Talk:Jörð

message: Ok this isn't all that relevant and probably shouldn't go in the article but I thought it was mildly interesting. Thor is a character in Marvel comics. In the comics his mother Jord is revealed to be an alias of Gaea the greek goddess of the earth (mother of the titans, grandmother of Zeus and his siblings etc). --Ksofen66613:15 19 January 2007.
:It could be mildly interesting, but it is trivia and pseudo-scientifical. If this is added to the article in the state it is now, people could misunderstand and believe this to be fact. –Holt  T•C 14:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Jord from Marvel comics

message: Not everybody would be aware that the letter ð is pronounced as a 'th' or 'eth' and the inclusion on the page that it can be anglicised as just plain Jord, might lead people to believe that the ð is just some sort of fancy old fashioned d and not realise that this is closer to 'Jörth' in pronunciation, rather than Jord as suggested by the aforementioned anglicised version. Not quite sure about the ö, since that can do different things depending on the language and time, but perhaps someone else who does know more about this could comment and put something in the article.Number36 01:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I added an IPA guide, so people can look up the sounds for themselves. Explaning the pronunciation with English examples would be too difficult. –Holt  T•C 14:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ð

message: The paragraph on Fjörgynn (Frigg's father) has nothing to do with Jord, so I moved it to the entry for Frigg.  The statement that Jord can be considered the mother of Meili "by extension" of the fact that Fjorgyn is identified as Thor's mother in Hárbarðsljóð seems downright weird; more importantly, it is not supported by any citation to source texts or scholarship, so I have deleted it.  Similarly, the assertion that "[s]ome think she may simply have been an alias of Odin's wife" is unsupported, and has been deleted.  If anyone knows of any serious scholarship or primary texts that support any of these points, feel free to reinstate them with documentation.Rsradford (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to have been readded by an anonymous contributor... (200.100.174.39, ) I do not know enough about this to state anything firmly, but I can recall vague memories of reading of Fjörgynn and Fjörgyn being some sort of fertility pair, or something like that. Lord, where are my books when I need them! I might check into this later. At least, those paragraphs ought not to be there, I removed them. –Holt  T•C 14:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created Fjörgyn and Fjörgynn in an attempt to clarify the confusion here. :bloodofox: (talk) 15:51, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fjörgynn

message: which language is the pron. supposed to be? kwami (talk) 07:57, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Old Norse. Haukur (talk) 08:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. It was coded as English. kwami (talk) 10:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA 

message: Is it not misleading and anachronistic to link the word "earth" to the Wikipedia article on "Earth"? The view at the time would have been quite different from what that article describes. 
Norse mythology, and no doubt most of humanity, probably had a very different view a thousand years ago of what Earth might be from what we think today. It's only since the 1960s when space travel began that we even knew the planet was blue. It's only since the 19th century that the Roman Catholic Church has acknowledged the world is not flat.
So I've removed the link and the word's capital "E". What is really needed is some scholarly knowledge about how earth was conceived at the time. Even just 500 years ago, Shakespeare used the word "earth" to mean land or country. (As in "This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.") Perhaps that is something like what was also meant in Norse mythology. Adrian Robson (talk) 18:30, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a good point, and I've corrected the internal link to simply go to soil, which is much closer semantically to what was meant at the time. :bloodofox: (talk) 18:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, ON jǫrð translated as 'earth' in the sense of 'land, soil', not the planet. Alcaios (talk) 18:31, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading to link to Earth article 

message: The son of Odin and Jörð, Meili, is in the often omitted list of sons of Odin in the Prose Edda. But the difference between him and the other random names in that list is that he's actually mentioned by Thor in the Poetic Edda when he "declared that even if he were an Outlaw, he'd reveal his homeland, for he is the son of Odin, the brother of Meili, and the father of Magni." He doesn't mention his other brothers, which likely implies he shares the same mother as him. 2603:6011:F83F:5015:D018:5C67:C58:3475 (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This possibility is mentioned in this article's notes. However, as our Meili article outlines, Meili's mother is not attested. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and added a bit more information about the matter to this article. Thanks for bringing it up. :bloodofox: (talk) 01:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meili