Talk:Heliconius

message: * Compact the list. Outcomment and unlink subspecies (we don't usually make subspecies articles) or move them to species articles
* Status of Laparus and Neruda needs to be clarified - the list assumes that both are valid, the taxobox lists them as synonyms
* We are not allowed to cite funet directly, but have to defer to its sources. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 11:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: List has been compacted. Laparus and Neruda removed as their are considered to be separate genera. Dger (talk) 01:39, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs attention

message: I moved Heliconius doris to Laparus doris as all four references in the list put it there. Dger (talk) 00:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Laparus'' 

message: Richard asr (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedited 

message: * Under the pupal mating section it is almost implied from what is written that all Heliconius butterflies mate via pupal mating. It might be better to clarify that it is just a large portion, however not a majority. There is about 42% of Heliconius that are involved in pupal mating(Gilbert, 1991).  Those that don’t use pupal mating are actually selective for color which contributes to their mimicry success (Llaurens et al., 2014). 
Gilbert, L.E. 1991. Biodiversity of a Central American Heliconius community: Pattern, process, and problems. Pp. 403-427 in: Price, P.W., T.M. Lewinsohn, G.W. Fernandes & W.W. Benson. editors. Plant-Animal interactions: Evolutionary ecology in tropical and temperate regions. Wiley, New York.
 
Llaurens V, M Joron, and M. Thery. 2014. Cryptic differences in colour among Mullerian	mimics: how can the visual capacities of predators and prey shape the evolution of wing colours?. J. Evol. Biol. 27:531-540.
Devenport.1 (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Content Suggestions

message: *The possible effects on the ecology of Heliconius due to pupal mating is worth mentioning: increased mimicry within a genus and the influence it might have on deterring other heliconiines from developing a preference for a certain species' host plant.Gilbert LE . 1991. Biodiversity of a Central American Heliconius community: pattern, process, and problems. In: Plant-Animal Interactions: Evolutionary Ecology in Tropical and Temperate Regions (eds. Price PW, Lewinsohn TM, Fernandes TW, Benson WW), pp. 403-427. John Wiley & Sons, New York.
*Is it safe to say that some Heliconius exhibit Batesian and Mullerian mimicry at the same time since there is so much pattern convergence between the species and genera?
*I think it's important to clarify that the type of assortative mating that will decrease genetic relatedness between H. heurippa and its parents is either disassortative, or negative assortative mating.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faherty.14 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Content expansion

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message: The article has a somewhat piecemeal structure at the moment, and the grouping of sections under 'Model for evolutionary study' (sic) is distinctly curious. There's also no coherent history despite the mention of Bates, nor sufficient citation of that history. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:52, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
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