Talk:Terence Trent D'Arby

message: Any information on why D'Arby changed his name? —Frecklefoot 19:09, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: What's Yer Name?

message: The article used the subject's names a little inconsistently. The article should probably proceed in one of two ways: a) use his current name throughout, or b) use the name he used at the time of the incident under discussion. I changed a few things to bring the article largely in compliance with option a), which was how the large majority of the article had already been written, and which I think is probably best. DCB4W 02:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomenclature

message: When following the link to that channel, one gets the message "This account is suspended."--213.168.111.135 (talk) 09:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youtube-Channel 

message: "The collection of songs was then compiled into "WIlDCARD" a fantastic album that was released by the artist independently in 2002 and got international reviews and massive radio airplay" - Massive radio airplay? Did it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.34.187 (talk) 15:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reads like a gushing review! 

message: What a horrible page; this reads like pure promotion. I lived through the 80's, bought his record the first week like everyone else and played it to death. I also remember that much controversy surrounded him, and that he popularly is known to have completely fallen of the proverbial map. Practically speaking, no one has paid this guy any attention for 20 years, though you would have no idea by this sheer piece of puffery.Tao2911 (talk) 02:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Page is Sheer Puffery 

message: The naming consistency in this article is wrong. In the Muhammad Ali article, for instance, everything that that Ali achieved under the name Clay is attributed to Clay; there's no attempt at revisionism. This article is full of it. My copy of Introducing the hardline does not credit Sananda Francesco Maitreya anywhere and yet it is his debut album? Everything prior to the artist's renaming should be accredited to their legal or professional title at the time, not to something subsequent - particularly when it relates to someone whose latter identity is far less recognised than that which they held at the time. danno 01:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I thoroughly agree - got very confused as to when he had changed his name!93.96.148.42 (talk) 01:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on these comments, I have now rectified the glaring misrepresentation and confusion that follows by universally attributing everything to Maitreya. AS you rightly point out, everything done as D'Arby should be attributed under that name. If I missed a note here or there, feel free to correct it. werldwayd (talk) 10:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Here is a good source for the missing material in personal life - http://www.sanandamaitreya.com/interviews/Qmagazine.html93.96.148.42 (talk)
:That's not actually a good source as it is a primary source. QuiteUnusual (talk) 22:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Source for personal life 

message: I deleted the following: 
In 2006, during a visit to Twycross Zoo, Maitreya developed an irrational fear of monkeys which has left him with an obscure condition in which he will break wind uncontrollably for several minutes at the sight of anything resembling one.
Common sense says this is vandalism but I did a Yahoo binge to see if it had a shred of credibility and it did not. Wikipedia is the only source of this "obscure condition".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.9.236 (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Can we please revisit the decision regarding regarding the artist's name and how it is reflected on Wikipedia? It is my view that the main page should be named after Sananda Maitreya and refer to Terence Trent D'arby where appropriate, with a redirection for searching Terence Trent D'arby -> Sananda Maitreya.
There are some unique factors at play here which I'd like to call out.
Firstly as of 2024 the artist's entire back catalogue has been consistently renamed across all major streaming services to reflect his current name. Even album artwork has been edited to reflect the correct name. That's a pretty unprecedented step in the music industry as far as I'm aware, so that makes this situation somewhat unique. All of his media appearances etc for decades use the new name also, really since the mid and late 90s.
Secondly, it is apparent from recent press interviews (e.g. the Guardian) that Sananda associates his old name with a certain amount of personal trauma and mental anguish. It seems a little perverse that Wikipedia continues to primarily refer to the old name simply because that was his name at the height of his commercial success. We can't even say that for certain; since Sananda went independent decades ago we don't really know how much his more recent music has made compared to his early works. The entirely of his back catalogue is under the name Sananda Maitreya, and indeed the bulk of it (9 out of 13 studio albums) was only ever released under that name anyway. Anyone who HAS bought his new music or been to his concert in the past 25+ years knows him as Sananda Maitreya.
I assert again that Terence Trent D'arby should redirect to Sananda Maitreya rather than the other way around. Same goes for his discography page - the vast majority of the records listed on that page were recorded under the name Sananda Maitreya. His prior name has not been used professionally for decades, and in fact has now been erased from his back catalogue. This is reflected in all major media sources, streaming services, record stores etc.
The comparisons made previously here to Mohammed Ali, or Cat Stevens don't really fit. I would suggest a better comparison point might be someone who has changed name for deeply personal reasons (such as a gender transition) and for whom the continued use of their old name carries some anguish or personal trauma. If we can find a more sensitive way to present this kind of thing on Wikipedia (for example, see the pages for people such as Caitlyn Jenner, Elliot Page etc) then surely we can do that for Sananda also. No one who follows his music goes looking for Terence Trent D'arby in 2024.
I'd like to make this change, but I'd also like it to not be reverted. If anyone still feels very strongly about please speak up, let's try to reach a consensus on this asap.MzK11 (talk) 15:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reviving the naming debate 

message: :Terence Trent D'Arby →  – The artist changed his name to Sananda Maitreya in the mid-90s and has only used that name ever since. Since the previous time this move was considered, there have been some further developments; most notably the artist's entire back catalogue has been renamed and republished under his current name. His entire back catalogue is now only available under the name Sananda Maitreya, which I believe is an unprecedented move within the music industry. This is an unusual and unique situation which merits our reexamination. Comparisons to other artists who've made name changes (e.g. Cat Stevens) don't really apply here. Just to clarify, ALL music streaming services have had the early Terence Trent D'arby albums renamed as Sananda Maitreya albums, including modified album title and cover artwork too so arguably today Sananda Maitreya is the only and most common name for accessing his body of work. For example the first studio album is now only available under the name Introducing the Hardline According to Sananda Maitreya even on physical media. Additionally, the overwhelming majority of his career to date has been under the name Sananda Maitreya. Finally, it is clear from recent press interviews that the artist associates his early stage name with a certain amount of trauma, it seems anachronistic that Wikipedia would continue to display his early stage name as the primary page name. MzK11 (talk) 08:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 1 June 2024