Talk:Northern Exposure

message: How is this show surreal?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.143.19 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 23 February 2006
: There's a supernatural element.  —Tamfang 03:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In literary terms, it's called "Magical Realism." The story may randomly break to a fantastical scene (such as Sigmund Freud in a jailcell with Joel, or the Flying Man, or Ed's spirit guide "One Who Waits" or Low Self-Esteem), but the observer accepts the break as part of the story-telling technique. --TKE
It seemed at the time that the show's existence (either as an existing project that was green-lit, or other) had something to do with the success of Twin Peaks. Anyone more familiar have sources or more information?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.171.171 (talk) 21:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Surreal

message: It was incorrectly mentioned that Rob Morrow won a best actor Emmy in 1992.  He was nominated in both 1992 and 1993, but did not win either year.  Furthermore, the Emmy for "Seoul Mates" was awarded in 1992, not 1993.--Truthiness 20:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards 

message: In Chris Stevens, someone wrote two paragraphs about a hip-hop vocalist by that name.  So I undid that, and moved our Chris to Chris Stevens (Northern Exposure) to reduce the likelihood of a recurrence.  —Tamfang 22:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  moved Chris 

message: Someone wrote "Maurice lived alone, until late in the series, when he falls in love with rigid police officer, Barbara Semanski". I don't remember Maurice and Barbara living together; she may have spent a few nights at his place, but I don't think that's the same thing. Anyone have any different memories? DJ Clayworth 13:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also Maurice fell in love with Semanski, not late in the series but early.  Season 2 Episode 13 is her first appearance.  I'll have to watch that DVD to see if that was when the love interest started. Devtrash 02:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  He was attracted to her from their first meeting; it took him some time to get her to acknowledge his attention.  —Tamfang 03:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah they worked out together, they hunted together.  Then she caught him passing off illegal deductions on his taxes and they broke up.  I just finished Season 4, and they're not back together yet, so I think Season 5. Devtrash 23:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I think his interest in her is reciprocated relatively early on (season 3?), but stymied when she overhears him discussing how to fiddle his tax returns.  They certainly get together (though don't stay together) from a relatively early point in the whole run.  I've got the DVDs at home somewhere - if I remember I'll try to work out exactly when all this happens.  Cheers, --Plumbago 10:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They rekindle their romance in a later episode when Maurice gets the violin player out of jail temporarily, so he can serenade Barbara at Maurice's house. Maurice and Barbara spend the night together, but Barbara is offended when she learns that Maurice bribed the jail custodians to get the violinist out, and breaks it off when the violinist escapes Maurice's guardianship.Kornbelt888 (talk) 08:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

text:  Correct. Barbara never lived with Maurice. They only spent the night together on a few occasions.Kornbelt888 (talk) 08:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

text: She didn't. The last ep (Tranquilty Base) leaves it open, as Semanski is present as hostess at Maurice's house party. The viewer is invited to believe that she and Maurice are at least trying to have a future, but it is in no way definitive as to whether Semanski lives with Maurice. Simply, no evidence at all that they lived together.Geoff Owen 00:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Maurice and Barbara

message: Cicely, Alaska is NOT a fictional town - this should be corrected. A small town called Cicely acctually exists in Alaska.
Look here for reference:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=62.080743,-149.941406&sspn=1.250078,3.746338&q=Cicely+Alaska&ie=UTF8&ll=62.179976,-149.889811&spn=0.002433,0.007317&t=h&om=1
: Close but no cigar: that does not show a Cicely on the map, it shows Talkeetna and cites :
:: TALKEETNA has a palpable small-town Alaska feel: rumor has it that this eclectic hamlet was the model for Cicely in TV's Northern Exposure . . . .
: Even if there were a genuine town named Cicely in Alaska, the one portrayed in NX would remain as fictional as Springfield.  —Tamfang 16:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cicely, Alaska is NOT fictional 

message: This section should and has been dealt with throught the conventional disambiguation methods.  I'm going to delete it. Olleicua 01:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  other uses 

message: I have not yet heard anybody talk about the "Complete Seasons" on DVD are actually not complete. The DVDs I bought have a mere sampling of episodes from each season up until Season Four, which is all I own yet. Does everyone else's collection come truly complete? There are lots of good episodes I hate to be missing (especially at these prices).
66.21.195.241 13:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure they're incomplete? I've heard people say that the DVDs they bought of seasons one and two were incomplete, because they "only had 8 and 7 episodes on them, respectively". Those ARE the complete first and second seasons, as can be seen on the List of Northern Exposure episodes article. And your season 3 DVD has less than 23 episodes? If your DVDs do not match that, then maybe you got something other than I did, because the ones I bought were complete.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.225.253 (talk) 06:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Episodes 

message: The entire section titled "End" is POV and OR:
:Under the increasingly darker production hand of David Chase and due to CBS moving the show into various time slots (as part of the network's future move toward more youth-oriented programming[citation needed]), the show spiraled downward in 1994-95. Unexplained character trait changes, the loss of clashes that had marked Fleischman's tenure, and the departure of Morrow, resulted in a precipitous drop in the show's ratings.
Not a single reference is provided for the claims that are made---the "darker production hand of David Chase," in particular is a very bold statement without any source to back it up---and it all just reads like someone's opinion.  If this cannot be sourced, the entire section should be deleted, and a better section about the end of the show written. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 16:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  End 

message: The article gives as an example of an inaccuracy in the show:
:When being given directions out of town, a visitor is told to follow Main Street down to the Interstate, though Alaska has no Interstate highways. Few highways in Alaska have more than two lanes.
This is only partially correct.  There are Interstate Highways in Alaska, they're just not signed and don't meet the standards of the interstates in the lower 48.  However, since there are roads which are referred to as "Interstates", it would not necessarily be incorrect to tell someone to "follow Main Street down to the Interstate". Lurlock (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alaska's interstates 

message: The article the reads, "there is no possible way that they could see the midnight sun" is incorrect...As a matter of fact you can see the midnight sun 500 miles south of the arctic circle. I have been here a while.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdyer (talk • contribs) 06:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that because of atmospheric refraction?  —Tamfang (talk) 06:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midnight Sun 

message: The "Northern Exposure Complete Series" DVD set (which I am halfway through the sixth and last season / set) - the episodes are ordered by their "original air date".  Yet there are several places where main characters like Joel, Maggie, and in particular Chris have had haircuts but in the next episode are back to long hair.  In Chris' case, he cuts his hair short and wears a suit in one episode, but in the next one it opens with him working at the radio station with very long hair, and two episodes later, his hair is short again.  In Maggie's case, Joel notes during season 4 that "he likes her hair" which she has grown longer and is slightly curly, but in the prior and later episodes her style is back to her "normal" tom-boyish short, straight cut. WinkJunior (talk) 19:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconstency in Filming and Airing of Episodes 

message: The years David Chase worked as Executive Producer needs to be changed.  On the show he is listed as the sole Exec. Prod. for the entire fifth season, and the creators (Josh and John) are completely gone, along with all the original frequent writers and directors such as Rob Thompson, et. al.  The series' creators get credit for such, as does Chase as the only Exec. Prod. in both the opening and closing credits of each show in the fifth season, and then Chase shares Exec. Prod. credits with one or two other people in season six.  I believe the book about the show said something about the original creators and remaining writing team leaving at the end of season four and Chase coming in to take over, bringing an entirely new writing & directing team with him.  
Most importantly, he was on the series for seasons 5 and 6, so should be listed as (1993-1995) or perhaps by season?  I definitely agree that the series had a major change in style, characters began acting inconsistently, the Chris Stevens character read much less poetry and by different authors on his radio show, and overall it took a much more negative, even neurotic tone even while the Joel character went in the opposite direction, away from neurotic and negative, and that Chase, who has said in many interviews he suffers from severe chronic depression was likely the main cause of this. WinkJunior (talk) 19:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Chase as Executive Producer: Two Seasons, Not One 

message: Population of Cicely, AK: 843 (stated by Chris in the episode written by Robin Green and [[Mitchell Burgess]. It was directed by Michael Fresco. It aired on May 25/11 on APTN.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.21.217 (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  843 Residents 

message: I removed the "Main crew" section from the article.  It was just a list of names without any context.  Nothing to indicate what these people did on the show.  If someone has that information and wants to rewrite it that would be fine, but as it stood it was just a seemingly random list of names that didn't really fit in the article. SQGibbon (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Crew section 

message: Sure, now it's easy to look on IMDB or any of a dozen other internet references to find out who played whom on the TV show, but I particularly recall you could not gather that information from watching the show because the opening credits only named the actors, not their roles.  Might that be mentioned?  I wouldn't know the source for it. -- ke4roh (talk) 11:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? That's true for lots of shows. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:04, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps it is, but it wasn't true of the shows I recall from the period and a little earlier (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Knight Rider, Dallas, The Love Boat, The Cosby Show, and so forth, hence my mention of it.   -- ke4roh (talk) 04:10, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who played whom? 

message: A paragraph is needed to explain the real and fictional character names (and real actresses) who went into naming Cicely and Roslyn. 68.113.15.9 (talk) 05:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by "real character names"? —Tamfang (talk) 20:48, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming episode: Cicely and Roslyn 

message: I don't see a full episode list, or even the air-date of the pilot episode. Sad. Sadsaque (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast Dates 

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I wouldn't use the word cited in that way, unless perhaps in a sentence like "Among the causes of the show's decline, Brand cited Chase's mismanagement."  Would "Brand blamed Chase for" be too strong? —Tamfang (talk) 22:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  cited 

message: : [etc] (emphasis added)
I would prefer Major recurring characters include Lester Haines (Apesanahkwat) …  —Tamfang (talk) 01:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  characters ≠ actors 

message: In the soundtrack list:
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Marriage is marked "not a typo" the first time.  I imagine that this was once correct French Un Mariage Cassé; can someone check the album? —Tamfang (talk) 21:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  mariage 

message: The last I looked, this great show was not available on any streaming service. Does anyone know why? 98.2.238.89 (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not available?  

message: Novice editor  (one edit!) added this inappropriately to the lead:
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Someone please listen to the episode and correct the entry if necessary. —Tamfang (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for that much detail for mostly (all?) covers. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louie Louie