Talk:Ford Expedition

message: The expedition was NOT the replacement for the Bronco, the explorer was the replacement, the bronco centurion (1996) was replaced by the excursion.--AlxeMsatain (talk) 05:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
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message: Who write these articles?  With such clear advertising claims like, "Over 500,000 Expeditions have sold since 2004, reflecting high consumer demand for its family-friendly interior, cargo space, off road capability and high towing capacity", it looks like a Ford marketing employee is writing them.  That quote was taken from the "background" section.  Is that relevant information for a vehicles background?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.171.119.63 (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Amazingly, that line has been here since January 2, 2006!  It looks like it was added by an anonymous user who edited a lot of Ford articles.. probably not very NPOV.  Since the sales figure is four years out of date anyway, the line can be removed, or an updated sales figure can be provided (without the commentary). --Vossanova o< 19:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who writes this? 

message: This article has become a complete joke. With a dissertation on the four-wheel drive system, all kinds of OR about its capabilities, the usual POV, a section on "luxury" features, and a bunch of detail fit for buyer's guides and shop manuals, this page needs a lot of attention. --Sable232 (talk) 00:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the phrase "best in class" needs to be changed or removed.. it is used throughout the article, and is also heavily used in Ford's own press releases.. coincidence? --Vossanova o< 14:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Exactly. It can be found in the owner's manual, so why should it be here? WP:NOTMANUAL is policy. Wikipedia has a sister project, Wikibooks, which would be the place for that kind of information. --Sable232 (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
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message: I have requested protection for this page and that the two editors discuss their reasons for change (or not) here on the talk page.  Edit summaries -especially when in another language - are no substitute for actual discussion.  I don't know myself which version is correct - if indeed either are - but I do know that edit warring over it is wrong.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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message: Under headline Four-wheel drive system is some totally wrong claims that are correctly taken from the stated source and repeated as facts.
1) "The Expedition's system uses a two-speed dual range BorgWarner transfer case with a software controlled variable intelligent locking center multi-disc differential."
The vehicle has no center differential, it has a multi-disc clutch that connects the front axle to the rest of the transmission when engaged. The torque the clutch transmits can be controlled by the software as long as the output axis of the clutch connected to the front axle is rotating at slower angular speed than the input axis connected to the rear axle. No clutch can transmit power from axle with slower rotation speed to faster one, as that would violate conservation of energy as the following mathematical formulation proves:
Input torque times input angular speed = input power > output power = output torque times output angular speed due to the laws of physics. Mechanical energy will not be created by passive components of transmission (including multi-disk clutch), but since there are associated losses mechanical power is reduced hence > sign must be used.
2) Selectable Automatic Full-Time ControlTrac Four-Wheel Drive
Four High (4H)	All-wheel drive
(locked)
"The intelligent locking center multi-disc differential is locked providing a permanently locked 50:50 torque split.[93] The front and rear drive shafts are mechanically locked together forcing them to turn together with absolute zero rotational speed difference"
Same angular speed due to locking guarantee that torque split can be anything from 100:0 to 0:100 depending on conditions. There is nothing manufacturer of the car or their marketing people can do to prevent that fact. There is zero percent probability that torque split happens to be exactly 50:50, even though it is within the allowable range, because there are infinitely many other possibilities of different torque split ratios as well that are equally probable.
All the infinitely possibilities have 0% probability, to combine to exactly 100% total as required by the laws of mathematics.
3) Same false claim is repeated for "Four Low (4L)" "the permanently locked 50:50 torque split is maintained"
4) Does anyone know, is there a little different gear ratio at the front and rear differentials?
If yes, that do allow transmission of power to the front even when front wheels are rotating faster than rear wheels on average, which always happens while cornering without slipping wheels. Without that, no power can be transmitted to the front while cornering if rear wheels have traction and are not slipping.
That is why many car producers using Haldex multidisk clutch in place of central differential are FWD as 2WD, not RWD.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.50.116.35 (talk) 11:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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message: As an engineer, I am briefing anyone editing, that a face lifted Mid Cycle Action U553 arrives for 2022. Why do I know this? Concerns my work. U554 Navigator as well. Next generation vehicles will ride on new Ford architecture by 2025. Carmaker1 (talk) 18:44, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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