Template talk:Green Day

message: I Fought the Law is a cover, but it was also released as an iTunes single 
I think this is good enough to qualify putting it in the "singles" section. anyone else??
Aeris gd 07:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I fought the law - it is a single 

message: Should Jesus of Suburbia be included in the "Famous songs" section? I'm adding it, but should it be there?Trogdor077 01:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Naw, its not big enough, not like basket case for instance. Why was this template made smaller??  --  Mac Davis] ⌇☢ ญƛ. 08:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Either being a huge hit or being a single. Which is why Jesus of Suburbia should be there. --PokeOnic (Talk) 21:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't it just be called "Singles"?  WesleyDodds 03:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do note that the Famous songs list isn't meant to contain all their singles, only some of their more well-known songs. Jesus of Suburbia has been removed as it wasn't a huge hit. Andrew Eng 17:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant was that any selection of "Famous songs" is kind of arbitrary, as others have stated.  "Singles", however, can be conclusively listed.  WesleyDodds 03:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous songs 

message: They are just session musicians who play with them sometimes. St jimmy 11:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hence why they are on the second row and smaller. It,spretty standard in these templates. Circeus 21:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NOSt jimmy 10:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yea but that means that theyre former members they shouldnt be included at all on the template. Adozenlies97 (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

text: They are already listed under "Related articles". This is a navigation template, not an infobox. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It can work as both. Many other band's templates have a touring members section (like the Dave Matthews Band template).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman15317 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No thanks. Again, this is a navigation template, not an infobox. The number of subdivisions should be kept to a minimum. There is no reason to create a new section that would only include 2 links. And as I said, the links are already provided. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, just giving ideas for the template.--Starman15317 (talk) 04:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason White and Jason Freese are not in Green Day 

message: I did a famous songs section, but it is songs that are famous to fans, not any old Joe Schmoe.  Like St. Jimmy, for instance, or Dominated Love Slave, they are popular among fans but may not be well known among others.  I guess it is free for constructive criticism.  Notice not all singles are there. --Therealmikelvee 16:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't the best way to use the template.  There should be a category anyway listing all Green Day songs; we should only list the singles on the template.  In addition, it should conform to the standard band template look, so all those colors should go.  WesleyDodds 21:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well... 

message: I added an 'other' section which has The Network, Cigarettes and Valentines and American Idiot: The Motion Picture on it. Thee things tie in with green day, but couldn't be placed anywhere else on the template. Scrumshus 20:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other

message: She, J.A.R., Walking Contracdidction, Macy's Day Parade, and Maria are not Green Day singles. They have no Billboard status chronology, but although msuic videos were made for some of them, they were never official singles. Removed.
She, Walking Contradiction, and  Macy's Day Parade ARE singles. Please refer to their articles. Orfen 01:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maria was a single too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.206.159 (talk) 00:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it wasn't. Please read single (music) to learn the definition of a single. Radio airplay, a music video, or even charting do not necessarily equate to a single. A single is a song released independently of the album, in its own format. "Maria" was never released in any other format other than on the album International Superhits. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles 

message: Mr. Mac Davis, why did you delete J.A.R. and I fought the law and put on Poprocks and Coke under the singles section?  Just because Poprocks has a music video on the DVD doesn't make it a single.  Anybody else can confirm?
Aeris gd 19:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if it was released as a single, but it was proved above that J.A.R. is a single. Hello2112 23:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlike "J.A.R.", "Poprocks and Coke" wasn't released to raio as a single and didn't chart.  In fact, if I remember correctly "Maria" was released to radio to promote the comp.  So it doesn't belong.  WesleyDodds 02:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pop rocks and coke? 

message: Which category should it be put in: EPs or Compilations/Live? Hello2112 23:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foot In Mouth EP 

message: Whoever it is, stop adding the three other EPs. They are SINGLES. And leave the American Idiot EP there. This is seriously getting irritating, and I consider it vandalism. Hello2112 23:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The EP section 

message: Never have I seen the album years attached on a band template. I have removed them, as it makes it look a little more tidy. -- Reaper  X 17:37, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The years

message: Green Day       	Green Day       	
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Discography     	Discography     	
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Is anyone for this more organized template? Ṣ₡ЯՄ♏ʂɧ♆☭ ♲ recycle kids! omg i'm ur biggest fan...➤ 23:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New template design 

message: Stop deleting this from the template.--Greenday21 (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk Rock 

message: On the template I was wondering if someone could add an other songs section in the template.Songs like "2000 Lightyears Away" and "Maria".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CAPTAIN234 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that a Other Songs section should be added and should list Last of the American Girls.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman15317 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is already listed under "Related articles". This is a navigation template, not a discography. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that, I'm just saying that this section should be made to put Last of the American Girls and any other songs that have videos or are usually played live, but aren't singles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman15317 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, this is not a discography or a list of songs, it's a navigation template. Its sole purpose is to provide a navigational link between related articles. Any song that has an article should (and does) have a link within the template. Last of the American Girls is currently the only existing article about a Green Day song that is not a single. Creating a separate section in the template for just 1 link would be stupid. It fits just dandy under "Related articles". No other articles should be created for "other songs that have videos or are usually played live, but aren't singles", as these would not pass the notability criteria for songs (also, "songs that are usually played live" could cover half the band's catalog). --IllaZilla (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, good point.--Starman15317 (talk) 03:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Songs? 

