Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U2/Archive 1

message: A big thank you to Smith Cool for setting up the project.
: thanks for the thanks smithcool 19:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thanks

message: I added 'assessment' to the project banner but haven't added any criteria to it yet. That's OK, I can develop something on the weekend end. THere's probably not that many articles to include. Merbabu 21:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks i was trying to find a person to set that up, i thought we can then nominate people to run it and swap every month or so. i also would like people to help with the newsletter, i have a quick draft written up and i was going to release it on july 1st but if anybody has contributions to it i can hold it back a few days/weeks. if anybody would like to take full charge of the newsletter, just say so in the outreach department where it is based. i would also like peole to help set up a Collaboration of the Month Department and a Portal but there is no rush until everything else is done. smithcool 19:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: Some though should given to scope. Obviously, the MLK (song) article is within the scope of the project, as is Bono, but what about Dublin? I think Dublin is not really within the project scope, but maybe I have got this wrong. What do others think?Merbabu 21:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats definitely a toughie, but I would have to say, at this time, no.  Yes Dublin is important because that is where the band gre up, but we could make the same arguments for the British cities where Adam and Edge were born.  Before we come to a consensus on this though, we should probably check out some of the other Wikiprojects for bands - I'm sure that we'll be able to know what to do from their examples. MelicansMatkin 11:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont think dublin is that important, u2 aren't that big over here as they were and i only wrote the scope really quick the day i made this so change it as you please smithcool 19:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd have to agree. I think that, for the moment, we should just concentrate on articles that are directly related to U2. 
--Joelster 02:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope

message: There are a couple of U2 tribute album pages on Wikipedia - Pride: The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Plays U2, and With or Without You (Kane Album) come to mind.  Should these tribute albums be a part of the WikiProject?  If they are, I'd suggest that they be marked as Low importance. MelicansMatkin 16:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont think they should be part of it because they are not recorded by the band u2, this project is for u2. but many may argue that it is still their music even if they did play on that album. smithcool 18:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tribute Albums

message: Someone messed up the page - I fixed it. Make sure to add "|}" at the end of each section. Kamryn Matika 17:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting 

message: Hello everyone, I'm Neranei. I am a huge U2 fan, and am working on amassing U2 albums, etc. If you need anything, especially boring menial labor to be done, you can comment on my talk page. Hope I can help this project, I noticed there wasn't one, and was actually intending to start one in a bit, congrats for getting it done! Cheers, Neranei 23:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help offered 

message: i have changed the colour scheme to the HTDAAB colour scheme. let me know what you think and if i will change it back or not. i like it apart from the blue links. if we can change the colours of the links please tell me how. Smithcool 13:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I offer my opinion? I like the idea, but it is a bit painful on the eyes. Personally, I liked the colors before. Neranei 13:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i have changed it again to a better colour scheme but staying to the HTDAAB colours. if anybody knows how to change the links from blue to another colour please tell me because they are very unclear. Smithcool 17:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Honestly, I don't see why a color scheme should be used.  Everyone is going to have a different opinions as to what is good and what is bad, so I say avoid colors altogether.  I looked at the WikiProject pages for a lot of other bands, and they don't implement any colors at all.  According to WP:STYLE, markup should be kept simple because it will appear different on many browsers and screen resolutions, and using various colors may make the page difficult to read for colorblind users. –Dream out loud (talk) 17:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Personally, I think it's great, but Dream out Loud's probably right about color-blind users. I had an idea the other day, we should have a Wikiproject U2 Barnstar. I made a graphic, which can be found . Does anyone know how to create a barnstar? Thanks so much, Neranei T/C 17:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text: what do people think of the page colours now???i think it still has the htdaab scheme but is mainly white. also a u2 wikiproject barnstar would be a great idea for people who contribute to the project or u2 page alot. great idea but the link doesnt work for the graphic Smithcool 22:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Um... I'm not sure how to link to the image, if anyone knows how to that's the file name. Thanks! Neranei T/C 17:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Personally, I think we should just keep the colour scheme simple. If you have a look at other projects, most of them have the simple blue Wikipedia background. --Joelster 02:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new colour scheme 

message: Hi my name's Joel and I'm a huge U2 fan. I've just signed up to be a part of this project, and even though I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, I hope I can be of some assistance.
--Joelster 21:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks alot for offering help. we need people for the newsletter if you would like that, it is really only typing since i have a template already, nothing too hard for somebody new. let me know if you are interested. Smithcool 22:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yep sure. Like I said, I'd be happy to help 
--Joelster 22:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Happy to Help 

message: sorry for my lack of effort this month on the project. i have been on holiday and im only back and i am very busy for the next few weeks. i hope you all understand. i also started a portal last month but there has been no progress on that so far. i dont think there will be a newsletter this month but if anybody can put anything together for it i would be very happy. i already have a template so only typing is needed. thanks. Smithcool 22:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sorry!!! 

message: In regard to the message you sent me, I'd be more than happy to contribute to the newsletter, but I don't think it'd be possible to do one before the end of the month. So like you suggested, we can just start on August if you like. Let me know what you think anyway.
--Joelster 22:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  U2 Project Newsletter 

message: Hello, I noticed in the newsletter that you needed help with the Collaboration of the Month. I'd be willing to help in any way you'd like; let me know! Thanks, Neranei T/C 03:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: me and another member where talking about it and decided to have it every 2 weeks not every month. but we have nothing done so if you want to do it you will have to set it all up. thanks for your interest. Smithcool 13:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok, well, I am not quite sure how to do it, but I will ask around. I am a bit preoccupied with a Mediation Cabal case, but will get to the Collaboration soon. I would definitely like to help the project; I should become a bit more involved. Thanks again for your work! Cheers, Neranei T/C 15:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Update: I've spoken to some people, and am awaiting their reply, so I should be able to get this up and running within a week or two.  Please don't hesitate to contact me if there is anything specific that you would like me to do. Thanks! Cheers, Neranei T/C 17:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration of the Month 

message: The august newsletter is under construction at the moment and will be released by the end of the month. is anybody here really good at editing and can tell the editors of the newsletter how to do more than one colour in the header of the newsletter. if anybody does please contact me. Smithcool 14:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  august newsletter 

message: i was thinking about archiving this talk page. if anybody thinks i should please let me know. Smithcool 14:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  archives 

message: Since this project was started on 19th june it has gone a long way. But the project has 36 members and only a handful are in deparments. we still need people to run the outreach department and the portal also a peer review department may be set up if more people volenteered for them. joelster and i are writting the newsletters but we need people in the outreach department to released it and make sure there are no mistakes. if 2 people did the outreach department it would save me so much effort but would be little effort for the people in the department. also the portal was mentioned in the first newsletter and every newsletter since. we need people to set it up and run it. i already have a template on it, it just has to be filled in and maintained. i hope after reading this you will all consider helping in departments. the more people who imput into the project the better it is. after all my giving out i would like to thank everybody who asked me to join a department or just went for it themselves. Smithcool 19:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: I tried to let Smithcool know, but I did get your messages about the Barnstar. I know it needs to have some elements of black and red in it. So what is the general idea of what you wish for me to do? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project barnstar 

message: I listed to "Slow Dancing" recently for the first time in a while.  I recalled how it was first played on the Lovetown Tour, but wasn't actually recorded until the time of the Zooropa album.  That got me to thinking.  There are a lot of U2 songs that have their own history, but not enough to warrant their own article.  Particularily songs like Slow Dancing or Holy Joe, which have only been released as a B-side to a single.  So I want to propose that we add information on songs which have only been released as B-sides before to their respective singles.  This can help to expand many of the singles articles that haven't been extensively worked on yet from being stubs (or extensive details on their position in every sales chart in the world) to proper articles, as well as giving information on songs that otherwise would be excluded from Wikipedia.  Thoughts?  MelicansMatkin 02:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. That's a good idea. Of course, I would be willing to help, but others may see it a bit too fancrufty. What do you think? Neranei (talk) 01:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I obviously want to do it (other wise I wouldn't have suggested it!), but I do want to know what other Wikiproject members think before I start on Slow Dancing.  I just see it as a way to include information on songs that would otherwise be ignored.  I'm not proposing a seperate article, just a little more information on the B-Sides.  If anyone would like, I'll create a list of all the songs that were B-side only releases.  I can think of Slow Dancing, Holy Joe, Lady With the Spinning Head, and Are You Gonna Wait Forever off of the top of my head, and I'm positive that there are more that copuld be included, especially from the '80s. MelicansMatkin 02:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am definitely a proponent of the idea, but I am just a bit worried that others may see it as too fancrufty. That's the only concert I see. Neranei (talk) 02:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no objections have been made, I'll go ahead and start work on Slow Dancing. MelicansMatkin 19:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want help, I'd be happy to help. Neranei (talk) 22:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a page on U2 b-sides is a great idea. I can contribute as you go with some references. Just a warning - I know I am a pain - but I will be hard on unreferenced content. On the other hand, if someone writes something and I know I have a reference for it, I will put it in.--Merbabu 01:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will be pleased to help; Merbabu, I'm really bad with inline citations, sorry. And, perhaps it'll be good enough for DYK? Neranei (talk) 01:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the release of Slow Dancing occuring four years after it was first played could fit in.  And yeah, I know that references will definitely be needed for most of the B-sides since they are barely known.  It's why I made sure to put so many in for the Slow Dancing section on Stay (Faraway, So Close!).  MelicansMatkin 01:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding song information to single-only releases 

