Talk:Libertarianism/Archive 6

message: Need a few good souls to help on the United States wiki and discussion
See "Goverment Type" and "Democracy." I can't do this alone...
--Cuimalo 19:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: HELP!

message: I notice that in the edit summary it says "reworked first two sentences. by the way the explanation of what it means for something to be a political philosophy doesn't belong there, does it?". Well, not strictly true. If something must be clarified in the article to resolve a dispute or make the article clearer, then it's perfectly valid to give a brief description of what is being talked about. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to the edit summary 

message: Check it out. Anyone feel brave enough to give try to fix this? - Ta bu shi da yu 04:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No more! Have fixed. A note to note makers: making a 2 word summary in the link is pretty helpful. See W. Mark Felt for an example. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes are screwed. 

message: I hardly think so. If you look at anarcho-communism for instance, it classifies itself under the Liberterian philosophy. -- Natalinasmpf 22:41, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  is communism opposed to liberterianism? 

message: * libertarian socialism (also called left libertarianism). The article "Libertarianism (metaphysics)" deals with a conception of free will. See also civil libertarian
* right libertarianism - a modern, post-socialist variant which accepts doctrines of individualism and property rights. (sometimes called right libertarianism).
:I wouldn't call "right libertarianism" a "variant" as it isn't from the same ideological tradition. The leftists come from the Nero, Caligula, Proudhon, Marx, Stalin, and Hitler tradition, while the rightists come from the Locke, Smith, Jefferson, Bastiat, Mises, and Rothbard tradition. Rich333 23:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, no one except maybe some libertarian socialists in some very specific contexts refers to libertarian socialism as libertarianism. Also, no one, except, again, maybe some  libertarian socialists in some very specific contexts, refers to the libertarianism that is the topic of this page as right libertarianism.  The NPOV (held by non-libertarians) is that libertarianism is the libertarianism of this page, and libertarian socialism is libertarian socialism.  --Serge 19:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed general disambiguation 

message: Can an admin move the page back?  This issue has been discussed before ad nauseum, and the consensus was to keep the page here with the prominent disambiguation at the top. Dave (talk) 20:05, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:Err... I did that, but I'm not an admin. You can move pages over redirects, FYI. Unless you're talking about my page move... Ambush Commander 20:07, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:now it's moved back.  Good.  Would people care to discuss?  Dave (talk) 20:06, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:Do not move this article while it is featured on the main page. I have no objection to discussing it now, and moving it later, but for now, it stays put. →Raul654 20:08, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:...ditto for NPOV disputing it. →Raul654 20:09, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:: I have no problem with the first, part. The second part seems to violate the wiki spirit. -SV|t 20:44, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I dont like the page move 

message: Someone moved Libertarianism to Right libertarianism. No notes, no explanation on talk page at all. Sorry, I'm moving it back. Ambush Commander 20:05, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
:I wish it went without saying that you should refrain from moving an article on the one day that it's featured on the main page. I guess that's too much to ask. Rhobite 20:15, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
::Consider it just another form of vandalism. After all, pretty much every article that's featured on the front page gets defaced, and you'd think that not doing that would also go without saying. --Daniel11 04:42, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted Page Move