Talk:Bikini Bottom/Archive 1

message: Perhaps the paragraph listing characters should be spun off into its own page?  Either that or give it a category heading and bullet list like the others.  Thoughts?
-- Ventura 21:22, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
:*I agree, it makes the page too long. -- Bobman123 22:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters?

message: What is this? -AMK152
*It is from the Squid on Strike episode
**No, it's actually from "Hooky" --CrazyLegsKC 06:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Chum Famine of 1959?

message: *There is no proof of Squidward and Patrick's birthdates. Can someone find proof? Otherwise, I will just delete those. -AMK152 01:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Ok, I just removed these pieces of info. -AMK152 01:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Patrick and Squidward's birthdates

message: *Can anyone give me any proof of this? Otherwise, I will delete this. -AMK152 14:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fishitto Fishoi and 1330

message: *The article mentions that "The garage can only be seen in the early short Reef Blowers," but I believe it is also visible towards the beginning of the episode Naughty Nautical Neighbors (around 02:30 in the Complete First Season). Can someone verify this?--Dadadoom 21:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spongebob's Garage

message: Unfortunately, folks, lame as it is, the Bikini Bottom national anthem is a song, and song lyrics are copyrighted. I deleted them. :-( --Tysto 21:11, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
*True, but someone added them again.  I will delete them. -- Bobman123 02:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: National anthem

message: Why does sombody keep deleting the no public nudity law? In some episodes, there is a law aganst public nudity. --D-hyo 15:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen every episode and I don't remember ever seeing a "public nudity" law.  Can you reference the episode? --AndreniW 21:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In "Bossy Boots," Squidward rips off his pink KK uniform (ending up naked) and a police fish comes over, writes a ticket, and sticks it to Squidward's crotch.  That could imply a "no public nudity" law, even if it isn't explicitly stated. --69.69.161.249 23:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Okay then, I see. -AMK152 17:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Law 

message: I'm sorry, but this article is WAY TOO LONG, because it has WAY TOO MUCH DETAIL!  For example, we should list the name of "Mrs. Puff's Boating School" and a BRIEF description of what it is.  Including the questions and answers of the driving test is totally excessive.  Also, there are many things included in the lists that I, a SpongeBob fan, have NEVER heard of.  Granted, I've missed several of the more recent episodes and I don't play any of the video games, but things still need to be cited.  And all the unnecessary fluff has GOT TO GO!  I think that a complete re-write is in order.  --76.1.32.129 19:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I feel that some of the sections should be separated, e.g. a "Places in Bikini Bottom" article.  That way all the information stays in Wiki but doesn't clutter up the main Bikini Bottom article.  --AndreniW 21:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There's a lot of work that needs to be done here, I agree.Knuckles sonic8 23:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh really? I'm removing the cleanup-rewrite sign as this article looks fine to me. What? In an article called Bikini Bottom YOU don't want to include The Fry Cook Games, The Great Snail Race, Hobbies, Bubble blowing, surrounding cities etc. It doesn't matter if you never heard of them. They exsit. That's the matter. If you can tell me what you want deleted and what you want kept do so, but for now the article look's fine. What, article's aren't supposed to have detail. And please stop screaming, 76.1.32.129, it could be considered vandalism to some people. Sections should be seperated? So we should start another article called "Places in Binki Bottom" I don't think so. Why can't that info be on Bikini Bottom? Treebark (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the one that put it there (under an IP address rather than my username), and I sadly do think that this article needs a tremendous amount of work.  I never said *which* things I hadn't heard of--for your information I *have* heard of Fry Cook Games, Greak Snail Race, and bubble blowing, and I'm perfectly fine with them staying there.  But there are some things that I haven't--the ones that stick out in my mind are "Quittersville," "Failuretown," and "Loserburg."  Haven't heard of them.  If they do exist in SB's universe, that's fine, but nothing should be in the article unless it can be cited.  And I'm sorry, but I still think the article contains way too much extraneous detail--which is probably the main reason why it's currently 57 kb long.  When an article starts getting over the preferable size, it's probably time to start trimming it down or dividing it into sections.  And I was not "screaming"--I was merely trying to emphasize what I was saying.  I apologize if I came off as a screamer; I'll instead use asterisks for emphasis in the future.  I'm going to restore the "cleanup-rewrite" tag" and I'll very soon start making the changes that need to be made.  --CrazyLegsKC 19:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to watch this page, but have you listens to Chimps Ahoy? It clearly says the places for losers are failuretown, and loserburg. Please create an article Places in Binki Bottom when you remove some of the towns. Any edits I don't like maybe reverted. Instead use  which will come out as bold. Italics will come out using the same thing but replacing the b with an i. Treebark (talk) 02:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, using ' 's will make it bold, and  's will make it italic.  And why would I remove towns and put them in there?  Bikini Bottom is a town, so it would be a factual error to place other towns there.  Plus, it's Places in Bikini Bottom, not Binki Bottom.  --AndreniW 03:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WAY TOO LONG!!!!! 

