Talk:Big Fish Games

message: Is there a point to the 'Games Published by Big Fish Studios' section? It's clearly not comprehensive, since they put out a game every day, and there's no rhyme or reason to what games are listed and what aren't. The majority of those listed do not have Wikipedia entries at all. 
While there is actual information provided in listing the games developed by BFG, I don't see any use in listing every game published on the portal. You may as well just go to the site. Adding a wiki category of 'games published on BFG' for the games that actually DO have pages might be more appropriate, maybe? - AmethystPhoenix (talk) 04:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: moving the text out of the article for the moment AmethystPhoenix (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Published By?

message: There is a dispute over the following text:
October 2006: Big Fish Games abruptly lays off 10% of its workforce, creating turmoil and a caustic backlash by its former employees (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/107586.asp).
The article's creator insists on removing it, but it's a relevant statement if you're going to have a History section; the item is sourced. I've tried rewriting it slighty to a NPOV. Now I'm not sure if Lucky Luc works for Big Fish Games or not, but I'd like to point out that Wikipedia is not for self-promotion or advertising. Marasmusine 07:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The text should definitely be more neutral than its original incarnation. Lucky Luc needs to accept that negative information is valid and has a place on Wikipedia, regardless of his personal feelings. It's clear from his editing history that he has an interest in the company, and I have confirmation from someone inside Big Fish Games that there is a Luc in their marketing department (draw your own conclusions). Luc, while your efforts to improve Wikipedia by adding content are appreciated, you have to accept that the changes people make are for Wikipedia's benifit, not BFG's. Fusion 18:43, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: If the news article is slanderous, shouldn't the company take that up with the newspaper? If Big Fish Games has an official response, particularly one disputing the facts of the article, then that probably deserves a place on the page to balance the link in question. Fusion 22:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: That article has whole sections on unethical conduct and other disputes. If someone were to add a section on such layoffs (if they, as you say, were infamous, I don't know) which was properly cited there wouldn't be much fuss. On the subject of WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a soapbox it's interesting to see that your only contributions to Wikipedia have been to create and link to BFG-related articles. Marasmusine 08:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Though I see your point and I'm beginning to consider the item as trivial anyway, so I'll leave it. As mentioned above, it can go in external links. Marasmusine 11:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute in History section

message: There seems to be a dispute beginning over the number of external links going to Big Fish Games. Is there an official Wikipedia policy on this matter? Lucky Luc, please realize that this page is not your personal property. Other contributions may be valid even if you don't like them. Fusion 18:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:External links is the guideline here, but here are my thoughts: What is the point of linking to non-English sites from the English wikipedia, especially when information on those sites is repetition from the main company site. The remainder of the Big Fish links are directly accessible from that site also, so that's basically 5 uneeded links. Point 4 from WP:External links#Links normally to be avoided: Links that are added to promote a site, that primarily exist to sell products or services, with objectionable amounts of advertising, or that require payment to view the relevant content, colloquially known as external link spamming. Marasmusine 22:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: In response to Marasmusine's comment above: yes, NPOV is important; however, the PI blog link should be used as a reference for the article not just plunked into the external links section to satisfy NPOV requirements. The external links "Important points to remember" section states "Links in the 'External links' section should be kept to a minimum." Because this dispute is two years old and the blog link has not been used as a reference in the article, I am moving it and the other article links from the external links section to this page. That way the links are available for editors to use as article references but not cluttering the external links section. --momoricks talk 09:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute over external links 

message: Big Fish Studios could easily be a section of Big Fish Games (the latter being the parent). Any objections? Italiavivi 19:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging into Big Fish Games looks appropriate. John Vandenberg 05:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: We have a problem!  The link to Big Fish Games doesn't work because it is disconnected by a glitch!  Is there a way to fix the Big Fish Games website, please? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  We have a problem! 

message: Does anyone have some pointers or suggestions to make it sound more like an article and not an advertisement? 69.62.172.116 (talk) 22:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which parts need to be re-written to not sound like an advertisment? 

message: Yes, this page is ridden with spam, but it is not unsalvagable.  The company is notable for its share in the game market and its recent financial success.  A quick source to prove my point can be found here.  Themfromspace (talk) 17:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hangon 

message: As mentioned above, I moved these links here from the external links section for potential use as article references. I checked them and they are still active as of today.
* Big Fish Acquires MMO Developer Thinglefin - A Gamasutra article about Big Fish Games' acquisition of Thinglefin on November 28, 2007
* Share a Game, Win Some Cash - A Business Week Article About My Big Fish Games
* Big Fish scales down some staff, hooks others - Seattle P-I reports on October 2006 layoffs
* Red Herring 100 Winners for Spring 2007 - Big Fish Games in the Red Herring top 100
--momoricks talk 09:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article links moved here from external links section 

message: I propose we create a Big Fish Games navbox (see my initial creation here: User:Addionne/Templates) for the bottom of all BFG-related pages.  Let me know what you think about this - additions, deletions, changes - let me know on this page or on the talk page for the template.  So far it has specific sections for the larger game series', as well as links to other games with articles.  The bottom links to the BFG category, where we can show other notable games that have been published by Big Fish.  If we were to list all notable games published by BFG in this navbox, it would be too large to deal with, IMO.  Anyway, I look forward to hearing your feedback. - Addionne (talk) 13:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Fish Games Navbox 

message: As near as I can tell, this "scam alert" is telling us that if you buy your kid an iPhone, and the log it into your iTunes account with your credit card on file, and in-app purchases enabled, your child will proceed to buy things. Because after all they're a child and there is nothing stopping them from buying what they see. Being a child and all. That's the scam? I don't get it. Seems like maybe better parenting is called for. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you answer my question? What is the scam contained here in the report cited? When I look at what it says here in this link I can't understand what Big Fish did wrong. Can you explain it? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 03:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I just think if I enabled in-app purchases and then handed my iPhone to a child, the next thing I would expect to see is a big credit card bill. The whole thing seems to hinge on whether the app gives adequate warning that you're making a purchase. What kind of warning is going to stop a kid? Is the phone supposed to know a kid is playing the game and somehow find the parent and notify them?<P>If there were multiple sources that agree that the app gives insufficient warning, it would be much more convincing. It looks like WP:FRINGE -- an obscure thing that is blown out of proportion. These games are sold globally but I can't find any other news reports about Big Fish overcharging or misleading customers. How is that possible?<P>Might want to post a (brief) note over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games and see if anyone there has an opinion. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 04:37, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Here is the criteria for what is allowed to stay on Wikipedia - Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Post on the talk page of any page you like - there is no problem with that. If you need general assistance for beginners then go to WP:TEAHOUSE - those people will help you with anything! Thanks.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the scam here? 

message: Did you think it's a good idea to change the logo on the article by the new one and add a logo gallery? 205.236.230.117 (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Big Fish is still using the logo featured in the article. It can be seen here: . Peaceray (talk) 17:46, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Logo