Talk:Piazza San Marco

message: ::Is Piazetta instead of the standard Italian Piazzetta a specifically Venetian spelling that is always used to described this piazzetta? Ruskin invariably called it the "Piazzetta" and he was speaking English and knew Venice. ...I've moved the Procuratie to Procuratie and fixed redirects from Procuratie Vecchie and Procuratie Nuove. It's the only sensible way, similar to Duomo. Wetman 17:02, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine with me, it seems a sensible move.  I've put the extra "z" in Piazzetta. Warofdreams 18:12, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Piazetta

message: Can somebody please explain the meaning of the following? "It is the only great urban space in a European city where the sound is of human voices talking." Is the intention to highlight the lack of vehicular traffic noise? --Mintie 01:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sound of human voices?

message: Formatting that encases the framed table of contents in text, in just the way a framed map or image is enclosed within the text, is now available:  in the HTML does the job. 
Blank space opposite the ToC, besides being unsightly and distracting, suggests that there is a major break in the continuity of the text, which may not be the case. Blanks in page layout are voids and they have meanings to the experienced reader. The space betweeen paragraphs marks a brief pause between separate blocks of thought.  A deeper space, in a well-printed text, signifies a more complete shift in thought: note the spaces that separate sub-headings in Wikipedia articles. 
A handful of thoughtless and aggressive Wikipedians revert the "TOCleft" format at will. A particularly aggressive de-formatter is User:Ed g2s
The reader may want to compare versions at the Page history. --Wetman 20:09, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Distracting blank spaces

message: * I continue to be surprised that this page comes up as "St Mark's Square". Of all the anglicizations persisting in common use, this is among the more archaic in my reading. I'd like to reopen the discussion about moving the article to Piazza San Marco with reference to the developing guideline at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)#Borderline cases. --Dystopos 15:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd second that, without repeating my starchy remarks above. Imagine an article on Leghorn. --Wetman 20:59, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support that. the current name is ridiculous. I was halfway of renaming it when I saw the ancient discussion above. The Minister of War (Peace) 17:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rereading the above, which seems split between the English rendition, the Italian, and "I don't care" and with the recent show of support for a move, I'm putting this up on Wikipedia:Requested moves. This opens a new period for comment and all interested editors are encouraged to contribute. --Dystopos 21:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming convention revisited

message: St Mark's Square → Piazza San Marco – Rationale: The local name would be the "least surprising" per WP:NC. The bulk of previous discussion above tends toward support for a move. … Please discuss/vote at Talk:St Mark's Square — Dystopos 21:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
* Support (see nomination) --Dystopos 21:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments
* Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) --Dystopos 21:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: * The guideline above gives preference to Google Scholar and Google Books searches over Google web searches as quick comparisons of sources likely to carry authority. Here are my results: Google Scholar: "Piazza San Marco" → 593 results; "St Mark's Square" → 156 results. Google Books: "Piazza San Marco" → 3310 pages; "St Mark's Square" → 1259 pages. --Dystopos 01:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
* Support (see nomination) --Dystopos 21:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Add any additional comments
* Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) --Dystopos 21:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * The guideline above gives preference to Google Scholar and Google Books searches over Google web searches as quick comparisons of sources likely to carry authority. Here are my results: Google Scholar: "Piazza San Marco" → 593 results; "St Mark's Square" → 156 results. Google Books: "Piazza San Marco" → 3310 pages; "St Mark's Square" → 1259 pages. --Dystopos 01:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: If any of you involved in the 2006 renaming/moving discussion are still around, please see my question at Talk:Saint_Peter's_Square.--Margareta (talk) 19:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piazza San Pietro 

message: I am questioning this, because I have never thought of the Piazzetta as part of the Piazza and I would not think that the Venetians do.  The very name Piazzette, the little Piazza, proclaims its difference. (I know Venice fairly well. I have been there about 30 times and look on myself as a Veneziophile). If Wikipedia is to contain separate articles on the principal places in Venice, I think it would be better that they should each have a separate article.  An alternative would be to rename the article as Piazza San Marco and the Piazzetta, but that does not seem very satisfactory. There is plenty to say about each of them.  I do not want to alter it without giving others a chance to express their opinions.
Waysider1925 (talk) 06:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There does not seem to be any interest in this question. Further research has convinced me that they are separate, but on the other hand they are best described together. I have altered the article to describe them separately, while making it clear in the lead that the article deals with both. I have not altered the title. It seems very clumsy to name them both. Links to Piazzetta come here. I am doiing further work on this and shall be making considerable additions.
Waysider1925 (talk) 12:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the Piazzetta belong here? 

message: What about the little corsican turned great french emperor, who called St Mark's place "the most beautiful saloon on Earth"? There is no mention of that in the article! 82.131.210.163 (talk) 13:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bona parte 

message: I have reverted the last three alterations for the following reasons:
:Removal of spaces and headings under References: These were completely harmless and in my view desirable. Removing them does no good.
:The removal of the preamble to the History section is pointless. It explains the division of the section  and the next sentence is more meaningful if it is included. The removal of the dates seems inexplicable to me; I think them important and many readers will find them useful.
:The alteration in the headings is also inexplicable. They were put in for a purpose. The sections are 'Descriptions' as opposed to History. One is a description of the Piazza, the other of the Piazzetta, which is exactly what the headings said.
Waysider1925 (talk) 11:08, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting the last three alterations  28 October 2011 

message: I have done a great deal of work on this article, which seems to me to be fairly complete, but it is rated as C class, implying that it is still missing important content or contains a lot of irrelevant material. I am not sure who takes responsibility for these assessments, but I would welcome more information as to what they think is missing or needs to be deleted.
Waysider1925 (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  C class 

message: I have removed the statement: In all likelihood more homosexuals died between the "Columns of Justice" than anywhere else in Europe before Hitler. Homosexuals were burned alive between the columns until 1446, when the rite was changed so that victims were to be decapitated before their bodies were consigned to the fire.
For one thing, it seems to devolve instantly to an argument affirming Godwin's Law. I have not read the source, but I honestly doubt that it is an affirmation that bears the statistical certainty of someone who verified the exact number of homosexuals that were executed. How am I to know that more "homosexuals" were killed here versus Seville, Paris, Bruges, London, etc, much less to compare them to holocaust events. In addition, I can not conclude, although it is hinted that those individuals were executed for homosexuality. It is likely incorrect, they were often convicted of sodomy, While Death in Venice (pun intended) may have been assigned to those involved in sodomy, at some time in the past; Venetian and Italian responses to sodomy were complex and varied along the ages. There were many capital offences in Medieval Italy; why single out sodomy in this section? Also I do not recall from my readings that any individuals were burned in Venice or in the Piazzetta. I think this addition will need more substantiation.Rococo1700 (talk) 21:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Homosexual executions in the Piazzetta

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thread_title:  [[:File:Piazzetta San Marco Venice BLS.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

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