Talk:History of terrorism

message: Hello, I've decided to take the case here and offer my help as a mediator if others agree. I have no prior involvement in this article, and I don't believe I have any significant involvement of the editors involved in the dispute occurring in this article. Because the dispute is restricted to a single article, for the sake of transparency and convenience I'd like to discuss matters on this talk page, unless anyone objects.
What's needed is a list of people involved. Tcncv made the request for mediation but listed a number of people who may or may not be interested in the process. So I would like to see who would wish to participate in the mediation, and whether or not anyone objects to having mediation at all. Feel free to respond here at this talk page, thank you. -- Atama頭 23:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm closing the mediation request. Haberstr showed interest in participating, but Sherzo has yet to respond and has since edited both on the main article space and the talk page here. Mediation requires more than one person. -- Atama頭 17:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informal Mediation 

message: Many historical books talks about terrorist attacks performed by masons (for example, against Church, or between masons, like terrorism against Napoleon by francmasons)
Anyone knows anything about it? Can be masons be considers terrorist?--Ssigfrrido (talk) 12:50, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masonry 

message: As noted in the comments above, the invention of dynamite and its subsequent by revolutionaries transformed 'terrorism' fundamentally in the late 19th century. But the word is not in the article (except in current footnote 31). Somebody feel free to input a comment, possibly in the introduction of '19th century terrorism'.Haberstr (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Another lie. Please research your aspersions before you publish them. Also, please imitate me and improve the 'History of Terrorism' article rather than spending all your time on the discussion page resisting rational change or attacking people making positive changes. For example, the article needs to be condensed and your contribution on this page in that regard is consistently to attack all fair-minded ideas for doing so.Haberstr (talk) 20:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Mr. anonymous right winger is back again. I called the statements about me lies. Do you understand the distinction between what I said and your attack?Haberstr (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Dynamite' not mentioned in article 

message: ...for one week, in the hopes of heading off the revert-war that seems to be erupting again. EyeSerenetalk 10:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article protected (again) 

message: There appears to be a very close similarity in disruptive 'style' and  POV from a number of IPs and at least one blocked registered User at this article. Could someone more familiar with the process please initiate an investigation. Cheers. RashersTierney (talk) 18:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible sock-puppet

message: :As the slow revert war is continuing I have protected the article for a month. There was a mediation case on this Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-10-21/History of terrorism that was not followed. I will talk  to User:Atama and ask him/her to reopen it.  As an indication of good faith I suggest strongly that those who are reverting this page take advantage of the dispute resolution process. --PBS (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there, I'm totally open to doing the mediation (I just recently finished a different case). I can reopen this case (anyone can, actually) but I wanted to see which editors want to participate in the mediation. -- Atama頭 23:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As before, I'm fine with dispute resolution and any reasonable compromise. (I think what I've contributed in the body of History of Terrorism shows a willingness to be inclusive toward the 'other side' in this dispute.) Hope it works.Haberstr (talk) 23:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

text: No problem. I'll reopen the case shortly, it seems to me that the principle disputants here are Sherzo and Haberstr, and if Sherzo agrees to the mediation we can proceed with anyone else dropping in who wants to. I'll make note of this in the case. If it takes weeks for that to happen it's not a problem for me. -- Atama頭 19:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm having doubts about this mediation based on Sherzo's message on my talk page. Sherzo has declared that Haberstr is a vandal and that their only interest in this article is to revert Haberstr's edits. Frankly, I think that rather than mediation, Sherzo should be strongly encouraged to not edit this article if they have no productive interest in it. This seems more like a user conduct problem than a content dispute. -- Atama頭 22:36, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When User:Sherzo made his/her last edit to this page (s)he also filed an WP:ANI against me and as you say left a message on your talk page. Given these two actions I consider the edit to be disruptive and I am going to revert it. I think it is a better alternative to leaving the page indefinitely protected. If User:Sherzo reverts again without engaging in good faith conflict resolution, given the comment placed on your page, I will block his/her account. -- PBS (talk) 08:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: user:Sherzo was blocked for this edit because user:Sherzo reverted to a version preferred by user:Sherzo ignoring warnings to use the dispute resolution process. I have reverted that edit. This is an administrative reversal, and should not be taken that I endorse or approve of the current version. -- PBS (talk) 01:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Further to the above, I think it's quite possible they won't even notice notice a 24-hour block, but I didn't want to go straight to indef. However, a long block would be my inclination should they revert again. EyeSerenetalk 12:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Sherzo. You have been asked repeatedly to use the dispute resolution resolution process. Haberstr has shown willingness to go down that path (so until you engage in that process you can not expect anyone to have much sympathy with your actions even if they disapprove of the current content of the article). The blocks that you are incurring will get longer unless you stop reverting without first following the dispute resolution process. The blocks are not to punish you but encourage you to use the process, if you do so and initiate an RFC, there is no reason why you can not place requests on the talk pages of various appropriate projects to request that experts review the article contents. -- PBS (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: One month block 2009-12-12

