Talk:The Tragically Hip

message: Whoever put that the new track wouldn't sound out place on a barenaked ladies album is insulting the Tragically Hip. Also, I don't beleive that's anywhere close to NPOV but I thought I should give a heads up before deleting it.
207.6.121.17 01:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it really necessary to have such a lengthy paragraph about that one song? It would be sufficient to say "they are releasing a new album on such-and-such a date and the first single is such-and-such song". Adam Bishop 06:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New track 

message: Did you see the little canadian flag in the band box recently added. Funny, but, is it really useful. See also other canadian band as Finger Eleven, Our Lady Peace and in :Category:Canadian rock groups
:Check out this essay: Wikipedia:Don't overuse flags. -- Reaper  X 01:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  funny little canadian flag 

message: Since when is their motto a tribute to the Hip? This seems like a stretch. Has anyone ever confirmed that it's a tribute? And isn't Tim Buckley American to boot? Chewbacca1010 19:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ctrl Alt Delete? 

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message: The trivia section ends with a history of Christie Pitts Riots of 1933. Anyone know why this is placed here?--68.40.90.204 (talk) 18:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While not uninteresting, it has no clear relation to the rest of the article -- and even if it did, is full of uncited and NPOV material.  I've deleted it.  172.136.135.80 (talk) 19:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christie Pitts 

message: Someone keeps posting an unsourced list of Tragically Hip singles.  The problem isn't so much with the list as with the chart positions -- almost all the singles on this unsourced list mysteriously charted in the Canadian top 10.  This list is wildly inaccurate, as a visit to the RPM charts site will easily verify.  If I see this list posted again, I will remove it without hestiation (unless, of course, you can provide a verifiable source for it.)  172.130.82.241 (talk) 00:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi 172.130.62.241 -- I've looked at the list and agree.  While your list seems to be missing some singles (especially post-2000), the chart positions that are posted on the other list are completedly unsourced -- not to mention unlikely.  Will whomever keeps posting this PLEASE explain their sources?  Otherwise, your work will continue to be vapourised...  Rudyardk (talk) 18:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced chart info

message: The summary at the bottom is missing their first album "the tragically hip", probably because it was self-titled. Sorry I don't know how to add it. Canking (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing album 

message: Per  WP:N / WP:V / WP:BLP the members of the band who are non-notable save for their participation in The Tragically Hip should be merged to this article. The articles have all be long tagged as needing sources (up to 3+ years) and should not be left as stand alone, unsourced stubs about living people per numerous policies. Active Banana (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Paul Langlois has produced a number of other artists, I'd have to find sources but perhaps his is fine as a separate, but the others I don't think so.Max.inglis (talk) 14:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave separate.  When searching Wikipedia for a person, I expect to be pointed to a person page, not a band.  Facts such as birthdays, origin, etc may not be relevant in the band page, but in the person bio they are.  In this case, I know he was in the band, I am looking for more bio info.  Last, merging may create a lot of unnecessary editing out there.Argolin (talk) 19:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

text: I dont think its possible to do them all...as mentioned above some have done substantial work outside the band, however i dont see merit in them being separate until the articles cover more info!!!...Moxy (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: @Argolin - until there are third party sources covering Date of Birth, origin etc., there will be nothing in the article about the individual anyway. Active Banana (talk) 21:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

text: We require actual sources to justify a separate article. A person isn't entitled to their own Wikipedia article just because they were part of a notable band, if we don't have any real sources that we can add to the article which are specifically about them. Granted, the band is famous enough that its individual members are likely to be independently notable — but what would make them notable is the actual presence of sources in the article, not just the fact that they're in the band. Bearcat (talk) 23:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I completed this task, and merge/redirect is done for articles on four of the band members as was suggested in the main article. There was actually very little to merge given the lack of sources, and that is the big issue. The fact that the four members did some things outside the band can be added to the history at the band article. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 03:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge members who are non - notable outside of their participation in the band per [[WP:N]] / [[WP:V]] / [[WP:BLP]] 

message: Does anyone else think this could benefit from some organization? It seems to be mostly a random blast of factoids about the hip. Max.inglis (talk) 14:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please do. Active Banana (talk) 16:35, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

text: For the record, I'm downrating this from B-class to C-class. I don't know whether we were applying looser standards in 2007 when this was first rated, or whether the original rater was just being overly generous and proprietary — but there's just no way that this article, as it stands right now, is even close to meeting B-class standards. For comparison, the article that's listed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment as canonical B-class is Captain Beefheart — just take one look at that and you'll see why this isn't up to that level. You don't even need to read it in depth — just look at it. Bearcat (talk) 23:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm mid-rewrite on this article, please excuse the mess while I do so. Max.inglis (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the re-write is done for now, more sourcing and info could be added to the earlier sections, but I don't have time right now. If another editor chooses to take up the mantle, please try to keep material concise and sourced, since the previous iteration of the article was just a random blast of factoids, and I think we should try to avoid having it revert to that. I wonder if we can review the stub and classifications now. Max.inglis (talk) 17:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-write?

message: The following claim has been challenged and the link to the source is broken. If someone is able to verify the claim, please feel free to return it to the article (Note that we do not place challenged materials within articles under POV section titles such as "Totally Unrelevant Crap") Active Banana (talk) 14:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry the "totally unrelevant crap" thing came out when I was creating sections and moving stuff around at the beginning. It wasn't meant to be POV, I had meant to remove it during the re-write, and the things there didn't seem relevant to the article. Max.inglis (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I hadn't checked the link to see if it actually verified the claims when I put it in the lead. I had moved it because if true/verifiable it would have seemed to fit the criteria of WP:LEAD: showing why the subject of the article was notable - having multiple charting singles. Active Banana (talk) 21:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

text: In case you're still looking, "Love Is a First" reached #22 on the Billboard Canadian Hot 100 and "Courage" reached #16 on Modern Rock Tracks (which is, if I understand correctly, a US chart). "New Orleans is Sinking" did not hit Billboard charts, but peaked at #70 on the RPM Top 100 Singles (precursor to Canadian Singles Chart) and #1 on RPM's Canadian Content chart. "Poets" also did not make Billboard charts, but reached at #4 on the RPM Top 100 and #1 on RPM's alternative chart; references forthcoming. -M.Nelson (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

text: *PS, Billboard didn't run a Canadian singles chart until 2007---the statement discussed may be referring to the RPM (magazine) charts (at least one of which was eventually replaced by Billboard). -M.Nelson (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I know this is a kind of old discussion, but the reason the Billboard link is broken is because Billboard redesigned their site and their internal links. Allmusic, however, has the information here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gifixqr5ldse~T51.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  material has been challenged - unable to verify via current link 

message: The introduction could use a few added details, like a list of 2-3 of their most famous songs.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.22.7 (talk) 16:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: I would like to call to question the origin of the band's name.  The article claims it came from Elephant Parts.  I have found a copy of the movie and saw no reference to the supposed scene with the name in it.  I was told by my music history professor, who holds various degrees including a doctorate in musicology, that the name comes from a line in This is Spinal Tap where someone mentions an old folks home for retired musicians called the Home for the Tragically Hip.  After doing my own research on this, I could not verify either claim.  I inquired about this with my professor and he says that Gord Downie told him this way back (but he has never verified himself).  I am continuing to look for evidence of the origin but others should look into it as well.  The band does not have a good history or biography anywhere.  One source (Hip FAQ on HighwayGirl) gives the Elephant Parts explanation and credits Tales from the Hip, Winter 94-95 No.1 as its source.  I have been unable to find this document.
Unless this can be verified I think that it needs to be removed or made clear that it is a theory or rumor.Mattkickbox (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Name 

message: I went to Queen's University in Kingston and graduated in 1979.  I remember going to Hip concerts during that period - in what sense did they start in 1983?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.65 (talk) 22:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starting date of the Tragically Hip 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I've created a new page in Esperanto about The Hip:
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tragically_Hip
Can you tell me how to link up this Esperanto page to the 8 languages in which the page is now available? (German, Spanish, French, Italian, Dutch, Russian, Simple English and Swedish.)
Espgreg (talk) 20:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. It's a WikiData matter that was slightly more complicated in this instance than it usually should be, for reasons I'm not too clear on, but it's linked now. Bearcat (talk) 20:50, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tragically Hip in Esperanto 

message: Perhaps  this billboard article may help.--Moxy 🍁 20:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Although that dispute has been resolved with the introduction of a reliable source that confirms those numbers, that Billboard article could prove to be useful for similar statistics.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 15:19, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit war over numbers 

message: I’m just going to state flatly that this article is a terrible shambles of unsourced fan fanaticism. And that’s coming from a rabid TH fan of over 40 years. There are so many unsourced claims made in this “article” to be beyond embarrassing. Somebody needs to fix this because this “article” does utterly NO justice to the memory of Gord Downie. 73.61.18.221 (talk) 05:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  What is your source that Up to Here, a 43 minute long recording is an EP and not a full length album? Are you perhaps conflating it with the 1987 self-titled release, which is an EP? Multiple reliable sources, including the CBC, Global News, The Chicago Tribune, and Exclaim!, describe Up to Here as their debut album, not as an EP.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 23:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shambles of an article!