Talk:Strom Thurmond

message: Attended Clemson before Pi Kappa Alpha was established there.  He was initiated by Xi Chapter at the University of South Carolina in 1959.https://www.pikes.org/pike-foundation/support-the-pike-foundation/lifetime-achievement-order-of-the-west-range — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.94.240.137 (talk) 16:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pi Kappa Alpha 

message: The "Post-1970 views regarding race" starts out by mentioning the fact that post 1970, South Carolina African-African American voters could no longer be ignored as voting block by white senatorial candidates in the state which does little to inform us on Thurmond's personal views on the subject. It then it goes on talk how he hired a black women to his staff but does little to answer whether this was a result of his changing views on race or simply tokenism at play here. Finely, it ends with a  statement about how he never repudiated his past views on racial segregation, implying his views on race never really change that much post-1970 and that he was simply being pragmatic as well disingenuous by hiring a token African-American on his staff to make it appear as if his views had changed without actually having done so. What the section really needs is any actually statements he made on the subject of race and whether many people truly believed at the time that him hiring the black staff member was a true sign of change vs simply tokenism. If he made no statements on race during this time and was simply silent on the matter we should be clear that it unclear just what views on the subject were post-1970's since hiring a single black staffer is clearly proof of any significant change in an of itself.--Notcharliechaplin (talk) 22:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad this section has been removed/revised, but I do feel like there could be a section which deals a little more in-depth with the issues of his racism. It seems like the best we can do is talk about how he is not NOT a racist? I just find it somewhat troubling and discouraging that in an approximately 20k word article about the life of an objectively racist octogenarian senator, the word "racist" appears a grand total of TWO times. Marcberm (talk) 13:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "Post-1970 views regarding race" does not actually really properly address what the section's title claims in does 

message: I believe this page should be taken down because it contains false information, I will request for it to be deleted. (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not going to happen. It is clearly an article about a notable person. If there is incorrect information we'll fix it, not delete the article. What specifically do you think is incorrect? Meters (talk) 19:31, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I see the user has already asked for admin help on his talk page and been answered. The user has already been pointed to AFD, RS, COI and how to request edits. Asking a second time is not going to change the answer, Meters (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: proposed deletion

message: In the preface it's stated that in 1964 Thurmond switched parties for a second time. No where is mentioned when, why of form where he switched the first time. Also if I try to look it up, nothing comes up. I suggest to remove the part "for a second time". Or add the first time and what happened en when.
KeijersJ (talk) 13:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thurmond split from the Democratic party to run for president as a third-party Dixiecrat candidate in 1948. Afterward, he went back to the Democratic party. This is covered by the article in the 'Run for President' section, though not identified clearly as a party switch. The article's top-right infobox also identifies his 'political affiliation' with the Dixiecrat party. —ADavidB 19:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Agreed, and done. —ADavidB 16:12, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Switching parties 

message: The current length of this article is 114,764 characters. Just for comparison, the current length of the longest Featured Article (Hillary Clinton) is 110,304 characters. I agree that Thurmond's political career is much longer than that of Hillary Clinton, but I do want to reorganize this article to somewhat 80,000 to 85,000 characters. I read the article, and made some changes re-organizing it's sections, which, in my opinion was necessary. With that done, I wish to do the following:
* Reduction in length  Per WP:TOOBIG Articles above length of 100,000 characters . We can have a detailed article on United States Senate career of Strom Thurmond, but for now, various things in the prose needs to be removed. (final length should be somewhat 80,000 to 85,000 characters)
* Shifting content to appropriate sections  Currently, various incidents of his nth senatorial term are mentioned in the section on his mth senatorial term. There was a subsection named Carter nominees under Nixon administration. This is something, which could be fixed by a thorough read of the article.
* Adding citations  I don't see citation a major issue with this article, as we have various citations. But almost all citations needs to be re-formatted properly. Some expert studies and books also needs to be included.
* Thorough copyedit  Definitely required. 
I'll be editing this article. Please let me know of any issues or concerns. Thanks!  Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of article 

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