Talk:Alex Kapranos

message: Moved VfD discussion to Talk:Alexander Kapranos/Archive VFD.  There's not really much debate about their or his notability now... — ciphergoth 19:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: He cannot have been born in two countries and is therefore a British musician, of Greek decent....— ciphergoth 19:17, 2 sep 2007 (UTC)
Generally, nationality is established at birth by a child's place of birth (jus soli) and/or bloodline (jus sanguinis). Nationality may also be acquired later in life through naturalization.....— ciphergoth 19:17, 2 sep 2007 (UTC)
His birthplace is England, Scotland is not a separate country and therefore you cannot be naturalised there. You remain English or consider yourself British, you cannot 'become' Scottish in any sense other than referencing, which carries no weight in any respect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skipsey (talk • contribs) 11:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality

message: Page changed per request. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 13:09, 11 Sep 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Descision

message: Page changed per request. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 13:09, 11 Sep 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Descision

message: Why is this titled Alexander?  Even his Guardian column is bylined "Alex Kapranos".  I'll move it if no-one objects... — ciphergoth 19:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Alexander or Alex?

message: Page changed per request. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 13:09, 11 Sep 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Descision

message: Ok. So there has always been a thing about his age and how Alex has "lost his passport." Anyway, the profile says he is 34 but i've read articles where Alex himself has said he is 29 and that those rumours are bollocks. So i'm wondering what the truth behind his age is. There should be some sort of source to say he is 34.. it's all a mystery to me still.. 34 or 29?
:He is indeed, 34. Otherwise he's been 29 for 5 years...
::He finally said that he was 34.  Actually he said that he's been writing songs since he was fourteen, and that was twenty years ago. Starla Dear 16:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  His age? 

message: I appreciate a citation needs to be found regarding Kapranos' South Tyneside/Wearside links, but should it really be in question? I thought it was common knowledge. I've heard it referred to in a number of music magazines including Q and NME. You can hear it in his accent and singing voice, just as much as his Glaswegian accent. Anyway, I've found a Guardian article written by him which tells of his links with the area
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,1655966,00.html
His grandmother is from South Shields, so he obviously spent a lot of time them. There is also this
http://homeboynet.wordpress.com/2006/11/05/the-greek-arch-cook-franz-ferdinand/
“My dad played guitar. He used to play in beat groups in the 1960s. He’d play R’n’B and blues in the working men’s clubs of South Shields. I have very early memories of my dad holding down chords and me strumming."
Is this adequate?
hedpeguyuk 09:33, 11 Feb 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: South Shields/Sunderland

message: There seems to be a debate emerging the relevance of so-called "slash" fiction, written by teenage girls who fantasise that their idols are homosexual in order to gratify themselves.
Whether this has any relevance to this article is highly questionable. It appears to have been added to assuage the egos of the protagonists of this fiction. It has no direct relevance to Kapranos himself.
::Agreed.  --DavidShankBone 19:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above 2 (or 3?) partly/uncertainly unsigned messages (1 or 2 sock puppets?) indulge in ad hominem arguments and feeble speculation unworthy of an FF fan. The FF slash is a big phenomenon and AK has talked about it more than once. The quotes are there. It seems entirely 'relevant' for a trivia section therefore. Soane 16:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trivia sections are discouraged, see Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles and are often used to justify inclusion of various bits of information that may or may not be interesting for an encyclopedia entry.  What would make the Slash Fiction notable on this page is if there are newspaper or magazine articles talking about what a phenomenon it has become in Alex Kapranos's life.  Thus, this may be better suited for the Franz Ferdinand page.  Regardless, I do feel that a Live Journal site of fiction casting the band as gay doesn't merit entry into Wikipedia unless it truly is a phenomenon.  Having the band mention it may thrill the Slackened Ties participants, but it hardly makes them noteworthy to the rest of the world, for whom Wikipedia is written.  Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not should be read.  --DavidShankBone 17:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slash 

message: I don't personally have an opinion on this, but others do.  How does one decide if a person is Scottish or English?  It can't be discerned genetically, so is it a parental thing?  If so, does his father actually make him Greek, or is there a rule similar to the Jewish tradition that his mother is the one who decides his status, which would then be English?  Or is it a cultural issue, which would undoubtedly make him Scottish.  I personally have no horse in this race, but it needs to be decided to stop the revert back-n-forth.  And does anybody have a linke to what he considers himself (which is only incidental to this discussion, since subjects don't decide their own WP entries, but it does inform us on the matter).  --DavidShankBone 01:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scottish or English?

message: We can not use copyrighted photographs when we have our open-use photographs, per Wikipedia:Fair use.  I understand that every fan with a camera phone wants to put a grainy band pic up from the show they attended, but perhaps instead create a gallery.  Right now, the best photographs available of Kapranos are the book store shots, several angles of varying quality can be found here:  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kapranos.  But this artcle is not about Franz Ferdinand, it's about Alex Kapranos, the singer, the writer, the person.  So a "band shot" is not necessary, just like a book store photo of Alex Kapranos is unnecessary on the Franz Ferdinand page.  Get a better close-up, quality photo of Kapranos, put it up.  But let's take the page a little more seriously than every fan with a camera phone who wants to see the "concert that changed their life" on the page.  --David Shankbone 12:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Image:Alex Kapranosconcert.jpg, or a cropped version of it? Shows him fairly clearly. Archibald99  13:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with that photo is it is grainy, it's not nearly as clear as the bookstore shot, and it is of unknown copyright.  --David Shankbone 13:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: The bisexual citation doesn't link to anything and doesn't correspond to any external links, and I seem to remember it used to link to the interview. Can anyone fix this? Vanityjunkie 15:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Link

message: Is this category relevant? There's nothing in the article to suggest so. -88.110.221.64 11:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing in the article that justifies either portion of that, what's worse.  We seem to have an assumption that he's to be considered "English" based on his place of birth, and no sourcing.  (And contrary to the obvious duck test.)  I'd propose we remove that cat, and that we scrap "English" and "Scottish" in favour of the much more verifiable and less subjective "British".  Alai (talk) 23:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:English atheists

message: If anyone wants to listen to AK reading the book, it is here  62.64.202.50 (talk) 13:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sound Bites: Eating on Tour with Franz Ferdinand

message: the new picture's crap, what was wrong with the old one? 188.222.41.105 (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: Is this person British or Scottish or what nationality? I also removed his ethnicity from the lede. It looks like that is covered in the family early life section. --Malerooster (talk) 02:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ethnicity is now commonly defined in terms of both external ascription and self-identification, as the article Ethnic group makes clear. The latter aspect should not be ignored: "Franz Ferdinand frontman Alex Kapranos has bitterly complained that “nationalists” keep changing his Wikipedia entry to say he is English." → . --IIIraute (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality and ethnicity in lede 

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