Talk:Tomb Raider: Underworld

message: Has there been any confirmation by Eidos that this game will be released on Blu-ray, or has this been assumed from the platforms it will be available on? ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They haven't even 'officially' confirmed the title. I just wrote Blu-ray (and DVD) because of the platforms they've confirmed. clicketyclickyaketyyak 17:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough - I figured I'd just ask :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 17:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blu-ray media

message: I'm not sure that is the actual logo that Eidos have chosen for the game; it's more likely to be fan speculation ... 77.102.212.40 (talk) 22:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're right that it's not the official logo. Until CD gets back into the office tomorrow, they're not confirming anything. The logo was uploaded to the website they obtained (which is not online right now.) Someone downloaded it off their offline site somehow and shared it with the world. It could change. Additionally, the image that goes in the infobox should be the boxart, not the logo. clicketyclickyaketyyak 22:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo

message: Is the part about Indiana Jones really necessary? It doesn't belong in the gameplay section anyway.--Legend Chronicles (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not - I've removed it for the time being. I think it is mainly trivia, which is discouraged anyway. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Indiana Jones

message: Should something about the new underwater gameplay footage be added?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.211.92 (talk) 23:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw a forum thread for a video of that but the video itself was taken down before I could see it.  That also means it's not a viable source... but this article probably has most of the information that could have been gleaned from that video.~ Dusk Knight 03:07, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gameplay footage

message: Should we trim the teaser trailer info now - we don't need to know so much detail about it surely. Something along the lines of 'A teaser trailer was realesed detailing Lara destroying her mansion with a bomb.' Should be enough.
Oh and can we yet state the ID of the voice in the gameplay trailer or is it specualtion until a cast list for the game reveals it?
86.150.78.172 (talk) 14:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We will not be placing anything about the voice in the trailer until it is confirmed by an official source. It is possible that the other trailer information could be trimmed too - I'll look into it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shorten Teaser Trailer???

message: Should the return of the Natla character be mentioned? As the voice in a recent trailer was compared to Natla's voice in Anniversary, showing them to be identical.Super Badnik 15:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is speculation, and should not be mentioned in the article without a source confirming it is Natla. Any such mention will be deleted if it doesn't have a reliable source. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There isn't anyone who can deny that the voice is natla. The voice is EXACTLY the same. Its pretty obvious. I even compared the trailer to Anniversary. It may be speculation, but it is definate; even without being confirmed... - Neutralle (talk) 13:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Until it is officially confirmed by Eidos or Crystal, then it is speculation, whether or not you believe it is Natla. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

text: How's this for size? http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=81583 - the screenshot is a tad dirty but there is no doubt that is Natla - the magazine that scren was in reveals that Amanda tries to revive Natla. Talk amongst yourselves. 213.166.17.13 (talk) 11:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added the Natla info into the article - she is actually in the demo - but I commented it out. Please decide what to do with it. Ggctuk (talk) 10:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The demo does confirm several characters.  It's not the easiest for everyone to check as it requires an Xbox 360 with Xbox Live or gaming PC, but it is official.  Lara, Zip, and Alister are seen, while Natla and Amanda are mentioned only.~ Dusk Knight 05:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mention of Natla?

message: ...should be added to the info-box, since this game is very new in terms of graphics and physics.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.213.155 (talk) 12:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the game uses an all-new engine, there is no other game using it. Therefore the engine details don't need to be listed in the infobox (I don't think anyway). ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What game-engine is used?

message: All of you that wants to make this article exclusive, should chill out a bit. It's nice to have lot of trailers, infos and multimedia stuffs about a future game. Let some mystery around it! Just try to make an article for any person that reads it, not for the fans.
One more thing, I think the following paragraph should be no longer needed:
"It was announced in January 2008 that Tomb Raider: Underworld will be released in the fourth quarter of 2008, as opposed to the third quarter as was previously planned. In June 2008, it was announced that the game would be released in November 2008."
Tulok (talk) 15:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Chill out !!!

message: Reading the section on levels, the last line states: "In Mexico, the level will feature a motorcycle part, which was shown on an IGN video." This is said just after mentioning the mini tutorial level. Is this statement refering to a Mexico level in the game, or when the game is released in Mexico they will have an extra section to the mini tutorial that includes the bike? This seems silly but it is just how I read it? Didn't want to alter in case that is what is meant.
Dark verdant (talk) 11:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it means in the Mexico section of the game, although the statement is currently unsourced (and as such, will be removed shortly anyway). ~~ [ジャム][talk] 17:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed level section per WP:GAMETRIVIA. --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 18:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Levels section

message: The section regarding the grappling hook being able to push objects was edited to pull. Didn't want to change it back as I cannot look for a source whilst at work, but I think it should be push or at least push/pull. As i understand it from pictures I have seen, lara use the grapple hook behind object, pulls the wire so it is tight and then moves left or right, the wire then pushes against the object to move it. Maybe the section needs a slight re-word so it is understandable. Dark verdant (talk) 10:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Push with grappling hook edit

message: Why no mention of the mixed reception?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.70.72.148 (talk) 17:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the lead of that section to use the Metacritic analysis of the reviews.  I've also quoted their basic explanation of the individual metascores, as we probably should not be interpreting the numbers ourselves.~ Dusk Knight 05:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Someplace else (talk) 10:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mixed Reviews

message: I think that even if the next information has its source, it's no correct at all:
There are pieces that do not loop, meaning they will only play one time and will be triggered on specific events. The score is made more of musical fragments, similar to the first five games of the Tomb Raider series, and there will be less constant music than in Legend.
Thank you. --TudorTulok (talk) 21:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete it!

message: http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/11/21/uk-tomb-raider-underworld-reviews-under-810-silenced-until-monday/
Anyone think this could be added? 99.140.201.47 (talk) 00:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but I think we need a few more reliable sources to back it up. ~~ [ジャム][talk] 09:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Holdback of reviews under 80/100 section?

message: You can always find connection between all stuffs around the world and you always know that you seriously influence people you might not even ever know. That's what I thought when I first found out that the beautiful voice featured in TR Legend and TR Underworld has some other performing predecessors.
Thanks to Troels Folmann's musical project I know the name of the singer of that solo voice, from .
After that, my memory served me with some information, so I soon remembered of other several quite similar voices and these are:
* an old trailer form Diablo 2
* the Gladiator movie
* The Passion Of The Christ
* the new teaser trailer of Diablo 3
* some tracks from Apocalypto score
I would certainly call it a trend or style, I'm still not curios who is first in this experiment, or if it was rediscovered, or if it was discovered by two or more composers at the same time.
I'm only curios where such kind of information would be useful, hope that someone is interested.
Tomb Raider take a small part in this new trend, I believe.
--TudorTulok (talk) 22:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: One more thing would be that probably the style could be called oriental modern adapted as Lisa Gerrard and Francesca Genco are oriental in style, but I still can't connect the movies and games together, but maybe it' all about a feeling, and not a music style, anyway... it's beautiful that the oriental mourn is widely used. --TudorTulok (talk) 22:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Francesca Genco - Trivia

message: I have added a Locations section to the article. I recently noticed there is not a listing of the locations Lara visits. This information can only be read by reading the full plot which can spoil the details for many people hence the reason for creating this section. Feel free to expand upon this.  Neutralle 20:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Locations section

message: I've rated this article C-class for a few reasons:
*The lead feels really short for an article of this size.
*Outside of the plot, several paragraphs are unsourced.
*The locations section really doesn't need to be spelled out like it is. A single paragraph discussing briefly the locations visited is a better alternative. This section would do better too combined with the previous Characters section, which could use a summary of the characters in the game besides Lara Croft: remember, write the article for folks that have no idea what a game is.
*Listing the motion actors isn't necessary, and the voice actors would better be covered next to their related characters in the aforementioned characters summary paragraph. As it is that block breaks the flow of the article.
*Almost the entire Development section has several choppy paragraphs. Combining them or bulking them up would do the article some good.
*The DLC parts could probably be summarized together a bit better.
*Sales could be put under reception, as it is Reception.
*That citation style note is right.
The article is off to a good start, but right now it's a solid C. It definitely needs some work before it can reach B-class and beyond. However I think it could be done in a short period of time with the right dedication. Good luck.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment as of 2009-06-16

message: For a few months, this picture has been a subject of contention between editors. For now, I've taken it off the page until consensus can be reached. Please reach it here. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 22:59, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the problem? --Mike Allen 00:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't know. I think I came in around the middle of all this. These diffs show what I know of the conflict: Removed, added, added, added, removed, added, and removed. Obviously those aren't all of the diffs, but those have the most relevant edit summaries that I know of. Also, see this thread on Super Badnik's talk page. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 00:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that's a poor excuse to exclude it from the article.  It's not like the article has 10 non-free images on the page, in fact, it has NONE.  That image demonstrates the improved graphics on both the environment and Lara. However, I would like to find a better image than that, that shows more of Lara, if possible. --Mike Allen 00:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The image does not meet the non-free content criteria because it doesn't illustrate anything that can't be described in text (just saying that the graphics were improved) and therefore is not necessary. Specifically, this image alone doesn't prove that graphics were "improved" from any baseline, and we don't just add non-free images for the sake of having more images. If you disagree, you can start a thread at WP:Non-free content review to get more outside opinions, but I firmly stand by my position that the picture is not necessary in the article, and it doesn't help that Super Badnik clearly doesn't know anything about the image use rules anyway. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 07:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So you are saying that absolutely no images would be good for the article? --Mike Allen 08:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said that (but thanks for dodging the actual topic of discussion and putting words in my mouth). Images are good, but non-free images need to meet strict criteria in order to be used, and just saying "images are nice" doesn't give you a free pass to misuse non-free media. Again, if you object, start a thread at WP:NFCR. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 08:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhhh ok.  I asked a civil question.  You know I have other things to do than debate on a useless image. Thank you. lol --Mike Allen 08:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So we agree that the image is "useless". I guess that settles it. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 10:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: It's not explicitly stated here. i find most games have the same developers for the PC, PS3 and XBOX 360 versions, and then another one for PS2 and Wii, and yet further developers for the iPhone, NDS, etc. Children of the dragon (talk) 02:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who made the XBOX version? 

message: I was looking through some sales figures and calculated that to date, the game has sold over 3 million copies.  Discovered this from the website "vgchartz"
https://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23921
https://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23915
https://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=21884
https://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=21885
https://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=32603
Each page is a different edition of the game, added together (excluding the DS version, as that appears to be a radically different game from the same cohesive version across other platforms), it comes out to about 3.04 million units.  Unless I'm mistaken, or vgchartz is unreliable, I think we should update the 2.6 million sales figure in the article to 3, or "over 3 million".173.59.11.121 (talk) 04:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revised Sales Figures