Talk:Grameen Bank

message: Please clarify whether peer pressure and joint liability is used to motivate people to pay up or not. In one section of the article it says these things are a part of Grameen Bank and in another portion it says that these things are not a park of Grameen Bank.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.224.191 (talk) 05:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Pressure Used or Not?

message: The first paragraph states "He was inspired during the terrible Bangladesh famine of 1974 to ..."
Who is this "He" being referred to? Is it Muhammad Yunus? If so, then it should be stated explicitly, as that name does not appear until the fourth paragraph. Omission of this piece of information causes confusion at the very start of the article.
TheParanoidOne 22:21, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article mentions that ... the word "Grameen" means "pertaining to villages" or "of the village/for the village"). The Bank's main activities involve the poor people from villages, that's probably why Yunus named it so. Thanks. --Ragib 13:07, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In what language? This is not mentioned in the article, so if you'd like to edit to insert it, it'd be a valuable contribution. Mamawrites 10:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I added it. The word "Grameen" comes from the Bengali language (also known as Bangla). --Ragib 14:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! I hope you don't mind, I moved it, because I don't think the information is important enough to go in the introductory section. (And I fixed the link to Bangla. It looks like this article is well positioned to be selected next in the improvement drive!Mamawrites 19:59, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Grameen means "rural" in Bengali, per http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2006/10/13/nobel_peace_winner_has_phd_from_vanderbilt  -Grammaticus Repairo 17:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Queries

message: I am a rather major fan of the concept - and the role that Grameen appears to have played in Bangladesh's development. Is it possible to start a section talking about the socio-cultural impact of Grameen? And also, it would be useful to have examples of how the system is or is not immune to abuse or even corruption (Bangladesh being apparently amongst the most corrupt countries!). How wonderful to see this well-written page.  freedomAnnawright 16:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. Wikipedia expects users to be bold and make changes, for the better. Thanks. --Ragib 17:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

text: It looks fine to me, are you sure you have a font that contains the necessary charset? You might want to try something like Code2000 if you're not sure (See Unicode typefaces) Nil Einne 09:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I think I read on an AP article today a quote from a bangladeshi economist who argues that the Grameen bank's interest rates are too high. Borisblue 06:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  criticism 

message: In order for this article to be awarded good article status several issues need to be addressed:
*Several sentences are marked with 'citation needed', in most cases the tag is justified. It must have these citations.
*The 16 principles should be described, currently there is only a link.
*The ownership-issue which was also addressed by several users on this talkpage needs to be researched and explained. Why is the majority of equity held by the banks debtors? Is there some requirement for them to buy stock in the grameen bank?
*Information that compares Grameen bank to other banks: how high is their interest rate, how long is the average credit period.
*Number of employees? 
If these changes are made, I believe it could be awarded GA status.--DorisHノート 23:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a comment of my own to make, why is the template asking for expert attention on this subject, is something missing? Homestarmy 04:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On second thought, the details that I asked for: legal structure and business-related details, are typical requirements for class-A-level, where an expert reviews the article. The article looks fine now, it is broad in its coverage and mentions all important aspects.
I moved the uncited statements to talk, they can be re-added later with a citation. The article is neutral and stable, it is well written and adequately structured. The images are fine and there are no licence problems. It's a good article.--DorisHノート 18:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Candidacy - comments

message: There is a good article in Today's Daily Prothom Alo, in the editorials/op-ed page. A Deputy Managing Director has explained the interest rate structure for Grameen Bank in detail. --Ragib 05:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid this is in Bengali language . Maybe you could summarize it and add it to the article with a citation?--DorisHノート 10:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interest rates 

