Talk:For a Few Dollars More

message: Definitely not set in the 1890s, as stated in the plot description, given that Mortimer finds Monco's picture with the brothers he kills in the beginning in the El Paso Tribune dated July 1872.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mammadeep (talk • contribs) 23:36, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Era

message: We ought to say something about the use of music the Leone's films, and especially how it is tied into the story here. -- Beardo 04:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: I added a section on "Production" based on what I read in the DVD booklet. I'm not sure how to reference it in the article. If anyone can help, please do. - Zone46 00:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: It is fairly good that Sergio Leone himself says that his nickname is "Monco". But, what has to do an italian word in a western, located in a spanish language place? The man who speaks of him clearly says "Manco". So, I think there's a little mistake in the film itself, if they "officialy" gave the character the name of Monco. 200.55.126.124 22:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The film was made by Italians and its original title is in Italian.  Of course, it may be that the English dubbing changed Monco to Manco ? -- Beardo 23:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What I'm saying is that the "official" nickname Monco is probably a goof of the italian producers. Nazroon 06:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense. It's an italian movie, why shouldn't they use italian words? In fact they use thousands of them. They also call the sheriff "sceriffo". --188.101.12.169 (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monco Vs. Manco 

message: There is a separate article El Indio (For a Few Dollars More) - I don't see that he warrants a separate article and suggest that it be mefged back here. -- Beardo 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate article for El Indio 

message: What is it that Indio smokes in this film when/during his flashbacks? This article contradicts itself saying both opium and cannabis. The film itself doesn't seem to say what it is. Can it really be guessed based on how he acts? Or would it be enough to say he simply smokes something?
:I agree. It cannot be said what drug he is addicted to, but marijuana seems the least likely (marijuana is one of the least addictive drugs). I will change it to "smoking an addictive drug" Dudeman1st (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been switched back, apparently. Now "Plot" says peyote and "El Indio" under "Characters" says cannabis. I haven't seen the movie myself, so I don't know if there are any clues either way. "Plot" describes "drug-induced craziness" (violent, I'm guessing? - he sounds like a violent guy) which doesn't sound like cannabis. Which is it?  intooblv (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Afaik, cannabis could induce hallucinations, though. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 22:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is untrue. Cannabis can only produce mild-to-moderate auditory hallucinations and very mild visual hallucinations and only at high doses. It definitely cannot produce full blown hallucinations -- i.e. "living dreams" where the hallucination is so intense that the difference between it and reality cannot be distinguished by the user. <SPAN> »» <SPAN STYLE="background:#525;border:1px solid #212;border-radius:16px">  Stereoisomer  </SPAN></SPAN> 03:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Cannabis seems unlikely for two reasons. Firstly, it is not only one of the least addictive drugs (as mentioned by Dudeman1st above), but its addictive potential is only psychological which conflicts with Indio's behavior of desperate craving which strongly suggests a physical addiction. Secondly, cannabis actually kickstarts the introspective and imaginative thought processes and therefore is the last thing someone would take to escape from or "kill the pain" of a guilty conscience or horrible memories. <SPAN> »» <SPAN STYLE="background:#525;border:1px solid #212;border-radius:16px">  Stereoisomer  </SPAN></SPAN> 03:55, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Given the choice between opium and cannabis, I'd say opium is far more likely. The numb, euphoric high that opiates produce are a perfect "solution" for disturbed individuals looking to temporarily escape or forget the awful things rattling around in their heads. What's more, Indio's behavior would suggest a significant (and likely physical) addiction to his drug of choice and that fits well with opiates and their high potential for (physical) addiction. However, the main issue I see with this opium theory is that opiate highs generally don't cause hallucinations. Opiate *withdrawal* can include hallucinations, but that doesn't fit with Indio's experience in the film. On a final note, it's worth mentioning that opium is a hard, sticky, tar-like substance that can't be rolled into a cigarette paper on it's own... however, it can be broken into small pieces and sprinkled on tobacco as a smoking preparation. This method has been fairly common in the last several decades (including during the production of this film) and it's feasible that it was not unheard of in Indio's time as well. <SPAN> »» <SPAN STYLE="background:#525;border:1px solid #212;border-radius:16px">  Stereoisomer  </SPAN></SPAN> 04:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opium or Cannabis (or Tobacco)? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Volonté Fistful-2.jpg

message: During the movie the Eastwood and Van Cleef are referenced as bounty hunters, not bounty killers, so why not reflect this in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.248.112 (talk) 01:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but they are also referenced as bounty killers in the film. I'm the one who made that change a while back and i apologize because i realize "bounty hunters" is the better term.Dr. Lucifer (talk) 06:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bounty Killer, Not Hunter 

message: "The town of Agua Caliente, where Indio and his gang flee after the bank robbery, is Albaricoces, a small "pueblo blanco" on the Nijar plain." What's a pueblo blanco? Looks like something that should be a link, but I can't find anything about it. --StarChaser Tyger (talk) 06:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  White village?  

message: The text says Klaus Kinski's character challenges Manco to a duel, but it is actually van Cleef who is challenged (due to a previous altercation in a bar) and who shoots Kinski.--Death Bredon (talk) 20:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kinski duel 

message: In the text, it says Eastwood's character is "holding a Winchester rifle at Indio". It's actually a Henry rifle. Looking at this picture, you can see, that the rifle doesn't have the characteristic forend of a Winchester: Reference picture
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thread_title:  Winchester rifle 

message: As the cast section seemed inordinately long, I have removed all of the "uncredited" actors, many of whom had black links, indicating they did not have articles of their own.  The roles, for the most part, were very minor. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 03:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

message: As I remember the film as I saw it on TV, the portraits in the two watches are not identical: One is of the young woman, which she had given to her lover, whereas the other is of the lover, which he had given to her. After Indio is killed, Mortimer sees the portrait in one watch and exclaims, "My son!" and Manco, seeing the portrait in the other watch, exclaims "My sister!".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.151.147 (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending: The Two Watches 

message: West Germany was removed from the last stable version by a blocked IP address. Country: Italy, West Germany, Spain; please see The Spaghetti Western Database & IMDb. Please note that West Germany is listed in the categories section and also named as one of the production countries in the Dollars Trilogy article. Further references: Dolorez Martinez, Remaking Kurosawa: Translations and Permutations in Global Cinema, Palgrave Macmillan, New York, 2009; John White, Film Guidebooks: Westerns, Routledge, Oxford, 2010. Hull16 (talk) 18:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I had actually meant to revert to an intermediate version. Thanks for fixing this. Joefromrandb (talk) 21:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Country 

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message: I just re-watched the film last night, and I take issue with this statement from the current Plot section: "Manco manages to convince the gang to ride to the small border town of Agua Caliente rather than travel through Rio Bravo. Mortimer, who anticipated Manco would deviate from their planned ambush, is already there." Do others interpret the scene as Manco convincing them to ride to Agua Caliente? Mortimer wanted Manco to convince them to ride north through Rio Bravo, Manco deviated and suggested they ride south across the border, and an untrusting Indio decided instead to ride east to Agua Caliente. So Manco didn't convince them to ride to Agua Caliente, unless the claim is that it was a reverse psychology tactic, which seems like a reach to me. And although Mortimer did anticipate that Manco would deviate from their planned ambush, he also anticipated that Indio would reject Manco's suggestion and ride to Agua Caliente.
Because a correction to this point in the plot summary would require a longer explanation, and because I think the details of how they ended up going to Agua Caliente aren't terribly relevant to the plot, I propose changing this to "The gang rides to the small border town of Agua Caliente. Mortimer anticipated their destination and is already there." Thoughts? Rjmorris (talk) 13:13, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manco convinces gang to ride to Agua Caliente? 

message: Unfortunate toward the end of the movie.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4000:62E0:415C:E582:A79E:5F19 (talk) 19:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added part about animal cruelty