Talk:AC/DC/Archive 1

message: The AC/DC category is up for deletion. The category is unnecessary -- all the elements in the category are in the article. -- TheBlunderbuss 21:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Deletion 

message: according to this article, the AC/DC was written on a sewing machine, while according to List of band name etymologies, it was on a vacuum cleaner. Who knows? Please fix! — MFH: Talk 9 July 2005 03:45 (UTC)
It was on VH1's Biography of AC/DC.  It was their sisters sewing machine that had ac/dc on it.  In fact according to what Angus and Mal said on this program his first school boy stage suite was made by his sister on this very same sewing machine.  The rumor has always been around that the band are satanists.  Mal put that rumor to rest clearly.  He said, "Me mom would kill me for that!"  So I don't think the good ole' boys from down under worship satan.  It was very informative and enjoyable.  So I hope this may clear up the question.
--Bumpusmills1 01:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vacuum or Sewing Machine? 

message: The AC/DC section is up for deletion? What happened with that? I sertenly don`t see why we shold delete it... Or?
Just the Category, not the Article. Joeylawn 00:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion? 

message: I've noticed that a few of the special 2003 digipak remastered albums are listed, but not all of them. I believe all of AC/DC's international studio albums (Simply meaning not the Australian High Voltage and TNT) are now out on digipak, with the exception of Stiff Upper Lip. This leads me to wonder whether it's typical to list remastered releases by bands at all. If this article were to note all the digipaks and then even previous remasters, it would produce a lot of clutter. I suggest that either the digipaks be removed from the studio album list, or all other remasters be added. While I prefer the former, if it turns out that the latter is more appropriate: please do not forget the fresh October 18 2005 issuing of the Ballbreaker digipak. Thanks to whoever gives this attention. - G R Early --64.217.224.239 16:15, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Inconsistency? 

message: An anon recently added "The first name suggested for the band was "The Razor's Edge" by Cliff Williams, but the rest of the band turned down the name.", which I can't verify but have left in for now. Somebody with more interest in AC/DC please check this. Thanks. Rd232 talk 09:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: In which Scottish city where they born; it just says that they were born in Scotland - but without a city. I would find it very hard to belive that they would all just come from Edinburgh, or Glasgow. --Kilo-Lima 11:36, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  City 

message: I posted here earlier as GR Early about Ballbreaker and the other digipak re-releases of albums. Firstly, I've corrected the date of the Ballbreaker digipak release from November to October 2005. However, I still think the listing of studio albums is sloppy as long as some digipaks are listed but not others. We should really decide whether to show all of them or show none. I would rather not make this edit myself without discussing it.
Also, regarding Cliff Williams suggesting a name for the band, please note that he was not a member of the band until years after it was formed. I have to wonder where you heard this. Decatur 05:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you need to calm the hell down you're rambling on while using vile language. Please read guidelines, like This one; Wikipedia is not a battleground. Insulting people is not gonna help anything.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING(Я) 09:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ballbreaker and Digipaks 

message: Okay, what is the name of the new album coming out? Shock Waves? Get Back To Rock? Why was it taken off the list? - I.P. Guy
I don't know. I check often about the lasest album info on www.acdcrocks.com but it doesnt say. It is in production, but no name yet. Tommygun141 02:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh? 

message: In the Australian listing of albums it doesn't actually show the right covers for the following LPs: "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap", "Let There Be Rock" and "Highway To Hell." The Australian covers for these albums were very different to the overseas ones. January 29, 2006. Peter.
:I think the articles for the Australian albums and the international albums should be combined (with the possible exception of the international version of High Voltage, which is really a compilation) to avoid confusion and present a better comarison of the two versions. ProhibitOnions 12:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album covers 

message: Couldn't we find a more up-to-date picture of the band with Phil Rudd in it? If not, the current band infobox should probably say "Pictured: Former drummer Chris Slade" or the like. It might also help to list the names of the members under the photo; those who are not fans might not know who is who. ProhibitOnions 12:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo has been changed to one which actually shows the current line-up, but it's not very clear - two members are barely discernible.  Anyone got a better photo? Bretonbanquet 13:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band photo features Chris Slade, text box implies Phil Rudd 

message: "Their music is rhythm & blues-based with a higher level of distortion in the lead and rhythm guitars."
"Based" mate, not that they are actually an R&B band. A lot of their music does have undertones from that genere. (USMA2010 23:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh? 

message: How is AC/DC "a pioneer of hard rock and heavy metal music "? Hard rock, yes, definitely, all the way, but since when are they heavy metal? I do have a limited knowledge of AC/DC's full collection of albums and songs, but so far I've seen no evidence whatsoever that they're heavy metal. Could anyone explain to my why they're classified as such, citing specific songs? Otherwise, I'll remove that.Tyharvey313 03:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy Metal 

message: AC/DC is an Australian band.  Having been born in the UK does not mean they are a UK band. They grew up most their lives in Australia and thats where they made it big, not in the UK.  
And as for AC/DC being a band of high distortion levels its just not true.  Read any interview with Angus and he says its straight guitar to amp.  No distortion at all other than possibly tone difference but thats it.
Although commonly referred to as an Australian band (and they may well class themselves as Aussies) it is true that Bon, Angus and Malcolm (and George, 3rd brother and later their producer) were all Scottish and by definition therefore, BRITISH. No argument there then. And Brian Johnson is most definitely British, from my home town of Newcastle England. Phil's an Aussie, so like is mentioned above, lets leave it as 'International'. Kiwichipster 02:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC/DC plain and simple 

message: I think there are AC/DC songs in the iTunes music store, isn't it? At least in the german music store... --Fun-total 15:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it a user doing it? Or is it a BOT fix? (I ask before actually trolling backwards through the edit history) Cheers! Anger22 17:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Someone has to edit that infobox with another one more useful... No-Bullet 22:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

text: It would help if you read: WP:MoS, WP:NPOV, WP:CITE and WP:AWW. All are very helpful when it comes to making meaningful edits(which some of yours are). There are a few other "WP:__" policies that are worth reading along with those ones...but they'll do as a start. Plain and simple...if you are going to try and push flowery, poetic adjectives into any encyclopedia article...it has to be cited. Browse some of the music articles that have achieved "FA" status and you'll see what I mean. If they're not given proper citation, the articles just tend to look more like teenybopper magazine articles or poorly written junior high book reports(which most of them do as it is) Hope that helps. Take Care! Anger22 03:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes 

message: Can someone explain why we keep reverting to an Infobox with practically no information in it?  What's wrong with having the members' names in there for a start - every time I put them in, someone edits them out.  The infobox as it stands is pointless. Bretonbanquet 16:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it a user doing it? Or is it a BOT fix? (I ask before actually trolling backwards through the edit history) Cheers! Anger22 17:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Someone has to edit that infobox with another one more useful... No-Bullet 22:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: Someone tell me why 'legendary' should be a 'point of view' when used as an adjective for Bon Scott? Characterizing Scott as a legend, when it is so widely acknowledged and well known that he has been an influence on everyone from contemporaries like Van Halen, to all three vocalists of Iron Maiden and to even the latest Garage Rock Bands and an icon to generations of fans, born after his passing, is surely not out of place. When Classic Rock Magazine ranked him as number one on the list of 100 Greatest frontmen and celebrated his 25th death anniversary with a cover saying Bon Scott: Hero Icon Legend, it reflected the popular sentiment among the band's fans and Rock enthusiasts in general.Bon Scott has been widely called legendary and charismatic, both of which are arguably points of view.If an editor has no problem with 'charismatic', he/she should not have a problem with legendary.210.211.198.46 03:04, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would help if you read: WP:MoS, WP:NPOV, WP:CITE and WP:AWW. All are very helpful when it comes to making meaningful edits(which some of yours are). There are a few other "WP:__" policies that are worth reading along with those ones...but they'll do as a start. Plain and simple...if you are going to try and push flowery, poetic adjectives into any encyclopedia article...it has to be cited. Browse some of the music articles that have achieved "FA" status and you'll see what I mean. If they're not given proper citation, the articles just tend to look more like teenybopper magazine articles or poorly written junior high book reports(which most of them do as it is) Hope that helps. Take Care! Anger22 03:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bon Scott 

message: Half the bands on that list were well established long before AC/DC came along. Any band that had a career prior to 1976 shouldn't really be on it at all(Scorpions and UFO in particular). As for Rainbow...Ritchie Blackmore's influences are well documented and AC/DC certainly isn't one of them. And Rush were influenced by Cream, The Who, King Crimson + many others...again all well documented...and again, no AC/DC in the list. As for AC/DC being influenced by those particular bands? Angus has stated he could stand Deep Purple or any other band tha played long improvised music because his attention span was too short. It's why he names his influences as being Chuck Berry and B.B. King. The list contained some pretty stupid entries. It's about time someone tried to clean out the junk. If you can find a reference for your POV then fine. But until then, best leave it be. 142.179.103.183 22:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences/Influenced 

message: This had been nominated on 14th May for GA.  The reasons I failed the article are the history section is too long It needs to be broken into subsections.  The Article over all ignores Bon Scotts' death, i know its mentioned but only one paragraph.  Where he's metioned in the Info box it should have Deceased after his name.  The images bouncing from side to side are distracting. Gnangarra 15:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It said 150 million yesterday...so I put that number back. Anger22 09:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed GA 

message: I don't see why there are two band member charts, the color-coded one is fine, the article doesn't need another. I'll take it off unless someone can give me a reason not to.el sand bag 15:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's definitely no need for two. Bretonbanquet 20:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that two charts is excessive, but I see no need to take out the excellently formatted and colored chart and leave the normal one. 66.253.36.140 07:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 Band Member Charts??? 

message: There needs to be a source cited for the idea that Mark Storace was considered for the vocalist's job after Bon Scott's death.  I've never heard that he was, and it's in none of the relevant books.  Anyway, AC/DC always said they specifically didn't want a Bon Scott soundalike. Bretonbanquet 20:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether or not he was offered the job, it never made it to the music press at the time, because they don't mention him as far as I've seen.  Of course, that doesn't mean he wasn't linked with the job, but it would be good to have someone else's word for it other than the man himself.  It could be mentioned in the article that many fans thought he would be a good choice.  There were a couple of other names mentioned at the time by the press - Alan Friar, Stevie Wright for example, that we could mention as well. Bretonbanquet 20:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Storace 

message: Sorry for re-adding the second redundant band box, I tried to re-revert myself but for some reason it wouldn't let me:S HawkerTyphoon 14:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Were you the one who deleted the color-coded one? that one was way more easyer to understand than the one thats left. el sand bag 16:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "rainbow pride" list was certainly unique and artistic. The one thats there now follows a common format found on many Wikipedia music articles. I have not seen any discussion on them in any of the Wikipedia music project discussion pages so I don't know if the "common" format stems from any kind of consensus? If it does then it should be standard throughout all Wikipedia music articles. 156.34.142.158 16:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apologies! 

message: Again, there are two band member charts. Do we need the color-coded one? No-Bullet 21:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that chart is much easier to read, space efficent, and very cool.  66.253.36.140 19:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member charts 

message: The Discography at allmusic.com list the released albums in a different chronological order. The list on WP seems to be more complete, but it would be nice if someone could doublecheck, since AMG is usually a reliable source.
:That list has "Dirty Deeds" released in 1981, as it was in the States.  Everywhere else it was 1976.  It also doesn't include the Aussie "High Voltage".  The WP list is spot on, as far as I can see. Bretonbanquet 23:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Music Guide Discography 

message: i'm thinking we should merge the line-up part of the page to a new page. you know to save room for the page. if you think about, try this link to merge the lineups: current and past group lineups for AC/DC. --Ac-dcfreak785 17:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  how about this? 

message: Why AC/DC doesn't have a template in the bottom of the page like many other bands such as Led Zeppelin, The Who, Green Day, Guns n' roses, etc. ? No-Bullet 18:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because nobody felt up to create one. Feel freeto do so andadd it to therelevant pages. Circeus 07:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC/DC Template 

message: The band member images are wrongly marked as GFDL. Please correct it. --84.168.236.233 14:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong license 

message: kiwiscottishbob 24/01/2011. The home page openening credit that ACDC are an Australian Band is erroneous and needs rethinking.  The following information highlight that Bon Scott felt strongly about his native Scotland along with the Young's. Indeed the Scottish parliament celebrate ACDC place of birth. Wikipedia editors - share the love. Don't you think that People of Scottish background might be a little offended.  Here are the facts.
  
