Talk:List of Sailor Moon episodes/Archive 2

message: Here's one page of a crazy website that goes into way more detail than we'll ever need to--it's even got screenshots! Woo! http://smuncensored.com/comparison.php?episodeid=7 Anyway, it can probably be utilized to find large changes to the dub, but we don't need to go nuts and find all of them. --Masamage 09:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another resource 

message: Should a rough MOTD profile go into the episode summaries? (as in a section) I was thinking like listing out attacks, posting a basic image of the monster. This would combine it with one-shot characters that become the monster too. If there is no MOTD, then leave out the section, or just note the main enemy for that day. --Hitsuji Kinno 21:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, the obsessive-compulsive side of me is all over that. X) But I fear it may qualify as fancruft in terms of how detailed this really needs to get... I don't know if we can really report anything about Monsters of the Day that would be meaningful to anyone but a wild'n'crazy fan. --Masamage 00:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll ask the Anime project then... because they seem to think some wild and crazy fandom is OK, I jjust want to know which parts. --Hitsuji Kinno 16:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like the motion passed as long as we keep it simple. Where should it go and I would assume "Monster of the Day" would be a sufficient name? I would think listing basic creation, master and notable attacks, with maybe an image would be enough without having to do overload. --Hitsuji Kinno 02:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mm...I don't know that I agree. It got three replies; one was me, one was a "keep it minimal" vote, and one was someone saying "I don't know what that is, but sure." That doesn't feel like consensus. --Masamage 07:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I second that 'keep it minimal' idea?  I'd say just name the thing, and say where it came from.  (So that if they come up again, eg. in Sailor Moon video games, we can link to the episode article)  Anything else, like it's powers, could really be incorporated into the plotline, I think, and The Oracle has more detailed MOTD profiles for enthusiastic fans.  - Malkinann 06:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good point, we can even provide external links to her profiles. --Masamage 19:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

text: You mean episode articles? --Masamage 10:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right.  For example: Ep. 001 has the first appearence of Usagi Tsukino, Luna, Mamoru Chiba, Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask, plus the first use of "Moon Prism Power, Make Up!" and the first use of Moon Tiara Action.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 20:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think we should do that. It just comes with the plot description, though, doesn't it? "Luna gives her a pen..." or "The Holy Grail opens up" or other such... --Masamage 21:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MOTD Profiles

message: Should the list with the characters, etc be added.. the template? Should I also add the see alsos, etc?--Hitsuji Kinno 01:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, the main template definitely should. Good catch. What 'see alsos' were you thinking of? --Masamage 19:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for not signing last time.. --; I wasn't really sure which See Alsos, but perhaps it should be voted on what should go down there? --Hitsuji Kinno 01:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki>{{Sailormoon}}</nowiki> template add?

message: In some Buffy episodes eg. Lessons_%28Buffy_episode%29#Writing - there's some information on the overall arc significance, continuity, pop-culture references, and quotes from each episodes.  Would this be a worthwhile addition to the article? -Malkinann 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whew. Probably someday that would be awesome, but we've got a lot on our plates already. I'm reluctant. --Masamage 01:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries.  Maybe after all the articles are created are looking reasonably decent.  - Malkinann 02:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Not yet, We haven't even finished making the first series uniform (or created pages for the others) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lego3400 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Writing?

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thread_title: Automated Peer Review

message: Anyone who watches these articles but not WP:SM should be aware of this discussion, in which we are considering doing away entirely with the individual episode articles. --Masamage 05:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impending decision about episode articles 

message: The format of this article is based upon that of Sailor Moon episode 001--please dicuss changes there. Alterations to make this article fit it better are welcome! --Masamage 05:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template

