Talk:Kit (association football)

message: Shirts of different colours were used by public school football teams pre-1840.  I have added this to the page.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinigi (talk • contribs) 07:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yj 188.29.202.254 (talk) 18:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: History of Kit

message: I have recently added an article about headgear in soccer, titled Association football headgear.  As it is a form of equipment for the sport, if any of the users and editors of this page could look it over and give me feedback, that would be very helpful!  Thanks! Swanyk (talk) 00:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Association football headgear

message: Replica shirt seems more of a section of the kit article than a free-standing article, at least at the moment. Feedback welcome! --iamajpeg 00:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge replica shirt into kit (football) 

message: Kit (football) → Kit (Association football)- The move would be in-line with the recent moving of the page Football (soccer) to Association Football.--Lucy-marie (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved per request, as I don't see how this can be controversial. Dekimasuよ! 06:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But not with a capital A, I'll move it back to Kit (association football) thanks.  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Very good article, but I have concerns about its Anglocentric nature. I'm not entirely sure how this ought to be rectified, so opposing the FAC would perhaps not be actionable. However, some comments and suggestions:
*Sponsorship: Given that shirt sponsorship was commonplace in continental Europe at the time, its not that relevant that Liverpool were the first English club to do so.
*Also on the theme of sponsorship, I'm fairly sure that Adidas were the pioneers of paying players to wear their  boots, and the feuding Dassler brothers (who owned Adidas and Puma) started the bidding wars and advertising associated with the practice. Pele stopping to tie his Puma laces in the 1970 World Cup being a notorious example.
*Perhaps where possible national teams should be used as examples to replace some of the English ones.
*One thing which don't know whether to consider worthy of mention or dismiss as trivial: the trend of players revealing slogans under their shirts, and the subsequent IFAB decision to ban them. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments, put here to avoid cluttering the FAC page

message: Am I allowed to add a section about the kit for female footballers in muslim countries? Obviously there are some major differences visivi the players' kit in other countries...... 
83.178.19.203 (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as it's appropriately written and reliably sourced then go for it ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's kit in muslim countries? 

message: The current article on goalkeeping gloves in small poorly sourced and creates a disparity of information. The two articles should be merged to give a complete picture of all kit worn by all players on the pitch.--Lucy-marie (talk) 16:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, the only info in the goalie glove article which isn't already in this one is the stuff about different "cuts".  I will have a look to see if a condensed, sourced version of that info could be added here ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The very first paragraph already mentions that the Laws of the Game say that "goalkeepers must wear shirts which are easily distinguishable from all other players and the match officials" - there isn't much to say beyond that on the subject of "why the goalies jersey is different"..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goalkeeping gloves merge 

message: "Scotland wear dark blue as their first ever team was made up entirely of Queen's Park players, who wore their dark blue club shirts for the match"
I thought Scotland wore blue strips with white because its the colour of the Scottish flag. The reference provided states that Queens Park wore blue shirts for the first match, but it doesn't say this is the reason for Scotland continuing to wear blue shirts. Anyone albe to cast some light on this? --Neldo (talk) 13:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As there appear to be differing opinions on this, I've removed it from the article, at least for the time being -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I deleted it because firstly any statement starting "it is possible" is clearly unverified speculation, and secondly because there is no evidence that the first international kit "came from" the first international rugby kit - if it did, then why did the Scottish association football team wear a completely different colour scheme to their rugby equivalents.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish Kit 

message: Why is there no disambiguation link to Kit at the top of the page?  Many, many uses of the term and for a FA users might be confused about other uses.  Keegantalk 05:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because this article isn't located at Kit? chandler ··· 05:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean the "For other uses" template.  Keegantalk 06:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: The article claimed "A kit (also known as a "strip" or "uniform")..." This is obviously incorrect, because a strip doesn't include boots, shin-pads etc. I hope I have clarified this important distinction in the lede. Ericoides (talk) 09:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strip/uniform 

message: The wiki page begins by specifying " 'A' kit" . . . is this correct, to use the article "a" as part of the term? Or should it begin with just the the word "Kit"? Ed8r (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kit? or "A" kit? 

message: The first sentence in the paragraph on FC de Rakt skirts situation doesn't make to much sense to me ("that all players, regardless of gender, must wear the same kit"). From what I understand, the problem there was not that they wore different kits (in fact they all wore the same kit with a skirt, no?), but that any type of skirt is a violation of the Laws of the Game, which specifically demand "shorts"? EnemyOfTheState|talk 09:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added that and it was meant to mean that there is no differentiation between kit for men and kit for women in the Laws of the Game.  It's not intended to mean that all players on a team must wear the same as each other.  I'm open to suggestions as to how to word it more clearly...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FC de Rakt skirts 

message: I have removed the Image as there are a number of images all ready within this article and the addition of more Images is creating image congestion. the caption with the Image also failed to state the purpose for including the Image.--Lucy-marie (talk) 18:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Curious since it would have been better to expand the caption - this is a unique example of football kit and you've removed it because the caption wasn't good enough.  I'd suggest we remove some of the more banal images, replace the de Rakt image and add an appropriately informative caption.  Please consider that this is a featured article and, as such, has undergone an extremely rigorous review process.  I would advocate the use of talk page discussion before simply removing image after image.  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: FC de Rakt Image

