Talk:Charles Barkley

message: Sir Charles is a Japanese national? Is this correct?
75.26.175.190 07:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Random

message: Things about Barkley that could be added:
AN IMPORTANT AND CRUCIAL THING IS MISSING: A LIST OF THE YEARS THAT HE PLAYED BASKETBALL AT AUBURN UNIVERSITY. HE ALSO LEAD THE SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE IN REBOUNDING ALL THREE OF THESE YEARS.
You don't think that this is important? For a Nobel Prize Winner, where he went to undergraduate school, and when, is an important fact, and lists have been compiled of which winners went to which universities and in which countries.
* one of the best rebounders ever, despite his lack of height (listed as 6-6, but about 1-2 inches less in reality)
* in the list of NBA's top 50 players
* known for his quotable quotes and unquotable quotes, many of them politically incorrect (such as the one on role models etc)
* he wrote a couple of books (can't remember the titles now).
--Colemanyee 03:31, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: the mug shot doesn't really look like him. is that really a reputable source?Xwoodandwater 06:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mug shot

message: There is rare footage on the flea market circuit that reportedly shows Barkley performing his patented technique, the forbidden Chaos Dunk.  If anyone has further info on where I can obtain such tapes please post here. 65.33.170.190 05:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaos Dunk 

message: What does "he harkened on those rumors in Space Jam" mean? Dumpendebat 02:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Harkened" on rumors? 

message: I know that he is listed as 6' 6" on nba.com but nba.com doesn't always tell the truth. There are many websites which say that Barkley is at 6' 5". Search it on google. So Please do not revert my edit. Thanks. MM 14:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The NBA has always listed players taller than they really are.  Nate Robinson is listed as 5'9, but is closer to 5'6-5'7. It does not matter, nba.com receives their information from a players listed playing height, while in the NBA.  You're assuming his height based on a picture, and uncreditable resources.  Yes, many sites list him from 6'4 to 6'6.  Barkley makes note of his controversial playing height in all his published books.  Players, and announcers alike have always joked about a players supposed playing height or weight.  The UserBox for all nba players on Wikipedia is designed to reflect their playing stats, and Barkley's playing stats, with regard to his height, has always been listed, in his 16 year career, 6'6'.  A note on his height has been made in the subsection titled, early life and college career. If you want to make an added note in the introductory paragraph, then I believe that would be best.  However, I do not think footnotes or skeptisms have priority over a players listed playing height/Billed Height, as noted by the NBA.  The UserBox was designed to reflect a players Billed/Playing profile. Zodiiak 20:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If other NBA players would be listed one inch over their real height then I don't know why they have listed Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley as 6' 6". Michael is definitely one inch taller than Charles and I think that Wikipedia doesn't need to get compared with other websites. Wikipedia is an own website, what shows important informations and I think that 6' 5" should be right for Charles Barkley. Yeah, he is really that tall. Well, also celebheights.com says that Charles is about 6' 5". I could add 6' 5" as Charles current height. MM 08:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is it's own website, however, it relies on Sourced information.  For NBA Players, besides published books and articles, it relies heavily on creditable sites; such as Nba.com.  I'm not going to get into a Big Edit War for something as simple as Height, but if this Article is to ever achieve a better Grade than B, the "Real/Billed" note will have to be changed.  I've been working on editing this article to bring it's grade up from B to FA status.  It'll take sometime, but I think it's worth the effort.  Anyone who wants to help, is greatly welcomed ;)  Zodiiak 21:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Morris Munroe, we are here for verifiability, not necessarily truth. And what is truth? Your version of the truth or someone else's? May I advise you read Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. It pretty much states that if you cannot back up your information, don't put it in - regardless of your convictions. --Downwards 21:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Please see the picture above. Charles is definitely one inch shorter that Michael. Is there a way to solve this problem? MM 11:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article makes note of his actual height, probably being in the vicinity of 6'4".  It's stated in his College career and Player Profile sections, and cited utilizing his old nba.com player bio.  I hope this is satisfactory enough ;) Zodiiak 19:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm listening Charles as 6' 5" again because once he was listed as 6' 4" and then as 6' 6". If you wanna hear my oppinion, Charles is exactly one inch shorter than Michael Jordan. And that's certainly not a vandalism. MM 18:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I propose we meet a mutual consensus on the issue. I've already clearly explained why he is listed as 6'6" and so has Downwards. I've also pointed out that we have made several comments regarding his actual height throughout the article. If you cannot provide something which has precedence over nba.com (verifiability), then please do not edit his height. It is not considered vandalism, but it is considered Unintentional misinformation.  From your talk page, it seems you have a history of making these type of edits, and I ask that you refrain from adding this misinformation, especially after we have so clearly explained our positions, according to the rules set forth by Wikipedia.  Zodiiak 20:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The correct listing would be 6'6, as to keep things simple we go by NBA listings. Also we would never go by a photo of one person atanding next to another, that's just silly and absurd. Quadzilla99 19:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've already told you, that Wikipedia doesn't need to get compared with other websites! You can see www.celebheights.com if you don't trust me! The old wwe.com listed Charles as 6' 4" and the new one as 6' 6". And 6' 5" is in the middle. Do not revert this edit one more time! MM112 10:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia's three-revert rule I have reported your name. You continue to revert and edit after discussion, and general consensus.  In addition, you continue to create new user names in order to to revert to the same edit.  You're annoying.  Zodiiak 18:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Just wondering, is the fact that Barkley himself wrote in one of his books that his height is closer to 6'4" not a verifiable source? I've just read this article for the first time and it seemed odd to have one section stating that his height as 6'6" with no further comment and then a section later in the article saying that his height is commonly wrongly stated as 6'6". I think there can be little dispute that he is NOT 6'6" tall, as this appears to be a matter of record (his own stated figure for his own height is surely more likely to be correct than NBA.com, especially when it is known that this source is consistently wrong on this type of information). Surely Wikipedia should choose its sources based on accuracy rather than popularity? I've not changed anything in the article tho, as this seems to be a sore spot with some people! If the value for Barkley's height in the sidebar is not changed then it should carry a note that this is not his real height, this is his NBA stat heght or it is disputed as his real height and should point readers to the text for further explanation - the Hulk Hogn article has his heght stat as "Billed Height: 6'7" " and mentions in the text that tho his height is reported as 6'7" his actual heght is 6'4" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_Hogan this seems like a good approach to take with this and all similar cases - 6'6" is his "billed" or "stated" heght by the NBA, tho by his own admision Barkley's actual height is slightly over 6'4" (he said its closer to 6'4" than 6'6", thus it will be closer to 6'4" than 6'5" so it is more correct to state it as 6'4" than 6'5".Dex 01:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Barkley's Height

message: Why is there no mention of his apperances on the Clerks cartoon series. He was in all but one of them and he voiced them as well.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.187.222 (talk) 
:Clerks cartoon? I've never heard of that. If it merits noteability, then obviously it should be included. Do you have a reference or something that'll help us better understand his part? Zodiiak 03:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're missing an underrated little series (netflix it): Clerks: The Animated Series. --Bobak 23:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll have to check it out sometime. The article is still being revamped, so maybe it can be worked in somewhere. Zodiiak 03:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clerks cartoon series 

message: Nike made a big push for this ad campaign way back when.  Is this notable?  If so, where?  As evidence, I proffer evidence from the repository of this sort of stuff, YouTube: Trailer (which aired as a commercial for the commercial, seriously) and Commercial. --Bobak 23:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a reliable source that discusses the value of the commercial, then yes it is noteable. Otherwise, it can be regarded as trivial, from an overall historical perspective. I'm still working on the article, and have virtually revamped it to eventually bring it up to Featured Article Status, so a few things have been removed because of a lack of source, lack of notability, or just not encyclopedic.  Zodiiak 03:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually made an article on the commercial a while ago: Godzilla vs. Charles Barkley Zagalejo^^^ 22:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Godzilla Vs. Barkley (1992) 

