Talk:Punarvasu

message: Rama is not an avatar of Vishnu.One has to know this chronological order of Indian Mythology.First being Purana and being Vedas in the Middle and then Ithihasas ( Ramayana and Mahabharata.Puranic Literature never speaks of any avatars but only Limited to tales about the Rule of Shiva and Moral Gentoo Laws. It is to note that Very Key Incident in Puranas is Daksha Yagna.As Dakhsha Prajapathi the Egoistic God who does a Yagna which insults Shiva and Wife of Shiva was not invited to that Yagna.Being Kind She Goes and gets humiliated.There she Ends her Life in a Fire Altar. Becoming Angry Lord Rudra/Shiva creates MahaPralaya by imparting a Jata and remember that Shiva is praised for having All Sky as his infinite Jatas).The Jata Energy imparted was veerabhadra and he beheads Everyone. Later Lord Rudra Performs A Cosmic Dance which is caled Thandava and creaqted MahaPRalaya.Only Witnesses were Lord Vishnu and The MahaDevi.That was the Big-bang and since then Shiva has started creating so many Galaxies with his infinite Energy.As he Loved his Wife he and Her Wife Remained with out body since that time.They remained as Pure Energy Bodies and in mythological Words they are resting.. Lord Vishnu was Given the authority to Rule and He has been Bestowed with Lot OF energy and Lord Vishnu uses in creating Pralaya after Kalpantha.The VeeraBhadra was the God Without any discrimination.Mean while in the Mahapralaya Kaala Lord Vishnu who has been bestowed with YogaShakthi of Shiva and also been bestowed with Huge energy of Lord Shiva.In that Pralaya Kaala Lord Vishnu does repair Everything caused by the Cosmic Dance of Rudra.Lord Vishnu creates a prototype Shiva and also Creates Brahma for the purpose of creation. The energy of Veerabhadra has been gathered and as it shall be with Siddhi and Budhi.However  Brahmani-cal Part has been Limited to brahma while The energy of Veerabhadra was used by Lord Vishnu and they started the KrithaYuga.Howeevr it is to be noted that in Daksha Yagna the participants were Suras but not Asuras.Till that time there were 2 peopel faught for the rule and they were suras and asuras.Meaning is who were authorized for surapaana/wine drinking.Unfortunately Veerabhadrakills all suras instead of Asuras and only asuras were survived.One shall note that Asuras were Hiding in th epralayakala with out getting damaged.As Lord Vishnu created KrithaYuga there were only asuras and they were in rule of the World.And they became Powerful and started atrocities same as daksha prajapathi.And to counter them All sapthaRishs worked out made some Sidhi and Buddhi for the Veerabhadra Consciousness. And he has been created as Rama and One shall note that he has been configured on the Lines of Personalities o fShiva.In the Ramayan at one time He confronts with Shiva( one created by Lord Vishnu) as he is ajatha Shatru.However Rama Also becomes Egoistic and Lord Vishnu puts an Illusion in between Rama and Hanuman and they fight but nothing was happened to either of them.However Lord Rama Fails to Change his attitude towards Sita Angered Bhoodevi Takes back her Ansha which was Given to create Seeta.And there Ends Ramayana.AS Lord Rama doubts on her Wife Twice.Later it happens DwaparaYuga Where Vishnu come onto the earth as Lord Krishna.One must Note that In DwaparaYuga Lord Krishna and all his wife's story is not true.It shall be noted that the Female Energy Forms which were spoiled by asuras and also Suras and also People Like Rama as in case of  sita gets humilaited by her husband repeated doubtful behavior. were given Love but not Lusty one.It is the Heart to Heart Relationship but not of Any Bodily sex performing Act. As Mahabharata is a lengthy one Lord Vishnu becomes majorly successful but his own Group of Yadavs  Becomes Egostic and Lrod Krshna Ends his Avatara.And then the MAterial Civilization Kaliyuga.It is to be noted that Lord Vishnu Started Removeing One maya/illusion in each Yuga and started teaching to all suras.As such there was only few asuras were left by teh End of TrethaYuga.The KaliYuga hass not started before some 5000 or 10000 years back.What we watch is a movie like inception.Dream in dream. As one Maya is removed people will loose one remembrance.And what we see is same earth system which we are watching after Lord Shiva Leaving this Place.AS time passed so called Asuras started showing very improving their character and we can see Kings Like Bali and Sibi and all doing a Rule of Dharma.But being the Power Mongers So called Suras started becoming asuras and one famous example is Lord Indra.One such note in the puranas is Lord Shiva Praises relentless Bhakthi of Asuras and bestows all his wealth to Asuras.AS Asuras worked very had and shown hard allegiance to Lord Shiva.As time Progressed So called Dyus or Daityas or asuras started becoming infallible followers of Bhakthi and tried to restore Dharma.But being Power Mongers and Egoistic Suars always Defied Shiva and Started Thinking they were the ultimate Gods.One can watch see the examples in puranas where shiva beheads such Gods like Brahma Twice and Ganesha once and also Curses Brahma for Lying.And even Daksha Prajapathi.In one Dravidian Stories there is one note that Goddess Shakthi has cursed Rama that he has to take so many incarnations with out a Wife and he shall live only as a sage.So it is to note that meaning of ravana is misinterpreted. Ravi is none than Surya/Shakthi of this solar system.Anu is a molecule. Ravan is none other than a Spec of Lord Surya and he is the Son of Surya Bhagawan. "Ravam" is also meant for Brightness. Where as Ram is the Word which is not indigenous.But RAM is meant for Lamb.And Kaliyuga is the 5 the dream in dream. 5th Inception.And all chronologies are Kept in miniature Time.AS one can decipher the Einsteins Time space Continuum one can infer that Time also can be skewed. It all depends on the Velocity with which light travels in one medium. May the Medium we watch is Dense with strong Maya ( illusive Force of Lord Vishnu) and he has given all favorable conditions for a material living.AS like from bacteria to Human being.AS such he was not successful in teaching Lessons for Gods.So as they evolved the first peopel who reckoned Shiva were Again Harappans So called Dasyus by Aryan Invaders.We can watch harappans were matriarchal societies where as Aryans were patriarchal. One need to decipher the Harappan Langauge to know the past. And what we are watching in Sky is not this Brahma's Anda.But so many. Brahma only resides on a Lotus who arises from navel of Lord Vishnu in Milky Way Galaxy and he is only Lord of One such Nakshatra which is called Lyra.There must ve several Creations like this and we can watch billions of galaxies.And One such correlation is Universe age is 13 Billion years but Earth is Of 4.6 Billion years.This is very accordance with Brahma Purana.Brahma is one intermediary created for the purpose of creation.Stop saying Rama was the Shiva and also Rama was Vishnu.He was only VeeraBhadra and he was only one spec of Shiva.AS lord Brahma became Egoistic so also Lord Rama. One shall note that Ramas real anme was RamaBhadra as Bhadra is suffixed after Rama as it was in VeeraBhadra. Can any sane person accept that One spec of Shiva is Equivalent to Shiva?.Even by the Shathi terminology Ravana was more powerful than Rama.AS he killed both Rama and Lakshmana in the war and later they were given sanjeevini.However They kill raavana with help of one of the five elements of Shiva VaayuDeva and makes the Arrow to Deflect and touches th e Naabhi of Ravana. As he was also one of the Prajapathi among 24 prajapathis. He was Pulastya Brahma Whom we can reckon with Pallavas of AP.So by no chance Lord Rama is an avatar of Vishnu or Shiva.He was VeeraBhadra.As you can watch that Lord Krishna has been invincible.Most of the Southern Brahmins are descendents of Central-Asia they were not able to understand the Culture of Dravids.Rama was Born in Abhijit Lagna and the ruler is brahma.Where as in kaliyuga the Lord Vishnu must have Kept the  Shila of Shiva as Kesava or narayana and praying for the Shiva to come as Kalki.As one shall note that meaning f Kalki is that who dissolute the Confusion and Anarchy.As Lord Shiva is most kind i guess he is not goign to end the World becaus eof Anarchy which is Built by Suras or Brahmans and throwing the blame on Asuras.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devaforwik (talk • contribs) 12:42, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy About Rama