Talk:List of peninsulas

message: (List of peninsulas) should be a sub category to Peninsulas. It should talk more about what a peninsula is and how it is created along with other geographical facts and information.
Oklahoma3477 (talk) 05:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This should be renamed (Peninsula) 

message: I think a picture of Italian Peninsula taken by satellite (it is in Italy and Italian peninsula pages) could be an excellent and famous example of peninsula.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by79.44.226.74 (talk) 14:36, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The one that was selected is too dark. Need either a regular map or one in which the outline of Italy can be clearly distinguished. Student7 (talk) 00:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Italian Peninsula

message: This is in the wrong category. I suggest this article should be transferred to the article, 'List of Peninsulas'. This article also needs more information on how a general peninsula is formed! callumbm 18:47, 25 September 2008 (GMT)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.17.101 (talk)  
::It seems like peninsulas can't be formed, it's just a word for a piece of land. Basics tectonics apply here. --2.245.119.43 (talk) 20:08, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance??? 

message: Steinsky, I think you have missed the point about the Cornwall/England debate.  The list of peninsulars gives a geographical location and is not a legal definition (as the Cornwall page states).  As the majority of people in Cornwall beleive that Cornwall is a seperate entity to England I think Penwith and The Lizard should be described as Cornwall, United Kingdom rather than England, United Kingdom.  Any comments? --Cyr 10:12, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest changing the whole lot to counties, that will do the job of giving increased geographical information and will avoid POV.  Joe D (t) 12:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

text: I think thats a fair compromise.  Good Idea Joe D --Cyr 16:27, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you really suggesting that most people in Cornwall don't consider the county to be part of England? That's rather a radical claim that would need citation from some reputable source. Besides, what people think Cornwall ought to be is beside the point in this article: legally and actually, Cornwall is a county of England. Booshank (talk) 21:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cornwall/England 

message: Hellöüw. These are my thoughts:
It is often stated that a narrowing of land is the distinguishing feature that sets apart a peninsula (such as, say the Alaskan Peninsula or all of mainland Alaska) from a subcontinent or similarly shaped protrusion (such as, say, the Balkan "Peninsula" or the Southern Cone). Like this:
:*ISLAND = Δ
:*PENINSULA = Ω
:*SUBCONTINENT/PROTRUSION = Λ
If this standard is worth adhering to, then it should make it easier to delimit, rank and enumerate the peninsulas along the lines of the List of islands by area and by population, eh? Or is not that straight-forward? //Big Adamsky 21:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's all relative of course. I mean following the logic of "flanked by water on three sides", one could call South America a peninsula. So appearantly there are subconscious limits as to what we call a peninsula. I'm not sure it's necessary to delimit all of that stuff explicitly in the article, but well, why not? I mean isn't it an encyclopedia's ultimate task to delimit concepts clearly? That is: if clear limitations exist at all, I mean, the limits as to what land mass is too big to call a peninsula are quite subjective, aren't they, and they will vary from person to person. I sympathize with your above attempt to clearly classify types of land masses according to what shape they have. But I'm sure numerous exceptions exits, I mean I'm pretty sure that plenty of Λ-shaped land masses exist that are still called a peninsula, for instance. And as I said, some land masses may have a Ω-shape, but yet be so big that nobody calls them a peninsula. So I think it will become quite hard to come up with a classification system that is clear, objective and still meaningful. (RagingR2 20:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thoughts on subcontinents and isthmuses

message: Shouldn't Gibraltar be added? As that's often referred to as a peninsular..
:It is already included. --Gibmetal 77talk 17:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibraltar 

message: This article is unasessed, is under the scope of no WikiProject, and I think it's (literally) abandoned. Who is in charge of this article? Nobody. Also, it doesn't provide ANY definiton of peninsula! It's basically a "list of peninsulas", not an article about "peninsula". Please, would somebody avoid the trashing of this article? I think it's convenient to change this article's name to List of peninsular bodies and start a new, correct article about "Peninsula". Plus it's a List-Class article. Can somebody get a good article about "Peninsula"?. We are not going anywhere...--J.C. (talk) 17:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on that it whould be moved to List of Peninsulas as that is what it is. --Gibmetal 77talk 17:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Abandoned

message: how do they form?
Mr. Wondering  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.130.159 (talk) 00:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  peninsulas 

