Talk:Noshir Gowadia

message: Anyone know of anything on his trial? Saw the B2 on Futureweapons(Military Channel) and happen to see this guy. 68.47.63.154 03:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added news about the continuance for 2008.  --KNHaw (talk) 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: August 2007

message: a) Germany is a very close ally of the USA and if any German official would have been offered top secret US material, Germany immediately would have informed the FBI. Maybe he offered data to some individuals from Germany, but surely not to the German state.
b) Switzerland doesn't have a aerospace industry that would be interested in the B2 engine's, therefore I removed that country too.
c) I also doubt that Gowadia has offered data to Israel - one of the closest US-allies, they would have turned him in too. He wouldn't be that stupid.
I guess he really sold data to China and offered it to Iran and India, but he surely has not offered this data to official from nations so closely allied with the USA. --noclador 15:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article should report what he's been accused of, not what we personally think he's guilty of, so I'm adding those back in, with more citations. You're correct though that he's accused only of sending information to individuals in Germany, Switzerland, and Israel, not to selling it to those countries' governments. --Delirium (talk) 06:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  re. Germany and Switzerland 

message: It is law in the USA that court trial must be within one year or the case cannot be pursued by the authorities. This is law to protect citizens against state and governement oppression via politically motivated lenghty legal action.
How come he has been under arrest for almost 3 years? Things like that are only seen in continental Europe, where law is based on the ancient Roman principles and the french code Bonaparte Napoleon created out of it. Sometimes they hold people for up to 5 years without verdict. I think american law is based on the ancient anglo-saxon tribal customs, which is a totally different venue. 91.83.18.103 (talk) 20:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're curious, I'd suggest you do a bit of digging.  You're right in that his defense can invoke that right and demand the trial speed up, but most likely they're just as busy gathering data as the prosecution is.  My hunch is that it's a tactical decision by his team in order to get him the best chance of a defense.  --KNHaw (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal contradiction? 

message: The article header says he could get the electric chair, but this is impossible. The SCOTUS has a decades old decision which does not allow execution for any crime not resulting in death. He is just a white collar criminal who didn't stab or shoot anybody, so life in prison is the max he could get.
Although I think US gov't willingly makes a mockery of the speedy trial law to keep him arrested until Mr. Gowadia, being an old man, dies in prison "naturally", so the FBI does not need to bother with a trial. I can't get why he lacks any public attention, when there is so much focus on Gitmo. He been behind bars without a trial for much longer than many of the Gitmo jihadists.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.97.110.76 (talk) 12:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Executable? No way! 

message: The Gowadia B-2 design's top secret cross section has been leaked by Ed Snowden via Germany's Der Spiegel:
http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-35687.pdf
One must wonder if we will also learn soon, whether the serb SAMs downed a B-2 Spirit alongside the F-117 in 1999 or not? 82.131.221.237 (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let it Snowden, let it Snowden! 

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message: There is no reference to his education. Was he like Bob Lazar? Just auditing courses in college but was never enrolled? 2600:8801:2E07:2F00:2529:30D9:608D:21AE (talk) 20:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education?