Talk:Iori Yagami/Archive 1

message: I was just wondering, if Iori's name should be added in the trivia part, since "iori" means hermitage (seeing that Iori is always a loner and more or less isolated from society by choice and because of his curse). I'm asking here, instead of just adding it in the article, since I'm not much of a KOF player... I've played it less than 10 times, and I don't know all that much about the character.
--Hecko 02:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iori's Name 

message: And he does it ignoring the reasons and more importantly, erasing the work of many people, including myself, Klantis, 305Prodigy, among many others that have contributed to this page.   
   
He has also vandalized my name in several articles by changing it's spelling. How can I report this to the moderators? can anybody tell me please?   
    
Now I'm going to reproduce a question that I made in his talk page. MegamanZero, this is going to be fun. I'd like you to tell me, please, if you know where the image "tears" comes from, specifically from what source, or where it is seen. Lantis don't tell him. MegamanZero you said: "This is where it gets surreal. That image simply depicts Iori crying or bleeding for some apparent reason; I can only speculate to the reason of its upload. Furthurmore, There's no mention of the pic's sembelence anywhere in the article."   
    
You use big words in vain. You lack the knowledge required to decide in this matter if you don't answer correctly. Take a look at the part of the "story" section where it is located. Do you seriously ignore where the pic comes from? BTW, a clue: all the pictures illustrate parts of the story, or parts of different moments of Iori's personality. TheOrgy 16:24, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: MegamanZero insists in changing arbitrarily the layout of the page to his likings

message: *The Old version, it doesn't contain needless amounts of quotes (which could go to wikiquotes) and the images in there are the only needed to explain the bare facts and concensus of the article. Also note that TheOrgy's version contains no subtitles on the pictures, meaning thier exsistence for being thier is WP:POV.-MegamanZero 17:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old version 

message: We don't need gigantic images cluttering the page. For the love of God, learn to use . — Phil Welch Katefan's ridiculous poll 18:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Voting is evil, and is quite assuredly not the way we do things on Wikipedia. I'm well within my rights to ignore it and go by rough working consensus and policy instead. — Phil Welch Katefan's ridiculous poll 18:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't even know MegamanZero, and I'm puzzled as to how I was roped into this. And the central issue in this—the number of images—is something I don't care about. But Wikipedia standards pretty clearly require quotes to be moved to Wikiquote, and the images were just too big for the layout to work well. — Phil Welch Katefan's ridiculous poll 18:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Phil here. K1Bond007 19:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't call him a friend, and at least I would affirm I didn't come here with any bias.  I've edited on the same articles as him a lot, thats all.  And it would be noted that we've probably disagreed/argued on things as often as we've come to a consensus.  The truth is the article is just quite vain and POV.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 19:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I clearly stated in the rules of the poll to add a comment with one's decision; and you have no authority to move anything I have written; it is vandalism. Please stop.-MegamanZero 21:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Image size, number, and placement, and quotes

message: As a person who knows nothing about Iori Yagami, I am an ideal person to comment on this page. The page itself is too large. I can get a general jist from the first paragraph that this Mr. Yagami is a videogame character from Kingo of Fighters. However, the rest of the article seems more of a story than a page where you can search for information.
It is bewildering large with a large number of pictures that haven't been shrunk to thumbnail size. The numbers in itself make this page unfriendly to dial-up users, of which I know there are many, having up until recently been one of them. Many of the pictures do not convey any information that the first one does not.
I don't like either version of the article and if I had the time and the knowledge (of which I have neither), I would re-organise the entire thing to fit the following template:
: *Introductory Paragraph
:: (already present)
: *Character Synopsis
: *Character History
: *Character Backstory
:: (Legend of the Yagami is too vague a title)
: *Character Personality
: *Games in which Character Appears
: *Trivia
: *See Also
: *External Links
: *References
I would also have a better choice of pictures. There should be only one of each game incarnation of Iori, one from each game in which he appeared and they should be thumbnails to make the page easier to load. In fact, this page is so horribly made I'm slapping a cleanup tag on it right now. Wolf ODonnell 19:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: One picture for each illeteration..?! Are you aware that there are multiple KOF games..? Almost as many MM games, Wolf..?-MegamanZero 19:21, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No one agreed on anything. You did. And speaking for myself, I did not say I wasn't not going to touch anything. Don't put words in my mouth. -MegamanZero 20:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: One example of something in more exess doesn't fix this.  If you do thinki thats exess, fix it.  If you think its okay, then find more than one example.  One example doesn't establish precedent.  Also, there is a difference between writing colorfully/with heart than there is to being inobjective.  As far as some musicians being regarded as the best unsupportedly then fix them if you want, but dont use it as an excuse to violate NPOV.  Its like "that man killed someone and didn't get convicted, so you can't convict me"  (sorry for the unoriginal example).  It doesn't work that way.  And regarding others of those musicians/bands, and establishing what's good and not, they have been cited by an authority of music, or by publicly aknowledged commitee to be good/great/the best/etc.  And I'm sorry, but as far as wikipedia is concerned, Objectiveness is the best way to write an article  You choose to be a part of the project and stand by those rules, if you don't agree with those rules, maybe you dont really want to be editing wikipedia.
The difference with the Naruto Character list is that one has one for each character. This article has several for each character. And if you're not writing objectively, then I might need to add some other tags, like the neutrality dispute tag. Wolf ODonnell 20:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup Needed