Talk:Orochimaru (Naruto)/Archive 1

message: He doesn't have one? Well, when he's disguised as the Grass Ninja, he certainly has one... maybe they're the same? Best to assume that until we know there will be different roles... Tyciol 09:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English Voice Actor

message: Does anyone know where I could find this guy? I'm thinking of moving him wherever he is under village of Sound... Tyciol 09:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Amachi/Amachii, the Mad Scientist

message: Is the comparison to MJ and Voldemort really necessary?
I think it's fine. Is the comparison to his theme and Bach's Toccatta and Fugue in D minor neccessary?
The comparison is not necessary because Naruto was made in Japan!  Japan!!!  And MJ and Voldemort are from America. Some people imply that they're copying eachother (Voldemort and Orochi that is) but thats impossible!  Comparisons not needed, they are just similar!!!  No one else try and counter this because its useless!   -Demyx111
Voldemort is british, you half-brained twit!
Where I certainly do not think Orochimaru was based off Voldemort, the fact that they were made in different countries does not even remotely make it impossible for them to copy each other, seeing as many series are released internationally. However, the ideas of having antagonistic characters resemble snakes in fiction and characters seeking immortality seem to predate both characters, and due to the lack of other similarities amoung thier characters, I would say it is highly unlikely that the characters copy each other. The Michael Jackson comparisons are completely ridiculous. As for Toccata and Fugue in D minor, bear in mind that a character from Salor Moon uses that exact peice as a personal theme, and the similarities between Orochimaru's theme and Bach's work seem too great to be coincidental.
True, true. I downloaded both songs and one part sounded the same between both of them. And maybe you're right, besides, Orochimaru came from Japanese legend and snakes have always been a symbol of immortality, so that doesn't mean Voldemort is who Orochi was based on. I noticed the similarity to MJ, but the fact that he wasn't guilty and doesn't control giant snakes makes it seem a little unlikely too.
Hey, Why do you guys believe that it's just a coincidence with these people. but you dn't believe that it's a coincidence with disney's the lion king, and pirates of the caribbean and Osama Tezuki(Who's The Founder Of The Animation that Naruto is.)'s Kimba The White Lion, And Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island. Why do you believe that rowling didn't copy Nancy Stouffer's Larry Potter, and that naruto didn't copy harry potter (or Dragon Ball z.)butyou believe that disney copied kimba the white lion, and others. Why do you believe that scar, Davy jones And barbossa and others are copies of claw and others but not that orochimaru is a copy of voldemort. I'm Asking, why does naruto and harry potter get away with this and the disney films don't? (I'll sign up soon, so don't do anything. i promise.).
*Voldemort and Orochimaru are pretty much stereotypical power-mad don't-wanna-die villains. JuJube 22:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  And both have serpent based powers, as the snake revolves around evil(western) and life(some eastern myths; the Oroboros). Fractyl 19:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia comparisons 

message: how does orochimaru plan on get'in imortality?--Geterdone 16:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His mind and sould are transferred into a new host body and for a short period of time he developes the new host bodie's facial features. Then he rips off the skin and gets back his old facial features. Orochimaru12 03:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  imortality 

message: Is any explaination given for Orochimaru's inhuman appearance (slit pupils, pale skin, facial markings)in the manga? Also, when he transfers his soul into another host, does his new body develop these traits, and if so, how?--66.24.224.205 20:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is said that the eyes are the mirrors of the soul, so that would kinda explain how he appears to transfer his eyes from container to container. As for the rest of him, I'm pretty sure it's some kind of genetical trait, like Shodai's mokuton ninjutsu, or a unique character trait, like Kisame's shark-like appearence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.208.27.19 (talk) 17:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: What's wrong with having a snake-like enemy? as for the pale skin, well. its probably just how he was born, but hey, he is a sannin. there are things that are unexplained, like jiraiya's facial markings, or tsunade's ability to enhance her strength by concentrating chakra into her hands. - Hyuuga-sama 21:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance 

message: Those three giant snakes summoned to destroy Konoha... ... did they have three heads, or were they really three snakes? Also can all three be summoned again? – Dragonball1986
:Three snakes and yes. Orochimaru does so twice. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 17:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It had three heads. Or else it wouldnt have been destroyed by Jiraiya's Destroying Food Cart Technique. If it were three snakes at least two of them would have slithered away. Orochimaru12 03:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orochimaru's gigantic snkaes 

message: If we're going to put him in that category, we might as well put everyone that knows the Transformation Jutsu there too, because they also "shapeshift" to an "extent". The only shapeshifting I've seen the guy do is wearing other's faces, which I don't think qualifies. Treima 01:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He doesn't, he mostly uses a form of disguise that uses skin to attach to his face. In fact, Orochimaru's wears a mask modeled after his original body, likely to fit his intent on being immortal. Fractyl 19:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Orochimaru shapeshifting?

