Talk:Pipe organ

message: This bit on masonic organists was tacked on to 20c repertoire before being deleted:
:Organ music plays an important role in Freemason ritual such as the installation of a new Master of the Lodge, initiation of candidates, passing to the second degree and raising to the third degreehttp://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/organistintro.html. Johann Christian Bach was a Freemason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons#M Sir Arthur Sullivan, Sullivan of 'Gilbert and Sullivan', was a Freemason and the Grand Organist of the United Grand Lodge of England in 1887.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons#H
I disagree with the OR rational, though I agree it would be preferable to give the original references buried in List of Freemasons directly:
* Johann Christian Bach, Composer. Lodge of Nine Muses No. 235, London.
As I see it, the issue is where the material belongs. We already have a twofold history of construction and repertoire, so maybe a third section on the use of the instrument is called for: a general reader might well be interested in how an instrument that once accompanied the screams of martyrs came to have pride of place in the Western church, the origin of Organ recitals, how and when organ playing crept into Synagogues, whether indeed Johann Gottlieb Naumann wrote the earliest organ music for Masonic rites, the rise & fall of cinematic theater organs, etc... Sparafucil (talk) 21:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masonism & the social history of the organ 

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message: In September 2011, an IP editor . Besides lacking substance, the section favors living pipe organ builders, bordering on promotion. Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, Wikipedia is not a trade directory or a resource for conducting business. I propose that this section be removed. Perhaps a 'See also' section could be added under which would a appear a link to List of pipe organ builders. —Waldhorn (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Lacking responses to the above, I've gone ahead and removed the Builders section. Please discuss concerns here. Thanks!  —Waldhorn (talk) 20:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
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message: Many descriptions of pipe organs mention air pressure in ″ units (e.g. 100″ or 50″). May I ask, what is this unit and how to convert it to standard SI units? Is it inch of water? Or inch of mercury? Thanks! --Xth-Floor (talk) 10:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is inches of water. --Danmuz (talk) 11:19, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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message: Apologies if this has been discussed before; I've been away from Wikipedia editing for a while. But the choice of "also known as" synonyms seems a bit random to me. We currently have "church organ, chapel organ, grand organ, or Baroque organ" but in that case why not "concert organ", or "cathedral organ", or "classical organ" or any of several other terms? Personally, I'd be tempted to leave it at "church organ" - of course church organs aren't strictly speaking necessarily pipe organs but it's probably the most widely-used alternative term in general parlance. Barnabypage (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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message: How is that dude called in English? I wonder why the article doesn't mention the fact that with complex arrangements, the organist him-/herself can't be bothered with pulling and releasing stops, because organ sounds might be required to change rapidly. That's why there's an assistant to the organist, who does this (and who has preferably a little knowledge about organs as well). In my native German language, this dude is called a Registrant. But even with a small r, this term is virtually unknown in English---or, at least, extraordinarily rare. -quintaton- 2.242.182.127 (talk) 17:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Registrant" is the term I've very occasionally heard in English when I've heard the role given any specific name at all - otherwise there's generic "assistant" or, of course, "page-turner". :) Barnabypage (talk) 00:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The dude who pulls the stops (assisting the organist) 

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message: I can not find the method to change this word to the more correct  grammatical form Schematic. 
Would a more knowledgeable editor please take a look at the description underlying this image which is opposite the heading "WIND SYSTEM" in this article. Thanks, Spyglasses 19:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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message: Autodidact1 has changed BC/AD to BCE/CE on the article without reason, contrary to WP:Era. They did this in an edit on 22 July, and it was not mentioned in their edit summary. I reverted last night, pointing out WP:Era, but they've reverted that. Looking through their edit history, they seem to be doing it on more pages, these examples with not so civil edit summaries. --Inops (talk) 17:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:Era links to MOS:STYLEVAR which says "When either of two styles are acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change." I don't think your personal preference against what you see as a "theocratic" usage is a good enough reason. You're welcome to bring it up on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, if you think otherwise. We're likely to get other people involved that way. --Inops (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. I'm amazed that you've, after being here since 2010, not grasped the need for civility. My argument has nothing at all to do with religion; you're just violating a perfectly reasonable policy in place to avoid wars over conventions of style. --Inops (talk) 16:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Also, "lynch mob"? What are you talking about? --Inops (talk) 16:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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message: This article talks about "divisions". Where are they defined?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spinhirne (talk • contribs) 12:53, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divisions? 

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message: Per this edit by an IP, I understand the motivation for this change, but it seems like a tautology to me, and quite wordy, considering it's inside the infobox. I would say that pipe organs have more names than these two, such as "theater organ", am I right? Elizium23 (talk) 01:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: I've added a brief summary of the Italian Baroque organ as I felt it has an important place in musical history, and is quite different to organs across the rest of Europe. My single reference is a book by Peter Williams. I'm painfully aware that generalisations can so easily knock up against multiple exceptions, so, for example, I've written that these organs were often single-manual affairs, based on Williams' statement "Second manuals remained exceptional..." even though plenty had them. Please do let me know if you disagree with anything I've written. I wanted to add something on pitch and temperament, as there seems to be an Italian flavour here (Williams quotes Antignati as saying that the pitch of an organ can be "come si vuole", "as you like", i.e. at the builder's discretion, depending on the local taste). But the matter of pitch and temperament goes way beyond Italy and is a huge subject, so I've kept out of it. But if anyone has any thoughts... Elemimele (talk) 18:33, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian Baroque organs 

message: I just can't make sense of the graphic on this page that shows the organ range.  The center staff says "range of a typical organ with 2" to 16" pipes" and shows a range of C1 to C9 -- that's pretty clear.  Then, to the right, there is a staff of "sound possibilities" with each C labeled with a pipe size, the implication being that the range of an organ with given min and max length will match the diagram.  If that's the case, why is C7 marked as a 1" pipe when the middle staff shows the 2" pipe reaching C9?  Similarly for the lowest note; the staff on the right has C1 for the 64' pipe, but the center graphic shows C1 for the 16' pipe.  
Possibly I am just misreading it, but I can't be the only one.  What is the actual range of a 64' to 1' organ?  Assuming the middle graphic is correct for 16' to 2', then would it be C-1 to C10?
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thread_title:  Organ range 

message: In the initial description of tracker action, I replaced "mechanical" with "only rods and levers". This might be a bit erroneous or imprecise, but "mechanical" was far worse - a straight pneumatic action is also entirely mechanical, and needs to be excluded. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: (It's true that only a beginner would not know that, but this opening description is precisely the place where it's necessary to cater to beginners.) TooManyFingers (talk) 19:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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