Talk:Battle of Velikiye Luki

message: Am I the first one to notice that the strategic map does not indicate Velikiye Luki as being in Soviet possession in March 1943? What is the use of a map like that? --Pan Gerwazy 09:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate map

message: I made major alterations to the section dealing with the consequences of the battle. In my opinion, most of the information presented was wrong. The Germans didn't leave Rzhev because of this battle. The transport lines connecting the German Army groups did not go through the city nor were they cut by the fall of the city. Nor did the battle lead in any way to the eventual destruction of Army Group Center. The best that could be said is that it moved the Soviets closer to important targets related to the logistics of Army Group Center. 
I also think the stalingrad comparisons are utterly wrong. This was a fortress in a swamp. In many respects, it was under siege long before the actual battle. The supply situation was difficult even in the best of times and there were no real solid front lines in the area. There was only really one german route into the city which could easily be blocked by the other side. Its very different from the situation at Stalingrad. Rather than Stalingrad, its closer to an early example of Hitler's fortified location defensive strategy from later in the war. 70.234.248.129 (talk) 05:47, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree fervantly.  If you look at the rail map in the lede, it clearly shows that the north south rail lines lead directly into Vitebsk, which was the critical objective of Operation Bagration.  Furthermore, the Russian-made documentary "Soviet Storm" also bluntly said that the loss of Velikiye Luki forced the withdrawl from Rzhev.  You can watch the english translation here http://www.hulu.com/watch/386276#i0,p6,d0 If the link does not work, just go to hulu and search for Soviet Storm, then click on Episode 11.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.251.229 (talk) 03:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  comments on the significance of the battle 

message: There were not 2,000,000 casualties at Stalingrad. These numbers, listed over and over again, are calculated based on defining "Stalingrad" to be the entire Southern part of the Soviet Union in 1942 and part of 1943. 75.106.146.89 (talk) 00:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  2,000,000 casualties at Stalingrad 

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message: According to this book : https://ospreypublishing.com/velikiye-luki-1942-43
only 11 out of ~4500 POW returned to Germany. I feel this is of relevance, but not sure where it's best included.
Gerdolfo (talk) 10:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survival of German POW