Talk:Rupert Brooke

message: Hard to believe no one has entered anything here before now.  Anyway, I'm thinking the only real difference between Rupert Brooke and someone like Siegfried Sassoon or Wilfred Owen is that he never got the reality check the others did.  Or is that a rather facile point that has been made many times before? --Cranston Lamont 15:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "What if's" are very dangerous. We can't know what he would have done so making assumptions we can't support is a mistake in an encyclopedia. Alci12 23:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what talk pages are for. -- Cranston Lamont 21:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think it would be wise to add Brooke to that category. He was clearly what we would call "bisexual" today. 
V. Joe 20:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although there's no reference to it in the text itself (which I am unwilling to modify) it's true and deserves to be left in.  No expert would dispute the label. 69.216.116.111 00:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I too have always accepted his bisexuality as a given, and am surprised the article has no mention of it. Does no one have a quotable source? BrainyBabe (talk) 05:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Don't have the attribution right to hand, but in his letters he tells the story of seducing a friend's older brother one bored afternoon.Zythe (talk) 10:17, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

text:  I put this two, but it was reverted. Both talk about his bisexuality...--88marcus (talk) 22:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  One is a blog, the other is a work of fiction, both unacceptable per WP:RS.--Galassi (talk) 01:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

text:  Despite the rushed, unsatisfactory night in his bedroom at the Orchard, the two remained good friends and did not speak of the moment again. As far as can be ascertained it was Brooke's only real homosexual experience, apart from schoolboy experimentation at Rugby.  
* On p. 348 there is further discussion of homosexual rumours. His literary executor Edward "Eddie" Marsh, who knew him for 10 years and was gay himself, wrote in 1947 ... during all the years when I've known him I never saw the slightest reason for thinking he had a "homosexual streak".  
* Brooke excited the interest of many people, of both sexes, and various men made their attraction to him known to him, hoping for reciprocity, but with the exception noted above he always rebuffed such advances. All of his serious amorous attentions were directed towards women: Noel Olivier, Ka Cox, Cathleen Nesbitt, Phyllis Gardner, Taatamata, and others.  His one-off moments with boys and Russell-Smith were clearly normal experimentation, and do not support a conclusion of homo- or even bi-sexuality.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 17:43, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

text:  Accordingly, I have removed references to his supposed bisexuality from the article.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: And why not also remove the LGBT project from this page? 86.148.182.127 (talk) 19:37, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. And the irrelevant category has gone too. There are far too many articles with these unnecessary categories and project assignments. On the Talk:Michael Portillo page someone made the remark "Everyone eats food, so no-one would claim that is sufficient to make someone relevant to the Food and drink project. "; a good point. 86.148.182.127 (talk) 23:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: English LGBT

message: This is associated with the following text from the main article "...resulting in the breakdown of his long relationship with Ka Cox.", it could be just my own naiveté, but I researched the name "Ka Cox" and could not verify who this person is. Who is "Ka Cox"? Is this truly a person?Sea Wolf (talk) 02:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the ODNB "Katherine (Ka) Laird Cox (1887–1938)", possibly had a still-born son by Brooke in 1912.  I've tried to spell this out in the article. David Underdown (talk) 10:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ka Cox

message: Under popular culture is included, "The 2011 novel "The Stranger's Child" by Booker prize winning British novelist Alan Hollinghurst features fictional War Poet Cecil Valance who is based on Brooke". This links to James Wood's New Yorker review where Cecil Valance is described as "a Rupert Brooke-like poet". This is not the same thing at all as being "based on Brooke", and having read The Stranger's Child the comparison is obviously false (and beside the point). Valance is like Brooke only insofar as he is a) privileged, b) bisexual, c) a poet and d) victim of an early death. In The Stranger's Child Brooke is referenced as being known by Valance, though in the context of the novel Valance is clearly the lesser poet. Valance is referred to later as "a less neurotic – and less talented – epigone of Brooke", and given the difference in their output and talents, even within the context of the novel, the point is that Valance is a considerably less significant poetic talent than Brooke. I have changed this entry accordingly.Cerreno (talk) 22:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hollinghurst's The Stranger's Child 

message: "Virginia Woolf boasted to Vita Sackville-West of once going skinny-dipping with Brooke in a moonlit pool when they were at Cambridge together." This implies VW was a student at Cambridge University, which is not the case. Does anyone know what she was doing there? Visiting her brother, maybe? Tsuguya (talk) 09:41, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Virginia Woolf

message: I've just returned the birthplace to being the same as the source, 5 Hillmorton Rd. It had been changed to "113 Lode Road in Bottisham, Cambs" without any source. Something to look out for as this isn't the first time I've found the page showing an unsourced birthplace address. Stuartea (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace - possible vandalism

message: I'm almost positive that Radar O'Reilly read the poem "A Channel Passage" and not "Love" in the episode "Springtime."   I remember the comedic content was that he was trying to win the heart of a nurse he was attracted to by reading a poem to her, and then the poem is about getting seasick and throwing up. (But she throws herself on him in passion anyway.)  I can't find any references (other than people's blog entries) to support this or any videos of that episode to support my claim, here, but I'm _positive_ this was the poem. Can anyone help find a citation that would support this correction?  Cvkline (talk) 04:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Brooke poem read in the M*A*S*H episode 

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message: The name of the statue (pictured in the article) in Brooke Square on Skyros is variously given as the Ideal Poet, the Eternal Poet or the Immortal Poet.  Some words on the statute, and its name, would be welcome.  According to the photo caption of 
this page, the statue "has a inscription on its base in both English and Greek which reads: To Rupert Brooke the young English poet, who was a noble friend of Greece and of immortal poetry." Scarabocchio (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brooke Square, and the Immortal/Ideal/Eternal Poet statue