Talk:Polokwane

message: Pietersburg (Polokwane) has been renamed locally , and subsequently nationally. However the validity of name change is being contested in court , and has been a contentious issue for 3 years. The outcome of the court ruling will determine whether or not the town(city) retains the original founding name.
What does it mean exactly to change the name of a settlement in a country with many languages? After all, many, if not most towns and cities have different names in different languages in South Africa. For example South Africa's legislative capital is Cape Town in English, Kaapstad in Afrikaans and SaseKapa in Xhosa.
Most of the city names which have changed in South Africa since 1994 are the same in the various languages, precisely because they haven't had the history or time to develop seperate names. Others which can be translated, are. For example the former Cape province was split in three, and the new names of the three provinces are new in all the languages (eg, Mpuma-Koloni is 'Eastern Cape' in Xhosa - both Eastern Cape and Mpuma-Koloni are new names, since before it was just the Cape and Koloni). Other times common speech still has to catch up with official changes. Pretoria is now officially Tshwane but English and Afrikaans-speakers still call it Pretoria, Zulus still call it Pitoli etc Joziboy 16 March 2006, 16:38 (UTC)
:Pretoria is NOT oficially called Tshwane, as has been claimed above. But Pietersburg is Polokwane.Park3r (talk)
:Yes, Pretoria is NOT officially Tshwane in non-Bantu languages, but can you please give PROOF where it states 'the ENGLISH name hs been changed to Polokwane?? --Bezuidenhout (talk) 20:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Look on Google Maps. Or any map book in ENGLISH that has been published in the last few years. See what Map Studio's English map book range calls Polokwane: . I will dig up the English government gazette where the name change was published by the minister and post a link here. The argument that the name is different in English is bizzare. There is a sign in town, put up the municipality, that says "Welcome to Polokwane, A progressive city" or some such thing in ENGLISH. See the municipality's own website in ENGLISH that calls the place Polokwane . The English media calls the place Polokwane. As much as I think these name changes are absurd, it is disingenuous to claim that the name is anything but Polokwane. Park3r (talk) 14:11, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Government Gazette notice (in English) [ http://www.info.gov.za/view/DownloadFileAction?id=60522 ] renaming the Pietersburg post office to Polokwane.Park3r (talk) 14:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change discussion (March 2006)

message: Funny that almost all cities whose "names are changed" by the ANC are actually towns founded by Afrikaners. One wonders, if this pattern is part of a plot directed against this ethnic group.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.241.154.247 (talk) 13:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Polokwane is the name on maps. The nearby town of Louis Trichardt had its name-change  reversed through legal means; but Polokwane is the name used everywhere in print for the former Pietersburg (media, maps, government, road signs), and Wikipedia is the only holdout.Park3r (talk) 17:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Name Changes" are directed against Afrikaners 

message: I have studied many South African name changed and even created an article on Afrikaans Wikipedia with ALL the name changed in South Africa (even before 1990), and one of the questions I will answer is that Pietersburg is used throughout the article because, yes Polokwane is official, but I seriously doubt that it's citizens (who are majority white) will use the new name. Another statement is that the demography is only for the local municipality and that the ACTUAL CITY OF POLOKWANE (pietersburg) has a majority white population (which is likely to change when all whites are murdered in the future), but my point is that I suggest we carry on using Pietersburg througout the article because thats the the majority of the city's citizens will call it. Other problems are that white south africans (including myself) are very upset from these name changes, since the guy who it's  named after is a national hero, so for all those South Africans out there, how would you like it if Washingotn DC would change to Mokopolokadwinda? My final answer is that yes, most city name changed are directed against Afrikaners, but not all. Butterworth and Lady Frere in the Eastern Cape and Stanger and Ladysmith in Natal. Of course roughly 95% of Name changed in south africa are against afrikaners, which is very negative but not all, and I think this talk page isn't the right place to comment on political issues, send that to the government (not that they will listen).--Bezuidenhout (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answer Questions 

message: User:Park3r has added a merger notice on 11 May 2009 on both Pietersburg and Polokwane, but have not started a discussion related to that notice. 
I believe they should be merged and Pietersburg should redirect to Polokwane for the following reasons
# It is the official name at the moment
# The content in both articles are almost identical
--NJR_ZA (talk) 21:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: In order to clean up any possible misunderstanding, here is an overview of the differences between the two.
* Polokwane is the city previously known as Pietersburg. The South African Geographical Names Council shows that its name was changed from Pietersburg to Polokwane on 2005-02-25. It is located within the Polokwane Local Municipality
* Polokwane Local Municipality is a local municipality than includes not only Polokwane, but also a number of other settlements such as Mankweng, Seshego and others.
In short, Polokwane is the old Pietersburg while Polokwane Local Municipality incorporates Polokwane as well as the surrounding apartheid era black townships, informal settlements and farming communities.
Except for the fact that both the city and the local municipality that serve the greater region has for some reason been given the same name, it is no different than all the other local municipality/central town pairs in the country. One example of such a pair where the major settlement has not been renamed is Nelspruit/Mbombela Local Municipality; Mbombela incorporates Nelspruit as well as other smaller settlement, black townships left over from apartheid and informal settlements.
--NJR_ZA (talk) 08:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Polokwane]] vs. [[Polokwane Local Municipality]] 

message: According to the article there is only one airport in the city, there is however two airports. This is clearly visible on Google Maps. The airport to the north of the city is the public airport, Polokwane International, whereas the airport to the south is the private airport Polokwane Gateway Airport. Could we rectify this? --196.215.29.202 (talk) 11:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airports 

message: Can anyone maybe make some of those weird pronounciation bubble things? Sorry I don't know what they're called, but I can imagine that some people in England would call the city (Polok-Wayne). Maybe also make one for Pietersburg? Bezuidenhout (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronounciation 

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