Talk:Reverend Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping

message: I believe the name of the church is the Church of Stop Shopping. Can someone involved make that change to the title. On Rev Billy's page that is the name of the church.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insertculture (talk • contribs) 22:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like you are right. :) Of course, there's a redirect, but even so I note that as of this writing "Stop Shopping" is far more commonly used than "Life after Shopping" in regards the org. Currently 618,000 hits to 141,000. Moved. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

text: Provide a reliable source to support the name. Someone will be able to help at that point. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:31, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Change 

message: Rock On, Rev. Billy!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.248.51.198 (talk) 03:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rock on 

message: It seems that this "Reverend Billy" and his "church" are sort of mocking religion. In a yahoo article  it mentions that he is intending to compare corporations in America to the Roman Catholic church. I however feel that the manner he chooses to do so in "mocks" actual organized religion. Even if it is just the Catholic church, it is still sort of "makes fun" of religion. Perhaps this should be noted? Zchris87v 04:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not without a source. Btw, aren't all religions a mocking?--BMF81 09:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see him targeting the Catholic church as much as media churches or big box churches and television preachers. Benjiboi 03:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious imitation? 

message: you're mistaken read the link.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.247.24 (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ??? 

message: Bill Talen may be a christian, however the reverend in the movie is not. Midways in the movie he prays to "the great unknown", when praying for a child outside the mall (about 1h:15m in to the movie) he prays to "the He/she". And in the last few minutes of the movie, in the very end, he says "You don't have to be a christian to believe". He does not speak about God as the heavenly father. He is just a parody of a preacher. I.e. both the preacher and the movie is mickey mouse, fake, it's not factual.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.77.121 (talk) 00:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Such an inclusive doctrine actually lies well within the realms of existing Christian theology. Take Rev. Carlton Pearson's "Gospel of Inclusion" as an example. Yes, it is true that he is a parody preacher. But I have heard him (both in and out of character) and others speak of a definite spiritual dimension to his work. Though the preacher shtick may have started out as an absurdest spectacle, it seems to have taken on a life of it's own. He is preaching a gospel that is very close to his heart. Even though the form was originally taken on in jest, it has achieved a certain level of seriousness in light of the substance which it serves. in this light, I would say that he is more of a 'real' preacher than your average charismatic televangelist.24.47.154.230 (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian or not 

message: Now that Talen is a NYC mayoral candidate and getting substantial media attention in that role, shouldn't there be separate articles for him as an individual and The Church of Life After Shopping (the new name for his organization)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.65 (talk) 15:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Articles? 

message: There's no mention of an NPOV dispute on this talk page, so is the NPOV tag invalid?
If it is, should it be removed?
Energybeing (talk) 10:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone can remove it. Ideally the person who removes it would post a message here saying "I do not see any NPOV concern here."  Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:13, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Michael Shade added the NPOV tag in February with the edit summary "The first paragraph currently is written in the first person, presumably by someone with a personal connection to the group. It should be re-written." If he means the lead, it appears to have been edited down to one sentence. The next section, on his origins, is unsourced and I would argue is not written in a neutral voice. Probably this whole article needs an overhaul and better sourcing. freshacconci talk to me 13:30, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

text: As the original NPOV concern has been resolved, I think the NPOV tag should be removed. I agree that citations are needed in the "Origins" section, but I think this is already covered by the Refimprove tag. Energybeing (talk) 09:19, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Be bold! If you think it should be removed then remove it. If there is a reason to put it back, someone can put it back and start a section saying "The tag is necessary for these reasons..."  Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invalid NPOV tag? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In this article, some of my recently-added other-article links were subsequently reverted by a more experienced WP editor, due to violations of WP:OVERLINK.  Point taken, and I will try to be more judicious in the future.  I am not actually familiar with the subject of this particular article, but find it interesting.  I have no intention of getting into an "edit war", and instead prefer consensus with other interested editors.
I would like to reach consensus about the following: Some of the material in this article might be hard to follow for someone who is unfamiliar with certain aspects of American popular culture (e.g., a non-native reader of English, or a younger South Asian), or unfamiliar with certain locations in NYC that are named in the article (like myself, who lives in Chicago).  Therefore , I propose to nonetheless activate links for a few words and phrases, such as "Elvis-like".  Also, it does appear to me that, for clarity, any English-language WP article about a USA topic ought to always "ground" the text geographically in the USA in at least one location within that article.  (Even though any given en:WP article might written by a USA resident, anyone in the world might read it.) Acwilson9 (talk) 04:23, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked what you did. I think that most of your links are useful. When the article talks about highly specific places or concepts, then there should be wikilinks. I recommend skipping some of the bigger places and concepts, like United States, Christian, and some major city names, but I say keep at least 80% of the links you have. I could help with this if you like.  - do you have any comment on which links might be appropriate, and which you would not want to see here?  Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:38, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Violations of WP:OVERLINK 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Extinction Rebellion New York clip (03:15) published on YouTube on 20 January 2019, search "Extinction Rebellion in New York City: Rev Billy & Choir".
With best wishes.  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 17:32, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't a news source. If there are multiple reliable sources that discussed it, we should mention it as well. If they're just primary sources that say it was about to happen or that it happened, we don't need to mention it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinction Rebellion New York performance needs adding 

message: I included a very short (single sentence) paragraph about Reverend Billy's 2009 Mayoral Campaign under "Direct Actions." I clearly did not quite get the referencing format right, but am not sure how to do so. I also wanted to included an additional reference to a NYT article on the same topic (https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/nyregion/02billy.html) but as I already botched creating the first reference, I decided to quit while I was ahead. I would appreciate if the editors could adjust the reference so it is correctly formatted and/or offer me guidance -- beyond the help page -- on how to do so. Thank you. Berniethecat (talk) 20:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayoral Campaign