Talk:Six o'clock swill

message: I added the "Six o'clock swill in popular culture" section. It doesn't gel well with the rest of the article, so maybe it could be worked into the main text, or expanded as a section. An An 23:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Six o'clock swill in popular culture 

message: OK, check this one out. It's a drawing, kinda crap, crowd outside a pub (very relevant). 1945. Australian War Memorial copyright (or so they claim). Thoughts about public domain-ness? If it wasn't published, it might not be PD. Lack of picture is annoying me so I'm adding a random one of beer. pfctdayelise 14:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I've read that some bars in those days had a trough-like urinal running the length of the bar, so that patrons could urinate without having to leave the bar (and avoid wasting valuable drinking time), and that a few of these have been preserved. Does anyone have any further information on this? Iantnm (talk) 21:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: sounds like a myth to me also. the book, "Caddie, A Sydney Barmaid" mentions some men doing this on a few occasions, which may have lead to the myth, though i guess it could support the theory as well. In writing about Caddie (not yet uploaded) I've read a few feminist critiques of barmaids/ the swill/ etc, none have mentioned this, but i expect they would have if it was documented. WotherspoonSmith (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urinals alongside the bar? 

message: I think that this article needs to include at least a mention of shouting (Round of drinks).  I'm supposing that it came about during the six o'clock swill as an easy way for a group to get drinks. One person would be delegated to shout to get drinks either at the table or going up to the bar.  That person would have to shout his order to be heard above the din of the crowded bar.  "It's your turn to shout mate."  Is there any evidence that this is the derivation of the term? WikiParker (talk) 15:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Oxford dictionary, it originated in the mid-19th century as a call to a waiter to refill drinks of a group. So, no.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:44, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Shouting

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message: If someone could find an appropriate scholarly source on tiling to eye height, and tiled front-bars, and troughs in the front bars, and public urination on walls, the bar, and occasionally other patrons it would enhance this article on the *social history* of the six o'clock swill as a participant and the "no women in the front bar" rule.  It would also probably allow an appropriate link to Troughman.  The current article doesn't have the zest of the violence, urination, degradation or horror that early closing enforced and reinforced. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I just did a Google search using "six o'clock swill urination tiling". Got a lot of good hits. I recommend you do something similar. I don't have time to do much about it right now. HiLo48 (talk) 07:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urination