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Talk:Nothofagus fusca

message: The species Nothofagus fusca (Hook.f.) Oerst has been moved to the new species Fuscospora fusca
Should this page be moved and a redirect from this page be created?Its-mrb (talk) 10:43, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Update - change of botanical name completed, as well as some other light editing (including synonyms listed in the infobox)Its-mrb (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Fuscospora fusca 
Talk:Nothofagus menziesii

message: The species Nothofagus menziesii (Hook.f.) Oerst has been moved to the new species Lophozonia menziesii
Should this page be moved and a redirect from this page be created? Its-mrb (talk) 11:00, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Update - change of botanical name completed, as well as some other light editing (including synonyms listed in the infobox)Its-mrb (talk) 06:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Lophozonia menziesii 
Talk:Quercus marilandica

message: That picture of the leaves is pretty misleading, and it ought to be taken down.  The lobes are very rounded, and give the leaf more of a club like apperance.  I'm not even sure that's the correct oak leaf in the picture, but if it is, it isn't representative of the majority of blackjack oaks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.7.17.3 (talk) 18:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Replaced with a new photoMasebrock (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Leaf picture
Talk:Quercus palustris

message: Could someone post a picture of a pin oak leaf? Kind of silly to have an article about a tree with no way of identifying it, besides bark patterns. 207.109.40.223 00:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is an angiosperm, like all oak trees.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.7.17.3 (talk) 18:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

message: The words "pin" and "oak" are inconsistently capitalized throughout the article. Whatever the correct form is, some standard must be established and consistently applied.zadignose (talk) 13:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pin Oak, Pin oak, pin oak... capitalization? 

message: “ Pin oaks are also classified as allelopathic, meaning they crowd out or otherwise successfully compete with understory vegetation to survive.”
^ Allelopathy is when plants emit chemical compounds to deter the success of nearby competing plants. 74.133.185.209 (talk) 02:45, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allelopathy
Talk:State National Council

message: On 22 July 1944 the KRN together with the Union of Polish Patriots (ZPP) formed a new governmental structure, the Polish Committee of National Liberation (Polski Komitet Wyzwolenia Narodowego, PKWN) in the newly liberated Lublin province
#Not any KRN but Joseph Stalin
#Not in the Lublin province but in Moscow
#Lublin was liberated on August 1
#The liberation meant similar repressions - pacifications, arrests, robbery. Xx236 (talk) 13:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet propaganda 

message: The phrase Its founding was the initial stage in the formation of a communist government of Poland should be sourced. The formation of a communist government of Poland was designed and controlled by Joseph Stalin, who didn't need any State National Council at that moment. Xx236 (talk) 08:52, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial stage?
Talk:Quercus ilex

message: I would like to know where the name holm oak came from, so if anyone can add that to the article, I would appreciate it. --DBlomgren (talk) 21:02, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--Curtis Clark (talk) 23:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name "holm oak" 

message: The article begins with:
"The Holm Oak (Quercus ilex), also called Holly Oak or Evergreen Oak, is a large evergreen oak native to the Mediterranean region. It takes its name from holm, an obsolete name for holly."
But it's not only "holm" that means (or meant) holly ... but the other part of its name -- "ilex" -- is the (non-obsolete) genus name for holly.
So the holm oak means "holly holly" ???Daqu (talk) 06:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: It's not just "holm" but also "ilex" that means holly

message: I do not think it is true. In north central Spain it is one of the most common trees and winters are cold there. -15ºC or -20ºC seem to be no problem for it.
:I agree. Quercus ilex is quite a hardy tree in its natural habitat, and the parts of the British Isles where it has become established are definitely not frost-free. More generally, greater accuracy could be achieved if the statement on Q. ilex as a nonnative invasive species was based on scholarly or official primary sources. I am working on it. Courrege (talk) 18:30, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quercus Ilex cannot stand the frost??? 

message: Article says presence in northern Europe is a phenomena of climate change. Also says there's one in Fulham (London, UK) reputed to be 500 years old. I'd wager the pair I saw today in Patching, West Sussex are well over 100 years old. Worthing, also West Sussex, has a famous Ilex Way, of similar, recorded, age. I'm no CC sceptic, but attributing Quercus Ilex presence in N Europe to CC seems to be a bit of a leap. Perhaps it was cleared by the little ice age. Well, of course, that was *a* climate change, but nowadays the term CC is synonymous with recent man-made climate change. 89.241.157.164 (talk) 20:46, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the reference to climate change rather spurious?
Talk:Government Delegation for Poland

message: I couldn't find any estabilished English translation other than just delegatura used in several works. Currently, delegatura is a disambig. Should we move this article to delegatura, and the disambig to delegatura (disambiguation)? It may be better to use part of the original name, used in some English works (), rather than our own translation, not used in any publication ().--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  19:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the reason you were unable to find an appropriate English version of the Polish name is that there are very few competent Polish-English translators, whether in the Polish-history field or elsewhere.  Sometimes, regrettably, we have no choice but to create an English equivalent; and I would not burden that act with the opprobrious label of "original research" (otherwise, any text that we import from the Polish language into English, i.e., any translation, would be "original research"!).  Nihil novi (talk) 20:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I've studied French for 4 years and am pretty fluent in the language. Should I write a French translation of this page? 
(And if I should... ::embarassed chuckle:: how exactly would I connect the French translation of the article to the original article? Help, please? Someone?)
PigeonOfTheNight (talk) 07:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  French translation? 
Talk:Quercus cerris

message: In light of the fact that one of the easiest ways to differentiate this species is the fluffy acorn cups (as shown in this article), this article would really benefit from a good picture of the acorn.  Anybody?  ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Acorn pictures?
Talk:Quercus petraea

message: I've heard the Sessile oak also being called Welsh oak, possibly as a form of arboreal rivalry to the Pedunculate (or English) oak. I suppose this usage would be pretty restricted in its geographical range. Throquzum 12:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The emphasis should be on sessile oak rather than Cornish oak as sessile is the common name used. This is the only article that I have come across using the name Cornish Oak. Jowaninpensans (talk) 10:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones  (GG-J's Talk) 18:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

text:  It's commonly called the "upland oak", throughout Britain (at least where there are any of them). It's widely distributed, rare in good conditions (those oaks will be Q. robur), but more common on poorer soils and upland areas. It's also thought of as smaller than robur, but although true as a general observation, that's more to do with habitat than species. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree. Quercus petraea is not peculiar to any of these regions. Sessile oak is the BSBI name. Plantsurfer 10:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   thanks for responding. I went ahead and removed those terms Irish, Welsh and Cornish oak. Added BSBI as reference for sessile oak. Then GRIN for durmast oak. I retained some of the info about (unofficial) national symbols as the provided references do support this. The Tree Council of Ireland reference did not support either Irish oak or it being the national symbol and a check beyond didn't yield me anything. Declangi (talk) 09:14, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welsh Oak 

message: If one of you experts of this species could head over to Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors#Today's POTD in the next 90 minutes, that'll be great. Schwede66 22:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page watchers please note
Talk:Turnshoe

message: I made a stub.  It needs to be expanded, and also needs citations.--Tabun1015 04:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's own page for cordwainer states that they made "luxury shoes" of "fine leather", not the average thick-soled leather shoe of the masses. 74.211.93.55 (talk) 18:28, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's own page for cordwainer is wrong, has awful citations, and also needs to be rewritten almost from scratch. Amuckart (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Quercus virginiana

message: Quercus virginiana does extend into some areas of southeastern Texas, but not all of the areas shown in Texas have native Q. virginiana. Also, every patch in Mexico and Oklahoma is invalid; these and the invalid areas of Texas have Quercus fusiformis, a closely-related and much more cold-hardy species. The map needs to be updated to reflect this, and perhaps a separate map showing the range of Q. fusiformis should be made for that article (which also includes the Norman, Oklahoma area). Even I was confused until I studied more closely.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvergreenLAM (talk • contribs) 04:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map in species box 

message: Having 2 and 1/2 of the intro's 3 paragraphs be about taxonomy is excessive; I'm moving it down into its own section. - Draeco (talk) 03:52, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxonomy section 

message: Does anyone have an image of the timber, and/or of an item dyed with live-oak dye? --Badger151 (talk) 11:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for additional images 

message: I'm wondering what triggers the leaves to fall.  Ours began here in Las Cruces NM yesterday Feb 8 and I'm wondering when others are shedding. 2601:8C1:8200:8480:E4B2:3302:89A6:F64A (talk) 18:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Live Oak Shedding
Talk:Quercus macrocarpa

message: Contradiction:
<<It is one of slowest-growing oaks, with growth rate of 30 cm (1 ft) per year when young.>>
<<It is one of the most tolerant of urban conditions of the white oaks, and is one of the fastest-growing of the group.>>
Either the two statements are contradictory, or one of them has to be clarified.Star-lists (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be that is is a fast growing *white oak* but a slow growing oak in general. However, all I have seen is that is is slow growing oak.  Vstartesla (talk) 03:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: October 2009

