Talk:Bhimbetka rock shelters

message: I have questions about some of the statements made in the section 
"Rock art & paintings". To begin with, it suggests an age of 12,000 years for the oldest paintings, but this is at odds with the number given in the article's intro, which is 9,000 years. This really needs to be sorted out. 
Another question is regarding the use of the terms "dye" and "pigment", which seem to have been used interchangeably, as if they are essentially the same thing. But, in fact, they are quite distinct, as can be seen from a quick look at the linked articles. I am rather doubtful that any dyes were used in the paintings -- my educated guess is that they were done entirely with pigments. Again, this point needs to be clarified. Hopefully, the editor(s) who wrote this paragraph can resolve the issue. Cgingold 13:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please change, correct, or remove whatever unsourced material you find in the article. That is a perfectly correct action for you to take and will result in an improved article.  Sincerely,  --Mattisse 13:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have made changes & corrections already, if I knew enough about the subject to do so. I'm hoping that somebody who has researched the subject will follow through on these issues that I've raised. Cgingold 15:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions re Rock art & paintings 

message: with Madhya Pradesh workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Madhya Pradesh or one of its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the irrelavent categories to the article   --  TinuCherian     (Wanna Talk?)   - 10:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Madhya Pradesh workgroup Addition 

message: Can someone please clarify if the dating for the petroglyphs is correct.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.219.178 (talk) 00:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I too second it. Not enough clarity about scholarly sources and dates.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.115.154 (talk) 17:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

message: There is evidence of Acheulean occupation. However, Wakanker's work is disputed:"Some of the best-known Late Acheulean assemblages in north-central India come from Bhimbetka (Misra 1978). where hundreds of rock-shelters (many with rock paintings) are situated in a hilly and forested area in Madhya Pradesh. Wakanker (1973) initially proposed that the Acheulean hori- zon at one of the excavated rock-shelters was underlain by a "pebble-tool horizon, both being separated by a sterile layer, implying possible technological progression between the two traditions. However, subsequent excavations by Misra (1985) at Shelter III F-23 did not support Wakanker's claims for a pre-Acheulean industry in this area. Sourcebook of Paleolithic Transitions. We should be sticking to archaeological sources for this, by the way. Dougweller (talk) 15:03, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There are some more sources, that puts 300,000 years as the date. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: More recent archaeological reports? Or? Dougweller (talk) 16:41, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:   From 2008.  2011, check out. Bladesmulti (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Missed all this. One of them says mesolithic on page 53 and page 55 says more than 10000 years ago. The other is a book on climate change, clearly not an RS. The Bradshaw Foundation says "Excavations carried out at Bhimbetka have revealed occupational deposits ranging from the Acheulian to Historical times. As to the art, the three main periods recognized by most Indian researchers (Mesolithic roughly 12,000 to 5,000 BP, Chalcolithic (rougly 5,000 to 2,500 BP) and Historical, from 2,500 BP onwards) are present on the shelter walls." Which doesn't match our article. Dougweller (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Brought previous lead back I will definitely look into these as well as other potential sources and let you know. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest occupation 

message: I've blocked a couple of socks and did a CU block on the latest and obvious account. Doug Weller talk 19:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, . I filed @RFPP, as it was still on-going, but perhaps you would if it continues .— —SerialNumber54129...speculates 20:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Socks 

message: , I hope you agree that the tag should stand while we are discussing the sources. Doug Weller talk 16:48, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable sources tag 

message: The article states that the Bhimbetka petroglyphs are the "oldest in the world", giving a date of 10,000 years ago. However, the famous Lascaux paintings date to 17,000 years ago. I've also seen sources stating that some artifacts from the cave date to 700,000 years ago. Which is true? 2001:4453:5F7:6400:5DF7:43E1:D83E:4F5D (talk) 10:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you're right. I've removed this false claim to antiquity (+ badly sourced). Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 12:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinformation?