Talk:Fedora Core

message: Seeing as the name of the next release will be Fedora 7, what is in the future for the name of this article?
There are several possibilities:
::Keep article Fedora Core and include Fedora 7 and subsequent on it.
::Rename article to Fedora (or similar), including Fedora Core 1-6 and Fedora 7.
::Redirect Fedora Core to new article.
::Have both Fedora Core and Fedora articles, and link between them.
::Other options? Community opinions and admin advice?
Remember to keep disambiguation of Fedora in mind... Freedomlinux 21:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If we're going to have information about each release, we should probably flesh that out a bit more before including it in the page.  Gskuse 19:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Have a look at this - looks like it shipped with 3.1.4. RichF 18:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fedora 7 and Article Name 

message: Most other Linux distributions have a criticism in their wiki entry. Could someone add a similar section this article, outlining the perceived pros and cons of Fedora Core?
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I couldn't agree more.  Also, there's no mention at all here of Fedora's real purpose:  it  is the test bed for the next generation Red Hat Enterprise Linux.  This is acknowledged everywhere except in this slightly banal wiki entry.  RHEL4, for example, is basically a mature, bug-fixed FC3. There's nothing wrong with this idea of course, but people should be clear about what they are getting. 
Whatever Fedora fans might say, new releases of FC are anything but "stable" in point of fact: the first release of FC4 for example,  when it first came out, was a complete mess.  Xorg-x11 (and other things) were hopelessly broken, to the point that it was readily apparent that much would simply not work without a full yum update (too bad if you have a 56K connection, or no connection). A disaster.  Never install (as I did) an early cycle Fedora release.  Wait, say, at least a few months until it matures and they do some bug fixing.  This isn't rock-solid Debian or Slackware: this is an experimental distribution which aims to test out - on the sometimes unsuspecting public - new features and software before considering these for inclusion in RHEL.   Users should understand that frequent yum updates are a necessity with new fedora releases: FC is on a very short development cycle. Fedora veterans are well aware of this and are prepared to deal with it, but they are not the average new linux user.  In many respects the Fedora " philosophy", such as it is, is the direct opposite of that of Slackware or Debian Stable, which aim at a slow, careful development cycle.
Critics also say that Fedora's choice of latest-version packages and libraries, which can bring unforeseen problems, is sometimes capricious and poorly thought through.  This is particularly true of the use of gcc4 in FC4, under which some older code is said to not compile. This leads some on the web to advise replacing gcc4 with an earlier version.
The instability, unreliability and rapid cycle of the free Fedora Core is obviously a major factor in the fast rise of free RHEL "clones" such as CentOS and White Box Linux. CentOS is byte-identical to RHEL.  These clones are built (quite legally) from RHEL rpms. If you need a reliable system, you need the stability of RHEL, but it's not free.  So install CentOS instead. 
Fedora is great for those who like to live "on the edge" of development and who need late version software more than they need reliability. This means it is simply not true that Fedora is suitable as a desktop system for the average Mr Newbie user or indeed anyone intolerant of Fedora bugs. These users, quite rightly, are best advised to install eg Ubuntu (or perhaps Debian Sarge using GenieOS's installer), Suse10 or RHEL/CentOS.  These provide a desktop-ready system with proven stability.
- WDef 27Jan06
:This applies to most free versions where a commercial offer of Linux is made though (the 'just a test bed' thing), so I don't see why the wiki should make a big deal out of it because RedHat was the exception before becoming like the others. 212.219.39.100 10:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My mom uses Fedora. a thing 06:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section 

message: Umm ... Fedora Core is the official name. Should we move this there? [ alerante 20:44, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Fedora Core 

message: I guess it deserves to be mentioned in this article that Wikipedia software runs on Fedora Core . Would someone suggest a wording? roozbeh 23:16, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
*"The servers that run Wikipedia are mostly powered by Fedora Core." Or something to that effect Jman 09:04, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia runs on Fedora Core 

message: FC4's default look is the Clearlooks theme. Can someone take a screenshot to reflect that? (I don't run FC anymore, unfortunately.) æle ✆ 00:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Took one from fedoraproject.org. æle ✆ 01:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need a better resolution screenshot. Can someone whoe uses Fedora Core 4 make a screenshot? Adomas 23:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New screenshot 

