Talk:Atlanta Nights

message: I don't understand--vanity publishers publish whatever you pay  them to publish. They have no real standards. This is not a revelation. It's part of the definition of vanity publisher. Why is this worthwhile (much less something like the Sokal Hoax)? --Fastfission 00:01, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue was that PublishAmerica claimed not to be a vanity press - they claimed to be a Real Publisher, with Editorial Standards, &c. &c.  - ie, not to show up vanity presses, but to show up this particular one. Shimgray 00:06, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only that, but apparently PublishAmerica is one of those scammy vanity presses that promise hopeful authors enormous sales and royalties - but first, there are a few start-up costs. Advertising, editing fees, etc. - none of which is actually done. These sorts of publishers victimize people who don't know that if a traditional publisher really thought their book would sell that well then they would be paying for all that, in hopes of making it back from their cut of the book's cover price. Bryan 01:42, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: See for example Jason D. Fodeman, whose PublishAmerica book was covered in the news media as if it had been accepted by a traditional publisher. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:55, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't say so in the article, but I'm guessing that those who perpetrated the hoax paid for the book to be published, as you have to do with vanity publishers. Whether or not the author has to pay is the real criterior for being a vanity publisher. - Matthew238 00:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

text: No - they didn't have to pay to be published.  PublishAmerica doesn't directly charge for their books to be printed, but the authors typically have to pay when they buy their books from the company and try to sell them themselves.  Blackcats 02:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't understand

message: The info on these two pages are almost identical. demo 08:11, 2005 Mar 29 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think merging that article into this one would be the best approach; that way this article can continue sitting in the "2005 books" category with a title the same as that of the book. I'll add the templates and do the merging tomorrow sometime if nobody objects. Bryan 08:23, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[Atlanta_Nights_hoax]]?

message: The reference in the main article from Andrew Burt (as having written a chapter of the book) links to the British actor of that name. I suspect that this is a false link, as there is no indication in the article that he has written anything, let alone being a known science fiction author. However, I would like a second opinion before deleting the link. Jon Rob
:I'd suggest not deleting it, but rather disambiguating it to Andrew Burt. Eventually someone may write an article about the writer as well and this will make it easier to ensure it's linked up properly. Bryan Derksen 06:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Link? 

message: The article section with the same title (above), contains this line:
 The contract was reviewed with legal counsel, and the decision was made not to carry the hoax to actually publishing the book.
I had to re-read it a couple of times because the passive voice makes it unclear who's counsel conducted the review. I assume it was the hoaxers, but can we confirm this?
--UnicornTapestry (talk) 16:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Submission, acceptance and then repudiation 

message: Who wrote chapter 38?  There's no author listed, nor is there any reason given why it wouldn't have needed an author (like there is for chapters 17 and 34), nor any mention of it in preceding text, so, ah, what is it?  Twin Bird (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chapter 38? 

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message: This article reads like it was written by the authors of their book, who were particularly smug about their accomplishment. Their findings were not notable, influential or even interesting. This reads like a weak prank that is unsuitable for an encyclopedia.2.98.54.161 (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  General notability