Talk:Saint Silvester Road Race

message: "Road race" gives the impression of an automobile race. Shouldn't this article's title be changed to "Saint Silvester marathon"? --Wloveral (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * A marathon is 42.195 km long. The Saint Silvester (15 km) isn't even a half-marathon. Whoever calls it a marathon is incorrect. The term road race is correct, regardless of the kind of race. -- (Fbergo (talk) 00:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Glad to know. Thanks. --Wloveral (talk) 01:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race is called a marathon in Brazil 

message: There are Saint Silvester Road Races/Marathons around the world. I know at least those held in Spain and Portugal.Miguel in Portugal (talk) 15:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, if any of them meet the threshold of notability, they might be included as well, but not on this specific article.  We will need to decide which one is the most widely, commonly known race generally speaking, or of greater importance in the Athletics calendar.  That one would be the entry to use the simpler title.  For the moment, I will assume that it is this one.  That being the case, an article on another Saint Silvester race might be placed at a title like "Saint Silvester Road Race (Portugal)", or with the specific city name in the title.  We would add a disambiguation note to the top of both articles, so that readers can know and find both.  If there are multiple races that can be included (not all races might meet the notability standards), we would create a disambiguation page, probably named "Saint Silvester Road Race (disambiguation)", and disambiguation notes would be added to all the articles, pointing to the disambiguation article (probably using the "other uses" template that we have).  Redux (talk) 17:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The most commonly known races in Portugal are São Silvestre da Amadora and Porto, and in Spain is that from Madrid. Since Brazil is a country with a larger population São Paulo's race may be the most widely known. All the races usually invite olympic stars and world champions. For example, Porto's race was won by Portuguese olympic athlete Rui Silva last December.See this link. - it is in Portuguese, but since you are a fellow lusophone you will understand. Miguel in Portugal (talk) 19:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the São Paulo race only. If you want, write articles about the other races as separate articles (possibly São Silvestre Road Race (Porto) and so on). The São Paulo one is the most important, so it's fair that it keeps the main title without parenthesis. Currently there is a disambiguation link to the Vallencana race. When there are more São Silvestre race articles, we can add a disambiguation article with all the possibilities, and link it from the top of this one. I am removing the comments about the other races from this article. Fbergo (talk) 15:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is the case of actually creating other articles, we should use the naming scheme I mentioned.  In gauging whether or not any given event meets minimal standards of notability, check our general notability guideline, as well as the rest of that page's content.  In addition, we should use common sense in determining if any given event is relevant enough to deserve a separate entry on Wikipedia.  If there are a few minor events that we can acknowledge, then this minor acknowledgement could be done either here on this article or in the disambiguation page I mentioned above  -- a disambiguation page serves the main purpose of pointing to disambiguated entries (articles), but it can also be used to make notes on minor uses (in this case, sporting events named "Saint Sylvester Race" that are not relevant enough to be given a separate entry).  Our ultimate goal is to make Wikipedia as complete and as impartial as possible, but within certain parameters, and creating a separate entry for every single event, even if they are very small and localized, does not necessarily accomplishes that goal.  It doesn't mean that information gets excluded, just that it gets included differently.  Redux (talk) 01:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Worlwide view