message: Why was the Yao Ming incident removed? Overall I think the section for TNT is now too small, he's tremendously well known for his role there and as time goes on he'll be known for that more and more to a generation of people than his basketball career. I mean how many know John Madden as being a coach? This guys is becoming like that.  Tayquan hollaMy work 01:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The section does need to be expanded. I don't think his comments on Yao are specifically noteable. I've been working on the article and looking at everything from an overall career retrospective. In that sense it seems too trivial to highlight his yao comments, since he's known for making silly and usual blunt remarks about NBA players. Maybe a few examples can be given to back up the claims, but I think that should be limited (see Legacy section) so that it doesn't divert attention from his overall stake in TNT. I mainly cleaned up the section because it just seemed to be very unencyclopedic, and read more like a blog/fan site. I'm still working on the article, and haven't been able to center on the section yet (I'm up to Legacy), but you're more than welcome to help out =) Zodiiak 03:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see the Yao incident as trivial at all. That section needs to be expanded, also some quotes and antidotes from him need to be added to illustrate his personality. I wouldn't recommend it in another article but with Barkley some quotes need to be worked into the text to illustrate his personbality. There's a difference between saying he's funny and showing it. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure became is past tense. For instance you wouldn't say "since starting his NBA career Kobe became a highly successful basketball player."  Tayquan hollaMy work 05:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously became is past tense. But did he just become an analyst, or did he become one after he retired. If he came an analyst after he retired, then it's past tense. Either way, it's just semantics. I already stated that a few examples can be given to illustrate his comments, and stated that it does need to be expanded (and will), and even asked for help. People have a tendancy to just throw a bunch of fancruft into the article, rendering it into some sort of online blog. It becomes completely trivial and reads like a fan site. I don't think an entire paragraph about just Yao Ming or one specific player alone is required for Barkley's' article, and once again will reiterate that a few examples can be given to illustrate his frankness. Zodiiak 05:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't bold things it's condescending and belongs in a forum or message board not here. Show me where I said a paragraph belongs here, 2 sentences would be fine.   Tayquan hollaMy work 12:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never knew Bold was condescending. I think saying things like "I'm pretty sure became is past tense" is more  condescending than it. Also, the Yao incident that was removed was relatively a paragraph. Zodiiak 14:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Yao Ming and TNT

message: Upon its review on October 12, 2007, this good article nomination was quick-failed because it:
::has been the subject of recent ongoing edit wars or is the subject of a future event
thus making it ineligible for good article consideration.
This article did not receive a thorough review, and may not meet other parts of the good article criteria.  I'm not sure that the weight thing is pure vandalism, but it looks like it's been going on for a while. I suggested re-nominating it one week after the edit warring stops, at which point I can give it a more full and proper review. I encourage you to remedy this problem (and any others) and resubmit it for consideration.  If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a Good article reassessment.  Thank you for your work so far.— Cheers, CP 04:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Over one month of waiting for it to be reviewed and it fails because of a few days of some anon-ip editing Barkley's weight. That's extremely frustrating.  I'll be sure to resubmit once things have died down a bit -- thanks Zodiiak 23:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is, without question, the worst GA review I've ever seen and heard of. Chensiyuan 00:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And by the GA Reviewer of the month no less! Cheers, CP 15:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

text: WABD!! Chensiyuan 16:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Wow. Zodiiak 21:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed "good article" nomination