message: There are many events throughout world history that could be understood as terrorism by one of the well over 100 definitions. The problems with the Gunpowder Plot as an instructive example are many, and, well, the Sons of Liberty . . . So very very Anglo-American centric. In any case, I'm trying to get the article under 110K in length, that's my main motivation for eliminating the section devoted to these two topics. They are still prominently referenced and linked (to their wikipedia main articles) in the introductory paragraph of the 'pre-reign of terror' 'terrorism' section.Haberstr (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gunpowder Plot & Sons of Liberty off-topic and misleading 

message: The quality of these article has nose dived. It has primarily become one editor's soapbox and this is very bad has it has become extremely POV to that editors opinions. I have read a few books on terrorism almost all that deal with it's history mention the gunpowder plot few dealt with the reign of terror then only in passing and none dealt with terror bombing and the horrendous acts of the soviet and nazis regimes, if the acts of states are to be included why aren't the Roman decimations included or Cromwell wrath upon Ireland or the 30 years war or the spanish inquistion? all wars can be considered acts of terrorism since people are terrorised in them. As such their inclusion is at best Original research at worst the soapbox POV of one editor who treats the article as his own property, driving out all those who disagree with them, So the article no longer reflects any sort of consensus thinking. The quality of writing on much of the article is now much poorer especially the introduction. Weasel words have sprang up and sourced statements have been deleted with no explanation. 
This article should be of much higher quality as it deals with important and controvesial issues and hopefully by tagging it this we attracted the attention of better editors than I who can move it back onto the right track or at the very least warn the readers of the severe problems the article suffers from. Capt Jack Doicy (talk) 10:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: the account User:Capt Jack Doicy has been blocked, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Capt Jack Doicy/Archive#Clerk.2C patrolling admin and checkuser comments -- PBS (talk) 08:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Severe problems with the article 

message: The table column for the person or organisation making the accusation is missing! Any entry without an accuser should be removed, as it is otherwise an Wikipedia editorial POV list. -- PBS (talk) 06:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire table should be removed, seems to be duplication and very poorly edited. But I guess some people like tables, so I will leave it be.Haberstr (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Added 'accused by' column, but it's empty so far.Haberstr (talk) 22:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table of non-state groups accused of terrorism 

message: We need a brief section on this important theory and its leading theorist. The story of 'terrorist' theory is generally neglected in this article.Haberstr (talk) 18:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Added one.Haberstr (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on "propaganda of the deed" theory and Carlo Pisacane  

message: See . Are there any objections to doing things this way? I think it would vastly reduce the glaring (but implicit) POV of naming some groups in subsection titles but altogether ignoring other groups accused of terrorism. I also feel that the focus on 'terrorist groups' is misleading, as many of the groups cited in the history warrant multiple identifying adjectives preceding the word 'group' (in addition to the words 'alleged terrorist').Haberstr (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you elaborate a little? Not entirely sure what it is you are proposing. RashersTierney (talk) 22:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the link. The primary organizing pattern would be chronological, and the secondary one would be regioinal. There would be no more 'group name' sub-categories, or they would be a third-level organizing pattern. I think this would better reduce the POV-ishness of 'labeling' a group as 'terrorist'.Haberstr (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems reasonable to me. Go for it. RashersTierney (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Also eliminated sentences about Operation Gladio, as that involves tentative guerilla warfare planning, which doesn't seem to be terrorism.Haberstr (talk) 22:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of terror organized chronologically & by region rather than by 'group' 

