Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Pig mask

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== Raw count analysis ==
* Delete
# Otto4711 <afd nominator> (14 edits)
# Doctorfluffy
# Tevildo 
# Masterpiece2000 
# Revanche 
# Ridernyc (8 edits)
* Keep
# CyberGhostface (13 edits) 
# Wageless (5 edits) 
# Hobit 
# Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles
# Agent452 (3 edits)
* Merge
** to Jigsaw Killer
# Master of Puppets  
# Lenin and McCarthy (2 edits) 
# Jackel (said "delete then merge")
* Non-participatory
# DGG (commented on process, but not article or subject)
# SineBot (doing what sinebot does)
# Jerry (relist without any commentary) <closer> 
== Rough consensus rationale ==
=== Delete arguments ===
* fails WP:NOT#PLOT 
* no reliable sources to establish real-world context
* sources provided are not independant of the subject or are obviously biased towards it
=== Discounted delete arguments ===
* another movie prop is more notable and doesn't have it's own article
* no reason for this to have it's own article
* the subject is not unique
* no sources with critical commentary
=== Keep arguments ===
* since nomination article has been improved to include subject's development outside of films, its impact on the series and on popular culture
* a link provided in the article is a review of the subject
* iconic part of notable film series
* subject achieved a cultural presence that is independent of the movie
* of interest to the reader, provides encyclopedic content
=== Discounted keep arguments ===
* subject marketed as various consumer goods
* subject shown in promotional materials for notable films in which it appears
* article is well written
* verifiable; concerns a recognizable aspect of a notable film series
* sources are clearly there
* seems notable
* no harm caused by keeping this article
* inherits notability from notable film series
* if we delete it what will it's editors do?
As the nominator pointed-out several times during the course of this discussion, it was given ample time to reach consensus.  This did not occur, however.  Ergo: No consensus (default keep) JERRY talk contribs 02:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closing administrator's remarks 

message: === Delete arguments ===
* fails WP:NOT#PLOT 
* no reliable sources to establish real-world context
* sources provided are not independant of the subject or are obviously biased towards it
=== Discounted delete arguments ===
* another movie prop is more notable and doesn't have it's own article
* no reason for this to have it's own article
* the subject is not unique
* no sources with critical commentary
=== Keep arguments ===
* since nomination article has been improved to include subject's development outside of films, its impact on the series and on popular culture
* a link provided in the article is a review of the subject
* iconic part of notable film series
* subject achieved a cultural presence that is independent of the movie
* of interest to the reader, provides encyclopedic content
=== Discounted keep arguments ===
* subject marketed as various consumer goods
* subject shown in promotional materials for notable films in which it appears
* article is well written
* verifiable; concerns a recognizable aspect of a notable film series
* sources are clearly there
* seems notable
* no harm caused by keeping this article
* inherits notability from notable film series
* if we delete it what will it's editors do?
As the nominator pointed-out several times during the course of this discussion, it was given ample time to reach consensus.  This did not occur, however.  Ergo: No consensus (default keep) JERRY talk contribs 02:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rough consensus rationale 

message: * subject marketed as various consumer goods
* subject shown in promotional materials for notable films in which it appears
* article is well written
* verifiable; concerns a recognizable aspect of a notable film series
* sources are clearly there
* seems notable
* no harm caused by keeping this article
* inherits notability from notable film series
* if we delete it what will it's editors do?
As the nominator pointed-out several times during the course of this discussion, it was given ample time to reach consensus.  This did not occur, however.  Ergo: No consensus (default keep) JERRY talk contribs 02:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discounted keep arguments