Talk:National parks of England and Wales

message: I think the 'List of national parks' should be promoted higher up the page, perhaps as the second section of the article. I just surfed onto this page, and was expecting to see the list more prominently (if only so I could carry on surfing) -- Nojer2 23:02, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I agree. I think that visually, the list is not the ideal thing to have in the main body of the article. Anyway, surely the contents box points you to it anyway? Naturenet 08:52, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it depends whether someone expects to use this page as a proper article, or as a linking list to hop to other national parks. My expectation was that it would have a prominent list with links to the other national parks. Surely there's not much point going into detail about the history of national parks, before you've even mentioned which places are national parks. Anyway I can see that there's also been considerable effort to develope this as an article about National Parks in general, and I can see what you mean about the list being a bit too visually imposing for the top of the article, what with all those additional stats. -- Nojer2 11:32, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added an internal link to National parks of England and Wales#List of national parks at the end of the first sentence of the second paragraph of the lead, which mentions how many there are.  Given that this is not too far above the TOC anyway, the link may be superfluous - does anyone have strong views? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:02, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: List of national parks

message: I note that the 'Untamed and Dangerous?' subhead has changed to 'Wilderness Areas' . I think the point is that these areas are not wilderness areas, and haven't been since prehistoric times. I preferred the previous heading, which emphasised the popular misconception about wild British landscapes. Any views? Naturenet 13:59, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Untamed countryside?, which is closer to the quoted text (who from, by the way?) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:12, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I like your subhead much better - and I've found a quote! Naturenet 11:25, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilderness Areas subhead 

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=== National parks of England and Wales ===
This was the WP:UKCOTW last week.  I'm thinking of nominating it in WP:FAC later this week, so I'd be grateful for any comments (particularly from non-UK people, in case something is missing). -- ALoan (Talk) 20:15, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer review

message: This was the WP:UKCOTW last week.  I'm thinking of nominating it in WP:FAC later this week, so I'd be grateful for any comments (particularly from non-UK people, in case something is missing). -- ALoan (Talk) 20:15, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[National parks of England and Wales]] 

message: I've started looking at this page as I've been editing Exmoor trying to get it up to GA & was looking for ideas. I'm amazed that this is still a FA with no inline citations to verify the information given, which may not have been required when it became an FA in 2004 but is now. The list of references given is really External links as it's not clear which bit of information comes from which source. I'm happy to do some of the work on improving this if others are willing to help - otherwise would it be best to put it up for Wikipedia:Featured article review on the grounds that it fails 1(c) of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria which says "that claims are verifiable against reliable sources and accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge. Claims are supported with specific evidence and external citations; this involves the provision of a "References" section in which sources are set out, complemented by inline citations where appropriate." Putting it up for FAR may get a wider audience & more people to work on it.
Also can anyone advise on the "correct" National Parks Template I see this was discussed a year ago but has it moved on? - on Exmoor we have  but on South Downs I see  wouldn't it be best to be consistent? I've also noticed that the title bar in the template that is on Exmoor & most of the others points to National park  rather than National parks of England and Wales - is this deliberate?— Rod talk 21:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for inline citations & various templates 

message: Would it be worth having a section in the infoboxes/geoboxes of each of the UK National Parks for a National Park Authority logo? Such as Cornwall does for the Cornwall Council logo? Again, these can probably be obtained as low-res images from various park authority/governmental websites and used as within the fair use policy (WP:RAT). Zangar (talk) 15:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infoboxes 

message: Hi, there is something wrong with the National Parks area figures in km - a wrong algorithm is being used. One mile equals 1,6km. Please double check these figures and correct. Best regards, KL  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krzylig (talk • contribs) 22:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you got a source for the figures? Keith D (talk) 01:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total Square Miles 

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message: I've added a couple of lines at this point since, though it's mentioned further down in the article it's appropriate to recognise in the lede that the set up for the Broads National Park is different. Anyone just reading the start of the article would go off with an incorrect understanding.  
On an unconnected note the current text states that 'recreation and tourism bring visitors and funds into the parks, to sustain their conservation efforts and support the local population through jobs and businesses'. The bit about sustaining their conservation efforts gives me cause for concern because for the most part, it is not funds from visitors that goes towards conservation work but rather it is grants direct from government and from other public and quasi-public funds that do so, though clearly the work of the NT and others is supported by visitor donations but that's true across the piece and not just in NPs. Could do with re-crafting, and referencing. cheers Geopersona (talk) 16:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention of Broads in the lede 

message: In common with other pages dealing with NPs in the UK, the map is out of date and does not reflect the extensions to the Lakes and Dales in recent years. In any case the boundaries of both Snowdonia and the Brecon Beacons are incorrect. Anybody able to fix this?  thanks Geopersona (talk) 05:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New map please 

message: Per this discussion at FFA, noting the merge discussion here. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  17:42, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saving merge discussion