Talk:Special Operations Executive

message: The list of agents on this page is of such a length that I feel it would benefit from being divided into the various SOE Sections.  At present I don't have sufficient data to do this myself, but whoever has added all of the names which do not yet have their own pages may well have it. Petermanchester 11:44, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, it's broken, and it doesn't look like it's going to come back.  The whole site seems to have moved to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk, and lists of releases before 2003 have been cleansed. Their online catalogue (PROCAT) is dead, so I can't search for the missing info.  As a consolation prize, I added a link to the nearest thing I could find, a list of 2003 document releases relating to SOE. --Heron 10:52, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: List

message: The phrase "The F Section, under British control, recruited agents who were not prepared to accept the leadership of General De Gaulle" could be better expressed. Some people not liking De Gaulle wasn't the only reason for the two sections. If anything I thought F section came first & RF was started because De Gaulle didn't want to work under British control. -- SteveCrook 09:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: France

message: The Danish Resistance was able to mount few covert actions before the end of the war. Most of the actions conducted were railroad sabotage to halt German troop movements from and to Norway. However, there were examples of sabotage on a much larger scale especially by BOPA. In all over 1000 operations were conducted from 1942 and onwards. The Danish resistance also saved nearly all of the Danish jews from certain death in German KZ camps. This was a massive overnight operation and is to this day recognized among jews as one of the most significant displays of public defiance against the Germans. They did assist SOE in its activities in neutral Sweden. For example, SOE was able to obtain several shiploads of vital ball-bearings which had been interned in Swedish ports.
One of the two striked through parts cant be right
Tha slughy 22:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Denmark

message: The Neville Chamberlain article states "he had a key role in the formation of the Special Operations Executive", yet this article doesn't mention him at all.  --J Clear 12:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chamberlain 

message: I read this article to find out more about the SOE after reading this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7585387.stm
It states that the SOE was closed during Clement Attlee's stint as PM. Any chance of checking this and expanding the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.46.101 (talk) 08:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was it closed? 

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message: The article states : "With aid from these two organisations [ELAS and EDES], Myer's [sic] party destroyed the Gorgopotamos railway viaduct on 14 November, 1942." However, firstly, Eddie Myers and the SOE operatives never had the numerical or operational capacity to carry out this act on their own and use Greek partisans only for "aid". The operation was carried out by ELAS and EDES detachments under the planning and guidance of SOE, as described in the relevant Wiki entry. Secondly, the date givn is wrong. Thirdly, the SOE party which planned the sabotage act and participated in its execution was led by Eddie Myers (not Chris Woodhouse, as the Gorgopotamos entry implies). Therefore, the two entries should be reconciled, in that the above-quoted sentence in the current article should be amended to read "On 25 November 1942, as part of 'Operation Harling', 150 Greek partisans and a party of SOE officers, following a plan drawn up by Eddie Myers, blew up the railroad bridge at Gorgopotamos,  cutting off the enemy-controlled route linking Thessaloniki and Athens." -The Gnome (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Gorgopotamos

message: ″Eventually, the British Army occupied Athens and Piraeus in the aftermath of the German withdrawal, and fought a street-by-street battle to drive ELAS from these cities and impose an interim government under Archbishop Damaskinos. SOE's last act was to evacuate several hundred disarmed EDES fighters to Corfu, preventing their massacre by ELAS.[87]″
Whatever the truth of what happened in autumn 1944, the Foot reference, which I have as page 340, a long way from page 236, so a mere change in edition is unlikely to have brought this about, only provides minimal support to the text. Foot has no reference to an imminent massacre. If as implied SOE had successfully fought for control of Athens, why was an evacuation necessary?86.153.79.140 (talk) 11:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: EDES v. ELAS

message: The section on the Chetniks needs to be internally referenced and cited more extensively. The debates on the extent on Chetnik collaboration became re-politicized during the 1990s Balkan Wars. MarieHooper (talk) 20:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOE in Yugoslavia 

message: There are various ratings (written by Wiki contributors) for the books cited in the References section, which seem to be crossing the line into POV territory, e.g. "Best book on the subject", etc. Unless there's a Wiki policy exempting books from such statements of personal points of view, I move to remove all the "blurbs", honest as they might be. -The Gnome (talk) 09:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Books rated in "References"

message: overlooked (as usual) french spec ops against the japanese in indochina from 1944 to 1945 (former Jedburgh and CLI/Gaur commandos dropped in Laos by Force 136), evidence here, but you can find more in french language and in english using google and google books. who searches finds. Cliché Online (talk) 18:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: SOE's French Indo-China Section

message: An Information request:
Between the years of 1940-1943 the SOE run intelligece operations in Syria and Lebanon that were under the Vichy regime.
Under the framework of the cooperation between the SOE and the Political department of the Jewish Agency, a network of jewish agents was estblished.
These operations were conducted by dozens of jewish agents thet served in the "Syrian Department" of the Palmach (the elite fighting force of the Haganah).
Their mission required a uniqe military preperation that included: reconnaissance, sabotage, utilization of various wepons, operating communicators and military tactics trainings.
The chief instructor of the Course was the SOE officer - Nicholas G. L. Hammond.
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Does anyone have a farther information about these operations and actions? In general and from the SEO side?
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(The informaton that I gave is from the information center of the Palmach - that I transelated from hebraw)
נקפדון (talk) 05:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOE operations in Syria and Lebanon 1941-43 

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message: I wrote too books about SOE operations in Portugal. First concerning Operation Longshanks in Marmagoa Harbour in 1943;a second one about John Beevor clandestine network organized from Lisbon in 1941. It is my firts time here in Wikipedia so I do not know how to share more details about my reserach.
José António Barreiros
joseantoniobarreiros@gmail.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by José António Barreiros (talk • contribs) 22:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOE in Portugal 

message: A translation of the French WP article « Liste des moyens aériens du SOE » would be useful.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 04:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Landing fields 

message: "* Arthur Christie. Mission Scapula SOE in the Far East .
:A true story about an ordinary soldier seconded into MI5 and sent on a mission to Singapore just before it fell. With Freddy Spencer-Chapman". This book has been written by his son Maurice A. Christie: "The wartime memories of Arthur Christie, written in the first person by his son Maurice A. Christie. Arthur Christie credited as author on cover." London: M. A. Christie, 2004. 
(copac) fuller details are needed and it might not qualify for that section.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 07:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Christie 

message: Please could I suggest a couple of ammendments? I notice that Colonel Maurice Buckmaster is not mentioned in this article, although he was prominent in the leadership of the French section of SOE, as it says on his wikipedia page.
Also, in the bibliography section, there is no mention of Captain Peter Churchill's books on his training, operational career and capture.
217.36.4.10 (talk) 13:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggested additions 

message: Major "Jo" Holland was present at the inception of SOE, as GS (R), later MI (R). Although this is noted in your article, there is no mention that he was responsible for bringing his friend Major Gubbins to the fledgling operation. (They had served in Ireland together in 1919/20). I have found considerably more detail about Holland at the beginning of M.R.D. Foot's book: "SOE: An Outline History of the Special Operations Executive 1940-46."  I have also read that Holland founded the commandos. One of the first tasks put to them by Lord Gort (with Gubbins and Millis Jefferis) was to produce pamphlets on guerilla warfare. Conceived through extensive research by Holland in worldwide subversive techniques and written by Gubbins, they were produced in the spring of 1939 and distributed all over Europe and beyond. In the midst of clashing personalities at the beginning, these three men worked well and productively together. As a general note, Holland was awarded the DFC in WW1 and ended WW2 as a Major General and Companion of the Bath. I feel he deserves more mention.
thumbnail|Major JCF "Jo" Holland 
24.222.253.66 (talk) 13:39, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested addition to Major JCF Holland 

message: Elsewhere on Wikipedia, I read that the average length of time of service for a planted SOE wire transmitter in France was 3-6 months before capture. I came to this entry expecting to find this data but it's not here. Any idea what entry on Wikipedia would have this piece of information? I can't think of another topic that would cover this same area. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 03:26, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Where else did you read it? In which article? Did they cite any references or was it just one of those "Wikipedia Facts" without any references? -- SteveCrook (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of time in field 

message: Doesn't need to be its own article. Can be included in the history of the Special Operations Executive. —  Mr. V (t – c)  09:36, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Department EH]] 

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message: See https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1469303/Did-British-intelligence-send-its-own-spies-to-their-deaths.html .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 13:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Also see https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/let-s-dare-to-tell-the-truth-about-the-soe-lbn5b593t .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 13:29, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Note article 

message: Did a "quick" ref edit, rm CS1 maintenance tags, ref = none for unused sources, left a couple of stray citations as don't know the references. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  CE 

message: The importance of this article in the Wikiproject Espionage is currently rated "low."  The importance of the OSS article in the Wikiproject Espionage is currently rated "top."  I would opine with some confidence that SOE is as important -- or more important -- than the OSS, so I've changed the importance of this article to "Top." Smallchief (talk) 11:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance of article

message: 161 Squadron operations: Landing strip lengthof Westland Lysander: "It handled very well at low speed and could use landing grounds only 400 yards (370 m) long." vs. "The Lockheed Hudson had a range 200 miles (320 km) greater and could carry more passengers (ten or more), but required landing strips three times as long as those needed for the Lysander (450 yards vs. 150 yards)." What now? 150 or 450? --Castellanus (talk) 22:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Landing strip length 

message: Cornelius James Murphy, SOE 1939-1946:
*http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/soe-d-q-and-press-propaganda.35024/
*http://www.psywar.org/sibs.php  https://archive.ph/9yqx
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thread_title: Cornelius James Murphy

message: There is only one item named in pop culture, and that apparently is only a single event in the item.  One novel that is entirely about women in the SOE is The Lost Girls of Paris by Pam Jenoff. Kdammers (talk) 06:28, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also: Susan Elia MacNeal's The Paris Spy (2017) Kdammers (talk) 06:31, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In pop culture