Talk:Brown University/Archive 1

message: I think it's a bit too much that half of the history section,
for a university that is 240+ years old, is devoted to this subject.
With apologies to older Brunonians (I'm B'97) I just don't think it
is as important as it may have seemed in the 60's. Though Brown has fewer formalized 
requirements than other schools, I think for most students the effect is not much
different (though one's GPA is a little clunkier w/o the +/-'s) as they are well
aware of what will be expected of them in graduate school or the professional world. Pres.
Simmons' priorities seem to be to improve brown's finances and develop top notch research centers,
not to promote some idea of "self determination". Although the University still pays lip
service to it I think the New Curriculum is fading in importance. Perhaps someone can modify
the history section?
Kurtosis 23:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is the New Curriculum overrated? 

message: What should I ask in my Brown Interview? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EKN (talk • contribs) 02:46, 16 February 2006  (UTC)
:This isn't exactly the place to ask; e-mail me (via my userpage) if you like. --Mgreenbe 01:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brown interviews 

message: POV quibble: The list of notable Brown alumni is broken into categories. "Louis Redding - first African American to practice law in Delaware" is categorized in "Government / Law / Public Policy " But "George Lincoln Rockwell (1942) - founder, American Nazi Party" is relegated to "Other". Surely founding a political party, even an abhorrent one, is a form of politics or public policy. Or is the category written narrowly (including lawyers and political figures, but under the name "Public Policy" rather than the ore obvious "Politics", in order expressly to exclude Rockwell while including more palatable politicians? It's perhaps a minor point, but we must be especially careful to avoid POV that reinforces our majority societal views.-- orthogonal 21:35, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Is the Nazi Party "Political"?

message: I notice we're getting a notice about this article being too long. I also notice that the vast majority of that length is in the form of lengthy lists. Perhaps one or more of these lists could become its own article? Any thoughts on which one(s) should be split off -- List of Brown Alumni, List of People Associated with Brown,  etc...? Tom 13:52, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Following what's been done on the Harvard University page, I went ahead and moved the list of Brown faculty and alums to Brown University people. --Tom 22:03, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Breaking Article up

message: Should a section on high-profile controversies be included? For example, the Adam Lack case and the Horowitz/BDH thing (which I added to Brown Daily Herald). I feel like these are relevant, but they may need to be offset by things the college has received more positive attention for. – flamurai (t) 22:21, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
:Feel free to post up any stories, controversial or otherwise, that you deem important and relevant to this article. There is no need to only include positive things. –MementoVivere 19:27, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes! And if you write about adam lack put in this great quote from the John Stossel intervew- "Vomit on the floor doesn't mean a thing. Coulda been there 5 minutes, coulda been there 5 hours" (explaining why he didn't think the girl was drunk) Kurtosis 22:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scandals/controversies

message: Watchers of this page should see this poll about whether this page should contain a phrase like "widely considered one of the most prestigious universities in the world". Nohat 15:46, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "prestige" comment 

message: No mention of the local WBRU (95.5) radio station?
: added on 07:32, 13 August 2005.  --JButler 11:18, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  WBRU 

message: Contributers to this page may be interested in this article, which has been proposed for deletion:
Midwestern Ivy League
Please review the article and provide your input on that article's Votes for Deletion page. - 18.95.1.22 04:02, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Midwestern Ivy League" ? 

message: Contributors to this page may be interested in this article, which has been proposed for deletion:
Midwestern Ivy League
Please review the article and provide your input on that article's Votes for Deletion page. - 18.95.1.22 04:03, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Midwestern Ivy League" ? 

message: I've been told that Frank's recent $100 million donatation to Brown is not only the largest gift Brown has ever received, but also the largest single donation ever given by an individual to a university.  I'm not sure this is true so I am hesitant to post it, but it might be worth checking into.  00:20, October 21, 2005
*If this was the case, it is no longer true anyway, after the recent donation to Yale's school of music. Mgcsinc 00:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A significant number of donations in the 1990s were at least $100 million.  I wasn't able to find a list of large donations to universities, but apparently The Chronicle of Higher Education has one for subscribers. btm talk 02:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sidney Frank Donation 

