Talk:Eridu Genesis

message: I removed the "translation" of the name Zi-ud-sura, because I coudn't find a reference for it anywhere. Feel free to put it back if a reliable source for it is found.
Sumerophile (talk) 23:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of the name Zi-ud-sura 

message: Where does the text say that An, Enlil, Enki and Ninḫursaĝa create the Sumerians? It is said in segment A of ETCLS translation they "had fashioned the black-headed people", i.e. the black race of Africa for the purpose of using them as work force. The gods didn't even create anyone of anything. 62.33.188.17 (talk) 19:22, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, Are you interest in the Annunakis topic, I would appreciate if we can discuss about it Dracolison (talk) 16:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

text: I wish the article actually told the story of creation, especially if there is a part where it mentions being made out of CLAY. After all, that's what the title indicates the article will be about, the story of creation. Misty MH (talk) 10:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Thanks! Which editor provided this information? Misty MH (talk) 02:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation of Sumerian people 

message: I removed (reverted) a series of changes made a few days ago by an anonymous editor, as the summary offered bore no resemblance to the text (as linked at the bottom of the article). However, I do invite anyone who is more familiar with the topic to review the changes I have made. 69.59.120.202 (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting questionable changes 

message: So if this is labeled as a myth, we should change any page relating to the Bible to the Christian creation myth, as it is just as it is of the same nature.
:I'm not aware of any controversy in literature over this being labelled a myth.  A great deal of debate and controversy has been published over the years on whether the Bible meets the floating definition of "myth", but this actually isn't the page to propose anything for those affected wikiprojects. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 18:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labeling of myth 

message: I noticed that someone had deleted a reference to the "Biblical flood" without giving a reason, and was about to either undo or change it when I noticed that someone else had beat me to it. I then noticed that the "Biblical flood" link was going to a Noah's Ark article instead of to the Genesis flood narrative. So I just now changed the Undone version to that. (Maybe also including a link to the Noah's Ark article wouldn't hurt.) However, since I have not read the various myths and narratives in their entirety or compared the similarities and differences (or compared the articles, for that matter), I don't know whether the flood stories have "many similarities" or not. My change from Noah's Ark reference to the "Genesis flood narrative" is as follows: 
Two flood myths with many similarities to the Sumerian story are the Utnapishtim episode in the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Genesis flood narrative found in the Bible. The ancient Greeks also had a very similar flood legend.
If it is challenged that there are NOT many similarities with the Genesis flood narrative – again, I don't know – then the following would seem like an acceptable change: 
A flood myth with many similarities to the Sumerian story is the Utnapishtim episode in the Epic of Gilgamesh. The ancient Greeks also had a very similar flood legend. And the Genesis flood narrative, found in the Bible, tells of a massive flood.
I thought I read a comparison of similarities and differences somewhere, maybe even on Wikipedia, but I didn't go looking for such, or check any of the article's internal or external links.
Cheers!
Misty MH (talk) 02:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The parallels between the Utnapishtim story and the Noah story are even more than many - it's almost line for line. Have alook at the Genesis flood narrative article, the bibliography, and get some of the books there. The Genesis creation narrative article also has a good bibliography. If you're feeling energetic you could look into upgrading this article. PiCo (talk) 04:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparisons of flood narratives and "myths" 

message: Who excavated this tablet?  When?
71.163.114.49 (talk) 10:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing info 

message: I would like to propose that we move this article to Eridu Genesis or something else which identifies it more precisely.  When scholars talk about "The Sumerian Creation myth" it seems to me that they are just as likely to be talking about a collation of the various Sumerian creation myths, or even about the presumed Sumerian precursor of the Enûma Eliš (see e.g. here) as they are about this specific text.  The indefinite article is often used in the literature before the phrase "Sumerian creation myth," indicating that scholars assume the existence of more than one.  As this is but one example of a Sumerian creation myth I think it prioritizes it over the other known myths, already listed in this article, to title it in a way that suggests that it's THE Sumerian creation myth.  I'm absolutely not wedded to calling it Eridu Genesis, although that is a super common name in the literature.  I would just like it to be called something more specific than it currently is.  As this may be uncontroversial, I am proposing it informally first.  Thanks for your consideration.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 13:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A very good idea. This has bothered me at times but I never got around to suggesting a move. Dougweller (talk) 14:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support a move to Eridu Genesis. —Srnec (talk) 17:24, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems reasonable to me ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informal move discussion 

message: "It is written in the Sumerian language and dated to around 1600 BC during the first Babylonian dynasty, where the language of writing and administration was still Sumerian."
The very sentence includes a link to "First Babylonian Dynasty", where the First Babylonian Dynasty is dated as starting 1830.
1600 is more like the END of Babylonia.
But anyway, where does the 1600 (or any) date for this document come from?
The Nippur page dates the arrival of Akkadians as "late in the 3rd millennium BC", so who says the tablet does not date from much earlier?
Either a reference for the date should be given, or the date should be eliminated. I'll do it if no one gives a reason not to. User: Hawa-Ave   — Preceding undated comment added 23:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  1600 Date wrong? 

message: Just that. 71.23.209.131 (talk) 11:00, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article seems to deal mainly with a flood story, NOT a creation story as the article title implies 

message: — Assignment last updated by Rockethound (talk) 22:02, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology