Talk:Jo O'Meara

message: Someone should add a picture of her for the article.I like Radiohead 15:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo

message: Added the verify tag in anticipation of similar disparaging comments made on other contestants' pages. Jammy Simpson |  Talk | 20:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Verify tag

message: Article reads: Formerly the lead singer of the group S Club 7, - Did they have a lead singer? MRSC • Talk 14:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone lately seems to be refering to her as "the voice of S Club 7", but I also thought there was no lead singer. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead singer

message: "This page could do with protection. It seems to be getting as much abuse as the other BB articles" - What a load of nonsense. To all the "I love Jo" Do-Gooders out there - you can't silence the masses. Jo O'Meara is one of the most hated people in the UK at the moment, and quite frankly deserves all the criticism she gets. To all the Wikipedia "Moral Guardians" who feel that you have to remove an edit that is deemed remotely offensive - you can't stop the truth. Whether an individuals feelings on Jo O'Meara be bad or good, they have a RIGHT TO BE SAID - As I say, you can't silence the masses, and if comments on O'Meara get removed from Wikipedia, then there are PLENTY of other Websites out there who would quite happily post criticising comments. Get off your high horse Wikipedia "Guardians" - don't censor the truth.
:Sure, criticism is allow, providing it is sourced and legitimate. But this is meant to be a biographical account, not a hate site where you can post up insults. Please go away and write a blog. Stop vandalising this website.--Conjoiner 10:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Please go away and write a blog. Stop vandalising this website." Hear hear. Why don't you try channeling your anger into a more productive activity, rather than trying to destroy the work of everyone who edits this website. LibLord 14:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: "At the end of the day, I know I am right." You are completely missing the point, oh wise one. Wikipedia is not about right and wrong. Wikipedia is about truth, and truth that's always documented in an encyclopedic manner. If you ever get tired of campaigning for racial equality, please take a look at Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. And for the record, regardless of what you "see yourself" as, for as long as you are making unwanted edits to this article, you are a vandal. Please get yourself a better hobby. LibLord 20:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Frankly, I'm not interested in judging this woman. I am interested in maintaining a decent article that states the facts objectively. Certainly, the libel you have posted up are not allowed. What you are doing is contrary to the rules of this website. If you won't work within the rules, then don't edit here. Run your own website or blog to vent your anger there. This is meant to be an encyclopaedia and what you are doing is undermining that work. As I said, go away and shout somewhere else. Or this page will be protected from anonymous editing and you will be blocked from editing. It is not a request, it is laying down the law.--Conjoiner 20:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Further comments on protection of this page

message: What does that mean? I've never heard that phrase used before to describe this. It sounds like a euphemism or compromised phrase for 'racist comments'. Let's not allude to things - either say outright or not at all. Lets be more clear, and pop a citation in too. MRSC • Talk 15:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is debateable whether her comments were racist or just ignorant, hence "allegedly".--Conjoiner 15:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Even a little child knows what they are doing. Jo O'Meara is a highly successful business woman. However, it should be pointed out that she is a minor player, and not in the same category and the ringlinder, Danielle Lloyd. Wallie 07:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 'allegedly racial sentiments'

message: Surely she has been accused of classist rather than elitist remarks - I have made this change in the article. I don't think we could find a source alleging elitism, but for classism -  Trevor Phillips: "What we are seeing is a noxious brew of old-fashioned class conflict, straightforward bullying, ignorance and quite vicious racial bigotry," (quoted in Danielle Lloyd article). Saluton 00:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Jo's part in "elitism" or "classism" is debatable. Elitism is more appropriate, as it implies the speaker is above the recipient of the abuse. Classism works both ways. Wallie 14:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Classism

