Talk:Quicksilver (Marvel Comics)

message: It seems pretty silly to name this page Pietro Maximoff, which is not how anyone thinks of this character.  It should get moved to Quicksilver (comics) or something like that. mhr
* I moved the page from Pietro Maximoff to Quicksilver (comics). -mhr 02:26, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I took the end of Son of M to indicate that Quicksilver sees his place in the future, having those Terrigen powers, not that he has them now. This is opposite what is said in the article currently. --Chris Griswold 17:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that he can now induce Terrengenisis (or however it's spelt) in other people, whether there mutants or not, just like the crystals. As to if he fully restores people's powers or the same thing happens as in the SoM miniseries, that has yet to be seen. I personally think that he jumped to the end of Civil War (comics), and that what he saw (which may have included himself) damaged his mind further. Heck, he may have even seen his death. Which brings up the issue of if he really is time traveling, or just some facsimily, as in the Marvel Universe time travel creates alterate dimentions. JQF 00:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I am interested to see whether Quicksilver with the powers is from now or from the future. --Chris Griswold 07:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Bhissong is correct. And he can't jump backwards CG, only forwards and only temporarily. - SoM 03:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right...I didn't say he could. What I am saying is that Quicksilver talks about seeing his place in the future, and then it shows him in that future time. I took that to mean we were seeing what he was: a future version of himself. --Chris Griswold 03:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text:  The explanation he gives in Silent War is clear : there's an unseen scene in Son of M that we learn about in Silent War. After his weeks of exposure to the terrigen mists, he took the remains of the crystals and put them in the flesh of his chest, thus getting the ability to to induce Terrengenesis through touch. That means the "powers and abilities" section is wrong :  the crystals don't "grow out of his body", the bits we see are the ones he put there himself. I'm editing it.
Another thing : he states clearly that the future he can jump towards is the one that WILL happen, one that cannot be changed whatever one does. He tried to alter it, but always failed. 89.80.129.107 (talk) 11:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrigen powers in Son of M 

message: How does using present tense consistently more clearly differentiate between the past and the present-tense sections of a biographical document? I consider this to be counter-intuitive.  If one finds oneself referring to the past here and then the present and then the past, even moreso.  I look at the statement at the top of the main (bio) page and think that things have been dropped unside ip. Schissel | Sound the Note! 01:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About the "this document uses the past tense. ..." 

message: I've tidied up some of the newly added PH, most notably by leading with dates and using present tense. Culled an image as presentation-wise it was too much, and trimmed a few sentences with some POV, unnecessary tidbits and no sources.
Asgardian 09:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Tidy-up 

message: Asgardian and anonymous: Rather than endlessly reverting back and forth on this, how about a compromise? Since Quicksilver is generally well-known for his original superspeed power, why not include that in the infobox with the precursor "Formerly:"? --GentlemanGhost 01:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers 

message: That makes sense.  All depowered mutants on wikipedia have a description of the powers they had.  Just because he has new powers doesn't make his decades of fictional history irrelevant.  
Also, how does vibrating molecules get you time duplicates?  Or get you back from the future?  Isn't he just time traveling?  Where's the citation on that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.156.215 (talk) 00:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

message: Quicksilver is a character of literature.  His timeline is not nearly as important as the cultural impact of the literature of his appearances as a whole.  Therefore, if you are arguing that everything except his most "recent appearances" is irrelevant, you seem to be confusing him with a real person (and even real people have history in their entries).  Quicksilver has appeared in hundreds of comics using superspeed powers.  That is relevant.  It's what he is known for and what his name describes.  Deleting a few sentences about the character's historical description (while other characters currently depowered -- Magneto, for instance, or Protigy  -- retain desciptions of their historical character) is dubious, at best, and most likely clearly incorrect.  The total impact of Quicksilver as a character in comic literature is decades as a speedster mutant, and not whatever happened to him over the last months.  If anything should be shortened, therefore, it is the current status that may, in the end, be a blip in the character's total history.  So stop deleting.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.0.196.186 (talk) 18:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is all complete rubbish.  Quicksilver is not a speed character anymore.  He has lost that power, and the whole point of this site is to keep things up to date with what is CURRENT, and since he is no longer a speedster, it makes absolutely zero sense to keep talking about him as if he still is one.  And it is also completely unneeded to continue to go into detail about his powers as if he still has them when they no longer exist.  You also have no reason to say that what is currently going on will be nothing but a "blip" because you have no proof of that.  So until he either gets his speed powers back or gets new ones, then it is you who needs to stop changing the article to stuff that is no longer relevant.68.34.51.231 19:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: You do not run wikipedia.  You have zero right in saying what can and cannot be put up on the pages.  I, however, am going by every other thing that I have seen done by people who have actual clout around here.  Putting things up in their most current status is the normal practice of what to do.  For example, Chamber and Jubilee have always been known through their Generation X appearences, and her much longer before, especially her cartoon appearance, but recently they went through major overhauls, and their pages changed accordingly.  Jubilee is even arguably a more recognizable character than Quicksilver, yet I don't see you forcing them to keep her and Chamber's pages like their most recognizable forms.  Contradicting much?  I do not change Magneto's page because his status is very clearly up in the air right now as to whether or not he is truly depowered, so there is no one way to say it, so it's left as is, which is how things are done around here.  Maybe when you realize this site isn't your own personal playground, you'll catch on.68.34.51.231 01:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literature 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Quicksilver.png

message: The current image for Quicksilver seems very outdated and not very detailed. Does anyone argue that the image should be replaced with something more modern and more detailed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.137.34 (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a bad choice of image. I think I could get a better idea of Quicksilver's visual appearance by checking the article on Syndrome.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.178.141.62 (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New image?

message: I added information about the new Quciksilver miniseries, taken from the marvel publishing catatlogue.90.241.50.99 (talk) 18:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New miniseries

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replies: text: Done - it ticks all the boxes but I feel it doesn't contain enough out-of-universe material and it is that area that will need to be expanded for the article to progress further. (Emperor (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: OK...
So we had an uncredited, blurry mutant teathered to a cell... Adding anything based on that to this article is speculation at best, original research at worst.
Please, find a reliable, verifiable, secondary source that identifies the character as Quicksilver before adding it back in.
- J Greb (talk) 18:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Given how this seems to be a "Force the fan spec in" issue, the page is going to be semi protected for a few days to give people a chance to actually find that reference.
- J Greb (talk) 19:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolverine film 

message: 'In 2006, IGN named Quicksilver #23 on their list of "The Top 25 X-Men Of All Time" commenting that "Quicksilver was the shining example of a villain turned good."'
Will people please, please stop changing this. It is a quote. Quote's just don't get edited because time passes. Adding 'at the time' is not necessary and shouldn't be put in; of course the description is of the character in an earlier incarnation, it is from 2006.
If IGN made a comment that Wolverine was the best X-Man of 2010, then the quote won't be changed as time passes or if he quit, because the quote was made 2010.
If that was the case, then all of the introductory quotes on Magneto's claiming that Magneto is a villain should be changed to 'at the time', because he is now an X-Man. An example:
'Sir Ian McKellen portrayed Magneto throughout the entire X-Men film series. He was, at the time, ranked number 1 by IGN's Top 100 Comic Book Villains list, was listed number 17 in Wizard's Top 100 Greatest Villains Ever list, and was ranked as the 9th Greatest Comic Book Character Ever in Wizard's list of the 200 Greatest Comic Book Characters of All Time, the second highest villain at the time on that list.'
But, do we do that? No, because the quote was made at the time of his villainy, and as such remain. If Quicksilver has become a 'villain' then it does not change the fact that in 2006 IGN classed him as the 'shining example of a villain turned good', which was correct at the time and the quote shouldn’t be edited. 195.194.150.129 (talk) 16:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: IGN quote

message: Both Magneto and the Scarlet Witch are indexed under "Jewish Superheroes".  Shouldn't Quicksilver be, as well?  38.111.35.2 (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are they Jewish? I always had the impression that they were Roma. And after the Uncanny Avengers retcon, it's even more questionable.Nickpheas (talk) 12:13, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Magneto is most definitely Jewish, yes. “ Writer Chris Claremont stated that Menachem Begin was an inspiration for Magneto's development, as David Ben-Gurion was for Professor X … Before the publication of X-Men: Magneto Testament, Magneto's personal background and history were invented[22] in Uncanny X-Men #150 (Aug. 1981). He was portrayed as a Jewish Holocaust survivor; while searching for his wife Magda, a Sinti, Magneto maintained a cover identity as a Sinti.[3] This created confusion among some readers as to Magneto's heritage,[23] until his Jewish background was confirmed in Magneto: Testament.[1][24]“ — from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(Marvel_Comics)#Publication_history
tharsaile (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish? 

message: Said section is #3 in the contents, but #1&2 are so long that it appears halfway down the page.  I've never heard of the character until I saw the recent theatrical x-men clip; preceding said section, little mention of the high magnitude of his abilities are given beyond the over-simplified notion of 'extreme speed'.  In the case of the X-men, each character is largely defined by a single ability that should be a part of their relative introductions.  One should either move the powers above the large blocks of vague-context history, or expand the introduction to greater explain what seems to be one of the most powerful characters in comics, despite their seemingly trivial role in the flexy rainbow they call their 'multiverse'.  
**ED** I've surfed the articles of his siblings, and they suffer from the same issue.  [In fact, [Polaris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_(comics)) has her 'unique powers' description 3/4ths of the way down.  From what I've seen, 'comics' seem to follow the same template, so its' very likely this may very well be a mata-issue deserving of rephrasing beyond this specific article; i just don't know where to C&P this comment.
Ghostwo 09:27, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving the contents 'Powers and abilities' closer to the top. (probably better as a meta)

message: is Quicksilver part of the X-Men copyright? given his appearance in both movie and the copyright associated... who owns his character? can we have some legal information on him? 116.88.128.63 (talk) 03:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Avenger vs X-men 

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message: I think it should be Pietro Maximoff because it is his real name  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kravenger (talk • contribs) 03:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: He's had about four different 'real' names while maintaining the same superhero name for over 55 years. What will people actually search for?Nickpheas (talk) 15:59, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return of the Quicksilver 

message: Is there a source for his being Serbian? As far as I can remember he was generally said to be from a made up Balkan microstate. Transia or something like that?Nickpheas (talk) 18:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbian? 

message: The infobox refers to him as a "human mutate", but the page does not refer to this term anywhere else, and nor is there a citation for this distinction between "human mutant" and "human mutate." I'm going to remove this term in the hope that someone will restore it with a citation. Airbornemihir (talk) 02:29, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Airbornemihir (talk) 02:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mutate 

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