Template talk:Country data New Caledonia

message: Change the flag to the French one for the football template, as they still use the tricolour according to FIFA .  The Oceania Football Confederation site  doesn't have flags so I don't know their stance. 
Seems too much effort changing  to '' if they don't use their local flag for the sport.
VEOonefive 14:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done If FIFA changes their mind, please let us know by filing a new request. Anomie⚔ 23:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 6 November 2011 

message: Hope this is the right form.  Anyway, As above, FIFA now use the local flag for the football team so it needs reverting.  VEOonefive 23:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --Redrose64 (talk) 10:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 16 June 2013 

message: Hello. Could somebody please change the default flag for  that is :File:Flags of New Caledonia.svg with :File:Flag of FLNKS.svg? The former is not the actual flag of the French territory but an artificial and unofficial stitching of the two official flags on the islands. Thank-you.
--Neve–selbert 03:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Flag of New Caledonia, the 2010 motion is to fly the new flag "alongside the French tricolor". According to this, New Caledonia has "2 official national flags". Perhaps someone else can look into this and mark it done/not done. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. But stitching up the two flags as if the two flags were united in one single flag is misleading at best and a blatant fabrication at worst.--Neve–selbert 23:52, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Disabling this request as I think more discussion is needed. Please reactivate when there is a consensus for this change — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:35, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Note that it did use the single flag until two days ago, when File:Flag of New Caledonia.svg was retargeted at Commons by . SiBr4 (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   New Caledonia
The stitching could be mistaken for being a single flag with an especially large width-to-height ratio. As Neve-selbert said it, it's "misleading at best and a blatant fabrication at worst", and I'd add it raises WP:NOR issues. And even if it stays, it probably needs some other default size. The current width restriction makes it too tiny.
The template must at least be enabled to produce the Kanak flag alone (bolded because this is the actual request). Now it can produce either the French tricolour alone or the stitching of the two, but not the Kanak flag only. I think this is sufficiently uncontroversial so I'm reactivating the .
And it's a good idea to discuss when to use either flag or both flags of New Caledonia. For Northern Ireland, the Ulster Banner is displayed in sports contexts, even though Northern Ireland has no official flag on its own, the only official flag there being UK's Union Jack. There are also a number of sports flags for Taiwan (Chinese Taipei). And so on. --Theurgist (talk) 05:03, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Changed the file here, though maybe the edit at Commons should be reverted as well. SiBr4 (talk) 13:56, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't object to a reversion and notification at Commons. I think the edit there shouldn't have been marked as minor, as it affected thousands of pages. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 14:38, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

text:  Now it can produce the Kanak flag (by default) or the French tricolour (by specification of a parameter), but not the stitching of the two. As much as I dislike the stitching, I guess it was made for a reason and probably should be enabled too. --Theurgist (talk) 16:28, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done: . I also added a french variant for the Tricolore, because of the semantic difference with the 1853 variant. SiBr4 (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Can this one please be made the default one, as to reflect the current legal situation? To portray the pro independence flag as the default sole New Caledonia flag simply isn't true. Worse, considering how polemical the matter is, it make wikipedia appear non neutral on the issue.--Aréat (talk) 07:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 23 June 2016 

message: Update the template from the sandbox so the flag used by FIFA (confirmed here) is included in the template. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 17:34, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Primefac (talk) 17:09, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 23 March 2018 

message: :File:Flag of France (1794–1815).svg was moved to :File:Flag of France (1794–1958).svg, needs to be updated in template. Phanto1999 (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 6 June 2018 

message: The 1853 variant is not displaying.
Does
| flag alias-1853 = Flag of France (1794–1958).svg
need changing to
| flag alias-1853 = File:Flag of France (1794–1815, 1830–1958).svg
? TheBigJagielka (talk) 09:32, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 3 September 2018 

message: :The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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In order to be consistent with the consensus at Flags of New Caledonia that both flags are displayed side-by-side, should the default setting of this template be the "both" setting? RfC relisted by Cunard (talk) at 23:46, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As the user that initiated this RFC my !vote should not be counted redundantly, I support being consistent with the consensus at Flags of New Caledonia despite personally pursuing a different outcome at the relevant article's RFC. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 15:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

text: I support being consistent as well. As one can read on the main page, displaying only the FLNKS flag isn't neutral for Wikipedia, as it is a controversial issue on the island. Every official building display the french tricolour, but not all of them display the FLNKS one, which isn't mandatory and is still considered by many in the south as the "flag of the independentists" (not my opinion here). It is unusual for a territory to have two flags, but that's the reality there as long as both sides in the local government doesn't agree on a common flag, as they should be following the Matignon treaty. --Aréat (talk) 15:39, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

text: *Perhaps the template could instead contain a note recommending that editors use  to produce ? This is an unusual situation where there are two co-official flags, and due to technical obstacles (such as the both parameter resulting in a very small icon) it's not easy to determine the best course of action. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 15:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

text: The discussion above is closed.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
===Template-protected edit request on 20 October 2019===
Please implement the consensus of the above RfC: The consensus is that the default setting of this template should be the "both" setting to be consistent with the consensus at Flags of New Caledonia that both flags are displayed side-by-side.  asked me here to help implement the RfC result. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: the default can be changed easily, but should there should be an alias to obtain the FLNKS flag after this change has been made? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A "FLNKS" variant should be added, yes. Is it difficult?--Aréat (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , now , and I've added a "FLNKS" variant. I've also manually increased the size when displaying both flags, so it appears as  instead of . S.A. Julio (talk) 19:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! And it look better indeed. Have a great day. --Aréat (talk) 19:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Default setting 

message: Please implement the consensus of the above RfC: The consensus is that the default setting of this template should be the "both" setting to be consistent with the consensus at Flags of New Caledonia that both flags are displayed side-by-side.  asked me here to help implement the RfC result. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: the default can be changed easily, but should there should be an alias to obtain the FLNKS flag after this change has been made? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A "FLNKS" variant should be added, yes. Is it difficult?--Aréat (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , now , and I've added a "FLNKS" variant. I've also manually increased the size when displaying both flags, so it appears as  instead of . S.A. Julio (talk) 19:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! And it look better indeed. Have a great day. --Aréat (talk) 19:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Template-protected edit request on 20 October 2019

message: 
Is there a technical reason this can't be corrected in the  template so that both flags are shown at full size side by side with the text to the right of both flags? Without the text overlapping the flags.
The recent consensus higher up was that both flags must be shown. See this section higher up: #Default setting
We don't need perfection in  lists. It is OK if one item is not perfectly vertically aligned. -- Timeshifter (talk) 04:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Technical question about Template:Flaglist

message: Can somebody add |flag alias-basketball = Flag of FLNKS.svg? FIBA uses that flag . DenSportgladeSkåningen (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: S.A. Julio (talk) 17:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. I forgot one, can you add |flag alias-baseball = Flag of FLNKS.svg? WBSC also uses the local flag . DenSportgladeSkåningen (talk) 08:18, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  S.A. Julio (talk) 15:11, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: Can somebody add |flag alias-handball = Flag of FLNKS.svg? IHF uses that flag  (click on OCHF). DenSportgladeSkåningen (talk) 13:49, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seem like it also use both to me --Aréat (talk) 02:48, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The left box is for logos, the right box is for the flag used by IHF, compare with other members, Brazil, Faroe Islands, Greenland DenSportgladeSkåningen (talk) 14:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 2