Talk:The 13th Warrior

message: In a few places, the main character Ibn Fadlan is described, in a historical context and in a movie context, as speaking or writing Arabic, i.e. "The frame story is adapted from the tenth-century Arabic writings of Ibn Fadlan" and "The language barrier is awkward, as Ahmed only speaks Arabic"--but coming from Baghdad, wouldn't Ibn Fadlan be Persian?  I'm afraid I don't know anything about the languages to tell them apart, and the Wikipedia entry for Ibn Fadlan as a historical figure does not shed any light on the topic.  And it's very late, so I don't really have the time to research it. :P
I just had figured Ibn Fadlan to be a Persian, not an Arab.  Antonio Banderas certainly fits the part physically better.  And as I recall, he fights with one of the Norse swords ground down into a shamshir...
--Kuronekoyama 07:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This section makes little sense. The historical Ibn Fadlan was an Arab, Baghdad (in modern Iraq) was the capital of the Arab Abbasid Caliphate. How exactly Banderas "fits the part" of a Persian rather than an Arab, I have no idea, and is completely pointless. A Czech man plays a Viking in this film as well. FunkMonk (talk) 16:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic/Persian? 

message: Okay, coming here from WP:3. After looking at the article, and the arguments, I think that the Wendol qualify it as fantasy, but thesstory is not really fantasy. So, I think this article should be classified as both historical fiction and fantasy. If you don't like that, please reply, but I think this compromise will work for everyone. ¿SFGiДnts! ☺ ☻ 00:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing, nothing historical about this movie. No attention was paid to any detail of history. It could have been set in Middle Earth with entirely fictional names and been exactly the same story. Borrowing names of historical societies and dropping them willy-nilly into a story does not a historical fiction work make. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 21:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a fairly silly argument to make. The definition of fantasy generally includes an understanding that the story involves elements that cannot exist in the real world, i.e., that are "fantastical"--magic, unreal lands, etc. Even an absolute lack of accurate historicity doesn't make a story set in the real world fantasy. This is a slippery slope; to designate this as fantasy because it's entirely historically inaccurate is to open up every piece of historical film to a classification of fantasy. I am removing this tag.  Grandpallama (talk) 21:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

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message: The "Viking language" in this movie is not Norse! Please correct this. It's an old version of modern swedish, but not Norse. Norse is much closer to Icelandic than the dialect spoken in this movie  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.225.228.56 (talk) 20:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Viking langauge" 

message: Melchisedek and Herger both definitely converse in Latin, not Greek. When establishing first contact, Melchisedek asks to see the Vikings' king, "basileios" in Greek. Herger only understands him when he uses the Latin word "rex" and then the conversation continues in Latin, including Herger's joke: "Non loquaetur, quia mortuus est" which is translated as "the king will not speak to you because he is dead". --Aquinate (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I made the change to the text. It's unquestionably Latin. If it were Greek, I wouldn't understand it. 71.220.162.188 (talk) 02:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek or Latin? 

message: Is the prayer/litany/death chant/whatever that the Norse recite historic, or was it made up for the movie (or book)? Wardog (talk) 12:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lo there do I see my father... 

message: Some recent edits have been introducing WP:PEACOCK language into the article. We should try to summarise the facts as plainly as possible. Calling something a "box office disaster" is unnecessarily emotive when "financial failure" is more reasonable in tone and more enclyopedic. Betty Logan (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peacock language