Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2006

message: How many times do we have to repeat it in order that our British friends comprehend that. Languages in continental Europe don't use CAPS in song titles, except when there is a clear reference to the name of a person or a name of a geographical location! German is the only exception to that rule. IT IS THAT DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND?
1. The above complains of the use of capitals in the English Language. However he or she needs to improve their grammer if they are to complain in English. 
:...and you your spelling if you are going to complain about other people's language skills particularly if they are from another country. It's grammar, not grammer.
::fo' shizzle
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2. The Eurovision Song Contest is broadcasted using English as the first language. The vast majority of the songs  are sung in this great language of ours.  French being the other minor language. Therefore we as the superior and dominant language are ENTITLED TO USE CAPS WHENEVER WE LIKE.
You forgot to add that the majority of songs are sung in American English. British English is useless and nobody in continental Europe is using it.
:Maybe British people would start writing non-English titles without all caps, if Continentals would start capitalising English songs too! I'm sick of reading "Love, shine a light" etc. It is WRONG.. EuroSong talk 14:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't put caps in non-English titles

message: Does anyone know how to enter the Eurovision song contest as a UK songwriter?
Thanks.
* I don't think the UK have songwriting entrants. Best thing to do is contact the BBC. Hedley 20:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Making Your Mind Up

message: Is it sure that Hari Varešanovic will represent the country on his own? Cause according to esctoday.com it's the whole group, Hari Mata Hari, that will perform -> http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/5548 Erik 10:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is plain stupid, I don't understand why would anybody insist on that. I am taking the "translation" off now, we'll see what hapeens. Bravada, talk - 20:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bosnia 2006

message: Las Ketchup is not the chosen participant. It is only a rumour. If in fact they are chosen to represent Spain... then this information can be posted in the chart. Please stop putting incorrect information in the chart. Evilperson 20 20:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spain 

message: Now they are, hehe. :P Even doing pretty good in the Spanish chart. :o) Erik 15:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Las Ketchup

message: This article looks like its going to get big when the results of the semi-final and final are posted. So is it neccessary to make a new page for the individual entries to the contest, something like Individual Entries at the Eurovision Song Contest 2006 or something like that? - Nick C 15:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this just basically just cutting and pasting the section on the Individual entries to a new page, as I think that all of the information about selecting the song for each country should be kept, unlike previous pages of the Eurovision Song Contest on Wikipedia, which deleted some parts to keep the information on the countries in the main article. - Nick C 19:28, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it alright if I move the entries to Countries at the Eurovision Song Contest 2006 now? - Nick C 22:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't because I don't think the main contribtors have seen this yet. Esteffect 22:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As long at it does not exceed the maximun size rule, and people do not remove any information from these sections, it can be kept in the main article. - Nick C 16:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections? 

message: Here are two pictures of singer Eddie Butler who will represent Israel this year. --80.230.43.173 12:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISRAEL 

message: I deleted the statement 'The Montenegrin juries gave no points at all to Serbian entries' becuase it is factually false. According to voting records on esctoday.com (http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/5764), Montenegrin juries gave points to 15 of the 24 entries, and as only 12 were Montenegrin obviously some Serb songs got points. I did leave in the comment that the two Serb favourites recieved no points from Montenegro, as I felt that that was relevant.88.96.90.62 18:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What a pity Serbia & Montenegro will not be competing. This will seriously affect Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina and possibly Macedonia, now that the 7-12 point guaranteed system has been rocked. Not only can these countries not depend on points from friends but they have to award so many to someone else, that means go outside of the family tradition! The question will be, to whom? The Celt 8 Apr 2006
Why did Serbia and Montenegro get the voting rights from the EBU this year (both in the semi-final and the final), even though they withdrew their entry and did not perform in the final? There have been a couple of examples of countries pulling out after their entry was decided before the contest, such as France in 1974, but they were not involved in the voting on the night. 84.69.197.190 22:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Serbia and Montenegro

message: Does anyone know if there are there any countries entering the contest for the first time this year? If not it must be the first time in a little while. --Neo 11:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Countries

message: The draw for the semi-final, final and voting have been made. Not sure how to put this into the article, so here is the info for reference. It can be moved into the article if a place can be found for it...
 Semi-Final
# Armenia
# Bulgaria
# Slovenia
# Andorra
# Belarus
# Albania
# Belgium
# Ireland
# Cyprus
# Monaco
# FYR Macedonia
# Poland
# Russia
# Turkey
# Ukraine
# Finland
# The Netherlands
# Lithuania
# Portugal
# Sweden
# Estonia
# Bosnia & Herzegovina
# Iceland
 Final
# Switzerland
# Moldova
# Israel
# Latvia
# Norway
# Spain
# Malta
# Germany
# Denmark
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
# Romania
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
# United Kingdom
# Greece
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
# France
# Croatia
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
# semifinal qualifier
Voting Order
# Slovenia
# Andorra
# Romania
# Denmark
# Latvia
# Portugal
# Sweden
# Finland
# Belgium
# Croatia
# Serbia & Montenegro 
# Norway
# Estonia
# Ireland
# Malta
# Lithuania
# Cyprus
# The Netherlands
# Switzerland
# Ukraine
# Russia
# Poland
# United Kingdom
# Armenia
# France
# Belarus
# Germany
# Spain
# Moldova
# Bosnia & Herzegovina
# Iceland
# Monaco
# Israel
# Albania
# Greece
# Bulgaria
# Macedonia
# Turkey
doktorb | words 20:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Running Order 