message: :GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:Fair representation without bias: 
#It is stable.
#:No edit wars etc.: 
#It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
#:a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
#Overall:
#:Pass/Fail: 
Just to end the complaining, not only did I review this article, but I gave you a full copy edit as well. Here's my review:
#Stuart smalley.JPG does not have an acceptable fair use rationale. It should be removed, unless there is a very good reason for its inclusion.
##I think given its grainy quality the quality of the article would not be diminished with its removal, but I'm not mooting for removal either, I'd leave it to Zodiiak. Chensiyuan 13:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Thank you both Chensiyuan and CP for your input, edits, and review.  I'll comb through your points and do my best to revise the areas you feel need work when I have some spare time.  Thanks again for taking the time to review. Zodiiak 06:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated progress above.  Please feel free to review.  Will do more tomorrow, thanks! Zodiiak 10:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have commented where needed and updated the buttons. Looks likes it's going very well! Cheers, CP 17:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Thanks very much for your time.  I'll finish going through it tonight and will hopefully have it completed.  Thanks again! Zodiiak 18:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How's the progress? I have no problem extending the hold, since work has been done addressing these concerns. Cheers, CP 21:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for not being able to complete it sooner than later.  Work has kept me busy lately.  I'll try and finish up tonight, thanks again! Zodiiak 01:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will extend the hold for four days past the original end date then, which is three days from now. Cheers, CP 13:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much for your understanding and time.  I think I've addressed everything.  However, i'll give it another scan later on today to ensure it's the best results possible.  Thanks again! Zodiiak (talk) 06:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Looking it over now. Cheers, CP 00:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference #45 and #53 do not lead to where they are supposed to. References #14 and #53 do not have an access date. These will need to be fixed. Cheers, CP 00:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. =)  Zodiiak (talk) 03:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I will now be passing this as a GA. Congratulations and thank you for your hard work! Cheers, CP 22:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: YAY! Thanks very much for everything CP! Zodiiak (talk) 03:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 2 

message: There needs to be a mention of Sir Charles' SEGA Genesis Video Game and the fan made RPG which features him as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porovaara (talk • contribs) 18:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir Charles in Video Games. 

message: This is a guy who says "he hates white people", he says "we don't need refs in the NBA, but I guess white people need something to do". He's also said that NASCAR commercials are "lies" and that the women that go to them all have bad hair and bad teeth? I'll be adding my own section on it when I get bored.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.29.150 (talk) 22:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  where is all his racist past?

message: Charles has been in the news a lot lately because of his involvement in the new hit Golf Channel show, The Haney Project. A major part of Barkley's career after basketball is his golf game, or lack thereof. I think there should be a section on his golf game in this article.DoubleEagle7 (talk) 17:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As per preceding post. Chensiyuan (talk) 23:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Here's a source. But the section wasn't really written with the proper tone, so I think we need to start over. See Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles#Information_style_and_tone for some advice. Zagalejo^^^ 05:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI I added it to the article. Zodiiak (talk) 19:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Haney Project 

message: As pointed out in the FAC, bsc is a dead link, but while searching for a replacement I found this.  There appears to be a contradiction, with this source saying that he was in three All-SEC selections instead of two, and that he was a second-team All-American selection instead of third-team.  sportsstats.com looks quite unprofessional and cstv.com redirects to CBS Sports, so I'm going to assume that the latter source is more reliable. —LOL T/C 01:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree—Chris! ct 03:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  College awards contradiction 

message: There's no mention of his appearance in WB's 1996 Space Jam movie. 71.201.99.214 (talk) 14:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space Jam 

message: I think it's time for an update to his height. The sources from this wiki page stated slightly under 6 feet 5 inches (1.95 mt).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/1999/12/09/barkley_boston_ap/
http://www.nba.com/sixers/history/retired_index.html
Barkely himself states his height also slightly under 6'5" at the 1:03 mark in this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDz2yGoK_xk
And in this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/sports/basketball/22score.html?_r=0
Aloncho11 (talk) 16:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: His "listed height" has consistently been 6'6"; see . Maybe we could put a footnote into the infobox, but 6'6" is his correct "listed height". Zagalejo^^^ 20:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height Update 

