Template talk:IPA notice/Archive 1

message: Seems like the Template page itself wasn't correctly moved. All the pages with the tempalte have broken. Was that move really necessary? The name may be clearer, but I doubt the name was needed for another template. Maybe I should check the namespace rules. --Circeus 04:16, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the template to "IPA notice" because I want to use just plain IPA for the template to surround actual uses of IPA, so it appears correctly in IE. I have fixed all the pages that use the template. Nohat 04:24, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad move? 

message: <rant> Why on earth in a time when the majority of browsers happily support unicode do we need this objectionable message in articles which may have one word in 1000 in unicode? Does not the (IPA) link which normally precedes an IPA'd pronounciation guide suffice, in the event that people have difficulties. I view the mesage box as way over the top graffiti invented by people more interested in IPA than in articles. If you do, absolutely need this sort of mummying assistance, then surely at the foot of the document would be better than, for instance, competing with the lead picture in an article. </rant> --Tagishsimon (talk)
: I mostly agree with you, but a simple link to IPA doesn't replace this.  That article talks about the alphabet, and not about technical issues with displaying it in a browser.  That said, this note and the longer one at the top of IPA in Unicode don't seem terribly useful or applicable.
: Since :Template:IPA has been introduced and has been widely added to work around MSIE's broken Unicode display, this note is much less needed.  —Michael Z. 2005-02-25 04:00 Z
Theres been some discussion of this issue on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#IPA Notice - Ugly cruft alert. Personally, I'm inclined to think that this notice is OTT on pages that only contain one or two IPA transcriptions, and should be reserved for articles specifically about phonological issues. I think a better idea in most cases is:
* surround the IPA with the IPA template
* put in a discrete link to the International Phonetic Alphabet or International Phonetic Alphabet for English articles, in the form pronounced. I think adding a link to the IPA transcription itself is a bad idea, since the ensuing underlines may make the special characters more difficult to read. rossb 07:20, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gratuitous IPA notice

message: As many language articles have IPA in them it was suggested that the IPA notice be incorporated into . This will make it unnecessary to add  to articles containing the former. However, it will vastly increase the number of articles that appear in the category. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? --Gareth Hughes 19:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorporation into Template:Language 

message: There is a bug in IE that makes it behave verry funny when it encounters font-size:smaller.
Try this:
<div style=font-size:127%>
<p>Bla</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p>Bla</p>
</div>
<p>Bla</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
<div style=font-size:smaller>
<p>Smaller?</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p>Bla</p>
<p style=font-size:smaller>Smaller?</p>
In Firefox it seems to be equivalent to 80%, so I changed it to that. Shinobu 20:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed smaller to 80% 

message: I just came across this template when reading Khmer language.  As it happens, I'm fairly competent at pronouncing (my version of) English: that's why I use the English WP.  But the English phonetic repertoire isn't much use if I want to work out the pronunciation of an unfamiliar language such as Khmer, which includes (shudder) implosives ...
Couldn't the template direct the reader to a complete IPA table? --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 10:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It now does. You can use {{}} for the previous behaviour. --Kjoonlee 19:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why English IPA? 

message: There seems to be something wrong with this template that prevents text from reflowing around the left side of the template. I am coming here from the Modern English page and you'll notice a single disambiguation line at the very top of the page, then a huge empty whitespace next to the tables down to below this IPA notice template.
I don't see a way to fix within the article to solve the text flow problem. But through experimentation I see that if I chop out this IPA notice and do an article preview, the text will then flow down next to the table without any trouble.
This is the first time I've ever ventured into the template namespace so I have no idea how to edit, much less repair, a broken template with reflow problems.
DMahalko (talk) 00:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This template has bad formatting that breaks HTML reflow 

message: It's 2019, IPA letters and symbols are supported basically everywhere. (Some very obscure ones might not be, but they are also not being used in most WP articles.) Is this template really still needed? Can we at least remove this sentence: "Without proper rendering support, you may see question marks, boxes, or other symbols instead of Unicode characters"? — Christoph Päper 09:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this still needed?