Talk:Charlotte Church

message: Of course it is excellent that people contribute to Wikipedia! However, Wikipedia policy states that any claim has to be verifiable - there has to be documentary evidence for it! Articles should also be written from a neutral point of view and in an encyclopaedic tone - they shouldn't sound like an editorial in the Sun. Kieron a m 20:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedia 

message: What exactly did she say about Sept 11? --Gbleem 19:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: she said something about how too much of a big deal was being made about the firefighters and shit. 07:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She just said that they were only ding their job. --Duphin (talk) 12:34, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  9/11 

message: Personally i feel that it's best to be as specific as possible in these cases. Quite apart from the fact that Church strongly identifies as Welsh, anyone clicking on the "Wales" wikilink will immediately be told that Wales is "one of the four constituent nations of the United Kingdom". I've added a source for her 'Welshness', and reverted it to "Welsh". Amo 20:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Welsh or British?

message: I'm not sure her weight is a source of controversy.  It's mentioned in the article in relation to her winning Rear of the Year and the Sensations ads.  While some small controversies did arise from both, I don't seem to remember it being related to her weight.  It seems a tad un-NPOV to claim her weight is the source of controversy, especially since she's gone on record as saying if you think she's fat you need to, and I quote, "get a life". --L T Dangerous 20:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i would agree. what would you write instead? kieron 12:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weight?

message: Does anyone have a reputable source for that? All I can find are wikimirrors, etc. Mad Jack 02:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maltese

message: I've made a number of reverts to this page, resulting in my breaking the three revert rule in rolling back vandalism. Please make sure that I didn't delete any legitimate content in the process, although I don't believe that I did. --Stephen e nelson 21:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting vandalism 

message: I was quite surprised to see no reference to the whole big topless photo incident that she's been associated with in the past. When was it removed? I'm sure there was something in here once. --Deskana talk 20:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That paparazzi got pics of her sunbathing? In no way notable, surely - David Gerard 21:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No reference to the whole "topless" incident? 

message: The official SonyBMG Masterworks discography link for this artist is as follows
*Discography at SonyBMG Masterworks
It (in most cases) contains a full listing of in-print CDs released on the SonyBMG labels within the US (for the moment), along with track listings and in some cases audio clips (which will become more robust in the new year).  Ecommerce links are provided inobtrusively.
I have been informed that it creates a conflict of interest to post these links directly from my account, so please consider adding the page to the link section.  Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Softlord (talk • contribs) 22:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography link 

message: The promo pic will go very soon - a pretty good shot that's licensed under CC-by has been found on Flickr - David Gerard 21:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aaand there we go! - David Gerard 00:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free-content pic on the way 

message: We're being told about her pregnancy twice! 65.93.16.4 03:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We're being told about her pregnancy twice! 

message: Wow..  She's only 21 years??  Why does she look so OLD?? I've met women 35 who looked less weathered than she does.  Is that what smoking can do to a person?  YIKES!
:i doubt it's cos of smoking. i know people who smoke and look younger than other people their age. probably the stress of starting a career so young. she doesn't look old either, tbh, she looks about right for her age! Geeness 10:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree she looks her age, doesn't look old to me at all... --Duphin (talk) 12:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

text: She might look old to an American - she hasn't had her face rebuilt as most American celebrities would have done.
I hate to agree with the initial comment. In 2007 she ran a show on Channel 4 and she seemed as if caught up by her age. Her more recent looks seem more in line with her age, she did not quit that show a moment too soon. --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 21:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prematurely aging 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:CharlotteChurch-tissues.jpg

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_of_the_year#Controversy
The wikipage for 'Rear of the Year' says she got the award in 2002 when she was 16 and it was a controversy. But, I do not find any mention of it on her own page here. Does somebody want to put it up? I presume its safe to do so now that I hear she's over 21.
Abhishek ~~ 18 March 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.215.87.3 (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Rear of the Year' award in 2002 

message: I recently created a page for the Charlotte Church song from 2003, The Opera Song (Brave New World) which she did with Jurgen Vries as I noticed that there wasn't a page for it. Could someone please help me to improve it. Thanks. 92.3.174.235 (talk) 20:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture on that album, was that supposed to be Charlotte Church wearing a Kangaroo beret, where the animation picture seems dated? I do have fond memories of 1999, but that is nothing to do with Kangaroo berets. --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 20:52, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The Opera Song (Brave New World)

