Talk:Ectopic pregnancy

message: I tried to find an academic reference for the Montreal 2003 case, but this was unsuccesful link. JFW | T@lk 12:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Heading

message: I don't know if there is some kind of template or standard for medical articles, but I think it would be helpful if there was a heading for "Viability of Pregnancy".  Whether or not one could actually deliver an "ectopically" implanted fetus was the first question I had when arriving at this article, especially with the arresting graphic at the top of the page (). kostmo 08:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean as in a parasitic twin, or as in not developed much? Can it be called a fetus if it's a blood clot? Junulo asked this question at 20:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Viability of Pregnancies" heading?

message: I have removed this recent unsourced addition for now.  It's just an anecdote and needs a citation.  The style is not encyclopedic and it would need cleanup if added.
: One such case was in Iowa, at the University of Iowa Hospitals, back in the 50s. To deliver an extra-uterine child via laprarotomy is something more than a one-in-a-million event. To hear a good emergency room nurse relate the story is magical: the whole of University of Iowa baby-deliverers were there in the room, observing and assisting at a majical event.
--Tony Sidaway 12:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: University of Iowa

message: The Catholic view may belong in a larger section on the ethics of surgery in such cases.  I have removed the recently added section because it is anecdotal and the writer does not seem to have even seen a good source ("apparently"). --Tony Sidaway 12:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a way to save both the mother and child?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junulo (talk • contribs) 20:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Catholic view

message: :"A classical ectopic pregnancy never develops into a live birth."
What does the word "classical" in this context denote. It severely undervalues the usefulness of the word "never" later in the sentence. Without any explanation of what makes an ectopic pregnancy classical, there is no logically sound way to assess what the sentence means. Am commenting it out, until something more sensible can replace it. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. 09:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  statement with void content 

message: I don't get it; why can't they just relocate the fetus to the uterus and re-implant it?  I admit I'm not a doctor or anything, it just seems like in today's world, where we can implant other nerves into arms to create new artificial limbs it's weird we can't even relocate a fetus.--Anoma lee 03:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  confused 

message: "In this author's experience this is invariably bowel or mesentery, but other sites, such as the renal (kidney), liver or hepatic (liver) artery or even aorta have been described. "
Wiki not place for origional research.. maybe it was copied from somewhere?
StarDolph 00:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Author? 

message: :The causes of ectopic pregnancy are unknown. After fertilization of the oocyte in the peritoneal cavity, the egg takes about nine days to migrate down the tube to the uterine cavity at which time it implants. Wherever the embryo finds itself at that time, it will begin to implant.
Fertilization does not necessarily occur prior to the egg entering the oviduct; it can occur within the oviduct as well.  As such, there are a number of problems with the statements made above:
# fertilization does not necessary occur within the peritoneal cavity.
# Is it the "taking of nine" days that stimulates the egg to implant or does it take nine days for the egg to travel the length of the oviduct?  The comment that follows, wherever the embryo finds itself at that time, it will begin to implant suggests that the egg will implant 9 days post-fertilization.  At which time it implants, however, is suggestive that entrance into the uterus is a stimulation for implantation, which would result in no ectopic implantations.
This paragraph should be edited to reflect physiologic accuracy and grammatical unambiguity. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 20:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Causes 

message: The article says advanced maternal age is a risk factor.  I have never heard this before and there is no citation for it.  Can anyone provide a citation? If not, I will remove it. Nathanaver (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: - I can't even see an abstract, so no idea what it contains.  Still, the title kinda says everything, doesn't it?  Though I'd be interested to know what their population and range of ages were.  Also  WLU (talk) 20:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I will have a look at these later today.  Just glancing at them, and a couple others I found, the discussion sections suggest that the authors believe that the increased risk is likely due to the cumulative effects of other things, like PID, not maternal age itself. Nathanaver (talk) 12:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advanced Maternal Age? 

message: I fail to see how the de Graaf illustration is an appropriate picture to include in this article.  It is not even close to being anatomically accurate.  I think that a more realistic representation would be a positive addition. 68.81.116.33 (talk) 07:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: realistic isn't always the same as informative. IMO it shows clearly to a lay person what is taking place in a way that a more literal depiction wouldn't. --86.138.30.7 (talk) 04:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Illustration

message: Is the following sentence (from the article) a mistake?
An empty uterus with levels lower than 1500 IU/ml may be evidence of an ectopic pregnancy, but may also be consistent with an intrauterine pregnancy which is simply too small to be seen on ultrasound.
 164.111.16.221 (talk) 13:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope this is true just poorly worded.--Doc James (talk) 03:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erratum? 

