Talk:Modelguns

message: I own Pinfire Guns USA, Inc.(www.PinfireGuns.com), and I'm trying to find a company to manufacture our 2 inch miniature 2mm Pinfire Xythos 6 shot Automatic revolver, and the tiny metal 2mm Pinfire caps that it fires. We are the only company in the world left that mass produces the smallest, working Xythos Automatic Revolver, and we are looking to increase our line of guns to include other miniature 2mm Pinfire Guns, like a miniature flare kit, that can be kept in your pocket, clipped to the zipper on your ski jacket, or attached to your boat keys. It will come in a waterproof, pelican type, flotation case that will be smaller than a pack of cigarettes (approx. 4"x2"x1"), will include the small 2 inch (1⅝"x¼") steel revolver with a detachable key-chain, a flare attachment that screws onto the front of the barrel (like a suppressor), TEN 9mm flares, TWENTY-FIVE  2mm blank pinfire caps (1 cap is needed to fire each flare), along with a small tool for the tiny gun. 
Our working miniature 2mm Pinfire guns are not considered firearms in the US, and we have found that they are normally NOT considered weapons in most other countries as well. In the United States, they are considered just a novelty (like a cap gun), or signaling device (like a starter pistol, or flare gun), and are sold as such. We have shipped these incredibly popular guns to countries from Austria, and Australia, to New Zealand, and Qatar, from The UK, to China, and from Chili, to Russia, we have sold to former, retired and current Law Enforcement, Military, Celebraties, Kings, Princes, Ambassadors, all types of royalty, notable dignitaries, hobbiests, and collectors from all over the world, with no issues, or complaints from anyone.  We did lose a package to China once (we guarantee delivery), but they received the order when we reshipped it for free.  We do this, because we love these amazing little 2mm Pinfire guns, and the hobby of collecting and making new guns, these are the little guns with the BIG BANG! 
The 2mm Pinfire cartridge dates all the way back to the US Civil War, to a French gunmaker who invented the Pinfire cartridge, and to an Austrian watchmaker that miniaturized it to 2mm.  In the beginnings of Gunsmithing, an apprentice gunsmith would have to be knowledgeable of all firearms, not just one type or style, and to become a full fledged Gunsmith, they would need to show their skills by hand crafting any gun, at any scale, when called upon to do so.  Later on, these would also be used by traveling salesmen, so they could carry a working example of all the different models that they sold, but at a fraction of the size and weight. In more recent times, watchmakers have gotten into the game, and they started making them as watch fobs, and as working "Muff Guns" for women to carry in their fur "muffs" or mittens, so if they were ever to be cornered in a dark ally, by a stranger, they could fire a cap off to get the attention of people nearby, and hopefully scare off any would've assailant.  Due to the size of the gun, the very tiny amount of energy that is given off by the cap, less than 1 joule (0.97 joule), and other reasons, there is no paperwork, or background check required to manufacture, purchase, sell, or even carry one of these miniature guns, and the 2mm caps. After years of testing these guns, and the blanks, which contain 0 gunpowder, we believe these to be safer than even the snap caps that are popular with children today. The caps actually use a very similar compound as the snap caps, and we believe them to be just as safe as those.  
We are looking for manufacturing partners that would be as excited about these great little guns, as much as we are, and who have experience in manufacturing, fabricating, or production of small metal stamped items, like miniature cap guns, or real guns, or if they have any gunsmithing, pyrotechnics, or cartridge manufacturing in their background. We eventually want to bring all of the manufacturing of the 2mm Pinfire guns, blank caps, flares, and other accessories to a packaging partner, or in-house to cut our high cost of purchasing these items from manufactures that have been making them in house for themselves for dozens of years.  We need someone that we can grow with, and that will grow with us.  We are also looking to manufacture other models, such as the Xythos Flare Kit, a Berloque Flare Kit, and other types that look like some of today's favorite firearms out there.  We do not require that you be a larger company than ours, or need you to be a smaller company, just a responsible company year holds a good work ethic, open mind, and can imagine with us, things that do not exist in the world today, or things that do exist, but we want to make them much smaller.  Things like a 7 inch 2mm Pinfire rifle that uses a revolver cylinder, or under hammer strike to fire the caps.  We are the people that looked at a pen and thought, "Hey, let's put a cylinder on the end of that so we can shoot it!", and then made a dozen of them by hand, from scratch.  
Most of our guns are currently completely hand crafted with hand tools, no CNC here, jewelry hand saws, hand drills, and pedal lathe. ALL of the limited edition guns are made one at a time and some, like the Parrot Head gun, can take up to 2-3 WEEKS to make EACH ONE. When you hold the guns side by side, you can see that no 2 are truly alike, and are never mass produced.  Currently, only our Xythos, and Berloques are mass produced. The tolerances of these guns is greatly reduced, as the scale is reduced.  Most of our guns are between 1½" and 4" in length, and about ¼" thick. We also hand-craft a series of limited-edition SPY GUNS, which includes a Zippo Lighter Gun, a Pen Gun, a Watch Gun, a Ring Gun, a Car Alarm Remote Gun, and an Eagle Medallion Gun. These are editions have been limited and numbered up to only 20 guns per type. However, we also have made other small runs of guns including single shot Berloques, Elgin Cutlass, two types of Pepperbox guns, a C-93 Borchandt with pre-ban Ivory grips, 24K gold plated Chicago Palm Pistols, some solid steel, engraved, Parrot Head guns with MOP grips, some miniature 2mm Pinfire, AND 2mm Rimfire NAA Pug style guns, miniature 4" Kentucky Rifles, with MOP stocks, with matching removable bayonets, some 24k gold pltd Shotguns, about a dozen polished Stainless Steel, Matte Black, and 24K gold pltd AK-47's,  we released a limited edition line of Glock style guns, with black, and limited edition 24K gold pltd interchangeable grips, and my personal favorites our newest Colt 1911 style miniature 2mm Pinfire guns that we will be releasing this coming week for sale.  
I'm sure I've missed a lot of information, but what would we have to speak about when you contact us.  We want to leave a little to the imagination.  We are looking for a long term business partner, NOT an investor, we are looking for a company that will be able to help us grow from our first run of 2mm Pinfire caps, to being there for to watch our 100 thousandth miniature coming off the line. We are a business, NOT a hobby, and are looking for the same. We need someone right away, as we already have a working prototype of our Xythos Revolver Flare Kit, and a few other guns that will be produced in larger quantities. So, if you are interested, and think you could be the one, or EVEN if you think that you know someone, who's brothers, cousin, has a friend, who's sister is seeing someone, who might be able to help us, PLEASE let us know! 
You can visit our website at www.PinfireGuns.com, or join our 50,000+ FaceBook fans on our Facebook page at www.FaceBook.com/PinfireGuns, and see for yourself, just what makes us tick, I think you'll like what you find.  Please, send any email inquiries to Info@PinfireGuns.com with the subject heading: Manufacturing.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and if you passed this along, shared, or reposted this, we greatly appreciate it.  
Sincerely,
John Hines
CEO/Founder
Pinfire Guns USA, Inc.
PinfireGuns.com
Info@PinfireGuns.com
 Fletch (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for manufacture of 2mm Pinfire