Talk:Kung Fu (1972 TV series)

message: It should be mentioned that the reason Caine killed the nephew was that nephew shot Master PO.
digitalronin 01:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Emporer's nephew 

message: How is there no reference here to the lack of Asian-American actors in the cast (which would have been a little unusual for the time, but younger readers won't know that). Could someone who knows anything about the show add in a paragraph or two? This Guardian piece might be of a little assistance. — OwenBlacker 13:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was not in reality a lack of Asian-American actors in the cast. The Caine character was half-Chinese, half-American.  Considering that neither Bruce Lee nor David Carradine share that heritage, the point seems moot, since other than the half-Chinese lead character all the other Asian characters in the series were played by actors of Asian ethnicity, afaik. Dlabtot (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

text: OTOH Don Johnson as a Native American? (The Spirit Helper)  That was lame casting. Dlabtot (talk) 01:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Asian-American]] actors 

message: What is the criteria for inclusion here? The recent additions of Judson Pratt and Don Keefer got me looking at this. It seems to be turning into a list of all guest stars. But that seems inevitable with no set criteria. Harrison Ford, Jodie Foster and Don Johnson certainly seem to qualify as 'famous' guest stars, but Season Hubley? Should we even have this section? I'm not sure there's anything remarkable or notable about a TV series having guest stars, a few of whom were or became famous. I admit I am no fan of lists. Dlabtot (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it having been many months, and no one having advanced any justification for including this section, nor any criteria for inclusion, I've deleted it.  If you disagree, go ahead and revert me, and let's talk. Dlabtot (talk) 20:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Notable' guest stars

message: It's hard to believe that Hollywood screenwriters came up with the original story. There is so much detail and Taoist philosophy in the pilot movie. Was it based on a book? Was one of the screenwriters a monk? In the on-screen credits of the pilot movie, it says "Story by Ed Spielman". 114.161.79.57 (talk) 07:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be noted that the Shaolin is not a Taoist order. Dlabtot (talk) 15:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's Buddhist.Toddsschneider (talk) 17:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  There appears to be a connection between the title of this television program, and the 63rd hexagram of the I Ching.   I can't be the first to notice the connection.    The 63rd hexagram is known by the name "kung fu," (though this depends a little on the way it is transliterated.    Most people examining the I Ching, refer to an index where "crossing the river brings luck."    This is actually an essential part of the story line where the protagonist crosses the Pacific Ocean to come to North America.   Does anybody have a reference suitable for citing, so we can mention this in the main article?    216.99.198.237 (talk) 11:11, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Make that Hexagram #61, not #63.   The translation by James Legge translates hexagram #61 as "Kung Fu"  (inner truth) - "movement of pigs in a pond is equal to the movement of fish in a pool" while Richard Wilhelm translates it as "Jung Fu" (English) or "Dschung Fu" (innere Wahrheit) (German).   They are all, apparently, equivalent to each other.   216.99.201.73 (talk) 03:31, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Comment Please note that the I Ching is a Confucian work, not Buddhist.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously. But it's true. 79.106.203.21 (talk) 07:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Wasn't he born in America? 79.106.203.70 (talk) 08:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Who cares? The show is indeed Taoist. 79.106.203.70 (talk) 08:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Who cares? The show is indeed Taoist. 79.106.203.70 (talk) 08:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Where did the original story come from?

message: Why can't the Writer of the Show be the source for this type of information? Wikipedia articles should rely primarily on reliable, third-party, published sources per Wikipedia:reliable sources.  If this material comes from a published source, it can be cited and included.  User:75.51.65.192, where did you get this material?  Let's say for the sake of argument that you are Ed Spielman.  Wikipedia would not be the proper venue for the initial publishing of this statement.  Get interviewed by a trade magazine or newspaper, or publish an op-ed or a book. Wikipedia does not publish original research or original thought. This includes unpublished facts, arguments, speculation, and ideas; and any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position. This means that Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own opinions, experiences, arguments, or conclusions. per Wikipedia:no original research.   Dlabtot (talk) 20:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is so unacademic, that it will not accept the source, as the source. lol 79.106.203.21 (talk) 07:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creator's Notes Ed Spielman 

message: I altered a few claims (one in an angle bracket note) about Bruce Lee. Was the idea his? Was he considered for the role? We can't settle these points, but can only include various verifiable reports. --Uncle Ed (talk) 02:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Claims and attempts to establish who is right

message: "Barbary House," "Flight to Orion," "The Brothers Caine," and "Full Circle" are not the final four episodes, there are 3 more after them. 75.88.107.54 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Not the final 4 episodes 

message: The series created a huge craze for all things kung fu related in the UK - may be worth someone writing something about that (probably re the series' general reception). Ben Finn (talk) 19:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception e.g. in UK

