Talk:Jutsu (Naruto)/Archive 1

message: I'm getting really tired of all this constant renaming. There are many page on wikipedia that refer back to this page, but half the time the links are broken because the technique headings CONSTANTLY change. Let's get a concensus, please. How are we naming the techniques? Is it Japanese name first (English name) or English name (japanese name)? I personally prefer Japanese Name (English Name) mainly because this is an ANIME done in JAPAN, and we should do our best to preserve this. Yes, I know the English names are "official" viz translations, but when we translate Kage Bunshin no Jutsu to Art of the Doppelganger, we have to look at ourselves and say "WTF, mate?".
THEREFORE, let it be known that from this day forth, we need a concensus. That is all. I like rabbits. 
P.S.: I'm also going to stick the cleanup tag up on this article now.
Hobbeslover 16:33, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. --Pentasyllabic 19:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of sections 

message: I started some downcasing in section headings to conform to Wikipedia:Manual of Style; clearly more is needed.  Also, what's with the section levels?  "Basic information" is TOO BIG! Michael Hardy 21:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  formatting, &c. 

message: What on Earth is Mushi Kabe no Jutsu? I've never heard of it. Has it only appeared in the anime?--JadziaLover 09:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, I believe it appeared in several episodes back, in one of those 'filler episodes' --An 00:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New jutsu 

message: I almost cannot believe the length of this page.  Naruto is getting ridiculous.  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 01:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Characters of Naruto is longer :P #27 on the longest pages list, while this page is #58. Nobody really has any good ideas for how to split either of these articles though... --Pentasyllabic 02:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that list of characters is just ... wow.  I have a newfound hatred for long-running anime series that just don't know when to call it quits.  Or at least anime series that unnecessarily inject dozens of throw-away characters (and each of which is slightly longer than the last so that they always pose a challenge to the hero).  --Cyde Weys talk;contribs 02:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that the character list shows even characters that appeared and died in the same chapter. As for this list, put yourself in a common user place. You may have heard about Naruto, and come here to learn what Naruto is. But you won't come to know what Jikki Chikamatsu no Shu or White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu is. Heck, you probably won't know how to spell it. This information is very technical, and does not fit the encyclopedia. It fits a Wikibook better. Thus, I think this article should be moved to a Wikibook. -- ReyBrujo 02:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, you never know.  White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu sounds so awesome, I think I'm going to do it tomorrow on the way to work.  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 03:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow, this page ... 

message: I'm going to redirect Naruto Jutsu's to this page, unless anyone has any objections. --Pentasyllabic 00:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do, and do it quickly. I hate it when people think Henge and Bunshin are Genjutsu ^^--JadziaLover 01:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Pentasyllabic 18:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirect? 

message: Nevermind, I found the link of the techniques images: http://www.naruto-kun.com/naruto+jutsus.html
--Datavi X 10:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we should have like links from the name of the jutsu to a mini-clip of the attack to further explain this, I know www.naruto-kun.com has quite a few clips of the jutsu. Who thinks this would be a cool/good idea? --Anyr 19:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images of the attacks? 

message: When I clicked on the link to view the Ninjutsu, it just redirects me to the main Naruto article...
Could this be solved? =\
--Datavi X 17:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the... 

message: "There are a total of nine cursed seals. Earth, heaven, etc."
So what are the other seven? --Pentasyllabic 22:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I never heard of there being nine Juin... --JadziaLover 16:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nine cursed seals? 

message: I loved back when the jutsu's were all in the same article, but now that they are seperated they are kind of difficult to find. I propose that we fuse all the jutsu's together into one article with all of the jutsu, and still have the individual articles. What do you peoples think? --Anyr 19:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A single article becomes too long, that was why it was splitted. In fact, I am not sure if the Naruto jutsu should be in Wikipedia or in a Wikibook or Wikiguide instead. Having small and long articles can't be done, since it is much harder to have both branches synchronized. -- ReyBrujo 20:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea that will help everyone... 

message: Do they really deserve to be listed? --Pentasyllabic 04:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  jutsu from Naruto games 

message: Would it be a good idea to have a picture of the 12 hand seal symbols? I'd be happy to contibute the images form the manga... Yllianos 04:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures of the Hand Seals? 

message: I don't know if there already is a section and I cannot find it, but I suggest that an article is created to describe all the different chakra elements. As in their strengths, their weaknessess, and some of the main characters who correspond with each chakra element. Such as how Naruto has wind chakra, and the strength of wind chakra is it's ability to "blow past anything and slice things to bits.", as Kakashi had put it. Mihangel 00:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jutsu (Naruto)#Chakra *taps nose twice* – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Whenever they started that little lesson in the first place. He mentions it when Naruto asks about medical techniques. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: That was a combo attack, not a mix. Yamato and Naruto combined their attacks to form a new one. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chakra Elements 

message: Sorry if I'm doing this wrong this is my first time in a discussion. I've heard that the Sharingan is called, quote Sasuke, "visual jutsu, or Doujutsu" (or something) from the dubbed version. Is this something to be noted?
:Kekkei genkai#Sharingan. It's already noted. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sharingan 

message: I think we should rank the jutsu according to their number
First Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Taijutsu
Second Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Genjutsu
Third Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Ninjutsu
219.74.37.193 21:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe that's an official order.  You're referring to the ordered list that Kakashi gave during the bell tests, right? –Gunslinger47 22:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinobi Tactical Knowledge 

message: Should we simply put the clan in general as users of a certain technique (as seen at Shadow Imitation Technique), or only to the people seen using them (only Ino for Mind Body Switch Technique), as there appears to be a lack of consistency. Sephiroth BCR 01:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So long as the jutsu is taught by the clan (or likely taught by the clan), labeling it as such seems fine. Jutsu developed by specific clan members, such as Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms and Shuriken Shadow Imitation Technique, should be left as whoever specifically uses it. ~SnapperTo 02:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clan techniques 

message: *Should Hand Seals really redirect here?  I'm sure I've seen them elsewhere.  (Off the top of my head, Sailor Mars uses them.) JuJube 07:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hand seals 

message: i have come to find out through lots of research what that each animal (of the hand seals)
are connected to a element
       	Wind	Fire	Earth	Lightning	Water
Rat    	no  	no  	yes  	no       	yes
Ox     	no  	no  	yes  	no       	yes
Tiger  	yes 	no  	no   	no       	no
Rabbit 	yes 	no  	no   	no       	no
Dragon 	yes 	no  	no   	no       	no
Snake  	no  	yes 	no   	no       	no
Horse  	no  	yes 	no   	no       	no
Sheep  	no  	yes 	no   	no       	no
Monkey 	no  	no  	no   	yes      	no
Rooster	no  	no  	no   	yes      	no
Dog    	no  	no  	no   	yes      	no
Pig    	no  	no  	no   	no       	yes
and not only that each hand seal represnts ighter dark(offensive) or light(defensive) jutsu
Offensive	Defensive
Rat      	Rabbit
Ox       	Horse
Tiger    	Sheep
Dragon   	Rooster
Snake    	Dog
Monkey   	Pig
and this governs the type of outcome of the jutsu
for example if u where to use alot of fire jutsu in your hand seal and u where to use alot of defensive hand seals then you would make some kind of fire shild but if you use alot of offensive you would use a fire breath attack
i need more info to fully understand this subject
i would really love it if you guy can put in your two cents on this sunject
and if you guy agree on what i have found out please help me but this up on wikipedia
                 
:No original research. It is not going into the article. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hand seal 

message: just have a little line that explains at least something about it, i got it from the forbidden jutsu that Orochimaru knows that brings people back to life. Uzumaki Dude 00:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Kinjutsu, on the other hand, often do fall into one of the six main ranks, but are an exception because they are forbidden (or, at the very least, frowned upon) to learn or perform." ~SnapperTo 03:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kinjutsu 

message: The "type" section of every jutsu, signifying the rank, range, and offensive or defensive nature of the jutsu, is really insignificant. Practically all the information is never noted the series (notable exceptions, Rasengan being A-rank for instance), and when it is, it can be noted for that particular jutsu. Removing them would be appropriate. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cruft 

message: What happened to the article about the rinnegan?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.76.123 (talk) 23:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it is unique to Pain. No need to list it--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 08:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rinnegan? 

