Talk:Changeup

message: "Another, less common, grip is known as the Vulcan change, where the pitcher wedges the ball between his middle finger and ring finger.[citation needed] Its name derives from the grip looking similar to the "Live long and prosper" hand gesture used by Vulcans, a fictional extra-terrestrial race depicted on the television series Star Trek. This pitch's break resembles a forkball, going straight downward. Éric Gagné, a former premier closer, utilizes this pitch extremely effectively."
Apparently this has been on the page for a long time with no citation. Since it really doesn't seem possible, I'm going to take it off the page. Please feel free to put it back if and when you find a citation for it. --Cronodude360 20:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps you should leave the editing of baseball pages to people who know something about baseball. Or people who can use Google, either way. In any case, it's a real pitch. Not only does Gagne throw it, so too do Tom Glavine Justin Speier, and Guillermo Mota.  --johnhenrybonham 2:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no need to imply that I'm clueless about baseball. A friend who plays baseball told me it was impossible, and seeing as how it had no citation, I figured it was a safe idea to take it off the page until a citation was found. --Cronodude360 19:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vulcan Change 

message: This article uses the terms "break" and "breaking" without explaining what they mean.  As someone who went to the article to actually find out what a changeup was, I couldn't get an answer, because there was no explanation of "breaking".  Jjshapiro (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Break 

message: Since a lot of various aspects of this article are provided without citation, I think it's time they be removed, and I will be doing so. It's sloppy editing, and frankly a lot of the lines marked as "Citation Needed" seem to be editorial, opinionated or irrelevant to the subject of the Changeup Pitch in baseball. Should anyone take issue with my action, revert, but this article has been marked for cleanup since 2007. Let's try to get it to conform to an objective perspective and most importantly leave the names of players off the page unless they did something, said something or something was said that can be cited. 
Paintbait (talk) 07:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Why is it called a changeup? HiLo48 (talk) 09:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name puzzles me