Talk:Kane (Command & Conquer)

message: At the end of the original installation program of Red Alert 2, technical specifications are displayed on almost every vehicle. Each vehicle is shown in 3-4 views, with divisions marked and labeled in short paragraphs, all illegible. One of them is the prism tank, and this is the only spec with a person in it, behind the tank, with a gun, in the bottom view. I honestly believe that this is Kane, although there is no physical resemblance, because the label pointing to this character states in four barely-legible words, this is Kane ********, for the last word is long, and cannot be read. Kane’s last name? I will add this to the article when I have a picture. What is Wikipedia’s requirements for conjecture ideas?
-Helios Rex
:I have the image here http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/5484/lol1ld.png
:I really doubt that is is Kane and that word looks like it begins with an M more than a K to me and it looks slightly too long to be Kane in my opinion. --Rim-Fire 18:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks more like an easter egg, to be honest. --Darthkillyou (talk) 04:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance in Red Alert 2 

message: I have added quotes which were worth adding, and I have also corrected some of the older ones as they weren't entirely literal quotes from the original cutscenes of the games.  I've also removed the quote of "Control the media, control the mind." as I don't remember Kane ever saying this in any of the games (the quote is from CABAL in the second cutscene of Tiberian Sun's NOD campaign actually).  If you can verify that Kane actually did say this at one point or another however, then feel free to re-add it of course. GoodLuckDie 09:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: I find it much more likey that Yuri was once not but broke away and Nod decided not to back the soviets again and  fought Yuri. THere were all those times people avoided mind control I like to think they were nod.
*Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge are not connected to the C&C storyline. Jareand 01:31, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yuri

message: It has been mistakenly assumed that CABAL had cloned Kane at the end of Firestorm; however if one were to notice that upon closer observation, the face plate and scars are still on his face and head. One may assume that if he were cloned, his damage from Tiberian Dawn (Facial Plate, Burns) would be gone.
I would like to say, this is true, you would not see the burns or scarring. BUT you must also understand, that CABAL is trying to use people to do his own ends (in the end encorporating everything into his system). It is possible that he is purposely inserting these blemishes to make any sort of cloned kane as much like the original as possible.
What I am trying to point at is, if you were something trying to take over the world, and were using a powerful military organization with a figurehead that has died long ago, but you have some of his DNA, wouldn't you not only clone him, but also clone the blemishes so that no one would be like "If thats such-and-such, where did his mole/burn/scar/etc go?" and prevent doubt from arising?
One may also realise CABAL stands for Computer Assisted Biologically Augmented Lifeform; meaning Kane and all the other humans in this scene are part of CABAL's system at this time. Therefore, CABAL is not cloning Kane
This is not a valid point. The meaning of an acronym does not always reflect what the function is.
He actaully COULD be cloning kane, and using NOD to his own ends. I mean, why wouldn't he?
Now I do not know why he would make so many clones, but hey, thats the vague C&C storyline for you. Just illuminating possibilities.
:Well considering what the abbr CABAL means, and what a Cabal is, I'd assume that's what was intended.
Or perhaps the damage done to Kane wasn't purely cosmetic. Could he have been mutated? Perhaps that's why he won't show his face. If so, wouldn't the damage be on a genetic level and thus transferred to a clone? Custodes 11:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  'Cabal is only the beginning' i believe Kane was in control not the other way around. he likely set Cabal loose on purpose while he recovers. Akinkhoo (talk) 19:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A comment on cloning 

message: I've done a pretty large rewrite on the bulk of the article.  Hope it meets with everyone's approval.  80.201.107.122 21:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: Someone removed the assessment request from  the CVG Assessment page, but as the assesser was the person who had made the request, I decided to swing on by anyways.  I'm lowering the rating to Start-class, because while the game appearances section is very well laid out, it is entirely in-universe, there is no lead, and only one reference.  Please provide more information on the character's development in the real world, rather than just a quick sentence on who the actor was.  --PresN 20:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CVG Assessment

