Talk:The Road to Wigan Pier

message: I've removed the spoiler warning because The Road to Wigan Pier is not a narrative work with plot events or twists that are capable of being spoiled. This corresponds with the wikipedia guide to spoilers at Wikipedia: Spoiler warning. Seferin 15:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler removal

message: The discussion of part 2 really does not do any justice to what is still a very interesting and controversial critique of socialism and more particularly of socialists. I am tempted to have a go at a complete re write if nobody objects.Dave59 12:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part 2 

message: "In short Orwell plays the devil's advocate but he also gives the devil all the best tunes."
This doesn't make sense. Devil's advocate argues against a motion. Saying Orwell gave the devil the best tunes, the statement doubly reinforces the negative aspect of the Devil's case, making it tautologous. Reading the passage in context, it appears that Orwell argued Devil's advocate, but retained the best arguments FOR socialism, rather than against it. I'm going to remove the line as I can't get it to parse as correct and still be catchy .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audubon (talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part 2, minor edit for semantics 

message: It may not be particularly “encyclopaedic” but I like the quotes just where they are.
I cannot think of a better way of illustrating Orwell’s extraordinarily direct use of language and hence showing why the book remains controversial and amusing to the modern reader.
There is already a link to a list of quotes but I suspect most people are not going to use it. The list itself used to be very extensive and what it gained in completeness it very much lost in immediacy. (In fact you might as well have just read the entire book!). Looking at it again today it seems to have been edited into non existence.
Dave59 15:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: Quotations wrongly attributed to George Orwell have appeared in buildings around Manchester.  In Urbis, the entrance to the lift reads "Manchester, the belly and guts of the nation" and is cited as George Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier.  This line does not appear in the book and is unlikely that he wrote the words at all.  Yet, the exact quotation also appears on the ground floor wall of The City Tower near Piccadilly Gardens. In 2007 the satirical character of Sleuth on Manchester website Manchester Confidential admitted that he'd made a mistake in providing this quote to Urbis — Sleuth 31/08/07. Sleuth is generally seen to be the alter-ego (if not exclusively) of the editor of the site, Jonathan Schofield.
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--Technopat (talk) 17:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Misquotations

message: I see that this article has now been added to the :Category:History of Wigan. I've never really thought that this book was about Wigan or its history, and reading the section "Book title" only reinforces my view. Any thoughts? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it justify only that one "History of" category? Orwell also visited Liverpool, Sheffield and Barnsley. See, for example, the 2011 The Guardian article by David Sharrock here.  Any objection to me removing this category? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was listening to the radio recently (radio 4 I think it must have been) and it was remarked that people in Wigan still feel ambivalent about the book, that in some way it perhaps denigrated the town? And while it's true he also visited other places , they aren't in the title are they, which carries a particular kind  of weight. I think the category should remain, it's not wrong, after all. 78.147.64.250 (talk) 22:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Wigan 

message: I find that the following long quotation from the lead confuses matter in equal measure to how much light it sheds: 
The book grapples, "with the social and historical reality of Depression suffering in the north of England, – Orwell does not wish merely to enumerate evils and injustices, but to break through what he regards as middle-class oblivion, – Orwell's corrective to such falsity comes first by immersion of his own body – a supreme measure of truth for Orwell – directly into the experience of misery."
Plus the orthography is bizarre, and it's not clear why this belongs in the article (as opposed to something else), either.  — MaxEnt 22:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure that such a long quote is justified in the lead, especially from Margery Sabin who is not particularly notable. But what do you find confusing? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inscrutible quotation 

message: Was in a letter here? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sitwell quote