Talk:The Black Parade/Archive 1

message: The ONLY TWO confirmed songs for this album are "Disenchanted (Shut Up and Play)" and "Father". These two are confirmed by the band themselves - "Disenchanted" was played on their recent headlining tour, and "Father" was played at the 2006 SxSW music festival. 
6/29: "Dead!", "This Is How I Disappear", and "Kill All Your Friends" have been confirmed as well, from an interview with Gerard at a T-Mobile Sidekick Party. Still no source for "Boy Division", so it shouldn't be included in the list.
Hold on a second. I know where the We Are the Black Parade came from, but where did "Seven Years' Bad Luck" come from? CD Amadeus 03:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracklisting - sources! 

message: Would a scan count as a citation for Gerard saying the title "The Rise and Fall of My Chemical Romance" was NOT the official title?
Well it definatly needs something. I can't find it anywhere, and I've been looking. Orfen 00:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Citation for the Title

message: MCR is featured in the newest picture on the black parade.com website. There is still NO CONFIRMATION whatsoever if this will be the name of the single, or their new album, but it is pretty much confirmed now that The Black Parade has SOMETHING to do with MCR, we just don't know what yet. Someone keeps removing the "Unconfirmed" label from the Black Parade in the tracklisting. MJB12 05:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Parade 

message: THE BLACK PARADE will be the title of the new album. From Warner Reprise, a new video has been released featuring a heart monitor animation says THE BLACK PARADE, coming October 24th, and an email from the MCRmy (MCR sanctioned street team) officially says "The Black Parade" is coming October 24th. I guess that means the album is officially The Black Parade. I'll let someone else do the honors of changing the name. EDIT: Check out the official site, the video is posted there too. MJB12 03:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 15:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know... I watched that yesterday too and I got all the emails but it still can be something else. I still don't think it's official yet though. I think that it shouldn't have had a change because no one has confirmed it. Maybe they are still just trying to make us think it is but it really isn't the real title. "The Black Parade" still has not been confirmed. The movie says it is coming October 24, and the new album comes October 24 but what if this is something completely different? I don't know but I think people are jumping to conclusions too fast. Orfen 15:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: They said the first single was "Welcome to the Black Parade". I listened to that too. Orfen 00:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So I guess it's official... 

message: MCR is definitely paying homage to David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust era. "The Black Parade" is the band's alternate persona for this album. That David Bowie album was called "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars", and recently we learned that "The Rise and Fall of My Chemical Romance" was "a code, a joke"...get it? MJB12 03:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Bowie 

message: heres a link to a video clip of them answering lots of questions about the new album and their new look  []Dizzydark 16:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link 

message: on the page, it says its an emo album. first of all, no one knows what it sounds like, so you cant put up a genre. secondly, mcr is and has never been emo. Dizzydark 16:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been reverting any genres for the album. Until it's oficially released I don't think anything should be decided. Orfen 16:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the several songs released and the samples. I think that it as pretty clear that this is a Rock album. 06:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was assumed before anything was released that this would be a rock album. I think we shouldn't add it still until it is officially released. It is only a few more days afterall.  Orfen User Talk 20:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: genre

message: Welcome to the Black Parade" WAS played at the 2006 VMA Pre-show. That was not "Father". What "Welcome to the Black Parade" was originally thought to be was "Father". Orfen 20:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006 VMA Performance

message: Who is putting this information on here? The only thing that should even appear is "Welcome to the Black Parade", which is 5:11 (this is from TheBlackParade.com), but where are these other track times coming from? The live versions DON'T COUNT! And "Boy Division" and "Seven Years Bad Luck" have not been confirmed anywhere! Official facts only please. MJB12 02:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On Myspace "Welcome to the Black Parade" is 5:11. Orfen 15:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, on theblackparade.com it counts down from 5:11 also. The radio edit version is around 4 and a half minutes, maybe that's what you were looking at. MJB12 16:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Times 

message: I'm not sure which to believe. Should we list the MTV listing as we have on there now? Or the one by an interview from the band itself? In that interview the song titles are Momma and I Don't Love You. This is the Kerrang article: http://web.mit.edu/~ashdavis/Public/scan0002-1.jpg  Orfen User Talk 21:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't believe that one either because they say on another page that Gerard and Bob were injured in a car crash when they were actually injured filming the video. I'd just keep what we got until official stuff gets out from the  band since the Kerrang article is kind of the last thing we heard of from the band.  Orfen User Talk 23:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I seriously just wouldn't change it until it comes out. It is only 2 weeks afterall.  Orfen User Talk 23:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updated Track Listing

message: is it me, or does the titel & cover art seem baised off the book The Black March?
What me worry? - Xachna 03:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Title 

message: Anyone know if it's actually leaked or not? I assumed it would be because MCR did a surprise event in Virgin Megastores in London where their album was on presale. We ideally need a source, just to verify the claim. I'd personally be happy just seeing the link and not putting it up for f**king pirates. Anyone agree?<BR> ViperBlade </font>Talk!! 09:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 14:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The album has not been leaked. What was said on here before is that they played so many of the songs live that the album could practically be put together. It's not technically leaked then, because as far as I'm aware they still haven't played them all live. What they did for these listening events and stuff is they give the stores the album that will only play on certain devices for like one or two times. So as far as I'm aware it isn't leaked because the only things recorded are their live versions and I don't think you can call that leaked.  Orfen User Talk 15:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure how that says it is leaked. It's surprising that it's not leaked however. This is a pretty largely atticipated album and if it's not leaked yet it's just a little surprising. However what I got from that album is that it's a signing for Welcome to the Black Parade and then the presale is available Oct 23 in the UK. On eBay and everything the album and stuff on there are just sort of like preorders I think because as far as I'm aware it's not leaked and if it's not now the odds of it happening are pretty slim since there is a little more than a week left. I can see it possibly being leaked on the 23 when the UK gets it but not any sooner.  Orfen User Talk 00:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Aussies get it two days before the Brits, so I'd expect the album to be on filesharing networks by saturday at the latest, but as early as wednesday. 141.209.236.224 21:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually now I wouldn't be too surprised now because I believe some radio station is playing a new song each day in the UK. "Mama" or "Momma" was played today I believe. So it'll be fully leaked soon if it's a new song each day.  Orfen User Talk 23:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hadn't heard about the ausies getting it before the brits. I knew the UK was 23rd and US 24th but not anything else :S Radio 1 has been playing some tracks from the album all over the place. Theres still a few that aren't around yet but I think this album may go all the way till release day, it shounds like it locked up very very very tight on pre-release copies, as in you put it in the pc, it ejects :S Lets hope that not the same with the actual for sale one. --Lotrgamemast 19:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think Austrailia would get the album two days early. AFAIK, all new music releases are released on Monday internationally (If you go by US time). In the US, new releases are released on the following day, Tuesday. Ender1490 01:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leak 

message: What are peoples views on the current format of the Concept section? At the minute its is just one long interview quote with Gerard. Any views on if this shoud be changed?--Lotrgamemast 19:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am waiting for the album to be released to change it. I want to do something similar to the Concept section of I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love. It has like the song names after each part that happens in the story. We don't know the full story right now, just what Gerard told us. So until we can listen and analyze what is happening in the story I think we should just leave it how it is and fix it when the album is released.  Orfen User Talk 20:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concept section 

message: I've made a re-organised version of this article in my user space. I've tried to split the release information section into a few other sections to make the article more readable. I've also added a little more information in about the rumours regarding the album name and removed some useless information about Queen which doesn't need to be in the article. Feel free to make some changes to it if you find anything that is wrong. If we can agree then I think this copy should be used as it is better organised.--Lotrgamemast 20:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did what I could right now for it. I'd say it's good to go since you can always edit it or revert it back. So I'd say use it, but you did a majority of the work so do whatever you want with it. Very good job though.  Orfen User Talk 21:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: After Monday & Tuesday of next week when the album is finally out, the album should definitely be condensed. A lot of the information isn't too relavent. I think having pages for the individual songs other than WTTBP at this point is pretty irrelevant too, but whatever. MJB12 21:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is what I thought too, but it kept being reverted so I figured I might as well fix that up. I had to propose deletion on the Famous Last Words page because it said it was an album and an upcoming single. A lot of the stuff right now isn't relevent enough to be pages. I just think people like to say "I made this article!".  Orfen User Talk 21:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganised article 

message: Does anyone know who did the piano on the album?
:I would guess My Chemical Romance. SOADLuver 21:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well in concerts I've been watching on the internet Bob seems to be doing most of it, but I am unsure of who does it on the album.They may have brought in a professional for the recordings. SOADLuver 21:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Rob Cavallo. The producer. He played keyboard for American Idiot and Gerard talked about it in a interview I think... I'm pretty sure it's Rob Cavallo the producer.  Orfen User Talk 21:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, Rob Cavallo does the piano on the album but other people does it live. He did it bacause no one in the band could play piano.--Lotrgamemast 21:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd say wait until the album is released because I am not for sure and it'll say in the album credits so then we'll know for sure. I am pretty certain and Lotrgamemast seems pretty certain... But I'd just wait until then.  Orfen User Talk 21:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I have the album right in front of me right now, it says that Jamie Muhoberac played the piano on "Blood". Cheech Iero is listed as addicional percussion on "Welcome to the Black Parade".  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Piano

