Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Unitheism

message: Here is a reference for its use in Pantheism, in the form of the thousands year old belief system of Native Indians. http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:S3xu_J3QXjUJ:www.usbr.gov/pmts/economics/reports/Valuation%2520of%2520Indian%2520Resources%2520Land%2520and%2520Water%2520Resources.pdf+unitheism&hl=en&client=firefox-a
:Comment: Quote removed to shorten discussion page.--The Boomer 21:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Criticism: a guidebook for valuing land and water resources is not a treatise on theology. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Comment: Quote removed to shorten discussion page.--The Boomer 21:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: this is someone's personal webpage. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: Tripod site. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Comment: Quote removed to shorten discussion page.--The Boomer 21:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: Self-published essay by a non-notable person. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Comment: Quote removed to shorten discussion page.--The Boomer 21:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: second citation of someone's personal website. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Comment: Quote removed to shorten discussion page.--The Boomer 21:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: message board post. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Criticism: no citation comes from a news report, academic journal, or other reliable source.  The only only semi-reliable source is a guidebook on water resource management. Durova 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from AfD to talk page

message: Ok, the links you provided consist of:
#A document by the US Department of the Interior, Bureau of Reclamation.  It references Kaelin, as you cite, who used the word in this book to describe Native American spiritual systems.
#An attempt at neologism by someone in France writing essays about how he thinks things oughtta be.
#A broken link to a personal page by some Wiccan figuring they thought of the word first.  Maybe many Wiccans use the word "unitheism", but this link doesn't convince me of that.
#An essay on Mithra by Louis Prat, who seems to be a currently active French Philosopher, but it's hard to find much info about him w/ Google.  It's not clear to me what he's using the word to mean.  Maybe "unitheism" is in his dictionary.
#Same website as #2, creepier page.  Again, this is some cat who figures there's an unused word and they found it first.
#A messageboard post at beliefnet in which some Unitarian is listing every alternative church they can think of that begins with a 'U'?  What could they be referring to as "Unitheism"?  We have no way of knowing.  I'll bet you a dollar they don't know either.
Then you make an argument why Mr. King's claim to originating the word shouldn't be allowed in Wikipedia, on account of it being an already established word.  My reply is that no, it isn't an established word at all, and we don't accept neologisms, no matter how spotty their pedigree.  For those two reasons (it wasn't a word before Mr King got to it, and it still isn't), I think the article should be deleted.  Wikipedia's job is neither to promote new usages, nor to prevent them by attempting to establish slightly older neologisic usages lest newer ones catch on.  If King and Farr can get the world (or just a noticable fraction of it) talking about their version of Unitheism, then other people will write about it here without being asked to, but that hasn't happened yet. -GTBacchus(talk) 00:56, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply by GTBacchus (written before I saw Durova's more succinct criticims)