Talk:Robert Lee Moore

message: The reputable sources in its list don't say anything about RLM being racist. The only ones that even allude to it are two personal webpages. Whoever put the page together just tossed a bunch of AMS articles that mentioned Moore into the list to make their claims look legitimate at first glance. It's just an error-filled rant by one guy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.74.14.180 (talk) 02:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "racist mathematician unveiled" page is an absolute joke. 

message: The issue of RLM's racism does not belong in the first sentence.  It is an important issue that should be handled carefully and honestly, with full consideration of RLM's historical context.  It isn't the first thing someone needs to know about RLM.  His historical significance is as a mathematician and a teacher.  Later in the article, the issue of his racism is acknowledged and discussed.  --Singularitarian (talk) 23:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Johntex\talk 05:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

text: There don't seem to be any reliable sources that claim that he was a racist, which should settle the issue by itself. The source for the "racism" section is a political diatribe. The links in its reference list are a mix of self-references (MAD pages), AMS articles about Moore that say nothing about his supposed racism, and a dead link.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.74.14.180 (talk) 03:03, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to handle the issue of RLM's racism

message: This article cites two recent articles on R.L. Moore, citing both in support of the statement that recent articles on Moore don't discuss his racism. Unless both articles both criticize other articles for ignoring his racism, this seems like original research. 
It would be useful to discuss Moore's sexism. Moore's student, Mary Ellen Rudin, states that Moore treated her as one of the boys and as exempt from his often repeated statements about (in Moore's view) the weak mathematical ability of women (in her interview in (More?) Mathematical People).
:I also came across a lot of stuff about Robert Lee Moore recently. One relevant anecdote reported that he once accepted a black student, but at their first meeting, he told the student something like "You are starting with a C and working down." My recollection said that he was not against women mathematicians and may even have been relatively tolerant of Jewish students, again considering the mood of his times. (When I was at UT there was a period I shared an office in the building they named for him, but only after he was safely dead.) (As usual, my feeling towards Wikipedia is too low to do the work of adding such information to the article. Heck, I don't even feel motivated to include the links to the relevant books. Pretty unlikely anyone else will have as good an opportunity to improve the article, but I hate the spam and Wikipedia does not, IMNSHO, care enough about suppressing spammers.) Shanen (talk) 05:17, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops, had to come back and this time noticed that the quote I mentioned was included in full detail in the quotations part of the article. Pretty sure the version in the book I read didn't include the word "welcome" however. Shanen (talk) 06:12, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Shanen the quote I just read, that prompted me to visit this Wikipedia entry was in reference to RH Bing. "This did not endear him to Moore, who did not like older students, especially those who had spent the previous years teaching high school. But Bing was in good company: Moore did not like black students either, nor Jewish students, nor female students, nor Yankees. A black student who wanted to join his class recounted that Moore told him, 'Okay, but you start with a grade C and can only go down from there,'" George G. Szpiro, Poincare's Prize, The Hundred-Year Quest to Solve One of Math's Greatest Puzzles, page 126. Randyg271 (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research on [[racism]]; [[sexism]] 

message: Archives of American Mathematics, Center for American History,The University of Texas at Austin
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00310/00310-P.htmlHalconen (talk) 16:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  link suggestion 

message: I have taken the liberty of clarifying the quote about W.E. Hunt, which did not say if Hunt was black or not.   The context of the quote was not clear to me - if Hunt was white then it meant that Moore was tough on people he considered to have no mathematical ability, irrespective of skin colour. If Hunt was black then it it meant he was dismissive of W.E Hunt on racist principles, which is a more serious charge. 
Googling W.E. Hunt reveals nothing.  However I found a personal statement by Hunt at http://math.rice.edu/People/Homepages/rlj/info/whunt.html which reveals that yes, Hunt was indeed black and had a rather remarkable journey to become a Professor of Mathematics.    
I have duly added some information and the cite to the Moore article.  Go easy on me please - I rarely edit Wiki.  RedTomato (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  W.E. Hunt 

message: As a new graduate student at The University of Texas, I was told by my supervisor that he had early in his career attended a Faculty Senate meeting. An old man got up to speak, causing an audible groan to pass through the room. Several people walked out. It was Moore. Further inquiry revealed that Moore had polarized the math department into two warring camps, the algebraic topologists and their adherents, vs. the geometric topologists and theirs. That was the first and last Faculty Senate meeting he ever attended. --Tex (talk) 16:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moore Stories