Talk:Senyera

message: I've supressed a source clearly biased.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.125.97.102 (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GEA Gran Enciclopedia Aragonesa source

message: Today the island of Sicily and the city of Naples still have the colours gold and red in their flags and coat of arms and both were in the Crown of Aragon, should this be mentioned? Although its not strickly "bars"? - Gennarous (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Flags of Sicily and the city of Naples

message: I found another source on Google Books, but it will only let me see a tiny part of the page , appears to be almogavers attacking italians.  --Enric Naval (talk) 16:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I could see this book is written in french. Frenchs doesn't like Catalans; And the coat of arms you say it's from aragonese, it isn't true. La Senyera came from the coat of arms of the casal de Barcelona, not from the aragón.
And a source for James I carrying a pennon (in 1229 in Languedoc, if I'm reading it correctly) , but it only says that the arms of Aragon are on the shield, it doesn't mention what is on the pennon. It later mentions on page 273 that on the Peninsule, the "premières" (?) went to war under the pennon of the knight and under the banner of the baron. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I believe that another move will be more interesting instead. Let me explain it below. --MauritiusXXVII   (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 23:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  almogavers using pennon of aragon 

message: The content of the Senyera article is rather fiting in a "generalistic" article about the flags derived from the medieval arms of the Crown, while it lacks of the specific information about ratios, construction sheet and legislation of the present flag of Catalonia. It is a similar case to the Flag of Valencia, when I decided to create a separate article as "Flag of Valencia".
This article has many similarities (aka: edit wars problems) now, as the article Coat of arms of Catalonia had some time ago. The problem was that, deriving both the flags and the coats of arms of quite some territories (Aragon, Balears, Catalonia and Valencia) from the medieval Crown of Aragon, many users failed (me included) to reach an agreement in the content of the article. This was luckily fast solved by creating the article Coat of arms of the Crown of Aragon, which included all the info about the ancient coat of arms, hypothesis about the origin etc, etc.
This left the article Coat of arms of Catalonia free of any editing dispute.
So, I propose to make the Senyera article a specific article about the vexillological symbol of the arms of Aragon which could include in its content its origins and history followed by a disambiguation or links to multiple article about its heirs, the Aragonese, Balear, Catalan and Valencian flags.
I guess some Catalanists users will complain for not "reserving" the name Senyera to the Catalan flag article (as we all admit catalonia is the region whose flag is nowadays called this way), but I really believe it will improve the chances to make a good specific article about the flag of Catalonia including specific information about ratios, construction sheet and legislation of the present flag without having to be extremely cautious not to hurt the feelings of people from other regions which also claim the "Senyera" or "Señera" as theirs. --MauritiusXXVII   (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 00:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would be a good idea. But I am also aware of the endless debates and edit wars regarding the ratio of the Valencian Flag. I wish that the ratio issue could be settled before we drag it to another article.  --the Dúnadan 00:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm working on a settlement on the flag ratio issue. Let's leave this section to discuss only the article split thing, or it will become a mess. --Enric Naval (talk) 00:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I think it's a good idea. It's obvious that a Flag of Aragon article will have very different content from Flag of Valencia, Flag of Majorca and Flag of Catalonia, and that all of them will have a lot of duplicate content that should be merged into a single article on the common origins (this single article being the Senyera article). --Enric Naval (talk) 00:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: May show go on? --Maurice27 About Me, Talk, Vandalize. 18:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure.-- dúnadan : let's talk  20:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Senyera]] Vs. [[Flag of Catalonia]] 

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