Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Archive 6

message: Phillips' Sound Recording Services is a new article by a new editor, which may be of interest to members of this Wikiproject. DuncanHill (talk) 16:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cleaned and worked on it, but others are welcome.--andreasegde (talk) 14:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article which may be of interest to you good people 

message: Seltaeb (merchandising company).--andreasegde (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another new article which may be of interest 

message: The redesigned portal is up and running - Portal:The Beatles (or P:TB).  I'll try to update it every week, but feel free to fiddle...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 10:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The portal 

message: According to two editors (Zephyrad and Justin (koavf)) the article should remain as Magic Alex, and not "Alex Mardas (Magic Alex)". This despite the fact that 
*Magic Alex (discounting the title) is mentioned FIVE times. 
*Alex (alone) is mentioned TWICE. 
*Mardas is mentioned over SEVENTY times.
The mind boggles.--andreasegde (talk) 14:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it should probably be Alex Mardas, but the use of a second title in brackets is only used to disambiguate between different pages, so I can see why there were objections to that. Hope it doesn't stop you taking it to GA as it's a damn fine article. I don't mind taking it on, except that all my Beatles books are locked up in an attic somewhere so I can't really add much more content wise:)--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Magic Alex]] 

message: The furore is hopefully winding down (thanks to Dendodge's intervention) although it will inevitably flare up again at some point. No matter which side anyone is on (the or The) I'm sure it has been a very unpleasant experience.--andreasegde (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, thanks - but I'm sure someone else would have thought of a straw poll.  I got in there first, that's all.  It's a shame this is the best thing we can find to argue about - surely there are more important things to do.  I can't help thinking The Beatles could be at FA by now if we hadn't wasted so much time.  Soon all this will be over, and for it to flare up again would be even more pointless.  I ask that we just let it be...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 14:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No; take a pat on the back. It was spiralling out of control before you stepped in.--andreasegde (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Beatles The Beatles 

message: I've just set this up.  This would allow us to peer review Beatles related articles without clogging up the main Wikipedia peer review page.  It will mean a faster review, and one by someone more familiar with the topic.  It doesn't stop us from using the main peer review page, and I can't really think of a downside ¡ Dendodge|TalkContribs ! 17:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a couple of interface changes, and it's now fully functional - feel free to submit articles for review Dendodge|TalkContribs 21:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm glad someone likes it Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review page 

message: Just so you know, Yellow Submarine (song) is up for  an internal Beatles' project peer review. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have upgraded it to a B-class article. With a few more references, it could go for a GAR.--andreasegde (talk) 17:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Yellow Submarine (song)]] 

message: She is now a good article, even though Miss Mills herself would prefer a Featured article, no doubt... (Sarcasm is fatal)--andreasegde (talk) 16:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Heather Mills]] 

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replies: text: What is this cobblers? The George Harrison article is rubbish, and not even a GA, and why release something on DVD when it's available on the internet?--andreasegde (talk) 22:48, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for The Beatles 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for George Martin 

message: Just in case I missed anyone,
	Happy Beatles Day!  Just a message from The Beatles WikiProject! Have a great day, !
...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 11:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beatles Day 

message: Albums with the Beatles talk page banner  do not currently get categorized in :Category:WikiProject Albums articles, the categorization used by Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums. Could someone add the functionality so The Beatles albums are also categorized in the albums categories (namely :Category:Album articles by importance and :Category:Album articles by quality).
At least one extra parameter is needed for the importance rating, since the importance of the album to this project may be different than the album's importance to the albums project. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 02:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Densock|Dendodgein public 11:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think.  81.108.112.91 (talk) 21:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That was me!  Dendodge|TalkContribs 21:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No inheritance to WikiProject Albums 

