Talk:The Motherland Calls

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The result of the proposal was Move to The Motherland Calls. Duja► 12:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Weak Support. definitely better than the present one. But a (spelling) alternative may somewhat preserve the motherly idea: "Your Mother Land is Calling (You)". --Pan Gerwazy 15:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I switch my support to another one resembling this proposal: "The Motherland calls". That wins the google test hands down. --Pan Gerwazy 20:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments: --Russavia 05:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Starting with "your" this is obviously a neologism, and as such cannot be the titele of a wikipedia article. Withdrawn. --Pan Gerwazy 20:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Comment Normal google text searches aren't a good test, as you mention, as it is unknown how many of the "Mother Motherland" results are as a direct result of people consulting this article in finding an English name. Perhaps a more accurate search is by using scholar, books and news.
Google news find no relevant results for "Mother Motherland", but finds plenty of relevant results for The Motherland is Calling. Google books finds plenty of relevant results for The Motherland is Calling, and only one relevant result for Mother Motherland. Google scholar finds a couple of relevant results for Mother Motherland, and a couple of dozen relevant results for The Motherland is calling. The only real question is whether it should be "The Motherland is Calling" or the "The Motherland is Calling You", and I believe it should be simply The Motherland is Calling as the statue is based on the poster with the same name which was used during the Great Patriotic War, in which it wasn't calling individual Soviet citizens, but calling ALL Soviet citizens. --Russavia 20:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: So, I think we should go for "The Motherland Calls". "The Motherland Is Calling", however, contrary to what you think, is actually the highest placed of the ones we checked until now.--Pan Gerwazy 20:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Weak Support. definitely better than the present one. But a (spelling) alternative may somewhat preserve the motherly idea: "Your Mother Land is Calling (You)". --Pan Gerwazy 15:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I switch my support to another one resembling this proposal: "The Motherland calls". That wins the google test hands down. --Pan Gerwazy 20:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments: --Russavia 05:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Starting with "your" this is obviously a neologism, and as such cannot be the titele of a wikipedia article. Withdrawn. --Pan Gerwazy 20:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Comment Normal google text searches aren't a good test, as you mention, as it is unknown how many of the "Mother Motherland" results are as a direct result of people consulting this article in finding an English name. Perhaps a more accurate search is by using scholar, books and news.
Google news find no relevant results for "Mother Motherland", but finds plenty of relevant results for The Motherland is Calling. Google books finds plenty of relevant results for The Motherland is Calling, and only one relevant result for Mother Motherland. Google scholar finds a couple of relevant results for Mother Motherland, and a couple of dozen relevant results for The Motherland is calling. The only real question is whether it should be "The Motherland is Calling" or the "The Motherland is Calling You", and I believe it should be simply The Motherland is Calling as the statue is based on the poster with the same name which was used during the Great Patriotic War, in which it wasn't calling individual Soviet citizens, but calling ALL Soviet citizens. --Russavia 20:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: So, I think we should go for "The Motherland Calls". "The Motherland Is Calling", however, contrary to what you think, is actually the highest placed of the ones we checked until now.--Pan Gerwazy 20:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Ive added the last bit in the main article regarding the simularitys beetween Motherland state and the Winged Victory of Samothrace but im terrible at speling anyone want to lend a hand and edit it if anyone feel that its inapropiete for the article just delit it then --JvlivsCaesar 02:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Another edit needed: Does anyone have the faintest idea what is meant by "It is understood that the sword, forged on the bank of the Urals, was later raised by Motherland in Stalingrad and omitted after the Victory in Berlin." (it is at the end of the lede)1812ahill (talk) 16:20, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some one edit please 

message: A exact scale replica is located in Glasnevin Dublin - Source: Ken's Magic Jumpers
Reason: The source is not linked anywhere and appears Bogus. Also I do not know of any replica in Dublin and have researched this fact too. If I am mistaken please add this back in with a link to the Dublin statue.
--Mcgon (talk) 07:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the following... 

message: This page conflicts with List_of_statues_by_height, the Spring_Temple_Buddha is almost twice as tall.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omicron91 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tallest Statue 

message: What is it made of?  And can we have more information on its structure and construction?
Cs302b (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composition 

message: The lead image of this article has been nominated for deletion on Commons, on the basis that the statue is copyrighted and there is no acceptable freedom of panorama in Russia; see :Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rodina mat zovet.jpg. If deleted this image may be re-uploaded here at a lower resolution under fair use. Dcoetzee 07:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be nice to get that low-res picture in here. Unschool 17:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion notice 

message: In the statue comparisons, the Statue of Liberty is included at 93 meters; however, this includes it's plinth, with the statue itself being 46 meters tall; should this be changed to (using the style from the statue of David)
2. Statue of Liberty 46 meters (statue 46m + base = 93 meters)
115.124.4.18 (talk) 10:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: yes; if it was the World's tallest statue 1967 –1989, cannot be the Statue of Liberty tallest.Assianir (talk) 17:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statue of liberty 

message: The linked list of large statues includes two larger statues that are newer than "The Motherland Calls": a statue of Peter the Great, clearly not a Buddhist image, and one of two emperors of China, which probably isn't Buddhist. Superlatives are nice, but not at the expense of accuracy. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 05:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larger non-Buddhist statues 

message: The sculpture is the second part of triptych consisted from sculpture in Magnitogorsk and sculpture in Soviet war memorial in Treptower Park Berlin. Someone should write a word or two abut it --95.82.220.34 (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triptych 

message: The phrase "The Motherland of my Birth is Calling" does not make sense. There is no word "birth" in the original name of the statue. "Motherland" is a good analog for russian word "Rodina". Secondly the statement "The duplication of the wording in the title "Mother Motherland" does not exist in the original" is not true: this is excactly how the first part of the statue's name sounds in russian. Paragraph "Sculpture name and translation" worth deleting.145.255.181.87 (talk) 18:26, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nobody replied so I'm deleting the paragraph... 145.255.180.190 (talk) 12:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Rodina is a feminine word which is derived from the root "birth" - simply put, it's Personification Of Birth Country. It has no Mothers in it, which is why Russians are able to pair it with "Mother" in a poetic cliche "Родина-мать". Homeland Mother, like it's in the article now, is a fine compromise. AyeBraine (talk) 09:28, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sculpture name and translation 

message: http://v1.ru/text/news/257051762909184.html - Source. Monument will be restored in 2017-2018 year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.81.203.161 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for interesting and important info, I added it to an article. But, next time try it yourself:) Jirka.h23 (talk) 07:17, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Structural problems need to change paragraph

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message: I deleted the Facts sections for trivia reasons. I will redistribute the facts to their respective pages, but if anyone could help with that, that'd be wonderful.
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* The sculpture is depicted on the postage stamp of the GDR 1983.
* A copy of the sculpture is present in Manzhouli, China.
* The sculpture is also depicted on a 1975 one Ruble commemorative coin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beansohgod (talk • contribs) 13:38, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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