Talk:Quietly Confident Quartet

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:The members of the quartet were between 17 and 23 years of age. Only two members of the quartet had prior Olympic experience. For these type of events, countries are usually represented by athletes who have competed in multiple Olympic Games. Perhaps this should have been mentioned in the article. Could you explain why you felt "quite a young and inexperienced quartet" was advocating a point a view? The only problem I see is with the word "quite", but it isn't something that reeks of POV. Also, could you provide other examples of how the prose is unsuitable for an encyclopedia? Nishkid64 (talk) 00:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right; upon a second read I think I held this article to too high a standard for a GA. However, I would like to see at least one image before this is promoted. It's highly unusual to have pictureless GAs; the only exception that I know of was Nevada-tan because of extenuating circumstances. Anyways, shouldn't be too hard. Good luck! --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 20:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to continue pointing out specific or general prose concerns, I'll look at them. I fixed the last one. Although it may seem as though I am pumping up the swimmers - I guess this is from the part where I was talking about how young and unexperienced they were and how they were unlikely to be win, I did this to show how large a surprise it was that they did win. It was also pointed out the US was much faster, except that they boycotted, so I don't think it could be said that hte article was glorifying them. The article also points out that the swimmers had disciplinary problems, which is also not a positive thing. As for the image, there are none that would be free, as these people are active 25 years ago and no free ones could be made as they are no longer public images. I also note that the only picture of them in the books, is of them standing on the podium (same image repeated). Unfortunately I can't see how a case for FU can be made in this case, since the "significantly enhances the understanding" is not the case, since it only tells us what their face looks like and such depictions are discouraged in teh image policy. If it was an iconic picture of a self-immolation like thich Quang Duc, that would be fine. Although in FAC, an article is a priority, in GAC, if there isn't a free pic of a recent person, then that is usually ignored. eg, see the list on  and his userpage, particularly the recent sportspeople, or just look in the sports section of WP:GA and look at the modern bios where copyright photos are yet to go PD. A lot do not have pictures, especially the guys who have retired so we can't take a pic, but aren't old enough for PD. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 08:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right and have made some excellent points. I'm passing the article despite the lack of images because of 1) your arguments and 2) overlooking the images (which does seem relatively minor in this particular case), the article is indeed GA-worthy. Congratulations on another GA! --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 16:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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