Talk:Budapest/Archive 1

message: The article started to accumulate promotional and advertisement-like links, most typically accommodation links (hotels, apartmans). I'd like to raise attention because as a Dmoz editor I know well that the most heated categories there are the hotels/accommodation cats since it has the money, and these areas press their advertisement websites hardest. I have no problem with them as long as they advertise in the right places, but I am not completely confident that a Wikipedia article is the right place for that. 
If nobody voices their reasons against then I intend to remove all the non-official tourist office external links related to commercial activities like accommodation and tourism (and advise that on other city and country articles, too). --grin ✎ 10:04, 2004 Jun 23 (UTC)
:Okay, I see no objections, proceeding. --grin ✎ 08:55, 2004 Jul 30 (UTC)
::the last link, Hungarian Wireless Community - what has it to do with Budapest?? Alensha 13:50, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promo links should be removed 

message: To the best of my knowledge Ferihegy I is used only for cargo  -  or are there still some charters that use it?  I think the reference should be deleted.
P.S.  One of the hardest things about describing Hungarian pronunciation to Americans is that Hungarians do not realize how bad Americans are at making unfamiliar sounds!  Thus, what is "good" advice for Americans, seems wrong to Hungarians.
Ferihegy I is used by several cheap flight companies. Ferihegy III is improbable to be finished during the following decade. 80.98.87.208 19:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferihegy I 

message: I uploaded three pics from my visit to Budapest last year, but currently only one is used in an article.  They are:
*:Image:Castle of Vajdahunyad Budapest.jpg
*:Image:Kiralyi Palota Budapest.jpg
*:Image:St Stephens Budapest.jpg
If they can be used anywhere then feel free. -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 02:31, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: They're beautiful! Someone should write more info on Budapest, because already there are too much pictures for this short text, and it's impossible to arrange them, but it would be very good to include these photos too... Alensha 17:48, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: The external links section in this article is huge. Can someone who knows the subject check and trim the list? See Wikipedia:External links for criteria. Rl 13:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: Nothing on the city's economy, no per capita GDP, nothing on prominent industries past or present. Has anyone got a source from which we could fill this in? -- Jmabel | Talk 01:54, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy 

message: The baths, the parks, the patisseries? And certainly the Belváros deserves more than just a mention in passing in the list of districts: it is one of Europe's truly great urban districts. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lot's not forget the beer, the veres hurka, and the babes. Dsol 14:38, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texture of life 

message: In accordance with WP policy, please restrict yourselves to comments that are directly relevant to the Budapest page.  This is not the place to discusss the general successes and failures of WP and its policies.  Those discussion belong on user pages or at the village pump.  Future off topic discussion will be removed.  Thank you Dsol 10:02, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please keep discussion on topic 

message: :: The word Pest (or Peshta) is thought to originate from the Bolgar language, (a Turkic language, not related to modern Bulgarian, which is a Slavic language) because at the time of the reign of the Bulgarian Khan Krum, the town was under Bulgar Turk dominion.
: Any evidence for this? The Pest, Hungary article says it's Slavic, which is indeed more likely to me, as there's a Slavic word pesht meaning furnace, and the form that has been retained even shows a Bulgarian reflex of the proto-Slavic *tj and *dj (the word's form is peć in Serbo-Croatian, for example), which matches with the fact that there was Slavic population in the area and this part of the modern city was under Bulgarian dominion for a period in the Middle Ages.  → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 14:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A peculiar fact is that Buda, the other part of the city, is historically called Ofen in German, and Ofen means oven or furnace... now could that be a translation of a Slavic name for the other part of town and why it's used for this part, I don't know. But seems highly unlikely to be a coincidence, as strange as it is.  → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 15:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes sense that they both have parallel etymologies, presumably relating to metallurgical activity. - Jmabel | Talk 03:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pest etymology 

message: Budapest Tourism Office used to have a comprehensive, useful and excellent website until about half a year ago, which has unfortunately been replaced by a new and quite poor site. Yet, the text content of the old site is still available through Internet Archive. If someone should feel like improving the article, they can do so from the source below:
*Sights of Budapest
Adam78 23:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free. Yes, they are notable enough to merit mention, some of them (like the Gellart) by name. - Jmabel | Talk 21:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for improving the article (and/or its subordinate pages) 

message: This article was nominated for Wikipedia:Version 0.5 I failed this article because it has no references, extreme collection of linkfarms, short lead, barely any prose in the article, mostly lists, unnessarry image gallery. Article needs some help. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 06:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  0.5 nom 

message: "The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews...they demoralize our country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is torturing Hungary." -- CARDINAL MINDSZENTY of Hungary, quoted in the B'nai B'rith Messenger, January 28th, 1949  --172.128.121.7 03:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't think an article on Budapest needs to contain a passage on Mindazenty's anti-Semitic bigotry, though it was doubtless real enough. - Jmabel | Talk 07:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006 Protests -- Those Behind the Recent Problems in Hungary 

message: On December 16, 2004, The World Factbook, a publication of the United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)  added an entry for the European Union.  According to the CIA, the European Union was added because the EU "continues to accrue more nation-like characteristics for itself". Their reasoning was explained in this small statement in the introduction:
The evolution of the European Union (EU) from a regional economic agreement among six neighboring states in 1951 to today's supranational organization of 25 countries across the European continent stands as an unprecedented phenomenon in the annals of history...
... for such a large number of nation-states to cede some of their sovereignty to an overarching entity is truly unique...
... the EU ... has many of the attributes associated with independent nations: its own flag, anthem, founding date, and currency, as well as an incipient common foreign and security policy in its dealings with other nations. In the future, many of these nation-like characteristics are likely to be expanded. Thus, inclusion of basic intelligence on the EU has been deemed appropriate as a new, separate entity in The World Factbook. However, because of the EU's special status, this description is placed after the regular country entries.
I might add that EU citizens have EU- numberplates, -passports, drivinglicense, the EU institutions, and regular election. I hope you support the small extension I made... all the best Lear 21 18:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complement EU 

message: It would be nice to include more information on the castle hill, especially the extensive labyrinth system under it which is quite unique to the city. I have some photos here http://dheera.net/photos/thumb.php?q=europe2005/budapest and might consider writing about them at some point unless someone here is more knowledgeable about this. Dheerav2 18:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on castle hill