Talk:Wrexham A.F.C.

message: Have removed Simon Lenard-Jones from the squad, as a Wrexham fan I've never heard of him and can't find any other evidence of him on the net - please re-add with some evidence if anyone knows who he is. Jaded1 12:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Simon Lenard-Jones

message: THIS MUST BE THE MOST BIASED AND OPIONATED ARTICLE ON WIKI!!" WREXHAM HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION AS GIANT KILLERS". yEAH, EVERYWHERE I GO AROUND THE WORLD ALL PEOPLE ASK IS ABOUT WREXHAM!!! Please someone sort this page out, its about a tiny, unimportant little none league team, not manhester united. FFS!!!!!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.249.185 (talk) 09:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: BIASED AND OPIONATED

message: British English should be used for articles on Britain related topics. Likewise, American English should be used on articles pertaining to American topics. For a clearer example, please visit this sub-section on the differences between their usage. --Siva1979Talk to me 05:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A note on British English 

message: As found in the Companies House website and mentioned in the article itself:
Wrexham Football Club (2006) Ltd is the name of the 'phoenix' company that took over the assets of the old Wrexham Association Football Club Limited so technically the club is no longer known as Wrexham AFC
Should this article be moved to Wrexham FC? Marbles 21:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just removed that sentence from the article, as I think it is based on a misunderstanding of company law.  Yes, the holding company is WFC (2006) Ltd, but it is "trading as" Wrexham AFC.  What really matters is what name it uses on the badge etc.  The website is still WrexhamAFC.  Wikipedia has to follow, not lead. --Concrete Cowboy 00:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to Move 

message: Contemporary Wrexham Advertiser articles reports foundation of the club as 1864.  Reports of the first match as taking place on 22nd October of that year (Wrexham advertiser 8/10/1864, 21/10/1864, 29/10/1864).  My (referenced) edits were reverted but see the Trust AGM documents for further evidence of continuity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.92.107 (talk) 16:54, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of foundation 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wrexham badge.jpg

message: I've just taken a look at this page for the first time in many months, and have to say that I am absolutely horrified with the absolute shambles this article has become. It has obviously become a plaything for a few anonymous editors who have been putting any old rubbish in here, and the continual edits and reverts have left crap all over the place - "Grove Park School for disabled children" in the early history of the club??? I am immediately semi-protecting this article to keep the vandals out - if you want to edit it, get yourself a registered account and wait 4 days. I'm also going to revert the article to the 12th October version which at least seems to be relatively problem-free - sorry if some genuine edits get reverted, but good-faith editors can always put those back. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 23:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The state of this page. 

message: Hi, I would like to propose that the inclusion criteria be:
Played a substantial number of games for Wrexham OR attained international caps.Pwimageglow (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Former Players criteria 

message: Can anybody cite a reliable source on 007 actor Daniel Craig's support for Wrexham AFC?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.5.250.131 (talk) 12:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Craig?! 

message: In the history section (1872 - 1905) a reference is being made to the Football Combination league, which Wrexham joined in 1890. However, the wikilink points to an article about a league that wasn't started until 1915 and says that it shouldn't be confused with something else.
Maybe I'm just a stupid dutchman who knows nothing about English/Welsh football, but shouldn't the link point to The_Combination rather than Football_Combination?
Skysmurf (talk) 21:52, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay people, it's been almost a week and nobody either made the edit or told me I'm wrong. I'm starting to feel more and more inclined to go ahead and make the edit, so if you're sure that I'm wrong please tell me. Skysmurf (talk) 02:17, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous wikilink? 

message: I think it's too long for the main page and a new page would be suitable - "History of Wrexham AFC" - for example. Pretty much every club has an additional page for their history as there's a lot of text. 
Would anyone be able to move the history to a new page and copy the text/pictures/references over? I would be happy to then update the new page as there's quite a bit missing. For example, we have more text on the current season then we do for 1960-70!
AndrewRichardJones (talk) 19:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrexham FC history 

message: Wrexham has a fierce rivalry with Chester,[64][65] the clubs are just 12 miles apart, but are English and Welsh respectively
This is the text in the article but it is not correct, the clubs are surely 'Welsh and English respectively' and not the other way round ????/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.158.205.231 (talk) 12:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence in the Rivalries section is incorrect.... 

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message: The article claims that Wrexham is the 3rd oldest football club in the world but this is objectively wrong.
Sheffield Football Club was founded in 1857.
Melbourne Football Club was founded in 1859 and Geelong Football Club was founded later that same year.
All those 3 football clubs still exist.
Wrexham was founded in 1864. Therefore, Wrexham can't be the 3rd oldest football club in the world. However, Melbourne and Geelong play Aussie Rules.
Does the article mean that Wrexham is the 3rd oldest soccer club in the world? If so, then this should be clarified in the article.
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Wales is the third oldest professional team. WelshOfWallStreet (talk) 00:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @WelshOfWallStreet, Wales? (you sure?) This is about Wrexham. :D Wrexham A.F.C. is the third oldest association football team still in existence. The lead used to say just "football" which means different things internationally, so corrected to "association football" (happily not "soccer") after this IP comment. The issue is resolved I guess. DankJae 11:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older Football Clubs in Other Codes 

message: Should Welcome to Wrekham have it own page. 92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I support Welcome to Wrexham having its own page, I have started a draft here, as of this comment it is in the very early draft stage. DankJae 17:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  W2W 

