Talk:Wigan/Archive 2

message: Ok. I've given this a major tidy up.  Anyone from somewhere in the Met Borough that isn't from Wigan has been removed - they don't belong here.  Dating someone from Wigan, doesn't entitle people to be in this list either.  I have also split the people into sections and created a large business section, where I have applied the same criteria. Regan123 03:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And Geroge Foreman wasn't a TT racer but was in a film pretending to be one...Regan123 17:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Indeed! Regan123 21:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous people / businesses 

message: This behaviour must stop. Continuing to insult, provoke or otherwise disrupt will likely result in accounts being blocked. Please read Wikipedia's polciy on civility, personal attacks and blocking accounts.
The above behaviour is not helpful and not within the spirit of Wikipedia. Numerous policies have been violated here. Please stop this kind of behaviour and try to work towards a consensus and compromise. Be mindful that it is the onus of the contributor to cite their sources with verifiable content only. Contributions which are otherwise can be removed at any time. This talk page is now being monitored for obscene behaviour and provocative content. Jhamez84 20:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed trolling content with this sig. Jhamez84 21:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop

message: Recently, an editor using the IP 80.193.161.89 has been editing this page, insisting that Wigan is 'a small town' and removing statements about the number of Labour Clubs in the town.  I admit to near-total ignorance of Wigan, but Google Local places 10 clubs inside the town boundaries, which are not the same as the town's postal code.  But, placing that aside, I have a concern about the accuracy of the article: the population of the town is listed as >80000.  This is not 'a small town'.  Is this is population of the town proper or of the district? Michaelbusch 02:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy concern

message: The above figure is of 'Wigan'. The wider Metropolitan Borough of Wigan has just over 300,000 residents. Man2 13:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A population of 80000 in 3.5 square miles is outrageously high: Hong Kong has a lower population density and is rather more dense.  So: either the town is much larger in area and the 3.5 mi² is only the city center, or the population number should be much lower.  And no, 80.193.161.89, I at least do not 'KNOW' what the number refers to. Michaelbusch 16:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wigan Population

message: JemmyH, what about the somewhat 'inconvenient truth' that Wigan Town Centre is in both Wigan North and Wigan South 'Townships'. Please consult these two links. The first shows the Wigan MBC 'Township' of 'Wigan North'(take note of the localities listed at the top of the page) http://www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/CommunityLiving/Townships/WiganNorth/
Now let us consult the second of the links. This time the page refers to the 'Township' of 'Wigan South'. I would ask that you again pay close attention to the localities listed at the top of the page. 
http://www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/CommunityLiving/Townships/WiganSouth/
You will notice the phrase 'Town Centre' appearing in both the North and South 'Townships'. It would be sensible to assume that the phrase 'Town Centre' is referring to that of Wigan town centre and additionally to assert that the said 'Town Centre' is one and the same locality, simply split into the 'Northern 'edge' of  Town Centre' (in Wigan North) and the 'Southern 'edge' Town Centre' (in Wigan South), would appear to be acceptable. Would it not?
If the above assumption is accepted then the argument put forward by JemmyH is proven false. The Wigan Metropolitan Borough Council list the 'town centre' of Wigan in two adjoining 'townships', therefore JemmyH's assertion that  "the town of Wigan is within a statistical area called Wigan North"  is clearly wrong.
The ONS list's the population of Wigan as 81,203. When this figure is considered with the figures for the population of the remaining areas in the 'Wigan Urban Area', the ONS figure for the total population of the 'Wigan Urban Area is found (166,840). Let us put this matter to rest. Thank you. Man2 23:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is still the problem of the area.  That 3.75 mi^2 only covers a small fraction of the town's area.  Do we have an area for the entire town? Michaelbusch 23:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume that 'Wigan' is defined as being the area of the former County Borough of Wigan. You can see more about it HERE G-Man * 00:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I also noticed the population figures for the old borough from 1971. Which show it at about 81,000. I think that more or less confirms it. G-Man * 01:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Just a line that personal e-mails (regardless of who they are from) won't constitute as reliable sources I'm afraid, as they have not been published. Local history books, primary local government act material, gazetteers, and county borough directoraries would be the best places for sources. Does Wigan not have a library???? Jhamez84 13:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: this page links to excel or .CSV file showing that the population of Wigan is 81,203 (line 674) with the Wigan urban area totaling 166,840 (line 668).  Compare the named areas to those on this map, for a complete rundown of the Wigan UA.  L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 00:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: For your consideration

message: * What a shambles. Created by an 'editor' who has called Wikipedia' his own. First he contacts my talk page, telling me this .... '
Erm.... if you have a source, then just change the content of the article........ This has nothing to do with me.' Then, when I correct the article, using verifiable information and give a description of the reasons for the different figures, he automatically reverts the entry.
Let's get this right. This article is on Wigan. The 'town' of Wigan. Not the 'Metropolitan Borough of Wigan'. Not the old 'Wigan Borough'. Not even 'Wigan Urban Area (as used by the National Statistics Office), or 'Wigan North' council ward, 'Wigan South' council ward, or anything other than 'The Town of Wigan'. Is that too hard for you all to understand? 80.193.161.89 09:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Latest 'Spiteful Reversions' by Jhamez