Talk:Festa Junina

message: "The main musical genre in festas juninas is forró. Today they are also associated with rodeos, reflecting the success of American country music in Brazil."
:I really don't think so. At least for what I could recall from festas juninas. Brazil has its own "country music style" (Sertanejo) and this is the often the music played at these parties. --Pinnecco 09:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean, besides forró, of course ;) --Pinnecco 09:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Northeast, forró is the main genre. And sertanejo is as Brazilian as Nashville. Macgreco 20:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I do agree that "new sertanejo" as in songs like "é o amor" is not "sertanejo" at all. But what about artists like Tonico e Tinoco, Almir Sater and Ricardo Teixeira? --Pinnecco (talk) 15:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: Which day of the year is this festival held? --87.14.195.53 (talk) 11:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which day of the year? 

message: Hello all / Olá gente,
This page covers a major aspect of Brazilian culture, yet it violates many of Wikipeida's Rules. It lacks various sources, and provides a lacking overview of the entire festival from a single source. It doesn't create a comprehensive collection of information about the tradition for an English audience, unlike its Portuguese version. There are no subsections that easily divide up the information, rather a single section of text that explores various aspects at once. There is little coverage about issues surrounding the Festa Junina of race and class interactions, the extensiveness at which it is celebrated throughout Brazil, and it's connections to Midsummer celebrations in Europe despite being during Brazilian winter.
I plan to correct these issues by introducing various sources, primarily academic texts, covering the Festa Junina, and reformatting the page entirely. Currently I am planning on adding a subsection on it's history, practices, and modern day criticisms. This will provide a greater understanding of the culture to any English speakers hoping to learn more, while doing justice to the "high-priority" this article has been given in relation to Wikipedia's coverage of Brazilian culture. Expect small changes to this page over time that will culminate in an entire overhaul of the article. 
* Anderson, Michael Alan. "FIRE, FOLIAGE AND FURY: VESTIGES OF MIDSUMMER RITUAL IN MOTETS FOR JOHN THE BAPTIST." Early Music History 30 (2011): 1-54. 
* Apple, Caroline. "Professora faz "blackface" em Festa Junina e é acusada de racismo por movimentos negros." Noticias R7, June 23, 2015.
* Rangel, Lúcia Helena Vitalli. Festas juninas, festas de São João: origens, tradições e história. São Paulo, SP: Publishing Solutions, 2008.
* Bholi, Shelly. 2017. Festa junina - the winter fest of brazil. Indian Express, Jun 28, 2017.
* Herderson, Helene, and Sue Ellen. Thompson. Holidays, festivals, and celebrations of the world dictionary: detailing more than 2, 000 observances from all 50 states and more than 100 nations. 5th ed. Detroit, MI: Omnigraphics, 1997.
* Chisholm, Jennifer. "Festa junina and the Changing Meanings of Brazilian Rural Festivals in Urban Spaces." Alter/nativas, no. 4 (2015).
* Packman, Jeff. 2012. "The Carnavalização of São João: Forrós, Sambas and Festive Interventions during Bahia, Brazil's festas juninas." Ethnomusicology Forum 21, no. 3: 327-353.
* Campos, Judas Tadeu de. 2007. Festas juninas nas escolas: Lições de preconceitos. Educação & Sociedade 28. 589-606
* Roth-Gordon, Jennifer. "Fears of Racial Contact: Crime, Violence, and the Struggle over Urban Space."Race and the Brazilian Body: Blackness, Whiteness, and Everyday Language in Rio De Janeiro, 95-127. Oakland, California: University of California Press, 2017.
* Castro, Jânio Roque Barros. "The Promotion of Big Parties During the June Festivities in Private Arenas in Reconcavo Region: An Analytical Assessment." GeoTextos, 2011.
Notes and advice would be greatly appreciated!
NeuroCoxinha (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just off the bat, the article is seriously lacking in everything that you said. It is also lacking separate sections, making it look like a giant lead to...? First, I think adding citations is a good first step, so that the article is no longer a stub and gets up to par with Wikipedia's guidelines. I think that covering everything that you wish to (history, practices, modern day criticisms) is a wonderful start to the additions this article needs. I would also say that concentrating on history and practices first may be the best way to begin. Understanding criticisms will be difficult if there is no base to begin forming ideas. Good ideas, and I cannot wait to see the updated article! Kbell21 (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Formatting is crucial to efficiently getting across this information. You make a good point; without a good introduction and foundation, these criticisms wont make any sense. I'll be sure to place an extra emphasis on that section, considering most readers will presumably be looking for general information on the tradition. It would look rather odd for someone to come to this article and learn all about why the Festa Junina is controversial...but not know what the Festa Junina is, haha. Thank you! NeuroCoxinha (talk) 06:39, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations, Formatting, and Coverage (oh my!) 

message: It gives me great anxiety to just delete the information that is currently on the page, even though it has no real source, and it is stored in the history of the page. Instead I will leave this current information, moving it into my new subsections and adding "citation needed" to any possibly dubious information.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeuroCoxinha (talk • contribs) 20:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick Note 

message: I think this is a good start to fixing this article. First, there is a shorter lead, and actual sections now. However, right off the bat, the article is flagged because it has no references. I also think that there needs to be more wikilinks in the article. I think if you fix both of those issues, you will have a great first draft to the article! Kbell21 (talk) 01:11, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kennedey Peer Review 2