Talk:Die Ärzte

message: LOl! All of the Ärzte are singing, and all of them can play bass, guitar and drums. Whats said in the first sentences is wrong, Gonzales on bass, Urlaub on guitar and bela at the drums is just the mostly chosed position.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.237.86 (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of whatever instruments Bela, Farin and Rod can or cannot play, they usually play one main instrument in the band i.e. Bela - drums, Farin - guitar and Rod - bass, so the first sentence of the article is correct. It doesn't mean they can't play any other instruments, just that these are the instruments they usually play in the band. Jammycaketin (talk) 20:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Members

message: They did not release 24 albums. see here for there whole discography. as the german wikipedia says correctly, they recorded:
12 albums recorded in a studio (including "Devil", a republished/remixed(?) version of "Debil"
3 albums recorded live/on concerts
40 "singles" (dont know how u call that, hope you know what i mean)
2 EPs
6 compilations
6 albums/singles which were only available for members of their fanclub
and some DVDs and so on.
However, i cannot count 24albums.
how would you count? albums (studio) + albums (live) + compilations? let me know ;)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.123.248.1 (talk) 19:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. Imo, they recorded 15 albums; Debil, Im Schatten der Ärzte, Die Ärzte, Das ist nicht die ganze Wahrheit..., Die Bestie in Menschengestalt, Planet Punk, Le Frisur, 13, Runter mit den Spendierhosen, Unsichbarer!, Geräusch, Devil, Jazz ist anders, Nach uns die Sintflut, Wir wollen nur deine Seele, Rock'n'Roll Realschule. Edited to 15 albums.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.123.236.203 (talk) 15:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot at least the "5,6,7,8-Bullenstaat", which was sold only on a tour, also "Jazz ist Anders (Economy Edition)", which was also sold only on a tour (it is a different album than regular "Jazz ist anders") and "Satanische Pferde", a Livealbum which was only availible for members of the official fanclub.
--217.82.32.75 (talk) 13:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  albums 

message: Heavy metal umlaut indicates that this band actually uses three dots over the A in their name, a sort of "triaresis" instead of a diaresis. Is this the case? If so, it should definitely be mentioned here (and I'll try to figure out some way to torture Unicode and/or TeX into providing an example :). Bryan 08:20, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, just confirmed it myself looking at album covers on their homepage. Now for the tricky bit of figuring out how to display that... :) Bryan 08:22, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like TeX can't handle it. Unicode does, in theory: 20DB is a symbol combining diaresis for three dots over the preceeding character. My computer evidently doesn't have enough Unicode support to display that yet, though. Bryan 08:42, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: Ah. I'm not familiar with the band myself, I just came here via a link from heavy metal umlaut out of typographical interest. I'll update the article with that information tonight if nobody beats me to it. :) Bryan 15:05, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triaeresis 

message: What does 'not on the index' mean, may I ask?!
:The German "Index" is a list of media that are only to be sold to adults.--84.133.52.174 09:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was under the impression that the "Index" is more like a 'banned'-list because the Ärzte-song "Geschwisterliebe" is on the Index and the band is prohibited from singing it during their concerts... or am I wrong on this? --Phalanx2006 00:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Incidentally, we have a Wikipedia article on EN  now: Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien. Still needs some work, but a very good start. Arbor 19:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: they can sing it when the crowed is adult only (but then they could only sell half of the consert tickets)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.252.156 (talk) 20:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Index!? 

message: I think it would be NPOV to say that "Die Ärzte" together with "Die toten Hosen" are both the best-known German punk-rock bands. Both by sold albums and popularity. And I know a lot of German punk-rock bands :) --62.143.10.85 22:16, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Die Ärzte, however, refer to themselves as being "punk" (I don't know about Die Toten Hosen) even though you can't really pin them down to one single genre on any one album, especially those from the 1990s and on.  I would argue that one can definitely detect a punk-rock strain in many of their songs, however. ----Phalanx2006 23:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  among the best-known German pop punk-rock bands 

message: The result was: Merge Soilent Grün into Die Ärzte. --B. Wolterding 08:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems reasonable to me. Hairy Dude 12:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposed (Soilent Grün) 

message: The article seems to be mainly a translation of the German article. I'm going to rework the whole article a bit, remove the trivia section and improve some bad translations.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Buxbaum666 (talk • contribs). 
:Woops, sorry for not signing! I was in a hurry ;) --Buxbaum666 19:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Cleanup 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Die Ärzte.png

