Talk:Girl Guide and Girl Scout

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===Girl Guides in UK===
The Guides are split up into age groups.
*Rainbows  5 to 7 year olds. Rainbows work from the four areas of the Rainbow Jigsaw - Look, Learn, Love and Laugh.
*Brownies 7 to 10 year olds. Brownies work from the Brownie Adventure which is divided into three areas, You, Community and World. Brownies can also work towards interest badges covering a variety of subjects.
*Guides 10 to 14 year olds. Guides work from the 5 Zones, Healthy Lifestyles, Global Awareness, Skills and Relationships, Celebrating diversity, Discovery. Guides can choose to work on Challenge Badges, Go For Its, Interest badges and the Baden-Powell Challenge which is the highest award that a Guide can gain.
Senior Section 14-26. 
*Young Leaders Work with Rainbows, Brownies or Guides. Can work towards Making It Count or the Adult Leadership scheme as well as other Senior Section opportunities.
*Guiders (18+) Work with Rainbows, Brownies or Guides in a leadership role and are working on/have completed the Adult Leadership Scheme.
*Rangers Meet together to plan and carry out activities, they may work towards any opportunities avaliable to Senior Section members.
*Member of a Look Wider group A Senior Section member who has chosen to focus on the Look Wider scheme.
*Duke of Edinburgh’s Award Participant a Senior Section member who has chosen to focus on the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award.
*Lone Senior Section member A Senior Section member who is working on part of the Senior Section programme, but is not part of a unit.
*In4mer Anyone who has undergone the 4ward, 4 self, 4 others peer education training
*Guide member of SSAGO For Senior Section members who are studying at university or college.
*Female member of LINK 
*Appointment Holder
*Trefoil Guild Member
Senior Section Awards and Qualifications
*Making it Count (leadership)
*Chief Guide’s Challenge
*Commonwealth Award 
*Queen’s Guide Award 
*Residential permits 
*Adult Leadership Qualification
*Duke of Edinburgh’s Award
This information has now been moved to the Girlguiding UK page. There's a lot of work still to do to get it into shape on that page and all help is welcome. Kingbird 16:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we're going with Guide, I'd use Brit spelling. In Brit, program is programme. Rlevse 01:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Country-specific info

message: The Guides are split up into age groups.
*Rainbows  5 to 7 year olds. Rainbows work from the four areas of the Rainbow Jigsaw - Look, Learn, Love and Laugh.
*Brownies 7 to 10 year olds. Brownies work from the Brownie Adventure which is divided into three areas, You, Community and World. Brownies can also work towards interest badges covering a variety of subjects.
*Guides 10 to 14 year olds. Guides work from the 5 Zones, Healthy Lifestyles, Global Awareness, Skills and Relationships, Celebrating diversity, Discovery. Guides can choose to work on Challenge Badges, Go For Its, Interest badges and the Baden-Powell Challenge which is the highest award that a Guide can gain.
Senior Section 14-26. 
*Young Leaders Work with Rainbows, Brownies or Guides. Can work towards Making It Count or the Adult Leadership scheme as well as other Senior Section opportunities.
*Guiders (18+) Work with Rainbows, Brownies or Guides in a leadership role and are working on/have completed the Adult Leadership Scheme.
*Rangers Meet together to plan and carry out activities, they may work towards any opportunities avaliable to Senior Section members.
*Member of a Look Wider group A Senior Section member who has chosen to focus on the Look Wider scheme.
*Duke of Edinburgh’s Award Participant a Senior Section member who has chosen to focus on the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award.
*Lone Senior Section member A Senior Section member who is working on part of the Senior Section programme, but is not part of a unit.
*In4mer Anyone who has undergone the 4ward, 4 self, 4 others peer education training
*Guide member of SSAGO For Senior Section members who are studying at university or college.
*Female member of LINK 
*Appointment Holder
*Trefoil Guild Member
Senior Section Awards and Qualifications
*Making it Count (leadership)
*Chief Guide’s Challenge
*Commonwealth Award 
*Queen’s Guide Award 
*Residential permits 
*Adult Leadership Qualification
*Duke of Edinburgh’s Award
This information has now been moved to the Girlguiding UK page. There's a lot of work still to do to get it into shape on that page and all help is welcome. Kingbird 16:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Girl Guides in UK

