Category talk:Hebrew Bible verses

message: This category could end up with many useful, fun and controversial pages!
Probably we can start debating now about ordering and numbering the verses in light of different canons -- do we use the Jewish Study Bible (Oxford) or the (Christian) New Oxford Annotated Bible, etc ?! Or maybe a POV filter for readers who only want to see their religion's ordering and verse analysis!
How about proposing a default template or ideal/potential organization for each new verse or group of verses? For instance: 
Introduction) Open w/an overview statement and Biblical context (previous and succeeding verses), fun/catchy points/trivia
1) Text -- see examples Gen 1:1-2-- 
:(a) Hebrew text with 
:(b) Various translations -- I would recommend also Everett Fox's poetic/literal and an Aramaic Targum (either text itself or relevant points from targum) and Septuagint (text or relevant points). Maybe RSV. Probably drop some less important/novel choices.
:(c) Technical/linguistic notes on the tex:. Eg (a) grammatical, lexical info (b) concordance info; (c) accents, masora, variant readings/spellings, special marks, and other critical apparatus items; (d) misc tech/linguistic info....
2) Analysis, commentary and intepretation of the verse
:(a) Academic "neutral" analysis, eg, (a) higher/lower text critical analysis,(b) archaeological, (c) sociohistorical, (d) political, feminist, etc. etc.   I put this first partly due to NPOV and partly because it will be catchier for most readers. 
:(b) Inter-biblical interpretation (e.g., Fishbane's data in Biblical Interpretation in Ancient Israel), e.g. Psalms on Exodus verses
:(c) Classical religious exegesis, maybe arranged chronologically by author/source, or typologically by Jewish, Christian, Moslem, etc., e.g., Qumranic, Philo, NT, Mishnah, Church Fathers, Midrash, Quranic, Medieval, etc. etc.  [Maybe best to do it chronologically by source within ~5 major groupings: Ancient, Samaritan, Rabbinic, Karaitic, Pre-Reformation Christian, Moslem, Catholic, Protestant, [non-Abrahamic religions?!] etc.
:(I don't think this can be divided by genre, eg allegorical - legal - midrashic etc, without constant nitpicking)
:(d) Misc. literary, polemical and other exegesis
3) Usage of the verse, e.g.,
:(a) Interesting popular and historical uses -- maybe put this at front of article, esp if catchy / noteworthy /fun 
:(b) Liturgical, again arranged by source or by religion/denomination
:(c) Normative uses for religious law (e.g. halakha) and ethics (e.g. Catholic social teachings)
:(d) Theological and philosophical 
4) References, external links, etc
Yikes, this is way too ambitious for any given verse. Sorry if I've wasted our time/space. It could be an ideal arrangement.
Maybe do: For each verse, do the (1) text, as above.  For groups of verses:  do (2) Analysis, (3) Usage. It would be fine to have overlap in groupings because different exegeses/analyses cover different groupings. That's how the bibliographic databases handle the problem (e.g., ATLA Religion database).
Kudos for naming this "Hebrew Bible" and not a more POV term!
Take care.  --HG 05:18, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: How might we consistently arrange this category?

message: I am posting this discussion to the article on Genesis 1:1 where it rightly belongs. The nature of the category is not really under the microscope because the discussion begins with how the verses are to be presented. IZAK 00:09, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Posting this discussion at Genesis 1:1 article

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markus Schmaus (talk • contribs) 01:55, 17 January 2006
:No. That's been discussed elsewhere. Only those of encyclopedic interest. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are you really going to include all verses of the bible??? 

message: :Category:Hebrew Bible quotations was merged here on 3 December 2007. See discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 November 23#Category:Hebrew Bible quotations. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category merger