Talk:David Mayer de Rothschild

message: I have added tags "non-encyclopaedic", "copy-paste" and "cleanup-spam" because the section "Adventure Ecology" looks like it was clearly copied-and-pasted from some sort of promotional website of that organisation.  For example, though some links have been added to names of countries, the sentence:
"To undertake the Plastiki expedition Adventure Ecology was not only influenced by the principles of 'cradle-to-cradle’ design and biomimicry but brought together a multi faceted team from the fields of sustainable design, boat building, architecture and material science in order to foster a collection of new ideas and cutting edge technologies that allow the Plastiki to be a truly unique one of a kind expedition vessel."
...is (a) obviously biased and (b) should link to "sustainable design", "architecture", "materials science", "biomimicry" etc etc.  And it would link to them, if it had actually been written by someone writing a Wikipedia article, rather than copy-and-pasting from some promotional Adventure Ecology site.
Liquidcentre (talk) 11:23, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-encyclopaedic style

message: I would like to add that I posted the Alex Jones link and it was removed right away, at least as quick as the next day. It is not fair to use censorship on Wikipedia as Primerica is doing. They called me and said to come interview with Citigroup and it turned out to be a brainwash pyramid scheme. The same is happening here. It is a POV that a link to this interview/debate should not be posted on Wiki. Removal of this, I strongly feel, is censorship. 
-friend
To be quite frank, it was not a notable argument, and it was simply a slip up. We don't have Donald Rumsfeld speech where he says "shot down" one of the flights on 9/11, or any of the many GWB slip ups are not on his article, either. Kevin (talk) 02:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of information

message: I don't think it's an relevant issue to the biography. Firstly David De Rothschild was being sarcastic when referring to Jupiter and Mars being closer to the sun. Secondly, the carbon tax issue was not controversial. If this wiki says that Mr Rothschild believed in a carbon tax, then you most do the same with every other person on wikipedia who stated the believed in a carbon tax to fight global warming. Many people believe in a carbon tax, however unless the person is a strong advocate for it, someone who would be in the carbon tax wiki itself. There is no need to have it in his wiki for stating he believed it.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.139.200 (talk) 01:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alex Jones Link 

message: I think it may be worth adding a section devoted to David Mayer's acknowledgment of and position on being a Rothschild. Particularly, his acknowledgment of the criticism that comes along with being a Rothschild and an environmentalist. I'm new to Wikipedia editing, but perhaps this article Outside Magazine could be used as a reference / starting point. Particularly this quote: 
 "Some people will always make the assumption ‘There's a rich guy, a Rothschild; he paid a guide, the world's fucked, and who cares?' " he says. "But I could sit there and do nothing or use my name and do something."
--Trevc63 23:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, there should be something about that and i think it would improve the article. IamMcLovin 23:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Sounds good, I'll look forward to reading it! IamMcLovin 22:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Being 'A Rothschild' 

message: You keep deleting this section saying that I need to provide sources!? I provide 5 sources with documented facts.
David Rothschild made a complete fool out of himself telling radio host Alex Jones on July 6th 2007 that the planets of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are closer to the Sun than planet Earthwww.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/090707closertosun.htmhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4891699310483983031&q=alex+jones+david+rothschild&total=23&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0. Al Gore together with Rothschild have also been criticised for using the real environmental problems of Earth to promote a global carbon tax and a one-child policy (and in a larger context: a one world government) as a solution for their orchestrated man-made global warming problemwww.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/090707_b_fraud.htmwww.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/211207_b_gore.htmwww.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/130207Warming.htm
Screwed-n-chopped  —Preceding comment was added at 01:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop drinking the cool-aid, dude. Kevin (talk) 23:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey! Maybe you should try it. Your candidate's "spiritual mentor" is a Jew-hating, faux-"Christian" Black supremacist. --Hereward77 (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He isn't the candidate, is he? Kevin (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

text: People and the friends they keep? Ron Paul is God's test for America, and America will be punished for its wilful ignorance. --Hereward77 (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: May I remind you that Wikipedia is not a forum. I feel compelled to add, against my better judgement, that I'm rather baffled that you can derive such a belief. Do you sincerely believe an "omnipotent entity" would conceive of aligning itself with a nation, group or individual? Some of the greatest atrocities and injustices have been enabled by people exclaiming: "trust me, this is what god demands, this is what god wants". No rational human being should countenance such arguments. SoLando (Talk) 20:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was Kevin who initiated this slanging match with his lazy "cool-aid" jibe. But you have made your political inclinations clear to me. You appear to be using this as a forum also. --Hereward77 (talk) 23:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: This thing needs some refs William M. Connolley (talk) 14:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Still true William M. Connolley (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: But encyclopedic? 
"...an organization that harnesses the power of dreams, adventures and stories in order to inspire, educate and engage individuals, communities and industry to become agents of change"
"...a group that included a high profile artist, photographer, filmmaker and scientist. The group spent time in the Ecuadorian rain forest, documenting the damage international oil companies had caused by drilling the vast oil reserves, which disturbs the natural and social order."
Not really surprised, however, that anyone who champions the "environmental" movement is beyond reproach and criticism.
18.248.6.245 (talk) 09:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOFIXIT William M. Connolley (talk) 10:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice glowing praise... 

message: The Plastiki article is not notable enough to merit a standalone article, but has materiel that could be useful in this article, so I propose a merge. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 23:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Plastiki expedition has been covered by major news outlets including CNN, the BBC and National Geographic.  The vessel itself and the purpose of the journey is more interesting than Mr. Rothschild.  Certainly there are many more people interested in environmentalism, sailing, and sustainable design than in this person.  For that reason, I have re-focused the article onto the ship herself.  I think the suggestion of merging should be dropped from the Plastiki page. TDuVal (talk) 21:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting is not the same as notability. -- 71.223.127.190 (talk) 07:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Notability (from your link) comes from "Significant coverage" by "Reliable" "Sources" that are "Independent of the subject".  All of those criteria are met with this vessel which has been covered by CNN and the BBC.  I know this only "presumes" notability, but, on top of that, the voyage was featured on the English WP front page on April 1, 2010.  So, can we remove the merge suggestion now? TDuVal (talk) 06:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, for now. It's hard to say currently what it's impact will be over time; if there are significant lasting effects of the vessel's construction &/or the proposed voyage, then it meets notability requirements, but it's a bit too early to apply that standard. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 19:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plastiki merge

message: http://www.australiamatters.com/david_rothschild.html
Can someone please add a criticism section? I search the internet for David Rothschild and I find this wiki, his personal webpage, followed by thousands of articles about him that all negative. Reading through the talk page it seems there have been many attempts to add criticism to this page and all have been removed without reason. Note that disliking "Alex Jones" does not have anything to do with the rules of wiki.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.165.8 (talk) 21:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carbon Tax 

message: I agree with what 24.108.139.200 said in that this article needs a criticism section, but that the Alex Jones part is unnecessary. When I was researching to improve that section, references to the incident were very few and far between. It clearly was not a large-scale thing. — GorillaWarfare talk 06:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: BLP's do not need or require criticism or controversy sections, and I've removed this one as it is not relevant or based on a RS. Viriditas (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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