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Talk:Bobby Wolff

message: I visited two websites that claim to reprint the BOLS Bridge Tips (1974 to 1994). Each collection includes one tip attributed to Wolff, which differ entirely.
* "Check Out the Distribution" (1974) at Bridge Ace
* "Your Tempo is Showing" (no date) at Harold Schogger
The latter includes no preface, as all do at the first site and several or most do at the second site. Usually the prefaces differ and sometimes 
The article titles or short versions of the tips commonly differ between these two sites; the prefaces commonly differ. Eg see DHTruscott 1; DHTruscott 2. (I guess there were two print editions, either two collections or a contemporary serial and one collection--if not more than two.) The two tips attributed by Wolff are entirely different, however.
--P64 (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  BOLS bridge tip
Talk:Dorothy Hayden Truscott

message: When and to whom were her previous marriages?
#Born: Dorothy Johnson on November 3, 1925
#Married: name? to whom? when? to when? This reliable reference [WBF biography by Alan Truscott -P64 20141102] says she was a mother in Mid-west at age 21. The main article says she briefly taught mathematics in Kalamazoo, MI.  The Philip Alder obit states that (presumably in early life) she moved to "Park Forest, Ill., and one afternoon a week took the train into Chicago" and "returned to New York City in 1956 and worked for three years as an actuary at New York Life Insurance".  Is the relocation an indicator of another life change - i.e. divorce? In 1957, she was known as Hayden
#Married: Dorothy Hayden: when? to when? Husband: John P. Hayden. The OEB1 (1964), states she was from Hastings-on-Hudson, Westchester County, NY
#Married: Dorothy Hayden Truscott 1972 till death on July 4, 2006. Husband Alan Truscott
The Philip Alder obit states: "She is survived by three daughters, Catherine Hayden Thurston of Cambridge, Mass., Margaret Cooke of Painted Post, N.Y., and Bobette Thorsen of Lititz, Pa., and 10 grandchildren. Her son William died in July 1951, and her son Brian died in January 1992"
Newwhist (talk) 14:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the research and report. I revised the article in another respect today, without reading this, but have no greater knowledge of further interpretation. --P64 (talk) 21:35, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriages and family
Talk:Jeff Rubens

message: The ACBL Hall of Fame citation (now one Ext link) should be used. 
bridgeFILES.net Jeff Rubens 1941– : Information is yet more informative, "Source: ACBL Dictionary". Does that mean some print edition of The Official Encyclopedia of Bridge? 
--P64 (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources
Talk:Jeff Meckstroth

message: Meckstroth is not identified by the Library of Congress (no LCCN), hence not at WorldCat (no auto-generated homepage, as we link in the footer of most English-language writer biographies). 
* Direct LC search (0)
* WorldCat search: 'meckstroth, jeff' (2)
Section Jeff Meckstroth#Publications (2) is now complete with respect to these catalogs.
--P64 (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity 
Talk:Oswald Jacoby

message: : posted also at Talk:James Jacoby -P64
Does anyone know a list of bridge columns with some bibliographic data? Even long-running bridge columns in US newspapers? 
Google: james jacoby bridge - images shows several that are informative. I don't see "Jacoby on Bridge" by father and son as a newspaper column name, rather "Win at Bridge". Also, one is "Bridge: ..." by Oswald Jacoby and Susan Sontag (who's she?). Two are "Bridge" and "Contract Bridge" by James Jacoby, which suggest that he continued after O's death and hint that he dropped their established brandname, if any.
--P64 (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Encyclopedia Judaica (reprint linked below) says, "He established a record on April 22, 1982, when his 10,000th article was printed." Uncertain whether that is 10,000 NEA daily columns. --P64 (talk) 20:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syndicated bridge column 

