Talk:Table Mountain National Park

message: I plan to add sections on history, flora, fauna, etc.; but if someone else feels like doing it, they are, of course, absolutely welcome. :-) - htonl 01:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Planned additions

message: I strongly oppose this proposed merger. The mountain is only a small portion of the park. The park covers 221 km2 and probably 70km from north to south, with the mountain itself at the far northern end of the park.  The park article forms part of a series of articles on SA National Parks. Zaian (talk) 20:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Table Mountain]] 

message: I'm opposed to this merger because it dilutes the importance of the controversy. These are separate issues and should remain separate. Please discuss reasons for wanting the merger here. Michaelbarreto (talk) 10:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, it's more encyclopedic for "criticism" or "controversy" sections to be merged into the relevant part of the article. As separate sections, they encourage POV forks in an article.  Stylistically, what was there before was clearly the result of person A adding a sentence, then person B adding a "However" sentence with an opposing view. It's fine for opposing views to appear in an article, but the end result should read smoothly as if written by a single "neutral" editor, which is what I tried to achieve, and (excuse me for bias here), I think I wrote it pretty well! Clearly you disagree, since you've reverted my effort. So let's attempt a better consensus. Zaian (talk) 10:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's another controversy brewing with accusations of racism against the park. See this link for one report. This should go in the controversy section. Michaelbarreto (talk) 12:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  As per my previous comment, that should go under "hiking trails", rather than "controversy", along these lines: "there are two overnight hiking trails in the park. One of them, the People's Trail, is reserved for "previously disadvantaged" (black) people,[1] although the group Afriforum has challenged this policy as reverse racism[2]..."  Zaian (talk) 08:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that there should be a separate section for these controversies. To try and hide them in other subsections dilutes their importance. Michaelbarreto (talk) 09:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not trying to hide them or dilute them. WP:AGF. I'm trying to improve an encyclopedia article. Zaian (talk) 09:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I think there should be a separate section for this. The claims of racism and disregard for the people who use the park are controversial. The controversies of the park are issues in their own right. Assuming good faith; so I shouldn't suspect you of working for the park and trying to whitewash this page to improve the park's image? Michaelbarreto (talk) 10:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I don't work for the park; I generally whitewash articles for free. Bye now. Zaian (talk) 11:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So you admit to changing the article to improve the image of the park. This distorts the truth and in fact you ARE trying to hide the controversies. I feel disgusted! Now I know why thousands of editors no longer bother to edit wikipedia. All editors are equal, but some are more equal than others. Michaelbarreto (talk) 13:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You failed to recognise my attempt at sarcasm. No, I have not been trying to improve the image of the park. Can we please stop this conversation now? Zaian (talk) 13:30, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of controversy section with flora 

message: This article incorrectly states that the Cape of Good Hope is the southernmost point in the African continent. This is incorrect. Cape Agulhas (about 100 miles Southeast of the Cape of Good Hope) is the southernmost point in Africa.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.173.217 (talk) 14:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say that? In the introduction it says "the Cape of Good Hope, the southwesternmost extremity of Africa", which is true. Further on it says "the southernmost area of the Cape Peninsula, stretching from Cape Point and the Cape of Good Hope in the south", which is also true. Near the end it specifically says "Cape Point and the Cape of Good Hope are very scenic, although they are neither the southernmost tip of Africa nor the meeting-place of the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, as is often believed." - htonl (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southernmost point in Africa 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Table Mountain National Park's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "MPA Forum":
From Pondoland Marine Protected Area: 
From Marine protected areas of South Africa: 
From Goukamma Marine Protected Area: 
From Addo Elephant National Park Marine Protected Area: 
From Dwesa-Cwebe Marine Protected Area: 
From Malgas Island Marine Protected Area: 
From List of brown seaweeds of the Cape Peninsula and False Bay: 
From Tsitsikamma Marine Protected Area: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 06:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Table Mountain National Park]]