Talk:Early Scots

message: Ignoring the fact that the topic of the article is a spurious modern construct, and has nothing to do with the history of the era, I'm afraid this article, especially the historical section, is still way below par. Statements like "Through Margaret's influence the Gaelic aristocracy merged with that of the new Anglo-Norman feudal landowners." What does Margaret have to do with Anglo-Norman feudal landowners? Nothing!
See also "Feudalism facillitated the spread of the language through its social structures such as the burghs established by David I, mostly in the south and east of Scotland." Feudalism is a system of military culture, and has nothing to do with burghs. And as it had nothing to do with burghs, and as incoming "feudal knights" did not begin to come and settle in Scotland south of the Forth until the reign of David I - and Scotland north of the Forth until William I and Alexander II, and as French was their language and not English, the relationship between Feudalism and English is spurious, and the relation of both to Margaret is just silly. If that weren't enough, I notice the interesting spelling "The monastries". Is this "early Scots"? :P Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 23:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I had intended just to leave it to someone else, but I went and cleaned up most of the most serious garbage in the article. Hence I removed the tag. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 00:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. Typos aside, the sources are often good on historical phonology and etymology etc. I suppose linguists ain't social historians. Apparently many of them in Scotland use the spurious modern construct. Nogger 00:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Should this be changed?  
:Some orthographic features distinguishing Northern Middle English and Early Scots from other regional variants of written Middle English are:
::The notable use of the Northern subject rule, which according to one hypothesis, is thought to have arisen through contact with the Celtic languages of Britain during the early medieval period. 
:::"The notable use" (etc.) appears to use a capital T to start a sentence, yet it is not a sentence which follows.  Also, it is considered improper to use a colon after the verb "to be" ("are").  I will delete the colon and leave the rest to the author.  (PeacePeace (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No reason to make any change.   The idea that "it is considered improper to use a colon after the verb "to be" " is not set out in MOS:COLON; colons are regularly used after "to be" in introducing lists.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:28, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colon, list, capitalization, sentence fragment? 

message: The map on the page should be corrected:
*many placenames in Hebrides are not Gaelic, but Norse - Stornoway, Lewis, Ericsay, Hecla, Laxdale etc. Norse language was spoken on the islands until 1500-1600's.
*Caithness was largely Norse speaking by 1400. Norse was superceded with Gaelic some time around 1600.
(reference - "The Third Norn Dialect - That of Caithness" (The Viking Congress, Lerwick, 1950))  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FishermanCrofter (talk • contribs) 16:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The map is misguiding: ignores Norse in Hebrides and Caithness around 1400