Talk:Classical music/Archive 1

message: I removed the following paragraph which is nowhere near being NPOV. I don't think its a valid or true observation, so I'm not willing to NPOV it to death and add it back in, but feel free.-Hyacinth 17:13, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  UninvitedCompany 23:53, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

text: Glad it's gone.  Good riddance.  Antandrus 17:09, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Odious paragraph on sexiness of classical and popular performers

message: "[The Marsalis Haydn trumpet concerto recording] on the strength of Marsalis' jazz notoriety, became a classical best-seller." ~ Richard S. Ginell, All Music Guide
There would be no point in including the Haydn Trumpet Concerto in this section
were it not for Marsalis's recording--otherwise, it wouldn't be an example of crossover, right?  So anyone who wants to delete should delete the concerto, too.
Opus33 22:59, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Marsalis's Haydn

message: Partly because its the terminology I use, and partly for completeness, I propose Concert music over classical music when refering to Eastern Asian (European) music of the middle to upper class and its descendents. It nicely avoids the vaguries of art music, while it avoids the double meaning of classical music. Sure, almost all music is "concert music" in that it is performed in concerts (while some (much) classical music is not), but this works to the terms advantage in that there isn't any other kind of music designated "concert." Hyacinth 22:41, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That's certainly one of the terms I have tried out, but I find a lot of my non-classical-music friends don't know what I'm talking about when I say it.  Unfortunately, though I still feel like I'm chewing gravel each time I say it, it seems that "classical music" is the most widely understood.  I have to admit I have a hard time labeling Terry Riley, Philip Glass or John Zorn, to grab a few random names, as "classical," though, so I usually perform contortions to avoid using a label at all.  Blame Aristotle for making us think we need to label everything.  Antandrus 17:07, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Concert music

message: Anyone think we should have a common table for classical pieces? For reference purposes. Other fields for other genre - key, movements, famous from (for the more populist fans (Volvo advert, etc.) etc --OldakQuill 17:27, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Piece "Taxobox"

message: I've posted a query about policy concerning classical music articles at
Talk:Ludwig van Beethoven.  Your input would be very welcome.  Opus33 18:44, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Query for classical music editors

message: When discussing the relationship between art music and popular music, it might be worth mentioning that some pieces especially of the classical and romantic aera have become folk music (in the actual sense of that term.) This is at least true in Germany for pieces like Schubert's "Das Wandern is des Müllers Lust" from "Die schöne Müllerin" or his "Am Brunnen vor dem Tore" from the "Winterreise".  It is probably also true for the Papageno songs from the "Zauberflöte" or for "Freude, schöner Götterfunken" from Beethoven's 9th. --- Utis 11:25, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the principal melody of the largo movement of Dvorak's 9th symphony was adapted to an American spiritual called "Goin' home." --Herschelkrustofsky 12:17, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Art music and popular music