Talk:Irish traditional music

message: This article inorporates almost all of the material rating to Irish folk music, that used to be present in "Music of Ireland". The idea is to create the equivalent of the article "Folk music of England" and to allow the "Music of Ireland" a new chance to be return to the status of "good article". Ogg (talk) 10:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. There is definitely a value in having the "traditional Irish music" content separated from the more general "Irish music" (which might include "Irish pop music", "Irish classical music", etc). However, the name of this article (though equivalent to the corresponding English article) is possibly not ideal. Per Wikipedia:COMMONNAME, we should use the "most common name of a person or thing" when naming articles. Unfortunately the name of this article isn't ideal. In short, the VAST majority of people in Ireland (locals and visitors) would never refer to "folk music" in this way. It's always "Traditional music", "Trad music" or some variant. (Not "folk music"). Can we move/rename this article to Irish traditional music? Guliolopez (talk) 17:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no strong feelings either way. The problem lies with those singer-songwriters who call themselves "folk singers". Where do they belong? They are not traditional, so they don't belong here. There are not very popular, so they can hardly justify going into pop or rock. Should "Folk music of England" be renamed "Traditional English music"? Ogg (talk) 22:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Organisation of content of this and related pages

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message: Yes you know your stuff but this is meant to be an article highlighting the major players. It's not a laundry list of everybody you have heard of or like.
* Sean Maguire. Fair enough, but you linked into the wrong person's article.
* Jackie Roach - very minor 
* Joey Flynn - minor
* Luke O'Malley - minor league
* Andy Ross Conroy (1911 - 1999). Poorly represented (if at all) on recordings so should not be mentioned here.
The following are significant but should be added to "Celtic music in the United States" rather than here:
* Randal Bays
* Joe Derrane (I wrote his article)
* Marie Reilly Ogg (talk) 07:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions by The StoneCrusher 

message: I would suggest that if the new section "Festivals" is to be part of this article, it should be done properly, and not simply mention an obscure German festival simply for advertizing purposes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hohenloh (talk • contribs) 13:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent addition 

message: Why is there so much stuff about dance?  It only clutters up this article.  The title is "Folk MUSIC of Ireland".  I suggest removing all but a couple of short paragraphs on dance.  Put them into their own article.Hohenloh (talk) 23:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dance? 

message: The audio samples by "Dancing Willow" have absolutely nothing to do with traditional irish folk music. They are not representative, I guess that the band wanted to use Wikipedia for self-promotion. I removed them. They should be replaced with real samples like the Harmonica tune. There are quite a few available in the Archive.org audio archives. --79.223.174.3 (talk) 18:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound/Music samples 

message: This article is designed to deal with music in the whole of the island, but does not have anything specific on music north of the border. There are obvious reasons why this is the case, as the flutes and drums of Orange Bands have been seen as instruments of oppression by some northern Irish Catholics. However, in a balanced article it should be possible to produce something that covers this important aspect of traditional music on the island without being partisan or offensive. I will try to put something together when I can find time, but I am flagging this up for comment from editors since it may be contentious.--SabreBD (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Irish music

message: This is very inaccurate and obviously doesn't cite any references as it's very confused and conflated.
I will rewrite it when I get a chance. Keening and popular laments are very different song forms and have totally different functions. The current section is way off the mark.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seamasmac (talk • contribs) 10:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caoineadh songs 

message: User at 72.37.171.20, if you're reading... I moved your addition of Sean Keane from the "U.S." players paragraph to the "modern" players paragraph, as his page lists him as being born in Dublin.  I don't see any reference to his being particularly represntative of a regional style - if you have a reliable source that indicates he is, then we should probably move him there.  I also removed 
"the Master himself", since that description seems like a matter of personal opinion (not that I'm disagreeing with you, but it deviates from Wikipedia's intended neutral tone). Dereksmootz (talk) 21:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sean Keane in Fiddle 

message: Nowhere in the page is there any discussion of scales, modes, or other characteristics of the music that distinguish it from other kinds of folk music or common practice. Many summaries are available (eg http://www.firepowr.com/imusic.html) and some of this information should be added to the article. It's all very well to talk about the origins and cultural context of the music, but you could read the entire article without any the wiser as to what it actually sounds like or how you would recognize it as being particularly Irish.
98.248.125.108 (talk) 18:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical characteristics 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the last paragraph of the introduction, we read, "By the 1970s Irish traditional music was again influencing music in the USA and further afield in Australia and Europe." Since Ireland is in Europe, Europe is not "further afield" than the USA. I suggest a rephrasing to, "...music in the USA as well as in Australia and mainland Europe." --88.151.31.18 (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further afield 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below; the category can be discussed separately at WP:CFD if necessary.  Dekimasuよ! 06:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Irish traditional music →  – consistency with the other articles Category:Folk music by country & with Category:Irish folk music and as the new title has long been one of the akas in the premise Solidest (talk) 05:19, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 12:50, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 June 2022