Talk:Peace in Islamic philosophy

message: I need  help from 'elders' to develope it.
thanks!
Zikrullah (talk) 07:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

message: I have added POV for this article, since it looks more like propaganda. Surely, someone can disagree with it. Is there a place to balance this article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Lewison (talk • contribs) 03:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: lack of neutral point of view 

message: I was going to AfD this article. This is all OR (WP:OR), obviously and it was disappointing that experienced users like BlessSins and Aminz are encouraging the new user to improve the article. There's no term such as "Islamic peace", otherwise we could obviously make one on "Islamic violence" and that would get AfD's on this site in 5 seconds. I didnt want to discourage the user by AfD'ing it so quick however if someone wants to do it, go ahead. I'll leave a note at the user's page. Stuff can be merged elsewhere but a seperate article is not justified as the term is OR. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 06:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR 

message: it is the introductory article .u can discuss conflict on jihadZikrullah (talk) 17:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit 

message: The consensus developing on the AfD discussion page seems to be that this page be renamed and no longer speak of "Islamic Peace," but rather the new name for the article.  There doesn't seem to be consensus, however, on what it should be renamed to.  I think that Peace in Islamic Thought works best, although the only other page I can see with similar content called is Catholic peace traditions (these pages should probably have
links to each other).  In any case, I don't know that the AfD will be closed until this article is actually renamed, and so some consensus should be reached on that new name.  RJC Talk 16:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Move 

message: Please specify the part where you claim or observe an OR.
THANKSZikrullah (talk) 05:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: I am clearly  mentioning the topic which is peace in islamic thought means what is  the islamic  idea about peace in the religion.this article  is by no means saying about wether the islam is peace or islam has some resemblance with peace OR 'synonymous with peace,but it is for showing the concept within islam.
so quoting that islam is not peace or what rev. pope say about islam is not peace' may come in the article where it is mentioned that islam is a religion of peace. this matter is discussed in RoP 
.THIS ARTICLE IS CONNECTED TO ISLAMIC THEOLOGY AND IF THERE IS ANY CONTEMPORARY VIEWPOINT sho within islamic theology. as i have seen in wikipedia[i know wikipedia for 8 years] every contemporary viewpoint can be given within the range of topic not from outside
EXAMPLE: if there is a concept of God in islam in an article and you will give atheistic view point it will rediculous.or see if there is any critical point in Catholic peace traditions. thus 
peace in islamic thought  can not mention a contradiction from outside. if you want to show it then please show if there is any dispute within islamic sholars on peace [ OR RROVE IF REV. POPE WAS CRITISING ISLAMIC CONCEPT OF PEACE?]in islam
blessing you Zikrullah (talk) 06:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While "Peace in Islamic Thought" deals with a subject in Islamic thought, it would be a violation of WP:NPOV to address the concept solely from the perspective of a Muslim (especially as there is no single Muslim perspective on this, but instead a multiplicity of perspectives).  Those outside of the Muslim community have also written about the place of peace within Islam and Islamic thought.  One set of opinions about peace in Islam may be correct, another incorrect, but only original research could settle that issue.  As the first sentence of Wikipedia:Verifiability states, "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth."  As such, the Alternative Viewpoints section is both appropriate and (given the tone of the rest of the article) necessary.  If there is not a similar section in Catholic peace traditions, then that is a flaw in that article. RJC Talk 07:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BROTHER  YEHEL GUHAN & RJC PLEASE NOTICE.:[AND OTHER EDITERS] 

message: there is an introduction which indicate if thre is nothing like peace in islamic context. this seems to be preview of the article rather than its introduction and i ask bless sins or aminz to edit it. as iam tired of saying that this article is not  taking islam sa peace but  islamic thought about peace. blessings!Zikrullah (talk) 06:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  introduction of article 

message: this article is based on concept of peace in theological context. so any controversy should not be mentioned in this article as critisizm of islam is already a subject under the topic.
and it should be discussed there. 
please see RoP.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zikrullah (talk • contribs) 08:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  controversies 

message: re this intro:
quotes by Muhammad, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani and Sharafuddin al Nawawi in intro are unsourced, assertions regarding the latter two contradict bulk of traditional interpretations. --tickle me 22:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV/sources 

message: the main value behind wikipedia - neutrality- is being violated  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.117.139.191 (talk) 22:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  why there's only peace in the Islam and not in orhet religions?? 

message: The subject is covered solely from Islamic sources, therefore I doubt that the coverage is balanced. What is more, most of it is based on priomary sources (Quran and Muhammad) and the usage of the works of Islamics scholars is close to none.   Staszek Lem (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2013 NPOV tag 

message: I would like to see the page concept refocused and called religiously supported peace and violence in modern religion.  That way we are encompassing the issue in it's entirety and engaging the concept across the board.  It should be divided into sections according to each individual religion and site examples from recent history.   That being said, good luck ladies and gentlemen; we all need peace, please use this site as objectively as possible. 67.171.249.44 (talk) 10:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A proposal