Talk:Guitar Hero II/Archive 2

message: I was curious as to whether or not the NTSC version of GHII still had unlockable videos a la the first GH, as the PAL version does not have these unlockable extras. Every other unlockable is still in the game, however.
Can someone confirm this, and perhaps put it into the Trivia section if true?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.79.40.251 (talk • contribs) 
:That sucks if it is true. It is best to integrate such things into the prose though.--Drat (Talk) 22:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true that the NTSC version still has the unlockable videos, and while it's a forum post and probably isn't worthy of being cited as a source, this has several people stating that PAL doesn't have the videos. GammaShade 15:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PAL Version without Unlockable Videos? 

message: Upon playing the demo version of GHII in a Best Buy store I noticed that, on the loading screen of the game, RedOctane has announced that a new version of Guitar Hero will be released in Summer 2008, called Accordion Hero.  Currently, the game is only available in Germany and is owned by a "Bavarian videogame satirist" company by the name of Schadenfreude Interactive.
This description comes from the Schadenfreude website, where you can also find photos of the accordion controller, along with screenshots of the song list and gameplay: 
Hit all the right notes and get the crowd on their feet waving their beer steins in unison - you are an accordion hero! Includes all the great accordion melodies you've ever gotten really, really drunk to...from Ein Munchen Steht Ein Hofbrauhaus to Rock You Like A Hurricane.
 Laviesurmars 20:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future Releases 

message: In response to the plea posted on Wikipedia:Third opinion, I have to say that cross-linking between Wikipedia articles is not spam. On any song article, it is appropriate to give a brief mention that the song is licensed for a particular video game. =Axlq 15:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he should familiarise himself with Wikipedia:Ownership of articles as well. He seems to have taken it upon himself to arbitrarily decide what is appropriate to be included in articles he created or contributed heavily to. The Kinslayer 15:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: I've been hearing that the version of Jordan in GHII is the first time Buckethead has recorded a studio version of the song; previously, it had only been played live in concert.  Can someone confirm or deny this?  It sounds like an interesting tidbit of info.  Djseifer 22:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, according to the game, he recorded it just for the game. I don't think it specifies if he wrote it just for the game.--Agent Aquamarine 03:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying that he wrote it specifically for the game; I'm well aware that it's a staple song at his concerts.  I'm just saying that I believe this is the first non-live recording of Jordan ever. Djseifer 09:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed.  Buckethead has been playing variations on the "Jordan" riff for years at his concerts, however this particular composition was written and studio-recorded specifically for GH2.  KyuzoGator 14:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jordan 

message: I think there is a large enough amount of players based on the Guitar Hero 2 forum that merit a technical complications and issues article for Guitar Hero 2. The game has a problem with freezing during songs, and then when it starts up again, the audio is no longer in sync. Some people have experienced unusually long load times, as well as freezing on the menus. Red Octane has not released any official word on these issues, but some customer service representatives have suggested that this issue is relegated to old, fat PS2s, although people have reported having the same problems with the slim lines. Other customer service representatives have stated the disc is defective and should be exchanged. The problem seems to stem from the way the media is streamed directly from the dvd in real time, and perhaps the hardware cannot keep up, or the disc was stamped poorly on faulty or cheap media preventing a "good" read. Users with problems are suggested to email Red Octane with the model number of their PS2, the stamper number from the game disc, which guitar controller are you using, the level of difficulty they're playing on, single or multi-player, songs or tiers where the problem occures, whether or not your TV is HD or not, and whether or not you've tried the Calibrate Lag option.
Here is some reference material:
Video of a player encountering a problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_cLBuEoZc
One of many threads where people are discussing problems.
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=8739
Red Octane site for this technical issue.
http://www.redoctane.us/support-center/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=120
MegaLegoChai 01:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical Complications 

