Talk:R.A.B./Archive 4

message: I am a little confused by the discussion above. It was my impression that the proof of the identity of RAB depended upon cross referencing different foreign editions. As explained in the article, different editions translate names differently. Thus we start in English and have maybe 5 people with possible names. Then in language two one of these is eliminated. In language three a different one is eliminated, and so on. In no single language are all possible alternate candidates eliminated. It is a while since I saw this presented, but it was my recollection that the matter hinged on Scandinavian translations, not portugese ones. It is my further recollection that this process was completed perhaps 6 months after publication of the english editions. As such, Rowling knew that the puzzle would be conclusively solved relatively quickly after publication. Sandpiper 00:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Portugese Leak" issue is regarding the alleged "leak" by the Portugese translator who supposedly told the Portugese Press and others that Rowling told her that Regulus is RAB, when she asked her about the RAB's sex (m/f); presumably to make sure she used the correct sex in verb forms or something in sentences where RAB appeared.  The problem is that there are no current reliable sources available regarding this unprecedentedly phenomenal bit of information.  The only source link provided goes back to a fan site that makes the claim and cites another fan forum web site, which is in Portugese, and says nothing at this time about Regulus or RAB.  So we are stuck in an unverifiable speculation loop.  I have a mind to delete it as unverifiable and in violation of wiki-policy, unless somebody is able to come up with a truly reliable source.  The only reason I have not done so is I think it would spark another revert war, as it did before.  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 16:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It comes from a Reliable Source, as far as I know. The PDF file provided above - http://diarioeconomico.sapo.pt/edicion_impresa/imagenes/2005/PDF/do2511.pdf - comes from diarioeconomico.sapo.pt. Well, that is a well known information site on the portal of a Portuguese ISP. Translation of "diario economico" -> "economic diary". If that isn't a reliable source, then I definetely don't know what a reliable source is. Anyway, I don't know how reliable is a magazine dedicated to economy in this case. It is known and popular for its reputation, I can assure you that. That is NOT a fan site/forum/whatever, nor is it even an individual-made site. It is an information site. * About the topic itself, well the translation says it all. The translator wanted to know the sex of RAB to know whether to refer as "him" or "her", and the answer she got was the full name. Even though that might NOT be the true name, well, that information - Isabel Nunes has asked Rowling for the sex of RAB and the answer was his full name - is true, and can be confirmed in that PDF file. So, why not maintain the section about the "Portuguese Leak"? It is not stating that "the real name is...". It is stating that Rowling has provided A real name, not necessarily THE real name.Angel Of Wisdom 14:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Foreign Translations

message: Oh, and how did the original statement that hermione found only two wizards with the initials RAb turn into one that she found many wizards with these initials? Sandpiper 00:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sure it was one of those 4am drive-by rapid-deployment multiple-edits, done by an HP troll who made his last edit look benignly innocent, making it difficult to spot by the Recent Changes Patrol and CVU squad.  Please feel free to change it so it matches exactly the information provided in HBP.  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 16:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: multiple candidates