It is an often over-looked fact the the history and success of AC/DC can be closely linked to the country of Scotland. The founding members of the band Angus and Malcolm were originally born in Glasgow and lived the early part of their live there until emigrating with their family at an early age. Bon Scott was also an ex-patriot Scot and was born and brought up in the town of Kirriemuir. At the age of about 5, Bon's family emigrated to Australia in the hope to find a better standard of living. In fact the nickname Bon originates from at first being called Bonnie Scotland. Bon thinking this was too cissy changed the nickname to the shorteened version of Bon. It is noticable that the band pay homage to the land of their birth by the inclusion of Bagpipes in the track It's a long way to the top (If you wanna Rock n Roll). The tracks Fling Thing and the Bonny intro on the live album are also based on the traditional Scottish ballad Loch Lomond. 
26th October 2008
Ice memories for AC/DC's Angus Young
AC/DC guitarist Angus Young has told how the title of their new album was inspired by his native Scotland. The Aussie supergroup will shoot straight to No. 1 tonight with Black Ice. Angus, who formed the band with brother Malcolm, says the title reminds him of early days gigging in winter. The pair were brought up in Cranhill, Glasgow, before emigrating in 1963. Angus said: "It rolled off the tongue - it remindsme of radio warnings up north of black ice. It was deadly stuff." Singer Brian Johnson feared the album would not happen after an eight year gap since their last release. But he added: "On the first track the hairs on my arms stood up. I thought, 'is this a good band or what?'" 
Source http://www.sundaymail.co.uk 
http://www.crabsodyinblue.com/acdcscottishroots.htm
Among the responsibilities of Scotland's devolved parliament are such matters as justice, transport and education. But it has also apparently got a new one – paying tribute to AC/DC.Christine Grahame, MSP for South of Scotland, has filed a new motion entitled AC/DC, We Salute You. And while electricians may be excited at the prospect of celebrating alternating and direct currents, it's not energised matter Grahame has on her mind – it's rock'n'roll."After 35 years AC/DC are still contributing to music and giving fans enjoyment worldwide," the Scottish Nationalist MSP told BBC News. "I think they have long-deserved official recognition from their homeland ... and my parliamentary motion will go some way towards recognising that."The We Salute You motion is intended to formally welcome AC/DC to Scotland, recognise the band's Scottish roots, applaud their growing popularity, and thank them for the inspiration they've given to Scottish musicians.Angus and Malcolm Young, founding members of AC/DC, were born in Glasgow but later moved with their family to Australia, while former front man Bon Scott, who died in 1980, was born in Kirriemuir."It is clear Scott had a strong sense of his identity, from the 'Scotland forever' tattoo he had on his arm to his playing the bagpipes on the AC/DC track It's a Long Way to the Top," Grahame emphasised.AC/DC have sold more than 150 million albums worldwide since forming in 1973. They are to tour the UK next summer, in support of their new album, Black Ice. Grahame is particularly keen for the band to repeat a gesture from 1978, when they wore Scottish football strips at a Glasgow concert."It would be fitting if they were to do the same when the band play Hampden national football stadium next June," Grahame said.In return, perhaps Holyrood's MSPs could don AC/DC t-shirts.--Kiwiscottishbob (talk) 04:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not likely. The band is of exponentially larger notoriety than all other forms combined - the film is by the Band and the technological application is redundant, isn't too likely to have any wide usage at this point, and its conceptual awareness is probably due to the band itself. The other uses are of even lower notoriety. 120.18.245.100 (talk) 15:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ACDC and Scotland 

message: I think AC/DC also is Boogie rock Taro-Gabunia (talk) 03:28, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: This is an earlier performance of the band without commercials.  Just pure AC/DC.  It should be in the external links.  Here is the link: [].  Any objections? It is a tribute to the Bon Scott era. Cmguy777 (talk) 23:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sin City 

message: Hello I came here to clarify that AC / DC has sold 200 million albums as quoted in the biography of the band and the band sold only purpose only, 100 million albums I'm correcting the mistake that was placed on this page from already thank you.
OuvirLer foneticamente  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.111.96.248 (talk) 07:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albums Vendidos 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

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thread_title:  Dead link 2 

message: Hard rock, heavy metal, blues rock, rock and roll
| years_active    = –present
| label           = Albert, EMI, Columbia, Epic, Atlantic, Atco, Elektra, East West
| associated_acts = The Easybeats, The Valentines, Fraternity, Rhino Bucket
| website         = 
| current_members = Angus YoungMalcolm YoungPhil RuddCliff WilliamsBrian Johnson
| past_members    = Dave EvansBon ScottMark EvansSimon WrightChris Slade(full list)
}}
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#Update infobox template see Template:Infobox musical artist.
#Added State to origin location. (This is the only new content added)
#Chronologically ordered associated_acts
#Adjust website to updated form.
#Chronologically ordered current_members
#Chronologically ordered past_members
shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:01, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Shaidar cuebiyar, 30 June 2011 

message: This is really getting out of hand! Who ever keeps removing this album from AC/DC's discography needs to stop NOW! It is a soundtrack album just like Who Made Who. If you don't want to incude it because of it's similarities to combination albums than you must remove Who Made Who and the international version of High Voltage because both fit the same issue. Otherwise leave it be!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westvoja (talk • contribs) 17:57, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iron Man 2 

message: Phil Rudd has lived in New Zealand for couple of decades and based upon wiki editors inconsistent logic about the country of origin for many iconic bands - that makes them a Kiwi/British/Australian band. The Scottish also claim ACDC as their own - and quite correctly, see my previous talk where I cited ample evidence, subsequently removed by wiki editors. Phil is the only Aussie born ACDC band member and a naturalised New Zealander. I have advised wiki readers/editors previously on this matter and inserted publicly available information that clearly states ACDC is not an Australian band - but you guys removed it. Just to be clear about your inconsistent nationality statements - do check out the Bee Gee's site which quite correctly does not claim that the Bee Gee's are an Australian band. The Bee Gee's circumstances are similar to that of the core ACDC members - the Gibb's just like the Youngs and the Scott's are British born and their families relocated to Australia. The Bee Gee's also recorded in Australia and before band members moved back to Britain - just as ACDC did. So how is it that wiki editors state that ACDC are Australian but not the Bee Gee's. Power of the pen I guess. I'll relocate the verifiable information I sourced ealrier this year which the wiki editors removed and I'll attempt to repost it later in the week. Everyones a winner when you get the nationalities correct. (kiwiscottishbob)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwiscottishbob (talk • contribs) 02:21, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All that you have said above may be true, however it is what we call original research. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia (or any encyclopedia)  is verifiability, not truth —whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether people may  think it is true. So basically based on reliable, published sources (as seen below) state they are a Australian rock band.Moxy (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, plus it has a lot less to do with where the individual members were born, raised or live now, and a lot more to do with where the band formed and the country they are associated with. I imagine this is why the sources all state Australia. Anyway, if we simply go on band members' birthplaces and where they are currently citizens of, we'd be looking at a Scottish/English/British/Australian/New Zealand/American band and thus being ridiculous at the same time. The point about the Bee Gees article doesn't really figure. Articles are not required to be consistent across the board, and I'd be willing to bet that none of the editors who work on the Bee Gees article work on this one. Your answer might lie in that, rather than any kind of conspiracy. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ACDC is a Kiwi/British/Australian Band 

message: AC/DC(ESPECIALLY Angus Young) has cited these artists as major influences: Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Led Zeppelin, the easy beats, billie joe williams, the rascals and malcolm young as influences.     — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 22:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The first source is someone else's ideas of their influences, and the second source is not a reliable source. Ideally, it needs to be a link to an interview in which band members directly state their influences. Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences 

message: I note that exactly zero tracks are available *electronically* from AC/DC on Amazon.com, Yahoo music and almost certainly other sites.
Surely this is noteworthy enough in 2012 to merit a breif explanation?71.31.149.105 (talk) 08:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercialization? 

