Talk:List of stewards of the Chiltern Hundreds

message: I'm in the process of compiling information on Samuel Danks Waddy. One source says that he "accepted the Chiltern Hundreds" in December 1879. He does not, however, appear on this list. Is this list incomplete, or is my source incorrect? Thanks, JeremyA 02:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Name? 

message: Perhaps the reasons for taking the title could be included on this list: several of those I checked did so for "honourable reasons" (taking up posts elsewhere etc): while no mention is made in the relevant articles of taking the post in other cases.
Jackiespeel 21:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reasons for taking up Stewardship

message: Is referred to on the  list, but the link goes to a disambiguation page - can someone decide who is involved?
Jackiespeel 17:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thomas Kennedy

message: According to your entry on John Stonehouse, he applied for the stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds but did not sign the papers, making him ineligible for this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.0.72 (talk • contribs) 
:That refers to when Stonehouse was first arrested in Australia in early 1975. He didn't apply for the Chiltern Hundreds then; he did in August 1976, after he had been repatriated, tried, convicted and sent to jail. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 18:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Stonehouse 

message: He is currently down as 12th June (Thursday), but in fact "Mr Davis is expected to take the Chiltern Hundreds on Friday or Monday".  Open4D (talk) 12:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Needs to wait until there is an formal announcement before it is included here, and be properly sourced. 136.8.150.6 (talk) 14:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Davis 

message: Anybody know why the reflist & SeeAlso jump above the list of stewards? Bazj (talk) 13:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i tried that... or so i thought. thanks TPH! ninety:one 20:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page layout 

message: Agree that the post must have been vacant after David Davis' resignation, so he could fight the by-election he caused. But doesn't this apply to some earlier ones as well? At the very least, William McCrea in 1985. Ceemage (talk) 12:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vacancies 

message: There does not seem to be a Contents Index. Is this unique to me/my preferences or this wikipage? Þjóðólfr (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by a contents index? Ironholds (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The article's table of contents has been suppressed using the __NOTOC__ magic word. (Oddly, the wikicode is located in the section #1850 - 1900 rather than near the beginning of the article.) The table of contents for the List of Stewards of the Manor of Northstead article is similarly disabled. But in both cases, I don't know why __NOTOC__ has been added. — Richardguk (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added back when the article wasn't cut into sections; unless anyone dissents, feel free to remove it. Ironholds (talk) 22:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info. I have removed __NOTOC__. Þjóðólfr (talk) 08:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Contents Index

message: This list is largely based on Appointments to the Chiltern Hundreds and Manor of Northstead Stewardships since 1850, published by the House of Commons  Department of Information Services.
A revised version of that list was published in January 2010, which contains a significant number of new entries, and apparently some revisions. For example, I have just added a missing entry to the Northstead list.
I suggested that this list be fully checked against the new version of the  Department of Information Services list. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed 

message: The History of Parliament states that the Member for Cashel was appointed to the Chiltern Hundreds on 9 November 1801, but he is not given in this list. Opera hat (talk) 18:42, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Bagwell 

message: Mercer has been added as taking up the office on 29 April 2014, but there is no citation. This has not been announced on the Treasury website, which is where it usually appears. It would seem that Mercer has not yet (as of 30 April) been appointed. Anyone have the reference to suggest otherwise? --Frinton100 (talk) 23:41, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this press release from HM Treasury was available by 21:00 yesterday. It's dated 30 April, but nowhere does it state that the appointment was made on 30 April, or any other date. BBC Radio 4's Today programme was reporting it on 29 April, and BBC TV News were reporting it on 28 April. The official date should be given in the London Gazette, but notices can take some days to appear in there. Here's a search query. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The PR is dated 30th April, which will probably be the date he was formally appointed. His personal announcement was made on the 29th, with rumours of it on the BBC on the 28th. Typically, appointments are made at least a day after a resignation is announced, and given that his statement came at about 19.00 on Tuesday, it would seem unlikely he'd be appointed to the Chiltern Hundreds the same day. I have therefore amended the date on his appointment to the 30th with a link to the PR. Frinton100 (talk) 13:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's the notice from the London Gazette. It's dated 29 April, and uses the text "has this day appointed". --Redrose64 (talk) 16:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrick Mercer 

message: The article says:
:The current office holder is Mark Reckless, who was elected as Conservative MP for Rochester and Strood and asked for appointment as Steward in order to force a by-election at which he stood as candidate of the UK Independence Party.
Surely this can't be correct though, because Reckless stood in the by-election and took his seat back in the Commons (albeit only for a few months till he lost it again in the general election). The whole point of the Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds role is that you are not permitted to be an MP whilst holding it, so he must have resigned as steward before the by-election? Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 15:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Reckless 

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I added the "?" parameter to the  template, which helped some, pushing the "point of failure" past 1850, which made for a much cleaner split.  It also makes the tables easier to read, especially on narrow-screen devices.
I moved the "Up to 1799" and "1800-1849" tables to a new page, List of Stewards of the Chiltern Hundreds 1751-1849.
Ideally, Wikipedia software would not have such limitations and such a split would not be needed.  But it does, so something had to be done and a split was the most straightforward solution.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:11, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  1751 to 1849 split off to [[List of Stewards of the Chiltern Hundreds 1751-1849]] to work around a Wikipedia technical limitation 

message: The Dual appointments section needs (i) referencing and (ii) clarifying.
Regarding the former, this is to prevent claims of WP:NOR.
As regards the latter, it should be emphasised that these were not simultaneous appointments - a person can't be steward of the Chiltern Hundreds and also steward of the Manor of Northstead at the same time - there would be no point. Other than Charles Beresford, who seems to have been steward of the Chiltern Hundreds twice (1889 and 1900) and subsequently steward of the Manor of Northstead twice (1903 and 1916), are there no people who accepted one of the two offices, and some time later, accepted the same office again? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual appointments