Talk:Normanhurst Boys' High School

message: *Might be worthwhile discussing the school's Jenolan Caves excursion.... 49th consecutive year this year?
* What about mentioning Richard Pybus as a notable alumni? According to a 1999 article which appeared in the "Sydney Morning Herald" - "Players go back to fielding school, hoping to catch on" [12/11/1999]. It says "....Pakistan coach Richard Pybus - who was born in England, reared in Australia (he went to Normanhurst Boys' High in Sydney)..."
**Can you find out the details of the article? (title, reporter, date of publication etc... all the stuff you'd need to reference this). -- saberwyn 23:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If at some point Jenolan Caves gets added it has no longer been consecutive due to COVID in 2020 disrupting it and not sure it will resume due to the teacher who primarily organised it retiring 139.218.140.117 (talk) 10:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Yes, it's amazing it has been going on for so long. I guess I was on Camp #5 in 1962. Seem to remember we had a pretty good time. Rumiton 10:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jenolan Caves

message: What was it? I never heard of it, but several teachers pointed out that I spent much of my time asleep, so maybe I missed it. Rumiton 14:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The biannual "Jelly Shuffle"

message: It was previously suggested that some mention should be made with regard to an incident that happened on one of the jenolan excursions, regarding the death of an infant goat. While it was previously rejected on the grounds of bringing the school into disrupute, I have now reconsidered my view on the matter. Considering that Wikipedia is not supposed to be a school advertisement notice board as the page now currently resembles. 
Hence I now think some mention of the incident, a major news item of the time (covered by various media), should be made. Possibly under the new jenolan caves section? Thoughts? Opinions?
* I agree we should explore this. I was a student at the time of the incident, and it was a big news item of the time. Can anybody find archived articles 
* If you could find a reliable, independant source on the incident, whack it in, but DON'T put it in until its sourced. -- saberwyn 01:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was there. It happened in Broken Hill in 1996. That was the incident that got the cadet supervisor Mr Plant fired. 1.127.106.181 (talk) 05:48, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: The "goat" incident

message: If anyone is interested, I created a Userbox for past and present NBHS students:  Cdlw93 10:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NBHS student Userbox

message: I tried to put this URL in but failed. http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/Shinelab/shine/shine.html
There is no Wikilink. Any advice happily received. (Thanks for the Userbox. I grabbed it.) Rumiton 12:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed now I hope. (Had the / round the wrong way.) Rumiton 10:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Attempting to provide ref for Richard Shine

message: The founding principal was Tom Pearson. The school song ('Boldly let us raise the chorus ...') and school hymn ('Sons of Normanhurst uniting ...') were written by the school librarian, Ian Dicker. He was there during my years as a pupil, 1965-'70. I haven't added these as I don't know if the song and hymn have changed. I can furnish the lyrics, I think. They were frequently sung in my day. The school song referred to the Delphic origin of the school motto. Also on the matter of notable old boys, one from the 1960s became a famous heroin importer -- front-page news. The Wiki article makes it sound like the school has an unbroken tradition of sports-loving. This was far from the case in the 1960s. See http://wilsonsalmanac.blogspot.com/2003/05/normanhurst-boys-high-school-seniors.html for a historical photo.Alpheus (talk) 00:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ian Dicker, etc

message: Does anyone out there have acces to sources listing the HSC rankings, particulary for 2007 and 2009. Both are stated in the article, but there's been a bit of back-and-forth over whether Normanhurst came second in the region in those years, or third to Barker College. -- saberwyn 20:16, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  HSC Rankings 

message: I've removed the text from the Co-Curricular Activities section relating to Connect.
As with all public schools, Normanhurst BHS is a secular school. Connect is not directly affiliated with nor administered by the school. Therefore, it's not a Co-Curricular Activity of the school. Perhaps it would be best to put it in in some church article? I'm not sure, but it doesn't belong here. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 07:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Normanhurst Boys High School christian group is at Normanhurst Boys High School and does not belong at warawee bowls club, the kings school, parliamnet house or any other ludicrous place but Normanhurst Boys High School. The Normanhurst Boys High School Christian group belongs in the Normanhurst Boys High school page. It is listed as a co-curricular activity despite it not technically being one, simply besause tiny technicalities are ignored to make way for common sense. Its not officially run by the school but the school unofficially runs it. If its not let back on the Normanhurst Boys High School then so be it, but this is quite silly. Samonw27 (talk) 09:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a technicality that I would be willing to ignore. For a co-curricular activity to be associated with the school, the school has to be officially run by the school. Otherwise, what would be the problem with bands run by students separate to the school? They might use school facilities to practise, but does this qualify them to be included in the school's article? I don't think so. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 10:17, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

text: I have put ISCF as a new heading to get past technicalities of co curricular groups. Samonw27 (talk) 10:35, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

text: also according to the definition of co-curricular, there is a teacher employed by the school who runs the group, which compliments the school curriculum of religious education even in secular schools. but if a separate heading works better than alright.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samonw27 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connect 

message: The school's name appears on its website as Normanhurst Boys High School (sans apostrophe after "Boys"), but the article includes the apostrophe (Normanhurst Boys' High School).  Should the article be moved (renamed) to remove the apostrophe? – Archer1234 (talk) 14:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think so. It is not very grammatical, and I would prefer it if the school were to change their name to have an apostrophe in it, however the name of the school is the name of the school, especially if that is also how independent reliable sources refer to it. I can't think of any equivalent school names, but other institutions are treated in this manner, for example Brothers Union cricket team. MPS1992 (talk) 17:33, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting.  I hadn't thought about looking for other schools with similar names.  Turns out there are a fair number and the apostrophe is inconsistently used amongst them.  See Boys High School.  Some use an apostrophe and some do not.  The website of one of the schools is not consistent with its own name (at some places it uses an apostrophe and in other places it does not). – Archer1234 (talk) 19:00, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Webmasters are fickle creatures. MPS1992 (talk) 22:08, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  School name 

message: I was wondering whether the alumni list should be created on a separate Wikipedia page, which I am willing to write. There seems to be quite a lot of discussion regarding alumni so maybe it would be beneficial to move the topic to a separate page?Nibbashrek (talk) 10:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to wonder. See WP:FORK. This article (we do not have "pages") is nowhere near the size needed to warrant a content fork. John from Idegon (talk) 14:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

text: I don't think there's any harm in creating a separate article listing the alumni, away from the main school page. Since there is a bit of debate about the alumni, I think a separate article should be created, to focus on the school's content on this article.Nibbashrek (talk) 09:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This John from Idegon fellow is usually wrong about mostly everything, in my experience. But in this particular, he is right -- there is no need to spawn a separate article about alumni until this current article about the school grows too long. MPS1992 (talk) 21:51, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I genuinely cannot tell if that was a friendly roasting or a serious comment about John from Idegon. :D Nibbashrek (talk) 00:44, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: He and I are great friends. Or, we will be in about 50 years perhaps... MPS1992 (talk) 00:49, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate alumni page