Talk:Order of Christian Initiation of Adults

message: I was redirected to this entry when searching for "Mystagogy". Mystagogy is a term used for a study of those rites used to introduce one to the mysteries of a particular religion. However this entry is limited to the Roman Catholic usage of the term alone. A casual inquirer would, using this entry, conclude that Mystagogy is uniquely a Roman Catholic term of art. It is not. The entry reflects Catholic teaching as found in the Catholic Encyclopedia. It is not appropriate for a secular non-sectarian reference work. I see that the corresponding entry regarding a "Mystagogue" is not limited to the Catholic interpretation fortunately. I have also included a comment in that "Talk" section.LAWinans (talk) 19:16, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Mystagogy

message: If the prospective convert dies prior to completing the full regimen...are they considered hellbound, sent to purgatory, or granted salvation?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.100.121 (talk) 09:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: The examples and perspective in this article or section may not represent a worldwide view of the subject.
I have difficulty in understanding how this is the case; please expand.  What is a worldwide view?  Who decides the definition? 
The article refers specifically to converting to Catholicism.  It is totally uncontroversial and simply outlines with objective explainations the framework / process of the RCIA which is used globally throughout the Catholic world.  You cannot get more worldwide than this!!
(Monchelsea 12:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, the part after the introduction states that it is about the American rite, so I am concerned that it isn't also applicable to other nations.  For example, how much of that is pertinent to Catholics in Australia?  John Vandenberg 18:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: John, within the Catholic Church each Bishops Conference (US, England and Wales, Australia, etc) authorises Rites to be used within their Jurisdiction.  These Rites have to be approved by Rome and they are based upon the official Roman Rite, which is in Latin.  These regional Rites use the same framework as the Roman Rite.  In relation to the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults the Wiki article has been based upon the US approved Rite as: 1. It is in English; 2. It is one of the most developed as it specifically caters for Candidates as well as Cathchumens during thier formation.  However, the basic framework - Periods and Steps - is the same, and would be recognised throughout the World. I hope this helps. Monchelsea 16:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, my suggestion is to ignore the "worldwide view" tag and keep expanding the topic based on the American Rite.  Catholics from other nations will eventually come along and expand on the finer details for each conference. John Vandenberg 05:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worldwide view

message: The Introduction has a phrase that refers to the "Parish pastor, clergy, or religious."
The "grammar nazi" in me has to ask: religious what? Is the term "Religious" usable as a noun in this context?
--Joe Sewell (talk) 01:26, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you'll find in practice that Catholics reserve the term "religious" for those who belong to some religious congregation, not including diocesan clergy (who by definition do not belong to a religious congregation but are directly under the Bishop). Jzsj (talk) 17:20, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phrasing/Terminology 

message: On November 17, 2021, the USCCB voted to change the name to "Order of Christian Initiation for Adults", or OCIA (source). It's unclear to me if this change has been made for other parts of the world and whether or not that means the article should have its name changed. -Thunderforge (talk) 02:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The change has not occurred in the rest of the English-speaking world to my knowledge, certainly not in England and Wales.  Clement Robinson 02:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  USCCB changing the name to OCIA