Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools/Archive 1

message: It was suggested by User:Maurreen that the KERA article may find some reasonable inclusion in  WikiProject:Schools.  Maybe a child project for School reform would fit in here. Just a thought Quinobi 15:41, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Child Project -- School Reform 

message: I'm wondering if a sub-table of some sort with a heading like schools in <this city> can be added to the existing Demographics tables. That way schools that do have pages could have a relevant link and new schools could be added with less geographical ambiguity. Any thoughts? Quinobi 15:41, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Geography and Demographics section 

message: In your schools template you have a link to Image (school seal or photo) in which someone earlier today placed the Groton School logo.  This was speedily deleted; the third time someone has had to do this.  Could you possibly find another way of getting the message across that the school's logo itself needs to go in this space, rather than an article called Image (school seal or photo) containing a logo or photo? -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 01:31, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template message 

message: The Moanalua High School and Iolani School articles have been up for a long while and have been up without profile templates like the cookie-cutter one featured on this WikiProject page.  Unfortunately, when designing my version of the templates and after having changed or added my version of the template to all the Hawaii-based school articles that exist — Farrington High School, Kamehameha Schools, McKinley High School, Punahou School —  only then did I realize there existed your cookie-cutter template.  I thought I should mention that before you guys feel like I've stepped on anyone's shoes by inadvertantly transforming the standard you guys were expecting to use for all school articles.  My apologies!  --Gerald Farinas 03:11, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile template 

message: What are some reasonable guidelines/formatting for these, and are they allowed at all? --Teria 21:06, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online schools 

message: I've seen one too many conflicts between Wikipedians on the matter of whether or not a school is notable.  I would suggest that a Wikibook be added to this Project's activities entitled something like "Education Almanac: Your school, my school, all the schools" which is a first storage place for articles on particular schools.  As a school page grows in the Wikibook, it could be nominated by anyone for tranclusion in Wikipedia, but the default for most schools would be to reside in the Almanac.
As a side note, I'm not involved with this Project at this time, nor have I initiated or contributed to a Wikibook in the past.
Regards, Courtland 16:15, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)
: I think it would be a great way to reduce conflict around this. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:09, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
:: Yes, Good Idea.  --Rj 21:06, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
:Would a wikibook be created for, say :Category:British railway stations?  Or any other type of public institution?  --BaronLarf 04:37, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
::That depends, it might be, but only if you insist on comparing apples with oranges.  What do you have against British railway stations? Chris talk back 23:44, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education Almanac - a suggestion 

message: Is it possible that a lot of the objections could be avoided if there was a process to follow?  One part of the process would be whatever is decided in other discussions on content for an article.  The other part could be a set of steps to follow working up to an individual school article. 
As long as a school is listed, then a search of the form "whatever High School" would show the wiki data for the school.
I'm thinking that the following steps be might be used:
# The community the school is in has a WP entry
# The school district has a WP entry (how to handle private schools?  Maybe a heading under the district?)
# The individual school's entry is first developed in the district page
# When the entry meets all of the other criteria, it is moved to a new page and its entry in the school district page is replaced by a link with a few comments.
Reasonable? Vegaswikian 00:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like a generally good approach; I would guess that privat schools should skip the intermediate steps and develop in the community page. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:57, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
While an overall structure is an admirable goal, there are so many differences among how schools relate to districts in the U.S. (and you can multiply the problems when you include secondary schools around the globe).  I don't have answers, but let me raise a few problems:
* In Illinois, school districts are numbered and I would venture to guess few people know the school district number of any district outside their own.  In fact, my son goes to Evanston Township High School and, sitting here right now, I can't even tell you the district number although I should know it.  ETHS is the only school in the district (we have a separate district that covers the primary and middle schools), and virtually no one refers to ETHS by the district number.  In terms of finding a school, identifying an Illinois high school by district would be confusing.
* In a large urban area like Chicago, sorting public schools by the community also presents a difficulty.  New Trier High School is a single high school (now with two campuses) that covers a large portion of what is known as the "North Shore."  Listing the school under Winnetka, Illinois, which is one fairly small village within the school district's boundaries, would not be very helpful.  Most suburban Cook County high schools are organized by township.  A township covers many local communities but in most areas of Cook County is now a relatively insignificant governmental entity and is not viewed as a community.  Evanston is some aberrant since Evanston Township and the City of Evanston share the same name and boundaries (though, interestingly, despite its name the high school district includes a small portion of Niles Township).  Elsewhere on this page, an unsigned comment mentions Adlai E. Stevenson High School, which presents a similar issue in Lake County.  That school is located in Lincolnshire but includes many Lake County communities.
* Private schools, at least in a large suburban area, also frequently cross community lines and have no school districts.  I doubt that many people looking for Loyola Academy would look under Wilmette, Illinois, probably not even those living in that village.  Frequently a school may be more notable that the town or village where it happens to be physically located.
* On the other hand, in many cases the community is the most appropriate place to find a school.  I grew up in Marshall, Illinois which has a single "unit" school district comprising two elementary schools, one junior high school (grades 7 and 8) and one high school.  It is truly a community school.  Although the City of Marshall itself covers only about three square miles of the largely rural district (which itself spans about 200 square miles), the "community" of Marshall clearly includes people in the surrounding area who eat, shop, attend religious services and go to school in Marshall.
Again, I don't have answers, just questions. DS1953 18:17, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion Process: a proposal 

