Talk:Fast bowling

message: This may be a stable article with a lot of good information, but the opening sentences are just not accurate.  The contrast with fast/pace bowling is NOT spin bowling but slow bowling.  And fast bowling and slow bowling are not the TWO approaches, because that leaves out medium-pace.  Countless bowlers are neither fast bowlers nor spin bowlers: in fact, that's probably numerically the largest group of bowlers in the game.
Spin bowling is properly contrasted with seam bowling, but I see a distinction is made which contrasts seam with swing.  Bizarre.  "Seam bowler" is a perfectly good term for a swing bowler.  Few seam bowlers never attempt to swing the ball.
I don't want to change anything without discussion, because these confusions are structural.  But people need to take a look.KD Tries Again 19:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading introduction 

message: I am very interested in what desirable human dimensions assist speed.I think this is a very relevant discussion for the game of cricket. From the "world's fastest bowler competition in the 70-80's the best correlation with speed was the distance the arm moved during the action so longer arms were advantages if you assume basic centripetal acceleration(I am not certain if this was what I heard but think so). Shoaib and Lee who are the quickest of today are not exactly tall compared with the average international fast bowler and I can't find Jeff Thompson's height who also was one of the game's quickest.This also extends to javelin where below average height Zelezny(6'1 or 185cm holds the record).  In my local competition there are players who generate great speed of all heights and arm lengths but I feel the technique varies between taller and shorter players i.e shorter guys have a power action and can only bowl shorter spells where taller guys generate similar pace easier and can bowl longer spells. Also I am very interested in Wasim Akram's dimensions but get extremes of 6'1-6'6. My guess is he is about 6'2 to 6'3. Gooogen 15:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Physique 

message: The introduction to the article states that Pakistan has produced fast bowlers because of pitches in Pakistan which assist them.  How is that true?  India and Pakistan are known for producing batting pitches that are never helpful for fast bowlers.  The greener pitches in England and Australia are more suited for fast bowlers.  Is there a source for this claim? Inf fg (talk) 16:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assistance to fast bowlers

message: The definition used of strike bowler is incorrect - a strike bowler is simply a bowler employed by his captain to pick up wickets at the possible expense of giving up runs - this quality is what is measured by "strike rate". It has nothing to do with the velocity the bowler bowls - an aggressive spinner could easily be described as a strike bowler. Of course, there may be a correlation between strike rate and bowling velocity, but that is by the by.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.70.98.2 (talk) 12:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Support this entirely, I'll edit the paragraph under the "Strike Bowling" heading, but I haven't read all the way through yet to see if this mistake has been repeated GGdown (talk) 16:48, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Strike Bowler Definition

message: I am amazed that spin bowling is listed in the classifications of fast bowling table.  Spin bowling is completely different to pace bowling in that spinners walk or slowly trot in off a short run-up when they bowl, and their method of attack is to use finger or wrist actions to get the ball to spin as much as possible, this includes their grip on the ball.  Pace bowlers run or jog in off a medium to long run-up; like spin bowlers the way they grip the ball is important but pace bowlers use little or no finger/wrist movement - speed and bounce are their main weapons.  As people suggested in the fast bowling classification discussion above, there are such things as slow-medium and slow pace bowling.  (I don't think there is medium-slow but I could be wrong) - both should be added.  Spin bowling is often incorrectly called slow bowling but even though spin bowlers are usually slowers their bowling style is a different one altogether - a different discipline - to pace bowling.  Furthermore, most spinners have a faster delivery, or in some cases their usual or stock delivery that is falls in or not far above the medium pace bowling range.  So, not only should spin bowling not be in this table as it is a different discipline to pace bowling, but as this table describes what speed a bowler bowls on average to be classified as fast, fast medium, etc. spin bowling can't fit in neatly above, between, or below any of the pace bowling categories,.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.95.16.17 (talk) 03:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin bowling should not be in classifications of fast bowling table 

message: I really expected a decent article about fast bowling, a fundamental topic in cricket, and this "effort" is appalling. The same applies to swing bowling, inswinger and outswinger (I can't face any more). I don't believe the issues, especially the lack of sources, will be addressed. I seriously think this should have all unsourced material stripped out and be reduced to a basic stub so that someone who knows and understands the subject can rebuild it using some accredited source material. Terrible. BoJó | talk 10:43, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed"