Talk:Cynthia Rylant

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thread_title:  Inline citations 

message: This is a WP:STUB: two sentences plus identification of "a number of awards and honors" plus list of a zillion works. The numerous sources listed under References are essentially Further reading and External links because they have not been used.  The first page of Revision history (50 from September 2010) does not show massive deletion of content.  --P64 (talk) 01:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a nasty vandalism in 2008 that I have just reversed.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Downgrade to stub

message: P.S. If she did write books in English and Spanish-languages then some of the latter should be identified in the list. --P64 (talk) 01:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed this assertion.  It does not seem to be correct, although some of her books have been translated into Spanish and published in Braille.  See this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish-language

message: The Caldecott Medal is awarded "for the most distinguished picture book for children" to the illustrator. Since 1971 the runner-up works are called Caldecott Honor Books. Official C.M. and C.H. "Seals" are available for display on the front covers of the books. "The Randolph Caldecott Medal" --see top and bottom images 
Rylant is the writer of Caldecott runners-up with other illustrators. (Our table says 1983 Diane Goode, 1986 Stephen Gammell.) 
: P.S. I support identifying the writers in our tables of illustration-award winners. See Talk:Caldecott Medal#New column for authors. -P64
This article should be clear about the Caldecott and identify the illustrators under Honors; some other points will then be more suitable for the lead. 
: P.S. In our words, Rylant says it "took her but an hour to complete" the 1983 runner-up When I Was Young in the Mountains (which our poor stub labels a novel). Did she so much as sketch the illustrations, or describe them? -P64
'Illu' appears in this article only once: "her partner since 1989, Dav Pilkey, an author/illustrator." If she has illustrated any published books herself, or produced any books jointly with Pilkey, or worked together frequently with any other illustrator, that should be covered under Life and career. 
If any of the book series has been developed jointly by Rylant and an illustrator --such as the Dr. Xargle picture books or The Edge Chronicles novels-- then we should mention that in the list of Works under the heading for the series.
Picture books. Independent of identifying illustrators, the list of Works is so long that I think it must benefit from division into sections for children's picture books and other children's books, presumably with stand-alone and series in both sections. Of course that needs on a source that identifies all of the children's picture books.
--P64 (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: P64, please go ahead and improve this article.  I have no special interest in Rylant or children's books; I simply noticed that the article had been massively vandalized and rescued it.  You can find out more about Rylant's illustrators from the sources and external links already mentioned near the bottom of the article, and I am sure there is much more information about Rylant readily available on google.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustrators 

message: I have removed the information pursuant to WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPGOSSIP. While this information has been published in a book, it is disputed by the subject and has not been independently covered in other reliable sources. 24.209.32.171 (talk) 02:16, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it has not been disputed by the subject, and there are multiple reliable sources backing up the information.  Rylant's biography makes it clear that Pilkey was an important part of her life.  The sources confirm that they dated for more than a decade and moved to Eugene Oregon together, where they lived in houses near each other and shared pets.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:42, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

text: This discussion is different from the one at Pilkey.  Rylant has not disputed this information, and, frankly, Pilkey's SPS is disingenuous, as his talk page shows, where he admits moving to Eugene and living near Rylant, which is what the removed material here says.  In this article, which is a much better article than Pilkey's we discuss Rylant's personal life, which she has written about in detail.  We also cite three reliable sources for the deleted information. I would like to reinsert the deleted material.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

text: The argument is in regards to what is considered a "reliable source". Those sources are not reliable as found by an editor on the Pilkey page. The definition of "dating" can also be argued either way. 220.105.1.72 (talk) 08:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

text: I am content with the "dating" statement too, that Mr. Pilkey agrees with above, and have added it back. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:12, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The point about Mrs Clinton shows the importance of sticking to WP:RS. The references here seem to me to satisfy those criteria, and should remain in place, but it might be as well to show them in numerical order rather than [4][3][5]. Tim riley (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

text: You are placing unnecessary importance on "dating" and placing weight on the "reliable sources" which I have stated many times, are NOT RELIABLE. Why don't you name the college professor she MARRIED? It is very inconsistent. 220.105.1.72 (talk) 00:25, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

text: My other point is that by stating my name in the same sentence as her son, it places undue importance on the dating part of her life. It can seem like we collaborated on our work (as people seem to misinterpret statements quite frequently). We saw each other perhaps once a week. Maybe not even that often. We don't want to give the impression that we COLLABORATED on our work because we are both children's book authors. By not stating the college professor she married after Dolin, it makes that part of her life less important. Does this make sense? 220.105.1.72 (talk) 00:39, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

text: I don't really mind that you state - somewhere else but not next to her son's name - that gives it much less importance - that we dated. That is fine. I don't want to give credit to the sources you are citing, however.  This is my biggest problem. By citing the UNRELIABLE SOURCES, it allows those people to continue to report information irresponsibly and out of context. This is the main reason to leave my name out of her biography. I believe we are allowing the sources to continue to print unauthorized biographies. I honestly feel those particular reference sources need to be deleted. I also know that Cynthia Rylant would not mind if you just stated she moved with her son without naming the source. She has stated in personal interviews this fact but not in the ones you are citing. The other fact is that I was not a "major relationship" in her life. By stating my name, you are implying that I was and at the same time, giving credit to the irresponsible sources. I really would appreciate if you left my name out of her biography. It will mislead people into thinking we influenced in each other's work or collaborated with each other on our projects. Even a small bit of information put in the wrong area and cited in reference sources that are incorrect, can lead people to those incorrect sources and create future problems. I am trying my best to avoid misleading people and obviously, I have done a poor job explaining this to you. 220.105.1.72 (talk) 02:31, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Why put so much weight on McGinty's unauthorized biography. Obviously, the author didn't do very good research if she didn't know the name of Cynthia Rylant's second husband or first husband. It was padded for story sake. We should not be padding the life and career section. I agree with Pilkey. Mentioning his name gives weight to their relationship. People can date and know a person for years and not have a meaningful relationship. Time spent with a person does not make it valuable. They may have dated many different people for long periods of time. Let's not pad the article. 24.209.32.171 (talk) 03:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Dav Pilkey, I have removed your name.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:03, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  life and career 

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message: Actually, Rylant's "Mr. Putter & Tabby Pour the Tea" is really for non-"peppy" old folks like me, as much as for children, unlike the rest of that series. Acwilson9 (talk) 02:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adult book or children's book? 

message: Actually, Rylant's first, "Mr. Putter & Tabby Pour the Tea", is really for non-"peppy" old folks like me, as much as for children. Acwilson9 (talk) 03:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adult book or children's book?