Talk:Saint Regis University

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:Saint Regis University is based in Liberia and is accredited by the Liberian Government, nota bene National Commission of Higher Education. St. Regis University was originally chartered January 10, 1984, Created by Decree of the People's Redemption Council Government of Liberia, as a private school. In 1998, St. Regis University added distance education programs as a way to better serve students, offering affordable programs without sacrificing quality, and began a four year accreditation process.
:On August 28, 2002, St. Regis University completed all accreditation requirements and received formal recognition by the Higher Education Commission of the Education Ministry of Liberia as a legal, valid and authentic university, operating under the authority and in conformity with all current laws and regulations ruling educational competency certification of the Republic of Liberia. The Higher Education Commission of the Education Ministry of Liberia is solely responsible for granting recognition to post-secondary education institutions in Liberia including St. Regis University, University of Liberia and Cuttington University College.
:The Republic of Liberia is one of the earliest United Nations Educational Organization UNESCO Higher Education Partners, and a historical American Colony. St. Regis University is accredited as a degree-awarding post-secondary institution of higher education in the form of a university by the National Commission on Higher Education, the Higher Education accrediting authority of the Ministry of Education in the Government of Liberia
:The school grants degrees based on classes and "vocational experiences" and avoids redundant education.
:Many critics claim the latter as irregular as this is different from their traditional opinion and education.
Cites, please, for these assertions? How is this consistent with this school not appearing on the UNESCO list of universities? -- Karada 12:19, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal (Aug 2004)

message: The Ministry in Liberia stated that: No officials from Georgia Professional Standards had contacted the Commission off higher Education regarding these most serious allegations. The statements made by Mr Toth are libelous and defamatory and insulting to the Republic of Liberia and our Education Ministry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.60.42 (talk • contribs)  09:22, 10 May 2006 
:Please stop inserting the above sentences in the article unless you can 1) provide a citation and 2) word them with a neutral POV. And signing your comments on the talk page would be a good idea. BuckRose 20:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ministry in Liberia 

message: Consejero has apparently reapplyed what I consider mild vandalism to the article. Consejero, if that was not your intent please discuss your changes here and get some kind of consensus before making changes. Complaints or suggestions as to what should be in the article belong on this talk page not the article itself. Thanks, Bill Huffman 07:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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===Connected institutions===
:The following are defunct "schools" run by the Regis operators
*Al Qasim University (Pakistan) 
*All Saints American University (Liberia) 
*Bangalore Inst of Science, Tech. and Mgt (India) 
*Blackstone University
*Capital American University (Liberia) 
*Center College of Executive & Professional Development (India) 
*Colony University (Liberia) 
*InTech University (Liberia) 
*James Monroe University (Liberia, operated from Washington, Idaho and Arizona)
*Miranda International University (Tennessee, Washington, and Seborga, Italy)
*Nation State University
*North United University
*Panama Canal University
*Port Rhode University 
*Robertstown University (Liberia, operated from Washington state, Idaho and Arizona.) 
*St. Lourdes University
*St. Renoir University
*Trinity Christian School
*Synergystics (ODA notes it "may" be connected)
*University College for Advanced Studies (India) 
*Van Ives University
*West Coast University (Panama, Western Australia, UK)
 
I also did not find suitable support for this list in the archive.org version of the old ODA website. That lists only some of these "schools."
Is there another source?--orlady 00:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned up the list, as based on the Maine list. TallMagic (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Compiling a list from multiple sources is okay, but encyclopedic only if the list is reasonably short and correct (otherwise, too much listing).  It makes sense if more than one source is combined to demand that list entries are individually cited, particularly on a contentious issue.  See, e.g. the List of unrecognized tribes article.  Compiling a list based on web address ownership is indeed original research.  Wikidemon (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Need source(s) for "connected institutions"

message: :The following are defunct "schools" run by the Regis operators
*Al Qasim University (Pakistan) 
*All Saints American University (Liberia) 
*Bangalore Inst of Science, Tech. and Mgt (India) 
*Blackstone University
*Capital American University (Liberia) 
*Center College of Executive & Professional Development (India) 
*Colony University (Liberia) 
*InTech University (Liberia) 
*James Monroe University (Liberia, operated from Washington, Idaho and Arizona)
*Miranda International University (Tennessee, Washington, and Seborga, Italy)
*Nation State University
*North United University
*Panama Canal University
*Port Rhode University 
*Robertstown University (Liberia, operated from Washington state, Idaho and Arizona.) 
*St. Lourdes University
*St. Renoir University
*Trinity Christian School
*Synergystics (ODA notes it "may" be connected)
*University College for Advanced Studies (India) 
*Van Ives University
*West Coast University (Panama, Western Australia, UK)
</blockquote> 
I also did not find suitable support for this list in the archive.org version of the old ODA website. That lists only some of these "schools."
Is there another source?--orlady 00:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned up the list, as based on the Maine list. TallMagic (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Compiling a list from multiple sources is okay, but encyclopedic only if the list is reasonably short and correct (otherwise, too much listing).  It makes sense if more than one source is combined to demand that list entries are individually cited, particularly on a contentious issue.  See, e.g. the List of unrecognized tribes article.  Compiling a list based on web address ownership is indeed original research.  Wikidemon (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Connected institutions

message: I don't have time today to work it in, but I encourage editors to use this source article which covers much of these crooks activities and the resulting law suit. NY Times --Bobak (talk) 16:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NYT published an excellent summary 

message: Names and details of some of the thousands of British citizens who subscribed to this fraud are apparently available from the BBC sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.79.187 (talk) 11:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We shouldn't link directly to websites that impugn living people - that's a WP:BLP / WP:EL issue.  If the publication of these lists is itself a notable event then we can report that it has been done.  People will just have to take the extra step of using google if they want to find them.Wikidemon (talk) 19:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC INvestigation 

message: I've noticed that there are repeated attempts by some visitors to delete the link to the list of probable St. Regis customers that was published by the Spokane Spokesman Review. This will need to be watched! G-gollin (talk) 04:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes indeed!  However, I do question whether that should be there.  It could be considered a WP:BLP violation because it outs a number of folks who took part in the scheme by purchasing a degree.Wikidemon (talk) 05:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The Spokesman Review article warning "Buyers of bogus degrees named" is a perfectly notable and wonderful article. I see absolutely no conflict with wp:BLP. It's simply an article that warns people that might be tempted to buy bogus degrees that they may be exposed should they decide on such a path. I don't see any conflict with wp:BLP. "This page in a nutshell: Wikipedia articles can affect real people's lives. This gives us an ethical and legal responsibility. Biographical material must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality and avoiding original research." It could be reasonably argued that it would be different if we tried to copy the list into Wikipedia. External articles written by reliable sources do NOT have to follow Wikipedia policies. Referencing an external article that doesn't follow Wikpedia policies does not violate Wikpedia policies in my view but I'm more than willing to consider such a conclusion should anyone present such an argument. Regards, TallMagic (talk) 13:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated attempts to delete the list of probable buyers published by the Spokesman Review 

message: I'm not sure what the purpose of the categories are. So, I'm not sure which way is better but St. Regis University was supposed to be in Liberia not the USA. Why was a category added saying USA? Zugman (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Regis University was supposed to be in Liberia 

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