Talk:Shm-reduplication

message: I wonder why it's "reduplication."  That seems a bit redundant to me. --BennyD 08:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the basic phenomenon is what's known as "reduplication" among linguists (i.e. doubling a word or part of a word), then modifying the initial consonants. AnonMoos 09:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "reduplication"?

message: Another internal link there could be added. I believe "Joe Shmoe" also follows "Shm-reduplication". Hangfromthefloor 01:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Joe Shmoe]] 

message: Can anyone vouch for this usage? I'm trying hard to imagine a scenario where there's a need for a slang term for binomial nomenclature. That it would be "latin schmatin" is just beyond me. --Stihdjia (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin Schmatin 

message: My thanks to Adrian MichelleInSanMarcos (talk) 18:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha, well redirects are cheap so I see no harm in creating one.  . Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:20, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The redirect is fine, but I'm not sure that any change to the article is called for... AnonMoos (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[ reshmuplication ]] now has a wiki page going here 

message: Using the prefix "xla-" ('old') bestows derision or doubt upon nouns and verbs. Examples: le xla-janale', u xla-wotoch, in xla-meyaj.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.202.63.68 (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That would appear to be a simple prefix, rather than "expressive reduplication".  If you want a language with a wide variety of quasi-derogatory forms of word modification, look at "Abnormal types of speech in Nootka" by Edward Sapir, where there are special ways of "talking to or about fat people or people of unusual size", "People who are abnormally small", "those suffering from some defect of the eye", "Hunchbacks", "lame people", "left-handed people", "circumcised males", and "greedy people"! AnonMoos (talk) 04:01, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analogous phenomenon in Yucatecan Maya 

message: chaoxiandelunzi - This article mentions schm-/shm- reduplication. I'm not sure if it is of any use for the shm-reduplication article. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if shm- originates just from "Yiddish koyfn, shmoyfn" Slang: The Authoritative Topic-By-Topic Dictionary of American Lingoes from All Walks of Life Should have claimed, too.--chaoxiandelunzi (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Nifty Giftie

message: I just read from this article by Bert Vaux(http://www.academia.edu/209796/Metalinguistic_shmetalinguistic_The_phonology_of_shm-reduplication) that
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Southern (forthcoming)suggests that shm-reduplication arose in Yiddish from a mix of Turkic Echo m-and East Slavic sh-. The Oxford English Dictionary on the other hand sees it as anEnglish-internal development, “derived from the numerous Yiddish words that begin with this sequence of sounds”. The existence of early Yiddish forms inshm- supports the former theory over the latter (cf. Weinreich (1980:623-4), who seems to think that the construction goes back several centuries in Yiddish.)Southern for example cites Yiddish shmallig , employed in a manuscript of c.1600 to disparage hallig ‘holy’.,
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However when I searched "shmallig" in google and google scholar I got no results except copies of this article. So I am doubtful about whether there existed a c.1600 manuscript, which would extend the history of shm- back for about 300 years, until there is further evidences.--chaoxiandelunzi (talk) 02:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I know nothing about Yiddish but I occasionally like to help with ref searches. I do not have access to the website you link to but I found this PDF of a paper written by Nevins & Vaux. Is this the same article or a different (and perhaps helpful) one? F6697  FORMERLY   66.97.209.215 TALK 08:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Actually it is simple to get access to academia.edu--you just register a user and verify your email, and you can download the pdf(they asked me some question like whether I have been a author of an article, but I skipped that and found no problem).--chaoxiandelunzi (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still doubtful about something in Bert Vaux article 

message: Should be mentioned I think.199.247.44.43 (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schmoozing schmoozing 

message: What shall “German Yiddish” be? “In German Yiddish the same construction is possible, too, for example: Visum-Schmisum”. Western Yiddish has been out of use for long. Is the article talking simply about German? (which sometimes uses Yiddish expressions, at times in a derogatory way) --Chricho ∀ (talk) 08:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  “German Yiddish”