Wikipedia talk:HK wikipedians' notice board/Archive 3

message: First, as a new contributor here, my apology if I have missed any important point in the above discussion which, frankly speaking, is a bit longwinded and involves some unnecessary exchanges of, let's say, personal opinion.  I'd like to get back to the original point raised by User:Instantnood: have we come up with any consensus on how to address Hong Kong under various context on wikipedia?  If so, where is it?  If not, is this still something pending resolution here?
(I wish I haven't re-opened a can of worms...)
--Pkchan 10:34, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  

message: Recently, I have made a map showing the administrative division in Macao. I want someone to help translating the words on the map to some foreign languages, so that we can put the map onto some foreign-language Wikipedias too. I already have English and Chinese versions.
(Click here to see the map)
For those who know a foreign language (any language other than Chinese and English), would you please send me the translations in my talk page? Thank you.
Alanmak 05:42, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations wanted (Especially to those who know foreign language(s)) 

message: Hi, all Hong Kong folks. This week we commemorate the 60th anniversary of the complete victory of the Allied Power in the Second World War. This was a significant moment that marked the end of Japanese invasion in Asia. But recently, some Japanese right-wing organisations are modifying their History textbooks, and trying to conceal the shame of the invasion to their yonger generations in Japan. To preserve the truth in the History, to let more people know about what happened in our land during the war , to acknowledge those who protected our land during the war, why don't we collaborate more on the articles about Japanese invasion in the Second World War? This is not limited to the articles about "the three years and eight months" in Hong Kong. Since this topic fits the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the victory of the Second World War, should we also collaborate on this topic this week, besides writing the usual "Hong Kong Weekly Collaboration"? It is a very meaningful task. You guys may take a look at this web site: http://www.rthk.org.hk/special/60yearsofSJWvictory/. You may find some useful information which you can take reference on when you improve the articles.
Here I quote an anti-war song, "Where have all the flowers gone?", to all Hong Kong folks. Let us introspect the harm of wars to the entire world, and the importance of peace. Enjoy the song!
-Alanmak 20:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd love the The Brothers Four's version, the acoustic guitar version -- very ear-catching. ;-) Btw, I thought the lyrics were compyrighted. Alan, you'd better not post them over here. -- Jerry Crimson Mann 15:32, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just leave it. This is just a project page, not an article anyway.  Deryck C. 15:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where Have All the Flowers gone? 

message: I want to hold a HK wikipedias' meetup in mid-September or Octember. I suggest it would be weekend day. See also the discussion at zh:Wikipedia talk:香港維基人列表#香港維基人聚會. Would anyone want to join? If you want to join us, you would sign your name under here.--Simon Shek 15:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Joining or not is date-time dependent. Deryck C. 06:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Tell me the results after the concensus came out. Deryck C. 17:36, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I'll be in Kaiping during Christmas... Deryck C. 13:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I got a generalised, this page not found when I clicked that link... --little Alex 04:37, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link that provided by 石 is incorrect. The correct link to the meetup is in zh:Wikipedia talk:聚会/2006香港春聚報告. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 05:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  HK wikipedias' meetup 

message: I'm going to put the Sun Yat-sen article onto FAC. Hope everybody can have a look of it and improve anything if fits. Deryck C. 15:40, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sun Yat-sen 

message: It could be seen that a lot of Hong Kong Wikipedians are working very hard on the Hong Kong-related articles recently. There are a few relatively new articles in which a lot of good information was added in a short period of time. The most noticible ones are Languages of Hong Kong and Bat dau tu nay. Can we do a little bit more so that we can make these articles FACs? It is a good idea to have more Hong Kong-related articles to be promoted to "Featured" status. This can definitely recognize the effort of all Hong Kong Wikipedians, exemplify the good work of Wikipedia and enable more people to know more about Hong Kong, our beloved hometown. I think it is worthwhile to work on all the articles with titles  "______ of/in Hong Kong". Those articles extensively cover a lot of details about Hong Kong. A good one to work on would be Transport in Hong Kong. What do you guys think?
Alanmak 23:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Transport in Hong Kong... good. Deryck C. 10:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promoting more Hong Kong-related articles to "Featured" status 

message: FYI, there is a Hong Kong Wikipedians meeting this weekend. For more details:  - Fuzheado | Talk 12:05, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong Meetup - Sep 18 

message: Could someone familiar with the history of Hong Kong confirm the 1906 anniversary on September 18, please ?  Were there 10000 people in Hong Kong in 1906 ? How many were left after the tsunami ? This entry looks odd and iffy to me. Thanks. -- PFHLai 11:09, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please take a look at talk:Hong Kong/Archive3#1906 typhoon and tsunami. :-) — Instantnood 12:10, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[September 18]], [[1906]] 

