Talk:Sawing a woman in half

message: There's a video of Criss Angel's "pulling a woman in half" trick at metacafe and commentary at Museum of Hoaxes (which in turn cites Snopes). I tried to add a citation to the article itself, but I don't understand Wikipedia's instructions for citations. I'll try to figure it out, but here's the information in case I can't. Bradd 23:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criss Angel performance 

message: As I said I would, I've done a bit of work re-jigging the article. Hopefully the article structure is now a bit clearer - especially in terms of explaining that we are dealing with a group of illusions that differ significantly and not one single illusion. 
Although I'd normally begin an illusion article with a description of the effect I think in this case that it's best to begin with the history section, because the context it provides is useful to understanding the rest (the "history" section is based on the old "origins" section). 
I think the history is the part that needs most work - ideally it should continue on from Goldin and show when the other versions of the trick were created (and by whom). When I have time I might incorporate some of the stuff from the Goldin article about his various legal battles over sawing. I don't think the history text needs to contain detailed descriptions of the effect as that seems best covered by the separate section - the history text only needs to point out any significant features or developments. I've created an "effects and variations" section and added descriptions of different versions. I think there are now at least basic descriptions of all the main versions - but obviously if anyone else knows of other versions then they are welcome to add. 
Some of the text from "famous performances" has been moved into the "effects and variations" section because that is really what it was about. I think famous performances should concentrate on specific incidents or shows. So the detailed description of the Selbit sawing belongs in the "effects and variations" section but it would be good to have something about his first performance and its impact in the "famous performances" section. Perhaps Richiardi's performances of the buzzsaw should be covered under "famous performances" too.
What do you people think?
Circusandmagicfan 09:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The future

message: I've found a reference  which seems to say Jan Glenrose was the partner of magician Fred Culpitt, who is notable as the first magician to appear on a regularly scheduled television show. Does anyone know if this is the same Jan Glenrose who performed in Selbit's December 1920 demonstration of the sawing illusion?
Circusandmagicfan (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jan Glenrose 

message: There were only three entries in the famous performances section.  Should the Paris Hilton entry count as the fourth?  I say no, it is one of hundreds of TV celebrity illusions. Bkatcher (talk) 04:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Absolutely nothing to distinguish this from almost any other celebrity sawing stunt (and Paris Hilton's celebrity is so fatuous she barely counts as anything special). Circusandmagicfan (talk) 16:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Paris Hilton Sawing

message: An article like this definitely needs a section (or at least a mention) of some/any incidents in which the trick went wrong and someone was accidentally injured or killed. It is not unreasonable to assume that it has happened at some point, so it makes sense to mention it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Synetech (talk • contribs) 19:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have an incident in mind?  I've never heard of accidents performing this trick. APL (talk) 23:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the trick usually involves dummy legs or having the assistant in another part of the box, it would seem an injury would be unlikely. I've been a fan of this illusion for thirty years and have never heard of a real injury. Bkatcher (talk) 01:00, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accidental injuries 

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