Talk:Bearded dragons as pets

message: "" They are quickly gaining popularity and may soon be more common pets than Green Iguanas.  ""
Removed that.
Some source is needed for that, but seems absurd to me. For anything else, the price difference. Green iguanas are sold often as 'disposable pets' ($15USD), plenty of babies are sold but how many people have 6' iguanas?... Iguanas also rear more babies, mating quads (1m3f) you can get 100+ iguanas a year.  Now imagine that you have a ranch. Easy to contain 6' creatures without need of cages, cleaning them, feeding each individual one, etc.
Geckos($5+) also beat the dragon, certainly the breen anole($2+), but also leopard, etc.  Needs to be sourced. My opinion would be geckos and iguanas well above bearded --- heck, collared lizard might even have it beat.  Ease of breeding and number of offspring being the primary factors to cost, which is the primary factor IMO in "common".  
You will also see large regional differences, especially when animals are easily wild-caught relatively close to home. Oogles 03:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal from opening paragraph 

message: Pogona barbata - Common Bearded 
P. henrylawsoni - Rankin's 
P. minima - Western 
P. minor - Dwarf 
P. mitchelli - Northwest Bearded 
P. nullarbor - Nullarbor 
P. microlepitoda 
Pogona vitticeps is the one almost entirely in pet stores and pet trade. Don't really need a 'source' for this, as it's common knowledge. Go to a pet store, look at it. It's Pogona vitticeps prolly.  Just google any bearded dragon site to see that, or try to buy one to see that. 
Oogles 03:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, Quite one thing to take an average person that knows nothing, and to ackowledge that the species in the overwhelming majority in the pet trade is infact pogona vitticeps.  I mean, is this type of source really necessary? Are you saying it's NOT the one in the pet trade?  I acknowledge someone who doesn't have have a clue who looks at it sees "a lizard" (a very wide family/species range).
But this is a talk page. Not the article.
Oogles (talk) 07:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation not needed 

message: In response to copyedit tag, work done on housing section. History Differences Texas Patriot | Talk | Contributions 15:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

message: I redid almost the entire page. Here are my references, but I don't know how to add citations.
http://www.bio.miami.edu/ktosney/file/BDcare.html
http://www.anapsid.org/mainlizards.html
http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html
http://www.dachiu.com/projects.html
http://www.dachiu.com/projects.html
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=17&cat=1796&articleid=2730
http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/
http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/sexing/
Also, someone reverted my edit removing a clearly NOT bearded dragon from the page without giving a reason. Learn your lizards before changing things, please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.142.181.179 (talk) 02:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There. References added. Feel free to add 'citation needed' notes and I will add them if someone else does not. 137.142.181.179 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revamp 

message: I put a 'howto' tag on the article, to indicate that it should not be an instruction on caring for this species. A request to move most of this material to wikibooks should be made by one the contributing editors, it would be a shame if the information was simply removed. cygnis insignis 06:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. When I revamped the article a while ago I hadn't looked at many of the other pet pages on here. Not only is this information not appropriate for the wiki, it should also have been under the specific species name instead of just 'bearded dragon'. Live and learn, I guess. 137.142.181.179 (talk) 14:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The new page is posted at wikibooks here, it needs some improvements. cygnis insignis 23:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try and improve the article too. Crimsonraptor (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[wikibooks]]

message: Added Adenovirus to the list of diseases, However the autolink to the adeno wiki is mostly about the disease overall. If anyone knows more about it, maybe we can colab a page on Adeno in Bearded Dragons?TariStar (talk) 02:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Adenovirus

message: Someone really has to change the romaine lettuce.Any kind of lettuce is not good as it contains mostly water and no nutrients.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theguy666 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but it needs a reference. Ibanix (talk) 05:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok I will find one Theguy666 (talk) 14:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Found it, 6th paragraph ,3rd line. http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/caresheet/?page=3 (This site is great for information on Beardies)Theguy666 (talk) 15:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

text: It could be a good idea. --R O  A  M  A  T  A A | msg  06:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Feeding

message: Ok why is this page, out of all the thousands there are, getting vandanalised on pretty much a daily to weekly basis all of a sudden? Its about a freaking lizard for crying out loud, its hardly the most widespread subject matter. Some people really need to get a life. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: The handling section was written as if this were a blog, so I tried to rewrite it in an appropriate tone for wikipedia. The paragraph needed to be changed so I changed it right away, but I think that its wording can be improved if anyone wants to take a look at it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abusing (talk • contribs) 17:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate tone 

message: I may be wrong, but if I'm not mistaken,  calcium sand is not 'widely' recomended by herpatologists (vets), many breeders, nor the majority of knowledgable owners. At best calcium sand is recomended by petstores (which sell the sand) and are mentioned, but not particularly recomended as a possible substrate in some bearded dragon care books --  
Another matter is the under the tank heater which I removed from the 'lighting and heating' as undertank heaters are not recomended for bearded dragons, as they can cause overhearting (bearded dragons moniter heat through a sensor on their head), and should absolutely not be used with most substrates (even by the packaging of these mats sand is the only viable substrate with the item).  This information comes from beardeddragon.org, as well as from a licensed herpatologist.  The only recomendation I've heard for these under the tank heaters (like the sand)  is the packaging it comes in and the people who sell it. Archaic ritual (talk) 07:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed the part where it says "calcium sand is recomended".  Theguy666 (talk) 21:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct.  It's often recommended by indivudals, perhaps pet stores -- but breeders, vets, or  --  (and it's impossible to include "knowledgable owners" objectively in that -- main issue is calcium intake to the animal.   Unknown if they eat an unknown dose.  (ie: calcium overdose)  Oogles (talk) 03:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recomended?