Talk:Mike Barnicle

message: i am removing the howie carr discussion, this is not a widely documented or relevant aspect of barnicle's career. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by scranton (talk • contribs) .
:I disagree, a fued between two famous Boston pundits seems notable to me. Gamaliel 21:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second Gamaliels opinion. Furthermore, even if it is not particularly important it still belongs here, we do seek to amass all knowledge and all :) -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 05:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: ===Quotation from radio show===
[Another user left this on my talk page; I've added quotation coding and moved it to the talk page of this article on Mike Barnicle, where it seems more appropriate.  It is a subject for general discussion relating to this article. --NYScholar 16:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: [Another user left this on my talk page; I've added quotation coding and moved it to the talk page of this article on Mike Barnicle, where it seems more appropriate.  It is a subject for general discussion relating to this article. --NYScholar 16:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotation from radio show

message: ===Memorable quotation===
Barnicle stated "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far, all terrorists have been Moslems" on his radio show Thursday August 10, 2006.
I removed this unsourced section entirely.  There is a feature for compiling quotations listed as "sourced" in boxes in Wikipedia articles.  This one quotation, which is perhaps more aptly labeled "controversial" instead of "memorable," seems presented in a non-neutral (approving) way, and yet there is really no source given to substantiate and to verify that Barnicle said it or what the context is or what the reaction(s) to it may have been or be. --NYScholar 09:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Re 'history of scandals', the content could use an overview by objective editors for the possibility of WP:BLP violations; this  hardly qualifies as neutral. I've started a discussion at the BLP noticeboard. Also, it's advisable not to presume that an editor is affiliated with the subject unless the connection is pretty clear. 76.248.149.47  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.149.47 (talk) 18:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced quotation removed

message: Barnicle stated "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far, all terrorists have been Moslems" on his radio show Thursday August 10, 2006.
I removed this unsourced section entirely.  There is a feature for compiling quotations listed as "sourced" in boxes in Wikipedia articles.  This one quotation, which is perhaps more aptly labeled "controversial" instead of "memorable," seems presented in a non-neutral (approving) way, and yet there is really no source given to substantiate and to verify that Barnicle said it or what the context is or what the reaction(s) to it may have been or be. --NYScholar 09:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Memorable quotation

message: Does this warrant a mention along with the today show and MSNBC reference  ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosand (talk • contribs) 21:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Re 'history of scandals', the content could use an overview by objective editors for the possibility of WP:BLP violations; this  hardly qualifies as neutral. I've started a discussion at the BLP noticeboard. Also, it's advisable not to presume that an editor is affiliated with the subject unless the connection is pretty clear. 76.248.149.47  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.149.47 (talk) 18:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frequently seen on "Morning Joe" ?

message: Needs a little more than where he was born. Where did he grow up? Who were his parents? Any formative experiences? 
98.245.148.9 (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs an Early Life Section

message: I don't think this sentence belongs in the lead and I have a problem with the wording: After a long career at the Boston Globe that ended with his dismissal for lying and plagiarizing, 
*The Boston Globe says: "asked for his resignation", "Barnicle submitted his resignation", "possible fabrications" 
*The NY Times says: "Mike Barnicle, who resigned as a columnist for The Boston Globe in 1998 after failing to credit the comedian George Carlin as the source for a series of jokes in one column and being unable to verify the identities of two cancer patients in another"
Neither source uses the terms "lying" or "plagiarizing".
*-- — Keithbob • Talk •  18:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed--I saw the same and removed the sentence. It's a portent of further tone problems in the article, which I've brought up at the BLP noticeboard. 76.248.149.47  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.149.47 (talk) 18:20, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: BLP Issues in the lead

message: This article is being discussed at the BLP noticeboard. Please feel free to participate by clicking here.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  18:48, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And just as obviously, the above evidences the issue of neutrality, and why discussion was necessary. In Boston...he is best known for three things, is original research, unless you can find a source for that. Even then, it's still parochial. "Resigned from The Boston Globe last summer amid charges of plagiarism and slipshod reporting" is, legally, technically, and literally not the same as "years of making stories up." To belabor the obvious, Blair was not nearly as well known nor honored as a journalist, and his scandal put him on the map. As it stands, a section is devoted to the controversies. Content can always be fleshed out and well sourced, if it's not unduly weighted. A lot of what you added previously, including links to court documents, was unacceptable, the sort of stuff that raises serious WP:BLP flags, and strongly suggests anything but neutrality. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 20:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that sources indicate this was an issue prior to the two instances in question, "Boston Globe controversy" could begin with 'Following charges of plagiarism and sloppy reporting, in 1998 Barnicle resigned from the Boston Globe amid a controversy over two columns, written three years apart.' 76.248.149.47 (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Further thoughts: Barnicle's response at the top of this transcript re: the charges ; this section at the Doris Kearns Goodwin article may be helpful (no mention of this in article's lede) ; and finally, since Mr. Barnicle has recognizable political positions, he is more likely to draw fire from those who disagree, often strenuously, so that must be taken into account when assessing sources. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 23:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll look at the sources when I have time and comment.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  18:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure--I don't see a problem, and certainly no 'whitewash', with the current text. I'm adding the above comments for further context, with the assumption that over time more editors will view and discuss this. The Goodwin piece appears to handle controversy involving a prominent writer with measure and neutrality. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 18:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at BLPN

message: "Barnicle has interviewed all the candidates in the current run for the White House"
Last time I checked the FEC web site there were nearly 2,000 such candidates, so I have to doubt this claim. Thomas L. Knapp (talk) 12:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourced, But Unsubstantiated and Unlikely, Claim

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