Talk:Kuruba

message: Please give the reasons before marking any info as  TT 12:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: i accidentally removed the merger tag, i am not 100% sure that kuruma gollas and kurubas are the same
Dear Editor,
Yes, they are the same.
There are various types of Gollas and kurubas with distinct occupations and cultural practices.As people of these subsects are migrating into non traditional occupations, their culture is changing resulting in disappearance of the differences in the subsects.
But the differences among the Kurumas and Gollas in Telangana are becoming thin and thinner over a period and they are fusing into one another.in Telangana,Kurma Gollas are same as Gollas. It can be seen from the fact that they have a common occupation of goat herding and sheep rearing, common God(Mallanna or Mallikarjunaswamy), a priest(oggu pujari),oggu katha and same musical instrument, Dol.The homogenous culture, economy and geography is the binding element.The difference among them is insignificant.That is the reason that Kurubas or Kuruvas or Kurumas of Telangana are referred to as Kuruma Gollas by the people of other communities.Several Kuruma families of Medak district carry surname of Golla.
There is a historical perspective to this relationship.This relationship can be established from the fact that Beerappa, the clan God of Kurubas,in almost all Oggu Kathas(ballads) claims that he is son in law of Devagiri King.The historical fact is Ramachandra-1, the ruler of Devagagiri was Yadava king with sway over all over the present day Maharashtra, till he was defeated by the legions of Malik kafar, the commander of Khilji.His son in law Harpal dev and son Prahlad dev were the last Yadava Rulers of Devagiri dynasty.
Regarding the prominent people Kurubas you can add the following:
1.Dr.Satyavant.M.Mallanna, founder of Institute of Preventive Medicine in Hyderabad and Member of Indian Chloroform Commission that visited England to demonstrate that chloroform can be administered as anaesthesia with less risk levels.
2. General Sri Nagesh,(Son of Dr.S.M.Mallana),who studied in London Public School and became second Indian to become chief Army Staff. He was in charge of Kumaon regiment for several years. On retirement from the army, he was Governor of Assam,Mysore and Andhra Pradesh.He was also principal of Administrative Staff College of India at Hyderabad.
Late K.Chandraiah,IAS, in his book on Hyderabad paid glorious tributes SM Mallanna and Gen Sri Nagesh.
3. Kollur Mallappa, first President, Hyderabad Pradesh Congress Committee, prior to the merger of Hyderabad state into Andhra Pradesh.He was Memeber of Parliament from Raichur, now in Karnataka for several terms. He was mentor of late Prime Minister P.V.Narasimha Rao,several leaders like Virendra Patil, Shivaraj Patil,S.B.Chavan and G.venkataswamy etc.He founded Kuruma Sangham and Kuruma hostel in Hyderabad.
4.Bandaru Dattatraya, 3 terms MP from Secunderabad Lok Sabha constituency and former Union Minister.
Though there are many worth mentioning,these additions can make the site complete.
Yours warmly
Pasham Yadagiri,
Hyderabad.
3.
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thread_title:  Merger 

message: If the stuff listed is really alternate names, they shouldn't have separate articles.  The information at the other names should be merged over here, and the article should be turned into a redirect.  NickelShoe 00:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Names and Sub-Castes

message: Hi! For the MEA article list, I have placed a redirect from Kurumba to Kuruba. Further, there are the respective tags for EB. Please retain the details at the time of merger. --<FONT style="color:#5A3696">ΜιĿ</FONT>ː<FONT style="color:#008000">talk</FONT> 15:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What on earth does "retain the details at the time of merger" mean? NickelShoe 16:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) Kurumba redirects here, NOT Kuruma 2) Retain ,  and EB section during/after merger edits. --<FONT style="color:#5A3696">ΜιĿ</FONT>ː<FONT style="color:#008000">talk</FONT> 16:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from [[Kurumba]] and [[Encyclopædia Britannica|EB]] 1911 

message: I have painstakingly rstores this particle to its original for after being repeatedly vandalised by people. I am going to add the references to my additions soon. I request people editing this page to give reasons before doing it, thanking you (Ganesha1 (talk) 22:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: back to original form

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurumbar_(tribe)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.181.191 (talk) 22:51, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps Kuruba suresh and Sitush, who have both recently edited the page, might like to comment on this long-standing merge proposal. I'm unsure about the merge given the significant differences in the content and the minimal referencing. Klbrain (talk) 05:47, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly Kuruba are also known as Kurumbar but whether they are the same as the Gounders is anyone's guess. Some sort of dabhat might be better for now. - Sitush (talk) 05:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a plan. Klbrain (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should This be Merged? 

message: Please read the information given at User:Sitush/Common#Castelists before expanding the list of notable people in this article. I've just reverted a massive expansion because a random sample showed every single one of those looked at was contrary to those notes, which have community consensus behind them. - Sitush (talk) 01:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people 

message: Amidst claims of political corruption, there are numerous news sources suggesting that Scheduled Tribe status might be granted - eg: , , , . Has anything definite happened now? This article needs a lot of work. - Sitush (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Scheduled Tribe

message: There has been a edit warring going on here without reaching consensus on talk page, I would request to stop this. The person is reverting the changes from IP address. Anthony gomes 92 (talk) 02:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: If there is indeed an edit war occurring on this page I believe this would be better reported to WP:RFPP/WP:AVI if it's straight vandalism or WP:ANI if there are regular editors involved and other dispute resolution has been exhausted. But the editors monitoring the edit requests will generally be unable to be help. Cheers! —Sirdog9002 (talk) 03:35, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection request

message: The below line should be edited as kurumba tribe is different from kuruba caste 
This article is about the pastoral community in Karnataka. For the similarly-named tribe of the Nilgiris, see Kurumba (tribe) Hone2790 (talk) 15:37, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2022 

message: Adarsh446 (talk) 15:39, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 3mi1y (talk) 07:58, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2022 

message: I have searched various sources and studied lots of backgrounds to add correct information and citations. If anyone tries to vandalise or tries to remove any contents without giving adequate and satisfactory reasons in the talk page or adding unnecessary material, would lose their editing capabilities and arbitrators of Wikipedia would be called to remove their account's capabilities and would be tagged as unworthy.
 
Maintain dignity. This is not anybody's casteist political magazines. This is Wikipedia.
Any one can cite any reference be it old or new. All are valid unless they are spurious in content. In this way I have gathered various amounts of information to make necessary changes. The inscriptional studies are very very important even though they are old. The Much older the inscriptions and histories, more valid it is in order to trace the history. So histories are very very important.
And one should understand differences between between SC and ST. Both are different. The Government of India vests interests in protecting the downtrodden castes and hence they are scheduled Castes. 
And Kurubas are not backward castewise. They are backward economically and educationally when COMPARED with the ECONOMICALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY A BIT HIGHER to the Kurubas (Other OBCs above Kurubas) and MUCH HIGHER than the Kurubas (Those in General Merit). 
But, this has nothing to do with the history of the Kurubas. The history and the future of the Kurubas will always remain great.
The status of castes in any particular region many times depends on population and beliefs. A backward class considered high somewhere may be seen low elsewhere. Includes factors such as Population, Economy and Personal interests of people.
Scheduled Tribe refers to the forest people who have had nothing to do with the castes. They would have had minimal touch or lost touch with the society for many centuries and got separated either to the failures in their wars in order to hide from enemies or they led their life in forests. Forests are the source of creation on the planet. Before civilizations existed forests existed and humans were tribal irrespective of whatever their religion or caste status. As a result, Tribals are valued in every country and they are usually rich with respect to medicinal plants in the forests and they help in Anthropology. Therefore they are 'Scheduled' (reserved) to be protected by the Government.
All people residing in Villages and cities have changed themselves so much from their tribal nature and have forgotten histories for many thousands of years. So, it is advantageous to study how people develop from forests. Hence they are important assests as far as researches are concerned. Be Humans! And remember we are all Humans first!
This is not the platform to show who is great. Wikipedia exists in order to document actual facts. Not for quarrels.
And All Kurubas in Karnataka are not obtaining ST reservations. Currently the reservation is for Kadu Kurubas, Betta Kurubas, Jenu Kurubas who have shown themselves to be tribal. Of course, Both Village and City Kurubas are distinct both socially and ethnically from Kadu Kurubas, And also the word kuruba may mean both Shepherds(kuri in kannada= Sheep) and Hill-people (kuri also means hills in Southern karnataka and few states) according to regions, further studies need to be done.
In other castes, such as Halakki Vokkaligas are demanding for ST status. Konda Reddys are STs
Forward castes refers to the increase in the economic and social status of castes. All castes which were considered backward would be examined routinely to analyze their situations of their backward status. If any community works sufficiently and able to go forward from their backward nature, they are considered as Forward Castes. This definition does not apply to the people who were classified as General Merits already immediately after Independence of India.
And with the existing situation the forward castes which are listed in Central list have remained backward in State List and claiming reservations. And even the forwarded castes that come under general category may sooner or later would get reservations as has been ordered by the Supreme Court. 
Taking all these into consideration, you should consider your comments. If unnecessary edits are noticed then we will urge wikipedia to take strict action against those account. CSCM01 (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before you make Edits and Add comments, Note these:  

message: need to edit kurumba as kurumans . As the kurumans are the tribes and give the website link to kurumans Sanjaygounder (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 19:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2024