Talk:Swindon Town F.C.

message: I've been looking at the 'since 1990' section and hoping to clean it up, there was a bit of duplication, and some confusion and innacurracy, and in general a lack of good flow.   I also noticed that some of my recent edits have already been changed for the worse but can't see by whom.  A few points I'm looking to change:
*The following year, Swindon were relegated for the second consecutive time for an administration offence and slipped into Division Two.  Can someone confirm this was for administration as it looks like we finished 21st
*A lot of this text is cribbed straight from the club website history page.
*McMahon succeeded in getting Swindon back into Division One after avoiding expulsion from the FA on his first attempt, as they won the Division Two championship in 1996. This is a run-on sentence and seems to indicate he was going to be expelled from the FA on his first attempt!
*It was seen that losing Paynter without a replacement was the main cause. Many would argue the loss of Gordon Greer was the bigger deal, but either way it needs referencing (I added the bit about Charlie Austin)
*During the close season of 2010 many Bookmakers had Swindon as one of the favourites for promotion to the nPower championship. This also needs a reference, though I get the point of saying it.  Where were we in the table after that Charlton win on Sky?
Also, do we need the season-by-season chart section at the bottom of the article as there is already a separate page for that? Lordjim13 (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Needed changes to the page

message: This article claims "many" Gillingham FC fans consider Swindon Town FC to be their fiercest rivals. There's a rivalry, sure, but there's clear bias to this statement. It should be sourced or removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.60.254.150 (talk) 14:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Simon, POV mean "Point Of View", in other words somebody considers what you wrote to expressing a biased point of view rather than just the facts. As I noted above I don't agree. Would be good to have some more stats etc on the page. --Bob Palin 01:25, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: There was massive duplication in the article.  I've merged them all together and done some heavy pruning, but I'm sure that it could be tidied even more. --Concrete Cowboy 12:35, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Major cleanup

message: (Currently Hidden:) "Notorious throughout these years for violence, recently against fans of Gillingham, in which women and children were targeted." - Source? Evening Adver for example
Now, I'm a Gillingham fan, although I wasn't at the game in question. From the accounts I gathered at the time, both from Gillingham and Swindon forums, that's pretty much true- a group of hooligans in Swindon shirts (I'm not going to call them fans, as that's an insult to their real fans) set upon the family enclosure at Priestfield after the game ended, and this is pretty much verified by local news sources: [], [], []. The question is whether or not that's notable enough to warrant mention in the article- standing alone, it certainly doesn't constitute being "notorious for violence", and I'm unaware of any other reputation for roughness. The original edit was probably kneejerk vandalism. That said, it's almost guaranteed that trouble will flair up again on Valentine's Day, when Gillingham and Swindon meet again, and this could become the case for all future encounters, so I'm torn. I'm leaning towards not encyclopedic... yet. --Lawlore 18:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History of Violence

message: Does anybody actually have any evidence of Jamie Cullen saying he's a fan?? I know he grew up in Wiltshire, and therefore is a local, but I've never heard him say that he supports Swindon.DAylen
Hi, there was an article in the Swindon Advertiser some years ago (it may even still have been called the Evening Advertiser back then) which reported that Jamie Cullem was invited to a Swindon match as a guest of the board and he stated that he used to occasionally come to watch the team when he was a youngster.  Unfortunately I can't find any online record of this article. (Stfctim (talk) 11:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Fans

message: I've just stumbled upon this page knowing very little about Swindon Town. The history section is quite good, but I'm not sure what order the lists (famous players, current squad etc.) are in - no order is evident. It would be good if Template:Football squad player could be used for the squad, arranged in shirt number order. I would probably recommend using alphabetical order for ordering any non-chronological lists. Slumgum | yap | stalk | 23:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists 

message: It surely warrants a separate article, and it surely isn't comprehensive.Slumgum | yap | stalk | 22:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comprehensive List of Former Players 

message: I am sorry I don’t have time to do it at this moment, but there have been some odd additions to track down and weed out. Specifically User:195.93.21.70’s contributions need checking. But there are probably others. Cheers! —Ian Spackman 19:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent vandalism 

message: "Swindon Town Football Ground hosted the first show in Still Existing's 2006 tour "Everlasting Loop"." - who or what is/are Still Existing?  And is this really a notable fact to mention in the article.....? ChrisTheDude 14:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: In my onward improvement goal, I have re-arranged the article into what *I* think is a possibly more logical flow of Prose and the Lists. I understand that this may not suit everyone's tastes and would like to open a discussion to see if anyone objects.
Some elements like notable fans and the mackerel trivia are things that are or can be described on their subjects article (in fact mackerel already does). The manual of style asks us to try to integrate trivial items into the main body of the article, and since this would be hard for something as obtuse as the fish fact - I think it's probably better to leave it out altogether.
I am at the moment at a loss for where to place the other team info as well and would welcome input from any interested party on helping to continue to improve this article. Cheers, - Foxhill 18:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: February restructuring

message: I am sure that last time I made a serious contribution to this page—perhaps a year ago—the years 1920–1969 were not empty. I suppose Wikipedia suffers from moth, rot, and rust like everything else. But something from the history of the page is probably worth restoring. —Ian Spackman 19:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the FA Cup QF from 1924 could come back in, I'm up to 1945 in my basic research and have stalled there on History of Swindon Town F.C. trying to pad that out enough to bring other things across and improve the flow. The whole old history section was moved over to that article when it grew massively long so anything you contributed into it should still be there. Hopefully I'll have the 1930-50 history fleshed out a bit better by next week if it isn't too depressing. Cheers,  - Foxhill 19:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, I see. But huge Swindon Town fan as I am, I really find having the history split off into a seperate article a bit bizarre. We have a history worth telling, but one that really doesn’t merit more that one article on Wikipedia. Remember that the history of a football club is a subset of history in general: it’s not just the trophies that are of importance. But I certainly recognize that you are doing good work, Good luck! Cheers, Ian Spackman 19:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A missing half-century 

message: After carefully reading the article and making several grammatical corrections, here are my thoughts.
# This article nicely follows the established MoS for a football club.
# The 'colors and kits' section needs to be shortened and revised, also, there is not a need for five sample kits.
# The second paragraph of the 'supporters' section may belong in the 'stadium' setion. Debatable
# The 'rivalries' section is rather long and should be shortened and merged with 'supporters'.
# I do not like the format of the 'achievements' section as it differs from the usual MoS style for this section.
# As per my personal preference, I like articles that have as least one picture from the early history of the club and one from recent times in the history section.  minimal importance but also easy to recocile
Timpcrk87 15:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  My appraisal 

message: Apart from the several minor issues imteized above I feel the article satisfies the GA criteria. It is nice and neutral, comprehensive and referenced. cheers,  Cas Liber | talk  |  contribs 02:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done and done! GA OK!cheers,  Cas Liber | talk  |  contribs 12:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary

message: Someone should have mentioned Mackerel on here by now - if you know about English football you'll know what I mean.
:86.135.91.79 10:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been added and deleted many many many many times (most recently as suggested during article improvement above. As it's addition is dissuaded by Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles it was felt better to keep the note on the Mackerel article. Foxhill 11:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh and as an aside the Mackerel fact is technically wrong since the name of the club is Swindon Town Football Club, which shares 3 letters with the word. - Foxhill 17:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mackerel 

message: There is a line in one of the opening paragraphs that says "Their fans are also known as 'west country yokel inbreds". Something doesn't seem right about that lol. Removal?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.136.215.236 (talk) 23:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Swindon Fans known as 'west country yokel inbreds'

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message: For the record, I believe consensus has been established on several occasions (including by a Nerdfighter - see diff) that the Nerdfighters association with Swindon Town F.C. is non-notable in the context of this article, according to WP:NWEB. This article is not even linked from the Vlogbrothers article. I will continue to remove references as they are added. Dave.Dunford (talk) 15:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Nerdfighters

message: The official attendance for the Swindon v Chelsea FA Cup match in September 2013 was 14,924 all seated. This is more then the total capacity stated here.  Does anyone have an updated source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.28.223.138 (talk) 00:41, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  County Ground capacity 

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message: Overkill on the article, seriously why do you need that? Govvy (talk) 16:18, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it's ridiculous. Just a prose list is fine. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kit table. 

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message: Instead of flip-flopping entries in the table and infobox, perhaps there should be a fuller explanation. There's no shortage of news coverage to work from. E.g. "Morfuni ... is involved in a high court legal battle with Power over the ownership of the club." (Ben Fisher, 16 Jul 2021, "No manager, not enough players: how Swindon Town were left to fall apart", The Guardian). ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 22:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership 2021