Talk:Muster (livestock)

message: Could this article name be changed to "Mustering" as it is confusing as is, for there are many other types of musters as ute, convict and music etc. Are we to contribute concerning mustering horses or using horses? Cgoodwin (talk) 03:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

message: This article should not be merged with Cattle drive as they are 2 totally differnet things!Cgoodwin (talk) 23:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but that article there is really poor.  (Is it bad WP etiquette to say it sucks? LOL!)  It is basically what was left once someone else spun off [{Cattle drives in the United States]].  In the US, rounding up cows and then moving them somewhere is sort of a combined effort in modern times.  I guess that I wish someone would either put in the alleged needed worldwide focus on that other article or just redirect it here and add a section to note that after you muster or round up the critters, they often next have to go somewhere.  I kind of dislike separate stubby articles on things when they can be merged into bigger and more thorough articles on a topic.  But no big deal either way. Montanabw(talk) 23:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect, if they're merged, it would almost have to be the other way around: Cattle drives include driving cattle to a muster point, but also include other things, like long-distance transport. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a dead issue, we should just toss the tags.  The American Cattle Drive has a unique history and its own article.  It was the original "cattle drive" article, the split out may have actually weakened the base article beyond repair though, because other than Australia and the US, I don't really know what other nations have the geographic distances or needed a significant long-distance historical cattle drive tradition.  Mexico and South America, perhaps, I suppose more could be added on that. Montanabw(talk) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Parts of Africa too, I think: Don't the Maasai drive cattle? I mean, they're nomads with large herds - they'd have to at least drive them to some extent. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, though there is a difference between "herding" and "driving" -- finding that line is not something I have a lot of time or energy to look into, but just noting that moving cattle around isn't necessarily the same thing as a "cattle drive." I might "herd" cows from one pasture to another, but when they have to go down the road a few miles, it probably becomes a "drive" at some point. Where that point is probably varies somewhat by region.  Montanabw(talk) 19:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: No Merge

message: Basically a muster is when stock are assembled on the property where they are living for whatever reason, and in some instances they may not even be removed from their paddock, as in the case of inspecting sheep for maggots. At the other end of the muster scale some of these paddocks are over 25,000 acres. Droving is the movement of stock, usually over distances on public roads or TSRs and sometimes on other private properties. A ringer or stockman does the mustering and typically a drover does the droving.Cgoodwin (talk) 02:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I always love this stuff!  In the US, the terms "roundup" and "drive" are pretty much analogous to muster and droving.  Except that a lot of our roundups also occur on public land as well as private land, as many ranchers have leases to BLM or Forest Service Land for grazing -- a use that is not exclusive, as people also hike, camp, fish, etc., in the same areas.  In the US, a "paddock" is a pen or a corral!  An Aussie "paddock" is our field or pasture!    The big Texas ranches, where there is relatively little public land, can have as much private land as an Au station, while in places like Nevada and up here in the Northwest, where we have gobs of public land, the ranches are smaller (though in dry areas can still be several sections) because they can obtain public land leases cheaper than it costs to graze on one's own land, when considering all factors.  Montanabw(talk) 21:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muster and droving clarification 

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