Talk:Eva Kaili

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kaili 024.JPG

message: I see this as potential something that may become a large part of this article relating to her arrest. I’m opening this thread to discuss any up dates beyond the first 24hrs. For the time being I think we should maintain the facts as they are reported from the initial arrest until thing become clearer.  Jo Jc Jo (talk) 01:55, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Two days into the developing scandal, I think it has become significant enough to deserve at least a couple of sentences in the header, with due mention of course that it is an on-going development and that things might change. 90.112.72.149 (talk) 21:14, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrest and corruption 

message: The expression a video resurfaced implies that it was suppressed, or somehow inaccessible to the general public. Which is not true, it's a speech at the plenary of th European Parliament, and widely reported on Greek media right away. paa (talk) 07:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I’ve updated the language and hope there’s WP:CON. Please tag me if further discussed. I’d be interested to follow. Jo Jc Jo (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel wording 

message: The following is a context reference that may lead us to some interesting juxtapositions as the corruption story develops. I checked where Kaili stood on the key Greek issue of the last decade: https://www.evakaili.gr/en/varoufakis-departure-is-positive-for-talks/
Gives food for thought. Elmenhorster (talk) 09:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context (Varoufakis) 

message: Ive added Kaili’s CV to the references and updated the article accordingly:
I’ve removed Architect from her profession in the info box. According to her CV, Kaili studied a bachelors in civil engineering and architecture and no further studies in the field. She has no professional experience listed on her CV in any related field or discipline. 
I have added Newscaster to her profession in line with the article lede and her CV having worked for Mega Channel between 2004-2007 listed as “newscaster & journalist”. Jo Jc Jo (talk) 11:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profession 

message: Change to 
*"Arrest on charges of corruption".
*"Arrest on charges of ..."
*"Arrest" or "Arrest in 2022".
(While glancing thru the section, the current title seems like a "Crystal ball thingy", while the paragraphs on the other hand, are down to earth.) 46.15.84.92 (talk) 06:26, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: , thanks Ymblanter (talk) 09:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change section title (from "Corruption and arrest") 

message: There are English-language references stating this. I hope someone can look into this and add. Elmenhorster (talk) 11:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Father is/was a politician (let's add this to early life) 

message: Hello, 
First of all, I believe it is neccessary for the suspension date in the infobox to be kept, to inform the viewer and give them a better overview of what happened, and she was not suspended for one day but from December 9 until December 13. 
Kind regards, 
Vosle  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VosleCap (talk • contribs) 13:35, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I don't really feel strongly about it but it is clear from the text of the article about the suspension. It's just a question of what is in the infobox. I think if we consider WP:NOTNEWS then the test of time will put into perspective that she was suspended on Saturday and removed on Tuesday as an unimportant detail (unimportant in the context of what should be included in an infobox). Of course, it should remain in the body of the article. Jo Jc JoTalk💬Edits📝 13:49, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert of Eva Kaili suspension from infobox 

message: One of the odd omissions from Eva Kaili's biography is :Mantalena Kaili (Eva's sister).  See:
* 
-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:22, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mantalena Kaili 

message: Is opinion of lawyers so notable to be quoted in the lead? 
The page is intensively edited by unregistered users. Maybe protection is needed? Xx236 (talk) 08:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view. That means that this article must represent fairly and proportionately both side's published views on her arrest and the charges against her. Kaili's lawyers (Michalis Dimitrakopoulos and André Risopoulos) were making statements on her behalf.  Since we all agree that her arrest and the charges of corruption are sufficiently notable to go in the lead, we should also accept that what she wants us to believe regarding these events also needs mentioning in the lead.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:30, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "This user does not understand English (or understands it with considerable difficulty)." Who writes your texts? Xx236 (talk) 14:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

text: If Kaili makes a formal complaint about her treatment then it can go in introduction.Southdevonian (talk) 15:12, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lead 

message: I had spelled her sister's name Madalena as that was how it was spelled in the source, but happy to go with Mantalena if that is the more usual (and her own!) spelling. No need for two references to make one point, so have removed one that didn't add anything, moved the Knews ref to cover parents' names and adjusted wording of sentence about sister to reflect Politico source. Southdevonian (talk) 22:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of sister's name 

message: I agree that it is important not to rely exclusively on one source for controversial facts, but one source is sufficient when something is entirely accepted and uncontroversial. Kaili and Giorgi are partners and have a child born 2021. All the media agree. No-one has suggested otherwise. Certainly no need for two sources for one simple undisputed sentence and, where there is a choice, better to go with an English language accessible source for the English language Wikipedia (nothing wrong of course with foreign language sources when they introduce information not available in English language sources). There is a useful essay here Wikipedia:Citation_overkill Southdevonian (talk) 12:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for personal life