message: FYI: Just to let you know, I found these two related templates that are currently orphaned and unused. As a courtesy, I'll wait 24 hours until putting them on TFD (unless someone gets to them first), hoping somebody will start using them. I'm also posting this same message on Wikipedia:Schools. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Template:Infobox school]] and [[:Template:Infobox U.S. school]] 

message: I have created a small template to place on the talk pages of high school articles to show that they are being watched and expanded as the project aims to do. If you wish to change the wording of the template, please do so.
Otherwise, add it to school articles to show what this Project is doiong on Wikipedia. Harro5 05:33, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
*Looks good. I've found that the old Template:Infobox school and Template:Infobox U.S. school are not actually in use, and do not conform to the template guidelines on this project's main page; as such, I've nominated them for TFD (a redirect would probably be best), please let me know if this is in error. Radiant_* 11:05, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
**I noticed that the two "old" infoboxes that you posted for deletion were only created one month ago and ten days ago.  Perhaps that is not really enough time to see if they will be used ... DS1953 14:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP Schools template 

message: It is my thought that schools should not be inherently part of Wikipedia.  Being as they are, they don't have a particularly authoritative place in an encyclopedia, but they might show up better in something like wikipages, which is a Wikipedia-related project.  Potentially in the future we could even discuss entire sites about this topic, but I'm just not sure about the demand at this point. Nicholas Ink 0:07, 1 June 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipages? 

message: I am not a member of this project, nor do I intend to become one.  However, I stumbled across this school's article, Fox Lane High School, and noticed something.  It has a nice section called Information.  Do all school entries have such entries?  If so, I think the information might be better contained in a template, much like the Computer and video games WikiProject.  You might want to look into creating something similar. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:04, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
*We have . Kappa 08:08, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: I'd like to address the issue of classifying schools by century. There are a whole lot of categories like :Category:Schools established in the 700s etc, as well as a template listing them all, at Template:Schools established (now Template:Eiei-century-table. However, I feel that this is a very arbitrary classification of schools, since there isn't an obvious difference between a school founded in 1895 and one in 1905. Moreso because the earlier categories are likely to remain near-empty all the time, and the category for 20th century would list 90% of all schools. Would the WikiProject please reconsider whether this categorization is in fact necessary? Schools are more usefully categorized by location, and possibly by doctrine or way of teaching.
(for extremely old schools, I think it's useful OTOH to list their founding at the proper year article, e.g. 1488). Radiant_>|< 11:59, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
This has already been discussed here.   The community consensus was that these categories serve as useful organisation tools.  If you come across additional categories which you feel may add value to an article, by all means please create them. --Bahn Mi 07:48, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schools by century? 

message: What category or categories should be used for schools that offer K-12 education?  Vegaswikian 06:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  K-12 

message: I'd like to create, single-handedly if necessary, an article on Seminary Hill School in Lebanon, NH.  Is there a naming convention to follow?  There have been other schools with this name, but all are now either shut down or have had their names changed. Is it safe to call the article Seminary Hill School?  -Micler 14:13, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
: There is an informal convention, which is to append some locator to the name of the school.  In this case, probably Seminary Hill School, New Hampshire would be fine.  In other cases the town name is enough (but obviously not for Lebanon, which is the name of several towns and also the name of a country), in yet others the county.  Articles are easily moved around so it isn't important to get it right first time.  In fact it may be advisable to create it at Seminary Hill School and then move it (or get an admin to do so if you are unable to), because that way there will be a redirect for the name of the school, which if necessary can be expanded into a disambiguation at a later date. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:02, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: I've recently nominated Richfield Senior High School for deletion and this project was brought to my attention. I haven't done a very thorough check of this project or it's subpages or current interests, but I have skimmed. Forgive me if this has already been discussed or is otherwise not a wise thing to be posting.
I see that Wikipedians have already attempted to establish a deletion policy a la Wikipedia:Schools, but this simply seems to state that any school is notable. I don't take issue with that really, but it doesn't appear to be a good compromise with people who have the opposite viewpoint.
I would like to see attention more focused on this issue -- if there is a way we can expedite the adoption of Wikipedia:Schools or any other policy that determines the validity of ordinary elementary and secondary school entries, I think we should do that. There isn't much point in having a project built around possibly invalid articles, so I think you will agree that it is important to have this issue permanently settled. Maybe there's something we can do with the recent revisions to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion? I don't know if they're still accepting proposals there or not, but you know.
Thank you. Cookiecaper 05:10, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: K I posted a proposal on Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal. Cookiecaper 20:24, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: It struck me that the WikiProject Schools deals almost exclusively with schools in the United States, and some in Canada and England. In the spirit of countering systemic bias, might I suggest that some more attention is given to schools in other places? It's far easier on the web to get information on an American school than on an African one, so that is precisely an area where Wikipedia could help the world by containing information that is otherwise hard to access. Radiant_>|< 09:27, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
:I have added the school that I go to in India and helped out on a university in Jordan as well. I am encouraging others to do the same. (Arundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 12:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Systemic bias?

message: Currently, Our Lady of Ransom School is listed on VfD. Since the original author neglected to include the word 'School' in the title, many voters may have missed this one. The article needs improvement, but is a verifiable school. Pburka 18:11, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  School on VfD 

message: Do you think an article about a school or a school system will be better for Wikipedia? The school article I want to create is Havelock High School (my alumnus): school board article is Craven County Schools (North Carolina). Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:41, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Given that the members of this project have show the ability to improve the quality if articles, I was suprised to not see a place for identifying an article that could be selected as a featured article.  I added a heading to the project page to suggest an article for this honor.  I also added another heading for articles that could use a little work to move up their quality.  My guess is that there may be around 1,000 school articles that could use more work.  Vegaswikian 23:19, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article quality and feature article 

message: The Southern California WikiProject has created a subpage for SoCal schools that either have one of the cleanup templates or the  template. If anyone is interested in helping to fill this page, or with improving the school articles listed on the page, they can find it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern California/Schools to do, or the much-easier-to-type shortcut WP:WPSC-S. Also, if the Schools WikiProject is planning on taking any of the articles on SoCal Schools to Peer review, or Featured article candidates, we would appreciate a notification. BlankVerse ∅ 13:44, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sothern California schools 

message: The article on Teenage pregnancy has been nominated on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. To support the nomination, vote for it Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive#Nominations here.--Fenice 07:08, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement Drive

message: Thanks,
Stellertony the Bookcrosser 07:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: First impressions are that it's pretty good, though it could used a section on actual studies/extracurriculars.. Also, could ya'll check out Hopkins School and give similar opinions? Staxringold 07:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone take a look at [[Steller Secondary School]] for me and let me know what you think? 

message: Hello, I recently created the article for this district.  The district has 370+ schools, and I'm hoping to make an article for all of them.  I've started with high schools, and I wanted to know if someone could look over them to make sure they're ok.  Also, I'm requesting assistance for making the articles for every school, even if they're just stubs.  If it's not worth making an article for every school, then that's ok, but I'd rather not have 300+ red links on a page.  Any suggestions, edits, and work on this article and any of its daughter articles is welcomed! PRueda29 17:08, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Miami-Dade County Public Schools]] 

message: Does this project endorse any particular templates?  there are quite a few available and nothing specific on which is to be used. See above for some ideas i am kicking around for lists.  Input and feedback would be welcome Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools#Template_for_listing_Schools.
I am also wondering if there is a naming convention for US schools.  While many are just the high school name. i.e. Felix High School, I am starting to see more with a designation as  'Felix High School, Little Town, Kansas' or as Felix High School (Little Town, Kansas).  Which format is to be used? David D. (Talk) 08:15, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: which template?

message: Is anyone, I mean anyone, really pushing for a Wikischool outside Wikipedia proper rather than have this large and theoretically unmanageable project here in Wikipedia? I've heard this being proposed so many times but no one seem to be doing anything about this. Surely this project has gone too large for a general encyclopedia proper? Mandel 11:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikischool

message: Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-Class and good B-Class articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable school articles? Obviously, a featured article like Caulfield Grammar School would  be suitable. Please post your suggestions here. Cheers!--Shanel 04:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

message: Hi! I'm cleaning up after a vandal, and I can't tell whether to delete a school page or not. Two requests: 1) If somebody thinks Madison academic high school is worth keeping as a stub, could they speak up? If not, I'll call for deleting it. And 2), could you put some clear guidelines at the top of your project page? I'm provisionally willing to trust whatever y'all decide, but it'd be great to make things easier on your fellow editors. Thanks! --William Pietri 04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a clear policy of never delete. All schools can be made into a stub.  Ironically the most effective way to get a school up to standard is to put it up for deletion, although, this is definitely not policy. Here is one example of a before the nomination, it is total garbage, and then it was whipped into shape by supporters of schoolwatch. David D. (Talk) 04:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Noted! Could you please put something that clearly states that at the top of the WikiProject Schools page, then? All I saw was a request not to do bulk deletes, and it wasn't clear to me that an unconnected stub with a history of boobies comments was quite so obviously a keeper. Thanks! --William Pietri 05:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really a member of this project, my perspective above is from my experience of working with schools and bumbling around in the dark like yourself. David D. (Talk) 11:31, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Actually, there is no such policy on Wikipedia.  A number of people would like to think so, and generally block any attempt to form an policy in this area, rather like trade union officials voting en bloc against any proposal they find unacceptable. Chris talk back 23:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Having read further on the controversy, I humbly plead with the various warring factions: come to some sort of compromise, even if it's a temporary one. Normally I'm a big fan of Wikipedia, but I'm frustrated over the amount of time I'm spending on a garbage article and saddened to see so much open antipathy and confusion. As a start, perhaps somebody could at least put an NPOV summary of the current state at the top of the WikiProject Schools page so that innocent bystanders like myself know that they're opening up such a large can of worms by touching an article that happens to be about a school? --William Pietri 02:49, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Sounds like instruction creep to me.  Participants have their own thresholds, and if something is renominated early (e.g. after only 3-4 weeks) people tend to shoot the nomination down anyway.  What we need in the meantime is something to get around the bloc voting.  Chris talk back 03:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearer delete policy, please? 

message: Hi, I figured if anyone could assist, it'd be this group. Nashua, New Hampshire is very close to featured article status IMO, but one of the things holding it back is the lack of details on the city's schools. I'll help where I can, but I wondering if you could assist as well since this is your focus. Karmafist 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for School Articles In A City

message: Public school is currently a disambiguation page, should it become an article? --Commander Keane 16:42, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public school 

message: I periodically come across sources of "notable alumni" that would be nice to add to a school article, but usually there's no school to add to (yet), and there's not sufficient time/info yet to make such an article.  Or even if there is an article for the school, I haven't always the time to go through all data of a particular source right at that moment.  In the past, I would just forget about, as I couldn't do anything with it.  But now, I started a list of such sources, so maybe I or others can use the info, when the school articles are ready, and somebody has the time.  --Rob 15:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Added:  I create Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/alumni as a place "scratch pad" to list notable alumni that should go in a school article, but the article isn't created yet.  Also, for those wishing to create a new school article, you can look here to see which schools have notable alumni, which help ensure you have sufficient content for an article that will interest a wider number of people.  --Rob 22:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni sources 