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replies: text: It appears the FAR has already been withdrawn; discussion is now on the Something talk page. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Something]] 

message: Please see AfD for The Dissenters. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like an afternoon booze-up idea between Lennon, Sutcliffe and Harry. Doesn't really warrant an article.--andreasegde (talk) 14:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I have added the info in it to The Quarrymen, with ref.--andreasegde (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD 

message: I just made us a barnstar.  .
It's a normal barnstar with Paul's Moptop and The Beatles logo.  It's crap, I know, but I've never been good at images. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:13, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not bad. :)--212.241.64.236 (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barnstar 

message: The Beatles for Sale cover image was lost (see ).  Can anyone upload one?  I think there are some restrictions on how good the resolution can be. . .  (John User:Jwy talk) 18:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have them all saved on my computer.  I'll upload it now. Dendodge TalkContribs 18:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dendodge TalkContribs 19:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What can one say but "fab!" thx. (John User:Jwy talk) 19:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beatles for Sale image 

message: Could someone go over and check out Template:The Beatles.  I've attempted to fix a problem, but not sure I've succeeded. (John User:Jwy talk) 18:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me - any particular problems? Dendodge TalkContribs 19:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Prior to my edit, the DEFAULT SORT there was in the "included" sections, overriding anything in the articles, thus putting them all in the "B" section and printing an error message on the page.  I think it is fixed - I couldn't stick around for the cach to pick it up.   Thanks for looking.  (John User:Jwy talk) 05:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template 

message: I'm trying to figure out which template is most appropriate for First Live Recordings. Should it go on :Template:The Beatles or :Template:The Beatles compilations? Neelix (talk) 22:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say add it to the compilations one, and put that one on the page - you might want to add it to the other one too. Densock|Dendodgein public 12:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Live Recordings 

message: I have expressed some concerns about original research in this passage from I Am the Walrus:
In an amazing coincidence, Lear IV.6. is the only scene in all of Shakespeare (out of more than a thousand) that features both English homonyms for "Beatle"  (only one other scene, II.1. of Henry 6 II, features either of those words more than once).   In other words, the Beatles randomly added, in "real time" "found art," in "found art," the only scene from Shakespeare that features both the words "beadle" and "beetle". 
The first two citations are to a Shakespeare concordance that only produces statistical results by searching for words in Shakespeare's works. It does not discuss anything; it does not note the "amazing coincidence" between the song and Shakespeare. That is clearly original research and/or or synthesized research. Likewise, the remaining sources do not discuss "found art" in relation to this specific song, making the the second sentence also original or synthesized research.
An anon editor has persistently re-inserted this information with no substantive change, despite being given an explanation of original research and Wikipedia's policies about original research. Ward3001 (talk) 17:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "In an amazing coincidence" made the hair on the back of my neck stand up in horror. Pure POV, or what? Time to point out something simple to someone.--andreasegde (talk) 20:19, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

text: It's all cobblers... A Beadle was a parish officer having various subordinate duties, as keeping order during services, waiting on the rector, etc. Shakespeare didn't have a dictionary, and spelt lots of words (sometimes 6 different ways) as he felt. The above theory is as good as saying that a kebab used to be a sheep.--andreasegde (talk) 20:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research on Shakespeare in I Am the Walrus article 

message: There is a minor spat at Magical Mystery Tour (film) as to whether it's preceded by the Shea Stadium documentary; certainly it is a film about The Beatles but it does not seem to have been officially released. Do we regard this as "A Beatles film" or not? Comments welcome. --Rodhullandemu 20:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canonicity of [[The Beatles at Shea Stadium]] 

message: Is anyone brave enough to fill out the intro to three paragraphs, and then take it to a GA nomination? It's very well referenced, and is very interesting.--andreasegde (talk) 19:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Magic Alex]] 

message: There is some uncertainty over whether Harrison had a middle name. Dispute arises from a claim on shawstar.com that there is no Harold on Harrison's birth certificate, yet reliable sources give Harold as Harrison's middle name. I have set up a discussion point at: Talk:George_Harrison#George_Harold_Harrison. Does anyone know anything about this? SilkTork *YES! 23:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Harrison or George Harold Harrison 

message: An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, :File:The Eastman Familyjpeg.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted.   howcheng  {chat} 22:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't bother - they're both gone. Linda McCartney's main picture has also been deleted. I hope people like reading black & white instruction manuals.--andreasegde (talk) 19:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  File:The Eastman Familyjpeg.jpg listed for deletion 

