Talk:Certified first responder

message: Are there certified first responders outside the United States? If this is a US term only, this fact should be mentioned in the very first paragraph. THe article itself is interesting. <KF> 21:29, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! <KF> 21:41, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hello,
can someone tell a poor french boy whether there is a difference between a CFR and an EMT-B? I read that "The first responder training is intended to fill the gap between First Aid and EMT-Basic", but which are these differences?
Cdang 13:06, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFR and EMT-B 

message: This technique is no longer taught in most if not all first responder courses. Mike (T C)  05:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NYC EMT-B here. I was certified in 2019 and I was taught the use of Nasopharyngeal Airways by my instructor. Our New York State protocols were renewed on 25 February 2022. According to the state protocols, Nasopharyngeal Airways (NPA) are still considered a viable airway intervention. According to our city protocols, also referred to as REMAC Pre-Hospital Treatment Protocols, which went into effect on 1 January 2022, the use of an NPA when needed is encouraged unless contraindicated. Contraindications include when there is significant facial trauma or any facial burns. KMorales34 (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nasopharyngeal Airway 

message: The American Red Cross conducts a course titled "Emergency Response" that fits this definition.
...advanced first aid (as taught by the Red Cross) ...
...associations, including the French Red cross, ...
Slight bias IMHO :-/ 
If there is no objection, May we investigate and add other providers ? exit2dos2000 14:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Outside the U.S.

message: The article lists the CFR in four countries now and has extensive info on some, so it's not US centric anymore. Change if you disagree. Fr33kMan (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed globalize tag 

message: Different adjectives are added prior to the term "First Responder" depending on the country or class of responder (such as Certified, Medical or Advanced).  Consequently, I think this thread should be moved to First Responder but alas I am a lowly IP and can do little.  Also, the amount of training required can vary more than 40 to 60 hours.  In Canada, St. John Ambulance has three different levels of First Responder which require 24, 40 and 80 hours of training respectively.--72.1.222.61 (talk) 01:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renamed the article to First Responder? 

message: The administration of emergency oxygen is a common skill for First Responders.  The inaccurate statement "First responders are allowed to administer oxygen under an EMT basic or higher only." has been removed.  Review of the source link reveals that the PDF document referenced was not paginated sequentially but by section, and no reference to EMT-Basics supervising first responders was found in the document.  The authority to use emergency medical oxygen in the USA derives from Food and Drug Administration (FDA) guidelines as well as local and state EMS agencies and guidelines.  I encourage the unknown person, presumably an EMT, who contributed this statement to look at their nearest O2 tank and read the O2 label where it says "For emergency use only when administered by properly trained personnel for oxygen deficiency and resuscitation. For all other medical applications, Rx Only."  See also http://www.lifecorporation.com/cder.html.   19 Nov 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.134.48 (talk) 01:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was the person who inserted that reference which clearly showed that Oxygen therapy was not part of the DOT First Responder Protocols, thereby implying that any oxygen therapy would have to be done under the supervision of an EMT or higher.  For the record, I am not an EMT, I am a First Responder Instructor in Canada where First Responders are allowed to administer Oxygen (which leaves me wondering why American First Responders aren't!) Frmatt (talk) 02:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxygen 

message: Certified first responders are very important in Magen David Adom (Israel's ambulance service). Many a time the ambulances in Israel have at least one CFR, quite often more. It is also important to note that CFRs with MDA are always (I believe) volunteers. Perhaps there should be an addition explaining how MDA uses CFRs as this would most likely be unique to other countries as these CFRs might be considered by some as being treated as 'almost' paramedics. HostDavid (talk) 20:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Israel

message: I've already edited the Certified first responder page with other names they are called (Emergency Medical Responders, Medical First Responders, First Responders). Most of the info is on that page anyway. Let's get the admins to merge the two topics. (I actually edited that...don't steal my work - Bostonguy2000)
:I don't think these topics are necessarily the same, and it is not as easy as just adding all of these names to this one article and claiming them as synonymous. They probably should not be merged. EMR is a NREMT certification, and deserves an article in its own right. CFR is a certification specific to NY State. There are 3 questions that need to be answered before merging/deleting/renaming articles takes place:
:# What is the name of the people who provide first aid response for emergencies?
:# Are these people all "certified?"
:# What is a generalized term to include all people who respond to medical emergencies (first responders, EMT, paramedic, etc)?
:Before changing around the content and articles, additional articles including First responder, Community first responder, Certified first responder, and Emergency medical responder need to be considered, and scope/purpose/topic of each should be defined.
:Currently, Emergency medical responder serves as a generalized term referring to any person who responds to an emergency. There is no specific location where the NREMT EMR certification is housed. Certified first responder is mostly about medical first responders. Is the term "certified first responder" even in common use? (Google doesn't have too many hits for it once you exclude New York.) Does it imply "medical" or "first aid?" Perhaps "Medical first responder" is a better title for this article, as not all first responders to medical emergencies are certified. Or maybe move most of this content into the recently resurrected First responder article under a medical section, and have a separate section for types of certifications. Once all of this is sorted out, all of these articles could be made better while reducing overlap of content. --Scott Alter (talk) 08:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge "Emergency Medical Responder" with "Certified First Responder"