Talk:Hurricane Frances

message: I would have waited until September 1. But I think Frances has made it clear that it's going to do something eventually. -- Cyrius|✎ 22:54, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm more worried about people littering images around that are going to be of no use once the storm's over. We're not going to want the storm track image in a week, people. -- Cyrius|✎ 11:28, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article 

message: I vote to remove the predicted strom track! It's always out of date, and now the caption and picture are out of sync, too. Let's not confuse people! Awolf002 13:36, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The storm track can be described in the article itself (and can be changed much easier). Mike H 13:37, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
I would prefer to leave it.  For me, the more pictures, the better. --AAAAA 14:32, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: Just as long as people are uploading over the old image and aren't uploading to new file names, I'm not going to argue against it. -- Cyrius|✎ 15:55, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Storm Track 

message: When this article has stablilized and become history, we should use many different versions of :Image:Hurricane Frances track.gif (a pesky gif, should be converted later on too), to illustrate the path as it was expected before and during the storm. ❝Sverdrup❞ 15:01, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Which ones? There's 47 of them on the NHC servers at last count. -- Cyrius|✎ 16:39, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: this one is  good, I think. ❝Sverdrup❞ 17:59, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical record vs News

message: If someone can come up with a GFDL/PD historical track for Frances, upload it over :Image:Hurricane Frances track.gif. The image has been removed because it contains the forecast track which is, surprise, no longer relevant to the article. On the other hand, a historical track would be quite relevant. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:19, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track 

message: Lots of info here, but there's still a lot of work to be done.  The storm history is too long and should be given subsections.  The impact should be separated into impact and aftermath.  Preparations should be extended.  And I don't know what should be done with the humanity section (a similar section was removed from Hurricane Donna). Jdorje 21:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Humanity section should be merged in the impact section. It will not be as a subsection, but in the text itself, fitting in the correct parts of it (I hope everyone undestands what I mean). If this cannot be done, it should be removed bacause a section that is the same as the last one has no sense in an article, and another reason to remove it is because is looks more like a journal than  an encyclopedic article.juan andrés 23:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. — jdorje (talk) 04:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Todo 

message: Hey, since I evacuated for Frances back then, I've got some pictures from then, including one that's of a power outage - fairly striking, candles and people's shadows in the dark. Is anyone interested in using them here? Runa27 01:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, some of them could work. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos from Frances

message: I withdrew the nomination. The article isn't that good. There are no inline sources. It needs a thorough copyedit, if not a full redo. Come to think of it, when I finish Charley, I'll give this a redo. Please don't nominate it until more work is done on the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We all have good intentions, Hurricanehink.  I made the remaining external links which still worked in-line sources.  Someone downgraded it to Start, from B, class today.  It may need some more editing before it returns to B class, such as more references. Thegreatdr 19:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, this one fell down on the list (though FWIW, I said it would be when I finish Charley, so as that's not done yet I'm true to my word). Good work, but IMO such a large topic as Frances needs much more work before B class. Specifically, there are a few unsourced statements, little impact, and no aftermath. I dropped it back to start. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would imagine aftermath will be a problem, since Jeanne followed Frances 3-4 weeks later.  As you can tell, I tend not to write the storm articles.  My only attempt from scratch at an individual tropical cyclone article is Hurricane Flossy (1956).  Normally I just reformat sections and insert extra information when I run across it while researching other more encompassing articles/topics.  Thegreatdr 21:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there'd still be some (like presidential disaster declaration). Unfortunately, such a large article would be a great amount of work, and probably too much for one editor (we all still very much appreciate your work, tho!). A collaborative effort would be better, though based on the history of the project that is extremely unlikely to happen. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be so sure.  The tropical cyclone article has been the focus of collaboration since December, and that's been paying off in the form of a multitude of subarticles being created to help shorten the main article.  Extratropical cyclone mainly required two of us to get it to FA in one month.  =)  Thegreatdr 11:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the core of the project is one thing. Another retired hurricane is another :D Hurricanehink (talk) 14:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, must of the storm history is uncited. Aside from that, the impact definitely needs more info, and there isn't an aftermath section. It might make GA, but for FA it needs quite a bit of work. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are 17 references (some used more than once) supporting 27 sentences.  How cluttered do we need to be with inline refs within the meteorological history?  Thegreatdr (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article Nomination

message: *Miami, FL report
*Melbourne, FL report
*Tampa Bay, FL report
*Peachtree City, GA report
*Charleston, SC report (on tornadoes)
*Greenville-Spartanburg, SC report
*Wilmington, NC report (on tornadoes)
*Raleigh, NC report
*Wakefield, VA report
*Upton, NY report
*Binghamton, NY report
*Binghamton, NY report
These should be included in the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NWS reports 

message: The first landfall in Florida was on unincorporated Hutchinson Island, which is the barrier island east of Sewall's Point, Jensen Beach, Port St. Lucie,  etc. Sewall's Point is west of Hutchinson Island and has no ocean frontage. To make landfall on Sewall's Point the storm had to cross Hutchinson Island first. Sewall's Point was reported as being the first because it is the closest incorporated place. clariosophic (talk) 13:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Landfall in Florida 

message: Hello.I'm going to remove the eyewitness reports and wind observations from the Bahamas and Florida that are in the "Storm History" section.I'll see if they fit into "Impact" sections,but they don't really seem to belong in Storm History,which should only contain the meteorological history of the storm itself.TheNobleSith (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going To Remove Some Eyewitness Reports 

message: The lede gives $12 billion.
Impact says $9 billion.
List of Costliest Atlantic Hurricanes gives $10.4 billion.
Ayzmo (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Costliness? 

message: A lot of information in this article is not sourced and may be in accurate. For example, the article states that..."Frances was the first hurricane to impact the entire Bahamian archipelago since 1866, and led to the nearly complete destruction of their agricultural economy." However, the 1928 Okeechobee hurricane impacted the entire Bahamian chain in 1928, causing severe devastation. If anybody can find sources for any un-sourced information in the article, it would be appreciated. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispuetd 

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