Talk:Rod Steiger

message: Should the article on Rod Steiger include an infobox? 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Had there been any recent discussion on this that would necessitate an RFC? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: There was an RfC on this like 10 years ago. I added an infobox to the article the other day, not knowing the history, and was reverted and told the matter would need to go to RfC again. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Yes. One has to realize infoboxes are the norm on wikipedia for important and notable people. The lack of an infobox for Steiger gives off the (false) impression he is not significant. 2600:1702:5F0:1B00:2129:A188:A6A6:6E01 (talk) 22:20, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on whether or not [[Rod Steiger]] should have an infobox 

message: Please stop edit-warring and seek consensus for the content you want to include. As Johnbod noted in the discussion above, your proposal over-emphasizes personal details (including naming a non-notable child, which should not be done) and obscures what the individual is actually known for. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonetheless, there was a 5 to 2 vote in favour of an infobox, and Johnbod's concerns were not shared by any other editor. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 15:12, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Johnbod was the only person to address specific parameters, either positively or negatively, which indicates that you have not achieved consensus for the contents you propose - only the template, which was in place both with and without your disputed content. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It is clearly common practice to include spouses in the infobox when reliably sourced. See articles on comparable actors and actresses: Marlon Brando, Marilyn Monroe, etc. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 15:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Which parameters to use in a particular infobox is determined through consensus among the editors at each individual article. Which has not yet been achieved here. Please self-revert until that happens. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't object to an ibox if it gave me important information about his career and awards won etc. rather than trivia about his five wives and cemetery.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I was watching On the Waterfront last night noticed this article didn't have an infobox. It's kind of funny to find the same editors debating the topic here. An infobox similar to the Laurence Olivier infobox would be an improvement to this article. It might take a RfC or two before it's included, but the community seems to be moving in the pro-infobox direction. Change takes time, but eventually one will be included here. "It wasn't him, Charley, it was you." Nemov (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal details

message: Should the biography of Rod Steiger include an infobox? Nemov (talk) 04:33, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the heads up. La rodman (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I copied SchroCat's comment and left a message as well. Nemov (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

text: There is a very devoted segment of editors opposed to infoboxes on biographies for a variety of reasons. You can review the previous discussions above. The one oppose from before wrote "." This version of the infobox doesn't mention marriages and links to the list awards/filmography and the editor still opposed this modest infobox. Having a RfC is basically the only way to break the deadlock on some of these infobox discussions. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 12:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Was this ever discussed somewhere, i.e. was there a "Infoboxes or No Infoboxes" centralized discussion at one point? It just seems like such a strange thing to contest. Zaathras (talk) 21:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rod Steiger infobox RfC 

message: Please leave your comment in one the sections below. If you have questions for commenters please address it in discussion section. Here is an example of an infobox that could be included. Thanks!
====Yes====
#The purpose of an infobox is . I visited this article a few days ago while I was watching On the Waterfront. I wanted some quick facts such as filmography and awards he won. Plus, simple stuff like his age when he died. This type of information I expect to find quickly in an infobox. The information is in this article, but it’s not summarized in a way that’s quick to consume.Infoboxes are a valuable part of the user experience when navigating an article on Wikipedia. Data analysis of Wikipedia articles show that users find the information contained in the infobox valuable. Making information easy to find and consume is one this project's highest priorities and that's the purpose of an infobox. This article would be improved if one were included. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 04:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: #The purpose of an infobox is . I visited this article a few days ago while I was watching On the Waterfront. I wanted some quick facts such as filmography and awards he won. Plus, simple stuff like his age when he died. This type of information I expect to find quickly in an infobox. The information is in this article, but it’s not summarized in a way that’s quick to consume.Infoboxes are a valuable part of the user experience when navigating an article on Wikipedia. Data analysis of Wikipedia articles show that users find the information contained in the infobox valuable. Making information easy to find and consume is one this project's highest priorities and that's the purpose of an infobox. This article would be improved if one were included. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 04:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Yes

message: #Oppose I generally support infoboxes in articles where there is a lot of data or some important facts to highlight but not in articles where no vital information about the career of the individual is given and it highlights trivia. The proposed box with links to the filmography and awards is an improvement on the one with five wives and cemetery but they are just links. This has gone 8 years without one, read by tens of millions of people, and only a few people have ever complained. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:33, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: No

message: Pinging the editors from the previous discussion. Please comment if you are so inclined. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 13:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the heads up. La rodman (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I copied SchroCat's comment and left a message as well. Nemov (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

text: There is a very devoted segment of editors opposed to infoboxes on biographies for a variety of reasons. You can review the previous discussions above. The one oppose from before wrote "." This version of the infobox doesn't mention marriages and links to the list awards/filmography and the editor still opposed this modest infobox. Having a RfC is basically the only way to break the deadlock on some of these infobox discussions. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 12:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Was this ever discussed somewhere, i.e. was there a "Infoboxes or No Infoboxes" centralized discussion at one point? It just seems like such a strange thing to contest. Zaathras (talk) 21:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Should we add his marriages onto the infobox like all the other infoboxes? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Since he was married 5 times I would recommend leaving it out otherwise it'll just dominate what is currently a modest infobox. Nemov (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inbox fix