Talk:History of animation

message: The article states steamboat willie to be the first to link sound and Animation. Wasn't it Max Fleischer not Disney to do this? I would do it but don't have a source to link and unsure how to mention Fleicher in a section about Disney.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.159.132.48 (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Steamboat Willie First

message: I just visited the main Animation page and it's mini-history of animation is actually more detailed, logical, and well-written than the paragraphs in this article over the same material. I'm one of the Wikipedia newbies you're not supposed to bite: is there any reason why the pertinent section on "Animation" can't be moved to this page? I'm not sure what the netiqette is on that.
Also, I think dividing up the history of animation into "present" and "future" is very problematic, especially if "present" starts with 1892. Instead, I suggest that this article would be more logical if written into histories on particular types of animation (cell animation, stop-motion, CGI, etc.) as already has been begun? I think that will help readers who are looking for information on the history of a particular kind of animation, and also illustrate how many different techniques were being explored simultaneously.--Orkadelthia (talk) 23:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If this page was better a few years ago, then is there a way to revert parts of the page to the higher-quality sections from the better version? --Orkadelthia (talk) 13:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ideas to improve this article

message: Excuse me please:
Can anyone explain me who Fady saeed was ? 
I cannot find him in anywhere ...
:Neither can I. This page is in desperate need of some serious work. I'll see what I can do. Any volunteers for help? I'm surprised, I'd imagine this was a popular subject. Andacar 03:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Fady saeed"?

message: There are links all over the article poiting to a reference list, but the reference list is empty, and seems to have been for some time. What happened there?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.25.145.220 (talk) 00:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: What Happened to the References?

message: It's all broken up into various countries - maybe most people feel that the main topic is too broad to properly handle.  You'd really need an expert to write a long article without putting unjust bias in any one direction while keeping it all structured.  The problem is that, at any one time, there were very many different, even contradictory movements happening in many different places around the world.  The History of music has a similar problem, and it is also broken up into various articles by region.
I think a more logical place to start would be to fill out the smaller pieces - the "History of country animation" articles - and then perhaps combine them once those are in place. Some of these are quite developed (eg. History of Russian animation), while others are a mess (History of French animation) or nonexistant. Esn 06:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite needed?

message: Not directly related to the topic at hand, but I've just created :Category:Animated film directors. I thought people with this page on their watchlists might be interested in adding some directors to the new cat. Insouciance 13:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Animated film directors 

message: Does anyone recall a weekly festival of international animation that was produced by the NFB (National Film Board of Canada)?  It was broadcast on PBS in the 1970s, at least in the Boston market, on WGBH of Boston. Dogru144 20:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Animation television show in Canada

message: Can somebody get the video clip image on the bottom of the page to a decent thumb size? Now, it's way too big... --Janke | Talk 10:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large video image 

message: This article is very poorly written and unorganized and needs to have an entire rewrite done.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyser Söze (talk • contribs) 01:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: "An Egyptian mural, approximately 4000 years old, shows wrestlers in action. Even though this may appear similar to a series of animation drawings, there was no way of viewing the images in motion."
*Actually, there is, and it's fairly simple. You put the pot on a pottery wheel, and spin it, adjusting the speed until it appears animated. 173.8.205.234 (talk) 02:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Egyptian Pottery

message: Calling murals, pottery etc. "animation" is a modern fallacy. Animation (as understood today) is an image in motion. A cave painting, a mural or a bowl may certainly show the artist's intention to depict motion, but it is not animation, since it could never have been seen in motion. Spinning the bowl without a mechanical shutter will only show a blur. Insisting that it is animation gives a patently false impression. Please furnish proof other than a modern "faked" GIF if you intend to call the 5200 year old bowl "animation". --Janke | Talk 19:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient "animation", Persian pottery etc. 

message: How is this article even meaningful if it doesn't mention Gurdy the Dinosaur? It's hard enough to find information on it as it is. This is a terrible article that meanders everywhere and needs to be more concise. 71.9.89.15 (talk) 01:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Gurdy? 

message: film and video are very different, if you could use the appropriate terminology or give me your graces to edit this material i would be thankful.
Film is sequential photography and Video is digital imaging, academically they are not interchangeable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.97.2 (talk) 21:48, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video? 

message: This article suggests the flip book is an invention of the late 19th century. It is much older than that, being widely mentioned in the early part of that century, and perhaps inspired by the blow book which dates to the 1400s. See this as a single example of many. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The flip book is older 

message: This article is a disorganized train wreck and an example of everything wrong with Wikipedia. (Notice the comment from 2007 pointing out it needs a rewrite.)  Unfortunately, like most editors, I have much bigger fish to fry than to spend the 12 hours it would take to clean up THIS mess. --Coolcaesar (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a mess! 

message: IMO, the list should be drastically shortened or moved to its own entry.  --Janke | Talk 07:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Firsts" list 

message: I have reverted an IP several times, who insists posting the same, uncited "first". I have asked for a ref, but none has appeared. Can someone with admin powers do something, please. --Janke | Talk 05:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angry Birds - 1 Billion earnings?  BOMojo says only 350 Million worldwide ... 

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message: This is the only lead I've seen on Wikipedia to date that would benefit from beginning with the phrase "listen up, troglodytes". 
Listen up, troglodytes: The history of animation started long before the development of cinematography. Humans have probably attempted to depict motion as far back as the paleolithic period. Shadow play and the magic lantern offered popular shows with projected images on a screen moving as the result of manipulation by hand and/or some minor mechanics. ...
— MaxEnt 18:39, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listen up, troglodytes 

message: A long part of the current article contains mostly lists of titles per country. This part could get even more ridiculously long when we'd fairly start putting in lists for every country in the world. 
Probably very few people look at this section anyhow: it manages to hold on to ridiculous claims (something like "my country's cg animated feature from 1996 is considered for some as the first CG movie in the world" is actually in there).
Without context (not even mentioning authors) the lists of titles just don't convey any relevance to animation history. Many of the included titles just don't seem to cut it as milestone animations that might belong in this artcile (who from the UK likes to have Thomas & Friends: Journey Beyond Sodor represent their country as their very recent contribution to the art of animation?). 
Please consider whether included information really adds anything to the article. For instance, is the fact that an animator born in a specific country (but having a career in another) having been a guest animator on a popular title (e.g. Raoul Barré on Felix the Cat) really relevant? Should we mention every contributor for a successful title who is born in a different country?
Parts of the section form a repetition of information stated before in the article (at least for much in the United States section and for instance the complete Argentine section)
Some region-specific aspects of animations really had or still have a strong influence worldwide (like Japanese anime), but lack description in the article
I intend to delete most of these sections at some stage and replace it with "see also" lines for sections that at least already contain a link to a main article.
If there's any information in there that you think is worthwhile, please incorporate it into the overall story or move it to a relevant article (create one if necessary). 
Please let me know if you think there are better solutions or if you can explain why these sections should stay.  
Joortje1 (talk) 07:22, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your country's History of Animation 

message: In this section, it says, "Animators were not yet properly credited for their work". Yep, even in this article, the producers are credited but not the animators. Surely Wikipedia can do better? --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 08:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cartoon Superstars — the animators? 

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