Talk:Tha Carter III/Archive 1

message: Do you think this album could really be classified as "crunk"? I disagree. Any thoughts?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.122.9 (talk) 00:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre Labeling

message: Dr. Carter
Dubayou (talk) 16:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's gone anyways so forget about it, lol.
--Piazzajordan2 (straight chillin) 07:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Carter Page needs to be updated  

message: NEW LEAKED SONGS (MAY 30TH)
Go to hotnewhiphop.com.. About six new songs have been leaked
The tracklisting on this page is WRONG!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillon90 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title Of Leaked Songs From: Tha Carter III 

message: we need sources for all this information otherwise it just looks like a load of made up bullshit Lionelxhutz 04:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The youngmoneyent.com 'source' has nothing as far as tracklisting.--NPswimdude500 05:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tracks and information

message: Does anyone actually know when it will come out
Wayne stated that it'll be ready September/October, so that means we can expect third Carter in the December or first months of 2007. --213.238.91.167 13:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there are sources for the recent change of the release date? If there are no recent sources for a release date, then I will remove it altogether. At this point, it seems to be pure speculation anyway...--NPswimdude500 04:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ????? serious question

message: Well, this article claims that the lead single will be released in early October; it is now late october and no single has been released, so I removed that portion. Vickfan 01:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Early October

message: Also I noticed that none of the rumored guests are sourced. If this has been confirmed anywhere there should be a link. I'll give the author a chance to add someVickfan 01:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for Guests?

message: Lil Wayne has stated that there will be 5 Tha Carter albums and already has songs referencing Tha Carter 4 and 5.  Someone needs to change the trilogy error.
At this point, we don't even have a solid release date for Tha Carter III. Therefore, it is not reasonable to list Tha Carter IV in the chronology section.--NPswimdude500 01:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tha Carter series is NOT a trilogy

message: I read on the Aftermath site on Dr. Dres profile that he is rumored to be producing for this album. Should he be added to the producers of the album or should we wait till more info comes out about the album? Volumesoxxs
:You need a materialized reference, otherwise it won't be added or considered to be added. --Ayoleftyz 07:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dr. Dre

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Lil Wayne Carter 3 Front.jpg

message: Carter III June 10th go to frame 3:15 Lil Wayne and the crowd will let you know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwhitaker01 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Confirmed Release Date

message: It said that tracks "Layaway" produced by Kanye, and "Pussy Monster" prod. by Cool & Dre, are confirmed in a listening seession, but everytime i keep putting them up they get deleted, its confirmed so dont delete it. Papi34 21:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You need a materialized source, not just hearsay. Until you provide that, they will be deleted. --Ayoleftyz 07:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tracks confirmed in the latest Rolling Stone mag

message: What is with all of these people adding fake/unconfirmed tracks non-stop? It's simple, read WP:BALL and if you cannot even provide a RELIABLE MATERIALIZED reference, then don't add the information. Also, do not add ridiculous stuff like track times for songs that haven't even been released correctly (i.e. live version of "Gossip" from BET Hip Hop Awards)... If it's live, that doesn't provide an accurate track time, it's a no-brainer! All vandalism WILL be reverted and you WILL be reported for these acts of vandalism, very simple. --Ayoleftyz 07:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism...

message: I dunno how to do it, but somebody needs to create an article on this and edit this one. Wayne is taking almost every track that's leaked from Tha Carter III and releasing it as a full retail album on December 18th called 'Tha Carter III: The Leak'. It's a completely seperate album, here's the link - http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1572846/20071026/lil_wayne.jhtml  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.82.7 (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tha Carter III: The Leak

message: 1.Rider
2. I Took Her
3. Navigator Man
4. Smoke Session ft. Juliany
5. Kiss Me Baby
6. I Like It ft. Boo & Mack Maine
7. Get Off Me
8. Comfortable ft. Babyface
9. Mic Check 1, 2 ft. Juliany
10. Need Some Quiet Time
11. Burn this City ft. Twista
12. Self Destruction
13. Do What We Do
14. Money, Cars, Clothes ft. T Streetz & Swizz Beatz
15. Gossip
16. Pussy, Money, Weed
17. One Night Only
18. Time to Give Me Mine
19.time to get mine
"Lollipop"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.254.139.112 (talk) 21:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Track Listing

message: ive been reading and i found an article on wayne bought the leak and the carter 3 and everybody sayin the eminem turned wayne down so i think u could add the heres a link http://www.rapbasement.com/news/lil-wayne/lil-wayne-s-the-leak-hits-stores-quietly-and-shortened.html read thru all of it its in the comments and stuff.I hope he is on tho  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.215.145.229 (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Those comments are unreliable and are as good as any other gossip we see. We need confirmed, reliable references. --Ayoleftyz (talk) 21:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Eminem

message: May 8th is not a Tuesday its a Thursday  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Straight Face (talk • contribs) 02:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: I must say, I'm curious as to why "I'm Illi" is constantly being deleted from the tracklisting of "Tha Carter III," considering the fact that it is confirmed in the very same article that confirms "Beat the Block," "Eat You Alive," and "Let the Beat Build" (Reference 20, Exclusive: Previewing Lil Wayne's Tha Carter III). If I'm mistaken, could someone simply explain it to me? --Tri-Edge 08:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A Millie

