Talk:Yaroslav Stetsko

message: Привіт all! Was Yaroslav Stetsko Prime Minister or President? This article now states he was both at the same time (combined function?). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say he was a prime minister. The government is listed at Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood, 1941. Närking (talk) 19:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I would say that he was a president, as he was not the head of a legislative body. The head of the legislature was Kost Levitskyy. That would make Stetsko the President. Horlo (talk) 09:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stetsko was Prime Minister or President? 

message: I can think of few subjects more controversial on Wikipedia than Ukrainian affairs during WWII (the most controversial issue on Wiki seems to be whether or not Chaldeans and Assyrians are the same people, but that's another issue). In my recent clean-up of this article, I focused mainly on rendering awkward phrases into coherent, standard English. There were, however, a few issues dealing more with content/POV:
First, the intro said that Stetsko was the "self-proclaimed temporary head of the self-proclaimed Ukrainian statehood". This doubling of "self-proclaimed" struck me as A. pushing a POV agenda and B. in the case of the second "self-proclaimed", being ungrammatical. States are not people, they do not proclaim themselves, or anything else, for that matter. I have changed the phrasing to: "he was self-proclaimed temporary head of the ostensibly independent Ukrainian government declared by Stepan Bandera". Some people might find this controversial, and if they can come up with a better, more NPOV, more encyclopedic way of putting it, I would encourage them to do so. My motivation here was not to push any agenda, but to try to make the content NPOV and encyclopedic.
Second, I have amended a few instances of the word "Jewry" to "Jews" or "the Jews". I don't have access to Stetsko's original Ukrainian text (or the Ukrainian language in general, alas), but I found the use of "Jewry" in the article to be ungrammatical. However, if he's using the term in the original text, and he's doing it as part of his anti-Semitism, I would encourage someone with familiarity with the text/language to amend the article accordingly, but in a grammatical fashion that accords with standard English.
Again, I don't have an agenda to push on Ukrainian issues. If someone has legitimate objections to my recent revisions, they are welcome to raise them here/make the necessary changes in the article. Tigercompanion25 (talk) 22:59, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and I also removed this phrase because it repeated information already given earlier in the article: "In 1929–1934, he studied philosophy at the Universities of Lwow and Kraków in Poland. In the 1930s, he became one of the leaders of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN)." Tigercompanion25 (talk) 23:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't cannot read Ukrainian and anyhow I have don't have access to the documents being cited, but the standard term for referring Jewish communities in Eastern Europe in Stetsko's prior to 1945 was Jewry, not Jews. That might be ungrammatical, but it is almost certainly what the original text said. I appreciate your good faith efforts to improve the article, but in this case, one should stick to Jewry, not the Jews.--A.S. Brown (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few comments on my recent clean-up of this article 

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