Talk:1934 FIFA World Cup

message: Football World Cup 1934 → 1934 FIFA World Cup – following the consensus of naming the World Cup articles as FIFA World Cup in Wikipedia, and consistency of naming the major international football tournaments.
Discuss here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Competitions#Requested move of Football World Cup articles.  --Pkchan 10:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved per requested move.  --Pkchan 12:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: What is the relevance of this? Guinnog 06:50, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In a competition that was knockout? Guinnog 17:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One problem (apart from its complete irrelevance to the tournament, and the fact it might mislead readers into thinking this was a league competition) is that not all teams played the same number of games, so it isn't even a fair comparison. Adding points is just silly, when points weren't awarded at the time! Guinnog 18:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indded, and if you did so would you award two or three points for a win? Jooler 12:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: League table

message: I am fairly certain that Germany flew the Nazi flag when they competed in this tournament.  I will try to find some evidence of this, and if I find it I will list it here and change the flags for that country, as has been done for the 1938 FIFA World Cup. Uris 18:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a description of the Nazi flag being flown at the '34 World Cup here. I can't find any evidence of the Empire flag ever being flown at the '34 tournament. Uris 19:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: When the Nazis came to power in 1933 the black-red-gold flag was entirely removed and replaced with the black-white-red, though they would eventually, on September 15, 1935, replace virtually all German governmental flags with designs based on the swastika flag that had been their party flag. Realismadder 23:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

text: hello i read an article in german and it proofed, that the nazi flag has been used--95.222.160.229 (talk) 13:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can you provide evidence? Tomeasy T C 19:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I cant find photos of the flag at any of the matches, but the German side certainly did the nazi salute before the games - photos here from the matches vs. Sweden & Austria. BigSteve (talk) 09:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Nazi or Empire Flag Flown by Germany?

message: In the little diagram of the course of the tournament, Czechoslovakia is anachronistically called the "Czech Republic."  This needs to be fixed, but the wikicode for this baffles me, so I leave it to others! --Jfruh (talk) 19:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech Republic -> Czechoslovakia 

message: We really need to find out the correct scorers. Right now the match reports don't match the top scorers list. • 辻斬り? 10:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here. There is no firm answer to this question. The official FIFA match reports say one thing, the RSSSF says another. Lots of great research may or may not have been done, BUT if that research is not VERIFIABLE it doesn't belong here. And we (Wikipedians) do not do original research; we report the facts claimed by others. According to WP:V, the standard used by Wikipedia is not truth but verifiability. Thus, in the absence of a detailed description by RSSSF or other third parties stating WHY FIFA's reports are wrong, we have to accept FIFA. Thus, I am in the process of changing all the scorer information to reflect official FIFA reports, but, as I did 1930 FIFA World Cup I will be inserting ref tags detailing what the disputed information is. This sounds clunky but I think it works out pretty well in practice. \ Fnarf999 \ talk \ contribs \ 01:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Goalscorers

message: Shouldn't the abbrevation for Czechoslovakia be TCH and not CZE.  CZE didn't come into use until the founding of the Czech Republic in 1993.
At least RSSSF.com is using CZE for these teams.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liioadin (talk • contribs) 17:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CZE -> TCH 

message: I am removing this, because there is no source or citation given. Might as well say that Brazil fixed the 2002 Cup for all the evidence given here.
-Izzo
To be honest, it all smacks of the typical British media bias against mainland Europe, and particularly Italy.  Everything England or English clubs ever won was won fairly, without any hint of controversy (through good old British hard work and honesty, don't you know), while everything Italy or any Italian club ever won was the result of match-fixing and bribery.  Kind of funny coming from a nation whose football association is infamous in the rest of the world for sweeping everything under the mat; if something like Calciopoli ever happened, or has happened, in England, it would never see the light of day, and that's a fact.  As every Daily Mail reader knows, England occupy a higher moral ground than those grubby 'continental' Europeans. 99.234.182.107 (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: the referee actually headed the ball back to the Italians at one point. ahahahah sure...!! --necronudist (talk) 09:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Fixing of the Cup

message: The Summary section starts, "The tournament was held after cupsystem" (emphasis in the original).  This makes absolutely no sense as a sentence in the English language.  Perhaps somebody who knows what it's supposed to mean can rephrase. Dricherby (talk) 12:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense text 

message: Germany used Nazi flag at all sporting games in 1934!
:So why do does the logo  show the Empire flag (left of the leg)? chandler ··· 17:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who changes flags from Nazi Germany on German Empire? 

message: The map used shows the modern boundaries of Italy, not those of 1934. For consistency, would it be better to use a map of the era? The 1919 map that is available in wikipedia has the same boundaries as a 1934 map would have had.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.73.119.90 (talk) 09:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made a request at Template talk:Location map#New map, to be able to include this map.--EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 20:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
* http://www.fifa.com/en/media/index/0,1369,125346,00.html
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--JeffGBot (talk) 12:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The link will not be removed. It will simply be marked dead. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: While blogs are not reliable sources, this photo from the competition seems to imply that the team played under the Nazi flag and not the "empire flag". An anonymous editor from Vietnam continues to make the change appealing to the poster for the games as a source. However the poster simply displays flags and does not indicate which flag the German team played under. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Anonymous user morphs into User:Pakon111. Welcome. Please discuss here. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Apparently user has relented. Also, the entire discussion above seems to indicate that consensus has been reached. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:37, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany played under the Nazi flag at this competition 

message: First goal was scored by Iraragorry, but Langara scored second and third. See , . Iraragorri only scored one goal i all national team matches , . Thanks. Felato ().  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.83.227.213 (talk) 10:59, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why hasn't this change been made? Eduardo5890 (talk) 06:16, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match Spain Brazil, FIFA scorers are wrong 

message: Kick-off time of all the first round matches was 16:00 CET, not 16:30 CET. I found this in the different newspapers in old articles about all matches. 
From the second round kick-off time was changed to 16:30 http://dlib.coninet.it/bookreader.php?&f=2020&p=1&c=1#page/4/mode/1up (see page 4, first column "Le partite avranno inizio alle ore 16.30") Eu-football-info (talk) 09:21, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, the article you linked does say that the time was changed to 16:30, but it doesn't say what time were the matches before the switch. Did you get the information about them being at 16 somewhere else? Tanonero (msg) 21:38, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Examples for some matches: Italy v USA - http://dlib.coninet.it/bookreader.php?&f=2017&p=1&c=1#page/4/mode/1up (page 4) - "ore 16" in article title; France v Austria - https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k7640179p/f6.item.zoom - "Le match debute a 4 heures juste." in the 4th column. It is possible to find kick-off time of every game in different newspapers. And it was 16:00 CET Eu-football-info (talk) 17:33, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  --Tanonero (msg) 19:06, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kick-off time of the first round matches