Template talk:Ghost in the Shell

message: The movie Solid State Society is a part of the Stand Alone Complex series, which is a different series "universe" than the movie series.  Despite the fact it's a movie, it does not fit in with the same plot line as the two movies Ghost in the Shell and Innocence.  For this reason, I am removing Solid State Society from the movie series part of the template.  It is still present on the Stand Alone Complex series part of the template.--SOCL 16:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solid State Society 

message: I don't like how it says "by Masamune Shirow" when the films, OST, video games, etc. had nothing to do with him.--Stepusual (talk) 23:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If no one objects, I'm going to go ahead, be bold, and change the title to either simply "Ghost in the Shell" or "Ghost in the Shell franchise."--Stepusual (talk) 04:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It says "by Masamune Shirow" because the original manga series were written by him, and everything else in the franchise ultimately derives from those series. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 20:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consider Name Change 

message: Feel free to edit the below, it is not final yet. I would however recommend implementing it as soon as possible, both for the sake of standardization with other Anime templates, and since it is clearer to which "universe" any specific manga/movie/novel/video game belongs. G.A.Stalk 16:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a few tweaks to your proposal (if you're curious about my reasoning behind any changes I've made, feel free to ask ;) ). However, I think I'm pretty much the only other regular contributor who's likely to give a lick about this particular reorganization (and it's something that's been bugging me for awhile anyways), so I'd say just do it. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 18:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: . Looks much cleaner/clearer now. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 21:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Why does it say "by Mamoru Oshii"? Unless I'm mistaken, he was only involved with the first two films, not the manga or Stand Alone Complex. — A.M. (talk) 09:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed: it should have read "by Masamune Shirow" (the original creator). G.A.Stalk 04:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template cleanup pt3 proposed 

message: The template should be directly ghost in the shell related. There have been no references within the series specifically to appleseed other than that they share the same year (2029-2030). Theres have been actually bigger references to other works of masamune shirow, such as cameos.Lucia Black (talk) 03:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: So we add everything. Simple enough.—Ryulong (琉竜) 03:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Masamune adds several reference through multiple works, their not relevant enough. Same thing happens with CLAMP as they make cross overs, however thats much more related than a minor reference. Youve proven nothing to make appleseed kept. There is physical evidence to deem it worthy in the template.Lucia Black (talk) 03:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Appleseed is a related work by Shirow and exists within the same universe as far as I'm aware.—Ryulong (琉竜) 04:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No their not in the same universe. Have you read appleseed? And their other articles related to shirow, doesnt mean it belongs in the template specific for ghost in the shell.Lucia Black (talk) 04:04, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: related articles section

message: Why do you have a problem with it not being in the parans? It looks horrible and produces bad html. --Izno (talk) 02:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish you would give me a chance to respond. You are the only one who thinks it looks horrible and I have no idea what you mean by "bad html". I'm using a quirk in the formatting to produce a subset that looks like the other subsets in the template and displays perfectly fine within all browsers as far as I am aware. What I think you don't understand is that you made a bold edit, I reverted it, and then you should have started a discussion instead of assuming that just because someone else edited the template in the form you put it in then that means they agree with your formatting and you're allowed to edit war over it.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:33, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

text: very small issue. The parenthesis isnt very necessary since stand alone complex is in its own subsection. But i personally dont have a strong opinion for either, the parenthesis do help a bit with organization.Lucia Black (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Lucia, why did you revert my consolidation of all of the content into a single "Media" section? What was "inaccurate and confusing"? What was really confusing was the fact that we treated SAC as separate. Now it's listed alongside the original manga and the Arise reboot.—Ryulong (琉竜) 03:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 1), it was never confirmed to be a reboot, it is simply a prequel series. But even then, we cant actually say it falls within a specific universe (the manga uses the fuchikomas, the film doesnt so both obviously are alternate universes). So the Arise series is a series of its own. 2)we didnt treat stand alone complex. The edits just affect the outcome of future edits. Originally we had "original series" group, and "Stand Alone complex" group. Whoever moved it to "franchise" didnt fully think of the outcome of future edits. Theres just too much media to actually have one group, especially if each one falls in a different universe. Stand Alone complex has its own section to help navigate between stand alone complex related articles. Once "Arise" gets a large number of articles, Arise will also get its one group aswell. 3) the innacuracy was naming the manga by its japanese name. That will only cause confusion. Kokaku kidotai is the japanese name for ghost in the shell, its not reffered to as "kokaku kidotai: the ghost in the shell" in japanese news, only kokaku kidotai. The film is the only one referred to as such (and the video game but that falls in the manga's universe). I implore you to do further research.Lucia Black (talk) 04:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episodes link