Talk:Barm cake

message: Just wanted to clarify. I am a Mancunian, and barm is definitely a word we use for certain types of bread. Yes, it is similar to barmy. I always thought it was spelt balm, actually, but that's because it's more a colloquial term that's spoken rather than written. You do get chippies that advertise barm cakes. KillerKat (talk) 21:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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message: This page has been successfully copyedited by The Copyeditor's League. Rintrah 15:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is a bap? ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: In the Northwest of England (South of the region/Cheshire), - a Barm, or Barm Cake, is a soft, flat, round bread roll, commonly used to make a variation of the Chip butty. But in the more rural regions to the North and East of Manchester it is considered that Muffin is the corect term for such a bread product, producing: Chip Muffin, Sausage Muffin, etc.  Supermarkets in the region even have a product called an oven bottom Muffin on sale. 
Yet, in a snack kiosk at the Manchester Airport viewing park the word Barm is used offering sausage and bacon butty bun barms. 
The Barm versus Muffin debate is one that is seems perpetual in the Manchester area even though both sides seem to agree that both products are very similar in design.  The two opposing sides agree that product is definitely not a Teacake, which is considered to be a completely different bread product altogether and is generally found in the Sheffield area.
It may be that the debate is moot since the product is a bread roll.
And yet, perhaps, neither barm nor muffin may be the definitive term for a bread roll; in other parts of the UK, the words such as bap and cob are used.
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*No, it's not a hoax. Proper 'Barm Cakes' are as described. However, many people call the simple bread roll a barm cake too. Supermarkets and bakers sell packs of bread rolls labeled 'Barm Cakes' even though they're not. During my travels in the UK I've come across various names for the same thing. ie. Bun, Bap, Batch, Cob, Roll. Some parts of Lancashire may refer to a 'Barm Joey'. As in ... "I'll have a turkey salad 'barm joey' please, with no mayo on". 80.192.242.187 14:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate over usage

message: As someone from the North West of England the word "barmy" is common currency to describe a person who is a little crazy or 'not right in the head'. It is said that in the days of small bakeries, barm ( a mixture of yeast, water and natural sugars) was kept in the bakery to leaven the loaves. This mixture naturally produced alcohol which, in the heat of the kitchen, was consumed by the bakers after the loaves and cakes were baked. This was a 'perk' of the job and a right of the baker. Given that bakers keep early hours the drinking of the barm probably started mid-morning and given that the barm was alcoholic, it could be said that someone who was drunk on barm would appear to be a little crazy or 'barmy'Greenbat9 23:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barm - Barmy?? 

message: Is anyone actually gonna edit the main page to add this colloquialism? V. interesting theory as to the origin of the word Barmy. And Balm Cake itself can be used to describe someone who's a bit 'balmy', but that, I guess, is just the logical upshot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.202.128.183 (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agree! 

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message: this very greenish looking stuff is supposed to be butter??? 
is the photo's colour ?filter? very off, or is it really some different stuff, or does butter exist in such colour there ? 
maybe a different photo would be good idea?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:3036:263:C8B5:539:C2F9:EEE5:D201 (talk) 14:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo: "Butter"???