message: * "Oswald Jacoby dies; Won wide acclaim as expert on bridge". Alan Truscott. The New York Times. June 28, 1984.
* "Jacoby, Oswald". "[Ruth Beloff (2nd ed.)]". Jewish Virtual Library. The American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise. 2013. Reprinted from Encyclopedia Judaica, Gale, 2008. 
--P64 (talk) 20:08, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I have removed the IPA pronunciation given in the intro for the time being, as I suspect it's not supported in the given reference (Jacoby on Bridge) and that the Germanic pronunciation might have been the one Jacoby used. this discussion is by no means a valid source, but it looks like the people arguing for /dzə-'koʊ-bi/ have a little bit more going for them than those on the /'dʒæ-kə-bi/ side—i.e. at least the former cite some personal experience with the man or his son, whereas the latter have nothing. Also, people I've met who talk about bridge use the former pronunciation in discussing the Jacoby transfer (though I have no idea if that's universal or correct). Thoughts? /ninly(talk) 13:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation
Talk:Charles Goren

message: Yesterday I inserted this at the head of section Publications, today thought better of it: 
: Sometime during the 1930s, Goren wrote the foreword to a book by Olive Peterson, who had predated him on Milton Work's staff and had been one of his own playing partners: Common-sense Contract: Featuring the Goren System (Peterson, 193?), 80 pp., . 
Olive Avery Peterson was a Goren teammate, perhaps playing partner, into the 1940s. She assisted Goren at least re teaching operations for the rest of her life (1894 maybe to 1965).
 
Milton Work#Selected works is intended is chronological by year, then alphabetical by title, iirc. It's a long selection, intended to be complete for titles (not editions) of both books and pamphlets. From 1930 these terms appear in his titles: 'common sense system'; 'common sense contract bridge'; 'contract official system'; 'standardized official system'; 'Work–Peterson accurate valuation system'. 
--P64 (talk) 19:01, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Work, Peterson, the Goren System?
Talk:Ely Culbertson

message: Ely has been improved recently, but there's still a long way to go. Here are some of the topics that need to be added or expanded:
*1. The stories in his autobiography of his pre-bridge life.
*2. His revolutionary bidding ideas.
*3. His bridge books.
*4. Matches v. and Sims and Austria.
*5. The Bridge World and Kem cards.
*6. His divorce from Josephine
*7. His peace ideas.
*8. Assessment of his worth in these various fields.
*9. Photos, and more photos...
It's interesting, isn't it, that in all these years since the thirties no-one has come anywhere close to him as a publicist for the game. Anyway, there is no-one in bridge history who offers so much material for the budding biographer. Good sources are:
1. Ely's autobiography: The strange lives of one man.
2. John Clay: Culbertson: the man who made contract bridge.
3. David Daniels: The golden age of contract bridge.
Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just chanced on Time magazine's review of his autobiography, published back in 1940. It probably has some stuff that we could use. JH (talk page) 20:07, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way to go... 

message: I was trying to transfer a citation from the lede to its appropriate place in the main text, but got an alert that this was a featured article that should not be altered. For one thing, I have sometimes altered featured articles before (mindful that they merit special care). But in any case, I thought they were meant to carry a star at the top-right section, beside the title. There is no indication that this one is a featured article. Valetude (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Weird. As you can see from the banners at the top of this Talk page, it's only rated Start class by the Biography Wikiproject and C class by the Bridge Wikiproject, so is clearly not a featured article. JH (talk page) 17:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trying to transfer cite from lede
Talk:Benito Garozzo

message: Garozzo won relatively few European championships and relatively few Italian championships (we list 5 and 12 at Open Teams).
From 1961, his Bermuda Bowl debut, through 1977 the BB tournament comprised the defending champion team (not always identical in composition) as well as one representative from each of 3 to 5 zones (not always determined by a zonal tournament). There were 14 BB tournaments during those 17 years (4 Olympiads; both in 1976), of which Italy won 10 (the first seven, 1960s, plus three consecutive, 1973-75). So Italy was defending champion 11 times (eight plus 1974-76), of which Garozzo played 10 (all but the eighth, 1970).
There were three other BB tournaments with the defender arrangement, 1971, 1973, and 1977. North America was the defending champion zone with two teams in those three fields; the European teams were France, Italy, and Sweden respectively. ... 
: --France as winner of the 1970 European championship, Sweden as its 1977 winner, the Euro record suggests --P64 (talk) 19:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  European championships 