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Caine and Master Po.jpg

message: In the article, Master Kan is quoted as saying, "Avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill. For all life is precious and cannot be replaced." The end of the quote is "for all life is precious nor can any be replaced."Dreese1210 (talk) 04:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: Please improve this article. It is odd that it says so little about the importance of this TV show in US culture: the relationship with Chinese/Asian influences in general, martial arts etc. And very odd not to include anything about why the original show came to an end after only three seasons despite being very popular.-71.174.185.30 (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are interesting topics.  Do you have any sources that discuss them, so that they could be added to the article?  Dlabtot (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  only three seasons 

message: With the launch of the reboot Kung Fu (2021 TV series); it seems it is time to create a franchise article, instead of using this 1972 article as an ersatz franchise article. Kung Fu (media franchise) could be started with a partial copy partial split from this article and expansion. A shorter summary of the follow-ups and sequels would be left behind, that being for the franchise article. The dispute between production and plaigirism with Bruce Lee can be expanded on with content from Warrior (TV series).
-- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Greetings. It appears that Warner Bros. has no intention of making Kung Fu a franchise, since the new series is seen as a substitution, and a "righting of the wrong" made by the original one by having a white actor in the leading role. On the other hand, Matthew Polly's Bruce Lee biography has settled the plagiarism question: there was no plagiarism, Kung Fu and Warrior are two different shows.Maykiwi (talk) 21:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Franchise

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message: Audience scores are not allowed. Please see MOS:TVRECEPTION. 
WP:USERGENERATED content such as from other wikis or from user voted web polls are not allowed. Scores such as those from IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes have consistently been rejected as unreliable source. This means that almost the entirety of the "General response" section does not meet the standards normally required by Wikipedia Television articles. In general the best available indication of audience response to a TV show is the Neilsen ratings, again please see MOS:TVRECEPTION. 
I see from the edit history that adding this section was almost entirely the good faith work of  but most or all of this will all have to go. If you ask Wikipedia Project Television they might be able to explain if any of this can be salvaged, or if any exception can be made but I doubt it. -- 109.76.142.195 (talk) 14:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the section. It was added in good faith but user voted web polls are unreliable and those kinds of sources are rarely acceptable. -- 109.76.129.242 (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audience response 

message: Given that Bruce Lee wasn't really involved in the show Kung Fu, apart from maybe a casting consideration, the title of this section seems inappropriate for an encyclopedic article. Crediblity aside, his involvement is only a rumor or an allegation, so perhaps "Question of Bruce Lee's Involvement" is more appropriate. 4.28.82.26 (talk) 21:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on previous talk page involvement, not going to draw out a delay in what's probably an uncontroversial change. Changed it. 4.28.82.26 (talk) 21:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bruce Lee's Involvement" section 

message: I have read the main page of 'Kung Fu (1972 TV series)' before, someone changed all instances of Caine being referred to as a Shaolin Priest to Monk. Without regard to whether this is technically true or false in real life, Kwai Chang Caine has been repeatedly referred to explicitly as a Priest, and not a Monk. He even refers to himself as a Priest. In the interest of being as authentic and accurate as possible, in facts relating to the Series, I propose that this be changed back to how it was before; Kwai Chang Caine is a Shaolin Priest.
Regards
https://imgur.com/a/g8RC8rq 2001:F40:98C:A16:E4BE:94AD:1EB8:6A72 (talk) 17:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Former monk, obviously. "Priest" is what he was in most of the show. 79.106.203.21 (talk) 07:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Kung Fu (especially pertaining to the original series), Caine is a Shaolin Priest, not a Monk.