Talk:Drag king

message: This article makes some bold statements about what is and is not a "drag king" without citations.  This, and the above discussion, show that the underlying bias needs to be removed. - brenneman{L}  00:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion was two years ago.  The issue seems to have been worked out since then, and the definition of "drag king" currently in the article seems pretty neutral and inclusive to me.  I don't see any "bold statements" that would require citations, and I don't see any need to label the article as POV.  If you have some specific problem with the definition given in the article then please feel free to explain, but for now I am removing the POV tag. CKarnstein 05:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: There way quite a bit of material for "All the King's Men" so I trimmed it a little bit. - brenneman{L}  00:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AtKM 

message: Greetings. I noticed some items like Elvis Herselvis, Lea Delaria and the 1st 
Drag King Junior Contest are missing. There is a fairly comprehensive Drag King timeline online at  that s a great read, if nothing else, but gives an insider's chronicle to touchstones of interest to this article. I don't have time right now but a researched version using some of that history would greatly help the article and potentially grow into one on it's own. Benjiboi 23:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drag King history 

message: International Drag King Community Extravaganza (IDKE) needs it's own section and links to each year's contest, also more photos from any kings would be helpful. Benjiboi 20:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Drag King Community Extravaganza (IDKE) 

message: The external links need to be cleaned up a bit. Given the article's subject I think most of them are valid and basically non-commercial, however, for those looking to actually learn more it's helpful to separate which links are for actual resources/support maybe those could saty under "External Links" and all the rest to list under something like "Links to Current Drag Kings."
:I've done some article clean-up including the links section removing all the personal ones and sorting the rest into resources and king groups. Benjiboi 22:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Because they haven't been removed yet? :) --AliceJMarkham (talk) 00:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My initial goal was to stop every performer from adding their link and slow down the tide as it were. If we are now going to throw out all the groups links then we should provide a reasonable alternative like we link to a good drag king resource which has a list of king groups, if you want to be added to the list that's the place to do it. Benjiboi 00:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On further reflection I feel the way we currently have it is fine for now. People looking for information on drag kings will find the article to be a good starting resource and the list of king groups is not terribly large nor would I expect it to grow exponentially. I feel an alternative would to grow a section about king groups and try to sort out which ones are notable for inclusion. I feel that's a ways off. Benjiboi 14:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: "Buddy Kent was still gorgeous at age 70.  She was even cuter in the 1940s, when she played the Club 181, located at 181 Second Avenue on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and the Moroccan Village, on 8th Street in Greenwich Village.  Back the, downtown nightclubs like these, under the protection of the New York mob, featured shows with gay girls and boys performing in drag.  * * *  “It was home,” Buddy replied, “and we had the best protection in the world from the Mafia.  They ran everything.”"
The above is a report from a New York newspaper and may be worth researching and incorporating. Benjiboi 00:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drag King Buddy Kent 

message: === Drag king groups ===
====Australia====
* King Victoria; Melbourne, Australia.
====Europe====
* Sissy Boyz, all-girl-boygroup; Bremen, Germany.
* Kingdom of Cologne, Cologne, Germany.
* Kingz of Berlin, Germany.
* Eyes Wild Drag; Rome, Italy.
* Kings of Rome; Rome, Italy.
* DaKings, Oslo, Norway.  
====America====
* ODKM, Original Drag King Mexico; Distrito Federal, Mexico.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.179.87.231 (talk) 04:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree but not in the mood to bicker. Plenty of lists include entries fo folks who don't have an article written on them. Since you seem to be an authority here I'll leave you to it. Benjiboi 17:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drag King Groups 

message: ====Australia====
* King Victoria; Melbourne, Australia.
====Europe====
* Sissy Boyz, all-girl-boygroup; Bremen, Germany.
* Kingdom of Cologne, Cologne, Germany.
* Kingz of Berlin, Germany.
* Eyes Wild Drag; Rome, Italy.
* Kings of Rome; Rome, Italy.
* DaKings, Oslo, Norway.  
====America====
* ODKM, Original Drag King Mexico; Distrito Federal, Mexico.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.179.87.231 (talk) 04:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree but not in the mood to bicker. Plenty of lists include entries fo folks who don't have an article written on them. Since you seem to be an authority here I'll leave you to it. Benjiboi 17:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drag king groups 

message: * ODKM, Original Drag King Mexico; Distrito Federal, Mexico.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.179.87.231 (talk) 04:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: America

message: =====Canada=====
* King Size; Montreal, Canada.
* DKUnited; Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
=====United States=====
* DC Kings, world's longest-running monthly troupe; Washington, DC.
* Carnival Kings; New Orleans, Louisiana.
* All the Kings Men; Boston, Massachusettes.
*  Switch N' Play; New York drag alliance.
* Boys R Us; Tucson, Arizona.  
* Sisterzz Twisted; Phoenix, Arizona.
* Kings N Things, Austin, Texas. 
* The Cuntry Kings; Durham, North Carolina. 
This list was removed, in my opinion, without consensus, and I think it should be restored. A list of drag king groups seems notable and verifiable and adds to the reader's understanding of the subject. This is also information that wikipedia can cover with a worldwide focus that no one else seems to be doing. It's easiely maintainable and potentially can grow into its own article. The reason most performance related articles don't have a similar list, IMHO, is that group format is more emphasized in drag king culture. Benjiboi 03:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree but not in the mood to bicker. Plenty of lists include entries fo folks who don't have an article written on them. Since you seem to be an authority here I'll leave you to it. Benjiboi 17:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: North America

message: * DC Kings, world's longest-running monthly troupe; Washington, DC.
* Carnival Kings; New Orleans, Louisiana.
* All the Kings Men; Boston, Massachusettes.
*  Switch N' Play; New York drag alliance.
* Boys R Us; Tucson, Arizona.  
* Sisterzz Twisted; Phoenix, Arizona.
* Kings N Things, Austin, Texas. 
* The Cuntry Kings; Durham, North Carolina. 
This list was removed, in my opinion, without consensus, and I think it should be restored. A list of drag king groups seems notable and verifiable and adds to the reader's understanding of the subject. This is also information that wikipedia can cover with a worldwide focus that no one else seems to be doing. It's easiely maintainable and potentially can grow into its own article. The reason most performance related articles don't have a similar list, IMHO, is that group format is more emphasized in drag king culture. Benjiboi 03:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree but not in the mood to bicker. Plenty of lists include entries fo folks who don't have an article written on them. Since you seem to be an authority here I'll leave you to it. Benjiboi 17:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: United States

message: There appears to be a malfunction in a template that is putting unexpected text into the article.  That discussion is here.  98.211.44.211 (talk) 10:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template malfunction 

message: I wiki searched "Male impersonator" and was redirected to "Drag king". It seems to me that the page "Male impersonator" has been highjacked as the Drag King page and used exclusively for a very narrow and specific type of Male impersonation. 
The introduction has a passing acknowledgement to the fact that British pantomime still uses female actors in male parts. Everything else pertains to Drag Queen performers. The person that I wish to write about is now 90, has acted as a solo female impersonator for about 60 years and would nnever be regarded as a drag king. 
How does one reinstate a proper article on the subject of Male impersonation? 
Amandajm (talk) 00:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I can tell there wasn't an article that was then "highjacked". Male impersonator simply redirects here but can be edited and turned into an article. Male impersonation doesn't exist yet so you have several options.  -- Banjeboi 01:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

text: OK! That's a good way to go. Then maybe Male impersonator could be redirected. And a short paragraph could lead to the Drag king article as a main. Amandajm (talk) 02:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And a link, at least, could be added here as well.  -- Banjeboi 11:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Male impersonator

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message: "They may be lesbian, bisexual, transgender, genderqueer, or otherwise part of the LGBT community. They may also be straight."
So they can be... anyone? CulturalSnow (talk) 00:34, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusive 

message: I will wait a few days to give other editors a chance to source some of this, but after that all the unsourced POV, conjecture and yakk has got to go. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:04, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Considerable improvement has been done. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Time to remove all the unsourced POV here

message: — Assignment last updated by ACHorwitz (talk) 16:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Gender and Technoculture 320-01

message: It's great to see references to kings such as Landon Cider and Hugo Grrrl, but I think we need to reference  Adam All for running London's 'boibox' drag king cabaret, considering he already has his own wiki page and everything. Can someone please find a way to organically integrate this into the article? Thanks  Galaxyedits (talk) 10:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prominent modern drag kings