message: Please read the following from WP:WEIGHT: "Undue weight applies to more than just viewpoints. An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. For example, discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and neutral, but still be disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic. This is a concern especially in relation to recent events that may be in the news. Note that undue weight can be given in several ways, including, but not limited to, depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements."Haberstr (talk) 22:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am too concerned about this trend. The deleted information was not "Anti-<whatever> POV" , rather it is factual information with impeccable reliable sources. Notable facts cannot be considered "POV". Censorship of relevant facts is not the correct way to achieve due weight. One example is Haberstr's censorship of the entire existence of Black Hand led by Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, making a false impression that the Jewish groups were the only ones involved in terrorism in Mandate Palestine, and ignoring the entire subsequent 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. On what grounds could this deletion be justified? Marokwitz (talk) 10:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Odd indeed. The Jewish militant movements in Palestine were irrelevant compared to the violence instigated by Arab parties during the revolts. I don't know how else to clean this up because Hab continues edit over poor edits again and again. I don't think we can simply revert back to a more neutral state. I freaking hate enforcement boards, but if someone wants to open an RFC, dispute resolution or call in in admin I wouldn't object. Wikifan12345 (talk) 18:24, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Note that according to ArbCom ruling, Removal of sourced edits made in a neutral narrative is disruptive. Marokwitz (talk) 12:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have much interest in trying to deal with Hab's....unique-style of editing. I don't think he is ever going to change his ways without some sort of intervention. The article should be restored to a more neutral state sooner rather than later. Wikifan12345 (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, although I would still hope for participation by additional editors, it appears we have near unanimous agreement. Will go forward to restore the deleted information. Of course the door is open for additional discussion here on a point by point basis. Marokwitz (talk) 06:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repairing undue weight given 'Palestinian terrorism' entries in mid-September 2010 

message: Why is no mention made of Jehovah's slaughter of Egypt's newborn (Exodus chapter 11) as a means of coercing the Pharaoh? Yes, it may not be true; but many believe it. And yes, this act is said to have been perpetrated by a supernatural being, rather than men; but it is still  a "historical" example of terrorism that not only sets a paradigm -- if true it is certainly the largest act of terrorism of all time.189.38.128.8 (talk) 11:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exodus 11 

message: I think the article needs to be carefully gone over to back sure the wording is balanced as terrorist is a loaded term, I appreciate it's difficult to talk about a subject that in and of itself is loaded, but at points the article is unbalanced and can present however unintentionally the appearance of bias.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.36.38.240 (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording 

message: In one section a attack is listed geographically as the victim, Canadian plane being destroyed is cited as North America how the 9/11 attacks are listed as middle east because that is were the terrorists were based. This should be standardised as one style or the other.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.36.38.240 (talk) 08:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  incosistencies in style 

message: The gist of that consensus is that the "U.S." definition of terrorism is not the controlling definition. Many scholars believe that definition is an "easy way out" definition that makes it nearly impossible for governments to be guilty of terrorism. I understand the need to recognize that the "U.S." definition has great weight, but it should not preclude a more diverse history, including (of course) the revolutionary terror in France that generated the term terrorism. Origins matter, and the diverse usage of a term matters, especially for one with a fundamentally disputed meaning.Haberstr (talk) 06:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please respect 2010 consensus version of History of Terrorism 

message: The first action of terrorism was, in light of Quran and Bible, was of Qaabil. He killed Haabil. Pharoahs were also terrorist, and those who tries to hang Prophet Isa(a.s)
Then their is a long history till Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).
The largest terrorist in the History of Islam was Umer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.45.177.202 (talk) 07:22, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early history of terrorism ignored 

message: There is seeming consensus that we want to allow into this history the perspective that some scholars label state groups and not just non-state groups as terrorist. However, I have just had to restore again the sections on Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR, and the alleged terror bombing (Guernica, Nanking, etc.) practiced in the run up to and during WWII. If we agree that there is no world consensus view that terrorism can only be practiced by non-state groups, then the narrative should include at least the very prominent representatives of state terror. Nazi Germany? Stalinist Russia? Those two regimes more than qualify. I also think the 'Rape of Nanking' should be included in the history somewhere.Haberstr (talk) 08:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: By and large it is a mistake to include warfare in such a narrative, as by its very nature one of the aims of war is to demoralise an enemy, and a counter propaganda term for such demoralisation is terrorism (we demoralise their population, they terrorise ours). The issue is not one of whether an act terrorises an enemy, but whether the act is a breach of the laws of war and that is beyond the scope of this article. That is not to say that crimes committed against a state's own population while the state is at war can not be mentioned as those types of crimes are not war crimes (see the exclusion of Nazi persecutions against their own people at Nuremberg but the inclusion of those from other nationalities as an example of this). -- PBS (talk) 11:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope we can compromise by including only entries that conform either to the modern 'non-state' definition or to the original, 'Jacobin' definition of terrorism, i.e., the systematic practice of terror to maintain control and especially to suppress opposition to a regime. In that sense, Stalin's USSR, Hitler's Germany, and the original Jacobin Reign of Terror are in, but bombardment and other violent acts during war, including the WW II resistance actions, are out.Haberstr (talk) 07:20, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restoring state entities to the historical narrative 

