Talk:List of grunge albums

message: This list is in need of some heavy trimming. There's no way that many of these albums can be considered grunge unless grunge means "somewhat angsty 80s and 90s guitar music". I think anything by the following bands should unquestionably be deleted from this list:
Violent Femmes, Pixies, Stone Roses, Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, The Offspring, Filter, No Doubt, PJ Harvey, Beck, Cake, Radiohead, Jesus & Mary Chain, Deftones, V.A.S.T., Sonic Youth, Rage Against the Machine, R.E.M., Jane's Addiction, Placebo
I'm also very wary of imcluding Alanis Morissette and The Smashing Pumpkins, but at least they're in the general neighborhood of grunge.--Words to sell 15:30, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
:I'd be glad to see most of these go. Of the ones, you listed, here are the ones I'd consider to have any claim on being on the list:
:*Violent Femmes, especially their first album, certainly very influential on the lyrical themes of grunge. The line from them to Mudhoney in this respect seems pretty clear.
:*Pixies: probably the strongest claim of anyone on this list, not so much for their precise sound as because they seem to have been a pretty direct influence on both the Melvins and Nirvana.
:*The Offspring: just on their sound, especially on their first album.
:*PJ Harvey: (1) Her sound on some of her recordings, (2) she has actually recorded with Mark Lanegan (ex-Screaming Trees).
:*Jane's Addiction: Again, the sound. They were certainly, at the very least, very respected by many musicians in the Seattle grunge scene. 
:I don't really know V.A.S.T. or Placebo, so I can't comment. The rest I'd be glad to see go from this list, especially R.E.M. They have strong connections to the Seattle music scene, but emphatically to the pop side rather than the grunge side. And as for Nine Inch Nails, if they are grunge, who isn't? -- Jmabel | Talk 19:45, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
::This list is elementary at best and historically unfounded.  The Violent Femmes, the Pixies, the Offspring, PJ Harvey and Jane's Addiction are (with emphasis) NOT grunge bands, nor are they substantively related to the scene.  Artists like the Violent Femmes and the Pixies may certainly have been influential, but only to the extent that the other big name artists in the college rock world of the late 80's leveraged a degree of influence on the grunge aesthetic.  Would anyone legitimately venture to claim that the Moving Targets, Daniel Johnston, Naked Raygun, Husker Du, Half Japanese, Big Black, or the Leaving Trains were grunge artists?(the answer is no, just in case you were confused).
::As far as REM is concerned, I view this as a half-hearted and misguided attempt to link the grunge movement to the 80's college scene.  This isn't necessary.  Early grunge had its own niche, much like early shoegaze, or early noise.  If one wanted to look to antecedents to the grunge movement, it would be appropriate to look to the L.A. hardcore scene and SST.24.124.14.65 19:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source that Wikipedia refers to for classification of grunge (AllMusic) lists Bush as grunge. Opinions aside, the list should at least be consistent. CheddarBBQ (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grunge? 

message: Would Mudhoney's 2002 and 2006 albums still considered grunge?
:No.  Perhaps some genre clarification would benefit this list.  As it is generally regarded, Grunge in its purest sense is applied to a specific variety of late 80's early 90's college rock.  The barriers of the genre were pushed back by increasing commercial popularity c.91.  It became a full on movement characterized by a particular aesthetic approach to music, but to characterize certain endeavors as grunge beyond the temporal barriers of the scene is a mischaracterization.  This includes retroactive characterization.  Wipers, for instance, while massively influential and a part of the Sub Pop lineup in the mid-80's (in fact, if I'm not mistaken, they, along with Wichita, Kansas's the Embarrassment were among the first bands associated with Sub Pop), they were nonetheless not a part of the movement.  Be careful... music can be "grungy" without being Grunge.
:Specifically, with respect to Mudhoney, they are, at best, these days, a corporate alt. radio rock band... much like the Foo Fighters or Queens of the Stone Age.  This is, of course, highly POV, but the analysis is nonetheless worthwhile.  If we were to characterize everything that sounds-like-Grunge as Grunge, the list would be massive, historically mischaracterized, and a phenomenal misrepresentation of the scene.  No, stick to the genre as it is historically understood... expand the list to include groups that are less obvious contributers to the scene (I mean for God's sake, this thing is barely elementary...). 24.124.14.65 18:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mudhoney?

message: Erm.. is there a reason for all those amazon links? Half of them are broken anyway... nick 22:28, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I say no, they should be gotten rid of. They are distinctly against policy. - Jmabel | Talk 06:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazon 

message: I noticed there's a Marilyn Manson album on here.  Last time I checked, he's Industrail/Glam Metal.  He should be removed.
* Agreed. - Jmabel | Talk 22:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are rumors on the Internet that he is a bit grunge.IHaveBecauseOfLocks (talk) 14:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marilyn Manson? 

