Talk:AFI (band)/Archive 1

message: STOP worrying about what little box everything fits in. Something I've always liked about AFI is that they AREN'T easy to classify down to one or even a few different genres. As their OFFICIAL myspace says, they're a rock band. "Rock" is a very vague term, but it's the only way to keep things simple for those who are anal retentive about music genres. They've touched on several things, but as a general overview it's impossible to narrow them down to a few genres. "Emo" is a retarded thing to label anything, and all of this other bullshit like "Normal rock" and "Emocore" are just about as stupid. "Rock", as vague as it is, is their genre on their official myspace and is the best way to keep things simple. Shut the fuck up, and again... STOP worrying about what little box everything fits in and just listen. -- Ryan Rowland
===Albums===
Someone is constantly writing emo,emocore,emo-punk and other emo things in the genre of their albums.I think these articles should too be locked.Also the genres wrote there are good for me and should not be changed.Xr 1 18:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Here's a thought

message: Someone is constantly writing emo,emocore,emo-punk and other emo things in the genre of their albums.I think these articles should too be locked.Also the genres wrote there are good for me and should not be changed.Xr 1 18:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Albums

message: What's the next single????  have they confirmed it yet?????Chriscool334 00:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Next Single

message: Seriously!  It's GONE!  What the hell?! - Enzo Dragon 01:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it back in.  It'd help if someone fixed the image (I don't know how!).  I'm going to work on finding citations (the information can be found on their site, if anyone wants to do this for me).  - Enzo Dragon 01:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know who's taking things out of the article, but the trivia section is gone too! What the hell? I'm putting it back. --Lizzysama 01:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: So I kinda' got around to it.  I'll be adding more citations in later, just to over-kill it and make sure it never gets removed again.  All of the citations present should cover the information, though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enzo Dragon (talk • contribs) 04:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What happened to 'early years'?!

message: I snipped this: "It is also said Mark went back to college after his departure from AFI." Said? Did he or didn't he? Needs substantiation. Saint Mahone 22:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Biography

message: I'm not convinced this section is correct. It states the release was '95, then re-released 96 on Nitro. However, the article doesn't mention the first album re-release on nitro (96). I think this might be a mix-up. As far as I can tell, VPOY was released for the first time on nitro in '96.
: You have VPOY confused with ATASF. Afee 22:01, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very Proud of Ya release date / label 

message: I really do not think the articles for the following are needed:
*Girl's Not Grey UK 7"
*Girl's Not Grey Germany
*Girl's Not Grey Europe (says its an album, but only has 4 tracks)
*The Leaving Song Pt.II UK 7"
*The Leaving Song Pt.II Australian Tour Edition
*The Leaving Song Pt.II Germany
*The Leaving Song Pt. II EU Cassette
*The Leaving Song Pt.II UK CD1
*The Leaving Song Pt.II UK CD2
They are devoid of much information and are quite pointless, they haven't even been linked to. There should only be one Girl's Not Grey and The Leavig Song article (at MOST) each, every format should not get its own article. I think they should be labelled for deletion. Plus, articles should start with the article name and articles such as these should include the band's name in the first few lines, not only as a category. Tartan 22:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I've merged them all into one article for each. Dwnsjane2 03:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't notice this till now, but thanks for that. Tartan 16:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I just removed this line-"A new single, "The Missing Frame", is scheduled for a Janaury release.". This is like the 3rd time I've seen that in the article with no confirmation. Lizzysama 22:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Singles

message: Shouldn't the dates be wikified? raylu 17:35, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
: The first occurence of each, sure. -- Jon Dowland 23:49, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates

message: Down in the compilations section... Myspace Records doesn't need the "Rabbits are Roadkill" song name listed by it. None of the other compilations have the song names listed. No reason to start doing it now, unless you mean to go back and add the song names to the other compiliations too. --Hotdoglives 12:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Compilations

message: It appears someone didn't like AFI too much and vandalize the Bio section to say "AFI Sucks!" in large, bold letter before the article started. As far as I can tell, it's the only change he made. I edited it back. If you check the history, the change is the one right before mine- I'm not sure if this guy has vandalized more articles, that might be something to look into. Mouseclicker 05:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can find out the edits of any user by going to the "my contributions" link that is at the top of the page when you are logged in (right next to the links to watchlist and logout). Click on it and it will show all your edits. Look at the URL and just change the username to the username you want to see and viola! If there are spaces in the username, use_underscores_like_this. There is probably an easier way, but that's how I do it. The Ungovernable Force 07:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalizing 

message: The compilations section is huge. I've moved the "real" compilations into it (the eponymous release on Nitro and the vinyl boxed-set), but the others are mostly multi-artist punk comps. It would make more sense to list the actual song(s) that AFI ahve on those comps where possible, but also that should go in it's own article as it really crowds out the rest of the info on this one. Assuming there are no objections I'll do that in the near future. -- Jon Dowland 20:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compilations 

message: I was just wondering why there is no reference to AFI's previous members. And this article also says right at the top that AFI was formed by not only Davey and Adam, but also Hunter and Jade. That isn't true. This should be fixed by somebody.Conner f 01:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  previous members 

