Talk:Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

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The result of the move request was: Not moved.   -- Calidum 04:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: CBC titles a dab page with content, so it is ineligible unless it is also renamed. This request has been modified to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 00:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Oppose - while CBC is the branding, the full legal name remains Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and that should be the name of the article just as the name of the BBC's article is British Broadcasting Corporation or the article for ABC is American Broadcasting Company. There are cases where we do use the initials such as CBS but in that case the company legal changed its name from Columbia Broadcasting System Inc to CBS Inc in 1974. The CBC has never legally changed its name to its initialism. Similarly, NBC hasn't legally been the National Broadcasting Company for some time. Also, CBC does not have the same recognition internationally and there are a number of other entities that use the CBC initialism. Sowny (talk) 23:46, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: BBC is at BBC, not the full name, and for ABC, both the American and Australian companies have relatively equal claim to primary significance. This issue with ABC is rather unique, and I don't think that's the case for CBC. kennethaw88 • talk 01:29, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: And the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation? Sowny (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Well I don't know about the BBC, perhaps the wikipedia article is wrongly named, but officially the CBC remains the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation so that should be the title. See  Conversely, CBS and NBC officially dropped their original names years ago and adopted the initialisms as their official names. CBS is run by the CBS Entertainment Group which in turn is owned by ViacomCBS - officially there hasn't been an entity called the Columbia Broadcasting System since the 1970s. Similarly, NBC is operated by NBC Entertainment, which is owned by NBCUniversal Television and Streaming and there hasn't legally been an entity called the National Broadcasting Company for decades. However, legally there is a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Sowny (talk) 02:47, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation is also listed at CBC; what's your point? My point is that the comparison to ABC isn't really a good one, because in that case, the usage is roughly evenly split. That is not the case here. For example, here are the relative page views for Canada/Caribbean: . Do you have other evidence that the usage for CBC is not so one-sided? kennethaw88 • talk 04:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You've ignored my main point. Do you have any evidence that the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation is no longer the CBC's legal name the way Columbia Broadcasting System is no longer CBS's legal name? Sowny (talk)
* Oppose Not always known by the initials. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

text:  I doubt that usage of the full name is much different outside of Canada or that usage of the full name outside of Canada has a big impact, see: (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=cbc,%2Fm%2F0hm0k) it is google trends so take it with a grain of salt blindlynx (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Curious. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 September 2020 

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The result of the move request was: not moved.  Andrewa (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Canadian Broadcasting Corporation →  – Although the broadcaster is officially known as the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, it is often referred to as CBC/Radio-Canada because its French networks use the name Radio-Canada. —ÐW(T·C) 21:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for actually making sense! —ÐW(T·C) 04:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  So there should be no article on Wikipedia with the name "Canadian Broadcasting Corporation"?  And what's "Radio International"?  And there is a section in this article discussing the corporation's television assets.  It does not just focus on radio. --  Denelson83  07:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not my point. This article Could probably be a general one about the CBC while the separate media entities could have their own articles. :Radio Canada International is Radio Canada International. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

text: You all just love love this "Denelson83" rando, don't you? —ÐW(T·C) 04:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 July 2021 

message: Hello all,
I am starting on a project to bring improved rigor and evidence to Wikipedia's representations of the bias of major media outlets in Canada. I have started with the CBC. I would like to add some objective perspective to the "Allegations of Bias" section for the CBC page. 
It has been challenging finding solid acceptable sources to allow for evidence-based discussion. I agree some media bias rating sites have very questionable methodology. Media Bias/Fact Check is judged an unacceptable source. AllSides seems more substantial and is not judged unacceptable but does not have a CBC entry.
There are a few surveys, in this case commissioned by the CBC itself and/or undertaken by well regarded external survey groups (such as Ipsos Reid and Abacus) looking into the biases and balance of Canadian media outlets. I would like to make brief summmary reference to them on the CBC page.
I propose an edit to add a summary statement along the lines of the below: 
"Surveys have found a perception of centre-left/Liberal Party bias in the CBC among the Canadian public. "
The statement is deliberately crafted not to say the CBC definitely has a particular bias, but that these sources at least indicate there is a public perception of a Liberal Party/centre-left bias.
I welcome any constructive feedback on the potential sources and edit. My intention is to have greater evidence-based discussion to be able to hold all media outlets to public account. Apologies on any vocabulary or formatting issues. I have only recently joined the editing effort.
Balancingakt (talk) 03:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a great project. Do be aware that there are sources that are not considered reliable. I don't know much about this, but  and   may. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the redirect, Walter. FYI using the same sources, I am working to add similarly structured statements to the pages for the National Post, The Globe and Mail, CTV News, and Global News. I have located those statements in "Political stance" sections on each of their pages, as per the way the Globe's page was already structured. To clarify: I propose to add the statement to the "Allegations of Bias" in the "Controversy" section of the CBC's page, so as to not disrupt the framing and flow of what already exists.Balancingakt (talk) 17:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears no objections. Last call before I execute the edit?Balancingakt (talk) 02:20, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great project, but the people who deleted your earlier edits have not discussed. You may want to  them. I do not see consensus here. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:51, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   last call on feedback or objections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balancingakt (talk • contribs) 21:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Silence is not consensus. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing for CBC Allegations of Bias 

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