message: Shouldn't Deo be spelled with a capital D in the motto?--Tamas 18:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: I have a suggestion for inserting three sentences (Re: charter principle in reference to professional schools) into the first paragraph of "The founding of Brown" section that would appear just before the last sentence in the existing paragraph. Here is the modified paragraph:
In 1763, James Manning, a Baptist minister, was sent to Rhode Island by the Philadelphia Association of Baptist Churches in order to found a college. At the same time, local Congregationalists, led by James Stiles, were working toward a similar end. On March 3, 1764, a charter was filed to create Rhode Island College in Warren, Rhode Island, reflecting the work of both Stiles and Manning. The charter had more than 60 signatories, including John and Nicholas Brown of the Brown family, who would give the College its present day name. The college's mission, the charter stated, was to prepare students "for discharging the Offices of Life" by providing instruction "in the Vernacular Learned Languages, and in the liberal Arts and Sciences." The charter's language has long been interpreted by the university as discouraging the founding of a business school or law school. Brown continues to be one of only two Ivy League universities with neither a business school nor law school. James Manning, the minister sent to Rhode Island by the Baptists, was sworn in as the College's first president in 1765. GO WHARTON 18:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe something about what's in the charter causing that interpretation? --Mgreenbe 18:46, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I'll get back to you with an updated suggestion. GO WHARTON 20:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the suggested paragraph update including citation, although I don't know how to do wiki citations. The references in the Brown wiki article all seem to point to other websites rather than to the page bottom. Any comments? GO WHARTON 08:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome, looks great!  I fixed a typo; everything else seems fine.  I'm definitely cool with it going in. --Mgreenbe 09:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the article now and so far, no complaints. Then again, it's only been about 30 seconds since I pushed the "Save page" button. Chalk that up to my new PB - Paranoia Brunonia. GO WHARTON 18:05, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The founding of Brown

message: Hmmm...
http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/gettoknowus/ourhistory.html says:
:Brown was the Baptist answer to Congregationalist Yale and Harvard; Presbyterian Princeton; and Episcopalian Penn and Columbia. At the time, it was the only one that welcomed students of all religious persuasions (following the example of Roger Williams, who founded Rhode Island in 1636 on the same principle).
Penn, however, says 
:Unlike other American Colonial colleges, the new school would not focus on education for the clergy.
and refers to it as "nonsectarian":
:Penn was founded on unique grounds in the history of education. In Philadelphia Benjamin Franklin sought not only to create a local institution of higher learning, but also to provide an education that did not fit the models already established in New England and Virginia. In Europe and the colonies up to that time, such schools had emphasized the training of new clergymen. The goal of Franklin's nonsectarian, practical plan would be the education of a business and governing class rather than of clergymen.
These don't actually contradict each other, but I'm beginning to think I'd like to see some better sources for the early admissions policies of these two schools. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Brown was the first college in the nation to accept students of all religious affiliations." 

message: I've never taken any Latin, but isn't it supposed to be Universitas Brunensis, not Universitatis Brunensis? A Google search yields different news releases (mostly from the text of honorary degrees) for each of the spellings, but apparently Universitatis Brunensis is also a school in Brno, Czech Republic. I might be completely off-base, but if somebody with any background in Latin could clarify it'd be much appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Riphamilton (talk • contribs) 04:21, 23 February 2006  (UTC)
:Universitatis is the genitive case, and it makes sense that it's more common (some department of Brown University).  I've changed it to nominative case.  --Mgreenbe 12:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched for a view of a diploma online or some other type of Latin confirmation.  The only useful thing I found was this link.  Apparently it should be "Universitas Brunoniensis."  I'm changing it to that now.  I'll try going by the registrar sometime to confirm whether or not this is true.  Sdej 06:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found another listing of honorary degrees which states "Universitas Brunensis" , which is confirmed by the Latin wikipedia, although I am no scholar of Latin.  Checking with the registrar should help. InTheFlesh? 06:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So when I went to the registrar's office a couple of days ago, I was told that all they had was a translated version of the diploma.  No one could seem to get ahold of a standard Brown diploma in Latin.  Go figure. Sdej 07:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: O tempora, O Moses. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

text: My diploma reads "Universitas Brunensis". DMacks 02:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin translation accuracy 

message: An unregistered IP added a sentence in the 'Academics' portion saying "Brown ranked 15th in the nation in 2006."  Is this based on USN&WR?  If so (and I think it is), is this a violation of copyright?  I know that they especially tend to keep a tight lid on their rankings and analysis without subscription or purchase of their magazine.  I have removed the uncited factoid.  Thoughts? Sdej 04:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranking? 

