Talk:Big Star

message: Is there a page for Number 1 Record? If so, the link name doesn't work very well because the pound sign tells IE and Firefox to go to the first occurrence of "1 Record" on the Big Star page. — Morypcaina''
: I saw that too just now. I don't know much about the wikipedia album project. Certainly that is a messed up link. – Bebop
: Hey, Morypcaina, I just removed my little message pointing out your message I answered was by someone other than me; I only had it there so people wouldn't think I'd written both messages. — Bebop 01:41, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't use a "#" in an article title. I think we'll have to create the article calling it "Number 1 Record", mentioning the correct album title at the top. And pipe the links. Like, #1 Record. Or #1 Record. Does anyone have any objections? -Freekee 04:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: No. 1

message: Can we say the true fact that Chris Bell not Alex Chilton was the genius behind this band?67.188.110.197
Yay wikipedias back! Hey is anyone else here or just me? can I just change things then? 67.188.110.197
:Do you have a source that indicates Chris Bell was the driving or creative force behind the band?
:You can just change things: Wikipedia:Be bold. They may get changed back though. See: Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers. Hyacinth 09:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chris Bell

message: The second paragraph is very skillfully written but, haven't we seen it somewhere before... yes, sure enough, a search for "melancholy pop for the post-1960s generation" throws up numerous Big Star reviews where that entire paragraph is repeated. We won't be able to keep this in the article due to issues with WP:Plagiarism. In any case the style of that paragraph is not factual enough, which makes it difficult to provide citations. I suggest we replace the paragraph with some new text and I'll probably start to do so unless someone can give a reason not to. PL290 (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. PL290 (talk) 08:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copied text 

message: OK, I will solicit some opinions...Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: I've made a couple of passes through the article and done quite a bit of copyediting. It struck me the chronological sequence was a bit confusing so I've tweaked the structure and section names to give it better visibility. I'll no doubt continue to tweak the article, but it's probably time for some fresh eyes to opine whether there are any particular shortcomings that still need addressing before this goes to FAC. PL290 (talk) 16:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Anything else before FAC?

message: While having at least citations, the opening sentence is full of highly subjective statements. I don't think they warrant removal, but it seems to me as the introductory paragraph, reads as NPOV. pbryan (talk) 14:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not an WP:NPOV violation: that would apply if other significant views had been published by reliable sources, but that's not the case here. Those statements establish notability in first sentence per WP:LEAD. PL290 (talk) 15:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the response. I wasn't suggesting it was a violation, just borderline NPOV-like. I understand the need to establish notability, it just seems a bit like fandom so early in the article. Just my opinion.  pbryan (talk) 20:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV introduction?

message: Isn't the band of significantly more notability than anything else at Big Star? The jeans and magazine articles don't exist and the Markets article is quite clearly at "Big Star Markets". All we are left with is a Kenny Chesney song which barely scraped the top thirty in the Top 100. Surely this is an uncontroversial case of moving Big Star (band) to Big Star, and Big Star to Big Star (disambiguation)? Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 03:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't say I disagree. I notice this article has been move-protected since July 2008 so I'll ping the editor who took that action and see if there are any issues with the move. PL290 (talk) 12:30, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unprotected, y'all work it out.  NawlinWiki (talk) 13:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved this page following the deletion request on the target - please go through all links checking that they are appropriate, and not intended for another meaning of Big Star. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 19:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to main? 

message: I'm concerned about the number of edits that keep changing one part of the article or another to state that the band ceased to tour, or ceased to be active, following Chilton's death two days ago. They probably don't yet know themselves. This is unsourced speculation, which amounts to original research. With Chilton gone there seem to be two obvious possibilities:
*Big Star ceases to exist, or
*Big Star continues in some form, perhaps with additional personnel.
I don't think Wikipedia should preempt the decision by stating that the band is no longer active. It's too early to know. A lot of these are IP edits and I suggest page protection would be appropriate until things become clear and the article can be updated with the actual facts from reliable sources. PL290 (talk) 07:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure it is safe to say that Big Star no longer exists.  70.119.247.185 (talk) 06:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but we'll wait for a reliable source. Bretonbanquet (talk) 09:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is the kind of thing that there will probably never be a reliable source for. It's not like they are going to come out and issue a press release about it.   70.119.247.185 (talk) 00:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Why wouldn't they? What Jody Stephens has actually said is that they'd like to find a way to carry on playing, so for now we'll take it that the band still exists. Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's like expecting Robin Finck to make an announcement about the future of Nine Inch Nails after Trent Reznor dies it's not going to happen. I would suggest at least reformatting the info box to show years people were active and leave it that way, implying that there is a current version of Big Star is rather misleading and a tad bit silly. I would also like to see this statement where he talks about finding a way to carry on because I strongly suspect you are twisting a casual comment to suit your needs.  70.119.247.185 (talk) 19:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of your personal opinion, a reliable source will be required to state or imply that Big Star are no longer active. I'm not sure why you think it's silly - Big Star have played gigs since Chilton's death and there's no reason to assume there will be no more. As for your last comment, you need to read WP:AGF before you strongly suspect anything like that - furthermore, I strongly suspect you haven't even troubled yourself to read the article, since the quote is right there for all to see. You have zero chance of implementing your POV without a WP:RS. Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest page protection following Chilton's death 

message: Who is playing piano here? Ceoil (talk) 04:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Difficult to be sure. The 1992 Ryko CD liner notes do credit Chilton with "Vocals, guitar, keyboards" (and credit no one else with playing keyboard instruments, other than synthesizer and Mellotron), so it may well be him. They are sketchy notes though (as witness the fact that they credit Carl Marsh with "string arrangements", but credit nobody with playing string instruments). PL290 (talk) 06:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Thanks PL. I like to think its Chilton anyway. Ceoil (talk) 07:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I reckon it is. It's very expressive, in a way that seems inseparable from the vocal. I imagine that's how he wrote it, sitting there singing and playing the piano, even though the vocal was probably ultimately recorded separately. (Complete with noises off, opening and shutting doors in the background; these odd noises here and there seem to be an atmospheric feature of Third; never sure if it's intentional, or just what they ended up with from those sessions!) But going back to the piano, take those repeated C notes, for instance, that come from time to time (the first time being between "You look in the mirror" and the next line). Simple, but so expressive, and in such a very sparse way: to me, totally inseparable from the vocal. Must be the same person! Perhaps we'll never know for sure, but I like to think so too. If someone does turn up a source, it would be nice to get something about it into one of the articles. PL290 (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good reasoning. They are so intertwined, one could not have come later than the other. Ceoil (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Holocaust

message: Looking at the picture in the infobox, I think that this one is more representative of the band: it features both Chilton and Stephens, the only two members that were part of the band throughout its entire run (unlike the one used now, which features two other members that weren't present on their most famous 1970s output). I'm going to replace it now. Beatleswhobeachboys (talk) 23:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

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message: Not sure if the current image being used is the most representative of the band and its history, without even featuring Alex Chilton himself. I'd recommend a photo of the original and most well-known lineup that includes both Chilton and Chris Bell, like this one: http://athenacinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/big-star-nothing-can-hurt-me.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.185.64 (talk) 15:07, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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