Talk:Merano

message: Shouldn't this be at Merano instead of Meran-Merano? Wiki naming policy is to have the official name listed- as the city is in Italy, this would therefore be the Italian name. The intro would therefore read "Merano (German: Meran) is a city..." Of course, the German-population majority would also be listed. Olessi 15:17, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was not aware that the other South Tyrolian localities had the same naming style. IMO, simply Merano is best for the article name, but I don't want to cause an edit war. The current system has led to some interesting names, like Lana-Lana.  Olessi 17:35, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also say keep the current double-name format, we do not want to start an editing war over language, Wikipedia is not the place for such things. Gryffindor 09:06, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just call it Meran, most South Tirolers would call it that. Plus German is an official language of South Tyrol.
The statements found in this article regarding language use in that part of Tyrol formerly belonging to Austria are not correct.
Check the 'History' chapter:
'Nevertheless, all originally tyrolean geographic names were prohibited and exchanged through Italianised names (even surnames lost their validity until World War II). After 1945, it became one of the most important sites of tourism in the region.'
Now go to
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chapter 'Today' and compare. According to my knowledge, what the author says there about the status of the respective languages reflects the situation. 
In other words: The dominating language is german, and so the german names have survived - also officially. There is an italian minority, and they use their italian names for the places.
What about correcting the language statements in the Meran article?
Michael Laudahn 17:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: Südtirol is not Italy! Even though it belongs (currently) to Italy the language is predominantly German and not Italian. 
Hence, I don't think the Italian name should be used in the English wikipedia. 
Btw. The name Merano was invented by the Italian fascists in the 1920s. 
--91.63.167.111 (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: * you are ignorant and a liar.  i'm impressed noclador can at least set you straight on this utterly out of control German mentality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.129.139 (talk) 05:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  1) Many names were invented by Ettore Tolomei form 1906 onwards and in 1927 then taken over by the fascist authorities, HOWEVER Merano was not - it is along with other names of the major cities a historic name and was in use at a far earlier time, then even Tolomeis birth. 2) Wikipedia naming convention states to use the most common name in English which is in fact Merano 3) therefore no change is required and no change will be done. noclador (talk) 14:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 2010 

message: 1. an article about a south tyrolian village should be named like the majority of its population calls it, and the other language just in italics.. what would lead to for example: Bolzano, Salorno, Bruneck, Brixen, Meran
this would be the most evident solution
or 2. the article should be named with both the german and italian names, and which one first, depending on how its called by the majority of its inhabitants but not with hyphen in between but with slash.. what would lead to Meran / Merano, Bruneck / Brunico Bolzano / Bozen
i dont understand why not everyone comes to this solution when thinking about it
of course it should be named either how its called by the majority of its inhabitants, or by both names, with the more used first... so why Merano?
Jadran91 (talk) 03:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because this is the version of the Wikipdia in the English language and the first rule we follow is to give a place the name most commonly used in contemporary English writing, where that exists. (See WP:UE). So Florence, rather than Firenze, and Vienna rather than Wien. I say contemporary English because we don’t call Trento Trent (despite the famous congress) or Livorno Leghorn. (Obviously this leaves scope for disagreement: should Apulia be moved to Puglia, or Lazio moved to Latium? That can be argued, and there will never be 100% agreement: personally I would choose Puglia, Lazio, Leghorn and Trent.) In the case of South Tyrol/Alto Adige/Südtirol/[whatever it is called in Ladin], previous (and horrifically protracted) discussions have determined that Bozen and Meran are most commonly called Bolzano and Merano in modern English, so we use those. Most (perhaps all) of the other places in South Tyrol don’t have any particularly strong bias when writing in English, and we have decided to use the name used by the majority of the inhabitants. (German, or occasionally Ladin. (Yes I know Bolzano is mostly Italophone, but we have already named that on the basis of English usage!)) We could have decided to use slashed names, or to have used the Italian names because they are all in Italy, but local majority language seemed to be the best. Naming disputes get absurdly heated, I am afraid, but I hope that this explanation of the current convention helps!Ian Spackman (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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