Talk:Watchman Nee

message: Rather than deleting valuable external links, I have revised the links for a NPOV. Please do the same in the future. Cokoli 22:47, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: If this is a serious study we need to debate the issue fully here first. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page) 14:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Simply showing that there are differences between translations proves nothing other than the fact that there are differences between the translations.  Without examining the source material it's impossible to determine which translation is more accurate.  Astarf 14:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate of the recent edit inclusions, accusations of impropriety

message: Added to these categories--Kathanar 21:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Added Asian Christians and Chinese Christians

message: The current senior members of the Shanghai Local Church, who are still alive and living in Shanghai, would disagree with laudatory elements of the wiki article. They were there at the trial in 1956. They were there when the Shanghai Church investigated allegations of Nee's immorality. Many were angry at Nee. Peace Wang gave up her faith because of Nee's behavior. In 2006, I went to Shanghai to confirm the information given to me by Dr. Lily Hsu. Dr. Hsu was there at the trial. On behalf of the Shanghai Local Church she interviewed one of the women Nee had an affair with. She confessed to church leaders. Nee was then removed from the church rolls. Thereupon the church left Three-Self even though Nee had encouraged them to join and follow "The People's Viewpoint." Nee's final public sermon defending the Three Self was recently published in Chinese and translated into English Dr. Lily Hsu's new book, My Unforgettable Memories: Watchman Nee and Shanghai Local Church. The book is a wakeup call for people to recognize the difference between a spiritual 'dramatus personae' and the real thing. Like all of us Nee had to deal with weaknesses and temptations every day. Instead of turning for help and strenghth he preferred to perform a very public 'spiritual' life while living a different, private life.
--Dana Roberts, M.A., M.T.S.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.77.34.222 (talk) 16:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello dr. Roberts. It has been a while since I visited the English Watchman Nee wiki, and I saw your message just now. Perhaps you remember me from my review of your book on Amazon about Watchman Nee (comment). Since to my mind, I have already rebutted some of the conclusions you came to in your book about Watchman Nee on Amazon, I hope you don't mind if I take your conclusions in this current matter with a grain of salt. I'll contact a few people who most assuredly are 'in the know' about this and get back to you. That being said, if you want to base the validity of a person's teachings on his life, you might as well throw your Bible out of the window and reject the christian faith as a whole, for what christian in history has never sinned? Paul called Peter a hypocrite at one time. Does that mean we have to doubt what Peter wrote? God Himself made sure his letters landed in the Bible! Why don't you try preventing people from becoming Lutheran, based on the gross antisemetic teachings of the great Reformer Martin Luther? I guess I am simply wondering why you are bringing this up in the first place. By the way, saying 'Peace Wang gave up her faith because of Nee's behavior' (of which I have no proof), doesn't mean a thing. If this is true, which I doubt, it only means her faith was not based on the Bible but on a man's behaviour. Such a faith is not faith at all. Now I'd like to add that we all know how the Communist Party in those days fabricated a lot of 'evidence' against strong christian leaders, and I therefore am inclined to side with the reviews of the above mentioned book you seem to recommend: My Unforgettable Memories: Watchman Nee and Shanghai Local Church posted here and here. If you have ever read Christianity in Communist China by journalist George Patterson, you know how the Communist Party tried to destroy the testimony of christian leaders, and it seems they did a very good job with the author of the book you endorse. Watch-Wiki  Talk 21:04, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, I just wrote a review on Dengshong John Wu's latest book Understanding Watchman Nee, and I'm afraid I have some issues with that book as well: review. - Watch-Wiki  Talk 08:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current controversies 

message: When I read here that Watchman Nee believed that 'the Father became the Son', it becomes clear to me that this article is being hijacked by Leeists. Nee never taught such a thing, but Lee, who drifted away from Nee's biblical teaching, has caused quite a stir with his cultic teachings. I suggest that Wikipedia moderators take a good look at this article and prevent the followers of Witness Lee to modify this article in order to make it compatible with Lee's teachings. 
Actually, this whole article looks more like a rehash of the Living Stream Ministries biography of Watchman Nee. I recognize many catchphrases from that biography. I find it very strange that not ONCE in this article Christian Fellowship Publisers is mentioned, which published more than 50 titles of Nee, translated by Stephen Kaung. That really is a red flag to me.Watch-Wiki  Talk   — Preceding undated comment added 22:15, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Trinity

message: Substituted at 10:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment