Talk:Allentown, Pennsylvania

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thread_title: Archiving of discussion page material

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Allentown Billy Joel.jpg

message: I can understand noting that Allentown can receive some NYC stations in the copy, but isn't including the whole "Television Stations in the greater New York City area" box in this article a tad bit of an overkill?Alphageekpa (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Given no support or rationalization provided in the two weeks since I posted the above, I've since removed said box.  Alphageekpa (talk) 12:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Television Stations in the greater New York City area

message: This section is valuable content, yet is quite unwieldy tacked on at the end of the article as such.  I'd like to propose one or two possible ideas for the handling of this section.  First, if these items warrant addition expansion, break them out onto their own page.  See List of sites of interest in Philadelphia as an example.  I'm thinking that this might be the way to go.  Otherwise, I find it odd that items on the list are not incorporated into the body of the article.  For example, both Civic Little Theatre and Yocco's can move up into Culture.  Hess' can move up into Shopping.  Etc.  Honestly, the solution might be both.  Thoughts? Alphageekpa (talk) 12:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Landmarks and popular locations

message: Regarding this recently added section, I am surprised that one can include it without the mention of Hess' and the downtown shopping area, and the "migration" of "downtown shopping" to the suburbs.  It also should be clearly noted that largest shopping areas (Lehigh Valley Mall, Whitehall Mall) are *outside* of the city.  I don't think there's harm in mentioning them, it just needs to be done within the right context.  In addition, the bullet points should be folded-down/restructured into prose.  Just my two cents. Alphageekpa (talk) 12:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I just wrote this section and posted it to the article.  Needs an image (a photograph of Hess's would be PERFECT).  In hindsight, I also need to (somewhere) fit in the Farmer's Market at the Allentown Fairgrounds.  I think it also needs a stronger lead-in sentence to establish the importance of Hess's. Anyhow, as always, I welcome comments and edits to improve this addition. Alphageekpa (talk) 12:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Shopping

message: Just completed article on Arbogast & Bastian (A&B).  Would welcome feedback, corrections, copyediting, etc. Also need suggestions on best place to mention A&B in Allentown article. Alphageekpa (talk) 21:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbogast & Bastian

message: The Wikipedia:Peer review/Arbogast & Bastian/archive1 for the Arbogast & Bastian is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated!  I've listed this article for peer review because it has been significantly expanded over the past week, and feedback/comments for improvement and development would be appreciated. I realize the history of the company is relatively sparse for the majority of the company's history - a limitation due in part to A&B having been a privately-held corporation, so most material available has to do with either the founding and early history in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, or the demise of the company in the 1980s. Anyhow, thanks in advance! Alphageekpa (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review for the [[Arbogast & Bastian]] now open

message: On March 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with  from the article Arbogast & Bastian.  Alphageekpa (talk) 22:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK for Arbogast & Bastian

message: On April 19, Arbogast & Bastian was promoted to Good Article status.  Alphageekpa (talk) 11:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbogast & Bastian now GA

message: According to here, Allentown was twice awarded the All-America City Award (1962 and 1974-75) by the National Civic League.  Might be worthy of a mention in the article.  Alphageekpa (talk) 11:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: All-America City Award

message: Allentown is the gymnastics capital of Pennsylvania, that is where the elite gym Parkettes National Gymnastics Training Center is located. Texas is still the world's center of gymnastics.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.42.181.228 (talk) 20:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Another nickname for Allentown

