Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction

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message: Some interesting discussions are held at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Subpage_3#SF_novels and Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Subpage_3#Add_the_following_sf_films. Those discussions concern Vital-5, i.e. chosing the corpus of 50k most vital Wikikipedia articles (V4 lists 10k, V3 1k, V2 100 and V1 10). 
For context, science fiction is a  V4-level article. It did not make it to V3 (see Wikipedia:Vital_articles#Arts_(45_articles), seems reasonable). 
At V4, sf is listed at Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/4/Arts#Literature_(217_articles) with one subgenre/concept (). A number of sf/fantasy works of literature are listed but it is a bit hard to get a quick count as that list is done in chronological (era) not genra period. There are four sf/fantasy films listed at Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/4/Arts#Science_fiction/Fantasy_(4_articles). Television shows like   are at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Society and social sciences.
At V5, sf concepts can be found at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Arts (literatue, film), Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Society and social sciences/Culture (television) and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Everyday life/Sports, games and recreation (video games). 
And of course, people are at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/People and at V5, Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Writers and journalists, Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Entertainers, directors, producers, and screenwriters and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Artists, musicians, and composers are relevant. 
It is not idea, but VA lists are one dimensional, so sometimes it's hard to figure out where a particular concept belongs.
One final observation and example: Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Arts#Speculative_fiction_(9_articles) lists # Speculative fiction, # Alternate history, # Fantasy (Level 4), # Horror fiction (Level 4), # Science fiction (Level 4), ##  Cyberpunk, ## Time travel (Level 4), ## Teleportation and # Superhero fiction. The obvious (for me) ommssion of  is not an ommission but one of those weird categorization - it is listed under Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Arts#Concepts_and_forms_(99/100_articles) (for Visual arts, as a subtopic of retro style). Probably should be moved. 
Anyway, if anyone is looking for a new fun time sink, and/or feels like making a case what are some of the most important works and creators or concepts of sf, sto by WP:VITAL :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are the most important concepts of science fiction? 

message: George Griffith is at WP:FAC, see WP:Featured article candidates/George Griffith/archive1. Further input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. TompaDompa (talk) 08:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robots of Stanisław Lem#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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message: Cleaning up the See Also list at Ex Machina, it became obvious that we need a List of films featuring androids. Anyone feeling in the mood to get it going? I would but my list would be too trivial:
* Metropolis (1927 film)
* Blade Runner
* I, Robot
* Ex Machina
* Terminator series
* Star Wars series (though arguably the androids are background action, not lead characters).
That's it. I'm afraid that IMO there are very few SF films worth the time it takes to watch them 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There already is a List of fictional robots and androids with a section for film. It's not exactly a quality piece of Wikipedia content, to put it mildly, but it exists. TompaDompa (talk) 12:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: TYVM, that's helpful. List articles can never be more that a set of pointers to specific articles, so we mustn't be too hard. The problem for my purposes with that one is that it is too non-selective and too open-ended. I think that there is an opening for a list that is restricted to movies where the android is leading actor or at least best supporting. Somebody who knows more about it than I do might mine that article to create the new one? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't say I see the point. Sounds like a better idea to write a proper prose article on androids in fiction, assuming we have the sources for it (compare e.g. Mars in fiction). For the record, Robots in fiction currently redirects to Robots in literature, while Robots in film redirects to Science fiction film#Robots. TompaDompa (talk) 12:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of films featuring androids 

message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Life, the Universe, & Everything#Requested move 18 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Hilst [talk] 11:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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message: Clare Winger Harris has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 12:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Superman (1978 film)#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: There is a requested merger discussion at Talk:List of fictional computers#Merger proposal 18 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Dash77 (talk) 22:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 16:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: After a protracted argument on the Dyson sphere talk page that seemed to be going nowhere, I decided to consolidate and restate the basic issues concerning this section in general, and one particular instance that has proven especially vexing, as I see them.  I hope that members of this and other related WikiProjects might weigh in and give their opinions.  P Aculeius (talk) 18:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Dyson_sphere#Dyson spheres in fiction]] 

message: I just came across something called "Cosmic Stories Blog" by Elizabeth Stanway, an astrophysicist at the University of Warwick (the blog is hosted on the university's website). I took a quick look at some of the blog entries, and they seem like they could be useful for quite a few Wikipedia articles—if they are usable, which is what I wanted to ask here.
My thinking is as follows: according to this page, Stanway has been published in Foundation, The Conversation, and a book on Doctor Who, among others. That should mean that, when it comes to science fiction, Stanway counts as  per WP:Self-published sources, making "Cosmic Stories Blog" a reliable enough (even if low-profile/marginal) source for science fiction content. I wanted to hear if others agree or disagree with that assessment.
Ping some editors I know to be knowledgeable about sci-fi sources:  what do you think? TompaDompa (talk) 00:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @TompaDompa That seems like a valid case. I'd recommend attributing her too. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cosmic Stories Blog" by [[Elizabeth Stanway]] 

message: Solaris (1972 film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: There is a requested split discussion at Talk:First contact (science fiction)#Splitting off the list) that may be of that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Ships & Space(Edits) 17:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Everything_Everywhere_All_at_Once#Evelyn_Quan_Wang_character_article, which is within the scope of this WikiProject.  Spinixster (trout me!) 02:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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