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Talk:Paris quadrifolia

message: The redirect Crow eye has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Crow eye]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Veratrum viride

message: This plant goes by a huge number of common names (with "green false hellebore" being among the least common); I've moved two of the most commonly encountered names to the top of the article.  In much of its native range (particularly northeastern U.S.A.) it is most commonly known simply as "false hellebore" as there are no other Veratrum species to distinguish it from.  BTW here is an online article that may be worth linking as it has several excellent photos of the plant.  MrDarwin 16:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Clintonia borealis

message: I can't verify most of the common names listed in the article. I found citations for the following common names: bluebead lily, yellow clintonia, corn lily, Clinton’s lily, yellow bluebead lily, poisonberry. The remaining common names should probably be removed unless citations can be found. Tom Scavo (talk) 13:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the following common names: cow tongue, which redirects to an article on beef tongue; dogberry, an unrelated article (note: the common name dogberries redirects to an article on genus Cornus); straw lily, for which I can find no reference. Tom Scavo (talk) 13:15, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Common name
Talk:Carmine Nigro

message: Can someone please explain to me the notability of this person ? Having been the first coach of Fischer does not sound enough to me. SyG 13:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As no one has given an explanation yet, I have added a "notability" box directly on the article. SyG 16:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also worth noting that the geocities page in the External links section is not a WP:RS reliable source.  Carmine Nigro is mentioned in connection with the young Bobby Fischer (Brady's Profile of a Prodigy, for instance), but this might not be sufficient for WP:BIO. Quale 15:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability concerns 

message: The article says he was a master.  But if his best rating was 2028, he wasn't a master. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 20:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Master?
Talk:Erythronium albidum

message: [Resolved] white trout lily should redirect to this page when typed in the search box  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.32.178 (talk) 14:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirection? 

message: "The plant is considered feminine, and falls under the domination of the moon and the zodiac sign cancer. Therefore, if the ailment is suspected to be caused by an evil influence of Saturn in any part of the body that is governed by the Moon or dominated by Cancer, some traditions believe that this herb will cure it. It is also associated with the element water."
where is this coming from? Is it appropriate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runesm (talk • contribs) 16:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  dubious material? / no sources cited
Talk:Ayşe Buğra

message: Anyone other than the author may remove the tag. I am not the author. 
 unsourced is not a reason for speedy--check the CSD page. 
Notability merely has to be asserted, not proved, to make it ineligible for speedy, check the ASD page.DGG 08:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Lilium martagon

message: I'm translating the article from German. As I'm not particularly good in that language and I don't have that much time, it may take a long. As the souce is really complete, please let me know if you want to edit the article, it may be a useless effort for both you and me (for making a decent edit and to integrate into the 'new' article, respectively). You can follow the progress of the translation in my sandbox, help or advise is obviously very welcome. Aelwyn 18:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're working on the article in your sandbox, there's no use for the under construction template. That's to be used in cases when you're making multiple, rapid edits to the page. It's use alerts other editors to the fact that there may be edit conflicts. Plus, if it's taking a long time, you don't want that template on the page for weeks and weeks. This is why I've removed it. Cheers, --Rkitko (talk) 03:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underconstruction 

message: As the seed pods are quite distinctive, it might be nice to have an image of them as well. I can offer the following. Shot it myself, and the license should be OK. ( kristian (talk) 20:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a photo in commons that isn't as nice, but is easier to add. If you can upload your photo to commons, then we could take it from there. The process for another person to satisfy the copyright checking is beyond my knowledge. Nadiatalent (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of seed pod 

message: "The specific epithet martagon is a Turkish word which also means turban or cap."
I am a native Turkish speaker and have not heard a Turkish word like "martagon" or something similar, neither it seems to bear Turkish phonetics. Dictionaries I have checked has no mention of such a word, closest matches having a meaning something like cap/turban were "marafat" and "marama" which are words in local dialects. It will be appreciated if a linguistic expert provides some clarification.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.45.12.68 (talk) 08:58, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made some changes to this sentence. There is a reference in OED to martagan, an Ottoman Turkish word referring to a particular cap. However most other authorities seem to regard it as "of uncertain origin". Darorcilmir (talk) 12:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I think references 16 and 18 are not serious enough to be quoted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.161.117.124 (talk) 07:50, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no doubt that some lilies can be toxic to cats, and cause quite serious reactions. I'm not sure we have to spell this out in every single lily article. Maybe it would be better to have a brief link to the main Lilium article, instead. A couple of these refs look suspiciously like primary research. But the Guardian is a respected British newspaper - so there is no reason to remove it. Darorcilmir (talk) 12:21, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  References
Talk:Smilax rotundifolia

