Template talk:Infobox WorldScouting

message: I'm not sure of the purpose of this infobox, but you might want to switch the image to "Scoutsgreengoldnoscroll.png". --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, Ed, and what I intend to do (though it doesn't yet look right) can be seen at Afghan Scout Association. Chris 01:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Thanks, brother, you've done a great job! Are you familiar with Piet Kroonenberg?  Chris 18:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wim!

message: I tried the template on AGESCI and the logo was rescaled badly. What can be done about it? --Lou Crazy 23:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't know that. I'll add a note in the comments. --Lou Crazy 01:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logos in the template 

message: Why don't we add the portal to the bottom of the box? --evrik (talk) 02:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Templates: Scouting Portal: Please put this on all article main pages in the See also section unless it uses the BSA box, which it includes it. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: What about if we were to put the actual portal box right inside the info box, so it would show up and would automatically be transcluded? Chris 19:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Portal

message: I think this should show Scouting in each type name instead of Scout.  Thus Scouting campsite, Scouting organization, etc. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scouting 

message: I just noticed that  has the coordinates actually in the infobox.  This makes it more obvious  what those numbers are for.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I got this.  See :Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/testcases for samples.  The updated template is in :Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/sandbox.  I put this under the location.  The only minor issue is the font size.  At the standard 95%, the coord break across a line; at 90% there is no break but the font is smaller than the rest.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: FYI- If you have a long image name the image will not show unless you replace the spaces with underscores.  For example, :Image:Boy Scouts of America 50-Miler Award Patch.jpg would not show until I changed it to image = Boy_Scouts_of_America_50-Miler_Award_Patch.jpg.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long image names 

message: A few ideas that might be nice:
*Included co-ordinates
*Website (see  for an example)
*Second image
--Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enhancements 

message: Would it be possible to have an option so as we don't see the default image? Or to remove the default image all together? It makes Scouting in Victoria very cluttered but I don't want to remove the infoboxes. :: maelgwn :: talk 06:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a change to that article. If you don't like it, just revert it. The infobox is designed for one use per article with the box directly referring to the subject of the article, not multiple uses per article. You can also use the option image-size option, see template's main page. Rlevse 10:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, didnt think of that. Thanks :: maelgwn :: talk 13:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Default Image 

message: Must it bear the name "Scouting organization"? The country infobox :Template:Infobox Country doesn't likewise say "Country" at the top, it goes right into the country's name in multiple languages. It's kind of distracting and looks weird on the main Scouting article. Could we instead have the top area be where the name of the organization is in its native language, and the English name below the emblem? Chris 04:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User:NThurston can code options like that, just like our project infobox.10:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not if the native name itself is in another script, or if we go to all-English names, as perennially comes up. Chris 18:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same style is also used at Template:Infobox Person. Layout error or not, it seems to be the more Wiki-acceptable way to have an infobox. Chris 18:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: wording at top

message: I added coordinates to a test version of the infobox at .  See :Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/testcases for samples.  The only minor issue is the font size; at the standard 95%, the coords break across a line.  The only way I see to do fix without making the font smaller is to make the infobox a bit wider.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Changing the infobox width from 18 to 19em resolves the line break on the coords; this would also give a bit more room for longer URLs on the website field.  The testcases shows 18 vs. 19em boxes.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a difference, in both boxes the coords break across a line. --Egel Reaction? 14:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Odd—I don't see that in either Firefox or IE7.  How about now, at 20em?  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coords 

message: I'm really thinking that it would be better if the image were blank by default.  Using the generic logo in an article instead of the organizational logo is not a good practice— it could be considered rather POV, and it becomes a decorative image rather than a useful image.  We should use the generic logo only for truly generic articles such as Scouting, Boy Scout, Cub Scout and the like.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Default image 

message: I would like to make a few changes:
*Add coordinates
*Increase the box width from 18em to 20em 22em so that the coordinates don't break across the line
*Remove the default image
The updated template is in the sandbox and examples are in testcases.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  15:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You got me on that.  I expanded the test to three digits on the degrees and found I had to expand the box width.  Thanks.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  15:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why rm the image? People can change it if they want, otherwise ok.  — Rlevse • Talk •  14:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the default image is being misused.  For example:  Ring deutscher Pfadfinderverbände is using the image by default; this implies that our generic logo is the official logo of that association.  There are many instances where this is happening.  It appears many editors don't realize this and don't suppress the image.  The generic image should be used only on generic articles.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  15:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having a generic might be better than being blank.  — Rlevse • Talk •  15:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. Ok.  — Rlevse • Talk •  15:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

