Talk:Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy)

message: A significant number of the biographical articles of past Admirals of the Fleet have styled the named officer as 'Admiral of the Fleet Sir Joe Bloggs' - this is not appropriate! Admiral of the Fleet is a rank, not a title. Further, to style someone as such is contradictory to the Wikipedia Manual of Style - no other articles fail to conform to such a vast extent! AJMW 18:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true at all. Military ranks do not contravene the MOS, as you will see if you read it - only academic titles and honorifics are mentioned and military ranks are neither. In fact, many military biographical articles use the ranks. -- Necrothesp 21:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a title

message: The Article on Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald describes him as 'Great Admiral of the Fleet', a link that refers to this article- yet Cochrane is not mentioned by name or by title. Is the article on him inaccurate or incorrect or perhaps is the 'Great Admiral of the Fleet' a courtesy title? Proberton (talk) 02:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question 

message: The sleeve rank insignia depicted has inaccurate dimensions, and the shoulder-board rank insignia is extremely inaccurate.
An officer of the rank of Admiral of the Fleet may be described as "great", but there is no such thing as the title "Great Admiral of the Fleet".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.216.163 (talk) 11:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insignia / Cochrane 

message: The George V article states he was named Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy) in 1910, but he does not appear here.  Which is correct?  Ecphora (talk) 12:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  George V? 

message: Why don't the opening paragraphs of articles begin by describing or defining whatever it is Now or when last sighted? History can follow at the end? I hope I have not given offence by amending this to suit my own idea and I have put this message here in case a discussion should take place.
Why is Navy or Air Force classed by Wikipedia as military when my dictionary says they, military, are soldiers? I refer specifically to "Admiral of the Fleet is also used as a title in some of the world's militaries" but it holds true throughout Wikipedia. I'm beginning to feel militant about this. Hmmm, fleets of Wild Geese?
I can see this particular rank style or title (you choose) can reasonably be regarded as 'honorary' but I bet in this case the honorarium is substantial whereas in most cases an honorary post is described that way to indicate the poor holder of the post is unrewarded and must regard it as an honour to have been picked on. This follows through to succession boxes where "Honorary Titles" (some include holders of this particular Admiral of the Fleet post) include people posted to positions with real responsibility (I mean real liability for any mistakes in their duties under law) and many readers would assume that the rank/title was another bit of curiously antique hot air like 'Mother of the Nation' (joke) or whatever. Eddaido (talk) 00:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honoraria 

message: We've been over this a million times.  Job titles are not proper nouns.  See WP:JOBTITLES.
I'm going to ask for a non-controversial move request to be performed to put this right.
Shem (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a proper noun 

message: (transferred from my pesonal page)
I have reverted your attempt to move Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy).  If you look at Talk:Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy) you will see that there was a move request a year ago and that there was no consensus for a move.  If you want to move it, try starting a new move request. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:45, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, David, not enough time now, but I think, as it is inserted in the rank name, it would not be interpreted aa a proper noun, as it is the case in field marshal, fleet admiral in the US, amiral de la flotte in France, and son on. There would have been another way to attach the rank to the level of the Navy : to call it Admiral of the Navy, as it is the case in the US, or here Admiral of the Royal Navy for disambiguation. --Gkml (talk) 10:20, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move request of this day (18 February 2016) to Admiral of the fleet (Royal Navy) 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: Insignia should be updated to replace Queen Elisabeth's royal cypher with that of King Charles. 2A01:CB04:7D8:3000:4520:8174:2882:26CE (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated insignia