message: Hi, I tried out a new TOC for the article as the current one seems really long, and not too useful - you can check it out at . Would people please give comments on it, and whether they prefer it to the current? --Neo 22:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New TOC

message: This is EXCELLENT, I think we should include it immediately! :O) I have been longing for something like this for a long time in fact... Great work! :) Erik 15:29, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Superb

message: On March 21, just a few minutes after Mr. Neil Tarrant added the new, compact Table of contents (TOC), another user removed it again, with the explanation that he had never seen it used before. Well, to his (and others) information, Wikipedia has its very own page dedicated to all types of Tables of contents, including the compact ones and the customized ones. Here is that page... :O)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Section#Table_of_contents_.28TOC.29
Erik 19:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: For the guy that had never seen such a feature before

message: Are an absolute formatting mess. Esteffect 21:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All the individual articles.. 

message: There should be a mention of Lordi's current predicament. The German company that was supposed to provide the pyrotechnics for Lordi's performance slapped them with an insanely large bill and as a result YLE sent a formal protest which means that unless the price is cut Lordi will not perform. (HM)
*YEEAAAAAH!!! WE WON! WE WON!  =) My own opinion =) Well, I think we should put some pics of lordi and maybe som other people on this article ��Dr.Poison 22:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lordi]] and the pyrotechnics dispute 

message: The article says Eimear Quinn will commentate in Ireland. I don't think this is true, as Marty Whelan has performed this function for many years and is commentating the semi-final as I write this. Perhaps Eimear Quinn will announce Ireland's votes, is that what's meant?--Dub8lad1 20:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish commentator 

message: Now that they got to the final, I just hope they won't say anything provocative like "Good evening from Macedonia" to a Greek audience. If something like that happens, except A LOT of booing. --   Avg    01:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: FYR Macedonia

message: According to the latest news from the final dress rehearsal, the Turkish song will be performed in Turkish, English and Greek. Should something like this be changed in the table with the language of the song? Here is a link to the news report: 
http://esctoday.com/news/read/6186
Loool 19:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkey in the table

message: We just won. :) - ulayiti (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Congratulations ! so where next year ? Helsinki ? Hektor 22:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely! See you there! :) - ulayiti (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Congratulations. Hopefully this makes up for Finland's dismal record 3 'Nul points'!! Your winning song has admittedly grown on me quite a lot.......when's the CD album coming out!!! ^^ Lady BlahDeBlah 22:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, gratz to Lordi! Kinda reflects all the really good bands to come out of finland in the recent years, such as HIM, Nightwish and Children of Bodom. I'm Surprised to see that Lordi are an old band actually, nearly 15 years old! Maybe next year because of rock winning Eurovision, there will be a lot more rock in Eurovision? I'd certainly welcome it. Even if its only bands playing their OWN INSTRUMENTS rather than playing to a backing track. ROCK ON FINLAND!!!! 194.66.200.1 22:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text:  Yaaah! I just happy as a finn living in Sweden, that we just one time beat sweden in something! :) next year I think that many people have understand that you can have something litle more modern and rocking in the ESC ! ! But now we will celebrate Finland and Lordi! Nähdään ensi vuonna stadissa!Dr.Poison 22:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Finland, flanked by the Baltic countries, the Scandinavians and Russia. We will never see another winner from western Europe ever again! -- Boothman /tɔːk/. 12:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't just neighbour voting in Finland's case; they got 12 points from Greece, Poland and the UK, and 10 from Andorra, Croatia, Germany, Ireland, and Spain. Hard Rock Hallelujah was the most original song in the Eurovision for many years, and the group themselves were unprecedented. If the western European countries want to win again, they need to do something similar, or at least sing songs that have pan-European appeal. Monotonous dirges (France), country-and-western (Germany), or bizarre sub-hiphop performed by thirtysomething DJs surrounded by naughty schoolgirls (UK) aren't going to do it. Deadlock 12:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the UK's entry this year, my opinion is that it was a good idea that fell on its face.  Rapping backed by a chorus of schoolgirls could've been a winning combination — it's just that the rapping was insipid and the schoolgirls were plain.  Also, the timing couldn't have been worse — you just can't compete for the novelty vote against guys singing hard rock in rubber masks.  (As it happens, I did vote for the UK this year.  That was an attempt at tactical voting, though; I figured they couldn't possibly be a credible threat to Lordi, but might steal a point or two from someone else...)  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 06:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  OMG. 