message: The picture allegedly depicting University Hall is incorrectly labeled. The building to the left is in fact Hope (Hope!). The building to the right (which you can barely see) is University Hall. Not knowing the intentions of the editor that added this picture to the page (whether it was to add a picture of University Hall, or to simply include a picture of a campus building), I thought it best to bring this to the attention of others rather than modify the label. -seliopou 00:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  That is not University Hall 

message: I removed the following from the article's external links section:
* Mocha Schedule Planner
This has been added at least twice, but I don't see why it is relevant unless the reader is a Brown student.  Also, the link has been added by anonymous IPs, not people who have been logged in to Wikipedia user accounts.  If you feel that this link is important to include in the article, please explain why here.  Otherwise, I'll remove it if it's added again. NBS525 21:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this link seems inappropriate at this time. According to its own description, "Mocha is a new way to browse Brown's courses online" and there is no mention of making the program available for other campuses (or the code available in general), so is clearly not useful for the general public. OTOH, the anon poster is within the brown.edu IP space. DMacks 22:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I disagree. Although it may sound silly, Brown students are not necessarily the only people that are interested in Brown course offerings; nor would I say that this population small enough to be of little to no importance. In fact if you think about the people that are most likely to view the Brown wikipedia page that do not go to Brown, its relevance and usefulness seems to increase dramatically. Be it BOCA or Mocha, I think it would be a good idea to link to Brown's course offerings. Of course Mocha would be preferable, since BOCA is a human rights violation. -seliopou 00:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objection to a BOCA link--it may be a travesty of a website, but it is the official word...primary source relevant to the topic at hand. Conversely, Mocha is a secondary source that is synced with BOCA on occasion, and self-described as "not supported or endorsed by Brown University in any way, and it is extremely unofficial." DMacks 00:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with DMacks here -- BOCA seems like it would be more appropriate to include because it is, after all, the official online listing of Brown courses, travesty of a website though it may be.  NBS525 18:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mocha link 

message: These have been marked as needing sources for at least a month, and nobody seems interested in providing them, so, per the verifiability policy I'm moving them here until someone sources them. Actually the rest of the "traditions" section is in almost equally bad shape. Dpbsmith (talk) 00:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing unsourced "miscellaneous traditions" 

message: There used to be a page for SexPowerGod, but it got deleted. Now the info from that page has been added here in the Brown page itself, but I think it's an old version of what had been there (I remember discussing changes to be made that appear here in their original form). Any way to dig up the last version of it and its talk prior to deletion? I have a feeling there used to be a Starf*ck page too, but don't know a good way to search the deleted-pages namespace. DMacks 05:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SexPowerGod 

message: Dartmouth's claim of having the sole Western Egyptology department is incorrect. Oxford University has a long history of Egyptology, and has had an undergraduate degree program in the subject for many years.
This edit is a little baffling to me. First, the school in question is Brown not Dartmouth and the claim is that Brown has a department of Egyptology, not merely a degree. This is not to say that the field is not studied elsewhere -- UChicago, UPenn and Yale spring to mind immediately. However, none of these schools have a "Department of Egyptology," as such. At these universities, the field is more broadly considered as Near Eastern Civilization or such. However, Brown seems to be in the process of expanding the department, as evidenced by the change of name from "Egyptology" to "Egyptology and Western Asian Studies."82.226.175.224 12:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing claim to sole Egyptology department in Western Civilization

message: The following items have been tagged with requests for references for about a week; none have been provided. I am removing them from the article and parking them them here. They can be reinserted in the article when they are accompanied with verifiable source citations, per Wikipedia's verifiability policy and citation and reliable sources guidelines.
The verifiability policy is linked at the bottom of every edit box, and can be summarized: 1. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources. 2. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor. 3. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it. Dpbsmith (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What kind of source would work for this?  This definitely occurs and the description above is completely accurate. -Brown '10 138.16.59.166 (talk) 07:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

text: The a capella groups still sing under Wayland Arch, in addition to several other places around campus, such as the Mochamp arch. NBS525 23:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Seconded. This definitely still occurs. "Arch sings" as they are called, are extremely common for a cappella groups. (occurring multiple times per year). - Brown '10 138.16.59.166 (talk) 06:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing unsourced material: Naked donut run, Naked party. 

