Talk:Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory

message: I changed the "Comparison to QW" part because the previous version said the gameplay was hugely different to WET, whereas in fact QW's gameplay is similar- the classes and objective based gameplay are the same. I also described the changes and cleaned up the comparison to Battlefield 2. - October 14th
I thought the bonuses gained from getting level 4 in experience in each class are available even when spawning as a different class. For example, non-medics with level 4 in medic experience will still have an adrenaline shot. Is this mod only for sure?
*Battle Sense and binoculars: This is one I'd intended to test myself, but the most recent edit states that players 'can now also spot them with binoculars' (emphasis mine). Has the game changed lately? Or, as I suspect, is this an ETPro alteration? Not in etpro, but another mod.
*Stabbing in/from the back: There was nothing wrong with the original wording; indeed, 'stab in the back' is the more conventional phrase.
*MG42 crouch/lay: The alteration is incorrect. The soldier must be prone to deploy the MG.
*Seawall Battery objectives: The 'and' is misleading, as it groups two separate objectives (the assault ramp and the bunker).
*Gold Rush objectives: The edit 'with the truck'/'with it in the truck' seems redundant, and I think the older form reads better.
*Würzburg Radar objectives: Again, 'and' has replaced punctuation, misleadingly grouping objectives. (The defence of one entrance does not hinge on the defence of the other, for instance.)
*Fuel Dump objectives: Both gate and grate are correct, referring to separate targets.
I'm changing the MG42 and Fuel Dump entries now. If there's no discussion on the others, I'll edit or revert them after about a week. -- Perey 11:22, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed changes 

message: Please read the News & Press archives at . Enemy Territory had a chequered development lifetime, being variously conceived as a standalone, an expansion, commercial, free...
In any case, the reverted edits are wrong. It was at times (for instance, at the point when single-player was cancelled - see February 2003 at the above site) intended as an expansion to RtCW, even if at other times before and after it was meant as a standalone. And it is certainly in no discernable way set in the Wolfenstein universe. I have yet to visit any castles, foil any supernatural plots or shoot anything non-human in ET! (Unless one counts Medic-revived players as undead...) -- Perey 00:09, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion or standalone? 

message: * I as a random browser and an active player would like to add that it has been stated by a ClanBase supervisor (Killerboy) who could be considered an "official source" that to his estimates approximately 10% of current players (on ETPro, the competitive mod) cheat currently. That is quite many, but it's complex as the cheating is more common in other groups of users than some. For example, polish players are very often thought to have cheats. While it might sound racism, I personally have bumped onto very many  cheating polish teams in 6vs6 that I can't even be surprised by polish cheaters anymore. Many I have busted with the "PunkBuster screenshot" -facility which takes screenshots of how a player sees their game, and therefore is ideal for catching wallhackers (players who run a cheat that allows them to see other players through walls), although modern cheats usually have "Pbscreen blockers" that compromise this anti-cheat. I think the usual story is that one player in the team gets their hands on a cheat, and then distributes it to every other member of the team, urging them to start using it. It's a shame though.
Also there was a mod in development, AntiPro, to stop cheating. To my understanding it used quite advanced detections for cheats and could catch most nowadays undetected cheats. The developer stopped making it some days ago, stating that he had "Problems in real life". It was told that the anticheat part of the mod was already completely ready, the mod itself only requiring a bit of server-side tweaking and fixing of a few minor bugs. 84.251.5.184 (talk) 13:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Cheats Dispute

message: this is starting to annoy me
you all edited this artilce and didnt even place the needs, like
Graphics Engine, Developled by, Published by, Ratings, Modes ect
even if that isn't there
There isn't any part for Requirements like graphics card, memory ect:-(
><ino 08:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing 

message: The submachine guns paragraph first states that the Thompson and MG40 are identical, and then it goes on to specify how they are actually different. Which is it? I would change it, but I don't know which story is the correct one.Tommstein 10:27, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-contradicting paragraph 

message: There is a small paragraph claiming that Enemy Territory: Quake Wars is a sequel to ET, however other than the two words in the name, the class-based gameplay and the same developer there is very little to tie them together. Generally, a sequel continues on within the same universe or with the same characters, however the paragraph itself notes that 'It will not carry on the location or the time setting from RTCW:ET but it will be set in the Quake universe.'
Is this paragraph even necessary? Chirikov 01:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel? 

