Talk:Bokator

message: Excellent additions - I uped the class from Stub to Start.  Keep up the good work.Peter Rehse 01:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: The name for this martial art is correctly Lbokkatao (ល្បុក្កតោ) but also romanised in various styles including Lbokator. Bokator is probably just an abbreviated colloquial pronunciation and it is the most common romanisation which was popularised by Antonio Graceffo by my guess. 
--Cantharellus 01:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: for some reason the characters in the parenthesis following Lbokkatao are showing up as questions marks, while Japanese and other scripts are showing up fine. --AlexOvShaolin 23:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think this is got to be one of the worst foreign language to English translation ever. The "tor" part is pronounced in "tao" in English.  The way you pronounce "tor" in English is not the same way as it would be correctly pronounced.Pwordisony (talk) 18:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no standard romanization for Khmer. Many Cambodians romanize words accordingly to their, usually, poor understanding of English phonetics. --Dara (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lbokkator 

message: It's a tricky question - but the rather ugly "Bokator" seems to be the most common transliteration in use (19,800 Ghits). Boxkator, which is more correct, gets only 787 ghits and poor old Labokator has 170 ghits. This probably shows that Bokator is the way to go. Incidentally the English language press in Cambodia generally use "Bokator" as well. Paxse (talk) 16:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no 'X' ever used in Khmer romanization. --Dara (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name... 

message: "Unlike kickboxing, which is a combat sport, bokator was designed to be used on the battlefield."
What's the difference? 
There should either be a link to a "combat sport" page or a better explanation of the difference.
Justpale (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  combat sport 

message: I just can't grasp the fact that most of these references are from news articles and blogs. And guess where authors such as Antonio Graceffo and other writers get their information from? The practictioners themselves. Who is to say these practitioners know the history of the art better than they themselves? They are not necessarily scholars. There are those that are arrogant and those that tell tall tales as well. If Graceffo is just regurgitating what he observes from the practitioners, then where has the standard of knowlege gone? Are there any academic studies of this martial art? I would really like to discourage the use of news articles as sources for citing. --Dara (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Cambodian government including the Olympic Committee of Cambodia researched the topic of Bokator.  They interviewed any elders who had training in Bokator and Cambodian martial arts.  The research interviews included any one who had training in Bokator not just those who were at a master level.  Those that were at a master level came from different provinces and different careers.  One of the masters grew up in a different country.  Master Ros Serei grew up in the Khmer community of Vietnam. There are different schools and different teachers that teach the martial art of Bokator in different ways.  There are academic studies, they were cited in Cambodia's report to UNESCO.  PhnomCambodge (talk) 10:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs more references

message: How is it possible for San Kim Sean to have left both during the Pol Pot regime and during the Vietnamese Occupation or by Vietnamese accusation? 98.231.221.95 (talk) 15:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: San Kim Sean

message: "They are backed by the cambodian authorities recent researches conducted by scholars, all over cambodian provinces in 2011; which led in July of the same year, to a convention of the last 23 masters (krus) of traditional khmer martial arts, still alive they where able to find. "
wut  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.195.13 (talk) 21:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence 

message: There is a big mistake. Bokator is not the khmer martial art. The name come from a legend who have nothing to see with Martial art. It had been create by Seam. The Martial art have never been lost in Cambodia as lot master trained Yutakhun Khom and Kback Khun Khmer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Selapak.cambodia (talk • contribs) 11:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bokator - Truth 

message: Assuming that there really was a big cat which attacked a village in what is now the Indochinese country of Cambodia, before being killed in that style, are you sure that this was an Asiatic lion, rather than an Indochinese leopard or tiger? The lion is not known to have existed east of South Asia, unlike the leopard or tiger.
 Leo1pard (talk) 08:28, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was the big cat a lion? 

message: Period 2600:8803:7994:F900:89B9:50A2:7FD6:AA54 (talk) 04:30, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  . 

message: Can we have more clarification? Muay thai is already a well recognised sport and martial art. I doubt the average person knows what a bokator is. 1.43.160.10 (talk) 02:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how the contrast in modern popularity between a martial art extensively promoted by a government and a martial art brought to the brink of extinction by a genocide in itself invalidates any potential descendancy. –Turaids (talk) 20:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is muay thai a "descendant art" of bokator? 

message: Descendant arts-Bokator has nothing to do with Muay Thai. It's a boxing game that copied the rules of Muay Thai and gave it a new name.  Please help remove the word Muay Thai from Bokator. Pnp070614 (talk) 19:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. This information is cited to consensus sources. If other sources disagree we can cover both perspectives but it's not likely to be removed completely. Jamedeus (talk) 22:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2024 

message: muay thai or any martial arts from was from thailand Muay Thai doesnt even has any involved about bokator Cambodians are trying so hard to told muay thai was their martial arts if you have any explanation that tell muay thai was descendants art of bokator pls tells me Paemsad234 (talk) 15:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, the khmers have sources to back up their claims, and it is really not hard to believe that the initial forms of Muay boran and Muay thai originated from ancient khmer civilization (Based on the bas relief) so unless you can find a source to your claim, it wont be removed. 110.74.213.190 (talk) 10:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete Muay Thai and muay boran was Descendant arts of bokator  

message: In khmer history books, its mentioned that the reformer was an avid fan and practioner of bokator/khmer boxing, and even hosted and competed in these matches himself during his stay at battambang in 1870 (At that time known as phra tabong when it was controlled by siam) though most of the population as described by siam was described as "Stubbonly khmer", they do mention that the khmers of Phra tabong (battambang) liked boxing and martial arts, including prince Ang sar (sisowath)
even after he retook battambang from thai hands, sisowath still was an avid boxing fan, and hosted events in battambang and the capital 113.130.126.124 (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have the link to the source and the precise name of the book, it can be added in some form. Pierrevang3 (talk) 03:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add King Sisowath as "famous practioner" of bokator 

message: ข้อมูลที่เขียนถึงมวยไทยเป็นเรื่องโกหก เขมร ไม่มีวัฒนธรรมมาก่อนไทยไม่เคยมีวัฒนธรรมมวยใดๆเลย ลอกเลียนแบบประเทศไทยทั้งหมด  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0823296165ok (talk • contribs) 00:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2024 

message: Must be the work for the thai nationalists, we need to fix this 110.74.215.24 (talk) 07:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the other descendant arts removed even tho its properly sourced and has evidence?