Talk:Prince Aimone, Duke of Aosta

message: I advise editors to remove the excessive and meaningless text about his 'Croatian Kingdom' and him as a 'king'. It's enough mentioning it in just two sentences like: He was created King of Croatia as Tomislav II by Benito Mussolini in 1941. He never visited his 'kingdom' or like this
:On the same day Prince Aymon, Duke of Aosta, second cousin of the King of Italy, was proclaimed King of Croatia, as King Tomislav I, but the new monarch never entered his dominions. On August 19, 1943, the Duke resigned the throne.
from The Statesman's year-book, New York, 1944.
Most of this his biography is just about two years of his life.--Juraj Budak (talk) 22:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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I have added many more that time and relevent book sources and replaced the inaccurate internet ones. Added the proper name of the office, two royal adjutants, another visit to Croatia, planed coronation and royal estate near Zagreb, etc. Since I have added sources from documents in the Croatian State Archives that describe legal position of his title and ones of Amedeo please first read them! before you engage in correcting them. This is the position on the title:
*15.05.1941. The three laws on the creation of crown of Zvonimir (3 days before Rome treaties!!!)which made Croatia a kingdom, signed by poglavnik Ante Pavelic, min. of domobranstvo Slavko Kvaternik, minister of justice Mirko Puk, minister of interior affairs Andrija Artuković, minister of health Ivan Petrić, etc.Hrvatski Narod (newspaper)16.05.1941. no. 93. p.1.,Public proclamation of theZakonska odredba o kruni Zvonimirovoj (Decrees on the crown of Zvonimir), tri članka donesena 15.05.1941. Die Krone Zvonimirs, Monatshefte fur Auswartige Politik, Heft 6(1941)p.434.
*18.05.1941. Rome treaties three articles in which the third one chooses the new dynastyHrvatski Narod (newspaper)19.05.1941. no. 96. p.1., Public proclamation of the "Nova hrvatska dinastija" (new Croatian dynasty) 18.05.1941.
*23.-28. February 1942. Croatian State Sabor (parliament) which had more of a approval role, approved Aimone Tomisalv II. as king with other decision made by the poglavnik.
*10. September 1943. poglavnik Pavelic terminated ONLY articles that where on borders and military of the Rome treaties. Since the new dynasty is mentioned in article III. it is not terminated.State proclamation, On termination of Rome treaties, poglavnik Ante Pavelić, Zagreb 10. September 1943. (copy in book dr. Marijan Rogić, Pod Zvonimirovom krunom, sources page XXXIV. Munchen 2008.), Zagreb 2007. If needed I can translate the proclamation in whole?
*27. September 1943. Amedeo Zvonimir is born, de jure and de facto prince of Croatia
*12. October 1943. officially king Aimone Tomislav II. abdicated AS! king of Croatia and past the rights onto his son.Hrvoje Matković, Designirani hrvatski kralj Tomislav II. vojvoda od Spoleta. Povijest hrvatskotalijanskih odnosa u prvoj polovici XX.st. (Designated Croatian king Tomislav II. Duke of Spoleto. History of Croatian-Italian relationships in first half of the 20th century), Zagreb 2007.
	
(I will translate the important part)
The regulatory provision on the crown of Zvonimir
*§ 1. Sovereignty (headship) of the Independent State of Croatia is represented by the crown of king Zvonimir
*§ 2. Description of the crown
*§ 3. This regulatory provision enters into force with the day of publication in the Narodne novine (Public newspaper)
	thumb|Aimone declaring stepping down as Italian officer because of his new position as king (Hrvatski Narod br.97., 20.05.1941.)	
Also I would suggest you visit Croatian State Archives, here is the original page of the Rome Treaties from 1941.
http://www.arhiv.hr/cs/groups/public/documents/document/mdaw/mda1/~edisp/web2hdarhivloc005110.jpg
Good books on the subject, with details are:
*Matković, "Designirani hrvatski kralj Tomislav II. vojvoda od Spoleta. Povijest hrvatskotalijanskih odnosa u prvoj polovici XX.st." (Designated Croatian king Tomislav II. Duke of Spoleto. History of Croatian-Italian relationships in first half of the 20th century), Zagreb 2007.
-Croatian author, whole book on the subject of Aimone Tomislav
*B. Krizman, NDH između Hitlera i Mussolinija (Independent State of Croatia between Hitler and Mussolini)
-Yugoslav author, also large number of sources
In conclusion the title was not terminated before Amedeo Zvonimir was born so he held the title crown prince. In Savoy family documents he is styled with the name Zvonimir as a heir, which he does not use now (source Serbian interview with him http://www.pressonline.rs/sr/vesti/Nedeljnik/story/201092/Kralj+Hrvatske%3A+%E2%80%9ENe+zanima+me+kruna%22.html ) Ban kavalir (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
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