Talk:Neolithic symbols in China

message: Could someone organize the article better?  Especially the part near the end with all the random occurences of these signs.
Otherwise, really cool page.  It's hard to find coherent information on this stuff, like anywhere.  Just look at the Jia Gu Wen article -even it is in a general state of disarray.
It's funny but predictable how the general Western public allows its interests in ancient scripts and cultures be influence by 1800's colonialism and its intellectual legacy.  Everybody's seen mysterious Egyptian glyphs but nobody has any idea about Chinese written in bronze.  One day I hope to present these origins of Chinese Writing, along with Oracle and Bronzeware Scripts, to the public in a palatable form.  Until then, I guess everyone's just like "What is that?"
Does anybody know the major universities in the U.S. for studying Oracle Bone Script and Bronzeware Script and these "Neolithic signs"-?  I've heard things like Harvard, Yale, and U of California Los Angeles.
Epigraphist (talk) 17:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First thing that came to my mind was "wow!" for the stunning list of print references. Although I'm not sure what's going on in the article (as, what's the topic), I would probably have wanted to see some shocking etymologies like "the woman kanji/hanzi dates back to the stone age!", but I'm probably clichéd. Lysis rationale (talk) 08:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Request]]

message: I'm so sorry it took me so long to get back here and enjoy your response.  Thank-you emmensely.  Sure as shit I'm serious about this stuff.  Someday yours truely is going to be a professor of this stuff.
Actually, in a year I'll have earned my BA in linguistics from Michigan State University.  I hope to get a job with the government translating Mandarin for enough years to get my bearings and pay off my undergraduate loans.  Then it's off to whereever to become what the world needs or expects of a Sinologist or whatever it is they call someone who studies the Jia Gu Wen and the Bronzeware Script for a living.
Just give me a few months more, I'll review all your work on here.  Do not be mistaken at all.  This is THE #1 publication medium of this day and age, Wikipedia.  Billions read your stuff.  If it's not here, the English-reading world doesn't know of its existence, my friend.  People, especially academics, just don't seem to realize this yet.  Information is most accessible over the Internet and despite reliability issues, this is the first and easiest place to look.  People in the know have to capitalize on that or else they're not reaching the people they exist to serve.
I digress.
Thanks again.
Epigraphist (talk) 05:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  And Double Thanks for the Patience 

message: I think that this article has not a neutral tone. In fact there are some comments about the scholar prof Qiu that are unjustified and personal. 
The sentences disputed are in the part about Banpo and Jiangzhai writing: 
"Qiu's comments show his patriotism, but they are not logical." 
and later 
"Therefore, only looking at Shang oracle bone script and modern Chinese calligraphy is biased. Drawing conclusions based on only one of the early scripts shows a lack of consideration for the other groups in China at the time. If all of those groups experienced interbreeding and created the people we have in China today, they deserve credit as well. It seems professor Qiu thinks that "Chinese" only includes modern day calligraphy which has evolved from Shang oracle bone script."
I hope the editor of the page will change this parts.
Thank you for your attention  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.60.83.217 (talk) 16:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The preceeding quotes have been removed by now but I want to draw attention to the Damaidi and Dadiwan claims. Both are sourced only from Chinese government sources, which could have a nationalistic bias to exaggerate such claims. I think these both need more reliable sources. I searched Google for images of the symbols from these two sites. I found no images, anywhere, of symbols from Dadiwan. The rock art at Damaidi looks just like stone age (and Ice Age) rock art all over the world: it's interesting and valuable, but this type of rock art is not called "writing" anywhere else. I saw nothing in the Damaidi photos to suggest the rock art there is any different from rock art in the rest of the world. So why does it deserve special mention as "writing"? 2601:441:4400:1740:3177:7AD6:4BF8:3864 (talk) 17:36, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality of the article 

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