Template talk:R from subtopic

message: This talk page, like its template used to be, was redirected, in this case to Template talk:R with possibilities.  So I turned it into the talk page for the new template. – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  05:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was a redirect 

message: currently redirects to this template, though I don't entirely agree.
As I was told at its real talk page back when the redirect target was different, the template appears intended for "Title: Subtitle → Title without subtitle." I am fine with this usage. Contrary to the discussion, I have not boldly attempted to change it, even though it isn't currently used on any redirects anyway.
However, it is not immediately obvious what Rcat should be used for the cases "Subtitle → Title: Subtitle" and "Subtitle → Title without subtitle." Perhaps  would be a good name for a new Rcat, but is one of these cases already covered by  some other Rcat?
Secondary to this is the question of whether  should be unredirected, but I have no suggestion on what text such a template would contain. Any ideas on these several issues?
(Pinging  who did the last retarget and  who pointed out my misunderstanding in the previous discussion) --SoledadKabocha (talk) 18:11, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit: struck confusing and logically inaccurate mention of R to subtopic --SoledadKabocha (talk) 04:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like Steel1943 planned to develop this to cover redirects described at WP:SUBTITLE, which I agree are only loosely seen as "subtopics".  There may be some need for this if you or Steel plan to fill and monitor .  Paine Ellsworth  u/c 09:54, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  R from subtitle, revisited 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Template:R from species to genus. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 29#Template:R from species to genus until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Template:R from species to genus" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Delete "If notability of the subject can be shown, then be bold and convert this redirect into an article on the subtopic." This additional statement is too strong and in some cases inappropriate for redirects with this rcat. It is entirely plausible that a subtopic of an article is notable but is best handled as a section at an article about a broader topic, such as when a WP:MERGE discussion has reached consensus to that effect. Compare this text to the description associated with Template:R from related topic, which does not so strongly implore users to create articles on related topics, and related topics are much more likely to warrant their own articles than subtopics. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 03:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 13 December 2021 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Template:R from sub and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 14#Template:R from sub until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 16:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Template:R from sub" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Template:R from subtitle has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Notifying this page as a former target of this rcat redirect. ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 10:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Template:R from subtitle]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Template:R subtopic has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 12:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Template:R subtopic]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]