Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Rhode Island

message: As a basic principle, I think it needs to be noted that NRHP HDs are well-documented, wikipedia-notable topics. doncram (talk) 06:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Principles to be applied

message: (Whether to merge or not with Carolina, Rhode Island was under discussion at Talk:Carolina, Rhode Island (discussion opened by me).  I moved the discussion to here. -- Doncram)
An editor has proposed that Carolina Village Historic District be merged into Carolina, Rhode Island article.
Actually, there is no source about the location of Carolina in the current article.  It is asserted now in the Carolina article that it is a village in two towns, but honestly i wonder if that is only speculation to echo the fact that Carolina Village Historic District is a historic district that spans into both Charlestown, Rhode Island and Richmond, Rhode Island.
There is no notability of Carolina asserted or supported, other than its association with the NRHP HD which is clearly notable and for which there is an extensive reliable source available (the NRHP application document).  I say let the village article exist and continue, and collect any stray information there about the village, and allow the NRHP HD article to be developed as a strictly sourced article about the buildings and other elements, and how they speak to history of the area.  A historic district article is like an article about a collection of artifacts in a museum.  Note: To merge the two with any claim that the village and the NRHP HD are the same would introduce a fabrication, WP:OR, that they are the same.
Sorry, but basically there is no information developed that indicates the two areas are the same, and there is no information available to establish whether the histories are the same.  Could this merger proposal be withdrawn until a later date? doncram (talk) 11:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to do a quick online search to alleviate your concerns. The fact that the location of the village and historic district coincide in the GNIS database should be a good indication. It is also easily found in that the village straddles the town line (there is an official state document that lists what town(s) villages are in). How about we merge to consolidate information and make it easy for future editors to expand the topic of "Carolina" and then we think about splitting at a later date when content is sufficiently developed? --Polaron | Talk 13:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding Carolina, the Rhode Island Historical Commission says: "Except for the condition of the mill complex, the nineteenth century village is relatively intact and has been entered in the National Register of Historic Places." See page 11 (page 26 of the PDF) in this document, published in 1977 (3 years after the National Register listing). --Orlady (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The two Rhode Island Historical Preservation Commission reports cited in Carolina, Rhode Island (the one for Richmond and the one for Charlestown) contain a lot of information about Carolina and the National Register listing. They were sources for much (but not all) of the content that I have contributed for the Carolina article. The PDFs for both reports are linked in that article. I hasten to point out that I am not the one who originally located them -- it was Polaron who first pointed out their existence. --Orlady (talk) 15:55, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Carolina Village Historic District

message: Whether to merge or not with Wyoming, Rhode Island is under discussion at Talk:Wyoming, Rhode Island. doncram (talk) 07:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wyoming Village Historic District

message: I think you meant to say "Peace Dale", as in Peace Dale, Rhode Island and Peace Dale Historic District. There has been some discussion at Talk:Peace Dale, Rhode Island. --Orlady (talk) 03:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, thanks.  Section title corrected from something else to "Peace Dale Historic District".  There seems to have been a merger proposal on the Peace Dale Historic District article, with link for discussion at Talk:Peace Dale, Rhode Island. doncram (talk) 18:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Peace Dale Historic District

message: It has been raised at Talk:Noank, Connecticut that there may be additional Rhode Island cases where NRHP HD names have been redirected to town/village/neighborhood articles and/or there have been possibly inappropriate mergers.  Reviewing all the HD items in all of the RI NRHP list-articles, I mostly see very nice development of good stub articles, often including great photos.  Out of hundreds of NRHP HD items, I see relatively few with potential issues, and list all 25 of them here.  After some resolution is found for issues open at Talk:List of RHPs in CT, I suggest revisiting the following:
*In Bristol county's NRHP list, i see no issues
*In Kent county (2 potential issues):
**Apponaug Historic District currently redirects to a neighborhood.  See new discussion at Talk:Apponaug.
**Pawtuxet Village Historic District
*In Newport county's NRHP list, i see no issues
*In Pawtucket's NRHP list, i see no issues
*In Providence's NRHP list, i see no issues
**I note that Roger Williams Park Historic District redirects to Roger Williams Park, but the 427 acre area of the park is consistent to the 430 acre NRIS-reported area of the HD, and the Elkman output including left hand side information appears to be just about the park, so it appears they are coterminous.
*In Providence county outside of Pawtucket and Providence (14 potential issues):
**Albion Historic District redirects to Albion, Rhode Island
**Chepachet Village Historic District redirects to Chepachet, Rhode Island
**Forestdale Mill Village Historic District redirects to Forestdale, Rhode Island
**Georgiaville Historic District redirects to Georgiaville, Rhode Island
**Harrisville Historic District (Burrillville, Rhode Island) redirects to Harrisville, Rhode Island
**Limerock Village Historic District (perhaps misspelled in NRIS?) redirects to Lime Rock, Rhode Island
**Lonsdale Historic District redirects to Lonsdale, Rhode Island 
**Oakland Historic District (Burrillville, Rhode Island) redirects to Oakland, Rhode Island
**Pawtuxet Village Historic District redirects to Pawtuxet, Rhode Island
**Rumford Historic District redirects to Rumford, Rhode Island
**Saylesville Historic District redirects to Saylesville, Rhode Island
**Slatersville Historic District redirects to Slatersville, Rhode Island
**Smithville-North Scituate, a NRHP HD, redirects to Smithville-North Scituate, Rhode Island
**Union Village Historic District redirects to Union Village
*In Washington county's NRHP list (9 potential issues)
**Bradford Village Historic District (Westerly, Rhode Island) redirects to Bradford, Rhode Island
**Carolina Village Historic District redirects to Carolina, Rhode Island
**Hope Valley Historic District has a merger proposal to merge with Hope Valley, Rhode Island
**Peace Dale Historic District has a merger proposal to merge with Peace Dale, Rhode Island
**Saunderstown Historic District redirects to Saunderstown, Rhode Island
**Wakefield Historic District redirects to Wakefield, Rhode Island
**Watch Hill Historic District redirects to Watch Hill, Rhode Island
**Wickford Historic District redirects to Wickford, Rhode Island
**Wyoming Village Historic District has a merger proposal to merge with Wyoming, Rhode Island
I checked every NRHP HD and that is the complete list of potential issues as i see it. doncram (talk) 15:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete list of potential issues