message: Seven Mary Three and Toadies are Grunge bands.  They should be on here.
* Seven Mary Three and Toadies are, to my thinking at least, minor. I'd be interested in other views. - Jmabel | Talk 22:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's Seven Mary Three and Toadies 

message: I know they are often considered a Grunge band, but every Heavy Metal site has them listed.  A little genre specification, please.
* Soundgarden: utterly grunge in style, in what scene they were part of; to my ear they sound somewhere between Mudhoney and Pearl Jam, both of whom are unanimously considered grunge. Alice in Chains: Certainly on the line between grunge and metal. My own view would be to classify them in both. I presume the metal factor goes without saying, but the vocals and the subject matter were very grunge and, again, they were part of the grunge "scene". - Jmabel | Talk 22:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice in Chains and Soundgarden? 

message: riot act is not listed
nor is weezer blue album.
Weezer's genre has ranged for garage rock to early emo to pop rock. In short: They're not grunge. --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 01:57, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Riot Act 

message: Can we agree that Candlebox is not grunge but rather a major label radio-friendly version of what they think grunge is?
i agree  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.175.241.26 (talk) 03:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candlebox 

message: Dogman was a notable Grunge album by a famous band in 1994.  A decent article has already been made for it so why not list it here at the Grunge album page?  King's X is usually considered a prog band, but they did grunge well in 1994.  Here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogman
Bobroberts248 (talk) 07:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dogman (King's X) a notable Grunge album 

message: KISS' Carnival of Souls album is a grunge album, should be added to the list...
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/35036/KISS-Carnival-of-Souls%3A-The-Final-Sessions/
There weren't that many reviews, as it wasn't a popular album, but there is one, and just take a listen to the damn album if that isn't enough...
99.229.114.180 (talk) 17:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  KISS' Carnival of Souls 

message: Why are KISS' Hot in the Shade and Revenge listed as grunge albums, they are not at all...and like I said previously, the one grunge album they did have, is not listed...Carnival of Souls.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.114.180 (talk) 17:15, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WTF?  

message: I noticed a severe lack of a few bands who should certainly be listed on here.
Entire bands discographies:
Coffin Break's Discography [C/Z Records]
Seaweed's Discography [SUBPOP]
Sweet Water's Discography [RAGE RECORDS/EMI]
The Afghan Whigs' Discography [SUBPOP] 
Pond's Discography [SUBPOP]
Willard's Discography [ROADRUNNER]
Gas Huffer's Discography [EMPTY RECORDS]
Individual albums / bands with smaller discographies
Blood Circus - Primal Rock Therapy (1989)[SUBPOP] Both Nirvana and Mudhoney played their first actual gigs opening for these guys.
Dandelion - I Think I'm Gonna Be Sick (1993)[COLUMBIA/RUFFHOUSE] Philadelphia grunge band.
Dandelion - Dyslexicon (1995)[SONY]
Flowerhead - ...Ka-Bloom! (1992)[BMG/ZOO ENTERTAINMENT] Psychedelic grunge band from Austin, Texas.
Flowerhead - The Peoples Fuzz (1995)[BMG/ZOO ENTERTAINMENT]
The Gits - Frenching the Bully (1992)[C/Z RECORDS] The Gits were one of the most important in the Seattle Scene, featured in Hype!, their success was cut short by the murder of vocalist Mia Zapata, namesake of the 7 Year Bitch album Viva Zapata.
The Gits - Enter: The Conquering Chicken (1994)[C/Z RECORDS]
Bundle of Hiss - Sessions: 1986-1988 (2000)[LOVELESS RECORDS] Early grunge band, played with Skin Yard, Green River, Soundgarden, Etc.
Crunt - Crunt (1991)[INSIPID RECORDS/TRANCE SYNDICATE] Kat Bjelland of Babes in Toyland's side project Feat. Stu Spasm of Australian Noise Rock band Lubricated Goat.
Smile - Maquee (1995)[ATLANTIC/HEADHUNTER] Sludgey Post-Punk/Grunge band from Orange County, call The Melvins one of their main influences.
Smile - Boy Crushes Girl (1998)[ATLANTIC/HEADHUNTER]
Crackerbash - S/T (1992) [EMPTY RECORDS] Punky Grunge band, featured in Hype!
142.126.159.18 (talk) 15:34, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Few Albums/Artists who should be listed here