Talk:Sukhumi

message: I wanted to let everyone editing this article know that I have 19 photos taken in Abkhazia in 2014 uploaded to the Commons and available here should you have any need. All of the photos were taken in the capital. Interlaker (talk) 00:18, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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On 16 September 2015, at the request of the Permanent Mission of Georgia to the United Nations, the map of Georgia was updated on the website of the Geospatial Information Section of the United Nations. 
The English language orthography of several cities on Georgia's Black Sea coast has been changed in accordance with the established norms of Georgian toponyms: სოხუმი/Sokhumi, ბიჭვინთა/Bichvinta, ახალი ათონი/Akhali Atoni, გულრიფში/Gulripshi and ოჩამჩირე/Ochamchire. 
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According to this regulations, made by the United Nations, please, change the title of the article into Sokhumi and use this form in any other articles of Wikipedia. 
Also note, that according to this official UN map of Georgia, the primary name of Abkhazia part of Georgia is Abkhazeti.
Thank you! Abkhazian1 (talk) 06:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Russia is a permanent member of the UNSC. It has considerable influence. CMD (talk) 05:57, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  CMD, It's OK with Russian influence. What do you think regarding the title? Abkhazian1 (talk) 08:02, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's tricky. Looking through the google results for both, Sukhumi still seems more common in English sources overall, whereas Sokhumi is much more common in sports and discussing the university, as well as in all Georgian English sources. It does look like Sokhumi is increasingly on the rise, but hasn't overtaken Sukhumi yet. WP:NCGN notes two tests for when names are hard to determine (and I would suggest Sokhumi has increased in prominence enough to be a contender), Google hits and local linguistic majority. Google hits would indicate Sukhumi as still slightly ahead, and I do not know what form Abkhaz speakers prefer. CMD (talk) 15:42, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

text:  CMD, I'm absolutely agree with you, but:
* ″The English language orthography of several cities on Georgia's Black Sea coast has been changed...″ - this was officialy stated on the website of the Permanent Mission of Georgia to the United Nations. (see here: []). As I know, Google is not a regulatory agency or something like that to fix or approve names (toponyms in this case). So, since 15 sept 2015, according the statement delivered by the PM of Georgia to the UN and accepted by the UN, on the other hand, the fully qualified official English name for the city is "Sokhumi". We are talking about English Wikipedia, not about German or Swahili one... Of course "Sokhumi" hasn't overtaken "Sukhumi" yet. How could it be happen in a couple of months? 
* Anyway, as for Google (maps), please, check this: []
* As for me, it is less importance "So-" or "Su-". Just since the date, mentioned above, the official English name begins with "So-". So, simply, that's why we should to change it. Regards, Abkhazian1 (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: English Wikipedia does not use WP:OFFICIALNAMES. Both names are English names, in that they are used in English. I believe the UN and Google Maps positions are already noted in the article. CMD (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I was trying to explain this to him. But he wouldn't listen. Ilya Drakonov (talk) 07:01, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  The linguistic majority (which is important per WP:NCGN) in this case is firmly on the side of Sukhumi, by the way. Alæxis¿question? 19:11, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, almost everybody in Abkhazia call there capital "Сухум", which is close to "Sukhumi". This must be taken as a reason too. Ilya Drakonov (talk) 07:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: thumb|100px|Option 1
There is an ongoing dispute about whether the infobox should use :File:Scruj23.JPG or :File:Sokhumi Collage.jpg. My personal preference would be for one image which is as representative as possible, showing something more than a single building. I would also rather a single image than a collection of images, and so I would prefer the first one despite its lighting and composition being not as good. I haven't found anything that jumps out at me on commons, although suggestions are welcome. CMD (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not block the Abkhaz artcile. It is for editing of autoconfirmed users to prevent vandalism. You can open a local discussion there too:) Ilya Drakonov (talk) 11:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Option 2 this support. 209.239.112.28 (talk) 11:53, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: File:Sokhumi Collage.jpg user not change. --BasBibi (talk) 13:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

text: changed photo. 204.74.216.197 (talk) 05:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox skyline 

message: The wildly edit-warring new user User:Deffrman, who has been reverted by four editors so far today, is making the same vandal edits as 2001:e10:6840:21:20c:6eff:fe07:58e3. He has not explained his edits, nor left useful edit-summaries despite requests to do so. --Tenebrae (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not block not edit warning. --Deffrman (talk) 04:11, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This user is actually a sock of User:Boxtools. I've blocked him in Chechen Wiki and his IP adresses are blocked in Wikimedia Incubator. So I think he can leave.. Ilya Drakonov (talk) 11:55, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Change images. --Mtherwjs (talk) 17:41, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2016 

message: Here . Mtherwjs (talk) 10:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Close request, there does not appear to be any actual request for an edit here. -- GB fan 17:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Change image. 173.236.126.98 (talk) 17:17, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  19:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Change images. 2A01:5F20:0:0:0:0:0:24 (talk) 11:15, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: Change images Sokhumi Collage.jpg. --BasBibi (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 14:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: Add links. 188.32.110.251 (talk) 14:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:49, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: The statement that the Colchians inhabited all of today's Abkhazia (The Colchian tribes (ethnically Georgian) were the first to inhabit this territory where they founded the first Georgian kingdom approximately on all the territory of present-day Abkhazia) is contentious and misleading. I haven't seen it in reliable works on the history of the region. Braund writes about the multitude of languages spoken in Dioskurias (Georgia in Antiquity, p. 59). 
The added source is Georgian so we need to take into account potential biases. See Nation-building in the Post-Soviet Borderlands by Smith et al, pp. 54-55
So it's not even the consensus position among Georgian scholars. The article about Sukhumi is not a place to go into all these details. Alaexis¿question? 13:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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