Talk:Nikola Karev

message: We seem to have focused too much on the first few lines of the dialog. As GriefForTheSouth says, he Karev describes himself as "Bugarofon", a person who things like a Bulgarian, like every other Bulgarian. ForeignerFromTheEast 16:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget that he doesn't give a description of the term 'bugarofron', it's interpreted later. iNkubusse? 17:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, by a Macedonian scholar. ForeignerFromTheEast 17:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. And since when do you take Macedonian scholars as normal people? I thought they were all delirious. iNkubusse? 20:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The more I read your disputes the more trivial this whole thing seems to me. He said Bugarofon not Bulgarian therefore he did not say he is BulgarianIreland101 21:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Inkubusse, so do you agree or disagree with the assessment of the Macedonian Scholar? ForeignerFromTheEast 21:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends on which one, but my opinion really doesn't matter. iNkubusse? 23:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Elefteria Bambakovska. ForeignerFromTheEast 23:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Back to the interview

message: Letter from Nikola Karev to Goce Delčev:	
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Dear G(oce)		
... In Kruševo and Bitola the night blockades appear almost every day, and a lot of affairs throw people in jail. We shouldn't wait anymore, Goce. It is time for us to stand up and fight. We shouldn't wait for freedom from Greeks, neither from Bulgarians, but we Macedonians should fight for our Macedonia, ... As I am concerned, nobody can take away my courage and my patriotism. I am proud to report to you, that all our men are prepared to fight, with guns in their hands.
N(ikola)
::“Сами ние да се бориме за наша Македонија”, (Необјавено писмо на Никола Карев до Гоце Делчев) – Nova Makedonija (Skopje) year XXIV no. 7744 (5 May 1968) p. 8.
:::Ok so this letter has some sort of a source - could you, please, specify if this is some sort of a nationalist newspaper or something? It needs heavy sourcing. --Laveol T 18:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the note for the letter. --Laveol T 18:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Letter

message: Mr.Karev has referred to himself as "Macedonian" in a number of articles that I have seen here. He has never referred to himself as a "revolutionary from Macedonia". Weather some of you think Macedonian meant Bulgarian or Albanian or French or Dutch is irrelevant. What is important is his act of self determination and that is what should be respected in the article. Ireland101 20:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, come on. I do not care which of the old editors you are, just try to ease a little bit. Start by looking at what I proposed at Wikipedia:Macedonian Wikipedians' notice board and, please, try to really discuss and work with the others. --Laveol T 21:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Laveol I am having trouble understanding you. You are the one that who has been deleting all of my changes and has been posting defamatory remarks on my user page. I have consistently been posting on talk pages and have tried to work things out. Unlike yourself I do not have enough time to watch this site twenty four hours a day so I think you are the one that should "ease" a little. I have also had enough of you attacking me and claiming that I am some "old editor". I propose that we have the head Wikipedia office verify weather this is true or not. If this is true I get banned, if it is not you get banned. I think this is only fair as you seem sure that this is the case and spare no effort to defame my reputation every chance you have. I have seen your notice board and it can be usefull in cases where there is no declaration of self determination. This is not the case in this article as he clearly states he is "Macedonian"Ireland101 21:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I apologize if I've said something wrong or accused you of something that you have not done. It strikes me though that nooone that is innocent for something would say if asked something (not related to the subject) that he has never done this and that and that he is completely innocent for things he has not been accused for yet. --Laveol T 09:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is one supposed to say if they are falsely accused of something? Are they supposed to agree or disagree? Ireland101 12:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is you weren't accused of anything. --Laveol T 22:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This[] is not an accusation? Ireland101 20:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you please translate that into English for transparency. Ireland101 12:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you please stop writing in an unknown language as this is an English website and we cannot understand what you are saying. The fact that you continue to do this leads to the assumption that you might be conspiring in secret so that no one can understand you.Ireland101 20:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Macedonian" 

message: When I edited the page I added link to the source. Not sure why Jingiby and Flix11 were undoing the changes even though I provided evidence of the source. "Cryptic Canadian" was OK with my edit after providing the evidence. Please make the changes and protect the page. 50.4.174.33 (talk) 12:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . If other editors are reverting your edits, the proper course of action is to discuss it with them on the talk page to try to achieve a consensus.  If you don't understand why they're undoing them, again, ask on the talk page.  The page  protected apparently because of your disruption.  Edit requests should only be for non-controversial changes or ones for which a consensus has already been reached. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 13:56, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2020