Talk:Coca-Cola/Archive 1

message: Is one of the logos "Coke is it" or "Coke it is"?  I think it's a mistake, but I don't dare change it. Cluster 18:08, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Slogan

message: :Coca-Cola is known to be addictive due to the caffeine in it.
Just because it contains an addictive chemical, that doesn't make it addictive; is there some other reason to think it's addictive?
:The sugar in the drink also contributes to diabities and other physical complications.  
::I don't know what the point of saying this is, in the context of the article.  All sugar is dangerous for diabetics.
:Recent studies have shown that the caffeine accelerates the body for a short period of time.
::What does "accelerates the body" mean?
:This acceleration extends to the brain as well.  Learning has been known to increase while drinking the soft drink.
::??
:This chemical is the element human brains work on.  In essence, it's brain food.  It has been known to cause headaches, though.
::Caffeine causes dehydration, hence the headaches.
--LMS
If there's a place for this rot, it's under caffeine, not Coca-Cola.
: BTW, why we don't we specify the amount of caffeine it contains? According to their site it contains 23/85 = 27%  of the caffeine in a coffee "brewed, drip method". So, a 500 ml bottle contains as much caffeine as an average coffee cup. (135 ml) Bogdan | Talk 11:26, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: the formula changes too, can't specify how much whatever is in it.  trade secret too, so not allowed to state ingredients beyond what is  published by coke.  Cal Torrance former minister at Northridge United Methodist Church, Northridge California was 'addicted to coca-cola'  though he could get by on other similar cola drinks.  Could it be reasonably claimed the he was not addicted to coke, because Royal Crown cola could substitute?Pedant 03:47, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Addictive 

message: To our anonymous friend, please see, for example,  on the cocaine thing (and please do not remove that info from the page again). --Camembert
I added a couple references to the cocaine thing... (snopes and one other one) I hope that's okay... Evil saltine 01:25, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Cocaine

message: I read that there is a Peruvian brand that is more popular there and also sold in Mexico. It is something-Kola but not Inca Kola. Do you remember the name?
: Kola Real from the numbers I see is an competitive newcomer, but not the leader (still) -- Error 02:21, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, except for Irn-Bru, though it's starting to look like that brand is toppling as well. GeeJo (t) (c) 01:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Peruvian Kola

message: I removed this:
:The non-governmental organization Greenpeace could also have found a rate greater than the standard criteria and asked for the closing of the production site.
Surely they either did, or they didn't. If their methods are that vague that they're not even sure what they've discovered then I don't think this sentence belongs in the article. -- Ams80 10:26, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: agreePedant 06:48, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Text removal

message: Some of the brands listed are not Coca-Cola brands. I've already removed Schweppes, which is a Cadbury-Schweppes brand, but others listed on this page appear on  Cadbury-Schweppes as their brands. If anyone is sure who owns the brand, could they sort this out?
I think the confusion arises because in some countries, brands like Schweppes are distributed by Coke bottlers (e.g. Schweppes is distributed by Coca-Cola Enterprises in the UK).
 
The system seems a little odd, but basically companies that bottle and distribute Coke are not the same as the Coca-Cola Company itself. See .
Tjwood 12:39, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The list seems to be a copy of the information found at http://www2.coca-cola.com/brands/brandlist.html, and it does list Schweppes. It also lists A&W and Dr Pepper, also brands that are Cadbury-Schweppes brands. If from that page one follows the "print version" link, we reach a different page with the same brands, but with the disclaimer Listed below are the brands included in our 2003 unit case volume. Some are licensed and many are sold only in select locations.. I guess this means that the Coca-Cola company licenses Cadbury-Schweppes brands in one or more countries. It also means that the list as given is polluted, and less useful than it might appear. I'll put in a disclaimer on the article page. Abigail 13:05, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: OHO! Smellum heap big rat here. Is it just possible that counting these other brands that are distibuted by some local Coca-Cola bottlers but have no other connection (and may even be rivals) helps to boost the claimed popularity of Coca-Cola? Andrewa 21:15, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coke Brands 

message: why is it that the english article doesn't mention the period of relationships of coca cola with the nazi government?
I'd be interested to read that, if a translation's available. You could post it on my talk pagePedant 06:51, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between french and english articles about coca cola 

message: added a little info and a link at bottom
it would be nice for the article to talk about what is going on in Colombia and not just mention in reference to US court action
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This section is clearly NPOV, since it's based on accusations made by trade union in which several leaders are suspected of having connections with the FARC and ELN guerrillas, so I'd put a POV alert on this, or remove it altogether!!!
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Can anyone substantiate: "179 major human rights violations, including nine murders; this is undergoing international arbitration.". 
I believe the correct, neutral view is (as summarized nicely in Straight Dope)
1) Colombia only
2) one murder
3) lawsuit filed in U.S. federal court in 2001.  Coca-Cola Company dismissed from it.
*—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.21.87.225 (talk • contribs) 00:25, January 3, 2006.
** I agree.  Go ahead and fix it.  :)  Wikibofh(talk) 14:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coca-cola union abuses in Colombia 

message: The part about the translation being "Bite the wax tadpole" is incorrect. (even the link the author placed says it is discreated it.) It is like the old "Nova" car myth- the translation was always correct.
:Thanks for pointing this out. It was me who had added that part in the article. I guess when I added it the "[Discredited at Bite the Wax Tadpole]" wasn't there in the site or I plain didn't notice it ! I guess the section can be removed from the article then.
:But the snopes site just says that the description is untrue, it doesn't provide any evidence why it is untrue or any origins of the legend if it may be called so. So unlike snopes ! Does anyone here  understand any Chinese ? Jay 15:25, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well someone already removed the Chinese section from the article. Maybe someday Wikipedia will have articles having mention of all urban legends and then your explanation would be helpful. Why don't u sign up as a regular user and make edits. You'll get a talk page of your own. Jay 21:54, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Chinese Name"