Talk:Norwegian language conflict

message: Shouldn't the Norwegian Language Struggle be named det Norsk målstræv in Norwegian? -Ebbe
:That would be "det norske målstrev" (little n). But I've never heard anyone talk of it this way. -wilsonsamm
Congratulations on a very good article on the Norwegian språkstrid. Much of the text ought to be included in the article on Riksmål instead of the present confusion caused by contributors with private axes to grind. In the meantime, I look forward to your next installment on the language conflict following the reforms of 1938.
Roede 07:14, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Admitedly, 'struggle' remains more true to the original Norwegian term, but, still, wouldnt it be 'conflict' instead a more proper wording for the title? MOUNTOLIVE  fedeli alla linea 20:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norwegian language struggle 

message: Does anybody has the quote from a Labour politician (probably from the 1930s): "it's not important whether one says 'pannen' or 'panna', provided there's something in it? --Explendido Rocha 14:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Found it: Det viktigste er ikke om det heter gryten eller gryta, men at det er noe i den.; just missing the author. --Explendido Rocha 16:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 

message: Allthough Old Norwegian (gamalnorsk) is more commonly described in English as Old Norse wouldn't it be prudent to start the background with a short mention of that before Middle Norwegian? Old Norwegian differed very little from Old Icelandic (also labelled Old Norse), but it seems a bit odd to start with Middle Norwegian when it is more common in Norway at least to start with Old Norwegian. I also think the sentance "The earliest examples of Norwegian writing are from the 1200s," is a bit misleading. Older Norwegian writing has been found and (if it is insisted on labelling the common language of Iceland and Norway as not Norwegian) some of those findings suggest earlier differences between the language in Iceland and in Norway.Inge 12:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To add to that issue, I don't think it's entirely accurate to say that Norwegian (rural) dialects have their origin in Old Norse any more than Danish, Dano-Norwegian, etc., are. It seems to me that they are evolved from Middle Norwegian (which needs its own article). It appears from what I've read that the Black Plague pretty much wiped out diverging dialects in Norway and possibly all of Scandinavia. All Scandinavian languages are equally descended from Old Norse; but Norwegian rural dialects are the successors of Middle Norwegian. --Leifern 21:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: How come the Norwegians didn't try what the Icelanders did: use the ancient Old Norse written langauge after independence?  Norway had their own written tradition before Danish conquest, why didn't try to use their last written form for their current langauge?  A reponse on my talk page would be great appreciated.  Thank you!100110100 02:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How 

message: I do recall that when I wrote the section on mellomnorsk, I struggled quite a bit to find good sources and a complete account, so what I wrote may be a bit disjointed. I have in vain tried to find the reference about the last written example from 1583, though I a) doubt that I pulled it out of thin air; and b) must have found it in one of the sources I listed below. In reading a couple of other sources, 1583 is clearly far into the tail end of mellomnorsk as a written language; Aschehougs Norgeshistorie illustrates the final transition to Danish with a letter written by archbishop Olav Engelbrektsson dated Jul 15, 1523 that was very close to standard Danish of its time. The book points out that Engelbrektsson wrote in mellomnorsk until his elevation to bishop, so we are definitely looking at the mid-16th century as the end of written mellomnorsk. --Leifern 17:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mellomnorsk 

message: I really enjoyed this article; I have only 2 suggestions:
1. It's not immediately obvious what "conservative" and "radical" mean when referring to different forms of Norwegian (bokmal especially).  Reading the article, I gradually gathered that "conservative" meant "closer to Danish" and "radical" meant "less close to Danish," but I'm still not entirely confident I have that right.  Either explaining what these words mean in this context or using different words would help.
2. This paragraph I found confusing: what, exactly, was Eftestøl's view?
Parliament and the department hoped that this clarification would put the issue to rest; but in 1923, the school board in Bergen decided that the spoken language in all Bergen schools would be riksmål. Olav Andreas Eftestøl, the school director for this region - there were seven such appointees for the entire country of Norway - took this decision to the department in 1924, and another parliamentary debate ensued. Eftestøl's view was endorsed, and this put an end to the discussion about spoken language in school; though it must be noted it took longer before native speakers of Sami and Kven got the same rights; and some of the issue has emerged recently with respect to immigrant children's native language.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.133.25 (talk) 05:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 confusing things 

message: This isn't idiomatic. I'd rewrite it but I don't know what it means.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 14:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "probably for concern of his Danish audience"

message: The Article currently says:
: "Norwegians are educated in both Bokmål and Nynorsk."
Now from reading about B. and N. I would guess, that this sentence is supposed to mean
: "There are regions in Norway, where education is done in B. and regions where education is done in N.",
but just as likely it could also mean
: "All Norwegians have to study both B and N in school".
Alternatively it could also mean
: "Since regional dialects are so dominant in Norway, some teachers may use B and some may use N at the same school."
So please, for the benefit of those who don't know much about Norway, change that sentence to something unambiguous. --BjKa (talk) 12:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All the interpretations are more or less correct by themselves, but I've changed the wording to better reflect the meaning that was intended. Njardarlogar (talk) 17:24, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's see... I've lived here in norway all my life and I've moved around a bit during my school years although the majority of it was spent in one of the so called neutral cities (Trondheim) where the practice as far as I remember was that the teacher thought in their own language unless specifically teaching the subject "Norwegian" (both literature, dialects, spelling, and secondary language) so yes teachers in the same school can teach in different languages.  As for having to learn both, yes that is the case, we all have to learn a minimum of the other language to graduate and in fact since I failed in Nynorsk I myself had to redo that particular subject before I could continue into the university, however there some exceptions, if you have a different language as your mother tongue you can do an exam in that language instead I think, if I don't remember wrong then that applies to the Sami people, I'm fairly sure that it applies to people like myself who have Icelandic family, however choosing between Nynorsk and Icelandic wasn't exactly a hard choice considering the complexity of the Icelandic language...  As for the part about regions with either language dominating the teaching, well that's true as well. Trondheim is dominated by Bokmål even though it's neutral on paper and only a few teachers here used Nynorsk, however I lived in Telemark one period, almost all the teachers used Nynorsk in that particular school. Anyway, I think I've demonstrated that all of the variants of that sentence that you provided are true in some way, just like Njardarlogar said ;-) With regards Luredreier  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luredreier (talk • contribs) 04:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: This was a nickname for a TV weatherman in the 1960s(?) who insisted on using what some considered to be an inappropriate High Danish pronunciation of the word for "snow"... AnonMoos (talk) 11:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should probably include the "abominable snowman"