Talk:List of mobile network operators

message: That seems more meaningful than total subscribers. --ciphergoth 16:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What does "proportionate subscribers" mean? Proportional to what? Brian Shaposky (talk) 17:42, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Surely Proportionate Subscribers Should Be The Sort Order?

message: I think the Technology columns really need a fix for consistency. For example: In the US networks, GPRS is counted as "Technology" but in the Irish column, it is not (even though all 3 GSM networks have it). I also have failed to notice any other list which counts GPRS as "Technology" but I may have missed them. So should it be or shouldn't it be? --RHeodt 18:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Consistency Problems: Column "Technology"

message: Country according to penetration rate. 
As is, the penetration rate is listed for each country's entry if listed at all. 
The tables could be improved by listing this info in a separate table. --bjelleklang 10:18, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Table: Countries By Penetration Rate 

message: One of the best on wikipedia IMO. thx whoever wrote it... I wonder any reason the list cuts off w/o smaller operators?  --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.5.249 (talk) 03:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Great Article

message: The lists of mobile network operators is just marvelous. thanks for all who have contributed.
What I now look for is a list that point out which operator is owned by whom and what stakes they have. does such a relationship/network description already exist?  --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 15.203.137.74 (talk) 11:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A related issue: Are Verizon Wireless subscribers listed twice?  Vodafone lists "USA" in the "Main Markets" column, but I don't think they operate directly in the US.  Any US "subscribers" they have would be thru their ownership stake in VZW. Jason McHuff (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who Owns Whom?

message: I'm a bit unsure about how to interpret the different numbers.. I just put in updated figures for Telenor (90.0 and 142.7M), but from their spreadsheet it looks like the 90M are "wholly owned" subscribers, and the remaining 52.7M are given as "Associated companies: No. of mobile subscriptions (100%)". So is 142.7M then the real "proportionate" figure, and the "total" unknown, or is it correct as it stands? - BsL (talk) 09:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proportionate? 

message: Right now, when this article refers to the United States of America, sometimes "USA" is used, and other times "United States" is used. I propose that these be standardized for easy searching across the entire article.
Ahlfi006 (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard name 

message: "Singapore Telecommunications Limited (SGX: T48, ASX: SGT), commonly abbreviated as SingTel, is a telecommunications company, with a combined mobile subscriber base of 249.4 million customers from its own operations and regional associates at the end of March 2009" and yet is astoundingly absent from this list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.88.165 (talk) 15:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete Data 

message: I'd think using the old template with proportionate subscribers represent a better picture.Just added SingTel and surprisingly it's the third largest mobile network, excluding the indirect stakes gained in Zain via Bharti.
srikrishnak (talk)07:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prefer the older way of sort order based on proportionate data 

message: The table looks awful and needs serious cleanup, its barely readable on my laptop. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:09, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table rendering issues 

message: China Mobile is first on the list, however if you press 'show' in the main market column for Vodafone (2nd) China mobile is there too. Does this mean that Vodafone has a minority stake in China mobile or vice versa? Dylan (talk) 16:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vodafone vs China Mobile 

message: Added SingTel again to the list (4th time if i remember correctly. Also propose to remove 'technologies filed' and add 'revenue' to the table. 
srikrishnak (talk)02:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I second adding a Revenue column Brian Shaposky (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prefer proportional data. Also wonder why SingTel removed again from the list

message: The information in the 'Total subscribers' column needs to be more clearly defined as the current position is misleading and inaccurate, with different methods of measurement used for different companies. In my view there should be two columns for number of subscribers: (1) the number of subscribers in wholly or majority owned networks; and (2) the number of proportionate customers (i.e. also including minority-owned networks, but with subscriber numbers in both majority and minority owned networks adjusted for ownership percentage).
To take one example of how the present infomration is misleading, the total subscriber numbers quoted for SingTel at present is 382,814,000. However this number refers to the total number of subscribers in all majority and minority owned networks, not adjusted for shareholding i.e. even if the shareholding is 1% the number of subscribers is still counted in total (the comparable figure for Vodafone would be well over 500 million, and third-party sources never describe SingTel as being the second-largest mobile phone company measured by subscribers). 
This is clearly meaningless, and makes comparison with other companies in the list where the 'Total number' refers to something very much more meaningful impossible. 'Total subscribers' should be defined both clearly and precisely, and not so widely as to be completely meaningless. The present approach satifies neither requirement.Rangoon11 (talk) 11:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading and incorrect subscriber numbers 

