Talk:Sailor Saturn

message: The descriptions for Death Reborn Revolution and dropping the Silence Glaive contradict themselves. Death Reborn Revolution should probably be edited to describe what it actually does, and that is it inflicts a heavy amount of damage in the manga, and is an attack used before Saturn dropped her glaive in the anime (according to the official film books)-- not that it has the power to destroy the world. mochi 13:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that too, and agree. I'm not sure I have the details down exactly enough to fix it correctly myself, but it does need to be fixed. --Masamage 22:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure either since that particular power is always being debated. mochi 21:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't dropping the Silence Glaive part of "Death Reborn Revolution"?  I'm pretty sure that's how it's mentioned in the manga.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 08:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no incantation for dropping the glaive. Saturn drops the Silence Glaive about six pages after she says Death Reborn Revolution. She also makes a couple of statements to Pharaoh 90 before actually dropping her glaive during those pages. Also, about three pages prior the dropping, the attack has actually ended via the ribbons vanishing. However, it does appear that some kind of light or energy forms around the blade of the glaive right before she drops it. Perhaps that's worth mentioning? mochi 07:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno. That's interesting, but it's so much detail with so little clear meaning that it seems like fancruft. --Masamage 19:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: >.<;; Fan confusion again. "Silence Glaive Surprise" is not the same as "Death Reborn Revoluion." There is no Death Reborn Revolution anime side, only in the Another Story game. It was never given a name or shown what she actually did to Pharaoh 90, so it can't be *that* attack. Rule is not named, then it is not it. (See Sailor Cosmos anime reference section.) Personally, it sounded like slashing to me, which is very different profile from the manga attack. The pages where the attack happens are 90-96. She is powering up from pages 90-95, and releases on page 96. It creates such great destruction in the form of tornados/typhoon type funnels hat Pluto seals her in the time gates. Then Sailormoon has to power up to Princess Serenity form to restore that section of the city. (this was not done in the anime. They just left it a wreck. =P This is volume 10, Act 33, original manga. --Hitsuji Kinno 06:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's "that jutsu". ^_^ Danny Lilithborne 06:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dropping the Silence Glaive comes at the end of "Death Reborn Revolution", right?  Wouldn't that make the first and last attack on the page in the "Powers" section the same?  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 08:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Several years late, but so we don't keep throwing around wrong information, "mochi" said the official film books state that Death Reborn Revolution is used. And they do. That isn't to say the film books are correct, though, but "mochi's" statement isn't incorrect "fanconfusion." 76.22.123.49 (talk) 07:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Alright, let's clear this up. Look here (Death Reborn Revolution is an manga only attack) and here (Death Reborn Revolution does not destroy the world)--Freesonwang 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers Section 

message: I added a link to a youtube of Saturns transformation, is this alright? Lego3400:  The Sage of Time 04:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the guidelines just to be sure, and the third box down says we can't link to places where other people break copyright. (Most people who know about YouTube will figure it out themselves, though. ^^;;) --Masamage 04:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really... Darn....  Is is a nice sequance though... Lego3400:  The Sage of Time 04:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Only in one game, Sega Saturn one: Look here.--Freesonwang 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: That link also says it's not in the Playstation game, which we had been reporting. --Masamage 22:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saturn henshin 

message: My thought is that if we used the manga-style Saturn image for our lead, then she would at least match up with Sailor Pluto's lead image (as Neptune and Uranus match each other). Possibly it should be zoomed in somewhat to make it larger and stronger? --Masamage 19:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good reason. :) It kind of bugged me too, to be honest. If I zoom it it, would you mind my switching it back again? --Masamage 21:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: no i wouldnt mind i liked that pick better i just thourght it needed zooming ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 21:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. How's it look? --Masamage 21:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Sweet. --Masamage 21:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential image shuffle 

message: Before using Silence Glaive Surprise in Nehelenia's palace, Sailor Saturn raised her Silence Glaive and said, "There seems to be no choice," and that she was going to "release the power of Death." She also said that she was going to "end everything." She is about to destroy the planet. When Nehelenia gets scared and asks Saturn why she'd do it and if it was worth it, Saturn replies, "I believe in our princess." When Nehelenia gets to blasting Saturn with her power and Saturn is blocking all of it with her Silent Wall, before she goes through with her word to release the power of Death, she says, "Princess, please save our future!" She refers to her princess again. I personally think this kind of corresponds to what she says to Sailor Moon in the Infinity Arc of the manga, in that shes putting her hope onto Sailor Moon to revive the world after she destroys it. What do you think? Anyway, she then goes on to use the Silence Glaive Surprise, but as shes swinging down the glaive Chibimoon throws herself onto Saturn before Saturn can finish bringing down the glaive, not after. The glaive was actually still being held in the air at a 60 degree angle, not close to ground at all, but even so, there was still a huge explosion easily engulfed the entire palace. So apparently, power (and a damn lot of it) is released from the glaive as soon as she begins to lower it, so even if she doesnt finish lowering the glaive to the ground there is still awesome power released from it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.159.111.135 (talk • contribs) 
:Seems fair. Thanks. --Masamage ♫ 18:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silence Glaive Surprise in the anime 