message: Since Kakashi Hatake is able to perform the technique without taking off his mask, it can be assumed that the fire does not originate from inside the mouth.
1. I remember somewhere that you breath in some air, then exhale fire... Never mind this one... I misunderstood... sorry.
2. We cannot assume that Kakashi didn't remove his mask... after all we're talking about the guy who finished his ramen in 2 seconds! Ray93 22:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning [[Jutsu (Naruto)#Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique|this]]... 

message: Remember this discussion? It eventually dealt with the fact that there are too many jutsu lists and set out to fix the problem? If you haven't, jutsu details have been moved to the entries of the characters who use them, a task that was for the most part completed a few moths ago. The final step dealt with compiling whatever was left into a list that could be linked to, something I've finally gotten around to finishing. The outcome, seen here, I had intended to move to something along the lines of "List of recurring jutsu in Naruto", though I can easily imagine that being AfD'd. To skip that nasty step I thought relocating the information here would be simpler. Thoughts on the idea? Or anything else in particular? I don't imagine the redirecting of the eight articles this list covers would create problems, but I tend to be wrong about the attachment people have to such things. ~SnapperTo 19:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging it here would be fine. Size isn't an issue and it's better than having seven or so odd lists that attract vandalism and anons by the truckload. Meh, this brings back memories - I never got around to finishing this. Oh well, good job Snapper. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 19:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The merger is all fine and good I guess but can someone provide my a link to all the merged pages for info reasons?--TheUltimate3 22:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old'd 

message: There is a reason for the images and the lists. Now, unless someone is planing on doing a full wika somewhere else with everything listed in it, then you can't Get rid of the other information. Just like the plot page, and the individual character page. You don't get rid of anything unless it's somewhere else already. GOT IT! --Shadow 18:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, we can get rid of anything so long as it contradicts Wikipedia policy or consensus decides in favor of doing so. This page removes the problem of having a half-dozen lists that attract vandalism by the truckload, and are essentially a collection of indiscriminate information. This merges them under a notable topic. In any case, read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA before making such a statement. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 19:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So much for Wikipedia being a decent source of Naruto information. Go to leafninja or narutofan people, there's nothing to see here. 214.13.209.200 08:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Extremely disappointed to find all the useful information about the series on Wikipedia has been deleted for no good reason. Wikipedia was the best source of information about Naruto, and in the last few months it has unnecessarily made itself one of the worst. Detailed and useful information on characters and jutsu does not constitute a "plot summary", nor a "list of Frequently Asked Questions", nor "statistics", nor does it qualify under trivia. "Collection of indiscriminate information" is at best being bent to justify a very disappointed trimming; it is certainly not a relevant rule normally. 86.131.227.197 10:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

text: But it this way: If we hadn't merged that stuff where we could keep it nicely (I.E. Lists or merged topics or some sort) than the chances are VERY likely that it would have been deleted and that would have screwed everyone over would it.--TheUltimate3 10:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You might as well just delete it, Ultimate. It's pretty useless right now. 214.13.209.200 11:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First its THEUltimate or TheUltimate3 or simply TU3. Second, it serves its purpose for going over the jutsu that have been used more than once--TheUltimate3 20:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Third, that's a stupid, useless purpose. What would actually be useful is just having a list of all the jutsus in one place on one page, possibly broken up for length. Which is how it was done before you decided to make this page useless and godawful, instead of useful and purposeful.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.144.2 (talk) 08:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. There's a Naruto Wiki under construction. If this information (the full list of Jutsus) isn't going to be kept on the main Wikipedia site, add it to the Naruto Wiki instead, where we can use it. 69.141.234.101 01:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't there already a Naruto Wiki? And...doesn't it suck? 214.13.209.200 11:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is a Naruto Wiki and yes, it's quite bad. Why not go there and try to do something about it?Jacce 11:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: These Wikipedia mods are consistent in making their site look like a garbage source for Naruto informtation. As much as I don't like the opinionated information there, leafninja.com has officially become a better source. This is ridiculous. Intellect Ninja 22:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: One there is still the Naruto Wiki, that will be the "non-opinionated" source of info once more people come to help us along. And two, yes thats exactly whats going to happen, we will get an edit war and then nothing gets accomplished. So lets avoid that hm?--TheUltimate3 10:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it be possible to make a Naruto Portal and place the lists there? I for one found Wikipedia a great source of information regarding the jutsu lists.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nukedoom (talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikia:Naruto:Jutsu. –Gunslinger47 05:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok, now I am getting mad. 

message: Instead of dumping all the jutsu here, why instead don't we add them all together, and a few more, into a topic like List of notable jutsu in Naruto or something, where we could talk more about the techniques than somewhere like here? As for the jutsu-in-general information, well, we could put it in the Naruto universe article I've started on. The tailed beast article has little hope at all for staying, Akatsuki (Naruto) is too common a target, Naruto ninja ranks can be shortened down very easily, and Naruto geography is terrible on its own. We could just merge all four together in one article about the entire Naruto universe, not just the geography or one specific detail of it. For the Akatsuki members and the Tailed Beasts, however, all I can think of is putting them in List of Naruto characters, and to try adding other characters there as well. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at GA-class articles such as World of Final Fantasy VIII and Ivalice as reference points. Although I agree that those articles definitely need to be merged, as there is almost no chance of them staying up under WP:FICT's purview, I would like to see a finished product first. Then we can clean it up and perform a proper merger. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 01:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  pleaseeee just bring back all the information, this site is getting worse every second from all the deleting, and i always come here for naruto information, and clarification  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.120.13 (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, Sephiroth, part of the reason I linked to my in-the-makings article attempt was so I could get others to help work on it, as I alone am not able to do so. For example, I got rid of the absolutely useless countries, but what about ones with lesser details? Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 22:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps someone could provide a link to a wiki that contains all of the Jutsu information? That was a significant amount of information that is no longer accessible, and it seems like a waste to have it all gone (since their pages redirect here). Obrysii 21:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummmm.... I'm still waiting for some help with the final product, you know. ;_; Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 17:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmmm... another solution. 

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message: Why are their main articles gone?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yxgtree (talk • contribs) 20:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read above.--TheUltimate3 20:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Taijutsu 

message: Can someone basiclly just give me a description of what blood line traits are, what they do and what types are there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.59.200 (talk) 17:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a speacial trait passed down from the family. Like the Sharignan. Only Uchiha member's have it, beacuse it run's through there blood. Unlike Kakashi who has it beacuse of Obito. Tho it put's enormus strain on Kakashi's body, beacuse he is not of the clan. But having the Sharignan and you not being a Uchiha meens you can't handle it as well as those that are from the clan. Rather then those that aren't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.189.156 (talk) 04:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That's what this page (kekkei genkai) is for. :) –Gunslinger47 04:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blood Line Traits 

message: Shouldn't this should be one of the recurring jutsu as well? 129.78.64.100 04:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical jutsu 

