Talk:Licentiate (degree)

message: "The licentiate will be progressively changed for the 'Bachelor' grade 3-years of study and the 'DEA & DESS' for the 'Master' grade 2-years of study, due to the Bologna Convention."
Licentiates are claimed to be equivalent to masters, NOT to Bachelors, cf. http://www.ects.ch/deutsch/lehre/bologna/schweiz/equivalence.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.201.194.34 (talk) 13:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Switzerland

message: The old, generally 5 years, Licentiate degree in portugal is generally equivalent to a Bologna's Master, It has the same credit units and the same number of years, it can be consider nowadays as one of these new integrated Master degrees. And in many courses students would have to undergo to internships and have a final project exactly like in a Masters degree.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.195.217.51 (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Portugal

message: In the intro it reads: "In some foreign universities it's a degree between that of bachelor and master or doctor.[1]"
Foreign? to whom?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.49.188.27 (talk) 23:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small fix 

message: The intro states "The term may derive from the Latin licentia docendi...". Has this conjecture been made by any kind of authority in the topic? If so, it would be helpful to cite the source and reword the statement to something like, "It has been suggested that the term is derived from the Latin licentia docendi...". Otherwise, I would suggest taking the Latin term out entirely. -Elusive Pete (talk) 01:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Licentiates have been awarded by various academic, professional and ecclesiastical bodies throughout Europe for centuries. It is only in the past century or two that the diplomas have been in vernacular languages such as English. What need is there for "conjecture" that the term derives from Latin? There is more need to differentiate the licentia docendi, which in Oxford and Cambridge became absorbed into the MA degree, from the licentia ad practicandum, awarded by the English bishops and archbishops under a statute of Henry VIII to those practicing various professions, the similar licences in medicine and surgery awarded by the two oldest English universities to their own students, and the diplomas awarded by a host of bodies since then, with or without statutory authority. NRPanikker (talk) 03:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on origin of term? 

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message: I've added bits in two sections about the Licentiate in Mediaeval Studies from the Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies in Toronto.  It's unusual in that it's a postdoctoral degree.  In former times, PIMS used to offer it en route to the discontinued Doctorate of Mediaeval Studies (DMS) degree.  Given its unusual nature as a postdoctoral status, do any of you think it might deserve a separate section, even amongst other Pontifical licentiates?  I'm interested in your thoughts.  Best wishes, Hoktiwe (talk) 22:39, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Licentiate in Mediaeval Studies 

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message: In Brazil, a licentitate is a person allowed to teach. Can it be said that it is a teacher education degree? Mateussf (talk) 19:23, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't think so. Most probably, like in other South American countries, that person would be a licenciate in education or similar.--Bibliotecatdj (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazil - teacher education 

message: It is interesting to notice that a licenciate is an equivalent to a master in Europe. The problem is that a few decates ago the title of "master" was non-existant at least here in my country, Bolivia. For example, I have relatives that after obtaining their licenciate degree they jump directly to the doctoral degree. But now, thanks to American influence there is also the option to go for a master's degree. The problem with these titles is that they do not have a formally established order of precedence. Some universities require you to have a master's degree to study a doctoral degree; others allow you to jump directly to the doctoral degree without a master. The autonomy of universities in this regard should not be underestimated. I don't now if other countries in the region have similar problems though. However I still consider that if the bachelor's degree has to be classified, at least in Latin America, the most appropriate thing would be to classify it as an Undergraduate degree, but an Undergraduate degree that is in a range higher than a bachelor's degree but still lower than the master's degree (I put something similar on the discussion of the Bachelors degree page). I consider that this degree is superior to the bachelor's because generally you have to study for many more years and also you have to present a thesis in front of a qualifying jury. It is inferior to the master's degree because a master's degree is generally considered a postgraduate degree in most universities.
--Bibliotecatdj (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: About the licenciate degree in South America