Talk:William Nelson Page

message: We really need a photo of William Nelson Page. That is the biggest thing lacking in this very comeplete article. Help, anyone? Vaoverland 09:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been advised a photo will be available within 60-90 days. Meanwhile, any other would be great.  Mark in Historic Triangle 14:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE: There was a delay on permission for the photo, but it is still in the pipeline to add. Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

text: He seems to have been married(didn't look close enuf), and may have written a book, which I'm still trying to track down.(guess not, an unfortunately common name) BTW, you can sign your entries on Talk and 'backend' pages by typing ~~~ and add a time stamp using ~~~~ instead. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: This seems to indicate he had a female relative named Mary, but its not clear if it's sister, wife, or daughter. Seems like worth contacting to see if they can clarify, and if any pics/paintings of him are included in the documents. Also, if you search amazon.com for his full name in quotes, you get two books--might be worth trying to find them in a library, and/or contacting the authors to see if they can help with either issue. Great job merging the battle info into the battle article, BTW. Niteowlneils 15:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Lead section has been enhanced, references section added, and improper capitalizations in headings corrected User:Vaoverland
*Support. This really does look impressive and it's well written. The objections above seem to have been addressed, the references section is truly impressive now! One comment, I'm unfamiliar with the history, but there seems to be a lot of adjectives used in headings and text, are these generally NPOV?
*Support - very impressive - ZayZayEM 08:42, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Since they are not being voted on, this is NOT an "oppose" issue, but ideally some of the articles it links to, and the way they are linked could be tidier. I cleaned up Virginian Railway a bit, but, for example, Chesapeake and Ohio Railway has a 'missing image' message, and many links are to redirect pages (eg City, ST, instead of City, State), and at least some are to disambiguation pages (EG New River). I'll try to work on some of these issues myself, but given my short attention span, I'm not likely to do them all. I've looked at them all and tweaked the ones I had issues with, except I didn't look at any city/county/state page as they are very rarely problematic. I noticed you've worked more on some, as well. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: That said, I think Wikipedia is MUCH better served by people like you that contribute a smaller number of very high quality articles, rather than the recent trend towards contributing dozens, or even hundreds, of 6-10 word articles. Niteowlneils 23:36, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: He seems to have been married(didn't look close enuf), and may have written a book, which I'm still trying to track down.(guess not, an unfortunately common name) BTW, you can sign your entries on Talk and 'backend' pages by typing ~~~ and add a time stamp using ~~~~ instead. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: This seems to indicate he had a female relative named Mary, but its not clear if it's sister, wife, or daughter. Seems like worth contacting to see if they can clarify, and if any pics/paintings of him are included in the documents. Also, if you search amazon.com for his full name in quotes, you get two books--might be worth trying to find them in a library, and/or contacting the authors to see if they can help with either issue. Great job merging the battle info into the battle article, BTW. Niteowlneils 15:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo needed

