Talk:Public opinion and activism in the Terri Schiavo case

message: Props to Proto for doing the legwork to handle the split.  I'd like to see this article dressed up more.  Pics, etc.  Also, if/when we get a Terri Schiavo template together, we should get it in for reader navigation.--ghost 28 June 2005 15:31 (UTC)
Thanks Ghost, much appreciated.  It also needs the relevant links and cites bringing over from the main page. Proto t c 30 June 2005 08:42 (UTC)
I remember when Michael Mitchell tried to rob that Florida gun shop to get a gun to go rescue Schiavo.  Despite how serious the entire situation was, this was so idiotic it was almost comical.  I remember about the first thing I thought was something along the lines of a guy taking a knife to a gun fight.
JesseG July 1, 2005 01:36 (UTC)
:And if I remember right, that was the one part of the case that Leno did eventually make a joke about.
:JesseG 05:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: Enough time has passed since her death to gather ideas on the significance of the case on public opinion going forward. patsw 00:52, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath 

message: All the external links to articles, commentary and advocacy have been moved here from the main article. Proto||type 10:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved in 

message: Does anyone know whatever happened in the cases of Richard Alan Meywes and Michael Mitchell?  Last I heard the two had been arrested for the crimes they apparently committed, and in Meywes case formally arraigned.  But I haven't heard of what happened afterwards with these two.  Does anyone know if they plea-bargined, if they went to trial, and if so what the verdict was?  I've been looking and haven't seen anything on the internet about these two.
JesseG 05:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outcome / Criminal Cases 

message: At this diff, we again find Calton causing trouble. He revered my edit, removing every single link that I put in, supposedly because of angst with one particular link that is a blog.
I don't think he is right to oppose that, but at least he makes a half-way argument about not being notable. (I say this to contrast the arguments Proto made about blogs not being acceptable; Of course, he is wrong: Many blog links had been in the article after his edit.)
I will be fine with any consensus by the community on the links in question -if for not other reason than to make Calton stop arguing, a worthwhile motive, but not the best motive, I admit. (We should have as motives simply to make an Encyclopaedia article with sufficient details -and references to back them up.)
So, in short, Terri Schiavo's article seems OK, but help is needed at the Public_opinion_and_activism_in_the_Terri_Schiavo_case article -specifically, the links section.
PS: Any user can look at my recent contributions to see that I am a responsible editor, just in case anyone wants to know. Plus, I was the one who created the pretty Template:TOCcenter template you see at the top of the Wikipedia_talk:Village_pump page and seen in the page history here, which, for some reason, is needed: The Table of Contents doesn't automatically show on the Village Pump's talk page, like it used to -and like it does on this page. Anyone can help here??
In closing, if I am not around to vote, then my "vote" for each and every link enumerated is "add this link," but in the end, if some links are voted down, I would hope that at least some of them could stay -to strengthen the references section.--GordonWatts 09:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and made an edit revision and reverted to a prior stable version, but although I did not include the North County Gazette link, I want to clarify: My "vote" for each link is to "add" -including the Gazette link. I just wanted to clarify that I'm voting "for" its inclusion, and the only reason I don't myself add it is because I'm a peace-living person who does not want to be responsible for World War Three on this wiki.--GordonWatts 09:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More help needed to resolve ongoing Schiavo disputes 

message: Removing some citations so that there are "five and five" is ok I guess, but leaving Kevorikian, who would have killed her, while removing Ralph Nader, who would not have, I think is a mistake, even though I realize that Kevorikian did think that keeping water from her was inhumane. For that reason I am "switching" Nader for Kevorkian. MartinGugino 23:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok by me, but you can add back in links to one side if you balance them with links from the opposing side -so long as the links section does not get too large.--GordonWatts 07:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations for and against removal of tube 

message: Deleted: especially those unable to communicate their health care choices, and 
This is the only case where the guardian is looked to. If the patient is able to make a choice, the guardian is not asked.  Martin |  talk • contribs  07:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath 

message: I'm a brand new Wikipedian, and I certainly don't want to re-open old wounds here, but I couldn't help noticing the lopsided References section.  By my count there are 11 references "opposed" to removing the tube and only 5 "supportive" of removing the tube.  Given that public opinion at the time was overwhelmingly in favor of the Schiavos' right to follow the court order and remove the tube, shouldn't the selection of References reflect more balance?  (I fear I've asked this question in a clumsy manner; please excuse!) FarishC (talk) 17:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wondering 

message: The offending sentences are: "After complaints that the polls were not actually asking questions that pertained to this case, or asked leading or confusing questions, Zogby did a very specific poll. This poll asked people if they agreed with starving and dehydrating to death a person who was in exactly the same position as Terri. The exact question was "If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," The results were very dramatic. 79% said the patient should not be denied food and water, while just 9 percent said the patient should."
I don't see how the question is neutral at all. Yes, withdrawal of feeding tube is essentially denying food and water, but the strong images conjured up by starvation is bound to bias people against approving it. The overwhelming 'no' vote is indicative of this. In the same way using the word 'murder' in e.g. an abortion debate automatically biases people against the life-ending act. This question also neglects to mention the many other factors involved, such as Michael Schiavo's approval, which I'm sure will change the minds of some people.
At the moment I think the sentences should be deleted, but I am only tagging the section since I'm not very familiar with the source or the circumstances of the case. Banedon (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've killed the entire paragraph.  The sources used don't seem to pass WP:RS themselves, so we'd need secondary sourcing to indicate the weight, relevance, and reliability of these particular polls.  --Aquillion (talk) 21:02, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 2015 

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