Talk:Purananuru

message: This article has really improved.  A big round of applause to Venu62 for his work!  An interesting, but little-marked, feature of the purananuru is that it does not follow the 7 puraththinais of the Tolkāppiyam, but uses a very different system.  Some of the difference is just that a few thinais have different names (e.g. karanthai instead of vetchi) but there are also some substantive difference (relating to kanchi, I think), and there are even some poems belonging to akam thinais.  The article ought to discuss these points, I think.  I've not volunteered to add these myself because I've broken too many promises already about contributing to various articles, but I'll put it on my list of things to do if no-one else wants to take it up.  -- Arvind 15:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to stop making excuses and actually do something.  Feel free to improve on my description of the thinais as used in the purananuru. -- Arvind 22:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a few more lines on thurai, etc. I found an excellent online source for the commentary on Purananuru by Dr. U.V. Swaminatha Iyer : http://www.tamilvu.org/library/l1280/html/l1280bod.htm. It is part of the Tamil Virtual University website which has excellent resources for Tamil lit. - Parthi 00:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thinais in the purananuru and the [[Tolkappiyam]] 

message: the dates  mentioned earlier don't match the dates mentioned now. Wikiwhitewizard (talk) 15:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikiwhitewizard: Welcome to wikipedia. The earlier version was grossly misrepresenting the cited sources in places, when a source was cited. For example, the Hart source states 100-250 CE (last para, 4th line), and does not say "2nd century BCE and 3rd century CE". This sort of dishonesty and misrepresentation, or exceptional claims made without sources, unfortunately, is a systematic problem in some of our key Tamil-related wikipedia articles. A clean up is long due, per wikipedia community agreed content guidelines. On invocation, every compilation manuscript has one for Shiva. You are right, that in some cases, such as this anthology, it was likely added later at the start of the manuscripts as it was being copied in Shaiva monasteries and temples, from one century to the next. But, we need an RS that says so for Purananuru. If you help find one, we will add it here. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  the dating 

message: the first poem dedicated to Shiva is  considered to be a later addition to purananuru(i.e in the post-sangam era) . so, any information on that will help Wikiwhitewizard (talk) 15:41, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikiwhitewizard: Welcome to wikipedia. The earlier version was grossly misrepresenting the cited sources in places, when a source was cited. For example, the Hart source states 100-250 CE (last para, 4th line), and does not say "2nd century BCE and 3rd century CE". This sort of dishonesty and misrepresentation, or exceptional claims made without sources, unfortunately, is a systematic problem in some of our key Tamil-related wikipedia articles. A clean up is long due, per wikipedia community agreed content guidelines. On invocation, every compilation manuscript has one for Shiva. You are right, that in some cases, such as this anthology, it was likely added later at the start of the manuscripts as it was being copied in Shaiva monasteries and temples, from one century to the next. But, we need an RS that says so for Purananuru. If you help find one, we will add it here. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "invocation to shiva" 

message: Hello, I am a Tamil and Vedic Historian and I was recommended to edit such articles in the teahouse of Wikipedia. I started with Purananuru, Can we discuss why Ramayana's reference has a separate heading in this article but not for the story of Sibi Chakravarthy, the mention of Various death rituals, Vedic Sacrifices and many other informations. Why aren't there any references of Such important topics. May I know the reason. An article must have a summary of the text, but this article doesn't mention even the Nadukal properly. What about the other death rituals like shaving head, offering rice to a corpse, belives of tamils that there ancestors live in a separate world. Can we improve the article? Can I get help from Rasnaboy and Sundar. Sastri676 (talk) 04:39, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello User:Sastri676. Welcome to Wikipedia and please feel free to add contents with proper sources. Please make sure they do reflect what is said in the third-party sources, do not contain original research, and are unbiased point of view in their presentation. I'm sure the contribution from a history scholar would greatly improve the article. Glad to have you here and looking forward to working with you. Rasnaboy (talk) 07:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much. Sastri676 (talk) 07:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purananuru missing information  

message: I replaced a war scene with the name Purananuru (Book cover of Purananuru) is that fine? I placed the Nadukal image under the heading of death and rituals. Purananuru talks more about wars than Nadukal so I replaced it. Sastri676 (talk) 03:32, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that image may be a copyright violation and might soon be removed. Please check with other editors. Rasnaboy (talk) 08:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I mentioned it's not my work and added the source. Will it still be a copyright ? Sastri676 (talk) 09:37, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image