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replies: text: I may not be able to do much, but I will help where I can.  At the moment I'm focusing on the "List of..." mentioned above, but when I've got that made into an article I will be only too happy to help out in any way I can. MelicansMatkin (talk) 02:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[PopMart Tour]] project 

message: Hi, just wanted to draw your attention to a merge I have just proposed, to be discussed here, concerning merging How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (Assembly Edition) into How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. As U2 seems to be a topic with a number of dedicated editors, I will leave you to decide what is best to be done about this yourselves. J Milburn (talk) 19:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a complete hoax, along with Blindness (U2 Album).  I have tagged the ladder for speedy deletion, and the other article with an AFD. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: I just did a copy edit of the Gloria (song) article and it go me thinking about leads. According to WP:LEAD, the lead is essentially a summary of the main article that can stand alone on itself as a kind of mini article. It should capture the essence or most vital points of an article. Being a summary, there should be nothing in the lead that is not in the main article. And, its size should of course be commensurate with the size of the article - no point rehashing the whole article again, on the other hand a long article should not have a 2 sentence lead, but 2 or even 3 paragraphs. 
It's not something the project is going to be able to fix overnight, but is something to think about as you edit articles. I will make an effort to copy edit a few more articles and see what I can do on leads. happy editing all. --Merbabu (talk) 06:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leads... 

message: If there aren't any objections; I'll make a WikiProject userbox. THE KC (talk) 03:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have an objection, but I thought there was already a userbox, . Or do you mean an alternate userbox? MelicansMatkin (talk) 04:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  UBX 

message: Just a note that your project logo, could be seen a little politicised. Does the use of the tricolor add anything of value to the project? Half of the band actually hail from England, not Ireland and would've thought the project would want to dispell the whole overtly Irish image. It's no skin off my nose, and don't want to get into a fight about it (by any means!) but just thought I'd raise that point. -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats a vaild point I guess. Does anyone else have an opinion? Joelster (talk) 02:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Even though have the band was born in England, U2 still considers themselves to be Irish.  They all grew up in Ireland, and Bono even said at Live Aid, "We're an Irish band... we come from Dublin City, Ireland."  I don't think it's an issue. –Dream out loud (talk) 02:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bono also refers to himself as an "Irish rockstar." If you saw American Idol Gives Back, you know what I mean. I have no prob with it. THE KC (talk) 01:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

text: A white flag  might 'tear down the walls that hold [us] inside', so to speak ;) Joelster (talk) 06:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project logo 

message: I've been working on U2 3D since I first heard about the film, and pretty soon, I think the article can earn its well-deserved good article status.  It's not quite ready yet, as there are still a few things that have yet to be included.  The editing section needs to be expanded some, the reception section needs some critical reviews, and the setlist needs some sort of synopsis.  Of course, if I can get some help with all this, we can get it done much faster and I'd definitely appreciate it.  I created a to-do list on the article's talk page, so check that out, and let me know if you'd like to help out or have any questions. –Dream out loud (talk) 16:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[U2 3D]] almost ready for a GA nom 

message: I've been working on this page for a while now and i'm wondering who directed all these music videoes. --U2 is alternative rock (talk) 11:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  U2 discography 

message: I recently nominated U2 3D to be promote to good article status.  As of now, a GA review has yet to begin, however one can be started by clicking the link on Talk:U2 3D.  Please help this article to get to GA status, so it can one day become a featured article, along with U2. –Dream out loud (talk) 02:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  U2 3D has been nominated for GA-status 

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thread_title: Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

message: Had a question about adding Experimental music to the U2 article's infobox Genre section. Feedback would be welcome!  Thanks.  Dreadstar † 22:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Expermiental music genre

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message: As many/most of you probably know, No Line on the Horizon has been a featured article candidate for some time now. I'm not sure when it will be concluded, but I will be moving into a new apartment come 3 September and will not have any internet access for a short time after that. If any concerns are raised during that time period, would one of you be able to address them for me? Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 00:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''No Line on the Horizon'' FAC 

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