Talk:Interstate 440 (North Carolina)

message: I would say there is circumstantial evidence starting to show for NCDOT's plans to truncate I-440:
*New signage on US 1 North approaching I-40 does not show I-440 Outer multiplexed with I-40 East; I-440 East is multiplexed with US 1 on the pullthrough.
*The first roadside sign on US 1 South approaching exit 1B-A has a black covering obscuring the I-440 shield, though the shield is visible on the remaining signs, including a free-standing shield on a post with a directional arrow pointing up the ramp.
Gribble Nation is the cited source for the truncation, but that's a little removed from the official literature for me to be comfortable. A Google News search hasn't turned up anything.
Has anybody seen a NCDOT press release, etc. to support the truncation? —C.Fred (talk) 06:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I havn't seen anything official, but I did find a mention on AA Roads.  He usually cites things well, but this was just a post on Yahoo Groups that is now unavailable.  Other than that, I couldn't find anything either. And what's with the new +/- numbers on the Watchlist?  I haven't seen anything explaining that yet.  --MPD (T / C) 06:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Observation of the behaviour has told me it's the number of characters added/deleted from an article in the most recent revision. That's very handy for blank-the-page vandalism, if you see a large negative number. It's a slick little add; I'm finding it useful, especially since I watch my Watchlist like a hawk for changes. :) —C.Fred (talk) 17:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

text: And there's now a little "What do the colored numbers mean?" link at the top of the watchlist page, too. —C.Fred (talk) 18:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The only main reference that all the big websites you mentioned comes from a News and Observer article from August 27, 2002 (proof as souce http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/i440.html#fn at Kurmi). The article is entitled "Beltline drivers will get new directions.", but since it's so old, newsobserver.com doesn't seem to have it online. So, the source is there, but you'll have to go digging through the hardcopy archives to find the original text. --TinMan 20:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kurumi also referense the FHWA route log. That's another angle to take, if that's searchable online. —C.Fred (talk) 22:06, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Which it is. I'll be updating the article shortly, most likely. —C.Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, that shows 16 miles of I-440 which is a truncation from the whole loop. Now, I just wonder if there will still be "Inner and Outer" designations on signs anywhere else... the whole loop is still is a beltline. I know for I-485, many signs include East/West/North/South along with Inner/Outer.  --TinMan 03:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verifiable source for the truncation? 

message: I'd suggest one of the first things to improve about this article would be the history section which includes the date of 1960 and then pole-vaults to 1991. For instance, this article discusses the lower beltline in 1982 and 1984. That would still leave sizable gaps to either side, but would help. --98.69.170.188 (talk) 10:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason for the pole-vault is because the designation didn't happen till 1991.  However, I am fine with the idea to add history of the freeway before the designation; it should probably be header separated to identify it before I-440.  The lower-half was at one time apart of I-440, but it's also part of I-40; it probably should be included, but not in any dedicated way since it later loses designation.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 15:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: See here.  --Jayron32 19:00, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  I-87 to overlap last couple of miles of I-440