Talk:Paralympic Games

message: I was led here after seeing an unusual picture on the 1968 Summer Paralympics medal table, and I realised a piece of the puzzle was missing. I think this article has an inadequate treatment of the Paralympics' relationship with the both the Stoke Mandeville Games (ISMWSF) and the International Sports Organisation for the Disabled (ISOD). It describes these as precursors to the Paralympics, but they were more than that – from 1960 to 1972 the Stoke Mandeville Games were the "Paralympics" on a quadrennial basis. Collaborations between the ISMWSF and ISOD were the essence of both the Summer and Winter Paralympics from 1976 to 1984. The Paralympic Games only took on its current form as late as 1988.
The events from 1960 to 1988 were retrospectively recognised as Paralympic events. The article also states that the ISOD was "the first organization dedicated to advancement of athletic opportunities for people with a disability". This source seems to dismiss that idea. SFB 10:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stoke Mandeville Games 

message: I have tagged "The Paralympic Games is the world's second-largest major international multi-sport event" with a citation needed, but am sorely tempted to take it out on the spot, considering that the same unsubstantiated claim was challenged and removed by me in 2010 as well, see Talk:Paralympic Games/Archive 1#Second-largest sporting event?. 
Such a claim needs A. a few good sources, and B. a clear metric: is it the second-largest in number of competitors? Countries? Audience (live or TV)? Money? Any or all of these may be true (although at least for the previous games, they weren't), but as it stands, it is a totally empty claim polluting the very first line of a high profile "good article". Fram (talk) 08:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Addendum: the link to "multi-sport event" doesn't really add more information, but even when you consider this as excluding e.g. the World Athletics, how do the Paralympics compare to e.g. the 2011 Summer Universiade? The Paralympics have slightly more participating countries, but at first sight somewhat less participating athletes. The 2010 Commonwealth Games and the 2010 Asian Games have only half as much countries, but more athletes. The 2011 World Aquatics Championships had less athletes and sports, but more participating countries. The 2010 Gay Games had less countries participating, but a lot more athletes. The 2009 World Masters Games claims to be the worls largest multi-sport event qua participation. Then there are the 2011 Military World Games, the World Games 2009 and the 2011 Special Olympics World Summer Games. Oh, and the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics. So even only looking at "multi-sports events", the claim clearly needs clarification and sourcing, or outright removal, since at least wrt number of countries and wrt number of participants, it clearly isn't the second-largest one. Fram (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Another editor removed the "citation needed", because the lead doesn't need referencing as long as it is discussed in the body. Since this claim isn't discussed in the body at all (as far as I could see), I have removed it now instead of just tagging it. Please indicate where in the article this claim is discussed and sourced before readding the claim again. Fram (talk) 08:31, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Looking back in the history, this claim was only readded last week, without any changes to the body of the article to support it, so reversion to the status quo seems the best solution here. Fram (talk) 08:39, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: The image of the paralympic flag in the article does not show its design clearly. Could it be replaced by a better one? Peter Ells (talk) 07:46, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
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message: The first paragraph of the section 'Relationship with the Olympics' has so many strange mistakes that I cannot fix it myself at the moment, because in several instances I am not immediately certain what the intended meaning is. I hope someone else can take some time to look at this and rewrite it. 607 (talk) 17:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted it to an earlier version. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of order paragraph