message: Can somebody please check out WP:TBPR - I've listed all 3 of the peer reviews listed there myself, so can't review them, but nobody ever visits the page.  I'm just trying to raise awareness of this important part of the project. Dendodge TalkContribs 16:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review 

message: Since nobody seems to bother with it, I thought I'd publicise it here - we have a monthly collaboration. It is selected monthly by a bot, and I would appreciate any efforts to improve the article. The current article is (automatically updated):
Clicking the article name will, obviously, take you to the article page. Clicking 'talk' is also self explanatory - it takes you to the article's talk page. I have set aside a special page for collaboration, which is a subpage of the main COTM page; clicking 'collaborate' takes you there. 'To do' is a quick link to the article's todo list.
Please help improve the article every month - it is currently (as I write this) If I Fell. Thanks! Dendodge TalkContribs 18:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration 

message: A "complete" discography article has been created at The Beatles All Works.  Seems redundant with The Beatles discography.  I've tried to start a discussion at Talk:The Beatles discography#The Beatles All Works. (John User:Jwy talk) 18:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Beatles All Works 

message: Please check that all articles classified as B-Class have
|b1                 = yes
|b2                 = yes
|b3                 = yes
|b4                 = yes
|b5                 = yes
|b6                 = yes
as part of their  banner - it doesn't do anything yet, but when all have been assessed, I will implement the scale. The criteria do not have to be too strict, just check that they pass WP:1.0/B. Thanks! Dendodge TalkContribs 16:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I did them all last night (with a little help from my friend), and I've implemented the B-Class checklist - it's amazing how many articles were wrongly classified as B-Class: at least 3 redirects, 2 obvious stubs, some completely unsourced articles, and even a project space collection of trivia! As far as I know now, an article can't be assessed as B-Class without answering 'yes' to all the questions (but you can set GA, A and FA status, since these require the passing of an external review). There's also the possibility of an A-Class checklist - I'll look into that and see if that will make a decent improvement to the project. Dendodge TalkContribs 11:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New B-Class assessment scale! 

message: We currently rate articles at whatever importance we feel like, so we have things everywhere. Here's my suggestion for a standardised scale - feel free to offer your own:
Top 	
*The Beatles, The Beatles discography and History of The Beatles
*Band members
*Other important personnel (e.g. Epstein and Martin)
High	
*Albums
*Beatle wives
Mid 	
*Songs
*Other family members
Low 	
*Anything else
I did this in about a minute, so it's probably not as well thought out as it could be - please suggest alterations before we implement this. Dendodge TalkContribs 11:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standardise importance? 

message: I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks!  - Jarry1250 (t, c) 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I love the idea - if noone objects by tonight I'll add us - it won't have any adverse effects, so I see no need for a 'proper' gathering of consensus. Densock|Dendodgein public 12:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milestone Announcements 

message: I added a brief blurb to Hofner about the Icon B-Bass limited edition colors. Does someone want to have a look and make any suggestions?
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thread_title:  Hofner Bass Info 

message: Portal:The Beatles is being considered for Featured portal status. Comments are appreciated, here: Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:The Beatles. Cirt (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured portal consideration 

message: Regarding Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Citations, how active and/or honored is this guideline for short-form cites for books, ie what is covered at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Shortened_footnotes?  The recommended short form of "Lewisohn 2003 p23" is a bit harsh in having no space between the 'p' and the page number, and I notice a lot of variation/deviation away from that in The Beatles and in the four members' articles.  Also I see some use of short titles rather than years, which to me has more mnemonic value if slightly less compact.  I've looked through the archives for past discussion on this, but didn't see any, unless I missed it in all the "the/The" drama. I'm about to go through and get all of George Harrison's book cites in short form, so I want to know what's the best form to use.  Wasted Time R (talk) 02:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia guidelines, use whatever citation style you prefer, as long as it is consistently used throughout the article. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How honoured is short-form citation style for books? 

