Talk:Bergenhus Fortress

message: Note:proponent didn't put info about move on Wikipedia:Requested moves here, as he or she should have done.  Proposed moving Bergenshus to replace existing article about a different Bergenhus, apparently intending to just discard the other info.
Oppose.  If you can in fact establish a spelling error (but this existed in a day of unstandardized spellings which often are at variance with the spellings in either flavor of modern Norwegian, which don't always agree with each other), since there is already a different article under the title Bergenhus proposed to be moved to, and since that deals with something current, put some disambiguation into the title.  Make it Bergenhus (fortress) or something like that if you can in fact establish that that should be the proper spelling, and not Bergenshuus (which was the common spelling of the old amts (now Hordaland fylke). Gene Nygaard 23:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you are right about this name, and can probably now do it yourself though since it was listed I'm not sure what the proper protocol is.  But of course there is one glaring example which shows that proper names can vary between nynorsk and bokmål; one seen on Norwegian postage stamps, for example:  Noreg and Norge.  I can give you others, from the farm names I'm familiar with.  Gene Nygaard 17:25, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes, granted. And in very conservative nynorsk, you can find Sverike rather than Sverige for Sweden as well. These are the exceptions that confirm the rule though - different spellings of farm names have to do with other factors than correct present-day nynorsk or bokmål, they might have been written very differently at different points in time. (Barend 17:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am moving the page to Bergenhus fortress (Barend 18:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Can you establish "correct" spellings in both bokmål and nynorsk? or English? What evidence do you have?  Gene Nygaard 23:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you are right about this name, and can probably now do it yourself though since it was listed I'm not sure what the proper protocol is.  But of course there is one glaring example which shows that proper names can vary between nynorsk and bokmål; one seen on Norwegian postage stamps, for example:  Noreg and Norge.  I can give you others, from the farm names I'm familiar with.  Gene Nygaard 17:25, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes, granted. And in very conservative nynorsk, you can find Sverike rather than Sverige for Sweden as well. These are the exceptions that confirm the rule though - different spellings of farm names have to do with other factors than correct present-day nynorsk or bokmål, they might have been written very differently at different points in time. (Barend 17:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am moving the page to Bergenhus fortress (Barend 18:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional comments

message: I'm proposing a merger of the articles Haakon's Hall and Rosenkrantz Tower into this article. Both buildings are part of the fortress, and the three articles cover much of the same topics. As all three are quite short, and unlikely to grow a lot without starting to repeat what is said in the two other articles, it would make sense to merge them into this article. --Aqwis 00:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since noone has replied, i'm going to merge the articles now. --Aqwis 19:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

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