message: I would like to put in the introduction that after the recording of High Voltage membership was NOT stable, as is stated, and that Mark Evans and Phil Rudd were eventually recruited, and that's when membership stayed the same until Mark Evans' departure. Akdrummer75 (talk) 05:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It says that membership stabilised after the release of High Voltage, which is a fact. Both Rudd and Evans joined within a month of the album's release. I've adjusted it slightly, but it wasn't really wrong. Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:02, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I see now, it just wasn't clear before. That's better. Akdrummer75 (talk) 06:54, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lineup changes after ''High Voltage'' 

message: There needs to be a reference for the part in the Dave Evans era section where it talks about AC/DC playing at Chequers on New Year's Eve, 1973, and the entertainment manager being so impressed by them that he booked gigs for them at the Bondi Lifesaver. I'm not sure, it looks like the editor was trying to say Bondi Lifesaver, but the text is messed up. If we get a reference for that, that part also needs to be fixed. If it's the Bondi Lifesaver, than that needs to be put in there. Akdrummer75 (talk) 06:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The text was messed up because someone vandalised it a while back. I've fixed that, good spot. You're right, it does need a citation, and I've tagged it along with the bottom paragraph in that section. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was thinking that bottom paragraph needed a citation also. Thanks man. Akdrummer75 (talk) 06:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Evans Era issues 

message: I think Colin Burgess should be added as a former member, as he played drums on AC/DC's first single, "Can I Sit Next To You Girl"/"Rockin' In The Parlour". Agree or disagree?  Akdrummer75 (talk) 08:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New former member 

message: I am going to remove the parts in the Dave Evans Era section where citations are needed. It's been like that for awhile now and no one has come up with a reference. Does anyone object? Akdrummer75 (talk) 03:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not I. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of citation needed parts. 

message: Hi, can someone who knows please clarify which musicians are playing what, especially the original line-up and brothers.  It would be nice to have a little info on their musical styles and approaches.
thanks
Ben Billyshiverstick (talk) 01:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean just tell you, or you want it put in the article? Akdrummer75 (talk) 09:55, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Plays What? 

message: If You Want Blood ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.60.87 (talk) 22:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently live albums (compilations as well) aren't supposed to go on that list. Personally, I disagree with it, but that's the "rule", it seems. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  albums 

message: It is the second higest selling album in all of history! What the Hell happened? Someone just came in with irrelevant and inaccurate information and suddenly just changed it out of the blue! WTF! Change it back now!71.200.244.226 (talk) 02:16, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back In Black 

message: In the info box on the right, under "genre", it lists heavy metal as one.  I do not really think that AC/DC should be classified as a heavy metal band, only rock and a hard rock.  Norum 16:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I agree with you, AC/DC are not a metal band. But (unfortunately), consensus in past discussions was to have HM in the infobox. Unless enough people want to remove it, thus changing consensus of course. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think we should have another vote.  Norum 21:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not really a vote, per Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion - more a debate in which people either agree or disagree to do something. This question is here now anyway, so if people want to get involved, here is the place to do it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I say AC/DC is not heavy metal. Akdrummer75 (talk) 08:26, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:   I say the same.  Remove the "heavy-metal" genre from the band's info box.  Norum 01:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Well, considering that no one has opposed, and four people have supported this change, I'll remove heavy metal from the genre box. Akdrummer75 (talk) 08:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's worth a shot, but I predict opposition once it's been done ;) Let's hope not. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Gotta love these discussions - good on y'all dudes (or dudettes)... Billyshiverstick (talk) 04:07, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre II 

message: Why are the "Years active" listed as 1973-2010 and all members as "Former members" when there is no hint for a possible disbanding in the text (to the contrary, there's even a paragraph about future plans). Would anyone care to explain and/or correct? Thanks.
87.193.234.96 (talk) 10:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disbanded?! 

message: Hello! This is very good article. Maybe I'm wrong or I don't know English well, but it seems to me this article has the following mistake "AC/DC are.... Here AC/DC are. I mean "are". By the rules of english with band should use "is" because "it is". It can't be used "are" because band is one, if there were many bands it would be "are", but band is one, and should use "is" it is more right than "are". --Slava Denisov  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Славанчик (talk • contribs) 12:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In the American dialect of English, you would be correct and "are" would be poor grammar, but in the British dialect of English, you are wrong and "are" is correct and "is" is a mistake. In British English, a band or a similar collection of people is almost always a plural thing. In American English, fewer collections of people are plural things, but some are, "the police" are plural for example, but "the congregation" is usually not. American English is also inconsistent even with the same type of thing; sports teams whose names have a plural "s" are treated as plural things, but sports teams whose names are not are often treated as singular. Americans would say "The New York Yankees are winning and Manchester United is winning." But if Americans call the Yankees just by their city name, which is commonly done, Americans say "New York is winning". While it looks odd when juxtaposed like that, it's the way it is. Even the English that Americans and the British agree on is filled with odd little inconsistencies. Studerby (talk) 17:03, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Three members are Australian and two British. The Young brothers are Australian citizens. Anyway the first line refers to the band as a whole, not the individual members, and the band was formed in Australia by five Australians. Bretonbanquet (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Mistakes 

message: Hi. There is a misconception, even by avid AC/DC fans, that the band has music in iTunes. It would be nice if we can make this information more clear to the public that the group has not used iTunes as a distribution channel and has decided to maintain the integrity of their music through albums. The article does a great job in discussing other sources as well such as Sirius and XM. I propose including information as to why iTunes is not used as a music distribution channel, since I've heard many people misunderstood on this information. Thunderstruck67 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, they just released their whole catalog on iTunes a couple weeks ago. I'm not sure about Amazon though. Akdrummer75 (talk) 21:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes & Amazon 

message: Because ACDC is awesome, and because / is boring, do you think we can use ϟ instead in all representations of the band name, since ACϟDC always appears as such on their albums and art? If anyone is against it, please explain how having an actual lightning bolt in the band's name is not cooler than a forward slash. If no one is against it, I will promptly change / to ϟ! :)
Farglesword (talk) 04:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with it is that a lot of people (I'm willing to bet most) will not be able to see it – they'll just see a square box where the flash is supposed to be. Wikipedia has to accommodate everyone. Plus even though the band use the lightning bolt, nobody else does; it's always the slash in newspapers, magazines, websites etc. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:34, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Breton. Some people just see a box, so everyone needs to be accomodated. Akdrummer75 (talk) 02:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lightning bolt! 

message: Hi, I’m 45 years old, and I remember 1980 and the booze induced choking deaths of Bon Scott and John Bonham extremely well.  In particular, I can remember how in the aftermath of Bon’s death a fan contacted the band to say that Brian Johnson – who after the demise of Geordie had essentially retired from music and begun a scrap metal business - would be an ideal replacement and how the Young brothers subsequently auditioned Johnson on the fan's recommendation and hired him. 
Surely this is part of the whole AC/Dc folklore. It was often discussed in the music press and in books about the band from 30 years ago; I distinctly remember Johnson saying how he owed a huge debt of gratitude to that fan, who I understand remains a good friend of the band to this day and I’m rather surprised to find this not mentioned and to now read that Johnson was somehow known to the band – and Bon Scott - all along.--Godwhale (talk) 08:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Most biographies refer to Johnson being on a list of possible replacements put together by the bands management but initially Malcolm Young knocked him back as an option. When they decided to give him an audition he was working for his brother's roofing business and was contacted directly by AC/DC management and invited to audition. The band already knew of Brian Johnson initially via Bon Scott who had seen Geordie and who had reported to the band that Johnson was a great rock singer. The story about the fan doesn't hold up in any of the sources I have researched. FlatOut  —Preceding undated comment added 00:31, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guys, I'm confused 

message: Wiki States, 
AC/DC's first American exposure was through the Michigan radio station AM 600 WTAC in 1977. The station's manager, Peter C. Cavanaugh, booked the band to play at Flint's Capitol Theater. The supporting act was MC5, who had just briefly reunited and agreed to play at the event. The band opened with their popular song "Live Wire" and closed with "It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'n' Roll)".[28]
With the footnote not leading to any back up article, and the above mentioned statement is vague saying 1977.  The setlist link for Flint's Capitol Theater, gives the date of December 5th, 1977 as the night AC/DC played there.  A good 4 months after AC/DC's first American concert in Austin, Tx at the infamous Armadillo World Headquarters.  With many locations being played, some listed here, before making it to the Capitol Theater in Flint, Michigan.  Looks like replications of tour dates here but all the same and coming from different sources and links.  
Back up searches found, the following links
AC/DC Dates 1977
http://acdctourdates.com/1977-acdc-tour-dates.htm
Apr ?, 1977 Culture House, Helsinki, Finland 
May ?, 1977 Culture House, Helsinki, Finland 
Jun ?, 1977 Bondi Lifesavers, Sydney, Australia
 
Jul 27, 1977 Amarillo World Headquaters, Austin, TX, USA 
Jul 28, 1977 Municipal Auditorum, San Antonio, TX, USA 
Jul 29, 1977 Ritz Music Hall, Corpus Christi, TX, USA 
Jul 30, 1977 Electric Ballroom, Dallas, TX, USA
Nov 25, 1977 Capitol Music Hall, Wheeling, WV, USA 
Nov 26, 1977 Municipal Auditorum, Charleston, SC, USA 
Nov 27, 1977 Capri Theatre, Atlanta, GA, USA 
Nov 29, 1977 Roxy Theatre, Northampton, PA, USA 
Dec 01, 1977 Riviera Theatre, Chicago, IL, USA 
Dec 04, 1977 Electric Ballroom, Milwaukee, WI, USA 
Dec 05, 1977 Capitol Theatre, Flint, MI, USA 
Dec 07, 1977 Atlantic Recording Studios, New York, NY, USA 
Dec 09, 1977 Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, TN, USA
Setlist.fm for Capitol Theatre, Flint, Michigan    http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/acdc/1977/capitol-theatre-flint-mi-73dcfa35.html
AC/DC Gig Timeline
Previous concerts
•	AC/DC Nov 25, 1977 at Capitol Music Hall, Wheeling, WV 
•	AC/DC Nov 26, 1977 at Municipal Auditorium, Charleston, WV 
Previous concerts
•	AC/DC Nov 27, 1977 at Capri Theater, Atlanta, GA 
•	AC/DC Nov 29, 1977 at The Garfield, Northampton, PA 
Previous concerts
•	AC/DC Dec 1, 1977 at Riviera Theater, Chicago, IL 
•	AC/DC Dec 4, 1977 at The Electric Ballroom, Milwaukee, WI 
Dec 5, 1977
•	AC/DC Dec 5, 1977 at Capitol Theatre, Flint, MI 
Following concerts
•	AC/DC Dec 7, 1977 at Atlantic Studios, New York, NY 
•	AC/DC Dec 9, 1977 at Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, TN 
The Austin, Tx article link, 
 http://www.austinchronicle.com/music/2008-08-29/666442/
Austin defines itself as a musical wellspring, but 31 years ago, up from Down Under came a bubbling crude mostly unknown on Western shores. AC/DC, an Aussie hard rock quintet making its name at home and in Europe, played its first American concert in Downtown Austin at the famed Armadillo World Headquarters, July 27, 1977.
"I remember it like it was yesterday," says Earl Johnson, lead guitarist for veteran Canadian rock group Moxy, whom AC/DC opened for that day. "The vibe was there. Everyone knew they would break."
Setlist.fm,  http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/acdc/1977/armadillo-world-headquarters-austin-tx-2bdcfc8e.html
Setlist.fm for Armadillo World Headquarters, Austin, Tx
AC/DC Gig Timeline
Previous concerts
	• AC/DC Apr 29, 1977 at Stadthalle, Offenbach 
	• AC/DC Jun 1, 1977 at Bondi Lifesaver, Sydney 
Jul 27, 1977
	• AC/DC Jul 27, 1977 at Armadillo World Headquarters, Austin, TX 
Following concerts
	• AC/DC Jul 28, 1977 at Municipal Auditorium, San Antonio, TX 
	• AC/DC Jul 29, 1977 at Ritz Music Hall, Corpus Christi, TX
And what  was already posted above which included Austin, Tx
AC/DC Dates 1977
http://acdctourdates.com/1977-acdc-tour-dates.htm
Apr ?, 1977 Culture House, Helsinki, Finland 
May ?, 1977 Culture House, Helsinki, Finland 
Jun ?, 1977 Bondi Lifesavers, Sydney, Australia 
Jul 27, 1977 Amarillo World Headquaters, Austin, TX, USA 
Jul 28, 1977 Municipal Auditorum, San Antonio, TX, USA 
Jul 29, 1977 Ritz Music Hall, Corpus Christi, TX, USA 
Jul 30, 1977 Electric Ballroom, Dallas, TX, USA
Nov 25, 1977 Capitol Music Hall, Wheeling, WV, USA 
Nov 26, 1977 Municipal Auditorum, Charleston, SC, USA 
Nov 27, 1977 Capri Theatre, Atlanta, GA, USA 
Nov 29, 1977 Roxy Theatre, Northampton, PA, USA 
Dec 01, 1977 Riviera Theatre, Chicago, IL, USA 
Dec 04, 1977 Electric Ballroom, Milwaukee, WI, USA 
Dec 05, 1977 Capitol Theatre, Flint, MI, USA 
Dec 07, 1977 Atlantic Recording Studios, New York, NY, USA 
Dec 09, 1977 Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, TN, USA  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlk78745 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First American Concert in Austin, Tx at the Armadillo World Headquarters in 1977, not in Flint Michigan 

