Talk:Mickie James/Archive 1

message: MickieJames.com is her official website, for all intents and purposes. Please leave it where it was. Thank you.
No. Unless you can provide documentation, it is not. Please sign your comments. Sephiroth storm 01:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please stop moving around External Links

message: I don't know if it's true or not, but does anyone have any info on how Mickie James was a nude model prior to joining WWE? The reason I ask is because a friend of mine sent me a link that has a bunch of nude pics of her. OutRider2003 12:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nude Modeling

message: Why is the Mick Kick and the Chick Kick both on Mickie's move list? They're the same move. I'm removing the Chick Kick.
--Killswitch Engage 04:50, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mick and Chick Kick

message: There's little mention about the real interesting story of 22 (as I saw it); that of the 'unusual' fan reaction towards James (mirrored in the main event when former favourite Cena was booed). As the article currently establishes, storylines had set James up to be a heel, with a collection of violent attacks, psychotic outbreaks and general stalker-esque tendancies towards fan-favourite Trish Stratus. They also teemed her up with the heels, Victoria and Michelle against the 'good girls.' But during the Mania match, the fans almost unanimously sided behind James, much to the evident surprise of ringside commentators. I've heard it suggested that this was a reaction to an introduction of any interesting character (and talented wrestler) into the women's area which has recently rolled along on little more than Wilson and Michelle's silicone, but whatever the reasons, I feel it deserves mention, especially since it seemed to be completely unanticipated by the WWE creative team. - Hayter 08:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes fans just turn on a wrestler in a town. There's really no reason as to why. If this was more of a trend against Trish, then I would be inclined to probably go more into detail. OsFan 14:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WrestleMania 22

message: —When did Mickie and Kenny get engaged?And what proff is there that they did?I would really like to know:)205.188.116.12 16:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She doesn't have a MySpace. 69.140.12.149 21:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mickie engaged to kenny??

message: Can someone please provide some proof that indeed Mickie's Spinning DDT is called the Mickie-DT! Otherwise I don't think it belongs on here. I am going to put up a citation notice--please don't delete it without adding a citation! --Fr3nZi3 15:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Mickie-D-T"

message: Why?  Mickie James is from Richmond, Virginia...that's been very well documented.  Someone please change that, please?  If anything, she should be part of "Wikiproject: Richmond".  ThePacMan 17:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a matter of decorum, only project members should be adding or removing their respective project tag.  This should have been brought up in WPLouisville project talk before removal.  Nevertheless, upon review, this removal appears to be acceptable. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 15:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject: Louisville???

message: Would someone mind using this as the source? Ringbabe.net doesn't have it anymore.
http://www.owow.com/frameindex.htm?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.owow.com%2FRingsideWith%2FMelinaPerez%2FInterviews%2FInterview_10-15-05.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.12.149 (talk) 19:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source for the Melina/Mickie off-screen dislike

message: can someone please erase the information on her posing nude for Leg Show magazine? :( its disgusting
:Wikipedia is not censored, not even for pornography or profanity. That's official policy. Valley2city 04:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nudity Issues

message: I am against putting down generic moves down on the page as signature moves--like "flying forearm"--that is a universal wrestling move, which is equivalent of putting say: "hammerlock" as a signature move. Also universal roll ups, and counters shouldn't really be listed either. If Mickie uses a one handed cartwheel into a monkey flip--write monkey flip, because one handed cartwheels are generic reversals that everyone uses. --Fr3nZi3 19:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hogan's "signature move" is a leg drop.  JBL's was a Clothesline. If it's something that's consistently used by them, it doesn't matter if it's a generic wresting move that everyone uses. Abalu 04:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Signature moves

message: Somebody keeps readding a fansite to the page.Action Practitioner 23:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fansite

message: I see no evidence that www.mickiejames.com is her official website, the site has no diclaimers or notice of affiliation with WWE. It is the property of a Kevin R. Fields, TheWrestler.net. →Posted by Sephiroth storm 23:00, 19 April 2007 
If that is the case I guess it should be removed. Govvy 10:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Website?

