Talk:Corvallis, Oregon

message: "About Corvallis URL accessed 11 May 2006" does not satisfy my reading of  WP:RS. The five entries citing that reference must be deleted unless reliable sources can  be found. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like a fine reference to me.  What part of WP:RS do you think it violates? VegaDark 03:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, now that I take another look at it I do see why there could be concerns.  It says "rumor and fact" for the claims on that page.  Does that mean that it is both rumor and fact, or that mean some of the claims are rumors and some are facts?  I would say we should try and find a better reference for the things that is used as a reference for, but I wouldn't necessarily say that what is currently there should be deleted, at least not for a week or so after cite needed tags have been placed on the info. VegaDark 03:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: this link rehashes the same claims made on that page without stating it as possible rumors, hence would pass WP:RS.  Odds are that they just got the info from that about Corvallis page in the first place though, but who knows. VegaDark 03:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It seems to me that this list is not verifiable in that it is not published by a reputable publisher. I don't know anything about the editorial standards of "Visit Corvallis Oregon" or "Coho Cohousing" web sites and I doubt that many of my fellow editors do either. By way of contrast, I have more confidence in the Corvallis Gazette-Times and I think it qualifies as a reliable source under Wikipedia guidelines. Moreover, I deem the list to be a compilation based on published news sources, if indeed it is accurate. Consequently, we editors need to track down those sources and cite them with their dates of publication so that they can be verified. Please see WP:V, also. Cite tags don't seem appropriate to me since the items are cited. My opinion is that the article would benefit from shorter, but better sourced and more notable list. I think it is telling that so many of the organizations allegedly conferring recognition are redlinked. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I added this section and I think everything that is sourced (which happens to be everything) should stay in the article, although I agree it would be better to merge the info into the body of the article. VegaDark 23:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though it's not the best example (because the Eugene article needs a lot of cleanup), Corvallis is similar to Eugene, Oregon in that it could stand to have a Community or Culture section to address the unique (read: countercultural) aspects of the city, and some of the rankings (bikes, vegetariansim) info could go in there. As long as it's not written like a review, of course. Sections like that tend to attract a lot of POV and original research. Katr67 23:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a lot needs to be written/rewritten, and hopefully the rankings section can be eliminated by the end if we can incorporate all the info to these sections. VegaDark 23:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Katr67 that it should be integrated. Also should "rankings" that are more than 5 years old be included? And shouldn't the OSU campus safety/beauty things go there and not on Corvallis? Aboutmovies 00:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rankings and recognition section 

message: Is this section even encyclopedic? I think any relevant info should be merged with the rest of the article and the section deleted. The article needs a history section, which when written could include a mention that "Corvallis has recieved many awards over the years, including blahblahblah", listing the more notable ones and citing the sources. Thoughts? Katr67 20:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added this section and I think everything that is sourced (which happens to be everything) should stay in the article, although I agree it would be better to merge the info into the body of the article. VegaDark 23:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though it's not the best example (because the Eugene article needs a lot of cleanup), Corvallis is similar to Eugene, Oregon in that it could stand to have a Community or Culture section to address the unique (read: countercultural) aspects of the city, and some of the rankings (bikes, vegetariansim) info could go in there. As long as it's not written like a review, of course. Sections like that tend to attract a lot of POV and original research. Katr67 23:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a lot needs to be written/rewritten, and hopefully the rankings section can be eliminated by the end if we can incorporate all the info to these sections. VegaDark 23:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Katr67 that it should be integrated. Also should "rankings" that are more than 5 years old be included? And shouldn't the OSU campus safety/beauty things go there and not on Corvallis? Aboutmovies 00:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisited

message: If any Wikipedian lives in Corvallis, is it possible that you could take some photographs that better represent what the town looks like apart from public buildings? Maybe some photos of the nature surrounding/included in the town, shots of long distance vistas, the main street(s), et cetera? Wowbobwow12 01:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More Photographs?

