Talk:Tax Justice Network

message: A "text dump", yes...the article even refers to "our members"!  TJN is viewed by many as an intensely political organization, certainly not "non-aligned".
It is of course debatable that there even ARE any "harmful effects" of tax competition; certainly this adjective does not belong in a neutral description.
What is the "secretive world of offshore finance"? At the least, it would be appropriate to place "secretive" in "-".
Likewise, what is the "shadow economy of tax havens"?  If such highly-charged terms are to be used, perhaps they should be in "-". Chris. Fulker 03:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A bad analogy, as the beneficial owner is taxed on the income of that capital at 35% by the Swiss FTA, of which he can maybe reclaim 20% if he declares the lot to his taxman at home. And lots of people are secretive, even governments. The TJN is a tiny outfit hoping to sell a big story.78.18.252.15 (talk) 01:55, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objectivity...?  Where...? 

message: HI, I just removed some quite blatant POV from the publications section. In the part where it states that the money saved from tax could achieve the UN's goal there was originally a sentence at the end that said "Such a scenario is very unlikely if one considers the history of the world's governments. It would be far more likely to be spent on war and luxurious proceedings for those in control of the government."
Also further down a section refered to the Tax evasion problem as a "Global Crisis" which I removed, although i'm not sure if that is entirely POV, although it was unsourced and the article does flow still with it removed.
Finally someone put quotation marks around the TJN mentioning they did a Major Study which gave it the look as if the TJN was embelishing their work. I personally don't know wether they are or not so I removed the speech marks and reduced it down to just study for balancing. I know the bit about the governments above has to be deleted as POV but if another person thinks the other two should be undone than feel free to do it. --Mishka Shaw (talk) 15:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed POV from publications 

message: This wiki article has fallen into disrepair and is not fully coherent or fact-based.  Have tidied up the page (infobox) and the lede and text.  More could be added here but hopefully, the structure and intro text is improved now.Britishfinance (talk) 07:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up article 

message: I work for the Tax Justice Network. As the last poster has pointed out, this article is very outdated and inaccurate. TJN was originally a coalition of organisations, but it hasn't been that way since 2013, when the Global Alliance for Tax Justice was set up; it no longer has organisational members, and now operates as an independent research and advocacy organisation. I've no idea where the multiple references to 'militants' come from - this is probably a translation issue since it looks as though some of the article text was originally written in French or German, but it would be good if at least these references could be removed! The wider article also has a number of inaccuracies. I'm not proposing to edit the article directly, for obvious reasons, but would be happy to work with anyone who wants to attempt a more wide-reaching update. In the meantime, I request that any references to 'militants' are removed - thanks. 
There is an up to date summary of TJN's structure and activities at https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TJN-Core-Funding-Prospectus.pdf. 
Taxjusticenet (talk) 16:44, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: . . I have made some of the above changes with changes to the language to ensure that it is WP encyclopedic.  I am aware of the TJN activities and am happy that these changes are fair.  I you want to discuss any further changes, I am watching this page now, so will see any questions that you raise.  I would encourage you to paste onto the Talk Page any independent high-quality third-party references (e.g. coverage by The Guardian, Financial Times, etc.), that could be used in addition for referencing.  I am fully confident that the TJN is a notable organisation (there are lots of WP:RS covering the TJN giving it WP:GNG), however, it would be helpful for this article to include more of these references. thanks Britishfinance (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Some proposed changes

message: * It is not known what changes are requested to be made. Please state your desired changes in the form of "Change x to y using z". 
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*The Sun's diameter is 25 miles.
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*The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles.
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Regards,  Spintendo  22:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 14-FEB-2019

message: Thanks. Here are my requested changes:
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Please change:
The Tax Justice Network (or TJN), is an independent advocacy group consisting of a coalition of international researchers and activists with a shared concern about tax avoidance, tax competition, tax evasion, and tax havens. It has a particular focus on offshore financial centres that behave as corporate tax havens. The Tax Justice Network gathers organizations, social movements, and advocates for international tax cooperation, and against tax evasion and tax competition. TJN's goal is to achieve progressive, democratic, and socially just tax systems. It carries out campaigns from an internationalist perspective whose purpose is to develop a fiscal system that is favourable to the poor in developing and developed countries, that finances public good, and that mitigates public wrongs such as pollution and unacceptable inequality.
 
to read as:
using as a reference:
https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TJN-Core-Funding-Prospectus.pdf
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TJN is a multilingual, non-partisan, non-governmental, plural and diverse network. It has as members and militants’ organizations of social movements and national, regional and local civil society, as well as activists for justice in taxes, researchers, journalists, development specialists, trade unionists, and professionals of taxation, politicians and officials.
to read as:
Using as a reference:
https://www.taxjustice.net/2016/11/11/tax-justice-network-transition/
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The main purpose is to combat the lobbying activities of accounting, business or law organizations that use considerable amounts of time and money to ensure favourable tax treatment for wealthy individuals and powerful organizations that shape their customers. Other functions of TJN:
Conducts campaigns for social change through public debate and education. Public understanding of tax issues is the pre-requirement for international tax justice. The Network makes information available through the media as well as through conferences and seminars, the Internet, news bulletins, printed publications, symbolic actions, demonstrations and promotion and defense of its objectives. We base our activities on solvent research and expert knowledge.
Facilitates cooperation among its members and sharing information and communication. It organizes international exchange and policy debates to harmonize the opinions and concerns of our members. This process forms the basis for the comprehensive global campaigns on international fiscal policy.
to read as:
Using as a reference:
https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TJN-Core-Funding-Prospectus.pdf
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It is managed by its member organizations as well as by individual militants. It ensures the visibility of member organizations in their activities and participation in the decision-making of the Network. It operates in accordance with the principles of participatory democracy, its empowerment, transparency, accountability and equal opportunities. TJN encourages and supports, when necessary, member organizations and individuals to participate in decision making. The Network supports the development of national TJN campaigns, particularly in developing countries. The activities of the Network are coordinated by an international secretariat. The Network includes:
national, regional and local civil society (specially important)
development organizations and several NGOs
religious groups
unions
researchers
journalists
economists
financial professionals
to read as:
Using as a reference:
https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TJN-Core-Funding-Prospectus.pdf
Taxjusticenet (talk) 14:39, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: . . I have made some of the above changes with changes to the language to ensure that it is WP encyclopedic.  I am aware of the TJN activities and am happy that these changes are fair.  I you want to discuss any further changes, I am watching this page now, so will see any questions that you raise.  I would encourage you to paste onto the Talk Page any independent high-quality third-party references (e.g. coverage by The Guardian, Financial Times, etc.), that could be used in addition for referencing.  I am fully confident that the TJN is a notable organisation (there are lots of WP:RS covering the TJN giving it WP:GNG), however, it would be helpful for this article to include more of these references. thanks Britishfinance (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 15-FEB-2019