Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 4

message: According to WikiProject Television (a parent project of WikiProject Anime and manga), the (voice) actors should be included with the character descriptions instead of being listed separately. I've already stared this in Sister Princess (anime), but it should be more consistent across all anime articles. This will lessen the clutter without loosing any information. --TheFarix (Talk) 19:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a plan. I'll keep that in mind in the future. - Phorque 21:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Though if there are no individual descriptions, then just listing them is acceptable until such time as descriptions are added. --日本穣 22:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are going to use a list in the interim, don't put down junk like "School Boy #1 - Joe Voi Sover". That kind of stuff is treading into fancruft territory. --TheFarix (Talk) 03:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

text: That creates a lot of whitespace. --Squilibob 11:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point! Sorry. Made it into one line. - Phorque 12:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally, this template should be used with subst: --TheFarix (Talk) 13:23, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for my n00bness, but how does subst work and how would it improve the template? - Phorque 19:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's best to let this page do the explaining. --TheFarix (Talk) 20:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that it is very handy. When I do this I usually use seiyū instead of voice actor for Japanese seiyū, but meh, substing this would be easier. --Squilibob 15:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, Squilibob and Farix, are you guys saying it's cool but just that everyone should write  into articles? Or should I be changing the template? -Phorque 12:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well look at WP:SUBST and judge for yourself. I think that everyone should be using  for articles and I put that in the usage on the template talk page already. A lot of templates should be subst'd but aren't however.  is like that, for example. I think the template is fine and I will use it if I remember that it exists. --Squilibob 13:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, there is a problem with that. Subst-ing with a "qif" in the template cause the full code of the "qif" to be included which is kinda redundant and space consuming... maybe the solution is to create separate japanese-only and japenese-and-english templates? - Phorque 08:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I always preferred having them at the end of the character description. --TheFarix (Talk) 22:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I really like that table. Another good idea for me to steal --Squilibob 12:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

text: The table looks great! --Siva1979Talk to me 20:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging voice actors into character descriptions 

message: Just wondering if Digimon X-Evolution should be using the animanga infobox or the film infobox. -- Ned Scott 00:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the animanga infobox is set up for films. If that is the case, then go with the film infobox. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I was wrong about the animanga infobox not having a movie component. But which one to use is mostly up to consensus for that article. --TheFarix (Talk) 03:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, I've seen anime movie articles that have used one, and others that use the other.  It would be more consistent I suppose to use the animanga, but the film one is so much more visually pleasing. -- Ned Scott 03:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The animaga infobox is good when you are covering a number of media in one article, which we often do in anime-related articles. However, it is a different story when you're dealing with just one media for the article. Speaking of which, we should consider including a video game component to the animanga infobox. --TheFarix (Talk) 04:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It may be good to make one for live action film and TV drama, too. There are getting to be quite a few with those, as well. --日本穣 06:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can those not be handled by the already existing components of the animanga infobox? --TheFarix (Talk) 11:51, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because none of them are titled "Live action film" or "TV drama". So shows like Densha Otoko, Hiatari Ryōkō! and Maison Ikkoku, which all have one or both of those, don't have anything listed outside of the article itself. --日本穣 01:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Digimon X-Evolution infobox 

message: If you haven't noticed, I gave a huge face lift to the WikiProject page and reorganized some of the information. But there are still some things on the page that I think should be expanded on, such as details on article structure. Please leave any comments or criticism about the new look here. --TheFarix (Talk) 21:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does this keep disappearing? Does the server have something against me today? --TheFarix (Talk) 00:00, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks good. It doesn't seem right to have an example for Infobox Anime convention, especially when there is no example for Infobox Animanga. I've wanted to remove it for a while and now seems like a good time to bring it up. By the way, I'm so sick of that Midori no Hibi fanart >_< --Squilibob 03:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been trying to think of a way to including a basic example of the Infobox Animanga into the main page and leave the rest of the details on the infobox's page. --TheFarix (Talk) 03:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject page facelift 

message: Hi, I didn't know where to mention this, but does it seem to you as if the templates for the anime userboxes were changed somehow? It looks to me as if the anime love/like/dislike faces seem rather...squashed compared to before.
I don't know how to change the templates, and I apologize if this is the wrong place to bring this up. --Tachikoma 23:50, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  do the anime userboxes look odd today? 

message: I'm a bit concerned about the "fan reaction" section in Mahoromatic: it seems more like opinion rather than something that should be in an encyclopedia. Should it be rewritten to be neutral, or removed? Karn-b 16:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it's clearly POV, but some fan reactions, like the ones towards Neon Genesis Evangelion, are actually notable.  Not sure if their reactions are notable (I doubt it is), but you might not want to clear it out completely, as to avoid a revert war.  I would definitely shorten it and then maybe put it under a ==Trivia== heading, and then add . -- Ned Scott 00:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The biggest problem I see with that section is that nothing about the fan reaction is cited. There is also a lot of weasel words in that section as well. --TheFarix (Talk) 03:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely. Although I don't think that the reaction towards Mahoromatic can be compared to the scale we saw with Evangelion, so in this case I don't think it really has a place in the article. I still vote to have it removed, or at least rewritten - in which case will change most of the original content anyway Karn-b 14:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mahoromatic: Article neutrality