message: In the articles section, you have headers that say Possible candidates to be updated to template and List of articles using this template. What is this template. Furthermore, a list of currently used school infoboxes (not examples of them being plastered on the talk page) would be helpful. It seems to me that  is the only one with significant backing, but its title suggests it should only appear in Australian school articles. Why? Perhaps a page move is in order. — Ambush Commander(Talk) 18:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think originally there was an attempt to keep track of schools using the standards here (e.g. section names/order/organization/standards, not technically a Wikipedia "template"), but its not been maintained for a while, and it should be removed.  I will remove them, if nobody objects (if somebody objects, I will happily discuss it instead of acting).  As for infoboxes, there's little near-term hope of any standars in the area.  There seems to be to many variations in school organization in different places, to allow for a "one size fits all" infobox.  --Rob 08:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for clarification 

message: Would someone take a look at this. It was full of nonsense and POV. I did some tidy work on it but it needs a lot more and it needs watching. It started as a good article but was turned over to vandals. Also needs a US spell checker run on it. I only have a UK one. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:28, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Menlo School]]

message: I wanted to suggest regular school editors make a habit of informing new editors of this project on their respective talk pages.  We might mention the need of including standard pieces of information, like a link to a school web site.  I've done it, but would hope others do it also (so it doesn't look like I'm spamming).  Ideally, those targetted would be editors who's only (or nearly only) contribution so far is a school article, and that school article is a substub (just a couple sentences with no links) with just the one editor contributing to it.  Often the creator of an article can easily add more info, but just didn't know what was expected or needed.  --Rob 19:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I might add this is a great way to mentor new editors who may well go on to make significant contributions to other topics in wikipedia. David D. (Talk) 20:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we could design a template that shows them a basic set of links like  expands to? It doesn't take up much space and could give them quick access to the portal and related school links. (Arundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 04:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telling new school editors of this project 

message: Hi guys.  I'm working on Los Alamos High School and I thought it would be appropriate to include a table of every single state title the school has ever won.  What do you think?
--Ryan Utt 01:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics Section 

message: This was a complete mess. Full of POV, attack, etc. User:Pboyd04 and myself have cleaned it up. However, the school had already been put on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilsonville High School. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wilsonville High School]]

message: Could someone take a look at this article? The Teachers and Lunch sections seem rather trivial and POV to me. I deleted the Teachers section but it's reappeared and I'd rather not get into an edit war. Maybe a second opinion would be useful. Thanks. Gimboid13 23:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's my opinion of what should be done with it.  --Rob 23:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Bitburg High School]]

message: In the suggestions on the project page, it says that references should be from sources other than the school itself.  But when citing things like statistics (i.e. percent students of color, no. of faculty members, etc.), how can a source not be from the school itself?  Even if the statistic is published in an outside source, the statistic must have come from the school to begin with (unless the outside source went on campus and counted the teachers, which is ridiculous).  So isn't citing the school the only way to get some pieces of information?
Further, there's a small disagreement on the Albuquerque Academy page as to whether or not citing the school's student newspaper, The Advocate, is a valid citation under the guidelines on this project page.  I'm arguing that it is, because the administration has absolutely no say in what appears within The Advocate's pages; they do not see it before it is published, they cannot dictate what staff members report on, and they have no control over the angles taken.  It's practically an independent newspaper considering how little contact the staff has with the administration; to get information on a story, staff members would do exactly the same thing as a local news source would have to do, which makes a story from The Advocate just as valid as a story from any other news source. 
Comments and opinions would be appreciated. -Vontafeijos 06:47, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's value in a 3rd part source, even if they've got their info from the school itself.  As (if they're a reliable source) they would do fact checking, and verification.  Generally statistics (like enrollment) will be reported to government, and that's a reliable source.  As enrollment isn't usually contested, I wouldn't remove it from an article, just because the school is the only source.  It's really things like relative performance of the school (compared to others), which really need those independent sources.  Also, a 3rd party source is a good sign, that somebody outside the school cares about the information.  We also always have to be concerned that all schools will eventually close one day.  We don't want articles based on defunct website.  An article in a serious newspaper will be preserved permanently (if not online, then on paper in libraries).  --Rob 17:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Added:  I should be point out this is a voluntary project within Wikipedia.  It's not official policy.  Neither is what it says about "References".  For official policy, please read WP:V, and for official guidelines read WP:CITE, and WP:RS.  What this project says about "References" is *based* on those, but this project is not the official word.  --Rob 17:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference questions 

