Talk:Panoramic tripod head

message: * Adding the home built and automated (commercial and Lego powered) heads could make this page more interesting. John Spikowski 09:21, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: :This seems to read like a brochure, not an encyclopedia article. Until(1 == 2) 14:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a technology list. The Wikipedia has hundreds of them. 24.17.59.171 18:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Technology lists don't list things such as the warranty terms, tripod mounting bolt size, etc.  I've deleted the entire section.  If you want to create a small list of "capabilities of common heads as of 2007", in the sapce of a paragaph, that might be considered a technology list...  the previous section was just spam, and from the looks of it, copyvio spam at that.  Bushytails 22:12, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  If your so bored as your user page suggests, then how about creating a new page or improving the work of others. There are enough 'page blankers' already on the Wikipedia. It's editors like yourself that have lost the concept of the Wikipedia and have scared others away due the the games like this being played. Stop It and find some other page to terrorize. John Spikowski 02:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Firstly, starting off with personal attacks is not a good way to resolve problems.  Secondly, all issues of whether this content belongs on wikipedia aside, it is a copyright violation, and must be deleted for legal reasons.  Thirdly, not ignoring that issue, this content really isn't appropriate for wikipedia, and its inclusion goes against a very large number of policies.  Please do not re-add it.  Bushytails 05:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please don't quote me Wikipedia rules when you broke the 3 revert rule without bothering to investigate the history behind this page and the collaborative efforts by others to find common ground. I've have just about had it with editors that have nothing better to do then stumble on pages and remove content for personal reasons or a lack of anything worth while to contribute. John Spikowski 09:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Also, you seem to have a strong conflict of interest, which you may want to take into account with your further edits.  Thanks, Bushytails 05:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  PanoTools is a non-profit group to help folks with panorama photography. Your a bit late to the party. The validity of this page and it's format has been discussed in detail by others for over a month. If you continue to vandalize this page I will ask that your editing privileges be suspended. You do understand consensus and how it works on the Wikipedia I assume. 24.17.59.171 05:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Just because I got tired of your personal attacks and re-adding links to your sponsors at Panorama stitchers, viewers and utilities and this article does mean that this was a consensus or it is now a good article, it just means that I have more valuable things to do with my time. --Wuz 11:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I guess if it doesn't relate to promoting Pano2QTVR, helping out here is beyond your limits. I have spent enough of my time giving and getting nothing but trashed for my efforts. Let someone else take the abuse for awhile. I have already moved the work I put in here to the PanoTools wiki so If the non-panorama editors here think this is a sales piece, then deleted the page as far as I'm concerned. (and the Panorama stitchers, viewers and utilities as well) The panorama folks are too bitter and lazy to contribute anyways. I can count on one hand the number of PanoTools members that made any significant contribution towards expanding on the group resources. John Spikowski 19:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You might want to consider starting a panoramic photography wiki, where such pages might be appropriate...  The information may be helpful to some photographers, however it is not appropriate for wikipedia, both in terms of content and copyright.  There are many free wiki hosts, a google should find them...  Bushytails 20:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, never mind, looks like you already did that!  Bushytails 20:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The PanoTools wiki has been around since Nov. 2004 and forked at least once that I know of. John Spikowski 22:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe I made the relevant policies quite clear.  Additionally, no editor consensus is needed for the removal of copyright violations.  Please stop adding them, you're only going to get yourself blocked...  Bushytails 17:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: John, Wikipedia is not a product guide or review site.  The table that you insist should be in this article is exactly that and is unsuitable, IMO.  You do not own this page and do not have any standing to say that you must get your way, in opposition to Wikipedia standards and convention. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 18:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: John, I can't see that it's that hard to realize that Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, cannot simply have a page be a copy of your website and cannot take text that's cut and pasted from manufacturers' websites. An encyclopedia is simply a different animal, with a different tone and a different audience.  You come across here as effectively saying "If you won't play by my rules, I'm going to take my ball and go home", which is not really a very workable attitude on a collaborative work such as this. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 23:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  non encyclopedic tone