Talk:3G

message: ...is what exactly?  Are they the same, or not?  If not, which is preferable, and which gives the better results?
As too many others have detailed, this article is so bemused as to be completely meaningless, perhaps even an information-free zone.  Lose most of the tech-talk, and do what encyclopedias are supposed to do, explain in English. 203.161.102.82 (talk) 09:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The difference between EDGE and 3G... 

message: I've removed some bolding.  Does Wikipedia's style actually dictate the bolding? Dannman (talk) 21:14, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolding 

message: we should mention that Cellular network providers are discontinuing 3g services in a large number of developed countries, these being Australia, Canada, China, Japan, Korea, Tiwan, United States. European Providers are also shutting down 3g Some links are below 
*https://www.digi.com/blog/upcoming-2g-and-3g-global-cellular-network-sunset-dates/ 
*https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Australian-3G-network-shutdown-what-you-need-to-know
*https://nae.global/en/the-status-of-the-2g-3g-network-sunset/ All hail Armok (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  3g shut down 

message: I have a few gripes:
* I didn't add the Canadian dates because there was no concrete source attached to it. A few websites have it but don't provide a good source or any statement from these companies. Just a date.
* I changed China Mobile to 2020 because the most recent source says that it would shut down by 2020. The source saying since 2016 is older. The German dates had newer sources as well, until you removed them. Telia Lithuania says by Christmas 2022 it will shut down 3G. The older version has an incorrect date of the 31st.
* The South Korean section is LITERALLY ABOUT 2G, NOT 3G. Don't believe me? The source for KT literally says "Terminating 2G service". The LG article also talks about 2G, not 3G. So does SK Telecom, which the source literally says "to support their transition to the telco’s more advanced networks (3G/4G/5G)". It implies that 3G networks are still going for now. The "2G is actually 3G in South Korea" claim has no source and isn't supported by the sources in question.
* Asia Pacific Telecom under Taiwan has no source at all. The Taiwan source also doesn't name any cell companies directly.
* Liberty Puerto Rico is an MVNO. It doesn't run its own network (I'm pretty sure it just uses AT&T's), it shouldn't be there. 2601:901:4300:1CF0:928B:61C3:40AC:EE08 (talk) 00:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: So I feel like you didn't "update" anything. You just reverted to older sources. Some of that content was removed for a good reason. 2601:901:4300:1CF0:928B:61C3:40AC:EE08 (talk) 00:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

text: @Joshuarshah, @Wizzito what happened? Has there been an intervention from the administrative side? The two recent reverts I've been notified about seem to have vanished. However the above is totally nonsense. All points can be verified and therefore were present in the list for a long time without any second guess by anyone though several contributors interacted in the meanwhile. Nightwalker-87 (talk) 07:04, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense? It's not nonsense (this was me editing as an IP). I have valid concerns about your reversion; I was merging the two tables together; I made a duplicate table accidentally, but my table had some stuff not in the older table and vice versa, so I merged the two, adding the new information from my table and the information that was present in the old table not present in my table (if that makes sense). No administrative action has happened. wizzito | say hello! 07:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Stuff can also be false or wrong or out of date but still stay in an article... see the entries on WP:HOAXLIST for a similar example. wizzito | say hello! 07:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You were inadvertently restoring the older version of the table with older information and some false information (e.g. 2G shutdowns in a 3G shutdown table). I would restore my table but WP:3RR has been broken at this point. wizzito | say hello! 07:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Yeah i'm not sure what happened here. Joshua Shah (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

text: No, this was definitely not in inadvertently. It is a matter of fact that a whole bunch of information vanished without any reason since 06 Mar 2022 in a sequence of obviously unorganised an chaotic edits - and that is definitely not in common interest. If there are additional sources they can simply be added (if needed) to prove additional content. Further we have tools like templates to mark content that is put into question regarding specific verifiability of details. It is also no harm if original sources vanish over time and thus become archived automatically. So against this background I clearly request to quit any further destructive approaches and instead use this talk-page for discussions with other editors to achieve common sense. Thank You. Nightwalker-87 (talk) 07:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing "vanished". I merged the original table and my duplicate together. I explained what I removed during that merge and why. I feel as if your behavior is not in good faith and that you are trying to take ownership of the article by reinstating a table that I have already stated is incorrect in some parts. I will be posting at ANI next. wizzito | say hello! 07:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  3G shutdown table 

message: Given that the table contains a lot of networks that, per its own information, are current networks, it seems strange that it is titled "past 3G networks".  is repeatedly reverting it to that title. I think it is appropriate to discuss this, rather than engage in further reversion - or at least for such changes to be explained in the revision comment, as in most recent such change. I do note that this (misleading, factually incorrect) title is consistent with other pages on mobile phone tech generations, but that doesn't make it right - and if it should be made clearer, then this is as good a place as any to do it first.
Alternatively, keep that title, add another section for networks due to shut down, and split the table. Either is possible, and preferable to having a table described as "past networks" that contains a great deal of current, live networks. SamBC(talk) 21:43, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Extensive coverage of networks with (sometimes very vague) shutdown announcements seems to violate WP:NOT & WP:TOOMUCH from my point of view. This should be limited to notable deployments as per WP:NOTE and/or/else limited to a timeframe covering the upcoming 1-2 years at a maximum. Also a fixed date should be available. In such a context the current title should be fine. Nightwalker-87 (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of shutdown table 

message: bouygues will shut down GSM end 2026 and UMTS end 2029
https://www.igen.fr/telecoms/2023/02/bouygues-telecom-coupera-la-2g-en-2026-et-la-3g-en-2029-135249 Adhame95 (talk) 00:11, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I've received the news already and will update the list soon. Thanks. Nightwalker-87 (talk) 14:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bouygues Telecom (France) 2G and 3G shutdown  

message: https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2023/04/26/a1-slovenia-to-say-goodbye-to-3g-in-june/ Adhame95 (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Added to article. Drahtlos (talk) 11:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slovenia 3g sunset 

message: https://www.telecompaper.com/news/singapore-to-switch-off-3g-networks-in-july-2024--1470922?utm_source=headlines_-_english&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=26-07-2023&utm_content=textlink Adhame95 (talk) 23:26, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2023/07/27/singapore-mnos-to-fully-retire-3g-services-by-end-july-2024/?utm_source=CommsUpdate&utm_campaign=d77ef8379d-CommsUpdate+27+July+2023&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0688983330-d77ef8379d-11685860 Adhame95 (talk) 10:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singapore shutdown in july 2024