Talk:Simeticone

message: This article still needs one of those fancy tables with a picture of the chemical and etc. found on other pages like advil Granite T. Rock 06:20, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think this is possible. See the PDMS article. It says: Activated dimethicone, a mixture of polydimethylsiloxanes and silicon dioxide (sometimes called simethicone), is used in over-the-counter drug as an anti-foaming agent and carminative. Since it's a mixture (including polymeres, which have variable molecular formulas and thus variable molecular weight) molecular weight, formula etc do not apply. Kevin Hughes 00:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: , although not "before long"... --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 07:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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message: "Despite being useful in the treatment of gas, simethicone does not appear to be useful in the treatment of infant colic."
This implies that colic is caused by gas, which isn't the case. Shermozle (talk) 01:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infant colic 

message: The text says that Simethicone is a mixture of polydimethylsiloxane with silica gel, while the image in the box shows a mixture of polydimethylsiloxane with silicon dioxide. Unless silica gel and silicon dioxide are the same thing (and then their articles are wrong), one of them (text or image) is wrong. Albmont (talk) 19:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image inconsistent with text 

message: This article was originally created under the INN , simeticone.  In 2008 it was moved to the USAN name, simethicone (which you can't see anymore).  I had it moved back to the INN today, when I realized what the INN was.  There is very solid consensus per WP:PHARMMOS that we name drug articles per INN. Jytdog (talk) 07:15, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Citation 3, GI.org, has this to say "Simethicone products have been promoted as treatment for gaseousness but their efficacy has not been convincing."
There was no evidence linked on the page, just names of the authors. A Physician is not data.
It should be noted I have seen cause and effect relationships using Simeticone on my baby. Effect, he stops crying(assuming it killed his gas). 
I find the language too dismissive given the weak citations. Parents everywhere talk about Simeticone. This article desperately needs to talk about the use in babies. 
Regarding the Drug.com citations are to the "Food and Drug Administration. Digestive aid products for over-the-counter human use; tentative final monograph. [21 CFR Part 357; Docket No. 81N-0106] Fed Regist. 1988; 53:2706-14. (IDIS 240339)", but I was unsuccessful finding this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TangleUSB (talk • contribs) 22:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is 'no evidence', is poorly backed up 

message: An extensive online search produced more studies that seem to support both
# the effectiveness of Simeticone in vitro
# the effectiveness of Simeticone in treating certain bowel symptoms
I would amend the corresponding sections with information from these studies, while being aware that several guidelines do not agree on an established effectiveness in vivo.
If anyone should find an error in my assessment of the sources' quality, I would welcome a correction of my edits.
Here's a rough list of sources I will be including:
* https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/simeticone/
* https://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/Gas-X-simethicone-2675
* https://www.kup.at/kup/pdf/9192.pdf
* https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15114732_Mechanism_of_antifoaming_action_of_simethicone
* https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2002.01322.x
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6256934/
* https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298082623_A_comparative_study_of_dimethicone_and_supermint_anti-flatulence_effects_on_reducing_flatulence_in_patients_with_irritable_bowel_syndrome
* https://www.karger.com/Article/PDF/286002
LordPeterII (talk) 11:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you have removed one of the sources I quoted, . I am not angry about that, much to the contrary! However, could you please share with me how you identified it as a predatory source? I tried as best as I could to only quote legitimate articles, and could not at the time identify this journal as predatory (it claims what you'd expect for it to be legitimate, peer-review and such-and-such). I'd like to avoid such mistakes in the future, hence the question. Also, I am going to remove that part of the section, since the claim is no longer substantiated. --LordPeterII (talk) 13:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's a few ways to check. The easiest is to make use of WP:UPSD (if installed correctly, you'll see that reference in red in this revision). There's also WP:CITEWATCH and JzG's lists which supplement those efforts.  Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It will also warn to double check the ResearchGate links above for instance, since ResearchGate does not filter against preprints and predatory journals. The second RG link above, for instance, is to Der Pharmacia Lettre, which is not reliable.  Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:26, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that indeed works. Kudos for creating such an automated script, it'll certainly help me in the future :) And true, I already realized ResearchGate is problematic, hence why I switched to citing the source directly in the end. But good to know the script also reminds about that. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding more sources & studies that indicate an effectiveness of Simeticone