Talk:NewsRadio

message: The name "Dave Nelson" came from the Twin Towers. Each tower had a name, one being Dave, the other Nelson.  In the opening credits, Dave Foley's name comes across the screen with the towers in the background.
Deleted.  Is there a source for this?  I can't find any solid references to WTC nicknames, much less that Dave Nelson is related to them.
:I found when it was added, with no edit summary, the only edit of an anon; so non-verifiable. func(talk) 02:40, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twin Towers/Dave Nelson 

message: Why won't the pic load?  It hasn't been deleted, and the formatting doesn't seem to have changed.  ??? - Laszlo Panaflex 06:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I resized it a bit and now it is loading.  Laszlo Panaflex 18:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

text: The earlier pic, Image:NR-Cast-2.jpg, was a much larger version of the same picture.  The copyright isn't different for a thumbnail of a picture than for the original.  The better solution here, I propose, is to source the Image:NR-Cast-2.jpg pic to the tv.yahoo link -- it is the same pic, merely resized.  Then the nice large pic is still available to readers, instead of this thumbnail.  Laszlo Panaflex 20:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Pic 

message: "may have been famous skyjacker D.B. Cooper" is incorrect. Episode 5-8, "Clash of the Titans", explicitly established that Adam West was Cooper, not Jimmy. Correction has been made. CaptHayfever 06:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying that Jimmy "may have been famous skyjacker D.B. Cooper" is not in and of itself incorrect, as the question of Cooper's identity is up in the air (so to speak) within the story arc; West's revelation does not change the existence of the identity question in the infinitive sense. XPeeple 02:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Given how Jimmy ordered Adam West around, it was my impression that Jimmy was indeed D. B. Cooper, but that Adam West owed him big and this is how Jimmy collected on the debt, of course that's just speculation Jztinfinity 00:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jimmy was not D.B. Cooper

message: Just watched an episode where Bill's birth certificate is found and it turns out his middle name is Bill (William) and his first name is really Evelyn, or as he protests "pronounced EVE a lyn." I have changed the text to reflect this.
-I just edited it too...It is in the episode "The Breakup".  I am a bit confused if it is "Evalyn" or Evelyn.  Evelyn is the more common spelling, but the "a" in his pronunciation makes it sound as if an "A" is required.--PuckSR  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.245.64 (talk) 02:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evelyn "Bill" McNeal 

message: I love the show too, a lot, but this is pretty much a fan page.  I tried to edit some of it but it's pretty much the entire article.  Whether it's referring to actors by their first name, giggling along with a joke.. it needs to be a little more serious.  Does anyone agree? Oreo man 19:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of the fault is mine, as I started the Careers after NewsRadio section back when I first got going on Wikipedia. I made some adjustments to it that should help a little. Tigermave 22:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incredibly unencyclopedic 

message: I'm not sure about the accuracy of two portions of this article:
1) I think the ratings for Newsradio were actually healthy through season two. The turn for the worse came starting in season three.
2) I also think the 100 episode measure for syndication was the standard as of when the show was sold but is no longer the standard due to sales of shows like Newsradio. 
I don't have sources at the moment to back either of these things up, but I'm casually looking for them and will edit if I find something to back either one up. Erechtheus 17:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure about the first point, but as for the second, the 100-episode mark is a loose guideline, not a hard and fast rule. That number is mainly used for determining when to begin syndicating a still-running show. If a show finishes its run slightly short of that mark, it will still be syndicated if the company holding the syndication rights feels there's an audience for it. Generally 65 episodes is considered the bare minimum (since a show can then be shown five times a week for 13 weeks with no repeats) for viability in syndication, though even that one doesn't always hold true.Raymondluxuryacht 17:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I'm looking at it, I think the main change that needs to happen with syndication is a link to the television syndication article. Erechtheus 17:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I have verified the ratings information utilizing Google Groups to search the archive of the alt.tv.newsradio Usenet group. Newsradio was a top 40 show even when it was moved to Sundays in season two. It was not until Season 3 debuted and the show moved to Wednesday that the ratings declined. I'm not positive I have worded things perfectly, but that's the best I can do this early in the morning. I'll have another look at it later. If anybody can say it better, please do. Erechtheus 06:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings and Syndication 

