Talk:David McReynolds

message: I'm a little uncertain how to proceed - except to remember to put the four tildes
at the end.
I am the subject of the paragraphs on David McReynolds and, of course, like all very
minor figures in Aemerican history am delighted to find there is even a single line
devoted to me.
But . . . originally the reference to Alvin Ailey was that I was his long time lover 
and this was amended after I wrote. However as the wording stands now it implies a
relationship I didn't have with Alvin. Did I know him? Yes, very well. Did we make out
once or twice, yes. I am certainly enormously grateful to Alvin for letting me into the
world of Kenneth Patchen, e. e. cummings, and William Carlos Williams, when we were both
students at UCLA. And yes, I was delighted to visit him at the Lestor Horton Dance Theatre.
All a big part of my life - he was black, I was white, he was gay, and I wasn't sure, until
Alvin, that I was.
But Alvin Ailey is a major figure in American Dance, he had, I am sure, many close friends,
and I feel as if my having known Alvin (along with having known many others who had a deep
impact on my life, such as Allen Ginsberg) is given more weight than it merits, almost as
if I was drawing on Alvin's fame.
Sincerely,
David McReynolds
66.108.116.111 03:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alvin Ailey

message: You're the best one to edit your own life story (and don't worry, someone will tell you if you get too self lauditory).  
I for one would like to see your additions to and edits of the article!
T L Miles 21:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, in general autobiographical editing (and other potential conflicts of interest) are discouraged due to concerns over verifiability and neutrality.  It's recommended that in such situations material be placed on the article's talk page, to be incorporated (or not) by a more neutral third party.  This isn't official policy and it isn't set in stone, but I think it's a decent guideline.  Check out WP:AUTO and WP:COI for more information and recommendations. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 03:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit away, David

message: Hello all... 
An image used in the article, specifically :Image:David mcreynolds.jpeg, has a little bit of a licensing issue.  The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive.  It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard.  As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article.  If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.
You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image needs replacement

message: Four years ago, the subject of the article asked here about the incorrect statement concerning Alvin Ailey. The answer, above, is technically correct. A week ago the issue was raised again on the Help Desk; I gave a reply that was again technically correct but, as I remarked there, not very helpful. The question was moved to an archive without any further comments.
I have removed the statement. This is contrary to the letter of WP:BLP, which only permits the removal of unsourced material. So for this one I am invoking the spirit of WP:BLP, and perhaps this rule or this one.
By all means put it back, but first ask yourself, "To what extent does this information improve the encyclopedia?" -- John of Reading (talk) 09:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Alvin Ailey again

message: WP:NPOV demands that we avoid stating opinions as facts and avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts, and indicates a preference for nonjudgmental language. Whether or not McReynolds's comments actually were racist has been heavily disputed among members of the SPUSA, so vigorously that a number of members actually left the party in reaction to what they perceived as a fallacious hit job against McReynolds, and even the party's female co-chair has asserted that what McReynolds said wasn't actually racist. By saying, point blank, that McReynolds's comments were racist, this article is stating an opinion as fact, it is stating a seriously contested assertion as fact, and it is stating so in the most judgmental language possible.
Would it not be more acceptable, in keeping with WP:NPOV, to say the following instead?
In January 2015, the Socialist Party USA's National Committee voted to censure McReynolds over comments made on social media regarding the Charlie Hebdo shooting and Shooting of Michael Brown, which a majority of the committee perceived as being racist. McReynolds resigned from the SPUSA shortly thereafter.MNTRT2009 (talk) 12:21, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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