Talk:David Whitmer

message: The "excommunicated" section of David Whitmer portrays Whitmer and the LDS Church as bitter enemies. However, the paragraph is written with several inconsistencies and with a lack of complete details (i.e. he was excommunicated prior to the stated vision of sorts). Also, the first paragraph mentions that the presidency of the Church was excommunicated, then that the presidency of the Church called for the expulsion of dissenters (when in fact it was Sidney Rigdon alone, who later was also excommunicated). The number of people that formed the group of "Danites" is unknown, but it's here implied to be a large group whereas in the number listed in the main Danites section is much smaller.
As a rebuttal to the citation at the end of the section (which is out of context and unexplained yet accurate), see also here. I hope to clean this article up, but it'd be nice to note the non-neutrality of this section. ~Araignee (talk • contribs)  16:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand what you believe the problem to be (that may be my fault), but I'll be happy to work with you if there's something that's not supported by Bushman, the major source for this section.--John Foxe (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality of Excommunication section

message: An Anon had originally added the following to the article; I can't find a reference for a denial of this magnitude.  
"He denied ever seeing the plates in a physical manner as we would understand the word today."
If it can be referenced, it should be added back. Storm Rider 04:32, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See the following link for the quote.  It available in other sources too:  http://www.bible.ca/mor-witness-book.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.191.17.168 (talk) 16:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denial of seeing the BofM 

message: I've removed the uncited claim that Whitmer joined Zion's Camp. According to History of the Church vol 2. pp. 183-85, he was not a member. Martin Harris was, and perhaps an editor confused the event in the lives of these two? -SESmith 10:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Zion's Camp participant

message: this sentence is out of place: 
"Whitmer later said that Smith had also incorrectly prophesied that the copyright to the Book of Mormon would be sold in Toronto, Canada.[3]"
the word 'also' implies a previous incorrect prophesy which is not yet discussed. and the topic of the sentence does not flow from the paragraph...
just my 2 cents.  24.10.251.71 (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your comment. I removed the entire statement. The reference states that Smith enquired of the Lord as to why the brethren failed. Smith, after further enquiry of the Lord, stated there are three places from which a prophecy derives, Devil, man, or God. The statement is a synthesis of information and not supported by the reference. We do not lead readers to a conclusion. --StormRider 18:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll spell it out.--John Foxe (talk) 18:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  out of place 

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