Wikipedia talk:Russian wikipedians' notice board/Archive 1

message: Does RCOTW mean that a person should not nominate a Russia-related topic in a general COTW section from now on? Could somebody clarify this? KNewman 03:22, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
:I'm sure the word Collaboration can extend to inter-notice-board collaboration. Lets try any see. Seabhcán 12:55, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  COTW vs. RCOTW 

message: Could someone tell me if the phrase, "Red Terror" was used by early Soviet leaders? Fred Bauder 16:50, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
*Trotsky: the whole book in 1920, The Defence of Terrorism. 
*Chicherin: Soviet Government Explains Red Terror. Chicherin to Major Wardwell. 11 September 1918
*Lenin loved the word "terror", just as he loved the Paris Commune. Most probably he picked the word from them.
Mikkalai 20:23, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Red Terror

message: A couple of months ago I mercilessly cleaned all Russia-related topics from my watch list, and here you go! Someone managed to delete an article about a Russian tsar! Would someone of you russophiles like to put all Tsars, Veliki Kniazes, Emperors, etc. on your watch list? Mikkalai 20:27, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsars 

message: It looks like the RCOTW was stillborn from the beginning... It's either no one knows that it exists or people just need a kick in the b*tt. I thought this project would be a huge success. Where are those wikipedians, who held endless debates over Chechnya, Russkaya Pravda, Holodomor, Joseph Stalin and other articles? Wake up and act! KNewman 04:16, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
: What do you actually propose? Is there a plan of action? Making a list of tasks and adding them to the page was a good idea. What else? What can we do better as a group rather than as individuals?
: As for articles, I would like to bring attention to the fact, that, for example an article Second Chechen War was turned into an incoherent rambling (sections with ) by a single determined editor. It can be cleaned up by us as a group. --Gene s 08:23, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Losing faith 

message: Hi, there is a discussion at Talk:List of state leaders in 1124 about what is and what is not an independent state in 1124 (I just picked an arbitary medieval year). The list has some Russian states - Kiev, of course (which is definitely independent so it is on the main article), Novgorod, etc etc. If anyone here knows which states are independent at this period and which are part of a larger state, it would be a great help. Thanks! Adam Bishop 20:20, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval Russian states 

message: The topic of Ukrainian famine of 1932-1933 is covered in detail in Collectivisation in the USSR. If you still feel there's need for expansion or a separate article, let us know your reasons and suggestions. Thanks! KNewman 21:48, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)
Ukraine usurped the famine for its political reasons. The famine affected the whole South-West of Soviet Union: Ukraine, Lower Volga, Stavropol Krai, Northern Cacasus. Also, one should start from Famines in Imperial Russia and Soviet Union, to demonstrate that these famines struck regularly every 10-12 years, i.e., they were not a murderous plot of bolsheviks (although admittedly Stalin made a good use of it). Mikkalai 18:29, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukrainian famine

message: Please see the discussion at wikisource:Talk:Заглавная Страница#викисорс-викисос... BACbKA 16:55, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  finding a better Russian translation for "wikisource" 

message: A couple of articles Michael I of Russia and Vasili IV of Russia are being reverted by two people, who refuse to discuss the changes in any meaningful way. Please take a look at what is happening. --Gene s 09:20, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of articles on Russian history 

message: Assign city/town labels according to a rule, which should be discussed.
# I would prefer this one, although option #2 is also passable. --Gene s
# Support --Ghirlandajo 11:22, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution 1

message: Merge and rename city/town categories to something else (to be discussed) to sidestep the issue.
# Pro. I vote for merge of this categories to one category with a name "Category:Cities and towns of in Russia" MaxiMaxiMax 05:18, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution 2

message: Leave everything as is, with understanding that it would be confusing to a lot of readers (I never heard NY called "town" and never heard Riverhead called "city". It's equally wrong to categorize Myshkin as "city" or Moscow as "town")
#Gene s 08:16, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: About such a category - in ru: we have a category :ru:Category:Мегаполисы for cities anywhere in the world which have population is higher than 1 million. I guess it would be good for en: to have such a category (without dividing by countries) as well. In fact, I was wondered that there is still no such a category here. MaxiMaxiMax 04:18, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  In English, the word megapolis has a different meaning. Mikkalai 04:52, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Looks like a good addition to the option #2. --Gene s 05:42, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution 3

message: Now we have 2:2 2:3.  May be somebody else want to express his opinion or may be somebody changed his mind? Let's decide. I'm absolutely sure that :Category:Cities and towns in Russia is better than dividing towns into 2 categories (because there is no difference between them in Russia), but I cannot compel others to believe in it. If my variant is accepted, I will move all the cities into the new category. Just note, that in WikiCommons we have category "Cities and villages in Russia" and it causes no problems. MaxiMaxiMax 07:23, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is really totally dead. Ok, after so many days and unfortunately not consensus but majority I declare that I will move all articles about "города России" to the new-created category :Category:Cities and towns in Russia. I have no time to do it fast, but if somebody wants to take part - welcome! MaxiMaxiMax 16:28, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  And?