Talk:Nadia Boulanger

message: I removed Maurice Ravel from the list of her students.  Ravel was 12 years older than Nadia and no teacher-student relationship is mentioned in either the 1980 Grove or the 2002 Grove.  She did teach a lot of people though.  Please give a source if you think you're sure.  Antandrus  (talk) 17:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: EVERYTHING in a Wiki article needs to be sourced - that's policy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.50.145 (talk) 12:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

text: First, the addition is not sourced. Second, if the person isn't notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, then it certainly doesn't belong in the lead even if it were reliably sourced. The list is already too long anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:23, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I remember reading somewhere (either in a music encyclopedia or a biography of Philip Glass) that Nadia was related to Mozart somehow or that she was some link in a chain of composers.  Does anyone have any information to reference on this? -- Suso 03:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More significant ancestry than shown 

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 07:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: A quick run down the discs under "Boulanger in an English online classical music store reveals seven CDs devoted to one or both of the sisters. Anyone see any problems with adding them to the Discography? Guddle (talk) 05:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add them. Badagnani (talk) 22:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: It seems ridiculous to make the words "composer", "conductor", and "music" into links to Wikipedia articles about those very general subjects, within this very specific article. Anyone looking up "Nadia Boulanger" is likely to have at least a vague idea what those words mean, and making them into links just fills the article with irrelevant blue colored text. This is almost as bad as making any date into a link to an article about all the other things that have happened on that date.
70.249.215.141 (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, and removed. Ceoil sláinte 13:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: LinkMania

message: I think the following claim should be removed: "It is probably because of her many American students and her constant promotion of American music, that she is more valued by composers from outside of France than by those from her native country".  The sentence in nonsensical (did the author perhaps mean "is more valued by American composers"?)  Either way, the claim is not fundamented, and misleading since Nadia is highly valued in France and acknowledged, as far as I can tell, far more often than in the US (e.g. on Radiofrance one can often hear "this piece was composed by [...] who studied under Nadia Boulanger"). 12.197.13.46 (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I took it out. The page needs lots of work. Ceoil sláinte 00:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: After much work by User:Tim riley, this article is nearly B-class.  One thing that is required to advance it to B: The introduction needs to be expanded so that it provides an overview of the entire article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:47, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've dealt with the lead, but C-class will still do, I think. - Tim riley (talk) 21:46, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reassessment

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message: "Some of her students, including Copland, Quincy Jones, Denoe Leedy, Walter Piston, George Peter Tingley, Roy Harris, Virgil Thomson, Louise Talma, Michel Legrand,Charles Fox, Joe Raposo, Astor Piazzolla, Philip Glass, Russell Woollen, Robert Shafer, and Elliott Carter established a new school of composition based on her teaching."
I don't think (having studied with one of her students and read Rosenstiel, among others) that there could be said to be a School of Nadia Boulanger, either created by her or subsequently by her students.  The sheer variety of composers who studied with her and the vast differences in approach she took with each one, surely precludes such a conclusion.  I think the original idea of a Boulanger School may have come from André Hodeir in 'Since Debussy' which describes such a School in derogatory terms.
I would suggest the sentence be removed or reworded to provide a more balanced view?
Pgbrown (talk) 11:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the sentence as it was not supported by the source. Thanks for pointing it out.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nadia Boulanger School 

message: I've rewritten the article and would welcome feedback!  Please visit my subpage to read it: User:Pgbrown/Nadia_Boulanger
Pgbrown 17:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have scanned it and it looks good!  I would suggest you copy / paste it into the main space article so other editors can use the diff function to see what you changed.... possibly a section at a time. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 19:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Someone (an IP address) has added 'pianist' to the first sentence of the lead.  The initial description of NB has given me some trouble in trying to sum her up succinctly.  NB was never really a performing pianist, although she accompanied Dinu Lipatti on some recordings and gave a few solo piano concerts in the very early years of her career.  She played organ more frequently and premiered Copland's organ concerto.
I don't really like what's there "[NB] was a French composer, conductor, pianist and teacher who taught many of the leading composers and musicians of the 20th century.", but I can't see how to improve it.
Grateful for any assistance.  pgbrown (talk)  12:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Did a slight addition moving "pianist and organist" to a second sentence. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 19:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent addition to lead 

message: I reverted an edit by pinkmlover to add Idil Biret to the lead for this article as I do not consider her notable enough for the lead.  My edit has now been reverted, so I would like to ask for input from other editors on whether Biret should be included in the lead. pgbrown (talk)  13:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idil Biret 

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