Talk:Bruce Bowen

message: I believe he works for ESPN TV now, but I'm not sure as to his position or anything.  Perhaps an avid viewer could mention it with some more knowledge. 64.148.241.133 (talk) 06:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current career 

message: This is my first GA review, so don't "bite my head off" if I get some things wrong, cheers. Here it goes:
* Quick-failed Review Article passes the initial quick-fail criteria, as there aren't any clean-up tags; the article hasn't been part of any edit wars and both images are under the correct licenses and have passed their repective FlickR Reviews on the Wikipedia Commons. But I'd like to address a slight concern over the small amount of references used in the article, but since the article is small and this isn't really a FA nomination so I'll forgive you for that.
Now let's get onto the GA criteria:
*It is well written?
:*the prose is clear and the grammar is correct
:: The article is reasonably good, although it feels slightly repatative at times, especially in the "Getting Settled" section. There is also a small sentence that feels a little "magazine-y" for me, that being "Bowen bounced around in various teams" (Early Struggles) - A term used perhaps on "Basketball only" websites but this is Wikipedia and articles have to be written in a more formal manner for those (like me) who aren;t too fimilar with Basketball and prefer to have their "hands held" through the article, so to speak.
:*it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation
:: Passed easily. The sections are well space out, in terms of Bowen's timeline: Not too small so it would have a silly amount of headings and not too little so the reader can't find what they're looking for within the article.
*It is factually accurate and verifiable
:*provides references to sources used;
:: Passed. References used are in their respective section at the bottom of the article. Just one small thing, "his father took drugs and even sold the family TV to feed his habit" do you happen to have a reference for this?
:*cites reliable sources for quotations and for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, preferably using inline citations for longer articles
:: Passed. All the sources used look reliable, same thing again with his Dad taking drugs and selling the TV!
:contains no original research.
:: Passed. No OR that I can see!
*It is broad in its coverage
:*addresses the major aspects of the topic
::  Passed.
:*stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary details
::  Passed. The article stays right "on track", even in the family section which can lead to some unnessesary details in some cases.
*It is neutral
::  Passed - Not a POV in sight!
*It is stable
::  Passed - As I said before, no edits wars in the article's recent history.
*Any images it contains are appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status. Fair use images must meet the criteria for fair use images and be labeled accordingly.
::  Passed - Both images are completely legal on Wikipedia, with both being licensed under the correct CC licenses and passed their FlickR Commons reviews, as I said before.
;Comments
All Green accross the board, although I will put this article on Hold until these two little bits are fixed:
*Find a reference to his Dad selling the TV to feed his drug habbit.
*Try and re-word the "Bowen bounced around..." sentence.
Other then those it should pass my GA review. If your planning to take this article to FA, can I suggest running it through a Peer Review first and also try and wait until the end of his playing career to give the article more stability and also so you can expand on several sections. Either way, you've made a good attempt at this article and it hasn't been unseen by me. --Phill talk Edits 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I hope I don't screw up the solid work Chensiyuan and Onomatopoeia have done, but I've made a pass at addressing the two hold bullets.  The part about his dad would appear to be supported by the cite from the following sentence, but it seems to refer to his mother as the one that sold the TV and did drugs.  Also I simply replaced the bounced term - seemed clear to me, but your point about it being an idiom is valid. Kuru talk 00:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you both for reviewing this article and helping improve it. It seems Kuru has appropriately addressed the two bullet points? Chensiyuan 01:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, I've passed the article now. Thanks for seeing to those small problems with the article. --Phill talk Edits 06:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: I'm very astonished to see that there is no "controversy" section in this article.  As an NBA fan I certainly have my partisan leanings.  While I realize there has never been any "official" action taken by the NBA against Bowen for his questionable defensive techniques, there exist a plethora of videos and incidents cited by other players showing questionable defense.  At the very least, if he is not throwing his foot down under other players' feet while they land with the intention of spraining their ankle, it is something he does nonetheless.  As such, it could and should at the very least be mentioned as problematic towards other NBA players.  In my mind, this is similar to the Carlos Mencia article on Wikipedia.  He has not been accused of any sort of plagiarism, yet the overwhelming amount of evidence purporting it is worth mentioning.  In the meantime, this article may as well have been written by David Stern.  If that's not biased and censored, and I don't know what is.
:So what's stopping you from making the edits yourself and providing your sources for your claims? Chensiyuan 06:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm actually pretty shocked it hasn't been up here, but it's funny how everyone loves to complain about it, but no one adds it. Get the sources together and get to it. Hell, I'll probably end up doing it just because I think it deserves mention. Just need some free time to get it all together.  ZodiiakDial Z 02:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Very well. Chensiyuan (talk) 01:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy Section?

message: Chensiyuan:  I do not understand why you deleted the information relating to Bruce Bowen's lawsuit here in San Antonio?  That is a very notable, public event. Biggus Dickus OMG (talk) 04:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The referenced link does not work. Chensiyuan (talk) 04:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

text: I believe you pasted the wrong URL in the article. Anyway, large chunks of text were lifted off from the mysanantonio article. This unfortunately is not permitted here. The contents need to be summarised and paraphrased... Chensiyuan (talk) 20:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

text: You do not agree that the contents need to be paraphrased? I randomly picked one sentence ("All this ended up in the hands of Joy Roan, who just wanted her computer fixed."), and found it to be an exact match. That's a copyright violation. Zagalejo^^^ 06:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They will need to be paraphrased unless it's clear you're attributing directly by way of quote marks. Even so, unloading pretty much half the article here is unwieldy and therefore a summary is called for. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: ID Theft lawsuit

message: Though everybody knows playing defense in an all-star game is grounds for ejection, this article ought to mention Bowen’s third-place showing among western-conference forwards ( ). ―cobaltcigs 03:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 2009 all-star ballot

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message: An unregistered editor added a hack job/screed about Bowen's 'dirty' play—written to convey the allegations as authoritative sourced fact—the presentation/context was WP:OR. In fact, both sources were opinion pieces. A google search turned up numerous allegations of dirty play, so I changed the language and locations of the allegations, and added references. I think the quantity and consistency of the accusations warrant some mention, in the context I wrote. Tapered (talk) 01:12, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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