Talk:Three points for a win

message: I undid a move to "Three Point Win".  A "three point win" is a win by a margin of 3 points, e.g. 17-14.  "Three point win" (no caps) was a description used in the NHL when the idea was suggested but abandoned.  In the sports which originally and still use it, it's always "3 points for a win".  And not just "international" football, since the table lists domestic leagues.   jnestorius(talk) 10:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three Point Win 

message: I apologize for my move.  In Canada, this term is called, simply, a, "Three Point Win".  Rather, it's a slang, if it's a term at all.  If there is discrepency on the term, I believe the call would be the author's - Or another knowledgeable user on the subject.  I leave the option up to you.  As I have been disliked for my moves in the past, I refuse to move it further.  But I suggest, at least for the title, that the, "win" should be capitalized to, "Win".  Thanks. 
Megazodiac 16:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, no harm done.  It's generally worth at least a quick Google test sanity check before moving a page.  In this case I think the relevant policies are Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Lowercase second and subsequent words in titles.  BTW there is no single "author" of any Wikipedia page -- decisions are made by consensus.  That said, there is a general convention at  Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English to keep the original spelling so as not to change back and forth between "colour" and "color"; but that doesn't apply to the present case.  I did add info on the NHL prompted by your original edit, so after it all we still got an improved article. Thanks, jnestorius(talk) 18:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Move

message: Is the traditional two points for a win system still in use anywhere? Or was the United States really its last stronghold? Steinbach (talk) 22:36, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: MLS didn't use 2-point-for-a-win; see the footnote.  IIRC FIFA or the IFAB mandated 3-points, not just as an option but as the option, around 1995. I'll try to find a cite for that. jnestorius(talk) 12:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ubiquity 

message: The article says the 2008/09 season in the French Ligue 1 would've ended differently under an old points system. However, assuming the system used was two points for a win, one for a draw (which works for the final points of both Marseille and Lyon), then Bordeaux would actually have ended with 56 points (24*2 +8), not 50, and would have therefore won anyway. Thought I'd ask here before changing it, in case there was in fact a different system used (though I can't work it out...). --86.172.14.165 (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right...maybe I listed the wrong one accidentally. Good find. Obamafan70 (talk) 15:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, thanks for getting back to me so quickly, removed it now. --86.172.14.165 (talk) 22:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  08/09 French league 

message: The 1994-95 Premiership title would have been changed with 2 points for a win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%E2%80%9395_FA_Premier_League
DavidNorman99 (talk) 21:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Champions Affected by 3 Points for a Win 

message: Does anyone know if there has ever been discussed whether the 3 pts for a win is more suitable for some tournaments than for others?  During every World cup I think of the fact that it's now possible to have secured the group win after two rounds (one team wins twice, while the other matches end with draws), meaning that one team has nothing to lose on playing a weaker team in the last match.  It happened in the aforementioned '98, when both Brazil and Nigeria in that situation lost their last game, meaning Morocco and Spain had no chance to advance.
My own opinion is therefore that a 2-1-0 is better for a 4-team round-robin groups (World Cup, European championships, etc), while the 3-1-0 might well be more suitable for complete league seasons.  Has that discussion ever been taken in other media you know of?  Fomalhaut76 (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree with you, but I don't know of any reliable sources stating this. Ironically, the 3-points rule was introduced in the World Cup before it was introduced in most national leagues.--Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suitability for different competitions? 

message: I have removed this section:
==League champions affected by three points for a win system==
*Portugal Liga 2006–07 (three points system: Porto 69, Sporting 68, Benfica 67; under prior system: Sporting 48, Porto 47, Benfica 47)http://www.soccerway.com/national/portugal/portuguese-liga-/2006-2007/regular-season/tables/, Portuguese Liga 2006-2007
*South Korea K-League 2008 (three points system: Suwon Bluewings 54 (goal difference +22), Seoul 54 (goal difference +19); under prior system: Seoul 39, Suwon Bluewings 37)http://www.soccerway.com/national/korea-republic/k-league/2008/regular-season/tables/, K-League 2008
Note: only includes seasons in which potential champions were affected.
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because apart from the potential "what if" additions it may provoke it assumes that the result of using three points for a win is the same as it would have been for two points except for the mathematical differential. Simply reading the article would tell you that the more adventurous play the extra point engenders would change the result beyond the mathematical. At the very least there is no way of knowing what differences would have been seen had the two point system been kept. Britmax (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Synthesis removed

message: The introduction states this
"teams with lower overall winning percentages may rank higher in tables than teams with higher overall winning percentages but more draws"
Which is just not true. More wins and more draws gives more points than fewer wins and fewer draws. The only way this could be true is if the writer uses "overall winning percentage" to mean "(#wins + #draws/2)*100/#games" rather than the straight winning percentage. So, it's either really badly worded, or just plain wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.185.84 (talk) 15:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In this case, "winning percentage" is taken to mean (simply) "Wins/games". So if Wigan (to pick a team) wins 3 games and loses the rest, they'll rank higher in the table than Wolves (to pick a team) if they draw win 2, draw 4, and lose the rest. Perhaps the line should read "Teams with a lower total of wins..." Well, WP:BRD Runner5k (talk) 00:18, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

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message: Maybe it is better to rename the article to 3-1-0 point system. And we also need articles for 2-1-0 point system and 3-2-1 point system. Xaris333 (talk) 22:09, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: I would like to say there a very many tactics, but a last number of ties or victories may not have changed in an extraordinarily wise. Maybe, if poor teams (teams which are situated at last places in the ranking) playing versus a team at the top of the ranking, they try to get a tie. They do all to do not loose (or to do not receive many goals). The intention of the others is to win. But if they could realize? Team A leads 1-0 (maybe 3-0), at the end of the match there is a 1-1 (3-3)...on the other hand Team B is in deficit, now it's aim is to equalise and it is happy if it could do. Sometimes it happens that both are happy at the end; Team A was confused in the last minutes of the match (it was happy that the Referee created the final whistle...   --213.225.15.186 (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tactics 

message: I could read in a newspaper of July 1988, that Yugoslavia introduced a different system. There were further 2 points awarded for a victory. When there was a tie, the teams had to create a penalty shoot out - and only the winner of this procedure received one point.  --213.225.15.186 (talk) 16:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yugoslavia 

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