Talk:William Gibson/Archive 1

message: Please see Talk:Gibson for a discussion of how to best disambiguate "Gibson". Thanks. --rbrwr± 10:59, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Early messages

message: references to be added for the agrippa mention: http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/source/source.asp (at bottom) http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/source/agrippa.asp (full text) --Quiddity 07:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Agrippa

message: If Gibson was born in 1968 and fled to Canada in 1972, he was only three or four years old when they fled.  The sentence should be revised to show that (presumably) his family fled and took Gibson with them.
:If you read from the top of the article, you'll see that he was born in 1948, fled to Canada in 1968 and settled in Vancouver in 1972.Shsilver 16:43, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Sentence  

message: Can anyone confirm if the link to the video clip in the article has anything to do with Gibson? My computer can't play the clip. Mikkel 02:00, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is him, he admits to doing it for the cash. http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/archive/2003_05_01_archive.asp#200226493
Jamesmorrison 10:31, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  William Gibson clip from 1967? 

message: I don't think William Gibson actually coined this term. I will hunt down the name of the person who did and if my suspisions are correct, I'll edit the page.  Gibson Cowboy 18:25, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck with that.  The earliest citation provided by the Oxford English Dictionary is the 1982 appearance of Gibson's "Burning Chrome" in Omni.  Might you be thinking of "Cyberpunk", which is generally attributed to either Gardner Dozois or Bruce Bethke?  Skyraider 05:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Coining the term "Cyberspace"

message: Surely he should be placed in either the American science fiction wirters category or the Canadian one, not both?
:I'd argue for Canadian. He's lived most of his life in Canada, and holds Canadian citizenship IIRC. Seems to me that when a writer emigrates they become known for their country of residence. An example would be Salman Rushdie, who is described as an "Indian-born, ethnically Kashmiri, British writer". A quick perusal of a few other writers' pages would seem to bear this out as a standard.
:I'm thinking I'll edit as necessary unless there are any objections in the nearish future...? - FlyingOrca 20:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. -Quiddity 20:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced.  I don't hear anyone referring to Arthur C. Clarke as a "Sri Lankan" writer. If Gibson genuinely did change his citizenship, ok, but I thik we need substantiation on that. . . Skyraider 04:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm changing it to "American": I've found substantiation that he retains US citizenship.  (here)  Skyraider 00:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  American vs Canadian writer 

message: There are two sentences in the article that are a bit vague. Could the original author, or some knowledgeable editor fix them up?
His novel Pattern Recognition, set in the present day, entered mainstream bestseller lists for the first time.
I presume this means that PR was his first novel to enter the mainstream bestseller's list. However, I don't want to change it unless it is confirmed that that is what the sentence is trying to say.
Despite all this, Gibson never had a special relationship with computers.
What is a 'special relationship with computers'. It would be good to get some concrete example here. I heard he wrote Neuromancer on a typewriter. This would be good info to include if true. 
Ashmoo 02:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification

message: I've removed the satire section, as point #1 seems to be entirely Original Research, and point #2 is an irrelevant tangent. --Quiddity·(talk) 21:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Satire 

message: I see a recent addition and subsequent removal of a link to sffaudio.com, which I understood to be a science fiction audiobook fan site and directory.  Anyone know if a link to this site would actually constitute a "commercial" link?  I've asked the IP address who removed it to re-think, but how does everyone else feel about this?   ◉ ghoti 01:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be better as a Reference section link, than in the External links section. The difference being, it's not noteworthy as a site about Gibson. --Quiddity 01:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, perhaps ... though in the five-minutes of research I just did, I couldn't find any other site whose focus was on audiobooks, and none that listed as many of Gibson's in one place.  There are external links to pages at sffaudio.com used for at least a few other WP articles.   ◉ ghoti 11:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  audiobook fan site? 

message: why there's nothing about hic novel Johny Mnemonic? --134.147.117.102 19:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is, and a whole article. See the line beginning: "Two of his short stories have been turned into movies: 1995's Johnny Mnemonic, starring ..." --Quiddity 19:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johny Mnemonic 

message: I'd like to see a section about how his novels and shortstories were received. The article pages for his books don't have that information, I think, with the exception of Neuromancer. It would be nice to get more of an overall sense for his work. --4.159.11.135 17:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical Reception 

message: In line with the above comment about the need for a critical reception section, the article could surely be improved in the Influence section - I imagine there is a lot to be said here about the influence of the 'father of cyberpunk'; Jack Womack, The Matrix off the top of my head. If you can think of or better yet cite any authors/movements/artworks Gibson has influenced, please add them here.
Secondly, influences on Gibson would make useful additions to the article. User:Photonicus has added Alfred Bester, I will do likewise for Dashiell Hammett (who was largely responsible for Gibsons hardboiled streak, and not Chandler).Skomorokh 11:37, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add a citation for what you're adding. Speculation shouldn't be in the page. -- BillWeiss | Talk 16:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Quite right. Citations added, but the section is looking a little bloated now. Robert Stone and Samuel R. Delaney would seem the least influential. I'll leave it be at present. Still needs info on those influenced by our man in Vancouver.Skomorokh 18:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence and Influences 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Agrippa-cover.jpg

message: I removed two quotes because I couldn't find anywhere to put them. For future usage, they are preserved below:
*I suspect I have spent just about exactly as much time actually writing as the average person my age has spent watching television, and that, as much as anything, may be the real secret here. --  excerpt from short autobiography on Gibson's website, williamgibsonbooks.com
*Writing a novel for me…the part of the text where you're moving forward into nothingness, it feels like being one of those transatlantic tunneling machines...grinding away at a dank dark rock face. -- from a radio interview with This Week in Science originally recorded on February 03, 2004.
Skomorokh incite 19:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed quotes 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
*:William Gibson (novelist) → :William Gibson — I believe :William Gibson (novelist) qualifies as the primary topic of the disambiguation page William Gibson as can be seen by the overwhelming number of incoming links for the novelist compared to all the other William Gibsons and the fact that a Google search for 'william gibson' yields pages of results for the novelist before coming to any of the others. I propose moving the disambiguation page at :William Gibson to William Gibson (disambiguation) and move :William Gibson (novelist) to :William Gibson. Comments? Skomorokh incite 19:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely agree (happy either way). --Quiddity 04:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 18:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: A new user just deleted this sentence:
:In 1993, Gibson wrote and read the lyrics to the track "Floating Away" on Yellow Magic Orchestra's album, Technodon
But the second ref  credits a different (or additional?) track. This needs to be checked and reliably-sourced before adding it back in. --Quiddity 17:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All Music Guide is usually the authoritative source on albums, but their Technodon credits don't mention any additional contributors. Amazon's got nothing either. I'll broaden the sentence so the sources don't contradict. Skomorokh incite 17:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: YMO lyrics

message: Hello, I just came back from Burning Man and I answered your request.
I changed the license to cc-by-sa as suggested. Let me know if this is what you expect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by FredArmitage (talk • contribs) 02:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. This is great! Thank you all for going to all this trouble, and special thanks to Fred for agreeing to re-license the image! Here's a barnstar for y'all:
		The Photography Barnstar
		Awarded to all the people here who worked so hard to rescue this image. You'll have to share it, though: everyone gets one slice. :-) Lupo 21:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That's the spirit! Lupo 21:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answer from the photographer (me!)