Talk:Civil engineering/Archive 1

message: This page doesn't seem to describe the civil engineering I know and practice.  
In my world most civil engineers are:
*Site designers who prepare construction plans for the interface of construction projects with the real world.  They do paving, grading, water, sewer, drainge, and irrigation designs and work under architects.
*Land development engineers who prepare construction plans for paving, grading, water, sewer, drainage, and irrigation for subdivisions as prime consultants.
Some civil engineers specialize in such disciplines as:
*Water or sewer systems and networks master planning.
*Flood control analysis and planning
Structural engineering is a sub-discipline, but isn't a majority segment to my knowledge. Hawstom 22:56, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: What is Civil Engineering

message: What are they? Please list in article, I'm guessing: education, experience, examination. Steven McCrary 15:33, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
*Tertiary qualifications are post-secondary school, as you have guessed. It goes primary school, secondary school, then tertiary, where tertiary corresponds to university studies. I'm not sure what an American friendly term would be.--Commander Keane 02:34, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
:*Tertiary?  I think you're talking about what we usually just call "college".  ;)  Education in the U.S. gets called Elementary School, Middle School/Jr. High, High School, College, and Grad School.  Truth be told, I don't even know without going to look it up (or at least thinking real hard) whether Secondary School means High School or College.  Lousy modern mass media interfering with the evolution of English into multiple new languages like British, Canadamerican, and Austrokiwi.  The Literate Engineer 02:40, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tertiary qualifications

message: The impression I get from reading this section is that Civil Engineers in the U.S. are handed a license with their undergraduate diploma.  I recall at least two licensing exams for CE's after graduating from college. Can someone provide more background here?  --Fss 01:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not entirely correct. Each state in the US requires engineers to be licensed in that state to practice in that state. All states offer some level of comity to other states, accepting the other states' licenses as proof of having passed the exam and any other common requirements. However, most states have their own "law and ethics" exam, which is usually a take-home exam designed to get the candidate to actually read the booklet. As far as I know, most states require this part to be redone prior to licensing. The other big exception is that California requires two additional exams - Surveying and Seismic Principles - to obtain a CE license; candidates with CEs from other states must pass those exams to get California licensing. There is no comity. I've heard that Washington state also has a seismic exam, and does not accept any other state's license in lieu of that exam, even California's. Argyriou 16:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Licensing

message: I noticed this page didn't have any images, so I scoured WP:FP and came up with one of the Falkirk Wheel. I didn't want to have a picture of a bridge, which is something of a cliche subject for Civil Engineering, so I think this one is interesting. Does anyone have any ideas for the rest of the page? Leithp (talk) 13:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: A significant sub-discipline not currently addressed is failure & damage analysis of various kinds and mitigation.
*Is this discipline itself broken up into areas such as structural, hydro, etc.?  If so, then I'd instead classify Failure Analysis & Mitigation as a sub-sub-discipline of the more generalised disciplines we currently have.  --Thisisbossi 19:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failure analysis and mitigation 

message: Isnt all engineering except the engineering carried out by military personel civil engineering? --Dahlis 20:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civil engineering in its original meaning 

message: (moved this here from main article) --Thisisbossi 10:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While I understand the desire to remove and clean this note from the page by placing it into discussion, I still feel a very valid point is being made and the layman doesn't look at the discussion.  What about the questions raised on the proper method for having this conversation?  I'm new to the edit process, would it be possible for you to put a note declaring this open letter was moved to discussion on the main page.  I think this is a conversation that is page one and shouldn't be buried on page 6 of metro.FOK SD OA 16:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing against you nor your statement, for I actually think it to be a good idea that engineering organisations push for greater education amongst the general public; but bear in mind that this website is an encyclopedia: intended for factual information rather than feuding, adverts, or (as in this case) calls to action.  You are welcome to spread your word by way of discussions, talk pages, or established engineering networks (such as professional listservs).  Of course, you are also encouraged to be bold and make edits yourself -- don't be too discouraged if someone moves your stuff around (it happens to all of us ... such as my losing battle to get rid of Water Resources Engineering in this very article). --Thisisbossi 17:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attention Fellow Engineers 

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