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Talk:Okiek people

message: *The Akiek, who live in Tanzania, are ethnically and linguistically related to the Ogiek of Kenya, and for that reason they are often considered a division of the Ogiek (e.g. by Corinne Kratz (1999), online version), and also Franz Rottland (1982). 
*Based on Rainer en Vossen (1977) and Rottland (1982) I would consider this Ethnologue page erroneous. Mosiro is an Akie clan name according to both of these sources, so that would make Mosiro a subgroup of Akie. 
*Finally, I think the Akie and Akiek are just the same. The introductory paragraph of Ogiek language, based on Rottland (1982), speaks of the Akiek of Kinare (Kenya) and the Akiek of Tanzania, but the distinction is only made there because the two shifted to different languages. The articles Akie and Akiek therefore will have to be merged. I wouldn't know what the best name is, although I would tend to go for Akie.
*Summarizing: Okiek (or Ogiek, as the people themselves prefer) is the most inclusive term. The Akiek are often distinguished from the Ogiek because they live somewhat removed from the Kenyan Ogiek groups. And Mosiro is the least inclusive term, being confined only to a small portion of the Tanzanian Akiek. — mark ✎ 14:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akie/ Akiek /Ogiek/ Okiek/ Mosiro 

message: Given the significance of the subject and the long bibliography, this article is much too short. Miniapolis 19:16, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs expansion  

message: Akiek people do not exist as a group or subgroup of Ogiek or Akie people. See this talk page discussion. ~Cherri of Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:39, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed references to "Akiek" as a subgroup
Talk:Akiek people

message: I've been looking around and I can't find any convincing evidence of an "Akiek" people existing anywhere in reliable sources. It appears to be just another name for the Ogiek and Akie peoples, two related but distinct ethnic groups living in southern Kenya and northern Tanzania respectively.
The first source in this article, Tanzania And Its People by David Lawrence, was cited by just 28 other papers according to Google Scholar. The book was self-published rather than being published through any academic source, and I could not confirm whether or not David Lawrence is a subject matter expert because his name is so generic it gets hundreds of hits for dozens of different David Lawrences in various databases.
The second source in this article, UNESCO's Observatory on Multilingualism, says that Akiek is just an alternate name for the Akie language, similarly to "Mósiro", though in that case Mósiro tends to refer to an Akie clan. Thus far I have not found any evidence for an Akiek clan.
A now-dead website named OGIEK is linked to on the article, but it does not mention the Akiek either. It also doesn't mention the Akie, but this is likely because the website was for an indigenous rights organization in Kenya, so either of those would've been out of scope. Especially the Akie, who live in Tanzania.
According to page 830 of Indigenous Peoples - An Encyclopedia of Culture, History, and Threats to Survival written by Victoria R. Williams and published by ABC-CLIO, "Akiek" is just an another name for the Ogiek people.
Lastly, page 30 of Nancy C. Dorian's book Investigating Obsolescence: Studies in Language Contraction and Death mentions two distinct groups she refers to as Akiek; one in Kenya and one in Tanzania. These two groups appear to match the descriptions of the Ogiek and Akie peoples respectively, and this is further implied by the lack of any reference to the Ogiek/Okiek or the Akie throughout the book. As such, it's likely that these two groups are the Ogiek and Akie. The book was published by Cambridge University Press and the author is a renowned subject matter expert, so this source is almost certainly reliable.
Other sources on the subject appear to be from self-published sources with few other publications citing them for information, or they use Akiek to refer to the Ogiek or Akie peoples.
In conclusion, I think it's quite clear that the "Akiek" do not actually exist as an independent group or subgroup of the Ogiek or Akie peoples, and that Akiek is just another name for those two groups. As such, I'll be turning Akiek people into a disambiguation page for the two groups. ~Cherri of Arctic Circle System (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Akiek" is just another name for the Ogiek and Akie peoples
Talk:353rd Special Operations Wing

message: A nice start, for details and length. Needs some reformatting though. Firstly, there should be an introduction, at least two sentences. "The 353d Special Operations Group is..." When were they formed? Which conflicts did they take part in? Why are they significant or notable? Secondly, the prose paragraph sections should come above the detail lists. Just looks better, reads better, that way. Third, a lot of these detail lists should be converted into proper prose text. Right now, very little of the article is written out in full, proper sentences. This goes for the Operations section, and particularly for the Lineage and Assignments sections. LordAmeth 13:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not even clear until half way down the article that they are american!! Even then I won't completely rule out the possibility I might have made a mistake, though I doubt it. Mathmo Talk 05:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WP:MILHIST Assessment

message: This article doesn't explain why this organization is notable.  I'm not sure it is, outside of a smal specialty group.--Vidkun 20:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  notability? 

