Talk:Beenie Man

message: Hm personally I think this place is VERY informitev <-I hope that is spelled  rite but there are not  many links if other not enof but ya kool
I don't know what the hell you think is wrong with the edited and grammatically corrected version, SqueakBox, but after this, I don't think I'll bother. Merry Christmas.
(On 8/7/2017 a/t 2:35pm)'; I ,';Am just trying to send a message to one of my Jamaican ragae artist beene man I wanted to know if he is gonna be at the laber day parade on the 9/4/2017 in neyork this year that why oam into is page rite now its just a big up respond I wanna hail up the man been I man I remember I met him at grove enter tainment center at cross road Kingston Jamaica for a rehersial for two stage shows we bought should performs on one in madivil  manchester ,and one in Clarendon kelllyixt that all winkeey medio also I wanted to be on his parade truck with him this year if he was gonna be at the carribian music laber day parade festival this year I  the original lady joy 1 would ride and sing along with him this year and have some good time and fun with him and feel the the music carnival festival sprith into my heart
T soul and bones then after if I can I would book my self into Adams hotel on high street in upper neyork and have a good time with the rest of the crew so of this message could post along fast to reach him this would  e good for me I would really appreshate this  I got a lot of ragae artist friend but been I man is one of my faverett sim Simms tell me who got the kee for me beema tell him I EOD wanna ride into is beema it means is mersidees bens then shaggy is my second next idials and daddy screw coming from my baby dady stable and music label ragaie ROM jam and wild firier recording label a so hit go big up the man them don't forget all jamaican ragae artist a, big big up to you all but to those three first respect ,a'!! who  say that,';?? Its the original lady joy 1.) A me say that------> big up,but no buyacka after shaba Rankin respect. The original lady joy1 (talk) 18:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Informative

message: MTV had plans to include Beenie Man in their roster of performers at the 2004 MTV Video Music Awards, held in Miami, Florida, but due to a group gay and lesbian bloggers who disapproved of some of his Jamaican releases made a decade earlier (in response to highly a publicized man/boy rape case in Jamaica in which Beenie Man and other entertainers used their artistic abilities to expose the horrific case[citation needed]), MTV decided to exclude Beenie Man [4].
It is clear in this paragraph that the edit is hoping to alleviate the criticism of Beenie man and uses emotive language to show LGBT bloggers as being somehow gratuitous in their objections. 
Beenie Man's use of the phrase battyman is a clear reference to homosexuality, specifically anal intercourse between two men. This is a common Jamaican slang still in use today.[5] 
Once again a clear redaction... if the latter sentence is true then this point being made is less significant, but such structure at the moment is clearly wrought to undermine the contraversy.
(Though) criticisms of his lyrics have received a disproportionate amount and the tone in his music noticeably has become less aggressive[citation needed]. 
The current phrasing is just a disguised attempt to look objective and moderate, but is in fact just one more addition to the argument that Beenie Man's homosexuality is incidental or justified. No doubt this has occurred from member's objections to the section's presence at all, but should remain objective so long as it remains on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.7.45.241 (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Both are correct. Peter Thatchell and Outrage campaign for LGBT rights. By definition LGBT rights are human rights. However the the former is a more descriptivie and accurate term so I've substituted human rights with LGBT rights Nil Einne (talk) 12:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clear Bias 

message: How is the "Homophobia" section unbalanced? Hyacinth (talk) 23:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (Copyedit from the Capleton talk page) Because there is Undue Weight on the Homophobia issue given the size of the article. This is a problem on a lot of Jamaican artist websites, who had people on a crusade to write homophobia sections that a disproportionate to the articles' size. See the talk page of Buju Banton's article for a discussion on it. This is not a fair representation of these artists, and the weighting is a key policy of Wikipedia. I am not condoning nor condemning their homophobic lyrics, but this is mainly notable to the LGBT community and Wikipedia is not properly representing the history of these artists, who have dozens of worldwide performances, many albums and the vast majority of songs that do not have homophobic lyrics. IMO, Homophobia is less of a per artist topic than a Jamaican cultural notability, and there's both the LGBT rights in Jamaica article (that has a large section discussing the music) and the Stop Murder Music that aptly cover what people have been injecting paragraphs into these artists. In Beenie Man's article, the Homophobia section nearly as long as his Career, which is not a fair reflection. This is why I have added the Unbalanced tag as presently the article is not properly balanced, either by reduction in the Homophobia section or expansion of the rest of the biography, or a combination of the two. This is to provide a reader with a heads up to the issues with these articles. Rasadam (talk) 03:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Stating that someone is politically outspoken is not defamation. Stop talking about me and start talking about the article. Hyacinth (talk) 01:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unbalanced

message: Ok, so why do we need this tag at the top of the page? Virtually everything in the article is now sourced with the exception of the section on his personal life. That can be tagged specifically as needing sources, so why do we need the whole article to be tagged as requirring sources?--Michig (talk) 05:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no response here I have removed the tag.--Michig (talk) 11:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLPSources 

message: How come it is not mentioned that Beenie is part of the marijuana movement. He has several drug related lyrics mostly in "The Chronic", "Ganja Farm" and "Ganja Anthem".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.37.139 (talk) 04:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro Marijuana 

message: An anonymous IP keeps adding this to the lede which is inappropriate. If anyone feels this is justified please discuss it here before re-adding it.--Michig (talk) 07:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Article semi-protected for five days. IP-hopping users with an agenda get tiring. — ξxplicit 23:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be construed that you have an agenda of your own by deleting it. I do not feel it necessary to go as far as putting "Beenie Man is a homophobe" in the lede, but Beenie Man has caused widespread controversy and been widely criticized for his homophobic lyrics and opinions, and this could be mentioned in the lede as one of the things he is most known for, and then expanded upon in the main article. It is also appropriate to place this article in the Homophobia category as it pertains to a subject (person, organisation, object, etc) that is related to the topic of homophobia. There have been lengthy discussions about correct usage of the term, and consensus is that it is appropriate to use it where the article subject has a clear and well documented connection to the category. It does not matter if Beenie Man himself has denied being homophobic, it is still a clear connection to the subject of homophobia. Please do not remove this unless that consensus changes. 80.47.23.180 (talk) 05:32, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Homophobe" in lede 

message: This artist is one of only ten worldwide who are being protested for calling in their lyrics for the murder and torture of people.  Whether you agree with the protest or not, it is this fact that makes these ten artists stand out, and it should be referenced at the top of the artistes entry (along with a lyric clarifying the reason for the protest).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.63.127 (talk) 22:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I pared down the "Stop Murder Music" section (renaming it "Lyrics Controversy"), removing opinionated material, and the continued references to YOUR campaign. I have, however, left the citations. The section is much more neutral now, and I advise you to leave it alone.--Chimino (talk) 14:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop Murder Music (2010) 

message: there are new singles such as "I'm Okay" and "drinking rum and redbull".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikireadernow (talk • contribs) 21:14, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They are indeed popular singles right now, however I have an overall problem with the singles listing, as Beenie Man has had top singles nearly every year of his career going back to the early 1990s, as well as before. It's simply impossible (or at least, nonconstructive to the page) to list them all.--Chimino (talk) 14:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  new singles July 2010 

message: I'm also going to make a change in the lead paragraph. It finishes with "He is now the proclaimed," King of the Dance Hall."", but this nickname was given to himself after recording the single "King of the Dancehall" (which led to a dispute with Yellowman, who has been crowned "King" by his peers in the past). Therefore I am changing the title to "self-proclaimed King of the Dancehall". Any disagreements, please post them here.--Chimino (talk) 14:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead paragraph 

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