Talk:Son Goten

message: Since when could Goten become the strongest Saiyan?--suit-n-tie 05:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, which means No original research or speculation. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, a fusion picture would not be necessary, becuase that would belong under the grasp of Gotenks. SGFF 00:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: Alright, I have expanded on the above mentioned section to satisfy part of Dispute #9 on the Peer Review. What do you guys think? SGFF 01:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Ball movies 

message: I was reading through this article and it is riddled with opinions and non-canonical facts. The "Fact" that Goten has more potential then Trunks has no fact basis at all. Goten being a cute character especially for girls has NO fact basis either. And the reason why Goten supossedly beat Buu and fought Pan in the tournament was because he didn't beat Buu. Goku and Uub left without finishing their match, so the tournament was cancelled due to them not being able to set up the preceeding matches. I think it's time we stop going by the Anime (Which has NUMEROUS plotholes) and start referencing mangas, Toriyama interviews, and even the official Dragonball guide books (the Daizenshuus).
:The part about Goten having more potential than Trunks is not mentioned in the article - what IS mentioned is how it was EASY for Goten to keep up with Trunks. The gravity chamber will make many characters formidible challenges, while the forest will not. It's also common sense that Goten could keep up with Trunks. SGFF 02:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinions, non-canonical facts, etc.

message: On the Peer Review, ReyBrujo wants us to expand the Video games section of this article - the problem is how in the world are we going to expand it? Goten, like many characters in all those Video games is a playable character - so how are we going to phrase that into a paragraph under the Video games section? I think it is impossible. So what i'm planning to do is leave that section alone and cross out Dispute #9 on the Peer Review completely. If anyone has any (or all) of the games in that section, please expand the section, describing Goten's participation. Thanks SGFF 21:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion on [[Son Goten#Video games|Video games]] 

message: I moved that to a seperate section called techniques.--Suit-n-tieWhat Have I Done?!  21:32, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since Goten and Trunks continuously use the Fusion Dance in the Buu Saga, do you think we should add the Fusion technique to the list of their abilities/techniques? I do. I'll go ahead and add that. SGFF(Would you like milk with your coffee?) 23:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I moved that stuff about kamekameha 

message: Nice pic, but I think we should use one that has him and teen Trunks instead...their friendship is the basis of most of the article. Thanos6 01:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But the subject of this article is Goten. It would be oblivious and unnecessary to throw in Trunks into this article. SGFF(@) 02:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't make sense, Goku is his father. Trunks is his friend, see the difference?--Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  05:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that Goten is much closer to, and has a far deeper relationship with, Trunks than Goku (hell, I think they become lovers, but even without that, they have a basically titanium strength bond). Thanos6 05:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't matter, as this article is about Goten, not Goten and Trunks. --Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  22:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nor is it about Goten and Goku. Thanos6 23:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: People! Are we arguing over a single image on this article?! We should just leave the image be - there are not much images of both Goten and Trunks (as teenagers) out on the internet (and if there are, they would probably be junk or fanart), so we should just let the original and current image stay on the article permanently. We should not create a new dispute and add it to the list of dozens of disputes already in effect. Plus, Goten and Goku have had father-son bonding during the time when Goten was seven until the time he was seventeen - which is ten years to establish a special and powerful bond between the two of them. That image clearly shows father-son bonding while training. Trunks images can be placed on the Trunks (Dragon Ball) article. SGFF(@) 02:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hope that ends the "debate".--Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  03:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I disagree, but seeing as how I'm outvoted, I'll hush. C'mon, boys. *gestures to Trunks and Goten to get back to making out* Thanos6 03:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What're you talking about? They are not gay.--Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  04:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't have to be (re: bisexual) but I'm stopping here before this turns into a Truten debate. Thanos6 04:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Good, at least this discussion is turning into a sick-minded, perverted debate. Now, I should have said this earlier, but Don't climb the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man. SGFF(@) 00:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ehh, no such thing as too much passion.  Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go climb the South Carolina Capitol building dressed as Quasar. :) Thanos6 11:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, have fun - and don't let the South Carolina Senators catch you! ;-) SGFF(@) 22:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teenage picture 

message: That section should be worked on, as it doesn't specify where the info came from.--Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  02:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I got rid of it. I bet you're thinking, "huh?", or "wtf?". It was because that section wasn't done correctly. You have to say which websites or books gave you the info, etc... If someone wishes to do it correctly, go on, as I don't know where it all came from.--Atomic-Super-SuitWhat Have I Done?!  04:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the referances 

message: "However, whereas Goku was a foul-mouthed, short tempered and mischievous rascal as a child, Goten's personality in direct contrast is sweet, considerate, well-mannered, polite and respectful, no doubt as a result of Chichi's strict upbringing."
Eh?  Goku was foul-mouthed?  Was this only in the manga, or am I just forgetting Dragonball?  I agree that Goten was "sweeter" than Goku was as a child, but is this going a bit far? Paul Haymon 22:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know Paul, but I agree that was more of an opinion base, so I deleted it, along with a bunch of other opinionated stuff. I don't particularly like the wording in this article, it seems to express opinion rather then stating actual facts. And just so you are aware, not every little change that you want to make has to be discussed, if you truly feel that something has to be reworded or deleted/added, feel free to do so without notifying anyone else. If someone doesn't like it, then they can revert it, but you in particular seem to have a clear view on what changes need to happen anyway, so all I'm saying don't hesitate to change it if you don't like it. ;) --Majinvegeta 20:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goten vs. Goku 

message: What's the name pun of Goten? Like how Vegeta is a pun on vegetable.
There isnt a pun on Goten's name. Ten = Heaven
 --Martian God of War 01:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goten's name pun 

message: Goten was created in the series to replace Goku as the creator wanted to retire Goku from the series, however, Toriyama was forced to bring Goku back when the fans disapproved of the decision to replace the main character with an identical version of him (Son Goten).
This sounds more like speculation. If this is true, then we need a source!  --Vic729  03:55, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
Well actualy he got a point after the cell saga they were gonna make goten was gonna replace goku but fans licked him more so they brought him back and after DBZ into DBGT they made his part smaller and made him weaker  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.105 (talk) 12:12, August 27, 2007 (UTC) 
I am getting very confused over the Super Saiyan 2 thing with Goten and Trunks. Wikipedia is saying that they are able to use the form in GT however, other websites are arguing against the fact that they never reached the forms. But as usual the Animators weren't persistent with the whole electricity with the Aura. I just want to know if they can use the forms and if so when did they achieve it? User:Kazi22 15:50, October 13, 2007  
*No, they didn't. Thanos6 22:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Goten's origin?

message: In the plot overview section it says that it was previously thought that only full-blood Saiyans could attain Super Saiyan. Given that Gohan is half human and went Super Saiyan years ago, I'd have to believe that that's not at all accurate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joon01 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goten's Ability to go Super Saiyan