Talk:San Francisco Municipal Railway fleet

message: Prepare for a large information update those routes. Coming in the future  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BusriderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muni Routes that uses 40ft and 30 ft [XD40 Buses] 

message: It seems that I accidently deleted one of the images from this article--it was the second image under the 'historical fleet' section. I meant to move it to the 'diesel' section, but the copy and paste function in my computer grayed out on me. Feel free to add that image back. --Kannie | talk 22:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: According to this, are all the years the vehicles start service correct or incorrect? Because of this edit, it may make sense that the Neoplan 40-footers are from 2000-01, and the 60-ft ones are from 2002-03. The Good Guy (talk) 02:17, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Year In Service According to the SFMTA Fleet Management Plan? 

message: I'm not an administrator, but this page needs to be protected indefinitely because too much false info has been put into this page. I reverted them though. Blame Twinkle. The Good Guy (talk) 00:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If anything, it should be split between the buses and streetcars/cable cars. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  01:42, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That is another helpful option. The Good Guy (talk) 01:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs to be protected. 

message: , 5701-5884 are 184 units; Muni ordered 185, so these are 5701-5885.The Good Guy (talk) 03:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  SF Muni XT40 Fleet Numbers 

message: , can you please discuss why the Neoplan AN460s have retired with source from Detroit Diesel 6V92TA from CPTDB? If you don't have it, then you're in trouble. The Good Guy (talk) 05:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neoplan AN460 Retirement 

message: Can you tell me why each of every bus has retired and been replaced if necessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs) 5 May 2021 (UTC)
: Typically buses are retired at or near their mandated age. The Federal Transit Administration provides subsidies for transit agencies making transportation purchases that qualify under "Buy America", which means vehicles that undergo final assembly in the US with a preponderance of American-sourced components (axles, wheels, engines, transmissions, etc.). In return, the FTA mandates a service life of a subsidized vehicle. For most heavy-duty transit buses, that life is 12 years. For rail vehicles, it's around 25 years. FTA will occasionally reduce the life to allow the use of subsidies if the vehicle proves to be problematic (e.g. the Boeing/Vertol US SLRV) but most transit agencies plan their procurements around the mandated service lives. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 17:02, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  To clarify one point, I'm sure  meant the FTA mandates a minimum service life (of 12 years for heavy-duty transit buses).  In some large transit systems, such as those in Portland and Seattle, buses are commonly kept in service for about 18 years, and buses are very rarely retired an age of less than 15 years. For trolleybuses, the lifespan is typically around 20–25 years. But I realize this talk page is only about Muni. SJ Morg (talk) 09:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bus retirement reasons?