Talk:National Treasure (film)

message: Will the person who keeps adding "The good guy in the movie use Google and the bad guys use Yahoo!" please stop adding that? Ben, Riley, and Abigail never even use the Internet in the movie, much less Google. I've deleted that part 3 times already, please stoppp!
Actually they do use the internet several times for reference including in the internet cafe and it is Yahoo, not google.  Alexkraegen (talk) 19:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: trivia

message: User:Eric Urban This article seems to be rather critical of the movie I'm adding a NPOV notice.
It looks like it was re written, although I beleive the content which was removed has some value. Does a page exist on the subject of a conspiracy theory surrounding freemasons?
-- User: Eric Urban 7:15 PM CST 11/28/04
"The villains of the film are mostly British, with one American and one Irishman." The supposed Irishman is actually Scottish, there seems to be some confusion over the accent. I am delaying editing this until I can confirm that this is not a script reference. 
86.42.159.7 20:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Critical

message: The greatest adventure history has ever revealed. Is hollywood really that stupid and bereft of imagination? --Tagishsimon (talk)
:Yes. 8^) Securiger 01:12, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yeah. :) But it was a good movie. Minami-chan 01:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The tagline

message: Article is renamed to "National Treasure (movie)" to free up national treasure which will deal with national treasures in general. See for example National treasure of Japan. Stbalbach 6 July 2005 04:48 (UTC)
:Wholly unnecessary move since national treasure and National Treasure can co-exist. Besides National Treasure redirected to the movie. Cburnett 05:52, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
::Problem is the names are so close that people are confusing the two, see "what links here", it's a mix-up. The (film) tag makes it clear and hard to confuse -- Stbalbach 21:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cleaned up all the dab problems. A single capital letter can't be the only difference between the article titles it is far too easy to confuse. Is the US Constitution a "National Treasure"? Or is it a "National treasure"? Further, one could make a case that National Treasure is a proper noun in certain cases and thus fully capitalized (like the difference between www or WWW.) -- Stbalbach 21:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renamed 

message: The movie claims that the Knights Templar discovered the treasure underneath Solomon's Temple.  This seems like a particularly outrageous claim in a movie full of outrageous claims, since the Temple of Solomon was destroyed by the Babylonians in ~580 BC.  Perhaps it would have been more believable if the narration had said that they discovered the foundation of Solomon's Temple, and the treasure beneath that.
Aaronimo 18:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your point? The purpose of the Talk Page is NOT to bash the movie - it's to discuss possible changes to the article. If you think it's such an "outrageous" claim, don't watch the movie. SkittlzAnKomboz 23:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Tis a good refutation that SkittlzAnKomboz presents. It's easier to call it "Solomon's Temple" rather than saying "Underneath the ground where Solomon's Temple Was"; just because they don't specify that it was the under the ruins doesn't mean that they didn't mean that or anything. BTW, did you ever get the memo that this was a fictional movie? Microbyte 01:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "solomon's temple" 

message: What is the line from the Declaration of Indep. in the movie?
:"But after a long train of abuses and ursurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such goverment and provide new guards for future security" It's at Wikisource too. --Firehawk1717 05:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Line from the declaration

message: The trivia section claims the United States and Ireland are "british based." Regardless of poor wording, I am sure many Irish would be extremely offended and largely correct if someone claimed Ireland was some how "based" on The British Empire, Britain, or England. I changed the wording to "both of which were at one point a part of the British Empire" from "both of which are British based nations".
Offended or not, it would be correct. I suspect the offence would be taken mostly by those "Irish americans" whose knowledge of Ireland is as weak as their actual 'Irishness'. 
When Ireland was part of the British Empire, it fully participated in those actions people rush to condemn. The two nations are not as different as you love to assume.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.245.198 (talk) 23:08, August 27, 2007 (UTC) 
It would not be correct, Ireland did not fully participate in the actions of the British Empire. The Protestants, on the other hand, who considered themselves to be British, certainly did. Sbfenian1916 (talk) 16:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "British Based Nations" 

message: The summary seems to contain a large amount of spoilers. I will trim down the details a bit, no reason to spill all of the movie's highlights. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.3.154.118 (talk) 16:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary 

message: Has anyone else noticed the large amount of product placement in the movie?  Distinct examples: Cage's character magnifies the $100 bill with an Aquafina bottle, Cage's team uses Hewlett-Packard computers, the team buys new clothes at Urban Outfitters.  Less noticeably, one of Bean's henchmen is wearing a The North Face jacket with a large logo.  The instances that show distinct brands do not contribute to  character development (like Cage's father's Cadillac, which shows his affluence).  The product placement, especially for Aquafina and Urban Outfitters, is blatant.  Anyone else agree?  -  Gamma632 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.253.103.173 (talk) 03:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Product Placement 

message: I delinked the word "Britain" in this article because it linked to a disambiguation page. Wikilinks are not supposed to link to dab pages; they're supposed to link to relevant articles. Depending on the age of the artifacts referred to, "Britian" could be piped to Prehistoric Britain, Iron Age Britain, Roman Britain, Sub-Roman Britain, Britain in the Middle Ages, or possibly, Great Britain. Someone familiar with the film can check the articles and see which one is relevant if he would like to link it. --Steven J. Anderson 23:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britain 

message: At no point is Abigail kidnapped. After they find a safe place after the chase, she is discussing that the Declaration needs to be returned. At one point Ben gives here the Declaration to hold on to and she tries to run away. Ben catches her, rangles for a second, takes the Declaration back and tells her to "shoo". She says that she is not leaving the Declaration behind AND she knows where they are going next. So her future involvement is voluntary. There is no coercion made by Ben even though he knows she knows where they are going.--12.28.101.34 16:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: kidnapped

message: "The movie states that Charles Carroll was a Freemason, although this is highly unlikely due to the fact that Carroll was a Catholic, and Catholics are forbidden from being Freemasons."
I personally know a freemason who's Catholic...--Capt sisko 18:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, as far as we know, Carroll was not actually a Freemason.  [This] page lists the founding fathers who known to have been members, and he isn't on the list. But for the sake of argument, he could have been.  While the Church banned Catholics from becoming Freemasons in the 1730s, the Freemasons do not reciprocate... as far as the fraternity is concerned Catholics may join if they wish to... and we all know that some Catholics are willing to be "somewhat selective" as to which Church teachings they obey.  Had Carroll wished to become a Freemason, he certainly could have.  Finally... this is a movie... a work of fiction.  Reality does not matter. Blueboar (talk) 16:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: We are still talking about the movie that presents the Freemasons as an organisation whose sole purpose and intent was to smuggle treasure to America, aren't we? TomorrowTime (talk) 11:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia - comment 

message: I'm not a regular, so I don't feel competent to change this, but I do question this passage from the "inconsistencies" section:
A fact that would certainly make the whole movie impossible, is that the bell tower was several hundred feet shorter at the time of Benjamin Franklin. It was built taller in the mid 19th century. This means the shadow of the tower would not land on the specific brick as depicted in the movie. 
I can't find any information online about the height of the bell tower, OR about an addition in the 19th century.  But just from LOOKING at Independence Hall, it seems obvious to me that the current tower is not "several hundred" feet tall, and thus could never have been "several hundred feet shorter."
:According to our own article on Independence Hall (United States), you are correct in that the current height is the same as it has been since construction in the mid 1700s, at around 90 feet, certainly not 'Hundreds'...  --Jmeden2000 18:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How tall is Independence Hall's tower? 

message: In the shaft leading down to the treasure room, as they are dangling from the rotted wooden staircases, I noticed metal nails (shiny ones) as the boards separated.  Did they use metal nails back then?  Would they be shiny silver? or did they use wooden nails/dowels instead?  Bytebear (talk) 06:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They did have hand crafted iron nails back then... However, it is unlikely that they would still be all sharp and shiny today.  Unless, of course, they were using those special "Masonic" nails (could this be the key to the plot of the third movie?  Pyramid Power is real!)Blueboar (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film Flub? 

message: Actors Ed Harris and Helen Mirren both had significant parts in this movie, and yet are not mentioned in the movie article here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.109.14.158 (talk) 07:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither of them were in this movie. ColdFusion650 (talk) 13:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's right, they were in the second movie, not this one. 12:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ed Harris and Helen Mirren

message: There is no section attaining to the reception of the film. Would Somebody please add this section?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.236.91.159 (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
* Oppose we just talked about this in January! What's changed? 70.29.208.247 (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: There was nothing suggesting the map at the end led to the bedroom. That's an interpretation, not a fact, and should be removed. For all we know, she hid his car keys or wallet and gave him the map to find it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.148.63.23 (talk) 04:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bedroom? 

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message: National Treasure (film)
Treasures of a multinational multiracial nation?
Do you even know what a nation is, a race?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.174.114.63 (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treasures of a multinational multiracial nation?