Talk:Andre Dawson

message: In '87, Dawson allegedly was the only MLB player ever to be MVP for a last place team.  Trekphiler 04:04, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: MVP

message: The reference to Harold Baines was a paraphrase from the Phil Rogers article (which unfortunately seems to now only be available to ESPN subscribers). It was intended only to show that it is anticipated that Dawson will no longer hold this distinction, and not as a supporting argument either way for Dawson's candidacy. To make this an argument, it would be more appropriate to show players with similar hit and RBI totals and whether or not they are in the Hall of Fame.
Isaac Lin 19:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Harold Baines 

message: How long did he worked there?
:He's still there, and has been since at least 2002. He was never on the Marlins coaching staff, as the article erroneously used to state. -- Mount Molehill (talk) 06:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dawson's job at the Marlins' front office 

message: There has been a couple of rounds of deleting and re-adding this photo. Can the interested parties discuss their rationales? Isaac Lin (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo in his infobox of him is fine, but I do not see a point in having the picture appear again in the page. Adam Penale (talk) 21:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image:Andre dawson.jpg  — appropriate or not? 

message: What... no photo of Andre Dawson with the Expos? This is sad.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.220.148 (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: No Expos?

message: Certainly the body of the article should begin with some discussion of where he grew up, went to H.S., etc. There's a comment in an article on ESPN.com about the beginnings of his knee problems being a H.S. injury that he never properly rehabbed, and that deserves inclusion here. The AP article there on his election mentions his visiting the graves of his mother and grandmother on the day of his election; his family should be covered in this portion as well. MisfitToys (talk) 22:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: nah, that would require WP editors to actually write a biography based on biographical sources. I don't see much of that going on, on this site. Seems folks who do things for free aren't quite as motivated to write decent biographies. Instead they're mostly slanted advocacy pieces and/or trivia piles. Advocates and Asbergers - it's what makes WP go 'round. Cookiehead (talk) 05:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Youth and College

message: From the 1988 Bill James Baseball Abstract: "Dawson's statistics were tremendously inflated by playing in Wrigley Field. In Wrigley Field, Dawson hit .332 with 27 home runs. On the road, he hit .246 with 22 homers."
It's quite true that the real best years of Dawson's career came with the Expos; however his Chicago years got the attention of many American sportswriters. Dawson himself believes that it is his Chicago numbers that resulted in him being elected. Thus the illusory nature of Dawson's Chicago statistics is a relevant factor for the time taken to elect Dawson. Isaac Lin (talk) 01:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not just HRs—Dawson's home batting average, on-base percentage, and slugging were all significantly higher in 1987, 1988, 1991, and 1992. Isaac Lin (talk) 05:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 88 was flat. So you got 3 wins 2 losses, 1 tie on your original research. Personally I don't think he's a HOF'er. But I'm not a reliable source either. Find a RS that claims that he got into the HOF because in 3 out of his 6 years at wrigley his major offensive stats were significantly better at home, and those 3 years then overrode the other 19 years of his career, and you're onto something. I'm through with the Hawk, so knock yourself out. Cookiehead (talk) 05:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago statistics and election to the Hall of Fame 

message: I have started a discussion on the talk page for WikiProject Baseball on including the number of Hall of Fame ballots for a Hall of Famer in the infobox. Any comments are welcome. isaacl (talk) 15:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hall of Fame balloting in the infobox 

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