Talk:Anarchism/Archive 7

message: Is anyone interested in discussing things politely and coherantly? I am, and I'll start by saying I do not dispute the article as it stands, and am removing the header. Sam Spade 05:47, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  why is this article still disputed? 

message: If so, perhaps you could tell me if there is enough agreement amongst anarchists to allow much of any opinions from anarchists in the body of the article (as references), and whether perhaps it might do best to generally focus on the opinions of outsiders looking in. While this would open up an entirely other form of bias, it might well allow us at minimum a bit of consistancy of definition, and perhaps some objectivity as well. I am very concerned about getting bogged down in rhetoric and deceit and the other ugly trappings of politics in this article. I'd like to focus on what anarchists are, and what most people think of them, as well as what they might call themselves, or claim. I am still concerned that for many, it is simply a prettier name for "communism", and has little to do with anarchy itself. Sam Spade 04:19, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The term anarchism has been laid claim to by so many different groups that this becomes a tough question. There isn't a consistancy of definition, and that's one of the central problems of writing an encyclopedia article on the subject. I mean, I can tell you right off the bat that the article doesn't pay nearly enough attention to anarcho-capitalsim and "right wing" anarchism. I think the article would benefit most substantially from clear and separate sections on types of anarchism, honestly. Unfortunately, I'm not quite qualified to do an overview - though I can do a great section on anarcho-capitalism. :) Snowspinner 05:15, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

text: In the Communist Manifesto, it is claimed that the state would wither away in a communist society. So the communist ideal is a form of anarchy, tho there are many other ideals that could be called anarchist. AdamRetchless 13:20, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  are you an anarchist yourself? 

message: Also, if the non-communist anarchist ideas copuld be given a bit more attention/space, I would appreciate it. I'm particularly unclear as to what sort of system they are in favor of. Sam Spade 23:11, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: As you've probably noticed, I'm currently merging a bunch of articles into this one. When I get through that, we'll have a clearer sense of what's actually not covered, and what's simply covered in an offshoot article. Then I'll work on the schools of anarchist thought section, which will hopefully be illuminating. Snowspinner 23:18, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Larger picture

message: I don't think we need a huge number of articles in the form of "anarchism and X" - especially not repeatedly referred to in terms of being a main article on a topic. These should probably all be folded into the main text of the article. For now, I've moved them to the see also section. Over time, I'll work on incorporating them into the article. Snowspinner 21:44, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: The anarchism and x articles

message: The section on modern anarchism reports that many anarchists of the early 20th century were Jews. Is this really relevant? Were the anarchist-jewish communities, or were these isolated individual Jews? Were their anarchist attitudes specifically related to the experience of being a Jew in Russia? AdamRetchless 02:24, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish anarchism