Talk:Teemu Selänne

message: According to a reliable source;  Harry watson scored 37 goals in 5 games in the 1924 olympics, also Harry Watson had 9 assists (apparently maybe a better source is needed)  are we not premature as the news in declaring that Selanne is the all time points leader in the olympics? I think he still has 9 points to go. Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:32, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: IIHF says that Watson, along with Vlastimil Bubnik and Valeri Kharlamov all had 36 points. —Krm500 (Communicate!) 12:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell the 36 points originates  from the NHL compiling a list of olympic records . Watson is credited as having 36 goals by the NHL and IIHF, 37 goals by HHOF. This doesnt matter though so much aside from being slightly premature. Selanne will no doubt pass 37 points shortly with his 38th. However in every source available on the record being beaten by Selanne only Watson's total goals are used to compare as being his total points. His assists are not being considered. Even in comparsion of total points the NHL in the above list compared Selanne to modern players and not to Watson. I think even if we say Selanne broke the record, we should point out that only Watson's total goals are considered in this comparison. Otherwise I believe we have a biased comparsion. Alternatively like the NHL (use to compare prior to this hype building up) I think we need to specifically say Selanne's points record is a modern olympic record. Would you agree with either option? Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Assists were not recorded internationally back then. I can understand your argument about bias, but at the same time you don't see games end 33-0 anymore. Basically it comes down to avoiding original research, which we can do by simply reciting what the sources say. —Krm500 (Communicate!) 14:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As Krm mentions assists were not recorded back then. And adding the word modern is Original Research. We are obligated to just recite what the sources say. -DJSasso (talk) 15:09, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding the word 'modern' as the NHL has done in their list;  is not original resarch. I can though understand the point of view presented that it can sound as such considering other sources have compared Watson to Selanne and that we can be borderline doing SYNTH (under OR) at that point. Though I do think that its semi biased coverage the way it is written (perhaps more so in the sources being written recently by the press), I do see your points of view as well. Thanks for the input. Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just for information, the reliable site eliteprospects  also recorded the 46 points Harry Watson may have scored.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.61.130.27 (talk) 10:13, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "May have scored" is the key issue there.  Regardless of the reliability of Elite Hockey Prospects, the fact remains that the IIHF did not track assists at those games.  Watson officially has 36 points in Olympic competition per the IIHF itself. Resolute 23:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Olympic Points record premature????

message: The place of birth in the info box has been changed to Espoo numerous time. The NHL lists his place of birth as Helsinki , as does European Hockey.Net, the Internet Hockey Database and The Hockey News. According to the Hockey Hall of Fame he was born in Helsinki, and did not move to Espoo until after he had began playing hockey as a child in Rauma, and makes it sound like he was around 10 at the time. If there is a reference that states other wise please add it but all information backs up the statement that he was born in Helsinki.--Mo Rock...Monstrous  (leech44) 15:57, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of Birth 

message: You know that magazine published that stepfather claim is one of the infamous yellow press -magazines in Finland? That claim should be removed. Iivarius (talk) 14:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The link appears to have gone dead, so we will probably have to find another anyway, but could you perhaps help me with some clarification?  Which "stepfather clam" are you referring to? I sort of presume that you mean Ilmari is actually his biological father? If you have a better source as well (in English or Finnish), that would be most helpful! Thanks, Resolute 14:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teemu's father 

message: Height, weight etc are obviously fake. Mikaaneikelpaa (talk) 10:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selännes personal information has been tampered with.