message: This has long been a problem with the article. What do you think?? My expansion looks like this, and I know we still need to attach references, which can be found in the main body of the article:
The history of terrorism is a history of well-known and historically significant individuals, entities, and incidents associated, whether rightly or wrongly, with terrorism. Scholars agree that terrorism is a disputed term, and very few of those labelled terrorists describe themselves as such. It is common for opponents in a violent conflict to describe the other side as terrorists or as practicing terrorism.[1]
Depending on how broadly the term is defined, the roots and practice of terrorism can be traced at least to the 1st century Sicarii Zealots, though some dispute whether the group, which assassinated collaborators with Roman rule in the province of Judea, was in fact terrorist. The first use in English of the term 'terrorism' occurred during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror, when the Jacobins, who ruled the revolutionary state, employed violence, including mass executions by guillotine, to compel obedience to the state and intimidate regime enemies. The association of the term only with state violence and intimidation lasted until the mid-19th century, when it began to be associated with non-governmental groups. Anarchism, often in league with rising nationalism and anti-monarchism, was the most prominent ideology linked with terrorism. Near the end of the 19th century, anarchist groups or individuals committed assassinations of a Russian Tsar and a U.S. President.
In the 20th century terrorism continued to be associated with a vast array of anarchist, socialist, fascist and nationalist groups, many of them engaged in 'third world' anti-colonial struggles. Some scholars also labeled as terrorist much of the internal violence and intimidation practiced by Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany. Increasingly, however, as the century neared its end, the United States and other Western powers pushed for a consensus definition of 'terrorism' that would largely or completed exclude state entities.Haberstr (talk) 08:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion of intro section 

message: Just to clarify, the killers of Lee Rigby have been convicted for murder. That is how reliable sources describe it, and, as per WP:BLPCRIME,  that is how it is to be described in Wikipedia. Please could the IP who thinks otherwise realise that all edits need to be substantiated by such reliable sources, and not by personal opinion which violates WP:OR. Alfietucker (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lee Rigby 

message: For one, it only really cites Jewish and Muslim religious terrorism, even though the former is very uncommon (limited to about 3 attacks in modern history), much rarer than Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and Sikh terrorism, which for whatever reason aren't included. Buddhist nationalists have burned Muslims alive, why the hell isn't that included? This article is a travesty. --Monochrome_Monitor 03:04, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of Bias on this article 