message: Is it worth mentioning that white tailed deer browse this plant? It is at browse height for them and I hate to cite personal research but i have almost never seen a deer not eat this plant, given the option. The leaves taste distinctly of artichoke.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.154.211 (talk) 03:28, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Veratrum

message: :In English they are known as the false hellebores or corn lilies. However, they are not closely related to lilies or hellebores, nor do they resemble them.
I propose rewriting / expanding and clarifying the above sentence.  I agree that "False hellebore" is a peculiar name in that they do not resemble hellebores nor are they closely related to them, and their naming is a puzzle, (and is why I ended up on this page -- unsatisfied).  
However, "corn lily" is the common name of the family to which this plant belongs, along with other plants such as "Beargrass" (Xerophyllum) and "Deathcamas".  Corn lily makes sense, as they grow and almost look like old-world millet and new-world maize -- both called "corn" at different times -- and if they do not resemble the showy large-flowered lilium, they definately look like many flowers more broadly clustered in the lily order which has only been subdivided as multiple families for around a century -- long after corn lily came into common name acceptance.
Thus, I propose adding "corn lily" to the common name here -- as described under Bear Grass -- and adding more discussion -- such as appears in the introduction to death camas, .
As a side note, while I'd hope to avoid a discussion as lengthy as Talk:Corn (disambiguation), I'd welcome a bit more interest in the suggestion, now ten years old, that there would be added a lily disambiguation page Talk:Lilium#2006
GeeBee60 (talk) 17:09, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common names
Talk:Trillium ovatum

message: What should we do about this entity? The article as it stands describes this as basically (A) a dwarf form with an accompanying petal color variation that occurs throughout the range of the main species. But other sources (e.g. O'Neil et al. (2020) and citations within) point out that (1) the evidence that this form exists anywhere other than Vancouver Island is lacking and (2) there is a distinct entity (B) apparently endemic to a small region of Vancouver Island with several other important morphological and molecular-phylogenetic differences from T. ovatum. To me, the point that the stigmas extend beyond the anthers in (B) is particularly striking.
Doppelbrau (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are reliable secondary sources that refute or augment the content of the article, these should be brought to bear. Tom Scavo (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is old news but article Trillium hibbersonii now exists. Tom Scavo (talk) 14:50, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Trillium hibbersonii''
Talk:Trillium cuneatum

message: Metric to feet conversion is wrong. 400 meters = 1312 feet.
:Template added Tom Scavo (talk) 07:35, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Number range

message: Based on published observations on the iNaturalist platform, I'm surprised how this species has spread due to anthropogenic effects. How do I cite iNaturalist in this case? TIA Tom Scavo (talk) 07:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Citation added Tom Scavo (talk) 12:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Naturalized populations
Talk:Trillium sessile

message: The discrepancy in the Native American Ethnobotany Database documented in the section on "Uses" is likely a result of the naming issue described in the section on "Taxonomy". I haven't read the ethnobotanical paper summarized in the database but I'll wager the actual plant in question is Trillium chloropetalum, which was erroneously called Trillium sessile var. californicum around the time the paper was written. Tom Scavo (talk) 20:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming issues
Talk:Michael Larabel

message: Let it be. He deserves this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.234.125 (talk • contribs) 08:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the person is increasingly gaining influence in the field. Please do not remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schestowitz (talk • contribs) 00:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re tagging
Talk:Michael Hastings, Baron Hastings of Scarisbrick

message: Lord Hastings became Patron of RIFT Social Enterprise in April 2023 2A02:C7C:9052:5500:B9A1:56A3:56C2:C481 (talk) 20:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patron
Talk:William O. Steele

message: I maybe related to both him and Daniel Boone  which he wrote  a book about yodajason75@gmail.com 2607:FB91:104:180B:AC39:98B1:4E63:3E4C (talk) 19:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does anyone know if he had family in Kansas or Missouri?
Talk:Cornelius Gallus

message: There is another article of this very person:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Cornelius_Gallus
Chris Weimer 08:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged.--Aldux 11:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge needed

message: Latin has phonemic vowel length. This was depicted by the Apex in inscriptions, to differentiate between short and long vowels. Latin natives could omit the apex, because of their perfect fluency; this does not pertain to anybody reading the wikipedia article.
So please no edit wars and toddler temper tantrums. Macronisation helps to understand, read and pronounce Latin texts, so even Latin speakers used it (Apex). Those speaking Latin fluently can very well ignore it; but both macronization as well as distinction between U and V or I and J (which is, contrary to the Apex, NOT a part of antique inscriptions) is important for those speaking only a little Latin or learning it. --2003:C8:4746:E700:25F1:45B3:B39:4C01 (talk) 19:49, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macronisation
Talk:Lilium longiflorum

message: I have removed the section about Smith River because the use of pesticides in agriculture is not specific to growing lily bulbs, and the consequences described are of local interest and not particularly relevant to a global encyclopedia audience.  This is a case of putting undue weight on an aspect that isn't really about Lilium longiflorum.  It is coatrack on which a single-purpose editor is hanging an unrelated issue about which he wishes to soap box.  Gnome de plume (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smith River 

message: I'm not very experienced about this subject or wikipedia editing, I'm just a high school biology student, but I'm pretty sure that one of the pictures (the second one) is not a lilium longiflorum, but a lilium candidum. The main flower looks very simlar, but if you look at the leafs you can see that they are much smaller and tighter placed. I've not done anything about it in fear of ruining anything of the rest, but I just wanted to let you know.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karhoe (talk • contribs) 20:33, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karen Hoel 

message: The statement that the pesticides being used on the lilies are making the locals sick needs a reference. It is absolutely irresponsible to make a claim of this magnitude WITHOUT A REFERENCE FROM A PEER-REVIEWED JOURNAL. And it needs to be peer-reviewed, not from some crank with an axe to grind.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 00:52, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making the locals sick? You need a goddamned reference for that
Talk:Lilium henryi

message: The article currently states that the plant was named for Augustus Henry, and gives a reference of    Allen J. Coombes, The Hamlyn Guide to Plant Names, p118, Reed International Books, London, 1985, . I don't have this work to hand, but other works give the person it was named for as Augustine Henry; e.g. Bailey, Manual of Cultivated Plants, and Synge, Collins Guide to Bulbs. Since it was also introduced to Europe by Augustine Henry, and because Augustus Henry appears to have had no connections with botany or China, this is likely to be an error. Hence I'm replacing this entry. Imc (talk) 08:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specific name
Talk:Erythronium americanum

message: I have seen these flowers in the Wasatch range of the Rocky Mountains. Very early in spring just after snow leaves the ground 2601:681:B80:9760:9DFF:5554:34FF:C76A (talk) 00:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: According to BONAP, this species doesn't occur west of the Mississippi River. Tom Scavo (talk) 11:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog tooth violets
Talk:Pandanus tectorius

message: I removed the following paragraph from the "Uses" section, and am placing it here for reference: "When cutting leaves or pruning the hala tree, great care must be taken to do so properly.  Leaves must be cut from below, not from top of the tree.  Otherwise, the plant will quickly die and cannot be saved. personal experience of Jensin Sommer of Kailua, Hawaii."  KDS4444Talk 12:52, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed paragraph
Talk:Pandanus amaryllifolius

message: In this article, "pandan wangi" is considered an Indonesian word, while in the pandanus article, "pandan wangi" is considered a Malay word. Which one is the correct one? I would suggest "pandan wangi" is a Malaysian word, as I never heard the term pandan wangi for a pandan in Indonesia? pandan means pandan, wangi means aromatic. --Rochelimit (talk) 12:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pandan Wangi - Indonesian or Malaysian

message: Could you tell me the trick to find weak source so that i dont waste my time editing wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pandanus_amaryllifolius&direction=prev&oldid=966687175
It has reference https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jnatprod.5b00252 where it tells ethanolic extract yielded those compounds.
Also this article https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282876849_Alkaloids_from_Pandanus_amaryllifolius_Isolation_and_Their_Plausible_Biosynthetic_Formation even references the upper article for the content. I didnt know it was weak soure user:Zefr
Machinexa (talk) 20:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  How did you know its a weak source? 

message: To add to this article: mention of the fruit; photo of the fruit. Why isn't this information already contained in this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 23:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article
Talk:Pandanus conoideus

message: To be consistent with the other Pandanus articles, I suggest changing the title to Pandanus conoideus, the scientific name. Who agrees or disagrees? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 20:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested move 

message: The article states that Papuans call it kuansu. I would like to know the source. This is not a Papuan type word - sounds more Asian. In Papua New Guinea there are over 800 languages - many of them in Papua. The lingua franca is Hiri Motu - and in common with most Austronesian languages, Motu does not have consonants adjacent to each other. The "ns" combination is never found in Motu - and I known of no other Papuan language that does. I grew up speaking Motu - and have never heard the word kuansu. If a source is not available, this should be removed. Ptilinopus (talk) 07:05, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source of names?
Talk:Commelinids

message: WTF  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.5.236.90 (talk) 02:46, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Heh

message: Article states:  "The commelinids are the only clade that the APG has informally named within the monocots."  Surely that's completely incorrect as written?  But I'm not sure what precisely it;s actually trying to say.  All the other "top-level" taxons, as-were, aren't recognised as clades at present, pending being "reified"?  84.203.43.181 (talk) 23:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only monocot clade? 

message: * Merge - Commelinidae is an obsolete taxon, and the article is very short and poorly referenced.  Most of the clades in Commelinidae are now Commelinids.  Commelinids already discusses historical taxonomy so the information could easily be added there from the other article.  Nessie (talk) 16:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was thinking of giving it a whirl.  I'll get to it maybe tomorrow. --Nessie (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's perhaps worth pointing out that the article was created by an editor who consistently created articles about taxon names, not actual taxa (and who was later blocked). Peter coxhead (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from Commelinidae to Commelinids 

message: The numbers in the cladogram, e.g. "monocots 131", need explanation. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers in cladogram
Category talk:Arecaceae

message: See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants#Category:Palms for a move proposal. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As there was no dissent there, I made the move. Peter coxhead (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move
Talk:Lodoicea

message: This is a monospecific genus, and as such there is no value in having it be a separate article. This content should go back into coco de mer (actually coco-de-mer, since that is the more common name in authoritative refs). Stan 00:19, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  move? 

message: Do people actually eat these?--Marhawkman (talk) 09:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  food? 

message: I once saw a documentary about a giant nut or seed, that requires a thick bed of leaves covering the ground, or else it will crack open when it lands, and rot before germinating (or something similar). I also remember it being mentioned that it was the largest nut in the world, or one of the largest. Does anyone know if this is that species?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.83.55 (talk) 06:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  breaks if it hits the ground? 

message: The section headed "Fruit" states:
However, it is now known that the viable nut is too dense to float, and only rotted out nuts can be found on the sea surface.
whereas that headed "History and mythology" appears to contradict this, thus:
The nuts can only float after the germination process, when they are hollow.
Dawright12 (talk) 13:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flotation 

message: Surely with genetic testing it should be possible to determine whether the plant is male or female, right? The claim that it cannot is unreferenced, and the closest following reference appears to be a broken link. Hypershock (talk) 07:47, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed "determine" to "visually determine"--Quisqualis (talk) 01:48, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Determining sex 

message: Where else besides the Seychelles does this tree grow?  "The species is grown as an ornamental tree in many areas in the tropics" is not really specific enough for a properly encyclopedic article.  Has it also been cultivated in nearby Mauritius? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 19:40, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Where else does it grow?
Talk:Phoenix (plant)

message: the description of the name says "name derives from a New Latin form of φοῖνιξ, the Greek word for 'date palm', probably referring to the Phoenicians who brought the palm with them in their travels or maybe from φοινός, 'red-coloured', referring to the colour of dates."  This information is important to include but I think it makes it sound like this genus was named for Phonecians or for dates they carried.  I think it would be more accurately stated if it we explain that the Phonecians were named after the date they carried (or the date was named for them).  Im not confident which is which but the conjunction 'or' doesnt improve the sentence.Mmcknight4 05:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: etymology

message: the article said that only phoenix had pinnate leaves in the Coryphoideae sub family, this is not true, as Arenga also has pinnate leaves. I have updated the article to include this correctionTwcw88 (talk) 03:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arenga also has pinnate leaves 

message: Why is the Phoenix pusilla thumbnail a tree fern? Or is that a Cycad? In any case it's not Phoenix pusilla. --2604:2D80:A201:CA00:8937:F7E9:74EB:C4F7 (talk) 04:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phoenix pusilla
Talk:Howea

message: it would be great to have some words on the history ie. when discovered, by whom, when exported around the world (Victorian popularity, queen V had one by her coffin), and so on, a lot of this info is contained at Lord Howe Island, so just a few words might be requrired with a "more info see....". Coolabahapple (talk) 13:15, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  history and commercial use 