Talk:Hussein

message: I recently made a meme in which I used Barack Hussein Obama's full name on Reddit. One person had objections because I used his middle name Hussein. I decided to search Hussein to see if Obama was listed. I am disappointed that he is not. As a foreign citizen, I don't understand why so many people hesitate to use his middle name. It's just a name. This page contains references to obscure companies that have the name Hussein in their title. I think excluding a US president whose first term is almost over is inconsistent, as he will soon be part of history. The 'recentism' argument is therefore nullified. Franklin Delano Roosevelt is listed under the Delano surname page even though it is only his middle name. The precedent has been set to include US presidents based on their middle name on name pages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delano  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeetroyJnkns (talk • contribs) 10:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  44th and current President of the United States 

message: Many of these people on the list don't have Hussein as a first or last name, and it only comes out like this in Western translations.
Hussein was a name given to him, therefore it is a given name, whether or not it is his middle name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.185.205 (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. It's only his middle name, and listing it here is only playing to fear-mongering, and Republican-ized politics that goes against WP:NPOV. Dr. Cash (talk) 18:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: If you continue to vandalize the article, you will be banned. Dr. Cash (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

text: If you want to contribute to wikipedia in a productive manner, then get an account. All anonymous IPs are nothing better than vandals, and need to be banned immediately. There's no point to hiding behind your pathetic IP address. Dr. Cash (talk) 05:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's keep this on topic. Talk pages are for legitimate discussions of the article, not personal attacks or political debates. ~~ Meeples (talk)(email) 05:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Ok, fine. Seeing as how every anonymous IP vandal in the country is going to add him to the page between now and November, fine. He can be there. I don't fucking care anymore. But make sure you keep the list alphabetical; don't add Obama to the first or last listing because that's out of order, and listing him there is drawing more attention to his listing and thereby violating WP:NPOV. Dr. Cash (talk) 20:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obama needs to be on here 

message: If you want to contribute to wikipedia in a productive manner, then get an account. 
All anonymous IPs are nothing better than vandals, and need to be banned immediately. 
There's no point to hiding behind your pathetic IP address. Dr. Cash (talk) 05:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is, Nixon and FDR are famous US presidents. Barack Obama is not president, only a candidate. If he becomes president, then it would be appropriate to add him to the list. Note that Hillary Rodham Clinton is not on the Diane page, nor is John McCain on Sidney, yet Bill Clinton is on Jefferson. (I'm sure you could find other notable examples.) Adding Obama on the list now is not so much fear mongering, it just seems inconsistent and unnecessary. -- Kip the Dip (talk) 05:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I just looked for another example, and it turns out former presidential candidate John Kerry is listed on Forbes (disambiguation). I suppose it's because "Forbes" is not a widely known and/or usual name to many people, thus making Kerry's middle name notable. By the same logic, I'm now for adding Barack Obama on the Husayn page. -- Kip the Dip (talk) 05:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Will you hear it from me? 

message: Why is BHO I listed on here?  He is definately not a notable person.PonileExpress (talk) 05:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...he isn't?  We gave him his own page, which I think I'd call prima facie evidence. Twin Bird (talk) 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the future President's dad listed on here? 

message: There seems to be some dispute over whether Hussein in Barrack Hussein Obama is a given name or a surname. I argue that it goes under surnames, as it is a family name. I have therefore reverted the page back to say this. Please state your reasoning for changing this, before reverting this again.TheFreeloader (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a middle name, which in the US, is considered part of the given name.  I'm not sure if that's true in Kenya (where his father, the first to have the name, was born).  Twin Bird (talk) 18:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. You might be right. His grandfather had Hussein as first name, not middle name, so it's probably not a family name then. Also, his children aren't called Hussein either.TheFreeloader (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barrack Obama - is Hussein a given name or surname 

message: I strongly believe the current president and his late father should be on this page.  It doesn't violate NPOV.  It's their middle name.  The fact that there are no other notable people here with it as a middle name is an oversight, and if anyone can think of any others, they should be added as well.  It doesn't play into "fear-mongering Republican-ized politics," and frankly, citing that as a concern of whether to list someone's actual, legal name seems a little POV-ish to me, not to mention feeding into anti-Islamic prejudice.  Twin Bird (talk) 18:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yes, Obama should be here. 

message: While the etymology of the Barack Hussein Obama is essentially correct, names also have implicit cultural meanings. In Arabic and the modern times, while Hussein may mean good, or handsome, it is attributed regularly to those are in leadership and power e.g. Sadaam Hussein, King Hussein of Jordan; in the Saudi family of Arabia (Saudia Arabia) a number of emirs/kings have used the name for decades. The name is, in recent times, has come to mean Prince (similar to the "Good Prince" in literature). 
The name Barack is the same name of Mohammed's white horse, he reportedly road into heaven from the city of Jerusalem. Obama is the tribe from which his family is derived. This is very common in nearly all countries, particularly, the European culture. Three names were necessary to distinguish from common names e.g. Smith, Jones, Johnson, etc.
What can we deceiver from this: Perhaps: Barack = Name of White Horse; Hussein = good Prince; Obama = ? That is, "The good Prince who rides on the White Horse of Mohammed. Or the "chosen Prince of Mohammed".
72.129.103.241 (talk) 01:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of the name Barack Hussein Obama 

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