Talk:Kutenai

message: I would prefer to see this article named Kootenai (people), considering the use of "tribe" is not universal and "people" is more accurate. For that matter, I would also like to see the article moved to Kutenai or Ktunaxa and this pages redirected to either of them. There seems to be a movement toward naming articles after aboriginal peoples by the name they use themselves. --Kmsiever 15:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of article

message: Dropped by to see what there was on Chief Isadore and the Tobacco Plains War in British Columbia, cf. Sam Steele, the RNWMP hetman for that operation. These are redlinked for now but are necessary articles eventually. The history section here also should have more on the BC side; I'll see what I can come up with but I'm not that familiar with East Kootenay aboriginal history.Skookum1 09:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CanCon needed

message: The history section requires editing to comply with Wikipedia standards for encyclopedic style, and references to substantiate what's been written. A tag was put on in 2009, but the nec. work hasn't been done. I removed the 'Wikify' tag after putting in and checking internal links, and removing sentences written in the first person, (written in 'I' and 'my opinion') I'll check back in a few months to see where it stands, but unsubtantiated claims cannot be left in indefinately. I can offer assistance, if required. --Nihola (talk) 23:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations 

message: There is some confusion in the writing regarding the origin of the Ktunaxa. If the goatfell complex is evidence of the Ktunaxa people having lived in the Creston Valley area 11,500 years ago, then how did they come, later, from the Praries? And, how do the Salish Sinixt peoples fit into the goatfell complex, since they coexisted in the Kootenay region, and, perhaps, lived there first. They should at least be mentioned in the article as being a neighboring/co-existing group, for a very long time. I think there are some neutrality issues here.Nihola (talk) 23:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to be too cynical here, but it's pretty common for a present indigenous group to claim anyone who lived in the same area at any time in the past as members of their people, regardless of whether there is any evidence for continuity. I am no expert in this subject but IIRC at least some researchers think that the Interior Salish came in from the coast a few thousand years ago and assimilated the "Coyote people" who lived there earlier. The Goatfell people may or may not have been Salish or Ktunaxa or something else altogether, to the best of my knowledge. Megalophias (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  confusing info regarding origin 

message: Is this supposed to be in the Ktunaxa language? Anyone got any idea? — Lfdder (talk) 00:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  (It's not possible in English.) — kwami (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: B*******t if your implication (k)Tunaha can't be said by English-speakers (such as, for example, KootenayVolcano who is familiar with the word and hears it all the time in English.  There's sounds in Ktunaxa that are of course outside of English, same as there are French names that may not be pronounced right in English but are still French names.  I can't pronounce Halqemeylem right, either, but that doesn't mean it's not used when I write English mentioning it.  You figured out how to say "Sheshatshiu" yet by the way?  It exists in English, and in English Wikipedia......and since when did you speak Kitunahan enough to answer Lfdder's question?  Oh, by reading about it, same as the rest of us huh?Skookum1 (talk) 07:57, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You obviously know nothing about phonology. [kʰtʰuˈnaxa] is not a possible word in English.  It includes sounds that English does not have, and violates English phonotactics.  It is therefore not English.  You can insist that it is, just as I can insist that English has the tones of Vietnamese, but that will have no effect on reality.  — kwami (talk) 08:37, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

text: This is about the transcription that's very obviously not English; it's got nothing to do with if or how Ktunaxa is said in English. I was asking if this is Ktunaxa 'cos Morgan (1991) says Ktunaxa stops are unaspirated. The transcription he gives (p. 1) is . — Lfdder (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, SOMEONE fix the IPA, don't delete it.  IPA, after all, stands for INTERNATIONAL, so it should encompass all sounds, right?  Montanabw(talk) 18:42, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I'm gonna delete an incorrect transcription. What are you, high? It's not clear if Morgan follows the IPA very closely. — Lfdder (talk) 19:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't attack other editors Lfdder, I suggest you FIX the transcription, given that you are such an expert in IPA.  Montanabw(talk) 17:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I was kidding....but you're not making any sense, so it might be that you are high after all. — Lfdder (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

text: See Morgan 1991, p. 45–46. Says [k] unreleased in casual speech, released but unaspirated or only slightly aspirated in careful speech. No word on [t] being aspirated. — Lfdder (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [kʰtʰuˈnaxa] transcription 

message: Substituted at 01:12, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: What about Alberta being on the list. It’s known that the tribe has been around Longview area. 207.148.176.110 (talk) 14:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alberta 

message: The main photo for this article is from Durham's 1914 history of Spokane and is of Spokane Indians in the Peaceful Valley area of Spokane. https://archive.org/details/historyofcityofs01durh/page/362/mode/2up?q=%22Peaceful+Valley%22 LarryCebula (talk) 19:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kutani Camp Photo is of Spokane Indians