Talk:Bleach (manga)/Archive 1

message: Wondering if the article was restarted from scratch recently (possibly due to a copyright violation), because the article looks really short.
--69.214.232.105 02:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I think that it's always been this short. Jeltz talk 12:09, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page nuked? 

message: Under Shinigami, the Captains and Vice-Captains at the beginning of the series are listed, but wasn't Rukia Vice-Captain for Squad 6 under her brother at that point, and only lost that position when she apparantly went 'rogue' due to losing her powers when she transferred them to Ichigo? Nezu Chiza 21:52, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
*Nope, she was a member of the 13th squad under Ukitate. My guess is that she was a seated member but I don't believe that she was the vice-captain of the squad. We don't know what position she had. Jeltz talk 22:49, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, Rukia was never a vice-captain. I don't believe she was even a seated officer. At one point of the manga, there was a flashback and it showed Rukia entering the 13th division and she was coming home. Byakuya asks her "What seat did you make?" and she said she wasn't strong enough to become a seated officer. Of course, this is probably a bit before she met Ichigo, and she MAY have been able to become a seated officer during that time, but it is best to assume that she doesn't hold a officer position. -- Hobbeslover 19:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I still believe that she was a seated officer but probably the lowest one. We have seen her on a mission (when Kaien was killed) together with the Captain and the Vice Captain. Why would someone that isn't seated get that honour? I believe that she was something like a 6th seat if such exist. Jeltz talk 10:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that the seated ranks go down to at least 20, (Tōshimori Umesada, 20th seat in the 9th division) I don't think that 6 would be a particularily low rank. --Tjstrf 04:47, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinigami 

message: I'm not sure that the info about his father being a Shinigami should be there. The rest of that section has very little spoilers, and NOTHING that isn't in the first few episodes of the anime and chapters of the manga. The bit about his father is a massive spoiler from FAR into the series. Nezu Chiza 23:22, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
:I concur that this revelation shouldn't be on the page. This is WAY ahead of the beat the rest of the page carries and it kind of ruins the fun of seeing it for yourself (for casual Bleach-heads who may not have read that far, or may only watch the anime). It's not needed and it really spoils everything. Michuru 00:52, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I read about how his dad destroyed Grand Fisher "With just one punch". I figured somehow his love for his wife or something powered him to super strong attack or something. Or that ichigo's energy rubed off on him. Then, when I read the manga when he fought Grand Fisher and he was actually a Shinigam I was like "WTF?!!??" That was a pretty big suprsie to me. Thanks for not spoiling to much for me whoever it was... Pompadour Samurai 06:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ichigo's Family 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach_%28manga%29#Quincy_artifacts
That three sentences used to be three paragraphs. Does wikipedia even give a fuck that people are actually lowering the informative nature of their articles...
:Used to be two paragraphs, one of which was further into the series than the rest of the article, hence why it was trimmed. Once the anime(which more people are exposed to) gets to the point where it's not a major plot spoiler, feel free to add the info back. On a side note, please don't curse on the talk page. There's no need for it at all. Also, sign your comments per the Wikipedia rules. Thank you. Nezu Chiza 04:14, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
::The first paragraph was not cut due to spoilers, but rather that it was very confusingly written and contained off-topic information. It was essentially talking about things Ishida did, not the artifacts themselves. If you want to go and expand it again, feel welcome to do so, that's what wikis are for. --Tjstrf 04:56, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  i hate this... 

message: I think we should remove a lot of info on this page, such as the gotei listings (already on the characters page), as well as specific info like clothes 'modification', which could also go in the description of each character. Does anyone disagree? -- Ynhockey 09:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: We may want to consider creating pages on Shinigami (Bleach) and Soul Society at this point, then.--Mitsukai 15:46, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cutting down page size 

message: Instead of having seperate pages for Hollows, Plusses, Anraku, and Vaizards, perhaps all the info could be consolidated on a single page?--Chris F.
I disagree. IMO, the more pages the better. No one likes to read a huge page if they only want to find out what Bleach is, and don't care about details. Also, no one wants to search a huge page for a less important detail like how the hollows fight. Modularization also makes it easier for editors like ourselves. In the case of vizards, hollows and arankaru, we don't know much about them yet, but some of the recent manga chapters expand on them. I'm sure the more small details we get, the less full descriptions are appropriate for the main Bleach page. Also, why don't you register an account? -- Ynhockey 00:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many pages?