Talk:Rudolf Wanderone

message: If he hinted at having been born as early as 1900, a New York State Census (1925, behind a paywall) shows a "Rudolf J. Wanderone" aged 12. This is the only person identified as having such a name born in New York State. Some obituaries show him born on 19 January 1900 and some show him born on 19 January 1913. It is highly unlikely that anyone could be 25 and look 12.
Not behind a paywall, he is shown in the US Census as a cashier at a billiard parlor at the age 27 at the Arlington Hotel in Shreveport, Caddo County, Louisiana. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MR-G3D6?mode=g&i=20&cc=2000219 Pbrower2a (talk) 04:23, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: The article makes a point of noting "However, there is no published evidence of such a relationship"; whilst I understand what point is being made here (i.e., there's absolutely no support for this save Etta James's own account), what "published evidence" was/ is likely to exist for what was no doubt a (very) short-lived relationship between Wanderone and James's mother? It's not likely any of the people James refers to as "there and ought to know" would happen to have written a book about- or even briefly addressing- the subject, after all. It just seems that, given the article's already extremely circumspect on James's claim, the sentence highlighted above seems out of place, particularly given the circumstances involved.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.68.40 (talk) 02:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Etta James

message: Wanderone, who was sometimes known by the nickname "New York Fats" in his role as a pool player,[4] adopted the nickname "Minnesota Fats" from the character of that name in the 1961 film The Hustler, falsely claiming that the character, played by Jackie Gleason, was based upon him.[4]
However, Derek Kirunchyk researched this matter thoroughly by examining the pages of Tevis' original manuscript and discovered for nearly 60 years, ever since the release of The Hustler, that those who follow the sport widely assumed that Wanderone had lied about his own provenance, but Telvis changed the character's nickname from "New York" to "Minnesota" in one of the original manuscript pages, which supports Wanderone's claim that he was, in fact, the Minnesota Fats in the novel.[18]
There is a good probability that the character, played by Jackie Gleason, was, in fact, based on Rudolf Wanderone. It is probable that Tevis is denying that the character is based upon Rudolf Wanderone so they do not have to pay Rudolf Waderone rights to use him for the character.Easeltine (talk) 15:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems like a Contradiction in the Article