Talk:Criticism of communist party rule

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message: Reading the paragraph under "social development", citing only one primary source (Horowitz), it is easy to see how imbalanced this article is. I'll be doing some counterbalance work on this article. All meticulously cited and sourced of course. I'm not too great at the editing of citations (the format seems to have changed), so if anyone would like to help edit, it'd be appreciated.
If however my citations are removed (as these kind've things tend to happen in political articles), I'll ask a good explanation why. Everything I posted is legitimate, even if it does happen to make communism look good.
Solntsa90 (talk) 03:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Communism is good, communism is something that hasn't been achieved as it involves a stateless, classless, moneyless society with the means of production held in common by all of society and community regulation of such, a lack of commodity production, and a lack of wage labour, the dissolution or withering away of state after the socialist transitory stage towards the achievement of this society, an industrialized society and proletariat, etc. What most people in the western world erroneously refer to as "communism" is merely socialism, as these nations were only socialist and had not established communism, a communist society, nor have they reached that stage of progression. Socialism has resulted in improvements of the quality of life, literacy, women's rights, rights for minorities, industrial and military capabilities, economies, democracy, lifespan, caloric intake, etc. Some examples of increased literacy and lifespan would be in the Soviet Union and China, some examples of industrialization would also be within those nations. Some examples of electrification would be in Albania for example where under Enver Hoxha's leadership the entirety of the nation was electrified and electricity brought to every household. Also, an improvement of women's rights could be seen in the Soviet Union and China with women playing a role in education, government, military, the workforce, etc as women were guaranteed equal rights to men, equal pay in accordance with the quantity and quality of their labour such as in the Soviet Union, guaranteed by the constitution, women were allowed to serve in the military and in government positions, you can see old photos, videos, documentaries, etc which show female politicians in socialist nations such as the previously mentioned, female soldiers, female farmers, female industrial workers, etc. Communism is the complete antithesis and solution to capitalism, socialism is merely a temporary transitory stage which is a quick-fix, a temporary solution. Proletarian Banner (talk) 21:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: "it involves a stateless, classless, moneyless society" No offense intended, but it sounds like a utopian project on solving the world's problems. The various methods proposed or used to reach this ideal world have often had negative consequences of their own. And I state this as a lifelong supporter of socialism, as were my parents and my grandfather. Dimadick (talk) 15:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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I removed the 'original research' tag from Dec. 2009, as there has been no follow-up at all nor rebuttals for almost four years now. 10stone5 (talk) 20:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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message: If this article is meant to be justified as a summary style split from Communist state, it needs to be covered in the parent article in much greater depth. (not watching, please ) czar 21:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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message: The sections Criticism of communist party rule#Political repression seems to be fast growing "criticism of criticism", which basically consists of statements trying to probe that "Americans did more...". Because the article is called Criticism of communist party rule rather than, for example, "Comparison of socialism and capitalism" or "Who was eviler, Soviets or Americans", the purpose of these edits is to depreciate well-documented abuse by parties explicitly calling themselves "communist" and they are nothing other than classic whataboutism and And you are lynching Negroes eristical technique. These are WP:UNDUE and WP:POV, apart from being simply nonsense, because if you take for example article on Criticism of United States foreign policy, you obviously won't  find passages arguing "but USSR killed more". Cloud200 (talk) 20:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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