Talk:Lord Lovat

message: The higher numberings of the Lords Lovat are not simply used by the Clan Fraser. They are the accepted, commonly-used numberings. I'm not going to try to rename the articles as such, but User:Berks105 has consistently entered a line into the numbering explanations on many pages, to the effect that only the Clan Fraser numbers them this way. That is simply not true. As websites are the only sources which we can all view, I give the following websites, none of which are authored by members of the Clan Fraser, none of which are related to the Clan Fraser, which all refer to the Lords Lovat by their higher numberings. 
*Heraldry Society of Scotland: 
*Am Baile:  
*Newspapers:
::The Independent (London): 
::the Dunoon Observer: 
*The University of Edinburgh: 
*Electric Scotland: 
*Internet Movie Database:  
*Assorted:  
There are countless others. The Lords hare simply referred to by their higher numberings. Please, please stop stating that these numberings are simply used by the clan. If you continue, I will have to assume that either you're acting in bad faith, or you simply don't have the perspective to understand.  Canæn  22:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clearing up: Who numbers how

message: This page might help explain the numbering differences. I think we've been mistaken as to exactly why the numberings differ.  Canæn  00:25, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baronage Press: more numbering

message: Both of these pages   point to the Lordship of Lovat being a feudal title (sometimes referred to as Lord Fraser of Lovat), existing before the Lordship of Parliament (rather, the first mentions it, and the second explains their relevance). This coincides with my own records, and that of the clan. It seems that this bit would be much better suited on this page, than, say, on a new article called "Lord Lovat (feudal title). There simply won't be enough information for an article like that. I'll start gathering a bit more info from books in my collection, and other sites, and add it in soon.  Canæn  00:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, noting the comments about correct numbering on those links, it is quite possible that there are multiple feudal titles; many peers have plenty but as minor to their primary dignity they are often almost forgotten.  The most useful thing here would be something from the Lord Lyon or another official source as to both the Lovat and  Kinnell feudal status. Feudal titles are rendered in a different form so really don't overlap with the peerage titles in a problematic way. Including some mention of any provable feudal titles doesn't seem an issue, we do the same thing on the title page (but not each holders page) for barons who have say a baronetcy. I don't see why feudal titles can't be mentioned as it seem fair. Alci12 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You seem to be much more knowledgable on the matter of Scottish and UK-related titles and whatnot than I am; would you mind elaborating on how feudal titles are rendered differently? Do you mean in how they come about, or how they are referred-to/written, or? I'd be much obliged.  Canæn  06:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Feudal title

message: Has anyone ever heard of Captain Simon Fraser (1773--1852)? He's a Scottish composer and I'd like to create a new article about him and link to it from the Scottish Baroque music page. Could someone tell me how to make the article consistent with existing articles on the Frasers? Willow1729 04:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Captain Simon Fraser (1773--1852)

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