Talk:Rhythm and blues

message: In 1948, RCA Victor was marketing black music under the name "Blues and Rhythm". ...In 1949, the term "Rhythm and Blues" replaced the Billboard category Harlem Hit Parade.
don't have a source but it goes sth like this:  term "Blues and Rhythm" was coined in 1948 by RCA to replace "race records". In 1949 Jerry Wexler of Atlantic Records switched it to Rhythm and Blues and thought it sounded better. Atlantic was by far the biggest producer of records for blacks, RCA was behind them and a dozen indie labels that made records for black people, like King and Specialty and Chess and Federal and DeLuxe and Decca and sooo many others. They all grouped together and used the Atlantic Records term, and forgot RCA term, and in June of 1949 Billboard changed their list name. everybody thought RCA was for squares (whites) anyway. If a source could be found it would be great.Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 17:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think what is in the article is adequately sourced, but yes, if you want to add this other stuff it needs a good source.  Picardie & Wade's "Atlantic and the Godfathers of Rock and Roll" will not be the one. Carptrash (talk) 18:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  name change context 

message: Is there a difference between this and Contemporary R&B?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.54.195.214 (talk) 17:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Contemporary "R&B" is a smooth, syrupy type of electronic pop that isn't bluesy at all. I don't know how it came to be called R&B, because there seems to be no relationship between the two styles. MrDemeanour (talk) 17:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contemporary and Regular 

message: Isn't soul music a subgenre of R&B? GogoLion (talk) 12:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soul music 2 

message: I've removed mentions in the lead paragraphs of UK bands like Jimmy James and the Vagabonds, Geno Washington, Carl Douglas, and Hot Chocolate - although they all had some importance in the UK, it was relatively minor in the overall scheme of things, and Douglas and Hot Chocolate were primarily seen as pop musicians rather than R&B in any case.  I've also removed mention of how the Who were promoted as "Maximum R&B" - again, it's an almost trivial fact in the context of R&B music as a whole.  I'm still uncomfortable about the only bands being named in the lead being (white) British ones - they could and probably should be removed as well, but I'll wait and see if there are any more comments here first.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree. Per WP:LEAD the lead should summarize the article. If we mention musicians in the lead, it should be the ones who get the most coverage in the article. That would be Louis Jordan, Fats Domino, maybe Bo Diddley, Johnny Otis, Ruth Brown, Little Richard and some of the others who get at least a paragraph in the History section. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Re-reading that paragraph, it seemed bizarre (and arguably racist) that we should be naming any of those 60s British bands in the lead, when we do not give similar prominence there to any of the US performers who created and defined the genre.  I've removed them.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:55, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  British bands in the lead paragraphs 

message: "It referred to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music." and I am not really comfortable with Soul music being here.  R&B was pretty well going along when soul arrives and although there is a lot of overlap to state that R&R "developed from" soul is, in my opinion, misleading. Carptrash (talk) 20:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the lede we find 

message: R&b music when it first began 41.116.44.251 (talk) 16:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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