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:2003 farin unplugged gross.jpg

message: "They have released 24 albums, more than any other German rock band."
thats simply not true. for example the band "boehse onkelz" has released roughly 48 albums. so i corrected the sentence.
There is link pointing to a different Rodrigo Gonzalez that should be corrected or removed... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.57.231 (talk) 02:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  more than any other german rock band 

message: I know for a fact that Die Ärtzen are used in German classes to help teach German since a song of theirs(Junge) was used in my German class just the other day.  How do we officially confirm this fact so that it no longer has the stupid "citation needed" tag next to it?  Do I have to scan in the handout used in class?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.223.53 (talk) 04:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say go ahead and remove the tag. Some Wikipedians just love to go overboard with the "citation needed" frenzy, apparently failing to understand the concept of "common knowledge." You seriously don't have to provide references for every tiny bit of information, especially not when it plausably is a widely known fact. Which I'd argue applies in this case. 91.33.210.69 (talk) 10:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Well there was a video that was used with my college textbook if that helps as a definite source. The book is Kontakte, but I am not sure which chapter the video was for. It is probably on the mcgraw hill website somewhere.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.196.19 (talk) 18:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  International success 

message: I was wondering if there should be a point made about their live shows. In Germany they are seen as one of the greatest bands to see live both for their music but also for the atmosphere they bring to the show. With shows averaging around 3 hours that in and of itself should be worthy of mention I would think. Also a mention of the power they have over the audience would be worth mentioning. Though Farin calls it "rockstar bullshit", he and Bela are able to get crowds of tens of thousands to do almost anything, ranging from simple waves to having the crowd preform intricate singing and dancing in rhythm to the songs. Often taking it to the extreme where they will not play the next song until the crowd starts to loose interest in games at which point they will congratulate the audience for having a mind of their own. Along with that I feel a mention should be made of the fact that songs will often have lyrics only slightly resembling their album versions often times having whole verses changed for added humor or to make a point about current events --Hangman4358 (talk) 14:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Live shows 

message: Männer sind Schweine - shouldn't it be translated rather as Men are Swines? I'm convenced it would show the intended meaning of this phrase. Indeed, all the whole lyrics plays on the ambiguity of the word Schwein, meaning both a pig and a swine, a scoundrel. It's enough to take a look at the chorus:
Männer sind Schweine
Traue ihnen nicht mein Kind
Sie wollen alle nur das Eine
Weil Männer nun mal so sind
(Men are swines, my child does not believe them, all they want is one thing, 'cause that's just the way they are) - does in not make sense? Kicior99 (talk) 02:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Old conversation, but two things: The plural of "swine" is "swine"; and "pig" is often used specifically to refer to men (e.g. the phrase "misogynist pig"). So "men are pigs" is just right. Hairy Dude (talk) 15:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation 

message: mediziinethik  - macht und ohnmacht des spahn - medizin jenseits von gut und boese
Das Buch zur Band Geschichten aus der Zukunft.  Musik medizinisch das große phantastikum.
Eine Titel und der politischen Skandaelchenhaftigkeit  von Musikerkollegen.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E0:8F08:2593:E80F:2CB7:52F1:5B1B (talk) 08:53, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  nach grosser Beachtung des Kommentars “.wir haben die Weisheit mit vorlegloeffels gefressen “ 

message: The translation of the band should be "the Doctors", as has been discussed many times. Continued arguments about what the word "der Doktor" means in German are completely irrelevant to the English translation, and the translation would not be ambiguous to an English speaker at all. The idea that we shouldn't have an accurate translation due to a false friend between languages is ridiculous. 212.81.184.54 (talk) 09:17, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name translation