Talk:Kaul

message: The above information does not seem to be correct. Kaul is a very prominant surname of Kashmiri pandits from Kashmir. The tribal Kauls from Madhya Pradesh do not have anything common with the Kauls of Kashmir.
:Moved this info from article on Kaul page to here for discussion. A separate article on Kauls of Kashmir can be created. burdak 15:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Message 

message: This article is in a bad way. It was clearly not written with regard for the English language. --Maurice45 (talk) 20:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is much improved now. Further improvements by addition of images and content required. -Ambar (talk) 15:58, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad grammar 

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:*For the "no scripts" decision, please see here and here.
Indic scripts are necessary to ensure correct pronounciation, specially for Indian Names. Each language may have a certain specific (& slightly different method) of vowel pronounciation, currently best explained using the Indian laungauges best represented by the Indic Scripts. </br>
Also, since Kaul (Kol, Koul) is a Kashmiri Surname, & the launguage Kashmiri is written predominantly in two scripts today - Devnagari & Nastaleeq. Hence, since here it solves a useful purpose, they should be allowed. </br>
:*For the "no flags" rule, please see WP:MOSFLAG
Indian Flag is removed. 
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:*For unacceptability of using a last name to determine caste, please consider WP:BLP, WP:V and WP:OR
I agree. Have changed the description 'sub-caste' --> 'Community', which I feel is more appropriate.
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:*For guidance regarding sourcing, please read WP:RS and WP:SPS. Note that Dewans' book is a general guide to J&K & I am unsure of his qualifications etc, and that koausa.org is an advocacy group. 
Parvez Dewan is a IAS Officer (Indian Administrative Services Officer). Dewan was the Divisional commissioner of Kashmir, India @ the time of writing this book. His name and listing can be verified on the Goverment of India website http://persmin.nic.in/civillist/AsOnToday/AgeListCL.asp?Slab=8&Cadre=JK&AsOnDate=01/01/2010. Relavant ISBN & Publishing House information was provided. 
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He graduated from St Stephen's in New Delhi (one of India's premier colleges, based in New Delhi), & @ Cambridge was awarded the Jennings prize for highest marks in class (1987). He was also an editor in several notable Indian newspapers - 'Hindustan Times' & 'Times of India' both of which are amongst the most circulated papers in India. He also extensively wrote in magazines like India Today & Stardust.
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Am changing the kousa.com --> Valley of Kashmir by Walter R. Lawrence, Settlement Comissioner for Kashmir(London, Henry Frowde, Oxford University Press Warehouse, 1985), Pg 304 This should meet credibility requirements.
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For your comments "it reintroduced a list of supposed notable Kauls that was, at best, of dubious merit and veracity."</br>
This comment is highly objectionable - specially since the list includes the first prime minister of India, Jawahar Lal Nehru.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs) 09:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Scripts are not acceptable. I do not care what you think about that issue because there is WP:CONSENSUS regarding it and that consensus has emerged very recently.Changing "caste" or "subcaste" to "community" does not resolve anything,I still do not understand what it is that makes Dewan a reliable source but I'll try to do some digging because he seems to have had a remarkably varied career.Your change from kousa is welcome & I will probably reinstate it (sorry, I am playing catch-up here and may have removed some worthwhile contributions along with some that were less so).Nehru is one name among many in that list. - Sitush (talk) 16:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

text: You are supposed to discuss, not just keep reinserting stuff. This has been explained on your talk page here. Right now, you are heading towards a whole heap of trouble. I suggest that you slow down a little. - Sitush (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Reply to Sitush 

message: Lawrence (1895) was used to support a part of "Kauls or Kouls trace their lineage to Dattatreya, the legendary son/decendent of Maharishi Atri & Devi Anusuya, Atri bein&g one of the ten Prajapati's or Mind Sons of Brahma." The page was given as 304 but I cannot find this content there - see http://www.archive.org/stream/valleyofkashmir00lawruoft#page/304/mode/2up. The citation was incorrectly formatted and I wonder if this is a part of the problem? Oh, and it is "descendant", not "descendent" (a common error, and easily remedied if the content is reinstated!) Please also note that we try to avoid using such old sources as this. Is there nothing more modern? - Sitush (talk) 19:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You cannot do that. The citation is useless and your phrasing is not neutral. - Sitush (talk) 16:43, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lawrence

message: has proposed a draft replacement for the current article. This can be seen at User:Ambar wiki/sandbox - it was posted here but I reverted that post because slipping entire articles into talk space is not really a great idea. - Sitush (talk) 10:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, .. all are invited to view the Kaul article draft, & if you leave comments in my Sandbox talk page, I might just leave you a barnstar. >>Ambar (talk) 16:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New draft by Ambar wiki 

message: These are some links that indicate Kaul to be a Kashmiri Pandit surname. Check out Kauls and also the book Pg 04 to find some links to the Kashmiri Pandits names. -Ambar (talk) 16:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaul as a Kashmiri Pandit surname 

message: Apparently, Kaul is also a German surname with a different origin than the Indian surname. See :de:Kaul.
Notable people with (very probably) the German surname and existing Wikipedia articles include:
* Hans-Peter Kaul
* Inge Kaul
* Matthias Kaul (already listed in the article)
* Niklas Kaul
* Oliver Kaul
* Oskar Kaul
--136.8.33.74 (talk) 12:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  German surname 

message: You should not be edit warring on Kaul at all, as of now :User:Auntsamaru you have violated WP:3RR. Untamed1910 (talk) 13:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Warring [[:User:Auntsamaru]]