Talk:Name of Canada

message: It has been common for Historians, for want of better research sources, to attribute the names given by early Europeans to places they discovered to early indigenous dialects. However, European names are much more common. (London, Paris, New Berlin (later named Kitchener by the politically correct) - all in Ontario. Melbourne in Australia, Nova Lisboa in Angola, New Amsterdam / New York ---- or from proper names; of Monarchs usually.
For instance the Island of Cuba has its name attributed to several extinct aboriginal sources. However, the home town of the captain who discovered it for Europe (Christopher Columbus)  (= grew up in) was a European town called Cuba! Coincidence? Not likely - just ignorance on the part of historians.
So where does the name Canada come from? The official view is convoluted and has survived because it is de facto incontestable. In the Wikipedia text there is a vague reference to Spanish or Portuguese explorers. Spanish? 
Consider two facts: firstly, Christopher Columbus married into the Perestrelo family, Madeirenses. Perestrelo is rumored to have shown Columbus a crude map drawn by Alonso Sanchez the last survivor of an expedition, purporting to have discovered land to the West of those islands. Highly probable: the Portuguese were searching the World by sea and also fishing in the waters west of the Azores long before Columbus set out and before Jacques Cartier was born . They were also in India already in the 15 th. century. So did the Europeans who lived closest to the Americas, explorers and fishermen, arrive in Canada before Champlain? - probably.
Nowadays we think of countries in their entirety, fully mapped and fully explored. But the Canada that the first Europeans found was a coastline with a passage or route into the fabulous wilderness whence riches could be obtained (furs).  The first French colonizers were not "settlers" like the New Englanders but "voyageurs". Canada was essentially the Saint-Laurent, a route or path to a mysterious interior.
So here's another coincidence: in the Azorean form of Portuguese, not extinct like Arawak or Mohawk but used on place names today, a route or road in called CANADA! Usually "Canada to ...somewhere".
So its not "Cá ...nada!" Nothing here. That's used as a joke by Portuguese Canadians but Canada, a place or road.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterxpto (talk • contribs) 14:06, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name Canada came from Portuguese fishermen / explorers from the 15 century, more precisely from the Azores. 

message: Perhaps someone tapped a comma instead of the intended period, something I find myself acquainted with far too often, but I will bring it up and let another set of eyes concur and make correction if I'm right.  Just before the inset text, is this:
He advocated, in the fourth Canadian draft of the British North America Act, the name "Kingdom of Canada,"Farthing, John; Freedom Wears a Crown; Toronto, 1957 in the text is said:
I would recommend this in its place:
He advocated, in the fourth Canadian draft of the British North America Act, the name "Kingdom of Canada."Farthing, John; Freedom Wears a Crown; Toronto, 1957  In the text is said:
As I quoted this out of the wiki text, the cite numbered 21 in the article becomes numbers 1 and 2 on this page.
Lytzf (talk) 09:54, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under the heading, "Adoption of ''Dominion''" 

message: This article could include something about the use of Canada versus Dominion of Canada when the Dominion of Newfoundland joined. WikiParker (talk) 12:18, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: User:WikiParker-I just added something in. Anegada (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

text: User:WikiParker-I just added something in. Anegada (talk) 00:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Canada and Dominion of Canada 

message: There are a few works from scholars directly about the subject of the article. Below is a list of three recent works from the academia world, specific on the topic, plus a work, also from a reputed academic, with historical value and quite often referenced up till today. 
* Orkin, Mark M. Orkin (2010). "The Name Canada: An Etymological Enigma" a chapter from "Canadian English: A Linguistic Reader", Strathy Language Unit, Queen’s University Kingston, Ontario 
* Rayburn, Alan (2001). “Naming Canada: Stories about Canadian Place Names”  
*  Dickason Olive P. (1984). “Appendix 1: Origin of the Name "Canada", from the book "The Myth of the Savage and the Beginnings of French Colonialism in the Americas". French version available online   
*  Elliott, A Marshal (1888). Origin of the Name 'Canada.' Modern Language Notes  Vol. 3, No. 6 (Jun., 1888), pp. 164-173   A book from 1888 with historical value. From a professor of comparative philology (a historical linguist)  at John Hopkins University, probably one of the first works on the origins of the word Canada.
I propose this list should be included in the "Further Reading" Section.  J Pratas (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think adding these gives undue weight to the idea that there is any controversy here.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 21:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

