Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Webcomics/Archive 1

message: If you come across (or write) an article on a web comic that seems to be overly short or missing important information, and you can't expand it yourself, use the  stub notice.
If you're looking for articles that need expansion, go to :Category:Web comics stubs: it'll list all of the articles with the webcomic-stub notice on them.  — Gwalla | Talk 03:36, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Stubs

message: I'm in favor of explaining webcomics, but I wonder how much is too much.
The Irritability page was just edited by an anonymous user who added quite a bit of detail to each character writeup - this kind of obsessive detail seems a little unseemly, and not really encyclopedic anymore.  I didn't want to revert it without some sort of consensus about where the line should be drawn.  Is Megatokyo a good model?  DenisMoskowitz 21:39, 2004 Nov 24 (UTC)
*Megatokyo is a good model, although I think it covers the forum in too much detail. I don't think Irritability has been expanded to much, but the style it's written in is certainly unencyclopedic in tone, and the format is a mess.  — Gwalla | Talk 02:18, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  How much is too much? 

message: Warning: Blatantly self-interested query follows
Okay. I have a webcomic: Scrolling Blackout. It's been around for several months. Problem is, I don't quite know what would qualify as a "strip": it's not quite a conventional layout, it's more of a 'moving window' of the last six panels. This makes the layout oh-so-easy, but presents a unique problem. Right now, I only have 150 panels. And, as mentioned on the project page, any webcomic with an archive of 100 strips or more should get an article.
So, I'll ask for opinions: Do you think that a conversion ratio of 3 panels => 1 strip reasonable? Could you take a look and tell me what you think? (Yes, go look at the pretty webcomic, mwuahahaa :)
(Note also: I have no plans to add my webcomic to Wikipedia. Ever. Maybe get someone else to do it, sure, but not to add it myself. I've dealt with too many vanity articles. :) -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 21:20, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Most comic strips are four panels long, so a 4:1 panel to "strip" ratio seems reasonable. On the other hand, since the visible strip is six panels long in your case, a case could be made that a 6:1 ratio is more appropriate. I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. ;)  — Gwalla | Talk 04:43, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a "strip"? 

message: As I posted in the Talk:Webcomic discussion... We need some clarification here. A change was just made to the webcomic entry which now implies that a comic being published via Usenet/FTP is the "first webcomic". Is webcomic to include all protocols of distribution (ie, any comic distrubted on the internet in any format/protocol) or is it going to be limited to comics published excusively on the World Wid Web as a web page? If we're going to go the "any" route, then why not include many of the furry, anime, and computer joke one-offs that we're posted to the Compuserve image groups in the mid-80's, which ended up making to ftp/usnet?--bcRIPster 07:18, 17 Jul 2005 (MST)
:I agree but we need concrete dates. Perhaps a mention of the debate over the first actual webcomic itself should be mentioned in the entry? -- kainee 129.21.190.25 22:43, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a "web comic"? 

message: There's a WikiProject comics that is pretty active. I think it'd be a good idea for this project to join theirs as a sub-project: the increased visibility and opportunities for closer collaboration could be useful. Note that Wikipedia:WikiProject Comic strips is a subproject, so we're not talking about a "superhero comic books only, all others need not apply" group here.  — Gwalla | Talk 04:43, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webcomics and their place in the comics world 

message: The new template  is a notice that an article is part of this WikiProject:
If you start a new article, or cleanup/expand and existing article, on a webcomic or webcartoonist, it'd be a good idea to add it to the corresponding talk page (not the article itself).  — Gwalla | Talk 21:39, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webcomics project notice 

message: Does anyone else think we should fix up the project page to conform to the standard format for WikiProjects?  — Gwalla | Talk 21:30, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject format 

message: There is some serious vain/advert/non-notable material there, some of it for years.
So I request the following articles from :Category:Web comics stubs to be nominated for deletion :
*Digital War
*Four panels of fun
*George Comics
*Kick in the head
*Melleck Xaos
*Mitch Clem
*Our Home Planet
*Titan Aresta
*WoT now?
There might be more to be added. - Harg 8:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was starting to add webcomic stubs to the "Articles that need lots of expansion" and saw a lot of stubs that probably needed to be deleted. Should there be a  "Articles in need of deletion" category on the project page? Dragonfiend 17:22, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not a bad idea. --DNicholls 04:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webcomic stubs need clean-up 

message: Is comic of any interest, or should it go up for vfd?--nixie 02:57, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 134 strips, over the course of three years, two months, with an unknown amount of filler.  Alexa rank of only 750,000.  Last update a month ago. --Carnildo 05:30, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[This Comic Sucks]]

message: Looks like Dethboy was just put on the list by 71.240.42.199, which IP's entire actions are inserting Dethboy, and I was wondering if it's valid. It has well over 100 comics listed in its archive, but all Alexa says is "No Data" and "Not in the top 100,000". I would think that precludes the comic, but I wanted to make sure I've got this straight. For the record, it was rv'd from the list of webcomcis. --DNicholls 07:26, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable inclusion 

message: These could probably do with some discussion. Without oversight, it's more of an "articles some people want" than an "articles we need" list. For example, do we really need a "webcomics genres" article? That sounds more like a section in the main webcomic article to me (beyond "sprite comics", which is only sort of a genre, there really aren't any genres specific to webcomics). And it'd be kind of silly for an article to be created because it's on this list only to get sent to VfD.  — Gwalla | Talk 05:31, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles we need 

message: These two comics, recently added, meet the 100 strip criterion, but there's also the notability criterion to consider. Last Cereal doesn't get an Alexa rating, and untitled.gif is ranked 4,177,629, with no recoreded data. The short of it is: under the Alexa guidelines, they don't count. However, there are notable comics that don't, such as some KSpot comics. So, if someone can give a good reason for them being exempted the Alexa criterion, they should stay; if not, they'll need to be deleted.--DNicholls 23:46, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Cereal and Untitled.gif