Talk:Zhenli Ye Gon

message: "According to Ye Gon, Alarcón told him he should cooperas o cuello (literally, "co-operate or neck"), meaning if he did not cooperate, he would be decapitated."
well, being mexican and being familiar with the slang, "cooperas o cuello" does literally mean "co-operate or neck", BUT, it is not usually used in the sense of decapitation, in actuality it's meant to mean "co-operate or you will die."
rotarypot 08:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that narco-traffickers quickly picked up on the effectiveness of AQI propaganda videos featuring decapitation, and are inclined to make examples of rivals by such means as decapitation, el guiso, etc.; he could very well have interpreted the statement more literally.216.96.229.18 (talk) 13:39, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  about the "decapitation"  

message: According to this article he was born in Shanghai on the mainland.  I'm not necessarily saying that it's true, but it's in English and from the Washington post, whereas the current reference is in Spanish from a source I'm not familiar with.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072400150.html?hpid=topnews
67.189.78.218 00:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  birthplace 

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message: "Zhenli Ye Gon" is a |Chinese name, not a Spanish one, that means the family name is the first name, "Zhenli", while the given name(s) are "Ye Gon". Consequently, the hatnote gives the wrong guidance about this person's name usage. A quick Google search suggests most English, and many Spanish, sources refer to this person by his full name "Zhenli Ye Gon". I found this article where he is referred to as "Zhenli" but only after being introduced by his full name. Although the court documents do use his full name, some reporting on his legal cases refer to him as "Ye Gon". To me, it is not clear if this is a reporting mistake or a legal convention when reporting and citing court cases. Given that his full name, "Zhenli Ye Gon", seems to be the most common usage in sources, shouldn't Wikipedia follow the sources and use his full name too? The Chinese naming conventions would suggest so. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:16, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name is Chinese, not Spanish