Talk:Sarah Kerrigan

message: She is actually a protagonist, as she is playable not only in Brood War in the final campaign, she is the main protagonist in Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm. By definition, she is a protagonist as it is her point of view the game takes overall. Evil characters can be protagonists.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.125.9 (talk) 05:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Kerrigan is NOT an antagonist

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kerrigan.png

message: If people are adament on redrecting, would they make sure that links to here are removed, especialy if they are in the same article that this page is being redirected to! Also, please make sure that redirects to this page are removed, as this just makes unnecessary pages!Stikman 23:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently, there is a large edit to many SC articles. This page will eventually be remade. Talk to myself or User:S@bre for details, and for why this is going on, talk to User:A Man In Black. The Clawed One 23:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: The concept art with Kerrigan's human appearance is not on the Blizzard site anymore, apparently. I removed the link, so if anyone knows of a different location that has a copy of the image, please add a link to it. --The Fifth Horseman 14:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  NVM, found it elsewhere and replaced the old link. --The Fifth Horseman 15:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "One concept art shows her in human form" - it ain't there! 

message: This is definitely a solid B-class, and I'd say you're not that far off Good Article status. Here are some ideas to help you get there:
*You'll need to make sure you've got everything covered in terms of sources. The two apparently unsourced statements which jump out at me are the last sentence in the StarCraft section and the bit about World of Warcraft in the Other Appearances section. Have a look for any others.
*Per WP:MOS, in-line citation tag thingies should go after punctuation, not before. Example: A female psychic aged twenty-six[1], should be A female psychic aged twenty-six,[1]
*The Critical Reception section has a  tag. If you can find more information to flesh out this section, definitely do so, as currently there are only two different sources.
*Another note about the Reception section: you only need the in-line citation thing at the end of the paragraph, as you're using one source for the entire paragraph.
*Any information available on the creation of the character? This would go quite well with the information on Campbell's voice-over of the character.
*If there are any other useful images, put them in. There's plenty of space for one or two more images.
Though those are probably all fairly obvious points, that should cover all the points regarding getting you to Good Article, but have a look at WP:GA? and the articles at WP:VG#Featured content to see if there's anything there which might help you. If you have any further questions, then feel free to ask. Una LagunaTalk 20:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:VG]] assessment 

message: The links to the transcripts are all broken... not sure if this has been previously mentioned.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.248.193 (talk) 01:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know. I contacted the site webmaster, he says that they are having trouble with their software, but they are working on fixing it. The urls will be updated when they restore the content. -- Sabre (talk) 10:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken external links

message: I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of February 16, 2008, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: Pass, thanks to the hard work of editors clarifying in-universe content.
:2. Factually accurate?: Pass. Well-sourced, too!
:3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
:4. Neutral point of view?: Editors attest that there is no notable criticism of the character. Pass.
:5. Article stability? Pass
:6. Images?: An image of how the character appears in the game might be worthy of inclusion. As it stands, though, the images in the article do a good job of illustrating the topic. Pass.
  If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.</div>— Chardish (talk) 22:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That image is too faded and shows insufficient detail for any respectable use. I'm afraid we're stuck with the art. However, when I can get my hands on a shot of her SC2 model, I'll extract that in a similar style as the one I did for Raynor, remove the SC2 concept art and move the original piece of concept art by Metzen that's currently in the infobox down into its place. --  Sabre (talk) 12:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: http://kotaku.com/5616445/the-queen-of-blades-made-flesh <- original link i saw
http://artsytime.com/kerrigan-sculpture-from-starcraft/ <- source i found later
I dunno what the license is, the author is listed though, could someone evaluate if the pictures would suit the article, and see if the author authorizes the use please? --TiagoTiago (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We did have a photo of this statue that was freely licenced from Flickr, but it was deleted as the subject of the photo remains copyrighted by Blizzard or something along those lines. Unless we can get a photo where both the photo author and the owner of the subject matter release it under a free licence, we can't use any images. And Blizzard's unlikely to give away copyright on that statue. -- Sabre (talk) 13:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about these pictures of Zerg Kerrigan? 

message: Considering Kerrigan won, does it make the cut to be put in the article under reception? 
Here is a link to the Gamespot page: http://www.gamespot.com/showcases/atggv?sid=6279114&overridePid=939643  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.97.107.51 (talk) 02:06, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, its already in the article. -- Sabre (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gamespots All Time Greatest Villain 2010? 

