Talk:André Gide

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message: :"In 1923 he conceived a daughter named Catherine with another woman, Maria Van Rysselberghe."
This is probably wrong. I think it should actually be replaced by
:"In 1923 he conceived a daughter named Catherine with Elisabeth van Rysselberghe, daugther of Maria van Rysselberghe and the painter Théo van Rysselberghe, a couple of Gide's friends.
Can anybody confirm this? I am not very sure about these things. Thanks. --Edcolins 12:12, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
::Catherine was the extramarital daughter of André Gide and Elisabeth van Rysselberghe. As Théo van Rysselberghe (and his wife Maria) were very good friends with André Gide (and his wife Madeleine), the birth of his granddaughter, fathered by his best friend, incurred his displeasure. But in the end his accepted this birth.  JoJan 19:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daugther... factual accuracy questioned. 

message: After finishing the four volumes of The Journals of Andre Gide, I turned to Wilkepedia for some dates and background.  I find Gide introduced as simply a French author and a "spokesman named Gide for gay rights."  Although certainly in the journals (excellent) there is homosexual reference in terms of Alex's friendship with Proust, etc., and Gide's somewhat mysterious lovers, those references are certainly side ones and the depth and breadth of Alex's achievement, in terms of his grappling with literary achievement and form, religion, the subconscious, and so many other areas, are what really come acros in the journals (and novels).  Certainly reference to Alex's obscured homosexuality might find a prominent place in your discussion of his life and achievement, but "spokesman for gay rights" seems rather absurd, if only because "gay rights" surely was not a championed cause, by that name, in either France or the English speaking world during Gide's long lifetime.  I am by no means a Gide specialist, but I know enough of his life and work to understand that Wilkepedia's article on him is both oddly skewed and surely guilty of reading the terminology of our recent gender discourse into a complicated life that, I suspect, deserves more complexity than such a label suggests.  Yes, the four volumes of the journals touch on a universe of issues, and homosexuality (although not "gay rights") is one of them.  Give that subject and important place in your essay here, but encourage someone with a greater sense of Gide's life and work to deepen the essay and also complicate the essay's "introduction." [by anonymous contributor]
:Thank you very much for your remark. I have added a note in the article to highlight that the statement "spokesman for gay rights" might not be correct and accurate enough, as you have pointed it out. Let's wait the reply of other contributors, otherwise, the statement "spokesman for gay rights" will be removed or rewritten. --Edcolins 19:31, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
:: You can write that he is very open in his books about his homosexuality, for instance in his souvenirs in North Africa , see Si le grain ne meurt .
In the Wikified article there are the sentences : "In 1893 and 1894 Gide traveled in northern Africa. He befriended Oscar Wilde in Algiers and there clearly recognized his own pederastic orientation." It strikes me that there is no evidence for the implication caused by the wording of these, namely that meeting Oscar Wilde  was somehow connected with Gide's recognition of his 'pederastic orientation. 
The concept of 'pederasty' is itself problematic without all kinds of link exploration. (What is the term for adolescents who are attracted to older persons?)
At any rate it would seem that Gide was often violating various French laws and would have needed to make deals to stay out of prison. How come his diary entries are accepted so readily when it comes to Herschel Grynszpan's relationship with Ernst vom Rath? Sounds like Gide was attracted to Herschel Grynszpan. 
Oldcitycat 00:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "It was Oscar Wilde and Alfred Douglas who introduced André Gide (1869-1951) to pederasty in Algeria," is from The Knitting Circle, a generally reliable website. I seem to remember the same, perhaps from "Si le Grain ne Meurt"? I am not sure what to make of the rest of your post. Haiduc 01:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very interesting. But why do you question Gide's veracity? Does anyone have info on where to find this in the diaries? Haiduc 12:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't the titles be in English? Zigzig20s 01:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the list should be in English, and then on each specific page the original title should be mentioned? Zigzig20s 02:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  list of works 

message: Here we have an individual who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature, yet there is hardly any serious discussion of his literary work with the article heavily focusing on his sex life.  Either this article is deficient or the Nobel was undeserved.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.28.241.5 (talk) 06:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I came here looking for information on which work he got the Nobel Prize for and couldn't find it.--Snowgrouse (talk) 12:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Needs More Treatment of his Literary Work

message: Apparently Gide played a quite sigificant role in getting him out of the Gulag. AnonMoos (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: Much of David Walker's work has been on Gide; that publications page may provide some leads for adding more info here. Noticed via the gay icons project. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 08:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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