Talk:Netflix/Archive 1

message: It said that Netfilx has a patent on the envelope under the image caption, but doesn't mention this in the article.  Anyone have more information? --ShaunMacPherson 12:19, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patent 

message: Though I'm no fan of Blockbuster I've compared Wikipedia's page on Netflix and Blockbuster Video.  I've Noticed Wikipedia has given Netflix a glowing review but heavily criticized Blockbuster for attempting to takeover Hollywood Video, legal battles with their "No Late Fee" policy, and concerns over censorship. I've also noticed Wikipedia has included anti-Blockbuster links on their Blockbuster video page.
How about balancing your Netflix page by including Netflix's "throttling" policy which prevents users from renting unlimited DVDs?
How about including My Opinion of Netflixas an external link which appraises Netflix customer service?  Also, Wikipedia makes no reference to Blockbuster online rental service.
*One word: proof --Badlydrawnjeff 19:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Showing Favoritism? 

message: Looks like the AP interviewed Manuel Manuel Villanueva, who runs the "My Opinion of NetFlix" site . The AP article is available here  and at a number of other news outlets. Due to this new notability, Manuel's page should be linked from this article. We should also add something about the news coverage of throttling. Rhobite 23:18, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manuel in the news 

message: Hi everyone. I've tried to stay out of the Netflix world except as a customer since I wrote my dvd-rent-test analysis a long time ago. But I was recently contacted by the LA Times and noticed that it is not linked to in the Netflix Wiki page. I guess I can edit this myself but wanted to understand why it is not linked to, since it helps explain the allocation process to stat junkies. FYI recently updated my errata a bit.
Update: I added a link to my analysis.
-Mike M
:Thanks Mike. I agree that your analysis should be linked from this article - I remember reading it a couple years ago and I was fascinated. It was the first I heard about throttling. Wikipedia tries to keep the number of links in an article to a minimum. The goal isn't a high quantity of links, it's a high quality article. This is probably why the site wasn't linked up until now. I think it should be linked, but please don't be surprised or offended if someone removes it. Rhobite 20:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no link to the original analysis? 

message: I've created a separate section on "throttling" and the Chavez lawsuit.  I've also created and linked to a new section in the Online DVD rental article regarding throttling, since Blockbuster, LoveFilm and perhaps others also have similar policies.  The new Netflix section includes a link to the San Francisco Superior court site for this case (which includes some of the documentation).  The new section could use some polishing and better cross-linking with some of the existing references, and I'd like to find an authoritative Netflix source for the $4 million estimate of the settlement cost.     David Oberst 00:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Throttling section 

message: The streaming section of this article really needs to mention one very important detail of netflix streaming that is not mentioned currently. MANY titles that are available for streaming are routinely REMOVED on a regular and ongoing basis. Many may simply think that if something is available on streaming that it will ALWAYS be available that way, but it will not. I asked about this via email, and supposedly their licenses rights to show streaming content are always being changed around, thus they remove streaming content all the time. The article should mention this very serious downside of the available streaming content that is on netflix. The streaming content will inform you that its only available until X date (usually 30 day notice) when you try to view it, but its still a negative aspect of the service, especially if you go a few months without browsing it. It'd be alot better if you didn't have a time limit to view certain movies and tv shows on streaming before they remove them, and the article should make people aware of this removal process. They are constantly adding new movies and tv shows to streaming availability which is good, but at the same time they are also always taking content away, and thats important to know for anyone that doesn't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.131.17 (talk) 06:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  STREAMING section needs an important detail added 

message: I would like to add some information on the lack of support (actually, pretty much zero support) of Netflix streaming on Linux platforms. Does anyone know more about this issue? I know the reason is that Microsoft's Silverlight is not supported on Linux, but are there any 3rd-party solutions? As someone who only uses Linux, I would really like to be able to stream Netflix. We should, at the very least, mention something in the article about the lack of support of Linux by Netflix. --Thorwald (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Roku box runs Linux and it can stream Netflix. White 720 (talk) 00:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not what I meant. I know about the Roku box. I meant: Why doesn't Netflix support the Linux desktop? If I can stream Hulu, YouTube, etc. on my Linux desktop, I should be able to do the same with Netflix. I am sure it has something to do with (paranoid) copyrights, but they should be able to find a way and this article should mention the reasoning behind this neglect. --Thorwald (talk) 00:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Or it could be because Netflix simply isn't interested in the Linux desktop market. Persons too cheap to drop $60 on a video streaming box aren't exactly a good target market. 24.19.43.104 (talk) 05:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: According to this interview with a Netflix VP, the reason is no PlayReady DRM support on Linux. I've updated the article. White 720 (talk) 05:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: The CEO of Netflix is on the Board of Directors of Microsoft. There isn't any technical reason it doesn't work. It's been a strategic policy for some time. Jeff Carr (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linux support 

