Talk:IWGP Heavyweight Championship

message: The pre-1987 title history should be included. Yes, it was a championship; it just wasn't defended throughout the year in the way that we conventionally talk about titles now. It was a title contested once a year in an annual tournament. Hogan won it in 1983 and lost it in 1984. This history should be included with acknowledgment that the title became a conventionally defended title much later.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.105.189.52 (talk) 06:08, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  About pre-1987 

message: The information given above appears to be completely contradicted by the PWI 2007 Wrestling Almanac and book of facts. It lists Hogan's reign as the first, and makes no comments on the IWGP title not existing prior to 1987. PWI has been very meticulous about this kind of thing, and in earlier versions of the almanac produced a list of active and inactive titles. They have never indicated that Hogan's championship is a seperate championship, and he is the first champion listed in their records. Either Hogan's championship is somehow considered a phantom reign, or someone has their information wrong about the idea that Hogan's title wasn't the IWGP title. Although PWI's focus is primarily on American wrestling, they do cover events in Japan, and the fact that they continue to list Hogan's victory on the active titles section, without making any comment giving it a distinction as a seperate belt indicates that NJPW considers him to have been the IWGP World Heavyweight Champion as it is recognized today. PWI would not have put Hogan's name on their list of people to have held the belt if he had not held it.
Warwolf1 22:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Pre-1987

message: Is it true that Brock Lesnar never returned the belt, after he left NJPW? --Gemini2525 20:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brock Lesnar 

message: Do we count it?
We shouldn't count it, at all. The only ones recognizing Angle as an IWGP Champion are IGF and TNA, both companies have NO say whatsoever however in who is recognized as an IWGP Champion. Edgar 22:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kurt Angle should be recognized as an interim IWGP World Heavyweight Champion.  Just like UFC has done with their Light Heavyweight Title and Heavyweight Title before. MC511 (talk) 08:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except Angle won the title under the jurisdiction of a completely different company, without the authorization of NJPW. Just because another company claims he's IWGP champion doesn't mean he is. --MarcK 09:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trust me, NJPW is in on this.  NJPW has Angle booked in January 08 to defend his "IWGP World Title". MC511 (talk) 23:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because they've negotiated to bring the title into NJPW doesn't mean they had anything to do with the creation of it, nor does it mean he's recognized as a true IWGP champion. The simple fact is that he's not listed under any reliable title histories, specifically the one at NJPW's official site. --MarcK 08:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Initially to me the angle with Lesnar and the 3rd belt in Inoki's promotion defending it and Angle did look like a work, but now it shows no true sign of it being so as New Japan is the company that has booked the show with him defending it against Nagata.  It would've been more meaningful and like a work if Angle defended it on an IGF show against an NJ guy, but that's not the case.  New Japan Pro Wrestling recognizes Hiroshi Tanahashi as the IWGP Heavyweight Champion, and Nagata and another reign of Tanahashi before him leading from Lesnar's reign being terminated in summer '06. NJPW recognize Angle as the IWGP 3rd Belt Champion, and not as a secondary or primary Heavyweight champion. They're taking back their belt. TonyFreakinAlmeida (talk) 00:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Angle's REIGN

message: wasnt the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship NOT THE IWGP Heavyweight Championship  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.250.99 (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thought the IWGP Heavyweight title is a major championship. It is not a "World" title. New Japan has never used the word World at any time, nor do I expect them to. This does not take away the belt being more improtant than almost every so called "World" title in the world.--DanteAgusta (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: what happen

message: New Japan (or rather, Japanese wrestling as a whole) has long considered The Great Muta and Keiji Muta as two totally separate characters and people. Should this be reflected in the title count?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.178.118.148 (talk) 00:32, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Muta/Keiji Mutoh 

message: Thinking we can maybe switch the picture to one of just the belt alone? Plenty of good pics on Google. Jedi Striker (talk) 06:07, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic of belt alone 

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message: I feel that the IWGP title reigns section should be split into a different article. Almost every other modern day major wrestling promotion's world title has a separate article for the title reigns (eg. List of WWE Champions, List of Impact World Champions, List of ROH World Champions etc.) Why should this be different considering it’s linege? I will need a general consensus however, as this is a large move. Thoughts?  Ducktech89 (talk) 24 August 2019, 8:45 (UTC)
: You should have brought this up at WP:PW or at least notified the project that you started a discussion on this.  It is going on three weeks and nobody has bothered to comment.  You should leave a notification of this.  Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Seperate page for title reigns