Talk:Jake Zyrus/Archive 1

message: How is she associated with WHITNEY HOUSTON??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.202.25.159 (talk) 15:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: You have to be deaf to not hear that Charice sings a variety of genres, yet we need a "reliable" source to state so?  It's quite obvious that Charice mainly sings pop, R&B and dance-pop, and anyone who can define music is able to say so.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disney09 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre

message: Added external link to Charice Pempengco's singing performance on The Ellen Degeneres show on December 19, 2007.  Also added Charice's photo.Aks2007 (talk) 07:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ellen

message: This article was nominated for deletion.  I think its better to edit it than delete it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.101.10.81 (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing is better than deleting a whole article 

message: Although I am a fan of Charice Pempengco, I don't think she is worthy (yet) of an entry in a 10,000-article Philippine Encyclopedia. She needs to release a solo album to make it MID. Starczamora (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not MID although she can release an album. Low only. --Efe (talk) 07:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, no! I am from Germany and I was happy to find an article of Charice Pempengco with biographic information. Why delete? Is there any problem having another digital item where the the caption is "Charice Pempengco"? Please notice also, that her name already is mentioned in other wikipedia articles related to music topics. Feel free to fill the Wikipedia Philippines Encyclopedia with other more important articles also! However - I agree that too much special information is given. It can be shortened. The writers should give only information that is even interesting 10 years later. Sentences like: "She received her first standing ovation from the American Audience." should be part of a fan site but not of Wikipedia. That Andrea Bocelli would vote for her needs not exceeding more than half a sentence - not a full pargraph. --Fmeyer01 (talk) 02:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WPPhilippines importance changed to LOW

message: I added the peacock template because the use of words are overly-praising.  Remember that Wikipedia is an factual encyclopedia, not a fan site.  Thanks! Starczamora (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Tag removed. This article is very very short so it must have been better if you just removed those overly written passages. --Efe (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Peacock template

message: Why does this article seem to include a paragraph about every performance Charice has done?  This is an encyclopedia article, not a fansite or promotional site.  Just a few important performances, at most, should be included.  I tried reducing the performance listing, but User:Coolwhiz has been slowly putting then back across the last day. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the subject should be referred to as "Pempengco" for now.  Her new screen name (as simply Charice) is not yet prominent. Starczamora (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Charice is more prominent than her surname so all notations of "Pempengco" in the article should be changed.
BAF (talk) 11:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performances 

message: I deleted "with Sam Concepcion winning the grand prize." It is unnecessary that Concepcion be mentioned in Pempengco's article. If Pempengco earned a runner-up to Elvis (which is impossible under the circumstances, but I am exaggerating for emphasis), then the feat and the winner are worth a piece of the article. Concepcion is a much lesser known person, obviously.
This Little Big Star story shouldn't be too in-depth; it is enough that it is mentioned.Doctorqui (talk) 05:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Minutiae

message: Her surname should be used in the article's text, not her stage name. As per Wikipedia:MOSBIO#Subsequent uses of names: For people well-known by one-word names, nicknames or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally (i.e. musician/actors Beyoncé Knowles, André Benjamin, Jennifer Lopez; doctor/broadcaster Dr. Drew Pinsky), use the legal surname. --Jtalledo (talk) 02:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So is Beyonce. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surname 

message: This link give some more background information
http://bolstablog.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/falsevoice/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.59.216.193 (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: This section is a stretch. Philanthropia more accurately describes people who voluntarily make substantial contributions to advance human welfare (e.g. Bill Gates). In Charice's case, she attended many of these events for the purposes of promotion. We need to see sources that describe her involvement as philanthropic otherwise the section can be removed. Wikispan (talk) 11:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move ahead and remove this section if applicable sources are not forthcoming. Wikispan (talk) 00:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropy 

message: She's now known simply as
"Charice," without the last name.  I mean, nobody introduces her as Charice
Pempengco.  What do people think?--Olduch (talk) 19:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. Knowing her as "Charice" only isn't a good rationale to rename the article as requested.--JL 09 q?c 19:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing Name of Article to Simply "Charice" 