message: I tagged the material about being know for being a compulsive gambler. He certainly seems to fit the mold of a problem gambler, but he denys it, like a lot of problem gamblers do, not saying that he is one. Maybe this should be reworded, ie, he is known for his widely publicized gambling and assocoiated losses, ect, unless we have a source that says he is a compulsive gambler. This is no different that an alcoholic or drug abuser, ect. --Malerooster (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. Reading the sources, he admits that he has a problem, but then classically says it isn't a problem since he can afford to lose. Its too bad that he doesn't understand that compulsive gambling in NOT about money, or winning vs losing, but about compulsive behavior similar to drinking or drugs. --Malerooster (talk) 23:22, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compulsive gambler 

message: The section on his play at Auburn lists two very different career FG percentages. At most one of them can be correct! - GeneCallahan (talk) 09:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shooting percentage at Auburn 

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message: Given both his nickname (Round Mound of Rebound) and the fact that he was known for being an incredible and dominant rebounder, how is his career rebound total (not just RPG) not in his stat box? I would add it, but I'm terrible with stat boxes (I always screw them up). It seems like an odd thing NOT to have in there. Vyselink (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rebounds in stats? 

message: Would it be ok to include the fact that he was associated with a meme on SiIvaGunner? Justanot (talk) 14:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add anything to the legacy? 

message: Hey Charles I just want to comment on yesterday’s  game with Lakers o been of Lakers fan for 40 year and in love with Kobe Bryant and dislike labron James but still a die heart Lakers fan I just wish what happened on the game yesterday that they send i Isaac to mental anger management class because what he got to realize that we are showing this day to a lot of children and I think that the second part was unnecessary and that the NBA commissioner should show more respect of the game by showing the children that there  are consequences  the first part is just a reaction of anybody human but the second part it was ridiculous I hope that you can share my thoughts l on TNT and have the king  no he not as good to hit nobody like that and be place  on the 75 year game list he should be fine and money and volunteer time to sit in a abuse classroom and I commit to hear my statement because I feel that Isaac put into a mental anger program before being put back on court 104.244.26.177 (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lakers fan last game opinion 

message: I honestly think this should stay 100%. I found this on Steve Nash's article infobox and upon research found out that this is similar to Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor and it is just as important if not more as jersey retirement for former suns players, there is an induction ceremony and everything just like jersey retirement and besides player infoboxes always contain NBA awards that are not mentioned in WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS anyway, J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award is a common one that comes to mind. TheFightGame (talk) 15:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ring of Honor 

message: The section,"an American former professional basketball player" should be changed to "a retired American professional basketball player". 173.79.240.107 (talk) 19:44, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It'd be confusing to say "retired" in the narrow perspective of his playing career when the same sentence says he's still working: "...who is a television analyst..." "former" is fairly standard WP format, and most former athlete are likely working in some capacity. —Bagumba (talk) 00:41, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very first sentence is awkward 

message: Currently, his tv analyst career is a subsection of the Personal Life section.  I think that he has gained enough notability as an analyst (he even has a weekly show on CNN, a non sports channel) to have this classified as a separate section. What are your thoughts? Ruttgc49 05:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creating a separate section for his TV analyst career 

message: For the intro, in the last paragraph, where it mentions “his last 13 seasons”, please change this to “13 seasons until his retirement in 2000” as this encompasses the majority of his basketball career. 2600:100C:A115:208A:24B4:D9F2:13A4:9914 (talk) 05:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: His retirement year is clarified three sentences before that. Larry Hockett (Talk) 06:45, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protected edit request 

message: So apparently he's the host of a prime time TV show on CNN, but this article doesn't even have a section where that would fit. Olympics? NBA Records?--2003:EA:E714:4EE5:899:FD1C:F892:8011 (talk) 15:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Section?