Talk:Phillip Jensen

message: this starts by referring to Phillip Jensen as "very Rev". Is this an actual title, or is someone being silly?
Mihoshi 01:33, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey. :-) 202.59.19.66 12:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Very Reverend?

message: What is the correct context refered to in this article? If we need to satisfy NPOV, then I think we should state it. - 202.59.19.66 12:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct context

message: "Phillip Jensen told a April 14, 2006 service at St Andrew's Cathedral that Islam denies some of the Christian beliefs about Jesus. Islam views Jesus as a prophet but does not believe he was the son of God who died on Good Friday to save humanity from its sins and was resurrected on Easter Sunday. "Now that Islam has become more common in our society, you need to know the difference between Christianity and Islam," he said. "For the Koran, and therefore Islam, denies that Christ dies." http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/islam-and-christianity-cant-both-be-right/2006/04/14/1144521506471.html"
Why is this in the article? It's not exceptional in any way, and is given with no comment.  --Sambostock 10:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Islam/Christianity

message: The links at the base of this are all favourable to the Sydney Anglican point of view (nothing wrong with this in itself - just lacks balance) - so I will try to added some to balance them. Likewise I shall look at the text to provide some further NPOV references.
Cor Unum 12:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure exactly which parts fo the text aren't NPOV... can't comment on the links. However, see this link from St. Andrew's Cathedral. They write: "You can find out more about Phillip on Wikipedia. We don't know who wrote the article, but most of the information appears to be balanced." - Ta bu shi da yu 23:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV??

message: What is the point of mentioning what clothes he wears? It sounds as though he wears much the same clothing as many other evangelical Anglical ministers in Australia. Why not say he wears leather shoes? As for the Surplus being canonically required, it appears there are many caveats that allow the surplus not to be worn, and even encourage the hood to be worn. So again what is the point? Echinoman 10:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clothing

message: There are a few claims in this piece that are not supported with any reference, and indeed for which it is difficult to be sure what kind of evidence could even substantiate them. I am thinking particularly of the following:
1. "Jensen and his "Campus Bible Study" revolutionised student ministry."
Without saying how, or giving any source, this claim is too vague to be particularly useful.
2. "The result was a large number of conversions, large student gatherings at UNSW and the growth of St Matthias' Church from a group of 20–30 in 1977 to well over 1000 by the mid 1990s."
While it is quite possible to document membership numbers of these organisations (though the article does not do so), the causes of these shifts are likely to be complex and multifactorial. Attributing them to a single person, however charismatic, is oversimplified. Furthermore, the claim that the conversions can be attributed to Jensen is one that I suspect the Dean would reject himself (being Calvinist, he is more likely to attribute conversions to the work of the Holy Spirit).
3. "It was the strong growth of the MTS strategy in other universities and churches throughout the 1980s and 1990s that saw student numbers at Moore Theological College grow from around 150 in 1985 to over 400 in 2004"
Again, a causal claim regarding a complex trend. Without supporting evidence, it amounts to original research.EthicsEdinburgh (talk) 14:55, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

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