Talk:World Conference against Racism 2001

message: This might be the first page I ever wrote from scratch. It's just the definition
of a term that I couldn't find when I searched Wikipedia. Hope it's okay.
 (UTC)tharsaile 16:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Doc 18:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for Deletion debate

message: Why is a link to discover the networks used as opposed to a link to the post? Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because the Post article is not available from the Post online? The cite is valid, as it gives the publication and date. I assume this is the only reason you have tagged the section, so I am removing the tag, since the hot link is no longer there. Crockspot 19:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Discoverthenetworks is hosting a copyvio. We do not link to copyvios. Please don't link to copyvios. Thanks. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have no proof of that, many news sites pay to respost information. I hope you do not persist in slander in your crusade to remove DTN. --NuclearZer0 19:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discoverthenetworks 

message: As far as I can tell, it's only Gerald M. Steinberg and his organisation NGO Monitor that use this term. —Ashley Y 04:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have proposed deletion for this reason. —Ashley Y 06:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: You didn't look very hard, apparently, as I didn't have to in order to find a perfectly good cite. Andyvphil (talk) 09:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He may have coined the term? That would be relevant to the article, IMHO. -- Kendrick7talk 21:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Absolutely. Andyvphil (talk) 23:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. The only sources for "Durban Strategy" are opinion pieces. These can't be considered neutral. I'll put it up for AfD. —Ashley Y 03:12, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Except I can't because of Uncle G's actions. Wonderful. Narson (talk) 16:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ashley Y, I just signed in for the first time in a long time and got your message that the article was up for deletion again. I put the comment (below) on the debate page which you linked for me, but apparently it's already archived and said "do not edit", so I'll just put it here, FWIW Here it is: tharsaile (talk) 22:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steinberg & NGO Monitor 

message: Does anyone else feel that this section is getting a little into WP:Undue territory with the amount of coverage it gives to criticising the declaration discussion's on the US? I haven't even really looked through the entire declaration, it's so very long but as the early part of this section states, it seems to basically be a something where NGOs have stuck anything and everything which concerns them into it with everything from criticism of classic anti-slavery to the Checnya, Sri Lanka-Tamil Tigers, Roma people and even the treatment of disabled people and GLBT people. It seems to me then that there is probably more criciticism then (for reference, I'm looking at this version ) Nil Einne (talk) 15:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NGO Forum Declaration

message: I have made a couple of changes to the text recently added by Jalapenos. Firstly, I removed the claim that "The conference included distribution of the antisemitic forgery Protocols ...." etc as the source clearly states that these materials were distributed at another conference. I have also removed the text stating that the US and Israel walked out of the conference "claiming it was merely a pretext for the airing of virulent antisemitism" as it is unsourced; the sources only state that the walkout was due to objections over a draft document equating Zionism with racism. Gatoclass (talk) 09:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Jalapenos has just restored the content, without giving a reason or responding to my concerns above. Due to 1RR, I am unable to revert at this time, so I have placed a POV tag on this article for the time being. Gatoclass (talk) 05:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just removed it. The source provided clearly stated that the material was distributed at "a conference that coincided with the Durban conference in 2001" rather than the conference in question. As such, it obviously doesn't support a claim that the material was being distributed as part of the Durban Conference itself. Nick-D (talk) 06:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks Nick. I have removed the POV tag accordingly. Gatoclass (talk) 06:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro changes

message: This article is so biased I am amazed it hasn't been tagged by multiple individuals. The entire "Compensation and Colonialism" section reads like it was written for a high school essay project.  The following are some of the more obvious examples of bias that don't belong in a Wikipedia entry:.
:1."It was one of the most controversial issues debated at the conference, one that had the potential to derail the entire conference. It was dealt with cleverly in the Declaration..."
:2. "The issue of compensation was thus a complex one, that was exacerbated by the President of Senegal, Abdoulaye Wade..."
:3. "Prior to the conference, on 2001-08-03, the African Group circulated a Non-Paper on the "Injustices of the Past", containing strong language but a generally reasonable position..."
:4. "Similarly, South Africa was more interested in devoting time and effort to more pragmatic ends..."
Those quotes were taken from the beginning of the entry; however, similar statements are found throughout the entire entry. Every single one of them involves a value judgment from the author. "Dealt with cleverly"?  "Exacerbated"?  "Generally reasonable position"? What criteria is being used to determine that such a position was "generally reasonable"? "More pragmatic ends"? That statement contains both explicit and implicit bias. That only one source was used for essentially that entire section is one possible explanation for the bias, althought that doesn't explain why the entire entry is riddled with similar statements that have no business in an encyclopedic entry. It is not for Wikipedia to determine if one position is more rigidly ideological rather than "more pragmatic", whether a solution is "clever" and if a position is "generally reasonable" or not. The author doesn't even use weasel words or statements such as "some individuals claim..." rather it is just taken as unassailable fact that a particular position is more "reasonable" or "pragmatic" than another, or that a particular person "exacerbated"(a word I have never seen used in a positive way) a particular situation.  Again, it is not the role of Wikipedia editors to make such judgments.74.138.41.50 (talk) 22:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple sections contain blatant bias 

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message: The sculpture, to be titled the Permanent Memorial to the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade, or the UN Slavery Memorial, is set to be completed in 2012.
:Latest? Valetude (talk) 02:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update, please 

message: : The Palestinian Solidarity Committee of South Africa reportedly distributed copies of the antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
This claim is not well-sourced so I took it out. ImTheIP (talk) 23:26, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protocols...