message: I was going to make this change myself shortly, but since I have not been one of the primary contributors to this article, I'll give others a chance to do it first.  Wikipedia articles must be up to date, and this one is not.  Kerrigan is no longer a Zerg, or the Queen of Blades, as Blizzard Entertainment clearly states at the end of Starcraft 2.  Her fate is unknown, but she most certainly has been "restored to her original human form" (direct quote from SC2) and cannot be classified as an Infested Terran or as ruler of the Zerg Swarm, because that is an inaccurate description of her current status.  Also, I would recommend replacing her Zerg image at the top with one of her as a Terran, as shown in Starcraft 2's final cinematic.  I know this is a "good article," and I agree with that assessment on the whole, but this inaccuracy must be corrected ASAP.     —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.79.59 (talk) 20:42, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's taking a very in-universe look at the situation. Fiction articles should strive to maintain the focus on the real-world not the intricacies of the fiction. At the moment, Kerrigan's most associated form has been and will always be that of the Zerg, and most commentary is on the infested character design. They are therefore the most appropriate to be in the infobox, at least until Heart of the Swarm is released and (if) the character is properly taken in another direction. -- Sabre (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article needs Update

message: Someone needs a dictionary. unrequited love does not = "love interest".  Somo Hung was infatuated with Kerrigan might be a better line, but this wiki isn't about  Somo Hung so I would fail to se the relevance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatzinaname (talk • contribs) 22:51, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed in good faith based on your comments (and the lack of objections to them). Freikorp (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somo Hung not a "love interest"

message: Some ref links are dead/moved. Archived versions for almost all of them can be cound in russian article (see also talk page). --Sigwald (talk) 11:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref links 

message: *http://www.fhm.com.ph/entertainment/games/article/1688/
*http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/standings/index.html
*http://www.gamezone.com/products/mortal-kombat/originals/top_five_mortal_kombat_crossover_characters_we_want_to_see
*http://gry.wp.pl/galeria/10-najseksowniejszych-negatywnych-bohaterek,179679/6.html (Polish, Wirtualna Polska)
*http://www.ugo.com/games/queen-of-blades
*http://www.ugo.com/girls/99-hottest-fictional-women-of-2012-sarah-kerrigan
Accessible only via Internet Archive:
*http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/166668/the-47-most-diabolical-video-game-villains-of-all-time-page-5-of-7/
*http://www.gamespot.com/features/tenspot_females/page2.html
*http://www.gamespot.com/features/tenspot_readers_females/page10.html
--Niemti (talk) 09:11, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I want to give the article an overhaul at some point in the near future, and this will come in handy. -- Sabre (talk) 14:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few more sources that you might use for Reception 

message: The reason to have an expand tag is because information is missing, not just that more exists. Otherwise there could be expand tags on every major article. What information is missing from the reception? AIRcorn (talk) 21:15, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I was more thinking of specific facts. For example in the Joseph Byrne (Holby City) article I left the expand tag as it  clearly had no information about the characters reception (just the actors), while I removed it from Yusef Khan as it did.. I am not seeing any obvious gaps in this article. Just because there is more information out there does not mean we should add it all, especially if it repeats a lot of what we have. An expand tag on a Good article suggests it fails the broadness criteria, so it is either incorrectly added or this is no longer a Good article. If there is some specific information that is needed then I will be willing to add it, but not just for the sake of lengthening the section. AIRcorn (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I don't think you understand the purpose of the tag or the broadness criteria. The tag is for sections that are obviously missing information and the broadness criteria just needs all the major points to be addressed. Again tell me what information is missing and I will add it, otherwise this is just a tag for the sake of a tag. AIRcorn (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Okay I added what I could from the sources above. The problem is that they don't really talk about reception, but merely describe what happens to/with her. That is probably why the WomenGamers one is used so prominently. There was not really much to add, except that she ranked well on some evil or beautiful polls. AIRcorn (talk) 08:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I hope you are basing that on more than a quick google search for a name. The reliability of a source depends on what it is referencing. Even blogs can be reliable sources if you attribute them properly. I don't see anything wrong with how this information is presented in the article. The main issue is the sources you linked above do not add anything to the reception except her position in a ranking system. What can be added to the reception from this. That she was ranked 17 best villian by IGN. There is no discussion whatsoever about her reception. I would put it in, but there is no year specified and it contradicts [ http://au.ign.com/articles/2006/03/08/top-10-tuesday-most-memorable-villains this]. I am well aware of GA standards, I spend most of my time here now fixing articles that no longer meet them. That includes removing tags from ones that don't need them, which is the case for this article. AIRcorn (talk) 11:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Women Gamer  is a reliable source for what women gamer publishes. You put an expand tag on a section then remove information from it. I don't know what your game is, but I have tried my best to fix the article. I have fought you as much over this as I am willing and don't see any other choice now but to start a WP:GAR. AIRcorn (talk) 19:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I mean that if they publish something then we can say "Women Gamer has said ....." and use them as a source. They are reliable for saying what they publish as long as we attribute it. AIRcorn (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Just because they stopped publishing does not mean all there previous publications suddenly become null and void. There is a difference between reliable and useful. If you had an official website it will be reliable enough for us to repeat what you say, the question then becomes why should we care what you say. The same applies to WomenGamers. Anyway I have started the GAR process. If the tag gets removed, either because some consensus is reached that it was not needed or the section gets expanded sufficiently, then I will close it as keep and we can all leave happily. If it is still present after about a week then I will delist it. I really have no stake in this article, I am just trying to cleanup current GAs with cleanup tags. AIRcorn (talk) 20:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand  tag 

message: This articles says:
*"Image:Sarah Kerrigan (StarCraft).png|250px|Kerrigan in concept art by Chris Metzen."
*"Kerrigan's infested appearance in artwork by Glen Rane"
Choose one. --Niemti (talk) 17:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox illustration 

message: --Niemti (talk) 15:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's GA ready now again 

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