message: I've come across this at WP:AFC, but the requester appears to have made an account and written it themselves. Could someone with more experience in formatting school articles than I have drop in, add the source (http://www.piusx.net/) and generally make it look nice? - Mgm|(talk) 09:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lincoln Pius X High School]] 

message: At Talk:St. Albans School, I, User:Donbas, and User:JzG are having a disussion over how exactly to name and refer to the two schools. I would like some outside help, because I am an alumnus of the former school, and he is an alumnus of the latter. We think that a disambiguation page is necessary, although what kind we can't decide.  This is further confounded by the fact that there are other schools that might be searched for as "St. Albans School". JzG is also very busy on other more significant issues (User:Jason Gastrich), so I don't want to waste his time on what is a petty naming decision. I have posted a proposal for naming. Please comment.  Donbas 23:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[St. Albans School]] and [[St Albans School]]

message: Found this in Recent Changes. There is 5 paragraphs followed by 175+ links to Alumni and Principals. Of the links about 15 are blue and the rest are red. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Trinity College (Kandy)]]

message: Fix it or look for it on AfD. Denni ☯ 03:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Granite Falls Senior School]] 

message: Could someone here take a look at this article and see if it looks OK. It is so far the biggest one I have done here at Wikipedia, and was wondering if the article was a good one. (Arundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 19:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Overall, you did a good job.  The main thing I would suggest, is finding anything that's been written about the school over the years (e.g. newspapers and magazine) and using it as references.  Also :Image:Shcsj principals.jpg is probably not useable, as it probably is copyrighted by the school.   It's unlikely that all the images in it, have been licensed to GFDL. --Rob 12:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. I showed it to the webmaster, Abhishek, who said that it was fine, but you might be right about the images. I will double check and see what they say. I will try to find magazines that have had writeups about it. There have been newspapers that have featured it, most notably the Telegraph, so I will look there too. Some others have criticised that it sounds a little too much like a promotional article, and I am trying to avoid that tone, but I am not sure how successful I have been because sometimes I have trouble being objective about my own writing. Thanks for the advice. :) (Arundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 16:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sacred Heart Convent School (Jamshedpur)]] 

message: I happened to notice that Lwów–Warsaw School of Logic was marked as being related to this project. I think that was an error by someone who didn't realize that the article is about a school of thought, not an educational institution. If I've misunderstood something here, please feel free to revert. --Trovatore 03:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lwów–Warsaw School of Logic

message: * Is there a schools cleanup section. If so, the Alta Loma High School should be added to it. I would be grateful for any advice. Capitalistroadster 04:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Schools Cleanup

message: Hi,
Over at the new Beatles WikiProject we're in the startup stages, assessing our existing articles, finding red links, planning the project and so on. Two surprising ommissions (redlinks) have sprung up:
*Liverpool College of Art - where John Lennon "studied" art and met Cynthia Powell
*Dovedale Infants - George Harrison's school
No doubt we'll get to these in due course, but if you feel that schools with Beatle alumni are a bad ommission and have the resources to put that right sooner than we can, your help would be appreciated.
If you need to reply or require assistance, please drop a line at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles. --kingboyk 05:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some surprising redlinks - Beatle alumni 

message: Alberta charter schools, charter school, and other articles, state, as I feel is correct, that charter schools are a type of public school.  This is disputed by at least one editor who feels they are "private schools".  Those interested, may wish to voice an opinion on the relevant talk pages.  In particular, some input from an American perspective would be useful.  Examples of authoritative sources using the term "public school" or "private school" would also be desired. --Rob 17:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  public schools / charter schools 

message: I am trying to get permission (a lengthy edit history is thwarting speedy delete) to cleanup the article history of Carroll High School (Fort Wayne, Indiana) for various vandal-type and legal reasons. Some well-meaning newbies are all for the "it's a school - keep it" line (my how times have changed for the better!). Please pipe in with your comments if you wish: Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/Carroll High School (Fort Wayne, Indiana) - Davodd 01:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carroll High School (Fort Wayne, Indiana)]] 

message: Would someone please take a look at Christian Heritage School (Texas)?  It is my belief that including a list of staff like this is not encyclopedic, but the author of the article WatchHawk thinks otherwise.  Isn't our convention that including administration is fine, but including a list such of this is not? Metros232 22:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you meant "a list of staff like this is not encyclopedic".  I think the list is to long, and should stick with just the top few.  Usually, I don't even go beyond the principal/headmaster.  Usually lists that long, do get trimmed. --Rob 23:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The list also includes teachers listed as no longer being employees.  How should I handle this situation in general?  I had previously taken the list out but then was reverted by WatchHawk.  Metros232 13:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically, what you did (removing it and seeking discussion) is about all you can do.  I just removed it again.  I think most editors support removal of such information, other editors will likely/hopefully also remove it, if it comes back.  --Rob 14:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your help with it.  I didn't want to remove it again and just start some revert war between myself and WatchHawk.  Metros232 14:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of staff 

message: I created the category that was linked to in the  Article Talk Pages section. :Category:WikiProject Schools Articles Foxjwill 19:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Schools Articles 

message: Booker Arts and Science Magent Elementary School For starters, I didn't even tag with cleanup or remove the obviously un-WP edits such as "This page last updated" etc. - apologies, I am simply too buried. However, this article is in serious need of assistance. I bring it to you, hoping someone in the project will have time to at least do a little triage. KillerChihuahua?!? 01:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: School article in drastic need of help

message: On this school's article, someone has been adding a "Critics of the Performing Arts Removal" section.  I removed it once , then a week later the person left me an angry message on my talk page  and readded the section .  I think that this is a totally POV section, it's poorly written, and it has no place in the school's article.  Does anyone have any thoughts on this?   Metros232 13:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[North Atlanta High School]] 

message: I started my high school's article (Lake Brantley High School) and though it's currently a mess, it's been successful as judged by number of edits, etc. One of the troubling aspects is the random entries in the Notable Students/Alumni section. There are some definite notable alumni--albeit only from the entertainment industries--but there are others who are not terribly notable. Are there guidelines for who goes into a "Notable Alumni" section? Do a "young rapper of the year" (redlink), a former NFL player (nolink) or an actor with two appearances in his IMDB profile (questionable wikilink) count? Do other school pages have this problem? Rolando 14:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the rule is, include them if they have an article, or if they meet WP:BIO requirements.  Also, they should only be included if you can cite a source for them.  An NFL player should qualify, but a "young rapper of the year" sounds dubious (unless there's more to them).  Also, you'll find the the rules generally range, depending on the size of the list.  You should be truly famous to be on Hollywood High School, but you can be barely famous for schools that wouldn't have anybody without you.  I think, however, simply demanding a good reliable source for the names (proving they went to the school), usually filters out the excess names. --Rob 17:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guidelines for Notable Alumni 

message: I added a infobox to the R. A. Long High School article, but the picture seems overpower teh article text.  Is there a method for reducing the image size inside the infobox?  Thanks, --TeaDrinker 21:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alas, no.  The template forces the image to be displayed 300 pixels wide, and the height will be scaled by the same factor (almost exactly 1:1 in this particular case).  RossPatterson 20:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture sizes in templates 

message: We have a problem with the article about the Seattle high school named after President Garfield. Familiarity with the school is not needed to help out here as all the information is laid out on the  talk page. Two things are not clear:
#What the official name of the school is.
#What the article title should be.
Please read the section linked to and give an opinion.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 05:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help! 

message: The Royal Grammar School Worcester page is currently a FAC. I would welcome any input and comments you all have on the article. --Wisden17 23:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC Candidate