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Talk:Systems philosophy

message: Hello everyone I'm new to this so hope I'm going about this the right way. 
I want to point out that the article is not fully representative of what Systems Philosophy is about. The explanation of what Systems Philosophy is, which is used in the first paragraph, actually describes part of what von Bertalanffy called “systems technology” in the Preface to the 1976 revised edition of his 1968 book “General System Theory” (the new preface was probably written in early 1972).  As he discusses there, “systems technology” is a distinct domain within the systems disciplines, the others being “systems theory” which includes the systemics and GST, and “systems philosophy”, which is the new worldview that arises from applying the systems perspective to natural systems.  In the same place von Bertalanffy describes Systems Philosophy as having three subdivisions, namely (1) “systems ontology”, which is about clarifying systems concepts and identifying the kinds of systems that actually exist, (2) “systems epistemology” which is about how to understand the real world in systems terms (the systemic worldview), and (3) what is nowadays known as “soft systems”, i.e. systems that embed “values” and “humanistic aspects”.
I think the present article mostly discusses aspects of “systems ontology”, which is only the background to “systems epistemology”, which is the essence of Systems Philosophy.  The article treats Systems Philosophy as if it is merely the Philosophy of Systems, and thus, by analogy with any other “Philosophy of X”, only about the nature of systems and the disambiguation of systems concepts.  But as Laszlo’s 1972 book “Introduction to Systems Philosophy” shows, and von Bertalanffy’s 1976 Preface affirms, it is really about the new worldview that emerges from looking via a systems perspective at Nature and our place in it.  
I’m an experienced systems scientist, can I suggest some changes to make the article more representative and more complete?
--Brussellator (talk) 23:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to improve accuracy and completeness 

message: I've cleaned up the article, removing irrelevant and incorrect material, and added material and citations to make it clearer and more accurate.  I will add more material, but the main outline is looking okay now.
--Brussellator (talk) 09:13, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Much better now, more to do... 

message: The section on Ozbekhan and the Club of Rome appears not to be relevant to the development of Systems Philosophy as conceived by Laszlo nor related to the worldviews integration work of Apostel.  I have separated the additions into their own section to preserve the work but its relevance to the development of Systems Philosophy should be made clear or else it should be moved to another article.  It is interesting material and important in the history of the systems sciences, but I think it belongs elsewhere - perhaps the article on the Club of Rome?
Brussellator (talk) 21:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of Ozbekhan to Systems Philosophy?
Talk:Southern Railway

message: Couldn't this be seperated into those that were "Southern" and those that are (currently). Simply south 19:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally think it should be separated into those that were named or called 'Southern Railway' and those that simply contain 'Southern Railway' in their name.  (Some theories of disambig pages state that the latter shouldn't even be included). Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 21:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There seem to be a bunch of Southern Railroad/Railway of State (e.g., of Mississippi) entries. Even if there is any evidence that these were ever legitimate lines separate from the Southern Railway (US), their names are ill-formed here. I'm going to fix the link formations and if nobody complains, in a week I'm going to eliminate the entries. Mangoe 18:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Railroad/Railway of "State"
Talk:Some Kind of Monster (song)

message: Why is this even a page? It's one sentence. --Vyran 19:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why

message: The Some Kind of Monster EP is a maxi-single (a maxi single or maxi-single is a music single release with more than the usual two tracks; generally an a-side song and a b-side song). Plus, the track listing on the actual "Some Kind of Monster" page has the same track listing of the EP on it. FallenWings47 (talk) 18:45, January 29, 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. Enigmamsg 20:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There don't seem to have been any objections in the past year, so let's merge.Tubefurnace (talk) 12:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: Changed "The song's birth and development are well detailed in the eponymous documentary as well" to "The song's birth and development are well detailed in the homonymous documentary as well" because eponymous means "(of a person) giving their name to something. "the eponymous hero of the novel" or (of a thing) named after a particular person. "Roseanne's eponymous hit TV series"" while homonymous is "having the same name as another" Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 18:08, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eponymous or Honomyous ?
Talk:Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

