Talk:Peugeot 404

message: I don't see any use for a section heading with NO information under it (Timeline), so I'm taking it out!  If anyone has any data to add that would go in a Timeline section, feel free to add it back!  SOME of the other Peugeot articles have Timeline sections, but some don't, so it can't be a "standard format" thing.  Thanks! ~~ Mpwrmnt 07:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we have an empty section? 

message: I propose the use of British-English for this article on the following basis:
Following a recent IP-edit, I've looked through this article to determine which version of English is most appropriate (WP:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English). The 404 was sold in many English-speaking countries, many with different language conventions. I have manufacturer's publicity material from the UK, which refers to "saloon" variants, but contemporary price lists for the American market refer to "sedan" variants. So the manufacturer used different English language variants depending on the sales market and there can be no fixed language style on that basis. However, much of the article is from UK sources (road tests and UK specifications) so I propose that for consistency, this form of English is used throughout the article. Any additions specific to other English-speaking markets could be marked up as such; e.g. "the sedan variant for the US market". I hope this proposal helps and reduces unnecessary editing. Wikiwayman (talk) 12:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which version of English? 

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message: I see from the article Pickup truck that there's been a good deal of debate about the definitions, and there's been an edit to this article reflecting the Coupé utility point of view for the 404. Now take a look at this image, which clearly shows that the 404 pickup has a "proper chassis" for the load area, with different (leaf-sprung) suspension, and that the monocoque cab is separate. The load area is not integral with the cab. I personally think it's close enough to the definition to stay a pickup truck, but there's obviously a spectrum of opinion - without getting pedantic, what is it? Wikiwayman (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it simply depends where you learned your English.   For an Australian it's surely a simple Ute (Utility).   In Britain we'd call it a pick-up truck.   (I've not heard it refered to as a coupe except in this wiki-entry.) In terms of where they actually sold the thing, I gather that the strongest markets were in the African continent, especially (but certainly not exclusively) in countries that had been colonised by French people which included in most cases the French language, but also especially in Uganda/Kenya/Tanzania where the success of the 404 sedan/saloon in the Safari Rally deeply impressed people.   So how about "Camionette" which is French for "Little truck"?   Otherwise I think there's a wiki guideline somewhere that says you should decide which version of English you're planning to use and then use it relentlessly throughout the article, but in real life that only seems to work for entries where there are only a few contributors.   Incidentally, and in case anyone is interested, here's what the label at the Peugeot museum says.   They call it (in their quick and wild English translation of their French text) Pick-Up in the first line and utility in the third line but frankly, though theirs is in most respects a most professional and enthusiastic museum, I'm not sure the English language is the thing they do best.   Why should it be?   Regards Charles01 (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If nothing else, I think that the "little truck" deserves more of a mention in this article - I never realised Peugeot had built 800,000+ (enough to justify article notability on its own). Wikiwayman (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree that the pickup deserves a couple of paras to itself.   Actually I find the whole Peugeot 404 entry, to put it charitably, rather unstructured.  But a rewrite without losing any of the information and source notes along the way would be a substantial task.   Maybe adding a picture of a "little truck" in Africa with an informative caption would be a good interim measure.   Just thinking on paper, you understand, but should you feel moved to do it, I would hate to stop you.   I agree that >800,000 volume figure grabbed me.   Off and on I've spent a certain amount of time in France over the years, and although one did used to see 404 camionettes in the cuontryside from time to time, I'm pretty sure that most of them must have ended up some place else.   Hence my grabbing onto the references to the African continent.  Hmmmm & regards Charles01 (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pickup truck]] or [[Coupé utility]]? 

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