Talk:Eric L. Haney

message: Why is this page being considered for deletion?
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:The article was put up for deletion by its author to make a point about other user activities.
:This is a violation of the Wikipedia WP:POINT policy ("Don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point") but we have to go through the motions on the deletion request.  Georgewilliamherbert 17:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The reference link is no longer valid.  A replacement should be located. 64.56.145.130 16:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch.  I have linked to the Internet Archive version of that story.  Georgewilliamherbert 21:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference Gone 

message: It seems all reference to the criticism of Haney by former US Army Special Operation members including, Lt. Col. Lewis "Bucky" Burruss, Logan Fitch, CSM Mel Wick, and CSM Dick Davis, has been removed, it should be put back.
: I made mention of it in the intro section; more detail should definitely be provided on the article page for Inside Delta Force'. Alcarillo 19:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: Someone needs to provide justification as to why Haney's comments warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia article. Please see WP:NOT#NEWS; the article is about the person, not his opinions regarding current events. Alcarillo 16:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haney on Iraq 

message: I understand that the source for much of the newer information regarding Haney's private sector work came from an interview with him. The unnecessary play-by-play notwithstanding, this still needs to be confirmed from another, independently-verifiable source(s). Haney is a primary source and as such, not sufficiently reliable. See WP:No original research.
Moreover, presenting unspecified information like "CEO of the largest corporation in Mexico" or "Middle Eastern countries" strains the credibility of the article. It's pretty easy to find out what the "largest corporation in Mexico" is -- why isn't that information included? And, that would still need to be verified.  Alcarillo (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: I simply want to express my admiration and gratitude to CSM Eric Haney for his extraordinary courage and service to our country.  My father was a Marine officer, wounded at Guadalcanal.  I have a daughter in the Navy and another daughter in the Army.  I am a college professor, have taught some history and am old enough to have lived some of it.  I am thankful for, and honored and humbled by, all who have volunteered to serve and defend our country in the military.  I obviously am most proud of my father and my daughters, but it would an incredible honor to shake CSM Haney's hand.    March 14, 2018  Mike O'Reilley  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:400:D9FF:59A4:4256:AE4D:CEAC (talk) 19:41, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  typical wikipedia confusion about sources.  The autobiography is a secondary source.  His DD-214 and paperwork regarding CSM status are primary sources.  wikipedia has turned the meaning of "encyclopedia" on its head.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.111 (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Is there a confirmation process involved when someone is promoted to CSM? I wonder whether Haney was informed of his promotion, but left 1SFOD-D pending a formal confirmation/investiture. Alcarillo (talk) 16:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  CSM 

message: Does anyone know if this guy served in Vietnam?  He is right in that age group, and he had joined the infantry by that time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.94.199.9 (talk) 14:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing in his book says he served in Vietnam; only that he enlisted in the spring of 1970, and entered the Army after graduation that June. Later Haney served in the 1st Ranger Battalion (not exactly sure when) which was formally reactivated in 1974. I don't know whether he served in any of the Ranger companies that were sent to Vietnam up until 1972. Alcarillo (talk) 16:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My read of it was that he didn't go to Vietnam, but continued with his advanced training while the US military presence was undergoing a drawdown in SE Asia. Not every enlistee in the early 70s -- or even during the height of the war -- when to Vietnam. Alcarillo (talk) 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NAM 

message: It has listed, that he was a veteran of the Panamanian Conflict but there is no reference to that on the site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.180.182.145 (talk) 10:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panama 

message: Haney is no longer attached to the Unit television show. He retains his "based on" writer credit, and has been given a technical advisor title in place of the producer credit.  He is in fact no longer with the show, and two consultants have been brought in to take his place. Unfortunately I can't find any mention of this in a basic Google search, but the credits part can be verified by watching the show.--HappyMaam (talk) 12:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recently 

message: I removed the "Members of the US Army Special Forces Category" link at the bottom of the page. 
Haney was a member of SFOD-D, which is an abbreviation for "Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta," but Delta is not a part of the US Army Special Forces Command, belonging, rather, to JSOC. Strictly speaking, Delta is a special operations unit, not a US Army Special Forces unit. There is a difference. 
Further, Haney is not a graduate of the Special Forces "Q Course," and was never awarded the Green Beret. Serving in a Ranger unit does not qualify him for inclusion in the "Special Forces" category, as Rangers also do not belong to the Special Forces Command. 
Haney could be included in other categories, like US Army soldiers, but linking his page to the category for US Army Special Forces soldiers is an error. 
A distinction needs to be made between using the term "Special Forces" as a generic catch-all for special operations units, and using the term as it should be used, as a reference to the US Army Special Forces, which has its own command under US Army SOCOM, and its own 18-series career Military Occupational Specialties (MOS). 
While some members of Delta are former members of Special Forces units, and retain 18-series MOS's while they serve within the unit, others come from Ranger units and retain 11-series MOS's. Haney was one of the latter. 
Estéban (talk) 07:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Haney was not a member of US Army Special Forces