Talk:Varna, Bulgaria

message: Hello there! I noticed that the nickname "Bulgarian Las Vegas" has been in the article for a while without a source. Being a Varnese myself, I have never heard of it; my quick Google search gave no results either. So I took the liberty to remove it.
Furthermore, I removed the reference to Golden Sands because it made the sentence somewhat ambiguous and because I do not consider Golden Sands to be more (or less) infamous than the other resorts up the coast.
avitohol 15:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Bulgarian Las Vegas

message: Hello,my name is Ivan Marinov and I am the founder and guitarist of comedy/grunge band Zayo Bayo Gives Me The Creeps and I would like to say on behalf of the band that we have no place in the notable bands list and we simply suck.That is all. Kind regards,Ivan, founder, manager and executive producer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.90.58.31 (talk) 21:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Zayo Bayo Gives Me The Creeps issue

message: Anonimous,
I think you are missing the point here. 
"Vintage songs" is not unused in English: cf. here: http://www.amazon.com/Ride-Daddy-Vintage-Songs-1927-1953/dp/B0007WL7E4 or here: http://www.amazon.com/Junkers-Jivers-Coke-Fiends-1926-1952/dp/B0007WL7DK
Plus, that's exactly what the festival is all about - songs written from the 1940s to the 1980s. "Oldies but goldies" in my opinion is too suggestive of American music, but we can have it like that if you agree. Or "oldtime urban songs"? 
In Bulgaria, "stari gradski pesni" ("oldtime urban songs" = the initial focus of this festival) is a distictive pop genre: in communist times, in referred to popular urban songs from (or sounding as if from) the era before communism (1920s-1940s) - associated with kitschy, phillistine nostalgy. Imagine a choir of older ladies in fox furs singing in surupy voices. 
In English, "sea songs" (or "songs of the sea", as I prefer) suggests to me oldtime sailors' songs, pirate songs. In Bulgarian, "pesni za moreto" ("songs of the sea") are par excellence sugary communist-era love songs involving vacationing on the beach. These were added to the festival focus later.  
Regarding the quotes vs. italics, please have it your way: definitely looks more Bulgarian, although, in my opinion, less English.  
66.65.15.134 00:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: International festivals, Sea and Memories

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	http://clients.ttm.bg/unishipping/portvarna1.htm#ferry
	http://www.maritimechain.com/port/port_search.asp		[Search for Port Name: “Varna”]
	http://www.barwil.com/wbch3.exe?p=300814
	http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/transport/bu-port2.htm
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	http://www.triumphmaritime.dir.bg/pvarna.htm
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	http://maritime.buldata.com/english/portportFerry.html
	http://www.vega.bg/~belltt/terminal.html									[Bulgarian]
	http://www.vega.bg/~belltt/lake.html										[Bulgarian]
	http://www.veslam.com/area.html											[scroll thru site]
	http://www.posford.co.uk/projects/sheets/V-229.html
	http://www.oiltanking.com/terminals/terminal_info.php?uid=&session=&htm=&sub=&item=&id=&t_url=0&t_id=16
	http://www.intertanko.com/portservices/portinfo.asp?pid=560				[$ - PW]
	http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Bulgaria/Varna
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	http://www.martv.com/PORTS/PEUROQ2Z.html#VARNA
	http://164.214.12.145/pubs/	[click “World Port Index”; query Port Index Number “43510”]
	http://www.ceebd.co.uk/ceebd/varna3.gif									[Map]
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	http://www.barwil.com/archive/Europe_-_Pictures/01/03/varna022.jpg		[Aerial Photo]
	http://www.barwil.com/archive/Europe_-_Pictures/01/02/varna026.gif		[Plan]
	http://www.barwil.com/archive/Europe_-_Pictures/01/02/varna027.gif		[Plan]
	http://www.vega.bg/~belltt/port_var.gif									[Plan]
	http://www.vega.bg/~belltt/bellttfl/devnya.gif								[Plan]
	http://www.vega.bg/~belltt/bellttfl/lesport.gif								[Plan]
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	http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/~cannon/medports/PortZoom.gif
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	http://clients.ttm.bg/unishipping/va-east.jpg									[Plan]
	http://clients.ttm.bg/unishipping/va-west.jpg								[Plan]
http://www.navy.mil/homepages/ffg53/bulgaria/Image11.jpg
http://www.travel-bulgaria.com/library/JPG/biu_2434.JPG					[Aerial Photo]
http://www.posford.co.uk/projects/sheets/images/V-229.jpg					[Pix]
http://www.oiltanking.com/localimages/groot/BulgarijeSitePlanlarge.gif		[Plan]
http://www.oiltanking.com/localimages/groot/BulgarijeAreaPlanlarge.gif		[Map]
http://www.ubbsla.org/en/devnya/port_map.jpg								[Plan]
http://www.ubbsla.org/en/devnya/port1.jpg
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:OK, I'll bite: why? What's the point of all these links? By the way, have you noticed what a disorganized mess that list is? You need to learn to use some formatting, either HTML line breaks () or something. +ILike2BeAnonymous 06:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: I have removed Bradford from the list of twin cities. I can find no evidence (except various Wikipedias) for this twinning, and in particular Varna is not listed on the City of Bradford's official web-page (http://www.bradford.gov.uk/life_in_the_community/twin_towns_and_villages) ColinFine 08:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Twins

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message: The figure of 400,000 for the "metro" population still has no citation. The lead paragraph simply says "The actual daily population, including commuters, is widely believed to have made it the country's second-largest city.", but this is not the same thing as "metro" population. Please stop removing this tag until a suitable reference is found, preferably in English. I know that a reliable, official Bulgarian source is available in English because I've seen it in articles here, but I don't know how to find it. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 18:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop removing <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag for metro population 

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message: Please use data for the city of Varna, not the municipality, when reporting the population. Thank you. --Chief White Halfoat (talk) 21:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varna Population - please use data for the city, not the municipality 

message: to my knowledge the city was referred to as "Stalin" between 1949 and 1956(?). why isn't this mentioned here?--87.171.102.235 (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalin? 

message: Are all of Europe's oldest cities located in Bulgaria?  Just about every Bulgarian city article is "one of Europe's oldest cities".  Stara Zagora, Varna, Sofia, Plovdiv, every single one.   What's going on here?  First, this is blatant WP:PEACOCK.    Per WP:PEACOCK, articles are supposed to "Show, not tell".  Saying a city dates back to the 6th century BC shows it's old, we don't need to tell our readers it is.  Second, most of these claims are totally unsourced.  Third, even if they were sourced, a city from the 6th century BC is not among Europe's oldest.  There a LOTS of old cities in Europe.  Lastly, because I'm Greek and I know I'm going to get savaged for it, I will say this:   Look at Greece's old cities:  Chania, Argos, Larnaca, Thebes.  Do any of them say Europe's oldest this, world's oldest that?  No, they say things like "Neolithic remains have been found...".  Zero peacock language.  But when all of a country's city article begin with "one of Europe's oldest cities", there clearly is a problem, and it's not my problem.  --Athenean (talk) 08:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Athenean (talk) why don't you go to the Jericho, Byblos , Gaziantep,Aleppo etc. talk pages to teach the editors there what is " blatant WP:PEACOCK" and remind them that those Greek articles do not say oldest in the world, just to see their reactions . Is this by accident ? Clearly not. So yes you have some problem.--Avidius (talk) 09:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just read the first sentence of Athens. It's not like we're discovering hot water, you know. Your arguments are valid, but directed wrongly. It's not Bulgaria or Bulgarians' fault. Todor→Bozhinov 12:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about them oldest cities? 

message: My dear Bulgarian colleagues and honoured members of the scribbling tribe in Bulgarian Internet society! Would you please stop writing unconfirmed figures about the urban population of Varna? I know very well that the jealous fellows from our eternal rival the town of Plovdiv don't appreciate much the fact, that Varna develops faster and grows in terms of population. But please, let's behave like grown men, I suggest you stop cooking up figures like "375,000" about the urban number, which exist only in your minds. This figure 416,603 is taken from an official document, published by the Ministry of Regional Development and Public Works. Taking into account the fact, that the majority of these short-witted guys don't even speak English, I'm gonna say this in Bulgarian, too: 
Пичове и интернет комплексари, моля, престанете буквално да си измисляте всякакви различни цифри за населението на Варна. Нека да не правим от Уикипедия махленски сбор! Населението на града и урбанизираните около него територии е 416,603 жители според доклада на МРРБ. Същата ми молба се отнася и за населението на другите големи градове в БГ, като например София. Цифрата 1,591,000 е тотално измислена от някой комплексарски мозък.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivan1988-Vn (talk • contribs) 11:05, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varna population figures 

message: Over there, at the end of the section, there's a little (not too big) incoherence of the causality law. Simply said, the battle was 1444 but made "inevitable" the fall of Constantinople in 1443. I see a kind of time machine effect here. Now because I have too little knowledge in the area, I beg somebody to change this disharmony :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikolageneshki (talk • contribs) 21:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Varna 

message: http://www.facebook.com/groups/458127210878543/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.126.6.71 (talk) 15:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protest in Varna 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Varna]] 

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message: Not subtropical humid, because it has a dry month in the summer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.37.171.168 (talk) 20:20, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can see, I see in the climate chart 2 non-summer months which are drier than the driest summer month and the rain is irregular. Better check again the description of humid subtropical climate. --TechnicianGB (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This article states: "Along the Black Sea coast of Bulgaria (Varna), coast of Romania (Constanta and Mamaia), Sochi, Russia and southernmost Ukraine (Yalta) have summers too warm (>22 °C in the warmest month) to qualify as oceanic, no freezing month, and enough summer precipitation and sometimes humid conditions, where they'd be fit to be classed under Cfa."--Quisqualis (talk) 16:33, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: Има си европейска статистика за населението на функционалните градски зони. Моля господата от Пловдив, които постоянно правят корекции в статията за Варна, да се спрат.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.196.133.14 (talk) 15:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Моля да престанете да публикувате измислени данни за населението на градската зона с цел да намалите броя на населението на Варна.  

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message: Asparuch is indo-iranian name, var is indo-iranian word, but they claim, that Varna was named by Scandinavians? In VII century? In fact, such a terms in Old Norse, as Varangians, are loanwords from Scythian dialects, back to 500 BC, amber traders from Bospont, who could settle in what is modern Sweden, among northern Celts and western Uralic people. All of them became proto-Germans, but this doesn't mean, that people from Black Sea shores had forgotten their langauages. Varangians influences in the region before IX century are usually overestimated, and even later, Rurikids quickly became Slavs, not using Scandinavian dialects. Katepano (talk) 07:54, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asparuch and Varna 

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