Talk:Broken heart

message: This page needs references, or site where this information was aquired from. Otherwise it's just someone's opinion. Thanx :) Lordofchaosiori 17:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This article should really be called Heartbreak. Does anyone have any objections? Satchfan 08:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heartbreak 

message: this article sounds like it's all just 100% opinion.  one of the worst articles i've read on wikipedia.
I randomly wandered into this page after a painful break up.  Thanks for the commiseration Wikipedia. --Doom Music 20:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest that it be redirected to Broken heart (disambiguation), which should include pointers to Grief as well as Stress cardiomyopathy.  Any useful content here could be merged into Grief, which is a much more encyclopedic treatment of the topic.  Alternatively, the disambiguation page could be moved to Broken heart, although that would require admin intervention.   -- Visviva 03:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - I support your proposal, otherwise this article should just be re-written.Code E 20:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  all opinion 

message: Whats wrong with this article? It's obvious that its an emotion felt by alot of people as real as emotions like 'I feel hungry' and anger. Just because you havent felt it doesnt mean its not true. I'm sure alot of people havent felt shit like anger and other emotions like that, but you do not dispute their existance. 140.159.2.31 01:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is alright 

message: Many animals are reported to not suffer from any feelings of heartache or loss in that general emotional way. Yet it is widely reported and known that many humans do. I believe that this has something to do with our diminished sex drive when compared to animals. Animals basically live their lives to pass on their seed, however humans, while subconsciously living their lives for the same reason, rely on another thing to justify this sex drive. It takes many many years for a child to be able to stand no its own two feet and make its own mark in the world, and I believe that the need to love and be loved by the one who we want to pass our seed onto is because we need to trust the other person enough to stay with us while we raise the child. Thus, the feeling of love can be explained as evolution, where we want our children, our genetics to be safe with two parents. This way, we can watch over our physical exertion and raise it in the manner we see fit. I'm a 20 year old from Australia named Leigh Barlow and this is all very crude and rudimentary theories, but I hope I have shed some philosophical light on the subject of love and heart ache. 140.159.2.31 02:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animals/humans 

message: I removed the prod.  I was thinking of just making this a redirect to suicide instead, but I think the concept really does deserve fuller treatment.  If it is put an AfD please consider whether a redirect to a subsection of suicide covering this topic is believed appropriate.--BirgitteSB 17:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed prod 

message: This is a notable and unique experience in the sum of humanity, both in life and literature. The topic might only seem unworthy of seperation because it has hardly been covered in this article.
*AfD votes should be directed to the AfD page. --N Shar 04:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep 

message: I removed the reference to Johnny Cash, italicized as follows: 
However, even in reality people die from what appears to be a broken heart. In 2003, Johnny Cash died within three months of his wife June Carter Cash. Some speculated that Cash died of a broken heart, but that was not the case. Broken heart syndrome is commonly blamed for the death of a person whose spouse is already deceased, when in fact it is sudden emotional stress that can be caused by a traumatic breakup, the death of a loved one, or even the shock of a surprise party.
Needs to be clarified. What did he die from, if not a broken heart? Who are "some"? How does this relate?? Kaelynn 23:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Cash 

message: This article opens with "A broken heart (or heartbreak) is a common metaphor used to describe the intense psychological pain", but the article on psychological pain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pain) states "Psychological pain is distinct and separate from emotional pain, which is 'heartache', or heart break"; these are clearly contradictory statements. Someone should change one of the two articles; I'd do it, but I'm a Wikipedia editing newbie and find my changes are generally rejected so I'll leave it to the experts. Vorpal22 (talk) 11:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major contradiction with psychological pain article 

message: I find this section really out of place:
"In conclusion, I would like to say that we are conditioned to feelings of self through others. Not a huge philosophical or psychological breakthrough, but it works. No longer should we ask the question of why, but we should look within ourselves and find out how. How did I get this way, what exists? I have learned that attachment is a deadly weapon, a curse, a social conditioning of the “happy” people. The blundered and burdened are cursed because of them. As I look back at my freshly lit new cigarette I find happiness in the death of it because I control how many drugs I take, I control the allotted time it takes for that cigarette to die. I can put it out, and save it for later, or I can take heavy drags, enjoy, and watch it die fast. Much like human life, it must die sometime. I am the maker of my world. I am the perceiver to my reality. I make my feelings come true and I give them fallacy. No longer will I pine over that girl, whether she is “perfect” or not. I will be a rock, stay strong, and paint my own world as time allows(Art Olefir). This is a an example of a philosophical view. Mainly Nagarjuna, who said that everything is made up of nothing. It is all a web of relations that we, as human beings conjure up."
lol wut?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.1.161.36 (talk) 19:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: The one external link on this article doesn't seem to be relevant...I think perhaps it should be deleted, but I'm just voicing an opinion. Robert Skyhawk (Talk) 03:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd External Link 

message: Anything else think the 'Symptoms' part of the article should be renamed to 'Effects of a Heartbreak', or something?
I doubt death could be described as symptom of a broken heart, and most of those things seem to be indeed effects rather than 'symptoms' which is a medical term, and, unfortunately, I doubt a 'broken heart' is universally recognised by medical figures.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gajakk (talk • contribs) 00:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Symptoms'? 

message: Has there been any studies on what happens during a broken heart, in the brain?
I read in the Kissing article that scientists noticed an event in the brain in relation to lovers/affection which is similar to the effects of cocaine.
It would be interesting to know what chemicals are triggered during heart-break. 
I have a broken heart right now, so it would be a good time to study it. 50.47.140.236 (talk) 13:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a bit more on neurology now, but not much on endocrinology (chemicals), if there is anyone finds further research or discussions.  We shouldn't lose the cultural and literary understandings of heartbreak either though, and it would be good to cross-reference to Grief more--Cedderstk 13:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Also for possible inclusion there is an overlap with psychological/psychiatric themes.  Not to say that the answer to Jimmy Ruffin's question is "they all end up on Prozac", but DSM-IV says (p 324) "in some cultures, depression may be experienced largely in somatic terms rather than with sadness or guilt. Complaints of... problems of the heart (in Middle Eastern cultures) or of being 'heartbroken' (among the Hopi) may express depressive experiences".  Here's a PR about research linking "somatic" complaints in depression with rejection sensitivity: <http://www.medwire-news.md/56/79457/Depression/Social_rejection_linked_with_pain_in_depressed_patients_.html>  According to Kellner (1973), 46% of "neurotics" report chest pain. Even more tangentially, it seems the anterior cingulate cortex is supposed to atrophy in depression, but surgically removing it is regarded as an effective treatment for depression and pain . --Cedderstk 19:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  events in the brain 

message: I just finished my GA-improvement of the article in my sandbox and have implemented the whole lot. Going to nominate it for GA-status; please jump in with thoughts for improvements during the review. Cheers, Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 17:47, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it sweetie 47.16.161.225 (talk) 06:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Why thank you. :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 15:05, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  18 March 2015 

message: Abandonment (emotional) contains concepts from The Journey from Abandonment to Healing ISBN-10: 0425172287 which would help fill in some weaknesses in this article. We should also bring in work from Rutgers University anthropologist Helen Fisher, who did brain scans on people who had just experienced romantic rejection. The Journey from Abandonment to Healing work and Helen Fisher's work is good, but probably not substantial enough at this point to warrant stand alone articles. Wiki-psyc (talk) 22:40, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Abandonment (emotional)]] 

message: I've moved the following her from the reference section. I'm not sure where it should be, but it shouldn't be there.
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thread_title:  Text removed from the References section