Talk:Trinity College, Kandy

message: Listing the names of so many Notable Alumni on this page has made it really hard to read and navigate. So I suggest that in accordance with pages of other universities (such as Harvard University and University of Oxford) we create a separate page called "List of Trinity College Kandy People". 
Until then I'm moving the Notable Alumni section to the bottom of this page.--snowolfd4 18:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Considering that they're almost entirely all redlinks, I'm tempted to remove them from the article entirely. wikipediatrix 20:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dear Snowolfd4, you make a fair point about the redlinks not being surprising: It has to be recognised that relatively fewer contributors to the English Wikipedia come from Asia (especially when you consider that Asia accounts for a sizable proportion of the World's population). But, this is bound to get corrected in time and redlinks will hopefully turn blue! Incidentally, may I present some arguments why you don't necessarily have to create a separate page for notable alumni. First, it is by no means standard for universities and schools on Wiki to always have a separate page for alumni (see for eg Winchester College or Dulwich College). Second, precisely because Asian institutions might be less well known by the typical Wikipedian, the list of notable alumni, by virtue of the job titles and ranks involved, provides a relatively 'independent' indication about the influence and status of a school. In this sense, I see the alumni list as more informative than some other sections of the page that might be of most interest to insiders and alumni of the school. Just an opinionSuresh 21:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

text: "there are still good stylistic reasons why the main body of an article should not be unreasonably long, including readability issues"
And Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which concentrates on providing the reader as much information as possible, not just to describe "the influence and status of a school".
I do agree on the chronology section though. I'll try to move it to a seperate page History of Trinity College, Kandy when I have the time. The second section too needs a serious rewrite. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 15:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Redesign 

message: This article already cites relavent sources. The  tag is unnecessary. Please do not add it without prior discusion.
Regarding non compliance, I agree the "The College Today" section does need a rewrite, but that doesn't mean the whole article should be tagged. If there are further problems, please list them in detail before adding the tag. No generalizations please. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 02:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources / non compliant tagging 

message: Hakimu added a link to the class of '96 website in the External links section. I noticed one editor had previously removed it, and when he added it again I removed it as well. He put it bak with the edit summery
:Please do not remove link since it is importnat for people to what other site related to trinity are out there on the web
I personnaly think that we should't keep the link cos for one if we have the 96 link then we'll have to give links to all other individual batch websites. That won't be nice.
Also according to Wikipedia policy WP:NOT WP isn't a collection of external links. And I don't know if the website provides any further important info not listed in this article.
And someone may always add the tag  which says
I didn't remove the link yet cos I'll like to see what everyone else thinks about this.--snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 18:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid I agree with ALL of Snowolf's reasons; I don't think it that appropriate to have a link to individual batch websites. In addition, the home page of this particular batch website has rather too many spelling mistakes etc. - this will not reflect that well on what is supposed to be 'the best school of all'! Suresh 19:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to individual Batch Websites 

message: The addition was by User:Inshafc, with this diff, 12 August 2011. Can be rewritten in a more encyclopedic tone. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:29, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for spotting that, ! Unfortunately it was not the only copyvio in the article. I agree with, but have not followed, your rewrite suggestion; perhaps the merge I have suggested below would provide an opportunity to do that - based on independent reliable sources, of course. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chapel section copyvio issue 

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: https://web.archive.org/web/20050510012900/http://www.trinitycollege.lk/history_&_heritage/history_&_heritage.html and http://trinitycollege.lk/college-chapel, among others. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and according to fair use may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: It's the chapel of the school. Unreferenced and unencyclopaedic content; there's no indication of independent notability (or indeed of any notability at all). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Have now rewritten the article. It is notable in its own right - in that it is one of the first christian churches in Sri Lanka that was designed & constructed based on traditional Sinhalese architecture. It is now properly referenced to establish its notability. Dan arndt (talk) 06:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Trinity College Chapel, Kandy]] 

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://trinitycollege.lk/evolution-of-trinity-college-kandy. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and according to fair use may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As a recent major editor to this article I am exteremely interested to see where Justlettersandnumbers believes these copyright violations exist. I have undertaken a check with the duplication dector and fail to see where these alleged copyright violations exist. It would appear that Justlettersandnumbers hasn't really done his homework before removing significant portions of this article. As a result I reverted his edits until such time as he can justify them with actual facts. Dan arndt (talk) 12:53, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: , as you can see from this DupDet report the content you restored to the page included considerable copying from the website of the school. Please take care not to add copyright violations to Wikipedia again. You then appear to have done much the same "homework" that I did, since you removed most of it, leaving the edit summaries "removed copyright violations" and "removed all traces of copyright violations". I assume that you did not remove copyright violations that you couldn't see? The rest of the section appears to be close paraphrasing from the same source. It is also without references to independent reliable sources. Can you suggest any possible reason why it should not be removed, along with the rest of the unreferenced and unencyclopaedic material you have added back into the page? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:28, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

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