message: It should be mentioned that the name of the Boston venue, "The Rat Cellar", is likely a reference to the famous Rathskellar club (also known as "The Rat") in Boston's Kenmore Square that closed in 1997. SkyMan111 21:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless we can cite a source, it's just speculation. It'd be hard to put that into the article without using weasel words. -- Kesh 04:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I work at Harmonix and I can confirm that The Rat Cellar is indeed a reference to the old Rathskeller (note spelling), affectionately referred to as the Rat, in Kenmore Square.  That probably doesn't count as a source by Wikipedia standards, though. Dfan 22:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately not. :) If you could slip that into a future interview or something, though, that would get it published and make it verifiable. -- Kesh 23:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Rat Cellar

message: The Midwest High School venue is named "Nilbog".  It is a reference to the cult horror film Troll 2 where a family visits the town of Nilbog.  The movie features the famous line "Nilbog is Goblin spelled backwards". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.127.108.170 (talk) 23:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle of the Bands

message: I asked for a fact-cite for the statement that Guitar Hero II would have a multiplatform release in "early spring 2007". The article linked to doesn't give any date more specific than "next year" (i.e. 2007). User:PenguinSamurai64 took down the {fact} flag and put in a link to the Gamespot article at [], which was already linked to in the article--but that article does not say "early spring", which is the fact I'm asking to have checked. So I'm gonna put that flag back in, if'n it's okay... -- Narsil 21:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got a friend who's been trying to convince me that Sony got the sole rights to Guitar Hero II, and that there won't be a multiplatform release at all until Guitar Hero III. He says he heard it on 1up.com. Any merit to this? Albino Bebop 02:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your friend appears to be mistaken. There are a few reports about the upcoming Xbox 360 version of GH2, including picturese of the new controller. See here, here and here. Should probably cite those in the main article as well. -- Kesh 02:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I asked him where on 1up he heard it; the best answer I can get is on a podcast from a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone listen to them or know the Episode? Albino Bebop 04:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's mistaken. Activision have the publishing rights for Guitar Hero now, not Sony (who never had publishing rights). Check gamespot for the various stories. The 360 version of GHII was officially confirmed months ago. The Kinslayer 08:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Early Spring 2007" multiplatform date? 

message: I understand what is trying to be accomplished by listing all the instruments out- this game is a tribute and homage to rock music in various ways. But still, I don't quite think it's something that should be included in an encyclopedia article. A game guide, absolutely. But in the big picture, I'm not sure it's important enough (guitars don't actually affect the gameplay anyways). Y2kcrazyjoker4 18:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I mean, all the real guitars had articles, but lists look ugly, and since a good chunk of this article is a list already, the last thing it really needs is another list. But maaybe it could be said that guitars officially appear in GH2 in each guitars article? The Kinslayer 20:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to disagree with you, but drop the issue.  You're being kind of selective about what's important enough to include.  It goes along with our same arguments for two-way song linking in the article.  While they don't affect gameplay, guitars (like the songs) are a big part of the game's appeal and generate cross interest in other topics.  I'd even say some of the finishes are notable (the Zakk Wylde Les Paul).  I'll grant that they don't have the same impact as the songs, but guitarists especially will appreciate the on-screen rendition of the real world instrument.  With two-thirds of the featured instruments already having wiki articles for those specific models (I was considering filling in all the orange links), there is no doubt that they were selected precisely for their popularity.  (Or maybe in the case of the Corvus for it's peculiarity).  :-)  Incidentally, several of the guitar pages, like Gibson Les Paul Doublecut are looking for links.Hoof Hearted 20:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we should discount the guitars entirely, but we can't just copy the descriptions from the games as thats probably copyvio, and I personally don't think this article should have another list, as the song as pretty much enough lisy for any article, and I doubt an article like 'List of guitars in Guitar Hero II' would last very long before it got deleted. Any other ways it could be done? The Kinslayer 21:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It would probably be better to put the list into a See also link to another article. I agree it could be useful to have, but lists tend to make articles a bit messy to read, so it shouldn't be in the main article. The trouble is that the guitars themselves don't have a real affect on gameplay, so it's hard to expand such an article enough to be encyclopedic. -- Kesh 21:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't want to prolong this, but listing guitars is no more of a copy vio than listing songs.  And neither is a copy vio IMO.  You're walking a fine line between what should and shouldn't be included.  You're right that a 'List of guitars in Guitar Hero II' article should NOT exist - of course I'd argue for a merge.  I for one don't mind lists and feel they can be easily skipped over if you want to get to the meat of an article.  I'm not saying the list needs to be in the middle of the page, but I feel this article is lacking (just a bit) without mention of the specific guitars.  However, I recognize the article doesn't belong to any one person, so I yield.  Hoof Hearted 22:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I could live with that, because like you said there are notable guitars such as Zak Wyldes in the game. But I can already hear people screaming "WP:NOT a game guide" and "fancruft" in AfD if we try something like that. But what hell, one of Wikis mottos is 'Be Bold' for crying out loud! I support this. The Kinslayer 22:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need this info in such a level of detail. Why can't a simple prose section suffice with a summary? A seperate article that would be little more than a set of mindless lists isn't worth it, as you can't really expand much on the items (like having a sentence or two of decent prose per guitar). Remember, WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of facts.--Drat (Talk) 23:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Drat. A simple paragraph stating, "Some notable guitars included in the game are (examples)..." -- Kesh 23:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I got an idea. What about a sentence or two that is something along the lines of, "Guitar Hero II features licensed equipment from real music equipment companies. Featured guitars included the Gibson Explorer, Gibson SG, Gibson Les Paul, and other models by Gibson." We could mention 4-6 guitars in a sentence like that, but avoid a long laundry list of unlockable equipment. Y2kcrazyjoker4 23:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine.  By the way, venues and characters don't affect gameplay either (although they have different encore and star power animations), yet they're listed. Hoof Hearted 13:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but those are comparatively small, as opposed to a honking great big list guitars and finishes. They should probably be replaced with prose sections though.--Drat (Talk) 13:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Now things look much nicer. Good work, Hoof Hearted!--Drat (Talk) 15:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I'm not 100% satisfied, but I do like how the prose offers explanations as to why certain instruments are used as opposed to what instruments were used.  Any bets for how long it will take for someone to re-institute the lists?  :-P Hoof Hearted 16:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it wont be me, I reckon you've done a good job with the edits! The Kinslayer 16:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Put an external link to an online game FAQ with this info. Kaleja 00:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 
Unlockable
 Featured instruments

message: An idea just came to me.  What about an article for all Store Inventory in Guitar Hero.  It could list all guitars, finishes, characters, outfits, etc. along with the costs or unlockable prerequisites.  That way, some of the dreaded lists ;-) could be moved out of the main article.  Could this work for everybody?  Hoof Hearted 22:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could live with that, because like you said there are notable guitars such as Zak Wyldes in the game. But I can already hear people screaming "WP:NOT a game guide" and "fancruft" in AfD if we try something like that. But what hell, one of Wikis mottos is 'Be Bold' for crying out loud! I support this. The Kinslayer 22:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need this info in such a level of detail. Why can't a simple prose section suffice with a summary? A seperate article that would be little more than a set of mindless lists isn't worth it, as you can't really expand much on the items (like having a sentence or two of decent prose per guitar). Remember, WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of facts.--Drat (Talk) 23:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Drat. A simple paragraph stating, "Some notable guitars included in the game are (examples)..." -- Kesh 23:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I got an idea. What about a sentence or two that is something along the lines of, "Guitar Hero II features licensed equipment from real music equipment companies. Featured guitars included the Gibson Explorer, Gibson SG, Gibson Les Paul, and other models by Gibson." We could mention 4-6 guitars in a sentence like that, but avoid a long laundry list of unlockable equipment. Y2kcrazyjoker4 23:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine.  By the way, venues and characters don't affect gameplay either (although they have different encore and star power animations), yet they're listed. Hoof Hearted 13:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but those are comparatively small, as opposed to a honking great big list guitars and finishes. They should probably be replaced with prose sections though.--Drat (Talk) 13:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Now things look much nicer. Good work, Hoof Hearted!--Drat (Talk) 15:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I'm not 100% satisfied, but I do like how the prose offers explanations as to why certain instruments are used as opposed to what instruments were used.  Any bets for how long it will take for someone to re-institute the lists?  :-P Hoof Hearted 16:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it wont be me, I reckon you've done a good job with the edits! The Kinslayer 16:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Put an external link to an online game FAQ with this info. Kaleja 00:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Resolution?

message: When you go to the Harmonix Arena, and the camera starts to zoom up towards the guitarist, if you look to the right of the screen while it's doing this, you'll soon see a beaten up taxi cab for a few seconds. If you look closely enough, there's an ad on the roof that reads, "Guitar Hero X." 
Just a small tidbit for the Trivia section. Arasmith 19:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Hero X 

message: *Should the list of tracks be updated for confirmed tracks available on newer versions of GH2 such as the 360 version, which this article () says that some new tracks include "Hush" by Deep Purple, "Dead!" from My Chemical Romance and "Billion Dollar Babies" by Alice Cooper. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.119.252.174 (talk) 22:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracks for newer versions of the game 

message: I don't know how to go about editing to fix this, but the basses are available as soon as you unlock them, you don't have to purchase them through the store. The article currently states that they are available in the store.
207.172.152.212 08:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Store correction 

message: Guitar Hero: 80's Edition was just announced in EGM (as cited  and ), but since this page is under some sort of protection, I'll hope someone else can put this in the future games section (if they find this info satisfactory). Deepgrave 17:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What? The page is not protected at all. Then again, this announcement really doesn't belong here, as it appears that 80's Edition is a separate title. It could be a stub of its own, but there's really not enough info for WP:V. -- Kesh 17:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the subject of GH: 80s Edition, is the currently cited source really credible enough to justify the assertion that the title will be released in June? The article lends itself no credence by failing to source its own claims, and I've yet to hear another gaming site back up the assertion. C. M. Reed 22:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  80's Edition 

message: I think a useful trivia factoid is that Dave Grohl is the only artist featured twice in the game.  He is the guitarist and singer for the Foo Fighters' Monkey Wrench as well as the drummer in Nirvana's Heart Shaped Box. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MisterBlondeVT (talk • contribs) 05:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you ask me, there is no such thing as a "useful" trivia factiod.--Drat (Talk) 07:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

text: And besides, if you download "Bark at the Moon" on the 360 version you get Ozzy Osbourne twice (the other is "War Pigs").  KyuzoGator 18:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, it's Black Sabbath twice (War Pigs and Iron Man) DarkSaber2k 18:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the lead singer of Black Sabbath is....(wait for it, folks)  KyuzoGator 19:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't work that way, Bark at the Moon is by Ozzy Osbourne when he was on his solo career, War Pigs and Iron Man were by Black Sabbath when Ozzy Osbourne was with them. Put it this way: You wouldn't say an Iron Maiden track is Bruce Dickinsons just because he's the lead singer, would you? So in addition to Ozzy Osbourne you gotta include Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward, as they performed War Pigs and Iron Man. Meaning more than Dave Grohl has been featured twice. Ozzy personally makes it in 3 times, but is only named once (for Bark at the Moon). But more importantly than any of this is that they aren't actually featured, as all but 2 of the main setlist songs in the game are covers, so technically Dave Grohl, Ozzy et al haven't been featured at all, only their songs have.DarkSaber2k 09:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So tell me, where exactly is Dave Grohl mentioned anywhere in the game?  My point was that the original "trivia factoid" wasn't really all that interesting or unique.  If you re-read my last comment, I said "you get Ozzy twice" not "you get two songs by Ozzy"  KyuzoGator 12:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Artist Count

