Talk:Slovak National Uprising

message: I reverted the last edits by 87.197.176.72 because I see them as pure vandalism. For example, 87.197.176.72 changed the word "uprising", which is a good description of what happened in 1944, into "riots", the "anti-Nazi resistance movement" into "pro-czech underground and communist movement", and the "Czechoslovakian government in exile" into the "puppet personal dicatorship". In addition to POV pushing, those edits were written in poor English (e.g. "tarror", "autoritarian", "to restore of sth."). 87.197.176.72 also added a link to a website of a political party, which has been recently declared by a Slovak court to attempt destruction of the democratic regime in Slovakia. I think this link, included in the main text by the way, shows whose POV the IP tried to push. Tankred 12:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by 87.197.176.72 

message: I took the freedom to change the second paragraph. I think that now it better depicts the "controversy".
:Good job. Tankred 19:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second paragraph 

message: From the article: "…an armed insurrection organized by the Slovaks…" What does it even mean to say that an ethnicity organized an insurrection? - Jmabel | Talk 00:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your comment. I have fixed that. Tankred 21:02, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Agency

message: 1) most of Slovak histography regards that Casus belli of uprising was more complicated, then "Nazi influence in Slovakia" as it is in said in article. Uprising (as struggle of 1st Czechoslovak Army in Slovakia, that was the official name of the insurrence army) started after the German troops crossed Slovak borders on West and Northwest. Nazi troops were ordered to occupate Slovak republic after growing activity of partisain movement in Slovakia, that started to harm German supply and logistic roots of Army Group Nord Ukrajine fighting in Eastern Carpathians, Southern Poland and Eastern Hungary. In addition: Slovak partisan groups were mostly (but not in overall) organized or led by Soviet officers, that had little or no evidence about preparation of uprising. Mainly because cooperation between anti-nazi officers of Slovak army and Soviets (including soviet partisans) was unadequate. Only on 2 August 1944 Slovak He 111 with cpt. Mikuláš Ferjenčík (representative of anti-nazi resistence in Slovak army) and Karol Šmidke (representative of Slovak communist party) secretly flew to meet with Soviet side in Vinnitsa (Ukrajine). But plane was damaged by AAA fire and forced to land in field few kilometers behind Soviet lines. When finaly Slovak negotiatiors meet the Soviet officials, the negotiations were slow.
2) Insurrence 1st Czechoslovak Army in Slovakia can't be defined as Slovak Republic (1939-1945) as it is in Infobox. Even though the leaders of insurrence army were Slovaks, they opposed the regime of Slovak republic, which became German puppet. They knew that existence of independent Slovak state is impossible after defeat of Nazi Germany and relied on reconstruction of Czechoslovak republic.
--91.127.14.155 09:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some misunderstanding of Slovak National Uprising in en.wiki 

message: The infobox in the article lists "Hermann Höfle" as the commander of the SS units tasked to counter-strike the SNU, with a wikilink to SS-Sturmbannführer Hermann Höfle (*1911 - †1962), notorious for his role in the "Operation Reinhard" (and the telegraph he sent to the RSHA revealing the numbers of victims of the "Operation" during july - december 1942); in fact, the commander of the SS units sent to suppress the Uprising was not SS-StBF H. Höfle (a rank comparable to a major) but SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS Hermann Höffle (obviously an SS-general and a general of the W-SS at that time; *1898 - †1947 (executed in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia)); though their names are easy to confuse, they were nevertheless two different persons. Because of this, I'll abolish the wikilink to the StBF H. Höfle article.--84.163.87.242 (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A mistake 

message: Someone should add that this uprising was supported by 21 fighter aicrafts La-5FN , those were operating from airfield Zolna (near Banska Bystrica) . It was a part of :
http://www.czechpatriots.com/csmu/corp-1airregiment.php
They were a part of cs. forces in Soviet Union , they send too an airborne brigade:
http://www.czechpatriots.com/csmu/corp-2brigade.php  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.82.39 (talk) 12:52, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air forces 

message: The infobox lists Golian and Viest as having been killed in action. Both however seem to have been captured and executed at a much later date. I propose we have the infobox correctly display this. D(r)ead End (talk) 12:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fate Leaders Insurgency 

message: Don't like the english in "In the post-war period, many political entities attempted to "hijack" the uprising to their credit mainly the Communists." One could change it to "... to their credit, and among these, in particular the Communists."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masonmilan (talk • contribs) 07:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: This article seems to blame the Soviets for the failure of the uprising: "instead of adhering to the agreed plan, on 30 August Colonel Talský and the entire eastern Slovak Air Force flew to a prearranged landing zone in Poland to join the Soviet Army, and abandoned the two divisions at Prešov. The two divisions, left in chaos and without leadership, were quickly disarmed on the afternoon of 30 August without a single shot. Consequently, the uprising commenced prematurely and lost a crucial component of their plan, as well as the two most heavily armed divisions," and "The main military objectives were not achieved due to the bad timing of the uprising and lack of cooperation by Soviet partisans."
In the Battle of the Dukla Pass article, however, it says: "The Slovak National Uprising was mostly crushed by the time Soviet units secured Slovak territories; one of the main reasons for it was that the German resistance in the Dukla Pass was much heavier than expected. Another factor was that the Slovak insurgent forces failed to secure the other side of the pass, as planned by the Slovak and Soviet commanders during early preparations."
So, which was it? Did the Soviets purposefully betray the Slovaks, sabotaging the plan to seize the other side of the pass by withdrawing leadership and support? Or did the Slovak insurgent forces fail to secure the pass, preventing a rapid Soviet advance that might have saved the uprising?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.146.172.106 (talk) 18:00, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies with article on Dukla Pass 

message: Hi folks, in view of the upcoming SNP anniversary on 29 August, I would like to translate the excellent article from the German Wikipedia into English here. The German article already takes into account all the major sources available in English, alongside authoritative German and Slovak research. Does anyone have an objection to this? Best regards, --3mnaPashkan (talk) 10:55, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of the excellent German article