message: Not sure if this is an issue with the text used in the columns but it doesn't seems to sort right when clicking on the various columns.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.131.177.17 (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorting Bug

message: For example: T-Mobile is ranked 17 in this list "measured by number of subscribers" (first line of article) with 328 million subscribers, while TeliaSonera is ranked 12 with 160 million subscribers in this list "measured by number of subscribers". The first step to a real factual base would be to move out the references from the numbers columns into a column by itself, so that the table could become really sortable by subscriber number. The column "rank" could then be dropped. --L.Willms (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranking does not correspond to "Total subscribers", and table is not sortable by total subscribers 

message: I have a problem editing the article for the telcos do not provide separate data for "total" and "proportional" subscribers. For example, China Mobile only states that it has 667 million subscribers, but it does not state if their subscribers in Hong Kong and Pakistan is included in this number.
Also, for T-Mobile, their Q1 2012 data only showed that they only have 129 million subcribers, dropping them to #17 in the list.
I have an issue for NTT Docomo, too. It is estimated that they have "60 million subscribers" in Japan, but if we'll include their stake in PLDT and Tata Docomo, the numbers would sure to inflate, placing them somewhere in the Top 30.
I don't really know, but maybe we can drop having 2 columns and instead just post here what number the telcos say? Most telcos report only the "proportional" number, I believe.
I just ask for clarification, as a reference to future wikipedia contributors who will edit this article.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ppby (talk • contribs) 06:36, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I was also finding it very difficult in getting the proportionate subscribers. I believe the strategy followed by most of the telcos is that the total subscribers of a majority ownership is taken as their own. For eg: Vodafone's total subscribers from their site includes numbers from Vodafone India in full, in which they have a majority stake. But does not include those from Airtel India, in which they have a minority stake. Machinist 88 (talk) 18:30, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proportional vs. Total 

message: …who own and operate Cricket Wireless? --Jerome Potts (talk) 17:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about [[Leap Wireless]]? 

message: Kindly update the list as per latest ranking brought out by  a sister associate of GSM Association, one of the most reputed data analyzing organization, or by other reliable sources, as there are lot of variations in these rankings. for example Reliance Mobile is ranked 16 on Wiki list while, it is ranked 8th by GSM Association. --Wiki.Gunjan (talk) 19:29, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New listing 

message: Airtel is listed under Singtel's entry. But if you see, Singtel just owns 35% of Airtel and still is a minority shareholder. The bulk of the shares lie with the public and the Mittal family which runs the company. Thus I think it's only fair to make Airtel a new entry, like it was a few months ago.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.91.78.234 (talk) 00:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airtel is missing from the rankings.  

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message: Thanks for this great collection! I added the facts to wikidata (see e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q741618) using the newly created number of subscribers property
In case you're interested, you may want to use could add the number of subscribers (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3744) to further telecommunication companies.
Givegivetake (talk) 20:41, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikidata: Number of Subscribers property 

message: Vodafone Ukraine and MTS Ukraine is the same operator (MTS Ukraine was rebranded to Vodafone in 2015). Here it is listed twice: for Vodafone and for MTS. In operator's annual reports MTS includes 20.9 mln Ukrainian customers, but Vodafone does not list Ukraine as opration country.--Anatoliy (Talk) 19:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vodafone and MTS 

message: Dear users, Good morrow everyone,
recently the unregistered user  has deleted Tim from the table together with its datas and information provided with references/sources. If that user, "s/he" retains that Tim was wrongly reported in that list, s/he do - at least - should demonstrate why it's incorrect with equally valid references (actually datas seem demonstrate it was legitimately in tha table; moreover in analogue wiki pages in other languages it is present), otherwise s/he was committing vandalism and/or revisions based only on her/his own opinion. --BOSS.mattia (talk) 11:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing of Tim from the table without any referenced motivation 

message: mobile company of iran was removed i guess it has 80 million subs.5.75.38.85 (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed mci 

message: I lost my free government snap benefit cell phone that I purchased. Wh can I do? 2600:1702:3CC0:4880:A0AC:95F4:727E:367F (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost phone