message: It appears as if this article has too many images, Can we discuss which images are truly appropriate for the article and which are banal and superfluous. Not all images deserve to be in the article.--Lucy-marie (talk) 19:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree completely. So perhaps we should invite members of WP:FOOTBALL to discuss this, particularly as it's a featured article, recently on the main page?  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My screen resolution is slightly lower than average, and I do not get the impression that the page is congested. What resolution does a typical netbook use? Oldelpaso (talk) 08:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to be compliant with WP:MOS and that (I think) suggests screen resolutions of 800 x 600 should be used to test the layout of the page.  The Rambling Man (talk) 09:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Congestion 

message: There is a myth that Spurs pioneered the retro trend in the 1991 FA cup final. Several French clubs were wearing this baggy style during the 1988-89 season. When Clive Allen played at Bordeuax, they had a baggy design.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.212.158 (talk) 16:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spurs 1991 

message: I'm not sure if this is true but I remember reading somewhere (I believe here) that there are a few clubs that have the right to always wear their 1st choice kit, no matter if theres a clash. I think it was Preston North End for being the 1st club to go a season unbeaten, Reading for being the "Royal" club and (I think) Sheffield F.C. for being the worlds first football club. It was also saying that the clubs seem to disregard this historic right to gain more sponser revenue. Was this ever on this page? The C of E.           God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:13, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that that is a myth -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: From The Guardian: "Last week, we chopped down the tall tale that Notts County don't have to wear an away kit because they were the first team in the football league, before stuffing it into a large bag marked "completely untrue". But that hasn't stopped some of you from claiming that this special dispensation refers to other league clubs.  "It's actually Preston North End who aren't required to wear away strips by virtue of them being the first double winners," ventures Henke Larsson., while Mad Dan Eccles reckons: "Reading don't have to because of being in Royal Berkshire (or something like that)."  Well, you're both wrong. John Booth, the Preston press officer, says: "It's a load of rubbish. We're governed by the same Football League rulebook as everyone else." While his counterpart at Reading, Craig Mortimer, says much the same thing. "I've heard of this before, but while I haven't spoken to the Football League about it, I doubt very much whether they'd allow us to play all our matches in our home kit."" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No change teams 

message: My English is to bad to write on the article, so I'm writing here. Sorry. The article said that Leeds began to sell replica shirts in 1975 ; but Paris Saint Germain FC sold its first replica shirts in december 1974 (Paris Saint-Germain FC-Stade de Reims, matchday programme, december 8, 1974, p.8 : Six sizes available of the replica shirts were on sale since december 15, 1974 ; Six selling spots in Paris or by mail order. The PSG president was the fashion designer Daniel Hechter, and for him it was natural to sell that kind of stuff. I really dont know if they were the first to do that. I really doubt it. The article said that a German club introduced adverts on the shirt in 1973 ; French clubs can have adverts on their shirts since 1969 (:fr:Alfred Wahl, Les archives du football. Sport et société en France (1890-1980), Paris, Gallimard, 1989, p.330 ). With only 6000 spectators average per game in Division 1 at that time, they badly needed money... Clio64B (talk) 00:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes 

message: There is no correct data available about when the IFAB made wearing of boots obligatory. There are tails about India's national team which played bare-footed in the Olympics 1948. I have only a rule book of 1948, and there are boots termed as a part of kits.     --213.225.0.173 (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Lawes of the Game, given June 1st, 2016, allow to play without boots for a short time. If a player looses his boots he may play until the next break (it is allowed to score a goal). In the past it wasn't allowed to play without boots (player had to stop), if he didn't, he was cautioned. Since (maybe) 2012 it was allowed to score a goal if the player lost the boots by scoring.  --213.225.15.186 (talk) 14:48, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boots 

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message: Was 1994 really the year officials were allowed for the first time to wear others colours than black? According to the reference, this is not the case. Or ar least I have seen officials at the 1986 World Cup wear red strips... All N Ever (talk) 12:49, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The existing reference in the article says this was the case, and the BBC agree.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This picture from the 1986 World Cup shows the officials in black -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:01, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As does this one from 1990..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This photo is from 1986 All N Ever (talk) 13:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: My assumption (and that is all it is) would be that in that particular case the ref had to change because a black shirt would have clashed with Scotland's navy shirts.  So presumably the 1994 tournament was the first where refs wore colours other than black in circumstances other than a clash.  Maybe it would be more strictly accurate, while not contradicting the sources, to reword the article to "for the 1994 World Cup, FIFA dispensed with black strips for officials" or similar wording....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess you're right :) All N Ever (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  First time? 

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message: Kit 2402:3A80:1BA9:957E:95C2:32FC:7825:4C1E (talk) 10:26, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argantena kit 

message: Mazulu fc siyeza on 27 April 2024 on mabhida stadium sizonibuka siyisikole SASE bunyebethu high school from emsinga tugela ferry sifuna ukuzonibukela eduze sihamba no coach wethu ungidi  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.113.196.110 (talk) 18:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazulu Fc