Talk:Texas/Archive 3

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MUCH of the data in this page is out-of date.  Needless to say the simple fact that TX is now one of 8 States where Caucasians are the minority is a major detail.  Please Update. - A Texan.
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"Texas larger than life attitude" is a POV
:I had a differnt wording for that.  When I return from vacation, I'll see if I can find it in the history. -Acjelen 15:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever you say "Texas larger than life" is tradition, not attitude. Millions of Texans are proud to describe their state with that phrase. (Eddie 23:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: I just finished writing the Texas article in Persian! See here. God it was hard. It takes me 5 minutes to type one sentence in Persian. And the code is a pain (all the WP syntax is confusingly inverted).
But its done. At least for now.
Go spurs!--Zereshk 11:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me—but of course I don't speak Farsi. -JCarriker 22:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It still needs a history section.--Zereshk 00:21, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Begging the favor of your esteemed perusal

message: The significance of the Civil War is overlooked in this article. Could we add some information? I want to know more about the situation in Texas during the Civil War. It would help the article, too. Stallions2010 22:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Civil War 

message: Made a few adds to the Miscellaneous information. 
Oh yeah, and it's no POV that Texas rules... ;P Colonel Marksman 20:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellaneous information adds

message: To elaborate a little more, Texas is its own unique region. The southern united states shares a large African-American minority and working class white society of mainly decedants of the British isles. Texas lacks these features but combines elements of the south and west into a isolated culture. Texas role in the Confederacy was minor, perhaps the least participated state in the war. Your comparisons of Atlanta and Dallas as being two southern cities are misleading. Atlanta shares more in common with Houston climatically, culturally, and Demographicaly. These cities have lost to a great extent their southern identity as they have become victims of urban sprawl. If you go to Atlanta you'd be far fetched to hear a native tongue until you reached 20 miles out of the city excluding the African-American inner city.  Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia all share the most common features of what we would think as southern.
**As to the statement in the above post that Texas role in the Confederacy was minor, see the post above in the Civil War thread. To wit, the soil of Texas itself was least affected, but the role of Texans involved in Confederate service was unsurpassed.
Texas is essentially a Southern state, even if not a typical one.  Most of the things that make Texas TEXAS are Southern in origin and form...ranging from the dialect to traditional foods to history, religion, customs, and general political outlook.  And according to most surveys on the subject, the overwhelming majority (some 86%) of Texans consider themselves part of the South.  Even the most commonly associated icon of all -- the cowboy -- has direct Southern roots, the habits of which were primarily derived from the cattle drovers of the Old South. And most of them were ex-Confederate soldiers or the sons of the same.
I would agree that TX is a Southern state. Main I agree with the argument made above. It may be beneficial to point out that there is a spectrum of culture ranging from "Southern" to "Southwestern" as you move accross the state. JNAllen 04:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Is Texas the South? 

message: An anonymous editor made this change and provided no source.  I'm not sure which is right and I don't have time to look it up right now.  I'm putting it here so the change can be checked when someone has time. Johntex\talk 06:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Texas A&M University's article backs this up, and A&M's website verifies that the school opened in 1876. --SeanQuixote | talk | my contribs 04:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change by anon

message: All,
I made the changes to the population table. San Antonio is now the 7th largest city in the US: 
be cool.--Zereshk 03:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You could have updated the other cities as well (for consistency).  What is so great about being seventh-largest now? —RJN 04:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not being from Texas but having lived there a few years when I was really young, I would guess it's much better than being 8th largest. ;) Jon 18:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: Howdy, Y'all!  This article has been selected as the Texan Collaboration of the Month.  For the rest of July, we will try to collaborate to bring this article up to the highest Wikipedia standards. For inspiration, we may wish to visit some of the other Geographical articles that have reached Featured Status, including the cities of Marshall, Texas, Detroit, Michigan, and Boston, Massachusetts. - Johntex\talk 19:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Texan Collaboration of the Month

message: Some guidelines should be made as to the content of the history section of this page.  On the ground the history of Texas is generally considered uniformly (that is, Texas has one history), but on WP the various jurisdictions plus two historical terms all have their own articles some with their own history sections.  While it is important to summarize the past before 1845, the history section of this article should concentrate on Texas history since statehood. -Acjelen 21:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: In looking over a few geographical articles that have reached featured status, I have found a few sections in those articles that are not included here in this article (at least not as seperately named sections).  We might want to consider if any of these sections are needed here.  They include:
*Boston, Massachusetts - Culture - Sites of interest, Infrastructure - Utilities
*Marshall, Texas - Notable natives, citizens, and associated people
*Detroit, Michigan - Climate, Culture - Media
*South Africa - Flora and Fauna, Military, Media
*Pakistan - Flora and fauna, Holidays
*Seattle, Washington 
:*Culture - Landmarks, Annual cultural events and fairs, Performing arts, Museums and art collections, Other attractions, Media, Outdoor activities
:*Infrastructure - Significant Buildings, Utilities, Medical centers and hospitals
*San Jose, California - Climate
There are currently no featured US states, so countries and cities are the closest comparisons.  Some of these things may not be appropriate here, or may already be touched upon in other sections already. Johntex\talk 23:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional sections?

