Talk:Timeline of post-classical history

message: How does one edit the article's title? I really think this should be called something like Medieval European Chronology. Or, it can just be expanded to be a worldwide survey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.140.2.102 (talk) 21:39, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Academically, medieval means European theres no reason to differentiate. Stbalbach 13:59, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Just use the "move" tab when you get consensus. Wloveral (talk) 22:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: This article has been kept following this AFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:06, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD debate link 

message: It makes little sense to place Oxford and Cambridge University at the same founding date, regardless of the ambiguity of Oxford's beginnings. How might we better place Oxford? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.147.225.32 (talk) 07:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxford and Cambridge 

message: There has been discussion as to the usefulness and arbitrariness of this article and its contents.  To help with the latter, I have added a column "significance".  This should be populated so as to try and generate a more objective view of the "importance" of any one event.  When this has been done, it will become clear which of the events here do not deserve a place.
I have also added events that occurred during this timeframe but outside of Europe, while adding things from Pears Cyclopaedia.  However, it seems that the Middle Ages refers only to Europe.  We should perhaps get rid of these entries.
Jameshfisher 01:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the significance column is very important. Otherwise, this article is nothing more than a repeat of the articles on the various centuries, e.g., "12th Century." I notice that, after two years, there are still many "insignificant" events.76.123.208.229 (talk) 17:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  adding and pruning of events 

message: I find this format too difficult to edit. Although the full dates of cited events (battles, births, deaths, papal bulls, and so on) are easily obtained, they are difficult to insert in the table format. This same format will also result in much white space in the article since the historical significance of many events will require careful consideration needing much time and thought (if not OR). May I suggest that this timeline be re-cast in the form of a simple list of dates, major events (with significance thereof), and references? Wloveral (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humble suggestion 

message: In the spirit of boldness I have added several entries to the 10th century.  This list has obviously been languishing for a while, but I think it could be fantastically useful and a truly great article (with some imagination).  The format needs work.  I would like to see the ability to include maps, illustrations, etc. though I lack the expertise to carry that out.  It would also be nice to have some sort of discussion to reach consensus on what should or should not be included, and what the scope of the list should be.  Making best effort to "blow the dust off" and get something going. Revcasy (talk) 14:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope and call for contribution 

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This article does not represent a worldwide view of the subject of the Middle Ages. The Middle Ages are one of three ages in History, not just European History.
--J. D. Redding 13:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. A worldwide view is more in order in my opinion. For example, the Mayan empire disappeared somewhere around 900 AD (news article) and that's not even listed. That is definitely of public interest, considering last year's mythology. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 16:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global timeline  

message: : I have tried to include more significant events regarding the Song, Mongol, Japan, the Middle East (other than the earlier period of Islam), and even the finding of Tenochtitlan during that period. I'll still feel as if I have some more work to do in mentioning significant people/events (South/South-East Asia, Specific Caliphates in History, Incas, Africa, etc.), but I've made improvements of the previous amount of events. I apologize for not listing the edits for the links for some of what I done on the pages, but hope it's good for this page.
LeftAire (talk) 00:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Modifications

message: As 1492 is usually the year selected for the Middle Ages, the last three events need not to be edited because of the events prior to 1492. (Portugal had began expanding into an Empire in 1415, Spain began in 1492, even though they had treatys involving Portugal in the 1470s regarding Azeroes and Canary Islands; Portugal began sailing for a route to encounter a Christian Kingdom to find 'Prester John' (among other reasons, such as trade with gold in Sub-saharan Africa and Slave Trade), made contact with Ethiopia in the 1480s, and thought PJ was in Ethiopia. Dias found the Cape of Good Hope in 1488, and when Columbus found the 'New World', Spain & Portugal would bicker about it until the Treaty of Tordesillas (and would continue well in the 16th century) and Da Gama found a route to India in 1498 which began European trade and later colonization in Asia. The Venetians were the superior maritime republic of the Middle Ages (and would later team up with the Ottoman Empire) and that loss would mark the beginning of modern warfare in Europe (the Italian Wars) and the end of the Venetian maritime dominance in Europe, as they were losing it to Spain and Portugal). LeftAire (talk) 18:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Do Not Edit Last 3 events for the 15th Century

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Timeline of the Middle Ages's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "books.google.com":
From Charlemagne: Hooper, Nicholas / Bennett, Matthew. The Cambridge illustrated atlas of warfare: the Middle Ages Cambridge University Press, 1996, Pg. 12–13 , 
From Carolingian Empire: Hooper, Nicholas / Bennett, Matthew. The Cambridge Illustrated Atlas of Warfare: the Middle Ages Cambridge University Press, 1996, pp. 12–13 , 
From Simeon I of Bulgaria: Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages, 500–1250, Cambridge Medieval Textbooks, Florin Curta, Cambridge University Press, 2006, ISBN 0521815398, pp. 221–222.
From Germany: Ian Kershaw.Stalinism and Nazism: dictatorships in comparison. Cambridge University Press, 1997, p.150 
From Christianity: Religion in Global Civil Society by Santa Barbara Mark Juergensmeyer Professor of Sociology and Director of the Global and International Studies Program University of California
From Battle of Nineveh (627): 
From Genghis Khan: 
From Personal union: Pál Engel: Realm of St. Stephen: A History of Medieval Hungary, 2005, p. 35-36
From Holy Roman Empire: Poets Laureate in the Holy Roman Empire: A Bio-bibliographical handbook, Volume 1 By John Flood, Google Books
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:02, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Timeline of the Middle Ages]] 

message: e.g. 1000-1099 is the eleventh century, not the tenth.  Sorry, I do not know how to fix.  Larry Siegel (talk) 04:32, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The centuries are labeled incorrectly

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a rough consensus that the "Middle Ages" is too Eurocentric for this global history article. No prejudice against splitting Europe-specific history into Timeline of the Middle Ages. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:05, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Timeline of the Middle Ages →  – There are two corresponding articles, Middle Ages and Post-classical history. This timeline with its global perspective corresponds to the second article (Post-classical history) because the Middle Ages article has a phocus on European history during the post-classical period. Borsoka (talk) 01:58, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: * thank you for your vote. How do you think we could syncronize the subjects of the following three articles: Middle Ages (Europe), Timeline of the Middle Ages (worldwide) and Post-classical history (worldwide)? For the time being we have a timeline named for the Middle Ages but its scope differs from the scope of the main article Middle Ages. Borsoka (talk) 05:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The common name per this n-gram shows that the proposed solution doesn't fit. Also please note that the post-classical history article contains "Although post-classical is synonymous with the Middle Ages of Western Europe..." Randy Kryn (talk) 13:51, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The two articles' first sentences make a clear distinction: Post-classical history covers world history, Middle Ages only European history during the same period. Borsoka (talk) 16:48, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 November 2022