Talk:Black Canadians

message: Why is this article named like this?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thereedeemedperson22 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I Would like to point out that, African Canadian is a incorrect term. The American stood for North America, not the United States of America.
: Irrelevant. The community is free to make its own choices as to how it identifies. It doesn't matter how US-Americans use the word "American"; if it lands inappropriately on Canadian ears, that's the final word no matter what. Bearcat 02:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed that DeirYassin 21:44, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: General discussion

message: To say that Black Canadian refers to Canadians of "African or Caribbean descent" seems misleading; many Caribbean people are of non-African origin (especially Chinese and Indian; and for that matter, European) and do not consider themselves black. Those Caribbean people of African descent would be included by saying simple "Canadians of African descent" only. So, I propose to remove the "or Caribbean" from the definition. Sharkford 20:33, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: On the other hand, many West Indians of non-African descent consider themselves "black", especially when they find themselves in "white people country".  Many Trinidadians see "black" as a term for "non-white" and prefer the term "negro" for people of African descent.  Guettarda 21:34, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

text: As the article makes quite clear, in the particular context of Canada there's a very real tension between Caribbean and non-Caribbean black Canadians as to the definition and labelling of their communities. Even taking into account the fact that Caribbean blacks are usually (although, as Guettarda correctly points out above, not always) of African heritage when you trace further back, they object quite strongly to the elision of their Caribbean history. I've tried a rewrite which is hopefully clearer about the complexity of the issue, but simply removing "or Caribbean" isn't the way to do it in this case. Bearcat 22:42, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm aware of the tension between Black Canadians of (recent) Caribbean origin and those who trace their lineage otherwise (overheard: "My, what a lovely accent you have; what exotic island are you from?"—"Cape Breton!"); and also between "afro-" and "indo-" people within the former community, though even on re-reading I don't think I'd agree that the article makes this particularly clear. But perhaps this is material for a different article. I was unaware that Caribbean people with no African ancestry (for example, Trinidadians of solely Indian or Chinese ancestry) grouped themselves as Black, so many thanks for that information. At any rate I think the rewrite is very good. Sharkford 14:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I really don't know where the stats are from; I didn't add them. But we would certainly need an annotated factual reference to back up any assertion that Jamaicans alone constituted 50% of the community. Bearcat 08:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think within the context of this article it's pretty clear we are referring to black Africans origin and refer to any people of African descent.  Even census canada is using the common use of the term during the recensement.  http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/tbt/Rp-eng.cfm?A=R&APATH=3&D1=0&D2=0&D3=0&D4=0&D5=0&D6=0&DETAIL=0&DIM=0&FL=A&FREE=0&GC=01&GID=837928&GK=1&GRP=1&LANG=E&O=D&PID=92333&PRID=0&PTYPE=88971%2C97154&S=0&SHOWALL=0&SUB=0&TABID=1&THEME=80&Temporal=2006&VID=0&VNAMEE=&VNAMEF=  Analyzer99 (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:   I'll give other few examples: http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=37442&Cr=slave&Cr1= http://www.canadaviews.ca/2011/01/24/february-proclaimed-african-heritage-month-in-nova-scotia/ Analyzer99 (talk) 13:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Caribbean" descent? 

message: Gawd, how I wish Toronto Star links stayed active more than a week...this would be a really choice external link here. Bearcat 08:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Identity labels

message: This article at one time contained an unsourced claim that half of all black Canadians were of Jamaican origin alone. Then, when somebody provided an actual sourced demographic breakdown, the percentage of Jamaicans was around 38, so the sentence in question was changed to "a third" accordingly. Now, all of a sudden, the claim is back to half, and the sourced percentages have been taken back out. Can somebody explain why we're removing actual sources from Wikipedia articles, and/or provide a real source to support the "half" claim? Remember that information in Wikipedia has to be verifiable. Bearcat 15:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographic question

