Talk:Cable tie

message: What is the name of the tie that is a string of round beads?  When adjusting, lift the string to a wide part of the eye so the beads pass through easily.  When in position, let a bead relax into the narrow part of the eye so the bead catches and no longer slips.  Not as strong and usually not as tight as these flat cable ties, but more easily reusable.  Jim.henderson 17:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It can be known as Ball Chain or Bead Chain. I'm sure there are other names for it as well, but most people know what you are talking about when you mention either. PMHauge (talk) 13:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: String of pearls

message: What is the significance of KSS in the further information section? It links to a disambiguation page that doesn't seem to have any particularly obvious connections.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.86.173.34 (talk) 18:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a spam article, now gone. SpinningSpark 09:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: KSS?

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replies: text: The archived page redirects to a page asking to update Adobe Flash. Following the "click to continue" link results in "This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.". Sunmist3 (talk) 23:08, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: Zip ties can be used for many things thinking outside the box. Holding things in place while allowing your hands to work freely. Harrythewoodman (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: Dear SpinningSpark (and other fellow Wikipedians),
If you care to read the cited scientific publications, you will find that the popular use of cable ties within surgery is indeed a problem; the formation of chronic granulomas is sadly well described. This is important to inform others about; at the end of the day, it is an animal welfare issue. 
You wrote “Your original contribution gave the impression that these devices were in use for human surgery at a time when you were still conducting animal trials. There is still no independent sources assessing the product or showing that it is in general use.”
I disagree; again, if you check the cited and linked scientific publications, you will see those are animal studies, very relevant to the veterinary community. However, a different wording may be preferred? 
We aim not to self-cite, but this is sometimes inventible; our research group is the only one on the globe that have made those self-locking loops in resorbable material. 
Several research groups have tested the implants in an independent manner; please see the relevant publications.
 
I understand the provided information may be interpreted as “promotional material”; however, the resorbable self-locking loops of our research are NOT commercially available, which is easily investigated. This is instead research and development, an important aspect for readers seeking information. Conflict of interest is clearly and openly declared in the publications. 
Judging from the e-mails that I continuously get from surgeons (veterinarians and MDs), I strongly believe the information provided on the Wikipedia page is highly relevant.
I will update the suggested citations / references, I hope it will be acceptable. 
Please do not delete the provided information.
Thank you 
O.V.H., DVM, MRCVS, PhD  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Odd Höglund (SLU) (talk • contribs) 16:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No, please don't do that.  The accepted procedure for editors with a conflict of interest is to make a suggestion on the talk page and then wait to see if another editor is willing to take it up.  You can use the  template to get attention if you wish. "Conflict of interest is clearly and openly declared in the publications" shows that you have not read WP:COI which I linked on your talkpage.  That is not an acceptable way of declaring COI.  That should be done explicitly on the article talk page, the edit summary, or both.  We really don't care how many letters and e-mails you get, WP:MEDRS, also linked on your talk page, requires publihsed sources that are independent of your research group. "...our research group is the only one on the globe that have made those..." is a big hint to me that this is WP:TOOSOON for Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 22:13, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As a point of fact, MEDRS's interest in Wikipedia:Independent sources is pretty much limited to questions of notability.  The article overall should be mostly based on independent sources, but the fact is that if we required independent sources, we could not write about anything scientific or medical about experimental drug at all, nor for a large number of newly approved ones.  The important thing with non-independent (but otherwise acceptable) sources is to remember that when you're writing, so that you don't overstate the situation. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

text: Articles are about their subjects. These medical devices aren't cable ties. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If "cable tie" is defined as a method of securing cables, then you're probably right, but then a whole lot of other things are also within the scope of this article, like Velcro straps.  OTOH, these are "zip ties", and if you take the definition according to the lead – "a type of fastener, for holding items together" and "a flexible tape section with teeth that engage with a pawl in the head to form a ratchet so that as the free end of the tape section is pulled the cable tie tightens and does not come undone", then these do seem to be the same thing, just made with a different material.  I'd bet that it could be used for securing cables, too, if you didn't mind paying so much when a nylon one would work just as well.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Surgery

message: Within research, there are self-locking loops, based on the construction of the traditional cable tie, designed for surgery. The device is intended for ligation purposes, by compressing tissue hemorrhage is prevented. The same material is used as in surgical suture (resorbable polymers), therefore the implant can be left in the body where after the material is resorbed by the tissue.
Traditional cable ties, due to their non-resorbable material, may not be left in the body permanently due to the risk of development of chronic granulomas.
: Articles are about their subjects. These medical devices aren't cable ties. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If "cable tie" is defined as a method of securing cables, then you're probably right, but then a whole lot of other things are also within the scope of this article, like Velcro straps.  OTOH, these are "zip ties", and if you take the definition according to the lead – "a type of fastener, for holding items together" and "a flexible tape section with teeth that engage with a pawl in the head to form a ratchet so that as the free end of the tape section is pulled the cable tie tightens and does not come undone", then these do seem to be the same thing, just made with a different material.  I'd bet that it could be used for securing cables, too, if you didn't mind paying so much when a nylon one would work just as well.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: The proposed text

message: I just heard a Canadian guy refer to them as "zap straps" on YouTube. Maybe it should be added to the list of synonyms? --87.70.11.192 (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This article used to have a long list of synonyms which is periodically pruned.  It makes the beginning of the article unreadable if there are too many bracketed asides in the first line. Imo, only the most common names should be given.  Things like this tend to get a lot of local jargony names.  There is always Wiktionary if you want a long list of synonyms. SpinningSpark 13:12, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zap Strap