message: Newscientist reports of some collusion in this contest.
:The original study in Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation  vol. 9, no. 2
:Btw, there was also this "revelation" in the Finnish media before the contest, that the "country of origin" voting restrictions could be circumvented by using Skype --85.156.143.248 00:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: collusion

message: :and the 1997 winning entry "Love Shine A Light", sung by Katrina and the Waves for the United Kingdom, is widely considered the most dominant winning song in contest history
I'm removing this for two reasons. Firstly, you should avoid weasel words, such as "widely considered" and secondly because if that is true, it should at least have a citation.
Thanks, Kel-nage 11:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, I did a bit of original research, and it looks like "Love Shine A Light" also beat "Hard Rock Hallelujah" in the percentage of total points scored (15.86% vs. 13.61%).  So did a number of other winners, including "Rock'n Roll Kids" (Ireland 1994, 15.59%), "Everybody" (Estonia 2001, 14.84%) and "Fly On the Wings of Love" (Denmark 2000, 14.01%).  The theoretical maximum under the current rules, of course, is slightly less than 20.7%.  (Feel free to add to the table or fix any mistakes.)  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends on your definition of most dominant. In terms of points scored/points possible (percentage of full marks that a song got), it would be "Tu te reconnaitras" by Anne-Marie David in 1974. Having said that, the 1974 contest was very close, she beat Mocedades only by 129-126 roughly off the top of my head. Otherwise, Ein bisschen Frieden in 1982 with Nicole (artist) for Germany won by 160-101, which is a margin of about 37%, even though she got a smaller proportion of the maximum possible mark. The raw points gap is not accurate imho, because the points pool has gone up massively, with ~35 countries entering now instead of in the 1980s with only 20 countries voting. Because a 60 point gap now would only be a 20% victory margin. In terms of large percentage victory margins, it would be Olsen Brothers 2000, Rock'nRoll Kids 1994, Love Shine a Light, and also possibly The Voice? and Ein Bisschen Frieden.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! - review me 00:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed the reference to Love Shine a Light. There isn't a hard criteria for dominance. 1997 Katrina and the Waves won 227-157, roughly a 30% margin. In 1982 Ein bisschen Frieden won 161-101, about a 37.5% winning margin - there were less entrants in those days, less votes, so less scope for margin. Please feel free to discuss.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's fair enough; you're right there is no hard and fast rule about points dominance. However, it left the explanation after the winning score a bit irrelevant so I've removed that bit as well. Satyricon uk 18:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Katrina and Waves - Most Dominant? 

message: Is anybody kind enough to post the score sheet in the article? I've found the original score sheet in pdf from the official website: 
The article about last year has one, so why can't this year's? - 上村七美 | talk 15:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Score Sheet

message: Looking at the scoreboard it looks like the 10 countries from the semifinals are all in the top12 and only two pre-qualified countries (Romania 4th and Greece 9th). So does playing your song twice create an advantage? In my opinion atleast the winner (which was my favourite) benefited from the hype after the semifinal. Has there been any criticism of this in the public media? --Laisak 21:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is definately possible, but one year cannot be statistically significant (enough). I propose that the qualifiers me shaded orange (like the semifinalists who made it to the final) and the winner be given some more prominent color/shade. └ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 00:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does automatic qualification create a disadvantage? 

message: I don't want to seem like a kill-joy but this talk page is overrun with message board style comments.  Wikipedia is not a discussion forum.  Could editors please consider that when making comments on this talk page.  MLA 07:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a message board 

message: Is it a complete coincidence that they had the same number of points at the semi final and final or is it is a typo ? Hektor 18:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a strange coincidence but it is correct Satyricon uk 18:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Same number of points

message: Should this article contain the radio presenters of each country under the "Commentators" tab?  i.e. in the UK, the contest was broadcast on BBC Radio 2 by Ken Bruce. Squawkbox 15:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio Broadcasts? 

message: Shouldn't there be a semi-final scoreboard on this page?
Also, I wasen't aware this was a forum for general talk about the subject. Can I remove it? (About the "YES, WE WON!!" etc.) Also, is this page getting archived? - Jetro (talk) 16:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-final score board 

message: someone i changing the text in the amount of 12 points for the semi final and removing the word semi. i fixed it once before and then it got changed again so, i had to fix it a second time. that means that someone is vandalising this article and as such it should be semi protected.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.60.156 (talk) 12:12, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  i request semi-protection 

message: someone needs to fix it.84.213.46.153 (talk) 14:32, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  the link to all other contests is missing from the bottom of the page