Talk:Veer-Zaara

message: It might be a good idea to merge this page with the other Veer-Zaara page that's floating around ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veer-Zaara_%282004_film%29 )  Is there a reason why there would be a film page and a non-film page? GAdam 22:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Veer-Zaara(film) page

message: I think it's important trivia that Zinta's boyfriend is the great-grandson of Jinnah, as this is a film about the conflict between India and Pakistan. It would be relevant to show that one of the actors has an important link to the foreign country they are covering.
: Anon, we're trying to stay away from "gossip" about living people. Especially the "who's dating who" that is the staple of so many movie columns. A marriage, that would be different, and noteworthy. 
: Now, I could be wrong here. How about going to the Indian cinema project page and getting feedback from more people than just me? There are a lot of people involved with this project now and we don't all think alike. So I could be over-ruled. Zora 06:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey, im the one who removed the comment. I don't think it is necessary to point out that Zinta's going out with Jinnah great grandson. The film itself really does not mention anything about Jinnah. I dunno people. If everyone is happy with the comment, then im fine with it. Pa7 14:41, 03 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jinnah's great-granddaughter in law (possibly)?

message: Rani's role is not credited as highly as Preity's.  It's on the DVD cover (Shahrukh Khan, Preity Zinta, & Rani Mukerji).  So, we will not change that order.  It is quite possible that Rani's acting was more acclaimed.  If so cite that, there is no objection to that.  But to list the actor in front of the lead because you think she's better is ludicrous.  Please stop doing that. gren グレン 07:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preity vs. Rani 

message: I posted something similar on the Fanna Talk Page, but that article is in bad shape since someone decided to just cut and paste the synopsis from the movie's website!  But here is my question (which relates to all Hindi movies):
I don't know if the format of this article has followed a pre-set template for movies (it appears very similar to other articles about Hindi films). However, as a user, I would find it very useful to have the names of the songs included in the article (after all, most Hindi movies live or die on the strength of their soundtracks and people consider the songs quite important). But I didn't want to add a "Soundtrack" section if it would violate a pre-authorized, agreed-upon template. If that is not the case, I'd be happy to create the section with the appropriate links. --Smalek 17:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A list of song titles would be fine. Some movie articles have them. Writing an article for a well-known song would be OK too, I think, if it's REALLY well-known. Zora 21:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack Question 

message: Rani was only given the supporting role since the lead was given to Aishwarya Rai at that time who was far successful than Rani at that point of time. Rani had already prepared the role of Saamiya, so when Ash left, Rani didn't want to do the lead as she was prepared. Then, Preity came as the lead. Still, movie credits point out Rani's name before Preity due to seniority and popularity. Go see the official website credits or better see the movie for yourself.
shez15 23:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDB credits Preity before Rani- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420332/. Should close THIS discussion at least. Haphar 12:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: See the movie and when the cast is credited in the beginning of the movie, it follows: Shah Rukh Khan and then Rani Mukerji and Preity Zinta after her. It's merely because Rani is a senior to her. Even on the official website, you will clearly read Rani's name before Zinta if you go click on credits. IMDB is nothing. It's the case of Devdas here, Madhuri Dixit's name came before Aishwarya even though Rai won all the lead actor awards for the film and Dixit won one supporting role award!
It's not important of Aishwarya Rai dropped out of the movie - and it's not a matter of popularity or seniority, it's about who are the major characters: the movie is named after them, so that's how they get credited. And IMDb is standard when it comes to movies, as it is the largest movie databse on the planet. --Plumcouch 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with Plumcouch. Yes, Rani is credited before Preity but it seems silly to have the supporting actress ahead of the leading actress. Mukerji is senior to Zinta but that is still no reason to put Zinta after her. Pa7 14:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Why don't you guys get it? It's like a Devdas case. Madhuri is the supporting actress. We all know that but even on wikipedia here, she is credited before Ash, the lead actress. Plus, she is credited before her even in the movie. By the way, I just saw Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega again and in the end, Rani is credited before Preity but I have made no changes because it will upset you. But here, I must be firm. Rani is even credited before Zinta in the poster.shez 13:04, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rani Vs. Preity

message: I believe if we can stick to IMDB, it's the best option but when in doubt, we can find the casting as in the movie on the net most probably. Just give me some popular movies you have trouble with and we can find the actual movie on the net. For Veer-Zaara, the problem should be solved as here's the opening sequence of the movie where the cast is credited.  There should be no problem now with Veer-Zaara. We can paste this reference on the talk page, so whenever one changes the cast, the proof lies on the talk page. We should now look on other movies where IMDB seems to be not a proper reference. - shez_15
:There is a problem. Everybody knows that Mukerji is credited. Zora, Pa7, Plumcouch, Haphar and even me knew that earlier, but they objected and they're majority. Film credits are not good also because of the fact that filmmakers tru to make their actors happy and as I said hundred times already, we are not filmmakers. That's Wikipedia and I don't find the reason to credit the supporting cast before the leading. Please don't try to make your own rules. I was also a part of this discussions where Grevitar, you and me were involved, and I disagree. Thanks, --Shshshsh 21:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem Solved 

message: Here's the official reference for the casting. Please do not change the cast list. Follow this: .
Official List:
#Shahrukh Khan 
#Rani Mukerji 
#Preity Zinta 
#Kirron Kher 
#Divya Dutta 
#Boman Irani 
#Anupam Kher
No. We can't use movie credits, unless you find them for every film. If you found only for pair of films, it would be unfair for the rest films here. Zora already said, we cast the heroes. I do think we need a source for this, for now keep IMDB. --Shshshsh 21:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Zora, Plum, Pa7 and Haphar already discussed this. Film credits is nothing, especially whne so much reasons are involved in this. As you said it is an encyclopedia, not the film. And here in the encyclopedia, we cast the heroes first. Film credits were rejected earlier by them. Now I'm not talking on this, forget it. You will never find a source which displays all the film credits. The problem now is IMDB and its reliability. Don't speculate please. I didn't see that Grenvitar completely agreed. He said that he was not sure. Zinta WILL be credited before Rani here. Not because of her being my favorite, because she is the heroine. --Shshshsh 14:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She is not the lead and it has been discussed and closed before that Zinta is the lead and would get higher billing on the article.  Haphar 16:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Reference for the Movie 

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message: I just noticed that all citations on the analysis section do not mention pages. --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 01:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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message: * Filmfare, review --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 09:19, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I propose that section Awards and nominations be split into a separate page called List of accolades received by Veer-Zaara. The content are large enough to make their own page. —Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the split. Shahid • Talk2me 08:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting proposal 

message: md 23:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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