Talk:David Sainsbury, Baron Sainsbury of Turville

message: I added the NPOV tag to the top of the article after reading the "Business Career" section.  I give some examples of serious problems here:
*"This was done because it was believed Sir Robert considered John Davan Sainsbury (who became Chairman in 1969 on Sir Robert Sainsbury's retirement) to have a forceful, autocratic style of leadership, whereas David was always more cautious." - Unsourced!  Hell, this whole section is unsourced.
*"On JD Sainsbury's retirement as Chairman and Chief Executive on 2 November 1992, David Sainsbury became Chairman, a move that was never officially discussed at a J Sainsbury plc board meeting." - Unsourced!  Unclear as to whether this is normal practise!  NPOV language!
*"The Sainsbury's management seemed to be blind when staff in stores started seeing customers defecting to Tesco due to a lack of innovation, arrogance and complacency, and blaming customers too often. This was not helped by the fact that JD had an autocratic style of leadership, and so compiled a management team full of "Yes Men" who were used to taking orders from JD. In contrast, even though his values and beliefs on Sainsbury's position in the marketplace were almost identical to those of JD's, David had a democratic style of leadership, and so with no senior management changes in 1993, JD's "Yes Men" were suddenly unguided on what they should do, even though Sainsbury's strategy remained broadly unchanged from that of JD's during David's reign." - NPOV!  "seemed to be blind" - Unencyclopaedic language!
*"...in both sales and profits. It went downhill from there." - Unencyclopaedic language!
Essentially this entire section acts to launch a personal attack John Davan S. and David S. - if it's not improved soon, I suggest it be deleted rather than allowed to remain in its current form. I don't know anything about this person (that's why I'm on this page), so I don't think I ought be the one to update it.  7daysahead (talk) 14:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV tag added: "Business Career" is unsourced, unencyclopaedic and very NPOV 

message: I've pruned a lot of what I thought were NPOV statement - although according to WP:BLP I should have just blanked the vast majority of the page.  This article has very, very few citations; I've left things which are relatively easily checked (e.g. share prices, corporate profits) on the assumption that they are easily checked and unlikely to be considered libellous - due to the unencyclopaedic tone of the original article, I expect that a lot of this might be WP:OR, with no good third-party sources.  If you can make even a minor improvement to this article, please do so. 7daysahead (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major pruning 

message: In fact, he started reading history but then got special permission to drop it and switch to another subject. As I understand it, though it could be said he read both subjects, history was no part of his degree.
There is quite a lot of useful information about Lord Sainsbury in his appearance on the BBC Radio 4 programme, "Desert Island Discs" (broadcast 2004 and still available online in October 2011): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/34dafa96
Paulmdt (talk) 09:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm.  Due to the vagaries of the Tripos, one doesn't recieve a "Degree in Psychology" from Cambridge University, but a "Bachelor of Arts".  If he read History for Part I and switched to Psychology for Part II then the article could be construed as being technically correct.  Moar detail? 7daysahead (talk) 17:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

text: (This looks vaguely relevant: http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/undergraduate/tripos-papers/choosing-tripos-papers).  From the Bristol page I would assume he took Part IA (or possibly Part I - I don't know the History Tripos structure) in History and then Part IB and Part II in Natural Sciences.  Since Part I and Part II from *any* courses can make a Cambridge degree, I'd opine that "History and Psychology" is a fair title.  7daysahead (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "He holds a BA degree in History and Psychology" - not correct 

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