Talk:Andrew Lloyd Webber

message: Regarding reversion by Johnuniq of my edit on 25 September 2011 due to lack of reliable sources: If you go to YouTube and listen to "Love Never Dies" and the beginning of "Free Willy: Main Theme", the relationship is obvious. Additionally, you can listen to "Theme from The Apartment (1960)" for a possible common source. I have neither the time nor the inclination for an edit war and there is no need to respond to me directly. Still, I think all editors could benefit if an "expert" could explain how to cite public-domain musical snippets, in the absence of some comprehensive publication from a musicologist on the matter. 
I agree with Johnuniq that "Accusations of Plagiarism" may not be the best heading for some of thes similarities and would further suggest "Musical Influences" as an alternative with the Plagarism portion regarding the Puccini suit as a subheading. Thank you. 65.27.249.141 (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There have been many occasions when similarities between the works of different composers have been noted, including a sensational BBC radio program regarding classical music (sorry, can't provide any links). Perhaps it's plagiarism, and perhaps it isn't (see convergent evolution for one field in which it is entirely possible to have thing A look like or behave like thing B, without either being a copy of the other). The only thing that is certain about the situation is that an article cannot assert "the works of A and B are sufficiently similar to suggest plagiarism"—what would be required is an attributed statement by a relevant scholarly authority. See WP:SYNTH and WP:REDFLAG. Johnuniq (talk) 01:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that would be necessary, or a RS'd admission from ALW, for a bare heading of  "Plagiarism"; but a RS of, for instance, Roger Waters's accusation is sufficient for the heading "Accusations of plagiarism". Straw Cat (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

text: The contentious material not relating to accused plagiarism and unsourced content has now been removed, thanks to . Good job! What remains is correct to the section. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 00:30, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I noticed you removed the entire line regarding the Puccini Estate suit. It is perhaps the most recognized and acknowledged plagiarism suit next to Jerry Herman and "Hello Dolly" for a Broadway composer. It might be best to keep it within the section with a "citation needed" tag next to it for other editors to find more reliable sources. It is far from being a rumor. Thoughts? Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 21:35, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

text: This is from the WP article: . Maineartists (talk) 21:36, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism discussion continued

message: Curious about this -- I believe Webber has only won three Tonys (not seven, as it says in the article), since he did not individually produce the musicals which won Best Musical. Is there a way to verify this? NathanielTheBold (talk) 23:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I advise asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre. -- Softlavender (talk) 06:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony 

message: See this thread for the whys and wherefores; the anchor point is mid-thread where the details are, but the whole "Allegedly controversial composers" sub-section leads up to it.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox overhauled 

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