Talk:Cleveland, Yorkshire

message: The original 'Cleveland' in the North Riding of Yorkshire extended much further south. The upshot of this is that there are some addresses in what is now North Yorkshire that claim to be 'Cleveland, North Yorkshire'. Deserves a mention.GordyB 13:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleveland in North Yorkshire

message: This is one of the most confusing articles I've read on Wikipedia. There should be two articles namely: 
* Cleveland County
* Cleveland in Yorkshire, geography and history
Hartlepool, Billingham and Stockton residents would find it hard to be included in an article describing ancient Cleveland, the land of Cliffs. 
The, now defunct, County of Cleveland article would include its four districts and the goings on of local government and business.
The Cleveland in Yorkshire article would include the history and geography of the area south of the River Tees - perhaps to Whitby. It would include the history of the abbeys and industries, such as ironstone and alum mining.
Francis Hannaway 17:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The changing boundaries over time are always a problem, but that is no reason for splitting an article and creating articles which cover different time periods. Other articles have similar difficult problems such as the East Riding of Yorkshire which covers the original riding, the new county that is now in existence and the ceremonial county which includes Hull. Keith D (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Clevelands 

message: Duke of Cleveland refers to Cleveland, and points to this article, but that's wrong, since this didn't exist before 1974. So where is the article on medival Cleveland? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval Cleveland? 

message: Substituted at 11:54, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: In the past week I have morphed this article into a geographic article due to it being a geographic name used for politics. I plan to rename or redirect it with the Lower Teesdale name to match it with Upper Teesdale, of which I might need help. 
This juggling between type of article has been brought up on this talk page before and I have acted to make sure clarity is made. The heritage Teesdale name should not be forgot and replaced with southern terminology. Chocolateediter (talk) 16:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political to Geographic article 

message: Should Cleveland, England be renamed Cleveland, Yorkshire or Cleveland, North Yorkshire to emphasise that this article covers a historic area only in Yorkshire rather than county that was made from the North Riding and Durham county. Chocolateediter (talk) 01:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Lets not confuse things while we have a discussion in place at Talk:County Cleveland. Keith D (talk) 13:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved to Cleveland, Yorkshire. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 20:31, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Cleveland, England → ? – discussing Cleveland (county) re-merging ended as declined, I would to request a move from ‘’Cleveland, England to ‘’Cleveland, Yorkshire or ‘’Cleveland, North Yorkshire. The article is about an area purely in North Yorkshire/Yorkshire and better disambiguates between this article and Cleveland (county), the county’s former area presently crosses North Yorkshire and Durham. This Cleveland predates North Yorkshire county by a long stretch, so “Cleveland,Yorkshire” is my preference. Chocolateediter (talk) 17:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 March 2021