Talk:Safe seat

message: I've merged the bulk of this article and redirected its title here. I dispute that stronghold is the usual term for a safe seat in Canadian politics; every relevant uses of "stronghold" I've ever seen has represented no more than generic use of the word stronghold. While this may in certain contexts identify a safe seat, it does not necessarily: references to the the 905, Mississauga, etc. as Ontario Tory strongholds prior to 2003 were surely legion, but approaching the 2003 election they were not considered safe, a doubt that was borne out by a Liberal sweep of many of them (in the 905; every seat in Mississauga). Further, the term "safe seat" or constructions "safe [party x] seat" are widely used and understood in Canada. I don't want Wikipedia to risk popularizing what's ultimately an idiosyncratic and potentially misleading usage. At the same time, I do assume good faith on the part of its editors - like the former article at 2.5 party system, it sounds like the sort of appelation an individual political science instructor or textbook might use, and an earnest student might log on to Wikipedia to helpfully write up. The trouble is that those expressions' broader application in Canadian political discourse then become overstated... Samaritan 01:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Stronghold (Canadian political term)]]

message: The section order here seems a bit higgledy-piggledy to me: Canada, UK, US, Oz, NZ. Suggest either alphabetic order or North America/Europe/Oceania(?), though that may be OTT for Europe since every other European country has PR I think (perhaps not Malta?). Any comments?
BTW I like the brevity of this article-- not too much, not too little. SimonTrew (talk) 03:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section order 

message: Tantamount to election should be merged to Safe seat#United States.  They are basically duplicate articles/sections, though there is information in each that would benefit both.  No real reason to have them separate that I can see. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 04:35, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: +1 merge; good reasons; thanks for the proposal Hugh (talk) 23:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

text: -1 separate. "Safe seat" is a phrase used with respect to legislative districts, specifically here the safe seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. "Tantamount to election," however, is a phrase used with regard to any type of election (legislative, executive, judicial, whatever) in any country, state, or county where one party has such advantage as to render its internal decisions effectively the sole ones that matter in the jurisdiction as a whole. Rammer (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

text: -1 separate. I agree with Rammer. "Tantamount to election" is used in any context, legislative or not. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 12:47, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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message: Pretty unreliable write up. Most of the page is unsourced.--Wuerzele (talk) 09:08, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horribly sourced