message: Anyone else notice that the visual effect shown when Kane "disappeared" just as the world-altering missile was launched in the Tiberian Sun NOD ending cutscene seems rather identical to the visual effect shown in the Red Alert 1 intro movie that depicts Albert Einstein and his assistant teleporting him back in time to erase Adolf Hitler from the timeline? I believe this is exactly how Kane escaped from the Ion Cannon in the Temple in Tiberian Dawn in the first place (though he obviously didn't warp himself out quick enough to escape facial scarring), and given the fact that the Red Alert story arc serves as the literal predecessor to the Tiberian story arc (i.e. they take place in the exact same timeline and not in alternate timelines), it could be assumed that Kane somehow has access to that very same technology. This would also explain why he never seems to age and has been working for Stalin in Red Alert 1 yet continues to lead the Brotherhood in Tiberian Wars. Tacitus666 03:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  there might be more then 1 kane... cloning... time travel... were both concept used in red alert. he disappeared from the launch center does look like chronoshift. the Einstein intro was my favourite openning of all time! where westwood flashes the same way as the chronoshifting. they really spend alot of time making the production a unique piece of work instead of just another game. EA tried to do the same with their logo, but the sound effect and timing just couldn't do it... director need more time to be creative i think ^^;  Akinkhoo (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to Einstein's time-travel technology in Red Alert 1 

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message: How is this guy a popular guy? Everyone likes GDI due to their versatility. Kane is now Ascension obsessed. I watch Youtube and he is a favorite villain. Is he hero or villain? He and the Brotherhood saved people suffering in Yellow Zones. He called himself the Messiah. Messiah means Hero. Hero means good guy. He even made the Black Hand and Confessors wear Capes and dark armor. GDI and Nod argued between each other and fight to be good guys. IG Nod helped people in Yellow Zones. GDI tries to get rid of the Scrin and succeded. He's a fantastic pantomime villain and we love him for it. Yes, he IS a villain, unless we're doing the old "I'm-a-member-of-Nod" roleplay thing here. He even tries to use a World-Altering missile on earth, and nuked the Philadelphia and tries to make GDI extinct due to the Pentagon was the solo HQ of GDI. That missile might or might not transform those people and might or might not kill them. It also destroys the oceans and turn the Earth into a Red Zone infested planet causing the Scrin to invade and harvest right away with more forgotten, visoroids and tiberium wildlife. The humans like who they originally were, just regular humans. NOT mutants like Marauders. (TougHHead 21:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this in any way contribute to the encyclopedia and in particular, this article? If not, why place it here? - Simeon87 22:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  1st, he is popular. 2nd, he is the most important guy in the game (GDI or NOD, he's influence is the biggest!). 3rd, what you got against batman? can't a hero like black? 4th, to understand the man you need to know what he is trying to achieve; he is pro-posthuman, it is by nature that life will evole and he is just speeding thing up and not giving people a choice! >:) (but then US is unwilling to sign the kyoto protocol to save us from the heat so?). last, GDI is not all good guy either; they are a rebranding of the G8. they deny trade to countries which government are "uncooperative", but at the end it is not the government that suffer, it is the people and that only help those government direct hate against the developed world as "the oppressors of progress". while NOD is more evil, they do have reasons for gaining popular support. if evil can't be popular, hitler's nazi party wouldn't gain power the 1st place would he? Akinkhoo (talk) 19:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular? Friend or Foe? Good guy or Bad Guy? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:KaneNewTiberiumWars.jpg

message: Some of the intel pieces from KW come from Kane when he was in a tube.  I am presuming it was in the ones seen at the end of Firestorm; the article should be updatet to reflect this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.228.119 (talk) 01:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kane's Wrath Intel Database

message: The article refers to the Biblical figure of Seth as being also mentioned in the Quran; trust me when I say that no where in the Quran does he appear, whether under that name or an Arabic equivalent of it. In fact, I don't think there's any mention of him in Islam, except perhaps in few hadiths/traditions (I'm not quite sure; if anyone can contact an expert on the matter, it would be helpful). MARQ 02:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, these parts of the article would benefit from the opinion of someone with a real background in Islamic sholarship.  Until then, I'm a bit hesitant to entirely remove the Quran reference on Seth however, exactly because of him apparently being mentioned within these hadiths.  I've reworded the relevant parts of the article for the time being though, in order to better reflect this new information which you have provided.  Kalamrir (talk) 08:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of Seth in the Quran 

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message: This article was possibly vandalised by some kind of a feminist weirdo - just look at this: 
Kane is the seemingly immortal  woman mastermind  behind the ancient and secretive Brotherhood of Nod society. Little is truly known about the woman...
And so on... There are many similar edits in the page, I'd suggest taking a better look on the article and fixing this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.154.168.20 (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If it was a real feminazi, it would have been "womyn" instead of "woman". And this may be a joke due to the fact that before C&C 4 was released that he joked about Kane being revealed as a woman, along with the game being a musical.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.30.189.247 (talk) 11:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Feminist vandals?

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