message: Here are the changes I think should be made.
*The list of towns should be given its own page, under the title Towns in SpongeBob SquarePants or List of towns in SpongeBob SquarePants, or something similar.  Since this article is about Bikini Bottom, it shouldn't include information about other towns.  We can provide a link to the new page, with a brief description, such as "Various other towns are located near Bikini Bottom, and are sometimes included in the stories."
*Mrs. Puff's Boating School should be given its own page.  There's enough information on it here, as well as some info from the show that hasn't been mentioned, for it to merit its own article, IMO.  Plus, as said above, it's kind of excessive to give this much detail about it in an article about Bikini Bottom.
*The "Unofficial History" section should be trashed completely.  It seems very sketchy, and, by its own admittance, is "Unofficial"--only things that are official canon should be included.
*Each of the entries in the "Homes" section should be moved to the pages of their respective characters.  I think the descriptions are too detailed to be included on this page, or the "Places in Bikini Bottom" page.  We can include a list of the homes (ie, "SpongeBob's pineapple home," "Sandy's treedome," "Squidward's Easter Island Head"), with links to their descriptions on the character pages.
Let me know what you think of these changes. --CrazyLegsKC 18:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I agree with having Mrs. Puff's Boating School onits own page. -AMK152 02:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed changes 

message: *This article is now at its recommended size. Bikini Bottom is now broken into 3 articles.  We still need to make the article look better, hopefully make it a good or featured article.  I will continue to improve it after i post this. -AMK152 18:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I changed the history section from a list form, to a paragraph form. If anyone has anyway to improve it, please do so.  It still needs some work. -AMK152 17:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Improving Article

message: *The lead section needs to be much longer. Could someone help me expand it, or have any suggestions on what to put in there? -AMK152 03:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead Section

message: *There needs to be footnotes in this article. Please help me with this, we dont need "as seen in (whatever episode or videogame) some many times. -AMK152 23:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created and expanded the references section, but it still needs work. Any help would be great. -AMK152 20:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnotes

message: Here is a list of the Peer review suggestions:
Suggestion
The article needs a fair bit of improvement if it is to become a featured article. The lead could be expanded and an opening picture of the fictional city would help. The article has too many lists and should try to focus on eliminating the lists and writing good prose. With any fictional entity, the focus should not be on just describing fictional details but instead describing the relevance and relation of these details to the real world. Fictional entities are often a reflection of the cultural setting from which they emerged, you already noted this with statements like "which are similar to that of United States laws" now try to expand on that point. Comprehensively describing all the details of a fictional entity is not necessary and may not even be beneficial in a well-written article. Cedars 01:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review Suggestions

message: Do not add images without a source unless you include a source. I have been reverting a lot of times on this page; because all images do not have a source. They have been tagged with the template no source. Carmelapple 03:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They have a source, please look it over again. -AMK152 03:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images