message: I suggest moving the article to AC/DC (band) and move AC/DC to the disambiguation page, since there are a lot of articles with the same name out there (and besides, this is a type of band, not the main subject of the word "AC/DC".) Epicgenius(talk to me • see my contributions)  23:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: The External Links section has a comment asking to discuss removing links here before doing so.  The "AC/DC Backtracks" link links to a site that is purely a sales site for the AC/DC Backtracks box set.  This is against the following rule in External links/Links normally to be avoided
* Individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services
If anyone has a valid reason to keep this link, please say so.  Otherwise, I will remove it. Wantnot (talk) 07:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good pick-up. I don't have any objections. It might be nice to find a better source rather than delete, but I don't feel strongly about it. Flat Out let's discuss it 07:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see any point in having an external link for this (or any release).  This box set already has its own page and is listed in the band discography.  (That page has the same link which should also be removed for the same reason).  I think it's well covered. Wantnot (talk) 23:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks  Wantnot , agreed. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove AC/DC Backtracks website from External Links? 

message: There are several references to Gene Pierson in the AC/DC article, 1 is referenced but the reference is not accurate and doesn't mention Pierson. The other two are not referenced. There is however, no mention of managers Michael Browning or Peter Mensch, or tour manager Ian Jeffrey who played large and significant roles in the success of the band. I have found one reference that Pierson "brokered" the arrangement for Scott to join AC/DC as singer but the significant biographies all credit Vince Lovegrove as the person who suggested Scott to George Young who was scouting for a replacement to Dave Evans, and Dennis Laughlin as the person who offered Scott the job. before I edit does anyone want to put a counter view? FlatOut 00:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, go ahead and delete it. I knew that part was b.s. from the start, but it was too soon after it was added to delete it. I haven't been on here in awhile, so I never got the chance. But yeah, go ahead. That citation needed tag's been there for awhile now and no one has stepped up. Akdrummer75 (talk) 05:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is one reference available to confirms Pierson booked AC/DC so that can stay. I have deleted the other unsupported claims and the article now correlates with information at Vince Lovegrove Flat Out let's discuss it 05:24, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome. Glad that eyesore's outta there. Akdrummer75 (talk) 02:52, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gene Pierson 

message: AC/DC
Dave Evans is one of the original members of AC/DC along with Angus and Malcolm Young, Colin Burgess and Larry Van Kriedt during the band's foundation. He was a member of the band for a year before being replaced by Bon Scott around October 1974. During his time with AC/DC, Evans recorded one single ("Can I Sit Next To You, Girl"/ "Rocking In The Parlour") which was released in Australia and New Zealand. A promotional video for "Can I Sit Next To You, Girl" was also produced.
173.176.241.162 (talk) 23:37, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't this already covered in the article? Flat Out let's discuss it 02:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

text: I have closed this edit request as it only consists of rambling with no specific request to edit the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 12 June 2013 

message: "backtracks" (2009), "Iron man 2" (2010) og "Live at river plate" (2012) mangler fra diskografien
Herje666 (talk) 11:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  these are suitable for the full AC/DC discography, but here it's studio albums only. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 19 July 2013 

message: "Back in Black" is now the fourth biggest selling album by any artist The Eagles's album Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975) passed it. NCFan12312 (talk) 13:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 2 October 2013  

message: Why are some past members bolded & some past members not bolded? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: the most recent update, talking about the new album, is horribly written, with appalling grammar. Someone please fix it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.74.208 (talk) 00:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  album update 

message: There is a new book about AC/DC called The Youngs: The Brothers Who Built AC/DC by Jesse Fink, Random House Australia, 2013, that contains new revelations about the band. Should be added to "Further Reading".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bergerac77 (talk • contribs) 10:27, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book 

message: How is heavy metal not in the genres? And Rock and Roll in this context is basically the same is hard rock. It's like Ozzy Osbourne calling his music Rock n' Roll even though it's heavy metal (which is of course a sub-genre of rock).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.33.59 (talk) 22:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus is that AC/DC are not a good example of a heavy metal band, that the music isn't really heavy metal by many standards and that that genre should not be in the infobox. It has been discussed here a few times. It's mentioned in the text, with the appropriate reference etc. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't rate any source that suggested Powerage was "one of the heaviest albums of all time" – it's just a blues rock album. Let There Be Rock is heavier but (in my view) it's still hard blues rock, not heavy metal. It's hardly Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Clearly what constitutes HM is very subjective – I wouldn't say Van Halen or Aerosmith are HM either. Others, especially people in the US, probably differ, but the consensus was not to have HM in the infobox. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

text: "Down Payment Blues" and "Gimme a Bullet" have that heavy metal vibe to them from Powerage. Either way, in the 1970s hard rock and heavy metal were used especially interchangeably. Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Rainbow, Van Halen and Kiss's pages have heavy metal as a 2nd genre despite being known as hard rock bands. AC/DC is no different from these bands, and that's why it should be there. Also Rock n' Roll doesn't need to be there, it has no reason to. It's redundant having Hard Rock and Rock n' Roll both there. I'm fine with it coming 3rd after blues rock but if their peers all have it then so should AC/DC in my opinion. Also another thing. It's IN THE TEXT that they are pioneers of heavy metal. Lemmy of Motorhead says that they play Rock n' Roll and even resents the label "metal band", but that doesn't make them not a heavy metal band. Of course Motorhead is a heavy metal band but as I stated above as a 70s hard rock band it should be added to keep it consistent with their peers. 108.81.33.59 (talk) 02:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I got as far as "Down Payment Blues" has a heavy metal vibe to it and I can see that we're never going to agree. DPB is as far from metal as AC/DC can get – it's pure blues rock. The other articles you mention have no bearing here, like everything on Wikipedia, and I would class none of those as heavy metal anyway, with the possible exception of some of Deep Purple's stuff, like "Highway Star". Hard rock and rock 'n' roll are not the same thing, and many of the early Bon Scott songs are rock 'n' roll, straight out of the Chuck Berry songbook. I agree with Lemmy about Motorhead, no matter how journalists get it wrong. Infoboxes are supposed to be general, and not just include every genre ever attached to a band. I think the fundamental issue here is that American views on what constitutes heavy metal are very different from views held elsewhere, and these articles have to work on individual consensus. I find calling Led Zeppelin heavy metal as crazy as you find this AC/DC question. If consensus here changes, then we change the article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I'm not going to get into a discussion about which songs are metal, because I don't think any of them are metal. And no, I'm talking about the first AC/DC albums with Scott: High Voltage, TNT, Dirty Deeds, that stuff. How about "There's Gonna Be Some Rockin'"? Pure 50s-influenced rock 'n' roll. In fact AC/DC were far more rock 'n' roll at that time than either of Scott's previous two bands. The Valentines were a pop band and Fraternity were sort of prog. Whatever the consensus at the articles of other bands, that's great, but it has no bearing on the consensus here. Occasionally somebody comes along and asks for metal to be put in the infobox, like you have, but there is never enough of a demand to make it happen. Not yet anyway. Lastly, influencing a genre does not make a band a part of that genre. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