message: I remember hearing this term in a college history course.  It referred to the technique of American settlers moving in to foreign territory, becoming economically established, subverting or overthrowing the existing government, and then applying for admission into the US.  The three examples cited were Texas, California, and Hawaii.  Has anyone else heard this term?  I was thinking maybe there should be a section or article but I'm not sure how notable the theory is. Dgies 21:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "The Texas Game"

message: A link to the Economy of Texas has been added to the page. The actual article still needs some work. Feel free to contribute.
(Eddie 17:52, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy of Texas 

message: I'm gonna clean this up, way to many books.  Joe  I 07:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Further reading

message: What do we know about Religion in Texas? There is nothing in the article about it. I've looked under demograpics and there should be something included about it. Please update if you come across anything useful.
(Eddie 16:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: I would suggest to use some information from the Handbook of Texas Online to expand our article about Texas after WWII. See History of Texas.
(Eddie 20:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like for this article to have more information, but you can not just copy and paste text from the Handbook of Texas and cover it up with your second edit by inserting .  I have reverted your copy and pasting in the History of Texas article. —RJN 20:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All right. I am not familiar with the rules of the Handbook of Texas, but I do know that it is a great source of information. Since it's on the internet anyone can copy it and paste it as well. I did not mean to do any harm and apologize if I broke any unwritten laws. Thanks for pointing out RJN, will watch it the next time (Eddie 00:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas Modernizes: 1945–2006 

message: "the United States Supreme Court has agreed to review the case. Texas won the case "
Can somebody make this make a little more sense?-Giant89 02:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs rewording 

message: My picture  is better in a way than the last one . My picture shows the county courthouse, which is one of the landmark buildings in our skyline. the last one only showed the some main buildings. Plus, Mine shows the Sierra Madres in whole which makes it look nicer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smguy101 (talk • contribs) .
:"Your picture" is of poor quality—it is extremely blurry.  The second picture is much better in resolution and color—it looks professionally done. "Your picture" is already displayed on the El Paso article so it is only fair that someone else's picture be displayed in this article. "Your picture" does not have to be displayed on every page.  —RJN 01:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI: When you upload or contribute to anything here on Wikipedia, it becomes part of the community and is no longer "yours". —RJN 01:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the photo is of poor quality or blurry, I think the smog from El Paso makes it look that way. Maybe this will help illustrate the polution problems that El Paso/Juarez have.MonolithicNinja 17:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with EWS23 completely.  It is good to have some variety, and the two images seem to work well on the respective pages. Johntex\talk 18:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm Sorry guys, i must have been high or something when I argued about this. I agree with you guys totally, we need a lot more pictures of El paso up on wikipedia. Smguy101 04:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of El Paso 

message: As the recent swapping in Education section points out, many sections of this article lack comprehensive information covering the state as a whole.  The colleges and universities section is a thick list easily subject to edit wars about whether UT or Texas A&M should go first.  Other list-heavy sections include "Healthcare and scientific research", "Mass transportation", and "Airports".  For a different approach, see both the "Highways" and "Primary and secondary education" sections.  They do a good job of describing the situation in a more state-wide fashion. -Acjelen 03:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So you what do want to do, the college section is relatively unchangeable, any college thats removed will inevitably be editted back in. In Texas, college pride is a big deal, removing any major college system from the main page would cause edit wars as much as the A&M/UT wars are now. I actually like the way it is formatted now because while it may be rather long it is interesting and easy to read.-Giant89 04:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right here there is information that should go in the article: "In Texas, college pride is a big deal".  In most states there is one flagship university and/or one public university system.  Texas has two flagship universities (as I explained to my family back in Wisconsin) and maybe four or five public university systems. -Acjelen 12:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I originally wrote this section of the article a year or so ago.  I plan on rewritting it in the future and it will be a very a short and summarize version. —RJN 04:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck. Maybe we could get that section protected after you change it? Can you protect individual sections? Than again, the wole article might do well to have protected status. BTW-Like I said before many Texans would beg to differ when you say there are two flagship Universities-Giant89 12:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comprehensive information 

message: Hello fellow Texan Collaboration of the Month editors,
We have made some good progress with Texas over the past month.  However, I am not sure if we have improved the article enough yet to contemplate nominating it for FA (or at least GA).  I propose that we spend one more month on it before choosing a new topic.
I further propose that we archive the existing list of future candidate articles.  Some of the nominations are quite old.  I think we should take fresh suggestions during August for a new article to collaborate on in September.
I look forward to your thoughts. Please put comments at Wikipedia_talk:Texan_Collaboration_of_the_Month#August_2006.  Thanks! Johntex\talk 01:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Texas Collaboration of the month - August 2006

message: Alright if you southerners don't want us in your club then so be it. You see in Texas we got over the Civil War, we don't hang around the Wal-Mart and fly a big old rebel flag from are trucks. We don't have accents so thick people will swear we were talkin dutch over a phone. We don't have to drive to Atlanta even if it is a 7 hour trip from are trailor to  buy anything, get anywhere, or to have family reunions. We go to other beaches rather than Panama City, Fl. Are favorite number isn't 8. Professional is alot better than College. We know more highway routes than I-20 and I-10. We don't wrestle alligators. Humidity SUCKS!!! Not everyone has matching names. Oh Brother Where Art Thou?, was not the best movie ever made. Thank you, I speak for all of Texas.
:I've been quite upset myself over the past few weeks, with people denying that Texas is part of the South. We fought the last battle of the Civil War and were the last troops to stop fighting. We suffered with the rest of the South in everything that we went through - slavery, the Civil War, Reconstruction, and segregation. And now this is how other Southerners view us, as not being a true Southern state? But no matter what everyone says we are still part of the South, every last bit of Texas. From El Paso to Dalhart to Jasper to Brownsville. So you pretty much insulted us right here. (But I see your anger, I'm getting pretty annoyed too.) Texas is part of the South, and for those who don't believe it...be it fellow Southerners or anyone else...is wrong and ignorant of Southern history. Stallions2010 22:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Cares? 

message: How come there's no median income summary in the right hand table? Many of the other states have a median income listing.  --speedoflight | talk to me 10:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Median Income 

message: Someone vandalized the first sentence. I laughed so hard when I saw it, but I fixed it. Secos5 02:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Funny Vandalism