message: The plot description of this book uses diction that is inappropriate for an encyclopedia.  Minaker 11:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This book came along when I was an adult, but I think it may have been inspired by another book that was popular when I was a kid.  It was called I Should Have Stayed in Bed, by Joan Lexau and illustrated by Syd Hoff.  The plot is different but the theme is similar.  Anyone else remember it?  Someone should write a Wikipedia article on that book.184.5.156.221 (talk) 17:22, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar to "I Should Have Stayed in Bed" 
Talk:St Peter Mancroft

message: It contains the oldest pealed bells in England. 
This statement is very misleading, probably because the person who wrote it didn't understand what they had read. 
The bells at St Peter Mancroft are nowhere near the oldest "pealed bells" in England. Bells that are "pealed" are bells that are rung in an ordered mathematical pattern. Bells in the UK, and many countries of the Commonwealth, are hung in such a way that they can be pealed. Bells that are hung for "pealing" or Change ringing are called a "peal of bells". A peal of bells might have from 5 to 16 bells, but usually has 8 to 12. When peals are rung, each bell has a separate ringer who controls the timing with which their bell is rung, so that there is an ever-changing pattern. The method of hanging bells in other contries does not give the bell ringer any control over the pattern. The bells just swing like pendulums, each to its own time. 
There are several systems of "peals", each one of which takes about 3 hours to ring out a full peal. Ringing of a peal usually only happenes at a time of significant public rejoicing. When a team of ringers achieve this, they generally put a plaque on the wall of the tower. The first complete peal was rung at St Peter Mancroft in 1715. The bells that were used are not the ones in use today. The present bells date from the 1790s and early 20th century. 
Very occasionally, a team of ringers will attempt to ring every possible mathematical combination on 8 bells. This takes about 24 hours and has only been satisfactorily achieved once, in Loughborough in the 1963s. 
Amandajm (talk) 08:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:St Lawrence Church, Ipswich for further relevant discussion.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Erroneous statement

message: Apparently it's dedicated to St Peter, by why "Mancroft"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.71.2.189 (talk) 01:31, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whay is it called St Peter Mancroft? 

message: The following coordinate fixes are needed for
—Schools for the deaf (talk) 03:32, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article, and they appear to be correct. If you still think that there is an error, you'll need to supply a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 13:14, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates
Talk:Pisco punch

message: --Minor page edit proposal--
The grapes grown are Muscat grapes. (pronounced moose-kat). They grow one the volcanic soil in and around the port of Pisco. Pisco "brandy", was the first distilled spirit made in the new world. As there were no glass bottles in the 16th century, the brandy was shipped in ceramic containers sealed with beeswax. The wax marinated the brandy, giving it a half-tone of honey flavor.
--Reference in the history section?--
I'd like to reformat the "reference" currently included in the history section as a proper reference. It would be great to know if that whole section is, in fact, a verbatim quote... Aaronshaw (talk) 02:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Talk:List of Thelemites

message: That policy about not changing citation styles is about established styles. You had used one style for 20-some citations, and an alternative style for just 2. I merely changed the 2 to match the others. I thought I was helping.    ▶ I am Grorp ◀  09:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I will reply where I started the conversation, thank you. Skyerise (talk) 09:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation styles
Talk:Stick to Me

message: Whoever made this entry has created a link to Bob Andrews from Generation X which is a mistake. Graham Parker's keyboard player Bob Andrews was originally a member of Brinsley Schwarz.
: Until such time as the estimable Mr Andrews gets his own wikipedia page, I've removed the link.--Dogbertd 12:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the wiki guideline for those is that you're not supposed to link to not-yet-existing articles unless you're ready and willing to write the articles. So, really, all those links should probably go, especially for the horn players and such. Ccoll 16:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bob Andrews link
Talk:The Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka

message: I have just watched this episode. It seems to me that upon Kenny's death, not his lower half (as stated in the article), but his upper half (indicated by his arms and head) is dragged away. I will change this in time unless anyone contradicts me here.
--Florian Prischl 20:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kenny's death 

message: Isn't the title of this episode a reference to Mark Twain's The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County? --Geopgeop (T) 07:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of episode a reference? 

message: Its kind of a stub, I'm surprised that I couldn't even stretch it any longer (and I usually do). AznWarlord (talk) 16:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article
Talk:Hatebreeder

message: in this article is says keyboards are used more and this explores a very classical side than previous works but in something wild article is says this album uses keyboards more with more classical influences than later works like hatebreeder--66.146.157.12 14:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  contradictions 

message: This is the only black metal album CoB has ever produced. Do not start changing genres here or in other albums due to it - just an advice. Haxxiy (talk) 23:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's black metal influenced at best and it's only evident in "Warheart". This is a straight up melodeath album.--F-22 RaptörAces High♠ 02:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  black metal
Talk:Hate Crew Deathroll

message: "This showed the band's sound becoming more streamlined and a bit simpler, more power metal and classic metal oriented than on previous albums."
I'd hardly call this album anything like power metal. User:Undersea
: I'd call it borderline industrial, if anything.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.117.83 (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Metal? 

message: On the version of HCDR I have, the "secret material" is after Silent Scream, not Hate Crew Deathroll. Anyone else notice that, or do I just have a strange release? Kurt 13:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that "Silent Scream" is only on the limited edition release, that makes sense. You do indeed have a strange release! -- Ghostreveries 17:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret material 

message: Just added a few minor edits and additional information on the American Psycho quote. Good, informative article otherwise. -- Ghostreveries 17:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 
Talk:Southsea

message: Ben 20:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

message: Dickens lived in Wish Street, Southsea in 1813.
Wish street only existed between 1810 & 1867, when it gave way to other housing development.
However it was in Southsea as it in between the area of green street/landport terrace (i.e below winston Churchill Ave) so maybe he should be in?
#Maybe, Landport Terrace though is not in Southsea, so it would depend on exactly whereabouts Wish Street was. I'm slightly dubious that it was truely in Southsea as the article on Southsea itself has the area only starting to be developed in 1809, five years before the Dickens left for LondonNuttah68 19:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am against the proposed merge of articles suggested it would cause a loss of information in many cases and an overloading of the main page.  Notably a similar set of proposals was made by an anonymous user to disrupt the Portsmouth page and those of its schools information is here and also here -- Drappel 21:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MERGE 

message: The article says there are two piers, but I can only see one on Google Earth, which suggests that the other may have been demolished. Greg Grahame 13:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: South Parade 50 46 40N 1 04 32W and Clarence 50 47 08N 1 06 04W. It doesn't look much like a pier but if you turn on "Best of Google Earth community" there are a couple of them that give it away. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: clarance pier is not really a pier just an area off of the mainland, is does not stand out at all  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.206.3 (talk) 15:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You can quite clearly see it overhanging/standing out from the shoreline in Google maps here: Clarence Pier just because it doesn't protrude perpendicular to the shoreline, doesn't mean it is not a pier. JonEastham (talk) 11:55, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 2 piers?

message: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/the-cricketers-southsea-24444
artist died 1881 so public domain.
©Geni 04:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible pic
Talk:British Emperor

message: No mention of this title in the article seems a little odd. 89.241.50.186 (talk) 15:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Brytenwalda

message: This article was forked out from the Emperor article for edits to the contents of this article before Revision of "British Emperor" as of 12:57, 14 March 2006 by user:Francis Schonken See Revision of "Emperor" as of 22:39, 11 March 2006 by user:Neddyseagoon 
This note is so that if there is a copyright issue the text can be tracked back through the Emperor article --Philip Baird Shearer 18:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Forked Article

message: Instead of putting Emperor of the Birtish and Irish and Emperor of the British and Hanoverian Dominions into this article, I would like to create a new one called "Proposed Imperial Titles for George III" or something. How does that sound?   CharlesMartel 20:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd go with just merging  the two into this one, it would fit fine in the article as is without creating a seperate article.  At any rate the information would just work as well if it were mentioned in the George III article instead of a seperate article. Radagast83 06:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed titles for George III

message: The characterisation British Emperor (or: British Empress), that is: being British and also being Emperor/Empress can only be applied to very few people, as Britain's monarchs are indicated as king or queen (latin: rex/regina) in almost all cases.
My edit is tentative, though, but I felt it would look better than that. Snapdragonfly 11:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horrible opening paragraph
Talk:Regan MacNeil