message: Is that accurate? I live in Puerto Rico and it was released this Tuesday the 17th. --Luisdile02 22:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was defiantly said to be a 23rd International release and 24th for the US. Donno why you got it early.--Lotrgamemast 16:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some stores maybe just decided to sell it early. The 23rd and 24th is accurate so I don't think it should be changed or another date be added. Because then we'd basically have to add the dates where everyone got it. Like if someone got it from the store because they work there or if someone reviews the album and got it. I think since that is what it says on the website then we should just keep it.  Orfen User Talk 18:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release on the 23rd internationally? 

message: I am not sure what would be defined as a rock opera, but as this is a very theatrical concept album could you consider this album a rock opera? It seems to be similar to Green Day's American Idiot in a way as it seems huge. There are characters and a plot. I'm not arguing about anything, I'm just asking if The Black Parade could be considered a rock opera as I am not quite sure what the requirements would be.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 18:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it could be. Dwnsjane2 18:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: There isn't a firm plotline throughout, unlike a rock opera like Tommy. Therefore, it's a concept album. --Jamdav86 17:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rock Opera?

message: Who found out about this, and where is your proof?--Lynx Austin 08:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only proof at the moment is at http://www.billboard.com and from a Kerrang radio statement. Other than that the band themselves has not currently said.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link in question that I was refering to is http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/discography/index.jsp?pid=489806&aid=812296  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As further confirmation, they played "Famous Last Words" On "C4 Presents...", along with "Dead!".Shamess 15:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Last Words as a single? 

message: Got my limited edition which contains track-by-track commentary. There's commentary for the song "Kill All Your Friends", which is listed as a B-side.Maroonraven 15:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. I think i'm gonna buy a limited edition off of eBay. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 11:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teenagers Wasn't Kill All Your Friends 

message: It doesn't even sound like they ever gave the album a single chance judging from their super short review. It seemed like they just gave it a one star simply because the reviewer only likes metal music. If she hates this type of music, why did she review the album? It seems like she gave it a one star just because of the band. And the Black Parade was getting all good reviews until this one too.=( WIKI-GUY-1611:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope that review sucks so bad. I had a helf a mind to delete it fromt he list of of "profesional" reviews but i guess its from a source that just as valid as all the others.--Lotrgamemast 19:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

text: You can't delete a poor review because you like the band, because if it was a 4 or 5 star you would let it stay. It is just as valid of a source as the other reviews. Dwnsjane2 18:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Observor sucks 

message: I would like to point out that the lyrics to "The End" have never changed. It was performed first at SxSW under the title "Father" and not again until August 22nd at Hammersmith. With the exception of the "yeahs, come ons" in the "chorus", the lyrics have always been the same. The "another contusion, my funeral track, here's my resignation, a servulant lack" is just a really bad misunderstanding of the lyrics. I removed that line from the article. MJB12 06:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you know what. I really dislike the whole section. The only note would be "Disenchanted". I'm pretty sure that "The Sharpest Lives" was never "A Kiss Before She Goes" - that was just a mistake in a press release from Warner. And the bit on "Disenchanted" could easily be put into an individual song page. I don't think this section belongs on the page. MJB12 06:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song Alteration Section 

message: Just curious, but does anyone know if I could find the limited edition CD at stores, such as walmart or best buy? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 17:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea! I got it! Whoo hoo. Now I just need to find the money I was supposed to have to pay back my mom. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 00:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Limited Edition

message: I think we need to define what we should use as "Professional" reviews. I think there is too much in there right now and it's not like I hate bad reviews but the one bad review in there right now goes to a site that no longer exists. I mean, I could write my own review, so does that make it professional? I just think we need to define what a professional review is so we can maybe shrink down the list and list some of the other ones in the Reception secion.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 00:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Observer wasn't listed when I posted my comment. Aversion now works for me. But it wasn't earlier. I apologize for not listing which one it was. I'm not trying to be biased, I'm just saying that we need to define what a professional review is and put the rest in reception. I'm just trying to not make it look messy. I don't care about the bad reviews, I'll gladly have them listed elsewhere but I feel some of the reviews might not be professional and should be left out of the infobox.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 01:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Professional Reviews

message: As of today I havent seen any copies of TBP anywhere. The local stores said it will be out this Saturday. Has anybody from Australia purchased a copy, or is it just my crappy stores (because Australia should have been released on the 23rd right?) wasting my time?
If it's been delayed or anything it should probably be noted.Kokiri kid 09:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. --Jamdav86 19:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian Release