Talk:2007 New York City steam explosion

message: There were 6 similar long-distance shots of the steam cloud from Flickr, of which I chose and uploaded 3. Which one do you think is best?
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The original 6 on Flickr are: , , , , , . -- BlastOButter42 See Hear Speak 12:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a bunch of photos under CC-BY-SA-2.0 here: .  I've uploaded one at :Image:NYC steam explosion 2007 people debris.jpg and will add it to the article. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 12:59, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: The Steam didn't explode, the pipe did.
AceKingQueenJack 18:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to New York steam pipe explosion? 

message: Hi - I'm a relatively new Wiki user, and don't know the procedures for editing a page. I thought I'd pass on a link about the Con Ed Steam System regulatory overview.  The Consolidated Edison Company of New York (http://www.coned.com) owns the Steam Business Unit (http://www.coned.com/steam/). (Or maybe they're technically called "Con Edison steam operations", I'm not sure.)  The NY Public Service Commission (http://www.dps.state.ny.us/) regulates rates and revenues of the Steam Busniess Unit in the same general way that it regulates New York State's electric, gas and other utilities. 
The most recent rate plan was adopted by the Commission and became effective September 22, 2006, in Case 05-S-1376 (Proceeding on Motion of the Commission as to the Rates, Charges, Rules and Regulations of Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc. for Steam Service.) That Order is available at 
http://www3.dps.state.ny.us/pscweb/WebFileRoom.nsf/Web/55664328E5E50A53852571EE0054B5ED/$File/301A_05S1376.pdf?OpenElement 
Also note: In a press release, "Con Edison is urging all customers in the East Midtown area of Manhattan to discontinue their use of non-essential electrical appliances and equipment until problems on electrical cables can be resolved following yesterday’s steam-main rupture." See http://www.coned.com/messages/pr20070719_2.asp 
Last, a decent overview of the Steam system is at http://www.coned.com/steam/pdf/Steam_ops_overview.pdf
Energy4U 13:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this info has broader implications than just this incident, I think this should go into a new article, perhaps Manhattan steam network or ConEd steam network or ConEd steam operations.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 16:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I see someone started New York steam system.  I'll make these links redirects to that. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 16:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Background 

message: Trying not to sound callous; should the death be attributed to the explosion? It was a heart attack, possibly brought about by poor health and panic. Isn't it speculation  to attribute it directly to the incident? --Monotonehell 05:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, all other news sources do, including the New York Times. -- BlastOButter42 See Hear Speak 23:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I placed the above question the article has been edited and now doesn't outright attribute her death directly to the accident. The previous version was what I had a problem with. The current version is okay. --Monotonehell 13:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death by heart attack 

message: Try looking at the Spirax Sarco Website they describe water hammer correctly.
I agree, but verification should be in order here. Either water hammer or the phenomenon described in the article (water contact/steam condensation) could have caused a rupture, but it would be unusual for both to occur at the same time. I think it was one or the other.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.101.126 (talk) 21:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water Hammer 

message: "However, anyone entering the containment zone was still required to wear a respirator and protective clothing during the clean-up."
I went into the frozen area without a mask (after going through a police checkpoint).  A lot of the police, etc wore masks, but not everyone was required to.  I know this is original research, so I'm not editing the page.  But, the statement is also not supported by the sources given.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.188.199.11 (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Respirators/Frozen Area 

message: Reference 21, used 4 times, does no longer exist. The disadvantage of using newspaper articles as references.
Adacus12 (talk) 00:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deadlinks 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

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thread_title:  Dead link 2 

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thread_title:  Dead link 3 

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thread_title:  Dead link 4 

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thread_title:  Dead link 6 

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thread_title:  Dead link 7 

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thread_title:  Dead link 9 

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--JeffGBot (talk) 16:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 13 

message: I was under the impression that a steam explosion is one caused by sudden and rapid boiling of water, and the massive expansion of the water vapor thereafter, sometimes rupturing a vessel, sometimes not. This is simply a burst pipe releasing pressurized steam into the atmosphere with great force. Not sure if that counts as a "Steam explosion", even if that's what the media called it..45Colt 04:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this really a steam explosion? 

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