Talk:Edema

message: It's 'edema', not 'edema'. Stop being bloody imperialists. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.5.0.180 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 1 September 2007
:Or 'œdema'? —DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: edema

message: fluid retention should redirect to this page, shouldn't it? water retention already does. 
Singkong2005 06:44, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, oedema is a result of that process. JFW | T@lk 07:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's the case, both water retention and fluid retention should lead to a page which describes that, and which references oedema. Water retention should not redirect to Oedema. Singkong2005 07:01, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fluid retention 

message: is this correct
grade 1 - oedema below ankles
grade 2 - oedema below knees
grade 3 - oedema of thighs
grade 4 - generalised oedema
:never heard of this grading system before, which isn't to say it doesn't exist. Its not very accurate though. Grading systems are usually used to imply severity of a process as well as indicating the progress. Generalised oedema is unlikely to occur from oedema of the thighs but rather have arisen from an entirely different pathological process. I'll clear all this up when I fix these pages. Wrongfooting 10:08, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have heard a few physicians describe this system, but Bate's Guide to Physical Examination (9th Edition) states it's based on (apparently subjective?) severity with 1+ being mild to 4+ being severe.  In practice, I've never seen leg edema without ankle edema, nor have I seen someone write 3+ or 4+ edema in a progress note.  This is probably a regional difference. 174.255.82.6 (talk) 02:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grades of oedema 

message: I have suggested that the article Swelling (medical) be merged into this article.  It is a stub, and the meanings are identical.  Anyone mind me doing this?  Thanks, delldot | talk 16:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The swelling article is a horrible hodgepodge stub, but I'm not sure if the meanings are identical. JFW | T@lk 17:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, I'm not qualified to merge them because I don't know enough about the differences.  Anyway, do you think the meanings might be close enough to still merit a merge?  I guess it's moot anyway unless someone else wants to volunteer for the job.  Anyone? delldot | talk 05:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: no definitely not. As a stub the swelling article in and of itself is highly oversimplified, combining processes like oedema, which is the accumulation of fluid in the tissues outside of the arteries and veins, with liver and spleen enlargement (hepatomegaly and splenomegaly respectively) which can occur through processes as varied as cancer and heart failure. I will fix these pages up but its not going to happen overnight. In summary, these pages shouldn't be merged (making them smaller) but need to be expanded!! Wrongfooting 10:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, thank you!  delldot | talk 15:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So... should the merge template be removed, then? Twilight Realm 04:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge from Swelling (medical)

message: We could really use a picture for this article depicting the disease.  If someone happens to have one that we can use it would be good to put up.
Bradkoch2007 20:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article needs a picture

message: This article is probably a pretty good treatment of oedema as a medical subject for some (intermediate?) level of medical education.
However, especially because dropsy as a disease has some historic significance, and is linked here from some historical articles, it would be nice if there were some discussion on that subject, along with a less medical explanation of what dropsy is.  Presumably it was a cause of death to native American's sometime after Columbus?
Rhkramer (talk) 14:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dropsy as a historic subject 

message: thumb|(Foot, c. 2 weeks post surgery because of compartment syndrome)
I made this pic recently and would like to have better caption provided so we can include it in the article. We need at least one here... --Scriberius (talk) 22:37, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it in the part concerning edema of the foot. There, a better caption is not hyperacute. Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Caption requested

message: The article currently states:
:It is often not appreciated that the Starling equation does not indicate a balance between these forces. The hydrostatic force must always win, and there must always be leakage of fluid out of the vessel because otherwise there can be no oncotic gradient.
But this is nonsense: averaged over longer periods of time, there can be no net leakage (except to make up for fluid loss due to perspiration). Both forces win: the hydrostatic pressure causes the oncotic gradient to develop! Anyway, the above, as currently worded, sounds like some strange misunderstanding; I'll remove the text shortly.  linas (talk) 03:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  questionable statements 

message: 216.56.161.4 (talk) 19:06, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New theories as to how edema forms 

message: Dropsy redirects to this page, which covers the rather more general subject of (o)edema.
This redirection is somewhat unfortunate as we then lose the connection between dropsy and congestive heart failure, with dropsy being regarded as a primary symptom of the disorder. 
With the link between the two gone it becomes difficult to refer to William Withering, who was the West Midland apothecary who developed a reliable treatment for the dropsical patient from the use of foxglove (digitalis) known to folk medicine. 
Would it be reasonable to include a reference to this 200 year old medical breakthrough in the Edema article or does it fall beyond its scope? Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 22:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I would be in favour of someone in the know clarifying this in the article, I followed a dropsy link here and I don't know what it is yet! -pinkgothic (talk) 17:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dropsy - Congestive Heart Failure 

message: I've proposed the merge because I am not sure of the benefit of having this article. For the last 10 years people have commented that it *could* be a different article but no one has made it sufficiently different to warrant the separate article. Mvolz (talk) 08:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree that Swelling (Medicine) and Oedema should be merged.  {talk} 20:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: How does this relate to compartment syndrome? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 18:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compartment syndrome 

message: The second photo (two feet after hike, author's own photo) is not a particularly good example,it's a holiday snap, can barely see the condition. Photo information irrelevant. Suggest removal. 2A02:C7C:D6F7:3C00:C06B:5A48:CA9C:7E3E (talk) 15:46, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: - Agree and removed. Zefr (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo examples