message: At the end of each semester, usually on the night before the first day of exams (the last day of "reading period"), naked students walk (despite the word "run" in the name) through the Rockefeller and Sciences Libraries and hand out donuts to their peers.  Neither the organization nor the precise timing of the "run" are publicly known, with the recruitment of participants usually occurring within 24 hours of the actual run.  The role of head organizer is secretly passed from an upperclassman to an underclassman every year or two, and has usually been associated with one of the campus's co-ed fraternities or residential co-ops.  If a naked donut run fails to occur during a semester, a new organizer will often take up the tradition the following term.
:What kind of source would work for this?  This definitely occurs and the description above is completely accurate. -Brown '10 138.16.59.166 (talk) 07:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naked donut run 

message: Back in my day, the a capella groups often sang under Wayland Arch; is this still done?  The strong tradition of a capella appears not to be noted anywhere in the article.
stylobix 19 May 2006
:The a capella groups still sing under Wayland Arch, in addition to several other places around campus, such as the Mochamp arch. NBS525 23:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. This definitely still occurs. "Arch sings" as they are called, are extremely common for a cappella groups. (occurring multiple times per year). - Brown '10 138.16.59.166 (talk) 06:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A capella 

message: I edited the line that "Brown has the only undergraduate History of Mathematics Department in the world." The last faculty member who had an interest in teaching undergraduates retired in 1986. The last faculty member died in November 2005. Currently, there is one graduate student finishing a dissertation and no courses are offered.
:I don't think it ever offered undergrad. degrees, did it? JJL 00:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it never did. Although it is a bit unencyclopedic, it might be interesting to preserve the history of the dept.  ----micahross —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.226.175.224 (talk) 12:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Your statement, "The last faculty member who had an interest in teaching undergraduates retired in 1986," is incorrect.  As of only a few years ago courses were still offered to undergraduates in the department.  Here are reviews of some of those courses, for example:   NBS525 13:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Mathematics. 

message: Consider adding a discussion about this part of Brown's history.
The basic points of this section would be:
1. From the late 19th century until after 1960, Brown was a regional college drawing students mostly from Massachusetts and Rhode Island.  Nationally it was known as a less rigorous elite college, where less ambitious, more sociable sons could study. (I am trying to find the source for this - I read it in a history book while an undergrad at Brown, I think example students of this ilk were son of IBM founder, Tom Watson Jr., (1937) and son of the Standard Oil founder, John D. Rockefeller, Jr. (1897).)
2.In the early to mid 1970s, Brown had to draw down its endowment to meet operating expenses and was considered to be on the verge of bankruptcy.
3. The combination of Howard Swearer's leadership (he was president from 1977 to 1988) and the appeal of the New Cirriculum in attracting top applicants led Brown to be labelled the "hot Ivy".  It had one of the lowest acceptance rates and in 1988 was ranked #4 in the U.S. News and World Report rankings (they put more emphasis on selectivity and reputation and less on financial resources).
4. From the mid 1980s, Brown differentiated itself through its reputation for drawing children of celebrities and left wing politicians, and as a hip and trendy place.  The 1998 Vanity Fair article on this subject captured the dominant campus culture from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s.
(An aside: as the student body continues to become truly national and less New York-centric, and more conventional and career oriented, question whether Brown will continue to differentiate itself from financially stronger peers).
Cbmccarthy 14:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FROM ARMPIT OF THE IVIES TO HOT IVY 

message: I am confused to the "long standing consensus" of the diminished activities of Pacifica House at Brown.  One quick example I found of recent Pacifica work is noted on the CCC (College Curriculum Council) Report on Grading, http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Dean_of_the_College/documents/Grading_Report.pdf  Would someone please enlighten me before I revert the edit to include the portion in the 'secret society' section to include Pacifica as an active society?
:Here's the last time we discussed it. "Present-day existence of some organization related to Brown calling itself 'Pacifica House'" isn't the issue. The specific problems to my mind is (still) lack of WP:V WP:RS for it being a "secret society", it being related to the secret societies from the days of yore, vs being anything WP:NOTABLE beyond any other student club giving itself that name. Note that the CCC report does not speak to the concept of a "secret society". The only ref to Pacifica House in it is to that organization's own publication (which again does not support the secret-society connection nor notability of the present-day group) and as a self-pub does not really qualify as a good source for info about the group itself. DMacks 06:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pacifica House the remaining active secret society on campus? 

