Talk:1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus

message: Someone has apparently "hacked" a really disgusting picture into the image page for the map accompanying this article. It cannot be edited out of that page by conventional editing (click on the map -- the picture is above the map).--Shoshoni 13:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Obscene picture

message: Yet another person is asking for citations. These inserts seem to be a distraction. In this case, they seem to be asking for citations for claims made in the book? The book is the cite in this case. The book itself has citations in its exhaustive appendices, but if someone is interested in further following up on claims in a book or paper, they should do so on their own. It is sufficient to cite the book only. It's like people who want citations on plot summaries for TV shows. Summaries of books movies shows etc do not need additional citations as it is clear to readers what is being cited. Sure, we could add a footnote to every sentence on this page and have the foot note say "1491 by Charles Mann", but that is not necessary, nor is it a standard way of summarizing something. Xj 21:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that in this case the wording should be changed to make it more clear that the suppositions and propositions come from the book, rather than anywhere else. Hires an editor 12:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with the above complaints about the article being waayy too long and positive.  The paragraphs on each segment of the book are too long.  However, I'm surprised that this book is being challenged for non-notability, since it was on the bestseller list and reviewed in many places. Dan Carkner (talk) 22:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: scholar.google.com returns about 152 cites. Pawyilee (talk) 13:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: Was there any critics and rebutal of the books or points in the book? at all? No controversies - especialy with rightwing historians..?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.80.65 (talk) 08:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biaised is maybe not a word, but... 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

message: University of Utah (2012, April 9). Farmers of 800-years-ago could teach us how to protect the Amazon -- with raised farming beds. Retrieved April 10, 2012, from ScienceDaily. If it doesn't belong in this article, please suggest another. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New report 

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message: I have a copy of his 1491 book published by Granta in the UK titled ”Ancient Americans, Rewriting the History of the New World.” No use of 1491 in the title. Is that a separate esition of the book that should be listed in this section?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ossianthegreat (talk • contribs) 22:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, that is so. Added it . --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Editions

message: It states he focused on the Mayas and then there is a quote by another author about them but then the next paragraph paraphrases what Mann states about the slash and burn created grasslands of the North American plains and the terrace agriculture of the Andes, both quite a distance from Yucatan. So what did he say about the Mayas? It almost seems like a paragraph was deleted at some point. 2A02:8109:9B80:3CDC:926:2330:E8F4:B40F (talk) 17:52, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe so - Mann is drawing a broad picture of both Americas in these chapters, and comparing South, Meso, and North American cultures. The summary could probably be expanded a little (although it is quite extensive for a single book article already!) but there's no misrepresentation as far as I can tell. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:29, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part three summary: What about the Mayas?