Talk:Racine, Wisconsin

message: This section is ... well ... wrong. Wind Point Light is not in the city of Racine, it's in Wind Point. A few of the places listed aren't buildings (the zoo, Horlick Field). The second half of the list consists of companies; again, not buildings. This section should be cleaned up and re-named, or removed and have its relevant info dispersed elsewhere. Anyone else feel the same way? Daniel J Simanek (talk) 23:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Racine, Wisconsin#Notable buildings|Notable buildings]] 

message: A single statement comparing Racine to all other "communities" in Wisconsin is misleading.  It requires some context to be informative, and there is ambiguity in using the term community, rather than cities or villages, which are clearly defined.  Most of those communities represent rural or small town Wisconsin, with significantly different demographics from an urban area.  Providing the reader with the number of cities and villages and clarifying Racine's size relative to other cities in the state, all properly cited, gives the reader more information to draw their own conclusions, without advancing any agenda. ArtRoot (talk) 05:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is utter nonsense. A rate expresses perfectly the relationship between the number of crimes and the population. You don't need to beat the reader over the head with a digression about the number of municipalities in the state. It's already stated in the lede that Racine is the fifth largest community in the state. The paragraph now reads like a moronic middle school term paper. If you don't like Racine's crime rate, then leave it out of the article. It's tendentious editing any way you look at it. 70.235.85.36 (talk) 06:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The number of communities has nothing to do with the population.  If you have 99 communities with a population of 1, and 1 community with a population of 100,000, and the community with 100,000 has a higher crime rate, what does the ratio of number of communities tell you?  It's not that extreme, but in a state like Wisconsin it is tending more in that direction, with so many small villages and cities.  ArtRoot (talk) 06:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's always hard to know how to respond to non sequiturs. 70.235.87.246 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think ArtRoot is complining that "Racine has a higher crime rate than 96% of Wisconsin" is not very informative to the reader, as we have established that Racine has more people than most places in Wisconsin, and larger cities tend to have larger crime rateshttp://www.nber.org/papers/w5430. ArtRoot is asking for a more useful crime rate comparison (e.g. compare Racine to other similarly sized cities in Wisconsin) Limpice (talk) 14:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

text: I should also say that I don't particularly like the way it reads now either.  My original thought was just to delete the statement, as it is incomplete/misleading. But I wanted to respect the original contributor, and the fact itself is correct, it just mixes up a rate with a number that would imply population, when that isn't the case.  It is true that the crime rate in Racine is higher than most of the rest of Wisconsin, and it is also true that the rate has declined significantly and is the lowest it has been in decades. I was not able to find a good reference comparing Racine with other cities of similar size/demographics.  Do you have a suggestion on how to restructure this section so it reflects the facts without distortion?ArtRoot (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done, but you reverted. 70.235.87.246 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racine crime rates 

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