Wikipedia talk:WikiProject EastEnders

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message: (Ooh, controversial...) Is there, or has there ever been, a project consensus not to include miscarried babies in the list of deaths in Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/List of births, marriages and deaths in EastEnders? See recent edit history on the page. Kat Slater's unborn baby died in February 2003, but should this or should this not be included in the list? Anyone who has ever suffered a miscarriage would argue that the death of an unborn baby is effectively the same as any other human death, but is that taking things too far for the purposes of the project? The births/marriages/deaths list is not in main space and is just used as a reference tool for editors on EastEnders pages, therefore I vote to leave it in. Argument against: The baby was not a named character. There are probably other miscarriages that would also need to be included to be consistent. How far into the pregnancy was Kat Slater? If she was close to term, it should certainly be kept in. Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:52, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should a miscarriage be counted as a death? 

message: The page name, name on the first line, and name on the infobox are no longer consistent.
I would do it myself but I think I'm on the verge of a slow-motion edit war with non-logged-in editors.
A few years ago the page was moved to its current location per WP:COMMONNAME.  I am not familiar with the show's recent history to know if the page should be moved or kept where it is.  In any case, the infobox name, the first name on the first line, and the page title should be consistent.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The page needs to stay at its current location. I'm trying to keep an eye out on the page as I know other editors are too. Soaper1234 - talk 20:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Stacey Slater]] needs attention and watchers 

message: Hi everyone, I have drafted the page for Rose Ayling-Ellis, who plays Frankie Lewis, as part of a project to expand the presence of deaf people on Wikipedia. I would be grateful if you could expand the draft and/or move it to mainspace. Thanks! Esamiarum (talk) 13:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rose Ayling-Ellis 

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thread_title:  "Wikipedia:EE" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

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message: Whitney Dean is a 2008 GA with a 6k+ word storylines section. I'm posting here in case anyone would like to trim it down by 80%, otherwise I'm going to create a GAR. Alyo (chat·edits) 16:28, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Same thing applies to Abi Branning, Dot Cotton, Cora Cross, Fatboy (EastEnders), and Chrissie Watts. These are all pre-2012 GAs that have just ballooned over the years and need to be cut back quite a bit. Alyo (chat·edits) 19:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comments are certainly valid - I hate any storyline section in general and often tag the lengthy ones. These all certainly need to be trimmed considerably, for which I would like to ping , who does this task quite well. I will offer my help to some articles in a few days when I have more time on my hands as I am ruthless with trimming details. However, after seeing your edit on Linda Carter, I'd like to ask that you learn what storylines are necessary to keep, or perhaps leave it to those informed on the topic. You removed numerous storylines such as her marriage, rape, having children, alcoholism, losing her husband, etc, and replaced it with 1 sentence on who her relatives are which is covered in the infobox. I think that was lazy. – Meena • 00:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, I will just remove the storyline(s) section entirely. The paragraphs will continue to exist in the edit history, and anyone who wants can pull details and sentences from them there. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:37, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've trimmed all of the above GAs. It took a little longer to get around to than I thought, but June was busy. I enjoyed the task more than I thought I would - quite therapeutic and I'll probably continue trimming people with long plots instead of just tagging them as I've been doing for a while. – Meena • 18:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha I'll continue to tag you in as I find them then--those look much better! Alyo (chat·edits) 20:19, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Hey, I am sorry for the lateness in reply. Over the next few weeks I am going to trim those storylines. However, I do agree with the above comment. Additionally, I thought it was quite rude that the storylines from certain articles (such as Babe Carey) were removed rather than tagged... it causes much more trouble and stressDaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:36, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, the content still exists in the article's edit history, easily available to anyone who wants to use them to build the articles out. I'm sorry if anyone takes these edits personally, but the burden is not on me to condense the content until it abides by our policies. Alyo (chat·edits) 05:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not say AT ALL that the burden is on you to condense it. I am saying that you can easily tag them or alert editors (like you did above) rather than removing a big section of the article... DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You may not have said that, but Meena called my edits lazy and you agreed with the comment, so you can see how I read that. With regards to alerting/tagging, I brought those articles here because they are GAs. If I tag the articles with , the articles get added to a backlog of over 6k articles, dating back to July 2007 (:Category:Wikipedia articles with plot summary needing attention). If those articles were not GAs, I would have removed the relevant sections, as I don't know that they will be fixed otherwise. I'm happy to create a running list of articles at WP:SOAP that need significant attention, although the current discussion saying that the storyline section guidance actually needs to be more inclusive doesn't fill me with hope. Alyo (chat·edits) 19:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  GAs that need to be trimmed heavily 

message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of EastEnders characters (1985)#Requested move 5 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move at [[Talk:List of EastEnders characters (1985)#Requested move 5 January 2024]]