message: Reference 128 to an article by Michael Liedtke is broken, in that the article is no longer available at that site. I think the same article is on FreeRepublic.com but can't post a link to it here. Anyone else have a usable/permanent link/
99.29.238.218 (talk) 01:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated link with Internet Archive link of original reference. Msw1002 (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken reference 

message: "...with over 9,000 negative comments..." is over 76,000 at last look (http://www.facebook.com/netflix/posts/10150234431168870), plus the backlash on Netflix blog, in the media, etc.  Please update that section (and shouldn't it be in the controversy as well, given how many subscribers are responding negatively?). 71.56.65.85 (talk) 03:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Any reason why you can't edit it yourself?  Skiguy330 (talk) 06:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  It's locked. 71.56.65.85 (talk) 08:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  This information has been corrected per WP:NOTNEWS.Rivertown (talk) 18:41, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. 71.56.65.85 (talk) 02:14, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative reaction 

message: The article states that, "Posren and Tsutaya discas would be Japanese equivalents," and then sheepishly admits that there is no citation to back up this fluffy claim. So are those two firms equivalents, or not? If they are, then how is "equivalent" being defined? Why would an "encyclopedia" allow an entry that needs a citation to be valid, but doesn't have one? This is all very un-encyclopedic. Oh, that's right, this is Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.89.67.86 (talk) 03:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed unsourced portion. Msw1002 (talk) 04:09, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would Be Equivalents 

message: I think the article needs to clearly point out that most newer dvd and bluray discs sent via netflix are NOT the same as the retail versions. they are marked rental on the disc and have NO bonus content at all- they are just the movie. as opposed to the retail versions which do come with all of the deleted scenes and various other bonus content. can someone please verify this ifnormation and write about it (and reference it?).
also I think a seperate section on pricing history is needed, to have a section with the record of the price increases or decreases, as well as disclosing announced rake hikes like the unpopular one that is coming on 9/2011.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gawdsmak (talk • contribs) 09:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't unique to Netflix; several other DVD rental services also receive the same type of "rental edition" movie, so I don't see the immediate relevance to putting it in this article solely. The practice is also not yet an industry standard, being only used by a few distributors. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 09:25, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I've noticed this too.  The majority of the discs I've received recently from Netflix (and RedBox too) have said "Rental" at the bottom.  Seems that in addition to only have the movie and language choices, there's also no way to actually skip the previews.  I think this is important and should probably be included at some point, but I haven't seen a lot of coverage for this. Skiguy330 (talk) 22:57, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't all rental outlets do the same? In Europe, this is because the content owner receive more royalties for these discs (Home versions are for personal use only) -- Luk talk 13:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  most discs from netflix are marked 'rental' and not the same version you can buy 

message: Since it appears that the Qwikster plans are not going to happen, shouldn't we merge both articles? -- Luk talk 13:57, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that a merge seems prudent at this time. OlYellerTalktome 14:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm slightly surprised this page didn't appear is a redirect in the first place, so I also think a merge is a good idea.Omnifarious (talk) 14:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a statement that the Qwikster plan was abandoned to the Netflix page.  I don't really think merging is necessary, as the information is basically irrelevant to Netflix now and would be distracting. --Zfish118 (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree with the merge. A company's attempt to rebrand followed by a retreat is certainly worthy of inclusion in the main article. Rillian (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Yes, merge.--Yankees10 20:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

text: I support merger into Netflix article (with redirect from Qwikster), since this brand actually never launched with customers. Msw1002 (talk) 01:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

text: I support the merge and agree that the information in the current Qwikster article should be supplied in the Netflix article without any reductions.  There are implications beyond Netflix considering business classes in schools will be using this as an example case of what not to do for years to come.  Dismas|(talk) 08:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

text: -- Luk talk 10:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge [[Qwikster]] here? 

message: Now that Qwikster is going away, any word on whether they are still adding games? I was actually looking forward to that --JeffryJohnston (talk) 15:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Found this, "Speaking to the New York Times, Netflix spokesperson Steve Swasey said the availability of games is “to be determined.”", sources: http://www.gamertell.com/technologytell/article/netflix-game-rentals-may-be-in-jeopardy/ and http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/netflix-abandons-plan-to-rent-dvds-on-qwikster/ --JeffryJohnston (talk) 15:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Games? 

