Talk:Nursing process

message: I have replaced the schoolnurse.jpg image with a commons image of a nurses chatelaine, like the process, I felt this was a tool of the trade. I removed references to the previous image as I am not sure how to strike through. --Tradimus (talk) 15:44, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Image: Chatelaine

message: As part of a review of all nursing wikiproject articles, I have changed this article's importance to mid per Wikipedia:WikiProject Nursing/Assessment#Importance scale.  I have also added C class. If you disagree, please leave a note here so we can discuss it.  Cheers, Basie (talk) 06:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:NURSE]] priority review

message: the 4 nursing processes are,
assessment
planning
implementation
evaluation, these are the 4 important points that we deal with.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.148.98.16 (talk) 09:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: This text needs relocating to a suitable place. What is needed here is a fairly short description of the fundamentals of the Nursing Process, something about the notable textbooks and their authors and some kind of geographical perspective e.g are there areas where it has not been adopted? Access to the records: who is permitted to study the records and what happens to them when the patient leaves the hospital? It must be used outside hospitals in other nursing situations.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 00:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: One textbook: Jean McFarlane was the author of a number of studies, notably A Guide to the Practice of Nursing Using the Nursing Process, 1982.
Another textbook Watson, J (1999) Postmodern Nursing and Beyond. 
Kim HS (2010) The nature of theoretical thinking in nursing.
Kitzman (2010) Understanding the work of nurse theorists: a creative beginning
Where should the text be replaced to? Some of the issues which emerge from the nursing process belong in classification: nursing theory or nursing philosophy. For example, there are broadly speaking three paradigmatic approaches, the totality paradigm which we see amply respresented in this article, typically claiming that the total reality of the client can be known and quantified, the simultaneity paradigm or the constructivist paradigm which posits that the reality is co-created for client and nurse, also the relational paradigm in which the nurse client interaction constitute the substance of nursing through which practise flows. The nursing process as identified here represents only one possible version of nursing process. Debate about legitimation of these approaches in nursing tend to be academic, but impact the validity of what is written.--Tradimus (talk) 16:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs replacing 

message: In order to show that Nursing Process is robust and timeless, there needs to be critical thinking.
For example, authors who have shown the nursing process limitations, strengths, flexibility.
Evidence of use of the nursing process or research on utility in clinical practise are needed here. Furthermore it concerns me that the nursing process, articulated through the model of the nursing process has convergence with the biomedical model which some claim the nursing process replaces. --Tradimus (talk) 15:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Critique of Nursing Process Missing

message: The article claims that the nursing process is a deductive reasoning process, yet if one tests this claim by placing the nursing process into a deductive formula, for example
1. All men are equal
2. Socrates is a man
3. Therefore socrates is a man
wikipedia deductive reasoning
Applying this formula to the nursing context, you come up with something like 
1. Clients with dysfunction A will exhibit symptom B
2. This client assessment shows symptom B
3. Therefore this client has dysfuncton A
The same principle applies when considering the appropriateness of nursing interventions to address client problems. The Success of various interventions relies on probability, in some cases clearly supported by meta-studies, but success remains probable and not certain. Deductive reasoning has the criteria that the conclusions reached should be the only possible: however, the client may experience symptom B for some other reason and the control of variables in a human health assessment does not always exclude these. I argue that the nursing process should be, and is in fact, an inductive process, that is to say, based on the balance of probabilities. --Tradimus (talk) 15:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: disputed claim