Talk:Albanian mafia

message: I'm sorry if this is not the appropriate way of posting this, but the section of the article relating to Portugal, makes absolutely no sense. The source it uses has no relation whatsoever to what is stated in the article.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.247.198.73 (talk) 23:34, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: www.kosovoliberationarmy.com/AlbanianMafia.pdf
www.drmcc.org/IMG/pdf/4096451b0eb37.pdf (How is the Albanian Mafia setting up locally, nationally and in Europe)
http://londonstreetgangs.setbb.com/post1146.html#p1146 (Albanian Organised Crime in London)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.179.100 (talk) 10:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Some good sources

message: This info has no official link to the Interpol data, only to an article on Kosovo.net:
According to Interpol data, in 1999 just on drug smuggling, the Albanian mafia earned 38 billion dollars.
Two years later in 2001, the profit was 50 billion dollars, and in 2002 the profit was even 70 
billion dollars.
http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/ticker/2004/December_16/39.html
Therefore I have deleted this since it does not provide a direct source to the Interpol data.
POV: Many names, little reliable sources. I think the whole article should be checked by someone neutral --Noah30 (talk) 14:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Interpol source is probably this one , and states "In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization, indicating that it was financing its operations with money from the international heroin trade and loans from Islamic countries and individuals, among them allegedly Usama bin Laden". Looking at the KLA article, is seems that KLA was taken down from that list on February 1998, but it looks certain that it was listed there, I just don't know for how long. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heroin Trade 

message: You can go to numerous websites and find the exact same quotes from different people and websites. Ill try to provide a interpol statistic for it. but take that neutrility thing off. you took the 70 billion dollar thing off and i wont put it back up until i find the interpol source. unless you can find anything else wrong with this article dont NPOV it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Money00912 (talk • contribs) 22:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Truth 

message: This article is pure Serbian propaganda disguised as objective information on a subject that is scattered, arcane,controversial, and undefined. Sources, except two articles, on the Independent are cherry-picked on criminal activities as conducted by some obscure groups or number of individuals that are loosely connected to each other with random acts of violence or criminality. Such a case can be made about many groups and nationalities as diverse as Bulgarian gangs, Serbian thugs left-over from wars, Russian underground mobs, or the mighty Italian Mafia. To try and magnify, misrepresent, blow out of proportion, and hyperbolize about such groups on a national scale with the purpose of tarnishing the image of a country is nothing more than pure, unconstructed, and cheap propaganda that does not merit to be published in here. Add to that that this article directly misrepresents information to suit author's bias. 
For example, the author or authors use an FBI source and claim that the article speaks about how Albanians were active in criminal activities in New York city  since the 1980s. 
"In the United States, Albanian gangs started to be active in the mid-80s, mostly participating in low-level crimes such as burglaries and robberies. Later, they would become affiliated with Cosa Nostra crime families before eventually growing strong enough to operate their own organizations..."
If the reader want to see why this is a lie, please go to footnote # 6, click on the FBI link and read for yourself on what the article says. The FBI talks about Balkan Mafia, not Albanian mafia per se. "Balkan criminal organizations have been active in the U.S. since the mid-1980s. At first, these organizations were involved in low-level crimes, including bank robberies, ATM burglaries, and home invasions...  FBI refers to Balkans Mafia and that may include groups and criminals as diverse as Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, etc.
In addition, author(s) use a site called www.Serbianna.com in two of their sources. Since its inception, this website has been spewing anti-Albanian propaganda 24/7. Please remove the article and restraint from attempting to use isolated groups of criminals, drug traffickers, and other underground activities to tarnish the image of the Albanian people.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luftetari07 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misrepresenting, misusing sources, and spewing anti-Albanian propaganda

message: The article is well based on citation and it holds neutral POV in my view. however, "Myth or reality" section by Basey555 will enhance the article, as such i appreciate his/her effort. I read through the article and I dont find enric naval edition any bias.
Hitrohit2001 (talk) 09:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at my comment on section above, the section Myth or Reality is not based on real statistics of crime, is a personal assessment not based on any published sources, says that the interpol source and other official sources don't exist, and misquotes the Reuter's web to say that there is no That's why I deleted it. I'll probably just go and rework it to make more neutral and take out any original research that I find, since it makes some valid point like " the level of crime among Albanians is no higher than among other ethnic groups in the Balkans." and the lowering of crime on Albania (which has caused the decline on albanian organized crime in turn). However, statements like "which are known to be very biased and dubious" need to be supported by some source or deleted. --Enric Naval (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: After doing thorough research on the matter, I realize that Myth or Reality section is not at all encyclopedic. It is purely local or personal, it is not global. And by global, I mean, what world thinks, its not about Serbian or Albanian view.
Instead of talking about Albanian mafia, this section talks about Serbian deeds. 
Various claims are made here which rely not on substantial evidence but on terms like Many Critics feels that and vast majority of articles talk about.
In some statement it tries to contradict entire article. Hence, It should be speedily removed.
Hitrohit2001 (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth or reality 

message: Kosovo's image: prejudices and realities
By Kosovar Stability Initiative     
Monday, 08 December 2008  
[removed copy/pasting]
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.105.15 (talk) 00:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: removed copy/pasting of a long external article, I put a link to the original source instead.  --Enric Naval (talk) 18:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prejudices and realities         

message: Removed whole paragraph that links the Kanun to the mafia. There isn't one single reference to support those claims. OR activity by the anti-Albanians is to be removed. --Sulmues (talk) 01:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rm of "History" 

message: I removed this sentence that did not fit into the history section about the Kanun.
The leader Meech Rasi was also known as "Big Meech" was invloved in drug trafficking along New Yorks east side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdupont (talk • contribs) 21:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed sentence in history 

message: Hi 
Can you please post here why and to what do you object about my edtting.--MJDANikhila (talk) 10:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning UP  

message: Redinel Dervishaj an Albanian gangster was arrested for murdering a Staten Island man. See: "Suspect wanted for stabbing Staten Island man busted in Chicago" by Doug Auer (March 20, 2012) New York Post This could be added into the United States section. --Vic49  (talk)  21:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albanian gangster "Redinel Dervishaj" 

message: This article is sort of out of control. Let's start with the too long list of allegedly prominent members. 22 people, most of whom are not notable in terms of Wikipedia standards. Much of the list is unsourced. There needs to be a sourced reason for why they're included. I'll re-address the list soon. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: *Feel free to remove anything that is presented falsely. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prominent list 

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