Talk:Paracelsus

message: "Paracelsus' most important legacy is likely his critique of the scholastic methods in medicine, science and theology. Much of his theoretical work does not withstand modern scientific thought, but his insights laid the foundation for a more dynamic approach in the medical sciences."
We need a source for this. 115.87.52.94 (talk) 10:33, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for this? 

message: Were the words alcohol and zinc indeed coined by him? Aren't they of Arabic origin? Jorge Stolfi 20:38, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding some notes on zinc now. Jamesday 15:22, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Word coinage question

message: I deleted nonsense about his name. Google reveals he didn't have an umlaut "ö". Only four hits use it, all of them in English. Over 5000 hits in German show his name as "Hohenheim". Martg76 23:24, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Höhenheim" 

message: The passage states that Paracelsus is credited with the creation of the terms "chemistry," "gas" and "alcohol." This appears to be a direct quote from the foreword to "The Hermetic Writings of Paracelsus, Vol. I" by A.E. Waite (pg. 6). However, this statement is at odds with two other sources who credit Jan Baptista van Helmont for the introduction of the term gas. The first is from "The History of Chemistry" by Sir Thomas Edward Thorpe (pg. 63) and the second is from an article titled "The Dawn of Science" by T Padmanabhan The Dawn of Science. In addition, I did a word search through both volumes of Waite's translation of Paracelsus's writings, and I didn't find a single mention of the word gas. Does anyone have any further research that might clarify this issue? Jdlawlis (talk) 21:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  coinage of the term "gas" 

message: Had to add significant milestones of his work and life. All of it formulated originally based on Swiss/German sources. I have found that English language sources for Paracelsus are often not exact enough and do not separate historical fact from fiction (but I gave some nevertheless). His travels to Asia and Africa are absolutely unproven. It is unlikely that he reached that far but rather was in contact with knowledge maybe transferred through invading armies from the East. What was not mentioned but can be historically verified, is his contact with Erasmus von Rotterdam and Frobenius. That this was not mentioned in his biography was shocking to me. Also, he was very much a folk oriented academic, also with social consequences when he once allied himself with rebellious farmers. He consulted controversial healers at the time, witches, women. That will be added when I have found correct sources. However, the comparison with Luther is indeed a bit sketchy. He was free enough to see Luther's constraints and of course he must have been negatively impressed by the already bloody battles that were fought in the name of religious denominations. In contrast to Luther, P. was a pure humanist and actually a reformed catholic rather than a protestant. Of course, this should not add to the schism of today but it is worthy of reflection. To what extend his contributions had impact on a social level, is very well discussed in the German edition. But nothing I have written was translated word by word. I am an adherent of his philosophies in as far we need to find new combinations, and to merely translate the sources does not serve a purpose. Jung's work on P. is also highly interesting because C.G. Jung studied original texts; a link to his book was therefore imperative. In my opinion, the picture of P. should also be changed. The current image is a romantic depiction of his appearance. There are indeed prints of his time that would reflect his looks in a more realistic way. The bust or statue respectively illustrated herein, which stand in his birthplace in Einsiedeln and Salzburg, are based on this original print. He was certainly not part of the noblesse, even though his name does imply that.  Osterluzei (talk) 14:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Significant additions

message: This article seems heavily dependent upon detractors and documents written by people who based their descriptions upon those of detractors. Some seem to be poor translations from German. For example, who called him a "habitual drinker"? What was the original reality that got turned into that English phrase in the article, when everyone still drank alcoholic beverages frequently because they were often safer than water? Was the original accusation more accurately along the lines that he was a drunkard or drank to excess? Should "soon garnered the anger of other physicians" and "gained a reputation for being arrogant" be inverted as to which came first? The very notion of relying on observation as opposed to book knowledge would have gained him that. There is less emphasis on the things he got right than the things his detractors said about him which is also given way too much credit as to its veracity. Hackwrench (talk) 01:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dependence upon detractors 