text: But then it gets propagated downstream and folks think it is the official logo.  I think it might be a bit POV to use a logo that is not used by the association, and its use becomes merely decorative.  Another example:  both Klondike derby and Totin' Chip were using the generic logo until I removed it.‎  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  15:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Age Groups in Scouting and Guiding also uses it. Chris 21:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but it is not using the template.  It is a universal article.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  21:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I thought we were also discussing where it is used purely decoratively. Chris 01:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I see your point—there is no way to prevent the line break based on box width.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  23:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that many editors will just copy and paste form another article, or copy from the documentation heading without reading deeper.  To give another example:  Scouting in Andorra.  Look how long the template was in use before someone question how to supress the generic logo (see above).  Luckily we have a good graphics editor now, so the current version of Scouting in Andorra has a proper logo.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  23:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates 

message: Propose adding an optional affiliation field to indicate membership in a Scouting association such as WOSM or WAGGS.  Affiliation would be used only in main articles for the Scouting organization, not section articles.
Propose adding an optional defunct field to indicate the date an organization, campsite, award or event was discontinued.
Both fields are illustrated in Template:Infobox WorldScouting/testcases.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  18:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: fine with me.  — Rlevse • Talk •  20:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: support, that is a great idea. Chris (クリス) (talk) 21:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: These are simple extensions, so I am making them live. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  13:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: affiliation and defunct fields 

message: I ripped some code from another template and made a fix to the image-size parameter.  If it is included, but the value is left blank, it will no longer display the image name instead of the image.  Instead, it defaults to 140px.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  16:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  image-size 

message: I have a sandbox version of the infobox that uses ; see :Template:Infobox WorldScouting/sandbox for the new template and :Template:Infobox WorldScouting/testcases for comparisons. Some discussion on this at WT:SCOUT.
* Uses the  meta-template, making it more standard and easier for novices to update
* Uses the default box width to match other standard infoboxes
* The title at the top now has the green background
* The data line is no longer shown
* The website is now centered at the bottom to allow for a longer URL
* The old coordinates method is superseded by use of the  template, allowing more versatility of use
--—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  20:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update using meta-template 

message: I started a page for the Central Region (Boy Scouts of America) and wanted to use the chiefscout part of the template for more people than it would allow.  currently the venturing president and sea scout boatswain cannot be seen due to this.  Would it be possible to add chiefscout4 and chiefscout5? Stnfll (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Template and documentation updated. MacMedtalkstalk 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I just tried to use the chiefscouttitle4 and chiefscout4 parameters on Three Harbors Council, but it didn't appear, so I just put the co-presidents on the same line.  Has anyone had success with these parameters?  Also (related), the infobox doc parameters says you can use "chiefscouttitle1" (presumably instead of "chiefscouttitle"), but it's not actually in the code, so I removed it from the doc. Johnson487682 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also updated the doc a bit. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Works great now! Johnson487682 (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Chiefscout

message: I would like to add "" and "" to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_WorldScouting. This would allow for one more title to be correctly placed on the Scouts Canada page for the Executive Commissioner. I cannot add it myself due to . Munzo101 (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Template and documentation updated. MacMedtalkstalk 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I just tried to use the chiefscouttitle4 and chiefscout4 parameters on Three Harbors Council, but it didn't appear, so I just put the co-presidents on the same line.  Has anyone had success with these parameters?  Also (related), the infobox doc parameters says you can use "chiefscouttitle1" (presumably instead of "chiefscouttitle"), but it's not actually in the code, so I removed it from the doc. Johnson487682 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also updated the doc a bit. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Works great now! Johnson487682 (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Request

message: Hey, I posted this to WikiProject Scouting thinking it'd get seen quicker there because normally most infoboxes I've seen have little or no discussion on the talk page! I figure I should post it here since it does seem to get some use. What about adding a section for the organization's totem? I know most articles for OA lodges have it mentioned in the article so why not have it in the infobox? I also know at least the camp I went to had a different totem than the lodge so it is possible it could be used for camp articles too (the reason for the different totem was that the camp's original lodge was merged with a different lodge but the camp kept the totem of it's original lodge, I'm sure some other camps have done the same thing). So what do you guys think? Deflagro  C/T 02:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Totem 

