Talk:Gallipoli

message: How did this become a 'founding myth'? Gaurav
The Battle of Gallipoli is known simply as Gallipoli in Newfoundland. Newfoundland was the only country in North America to commit troops to the battle as the Royal Newfoundland Regiment fought alongside Australian and New Zealand forces in the Gallipoli Campaign. BmPower, April 27,2005
:Country?--Greasysteve13 09:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "The Dominion of Newfoundland was a British dominion from 1907 (before which the territory had the status of a British colony) to 1949." Wikipedia article: Dominion of Newfoundland 66.234.222.23 (talk) 08:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Because the Newfoundlanders arrived in September, I think it would be useful to clarify their presence.  I am not attempting to belittle their contribution, but for Australians and New Zealanders the battle is remembered for the dawn landing followed by months of entrenchment close to the shore facing the Turks - only the latter experience applies to the Newfoundlanders (the comment in the article was: "The soldiers arrived expecting action and excitement. They were soon disappointed; they spent the first few months digging trenches and keeping long night watches").  Clarification would help against reversion of the Newfoundland reference. It would also be useful to know how Newfoundlanders commemorate their participation. --AYArktos 21:17, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 08:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth 

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*Oppose Common name throughout the British Commonwealth -- Philip Baird Shearer 14:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: He is quoted in the article as saying:
: "I do not commend you to fight, I commend you to die."
But wasn't what he said closer to the following:
: "I do not command you to fight, I command you to die." -- llywrch 01:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is the truth: Edward J. Erickson, Ordered to die. A history of the Ottoman Army in the First World War. Westport/London: Greenwood Press, 2001, xx11 +265 p. --134.155.99.42 (talk) 02:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mustafa Kemal's speech 

message: There was no 'Battle' of Gallipoli. The correct term in English is 'Gallipoli Campaign'. A campaign consists of a series of battles. Some of the battles fought at Gallipoli were 'The Landing', 1st Krithia', '2nd Krithia', 'Sari Bair', 'Scimitar Hill' and 'Hill 60'.  Hayaman (talk) 03:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''''Battle'''' of Gallipoli 

message: For a discussion on the historical use of the word 'Anzac' as opposed to the acronym for the army corps 'ANZAC', see [here ]
Hayaman (talk) 03:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Anzac''' 

message: can we have a disambiguation page? gallipoli campaign, place, movie? i'm sure there are more.  it'd make life easier. or is that old fashioned?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.36.169 (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gallipoli (disambiguation) already exists.  Perhaps you mean it should be moved here, and this page moved to Gallipoli (Turkey) or to Gallipoli peninsula?  If so, I agree.  Regards, Ben Aveling 21:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any objection if I make the move?  Regards, Ben Aveling 12:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguation? 

message: As Gelibolu and Gallipoli are the same place, it would be best to merge the two, with an appropriate redirect. Although "Gelibolu" is the Turkish usage,  "Gallipoli" is the usual English language version and this article is the most developed, so I propose the merge into Gallipoli. Folks at 137 (talk) 18:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: Rerated article as "start". No way is it "B", since referencing is incomplete and the subject is confused - is it about the town or the peninsular - it's not indicated by the title which is linked to by articles that assume the town. Some projects have criteria for "B" status; it might be useful to consider them. Folks at 137 (talk) 18:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating 

message: :I reverted a recent edit which changed (in only one instance) Constantinople to Istanbul.  The edit summary given for the change was that the city was known as Istanbul after the Ottoman conquest in 1453.  This is not correct.  The city was called Istanbul in common Turkish usage, but it was officially Kostantiniyye from the conquest in 1453 up until the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1923 as well as most of the rest of the Islamic world.  Outside of the Islamic world, the city was known mostly as Constantinople but also as Tsarigrad (Slavic countries) as well as Stamboul, a variant of Istanbul.  Istanbul did not become the official name until 1923, within Turkey, and internationally in 1930 with the Turkish Postal Service Law of that year which began the return of packages and letters not addressed as Istanbul.  Since the event in the Gallipoli article take place in 1915, when the city was still predominantly known as Constantinople (and Kostantiniyye in the Islamic world), the correct usage would be Constantinople for that time. Age Happens (talk) 07:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Kalippolis" is the Greek name transliterated into English while "Callipolis" is the Romanized version. It was once routine in Europe and the West to use Romanized names but in that past half-century or so the transliterated Greek has been gaining favor in both scholarship and journalism. See Romanization of Greek and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek) for more on this. This article uses both versions, but not necessarily with consistency to the time period where it is named. When Attila captured the city in 443 it was certainly Roman, so I will change the spelling to Callipolis. This is not to say the city was not predominantly Greek in language, but that the Greek world was Romanized at this time. However, I am not an expert on this period so revert if you know better. —Blanchette (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constantinople or Istanbul 

message: ::"Kalippolis" is the Greek name transliterated into English while "Callipolis" is the Romanized version. It was once routine in Europe and the West to use Romanized names but in that past half-century or so the transliterated Greek has been gaining favor in both scholarship and journalism. See Romanization of Greek and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek) for more on this. This article uses both versions, but not necessarily with consistency to the time period where it is named. When Attila captured the city in 443 it was certainly Roman, so I will change the spelling to Callipolis. This is not to say the city was not predominantly Greek in language, but that the Greek world was Romanized at this time. However, I am not an expert on this period so revert if you know better. —Blanchette (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also, Kallipolis or Callipolis? 

message: I have added in one or two sentences about the landings and the subsequent failure to take advantage of the initial lack of oppossition, allowing the Ottoman Empire to pour in reinforcements. Please feel free to change or delete as you see fit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willski72 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the Campaign 

message: This is listed in Music on the Dutch page for the battle of Gallipoli.  It says The Sweedish heavy/powermetal band Sabaton brought the Album The Art of War out in 2008 with a number over the battle of Gallipoli: Cliffs of Gallipoli.
De Zweedse heavy/powermetal band Sabaton bracht in 2008 zijn album The Art Of War uit met daarop het nummer Cliffs of Gallipoli.
I think this is a nice addition to the article as the song is very good and it teaches history in a way that is easy to remember.  Music  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clwijnen (talk • contribs) 13:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: As someone wrote above, this article reads like a school essay. It has way too few sources and makes sweeping statements like Anzac Day is the most important national day of commemoration for Australians. I don't want to go through and put  everywhere, but something needs to be done. Anyone? Rumiton (talk) 12:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
No consensus for any move. bd2412 T 20:37, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good notice, I'm changing Gallipoli to Gallipoli, Çanakkale, per primary topic. Gallipoli is already a disambiguation page, no need to became the article about the city.Alexikoua (talk) 00:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Gallipoli is about the peninsula, not a disambiguation page, and thus the default WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. This move would still change that by declaring no primary topic, and I think it's correct that the peninsula is. --BDD (talk) 00:59, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Clarification: I oppose the first move and support the second. --BDD (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

text: @victor falk: I assume that the oppose vote concerns only the first request (the second one is unrelated to any disambiguation) .Alexikoua (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad assumption. Natural disambiguation is still disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 23:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. walk victor falk talk 00:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: * Gallipoli → Gallipoli peninsula
* Gallipoli (disambiguation) → Gallipoli
As in WPs of other languages I propose to move this article about the Gallipoli peninsula to it's appropriate Lemma and move the disambiguation here. Then it's really clear that this term has many meanings. Btw: yes, I know that much links here - and it will be a big work to adapt all these links; but I consider that it is worth it. --ProloSozz (talk) 11:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Proposition