Talk:Freighthopping

message: I've tried to rephrase the advice in this article in a third person voice, but I can't figure out a reasonable way to do that with the section on moving trains at the moment.  --Alexwcovington 12:13, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

message: How bad of a crime is trainhopping?
:Every state has an applicable statute on it and it's usually a misdemeanor.  However if locomotives or rolling stock are tampered with, railroad police can charge the trespasser with a felony and pursue federal terrorism charges, depending on the case. Equinox137 06:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How bad of a crime is trainhopping?

message: The article seems to suggest that the image of the old hobo "riding the rails" as a Great Depression stowaway is fading due to better economic times. I'd suspect this is only part of the story - the railroads themselves have been losing ground to trucks and freeways, as much cargo that used to move by train now rides the motorways on eighteen-wheel lorries. A loss of passengers from the old freightcar-stowaway status to hitchhiking the motorway instead would fit this trend, no? --carlb 20:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The decline of freighthopping 

message: If you are going to make an artical on train hopping in the presnt time you need to include its popularity whith the punk sub cullter
OI! OI! OI! OI!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.230.75.7 (talk) 23:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? Equinox137 04:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk 

message: This article needs citations. SpigotMap 08:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: If this article is going to say that trainhopping is banned by statute in nearly every state, why does it not mention the regions where it isn't banned? NeutronTaste (talk) 20:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Errr.......there's a trespassing statute in every state.  The sentence was fixed. Equinox137 (talk) 08:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nearly all states?

message: This is confusing two separate concepts...no, three.  There are fast frieghts, which are often, but not always, landbridge intermodal.  Some, but not all, doublestack is fast freight.  Some fast freight is single stack, some is TOFC, and some is reefers &cet. Anmccaff (talk) 22:36, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not all IM is doublestack, not all is priority 

message: Grain hopper car, on the other hand, might be a real name.  Anmccaff (talk) 22:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: A "grainer" is a car that a train hopper perceives to be for grain and similar. Looks like this http://www.kuhl.com/borninthemountains/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Kenyon_TrainHopping_5.jpg or this https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4420/36593434852_360e12e011_b.jpg , various similar models. --Echosmoke (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: So, arcane fauxbo (fauxbeau?) jargon, or OR?  Pick one. Anmccaff (talk) 02:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  At best it's arcane fauxbo jargon, at worst it's OR 

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message: I think the title speaks for itself. Outside of some specialized, fairly secure, fast runs, TOFC really isn't around like it used to be, and the runs it is on are much less vulnerable to hopping.  Anmccaff (talk) 03:05, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  When's the last time you saw TOFC commonly? 

message: If train hopping is illegal, how come that there are videos of it? Heroe Of Time (talk) 09:27, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it's not automatically illegal to film an illegal act in and of itself in all countries or nor does filming illegal act automatically put the perpetrators in legal jeopardy, especially in cases where the illegal act filmed is of low priority to law enforcement or the identify of the perpetrators is hard to determine if at all. I am not a Russian legal expert so I don't know what their laws say about these videos of illegal train hopping but I doubt any Russian is at risk of being prosecuted for them as the Russia government likely has bigger fish to fry. Now if you're wondering whether Wikipedia faces legal liability for hosting said videos, I am not aware of any U.S. law that would make them illegal to host on U.S. soil. U.S. law does not criminalize the taking, distributing, or possessing of videos of criminal acts in general in general (with limited exception) and such videos are generally protected under the 1st Amendment (with limited exceptions) even when they depict is an illegal act. One prominent exception to this rule is child porn. Other very limited exceptions exists also exists but they are far to complicated to discuss here right now, especially since I'm not a lawyer, and they don't apply to the videos in question anyways. Thus I wouldn't worry about Wikipedia risking any legal risk for Russian freight-hopping videos. Notcharliechaplin (talk) 14:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are the videos legal?