Talk:Isles International University

message: Do you think there's any need to keep putting university in quote marks? It could get a bit tedious if this article develops further. As the one in the title does not contain them, we could choose to take them all out. It's been made completely clear that it's unaccredited. MSGJ (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "University"

message: QAC fake?
Company registered in England and Wales, number 05355181. Registerd since 2005. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertytech (talk • contribs) 12:57, 22 September 2008
:I changed the wording to more accurately reflect the reference. Thanks, TallMagic (talk) 18:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that you were referring to the paranthetical comment in the external link? I hope that the change I made is an improvement? Thanks, TallMagic (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Quality Assurance Commission (fake accreditation company)

message: What about the students who were studying at various colleges who were offering Graduation and Post Graduation courses from Irish International University? 
They spent thousands of pounds and studied the course and also wrote the exams and were awarded Degree (both Home Students and Overseas Students-were also issued VISA on the basis of this University).
Is it not British Education Authorities responsible for a bogus University to trade and provide Education to both Home and Overseas Students?
 
My question to authorities is; what about the Degrees that is there with the students? Will they be honored by the British Authorities and Employers?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.248.200 (talk) 22:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: These are all excellent questions. There are some good general answers for your questions but there are not Wikipedia:Reliable sources that answer your questions specifically for IIU. That means that answers to your questions cannot be added to the article. I could discuss the detail with you further but the purpose of this page is to discuss improvements to the article. So this is not really the proper forum. I suggest that may want to reask your questions at a proper forum, which I suggest either http://www.degreediscussion.com or http://www.degreeinfo.com . There're are some very knowledgeable and helpful people that post there. Regards, TallMagic (talk) 23:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions regarding the utility of degrees

message: Well well, this (archived by WebCite [here) tells us that
:The Isles Internationale Université (European Union) receives its name from two sources, the original company register filed in Ireland, and the further Charter from Ministry of Education in the UK to act as a University, deriving into a British Isles born organization, now established in the heart of the EU, elsewhere of the British Isles 
(my emphasis)
This is most interesting, in that the UK hasn't had a "Ministry of Education" since 1964. Its current successor in the tertiary education biz is, I believe, the Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills (half of the previous Department for Education and Skills). But I hadn't previously been aware that the DIUS (or DES) awarded corporations in Belgium charters to act as universities.
Perhaps Wikipedia's readers would like to have this remarkable claim explained.
Incidentally, here is the Vice Chancellor. And for anyone enrolled in xing.com (not me, sorry), here he is too.
- Hoary (talk) 10:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You should look again, most of the references are outdated. We are now at 2012! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profsandhu (talk • contribs) 
The IIU's website's claims at  have now been changed to the following:
"The Isles Internationale Université receives its name from two sources, the original company register filed in the Republic of Ireland and the further charter from the Minister of Education of the British Isle of Man to act as an international university, deriving into a British Isles born organization, now established in the heart of the European Union."
So instead of the "Ministry of Education in the UK" it is now only the "Minister of Education of the British Isle of Man" (sic).  Quite a big difference!  I would question what authority the Minister of Education on the Isle of Man has to authorise an "international university". Afterwriting (talk) 10:15, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Nice find, Afterwriting! And just in case something happens to the original here is a WebCite backup. ¶ I see that the Chancellor is Jean-Pierre Poelmans. Who might he be? The owner of JP Associates in Malaysia (where he's linked in), and apparently a chum of the Belgian ambassador to Malaysia and a man who appreciates "grey shrimps in croquette". ¶ So, yes, the Minister of Education of the British Isle of Man. Lovely! Except that the IoM doesn't seem to have such a person. It does have a Minister for Education and Children, Peter Karran. Would you care to ask the Department about this matter? (Their contact addresses are here.) -- Hoary (talk) 13:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I corrected the URL in my original message to the current webpage. For some reason I had included the WebCite link. Afterwriting (talk) 16:51, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Charter from the British Ministry of Education

message: In order to have a better understanding of IIU (for the benefit of our readers), perhaps it's helpful to identify the photographs used in its Flash animation. There are currently three of these.
The symmetrical brick building is the Woolwich Royal Arsenal Gatehouse. More specifically, it's this precise image (compare the clouds, etc, if you doubt this), about which Wikimedia Commons tells us: This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic license and You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). I don't notice any such attribution on the IIU website. 
The woman teaching kids in front of little posters of Mandela and Newton is rather different. We learn here that in 2010 the photo graced the website of "Isles International University | Commonwealth". We're told that the company name was then "Isles International Varsity (Commonwealth) Limited" (a variant that's new to me). It also slides across the top of this page (and perhaps others too) of "Richmond University", an establishment that offers a University Collage (really) and a School of Gradusate Studies (really). 
IIU's library photo also appears on the website of "Richmond University" (not to be confused with other establishments with similar names). And it appears on the "gallery" page of the website of the Hampstead School of English. The larger version of the graphic is here (note "Copyright 2008 Hampstead School of English" at its foot). The same image is here, linked from this page, again about a school in Hampstead. A version that's less cropped is this, linked from this page (direkt-sprachreisen.de), again about the Hampstead School of English. -- Hoary (talk) 01:30, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is absolutely WRONG, Isles International University website is at www.iiuedu.eu  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.92.35.6 (talk) 05:43, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely which parts of it are absolutely wrong, and precisely how are they wrong? -- Hoary (talk) 05:22, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Photographs of IIU

message: It seems that the shell game is continuing and and the Isles International University website URL www.iiuedu.ac is now the "The International Inter-University Institute". I suggest that the article be updated to reflect yet another name change. If you go to the new site and click through to "New and Events" and then "Video Gallery", you will see the award ceremony presentation of "Isles International University", though no reference to this former name is apparent on the new website.
Savlonn (talk) 21:39, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not right, Isles International University website is at www.iiuedu.eu  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.92.35.6 (talk) 05:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: iiuedu.ac is indeed the "The International Inter-University Institute"; iiuedu.eu is "OLLSCOIL ISLES IDIRNÁISIÚNTA | ISLES INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY / University for Doctoral Studies, Postdoctoral Research & Publication / Established Since 2000 in the European Union". The latter is quite extraordinary; this page tells us that the address of "The School of Doctoral Studies" is "Brussels Central Station". I wonder what the relationship might be between this photo on the last-mentioned page, and this photo (visible here), and what the descendants of Ralph Erskine think of this little tribute to the man. -- Hoary (talk) 05:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: www.iiuedu.ac now "The International Inter-University Institute

message: Almost all external links are invalid, i suggest we remove the invalid statements or the whole article induced from invalid references.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidsmith2012 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: "the whole article induced from invalid references"

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message: can someone unblock this? It has been block for too long
most of the information cannot be verified are outdated  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petershephard (talk • contribs) 01:43, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: The Irish Times has reported on this entity, calling it a 'bogus university'. This should be added to the article. Here's the report. 141.226.193.197 (talk) 12:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Bogus university report in the Irish Times

message: Earlier versions of this article, such as this one, are much more informative. Why has it been shortened? -- Hoary (talk) 09:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Possible_COI_editing_on_bogus_university. PamD 10:22, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Mysterious abridgement