message: That can't be the name of her DT! It's called The "Mickie-DT", Joey Styles even said that was her finisher's name in The Cheerleader Match. Im changing it.
THANKS, SOMEBODY FOR GETTING THE IMFORMATION THAT IS WAS A MICKIE-DT, I KEPT CHANGING TO THAT, BUT THEY CHANGED IT BACK.
Just because he said it once doesnt change what its called all the time. its called the impailer ddt or implant ddt, via her wwe.com OFFICAL profile. Myselfimmortal 21:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overzealous DDT

message: Why Isn't the Stratusfaction listed as one of her finishing (or at least signature) moves? She used it for a long time while Trish was still wrestling. dR 11:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Signature Moves

message: I don't know who put that in that Mickie used Trish Stratus' theme until New Year Revolution 2006 because that is COMPLETELY wrong.  Mickie used her theme up to TABOO TUESDAY 2005, when they finally gave Mickie her own theme music.  It changed to "Obsession" (her latest theme) at New Year Revolution 2006.  Get the facts right now.
Oummm... sowwy, lol, that was me.... but someone edited by saying "exclusive", lol, i still remember hearing it the day after New Years Revolution... anywayz, i found out Mickie used "Im Just a Girl" by Gwen Stefani in her OVW Days. Heres the link for proof http://youtube.com/watch?v=mnHpznEMqy8 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reno211 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mickie James' theme error.

message: :Image:16 mickie.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot 04:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:16 mickie.jpg

message: WHOEVER OWNS THIS PAGE PLEASE STOP DELETING MY CONTRIBUTION ON YOUR PAGE, MICKIE CERTAINLY DEFEATED VICTORIA AT SMACKDOWN ON 6/29/07. WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??? YOU NEED TO GO TO WWW.WWE.COM TO FIND OUT WHAT IM SAYING IS TRUE. I AM SO PISSED BECAUSE EVERY TIME I CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PAGE YOU DELETE IT.JUST SO YOU KNOW, WIKIPEDIA IS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY, EVEN THOUGH YOU CREATED THIS PAGE THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU OWN THE PAGE!!! OH MY GOD. PLEASE LEAVE ME A MESSAGE USER :Polarbear12345  18:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We're not denying that Mickie James defeated Victoria. That's not what is in dispute. The reason it is being removed is because it is week by week information. A single match here or there is not notable. Only matches that add to her overall career are included. -  Deep   Shadow  02:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Please read over WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Your yelling and your unfounded accusations are quite the turn-off. Also, please see WP:PW, as that page lists many of the project policies that wrestling articles are held to. If you have any questions, then you may ask them on the project talk page, or you may feel free to ask me personally on my talk page. Cheers, The Hybrid 03:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mickie James V.S. Victoria on Smackdown 6/29/07

message: It has come to my attention that Mickie James wrestled in Florida Championship Wrestling under the name Alexis Larree. The spelling of the last name is different, but she is listed on their site as a former Champion, and is currently their #1 rated wrestler. Source: /www.fcwwrestling.com Sephiroth storm 01:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FCW?

message: Whoever put that disgusting picture of Mickie James as her main top. Plz change it because it doesn't look good at all. Thankyou. 76.215.176.31 22:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that picture is a free-use image and the best one we've got. Unless you have a better picture of her (that you yourself took), I wouldn't complain. At least she has one, unlike a lot of other articles. Nikki311 23:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It was deleted because it wasn't a free-use image. Nikki311 00:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Because they don't understand copyright laws. The Hybrid 09:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Bull-honkin' shit. The picture you tried to add to the page (:Image:Mickie_James_Milan_Fashion_Show_2007.jpg) is a blatant theft from the WWE page. Same for the image (:Image:Melina Milan 2007.jpg) you attempted to add to the page for Melina Perez. And I suspect if I were to look around the WWE site further, the third image you uploaded today (:Image:Mickie James as Champion.jpg) will be found to be a copyvio as well. Tabercil 22:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Not copyrighted huh? So I guess WWE stole this from your "friend" then. -  Deep   Shadow  02:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Picture

message: Originally Posted by TheNewExtreme.com
Mickie also confirmed the name of her two finishers, her round house kick which she calls Goodnight Kiss (or A Kiss Goodnight she said) and her Tornado DDT which she said is called Mickie-DT.
She was on a talk show called "Talk of the Town" which she probably did an awesome job like usual and she confirmed her moves names.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akabuga (talk • contribs) 12:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it called A Kiss Goodnight, Goodnight Kiss, or both? Miztahrogers 02:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Is there an official transcript or YouTube video to prove this? Nikki311 03:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mickie James Confirms Her Finisher Names!

