Talk:Pat Benatar

message: I don't know if that business is a valid explanation. I worked as a bank teller and we were required to have all bills face the same way and none of us were slow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.50.45.239 (talk) 04:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: All the Bills Up

message: There should be note of the controversy surrounding her fairly uncontroversial song "Hell is for Children". Mike H 03:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
:Indeed this is a significant factor in PB's life and career and certainly needs to be mentioned. It's my understanding she's donated significant proceeds from that song to abused children's causes. -Mike H I hope you don't mind my moving your comment to a new header here. AaronzDad (talk) 23:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hell Is For Children 

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:12, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: She isn't even gay, so how can she be a gay icon? That is totally out of question. I am removing this category unless you give me sufficient reasoning or evidence not to do so. Эйрон Кинни 21:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The article doesn't say the person himself/herself needs to be gay, only be "a celebrity with wide-spread fans from the LGBT community". (Entheta 00:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Just incredible that there's so much homophobia on Wikipedia.  Is this an encyclopedia or YouTube?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.209.26 (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: Someone should add in the other band members and the fact that there were no videos filmed for some of her most popular singles.
:Good idea. I'll add in a bit about the band. Ariochiv 19:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, one honest-to-goodness single was missing from the listings, "Christmas in America". I added that one in. It was available in 2001 as a CD single and made the sales chart, but not the main Hot 100. (It did get to #22 on the Adult Contemporary chart, which might be worth a footnote, because it's a chart with which you normally don't associate Pat Benatar.)  I'll do some checking on some of the others. Some of them may have been issued to radio as promos; I know "Temporary Heroes" was because I have that one on a promo 12-inch single. I'll do some more work on this. Cheemo 17:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggestions 

message: I'm watching American Chopper last night and see a new intro for the program. Is that Pat Benatar?!?!? It sure looks like her. And I swear I heard hear name mentioned, but I was in the kitchen and can't be sure. William (Bill) Bean 15:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Chopper (The Tuttle Family) 

message: I guess this pronunciation given is wrong. Andrzejewski is NOT pronounced "AN-dree-esk-ee" but rather "AN-jay-evs-kee". "Andrzej" (russian: Andrej, greek: Andreas, english: Andrew, french: André) is pronounced "An-jay" in Polish. -andy 84.149.105.215 09:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of how the name "is pronouced," Pat's name is pronounced "AN-dray-es-kee."  I know this because I asked her and recorded the answer.  SHE pronounces HER name "AN-dray-es-kee."  If you want to pronounce the word differently, that's your prerogative...but I think the woman knows her own name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.209.26 (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of birth name 

message: Just an FYI~  Pat's first album was with a band named:  Coxins Army.  She is sitting on top of a piano in a white dress, on the cover.  Don't let the media full you, the album is out there. My mom had a copy, as well as the rest of the family. My brother was the keyboardist for her.  After 50.000 copies, she had the album pulled.  She wanted to be knowen only as a Rocker.  Just thought you all might want the facts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toni darlene (talk • contribs) 19:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, there is info on her IMDB page about this. It was a "cabaret" band in Richmond, Virginia. Someone should check out the IMDB page, verify the information and incorporate it here. Also, someone should get me a beer. 99.140.171.185 (talk) 10:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coxon's Army 

message: I'm nearly positive Pat had a relationship with drummer Myron Grombacher between her two marriages. Needs to be verified, though. 99.140.171.185 (talk) 10:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody cares. 68.195.119.124 (talk) 22:31, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Myron Grombacher 

message: "In 2007-2008, Pat Benatar single "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" was put into the mix of songs in Guitar Hero 3, in the first tier of songs, with a specialized singer, just for her song, being that the default singer is male."
Actually there's a lot of songs in the game with the female singer model, so it's not just for her song at all, I'll remove that bit. 88.97.35.32 (talk) 14:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Hero 

message: "I received my vinyl LP of 'Best Shots' for Christmas 1985 - 'Wide Awake in Dreamland' I bought around 1986/ 1987 when it was released so some checking needs to be done on the release dates I believe. The cover of my LP differs from that shown on wiki however. AH from the UK."  from 86.112.240.180
Wide Awake in Dreamland was released in the fall of 1988. Best Shots was released later (This is obvious since ther are tracks from Dreamland (As well as Seven the Hard Way which was released in 1985) on Best Shots. It is impossible that you received 'Best Shots' for Christmas in 1985. You probably recieved Seven the Hard Way. - RJW
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.201.180.137 (talk) 16:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  possible errors in article 

message: I saw the Neil and Pat band tonight, Sat. July 23rd in Indiana. I was amazed when after the third song, Neil stepped up to the mic, did that Hitler salute and said " sieg heil". not everyone heard it. When he did it I looked at the audience behind me, (I was in front). Some in the audience did the salute and said sieg heil back. This led to Neil chuckling and saying "Its great to be back in the Midwest.
What I want to know is.....
Does Neil think the almost all white audience are such trash that he could make fun of us by pointing out how backward thinking we are, like stupid Nazis?
or
Is Neil actually a neo-nazi? Bold text  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.111.98 (talk) 04:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You probably shouldn't take everything you see in life so seriously. Doubtful that Neil is trying to start another master race. 68.195.119.124 (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neil a Nazi? 

message: Should he have his own Wikipedia page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.132.18 (talk) 08:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neil Giraldo 

message: Band section:   "Neil "Spyder" Giraldo (incorrectly spelled as "Giraldo" in early liner notes/credits)"
I don't understand.  If it was incorrectly spelled as "Giraldo", what is the correct spelling?   Surely it isn't "Giraldo", unless there's something happening in the Twilight Zone.  Or unless "Spyder" that was incorrectly spelled as "Giraldo".  SMH  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:AF2A:1A99:B1E7:4702:E56C:A3F6 (talk) 05:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's Giraldo, not Giraldo.  Huh? 

message: This bit doesn’t make sense (to me)
At 19 [in 1972], after one year at Stony Brook, she dropped out ...
[in 1972? or after] Pat Benatar worked as a bank teller...
[then, next para, article says]
In 1971, Benatar quit her job to pursue a singing career...
So, it might be that she quit her job in 1971, then went to Stony Brook, but that’s not how it reads. Perhaps she was 17 when went to Stony Brook, or was born in 1951?
120.16.124.185 (talk) 20:59, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1971? 

message: It says Benatar also does punk rock and heavy metal, but I can't find anything within the article that backs up those two genres. The other three (Rock, hard rock, and pop rock) are fine as she has and does embrace those. I am gonna remove punk rock and heavy metal while we await a consensus. Moline1 (talk) 01:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call. Unless a source offers some supporting evidence, I wouldn't really put either of those genres on her. A quick google didn't really dig any corroborating evidence up, either. -- spazure (contribs) 04:22, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Not sure if those two genres were the result of unsourced changes, or if they did have sources but forgot to put them in. I had also previously removed those two genres and readded back pop rock (which had been removed for whatever reason) when I first noticed them. They were gone for a little bit, before being readded, which prompted this discussion. Also, browsing through all her albums doesn't yield those two genres either.  Moline1 (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk rock and heavy metal genres 

message: I think this biography could use some more emphasis on the relationship between MTV and Benatar. "You Better Run" was likely the second song ever played on MTV, though some sources say otherwise. In a rare bit of commercialism, Benatar helped promote MTV by agreeing to appear in a television advertisement, saying "I want my MTV", joining Mick Jagger, Pete Townshend, Adam Ant, Stevie Nicks and others who also said this line. (MTV was unsuccessful until this ad campaign aired. See Sellebrity: My Angling and Tangling With Famous People and also What's the Big Idea?: How to Win with Outrageous Ideas (that Sell!).) 
Before MTV, Benatar's musical image was often sexed up beyond her control, but when she realized the power of the video format, she regained control of her image and nailed it down in 1983 with "Love Is a Battlefield". In 1987 she said about Cyndi Lauper and Madonna: "The new girls talk about how they don't let anybody manipulate them and they can't understand why some of us did it. It makes me smile because I think, well, that's great to walk in after we did all the fucking dirty work. I mean we were there when people were still slapping you on the ass."
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Let's put in more stuff about the MTV connection. Binksternet (talk) 01:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benatar and MTV