Talk:James George Frazer

message: This should probably be moved to "James George Frazer" to avoid possible ambiguities, and because that's how he's normally referred to. -- Pamplemousse 07:43, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: The social anthropology link on the James George Frazer page brings up Cultural Anthropology instead. How to change?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.250.237.247 (talk) 02:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: The introduction to this article says that Frazer's argument about religion has been shown to be invalid. This is a big claim and proper citation is critical. However, the citation link directs only to other wikipedia articles. It would be better to find the citations in those two articles (Human Development and Social Darwinism) and copy them into this article's bibliography.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.16.232 (talk) 20:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are some quotes. 
Ancient Mystery Cults. Walter Burkert. Harvard: 1987
“The Frazerian construct of a general ‘Oriental’ vegetation god who periodically dies and rises from the dead has been discredited by more recent scholarship. There is no evidence for a resurrection of Attis; even Osiris remains with the dead; and if Persephone returns to the world every year, a joyous event for gods and men, the initiates do not follow her. There is a dimension of death in all of the mystery initiations, but the concept of rebirth or resurrection of either gods or mystai is anything but explicit.”
Classical Mythology (6th ed), Mark Morford and Robert Lenardon. Longman: 1999.
"Despite its faults, Sir J. G. Frazer's The Golden Bough remains a pioneering monument in the field. It is full of comparative data on kingship and ritual, but its value is lessened by Frazer's ritualist interpretation of myth and by his eagerness to establish dubious analogies between myths of primitive tribes and classical myths."
Classical Myth (3rd ed). Barry Powell. PrenticeHall: 2001.
"Like writers on myth during the Enlightenment, Frazer ignored the possibility that change might not always bring improvement. Frazer himself did no field work. He integrated into his master scheme a vast body of data, often carelessly gathered, and manipulated it to fit his theory."
Funk & Wagnalls Standard Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology, and Legend , Maria Leach (ed.), HarperRow: 1972.
"The Golden Bough is an extensive study of ancient cults and folklore and comprises a vast amount of anthropological research. While remarkable as a collection of data, the work's conclusions are now often considered somewhat dubious."
Those are some harsh words. People still like to quote him though... all the time.69.254.76.77 (talk) 22:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Why not edit these quotes into the text of the article?--Wetman (talk) 01:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Citation 

message: Qualities of Frazer's writings widely acknowledged but not mentioned in the article are his exquisite use of irony and his eloquence. If I may be allowed to illustrate: "Yet it would be unfair to the generality of our kind to ascribe to their intellectual and moral weakness the gradual divergence of Buddhism and Christianity from their primitive patterns. For it should not be forgotten that by their glorification of poverty and celibacy both these religions struck straight at the root not merely of civil society but of human existence. The blow was parried by the wisdom or the folly of the vast majority of mankind, who refused to purchase a chance of saving their souls with the certainty of extinguishing the species." I will try and gather some citations, but this is not my field of study, so help would be appreciated. - Oniscoid 02:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eloquence 

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