Talk:View Askewniverse

message: This article needs serious work, so I added it to the cleanup list.  It's a fairly important and oft-linked-to article, but right now it's a mass of incoherent lists, incomprehensible writing, in-jokes and unexeplained references and abbreviations, which makes it of limited use to anyone not already well-versed in the films (like, say, me).  I'll do what I can, but I think someone more expert that me is going to have to come along if we want to turn this into a decent article. --Misterwindupbird 00:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: cleanup tag added

message: * i don't think so.  I can't think of a notable reference to suggest it is a motif.  Jay and Silent Bob smoke but I can't think of any other characters that do.  The only other reference involves Dante and Randal at the quick stop in both Clerks and Jay & Silent Bob Strike back.  In Dogma, it almost seems like the issue's avoided to some degree: i'd imagine the mooby empire could have much easier been done to a cigarette company or something but it wasn't.--Torourkeus 13:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire principle cast of Chasing Amy smokes. SChaos1701 (talk) 20:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should smoking be added to the motifs? 

message: Randal mentions carbonite when in jail in Clerks ii. Han Solo was frozen in carbonite. Somebody please elaborate on this and add it to the main page when ready.
Well should it?--Greasysteve13 06:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Star Wars Motif

message: *I thought Jersey Girl was outside of the View Askewniverse. --Torourkeus 17:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jersey Girl

message: "The View Askewniverse is centered on the towns of Leonardo and Red Bank, both located in Monmouth County, central New Jersey."
Wasn't it Asbury Park?
82.176.211.33 23:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

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message: Why are films and television shows that are not part of the View Askewniverse listed within these sections?  At least they should be moved to a Reference section. --Joe Christl 15:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a part of the View Askewniverse 

message: Um, so, the list of Motifs was deleted. Any chance of bringing it back to the main page? --Scorp Stanton (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motifs (agian) 

message: Is very, very much not cannon and should be moved to that section as well as removed from the table. -MichiganCharms (talk) 14:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Animated Series 

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message: My position: the 'recurring characters' section should not be blanked/removed from the article in favor of the casting article.  The recurring characters section is preferable in that it documents the recurrence of characters in the different films within the universe, which is appropriate for a wiki page about the story universe itself -- and, as well, the table supplementarily documents which crew repeated the same behind-the-scenes roles from film to film.  The 'casting' article that is suggested to be superior only uses 'X's documenting the recurrence of actors (and actors only).  Further, some actors listed in this page's 'recurring characters' section are not even present on the casting page held out to be superior.
:Well, why not incorporate the information in your table with the casting article instead of insisting that it be in this article?  That would be a very constructive compromise and would keep this article clean and trim. DP76764 (Talk) 00:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the film universe in which the characters created by Kevin Smith inhabit.  Documenting said characters' appearance in the universe is not only appropriate to, but an intrinsic element of, an article on said universe.  Additionally, casting is a word that restricts a subject matter to actors.  The table thoroughly documents the recurrence of behind-the-scenes roles that individuals have performed (i.e., producer, director, writer, editor, D.P.).  For these reasons, moving this data to a separate casting article strikes me as an entirely poor move. 207.181.228.210 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Resignation of position. I can't believe I let myself get sucked into this again.  Do whatever you like.  I was pissed off that you came along and completely wiped out about 90 minutes' worth of work on the article without even so much as a token "hey, this is what I think, let's come to a consensus", and, you know what?  Prior experience should have taught me that this is the result of actually investing any substantial amount of time into improving Wikipedia.  The place is a sinkhole: infighting defeats everything, and absorbs hundreds of manhours of time that need to go elsewhere anyway.  Do whatever you like.  I'm back to occasional typo patrol. 207.181.228.210 (talk) 16:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Merit Itself

message: That article had no consensus at AfD. It's unsourced, and it was proposed that it be merged here at the AfD. Is this a good way to deal with this content? Fences&Windows 17:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge of [[Characters of View Askewniverse]]?

message: #Clerks the Animated Series is not canon and should not be treated as such. The laws of it's reality are clearly different from that of the rest of the Askewniverse, if such laws exist. (Let us not forget that it's hard to tell what the series itself accepts as it's own canon, as one episode has a Duck Amuck-esque ending, another has multiple endings, and yet a third has the episode hijacked by the overseas animators.) If this is not enough evidence, let us not forget that the same episode with the Duck Amuck-esque ending began with the characters attending a fan convention for the film as guest speakers. If, hypothetically, the film and show are in the same continuity, then the film itself would not exist in much the same way depicting The Simpsons merchandise in Futurama (and vice-versa) set them in different canons. Therefore, it should be removed from this article or at least moved to the "Non-canon" section and taken off the "frequent cast" table. On that note...
# Due to the listing of crew credits as well as cast credits, the table in that section is hard to read. I suggest relocating the crew information into a separate table to make things less muddled.
I am leaving this open to discussion. I assure you a consensus will be reached before I make these changes. (That being said, the motifs section was informative and should be reinstated, as should a separate section for in-jokes. Things like hockey and Star Wars are motifs, things like 37 and 90% of Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back are in-jokes. Perhaps, in light of J&SBSB, delegating the in-jokes to the individual film pages might be a better idea.) 
:Tenk you veddy much.  --Wack'd Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork! 02:17, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three major points: 

message: Smith has recently stated that the "Askewniverse" may be effectively abandoned as he feels the Jay and Silent Bob characters may be played out, and citing his desire to move forward in his career.
this is a quote to which i cannot follow the link.
whattup with dat? LazyMapleSunday (talk) 03:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  quote in leader potentially whack 

message: The chart of "Recurring actors" is messed up as someone went and added production credits, which have nothing to do with actors. As a result, things like the reference to Smith's second character cut from Clerks I is rendered very hard to read. I tried to remove this stuff but just ended up messing up the chart format. All references to writer, producer, etc need to go - this chart is for acting roles only. 70.72.221.229 (talk) 00:50, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart needs to be fixed

message: You've redirected this page here but there is absolutely no mention of Mooby on this page anywhere at all.  
68.170.222.129 (talk) 12:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: So You Redirected Mooby the Golden Calf Here

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: With Jay and Silent Bob featuring in Moose Jaws, and with said film existing in the same universe as Tusk and Yoga Hoosiers, should not all three at least be mentioned here? One could argue they are fully part of the View Askewniverse.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:160:E748:0:0:0:A100:D293 (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  True North Trilogy 

message: The film Vulgar, while not a Kevin Smith movie, mentions Walt Flanagan's dog canonically. Should there be a mention of Vulgar as a potentially-connected film?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.187.196 (talk) 23:23, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vulgar 

message: Should Zack and Miri retroactively be added to the list? Smith has said Justin Long's character in Reboot, who is unnamed, is meant to be Brandon St. Randy, but couldn't be called that for legal reasons. So he doesn't get a name at all.--Aresef (talk) 19:04, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zack and Miri