message: The Catholicism categories could use a source.  It's mentioned nowhere in the article.  -- AvatarMN (talk) 01:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed them. --Mollskman (talk) 14:26, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholicism categories 

message: This article is beset by trivia (e.g. non notable appearances; inclusion of nonmeaningful awards). Non encyclopaedic material needs to go. Less is more. Wikispan (talk) 11:21, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fancruft 

message: Someone, an IP editor has listed her in the List of Filipino Americans recently. This will be reverted as there is no cited reference from a reliable source stating that she now resides (permanently) in the United States, the minimal threshold to which she can be included as a Filipino American. To the best of my knowledge she is still a Citizen of the Philippines, and has not began the Naturalization process for any nation. If someone has any information regarding this, it would be greatly appreciated.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If she works and lives there then she should be classed as an Ex-pat. She clearly doesn't have Citizenship so those cats were inappropriate. --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 16:20, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Residency 

message: This article I created called "Before It Explodes" which is based on one of Charice's singles is getting deleted or should I say "Blanked out" and then directed back here. Please stop that. That's against the rules. Blueknightex (talk) 08:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who the heck is the one that keeps on deleting articles like Charice's singles and directing them here? 

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thread_title: File:Charice 02.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

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thread_title: File:CharicePempengco03.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

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thread_title: File:CharicePempengco05.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: In the first paragraph of this article it says, "After barely escaping her violent father, Charice was raised by her single mother..."  WTF is this supposed to mean??  Barely escaped?!  Like he was some ax killer who was chasing her and she 'barely escaped' before he chopped her head off?  Come on, dude.  This is written sooo lame.  Also, I find it extremely funny that now the he is dead (murdered), she's all tears and 'boo-hoo for me I loved my daddy' and such.  What BS!
:Agreed, the barely escaping seems peacockish, and unencyclopedic.P0PP4B34R732 (talk) 01:14, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barely Excaped??? 

message: IS this her stage name (?) --Kawaii-Soft (talk) 22:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charice. 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
* Oppose - The surname is "fairly often used" per WP:NCP. Probably five years since the prior RM, and I don't see how many non-fans refer to this person as "Charice". I prefer keeping "Pempengco" for encyclopedic purpose. George Ho (talk) 06:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Charice was also confronted  y Showbiz News Inside report which said her rumored girlfriend was a girl from X Factor Philippines which she had met as a friend in a young age she stated "she's my everything" but it is not confirmed they are in a relationship Huklpop15 (talk) 00:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girlfriend 

message: Charice has changed drastically since 2010. I don't think its right to keep on using those images of herself 2-3 years ago. Page should be accurate. Masterpeace3 (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as there are no free images available, this one is here to stay.  If you do have a free image (meaning, not copyrighted and it can uploaded under the Creative Commons license i.e. taken by you or taken by someone else and you have permission), feel free to upload it to Commons.  Thank you. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 11:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a new profile picture.  

message: * Female: Jake only recently declared for male, and his past was lived as the female Charice. Only recently has Zyrus lived as a male and none of the notable events were as a male. — Myk Streja (who?) 03:10, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a problem with this vote: it's not signed by a registered user.  — Myk Streja (who?) 02:55, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm, why would that be a problem. There's no requirement that one must be a registered user to participate in this discussion. David in DC (talk) 23:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyway, all of this silly !voting happened before the most recent sources became available, so it is now all irrelevant. Newimpartial (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

text: What I don't know, is what WP policy is concerning pronouns in biographies of subjects who are broadly transgender. The Caitlyn Jenner article, for example, simply doesn't use pronouns at all for the whole period before ex-Bruce announced himself as Caitlyn. But is this a policy or a local consensus? Newimpartial (talk) 16:21, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant policy is at MOS:GENDERID: "Give precedence to self-designation as reported in the most up-to-date reliable sources, even when it doesn't match what's most common in reliable sources." As this subject has publicly declared a name and gender change to male then the current name and he/his pronouns should be used throughout this article, unless the subject has clearly stated a preference for a different pronoun set. Funcrunch (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey