Talk:Ganja Khanate

message: There is some confusion on the dating and naming. The intro says: "Shahverdi Solṭan Ziyad-oglu Qajar became the khan of Ganja in 1554.[3]" Then in the list lower on the page the first khan links to the page that says: "Shahverdi Khan Ziyad-oghlu Qajar, (died 1760) was the first khan of Ganja from 1747 to 1760." This is a huge discrepency and should be corrected. The source of the first reference does say 1554. So perhaps this is referring to two khans that have the same name??? Youngkyf (talk) 11:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Dating Confusion

message: added the quote: "Thus Gandja, on the pretence that from the time of Tamara it had really belonged to Georgia, though long lost to that country owing to the weakness of her rulers, was invaded, the capital city of the same name stormed after a month's siege (2nd January 1804), Djavat Khan killed, and the khanate annexed. "Five hundred Tartars shut themselves up in a mosque, meaning, perhaps, to surrender, but an Armenian told the soldiers that there were some Daghestanis amongst them, and the name was a death-signal for all, so great is the exasperation of your Majesty's troops against those people for their raids into Georgia and the robber war they carry on," [1] but all the women in the town were spared -- a rare occurrence in Caucasian warfare, and due to Tsitsianoff's strict injunctions." 
Source: John F. Baddeley, "The Russian conquest of the Caucasus", London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1908, p. 67, citing "Tsitsianoff's report to the Emperor: Akti, ix (supplement), p. 920". --AdilBaguirov 04:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: user:Azerbaijani, you are not correct to claim: "Tartar did not necessarily mean Azerbaijani's, or Turkic speakers." Actually, it is an academic consensus, even from Armenian researchers, that Tartar/Caucasian Tatar/Muslim/etc all refers to Azerbaijanis. An overwhelming proof is listed below (in future, refrain from such unilateral editings, discuss everything please). Meanwhile, your comments are applicable to other countries, such as Iran, where when authors write "Persian" they mean any Iranian, whether Turkic, Semitic, Caucasian or Iranic in origin. --AdilBaguirov 03:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are all of those links for? Also, Tartar was a broad term, in some instaces it was a general term which referred to Muslims and yes, you are very correct, it does resemble the way the term Persian is/was also used by the West. But you cannot put such a POV insertion as that in, assuming what the author of that quote meant himself. That is against Wikipedia policy.Azerbaijani 04:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Mine is not POV -- it's supported by all of the above, stating firmly that Tatar/Tartar = Azerbaijanis. You are pushing a POV when denying this verifiable and long-established fact. Especially in relation to Ganja -- and who you think were those "Tatars", some unknown, faceless people? --AdilBaguirov 04:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Russians called all Turkic speakers "Tatars", and the only Turkic people living in the territory of Azerbaijan were Azerbaijanis. How can anyone dispute this? Grandmaster 06:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Azerbaijani's disruptive edit 

message: The discussion above established a consensus that the term "Muslim principality" is far too broad. User AdilBaguirov's sources, establish the khanate as an Azerbaijani khanate. The lead should reflect according to the consensus and sources. I adjusted the article. Mursel (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 2015 lead changes 

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