message: This article talks about the time period when the 353rd was consolidated with the 553rd Recon Wing, but lists units under the recon wing as having been under the SOG.  In fact, if you look up the 553rd recon wing on wikipedia, it's redirected to this page.  According to this site the 353rd was disestablished in 1948, the 553rd was activated in 1967, deactivated in 1970; with 3rd ACG being activated and consolidated with the re-established 55rd in 1985, and was immediately reflagged as the 353rd Recon Wing.  This article makes it look like the 353rd has an unbroken lineage that includes the 553rd and 554th Spec Ops Sqdns, when those never existed. revising and extending remarks I've done a little more research, and it seems that the USAF uses two digit unit designations as a "parent" or lineage place holder, as this shows that the 54th Airlift Flight (a unit smaller than a squadron) traces its lineage to a couple of X54th units.  So, now the question is, how do we show units as having been subordinate to a historical predecessor of a current unit?--Vidkun (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unit Lineage issues
Talk:Leyland Atlantean

message: I would challenge the opening premise of the Leyland Atlantean article that "In the years immediately following the Second World War bus operators in the UK faced a downturn in the numbers of passengers carried". UK statistics would demonstrate that such a downturn began eight years later, in 1953. 
Perhaps, then, a main driver for the development of the Atlantean wasn't a response to falling passenger numbers so much as gaining operational efficiency by using as much internal space as possible, there being a relaxation in 1966 of the permissible overall double deck vehicle length to 30 ft. Omnibuses (talk) 07:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening

message: I just added a photo of the badge on Sydney 1224. Anybody know what the design represents? It appears to be Atlas holding up a map of the world, with some countries coloured in. Shrdlu junction (talk) 23:53, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Atlas isn't holding up a map of the world - he's supporting the entire planet. See Atlas (mythology)#Punishment. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Badge

message: Storstockholms Lokaltrafik (Greater Stockholm Transit Authority) purchased 50 Leyland Atlantean/1967 Vagnförteckningsblad H35 (Class H35 data sheet)/Storstockholms Lokaltrafik September 1, 1968. They were put into comission when Sweden changed from left hand traffic to right hand traffic September 3, 1967 and were in service to about 1976 (hence a rather short service life). Theese buses might warrant a note, since I believe they were rather different from other Atlanteans. Obviously they were built for right hand traffic, but they seem to have been unusually long as well; 11.125 metres Class H35 data sheet as above..
3 buses are preserved, all in servicable condition.
213.112.227.4 (talk) 21:19, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alantean for Stockholm 

message: ATC281 was the 78 seater Atlantean prototype and it had an 0:600 engine.
I shall get round to a rewrite of the opening paragraph based on The Leyland Bus soon as I can
Stephen Allcroft (talk) 16:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that the prototype was registered 281 ATC, not ATC281; and the engine was O.600, not 0:600 - the first character is a capital letter O, designating Oil (i.e. Diesel) fuel; and the 600 means a displacement of . It did have 78 seats though - Metro-Cammell H44/34F. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The is a prototype missing
Talk:Shurugwi Rural Areas

message: I placed the clean up tag on this page.  There are quite a few sentences that don't make sense.  I don't know enough to make sense of it. -Fermion 07:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some serious cleanup of this article.  It still could use more work, of course, but maybe we could remove the cleanup tag.  --67.142.130.41 23:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up tag

message: pliz help 41.150.217.252 (talk) 07:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Im looking for my family ichachach shurugwi Christopher Ndlovu and his brother charles Ndlovu christopher was a police in kariba and charles was a soldier  their father was my grandfather Makuwelele Ndlovu
Talk:Economy of Houston

message: Is there a more representative photo to use at the top of this article than ConocoPhilipsHQ.JPG? It's a picture of a guard station and some trees!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.46.75.6 (talk) 18:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Should the lead mention that Houston is in Texas? The lead should read "The economy of Houston, Texas is primarily based..." instead of "The economy of Houston is primarily based..." Piguy101 (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioning the state in the lead 
Talk:SS Europa (1928)

message: I've tagged the article with , however, I believe I can source much of it with Fifty Famous Liners by Frank O. Braynard and William H. Miller.  Just not this evening.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good.  I'll look for more and better sources on the internet.  Gunbirddriver (talk) 01:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I saw your clean ups, SchuminWeb.  Those all look like good changes.  Do you think we are ready to remove the Refimprove tag? Gunbirddriver (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we're there just yet.  I've fact-tagged places where there should be a citation, and now it's just a matter of putting sources in those places.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refimprove tag 

