Talk:Toyota RAV4

message: Made several changes.  The new 3.5L V6 is unique to North America, not being offered in other countries.  Front wheel drive RAV4s are also mostly only sold in North America.  I have added this info.  I also changed the wording from "all wheel drive" to "four wheel drive", seeing as the former usually indicates permanent 4WD, something which the current model lacks (but previous models had). Davez621 10:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Difference between all wheel drive and 4wd is the presence/absence of a differential between the front and rear axles. A 4wd (without diff locks) will always turn at least two wheels while an all wheel drive possibly has power only going to one. 1.127.48.249, 23:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  3.5L V6 

message: Does anyone know which platforms the various versions of the RAV-4 uses? It is my impression that the current versions are off of a Corolla platform. Any information appreciated.--TGC55 17:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Platforms? 

message: Why was the top image changed from a 4-door to a 2-door? If there's a need for a top image at all (and I'm not at all sure about that, since there are images of every generation already), it should be the most common variant. Jay Maynard 19:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top image? 

message: I may be wrong, but I believe that in the early 21st century only the 1.8l 2.0l and 2.2l cars were available in the UK, whereas only the 2.5l was available in the US, is that so? \alpha 15:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engine versions and locale 

message: The current section titles for each generation are as follows:
*First generation (XA1, 1994–2000)
*Second generation (CA20W, 2001–2005)
*Third generation (CA30W, 2005–present)
There are a number of problems with these titles. The XA1 uses only a single digit while CA20W and CA30W use two digits. The first generation does not have 'W' at the end, while the other two generations do have 'W' (which signifies Wagon). And the platform codes (XA, CA) are not quite consistent.
I will explain the platform code in more detail. Most Toyota fans know that the model code breaks down down as engine family (1 letter) + platform code (1 or 2 letters) + generation code (1 or 2 digits) + model within generation (1 digit). So, SXA10 breaks down as engine=S family+ platform=XA + gen-code=1 + sub-model=0. So now we know that the RAV4 platform code is XA. Knowing this and knowing that the ACA20 has a 1AZ engine, we can deduce that ACA20 is AZ + XA + 2 + 0 and that the Z+X combine to form a C. This is explained bit more at List of Toyota platforms, Talk:List of Toyota platforms and talk:Toyota Camry#Japanese only SV30/40 (look for Z+X=C). The same pattern for the ACA30 is AZ+XA + 3 + 0. For the ASA30 the pattern becomes AR+XA + 3 + 0 (R+X combine to form S).
Also, the years should be the calendar year it was introduced to the calendar year (inclusive) of its last month of production. So, if the XA10 was built from July 1994 to Aug 2001 (using faked months because I don't have them at hand), then the production years should be 1994-2001. this of course means that the end of one generation will be in the same calendar year as the start of the next generation.
Anyway, given the above, I would like to change the section titles to be:
*XA10, 1994-2001
*XA20, 2001-2005
*XA30, 2005-present
We've done this for Toyota Camry. We've also split the Corolla articles up in a similar manner for E10, E20, ... E110 generations. Thoughts?  Stepho  (talk) 09:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section titles and platform codes 

message: "The second generation RAV4 went on sale in the middle of 2000"
So why is the header 2001> ?
That makes it impossible to have a 2000 model, even though it is perfectly possible, this needs changing.
81.137.240.118 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. I have changed it to 2000-2005.  Stepho  (talk) 12:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: XA20 section title

message: There seems to be confusion about the XA40 towing capacity. I've found references for both 1750 kg and 1750 lb
*2000 kg (UK) http://www.thetowcarawards.com/tow-car/toyota-rav4/
*1650 kg (UK) http://blog.toyota.co.uk/2016-toyota-rav4-hybrid-what-you-need-to-know
*1750 lb (US) http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/04/20150402-rav4.html
*1750 lb (US) http://www.toyota.com/rav4/2016/features/weights_capacities/4430/4440/4444/4454
*1500 lb (US) http://www.hilandtoyota.com/blog/2016-toyota-rav4-towing-capacity/
Perhaps this a regulatory thing where the US gov is just a lot fussier, or perhaps the UK has extra bracing, etc to handle the load or perhaps just a typo in the initial press pack for one of the countries (that every other media release copied).  Stepho  talk  22:55, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: US defaults to without trailer brakes in these ratings, rating is higher with them - signed 1.127.48.249, 23:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that makes sense. I will have to think how to reword the article so that it doesn't become an edit war between US and UK editors.  Stepho  talk  01:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  XA40 towing capacity 

message: I know that on the Japanese Wikipedia article トヨタ・RAV4 that the Toyota RAV4 in Japan will be replaced by the Toyota C-HR, along with the Toyota ist. signed by 140.0.79.45, 28 November 2016
:The Japanese WP page has no supporting references to back this up.  Stepho  talk  05:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already accessed its references for replacement by the C-HR.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.0.79.45 (talk) 05:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately there are problems with that reference. For starters, it is based on the concept C-HR, not the production C-HR. Secondly, the reference talks about the US market but it is attempting to support changes in the Japanese market. Thirdly, appearing at the same time that another model disappears is not the same thing as being the successor (different market segments, price levels, target audience, etc). But most important of all, the reference is only an opinion piece. WP:NEWSORG (part of WP:RS) frowns on editorials and opinion pieces.  Stepho  talk  13:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement by the C-HR in Japan 

message: has found some clues that the fifth gen is XA50. From https://www.toyota-tech.eu/whatsNew.aspx we have AXAA52, AXAA54, AXAH52, AXAH54, MXAA52, MXAA54. Presumably the first letter (A or M) matches with the A25A or M20A engine. The last letter seems to be A for normal petrol engine or H for Hybrid petrol engine. So we have A/M XA A/H 5 2/4, where the 2 or 4 represents some other vehicle option. Note: registration at that website is free but actually downloading anything costs money.  Stepho  talk  11:58, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fifth gen model code 

message: and myself have a disagreement about the short description. Pointing to WP:SD (I think he meant WP:SHORTDESC) he wants it to be as succinct as possible as "Motor vehicle". I thought that was too short and reverted it. Re-reading WP:SHORTDESC, I still think "Motor vehicle" is too short but that the existing "Compact crossover SUV manufactured by Toyota" can use some improvement. We have up to 40 characters to play with but need to keep it simple. Perhaps "Small SUV motor vehicle by Toyota".  Stepho  talk  15:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to reply the edit summary by Revirvlkodlaku that "Motor vehicle" is not a standard shortdesc for car models per se, but the default shortdesc for every article that contained the automobile infobox. As far as I know it is not an established standard nor it is the ideal form. Andra Febrian (talk) 15:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  , I stand corrected (thanks to ). I assumed that "Motor vehicle" was the accepted short description (linked the wrong WP page, too! 😅). I think in the very least, "Toyota" should be omitted from the s/d, as it merely repeats what's already in the title. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short description 

message: has jumped the gun a bit and tried to split out the XA40 generation to it's own article - along the same lines as Toyota Corolla has been split. This has merit but I'd like to do it in a co-ordinated fashion. The usual manner is to copy the text from here to what used to be the redirect for each generation, to leave a summary in here and to use  to point to the new generation articles. Care must be taken that references survive the move. Any objections ?  Stepho  talk  23:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I won't do this again. ToyotaAvalonFan2004 (talk) 00:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, it takes a while to learn all the ins and outs of Wikipedia. Keep doing what looks best and we'll help you as you need it.  Stepho  talk  00:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

text: @, there's no need for now to split the sections into separate articles since the details are still not many as of now. They can be split once there are too many details already in the article. VictorTorres2002 (talk) 00:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to split the generations ? 

message: The Toyota RAV4 (XA50) was launched in China on 22 November 2019 by FAW Toyota, along with the Wildlander produced and sold by GAC Toyota. Mebius Herichon (talk) 03:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The article already says "The fifth-generation RAV4 was also launched in China on 22 November 2019 at the Guangzhou International Motor Show. It is produced and sold by FAW Toyota. Another Chinese market variant with different front and rear fascias produced and sold by GAC Toyota is called the Toyota Wildlander (Chinese: 威兰达; pinyin: Wēilándá)."  Stepho  talk  04:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toyota RAV4 (XA50) and Wildlander 

message: "The Rear Driveline Disconnect transmits driving force to rear wheels when 4WD driving is deemed unnecessary, reducing energy loss and improving fuel efficiency." It's word-for-word from the reference (also a copyvio issue) but it still doesn't makes sense, even after numerous re-readings. Is it trying to say that when 4WD isn't necessary then it swaps to RWD only (ie disconnects the front wheels)? I would have thought it would swap to FWD (ie disconnects the rear wheels).  Stepho  talk  06:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually caught that as well but I thought that's just because my English comprehension skills isn't advanced enough. I'll fix it sometime later. Andra Febrian (talk) 08:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rear Driveline Disconnect 

message: The Toyota RAV4 (XA50) facelift will be launched on 2023. Derwydd74 (talk) 10:34, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toyota RAV4 (XA50) facelift