Talk:Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman Sepinggan Airport

message: I've re-protected the article, because the edit wars have started again. I asked for verifiable information, and it's split down the middle: the airport hasn't changed its website, but the news media have reported the name change. I don't see any evidence of consensus being reached, so that means stay with the status quo of Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman Airport. —C.Fred (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You are repeating your question. The legislature (parliament) has agreed with the new name (read the latest news).--120.174.189.125 (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A link to a specific news source would be more helpful than just "read the latest news". —C.Fred (talk) 01:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

text:  Open all news links by Satria before, it is already there. It's clear.
Read the third paragraph on portalbalikpapan.com, also the fourth paragraph on kontan.co.id and koranabri.com (DPRD/legislature agreed with the new name)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.180.120.57 (talk) 00:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

text: The name is Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman Airport (in Indonesian: Bandar Udara Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazta2012 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need more [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]; there are no signs of consensus 

message: I need to change the picture page, because Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman's new terminal building has been built. It will be necessary to show the new one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrePramadhana (talk • contribs) 15:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't opened officially yet.--114.4.23.56 (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update The Picture Page 

message: My edits in this article have always been reverted by anonymous users. I believe that this article needs protection. Thank you. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 05:07, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed all the images of the airplane with images of the terminal building. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The destination in the article is outdated. I tried to add new destination with a clear references to make the article up-to-date. But these anonymous users keeps reverting my edits. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 14:05, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggestion: change only the destinations—don't change images, don't change logos, don't change reference section formatting. If you change only the destinations and an IP reverts, then it's easier to challenge the IP's removal of sourced material. —C.Fred (talk) 19:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have followed your instruction and it seems that this anonymous users still reverted my edit. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 04:45, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have checked some of the added destinations on Sepinggan's online departure/arrival schedule and I can confirm that they are true. Could the anonymous IP please explain why he/she keeps removing these destinations? - HyperGaruda (talk) 09:15, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

text: You are absolutely wrong to check only at one website.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.169.254.181 (talk) 09:29, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I have checked all four destinations at the websites of the airlines themselves. Tarakan is the only one which should not be removed, the other routes are not part of any of the airlines' networks. - HyperGaruda (talk) 11:38, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I added these new destinations based on the data from Flightradar24 ] and Google. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 13:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Please somebody stop this people Calvin(Rakha) Wisanto: revert revisions by saying: Unexplained revert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.169.255.251 (talk) 03:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide a detailed explanation about reverting my edits. My edits have reliabe references, yet why you still revert them? Calvin Wisanto (talk) 12:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Could you both provide your links so we can look at them, and find more if necessary? -©2016 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 16:37, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: The only already provided links I see are the ones that Calvin is using. Could you provide the urls for both of them? -©2016 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 17:33, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide further details on why both destinations shouldn't be listed.Tafeax (talk) 19:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Is that a valid WP:SOURCE? Batik Air allows to book non-stop flight BPN-TRK, thus this flight is exist. I've also provide the flight number as well. Charter or seasonal flight is allowed by WP:AVIMOS and WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, stating For flights that do not operate year round, add 'seasonal'  and For flights that do not operate year round, destinations should be listed on a separate line from year-round destinations, with seasonal destinations listed after the Seasonal label, e.g. "Seasonal: Chicago–O'Hare".. Your explanation was uncalled and not true. By the way, please sign your post!--Tafeax (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: How do you know I used third-party source to find out both flights? I've made a dummy booking on Batik Air website, and the non-stop BPN-TRK is available. Just found out, Garuda BPN-KNO-JED was a scheduled instead of charter. Refer offical statement from the airline here . --Tafeax (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Pheww finally protection was granted! --Tafeax (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I don't understand you and your source. You always said 'already explained' but your explanation was immature and incomprehensible. As far as I concern, both flight are bookable on airline's official website. You must be confused with non-stop, direct and transit term. All direct flight (with an intermediate stop/transit) should be listed on destination list, if it bear same flight number. This is applied to GA988 BPN-KNO-JED. While flight ID7271 is a non-stop BPN-TRK. --Tafeax (talk) 20:50, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Could you specifically identify, which source provided by me is not reliable? Secondly, you never explained, but merely linked to so called reliable source. The problem with your reference, it wasn't on English. I've used the Google Translate and found out nothing wrong with the Jeddah inclusion. The article said, it was a transit flight. Further verification on Garuda website, I've found it was a direct flight bearing GA988. If you found out I didn't understand anything, then why you don't explained instead of giving me the non-English sources? By the way, I didn't made up any term. You may want to read direct flight and non-stop flight. --Tafeax (talk) 21:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

