Talk:John Dunstaple

message: In E. Power Biggs' "Treasury of Early Organ Music", he attributes the Agincourt Hymn to Dunstable (Owre Kyng went forthe to Normandy). Has this been disproven? I know Biggs certainly took liberties with his editing of music, so perhaps this was just a pet theory of his. Anyone know?
:The best I can do is "maybe".  It is considered highly likely that Dunstable wrote a lot of the anonymous English carol repertory of the first half of the 15th century, but it is not known which pieces he wrote.  The only one attributed to him in an early source is "I pray you all" (which has a "J.D." with it).  I don't think that is the same carol (the "Agincourt hymn" is usually classified as a carol, e.g. in the New Grove).  Cheers, Antandrus  (talk) 20:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: Made "Influence" a separate section, I figure if anyone wlaks away with automatic response Dun:Cont. ang., fons et origo, he's ok. Use of cantus firmus extra credit (althougbh I thought that was Power).
*Did leFranc say that D. influenced Dufay and Binchois? You'd think I would have asked for that clarification first before writing it.
*I thought the transl. of "contenance" was kind of klutzy, so I cheated sort of and put in the exact translation, figuring a) people could remember "the knight of the woeful countenance, and
**b) I will link it to Wiki dictionary. Trouble is, I don't know how.
Adios,
---Shlishke (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shuffle to create "Influence" section; query re leFranc and Wiki dictionary link 

message: In the compositions section, it's noted that Dunstaple composed masses with a cantus firmus. Ain't these cyclic masses, and should the Wikipedia page on the cyclic mass be linked?  Also, just contributing to the 'probably' debate, I think it's reasonable to say 'probably born in', as we really are guessing, owing to lack of documentary evidence, but 'probably the most influential English composer' is bordering on personal opinion. Would 'one of the most influential English composers' be better?  It's more on-the-fence!Accipitres (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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message: I'm a bit dubious about the "surviving portrait of Dunstaple" -  isn't it a bit fanciful that a portrait survives of a 15th century church composer? The picture seems to have come from Last.fm, but no listing of provenance, which makes me suspicious it's just a picture from a CD cover or something. Happy to be shown to be wrong. Rob (talk) 21:02, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to have been successfully identified as a patron of Dunstaple, the file has now been renamed. Rob (talk) 21:21, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: Power is a bemuddlement of Bower. Of Old English roots, the meaning either 'bur', 'a chamber; a cottage; a shady recess' or otherwise a bowmaker.
So the rightful wording should truly read: 
"He was one of the most famous composers active in the early 15th century, a near-contemporary of Leonel Bower"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.73.43 (talk) 20:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting suggestion, but would need a citation or it looks like original research - nearly all surnames in this period have different spellings in various MS, if they are even credited. At the present time, the consensus is that Power was his surname. Rob (talk) 22:45, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talking of "b" and "p",  Leonel Power lastname should be Bower not Power