Talk:Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii

message: "During this song's performance, Mason loses a drumstick and keeps playing with one hand whilst retrieving another, without missing a beat." 
I don't really see the point of this sentence. All drummers lose sticks, that's why they always have a pot of them nearby. -- Unsigned statement made by 82.70.200.181, 17:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: > He does miss a beat too. About three of them. -- Unsigned statement made by Paradoxtwin, 00:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just fixing some layout things...--67.11.33.166 (talk) 23:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He didn't "retrieve another" ... he could only "retrieve" the one he lost.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 06:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course he could retrieve another, you dont think he would have many spare sets of sticks right next to him? If you are comparing word usage of 'retrieve' versus 'pick up another', that is just a silly matter and not worth a debate.
Don't forget, the second half of Echoes. Nick actually breaks a stick and, really, without missing a beat, he tosses over his left shoulder, pulls another out and keeps going. Its near the end of the song, on the original content at least. The Director's cut with the fake wide screen cuts it out and uses parts from the first part of Echoes to fill it. But as the DVD has the original, it can be seen by all.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.120.72.41 (talk) 21:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nick's Missing drum stick 

message: Quote: "... or pretended to record their album ..."
1. Pretend? This isn't verifiable, is it?
2. The film doesn't show the recording of the whole album, but the recording of some tracks only. So the above quote ("record their album") concludes from a wrong premise.
3. It's not unusual in the production process that tracks are being re-recorded during the works on the final mix-down. The fact that they were mixing at the time doesn't exclude that they were re-recording some guitar licks.
4. Gilmour is obviously nervous while he's recording that solo guitar bits. He's even wiping off the sweat from his hand on his trousers. He had to be a good actor in order to show this stressed feeling so authentically.
-- I'm new to Wikipedia, I don't want to edit right now, but I would replace those sentences by these ones:
"These sessions were filmed in January of 1973, the band had already started mixing the album at the time."
"A second version had additional footage of the band as they recorded some tracks for their album ..."
Cheers  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suaheli (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's the way it's been on every single Pink Floyd album I've played on.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 06:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The guitar licks Gilmour is seen recording can actually be heard on the rough mix of Brain Damage, recently released as part of the Immersion re-release of DSoTM. This leads me to believe that at least this bit of footage is genuine.Chebghobbi (talk) 17:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "pretend"? 

message: Just to clarify the recent mild dispute about this, Adrian Maben directly said Nobs was an Afghan Hound in the DVD interview. Per WP policy, we use what the source tells us. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  20:16, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the dog is not an Afgan Hound. Going with what source tells you is a fine policy except in this case  what a source tells you  is not true and it can be disproven by watching the movie.  So unless it is an attributed text I cannot see how saying that it is an Afgan serves accuracy and truth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myszan76 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed it to "dog", which I think we can all agree is correct and avoids any edit wars. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog breed 

message: Can  explain why Nick Mason's autobiography is not a "good, reliable source"? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:47, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: I added this article to the West German films category, only to have my edit reversed by User:Ritchie333, who felt this was misleading as it was not filmed in Germany or with German personnel, etc.  While I can see where he's coming from, my argument is that film nationality is normally categorised by which countries financed the production. The article infobox already states Live at Pompeii was a French / Belgian / West German co-production, with a source from the BFI cited (this is also backed up by IMDb, although I'm aware that in itself isn't a reliable source). We already categorise the film under the French and Belgian categories, wouldn't it be consistent to include the third country? Jellyman (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter where the film crew is or where the director is from, or even the cast. Production countries are determined by where the production company is based. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:59, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You can put Outer Mongolia in the infobox if you like. I don't care. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:47, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude. You don't have to be rude. I'm trying to make an article better and insulting me on a talk page is not really putting good faith that you want to discuss things and solve problems. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:23, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality of film 