message: Does that belong into the lead paragraph, especially the first sentence? Even if it's true, shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere else?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.131.48.27 (talk) 21:51, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Was vandalism and was removed about an hour after it was vandalized. Msw1002 (talk) 02:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overpriced? 

message: There probably should be some mention of the social media campaign to make Netflix stop advertising on the Rush Limbaugh show, but the section I deleted was hopeless. --Uncle Ed (talk) 05:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Campaign to make them pull their ads from a talk show 

message: The eMusic "what links to this" has netflix, yet I cannot find the link back to eMusic on the netflix article. has this since been deleted? Mynewdomicile (talk) 11:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  eMusic Linkage 

message: Looks like this article isn't updated (or possibly even read) very much.  There's nothing in there about the reported reversal 10-Oct-2011, NYT of Netflix's splitting their online and DVD-rental services.  Also, the wording in the second para under Netflix#Internet_video_streaming discusses service plans, in the present tense, with a source dated Jan. 2008.  I'll fix a bit, but this needs attention from someone familiar with the evolution of Netfix over the last few years, as well as developments since the 2011 NYT article. regards, Middle 8 (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of date 

message: I have spell checked this article. There were no spelling mistakes.KF5LLG (talk) 00:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spell Checked 

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Repeats subjects. Needs to be COMPLETELY rewritten, by an expert on the subject. Not clearly written.
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thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Netflix]] 

message: the site's seeming indifference to the fact they're carrying them. Examples: 
* The Harrad Experiment 
* Deep Red (streaming version is censored)
I have more titles but I can't find my notes at the moment. A few of the companies Netflix gets certain titles from are selling them censored/edited titles. This needs to be mentioned in the article. --RThompson82 (talk) 06:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It would need to be discussed by a reliable source first.--70.49.81.140 (talk) 03:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censored versions of movies and... 

message: There should be a mention on the company's lying slogan: "Watch TV shows & movies anytime, anywhere." To them, "anywhere" means 5-6 countries. Once you travel to another one, no matter what subscription you have, you'll get the real picture: "Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country yet." Sorein (talk) 22:16, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention on the funny lying slogan? 

message: In this article's "History" section, there's a leap from 2004 to September 2011. I've found some information to bridge this gap in The Mobile Wave but won't add the info since I work for the company founded by this book's author and am here on the company's behalf. I'll provide the written-up addition and the citation below, can someone else add this?
For the "History" section (new info highlighted in green):
:The company's published subscriber count increased from one million in the fourth quarter of 2002 to around 5.6 million at the end of the third quarter of 2006, to 14 million in March 2010. Netflix's growth has been fueled by the fast spread of DVD players in households; as of 2004, nearly two-thirds of U.S. homes had a DVD player. Netflix capitalized on the success of the DVD and its rapid expansion into U.S. homes, integrating the potential of the Internet and e-commerce to provide services and catalogs that brick and mortar retailers could not compete with. Netflix also operates an online affiliate program which has helped it to build online sales for DVD rentals. 
Here's the citation: 
Any help with adding this new information would be welcome. Thanks, --Rkrueger (talk) 18:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, there are plenty of other reliable sources for that information.  I'll add it, but with other sources. Gigs (talk) 02:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information not yet in "History" 

message: The criticisms section is rather comprehensive, unsurprisingly, but it seems the use of "negative option" is missing from it. Well, not entirely, of course. It does mention, in the throttling lawsuit, that members of the class would be charged for months after their free month if they didn't cancel, but only in passing.
I would think negative option would be the biggest complaint against Netflix.  Negative option is really a scam.  It assumes you agree to pay me money unless you expressibly say you don't within a set period of time.  If I did that, and then took the money, I'd be arrested for theft.  Therefore, not only must negative option be the biggest complaint against Netflix, but it would also be considered fraud.  I don't care enough about Wikipedia to go dig up the sources on this, but they should be easy enough for you Wikifanboys to find if you're really interested in truth.  71.207.183.254 (talk) 15:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative Option 

message: This article explicitly says the service is available in Iceland but I am actually there and when you log in from an Icelandic IP you get an even more explicit message that it is NOT available in Iceland. Also, there is this article from 2012: http://www.zdnet.com/netflix-to-expand-business-over-europe-7000002654/ "Iceland seems to have been left out in the cold, as there is no mention of launching the streaming service there -- at least this year."
194.144.247.254 (talk) 13:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that it is already mentioned about no availability in Iceland in the Infobox under "Areas served" it states: Nordic countries except Iceland . However, thank you for your verification of this. Msw1002 (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Availability in Iceland 

message: I'm not sure whether or not Qwikster is important enough to warrant a section. It didn't even launch. It seems a little off topic, but since I'm not sure, I'm leaving the article the way it is.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.98.244 (talk) 00:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note it is already covered in this (section) of the article. Msw1002 (talk) 02:04, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qwikster? 