text: That's the thing, it isn't solely my opinion. The consensus is here. As you can see, nobody wanted to keep HM in the infobox. I think most people are wary of getting into pointless discussions. Also, keep the talk in one place, not four different places. This is the correct place to discuss it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

text: If you want to gain consensus you need to propose a change with reliable sources and supported by wikipedia policy/guidelines and get the support of other editors. Picking out a few songs as examples of metail doesn't make the case at all. We do not include all genre that may apply, we only include the genre that the overwhelming majority of reliable sources have to say on the subject. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genres 

message: In 2014, Brian Johnson confirmed that in May AC/DC will be back in studio for recording a new album. He confirmed that even during the F1 Bahrain Grand Prix. Can you please add it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gen712 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2014 news 

message: According to several sources including http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2604825/Australia-rock-band-AC-DC-retire-following-band-members-health-concerns.html the band AC/DC have now broken up  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gl1tt3r0nth3sn0w (talk • contribs) 09:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Gl1tt3r0nth3sn0w, that isn't what the source says. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:55, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broke up 

message: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/conflicting-reports-surface-regarding-acdcs-future  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredu (talk • contribs) 18:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Rumours. We'll need an announcement of some sort from the band or the record company. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source for the band splitting 

message: I'm surprised the article does not mention the deaths during an AC/DC concert at the Salt Palace (arena) in 1991. That linked article has sources that match Wikipedia's reliability standards for the incident, it's also briefly mentioned in the article for Razors Edge World Tour. Given that AC/DC settled out of court, it seems it is relevant enough to mention here. Is this a simple omission, or has there been an effort to keep this content off the page? Dave (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's ever been mentioned, which suggests a simple omission. I'd say a short paragraph would be relevant. Put it in, see what happens? Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Added, we'll see what happens Dave (talk) 05:42, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salt Palace trampling 

message: Need update: Angus is too sick to perform and seems he won't be getting  better. April 15, 2014.
74.60.161.158 (talk) 01:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: this is (a) not sourced and (b) not true. Flat Out let's discuss it 08:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Update needed

message: I have reverted an edit that stated Malcolm had suffered a stroke/blood clot. There is no confirmation that this is true and it is not what the source says. Anyone making an edit on this subject, please make the the source is reliable and that the edit fairly represents the source. Flat Out let's discuss it 08:52, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to disagree that he was ever "a member of the band." Helping out at a few live shows qualifies him as a session guitarist, same as Tony Currenti was a session drummer. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:38, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Malcolm Young

message: Should "rock and roll" really be included as a genre? I mean, according to the Wikipedia page on rock and roll, it says the term is, "referring to the first wave of music that originated in the US in the 1950s and would later develop into the more encompassing international style known as 'rock music,'" With this in mind, rock and roll refers to artists such as Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, and Little Richard. I don't see how AC/DC fits into that category as none of their songs (to my knowledge) have the signature sound of that era. In addition, every article I've seen on their individual songs categorizes them as "hard rock" or "blues rock". What do you guys think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twyfan714 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a reliable source, do you have any other source to support a discussion? Flat Out let's discuss it 01:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link from Allmusic. It's AC/DC's bio: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/ac-dc-mn0000574772/biography. It does not classify them as simply, "rock and roll." Allmusic also says, "In its purest form, Rock & Roll has three chords, a strong, insistent back beat, and a catchy melody." While I can definitely see the three chords thing, I don't know about the back beat or catchy melody. Here's the link to that page: http://www.allmusic.com/style/rock-roll-ma0000002829. I just think rock and roll isn't the best way to describe AC/DC's music. I personally think "Hard rock, blues rock" describes virtually all their music.Twyfan714 (talk) 01:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Allmusic also describes their genre as pop/rock so I wouldn't focus too much on that source. In Rolling Stones Greatest Artists of all time, American producer Rick Rubin described them as "the greatest rock and roll band of all time." See here. They have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, where Rock is a synonym for Rock and Roll. Murray Engleheart, in his book AC/DC Maximum Rock and Roll also described them as the worlds greatest rock and roll band. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. That is a good point. However, with regards to Allmusic, the pop/rock thing is meant as a general category. What I mean is, even genres like heavy metal and punk fit under the general label of "rock" because those are subgenres. Allmusic isn't necessarily saying that AC/DC's music is pop rock, just that their music is a subgenre of "pop/rock." Also, I am not so sure if an author's opinion necessarily should provide much weight here. Also, just as another example, the Ramones were once reviewed by Newsday's Wayne Robbins as, "'the best young rock 'n' roll band in the known universe.'" However, this does not mean that the Ramones should be considered "rock and roll" because it is more accurately described as punk rock. In my opinion, rock and roll is a somewhat misleading label, and "Hard rock, blues rock" is a more accurate label for AC/DC. That's just my two cents. Twyfan714 (talk) 01:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Motorhead calls their music "rock and roll", so does Ozzy Osbourne. Rock and Roll in AC/DC's sense is just a general term. Yes, I think it should also be taken out. Heck it's way closer to heavy metal than rockabilly 50s Rock n' Roll, but nobody on here knows anything about genres so nobody wants to put in heavy metal as the 3rd genre. 108.81.33.59 (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Most people on here do know about genres, which is why heavy metal isn't in the infobox. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:21, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong. You actually just proved my point by saying that. If you read the article itself it even contradicts the hippies saying it doesn't belong in the infobox. 108.81.33.59 (talk) 04:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Rubbish. Come back when you have a consensus. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre - again 

