Talk:Nona Gaprindashvili

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message: Does anybody know Gaprindashvili's paternym, for inclusion here?  Trekphiler 03:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that patronyms are appropriate for native Georgians. In Russia they insert "Terentievna" to make her name conform to the Russian pattern but I don't think we should do that on the English wikipedia. MaxBrowne (talk) 02:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
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She was awarded the Grandmaster title on the basis of having won the Women's World Championship, under a rule similar to the one that granted the Grandmaster title to the winner of the World Junior Championship event.
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This is not correct.  She was awarded the Grandmaster Title through the regular norm system.  However, some discretion was used in her case.  The requirements involved achieving certain results in events totalling at least 24 games.  She had the results, but was a bit short in overall games.  They exercised discretionary powers, and gave her the title anyway, as is done from time to time.  I've heard (but can't positively confirm) that Mednis got his title the same way that year.
Here's the way Pal Benko tells it on page 15 of the January 1979 issue of Chess Life & Review:
...Of course [Nona] had earned the "woman grandmaster" title awarded by the International Chess Federation (FIDE), as have some two dozen other women. But she also earned the (men's) international master title, becoming the first woman ever to have done so (Vera Menchik was probably strong enough to have earned this title, but she died in 1943 [sic], long before the modern title system was adopted), and in Buenos Aires in November 1978 FIDE bestowed upon Nona Gaprindashvili the (men's) international grandmaster title. Not only is she the only woman ever to have received this title, she is the only woman ever to have deserved it.
It is regrettable, therefore, that she did not actually earn the title in the regular way: FIDE requires that to earn the grandmaster title a player must achieve certain minimum scores in tournaments consisting of at least twenty-four games in aggregate (the description is highly oversimplified, but you get the idea), and Nona was two or three games short. Yet the FIDE Qualifications Commission voted to give her the title. In my opinion, this historic occasion should not have been allowed to carry even this slight tarnish.
22:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So when did the Women's World Chess Champion automatically earn the GM title? Perhaps we can answer that by determining when, and on what basis, Maia Chiburdanidze earned the title. Peter Ballard 00:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I've corrected the Gaprindashvili article, using the Benko quote. Not sure what to do about the Chiburdanidze article. I could quote chessgames; the problem is chessgames also relies on volunteers and isn't inherently better than Wikipedia (though in the case of the 1984 date for Chiburdanidze's GM title, I suspect chessgames is right). Peter Ballard 03:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Jeremy Gaige's Chess Personalia confirms that Chiburdanidze received the GM title in 1984.  This is generally considered an accurate source of chess biographical info. Quale 03:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming you've got that book with you. Would you mind going to the Maia Chiburdanidze and adding that reference, with page number if possible? Peter Ballard 03:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be glad to.  I intend to go through some of our bios and double check dates against Gaige, also checking and or adding places of birth and death as appropriate. Quale 06:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Gaige says (p132) "GM 1980"
RayJohnstone (talk) 03:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gaige and Nona Gaprindashvili

message: I removed the In Popular Culture section. It's only entry was The Queen's Gambit. However, not only isn't Gaprindashvili featured, it's only a mention in passing, and to top it off, it's basically an insult. I don't consider it a proper use of "In Popular Culture", where you expect links to works that focus on the article subject. Instead I'll repurpose the text for the main section. CapnZapp (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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message: WP:NOTNEWS warns against describing every twist and turn in the ongoing lawsuit in the Wikipedia biography of Gaprindashvili:   While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion and Wikipedia is not written in news style. For example, routine news reporting of announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia.
The recent decision by a judge to allow the lawsuit to proceed looks to me like an example of what not to cover.  When the lawsuit is over (dismissed, settled, or decided), then it will be time to summarize it.  Bruce leverett (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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