Talk:The Hardy Boys/Archive 1

message: I see that we've started getting articles created for every book (see :Category:Hardy Boys).  Do we need a very short article on each book?  Could we place these plot summaries in the main Hardy Boys article, and make the titles redirect to the sections?  Will we ever expand these stubs into useful articles in their own right? Bovlb 16:08, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
I dont see it as a problem. Even if they remain short articles--and I think that many of the earlier books can be expanded because they have changed so much since the original edition was published--it is better than having an enormously long article with 174 subtopics. Danny 16:13, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge book articles

message: *A consensus has been reached to retain on The Hardy Boys one external link to the Unofficial Nancy Drew Home Page. Discussions are archived here and here. -- Sitearm | Talk 14:18, 2005 August 31 (UTC)
The link to Hardy Boys memoribillia also falls under the concensus of one link per site on main article pages because it is part of The Unofficial Hardy Boys Web Site. 69.205.9.31 18:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retention of external link 

message: The list of "major features" in the Casefiles section is copied word-for-word from my website   (excluding a couple of changes). I'm not really sure what should be done about this... --WillNL 17:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, whatever -- I'll leave it, and tell myself that it was my own contribution... --WillNL 17:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WillNL is correct, I deleted the section copied from: http://www.geocities.com/wroxford/casefiles.html   It is not ok to do this, even with the owner's permission, because text in Wiki needs to be free of copyright restrictions. The solution is for some kind editor to heavily paraphrase, and perhaps improve the Wiki section that was removed. I'm not enough of an expert in the subject to do this. Piano non troppo (talk) 01:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: The article repeatedly uses an uppercase D when referring to the "Hardy Boys Digests." This implies that "Hardy Boys Digests" is a proper noun -- the official title of the series (like "Hardy Boys Casefiles").  But "Digests" is not the official title; it's a descriptive term used by collectors.  Since it's not actually a title, I don't think we should capitalize the "d" in "Hardy Boys Digests", just as we wouldn't capitalize the "p" in "Hardy Boys paperbacks" or the "b" in "Hardy Boys books". Rather, I think we should probably spell it "Hardy Boys digests".  What do people think about this? --WillNL 17:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey why not!!? Smith Jones 18:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK by me too.MookiesDad 11:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hardy Boys Digests" or "Hardy Boys digests"? 

message: "The Clues Brothers books were aimed at younger readers, particularly in third and fourth grades." Not to sound stupid, but how old is "third and fourth grades"? Could somebody who knows please replace the wording with specific ages?Fuzzibloke 14:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grades 

message: A number of the internal links for this article (including, but not limited to, pretty much every title link and Frank and Joe) link to the 'wrong' pages...Frank, for instance, links to an Australian author. --Stretch 04:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Internal Links

message: If memory serves sometime in the late 90s their was a tv show based on the boys adventures. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.89.187.166 (talk) 08:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean this? --CCFreak2K 06:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of the TV show? 

message: Many (almost everyone) of the working links in section 'Casefiles', link to articles with similar names, but with no relevance to the hardy boys. Someone should suffix all those links with '(Hardy Boys)' 80.162.254.106 18:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Working on it--Entoaggie09 22:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: They all should be fixed, but it is something that needs to be checked up on later. --Entoaggie09 23:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casefiles incorrect links 

message: Naming convention normally says not to use "The" in the title unless it's an official part of the name, like The Beatles, but I see "Hardy Boys" used a lot of times without "The" in front of it, so I don't think it's an official necessary part of the name.  Should we move it? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 10:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardy Boys or The Hardy Boys? 

message: Removed this:
Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew S1 is out on uk DVD 16TH JULY
It was right below the first paragraph.  Someone more knowledgeable than myself on this should re-add it if and where appropriate. Also, you might want to add another line below the first paragraph to even out the spacing (I didn't re-add it myself because I didn't want to spam the edit history). --CCFreak2K 06:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK DVD? 