message: Are there known working preventive measures? If so, a section on prevention would benefit the article. And if not, that fact should be clearly stated as well. -- 212.63.43.180 (talk) 15:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No preventative measures other then the avoidance of the risk factures now discussed under cause.--Doc James (talk) 03:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prevention? 

message: The role of chlamydia should be discussed (http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/316/7147/0/b.), as with the current increasing ectopic pregnancy rate with the increasing chlamydia incidence (still need citation).     IUDs have also been linked to increased ectopic pregnancy (still need citation).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.36.53.20 (talk) 21:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: added info about risks  --Doc James (talk) 03:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Risk factors

message: The chance of future pregnancy depends on the status of the adnexa left behind. The chance of recurrent ectopic pregnancy is about 10% and depends on whether the affected tube was repaired (salpingostomy) or removed (salpingectomy). Successful pregnancy rates vary widely between different centuries,[clarification needed] and appear to be operator dependent.[clarification needed] Pregnancy rates with successful methotrexate treatment compare favorably with the highest reported pregnancy rates. Often, patients may have to resort to in vitro fertilisation to achieve a successful pregnancy.[clarification needed] The use of in vitro fertilisation does not preclude further ectopic pregnancies, but the likelihood is reduced.
What do centuries have to do with this? And what is the case under discussion?
What is meant by "operator dependent"? Who was the operating surgeon? If so, then it would be interestng to know why.
What is "often"? In wich case? Since "the chance of recurrent ectopic pregnancy is about 10%", an ectopic pregnancy seems no reason to resort to in vitro fertilisation, and certainly not to call it a must. If it means after removal of a tube, then that should be specified. Debresser (talk) 17:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't author those statements but have clarified the ones I could and have deleted others. --David Iberri (talk) 21:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Much appreciated. Debresser (talk) 21:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification needed 

message: It would be very helpful to have a brief description of what has been removed here File:Ruptured_ectopic_pregancy.JPG (other than the fetus) please.
Thanks very much.--TyrS (talk) 09:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2nd image 

message: The occurrence of these types of pregnancies is given as 1%, but what percentage of that figure actually threatens the life of the mother? 67.233.244.199 (talk) 04:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All of them if not appropriately treated. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What percentage of ectopic pregnancies actually threaten the life of the mother? 

message: Can we use this video? It provides a lot of missing info about the Jane Ingram case and also about another case unique in medical history not mentioned in the article. --Espoo (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's unavailable now, so I don't think so. Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  video 

message: I moved removed the image at right from the article, because it appears to show a fetus inside the ovary, which is nonexistent to extremely rare. Also, there are many other inaccuracies, such as the fallopian tubes appearing to end at the roof of the fundus, and the proper left fallopian tubes has strange appendices attached to it. Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate image 

message: Previously, the "medical" section of the article stated that methotrexate was a viable treatment option "at least since 1993".  I have found a reference which states that methotrexate treatment was developed "during the 1980s".  Accordingly, I have adjusted the article, replacing the old reference with my new one.  Goblinshark17 (talk) 06:20, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: History of methotrexate treatment of ectopic pregnancies

message: I note that the page now says (under Causes) there is no link between endometriosis and EPs, despite older texts to the contrary (per citation 12). I think this is a bit oversimplified. 
While endometriosis may not increase the risk for all women over control groups, per se, if endometriosis causes partial obstruction of a fallopian tube, either directly or by kinking due to adhesions around the tube, then this will increase the risk, as would any kind of partial obstruction (such as stated in the same section). I believe this should be clarified, because it's blatantly false to say that endometriosis can never result in damage leading to an EP, but at the same time, endometriosis isn't going to increase your risk if your tubes are patent.
I feel that this is worth explaining. Dis/Agree?
82.15.170.150 (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We should be using reviews not primary sources.  Will update thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation of Endometriosis to ectopic pregnancy 

