Talk:Escapism

message: I believe the claim that "the usual enemies of escapism are jailers" is actually "the usual enemies of escape are jailers" though I haven't the exact quote at the moment (the claim is uncited, anyway, which should probably also be fixed).  Though this may seem unimportant, it is significant in that jailers do not mind escapism at all, as fantasy author Michael Moorcock has argued.  However, Moorcock, I believe actually misquotes Tolkien and Lewis, who believe that fantasy offers real escape, rather than the illusion of it. Nurambar 14:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: I came to search this page as i believe my creative practice belies a kind of 'escapist attitude'; I therefore was wondering if any artist before has considered her/himself an Escapist. I bet there are plenty. With the Beauty of Waste in decontextualised form I find solace from urban paranoia & mundane preoccupations, at the same time isolating myself from a social call for positive activity or political activism. A bit like Matisse in between the World Wars, as opposed to Picasso who produced Guernica. I paradoxically still prefer Picasso by the way. www.flickr.com/photos/simonestrifele  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.178.203 (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Escapism & Art, or: Escapist Art, or: an idea for the Art Movement of Escapism

message: "Escapist societies are common in dystopian novels such as Fahrenheit 451, where society uses television and "seashell radios" to escape an otherwise bland life, and Brave New World, where drugs and recreational sex are used."
Partly I agree with the above statement: in Fahrenheit 451 the society (through TV-walls) institutionalizedly "escapes" the threat of war and the (supposedly unwritten) rigorous laws that prohibit too much thinking, communication between close relatives, driving below a speed limit and/or reading books. But in Brave New World there is nothing that a person would despise if went trough successful juvenile hypnopædia previously (a fictional educational method to affect people's values beyond their level of consciousness). And we only get to know Bernard Marx who went through unsuccessful hypnopædia. In this fictional world it is important for everyone to do things in order to evade getting bored, and that's why people are interested in overcomplicated games, orgy-porgy events, soma consumption and the like. This is the lifestyle of those who accept the reality and who don't flee from it. The depicted society is considered distopian because while we sympathise with Bernard who once says that he "rather be himself, sad, than another person, happy", trough his emotions we arrive at judging the values of the shown society. Figuratively the depicted state just vegetates, it doesn't embrace any ideas.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.49.87 (talk) 01:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Escapist societies

message: I'm going to remove the prod tag for deletion because there are at least 3 notable writers cited, contradicting the claim the article is completely OR.  Tempshill (talk) 06:21, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing prod tag 

message: I see the whole discussion about Escapism focuses on its negative aspects. I wonder if escapism could be related at all to the ideas of Liminoid (Victor Turner), Magic Circle (Huizinga) and Play in general (Sutton-Smith, Caillois). Those authors mostly account "escape time" as a space for creativity and subversion of previously established social structures.
I honestly don't know if escapism actually refers to something totally different. The context I generally see associated to the term has to do with "letting off steam" from the seriousness of work and daily commitments. In that sense, "escapist" acitivities such as hobbies in general could be regarded as largely constructive. And they can also hold very important social functions (building networks through common interests, etc.)
Any ideas on this??
P.S.: I'm a relatively new Wikipedia contributor, sorry if I'm using the wrong method to raise this discussion...
Feclips (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Escapism vs Play 

message: There is no reference to idealism. A section for idealism as an escapism is necessary.--98.199.22.63 (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idealism 

message: I have deleted much of the vandalism that was done to this article. This was mostly of the 'copy and paste' variety. Hopefully I have not accidentally deleted some of the original content.DrMicro (talk) 11:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Re vandalism

message: 72.191.211.45 (talk) 07:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was escapism first used as a word? 

message: while the given descriptions of various aspects of escapism are fine, they all seem to be in favor of escapism. Escapism can obviously have negative side effects to happiness and general wellbeing, especially in modern society (Hikkikomori being one Example). 
Not saying that the positive parts of the entry should be removed, but I think the should be entries concerning the detrimental effects of escapism as well to balance it out (the entry is short anyway). I can't find the specific files on my computer but some western scholars in Japan have written how the consumerist lifestyle has affected Japanese society, especially the entertainment industry. 
Anyone interested should definitely make the necessary edits (with the proper citations). I would but I don't have the time. 203.10.91.80 (talk) 08:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This article contains too much biased language. It does not provide an objective overview of escapism 206.74.44.239 (talk) 13:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Escapist Article seems to be one sided in favour of escapism