Category talk:African-American musicians

message: I wonder at the appropriateness of this category inheriting directly from :Category:American musicians. Shouldn't there be a :Category:American musicians by ethnicity in between? Otherwise the main effect would seem to be to purge all black people from :Category:American musicians. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Category inheritance

message: I would like to subcategorize the African American musicians both by genre and by instrument.  These new subcategories would be part of the African American musician heirarchy, and the articles for the individual musicians would each appear in one or more subcategories of the genre and instrument categorization, rather than in the African American musician category.  The subcategories, (e.g. :Category:African American trumpet players), would also appear as a related categorization in the appropriate American instrumentalist category, but would not be a heirarchical subcategory of the American instrumentalist category (it's not practical or of interest to users to categorize every American instrumentalist by ethnicity).  Therefore an African American trumpet player, Louis Armstrong, for example, would appear in both :Category:American trumpet players and :Category:African American trumpet players. 
Motivation for this recategorization are:
*With so many individual African American musicians in this category, the subcategories that already exist tend to 'get lost'.
*I believe that the new subcategories would be of interest to users.
*This will parallel the subcategorization for :Category:American musicians.
*The African American musicians category is currently not always being consistently used; some African American musicians are not listed here, but listed under genre, or instrument by nationality, only.
I intend to begin work on this gradually.  If concerns are raised and there seems to be a consensus not to subcategorize in this way, I will be glad to help put things back the way they were before.
Respectfully, LiniShu 03:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd rather see ethnicity and instrument kept separate. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Subcategorization Proposal

message: There are over a thousand entries in this category, so perhaps it's time to think about splitting it into smaller subcats. Perhaps instead of an all-inclusive "musicians" category, we could split it based on music style, e.g., African American rap musicians, African American blues musicians, African American jazz musicians, and so forth? Obviously, some artists would fall into more than one subcat, but that should not be a problem. — Loadmaster 16:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yes, the Wikipedia:Categorization/Gender, race and sexuality article provides good reasons not to subcategorize. So at this point I'm neutral on the issue (see the discussion above for similar thoughts). But this is a large category nonetheless. — Loadmaster 16:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subcategorization Proposal (2) 

message: [someone should correct this article which currently reads that Kenny is and isn't African American.]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B054:28FF:3599:4639:3A4:9224 (talk) 01:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: facts 172.88.235.179 (talk) 06:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Kenny Burrell