Talk:Meine Seel erhebt den Herren, BWV 10

message: Even if some later English writers called the work "German Magnificat", I find it confusing to mention that prominently in the lead before the normal meaning of "German Magnificat", the Luther text with the reciting tone, has been established. If mentioning it in the lead at all, then later please. Would you have a way? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Added my proposal to the FAC page, as, as said, I would stop discussion in two different places. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:26, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Replied there --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

text:  Thank you for thoughts. I am traveling, will comment probably tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  No hurry, this isn't going anywhere in the first few days – I will probably need even more time to develop a coherent draft which I can get behind. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

text:  Applied further updates. Still "preliminary" stage though. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:31, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

text:  Moved first three paragraphs of the further updated proposal to FAC, see comments there. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:19, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Magnificat in the lead 

message: Trying out wording:
(ref for the Tomita sentence: http://www.music.qub.ac.uk/tomita/essay/BfestLeipzig2003/index.htm – this and other references still need to be added to the above, only the references for the last sentence are complete – same as for the other try-outs in this section: nothing of a complete proposal yet). --Francis Schonken (talk) 14:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: 20th- and 21st-century concert and recording practice

message: Following up on a suggestion at the FAC (rough draft which would need additional references, and would amend or replace some of the text already in the article – so this is all quite preliminary):
(added some audio examples that may accompany the text). --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good text for a separate article, which could then be cited from the various works mentioned. It should not be part of one of them, imho. - In the last FAC, even my addition of adding other Bach cantatas on Luther's hymns was criticized as not to the topic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Introduced shortened version, with references, into the article, also moving the music examples there. Regrouped the "context" subsections from more "general" to more "narrow" context (i.e. texts and melodies relating to a very broad christian context → Magnificat/Visitation in Leipzig in the 1st half of the 18th century → "chorale cantata cycle" context with an even narrower context). See also FAC comments, including whether or not 1740s repeat performances of various Magnificats should be mentioned (depending on reliability of the sources that could support that). Anyhow, the article now has quite some commented-out text relating to this: about time to settle it... I don't think an article to be a suitable candidate for FA promotion if too many uncertainties (signified by commented-out text) remain. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Magnificats and Visitation cantatas in Bach's Leipzig

message: Recent WP:RSN filings regarding this article:
* Discussion about the Hofmann (& Suzuki) liner notes now archived at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 226#Hofmann liner notes in BWV 10 article
* I proposed a review of my decision to remove the Bach Cantatas external link at the RSN page. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:48, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  archived --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable sources noticeboard