Talk:Mantak Chia

message: Wow, this terrible short article has spawned such a lively discussion! Why not create a separate, maybe long, section for criticism?
As an outsider (who an encyclopedic article should be written for), I couldn't care less who respects who. Looks like all can agree he's a businessman and not a monk or a pastor, so why not describe what he does for a living and who he's done it for? In particular, why is he notable if his teachings are so indistinguishable from his peers that plagiarism could plausibly go either way? Potatoswatter 07:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  divide and conquer 

message: Why did someone delete the reference to Lee Erwin's article and regarding Yudelove, Lewis and Win? Whats up?
:I've restored that sourced statement. I've also restored other deleted info and provided references. Vassyana 13:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Divide and conquier? substantiate this crap

message: Recently there have been some additions to the article with enthusiastic descriptions of Chia's services. Unfortunately, while sourced from Chia's site, they aren't sourced from anywhere else and sound like they came from a travel brochure, so I've toned them down quite a bit. They, and other bits of the article that stem exclusively from primary sources, will eventually be removed if adequate citations can't be found. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 15:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary sources and advertising language 

message: I don't have the time to edit this article down to the facts, but I think someone should do it.
As a Chi Kung teacher, I can say that Mr Chia is not an outright fraud: he really does have some valuable knowledge. On the other hand, it is undeniable that he does charge a lot of money (as of course do a lot of other people selling other products such as iPhones, expensive watches, sex toys etc, that no-one is forced to buy: it's unclear to me at what point one draws a line and says that this is something other than the simple and appropriate functioning of the law of supply and demand).
The following seem to me to be inappropriate in the main body of the article:
Praising the benefits of the practice
Comparisons to other authors and teachers - favorable or unfavorable - unless designed to illuminate lineage
Recounting of Mr Chia's views on subjects other than his main area of expertise, unless perhaps corralled in a separate suitably-labeled section.
Perhaps what this article needs is for all expressions of opinion, positive and negative, to be removed from the main text, placed in a 'controversies' section, and properly sourced. 174.21.159.152 (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just the facts....? 

message: * : ) Randomspirit (talk) 03:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Website! 

message: 15 seconds into this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGXQftctJ0 he says that he was born July 1944. --VanBuren (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

message: I added the POV maintenance template because this article reads like an advert. In particular there seems to be very little in terms of dissenting or skeptical discussion of the subject matter. I think there's a lot of room for improvement. Fragglet (talk) 17:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

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