Talk:Middlesbrough F.C./Archive 1

message: Why is the club called 'The Boro' when Middlesbrough has '-brough', not '-borough' at the end? Could something on how the nickname came about be added? Magic Pickle 18:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because when correctly pronounced brough is pronounced borough (burruh). So the name of the club is pronounced Midd ulls burr uh. Philc T+C 17:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: If you have actual references to back this up please mention them here. DJ Clayworth 16:46, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "...voted most boring football club".

message: May I ask any Middlesbrough fans out there whether or not they consider matches against Newcastle and Sunderland to be derbies? I've removed the Tees-Wear and Tees-Tyne derbies from the football derbies page (Actually they were orignially all listed together as "North East derbies" alongside Carlisle. Nothing is guarenteed to make me more angry than that phrase.
As I understand it, local derbies are matches between teams from the same city or county. Newcastle and Sunderland are (now) in Tyne and Wear. Middlesbrough is traditionally the North Riding of Yorksire, and now is Teeside. In my opinion, this is too far away to be classed as a derby. If Manchester and Liverpool can't be derbies and only regional games (something that has been discussed on other pages) then Middlesbrough V. Newcastle/Sunderland certainly can't. It's like saying Hearts V. Rangers is a derby (almost)! York or Scarbrough V. Middlesbrough would make for a more appropriate derby (and those aren't derbies at all!). It must also be said that, as someone from Tyneside (Western Gateshead) the people around here don't really feel much of a shared identity with Middlesbrough. Even people from Eastern C.Durham don't and see Teesiders as "southerners". 
Obiviously we then have a problem as Middlesbrough can't have a premiership derby. That can't be helped. What would be the next best option, Hartlepool? If anyone can come up with a decent argument why the games should be classed as derbies as opposed to regional games then feel free to discuss it. Sorry this is so long!  hedpeguyuk 08:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a Middlesbrough fan since 1976, I have been to many derbies against Sunderland and Newcastle. You only have to watch the local news after one of these games to see that they should be counted as derbies. After all the local TV channel is called Tyne-Tees. I suspect that this is an attempt to wind-up Boro fans. mike1971inter 12:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is NOT an attempt to wind up Boro fans in any way! Why would I? I am neither a Newcastle nor a Sunderland supporter. I am a neutral football fan who likes ALL of the teams in my area to do well. However, you seem to confuse local games with derbies. Derbies are (usually) games with teams from the same city or, at a push, the same county. Newcastle and Sunderland are in different counties. I suppose maybe it does come to personal opinion but, as I mentioed above, how can a Tyne-Tees game be classed as a derby and not a Man U/City V Liverpool/Everton game? The latter cities are said to be too far away, and are more local games than derbies. As Newcastle and Middlesbrough are further away from one another that Manchester and Liverpool are (I think) how could a Tyne-Tees match count as a derby? A local rivlarly but not a derby.
Also, your point about the local channel doesn't work. The ITV region is Tyne Tees. However, this is a REGION and not a county or city. It is only one channel. What about the BBC's local channel - North East and Cumbria? By the same logic one could class a Carlisle V. York game as a derby simply because they are in the same TV region. Which, by the way, somebody did have included on the local derbies page under the horrible  title of "north east derby".  hedpeguyuk 12:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: derby?

message: I wonder- has this article been moved at some point?
I ask because I remember being one of the first editors here and writing quite a bit including a hefty history section yet I don't appear on the list of editorss somehow...--Josquius 16:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved?