Talk:2006–07 Ashes series

message: The odds description does not seem objective to me, "despite wide-spread interest ... Australia are clear favourites". Also, shouldn't the Australian squad be listed, not just the English one.
Jpag99 21:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone know the Aussie squad yet? I don't think they've announced their twelve, in which case it'd be speculation. Agree on the odds description though. Sam Vimes | Address me 21:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the Aussies haven't announced a twelve yet. As the home team they will have the luxury of doing it on a match by match basis. Ollie 22:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Odds and squads

message: Slightly OT, but the game against NSW surely cannot have first-class status, can it? Even though Cricinfo doesn't make mention of it --I like pants 05:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the game didn't have first-class status as you suspect, due to there being fourteen players per side. In recent years, England have seemed to prefer match time for extra players over first-class status in at least one of their tour warm-up games. Ollie 09:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NSW Warm-up game first class?

message: Well, the moment is nearly upon us... Is there any accepted process for updating match progress? Should we wait for the end of a session or end of a day, do we update when we feel like it, at key moments, or strive to keep as up to date as possible (within reason of course)? Ollie 23:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh. It's impossible to control. Just revert if scores are wrong, maybe keep it in a template like this (the  only works properly when matches are finished), and let people edit to their heart's content. Most of the time it's right. Sam Vimes | Address me 23:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The score should be written in the format Wicket/Runs, as per the way Australians write the score.--HamedogTalk|@ 00:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates

message: I guess the issue is that Nine Network who are the official broadcaster of this series display the score and verbally say "(wickets) /for (score)" where as Fox Sports and others do score/wickets.--Mikecraig 00:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the convention on Wikipedia is to use the language of the subject, which in this case is Australian English. Australians write the score with wickets / score, so we should be writing it that way.--HamedogTalk|@ 00:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The subject's just as much England as it is Australia? HornetMike 03:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Played in Australia though.--HamedogTalk|@ 03:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, but it's an England-Australia game. That's the subject, not the place it's played at. HornetMike 03:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whats the convention according to WP:CRICKET?--HamedogTalk|@ 04:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Team score format: Adopt the consensus style of writing in the host country of the tournament, i.e. 1/141 or one for 141 for matches in Australia, and 141/1 or 141 for one for most other countries. Use slashes when shortening scores. The alternative view is that we should be consistent throughout all articles and use the style used in all countries other than Australia....nuff said eh? --Mikecraig 04:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So we are using the Wicket / Run format? Fine. Why does those Australia do it the other way anyway?--HamedogTalk|@ 04:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The question should be: why does the rest of the world do it the other way? ;) — Moondyne 04:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Australians do it differently because they are all upside down, so it looks normal to them. Or something. Ollie 20:03, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the South Africans and us Kiwi's don't follow the silly Aussies. Only the Australians do it the other way probably because they always think they're special so they want to be different... :-P Nil Einne 07:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We are special. — Moondyne 14:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

text: How do declarations work in the Aussie format? The current 9dec/602 looks wrong to me, I would have said 9/602 dec. Do educate me! Ollie 20:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I think too, but maybe some real Aussies will wake up soon and tell us. Stephen Turner (Talk) 20:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "9/602 dec" is fine.  — Moondyne 14:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scoring

message: I don't think this is really the place for a full scorecard for each match. I think Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information best sums up what I think of the matter. This article is going to end up long enough as it is, so I think we should be summarising as much as possible. The First Class Matches template does this well. What are others opinions? Ollie 13:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely. This is the 1817th Test match. Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes i agree they are over the top. A text summery of the day is better. If people want the score cards they should go to crickinfo or something like that --Stewartm82 10:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I removed it, but it's been restored. I'll just say here that I'll remove it again soon per WP:NOT unless anyone on here gives me a compelling reason not to. HornetMike 09:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. I don't particularly want it. Sam Vimes | Address me 10:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I have been watching this article for a while and thought it was looking a bit cluttered. Might I also suggest that we remove "Day 1, Day 2" etc from the contents section - i.e. don't make them headings? Otherwise it is going to be very, very cluttered, with about 30-40 links in the contents. The 2005 Ashes series seems to do a pretty reasonable job, perhaps we  could use that format?  GreenGopher 10:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have changed these to match the 2005 article. I also placed the headings (as I have formatted them) as comments for the next four tests. Now anyone writing a summary for a day can simply uncomment the appropriate section. Ollie 13:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Full Scorecards?

message: I added a sentence about how the winning captain will be presented with a crystal urn rather than a replica of the urn. 02:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: England were presented with a glass/crystal trophy at the end of the 2005 Ashes - is this the same one or different? Also, I seem to remember there being a name for said trophy, but I might just be hallucinating. Ollie 11:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The name is on The Ashes article page - Waterford crystal trophy.--HamedogTalk|@ 13:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crystal Urn 

message: I have created the "Lead Up" section. The intro was starting to get too long. --Stewartm82 15:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section 

message: I added a new section, fallout, so I could mentione Martyn's retirement - it didn't seem to fit within the "second test" section. I also get the feeling there will be quite a few stories worth mentioning before the series end. I wasn't sure if that's the way to go about it though, where do we draw the line? It's almost tempting to have a "controversy" section, where we could mention the hype around Giles and the English selection process etc, but that could be detracting from the cricket itself... GreenGopher 01:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was considering a 'Fallout' or 'Aftermath' section for each Test. There certainly could be one for the Second, can't really remember what (if anything) was said after the First. I've also added a snippet about Martyn and his replacements to the Squads section. Ollie 02:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking that to, I suppose theres never going to be much (except whispers) after just one test though, hence there was no real need. I suppose best bet at the moment is to just whack it all in the one section, and sort it out a bit better once the series is finished. The Panesar saga certainly deserves a mention somewhere, and probably the drama surrounding Freddies captaincy. GreenGopher 02:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've slightly reworded the sentence in the squads section and removed "fallouts" section.  Squads sees to me the best place for this. —Moondyne 04:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fallout section

message: Can the flags at the infobox be vertically aligned? --Howard the Duck 15:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags 

message: This article is getting a bit too large for my liking. Would it be wise to create a separate article for each test match? They seem to take up about half the article at the moment. -- Qarnos 08:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unneccessary, I think. We're not an indiscrimate collection of information and I think individual articles on each match would become that. HornetMike 18:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking up the article. 

message: Seeing as though this page is getting a lot of attention, I thought this would be a rather appropriate place to bring this up for discussion. The current infobox used for Test and ODI series does a rather good job and serves its purpose well, but it seems a little scrappy given the amount of things that carry over lines. As a potential replacement, I've come up with this one which has been blatantly ripped from the Military Conflict Infobox that has been rather successful. The good thing about this new one is that it can be used for tri-series as well as Test and ODI series. The only shortfall is that it can't be used to summarise complete tours that include both Test and ODI series just yet, although that can be very easily changed with a bit of work. What does everybody think of it? --mdmanser 08:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is great. Updating it to include tours would be an excellent decision. Manning 01:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work. To summarise complete tours, perhaps you could make something similar to the military campaign boxes (eg. , base template = ) - 52 Pickup 13:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: Warne is up for the news section of the main page after his 700th wicket - voice your thoughts at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.--HamedogTalk|@ 06:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]] 

message: Could someone site the comments made about Andrew Flintoff and his captaincy.  I think you will find that most sensible comentators have said that he should never have been made captain, as he is too crucial a man to have not concentrating on his skills - batting and bowling.  It is Duncan Fletcher who is critised the most.  Does anyone agree with removing the comments about Flintoff?--Nunners 19:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-Series  

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:2006 Ashes Series Logo.PNG

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message: Substituted at 05:58, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I am deleting the Trophy section, which cites no reference and is inconsistent with The Ashes#Urn, and amending the adjacent caption accordingly. Frans Fowler (talk) 19:48, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trophy section