Talk:Raions of Ukraine

message: I suppose it's a good idea to name rural raions withot a suffix -skyi using <Center_name Raion> format (Znamianka Raion, Boryspil Raion).
But for city raions that don't have formal centers, it's better to leave its adjective form ("Zhovtnevyi Raion", "Babushkinskyi Raion"). --Serhii Riabovil (talk) 07:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raion names 

message: #"LCS check" made a meaningless oppose comment ("Why change a settled thing?"). That is not a way to properly discuss. Facts for /why/ to do it have been presented.
#Other opposing user wrote: "huge waste of time" - that again is not a counter argument if WP policies have to be applied. Instead it should be said, why - based on policies - the current name should be kept. 
#To the contrary, the supporters cited policies, WP:UE, WP:COMMONNAME and made an analysis of how the naming is done for other sets of subdivisions.  Aleksandr Krymsky (talk) 01:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As I tried to indicate in the closing comment. The next step is to examine reliable English language sources to find out which is the most prevalent usage. I looked at the various google results which were messy. For example in  many sources used of districts in a more general sense.--Salix (talk): 07:23, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

text: *I suggest we put this naming aside and rather work on writing articles as we came here to do. A name is a name, what difference does it make? I'd rather have good content and a different name rather than poor content and the "correct name" (depending what side you are on...) I suggest you divert your efforts elsewhere rather than attempting to change a settled thing, wasting time moving articles of raion to district.   DDima 20:37, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Closing contested

message: We live in the country not kraia, city not misto, district not raion! Please, rename this article into Districts of Ukraine. It's official term used by Ukrainian media and government. Raion is incorrect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolomiychuk (talk • contribs) 06:16, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the point of that since they are planned to be replaced by United territorial communities? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:55, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming into Districts of Ukraine 

message: I think that it would be better to split this into two lists like in Ukrainian wiki: List of raions of Ukraine (:uk:Список районів України) and List of raions of Ukraine (1966-2020) (:uk:Список районів України (1966-2020)) --Atsd (talk) 13:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This would be ok with me, as soon as the new article mentions the fact that Crimea and DNR/LNR continue to use the old divisions.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ymblanter, that is not correct de facto, and not fully correct de jure. De jure: If you read text of the Resolution (пункт 7 в конце) there it writes only about Crimea. Thus in Donbass de jure there are already new raions. De facto  both Russia in Crimea and DNR/LNR changed the old divisions that were used before 2014 to the new one (Ukraine does not recognise those changes of course.) --Atsd (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I only mean de facto. The Republic of Crimea is using exactly the same divisionsas were used by the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and I am not aware of the changes in DNR/LNR (though I could have missed these).--Ymblanter (talk) 08:31, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ymblanter, for the Republic of Crimea see :ru:Административно-территориальное деление Республики Крым#После 2014 года and those are not the only change which Russian did in the divisions of Crimea. For LPR see :ru:Административно-территориальное деление Луганской Народной Республики and :ru:Луганская Народная Республика#Административно-территориальное деление. For DPR I can not find right now the links, but they also made some changes. --Atsd (talk) 09:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am sorry but whoever has written this piece in the Russian Wikipedia apparently does not understand the difference between municipal and administrative divisions. Here, for Russian subdivisions, we use administrative divisions (and comment if there is a difference with the municipal ones). Ukraine does not have municipal divisions.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ymblanter, I checked the sources and yes, you are right about Crimea. But for Donbass it is not true both de facto and de jure. --Atsd (talk) 12:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is quite possible (indeed, some districts were split by the front line and it is not practical to continue using them). Just commenting on this should be good enough.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting proposal 

message: There needs to be a section on what administrative tasks/responsibilities/competencies these raions have left. Across many articles on Ukraine, it's continually mentioned that the communities are taking over most of the administrative tasks of districts, but it's never explained what powers they have left. Also, if their councils have been abolished, this needs to be included to inform that these are no longer local governments. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tasks 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Odessa § Requested move 11 July 2022.  Rei (talk) 00:24, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[:Talk:Odessa#Requested move 11 July 2022|Talk:Odessa §&nbsp;Requested move 11 July 2022]]