Talk:Stagg Field

message: The fictional remnant tunnels of Stagg Field (somehow called "Chicago Stadium" in the script) were the location of the January 17, 1975 "Primal Scream" episode of Kolchak: The Night Stalker.  The script also claimed that the nuclear pile was tested in the tunnels, rather than in the racquet court (but as many sources incorrectly reference it as taking place in a squash court, who came blame them?)  — Eoghanacht talk 13:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Worthless trivia

message: Looked like unsourced copyvio, info is probably useful for this article, I redirect Chicago pile - 1 here and pasted the discussion from its talk page below the text.
From Chicago pile - 1:
As the Manhattan project progressed, Fermi and his crew worked on what was to be known as the very first nuclear chain reaction. The reactor was to be called CP-1 or Chicago Pile - 1. When this reactor was completed, it would be a feat of engineering because all the materials had not been made to the level needed for the pile. The pure graphite needed had never been manufactured to that level or purity. The uranium also posed a difficult challenge, because it needed to be purified; Uranium 235 needed to be separated from Uranium 238. Then the oxides of the Uranium 235 needed to be separated out because it does not split as well.
As the building materials for the pile came to Chicago, the site for the pile needed to be found and set up. The best place to put this giant reactor was in a squash court. It was prepared, and the building began. Four hundred tons of graphite were ordered to surround the large ball of uranium containing almost 22,000 pseudo spheres. At the top of the Uranium ball was placed the uranium oxide, because it did not react as readily as the plain uranium. At the center of this sphere was a firing device which shot neutrons into the uranium and would begin fission.
As Fermi supervised the building of the pile, fall turned into winter. The work room across from the squash court froze, but the construction did not. Finally, in November 1942, the project was finished. The day before the real run of the pile was to happen, a test was executed. Before this experiment was tested, all the scientists assumed their position set by Fermi. Many of them sat near him on the upper deck of the squash court. A few were under the pile and were going to pull out the control rods by hand. And three were going to stand on an elevator on the opposite side of the reactor. If the pile burst into a nuclear fire, they would dump bottles of cadmium sulfate to put it out.
They all took their places and the test began; they removed all but one rod from the pile and measured the results. These results would be used to compare the results that they would have the next day. As their Geiger counters clicked faster and faster, they watched the meters monitoring the level of neutrons. Finally Fermi stopped the test; he had be there early that morning also.
December 2, 1942, the day the world moved into the age of the atom, started just like a normal day. About 9 o’clock the test began.
“When everything was ready, Fermi had the [control] rods withdrawn one by one and he was sitting there looking at the counter. As the counter started to go up and up, finally when all the rods were withdrawn, we could hear the counter rrrrrRRR! and off the scale. And Fermi said, ‘That’s enough. Put the rods back, and let’s go to lunch.’”-Bernard Feld, physicist.
Fermi had succeeded in the first goal of the Manhattan project, verification that Uranium was capable of a self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 15:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From Chicago pile - 1

message: === Quotation citation? ===
From discussion page at Chicago pile - 1
If the block quote portion near the bottom of this article is an actual quote from another source, it needs to be cited. 216.204.183.50 21:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I think a lot of this can be merged into Stagg Field, and if the nuclear part gets too long there it could become its own article under the title that the National Historic Landmarks Program uses, Site of first self-sustaining nuclear reaction. I can do it if folks would like, I just cleaned up Stagg Field and think it would be a great place for this stuff and the stuff from the other article. I am copying this to the other talk page as well.A mcmurray 04:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds great. I only came across this because I just read a book on Hiroshima, but it sounds like you know more about it. I really think this text was just taken from somewhere else. There might be a little bit to add to Chicago Pile-1, but otherwise I think it should just be made into a redirect... Dj stone 15:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it looks like an uncited copyright violation, well I will merge the articles and redirect these pages to Stagg Field and take the text here and just drop it on the talk page that way whoever added can come back and cite it if they would like to readd it because it seems useful, its just uncited, which wouldn't pass the verifiabilty test as is.A mcmurray 15:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From the Talk Page at Chicago pile - 1

