Talk:Gavin Esler

message: As the article already lists his books in the body of the article, I rather think duplicating that which is already in the article is silly.     Is there any actual need to name books twice?   We do not even give a "full bibliography" for many authors - and I regret that Esler is not quite the world's most major author. Collect (talk) 13:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's quite commmon to have a separate bibliography section in a biography; and much of the information there (ISBNs, for example) is not duplicated. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Common?  Oh?   If we need ISBNs then we can add them to the section which already names each and every book.  And remove the separate Bibliography.  If we do not need the internal full and complete list in the article, then we ought to delete it from the article.   One or the other - just as we do not have "external links" and "see also" duplicate material already in a quite short article. Collect (talk) 15:38, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think ISBNs belong in the text. And I'd agree that a list is better presented as a list. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a quote which is presented as being from a New Statesman review of Esler's book Angry Americans. The quote is that the book is a vivid portrait of America in the 1990's. Could this have been written by Albert Scardino in the New Statesman; 24 October 1997, Volume 126, Issue 4357, page 46? Can anyone with access to their archives check? Drchriswilliams (talk) 20:38, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography section 

message: How would it be best to add some information on Esler's role in highlighting the miscarriage of the Guildford Four and Maguire Seven? 
Would it be best here, on his page, or on the Guildford_Four_and_Maguire_Seven specific page?
The sources I have found so far:
* 1989 Guardian Article about "Trail and Error" references Esler as being one of the lone voices highlighting the miscarriage
* Clip from the original broadcast of "Spotlight" where the case is examined by Esler (more clips from the episode are available at the URL Broadcast on Tue 26 Feb 1980, 22:15, BBC One Northern Ireland.
* "Gavin Esler reported on the case for the BBC's Northern Ireland programme, Spotlight, and also contributed a piece to the New Statesman (21 March 1980)." On page 9. I have been unable to find the original New Statesman article.
Would adding a line to the 'Career' section  about his time at Spotlight (the Northern Ireland program) and mentioning the his role in highlighting the case with be appropriate?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clifford Smithe (talk • contribs) 09:51, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Esler's Role in Guildford Four and Maguire Seven 

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