Template talk:Wikia

message: Wikicities is not a Wikimedia sister project. The sister projects, which get special box-like templates, are listed at Wikipedia:Sister projects. Other external websites get no special treatment, regardless of whose servers they run on or whose software packages they use. See e.g. :Template:imdb, :Template:wikitravel, :Template:memoryalpha. --Quuxplusone 06:42, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why we see it as a bad thing to give it a box. -- Ned Scott 00:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why this template matches [[:Template:imdb]] and not [[:Template:wiktionary]]

message: It strikes me as slightly counter-intuitive to link Wikia first and have the wiki as the second link;  and similar templates have the target external link as the first linked item. Should this template be reworded to make the wiki the first linked item? --Muchness (talk) 01:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely counter-intuitive. We could either reword it, or simply remove the Wikia link. Feezo (Talk) 21:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Formating

message: This was recently removed from the expanded form. Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, a Wikia wiki has been changed to Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, an external wiki Why? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking of [[wikia]] 

message: I've reverted the edits which changed this into an instance of  for now. The new output format when pointing to the main page is suboptimal; I think this should be improved prior to deprecating this template. There is no urgent need to make this change; we can take our time with it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've finally had another go at this. The switch has been reimplemented at template:wikia/list, and  updated to use it. Have a poke about to see if this works. If so, I'll update the documentation and the forked version can be eliminated. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's good work, it looks quite functional to me.  Good call, separating the wiki list from the main template.  I'm going to think about this, perhaps later this evening I might try to re-implement the Edit-button feature from WikiaNew.  Also, I still think this template should call attention to the fact that these are Wikia wikis (even though it makes the output text longer).  LobStoR (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

text:  Forgot to mention - I still think that we should deprecate user input for wiki titles.  If an editor is unhappy with the display name provided, they can update the template's list, and discuss it there.  This improves consistency across articles - for instance if multiple Star Wars articles on Wikipedia all link to Wookieepedia, there should be no reason that one article says "The Star Wars Wiki" and another says "Wookieepedia".  This will encourage editors to agree on a standardized name in one place (ie "Wookieepedia: The Star Wars Wiki" would be a good compromise of the two).  The problem is that this basically deprecates the WikiTitle input, so users will still have to type it in, even though it serves no purpose (which is why I was leaning towards a fork, due to the incompatible interfaces of three inputs vs four). LobStoR (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undoing merge just now 

message: Currently, the template uses class=plainlinks to remove the external link icon... I think it looks better as a plainlink, but it would make it may make it more clear to the reader that they are leaving Wikipedia if we keep the normal external links.  Examples:
* Google (normal external link)
* Google (plainlink)
So, should we set this template to show the little icon for external links?  LobStoR (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: External links are suppose to look different so it is clear to the reader, what is and what isn't an external link.--Otterathome (talk) 12:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I correct myself - the template does not use class=plainlinks, it uses the namespace Wikiasite:___, so it seems to be "endorsed" that Wikia links may be displayed without the external link icon... Where would be the proper place be to discuss that (as I agree that external links should have an icon)? LobStoR (talk) 12:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The icon thing has probably been brought up and rejected before, try searching the archives.--Otterathome (talk) 12:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mean a custom icon, i just mean the External link icon (that Wikipedia automatically generates). LobStoR (talk) 12:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reason to change the format, Wikia is not associated with Wikipedia so does not get any special treatment in regards to WP:SPAM and WP:EL.--Otterathome (talk) 13:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: It's there for convenience, see meta:Interwiki_map. It's to do with the mediawiki interface, so don't know if you can change it.--Otterathome (talk) 13:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link or plainlink? 

message: The recent spate of edits don't appear to have been particularly well-tested and have caused random fallout over the various transclusions. Requesting revert to this revision until such point as the editor in question takes the time to discuss changes prior to implementing them. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please refer to comments in this discussion. LobStoR (talk) 15:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see the relevance of those comments. Significant changes have been made to the template beyond those discussed there, and several editors have questioned them. All of those should be reverted for now pending dicussion as they've impacted a large number of articles. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   (made just moments prior to the protection) that is currently breaking the template.  Therefore, I propose that  become the current golden standard, or the fixed version in the sandbox.  LobStoR (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Even that version introduces unwanted whitespace. I'm not comfortable with the current codebase as it evidently wasn't sufficiently tested prior to implementation. The revision I suggested was. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, the whitespace (that I think you're talking about) came from edits to Template:Wikia/list.  I just updated that.  Either way, I agree that this template needs to be changed (whether a revert or an update), as right now it will display a broken link if INPUT3 has spaces in it.  LobStoR (talk) 15:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: RV'd to old version for now, w/ no opinion on proposed changes. This needs to be reviewed by an admin with a good working knowledge of template syntax (i.e. not me). ˉˉanetode╦╩ 16:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for bringing it back to a functional state.  LobStoR (talk) 16:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit: it's actually still broken.  Please see version I mentioned in note 4, above.  LobStoR (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sigh, I should have been more thorough in checking the versions, both reverts appeared to work based on a small random sampling of transclusions. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 16:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur, I've checked a few and confirmed this copy is working. LobStoR (talk) 16:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert until edits are discussed 

