Talk:Yvon Chouinard

message: I would like to see a paragraph on the demise of Chouinard Equipment and how it became Black Diamond; as well as a brief mention of how Patagonia subsequently came to be.  Does anyone have any information?
ANS: I have plenty of information, but I am not clear how relevant that is to Yvon's article.  Patagonia preceded the demise of CE by at least 10 years, as I think is clearly stated in the article. Ratagonia 03:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Demise of CEqLtd

message: The statement:
"In 1980, climbing had become extremely popular, and the increase in novice climbers were harming the mountains. Chouinard decided to sell his equipment company and focus on his apparel company. (with the source: http://www.fashion-planet.com/sept98/features/earth_watchers/patagonia.html ) 
while sourced, is factually untrue.  Yvon became dis-interested in Chouinard and did not like the direction that climbing was going, but did not sell the company at that time.  By 1989 was willing to bankrupt in the face of liability law suits.
My source?  Uh, personal communications with people that were there, nothing citable. Ratagonia 00:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Watch Your Sources

message: The company name was Chouinard Equipment, Ltd.  at least in the 1989 ski catalog.  "Equipment for Alpinists" was the company slogan.  Ratagonia 00:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Company Name

message: I added a citation for Climbing Ice.  I chose the later, Random House publication because the first publication by sierra club books does not include an ISBN.  Ratagonia 20:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Book and Article Citations

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The New Yorker published a profile, thus lengthy, on Chouinard decades ago, likely in the 1970s. It might be available online from the magazine's archives. Nick Levinson (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: was more recent in the New Yorker and seems pretty comprehensive. But additional sourcing is always good!  talk 22:24, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  older source in ''The New Yorker'' 

message: Great Pacific Iron Works was a Chouinard company that made climbing hardware and clothing. A Patagonia catalogue decades ago said that the two product categories were separated into two companies because the hardware induced high insurance premiums for the whole former company, so separating lowered the insurance cost. A Patagonia catalogue about its own company is at best a primary source and not neutral, so another source may be needed (one source does not have to be neutral but in this case that would be helpful). The explanation sounds plausible to me, since, from what I've heard, insurance is pricey for the climbing industry; for example, a retailer reputedly sold climbing hardware not for direct profit but for credibility boosting profitability of other product categories; a high-quality series of annual booklets, Accidents in North American Mountaineering [year] (accident reports with etiologies), was cut back (and maybe dropped) due to industry pressure because the insurance industry used the series to justify higher premiums; and a climbing rope manufacturer with direct-to-customer sales stated that it did not guarantee that its ropes would not break in use (you'd buy if you trusted the manufacturer anyway). Nick Levinson (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Pacific Iron Works 

message: Is is accurate to continue calling him a billionaire in the lead, now that he's given away most of his wealth?  talk 22:24, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Billionaire" in lead 

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