message: It has been suggested the article on USS Europa (AP-177), the designation given the ship while it was in service as a troop transport following the war, be merged with the article on the ship Europa proper.   I think the two should be merged, as they are the same vessel.  Gunbirddriver (talk) 20:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Seems a no-brainer, especially since the ship was built as a passenger vessel, was a passenger vessel before the war, and again a passenger vessel after the war.  It served as a transport the way a number of other ships did - because extra trooping capacity was needed due to the war.  It's a similar situation as the SS Imperator, which was a German passenger ship, seized by the US for trooping purposes, run as such during the war, and then afterwards handed over as reparations to an allied country.  In Imperator's case, there is no separate article, and the title for a military article redirects to the main article - like it should be.  There's really no reason for Europa to have two articles.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with USS Europa (AP-177) 

message: The Willoughby work looks like a good reference.  It would be best to use it as such to support the text of the article.  Gunbirddriver (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Reading 

message: I have changed Was largest German ship built during the 1930s to "during the interwar period".--Adûnâi (talk) 17:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Built during the 1930s"
Talk:Kevin Alejandro

message: He also appeared in Season 2 Episode 2 of Burn Notice in 2008, playing the character of Raul. WhyDoICaree (talk) 07:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career
Talk:Farndon, Nottinghamshire

message: I would have to dispute the date given for the opening of the new primary school, which I attended. As I recall, this was being built at the same time as Staythorpe B Power station around 1958-9. I left the old school and moved to the new one after my third primary class year, in 1958-9, and left the primary school proper in the summer of 1961. Therefore, on this basis it must have been built before 1958.
Regarding Bernard Jackson, who was headmaster, I entirely agree with the comments made previously about him being a strict disciplinarian. He always wore a light brown checked jacket with leather elbow pads. More details would be helpful. regards Peter morrell 07:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary School
Talk:Peppercorn (law)

message: Isn't this basically "nominal consideration"?  --Eastlaw 08:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Isn't this basically "nominal consideration"?  --Eastlaw 08:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I removed some unsourced info about the history of the term.  It was of dubious accuracy anyway, as the term "peppercorn" refers to consideration that is close to, but not quite, worthless; it doesn't make sense that it would have meant the same thing in the Middle Ages when pepper was supposedly valuable. --Guido del Confuso 21:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So does anyone have a source for the origin of the term? --adavidw 03:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Oxford English Dictionary says that it originates in the late 18th century, which is more in keeping with the history of pepper!  I would assume it was literal originally.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the term 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose.  Peppercorn consideration may be a type of nominal consideration, but it is notable enough in the history of English law to merit its own article. --Friejose (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: No offense to the "Minority Law Student Association" or the "Hispanic Law Student Association" but lecture notes they post, which were presumably compiled by law students, are NOT proper citations for this or any legal topic.  Could someone please work on this?207.181.213.51 (talk) 02:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources Cited Here 

message: I have just removed the reference improvement tag from the article.  It was added by  in November 2011 when the article looked like this, with 2 references and a bare url and some unincorporated references listed as resources.  Here is the cumulative change to the present version with 15 references including at least one inline citation per paragraph.  I am posting here in case anyone has any objections to my action.  EdChem (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Additional cn tags added by  addressed, now 17 references with my cumulative additions.  EdChem (talk) 04:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref Improve tag 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved.  —usernamekiran (talk) 09:48, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Peppercorn (legal) →  – To match other disambiguations for legal terminology. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 20 May 2022
Talk:Jaffna (City)

message: All unnecssary comments deleted.
Previous discussion deleted by 213.122.44.47, and a very irrelevant entry was inserted. Someone who has enough peviledges please rollback. 133.44.1.220 02:03, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have organized this article  in an order that makes sence (at least to me) RaveenS 13:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have organized the article again RaveenS 13:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

message: The statement added by someone that the Library was burnt down by The Army is completely false. I'm removing that statement.
However, according to the cited article, the Army helped rebuild it. So I'm adding that bit. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 20:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burnng of Library
Talk:Crestwood High School (New South Wales)

message: Attempted revival of the page by myself, June 2011. Feel free to make improvements as you please
Epatterson12 (talk) 04:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Josyf Slipyj

