Talk:Flag of Vietnam

message: Yellow represent the skin color of Vietnamese people
: References, please. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to an article from here, the committee that designed the "red flag with yellow star" (including Mr Nguyen Huu Tien and Mr Le Quang So) stated that: - yellow is the national color of Vietnamese people ("màu vàng có ý nghĩa là màu dân tộc"); and: - red symbolizes revolution ("nền đỏ tượng trưng cho cách mạng"). Since that website is under censorship of the current Vietnam government, and it cites a current official in a government-sponsored conference, I believe that those information is not a fraud from anti-government sources. Thus these no implication of "red blood and yellow skin" as written in this article. Should we change that?Tryst Nguyen (talk) 01:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

text: The design was modified in 1955, long before unification. Kauffner (talk) 13:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: The informal name of the flag is "cờ đỏ sao vàng" (red flag with the yellow star). DHN (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaning of the colors

message: I note the comment that Gia Long's flag was used in 1885 during the Can Vuong uprising.  But what was the historical flag of Annam between 1840 and 1885, i.e. during the reigns of Minh Mang, Thieu Tri, Tu Duc, Hiep Hoa, Kien Phuc and Ham Nghi?  As a student of the Cochinchina Campaign (1860s) and the Sino-French War (1880s), I was under the impression that it was plain yellow (this would explain the later French protectorate flag, which places a tricolour in the canton of an otherwise plain yellow flag).  I note that a plain yellow flag has been included in the infoboxes for some of the battles of the Tonkin campaign and the Sino-French War, while Gia Long's flag has been used for the Cochinchina Campaign.  Can anyone confirm what the historical flag of Annam was at this period?
Djwilms (talk) 01:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nineteenth-century flags 

message: Could some one reduce this sector's size. The current contents are somewhat offtopic and might have some problems as following:
1/This article's topic is flag of Vietnam; not Vietnamese flag. Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag is a community flag; or flag of oversea Vietnamese. If we include this, we should include Vietnamese political flags as well (such as Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang) to maintain NOPV.
2/This sector is undue because most of this sector's contents is better written in Flag of South Vietnam and its size is 1/4 size of historical flags sector.--AM (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnamese Heritage and Freedom Flag 

message: Most of the present Vietnam and former South Vietnam sources suggested that the yellow flag is designed by the artist Le Van De in 1948 for the Bao Dai's pro-French government. So where is this "Thanh Thai" thing came from? This is an exceptional claim that nobody know about. It shouldn't be include in a Wikipedia page without some reliable sources. 198.214.186.128 (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I find it hard to believe that this question is being asked in good faith. You must know that there is an academic source cited in the article: "The yellow flag originated during the rule of Vietnam's Emperor Thành Thái (1890) of the Nguyễn dynasty." (Dang, Thanh Thuy Vo, Anticommunism as cultural praxis: South Vietnam, War, and Refugee Memories in the Vietnamese American Community.) Dang got this information from elders of the Vietnamese-American community, so this is apparently what the South Vietnamese government taught its citizens and soldiers about the flag. The Vietnamese Wiki article has this information as well. They seem to have got it from World Statesmen.org, but the point is that Vietnamese Wikipedians do not share your view that this is an exceptional claim. Sourcing can always be better. But the claim regarding Thành Thái is well sourced and appears on thousands of Web sites. So it is not a reason to be littering the article with a dozen s. Kauffner (talk) 02:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Where is the Thanh Thai's stuff came from?

message: In general, there is no reason we have to call a subject by the name that it was called at the time. We can talk about Vietnamese kings who lived hundreds of years ago, although the word "Vietnam" was not common or official until the 1940s. "Democratic Republic of Vietnam" was never a common name for the communist state, either before or after 1954. Until 1954, it was generally called the Vietminh. It was a state located in the northern part of Vietnam, so I don't really see a problem with "North Vietnam".  I'm fine with "Vietminh Provisional Government" as well. However, this name is also anachronistic since officially the provisional government lasted from August 1945 to February (or November) 1946. IMO, putting so many long-form names in the chart makes it quite long-winded. As these names are rarely used, they mislead the reader as to what these entities are usually called. The long-form names can be mentioned in the text, but I don't think there is a need to give them repeatedly. Kauffner (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Democratic Republic of Vietnam 

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