Talk:Douglas Bader

message: This article, with citation, states he died on his way after attending a tribute to Sir Arthur Harris at the London Guildhall. However I notice Ask.com, in its answer to the question Where is Douglas Bader Buried?, states he passed on 5 September 1982 from a mild heart attack after a golf tournament. Did the match and tribute happen same day?Cloptonson (talk) 05:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Circumstances of Death

message: The section "Post-war career" says: "Bader assumed control of Shell's aircraft group, which employed around 250,000 people." Following this sentence, someone had written: "Shell only employs 90,000 people in 2013 so this is likely to be a factual error. Provide source." I've replaced this comment with a  template, and I'm bringing the comment here to be discussed. DoctorKubla (talk) 09:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase should be deleted as no evidence forthcoming SovalValtos (talk) 19:34, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tweaked it and provided a reference that he was managing director, we dont have a reference for the number of employees and it is not really relevant but I suspect it would have been more like 250! MilborneOne (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good SovalValtos (talk) 08:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shell Aircraft 

message: Did I dream this?  Just in the last week, I'm sure I read somewhere that the actor who played him, Kenneth More, was a second cousin or some such.  I can't find any mention of this online.  Was I dreaming?  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 12:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Related to Kenneth More?

message: The article describes Thelma Edwards as 'a waitress', but she was in fact a well-bred middle-class lady temporarily helping out the tea-shop proprietors, who were related to her, during a staff shortage. Bader, given the class-bound social conventions of Britain at the time, is highly unlikely to have married a waitress. Brickhill's Reach For the Sky explains Thelma's respectable background.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.162.81 (talk) 08:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not clear from the references who had the least respectable background and why it should affect their marriage. It might be suitable to describe her as 'undergoing therapy by being a waitress after the death of a dog' SovalValtos (talk) 20:59, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thelma Edwards 

message: Is there/was there another air-force in the world outside Germany named the Luftwaffe? If not, is not the phrase 'German Luftwaffe' a tautology? 121.44.162.81 (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Switzerland. MilborneOne (talk) 21:09, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "German" Luftwaffe? 

message: In case anyone is puzzled by the explanation of my edit to the Battle of Britain section saying that Bader was tempted to cut off the Hienkel's nose with his propeller, "nose" was a careless slip for "rudder". So sorry.--Mabzilla (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cutting off the Hienkel's nose" 

message: I can't believe that no-one has updated this entry with the above nickname by which Douglas Bader was known after he received his artificial legs. Will be updated soon. --johnr_roberts (talk) 07:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tin Legs" Bader 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article lists only British honours. According to Brickhill, he also received from France, both Légion d'Honeur, and Croix de Guerre. They should be included. Ptilinopus (talk) 08:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a reliable reference then you are welcome to add these to the list. MilborneOne (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honours 

message: Douglas Bader did not "lose both his legs", as the article claims.
He 'lost' a foot from one leg, and the other leg was cut above the knee.
To lose a leg, all of it, means right up to the hip.  Surgically, it translates to a hemipelvectomy.
This isn't a trivial point. If authors on Wikipedia continue to describe losing a leg as nothing more than losing a foot, then they are insulting those, including war veterans and civilians caught in conflict, who really have lost all of a leg.
You can lose a foot, and have a prosthesis fitted easily.  You can then walk, run, ride a bicycle or pilot a Spitfire.
If you lose a whole leg, you can't do any of these things.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.69.119 (talk) 
:Wikipedia reflects what sources say about their subject. The overwhelming majority of sources describe Bader as having lost both legs. If you can find a reliable source which describes the exact nature of his amputations, it may be worth including though. (Hohum @) 17:51, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "lose both his legs" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It is widely believed Bader was deliberately shot down by one of his own pilots in August 1941, because he kept exposing them to risk unnecessarily. (86.163.135.42 (talk) 17:41, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? (Hohum @) 18:11, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shot down by own side 

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*Ministry of Defence article on the unveiling of the Blue Plaque
* The Douglas Bader Foundation
* RAF Museum online exhibition of Bader
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*  The RAF side who lost 0 – 16 to the Royal Navy in 1931. Douglas Bader is on the far right in the front
* Imperial War Museum Interview from 1982
* Flying Scholarships for Disabled People.  A charity set up in Douglas Bader's Memory.
*   --  Otr500 (talk) 14:52, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Modern biographers believe Bader showed definite signs of autism. (Aardi18 (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autism 

message: Can someone explain in plain English what this means?  "In Warburg, Rademacher liked enforcing harsh searches and long Appells.[136] With regularity, he commanded the ferrets to storm a barrack, and 'bastard search'.[136] He also delayed Appells in the freezing cold."  What are Appells?  What ferrets?  What's a "bastard search"?  Thanks. 2601:5CC:C900:345:8B69:8A1D:5CA8:F8C7 (talk) 03:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  General