Talk:Excess post-exercise oxygen consumption

message: The changes I made reflect the following facts:
# Anaerobic exercise is higher in intensity than aerobic exercise, that's why it reaches the anaerobic regime.
For some definition of intensity, as measured over short durations. Other common measures of intensity are percentage of maximum effort for a given time. Just like 10RM is the maximum effort for that exercise, one can measure percentage of maximum aerobic effort over a given time. This is used to equate the two exercise regimes. - Taxman 15:51, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
# The combination of intensity and recovery intervals over a period of anaerobic exercise may produce a lower calorie output than aerobic exercise during exercise; but, 
# it will produce a higher calorie consumption over the 24 hours beginning with the exercise.
You keep claiming this but your source does not agree, neither do the others. Find the source that supports that. - Taxman 15:51, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
# You can't prove that something hasn't been shown.
# "Whether this result was caused by the EPOC effect has not been established" is impossible to prove; it's nothing but a POV opinion.  The sense that more than EPOC may be going on is covered in "caloric expenditure that occurs during the EPOC phase after anaerobic exercise."
:Of course it is impossible to prove. If you want to be pedantic, almost anything is. So it boils down to a question of evidence. It is fact that it has not been established "Whether this result was caused by the EPOC effect". We're not asking for proof, just evidence to support that claim. You have repeatedly ignore that request. - Taxman 15:51, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
It's redundant with the statement that was there before the paragraph was added, but some people don't seem to have a sense of when less is more, which goes with their lack of a sense of when facts are supportable. Blair P. Houghton 03:29, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What the evidence supports

message: Blair P. Houghton says he has lost interest in editing here, and I see no movement at all on the Draft article, so I am unprotecting. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 22:45, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotect 

message: Both redirect to here, however this is a different, albeit related, thing. I think either this should be expanded to something more general, or seperate articles need to be written. I'm leaning more towards the latter, and if I can get around to it, I'll lay down some basic articles. ObsidianOps (talk) 01:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there should definitely be a separate article for that concept. EPOC is a pretty specific one and can't really be generalized without losing something. If I'm thinking about it right, oxygen deficit is what happens during and immediately after intense exercise. EPOC is specifically defined as after exercise. Though maybe technically experiencing extended EPOC is defined as an oxygen deficit too. Either way, I think this is a case that they are just redirected because no one got around to dealing with them yet. - Taxman Talk 13:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxygen Deficit and Oxygen Debt 

message: I am not sure that all forms of torture in which an oxygen deficit is induced to build up an oxygen debt can be called "exercise" & in some people (i'm thinking of asthmatics and people with some blood conditions) i think the debt may be caused not so much by the use of ATP rising above the maximum rate at which the system that produces it is able to do so but the maximum capacity at which the system can create ATP falling below the rate at which the ATP is being used up; the system being one that includes not only the blood but also the breathing. Breathing becomes difficult in asthmatics during an asthma attack.109.158.139.223 (talk) 14:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Oxygen debt in Torture Victims and Asthmatics

message: Found a PDF of the study that's summarised on http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html.... http://www.colorado.edu/intphys/Class/IPHY3700_Greene/TIPS/exIntesity/Tremblay.pdf. Might be a better reference for the wikipage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glen newell (talk • contribs) 03:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual paper that is summarised on www.exrx.net