Talk:European wars of religion

message: This article is terribly misnamed.  Current scholarship finds the idea that the wars of this period were primarily motivated by religion both laughable and an embarrassing narrative used for centuries now to justify the ever-growing claims to authority and demands of obedience by the centralized state.  See especially Thomas Cavanaugh on the question; for example, “'A Fire Strong Enough To Consume The House': The Wars of Religion & The Rise of the State" at .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.211.131.228 (talk) 21:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  These wars were the birth pangs of the Modern state, not the results of religious violence 

message: The sentence in the infobox : " his firm Catholicism was the proximate cause of the the war " should be removed to maintain NPOV of this article. 
This sentence is blaming the Catholic faith for the outbreak of the Thirty year's war.
:I have neutralised the picture description. Xandar (talk) 00:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thirty year's war 

message: In this section, the article text reads "Lutherans could keep the territory that they had captured from the Catholic Church "  I'm concerned about the phrase "from the Catholic Church".  Is this accurate?  Was the territory formerly belonging to "the Catholic Church"?  Or to the Holy Roman Empire?  This is not an area of expertise for me but it just sounded wrong to me so I figured I'd ask. --Richard S (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schmalkaldic wars 

message: It's incredible that such a large article has so few sources. I'll contribute a bit, but for the most part the original authors have been lazy to provide evidence for what they wrote. The current B-class status is undeserved. I'll put references templates where necessary to point this out. English Wikipedia has higher standards than this. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Onnekink and his publisher are happy to describe his views on the religious element in wars not usually so described as revisionist/outside the mainstream. I don't think his views should be the sole reference, especially for intra-Catholic and intra-Protestant wars. Johnbod (talk) 02:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  More references needed! 

message: The references in Death Toll point to Necrometrics which is a blog/website not a WP:RS NBeale (talk) 10:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Necrometrics is a blog/website not a RS 

message: In this article it is said that the peace/treaty of Baden was signed on June 16, 1718. However, in the article on the Treaty of Baden itself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Baden_(1714) to which this article refers, it is said that the "treaty was signed on 7 September 1714 in Baden, Switzerland".
So what is the correct date? 2A02:A449:DFE:1:5DB6:E22:1EFE:39D4 (talk) 20:36, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this Latin/German 1726 reprint of the Treaty of Baden, p. 371, it was  / . No other source I can find cites 16 June 1718, and that date doesn't make any sense within the wider context of the Peace of Utrecht. I'll change it, thanks. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treaty of Baden 

message: This whole concept of "wars of religion" is almost certainly an invention of Enlightenment polemicists well after the fact. Just purely in terms of causality, the Reformation followed state-building, and not the other way around. To say nothing of all the side switching and Protestant-Catholic alliances during the period, or the fact that it took 3 decades after the Reformation began for any religious conflict to start, and even then there wasn't a clear and obvious division between Protestants and Catholics. Jonathan f1 (talk) 01:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whig "history"