message: Hi, everyone. I am not a contributor to articles related to The Beatles, but I think I should let this project know that there are a few potential good topics you guys can nominate. The following one is pretty close as 4 out of 5 have already achieved good article status:
—Chris! ct 02:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See User:Dendodge#To do - I've actually had a bigger one planned for some time. Dendodge TalkContribs 18:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

text: For a band topic, you'd need to include the discography article as well, as well as any other relevant subarticles. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:58, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Should I attempt to get The Beatles discography to FL, then? How close is it? Dendodge TalkContribs 12:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs to be overhauled. For an example of a Featured List discography, see The Cure discography. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential [[Wikipedia:Good topics|good topic]] 

message: I would guess this has been discussed before (but I didn't find it), and I don't want to create an inordinate ruckus, but in looking at The Beatles navigation template and individual album pages I am very much bothered by the omission of the US album releases from the template.  Prior to the release of cds, millions of American fans' knowledge of the Beatles came from their battered copies of Meet The Beatles!, The Beatles' Second Album, Beatles '65, etc.  Of course they are not the "official" Beatle albums (and I have to say how exciting it was for me to buy vinyls of the "real" Beatles albums the first time I went to London in 1971), but I think we are doing a disservice to American fans and to the world of knowledge by not including these American editions in the nav box.  If I'm looking at Please Please Me (the album), I want an easy way to navigate to the equivalent American album(s) and I want to see how they lined up and what their chronology was.  I know the nav box is big, but I think adding a couple of lines won't hurt it, and it will be a significant improvement to our fine set of Beatles articles which right now tend to minimize the fact that the US played at least some tiny part in the fame and success of the band.  Thoughts?   Tvoz/talk 20:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For me it was the publication of the Roy Carr/Tony Tyler book The Beatles: An Illustrated Record in 1975 (a best-seller in the US) that clued me in that the British sequencing was the one that made artistic sense, and after that I started buying the British LPs as imports or bringing them back from England trips.  Indeed it was only after that that I started really liking early Beatles, because now the artistic development was clearer.  Then when I finally got the British Rubber Soul, I was upset a bit in the other direction because it didn't have the same wonderful folk flavor that everyone knew from the US one.  So yes, the different experiences are meaningful.  As for templates, both Template:The Rolling Stones and Template:The Animals show US albums, with the Stones one showing the sequence (I should probably change the Animals one to do this too).  And the Stones template is just as big as the Beatles one.  So there is precedent for doing this.  Wasted Time R (talk) 22:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked further and see that the US editions were removed in October by an IP without any discussion or even edit summary - I have reinstated them.  Someone might look at the other edits made on this template in that edit - I'm less familiar with the EPs  but am not convinced they all should have been removed.  Same IP also removed all of the US singles without discussion or edit summary Tvoz/talk 08:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the EP handling is correct, just the two with original material.  There was past discussion to this effect in Template talk:The Beatles.  Wasted Time R (talk) 15:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that makes sense. I hadn't seen the EP discussion. Tvoz/talk 00:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  American editions of albums 

message: Hi!  I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate.  This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.
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thread_title:  Coordinators' working group 

message: I thought I'd nip over from the Michael Jackson WikiProject and ask you guys for a favour. I've cleaned and sourced the above article, and would really appreciate somebody adding the credits for this song. Thanks in advance, Pyrrhus16 12:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I was able to find the credits, but it would be great if somebody could check that they are accurate. Pyrrhus16 17:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Say Say Say]] 

message: Just thought I'd let everyone know that The Beatles is the most read article on Wikipedia, and has been consistently over the past 30 days: WikiRank.com —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 03:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's nice. Thanks for the info, Gordon. The Beatles: 3,341,283 views - United States: 1,452,942 views. Well ahead... --andreasegde (talk) 09:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:WikiProject The Beatles/Popular pages might be of some interest, too. Densock|Dendodgein public 11:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiRank 

message: For those of you who have the Beatles For Sale book by John Blaney, could you please tell me on which page is Sony/ATV valued at $30 billion? I would have used this, but a blog is an unreliable source. Thanks. Pyrrhus16 12:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sony/ATV 

message: Please provide your opinion about moving "Ticket to Ride" from The Beatles song to a disambiguation page. The dispute is about whether or not the song is the primary topic. See Talk:Ticket to Ride (disambiguation). — John Cardinal (talk) 00:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ticket to Ride 

message: Hello There are references to The Beatles Complete On Ukulele all over the place; this seems non-notable. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tagged for WP:CSD#A7 Dendodge T\C 22:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fails all tests in here; hence, it's gone. Orphan links should be hosed by a bot in due course. Rodhullandemu 22:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Beatles Complete On Ukulele]] 

message: Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects?  If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3.  Thanks, Matt (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects? 

message: nominated Yesterday (song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Cirt (talk) 21:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR on Yesterday (song) 

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thread_title:  GA Sweeps invitation 

message: These are great, but they need a really good polish for dates, style and info. They should all be brought up to GA standard. It's early days, but there is much to do.--andreasegde (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-articles 

message: I suggest we do the following:
# rename Magical Mystery Tour to Magical Mystery Tour (disambiguation)
# move (or redirect) Magical Mystery Tour to the album.
# add a dab comment to the top of the album article.
Roll on up to Talk:Magical Mystery Tour (album)#Article titles to discuss (don't start a thread here, please). (John User:Jwy talk) 20:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magical Mystery Tour article titles 

message: No, I'm not going on TV. I link the idea of participating in User:Shappy/Amazing Race Wikipedia, but it's a 2-person-per-team event. Since The Beatles are my specialist subject, I thought I'd see if anyone here's interested before I try other venues. First reply gets the place (and, let's be honest, who doesn't want to be my partner!? =P). Dendodge T\C 21:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I don't need a partner any more. I've become a host instead. Dendodge T\C 16:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I need an Amazing Race partner 

message: The Hey Jude (album) article has some excellent and detailed background information, but it remains mostly unsourced, so the article is currently rated as a Start-class. It need some love to bring it up to at least a C (although I'd bet that it wouldn't take too much effort to bring it higher). —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 15:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hey Jude (album)]] needs love 

message: This is a (very) new article, but it will be very detailed, which should ease the load on the main Beatles' article, and also provide a lot of info (Lennon and the nuns will also be included). Please contribute, when you feel the urge...--andreasegde (talk) 20:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now a GA.--andreasegde (talk) 14:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Beatles in Hamburg]] 

message: One more and this project will have 50 articles.--andreasegde (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Added The Beatles: The Cavern Club and Brian Epstein (I'm not canvassing for reviews, BTW, just posting my progress). Dendodge T\C 19:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Just after adding the 50th article just now. Pyrrhus16 22:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks! :) Pyrrhus16 12:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA and FA articles 

message: *Magic Alex
*The Beatles at The Cavern Club - This needs a lot of work. 
*Bill Harry
*The Beatles in the United States
*Ringo Starr
Can we please keep a track of these nominations by posting them here, or here? Keep in step, little piggies...--andreasegde (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:GAN|Good article nominations]] 

message: can i have permission to remove the crossed-out articles from this section
Zobango (talk) 19:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Be our guest, and do it. :)--andreasegde (talk) 15:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  removal of adopted articles 

message: Bill Harry is coming along nicely, although I'm having trouble with a certain editor who is on my case about photos.--andreasegde (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone fancy working on the lead? I hate doing it.--andreasegde (talk) 12:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Harry 

message: http://www.iranian.com/Jan96/Articles/Beatelha.html
This link claims McCartney made an appearance on Iranian television, but I cant find anywhere else that states this
Zobango (talk) 00:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  McCartney in Iran 

message: I've been working on this article on and off for about three weeks, doing a major expansion, fact check, and clean-up.  I tried to keep GA criteria in mind as I was editing, but I don't want to presume that it's anywhere near ready for GA nomination. I'd appreciate someone taking an informal look-see to determine the next steps that would be appropriate. Thanks. —Mainstream Nerd (talk) 02:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]] 

message: I was just going through the MPL catalog to see what kinds of songs they have the publishing rights to, and I came across a song called "P.S. Love Me Do". It turns out to be a medley of "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You", performed almost a capella by Paul McCartney by Paul McCartney without him playing an instrument, apparently during a 1990 concert (tour?). It's an interesting tidbit, but there isn't an article about it, it doesn't look like there's any mention of it anywhere, either. (I only had a quick glance, so I could be wrong on that point.) Just thought I'd let everyone know. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 06:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  P.S. Love Me Do 

