Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles requested for more than a year/Archive 3

message: The very essence of mutual irrelevance. I will pitch this soon. --Mashford 15:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Sexology]] and [[wrestling]]

message: I did a Google Search, and all I came up with are ring gear and pinions, and starter ring gears. They're all the same, according to starter ring gear, so I'm going to add a redirect under "Ring Gear" to "starter ring gear." If this is incorrect, please don't hesitate to correct it. Just letting you all know before I go and be bold. :-) --Sirwilliam 03:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you ever get the funny feeling that some of these of this Sliver Topics are put up as a joke?   Are all these ring gears due a topic page?  Sounds like a piston engine part?  Maybe should be folded over into Piston Engine? -I am Kiwi 22:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ring Gear

message: David Philipson..  1  2 Deathdust 14:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this guy worth it? 

message: This seems to be a very short legal definition - should this go in the Wiktionary instead? Amanita
:Last year somebody dumped several hundred legal terms onto the requests list. It would be useful if somebody could go through List of legal topics, and Wikipedia:Requested articles/list of missing legal terms and delink all of those that will result in nothing more than dict. defs. - SimonP 14:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After a quick check of the law dictionary at law.com, I've removed the following that in my estimation will never be more than dictionary definitions: Nulla bona, Practicable, Reasonable speed, Running with the land, Warrant of committal, Warrant of delivery, Warrant of possession, Shortening time, Personal effects, Hidden asset. I'll post a message over at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Law and see if we can get an expert opinion on the remainder. Bookgrrl 23:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm new, not sure what I'm doing yet, but I created Secured transaction, security agreement, and real party in interest. I created a link from UCC to secured transaction. All three could have significantly more than a definition, but for now they're just stubs.--Zilonis 06:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drop Dead Date 

message: Their website says they are "a focused international value added distribution and outsourcing Group" .  I have no idea what that means and can't find any reason they're important (other than that it's old, having started in Bratislava in 1854).  Not sure we really need an article on this? Bookgrrl 01:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bunzl plc 

message: *From Xanga: "ProjectQED's site has been shut down for violation of Xanga's eligibility requirements..."
*From ProjectQED.org: "Server not found"
Deleted from the list as it apparently doesn't exist any more Bookgrrl 02:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ProjectQED 

message: I made a stub for it, you aren't going to get much more because its really a subcommittee at that and it hasn't accomplished anything of note. If anyone has anything to add then go wild though. --Thenormalyears 04:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aids Research Advisory Committee 

message: Highlight headroom is a particular term relating to the ratio of the luminance at which an image medium produces a "normal" white versus its maximum possible luminance.  It dictates how much highlighting an image can have without being "blown out" and losing all detail.  As such, it is an aspect of the nature of the film, sensor, or paper in question.
This seems like a highly specialized, but very minor, topic, and I would suggest that it be redirected to Sensitometry. -- Kaosfere 00:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highlight headroom 

message: There appear to be some names of businesses in this list. Geosystems, Hypergain etc. Should these generally be removed? Ordinary Person 14:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are notability guidelines for companies somewhere, but I don't remember the name of the page. Maurreen 03:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CORP --Thanatosil 12:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial Names 

message: Is it possible to do a search to find out what articles have links to the requested articles? Ordinary Person 15:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Click on the red link, which will take you to a blank box where you could create the page. Then click on "What links here" on the left side of the screen. Maurreen 16:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Maurreen, you're a gem. Ordinary Person 00:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! How kind of you. Maurreen 00:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finding the links to the articles 

message: I checked the "What links here" for maybe five or 10 of these requests in the past few days. All or almost all had negligible links -- not just the number, but the type -- such as being linked from a page "Foobar topics." 
I am thinking about making comments in the list, such as about the number of "What links here" or Google hits, etc. And then maybe we could sort out items that probably aren't worth the time. Thoughts? Maurreen 16:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if this is a useful distinction. If we don't want obscure articles, we should simply remove them from Wikipedia:requested articles and this list. Leaving them on this list, but marking them as of questionable or unknown value, will simply discourage people from writing them and increase the length of time they sit as red links. Discouraging the creation of these articles is exactly counter to why this page exist. As a rule, any page that has not been created for so long is an obscure topic of little interest to anyone. However, we still get articles like William Johnson (artist), Breaking wave, and Dabney Oil Syndicate written on a regular basis. - SimonP 13:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked at a few articles lately. Sometimes, like with a persons name, it's hard to tell which person was requested. Sometimes, it doubious wheter we should spend time on them. Could a rating system help? meatclerk 21:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if all the requests are worth someone creating, having some notes or some other system could help people determine which of the requests are the best use of their time, for people who might create the articles. Maurreen 21:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but as you say virtually none of these requests have incoming links, so we will end up lumping almost every request into the  questionable or unknown categories. This will won't really make for a useful rating system. - SimonP 01:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, I'm going to try an idea with the people section. Basically, these requests should have a link to the dead-ended request. Let's see, if theory fits pratice. meatclerk 06:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maybe some of these shouldn't be articles

