Template talk:Bibleref

message: It would be nice to reference translations by name, but I can't immediately see how to do that.
--David.alex.lamb 16:52, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other 

message: I have some concerns that the website that the template links to (BibleGateway) only lists Conservative Protestant translations. None of the more critical modern translations are listed, and nor are any Catholic, Jewish, or Jehovah's witness, translations listed.
Major Translations that Bible Gateway does NOT list:
*New Jewish Publication Society of America Version (Old Testament only)
*New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Jehovah's witnesses)
*New Jerusalem Bible (Catholic)
*New American Bible (Catholic)
*New Living Translation (Evangelical)
*New Revised Standard Version (Critical and Ecumenical, also officially accepted by Catholics, Protestants, and the Orthodox)
Is it possible to create a page somehow, like Special:Booksources for online Bible translations? That would be more neutral, I think. 
This is, for example, noticable with , which doesn't exist in Protestant bibles but does in Catholic, Orthodox, and Jewish ones. Clinkophonist 13:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: New Living Translation and New Revised Standard Version are now included. See http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/ Afaprof01 01:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

text: There also no Eastern Orthodox translation. --Ephilei (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are very few soources which supply verses from the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical works. In particular, although the King James Bible does include the Apocrypha, these books are excluded by the source used for the KJV. Perhaps there could be a more inclusive online KJV which could be used? TomS TDotO (talk) 18:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  uses biblestudytools.com, which includes several versions of the Apocrypha including NRSV, and the Complete Jewish Bible. I'm not familiar enough with Orthodox or JW translations to recognise them on that site (following on from the above, there is NRSV but no New World). I also don't know what the copyright status of that website is. Hairy Dude (talk) 03:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. But I see that I didn't make my difficulty clear. I was in the process of expanding on the article Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible by making references from the Apocrypha. My intent was to follow the pattern established in the article, which used the template "bibleref", which gives pointers to many different versions of the Bible for a particular passage. However, this template gives only a very few versions for passages from the Apocrypha (in particular, it does not give the KJV for the Apocrypha). My understanding (which may be mistaken - I'd be happy to hear that I am wrong!) is that the template "bibleverse" requires that one specify one particular version, rather than a range of versions as "bibleref" does. My solution to my difficulty was to stick with "bibleref" and its impoverished selection of versions of the Apocrypha, and to supplement that with a link to Wikisource, which gives more versions (but not of individual passages), including the KJV, of the Apocrypha. TomS TDotO (talk) 13:18, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: Spaces need to be replaced with underscores or something on the linking bit
* = 31 2_Samuel 1:1
* = Samuel%201:1&version=31 2 Samuel 1:1
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinkophonist (talk • contribs) 16:10, April 12, 2006 
We still have issues with spaces.
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Phatom87 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bug

message: Template talk:Bibleverse is in my mind a more general template, and if merging were to occur it would be into that one, not into this one. It for instance allows for non-biblegateway.com sources, which have been commented on above. Ansell 23:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the ease of writing worth the hassle of both maintaining two templates, and using two templates for what is essentially one purpose (bibleverse is more general). Ansell Review my progress! 00:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: See merge discussion on Bibleverse template

message: I stumbled upon an advertisement for this page which an editor had convieniently placed on a user talk page without remembering to put a link to it here. Vote stacking is bad, but this is a relevant discussion to this template, and hence I am doing this here and not on selected talk pages. Ansell 10:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notification about Wikipedia:Citing sources/Bible 

message: 
The link to The Message needs to be disambiguated to The Message (Bible).  The link to ABS almost certainly should be disambiguated to American Bible Society, although that line of the template is not particularly clear anyway.  --Russ (talk) 20:26, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --- RockMFR 22:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: I propose modifying the template to link to wikipedia in the text and create a footnote that links to a few different versions plus the tool on usyd.edu.au which shows multiple versions. For example:
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There is an example of the proposed complete replacement for . You can see the code in my user sandbox which will be modified to handle all the cases that are included in  before being implemented. 
Note that the template links to the article on the specific verse, if it exists, or to the chapter, if the verse doesn't exist and the chapter does, or to the article on the book. If no article exists even on the book it will link in the text to wikisource. However, the footnote links to various online versions of the Bible - including some that provide excellent tools for study. --Trödel 15:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, what? You seem to have used your personal sandbox to define a template, then overwritten it, making the above incomprehensible. (You also didn't close your  box, btw, so I took the liberty of closing your div, which would have forced later comments to go inside the box.) Hairy Dude (talk) 03:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modification to the template