Talk:Archi language

message: What are the  (and similar phonemes with this  supposed to be? I know that several Dagestanian languages – to my knowledge also Archi – include a  (hence, derivatives of ) phoneme, but  looks to me like a voiceless and raised velar lateral approximant, rather than a voiceless alveolar lateral fricative, as in languages like Tsez, Bezhta, Hinukh or Avar. I'm interested in the source of this... I'll put a  tag on it, but I'd like to discuss the matter here. — N-true 00:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They're velar lateral affricates and fricatives — basically  except velar POA.  is used because there's no convenient IPA symbol for them. Sounds of the World's Languages () transcribes them in IPA using  (with both diacritics on the bottom), and additionally describes them more accurately as pre-velar (so if you wanted to be really accurate you could add the + diacritic,  (ugh)). --Ptcamn 00:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very interesting! Didn't know... I'll try to read more about that. — N-true 01:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phonology (consonants) 

message: Aeusoes1, you changed the order of the modifier letters in the table. I like this one better, since it makes more sense logically. However, I put them in in the previous order because the sources use that order (and I think because I've also seen that one elsewhere). Do you have any idea if there is an "official" or preferred order in IPA? --JorisvS (talk) 13:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if there's a prescription on it, though the way I've always seen it at, for example, Journal of the International Phonetic Association articles is that laryngeal settings (ejective, aspiration, etc) are marked last.  I'm certain, though, that there is no phonetic difference between  and .  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 18:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, great. Then the  way will be the way I´ll use in other articles. --JorisvS (talk) 21:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The only instances I wouldn't change the order was in the dictionary citations. — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 22:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If this about that one instance I changed; I think it shouldn´t matter as long as the link points to the right page.. --JorisvS (talk) 22:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of modifier letters 

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message: @Fdom5997 please re-read MOS:COLOR, specifically the section regarding the use of colour to indicate information, although you should already know it considering our discussion last year at Talk:Dargwa language. The use of colours as the sole method for indicating information in the phonology table goes against MOS, and your claim that "if they were so bad why would they be there in the first place" is an incomprehensible argument (and a typical example of circular reasoning). In addition, the use of IPAlinks in the table is an objective improvement, as it allows users to easily go to the pages of specific phonemes, check their exact names, etc etc. Please refrain from reverting the addition of IPAlinks or removal of colours from this phoneme table (and any others).  Stan traynor (talk) 08:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of colours in the table