Talk:List of philanthropists

message: Certainly these people gives millions of dollars to charity, but I think we should compare it to their net-worths. For example Michael Bloomberg is listed to have donated $300 million. His net-worth is $20 billion according to his wikipedia page. Therefore he only gives 1.5% of his net-worth. I think many middle-class people give much more than 1.5% of their net-worth. Any thoughts on this matter?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ru-G Corp. (talk • contribs) 18:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: There is no doubt that George Soros invested a huge amount of his money into all kinds of things, that some people might call "philantropic", but that is not a NPOV. [rant and possible WP:BLP violations removed]
* The 2 sources for his "philantrpist" nature are extremely questionable
[more removed]
If there are objections, please claarify, why "philantropist" is a NPOV and how these articles could possibly be considered neutral sources and confirming the claim.
--2003:E7:B70E:E702:10F1:E75D:63BA:6232 (talk) 09:44, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You only mention sources in the lead. They do call him philanthropist and there are also many sources in George Soros#Wealth and philanthropy. Scanning the reference section shows many sources with philanthropy/philanthropist in the title. A Google News search of philanthropist George Soros finds many others. If you donate a huge amount of your own money as Soros has done according to numerous reliable sources then you are considered a philanthropist. It's not about how you got the money or what else you do. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is George Soros really a philantropist? 

message: I had always associated that word with rich people who are trying to do some public relation and avoid taxes until reading this article. What changed my view is listing RMS on that list. And from the description, it is true one is left with a feeling he is a philanthropist. This triggered a thought, Nelson Mandela can easily and nicely fit in that list. Others i can think of from the top of my head is the standard oil crook, Soros, Walton (The Walmart guy) though i think this had more to do with fear of communist affecting his business, the U2 guy, what the heck is his name, Bono or something (Kind of looks like he really want to help Africa out of poverty) and a ...i have run out of it
I've deleted Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and RMS, because "philanthropy" is a side-effect of their primary work.  More on this below. --72.92.131.6 02:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would you call Nelson Mandela a philanthropist 

message: IMHO, the criteria should be activities of philanthropy, not motive(s). And to be considered a philanthropist, one need not do that exclusively. There is ample opportunity to elaborate on specifics in each individual article. Very few people (if any) are all good or all bad. Vaoverland 01:59, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Quoting from the article: "A philanthropist is someone who devotes his time, money, or effort towards helping others." Out of time, money or effort, money is the easiest part for the filthy rich.  There are not many Mother Teresa in the world, but there are more than enough rich people who are willing to trade a tiny portion of their great fortune for fame and recognition (e.g. being listed here in this article.)  Some of these rich people figured that if they don't donate the money to charity, Uncle Sam will get a bigger share of tax anyway.  It is a win-win situation for them to become a philanthropist regardless whether they really care about helping others. I am not saying all rich philanthropists do this for the tax break, but that partly answers your question. Kowloonese 23:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

text: According to this criterion, mother Teresa would be out of the list.  Please don't do that!  Kowloonese 02:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropist? 

message: The list started out in alphabetical order by the surname.  When people added to the list, they didn't sort in the proper order.  Now the list is only mostly sorted. Perhaps a line should be added to the top to specify the sort order explicitly.  Kowloonese 02:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: list order

message: 
Dear 71.71.6.113: in the abscence of any in depth discussion of the reason for adding the POV-because template to the article, I'm removing it from the main article, and placing it here on the talk page. If anyone feels the need to restore it, feel free to do so, but please give more detail on why you think the article is not NPOV. (Better yet, just Be Bold and fix the article.) - That said, the article is just a stub/definition. Should it be merged with philanthropy instead? -- 19:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *This section is from 2006. If you want to make an official proposal to merge now then see Help:Merging and moving pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV? 