message: I think the external links section has too many community boards in it.  First off, there should be only English boards on the English wiki.  Second, sites like these are often advertising driven, and could easily be ad spam.  Any thoughts? --Ignignot 15:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned up the links, if a mod is that notable it should get its own section and link from there. BJTalk 01:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added links because I merged the article Enemy Territory Fortress into this article. -- Matthew Edwards 01:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: the jaymod has lots more maps the the six here 65.87.45.242 20:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: jaymod

message: I am going to tag this article as needing wikifing.  It is excessively strategy guide oriented at the current time.  I think it is a decent article but in no way a good article. Sir hugo 15:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikify

message: I have twice removed Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory - Help Site by Alex Schubert from the external links section.  First, Wikipedia is not a collection of links.  Second, it is Wikipedia policy to not include fan links or, when necessary, include at most one or two.  Finally, the specific link in question has virtually no content.  It's completely non-noteable.  --ElKevbo 04:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And that's my 3rd revert - I'm done for today.  Add it again Mattrock1988 and you'll be in violation of the WP:3RR and I will report you.  I apologize for threatening you but your unwillingness to even discuss this change is quite frustrating. :(  --ElKevbo 19:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of Alex Schubert's fan site

message: http://velocity.lunarpages.com/ - "favorite" stategy guide often used as source of information in our clan ... should it be added to links? I think it might be good source of extra info/tips/tricks, as they are not in the article, at least not all of them :)Bilboq 17:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not for strategy guides or link farms.  External links should used for information useful to the article such as one that talks about the history the influence ect.  Other then those sites the official links will suffice for strategy information.Sir hugo 17:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, but this is by far the best resource. At the very least, it belongs more then the list of slang. I've played the game for countless hours, and I've never heard some of those terms. Backrape? Axeman89 00:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the slang should take a hike too.  But I havent yet had the time to police it to see if it needs cleaning or to be shown the back door.  I haven't looked at this guide yet so if we want to take an informal vote on the topic go ahead.  I will stay out of the voting till I get a chance to see the guide.  If you are for it then just state something to that effect.Sir hugo 12:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I think the slang should stay... I was the one who added it! Almost every term on there I have seen used inside servers. Some do need to be corrected, like the proclaimed difference between spawn camping and killing. However it is genuine info and if you haven't heard the terms you haven't had experience in popular ET servers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.5.177.46 (talk) 08:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ET Strategy Guide 

message: there is a M97 shotgun now in the game ````
:Is it in the regular game or one of the mods?  If it is in a mod it doesnt warrent addition to this page just to that mods page if it has one.  Remeber this should be encyclopedic.--Sir hugo 11:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we should create a small section for notable mods then?  Have their name and a brief description.  All mods that will be added must be discussed and some sort of verifiable link needs to be provided for each one, hopefully that mods official page.Sir hugo 12:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think listing the mods with links to their respective Wikipedia page is sufficient.  If we start listing mods and their "features" it will quickly grow into something much larger than a "small section".  Just IMHO.  As for the shotgun, it's a jaymod-only thing (although no quarter has something similar it isn't really finalized yet), and "most" servers aren't adding it.  ETPro/ETPub (no shotgun) both have more users and servers than Jaymod (http://et.tjw.org/ets/stats/current/mb/mods.html). 67.184.132.1 23:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: new wep

message: I don't think the mention of specific players in the slang section is really necessary. For instance, I've played ET since it was launched and I have never seen anyone use the term "h3rtillery." Naming specific players who are examples of a slang term is also unnecessary. Unless the player rises to the level of someone like Fatal1ty, they're hardly notable.216.24.2.130 14:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Player names

message: Where can I order this game? I tried to search it in amazon.co.uk and also there this game didn't appear. Where can I buy it? Please help! Morris Munroe 08:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This game 

message: I changed the article to say that the time delay is four seconds, but was reverted (back to five seconds). I have now timed it with a stopwatch and it's definitely closer to four seconds than five seconds. Please check for yourselves too so that we can agree on what to write. Thanks. —Bromskloss 22:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, nice to see that we agree. —Bromskloss 08:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grenade time delay 

message: I really think it should be removed. It's not at all encyclopedic.
--Pkaulf 16:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slang section 

message: Anyone notice the clans section? Think someone from G!X came over and edited it.
:G!X is the worst clan ever.
Dont know if this is such a good idea. To maintain this is a lot off work.
I'm sorry, but G!X clan does not deserved to be mentioned in the clans section. First off, having a reputation as the biggest fail in Enemy Territory and the clan filled with the most noobs, hackers, and 5 year old retards who think they are skilled does not mean you have the right to advertise your team on Wikipedia. If you ask me, the clan section should contain teams such as MegaProGaming, Impact, idle, Overload, and other teams that have earned reputations as elite. Really, the 4 that I have mentioned are truly skilled teams (not like G!X, because honestly I don't know any that have successfully entered into a semi-competitive environment.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstarznemesis (talk • contribs) 05:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  G!X Clan 

message: This game is full of bugs. After many hours of playing with it, i can say SplashDamage must improve the shots. For example, when targeting in face to face doesnt give you headshots.
Only interest is a free game. nothing more. 84.5.39.119  (talk • contribs)  Comment moved from main page by Sir Intellegent (talk • contribs)
u must be a bad shot, when u aim at the head, the helmet goes off at the first shot  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.188.104 (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buggy 