message: * Why Is Netflix Secretly Cropping Movies?
Are there any other sources on this?. Nemissimo (talk) 00:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source: Netflix is massively cropping movies 

message: I do not know how to propperly tirle this...
If anyone could write about why Netflix has a different offer in different regions it would be nice.
In Norway (Scandinavia) we pay the equivalent (income v. expenses) as the US Online users, but have access to an inferior amount of movies/tv-shows.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.36.239.13 (talk) 22:44, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences in netflix 

message: I have seen world maps on the Xbox Live and PSN availability could that be added to the Netflix page with its current availability on Earth? -- Sion8 (talk) 03:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could a map be added to the International section? 

message: This is a long article, so this may not be true of every section, but the sections I've just edited read very blatantly as if they were written by the Netflix marketing department. I would respectfully ask the company not to edit its own Wikipedia article. --Tenebrae (talk) 04:58, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotional language

message: As I was doing some research, I was checking sources and citation 197 is a student project - for a class. It is NOT an actual proposal for consideration to Google's board of director to buy Netflix.
You should delete this section since it unfairly values Netflix based on a student report and also erroneously indicates as fact that Google was considering this purchase, which they were not.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.66.114.230 (talk) 02:04, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching this. Section has been removed. Msw1002 (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Information: Finance and Revenue - 2012 

message: I'm a little confused by this article as it seems out of date. The entire article is based on the original offering of DVD-by-mail services. I tried to find information about Netflix DVD mail-order service but apparently doesn't exist any longer in the US. In my opinion, the article should be updated to reflect relevant "historical" information about the DVD-by-mail service, and rather highlight the new streaming service and its popularity. HiTrish (talk) 01:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs updating? 

message: Appropriate to add to article? Wandered across article in Wall Street Journal that says "A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday threw out federal rules requiring broadband providers to treat all Internet traffic equally, raising the prospect that bandwidth-hungry websites like Netflix Inc. might have to pay tolls to ensure quality service." --EarthFurst (talk) 09:01, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. appeals court voiding Net Neutrality 

message: Would Template:Infobox dot-com company be a more appropriate infobox template than Template:Infobox company? --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 19:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:Infobox dot-com company? 

message: Is any of the streaming content downloadable? I would like to have copies of specific old tv programs.1archie99 (talk) 02:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downloads? 

message: In my opinion, everything in the lede beginning with "On February 25, 2007" is tedious, petty and uninformative.  Wikipedia is not a ticker tape.  
I would have inserted a section title "Customer base" to divide the lede in half, but the infobox is so huge it likely would have looked awful.  
If the lede needs to remain long enough to sprawl past the infobox, probably it should contain information about the evolution of the business model (e.g. the bellwether moment that they were once the largest customer of US Post), and areas of intellectual property law where Netflix now occupies a vanguard niche: copyright law, and network neutrality.  
; Edit 
Just about anything other than their userbase crawl would be less trite. — MaxEnt 13:05, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede packed with petty statistics 

message: Pipelight isn't the only option for getting Netflix on Linux, now. HTML5 and a Chrome beta lets you access Netflix natively.
http://techreport.com/news/26897/new-chrome-beta-enables-html5-netflix-on-linux
I've tried it and it works perfectly so far. Is that worth updating the article for?
Masonmouse (talk) 01:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial Netflix on Linux 

message: The article states that Weinstein, Disney and Dreamworks movies are available on Netflix.  I subscribe to Netflix, but find no 2013 movies from Disney or Weinstein.  Pretty much the only recent hit movies I've ever seen on Netflix were the Avengers and the Hunger Games.
:I think that's explained in this article. I think it would be a good idea to update the Netflix wikipedia article with information from this reference. There's currently no "critical reception" paragraph, but i think the following quote should be added: "Netflix is no longer where you go to find something great -- it’s where you go to kill some time with whatever it has available." Granted, it's written as a column but i find it a very infromative reference.PizzaMan (♨♨) 11:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No one disagrees? Going once, going twice... PizzaMan (♨♨) 14:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie availability 

message: There is far too much detail in the LEAD section, giving a quarter by quarter sales report. If no-one objects I am going to trim it down to highlights. Consistent with WP:LEADJamieBrown2011 (talk) 05:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much detail in LEAD