message: Did the movie really show her "mutilating her genitalia with a crucifix"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.174.43 (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, although not with graphic nudity. --Cheeser1 (talk) 23:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, so it doesn't really show it, it just implies it? 68.54.174.43 (talk) 00:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, although without any ambiguity about what she's doing. --Cheeser1 (talk) 02:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'd say the line "Let Jesus f**k you" makes it pretty obvious.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.214.222.147 (talk) 05:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I was always under the impression that she was masturbating with the crucifix, not mutilating herself. The words mean two totally different things, so someone should probably check and see which it is (I'm useless for this, as I've never actually seen the movie, only experienced it via popular culture) Chaoticfluffy (talk) 20:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Rest assured, she is indeed mutilating her genitalia.  She is thrusting the crucifix into her genitalia forcefully in a stabbing mition (using it as if it was a knife) to the point that it causes bleeding... it is far from anything that could be mistaken as masturbation.64.80.201.194 (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeesh. Ok, well, that settles that...*shudder* Chaoticfluffy (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Here's an article mentioning her role as the dub voice for Regan, from the Mercedes McCambridge article. http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-03-17-mercedes-mccambridge_x.htm --Addict 2006 00:17, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: I wonder if Mercedes McCambridge should be mentioned here?

message: I have not seen the sequel, so I have no idea how to correct this, but perhaps someone who has seen The Exorcist II can make a sentence from the following words "In the second film, it turns out that was owned because like other people, he was a healer and In the movie "Repossessed", she changes your identity from Regan MacNeil in Nancy Aglet."A Pedant (talk) 22:29, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 
Talk:Quatre Bornes

message: Indeed.  The city of Quatre Bornes is built on what was once a large sugar cane plantation marked out by four boundary stones. --Anonymous
"Quatres Bornes" does not seem to mean "four corners" in French but "four boundary stones" according to my dictionary. --Edcolins 20:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  French meaning 

message: On Google Maps, a region of the town is rather called Candos, however, I see several streets and places called Sodnac. (These are the same word read forwards and backwards. Looks like the town's inhabitants are funny people?) Joe Forster/STA (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candos or Sodnac?
Talk:G & R Wrenn

message: Hi - Although you mention the acquisition of the Company in December 2001 you do not have a link to the web-page of the Company G. & R. Wrenn Ltd - full details of the Company, the Book and CD-Rom issued about the Company and the Limited Edition products of the Company are available at www.gandr-wrenn.co.uk - perhaps you could add to the article the latest information about the Company and help readers to visit the Company site,
Many thanks,  Maurice Gunter - Director G. & R. Wrenn Ltd.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandr-wrenn.co.uk (talk • contribs) 20:39, 14 May 2006
: Done.  Jheald (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official site 
Talk:John Mason Neale

message: The assertion that "Brief life is here our portion," "To thee, O dear, dear country" were two of Neale's three best-known hymn texts is (at least from a contemporary American viewpoint) absurd on its face. It may have been true in Britain at the time of the 11th Britannica, but I don't think Wikipedia ought to be forcing its readers to time travel like that. I will see what I can do to update Mr. Neale (I made a start by mentioning his Christmas carols, which are surely better known than even "Jerusalem the Golden" in this day).--Haruo 20:44, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music
Talk:Niki (DOA)

message: Can someone please tell me why this article was created...? This lass is completely non-notable, has scant character development, and hasn't even been verified correctly for her history section. I'm strongly in favor of making a redirect to the List page. -ZeroTalk 20:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a redirect. -ZeroTalk 17:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability
Talk:LGS

message: * Leicester Grammar School is abbreviated to LGS to- should this become a disambiguation page rather than a redirect? EvocativeIntrigue 20:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Leicester Grammar School

message: This is a common abbreviation used to reference many schools. I've tagged it as a disambiguation page in the schools project, however it may fall within the scope of other projects. --tb240904 Talk Contribs 02:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Schools
Talk:Down in the Valley (film)

message: Isn't his name Harland with a d in the end and not harlan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.237.143 (talk • contribs) 07:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I think I can add a plot summary for this film (maybe even some other info from the DVD and website), but then I should remove the synopsis, correct?
And I'm pretty sure that Edward Norton's character's name is Harlan (no 'd').
Long Away May 21:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Can Probably Help 

message: It seems unlikely that Harlan shot himself in the leg out of grief. The self-inflicted wound appears to been a deliberate part of his plan to convince Lonnie that Wade was the attacker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.137.57 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Discussion 