Talk:All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 film)

message: The 1930 version of this film is very good, and is on the AFI's top 100 years 100 movies list so im giving it its own article. There is no consensus so if your gonna move it back please dont move it until im done completley por favor. WalterWalrus3 21:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great minds think alike; by coincidence I have rewritten this section. I'm slightly confused though. It looks as if the French reach the German front lines, the Germans retreat to a second line, and then they counter-attack and capture their own front line again, which is being held by the French. However the dialogue ("We can't hold this position, men - back to your own lines!") implies that the German counter-attack swept on, into the French trenches. The end result is the same though. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 22:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: I remember this film being almost impossible to get hold of for several years; at least in the UK the only "All Quiet on the Western Front" that you could buy in the 1980s and 1990s was the 1979 television film. Was there a legal reason for this, or was the film simply too old and worn to sell? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 22:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Available

message: I removed this from the "releases" section:
*During the Korean War, the film was reedited to stir pro-war sentiments, rather than being a largely anti-war film.
as it was unsourced and seemed dubious to me.  If I'm incorrect, please don't hesitate to restore it to the article with a citation for verification. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 06:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed dubious fact

message: I've seen plots summaries of movies shorter than this that have been tagged for shortening - is someone going to distill the summary?
Additionally, the article describes the acclaim this movie received. However, I read Remarque's book before I saw this. The movie massacres the book. It's an insult to tack on Remarque's name and the title of his book; they might have done so only to ride the book's acclaim. The position of the movie juxtaposes that of the book, and the movie really wasn't anti-war. Someone should include a section on criticism of the movie.
75.209.196.75 (talk) 01:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not uncommon for movies to take 'artistic license' with the books they portray, for brevity sake or whatever. What may be needed is a section for Differences Between the Novel and the Film. Seems I've seen that done on several Wiki movie entries. Either way, it needs to be sourced... Engr105th (talk) 05:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot Summary and "Criticism"

message: The first line of the Production paragraph says "In the film, Paul is shot while trying to draw a butterfly just outside his trench." When I saw this movie years ago, I seem to recall he was reaching for the butterfly - no sketching was involved. Is this a conflation with the 1970s movie, starring Richard Thomas (where he indeed gets distracted and expose himself while sketching a bird?)...I no longer have my copy of the 1930s original film...Engr105th (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Production section: the butterfly scene & Baumer's death

message: The "International Sound Version" version ("silent" version with titles), restored by the Library of Congress, premiered on Turner Classic Movies on Sept. 28, 2011     
But i seem to have a Library of Congress restored version on DVD 2005 ? 
TCM.com
""When All Quiet on the Western Front was sold to television in the '50s, it was cut by about 35 minutes and background music was added to the final scenes. Before his death, director Lewis Milestone begged Universal to restore the film to its original form. They finally did in 1998, with the help of the Library of Congress, though by then some of the cut footage was lost. The current running time is 133 minutes, seven minutes shorter than the version that first premiered in 1930."
Alternate Versions TCM website
www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/67079/All-Quiet-on-the-Western-Front/alternate-versions.html
"In 1939, the film was re-released with two major changes: the first was the addition of a voice-over narration comparing the WWI German soldiers depicted quite favorably to the Nazi army that had just begun to sweep across Europe. The second change was the addition of a new scene at the end, showing Nazis burning books -- including the one on which the film is based.
 
Re-issue prints (particularly for 1940's and later TV releases) were cut by some 35 minutes and the soundtrack altered by the distributor, especially during the final sequence where music was added contrary to director Lewis Milestone's wishes. In 1980, before his death, Milestone asked Universal to restore the film and remove the music to the final scene. In 1998, about 30 minutes were reinstated to resemble the original 1930 cut, and Milestone's wishes were finally honored.
 
The silent (synchronized sound, non-dialogue) version is 133 minutes long and was restored by the Library of Congress. It was prepared for Universal's own cinemas (they were one of the last exhibitors to convert to sound) and shown in France and Australia and possibly elsewhere, but never in Britain until Sunday 23 November 2003."
 
www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/67079/All-Quiet-on-the-Western-Front/articles.html
Library of Congress restoration mentioned or finished in 1996 already!
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1996-09-01/news/1996245099_1_film-library-of-congress-quiet
And how about (extra) restoration for the Universal 100th  Blu-Ray versions?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUFefkVVuA
77.172.196.228 (talk) 13:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restored versions 

message: The article says that two minutes were cut from the British version, does anyone know what scene this was? Historian932 (talk) 18:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What scene(s) did U.K. censors cut? 

message: That was true during the Vietnam War era anyway.  I remember this personally. Can anyone dig up support for this?47.20.160.104 (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  derided as quasi-Communist and a bad influence on youth 

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