Talk:Legal guardian

message: The result was keep separate. -- Debate 木 00:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservatorship Merger Proposal 

message: The section seems to be rather tendentious. Apparently the Werner Fuss Zentrum appears to be a group opposed to involuntary commitment. Fair enough, but I believe the section should be rewritten nonetheless, to comply with NPOV policy and be somewhat more informative. The Werner Fuss Zentrum would serve it's cause better by choosing a less alarmist tone and reporting some specific facts. 86.56.109.195 (talk) 06:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: German law

message: I think this section should be deleted entirely, as it doesn't speak to the overall tone or information of the article. I feel as though the article can be complete without it.207.180.32.26 (talk) 19:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: German Law

message: I don't think the heading "estates" accurately describes the content of this section.  How about "Estates and Financial Decision-making" to indicate that it's a little broader (for the non-lawyer)?  Most laypeople think of the "estate" as being the person's property after they've died, so I suggest making the header a little more inclusive, since the section deals with the distinction between financial decision-making and other decision-making about the person.  Drvestone (talk) 14:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Estates

message: "Ward" is still used in many jurisdictions, but there is a move towards using "the protected person" instead of "the ward," because it is considered a more respectful term (e.g., Minnesota statutes, Guardianship Alliance of CO).   I suggest that where "ward" is first introduced, that this article note that fact:  "A legal guardian is a person who has the legal authority (and the corresponding duty) to care for the personal and property  interests of another person, called a ward or protected person."  Drvestone (talk) 14:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Ward

message: Just an observation - the article as currently constituted is pretty heavy POV (uncomfortably so). At least to my eye, much of the entry reads as a slightly breathless condemnation of legal guardians. 173.210.65.42 (talk) 01:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I would like to make changes to this article, and would like some input. As it stands, the article makes it seem as though GALs are volunteers, that they are always qualified for the job, that their pay and actions are overseen by the court, and that they always have the child's best interest at heart.  This needs to be changed. There is a support group here in Montana for parents who have to repeatedly send their children to an abuser because the GAL did not believe them or the child. A GAL can charge as they wish, has no oversight, and can make decisions based on their own opinion with no qualifications or other professional consultation. This article does not let parents know this, and they may inadvertently appoint one to protect their child only to find they have done the opposite. So parents are informed of the truth, this article needs to be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForChildJustice (talk • contribs) 19:09, 29 June 2014‎
:My advice for you is to find the most gold-plated, non-activist/non-support-group, academic sources that you can on this subject, and write a very concise summary of what the sources say.  Articles written by professors of law or psychology would probably be good.  Make sure that you're being fair to all sides, and not just cherry-picking sources that agree with your own views or experiences.  If, for example, only 5% of GALs are underqualified or overpaid, then one would not want to smear all 100% of them with allegations of incompetence and profiteering.  
:Speaking of "statements that are true for all of them", it would be very helpful if you could find information about how this is handled in multiple countries, or at least multiple US states, because the regulations may vary significantly.  I realize that this might be difficult, but please give it a try.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: POV 2

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: ::Column: With U.S. elder abuse in spotlight, a look at guardians, Reuters, Mark Miller, Oct. 20, 2017:'  .  .  .  a 2010 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) identified hundreds of allegations of abuse, neglect, and exploitation by guardians in 45 states and the District of Columbia between 1990 and 2010.  .  .  '
Okay, so allegations, and what kind of follow-up was there? FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: HOW THE ELDERLY LOSE THEIR RIGHTS, Guardians can sell the assets and control the lives of senior citizens without their consent—and reap a profit from it, The New Yorker, Rachel Aviv, Oct. 9, 2017.
This New Yorker article discusses at some length the situation in Nevada.  Some guardians have multiple clients and make a living off the system.  The article also presents the case that some persons are placed under guardianship when they do not need to be, and then it is quite difficult to reverse this mistake.
The Guardianship for incapacitated seniors of our article has a first paragraph of plain vanilla of how the system should ideally work, with no references whatsoever.  The second paragraph has three references, but none for the last two sentences in which it's acknowledged that family members may at times contest with each other through the court system.  And nowhere do we acknowledge that, like any human institution, there may be problems with the court system itself.
The above two references easily pass the threshold of good enough, and will help to improve this section. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Guardianships: Cases of Financial Exploitation, Neglect, and Abuse of Seniors, Highlights, U.S. Government Accountability Office, Published: Sep 30, 2010. Publicly Released: Oct 27, 2010.'  .  .  .  examine the facts in selected closed cases;  .  .    .  .  .  In 6 of 20 cases, the courts failed to adequately screen potential guardians, appointing individuals with criminal convictions or significant financial problems to manage high-dollar estates. In 12 of 20 cases, the courts failed to oversee guardians once they were appointed, allowing the abuse of vulnerable seniors and their assets to continue. Lastly, in 11 of 20 cases, courts and federal agencies did not communicate effectively or at all with each other about abusive guardians, allowing the guardian to continue the abuse of the victim and/or others.  .  .  '
Now, this whole report is 58 pages.  I think it's good to supplement longish sources with journalistic sources.  That is, instead of simply counting on ourselves as Wiki readers and editors to summarize the source, we can rely on solid news sources such as Reuters column above.FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving our section on "Guardianship for incapacitated seniors" 

message: In Ohio, according to Ohio Supreme Court - Rules of Superintendence 48(D) - there are a minimum of 17 requirements that a Guardian ad Litem needs to complete short of a written order by the court and agreement of the parties.  Also according to ORC 3109.04, there are 11 factors of Best Interest (singular term)that are considered by the Domestic relations and for the juvenile court to incorporate when the Judge or magistrate is making a placement or custodial determination.Wikiyaldah (talk) 18:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guardian ad Litem Rules & Practices - Ohio 

message: I propose to merge Legal custody into Legal guardian. I think that the content in the Legal custody article can easily be explained in the context of Legal guardian, and the Legal guardian article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Legal custody will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Delasse (talk) 14:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: — Assignment last updated by Meganllawrence (talk) 21:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Advanced Forensic Psychology

message: The article says that biological parents are natural guardians but does not say whether biological parents are legal guardians. Some websites say they are. Also, is stepfather a legal guardian if he takes care of the child? Nemohuman (talk) 06:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer depends on the applicable law, which varies from place to place.  Any man who needed to know that for his personal situation would presumably want to be talking to a lawyer (either hired by him or provided free through a local Legal aid scheme), and not asking random people on the internet. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are biological parent and stepfather legal guardians 

message: I found some items without citations with Citation needed. I went ahead and figure some of it out, and added an example of the differences in legal qualifications to become a GAL. It seems states are different in training and certification. 8barzmusic (talk) 18:01, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did a little work on the page so far