Talk:Theories of urban planning

message: Should this redirect here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No infrastructure planning should be considered a sub-discipline. Technical urban planners work in infrastructure planning. They develop systemwide plans, create political consensus, arrange funding sources and write the scope of large complex projects (an example would be a development plan for a light rail line). They also analyze entire systems of public infrastructure and determine systemwide needs and maintenance. Civil engineers and electrical systems engineers play a very pivotal role in infrastructure planning as well and are traditionally considered the other major players in infrastructure planning as they pull projects into the other stages of program delivery. Infrastructure planning is also related to urban design and architecture.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.24.181.239 (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Respectfully, urban and regional planning deal with larger projects...Data and Lore (talk) 18:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Infrastructure planning]] 

message: Aspect: An aspect was considered for deal with regulation of admission into any room! of more or less
sunshine. Aspect 1s meant for arrangement of doors and windows 1n the external walls of the 
bui1idingwh1ch allows the natural gifts of sun shine and air, scenery ect.
Kitchen: Eastern aspect, so that the morning sun would refresh and purify the air and the kitchen would  
               remain cool during latter part of the day.
Living Room: Southern or South-East aspect ,The sun 1s towards the south during coo1er days and the 
living  rooms with south aspect will be benefited by the sun when it is winter and in summer as the
sun would be on north side. 
Bed Room: West or South-west aspects the breeze required partlcular1y in summer, would prevail from
that side. 
There will be no sun from the south side most of the year, the laundries and store rooms may be provided
on that side. Light from North -evenly Distributed the Studios, reading rooms and class rooms are laid out
with north aspect.
 writer -waghmare vishal¡  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.239.47.98 (talk) 05:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Principles of Process Planning and aspect 

message: The first recorded description of urban planning is described in the Epic of Gilgamesh for the city of Uruk.
"Go up on to the wall of Uruk and walk around ! Inspect the foundation platform and scrutinize the brickwork ! Testify that its bricks are baked bricks, And that the Seven Counsellors must have laid its foundations ! One square mile is city, one square mile is orchards, one square mile is claypits, as well as the open ground of Ishtar's temple. Three square miles and the open ground comprise Uruk. Look for the copper tablet-box, Undo its bronze lock, Open the door to its secret, Lift out the lapis lazuli tablet and read it"
The question arises what does this plan look like. Some imagine a central square of open ground surrounded by a circle of a square mile which is the city, and a second narrow circle of a square mile which is orchards and a third narrower still which is clay pits. 
archaeology provides a map about 2500 meters in diameter with a square of about 100 meters to a side between the buildings of the zigurat complex of which the temple of Ianna (Ishtar) is a part.Data and Lore (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Epic of Gilgamesh as the first recorded instance of Urban Planning occurring with the city of Uruk

message: I tried to fix this but couldn't and reverted my effortData and Lore (talk) 09:17, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: reference note 69 missing URL

message: Organic urban design uses natural features and like nature abhors a straight line. Vitruvius addresses it as shaped by wind and water, In early and medieval cities and towns it exhibits natural closure where transit follows a course through residential neighborhoods of craftsmen and guilds, to market squares with glimpses of public works exposing attractive features that draw you farther in. Most organic urban design began in cave complexes around river mouths and deltas occurring where the waterways which were the first highways met some natural change of state; the ocean, rapids or a waterfall, steep cliffs that hemmed a river in making it go faster, an oasis along a coast or an island in a river. Almost all settlements originated either as trading posts, forts, ports, caravan watering holes, sources of natural resources such as clay, stone, bitumen, timber, spices, perfumes, a good place to hunt or fish, or a place to forage where natural grains or fruits grew wild. In most such places whoever controlled the water controlled the land and so organizing the digging of irrigation ditches or changing the course of streams became some of the first urban planning projects. Nomads whose hunting and gathering led them to such places tended to expand settlements with a seasonal meetup to trade, or exploit the growing cycles of flora and fauna. When the fish were running everybody would come to the falls and if they wanted to catch a lot of fish buy a basket or a net, trade furs for a boat or trade shaped obsidian for a throwing stick or trident.
Moving forward into a period when there began to be a division between land folk and sea people there is a sharp division between the style of settlements. Sea people tend to choose a small island close to shore at or near an oasis with a fresh water source to which they may build a causeway creating a harbor. Land folk tend to build a [[walled enclosure to if nothing else protect them and their crops and herds against the attacks of predators. Both sea people and land folk tended to make some places sacred as burial grounds or the home of elemental powers or beauty. Almost all of the coastal settlements mentioned in The Periplus of the Erythrian Sea are designed by sea peoples to have groves of tall timbers suitable for masts. Almost all of them have inland satellite villages occupied by land folk. Almost all land folk settlements are near a natural resource which they can trade.Data and Lore (talk) 21:29, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of organic urban planning 

message: *Support. The above-referenced article hardly stands on its own. It makes more sense to merge it into this article & redirect. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Urban Land Use Model]] into this article 

message: split apart the sections History of urban planning and Aspects of urban planning, which IMHO is a good idea, as the article had become unmanageable. It's however always necessary to leave in or merge back a few introductory paragraphs. The same holds for the theories section which could be split apart as well, but needs a few introductory paragraphs to remain here. --PanchoS (talk) 23:15, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This has now created two almost-identical articles - Aspects of urban planning and Technical Aspects of Urban Planning. Randomeditor1000 - are you intending on deleting the former article? Rund717 (talk) 14:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article split 

message: The introduction section is plagiarised from the source referenced 85.24.173.161 (talk) 21:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: I get it. It's a credentialed field and articles like this will generally be written in the style of a term paper using the things the profs bother to talk about. Even so, Wikipedia's article on "Theories of urban planning" should not be solely focused on the lesson plans of North American and British seminars principally dealing with 19th-century movements and current fads. It should include (at minimum)
* Some further historical depth in the West, including Hippodamus and Plato's focus on rationalized and limited settlement with a focus on establishing idea city-states and Roman colonia, with their hard-minded focus on regional subjugation but obsessive focus on religious rituals to harmonize the space with the gods and establish an interior order sharply distinguished from the chaos of the natural world without
* Traditional Chinese urban planning, with its theoretical geomantic components alongside sharp compartmentalization serving for crime, riot, epidemic, and crowd control
and anything concrete that's been used in Mesoamerica or India apart from the Mohenjo-daro deal.
 — LlywelynII 16:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:BIAS]]