message: Before I post anything, Red Octane has finally issued a response about the technical issues plaguing GH2. Patty Simonelli, the customer service manager for RO has reported to the Better Business Bureau that RO will issue a refund to users who cannot get Guitar Hero 2 to play on their systems and can fax her proof of purchase. What can/should be posted about this? MegaLegoChai 21:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be best to give it a day or so until news sites pick up on this and post about it. That way, we can cite secondary sources (rather than the primary source of the press release). If nothing happens on that front in a day or two, a cite with the press release would work. Either way, it should be a short section to the effect of, "some copies reportedly would not run, a refund is offered, (cite)." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kesh (talk • contribs) 21:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Info For Technical Issues 

message: Someone keeps adding 10 more new songs in addition to the known cited 10 songs that the 360 release has.  As I've seen no information that says these songs exist, and the person that keeps adding them is not citing their source, I'm rv them, though if anyone has any idea about these possible new songs, please please add a cited reference (so that I don't feel silly removing them) If the list is false, it's vandalism (as the song list is definitely reads like a fan wish list and not a likely list) --Masem 21:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need confirmation on "additional songs" for 360 release 

message: In actuality, there is no SG Bass. Including such an instrument is a careless mistake on Harmonix's part. The actual instrument is and EB-3, also made by Gibson. Should this be noted or left alone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nishaddatta (talk • contribs) 02:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It'd be original research without a source.--Drat (Talk) 05:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibson SG Bass 

message: Just got the new March issue of OXM and it got a 9.5 out of 10. I can't scan it or anything, so could someone find some way to confirm this?
75.68.199.101 04:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cite the review (see WP:CITE). You wouldn't be able to link a scan anyway, as that would be a copyright violation.--Drat (Talk) 04:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OXM US review 

message: This is a Dragonforce song that is somehow in GH2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV0qM6-HLuk
    As far as I know there are no Dragonforce songs in the game... anyone know what the deal is? There is no mention of this song in the article or on the talk page. Perhaps it is a "lost track" in GH2 similar to Tripollette in GH? --Ihmhi 22:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a song hacked into the game by a group of coders and what have you. See also this part of the talk page. GammaShade 05:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragonforce Song 

message: So, what kind of guitar is the white wireless one that comes with this game (for ps2)? Shouldn't that be included in the article? --Xanitross 02:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the same question goes to the 360 white guitar, wire or wireless? Please include this information in the article --MarioV 20:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added.  FWIW, neither RedOctane supplied guitar has wireless abilities; there may be PS2 third party ones that support it, but unless MS releases their wireless specs, there will likely never be a 360 wireless guitar. --Masem 23:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, actually, while it wasn't sold with the game, RedOctane DOES sell a wireless guitar for the PS2, which looks similar to (but not quite the same as) the 360 X-Plorer controller.  In fact, it was rather prominently featured in the PS2 version's TV commercial (the "You Really Got Me" commercial).  It was available as an aftermarket accessory from RedOctane starting about a month after GH2's PS2 release.  Rdfox 76 13:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wireless Guitar 

message: is it really going to come out for the wii. whats the source and when is it going to comePikasneez27 02:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also wonder about this. The source says that Guitar Hero will be coming, but not Guitar Hero II specifically. I am inclined to think that Guitar Hero III, and not II will go to Wii, but I can't be sure. 74.38.67.189 23:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Whats Starcraft got to do with Guitar Hero? The Wii version of GH has been confirmed officially. DarkSaber2k 13:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: for the wii

message: If you look at other articles on recent PS2 games, they will usually list something that states compatibility with the PS3. Considering this game was one of the largest question marks concerning PS3 compatibility, does anyone here think it's worth mentioning the current state of this issue in this article? Roguegeek (talk) 18:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Might be worth waiting for the EU launch of the PS3 launch first, then we can put in a complete worldview of the issue (assuming there is an issue). The Kinslayer 14:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say wait to put it in, as the software PS2 emu on the PS3 for the EU release is yet unknown.  On the NA version, you can put GH(1 and 2) into the system and it will run, but you can't use the guitar controller because it lacks a button to trigger the PS3 overmenu to change the control from analog to digital.  However, there is a device coming from Nyko that is specifically meant to allow this switch for GH and other specality controllers. --Masem 15:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I saw that, but that gave me the idea that the PS3 issues should be noted, which I've done on the main GH (series) article. --Masem 01:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PS3 compatibility 

message: I take it they didn't just include all the original versions of the songs is too keep royalty fees down, correct?
:I don't know if royalties are any less if you're playing a cover instead of an original, but the main reason is because they actually had to separate out the vocal tracks from the guitar tracks.  You'll notice that the bass keeps on playing even if you screw up, only the lead drops out.  Same with the drums and the vocals.  They had to record those separately, and they're not going to be able to get all the bands to come in and re-record them.  In fact, of the regular bands (not bonus songs), I think only Primus did.  The fact that they did that implies to me that they would have wanted all the original bands to come back if possible.  WLGades 10:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Janes Addiction did as well, but Primus and them didn't come in and re-record, they just let them use the original master recordings. The Kinslayer 10:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, alright.  So I assume most of the bands didn't give up the masters.  WLGades 10:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the only reason I can think of is that too much was wanted for the master copies, so they used their own versions. The Kinslayer 10:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It's quite a bit cheaper to hire some musicians from WaveGroup to record a cover version than it is to lisence the master track. ColbeagleTheEagle 22:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royalties 

message: I feel kind of silly even bringing up something this trivial, but if you look at the More Stats page in the game, it lists "SP Phrases" as the official term for instances of star power in the song. GammaShade 17:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, ok. Sorry about that then! The Kinslayer 17:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfectly all right. Just didn't want this to turn into an edit war. GammaShade 18:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phases / Phrases 

message: There is a new set list for Guitar Hero II for the Xbox 360 - I was wondering does anyone have it? if they do should we put it in the article?
McDonaldsGuy 16:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's already the new song list exclusive for the 360 in the article.  As no one has the game yet, it's a bit hard to put what the new set list(s) may be...--Masem 00:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The set list has been changed dramatically though. For example, Strutter and Heart-Shaped Box are in Opening Licks while Mother and Tonight are in Amp-Warmers. So should we also put the Xbox 360's set list as well? McDonaldsGuy 06:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason why not, save that right now, without the game's release or a source with the new complete set list, it doesn't seem to make sense.  If it is added, it probably should be incorporated into a table with the ps2 set list as to keep the general page length low. --Masem 08:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guitar Hero II Xbox 360 Set List

message: :I myself think that the PS2 Version and the 360 version of this game should have seperate articles, I get annoyed reading the the Xbox 360 game and it's not out yet! Plus, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PICTURE OF THE PS2 GAME COVER!!! THE 360 ONE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE UP THERE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.90.28.253 (talk • contribs) 
:There's no need for two separate articles for the same game on two different systems.  One could argue that both covers should be on the page, but it's not really needed, it's only there for show. --Masem 02:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, seperate articles for ported games goes against a long wikipedia precedent.  Many video game articles cover several platforms and even include arcade console units.  Check out Pac-Man, Contra, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, and Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas.  As far as pictures go, I personally preferred the darker background of the PS2 cover, but feel either one represents the game.  Hoof Hearted 17:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Seprate Articles

message: Please keep the last bullet in the "Multiplayer" section.  The Xbox 360 version of the game will support online Multiplayer at some future date, however as of right now the option in the main menu is grayed out.  People from Activision have stated that they are still developing the Multiplayer function and they want to make sure they get it "just right."  I will provide a citiation as soon as I find one.  KyuzoGator 18:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer in 360 Version 