message: or Lea du Pont, etc.
* 
That record shows Dupont and Garozzo entered a quadrennial World Bridge Championships (World Pairs Olympiad) event as early as the 1978 Mixed Pairs [ages ~38, 51], as late as the 2006 Senior Pairs. She played on the Italy women team as early as the 1984 World Team Olympiad (5th place) and 1985 European championships (3rd). 
One friend of Garozzo recalls that "the dawn of their love" was in 1975 [ages ~35, 48], perhaps in association with the European championships. 
: The self-described "friend" Silvio Sbarigia played for Italy in the 1976 Team Olympiad. --P64 (talk) 19:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lea Dupont 
Talk:Pietro Forquet

message: Pietro  FORQUET – longish biography at Infobridge.IT Le Personalità del bridge (Italian with crude English-language version)notes
--P64 (talk) 23:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobridge.IT 

message: Forquet is now World Grand Master #7 semi-officially by placing points (PP) that do not decay over time. 
* AllTime Open Ranking at WBFMP
* Player History: Forquet at WBFMP
See Talk:Massimo D'Alelio #10 for some remarks (probably to be extended) on the historical award of WBF Masterpoints. 
--P64 (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Grand Master #7
Talk:Dennis Allen (criminal)

message: The article used to have the text:
:"Police officer Roger Rogerson received his first criminal conviction in 1985 for involvement in drug dealing when he was charged with consipiring with Allen to supply heroin."
I couldn't find a source so replaced the paragraph with something else. I saw a SMH article (23 April 1988, "Rogerson on Heroin Charge") that says he did the heroin deal with Allen in 1985, but he was served with a summons in 1988. --Commander Keane 10:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roger Rogerson 

message: The article states Allen is suspected of killing numerous people, sometimes based on rumors. Because this is not a BLP, I'll leave that in; however, until information from a reliable source identifies him as a serial killer, either by expert diagnosis or common belief in Australia, it is misleading to include him in that category. momoricks (make my day) 04:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Australian serial killers category 
Talk:Giorgio Belladonna

message: Previously we have cited the obituary by Alan Truscott in The New York Times, now a formal [ref name=truscott]. Searching the private subscription ProQuest Historical Newspapers i have identified several other obituaries broadly defined. Those two now used here as formal references are Truscott bridge columns that include some obituary material, one on Belladonna 1995-03-20 and one on 19790s teammate Vito Pittalà 1996-03-23.
Here are my other search hits for broad Belladonna obituaries, 1995 only. 
* 1995-05-14, The Montreal Gazette, p. B8 -- presumably by Eric Kokish 
* 1995-05-15, The Washington Post, p. D5
* 1995-05-16, The Daily Telegraph, p. 21
* 1995-05-29, The Independent, p. 12 -- by Alan Hiron
* 1995-06-08, The Guardian, p. 15 (and The Observer) -- by Enzo Bacarani (and Zia Mahmoud?)
* 1995-12-30, The Daily Telegraph, The Games Page -- by Tony Priday  
Some may be available to the public online.
The W Post is a death notice that names specific PoD "American Hospital in Rome" (lung cancer). The Guardian is not a bridge column and includes one bold heading or byline "Zia Mahmoud"--perhaps the article is a composite by Mahmoud in part (later i'll read closely for evidence). Via this library's limited ProQuest subscription I have no access to the other articles, only to the bibliog data provided here. 
The Montreal Gazette at Google newspapers is our source for AP coverage of the death of Sidney Silodor, .
--P64 (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obituaries, etc 

message: Victor Mollo, on page 19 of his 1968 book, The Bridge Immortals, states "Walter Avarelli, aided and abetted by his regular partner, Giorgio Belladonna, was the prime architect of the Roman Club..."  The current version of the Belladonna article gives that credit to Belladonna. Additional references are required to clarify the matter. Newwhist (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who was 'prime architect' of the Roman Club?
Talk:Roger Trézel

