Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film

message: There is currently a discussion at  in regards to listing it as a substonly template that may interest editors of this WikiProject. The discussion can be found here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:Rotten Tomatoes prose has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion about the function of {{tl|Rotten Tomatoes prose}} and similar Metacritic template 

message: :Template:Rotten Tomatoes prose has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Template:Rotten Tomatoes prose]] has an [[WP:RFC|RfC]] 

message: I would like to check with editors if MOS:FILMPLOT guidelines (e.g. ) apply to concert films. This is noting that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film states that  Thank you. starship.paint (RUN) 03:26, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the case of concert films, the synopsis is not really a plot summary and would be closer to a pre-release premise for a film. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What would "pre-release" have to do with it? Anyway, these don't usually have synopses (they're categorically a case of "a film's specific context may warrant otherwise"), but background information on the event and the A/V production, and a track list, and reviews/reaction/impact stuff. See, e.g., The Song Remains the Same (film). Most such articles don't seem to have a synopsis, though Stop Making Sense does. I'm not sure it's the best way to approach such a work, though maybe others disagree. Dunno if we could achieve enough consensus to have specific guideline wording about this genre.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  10:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "Pre-release" as in the short blurb we use before the film is released and a full plot summary is available. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:17, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I understoodd that part, I just don't see what this has to do with a concert film in particular versus some other sort of documentary work.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Kinda what I was thinking. The Song Remains the Same (film) is written how I would expect this to be handled, while Stop Making Sense seems to go too far.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:14, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking that a synopsis section would/should provide a brief overview of the concert being performed, the structure of the film, etc. I guess this wouldn't only apply to concert films, but all documentary films. Summer of Soul does this well; Michael Jackson's This Is It goes a bit too far. InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis for concert films 

message: See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#"Attributed to multiple references" and the three other linked discussions. InfiniteNexus (talk) 08:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical acclaim, again 

message: I started a discussion a month back at WikiProject Film about soundtracks and track listings. Here is what I led with but hoping we can get a consensus for clarification as it is leading to some edit warring.
For film pages, I think it is WP:COAT to create a soundtrack section on the actual film page that includes both information boxes and track listings (just a section of prose that provides an overview and anything of note). I see this similar to why we don't put track listings on musician pages. MOS:FILMMUSIC is a  little confusing for me as it says that track listings for prerecorded songs can be made but that film scores cannot. Yes, I understand the difference but still believe track listings and information boxes are COAT as they should be presented in a separate page if they are notable and do not contribute anything of benefit to the film page. I searched and found a few discussions about this but wondering if there is a discussion that found consensus for the "current" MOS or if anyone feels this should be re-visited. I found this discussion which is one of the most recent and seems to lean exactly where I am contending. CNMall41 (talk) 03:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an example. The track listing and information box do nothing to enhance the page. It also runs into another section which we wouldn't allow should it be an image that doesn't align with the context in which it is placed. And this one which bleeds into four sections. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack track lists in film articles