Talk:Jupiter Inlet Light

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message: I'm not sure why the current article is named the Jupiter Inlet Light. I'm unable to find any sources that call it a "light" as opposed to a lighthouse. In addition to the common name, the official name with the NRHP also seems to be the Jupiter Inlet Lighthouse. If someone could supply a reason why it was named "light" in the first place, I'd be interested to hear it. Ergo Sum  01:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This article, like many others about navigational lights, was named 'Light' rather than 'lighthouse' because the U.S. Coast Guard called them 'lights'. Another reason is that a given navigational light might have been housed in more than one structure over the years. Consider the history of the :Cape San Blas Light. The first three towers holding the light were destroyed, and the fourth, an iron open frame-work tower, was relocated twice. Other lights in Florida that were housed in more than one structure in their history are the :Sand Key Light, the :Key West Light, the :Cape St. George Light, the :Dog Island Light, the :Pensacola Light, the :Ponce de Leon Inlet Light, the :St. Augustine Light, and the :St. Marks Light. The :Egmont Key Light was moved and rebuilt on a new site. There is good reason to distinguish the navigational aid (the 'light') from the structure(s) holding it up (the 'lighthouse'). There was a discussion about the naming back in 2005, but I'm having a problem finding where it occurred. With this diff you can see that in 2009 all the articles about lights in Florida used 'light' instead of 'lighthouse' in the title (and still do). I would suggest that if you want to move Jupiter Inlet Light to Jupiter Inlet lighthouse, you should start a general discussion on the naming of the 46 articles at :List of lighthouses in Florida - Donald Albury 02:19, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

text: The Coast Guard Light List refers to the Jupiter Inlet Light on page 5 (after the introductory material). The Coast Guard used to have history for each light, referring to them as 'Lights', the Coast Guard restructure their web site every few years, and I can't find those histories right now. - Donald Albury 02:31, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for the explanation. Lighthouses are most certainly not within my area of expertise, so I will leave any potential future mass-renamings up to someone more familiar with the matter. Cheers, Ergo Sum  02:42, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

text:  We go by WP:COMMONNAME though, "Jupiter Inlet Light" does not even appear in books according to this:  Ngram. We had a similar discussion over at Talk:Bodie Island Lighthouse#Requested move. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:54, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said to Ergo Sum, a discussion on moving this article should include the other 40 articles on lights/lighthouses in Florida, all which are named as 'Lights'. For various reasons, I won't oppose the move, but I won't open the discussion. - Donald Albury 18:19, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

text: From the point of view of mariners and the Coast Guard, these are lights – they don't care about the structure.  But per WP:COMMONNAME, some (many?) of these, including this one, should be at "Lighthouse". Dicklyon (talk) 12:59, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I see a number of web sites that use both "lighthouse" and "light" to refer to the Jupiter Inlet structure. I think now that I am less concerned about the specific title of an article, as long as we indicate that both "light" and "lighthouse" have been used, with "light" to referring the navigational aid and "lighthouse" referring to the structure. - Donald Albury 14:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes,  a number use "Light", but "Lighthouse" is so much more common that it would be our normal title choice, per [WP:COMMONNAME]]. And yes, mentioning Light also is good. Dicklyon (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move to Jupiter Inlet Lighthouse