Talk:Gori, Georgia

message: I'd be willing to travel to Georgia just to see that statue. Really, I'm curious as why the city kept it, or more - why it was spared the purge of the other relics of the Soviet past. Shadowrun 09:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer is in your post. :) The statue brings money as it is Gori's most famous tourist attraction.--KoberTalk 12:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalin's Statue 

message: Reports are that Russian Su-25's have bombed Gori on August 8th, 2008.  Does anyone have more detailed information and sources on this development?  164.67.237.253 (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Ossetian Conflict 

message: Can someone put up an IPA pronunciation key please?  --Selket Talk 20:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronouniation 

message: What a bullshit? Who wrote this idiotism? The article is locked. Be so kind to correct this nonsense.--93.177.151.101 (talk) 15:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When article content that is referenced/sourced is deleted because of POV, this is considered vandalism, and UserSkyBon should be warned accordingly. If the user has sourced information disputing the contents of this article, then this information can be added to show that there is a controversy. However, in no case is it acceptable behaviour to simply delete referenced information/content simply because we personally do not agree with what the content states. --MChew (talk) 09:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, vandalism is disruption of Wikipedia for no reason other than the sake of disruption. POV-based edits are not vandalism, but a NPOV dispute. Not that this justifies SkyBon's pointless revert warring. --Illythr (talk) 11:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gori shelled by Georgian forces? 

message: he city was founded by one of the greatest kings of Georgia, David the Builder (1089–1125). It has a population of 60,000. Gori is situated where the Liakhvi River enters the Mtkvari. The city was largely destroyed in the 1920 earthquake. how to apply make up  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.55.15 (talk) 19:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  About 

message: Georgia's government has officially recognized the use of cluster bombs against russian targets  during the conflict.(Грузия признала факт использования кассетных бомб в Южной Осетии Известия.ru]) It is a fact. Please do not delete important and neutral information. The rest - an excuse. Russia did not recognize. It is also a fact. ( not in Gori & in Gori . It is politic and excuse) --PlatonPskov (talk) 19:06, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "It is politic and excuse"? No, it's actually WP:SYNTHESIS on your part. The article is about Gori and Georgia acknowledged cluster bombing of—as you correctly put it—Russian targets north of Tskhinvali. To the best of my knowledge Gori did not include Russian targets. This is the fact. The rest is "politic and excuse" plus WP:SYNTHESIS.--KoberTalk 19:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, it's actually WP:SYNTHESIS on your part. Georgia has acknowledged that, as the use of cluster bombs. Russia has not recognized the fact, as it does not use bombs. That is enough. ///sorry for my english/// --PlatonPskov (talk) 19:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

text:  + Phrase is neutral - "Later, Georgia has officially recognized the Georgian aviation use of cluster bombs." Without this phrase creates a false impression that only Russia has used cluster bombs (but Russia has not recognized this fact). Without this phrase creates a false impression  that Georgia has not used the bomb ever. I beg to observe neutrality. --PlatonPskov (talk) 19:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I know what your "neutrality" means. Your reasoning is hardly convincing for someone coming from Georgia and way too much familiar with the Russian propaganda. You're intentionally trying to make the passage ambiguous to create a false impression that Georgians bombed themselves and then accused Russians of doing that. That's something Russians did during the 1993 bombing of Georgian positions in Abkhazia, when your defense minister Grachev advanced claims that Georgians painted their jets in Russians colors and then bombed themselves. So your tricks won't go here. Wanna mention Georgian use of cluster bombs? Fine. Then add what your own source says: the location and timing of cluster bombing during the war. That's not only the only possible compromise but your only chance to clear yourself of accusations of WP:SYNTHESIS and tendentious editing. --KoberTalk 04:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In your propaganda will not get involved.  Just the Facts. That's not only the only possible compromise but your only chance to clear yourself of accusations of WP:SYNTHESIS and tendentious editing.= Black is white, white is black - your technique. You deliberately imagine that only the Russian and the use of cluster bombs - Your "neutrality" is falsification. I know what your "neutrality" means. Your reasoning is hardly convincing for someone coming from Georgia and way too much familiar with the Russian propaganda. You're intentionally trying to make the passage ambiguous to create a false impression that Georgians bombed themselves and then accused Russians of doing that. That's something Russians did during the 1993 bombing of Georgian positions in Abkhazia, when your defense minister Grachev advanced claims that Georgians painted their jets in Russians colors and then bombed themselves. So your tricks won't go here.- Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. Neutrality is neutrality. --PlatonPskov (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

text:  I repeat the phrase again - "Later, Georgia has officially recognized the Georgian aviation use of cluster bombs."  - Without this phrase creates a false impression that only Russia has used cluster bombs (but Russia has not recognized this fact). Without this phrase creates a false impression  that Georgia has not used the bomb ever. --PlatonPskov (talk) 16:28, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is an article about the town Gori. Usage of cluster munitions in Gori by Russian forces (as reported by HRW and disputed by Russia) is relevant to this article. Usage of cluster munitions by Georgian forces elsewhere is not. --illythr (talk) 22:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an article about the town Gori. Usage of cluster munitions in Gori is relevant to this article. So usage of cluster munitions by Russian forces (as reported by HRW and disputed by Russia) and usage of cluster munitions by Georgian forces is relevant to this article. Or so:: "Later on, Georgia has officially recognized the use of the Georgian aviation cluster bombs, but only against Russian forces.".--PlatonPskov (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Did Georgia recognize its own usage of cluster munitions *in Gori*? --illythr (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: again? Georgia has acknowledged its use of cluster bombs as a whole, and then specified that "only against Russian forces". And this is important. If Russia does not recognize as a whole, and therefore not recognized in Gori. So: Georgia has officially recognized the use of the Georgian aviation cluster bombs, and then specified that, but officialy «only against Russian forces» --PlatonPskov (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unless you can provide a reliable report documenting the use of cluster munitions in Gori by Georgian forces, this sentence does not belong here, as per WP:SYNTH. Instead, it belongs to the appropriately general article, 2008 South Ossetia war, where it is already mentioned in detail. --illythr (talk) 21:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, but officialy «only against Russian forces» --PlatonPskov (talk) 22:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  As long as Georgian usage of cluster munitions was not specifically in Gori and was not mentioned in the context of Gori by reliable third-party sources, it has no place in this article at all. В огороде бузина, а в Киеве "Буки". I can explain this in Russian if you want, but as an experienced ruwiki editor, you are surely aware of :ru:ВП:ВЕС (WP:UNDUE) already. --illythr (talk) 23:07, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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