Talk:Tory Belleci

message: This article was listed for deletion on 27 May, 2005. The discussion was closed with the result of no consensus.  This article will not be deleted.  You can view the discussion, which is no longer live: Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Tory Belleci. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:29, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Closed deletion listing

message: I'm being bold and redirecting. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:29, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tory is also a well known and popular special effects artist who was well known at least in the circle. He made appearances on television and in magazines during his tenure working for Industrial Light and Magic, where he worked on Star Wars: Episode One. He deserves his own page.--The reverend 02:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article in not currently up for deletion. All the stuff regarding deleting/redirecting this article occurred a year ago. Look at the dates. Why won't people use their eyes?--Drat (Talk) 03:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize, but the argument had not been presented in the talk page, and was worth note.--The reverend 01:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Be bold|Being bold]]

message: The reason I removed the Trivia item was because the fact that Tory (I wasn't thinking when I wrote Grant) plays Counterstrike is unimportant. On top of that, it was speculatory anyway.--Drat (Talk) 11:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Counterstrike

message: Salvatore Belleci → Tory Belleci — Its his far more common nickname. wikipedia naming policy —DAVID CAT 23:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Why don't we include the irrelevant fact of whether or not he believes in God or not, just like we've done for some reason on Adam and Jamie's pages?? --Promus Kaa 15:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm posting this late, but if one is dissatisfied with a decision for an article, do comment on that article's talk page instead of spreading the fallout elsewhere. Also, do push your actual opinion there instead of acting like this. These kind of comments won't achieve much good. — Northgrove 03:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: this article in his hometown newspaper confirms tory as a 'devout christian'. --Kaini (talk) 00:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Beliefs 

message: His nickname is spelled Tori not "Tory" like on here. 71.3.176.254 15:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's Tory. You may be thinking of the furry fandom member: wikifur:Tori Belliachi 81.153.111.37 (talk) 03:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

text: As ALL of the sources spell it "Tory", I've restored that spelling. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  He can frequently be seen wearing garments marked "Tory" on the show.137.205.100.185 (talk) 08:50, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Spelling 

message: I have restored my edits over an IP's mostly unexplained objections. Here are the details the IP is objecting to:
1) I have removed the birth name "Salvatore Paul Belleci". This is the only change the IP explained ("This is idiotic, as his name CLEARLY is Salvatore Paul Belleci, and I did some research and found there is only one person with that name in the world, let alone california"). The source used demonstrates clearly that someone named "BELLECI, SALVATOR P" was born 10/30/1970 in Monterey (where "Paul" came from is unclear). We do not know that "Tory Belleci" was named "Salvator Belleci" at birth. Many celebrities use stage names. It is not at all unusual for people to use their middle name in place of their first or nicknames that are completely unrelated to their birth names.
2) I have removed the birth date using the same source. If, somehow, we managed to otherwise determine that his birth name was "Salvatore Paul Belleci" (which we have not), we would not have an indication that this particular "BELLECI, SALVATOR P" is the same person, even if the IP searched the birth records of the entire world since the beginning of recorded time.
3) I have removed the conflicting unsourced claims that he is an atheist and a Christian. Enough said.
4) I have removed "He attended San Francisco State University." from the lede. This is mentioned later and is not a significant aspect of his notability. As such, it does not need to be in the lede section. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As there has been no discussion to the contrary, I have restored my version. If reverted without sourcing, I will remove any/all unsourced claims that he is an atheist, devout Christian, Orthodox Jew, apathetic agnostic, etc. as a WP:BLP issue. Any other issues reverted without discussion/sourcing I will let stand for a day or so, then revert with escalating warnings, as needed. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No discussion. I'm changing it back. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

text: New additions: IMDb is not a reliable source for biographical info. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

text: His verified twitter account has a post on Oct. 30, 2012 mentioning it's his birthday:  – Connormah (talk) 02:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The October 30th tweet thanking people for the birthday wishes tells us his birthday is on or a bit before October 30th and no hint of a year. Not much help. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes 

message: The "Early work" section of this page replicates almost verbatim the text on Tory's own website's "Bio" page. Should this section be re-written and paraphrased? Metheglyn (talk) 00:37, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. That is waaaay too close. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early work taken from official bio?