Talk:Darren Clarke

message: Until some one can work his birth place in to the main article cleanly (as required by the style manual), I'm removing his birth place. He was born in Dungannon, County Tyrone. Trevor1 05:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Many Northern Irishmen are proudly Irish, but are also - of course - British citizens. There is much confusion about this - including on Wiki (see entry on Eddie Irvine for example). To avoid confusion it is useful to identify clearly both the Irishness and the British Citizenship. It is factually correct to do so and good encyclopaedic practice. PaddyBriggs 10:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any confusion other than your edits here and at Eddie Irvine. Mentioning that he was born in Northern Ireland is sufficient to establish his citizenship of the UK. Catchpole 10:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The story is that when they were posing for that photograph Darren Clarke (a Northern Irish Protestant) said "You'd better give me the orange bit!", to much laughter all round. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 06:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Regarding the infobox, the nationality should be Northern Ireland as per other golfer articles. They don't British, they say NI, England, Scotland or Wales. A golfer competes for an individual home nation, not the UK. Stu ’Bout ye! 09:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I disagree with the last entry. All British sportsmen have "British" as their legal nationality. You cannot have a Scottish or a Northern Irish or a Welsh or an English passport. In addition they may compete for their country of origin/birth in certain tournaments such as the World Cup of Golf where the individual countries of the UK compete under their own name rather than together as "Great Britain and NI". So Mr Clarke's legal nationality is British. That's what it says on his passport. In addition he may compete for Northern Ireland (although actually I don't think that he ever has) just as Monty plays for Scotland or Nick Faldo for England. My amendment to the info box makes this clear. Any visitor to the entry would not be confused if they see against Darren British  ( Northern Ireland). 
PaddyBriggs 09:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the infobox isn't clear, but my reading is that it is saying who he represents in golf. In this case it is Northern Ireland. Or Scotland for Monty etc. See this or the scoreboard on this page or this or this. It is not stating his actual nationality, of course you can't have a Welsh, Northern Irish, Scottish or English passport. Stu ’Bout ye! 10:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text:  'Darren Clarke presumably has a British Passport'- "Presumably"? Sorry, but  your presumptions do not cut it. Internalise this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Attribution#Reliable_sources 89.100.195.42 21:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'All British sportsmen have "British" as their legal nationality.'- Indeed they do. The minor matter of no part of Ireland being a part of Britain now, or ever in history, begs the question: just what has any of this to do with a man born in Ireland? 89.100.195.42 22:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'You cannot have a Scottish or a Northern Irish or a Welsh or an English passport.'-Indeed you cannot, which is why everybody born in Ireland is entitled to an Irish Passport. It would appear that you are struggling to fit Ireland in as a province in your British nationalist framework. Long may it continue! 89.100.195.42 22:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone born in Northern Ireland, while they may be entitled to claim an Irish passport, are subjects of the UK and are British unless specifically declared otherwise by revoking their British citizenship. Ben W Bell talk 08:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It is worth noting that the Irish government has redefined the word "Ireland" to mean the state that it governs - that's its official name. Northern Ireland, therefore, is not part of "Ireland" but is its own seperate entity, known as Northern Ireland. Personally, I don't believe that governments have the ability to alter language, but there are those who disagree. TharkunColl 16:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ireland was always its official name.  Hughsheehy 00:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The term British refers to all citizens of the United Kingdom — including Welsh, Scottish, English, and Northern Irish. People from Northern Ireland can choose to be Irish, British or both; this is the position under the respective nationality laws of the two states and was formalised by treaty in the Good Friday Agreement. Darren Clarke is British but he may have chosen, or declared himself, to be Irish. It is, of course, perfectly possible to be both Irish and British. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusion over Irishness

message: An excerpt of Darren Clarke talking on RTÉ about some golf victory a few years ago - in the Ryder Cup in 2006? - very shortly after his wife died and about how he felt great being "an Irishman" that day was played on RTÉ Radio last weekend. 86.45.61.211 (talk) 19:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Irishman

message: flag shown on summary is the ulster banner-this is not an official flag for northern ireland the union flag could be used as a defacto flag  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amazon543 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
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