message: Recently, I was working on an article on this page, namely Jay Ryan. As it goes, I got a number of Speedy Deletes before an admin, or friendly person broke in. I cried FUD and went to lunch. When I came back someone was nice enough to fix up all the issues. None the less, some of these articles we might create are in danger of the same action, or similar, when we are not looking.  Is there a "we just filled this hole" tag? meatclerk 08:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that I know of. Maurreen 08:54, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabbit Hole Dangers 

message: Okay, I've made a change to the section People. Let me know what you think. meatclerk 07:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is much better. I have always thought that it would be useful to say which requests page a link has come from. My only concern is that it will be far more work to update this page. - SimonP 12:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. But I don't understand this: "Ricardo Granda - Nothing links -> Social Sciences and Philosophy". Maurreen 14:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, thanks. Maurreen 02:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Makes sense to me. Maurreen 04:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Those criteria constitute strong evidence, but are not sufficient alone to warrant deletion, you would need to judge wether there might be a good reason the Google test fails. (See Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias,Wikipedia:Google Test#Google Bias and Wikipedia:Notability (people)) Bfg 14:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it gets zero Google hits, do you realistically expect anyone working on this page to find any information to write the article? Maurreen 14:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: With some topics this does happen. For instance, many of the obscure math topics get no or virtually no Google hits, but a search of mathematics journals will usually find something. - SimonP 14:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: That is putting words into my mouth. There is not an equivalence between people working on this page being realistically able to resolve a request, and an article being worthy of inclusion. I am not arguing that such requests should not be denied, but we should take care and make judgements as to why a search term does not appear on Google. Let for instance a name sound very African, remember there are large parts of Africa who never have seen a computer, for this reason the name might not appear on the internet but still be notable. Had the name sounded English, there is a far greater chance the name is not notable. Bfg 09:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Experiment in Resolving Requests

message: I notice that an empty article has been created on this topic. Is someone working on this or was this a mistake? Ordinary Person 06:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intramolecular Forces 

message: *"Ryukoko", was not linked by any Wikipedia article. The only Google hits it received were misspellings of Ryukoku (the Japanese University). I deleted this entry. Ordinary Person 07:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Damn, I wanted to delete that one.. Oh well too slow. --Mashford 11:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: This list is definitely useful. The only one I have some qualms about is Charles Louis Eloi Pernet, who does seem to have some fame. - SimonP 01:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I did a stub for Charles Louis Eloi Pernet. Ordinary Person 02:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted entries 

message: Sent Co(salen) to Salen_ligands. Co(salen) is just a Salen ligand based on cobalt. It doesn't deserve its own article. Ordinary Person 02:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirected entries 

message: I don't see any way this could ever be more than a DICDEF...my vote would be to delete it --Thanatosil 16:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turn states' evidence 

message: I'm going to group some of the ungrouped articles together. For instance, Amenable Set is very closely related to the topic Jensen hierarchy. (Indeed, I would suggest a topic on Jensen hierarchy would cover the topic Amenable Set fully. Ordinary Person 06:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closely related topics 

message: A lot of the biology articles are linked only from the /biology scratch page of User:Rikurzhen. I left a "hello" and a "little help?" message on his or her user page.Ordinary Person 23:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biology articles 

message: Even among respectable sources, there seems to be discrepancy about the order of Chinese names. e.g. Some will say Yu Yang, others will say Yang Yu (clearly the same person: same birthdate and awards etc). Not sure whether to create redirects for those. Ordinary Person 11:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirects are cheap, and when in doubt it is usually a good idea to create them. - SimonP 01:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese names 

message: Have our changes to the format of the project page interfered with the operation of the Bot (referred to on the page) whose job it is to remove the blue links?
I have to say, it has been very satisfying to see the blue replace the red, like an invading army, but I know that's not how it is meant to be. Ordinary Person 01:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot operation