Talk:List of cities with more than one commercial airport

message: Have to agree.  This article should really be about cities with more than one airport where they have either >100,000 passengers/year, or serve aircraft of 30+ seats on reg schedule service.  Saying Victoria has 4 airports is insane. 1(YYJ) yes, 2 (YWH) perhaps, but the other two are a big stretch.  Same applies to Vancouver.
The criteria defined for a city with more than one airport is a bit too broad.  One could argue that Greater Vancouver, BC has three airports; Vancouver International, Pitt Meadows, and Boundary Bay. I propose to redefine the article to list only cities that have regularly scheduled flights or the article eventually will become too long and cumbersome.  Under this definition, Montreal will have only one airport as Mirabel and St. Hubert don't deal with scheduled passenger flights.  
smr 21:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of article 

message: Does Islamabad have two airports? As per the New Islamabad International Airport article it is not functional yet, and even when it eventually will be it is expected to replace (not augment) the Benazir Bhutto International Airport. That does not seem to be the intention of this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binand (talk • contribs) 09:11, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Islamabad

message: Abbotsford International Airport should not be included in this list as Abbotsford is not within the boundaries of the Greater Vancouver Regional District.
75.157.4.12 (talk) 14:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the location but where it serves. For example London Stansted Airport is in Uttlesford, Essex and London Luton Airport is in Luton (51 km/32) north of London. The same applies to other airports/towns as well. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 14:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Abbotsford

message: If Trenton-Mercer Airport is listed for NYC, then why shouldn't Southampton Airport be listed for London? The latter is the same distance from London as the former is from NYC, is serviced by direct trains to/from Waterloo Station, is much bigger/busier and includes international operations (the former is strictly domestic). Alternatively, Trenton-Mercer might not merit being considered a NYC airport, after all.
31.210.181.187 (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly. London Southend Airport does have (a small number of) scheduled flights. London Ashford Airport also features a small number of scheduled flights, whilst London Oxford and London Biggin Hill do not have scheduled flights. What's the criteria for inclusion? User:Spacevezontalk 16:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: London

message: Orly, CDG, Beauvais (yeah, I know), but also Le bourget (ever remember Indbergh?), Villacoublay, etc... In fact, in the French-language section about Aeroports de Paris, it is said that ADP administers 14 airfields in Ile-de-France...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.144.119.170 (talk) 21:50, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Bauvais is not really Paris, but Le Bourget definitly count. Ist for buisness, privates jets and exibitions, but it has a real activity with all theses. Maybe Toussus Le Noble could also qualify as an airport of paris as it got two hard runways and get recepts private jets  </br>Clealry Paris hasen't 14 airport. Aéroport de Paris is a Brand, and it has the management of 25 airports all over the world 193.52.245.6 (talk) 15:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Paris

message: Moscow has more then 3: :Category:Airports_in_Moscow_Oblast --188.62.37.29 (talk) 12:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To be included to the list, an airport should operate sceduled civil flights. The most closest is Bykovo, but there are no scheduled flights since 2003. According to the page in ru-wiki, government does not plan to develop civil aviation in Bykovo. Ostafyevo is a business airport for Gazprom, so it does not count as well, I suppose. Semifinalist (talk) 09:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moscow 

message: Miami is listed as having three airports, and as having two airports. --96.32.133.130 (talk) 00:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miami 

message: Vancouver should only be counted as having only six airports, as one of the seven listed is only a heliport. 68.199.45.136 (talk) 12:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article on airport includes heliports. From the opening of that article "An airport is a location where aircraft such as fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and blimps takeoff and land. Aircraft may be stored or maintained at an airport. An airport consists of at least one surface such as a runway for a plane to takeoff and land, a helipad, or water for takeoffs and landings, and often includes buildings such as control towers, hangars and terminal buildings." Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 12:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vancouver 

message: Either I don't understand the definition of "within city limits" or the data for Los Angeles is incorrect. While both Bob Hope airport and Long Beach airport are indeed within city limits, they are not within the Los Angeles city limit. They can be found within Burbank and Long Beach respectively.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.154.160.152 (talk) 03:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Limits? 

message: Orio al Serio Airport serves the city of Milano but is a Bergamo airport. However also the Malpensa Airport, even serving Milano city, is an airport of Varese. --AlexanderFreud (talk) 12:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Parma-Milan Airport as in the official name? Would love to see some references to have a good laugh :-).--Sal73x (talk) 12:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milano - 3 or 2 airports ? 

message: Can the comunitiy of wiki-users decide what are the criteria for this article? Simple rules so that we can estabilish which aiports to include and which airport does not meet the criteria. Just to make some examples:
* Only airports with commercial flights
* With at least 100.000 passengers per year
* Within 50km/50miles from city-centre
As the article stands now is a simple list with mixed info and very incomplete.--Sal73x (talk) 12:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criteria 

message: Düsseldorf, Germany, is missing in this list. Apart from its main airport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCsseldorf_Airport) it is also served by "Düsseldorf Mönchengladbach Airport" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCsseldorf_M%C3%B6nchengladbach_Airport). Furthermore it is served by "Weeze Airport" which, for some time, was also called "Düsseldorf-Weeze airport" and its main carrier (Ryanair) still refers to it under that name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeze_Airport). 176.4.69.33 (talk) 08:24, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Mönchengladbach has no scheduled services, so it doesn't belong here (this is about airports with commercial scheduled services, as it states in the lead) while Ryanair's claim is just their marketing and would need an outside source. oknazevad (talk) 19:19, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Düsseldorf 

