Talk:Neil Postman

message: The following line from the second paragraph (as of 06:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright Issues

message: Anyone who thinks that Postman was decrying the "dominance of US culture" in this book either didn't read it or wasn't paying attention when they did.  There's simply nothing whatever in the entire work to support such an absurd assertion.
:: there is no such thing as "US culture", what you mean is "the Amerian way of life." McDonald's, Hollywood and Disneyland are the opposite of culture. 93.219.139.70 (talk) 17:20, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Tributes and comments 

message: This page seems promising but I'm not sure what's happening at the end of the quotes section. Maybe this should just be cut off as it destroys the readability. --Sachabrunel 15:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Is this the same Neil Postman that gave the 1969 speech at the National Convention for the Teachers of English? The speech was called "Bullshit and the Art of Crap-Detection". Looking at the dates suggests this is the same person, but the NCTE website doesn't have a list of previous speakers. --Culix 22:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is the same, inimitable, Neil Postman. Tvoz |talk 15:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Tvoz! Do you think that link is okay to use as a reference? I'd love to find something official. --Culix (talk) 09:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's not the best, but I think it's ok for now.  But it seems uneven to have Amusing Ourselves, Technopoly and the Bullshit essay together - is the essay really on the level of the books? And what about his many other books? Teaching as a Subversive Activity was an important one and Crazy Talk, Stupid Talk one of his best observations. I think the section needs expansion. Tvoz |talk 09:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Crap-detection" essay 

message: I appreciate Postman and the work that has gone into this article.  However, we are not to be providing original criticism and reporting on Postman, but rather to be reporting the criticism and published information from others, from reliable secondary (and if necessary, primary) sources.  This article reads very much like the original work of one(s) personally very knowledgable on Postman.  The information needs to be substantiated based on published sources. Content (ideas, observations) cannot appear for the first time here. LeProf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.179.245.225 (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article laced with original research 

message: While calling attention to sections and sentences lacking citations, I noted that the paragraph on the Postman-Whitehead quotation controversy was apparent OR (no sources), and that it had BLP issues—Whitehead is, to my knowledge, still alive.  Because it was entirely without secondary sources, and without primary sources as to its main claims, the claims are therefore OR, however true they might be. (By lack of primary sources I mean, primary sources for the accusation that the quotation is plagiarized; we are not to be doing original analyses of published works for plagiarism, and of the impact of such, we are to be reporting from sources on these matters.) As well, the paragraph was laden with emphatic language (see WP:WEASEL and related WP). The section was therefore set apart in its own section, and heavily annotated for the clarifications that are needed.  
It is perfectly fine to take umbrage at academic/editorial dishonesty in the mainstream media; it cannot be acceptable to cut corners in its reporting, however egregious the dishonesty might appear.  It is my view that if this particular controversy section is not cleaned up within the month—citations added making clear that this paragraph's claims are not OR (appearing for first time here in Wikipedia)—then it needs to be deleted part and parcel (moved to Talk until the BLP and OR issues are resolved).  LeProf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.179.245.225 (talk) 13:48, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Postman-Whitehead controversy 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Although the section "On Education" mentions the K-12 initiatives that Postman was involved with, it seems that it could be helpful to have some additional content on Postman's thoughts about K-12 education. I plan to add a section about Postman's thought on K-12 education pulled from his address, "The Ecology of Learning" that was addressed to the Conference on English Education. Here are some sources that I have been reading that discuss some of Postman's thought on education:
*Postman, Neil (1974), The Ecology of Learning, The English Journal, Vol. 63, No. 4 (Apr., 1974), pp. 58–64.
*Postman, Neil; Weingartner, Charles (1969), Teaching as a Subversive Activity, Delacorte Press.
*VanderStaay, Steven (2004), Subvert the Subversives (But Keep Their Inquiry), The English Journal, Vol. 94, No. 2, Subversive English (Nov., 2004), pp. 49–54.
*Wardhaugh, Ronald (1970), Review: Teaching as a Subversive Activity by Neil Postman and Charles Weingartner, The School Review, Vol. 78, No. 3 (May, 1970), pp. 429–343.
I'llallowit (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Additions to "On Education" Section 

