Talk:Papatoetoe

message: what does papatoetoe mean, i can't believe that would have been left out of a site for papatoetoe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.83.6 (talk) 06:17, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Added explanation in main article --Tom Webb 23:39, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "meaning 'undulating area where the toetoe is the predominant feature'. Papatoetoe was named after the 'Prince of Wales' feather". Doesn't papa mean flat rather than undulating? And what has the Prince of Wales's feathers, or Amaranthus hypochondriacus, got to do with it? Nurg 06:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaning of Papatoetoe 

message: Added the photo of the train station to Papatoetoe Train Station Please adjust formatting or remove if you don't think it should really be there,  Thanks. Martync84 22:02, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's exactly the right thing to do - adding links were appropriate is always appreciated by others using WIkipedia. Was goingto do the same - but got caugh out by work. Keep it up :) Tom Webb 04:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Train station photo

message: New Zealand doesn't have formal boundaries for suburbs, so I've been using the 2018 census statistical units and common sense to write and update articles on suburbs.
User:121.98.239.39 has recently expanded this article, and added 2018 demographics, which must have been quite a lot of work if they calculated it all manually. I'm ready to run my python script to produce the demographics, and it will do a slightly more thorough job. 121.98.239.39 has used the statistical areas of Grange, Dingwall, Papatoetoe East, Papatoetoe South, Papatoetoe Central, Papatoetoe North, Papatoetoe South-West, Papatoetoe West, Puhinui East, Puhinui North, Puhinui South and Aorere South as constituting Papatoetoe. I suggest a slightly different mix:
#Make a new article for Puhinui. It's marked as a separate suburb on at least some maps, it has its own train station, and it has its own school. This would take three of the above statistical areas out of this article.
#I've included Aorere North in Māngere East, and 121.98.239.39 has included Aorere South in Papatoetoe. There's also Aorere Central, which at present isn't included in any article. Should we:
##Create an Aorere article for the three Aorere statistical areas. There's Aorere Park which presumably the area is named for, and Aorere College, but the name doesn't appear as a suburb on the maps I've looked at. There is an Aorere River in the South Island but I'd create a hatnote for that. Or
##Add Aorere Central to Papatoetoe as I was originally thinking, or
##Add Aorere Central to Māngere East. It will take me very little time to redo the Māngere East demographics for any of these options.
#I'm not aware of any reason why we would treat Grange, New Zealand and Dingwall, New Zealand as separate suburbs, so I'm happy to leave them in Papatoetoe, but if anyone thinks they should be article I would be happy to see any sources they can provide.
Any local Wikipedians like to suggest which way to go?-gadfium 05:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a local, but I plotted a map of the SA2 census districts which intersect Papatoetoe (blue outline) on the Fire & Emergency NZ localities map, if that's any help to you. --Canley (talk) 08:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. That definition includes Aorere South, Puhinui North and Puhinui South (per User:121.98.239.39's definition) but doesn't include Puhinui East, which would presumably be part of Manukau (although https://data.linz.govt.nz/layer/104830-fire-and-emergency-nz-localities/ puts much of Manukau into Wiri...). Very useful to me to have the F&E localities as an alternative view of suburb boundaries.-gadfium 08:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your input. I'll generate the demographics as you suggest.-gadfium 02:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Here's the output. The links to the summaries at the end of the references are cut off because the template only accepts 9 areas. I'll fix that in a minute, but the statistics are correct, it's only that the reference is incomplete. (The reference template is fixed now) If you have no objection, I'll paste this into the article.-gadfium 02:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text: For consistency with other suburbs and localities, I'm inclined to say no, but it would only take me a few minutes to adapt my script to include Buddhism, Hinduism, and Muslim religions, which I think are most of that 40%. I'll try it tomorrow.-gadfium 08:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Done. I did add the elaboration on religions, and will use that version of the script in future where the percentage of other religions is high.-gadfium 04:23, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Statistical units