message: Alan Truscott wrote in his NYT bridge column 1986-11-25 that the great partnership was broken "recently when Roger Trézel died in France at the age of 68." It's a bridge column of obituary nature but no obituary. --P64 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I promoted that column to formal [ref name=truscott86]. We no longer call it an obituary and the title makes clear it's a bridge column of obituary nature. --P64 (talk) 21:13, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Death
Talk:Berry Westra

message: Westra is not identified by the Library of Congress (no LCCN), hence not at WorldCat (no auto-generated homepage, as we link in the footer of most English-language writer biographies). He is the author of many print and digital works but none in English, none translated. 
Direct search hits no LCCat records (which do not cover bridge thoroughly even for original US English-lang books) but many in WorldCat libraries. 
* Direct LC search (0)
* Worldcat search: 'westra, berry' (many)
--P64 (talk) 13:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity
Talk:S. J. Simon

message: "As a member of a Russian-Jewish merchant family from Vladivostok he left Russia when young."
This needs explanation. It implies some relation to Jewish or commercial identity, perhaps falsely. Some relation to the History of Vladivostok#Russian control seems likely, as our article mentions Japanese bombardment 1904-05 and occupation 1919; rule by rebels 1906; quadrupled population 1916 to 1922. See also Far Eastern Republic 1920-22.
--P64 (talk) 15:15, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian-Jewish émigré 

message: "Simon married Carmel Withers, a silver medalist in the Women Teams event of the 1948 European Bridge League championships."
When did they marry? He died in July and the championships were in June, the NYTimes death notice implies: "S. J. Simon ... won the European bridge championship in Copenhagen  last month, died here last night." London, July 27 --which all implies death date July 26.
--P64 (talk)
:I think the wording of the sentence that you quote may be misleading, and that they were actually already married by the time of the European Championships, as Hasenson in listing the members of the women's team has her as "Carmel Simon" rather than as "Carmel Withers". JH (talk page) 08:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now found her obituary in Hasenson, reprinted from the Contract Bridge Journal of July, 1949. It doesn't throw any light on when she and Skid married, though it's an interesting read. You can find it here: CBJ July 1949 on page 27. She died only a year after her husband, at the age of forty. JH (talk page) 15:31, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

text: They were already married by September 1946, as in that issue of the Contract Bridge Journal there is an article by "Carmel Skidelsky". It's interesting that she was using that form of her last name, given that in the same issue there is an article by "S. J. Simon". That's the earliest issue of the CBJ that is to be found on the EBU's website. (The link to follow from the main page is "English Bridge", which isn't entirely obvious, but the CBJ changed its name to "English Bridge" at some point.) JH (talk page) 19:19, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage and death 

message: A piece in the December 1946 issue of the CBJ on page 12 gives a good description of S.J. Simon. According to it, he was born at Dnipropetrovsk, but the family must have moved to Vladivostok soon afterwards (a very long move!), as the first half of his education was there (the remainder being in England). Checking with our own article, I see we say he was born in Harbin in Manchuria, which would certainly have been a lot closer to Vladivostok. I guess there's no way of knowing which birthplace is correct. JH (talk page) 19:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something else worth reading
Talk:Zia Mahmood

message: Is Mahmood a family name and Zia a given name? The ACBL Hall of Fame "plaque" does not say. --P64 (talk) 19:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mahmood 
Talk:Type 98 Military Sword

message: Topic is narrower than is required for a single page.
Content is poor. Most of what's stated here is either trivial or even factually inaccurate (for a level of detail that cares about distinguishing between shin gunto variants on separate pages!).
I don't propose merging, or the creation of a redirect page. Shin gunto is already a good page as it stands. It doesn't need what little content is in here.  If there was a redirect set up, then really it ought to cover all the shin gunto variants. I don't consider this necessary, or that "type 98 military sword" isa good enough page name to be worth preserving.
Andy Dingley 18:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Propose deletion
Talk:EN 13537

