Talk:The Imitation of Christ

message: Perhaps someone could add a list of translations and dates? Pied beauty 17:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When was the first English translation done and by whom? Pete unseth (talk) 03:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translators 

message: Seeing as how most resources (including the Library of Congress) tend to list the book as The Imitation of Christ (rather than just Imitation of Christ), are there any objections to me moving the page to The Imitation of Christ? Esrever 15:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done and done. Esrever 03:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  page move 

message: Excellent as these counsels are, they are set in the minor key and are especially adapted for souls burdened with care and sorrow and sitting in darkness. They present only one side of the Christian life, which can be supplemented by counsels for integrity, bravery, and constancy in the struggle for daily existence which encompasses the bulk of humanity.
What do such POV remarks have to do with WP and with such an article? I've deleted them. Lumendelumine 14:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV?

message: Nobody is sure about the author of this book. There are three possible authors: Tommaso da Kempis or Jean Gerson or Giovanni Gersen (citations in the italian wiki).--93.149.140.77 (talk) 14:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Author 

message: The article asserts that John Paul I is said to have died with a copy of this book.  I read that this is actually untrue; he died with work papers.  I suggest removing this.  Opinions?
J.J. Bustamante (talk) 03:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just did a books search, and this piece of information seems to be supported by RS. However the article needs cleanup and citations. --TheMandarin (talk) 08:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your google search does not support the story - I examined it, and the sources either agreed (1 source), or said it was a good untrue story (2 or 3), and the rest didn't mention it in the same sentence. I'll remove it as an urban legend. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 10:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: John Paul I

message: The article is somewhat usable and compact, but I find the following flaws:
:1. There are too few inline citations, so that statements such as 
::The Imitation of Christ is a writing of the mysticist German-Dutch school of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries
:and
::The Jesuits give it an official place among their "exercises"
:are hard to control, 
:2. and statements like
::is widely considered one of the greatest manuals of devotion in pre-reformation Catholic Christianity
:seems like an adherents boast talk, and I'm not one of those adherents, so I want a more balanced view in order to get a picture of the degree of acceptance in different parts of Christianity.
:3. statements like
::Its sentences are statements, not arguments, and are pitched in the highest key of Christian experience.
:are either similar boast talk or complete rubbish, as in my Swedish ears; I suspect this is blue-cloud-of-ecstacy talk that is factually rubbish, and only comprehensible as some kind of highest praise in some quite non-encyclopedic society.
I propose fixing these issues by adding citations to the more factual statements, and removing or factualizing the boasts. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 08:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cleaned up quite a few problems listed above and added citations...there are couple of minor ones, for which I have  and will eventually clean them up. Thanks. --TheMandarin (talk) 08:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Weak sourcing + POV + huh

message: Currently the article uses the non-free image :File:IChrist.jpg, however, since there are other free equivalents, this fails the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, which states — Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. I will remove this image and replace it with a public domain free alternative.  --TheMandarin (talk) 08:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-free image usage 

message: This seems a really short treatment of a widely read book. Much of the content seems telegraphic. The Devotio Moderna were not even mentioned, so I added that but there are many more missing items. But there are no huge factual errors that I can see at first glance, except many errors of omission. History2007 (talk) 02:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your efforts, pls add the missing pieces. --TheMandarin (talk) 09:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, but I need to be promised an image of a $100 bill if I am going to do it right... History2007 (talk) 09:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well , The actual promise is even greater : "I will give thee an eternal reward for short labour.."(Book 3, Chapter 35) --TheMandarin (talk) 10:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but I was asking for an initial deposit. History2007 (talk) 10:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Anyway, despite the lack of the deposit, to do it right, I had to write the page on imitation itself as a theological/Christological item so background could be provided. I was actually surprised there was not even a single sentence on the general theology of imitation, Francis, etc. within Wikipedia. Now, I will add a small section on that, and point to it to provide the background. Then the Book 4 item needs attention, given that it is just a single sentence. That cannot be right. I think each of the 4 books needs a separate subsection. Would you like to expand those, given that you know the book so well? I will appreciate your help. History2007 (talk) 20:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we need a subsection for each book; Will work on it in a sandbox and once it is in a decent shape, will add it here. Thanks. --TheMandarin (talk) 03:58, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great. My hope would be that a user who will not get to read the Imitation itself should be able to get the "basic message" from each of the 4 Books by reading 3 to 4 paragraphs about each Book, perhaps with a sample quote or two. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 05:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Somewhat telegraphic article

message: It's highly polemical to characterise Henry VIII's selective persecution of Catholics who denied his supremacy over the Church in England as a "pogrom". The last thing he wanted was mobs in the streets. "Persecution" will do.
JamesWim (talk) 17:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Henry VIII and Thomas More

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_literary_works_by_number_of_translations disagrees …  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.3.79 (talk) 14:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Apart from the Bible, no book has been translated into more languages than the Imitation of Christ."