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thread_title:  Paul McCartney GAR notification 

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thread_title:  Changes to popular pages lists 

message: I have reassessed the above article and found a few concerns which are at Talk:Astrid Kirchherr/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.--andreasegde (talk) 16:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA reassessment of [[Astrid Kirchherr]] 

message: Hi everyone.  I recently started to edit here, and I've noticed that there's been a lot of contention over the genre(s) listed in the infobox for The Beatles, various songs and albums, and also the members of the band.  You're probably all aware of this, but this page may be a good place for a centralized discussion of the issue.  Deserted Cities 15:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre Changes 

message: I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Cynthia Lennon/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You should read his review and spot the awful spelling mistakes.--andreasegde (talk) 07:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA reassessment of [[Cynthia Lennon]] 

message: I'm upset with whomever decided to make use to the archive bots to archive the talk pages, both here and at Talk:The Beatles. Strangely, they're not even the same bots! Either way, though, the bots do incremental archiving, which just makes things really hard to follow because they don't do it in any logical grouping. They simply wait for some threads to get old or some archive pages to get to a certain size threshold, and then they just archive random bits. Because it's an automated system, it makes mistakes when guessing where one section starts, and another one begins. And, as if that weren't bad enough, at least one of the bots went back and "consolidated" the archives that I had done by hand. This just screws up the history even more.
I don't know what to propose to make things better, as it would be quite a burden to go back and fix things by hand. I know how tedious it is to do it by hand, and I know that I'm obviously not always around to do it, but I am here to express my disdain for the new status quo. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 21:04, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those considering this question may wish to take into account this bot problem that occurred today. Some manual archiving is said to be needed in relation to certain page content. PL290 (talk) 15:22, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive Bots 

message: I notice the Apple Records discography is listed here as requiring a cleanup.  I recently did a complete revamp of the article and would be interested to know what the WikiProject members think about it.  Can anymore be done to improve it?  Would be interested to know what your thoughts are. Jordansongs</span></span> 00:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apple Records discography 

message: I've added a note the to the current events portal entry for today. It may need to be spruced up with more direct wikilinks or better verbiage or sources. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 18:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current events portal 

message: I posted the following at The Beatles in Mono and am cross-posting it here, too: Considering the costs of the box sets, I'm surprised there's no controversy over the fact the Mono set omits the DVD bonus, as well as the remaining albums. Stereo or mono notwithstanding, it forces people to spend hundreds more if they want a complete canon, or having to deal with the stereo versions and skip this one if they want the full set plus the DVD. (I know when the boxes were announced I assumed the Mono set would include the mono mixes where applicable both otherwise be complete; when I found out otherwise I didn't bother buying either set). And in some places - Amazon.com for certain - the mono set is more expensive. Hasn't there been any criticism as to how this was handled? If so, it should be noted. On a related note, I have heard anecdotally that the Beatles releases are being called the last hurrah for the CD format. This too needs to be included in both this article and the Stereo set article, if a source can be located, of course. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 15:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No controversy over omitted material in the Mono set? 

message: Someone is screwing up the side selections for the individual Beatle albums.  For example with Magical Mystery Tour an editor insists on making the first track of side two selection 7 when it obviously should be selection 1.  I have never seen a side two label which lists the first track as number 7.  Please monitor the album articles to make sure each side begins with track one. Steelbeard1 (talk) 16:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it may be the CD issues that are causing someone to think this change should be made, as CDs of course don't have two sides. A quick glance at my old 1987 Sgt. Pepper shows tracks 1-13, and Revolver shows tracks 1-14. Perhaps some kind of note (or hidden comment) should be made in the articles, explaining that the side selections relate to the vinyl originally issued. PL290 (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side selections 

message: Despite a warning given to User talk:96.250.145.195, he is still counting Magical Mystery Tour as an original British LP.  Please monitor the individual British Beatle album articles to make sure he does not correct the album numbering sequence again. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone is trying to make MMT an original British LP. 

