Talk:Haplogroup C-M130

message: The article would need a much better structure, i.e. dividing it into separate paragraphs, each dealing with each subclade in detail. Centrum99 (talk) 06:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Unlike some other human Y-DNA clades of a similar age depth, all clades of Haplogroup CF are non-African; that is, they do not occur exclusively in Africa, unlike A and B." How does 'not occurring exclusively in Africa' make CF 'non-African'? I think that sentence needs clearing up. MrSativa (talk) 15:16, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: @MrSativa Fixed. --YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 05:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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message: According to ISOGG's Y-DNA haplogroup tree (2007), haplogroup C2 is defined by M38 and it has two parallel subclades, C2a-P33 and C2b-M208. However, according to Cox et al., "A Polynesian Motif on the Y Chromosome: Population Structure in Remote Oceania" (Human Biology, vol. 79, 2007), haplogroup C2-M38 has only one identified immediate subclade, haplogroup C2a-M208, and C2a-M208 in turn has two immediate subclades, haplogroup C2a1-P33 and haplogroup C2a2-P54. The data of Cox et al. show haplogroup C2-M38*(xC2a-M208) as being the only form of haplogroup C2 found in central and eastern Indonesia, from Sulawesi, Flores, and Sumba eastwards through the Maluku Islands. Haplogroup C2-M38*(xC2a-M208) is present in approx. 30% of the total of all samples from central and eastern Indonesia in Cox et al. (2007), with the highest frequency of haplogroup C2-M38* being found among the population of the central Indonesian island of Sumba.
In New Guinea, in addition to very small amounts of haplogroup C2-M38*(xC2a-M208), Cox et al. have also found small amounts of haplogroup C2a-M208*(xC2a1-P33). Haplogroup C2a-M208* is limited to low frequency (2/21 or approx. 10%) among their sample of people from Coastal New Guinea.
C2a1-P33, on the other hand, is extremely common among (and completely limited to) Polynesian populations. Cox et al. found haplogroup C2a1-P33 Y-chromosomes among their samples of Polynesians from Rapanui (Easter Island), Tahiti, Samoa, and Tonga, but this haplogroup was completely absent from their samples of populations from Melanesia (including Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands), Micronesia, and Indonesia. Basically, this means that the majority of Polynesian males are descended directly from some man who was related to the direct patrilineal ancestor of the majority of Sumbanese as well as a significant proportion of men in Flores, Sulawesi, and the Malukus. This man later moved eastward to somewhere around the north coast of New Guinea, where he left a few branches of his descendants at low frequency among some coastal New Guinean populations. Most of his descendants, however, moved further eastward, past New Guinea and Melanesia, and out into the Polynesian islands of Remote Oceania.
Should we change the "Subclades" section on the haplogroup C (Y-DNA) wiki page to reflect the data of Cox et al., or should we continue to follow ISOGG's Y-DNA haplogroup tree? Ebizur (talk) 21:27, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Haplogroup C2 and its subclades

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Reference named "Cadenas2008":
From Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups: Alicia M Cadenas, Lev A Zhivotovsky, Luca L Cavalli-Sforza et al., "Y-chromosome diversity characterizes the Gulf of Oman," European Journal of Human Genetics (2008) 16, 374–386.
From Haplogroup Q (Y-DNA): 
From Haplogroup G (Y-DNA): 
From Haplogroup B (Y-DNA): Alicia M Cadenas, Lev A Zhivotovsky, Luca L Cavalli-Sforza et al., "Y-chromosome diversity characterizes the Gulf of Oman," European Journal of Human Genetics (2008) 16, 374–386
From Haplogroup P (Y-DNA): Alicia M Cadenas et al., "Y-chromosome diversity characterizes the Gulf of Oman," European Journal of Human Genetics (2008) 16, 374–386.
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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Haplogroup C (Y-DNA)]] 

message: Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C reveals the prehistoric migration routes of African exodus and early settlement in East Asia
Hua Zhong1,2,5, Hong Shi1, Xue-Bin Qi1, Chun-Jie Xiao3, Li Jin4, Runlin Z Ma2 and Bing Su1
http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v55/n7/abs/jhg201040a.html
Rajmaan (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article on ancient migrations relating to haplogroup C 

message: "Asia is also the area in which Haplogroup D-M174 is concentrated. However, D-M174 is more closely related to haplogroup E than to C-M130 and the geographical distributions of Haplogroups C-M130 and D-M174 are entirely and utterly different"
:Gee, could it be possible that people with Haplogroup C displaced people with haplogroup D in Asia, and drove them to flee to the remotest corners they could find - the Andamanese Islands, the Himalayan mountains, the northern island of Japan called Hokkaido (where the Ainu live)? I don't see how a present day distribution is proof of ancient distribution, other than indirectly. MrSativa (talk) 03:57, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Reference named "Zhong2010":
From Haplogroup C-M48: Hua Zhong, Hong Shi, Xue-Bin Qi, Chun-Jie Xiao, Li Jin, Runlin Z Ma, and Bing Su, "Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C reveals the prehistoric migration routes of African exodus and early settlement in East Asia." Journal of Human Genetics (2010) 55, 428–435; doi:10.1038/jhg.2010.40; published online 7 May 2010.
From Haplogroup Q-M25: 
From Haplogroup Q-M120: 
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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Haplogroup C-M130]] 

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Reference named "DiCristofaro2013":
From Haplogroup R1b: Di Cristofaro J, Pennarun E, Mazières S, Myres NM, Lin AA, et al. (2013) "Afghan Hindu Kush: Where Eurasian Sub-Continent Gene Flows Converge." PLoS ONE 8(10): e76748. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
From Haplogroup D-M174: 
From Haplogroup C-M48: Di Cristofaro J, Pennarun E, Mazières S, Myres NM, Lin AA, et al. (2013) "Afghan Hindu Kush: Where Eurasian Sub-Continent Gene Flows Converge." PLoS ONE 8(10): e76748. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
From Haplogroup O-M175: Di Cristofaro J, Pennarun E, Mazieres S, Myres NM, Lin AA, et al. (2013) "Afghan Hindu Kush: Where Eurasian Sub-Continent Gene Flows Converge." PLoS ONE 8(10): e76748. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
From Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup: Di Cristofaro J, Pennarun E, Mazières S, Myres NM, Lin AA, et al. (2013), "Afghan Hindu Kush: Where Eurasian Sub-Continent Gene Flows Converge." PLoS ONE 8(10): e76748. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
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