message: This was a self-nomination for featured article. I have been working on research on Col. Page for several years. This remarkable man was cofounder of the Virginian Railway. While Col Page's partner, millionaire industrialist Henry Huttleston Rogers, has received most of the published credit for building the VGN over the years, many of us have come to realize that Col. Page's role was a crucial portion of their partnership. It is a pleasure to record add this man's story (and that of the building of the Virginian Railway) to Wikipedia. 
The information used in the article has been reviewed for accuracy and improvements by members of Virginian Railway (VGN) Enthusiasts yahoo group, which has over 750 members and includes authors and historians. I got a lot of help on content, but I am still learning how to write for Wikipedia, and appreciate suggestions and/or edits by others, and will try to respond to objections. 
On this page, I will try to copy various threads from other pages will be copied here regarding changes and research items not used in the article, but possibly helpful for background. 
[user:vaoverland].
I have searched far and wide for a photo of Page, without success to date. Thanks for all the help, suggestions, and encouragement in making this and the other articles more accurate and easier to read and work with. [user:vaoverland].
:He seems to have been married(didn't look close enuf), and may have written a book, which I'm still trying to track down.(guess not, an unfortunately common name) BTW, you can sign your entries on Talk and 'backend' pages by typing ~~~ and add a time stamp using ~~~~ instead. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to indicate he had a female relative named Mary, but its not clear if it's sister, wife, or daughter. Seems like worth contacting to see if they can clarify, and if any pics/paintings of him are included in the documents. Also, if you search amazon.com for his full name in quotes, you get two books--might be worth trying to find them in a library, and/or contacting the authors to see if they can help with either issue. Great job merging the battle info into the battle article, BTW. Niteowlneils 15:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Lead section has been enhanced, references section added, and improper capitalizations in headings corrected User:Vaoverland
*Support. This really does look impressive and it's well written. The objections above seem to have been addressed, the references section is truly impressive now! One comment, I'm unfamiliar with the history, but there seems to be a lot of adjectives used in headings and text, are these generally NPOV?
*Support - very impressive - ZayZayEM 08:42, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Since they are not being voted on, this is NOT an "oppose" issue, but ideally some of the articles it links to, and the way they are linked could be tidier. I cleaned up Virginian Railway a bit, but, for example, Chesapeake and Ohio Railway has a 'missing image' message, and many links are to redirect pages (eg City, ST, instead of City, State), and at least some are to disambiguation pages (EG New River). I'll try to work on some of these issues myself, but given my short attention span, I'm not likely to do them all. I've looked at them all and tweaked the ones I had issues with, except I didn't look at any city/county/state page as they are very rarely problematic. I noticed you've worked more on some, as well. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: That said, I think Wikipedia is MUCH better served by people like you that contribute a smaller number of very high quality articles, rather than the recent trend towards contributing dozens, or even hundreds, of 6-10 word articles. Niteowlneils 23:36, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: He seems to have been married(didn't look close enuf), and may have written a book, which I'm still trying to track down.(guess not, an unfortunately common name) BTW, you can sign your entries on Talk and 'backend' pages by typing ~~~ and add a time stamp using ~~~~ instead. Niteowlneils 04:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: This seems to indicate he had a female relative named Mary, but its not clear if it's sister, wife, or daughter. Seems like worth contacting to see if they can clarify, and if any pics/paintings of him are included in the documents. Also, if you search amazon.com for his full name in quotes, you get two books--might be worth trying to find them in a library, and/or contacting the authors to see if they can help with either issue. Great job merging the battle info into the battle article, BTW. Niteowlneils 15:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [[William N. Page]]

message: Some issues:
#Page is considered one of the more energetic and successful men Considered by whom?  We need a quote, or at least attribution.
#posing as fishermen (on a Sunday in February!) For those of us ignorant of fishing practices in Virginia, why is this surprising?  Is it relevant?
# When they later learned of the encirclement at Norfolk by Col. Page and the Tidewater Railway, the N&W management must have felt much the same as General George McClellan had after Confederate J.E.B. Stuart's daring and famous cavalry ride completely around the Union's large siege force during the nearby Peninsular Campaign during the US Civil War just over 40 years earlier: The move was so bold that neither saw it coming. I removed this, as it gives us no information about Page or the railway; if we need an illustration of Page's boldness, can we find a quote from someone? 
# It is believed that one of the factors in selecting the location was that the brand new Virginian Railway transported the high quality smokeless West Virginia Again, believed by whom?
# NS today uses it to help compete efficiently in the intermodal transportation markets of the 21st century  What is an intermodal transportation market?  Does this sentence mean anything other than that the railway company runs trains on the railway? ;)
# the Virginian Railway, has turned out to be a fitting and lasting tribute "Fitting" is POV- we need a quote for this.
Mark1 07:16, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have attempted to address each of the items listed. Please review and advise if they still would benefit from more changes. Thanks. [user: vaoverland]08:33, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: I will rework this. Vaoverland 18:29, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. I finally broke down and went to the library to try to confirm the wife. Found an entry for him in Who Was Who in America, which confirmed he married that Gilham gal. Put a few other things from the entry in a variety of places. Oh, I do have the names of their children, if anybody thinks they're relevent. FWIW, Who Was Who says page 'Built and operated Victoria Blast Furnace. Goshen, VA 1885-1889, and doesn't mention the powellton bridge. Maybe he did both? Niteowlneils 01:33, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions/comments 

message: Despite the continuing lack of a photo, information has been periodically added to this article, as well as that of his wife and several other related articles. Vaoverland 05:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Continued updates

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