message: Canada is one of the many countries that take part in Girl Guides. In French, it is called Guides du Canada. In Canada, the levels of Guiding are:
Sparks: Sparks are the first level of Guiding for girls ages 5-6. The correct uniform is: pink shorts/leggings/sweatpants, and a pink t-shirt/sweatshirt. A pink pinny for badges is also part of the uniform. Every level of Guiding has a special promise recited at meetings. The Spark's promise is: I promise to share and be a friend.  The Sparks now have their own program book and badges, like the Brownies, Guides and Pathfinders program.  
Brownies: Brownies are the second level for girls ages 7-8.  They wear orange shirts/t-shirts, blue pants/shorts/skirts, and white ties with orange leaves. A navy blue badge sash is worn across the right shoulder. The Brownie promise is: I promise to be true to myself, my god/faith, and Canada. I will help other people and keep the Brownie law.
Guides: Guides are the third level for girls ages 9-11. They wear pale blue shirts/t-shirts, navy pants/shorts, and white ties with blue leaves. The navy blue badge sash is also worn. The promise is similar to the brownie promise. It is: I promise to do my best, to be true to myself, my god/faith, and Canada. I will help others and respect the guiding law.
Pathfinders: Considered to be the last juvenile level, Pathfinders are the next level, for girls 12-14. They wear green and white t-shirts/white long sleeved shirts, navy pants/shorts, and white ties with green leaves, and a navy badge sash is worn. The Pathfinder promise is the same as the Guides' promise.  Before, the Pathfinder program was mostly bookwork and discussions, but now, there is a new program that has been made of the girls' suggestions.
Senior Branches: Here, the program branches out into three differant programs, Rangers, Cadets, and Junior Leaders.  Each branch has its own colour, red for Rangers, yellow for Cadets and navy for Junior Leaders.  Senior Branches often wear the same uniform as the adult leaders, although a red Senior Branches t-shirt is now available.  The Senior Branches are treated as junior adults because they are considered to be future Guide leaders.  Their promise is the same as the Guides and Pathfinders.
Further details and history of the Girl Guides can be found in the article on Scouting.
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moved by RlevseRlevse 20:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girl Guides of Canada 

message: What is the norm for this artical, English or American, because program is spelt programme, and I am not familar with English spellings to an extent that I can edit with it.  Darthgriz98 01:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we're going with Guide, I'd use Brit spelling. In Brit, program is programme. Rlevse 01:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English vs American spellings

message: Could one of the experts here please go through and disambiguate the links to Girl Guides. Thanks a million! (Or 245 -- which is the number of links the the page ;-). Ewlyahoocom 06:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but this will take awhile. I did a few just now.Rlevse 10:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somone please diambiguate the links to [[Girl Guides]] 

message: What all is needed for GA? I saw the stuff on the taskforce page and can't find where it says what we have left to do with it. Darthgriz98 20:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See if you can expand the Activities and Organization sections more. A couple pics of girls having fun would be good too. Use Boy Scout as a model as that one made GA easily. It needs more refs too. Let me know if you have questions, I'm still trying to get Our Chalet ready for GA submission.Rlevse 21:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the point raised at  needs to be addressed first... Horus Kol Talk 01:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't, this article is much closer to GA that the proposed Guiding article. This article is about the individual girl, not the movement, which the Guiding would be about, which I'm still not convinced we should do.Rlevse 01:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The point I'm trying to make is that this article contains information which is generic to Guiding and should not be in here - this article is partway between a Guiding article and an article on the Girl Guide - that is what needs to be addressed. Horus Kol Talk 01:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. The article sections are very similar to Boy Scout, though not as detailed, and no one has said that about the Boy Scout article.Rlevse 01:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a problem with the section headings - but if you actually compare the content within sections like Foundation, you'll see that the Girl Guide and Girl Scout article has a lot more information which is better placed in a Guiding article. This level of detail isn't in the Boy Scout article, and rightly so, because there is the Scouting article to deal with this. Horus Kol Talk 11:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Finding pics of the girls is always tough since most are not free images, I'll try to find something though and I'll begin work on that section tomorrow. Darthgriz98 01:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have posted my thoughts on the creation of a Guiding article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting. Kingbird 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made various edits, such as cleanup and copyediting to the page. Is there anything I can do? Sjones23 20:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any constructive improvements are appreciated. You could join the Scouting Project and GG/GS taskforce too. Rlevse 20:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: What kind of info were you hoping to get out of Girlguiding UK? Badges and awards? Typical meeting? I'm not clear what you'd like. Kingbird 21:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Information on the activities they do and how it is organized, like we have in the boy scout article.  I haven't been able to find much on organization. DarthGriz98 04:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA?

