Talk:Tina Modotti

message: Desperately needed for this entry are usable [see copyright issues elsewhere] images in at least these categories.
*Photographs by Tina Modotti
*Photographs of Tina Modotti
*Photograph of Diego Rivera’s murals with Modotti as a model.
:Many of her photographs still under copyright, mostly held by her estate. According to the Masters of Photography website, provided that we attribute them as a source and say who holds the copyright. ~~Shiri —  Talk~~ 19:43, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
I added a (presumably) PD image of her in The Tiger's Coat. Not terrific, but all the photographs I could find of her are still under copyright. ~~Shiri —  Talk~~ 19:46, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
:I just added this link to Modotti's photographs at the Italian Fondazione Italiana per la Fotografia. I think all of these photos are from the 1920s, and I've heard that EU copyright law is less stringent than in the U.S. Would anyone with EU copyright knoweldge and/or Italian skills be interested in checking this out? –dablaze 02:35, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
:I just added Woman from Tehuantepec by Modotti.Smlarthist (talk) 21:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I cleaned up the first six paragraphs of this article.  After that, the author begins to drop names not otherwised referenced and makes use of unexplained abbreviations.  Much of this makes little sense.  Someone with better knowledge of the subject will have to complete the cleanup.
Rosquet 23:19, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Rosquet - you should register as a user and we can talk more about this.  Carptrash 05:35, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  more cleanup needed 

message: I did a fair amount of stuff, although I added no new content.  Mainly reorganizing, wikifying, and trying to clarify.
Superm401 03:35, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did a Fair Amount 

message: When I first wrote this piece I emersed myself in Modotti, a person that I have long been infatuated with, but burned out after writing a very sketchy piece and could not get up the feelings needed to return to it.  Then a couple of weeks ago I was interviewed by Daniel Pink for his Wired story on Wikipedia.  At that time I mentioned to him about my incomplete Modotti article.  Almost immediately folks began showing up and doing the work that I seemed incapable of performing.  This makes me feel good about myself, good about Tina and mostly, good about wikipedia.  [postdated] Carptrash 22:26, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  a funny coincidence, if there is such a thing as coincidence. 

message: I commented out the following text (in mid-edit, so there may be some fragments in there):
:Sometime in 1923 Modotti met muralist Diego Rivera, modeled for several of his paintings. began a yearlong affair with him after separating from Weston. During this time she turned more and more towards radical politics.  Also in 1926, Diego Rivera's wife Lupe Marín asserted that her separation from her husband was caused by his affair with Modotti, who was modeling for him.  The Modotti-Rivera affair lasted for about a year.
:She did not care for the fact that in one painting Rivera depicted her in close proximity to Mella, with whom Modotti was trying to hide her affair. Peering at her from behind is the ominous face of Vidali.  About this Tina wrote to Weston, "Recently Diego has taken to painting details with an exaggerated precision. He leaves nothing to the imagination."  This marked the end of her admiration of him as an artist, and perhaps as a communist as well.  Later, after Rivera was expelled from the Communist Party for his Trotskyist leanings, she would denounce him as a traitor.
I tried a lot with this, but there's no real timeline to work with -- I can't really figure out what happened when. Can anyone clarify the whole Diego Rivera affair timeline? In general terms? :-)
Also, the sentence that claims Modotti was involved in the Stalinist purges, was this in Spain or in Moscow? (The claim appeared in the Spanish Civil War paragraph, but I cut it for now.) What kind of involvement was it, or was it just a rumor?
--dablaze 05:12, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
:Well I started this article, so I guess i can  . . . . if not finish it at least address some of these issues.  So first thing tomorrow AM [after two cups of coffee].......................... Carptrash 05:27, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am re-reading all the Stalinist references in Alber's Fire, Shadows, Snow ( bunch) where  the Trotsky Stalin split comes to the fore regarding the assassination of the maverick (if not Trotskyite, then certainly not Stalinist) Mella by (perhaps) Vidali, Tina next lover and clearly a Stalinist.  Would she have spent the rest of her life with a Stalinist (including going to Stalin's Soviet Union with him) were she not in sympathy with that POV?   However I just ran across the statement that if Mella's "Assassination is shrouded in confusion, so is the matter of Tina's political affiliation.  (p. 216)  this at the time of the murder.  Albers follows this with "she flew back into the Party fold." Stalin's party that is.  Carptrash (talk) 16:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And so, that is Alber's view, not Modotti's, isn't it? Again, among Marxists and many other political leftists during that period (1920-1945 at least), the Russian Revolution and ensuing Soviet government were considered representative, including of the 'anti-fascist struggle'. To assert that everyone who supported either was ideologically a "Stalinist' is tenuous. Kevincof (talk) 17:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline & Stalinist purge questions 

message: Why was the movies list removed? Vandalism or was something wrong? I vote keep, if it comes down to democracy. Blair P. Houghton 21:52, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies 

message: it appears that someone has added, and then another removed Modotti from this list.  I figure that she does not really belong on it because she was never an American.  Now a list of Italian - Mexican activists   .   .  .  . . . . . ..........  Carptrash 17:33, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian-American activist 

message: http://www.eastman.org/  has no active link as given in the External links section as
   http://www.eastman.org/ar/strip87/htmlsrc3/modotti_sld00001.html
There are many iamges at modotti.com
Roger Moore's 2007 book "Obsidian 22" concerns 10 of her Oaxacan photos.
G. Robert Shiplett 15:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  broken external link  to George Eastman House 

message: I suggest that there be a separate gallery of photographs by Tina ModottiSmlarthist (talk) 21:06, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion of separate gallery of photographs by Tina Modotti 

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message: I cut out the category :Category:Italian artists' models because I am not aware of any Italian artists that Modotti modeled for.  Feel free to convince me otherwise. Carptrash (talk) 20:34, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Italian artists' models]]