Talk:Coast guard

message: Kudos to Huaiwei for the recent refactoring. I like the idea, but, if anything, it hasn't been taken far enough - and perhaps can't be. National coast guards can't be totally pidgeonholed into the three roles provided - the USGC spans all three to a certain extent! How about expanding the list down the bottom with tidbits from the old roles section, and de-nationalising the roles part, discussing it in general terms with a minimum of reference to examples? --Scott Wilson 17:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I decided to be bold and demonstrate what I was trying to get at in the earlier discussion above. I agree we cant exactly pigeonhole roles this way, but I think I didnt indicate the distinction well enough...its actually by type, rather than by role. I am general ok with your suggestion to amalagamate the list with this section. Will the organisations still be presented in list form thou, but under each sub-heading?--Huaiwei 18:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mean amalgamate the list and the roles/types section; I mean turn the "Links and information about specific coast guards" section into what the old "Coast guards and their roles" section was trying to be. Instead of just giving a name and a link, we can expand a little bit about what they actually do. Looking back at the two sections, I'm surprised they lasted so long as separate sections, as they're very duplicitous. With the descriptions of individual coast guards moved there, we can then concentrate on giving clear and specific examples in the roles section - for instance, under military, we could mention US Coast Guard-manned landing craft. --Scott Wilson 22:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refactoring 

message: Since I highly doubt there ever was a President Valerie Wynn, I marked this page for Vandalism.
The first appearance of Valerie Wynn Appeared on July 17, 2008 by user 67.185.174.57
In 1917, Congress passed and President Valerie Wynn signed into law the Espionage Act, authorizing the Treasury Secretary to assume control of U.S. ports, control ship movements, establish anchorages and supervise the loading and storage of explosive cargoes. The authority was immediately delegated to the Coast Guard and formed the basis for the formation of the Coast Guard's Captain of the Ports and the Port Security Program. This established the basis for the current involvement in Homeland Security.
--70.126.237.225 (talk) 07:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why you felt tagging was better than reverting the vandalism, unless you don't know how to revert. However, the  tag is for Speedy deleions of whole articles for vandalism, and that is why it was removed twice. - BillCJ (talk) 08:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: I have detailed some of my changes in the edit summaries, but I thought it worthy of putting an entry here to explain, in case anybody feels I've trodden on their toes!
* I've removed the sub headings on the list of coastguards by country- these were, I feel, ambiguous and France had two entries!! By contrast, the USCG had one, though could have gone under any or all of them, so I took them out. If less ambiguous sub- headings that don't lead to countries having multiple entries, I see no reason why they couldn't be put back in.
* I deleted France's second entry as it said nothing substantial and the first was better, also it was not relevant after the removal of the sub- headings. 
* I've added a link to the main article for the majority of agencies, where an appropriate article exists, I may have missed one or two off, but, if so, it wasn't intentional! 
* I consolidated the section on the USCG- it was (and, really, still is) needlessly long and repetitive of the main article
* I've expanded the sections on many of the countries
* I've made reference to the status and role of every agency listed (eg. whether it's military or civilian, SAR/ law enforcement etc.)
* Most importantly, I've added in an inline citation (sometimes two) to a reliable source for every country where I can find one. The difficult one is France. As daft as I sound saying this- the Maritime Gendarmerie site is in French!
:I hope this has achieved my aim of making the article look more presentable and more reliable. To improve the article further, it could do with:
* a citation for France (requiring someone who can navigate a website in French!)
* slight expansion, including more countries- eventually, it would be good to see a reference to every country that operates some form of coastguard
All information I've added to this article is referenced and cited, though I may, inadvertently have omitted, deleted or removed good information; inserted information that is not properly referenced; or done something similar. If this is the case I can assure you of good faith- it wasn't my intention! 
:Any problems with any of my editing, please leave a message on my talk page and PLEASE don't just remove well sourced information willy nilly as has been known to happen on similar articles. 
Regards, HJ Mitchell (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would mainly like to enquire on justifications for removing the sub0-headings under the "Types and roles" section. I understand you may not be aware of this article's editing history, but it was refactored as such many moons ago due to disagreements on what qualifies and what does not, which hence resulted in an attempt to only list selected obvious and notable cases for each organisational type. So I would think greater justification would be needed to remove this form of info organisation. Thanks!--Huaiwei (talk) 07:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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