Talk:Northern Rail

message: I've added the WY routes that Northern don't produce timetables for, as these were missing from the list of routes Dupont Circle 15:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Yorkshire 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Northern rail logo.gif

message: Can someone explain what the colours mean on the list of routes, I would have expected it to have been explained in the article? Keith D (talk) 22:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. The answer being I don't know :). They don't even match the colours on the transport boxes on the various pages (for example, Meadowhall Interchange). ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  All the colours match the zones that all the Northern-produced timetables fall into.  See the Northern timetable pages Dupont Circle (talk) 20:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, thanks for that. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies to bump this, but when the colours were originally put on in 2007 ish, each zone of the Northern network was given a certain colour which was put on the top of the timetables, it has since become obsolete DannyM (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Routes

message: I don't see an easy way to do this, as daytime frequency is very difficult to put on some of these routes as alot of the services are infrequent. DannyM (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Frequency

message: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/rail-electrification.pdf Here it states Northern rail will receive trains from Thames Link route, to operate the electrified route Between Liverpool and Manchester. Class 319, Class 321 or Class 365 units. Mark999 18:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's odd. On British Rail Class 350 the same document is cited to say that new electric Desiros will be used. NRTurner (talk) 08:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New rolling stock

message: --ADI4094 11:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  tweeting vandals 

message: Service 30 - hull-york etc - not done by northern anymore - no pacers? Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the Northern Rail timetable and they seem to still run services from Hull to York, however I will have to check up later to see whether the pacers are still used though. It also seems that the service to Leeds is no longer operated by Northern, rather the timetable states that First Transpennine Express trains operates Hull-Leeds,with Northern just operating the York and and the Doncaster/Sheffield route. Jamko31 (talk) 13:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I can confirm that Pacer's are still used on this route.Jamko31 (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  From looking at the first timetable available for download  quite a lot of the trains are operated by Northern, with others being TransPennine Express and Hull Trains. I'm not sure where the information regarding Northern not running trains between Hull and Leeds has come from...? BNC85 (talk) 17:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  As far as I am aware Northern still run Hull to York using Class 158's. There are no direct Hull to Leeds services run by Northern Rail (there are however direct services run by TransPennine Express) the only way to do that journey with Northern Rail is to change at Selby.Ainsworth74 (talk) 13:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Out of date

message: The myth persists that there was some form of "greater" Oldham Loop Line which included the Manchester to Rochdale via Castleton route. Operationally this was never the case, the services to Rochdale via Castleton and via Oldham were entirely separate. The pattern of operation on the Oldham Loop Line under Northern Rail was that all trains ran to the Oldham stations, with around half then going on to terminate at Crompton and Shaw. The remaining trains that ran on to Rochdale terminated in the bay platform there. This pattern of operation persisted during the whole life of the Oldham Loop Line under heavy rail (in earlier times trains terminated at Royton rather than Crompton and Shaw). The fact that the Oldham Loop Line was a separate operation perhaps made it easier to consider it for conversion to Metrolink. Interestingly when the Metrolink services start on the whole of the former Oldham Loop Line the previous heavy rail practice of terminating services at Crompton and Shaw will continue.WizardOfTheNorth (talk) 09:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Oldham Loop Line 

message: Do the Dumfries to Newcastle weekday early morning services really exist? George8211 (talk | mail) 12:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed they do: http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/DMF/NCL/tomorrow/1108/arr -- Alarics (talk) 13:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but they're ScotRail, not Northern Rail. I have therefore removed them from this article. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I hadn't noticed that. -- Alarics (talk) 05:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dumfries to Newcastle services 

message: Why is every piece of rolling stock Northern has listed to be transferred to South West Trains? It can't be right and there's no source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thealexweb (talk • contribs) 10:18, 29 August 2013‎
:Too right. It's long-term vandalism by an IP-hopper. More at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Why isn't IP 86.158.105.73 blocked yet?. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  South West Trains Galore? 

message: Northern Rail gives a figure of 529 in a few news reports in 2007 (e.g. Northern Rail unveils train named 'William Wilberforce', 18 October 2007. The same number was mentioned in 2006 (New trains on track, Telegraph & Argus, 14 November 2006) and 2013 (Wirral blogger Scott Willison’s adventures on the railways up for major online writing award, Wirral News, 25 September 2013) and "northernrailorg" on Twitter (12:51 am - 14 Jan 2014) mentions that they "manage and maintain approx 529 stations" (implying that they call at more than 529). In 2009 the number of stations operated was reduced from 471 to 462, so are these likely to be incorrect repetition of the same number or just a coincidence that all are the same? Withdrawn (talk) 20:57, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You might find this helpful, https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/318233/northern-prospectus.pdf gives figure of 526 stations called at of which 463 they manage. WatcherZero (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I couldn't find that (and searching within it doesn't find the number, I had to scroll through). One new station is Buckshaw Parkway (2011), another is James Cook railway station but that's too recent to appear in the statistics. :Category:Railway stations served by Northern Rail currently lists 525 pages (but four are missing, and one's there that shouldn't be, as it's closed), and the Commons category lists 515. Withdrawn (talk) 22:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've compared Wikipedia with Commons and http://www.journeycheck.com/northernrail, which lists 523 stations (Chester-le-Street, Durham and Glasshoughton are missing, as is Runcorn which is seasonal and not currently operating, otherwise I assume their list is correct), and now the categories are at 528 and 526 stations; the differences between Wikipedia and Commons are that Dumfries is categorised in Wikipedia (one of 13 Scottish stations on the Newcastle - Carlisle - Glasgow service, others are not in the category) and Cramlington is not categorised in Commons (there's no category as there are no images). Should Dumfries and the other stations (Glasgow Central and all Glasgow South Western Line stations Barrhead to Gretna Green) be in the category or not? Withdrawn (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of stations called at 

message: Hi 
My name is Eoin Sandford and I work for a Public Relations company called MHP Communications in London. Arriva the transport company are a client of MHP. This morning edits were made to the page Arriva Rail North. A lot of the updated information on this page is factually incorrect and recent edits do not back up the edits with any reference. 
The page is incorrect as the franchise has not been awarded awarded to any company. On the announcement of the winning bidder this will be announced by the Department for Transport on their website as mentioned in the link above. The reason a request for amendment is being made is because this announcement is market sensitive - in that the announcement could potentially have commercial implications for all of the bidders, whether successful or not. This can be checked back with Department for Transport and we can provide a member of their team to confirm this.
I hope the Wiki Community can understand that this request for amendment or retraction is for the accuracy of Wikipedia and not commercial gain on the behalf of Arriva or MHP Communications. I am more than happy to fulfil any requests as per editors/administrators in the Wiki Community. I would also please ask for this request to be replied to as soon as possible due to the inaccuracy and complications for multiple companies and the government.
This morning edits were also made to other pages such as Abellio, Govia Northern, Future UK TOCS and Northern Rail in relation to the northern Franchise
Thanks
Eoin (Eoinsandford (talk) 12:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect information edited on Arriva Rail North Wiki Page 

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