Talk:T. S. Eliot

message: I reverted this edit which had the edit summary "Although he was born American, he was not American as he renounced his citizenship". My edit summary was "he was American until 1927 and certainly well-known as a poet by then". Why is this considered problematic? Happy to see a more neutral short description if one can be agreed. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: - see earlier discussions on this Talk page Nationality in the lead and Opening Paragraph (and there are probably more archived) - the short description is problematic because there are those who insist Eliot was an American poet and those who insist he was a British poet - there have been numerous edits and reverts to the lead describing him as an "American-born British poet" and many other variations, none of which have achieved consensus - for a short description it would be best to leave the nationality out altogether - perhaps say he was a Modernist poet or a significant 20th century poet or something like that - I can't tell you what to do, but putting the nationality in the short description will not be constructive - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 22:23, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections to "Modernist poet or a significant 20th century poet or something like that". I still think the original removal was not justified by that rationale. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Short description|Short description]] 

message: The 1,100+ letters that Eliot wrote to his confidante Emily Hale, which were sealed for 50 years, have now been opened and are currently being scanned for publication. So you’re probably going to want to make some substantial changes to this article in the near future! - Hux (talk) 18:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: And you're probably going to want to help! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, the letters are not going to published in the near future. According to Princeton University Library "The Eliot letters are under copyright until 2035 and will not be available for access online. Researchers can access the collection on a first-come, first-served basis in Firestone Library’s Special Collections, located on C floor." BabelStone (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But secondary sources will cover the letters, and that's what's important in any case. So it won't be immediately or in 2035; it's just a matter of waiting. Ralbegen (talk) 23:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

text:  John Haffenden, who has been editing the letters of TSE, wrote on Twitter "Point of information: T. S. Eliot's letters to Emily Hale are to be published by Faber & Faber on behalf of the Estate of T. S. Eliot, almost certainly in 2021 -- so no one will need to wait until Princeton Univ publishes them online in 2035." https://twitter.com/johnhaffenden/status/1213851304918953986 WikiParker (talk) 14:46, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

text: p.s. edit to add: I see now the page is semi-protected - & fwiw I think that's a good thing gobears87 (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attention T.S. Eliot wiki editors 

message: From Vivienne’s Wiki page: Carole Seymour-Jones writes that [Tom & Vivienne] first met in London in March 1914 at a party in a hotel. Seymour-Jones writes that he was first introduced to her at a lunch party in Magdalen College in or around March 1914.
From Vivienne’s Talk Page: According to most sources, it was March 1915, and they married three months later. (This was my own contribution).
From Eliot’s Wiki page: Eliot was awarded a scholarship to Merton College, Oxford, in 1914. He first visited Marburg, Germany, where he planned to take a summer programme, but when the First World War broke out he went to Oxford instead.
And…
Eliot wrote to Conrad Aiken on New Year's Eve 1914: "Oxford is very pretty, but I don't like to be dead.” Does this relate to 31/12/13 or 31/12/14?
Some consensus required, I think. Valetude (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eliot’s movements 1914-15