message: Ok, now that the template has been reverted to a working version, I have implemented an updated version in Template:Wikia/sandbox.  It is fully functional to all of expected behavior from the current template.  Updated features include External URL links instead of inter-wiki links, and easier-to-read code layout.
* Current
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* Sandbox
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Please comment if you agree or disagree with these proposed changes.  LobStoR (talk) 16:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me. (Why does the sandbox have a dedicated /doc page, by the way? Ideally if it deviates from the main template's usage then it should use the "content=" flag on  rather than having an entirely separate set of documentation.) Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I duplicated the doc page so that it would use the sandboxed template in its examples.  If you know of a better way to accomplish that, by all means, code away (I'm still relatively inexperienced with templates - this one has been a learning experience for me).  Cheers!  LobStoR (talk) 20:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just copied the sandbox to the template for you. --CapitalR (talk) 22:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested modification (pt.2)

message: A glitch was identified at Template talk:Memoryalpha that links with special characters have problems, stemming from the use of anchorencode:
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The sandbox has been reverted to use the Wikia:___ namespace.  Please check over, and when satisfied, copy over to the template.  LobStoR (talk) 02:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Memory Alpha glitch

message: Can  be changed to . Any maybe even moved into the doc subpage. It's only used on 3700 pages. Thanks. -- WOSlinker (talk) 09:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  High-risk/-use 

message: Wikia is a commercial site with lots of rather obnoxious advertising (see a recent thread at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist). Still, we are favoring them over many other sites by using an interwiki link to link to them. That has more effect than just hiding the external link icon: it also removes the nofollow attribute from the link, giving these links more Google prominence than other (perhaps more helpful or less ad-ridden) links. I would suggest we stop treating Wikia as an almost sister site (they're not) and start linking with standard external links using our usual standards. So I propose to edit this template to use external instead of interwiki links. Kusma (talk) 06:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External instead of interwiki links 

message: Wikia isn't the only Wiki site in the world, the template should say say it is Wikia wiki.
For example:
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* 
* 
From those, all we know is that it's another Wiki on the subject.--Otterathome (talk) 20:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that it is so important to mention who owns the site. Anyway, "Discordipedia, a Wikia wiki" sounds a bit strange unless you already know very well that "Wikia" is just the name of a wiki farm company, and I don't think we need a link to Wikia on every article that happens to link to a Wikia wiki article. Kusma (talk) 20:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I think 'an external wiki' is fine.  No need to add verbiage, IMO. Protonk (talk) 23:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I think I was the one who originally changed the wording from mentioning Wikia specifically. The idea being that Wikia really doesn't change the content side of those Wikis. Wikia is like a cross between a hosting site and a community support network. However, the content on each individual wiki can be very unique, and it doesn't really matter if it was on Wikia or not. It's kind of like WP:SELF, in that we focus on the content rather than the meta side of things. -- Ned Scott 04:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikia Identification 

message: Instead of showing:
*K-9 on TARDIS Index File
it now shows
*K-9  on [1] 
This used to show right, but I am unable to trace to the point where it went wrong.  — Edokter • Talk •  22:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem was at . I reverted and added a protection request at WP:RFPP. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 08:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Semiprotection would have been more than adequate here. Sigh. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does the Wikia name not show 

message: The current system of linking with this template sends people to the equivalent of Special:RecentChanges on a Wikia wiki. It would be preferable to link to the mainpage of a wiki.
*Current way of linking: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c: sends to → http://.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
::Example: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:halo sends to → http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
*Possible better way: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c::Main_Page sends to → http://.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (which is always the main page, or a redirect to the main page)
::Example: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:halo:Main_Page sends to → http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
::::Or, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:fallout:Main_Page sends to → http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page which redirects to → http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki (the main page)
--Gardimuer (talk) 23:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current way of linking sends people to Special:WikiActivity 

message: I suggest not using Halopedia as a reference in the usage examples. I'd rather have a wiki that had not split up with Wikia, like Red Dead Redemption for example.--98.229.75.253 (talk) 08:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not using Halopedia 

message: #Looking at the examples table, what's the difference between one and two inputs ?
#what's the idea of a "FakeWikiName" ? Why does it suffix the given name with "pedia"?
#What's deprecated about "WikiTitle" ?
--Jerome Potts (talk) 07:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't understand anything 

message: This text is redundant, incongruous and distracting, and ought to be removed. "*Title at WhateverWiki" is sufficient and properly consistent with the rest of . Skomorokh 13:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, and i would add that i think that the output should state "on Wikia", to be more thorough and to give credit where is due. --Jerome Potts (talk) 11:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "...an external wiki" 

message: For some Wikia wikis, we have an article on Wikipedia about them e.g. Wookieepedia and Memory Alpha. For these, the 2nd link should ideally link to our article instead of to the wiki's homepage. I changed the  as an example, and  already does this. Even if we don't have an article about a specific wiki, I think we should link to Wikia instead of the wiki's homepage e.g. "John-117 on Halo Nation, a Wikia wiki". Otherwise we are linking to the wiki twice. --Odie5533 (talk) 22:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking to external wikia home pages 

message: Aha, I see the wiki code that it contains Wikia community links (instead of external links).
*wikia:callofduty - wikia:callofduty - Link without the wiki's name
*Wikia Community Central - Wikia Community Central - Link with the wiki's name
*My Little Pony Friendship is Magic - My Little Pony Friendship is Magic - Link that contains the article from the wiki
This should work with the wiki code links to Wikia from Wikipedia rather than using the Wikia template. --Allen talk 05:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, but the template adds more features, such as tracking  06:34, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Also, the template deliberately uses external links as the wikia: prefix links are not decorated with the "nofollow" attribute. —Kusma (t·c) 08:47, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikia code links