Talk:Mosman, New South Wales

message: As per discussion at Talk:List of Sydney suburbs, I have created a separate page for the Municipality of Mosman, the Local Government Area. -- Ianblair23 11:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate page for the Local Government Area 

message: I have reverted the large chunk of text that was added in April along with the chronology of Mosman events.  Both looked as if they were cut-and-paste verbatim from another website Steve 05:41, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And reverted when it was added again verbatim from http://www.mosman.nsw.gov.au/library/history.html Steve 23:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And again, and again! Steve 00:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyrighted Text?

message: Steve, the text as it appears on the our website (http://www.mosman.nsw.gov.au/library/history.html) was written by Librarians at Mosman Library. We are happy for it to appear on this page if the source is acknowledged; e.g. "- from 'History of Mosman', Mosman Library website" (hyperlinked)
: I am not an expert in these things, but a cut and paste from an external website can only be done when that party explicitly "gives permission" to do so. In this case, I have seen administrators (I am not an admin, not yet anyway) tell the person who is claiming to be the presumed copyright holder to use the "email this user" option in the toolbox to send mail to an administrator from an email address that is associated with the organization which owns  copyright to confirm that they really are the owners of the copyright. So I think you should get an account, set the email to your Mosman council email, and then email and administrator to verify that you are the copyright owner and are happy for it to be put on the wikipedia. Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 01:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding History of Mosman text 

message: This page has had its infobox updated to [[Template:Infobox Australian Place|Infobox Australian Place. This update has been automatically preformed by TheJoshBot. The following infomation has been lost in the transition, and will need to be converted to the document prose: 
Field Name            	Field Value
council               	Mosman Municipal Council
ausborn               	64.7
atsi                  	0.1
statistical_local_area	5350
federalmember         	Tony Abbot
:I've put "council" in as LGA.  I do not think "ausborn" and "atsi" are really needed (they're not particularly notable).  SLA is not very interesting, and "federalmember" can be found via the Federal Division. Chovain 22:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I'm confused.  The info box seems to be for the LGA.  But isn't this page the suburb of Mosman? Chovain 22:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox Update

message: thumb|Here is a scenic pic that I took in Mosman with a small beach in the distance
:::::The pictures on commons look pretty good, I actually started that category and took a few pics for it. Some of the pictures are usable but I think we could do better. When I learn how to use my camera properly I will go back and try again. This time I would probably take a couple of wide shots or panoramas that take in more than just a picture of one house or one building, which I think in some cases is a waste of space in  the article. I know I am guilty of adding shonky images and not practicing what I have mentioned above but I am still trying to figure this out. If someone was going to add an image to brighten up the article it would be good to find the nicest place in the area take five or six adjoining images and then stitch them together to form one good shot, I actually took 24 shots for this :Image:Harbour bridge stairs.jpg and I think about 3 or 4 for this, :Image:Malabar1234.jpg which takes in most of the suburb even though the quality is not all that great. 
Also concerning the expansion of the article, I think Mosman has an extensive Military history, most of it related to historical forts and Sydney Harbour defences, especially around WWII. I have created several articles concerning this and some of this text could be rewritten for the Mosman article. All those articles can be found in this template :Template:Barracks Batteries Bunkers and Forts in Sydney. Some interesting history as in how they used to line the harbour with mines from Clifton Gardens to blow up enemy subs or ships trying to enter the harbour could be written for this article (information and refs are available in this article), or the extensive tunnel network that exists under Middle Head, Georges Heights and Bradleys Head that link to adjoining historical forts that were built around 1871 or prior could be written for this article. One or the forts built prior to wwii in the area that is not quite visible from the outside is the equivalent to an underground train station, almost like St James but not quite that big, heres a pic :Image:Chowderbay-forts0079.JPG and this :Image:Chowderbay-forts0042.JPG. The place is about 200 metres long by about 50 metres wide, has about twenty rooms or so, so theres got to be some history here. There are many refs available for this as well, I may look into this in future but would not want it to be a carbon copy of the content that I added into the Sydney Harbour article. --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Those sorts of comments are really unhelpful. There's no need for snarkiness and absurd accusations - everyone is here in good faith trying to find ways to improve the article. I feel you are too emotionally invested in this article. Sarah 11:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made extensive contributions to almost all Sydney suburb articles. From researching History to building infoboxes, providing important facts and photos of landmarks in each suburb. If I seem passionate it's because I don't want to see all the contributions that people have made lost. I'd rather see improvements made to all these articles rather than having important information deleted because somebody doesn't like the way it looks. I've often found snippets of rough information that has been included in an article, that some might think was inarticulate, but with a bit of research and a rewrite it can be turned into a gem, and a vital part of an article. Every aspect of this article has been criticised and I fear that there will be indiscriminate deletions. J Bar (talk) 12:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re:Sarah, Merbabu and all and the expansion of article

message: After making such a fuss about too many similar photos being used in the article, we now have editors duplicating facts in the article and captions: "Mosman Council has identified the early twentieth century shopping strip along Military Road as a conservation area. The awnings along the street were originally column-supported." Why does this fact appear twice?
I would also like to suggest that editors have another look at WP:OWN. J Bar (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: J Bar - you don't see the irony in crying "own" but still fighting tooth and nail to have your own photos in the article even when their relevance is shown to be tenuous, and their number repeated over and over? How does that not fit into WP:OWN? As for the repetition in caption, it's hardly a major issue but I've trimmed it a bit. However, it does show how the pic directly relates to the text – ie, a requirement for any picture in wikipedia that was not done particularly well here before hand. And it was referenced information - another rare thing here. --Merbabu (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You continue to delete and modify all contributions from other editors. WP:OWN. Enough said. J Bar (talk) 01:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to draw attention (again) to my changes, I have trimmed some of the caption you mentioned. I think though it is important to have some specific info explaining the pics' significance, and that means that one sentence is mentioned in the caption and the prose - no big deal. --Merbabu (talk) 03:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Other editors are trying to be constructive but the edits by all other editors are being constantly reverted. That's the problem. J Bar (talk) 03:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplication

message: Potentially loads of info here to broaden the presently narrow scope of the article. I will help as I can, but can’t promise much. Too many other real and wiki life commitments at the moment. --Merbabu (talk) 02:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More than just a built environment...

message: Could you guys discuss the House images here please, rather than edit warring and taking cheap shots at each other? -- Mark Chovain 05:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images in #houses 

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