message: The Trivia section says that Andrea Sachs from "The Devil Wears Prada" graduated from Brown.  If I remember correctly, they went to Northwestern.  The Northwestern page says this also...  Can someone verify this for me?  --Sbrools (talk . contribs) 04:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I deleted the entire section.  It consisted of three "scandalous" parties and a naked run.  These issues were carrying far too much weight in the article, and not painting an accurate, dispassionate picture about Brown.  The issue of scandalous parties should maybe be condense to one small section, but I don't think it belongs in the article at all.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.81.249.92 (talk) 11:28, 16 February 2007
:The modern traditions have had a long and troubled history on this page, but they have always endured. You're more than welcome start another discussion about whether they should be removed, but until then, it should stay. --seliopou 21:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Traditions Section 

message: I've removed its link twice now. Anyone at all think it's actually notable, please speak up... DMacks 19:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''24'' spoof video 

message: "Joe will never get into this college" ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.155.28.89 (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2007
:It was childish vandalism. It's gone now. -- Rob C (Alarob) 12:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who's Joe?

message: Can be tagged or removed by an editor. I removed the following "Brown was also one of the first institutions to emphasize computer science as well as media studies, with its department of Modern Culture and Media, where students study film production, film criticism, and critical theory." since you probably won't find a source for this. If you do, please post it here and I will add this material back. Thanks! --Tom 20:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced material

message: Did someoen remove the rankings section on here? Also does anyone know about Brown's international reputation? Is it even that well known outside the US? Should this topic be included in the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.245.75.17 (talk) 19:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rankings and International Recognition

message: I created the Brown University Template. Please feel free to add this to all the different pages that deal with Brown and add new content to the template as you see fit.
Furthermore, I would really like to see Brown's presence on wikipedia increased. There is a lot of random information about the school that is still missing or scattered in unorganized pages. I think we are missing a lot of pages that the other ivy league schools have. Maybe we should start thinking about breaking up the main page into separate sub-pages?
Pages that I would like to see created or worked on:
* College and Graduate School (Brown University)
* University Hall (Brown University)
* Board of Trustees of Brown University
* A separate page that discusses Brown's athletic programs
* Information about notable buildings?
Apavlo 14:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brown Template & Wikipedia Presence

message: I just moved an  tag from the bottom of the History section to the New Curriculum section. Per edit number 91472679 by GearedBull, this tag belonged on the New Curriculum section (see ). - AWeenieMan (talk) 02:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some good refs are probably the Encyclopedia Brunoniana entry, the original GISP paper, and any of many BDH articles covering "how things are now" or "how to take advantage of your opportunities" or "they might change things". Thanks to short institutional memory among undergrads, there are many such articles over the years, such as this recent and detailed one. Can we slap those loose as "References" for the whole section or do we need to add specific ones as footnotes supporting specific statements? DMacks (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I  tagged where I think we need citations. Some of them will probably be duplicates. I also uploaded a photo of Robinson Hall I took this summer (apparently there was one there before without copyright information). - AWeenieMan (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text:  We are down to 2  tags, both of which I believe can be satisfied with the original GISP paper, however without seeing the text myself I cannot be sure. It also might be worth citing the line about the curriculum itself being different then the GISP with the BDH article you linked. - AWeenieMan (talk) 04:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced Tag on New Curriculum 

message: I am curious: If Harvard, Yale, and Columbia Universities, among others, retain at least nominal subunits known as Harvard College, etc., why doesn't Brown?  Is the undergraduate college within Brown U. also known as "Brown University" in somewhat the same way as the whole university surrounding Dartmouth College is also known as "Dartmouth College"? Greener08 (talk) 12:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Within the university, the undergraduate programs are within an administrative unit called "The College", separate from the Graduate School and the Medical School. There is a separate dean in charge of each. DMacks (talk) 13:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  College v. University 

message: I've given the Profile section a cursory edit for really poor style, but it needs much more help.
:--NoNonsenseHumJock (talk) 02:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile Section Badly Written 

message: I've done some work at Curriculum, including making sections for the different types of curricula at US colleges. Any work that people can do to expand the section on open curricula there would be much appreciated.
:: - Mgcsinc (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion of open curricula at [[Curriculum]] 

message: Hello Brown University contributors. I just wanted to let you all know that Brown University has been renominated for next month's WikiProject Universities Collaboration of the Month. If you'd like to take advantage of this opportunity, be sure to vote for the university. While you're there, consider helping improve one of our current Collaborations of the Month.
Happy editing! -Mabeenot (talk) 19:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Universities COTM Nomination 

message: I wanted to commend the editors of this article for maintaining an informative and neutral lead devoid of ranking-cruft and other un-encyclopedic and non-notable superlatives. Truly rare to witness on Wikipedia university articles without significant whining and arm twisting. Madcoverboy (talk) 04:33, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead commendation

message: Removing this content from the article since Wikipedia is not a directory. Storing it here for now. Madcoverboy (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founders and proclamations 

message: It looks like there is a minor edit skirmish over the inclusion of material about slavery and the history of Brown University.  I personally like the material and think it should be included as it's interesting and well-sourced.  However, I have some sympathy with the assertion that it's just too long and is given undue weight (my sympathy is much more with the former than the latter given that this topic has historically been given undue weight since it is shameful and a dark stain on the institution's past).  Why not compromise by giving a brief overview here and then linking to a new article with more detail?  ElKevbo (talk) 06:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I support this proposal. -Mabeenot (talk) 06:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

text: I also support this proposal. I haven't done any looking, but there may be opportunities to merge this with information about similar studies done at other schools. - Mgcsinc (talk) 07:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Slavery section

message: This may be a weird question for an Ivy League school but has the campus ever had buildings damaged or classes canceled due to hurricanes?
Like the New England Hurricane of 1938?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.196.0.50 (talk) 07:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weather risk 

message: The Student organizations section of this article has been steadily expanding lately. If there are no objections, I'm going to go ahead and move it to its own article. - Mgcsinc (talk) 17:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving 'Student organizations' 

message: Why do I not find anything about the Joukowsky Institute for Archeology, which seems to be a not very unimportant part of Brown University? cf. http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Joukowsky_Institute/ --Dlugacz (talk) 19:51, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a separate wikipedia page on it: Joukowsky Institute for Archaeology and the Ancient World. Not sure why no one has integrated info about it here, but feel free to -- anyone can edit wikipedia! -- Mgcsinc (talk) 22:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joukowsky Institute 

message: According to their website, Brown University has access to Europa World Plus. Is there anyone here who wants to download some entries for me?--Antemister (talk) 19:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: I've removed the reference to "Royal Governors" and "King George III" in addressing Rhode Island colonial governors Stephen Hopkins and Samuel Ward.  Like all other governors of the Rhode Island colony, these men were not royal appointees, as were found in many of the other colonies.  Instead, they were elected by the freemen of the colony, as outlined in Rhode Island's Royal Charter of 1663.  The only time in its history when Rhode Island had a royal appointee as governor was when the colony was thrown into the Dominion of New England with all the other northeastern colonies, and Sir Edmund Andros was appointed governor over all the associated colonies.Sarnold17 (talk) 00:41, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of RI colonial governors 

message: When I look at this page: CV Starr Program in Business, Entrepreneurship and Organizations I see an undergraduate business concentration (albeit not AACSB-accredited) that I will thereafter refer to as Brown Starr. But is Brown Starr an actual business program? If so, Brown is not "one of only two schools in the Ivy League with neither a business school nor a law school" anymore since it would technically have a business school, if undergraduate-only.--Xiaoshan Math (talk) 03:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to just be a concentration that is "sponsored by the departments of Economics and Sociology and the School of Engineering."  That seems to be pretty far away from a dedicated business school. ElKevbo (talk) 03:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brown Starr - business school? 