message: I think that Jo's main involvement is to "go along" with the attitudes of Danielle and Jade. If she is guilty of this, then everyone else in the house is too, as NOT ONE of the others stuck up for Shilpa. Her comments about the food being undercooked are hardly bullying etc., as it may have been undercooked. She could have kept her opinions to herself, though, as Shilpa was doing her best. I do think that Jo is not in the same league as (unrepentant) Danielle, the leader, or the very loud Jade. Wallie 14:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it? I think it is the truth. How can you compare a minor criticism of Indian food against the dreadful statements made by Lloyd, and not say she played a minor part. Are you trying to be factual or are just trying to nail Miss O'Meara? Wallie 20:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor role or major role?  Bear in mind she said Indians are sick all the time because they don't cook properly

message: Not particularly a sub-section which points the racist card, but more lists the racist remarks she has made to Shetty. I have a few but I haven't watched the episodes so there may as well be more. They have something similar for Shetty's wiki page. Unsigned User
Both of the pages of the other two participants have subsections devoted to the issue. It would seem appropriate to add one here.Buyo 01:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard that too - a butterfly tattoo, but it's a butterfly in the shape of a swastika. 172.209.90.158 17:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Subsection?  Or change the name of this article to "Jo O'Meara: unrepentent racist pig"?

message: "I'M NOT SORRY AND I'D DO IT AGAIN," she says, defending her comments about Indians being skinny saying: "They should take what I said as a compliment."  See here and judge for yourselves:  http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=exclusive-bb-jo%2D-i%2Dm-not-sorry-and-i%2Dd-do-it-again%26method=full%26objectid=18541354%26siteid=62484-name_page.html
:I think she may have picked this idea up from someone/somewhere else, and just blurted it out. Of course it is a silly statement, and I hope she has learnt something. By the way, I do know some fat Indians too... (need to lose some weight myself...). Wallie 13:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if it was just "blurted out" - the above statement was part of an interview she gave to a newspaper some time after leaving the house.  It was to clarify that she meant her previous statements, rather than a moment in which she wasn't being lucid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.37.7.247 (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: She is racist, but like all proper racists she just doesn't know it because she is stupid

message: Best of all would be to remove Jo O'Meara's wiki page.  She is racist (DEEPLY, UNAPOLOGETICALLY RACIST) and a bad influence on potential fans.  She should get out of the limelight, and this page taken down.  She has no right to be immortalised to such an extensive degree.
* No, we need to report on the truth. Jo's vileness is there for all to see. She has betryaed all those who stuck by her and continued to buy her albums and singles. Also note that her agent died on Sunday, sending her into further depression (it was on Teletext page 140 today). I think her career is in ruins anyway, she only was successful in S Club becuase the likes of Rachel and Tina were more attractive for the boys. She is also heavily in debt.
** What a catty statement. Wallie 13:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Being racist is not one of the criteria for deleting pages. If anything, the Big Brother controversy only makes her even more notable. If you are still interested in having the page deleted, follow the instructions at WP:AFD. Tra (Talk) 22:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: TO TRUE! What a bunch of hypocrites! The Sun spews out racism every second day, and then says that it is against racism. Some of the staff there would make excellent politicians. Wallie 13:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Just take this page down

message: Allegedly has been posting over the past couple of days on the offical C4 Celebrity Big Brother forum under the name of "9791MOJ" (her initials and birthyear written backwards). Uncomfirmed if it is the actual person herself tho, a close friend or family member, or just an obsessive fan. Originally there was a long post made by this person (now removed), where on 3 or more parts they "slipped up" and would change from typing "Jo" "her" "she" etc to typing "me" and "I" etc. Has posted a few things on there that she has then gone on to say in interviews in newspapers and magazines afterwards. A copy of the original post by "her" on there (complete with contradictions) can be found below. Journo1977 23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This could possibly be added if it was confirmed by another source, e.g. a newspaper or a website. A forum post on its own, however, is not a reliable source. Even if it was confirmed, it probably shouldn't be added as posting on a forum is not something very notable. Tra (Talk) 22:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that it is fair enough to add this comment, after all, there are some highly suspect comments previously, which are unopposed, amongst calling Jo "vile", which to my mind is way over the top. The truth is probably that Jo didn't play this game of being under constant scrutiny very well. The treatment of Shilpa may be borderline racism - the above text said "Jo was irritated by Shilpa and didn't get on so well". Is this due to a different culture? Maybe. However, I do not believe that Jo is fundamentally a bad person, and the facts should be pointed out in this article in a balanced way, not just going after someone, as it is trendy or because we hate them. Wallie 13:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shit, that's such an obvious troll post I can't believe anyone would actually fall for it. I've seen several of these type of posts made recently by alleged "Jo-supporters", who then include a few (deliberate) errors to give the false impression that it's actually Jo. Every single one of those statements had already been made by genuine Jo-fans before Jo even left the house, so they weren't a surprise when Jo said them in interviews. It's just some kid trying to wind people up. It appears he's done extremely well if people are propogating that dumb post over the internet (ie Wikipedia) 172.159.118.187 20:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've definitely seen that statement before, either in one of O'Meara's fan sites, or on Digital Spy - but I have definitely seen it before!  Jaycey 16:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Posting on forums?