message: I've seen various places talk about a Wii version, but there's nowhere confirming that a DS version is on the way. Is there official Confirmation of this? peterismeok 20:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only "confirmation" has been that Activision has said they are working on a Wii version.  They have not disclosed if this would be a GH2 port or if they are referring to GH3.  Also, there has been no announcement on what the control scheme for the Wii would be (separate controller or integration with the Wii remote).  Nothing has been said about a DS version, although in my opinion a "guitar" game in which you are tapping a screen wouldn't be very interesting. KyuzoGator 21:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, but if Activision released a "portable" accessory that had the fret buttons and strum bar...that could be really awesome.  KyuzoGator 14:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nintendo DS Version? 

message: The link in reference 41 (end of first paragraph in the Technical issues section) is broken. The resulting page says "ERROR: Invalid article." on the redoctane web page. Can someone please correct the link or provide an alternate citation? Without a valid reference for this paragraph, it would be a candidate for deletion as unsupported claims. Truthanado 16:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: RedOctane's website has had lots of technical problems since the launch of GH2 for the 360 (I was unable to even load their home page a few days ago).  I read the quote regarding RO's response to the whammy bar issues, it is legitimate. KyuzoGator 17:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken reference link 41 

message: Just my suggestion here: yes, I agree with the masses that the song price is too high per song.  However, saying that in the article is too POV.  However, I suspect in a few days or a week, we will have some top-tier gaming site articles with responses from either RedOctane or MS that will have a brief debate of the costs or similar details of this debate.  Thus, I strongly suggest until we have a good 'key' references that we can pull quotes from, we just report the true facts (each pack costs 500 points, end of story). --Masem 06:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like this pricing controversy would fit best into the critical reception area, as it's gotten to be a fairly big deal over the wires. While no major video game websites have made comments on it (aside from the blogs of writers at IGN or somewhere), notable people like Tycho from PA have called the move insulting and ridiculous. Maybe once we get feedback from the professionals or something, it can get worked into the article. --Omex 13:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, now that Major Nelson has commented on the issue, there's good 'unbiased' points to put into the article.  Moved what was there and put into the Reception section.  --Masem 03:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price controversy with XBL MP content 

message: This section is starting to get out if hand again. We don't need to list every nod and reference to bands or songs.--Drat (Talk) 07:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the toomuchtrivia tag, since it's not completely out of hand yet, but added two cautionary invisicomments to help let editors know to be careful about their additions to that segment, and help maintain some semblance of logical organization.  Hopefully, this'll do the job without having to have that tag... Rdfox 76 11:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical references 

message: Could anyone possible list an achievement list for the XBOX 360 version? Thanks. Mawest11 01:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not game guide information. That sort of information is more suited to GameFAQs. DarkSaber2k 08:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Achievement lists are not unheard of for Xbox 360 games (though they're more common for Xbox 360 Live Arcade games).  Examples: Boom_Boom_Rocket#Achievements, UNO (Xbox Live Arcade Game)#Achievements.  It's not a guide; it's useful, notable, verifiable information that should be in the article if someone wants to take the time to put it in.  Oren0 14:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dispute this. WP:NOT states indiscriminate information and game guide information are not allowed, and unless there is something notable about the achivements for this game then I would say it's being included indiscriminatly. Additionally, the article already has too much information in list form, listing the songs for both PS2 and XBox, More lists are just going to further reduce the quality of article. DarkSaber2k 14:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Achievements List (XBOX 360)

message: I havent yet edited the article but hasnt Guitar Hero 3 now been confirmed?
check: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/779/779325p1.html
also http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/783/783421/guitar-hero-iii-20070425035312257.jpg which is an image
Not sure
carl trunecka 
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.140.128.208 (talk) 17:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Hero