message: Thanks Gadget! --evrik (talk) 20:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Images in Infobox

message: I'd like to add "Camp Size" to the infobox for when it's used with summer camps to show acreage.
| label13     = Camp size
| data13      = 
Thanks! Deflagro Contribs/Talk 15:37, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make your proposed change in the sandbox and generate testcases to show that it works. ~ RobTalk 16:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad! Updated sandbox and testcases. I did not see a sandbox documentation to update so I left that alone. Deflagro Contribs/Talk 16:23, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could you do a merge from the main template page and then make your change again? The version of the sandbox you edited was from August 2014, so if I copied it into the template, it would undo a few edits over the past two years. ~ RobTalk 16:36, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Should be updated now. Deflagro Contribs/Talk 16:41, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  ~ RobTalk 17:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 17 May 2016 

message: Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 September 7, uniform should be an automatic part of the WorldScouting template, like sports uniforms are for their teams. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge [[:template:Scouting uniform]] to [[:template:Infobox WorldScouting]] 

message: Can someone please make the "age" toggle work like the birth/age toggle on the biography infobox, so that it updates daily? I see a lot of users putting in arbitrary numbers that quickly go stale. Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , are you referring to  that accompanies "Age range"? It's unclear exactly what changes you are requesting. May you put your changes into Template:Infobox WorldScouting/sandbox and re-open the request here? Or, which other template are you referring to? — Andy W. (talk) 21:25, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , thank you for catching this! In Template:Infobox person, there is text in the "| birth_date         =" field, reading "". Not a coding guy, so I wouldn't know what I am doing at the sandbox. What I am asking is, put something like the YYYY|MM|DD requirement, with the internal text like "" Is that making sense?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:43, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Several things, I did not get a ping when you replied to yourself above, but I happened to see this :) Anyway, the page you want to edit (that is not protected) is at Template:Infobox WorldScouting/doc, which is transcluded into the main template. Considering how the page Boy Scouts of America uses , adding such a comment there does not seem appropriate. I've added it to the  and  params with Special:Diff/746394371. The template appropriate for these fields is . Notice how Boy Scouts of America has  for . This did not require a template change, just a documentation change. If you ever see anything in template documentation that needs changes, look for a "/doc" subpage. Hope this helps! — Andy W. (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  thanks for catching this, and @:^} Charlie Brown sheepish grin for pinging myself... I will be tagging the below request shortly.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  yeah, the page Boy Scouts of America, that is exactly what I am trying to do so that inexperienced users don't/can't force in a static age that will not update.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request:age 

message: Now that we have new hats and skintones at :commons:Category:Scouting uniform templates, can toggles like "skintone medium", "skintone dark", "overseas hat", "bush hat" and "bucket hat" be incorporated for use into the uniform section of the template? Thank you--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:52, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This looks like a request to update Template:Infobox WorldScouting/uniform, which is not protected. You are probably able to make the changes yourself. Please ping or re-open the request if there are issues. — Andy W. (talk) 18:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request:new hats and skintones at [[:commons:Category:Scouting uniform templates]] 

message: Was considering listing the host organisations in the infobox under governance, so, for example, the 24th would have
"|governance=BSA, Scouts Canada, ASMAC".
Thoughts? Bogger (talk) 10:27, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. Support--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Hosts of world jamborees

message: Request that the last edit be undone. There was no discussion about changing the established colors. A request for information has gone unanswered. --Eagleinflight (talk) 23:50, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - FlightTime (open channel) 23:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks --Eagleinflight (talk) 00:04, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last change

message: Worth changing this? Most articles with this infobox seem to use the first image as a regular photo, where the sizedefault=140px isn't ideal and sometimes gets overridden in the article. Further up this talk page there's a mention of someone having "ripped some code from another template" and taken the 140px, back in 2008, but is it better than the default infobox size, for these articles? Lord Belbury (talk) 18:18, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First image size 

message: Per above talk page section, remove |sizedefault=140px both times it appears, so that the infobox uses default image sizes rather than overriding to a smaller setting. Lord Belbury (talk) 10:53, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: * Pppery * it has begun... 12:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 20 August 2022