Talk:Llywelyn ab Iorwerth

message: It would be nice if someone could add a pronounciation guide for Llywelyn. Ahassan05 12:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Here's a quick list of works that could be used to bring the literature more up-to-date:
*Carpenter, Struggle for Mastery
*Roger Turvey, Llywelyn the Great and The Welsh Princes, 1066-1282
*David Walker, Medieval Wales
*A number of books and articles by Rees Davies, in addition to the one book that's mentioned. Here's a pretty complete bibliography: http://www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl/xSearch.asp?DATABASE=catalo&NP=31090&SRT0=D1&SEQ0=descending
Lampman (talk) 11:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lliterature on Llywelyn that is not Lloyd 

message: If anyone has a source for this individual, please cite it.  Lloyd and Turvey (the former the father of modern Welsh historiography and the latter Llywelyn's most recent biographer) make no mention of her, Pryce doesn't mention her in Acts of Welsh Rulers 1120-1283 (Univ. Wales Press, 2005), and she is not even in the comprehensive late medieval and early modern genealogies listed in Bartrum (Cardiff, 1973).  (Even Tegwared ferch Llywelyn is listed there!)  A note appended to her biographical entry mentioned that she was confused with Elen, but the only refs I've ever found to her are in fiction.  Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Susanna ferch Llywelyn 

message: There is a stone head carving listed under External Links.  The listing says the head is now thought to be a carving of Henry III.  I followed the link to the Gathering the Jewels website.  It still says the carving is thought to be a likeness of Llywelyn the Great.  If the person that added this statement about Henry III has another source for the identification of the individual, they should add where they got that information.  Apparently the Gathering the Jewels website still feels its Llywelyn.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninanta (talk • contribs) 21:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stone head listed under External Links 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Gwenllian is listed under issue. 
However, there seems to be no reference to her anywhere. Have we got the wrong Llywelyn? Is this not Gwenllian of Wales (i.e. Gwenllian ferch Llywelyn, this Llywelyn being Llywelyn ap Gruffudd)? Hogyn Lleol (talk) 18:48, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: She's not listed in the Issue section and Gwenllian of Wales is in the family tree, so I've removed the Gwenllian from the infobox. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gwenllian ferch Llywelyn 

message: *I agree with this proposal. WP:COMMONNAME enjoins us to avoid ambiguity and to remain neutral; in this case, the proposed target does this much more clearly. And since most f te RS that discuss the subject are any length, it is those sources that we should favour.  SN54129 18:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not about the target audience, but the fact that Wikipedia is a work (or aspires to be) of academic scholarship.  SN54129 13:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinions (support/oppose)