Talk:History of the New York Jets

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message: there is a main header as Eric Mangini era when it over laps to the Rex Ryan era and should be clear and fix so that it is orginized. Witch I cant do.--Mr. Unknown (talk) 03:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric Mangini era 

message: The entire article has been sourced and cleaned up. Anyone willing to review the material is welcome to (and of course make their own edits). Note to anyone who makes future edits, please make sure to include links with any new or old material you may include, it would be appreciated. Thank You! -- The Writer 2.0 22:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future Status of Article 

message: I see that New York Titans (1960-1962) has just been created.  Any relevant info not already contained there should be merged to this article.  The New York Titans were not a distinct franchise.  The history of the New York Jets includes the years they were called the Titans. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: After a careful look at this article, it does have the potential to be FA.  I see two major problems (the writing is not a major problem, I can work through that:
First, length.  FAC will not seriously consider an article much over 100K.  We can either split the article, or cut it back.  I advise the latter; the reason for the large size is that the 21st century is given much greater detail than the rest of the Jets' existence, and if we cut back the 21st century material to the same depth of coverage, we can easily bring this down to the 80 or 90K I would advise as the maximum for FAC.  The alternative, as I have said, is a split, but you are still going to run into the same problem.  I've gotten sources in hand and will carefully work at it over the next couple of weeks, after the GAN is done most likely.
Second is images.  There is only one shot of the Jets in action.  I can easily take more, as a season ticket holder, but that doesn't get us shots of the Jets in the old days.  There may be something on flickr, or the Jets or the NFL may be willing to allow us to license a few shots.  I'm out of ideas beyond that.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Looking ahead

message: I will probably list this for peer review later in the day.  A few things I have seen, looking through
# There is the usual detritus of a major revamp to be cleaned up.  Spelling mistakes, double periods, etc.  I will eliminate everything I see, but I know from experience my eye tends to skip over stuff.
# I have tried to elimate the "would" constructions i.e. ("the Jets would have a losing season" in favor of "the Jets had a losing season") as this is frowned upon at FAC.  If you see one, and it can't be justified, get rid of it.
#Utter consistency in citation practices is called for.  I see USA Today linked in one ref and not linked in the next.  This will be a pain and an eye strainer, but we should both look closely at this.
#I will consult with Jappalang regarding the copyright status of memorabilia.
I would like to get this to FAC perhaps at the end of the month.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed at quick glance that some of the references are in mmm dd, yyyy format while others are yyyy-mm-dd format.  The FA folks can be sticklers for that too. --Muboshgu (talk) 15:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And some are "January 32, 2010".  I suggest that as some FA reviewers don't like numeric formats, let's change them all to the way I just cited.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take care of the citations as I want to archive them with WebCite. I'll make sure to keep all of the above in mind. --The Writer 2.0 Talk 18:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That is great.  I hate dealing with citations.  I've listed the article for peer review, by the way, hopefully we will get someone quickly.  Hopeful of getting this to FAC before Thanksgiving.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. I hope we can get it to FAC relatively soon too, the article is certainly ready other than the minor tweaks that need to be made.--The Writer 2.0 Talk 18:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, hopefully we will get an outside view quickly.  I have a good record at FAC and am not subject to December collapses, so I am hopeful.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thoughts 

message: *MacCambridge, Michael (2005), America's Game. New York:Anchor Books. eISBN ISBN 978-0-307-48143-6 page 251
"...new colors (green-and-white, in honor of Werblin's St. Pactrick's Day birthday)..." 66.234.33.8 (talk) 12:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info.  Given that it is such an offhand reference, I wouldn't mind seeing confirmation from another source?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Here's why the Jets uniforms are green-and-white

message: I hate to throw a tag on a FA or pare it myself without discussion, so let me ask a question: Is this article falling victim to recentism? Especially with the Peyton/Tebow thing. Why is Peyton mentioned here at all? How does today's acquisition of Tebow rank in Jets history? Never mind, I'm going to pare that myself. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Peyton/Tebow thing might be a bit too early to include (especially now that the Tebow deal may be voided) but to be fair to imply that the entire article is falling victim to recentism is a bit much. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 20:02, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm open to other ways of doing it.  But Tebow was added before I got to it.  I tried to cover it in about the same level of detail that we've covered other Jets quarterback acquisitions and controversies.  I see it's been cut.  Shall we discuss what to add if the trade's approved?  If it is not, we can probably wait until the annual update.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I've also added an editnotice asking people not to add the Tebow stuff just yet.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:45, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't mean to say that the entire article falls victim to recentism, but that it's an issue that should be monitored in the sections that discuss the most recent decade. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but if the trade goes through, we have to add something.  Or someone else will.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism? 

message: Well, we should decide what to say for 2012.  As there is not much doubt left as to the Jets' fate for the year, though one game remains, we can start now.  Something like deleting the current final sentence "This set up a quarterback controversy for the 2012 season" and adding "Despite the ensuing quarterback controversy and a poor 2012 season for Sanchez, Tebow was little-used.  Third-string quarterback Greg McElroy started late in the year but was also ineffective, as the Jets fell to 7-9 (6-10), their first losing season under Ryan."--Wehwalt (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's satisfactory or some variation on it, I'll start looking for sources so as to have the article updated at the final gun next Sunday. Changes among the quarterbacks or head coach to be mentioned during the offseason on an if/when basis.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fine to me. Short, sweet and to the point unlike the Jets' season—2013 cannot come fast enough. Happy Holidays! -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 16:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: To you too.  If it's short, we can fend off The Split for longer ....--Wehwalt (talk) 17:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think even with the latest drama in Jetsland the language can stand.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another year going 

message: Time to think about what to say for this year.  Suggest, "Any quarterback controversy was stilled when Sanchez was injured in preseason.  With his rival out for the season, Smith started.  Both quarterback and team were occasionally brilliant (in victories over playoff-bound New Orleans and New England, for example), the Jets were more often inconsistent, and finished (7-9) (8-8) (7-8-1)."  If they knock the Dolphins out of the playoffs, mention that.  Mention any change in coach or GM which may be forthcoming.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another year gone 

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message: Was their official name actually the Titans of New York? I ask as it regards to this. A better question then, I guess, is if this is the common name. Lizard (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the name under which the franchise was awarded. However, I doubt people in practice used it. I have a pinback button that says "New York Titans".--Wehwalt (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titans of New York