Talk:Nintendo DS Lite/Archive 1

message: Seems that someone is unable to see photographs, or never seen a Nintendo DS for real.
The face buttons are A/B/X/Y. So the phrase The layout of the controls has been adjusted slightly, with the Start/Select buttons being moved to below the A/B/C/D buttons is wrong. --Olpus 01:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been wondering about that too. The only place I've read that is on Wikipedia. I don't see any other websites mentioning the absence -or- inclusion of the thumb strap. Is there a source to back this information up? --82.175.74.196 11:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: From what I remember reading, the DS Lite didn't come with a thumbstrap. However, it would be nice if someone from Japan could verify this. -- ReyBrujo 15:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, mine (US launch system) didn't come with one, but the back of the system still has a place to attach the strap. The above unsigned comment is either incorrect, or the strap was included with the Japanese units, but not the US ones. -- Alkane-man 02:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Buttons

message: Does anyone who speaks Japanese or is in Japan happen to know if stores in Japan have started taking pre-orders, or at what time they intend to open on the day of the launch? Not talking about import stores like Lik-Sang and Play Asia though that might be worth mentioning too.
Proteus IV 23:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More launch info? 

message: Do with them as you please. Duo228 23:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added new pictures. 

message: To save the time of writing "DS Lite", thereby appeasing the masses, should we start referring to the Lite as the LDS? DSL is obviously taken. This isn't relevant to the article per say, but could be if the term becomes widespread. Or not.
:Save time? You'd have to be REALLY lazy if you can't take the time to spell out "Lite"... It's just four letters!... Oh, wait, I forgot... This is the Internet. Where there are many extremely lazy typists who won't even bother to spell out "you"... LDS is also taken... The Church of Latter Day Saints. :P --BPM 06:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We probably shouldn't use it, as Nintendo has not specified any sort of nickname for the DS Lite.  Call it as you may on your own, but probably not on Wikipedia. --The Ninth Bright Shiner talk  18:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbreviated Name 

message: As said above, I added a color section where I moved the pictures of the navy and ice Lite. I also added a few pictures to the gallery. If anyone doesn't like it then please say so. Duo228 02:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone know how Japan's Crystal White differs from USA's Polar White? --Navstar 23:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added color section, reworked gallery area 

message: http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3808 Some nice comparison shots of the various levels of screen brightness (even the lowest level of brightness is better than the DS's screens!). Interesting... --BPM 06:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lik-Sang test drives the DS Lite 

message: The article needs to be updated to mention its release in Japan (to massive supply shortages and only one colour available). Does it still need the "forthcoming product" tag? Tphi 15:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supply problems/Released in Japan 

message: I'd like to point out that the Tilt-Sensor is NOT an accessory.  It is built in to certain GBA Game Paks, and used only in those games.  I think it's just Warioware Twisted and Yoshi Topsy-Turvy.  I don't believe that a technology built into certian games should be counted as an accessory.  That's like saying that the clock is and accessory for the Game Boy since it was included in the Pokemon Gold and Silver games. -- Grant 20:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessories 

message: It says in the article sometime during the summer the Nintendo DS Lite will be released in the UK. In the infobox it gives and exact release date. Any sources for this date? --Thorpe | talk 19:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date in UK 

message: On February 15th, 2006 there was a http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/02/15/ (press release) by http://opera.com/ (Opera software) stating that they would port their browser to the DS allowing people to surf the net with Opera on the DS. Would it be informative to add a little information about this on the DS lite page?
Omeow 12:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, since there's already info about it on the Nintendo DS page. I think the DS Lite page should only cover information dedicted to the DS Lite, while the DS page covers everything DS. --BPM 06:00, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also soon one can watch TV on a Ds lite,           in Japan.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding info about the Opera webbrowser? 

message: It says that the release date is June 11th and June 30th. A Clown in the Dark 08:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: June 11th in America, June 30th in Europe... Havok (T/C/c) 08:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: If nobody complains, I will convert all the embedded links into references (or someone else can do it if nobody complains). -- ReyBrujo 16:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The competitors section is useless - no other gaming article has a section similar and it just seems like a semi-innacurate advertisement for the other two systems. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.65.219 (talk • contribs) .
**I agree, and what the heck is the GP2X? I never heard of that! It's not really a competitor is it? It's more of a gaming system out at the same time as the DS
(User: Zeldamaster3)
::I agree, and its true that no other game systems have a "competitors" section. I've removed the section.JamesBenjamin 23:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reinstated the competitors section, many other game systems articles have such a section, see .  We need to have a neutral POV here.  Please, let's discuss. --Oscarthecat 21:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the competitors stuff should be moved to the main DS article? It seems to me that the DS Lite article should keep to stuff that is distinctive about the new model. Dancter 21:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Competitors 

message: http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/22/europe-to-get-black-ds-lite/
its quite nice, and since its on nintendo's site, doesnt that give it free lisence? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.11.189.150 (talk • contribs) .
:Yes, we could insert it with the other colors in the gallery, because there are no free replacements yet. -- ReyBrujo 15:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And a correction. It gives us the possibility to use it under Fair use, it is not a free license. -- ReyBrujo 16:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  could we use this picture? 