message: The article has been assessed for GA status and simply needs the lead expanding to meet the requirements in WP:Lead, and some additional background information to explain more fully the presence of The Beatles in Hamburg. I am putting the article on hold for seven days to allow this to be done. The nominator and main contributor has not logged Wikipedia since 16 September. If I get time I will do the work myself, but I am currently quite busy on and off wiki, and any assistance would be welcome. SilkTork *YES! 12:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The work has been done and the article is now a Good Article. SilkTork *YES! 12:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Congratulations, Silk Tork. Very well done indeed. :)--andreasegde (talk) 22:18, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]] GA Review 

message: User talk:Das Ansehnlisch is edit warring concerning content he is trying to change in the Past Masters (The Beatles albums) by removing critical details essential to the article about the songs in this compilation double album. Please investigate. Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Contact an admin, and let one of them push his rectum. They have the power that we lack, and they use it wisely.--andreasegde (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new edit war. 

message: Currently these seem to be overlapping and the scope of these article collections are ill-defined. Should one be merged with the other? Should they be renamed to something which makes their scope clear? Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 05:18, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Do it.--andreasegde (talk) 22:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Book:Beatles]] vs. [[Book:The Beatles]] 

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thread_title:  WP 1.0 bot announcement 

message: I'm currently working on the Rubber Soul article, and I've reached something of a dilemma. I own only a few books on The Beatles, and, consequently, my coverage of the subject is far short of definitive. Many statements made in the article lack citations, and as much as I'd like to add them, I simply cannot find enough sources to back up the claims made. Would anyone who has a more extensive library consider collaborating with me on the article? Please contact me here or on my talk page if interested. Many thanks. - I.M.S. (talk) 22:45, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rubber Soul]] 

message: Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:
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Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.
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thread_title:  Request for comment on Biographies of living people 

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thread_title: Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people

message: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Beatles Complete On Ukulele The project's to-do box doesn't list AfDs, so I figured I would post it here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD 

message: Most of this article's text appears to be lifted from the third reference (Calkin) which has a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.  I'm not in a position to fix it myself, so I'm bringing it up here for anyone who can.  Thanks!  ReverendWayne (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Beatles Box]] 

message: Letting you know that an article under this project's scope (Julia Lennon) is undergoing an individual good article reassessment. You can read the list of concerns at Talk:Julia Lennon/GA1. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GAR notification 

message: I have reviewed Mimi Smith for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mimi Smith GA Sweeps: On Hold 

message: I've started a discussion here on whether to include more articles in a history section. Regards, --Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:The Beatles]] 

message: nominated Real Love (John Lennon song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.
--Plotfeat (talk) 19:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR: Real Love (John Lennon song) 

message: An admin has determined that :File:Lennon&mccartney.png appears to be a copyvio of a photograph by Linda McCartney, and has nominated it for deletion. Having looked at the evidence provided by the admin, I have to say I agree, and I've responded to that effect. If anyone has evidence to the contrary and wishes to contest the deletion, please do so. PL290 (talk) 17:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation: [[:File:Lennon&mccartney.png]] 

message: Is it time to clear out the article to-do lists? Unless used regularly and kept current, they're likely to do more harm than good when well-meaning new editors look at them for the first time. There's such a lot of random old stuff on there from days gone by. For instance, these excerpts from Talk:Paul_McCartney/to_do:
*Paul's drumming is not notable IMHO.
*ABOVE LIST NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AND COMPLETED ITEMS REMOVED
*Why is the first page a list of his records? Records covered at length below.
*'Keen football fan' - hardly. None of the Beatles were big football fans. Macca has suggested he's a fan of both Liverpool and Everton, but this is more local diplomacy rather than a genuine enthusiasm for the game. Sentence needs removing.
*What happened to the text on the Ram/Imagine episode? I thought I'd put some in?
I question how many editors actually look at the to-do list anyway. The transclusion means it doesn't automatically get watchlisted with the talk page. Are there any articles where the to-do list is actually put to good use? I propose we clear them out and simply use the discussion pages to progress any improvement suggestions that come up. PL290 (talk) 19:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Get rid of article to-do lists?