Talk:Gaeltacht

message: The map shown in the article is extremely inaccurate. Most Gaeltacht areas are shown as being much smaller than they actually are and Clear Island in Co. Cork and Ring in Waterford have been completely omitted.
Alan, Dublin
:Ok, then I'll remove the map for now. Do you have any idea where we can get a better one? --Khoikhoi 05:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Might a List of places in the Gaeltacht or similar be better to the recent addition of towns and villages? Djegan 20:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Towns and Villages

message: Is there some people actually living in this Gaeltacht? The nearest place, according to the article, is a "small hamlet" that according to its article "has only a few commercial business in operation" and that fact is "largely due to its low population." Is there really an Irish speaking community there or not? JdeJ 06:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there are people living in this Gaeltacht, but rather the hope is that one day there will be.  It is currently just used to run Irish immersion courses and the like, but they are planning to build a community around it and eventually have a proper Irish language village.  It has been approved funding by the Irish government though I think, and may have received Gaeltacht status.--Alanmryan100 (talk) 19:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The proper term would be a Canadian Gàidhealtachd, as is the case in the province of Nova Scotia where a Scottish colony settled in the 1850's, and they still speak Scottish Gaelic over there, unless you're talking about an Irish-language colony somewhere else in Canada. IlStudioso 07:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No I'm afraid the proper term is Gaeltacht and not Gàidhealtachd. Gàidhealtachd is reserved for areas with a Scottish Gaelic speaking population. The Gaeltacht in Tamworth, Ontario is an Irish Gaelic speaking area (although no-one lives there) that has received official status from Minister Ó Cuív. --MacTire02 (talk) 16:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian Gaeltacht?

message: As this is the English language Wikipedia it should use English terminology.  Irish language and Gaelic language are acceptable terms in English, although I would prefer the former. PatGallacher (talk) 14:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Terminology

message: "The aim was to redress a centuries old imbalance, where the Irish farmers were forcibly removed from this land by the English under Oliver Cromwell, with the infamous edict to ‘Hell or Connacht’. When the Irish farmers returned to the land in Meath, they brought with them their native language and culture, which today is greatly celebrated in the small Gaeltacht of Baile Ghib and Rath Cairn, 70 km from Dublin city."
:Who in the Meath Gaeltacht can say that a particular ancestor came from where he lives today? No compensation was paid in the 1650s, while the occupiers were paid to leave by the state in the 1930s to set up this Gaeltacht, so it didn't redress any imbalance. Application of reality, please.86.42.221.37 (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ludicrous POV sentence

message: Should placenames in the Gaeltacht not be in their Irish language version as that is the official version? I know we have a common view policy on wikipedia, but if we were to rigidly implement that policy then all articles on all placenames should be in their common English language version. i.e. Kolkata should be re-named Calcutta - the common English language name. Likewise Mumbai - Bombay. I don't understand why these commonname placenames have been superseded by their official Indian names, while Irish Gaeltacht placenames have to bow to their common English name despite the fact that it's their Irish name that has official status. The government here only uses the Irish language version, as does RTÉ, a sizeable portion of the National Media, new OS maps since the Official Languages Acts, and in the future it will be a requirement to have all maps show the official name only or as a priority name (i.e. with the English name in italics). To have one policy for Indian placenames and another for Irish Gaeltacht placenames is a bit hypocritical I feel. --MacTire02 (talk) 13:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is much dispute over those changes on a local level. Lets not move them around just because of "officaldom". Djegan (talk) 13:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't the place to discuss the issue anyway. The right place to discuss it is WP:MOSIR, but the consensus that the English names of places in the Gaeltacht are to be used, provided the English names are the most commonly used names in English, is unlikely to change any time soon. —Angr 14:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Have changed all Irish only place names to English versions as used by the article names for those places, since this is English Wikipedia. After all, even Irish speaking Gaeltacht dwellers will use English language equivalents when speaking in English. If there is any argument about this, the best place is to argue about the individual place name article names on those talk pages, not simply change the names back to Irish on this page. 86.139.114.221 (talk) 07:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaeltacht placenames 

