Talk:List of flags of Ireland

message: If no one has any reasonable objection then I propose to add the Red flag to the section on Political flags. 
I will place the flag (countless samples to pick from Commons) and insert some text under the provided subheadings (Flag, Date, Use, Description) 
I believe it is a worthy addition here 
I would encourage any discussion of my proposal. Otherwise I will make the edit by (aptly) Friday the 1st of May 2020. 
Cograng (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Political flags

message: Regarding recent reverts, I am inclined to agree with Zoney on this one. In general, only three flags (national/presidential/naval) could be exclusively identified with the Republic of Ireland, remembering it is not a science. With the provincial flags (five) as the provinces have no legal standing in the Republic of Ireland then it would be misleading to claim they are exclusively Republic of Ireland, the provinces are historical only. The historical flags (five) are exclusively of Ireland. Perhaps the best way forward is to lable appropriately? Djegan 19:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ignoring your "no legal standing" argument, six of the flags are exclusive to the RoI and all the others are or have been used in the RoI in some way. There are NO flags exclusive to NI on the list, therefore RoI makes much more sense, especially with NI's flag contained in the "historical" section!! Jonto 20:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its important to remember that the provinces, and their flags, are pre-partition inventions and should be accepted on this basis. Djegan 21:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Any particular ones you suggest? some of them are already "British flags"? Djegan 18:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Jonto, the article already was in parts talking about the whole island (understandably so for the history section). Thus rather than pretend the article was about the Republic only (and have the awkward situation of the introduction referring to the Republic, but historical all-Ireland flags) it made more sense to add the missing contemporary flags used in Ireland. zoney  ♣ talk 12:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I propose this be...... well not exactly "split" per se, but that it be.... well I suppose partially copied into another article List of flags of the Republic of Ireland, or something similar. Or, the converse, i.e. this become the page for the Republic and the page for the island moves elsewhere. The reason is, numerous places in the list template are double-listed due to the fact that they are listed again under another entity (e.g Scotland and the UK are both listed). - RedHot 17:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not convinced as yet; what should we do with common flags such as provincial(which have no official status in either political entity, apart from the ad-hoc cultural element) or historic that cannot be assigned exclusively to the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland. Split the article just because we cannot decide if the opening should refer to "Ireland" or "Republic of Ireland"? Going forward clear and sound proposals are needed. Djegan 18:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

text: oppose, as stated above their is the issue with the common flags, also this article cover the various flags that have been used on the island since it's historym though their are still some that could yet to be put on. A split would just creat several small artcils from a small article. Tjeir are also aready seperate artciles for the tricolour that mention several of the other flags as well as an article on the NI flag, that mentions the same as well as proposals for the new flag. An addation of new articles under either republic of NI names would just add confusion. Anyway as situated this article works well in diplaying flags that are common to both the republic and NI as well as acting as a disam page for the other flags. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 05:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: What should the lead sentence say? From what I understood of the request above, the article was being reframed as flags used across the island, but the lead saying "This is a list of flags which have been, or are still today, to represent the island of Ireland" seems to contradict this. Also with the first flag in the list being the tricolour, I can imagine the usual suspects kicking up a fuss very soon. O Fenian (talk) 21:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: RE: the tricolour, that crossed my mind alright. I think the article will need a greater jig up meet NPOV. About the first sentence, I had meant a list of flags for the island of Ireland but I don't mind another slant being put on that. What did you have in mind/what did you understand? --RA (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried something similar to List of flags used in Northern Ireland. I realised the "used in Ireland" might not be best, but "used on the island of Ireland" was a bit longwinded, and the hatnote immediately above does qualify it already so it seemed a bit needless. I definitely think the "Island of Ireland" section needs reworking. Possibly include in that the Tricolour (as the Tricolour respresenting the Irish Republic) and the St. Patrick's saltire, and move the Flag of Ireland and Presidential standard into a Republic of Ireland section? O Fenian (talk) 21:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. All things that were in the back of my mind but not sure how best to do it. Go ahead and do it. --RA (talk) 21:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It may need some more fiddling about with, but I have changed it. The duplication in the descriptions probably could be removed, at a minimum. I am possibly unhappy about the slight discrepancy between having no finish date for the Saltire and including a finish date for the Tricolour, but it is difficult to deal with that flag since it is in two sections. O Fenian (talk) 21:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: I don't see why foreign military regiment flags have been included in this article. They are flags of foreign armies not flags of Ireland and they didn't represent the island of Ireland but just the origin of the soldiers IMO. There isn't an issue with the British army ones as those regiments where based in Ireland and aren't foreign - if it was a Canadian based Irish regiment of the British army i would say why include it?
Maybe have them in a different military sub-section, say: In Foreign Military. Or maybe i'm just being silly lol :-P  Mabuska (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So no disagreement with deleting this flags that don't represent the actual island of Ireland then? Mabuska (talk) 21:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think all the historical military flags should be removed. ~Asarlaí 13:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion is now part of BW's below seeing as it is a major part of it. Mabuska (talk) 14:34, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military flags - some are clearly not flags of Ireland 

message: This article seems to be missing other flags used to represent the island of Ireland, such as the Union flag (1801-1922) (), the flag of the Commonwealth (c.1649) (), the Green Ensign ) etc. Should these not be included in the article seeing as how we are already using unofficial flags (the 4 provinces flag) and flags of dubious status, though indeed common, such as the St. Patrick's Saltire, and historical flags such as the Standard of the Kingdom of Ireland? Mac Tíre Cowag 09:52, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: These flags absolutely should be added. The  union jack is an uncomfortable truth for some in Ireland, but it is important to recognise that it was used across Ireland for a long time, and it remains one of the official flags flown by the Northern Ireland executive to this day. I also suggest the  EU flag, as it is used on official buildings on both sides of the border. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which flags are included (they certainly aren't flags which exclusively represent Ireland as a whole), and so the list should be made complete and of course without bias. BananaBork (talk) 16:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: what about the county flags with and without the gaa symbols Finnfrog99 (talk) 22:14, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other flags? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: To further explain this change, and per WP:RSP#Flags of the World, the Flags of the World website/mailing list (FOTW) is not a reliable source. And has been accepted as unreliable since 2011. This also applies to FOTW's mirrors (like crwflags.com, the website of a retail flag shop in Maryland, which hosts archived sections of the FOTW Yahoo Group mailing list). 
As discussed at Talk:Flags of the World (website)#Listed as generally unreliable, just because an editor might "find" a flag on Commons, claiming to be an official or accepted "present" flag of Bray or Castlebar or whatever, it doesn't mean that it is. Or should automatically be added to articles in Wikipedia. As if FOTW (or a related description on Commons) are automatically reliable.
In the case of Bray, even if we ignore WP:RS, WP:UGC and WP:RSP, and blindly accept the WP:OR findings of an FOTW mailing-list member (who undertook their own WP:OR research in 2005 and made a UGC post of the output to a Yahoo Group mailing list), and accept that a flag was adopted by Bray Town Council in 1956, that blind faith couldn't extend to acceptance of it being the "present" flag of Bray Town Council. As, after ignoring umpteen project policies and consensus that FOTW is an unreliable source, we'd also have to ignore the verifiable fact that Bray Town Council was abolished years ago.... Guliolopez (talk) 02:01, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  FOTW (and its mirrors) as unreliable source