Talk:Pasha Bulker

message: Here's an Australian Associated Press article on the appearance of a Pasha Bulker advert on eBay.  Worth mentioning? -- saberwyn 12:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Up for sale on eBay 

message: I've just added some details based on a couple of news reports. One was in the 23 June Newcastle Herald. I've tried adding a citation but while there are photos of everything else on line the crease in the hull doesn't seem to be shown anywhere. I don't have a copy of the newspaper edition to cite so if anyone can find the information, either on-line or from the actual newspaper it would be greatly appreciated. --AussieLegend 08:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  23 June 2007 - Growing concerns 

message: Should something regarding the protest Greenpeace undertook recently against coal, be included?
The protest included projecting images and text onto the Pasha Bulkers body.
:Look again, it already has been. Nomadtales 22:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NPOV says that if they do something notable it should be covered using neutral wording. The Soviet Red Army of WW2 was also an 'extremist, anti-capitalist organisation' so do you propose deleting all articles on the Eastern Front of WW2? --Nick Dowling 02:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  28 June 2007 - Greenpeace protest 

message: Cn anyone find any articles regarding the ship becoming a Newcastle tourist attraction? I think the article could do with a bit of info about this. Nomadtales 22:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourist attraction 

message: Does anyone know why the salvors haven't pumped the oil off the vessel? Albatross2147 22:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oil in bunkers 

message: === rv edits by 203.129.60.236 to last edits by 139.168.67.101 - 4 July 2007 ===
The planning phase section refers to the planning phase before the actual attempts were made. In addition, the reference used by 203.129.60.236 does not confirm the assertion that the vessel "will" be towed. The reference clearly says "may". --AussieLegend 05:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Reversions 

message: The planning phase section refers to the planning phase before the actual attempts were made. In addition, the reference used by 203.129.60.236 does not confirm the assertion that the vessel "will" be towed. The reference clearly says "may". --AussieLegend 05:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  rv edits by 203.129.60.236 to last edits by 139.168.67.101 - 4 July 2007 

message: http://www.bigpond.com/news/topstories/content/20070726/1989112.asp and radio reports(in Perth) have the Pasha Bulker as having left Newcastle to day. Gnangarra 07:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving Newcastle 

message: The article says the Kyu Maru was a tug that towed the PB to asia. The Kyo Maru is actually one of the Japanese Whaling vessels
http://oceans.greenpeace.org/nl/foto-audio-video/fotos/japanese-whaling-fleet-catcher
:Actually, if you do a bit of research you'll find that there are several Kyu Marus and the one that took the Pasha Bulker under tow looks different to the one on the Greenpeace site so it may not be the same one. --AussieLegend 13:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyu Maru 

message: According to recent edits the name of the ship has been changed. However, Lauritzen Bulkers Long List, dated 10 May 2008 still shows the name of the ship as Pasha Bulker. The only references that I've been able to find supporting the name change are two articles; one in the Sydney Morning Herald, dated 6 April 2008 and the other, dated 15 April 2008 in Transport & Logisitics News. A brief reference was also made in an aricle on abc.net.au, dated 7 April 2008. The name change needs to be cited properly and the page should probably be moved to MV Drake. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just checked again and the Lauritzen Bulkers Long List still shows Pasha Bulker. I've also found a photo on Flickr of the MV Drake in Dry Dock. This image was posted in December 2007. It's unlikely that there are two similar MV Drakes and the claims about the name change are still uncited. For these reasons I'm going to remove information about the name change until somebody can come up with a valid citation from a reliable source supporting the claim. --AussieLegend (talk) 18:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Anthea is the correct name. Newystats (talk) 08:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change 

message: The article discusses the rescue of the ship's crew. With a view to developing this sub-topic, can anyone help find reliable sources that should be included in the article that may be used to develop the reasons for this rescue? Matters that would could be discussed in the article include the reason why it was critically important to rescue the crew under such adverse weather conditions, with attendant risks, given that there was no chance of the vessel sinking or capsizing and that it had bottomed-out on the reef. Was it a matter of the possibility of the vessel catching fire, for example? Or, was it the irrepressible want of rescuers to do a rescue rather than wait for the weather to pass? Hopefully, delving into the reasons for the rescue will develop a significant element of the Pasha Bulker story. Benyoch (talk) 08:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's standard practice to remove crew from stranded vessels as soon as is safely possible. One of the reasons for this is that while it may appear to the uninitiated that a vessel does not appear in danger of sinking or capsizing, that's not necessarily the case. The MV Sygna, which ran ashore 8km away, was a case in point. It appeared stable at first but then broke its back. --AussieLegend (talk) 08:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Aussie... I take it you are suggesting that there was a concern the vessel was in immanent danger of either capsizing or sinking, to the extent that the crew would be at greater risk than would be faced in the rescue. Can you suggest any reliable sources to support your suggestion? Benyoch (talk) 12:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What I said was it's standard practice to remove crew from stranded vessels as soon as is safely possible, regardless of the apparent state of the vessel. --AussieLegend (talk) 14:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I don't remember any sources saying that it was critical that the crew was removed when they were, that the conditions were adverse enough or that there was any risk beyond what one would normally expect in that sort of situation. Do you have any sources that support your assertions to that effect? --AussieLegend (talk) 08:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My recollection of media reports at the time (televison mainly) that the rescue effort was undertaken at considerable risk to rescuers and rescuees alike, implying that the rescue proceeded because of necessity and done so as safely as possible despite the risks. Perhaps it was a media beat-up, I am not sure. At question is the necessity under risk, hence my query and speculation here.Benyoch (talk) 09:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rescue of ship's crew 

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