Talk:Wonder Man

message: Thank you, Wonder Man!--Theloniouszen 07:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this from a source other than Stan Lee. I just find it odd that DC would sue Marvel over a character who debuted and died in the same issue and can't find anything about it other than that quote. Stan can be a bit of a showman and I wonder about the validity of what he said. He makes it sound like DC made him kill off Wonder Man but he was already dead. 
Demolicious (talk) 09:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wonder Woman/Wonder Man Lawsuit 

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Asgardian 06:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strength 

message: From the article,
"and first appeared in Avengers Vol. 1, #9 "
Later it states,
"records Wonder Man's brain patterns in the hope that one day he can be revived. [1]"
"1. ^ Avengers Vol. 1, #3"
He couldn't have been recorded before his first appearance. Unfortunately I have no idea what issue he first appeared or which episode he was recorded.
Rauglothgor 00:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First appearance 

message: I've place the full promotional art back as the one recently uploaded to replace it is the same image and adds nothing to the article. Swapping out for the more recently uploaded image is a waste of time and effort, so can we just leave this as is?
Thanks for listening.... — J Greb 17:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image. 

message: This section is in big-time need of a cleanup.  For one thing, big chunks of information are repeated and restated (as if someone had written them, then someone else added their take on the events without getting rid of the original text), and the grammar is atrocious in parts. 204.153.84.10 20:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Avenging Days" section

message: (Removed unsourced claims and "tell the story" component.) 
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Tell the story? What? 
I can understand the first part, though I don't agree with it. The best thing to do would be to ask for the relevant issue numbers, not go deleting things.
Lots42 22:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Is Wonder Man  still considered human?  I thought when dealing w/ Mephisto, it was reveal that Wonder Man is not the original Simon Williams, but rather an ionic duplicate. 66.109.248.114
In the 2000 mini series Avengers Two, that was retconned as Mephisto messing up with Simon's head. The Beast, Wonder Man parents and most of the characters that thru the story reveal this to Wonder Man are Mephisto's constructs. The powers he exhibits during that story "Hidden Depth" are also revealed as Mephisto's illusions.
SimonWM 01:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Human??

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kirby1 wonderman.jpg

message: How come his name is remotely to a female DC character? And how come one Captain Marvel is also on a Marvel Universe? Looks Like Stan and Jack don't know their rivals' superhero names.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.27 (talk) 03:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wonder Man]]

message: I'm wondering how this character's recent statements that he's "as strong as that Sentry guy" can be reconciled. He was quite soundly beaten during World War Hulk while the Sentry was at least a match for the Hulk one on one. As Simon doesn't seem to know the Sentry very well, can we put it down to that ? He is simply unfamiliar with just how powerful the Sentry is ? Hermiod (talk) 19:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To continue the dicussion from my Talk Page, the original claim is valid as it is backed by Zemo - who gave WM his powers - and then WM himself, with a humorous example of how he's not quite Thor in Avengers #176. User:Pairadox just put the most recent claim back, but it is invalid because:
- being stronger than Ms. Marvel is no big deal as he was always far stronger than her! 
- yes, he's almost as strong as the top tier, but not quite. Not Thor or the Hulk. Sentry? Aside from the fact that the character shouldn't even exist (another story), it is hearsay, and superfluous as there's already a mention against the top tier Marvel character.
- it creates a second power claim and now smacks of a fan-oriented Offical Handbook of the Marvel Universe. The Powers and Abilities section is not a justification for a character's powers or an assertation that they can match X, Y or Z but should just be a simple statement of what is possible. User:DavidA also falls into this trap with his reworkings of the P & A. I've noticed the less experienced editors always seem to get carried away here. Revert back as you like.
Asgardian (talk) 18:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Please be civil. In other words, don't call other editors "less-experienced" or say that they are getting "carried away". Your argument is essentially correct, but it is stronger when you refrain from name-calling. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 22:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Agreed. It is not a personal observation, folks. I injected POV and hearsay when I first started.
Asgardian (talk) 07:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that any statements made by Zemo are no longer relevant because of the change in the nature of his powers, the ever changing nature of Ms. Marvel's and the vastly inconsistent way The Sentry is written. One minute he's struggling against Ultron or the Collective, the next he's going toe to toe with the Hulk when he's the strongest and most dangerous that he's ever been. Hermiod (talk) 19:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to comics. Pairadox (talk) 21:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Level 

message: In World War Hulk, Wonder Man appears to be easily defeated by Korg the Kronan.
Wonder man had always been portrayed as a powerhouse yet Korge takes him out in a couple of panels. Did this fight go on longer than the comic portrayed or is Korg a mega powerhouse? or was Wonder Man having an off day? If Korg is that tough why did a whole spacehip full of them run away rom Thor when they were trying to conquer the Earth? 
213.122.64.74 (talk) 20:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wonder Man's ass kicked by Korg? 

message: Why was the Secret Invasion section removed?  It is the most drastic revision of that edit and yet it isn't covered by the edit summary. (Emperor (talk) 23:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I didn't remove it but it is veeery poorly written. I own all the SI issues and it still makes little sense. Lots42 (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

text: That's perhaps a tad harsh, but yes, it needs a lot of work. That aside, the simple fact that Wonder Man appears in the storyline isn't enough. Dozens of characters appear in crossovers all the time. If Wonder Man performed some feat - such as being the one to defeat the Skrull invasion - then that would be noteworthy. Because these are meant to be encyclopedia standard articles, we only go with what is truly significant and then only the necessary elaboration as there is a great deal of information to be managed. 
Asgardian (talk) 09:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is an argument for not including it on the Secret Invasion article - that is, after all, his fictional character biography and he is depicted having a role in the storyline. I agree with Lots42 that it needed editing and looks like it could be trimmed down but it seems worthy of inclusion. (Emperor (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret Invasion 

message: Really, what's this mean? I don't understand anything in this edit. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using a redirect? 

message: These changes don't quite make sense. The lead was fine as it was in accordance with WP:CMC/X, and I don't agree with the undiscussed removal of the categories. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the WP:CMC/X states either way is acceptable got a lead. That said, keep it the way it is. In a sense it isn't going to matter as the rest of the article has to be rewritten per the correct direction for articles. AS for links, we need to pair these down to just the core connections, not dubious ones that may have suited for a time. In fact, I'm going to suggest many of these links are culled as they are unnecessary and confuse the issue.  Asgardian (talk) 13:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  But you still haven't explained why your lead is any better than the one I put up. Yours doesn't even mention that he is a superhero (there's no real reason to avoid that). Inclusively, WP:OCAT doesn't seem to be a problem here. Unless of course, there are categories placed here that are unsupported by the article's context. If so, which ones? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recents edits 

message: a character is always fictional so can you remove the "fictional" word ???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.170.125 (talk) 09:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:WAF. We're supposed to make fiction clear to viewers, it is actually better off as it is. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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