Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates/Archive 6

message: Egil had carefully arranged that  would be the only place where the URL of his Mapsources script would be held. Netoholic started to copy this URL into other templates to reduce the number of levels of nesting. Would a few people please visit Template talk:coor#Discussion and confirm that I was right to tell him to stop it. -- RHaworth 16:56, 2005 July 12 (UTC)
===re: Tool for the determination of coordinates and markup-building===
There is a version for the english and  german Wikipedia available.
:Nice page... Can we somehow get a "coor dm" button here?  (1 minute of latitude is always exactly one Nautical Mile, a useful unit of measure,   (also: 0°1.0000'S = 1.0000NM = 2 x 1013 yd = 2 x 0.926 km) )
:: I added support for "coor dm" and "coor dms". HeinzJ 11:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I get a message "Click into the map above to get the coordinates.", but there is no map.--Patrick 14:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  if you did download the page to your computer, you should read the text of the htm-file. HeinzJ 06:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlinking coor 

message: There is a version for the english and  german Wikipedia available.
:Nice page... Can we somehow get a "coor dm" button here?  (1 minute of latitude is always exactly one Nautical Mile, a useful unit of measure,   (also: 0°1.0000'S = 1.0000NM = 2 x 1013 yd = 2 x 0.926 km) )
:: I added support for "coor dm" and "coor dms". HeinzJ 11:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I get a message "Click into the map above to get the coordinates.", but there is no map.--Patrick 14:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  if you did download the page to your computer, you should read the text of the htm-file. HeinzJ 06:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: re: Tool for the determination of coordinates and markup-building

message: Which geographical coordinate can be chosen when there are different ones? For example, for Drygalski Island, there are several different geographical coordinates (see Talk:Drygalski Island and Talk:Geographic coordinates (obtaining)). Are there guidelines or hints which one to choose? Which geographical coordinate is the most correct one? -- Citylover 12:34, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not very different, it is just that there is one that is represented as decimal degrees, one as degrees and minutes. For an island with a certain size, as long as they point to a location reasonably in the middle of the island, there is really no preference for one over the other. Personally I may prefer the degree and minutes, but probably we should have sort of Wiki-decision on which one to use. The only fixed limitation is a referrence to WGS84, but for a reasonably large island it would not make much difference any way. -- Egil 16:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which geographical coordinate can be chosen when there are different ones? 

message: Hallo,
I am a Japanese user. I'm very interested in this project.
We have 2 reference frames in Japan. One is international one, Japanese Geodetic Datum2000, almost equal to ITRF and WGS84. Onother one is Tokyo Datum (Tokyo 97), old one. The both differences of latitude and longitude are about 8-15 seconds. Because some map services for Japan including Google map use Tokyo Datum, I'd like to get Tokyo Datum from the project. Could you arrange the project?
The data to convert are:
*http://vldb.gsi.go.jp/pub/trns96/params/xyz2xyz.pick.par
*http://vldb.gsi.go.jp/sokuchi/coordinates/localtrans.html
--? 13:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese map services - Tokyo datum 

message: Has anyone noticed the rather nice placement of coordinates on the German Wiki, using the template de:Vorlage:Geokoordinate, for example on :de:Sony-Center. -- Solipsist 15:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very elegant solution, indeed. I have noticed that perhaps having coordinates as part of running text is not always appropriate — this concept really solves all of that. -- Egil 05:43, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: German

message: At the Dutch WP, we have implemented the same options, although we allow them both, and have different templates. 2 templates are implemented in :nl:Ei_van_Kortrijk :
* You can see coords at the top, which should be implemented as much as possible when the coords are relevant for the entire article, since they are in a unobtrusive location. (implementation is not optimal yet however, coords are specified twice)
* In the external links section, there's another link... this template allow to link to kvaleberg sources as an external link : this may be usefull to draw a little more attention to the link if a map is relevant in the external links section, and you may want some text instead of purely the coords
* Of course, we also have the normal templates like the ones used here, these allow to actually adds the coords visually and link the them within the text or an infobox
--LimoWreck 09:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutch wikipedia 

message: This seems to have moved to implementation but I think I may have missed the discussion on whether it was a good idea. I would have voiced opposition at that time had I known. I think that for some articles, forcing the coords to display at the top of the article is not appropriate. Many articles I've had a hand in use  embedded inside . There doesn't seem to be a clear process for not usiing that nesting where it's not appropriate and I don't want to fork either one. So how should I proceed? Just lump it and consider it a done deal? ++Lar: t/c 14:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The existence of the coor title family of templates is well supported. Including it in other templates enjoys less support. I personally don't think the blanket usage that happens by including it in various infoboxes and geographical templates is advisable and I've voiced opposition to this. Ideally, to my mind, it would be an independent template that could be added to pages that obviously benefit from it, and could be left off pages that really don't need it. The template family needs more exposure to determine the opinion of the wider community, and unfortunately this Project page is very sleepy. — Saxifrage ✎ 20:21, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Consensus