text: I have expanded this article to include more acknowledgement of the theories espoused by the sources I've been able to read for myself — though we cannot and will not portray them as all being on equal footing when it comes to credibility, there's nothing wrong with acknowledging them — and have used these documents for sourcing. (The only one I can't use yet is Dickason, because that's just a link to a promotional profile and not to a readable copy of the book — the only thing I can directly read for myself at that link is a five-sentence "preview" snippet of one single page.) But it is not appropriate or useful to repeat the links in an external "further reading" section, when they're already being directly cited as inline references. Bearcat (talk) 23:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can read French you will be able to read the full French version here  . Dickason work on the origin of the name Canada is referenced in the Third Edition of the "Aboriginal Geographical Names of Canada an annotated bibliography" published by the Canadian Permanent Committee on Geographical Names. The reference says "Une section (p. 297-298) est consacrée à l'origine du toponyme Canada, qui pourrait provenir du cri han-na-dun, Kunatun, «pays propre»."   (You should add this additional theory to the article. Dickaso is a reputed historian and the fact that she is quoted by the Canadian Permanent Committee on Geographical Names makes it relevant enough) .J Pratas (talk) 05:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further reading on an "Etymological Enigma" 

message: Cañada (pronounced "canyada"), means canyon, gorge, or ravine in Spanish. There is a city in Los Angeles County called "La Cañada- Flintridge," named for Rancho La CañadaProbablynoteworthy (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Which has what exactly to do with the name of the country of Canada? Just because it's spelled the same way doesn't automatically mean it's the same word, as the English word pour and the French word pour demonstrate for just one example out of many. Bearcat (talk) 00:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I did not know if it was related. I thought it was either an interesting coincidence or a possible source of the name & worthy of discussion. You are WAY out of line with your boorish comment. Weak people always confuse rudeness with strength...Probablynoteworthy (talk) 04:45, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: How on earth was my comment either boorish or rude? It was a simple question. Bearcat (talk) 14:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you seriously that unaware of yourself or are you being intentionally obstinate? Either way, I don't care, not interested in arguing with you or fixing you. I would appreciate it if you never reply to any of my comments if possible.Probablynoteworthy (talk) 05:59, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: "Weak people always confuse rudeness with strength" is not helpful in defusing an already tense situation. Also, if you don't want others to reply to your comments on article talk pages, don't make them. You can't tell other people not to reply to your comments except those on your own talk page. - BilCat (talk) 11:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

text: Actually, I'm seriously very aware of myself. Bearcat (talk) 16:02, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

text: Not related, as Canada was used on maps dating from the 1500s covering the region now known as Quebec City / Montreal, where there was of course absolutely no Spanish involvement. The linkage between the name "Canada" and aboriginal usage is also clearly established in accounts written by Jacques Cartier. trackratte (talk) 20:52, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  These statements are not accurate. Basque seasonal activity in the Gulf of St. Lawrence is known from 1517 to 1767. J Pratas (talk) 21:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is nowhere near Iroquoian territory, and scores you absolutely no Basque-Iroquoian contact in order to get the Spanish word for a valley or canyon down to Osheaga/Montreal (which is where you have to get it to in order to replace kanata) at all. And why would Basque fishermen be using the Spanish cañada instead of the Euskara bailara or arroila anyway? (Plus, why is the country's name Canada and not Canyada, if the Spanish cañada actually had anything to do with it?) Bearcat (talk) 05:49, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cañada (pronounced "canyada"), means canyon, gorge, or ravine in Spanish... 

message: Canada, like other Commonwealth Realms, is a Commonwealth Realm, not a Realm of the Commonwealth. Grassynoel (talk) 07:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commonwealth Realm 

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