message: Kabuto applies his blood to this to summon the Kyodaijia then subsequently Manda to battle Jiraiya/Gamabunta and Tsunade/Katsuyu as at the time Orochimaru's arms were still sealed and he couldn't do it himself.  Does anyone know if this tattoo is present on his current body (Gen'yumaru)?  BrokenSphere 20:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Logic suggests he would duplicate it, but no, we don't know. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I find it odd that this feature of his is not mentioned in the article.  BrokenSphere 20:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text:  I'm thinking of adding this line and image as the second sentence of the paragraph that starts with "Orochimaru's appearance..."  The image is a bit large but shows the tattoo nicely.  Thoughts?  BrokenSphere 18:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Line cut per fair use guidelines and being stuck in article. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: There's just something about the location of the arm tattoo image that I don't like. Ideally the pic of Team Sarutobi should come first, but then I can't find a good place for the other pic. --Pentasyllabic 22:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He does still have the tatoo on his arm. He wouldnt need to duplicate it. When he gets a new body he removes the facial features of the new body and gets his old body back which gives him back his tatoo. Orochimaru12 18:15, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summoning tattoo on his left forearm

message: This page seems to be subject to several cases of vandalism. Is there a tag that can be placed to note that this page is often vandalized and should be watched carefully? – 68.209.169.2 22:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we just deal with it as it comes. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 22:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The locks are only for problematic pages. Vandalism here is tame. People just don't know how to stop on the Akatsuki page. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

text: You can view every single edit made on every single page anywhere, so yes. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: :why is it forbidden to kill a sannin????? - Hyuuga-sama 21:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoever said that? I don't think killing a Sannin would have any repercussions outside of what would happen if you killed a regular scrub, except you'd get worldwide renown for killing one of the strongest ninja in existence. Treima 01:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I think the only persecution you would recieve from trying to kill a sannin would be getting killed by that sannin in return, due to their amazing power.QuietDrive627 01:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  forbidden 

message: Someguy0830 says that Earth Clone isn't notable enough to be a signature jutsu of his. I disagree. We had our little edit war over it earlier today . I mean, c'mon! Where is it said that we can't list signature abilities that appeared in the anime only? He used it three times, just as he used Hidden Shadow Snake a total of three times so far. Leech All Creation jutsu was used a total of three times also so far, the Summoning Technique: Snakes was used about three-five times so far (if you include the parts where Kabuto summoned the snakes for him) and others such as the Soft Physique Modification was used three times. And Someguy0830 says, "No, it was an anime move so it doesn't count!" Can someone help out here? I wanna solve this stupid dispute now... Power level (Dragon Ball) 01:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can anyone help out here?! Power level (Dragon Ball) 07:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Patience is a virtue. Also, generally the manga is the canon, if something is anime-only then it doesn't really count. Retlor 21:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Says who? Power level (Dragon Ball) 08:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The anime is a derivative work, based on the manga by Kishimoto. Therefore if things are added in the anime they aren't canon until referenced in the manga. Look on Sasuke's page for example. Lion combo, which he has used ONCE, is a signature move. That is because it is in the manga. Peregrine falcon drop, which he has used TWICE, is not a signature move. That is because it was only used in the anime. The only exception I can think of is Hinata's 'protection of the eight-trigrams sixty four palms.' I don't think it should be an exception, but her gaining it was a key event in the anime, and only she knows it. Earth clone, meanwhile is a throwaway jutsu probably known by most of Iwagakure. Including it would be like including subsitution jutsu under Sakura's page because she used it three times. Retlor 11:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  GOD IN HEAVEN!!! Don't dicuss canonicity on Wikipedia. There are way too many disputes about what is canon and isn't. I understand what you're tryin' to say, Hinata Hyuga shouldn't have the anime moves either then if Orochimaru can't have his, which he used at least three to four times. I'll remove the filler techniques then from Hinata. Power level (Dragon Ball) 19:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And I'll revert you. Retlor made his argment clear, and more eloquently than I could have hoped. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 19:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Chillax. No need to jump the gun while there's a relevant discussion taking place. - Ojaxis 03:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

text: It has nothing to do with canon. The question is whether or not a jutsu is unique and/or used often enough to warrant listing. Earth Clone is not unique as it is is simply one of the many clone jutsu used to make the series seem more diverse. And given that it's an anime jutsu, I'd imagine it's not used very often, so Earth Clone doesn't meet either criteria. And before someone jumps the gun and starts removing most of the jutsu from, say, Zabuza's article, the number of times a jutsu is used really only applies to characters whose jutsu arsenal reaches the 'teens, such as Orochimaru. ~SnapperTo 00:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok i guess i see what your saying, but personally i still dont like the setting of just listing signature jutsu. i like the old ways better when they listed all of the ninja's jutsu. it was much more informative to me.QuietDrive627 01:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth Clone Technique being a signature ability of his 

message: There used to be sooooo many techniques of Orochimarus posted on the page! What happened to them! I mean, he did have and used all of the techniques, did he not, sooo why take it off? i know its only signature techniques, but the impure world ressurection technique is on there and he only uses it once so there is my point. please discuss so i can be proven right or wrong.QuietDrive627 21:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think your totally right. I agree completely. What happened? There were so many! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orochimaru12 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that if Impure World Resurrection jutsu should be listed,  then the Earth Clone Technique should be listed as well, at least for now until the anime covers more of the new manga. Who agrees with me that all of the techniques that a character has used in Naruto (except for the fundamental ones like Clone Jutsu, Replacement Jutsu, etc.,) should be re-added back in their main articles? Power level (Dragon Ball) 04:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I completely agree. im with you all the way.QuietDrive627 20:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orochimarus Techniques 

message: major spoilers
oruchimaru is really a huge demon snake see pichture here
http://www.hebergement-images.com/02/1172589282_vip187953.jpg
translation found here
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=187867 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.176.173.43 (talk) 01:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont believe it. maybe it was just a transformation jutsu he was using to test sasuke. though in manga issue 6, he refers to himself as "Orochimaru, the giant snake", so it could be possible.QuietDrive627 01:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Ya. Orochi is a human just like the rest of us. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.190.227 (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  oruchs true form capt 344 spoilers 

message: Diden't Oroci try to use Earth Release: Inner Decapitation Technique on Saskue in the Chunin exam?Jacce 15:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont recall orochimaru using that technique during his fight with sasuke in the forest of death. did u see the fight in the anime because most of the anime fight isnt in the original manga anyway.QuietDrive627 23:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Technique? 

message: How exactly does Orochimaru do the Body Transfer Jutsu? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.123.61.122 (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He does it by first finding a host, then transffering his mind and soul into the hosts live body. The victim of the jutsu is presumed dead. He then usually morphs his apperance to resemble his original one using some unidentified technique. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by QuietDrive627 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a manga series meaning you're not supposed to know every thing and how it relates to physics because there is no way you can transfer your soul into another organism.Sam ov the blue sand 02:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay whoever you heard that from must really not know the Naruto world at allQuietDrive627 20:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Body transfer Jutsu 

message: I hope you know what my question is.Sam ov the blue sand 02:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because 344 only became widely available a few hours ago. Someone will upload one eventually. ~SnapperTo 03:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, within a week at most. 81.224.28.146 03:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

text: All I have to say is HOLY -! That..thing...is Orochimaru!?
Anyway. Narutofan.com has the manga scans, not sure if they'd want us to use them or not. 
I've got it on my photobucket now, but it's non-cropped or anything, so it's huge..
We also gained some insight on his parents- They're dead.
Edit: Oh, well, someone got it already.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.209.169.2 (talk) 04:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no true form pic? 

message: *The hell?  Didn't Frieza do that?  This should be taken out as it's a pretty POV statement. JuJube 03:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it means that the Japanese is female in tone. Since I don't know Japanese, I'm not sure how that would work, but it could probably use a rephrasing. ~SnapperTo 03:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Girls don't have a special way of saying "I" in English, do they? The general goal of the paragraph is to communicate that point. ~SnapperTo 04:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Atashi" is the feminine form of "watashi", as it's softer-sounding. Orochimaru also uses the formal "anata" (you), and there are probably further examples that I don't pick up on or don't remember. I should probably add that it's been a while since Orochimaru appeared, so I'm not 100% certain on the above. --Pentasyllabic 04:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cannot be reproduced in English"? 

