Talk:Aqua String Band

message: Again, I am unable to locate reliable sources for any of this. The band's official site merely used the text from this very article. (Obviously, we cannot use this article as a source for itself.) Other than that, the bit referring to Prohibition (but not the legend of the water toast) had been picked up by a Fox 29 blurb, but the wording made it clear it had been taken from this article or a site copying this article. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:15, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I found an apparently reliable source (Temple University Press) for part of this claim. I have added it, with an appropriate cite. There is still no source for the "water toast" legend. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of name

message: For starters "throughout the country" here is a bit vague. I am unsure if the author intended the U.S. or Germany here.
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More to the point, there is no reliable source given for this and I am unable to find one. Is it likely true? Sure. There are millions of things we could say about a band that's been around for over 90 years that are likely true. The way Wikipedia sorts the trivial from the meaningful is coverage in independent reliable sources. The captain probably ties his own shoes, but no reliable sources discuss that. The band marches in the annual Mummers Parade, which sources discuss. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Germany and numerous Fasching/Carnival parades and celebrations

message: Frankly, there doesn't seem to be significant coverage in independent reliable sources for Aqua. Yes, we have reliable sources putting them is the Mummers Parade and a few local events. However, we need significant coverage. I don't want to delete this, but we need sources.
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For examples of articles that have sources and survived deletion attempts, please see Greater Kensington (string band), Pennsport (string band) and Adelphia (fancies). Personally, I'd like to be able to establish articles for all of the clubs. Without sources, we cannot do that.
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While it is clear that Mummers clubs maintain their own histories in one way or another, I don't see many of their websites adding pages with links to press coverage. That's a bit of a shame as potential donors/patrons obviously are looking for some indication that the band isn't just a bunch of guys walking down the street once a year. Wikipedia articles frequently top search engine results. A solid article here is in each club's best interest. Articles on clubs certainly support articles on other clubs: Once we have articles on, say, 3/4 of the clubs, it will be far easier to argue for articles on all of the clubs.
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Adding material based on what someone told you is a waste of time. We need sources. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable? 

message: If anyone can get access to a hard copy of the book below, it may have some useful information.
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* and it looks like there are sources to verify that it released a couple of recordings and won an early award at the parade. And several sources for the Prohibition related name. however not a lot of "significant" coverage, mostly just trivial passing mentions it looks like.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential source