Talk:Park Ji-sung

message: Is this really a neutral article? Because all this about 'amazing vision', 'highly efficient attacker', 'compared to Pele, Zidane and Maradona', 'wizard with the ball at his feet' and 'can distribute the ball with pinpoint accuracy' etc. etc. He is a good player but those descriptions of him would be more suitable for Ronaldo. Yes, he has amazing stamina but his end product is poor. If those descriptions of him were true, surely he'd be a first team regular-which he is clearly not. He's had 2 years to demonstrate these skills and he hasn't exactly shined. He's had his good matches but often is uninspiring. I'm a Man Utd fan-as is clear from my name-and even I know that these phrases cannot be associated with Park. I've been watching him for 2 years now with close interest as an Asian and I do not agree with the tone of this article. Good player? Yes. Brilliant wizard? No. Life is great...if you support Manchester United 19:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. I've erased phrases from the introduction which tend to be favoritism. from now on we need a new neutral introduction with formal tone. --60.48.33.188 05:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

message: I edited the whole article, so if anyone would like to confirm I don't think there's a need for the 'informal tone' crap anymore.
The bit in the beginning where it says he is the first Asian to ever score in the history of UEFA Champions League is untrue. His teammate, Seol Ki-Hyeon (Forward for Fulham and for the Korean National Team) scored in 2002 with his Belgian Club, Anderlecht.
:Since Seol scored in the qualifying rounds of the 2001-02 tournament, should we perhaps change the statement on Park's page to read "the first Asian to score in the competition proper of the UEFA Champions League" to differentiate from the qualifying rounds? – PeeJay 11:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: edited

message: I'd like to know if there is reputable evidence for this nickname. I wasn't able to find use of this nickname on any forums regarding United or football in general. If the nickname is indeed true, I believe the statement regarding it should be edited as it seems a bit derogatory.
:I must agree. I never heard of that nickname either. I have never seen that nickname at least not in Korean newspapers. I'll delete it for now until there is a credible source. Iloveayu 23:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname "Hub Lub" 

message: I don't really know what to call that chart thingy at the very beginning of the page, but are there any ways to make that smaller? It seems a bit awkward having to scroll down just to see the first word of the article. Iloveayu 23:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart?

message: Is "February 25" really the lunar date?  If so, we should either clarify that to "25th day of the second lunar month" -- or, better, provide the solar date instead. -- Visviva 13:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

message: someones been vandalising this article
wrting all sorts of nonesense like - known as hub lub in seoul for his incoherent speech, was booed off the pitch at man U, was bought for solely marketing reason since Glazers were broke, south koreans are the biggest fans of EPL (this is BS, koreans are not into prem-football like japs and chinese - i know likes of inamoto, li tie were marketing buys) etc.
i'm guessing the culprit is chinese haha
139.80.123.40 15:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm (merely) guessing Chinese, too mirageinred 03:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: some wanker wrote about Park's nickname being "No Penis Park" and some gay remarks, so I removed them...his IP is 144.173.6.67...can some ban him? Zadooplum 22:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With all due respect, Wikipedia does not ban people for vandalism straight away unless it is severe and highly disruptive - but I have left a message on his talk page.  x42bn6 Talk 20:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism 

message: You haven't won anything until you've won it. Runner up is not a cup or trophy so i've removed it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.121.241.210 (talk) 12:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Runner up 

message: I don't see why this is important enough to be in the introductory paragraph.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmlee369 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Being a practising Buddhist 

message: added some stats for the 07/08 season couldnt find any info on asists but i'll have another look when the seasons over and finish it off.--Numberwang (talk) 00:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  career stats 

message: Can we get a better picture of Park? prefferably with a united shirt, not some generic red shirt
I see pictures of Carrick and few other players with the latest uniforms on their pages...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.230.96.186 (talk) 00:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a free image of Park, feel free to upload it and the community will decide whether it is better than the one we already have. As it stands, the current image is fine, IMO. Furthermore, it's not just "some generic red shirt", it's the shirt that United wore in the Munich 50th anniversary match against Man Citeh on 10 Feb 08. – PeeJay 02:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  better picture? 

message: Park plays mostly as a left/right winger for Manchester United. But he can play anywhere as an attacking midfielder or wing-forward. Since this article is not only about Park Ji-Sung of MU, he doesn't need to be described just as a winger. For those who probably have watched him playing for MU only, I'll quote from some recent news articles on South Korean national team with my translation.
*.. 각각 왼쪽 수비수(이영표), 오른쪽 윙포워드(설기현), 중앙 공격형 미드필더(박지성)로 선발 출전한 세 선수는 ..
:.. three players who each started as left fullback(Lee Young-Pyo), right wing-forward(Seol Ki-Hyeon), central attacking midfielder(Park Ji-Sung) .. 2008-02-26 vs Turkmenistan
*.. 이번에는 박지성이 공격형 미드필더를 맡았다. 원톱 박주영의 뒤에서 공격의 실마리를 풀어나가는 역할이었다. ..
:.. this time Park Ji-Sung took a play-making role as an attacking midfielder just behind the lone striker Park Chu-Young. .. 2008-06-08 vs Jordan
*.. 대표팀 운영의 핵심은 박지성 시프트다. 그를 어떤 위치에 놓고 어떻게 활용하느냐에 따라 대표팀의 전체적인 밑그림이 달라진다. 좌우 측면 미드필더는 물론이고 처진 스트라이커와 중앙 공격형 미드필더 등 박지성이 대표팀에서 소화할 수 있는 자리는 많다. ..
:.. A key issue of the national team is 'Park Ji-Sung shift'. Where he plays affects the team's overall performances. Not only as left and right midfielder but also as second striker or central attacking midfielder, Park can play in various positions. .. 2008-10-11 vs Uzbekistan
In the very recent matches where South Korea played 4-4-2, Park mostly played as a left winger. But he has always been virtually on free-role and usually roamed around the pitch ignoring fixed position - particularly a lot more often than in Man United. --Geropod (talk) 11:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Park's playing position (esp. in Korea national team) 

message: on the OFFICIAL Man U website it says 168 appearances. why keep changing back to 113?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.12.144 (talk) 08:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The infoxbox on the right is for "league games" only!, not including other games like cups, thats why we have "Career statistics" area.   – HonorTheKing (talk) 08:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  appearances for manchester united 

message: I would like to change Park's current club, after his (unfortunate) transfer to Queens Park Rangers , or at least mention that the terms have been agreed upon and he still needs to complete a medical and paperwork. Thank you!
Allenico (talk) 17:28, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done:.  It's unclear to me what needs to be done here, but the semi-protection expired so you can make the edit yourself now.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 July 2012 

message: This article said that 'On 23 February 2012, Park captained Manchester United for the first time from the beginning of a match in a 2–1 home defeat to Ajax in the Europa League'. I think that 'first time' because I think that he was wear an armband when gigs are change of other players at 10, 2005 match in champions league group preliminaries with losc. So that 'first time' is not completely correct.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaeYoon (talk • contribs) 04:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Is not correct information

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: In this article, Park had KNVB Cup MVP, Eredivisie Best XI and FIFA.com Best Asian Player in Europe by individual honours. But their link is uncertain. I think the three honours need official sources. Thank you. --Pinineeon (talk) 00:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncertain Source

message: User:Roiejwfwertwe is claiming that Park was actually born on 30 March 1981, rather than 25 February 1981. However, the latter date is sourced to Barry Hugman's website and corroborated by Soccerbase and the Premier League. The user claims that the discrepancy arises from Korea's use of the lunisolar calendar and cites this website, which I am unable to read as it's in Korean. If anyone can help with this, it would be appreciated. – PeeJay 14:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Foreigners do not know this fact, so there is no English site. naver is Korea's typically portal site. When you search in Naver, it looks like this. . you will see "음력 1981년 2월 25일". "음력" is Lunisolar calendar. 알겠냐? -Roiejwfwertwe (talk) 14:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to think that the Premier League would have checked with Park Ji-sung before reporting an incorrect birth date, but okay. You still need to fix the infobox references. – PeeJay 15:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted back to how it was, I don't see why we should use the lunisolar calendar ahead of the Gregorian calendar. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Per MOS:JG, dates can be given in any calendar but only if they are also given in the Gregorian calendar (or the Julian calendar for events happening before October 1582). Changing from Gregorian to lunisolar without keeping the Gregorian date is against the manual of style, but it would be fine to add the lunisolar date with an explanation of which calendar it uses. --bonadea contributions talk 09:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  In Korea, there are many cases where the lunar birthday falls on the same day as the Gregorian calendar. Furthermore, there is the concept of the '빠른년생(Fast Year)' in South Korea, where some people celebrate birthdays faster than they actually do. Roiejwfwertwe (talk) 09:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion is that you add the lunisolar birthdate with a Wikilink to Korean calendar and a source, but that has to be in addition to the existing Gregorian date - please don't remove that. --bonadea contributions talk 11:31, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused. Are we saying 25 February is the lunisolar date or the Gregorian date? – PeeJay 12:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it seems 25 February 1981 is the Lunisolar birth date. But the Gregorian birth date is 30 March 1981. Here you can convert the dates: http://manse.ndsl.kr/english/index.html Another famous footballer from South Korea whose date of birth is based on the Lunisolar calendar is Cho Kwang-rae. --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth date 

message: The following passage appears to be in error:
: Ferguson, in the Amazon-produced documentary Sir Alex Ferguson: Never Give In (2021), stated that not bringing Park into the squad at the 2011 Champions League final half-time was "a mistake" and that, had he put Park in, specifically to man mark Messi, he believed they would have won that game.
Park played the full 90 mins of the 2011 final, and so could not have been substituted on, as he was already on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.31.1.6 (talk) 15:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misquote/mistake 

message: Hey, why you removed that information? Are you sure it is too trivial to be mentioned any where in the artile or the sourcce is not suitable in yuour opinion? What is nt ok for you, and how we can do compromise? Cheers Dawid2009 (talk) 22:02, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: That 2A02:587:421D:2900:7096:32D9:1900:6B1F (talk) 21:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  He played at AO LYGIA