message: This article does not follow the guidelines set forth by the Video games Wikiproject—the game description is excessive. "Articles on computer and video games should give an encyclopedia overview of what the game is about, not a detailed description of how to play it or an excessive amount of non-encyclopedic trivia." Someone needs to remove the extraneous information. ~MDD4696 00:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed this information. It was way too detailed for an encyclopedia article. We need general overviews like what I have left. Please don't revert it. TTN 02:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game description excessive 

message: Old, lost merge proposal that has never been discussed. No opinion. Pairadox 00:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[ Enemy Territory Fortress]] 

message: I added XPilot to the "See Also" section because I feel that there is a continuous line of progress between XPilot and W/ET.  They are both open-source (I am aware that it is not 100% true in ET's case), are addictive FPS games (yes, XPilot is thrid-person, but I am trying to emphasize its pioneering aspects as an MMOG) and they both are driven by meta browsers. XPilot is now rather obsolete, but I think that it is very helpful to show the reader that there is a 15-year arc of development and innovation that leads to the W/ET we enjoy today.--Mightyms 06:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  XPilot 

message: I feel that this sentence in the Competition area of the article violates NPOV:
"Also more and more clans have been started, one of the greatest clans on the planet hosting ET and many other games is Genesis Knights (www.gkclan.com)"
This strikes me as more of an advertisement for the Genesis Knights than informative text.  It's also a grammatical nightmare.  Thoughts?--Jiangyingzi 15:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You've got to be kidding me if you're asking that. --nlitement [talk] 15:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV:  Competition area, Genesis Knights text 

message: I noticed there is no mention of Jaymod and No Quarter (NQ) mods.  They a probably the two most common and probably should have some reference. 71.92.157.26 17:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is now. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 12:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jaymod & NQ? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Et logo.jpg

message: Why does enemy territory fortress direct here without a single word about the mod? http://www.etfgame.com/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.253.205.70 (talk) 14:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is partly readded because it is relevant to the subject. Having played this mod I witnessed this mod was quite popular albeit for a relatively short amount of time therefore deserves a mention in this historic article. The info as-is is quite sparse tho. --Goatrancer (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  There used to be a separate article with good information, just external links should be fixed, but at some point it was merged with this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Enemy_Territory_Fortress&diff=155321486&oldid=114206485. Since the info about ETF in this article has been removed, I'll try to contact the author of the merge Matthewedwards to undo it and we can fix the links (as far as I know ETF now lives here http://etfgather.blog.com, the full game can still be downloaded and there's a small community still playing). Gianluca Hotz (talk) 22:17, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirected from enemy territory fortress 

message: The Enemy Territory ladder in TWL was removed a while ago (well, not removed, just made inactive so that official matches in the ET ladder are no longer monitored by admins). In my opinion, ClanBase and ESL are probably better examples. For the ETPlayers from North America, somebody could include STA or ETL...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstarznemesis (talk • contribs) 05:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  TeamWarfare League 

message: Still not entirely sure why Enemy Territory: Quake Wars is even mentioned. The only relation the two games have is that they have the words "Enemy Territory" in it. It's sort of like saying Uncharted is a sequal to Barbie's Uncharted Island: The Game...the two are in no way related... —Mosif 21:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quake Wars 

message: I think it would be a good idea to add a section about the maps (maybe not the Mod maps) and their objectives, as the other Wikipedia entries in different languages on W:ET has one. I don't have time to do this now, but if you call a vote I am in favor of adding it in. 70.15.212.110 (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Request 

message: I have added on WIKI section about GPL based projects.
Currently there are two "active" projects based on GPL license. ET:XreaL and OpenWolf ... More information about that you can find on Splash Damage forum.
Little info - ET:XreaL is updating only renderer engine, while OpenWolf is updating entire engine.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endless851 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  GPL Projects based 

message: It might be worth mentioning that Even Balance has dropped all support for W:ET.--Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs)  16:51, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Even Balance dropping support 

message: "due to problems with the single-player aspect"
That's marvellously vague. Does anyone know what the problems were? Couldn't they think of a story, or couldn't they get the scripting to work right, or what?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.81.0 (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singleplayer 

message: Is it legal to note on wikipedia that a Quakelive.com style WolfET remake is in the works?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sklepmen (talk • contribs) 16:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality 

message: For discussion's sake, the license file for Enemy Territory states:
:
The blog post For Clarity's Sake, Please Don't Say "Licensed under GNU GPL 2"! was published in 2017, whereas the repository is from 2012. It is not our job to fix Id Software's ambiguous license naming as we need to stick to what is verifiable. IceWelder [✉] 11:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  License