Talk:Duke of Devonshire

message: Very nice pictures! Who is on the top picture? Renata 11:48 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)
:Bess of Hardwick's husband William Cavendish -- if you put your cursor on it, it should say that -- who's the one the dukes are descended from.  I haven't put his picture on his own page yet, because I'm hoping to find one in color.  These pictures came from a booklet on Chatsworth I bought when I was there in 1986, and I hate black-and-white pictures, but I couldn't resist showing off.  Glad you approve.  -- isis 17:45 Oct 25, 2002 (UTC)
Would anyone object if I moved each Duke to his own separate page, leaving only a list on this page?  If no responses, I'm going to do it.john 22:53 24 May 2003 (UTC)
:Good move! Deb 19:14 25 May 2003 (UTC)
::Is there a preference to the title of pages for lists of Dukes, Earls etc? personally I think the singular should be used and that this page should be moved to Duke of Devonshire. Mintguy 22:32 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)
As I said on your user talk page, I have no especial preference.  I think the plural makes a bit more sense, in the general "logical common sense" aspect, but if the wikipedia conventions are different, I have no objection. john 00:25 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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With Earl of Burlington redirected here, the famous architect-Earl is rather lost in the ducal crowd. What if one is basically interested in Palladian architecture? Wetman 20:43, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The "son & heir" link points to the wrong Marquess of Hartington. —Ashley Y 03:59, 2004 Aug 26 (UTC)
: Have moved the former to the subject's full name, and created William Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington as a disambiguation page. I don't really know enough to even start a stub on the current heir, however.
: James F. (talk) 20:23, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Son & heir 

message: Does anyone know of any links to the cavendish family in relation to a date ,being 5th April and a Rat.( Chatsworth House Cavendish)if you have any ideas contact parchibald@rocketmail.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.83.100 (talk) 12:19, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cavendish Family  

message: The list includes eight men who might have been Duke had they lived longer.  They're now listed under their nearest ancestor who had the coronet, but this means some are not in the order of succession; in particular the younger sons of the 4th duke are listed before the eldest (5th duke).  Here they are in succession order:
*William Cavendish, 4th Duke of Devonshire (1720–1764), eldest son of the 3rd Duke
:Other titles (5th & 6th Dukes): Baron Clifford (1628)
*William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire (1748–1811), eldest son of the 4th Duke
*William George Spencer Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire (1790–1858), only son of the 5th Duke, was called "The Bachelor Duke" and died unmarried
:*Lord Richard Cavendish (1752–1781), second son of the 4th Duke, predeceased his eldest brother unmarried
:Other titles (7th Duke onwards): Earl of Burlington and Baron Cavendish of Keighley, in the county of York (1831)
:*George Augustus Henry Cavendish, 1st Earl of Burlington (1754–1834), third and youngest son of the 4th Duke, predeceased his nephew, the 6th Duke
::*William Cavendish (1783–1812), eldest son of Lord Burlington, predeceased his father
*William Cavendish, 7th Duke of Devonshire (1808–1891), eldest son of William Cavendish, eldest son of the 1st Earl of Burlington
:*Hon. William Cavendish (1831–1834), eldest son of the 7th Duke, died young
*Spencer Compton Cavendish, 8th Duke of Devonshire (1833–1908), second son of the 7th Duke, died without issue
:* Rt. Hon. Lord Frederick Charles Cavendish (1836–1882), third son of the 7th Duke, predeceased his second brother without issue
:* Lt.-Col. Lord Edward Cavendish (1838–1891), fourth and youngest son of the 7th Duke, predeceased his second brother
*Victor Christian William Cavendish, 9th Duke of Devonshire (1868–1938), eldest son of Lt.-Col. Lord Edward Cavendish
If the above is confusing, because some skipped heirs are indented under someone other than their father, here's another possibility:
*William Cavendish, 1st Duke of Devonshire (1640–1707), only son of the 3rd Earl
:*William Cavendish, 2nd Duke of Devonshire (1673–1729), eldest son of the 1st Duke
::*William Cavendish, 3rd Duke of Devonshire (1698–1755), eldest son of the 2nd Duke
:::*William Cavendish, 4th Duke of Devonshire (1720–1764), eldest son of the 3rd Duke
:::::Other titles (5th & 6th Dukes): Baron Clifford (1628)
::::*William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire (1748–1811), eldest son of the 4th Duke
:::::*William George Spencer Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire (1790–1858), only son of the 5th Duke, was called "The Bachelor Duke" and died unmarried
::::*Lord Richard Cavendish (1752–1781), second son of the 4th Duke, predeceased his eldest brother unmarried
::::*George Augustus Henry Cavendish, 1st Earl of Burlington (1754–1834), third and youngest son of the 4th Duke, predeceased his nephew, the 6th Duke
:::::*William Cavendish (1783–1812), eldest son of Lord Burlington, predeceased his father
:::::::Other titles (7th Duke onwards): Earl of Burlington and Baron Cavendish of Keighley, in the county of York (1831)
::::::*William Cavendish, 7th Duke of Devonshire (1808–1891), eldest son of William Cavendish, eldest son of the 1st Earl of Burlington
:::::::*Hon. William Cavendish (1831–1834), eldest son of the 7th Duke, died young
:::::::*Spencer Compton Cavendish, 8th Duke of Devonshire (1833–1908), second son of the 7th Duke, died without issue
:::::::* Rt. Hon. Lord Frederick Charles Cavendish (1836–1882), third son of the 7th Duke, predeceased his second brother without issue
:::::::* Lt.-Col. Lord Edward Cavendish (1838–1891), fourth and youngest son of the 7th Duke, predeceased his second brother
::::::::*Victor Christian William Cavendish, 9th Duke of Devonshire (1868–1938), eldest son of Lt.-Col. Lord Edward Cavendish
:::::::::*Edward William Spencer Cavendish, 10th Duke of Devonshire (1895–1950), eldest son of the 9th Duke
::::::::::*William John Robert Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington (1917–1944), eldest son of the 10th Duke, was killed in action in World War II, without issue
::::::::::*Andrew Robert Buxton Cavendish, 11th Duke of Devonshire (1920–2004), second and youngest son of the 10th Duke
:::::::::::*Mark Cavendish (1941-1941), eldest son of the 11th Duke, died in infancy
:::::::::::*Peregrine Andrew Morny Cavendish, 12th Duke of Devonshire (b. 1944), second son of the 11th Duke
::::::::::::*William Cavendish, Earl of Burlington (b. 1969), heir apparent
:::::::::::::*James Cavendish, Lord Cavendish (born 15 December 2010), second heir apparent, only son of Lord Burlington
—Tamfang (talk) 00:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  interim heirs 

message: What's this in the shield, a mutant reindeer?  I see that the image was adapted in part from :File:Héraldique meuble Rencontre cerf.svg, which has more 'normal' antlers. —Tamfang (talk) 18:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  strange antlers 

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message: What exactly is the point of this? It's an entirely unedifying list of nonentities (or such they appear to be, given the scant information provided), to the extent that one almost feels it to be there purely for vanity purposes ('look, there's me, number 37!'). Sources would surely be required for every single individual, and for the statements regarding their relationships, for these lists to fall in line with Wikipedia requirements (notwithstanding the fact that they'd still be surplus to any reasonable requirement). I note many Ducal titles have these 'line of succession' sections; why? Because Dukes are so high in the scheme of things? Does that warrant such... comprehensive lists of people who aren't ever going to get within ten people of the title? For a crown, such a list makes sense, but surely not for- any rank of- peerage.
: Succession & heirs is normal in all peer articles. This is longer than most. Plenty of sites cover the lines so not too hard to source but they are not controversial. Garlicplanting (talk) 11:43, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Line of succession section