Talk:John Gill (climber)

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message: Gill was most notable for his influence in rock climbing, but the article devotes a lot of space to his academic career and mathematics research. Are there any secondary sources showing that Gill's mathematics research was influential or otherwise notable? Similarly for the Gymnastics and strength exercises section.
Also, the section Magazine articles & interiviews is quite messy — should that be cleaned up in a bulleted list, or removed entirely? Stonkaments (talk) 20:26, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you re what he is notable for. I think the "Early life and professional career" section is at an appropriate level of detail regarding his mathematical work, and important for understanding his life story, but the "Mathematical research" section is overdetailed, overly technical for much of the likely audience (climbers who might want to know some background about what Gill did professionally), and entirely primary-sourced. The primary sourcing can be addressed (most of these papers are likely to have independently-written and published reviews in MathSciNet and zbMATH) but instead I think maybe removing the whole research section would be an improvement. Additionally, the first paragraph of the "early life" section needs better sourcing. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue weight?