Talk:Pound–Rebka experiment

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: f_r=\sqrt{\frac{1-\dfrac{2GM}{(R+h)c^2}}{1-\dfrac{2GM}{Rc^2}}}f_e.
where f_r (f_e) is the frequency of the receiver (emitter), h is the distance between the receiver and emitter, M is the Earth's mass, G is Newton's constant and c is the speed of light.
I think the article should say what R is. I don't think it does anywhere. --IslandHopper 973 12:17, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's R? 

message: This is a demonstration without using einstein's relativity : https://twitter.com/TheDetective_L/status/1086677193110024192  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.177.134.132 (talk) 19:46, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A demonstration of pound-rebka experiment's formula (by akram louiz): 

message: When I read this sentence, I thought I could fix it:
:"Consider an electron bound to an atom in an excited state."
Okay, that's how sodium vapor lamps work. The emitted photons are yellow. But this experiment uses gamma rays, this is much higher-energy and uses nuclear transitions, the movement of protons and neutrons within the nucleus. Electrons are not involved.
Then I saw the next two whole paragraphs, it says "electron" and "atom" so many times.
Unfortunately, it's "nucleus" and "nucleus", and they are both the same isotope, they are both iron-57. It's not even iron-57 and iron-57m, there is no iron-57m, the excited state of the nucleus is too unstable to get a name, the "m" means "metastable".
I just... I just don't know how to fix it. I don't know General Relativity, but this is chemistry - or close enough. Electrons transitioning between orbitals was discovered earlier and (in my opinion) has a lot more applications, but the photons are lower-energy and the line widths are wide. They even named the electron orbitals and have molecular orbitals, and they can explain why phenolphthalein changes color when the pH changes. I'm not sure people really know what is going on inside the iron-57 nucleus, and they certainly don't have pictures of both states, which they do for phenolphthalein. (To be fair, I haven't seen a picture of the two molecular orbitals in the colorful form of phenolphthalein, but they can draw those pictures, too. Showing that a large conjugated ring electron orbital forms or is broken depending on pH is the important thing.)
I want to just say "the iron-57 nucleus can exist in an excited state or the ground state, because quantum mechanics".
It's important to understand why laser interferometry works, but you need to use lasers, not fluorescent lamps.
This experiment needed to use nuclear transitions, not electrons. That's because the line width is very narrow. The resulting photons are very high energy, they are gamma rays.
Atomic clocks often use hyperfine structure, and transitions between hyperfine states, which gives extremely low energy photons, usually microwave or radio frequency. Just like a fluorescent lamp, the line width is not narrow. But just like lasers, they make the whole apparatus oscillate in phase.
I know that you can "drive" a microwave cavity at the wrong frequency, it is just less efficient, so I actually don't understand how atomic clocks are super precise. That probably involves electrical engineering and PID controllers, or something. People don't fall off of hoverboards, so they seem to be pretty good at PID controllers. If I can stand on a hoverboard for ten seconds, then an atomic clock can probably stay very near the maximum efficiency frequency for ten years. Apparently. Fluoborate (talk) 15:07, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I made some changes to address your concerns and to clarify details of the experiment that were not described clearly. Hope you like my changes and find that the things that seemed confusing have been addressed to your satisfaction, especially how the extreme precision in measuring the gravitational Doppler shift was managed. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog (talk) 22:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Juan lacruz (talk) 21:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The gamma rays come from nuclear transitions, not electrons, but it mentions electrons SO MANY TIMES