Talk:Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth)

message: Further to Aspects' recent reinstating of this single's UK label and two European picture sleeves: there's no question of these images not passing WP:NFCC, I'd deleted two of them because their inclusion wasn't in keeping with the issue of points of notability throughout a wikipedia article – in that they were unnecessary additions, imo, particularly the Spanish pic sleeve. It's relevant to mention that the individual Beatles were very disparaging about how their music was packaged in markets where they had little control: in the US until negotiating new contract with Capitol in 1967 (eg Capitol's habit of creating "new" albums with unauthorised artwork such as Something New, Beatles VI, etc), and from January 1976 onwards, when their individual contracts expired (Rock 'n' Roll Music, The Best of George Harrison). This is apparent also in the choice of artwork for their solo singles in European countries, where photo images and text font had no bearing at all on the design used for the single's parent album and/or on the design concept used in UK and US promotional campaigns (posters, magazine ads) – and the picture-sleeve image was often years out of date. With the Spanish sleeve for "Give Me Love", for example, the photo was taken at the re-opening of Apple Studio in 1971. And there's plenty of evidence to suggest that out of all the Beatles, George Harrison was the biggest stickler for artwork and packaging being synergistic with the musical "product": he worked closely with Tom Wilkes on some classic designs that are recognised as reflecting the musical content very effectively (All Things Must Pass, "Bangla Desh", The Concert for Bangladesh and especially Living in the Material World); he was highly critical of Capitol's choice of sleeve for The Best of George Harrison; he chose to postpone the George Harrison album from its planned Christmas 1978 release just to get the packaging right; and his work with Genesis Publications (eg the original, leather-bound edition of his I Me Mine autobiography, the two, super-expensive Songs by George Harrison volumes) shows that Harrison was more interested in creating something of beauty than necessarily seeing it sell millions of copies ... Which is a long way of me saying that including examples of (frankly) substandard picture sleeves is not reflective of, or relevant to, the subject of this WP article. My choice when preparing the article for GA nomination was to have the picture sleeve used in France (and a couple of other European countries) as the only image, because, as referred to in the text (under Release), it does at least reflect Wilkes' design concept for LITMW in some way. Personally, I can't see that including the generic Apple label adds anything at all to the article or serves as a useful means of visually identifying the song when this particular European sleeve image is available. Anyway, as a compromise, I've retained the UK label as the main image, taken the French pic sleeve to sit as an image illustrating a point made in the Release section (consistent with approach I'd adopted in Harrison GAs "What Is Life" and "Bangla Desh"), and deleted the rather inferior Spanish sleeve. I'd prefer to lose the label image altogether, of course, but as I say, this a compromise if other contributors believe the label is important. JG66 (talk) 05:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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