message: I don’t know if this is just quibbling, but I’m not sure if “RR McReynolds Company, LLC” should be listed as the owners as it’s not a registered company in the UK (no entry on Companies House). It was in fact registered in Delaware in October 2020  and has a branch registered in California in September 2021 . Thoughts? — Arwel Parry (talk) 19:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Is there a guideline against foreign companies in football club infoboxes? Arsenal F.C. and Leicester City F.C. do have foreign owners in their infoboxes? I believe it is important that readers can easily see the ownership of a club (especially with the coverage around it), regardless if the owner is British or not. But be free to explain further, confused at what the issue is, do UK football clubs only list the owner if they're British-owned? Thanks DankJae 19:28, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is information about the ownership of Wrexham AFC on their own site (See here), it says "Wrexham AFC Limited is wholly owned by Wrexham Holdings LLC. The R.R. McReynolds Company, LLC, a company formed pursuant to the Delaware Limited Liability Company Act in the USA own 95% of the shares in Wrexham Holdings LLC. The R.R. McReynolds Company, LLC is owned equally by Rob McElhenney & Ryan Reynolds and as such, they are jointly the ultimate beneficial owners of 95% in Wrexham AFC Limited." YborCityJohn (talk) 14:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership details in infobox 

message: Think an SVG version of the club logo should be added if possible. Joseph1891 (talk) 15:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't able to find a SVG one when I looked a few months ago. If found, be free to replace the image and with the non-free rationale. A SVG replacement would improve the article. DankJae 17:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

text: @WelshOfWallStreet, noticed you overwritten the non-free file with a smaller version. I only see a minor colour change, is there any chance for a version in a resolution similar to the previous image? Thanks DankJae 11:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

text: The replacement is more blurry and smaller, but I guess colour wise more accurate. The green and red is slightly lighter (older version to be deleted on Dec 23). Would prefer SVG, but seems to not be available for the current logo with 1864. DankJae 19:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: https://freebiesupply.com/logos/wrexham-afc-logo/ Joseph1891 (talk) 21:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That has 1873 rather than 1864, so the old logo pre-2012. It also looks stylistically different (may be a user mock-up?), in particular the dragons. It would be best for one from official Wrexham A.F.C. documents. Thanks though. DankJae 22:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Think the logo needs updating 

message: In the left, it says that at some time in the past the club was "relegated."  This may be a term of art in the UK to mean "reduced to some understood lower status," but as a U.S. reader, I'm left saying "relegated to WHAT?"  Edison (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the pyramid of British football certain numbers of teams drop each year from one league to the next one down; this is relegation.  Some equal number, of course, go from the lower to the higher; this is promotion, which Wrexham has just achieved with this weekend's game result.  Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 16:45, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: While I am open to it being more clear, if "relegated" follows a statement such as "fourth tier", then assume it means to the fifth tier. DankJae 17:14, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

text: Because of how the English football pyramid works, there is only one place a relegated professional team can go—-that is the league below. It is therefore self evident, unless you are talking about relegation to regional leagues in which case there may even be a choice of which league the club enters. Regional divisons and leagues begin below the top tier of the National League from which Wrexham have just gained promotion from. SteadyJames (talk) 14:54, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Usage of "relegated"

message: With this article at over 160kB, I believe this article would qualify for WP:SIZESPLIT as it seems quite bloated currently. I was considering splitting sections from this article such as: Player of the Year, Young Player of the Year, Steve Edwards Goal of the Season Award, Top scorers and PFA Team of the Year onto a new page - List of Wrexham A.F.C. records and statistics. I would also add honours and European records etc in line with other existing pages such as: List of Port Vale F.C. records and statistics. What are people's thoughts on this? Michaeldble (talk) 15:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed new article - List of Wrexham A.F.C. records and statistics 

message: In the part of the article documenting the goings-on in the early years of this century, there’s a bit: “Had the club still been in Administration by 3 June (2007) then Wrexham would have automatically been expelled from the League because of their financial situation. Wrexham Football Club (2006) Ltd is the name of the "phoenix" company that took over the assets of the old Wrexham Association Football Club Limited – technically, the club is no longer known as Wrexham Association Football Club due to the takeover of the club by Neville Dickens and Geoff Moss and their associates; this is reflected on new merchandise, although most fans will still refer to it as "Wrexham AFC".”
This is not actually a full description of what happened, but the tangled web of administration and suchlike is complex, as I discovered while poking around on Companies House:
:— the original limited company was company number 124022, Wrexham Association Football Club Limited (The),  incorporated on 29 August 1912, in administration between 3 December 2004 and 29 May 2007, still showing as active on Companies House, though with accounts overdue since 2005! This is the company Gutterman and Hamilton were directors of.
:— Company number 5800501, Wrexham Football Club (2006) Ltd, incorporated 28 April 2006, dissolved on 10 March 2015. This is the company Neville Dickens was a director of 2006-2008.
:— there’s also company number 7638718, Wrexham Football Club Limited, incorporated 18 May 2011 and dissolved on 8 January 2013, Jonathan Elwyn Harris was the only director, and the company was dissolved by compulsory strike-off, implying that it never filed any accounts with Companies House.
:— Company number 7698872, Wrexham AFC Limited, incorporated 8 July 2011 - this is the company Ryan and Rob bought, which they and Humphrey Ker are the current directors of.
:— there’s also company number 6931786 Wrexham AFC Community Trust (until 2 November 2021, The Racecourse Community Foundation), incorporated 11 June 2009, a “Private Limited Company by guarantee without share capital use of ‘Limited’ exemption”, Humphrey Ker is one of 5 remaining directors of this company. They filed an annual report and accounts with Companies House earlier this year which makes interesting reading, documenting their charitable work promoting football in North Wales.
— Arwel Parry (talk) 15:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual legal name of the owning company