Talk:Twelve Tribes of Israel

message: This page redirects to Mansions of Rastafari, where there is a section named Twelve Tribes of Israel. I suggest that a much more common interpretation of "12 Tribes" is the biblical sense of the tribes of the 12 sons of Jacob:  Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, etc, and referred to in the Israelite article. Do we need a disambiguation page here? --BillC 19:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: , I was editing this article and found that there were redirects from this article and Twelve tribles of Israel to Israelites, which has a lot of background.
It does not appear that there is a separate need for this article. So, I am restoring the redirects. Perhaps you could discuss your thoughts about why a separate article is needed on the Talk:Israelites page and take it from there. Otherwise, it's duplicative information and subject to deletion.--CaroleHenson (talk) 05:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you should nominate this article for deletion first, before restoring redirects.  --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 05:12, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the purpose of creating this duplicate article? Since I discussed this here first, and you still reverted the edits, I will post a warning on your user page.--CaroleHenson (talk) 05:15, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:BobKilcoyne started this article recently so I'm not alone here who disagree with you. The article has 28 interwikis by the way. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 05:20, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

text: The article was started recently by User:BobKilcoyne at Twelve tribes of Israel. I moved the text to Twelve Tribes of Israel to capitalize word Tribes. If you referring to discussion on this talk page from 2005 then it's obviously outdated, and you should start formal nomination before removing this article because you're alone here with this opinion. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 05:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It was started from a redirect that has been in place for some time. It's a duplicative article. I still haven't heard why this article is necessary. I am not alone on this. I consulted with the Help Chat Line before I took any action. They advised me to return the redirects. Hold on, I cut and paste the discussion.--CaroleHenson (talk) 05:45, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Help Chat Line (what is this?!) is not an argument. The article has 28 interwikis and two editors besides you. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 05:50, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

text: I have restored this article. Primarily the reason why this article is necessary as well as the Israelites article is to allow for inclusion and development of the New Testament material which is not covered, and would not be appropriate, in the Israelites article - BobKilcoyne (talk) 05:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I posted a message on the Talk:Israelites page and I see that the "Twelve tribes of Israel redirect message was removed from the top of the page.--CaroleHenson (talk) 14:01, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of redirects 

message: I reverted an edit removing teh 'in islam' section becasuse it was likely in bad fait, that said the 'in islam' and 'in christianity' sections do not seem relevant and tehre should be some discussion of whether or not to keep them. blindlynx (talk) 21:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  In other religions sections 

message: I tweaked the introduction... The Twelve Tribes of Israel () are, according to Judeo-Christian texts, the descendants of the Biblical patriarch Jacob (Yakov), also known as Israel, through his 12 sons by various women, who collectively form the Israelite nation. Within ancient Judaism, one's tribal affiliation had a great impact on his or her location, practices and opportunities, as some tribes enjoyed privileges others did not and some tribes received more blessings than others. Some modern scholars dispute whether there ever were (exactly) 12 Israelite tribes, and think that the number 12 more likely signifies a symbolic invented tradition as part of a national founding myth. 2601:589:4802:AB0:252F:9340:C814:37D9 (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jacob (Yakov) 

message: Where are the black people? We are beginning of time! 68.184.150.189 (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah , this is crazy how are my brothers not in this? 74.134.59.147 (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where the black people at? 

message: Wikipedia has to stay neutral. Putting a single believe system first does the opposite. So lets put science first and religion below, as things should be.
--2A01:C23:64C0:8400:549A:3AC5:C5E0:40C7 (talk) 2A01:C23:64C0:8400:549A:3AC5:C5E0:40C7 (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Put historicity first