Template talk:Apartheid

message: There was a time when some Churches justified apartheid policies by referring to scripture. Gregorydavid 06:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: then the link should have pointed to the three churches that did so: NG, hervormde and gereformeerd. Suidafrikaan 15:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Has everyone forgotten Johan Heyns?Gregorydavid 10:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Church and apartheid

message: there appears to be some vandalism that has damaged the template. Could this be fixed by someone who understands wikicode better than I do? Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.221.194 (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems 

message: I think Apartheid laws – which are central to the entire topic – should top the list. Perhaps with a heading like "laws and documents " or "legislation" and then include the Tricameral Parliament and the new Constitution of South Africa etc. 
I don't think that Mahatma Gandhi is directly relevant to the South African apartheid. 
Laws and documents
Apartheid laws • Tricameral Parliament • new Constitution
--Deon Steyn 07:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other" category 

message: The infobox is getting a bit big...time to remove some items.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Suidafrikaan (talk • contribs) 
::Since the last blanket revert of my edits some deletions have been added again and I have added some more too so the template may be looking overcrowded again. I think CODESA looks out of place. CODESA was an event forming part of the negotiation process, the other events were violent incidents. The Rivonia Trial was also an event.
Why has the DA been left out? Only two letters required and only one member of parliament for years, they cannot be accused of overcrowding.Gregorydavid 01:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overcrowding

message: I see that the overiding criteria in sorting template entries is that the end result must look good. I have added the DA seeing there was no opposition to my suggestion that the organization be added.Gregorydavid 01:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The template is already a little crowded, so if something could be trimmed I would think a political party only founded in the 2000 would be a prime candidate? Their inclusion is surely already a little contentious? --Deon Steyn 07:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean the inclusion of the DA you should be able to see that it is not affecting the template width and if you had taken serious note of my edit summary (through the DA runs a thread of opposition in politics that goes back a long way..) you will know what I am getting at. All the prime ancestor parties of the DA probably redirect there anyway. How can we include Helen Suzman without making mention of the party..?Gregorydavid 08:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I meant the DA, my post was directly under and threaded under you post discussing the DA's inclusion. Suzman can be included, but then surely one of the parties of the time could rather be included, e.g. Progressive Party, Progressive Federal Party or subsequent Democratic Party. All of these parties actually have their own articles and it would make more sense to include them than the DA which is only successor of sorts (and then only from 2000). --Deon Steyn 06:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Template width

message: *Lets not forget to add the "IFP" to this list.  Inkatha Freedom Party
:I moved the unsigned edit above to create a new section.Gregorydavid 09:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Organizations

message: Other topics (notably the SADF topic) that include the contents of this box (Apartheid template) do so at the risk of making the topic lose its objectiveness. The SADF topic should contain relevant data on the organization, including its role in the apartheid era of South Africa and crimes it committed against civilian citizens of South Africa. The problem is that by having this Apartheid template on the SADF page at the location it is currently placed (top right), it skews the SADF topic and makes an implication that is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. The specific issue is the image of a public notice on the Apartheid template (which is appropriate for the template), but when the SADF topic uses the Apartheid template it completely changes the tone of the contents of the SADF topic itself. Please understand I'm not indicating that there is any issue with this Apartheid template or the image in its contents. Nor am I suggesting to alter the SADF topic in a way that would mislead readers about its role in the apartheid era of South Africa. The issue is solely the effect that the template has when placed in the location used for the SADF topic. If you look at the SANDF topic you'll notice that the box in the top right of the page has relevant information for the organization itself, and the image is relevant to the organization itself (in otherwords, it's objective based on the focus of the organization). The actual article should contain the Apartheid template, but that should put the template within the contents of any relevant disclosure about the SADF and its actions (relating it to the general topics of apartheid). Rob Leach 19:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other topic linking

message: Winnie Mandela's name should be in the list of people.  Thank you very much.
92.4.236.4 (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks! Samwb123T-C-E 18:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 92.4.236.4, 11 July 2010 

message: Please change the template's code -- except the noinclude section after its end -- to the code for the opposite, so the template has a simpler Sidebar format, larger font and more visible dots between links. No content has been added/removed. Thank you. 213.246.85.235 (talk) 09:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Current seems to be the best option for size issues. Jnorton7558 (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: * "Size issues" -- don't understand. Please explain. The font-size in the current version is smaller than in similar templates elsewhere and the dots between links almost invisible. Or perhaps it's the height that's of concern..? In that case, I've seen "Navbox with collapsible lists". 213.246.86.52 (talk) 17:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I support making the change, as the IP's version is much easier to read. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

text: If there is a consensus to change this then I don't object, but don't really know about templates enough to edit it myself. Jnorton7558 (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

text:  Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 09:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested edit 

message: I’d question what usefulness the old national flag of South Africa has to this template. Bear in mind that this flag predates the apartheid era and was not only associated with political legislation, but every aspect of South Africa’s fledgling national identity from 1928 to 1994. It was the flag South African athletes represented prior to the apartheid era, and the flag that South Africans served under in two world wars. A more appropriate image should be substituted, namely one of apartheid signage. --Katangais (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the flag, per my concerns here. If a replacement image is selected, I’d recommend one of Apartheid signage. Thanks, --Katangais (talk) 22:38, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, four years later my points here still stand. My previous removal of the flag was reverted without discussion. I stand by my comments that apartheid signage is a far more appropriate image to use in this template. --Katangais (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag