Talk:Eric Lock

message: I can't find a reasonable explanation for the half kill. What does it mean?
In the table, we have "November 1940 Royal Air Force Spitfire 2.5 * unknown". According to the table, that would be kill number 20 (a Bf109 shot down in October according to the text?!?) and then 1.5 more. The next line in the table referes to the incident in the section "Shot down".
So what's true here, and what's the 0.5 about?--Niels Ø (noe) (talk) 09:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you asking a general question about how people receive credit for a half-kill? I don't know the specifics of this instance but basically it means you and somebody else were credited with shooting down the same enemy aircraft. There have been people ending up with quarter scores, like Australia's Bobby Gibbes who finished the war with a score of 10.25, which implies he was one of four people to have shared in the same kill. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2.5 in November 1940? 

message: Page 402 of Aces High- C.Shores & C.Williams (Grub Street , 1994) specifically lists all of Lock's claims, derived from the archived RAF combat reports (forms 540 and 541), logbooks and squadron summaries. If my maths doesn't fail me his claims within the accepted period of the Battle of Britain i.e -10th July 1940 to 31st october 1940- is in fact 21. 
There is no other pilot within this acknowledged reference work with more claims in this period - I've checked. Irrespective of what has been published in other accounts, this is a suitably referenced source consistent with Wikipedia requirements , and therefore I respectfully request that the claim total revised and submitted into the entry. Thanks Harryurz (talk) 21:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I hear what you are saying, but such a score significantly rewrites the history of an important statistic in the battle and must be researched and referenced very carefully. To suddenly elevate Eric Lock to the highest scoring slot 68 years after the event must not be taken lightly. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 21:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I think you are misunderstanding me Harryurz. Nobody will be more delighted than me if we can effectively make this change. I wrote this original article and researched the basic material and references. While living in Eric Lock Road, Bayston Hill back in the 1980s I visited Lock's elderly frail sister for tea and chats many times and looked at the original documents the family holds. I think he was a smashing little chap and will dance with joy if your figures can be confirmed and referenced properly. A large number of RAF histories will have to be amended as a result. No, all I was saying is we have to be absolutely sure that the 1994 figures Shores quote are accurate - that is crucial. My concerns were not for Lock's memory, they were for the accuracy and stature of Wikipedia.21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 19:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top scorer in Battle of Britain 

message: Prestfelde is not a "public school" in any sense of the word, nor would it claim to be. It is an independent private preparatory school. So I have deleted the reference to "public". Poshseagull (talk) 08:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prestfelde 

message: The claim made by this pilot was around 7 hours from Lock's loss. Schmid did not shoot him down. Dapi89 (talk) 13:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Johann Schmid]] 

message: There appears to be more detailed information given about his earlier life  (eg his educational career and details of his early career in the RAFVR) in the introductory summary section than in the subsequent sections on his early life, where such detail would be more appropriately positioned. Might the paragraphs read better if their position were judiciously reversed?Cloptonson (talk) 23:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have copied some of those details into the Early Life and Second World War sections but leave it to those who may have worked on this page more than I have to have chance to condense the introductory section tidily.Cloptonson (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detail switch desirable 

message: I've added :Category:Members of the Guinea Pig Club to this article, as Lock's name appears on the "Roll of Honour" memorial to members of the club at the Queen Victoria Hospital, East Grinstead – available here. However, there's nothing in the article to say that he was ever at East Grinstead, which was normally a basic requirement for membership of the club. He was operated on at the Royal Masonic Hospital by Archibald McIndoe, whose main base was East Grinstead. Was Lock in fact (like Richard Hillary) transferred to East Grinstead, so that McIndoe could keep a closer eye on him? Or was he perhaps given some sort of honorary membership of the club by virtue of having been one of McIndoe's patients, despite never having been at East Grinstead? GrindtXX (talk) 23:51, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guinea Pig Club