Talk:Hohenstaufen

message: I came here because I expected the wrong map at the HRE page was based on something. And apparently it is based on the map posted here. What's wrong with it?
1) It shows TK in Prussia as part of HRE. It was not.
2) It shows Pomerelia (Eastern Pomerania, West Prussia) as part of HRE. It was not. It wasn't even a separate duchy of full rights. It was part of Kingdom of Poland in any case, and it is shown as outside of HRE.
3) Silesia is shown as part of HRE. It was not more so at this point than other parts of Poland. And it remained part of Kingdom of Poland until late into 14th century, when it was officially transfered to Bohemia. It is true that HRE intervened and forced returning Silesia to its previous ruler. But it didn't make Silesia more HRE-ish than rest of Poland, which was forced to acknowledge the emperor's overlodship at this point. So either all Poland should be part of HRE at this point, or none of it (apart from West Pomerania, which is a separate bit).
4) Lebusland (a small area on both sides of Oder river with Lebus / Lubusz being its capital) was not part of Brandenburg at this point. In fact, none of Neumark was. It only became part of Brandenburg in 13th century. In fact, the map shows the 14th century border I think.
5) The map shows absurd border of Silesia, where the border rightly includes the areas that were later incorporated back into Minor Poland... apart from the mountain areas, which, somehow, are shown as a Polish penisula. This bit was part of Silesia at this time.
6) The Polish southern border is shown as it was later on. I will not even comment on eastern border.
7) It shows Żuławy (Vistula delta) region as part of Prussia. It was not. Also, it didn't exist at this point. It was still mostly sea at this point.
I see other mistakes, anachronisms etc. But I would have to check to confirm them. Please find a better map or just remove this one. Thank you.
Heresson (talk) 13:54, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the discussion at Talk:Holy Roman Empire#Please change the map.--Ermenrich (talk) 22:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: The map is wrong and should be changed

message: The black eagel is not the coat of arms of the dynasty! The dynasty used three lions (gold on black/ sometimes black on gold). Nowadays coat of arms of the federal state Baden-Württemberg!
Eagel? Eagle!.
Frederick I., duke of swabia (1079-1105), was not the first known member of the dynasty. His former name (before he became a duke) was "Frederick of Staufen", not "Frederick of Büren". Frederick of Büren was his father. He marriaged a very noble and rich lady ("Hildegard of Egisheim") from alsace, who was related to popes, but he died very young in 1053. The father of Frederick of Büren was another Frederick, count palatine of Swabia. The name of the dynasty was in medieval german (and so in modern german too) "staufer / of Staufen", not "of Hohenstaufen". The name "Hohenstaufen" was first used in the 19. century. For more information look at the german site of "Staufer". If there are any mistakes (of language) you must excuse me, because I'm german and learned english only at school.--86.56.122.96 22:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The article is in pretty good shape, but it desperately needs referencing from WP:RS - with a lot more references, I'd have thought it's worth going for WP:GA. FlagSteward (talk) 16:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs references!

message: Hi! Not that it is very important, but in an early 19th century source: Here page55 they suggest another origin of the name. All the best Wikirictor 18:49, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name, meaning 

message: The despotate of Epirus in the lower right corner did not come into being before the 4th crusade, this map cannot be of the 12th century 31.208.187.40 (talk) 08:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  the map of the hre at its greatest extent is depicting the 13th century not the 12th.