Talk:Sakamoto Ryōma

message: It differs from Find-A-Grave. Lincher 21:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The date of Sakamoto Ryoma's birth is essentially unknown. It is subject to a wide range of opinions, ranging from October 1835 to November 1836.--MChew 15:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: Can someone please fill me in on the reasoning behind transcribing the name 'last-name first'? Traditionally, the Japanese have followed the English sequence when transcribing in an English context. Does Wikipedia have a recommended standard? 
DrZin
:Yes, the official Wikipedia policy is that Japanese people born prior to the start of the Meiji era are listed as family name, then given name. People born after the start of the Meiji period are listed in western order. --MChew 15:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question About Family Name Sequence 

message: Could you let me know some of the texts you've used?  I'm looking at doing a research paper on Sakamoto Ryoma, and I'm curious about what may not be at my local libraries.
SigurdCole 01:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Research references 

message: This whole article reads like propaganda! The Meiji restoration was more modern than the Tokugawa bakufu in only minor ways. It was also more xenophobic and imperialist, unlike the bakufu which dealt with foreigners and didn't, well, invade other countries (and it wouldn't have, after Korea, it became increasingly more concerned with Japan only). But I would like to know how Ryōma was a visionary who envisioned a Japan without any feudal trappings when he supported a god Emperor and I do not know how he was inspired by the example of the United States where "all men are created equal" with a slogan like ‘revere the Emperor and expel the barbarians; it also reads as propaganda of the US which had slaves, segregation and prejudice a lot longer than most civilised nations. Also the article lacks sources. 
Look at the more neutral article for Kondo Isami, who was murdered without a fair trial by the anti-bakufu forces. Nakamura Mondo (talk) 09:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Sakamoto Ryoma is referred to as "Ryoma". Surely it is not Wikipedia's policy to refer to people born before the Meiji era by their given name?RoniGlaser (talk) 19:30, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is policy on English Wikipedia to refer to people by whatever the most common name is in English language sources (see WP:COMMONNAME), regardless of how other languages work.  No English Wikipedia article on persons should feature -san, -sama, or any other honorific unless the English language sources invariably refer to that person with that title (per WP:Honorifics and WP:COMMONNAME).  Otherwise, we have to retitle all articles to include "Mr," "Mrs," "Ms," "Dr," "Sir," "Dame," "Prophet," "Guru," "Swami," "Father," "Bishop," etc...  If this were the Japanese Wikipedia, you might have a point, but in English, using both a person's first and last name is enough of a formality when the purpose is to identify rather than flatter.  Ian.thomson (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And actually, I think it is WP: Japan policy to use given names. I don't completely agree with it, so I won't revert if someone goes changing all the Ryoma's to Sakamoto's, but someone other editor probably would. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's not de jure policy, it's de facto policy: Tokugawa Ieyasu, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and Miyamoto Musashi use their given names. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  On first name terms with Sakamoto Ryoma?  

message: Hi, I'm half Japanese and have learned Japanese history/watched many period movies on this guy.
But I'm not a scholar so maybe I'm missing something.
Why is his name listed with an "o" pronunciation instead of "u"?
Thanks,
98.169.164.190 (talk) 07:37, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First name is read"Ryuuma" in japanese.  Why is it shown as Ryoma? 

message: So basically I was playing Fate/Grand Order and a question was promopty by the character Sakamoto Ryōma in-game if I knew him. Out of curiosity I searched his Wikipedia to understand he was part responsible for the Meiji Restoration.
Scrolling down the article, something caught my eye: the "In popular culture" subheading. I wanted to quickly see if it was written that he is present within the game known as Fate/Grand Order and saw nothing there relating to it.
Immediately, I sprang to action to document his existance in Fate/Grand Order and went on to publish my revisioned edit with citation.
However, I went to look at the history of revisions to find that previous documentations of his existance in Fate/Grand Order have been deleted. And some of those undos is due to the content being deemed unnecessary?
On a side note: surely it can't be deemed as an insignificant addition to the article. Afterall, it is an appearance in popular culture. And, I did source/cite it.
If my revision does get deleted. Could I just ask why?
Cheers. Mixsmirai (talk) 13:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fate/Grand Order