Talk:Management of ulcerative colitis

message: This article should cite that severe case of colitis can be cured with 'poop' transplant, as explained here http://www.the-scientist.com/news/display/57795/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalloliogm (talk • contribs) 12:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Except where it isn't cured, hence, doesn't count, for some people. It's a complex problem, hence the solution is not so simplistic. If anything, it would be a third potential treatment, after two far more effective treatments are attempted and met with minimal success or even failure. Of course, you offered zero citations, so I'll return that level of respect.Wzrd1 (talk) 03:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poop transplant 

message: I like the reference to vitamin U, but I'm not sure that identifying it as a chloride (alkaloid?) is very helpful. The simple juice extract of cabbage is helpful, but the whole leaf is probably better and cheaper. BrewJay (talk) 11:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  <nowiki>{{fixme}}</nowiki> 

message: I moved the following section to here, because I think it is out of the scope of this article, and is already dealt with in Ulcerative_colitis#Clinical_presentation. Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:16, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Content out of scope

message: The section on herbal treatment used the term "drugs" in a pejorative manner, suggesting that an herb is a natural alternative to a drug. Rather, both are drugs meant to treat a condition, with the difference being that one is synthetic (manufactured) and the other is of natural origin. I added the term manufactured to drop the pejorative sense.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.156.131 (talk) 10:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully disagree. Morphine is derived from a natural source, indeed, it can be dosed (somewhat chaotically) from the poppy sap to a patient, hence it is NOT synthetic, yet BOTH are still drugs. Indeed, laudanum WAS a drug in common use until morphine and codeine were separated from the plant residue. Laudanum was produced by simply placing the dried sap of the poppy into alcohol, I guess that is synthetic in some views. Manufactured, purified drug from natural source or come up with some other alternative, but otherwise, drug vs herbal treatments IS a valid separation. And I HAVE been known to use herbal medicine for some emergent uses, when a drug wasn't available, but certain herbs and other plant matter were available. Sorry, but SCIENCE can't cut only one way.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Drugs" 

message: The probiotics section lacks citations completely. As such, it shouldn't actually be part of this article at all, and opens the door to random additions. Prayer, spaghetti monster, etc. I left it in, worrying this is a gray area as it is plausible (though plausibility is *not* sufficient for including in an encyclopedia article) and flagged it as "citation needed". I deleted the following sentence:  One study looked at a probiotic known as VSL-3 has shown promise for people with ulcerative colitis. There is no article for VSL-3, the study is not even named, let alone referenced. So this is a mystery substance with a mystery study, and as such I think fails the smell test for inclusion here. If someone can find the study, check the reference for suitability, I think the reference would be OK, better yet if they can make an article on VSL-3 before citing it as treatment for ulcerative colitis. People will be reading this article looking for treatment advice so I think facts are particularly important.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.156.131 (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd conditionally agree, save that the established science doesn't back removal, only clarification and CITATIONS, PEOPLE! THERE, I agree, though I lack sufficient time to provide them. I've READ publicly available documents from NIH and other sources, it shouldn't take much effort for authors with a few minutes of time to include them! Though, those articles mentioned only mild effectiveness of said treatment.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probiotics 

message: Almost nothing is cited in this article. I picked up on it once it got down to making statements in the alternative section. The science section describes the condition, lists the treatment protocol, and so forth, without citing anything at all. It sounds accurate but is it accurate? What's this based on? I flagged the entire thing as needing citations as a result. Not a big wikipedia editor, but a colitis sufferer and I would like to know what is authoritative and what is speculation from people trying to sell crap.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.156.131 (talk) 10:52, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article remains the same, a lot of uncited information, hence, OR information, hence worthy of deletion. Kindly honor Wilipedia's values and CITE sources with statements or risk having OR deleted.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:10, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations 

message: These publications are mostly about Crohn's, but might be promising for UC:
http://www.ima.org.il/IMAJ/ViewArticle.aspx?year=2011&month=08&page=455
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cgh.2013.04.034
The latter is very promising, but this article is not included in my university's subscription and thus costs 30 USD.
--ebi. (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannabis 

message: I was wondering if "treatment of complications" should be another section, which would include all the "treatments off" (proctitis, pancolitis etc). Rather than just under medication. Any thoughts on this? Pishoygouda (talk) 04:39, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: So no one has been on here for a while... so i just took the liberty of seeing how it looks! Let me know what you think! Pishoygouda (talk) 00:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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