Talk:Space Runaway Ideon

message: I feel there should be some mention of the fact that there is debate whether Neon Genesis Evangelion is an homage of Space Runaway Ideon, or if it is a blatant plagiarism.  Tomino himself has publicly accused Anno of the latter. Gunso 22:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Evangelion: Homage or Plagiarism?

message: Its been a subject of debate, but in the end the arguments are all invalid. The Ideon ending is NOT triggered by how often the Ideon goes to its maximum gauge level. The ending is triggered by two things
*Weither the player takes the "Ideon route" in the mid 50's instead of the "Gunbuster route".
*A certain decision made in scenerio 56 when the Ideon route is taken. One averts the ending, while the other initiates it.
This has been proven by extensive playthrough by multiple players of the game. On my second and third playthrough I abused Ideon's gauge system relentlessly, and saved right before the Ideon/Gunbuster path split. When I took the Gunbuster route, nothing happened. Went on as usual. When taking the Ideon route, when choosing the decision to avert the Ideon Ending it was averted...and taking the one that triggers it as usual triggered it. 
It has NOTHING to do with the Ideon Gauge. Its a redundant argument, please don't continue it. The games' already been played in and out....we'd know by now...--Kiyosuki 13:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Triggering the Ideon ending in Super Robot Wars Alpha 3

message: The following comment includes some good info, but also a lot of gushing that lacks a source.
The titular mecha of the series, the Ideon itself is widely regarded as one of the most powerful giant robots in Japanese Animation history, if not the most powerful. Anime has seen a lot of very powerful mecha over the years but very few if any can boast the destructive capability the Ideon possesses. Powered by the mysterious sentient energy Ide, the Ideon's combat prowess becomes incredible as it see's more combat. The ide also powers Ideons' strongest weapons such as the Black Hole Cannon, Ideon Sword, and Ideon Gun. At a poignant point in the series, the Ideon uses Ideon Sword to actually cut an entire planet in half, and Ideon Gun destroys pretty much anything in its path. Some anime mecha come rather close to matching Ideons' power such as Gunbuster's titular mecha, but generally no other mech in Anime history has matched the destruction Ideon can cause.
Maybe the following whould be more appropriate, doesn't fit well in the trivia section but fits worse everywhere else:
The Ideon is portrayed as perhaps the most powerful giant robot in all anime. At one point in the series, for instance, the Ideon uses its sword to cut an entire planet in half. This level of destructive power is akin to only a few other giant robots in anime, such as that of the Gunbuster series.
—Tarnas 05:15, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorting out good info

message: :We need to integrate the trivia section into the main article...how about creating topics highlighting the "Themes", "Concepts" and "Weapons" of Ideon? We also need a mech list as well. Terek 00:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I'd say we don't need a mecha list. That belongs on a fanpage, not an encyclopedic article. Kouban 01:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topics 

message: I think the trivia section is quickly becoming a mess filled with a lot of OR.  The consensus on wikipedia has been that Trivia sections should generally not exist, but rather that the material be spread out in relevant parts of the article.  While I think the trivia section definately contains material that is of value to this article, I think we should consider moving all the content out of that section and into either existing sections, or create new sections (for example, a section discussing the Ideon robot itself may be of value; its probably not enough at this point to warrant its own article). I feel that the stuff talking about whether Ideon is the most powerful robot ever should likely be removed entirely unless we can find any sort of reference for it.  This is coming off as a discussion that would be had at an anime messageboard.  Thoughts? Quiddity99 (talk) 03:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree entirely. Kouban (talk) 01:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section