Talk:Mexicans in Omaha, Nebraska

message: Freechild, would you be open to having one article that addresses all the ethnic history of Omaha? Personally, the Balkanization of courtries is not something that I favor or think should be encouraged. More importantly, however, I think that that notability is not present in any of the current articles or any of the other proposed articles for Omaha. I am not picking on Omaha, I was a resident for several years in my youth, but there are 18,000 cities in the United States and all of them have an ethnic background. Very few of them would be worthy of individual articles, but all of them would be worth having an article regarding their ethnic history. I hope you recognize that we are seeking to improve Wikipedia. What are your thoughts? --Storm Rider (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your interest in improving WP, and I assume you are acting in good faith. However, I do not agree with your perspective. I would encourage you to broaden the conversation by bringing the article to AfD. – Freechild (¡!¡!¡!¡) 23:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would use that as a last step, but feel comfortable doing so. Is it your contention that every city in the United States needs a separate article to explain their ethnic orgins and the participation of ethnic peoples in the social structure of each respective city? My thought was that toegether we could come to a well thought out structure without the need for broad input, but maybe 30 heads are better than just a few. --Storm Rider (talk) 21:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not wanting to walk into a red herring, I should avoid this question. However, research does show that specific ethnic groups and the identities of individuals within those groups as members of those groups has been instrumental to the growth and development of many American cities. The contributions of specific ethnic identity groups within many cities has been duly noted throughout academic and popular literature, and is worthy of encyclopedic coverage. So, in direct response to your question, I do contend that cities where there has been noted contributions by specific ethnic groups warrant encyclopedic contributions that denote those groups. These ethnic identities are just as worthy - if not more so - as any individual within any city. – Freechild (¡!¡!¡!¡) 22:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think every city has the variety of sources on their ethnic histories that this article demonstrates. If they do, then I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have articles or sections covering those histories. We have articles on towns whose entire populations are smaller than the ethnic population of this city.  ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will, I find your logic faulty. What you are proposing is that a single entity is of little value if it does not maintain a large population base; so an article on Podunk, Indiana (pick a township) is worthless to the reader though it might have served as the home of a past president and the first farm that fed the grain to the stockyards. Conversely, because we have a significant city that is made up of 37 different ethnic groups; each of the groups is worthy of mention but none of them has done anything but lived in Omaha, Nebraska. What is the notability. Given the Federal Census data in the United States we can have a plethora of articles about the ethnic breakdown of every city in the US through 1930. We then can combine that with other data that will state what the ethnic breakdown is for each city since 1930. What is the result??? We will have over 700,000 articles that address the fact that each city in the United States had specific ethinic minorities that lived in each. This amounts to trivia about each city, but absolutely no information helpful to readers. Now, if we had articles on each city (which we do) and we mentioned their ethnic makeup we have at least provided information in a concise manner that aids readers without burying the information in minutiae. --Storm Rider (talk) 03:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said that small towns are unworthy of articles. The Wikipedia community has decided that virtually every town, no matter its size, is worthy of an article. Likewise, every high school. Regarding your second point, I douibt we'll see 700,000 articles like this. I doubt we'll see even 700. But space isn't a problem.  ·:· Will Beback ·:· 15:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge into single article "Ethnic history of Omaha, Nebraska

message: In one of your references, I read that in 1900 Hispanics/Latinos were about 22% of the population and in 1990 (or today?) were about 26% (as I recall), but you have data above that says 2.9%, which sounds really low. Is this accurate or a typo? I'll try to find the other reference, too.--Parkwells (talk) 03:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Data on Demographics

message: The article needs to have population numbers in total and for each of the groups. It is too difficult to try to understand what's going on. In the population section you don't have numbers, but percentages, with nothing to apply the percentages to. In one place the article says there were 20,000 families, but not total number of people.--Parkwells (talk) 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Population

message: In one place the article says that Southside Omaha gets four visits a year from the Mobile Consulate out of Denver; in another place it says that Mexico has an Consular Office in Omaha, and gives the address. Are these both true? How do they relate to each other?--Parkwells (talk) 20:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mexican Consulate

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