Talk:Dino Wells

message: * http://itsmyurls.com/whenthebellrings
* http://geekgirlworld.com/content.php?99-Interview-Dino-Wells-of-When-the-Bell-Rings
:@Mark Miller: In addition to the archived link added below, I also found the following links:
:*official website for the movie "When the Bell Rings";
:*this mention of the "When the Bell Rings" selection to the 2014 New Orleans Film Festival; and 
:*this indiewire.com article which also mentions the film, Wells' association with it and the film festival. 
: Not sure if any of them are usable, but please use them if you can. - Marchjuly (talk) 06:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: --Mark Miller (talk) 06:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links for sources 

message: * http://www.norwalkreflector.com/content/mville-grad-films-retired-boxers-comeback (appears to be gone now. Check way back machine when time permits)
:@Mark Miller: I tried to find an archived link using Wayback, but could not. Maybe someone else will have better luck. Even dead links typically still have some value, so often its better to leave them in the article and just add a  to them. I know that cited sources were just bare urls, but removing them all makes it seem at first glance as if the article had no sources at all. Would adding  and "dead link" templates as needed, instead of removing everything, be the wrong thing to do here? - Marchjuly (talk) 04:47, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not just removing bare urls. I stubbed the article to start over. I had no intention of removing the stuff and leaving the article without references. That would be so wrong.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:51, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was writing the above while you were re-adding the links so I didn't pick up on that right away. Anyway, I was just trying to point out that even a dead link has value. Sorry, if it sounded like I was accusing you of doing something wrong. Not my intent at all. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I did a search on the "norwalkreflector" site and believe I found a link for the above dead url: Local grad films retired boxer's comeback. Title is slightly different, but it seems to about the same Dino Wells. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead or missing pages

message: This is not a comment on the reliability of sources cited in this article, but rather only regarding the way they have been added.bare urls are better than nothing at all, but they are not very desirable because of link rot. The more information provided about a particular source per WP:CITEHOW, the better. WP:CITEVAR says that the citation style chosen by the first major contributor to an article should be deferred to unless there is a consensus for changing that style. Leaving the bare urls as is not really a good idea, so they should be fixed. There are a few ways this could be done. I suggest using citation templates, but there are other ways as well. Please discuss. - Marchjuly (talk) 04:29, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this subject to be notable enough for an article. However...after this length of time we should really try to see if reliable sources are available, and they are. I don't believe this article is in danger of deletion. I don't work that way anyway.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:53, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for cleaning up the bare urls. I hope it didn't seem as if I was suggesting that the article be deleted. I was just commenting on the bare urls. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:07, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bare urls 

message: It is possible....that the subject may not yet be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. I think it best that we attempt to address the notability issue by adding sources that are stronger with much more than a passing mention. Articles in the news, about the actor/boxer that are more detailed would be helpful as well as book/magazine/journal sources with more than a passing mention or listing.--Mark Miller (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability