Talk:Iraq-al Qaeda Connection

message: This is the first time I have seen this article - it is full of misinformation.  The real article on this topic addresses each of these pieces of misinformation in turn.  I believe this one should be deleted, with anything not addressed on the other page merged in (though after a quick glance I don't see anything new here).  Why must people continue to spread this misinformation? --csloat 23:45, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article should be deleted and redirected 

message: There is much here that is not in the other article (which I did not know about until today).  I have added a note at the top of the article for readers to see the other article.  The best way to deal with controversial subjects, if the information is too large for one article, is to allow editors to state their case in a factual and unbiased manner and include a link to an opposing viewpoint.  In that way, readers can read facts that support different conclusions.  
Claims that the facts in this article are "unsubstantiated" or "debunked" are simply untrue.  Putting "alleged" in front of a statement of fact does not debunk it.
The attempt to delete and redirect this article is attempt at censorship.  The facts stand on their own as long as people are allowed to access to them.  RonCram
:Both articles deal with the same things and reacch opposite conclusions.  I don't want to censor anything - if you know of a fact that is not on the other page please list it in the timeline.  I read this page and did not see anything not already dealt with, but if there is something please include the evidence there.  These items are not just alleged; in many cases they have been disproven, and in other cases it has been the conclusion of experts and intelligence analysts that nothing came out of the meetings.  The problem with this page is we have been over all this ground extensively before on the other page.--csloat 08:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cry censorship! That's it! If you can't write an article that ruthlessly culls fact out from a mess of fiction, and you selectively base your premise on uncorroborated intelligence 'line items', you should not be surprised that your article falls appallingly below the 'level of quality' required for a free encyclopedia. You're not bringing truth to an unreceptive group - you're bringing pre-existing propaganda, now heavily discredited, back to the Wikipedia for it's second time thru the filter. Did you even read the 'Saddam and al-Qaeda' article before you decided your allegations merited an article unto themselves? Hardly censorship, if you made no effort to incorporate your 'facts' into the pre-existing body of information... -- RyanFreisling @ 13:15, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempt to Delete and Redirect is Attempt at Censorship 

message: I notice the anon user is still adding material to this page.  Besides the fact that the material is inaccurate, it should no longer be added here, unless you have a contribution to the discussion about deleting this page.  Otherwise you are just spinning wheels, as this page will be soon deleted.  Please add any information relevant to the Saddam-Al-Qaeda conspiracy theory on the proper page.--csloat 01:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop editing this page