message: I had had the idea to bold each character's name the first time it is mentioned in an episode, which is why Motoki's was like that. Is that workable, or would it just be confusing? I can't decide. :) --Masamage 22:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I'm sorry! I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess it would make sense, but I've never seen that in any other anime/manga article, so that's why I did it. I'll revert it back. Thanks for the tip! --Tohru Honda13Sign here! 00:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No need to apologize! If you disagree with it, you can totally get rid of it; I'm not terribly emotionally invested in it. :) I just wanted to explain what it was doing there in the first place. --Masamage 00:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok. But I'll leave it alone, it seems like a great idea. And if you see ND or TBC in my edit summaries, they mean Not Done and To Be Continued. Just to show I'm not done copyediting. It seems pointless, but I've gotten in a rut of doing those abreviations... oh well. What do you think of the work so far? Of course, TBC. :D --Tohru Honda13Sign here! 00:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motoki's name 

message: Do the fortune tellers have specific names? Oh, and I rephrased this sentence:
" A new fortune teller has just set up a shop nearby, so no one comes to the old fortune teller any more."
to
"Since the arrival of the new fortune teller, the old fortune teller attracted less visitors than usual."
...as I thought that sounded a little better. But I'm considering removing that statement, because it jumps from the fortune teller everyone was talking about to that sentence up there, then to Usagi paying for a palm reading. Or I could move this sentence elsewhere, since the old fortune teller is mentioned when Usagi flips her shoe for a decision. If I delete that sentence, I could be removing vital information, as to why she's choosing over the two. What do you think? --Tohru HondaSign here! 04:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The rephrasing is definitely better, first off. And I think you're right it could probably be worked in better; my thought is to put it wherever that's explained in the episode itself. I haven't seen this episode, but I get the impression that the existence of two different fortune tellers comes up in conversation between Usagi and her classmates. So maybe it should be mentioned that the classmates tell her that? Then, rather than "Usagi comes upon the famous fortune teller her classmates all talk about so enthusiastically," which goes back in time a little to tell us that this had been discussed earlier, you could actually mention that discussion when it happens, and have Usagi just meet the guy with no backstory required. Also, it's a little unclear which fortune teller she goes to in the first place. --Masamage 05:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't know who told Usagi about the first fortune teller; she's running somewhere and happens across him, noting that there's usually a long line there. The man tells her the youma fortuneteller is taking his business, and she asks him to read her palm. The youma house is subbed as "House of Fortune". -- RattleMan 05:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? That's the name? --Tohru HondaSign here! 06:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what the ADV DVD subs says.  -- RattleMan 06:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So the fortune teller that all of her classmates talk about is the youma fortune teller? --Tohru HondaSign here! 06:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Naru tells Umino about the youma fortuneteller, and that's why he goes there. We don't hear anything about the youma fortuneteller until then, and we aren't told exactly why the others are going there as well. The old man fortuneteller tells Usagi about the youma one. -- RattleMan 06:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: All three of the references used in the article are really good, especially the episode summaries. You can probably also find the entire thing on Youtube. --Masamage 07:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I'll start tommorow, it's pretty late in my timezone to be reading this talk page over and over and over, then search through the article to rewrite and add what has been discussed. Thanks for the help everyone! --Tohru HondaSign here! 07:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem! Thank you! --Masamage 07:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I used some of the references to add some info. Could someone check what I did, to make sure I didn't forget anything? Thanks. --Tohru HondaSign here! 20:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if Usagi pays to have her palm read, we don't see anything like that (though one would assume so). I made some really small changes (including wikilinking "school uniform", as that's what Umino is disobeying with his new clothing). Great job! -- RattleMan 21:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can't be credited for everything, it's yours and Masamage's help that made me make those changes. Really, thanks for everything, it was such a great help. I'll be working a bit more on it later. --Tohru HondaSign here! 21:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've realzed I just added spam by linking to it. Oops. So, instead, I'll just leave the subbed name there. Sorry. --Tohru HondaSign here! 04:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's generally frowned upon to link out to external images, since that sort of thing is really easy to abuse. That's why it got reverted; on principle rather than in specific. Anyway, we don't need to make a reference to the name "House of Fortune"--it's not a shop title, it's just the generic term "fortune-tellers' house" as translated from Japanese. --Masamage 04:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Boy, do I feel stupid. Well, that was my mistake. Anyways, how does the article look? I mean the copyediting. I'm thinking about adding this to the League of Copyeditor's project page under Articles Ready for final proofread (another copyeditor will look proofread this). I think I've done pretty much that I can, but I will look for more mistakes. As for the article structure, I've been looking at episode 001 and thinking about ways to make it similar to that. Any thoughts? Again, sorry for linking to an image. --Tohru HondaSign here! 04:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, well, it took me a while to come to that conclusion myself. ^_^;; But, yes! It's looking much, much better now; I'm excited to see what a follow-up editor might think. Thank you again! And don't feel bad; you were reverted by a robot designed to detect links to Imageshack, not a real person who really thought you were spamming. Nothing to worry about. :) --Masamage 05:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, the article has been proofread by the League of Copyeditors. If you still see some more mistakes, please fix them. Cheers! --♥Tohru Honda13♥ 04:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much. :D We really needed that help. It's so appreciated. --Masamage 04:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not yet. Another editor and I have thought that there should be another proofreader to check again, just in case. Someone else should come by and help out. Cheers, --♥Tohru Honda13♥ 07:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All right, copyediting is finshed. User:Rintrah has copyedited it (superbly) and left some hidden notes on some things we need to clarify. Cheers, ♥Tohru Honda13♥ 07:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fortune tellers 