message: Anonymous. (2004). Neil Postman Dies at 72. English Journal, 93(3), 31.
Buckingham, D., & Martínez-Rodríguez, J. (2013). Interactive Youth: New Citizenship between Social Networks and School Settings. Comunicar, 20(40), 10-13.
Donahue, Brian. (2013). The electronic imagination: Requiem for a narrative. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 70(3), 348.
Hardenbergh, Margot. (2010). The death of television. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 67(2), 170-176.
Levinson, M. (2014). Amazing Ourselves to Death: Neil Postman's Brave New World Revisited. Et Cetera, 71(2), 206.
Levinson, Martin H. (2006). Crazy Talk, Stupid Talk--redux. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 63(1), 67-76.
Liss, Barry D. (2016). IN DEFENSE OF THE ATHENIAN WAY: NEIL POSTMAN AND ERICHOFFERS' ARGUMENTS REGARDING AESTHETIC CREATIVITY. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 73(3), 244-252.
Milner, J., Ward, N., Franza, A., & Hogan, R. (1980). Our Readers Write: What Are the Implications of Neil Postman's "Teaching as a Conserving Activity" for English Teachers? The English Journal, 69(9), 78-80.
Moran, T. (2004). Neil Postman and the Teaching of English. The English Journal, 94(2), 25-27
Palmer, J., Cooper, D., & Bresler, L. (2001). Fifty modern thinkers on education: From Piaget to the present (Routledge key guides). London; New York: Routledge.
Postman, N. (2015). Forward from the editor. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 72(2), 231-233.
Postman, N. (2013). Whatever I call it, it is. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 70(3), 310.
Postman, N. (2013). 75TH ANNIVERSARY REPRINT: The Information Environment. Et Cetera, 70(4), 468-479.
Postman, N. (2003). ALFRED KORZYBSKI. Et Cetera, 60(4), 354-361.
Postman, N. (1995). The end of education: Redefining the value of school (1st ed.). New York: Knopf.
Postman, N. (1986). Amusing ourselves to death: Public discourse in the age of show business. New York, N.Y., U.S.A.: Penguin Books.
Postman, N. (1979). Teaching as a conserving activity. New York: Dell Pub.
Postman, N. (1967). Linguistics and the Pursuit of Relevance. The English Journal, 56(8), 1160-1165.
Postman, N. (1960). Grammar and the Education Controversy. The English Journal, 49(7), 487-489.
Postman, N., & Kanopy. (2014). The end of education.
Postman, N., & National Council of Teachers of English. Committee on the Study of Television. (1961). Television and the teaching of English. New York: Appleton-Century-Crofts.
Postman, N., & Weingartner, C. (1969). Teaching as a subversive activity. New York: Delacorte Press.
Postman, N., Weingartner, C., & Moran, T. (1969). Language in America. New York: Pegasus.
Renzo Llorente. (2019). Postman, Neil. Britannica Online Academic Edition, Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
Ripmaster, T. (2003). HOW NEIL POSTMAN CHANGED MY LIFE. Et Cetera, 60(4), 351-353.
Stenberg, Janet. (2017). NEIL POSTMAN'S ADVICE ON HOW TO LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. ETC.: A Review of General Semantics, 74(3 4), 528.
Strate, L. (2006). The Judaic Roots of Neil Postman's Cultural Commentary. Journal of Media and Religion, 5(3), 189-208.
Vlieghe, J. (2016). A Material and Practical Account of Education in Digital Times: Neil Postman's Views on Literacy and the Screen Revisited. 
Studies in Philosophy and Education, 35(2), 163-179.
Dcm829 (talk) 07:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography-In Progress