Talk:Cisco certifications

message: I have to question the entire direction of this page. If people are searching for definitions of the Cisco certifications available, this page serves as a confusing mess. How about a revamp of the page - how about some separate entries for each cert and then perhaps another page that defines the career certifications in an overview format. Lets have neutral language, state the facts. This is a dictionary not an advertisement. There used to be separate pages based on each certification, we need to go back to that. There can still be a page for defining Career Certifications but that would be a whole other page. 
The Master Merge was a bad idea, it is just way too much information. If you want a definition of CCNA, CCNP, or CCIE you have to wade through the entire page. Lets make a fundamental change here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomkhlong (talk • contribs) 08:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Direction of page

message: Why does the CCNA section specify training?  In the US, there are no prerequisites to sit for the exam.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.165.24.236 (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: CCNA 103.47.181.106 (talk) 13:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Training is not required to sit for CCNA

message: I created a new article about the entire Cisco Career Cert program and merged all the cisco certification program articles here.  —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-12 11:52Z
Why? This seems to have been a major mistake. Each Cert should have its own page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.88.96.130 (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: master merge

message: hi, while going through Cisco Career Certifications page, I felt that a link to an external reference CCNA Network Simulator would benefit visitors. Can some one experienced on this see if it qualifies for inclusion under "Tools For Study"? thanks. --Asoft 11:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this reference qualify? 

message: A link was removed with this edit summary: "The copyright notice on that page says we need written permission to distribute it" .  Linking to a page is not distributing it.  Uploading the page to Wikipedia would be distributing it.  It may be deep linking, which some people don't like, but it is legal and in either case doesn't fall under copyright law.  (I'm not arguing to keep any specific external link - there are probably other reasons for deleting them - just noting that there are no copyright issues with including external links.) —Quarl (talk) 2006-09-30 00:45Z
:I would argue that it is a grey area. The link is straight to a document without any prior information of where. This, in my eyes, could be seen as distribution. I would be happier for Wikipedia's sake that it weren't linked to directly.-Localzuk(talk) 10:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would argue that some of the info. under the CCNA header may be proprietary, such as the number of questions, the passing score, etc. and, as it is subject to change anyway, should be removed.  What do you think?  38.100.34.2 00:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the fact that it is highly likely to change without any real notice and it not having a reference to back it up I agree that it should be removed. However, if a reliable third party source could be found for it, I would be happy to let it stay as it is not material that is copyrightable (anyone can know how many questions are in a test...)-Localzuk(talk) 00:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright issues

message: There is a whole category of Cisco Certifications not mentioned in this article. You've talked about what Cisco refers to as their "General Certifications". More Certifications exists under the title "Specialist Certifications" (see http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/learning_career_certifications_and_learning_paths_home.html) Snickkers 08:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specialist Certifications 

message: References 4 & 5 appear to be pointing to the same place, I'm guessing its #5 thats wrong, but don't know where it should be pointing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.86.117.11 (talk) 10:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 4 & 5 wrong? 

message: The section headed Expert-level certifications: Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert include both of the following:
"As of April 2, 2007 there are 14,387 people with active CCIE certifications.[4]" AND
"As of April 2, 2007 there are 14,387 individuals who hold multiple CCIE certifications."
One or the other of these is inaccurate; not all 14,387 CCIEs have multiple certifications.
64.241.120.62 20:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  certified CCIE numbers 

message: I went through and changed the section title formatting to be a little more reader friendly.  Over the next few days I'll some language on retired certifications and take a stab at making the certification detail consistent and add some non-Cisco sources speaking to the career-value of a CCIE cert.  Is there anyone else actively working on this article? MkDoyle 21:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: add some non-Cisco sources speaking to the career-value of a CCIE cert be very careful with that. It would be very easy to head down the path of editorializing, and wikipedia is not a soapbox WP:NOT.--Crossmr 15:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken, thanks.  I added references to three sources and kept the commentary at a minimum to avoid POV.  The end result is (hopefully) that any reader will grasp that the CCIE has a general 'mystique' unshared by most IT certifications, and this is a significant portion of its 'note-worthiness'. MkDoyle 03:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited section formats 

message: people should know value of certification course as well as career opportunities  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahilrizvi (talk • contribs) 04:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We're an encyclopedia, not an employment guide. See WP:NOT.--Crossmr 13:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: value of course

message: hello.does anyone know how can i find out about cisco certifications offical test takers worldwide?(specially in middle east)
does iranian citizens are being prohibited from attending the exams?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyer1984 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  exams policies and regional test takers 

message: I think this page would be better served if it was list of Cisco Certified Professional credentials that went to pages of there own. The credentials are noteworthy in their own right.So the CCENT page would contain everything you wrote on CCENT and so on. 
This page is getting to long I think it is confusing to people. --Tobryant (talk) 17:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This needs to be discussed. And 'noteworthy' is not the question, it is 'notable'. See WP:NOTE. Doug Weller (talk) 18:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credentials 

message: Several companies these days are asking for certain certifications including CCNP/CCDP.  As defined it is a midcareer certification.  What are the likely steps for someone starting out...more of an entery career certification?
This article is writen as an advertisement, but the article in itself isn't as helpful as I had hoped for from wiki.
From Google, I looked up some of the different schools that offer different certifications.  The price range is a little confusing too.  One place was looking for over $1,000USD, while other places were asking around $300-$350USD.  Nobody seemed to be able to give a clear response though when asked why one school was charging more than 3x than the others.
Any ideas on what the average instruction time/test time should be along with cost per certification?--Cross78 (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cisco Certifications help 

message: I did a major rewrite, removing advertising and unnessesary information. I also hid the chart until it can be be reworked. Sephiroth storm (talk) 05:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Shameless.  And sorry for the pun.  In the article noise about its rating (that is probably ignored by those who need to read it the most, the text says this is C-class article.  I had no idea something this flagrant could be rated so high.
It is a "pretty" page.  Congrats to the beautician.  At the least it is deceptive.  Wikipedia should be getting a deal on security hardware.  For the benefit of the public who seeks to learn, and comes to Wikipedia, this needs to be fixed, pronto.  
Rather than justify my opinion, Wikipedia is obligated under its own rules, to justify the existing content.  I don't believe the justification exists but am happy to edit the article given this caveat.  But I also don't want to be banned.  Maybe a fan can find neutral sources.  A good place to look are websites run by competitive educators who teach non-branded concepts.  Another place to look are higher ed institutions that grant graduate degrees in Statistics (and are acredited).
Kernel.package (talk) 08:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For a vendor proprietary certification, you won't find a 'neutral' view.  This article outlines the Cisco career certifications.  From your own admission here, your opinion may be a bit biased.  The article is finely justified.  I'm not sure where your views are coming from. --Sartan (talk) 18:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see here. This article is appropriately assessed. If you can provide references to improve the article, feel free to do so. Sarcastic comments are unnecessary. Please remember that these products are aimed towards users of Cisco products, competitor reviews would likely be considered biased. And what does statistics have to do with certification? Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article lacks class altogether 

message: Should there be some mention that CISCO uses the employment of people holding specific certifications as part of the requirements for participating in their various channel partner programs? [| Premier], [| Silver], etc?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.230.60 (talk) 02:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I added information of Specialist certifications (and cleaned up a lot of old stuff). Feel free to add details, though I didn't think it particularly necessary since most people pursuing specialist certs are going to be doing so as their partner-status/aspiration dictate, and thus are already going to be familiar with the details (or at least know where to find them). I provided just enough information for someone who is looking for general Cisco cert info and may not be aware of the specialist certs. Also linked the Partner page as reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.169.134.103 (talk) 16:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Required to earn Premier, Silver, Gold, Platinum partner status. 

message: Some of the text of this article is poorly-written, and some of the better-written parts may have copyright issues.  I have removed one sentence that was copied from http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le0/le9/learning_certification_type_home.html and have posted this to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2011 June 8; if that part falls under the fair-use exception for brief excerpts, feel free to discuss either at WP:CP or here.  Thanks.
69.251.180.224 (talk) 04:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible copyright issues?

message: Editors regularly clean out undiscussed links from this article.  Please discuss here if you want a link not to be cleaned out regularly.  (You can help!)
— UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 03:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discuss links here 

message: US Dollars? Unavoidably Something Digital? Ultimately Supervisor Deliberated? Using Standard Definitions? Utterly Sick and Depraved? Unsuitable for Someone with Dementia?  Undocumented, Subjective and Disputed? Usually Sitting at a Desk? Ssscienccce (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Both the written and lab tests are USD" 

message: It could be my first real-deal wiki page if there was demand for it I have the sources and facts to back it up tell me what you think! 
have a good one fellow editors!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Untissuntiss13 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  would anyone be interested in a list of cisco products page?  

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message: I added the summary section of Cisco certifications; Please feel free to improve it as it was a missing part of this article for several years.  Goodtiming8871 (talk) 04:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
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message: In the recent Cisco certification update, Cisco combined all the CCNA exams under one unified exam - "CCNA 200-301". So, this page is serving outdated information which might be bad for the user as well as Wikipedia. Devinder Thakran (talk) 09:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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