Talk:Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz

message: uring the reign of Caliph Umar II there was a massive land and sea assault by the Caliphate upon the Byzantine Capitol city of Constantinople, led by his brother Maslama.  Almost the entire force of men and ships was lost, which totalled somewhere to almost 200,000 men and 2,000 ships.  I'm going to put in a link to the Second Arab siege of Constantinople in this article because if it had succeeded, then the Byzantine Empire probably would have crumbled and the Islamic Caliphate would have expanded into the Balkans and Europe 800 years earlier than it did.
--bbcrackmonkey
I've removed this from Rashidun, please add it where apprpriate here.Bless sins 01:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: To my knowledge, this Caliph forced Jews to wear discriminatory signs in public. His treatments of Christians was similar - one of the reasons for the many conversions which he address in the taxes. Why does it not appear in the article? -- Zz (talk) 13:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any reliable, scholarly sources that back those claims? Most sources describe the caliph as particularly tolerant. Also, this article isn't exactly high-quality, needs a lot of improvement. --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I do not have them. I bet I could find them, but what I actually wanted to do is stir up a discussion for a general improvement of the article. If you have a bite, I will be glad. -- Zz (talk) 19:31, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Zickzack is right and the entry is deficient in this point. If Umar II has a reputation among Muslims for tolerance that has to do with his irenic approach to Shia and stopping the cursing of Ali in the prayer. Against dhimmi he is known as the first khalif to put their discrimination into formal law thus heightening the pressure against them... Kipala (talk) 08:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment of Jews and Christians 

message: His name was Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz not Umar II...he was a grandson of Umar ibn al-Khattab but he was an Umayyad and should be considered as an Umayyad...in fact he was the first ruler among the Umayyad's with the name Umar therefore he should be just known by his name182.182.55.56 (talk) 14:25, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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message: Most of the scholar class Umar ibn Abdul Aziz as 5th Rashidun caliph. Infact he was the 6th Rashidun caliph not the 5th. The 5th Rashidun was a Hasan ibn Ali. He was chosen as caliph by people after the murder of his father. Prophet Muhammad had said that "caliphate in my ummah will remain only 30 years. After those 30 years, it will be a kingship." 30 years of caliphate isn't completed without counting 6 months of Hasan's caliphate as Muhammad predicted.— Hammad (Talk!) 02:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Hammad: That's only if we consider Hasan as the 5th caliph. in fact, Rashidun rule actually ended after Ali, and Hasan was recognized only by a small minority of Muslims (mostly Ali's supporters). ▪︎ Fazoffic ( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ) 03:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  6th Rashidun