Talk:Mystery Spot

message: It needs to be fixed up or removed it is extremely POV and violates WP:NPOV. RgoodermoteNot an admin  02:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal account and different explanation 

message: Can anyone explain, why GPS-devices are/seems to be distorted? --MrBurns (talk) 16:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps they employ a sort of jamming signal? KevinOKeeffe (talk) 12:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GPS 

message: Choppershox, your reference might be better placed on the gravity hill page. Cactus Wren (talk) 09:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gravity hills 

message: I know this is an illusion, but what I can't figure out is how they got the redwood trees in the middle of the mystery spot to corkscrew or all the surrounding redwoods to bend and lean toward the center.  I find that very unusual.
I think it is very odd that nobody can really tells us how old the trees are!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:9B03:5300:C1F1:EF1:5441:15E9 (talk) 01:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trees 

message: "For a detailed explanation of the "'Mystery Spot Illusion'", see Shimamura and Prinzmetal (1999)." ?? No link, no cite, and also, the point of wiki articles is a detailed explanation is it not? Why would we go elsewhere? Also, how many regular people like me know what the heck Shimamura and Prinzmetal is? I don't know what this is about so if someone does I think it could fixing. Thanks Eddie mars (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Sentance in Illusion explanation 

message: First, I want to confirm that there are no “puzzling variations of gravity, perspective, and height” as the Mystery Spot (MS) claims. All of the constructions at MS were built for one purpose: illusion. The tilted cabin and fence were built in the background to heighten the illusory effects. The slanted road leading up to the hill and tilted cabin floor add to this effect by making it difficult for visitors to move about the area.
When I came to MS about 15 years ago, I sensed something fishy, but at that time but I had no tools to prove anything. Time went by and MS was pushed to the back of my mind, but I always knew that there something was not right about it.
 
On Tue 8/09/11, my wife asked me to take the family (7 people) to visit MS. I had not planned to bring any tools to prove my theory, but as we approached Santa Cruz, I realized that my new Nikon D7000 camera came equipped with a leveler.
 
At MS, using the same old trick, the guide also had a leveler with him. Close to the entrance, the guide showed us that the compass had changed the directions. Since I did not have a compass, I will not discuss this part of the visit.
 
The guide asked the group to go up the hill. In front of the slanted cabin, he placed a three-foot wooden bar horizontally at the window. About one foot hung outside the window, the other end of the bar laid on the bench inside the cabin. He put the leveler on the wooden bar; he even carefully flipped the leveler a couple times to make sure the wooden bar was level. Then he placed a pool table cue ball on the wooden bar. The cue ball rolled from the cabin and out of the window. The guide poured a bottle of water on the wooden bar and the water ran in the same direction as the ball. He asked the visitors if they had anything they wanted to roll. My wife gave him a lipstick. He put it on the bar and the lipstick rolled the same direction as the other objects. As all of the objects rolled in one direction on a perfectly level bar, everybody stared in wide-eyed shock and wonder. I, however, was in doubt.
 
After the tour, my wife and I walked back to the area where the guide demonstrated with the wooden bar. Nobody was there. I positioned the wooden bar the same way the guide had. I then placed my camera on top to check the level and discovered it was off about 10 degrees. I pulled the bar out about two feet and hung it outside the window. The camera showed that it was level at this position. I put the lipstick on the bar and there was no movement. This time, I was in shock. Thanks, Nikon. Thanks for the new technology.
 
How has this scam lasted over 70 years? How many children believe in this scam? How much money has this business collected the last 70 years? This place is destroying the innocence of our children. At home, I told my children the truth about this place and they could not understand why people would scam the public like that. I had no answer. Do you?
 
Where are the scientists and professionals? How would you explain if somebody asks you about MS? Where about the city of Santa Cruz? Where are the new papers TV stations? 
 
This spot has no mystery. The only mystery here is how this ruse has survived over 70 years.
A few other things that made me suspicious: Only cash or debit for admission but there are NO TICKET. Visitors received receipts, which were later collected by the guide.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hchcnguyen (talk • contribs) 06:13, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  BIG SCAM 

message: I think we just need to remove "However, despite thousands of visitors, university professors, and television crews, there have been no conclusive results as to the true cause of the effects.". This is just some fun text from the brochure. Its not objective fact.--99.0.0.53 (talk) 04:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix for ad like tone 

message: The Blackwell Handbook of Sensation and Perception
 edited by E. Bruce Goldstein  "and the internal room. This is the phenomenon of the alteration of perceived eye height (Matin & Li, 1992). We also notice that a freely rolling ball appears to move uphill, as does spilt water, appearing to defy gravity. Several of these examples have become well-known tourist attractions. The Mystery Spot in California’s Santa Cruz Mountains is a particularly good example (Murphy, 1986). Here and in more controlled laboratory situations, it is evident that we have a visually based module (with shallow outputs) which tells us about the direction of the upright. These “mandatory” mechanisms cannot be shut down and continue to give us false information even though we arc aware of the circumstances giving rise to the illusion. Under these circumstances, the perceptual module is so strong and ubiquitous that it cannot be ignored. Observers, including the proprietors of such establishments, not familiar with these phenomena of visual perception, explain the rather disparate array of phenomena as due to a “mysterious physical force” yet to be explained by physicists. For example, my tour guide in the Santa Cruz mountains assured us that the place was visited by America’s top rocket scientists, Werner von Braun and Albert Einstein, and that neither could explain it."
And  which names the owner and dates it to 1941. Dougweller (talk) 15:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source 

message: This page has a really annoying gee whiz we sure dunno what causes the strange phenomena at the mystery spot durp durp tone to it. 
This is an encyclopedia, not a brochure for a tourist trap. There are no mysterious phenomena. I came here to read how these illusions are designed and what scientific principles they are based on and instead I get credulous wide eyed wonderment from the bumpkins of the internet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.32.24.140 (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed a bit. There are two good paragraphs explaining this. Doug Weller talk 10:56, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article tone