Talk:Bungeo-ppang

message: Changed from “Crucian carp (Carassius carassius)” to “Goldfish (Carassius auratus)” per dictionary and wiktionary, neither of which is a reliable source. Please change back to “Crucian carp” if you think that's better. Wikipeditor 23:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it back to 'crucian carp' because according to the YBM-Shinsa Korean-English Digital Dictionary (and the personal testimony of several Korean native speakers)the Korean word for goldfish is 금붕어, whereas crucian carp is just 붕어. They are not quite synonymous.--Merkurix 16:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Wikipeditor 23:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of “bungeo” 

message: Should the title be hyphenated as "Bung-eo-ppang"?  It would be easy for non-Korean readers to confuse "Bung-eo" and "Bun-geo" without the hyphen. Kiersta 02:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyphenation of title 

message: I think that Taiyaki and Bungeoppang are the same kind of cakes. Taiyaki is called Bungeoppang in Korean. Is this a mistake?　--Azukimonaka 10:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is correct.  And it is noted in the article.  But if you keep insisting that there is nothing Korean about this and making such changes, they will be reverted.  --MerkurIX(이야기하세요!)(투고) 21:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Difference point of Bungeoppang and Taiyaki

message: I've eaten many Gyeranppang, but I've never seen one that look like scallop or any kind of seashell.
They usually look like this. http://cafe.naver.com/15668981.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Farticleid=339319
Unless someone can bring a picture of Gyeranppang that looks like seashell, I'll change the description of it.Stevefis 01:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have personally seen gyeranppang stalls in port cities such as Busan and Masan that sell them in the shape of scallops.  I will admit however that I have not seen them in this form outside of these port cities.  --MerkurIX(이야기하세요!)(투고) 12:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Does Gyeranppang look like scallop? How come?

message: despite some users complaining about the use of this word, I see it as NPOV, and merely a more formal way of writing, that is highly suitable for an encyclopedia. I think it should stay, if you don't agree, lets talk about it here, talk is better than reverting. thanksSennen goroshi 13:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  use of the word Imperial

message: they do seem pretty much identical.
are there any differences significant enough to support two articles?
Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh. I forgot. Still no objections? I guess I will merge the two. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 12:57, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  @ I disagree, one is Japanese cuisine and the other Korean cuisine and though they might look the same, the article states that it is only "assumed" to have been derived from the other. sikander (talk) 19:19, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would agree with you, but then I read the source that supports "It has commonly been assumed that bungeo-ppang derived from a similar Japanese dish, taiyaki" and I found that the source was misrepresented - the source actually states "Bungeoppang is known to have originated from the Japanese fish-shaped pancake taiyaki. According to “Bungeoppang Has a Family Tree,” written by Yoon Deok-no, bungeoppang is “a mix of waffles from the West and dumplings from the East.” It began with waffles modified by the Japanese after they were introduced to Japan in the 18th century" - so firstly, I'm going to change the article to reflect the source more accurately, then we can discuss a potential merge. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 05:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge with taiyaki? 

message: Hi, CHR52! Please stop adding photos of taiyaki. It has its own article, which is wikilinked in bungeo-ppang article. --Phonet (talk) 09:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no basis for academic papers in your remand. You're 3R violation. and You are racist. -CHR52 (talk) 09:39, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: What academic papers? Photos of taiyaki can be placed in the taiyaki article. Please watch your tones (Wikipedia:No personal attacks). --Phonet (talk) 09:50, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images of [[taiyaki]] 

message: Reading this article and its various sources, I’m wondering what exactly distinguishes bungeo-ppang from taiyaki to the degree it needs its own article. They seem like different names for the same thing. Past explanations on this article’s talk page seem to basically argue that one is Korean, the other Japanese, and that’s that. In which case it makes no sense to need two articles. It would be like having two separate articles for, say, french fries and pommes frites. Not looking to step on anybody’s toes here, not trying to somehow advocate for one country against another (not sure how merging food articles would even accomplish this). Before I go about formally proposing a merger between these two articles, I simply want to sound out the sentiments here first and be educated a little further on this matter in good faith. Thanks in advance. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging this article into the taiyaki one seems like a good idea to me, i agree it doesnt seem like theres anything that distinguishes either dish from each other apart from the name. Daiichi1 (talk) 08:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Such proposals have failed. Because the fillings have deviated significantly enough to call them separate dishes. Also, no one reads the history of the talk page?--KimYunmi (talk) 04:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes no sense. What do the fillings have to do with it? Is "pizza" no longer "pizza" if it's topped with pineapple or barbecue chicken instead of traditional Italian toppings? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:38, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging bungeo-ppang with taiyaki?