Talk:Mencius

message: The current paragraph on Mencius' views on war seems unsourced and written highly unencyclopedic. Can somebody clarify whether Mencius actually mentioned something like that, and if so, word it more appropriately? DDSaeger (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Views on War 

message: I added table with all the names. For the debate that led to translations "ancestral name" and "clan name", see Talk:Confucius. Sources for the Mencius table are: , , and , among others. Hardouin 18:54, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: Wikipedia standards (I don't recall which particular one) say that pictures with people should have the person looking towards the main text. The picture of Mencius is looking away from the text. --Amazon10x 23:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If there were another standard that require the infobox to be on the right, then you can only conform to one or the other standard.  I don't think using the mirror image of a portrait is a good idea at all.  Kowloonese 23:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not easy to find a classic portrait looking towards the text. You know, in Chinese style the important person is located leftside, so in most of the portraits, Mencius looks rightward. Anermay (talk) 11:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait's eyes pointing outwards 

message: I don't know anything about Mencius, but when I read this article I immediately thought of Jean-Jacques Rousseau. Neither article makes any mention of the other, but I wonder if they should. I would be fascinated to hear of the similarities and differences between the ideas of Mencius and Rousseau. Can anyone who knows more about Mencius help to draw a comparison? 86.136.90.90 23:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not studied Rousseau - are there similarities deeper than the fact that both thought human nature was good? On a related note, I apologize for having started the comparisons section and not having yet elaborated on Mencius' rivalries with his contemporaries. The article is not long so there shouldn't be a problem with comparing Mencius to Western philosophers as well, provided there are proper sources. Any more general points may be put in Chinese philosophy#Comparison between Chinese and Western philosophy. Pomte 22:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rousseau

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 21:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: The external link to Charles Muller's translation of Mencius does not work.  -- Anthee (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faulty URL 

message: So why does the English versions of Meng Zi and Kong Fu Zi (Confucius)'s names have the weird "cius" behind them? Could someone explain this to me on my talk page maybe? Children of the dragon (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I don't know if you are still checking but the English gets it from Latin (all scholarship was still being done in Latin in Europe at the time Europeans became aware of these guys).  In Latin nouns have to have an inflectional ending to indicate the part of speech.  In the masculine nominative singular it is -us.  So the root names are Confuci- (which looks like Kong Fu Zi), and Menci- (which looks like Meng Ze) with an added -us ending telling us that it Latin it is a masculine nominative singular.  In proper Latin pronunciation the -cius element should be two syllables.  Ekwos (talk) 23:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Europe learned about Kong Zi, Meng Zi, and the Chinese philosophy in general mostly due to the work of the international team of Jesuits who, over 100+ years since Matteo Ricci labored to translate major Chinese philosophical works. And, of course, the language they translated them into was Latin... -- Vmenkov (talk) 05:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  We may consider ourselves lucky they missed Laocius and Xuncius :-) 210.22.142.82 (talk) 11:37, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  They didn't (and  was used for /ʃ/ so that pinyin "Xunzi" would have been something like "Huncius"), but the Chinese rites controversy meant that (e.g.) Francois Noel's translation of the Tao Te Ching went unpublished, so that Europe learned about it in full detail much later, once vernacular scholarship had won out over Latin. — LlywelynII 23:15, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  the "cius" at the end of this guy's name 

message: Rajmaan (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A loooong string of User:Rajmaan's copy/pasting of Google Books search results are commented out above, if future editors might find them useful. — LlywelynII 23:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  family 

message: Substituted at 23:42, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Both Mencius and Mozi espoused a moral universalism. Was there any influence of the latter on the former? LastDodo (talk) 11:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Mozi referred to Heaven's will a lot, whereas Confucius had mostly referred to the sages as his authority. Mozi did definitely influence later generations in this way, but mostly as a target for rebuttal. Mencius, in fact, spilled a lot of ink specifically aiming to refute Mozi and Yangzi (Yang Zhu), who he portrayed as two extremes: excessively universal selflessness (without regard for family ties) and excessive selfishness. Mencius upheld Confucius' tradition as he saw it, but with reference to and reinterpretation of Heaven's will, which Mozi had made an issue. Dundundebaba (talk) 20:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any Mohist influence? 

message: The current section on "Destiny" has no sources and it is ambiguous what term the section is talking about (maybe 命?) Confused Sea Creature (talk) 23:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Destiny?