Talk:Canadian Ukrainian

message: As far as I know, and I checked that in several places, there are no clear and universally agreed criteria to tell even the dialect from the language (Rusyn is an example), and even less so to tell the local speak from the dialect. As for being separate languages, mutual intelligibility is usually cited as the prime factor but, again, this isn't math and nothing is absolutely certain. The definitions people give a circumstantial and contradictory. Perhaps the reason is that the issue is often politically charged. 
I suggest we don't bring politics in this particular case and give our patriotisms a break, because, thanks god, there is no political issue in this case. I could kind of see why people, depending on their views, may refuse to see  (or insist on) a separate identity (or lack of it) for the Rusyn or Moldavian language. In this one, however, there is no politics as there are no ways for territories of Alberta to become parts (or separate from) Ukraine,  politically. 
I deliberately  wrote "perhaps a dialect" to leave the ambiguity to be decided elsewhere. Then comes Yakudza and calls it "original research". I am flattered but that shot missed. He will have to stalk me elsewhere to find some other vulnerabilities, which isn't hard, btw. --Irpen 03:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: There is often no firm opinion on separate dialect or even language

message: So how come I can't restore the colour to the side panel?  It indicates which language family the lanuage / dialect / etc. comes from, and never should have been removed.
And why can't I see the "regions" line in that panel?
PS, I don't really care wheather we go with "dialect" or not as long as it based on the opinion of linguists. Kevlar67 09:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical 

message: How about this for an example poem?  It's from 1925 and was published in Winnipeg in the introduction to a basic Ukrainian language reader.  A good patriotic poem about the Canadian Red Ensign.:
Наш прапор.
Наш прапор має три кольори:
Цервоний, білий і синий.
Цервоний ознацає:  ,,Будь відважний``
Вілий ознацає:  ,,Будь цесний``
Синий ознацає:  ,,Будь вірний``
Памятаймо о тім, коли дивимосаь на Наш прапор.
Please check it for typos, etc.  Does anythingone think it would be a useful addition to the article or not?
Could anyone transliterate it (Nash prapor..., etc.)  How about a translation (Our flag... etc.)?
Kevlar67 07:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That should say Білий instead of Вілий. -Iopq 10:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example Poem 

message: It just seems a little clearer to me, when there's another article Ukrainian Canadian about the people. Thoughts? - TheMightyQuill 00:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, first it would be like English language and French language without brackets.  Second, it's not a language but a dialect or even a chronolect, so no, I disagree. Kevlar67 20:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to [[Canadian Ukrainian (language)]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I don't know enough Ukrainian to correct the IPA, but I can see that it's wrong with respect to the value of [y]. Can a speaker fix this up? Jogloran (talk) 02:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA is wrong 

message: Ukrainians have moved to Canada since the third wave, and this can be called a fourth wave. But do new immigrants really speak Canadian Ukrainian at home, different from what is spoken in Ukraine itself? It seems to me that the point of this article is that older Ukrainian speakers in Canada have been away from Ukraine long enough (and they and their children have lived among non-Ukrainian Canadians long enough) that changes and separate developments in the language have taken place. Do recent immigrants from Ukraine adopt these changes so quickly? TooManyFingers (talk) 18:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There is actually very little difference. There are minimal variations in grammar, and I can generate as many new words as I wish, incorporating anglicisms in a manner consistent with the Ukrainian language. I am proficient in both Ukrainian and English, and when communicated with in Canadian Ukrainian, I comprehended everything without the need for additional study of this dialect. – Mariâ Magdalina (talk) 02:57, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of fourth wave immigrants