Talk:Diarmaid MacCulloch

message: Although Professor MacCulloch does not practise as a clergyman, he is nonetheless still an ordained clerk-in-Holy-Orders within the Church of England (unless he has renounced Holy Orders). He should not, therefore, receive the accolade, and ought not to be accorded the title "Sir Diarmaid". However, I wonder whether The Queen has agreed to dispense him from this general rule on account of his having distanced himself from ordained ministry over such a long period of time. It is my understanding that there is no distinction between a deacon and a priest in this regard.--90.206.67.185 (talk) 19:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Queen has styled Professor MacCulloch 'Reverend Diarmaid MacCulloch, Knight' as it is not possible for a clergyman to take the honorific 'Sir'. Consequently he should not be addressed as 'Sir Diarmaid.'  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.156.170 (talk) 13:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

text: I am removing "Sir" again on the basis of this newspaper article which appears to reflect MacCulloch's own comments on the matter. Anglicanus (talk) 13:41, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Although you may be right I have removed "Sir" again pending further discussion and evidence. I very much doubt that being a deacon and not a priest makes any difference.  Also, his own comments are relevant, even if not definitive, as he should be reasonably expected to know the correct situation on the matter. It is sensible to err on the side of leaving "Sir" out until some more definitive evidence can be sourced. Afterwriting (talk) 11:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Correction, another RS here.  However, It's just DMcC saying much the same as he'd said to the Telegraph, at greater length.  Personally, I don't think it remotely adds up, since I fail to see how the style "Revd" precludes "Sir", if you don't in any case include the "Revd".  (He says that "Prof. Diarmaid MacCulloch, Knight" is correct;  for my money, it'd either be "Revd Prof, Knight", or "Prof Sir", take your pick.)  84.203.39.33 (talk) 00:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accolade 

message: Regarding commas after names, it is neither correct or incorrect to have a comma after a person's name before the abbreviations of honours etc.  It is, however, increasingly becoming the standard practice in contemporary British English not to have commas between names and abbreviations.  This is not worth an edit war over but to argue that my removal of the comma was incorrect is, in fact, incorrect. Afterwriting (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not what I said. I do not myself commonly use commas between names and honours or between honours and other honours. However, if there are commas between the honours there should also be a comma between the name and the first honour. You either use one system (no commas) or the other (all commas), adhering to our standard practice of retaining whichever was used by the first author. Mixing the two is certainly not standard practice (I have never seen it used and would like to see a link to an example where it is used by a reliable source), looks thoroughly odd and illogical and is clearly incorrect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commas after names and before abbreviations of honours etc  

message: Please someone change this to a picture that is not blurry.  Surely one can be found?
:A free image not so easily, unless somebody contacts mr MacCulloch directly. Ceoil (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Photograph

message: I'm taking a wild guess that someone with a name like Diarmaid MacCulloch has recent Irish Catholic ancestry.  In an Irish context, the choice of the Gaelic spelling 'Diarmaid' rather than the anglicised 'Dermot' or 'Dermod' would usually signify an Irish nationalist background.  Ordinarily this would not be of great relevance, but in view of MacCulloch's Anglican affiliations and place in the British/English establishment it becomes potentially more interesting.  So I wonder if there is any reliably-sourced information on any Irish connection?86.171.218.76 (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish Catholic ancestry? 

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thread_title:  Bibliography 

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message: This article could mention how this man has appeared on Melvyn Bragg's programme "In Our Time" talking about the Siege of Malta. Vorbee (talk) 21:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearance on In  Our Time