message: This article needs a section about the lead developers of Fedora and the general contribution and release process. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:58, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The people behind it 

message: What are the details between RedHat, Fedora and the Linux kernel. The numbered release refers to a
numbered kernel release, but there are patches and possibly bug fixes that cause deviation. I suppose 
Fedora and RedHat undertake to maintain the branched kernel release. How is FC/RHEL numbered between releases?
Ozga 19:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge, Fedora's Kernel is numbered as follows: 2.X.Y-Z.aaaa.fc6 where X,Y, and Z are kernel.org release numbers and aaaa is the Fedora build number.  When you download the kernel source rpm, it has the vanilla kernel and a series of patches included.  Hope this helps --D3matt 21:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Engineering and Maintenance 

message: The following are not facts but the view of an average user with less than 2 years of web
 development skills and less than 8 years of real computer using skills
===Pros===
* Easy to use
* Easy to install programs, upgrade, and delete
::Actually, that is one of the weaknesses of Fedora compared to other Linux distros:
#You need installation CDs to upgrade to a new version (e.g. FC4->FC5).
#Yum is veeeryyy sloooow.
::Just two pointers . - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no Linux distribution that works really well on G5 Macs yet, in my experience. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Why did you post this?--//Mac Lover TalkC 22:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fedora Core 5 Pros and Cons 

message: * Easy to use
* Easy to install programs, upgrade, and delete
::Actually, that is one of the weaknesses of Fedora compared to other Linux distros:
#You need installation CDs to upgrade to a new version (e.g. FC4->FC5).
#Yum is veeeryyy sloooow.
::Just two pointers . - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no Linux distribution that works really well on G5 Macs yet, in my experience. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pros

message: * Large OS
* Takes along time to download
* 5 CDs if it's not on a DVD (I used 15 cds to install my fedora because Windows kept screwing up the cd making)
* Takes a while to turn on Computer (but the programs load much faster)
* More file not visual orientated (also a Pro)
* You can really messing things up if your login to the powerful ROOT
* Old fashion people may not like it because it's not Windows (My parents don't like it because it's easier to use... I'm not joking. "Things like that are not that easy" ... "Maybe on Windows! Your going to have to do it your self it you want it on Windows because I give up." )
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A lot of what you've brought up here is actually characteristic of most Linux distributions compared to Windows, so it's not really suited to this article for that reason alone, but I'm glad that you're getting some fun out of Linux. The good news is, it's getting better all the time! - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why did you post this?--//Mac Lover TalkC 22:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cons

message: Given below:
:Fedora Core 4 (FC4, release name Stentz), the previous stable version, was released on June 13, 2005 for the i386, AMD64, and PowerPC architectures. It includes GNOME 2.10 and KDE 3.4, GCC 4.0, a gcj-compiled version of the Eclipse IDE, and version 2.6.11 of the Linux kernel.
Samsara (talk • contribs) 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-current release details removed 

message: Does anyone know of a source that backs up the inclusion of YOPER in the list of "Distributions based on Fedora Core"? I looked on the YOPER web site but couldn't see anything. RichF 21:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YOPER 

message: "If we want to install something from the installation media is not possible directly, but a workaround is possible defining in the yum configuration file a installation source that points to the local mounted cdrom (file:///media/cdrom)."
I attempted to correct the grammar of the preceding sentence when I realized I have no idea what the original author meant.  Anyone else want to give it a go?
-- Loudsox 00:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - changed a few other things as well. RichF 18:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd sentence 

message: At the moment the Fedora Core Screen Shot is under copyright and being used with fair use. I have found a free screen shot that looks almost the same but there's one catch, it's in french. Sould I upload it so we have a free screen shot or should I keep searching for an english free pic. If you want to see it go to . Lwarf 11:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You've touched upon an interesting intersection.  Actually, both screenshots are of copyrighted software and so both likely fall under fair use.  The French screenshot is probably more encumbered as it includes the Firefox and Thunderbird icons, which are controlled by the Mozilla Foundation.  I'd stick with the English version. Gskuse 14:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fedora Core 6 screen shot