Talk:The 7th Guest

message: I've read no mention of this, but are the title and some of the plot elements for this game a homage to this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023583/ ? The party years after a horrible event and guest invited back to be killed seems coincidental enough but the title makes me think there has to be some connection. 68.3.218.35 (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference to The Thirteenth Guest (1932)?

message: I just listened to the audio track on the second disc.  Its length is only 27 minutes and 24 seconds, not "over an hour long" as the article states under the "The Music of T7G" section.  So, is the information incorrect or did I miss something? -- M.S.T.O.P. 23:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Your info matches what I remember when I ripped the track to my computer many years ago.  That person might be confusing it with The Fat Man's released soundtrack for the game, which I'll be adding info about shortly.  In fact, I'll probably be adding quite a bit to the Music section of this article.  No guarantees; I'm fairly new to this. Faceless007 00:06, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio Track Length 

message: Does anyone know the exact release dates for this game, the article says that it predates MYST. Yumpizza 15:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know pretty close to the exact release dates for this game, and I've put what I know on this article know.  GameInnovation gives us a release date of April of 1993 for the DOS version of the game, while MobyGames gives us the release date for all of the  other versions.  However, it says that the CD-i version was released in 1993, but I have to call "BS" on this since I own a copy of the game and its copyrighted 1994. --Brahman 02:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, as an addendum to this comment, this game does, in fact, predate Myst since it was released in April of 1993 and Myst was released on September 24, 1993 (according to MobyGames). --Brahman 02:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release dates 

message: I've read that the game has an alternate ending for when you use the hint book to solve most of the puzzles. Has anybody ever seen it, and if so, please tell me what it is? 67.172.204.135 21:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've read the same thing, but I haven't been able to find any supporting evidence anywhere.  So today I played through the whole game, using the hint book to solve every single puzzle (except the maze and window puzzles which don't allow you access to the library).  And I still got the regular ending. 76.111.6.198 23:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Ending

message: I'm curious why nothing has been written about the development of the game.  Detailed information is in the article "Haunted Glory: The Rise and Fall of Trilobyte", which we link to.  It's really interesting stuff, even to non-nerds. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Development information

message: I think it's inappropriate for the article to spoil elements of The 7th Guest's sequel, "The 11th Hour (computer game)". I'm aware that there is a spoiler warning already but that means that there are spoilers for THIS GAME (The 7th Guest), unless otherwise noted. If someone has played The 7th Guest and decides to read this article, part of the surprise of The 11th Hour is spoiled without warning. Joe45 17:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler for "The 11th Hour" 

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message: The themes section seems to be chock full of original research and speculation. I could be wrong (not being an expert on this game) but I don't think so. Lots42 (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, OR and speculation need to be removed. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes 

message: As an owner of the original issues of both 7th Guest and 11th Hour, I can tell you that this does not apply to the original issue of T7G.  There was no hint book in the original DOS issue, making some of the puzzles (particularly "Infection") quite difficult.  The hint book feature was indeed present in the first incarnation of 11th (and in the manner described above), and possibly was added to T7G for the Windows reissue.  The most the original T7G offered was a cheat ("open house") that enabled you to visit puzzles out-of-turn—if memory serves, it was the same thing you received as an award for completing the game.
It might also be mentioned that in 11th, using the hint book did indeed come with a penalty.  By using the hint book to complete a puzzle, you did not get to see the cinematics that accompanied a completion.  By routinely skipping puzzles, you missed out on a considerable amount of plot advancement.  So in fact, the manual was quite right to state that there were "consequences"...
Since I don't hold an account at Wikipedia, I'll let a regular take care of such corrections.
98.211.44.211 (talk) 05:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction to article... 

message: See The Rise and Fall of Trilobyte, Page 8:
On April 27, 1994, Devine told the company over e-mail that "Today is the one year anniversary of the launch of The 7th Guest, the game they said was impossible to do."
Release date was thus 1993-04-27.—Graf Bobby (talk) 21:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's interesting, because the game box actually says 1992 on it! Thanks for clearing that up. I was the one who actually changed this article and all of the articles linking to this one to 1992. Tubularfigurine (talk) 01:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I got the box here, definitly 1992. Devine was mistaken. Multiple sources state 1992 as well. 98.198.83.12 (talk) 02:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

text:  See also USENET post written on Apr 28 1993 indicating the game has been released and that Apr 27 1994 was indeed the 1 year anniversary. Or the April 1993 issue of Compute! covering the 'upcoming 7th Guest' being a highlight of the Jan 1993 CES. Or what Google News shows up when searching for 1992-1993 articles. Do people really think the creators of the game can get the year wrong? Evilgrug (talk) 05:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1993, not 1992 

message: I think adding a reception section would be nice.--Megaman en m (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  reception  

message: The following is unsourced information:
*The creators came up with the idea for the game after watching an episode of Twin Peaks in an airport bar. The initial idea was to create a game based on the show.
*Although released for DOS first, it was later ported for Windows. The versions are not identical, however, since the Windows version had several changes made to some puzzles, making them easier.   The CD-i version also differed from the DOS and Windows versions; one difference was the elimination of a word puzzle in the kitchen pantry that was present in the other versions.
*A second sequel was planned and partially developed, but was canceled before completion.  Footage and ideas from this sequel were reused and ultimately became the DVD interactive movie Tender Loving Care, starring John Hurt.
*The antagonist's last name, "Stauf", is an anagram for "Faust", representing the Faustian deal Mr. Stauf made when he committed an evil deed and rose to great fame and fortune in exchange.
*Copies of The 7th Guest make frequent appearances throughout its sequel.  A CD jewel case of T7G is one of the necessary treasure-hunt items; several large T7G boxes are visible in various states of decay on shelves throughout the mansion; and the character Samantha is seen playing the actual game, although in this particular case, the game is functioning within The 11th Hour as footage from a series of security cameras Samantha is using to keep an eye on the Stauf mansion.
*It was reported that Nintendo paid $1 million to Virgin Interactive for exclusive CD-ROM console rights to the game for its ill-fated CD add-on for the SNES. Because the add-on was never released, it is rumored that Nintendo only paid in order to prevent its then rival, Sega, from releasing the game for the Sega Mega-CD Mega Drive add-on.
While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 08:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material 

message: The Story and Character articles are absolutely terrible at the moment!  The opening narrative being copied in its entirety, assumptions for character backgrounds that are never shown in the game, descriptions of deaths which don't even occur (Banging someones head against a coffin?  Really?), and frankly it all comes across as pages of fan speculation.   Anyone brave enough to briefly summarise those sections to make them more suitable for Wikipedia?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.239.42 (talk) 07:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story and Cast sections need to be completely rewritten 

message: Should this have a list of the different types of puzzles you have to solve in the game?  Most of them are based on classic puzzles, like the ones that involve moving chess pieces.
Coupdeforce (talk) 06:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puzzle Types 

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