message: Please note I have moved two seperate sections both about the Criticism section in the main article into one and answered both questions. --Logiboy123 (talk) 00:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far are Criticism sections go, this one is pretty tame. Almost all articles dealing with this level of business / programs require a criticism section. After reading the comments from three different experts I would say that their opinion based observations are interesting and valid. At the same time this section leaves the reader with the question "Is this program / business better for the community or not?" and provokes the reader to investigate further. That is a good thing. Feel free to rewrite the section for better flow, but I would be extremely reluctant to see the section disappear. How exactly does this section violate the NPOV requirement? --Logiboy123 (talk) 00:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes. All programs have their detractors and the comments are not ignorant of the program itself and highlight some possible flaws. No system is perfect and the flaws should be visible just as the benefits are. Many people will ask themselves how a business that does not charge interest can keep providing services. This is a valid point and a valid criticism of the program, whilst not demanding that everyone agree. Further the criticism portion of the article is in balance with the rest of the article and does not dominate.  --Logiboy123 (talk) 00:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: Caretaker Government of Bangladesh amended Grameen Bank ordinance to allow the bank to extend their activities all over the country. The government reduced it share from 25 to 15 percent. There would be two government nominated members in the board of directors of the bank instead of two and from now on board of directors would elect their chairman themselves. Reference. Please include this informantions in proper places. Regards--Tarif from Bangladesh 11:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Informantions

message: Copied from User talk:Blnguyen
Thanks for your interest in the article on Grameen Bank. But, you seem to have removed a number of primary source citations from the article. Those were from the list of the company's own subsidiaries, it's performance details made public, and its stated policy. If there is no blanket call against all primary sources, it is difficult see why all that should be removed. I also looked for the reason of the GA delisting of the article, but it seems that it was not reported/discussed anywhere. If you could lead me to any report/notice/discussion on the reason why, I may be able to improve upon the article. Aditya(talk • contribs) 10:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See my talk page. I was planning on adding third-party sources within the next few days. I have removed the references again, as it will make it easier for me to identify what I need to re-source. Nishkid64 (talk) 17:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Your plan of adding third-party sources is much appreciated, but removing references to identify what need to be resourced is an illogical reason to damage an article. There is something called the "Sandbox" for this type of work. Please use them if you want to play around with articles. Arman (Talk) 03:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that people were going to work on the article to fix the issues ASAP, I didn't think it would be a problem. Nishkid64 (talk) 23:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref removal 

message: The use of source 41 to substantiate "Similar to all microfinance institutes, the interest charged by Grameen Bank is higher compared to traditional banks as Grameen's interest (reducing balance basis) on its main credit product is about 20%." as a Criticism is not rhetorically sound. The article goes in detail to explain why the interest on micro-credit loans is necessarily higher (smaller loan amounts means more loan amounts, need more interest to subsidize transaction/personnel costs). Examining the intent of the author for source 41, I seriously doubt the cited statement was intended to be a criticism. 153.104.188.99 (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference for the fact that high interest is a criticism is Ref 40. Ref 41 quantifies the interest charged (i.e. 20%) and adds an qualification to this criticism with the words "Similar to all microfinance institutes" - which is consistent with the intent of the auther. Arman (Talk) 02:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: High Interest as Criticism

message: Does somebody know a dedicated Wiki for people involved in the GrameenBank activities?
Owners as lenders. Fridemar (talk) 00:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GrameenBankWiki 

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thread_title:  GA Review 

message: The interest rate is properly discussed with the references in the Criticism section. The info is not quite relevant to be put on the first sentence, let alone with a reference from a web based news portal. --Ragib (talk) 23:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interest rate 

message: Every article I've seen on microcredit says that it works by offering "small loans".  What qualifies as a "small loan"?  Is $500 USD a small loan?  Is $10 USD a small loan?  It's frustrating to read articles on microcredit and not be able to put microcredit in context with more traditional loans. TerraFrost (talk) 09:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  how small are the loans? 

message: "David Roodman[45] and Jonathan Morduch[46]  disagreed with a statistic once often cited by Yunus, that “5% of the Grameen borrowers get out of poverty every year.” Reanalyzing the underlying study, they obtained opposite results."
What does this mean? That 5% more of the borrowers are in poverty every year?! Some clarification would be appreciated. 94.193.35.68 (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: This article uses 3 numbers for the percent of female readers (at least, I haven't gone all the way down.) 96%, 97% and 98%. Every time they mention female lenders they use a different percentage! Which is it?! --99.254.236.52 (talk) 03:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Percent of Female Lenders 

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message: The Operational Statistics paragraph begins by saying that the equity ownership of the government is 6% and then restates equity ownership of government as 5% at the end of the section. Which one is it?
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thread_title:  Inaccuracy in Operational Statistics - Ownership