Talk:Shilling

message: On a Danish discusion-forum link title I found a reference to this article, refering to the fact that the shilling wasn't issued untill 1548. I will not question that, but only remark that, to my knowledge the shilling was used as a figure many hundred years before that - but only as a way of counting prices (which would then be paid in the only "real" coin - the penny). I am sorry, but I do not have any links support this - do anyone know if I am right?
Well - if I am, then this article might confuse people to think that the concept of the shilling only existed after 1548, which would be misleading.
I've added the note about the alternate (modern) meaing of the phrase "to take the King's shilling" and updated the description of the phrase to "cut someone off without a shilling" to make use of the present tense. I'm under 30, from Scotland (although I now live in London) and am very familer with these phrases and regard them as being in current usage, particularly in Scotland (though I would estimate they are more commonly used by older members of population). I'm not sure how common they are across the rest of the country though, both phrases do seem, anecdotally, to have dropped out of current usage in southern England. FridayUK 02:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

message: Does anybody know how many shillings were in a Mark, or where I could find such a conversion? I'm trying to make a conversion from Elizabethan England. Thanks 193.1.172.138 13:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Per my recollection and Mark (money), 160d. (two-thirds of a point or 13 shillings and fourpence). I think it's confused on the Scots Merk though. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 14:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Oops, two-thirds of a pound. Sorry. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 23:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shillings and Marks

message: Well more than one-half of the text of this article, as of 19 March 2007, deals with varient issues of English shillings minted prior to the Commonwealth.  Now I know England invented the shilling, but the coin was used for more than 300 years after that point in history, and variations of this coin were minted in a wide variety of Commonwealth countries, and this article badly needs to be completely rewritten. 12.147.59.132 15:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite please

message: Not to be picky--but I believe that what is meant by "(sans-serif) apostrophe" is really "single prime," is it not?
--AlanH 12:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find any reference anywhere about it being either an apostrophe or a prime. Can anyone cite a source for this "triangular shape" symbol being used as a shilling symbol? -- abfackeln (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fussy typography stuff 

message: I am editing a book on 1820s U.S. and there is a reference to shillings. Is this true? Until when were they used? When did dollars and cents take over?
:This May help  Vera, Chuck & Dave 14:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  United States? 

message: The picture is labled a scottish shilling, how can you tell? A Scottish shilling dated 1938 has a thistle and saltire on either side of an upright lion, am afraid this is the only example of a Scottish shilling i own although.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moustan (talk • contribs) 21:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pics 

message: Why was the term "bob" used to mean 1 shilling?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.24.167.51 (talk) 13:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question - "Bob" 

message: At end of the introduction on this page, it states "In the past, the English world has had various myths about the shilling. One myth was that it was deemed to be the value of a cow in Kent or a sheep elsewhere." 
However the associated page Shilling (British coin carries a direct contradiction: "Originally, a shilling was deemed to be the value of a cow in Kent, or a sheep elsewhere." 
So which true? Kildwyke (talk) 05:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direct contradiction between associated pages 

message: The alternative nickname of hog is mentioned, but not explained. At one time, the reverse of the shilling bore the device of a boar's head (presumably a reference to the 
heraldic device of Richard III). From this, and indicative of the comparative worth of the coin in those days (sharply in contrast with the effects of Devaluation), derives the expression going the whole hog. Nuttyskin (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hog 

message: Do we have a WP:FORK violation? In addition to this article, we also have Shilling (British coin)so in essence we have two articles covering the same thing. Should this article become a simple disambiguation article, pointing to East African shilling, British shilling and AU/NZ/IE etc shillings if such exist? John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two articles primarily about the British shilling 

message: Before an edit war breaks out, let's see what a WP:RS says. If someone would like to disentangle it [above my pay grade], the 1933 edition of the OED says
 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Considering recent archeology found 14th-12th century Phoenician trade networks in England; it would be more credible that proto-german shkel comes from shekel a currency that is actually confirmed as being traded in the region by Phoenician traders in the 12-14th century BC England.
Patrick.N.L (talk) 14:56, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The Carolingian monetary system origin for £sd is well documented and widely cited, so we would need a rather more convincing preponderance of reliable sources to give space to this conjecture. Maybe the German Schilling (coin) (from which the English word is derived) could in turn be traced back to proto-german shkel? This could be a research opportunity for someone (and it is perhaps more credible as a cognate than the accepted origin, ). But right now it is a WP:FRINGE idea and so is WP:UNDUE. But if it gets serious traction, it can and should be added. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @John Maynard Friedman Indeed it is still just from a research paper of two linguists so probably still fringe. Patrick.N.L (talk) 07:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology (s)kelH- As (s)kelH- (“cut, separate”) or as a derivative of Shekel