Talk:White Cliffs of Dover

message: The picture displays to the extreme left, under the sidebar, for me. Hyacinth 21:22, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Np, :) Joe D (t) 23:20, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Older: display/ND Way

message: I have deleted reference to birds of prey nesting here as the bird mentioned is a Schedule 1 protected species and the nest has been robbed before.  It is therefore best not to advertise their presence.--twitter 10:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birds of Prey

message: Perhaps there should be something on how the white cliffs led to the island of Great Britain being known to the romans as Albion (the white island). Then in general seperate into sections the parts about the geological history and cultural history.
::Well, go ahead if you have sources you can cite to that effect. It is important that you substantiate your point, otherwise it will be reverted for lack of cited facts. Dieter Simon 21:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albion 

message: I thought I'd cross-post here a question I've just asked over at Talk:Seven Sisters, Sussex as to why the Seven Sisters are sometimes used instead of the real White Cliffs of Dover in some historical movies etc. Is it because, as I saw somewhere, that the area around Dover is burdened with anachronistic developments? If someone could verify this somehow (a photo might demonstrate the point, if it is the development thing), it probably ought to go into the Culture section of this article too. - IMSoP 10:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seven Sisters 

message: Shouldn't this article be called White Cliffs of Dover, with a capital C? Andrew (My talk) 18:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yes of course Peter Shearan (talk) 14:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: It says - "the cliffs spread east and west from the town of Dover", but no reason for that is mentioned. Like the Seven Sisters, the cliffs are the sea-eroded remains of the chalk Downs, and the valleys represent the valleys on its edge.This one has the River Dour cutting through it Peter Shearan (talk) 14:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the gap?

message: There should be a mention of climbing on the cliffs. Reference the Climbers' Club guide to southern sandstone, which includes a section on climbing on the chalk cliffs of Kent and Sussex, among them Dover.Brilliantine (talk) 16:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climbing 

message: Sorry for disturbing first. Why do you write the name of this article not as monumental as a friend of mine (who does not have regular internet) does feel it - like "White Cliffs of Dover" she is asking me.
In short: Why is it not written "White Cliffs of Dover"?
ps: I'll hope to check in later and give her and me your answer. Thank you. And yes, we are only talking school english:)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.136.36.164 (talk) 05:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question of Writing the Monumental Given 

message: Are they symblolic of Britain, or England? "where invasions have historically threatened and against which the cliffs form a symbolic guard.". 1066, the Spanish Armada etc. , weren't all these invasions of England, not the UK? Moooooocow (talk) 18:26, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symbolic value of Britain? 

message: I've removed a few of the more egregious bits of trivia from the section about the cliffs in popular culture. However, I still think most of the references are pretty fleeting and of questionable significance: unless anyone comes up with any particular reason to keep a particular reference, I'm going to remove all the songs etc. which merely mention the cliffs  ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 12:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: no objections, so I've been bold  ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: The entire section was just removed as irrelevant. I disagree. The cliffs' iconic status as reflected in the tons of mentions of them is part of the story. Maybe it could usefully be rewritten as continuous prose, emphasizing things like the song and reflecting Shakespeare scholars' assessment of the importance of the occurrence in King Lear - but the list was already pruned (see above section) and I believe this is one of the article topics where it's appropriate to have such a section. Thoughts? Yngvadottir (talk) 20:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So now we have no mention of their importance in popular culture at all? That seems rather a step backwards. I think the continuous prose idea has merit. Lists tend to encourage new entries, whereas well-written sentences require someone to spend a few minutes thinking about what they're writing. - IMSoP (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free. I tend to agree, this is a topic that richly deserves to have such a section. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:42, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

text: A well sourced prose section covering the notable and historic references would be welcome. The rather misplaced unsourced tidbit re: the bluebirds in the Ecology section could be included. And I agree, the list structure tends to invite quick links to one's fav song/movie/TV episode/video game ... promotion. Whereas good ref'd prose would be less appealing to those folks. Vsmith (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In popular culture" - again 

message: There is absolutely nothing here about Nazi German artillery bombardments from the French side over to the tops of the White Cliffs, and beyond. (London was too far away.) There is absolutely nothing about Adolf Hitler's taking a trip to Calais in 1940, and then using has large binoculars to look across the English Channel at the White Cliffs. Photographs of that event are available!24.121.195.165 (talk) 06:26, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bombardments]] 

message: The article currently states that the bluebird mentioned in the song (There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover refers to swallows and house martins which migrate across the cliffs. Can anyone provide a source to this? According to the song article, the bluebird comes from the American bluebird as the composer was an American and did not realise they didn't occur in England. AustinRedd007 (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluebirds 

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