Talk:European driving licence

message: May I just ask just what makes the EU driving license a UK road topic? This article belongs somewhere in the general EU sphere, as UK is just one of the countries already using or planning to introduce the not so new EU license - mine has been issued as replacement for a stolen old fashioned "booklet" type in June 2006 Sic? (talk) 13:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  General 

message: The License Class BE does not require their owners to be at least 17 years old, but 18. Licenses made with 17 years are called "Begleitetes Fahren" as sait above, and do only include the Class B, not Class BE. Class BE has to be done afterwards, and the updated license is valid from the 18. birthday on.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.254.55.199 (talk) 14:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, even class BE can be done at an age of 17. Like a B-licence driver, a "Begleiter" has to be with the driver. No further limitations. If someone passes BE, he automatically has B, because BE is an upgrade of B. --91.51.185.235 (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class BE - Handling in Germany 

message: :In Norway it is not unusual to end up paying in excess of 4,000USD for a driving licence.
You have to pay for licences in US dollars in Norway?! Marnanel (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norway and USD 

message: I don't know to which other EU countries it applies, but driving age in Austria is 17, not 18 (drivers under 18 are required to display an L17 shield and have additional restrictions, such as 0.00 alcohol level while driving). All holders of a regular "B" (car) category driving license that have been in possession of this license for 2 years,  can get an "A" (motorcycle) license (restricted to 125 cc, 11 HP) without passing any additional official tests - they only have to demonstrate their ability to drive such a motorcycle to a recognised driving instructor. Additional room is left on the back of the EU license for a remark within the "A" category. Austrian authorities have assured all drivers in possession of a driving license valid for holder's lifetime that EU - wide move to periodical renewing will not apply to them - for good or for bad. (I personally prefer the Croatian system, where licenses have to be periodically renewed once the driver reaches the age of 65 and extensions are subject to a medical check-up, but this is quite a bit off topic) Sic? (talk) 13:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Austria 

message: Italian police (unilaterally) has yet unchallenged right to fine drivers from any country by temporarily taking away their license. Failure to voluntarily report to the local police and surrender the driving license can result in impoundment of the car causing the offence (which is most commonly speeding on motorways, caught on police cameras), disregarding nationality, license plates country of origin or even who was actually driving the car. This can, quite naturally, happen only if the same car is spotted again by license plate scanning cameras within Italy. Sic? (talk) 13:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italy 

message: Someone apparently mixed up the new credit card style licences with a common European appearance that are now being issued by most Member States with a truly European driving licence, i.e. a licence issued under the authority of the EU instead of the Member State, and with a common European driving licence database, which is only to be issued from 2013. I remember this article stating that something like a year ago, something apparently went wrong in the time in between. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some research: the current common European licences are issued on the ground of Council Directive 91/439/EEC of 29 July 1991 on driving licences, in effect since 1 July 1996. The new Directive 2006/126/EEC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 20 December 2006 on driving licences (Recast) will replace Directive 91/439/EEC on 19 January 2013. There even seems to be a pre-1996 Directive as Directive 80/1263/EEC was repealed on 1 July 1996 by virtue of Directive 91/439/EEC. I will edit the article accordingly when I have time... Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 20:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy dispute 

message: Any word on what non EU countries will be able to exchange for this EU licence?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.120.169 (talk) 08:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  foreign exchange 

message: I have a new British Driving license, according with the EU specification, that I present as proof of identity for credit card transatcions throughout Europe. I have now hit a problem. The supermarket Al Campo has a new policy and no longer accepts this, insisting on a passport, but only for British, not French or German customers. Does this break EU law?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.208.112.40 (talk) 12:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A European driving licence has never been a proof of identity, it currently only functions as a driving licence. Only a passport or a European identity card are proof of identity. But I still think a supermarket can set its own rules, it doesn't matter in that respect whether the authorities accept something as a proof of identity. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 13:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BRITISH DRIVING LICENSE NOT ACCEPTED AS PROOF OF IDENTITY IN EU  

message: Can someone add or link to information on what classes L and S mean? Iðm confused. Pollodiablowiki (talk) 01:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: L is in Germany the Licence for Tactors or Harvesters. Here in austria the same Class is "F". S is a new class for slow 4 weel vehicles like Microcars of Quads with <45 km/h in Germany. Both are Classes of the german System, not EU Classes. --Schuttwegraeumer (talk) 14:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

text: See here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerschein_und_Fahrerlaubnis#Zus.C3.A4tzliche_deutsche_Fahrerlaubnisklassen  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schuttwegraeumer (talk • contribs) 14:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  L & S 

message: I dont know a country but Germany with a speed Limit of 80 km/h for A1 Motorcycles if the rider is younger than 18. Its a german limit and not a limit of the european driving licence classes. The shown Fahrerlaubnissklassen.png is from Germany.  --Schuttwegraeumer (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This limit was removed after the EU reform got valid on 19 January 2013. --91.51.182.44 (talk) 12:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A1 Limits 

message: How come the section named Categories valid in all EU countries includes categories which are not defined in the directive and which are only valid in a few countries?  Furthermore, the table says that both B and BF17 include M, L and S, but L and S are not listed in the table.  There is a note claiming that B "does not include S in Norway", but B does include S (snowmobile) in Norway.  Finally, the table says that CE includes T, but T is not defined.  In Norway, T is included in BE (up to 25,000 kg), C (no trailer) and CE (no restrictions).  DES (talk) 16:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The meaning of "all" 

message: I have the impression that much information in the article (for example with respect to category B) is outdated. The new directive allows drivers with a B licence to tow heavier trailers, as long as the combination of car and trailer does not exceed a total maximum authorised mass of 3500kg. Can somebody please double check? http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-13-10_en.htm Cristiklein (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: According to the section Participating member states, under History, Switzerland is not a participating member in the EEA, and thus does not participate in the conventions on the European driving licence. The picture next to this piece of text suggests otherwise though, having coloured in Switzerland green (indicating it IS member of EFTA), and saying "The 31 participating member states, including 28 EU (blue) and 3 EFTA (green)." Maybe an accurate picture would be in place here? AwesomeSauceLtd (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Participating members 

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