Talk:Gravesend

message: What constituency is this in - seems to be missing? Justinc 00:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Its in the Gravesham constituency. --LiamE 10:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Seems a touch pedantic to me. If you are going to go down that road (pardon the pun) the Romans didn't call London London or Kent Kent. Oh and Watling Street went well past London. It was "thier" road in that they built it even if they used a different name. --LiamE 01:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: The Dartford article has recently had an overhaul, and as follow-up has been nominated for peer review. Since editors to this article are likely to know something about Dartford as well, any edits you can make to the Dartford article or comments on the the peer review itself would be very useful. Thanks in advance! Jdcooper 23:19, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: The "Pocahontas" section on this page is good in spirit, but sloppy in specifics. See the Pocahontas main entry for better facts. This spills into the earlier section on "St. George's church". Here are some of the problem points.
- Many American Indians visited Europe and England before Pocahontas. The Spaniards had been colonizing America for more than a century by then. Squanto was kidnapped and taken to England by George Weymouth in 1605. 
- John Smith was not captured by a "raiding party" that "descended on the hapless settlers". Pocahontas was not present when he was captured. She did not save him from death by "tomahawk". Close, though. He was captured; she apparently saved him from death by stone club, at a ceremony held in the Powhatan capitol of Weromocomoco. 
- "...his daughter was falsely informed that Smith had died": "his" is a dangling reference intended for chief Powhatan. Don't worry about that too much, because this false information had been given out in 1609. Pocahontas was captured in 1613.
- The idea that the shock of meeting John Smith broke her heart, leading to her death, is quite romantic. It is as unsupported as the more common explanations that she died of smallpox, plague, or tuberculosis. She sickened, she died; the people in the room with her didn't understand it any better than that. John Rolfe did record her last words though: "All must die. 'Tis enough that the child liveth."
- She died in Gravesend, after she was taken off the ship.
I think that, since this article is about Gravesend, there should probably be more detail about exactly what she did in Gravesend. For instance, she spoke her last words there. She was by then Lady Rebecca Rolfe. Her funeral took place on March 21, 1616 in the parish of Saint George's, Gravesend. Her husband's name was misrecorded in the register. She was buried in the chancel, but the church burned down in 1727, and was rebuilt in 1731. When that happened, as I understand it, the bones of all those buried under the old floor were gathered together, and reburied together in the churchyard. Which bones belong to Pocahontas? No-one knows. An attempt was made some time ago to identify which skull was hers; it failed. There is, however, a handsome statue of her in the churchyard cemetery, unveiled in 1958 by the governor of Virginia. 
St. George's church: This also affects the section on "St. George's church". The problem isn't that the parish records were lost in the fire, I'm not sure that they were. The problem is that the old church was lost in the fire. The parish records read, "1616 March 21, Rebecca Wrolfe, Wyffe of Thos. Wrolfe Gent. a Virginia lady borne; was buried in ye chancell. Entered by Rev. Nicholas Frankwell". She is no longer buried where those records indicate, however. Due to the fire and the subsequent rebuilding, all the bones under the old church were removed to a common grave in the churchyard. So we do know where she is buried, we just don't know which bones are hers.
* Be Bold --LiamE 22:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to applaud LaimE's corrections above. After having read the Gravesend article I went to the Discussion page here intending to correct the statement that Pocahontas was "the first Native American to visit England, and Europe" etc....LiamE is absolutely correct, there were others before her. Chief Manteo and Wancese from North Carolina (of the "Lost Colony" fame) also preceded her I believe, to say nothing of those from  Spanish explorations....The article should be changed to "one of the earliest to visit England" or some such...Engr105th 03:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well thanks for the credit, but in truth my contibution was "Be bold" to the previous unsigned entry. --LiamE 08:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors in sections 1.4 and 1.5 

message: I'm very concerned about the newly added "Politics" section of the article.  It references right-wing extremism and possible discord with ethnic minorities in Gravesend, but it offers no citations of the same.  Further, no discussion of the MP or MEP for the area, it's past voting results, past campaigns, or anything that is typically associated with politics is included in this section.  For these reasons, I have added the "cite needed" and NPOV tags. --Friejose (talk) 14:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics section

message: Extending Long Reach to Gravesend is quite a stretch. Long Reach is a stretch of the Thames River.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by James Galloway (talk • contribs) 17:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long Reach 

message: BBC Radio News Tue 28 2011, 00:30: Reported the highest temp in the UK- 33.1C (Strood made 32.8 on my thermometer). --ClemRutter (talk) 23:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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message: Given it's historic/cultural importance, would it be worth adding to the sport section that there has been a rowing club in the town since 1878? - this is not only the oldest sports club in the town but also one of the oldest rowing clubs on the tidal Thames. Over the years some of the areas more famous individuals have been involved in the club, from 7th Earl of Darnley to world championship rowers. I would add myself, but despite being common knowledge among Gravesendians and the rowing community, the only place I've ever seen this written is the club's website which might be too much like original research?  gravesendrc.co.uk . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.20.115 (talk) 19:11, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport 

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replies: text: The unofficial Gravesend tourism site promoting local businesses is not encyclopedic and I have removed it. There are three church sites that I believe are breaches of wp:elno, including point 13. These links might fit better as citations to the main article. I have left the church links in place to avouid an empty section. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 11:50, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well ofcourse "it's promoting" .... it's a bloody tourisim site!, As this Tourism website and the churches are relevant to the article I've reinstated them, Links should only be added that are relevance and in this case the Met Office wasn't which is why I removed it, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 12:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
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