message: Please pop in and give an opinion on the recent edits. You can get to the talk page directly here. --日本穣 23:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We really do need some further opinions here. Please come offer your opinion on the debate. Here's a link directly to the topic at hand. Thanks! (^_^) --日本穣 22:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've decided to be a little evil and play the  in this game.  -- Ned Scott 23:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the images themselves? (^_^) If you could pop in on the conversation and share your opinion one way or the other, that would be really helpful, too. It would be nice to see someone outside of me and the other guy in that conversation. (^_^) --日本穣 23:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Typed too soon. Thanks for your comments over there. (^_^) --日本穣 23:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, I hate when jokers like this add images for simple shock value, then argue some anti-censorship thing when you try to tell them it hurts the article more than it helps. -- Ned Scott 06:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hentai]]

message: It seems that the discussion on the WP:BAP page was archived, and they changed the BAP/PUA policy anyway, so I'm continuing the discussion here. Here is my first draft, it's actually the same as the previous, only makes the flower petals stand out more. I think I've solved the problem of those outlines looking out of place, although it doesn't look perfect, so please make suggestions.
For anyone who missed it, the original discussion was here.
:Somehow it seems a bit too red now.  Just my thoughts on it, though others might disagree.--み使い Mitsukai 18:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like this second one a lot. (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 05:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Can this be translated into a SVG? If I'm not mistake, Wikipedia tends to prefer SVGs over the other image formats. --TheFarix (Talk) 12:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lookie at the bottom: Wikipedia:Other awards/Wikiproject. Who will be the first to get one? Shiroi Hane 12:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I can provide the SVG, but IMO this is unnecessary as some browsers still have problems displaying SVG, and the award is both small and won't need to be resized, so PNG is fine. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The problem I have with both of these images is that I think that they are far too red. Sakura's are generally pinkish-white to creamy pink in color. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually depends on the sakura. They range from very pale pink (almost white) to dark pink. There's a whole range.  (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 06:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I based the colors of the original BarnSakura draft quite literally from a sakura petal that I scanned a few years ago, said petal coming from Ueno Park back in 2000.  If you'd like, I can run down the street, get another one and redo it, using those colors.--み使い Mitsukai 18:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Barnsakura (cont.)

message: I think, considering the Manga and Anime BarnSakura is already on the official project awards page, it is important to decide on the final version, or at least the best version out of our current 4, to be named simply BarnSakura.png and be featured on that page.
Original (Draft 1) (Mitsukai)
Draft 2 (Mitsukai)
#Shiroi Hane 21:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote

message: the mascot looks st..., CUTE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lanoo (talk • contribs) .
:I have nothing against Midori, in fact I like Midori and Midori no Hibi but that picture is everywhere. Maybe a anime_mascot.png could be made and changed every few months. --Squilibob 08:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a good one for the project in a cheerleader sort of way. (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 09:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: What about having Midori-chan doing different things or different poses instead? I think Midori is a very good mascot for us. Just think of that Midori no Hibi episde "Takky no hibi", and we've got all the Midori poses and costumes we need. TcDohl 23:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We'd have to get the artist to make several different pics in that case. (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 23:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  short comment 

message: I am having a dispute with some people who consider my article on animenfo.com as spam or advertising (and they are being quite condescendent about it). That website is reffered to in many, MANY anime articles, as a search for animenfo confirms. It is a useful database and review website for the anime scene, and much like imdb.com deserves an article on wikipedia. Similar websites for the equally "unencyclopedic" topic of videogames have large articles, such as gamespot.com, gamespy, etc. If you would like to help, please visit the animenfo.com article and post on the Discussion to help convince people about the usefulness of this article. Beltz 05:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I rewrote it a bit, categorized it, and marked it as a stub. It needs to be expanded some, perhaps with a history of the site, and major changes the site has gone through over time, etc. Keep in mind NPOV, though, as some POV had crept into the article before I rewrote it. Hope that helps! (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 09:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AnimeNfo.com article in danger. 

message: The article Planetes has been nominated to be a good article. Please help to improve this article along the guidelines set by its peer review. 
Thanks! --TcDohl 17:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this article and several others should be featured on the project page as "Example articles". -  13:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Planetes]] under good article nomination 

message: I was wondering if the Kawaii Kon article still qualifies as a stub, since there isn't much information to give on it because it's a relatively young convention.  If it is still a stub, what should be added to it?
Musashi1600 08:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kawaii Kon article a stub? 

message: I think that the infoboxes should also contain the information about the numbers of chapters released, not just the number of volumes. Does anyone else agree? ~ Anonymous contributor, April 21 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.169.161.44 (talk • contribs) .
:Chapters doesn't always tell you how much content was released.  Volume is a bit better, in that a whole volume is usually considered enough of the work to be a sellable product on it's own.  Chapter is less defined as to how much content it has. But you really wanted to, you could just put how many chapters after volume, like "Volumes: 4 (8 chapters)". -- Ned Scott 07:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chapter numbers 

message: who do you think would win in a fight, Monkey D. Luffy or  Goku?
:Leave your opinion on my talk page!
Mr Negoiator, 13:00 April 2006 (UTC)
*Goku, per um... wait a second, this isn't a real poll!, and it's probably not appropriate for this talk page.  Sorry man, but you'll have to leave such discussions on other web sites. -- Ned Scott 03:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I must agree with Ned Scott on this matter. --Siva1979Talk to me 20:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: who would win

message: I asked this about a month ago and didn't get a response.  Does the Kawaii Kon article still qualify as a stub, and if it does, what information should be added?
Musashi1600 07:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kawaii Kon]] article a stub?