message: I noticed that series on this page go in order of date except for the Clues Brothers (1997-2000) which are before the Casefiles (1987-1998).  The Crossover section is also out of order. 
This is what order it is in now:
3 The (original) Hardy Boys Mystery Stories (1927–1979) 
4 The Hardy Boys Mystery Stories ("Digests") (1979–2005) 
5 The Clues Brothers (1997–2000) 
6 The Hardy Boys Casefiles (1987–1998) 
7 The Hardy Boys: Undercover Brothers (2005-Date) 
7.1 Undercover Brothers Super Mysterys (2006-Date) 
7.2 Undercover Brothers Graphic Novels (2005-Date) 
8 Crossovers 
8.1 Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller Series (1992–1993) 
8.2 Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys SuperMystery Series (1988–1998) 
8.3 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Super Mystery Series (2007-Date) 
8.4 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Be a Detective Mystery Stories (1984-1985)
This is what order I think it should be in:(Bold shows the sections that should be moved)
3 The (original) Hardy Boys Mystery Stories (1927–1979) 
4 The Hardy Boys Mystery Stories ("Digests") (1979–2005) 
5 The Hardy Boys Casefiles (1987–1998) 
6 The Clues Brothers (1997–2000) 
7 The Hardy Boys: Undercover Brothers (2005-Date) 
7.1 Undercover Brothers Super Mysterys (2006-Date) 
7.2 Undercover Brothers Graphic Novels (2005-Date) 
8 Crossovers 
8.1 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Be a Detective Mystery Stories (1984-1985)  
8.2 Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys SuperMystery Series (1988–1998)
8.3 Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller Series (1992–1993) 
8.4 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Super Mystery Series (2007-Date)
Should this be changed?  (WHLfan 16:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense to me.  Unless someone can provide any reasoning behind the current order I say change it.  --Dan East 01:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series in order of year 

message: Reproducing content from List of Hardy Boys Original Titles which is being deleted for ease of reference, as I note this article doesn't contain the individual dates. Espresso Addict 23:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of books with dates from [[List of Hardy Boys Original Titles]] 

message: I found that someone had been, sadly, copy/pasting material into Wikipedia in violation of copyright - but it identified a resource that can be cited as a reference for such summaries that one *writes oneself*: 
Enjoy! --Alvestrand 21:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for book summaries 

message: There was a novel where the two visit a war-torn country overseas and in one scene, one of them is forced to fire a machine gun -at- a pursuing group of enemies. Due to circumstances it is not known if anyone is hit. This, of course, causes intense emotional agony. Not only should this book be noted specifically, I'm wondering, personally, which novel it is because I want to re-read it also. -- Lots42 (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know it's not one of the original series, it's a paperback, produced late eighties, as far as I recall. Lots42 (talk) 03:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noteable and curious 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wanted hardyboys.jpg

message: I was wondering if someone could make a Infobox for the characters in The Hardy Boys, i tried but im not very good at makeing them.
i was thinking some thing like this:
*Hardy Boys character
*[image]
*Gender:
*Hometown:
*Occupation:
*Relatives:
*First Appearance:
could someone make something like that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WHLfan (talk • contribs) 02:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Infobox

message: I have contributed quite a few Hardy Boys related articles to Wikipedia, but since many Hardy related subjects do not adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines such as Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability, many articles on such subjects are tagged for deletion. At first I did not quite understand this but I have since come to see why some Wikipedians believe articles such as Mr. Pizza may not have a place on the wiki. 
After some thought on the issue I considered a wiki for The Hardy Boys, and nothing else. A place where all and every Hardy related article would be accepted. Having visited Wookieepedia I discovered Wikia, and soon afterwards requested The Hardy Boys Wiki.
The Hardy Boys Wiki has been up and running for over six months now, and we are currently working on nearly 300 articles. So any time a Hardy Boys article does not belong on Wikipedia, you can always write an article on the subject at The Hardy Boys Wiki.
I don't want to sound like a spammer or something trying to get people to a site, but I know from experience that many Wikipedians do not appreciate many of the Hardy Boys articles, which are considered non-relevant to the wiki, and I thought it would be good if users contributing Hardy articles, which are unwelcome on Wikipedia could be directed to The Hardy Boys Wiki.
hardyboys.wikia.com
WHLfan (talk) 05:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hardy Boys Wiki 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Hardy boys cover 01.jpg