Talk:Close back rounded vowel

message: Is the Norwegian /u/ compressed like the Swedish? kwami (talk) 13:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. - Some random Swede living in Norway  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.68.78 (talk) 22:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norwegian 

message: I've always been rather confounded by the use of [u] to represent う, and even more so when I see i used alongside the Swedish example "oro". To my ears at least, the don't sound the least bit similiar, if you listen to the sound files provided on the page, then I'm pretty sure you'll find that the Japanese U and its Swedish counterpart won't sound the least bit alike.
:: I second that. Whatever other subtle processes are going on here, the vowel of oro is closer to that of standard English pooh while the u  of kuki is closer to English duh.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:E0B5:8DBE:8D7B:53C2 (talk) 15:08, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No-where do we say it's the same vowel as Hungarian /u/. I can't speak for Swedish. It's a diphthong though, unlike Japanese. Listening to the sound file, it also sounds quite a bit lower--almost like an English /ou/. You're right, it doesn't sound much like Japanese. But "u" is as good as you're going to get for Japanese using the IPA, unless they introduce more vowel letters. Japanese /u/ is further forward than cardinal, in addition to being compressed. I'd think it's the Swedish we'd need to change. However, it may just be that our speaker doesn't have the accent transcribed in the IPA. kwami (talk) 00:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage in Japanese 

message: I don't understand why someone is constantly changing the final trill ([r]) in the example in the Armenian line. It IS a trill, not a flap/tap. See the Wiktionary example for more.--Mahtrqerin (talk) 11:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. I've taken a quick look at the source, and it too seems to say it is a trill (ṙ). --JorisvS (talk) 11:29, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I misread the source on page 19-20, mistakenly thinking it said that the trill never occurs word-finally.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 14:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian 

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