message: How is the 1949 in-pectore appointment arrived at?  Pope Pius XII held only 2 consistories (1946 and 1953) during his pontificate, and he stuck to the maximum of 70 cardinals (not exceeded until the pontificate of his immediate successor, Pope John XXIII).  There were rumors that Slipyj was 1 of the 3 in-pectore appointments of Pope John XXIII in 1960; those appointments were never published, so they expired when that pope died in 1963.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 16:25, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  When named ''in pectore''?
Talk:Serbian

message: So, just Orthodox Serbs can be considered “ethnic Serbs”? There’s a strange mix between ethnicity and religion here. So if a Serb converts from Orthodoxy or became atheist or agnostic he’s not a Serb anymore, even if his everyday life besides religion remains the same?--MaGioZal 08:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is it written just Orthodox Serbs can be considered “ethnic Serbs”? I don't understand your confusion. Please elaborate. --Biblbroks's talk 10:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is that I think it’s strange to relate ethnicity to religion in a so direct way. For example, if a Catholic Italian becames Protestant, he remains a Italian. That’s the point.--MaGioZal 10:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A Question

message: Serbs don't consider religion to be a choice. You are born into your religion, and you are tasked to carry on your traditions. The national and ethnic identity are considered intertwined with religion, if not the same. Serb may consider himself a Serb and an "agnostic", but if he voiced that in public he would be socially ostracized in different ways. 
Many "Serbs" were indoctrinated to be atheists during the communist rule, and they continue to be so, but true Serbs are considered those that follow Orthodox Christianity and live traditional Serbian lives. This is true for pretty much the entire society.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.134.157 (talk) 07:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The tribe of Serbs within the ancient Slavic people was so named before the concepts of christianity were ever brought to them. Therefore, unless they themselves desire otherwise and renounce it, and even then only by name, the ethnicity of a person doesn't and can't be changed. The fact you use the quotation marks when referring to the people who were indoctrinated tells more about you, but never the less - if it weren't for indoctrination, the religions would've died out and atheism would've thrived. Unfortunatelly, it is not so. --PrimEviL 05:21, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Answer
Talk:Josef Pieper

message: Did Pieper live thru his philosophical truth ? For he stated a vision of Christianity wherein to be a true
adherent, you had to imitate or rather,
ontologically, be another Christ. Presently, I am struggling with the
possibility of - is it not absurd for
Almighty God to set his children
on a life path that of needs results
in a tortuous and unjust death ?
Is that not a mockery of his creation ? PaperChaseVII (talk) 10:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life and death of a Christian 

message: From the article, it appears Pieper suddenly appeared after the war, but from [the German language version of the page ] you can see he published 7 books during the 1930s. A quick search showed some controversy (not surprising) about his relation to the Nazis: see http://cdn.theologicalstudies.net/66/66.3/66.3.6.pdf But his Leisure: the Basis of Culture refers to Ernst Niekisch and Ernst Jünger (Chapter 1) suggesting he might have been closer to the National Bolsheviks. Anything about this is probably controversial - someone with experience of handling this kind of topic might add a new section? It seems dishonest not to mention this period of his life at all Marinheiro (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pieper in the 1930s
Talk:Albert Barillé

message: Is the quote a poor translation? Or should the strange grammar remain? Rintrah 08:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm really unsure there. I'm trying to locate the original quote. If it turns out that this is Barille's own words, I will leave it. If it turns out that this is a poor translation of his words, I will clarify it. Trusilver 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

text: from here.--Pixel ;-) 15:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 
Talk:The Tenth Man (novel)

message: "The book was turned into a movie starring Anthony Hopkins as Chavel and Kristin Scott Thomas as Therese also a very young Stan lee." -- Removed the bolded portion as vandalism or incomprehensible. 1988 film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096243/ . 
Stan Lee (Stanley Martin Lieber)  born 1922, not listed in credits of film. -- 201.19.93.178 17:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stan Lee? 

message: Removed the text below on the grounds that, although factually correct, it applies to a shot lasting a few seconds in the TV version and has no significance for the moral or theological thread of the story:
:“Since the movie takes place in 1941-1945 (world war two in France) it is totally inaccurate to represent a Roman Catholic church altar, when toward the end of the movie a priest is summoned, as a protestant (Lutheran) table. In France or indeed anywhere else in the world until the 1960's after Vatican II "Luther's table" as it is often called was not seen in Catholic churches. Knowledgeable Catholics might ask why the movie producer/director would misrepresent the Traditional Catholic altar and worship in that particular scene.”
Clifford Mill (talk) 08:28, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on TV version