message: the whole article talks about men's comfort and temperatures. only one line talks about women. is it a mistake?? Ppchailley 09:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Men vs Women 

message: I understand that people differ, more between each other, than woman differ from man, in the contextual, mean, of temperature tolerance, and/or comfort levels of warmth.
Despite the fact, that, manufactures use similar terms and means for describing the characteristics, the use of the "person", term, would've  been more appropriate, rather than using, probably confusing, statements, as are now.
Thu Feb 21 12:07:59 EET 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yo6ial (talk • contribs) 10:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Person" wouldn't be better? 

message: This website + documents
    http://sectionhiker.com/sleeping-bag-temperature-ratings-fact-or-fantasy/
    http://www.outdoorindustry.org/pdf/EN13537Mccullough062209.pdf
    http://www.outdoorindustry.org/pdf/EN13537TestLabComparisonMethod.pdf
talk about how the hat/facemask... and actual dimensions of dummy aren't standardized,
so there is variance between tests conducted at different labs ;
sometimes the variance is 20 degrees.
This needs to be mentioned in the article appropriate wikipedia style (not by me).
Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.144.118 (talk) 07:43, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  variance between testers, unaccounted factor
Talk:Human impact on the environment

message: — Assignment last updated by Esuhanoble1 (talk) 21:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: BISC 2 Genetics, Ecology, and Evolution

message: I've removed the further reading list as I think it's an arbitrary list and likely Global North focused. It will also become outdated quite fast:
* Diamond, Jared. Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, Penguin Books, 2005 and 2011 ().
* 
* 
* 
* Lovelock, James (2009). The Vanishing Face of Gaia. Basic Books. 
* The Garden of Our Neglect: How Humans Shape the Evolution of Other Species 5 July 2012 Scientific American
* Sutherland W. et al. (2015). What Works in Conservation, Open Book Publishers, .
*Ending the Colonization of the Non-Human World. Biological Conservation. 9 November 2022. EMsmile (talk) 11:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed further reading list
Talk:List of waste management companies

message: --Alex 09:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

message: What is the criteria for being "major"? In Denmark, 100 trucks might be "major", while that could be "small" in US. How much money does a "major" company make? G®iffen 16:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. I don't have an answer!--Alex 09:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It was removed as the page wasn't created as a directory with external links to waste management companies. I also believe the other skip company isn't particularly notable.--Alex 09:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Size?

message: I would also like to ask this question. I posted a link to Select A Skip, which is the UK's 2nd largest skip hire company and it was removed.
:It was removed as the page wasn't created as a directory with external links to waste management companies. I also believe the other skip company isn't particularly notable.--Alex 09:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Size II

message: Wouldn't it be smart to divide this list in countries? After a few years a mixed list might be quite confusing... G®iffen 16:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes perhaps, however a lot of these are multinational with operations crossing international boundaries--Alex 09:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try to look here and see if I'm nuts or it can be used or modified? Divided in continents and subdivided in countries. G®iffen 10:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How would you deal with the multinationals- most of these listed here are just that.--Alex 09:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my example (linket 2 steps above this) multi's should be at the "Intercontinental" section or in a continent section. Alternatively one should list after country of HQ and add (US)(UK)(Spain) etc. after each? Preferably in alfabetical order? I'm open for other solutions. G®iffen 20:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Triumvirate Environmental as a major waste management company, it never posted. Please add
<outdent> Lede now mentions many may be multinational but list is now sorted by location of company HQ. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 05:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography

message: Name              	Founded	Headquarters      	Vehicles
The Shakti Plastic	1969   	Maharashtra, India	850
Dhananjayrv (talk) 13:42, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Does not have a Wikipedia article yet. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request
Talk:Guitar Player

message: "Guitar Player" redirects to "Guitarist" and "Guitar Player Magazine" redirects to "Guitar Player". "Guitar Player" should just go straight to this page then. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.48.161.4 (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirects 