Talk:French name

message: people in french speaking part of Canada always seem to use as their usual name what in english is the middle name (i.e. the one just before the surname) except for "composite names" [noms composés] which are used in toto. this last one seem to be more popular then in france.
Another thing is that since mariage laws have changed in the 80s in québec, the bride do not automaticaly take the husband surname anymore meaning that the number of childs with 2 surname have gone way up.
I don't know if this would be the place to add this (considering its naming habits *from france*) but since it is related and would otherwise make for a short page, what do people think ?--Marc pasquin 01:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Francophone habits 

message: The legend of the illustration assumes that Talleyrand's family name was "Maury". I think it's a mistake : his family name was...Talleyrand (with Périgord added in the 17th for some genealogical pretentions). Furthermore, Talleyrand was no abbé (abbot : courtesy style for every catholic priest at this time) but bishop. A correct anouncment would have been "mass celebrated by M. d'Autun" (the then correct style for a bishop) or "mass celebrated by Mgr de Talleyrand-Périgord" (the modern style for bishops, wich i'm not sure was used in 1790). This "abbé Maury" could be either a pseudonym for Talleyrand (a pun on his second given name Maurice) or a totally different person. It definitely can't be used as an illustration for the uses of names in France. 194.158.122.145 20:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, it was abbot Jean Siffrein Maury, voice of the Far-Right in the States General, not Talleyrand.I'm removing it 78.232.54.121 (talk) 00:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Talleyrand-Maury" issue 

message: This page provides very little information about French surnames and families. Le Anh-Huy (talk) 21:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What about surnames?

message: I saw a documentary that said family names became obligatory after the french revolution. 
It also said that when deciding for a name to write down in the registry, some complained and the judge (or whatever) wrote those complaints as-is. 
That's why names such as Sean Connery's "Connery"(~stupid,) "Connard"(~bastard), "Merde"(shit) now exist.
Does anyone know this for sure? Have any proof? If yes, it would be fun to mention it.   --ycc2106 (talk) 21:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: fun anecdote 

message: I just want to compliment the author on his introduction of and use of the term "usage name". The family name topic is complicated enough to confuse people here in the US, and the usage name concept could clarify things, such as in the English-speaking section within the article on "Family name" as it now stands.
My compliments to this author!  For7thGen (talk) 19:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage name, and compliments to the author! 

message: any reason why french naming conventions, French Name(s), do not redirect here? 67.176.160.47 (talk) 20:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirects 

message: the naming conventions don't explain this name "Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette" I am guessing this is because of a change in style. If someone could explain the historic conventions behind this name, I would be grateful. I think it would be useful as an example in the article because it is the name of a French person English speakers might know, and is a nobleman. 67.176.160.47 (talk) 20:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historic names 

message: I thought Mme. / Mlle was correct for whatever reason, but I'm not sure, and I never got a good explanation for why / why not... Veled (talk) 17:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The correct abbreviation is Mme and Mlle with the letters ending the word in superscript and without any dot. A dot would be incorrect since, in French as well as in English (British English, at least), you must put a dot at the end of an abbreviation if, and only if, the abbreviation does not end with the last letter of the abbreviated word or expression. The superscript is a traditionnal habit for forms of address in French: besides Mme and Mlle, you can find Dr (Docteur, Doctor), Pr (Professeur, Professor),  Me (Maître, Master, for some legal professions), Mgr (Monseigneur, Mylord, for a Catholic bishop).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.204.16.1 (talk) 12:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which is correct - Mme. / Mlle. vs. Mme / Mlle, and why?  

message: I'm curious as to when a particle becomes part of the surname, par exemple, L'Heritier vs Lheriter or Davignon vs D'Avignon? Is there a rule here or a reasoning behind it or just personal preference?  thanks! [[Special:Contributions/160.39.56.68|160.39.5
In 17th-18th centuries there was no real orthography so anything was possible. When orthography was regularized and became consistant, names may sometimes have been decomposed into its etymon. Davignon was reverted back to D'Avignon. --ThoMiCroN  (t) 06:57, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  when particles become part of the surname 

message: According to different estimations, 50 to 80 percent of French citizens would be the bearers of rare family names (fewer than 50 bearers alive at the census time).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.77.133 (talk) 21:27, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know I did not write it but I suppressed your contribution, that makes a confusion between vernacular surnames and recently imported surnames. In Alsace the surnames are Alsatian, not German (even if Alsatian is a kind of German), that is why Muller is spelled Muller and not Müller. Concerning the Breton surnames, I suppressed it too for the same reason : Breton is of course a vernacular language, but there is another one in Britanny, a Romance one called Gallo and people who speak Gallo are Bretons as well. The subject is the birth in Britanny, not the languages. Otherwise even if some of the surnames were created in Breton language, there were partly frenchified with the French definite article Le to translate Breton Ar. In fact, your idea is that there was only one language in France, Paris French, so only "French" surnames ! for example you could have written behind Roux in PACA : (Occitan Ròs, the original name before Frenchification), etc. That is exactly the same thing. Alsatian, Breton and Occitan, etc.. are languages of France, Spanish and Portuguese not.Nortmannus (talk) 04:07, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  this sentence does not make sense:  

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message: Where are such local names described? Xx236 (talk) 08:06, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guadeloupe, Réunion - names