message: When oro was fighting the third hokage he said that that was his second body, but now in chapter 345 we see that there was 4 bodies in that weird place where the used bodies are. I thought sasuke was going to be his fourth body, but i guess not.
:No, it might be accurate. It depends on your interpretation of "second body." What I'd assume is that he meant that was the second body he transferred into. Thus...
#Original Body
#First Transfer
#Second Transfer (the female form that fought the Hokage)
#Third Transfer (Gen'yumaru) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by You Can't See Me! (talk • contribs) 06:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems unlikely that his soul/body/thing would be kept within his own subconscious. ~SnapperTo 22:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orochimaru goof 

message: What is his status? Is he alive or dead? Sasuke's comment was a little cryptic.Retlor 23:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better yet, no tag at all. // DecaimientoPoético 02:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I doubt they would've said "Orochimaru-sama is dead... no wait ... he's been taken over" if he was done for. As his exact situation is unknown, I'd say that's what should be put under his current status (unknown). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.37.42.16 (talk) 17:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

text: This might get interesting. Sasuke might start talking to himself like Gollum! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.191.54 (talk) 10:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Except that has absolutely no logical basis in terms of transcendant logic or canon-universal physics. Let's not go with that. You Can't See Me! 06:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And why doesnt it make sense - shadow clones are able to perform jutsus of their own so orochimaru's shadow clone could have very well used the soul transfer jutsu on a person therefor giving them an actual body to live on74.73.103.13 02:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we just say A wizard did it and move on? JuJube 02:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I am really tempted to pursue the matter, but this is not a forum. You Can't See Me! 02:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: No, you're not. JuJube 17:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gah! If you're going to revert my edit, then at least explain your reasoning. All indications given in the manga are that Orochimaru is dead. I'm not going to get into an edit war over this, but you could at least be reasonable enough to explain your logic. 121.44.205.20 03:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus is it's not certain.  See the edit summary where your change was reverted.  Plus, it's original research to state a conclusion here. JuJube 04:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I suppose you're right about it being somewhat OR, but I still think that, given the information we have, Orochimaru being dead is the correct conclusion to draw - his NOT being dead, in my opinion, is OR. Still, I'll concede your point on this. 121.44.205.20 14:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status 

message: I undid the following line: "Because of the way he speaks and his obsession with Sasuke, many fans have joked/speculated that Orochimaru is gay."
It served no real purpose. Just because SOME people twist the evidence doesn't mean we shout report every crackpot theory. There is no canonical evidence for this whatsoever. Retlor 20:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The author might be gay or bisexual. So of course he'll make his characters gay.--141.213.198.142 06:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: we could see in the manga his past, that his parents died and the third telling him that one day, he'll see them again, so that is the reason that he learned a jutsu that revive people.
i think that this is an important fact, don't you think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.132.13.159 (talk) 20:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That his parents died is already included. That their deaths is his reason for wanting immortality/reviving people is speculation. ~SnapperTo 20:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  orochimaru's past on the manga 

message: didn't sasuke killed him already in the latest manga chapter?
:I don't think he's any more dead than English grammar at this point. In any case, see above discussions. You Can't See Me! 08:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally thought Sasuke killed him and I didn't see any foreshadowing or anything in the following frames either except maybe just MAYBE he was taken over by Orochimaru. Plus the tone of Sasuke voice later on sounds like Sasuke'sSigon 08:40, 11 April 2007
LOLLink's Awakening 21:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think he's dead, he may be revived at some point, but right now he has no body, and his mind is nowhere to be found, maybe his mind is lost or gone in that dimension Sasuke took over, but i think its inaccurate to claim that he is still alive and well though,considering all the characters in the manga also believe that he is dead, his status should be changed to something like presumably deceased, and if he comes back to life in another chapter, then change his status.Wraith12 07:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All speculation. Sasuke is the one with the ultimate answer, and his statement was filled with ambiguity. Until there is a complete confirmation, he's not not dead, and the article will reflect that. Sephiroth BCR 07:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When Orochimaru took Genyumaru's body, he told him that some part of him would remain alive within Orochimaru. If it is the case that Orochimaru is in Sasuke's body, but not in control, then it stands to reason that he is alive, at least in a certain sense.Retlor 22:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Orochimaru might not be dead, in fact he might come back since sasuke just suspressed him with his will. So don't be surprised if he makes a surprise come back and takes over Sasuke's body. For now he's presumed K.I.A.Saad64 10:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: And how does Sasuke telling Juugo that Orochimaru is dead constitute proof? JuJube 23:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, fair enough. Further evidence he is dead then. And, of course, until we know for sure it doesn't warrant a place in the article. 160.39.30.190 01:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: isn't he dead?

