Talk:Nursing diagnosis

message: And ICD 10 code is required to get paid. A NANDA nursing "diagnosis" isn't.  The only reason to perpetuate the ND is to sell books for colleges. You can get rid of the subject altogether and still be a nurse. Indeed, the "Joint Commission" (another for-profit agency, self regulated, and selling it's quality checks...) has declared that you don't need a nursing diagnosis to get paid anymore. That's been true for many years.
Perhaps a section on criticism is needed.
Blondesareeasy (talk) 18:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference 

message: NANDA-i holds copyright on intellectual property and seeks payment for the sale of rights, making the language commercial rather than scientific.
This commercial interest should be declared. 
reference NANDA terms and conditions
Tradimus (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Undeclared Commercial Interest

message: It is not impossible or even unusual for several alternative diagnostic systems to co-exist simultaneously, as is the case with the 	DSM-5 and ICD-10.
There is at least one alternative to Nannda-i not mentioned in the article.
The World Health Organization has accepted the ICNP into the Family of International Classifications. - but these are not defined so cannot be taught or used clinically, these are for computer use as reference terminology  
* World Health Organization Family of International Classifications contains diagnoses and can be used as such.
* ICNP
Ref1. Rutherford, M., (Jan. 31, 2008)  "Standardized Nursing Language: What Does It Mean for Nursing Practice? "OJIN: The Online Journal of Issues in Nursing. Vol. 13 No. 1. 
Ref2. Hardiker & Rector (2001) Structural Validation of Nursing Terminologies JAMIA 2001;8:212-221 doi:10.1136/jamia.2001.008021
Tradimus (talk) 14:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternatives to NANDA-i missing

message: This section is supported by a single reference. Alternatives exist to this description of the diagnostic process, such as Marjory Gordons clustering of data. The term Implementation is also the name given to the stage at which the nurse takes action based on their diagnosis, as such I  believe this terminology confusing and I suggest renaminging implementation. 
In this illustration, the sequence of steps has the hypothsesis stage follow the nursing assessment.  Presumably during  assessment the nurse has the opportunity to make measurements or collect data to support a hypothetical diagnosis which she is yet to formulate, The hypothesis stage would more logically occur prior to the health assessment, yet assessment is not research and the word diagnosis (Literally: "through knowledge") presumes the existence of criteria on which the clients problem could be identified . In reality these stages often occur out of sequence or simultaneously and some may find this version reductionist, as opposed to holistic. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2702.2009.03012.x/abstract
Further, there is a subtle and complex point to be made here, that diagnosis may be less important to nursing than to a related field called Health informatics. To use an example from another discipline, in australia the medical benefit schedule [1] is a list of item numbers or procedures which can treat related conditions, this classification system is fascinating and pivotal in that it governs funding. Health care taxonomy is entirely concerned with health care occurences but is not, in itself, health care.
Henderson, V (1987) Nursing Process: A critique Holistic Nursing Practice:May 1987 - Volume 1 - Issue 3 - ppg 7-18
Vancoe, C. (1996) Disparagement of the Nursing Process: The new dogma. Journal of Advanced Nursing Volume 23, Issue 1, pages 120–125, January 1996
--Tradimus (talk) 02:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I also found  which isn't from NANDA, but I can't seem to find any NANDA stuff now. I might look it up next time I'm at school. Matt 01:42, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, that seems to be a critical, balanced look at the problem.  I would like to paraphrase the conclusions from that article, which would mean replacing the current criticism. --Viriditas  | Talk 01:58, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The section entitled "The process of diagnoses" 

message: how we write a diagnosis  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.22.131 (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: how to write a diagnosis

message: More explanation and please avail us 
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thread_title:  Nursing diagnosis