message: I notice a number of edits and reversals over the corect naming of this body of water (see Sea of Japan naming dispute for context).
I appreciate that users from Korea may call it by different names. The Sea of Japan is, however, the established name and the dispute is detailed in the article mentioned above as well as at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)#Sea of Japan (East Sea) and Talk:East Sea for example. I've used both names in my current revision, although with dominance to the Sea of Japan as that's the wiki standard: this is an international article not a Korean or Japanese one (see both articles above).
Is that acceptable to users? The alternative is to go with the firm wiki recommendation that as an international article in the Englsh language wiki that we use Sea of Japan alone.
Continually renaming it one way or the other strikes me as a waste of time and resources so if we can agree on a compromise it'd be best for everyone I think. Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sea of Japan/East Sea 

message: I've removed the references to England being a peninsula extending south from Scotland etc... They don't strike me a geographically accurate and do nothing to further the scope of the article other than to score points in an argument that doesn't belong here. If you really think they should be back again then let's talk about it here first rather than get into an edit war -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a set of reliable third party references that describe it as such then I'd be interested to see the citations. Until then I think we might be better off leaving it as it is so as to avoid silliness -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  England, Wales and Scotland 

message: Why is peninsula in quotes without an explanation for the quotes?
:Good question - I've removed them. We'll see if anyone complains... -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Balkan "Peninsula"

message: The entirety of the lede comprises two short sentences, one definitional and the other descriptive:
:"A peninsula is a piece of land that is nearly surrounded by water but connected to mainland via an isthmus.
:A peninsula can also be a headland, cape, island promontory, bill, point, or spit."
A single citation of a generalist encyclopedia is given.
This seems to me unsatisfactory on several grounds:
# The first definition is somewhat contradicted by the second (possibly incomplete) description.
# Many landforms often referred to as peninsulas, and listed in the article as such, do not possess anything resembling an isthmus; Cape York, The Balkans, Iberia, Devon & Cornwall to name but four.
# There is controversy over the peninsularity of some candidates - I recall vehement disagreements in the talk pages of The Balkans, for example.
# One might expect a difference between academic/scientific and colloquial applications of the term which, if existing, is not clarified.
I suggest that the article needs amending and expanding to take these (and other?) questions into consideration. Before attempting to do so myself, I invite others to contribute thoughts here.
One datum of use would be an authoritative specialist (i.e. Geographers') definition of "peninsula." Unfortunately the best reference I have to hand is A Dictionary of Geography: Revised and Enlarged Edition by W. G. Moore (Penguin, 1968) which is really intended for a general readership: its relevant entry merely reads "PENINSULA. A stretch of land almost surrounded by water." This at any rate omits the requirement of an isthmus - does anyone know where the (disputable) idea of an isthmus being necessary originates? 87.81.230.195 (talk) 16:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope for Improvement 

message: I was under the impression that peninsulas are defined by the existence of an isthmus, however, in the course of recent discussion in the "Macedonia (ancient kingdom) talk page" I was told that an isthmus is not necessary.
Could someone please clarify this issue. If in fact an isthmus is not a requirement and if the term "Greek peninsula" is valid, could it be added to the list of peninsulas in this page?
Thanks,Ilidio Martins (talk) 23:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Peninsula? 

message: Why is this List of peninsulas instead of just Peninsula? 98.82.180.48 (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: After a brief discussion at #Abandoned it was moved from Peninsula in April 2008  with edit summary "The scope of the article has been reduced, extended or otherwise changed." It does look a lot like a list of peninsulas. Maybe the question should be why there is a redirect at Peninsula instead of a non-list article. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation.  Next time I'll read the talk page first. 98.82.180.48 (talk) 00:41, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for title of article ? 

message: New Jersey is surrounded on three sides by water and previously was listed as a peninsula.  It was removed on Feb. 22 by a user whose only other edit is also removing mention of NJ as a peninsula.  I have reverted to the previous version and bring it up for discussion here.  Does NJ belong on the list as a peninsula? 69.127.19.233 (talk) 08:37, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The text says "can be viewed as a peninsula", can you show a reliable source that considers it a peninsula? --Muhandes (talk) 09:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at this map, the land border with New York seems about as wide as any other part of the state: it's really not an isthmus.  I see how the southern half of the state "can be viewed" as a peninsula, but not for the state as a whole being one single peninsula - that seems very misleading.  WmGB (talk) 04:52, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Jersey 

message: As a British geographer, I have never come across the words 'biland' or 'byland' - in which part/s of the English-speaking world are peninsulas known as bilands? It would be useful to have a reference for this. cheers Geopersona (talk) 06:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biland or byland 

