Talk:Independent Police Complaints Commission

message: Is this 'all heap copious praise on the IPCC for its supine willingness to assist' really apprpriate for a neutral article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.61.226 (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so - I've removed it. Actually, that whole section is dubious - the references given don't seem to back up the claims they're supposed to. If better references can't be supplied, the whole section should be removed. Terraxos (talk) 02:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Praise 

message: The edit by 195.92.40.49 at 14:49, 19 September 2007 has added what sounds like corporate mission or value statements and targets, e.g. "The IPCC is committed to getting closer to the communities it serves" and "The IPCC ... aims to make investigations more open, ...".  Not sure if this is appropriate for wikipedia, though that edit has some useful corrections in so probably shouldn't be completely reverted. MBThomas (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mission Statement 

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message: I would suggest the creation of such a section.93.96.148.42 (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For one thing, someone must surely have pointed out in a citable source that the fact the commissioners are appointed by the Home Secretary, whose political future depends largely on maintaining the public standing of the police, creates a fundamental and irresolvable conflict of interest. Given that the commission isn't independent of the effective boss of the police (no doubt there is a standard issue denial that the Home Secretary is any such thing, but that is an insult to the public's intelligence), the use of the word "Independent" in this organization's name is either staggeringly naive or utterly cynical.  "Government Police Complaints Commission" would be more appropriate. Alex Middleton (talk) 17:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And I'm not even a Guardian reader, I'm a small-c conservative who had confidence in the police for most of my life, and has lost it in the last few years, like many other law abiding people in this decaying country. Alex Middleton (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems sensible.  this would make a good start at least. Any more sources? Smartse (talk) 22:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I was informed by Inspector Keith Cassels of Hertfordshire Proffesional Standards Dept(PSD) that it was Independent because it had Independent in the name! The article doesn't make clear that is actually the Profesional Standards Divisions of the force that you complain about that will actually pretend to do the investigation. I actually sent in a complaint to the IPCC that 2 PSDs had failed to respond to a complaint that was sent in via the IPCC the IPCC forwarded it to the PSDs to investigate. They claim that they will only pass comment when the PSD finish the complaint, which they will never do so the complaint will not be investigated. Great hey.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 15:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Worth including in this section would be that that, of 29,000 complaints made against police (2007-2008), only 100 of them were actually investigated  solely by the IPCC. Another 397 were overseen by them in some capacity, constituting only 1.71% of complaints in total. Citation is point 4 here - it would be really good if anyone who's interested in this section could add citations here, and then we could more easily build the section. I would create the section now, but there doesn't seem much point when I can only cite this single complaint. Apparently, 89% of complaints against the police are deemed “unsubstantiated”, however I suspect rtaylor's website would not be considered a valid cite (self-published, yada, yada, yada) so if anyone is able to follow this up with an official source, that would be great. Stroller (talk) 00:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Seconded Turkeyphant 13:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thirded - criticisms section sorely needed. Out of the hundreds of complaints the IPCC has dealt with, only a tiny tiny proportion have resulted in any kind of action against the police officers accused. The role of the IPCC is to 'deal with' complaints by sweeping them under the carpet. Vorpaul (talk) 13:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism of the IPCC

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message: There should be some mention of the IPCC's extraordinarily poor performance in the Mark Duggan case, where it persistently mishandled communications with Duggan's family, and ultimately was not able to explain any of the peculiar anomalies in the case.  This presumably played a role in the IPCC's abolition... AnonMoos (talk) 09:34, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Duggan case 

message: The new police used force to arrest me and almost killed me by forcing there knee in my neck I want justice it’s all on video 2600:8807:5880:2300:9987:194:F117:8E85 (talk) 22:29, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Police beat me up