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message: "...a "pseudosac", which is a collection of within the endometrial cavity that may be seen in up to 20% of women." A collection of what? Equinox (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing word 

message: It's in the heading and reads as 
"The risk of death among those in the developed world is between 0.1 and 0.3 percent while in the developing world it is between one and three percent."
1. Why are the percentages not clear or parallel. Switches from using decimals to words to describe percentage. 
2. The source cited does not make a statement about "the developed" world. Inadequate citation.  DrOctoCat (talk) 08:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:DrOctoCat thanks. Agree and done. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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message: Goals:
*Edit and add new information for each section along with citation
*Improve organization of article if needed
*Add dosage of medications for the treatment of ectopic pregnancies that are used in the US
*Research and add more information about the correlation of chlamydia and ectopic pregnancy
*Research fertility after the treatment of an ectopic pregnancy and the recurrent rate
Sara.F.Shaikh (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean with that last bullet point. (added list formatting) Health policy (talk) 03:40, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  UCSF Foundations II 2019, Group 7A goals 

message: Goal 1: The group is off to a good start and has added information to 3 sections, but has not met their goal of editing every section. 
Goal 2: The group has not yet edited anything related to guidelines.
Goal 3: The group has met their goal of adding information related to the correlation between chlamydia and ectopic pregnancy.
Goal 4: The group added statistics related to fertility after the use of methotrexate and, salpingectomy and salpingostomy. 
"Studies have shown" is mentioned, but there are no names of specific studies mentioned.
Overall, the group has added pertinent information to the article and has improved it. They have not yet met all their goals.
No evidence of plagiarism or copyright violation was found.
Emilyplasencia (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emily's Review to UCSF Foundations II 2019, Group 7A 

message: Part 1: The article was not substantially improved, however, it is already heavily edited. Group 7a's goals were mostly met as new information was added to multiple sections. Specially, correlation between chlamydia and ectopic pregnancy was stated and rates of recurrent ectopic pregnancy were stated. Also, the role of methotrexate was elaborated upon. However, this information might better belong under the treatment section as opposed to the prognosis section. 
Part 2: The information added to the article maintained its neutral point of view.
Maludino (talk) 21:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matt's Review 

message: Goal 1. Some, but not all, sections were edited with inclusion of significant information.
Goal 2. No guidelines were revised nor updated yet.
Goal 3. Information was added to elaborate on the relationship between chlamydia and ectopic pregnancy. 
Goal 4. Additional information on treatment and recurrent rate was provided.
More details on methotrexate would be helpful to readers' overall understanding of this treatment option.
Added points were supported by information included in cited secondary sources.
Cpktruong (talk) 21:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colette's Review of UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7a Goals 

message: •Do the group’s edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
It has not been substantially improved, but additional content did provide more points to consider to the article. These points provided neutral perspectives (with statistics and findings from research) along with appropriate references to look up into. 
For the sentences added onto the Surgical header, I would recommend reformatting the second sentence that was incorporated. "Respectively" was the last word utilized in both sentences, so there was repetition of sentence formatting. 
•Are the edits formatted consistent with Wikipedia’s manual of style? If not, specify…
Yes, the edits were consistent with Wikipedia's manual of style. References were appropriately cited and the sentences were consistent.
• Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement?
The group's goals were:
Edit and add new information for each section along with citation---->not every section was edited and added, but it may be because it was already heavily worked on;
Revise and update any guidelines that are mentioned-->no updates as of right now;
Research and add more information about the correlation of chlamydia and ectopic pregnancy-->Yes, this was done (before contents were introduced);
Research fertility after the treatment of an ectopic pregnancy and the recurrent rate-->Yes, this was done (under future fertility)
Jacklyn.Ang (talk) 21:56, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jacklyn Ang's Review for Foundations II 7a, group edits 

message: It has become a “known fact” in political circles that we just aren’t trying to “save these babies.”  As an ectopic survivor who is worried that others will die, please spell this out plainly.  I see it answered above, but it needs to be that plain on the page… with citations.  I don’t have the citations. 2600:1700:F90:6950:3050:6D2C:AA4:29BE (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add something explicitly explaining the science of why the pregnancy cannot be “relocated” 

message: ~1/3 of the mentions of fallopian have a capital letter in sentences. Maybe I'm missing some grammar/Wikipedia rule but I don't think they should have capital letter. Wadvann (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fallopian has needless capital letter