Talk:Homer Simpson/Archive 1

message: I remember reading a comic from the library, and it explained why Homer was named "Homer J Simpson." I believe Nancy Cartwright said a line along the lines of "I'm Bartholomew J Simpson." Afterwords, when being asked what J stood for, she simply said "Jojo." The name stuck for Homer and other Simpson members.
I believe this is the REAL middle name of many Simpsons characters, and should thusly be chaged. I will try to find the comic again, but I wouldn't depend on it.
:J stands for Jay.  There was a complete episode about it. PrometheusX303 22:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Homer "Jojo" Simpson

message: This is the moment when Marge corrects Homer by telling him his recalled memory was an episode of happy days, to which Homer replies “no, they weren’t all happy days”.
The comedy here arises in the misunderstanding.
Coyotequi  02:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: They weren’t all happy days

message: I think it would be informative and funny to add up all of Homers crimes
*It would be, but currently isn't, since this list is incredibly partial and misses out so much salient material. I'm going to take this off - if someone actually wants to sit down and work this out, then post a provisional list, that would be a good idea - although it should probably be a separate article by my reckoning!XmarkX 15:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criminal record 

message: Should I add title "The Rev." to his name at the beginning of the article? Technically, he is an ordained minister. MessedRocker 15:27, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
Homer's ordained minister position is not replayed in more than one episode, as far as I know. It's not a major title for him, thus it shouldn't be displayed in his title. It'd more than likely confuse most people. --Iwhaiwnfi 18:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Reverend Homer Jay Simpson? 

message: seems to me that at the moment a lot of clutter around the bottom of this article is general Simpsons trivia that does not merit inclusion in an article on Homer Simpson. The only things that I don't think fall into this category are the lists of his jobs. I'm minded to delete most of the rest of this, but I'm just sounding opinion out first.XmarkX 15:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not a bad idea. Homer's past jobs have so many entries (since each job is often the subject of a new episode) that perhaps it's time for his jobs to receive a new article. --Deathphoenix 12:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons Trivia 

message: It states (...) that Homer has been banned from every state in the nation, with North Dakota and Arizona being the two exceptions. In the episode "Sweet And Sour Marge", they say that Tennesee is, and I quote, "south of the border". Tennesee is located directly south of Kentucky, a state which contains not only a Springfield, but also a Shelbyville. While I'm aware of the almost infamous controversy (however light-hearted) over exactly which state the show takes place in, wouldn't this place them in a state they are supposedly banned from? Is this just adding fuel to the fire of retardation on the issue, or did I just blow your minds? - Refugee621 06:35, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Every''' State?

message: In episode CABF11 where Lisa is having a bullying problem, Homer is seen beating up a guy while singing Kung Fu Fighting. This bit tell us that Homer is a bully in his past. Horever, I wonder who Homer is beating up. Is it Smithers, Artie Ziff of Frank Grimes, or someone else? In this site they guess it is 
Smithers, but I think he is actually beating up Frank Grimes (based on the Hair cut and the fact that Homer was bullying Grimes later in his life).
He wasn't bullying Grimes, and Grimes didn't go to school. It was Smithers. Oh, and sign your posts, please.--Jnelson09 22:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Homer beating up? 

message: *In CABF11 Homer claims to be a Hindu too
*In AABF05 Homer was Muslim ("Even during Ramadan?)--220.238.29.52 14:21, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion (Proof) 

message: Anon contribution to the Homer article moved here for discussion.  That article sees quite a few Simpson fans.  WBardwin 00:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The ideal of Homer was the inspiration for the Simpsons character of the same name. Although the animated character has evolved over the years to the character we know today, some earlier versions were a good likeness of the traditional image of Homer, in fact an episode was written (but never animated or released) in which Homer the animated character was blind. Many are skeptical of this, mostly because of the TV character's lazy nature, but if considered in a deeper sense the elements of a storyteller make sense in keeping with the show's anti-moral additude.
I don't think this is right. Homer Simpson was named in honour of Matt Groening's father, Homer Groening. NP Chilla 12:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Homer]] 

message: Do we need to have so many lists of different events on the page? It is usual around wikipedia to have it referenced in a sentence and then provide links to either a list page or a couple of examples of said action?
At the moment the article is reading like a giant list with a few paragraphs of information at the top (which also contain lists of words to describe his personality)-localzuk 10:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the cleanup is needed.  Its more like a fan page than an encyclopedia entry.  Unfortunately, I think the only way it will work is if someone has the energy and interest to rewrite the whole thing - and then it is likely to deteriorate again.  I wish I had the energy! John (Jwy) 20:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Here's the entire run-on sentence listing Homer Simpson's past injuries. —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 04:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entire list of injuries 

message: As part of the attempt to clean up, a bulk of quotes have been moved to WikiQuote - quotes showing Homer's sexuality, religion or otherwise are acceptable, but general "stupid quotes" or "quotes about food" definitely do not belong here. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 22:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also removed == Family, friends, and enemies ==
===Bonding or little talks with...===
*[ 8F07 ] Bart - building the soapbox racer; when Bart wins the race 
*[ 8F16 ] Bart - After Bart congratulates him ending of the love letter.
*[ Maggie - Felt that he couldn't be a fatherly figure to Lisa and doesn't want to be one for Bart, so bonds with Maggie
===Forgetting children===
*[ 8F15 ] Thought he only had two kids, and when told he had three, he said "The dog doesn't count as a kid!"
*[ EABF03 ] Thinks Maggie is Lisa's best friend
===Strangling Bart===
*[ 7F02 ] after Bart spilt his bottle of Dimoxinil
*[ 2F04 ] after Bart looks Homer in the eye and tells him that he did not steal the church collection money 
*[ 8F05 ] when Bart says he won't even use the bathroom after him.
*[ 8F06 ] too busy strangling (young) Bart to notice Maggie saying "dada" 
*[ 8F11 ] when he realizes Bart fooled him with a fake radio announcement
*[ 9F08 ] strangles baby Bart for calling him "Domer" and for flushing his wallet down the toilet
*[ 9F17 ] when Bart admits to shaking up the beer can 
*[ 1F20 ] after Bart says that Homer double-dared him
*[ CABF01 ] while Lisa sees the house with binoculars
===Correcting Bart or Lisa===
*[ 7G11 ] Bart: "Dad, you're giving in to mob mentality." "No I'm not, I'm hopping on the bandwagon!" 
*[ 9F19 ] "Two wrongs make a right, Lisa."
*[ 1F15 ] "Lisa, a guy who's got lots of ivory is less likely to hurt Stampy than a guy whose ivory supplies are low."
*[ 1F15 ] Homer: "I owe it all to this feisty feline". Lisa: "Dad, Feline means cat". Homer: "Elephant honey. It's an elephant!"
*[ 3F03 ] Homer: "Lisa honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?" Lisa: "No." Homer: "Ham?" Lisa: "No." Homer: "Pork chops?" Lisa: "Dad! Those all come from the same animal!" Homer: "Yeah right Lisa, a wonderful, MAGICAL animal!"
*[ 1F04 ] Lisa: ";;Mom! Dad! Mr. Burns is a vampire and he has Bart!" (...) Homer: "Lisa you and your stories... 'Bart is a vampire', 'Beer kills brain cells'... now let's go to that building thingy... where our beds and TV... is."
*[ 1F04 ] Lisa: "Ewww... Dad this is blood!" Homer: "Correction Lisa: Free blood!"
===Suggestive snuggling with Marge===
*[ 7G01 ] At the very end of episode 
*[ 8F19 ] at end, in bed with Marge 
*[ 8F22 ] after he learns some new vocabulary
*[ 9F01 ] while Marge is praying for him
*[ 9F07 ] Wearing Mr. Plow jacket at end 
*[ 9F11 ] Watching "The erotic adventures of Hercules" ("The Cyclops just tore off my clothes!") 
*[ 1F07 ] In hotel
In the putt-putt golf windmill
===Homer vs. Flanders===
*[ 7G09 ] "Don't try to keep up with the Flandereses"
*[ 9F22 ] When Chief Wiggum says once a man is in your house you can do what you want to him, so Homer calls Flanders and gets ready to punch him 
*[ 1F10 ] He says, "that life is one defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead" 
*[ 1F14 ] plans to hit Ned over the head with a lead pipe and take his football tickets
*[ 5F16 ] takes part in the race because Flanders takes part too''
This is crap, and doesn't belong in an encyclopaedic article about the character, may I suggest you people go to Geocities and create fan pages? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:44, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotes

message: *[ 7G09 ] "Don't try to keep up with the Flandereses"
*[ 9F22 ] When Chief Wiggum says once a man is in your house you can do what you want to him, so Homer calls Flanders and gets ready to punch him 
*[ 1F10 ] He says, "that life is one defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead" 
*[ 1F14 ] plans to hit Ned over the head with a lead pipe and take his football tickets
*[ 5F16 ] takes part in the race because Flanders takes part too''
This is crap, and doesn't belong in an encyclopaedic article about the character, may I suggest you people go to Geocities and create fan pages? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:44, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Homer vs. Flanders

message: Whrere did this come from? Surely all those names were not mentioned on the show.
I'm pretty sure that came from a book (copyrighted, too).  I will find out for sure next time I see the book. ejdmoo 01:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we really need the whole tree? As it is right now, it just clutters the article, and in my opinion it should only show Homer and the family, and their ancestors as the others have little to do with Homer in particular, or possibly be moved to another article or deleted all together. Bjelleklang  -  talk 11:30, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family Tree 

message: This entire article is full of lists. Lists of food that he likes, lists of his behaviour, lists, lists, lists! Sorry for the rant but I think it needs a complete rewrite. I am willing to give it a go but I want some suggestions?
What should be included? -Localzuk (talk) 19:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists, lists, lists! 

message: Could everyone just eliminate the PIN altogether.  That is deadweight.  And that is why I keep trying to delete it.
:Yes. I agree. It is trivia and 90% of the stuff in this article is trivia. We need to cut a lot of stuff out and retain some of it in a 'Trivia' section. -Localzuk (talk) 19:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The PIN 

message: I dont agree that homer is 6 feet tall, i believe he stands at 5'9, since he is the same height as mel gibson , in the mel gibson episode.
Homer is just over 5.5 ft according to his mugshot from 1988 in which he is wearing a "Haig in 88'" shirt (season 7 episode "Who shot Mr. Burns (part 2)). That'd put him at ~5'7". However, in the opening couch gag of the saem episode he is in front a lineup backdrop with height measures that put him at 6 foot even. This may be as a result of his shoes or maybe since its an intro gag it isn't canon/we can assume it isn't "official".
:I doubt he'd be any taller than 5'10".  Unless the man is Dutch (who currently are the tallest in the world, with an average height of 6'1"), it's more realistic he'd be about that height.  I think.  70.49.240.116 15:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homer's Height 

message: Since time doesn't really pass on the show, Homer's age and weight should stand as "36 and 239."
I agree that time doesnt stop so maybe there should only be there birth days in the articles,because they techically have no age since its a timelless show,i think that is what causes the confusion of ages.67.71.61.252 16:08, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: Reverting mass deletions.Dlohcierekim 00:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That us your opinion. I might even agree with it. However, the other editors of this page may have opinions that disagree with your yours. Mass deletions should be decided upon through discussion and consensus building. Propose your changes here. Leave a note on the talk pages of others who have edited this page inviting them to consider your changes. Get their feedback. Build a consensus. Dlohcierekim 01:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Please note that constructive editing (which can include well documented deletion of material (especially unsourced material)) should be accepted warmly under the assumption of good faith, and the request that editors be bold. There is a great deal of fluff in this article which is not critical to the understanding of the subject matter and is not well sourced (when it is sourced at all). Certainly the fact that an edit involved or was limited to deletion should not be the sole criteria for its reversion. -Harmil 19:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 15, 2006 

message: I have been going through each section and taking out a little in each one, and I am going to give the whole thing the once-over after I'm done.  I guess that would make it the twice-over. Anyway, I'm up to the Height and weight section but I'll continue tomorrow. J. Finkelstein 08:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the middle of editing but must sleep... 

message: In the address section it states that Springfield is in Louisiana. But this is just speculation as Springfield could be in almost any US state (see Springfield). St jimmy 10:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the entire address section needs to go away.  Joyous | Talk 12:24, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

text: link. Best to just say as Jimmy wrote above. GfloresTalk 01:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Address 

message: This is a list of all of Homer's enemies.
*Sisters-in-law Patty and Selma Bouvier, whom reciprocate Homer's dislike.
*The Society of No Homers (formerly the Stonecutters)
*Employer Charles Montgomery Burns
*Mobster "Fat Tony."
*Artie Ziff - Marge's old boyfriend
*Springfield University Dean Bobby Peterson (Homer dislikes all college deans, thanks to his misconceptions that such administrators are evil, as portrayed in college movies).
*Former president George H. W. Bush (the two disagreed on Homer's methods of rearing a naughty Bart).
*The Emperor of Japan.
*"the fat little Dixie Chick."
*New York City.
*Springfield Candy Convention
*Springfield A & M
*Shelbyville
*PBS, because Homer failed to make good on his $10,000 pledge, just for the sake of ending the drive.
*The State of Florida.
*Sean Hannity.
*The Hell's Satans biker gang (a parody of the Hell's Angels biker gang)
*Public Transportation
*An "Inanimate Carbon Rod" from "Deep Space Homer," because the stick of carbon, not Homer, was credited for saving a space mission Homer was participating in from disaster.
*A killer Krusty the Clown doll (in the "Treehouse of Horror III" segment "Clown Without Pity," where a Krusty talking doll murderously stalks Homer, but acts normally when anyone else is around. The segment itself was a parody of a "Twilight Zone" episode, "Living Doll.").
*Frank "Grimey" Grimes
*Frank Grimes Jr.
*The Plow King (friend/temporary business adversary Barney Gumble)
*Waylon Smithers
*Rod and Todd Flanders
*The Queen of England after crashing her coach.
*Britain as Homer attacked the Queen.
*Springfield Sanitation Commissioner Ray Patterson
*The nation and government of Australia
*The French
*"The Boy!" (Bart)
*Nerds
*Hollywood jerks
*Ned Flanders
*George Lucas
oops--Anchoress 06:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why did you put your name here? J. Finkelstein 07:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Enemies 

message: I did a lot of stuff but there's still a ton to do. Most importantly, as User:Localzuk said above, this is just a bunch of lists.  Feel free to remove unnecessary info. Please. Second, almost every sentence requires a citation, so I just took out the tags.  You can put them back in if you want, but I would only do that if you are willing to put them everywhere. I was going to put a segment like this
:In one episode ,
in front of every fact, but it didn't seem worth all that effort to me, so wherever you see a "In one episode" or "In another episode", that means there should be a citation for a specific episode like the ones I did in the Age section.
Third, remove or restrain yourself from putting in facts that are funny and don't add anything to the characterization of Homer. What this page should be, I think, is a characterization of the character itself, and not a list of things that the character has done throughout the series.
Fourth, I reduced the size of the file to an acceptable amount, so that's a good start :P .
Finally, if you see something that doesn't have a date with it, put that in there for clarity (like in the Awards and honors section).
Exhausted :P .
:Well done, Finkelstein! I submitted Homer for peer review and added some stuff to the todo list. Do you guys think the age section is necessary? Seems something that belongs to fansites. Should the layout be changed? I like Peter Griffin as an example, although that's not perfect either. Gflores Talk 22:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I don't think we need a whole section on age. Simpson is in his mid-to-late 30s, but the show's creators have been characteristically ambiguous about his exact age or something like that should suffice.  Joyous | Talk 23:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Done with A LOT of cleaning 

message: This article desperatly needs less fancruft fictional-facts about Homer and more how the carector has influenced the real world. Also it needs to more clearly distinguish fact and fiction, there is some good guidelines for this at Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check your fiction.--JK the unwise 09:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  from Fan article to encycopedia article. 

message: This article appears to me to be just a massive collection of lists with no real purpose. Perhaps we need to create a new article structure.
How's this:
*intro
*Description
*Personality
*Cultural influences
*Awards
*Quotes
*Trivia 
And incorporate those lists into these sections.
St jimmy 13:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "cultural influences" should be the bulk of the article. I don't see that the "awards" section is necessary, as it's just another list of trivia. "Description" and "personality" could be in one section, and there's already a huge section in Wikiquotes, so there's no need to duplicate that here.  Joyous | Talk 13:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but that's such a difficult edit to make. It's basically starting over from scratch, and very few people have the patience to do that, including me, although I would very much like to. Also, we need sources and references for something like that, but I don't have any.  Maybe somebody should get on that... Sorry for patronizing, not trying to. J. Finkelstein 14:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists 

message: Ok, I'll be bold and subst the checklist I've been writing at User:Zocky/Article checklist. The idea is that we check each item and sign them when they are done, or discuss them inside the list, as necessary. The list is still under construction, so items may need to be added, removed or clarified. Zocky | picture popups 15:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Checklist 

message: ;Name and disambiguation
*The name of the article follows naming conventions - Zocky | picture popups 15:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article checklist

message: It would seem like a good idea to have a picture of Dan Castellaneta the voice of Homer in this article. The picture on his article is a fair use publicity photo, i would image it would be fair use to use it hear as well. Also it might be nice to have a quote from him about his views on the carector he plays.--JK the unwise 08:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vioce of Homer 

message: Homer did say that he shouldn't have eaten that pack of powdered gravy he found in the parking lot, but he is unreliable. After all, he was hallucinating.
I believe this is a reference to him finding a packet of white powder in the parking lot, which he assumed was gravy and so he ate it. No doubt it was narcotics, which explains the hallucinations. 
The scene is much funnier that way.
:Someone needs to step away from the TV. --JOK3R 20:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powdered gravy? Surely not. 

message: His e-mail id was given in the episode where he appoints a Pvt detective to know what his daughter likes, id was chunkylover53@aol.com! and in another episode he asks viewers to call him at KL5 3226 to buy his plough!
--59.92.161.191 11:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The KL5 is actually a clever way of diguising the fact that it is 5-5-5 number; TV producers often use 555 numbers since no real phone number uses it. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 17:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contact address 

message: The Good Article nomination for Homer Simpson failed for the following reasons:
*One section is a stub.
*It links to a full list of injuries on a Talk page. If this information is worthwhile to be held on Wikipedia as encyclopedic information, it should be on the main article space page.
*The notability of the quotations chosen seems arbitrary.
*The article doesn't discuss more "real world" elements, such as (possible examples off the top of my head) the intrusion of Homer Simpson's phrases into popular culture generally (beyond "D'oh!"), or the development of the character by Groening.
*The absence of fair use rationales for the images used.
You can read the full criteria at Wikipedia:What is a good article. I look forward to seeing this article put forward again in future. —Whouk (talk) 19:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: OK... Anyone interested in helping cleanup the Simpsons information, join the WikiProject... if we can all work together, instead of different editors working on different pages, we can get all the Simpsons information on all of Wikipedia organized... - Adolphus79 05:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject: Simpsons 

message: Talk page is HUGE --JOK3R 16:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving 

message: I reverted a change to Homer's age range with the edit summary that he got Marge pregnant in HS (and therefore could be 29). He DIDN'T pregnant in HS, IIRC they graduated in 76 or 78, and she got pregnant during the run of The Empire Strikes Back, which came out in 1980.--Anchoress 17:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 29? 

message: I've tagged the article for fictional cleanup. Here's a quick analysis of how this article needs to be fixed.  Unfortunately, I can't do it myself, because I know very little about the Simpsons and don't actually know where to get the information, but here's what is needed:
*The first section of the article should not discuss ANYTHING from an in-universe perspective at all.  Instead, it should briefly describe the context for the character, including a brief description of the show, Homer's creator, when he was created, etc.  Some of this information can be borrowed from The Simpsons wiki page, but made more specific to Homer himself.
*A description section, covering the evolution of the character design.  Potential quotes from the artist would go well here.  Notes on how his weight and hair have changed can go here, but NOT explanations such as: "Homer has been bald since the early 1980s, mostly due to the stress of Marge's pregnancies with Bart and Lisa, as well as other factors".  That's an in-universe explanation.  We need actual artist's motivations, possibly with a mention how it was explained in universe, but always clearly stating this.
*Then should come a character section.  This section needs to be cleaned up to discuss Homer's personality from a real-world perspective.  Instead of leading off with "He was raised solely by his father after the approximate age of six", state how Homer's personality was originally designed to be, and how it has been modified and refined by the writers over the years of being on the air.  Again, some of this information can probably be brought in from The Simpsons article.  Some traits of Homer can be specified, and examples cited (as examples, not as "History of the character" like it is now).
*Then a section describing issues the character Homer has been used to explore.  Bits of information from "Mental Acuity", "Sexuality", and "Religion" can go here, but reformatted and rewritten to show that we aren't describing a real person, we're instead seeing how a real person is using a fictional character to explore real issues.  Think like an English Major here.
*Then we need sections on other appearances, like we have, preferably expanded.  A more detailed examination on the word "D'oh!" should also be added, esspecially since it is discussed in the lead.
I hope this helps.  Again, I don't have all the information needed, but this is what needs to be done. Fieari 20:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional topic 

message: *First, in regards to the "every state" entry: in the episode Behind the Laughter it explicitly states "the future looks brighter than ever for this northern Kentucky family." I don't have enough information to complete all the links, but Homer and Marge went to Springfield highschool, which has been said in several episodes.  In E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) the family visits the house Homer grew up in, but it doesn't show for certain it's near Springfield.  Other episodes (I'm not sure which ones, but I remember it happening) Homer has been shown at the house with his dad, but I don't remember anything being said about it being in Springfield.  If someone could link these together, it would prove they live in and have always lived in "Northern Kentucky."
*Second, I think a list of things people have called Homer would be a good addition.  I've seen there's been a lot of discussion about cleaning this article up, but I know there have been a lot of things people have called him that would make an addition like that funny.JW 03:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Springfield (The Simpsons)#Where is Springfield?. BabuBhatt 03:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  every state response and suggestion 

message: It is known that Home Simpsons married a woman in Las Vegas. I would've added information about her, but I am not sure of the event (what REALLY happened in Las Vegas with Homer). However, I did see an episode where this so called "wife" came to Homer's house and was then kicked out by Marge. Could someone please add any information about this to Homer's article?--Misantropo 21:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vegas' Wives

message: It reveals in D'oh-in In the Wind, that Homer's middle name is Jay. J.T. 20:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name 

message: In the episode "Duffless", Homer's driver's license says his DOB is 05-12-56. --Chochopk 13:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born 1956 

message: Matt Groening claims that Homer is a Democrat, and he is the creator of the show and the character. He strikes me as the most reliable source of Homer's partisanship. I am moving Homer to the "Fictional Democrats" category.
:Homer has beaten up Bush I and Bush II, as mentioned in a recent episode. That might make him a fiscal conservative, though. Or maybe just a way who likes to beat up celebrities. Robert Happelberg 21:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republican? 

message: It is missing. (the first one C-homer.png) --Ysangkok 19:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image