Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User:Sam Spade/Detective agency

message: ===Why would Sam create such a page?===
*Because he felt a need, being a bit overwhelmed with the amount of requests for assistance he recieves as an AMA advocate
*see Sam explain here and here and a reply from the AMA coordinator here.
**These notes by Sam Spade
===Why would EB oppose Sam in creating such a page?===
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*Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations/Gay bathhouse
*Talk:Gay_bathhouse/Archive_2
*Talk:Gay bathhouse/Archive 3
*Talk:Anal_sex#Heterosexual_male_receptive_anal_sex
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**These notes by Sam Spade
*I fail to see the relevance of anal sex and gay bathhouses. Instead, it may be relevant to look at Exploding Boy's comments here: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2004/Candidate_statements/Endorsements/Sam_Spade
 Radiant_* 15:07, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
::My opposition to this page and this organization has nothing to do with the articles above, as Sam claims.  I think I've made my reasons quite clear.  See: here for details.
::In particular, I'm concerned about this quote, taken from the introduction to the relevant page: "We collect data regarding dubious persons and circumstances, and put them to good use at the appropriate time and place."  
::What does this mean?  At best Sam et. al. are making preemptive assumptions about Wikipedia users.  Assuming guilt or indeed, creating a list of "dubious persons" is inappropriate behaviour for an AMA Advocate.  If Sam feels "overwhelmed with the amount of requests for assistance he recieves" (a claim I find highly "dubious," given the suspicion with which he's widely viewed), perhaps he should consider taking a break, or, alternatively, perhaps the AMA needs to recruit more advocates.  Exploding Boy 15:45, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
::Added: I also object to the stated requirements for "membership" in the organization, which include a desire and willingness to "prosecute" "problem users" and to "assist and protect fellow detectives, lay users and anons," and to the fact that Sam appears to be farming out AMA work to non-AMA members.  Really, if Sam's so busy the simple solution is to decline to take on further cases.  If this is an "extension" of Sam's AMA activities, as he claims on the relevant page, then this organization should be sanctioned and its activities monitored by the AMA, and membership should be limited to current AMA members.  Exploding Boy 15:52, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Have a look at my talk page and its archives for evidence of such requests. Sam Spade Apply now, exciting opportunities available at Spade & Archer! 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Context

message: *
*Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations/Gay bathhouse
*Talk:Gay_bathhouse/Archive_2
*Talk:Gay bathhouse/Archive 3
*Talk:Anal_sex#Heterosexual_male_receptive_anal_sex
*
**These notes by Sam Spade
*I fail to see the relevance of anal sex and gay bathhouses. Instead, it may be relevant to look at Exploding Boy's comments here: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2004/Candidate_statements/Endorsements/Sam_Spade
 Radiant_* 15:07, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
::My opposition to this page and this organization has nothing to do with the articles above, as Sam claims.  I think I've made my reasons quite clear.  See: here for details.
::In particular, I'm concerned about this quote, taken from the introduction to the relevant page: "We collect data regarding dubious persons and circumstances, and put them to good use at the appropriate time and place."  
::What does this mean?  At best Sam et. al. are making preemptive assumptions about Wikipedia users.  Assuming guilt or indeed, creating a list of "dubious persons" is inappropriate behaviour for an AMA Advocate.  If Sam feels "overwhelmed with the amount of requests for assistance he recieves" (a claim I find highly "dubious," given the suspicion with which he's widely viewed), perhaps he should consider taking a break, or, alternatively, perhaps the AMA needs to recruit more advocates.  Exploding Boy 15:45, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
::Added: I also object to the stated requirements for "membership" in the organization, which include a desire and willingness to "prosecute" "problem users" and to "assist and protect fellow detectives, lay users and anons," and to the fact that Sam appears to be farming out AMA work to non-AMA members.  Really, if Sam's so busy the simple solution is to decline to take on further cases.  If this is an "extension" of Sam's AMA activities, as he claims on the relevant page, then this organization should be sanctioned and its activities monitored by the AMA, and membership should be limited to current AMA members.  Exploding Boy 15:52, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Have a look at my talk page and its archives for evidence of such requests. Sam Spade Apply now, exciting opportunities available at Spade & Archer! 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Why would EB oppose Sam in creating such a page?