Talk:John Cena/Archive 7

message: what ever happened to the article about his second album? 74.67.171.23 15:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What second album? «»bd(talk stalk) 17:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It probably wasn't. Besides there's no actual proof of it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

text: That's proof now? Just because someone once edited the You Can't See Me article to claim there are plans for a second album doesn't mean there ever were any such plans. There was also constant vandalism here and on the You Can't See Me article claiming a second album was coming named The Unity and it had a bunch of members of G-Unit on it or some such nonsense. Also bogus. There is no second album until there is a second album.«»bd(talk stalk) 01:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Nobody's perfect; vandalism, unproven claims and the like sometimes go unnoticed by editors. Th 2005 13:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  second album 

message: In the article there are a total of 8 pictures.
Now Cena has only been wrestling for 8 years. Undertakers page has about 3 or 4, and he has been wrestling for about 20 years.
We need to take some of these pictures out. The same thing goes for Orton. AD Double J 19:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not about who has been wrestling longer. Undertaker's page should have more images, but they have to be free use you know. This article is very nicely illustrated IMO. Though it could use a better infobox pic. --Maestro25 19:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many Pictures 

message: I was reading a WWE magazine and it stated that he's a New England Patriots fan. Can that be added to his Personal life section? Zenlax 1:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not. Add it to the thing about the Red Sox and use this for citing.«»bd(talk stalk) 20:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Might this be the article of the magazine that you were reading? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:20, 06 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Please add the volume and page numbers to make the cite complete. And maybe a quote having something to do with The Patriots. «»bd(talk stalk) 19:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: As a matter of fact, if that's the cite, that doesn't have anything to do with him liking the Pats. I'm removing it.«»bd(talk stalk) 19:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I was wondering about that. They talk about the Pats, but he never says "I like them" or anything remotely close to that. --Naha|(talk) 21:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: In addition, in case anyone cares, the interview above is in the October 2006 edition of the magazine, which I have.  I just scanned through the entire interview in case this was mentioned elsewhere, and its not (in this interview anyway).  So yeah, leave it out. Cheers, --Naha|(talk) 21:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I can easily see how it could be inferred that he likes them by reading the article, but he never actually says anything like that.--Naha|(talk) 21:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patriots fan 

message: Is that his real father, or just kayfabe?  Zurqoxn 01:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: John "Johnny Fabulous" Cena, Sr. is his real father.«»bd(talk stalk) 01:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I thought so, but I wasn't certain.  Zurqoxn 02:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It should just like Orton had his dad in '05. Speed_CG 9:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're 100% correct.«»bd(talk stalk) 18:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Father 

message: I don't know if this image might help Cena's article. Anybody want to give a suggestion? <font
color="ForestGreen">Zenlax</font> Talk  Contributions 19:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double Champ 

message: Look, however POV it may sound, it is a practical joke that there isn't a whole subsection on Cena's "popularity" or lack thereof. First of all Cena is the only main event status face I know that has worked strenuously for over two years to win the fans' support and be unsuccessful in doing so. He may also be the only face in WWE history that has been unpopular enough for the WWE to bank on (the WWE know that the only reason people watch the PPVs now is to see Cena lose the title, so they drag it all out and the audience falls for it month after month after month). I can just about understand the WWE making every Raw episode a pathetic arena to portray Cena as a musclebound superhero by passing off his cheap formulaic wrestling style as superhuman but I don't know when the WWE is going to realize that fans pay in $ to sit through PPVs and to have the same monotonous result repeated on every main event through winter, through spring, through summer and now back through autumn is just pathetic.--80.175.110.17 22:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your logic is flawed. Does everyone like Cena? No. Do the vast majority of WWE fans like Cena? The answer is a yes, no question. The IWC and smarks make up a very small part of the wrestling fanbase. The kids LOVE Cena. He gets massive pops at nearly every arena (Hammerstein Ballroom and Canada notwithstanding) and sells huge amounts of merchandise. I don't like Cena any more than you do, but if you look at it from a financial standpoint, Vince would be an idiot not to push Cena the way he does. Gavyn Sykes 22:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Face? 

message: WWE.com says Cena was injured by Randy Orton in the Main Event, is this true? J.C. 04:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PWInsider is independingly reporting that he was injured during the match, with both articles stating that it was from in the ring with Kennedy. Mshake3 04:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should it be part of the article that he's going to surrender the championship? I'm no expert on a lot of the policies but doesn't that advertise an event yet to take place and doesn't that go against the WP:Crystal policy?Odin's Beard 22:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The things we try to keep out of articles are upcoming matches and other things that fall under the blanket of "card subject to change", with this injury, all things considered, this won't be changing.«»bd(talk stalk) 00:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: wwe.com has the annoucement of the vacacy of the title up but if you go to totile history and click the last istance of cenas name it still says spet 17 2006- nothing but yes i did see vince announce the vacany last night. what should we do?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.74.254 (talk) 11:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: nvm it has been updated  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.74.254 (talk) 13:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree, seen the video and will update.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weightchamp (talk • contribs) 09:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can not change cited information without providing a cite for the change.«»bd(talk stalk) 00:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not entirely certain what you are looking for me to put. If you watch the Raw you can see I'm right  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weightchamp (talk • contribs) 18:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm guessing by the fact that no-one has responded to that comment in a month, then nobody can disagree or correct me so I'm changing it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weightchamp (talk • contribs) 12:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena injured 

message: John Cena has been widely criticized for his actual wrestling skills to put it briefly, yet there is no such section mentioning this throughout the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.241.248 (talk) 04:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the Thousand Dollar Question: Got any reliable sources, and not the usual Forum fancruft that proves he's a "bad" wrestler? Blacklist 06:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Go find some and we'll see if they qualify. Blacklist 06:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

text: There's no source for that sort of thing. And he faced Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania 23, not Triple H. Gavyn Sykes 23:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention the Triple H WrestleMania where the fans cheered the heel is mentioned. I should know, I wrote it and sourced it.«»bd(talk stalk) 15:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it should be mentioned that  for a top face, he has a large group that dislikes him and his biggest criticism is his inability to wrestle.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amamamp (talk • contribs) 21:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't make him much different then Hogan, or Batista, or even Mick Foley (who's had detractors in the same way).  I really don't think that's notable enough for him for this article.  --CWSensationt 06:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critiscism 

message: Is the word Fuck really necessary in this article, I can't edit it but i think someone should. --222.155.108.55 02:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The F word 

message: do you think it would be worth adding to the article about cenas issues with CNN?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.163.148 (talk) 05:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Steroid Allegations

message: So since yesterday, someone took down the farshot of Cena with both belts. I put it back up, someone else then took it down. So alright, I uploaded a new photo of Cena and HBK together with the belts, then THAT gets taken down too.
What gives here? Yes, the pictures aren't great quality but it's important we have a picture of this in some way. He was a double champion which is a big deal. We should have a picture there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Writer1400 (talk • contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the picture is of poor quality and doesn't help enhance the subject nature of the article, then it  shouldn't be in the article. It's not necessary to have a picture of every single one of his achievements. Would it be nice? Of course. Necessary? No. Quite honestly, I don't mind the picture in the article now. It's not the greatest, but it could be much worse. Bmg916Speak 13:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture in there now is bad quality. It's grainy and the colour is bad. There's enough other, better quality, images in this article that that one doesn't do anything to help it in any major way. If this were an article without so many images it would be a different story.«»bd(talk stalk) 14:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the picture is not the greatest but it's still decent. The article is better with the picture than without it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Writer1400 (talk • contribs) 
Just like we did for Randy Orton, we need to have a vote for the image to stay or not. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

text: No, of course we don't. Who cares about forming a cohesive project with a consensus? Sarcasm, aside, I do think a vote would be good. Gavyn Sykes 23:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Gavyn. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If we do vote i would vote for it to be removed as it is not very good quality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sephmk (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What image?  Speed CG Talk 16:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The one of Cena as double champion, I vote we keep it. Writer1400 (talk) 23:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a lot of images in the article and this one is of awful quality, its not providing a encyclopedic impact that is particulary significant, I support removing it. - Caribbean~H.Q. 23:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Remove, it's way too grainy. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm sick of taking this image out. It's so dark and grainy I couldn't tell what was in his left hand until I read the caption. It adds nothing to the article, especially when contrasted with the other, good quality, images in this article.«»bd(talk stalk) 01:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean your sick of taking it out? This is NOT the same picture that we were originally debating over. Remember? The old picture was of Cena and HBK together and that was ALOT worse. This is actually an average picture. Remember how bad this picture was.Writer1400 (talk) 01:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