message: The show was full of references to other sitcoms, from the obvious (the homage to Taxi in Matthew calling Joe "Tony Danza, Jr.", or the dig at Suddenly Susan in Joe telling Beth "there's a spunky redhead in every office") to the slightly subtle (Vicki Lewis doing Kathy Griffin's voice for her "I know" response to being told that there's a spunky redhead in every office) to the nobody's-going-to-get-this (the unfortunately unfulfilled plans to completely shuffle the show around after the fifth season, just like Cheers). While this is typical in animated shows, it seems to be pretty rare in traditional (meaning live-action) sitcoms. But I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning on the page, or how to fit it in.
(Now that I think about it, there are a lot of ways in which NewsRadio is more like a typical animated sitcom. It was funny, for one--and full of jokes that most of the audience weren't expected to get. The characters grew naturally, but almost nothing changed through a traditionally story arc. Like most animated characters, Dave always wore exactly the same clothes unless there was a specific joke in having him dress differently. There were episodes out of continuity, like "Space." And having an episode about Bill being censored for overusing the word "penis" too often actually getting postponed for a season because they refused to cut it down for the censors reminds me of, for example, South Park's recent Mohammed controversy.) --Falcotron 20:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think NewsRadio made it a point to refer to other sitcoms specifically; rather, they contained many references to pop culture in general, and some sitcom references would be naturally part of this. But you're right in that most live action sitcoms don't contain many cultural references (if any), while animated sitcoms tend to be very heavy with them. (I'm very curious on why that might be.) In either case, I think the comparison is worth noting in the article, though I have no idea how to fit it in.Raymondluxuryacht 21:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've thought about this the last two years off and on. I wonder if in regular shows they might want characters from other series to "guest appear" on occasion. It's hard to do that if they refer to them as fictional characters. (Although David E. Kelley had no compunction on that) In an animated series, like The Simpsons, characters from other series are less likely to cross-over and if they do the cross-over can be easier to accept as just a fantasy. Newsradio, after a point, was also easy to accept as fantasy. Plus characters from other series never crossed-over to it, at least not in my memory.--T. Anthony (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I seem to remember Paul Simms talking about how they originally expected to have lots of Mary Tyler Moore ripoffs^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hreferences, and were constantly surprised at how few they ended up writing. Anyway, I suspect the "Da-ave" was intentional, and maybe the MTM-ish faces and arm movements whenever she was flustered (because I've never seen her do that in any other character--which is a pity). But I'm pretty sure that both of them looking so good in capris was a coincidence. --Falcotron 09:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, and I've never met Maura Tierney, but the first time Andy Dick, he agreed to do any character from NewsRadio except Matthew, so I asked him to do Lisa, and he said, "Da-ave, I wanna have a baby! Now! Come on, gimme some!" --Falcotron 09:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: No, especially seeing as "Just Shoot Me!" came out 2 years after this started.--T. Anthony (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speaking of Cheers... 

message: I noticed, with great excitement, that NewsRadio was on TBS on monday (October 2nd) at 1 p.m. Anybody know if this is going to be a regular addition to the TBS lineup? If so we should probably add a blurb about it after the Nike at Nite mention.Tigermave 20:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TBS Syndication 

message: Does anyone have any information about any non Region 1 DVD releases for the article? I checked Amazon.co.uk, but they only had the NTSC version —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bdve (talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Beyond Region 1

message: Just wondering if anyone would mind if I added a quick bit that Jon was an earlier character on the show as the jumper?MephYazata (talk) 21:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You might also point out that Max was the third character that Lovitz played on the show. Besides the jumper, he played Bill's friend in the mental ward.Sandmaster (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lovitz again 

message: Would anyone mind if I added some detail to the character descriptions as I did with Lisa.  If so how much compared to the section for Bill?  I am not necessarily suggesting giving each character enough for their own page, though that could be a possibility too.MephYazata (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Going into detail is a good idea. The important thing is that we keep it to things that are actually important to an understanding of the character's personality and history and not just random trivial facts.Sandmaster (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I know what you meant, it's just the way it was phrased suggested that the whole Wisconsin thing was a lie. Dave's Wisconsin upbringing was a key component of his character's personality, so it's probably best to mention both origins and draw the distinction between the two. I personally suspect that the character was originally intended to have been born in Wisconsin, and then later the writers decided to have him being born in Canada as a subtle reference to Dave Foley, the actor, being Canadian, but obviously without acknowledgement from the creative staff, that's not something we can include in the article.Sandmaster (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems like in one of the commentaries they do state they made him Canadian to make the jokes "more about Dave Foley", but I don't remember which commentary or the exact wording.--T. Anthony (talk) 08:15, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I think the standard guideline is that episode titles should be put in quotes. The episode is called "Super Karate Monkey Death Car", I believe.Sandmaster (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More detailed characters 

message: As I am adding the episode titles into the article I am not sure how to internally link them to the brief/somewhat non existent? episodes listed in the guide.  I will also be adding to those synopsis so how can I link them?  Is this something already addresses that I am missing?MephYazata (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal Links 

message: I deleted the bit about Jimmy James' "full name" being James James James.  As far as I can recall, his middle name was never established within the show, only once promoting himself with the tagline, "James James, the man so nice, they named him twice." Numanoid (talk) 06:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  'James James James' 

message: I think it would be cool if somebody created a section as to how accurately NewsRadio captures News Radio stations.  I watched this show when I was young and impressionable and I believe it misled me.  I'd like to know which parts of it are accurate and which are not.
RobinReborn 13:23, 7/4/10 (EST)
ORIGINAL CAST NOTE:
pilot episode:  There was no Khandi Alexander in the pilot.  In the opening credits her name replaces Ella Joyce in the second episode.  In the pilot Catherine is referred (spoken?) to but has no lines and only appears in the near background.
Tlinafelt (talk) 16:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Suggestion 

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