message: This is a list. If it is likely to remain so, it should be renamed List of peninsulas. RockMagnetist (talk) 01:08, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It used to be! If you read a couple of talk articles up there ^ you'll see a similar discussion from when it was! The article has two parts - the definition bit at the top which certainly needs to stay in an article of its own and the list elements, which might be better off being split into their own list article. It appears (from the redirect of List of peninsulas) the article was moved from the list name (which it isn't fwiw) on 2011-12-23 - so not so long ago! Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:34, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead is actually a standard part of a list. Apparently the idea was to add more text in the body, but that hasn't happened yet. Maybe this should be moved back to List of peninsulas while someone works on an article in an incubator. RockMagnetist (talk) 15:11, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My gut feeling would be to leave this article here with the list stuff moved out really - it's more likely to mean it gets improved if it's in place I think. I can see pros and cons with this though (and it's prob against all the protocols etc...). I certainly think that's the long term solution to the problem anyway. I am stupidly busy for the next 3 weeks but will try and find time after that to work on this - it's an area I should be able to find suitable references and so on for. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:23, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: O.k. I'll leave the tags, though, in case other people want to comment. Maybe now that it has a WikiProject banner, more people will notice this article. RockMagnetist (talk) 14:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether this article is a list or not, it should remain at the title Peninsula and not be moved to List of peninsulas because list articles do not need the words "List of" in the title and titles should as simple as possible. Neelix (talk) 02:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: From the article: "In many Germanic and Celtic languages and also in Baltic, Slavic, Hungarian, Chinese, Hebrew and Korean, peninsulas are called "half-islands"[citation needed]."
Finding external references for all this seems like quite a task. 
In the peninsula Wikidata item, I found the following Germanic labels which literally mean "half-island":
* da (Danish): halvø
* de (German): Halbinsel
* nb (Norwegian bokmål): halvøy
* nds (Low German): Halfeiland
* nn (Norwegian nynorsk): halvøy
* sv (Swedish): halvö
The other languages I'm sorry to say I know nothing about, but maybe this list can serve as a starting point for sourcing and/or modifying the statement anyway. - Soulkeeper (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Half-island 

message: Since reverting a change of Sea of Japan to "East Sea", I discovered that there is a Wikipedia article Sea of Japan naming dispute which covers the topic in detail. I claim no personal interest in the matter, but I note that East Sea is a disambiguation page, which can only be confusing to the reader who is not familiar with the dispute. If someone has a good reason for the change, let them argue it. TomS TDotO (talk) 15:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Sea vs. Sea of Japan 

message: I'm just wondering, would Coronado in San Diego County be considered a peninsula? I mean, it was originally an island, but the U. S. Navy made a land bridge. Would it be considered an "artificial peninsula?"
Sandvallia (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coronado 

message: What is a side? The shape of a landmass has innumerable sides facing to different directions. The definition is not clear at all. --2.245.161.123 (talk) 12:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, such as simple question, with no simple answer, like so many words.  I understand what a "side" is.  I know it when I seen a side, but I cannot come up with a simple definition.  Merriam-Webster has (roughly) 25 definitions of "side" see here.  I suppose definition number 2 is most applicable: "2: a place, space, or direction with respect to a center or to a line of division (as of an aisle, river, or street)".  I do not think that it needs to be defined in the article. Most English speakers will understand it. Those that cannot, we can -- and do -- provide pictures and examples. Do we need better pictures? --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 08:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not asking for the word "side" to be defined, but the definition of a peninsula stated in this article is based on a word unsuited in this context. A country is not a rectangle with well-defined sides. I hear the word peninsula everywhere, but I fail to understand the concept. It seems like everything is a peninsula. If I went to a coast, would every protruding rock be a peninsula? --2.245.190.51 (talk) 12:27, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three sides? 

message: Kamchatka peninsula is in Asian part of Russia. At the moment, it is mentioned under both continent. Just like Turkish peninsulas are divided in two between Europe and Asia categories, Russian peninsulas should be divided in two as well and Asian peninsulas should not be repeated under Europe. Baloglu (talk) 12:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian Peninsulas in Asia listed under Europe 

message: By all definitions, Turkey is a peninsula and in the first picture of Eurasia being a peninsula, Turkey is not highlighted. That picture looks more of a European Union picture than a peninsula picture, so it is inappropriate. Iceland, Ireland and England are highlighted even though they are islands, yet Turkey is not. The picture is misleading. Merterm (talk) 13:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey is not in Eurasian Peninsula Picture