Talk:List of Barbie's friends and family

message: Why did Stacey, P.J., et al. get deleted? And where did this deluge of book and video characters come from? Shouldn't the priority be the DOLLS, rather than every character mentioned in every book or video with the Barbie logo on it? We have to draw the line somewhere, and it seems absurd to me that Stacey is gone, but some nitwit named "Charli-Bell" has been added. Someone's run amok...
Morinth (talk) 05:54, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where did all the older doll characters go? 

message: I know that's not correct, so I'm removing it. Tikallover 02:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the 1 Modern Circle line of collector's dolls - Melody was described as being Ken's "best friend." -- Lampbane 19:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sam as a boyfriend? 

message: Cleaned up the links so they linked to the correct Barbie pages instead of merely to the names  -Pnkrockr 21:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: In the short time I've been watching this page, I've noticed there seems to be a problem keeping track of the various doll characters and verifying that they really existed.  I have a suggestion. Perhaps we can cite a source wherever possible (books and websites and so on), and also provide info on what particular line the doll was part of when first introduced, particularly for one-off character names. If we know that a character was part of such-and-such a pink box series or whatever, then it's easier to verify that there was such a doll in 19xx or 200x. Karen | Talk | contribs 19:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most listings such as this that I've seen (in price guide books, etc.) simply post a picture of the doll in question (often just a face shot) next to their name. Is this something that could be reasonably accomplished here?206.58.228.99 18:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe I'm missing something—but doesn't a topic like this somewhat trivialize WP as a source of substantial information? Compiling retroactive surnames for a line of dolls conceived of and (famously) marketed with first names only? Under what circumstances could this be considered "useful"? – AndyFielding (talk) 11:28, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Making the info more verifiable and useful

message: I know that Shelly is what they call Kelly overseas, but I'm not sure that she belongs on THIS particular list. While Marina is a foreign name used for our domestic Kira, an "Ocean Friends Marina" Doll was actually sold here in the States, making her a viable addition. 
But if we include "Shelly", wouldn't we have to include EVERYBODY that Barbie has ever known, worldwide (names like Valerie, Bobby, and Viky spring to mind), including variations? Just asking...206.58.228.197 19:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family member "Shelly"..? 

message: It should be noted that whether or not someone "likes" an idea is irrelevant. If people "like" the idea of Stacie and Tutti being the same character, that's fine, but it doesn't make them the same character. STOP THINKING OF THESE CHARACTERS AS REAL PEOPLE, THEY'RE DOLLS. Get a grip. Morinth (talk) 03:01, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose that makes sense, but Stacie was very different looking from Tutti. Maybe someone who is more of an expert than I am can weigh in on this, because I have a definite pro-Tutti bias. Karen | Talk | contribs 18:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I tend to agree.  I basically think of Stacie as Tutti simply renamed, with Todd serving as the proof of this.  Both incarnations of Todd (the child) are said to have a "twin" sister, and since one can surmise that no family would name two sons "Todd", we can reasonably assume there is only one Todd, with only one twin sister.  Of course, Mattel doesn't appear to make a concerted effort to keep their characters "canon", probably assuming that 20+ years between a name change in the "play" line will go largely unnoticed, since the average child's time-frame for playing with Barbies is most likely expected to last somewhere between 5–10 years.  Only die-hard collectors familiar with the history of Barbie over the last 50+ years will even notice these things.  My guess is someone at Mattel probably decided "Tutti" sounded outdated and the decision was made to rename Tutti to a name that sounded more contemporary (for the time) without giving a second thought to any confusion that it might cause for those threading together an official "biography" for Barbie. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tutti/Stacie 

message: I had noticed that on the main Barbie doll page there was no mention of how head molds developed for Barbie are sometimes used for her friends, head molds developed for Barbie's friends are sometimes used for Barbie herself, and sometimes more than one of Barbie's friends will use the same head mold. Also, there was no mention of how names often get reused, sometimes in ways that make it difficult to determine whether they reference the same character.
Given that the reuse of names is causing confusion on this page, I thought it might be helpful to add that information here in a short opening paragraph, and explain that some identities have been muddled over the years.
If any information about reusing head molds is added, I think that an external link should be provided to the website Katti's Dolls, but that a comprehensive list of head molds should NOT be added. IMO, a comprehensive list of head molds used in the Barbie doll line is outside the scope of this encyclopedia.
On a page that is principally a list, is such an explanatary opening paragraph forbidden or discouraged? And if not, what does everyone think about its merits and drawbacks?  Personally, I hesitate to add such an opening paragraph without a go-ahead from an editor or a general consensus on the discussion page, but I do think it could add value. SirenDrake 00:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Paragraph 

message: I see I've missed quite a bit of vandalism/fixing of vandalism! Some people...
But now I have a question: How important are characters' last names, if they are known? It appears that during the clean-up, the "Fairchild" was removed from the "Francie", and the "Carson" was left off "Tommy", as well as a few other instances (mostly in Midge's Family). And The Heart Family was edited out altogether!
But all those "Generation Girl" surnames remain intact. Was this a conscious editorial decision? I'm kind of confused here...
Thanks in advance for any input/explanation that You can provide!
Take Care! 206.58.228.171 17:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last names 

message: Why is there no page for Teresa? She is one of Barbie's oldest (and most attractive) friends. Not to mention she offeres just as much interesting toppical information as does any one of her friends and family?
She's NOT EVEN mentioned in her friend's and family link.
Can we fix that?   (talk) 03:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teresa? 

message: I added two lists, which are both incomplete, but they're a good start. I added a list of Barbie-sized friends, and a list of celebrity and fictional character friends. My expertise is mainly from 1959-1989, so I'm not really up on the more recent friends and celebrity characters. I would appreciate it if someone knowledgeable about the more recent dolls would add those. Morinth (talk) 06:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to add some additional "celebrity" and "character" dolls.  I haven't added any of the Disney characters, mainly because many (such as Cinderella for example) have been released and re-released over and over again over the years, and it's a complicated task to track down the release dates for each of them.  I may see what I can do about adding the Disney characters, but, for now, I believe the "celebrity" and "character" dolls should be split into two groups and listed last.  In most cases, they're not technically part of the Barbie friends & family "universe", and I believe the various sub-lists should (loosely) follow the "Barbie family and principal characters" list.  The way it's listed now, listing the "celebrity" and "character" dolls right after Barbie's "friends" just takes the reader out of Barbie's immediate universe in the middle of the list.  I see this talk page doesn't appear to get a lot of traffic, but I'll make a little list below of the order I believe would make sense for the casual reader to follow.  If I don't see any objections within the next few weeks, then I'll go ahead take a look at what I can do to tidy things up. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added Barbie's friends, I was surprised to see them missing. 

message: The title adopts an in-universe view of the fictional "Barbie" character.  I propose the article be given a more factually descriptive title, such as "List of Barbie-brand characters".  This specific phrasing is somewhat awkward, so I encourage others to propose better alternatives, but my main point is that the article should have a more encyclopedic title than the present one. 138.16.32.85 (talk) 04:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested article name change 

message: Where is Kira, the only Asian Barbie?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.122.158.178 (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Kira

message: Hi I'm new here but love Barbie and I'm excited to contribute! I've been on Skipper's page and I was wondering how we should approach these templates on the page? I will try finding more citations to add but I don't believe I have the experience to remove it? SyndicatedDrake (talk) 16:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification Template?  

message: Hey how do you add friend is Barbie it takes two 2600:8801:1405:F400:48CD:D727:7563:2F5 (talk) 00:16, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick questions 

message: Barbie has a dog named tucker that should go in the family section but he's not there. 73.255.47.127 (talk) 13:49, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pets 

message: Weird Barbie from the live action movie has been released as a doll yesterday, but I have trouble knowing where on the page should I add her. I want to list her on the page because she recently became a doll character. Chidie345 (talk) 03:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird Barbie 

message: Obscure, random, and not relevant to the franchise as a whole, hardly appropriate for that section. Thoughts on deletion? YallAHalla☎ 07:36, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete Brooklyn Barbie from main characters 

message: I am a "Li'l Friends of Kelly" collector and I cannot seem to find any hint, that there was ever a Camdyn doll (or Dallin for that matter) produced. Does anyone know, if she exists? This could be an Easter egg, a fun little surprise to someone's Kelly-loving little sister..? 2A02:3038:6E0:5CBF:ECE3:1E43:3461:605C (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Camdyn really exist?