message: I'm concerned about the use of the word "troop" in the second paragraph of the article. My understanding is that there in no one word that is used worldwide for those local groups of Guides and Girl Scouts. There are several words, different ones more common in different places. So I'd prefer it if troop isn't the one we used at the start of the article. Local group is the phrase I would use, but I want to know what other people think. Kingbird 19:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troops 

message: ANON IP 88.108.95.228...four different editors have reverted you. If you can't work this out here on the talk page, you will get blocked for disruption and/or WP:3RR violation. I'm posting this on the article page, Girl Guide and Girl Scout's talk page and on your talk page.Sumoeagle179 20:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By starting a revert war, ignoring consensus, and refusing to discuss on the article talk page after being kindly asked more than once. REverting multiple users over the same issue is not a way to build consensus. Doing so 4 times in under 24 hours is a 3RR violation, that's how.Sumoeagle179 21:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert war

message: Since the page has been locked for editing - I gather there's a war going on? - someone who can ought to correct the link for the "Khyber Guides."  Based on my research I think this has to be a reference to the Corps of Guides (British India).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SCGC (talk • contribs) 00:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've unlocked it. It's been protected long enough.Rlevse 01:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to be made 

message: There is a discussion in progress involving the content of this page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Archive 5#Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting article modifications. Kingbird (talk) 06:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the link above to where it really is in the archive. --Bduke  (Discussion) 03:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content discussion 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:WAGGGS.svg

message: I dont know if here is the right place to ask a quedtion of not, by the way, if there is anyone who knows something about the photo I would be pleased if s/he tell me about the girl that is looking directly to the camera, her name and E-mail or anything else. here is my E-mail: vandida2000@yahoo.com Thankyou.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.115.16.209 (talk) 20:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this is not the place to ask for personal information about a person in a photgraph and no editor should give you that information. WP respects privacy. --Bduke  (Discussion) 21:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Read Bduke's talk page, that would be MOST improper.  — Rlevse • Talk •  21:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Persistent critter.  He has also asked, Oct. 29, the person who posted the picture in wikimedia commons Commons:User Talk:Noebse. --Erp (talk) 04:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: There's really no reason for Girl Guides to be a separate article. It duplicates much of the information here and there seems to be no clear dividing line. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:11, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to merge Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting, it is better to merge it "sideways" to Scout (Scouting) instead of "upwards" to Girl Guides.--Egel Reaction? 10:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

text: See List of World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts members— there are at least six organizations using Girl Scout in their name.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:34, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

text: I made the same point on age groups somewhere on one of the various section articles. These separate so-called generic articles don't do a very good overview of the movement as a whole. We have been at this for years and haven't gotten anywhere. Lets focus on this one merger for now, but later we might consider renaming this article to Guiding to reflect the inclusion of boys in parts of the movement.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: * support Girl Guides duplicates much of Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge [[Girl Guides]] here

message: I can't understand the point of this article and why it exists separately from Girl Guides and Girl Scouts. If it's supposed to be about the individual scouts or guides themselves (as opposed to the organization or activity), then why is it called Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting? This article should be retitled and rewritten or someone should just be bold and redirect it. It's been 10+ years of people complaining about it, and it's little more than a stub. —МандичкаYO 😜 20:20, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is supposed to be about the section that is for girls from about 11 upwards. Like all the other articles about sections, the different names cause confusion. We have articles on Brownies, Cubs, Rovers, Rangers etc., so we should have one on the original sections for Guides and Scouts. Or we should delete all of them and just have a general article on Sections in Scouting and Guiding. --Bduke  (Discussion) 21:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a mess