Talk:Pamiris

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: Does any one knows the exact number of pamiris, especially in tajikistan? 900000 is way too much. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 22:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  numbers 

message: Why should we add Pashto or Persian when Pamiri has a written script and when Pamiri is a Pamiri term. I added Persian Tajik because since the name of the article is not Tajik language but Persian Tajik.--Inuit18 (talk) 06:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pashto and Persian 

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Kuoofra (talk) 20:28, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ismailism  

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Tashkurgan and Yarkent
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Rajmaan (talk) 06:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pamiris in contemporary tajikistan 

message: In response to increased Tsarist Russian activity in Sarikol around 1900, the local Sarikoli begs and Sarikoli people feared that Russia was going to annex the region and take it away from China, fearing molestation at the hands of the Russians, they wanted to flee to Yarkand. They did not believe the official explanation that Russia was only concerned with the postal service in the area.
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Rajmaan (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-Russian sentiment among Sarikoli ([[Tajiks of Xinjiang]]) in 1900 

message: added this statement about Gojal and I subsequently removed it because it was not sourced. On my talk page, Saladin1987 then provided this and this in support of their edit.
The first of those links is the Gojal Educational and Cultural Association. As a general rule, we should avoid caste/tribal-affiliated websites, as this one certainly is, because they are only reliable for statements about themselves, not the people whom they claim to represent. Even how they define a region, such as Pamir, is often subjective.
The second link is a report of the activities of the aforementioned Association and, perhaps not surprisingly, seems to use stuff from the Association's website without even acknowledging the source. The strapline is "Pamir Times - Voices of Mountain Communities.". I've no idea whether it is reliable or not but I think it would be far more useful if you found an less populist source, such as something from academia. - Sitush (talk) 05:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: How useful would this be? - Sitush (talk) 06:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

text: That wasn't my question. And even if acceptable as a source, it is not quite a straightforward as you suggest because the Gojal thing is almost as an enclave. I'd be surprised if there weren't some Pamiri people in, say, London but we wouldn't mention it in the manner that you propose. At best, there is a significant cluster in Gojal, just as there is a significant cluster of Jewish people in Manchester. - Sitush (talk) 06:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

text: I might have an issue with it. That's why if you are in doubt - as clearly you are - then you should discuss first. I'm not going to pander to Pakistani POV pushing or, indeed, any other sort. I asked a question and neither you nor anyone else has yet responded. There was a reason for asking it: the author's credentials are not the greatest I've ever seen. What you have done is produced a lot of claims about population etc that are not sourced and also a contradictory argument relating to homelands and ethnic groups. - Sitush (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Localities 

message: People of Hunza and Kalash are the Pamir people, as well as the Pamirs, living in Xinjiang District of China. All of them, as well as the Pamirs, living in Tajik and Afgan Badakhshan profess the same religion - Ismailism! Finally, compare the numerous pictures of people of Hunza, Kalash, Xinjiang and Badakhshan's Pamirs, is the same person that speaks of the same people!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.9.137.125 (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunza and Kalash are the Pamir people 

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