Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Template

message: *Should contain a link to Ethnicity in the opening paragraph
*Need to work out how we will deal with extinct groups and those whose identity is disputed
*History
**Origins of ethnic group and/or origins of its identity
**Targeting in ethnic persecution
*Population and Geographic distribution
**Population history (i.e. change in numbers, geographic distribution; for many groups, the changes can be very dramatic)
**Percentage of the population of different countries
**Geographic history (e.g. migrations)
*Countries, para-states, ethnic political parties, ethnically based liberation movements, etc.
*Linguistic variability
*Religious distribution
*Sub-groups (and, vice versa, super-groups). We probably want to look into some anthropological hierarchy of ethnic groups
*Cultural description, where this can't just be referred to an article on a geographic entity
*Should include a discussion of kinship groups and the need for  coalitions for survival [ + added by 169.207.89.188 11:52, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_Groups]]

message: I've just added the section ==Applicability of the term "ethnic group" to GROUP== to the template. This is, for example, where one would discuss (often very controversial) issues like:
*claims by Israelis and some others that the Palestinians are not properly an ethnic group.
*status of a mixed-ancestry group of Native Americans not recognized as a "tribe" by the US government, but considering themselves in those terms.
*whether the Chinese, taken as a group, have enough in common to constitute an ethnic group and, if so, which people who are Chinese by nationality might not be considered Chinese by ethnicity. (Consider, as interesting cases in the Chinese context, Tibetans, Chinese Moslems, Huks, Northern vs. Southern Chinese generally, Manchurians.)
I know I'm stirring up a hornets' nest here, but the fact is that we do have to talk about all of these issues somewhere in an encyclopedia, and the issue at hand is how? Right now, I may be featuring this section too prominently in the template article, but I'm trying to spark discussion here in the talk page as to how we intend to talk about these things in the Wikipedia. -- Jmabel 07:56, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Further Discussion

message: In the template,
: <important subgroup> and <"Sibling" groups>
aren't they duplicate and potential source of POV (as to importance)?Mikkalai 19:14, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Important" and POV

message: IMNSHO, we are about ready for prime time. My only concern is that, so far, I've written all the sample articles. I wouldn't mind too much if I find myself being the one who goes slowly through existing articles applying this, but I really think we will learn something the first time someone other than me tries to use this. Oh, well, we may learn it in a "live" context. 
Thanks to lots of you for help & suggestions. I certainly could not have brought this so far alone. -- Jmabel 02:22, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Ready for prime time?

message: I suggest adding Religion to the template, just below Language. The reason is of course that religion, along with language, is often one of the main characteristics (sometimes even a defining one) of an ethnic group. --Kpalion 09:24, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like a good idea. Does someone want to follow up on this (in the standards document and in the places where the infobox or template used?) -- Jmabel 16:23, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: I don't think all the numbers in the taxobox should be bolded. It places an unnecessary emphasis on them – granted, the number of people is relevant, but it's not really something that needs to stand out that much. --Joy [shallot] 19:23, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  bold numbers 

message: For languages, we have categories like :Category:Languages of Kenya. Is there an equivalent category for ethnic groups? Something like :Category:Ethnic groups of Kenya or :Category:Peoples of Kenya? I've been searching some time but I haven't been able to find anything. — mark ✎ 22:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I made it. The first one, that is. — mark ✎ 22:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category? 

message: Irish                      	Irish                       	Irish
Total population:          	XXXX                        	
Significant populations in:	IrelandXXXX                 	
Language:                  	Irish, English              	
Religion:                  	Predominantly Roman Catholic	
Related ethnic groups:     	Celtic
  Scottish
  Welsh	
--Revolución 21:53, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Irish infobox 

message: I would suggest adding the ISO 3-letter codes for languages to each ethnic group, plus a link to the Ethnologue (www.ethnologue.com) where more information about each language can be found
TeamKayan 02:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no ISO codes for ethnic groups. Language is only one of several markers for ethnicity. - Jmabel | Talk 16:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ISO codes

message: Would anyone here object to the classification section being moved to the first section of the article following the introduction. As stated not all articles will need the classification section, but i think its important those that have a need for one present it at the start of the article rather than the end. Thanks BritishWatcher (talk) 20:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification section