Talk:Khidr

message: Use from SAW when talking on Muhammad constitutes a violation from neutral point of view policy, so I have removed it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.93.141.163 (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: SAW removed

message: Removing No Neutral terms used in article.
In the introduction of the article it says he taught every prophet in history except Muhammad, and Muhammad taught him instead.  However the bulk of the article does not say anything about where this is said, and doesn't even mention him meeting Muhammad (only mentioning Muhammad saying something about him and him being at Muhammad's funeral.)  It doesn't seem to mention his meetings with any prophets besides Moses either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.15.152 (talk) 12:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  something seems missing here 

message: Khidr is more common than Al-Khidr and it should be the name of the article. Google gives 33,100 results for "Al-Khidr"  and 358,000 results for "Khidr" . To remove the unwanted results if we add "moses" to al-khidr we will get 23,000 results (including the frequency of khidr)  and if we add "moses" to khidr we will get 25,400 results (excluding the frequency of al-khidr)  ! Lets add "Dhul-Qarnayn" instead of moses, and see the results. al-khidr alongwith "Dhul-Qarnayn" (excluding the frequency of khidr) gives zero result  and khidr alongwith "Dhul-Qarnayn" (excluding the frequency of al-khidr) gives 2,760 results . I'm not going further more to show how unpopular and uncommon is "al-khidr" as compared to "khidr", but even the results of khizr or khezr are more than al-khidr!   . It's better to have "Khidr" as the title of the article. --Wayiran (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I find your arguments unconvincing. Google counts are notoriously unreliable, but in any case there are many more important factors to consider, such as the avoidance of ambiguity and the ease of navigation for people seeking other articles whose names contain or might contain the word "خضر" in some spelling. I also find your insistence on moving the article wihout seeking consensus to be irresponsible. It would be best if other editors could make their views known. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Agree with "SamuelTheGhost" -- in general, the Arabic definite article is somewhat erratically transcribed into English and other languages, but in this particular case, the "al-" in "al-Khidr" helps it be understood as a personal name... AnonMoos (talk) 10:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I checked Google books and Google scholar, and Khidr is more commonly used in scholarly texts. --Kurdo777 (talk) 01:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

text: الخضر‎  al-ķaḍir, al-ķiḍr  a well-known legendary figure
(so implying that the legendary figure always has the definite article). 
Possible transliterations currently appear in the titles of wikipedia articles with these counts:
*Khadr - 10
*Khader - 9
*Khadir - 3
*Khidr - 3
*Khider - 2
*Khodor - 2
*Khizr - 2
*Khizar - 2
My conclusion is that the title of this article should be something longer; I notice for example that Green man of Islam is already there as a redirect. Then there should be a disambiguation page for Khadr/Khader/Khadir/Khidr/Khider/Khodor/Khizr/Khizar using one of those spellings, and redirects into it from all the other versions. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 13:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khidr 

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message: The inclusion of a very large section containing stream-of-thought associations based on the highly fringe ideas of Gürdal Aksoy is unnecessary for this article. Ogress smash! 15:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again, the inclusion of a very large section containing stream-of-thought associations based on the highly fringe ideas of Gürdal Aksoy is unnecessary for this article. Ogress smash! 00:33, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

text: Agreed, however some discussion should remain on this topic. TGdub (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gürdal Aksoy - highly fringe 

message: The main problem is that a quick search of "khidr" in google books finds nothing about Gigemesh or "Sumerian Noah" Utnapishtim.  Authors writing about khidr mention the Quran and Islam.   So at the very most it would seem the non-Islamic connection would merit a short mention in the lede and a less than the hundreds and hundreds of words currently in the body. 
--BoogaLouie (talk) 17:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Undue weight

message: This article appears to contain original research. In fact it appears to be almost entirely comprised of a re-formatted essay of some sort and not an encyclopedia entry at all. The material is far too long simply edit in place, suggestions?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TGdub (talk • contribs) 06:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I started the complaint so I'll try and clean it up, time permitting. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: I started to try and clean up but not sure how to proceed. 
Example: Here is a section from the article: 
Al-Khiḍr in "The History of al-Tabari"
In his chapter "The Tale of al-Khiḍr and His History; and the History of Moses and His Servant Joshua," al-Tabari describes several versions of the traditional story surrounding al-Khiḍr. ...
Who is al-Tabari? What is the "The History of al-Tabari"? A history of the life of some guy named al-Tabari? 
 
*al-Tabari is Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari "a prominent and influential Persian[1] scholar, historian and exegete of the Qur'an from Tabaristan, modern Mazandaran in Iran". no link was given in the article that I could find. 
*So what is "The History of al-Tabari"? Apparently a multi-volume work, written by al-Tabari, of ... histories? religious works? folklore? all of the above? apparently, judging from this. 
So having spent a fair amount of time I have essentially rewritten one sentence. --BoogaLouie (talk) 23:24, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I culprit? What is fault or crime? All text is not my work... I try only to give some new and correct information about origins of the myth! May be little bit academic, but it can be change by collaboration. --Tarasyani (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: More questions

message: Are there any traditions that equate al-Khidr with Melchizedek that could be added to this article entry?Barney Hill (talk) 20:25, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Melchizedek

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message: The article has way too many citations in the lead. I think that's not okay per MOS. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs)  17:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many references in the lead