message: Please be aware of the discussion at WP:SM about moving this article to the title Sailor Saturn. --Masamage ♫ 18:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus seems to have been reached, so here goes! I'll move it, then rewrite the lead, then clean redirects and such. --Masamage ♫ 02:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move to Sailor Saturn

message: See the discussion here. Like I say there, I think we can do without the pictures of the musical actresses. The first one was put up at Sailor Uranus by some random person, and I ended up hunting down a few more (for the other Outers, ChibiChibi, Starlights, and Galaxia), but in the end I don't think they're really necessary. If the Hotaru picture goes, I say we get rid of the others as well. The only exception I can think of might be ChibiChibi, because the relative age of the actress playing her is interesting. --Masamage ♫ 04:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical image for deletion 

message: There is a picture in the manga where the glaive wasn't developed yet that's clearly meant to be of Sailor Saturn. Does this count as part of the "development" section?--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 05:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, that blotchy star-looking thing in the Materials Collection? I forgot about that. Sure! --Masamage ♫ 05:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Development section

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Sailor Saturn's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "materials":
From Sailor Neptune: 
From Sailor Starlights: 
From Sailor Senshi: 
From Amazoness Quartet:  - A translation is available at The Manga of Takeuchi Naoko
From Shitennou (Sailor Moon): 
From List of minor Sailor Moon characters: 
From Sailor Mars: 
From Sailor Jupiter: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Sailor Saturn]] 

message: It says on the main page that Sailor Saturn did not live among the other Sailor Soldiers during the time of the Silver Millenium and that her coming had always been prevented by Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. But then further down in the article it is mentioned that during the time of the Silver Millenium Princess Saturn wore a purple gown and lived in the Titan castle. This is a contradiction that needs to be fixed. JupiterThunder (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, that's a contradiction in the manga itself. T_T It could be stated as such more explicitly, though. --Masamage ♫ 08:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: This article had a lot of POV. Like best, etc. Also it had a lot of OR which I cut out of the article, like, perhaps, maybe, and for Sailor Saturn this is maybe her most important... She's not a living character, so I cut that, I worked on organization and upgraded her development section. I also added places where citations are needed because a lot of this article isn't supported. As the references are now, it won't pass B class classification, so the next sweep after we stabilize this article's contents more should be for that citation sweep.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 17:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it pretty much needs to be rewritten. I'll put it on my to-do list--thanks for making this first run-through. --Masamage ♫ 16:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: General Clean up

message: There was a sentence in the article saying that in the anime, Hotaru's mother was only seen in the shadows. That is not correct. I took that out. She says her mother is dead, and if there is any objection, I will be glad to find the episode to back this up. I do not recall the exact episode in S where it is said, but I can easily find out. Just let me know. :) --UsagiEriko (talk) 00:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that was referring to a flashback. --Masamage ♫ 00:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is what it was: "In the anime, she does not have a cybernetic body and is an outcast because of her powers and seizures. Her mother is shown in shadow, but is never given a name like the manga, nor much of a background." --UsagiEriko (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. So maybe it could replaced, with a clarification? Like, "Her mother appears in shadow in a flashback, but..." &c? I forget if it's true or not, though. X) --Masamage ♫ 00:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't recall a flashback with her mother at all in the series, but I will double check over the weekend. --UsagiEriko (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

text: She does appear in a flashback, the episode I believe is where they go on a picnic and then Hotaru remembers her mother. In the manga Hotaru's mother is given a name and an age. (She's older than Hotaru's father.)--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 21:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hotaru's Mother 

message: Would you say she belongs in the category :Category:Fictional cyborgs? Because she's explicitly referred to as one in the article at least twice. I think she fits. Maximajorian Viridio (talk) 23:53, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional cyborgs? 

message: An early version of the Tokyopop manga in the printed Smile magazine #6 used "Jenny" in one panel but used "Hotaru" for all others. This was changed for the graphic novel volumes to "Hotaru" for all occasions https://www.sailormoonforum.com/index.php?threads/revisiting-the-tokyopop-manga.32756/page-5
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  In version of Tokyopop manga in Smile magazine