Talk:Buddhist cuisine/Archive 1

message: Ancient India was also buddhist?! acourding to who? Buddhism comes from Hinduism not the other way around! Hindu vegeterians are vegeterians for hindu reasons not because of buddha  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.47.107 (talk) 21:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient India being buddhist 

message: I disagree with what has been posted in the first paragraph, as well as the Chinese Translation (I don't know about the Japanese translation) of the term Buddhist cuisine. 
The paragraph imply that the term zhāi cài (Traditional form: 	齋菜 ; Simplified form: 	斋菜) means a Buddhist diet. However, the term zhāi cài (Traditional form: 	齋菜 ; Simplified form: 	斋菜) simply means a vegetarian diet and can be used on anyone who follows a vegetarian diet, even if it is for non religious purposes.
As such, I suggest changing the following sentence "It is known as zhāi cài " to "It is a form of zhāi cài".
Silverelf (talk) 10:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegetarian diet is not equivalent to a Buddhist diet 

message: I disagree with the first, second, and third paragraphs.  The article, as it stands, is poorly structured.  The Chinese/Vietnamese section should be researched more closely, as I believe that the no- garlic/onion tradition may stem from Taoism or other Chinese philosophical, or other religious traditions, and may have been transplanted into Chinese Buddhist belief. Vietnam has been DEEPLY influenced by China (indeed, the Vietnamese migrated from southern China to found their state!)(that is QUITE debatable!) and this would account for some of the differences.  Basically, this article needs a more informed rewrite, and I lack the knowledge/resources to do it myself at the moment. --prat 01:58, 2004 Feb 17 (UTC)
Plants are "living beings", too, in many religious traditions. That needs to be disambiguated.
Also, technically, there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" karma.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.252.128.13 (talk • contribs).
: I agree; the English is badly structured. I have re-written the first paragraph; hopefully the intent has not been altered - I am not certain! MonstaPro 18:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor Structure 

message: Just a note: in Jainism, the main reason that onions, garlic, and root crops are avoided isn't because harvesting them destroys organisms in the soil. Rather, it's because these vegetables are believed by the Jains to contain infinite numbers of minute organisms called nigoda (or perhaps the plural is "nigodas?" I'm not sure). For this reason, eating these crops is seen by the Jainas as extremely destructive and a huge source of karma, as it involves killing millions of organisms. In light of this, I'm not sure if the logic can really be said to be the same for the Buddhist restriction on these crops, since I don't think Buddhism posits the existence of nigoda.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.68.152.15 (talk • contribs).
:I've removed the 3rd and 4th paragraphs from the article completely, for a variety of reasons. Firstly it's undue and irrelevant to dedicate the whole 3rd and 4th paragraph of this generic Buddhism article to Jainism: Buddhism is not Jainism and this is a Buddhist article. Secondly, it's completely unsourced.  And my third and final reason, from my understanding it is inaccurate; Jains are strict vegans, who filter all water, and must take many other measures in preparing their cuisine to minimize harm to microscopic organisms, therefore Jainist cuisine cannot be described as "similar" to Buddhist cuisine at all, they are nothing alike! Sorry if I've made any Jains feel excluded, but you've got your own articles on this topic. КĐ♥ 02:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Onions, Garlic, Root Crops, Jainism, and Nigoda