Talk:Blueberry (comics)

message: Propose that It be moved per the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics) guideline, to fall in line with all the others using (comics). Anyone have strong feelings and good reason why not? MURGH disc. 23:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move done. MURGH disc. 16:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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replies: text: A FUR was added. MURGH disc. 22:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: Nothing in English?The Tramp 14:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For a French comic, the series has been rather extensively translated. I think Moebius/Gir(aud) still has a huge international cult status. See http://koti.mbnet.fi/~z14/euro-comics/blueberry.html but note that many of these books probably could be quite hard to find or expensive. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 00:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

text: If you're interested, you could look at other articles with tables, and learn/copy the table format to here, with new information. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 15:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Nice done, pardner! Just take note if some albums have been translated in different formats and/or compilations. P.S. Sign your posts with four tildes. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 01:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Btw, what do all the Roman numerals stand for in the template? You should clarify their meaning, or remove them. They're merely cluttering and confusing, as now. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 01:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Hmmm, I just thought it wasn't an obvious method. If you'd like to mark the months, I think you should use a three-letter abbreviation. Anyway, nice work so far. It'd be nice if you included as many translations as possible, as long as you're working on the table. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 13:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Edit: I just noted it said "mm" on top, it looks fine now. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 13:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I meant other editions/printings in English, of later year, other publishers, etc. Anyway, well done. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 23:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  What is “Egmont/ Methuen”? It keeps getting repeated in internet searches I have made, but only in reference to Blueberry as far as I can see. They are two separate publishers as far as I know, “linked” tangentially by the fact that when Methuen divested itself of some or all of its children’s list, Tintin went to Egmont. Egmont don’t seem to have taken on Blueberry, or re-issued Methuen translations, so have they *ever* been involved? Was Blueberry some sort of co=operative venture? Some people seem to have been confused in the past that Methuen had a number of different imprints for children’s titles, so Tintin books appeared branded as “Methuen”, “Mammoth” and “Magnet”, and may have assumed the “Egmont” name was somehow a further iteration of that process, but as far as I know, they are separate entities, and always were. Jock123 (talk) 21:47, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I based that info on what I found in the books themselves. Yes, it was some sort of a joint venture. Unfortunately I'm a few ten thousand miles away from my collection and can't tell you how they split the publication, printing duties. In my own private collection database this is what I have listed for publisher: Fort Navajo series #1 &2: "Egmont Publishing Limited, Methuen Children's Books Limited", #4: "Egmont Publishing Limited, Methuen Paperbacks Limited" Sorry, that's all I could help... Zoli79 (talk) 21:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: English translation?

message: I guess this page has a lot of useful information, but I think it needs some reorganizing. I thought of the following structure. Any opinions?
1. Synopsis – Overview
2. Publication history
2.1. Original publication history (from Pilote to individual albums)
2.2. English translations
2.3. Non-English translations
2.4. Prequels and sequels
3. Legacy/importance (awards, a new type of western hero, etc.)
4. Characters
5. Movie Adaptation
6. References
7. External links
Zoli79 (talk) 00:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one reacted to my proposal above, I reorganized the article. I think this has a more logical skeleton. If you don't like it, feel free to undo it, or - even better - to expand it. The table is very big, and cuts the article in half, maybe a separate page (list of Bluberry books) would be reasonable? Zoli79 (talk) 00:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to contribute a reaction, it seems well-structured to me. MURGH disc. 00:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I put the Characters section just after the Synopsis, because this is the most used order in article dedicated to comics, and this is more appropriate. Apart this detail, no problem. --Pah777 (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganizing 

message: I see pah777 checked in all B-class criteria. Although the article went through some major development in the past few months, I checked out two of them: coverage and reference. I think the article still has some weak points. First of all the character listing. I think the characters would need a little longer description, original names and most importantly: first and later apearances, role in the saga and of course: references.
One example: Chihuahua Pearl. We get a sentence about she being a choir girl and loving money, but no information on what's really important: Blueberry's unfulfilled (?) love, and sly as a snake.
Any other weak points?Zoli79 (talk) 18:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just wonder if we must include a section "Plot summary". Since most of the albums are related (the plot never finishes at the end of an album), the full story is very complicated, so that it would be difficult to sum up in few lines.--Pah777 (talk) 14:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it would be useful to divide the plot into sagas, and than write a few sentences about each. Although I'm not a big fan of plot summaries on WP... :) Zoli79 (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-Class? 

message: I think it would also be a good thing to include a section "Settings", I believe that it is part of the criteria for an article to reach the FA status. This section must indicate the sites in which the adventures take place and specify if they consist in existing places. It also must deal with the chronology of the story. Here, in particular, it must be shown that Blueberry is a series extremely realist. For example, it must be noted that:
* All the character get older and evolve a lot.
* The adventures take place in real regions, almost no places are fictional.
* The chronology of the story is extremely coherent and specific. Each adventure is dated.
* The chronology is always compatible with the events of the History of United States: Civil War, presidencies...
* Many real events are described in the series, there is no historical errors: the rivalry between Union Pacific and Central Pacific, the deportation/extermination of Indians...
* Some non-fictional characters appear and play an important role in the series such as General Dodge, Cochise, Sitting Bull and President Grant. Indian tribes can also been added in this list: Navajos, Apaches, Cheyennes, Sioux.
* These adventures are founded upon real facts. In the original franco-belgian publication of the album Ballade pour un cercueil, Charlier dedicates four additional written pages at the beginning of the album in which he explains that Blueberry is not a fictional person (I don't know for the english edition). He asserts that he existed and relates his full biography. I do not exactly know if this biography written by Charlier is a joke or not. See here an extract of this text (on this site, it is mentionned "careful, it seems that the information in Ballade pour un cercueil are false"). If someone has more information on the subject, he will be hugely helpful.
A "Graphic style" section may also be required, but it could be merged with the "Settings" section into a section "Style" for example.
Do you/everybody agree with something like that ? If so: at work ! --Pah777 (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Settings section

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