Talk:Pierre Gilliard

message: Several questions exist with respect to the dates. Sokolov left Siberia for France aboard a French ship, so Gilliard did not work with him there for three years.  Gilliard lived in Paris probably in the same buiding as Sokolov, and may have been married to his wife at that time, although the date and location of his marriage are often given as 1922 in Switzerland where they clearly lived for the rest of his life. 74.139.195.138 02:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the date of 1919 has been taken from: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/2006pierre/bio.html DrKiernan (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link. 
But eating a lot of sites where specified in 1922 (I can only bring in Russian http://www.hrono.ru/biograf/bio_zh/index.php
http://feb-web.ru/feb/rosarc/ra8/ra8-436-.htm)
Where do these dates come from? They did not site owners come up with ... In this case, you need written authoritative sources. 
I partially translated this article into Russian, but what to do with the year? :)SergeyA. (talk) 20:59, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: The current article is very POV re Pierre Gilliard and Anna Anderson. The vast majority of references used are by Peter Kurth, a lifelong supporter of Anderson and not a true reflection at all of the opinions of Gilliard and his wife about Anderson. Gilliard in fact fought Anderson as an imposter for most of his life. He knew the real Grand Duchess Anastasia extremely well over many years, unlike Peter Kurth who never met the real Grand Duchess. Kurth only met the imposter Anderson who has been genetically proven to have no connection whatsoever with the Romanov family. Finneganw 08:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also referenced are Gilliard's own books and Robert K. Massie's. It is not a biased portrayal. If you would like to add further references, perhaps from Gilliard's False Anastasia or from his book about the family, go ahead. I didn't because this article is about Gilliard and most of the books I found by him were about the Imperial family rather than about Gilliard himself or his own background. I'd love for someone to add info from a biography about Gilliard himself. His personal background and life after World War I needs to be fleshed out. Kurth's and King's books are the only ones I could find that gave any information about what he did after the war, but they included the information about Anna Anderson because that's the subject of their books. Nonetheless, I am comfortable that the article itself is not POV. I have removed your tag. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said above, Kurth's book is a valid, published reference. The claims in the article are sourced. If you would like to add additional references about Gilliard from his books or from a biography of him, it would add greatly to the article, but I do not agree that it is POV as currently written and do not agree to the tag you have placed on the article. I have, therefore, removed it. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 14:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Again, I have removed the tag for the reasons I described above. If you want to add more quotes about Gilliard, by all means do so. It can only improve the article. I can't find any more biographical information about Gilliard's life following the war, but maybe some of your books have such information. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 12:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

text: You also have a clear bias against people who supported Anna Anderson and genuinely believed her story and against Kurth's book, which is ongoing on the Anna Anderson debate page. I used the references I had and made it clear that he wrote books calling Anderson an impostor. Kurth's work is a published reference and it's legitimate to include it in the article. If you have other references that talk about Gilliard's life, great. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 05:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Like I said, I used all the references I had that mentioned them. Wikipedia is the sort of site where people add to articles from their own sources. If you have other sources, go ahead and add to the articles and balance them out, so long as you don't remove already cited material. Wikipedia is intended as a quick general reference to point people in the direction of better and more in-depth material. It's not a site that is taken seriously by scholars and shouldn't be used by students as a main reference. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 13:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pierre Gilliard article

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message: This article is filling out a bit, but it still seems overly focused on the Anastasia myth and the murder of the Romanovs, rather than on Gilliard himself. It states he was awarded the Légion d'honneur, but no info about when or what for. Was it for his services to General Janin during the Russian Civil war?, perhaps some special act of bravery?, or for his academic work?86.56.73.122 (talk) 09:48, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Légion d'honneur