message: Are they really necessary, because the spoilers are clearly in the "plot summary" section? — Deckiller 03:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well...you and I are familiar enough with WP that when we see the words "Plot summary" or "Synopsis," we know that we can expect a certain amount of spoilery detail. Someone who is new to the 'pedia, though, might not realize how much they're about to learn, so we plug those tags in even though the section headers already make that implication. After poking around a little, I see the tags used that way in every film-related Featured Article I clicked, like Casablanca (film), or Pilot (House). This latter one is also about a very early TV episode, so I guess an episode's relative insignificance doesn't matter. --Masamage 04:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler tags

message: Historical note: This article was rated Start class on the WP:Anime scale. It was being copyedited by WP:LoCE.
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The format of this article is based upon that of Sailor Moon episode 001--please dicuss changes there. Alterations to make this article fit it better are welcome! --Masamage 06:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 003

message: The format of this article is based upon that of Sailor Moon episode 001--please dicuss changes there. Alterations to make this article fit it better are welcome! --Masamage 06:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template

message: Once again, I'll help copyedit this article. If I make any mistakes myself, please forgive me. This article doesn't really need that much copyediting by the looks of it. Cheers! ♣Tohru Honda13♣ 00:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyedit

message: Youma is technically not an American word nor has an equivalent, but Japanese lacks plurals. Shouldn't the foreign words follow the rules of the foreign countries, such as when you say "Ma vie" you don't drop the "ma"? So it should be "Youma" etc. --Hitsuji Kinno 01:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 005

message: wouldnt this Sailor says make more sence if he was sexist?? in the english hes polite and it looks like he could be converted to good (like nephright) ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 16:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 012

message: "It was never dubbed by DiC for some reason."
Either state the reason, or say it was not dubbed... is this an OK change? --Hitsuji Kinno 05:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: wasnt the reasion because they were in swimsuits ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 20:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to "unknown reasons". --Masamage 21:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 020

message: By the look of the animation style, it appears that Masahiro Ando did the directing for this episode. It has always been one of my favourite episodes because of the cute style that Ando uses. I will get out my DVD for this episode from Japan and see if the kanji for Ando's name is listed. Fighter4luv 07:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do note that that section of the infobox is commented out. Feel free to uncomment it when you find all of that information; the Air date can be snagged off the episode list itself. And thanks! ^^ --Masamage 07:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 033

message: My favourt line in DiC history is when prince "darien" says "this queen beryl came out of nowhere"... how lazy are DiC that not only can't they be botherd to proply translate they can't be asked to make up a storyline ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 10:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 044

message: I have an excellent quality image of the shot of the 5 Senshi holding the Moon Stick. If you would prefer it, let me know and I will upload it. ~ Fighter4luv 08:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Part of what allows us to use images is the fact that they're low quality. I guess if your image is clearer than this even when equally small, that would be good, though. --Masamage 18:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 046

message: I moved this so that instead of an '88' in the title, it's now '088'. Just so you know. :) --Masamage 23:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sailor Moon episode 088