Talk:Darren Sharper

message: this edit looks suspicious. Can someone check it up? NerdyNSK 22:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  suspicious edit 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: In this section, Sharper's recent charges are mentioned. After reading through a number of different articles from different news sources, I noticed they either used the word "". Sharper had two counts of "rape" or Sharper was charged with "sexual assault" twice. I'm not sure which phrase we should include as they obviously both have a negative connotation but are notable enough to be included on his page. I also found an article  which briefly describes the difference between sexual assault and rape in each state. However, California is not included.  I've provided three different references to back up these claims on Shaper's page, each of which have a slightly different description of his charges. Which phrase do you think we should include: "rape" or "sexual assault"? Let me know your thoughts. Meatsgains (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Life after football

message: Should not the opening line read "Darren Mallory Sharper (born November 3, 1975) is a former American football safety and rapist. He played in the National Football League (NFL) for fourteen seasons"
The allegations against him is that of a sexual predator which makes him a criminal of the worst kind. This page seems to down-play his crimes against women.
An other very interesting piece that explains how he was able to get away with his crime spree for so long is http://www.propublica.org/article/police-fail-stop-nfl-darren-sharper-rape-spree  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djandersonza (talk • contribs) 13:35, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph 

message: Very recently, I added a news source.  That news source is only present in the mobile version of the article. It is present in both when I am logged in and only then.
Furthermore, the edit is not listed on "View History" UNLESS I am logged in.
I understand that sourcing is a sensitive subject, so please either remove this source completely or add it to both versions, mobile and desktop, so there is no inconsistency.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrokeOfMidnight (talk • contribs) 00:15, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There aren't two different versions of the article. Are you talking about this edit? If you are it is available. -- GB fan 00:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

text: I looked at it on three different devices. In the mobile version, the Wikipedia app, and the desktop version and in three different browsers. I see the reference everywhere. -- GB fan 01:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Your edit does appear in the edit history and the page reflects your changes. Meatsgains (talk) 02:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

text: I looked at it again this morning on a completely different network and machine, two different browsers, one logged in and one logged out.  It shows up on both, I don't understand why you would not see it everywhere.  -- GB fan 11:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  My edit showed up in the mobile version but not in the desktop one.  What gives? 

message: Now that it's obvious what the opening sentence won't be, let's make sure we agree on what it will be. Personally, I'm still of the same opinion that the opening sentence need not mention his criminal status. A few sentences about it at the end of the lead should suffice.Lizard (talk) 19:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Rolf Harris is a good example of what the lede should look like. Omit "felon" from opening sentence and leave the first paragraph for his athletic career. A separate paragraph should summarize his brief broadcasting career, arrests, convictions and sentences.LM2000 (talk) 21:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Strongly support omitting the "convicted felon" part, via recentism. In my opinion, things are already tilted, the way they are now. Light show hilariously pointed out that the article reads like it was written by a lynch mob. :) Not sure I agree, but the point is that there is probably no need to amplify this inadvertent (and rather inevitable) imbalance. The drug-rape case wouldn't have received as much (or any) attention, had the offender's name been John Doe. StrokeOfMidnight (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Off-topic Actually, I'd imagine the irony of someone's name actually being John Doe would get a bit of media attention. But I digress. Lizard (talk) 23:00, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Not really. If "convicted felon" has to be moved outside the first sentence, it should just belong elsewhere in the lead. At any case, him being listed as a serial rapist (in the lead) should be omitted. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:47, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "former American football safety and broadcaster and a convicted felon" 

message: "On January 25, 1997, Sharper appeared in Super Bowl XXXII as the Packers lost to the Denver Broncos 31–24 and failed to repeat as Super Bowl Champions"
This should say 1998. Sharper was not on the team in January 1997.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.3.181 (talk) 11:18, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Eagles 24/7 (C) 12:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: wrong date 

message: There was discussion in 2016 to change the introductory sentence to include Sharper's rape convictions. Since that discussion, Sharper has pleaded guilty to numerous additional rape charges in California and Arizona. The gravity of these crimes, as well as the fact that Sharper remains incarcerated for them, is sufficiently important to include in the first sentence. As currently written, this page implies that Sharper's accomplishments in the NFL are very important, while his multiple rape convictions are a mere footnote.  
Suggested wording of the first sentence: "Darren Mallory Sharper (born November 3, 1975) is a convicted rapist and former American football safety."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:281:CC80:CEB0:3898:D2FA:6252:D014 (talk) 18:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite first sentence to include the fact that Sharper is a convicted rapist 

message: In the section "Convictions of rape and drug distribution" under the subheading "Allegations" ...
Beneath the bulleted list, there is a one-sentence paragraph that is redundant, merely repeating information already provided in the last 2 bullets.  Because it merely repeats what has just been documented, adds no additional information, and references the same footnotes, I am requesting that it be deleted to tighten up the text. Eclecticist32 (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2021 

message: This guy is on the wiki list of most prolific rapists, yet this article doesn't bother to mention the fact that he's a twice convicted serial rapist anywhere in the opening paragraph? This is ridiculous. 2601:1C0:6F80:2480:38D7:C02C:F1B0:239B (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  He's on the list of most prolific rapists. 

message: Why are we equating a situation where someone was convicted of a crime to one where they were not? I don’t have anything to say about Ray Lewis’ actions in this context other than it seems erroneous to shoehorn him into the discussion about electing Darren Sharper, who is serving a very long prison sentence for raping multiple women. The page is locked so I can’t edit out this small bit of user based analysis that comes after the end of the source. It takes away from the article itself as well, but I think the major issue at hand is that Ray Lewis doesn’t deserve to be associated with a monster. If someone wants to read about his off the field problems they can find it in his own wikipedia article. Genghisbongsmongolianbbq (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed that line, it was added last month. Unless there's a compelling reason to compare specific players to Sharper, with sourcing to back it up, we should not be doing so. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ray Lewis 

message: Under section "Convictions of rape and drug distribution", sub-section "Allegations", last bullet list item, within sentence "[...] before taking the women his hotel room and [...]" the word "to" is missing. The corrected segment: "[...] before taking the women to his hotel room and [...]" Nicksil (talk) 07:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Charliehdb (talk) 12:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2024