message: At present, Copenhagen is listed as having two airports - Kastrup and Roskilde. But there are also regularly scheduled seaplane flights from Copenhagen Harbour to Aarhus, and it's registered as an airport with the ICAO code EKCC. Does this count? Smurrayinchester 08:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed Miami Seaplane Base is listed, so I guess the answer is yes. Smurrayinchester 11:54, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. Looks good. oknazevad (talk) 12:08, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seaplane airports 

message: While it isn't exactly a normal airline, Airly is now running scheduled passenger-carrying flights out of Sydney's Bankstown Airport, being the first passenger carrier to operate scheduled services from the airport. Would that qualify Sydney to feature on this list, with Bankstown alongside Sydney (Kingsford Smith) Airport? trainsandtech (talk) 09:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: With the need to prefegister as a client of the company, it's not an actual common carrier scheduled passenger service, that is a regular airline where anyone can buy a ticket, but what is known in the industry as a "scheduled charter", which operates according to the licensing of a charter aircraft, not a standard commercial operating certificate. So it doesn't fall under the scope of the services intended here. oknazevad (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I will amend the Bankstown Airport article to reflect that. trainsandtech (talk) 09:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sydney 

message: I've removed Trenton-Mercer airport for New York City because it's a tiny airport and not usually considered a part of the New York City airport system. If we want to include it, then we could include many more airports for the other cities in the list. BenBezuidenhout (talk) 14:31, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's small, but it does have unambiguously commercial flights, and is part of the NYC metro area per the US Office of Management and Budget. Now, there's very few people who would fly into Trenton to get to NYC itself, but TTN draws from the New Jersey parts of the metro area, who go to Trenton instead of Newark, which is definitely part of the NYC airport system. oknazevad (talk) 01:23, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I feel like this expanded category means we can start adding plenty of airports to other cities in the list. Would you argue London Oxford Aiport should now be included? What about. I feel like the arguments you gave for including Trenton-Mercer hold no water. I see no airlines or commercial companies that offer Trenton-Mercer as an option for flying to NYC. It seems ridiculous to add it to be quite blunt. If I don't get a sufficient reply again, I will just revert it and I don't want to see this resort to an edit war. BenBezuidenhout (talk) 20:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but the weekend kept me away from substantial Wikipedia discussion. It makes for a more collaborative environment if you wait more than 36 hours for a response. As for the actual topic, I'm just going to point to Aviation in the New York metropolitan area, which includes discussion of Trenton-Mercer. oknazevad (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, I'm sure you have no issue with me including the 17 other airports mentioned in the Airports of London article then? That would take London to 22. I'll make amends by this evening. BenBezuidenhout (talk) 20:57, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Do they have scheduled commercial service? Because that's the criteria for inclusion. oknazevad (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Lydd and Oxford do, as illustrated in this "Airports of London" map. If you're happy with this, I can add these two tomorrow morning (after you've replied)? BenBezuidenhout (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Oxford doesn't have any scheduled service (only some brief-lived startups in the past), and Lydd is only scheduled charter (not scheduled commercial; the two are different types of service). Oxford is out. Lydd is marginal, and if we are to include it, then New York would also get Morristown Municipal Airport, which also has a scheduled charter service. I'd just leave both Lydd and Morristown out, as we have this far. oknazevad (talk) 00:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trenton-Mercer 

message: Doesn't Toronto have 4 airports? Not 3. The region of Waterloo airport should be included right? Zacharycmango (talk) 22:45, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't the Kitchener–Waterloo region a separate metro area, not part of the Golden Horseshoe? I don't think it makes the cut as a Toronto airport. oknazevad (talk) 23:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toronto airports 

message: Should the entry for Chicago be expanded to include Gary/Chicago International Airport? The WP article says 'Gary/Chicago bills itself as the "third airport" for the Chicago metropolitan area'. At only 25 miles of Chicago city center, it is closer than some other airports on this list (example: BWI is 30 mi from DC). Note that if Chicago is expanded with Gary/Chicago, that elevates it to the previous section for four airports. — Molly-in-md (talk) 13:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Gary has had no commercial passenger service since 2013. As that is the required criteria for being on this list, we won't add Gary to the Chicago entry until it gets commercial service again. Heck, Rockford is pushing it, being 85 miles away; in that case it's more marketing to the northwest suburbs than actual travel to the city of Chicago. oknazevad (talk) 00:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago-area airports 

message: The Seattle area is listed as having 5 airports, yet it seems only 2 of these have substantial commercial service (SEA, and Paine Field has service from Alaska Air). Should this really be under the 4 or more section? Does anyone agree or disagree? –Aaronw1109 (talk) (contribs) 01:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I just took Seattle off the 4 or more list. Please do not hesitate to reach out if you disagree with my edit. Thanks, –Aaronw1109 (talk) (contribs) 01:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't disagree. All the others are only used by Kenmore Air, which is the class called scheduled charter service, not a common carrier commercial airline. oknazevad (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: As an additional thought, I did a similar edit for Vancouver some time back. Looking at it further, Vancouver should also be bumped down to two airports, as the seaplane base there is in the same boat (pardon the pun). oknazevad (talk) 11:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I respect your pun. I'm looking at the other airports on here and it looks like there's quite a few that only have charter service. I'll keep taking some off –Aaronw1109 (talk) (contribs) 17:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, a good audit of the list is appreciated. Like me just removing Kansas City the other day. I appreciate fresh eyes. oknazevad (talk) 17:43, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seattle