message: Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden of demonstrating verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." If you want your information included, I am giving the editors time to improve an article. So far, any editing I've made to make it follow the context of the infobox standard (hey, it's also an infobox that contains information not mentioned in the prose, which is not supposed to be done either) and I've tagged several items that require sources. All have been removed saying "oh its a guideline" or "oh well submit it for a GA Re-review" then. I'll give a day to at least be responded to on a talk page before reverting these edits. If there is no response or any attempt in clearing up the uncited information, I will be submitting the article for a ga re-review. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got all the books sitting at home, plus the DVD and the original video. I just need to be physically near the sources to do it. Chill out. Also, sources are only required for information challenged or likely to be challenged - nobody's challenged that Roger Waters plays bass guitar in the film or that the band plays "Echoes" in two parts. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:45, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I would question it. Its not an obvious thing for people totally unfamiliar with the group. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: When you challenge something, it's usually because you think the viewpoint or facts thus presented differ from your own. For example, "Jeremy Corbyn was the most popular candidate in the 2017 election" can be challenged, as this is opinion that not everyone shares. But nobody thinks "Echoes" on Pompeii is split into 3, 4, 8, 42 etc. parts. I think  said it best here - "" And sure enough, if you want to know how many parts "Echoes" is split into, or who plays bass guitar, you watch the movie. It's as simple as that. Now, unlike 5 years ago when I improved this to GA, I normally cite everything for a quiet life, but I do think that that sometimes conflicts with plain old common sense. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:59, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Unchallenged facts, such as Roger Waters being the 'creative genius'  ;)   — O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 17:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but he did describe Trump as a "nincompoop", while David Gilmour .... didn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

text: Yeah but see listening to someone playing guitar, you can't really tell who it is. Or you could stream the album online and wouldn't be aware for it. Its not so much that it is original research, but its assuming things which have potential to not be truth. Just like when we cite sections of wikipedia for album credits, we still have to state that its from the liner notes of an album. Because hey, your copy of an album may say something different than mine. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: So, let me get this straight, you think Roger Waters didn't play bass on Live at Pompeii. You'll be telling me next that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and the rest of the Beatles secretly replaced him and left clues on the rest of their recorded output. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:19, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not personally doubt that he played bass, and I'm not part of the tin foil hat crowd, so I'm not going to bother answering the other. But these things happen all the time regarding music. For example, two members of the Sex Pistols have stepped forward to say that Sid Vicious had only played bass on a song or two from Nevermind the Bollocks, but the album credits him as playing bass throughout. You do not have to insult me, I am just stating that not just the average, but most people will not know who is playing in an instrument in the band from just listening to the music. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: How ridiculous. You'll be telling us next that John Lydon had a hamster named Sid: . Martinevans123 (talk) 13:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a special kind of hamster... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:08, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: What a relief. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

text: Right so if anyone wants to talk to my seriously, be my guest. If your more keen on making jokes to amuse only yourselves, go right ahead as I'll be busy adding that you banner tags of unsourced sections. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll have a hard time, given there aren't any unsourced sections as I went through and retrospectively sourced everything. This is the problem - you have whined about a lack of sourcing but not lifted a finger to help (and no, minor reverts on the infobox do not count). I have little time for moaners who don't bother to fix articles when other people do. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

text: Personally, Andrzejbanas, I had not the slightest intention of excluding you through humour or making you the butt of any jokes. I think your Bollocks mention was anything but, and a very useful example. I hope you will contribute to the article if you can. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: "I have little time for moaners who don't bother to fix articles when other people do.", which is pretty funny as I've contributed to over 20 good articles. I do also do not have the material that you own to fix it. Besides, per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden of demonstrating verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". I found a problem I could not fix or did not feel qualified to fix, but thats like saying people who phone plumbers are strictly lazy and should just let a leaky pipe sit. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to make a Brexit joke about plumbers in Pompeii, but you talked me out of it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of citation tags

message: The article says "Subsequently, Maben was invited with a small crew using a single 35 mm camera to Abbey Road Studios to film supposed [emphasis added] recording sessions of The Dark Side of the Moon, as well as interviews conducted off-camera by Maben, and footage of the band eating and talking at the studio cafeteria."
The footage isn't actually of them in the studio for recording sessions of "Dark Side of the Moon"?  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 06:20, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  supposed? 

message: In his speech thanking Pompeii for his honorary citizenship, Nick Mason thanks a “Mateo Aguto,” represented by his children, for helping set up the original show. Has anyone come across a source for his role? https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvFOPrPIGIp/?igshid=Y2I2MzMwZWM3ZA==
Ulmanor (talk) 14:24, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mateo Aguto?