message: From discussion page at Chicago pile - 1
If the block quote portion near the bottom of this article is an actual quote from another source, it needs to be cited. 216.204.183.50 21:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I think a lot of this can be merged into Stagg Field, and if the nuclear part gets too long there it could become its own article under the title that the National Historic Landmarks Program uses, Site of first self-sustaining nuclear reaction. I can do it if folks would like, I just cleaned up Stagg Field and think it would be a great place for this stuff and the stuff from the other article. I am copying this to the other talk page as well.A mcmurray 04:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds great. I only came across this because I just read a book on Hiroshima, but it sounds like you know more about it. I really think this text was just taken from somewhere else. There might be a little bit to add to Chicago Pile-1, but otherwise I think it should just be made into a redirect... Dj stone 15:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it looks like an uncited copyright violation, well I will merge the articles and redirect these pages to Stagg Field and take the text here and just drop it on the talk page that way whoever added can come back and cite it if they would like to readd it because it seems useful, its just uncited, which wouldn't pass the verifiabilty test as is.A mcmurray 15:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation citation? 

message: ===bucket o' water===
I heard that the fail-safe in case the reaction went out of control was a bucket of water.  I want to include this in the article, but because it seems very unlikely, I wanted to put it in the discussion first.  If anyone can confirm or deny this, let me know.
Thanks.
=== NO TWAS NOT A BUCKET O WATER ===
It was a cadmium salt solution because cadmium absorbs neutrons or somethin like that but i KNOW it was cadmium salt solution.
===Merger===
::Well I think a lot of this can be merged into Stagg Field, and if the nuclear part gets too long there it could become its own article under the title that the National Historic Landmarks Program uses, Site of first self-sustaining nuclear reaction. I can do it if folks would like, I just cleaned up Stagg Field and think it would be a great place for this stuff and the stuff from the other article. I am copying this to the other talk page as well.A mcmurray 04:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From the Talk page at Chicago Pile-1

message: ::Well I think a lot of this can be merged into Stagg Field, and if the nuclear part gets too long there it could become its own article under the title that the National Historic Landmarks Program uses, Site of first self-sustaining nuclear reaction. I can do it if folks would like, I just cleaned up Stagg Field and think it would be a great place for this stuff and the stuff from the other article. I am copying this to the other talk page as well.A mcmurray 04:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: That Marshall Field donated the land for the field and it was named for him can be verified in Chicago's football media guide (pg. 50).  It can be found on-line here:
http://athletics.uchicago.edu/football/fb-program-2006.pdf —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.32.89.32 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you ever see this, thanks. I added the citation a week or two ago, just forgot to mention it here. IvoShandor 13:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports venue 

message: I have proposed that the section entitled Chicago Pile-1 be split into its own article.  This is the world's first nuclear reactor, and it deserves its own article.  I would also like to see similar freestanding articles for Chicago Pile-2 and Chicago Pile-3. Squideshi 00:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh my gosh, no kidding!  This is ABSURD the way it is set up.  I am doing some editing of another article and was planning on creating a link to Pile 1, and it comes to this?  Absolutely, yes, split of Chicago Pile-1 NOW. Unschool 03:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Split of Chicago Pile-1 

message: There are two distinct articles here - the old Stagg Field/Marshall Field (used by a Big 10 football team, the site of nuclear testing, and torn down in the 50s/60s) and the new Stagg Field (tiny complex built relatively recently).  There should be two articles.  --B (talk) 12:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: What issue does this fix? WP:SPLIT is used for articles that are too long and none of this article is.  Stagg Field is one name used for successive facilities that are institutionally, historically and even physically connected with the sole remaining part of the stadium at the field. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 12:44, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Split