message: 4CR has a comparative picture showing the DS and the DS Lite rumble packs. It is quite nice. http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/05/29/japan-gets-ds-lite-rumble-pak/ -- ReyBrujo 11:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumble pak 

message: Please leave the picture as it is because that is the most common image for posters. I just replaced an image that was already in the gallery. Before editing an article can people check around in it first? X360 06:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, can we get a new main picture that isn't slightly tilted and pixelated? --Trance 22:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone can make a free image, we can use it. Note that, since there are free images like the current one, we can't accept Fair use images. See the first policy point. -- ReyBrujo 23:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Main picture

message: Would it be appropriate to add a list of what actually comes in the box, now that it's been released in the US and people actually, like, know? Mostly I wonder if the fact that it doesn't come with a wrist strap (or, more to the point, a thumb button) is something that should be noted. User.lain 05:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Box Contents

message: Don't know how to do it, but using an image with the name "IMG 0284" isn't ideal.  Can the image be renamed? --Oscarthecat 21:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that would be a question to ask at the New contributors' help page or with the  template.  But it wouldn't be such a trouble now, would it?  At least it isn't named Image.jpg or something like that.--The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 21:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Fair use, 1st. guideline. Always use a more free alternative if one is available. Also, If you see a fair use image and know of an alternative more free equivalent, please replace it, so the Wikipedia can become as free as possible. -- ReyBrujo 17:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Feel free to find better free images. Wikipedia is not about having award-winning pictures. Dusty or not, it is an Xbox, we are not showing it for marketing, only identification purposes. I can take a picture of my Nintendo DS which has the Nintendo DS logo, but someone will complain the screen is scratched. -- ReyBrujo 20:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image name 

message: I have both a Nintendo DS and a DS Lite and I took some pictures comparing the two to each other and looking at the differences. I'd be willing to put the pictures on this article if it helps with differentiating between the original and the Lite. What do you think? Would this be helpful? --Passerby Cat talk cat 03:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. Just remember to upload them with a free license (like Creative Commons or GNU GFDL). -- ReyBrujo 03:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a perfect comparison picture that was up here some time ago, but it was taken out for some reason. --195.229.242.54 20:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparisons 

message: "On June 14, $18 million Hong Kong dollars ($2.8 million USD) worth of black DS Lites were stolen in Hong Kong."
The reference for this quote, which is marked as "16", leads to a site completely in Chinese. Has anybody got a reliable English source that could be used there?
Schizmatic 01:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there is nothing about this on the mainstream media, and all the reports circulating on the gaming sites apparently trace back to that Sina article. From what I can gather, it seems http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=9727 (Gamasutra) is where most of the English sites caught wind of the news. Dancter 01:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Have edited it to use this ref http://www.play-gadgets.com/2006/06/14/232-million-of-black-nintendo-ds-lite-gone-missing/, daresay a better account of the theft will appear shortly though. --Oscarthecat 02:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: this artical is horendous!
someone needs to clean this up, unfortuanatly, im a terror at editing wikipedia pages. anyone up to it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thealimighty1 (talk • contribs) .
:We are not seers, you need to tell us which parts you think that need cleaning, and why :-) -- ReyBrujo 14:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinion

message: At the end of the article, it says that a BLACK DS lite shipment had been stolen, yet in Nintendo's response to that, they say that WHITE lites had been stolen... Which is it? DarkCat 23:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: Perhaps it should be noted somewhere in the intro that the DS Lite is offically replacing the original DS and will become the standard, and is designed to compliment the Wii.  --Joeblack982 08:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While Nintendo has claimed they will be phasing the previous model out, they haven't confirmed dates. Thus, we can't really just speculate without a reference. -- ReyBrujo 21:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Last I heard the official word was that they would not be phasing the original out as long as there is demand. --Guess Who 00:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: most likely the original ds will eventually just disappear from the shelves once they are all sold out with no real date given, kind of like the original gameboy advance. considering the ds lite is the same price as the original ds, there isn't much of a reason for nintendo to keep making the old model. Cancellorian 11:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

text: It was stated that, as long as there is demand, they will continue to produce the old model.http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65719 Note that, in the UK DS Lite launch, Chart Trak stated DS were selling regardless of the new model, with half the sales being Pink DSs and Nintendogs bundles.http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17965] With the new launch of the Pink DS Lite, they may phase it out in Japan, and as soon as they move to UK, they will phase it there as well. However, this is just speculation. -- ReyBrujo 19:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard 

message: I removed the following paragraph from the article, as I don't think it's necessary to mention a sale.  (If it was, should we then have details every time about when every store has a sale on the DS?)  
 When released to the US and Canada, those signed up to the Nintendo Newsletter received an 
 email about the Nintendo DS Lite announcing that you could buy the Nintendo DS Lite and the
 game Brain Age for the price of $129.99. This was a sale for Father's Day, which
 was then 7 days away.
--Madlobster 01:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it isn't necessary.  There could be dozens of sales for the Nintendo DS Lite across the globe, and we wouldn't be logging all of them.  Good call.--The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 03:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Father's Day Sale