Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability/Main Page/Development

message: Will the current design still be available as a skin? I wouldn't mind a new front page if it's better for the masses, but I like the current one. Thanks.--AK7 05:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the new design is approved, the current design will remain available as an alternative for those who prefer it.  You'll be able to set it as your browser's home page and use it just as you do now.  —David Levy 05:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not entirely accurate David. en.wikipedia.org would resolve to the new version.  To use the old version, you would have to be at a machine you control, and have planned in advance to bookmark the old version of the page.  All it takes is a few lines of code to let us keep using the old version.  A one-size-fits-all (or most) solution is isn't what's needed.Marktaff 07:55, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to lay the blame on you, but it is. Yes, www.en.Wikipedia.org would lead to this new page. But the Main Page alternates would list the old one. You could set to be your browser's homepage and then ignore the new page.--HereToHelp (talk • contribs) 13:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current design

message: A suggestion for improving the visibility of the search box, since a second one apparently won't be included in the new design: tweak MediaWiki:Monobook.js to make its border yellow (the same color as the border around the current tab) only when on the Main Page. This way, it still fits in with the general look and feel of Monobook, and it won't be overly distracting on other pages. It'll will be just sufficiently distracting on the Main Page that people will notice its presence.
Of course, IANAUE, but it seems to me that this approach would balance discoverability and subtlety decently well.
 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 09:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Search box in Monobook 

message: Hi, can anybody say me, how it is possible, that the "Main page" title in the new design is hidden. I searched everywhere in mediawiki and net, but got no answer. Is it CSS? Java? MediaWiki directive in one of the templates? Thank you very much. --Gorn 14:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This was asked during the draft too, and noone answered. I'm getting the feeling it's some sort of admin secret... Possibly because it would be particularly abusable in some way? Sorry, i don't know. --Quiddity 05:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe it's the mainPageTransform() function in MediaWiki:Monobook.js that does the trick. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 03:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can see the argument with possible abuse, but I am asking because I use the mediawiki engine for our local board games project and i would like to use it there. --Gorn 12:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden Main page title 

message: Should we leave notes on the talk pages of the voters like people do for RFAs? Should we wait until the page is posted so we can tell them the outcome?--HereToHelp (talk • contribs) 03:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess wait till over. --Quiddity 05:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll have t distribute the load: we already have a few hundred votes.--HereToHelp (talk • contribs) 11:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you messages? 

message: What exactly is going to determine the outcome of this vote? Is there a certain percentage that have to be in support for the main page to be changed? Do conditional supports count as opposition or neutral if conditions are not met? BigBlueFish 15:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: see what qualifies as consensus? on parent page. (basically, 70-80% support, but taking weight of arguments into account) --Quiddity 22:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Result of vote 

message: Could we fractionally increase the white space just above the Wikipedia's sister projects heading? The gap above it is noticeably smaller than the surrounding gaps above and below. (I can take a screenshot if what I mean isn't clear.) --Quiddity 09:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Specifically: Could an admin please test this: The Wikipedia's sister projects section is followed by a:  Could we either remove this, or add another  above the section. I think this will create a more uniform headings layout in the 3 bottom sections. Thanks. --Quiddity 06:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further suggestions 

message: Go for it! and I disagree as to how the wording of the election announcement should read.  (See the template's revision history and my posting to his talk page, for an explanation of why.)
I've hit three reverts for the day, and I don't intend to violate the three-revert rule.  If, however, anyone agrees with me, feel free to revert to my version.  —David Levy 14:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed it to David Levy's version for 3 reasons. It's concise, it's less divisive, and the fact that the draft is still changing means that it is still more a discussion than a "vote" here. --Quiddity 06:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:Announcements/Community bulletin board]]

message: Both instances of "Today's" should be "Today’s". This may seem pedantic, but when it's in boldface in a headline, the straight-up apostrophes really stand out as wrong... porges 23:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicer apostrophes, please :)