Talk:Unitarian Universalism/Archive 1

message: What is the fleeting reference to the "humiliati" movement in the symbology section? Clearly not linked to the mideival pietist movement and unlinked to any further information.
:The Humiliati were a group of Universalist ministers in mid-20th century that wanted a renewal of Universalism and more openness to non-Christian religions. They have no connection to older religious movements with the same or similar name. --Jdemarcos 16:30, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
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message: It is surely a huge fallacy to call, for example, John Adams a "Unitarian-Universalist," which the article's list does.  He's on the list presumably because he was a Unitarian; but I very much doubt that he would wish to be counted among the Unitarian Universalists, and if they considered his actual religious and political beliefs, I am sure today's Unitarian Universalists would not want to call him one of his own (except for the prestige of having a president among one's adherents!).
It seems to me we need a list of Unitarian-Univeralists, followed by a link to an article about Unitarianism, with John Adams on the latter list, but not the former. --LMS
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Schweitzer's students were all Lutherans.  His work certainly caused a schism among the
Lutheran church.  Are you -sure- he was UU? Ray Van De Walker
:I pulled the initial list from www.famousuus.com/humanita.htm. I just did a search on google and found lots of other references. --Dmerrill
::Schweitzer was a Unitarian and a Liberal Protestant, not a UU. You cannot speak about UUs before 1961, when the Unitarian-Universalist merger took place, and only in North America. --Jdemarcos 18:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noted UUs? 

message: I'm not sure if I remember this correctly but wasnt there some history behind the chalice as a UU symbol? I'll try to look it up, maybe itd be something interesting to say on the UU page.
Graxe 17:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History of the Chalice

message: I've got a question. I've read that a large number of Unitarian Universalists are Christians. Does that mean that members of other religions can be UUs too? For example, I'm a muslim, so can I be a Unitarian Universalist too?
Thanks
:In short: Yes. UUism is about finding and living your spiritual path (which it seems like you've done) in a pluralistic community. While each congregation may have one or more particularly noticable spiritual flavors, not only will people not mind that you are muslim, they'll hope that you might share your understandings of the world with them, and they'll expect that you are open to accepting their understandings in a similar light. (No expectation of converting in either direction, just a free sharing of understandings.) - UtherSRG 15:56, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Religions and UU 

message: Even with direct permission to copy the principles and purposes section, I think it's better to briefly summarize them or, at worst, to move them to another article, say Principles and Purposes of Unitarian Universalism.  This cut and paste job on the article right now isn't encyclopedic, and looks ugly and out of place.  I'd rework it, but I'm not a UU so I'm afraid I'd remove something important.  Can someone else give it a go?  --Ardonik 21:14, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)
:It is my feeling that the principles are as concise as possible without losing anything important. I'd say to keep the text verbatim, altho formatting is another issue. Tydaj 20:25, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Principles and Purposes - Cut and paste

message: The Unitarian Universalist congregation I am a part of and the congregations/fellowships of many others distance themselves from the word tolerance, and see it as being a negative word.  My congregation usually employs words such as celebration or acceptance.  A sentence such as "I can tolerate them" suggests work, or unease involved in what they are doing, but comprimising one's thoughts, opinions, morals etc. to let someone else be peacefully.  Words such as celebration, or acceptance, suggest that you understand and are comfortable with what the other person is doing.  However this is the discussion page and I would like to read the opinions of everyone else here, and their experience with UUism. --machinebuster
:I agree.  The Minister at the Ottawa Congregation suggests using the term "appreciative understanding", which denotes an active interest in appreciating other POVs, thus recognizing some value in them, even when in disagreement.  "Tolerance" does tend to have a connotation of simply "putting up" with different POVs, and giving only a minor effort in doing so.  Rod ESQ 19:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
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