Talk:ABUS

message: The current UK distributor is actually:
http://www.phoenixnw.co.uk/abus  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.33.247 (talk) 20:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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message: ABUS can them become a disambiguation page as there are other uses of ABUS. eg Automated Breast Ultrasound System  - Rod57 (talk) 11:49, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that ABUS is the world's biggest manufacturer of padlocks and bicycle locks, it seems to far outstrip other uses of the name, to the extent that this could serve as the default article IMHO. – AndyFielding (talk) 12:13, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose move (rename) this page from ABUS to August Bremicker und Söhne KG 

message: This makes me think of adding something about their bike locks. Omysfysfybmm (talk) 02:00, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bike Locks 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: From Family Ownership section:
:The [ABUS-owning] family belongs to the evangelical exclusive wing of the Plymouth Brethren (Brüderbewegung), a church movement that originated in the 19th century. The family's religious orientation also affects the company, whose mission statement is shaped by the church's principles.
Until recently (see Jan. 2023 Archive.org record), this said (difference bolded):
:The family's religious orientation also affects the company. The company's self-portrayal refers to the fact that the company's mission statement is shaped by Christian principles. The equal participation of female family members in the company is rejected. There is therefore no woman among the KG shareholders. In order to exclude the succession of daughters, so-called inheritance waiver agreements have been concluded in the past.  
I've found references to this alleged policy elsewhere (including references to articles where similar details have been similarly, mysteriously expunged). I don't know if the allegation's true, but the Plymouth Brethren's website has this to say about its position regarding women (Bible citations omitted):
With regard to such matters as salvation or acceptance before God, woman is on an equality with man... This does not mean, however, that differences of sex are abolished in the church. When dealing with matters of everyday life, the Scriptures distinguish between male and female. Therefore, we may say that as far as her standing before God is concerned, woman is treated exactly the same as man; but that as far as her position in the church is concerned, a distinction is made. The distinction, in brief, is that woman should be in subjection to the man...</br>
Specifically, the following injunctions are laid down in the Word in order to define the various ways in which the subjection of the woman is to be manifested. She must remain silent in the church. What is meant by “remaining silent” is further explained. She is not permitted to teach. She should not ask questions publicly. She should learn in silence with all subjection. She must not usurp authority over the man.
Curiously, there's nothing about any of this here. If the assertion was unfounded, shouldn't there have been some discussion about its removal, or at least a note to deter it from being re-added?</br>
If ABUS does actually mandate the exclusion of women from its ownership and management (assuming that's still even legal in Germany), it seems like something consumers should be able to read about here, protected from vandalism. – 2001:569:50B1:6A00:F9E8:9817:968E:398D (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Methodical redaction?