Talk:Saif al-Adel

message: The last part of this article is pure speculation, unless someone can provide some evidence to the contrary. I have rewritten. 145.253.108.22 11:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation

message: Little is known about Saif al-Islam al-Masri but he has been addressed by the enemy as "the older Saif". Theory: al-Adel could be the other and younger one. Both are Egyptians (al-Masri) and both are said to have been members of al-Qaeda's "military committee", which would explain the use of their ages to tell them apart. LDH 05:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another Saif

message: Whether Sayf al-`Adl is the same person as Muhammad Makkawi, former Colonel in the Egyptian Special Forces, is by no means established; there is in fact a good deal of evidence that they are not the same person.  There is abundant reporting on this in the Arab press; one need only do an Arabic google search on Muhammad Makkawi to find scores of such articles.  
The article states that "some intelligence reports[7] indicate that the Iranians, most notably Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, hope Saif al-Adel will rise to a senior position in al-Qaeda, in hopes of taking the reins as bin Laden's health wanes."  This article in the Telegraph (UK) by Con Coughlin provides absolutely no source or evidence for this assertion, and Coughlin is unique in making this claim (though other articles in the Telegraph have made similarly unsourced and exaggerated claims about Iran's relationship with al-Qa`ida).  I'm going to change the wording here to "one journalist claims that..."  Masarra 22:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed issues and source problems

message: I deleted the tacky speculation about Ahmadinejad, and I adjusted the bit about Makkawi. Personally I was worried that if al-Adel left Egypt in 1985, aged only about 25, how could he be a colonel? I'll scope around the Arab press a little. LDH 00:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much Masarra. LDH 04:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Okay :)

message: The article mentions Saudi Hezbollah so I changed the link from Lebanese to Saudi.  What I do not understand is how an Al Qaeda man is training with Shiites, although I am not clear about the affiliation of Saudi Hezbollah.  I think the reference cited in the article might be from a bogus expert.  I am not an expert myself, but this needs a better explanation given the history of Sunni Shiite violence and Al Qaeda being extremist Sunni.Geo8rge (talk) 22:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  He trained alongside Hezbollah Al-Hejaz 

message: I thought that the last paragraph of the lead was inconsequential, so I deleted it. Only to later find out that the mistaken identity was very important, as Saif al-Adel's real name was thought to be Mohammed Ibrahim Makkawi up until the person with that name was arrested in Cairo. After this incident, press reports and specialist publications refer to al-Adel's real name as Mohammed Salah al-Din Zaidan (or Zidan). And the FBI Most Wanted poster still reports his name as Makkawi and not Zaidan. Here are some sources about the misidentification. The last paragraph should stay, but be rewritten to make clear its significance. 
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/saif-al-adel
https://www.dawn.com/news/640191
http://english.aawsat.com/theaawsat/features/will-the-real-saif-al-adel-please-stand-up
https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-last-hope-for-the-al-qaida-old-guard-a-profile-of-saif-al-adl
- Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 21:15, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real name