Talk:Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War

message: I suggest that the Japanese Wikipedia article be used and have a translator to retrieve information from that Japanese Wikipedia article.  For one thing, the game was marketed exclusively in Japan.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 06:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese/English Translators needed 

message: As of right now, this game, the 4th in the Fire Emblem series, has no official English title. Even though Genealogy of the Holy War is the generally accepted fan translation of the title, I suggest that this article be moved to Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu simply because 1) it's "more" correct than a fan translation, perse and 2) the other untranslated Fire Emblem games are at their Japanese titles. Axem Titanium 02:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the Original Soundtrack from the game. The Obi strip has the title in Japanese characters. But the front of the CD case has: Fire Emblem Genealogy of Holy-War Original Sound version.  I suppose that is the ‘official English title’ if there is one. --Tyrfing 16:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's going to be used, I think "the" should be in the title (as in Genealogy of the Holy War), just so that the title makes sense. The older games have a nasty habit of being inconsistent with English names though. Aveyn Knight 19:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Title? 

message: Since there's already a very long "Fire Emblem Holy War story" article created, I don't see the need for such a detailed story section. 
The last two paragraphs are unneed, we could summerize it as, for example : "From now on, with a small party of retainers and friends he gathered, Sigurd goes to Edin's rescue. This was the very beginning of a succession of events that would change his destiny, as well as his descent, and Jugdral's history itself...". 
I suggest to do a short synopsis of the game's story instead of the current entry in the Story section. --AceNoctali 17:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story section 

message: The possibility of an English release on the virtual console is simply that; a possibility.  And at this time, there is really no evidence that it will happen and is simply speculation.  I mean, it's also possible that this game might contain subliminal messages of Satanism, but it's really not worth it to add that either. Xubelox 04:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One localization problem is that Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War contains a reference to incest. Alvis and Diadora were halfsiblings.  Incest was used to resurrect the dark lord Loputousu. Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones might also contain subliminal messages of Satanism. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 06:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, I just threw the Satanism thing out there as a random example of speculation not worth noting off the top of my head, not because I actually thought there were parrallels to it in the FE universe. Xubelox 14:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been cited that NOA executive George Harrison has commented that there is a possibility that in the future, Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu and other Japan-only SNES games will be localized to the U.S. Virtual Console.  If Nintendo of America elects to localize this game to the U.S. Virtual Console, the confirmation will be mentioned in the article, and the title of this article may be changed to the official Western title.  The names of the characters may also be changed. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 20:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Virtual console release

message: Because Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu was marketed exclusively in Japan, most reliable sources involving the game are written in Japanese.  It is recommended that you have good enough knowledge of Japanese in order to cite the sources.Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 22:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable sources? 

message: Hello. I'm on "What links here" patrol from the Super Smash Bros. Brawl article. Currently the only characters mentioned in the Brawl article are ones who have appeared in the trailers, plus a short mention of Sonic since Nintendo actually has contacted Sega about including him, and this statement is sourced. The Fire Emblem series is mentioned, but only in the context of a new level possibly being from one of the games in the series and in reference to the possibility of more Japan-only characters being included in Brawl.
Unless some sources are provided for the Smash Bros.-related claims made about Siguard in this article, I'm going to remove that section after a week from today. --Sparky Lurkdragon 20:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Section removed. --Sparky Lurkdragon 15:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

text: And he hasn't been, so it doesn't need to be mentioned at this point in time. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 05:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If Masahiro Sakurai elects to have a character or characters from Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu to be playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, then that should be mentioned in the Seisen no Keifu article.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 20:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sakurai has previously stated that he'd like to shy away from Japan-specific playable characters unless the demand for a particular character is too strong to ignore. That being the case, if any Fire Emblem characters appear in SSBB, they will likely be either returning characters Marth and/or Roy, or a character from one of the internationally released titles. Wishful thinking aside, I think we have a better chance of an Ouendan character making it in as a playable character than anyone from the Seisen no Keifu cast.--Hailinel 17:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been said that Sakurai is dreaming of having Sigurd playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  Lip from Panel de Pon, whom I do not want, is also a Japan-specific character.  Ouendan is an obscure Japan-only game, although it was released only two years ago.  It is not as familiar outside Japan as Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu.  Also, according to George Harrison, Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu may be localized to the U.S. Virtual Console service, probably sometime between the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl and the end of the Wii's lifecycle.  With the success of Fire Emblem outside Japan, Sakurai is not against Seisen no Keifu characters being playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 04:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Smash Bros. Brawl. 

message: Is "In various emulations of the game, the script mostly conforms to British English (i.e., it features spellings of words used in every English-speaking country but the U.S.), with U.S. spelling being used only ocassionally.
*Consider armour (not armor), honour (not honor), mum (not mom) et al. However, the American rendition of the word “defense” is used.
*This predominantly British English sets it aside from most other (officially and unofficially) translated Fire Emblem games, which typically feature scripts containing only American spelling." 
Needed? Really Its about an unoffical fan translation and could be simply becuase it was from British authors. Anyone else agree? Thedarksage 01:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Translation 

message: Although I haven't played this game, the pairing system in Seisen no Keifu is, to my understanding, extremely important in terms of gameplay, as the pairs created in the first generation determine abilities/equipment in the second generation. Yet, the article barely makes mention of this at all despite its uniqueness to the series. Someone knowledgeable should add information on this in detail.--Hailinel 05:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I added some things, which I think should be mentioned. However I think more can be added, but it restricted being grouped together with the other gameplay features. Would a seperate section on the Love system be a good idea? Aveyn Knight 18:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pairing/Relationship system? 

message: I am aware that RobJ1981 has been challenging the sub-article Fire Emblem Holy War Story.  This is disapponting to me.  It will result in loss of information on a Japan-only game. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 23:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move it to a gaming Wikia. Somewhere where it's not policy violating. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Storyline 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Seisen no Keifu.jpg

message: I support a merge, and quickly, because this article is just a plot summary, something Wikipedia is not.  --Haemo 21:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you merge the story article, the main article may end up being too long.  I object to merging the story article, because they may force purge of information. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 03:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: A merge is inappropriate. If an article is poor, then clean it up — don't merge it. It's like saying that Great Britain should be merged with Europe if the article was porrly written. Ashnard Talk Contribs 13:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it isn't. The guidelines for writing about real world locations are quite different than the ones for writing about fictional works. Cited from WP:NOT#INFO- Wikipedia articles on published works (such as fictional stories) should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's development, impact or historical significance, not solely a detailed summary of that work's plot. A brief plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger topic. See Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). Onikage725 21:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is rediculous. The article has its own notability. My analogy wasn't comparing Wiki guidelines, it meant "an article's quality isn't justification for whether it should be merged or not". What's the problem? Ashnard Talk Contribs 22:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you talking about Jugdral or the game?? Kariteh 22:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying I support a merge (merged with what?) I'm just saying that Haemo has a point about excessive plot information. It's the bane of damn near every article on a fictional subject on this site. Onikage725 23:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I get that, but I mean merge to where? The parent series article? Onikage725 23:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/general-gaming/91681-fire-emblem-pt-3-the-series-is-awesome-screw-you.html
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14801
I know forums aren't good sources, but has anyone else heard more info on this? The pages have screens if you're interested. 75.107.254.11 (talk) 21:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  DS Remake? 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Ayra. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 19#Ayra until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Dudhhr (talk) 05:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Make it a redirect to Ayra Starr, a recording artist. There should be no redirects to the article where the subject is not even mentioned. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando (talk) 03:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ayra" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]