message: I'm guessing Adozenlies97 thought the green was pretty, so it seemed like a perfectly plausible thing to do. I have no clue about policies for this, but I do know the colour is definitely superfluous, and removing the categories - smart move there. Then to top it off, instead of making it an easy one edit revert, he decides to replace the Singles template with this piece of crap as well, so now somoene has to edit dozens of pages to fix it up. Thanks Adozenlies97! You're a real winner. Someone want to pull out AWB? k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 04:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed :) Maul day (talk) 19:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Legend :) k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 03:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent template changes 

message: Does anyone else think the 21 Guns Live EP and Last Night on Earth EP should be placed in the EP section rather than live album? I think that EP would be a better classification for them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.83.133 (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Live EPs 

message: I have just noticed that there is a page for the song St. Jimmy. I don't think it was released as a single. Does that mean it should go in related projects? Rock drum (talk) 08:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. It's not a single and doesn't pass WP:NSONGS anyway, so it should be redirected to the album article. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. Thanks. I notice somebody else has already done it anyway. Rock drum (talk) 18:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Jimmy? 

message: Its a song that was nominated for a grammy! it should have its own pg shouldnt it and thus be put into related articles?? as its not a single but its an obviously well regarded song  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeanjones01 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't really the place to ask; this page is for discussing the template itself, not potential new articles. I suggest asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Day. But first, decide if it passes WP:NSONGS; not every song is notable enough for an independent article. If all there is to say about "Espionage" is that it was nominated for a Grammy, that's easily mentioned in the article about the soundtrack album or film itself. It wouldn't fill more than 1 or 2 sentences of a separate article, which isn't enough to justify having one. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Espionage!! 

message: Should this be linked to in the singles section? It is mentioned as a single on Green Day's discography There's also some information here. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 18:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless it has its own article, then no. The navbox is for navigation between related articles, not subsections, and "21 Guns" is already linked. Remember: it's a navigation template, not a discography box. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  21 Guns w. the cast of american Idiot 

message: I guess this song has been in and out of the 'Singles' and 'Related' sections alot! It is a single, the article says it! It's got a video (but 'Last Ride In' does and that's not a single). Why should it be in the related section? It's a little confusing --77.99.231.37 (talk) 14:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It has received airplay, and charted, and has a music video, but technically it hasn't been released as a single yet (I stress yet; it's entirely likely that it will be released in single format sometime soon). So it doesn't really belong in the singles section. There are plenty of examples of songs that have charted or even had videos but were never technically released in the "single" format. Whether "Last of the American Girls" is released in single format remains to be seen. But we do have an article on it, as it has charted, so it fits better for now under "related articles". --IllaZilla (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for explaining it. Downloads seem to have a big effect on charts nowadays, and not all of them are singles!--77.99.231.37 (talk) 18:27, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's set to be released on June 18 2010. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 16:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  --IllaZilla (talk) 22:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.greendayauthority.com/news/547/ Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 16:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As previously discussed many times on various Green Day-related article talk pages, greendayauthority.com is a fan site and not a reliable source. It has no official connection to the band or its record label and is not a "reliable, third-party, published source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". --IllaZilla (talk) 04:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember it being ready for pre order on the German Amazon site, http://www.amazon.de/Last-American-Girls-Green-Day/dp/B003M0HVIO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1277031529&sr=8-3
It's clearly listed as a single.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fewfeet (talk • contribs) 11:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Where? BOVINEBOY2008 :) 12:43, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now its a single (as yet only in Germany) but still a single, ill just put it in the singles now  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeanjones (talk • contribs) 03:27, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's not there any more. Why is it not a single? Is it because it is a promo or download or whatever? What was "J.A.R." and "Walking Contradiction" to be included then?--90.212.181.118 (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Last of the American Girls' 