text: It's not the same picture, but it's just as bad. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, in the new picture you can see Cena's face clearly, and you can clearly see the two titles. At LEAST put it somewhere else in the article, maybe in the championship section or something, the picture shows an importnant accomplishment. And I did NOT take the photo, I don't know who uploaded it but it's a good photo. Writer1400 (talk) 01:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What does this image add to the article? Why do we need to show him holding two belts at the same time? What does that accomplish? That he was champion is noted, multiple times. This isn't a gallery, it's supposed to be an encyclopedia article. The images displayed are supposed to actually get something across to readers: what he looks like, what the FU looks like, what the stupid Word Life hand thing looks like, what the STFU looks like, how he changed from 2002 to 2007, in what way does him holding two belts fit in to that?«»bd(talk stalk) 03:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The image does get a point across, it shows him as double champion. If that's the case, then your basically saying that there's no need to have an image of him with the US belt or the WWE belt either. Writer1400 (talk) 13:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm placing both for deletion.  Speed CG Talk 17:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo of Cena as both tag champion and WWE Champion

message: Was he ever called 'the Marine' on a consistant basis? I realize he was in the movie where he played a marine, but did he ever refer to himself as or did JR call him 'the marine'? --Endless Dan 15:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This never happened to my knowledge.  It is not one of his nicknames. --Naha|(talk) 16:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I thought. I didn't want to remove it and start war of words with the editors on here.--Endless Dan 16:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, never was a nickname, you were right Dan (and Naha). Don't know why it was really even there in the first place... Bmg916Speak 16:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicknames

message: should it be said that what Cena said on CNN was true and that he just fuck up and made a fake CNN interview to cover WWE ass  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.122.70 (talk) 13:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CNN

message: Since we're aiming for 100% accuracy, in that section, it says John Cena is left handed and only one photo is used as a source. One photo doesn't prove anything, how do we know Cena isn't "mixed handed" like Shawn Michaels and he just happened to use his left hand for that picture? 
I know it sounds petty and he probably is left handed but we can't take chances. We need at least three photos for sources.
Also, it says Cena favors his right arm in the ring, there's no source for this, how are we supposed to know that this is true?
Writer1400  —Preceding comment was added at 23:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I somehow missed this until it was vandalized and fixed. I can look for more images of him writing with his left, but citing that he uses the right in the ring would be really difficult outside of just using a whole match.«»bd(talk stalk) 00:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was wondering why no one replied to this, see if you can find a few more photos. Writer1400 (talk) 21:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Source? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Personal Life section needs fixing badly

message: The section skips everything from may 2003 until janurary 2004. What about his match at survivor series 2003? It's important because that was the beginning of his face turn. Writer1400 (talk) 14:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did he win the match? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes he did. He and Benoit were the last survivors and after that, he became a face. 99.243.86.204 (talk) 18:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the survivor series definitely needs to be noted. 99.243.86.204 (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The 2002-2003 section is missing alot of important information

message: How come the section is so small and as soon as I add some new information with sources, it's automatically taken down? Writer1400 (talk) 17:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The information you added is already in the article in a more appropriate place.«»bd(talk stalk) 17:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't there anything we can add? I'm sure we can find sources. It looks like a trivia section the way it is now. Shawn Michael's personal life section is so big, there must be some way we can do the same for Cena's. Writer1400 (talk) 17:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course more information can be added, why wouldn't it? As long as it's notable and sourced go for it.«»bd(talk stalk) 18:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Heavy vandalism. SexySeaShark 17:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why can't we expand the personal life section?

message: Above it says that this should not be an forum piece(and I agree with that sentiment)in order to remain encyclopedic. However... John Cena's limited move set is notorious, and there is lots of evidence for criticism of his wrestling ability (or lack thereof). There is also much criticism of the "superman" persona that WWE have written for him. His return at royal rumble 2008 is a great example of that! I really think that these comments should be sourced and included in the article in some form to give a more rounded view of Cena. At the moment it reads a bit "fanboy"ish. Sparkyboi (talk) 22:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with that is that there is no reliable source for that sort of thing, though the vast majority of online wrestling fans agree with it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I find it funny that Bret hart had his own Five Moves of Doom, yet no one talks about those. Blacklist (talk) 06:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's where the phrase originated, but that has nothing to do with the article.«»bd(talk stalk) 21:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 5 Moves of doom

message: He chose to face Orton at No Way Out. Add it!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.40.27 (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And? It's not all that notable until it happens. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2008 still needs to be altered somewhat because the way article is currently written is misleading. It implies that his title shot he earned at the Rumble will take place at Wreslemania (which is simply not true). Notiablity is important but I don't think it takes precidence over factual accrury. I think a brief addition stating that Cena decided to have the match at No Way Out instead is appropiate in this case. --70.48.111.185 (talk) 03:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't add matches that haven't occurred yet. SexySeaShark 17:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't have to add the match. However, since no one appears to have a problem with the article stating he earned a title match at WrestleMania, there should also be no problem with stating he forfeited this opportunity for a title match at No Way Out. This has occurred and is notable. Thus, either both events or neither event should be mentioned. --Chrysaor (talk) 05:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He didn't forfeit his opportunity. He just decided to use it at No Way Out instead. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken.  --Chrysaor (talk) 13:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't see why when someone does something as (comparably) insignificant as winning entry into a future match such as the Money in the Bank Ladder Match, it's worth mentioning on each of their pages, but when someone wins a special entry into a triple threat championship match at Wrestlemania, it's not. 3pointswish (talk) 00:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I thought it was "Liz". SexySeaShark 17:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

text: 2012 wtf? (i think someone vandalized the talk page, how funny...) 3pointswish (talk) 01:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

text: No, cause that's a future event. And it goes by WP:PW consensus. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 04:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, because it's a significant event. People who're set for the money in the bank match all have it on their pages, and that's much less important than a title match. 3pointswish (talk) 23:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about the MITB, but all I know is that we can't add future matches to the articles. Including this one. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hello???

message: I don't know much about this yet, but apparently Jon Cena has been announced to be the man who will play The Terminator in the upcoming 2009 Terminator movie.
Feel free to do some research on this, guys.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.169.119 (talk) 04:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Terminator 4

message: "Untouchable but forcing you to feel me."  Uconnstud (talk) 19:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 1). YouTube is not a reliable source, and 2). What does this have to do with the article? --LAX 19:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not a forum. --LAX 20:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rap Quotes 

message: Those who actually watched it then know. If you get off on striking everything down for imagined "power," remove this, just like the Death Valley Driver listing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max85 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: IT was removed because using a move for a month is not notable to be added to the article as a signature move. If he used it for at least half a year then yes but for about a month is not notable.--TrUCo9311 21:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena used the Death Valley Driver in spring 2003 

message: That was his theme music in OVW so shouldn't that be included?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.212.34 (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source? --Cheers, LAX 19:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Per WP:RS, YouTube is not a reliable source. --Cheers, LAX 05:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say that?«»bd(talk stalk) 13:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

text: If you were to look at the article, he lives in Tampa, Florida. --Cheers, LAX 23:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: John Cena's Theme Music

message: I removed the following item from the top of the page.
Chinman93 (talk) 17:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Vandalism reverts are always appreciated. If you interested in pro wrestling their is a Professional wrestling Wikiproject. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed an item. 

message: In the 02-03 section, it mentions Mr. McMahon as CEO. Isn't his wife CEO, and he's Chairman? They're different things. 3pointswish (talk) 07:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch«»bd(talk stalk) 22:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I may be wrong, but... 

message: Mention that he's going to be at Wrestlemania 24 going against Triple H and Randy Orton in a Triple Threat Match for the WWE Championship!
I'm surprised its not even mentioned yet...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SolidNinjaSnake (talk • contribs) 17:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a news site. –Cheers, LAX 17:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrestlemania 24 

message: Shouldn't Cena's Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards be listed? They're listed for all the other wrestlers, and Cena has one many, especially in 2007, and they deserve to be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OgRe (talk • contribs) 
:There was a consensus to only add the notable ones. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That, I have no idea about. You would have to bring it up here. Also, please sign your post with four tildes (~~~~). --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards 

message: I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure that John Cena did not appear on Family Feud. Can that be removed?Chaingangsoldier207 (talk) 19:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Has been removed. Thank you for pointing that out. Zenlax T C S 20:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I took it out once before, don't know how it got back in.«»bd(talk stalk) 20:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family Feud 

message: Along with his various other PWI Awards, Cena also lost PWI Match of the Year in 2007 for his match with Shawn Michaels on Raw on April 23, 2007. 75.107.217.175 (talk) 07:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why should it be mention? SexySeaShark 13:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why wouldn't it be mentioned? Other #1 PWI awards are. Added.«»bd(talk stalk) 17:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

text: It's an award issued by a dirtsheet. Not notable. Killswitch Engage (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Was there a consensus to remove it from the Cena article? Zenlax T C S 20:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PWI awards have been on this, and other, articles for quite a while, don't just go removing them because you think they don't qualify. If you have a problem with them take it up with the project, they love wielding power.«»bd(talk stalk) 21:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See, this is why we are mentioned at WP:LAME. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it? The project claims to want to make things consistent across wrestling related articles, if this isn't a prime example of what should be decided by the active members as a whole I don't know what is. «»bd(talk stalk) 03:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. When you can give me a good reason that dirtsheet awarda are notable, let me know. Killswitch Engage (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave it on the project.«»bd(talk stalk) 20:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. That's why the project was created for. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PWI Match of the Year Award 

message: Shouldn't it be noteworthy that Cena has been heavily jeered by the fans, despite being a face? It's been going on for a long time, now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockntell (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is noted. SexySeaShark 16:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeering 

message: fatal four way backlash
cena was defeated at backlash by a running punt to the head after making jbl tap out with a stfu. then pinned by orton. kayfabe revocering form injury he returns and gives regal advice on how to be a better gm and has a match with orton for the main event. after going to far with regal earlier a new referee is announced in the middle of cenas and ortons match jbl comes in and cena startspummeling him and orton until theyn team up and he is the games music starts playing and he helps cea jbl and cena are out of the ring win asteal cage descends and orton and hhh stare at each other as hhh stands atop the steal cage  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.62.217 (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh my, First off, please sign your posts. Second, please use proper grammer, spelling, capitalization, and punctuation; as if is very hard to read that comments. Third, none of that information is notable to Cena, as he did not win the match at Backlash. Since he did not win, it is not notable, neither is something that happens between Orton and HHH, that doesn't even involve Cena. King iMatthew 2008 10:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

text: No, it isn't, because it isn't real. All WWE title matches are not notable. We don't list every title shot from Raw, and just because it's on a PPV doesn't suddenly make it more notable.«»bd(talk stalk) 02:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

text: WrestleMania, however, is 1000x more notable than Backlash. King iMatthew 2008 20:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Like IMatthew stated, it is relevant to include the fact that Cena took part in the Triple Threat match at WrestleMania. His participation in Backlash, however, does not seem notable to include into the article. Zenlax T C S 20:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, adding results is week by week non notable cruft, as it has no effect to his career.~SRX~ 20:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

text: It is not notable whether if Cena and JBL will continue their feud after Judgment Day. Zenlax T C S 20:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  fatal four way and 2 weeks later on raw 

message: i don'i remember the name but Cena often Uses the spin out powerbomb,  before the five knukle shuffle. If we don't know the name (I remmember only protobomb), we can list the move only like spin-out powerbomb. If you go to Powerbomp page, you can find the reference to Cena's Move. According to this page I name Cena's Move Killswicth. Only for example recently the move was used in a tag-team match with Triple H against Orton & Kennedy (see You tube and don't remove the move) 
Dave.01 16.11 Italy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave.01 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't seem notable to add right now. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protobomb/Killswitch aka spin-out Powerbomb 

message: at judgement day 2008 one of the announcers stated cena was i belive 5 and 0 at the pay per view cena won that night so that make 6 - 0 i think its worth noting  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.6.119 (talk) 22:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  judgement day 

message: Could we include a section about his unique entrances? Judgement Day 2005, truck w/DJ; WM22, limo, guns; WM23, crazy mustang driving; WM24 band playing his entrance music... --WWEluvr (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:N, no. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Let me get this right: The article can talk about his so-called FASHION, but not his entrances? --WWEluvr (talk) 17:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I guess so. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How is an entrance notable? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to YouTube and watch his entrances at the events I listed. You'll figure it out. --WWEluvr (talk) 00:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I thinks it's already been said; No. --LAX 18:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entrance 

message: Who put semi-protection on the article? The King Gemini (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An Admin. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection 

message: It should be John or Jonathan? Since John is the short name of Jonathan, should be like that or what?--Miss Lindsie (talk) 06:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It should remain John per the source. Not every John is a shortened Jonathan. I myself have the first name John, which is my full first name, Johnathan appears nowhere on my birth certificate. Cena may be the same case. Or perhaps the source is wrong. But we must go per the source. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena's first name 

message: what about the storyline wuith Mickie James —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.76.117 (talk) 02:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, doesn't seem notable to include. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it does. --WWEluvr (talk) 13:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

text: No, it doesn't. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it DOES. --WWEluvr (talk) 02:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: No week by week. Only if something big happens. Like she is going to have his baby or something stupid like that.--WillC 02:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if its like a Katie Lea and Paul Burchill sort of thing. Til then, its not notable to include. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Sarcasm will get you nowhere. We wait until a major storyline happens. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, thank you Darren. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: A program that takes a few months1362talk 13:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mickie