Talk:Muhammad/Mediation Archive 1

message: Please feel free to move this to an appropriate section.  The welcome section states "I expect that the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article."  I agree that the policies and guidelines that apply, should apply equally to all images.  However, I believe that the facts surrounding the Maome image are significantly different from the facts surrounding most other images of Muhammad.  Thus, I believe that the application of the same policies and guidelines to all images of Muhammad may result in different outcomes for the different images.  Could you clarify whether "the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article" is intended mean that outcome (i.e. whether to include or exclude) may depend upon the particular image under consideration?  Thanks.  --BostonMA talk 19:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It means that if the outcome of this is that the image does not appear on the page, and then someone runs off and finds another image an hour later and posts it, that the things we discuss here should be considered there as well. It's been my experience that where there's one debate, there is another waiting behind the door.  Make sense? --Aguerriero (talk) 19:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes sense that the principles that are discussed here should apply to future images that may be added or deleted.  I think we are on the same page, but I'm not entirely sure.  Rather than beat this to death, I will sign my name above with the understanding that the uniform application of principles to different concrete questions can result in different concrete results.  If you think there is further need to clarify this issue, please do so now.  Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 19:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with Aguerriero too. When the issue started, we had only one image. Now, I see that there are three images. God's know how many images will be added a year from now if the dispute is not over. --Truthpedia 20:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed with Aguierro. BTW, looking at the edit and page history of Mohammed, I think there are many more people who have debated this issue, and probably should be invited. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 20:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I look forward to a mediated discussion, as the subject can summon strong emotions even without trying. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 20:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  For me personally it was never a dispute about just one image but in general. Hence I also agree with Aguerriero on this. Secondly I hope soon more people will join it hence wait for few days please. --- ابراهيم 09:23, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I bet you haven't had many mediations of this size before. :-D -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 16:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is obviuous to me that the real issue is one of any images, not just of one image as Boston suggests. Golly, if we do this as a one-off then we'll be doin it daily, mediating cases of every image of Mohammud that's findable on the Web and uploaded into Wiki. That means there's no need to further clarify any issue - it's pretty clear already. So there's the 'concrete question' - should we include images of Mohammud? Anser that yes or no and we'll have a 'concrete answer.' I also agree that more people should be invited to this discussion so that when the resolution arrives there will be less whining about exclusion.DocEss 17:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for clarification