message: I recently changed the infobox to look like this, so it's easier to organize the listed singles. But then it was reverted to this, under the reason that it makes the infobox look "bloated". Is there a given rule on how the infobox should look? Because I've seen ones like Template:Avril Lavigne that contain less content yet uses subsections. Could someone just clear that up? Xij29y6 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:48, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a navigation template, not a discography (and not an infobox). The more sections & subsections it has, the more is starts to look like a discography and the less useful it becomes as a navigation aid. Keeping things simple with 1 row per each type of release provides the easiest navigation aid to readers. If readers want to know which singles are from which albums, there is the Green Day discography article to serve that purpose. The purpose of the navbox is not to inform, but to navigate. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:48, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know. You stated that in the edit history. But do you suppose the other templates I've listed above should be formatted accordingly as well? Xij29y6 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 02:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, yes. However I have never worked with  and don't know why its editors have chosen to format it that way. To answer your original question, no there is no "rule" on how these things should look, but generally we should strive to keep them uncluttered and as conducive to inter-article navigation as possible. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: I've noticed there are quite a few of these songs, and I think that because of the mass of them they deserve their own section. Last of the American Girls (even though I am a supporter that it is a single, Wikipedia doesn't think so), Poprocks and Coke, Macy's Day Parade, Maria, Last Ride In, and Whatsername (and probably some I'm forgetting). Is this a good idea? --24.255.37.229 (talk) 12:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't a discography, this is a navigation template. Its purpose is to link readers to related articles, not to list all of the band's releases. None of these have articles, and thus they do not belong in this navigation template. Green Day discography has a list of videos. Every existing Green Day article is already linked here. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but they could have articles made (I think they qualify as notable songs) and I don't see why there couldn't be another section, there's enough of them. It's not like it'd be a section for one song. You said that it's a navigation template, not a discography, but it wouldn't be a discography to add songs that have music videos, as not every song has a music video. --24.255.37.229 (talk) 01:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're missing the point. This is a navigation template linking to articles on Wikipedia. It is not a list of Green Day's releases. These songs you are talking about do not have articles on Wikipedia, therefore they are not mentioned in this template. As for notability of songs, see WP:NSONGS; there isn't enough reliable secondary source coverage of these songs to merit stand-alone encyclopedia articles. Most of the songs you're describing had articles at one time or another, & they were all either deleted or redirected as being non-notable. If enough source coverage didn't exist to support articles then, it's unlikely that it does now. All of Green Day's notable songs and singles already have articles, and all of those articles are linked from this navbox. Merely having a music video does not guarantee enough secondary source coverage to justify an independent article. --IllaZilla (talk) 02:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section for Music Videos Without Singles 

message: this is The Networks live DVD album it should be included but to where. it should be either put in the related articles or something but it shouldnt be put in by the network since that if for studio albums and the live albums are for green day themselves ??? BlackDragon 20:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not belong in this navbox. This is for Green Day articles, not their side projects. The navbox already links to the main articles on the side projects (Pinhead Gunpowder, The Network, and Foxboro Hot Tubs), from which readers can then find the articles on their releases. Linking every release by each side project is beyond what this navbox is meant to cover. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have locked the template for a week due to edit warring. --Guerillero | My Talk 04:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disease Is Punishment 

message: Studio Albums (1990-2009) is part of green day's compilation album.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bastenereboldila (talk • contribs) 00:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is a box set. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Studio albums (1990-2009) 

message: Due to the edit warring over the past few weeks, I locked the template. To make any changes to it for the duration of the lock please 
#start a section with a level two header,  == Like this ==, where the change to the template and your reasoning is presented.
#Discuss the change over several days.
#If you feel that there is an agreement amoungst the people discussing for the change, post an  with the discussion above it with the agreed upon change.
#An admin will look at the discussion and if they see the agreement the change will be made
I hope that after tw or three of these the full protection will be removed from the template and it can act like a normal template. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template Locked 

message: Please add "Xmas Time of the Year" to the end of the song list. It was released in 2015, and was the first song in over 18 months released by Green Day.http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-green-days-festive-punk-anthem-xmas-time-of-the-year-20151224
2606:A000:F789:4F00:CBE:62D6:F376:F993 (talk) 02:47, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done The song is underneath "Other songs". cyberdog958Talk 09:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2016 

message: Navbox contents moved out of edit request.
71.48.243.4 (talk) 18:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Next time, please consider using the template sandbox to suggest changes. See WP:TESTCASES. Looking into this now separately. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Not done. Edit request included 2 redirects (not helpful in the navbox), and a live EP, which should belong at EP. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:19, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2016 

message: Navbox contents moved out of edit request.
71.48.243.4 (talk) 18:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved navbox contents out. Looking now... — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:21, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Not done. Edit consisted of a new Live EPs section (but mostly redirected), and a Boxsets group that had red-links and an incorrect last link. I think the groups might be more appropriate if the articles are more fleshed out. Otherwise, the navbox does not help in navigation. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:25, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2016 

message: Thank you for another informative website. Where else could I get that kind of info written in such a perfect way? I've a project that I am just now working on, and I have been on the look out for such information. dfeaeefkacfeecce  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.168.122.138 (talk) 07:33, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2016 

message: I would Like To add A link For Macy's Day Parade. A page currently exist for that article
Thank you
Aaron Kirey Aaron Kirey (talk) 19:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done by  Stickee (talk) 02:11, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2018 

message: Touring members: Jason Freese, Jason White, Kevin Preston Tkozinko (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2020 

message: As the band's discography continues to grow, and more articles are created for individual songs, the singles section kind of makes this template a bit bloated. As a proposed alternative I made a Green Day songs template that covers all of their songs that have articles, and any covers that have their own sections in other articles. There could be some that are missing, but this is at least a start that has enough content for its own template, and would help this one by removing songs, and making it feel less bloated. Before adding it to any other pages though, I wanted to make the proposal to see what the rest of the community thinks. Please answer with Yes, No, or Maybe in any responses. Thank you! PopDisaster182 (talk) 16:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think this would be good to have since a lot of other bands with extensive discographies have the same (The Beatles, Blink-182, Queen). PopDisaster182 (talk) 16:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to Move "Singles" and "Other Songs" to Separate Template