message: Given her recent GMTV and Sky Television interviews, it might be a good idea to include some write-up on her apparent psychological instability.  She had a panic attack in the house, as was shown, too.  In the Sky interview [which was horrid, the interviewer was leading her on] she admitted contemplating suicide.  Sky News Interview  --Bigdaddyhame 18:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone should make judgements on her mental health, but just report the facts as they stand. I watched the Sky News interview in which she said she had been told she was "not well" and was scared of mirrors and helicopters. However, I don't think it is necessary to claim this is a "mental collapse" - she might quickly recover or, if you want to be deeply cynical, she could be exagerrating her problems to attract public sympathy. It is not for us to decide.--Conjoiner 19:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impending mental collapse 

message: This section:
O’Meara never intended to offend anybody, and she never had the intention of harming Shilpa despite what many people thought. Jo's real personality was not shown, the Celebrity Big Brother Crew manipulated and edited the videos to made fake situations, an example of this is that in the her Eviction night, she hugged Shilpa in two times, which was not show in the TV broadcast.
In a Heat Magazine interview O’Meara said love after the show was a "living hell" and she couldn’t go to her house, being enclosed in a hotel for weeks. To make matters worse, her first interview after the show was also edited and this did little to help her image.
At this time, she suffered phobias with helicopters and mirrors, and she had to take medication (like Prozac). In some interviews she was asked that if she had tried to commit suicide, she denied this, but later in another interview with “The News of The World” she admitted that she had.
Putting words in her mouth isnt it ? Not exactly the neutral viewpoint that wikipedia usually takes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.219.186 (talk) 12:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias of the article?

message: I have removed the suicide claims as she has denied that she has done it. Please only post facts rather than making this a bias article to sympathize with her racist comments. This is not a bloody magazine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.121.124 (talk) 04:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed suicide claims 

message: In this section I changed "verbal attack on Shilpa by Jade" to "argument between Shilpa and Jade".  I felt it was unfair to refer to the incident as a "verbal attack" because: a) Rude and deliberately hurtful things were said by both Jade and Shilpa. and b) The exchange was started by Shilpa.  I think it's sort of slanderous to say that Ms. O'Meara said that "the verbal attack had made her day and she felt better for it"  Madritor (talk) 22:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording in "Accusations of racist bullying" section 

message: Jo O'Meara was born in the LONDON BOROUGH OF HAVERING in the ceremonial county of GREATER LONDON. Romford/Ilford have not been in the County of Essex since 1965. This is an ENCYLOPAEDIA, based on facts not opinions. Stop reverting to out of date information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.194.160.45 (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  East London vs Essex 

message: "A 20-year old white man was arrested, and the attack was thought to have been motivated by her Celebrity Big Brother antics (the city being well known for its Asian community)." 
This should be edited, maybe the person was drunk and thought they were crap, unless we have more info, lets stick to the facts. SoWhatIsThis (talk) 06:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it has been nine days and no comment, I will remove "(the city being well known for its Asian community)" as this adds nothing and implies racism, we don't need that here. SoWhatIsThis (talk) 04:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

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