message: You know, I don't care if this ends up getting kicked off of Wikipedia, but based on this info, I just have to conclude that, in a basic phrase, England and its English language have caused nothing but problems to many cultures and languages, especially the Celtic languages in particular. If you study the three Gaeltacht maps, you can see that, from 1926 to 2007, the "English Monster" has pretty much gotten the Irish language rounded up with nowhere to escape to, and the various pockets of Gaeltacht resemble peninsulas, showing how the Irish language can't escape, unless something's done about this in Dublin. With the situation of the language in Northern Ireland, I'm particularly not surprised how it's not supported. What could you possibly expect from England? By the way, when you refer to Great Britain, I hope you're talkin' about England, right? IlStudioso 07:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This talk page is for discussing improvements to the article Gaeltacht, not for getting opinions off your chest. The term "Great Britain" doesn't even occur in the article, but when it is used, it refers correctly to England, Scotland, and Wales together, not just England. —Angr 18:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What problems ... 

message: Bóthar Seoighe (also Gaeltacht Seoighe; English: Shaw's Road or Shaw's Gaeltacht) is a small Gaeltacht (Irish-speaking area) in Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland. The Shaw's Road Gaeltacht was founded in the mid 1960s when a few families from Belfast built their houses in the area. More families joined the original settlers in the 1960s. In all, over 300 people live in the Shaw's Road Gaeltacht. In 1972 the Shaw's Road received official recognition as a Gaeltacht following a campaign. A committee was started in 1973. As a result, the Shaw's Road has grown into a community with a primary school (and have from the work of it's people openeda secondary school in 1991 on the Falls Road), the first primary Irish Language primary school in the north of Ireland, a community hall and other historical facilities. Shaw's Gaeltacht is popular for children and adults from Antrim learning Irish. Irish language courses are run for all in the GAA Club. Shaw's Gaeltahct has a strong culture of traditional music, dance and drama which continues to thrive today.
The area has been home to many musicians, dancers, teachers and political figures. People fond of the place were Belfast-born Gaelic speaker Albert Sharpe, who stared in Darby O'Gill and the Little People and Robbi McMillen, a young singer who was born and raised there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.29.3 (talk) 02:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belfast Gaeltacht 

message: Shouldn't this article mention that there has been criticism of the Gaeltacht idea, including from people who support the Irish language?--MacRusgail (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For an evenly balanced article their should be some form of criticism section - as long as its sourced reliably. Mabuska (talk) 21:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So be bold and just add a criticism section with refs. I can't imagine how anyone would have a problem with such a section. Mac Tíre Cowag 07:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: I have tightened up a number of sections and have added references. I have added a section describing the parlous state of the language in the official Gaeltacht. Given that this threatens the very existence of the Gaeltacht, such a section is well overdue. 
Colin Ryan (talk) 12:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: Infoboxes are designed to convey a summary of information, unfortunataly this one added inaccuarcies. The flag, emblem and national languages are those of the state. The Gaeltacht offical/sanctioned religion was set to catholic and demonym was Gaelic/Irish people. No, no and no. Murry1975 (talk) 11:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Mis)Infobox 

message: I have taken Clare Island out of the section devoted to Neo-Gaeltachtaí, as there is no convincing evidence of any revival. 
Colin Ryan (talk) 01:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of Clare island from Neo-Gaeltachtaí 

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message: See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles#Derry/Londonderry - "To avoid constant renaming of articles (and more), keep a neutral point of view, promote consistency in the encyclopedia, and avoid Stroke City-style terms perplexing to those unfamiliar with the dispute, a compromise solution was proposed and agreed in 2004 regarding the Derry/Londonderry name dispute, and has been generally accepted as a convention for both article titles and in-article references since then. Use Derry for the city and County Londonderry for the county in articles." I have therefore reverted the edits to the version as it stod before to-day - please discuss here before making any edits. Alekksandr (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: County Londonderry

message: The article states:
Gaeltacht areas were recognised in seven of the state's 26 counties (nominally Donegal, Galway, Mayo, Kerry, and Waterford).
That comes to five not seven by my reckoning. Can someone please correct this? John Campbell (talk) 23:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What seven counties? 

message: I have transferred much of the material in what used to "Gaeltachtaí" and is now "Revival and innovation" to Neo-Gaeltacht, where I consider it more properly belongs. I trimmed the bulk of "West Clare Gaeltacht Irish speaking area & North Munster Irish / Gaeilge na dTuathmhumhan," together with its unwieldy title: it is now simply "West Clare". Still work to be done.
Colin Ryan (talk) 13:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transfer of material