message: PAWiki: this is what I removed:
lehighvalleylive.com: This is a news aggregate blog.
usaelectionpolls.com: A 2nd hand reprint of demographic information from The US Census bureau (which is already linked to).
ustravelweather.com: current weather isn't encyclopedic, even if the link actually worked.
blogs.mcall.com/allentown: a blog.
I was also on the fence about removing the 2 other links to the Morning Call: current news isn't encyclopedic, the newpaper is referenced in the media section, and there an appropriate EL at The Morning Call.
ccwaters (talk) 15:26, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholeheartedly agree with trimming down this linkfarm.  Please take a look at larger cities, like Philadelphia and New York City, as examples of what I believe should be followed.  I agree with all of your deletions, ccwaters.  Alphageekpa (talk) 18:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The links certainly should not include companies or other corporate/organizational links not directly related to the city as a whole, and it's good those were removed.  I thought the USAElectionPolls site included some useful, encyclopedic information from differing sources, but I do not feel strongly one way or the other necessarily.  PAWiki (talk) 19:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: This section is based entirely on one source and greater balance, other viewpoints, are called for. The basic premise expressed is that Hamilton Mall killed the center city. That's simply not true. HM was an attempt to stave off the malling of America. It was too little too late and a Don Quixote dream, for sure, but neither the construction nor the concept of the mall can be blamed for the downtown's demise. For example, Hamilton Mall was a partnership between the city and the owners of the city's downtown businesses, yet this section indicates that the stores fell victim to a pie-in-the-sky idea of "city planners." The city government could not have done anything without the support of the city's power structure, namely the families that owned the downtown's major business: Hess's, Leh's, The Morning Call, Bohlen Gross & Moyer, etc. And no matter what, nobody could have done anything to thwart the impact of the LV Mall. Accordingly, I've placed a Onesource template on the section. Allreet (talk) 07:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hamilton Mall - Onesource Template

message: The following is in regard to removing the reference to "86th most dangerous city"
:The citation refers to CQ Press rankings.  CQ Press has stated that as of 2008 they no longer use the terms "safe' or "dangerous" with regard to their rankings.  Their explanation is here:
::http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2009/Purpose_of_Book.pdf
:Further, the FBI, as of 2004, no longer considers crime ranking valid. "The consensus of the FBI and its advisory groups is that the Crime Index no longer served its purpose and that a more meaningful index should be developed." Please see explanation (by CQ Press) here:
::http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2009/Methodology.pdf
:CQ Press continues to provide the rankings and that is what is cited in the Allentown article.  I think it is reasonable to leave the citation there but with the removal of "dangerous city" reference.  I believe the wording I used for the citation is more factual and less editorial, i.e. the rankings are merely a compilation of the actual crime data as reported to the FBI in UCR and that is what we are stating. There is consensus among CQ Press and the FBI that inferring "danger" or "safety" from the rankings is editorial/opinion.
:::Peteycat (talk) 14:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime Section

message: Most cities do not have a section similar to this, and I think Allentown should follow suit. Not only does it barely add to the article, but many of the examples are of questionable importance themselves. Does it really matter that the All-American rejects filmed parts of their video in an amusement park in the area? Maybe it could fit in the Dorney Park article itself, but not here. I think a few of these should stay - especially the Joel one (as it's the only reason many people I've met around America know of my hometown) - but could be worked in more intelligently. I propose deletion of the section; any thoughts? 66.152.138.61 (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think it's a trivia section of junk and anecdotes that doesn't belong in an encyclopedic article.  Billy Joel's "Allentown" should be in a section of it's own, however the rest of what is in that section needs to be deleted.  Bwmoll3 (talk) 18:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed.  It had, at one point, grown so lengthy and unwieldy that it was broken out onto its own standalone page, which was nominated for deletion and subsequently deleted.  Most of that page's content then made its way back into the main article.  In is indeed mostly trivial in nature, and in my opinion, fair game for deletion.  Alphageekpa (talk) 12:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Resolved the issue. Ref: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trivia sections) Bwmoll3 (talk) 13:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: In Popular Culture

message: What hours are the Philly drivers license centers open? 204.195.130.106 (talk) 00:07, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. I didn't mean to ask that question here. 204.195.130.106 (talk) 00:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  drivers licenses 

message: Can someone in Allentown take a good photo of the Center Square Soldier's and Sailor's Monument that can be used here on Wikipedia ?    Bwmoll3 (talk) 16:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo Request

message: I noticed the table of contents was located in the demographics section. In other articles, however, they are located at the top of the page. Could you fix that? Thank you. Plantedpotroast (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contents section 

message: "Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative", per MOS:IMAGES.
#The infobox image is a compilation of images already found in the article.  Duplicate images are irrelevant and should be removed.  Should the infobox image be replaced, or should the duplicate images be removed from the article?
#Should the image of the Lehigh Valley International Airport be removed?  The airport is not located in Allentown.
#The photo of The Morning Call building (on right -->) does not appear significant or relevant.
Thank you for your input.  Magnolia677 (talk) 11:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

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