Talk:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram

message: === Quiz ===
When we list out achievements in quizzing let's mention only winner and runner-up finishes. Third place finishes, though creditable, need not be mentioned. --Loyolite 07:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra-curricular Activities 

message: When we list out achievements in quizzing let's mention only winner and runner-up finishes. Third place finishes, though creditable, need not be mentioned. --Loyolite 07:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quiz 

message: :I have merge the contents of Cheer Loyola's sons here and redirected as the school song doesn't really warrant an encyclopedic article of its own imo & also will be in context in the article about the school. Interesting though. Cheers.--Malcolmxl5 22:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheer Loyola's sons 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 10:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Please discuss in this forum before deleting anything. Chandrasekhar M. Nair is a notable alumnus of the school and his name has been included back. --Loyolite (talk) 11:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is Chandrasekhar M. Nair "notable"? A boy who studied in IIT and Stanford? A boy who stood first in a class of 45 in an ISC exam? Or that he won the Maths Olympiad once when he was in 11th? A teacher in a university? To add to the joke, there is a Wikipedia entry on Chandrasekhar Nair created by "Loyolite", in February 2008. Please do not devalue Wikipedia with such unjustified entries. And do not insult Santosh Sivan and others by adding Chandrasekhar's name in the list of notable alumni of Loyola. When Chandrasekhar does something extraordinary, add his name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.50.97 (talk) 15:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Chandrasekhar M. Nair is notable because of the reasons mentioned in the section titled "Chandrasekhar M. Nair as a notable Loyolite". If User 220.226.50.97 is aware of any other Loyolite who has done the same or better, he/she is requested to please include his name too in the list of prominent Loyolites. I believe there is no point comparing the achievements of Dr. Nair with those of Mr. Santosh Sivan. They are both in a class of their own. If User 220.226.50.97 has an objection about the existence of the article on Dr. Nair, he/she is requested to discuss that in the Talk section of that article. --Loyolite (talk) 11:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please discuss before deleting 

message: Chandrasekhar M. Nair is included as a notable alumnus of the school because:
* He is a scholar in the area of Information Engineering
* He has contributed to the science of Information Engineering, with at least eighteen publications, including the prestigious journal IEEE Transactions on Information Theory
* He won the Siemens and Philips prize awarded by the Indian Institute of Technology, Madras to the student with the best academic records in Electrical Engineering
* He was selected as a Graduate Research Fellow by the prestigious Stanford University in 2000
* He was among only thirteen persons in the world to be awarded the Microsoft Graduate Fellowship in 2004
* He won the first place in the Indian National Mathematics Olympiad in 1994, the lead-up regional events of which, are contested by thousands of students from across India
* The achievements described above have not been equalled or superseded by any other alumnus of Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram
--Loyolite (talk) 11:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please go ahead and maintain this page as you wish. To say that those "achievements have not been equalled or superseded" is a public display of your ignorance of other Loyolites' achievements, not a fact. It also shows the very low benchmarks you've set for "notable". The solution is not to add more examples of such "notables", but to have a list of truly notable people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.54.83 (talk) 17:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In Wikipedia, where people are free to edit encyclopedia articles, conflicts of opinion among different persons with honorable intentions usually happen. Wikipedia has processes for resolving such conflicts. I request User 220.226.54.83 to resort to those processes in case he has a dispute. User 220.226.54.83 alleges that I'm ignorant of other Loyolites who have equalled or superseded Dr. Nair's achievements. Maybe I am. I request User 220.226.54.83 to kindly enlighten me with the names of those gentlemen. --Loyolite (talk) 06:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chandrasekhar M. Nair as a notable Loyolite 

message: To prevent an undue increase in page length due to an increase in the number of references, the two-column layout earlier present has been replaced with a three-column layout.--Loyolite (talk) 08:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References now three-column 

message: On 13 June 2011, the Notable Alumni section of Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram was deleted on the ground: "Removed 'Notable Alumni' section - criteria for inclusion subjective". The judgement was fair (the criteria were subjective), but wasn't the action (deleting entire section) disproportionate? Some names on the list (like Santosh Sivan (1976), Sreenath Sreenivasan (1987), and Pulickel Ajayan (1977)) could have been retained on the basis of their long-standing biographical entries in the Wikipedia.
	 
May I hence propose the following rule: if a Loyola School alumnus has a Wikipedia entry which is at least 3 years old, his name (and link) can be included in the Notable Alumni section. This rule has objectively verifiable criteria, uses Wikipedia's peer review system itself to measure notability, and adds value to the article. 
"3 years" is subjective, but since fresh Wikipedia entries are monitored, a three-year old biographical entry is in itself proof that it has passed Wikipedia's test of "notability".
--ashokrchandran 08:50, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni: Criteria 

message: This page is a horrible mess right from the start. A lot of it looks like it was done by the school's PR arm or some uncoordinated groups of alumni or teachers. It's absolutely ridiculous because an overwhelming majority of the unsourced, many more are poorly written, and others are not properly sourced. The way sentences are framed is so weird, not only from the point of writing entries on Wikipedia, but also in general, suggesting a massive bias. It's an absolute shitshow. This paragraph should make clear what I mean 
:Since 1996, the higher secondary students have organized a talent show called LA Fest (abbreviation for Life and Arts Festival). This single day event has attracted participation from other schools in Kerala. The twenty first edition was held on 25 June 2016. Unlike many other high school talent shows in Kerala, LA Fest is organized entirely by students on a shoe-string budget with students, parents, the school, and some sponsors chipping in. Loyolites promote the event through social media like Facebook and YouTube. They have also released a Trivandrum version of "Happy" by Pharrell Williams.
I'm starting this talk page to create a discussion on how this entry should be maintained and edited. Right now, I've deleted one section ("Hindu Young World Quiz") and "Quiz" under Cultural Activities and moved them to the Achievements. I haven't deleted them outright in respect of the work other editors have put in, in sourcing some of the claims. However, I do like to point out that a lot of this seems frivolous for a school entry. There needs to be some kind of consensus on what is appropriate for this entry or else this page will become an advertisement for the school.
Would be interested in knowing your thoughts. EvonMusk (talk) 15:50, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The state of this page - plus a discussion to (informally) set the structure of the entry