Talk:Tsonga language

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I find the section that describes borrowed words with clicks from Zulu and Ndebele confusing. Is it correct to infer that all clicks in such words are merged into a single click phoneme? If so, which one? --babbage 17:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clicks section unclear 

message: I tried to fix the table so that the data went into it neatly; however, if I have inadvertently changed any of it so that it now shows misinformation, please correct it ASAP. 4.243.221.190 02:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronouns table

message: The total speakers number is inconsistent with the text of the article. Lavateraguy 18:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistency

message: The prefix "Xi", which sounds "sh" in many South African languages comes from the Portuguese phonetic table but it's also important to note how it changes within various contents depending on the vowel before it. For instance, check the English translation of the word "shampoo" into Portuguese and you will find something like "xampu". If Tsonga had to borrow the word Shampoo, how would you spell it? To me the Portuguese version sounds closer to Xitsonga "Xampu". We also call wine "vhinyo" and the Portuguese version is "vino" Spanish "vinho". We borrow words in order to make a language grow. So, Chisonga, Chitsonga, Xitsonga, Gitonga, Tsonga are all correct, but officially we use Xitsonga in South Africa. Nobody is confusing anybody unless you talk Tsonga in the most biased manner.  The most influential language to Xitsonga is Portuguese and I'll suggest we drive our discussion towards that in order to find out why words are spelt the way they are in Tsonga. Thanks for the comment below, but you can only discuss language formations if you know your history (19 June 2013).
I dont think Vongani Leonard Nkwinika's quote should be part of the Xitsonga Article. I think it should be moved to this talk page. --Thuvack | talk 16:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I wonder 

message: If you are a native speaker of Tsonga then you can help translate this template into your own language:
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--Amazonien (talk) 21:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tsonga language template

message: Is this article saying Tsonga is a conlang? Surely it's a natural language. I would like to see some sources for the first paragraph.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smashhoof2 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsonga language - created? 

message: "The grammar is generally typical of Bantu languages with a subject–verb–object order. The structure changes to subject—object—verb when addressing another person" – that last part is a very ambiguous. From the examples, it looks like it should be rewritten to: "The structure changes to subject—object—verb when the subject is not in the first person." (although does it only happen with pronouns?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unhammer (talk • contribs) 14:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  unclear about SOV word order 

message: Are you sure that Tsonga /r/ is realised as a trill? User: Kbb2 (you know, many linguistic articles don't properly describe the exact realisation of a rhotic just for convenience's sake) -PerkeleenHullu (talk) 15:43, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's something else then feel free to change the label. I'm not a fan of using the word "rhotic", it can mean so many things that it's almost meaningless. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 13:50, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ea, I ken not tbh: I'm not an expert on Tsonga or what... I just wanted to be sure -PerkeleenHullu (talk) 16:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is a trill. I have the source I used to create the phonology chart. Fdom5997 (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rhotic/Trill? 

message: In one place in the article it says "What is commonly referred to as "Shangana/Changana" is not a recognized language in South Africa and is not a dialect that falls within the Xitsonga language group, as its distinctiveness stems mainly from the use of the Nguni language and grammar", but in another it refers to Changana as a dialect. Moreover, Xichangana redirects to the Tsonga page. How can it be that it doesn't fall under the Xitsonga group? wleightond 21:29, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of Changana 

message: The article lists Tonga as being a under Tsonga, being a speaker of both since a child, I think this not accurate. Even though they share some words for they are both bantu, the languages are not inteligeble. They're not written, nor spoken in the same way by any means. 
This is not to say the article is wrong in this part, but I'd like if possible for someone to cite a credible source of this, then perhaps I'd be convinced.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dareenzo (talk • contribs) 17:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tonga under Tsonga? 

message: Tsonga 105.245.0.151 (talk) 18:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  You know that i can't speak Tsonga so already i lost this game