Talk:Illusory correlation

message: I'm intrigued that this article is listed as a Philosophy stub and within the scope of the Philosophy wikiproject. Illusory correlation is an empirical phenomenon, demonstrated in experimental psychology, that affects informal inferences about statistics or causality. I can't see where Philosophy comes into it. Anyone care to make the case? MartinPoulter (talk) 13:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why philosophy? 

message: Hi, I'm going to be editing this page over the next couple of months, and just wanted to let everyone know where i'm starting to look for new information. 
Denrell, J., & Le Mens, G. (2011). Seeking positive experiences can produce illusory correlations. Cognition, 119(3), 313-324. doi:10.1016/j.cognition.2011.01.007
This article discusses the formation of illusory correlations, and proposes a "halo" effect.  The article also discusses the history of how illusory correlations were thought to form, discusses the sample rule and correlations.
  
Eder, A. B., Fiedler, K., & Hamm-Eder, S. (2011). Illusory correlations revisited: The role of pseudocontingencies and working-memory capacity. The Quarterly Journal Of Experimental Psychology, 64(3), 517-532. doi:10.1080/17470218.2010.509917
This article talks about the limits of working memory on illusory correlations, and feedback effects.  They also go into pseudocontingencies.
Murphy, R. A., Schmeer, S., Vallée-Tourangeau, F., Mondragón, E., & Hilton, D. (2011). Making the illusory correlation effect appear and then disappear: The effects of increased learning. The Quarterly Journal Of Experimental Psychology, 64(1), 24-40. doi:10.1080/17470218.2010.493615
This article also discusses the formation of illusory correlations, more specifically the effects of increased training to detect these correlations on making them.  
Ratliff, K. A., & Nosek, B. A. (2010). Creating distinct implicit and explicit attitudes with an illusory correlation paradigm. Journal Of Experimental Social Psychology, 46(5), 721-728. doi:10.1016/j.jesp.2010.04.011
This article discusses the formation of illusory correlations, and the differences in the biases formed based on amount of positive/negative information presented about two groups.  
Kutzner, F., Vogel, T., Freytag, P., & Fiedler, K. (2011). A robust classic: Illusory correlations are maintained under extended operant learning. Experimental Psychology, 58(6), 443-453. doi:10.1027/1618-3169/a000112
This article discusses feedback effects on both positive and negative illusory correlations, and the use of a rewards system to deter illusory correlations.  
Sherman, J. W., Kruschke, J. K., Sherman, S. J., Percy, E. J., Petrocelli, J. V., & Conrey, F. R. (2009). Attentional processes in stereotype formation: A common model for category accentuation and illusory correlation. Journal Of Personality And Social Psychology, 96(2), 305-323.
According to the model, the features of majority groups are learned earlier than the features of minority groups. In turn, the features that become associated with a minority are those that most distinguish it from the majority. This second process is driven by an attention-shifting mechanism that directs attention toward group–attribute pairings that facilitate differentiation of the two groups and may lead to the formation of stronger minority stereotypes. - taken from abstract.  
Meiser, T., & Hewstone, M. (2006). Illusory and spurious correlations: Distinct phenomena or joint outcomes of exemplar-based category learning?. European Journal Of Social Psychology, 36(3), 315-336. doi:10.1002/ejsp.304
This study compared illusory and spurious correlations, finding that they are both affected by exemplar-based category learning the same way.  
Smith, M. R., & Alpert, G. P. (2007). Explaining police bias: A theory of social conditioning and illusory correlation. Criminal Justice And Behavior, 34(10), 1262-1283. doi:10.1177/0093854807304484
This article discusses the effects of illusory correlations on social conditioning, specifically with the overrepresented number of Blacks and Hispanics in police stops, searches and arrests.  
I may also look back at other articles already cited to see if more information can be pulled from them.  If you know of any other sources that will be helpful feel free to post them here. 
Fotherge (talk) 02:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your extensive work. It needs some style changes to bring it into line with Wikipedia style, but it is great to have this range of references. MartinPoulter (talk) 01:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: Fotherge (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK nomination

message: I'm surprised to see illusory correlation listed as a logical fallacy, and can't find a source to justify  this. What's the justification? It's wrong in the same way that it would be wrong to characterise optical illusions as logical fallacies. MartinPoulter (talk) 01:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a logical fallacy 

message: Hi, I'm Autum. I'm contributing to this article as part of a senior seminar. In my initial overview of the article, there needs to be some polishing up. There's a lot of extraneous material, the classification is wrong, and it is not in "encyclopedia" format.
I would like some comments from the group members I'm working with as well as the general public on what seems fuzzy and could be made clearer, moved around, or eliminated altogether.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrooxBroox91 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ordinary Wikipedian here. Thanks all for your comments above. Looking forward to your improvements to the article. It's a very, very interesting topic and it will be wonderful to have a really high-quality article about it. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:32, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Looks good so far- good catch on fixing that dodgy grammar. Question for the group: do illusory correlations break down into different types? I seem to recall from years ago that they could arise either from preconceptions about the topic, or purely abstractly when a minority seems to be correlated with a minority. If that's a legitimate distinction that there are sources for, maybe the intro and structure can highlight that? Just a thought, MartinPoulter (talk) 14:34, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

text: I'd like to add that under the subheading "Learning effects on illusory correlations" hey talk about 2 Murphy et al. experiments. But they fail to talk about 2 specifically different ones. If we're going to keep this in the article, we need to fix that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.6.75.43 (talk) 23:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Bkel, thanks for putting that extra reference in the lead. What you've put is fine but, in the interest of helping other users verify the information for themselves, it's a good idea to put the page or page range when you're citing something from a book. When you are editing, there should be a Cite button on the top toolbar. This opens up another toolbar with a drop-down box for "Templates". If you click on that drop-down, you can select "book" or "Journal" and this brings up a form in which you can put the author, title, publisher, page and so on, and then it all gets formatted in the correct way, and it's a quick way of doing it. If you put in the ISBN of the book it can often fill in the book details automatically. That's how I recommend you put in new references. Good to see the changes all of you are making! MartinPoulter (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I question whether the definition should be in terms of "data". It doesn't sound right to say that in everyday cases of illusory correlation people are seeing a relationship in data, or between two sets of data. Isn't it enough to say that they say a false relationship between two things? Or sets? Or qualities/attributes? MartinPoulter (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  PSY 499 Editing