message: Since now we are listing the covers, we need to make an organized list of them, to replace the messy paragraph we have now. Hotdoglives 07:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Covers

message: Didn't the band become inactive both between 1993 and 1995 (when members attended college) and in 1998 (when Mark left)? --Kahlfin 18:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Years Active

message: In the biography, I found the following sentence: "The song 'Lower It' is rumored to be about straight edge kids who do not stay straight edge."  I searched and could not find a source for it.  I myself have heard rumors both that the song is about Mark and that the song is political.  Unless someone can find a source, I'm going to remove it. --Kahlfin 19:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lower It

message: Do we really need so many links at the bottom of the page? I think the offical AFI Site, The DF, The Myspace and maybe AFISeries should suffice. This isn't a bulletin board for every fansite out there. Krys Nyteshade 19:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I think some people have been adding their own fansites just to get publicity. Let's take some of those down. Hotdoglives 10:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: AFI Series deserves to be linked down at the bottom.  It's probably the only AFI fansite that gets exclusive material and permissions from the band. - Enzo Dragon 10:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too Many Links

message: I am a writer, trying to get an interview with AFI, but have not been able to contact them. Do you know how to contact their agent, or the direct members?
yeah check out Fuse "Making of Miss Murder" and they show there tour manager. jaykob
I'm not sure. Althouh looking on their website might help. Dwnsjane2 06:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bands Agent 

message: The Offspring covered AFI's Totalimmortal (All Hallows EP) for the soundtrack of Me Myself & Irene (2000).  It got a fair amount of radio play, and helped in exposing AFI to larger audiences.  The lead singer of The Offspring, Dexter Holland, at the time owned the label AFI was signed to (Nitro Records), and is featured as a backing vocalist on a number of Black Sails songs.  Important enough? GoodCyning 16:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would think so.  Where would it go in the article? --Kahlfin 21:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Offspring Cover 

message: I think that the "other notes" really breaks up the flow of the article.  When I read it, it sounds very "by-the-way".  Perhaps I'm just crazy.  Still - is there any way we can get all of those facts in without it reading like a bunch of forks in a newspaper? - Enzo Dragon 10:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to incoperate as much of those into the article as possible. Because some of them occur to me as more part of the history of the band as opposed to trivia. Dwnsjane2 18:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Notes section 

message: Is there a reason why the inof on them keeps on getting deleted every time i put it up? (Zeropunk16 08:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD and decemberunderground Special Edition 

message: iTunes spell the band A.F.I. What is the correct spelling? DJJJ 15:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is spelled on the albums without the periods. I'm pretty sure it's AFI. 69.248.110.202 01:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of AFI

message: "The band is also planning on recording a new E.P that should be out by late spring."
Where was this found out at? Zeropunk16 22:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New EP? 

message: Where did the band picture go? It was there the last time I checked and now it's gone. Lizzysama 22:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just replaced it. It was removed by an anonymous editor with no explaination. Ollie 22:45, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks. Lizzysama 22:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture? 

message: Why does the trivia section keep being removed? Is trivia no longer allowed on wikipedia articles or something like that or is it because it's "unremarkable" and very small? I'm seriously confused, because tons of other articles have this section. --Lizzysama 02:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming that the reverter, "Can't sleep, clowns will ear me," is going off of the basis that the information provided in the late trivia section was not of an encyclopedic nature, or "unremarkable" (that is, not really all that important that an encyclopedia needs to have the info on hand).  If you question his reasoning, I would suggest that you message him about it! - Enzo Dragon 05:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia 

message: the album has not yet been cirtified platnum, but only gold.Jimmypop1994 20:14, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decemberunderground 

message: I think it should be noted according to thesmokinggun.com Davey asks for a very large mirror on every AFI tour.
No, it shouldn't. Diabolical 01:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rider

message: should punk fiction be added in here? or would the album cover upset too many??
LollyLo 09:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk Fiction? 

message: I'm not a member of wikipedia but i'm sure this is important. I noticed when i clicked on the page around about the top in bold letters there is a sentence that says 'IT'S THE GREATEST BAND EVER" or something like that...sorry i just thought i should tell you so it can be removed because isn't that like a POV or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.152.31.227 (talk) 01:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Vandalism 

message: I was just looking at the Tiger Army page at their 'Members' section. I thought that was something that would benefit this page. I figured it was somethng that should be after "History" and before "Discography". I mean, it could be useful to have a section with "Current Members" featuring Davey, Adam, Hunter and Jade and then "Former Members" with Geoff, Victor and Mark. Mnesimache 22:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members. 

message: They suck now because theres always pushing to get ot the front, and its always starts by little girls, iv been seeing it latley at afi concerts, have you guys? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahmed203 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked out the HIM page and it seems like a good idea. However, remember the 'no original research' stipulation - if we could perhaps find a source talking about the difficulty in classifying their genre? Or a number of sources that list their genre differently? Mnesimache 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afi concerts?