Talk:Huaorani people

message: SIL is now perpetuating ethnic cleansing of Huao. Although it is nice to convert as many as they can, destroying a culture should not be tolerated. It takes just one Rachel Saint to destroy a culture. But a destroyed culture can't be rebuilt by one million Rachel Saints.
:Well said, Axxn. I've visited the Oriente and met some Quechua, and I've read Jone Kane, Randy Smith, Yost, and other accounts. I haven't read Colby yet (don't know if my blood pressure could take it now.) This type of cultural destruction was one factor in past calls for a moratorium on foreign missionaries. Most evangelical groups have resisted all such calls.
:I've also read a lot about the impact of the oil industry and its very sloppy pactices. This has compounded the destructive pressures on rainforest native peoples. I was just putting a few bits about this into the Petroecuador stub page, then I remembered this whole subject and came over here.
Yea I'm sure it would be so much better for Huaorani if they were again living lawlessly and spearing each other at will. I mean seriously going back to living like a pack of animals would probably be better, right leftist fanatics?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.109.151.197 (talk) 16:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If I get some free time I should check if I have any further sources to add on this page, although on first glance this looks very well referenced.Birdbrainscan 18:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: You're aware, I suppose, that SIL hasn't been in Ecuador since the early 1980s?  And that Rachel Saint is long dead?  How then are these people "perpetuating ethnic cleansing of Huao", particularly "now"?? Mcswell (talk) 03:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that the Christian missionaries saved the Huao from being obliterated by the Ecuador military.  The Huao are now able to function as reasonable ordinary useful citizens.  Doesn't sound like "ethnic cleansing" to me.  Just sayin . . . Santamoly (talk) 05:48, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Anandks007|Axxn]] 11:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC) 

message: I went looking for a cite for this statement. I found several other pages that include this text nearly verbatim, and in particular I found a longer text in which these lines are contained. That site is anthropology.net. Unfortunately, (a) their longer text does not give a source for this statement, and (b) our article copies basically verbatim from their article, without sourcing them. 
I think this needs to be cleaned up, both to give a proper citation for the material, and to avoid a charge of plagiarism of the anthropology.net text (even if they are a Wiki possibly under a GFDL, we still need to cite them!)Birdbrainscan 18:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for 'contribut[ing] to the national good'

message: The actual name for this people group is Waodani, not Huorani. --Tribe12 (talk) 16:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual name 

message: It seems to me that the picture about the "Huaorani ceremony" is from other indigenous group. Huaorani do not dress with colorful straps neither do they paint their faces red. The body paint (i.e. tattoo-like patterns on thighs and arms) the folks in the picture are using is not usually seen in Huaorani people. Huaorani men never use such colorful bands around their waist; instead, they use a string of cotton to hold their penises. I recommend changing this picture to something more representative of their culture.Daimi (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of dancing tribe 

message: The article was completely re-written on June 15, 2010 by another editor. The new version A) is poorly referenced (once, for the whole articl), B) shows a narrow view of the subject, and C) removes a lot of detail that enriched the earlier article.  Attempted restorations of the earlier version were turned back, possibly by the aforementioned user under different names. While this may represent vandalism, I would like to think that it is merely the work of an inexperienced and probably biased editor.
While the version previous to the re-write wasn't perfect, it was clearly superior to what we have been left with. Unless someone has strong and reasonable objections, I will revert the article to an earlier version, perhaps making a few edits myself to try to improve it.
If edit warring over the article continues, I will seek to have offending users blocked, or the page protected.
DoctorEric (talk) 21:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and have reverted to that version.  I hope interested parties can work to incorporate new material, but wholesale replacement without discussion was unwarranted. --Spangineerws (háblame) 22:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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message: I just read Through Gates of Splendor, and it doesn't mention that the photographs were why the Waorani attacked the missionaries. This was the first edition, published shortly after Operation Auca, so it might have been determined since then that the photos were the reason, but someone more familiar with this topic should probably check. 184.21.204.5 (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: (I wrote the above comment) I have since read Jungle Pilot as well, and it also does not mention the photographs as the reason for the attacks. 206.204.236.102 (talk) 23:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious