Talk:Torsion bar suspension

message: Current article statement: 
A disadvantage of the torsion bar suspension used in Tiger and Panther tanks (and many other WWII-era tanks and other AFVs, including the T-34) ....
Just refer to the linked T34 article itself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.205.82 (talk) 20:00, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The T34 used Christie suspension not torsion bar

message: I've seen the automotive torsion bar credited to Stephen L. Coleman (Frederickton, NB) on 22 April 1919. Comment? Worth a mention? Trekphiler 05:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you.  Also, in case it comes up, torsion bars are different from torsion springs, which are different in a number of respects, including having a coiled geometry.  I recommend changing the name of this page to 'torsion bar suspension' and creating a stub for a 'torsion bar' page to contain information about the spring type. At minimum, a disambiguation page should exist, but that seems like an inferior solution.Jim Lipsey 20:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed now, by Flash176, ta. Greg Locock (talk) 05:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: in that it needs sections, and a diagram would be extremely useful. --jazzle 14:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs Wikification 

message: It's stated that:
The Czechoslovakian Tatra cars designed by Professor Hans Ledwinka in the mid-1930s used all round independent torsion bar suspension, along with air cooled rear engines.
The early rear-engined Tatras employed twin transverse leaf springs in front suspension and one transverse (T77), or two diagonally mounted (T87) leaf springs in the rear, but obviously not torsion bars... earlier Tatras with front engine - rear wheel drive layout also appear to have transverse leaf springs rather then anything else (may be I'm wrong). 
Also herr Porsche used torsion bars in his tank suspension designs, not only in cars.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.79.19.180 (talk) 08:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tatras 

message: < Perhaps the biggest advantage to the driver is that torsion bars have no bounce- they simply deform and then return to zero.[citation needed] Coil springs have bounce that has to be damped out by the shock absorber >
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86.176.163.224 (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbelievable! 

message: The article is just not right.
The golf Mk III is NOT using torsion bar springs for its suspension.
It uses coil over shocks on a compound axle.
IF we must go the car route, then go for the peugeot 306/405/106 and so on.
They all use trailing arm + torsion springs.
or perhaps an old vw bettle.
But this is just not true  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.184.144.169 (talk) 07:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simply not true 

message: Should this be merged with the Twist-Beam Suspension article?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twist-beam_rear_suspension  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.27.246 (talk) 03:31, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: Hi, I was reading about formula 1 cars and learned that they are all using torsion bar suspension. I thought this was pretty significant given that the article only lists trucks, tanks, and older cars as users! http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/torsion_bar.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.43.166 (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible additions: 

message: I think I understand, from reading the Torsion Bar suspension page, that torsion bars are twisting "L" shapes, because of the "torsion key" component.
I suppose that a torsion beam has a "t" shaped central bar, that twists, as well as rising and falling? That ambiguity is the reason readers would benefit from a picture.
Infodater (talk) 16:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twisting "T", instead of twisting L's? 

message: While this article notes that a torsion bar differs from a spring in its recoil rate, it is wishful thinking to assume that a torsion bar is linear, without enumerating that point. What should readers infer? Infodater (talk) 16:10, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't quite understand your post, but so far as I can tell the article makes no claims about a recoil rate, whatever that is. You can make a coil spring get progressively stiffer in one /direction/. A torsion spring is linear in itself, although details of the linkage used may change the effect on wheel rate. Greglocock (talk) 23:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linear spring rate is a noteworthy characteristic - is torsion bar linear? 

message: Hello, the current article fails to explain or even mention why railways do NOT use the torsion bar suspension - even though the weight of freight wagons and locomotives are quite comparable to heavy battle tanks, like the Konigtiger or M1 Abrams.
It seems trains use leaf springs (older freight wagons and steam locomotives), coil springs (pax carriages and diesel / electric locomotives) or pneumatic suspension (for modern EMU trainsets), but torsion bar tech is completely alien to them? 80.99.11.157 (talk) 21:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no torsion bar suspension in railway use anywhere?