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659 people died in Lebanon between 1982 and 1986 in 36 suicide attacks directed against American, French and Israeli forces, by 41 individuals with predominantly leftist political beliefs who were adherents of both the Christian and Muslim religions.[190] The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing (by the Islamic Jihad Organization), which killed 241 U.S. and 58 French peacekeepers and six civilians at the peacekeeping barracks in Beirut, was particularly deadly.[191][192][193][194] Hezbollah ("Party of God") is an Islamist movement and political party officially founded in Lebanon in 1985, ten years after the outbreak of that country's civil war. Inspired by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and the Iranian revolution, the group originally sought an Islamic revolution in Lebanon[citation needed] and has long fought for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon. Led by Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah since 1992, the group has captured Israeli soldiers and carried out missile attacks and suicide bombings against Israeli targets.[195]
The source is listed as: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-logic-of-suicide-terrorism/ [190]
First off, this entire "article" is apparently a Q&A transcript. The contents of the QA and the actual phrasing of the article are a bit misleading. Compare the following from the article:
659 people died in Lebanon between 1982 and 1986 in 36 suicide attacks directed against American, French and Israeli forces, by 41 individuals with predominantly leftist political beliefs who were adherents of both the Christian and Muslim religions.[190]
From the QA:
TAC: There have been many kinds of non-Islamic suicide terrorists, but have there been Christian suicide terrorists?
RP: Not from Christian groups per se, but in Lebanon in the 1980s, of those suicide attackers, only eight were Islamic fundamentalists. "Twenty-seven were Communists and Socialists. Three were Christians." Who would mix demographics in this manner? Written or otherwise? Why answer a question asking how many Christian suicide attackers by tossing in a single religion, a single subset of an ideology (Islamic Fundamentalism and then says Communism and Socialism as well, making no distinction as to any specifics at all. Whether it be State Socialism or any form of anti-state socialism. His statistics are also incorrect in this context, as he is referring ONLY to Suicide Terrorism. 
Regarding inaccuracies/inconsistencies:
In a criticism of Pape's link between occupation and suicide terrorism, an article titled "Design, Inference, and the Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism" (published in The American Political Science Review), authors Scott Ashworth, Joshua D. Clinton, Adam Meirowitz, and Kristopher W. Ramsay from Princeton charged Pape with "sampling on the dependent variable" by limiting research only to cases in which suicide terror was used. In response, Pape argues that his research design is sufficient because it collected the universe of known cases of suicide terrorism. In a rejoinder, Ashworth et al. discuss how even large samples of the dependent variable cannot be used to explain variation in outcomes, why suicide terrorism in some places but not others, if the sample does not vary. Assaf Moghadam has also criticized Papes conclusions. There are additional references both here on other wikipedia pages, as well as external sources that are credible. One publication actually stated: "While Pape’s books are not nearly as egregious as his mentor’s, he does share with Mearsheimer a proclivity for disguising inflammatory political arguments behind a thin patina of social science which breaks down upon the slightest critical examination.". He also completely neglects to include the 1981 Iraqi Embassy bombing you can see the citations here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack#Nationalist_resistance_and_religion where they debunk his theories.
So in effect, these random statistics that he is trying to pass off as gospel are probably inaccurate. Regardless of the the phrasing and misquoting theamericanconservative.com has put into print. Also, judging that website, it looks like its primarily an opinion-based blog site.
That's it. Nothing further regarding additional data, except for on the cpost website which uses both erroneous data and/or algorithms that do not calculate the data properly. There is no information pertaining to their individual political alignment whatsoever, nor their religious beliefs at the time. Moreover, there when I use the cpost site (using his data) to check on attacks in Lebanon between 1982-1989. See below:
Total Attacks 	37
Total Deaths 	868
Total Wounded 	778
Avg Deaths per Attack 	23.5
Avg Wounded per Attack 	21
Also, the word "leftist" appears 7 different times in this wiki stub, whether warranted or not, in most places it seems deliberately tacked on to express some kind of political opinion with flawed data or selective phrasing and/or cherry picking specific parts of the government infrastructure and just labeling the whole thing "Socialism" without explaination and moving on. I have never seen a professional publication anywhere use the term "leftist" when describing people who are left of the center point on the political spectrum. Some of these blanket terms might be accurate (in a very very loose sense) but its dressed up as something its not because its not used within the correct context. Most of these alleged factions/individuals do not have that kind of information available, so I'm wondering what the real source is, if there is one. Oh and theamericanconservative.com back-links to Breitbart in certain sections of their (shoddy) website, they don't have a good reputation for reporting anything other than fantasy-tabloid fiction that is usually a far cry from anything even remotely resembling a fact.
Thanks for reading,
K-Daxion (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: The title of the following cite makes me think that it was automatically generated:
 "... eight were Islamic fundamentalists. Twenty-seven were Communists and Socialists. Three were Christians" http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-logic-of-suicide-terrorism/. The American Conservative, July 18, 2005. Verified 22 June 2008.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism#cite_ref-190
The title is a link itself that gets redirected to the home page of the actual link. The quote does not even exist in the linked article.
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message: I think there appears to be a complete absence of mention of animal liberation and eco terrorism despite these being growing trends in the late 20th century and early 21st century.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/animal-rights-extremism-and-ecoterrorism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/902751.stm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:DA42:200:5E7:EEF0:CC32:443 (talk) 18:49, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: The entirety of this section only focuses on US terrorism when there are certainly Latin American and South American episodes of terrorism. There needs to be a wide expansion of information on this subject. Also, the entire first paragraph does not have citations. Hannahgoss (talk) 16:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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message: In the section 'Emergence of modern terroism', there is reference made to 'Greek fire'. However, pro-Confederates in Civil War era America could not possibly have used it, as the secret of its composition was lost hundreds of years prior. What was actually used on that day? Taishō219 (talk) 15:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
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