message: There is no proof. Give me proof. AquariusBoy01 21:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this person is asking for the exact link to where she confirmed the names. Nikki311 03:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Goodnight Kiss

message: The picture of Mickie James has a fan in the background that seems "exited" or stunned, isn't there another picture that you could use just to save him some embarassment? Also i'm not that kid! Halo legend 00 05:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Profile picture

message: I think a brief mention should be made of her work in Women's Extreme Wrestling in her early career. If MCW and KYDA Pro get mentions, WEW deserves one as well. She worked several shows for them and I believe they pre-date her TNA work when it comes to her first PPV appearance (WEW formed in Feb 2002 and pre-taped their PPVs. TNA started with live PPVs in May 2002, so I'm not sure which aired first). I'd do this myself, but it would be unsourced and someone would probably delete it before it was verified. --Jimmy Wang Yu: Version 2 (talk) 09:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WEW 

message: This article mentions one of Mickie's signature moves as "Goodnight Kiss",but it was called "Long-Kiss Goodnight" on WWE by Jim Ross.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.131.108 (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goodnight Kiss 

message: I think the article is great, but I wanted to mention a couple of concerns:
*The first sentence of the Ohio Valley Wrestling section is awkward. It implies that the match with Dawn Marie lasted two years, which is obviously not the case. Could it be changed to "as well as wrestling in a tryout match..." or "After two years of..., she was given a tryout match..."? I don't want to make the change myself, because the tryout match may have been in the middle of the two years.
** -  Deep   Shadow  01:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-GA Review comments 

message: I was just wondering what happened to her work out side of wrestling? I know she has done some modeling and she posed nude for a low class mag, also was she not in one of Timberland's videos or not? What happened to this info, do you not feel some of it deserves inclusion on James biography? Govvy 10:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Her posing nude is included, and she was not in Timbalands video, only a few of the Divas were and it asnt her. --Metal to the Max! 00:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modeling career. 

message: Does the magazine listed as a source actually say that it is Mickie James by name that was in the photos?  Her official website denies that she posed for those pictures.  As is, the citation seems rather dubious and the material doesn't seem all that relevant to the article.Cwc2311 (talk) 20:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, she does not have an official website. -  Deep   Shadow  20:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The site someone had mentioned in the archives appears to be down now.  Regardless, does the magazine actually mention her full name?  If not, the citation lacks verifiability.Cwc2311 (talk) 22:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The Legshow article calls her "Micki", and its a wrestling-oriented photoshoot (the full title of this article is: "Micki Meets and Defeats Or, Grappling for Panties). There is very little doubt that its her. And, as Deep Shadow mentioned, Mickie James doesn't seem to have an official website. --Celtic Jobber (talk) 05:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posing Nude 

message: There is some dispute over Mickie's height. Both her and Trish Stratus are listed as 5'4". When her and Trish appeared next to one another, Trish is definitely taller. I can backup that Trish is in fact 5'4" because I have seen her in person. However, I have never seen Mickie in person. Mickie appears to be even smaller, probably about 5'2". Anyone got any incite on this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.182.142 (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no dispute. They are both billed as 5 ft 4 in. There is a difference between billed height and real height. -  Deep   Shadow  03:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Height?

message: Mickie has currently done many things sucha s winning several matches week to week, winning for her women's team at survivor series and the most recent winning the chance at the wwe women's championship at armagedon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.147.217 (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Week-by-week occurences are not notable unless a feud results in them or a a title is actually won. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: I am passing this article because I feel that it is at the same level as other wrestler bios. One small thing, per the MoS, you don't actually need citations in the lead if the statement is sourced elsewhere in the article. There are quite a few in the lead, so perhaps some of them could be trimmed? -- Scorpion0422 17:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Other reviewers have wanted citations in the lead, saying that information should be cited the first time it is mentioned. Nikki311 03:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, WP:LEAD says that citations aren't needed in the lead if it's sourced elsewhere. However, if there is a quotation or a potentially controversial statement, there should be a source. In fact, I've seen FACs opposed solely because of citations in the lead. -- Scorpion0422 03:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review