message: Due to all of the anons adding (deceased) after Orochimaru's age and the recent surge of gay jokes, does anybody feel the page ought to be sprotected? You Can't See Me! 17:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection? 

message: ok someone added this stupid, untrue, and imature edit to the end of the article which i am taking out--"As you all well know, Orochimaru died on the toilet, from a serious bout of constipation." as for the person who did this, i and i assume most others would appreciate it if you stopped making stupid edits such as this.24.185.163.37 00:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Tis called vandalism. It's done by anons. They don't read comments nor Talk page discussions. Thus, your complaints go to waste. Quit complaining and do something about it. You Can't See Me! 08:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: fyi i did do something about it. i took it out and i was just posting this for veiwers of the article to be aware i was taking it out so no need to act so abrasively.24.185.163.37 01:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to tell us. Just take it out. We don't want the vandalism either. If you see it, just get rid of it. We'll be happy. 24.229.191.54 10:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  stupid edit 

message: I always wondered why orochimaru didnt possess Hidan's body. I mean, Hidan is immortal, so he would have all the time of the world to learn every technique...
:Talk pages are for discussing changes to the article. Since this discussion won't help the article, I suggest we stop. // DecaimientoPoético 14:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Newbie question

message: From the latest chapter we know the oro left akatsuki ten years ago, but in the article it saids oro left after he failed to get itachi's body. But then that means itachi was 10 years old when that happen. So I think we can all agree that oro left BEFORE he tried to take itachi's body. So i purpose that the article be changed to oro leaving akatsuki before he tried to get itachi's body. Omimon
:Actually, no. Both were in Akatsuki during the body switch attempt. That's why he left. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We've never given a timeline. Fact is, they make it pretty clear both were in Akatsuki at the time. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

text: And if you insist on denying the obvious, then perhaps you shouldn't say anything in the first place? I'll admit the timeline is inconsistent, but denying the obvious to correct it is not the way to go. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Wasn't Kakashi Hatake a chuunin at some ridiculously young age? JuJube 06:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Kakashi was chūnin four years younger than Itachi.  'Course, they were at war with the Earth at the time, so promotions might have been fast-tracked a little. –Gunslinger47 22:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I never opposed that. I merely corrected your misinterpretation. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something needs changing 

message: Okay from what i have gather Orochimaru has had 2 students under his training Mizuki and Anko Mitarashi. Does anybody know if he had more that have been mentioned in the series so far? Deblow 02:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Mizuki was mentioned in the filler arcs so it not considered canon. In fact anything above episodes 135 until the last 10 minutes of 220 of naruto is not considered as part of the actual storyline. In answer to your question, none has been mentioned other than Anko. -ScotchMB 03:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orochimaru- Sensai? 

message: im putting the deceased tag on since he is dead he is not living
:And we'll take it off since he's a fictional character and thus was never alive to begin with. :) –Gunslinger47 20:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your unsolicited comments, however this thread is regarding the tagging of "deceased" in Orochimaru's infobox. –Gunslinger47 01:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems as though the deceased tag ought to be put in his infobox, as Gen'yumaru, who is in essentially the same state as Orochimaru, is regarded as such, and listing Orochimaru as deceased would seem to show more consistency throughout the pages regarding this series. Where it is possible that he may return to the series later on, it would appear to make the most sense to remove the tag if and when he does return.24.24.81.186 04:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see.  If his death can be verified, then I have no problem with placing deceased by the age.  This appears to be the convention.  I still stand by my previous statements, though.  –Gunslinger47 05:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Several Characters, Including Kabuto have already confirmed his death in the chapters. 70.145.110.92 21:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that Sasuke (the person who "killed" Orochimaru) says that he's not really dead. Most likely, Oro is still inside of Sasuke's body, and merely unable to take it over because Sasuke's will is too strong. 71.203.209.0 12:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Actually in the case of Orochimaru, he's more of being "incapitated". If he does returns, it would be through either Sasuke and/or Kabuto as each have half of him. That could lead to "There can be only one" confronation that ends with a shocking twist. Fractyl 19:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  deaceased  

message: Shouldnt it be noted somewhere in the article about his exstendable tongue and how he uses it quite frequently?
* Same can said about his neck, mystery poster Fractyl 00:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tongue