text: The IP seems to be stuck on the fact that you are using the official website as a source. This is acceptable in this particular instance: the information about what flights exist isn't biased, so you don't need independent sources for that, and the airport is going to know better than anyone where exactly they offer flights to. In this case, the official source is actually the best one. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 12:52, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOURCE, already explained too and no however. And stop adding the web text to be the airport logo!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.169.254.175 (talk) 15:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There, happy now? I've added this link to Republika, which explicitly says "Balikpapan menuju Tarakan". - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I think you misunderstood what HyperGaruda is saying. After making a dummy booking, I realise that there is flight from HLP to TRK with transit at BPN. However, passengers are also able to book the flight BPN-TRK. Therefore, TRK is definitely a destination of BPN. If you still don't believe me, try to make a dummy booking form Batik Air's official website:. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

text: If the logo is not released yet, then why there is this image in the airport's website? Please, don't just talk nonsense. Try to look at the website before replying me. Also, if you still don't believe me, try to click at the logo. You'll see the image source, which is the website of the airport itself. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your explanation does not make sense. This image is taken directly from the official website of the airport. Therefore, this is definitely the official logo of the airport. Try to check the websites of other airports operated by Angkasa Pura I, i.e: Sam Ratulangi International Airport. They have logos which uses a similar font with this airport's logo. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 03:15, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

text: If you say so, please prove your explanation by giving a reliable source or references. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I need other editors to intervene in this issue. Thanks. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure the IP was just trolling us at this point, so I successfully requested to have the talk page protected. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

text: My apology, I have deleted the irrelevant images. But is it okay to add image of the old terminal of the airport? Calvin Wisanto (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah sure, old parts of the airport are still part of the airport and can nicely illustrate the airport's history. -HyperGaruda (talk) 11:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 2 

message: I really do not understand why the IP thinks that BPN-TRK is not a valid route. Yes, from the point of view of HLP, the route HLP-BPN-TRK includes a transit at BPN, but from BPN's point of view, BPN-TRK is a direct and non-stop flight. I can simply book a flight via Batik Air, check in at BPN and fly directly to TRK. How then is TRK not a destination of BPN? - HyperGaruda (talk) 12:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOURCE, already explained too and no however. And stop adding the web text to be the airport logo!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.169.254.175 (talk) 15:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There, happy now? I've added this link to Republika, which explicitly says "Balikpapan menuju Tarakan". - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I think you misunderstood what HyperGaruda is saying. After making a dummy booking, I realise that there is flight from HLP to TRK with transit at BPN. However, passengers are also able to book the flight BPN-TRK. Therefore, TRK is definitely a destination of BPN. If you still don't believe me, try to make a dummy booking form Batik Air's official website:. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Tarakan

message: ***Is there a problem with the logo? That is the official logo of the airport. I uploaded the image directly from the official airport website. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 15:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If the logo is not released yet, then why there is this image in the airport's website? Please, don't just talk nonsense. Try to look at the website before replying me. Also, if you still don't believe me, try to click at the logo. You'll see the image source, which is the website of the airport itself. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your explanation does not make sense. This image is taken directly from the official website of the airport. Therefore, this is definitely the official logo of the airport. Try to check the websites of other airports operated by Angkasa Pura I, i.e: Sam Ratulangi International Airport. They have logos which uses a similar font with this airport's logo. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 03:15, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

text: If you say so, please prove your explanation by giving a reliable source or references. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I need other editors to intervene in this issue. Thanks. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure the IP was just trolling us at this point, so I successfully requested to have the talk page protected. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo

message: Calvin, you know what I have said about images that do not clearly show the airport. You really should not add them back. - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: My apology, I have deleted the irrelevant images. But is it okay to add image of the old terminal of the airport? Calvin Wisanto (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah sure, old parts of the airport are still part of the airport and can nicely illustrate the airport's history. -HyperGaruda (talk) 11:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Irrelevant images

message: : Can you please explain why did you remove the logo? That logo was taken from the official website of the airport, which is owned by Angkasa Pura I owned by the Indonesian government. Therefore, it is official. I suggest putting it back in the article. CWJakarta (talk) 04:01, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   Please, please and please explain yourself about stating that the logo is not official. You have provided a source, but from what I have seen, that source does not proves anything. If you provide me another reliable and official source, then I might change my mind. I might report you if you are trolling with me all this time. Lastly, I need other editors opinion on this issue. Thanks. CWJakarta (talk) 06:05, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: An anonymous user removes the airport's logo because he stated that it is not official. This is definitely not true because I uploaded the image directly from AP 1 official  website. I need other editor to intervene in this issue. Cheers. CWJakarta (talk) 09:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 2.0 

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