Talk:List of Catholic writers

message: This list is faulty on the face. It professes to list authors who are "Catholic," which apparently is meant to stand for "Roman Catholic." The only problem is that some authors on this list could not have possibly been RC, because the RCC did not exist at the same time as they did. There was certainly a "Catholic" church, i.e., the Western Church, but "Roman"? Hardly. Chaucer, for instance, did not live in a time wherein there could be said to exist a Roman Catholic Church. This article needs some serious attention.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.106.71 (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inherently Faulty List

message: This list will probably not get deleted. I still have that much faith in this place. However it does need to be pared down alot. It should be limited to authors where their religion is clearly important to their work. For example writers like Graham Greene or G. K. Chesterton would make sense. Any old writer from a Catholic family in Catalonia or Poland does not.--T. Anthony 03:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm working on paring it down. However I didn't get as strict as I did with List of Catholic artists because there are people important to Catholic literature who aren't all that devout in Catholicism. For example Santayana I think does fit a list like this even though he was either agnostic or atheist.--T. Anthony 04:01, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For whatever reason I didn't feel like doing the verifying work on the French and Spanish sections. I'll leave that to others. Most everything else should be defensible. For example I replaced most of the borderline Czech writers that were listed with priests and people imprisoned by Communism for their religious zeal.--T. Anthony 12:42, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding deletion 

message: There are still some leftovers. Antidote 23:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably a good idea.--T. Anthony 02:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pruning list to only include authors who profess Catholicism in writings

message: Wikipedia talk:Featured lists it was suggested this needs more references. Any thoughts?--T. Anthony 12:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

message: I think that the combination of organization per degree of Catholicism of a country and per language is contradictory. Some languages are spoken in countries with high degrees of Catholicism and low degrees. E.g. Dutch in Belgium (very catholic) and the Netherlands (somewhat catholic).Andries 16:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for re-organization per language only

message: Germany is listed as a traditionally Non-Catholic society. But Germany has always been about equally divided between Catholicism + Protestantism. So I would support to remove the artifical division into Catholic + non-Catholic societies - this is leading nowhere.
:You're right that Germans are mixed. I had the overall arrangement because I thought it might explain their writing or cultural situation, but you're right it didn't work. I've ended it.--T. Anthony (talk) 12:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is German traditionally Non-Catholic? 

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message: The entry re Oscar Wilde currently contains this section. 'embraced a homosexual lifestyle later on, but converted to Catholicism on his deathbed'. This seems an unnecessarily contentious way of framing his life and queerness. 'Homosexual lifestyle' is outdated language that is also sometimes used as a dog whistle and/or in common homophobic discourse, and is also not clear in what it means. A sexuality is a way of experiencing desire and romance, not a 'lifestyle', and there is no one 'homosexual' way of living your life. Finally, his gayness/homosexuality is not necessarily relevant to his Catholicism; this is a page about Catholic authors, not a page about heterosexual Catholic authors. 
Using 'but' in this passage implies that being gay is incompatible with being Catholic, and that in receiving baptism he was necessarily turning his back on his queerness. This may be the case, but we simply cannot know or guess at this. Further, some Catholics certainly do believe that queerness is incompatible with Catholicism, but other Catholics do not, including various associations of gay Catholics. 
It is not appropriate for this page to take a stance on this; implying that his gayness and his Catholicism are opposed, as this passage currently does, is taking a stance. We should either rephrase to acknowledge that he was a gay man who also converted to Catholicism, or simply remove reference to his sexuality. In my editorial opinion, it would be nice to keep a reference to his gayness, as this is a large part of how he is known, and it may be positive and informative for contemporary gay Catholics to be reminded of the existence of historic gay Catholics, but I also understand if the scope of this page limits the inclusion of that fact here; there should perhaps be some consideration of what biographical details are and are not included on this page however, to ensure standardisation and neutrality. 2A01:4B00:BD13:2A00:76B5:9DE3:44ED:2068 (talk) 20:23, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oscar Wilde 'homosexual lifestyle'