Talk:Stephen Gately

message: "David Tennant's Facebook page published a message asking outraged readers to report the Daily Mail to the Press Complaints Commission. [87]"
The citation for this statement links straight to a Facebook fan page, which I wouldn't consider to be a reliable source. Also, the only notable thing about this (that DT also 'made a statement' on the scandal) is misrepresentative, as the source clearly states that it is not run by DT and does not represent his opinions. Although not a member (yet), I'd recommend this be deleted by a moderator.
Wouldn't it be better to focus on this in the Jan Moir article? Firstly repeating it in two places means we have the difficulty of maintaining duplicates in two articles - we should pick on "main" article. Secondly I'd argue that her article is more appropriate, as this is primarily about her article, rather than about Stephen Gately directly. Mdwh (talk) 23:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is at this stage nearly enough information to begin  Death of Stephen Gately ... but perhaps that would be controversial? It would certainly be another option to keep all this together and there have been lots of effects and cancellations, etc... --candle•wicke 00:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The direct result of creating a Death of Stephen Gately article would be to give more coverage to the ugly and unfounded smears.  As someone mentions elsewhere on this page, that's more notable to their own shame at their own articles (for any truly notable enough to warrant their own articles, which I suspect many would not be) than it should be to use Gately to shame them at his own, and in the process be complicit in giving their trash both a broader audience, increased hits via the links, and an eternal connection to Gately's life and how he is remembered in this way.  Not unlike rumors during a person's life, rumors surrounding their death are irrelevant.  Abrazame (talk) 00:56, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jan Moir & David Tennant

message: The article mentions nothing about his life prior to 1993. It is missing basic biographical info such as religion, parents, siblings, education. Gayness 1 (talk) 11:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done now. --candle•wicke 21:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family and early life 

message: Is the comment about his Twitter update in the Death section really significant at all? Seems pointless to me. 86.154.209.24 (talk) 17:38, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I take the initial writer's point, but agree with TVC 15 that until an autopsy confirms the cause of death as accidental/congenital, it goes to establishing his state of mind: he was gearing up for a tour, writing music for his band's album, working out, and looked forward to spending some of his time in Majorca finishing this three-year project of writing.  Abrazame (talk) 22:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This report Daily Mail says he choked on his vomit after a drinking session.  Should it be added to the article? 81.156.175.199 (talk) 08:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We should wait until a more formal, official report, which is due Wednesday morning.  That link doesn't make it clear who thinks what and why.  Policies on recentism suggest we needn't jump the gun with unofficial breaking news-speculation about something so important as the cause of a person's death when just over a day's wait will likely bring a definitive statement.  Abrazame (talk) 08:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary 

message: Current Sentence: "A post-mortem and toxicology tests took place on 13 October and this examination showed that Gately died of natural causes due to a pulmonary oedema.[23][39]"  
The BBC report that toxicology results are due later so whilst they are not complete the post-mortem shows Gately died of natural causes due to a pulmonary oedema but the toxicology are yet to be released.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ouchiko (talk • contribs) 12:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicology reports 

message: Pajamas is spelled wrong on in the Death part.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.12.241 (talk) 01:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Pyjamas is the way the word is spelled in the UK.  Abrazame (talk) 01:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions of errata

message: The philanthropy section doesn't contain any reference to Stephen's work as an ambassador for the Caudwell childrens charity or his families request that donations be made to this in lieu of flowers. I can't edit this article but if someone else could update I would appreciate it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallylalala (talk • contribs) 19:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a brief mention in the death reaction section but I have expanded it further now under this section. --candle•wicke 20:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropy 

message: Would someone like to check if the article is still start class? It has undergone development. --candle•wicke 21:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think B Class would be more fitting. If you compare then and now...   Cargoking  talk  07:43, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well. I will move it to B unless nobody objects. --candle•wicke 17:35, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to step back from some of these tabloid elements to the bio; it's inappropriate and the article is never going to make A-class or GA status with some of this stuff in it.  This isn't a compendium of any story that ever included the guy's name, it's a bio of what made him notable encyclopedically.  That would be his career during and after Boyzone, some material relevant to being the first boybander to admit being gay, some info on the impact of his life and death on fans and the industry, and some biographical content.  Biographical content means who he was and what he did, and not whether AM radio made a joke here and there at his expense.  Abrazame (talk) 04:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Start class? 

message: change - 
FROM: "Gately's bandmates flew out to Majorca on 11 October 2009.[44][54] Louis Walsh is expected to join them soon." 
TO: "Gately's bandmates flew to Majorca on 11 October 2009[44][54]; Walsh was expected to join them soon."
1st sentence - remove "out" - unneeded.
2nd sentence - remove "louis" (walsh has already been introduced earlier in article).  change "is" to "was" (he either flew by now (october 27) or never did). 
combine the 2 sentences with semicolon. 
in reality, whole sentence(s) probably needs recasting (with a fresher source).
thanks.  --98.113.187.11 (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit request 

message: In the death section, it says that Georgi Dochev was a "friend of theirs," where as a Sunday Mirror source direct form Dochev clearly shows that he met them that evening. Request removal of friend - Rgds, --81.154.32.41 (talk) 17:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Quoting the same article Dochev himself uses the word friend: "But it was impossible to give him first aid. His body was stiff and his jaw was rigid. I told the woman on the phone that we had been out for the night and my friend wouldn't wake up." Use of the term is subjective and one can imagine meeting someone new and becoming friends the same evening. Consequently I do not see a need to make a correction based on this source.—Ash (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sources disagree as to whether Gately and Cowles first met Dochev on the night of 9 Oct 2009, or whether they already knew Dochev. I think the article should not say he was a friend unless it is established that he knew them prior to the night they were in the nightclub together. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 15:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As you see in this thread, the answer already is, and remains, that there is no prerequisite for friendship.  The appellation friend can be appropriate whether people have been acquainted for a day or a week or a month or a year.  The subject died and it's not relevant or appropriately weighted to a bio this brief who his house guest was.  Abrazame (talk) 05:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request - removal of friend 

message: The death section is too long and too detailed. It wasn't some murder mystery, he died of natural causes. Drcwright (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death section 

message: The wikipedia article directly quotes the following lines from Jan Moir's article: "Gately came out as gay in 1999 after discovering that someone was planning to sell a story revealing his sexuality to a newspaper. Although he was effectively smoked out of the closet, he has been hailed as a champion of gay rights, albeit a reluctant one." I would think this should be rewritten (perhaps using an earlier source) or at least have an in-text attribution.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.249.175 (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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message: Why are the UK chart positions in the discography but not the Irish chart positions? I mean he is Irish. Mobile mundo (talk) 19:45, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: Does anyone have a source for the claim in the, uh, whatever you call it, the profile box in the top right-hand corner of the page, that Stephen Gately and Andrew Cowles divorced between their commitment ceremony and their civil partnership? 92.18.214.182 (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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thread_title:  "Divorced"?