message: In AshleyMorton's words, "I believe this article's topic to be something that neither requires nor merits a Wikipedia article. I believe that the current low quality of the article (which seems to be not much more than a recitation of demographic statistics with the addition of a single paragraph of not-fully-relevant history) does not, as some might suggest, mean that the article should be improved. I believe, instead, that it demonstrates that a Wikipedia-quality article cannot be written on this topic. The poor article quality is, of course, just a symptom of the lack of encyclopedic nature of this topic. First, I believe that this article has been created to bolster a school of thought which believes that this identity exists. An article on that sort of racialized thinking might be valid, of course, but that's not the same thing as creating an article which should only exist if you buy into their belief system.
As an example of the sort of confused thinking that must have lead to the creation of this article, the "Ethnic group" infobox template has been used. However, this confounds the concept of a skin colour and an "ethnicity". Ethnicity, as reported by Statistics Canada (for example), includes most national identities that can be seriously considered. "Quebecois" (apologies for lack of accents) is included, as is "Canadian", "Irish", "Lebanese" and "Ethiopian". THOSE are ethnicities (or at least, they're worthy of Wikipedia articles, because they clearly encompass a set of people who understand themselves by the label. However, the set of people who understand their own ethnicity to be "Black Canadian" is very different from the set of people described by the label.
Finally, I will head off the most obvious and useless argument - which has been used both in the article and on its talk page. In fact, the first sentence of the article is, I believe, nothing more than an attempt to justify the very existence of the article. Any article that must do that is on shaky ground.) The argument basically says that because StatsCan counts it, it must be a valid article. This is an irrelevant point, as StatsCan counts numerous things that are not worthy of articles - can you picture an article with the title "Single Family Dwellings in Kenora" ??? AshleyMorton 16:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: RyanRP is unhappy with other editors at talk:White Canadian, and is making a WP:POINT. —Michael Z. 2006-12-05 23:40 Z
*I agree that the same academic standards should be applied to all race/ethnic articles on Wikipedia. The logic that is being used to propose deletion of the White Canadian article can just as easily be applied to this article and similar articles. Spylab 00:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it can't. "Black Canadian" is a specific cultural identity with a legitimately encyclopedic common history, a legitimately encyclopedic social and cultural context. "White Canadian" is just a weird POV attempt to create an imaginary equivalence that doesn't actually exist in the real world. Bearcat 01:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: What's the correct spelling? Both spellings appear in this article. Spylab 23:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Matthew DeCosta or Mathieu Da Costa?

message: I changed the opening to be more accurate and simple. The old definition left out many people who are considered, and consider themselves, black Canadians. For example, the old definition referred to citizens, which excludes people who have landed immigrant status. Also some black people might not be able to directly trace their ancestry back to Africa.
The term black Canadian refers to black people who reside in Canada.
Most black Canadians could trace their ancestry back to people who were indigenous to Africa. The vast majority have relatively recent origins in the Caribbean, while others trace their lineage to the first slaves brought by British and French colonists to British North America.
 Spylab 00:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Improved definition

message: This article desperately needs references. There are many stastical and historical claims that need to be backed up by reliable sources, instead as accepted as fact on the word of whoever added them to the article. Spylab 00:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article needs references

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: The statement "One example is Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin, who is buried in Dresden, Ontario" in the article, noting the "sizable community in Nova Scotia and Southern Ontario who trace their ancestry to freed American slaves" is completely false as Harriet Beecher Stowe is white and is buried at Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts.
Donkeys4ever 20:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, I have removed it.  Thanks for pointing out. Dina 20:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harriet Beecher Stowe 

message: I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, but requires more in-line citations and an expansion of the prose. I have assessed this as low importance as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 16:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

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message: For now, I suggest leaving British Columbia out of this section in the infobox. BC doesn't have a large percentage of black people in it's cities like Vancouver and Victoria. I think that this section should be changed to say "predominantly Eastern Canada", since the vast majority of black people live there. What do you guys think? Blackjays1 (talk) 19:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Regions with significant populations"

message: Seems kind of irrelavant we know the whole world is mixed, unless we are saying these are mulattos it is not a relevant statement.  Considering Canada is 90 percent white it is more likely that there are white people with black ancestry, than vice versa, espcially considering how much many more black men there are than women, according to this page.  If blacks are marrying whites and we are the majority it only makes sense that there kids will marry white and usually someone who is one quarter black don't look all that different than us regular whites.  Saying someone is 1/8 of a race is kind of irrelvant, I highly doubt anyone in Canada is pure unless they are a F.O.B.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihba (talk • contribs) 17:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some white Canadians who have black ancestry, don't know they are part black. Some do know, but they have denied their black roots. I agreed, the whole world is mixed. Homer33 04:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Origins 

message: According to some studies by McGill university the amount of blacks may be seriously under represented as only 1/2 of Jamaicans and Haitians are identiifying themselves on black in censuses.  
"The report is a response to one consequence of African-Canadian diversity: the fact that almost half of us do not identify ourselves as "black" on Canadian census documents. Indeed, 43 percent of African-heritage respondents to the 1991 census listed themselves as French or British, or as Barbadian, Ethiopian, Ghanaian, Haitian, Somali, Jamaican, Trinidadian / Tobagonian, etc., leading to a serious undercounting of African-heritage Canadians. Wally Boxhill, a former Statistics Canada employee, re-cast the numbers to include the above groups as Black Canadians. This means that, as of 1991, there were 504, 290 blacks in Canada, not 366,625 as formerly counted."(http://news-archive.mcgill.ca/w97/black.htm)
This would mean that there are actually 1.38 or 38% more black Canadians than the stats actually show  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihba (talk • contribs) 01:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's too hard to sort that out, and it would take way too long. I can only suggest that we do our census like the U.S. census. In the U.S., if you are black, you only have the choice of selecting "African American" and "Hispanic or Latino". Blackjays1 (talk) 07:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I'd note that the statistic you're citing here is from a study conducted on the 1991 census. There have been three censuses since then, and the number of Black Canadians in all of those is much closer to Boxhill's revised estimate than to the 1991 data. Which means things have improved since Clarke's article (which is also ten years old now). I've included this source in the article, although it had to be cast in a somewhat different context than what it would seem here. Bearcat (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers 

message: I came across references to these two books, which sound interesting. If anyone has access to them, perhaps you could add info from them directly to the article.
*From Slavery to the Ghetto the Story of the Negro in the Maritimes, Wedderburn, H.A.J., pg. 1
* Beneath the Clouds of the Promised Land-The Survival of Nova Scotia's Blacks Vol. 1 1600 -1800, Pachai Bridglal pgs. 33
BrainyBabe (talk) 09:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources to investigate? 

message: This may sound like I'm going crazy, but I (Harold26) find it is politically incorrect to call someone (or a group of people) a "Black Canadian" because it could be found as racism. It's not that it is offensive, it just doesn't seem right at all to call them that. Of course, that's my opinion, and I'm not asking for the page to be moved. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Harold26 (c) 06:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's certainly a problematic term, no question. But right now there isn't actually an alternative to it: Caribbean-Canadians, as a rule, don't care to be identified or referred to as "African-Canadian". So while it is always preferable to identify individual people as specifically as possible (i.e. Jamaican-Canadian, Trinidadian-Canadian, Nigerian-Canadian, etc.), unfortunately "Black Canadian" is still the standard term in Canada for the community as a whole when it's necessary to refer to them collectively. Bearcat (talk) 07:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll agree with Bearcat, although Black Canadian may be insulting to some, I don't think it should change unless a suitable alternative can be found.Ghyslyn (talk) 23:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debate - Politically incorrect term? 

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message: I added Donovan Bailey, Jarome Iginla and Marlene Jennings to the infobox as I thought more examples might be nice. I realize I didn't consult anyone, so if anyone has a problem with it, let me know. I realize Marlene Jennings might not be too notable but she had a picture, and I'm not great with adding new pictures to wikipedia. Anyways, I don't want it to appear partisan so if anyone can get some other pictures up there it would be great. Basser g (talk) 19:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Gregory Charles, a wellknown black francophone entertainer from Montreal, might be a good addition to the infobox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.228.51 (talk) 04:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if and when we have a properly-licensed photo of him to actually add (i.e. you can't just upload a copyrighted photo from his press kit). We don't, at present. Bearcat (talk) 04:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion of Gregory Charles

message: I remove the category, because it is not an ethnic group. If it were an ethnic group, the very least would be to speak the same language, but some speak Spanish, other speak English, other speak French or creole, or Portuguese.
I have strong doubts about the contents of the "related groups" sections in the infobox and in the article text : why should Black Canadians be more related to other Africa-related non-Canadian groups, like African-Americans, than to other non-Black Canadians ? Isn't Michaelle Jean married to a French man. Doesn't marriage count as a "relation" ? Doesn't that create a relation between her group and her husband's ? 
For that reason, I add Template:citation needed for each mentioned so-called "related group". 
Teofilo talk 01:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because when it comes to race and ethnicity, "related" is a matter of shared ancestry, not of "these two groups happen to occupy the same country now" or of "some individual members of this group happen to be married to individual members of that group". Black Canadians are ethnically or racially related to African Americans by virtue of having the same ancestors; their relationships with white Canadians or Asian Canadians or First Nations, while obviously not irrelevant to their cultural context, aren't primarily racial or ethnic in nature. Bearcat (talk) 05:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of [[:Category:Ethnic groups in Canada]] and related groups 

message: March 24#Events says that Black Canadians were given the right to vote in 1837. This milestone event should be mentioned in the article or even have its own section. I don't know anything about the subject so I wouldn't know where to start. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 13:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Right to vote 

message: This article is great, but mostly focuses on Ontario and NS (which makes sense), where I am most African-Canadians are relatively recent refugees from Sudan, Somalia, Burundi, Rwanda, DRC. I think there are several places in Western Canada where this is the case. Here people I know identify themselves just by country (ie Rwandan or Rwandan-Canadian). 
There is also a newspaper here which is Afro-Carribean (Vancouver) and very flexible re definitions and inclusion. Maybe we need more regional information - I know Montreal gets a lot more people from Haiti and francophone Africa, and, as well all know migration patterns are unique in each part of the country.
Also - I know this is a can of worms, but BC also has a lot of white South Africans - the majority of doctors in the north are South African, mostly Afrikaners. Not sure where, or how this belongs, but perhaps somewhere. 
Also - there's some data noting that people in Canada are more likely to identify as mixed than people in the US. This may be worth identifying.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.218.83 (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Refugees

message: In the introduction it is mentioned that the majority of Black Canadians are Caribbean Canadians.  While I don't mind the mention, but I don't think it's true anymore due to "recent" immigration from Africa (adding up to the previous historical one).  My only source about this not being true anymore is:
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/tbt/Rp-eng.cfm?A=R&APATH=3&D1=0&D2=0&D3=0&D4=0&D5=0&D6=0&DETAIL=0&DIM=0&FL=A&FREE=0&GC=01&GID=837928&GK=1&GRP=1&LANG=E&O=D&PID=92333&PRID=0&PTYPE=88971%2C97154&S=0&SHOWALL=0&SUB=0&TABID=1&THEME=80&Temporal=2006&VID=0&VNAMEE=&VNAMEF= I propose to change the sentence to "A large proportion of Black Canadians are Caribbean Canadians" and to remove "A minority of the population are of recent African origin".  Since it's not true anymore and to be on a safe side.  I have only one source to this but since it's statistic Canada it seems to be a valid one.  I don't mind it one way or another, but I think it's better if the article reflect the true situation of today. Analyzer99 (talk) 13:21, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still true. The vast majority of blacks in Canada are of West Indian descent. The problem with that Statistics Canada reference is that it only reports responses, meaning that the reported populations for each ethnic group are actually much greater. During that census, many blacks (Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, etc.) likely listed their ethnicity as "Canadian", which about 33% of all Canadians did on the census form. As well, many blacks listed their ethnicity as "West Indian", "Caribbean", "African", or "Black" which is further proof that these are only responses, and the population figures are not entirely accurate. This reference , which is in the article, shows that the majority of blacks in Canada have West Indian descent. Blackjays1 (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The majority of Black Canadians are Caribbean Canadians

message: I see that we have this problem again - that is the word black has been removed and unlinked  in the lead. I take it this is due to the fact that someone believes the word is a slur in  some sort of way? Because as on now the refs don't match the statement. I will post this link here Stats can so that all can see the wording used in Canada...Will revert after someone else see this.Moxy (talk) 14:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Word black  

message: The intro text says "Many of the first visible minorities to hold high public offices have been Black, including Michaëlle Jean..."  What office was Michaëlle Jean the first visible minority to hold? She is not the first visible minority to hold the position of Canadian Governor General; her direct predecessor, Adrienne Clarkson, is Chinese-Canadian. 71.7.236.19 (talk) 04:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not implying that she was the first vizmin GG. It's implying that she was one of the first. Bearcat (talk) 06:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: What high office was Michaëlle Jean the first visible minority to hold?