message: I added that her original name, prior to her stepfather adopting her, was Charlotte Maria REED. I added links to prove it. It is an important fact, which most people are unaware of, and a necessary part of an encyclopedia article about a famous person. It was removed by someone who believes it is 'too private' to be on the article! It's not a secret, and it is needed to complete the biographical article on this young woman, who has spent many years courting the media and pursuing fame. That is why I'm re-submitting the info this evening.
::I thought her birth name was Charlotte Maria Cooper -- not Reed.  According to her autobiography Keep Smiling, she went by the surname Cooper before she was adopted by James Church.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.188.57 (talk) 21:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia content is determined by what can be verified in reliable sources. There are thousands upon thousands of websites that confirm the birthname of Charlotte Marie Reed. You would need to bring specific sources of her birthname being Cooper and discuss the reliability of the sources here on the talk page prior to making any changes. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 14:27, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Original name

message: I've made some stylistic changes around here, but I want to get around to copyediting the entire article soon.. there's quite a lot of bad grammar and writing in here... »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 19:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: I wonder if she had been "raised an Anglican" (or some other Protestant denomination), would it be worthy of special mention? What next? Pointing out that somebody went to a "Roman Catholic" school, but not mentioning the schooling of somebody who did not go to such a school? Such polite prejudices, no matter how ingrained they are, are far too parochial for an international forum like wikipedia. 86.44.1.115 (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is relevant to a person's life what religion / denomination they are raised as. Jim Michael (talk) 21:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Raised a Roman Catholic"

message: Is Charlotte a native speaker of Welsh? Could/should we add her article to Category:Welsh-speaking people?--Dub8lad1 (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: She doesn't speak Welsh. --Duphin (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native speaker? 

message: Her children's names, as well sourced and well known by now, are Ruby Megan Henson and Dexter Lloyd Henson. For future reference, please do not change those names from the text of the article. I am assuming the changes are vandalism, but just in case people genuinely believe that the names are something different, please be reassured that they have been confirmed on Church's own website as well as others. Sky83 (talk) 15:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of Church's children 

message: Should the article mention that she is a smoker? (92.3.98.99 (talk) 16:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It's irrelevant. TheScotch (talk) 06:07, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

text: I know just as much about tobacco as she knows about moralisations. In short: Not relevant. --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 19:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smoker 

message: In light of Church's statements under oath to the Leveson Inquiry, would it be pertinent to rearrange the Personal life and Controversy sections to reflect her statements at this? She speaks of how many tabloid stories of her have been entirely fabricated.  In particular the Ground Zero story, where her words were taken completely out of context.  Would it perhaps be useful to separate out tabloid controversy from personal life into a section such as that which exists on the Hugh Grant article, In the media?  Church's full statement will be available here soon:
http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/evidence/ in pdf form. Kaleeyed (talk) 15:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the remarks she contests having made should be removed from the article entirely. TheScotch (talk) 06:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leveson Inquiry statement 

message: Do we really need this??? It's common knowledge that she's Welsh and this isn't contested, even by the woeful "everyone is British" camp. --Τασουλα (talk) 19:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for Welsh. 

message: The proposed text fails WP:NPOV because it uses inflammatory language, taken from a tabloid article, to describe events rather than taking a neutral view of the subject. The NPOV policy states, Prefer nonjudgmental language. A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject (or what reliable sources say about the subject), although this must sometimes be balanced against clarity. Present opinions and conflicting findings in a disinterested tone. The events can be summarized, rather than described in detail. Also, consider finding a better source to support the text. Elizium23 (talk) 00:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV dispute 

message: Unless Miss Church has said categorically that she is currently a Christian, can we really say that she's committed blasphemy? An atheist can't commit blasphemy, just as I can't be arrested in the UK for smoking a joint in the Netherlands. 188.221.130.74 (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Committed blasphemy. 

message: In September 2013 played to half  empty student's sports hall! Career Meltdown(Coachtripfan (talk) 09:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If you flop at one gig, is that an equivalent of a career melt-down? Anything that recently has happened that confirms a career meltdown? --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  University gig flop 

message: Charlotte Church has spent her millions according to this report. (Coachtripfan (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wondering if I can win the Lottery, and burn it within this month. Just eerie to think of it. However much of this story is or not true, someone has to gain from her spendings. Am I supposed to have bought stocks and shares in tobacco or something? I was actually thinking, the latest news on her would be an indication that she is sensible, more as such when it comes to personal finances.  
PS: Your money is worth none at all, unless you spend it. --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost her millions 

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message: This edit seems to be in contravention of WP:BLPNAME, which stipulates: "[t]he presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects". --217.155.32.221 (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Privacy of names 

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message: The infobox image was changed by . I am not sure if this is an improvement. The simple fact is that this is a very old photo - it is 21 years old and Church was 13 when it was taken. Our standard practice is to maintain a current, recent photo in the infobox, while other photos can illustrate the biography below. The image that was replaced is from 2005 - still 15 years old, but did show her matured image. I think the current infobox image is quite appropriate for elsewhere in the article, but we need a recent one in the infobox, please. Elizium23 (talk) 05:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image 

message: Age is wrong born in 1986 makes her 35 not 45 176.27.210.74 (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age