Talk:Republics of Russia

message: In the lead, we have RS's that Russia has 21 internationally recognized republics, plus occupied Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk, which are claimed by Russia (e.g. named in the amended Russian constitution), but which are not recognized as Russian by anyone else. (In addition, Russia does not occupy all the territory it claims for Luhansk and Donetsk.) The question then is how many Russian-claimed republics that makes: 22 or 24. One source said, in a prior edition before Russia claimed Luhansk and Donetsk, that there were 21 plus Crimea, for a total of 22. That source has recently been updated to add Donetsk and Luhansk (supported also by a second source in the lead), but the total given still reads 22. The question then is whether we have to say there are 22 Russian-claimed republics, or if we should say there are 24 because 21 + 1 (Crimea) + 2 (Luhanks and Donetsk) = 24. 
— kwami (talk) 08:03, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So much for a neutrally worded question. Can you remove the complete misrepresentation of facts about a source from this statement (not question). Need to observe WP:RFCNEUTRAL rather than advocating (and claiming a source says the opposite of what it does) before getting to the question. A simple “how many republics should we state…” is an appropriate type of question. Cambial — foliar❧ 09:52, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ... and this is why discussion with you is pointless, and I RfC'd. — kwami (talk) 10:03, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you going to implement a neutral, brief RfC question? Cambial — foliar❧ 10:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Russian-claimed republics 

message: It's better if you add the republic's flags next to their location. The same thing has been done with other articles of administrative regions, like PakistanAdministrative units of Pakistan and Japan Prefectures of Japan Swaggio123 (talk) 15:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: 🤦‍♂️ why is there no "edit discussion" button?!  Swaggio123 (talk) 15:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Flags next to location  

message: (in the lead)
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Since the termination of the final bilateral treaty in 2017, some commentators consider Russia to no longer be a federation.
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Since the termination of the final bilateral treaty in 2017, some commentators consider Russia to no longer be a federation.
due to reason: this sentence is based on a similar sentence in the "History" section, so the same citations can be used here. Accordingly, since the citations are moved to the lead, the places they were previously introduced can be changed this way (using "ref name= "(name)"/ format):
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The Republic of Tatarstan demanded its own agreement to preserve its autonomy within the Russian Federation and on 15 February 1994, Moscow and Kazan signed a power-sharing deal, in which the latter was granted a high degree of autonomy.
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The Republic of Tatarstan demanded its own agreement to preserve its autonomy within the Russian Federation and on 15 February 1994, Moscow and Kazan signed a power-sharing deal, in which the latter was granted a high degree of autonomy.
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After the agreement's termination, some commentators expressed the view that Russia ceased to be a federation.
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After the agreement's termination, some commentators expressed the view that Russia ceased to be a federation. 104.175.78.152 (talk) 03:43, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 08:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 December 2023 

message: Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia are republics under the Russian constitution. Recognition is irrelevant. Israel has Golan regardless of international recognition. Golan is counted as part of Israel regardless of international recognition. So by the same token Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia should be counted as part of Russia regardless of international recognition. So the number of republics should be 26, not 21.
69.166.123.76 (talk) 23:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Secondary sources, preferably scholarship, are needed, as the current available scholarship indicates that the number is 21. In addition, there is a well-established consensus that the article should indicate 21, so you will need to establish a consensus for your proposal by convincing other editors. Cambial — foliar❧ 23:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The number of republics should be 26, not 21