message: I reverted a good faith that A.C.D.C are now gay for each other really much,..sex bomb., and brought here for discussion. There are a few issues as I see them. The first is that Stevie Young played rhythm guitar in the studio for the upcoming album, that doesn't necessarily make him a band member and his presence is noted in the line-up tables elsewhere. Malcolm is on hiatus due to ill-health but I don't believe he has "left the band." Flat Out let's discuss it 23:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, there has been NO change to AC/DC's lineup, Stevie will be credited for his contributions to the album. Until there's an update to Malcolm's health issues or the band goes out on tour and see what's up then.  Mlpearc (open channel) 23:47, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide a reliable source that backs that up, please do.  Mlpearc (open channel) 03:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

text: The line-up tables covers Stevie's recent contribution off as a studio musician only and I feel this is correct. Last time Mal took a break while on tour in the U.S he wasn't removed from the band's line up and I don't see that this situation is much different. Flat Out let's discuss it 05:32, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

text: Same as anywhere else but probably not needed if covered in the article body. Flat Out let's discuss it 05:32, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Band Members

message: On what basis is Stevie Young a 2014 touring member? Flat Out let's discuss it 11:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. When somebody put that, I did think of changing it but I couldn't think of what to change it to. I thought of "temporary member" but we don't know if he'll be temporary or permanent. What do you think? Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say that if they tour with him in 2014 then what is currently there is correct. Until then I don't think it should be there at all. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean to have him there under the other members with no subsection heading, or to remove him altogether? Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would remove him from this article altogether. His presence on the 88 tour is covered in List of AC/DC band members and was only a few shows as far as I know, but if he embarks on a 2014 tour as a starting member then I see that as significant and that Touring Member, 1988, 2014 -  would then be appropriate. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: But he's on the forthcoming album, so people will inevitably re-add him. We don't know yet whether he'll be credited on it (we all know what AC/DC are like), but he's definitely on it, so he's at least a session musician or a stand-in or something. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's covered at the List of AC/DC band members :) P.S I'm retired so I'll leave it to your best judgement. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:48, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but to all intents and purposes he's a current member, albeit of lesser status. It's a difficult one. It would help if he band announced exactly what he'll be doing with them in the future, but I guess Malcolm's situation isn't all that clear at the moment. I've tried to clarify it a bit and taken out the "touring member" heading. If anyone has any further comments or suggestions, we'll take it from there. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Stevie Young

message: I want a section that mentions that the only mainstaying band member in AC/DC that is actually from Australia is Phil Rudd. Bon, Brian, the Youngs and Cliff were all born in the UK. 108.81.33.59 (talk) 06:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A curious reference is what appears on http://music.uk.msn.com/features/the-best-scottish-singers-and-bands#image=7 about "The best Scottish singers and bands". The AC/DC page says: "AC/DC's Wikipedia page might tell you they're from Australia, but Angus and Malcolm Young were born in Scotland, and the band's original singer Bon Scott (RIP) came from Forfar - they had neeps and tatties in their blood.". Well the Wikipedia page does say Angus and Malcolm Young were "Scottish-born Australian guitarist"s and that Bon Scott was a Scottish-born Australian rock musician... So clearly we are acknowledging, contrary to what the article says, their Scottish origins and birthplace. But the way its written in the MSN Music page article, is as if we totally ignore this.. Just anything I guess to get back at Wikipedia werldwayd (talk) 00:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This request needs some perspective. Place of birth is relatively meaningless when you consider where they have lived and now reside. Bon Scott was born in Scotland before immigrating to Australia with his parents and siblings when he was 6 years old. Scott was living in England at the time of his passing. Both Brian Johnson and Cliff Williams were born in England and now live in Florida, USA. Angus and Malcolm Young were born in Scotland before immigrating to Australia with their parents and a sister when they were 8 and 10 years old respectfully. Angus Young now lives in both Gelderland, Netherlands, and New South Wales, Australia. Malcolm Young now lives in England. Phil Rudd was born in Australia and now lives on North Island, New Zealand. What makes even residencies a redundant guide is the fact that AC/DC was formed in Australia where their early creations were successful enough to give them the start toward their global success. Factrules (talk) 02:53, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band is Australian, but only Rudd is native Australian 

message: Gym7913 (talk) 15:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. The request you have made is blank. Stickee (talk) 06:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2014 "Further reading: Wall, Mick: Hell Ain´t a Bad Place to be (2012)" 

message: Please add the following right above the "Legacy Paragraph":
On December 15. they retrieve a new Worldrecord, for the fastest selling Ticket Presale Worldwide. In 77 Minutes more than 300.000 Tickets for the Upcoming Tour were sold for the 9 Shows in Germany, and the Tour was completely sold out.ACDC Tour 2015. Vorverkaufstarts.de. Retrieved 31. December 2014.
Lillpette2000 (talk) 12:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —  (e • t • c) 13:10, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2014 Ticket Presale World Record 

message: AC/DC is an Australian hard rock band,
71.93.75.56 (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Yes, they are.  If you're referring to "AC/DC are an Australian hard rock band" this article is written in British english, the are is correct. Mlpearc (open channel) 02:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2015 

message: Why don't we write "AC⚡DC" instead of "AC/DC", it better reflects their logo visually and / is not an acceptable character in file's names. SF 83.13.239.255 (talk) 16:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the unicode symbol you used is showing as a box or space on many desktops (including mine), AC/DC is common use in text on the band, and it doesn't create any file naming issues. Flat Out let's discuss it 22:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC⚡DC  

message: Should all 15 former official members be listed in the band's template to make the list complete and accurate? I think doing so would make sense. 173.51.130.250 (talk) 01:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former members in band template 

message: Since Phil Rudd is still having troubles, I don't think his name should be in the "current members" column, --123.2.142.50 (talk) 02:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: 123.2.142.50 until a reliable source says he is out he is a current member . Flat Out let's discuss it 02:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phil Rudd's troubles 

message: In the list on the members Phil Rudd has been swaped with Chris Slade as the current drummer.
Frozenmax17 (talk) 10:51, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a discussion going on in this page about this issue. You should contribute to it instead of asking for semi-protection.--Gorpik (talk) 11:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Not done: checked, not so. Mlpearc (open channel) 12:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2015 

message: Move Phil Rudd to Past Members.  Move Chris Slade back to current members.
203.208.66.58 (talk) 05:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: there has been extensive discussion on this point and the consensus is to leave the membership at present unless a clear announcement is made on Rudd's future. Flat Out let's discuss it 06:04, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: To be fair, it's only the consensus of a few moderators. The majority of comments above support moving Chris to the current column at least. It would be interesting to see the decision of some moderators who have no preference one way or another in the band and what they would rule. I have no idea if there is a process for that or how it works, but it seems to me that this should be reviewed by impartial people as this article is becoming more outdated and non-factual as time passes. 67.224.16.233 (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no moderators here. We edit by consensus not voting or majorities. If you wish to apply a Wikipedia policy or reliable source to support your change please do so as rehashing the same point is achieving nothing. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2015