message: Now you can expand the article at your leisure.    The Transhumanist   13:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot to both you and Jerzy - the article is better than ever now! I am quite confident that the fact that all bullets contain annotations will discourage much of the unexplained additions we have seen of late. — Sebastian (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up complete 

message: If the list grows large, then we can keep the most notable examples here, and present the whole list on its own page, calling it the "List of philanthropists".    The Transhumanist   22:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As it is now, the article is little more than a list;  why don't we just move this to List of philanthropists now, since anything we say about philanthropists is just going to be redundant with the main philanthropy article. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 21:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I support the move if the list grows significantly. Currently it looks more like examples than a Wikipedia list to me. PrimeHunter 00:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: I removed the only external link "Information about famous philanthropist Andrew Carnegie" and gave the edit summary "External links to single philanthropists are more suited for their own article".  This article largely seems to me like a list of other articles and I think we usually only make external links in the other articles in such cases. If an external link covered several philanthropists then I might support it here. PrimeHunter 03:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: in the beginning paragraph, aswell as many other paragraphs throughout this article, ive noticed several cases of minor or extreme bias or opinion, such as "(such as funding art instead of fighting world hunger)". should this article be more closely policed for instances like this? Krispykorn 00:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias? 

message: Imran Khan should be on the list too.  He worked countless hours on Skukat Memorial Hospital -SKMH.  Imran Khan, former cricketer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.1.170 (talk) 19:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imran Khan 

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.156.229.149 (talk) 16:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was vandalized yesterday. I fixed it 18 hours before your post. If you still see the vandalized version then try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the entire article written with capslock on? 

message: Most agreed on the move to the new name, so I did it.  I realize there wasn't complete consensus at the time, but nothing has been happening lately.  When articles like today's featured J. K. Rowling link to philanthropist they probably want the philanthropy article, not this one.  I glanced at some of the backlinks to philanthropist and it seemed like the best choice.
I removed the merge proposition on both pages due to the name change, if anyone disagrees please feel free to put them back.  --B Fizz (talk) 13:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved 

message: Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal has pledged he will donate $32 billion but has not actually donated it as of now. I don't think this qualifies him to be on the top of the list until it is actually donated. Is a pledge significant enough to allow for already being placed on the list?
Flessner89 (talk) 23:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal; money pledged but not given 

message: Hello,
I've found a great resource to add some American Philanthropists from the past: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/hall_of_fame/ 
I'd like to add the following philanthropists to the wikipedia "List of Philanthropists" page with short bios and a citation to their bio on the Philanthropy Roundtable's site:
Bernice Pauahi Bishop
Peter Cooper
Bill Daniels
St. Katharine Drexel
James Duke
Harry Earhart
George Eastman
Thomas Eddy
Don Fisher
Zachary Fisher
Benjamin Franklin
Mary Elizabeth Garrett
Stephen Girard
Conrad Hilton
Ima Hogg
Herbert Hoover
Ewing Kauffman
W. K. Kellogg
Sebastian Kresge
Eli Lilly
Nicholas Longworth
Alfred Loomis
Oseola McCarty
Nettie Fowler McCormick
Andrew Mellon
J. P. Morgan
John Olin
Raymond Orteig
David Packard
George Peabody
Thomas Perkins
J. Howard Pew
Henry Phipps Jr.
Enoch Pratt
Julius Rosenwald
Margaret Olivia Sage
Ellen Browning Scripps
William Simon
Robert Smith
James Smithson
Leland Stanford
Nathan Straus
John Templeton
Judah Touro
William Volker
Madam C. J. Walker
John Walton
George Washington
Isaiah Williamson
Please let me know you thoughts on this. 
Livy17 (talk) 21:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add More Philanthropists 

message: The list states that he "donated all his gold to charity."  No source is listed for this claim.  At Mr. T's article, it states "He stopped wearing virtually all his gold, one of his identifying marks, after helping with the cleanup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. He said, "As a Christian, when I saw other people lose their lives and lose their land and property ... I felt that it would be a sin before God for me to continue wearing my gold. I felt it would be insensitive and disrespectful to the people who lost everything, so I stopped wearing my gold."  That's considerably different from saying that he "donated all his gold to charity".  If a proper source cannot be found to support the claim, it should be removed. Bricology (talk) 22:47, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. T 

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message: Azim Prem Ji, Founder of Wipro and donator of 21 Billion Dollars. Why the third most giver is not in notable List ????  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.16.83.59 (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not Azim Premji is added in Notable philanthropists List at starting 

message: Why Mr aziz Premji does not appear in the list . He donated usd 21billion to the charity Niteen kumbhojkar (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aziz Premji of wipro India with 21million USD donations ..not in the liat