Talk:Hurricane Fabian

message: No reference to Hurricane Emily (1987), previous holder of the title Bermuda's Worst Storm (hit during morning rush hour after the population was assured that it was going to miss).
Aftermath, particularly the future of the Causeway, is in desperate need of expansion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.68.108.171 (talk) 08:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Information, source, etc. on replacing the causeway is available —where it belongs— on the causeway's (rather meagre) article.23:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "This article is about Fabian..." and yet makes reference to two other hurricanes in the opening section.  Prior to Fabian, Emily was considered the worst storm that people had been through (1926 being a rather long time ago), for the reasons mentioned above.  SharkOil.bm:Historical Storms even mentions Emily as the storm "we all remember", while its wikipedia article claims that it was the "strongest hurricane to hit Bermuda since 1948."  Accurate?  You would know better than I, as apparently it was you who wrote it.23:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing

message: More impact. Jdorje 21:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a good site of some Bermuda information. Hurricanehink 00:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would a picture in the above site, any picture in this photo gallery, or any of these pictures be qualified as fair use? Hurricanehink 02:21, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am gonna add one thing to the Todo list-that Storm History is very small.HurricaneCraze32 00:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo

message: Wouldn't the deaths from the drowning boat be considered direct? NHC always has them be direct, unless some other circumstance caused the crash (for example, in the 2002 Henri report, one person drowned when his boat crashed, but intoxication was evident and the death was considered indirect). Hurricanehink 12:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, those deaths were direct.  I added a deaths table to clarify. — jdorje (talk) 18:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deaths

message: Personally, I couldn't care less if this article was written in American or Commonwealth English, so why has there been an edit war at all? If there had been another rv cycle I'd have protected the page to stop it getting any worse. I'd just like to comment: The anon is trying to do the right thing by trying to get a consensus here, remember everyone should agree for a true consensus - so one side would have to concede the point for it to exist ;) As this is a simple one-way-or-the-other decision a straw poll makes more sense than an RFC anyway. I've attempted to summarize the positions here:
#The majority of the article deals with events in Bermuda. Other regions are covered are covered by the article, with other Commonwealth English-speaking nations, American English (the US and Puerto Rico) and non-English speaking nations mentioned, though with much less significance for these regions. In the article, impact in Bermuda has 8 paragraphs of prose to cover something that killed 4 and caused $300 million. The impact in the US and Puerto Rico is 5 sentences, with one death and $30,000 damage mentioned.
#The anon says as the vast majority of the articles regional prose relates to Bermuda, Fabian is strongly related to Bermuda. Therefore the "if there is a strong tie to a specific region/dialect, use that dialect" clause of WP:ENGVAR (which is high importance) applies, and the spelling should be changed to Commonwealth English.
#The opposing position is that this article is not entirely about events in Bermuda. In particular, some US impact is detailed; the fact its much less than the impact in Bermuda is an irrelevancy. This means this means there is no local single dialect to use. Therefore we fall through to the "Stay with established spelling" part of ENGVAR which means maintaining the status quo (American English).
Is this an accurate summary of the dispute? If so, it gives a good framework for bringing in outside comment if it cannot be resolved here alone. Please comment beneath this if you feel I am misrepresenting it.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this work for everyone? If so this dispute is over :P--Nilfanion (talk) 16:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though the article still follows American spelling, I am satisfied.  My primary grievance was the use of American English when describing Bermudians.  Of course, what I am not satisfied with was the reprehensible behaviour of Chacor and Hurricanehink throughout all of this.  It may not have been so bad if they had actually provided some justification for Hurricanehink's (their?) viewpoint (or as Chacor ironically described it, "significant opposition" to mine (ours?))..or even tried to, instead of just ignoring the discussion. 17:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary

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message: there is no reason for these italics (WP:ITALICS, MOS:BADITALICS): might you fix that in the infobox template? I can't figure out how ...
* Highest winds	1-minute sustained:
SandyGeorgia (Talk)  00:23, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: - fixed! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk)  15:06, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, hink ... will continue reviewing later today if I catch up elsewhere ... Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk)  15:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

text: Hink, your article writing has advanced since these days :)  A prose review would be helpful, many of the links are dead, and we need full dates on Royal Gazette publications.  Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk)  17:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  checking back in almost a year later; are you able to finish up items I mentioned on 4 December 2020?  Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk)  09:30, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

text: Listing at WP:FARGIVEN due to lack of academic coverage. NoahTalk 21:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
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