Talk:Metrication in Ireland

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message: Hi, I'm unsure why you've [DeFacto] reverted my edit wholesale as controversial and requiring citation. The original content was not sourced and made some extraordinary claims about the daily use of non-metric units here in Ireland outside my lived experience of 34 years.
It's difficult to source relevant citations without resorting to fairly irrelevant links to journalism featuring people using metric units for height and weight, property sites which all exclusively use metric units, government grant forms list area in hectares.
There have been no academic studies I can find into common use of metric units which examines generational difference. Yet the article as it currently reads is at odds with my own and my peers use of metric units for all of the mentioned uses.
Can you make any suggestions?
Cros13 (talk) 00:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought my edit summary was clear enough, but I can expand a little. Wiki policy requires content to be verifiable, reliably sourced and balanced, and not based solely on an editor's personal experience or opinion. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Sure there is currently unsourced content in the article, but the addition of further unsourced content does not improve matters. -- DeFacto (talk). 06:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Per your comments above, I have undone the insertion of the edit of 5 February 2019. which though described as "better layout" actually introduced material which was not  and gave every appearance of being . 92.19.29.209 (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine with me, I wonder what  thinks. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's certainly more accurate without the assertions of imperial units being preferred units of the majority. Not Wikipedia:Reliable sources or questionable Wikipedia:Relevance as a citation but: https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/48cfj9/do_you_use_metric_or_imperial/ and the style guides for most of the major newspapers put metric units first for body measurements as in this article: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/ana-kri%C3%A9gel-murder-trial-the-complete-story-1.3929570 Cros13 (talk) 01:36, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metrication in Ireland 

message: Recent edit: "However, by 2020, the Irish plumbing industry has almost completely migrated to the same Metric pipework standards (EN 1057) as used in the UK and across the European Union."
I've a major problem in believing this. There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that 99% of plumbing in Ireland is imperial and I see no evidence at all of this changing. The UK went metric in 1972 and made it law. The Irish government went for protectionism/not-doing-anything-as-usual and we all pay 20% more for materials as a result. This why I said in my first edit that the only metric plumbing you'll find in Ireland is that put in when buying in bulk from the UK was far cheaper (ie: in the boom years, when we were told to "shop around" but "not in the North").
The closest builders providers to me is Grange in Baldoyle. If I ask for 22mm pipe I'll get 3/4", in copper or plastic. In metre lengths of course because the EU mandates that quantities be metric. More to the point, I can't actually buy 22mm pipe from them. I can from Screwfix (online shopping/broadband is another Irish government failure).
Carpet is priced in square yards supplied in metre widths. Underlay in mm x square feet. etc etc. Plywood is 8 x 4 foot so 1220mm x 2440mm. Plasterslabs are 8' (2440)x 1200, and concrete boards are 1200x2400mm. And so it goes on.
After doing some research, it turns out your statement about pipe diameter still being in inches is correct, so the section you were referring to should be edited.
Unofficialwikicorrector (talk) 03:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plumbing and building 

message: There are no citations or any evidence to prove this claim: "Distance signs had displayed kilometres since the 1970s but road speed limits were in miles per hour until January 2005, when they were finally changed to kilometres per hour."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unofficialwikicorrector (talk • contribs) 03:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distance signs had displayed kilometres since the 1970s but road speed limits were in miles per hour until January 2005