message: I nominated Instantnood for admin. Vote for Instantnood!  --  W  P Talk 05:28, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid I have declined the nomination, since the ArbCom case which has not been concluded will definitely affect, no matter positively or adversely, the opinion and the impression over my past records. Let's leave it to a better timing. :-) — Instantnood 15:47, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For some reason, I found the above comment mildly disturbing. It appears that instantnood assumes general public opinion about him is formed wholely by the arbcom case, and that his fall from grace is to be blamed on the arbcom process above all else?--Huaiwei 16:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

text: The poll would best be conducted without interference. I don't want the voting process be affected by an unconcluded case... no matter it's going to benefit me or bringing adverse impact. To quote Mailer diablo's word on my talk page, this is not the right time. — Instantnood 16:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: We shall wait patiently for the right time then, if it ever comes. Good luck.--Huaiwei 18:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Thank you. — Instantnood 19:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Instantnood for Admin!

message: Flcelloguy has nominated Deryck onto RfA... Hope you can support me!!!!! Deryck C. 16:22, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deryck for Admin!!!! 

message: Could anybody help introduce the noticeboard's Chinese counterpart to the participants here? The Chinese version is desperately in need of writers, the weekly collaboration projects there sometimes only sum up to a disappointing 2 edits in a week. Please! Fankiew ar! -- Tonync (talk) (講) 03:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hong Kong is supposed to be a bilingual place. But since a lot of Hong Kong people were educated in English, the proficiency in Chinese would often be neglected. I think it is extremely important to improve the collaboration and coordination of Hong Kong Wikipedians in both the English Wikipedia and the Chinese Wikipedia.
Admittedly, there are good Hong Kong-related articles in the Chinese Wikipedia, such as the "Languages of Hong Kong" article. But in my impression, the Chinese proficiency of a lot of Hongkongers are relatively lower than that of a lot of Taiwan people in general, although both places use Chinese a lot. There is a lot of room for improvement in our Chinese level. :-) - Alanmak 02:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Is it seasonal..? Coz it's like editors are more active during the summer break. — Instantnood 21:26, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ...I hope it's not seasonal!! It's exactly the fact that we don't have enough writers which gives you the impression that the noticeboard is dysfunctional. Please show your support! -- Tonync (talk) (講) 10:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, many here has an account in the Chinese Wiki, but the HKWNB there is so dark and hidden that nobody can find it... Deryck C. 10:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ......Not sure what you mean by 'dark', but the shortcut WP:HKWNB works in both English and Chinese versions, can't get easier than that!! -- Tonync (talk) (講) 01:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promoting noticeboard on Chinese version 

message: The Chinese version of the "Languages of Hong Kong" has already been proomoted to be a featured article in the Chinese Wikipedia. I hope that the English version can be given a featured status too. But base on my observation, there are a lot of information in the Chinese version that the English version does not have. Shall we further improve the English version for a little bit and try to promote it to be a featured article?
By the way, may those who know a foreign language please help translating the "Languages of Hong Kong" article to that language? I know very very little German, and I have already started the article in the German Wikipedia. I hope those who know German very well can help translating the article into German. Thank you.
-Alanmak 02:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: One thing that we really need to concer with: zhwiki has a lower FAS. Deryck C. 04:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The threshold seems lower over there. — Instantnood 21:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't know if I should agree. It's different here, but I don't know if I should call it "higher".—Gniw (Wing) 03:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaborate on "[[Languages of Hong Kong]]" and make it a FEATURED article 

message: Please help adding Hong Kong-related images to the category by adding category:images of Hong Kong to the image description pages (like this one). Thanks. :-) — Instantnood 21:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Images of Hong Kong

message: The Chinese white dolphin of Hong Kong Collaboration of the Week is missing.  Anyone knows how to get it back? HenryLi 16:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: or  for the time being. ;-) (seems like it was deleted because of the lack of source of information..) — Instantnood 16:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dolphin missing 

message: Cont'd from archive 1: User:Jiang has started a WikiProject for Chinese surnames. — Instantnood 13:19, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Chinese surnames on Wikipedia

message: Just like the M-Train, I think it's time for the article to receive a bit of refurbishment to keep the article up to current FA standards. Basically at this time, there are two immediate issues I can think of :
* Revised reference format, i.e. new 'Notes' section. I'm referring to In-line citations. That'd be great.
* Revised prose for smaller and newer sections.
It'd be great if you guys can lend a hand and keep the article far away from FARC. Thanks! :)
- Mailer Diablo 09:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[MTR]] "Modernisation" 

message: Should it be Wikipedia:HK Wikipedians' notice board (capital W) instead? Wikipedia is a proper noun and should be capitalised. enochlau (talk) 04:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not too sure.. When this page was created, the choice among regional notice boards was split between w- and W-. — Instantnood 06:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those regional notice boards are split between w- and W-, I think the user Timwi has changed the w- title to W- without any consensus (happened once or twice between April 2005 to May 2005, if I remembered correctly). I've the first one noticed the changed of the title of the notice boards. As this page move is not having any consensus. So, the title of some notice boards have to changed back from W- to w-. But anyway, if the page name need to rename/move, please follow the requested move guildlines to nominate the page move.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 14:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, if there have consensus to make a page move, the move needs to check any sub-pages assigned to that page to be redirected to prevent broken parent page.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 14:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I prefer keeping the small 'w' for easy redirection under the "capital first-letter and then lowercase" system. Deryck C. 15:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page's title 

message: from zh:
The HK Wikipedians in zh Wikipedia has been proposed a meeting at January, please see here for further details. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed meeting 

message: Please join the discussion at WP:CFD#Category:Chinese newspapers to Category:Newspapers in the PRC, regarding how the category shall be renamed. — Instantnood 18:59, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Chinese newspapers

message: Some seroius factual errors have been revealed in the process of translating the article into Chinese. Please help! -- tonync (talk) (講) 05:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Elections in Hong Kong]] 

message: I've created a template that will help when typing Chinese characters and then corresponding them with a Cantonese romanisation of the characters.  Template:zh-tcy.  It specifies Cantonese Yale Romanisation.  
:Usage:  
Hong Qi Gong 20:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Traditional Chinese; Cantonese Yale) 

message: I need some suggestions on the Demographics of Hong_Kong series.  I want to edit the menu because half the links on that menu are blanks.  There's a short discussion on its talk page, but I would like more input.  Thanks.  (Also, I noticed that the Chinese version of the entry - 香港人口 - is completely different.)  Hong Qi Gong 22:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need suggestions 

message: Is anybody going/having been to the opening of the Victoria Prison and take some pictures? :-) The Hong Kong Observatory is opening too. — Instantnood 17:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Victoria Prison

message: hi, i see that Hong Kong action cinema is looking v. good (mainly due to user User:Michael Wells), and am preparing to put it up for WP:FA soon. it would be nice to have some fresh eyeballs look at the page and put comments on its talk page (& maybe respond to my comments over there).thx! Zzzzz 20:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hong Kong action cinema

message: Do you people think that it's a good idea to have a template that puts the romanizations in a separate box like with Korean articles? I refer to the Template:Koreanname template, which looks like this in these example articles:
* Gimpo International Airport
* Korean won
* Sinmiyangyo
* KBS
and so on. I know that such a template has worked very well for Korean articles, and has been in use for a long time. In my opinion, it is neater than always having a bunch of romanizations in brackets after the article name. I was thinking that a Cantonese one might consist of the characters, the Hanyu Pinyin, and one or more of Jyutping / Yale / IPA for the Cantonese pronunciation. -- KittySaturn 12:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd prefer the inline style, with a hide button like the one used by some navigational boxes. The template:nihongo currently also allows users to set their own preferences by .css settings. — Instantnood 17:49, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cantonese romanization 

message: Waited for the long time.......... the new Cantonese Wikipedia has been launched. We welcome everyone to participate with this new project. (Cantonese Wikipedia Main Page) :) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cantonese Wikipedia... lol... --Deryck C. 16:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch of the Cantonese Wikipedia 

message: Today HK wikipedians in Chinese Wiki discuss the possiblility of setting up a HK wikipedia local chapter (Wikimedia Hong Kong). This idea is mainly due to the recent bidding of the 1st Chinese Wikipedia Meeting, that a local chapter will be an advantage in organizing functions. Are there anyone here interested in this proposal?Chungpui 13:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm currently involved with the discussion surrounding the Australian chapter (meta:Wikimedia Australia), so if give us a ping if you want any guidance. enochlau (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Wikimedia Hong Kong just has a Draft Constitution uploaded. Please take a look and modify it. Wikimedia Hong Kong is still just an idea now. So it welcomes all suggestions. Chungpui 13:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated the page - Wikimedia Hong Kong, hopefully you guys can understand my poor English.－－Stewart~惡龍 (Chat&講！) 15:09, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should HK Wikipedians set up a local chapter? 

message: Hi guys, I am a HK Wikipedian mainly active on zh:, the zh:HK Wikipedians are planning a meetup in April. All of you are welcomed! (No matter you speak Cantonese/Mandarin or not) For more information, please refer to :zh:Wikipedia_talk:聚会/2006香港第二次春聚. Cheers! --Lorenzarius 18:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  April meetup 

message: 報名已經展開！請從速參加！！Please join us now!
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*聯絡人Contact Person：Angus Lai
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For more details, please look over here.
－－Stewart~惡龍 (Chat&講！) 00:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006香港維基人第二次春聚 HK Wikipedians 2nd meetup 2006