Talk:Horse slaughter

message: I tried to balance article a bit as POV from person who lives in country where horse slaughter 'exists, but isn't openly spoken about'.
Problem with 'United States'-part it is woefully dated, states same issues again and again in different parts(hogging big part of article, no less) from extreme POV because malpractice of human elements in industry.
From this POV, Rest Of The World(capitalization pun intended) and article is seen as big, bad and evil.
※〶 12:40, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps rather than deleting content, you could have kept it but placed it under a heading such as "History" or "Historical context". DrChrissy (talk) 20:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Its already on the USA-section(which needs work...)※〶 20:52, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: But this happens worldwide, not just in the US. DrChrissy (talk) 20:57, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Problem was cites were in US/Canada-POV. They have certain attitude to horse slaughter.
※〶 21:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have got confused by the rather unusual linking to references which link to others.  It makes verification rather difficult.  Even if the US and Canada have different attitudes, this is Internationally based content. DrChrissy (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Once again, we have a problem where content is all mixed up with citing and sourcing issues.  We can't replace one big mess with a different big mess.  The article needs work, and I don't think that is in dispute, but it needs to be improvement, not just more data dumping.  Montanabw(talk) 21:57, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I hear what you are saying.  I was trying to both add new content and improve current content at the same time. I'll bear your comments in mind when I return to editing the article, and thanks for taking the time to have a look. DrChrissy (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think there does need to be more information added to this article that I don't think would just be data dumping, but I would like some feedback about my idea first.  The inclusion of more information on countries like Italy for instance that supply and consume a large portion of the worlds horse meat would be informative juxtiposed to the debate about horse slaughter policy in the US and give a more balanced tone to the article. Is anyone interested in seeing this addition or is there consensus that better citation and organization needs to happen first? Junegloom85 (talk) 02:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could it be useful to create a History Section for the United States to move issues that are uniquely a part of US History there to be expanded upon so the general History section can be more of a pre-modern age general world history introducing the origins of Horse Slaughter and introducing the varieties in attitudes that arose in different parts of the world without going into detail?
Junegloom85 (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article overall.. 

message: * Strong No. An editor (Normal Op) recently removed every image from this article because they felt the images were shocking and low quality. I strongly disagree on the basis that Wikipedia is not censored, there aren't any less gruesome alternatives, these images follow the "principle of least astonishment" and "increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter", and these are the highest quality images available on this topic. (Article with images for reference) Because this editor now refuses to discuss this on the talk page (and because it seems like a pretty simple case), I decided to start this RfC. Mariolovr (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Correction, 3 of the images are from the illigal halal slaughterhouse, 2 are from this case where animal abuse and illegal practices lead to 3 slaughterhouses loosing their licence, and the final case is from [], where the revelation that race horses where being slaughtered made a huge social media storm. The last image probably represents fairly normal practice, but at least 5 of the images are explicitly from abusive slaughterhouses engaging in illegal acts. 192.76.8.79 (talk) 21:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your research and discovery into the source of the photos. Normal Op (talk) 21:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I have not contributed before so please do not hesitate to correct me here, I am open to any and all help.
I do not see discussion of how overpopulation of wild horses and difficulties faced by the BLM in adoption and birth control effect policy regarding horse slaughter in the United States. I thought it might be helpful to separate different challenges to policy in the United States case into different sections to add more depth to the discussion of challenges in the US policy debate. 
I am interested in including the following sources:
GAO. Effective Long-Term Options Needed to Manage Unadoptable Wild Horses; United States Government Accountability Office: Washington, DC, USA, 2008
Jill Stowe, C. “Home Off the Range: The Role of Wild Horse Internet Adoptions in Informing Sustainable Western United State Rangeland Management.” Sustainability, vol. 12, no. 1, MDPI AG, 2020, p. 279–, https://doi.org/10.3390/su12010279.
Elizondo, Vanessa and Fitzgerald, Tim and Rucker, Randal R. You Can't Drag Them Away: An Economic Analysis of the Wild Horse and Burro Program (May 21, 2012). Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=2064180 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.2064180
Weiss, Emily, et al. “Estimating the Availability of Potential Homes for Unwanted Horses in the United States.” Animals, vol. 7, no. 7, MDPI AG, 2017, p. 53–, https://doi.org/10.3390/ani7070053.
Lenz, Tom R. “Unwanted Horse in the United States: An Overview of the Issue.” Journal of Equine Veterinary Science, vol. 29, no. 5, pp. 253–58.
Is anyone else interested in or strongly opposed to seeing this particular section added?
Junegloom85 (talk) 01:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the US case is particularly interesting because even though general public consensus is that horses should not be consumed there is strong opposition to legislation that would curb or eliminate Us contribution to the International Horse Meat Industry. This is why I would like to see more aspects of the debate represented in this article and see a reorganizing that makes separating facts from advocacy easier. I think this involves more than just this one issue and  I think some consideration to the economic debates involved would be prudent as well Junegloom85 (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Inclusion of a New Sub-Section under United States to Discuss BLM Management Challenges