Talk:List of Microsoft codenames

message: Does Wikipedia really need this? Lists of Microsoft codenames have been done before, and most of the time, in a more complete way. So, is this worthy of an encyclopedia?
--82.135.12.44 04:59, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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message: Do not second-guess the intentions of this article. You write the article, not the other way around. Please do NOT, ever again:
*mutilate the historical Windows NT timeline by removing the Windows 2000 entry, despite its lack of a codename. It must be included because it has no codename, an anomaly that warrants an explaination. The table will look incomplete otherwise and prompt people to readd the entry. I can't believe I have to explain this
*remove major entries because they lack a codename. I will just, e.g., move "COM+ Runtime" into the codename column, because it only appeared in internal source code, the product was never announced as such. Why waste my time?
*forget that this is the only Wikipedia article where internal names for Microsoft products are discussed. If you remove related information from this page, it is lost forever
The article title is not policy. It used to be just "Microsoft codenames". Some nitpicker decided this was a list, and moved it. It won't take a lot to put together some accompanying blurbs to the tables, what will you do then? remove them because this is just a "list"? (… and yet, in my heart I know someone will)
Please let it rest. I cannot believe anyone could be deleting legitimate entries from this page
--KJK::Hyperion 02:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATTENTION NITPICKERS 

message: I believe this sentence is in error:
The Windows line has been since dropped altogether, and Windows NT operating systems are now simply referred to as "Windows".
Perhaps it should read "The Windows NT line..."?
:Nope. The "Windows line" refered to is that of the MS-DOS based Windows 3.x, 95, etc. Although, from a consumer point of view, Windows 2000 and XP represent a "coming together" of this and Windows NT, they are in a technical sense almost exclusively a continuation of the NT line. In other words, the Windows brand continued, but it's the NT technology that now carries it. - IMSoP 23:13, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error? 

message: Codenames from this http://www.bitzenbytes.com/Content-Arcanum-18-1-61.html source could be added.
If not add Mira, the now shelved Windows Smart Display codename.
:Hmmm... I really like the source in the table... might add this to the tables sometime. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: Microsoft needs to just start releasing their products under their codenames...scrolling through the list, most of these are pretty badass. Xizer 01:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, especially considering their official names are so lame. And they're not even consistent, I mean: 98, ME, 2000, XP, 2003 - what a mess. I personally think they should've better leave out those two-letter-codes, it would be better if they used years all the time. And the meanings of those... ME - "Millenium Edition"... yuck! :) And XP... as I understand, it was supposed to stand for "experience", which is yuck too, but I'd also say it's actually incorrect. Yes it might be eXPerience, but i think the original meaning of XP as 'experience' was from the gaming term which is actually short from 'eXperience Points' :) --Arny 07:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Damn, Microsoft codenames are cool 

message: To be honest, I'm still not sure whether Cairo is NT4.0, NT5.0, both or neither... --Arny 15:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: NT4, but Cairo was actually abandonded as a codename.  Jim Allchin refers to it now as a group of "concepts". Every new Windows release since then has contained something he originally hoped for in Cairo. SchmuckyTheCat 16:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  wasn't Cairo used for XP? because it draws sounds from the two greek letters chi and roe, with the symbols X and P! if is this is not true i will be very upset, as that has just got to be the best codename ever! mastodon 16:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: XP stole ideas from the Cairo "vision" but XP was never referred to as Cairo. SchmuckyTheCat 18:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I still think I remember that upcoming NT 5.0 was advertised as "Cairo" in magazines. It was finally released as Windows 2000. Arny 07:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Windows 2000 never had a codename.  This is mentioned in the Windows 2000 article. Aluvus 12:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cairo 

message: where is Singularity?
Muzzle 08:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just another MSR project - not a product. SchmuckyTheCat 18:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singularity 

message: I was viewing the source for the documentation of BeginPaint and the line VENUS_START caught my eye. I did some searching and came up with this page which mentions other codenames as well. Hackwrench 17:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venus 

message: Should LINQ even make the list?  It seems more like a specific feature than an overall product...
atanamir 05:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a source that describes "LINQ" as a codename, then by all means be bold and add it in!  I think it might be an acronym, though, for "Language Integrated Query" or somesuch.  Warrens 05:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  LINQ 

message: How about putting the build numbers in as well?  Make it a bit more complete...  I will do it if no one else does. --203.118.135.21 11:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microsoft Build Numbers 

message: What about Office codenames? Ones for Flight Simulator and other games? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 05:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Office 

message: The Comes v. Microsoft suit (and probably others as well) have revealed quite a lot internal Microsoft documents and e-mail. Together with the proceeding transcripts, where Microsoft is often asked what certain code names refer to, would make great reliable sources for this article. A lot is this in now publicly available on the Internet (e.g. http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/). —Ruud 01:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comes v. Microsoft 

message: No double-knot spy codename for Microsoft Bob?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.133.8.2 (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Bob's codename was "Utopia". It also contains an "UTOPIA.dll". Source: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.07.windowsconfidential.aspx (a site hosted on microsoft.com should be confident enough for a Wikipedia article)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.51.160.8 (talk) 23:20, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob? 

message: Having worked through adding citations for the Windows O/S codenames, I have found these sites to be largely unreliable and inaccurate when it comes to the less well known names. Since their value was marginal at best beforehand, I have removed them all. wjematherbigissue 21:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You deleted MSDN as "personal websites and blog type sites". Accordingly I've reverted it. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:15, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The msdn "mirror" adds nothing to this article that cannot and is not already referenced from other sources. It may have value on other articles but we are only concerned with codenames here, not o/s development. Also you offered no explaination as to why the other links were restored, which are of absolutely no value as explained. None of these links should be here per WP:EL. wjematherbigissue 23:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: The article is Code name not Codename. Shouldn't this article be List of Microsoft code names instead of List of Microsoft codenames? — Pan·da·mo·ni·a 23:43, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it shouldn't. Both spellings of the word is used across the globe and is correct. (American English has a tendency to connect words to create compound ones.) Furthermore, conversion between dialects of English in Wikipedia is not allowed except when the purpose is to unify the style in the entire article. For more info, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of_English. Fleet Command (talk) 06:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Microsoft code names? 

message: Are we sure this was the codename for Windows 98 - and that Windows 95 OSR was Detroit?  If you take a Windows 95 OSR boot disc, or CD image of one, and before running any EXEs take a look at 1883:0018-0058 What you get is:
Microsoft (R) Memphis
     (C)Copyright, Microsoft Corp 1981-1996.
while this is not obvious on an image of the disc, if you assemble: (mov ax,2
int 10h 
mov es,1883h
mov bp,18h
mov cx,40h
mov ax,1301h
mov bx,7
xor dx,dx
int 10h
int 20h) into a com file it's there for anyone to find.  
Jethro 82 (talk) 01:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Codename Memphis 

message: Someone incorrectly added Zurich as a codename for Windows 8, but it was promptly removed. In fact, Zurich seems to have been the codename for some cloud .NET utility services which are included in Azure. See ZDNet 24 July 2008, ZDNet 27 October 2008, ZDNet 23 June 2008. Razvan Socol (talk) 07:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, . "Zurich" is already in the article along with "Red Dog". But thanks for the sources given. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 00:16, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Codename Zurich 

message: The table for the Windows NT family breaks on the right side at Impala and Quebec. I'm not as experienced and I cannot find the problem so I'm advising on someone fixing it.
Thanks  C.Goodings 17:17, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table Breaks 

message: Please add  the preliminary name of Durango was Xbox 720
72.73.112.104 (talk) 14:45, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:59, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: I was going to type something here, but I can't really add anything to the subhed ... richi (hello) 11:41, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Bueller, Bueller? ... richi (hello) 23:03, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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message: There is a new codename for Windows XP Media Center 2004, which is Bobsled. Gabegriggs1 (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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message: I cant find windows 1 codename  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.206.97 (talk) 12:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  why tho 

message: The code names "Blackcomb" and "Vienna" are not accurate.
Please see this blog of a Microsoft employee for more information:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20190722-00/?p=102724
--Blackdrake (talk) 21:13, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows 7 codenames