Talk:Charlie Pace

message: Yes, I know the Music theme is a stretch, but I'm not sure whether the info in that section should be deleted as trivial or is really part of an over-arching theme for Charlie. Baryonyx 23:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Themes

message: I removed the speculation that Charlie is based on Naveen Andrews' life. This is neither confirmed nor pertinent, especially since the IMDB trivia page (and interviews with Mr. Monaghan I've read) indicate that the part of Charlie was part of the original show concept, but was re-written from a middle-aged fading star to a 20-something after TPTB saw Mr. Monaghan's audition. Occam's Razor would indicate to me that the character of Charlie is more based on the many other rockers who lived Charlie's lifestyle than on Naveen Andrews. In fact, as Damon Lindelof said at Lost-TV, "And the first thing we wrote for the show before there was even a script were character outlines. Like Charlie, for instance. We constructed him as a has-been musician, late 40s who'd been in a band in the '80s and then Dominic Monaghan came in and read and it was like wow! He was so amazing we changed the character and write for him (Dominic)." This pretty much kills any speculation, IMHO.Baryonyx 07:30, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Trivia

message: The second half of this (In "Adrift"...) really needs to be fixed up a bit... There are quite a few spelling mistakes and it doesn't read well. --Casiotone 14:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the Island 

message: HEY HEY HEY !!! I THINK CHARLIE PACE IS AN HOMMAGE TO KURT COBAIN !!! JUST COMPARE THEIR LIVES AND YOU'LL AGREE WITH ME !!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.204.153 (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the character 

message: In the season 1 & 2 box sets, English subtitles constantly spell the band name "Drive Shaft", not "DriveSHAFT" etc. Has the spelling "DriveSHAFT" (used in all Lost-related articles) been verified anywhere to be the correct, in-canon spelling? (Like some obscure shot of an album cover or band poster in the series which I may have missed.) If so, should there be a notion about the correctness of the spelling versus the one in the DVD subtitles? EDIT: Moreover, it seems both spellings are used in Wikipedia articles - even the DriveSHAFT-section of Charlie's article features a sentence "they won't book Drive Shaft without you." Should we stick to one spelling only? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.112.48.162 (talk) 22:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just a fansite. It isn't affiliated with the show, so I don't know why we're using it's spelling. The spelling actually used on screen has consistently been "Drive Shaft", so I'm going to change it. DocNox 22:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

text: In screenshots from Lost, the band name seems to be spelled as two words. The same goes for ABC's episode descriptions. Whether one word or two, I don't think I've seen it with SHAFT in all caps and Drive in title case anywhere in the show. The most common forms seem to be Drive Shaft and DriveShaft. For what it's worth, Lostpedia decided on Drive Shaft after some discussion. Based on the evidence from the show, I'm inclined to change it to Drive Shaft in this article if there are no objections. kane2742 (talk) 00:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the correct spelling of the name of Charlie's band? 

message: Could a little section be devoted to the number of times he has almost died?  Seeing as how Charlie is apparently "destined" to bite the dust and has a handful of times, I think it would be interesting to include a sub-section list of close calls.  StarIV 08:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential Deaths 

message: There is no mention anywhere of a particular reason for the choosing of charlie's middle name, as there is for the surnames for John Locke or Desmond Hume or Danielle Rousseau.  What's the connection?  Is there some peculiar character trait in the painter that is reflected in Charlie's character, or is it just random?  I can't find any sources on the subject.
:The only connection I can make is to the Dutch painter: Hieronymus Bosch. It's the only other Hieronymus I'm aware of. Is it officially his middle name, though? We only see the name once, during Desmond's "flashbacks" after the Swan explodes. 63.115.56.2 (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Charlie's middle name

message: Should the artile be changed to past tense, now that he's confirmed as dead? I don't really know the policy on this, but if it's worth mentioning, it was changed to past tense on Lostpedia. ɱўɭĩєWhat did I dowrong 16:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure, but I'd say not - keep it in present tense - considering Boone, Shannon and Ana Lucia's articles (just a few examples) are still written in present tense regardless of the fact they've all been dead for quite some time. Theoretically it should be written in past tense but it's in present to maintain consistency throughout the character pages. •97198 talk 15:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tense 

message: Is the section really necessary? I don't think it is at all. The issue will always be original research. It may be addressed slightly in a podcast, but never enough for there to be a whole section on it. I really think it's more in the realm of Lostpedia. Millancad 04:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities to Oasis 

message: I think we shouldn't list him as dead, rather "probably dead" or something like it. Even though Desmond had predicted it, for all we know he could have survived and crawled out the port hole and come back for the 4th season. Maybe it is just wishful thinking, but until we know for sure, I think it should be changed.
Nateabel 05:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I'll change it to unknown. --69.110.18.114 (talk) 05:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death? 

message: Personally, for the sake of organisation, I think DriveShaft alone shouldn't be a section of this article. Rather, I think it would be better if it were rewritten into a bigographical piece and made a subcategory and put under the prior to the crash category.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylar07 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Driveshaft as a Section 

message: The opening paragraph says "Dominic Monaghan was billed as a guest star in season four". Unless I'm mistaken, this is incorrect. Monaghan was still listed onscreen as starring in episode 4x01 (and did not appear at all in subsequent episodes). He was never a guest star. 82.121.238.14 (talk) 12:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, he was billed as a regular for 4x01 but not the rest of the season, as he didn't appear. --CF90 (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status in Season 4 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Driveshaft.JPG

message: Uh, it's since been confirmed that it's Flashforward, not Lost. So I removed it. --CF90 (talk) 13:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return 

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