message: Could this article be rewritten or deleted? According to :Category:Black Canadian people, the label includes people of African descent, West Indies descent and African-Americans. The only commonality is a distant shared ancestry and a skin color. There isn't any similar racial grouping in :Category:Canadian people by ethnic or national origin for other groups. It is worth having separate articles for each ethnic heritage or, at least, have subsections within this article. 
It's a catch-all category based on race alone and it should ultimately be eliminated in favor of articles based on ethnic heritage. Liz Read! Talk! 18:32, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as the Canadian government (specifically Statistics Canada) continues to recognize "Black" as a visible minority group, then the answer is no. While it's true that the Black Canadian sub-groups have a distant shared ancestry, I don't necessarily view it that way, as a Canadian of West Indian descent. Whenever I meet other Black people in Canada, I don't suddenly wonder if they're of West Indian descent, African descent, or African American descent; I simply view them as a fellow Black Canadian and all of that other stuff is secondary. If you want this page deleted or rewritten, don't forget to do the same for the European Canadian and South Asian Canadian articles/categories, which are both in the category you made mention of. Blackjays1 (talk) 19:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Black Canadians]]? 

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message: Hi, while the statement "Black Canadians form the third-largest visible minority group in Canada, after South Asian and Chinese Canadians." is true by the definition of visible minority, since visible minority is commonly considered synonymous with non-Caucasian, should it be clarified that if aboriginal peoples are included, Black Canadians are in fact fourth-largest?
naturalnumber (talk) 04:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The definition is the definition. I don't see the need to further complicate things with a hypothetical statement. Blackjays1 (talk) 03:59, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: All I meant was maybe a clarification of the definition in the sentence, or even just including a link to the visible minority article for the sake of clarity.naturalnumber (talk) 01:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visible minority group, relative size question 

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message: The beginning of the History section asserts:
:one common element that unites all of these groups is that they are in Canada because they or their ancestors actively chose of their own free will to settle there
However, the subsection on First Black People in Canada refers to over 1,000 slaves brought by French before 1760. In addition, the subsection on African Americans during the American Revolution states:
:Many White American Loyalists brought their African-American slaves with them, numbering approximately 2,500 individuals.
Questions:
1. When were those slaves freed? The statement that slaves were brought to Canada by French and British whites before 1800 contradicts the earlier assertion that free will applies to "all of these groups".
2. Does 2,500 refer to the slaves, the loyalists, or combined total?
I suggest that the introductory paragraph of the History section be rewritten to summarize more accurately. Martindo (talk) 10:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slavery 

message: Hedy Fry is not a Black Canadian. Not everyone from Trinidad is black, and Hedy has made it clear that her ethnic origin is not black at all... something that you can even find in the first few sentences of her Wikipedia page: https://twitter.com/hedyfry/status/55464839086227456 
This isn't meant to undermine her accomplishments, but she should not have a place on this page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.59.125 (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hedy Fry's Inclusion 

message: Jean Alfred was a teacher and a hardline member of the Parti Québécois. Born in Ouanaminthe, Haïti, he was elected to the Assemblée nationale du Québec in 1976. I feel this should be mentionned somewhere ; he was the first black person to be elected in Québec history and was very appreciated. Information about him is unsurprisingly scarce in english, but here he is quite known as "the father of the Gatineau hospital".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56B:DE4D:C800:F847:1216:4CD1:759D (talk) 01:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jean Alfred 

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message: I don't think them calling themselves Caribbean-Canadian has anything to do with race, but simply their Caribbean heritage which is multi-racial. @Vaselineeeeeeee  Freee Contributor (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is it problematic to call Caribbean-Canadians, Carribbean-Canadians?