Talk:Nurhaci

message: I have tried to make this a bit clearer and reorganize it. I hope I did not introduce any errors. Please check my edits.--Filll 18:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please check 

message: I've been editing this article in an attempt to streamline and improve clarity, and I cam across something that I don't know how to handle.  Is Taji here just a typo - is it really supposed to be Huang Taiji?  I think it is, so I changed it - but if it ISN'T then it would be useful from the reader's perspective to have an explanation as to who this Taji is, and how he fits into the story...  Anyone know?  Thanks! Isocephaly 00:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huang Taji = Huang Taiji? 

message: According to several scripts like "满洲实录" and  "满文老档" Nurhaci's oldest daughter was named Nunje (嫩哲格格) and not his second daughter. These documents also say that his second daughter was name Yánje (颜哲), third daughter Manguji (莽古济), fourth daugher Mukusi (穆库什) and eight daughter (聪古伦). See also "清初内国史院满文档案" and "聪九档". Althought "清皇室四谱" states that Nunje was the name of Nurhaci's second daughter. Just wanted to discuss this.  
If i'm correct his eldest daughter was named Princess Donggo after she married Hohori from the Donggo clan. Not Princess Dongmu. Her sisters were named Princess Hada and Princess Bira/Zhānhe after marriage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TYK1986 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nurhaci's daughters 

message: Is the date given for Nurhaci's birth correct?
In the Yargiyan Kooli it says "juwan ilaci biya de nikan i daiming gurun i giya jing han i gūsin jakūci sohon honin aniya banjiha", "he was born in the thirteenth month, in the yellow sheep year, the thirty-eighth year of the Jiājìng reign of the Ming".  The thirty-eighth year of Jiājìng began in 1559, which was a yellow sheep year, but the thirteenth month would have actually fallen in Jan-Feb 1560. 138.88.75.94 (talk) 13:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article had contradictory dates of both 8 April and 14 May.  From the Chinese Wikipedia page, it frankly sounds kinda sus like OR for how they derived the exact date.  I kicked it back to just a year, but if someone has a better source, feel free to use it.  SnowFire (talk) 08:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: Aisin Gioro Y chomosome DNA was found in "Xibe, Outer Mongolians, Inner Mongolians, Ewenki, Oroqen, Manchu, and Hezhe" males and number around 1 million people. Their ancestor was Nurhaci's grandfather Giocangga, whose descendants made up the Qing dynasty nobility. But the Y chromosome was not found in the general Han Chinese population.
The Y chromosome cluster is specifically C3c, part of the General Haplogroup C-M217, which Genghis Khan's lineage is a part of, although the Manchu Aisin Gioro Y chromosome is part of a different cluster than Genghis Khan's
The reason it spread among these specific minority groups, but not among the Han Chinese population, is because the Qing Manchu nobility was concentrated specifically in the ethnically Manchu Eight Banners and not in the Mongolian and Han Eight Banners, and the specific ethnic groups which made up the Manchu Eight banners were "Manchu, Mongolian, Daur, Oroqen, Ewenki, Xibe".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1285168/
http://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297(07)63394-1.pdf
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707633941
http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/23
Rajmaan (talk) 21:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qing dynasty Aisin Gioro Y chromosome DNA found in ethnic minorities