Talk:Apple IIc

message: This entry had originally been just a blank (empty) page that automatically redirected you to the Apple II family. I wanted to see that change, so I did just that and changed it--writing up a entire entry on the Apple IIc computer from the ground up. Why? The Apple II line is probably the most important and historically relevant in the history of personal computers, and I've not seen that reflected on Wikipedia. For that reason, and my own personal fondness, interest, experience and knowledge of the machine, I've made it my personal goal of sorts to expand its presence here.
I feel each machine in the Apple II family line deserves its own entry in Wikipedia, rather than just a short blurb written as a few lines of text in the page mentioned above. It is afterall the computer that started it all, the literal grandfather of the personal computer industry we see before us today. I started with the Apple IIe last month (it being the longest lived machine in the line, and at Apple in general) and this article on the Apple IIc is now my second entry, and hopefully not the last.
I've tried to make this article more encyclopedic than a technical in nature. I'll shortly be adding a sprinkling of pictures relating to some the major topics mentioned in the article, making it more interesting. Like any other it's not necessarily finished or flawless, but I hope this contribution will be useful to those who are curious about the history of this model. --Mitchell Spector (--Apple2gs 06:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This entry had originally been just a ''blank''

message: :I would like to know more about the price of the Apple IIc when it was introduced.
:::At introduction, it cost US$1,295 for just the Apple IIc--this included the computer itself, an external powersupply, RF modulator, and some introductory manuals and disks. Other peripherals cost extra, although back then you could make due hooking it to your television set and have a ready to use system out of the box (a joystick for games would be the only thing missing).
:::I have a price list from Apple Canada dated October 1984. In Canadian dollars, the IIc was listed for CDN$1,795, a 9" monochrome IIc screen CDN$315 (with stand an additional CDN$60), carrying case CDN$60, mouse CDN$155, external IIc 5.25 $515. An "Apple IIc starter system" is listed for CDN$1,995 but doesn't specify what it includes.Apple2gs 21:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Apple IIc pricing

message: Okay. Every photograph and scanned image used in this article has been symatically removed, apparently (and unjustly in my opinion) over the minor technicality of incorrect permission/copyright tagging choosen--not the images themselves. Most of these images have had permission cleared from their original source, or are considered fair use images that were used as promotional material by Apple Computer over 20 years ago. In the case of the Apple IIc image taken from the cover of the Apple IIc owner's guide, Apple gave permission to reproduce it and the entire manual.
So I ask, can someone assist in selecting the correct tags so these can stay in place? I must say I am getting extremely turned off by having piece of these articles ripped out that I spent days creating (yes, photos and their captions do make up the article) every other day by automated bots or other Wikipedia users. I put them here to grow, and to share information in regards to these orphaned machines, not see this information blocked. I do value Wikipedia's respect for copyrights, and agree with the basic principle, but people here are TOO over eager to remove images before even verifying their status.
If necessary, I can go through the trouble of photographing these machines from my own collection (as I've already done for the Apple IIc Plus article) but that takes several hours, sometimes days, of work. Hopefully it won't come to that, which is why I would prefer to get some assistance in choosing the correct tags for the existing images. Thanks--Apple2gs 00:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Copyright statuses were verified, and the images were deleted under official Wikipedia image policy by an administrator. If you want to open a dispute, please do so, but not here. The current images being used are from the Wikimedia Commons, a preferred source of images since Wikipedia is meant to be free-content only, not Copyrighted material that has had "permission" to be used. Anywho, no point in disputing this here. — Wackymacs 07:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also...I actually prefer the user-made images to Apple's press material, since it fits in here more. It gives Wikipedia something unique, instead of stuff from Apple everyone has seen before. — Wackymacs 07:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: This is years later, but I find it sad that all of the photos show the Apple IIc incorrectly resting flat rather than with the handle extended to prop up the computer. The user's manual was crystal clear that it should not be used without the handle extended for airflow, and I can attest that it became dangerously hot when used flat. Not to mention hard to type on. My Apple IIc is in storage in another state, but I would invite someone to take some photos in the correct position and upload to Wikimedia commons. — wanderingstan (talk) 13:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: As the creator of this article, I had originally selected professional promotional photos of the Apple IIc (with fair copyright usage) correctly displayed, and without UV discoloration. I could try again all these years later, but there always seems to be some reason for some over zealot editor to pull them down. Not to gloss over the importance of copyrights and permissions, but even with all the necessary steps taken and tags applied, there's always some technicality (it's frustrating to find your photos removed days or months later). I could take a photo of one of my own IIc's (I have an original 1984 model, with beige keycaps, and the 9" Monitor //c with stand) but it's discolored. Like the photos in my IIc Plus article, I suppose I could use Photoshop to whiten things up, but it's preferable to show untouched vintage photos and/or undiscolored hardware.--Apple2gs (talk) 09:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute over current Apple IIc images

message: The article states the 'c' in the name came from the form factor.  (The //c was relatively compact.)  However, the first review I remember (probably either from Incider or A+) stated the 'c' was a reference to the 65C02. Will 06:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name 

message: Recently changes have been made to this article to use binary prefixes (KiB, MiB, kibibyte, mebibyte etc). The majority of reliable sources for this article do not use binary prefixes. If you have any thoughts/opinions then this specific topic is being discussed on the following talk page Manual of Style (dates and numbers) in the sections to do with "binary prefixes". Fnagaton 10:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Binary prefixes 

message: Where the lead calls the IIc “notebook-sized,” is that referring to a notebook computer or an actual notebook? Seems an important distinction. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 05:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notebook?