Talk:Battle of Oriskany

message: in the result box on the right, it says "american pyrric victory" but in the introdution, "It was a clear victory for the loyalists over the rebels" -will someone please clarify?
also, there are discrepencies about the losses, for example  and  state that they are equal.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.229.192.97 (talk) 11:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The result box has been deleted. Why? Drutt (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the outcome is too complicated to express as a simple victory for either side. Magic♪piano 19:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion in outcome 

message: There are repeated references to the Oriskany Creek in the article. The battle did not take place on the Oriskany Creek, which is located 2 or 3 miles east of the battlefield, and is significantly larger than the creek at the battlefield. At its mouth, Oriskany Creek is probably 50 feet wide, whereas the battlefield creek is, as mentioned in the article, just a few feet across.
I have no idea what the official name of the actual creek is, if it has one. I grew up in Oriskany, and we always just referred to it as Bloody Creek. It is not named on USGS topo maps.
Google Maps view
The battlefield is labelled along Rt 69, whereas Oriskany Creek flows through the village of Oriskany, SE of the battlefield. The battlefield creek is so small it doesn't even show up on Google's Terrain view.
Colden46 (talk) 03:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oriskany Creek 

message: After posting my previous comment about the Oriskany Creek, I looked at the footnotes for the article. The entire page outside of the introduction is a word-for-word duplicate of the one online footnote: http://www.myrevolutionarywar.com/battles/770806.htm Colden46 (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In this case, the plagiarist and copyright violator is myrevolutionarywar.com. I wrote the majority of this Wikipedia article after visiting the battlefield. Indeed, I was very proud of writing this particular sentence: "Historians interpret Herkimer's reply not only as a testament to his valor, but also his bitterness towards those officers who—having earlier branded Herkimer a coward for his caution and goaded him into the ravine—now urged him to retreat for his own safety." It is a shame that myrevolutionarywar.com has chosen to plagiarize this Wikipedia article without giving proper credit. -- Flask (talk) 00:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  
Copyright
 

message: The battle was not fought anywhere near Oriskany creek, and thus the references should be removed. The creek in question is little more then a stream which originates in nateral springs in what is now Whitesboro NY, and now empties into the barge canal. Prior to the canal being built, it emptied into the Erie canal, and prior to that,the Mohawk river.
It is called "Blood Creek" by the locals, and according to the Oneida County historical society, it has no "official" name  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.160.5.25 (talk) 20:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Oriskany creek references should be removed

message: I posted a link to a video on the Battle of Oriskany that was removed. It does not advertise or promote anything. It stayed on the article for over 6 months! It was linked to an article on the Battle of Oriskany and very nicely supplements that article. There are other external links that have been allowed. This video was made as a final project for an undergraduate college course. 
Could you please be more specific in your reasons for the video being removed? I really don't understand why it was removed. In any event, I will not argue the case any further. If you don't want it back, so be it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MFerris341 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:ELNO, number 11. Magic♪piano 20:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Oriskany video 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: According to Abler's Chainbreaker: The Revolutionary War Memoirs of Governor Blacksnake, and Graymont's The Iroquois in the American Revolution, Blacksnake was present at the Battle of Oriskany, however, the Seneca war leaders were Sayenqueraghta and Cornplanter.
The main Indigenous groups participating in the battle were the Seneca, Cayuga, Mohawk, Onondaga, and Mississaugas. Members of other tribes were present, however, their numbers were small.
Loyalists present at the battle were either members of the King's Royal Regiment of New York under the command of Sir John Johnson, or British Indian Department rangers under the command of John Butler. The Indian Department rangers would later form the core of the provincial regiment known as Butler's Rangers, and while John Butler was the commanding officer, he was not promoted to Lieutenant Colonel until 1780.
When writing about the Indigenous peoples of the Americas it is best to avoid using "Indians" as many now consider the term outdated and offensive. "Indigenous warriors" is perhaps a more accurate term to describe the members of more than one tribe participating in a military action.
Have also noted several discrepancies between the information in the infobox and the information in the text that need to be fact-checked. Griffin's Sword (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belligerents and Leaders