message: Several etymologies give him as the origin of the word 'bombast', after the middle name of a title of his. Anything to it? 86.128.125.209 (talk) 11:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This is most probably wrong. "bombast" means "cotton padding", and "bombastic" came to mean "stuffed" or "inflated" in the 18th century. Paracelsus was never known as "Bombastus". His surname was "Bombastus von Hohenheim", but he mostly just used "von Hohenheim" and the full name would have had little currency, if any, in England, where he was simply known as Paracelsus. German bombastisch is a loan from 18th-century English and has nothing to do with Paracelsus. --dab (𒁳) 07:16, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Bombast

message: The revisions of the last two years have been excellent. There were some genuine, academic entries made that are very well placed, and referring to the sources even with his obvious statement "the dose makes the poison" from his 3rd defense. I allowed myself to place a genuine prescription in original for people to enjoy, but please don't try it on yourself, clinical trials at the time were very spotty and much influenced by the "bombast" of the physician. Also could someone mention the "homunculus" that was also used first by him to describe the artificial human at the time? (73.96.63.246 (talk) 00:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excellent revisions 

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message: There is a discrepancy between the english and german version of this article.
The english claims his full name to be "Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim", while the german site calls it a misnomer "fälschlich auch Philippus Theophrastus Aureolus Bombastus von Hohenheim genannt" (fälschlich = wrongly).
I suspect the german Wiki to have more credibility regarding persons of german (also swiss) origin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:EB61:A700:C020:3521:FB9A:F629 (talk) 11:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full name discrepancy in different languages 

message: Changed He settled in Salzburg in 1524 but had to leave in the following year due to his support of the German Peasants' War. In 1525, he was active at the University of Freiburg.[citation needed] to After visiting his father at Villach and finsing no local opportunity to practise, he settled in Salzburg in 1524. Since 1519/20 he had been working on his first medical writings, and he now completed Elf Tarktat and Volumen medicinae Paramirum, which describe eleven common maladies and their treatment and his early medical principles. In the following year, he had to leave to support the the German Peasants' War. In 1525, he was active at the University of Freiburg.[citation needed]. I think the paragpah has a flow of why he settled and what he did before he went to the war.
Kp3td (talk) 16:46, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Paracelsus early career 

message: I am adding some information about his views on the elements:
He often viewed fire as the Firmament that sat between air and water in the heavens. Paracelsus often uses an egg to help describe the elements. In his early model he claimed that air surrounded the world like an egg shell. The next element in his egg analogy is fire. Fire has a type of chaos to it that allows it to hold up earth and water, and this makes it like the egg white beneath the shell. The earth and water make up a globe which, in terms of the egg, is the yolk. In De Meteoris,Paracelsus says that the firmament is the heavens. He changes the way he thinks of the elements as his life goes on. AshleyPruett18 (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing Philosophy

message: Why in the second sentence do we say what he is not regarded as?--Jack Upland (talk) 09:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not? 

message: Borzelleca F. J. Toxicological Sciences, January 2000, Volume 53, Issue 1, Pages 2-4.
    Pagel W., Parcelsus: An Introduction to Philosophical Medicine in the Era of the Renaissance, December 1982, Pages 54-57.
    Jacobi J., Paracelsus - Selected Writings, 1995, Princeton University Press, Pages 71-73.
    Hanegraaf W., Paracelsus (Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, 1493-1541), December 2007, Brill, Pages 509-511.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KSAN1417 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography for my contribution 

message: Britannica and other sources have his birth at 11 November or 17 December 1493. Any reason why we don't show this information? --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 09:06, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There are many conflicting reports on his birth date. For example the Oxford University Press  has his birth at 10 or 14 November 1493. Pagel (1958) says he was born in “in the last third of 1493”  while Schaller (1993) give his birth date at “November 1493 (or 1494, or 1490 or 1491” . I believe that a note would be more appropriate. Deji Olajide1999 (talk) 11:59, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, thanks for that. --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth date

message: Didn't Paracelsus credit some of his discoveries to others or was that someone else? LostInHistoria (talk) 16:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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