Talk:Kannada

message: Hi, I am not a native Kannada speaker. I am just interested in many languages, Kannada being one of them. One thing I have noticed about this page is that it lacks a phonological table listing the vowels and the consonants in Kannada. I would like to suggest that two phonological tables be added, one for vowels and another for consonants. I found this one on the Gujarati language: Gujarati letters, diacritics, and digits. I think a similar one can be done for the Kannada language, showing all the sounds (with distinctions for aspiration and voicing), romanisation as well as the letters. I think it would be helpful to those who want to learn more about the Kannada language Also, it would not hurt to place the traditional Kannada numbers here on this page (prominently, outside of the Unicode table) as well. Please do share your thoughts on this subject Razr99 (talk) 04:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Phonology table

message: Hi Crystallizedcarbon,  and All,
I have uploaded native Kannada speakers map KannadaNaduWikiMap.png.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KannadaNaduWikiMap.png
Please update it to this Kannada language wiki-article once agreed. If any one has any concern, please let me know here.
Regards,
NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 15:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, and thank you for your contributions, if there are no objections I will make the change myself on Thursday.--Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Kannada native speakers distribution map : 

message: Sources http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Indiaspeak-English-is-our-2nd-language/articleshow/5680962.cms and http://www.ethnologue.com/19/language/kan/, used by the infobox and lead respectively, give different numbers for total speakers: 50.8 vs 46.7, yet they both claim to be based on the 2001 census. It's not a huge difference, but still. If there is a more recent survey, it would probably be a good idea to use that instead.   — Gamall Wednesday Ida (t · c) 13:28, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory figures for speakers. 

message: I don't know enough about the topic to correct it, but it seems like the phrase "StopKannadaImposition" and the numerous references to "Telugannada" are not related to this article in any way. Not sure what to do in regards to this, so please discuss what should be done. MunchieM (talk) 01:59, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate/inflammatory statements

message: The article's History section (permalink)  starts out like this:
In principle, if a statement in a Wikipedia article is armoured by a long string of references, this almost always indicates that the statement is utter nonsense. Sadly, that appears to be the case here as well. In a large part, that's because of an IP edit from 2016  that changed the years from 2,000 to 2,500 (strange that this didn't get noticed in all the subsequent editing and expansion of the section). But there are further issues, so let's look at the refs cited.
The cryptic ref #4 appears to refer to a 2001 reprint of A concise history of Karnataka : from pre-historic times to the present by Suryanath U. Kamath, a source that I don't have access to. Neither can I get hold of ref #1, so if anyone has these two and is willing to fact-check, please let that be known.
Ref #5 is the 1897 Mysore Gazetteer, so it's too old and unreliable.
Ref #6, judging from the Google Books link, doesn't have any relevant content on the page cited (but the following page does have a mention of the 5th-century epigraphy); it's also published by Lulu, so it's almost certainly not a reliable source (see WP:RSP#Lulu.com). Both #3 and #8 are easily accessible on Google Books. What can be seen is that #3 says nothing at all about the language (the cited page only enumerates the ruling dynasties of the time), while the only relevant thing on the cited page of ref #8 is the statement that the 6th-century Chalukyas were Kannada speakers.
That leaves only #2 and #7 with any coverage that's relevant here. Ref #7 is Thirumaleshwara Bhat's 1993 Govinda Pai (), which is a biographical study of the writer Govinda Pai. I'm not sure how useful that can be for our purposes, but it does contain the statement , but also a lengthy commentary on how this is not the case for his identification with Kannada of the various Dravidian words in Prakrit or Greek texts from before the 5th century. Ref #2 is a very detailed study of early Tamil epigraphy. The author lists (on pp. 108-9) a number of words or grammatical features found in some of the inscriptions in the period 2nd century BC to 4th century AD that he identifies as being due to the influence of Old Kannada. This is significant and definitely deserves mention in the Wikipedia article, but per WP:PRIMARY, we also need to see how that's been received in the secondary sources. In particular, I can see how this can be subjected to the same criticism that Bhat reports having been levied on Pai: how do we know this is Kannada and not another related language? (from a quick glance, I don't see anything to suggest that Mahadevan's "Kannada" isn't a shorthand for "coming from a Dravidian source that's closer to Kannada than to Tamil".
From all I've seen so far, there's agreement about only one thing: that the earliest Kannada inscriptions are from the middle of the 5th century AD. The possible earlier attestations of the language, on the other hand, appear to be subject to debate. – Uanfala (talk) 19:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest history