Talk:Ingrown nail

message: Dr. Scholl's Ingrown Toenail Pain Reliever contains tanic acid which hardens skin.     — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericg33 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of ingrown toenail kits at drugstores 

message: "but in most cases the injection is the most painful experience of a persons life, second only to giving birth."
I wish to debate this comment. There is no evidence given that supports this view, and depends on the situation. I added a citation needed because this is a opinion and not supported by any fact. I just had this done to my toe a few days ago. Yes, the shot hurts but it's more like a bee sting than anything. Although it could hurt much more if you had a raging infection. 70.123.143.213 (talk) 04:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the remark. I had this done on Wednesday, had three needles because it was overly stubborn and didn't want to be anaesthetized, and it didn't hurt that much, just like you said: like a bee sting. Douglas 13:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Phenolisation

message: "Disadvantages: the procedure will fail in about 2 to 3 times out of one hundred."
This needs a citation. It's failed 3 of 3 times for me.
This is quite graphic I should say... Anyone agrees that another article without pictures should be created just as the article for gangrene? And add warnings before the article begins? --Starryboy 19:24, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's indeed rather morbid. JFW | T@lk 02:18, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd recommend against creating a duplicate article, because it will be harder to keep them in sync. I've tried creating a template at Template:PotentiallyDisturbingImage (feel free to edit it -- it's just a stub), and putting it at the top of this article. Does this help? --Arcadian 03:23, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That certainly is a nice idea, but I wonder why now not even a word of warning is on the article for gangrene... I'm gonna add that.--Starryboy 06:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: disadvantes

message: I believe that the causes section is plagiarized from this website: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/67549 ...or is it the other way around? Who knows.
75.67.202.152 (talk) 18:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: plagiarized?

message: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but various parts in this article seem too flippant and personal to me, in particular the line which reads "Wearing shoes/trainers which are too small, however fashionable or expensive they are, either in size, width..." - is the however fashionable or expensive really appropriate? I intepret this as quite a personal, potentially flippant remark. Could someone a little more qualified look into this, and if necessary clean up the in-appropriate parts?
:Hi there. It's not really flippant, although I can see how it might appear so. Nearly all ingrowing toe-nails are caused by the wearing of inappropriate footwear; most of the rest are caused by the nails being cut too short and then being subjected to minor trauma. I operate on perhaps a hundred of these nails a year, the vast majority of patients being aged between 15 and 25. Fashion is, I am afraid, a major causative factor.--Anthony.bradbury 22:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appropriate Voice? 

message: Just for the record, I do large numbers of these; they take perhaps five minutes to insert the local anaesthetic and wait for it to work, and perhaps two minutes to perform the procedure. Phenolisation to prevent regrowth of the edge of the nail takes a further three minutes. The use of a tourniquet causes excessive bleeding on its removal, and is wholly unnecessary. If any qualified person reads this, I urge you to dispense with the tourniquet; you will be delighted. So will your patient.--Anthony.bradbury 22:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wedge resection 

message: ahh... the allmighty wikipedia states that cutting a V does nothing.
Student Health Services @ University of Iowa seems to disagree with you.
http://uistudenthealth.com/question/default.asp?asgid=19&agid=4&id=565
:Ah, they are wrong. Toe nails take so long to grow that a nip here and clip there are fruitless except for their placebo value. Nothing you do will work if your toe nail is truly ingrown. See above conversation.
:: I had a ingrown toenail that i had for two years before finally having the edge cut out today (out of ignorance). It took this long because i learnt off someone to use a nailfile to thin the top of the nail, this does help, causing much less pressure on the edges. Whether the nail shinks inwards (like the V-cut) i could not prove (but that was how it was described to work). Also my doctor always puts one stitch in the toe to pull the skin back to the nail, is that bizarre?  HarmoniK 15:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Harmonik--I had three doctors hack and saw on an ingrown nail over a two year period--complete removal of nail, partial removal, and cutting out two wedges of swollen tissue--to no avail.  Then an old army nurse told me about thinning the center of the nail--I used a razor blade--and the problem was quickly solved.  The same treatment has worked, usually in 48 hours, every time a nail has threatened to ingrow.  The technique ought to be commented on in the main article.  Jm546 21:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add it, feel free to finetune it anyone. HarmoniK 15:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please take digital picture and upload it. Thanks tons. Hope it feels better.DocEss 16:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Simple logic, the article says that trimming the front edge of the nail straight across prevents ingrowth, yet calls cutting a "V" into the same edge does nothing. That doesn't wash. Either the front edge can't affect the sides, or it always does. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trimming it straight doesn't affect the tips, it just makes them lest prone to develop the splinters formed from curves, not their growth direction. A V doesn't affect either, as the base is what dictates the nail form.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.211.221.52 (talk) 22:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  V in Toenail 

message: Does anyone believe a section on the hitsory of ingrown toenails would be useful? Comments? Hey - do ya know what my brother's podiatrist said to me when I asked him how they treated ingrowns before anaesthetic? He said, "Whiskey and pliars." Yikes. DocEss 18:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I removed this comment because I cannot find a proper source. Moreover, I wonder if it is even relevant - it's almost trivial in nature, I think. Find a source and then we can put it back. "Ingrown toe nails are a problem of the West, and are virtually unknown in cultures that do not wear enclosed shoes." DocEss 17:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Problem of the West' phrase 

message: Could anyone please expand on the statement about unrelenting need to suffer pain and pressure in the If Left Untreated section?? I'd like to know more about this particular symptom.  Thanks. Rebel.crusader 22:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia really does do wonders, eh? I've been to this article before to see about my problem, but my anxiety and, frankly fear, was a tad too overwhelming. A few bathroom surgeries left me hopeful, but those damned nails keep growing in - I've had two or three recurrences since I first noticed this ache in August (2005). The psychological part of this is (I think) in some cases perhaps comparable to the shame involved with cancer. Sometimes the toe doesn't hurt at all, at other times it's... well frankly hellish. I am trying to find a good orthopedian (or whatever you called'em), but in my state there aren't likely to be any. I'll find someone, though, and I'll tell them just what I feel of the V-clip. What I'd like to ask, since I'm here, is how long most of you guys (who have experienced it) have gone with your toes in this sorry state? I'd like to know just how I'm positioned, having experienced this for about half a year, maybe more. 81.93.102.185 14:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Guys' will wait for ever; women are smart enough to get it fixed when it hurts.  Anyway, there is no hope of auto-recovery. Go to the podiatrist and have a partial matrixectomy completed. Or, you can just eat painkillers and soak your foot in the sink, playing with it regularly until in it gets so badly infected that the doctors hack off your toe/foot/leg. Maybe they should just cut off your head and be done with it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.59.9.52 (talk) 20:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hell, sounds like a feminist extremist has a serious bug up their ass.--Metalhead94 (talk) 23:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Damn feminazi. Go away.  OMGWTFBBQ  BLAH  00:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Explain please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.251.55 (talk) 19:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrelenting need for pain and pressure 

message: I see that this phrase is used twice in this page.  Despite involvements with a variety of sports, I haven't heard this phrase before.  When I Googled it the only hits that came back on the exact phrase (surrounded with quotes) were this page and someone copying this page's content.
I suggest that this phrase either be removed, cited, explained, or linked.  Thoughts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.17.112.14 (talk) 05:52, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I should think common sense would inform you that the meaning "going throught the end of your shoes" is self-evident. But just for you......it means in this idiom: stopping too quickly and having the foot slide forcefully toward the end of the toebox of the shoe, thereby either jamming the toenial (usually the big toe) into the end of the shoe and setting up dreaded swelling & nail defromaties or else squishing the tender margin flesh into the nail and setting up inflammation. In any event, I can assure you from personal experience that this type of injury easily creates ingrowns, googlywoogly notwithstanding.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.9.52 (talk) 18:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Going through the end of your shoes"

message: I think it should be added, that another possible cause of an ingrown toenail, is from trying to stablize yourself on a thrill ride by pushing the front of your foot into the car. I hope I'm explaining it right, if you feel you're going side to side too much there's a tendancy, to want to keep upright by using your foot. I want to make sure people know not to do this. I now have a reccuring ingrown toenail, cause I tried to do that on a roller coaster, and ended up hitting my toenail on the side causing a bruise. I think it must've messed up my nailbed, causing the ingrown toenail. Violet yoshi (talk) 00:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You've "gone through the end of your shoes," ya poor bastard. If you've got an ingrown toenial, make an appointment to go to a podiatrist as soon as you stop reading this paragraph. Your problem will not fix itself. Godspeed, little buddy.--137.186.251.55 (talk) 20:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ingrown toenails usually resolve without treatment. Must generally be a severe case to not. --Saerain (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  An addition to Causes 

message: Can't someone PLEASE put a HIDE option on this picture?? I can't read the article!! --Nathanael Bar-Aur L. (talk) 01:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey - horrid pictures are required in this article because they induce the afflicted to go to podiatrists. Just read all the commentary above --- people just don't get it! Pictures say a thousand words, ya?--137.186.251.55 (talk) 20:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is horrible 

message: The section on treatments doesn't seem to mention anything on the use of silver nitrate to remove hypergranulation tissue. Since I don't really know how this works and why it's used, perhaps someone medically educated could add this. Is this technique not used in treatments in the US, perhaps? It's the usual treatment here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hail True Body (talk • contribs) 23:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver Nitrate 

message: If cutting a 'v' does nothing, how come rounding the end is apparently negative and cutting the end straight across is positive? Obviously doing something to the end of the nail does something. I'd like to know what mechanisms are behind that.. usually cutting into dead tissue shouldn't change anything.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: V-cuts do nothing except trick the victim into thinking he's done something useful. The nail is not alive and cutting it longitudinally won't alter the growth of the remaing part. Please review above for commentary regarding 'rounding off the nails' --- the culprit is the little sharp corner that certainly remains (i.e. unavoidably remains) where the nail attaches to the nail plate at the margin, which is below where you can see.--137.186.251.55 (talk) 18:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How does that work? 

message: Am I missing something or are these two sections essentially describing the same procedure? If so, should they be merged? Woood (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are missing something and the description should not be merged. They are not the same procedure, though one procedures uses the other procedure. Any nail can be cut back deeply along the margin in an attempt to relieve pressure; this cut is usually wedge-shaped and is called a wedge resection, which incidentally is an avuslion technique. Phenolisation is a word used to describe the ablation (i.e., destruction) of tissue, in this case the germinal matrix --- the matrix is where the body creates new nail; phenol (carbolic acid) is used to permananetly kill cells that create new nail. In the phenolisation ablation procedure, it is nearly always necessaary to perform a wedge resection to avulse the nail out of the way so that the phenol can be properly applied to the matrix. The purpose of both procedures is to relieve the pressure and irritation caused by mal-growth of the perioncyhium or by injury. With resection the offending nail usually grows back and re-offends; with phenol avulsion, it does not grow back and so cannot re-offend.--137.186.138.170 (talk) 19:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phenolisation and Wedge Resection 

message: The If Left Untreated section is just too extreme.  It should be pointed out that some ingrown nails simply heal themselves.  I've noticed that medical articles and books tend to describe the worst-case scenarios, and you end up with a text which gives a lopsided view, scares the reader, and essentially imparts negative suggestions to the reader that his condition will get worse (and the power of suggestion has been shown to be considerable in the area of health).  Someone needs to tone down the article a little.--Caleb Murdock (talk) 07:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "If Left Untreated" section 

message: Hey, I read the article with some interest, as I'm a toe amputee who developed a bone infection from an improperly treated ingrown toenail. Since I lost my toe, I've met far too many people who have gone through experiences similar to mine: they tried to treat their ingrown toenail at home, ended up spreading the infection, often times causing a bad bone infection, and ended up going through painful surgery and lost their toes. I've done a lot of research on the topic, started a support group for toe amputees, and have discovered that this happens a lot more than people realize.
Because of that, I really think a more severe warning should be placed at the end of the "Home Care" section. There was a slight warning there, suggesting that 'bathroom surgery' is inappropriate, but I just don't think that's strong enough. People don't tend to think of ingrown toenails as very serious health problems, but all too often, when people don't take it seriously it can lead to painful surgery, years of infection, and even amputation. I think that people deserve to know the risks when they're looking into what they can do at home to treat an ingrown toenail. I'm all for the information that's up there about soaking their toes, but I think they also need to know that if they start digging into their toes, they're taking very serious risks.
I tried to write a little blurb about the risks, but I'm just not feeling very capable tonight in the writing department. Anybody else have any ideas how to properly convey the risks in a professional manner? I feel that there's an opportunity here to prevent someone else from making similar mistakes and causing themselves a lot of pain, so if we can do something to help, I'd like to do what I can.
Thanks!
-- Heather Lawver, 09-17-08, 1:17AM ET
:Sorry to hear that. A toe amputation, specially assuming it's the big toe, can lead to stability problems and limps. 
It seems that your section got blurred out. I will write a referenced warning as soon as a I can. OR! anyone that can, please do. 205.211.221.52 (talk) 23:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added medical warning - not sure I wrote it right 

message: Would it be possible to give a more universal indication of scale? The photo shows a section of a removed nail next to a coin which I think is a US coin.  Not being from the States, I have no idea how big the coin is.  Something like a match head might be better, so if anyone has an ingrowing toenail wedge they want to donate for a photo shoot? (grin) Seriously though, an expanded caption would be helpful for those outside the US. StephenBuxton (talk) 10:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I had a look on the jpeg upload page and it gives the coin size.  I've added the size to the caption; this is meant as a short term solution until someone gives us a picture with a universally recognisable scale (e.g. next to a ruler). StephenBuxton (talk) 16:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture in Wedge resection 

message: Could someone please define Hypergranulation in the article Granuloma?  The word hypergranulation links to that article, but there is no definition there for it.  Thanks. Stephen! Coming... 16:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this is because hypergranulation referes to granulation tissue, not granuloma. The first is a type of tissue formed after a wound to be later replaced by a series of tissues and finally by skin. It's sensitive and granulated. Granuloma is, on the other side, a cluster of macrophages. 
Any opinion? If there is no contrary belief, then I will do the changes in about 3 days from now. If I remember to do. 205.211.221.52 (talk) 22:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypergranulation definition needed 

message: Is it possible to have an ingrown nail without all the blood at the side of the toe?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.118.164 (talk) 20:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Blood

message: Worth having a paragraph on?
Sioraf (talk) 22:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Recovery After

message: The thoroughness of this article is rather amazing. 68.109.156.229 (talk) 05:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Wow

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Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reviews

message: Hi there. I have also had a problem with an ingrown nail. I had a surgery or rather the doctor removed that side of my toe nail which caused the problem (without removing the whole nail or its root). It did not help for long. After a couple of months it re-infected. So I had to start treating it again with creams and ointments and what not. It did not help. That happened in two different countries. Finally, in a third country, Denmark, the GP sent me to a feet therpist (not a doctor, nor even a nurse, mind you). And behold! The therapist did what at least 4 other doctors in two other countries couldn't. Namely she cured me and it has been more than a year now without any problems except for slight pain when wearing tight shoes for longer periods (also maybe when nervous or sensitive for some other reason although it sounds strange and unscientific).
Anyways. Now I believe that there are zillions of doctors who don't have the slightest idea about this ingenuius 'cure' and even more frustrated patients. That is why i would like to share my experience in wikipedia but I am so impatient with all the explanations about how to add my little text to the article about ingrown nails. Please anyone help! I have a couple of photos showing my healing toe with the bracket on it. Because it was a bracket and a principle similar to the principle by which teeth brackets work that cured my nail and toe. Still it should be applied by a specialist and glued with a special glue treated with some kind of a lamp to make it dry.
Thanks in advance!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myllion (talk • contribs) 20:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just put your proposed text, along with your source here and someone will add it to the article if it's appropriate. --Yankees76 Talk 20:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  a nail "bracket" (15/11/2011) posted by Myllion 

message: In the section 'conservative treatment' it mentions 'the use of dental floss'. Is this vandalism, or is it true?
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thread_title:  Dental floss? 

message: This drawn graphic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Onychocryptosisdiagram.png
shown that an ingrown toenail occurs at the growing edge of the toenail. This possibility is not mentioned in the text, which makes the impression to me, that this virtually impossible. If I am right then the drawing is wrong and better be replaced by one that shows what you already can see on the photos: the ingrowth of the nail happens on one or both of the sides, but not at the front edge.
62.92.48.66 (talk) 14:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The drawn graphic is inconsistent with what is described in the text and shown on the photos