message: It is interesting that Brown claims Nobel Laureate Onsager as one of their own.  He was denied tenure and sent away.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.66.130 (talk) 13:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think it is reasonable to suppose that Brown makes any such claim based on his inclusion in this wikipedia article which is not maintained by Brown university. Someone clearly included Onsager based on the fact that he was at a given point a faculty member there. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 19:48, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Onsager 

message: User:RIConLaw1243 added several paragraphs on Brown's political culture. Needless to say, phrases like "notoriously" and "infamously" liberal are non-neutral and the examples given lack historical context for inclusion. I'd welcome any thoughts on how to go about crafting a few sentence or paragraph providing a sober overview on the current political climate, major historical events, and influential people, not creating a laundry list of drummed-up fauxtroversies. Madcoverboy (talk) 01:08, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political culture 

message: Hellyeahdog is edit warring to insert the following statement into this article: "Brown is considered not to be up to par with the other Ivy League institutions."  Four other editors, including me, have reverted this edit.  I can't speak for the other editors but I object to inserting this text as it's only been included with one source (U.S. News & World Report) that doesn't explicitly support the statement.  In any case, edit warring is unacceptable and will likely lead to a block if it continues. ElKevbo (talk) 01:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The source provided also does not seem to support the claim implicitly.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 01:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Too late, I saw the behavior and gave a 24h/EW block before I saw the talkpage here. He'd already received 2 warnings. DMacks (talk) 03:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring to note that Brown is "not...up to par with the other Ivy League institutions" 

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message: At its foundation, Brown was the first college in the United States to accept students regardless of their religious affiliation,Bronson (1914), p. 30. reflecting the religious liberty that Roger Williams established in what would become the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.
The italicized text is what I put in, that got taken right out for lacking a source.
I've got better things to do with my time than look for references saying there was religious freedom in colonial Rhode Island. Anyway, that’s how I think the article could be improved. deisenbe (talk) 19:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brown's religious freedom reflects that of Rhode Island 

message: The current representation of initial student acceptance at Brown's founding is misleading, as the referenced source on p. 30 Bronson (1914), p. 30. does not delve into what is meant by Religious Denominations on that page. The details are dealt with more fully in the second chapter of that source Bronson (1914), pp. 98-99. where Jews are shown to be exceptionally accepted, but definitely not deists or atheists. The link to Religious identity for "religious affiliation" is inaccurate and should instead link to Religious denomination. My suggestion:
At its foundation, Brown was the first college in the U.S. to accept students of any religious denomination, barring atheists and deists.Bronson (1914), pp. 30, 98-99.
2600:6C51:7E80:46D4:1C45:A39F:A09E:82AF (talk) 07:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brown's student acceptance regardless of religious denomination, not affiliation 

message: The undergraduate acceptance rate has been in the lede for less than two weeks, contrary to ElKevbo's assertion that it has "been in the article for several years." [1] Even if this outdated stat belongs in the article, it does not belong in the lede. Dosafrog (talk) 16:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Some version of this sentence has been in the lede since at least December of 2012 and this specific phrasing has been in the lede since at least February of 2018. Since this is long-standing and appears to have been uncontroversial for many years, it's incumbent on you to establish that there is a new consensus to remove the information. ElKevbo (talk) 16:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Moreover, your claim that the information has "been in the lede for less than two weeks" is especially misleading because the edit you're citing as having "added" the information was a reversion of an edit that you yourself made solely to remove this sentence. ElKevbo (talk) 16:43, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if it happens to have longstanding existence, I'm still confused as to how its inclusion is helpful in any way. Dosafrog (talk) 17:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The lede is intended to be a summary of what is in the body of the article. There is an entire section of the article dedicated to admissions so it's not unreasonable to have one sentence in the lede summarizing what is in that section. ElKevbo (talk) 17:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I was referring to the exact percentage figure for just undergraduates. It's inapposite for this page; it belongs in College of Brown University instead.Dosafrog (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undergraduate Acceptance Rate in Lede 

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message: In my opinion, the 2nd 'Notes' tab should be removed as it is unnecessary to have 2 'Notes' tabs in my opinion. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2nd 'Notes' tab should be removed