Talk:Melayu Kingdom

message: The problem with this article is that its not based upon WP:reliable sources, and much of the article is therefore wrong. Websites should not be used as information sources until they are considered to be authoritative, and I'm not aware of any websites which are authoritative sources for this topic. (Caniago 10:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, the Dara Jingga, Bundo Kanduang, both I discovered at ms/id.Wikipedia and many other info too. If possible, you point out the 'incorrect' links, and we improve it. L joo 11:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, wikipedia cannot reference itself, including other language wikipedia's. Although, if they are reliable one could use references on other language wikipedias. Merbabu 13:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual accuracy

message: Recently the user: Dravidianhero pushing the Tamil version of Malay etymology and discarding other versions and making wild accusation of vandalism and threating blocking me from editing. Let's not be too hasty and emotional here. As far as I know Indonesia did absorb many aspect of Hindu-Buddhist influences from Indian through adoptions of Sanskrit and Pali languages, and to lesser extent, Tamil. You see, I did not even erase or reject the Tamil origin possibility of the "Malay" etymons, yet you reject other versions and pushing your view. The neutral solution is mentioning as many souces of Malay etymologies including its possible sanskrit origin. One should avoid a biased non-neutral, suspectedly ethnic-based chauvinist agenda. I perceive Dravidian hero as a fierce supporter of Tamil nationalist agenda here in wikipedia and pushed it in some articles he/she edited. I hope common understanding could be achieved, meanwhile the last complete version should be maintained. Regards.Gunkarta (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm.., I can understand your Tamil source arguments and kind of agree with it. That is why I did not erase nor reject the Tamil origin etymon, since it is also equipped with references. My edits here is nothing to do with anti-Tamil sentiment. However, it is commonly accepted here that Indonesia and Malaysia received many Sanskrit derived words, but somehow less from Tamil. Many place names in Indonesia and Malaysia have Sanskrit roots, and it is possible that the name "Malay" derived from Sanskrit, that ultimately derived it from Dravidian languages.Gunkarta (talk) 16:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are ignoring it again and again. There is no remotely reliable source, which supports your Sanskrit fantasies. I made it very clear, why this is the case in my previous arguments. The Sanskrit word is a loanword from Tamil like Melayu is a loanword from the same Tamil root, with the addition of the very important word Ur, meaning city, land, again a Tamil word. That's from what they say Melayu derives from, they don't write Malaya for the simple reasons stated above. It is needless to say, that most probably it was Tamil speakers, who incorporated the word Malaya for their Sanskrit texts and Tamils were the ones who brought Sanskrit to SE Asia as well. It was Tamil culture which was brought there, it doesn't matter in which language they passed it to you.-- Dravidian  Hero  17:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.., I can understand and quite agree with your argument, I'll remove the sanskrit part. Most of sources I've encountered did mention its possible Tamil source..., cheers...Gunkarta (talk) 09:37, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
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