message: Early in the article, it says trees "commonly get to be 200 to 300 years old, and may live up to 400 years". Later, it says "by 100 to 110 years". Could a knowledgeable person please clarify the expected life span of these trees? Pete unseth (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Second this request. Although I can verify that the Bur Oak pictured in the infobox has been scientifically verified to be between 300-400 years old, probably around 350. So my guess is 100-110 is an error, probably a copy paste or something from another species of tree. Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  contradictory statements about age 

message: Category:Flora of Nebraska contains no native trees so far as I could see, which even for a prairie is incorrect. Bur oak is native and should be added to this list. Other trees like redbud, maple, ash, hickory, hackberry, and juniper also have native species. 
It may be that trees are not included in ‘Flora’, but the page describes nothing of the sort. “Trees of ___” pages exist for other places, but not Nebraska, so I feel they should be placed here. 
Furthermore, if trees are added there, they should have a subcategory, as should shrubs, alongside grasses. 
I probably should have added this to the US or Nebraska wikiprojects, but it appears they are quite busy and a talk page for the category page does not exist. My apologies for adding many more trees than just Bur oak.  Vstartesla (talk) 02:47, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing from Nebraska Native Flora
Talk:Live oak

message: The "driveway" looks like an avenue of Southern live oak and might say so. --Wetman (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

message: One of the first questions I had on coming here and finding out it was an evergreen oak was along the lines of what do the leaves look like--do they look like a typical oak leaf or are they more like a typical evergreen "needle"? (And, of course, if the latter, why/how is it classified as an oak?)
I can't really tell from the picture.  
Could somebody who knows say something about the leaves (in the article)?
:not at all like pine needles, but somewhat different looking from the oaks one typically thinks of. The leaves are small about 1/10 the size of a typical oak leaf and they are tougher, but when you look closely you see the resemblance to the oak leaf form. Mirboj (talk) 03:07, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are asking about the Southern Live oak, Quercus virginiana, then I'd say the leaves look similar to those of a holly (Ilex species), like the American holly (Ilex opaca) on shade leaves, leaves on vigorous shoots or leaves on juvenile plants, while more mature plants' leaves and leaves on less vigorous shoots or sun leaves look more like those of the Burford holly (a cultivar of Ilex cornuta) as can be seen in this photo http://chalk.richmond.edu/biology/trees/images/Ilex_cornuta_Burfordii_fr.jpg They don't really bear a resemblance to a typical deciduous oak tree's leaves in my opinion. Other "live" oaks have widely differing looking leaves and some of them do have more typical deciduous oak like leaves, like in the mostly Mexican oak Quercus canbyi or the exclusively Mexican oak Quercus albocincta for example. Kmanblue (talk) 04:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaves: Like deciduous oaks? 

message: In Nov 2009 an anonymous editor added "Rocket Tree" as an alternate name for live oak. I can find no support for such a term online, so I'm going to delete it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim10701 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rocket Tree 

message: Isn't Quercus glaucoides a live oak? Why isn't it listed? Undesignated (talk) 07:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Quercus glaucoides?
Talk:Fagus grandifolia

message: Is there any reason why this article, Mexican Beech, and Oriental Beech are titled by their common names, unlike the Japanese Beech and the Taiwan Beech which go by their scientific names? I'm no dendrologist, but it seems totally inconsistent with the rest of the wikipedia's articles on trees. UltraBibendum (talk) 02:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I flipped this article to its latin name dm (talk) 16:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Beech Species

message: Hey, readers and editors. If you have access to American beech trees and a good camera, this article could use better pictures of the leaves (say, a close-up of one leaf on a beech tree in sunlight) and nuts (a closeup of a split open nut husk with the nut inside). The current pictures of leaves and nuts aren't that good, and there aren't any better ones on Wikimedia Commons. — Eru·tuon 20:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos needed 

message: Google has also massively the name Fagus grandiflora or Fagus grandiflora var. mexicana, adequacy?--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: not sure what you mean by "adequacy", but, yes, it's a common typo it seems. There's a nice example here, where the title has the correct epithet grandifolia but the text has the erroneous grandiflora. Google Scholar gives me 462 hits (including citations) for the erroneous Fagus grandiflora and 22,900 for the correct Fagus grandifolia. The erroneous name does appear with one record in GBIF. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Fagus grandiflora?
Talk:Quercus falcata

message: i'm guessing that all the oak tree pages that have "project alabama" on them were created by the same user, because a tree that's found commonly along the eastern united states, doesn't really fall into an Alabama themed project.
Also, I've heard this oak refered to as "Clapper Oak" because of the shape of the leaf.  I don't have a source for this as of now, but I'm pretty sure it's verifiable since the current description pretty much backs this up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.7.17.3 (talk) 18:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Quercus gambelii

message: Should "oak" in the title be capitalized?  It is on similar articles. 65.120.179.226 16:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

message: I see that this tree is always associated with Rocky Mountain Juniper and if those trees are cut around it, it does poorly or dies.
My observations are at my property at 7000 feet in central NM, east of Albuquerque in the Manzano Mountains. 98.97.84.201 (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: A very interesting observation. Do you know of anyone studying this formally or who has written about this in a book? MtBotany (talk) 15:50, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gambel oak in New Mexican mountains
Talk:Quercus calliprinos

message: Q. calliprinos is synonym 4 Q. coccifera, see http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-171917 and http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=171917 --Zeljko (talk) 19:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: correct, redirected at last! Peter coxhead (talk) 08:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Quercus coccifera

message: *The areticle says "Quercus coccifera is usually a shrub less 2 metres (6.6 ft) tall, rarely a small tree". But I have a book about Crete, where prickly oak is common, and it seems to say that its natural height is a fullsized tree, and that why it is usually seen as low ground cover or scrub is because of heavy grazing pressure by sheep and goats. As grazing pressure is relaxed, it grows up into hummocks, then shapes like topiary, then cylindrical shapes; then if it gets a top twig above sheep and goat reach, it grows up away high. Same if a prickly oak seed lodges and grows away on a cliff where grazing animals cannot reach it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:22, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: some sources distinguish between Quercus coccifera in the western Mediterranean and species that may be called Quercus cretica, Quercus calliprinos, etc. in the eastern Mediterranean. One supposed distinction is then height: the western forms are shorter than the eastern. But Plants of the World Online and other authoritative sources regard this as one variable species. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Growth height? 

message: How old can these trees get?? BasileusAutokratorPL (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maximum age
Talk:Cyclobalanopsis

message: It is ONLY the Flora of China that treats Cyclobalanopsis as a genus. Almost all botanists incl. the ones responsible for the genus Quercus consider it a subgenus. In my opinion Wikipedia should follow the currently most common opinion and add Cyclobalanopsis as a subgenus of Quercus.
:I agree. For example, Angiosperm Phylogeny Website (http://www.mobot.org/mobot/research/APweb/welcome.html) and all the taxonomy databases (like http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/taxonomyhome.html/ and http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/tax_search.pl) either don't know Cyclobalanopsis or consider it a synonym of Quercus. Krasanen (talk) 18:30, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cyclobalanopsis to Quercus
Talk:Quercus canariensis

message: I live in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia and have just been on a walk where we saw a fine old 
Algerian oak. This in not mentioned in the article, and there is no reason why it should be. 
However, I am amazed at the content of the article. It is as if the tree is not found anywhere
else in the world. Obviously, I am not really in a position to add more content, but the artcile
certainly needs it!! --Bduke (talk) 05:03, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Content
Talk:Royal Oak

message: Is it really called "Son of Royal Oak" anywhere but here? It seems conventional in UK English to use the mother/daughter paradigm when writing about trees, although oaks do of course bear flowers of both sexes. Sjwells53 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Son of?

message: I've posted close-ups of the acorns of daughter trees on the quercus robur discussion page to solicit identification. They don't look like English Oak acorns to me, but Sessile Oak or Welsh Oak. I've been planting acorns from the Jubilee oak in compost today, and they were clearly carried in cups growing straight out of the twigs, not on long stems. I wish I could get a better photo of those on the parent tree. However, the Jubilee and Tercentenary Oaks are well-attested first-generation descendants and should be good enough. I'm not sure what the evidence for the implied identification is. The sources all just seem to call it an oak. Sjwells53 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Species identification

message: The king and Careless took some food and drink and they spent all day hiding in a pollarded oak tree which became known as the Royal Oak.
I question the description of the tree as pollarded, is it backed in the citation to Antonia Fraser's biography of Charles II? A pollarded tree would surely have offered insufficient concealment in daytime for two grown men (the King himself grew to 6 feet 2 inches tall) hiding from searching Roundhead troops?  Depictions - albeit artistic impressions made years after event - normally show the oak tree in full foliage before the autumn leaf shedding would have set in. Neither the articles on Escape of Charles II and Boscobel House give the description. Cloptonson (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fraser, p. 151, "In those days the tree was a large and particularly bushy pollard oak". Pollarding can increase the number of small branches arising from main boughs, so making the foliage denser.Urselius (talk) 11:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: "pollarded"?