message: Naruto never showed he can now produce the Rasengan with one hand. Please delete or otherwise verify the claim that he can, which by the way also occurs in the Naruto Uzumaki article.
I'd do it, but right now I'm not sure how to articulate how integral Kage Bunshin is for Naruto to perform Rasengan. Basically it's a high level jutsu that Naruto has nonetheless managed to master via a clever workaround or hack: the Kage Bunshin jutsu, which allows him to divide the demanding task into simpler components. One clone for regular Rasengan, two for Futon Rasengan; that is already clear. One would think he would eventually learn to do it with one hand, but actually he doesn't even need to since using Kage Bunshin costs him virtually nothing.
Thanks in advance to the willing editor. --Lionelster 18:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In NARUTO Shippuden, episode 14 when fighting itachi Naruto did demonstrate the ability to do Resengan with one hand. 71.200.36.214 20:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean episode 13, and I'm not surprised this is the only event cited to support the claim, yet very poorly. Naruto was shown holding a Rasengan charging at Itachi, but not the process of producing it. It's not uncommon for his clone to disappear after completing a Rasengan. Besides, if he has done it once he should be doing it every time since, yet that's not the case. --Lionelster 01:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Not canon, shippuden filler 201.150.69.235 03:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Chapter 258 disagrees with your perception of "not canon". ~SnapperTo 18:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SnapperTo's right in the sense that the anime showed exactly what was in the manga: the whole process of forming the Rasengan was skipped, we see Naruto already charging at Itachi with one. That's not proof he formed it with one hand. Do not jump to conclusions. --Lionelster 05:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've done the revisions myself. They are on articles Rasengan and Naruto Uzumaki#Abilities. Specifics of Rasengan removed from the latter; a link to Rasengan is included in their stead. --Lionelster 06:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

text: This has already been discussed quite thoroughly.  See Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 3#WTF?!?!. –Gunslinger47 13:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I only wanted to make you remember that if you pay attention when Naruto uses that rasengan against sasuke he used red chakra hand as a 2nd hand. 
Tintor2 21:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rasengan 

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message: The article currently states that the only known exception to a person using a water jutsu without a preexisting source of water is for Water Wall. However, in chapter 373, Yahiko uses Suiton: Mizuranppa (Water Release: Chaotic Waves) from his mouth. This is debatable because it was raining at the time that he used it, but I don't think that would count seeing as how it wasn't a large volume of consolodated water and he spit it out, rather than forming it in his hands or the like. 214.13.209.200 13:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit to Water Techniques 

message: In the 2nd databook in the shiki fujin article it says the only user is sarutobi hokage, maybe minato is not there because it wasnt seen but in the rasengan page it puts minato as an user maybe what minato taught sarutobi was how to summon the death god, but Jiraiya mentons minato used the shiki fujin(chapter 370 more or less). Can sby explain this? ~Tintor2  10:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the second databook, Sarutobi was the only listed user.  The databook lists are not meant to be complete. –Gunslinger47 20:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks, but what does it mean? Arent supposed the databooks to be complete? so can you make sure that Minato used the shiki fujin? . –Tintor2 21:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yys, Minato did use the shiki fujin, on the Kyuubi.  We hae solid evidence that the jutsu was used by the Minato in the form of one hyperactive knuckleheaded ninja. Sasuke9031 22:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stupid question 

message: If "Listing jutsu at random is not helpful", then what other options are proposed? Are we to just ignore several of the jutsu in the category specifically designated for them? Feebas factor 03:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no issue with excluding them. They are all used exactly once, so their absence is not detrimental to anything. My edit summary, however, referred to the fact that naming a jutsu is of little use if an effect (or a link to the effect) does not accompany it. ~SnapperTo 03:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water Techiques 

message: The Kekkei Genkai page is to be deleted. SO User:TheUltimate3/Kekkei Genkai here we have an archive of the article. Our current mission, move whatever is considered "recurring" to the Jutsu page, and letting the others fall into Oblivion.--TheUltimate3 13:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We could try and move on from this set back, use the Naruto Wiki (which unless you choose to be a vandal of a theif, I encourage) OR you could sit around and cry about what can't be helped. I like to choose the first 2.--TheUltimate3 14:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't we put the merge the information and condense it in the Jutsu page? σмgнgσмg 01:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ones used by more than a single person should be here. The others are placed at that person's section in the lists, like Pein or Ranmaru or Haku. Only the Sharingan, Byakugan, and tree thing are used by more than one person. It's also possible to put each on the clan's section in the Land of Fire. Either way, such information is too valuable to delete like it was. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 02:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If anything, the Rinnegan could be mentioned-and/or-detailed in Peins section. We could simply reword the Gentle Fist section into the Byakugan, add the Sharingan, with mention of Itachi's M-Sharingan in his section, and Kakashi's in his article, the Wood Release with Yamato, and the other Kekkei Genkai's could go with their respective characters.--TheUltimate3 02:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decided, it has been! 

message: At the moment, there is no mention made of the Sharingan, which has played a major role in the series, moreso than several of the technique listed. In fact, following the merge of Kekkei Genkai with this article, there seem to be no specific kekkei genkai listed here at all. Should several of the major techniques from this category, such as the eye techniques and possibly Mokuton be added to this page? 24.24.90.148 01:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User:TheUltimate3/Kekkei Genkai a archive, save the images. Merge the Byakugan with the Gentle Fist section, add the Sharingan, and probably move the Mokuton in the article and/or in the Yamato section.--TheUltimate3 02:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sharingan 

message: When was it said that "It has also been implied that use of the Mangekyo Sharingan may deteriorate the user's normal eyesight" ? Is it a speculation?
Tintor2 22:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: During the encounter between Itachi's clone and Kakashi's team, Kakashi asks Itachi how bad his eyesight has become shortly after a long discussion on Itachi's abilities with the Mangekyo Sharingan. Itachi's surprise, in addition to his following statement, which implies Itachi's knowledge of Kakashi's Mangekyo, solidifies this thought. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I read that chapter of manga in spanish, but from what Kakashi said I could only deduced that Itachi uses too much chakra for the Mangekyo. Tintor2 00:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you need to read a better translation. His eyesight is said to be failing. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mangekyo makes you blind? 

message: Given that I stumbled upon conception information for jutsu, this article could possibly have a GA run. That said, the biggest thing that needs to be found is reception. Merchandise of the characters performing jutsu, their presence in video games, and other media is one set of items. Reviews of individual episodes often comment on jutsu, and can be used to produce a reception section. As for the in-universe material, anything that isn't horribly necessary should be removed. The remaining material should be sourced. Mind you, Naruto manga; [chapter number], [page number] is not acceptable in this case. The relevant citation template is . However, the former method of citation is fine at the moment until it can be properly sourced. It at least allows us to verify where it is. Specifics can come later. Anyhow, we can get this to GA status. It simply will require a bit of effort. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 01:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what kind of reception there would be aside from offhand comments. Jutsu don't strike me as the type of thing any kind of publication would take a critical look at. Rasengan and/or Chidori might have received some peculiar analysis at some point in time, though I've no idea where that would be. In any event, I'd be happy to replace inadequate citations with  equivalents, or even look for inadequate citations to get the ball rolling. ~SnapperTo 04:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible GA run 

message: What happened to the image of the Sharingan? I think its one of the most important things of the series and Kakashi is always seen by his Sharingan. If we put the Kugutsu, the gentle fist stance, Mangekyo of Kakashi etc, why we dont use the image of the Sharingan? 
And I wanted to say that this page its better than that old list, so I retract of what I said before, speciallly yo Snapper that I said to him that.(offtopic)
Tintor2 10:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sharinwhere? 

message: Who the hell deleted the list of Jutsu??!! What is this crap??!! Are you fucking stupid or somethin??!! Wikipedia is shit now!! My grandmother would do better site than this fuckin piece of crap!! Fix this shit you fucking fools!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.14.40 (talk) 16:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) Be f-ing bold. It won't help you here but thats the reason this place is a Wiki. 2) No personal attacks. Really it makes you look like an idiot. 3) Learn to read what's already posted above. If you can't do steps 1-3, then I suggest moving on to step 4) Go to Leafninja.com they have all the jutsu's in their origianl japanese names--TheUltimate3 (talk) 16:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the fuck is that??!!??!! 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:ShinoBugXray.jpg 

message: If you merge articles (argh +,...+) you should correct all redirections. It's a bit strange when I type "Gamabunta" and it leads me here.--Deerstop (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirections.