Talk:Fictional universe

message: I pretty much agree this article hardly makes a difference between setting and fictional universe. At any case this whole article really needs citations. 190.140.251.85 (talk) 07:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm reconciled that this article must exist in some form, given that Wikipedia itself uses the term in its policy statements. However, I would appreciate it if someone could determine exactly what a fictional universe is supposed to be. Serendipodous 19:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Some further explanation of the levels of canonicity that can exist in some of the more developed fictional universes might be helpful. I know this touches upon events like the Crisis on Infinite Earths - but there are some other interesting examples... The Dr Who Universe, the DC universe and the Alien/Predator universe spring to mind off the top of my head, all of which have evolved over decades across a variety of media via a plethora of authors/designers. To me, there's a subtle distinction between universes that take on a life of their own through usage by multiple authors in this way and well-defined settings that are largely the result of a single creator - like, say, Tolkien's Middle-Earth. Dybeck (talk) 21:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Shared universe" appears to be a subset of "fictional universe", so the implication is that not all fictional universes are shared. Serendipodous 22:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge with setting 

message: I see that the reference to Joey and Seinfeld existing in the same universe has been removed and then reverted. I'll assume good faith for now, but can someone please find a citation for this, or remove it if this is not right? I was never a regular viewer of either series, but I'd never heard that. If Joey and Seinfeld are in the same universe, it follows that "Friends" and Seinfeld are in the same universe too, of course. The "Mad About You" reference is OK (via Ursula Buffay and Friends), but could also do with a citation. Dybeck (talk) 16:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Paul Reiser's old apartment on Mad About You is now owned by Kramer. NBC likes liknking up its shows. It's all part of the Tommy Westphall universe. Serendipodous 16:21, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I've tidied up the section and made it more relevant to the definition. It could still use a citation though if you can find one. Dybeck (talk) 12:25, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This whole concept could use a citation. Serendipodous 13:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joey and Seinfeld 

message: Apparently, Don Markstein created and defined this term in a 1970 issue of CAPA-alpha (although when he archived the article on Toonopedia, he did mention the possibility that someone may have antedated him).
I feel that this is a valuable source which should be integrated into the article. DS (talk) 16:47, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he also pioneered the concept, which is important to note.--Jack Upland (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Markstein 

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I've added some sources. More are out there.  Important literary device.  Important list for some of our readers.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of fictional counties]] up for deletion

message: Is Fillory a good example? It's a pretty direct parody of Narnia, and there's a bunch of better known fictional fantasy universes such as Middle Earth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Resuna (talk • contribs) 16:34, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fillory? 

message: I have added a POV tag to this article because it only presents one side - that of fans who use the "fictional universe" concept. There should be a critique of this concept. It is not accepted by mainstream literary theory.--Jack Upland (talk) 21:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit late here, obviously, but just giving my unauthoratative opinion in the interest of resolving the tag, I'm not sure that that's a violation of WP:NPOV. Most of the article lists examples of fictional universes that are pretty unambiguous, as are most examples of fictional universes in the first place. On occasion, there are some examples of the subject that can be disputed (e.g. the "Tommy Westphall universe"), but they aren't mentioned on this page. I'm also not exactly sure what you mean by "not accepted by mainstream literary theory," but only by "fans of the concept." The definition given in the article is disputable depending on opinion, but at most that should be a section tag, and I personally find it fine. I don't know if "sides" really apply here. JœRunner talk / contribs 23:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the tag, interpreting silence as consensus. Please reply to this with any objections. JœRunner talk / contribs 03:36, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I reiterate my objection. Saying you don't understand me is not an argument.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:50, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: This article claims that John F. Kennedy met Neil Armstrong. Do we actually have any evidence of this? I have seen reports that Neil Armstrong said that he never met John F. Kennedy. For example, see here: http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum38/HTML/001883.html RomanSpa (talk) 11:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kennedy-Armstrong Meeting