message: Would it be safe to say Mickie is now feuding with Beth over the women's title? Or is this more of a filler until Candice comes back and not worth mentioning until it's over or Mickie defeats Beth for the title?
:Not sure. Either way, so far, the feud has not really gone anywhere...Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feud with Beth 

message: Take out all the little trivia crap off of her personal life cuz if Melina dosent get trivia on her page,then why the hell dose mickie get it!"Oh look at me!im mickie and I like the dallas cowboys and ridding horses!"(and kissing women!)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.93.155 (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trivia is discouraged. Melina's article HAD a trivia section, that was eventually merged into the prose of the article, in accordance with WP:TRIVIA. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: That sounds almost like you're planning to vandalise this article or Melina's just to make a point. -  Deep   Shadow  08:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. I have some time to kill today, so before I go back to expand 'Mania 23, I'll merge Mickie's trivia section into the prose. No cure for vandalism like prevention... Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I actually look at the article, there is no trivia section, it's all in prose... Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take that crap off! 

message: Mickie and Ken have officially broken up. They are not even dating anymore. I know this because she has announced it herself.  he is going to tna and shes staying in wwe they have broken away from each other there no longer togethercontribs) 15:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

text: That could have been his sister for all we know. You need to provide a published source like an interview or article that says he and Mickie have broken up. Nikki311 19:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mickie & Ken 

message: "Ice Breakers" was Mickie James' first theme song while on Raw and the theme she used in TNA was "Girlfriend".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.142.252 (talk) 02:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know what production library the song can be found in, so it can be properly sourced? Mshake3 (talk) 02:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entrance Music 

message: Please do not post what happened in London, England this evening - the show has been taped, but it has not been broadcast anywhere yet. Steveweiser (talk) 23:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RAW Spoiler 

message: On Trish's page, it says she managed Beth Phoenix, which she did for 2 matches, so shouldn't Victoria be added to Mickie's list seeing as she managed Victoria for those 2 same matches?.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.92.46 (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Managers 

message: Is it just me or does this seem like useless trivia? All about wrestling (talk) 21:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The second part does, but the first part about her education is important. Nikki311 22:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: On an interview with Jenny McCarthy on wwe.com, James talks about making her sister watch a movie with her, but Mickie's personal life section doesn't mention her sister. Here is the link: http://www.wwe.com/inside/superstartosuperstar/exclusives/mickiejennymccarthy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 7wwepotterfan (talk • contribs) 16:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister 

message: The link to the nude photos of Mickie James doesn't work. Noble12345 (talk) 16:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mickie Jame nude 

message: sHE IS SET TO APPEAR ON THE SHOW "pSYCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrCstJA6fjE  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystal5996 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PSYCH 

message: In a recent interview with St. Louis, MO radio show ITD Morning After, she has stated she is in fact 23 and not 29 as is currently reflected on her Wiki.  Listen to the interview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I35tG3oEq0Q. Its in the first 30 seconds.
Lareview (talk) 21:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Age is a tricky issue. Wrestlers, especially the females, often lie about their ages to seem more appealing. If she was currently 23, then in 2000 when she posed nude in a magazine, she would have been 15, which is highly illegal. I'm thinking she is indeed 29. Nikki311 23:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: James' third title reign came about as a result of mistake during the Triple Threat match when Victoria failed to kick out of the pin in time, hence the immediate rematch. Is that worth adding to the article? It's referred to in Power Slam magazine, issue 172. James Casey (talk) 17:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third Title Reign 

message: Are phrases like this really necessary? The Spiderman page doesn't say "he was booked to be bitten by a spider". Or that "Spiderman was booked to beat the villian". The Superman page doesn't say "Superman was scripted to bring Lex Luthor to jail". Why is wrestling singled out for this type of treatment? Are they implying wrestling viewers are too stupid to realize it isn't real?  Philname1 (talk) 19:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:IN-U, as to why it needs to be 100% clear that wrestling is scripted. The reason that wrestling articles must be written this way, while movie articles do not, is that although it seems like commonsense, a lot of people really do still believe that it is real. This is evidenced by the edits during the whole Vince McMahon's limo blew up and he died on TV debacle. Nikki♥311 19:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Booked to win"