Talk:Psychedelic experience

message: It should be mentioned that there is a significant difference between challenging trips and psychotic trips, the former usually being considered a bad trip due to unpleasant feelings and difficult thoughts, and often leading to growth and self-realisation; and the latter usually causing real life harm and often not culminating in any benefits. The two classes of experiences are fairly different, and both grouped under "bad trip".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.140.133 (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad Trips

message: This article did seem to project a biased view in its language, using esoteric and possibly inappropriate ways of describing such an experience... as someones else said "as if they've had one".  I believe we should only cite that which is factual information based from credible sources with substantial knowledge of Psychology and/or Pharmaceutical/Psychoactive topics.  This is why I'm subjecting it to a clean up, so that we may add to the amount of information on the subject without making it sound like an anecdotal recall of ones own experience.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MahJesus (talk • contribs) 04:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up

message: It was requested that I elaborate on the tags I placed on the page, and so I shall do so.
The language of the article is questionable at best. I wouldn't say it violates NPOV precisely, but it seems to be written from the perspective of one who has experienced such an...experience.
Much of the article seems anecdotal, and is written with an almost reverent tone. Could I describe to you the exact tone with which this article should be written? Certainly not. Something as abstract as a psychedelic experience may not be describable in an encyclopedic tone. However, it seemed worth bringing up if only to provoke discussion of the matter. 
As for the other tag, it relates further to the anecdotal nature of the article. While much of what appears in the article may be accurate, it speaks solely in a subjective manner about such experiences. Perhaps the article could be expanded to include survey data, medical research, and the like. Objective facts about psychedelia that could be used to provide a broader picture, and make the article accessible to a broader audience. As I see this is part of a group project, I will leave it to your due consideration. 
Juansmith 05:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags

message: I have a few books which contain plenty of references and citations that can be used to bolster up this article, and remove the original research worry.  BTW, much of what is on this page cames from Erowid, which is a respected resource in itself.  --Thoric 21:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations coming 

message: Among notable 'mind explorers' is listed William White; this link is to a disambiguation page and there is no contextual information to allow selection of which person is being referred to here. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  William White 

message: "dmt is one of the most powerful..." yeah, that bit. surely LSD is waaaaay more powerful cos the doses are much smaller.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.217.55 (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: LSD is more potent than DMT, not more powerful. --—MagnoliaFen (talk) 09:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DMT 

message: this page I've found to be the best on the subject of psychedelics in general. the bottom line is that it's still in its infancy.
an expert could talk about its relation to transpersonal psychology, to entheogenic use, to Huxley's mind at large, etc.
but still, it's the kind of page I'm likely to visit back years from now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twipley (talk • contribs) 03:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality of the Page 

message: On 24th of January 2010 JamesBWatson deleted my link Publicly expressed thoughts and ideas about the effects of psychedelic drugs on bases of WP:ELNO. Probably meaning the point 12. that deals about open wikis. If you check this wiki you will see there is source for every claim and the ones that are not sourced are stated as rumours.
Do you think I could edit the link back to this article?--Custoo (talk) 20:53, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly support the addition of the link, it being decently sourced. --Aukikco (talk) 14:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  An external link 

message: Is there any information out there on how these drugs affect the brain physiologically and cause the described effects? User:70.230.144.107 01:39, 15 June 2012 
:I found this article that may be of interest re. your question...maybe add a section on endogenously triggered psychedelic experiences? Paul G. Joseph (2012), Serotonergic and tryptaminergic overstimulation on refeeding implicated in “enlightenment” experiences
:Octavious88 (talk) 17:04, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been discussed extensively at Talk:Enlightenment (spiritual)#Scientific Considerations and Talk:Enlightenment (spiritual)#Scientific Consideration and been rejected, as being unreliable. Main partcicipant in this discussion was User:Raul7213 and his puppetshow (user:Lotus sutra81 and User:Enterodoc9. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:12, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And it's also been discussed (and critisized) at other places:  Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neurological information 

message: can meditation trigger psychedelic experience up to level 5? Artiomjar (talk) 10:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  tripping through meditation 

message: The section on mystical/religious experience is well-sourced and reliably attested to, and a crucial aspect of 'psychedelic experience'.--92.236.35.88 (talk) 08:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved it upward, as a separate section/topic. Additional info & sources would be welcome. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:03, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mystical/religious experience and psychedelics 

message: This section is completely mis-sourced (it's source is a link to a website unrelated to Huxley) and by modern standards it isnt particularly relevant to psychedelic experience.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.35.88 (talk) 16:55, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Also Huxley is far better known for his characterisation of psychedelic experience as 'cleansing the doors of perception' which is already partially mentioned in the other section on Huxley--92.236.35.88 (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 17:12, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The section 'Aldous Huxley' under 'Effects' should be deleted 

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