Talk:Horse show

message: It could be just me, but I highly doubt the picture in the structure section is actually of side-saddle, given that they're not using side-saddles,have a leg each side of the saddle and most importantly, the picture's notes say that it is a saddlebred class. However, if someone could please double check this? Akebai (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo in "Structure" is a saddle seat rider and is labeled as such.  The sidesaddle photo is down in the next section and also is properly labeled. It is currently correct.  Montanabw(talk) 20:16, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Structure

message: There seems to be a bit of confusion about what classes are offered in shows.  The "Horse shows within various nations" part talks about "Horse shows in the United States", but leaves out all English shows.  (Except that the first example given, the Royal, is primarily an English show.)  Then the next section, "Structure", starts with an extensive discussion of English classes.  Huh?  
Seems like this whole part could use a bit of re-writing. T-bonham 08:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably, the whole article needs restructuring.  One problem is that there is TREMENDOUS variation in the terminology used in the USA and the UK.  There is also a lot of terminology variation by discipline, region, breed, etc...just the USEF rulebook is about three inches think when you get it in hardcopy!  Also, the UK people sort of need to weigh in with their own stuff.  Ditto for the Australians, etc.  Because so much terminology is region-specific, it takes a "native speaker" to do it. But I do think that it is a waste of bandwidth to have the huge table of ribbon colors as the biggest section of the article, though it's a nice chart (wonder if someone could save it as a .png or something and click to enlarge it for those who care...?  It is interesting trivia, freaked me out the first time I won a class in Canada and got a RED ribbon! (grin)) Montanabw(talk) 16:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Classes confusion

message: I would suggest replacing the long list of Ribbon colors with a table, like this:
 Prize Ribbon Colors
               	Australia       	Canada             	CzechRepublic  	TheNetherlands  	New Zealand	Norway          	UnitedKingdom	United States     	
1st            	blue            	red                	yellow         	orange          	red        	red, blue, white	red          	blue              	1st
2nd            	red             	blue               	white          	red             	blue       	red             	blue         	red               	2nd
3rd            	white           	white              	red            	white           	yellow     	blue            	yellow       	yellow            	3rd
4th            	green           	yellow             	blue           	blue            	green      	green           	green        	white             	4th
5th            	yellow          	green              	green          	green           	pink       	yellow          	pink         	pink              	5th
6th            	brown           	pink               	violet         	pink            	purple     	                	purple       	green             	6th
7th            	                	purple             	any other color	                	           	                	             	purple            	7th
8th            	                	brown              	               	                	           	                	             	brown             	8th
9th            	                	orange             	               	                	           	                	             	gray              	9th
10th           	                	light blue         	               	                	           	                	             	light blue        	10th
               	                	                   	               	                	           	                	             	                  	
Champion       	blue, red, white	red, blue, white   	               	red, white, blue	           	                	             	blue, red, yellow 	Champion
ReserveChampion	                	blue, white, yellow	               	                	           	                	             	red, yellow, white	ReserveChampion
Also, Germany, Ireland, & France are major horse show countries, but are not in this list.
===Comments, please?===
T-bonham 11:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ribbons

message: T-bonham 11:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments, please?

message: This article uses the jargon term "class" without defining it. Needs a little work there. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 02:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whole article is sort of a mishmash of assorted odds and ends.  If someone has the time to expand it and tie things together, that would be helpful.  Trick is being careful to stay general enough to cover "generic" horse shows and not get too region or nation-specific. If you have good ideas, go for it, just note that there is some good work in individual sections and not toss the baby with the bathwater. (or, put differently, not all horse shows run like those on the east coast! (grin)) Montanabw 04:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Class?

message: I realize at this point the history section just looks like a plug for one show, but I do plan to flesh out the section further in the next few days...  although I agree we do not want a long list of horse shows in this article, this particular show is relevant to the history of horse shows as it was the first horse show in the U.S.   --AeronM (talk) 00:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the paragraph again until this issue is resolved here. I am very serious that these things multiply like coat hangers in a closet, and all it takes is one!   I like Ealdgyth's idea that a history section may be appropriate, but we should also invite people like Katdib and Cgoodwin and Culneacreann (sp?) to provide information on other nations.  Also don't want to repeat material that is already in the United States Equestrian Federation article.  Even better yet, we should consider creating a List of horse shows, sort of like List of Rodeos that would allow everyone to add in their favorite bit. Montanabw(talk) 02:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and for what it's worth, I did a bit of fast research, it may indeed be true that Upperville was the first horse-only show in the US, (though an event's own website is nice to cross-verify with other sources when possible) I saw that the National Horse Show at Madison Square Garden dates to 1883, and claims simply to be the oldest INDOOR horse show.  Just let's think this through and work out the section here.  Montanabw(talk) 02:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Let's keep it posted here and work it in.  I like it!  Sometimes a little mini-gallery of photos can be parked on a talk page while folks are working on an article, and the best that is found can be plopped into the article as needed.  Old photos of the National Horse Show would be cool, also.  Montanabw(talk) 04:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History Section