Talk:Physical Society of Iran

message: Keep It is obviously notable and needs a page. See American Physical Society, American Association of Physics Teachers and other similar societies. Sangak 14:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The job of a scientific society is to organize conferences, offer scholarships, awards and alike. What is your definition of notability? Sangak 14:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On WP, this is the primary notability criteria. A topic is notable if supported by sufficient, independent, and reliable works nor is it synonymous with "fame" or "importance".  To organise things or to offer services is not notable. If the organisation published significant works, be it a journal, research paper or a journal article that appeared in a publication of significance, then this may go some way to meeting the criteria. Simply put, this article is a directory entry at best and does not come close to the requirments of WP:N. In short, this article should be deleted. thewinchester 15:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all a scientific organization does not necessarily publish scientific papers. Second a scientific organization does not necessarily deals with research directly (often not). It may give some service to researchers like travel grants. That's all. Associations are not involved in the act of research and science production. TWAS does not have a research journal either. Third, Iranian physics community is highly prolific (it is not related to our discussion though). Sangak 16:15, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not 100% sure but I strongly guess German Physical Society which is the oldest physical society does not have any reputable international journal today. Many more examples can be found here  Sangak 16:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "To organise things or to offer services is not notable." Who said that??!!! Even the act of publishing is a service! This fact aside, the majority of papers published in journals of American physical society are written by non-members of American Physical Society. Finally The Iranian Physical Society has proved instrumental in improving the state of training and research in physics throughout the nation. That's enough for its notability. Sangak 16:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please justify that! To me it is notable because it achieved a lot in terms of education in Iran, it organizes regular international scientific meetings, offers scholarships and awards and is doing what a scientific organization like UNESCO, TWAS, German Physical Society etc are doing. They all give service. And they give service to a limited group of people. For instance American Physical Society is not much active in Iran, it does not give any scholarship to Iranian ... Can I say it is not notable? Ofcourse it is notable for United States as German Physical Society is notable for Germans and Iranian one for Iranians. Please be advised that these societies are not science producing bodies. I was myself a member of American Chemical Society. I am neither American, nor I have been to America. I just paid the fee and I get some newsletters and can have discount if I want to attend American conferences. These societies are to help scientists communicate more easily. Sangak 18:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This organisation also appears to be known as the Physics Society of Iran . I'm going to remove the speedy tag and suggest it gets taken to AfD, if anyone is so inclined. -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedy Deletion Nomination 

message: I added some information to the article to alleviate the strange claim of failing notability. Google alone gives 72,000 hits for the Persian string of "Physics Society of Iran".--Zereshk 03:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No question

message: I think this article should be renamed from The Physical Society of Iran to Physics Society of Iran. The society itself seems to use both forms - I guess this is a translation thing - and the latter would seem to be more normal English. Any opinions? -- zzuuzz(talk) 04:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I almost solely find the term Physical Society, sometimes the less commmon Society of Physics. I have not found an equivalent society in English speaking countries that uses Physics Society, but instead always Physical Society. Since the PSI itself also seems unsure which form to use, I renamed the page according to the most common usage among physicists. D'Lemelo (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename?

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