message: Lest there be any doubts about the 2000 pop, the Census says 49,322. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: I saw that someone had listed Corvallis for request for being listed as a C-Class Article. I figured I would give my assesment of this and hope for others responces back and mave the article forward. 
First thing straight from the criteria for the Start Class Article. An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and may require further reliable sources.
So here are things I see that fall in to this area. 
====Developing====
*History- The history section is in need of more developing as it is only 2 small paragraphs about it. Joseph C. Avery is mentioned as the founder of the town in 1845 or atleast settling there. the 1853 name change is mentioned along with the 1857 incorporation. Even the breif period of it being the territorial capital.What happened to Corvallis after 1857? did it instantly become the town we know today? Did it become a major logging hub, a transit hub? did it have anything to do with the riverboats like Albany or was it always a college town? The college would be a vital part of it history but if this is added be careful not to make it about the college as it has its own page to have that covered but noting its oragens might be good. Pretend you don't know anything about the town and you have to do a full page or 2 report on its history. Could you do that from what we have here?
*Goverment/Politics This section is lack luster. I know Corvallis had a mayor that was female and the longest running mayor of the city and that it two members of the city council who are from the green party Green Party. Has that been updated since the last election (AKA is that curent)? We need more though, does it have a home rule charter? And is it council-Manager run? How many council memebers and how long do they and the mayor stay in office for each term? Where is the city hall do they have one? (On a side note some of the Rankings and recognitions stuff could be placed in here instead of the R&R section if it is related to the government.) Let us know about ow this city runs and what the government provides for us.
*Education The education section is hard to make vary big in smaller towns but we could get a few more details. We know it has a higher education rate that is really good. Does it have public schools I would bet so but by reading this we would never know that? how many High schools?  What is the name of the school district? Does it have its own wiki that could be linked here with details about the achools? how long has it been serving the community? what are the Student populations of LBCC and OSU? moght be good information
*Infrastructure this could use some minor detailing like when the bridge was built. I know it is on the page for it but a minor note about it other then just its name under the bridge section would be good. Some blurb about the Corvallis ariport to again I know it is in its page but a small catcher so people will look deeper in to it?
*LISTS!!!! Listes aren't really what we needed at this point. They have given us details we need but need developed in to more formal statements now. The list of famus people can be put in to list of notable people from corvallis that is linked and this section can be developed in to statements about corvallis and it long list of people. 
for example:
With Oregon State University located in Corvallis it has a long history of residents becoming NFL players starting with (First NFL players name from Corvallis) back in 19XX leading through a long line of players such as (Name A), (Name B), (Name C), even including (Most famus Player from Corvallis).
just a thought on that something that would make it less a list and more a statement providing a bit more detail to it. makes it better to read.
*Rankings and recognition this section has been mentioned before and should be removed from here. Alot of this stuff could be moved to the right area 
Elample:
-1994: OSU named "Safest Pac-10 Campus" (University of Southern California study)[43] Should be moved to the OSU page if at all is it still the safest otherwise this is not relivent. At one time L.A. was safe those days have passed so not really of not anymore if that is the case.
-2009: In 2009, Corvallis High School won $20,000 in sustainability contest "America's Most Eco-Friendly School". Move to school district page
-2008: On February 18, 2008, Corvallis was named the fifth smartest city in America by Forbes Online Magazine. move to education section and work it in
They can all be worked in to make it seem a bit better. Also keep it encyclopedic. it is not a competioning to prove one city better then another. 
====reliable sources====
I'll keep it quick here. 
Sections missing some sourcing:
*Notable works of fiction - Could use a little sourcing
* Notable people - nothing is sourced. Though I have no reason to dispute any of them I don't have and proof they are related to this town either.
*Infrastructure
*Sports'''
Now on to the things that look like it is C-Class.  straight from the criteria for the C-Class Article. The article is substantial, but is still missing important content or contains a lot of irrelevant material. The article should have references to reliable sources, but may still have significant issues or require substantial cleanup.
====Substantial====
*Geography it is small but it is a hard section to make really large so I would say it will pass for C-Class
*Demographics it is got enough detail to pass but lets get the 2010 stuff added in too.
*Economy again hard to get on a small town it will pass for C-Class but lets keep moving forward.
*Infrastructure though there are a few areas that need work it has a realy good start to it. 
====Good sourcing====
*Rankings and recognition lots of good sources but lets get these shifted to there needed locations.
*Water/Greenpower got good amount of sources for there areas too.
*Arts and culture has good sourcing but lets get it off the list and in to a good set of statements about them. Let us really know Corvallis.
*Economy Good to go on sources.
*Demographics got some good sources here too. needs the 2010 stuff as mentioned before.
*History got the sources for the info that is there. 
====conclusion====
After reviewing all this I would say it is borardering on the C-Class but needs those thing to be fixed up a bit first. with a few people and a few days of fixing it up it will ne ready in my opinion. Let me know what you all thing. MathewDill (talk) 17:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  C-Class Article 

message: After reviewing all this I would say it is borardering on the C-Class but needs those thing to be fixed up a bit first. with a few people and a few days of fixing it up it will ne ready in my opinion. Let me know what you all thing. MathewDill (talk) 17:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: conclusion