message: Will we EVER get an official track listing and album cover? It's taking forever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.53.224 (talk) 01:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Track Listing and Album Cover

message: A track titled "Lisa Marie" has been posted in Tha Carter IIi tracklisting. It's the legitimate named of a leaked track, but it has no reference to support that Wayne ever said it was going to be included on C3. I tried looking for a ref, but I could only find blogs with the leak; if anyone can find a ref, please add it (I don't know how :p); otherwise, it should be taken off.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 18:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. It doesn't show a source for the track. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 18:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lisa Marie 

message: Hurry up with a track listing already!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.53.224 (talk) 01:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be ridiculous. We can't just make up a tracklisting. We need verifiable references (not hearsay) to add tracks, and even then they might not make the final cut. The only definite tracklisting will be the one released with the album. Deal with it. :B  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 16:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Listing 

message: --AndrewTheGod (talk) 03:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Track 

message: why would someone change it back to chanell for featuring under showtime?
it clearly is featuring juilany and main event as of right now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewTheGod (talk • contribs) 23:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because you need a referenced source. Even though the track's posted all over the web, that might not be the same version used on the album. If you can prove Weezy's said that's the official version, provided the link and it'll be changed. No biggie. :b
Heres the track listing accourding to http://www.urbanbridgez.com/wire.htm
1. 3 PEAT
2. MR. CARTER FEAT. - JAYZ
3. A MILLI
4. GOT MONEY FEAT. - TPAIN
5. COMFORTABLE FEAT. - BABYFACE
6. PHONE HOME
7. DR. CARTER
8. TIE MY HANDS - FEAT. ROBIN THICKE
9. SHOOT ME DOWN FEAT. - D.SMIH
10. PLAYN WITH FIRE FEAT. - BETTY WRIGHT
11. LOLLIPOP FEAT. - STATIC MAJOR
12. LA FEAT. - BRISCO, BUSTA RHYMES
13. GOOD GIRL GONE BAD
14. YOU AINT GOT NUTHIN ON ME FEAT. - FABOLOUS, JUELZ SANTANA
15. LET THE BEAT BUILD
16. WHIP IT
17. MISUNDERSTOOD
Who the hell keeps changing it back? It aint like I'm not supplying a source as to where I got this track listing from and yeah it looks legit to me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Straight Face (talk • contribs) 03:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: And, um, how the heezy Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, and Timbaland song didn't make it? No way... 83.149.49.217 (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite frankly, I think the tracklisting's a fake. Just because multiple sources are screaming it's real doesn't mean they're reliable. Besides that, there's been no verification of authenticity from Wayne's camp, so, until then, I say we leave the tracklisting as is. When we have a reliable source, I'll bite my tongue and we'll change it. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Listing 

message: Can anybody tell me if this is going to be on C3? Because i really like the song and Lil Wayne wrecked it.
Since he said no leaked music will be on the album I doubt that it will make the final cut, and I dont know if it was even in consideration.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThabigQ (talk • contribs) 12:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but Wayne's never confirmed afterwards that'll still be on the album, so it's mostly up to speculation and old refernces. But, yeah, "Me & My Drank" is a hot song (R.I.P. Big Moe, R.I.P. Pimp C). -- Tri-Edge (talk) 00:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not even Lil' Wayne's song... its "Short Dawg" a Houston rappers song which Lil' Wayne is featured on.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.239.85 (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaked Track “Me and My Drank”? 

message: It was stated in an interview in XXL a few months ago that the original "Hello Brooklyn" song (off of which Jay-Z based his version) would be on the album, and that it would feature verses from Mos Def and Talib Kweli.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.141.178 (talk) 20:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In a few months, it could've been scratched from the album. Do you have the link? I'll check it out. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello Brooklyn 

message: I thing yall should add Lollipop (Remix) to the tracklist. Because yall keep saying tha official will be released two weeks prior to C3 but it was leaked today (May 14, 2008) featuring kanYeWest.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.200.35 (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lollipop (Official Remix) 

message: What the hell is this, should we take it off? It is not in the sources provided, though it's on his discography page. It just sounds like an outrageous track that will never happen. 
---Piazzajordan2 03:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Middle Eastern Party?

message: if you read the articles doesn't "Dinnertime" and "Eat You Alive" seem like the same track but one has luda on it maybe it was a recent add. But they both talk about eating rappers. 
---Piazzajordan2 00:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison 

message: Got Money's een added to the tracklisting with a cited source, but I'm not entirely sure if the source is legit or reliable. Anyone care to check it out ? -- Tri-Edge (talk) 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I say take it off until we get a more legit source.ThabigQ (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Got Money Citation 

message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eQoCebVGyQ
it really explains itself...got money made the cut....I dunno what other songs are to be included tho.--AndrewTheGod (talk) 00:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to bust your bubble, but that doesn't prove "Got Money" made the cut. :p It only proves that T-Pain, Jay-Z, & Kanye are on the album. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 00: 46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes because they could have easily been talking about Snap Yo Fingaz by T-Pain  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.200.35 (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Tell me about it. :B But there's always the possibility that Wayne and Pain may have recorded a track that didn't leak (pfft, yeah right) and made the album. It's really more of a wait and see. If anything, I'm really just waiting for this "official" track list Birdman's been talking about. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 01: 25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah its a possibility....but I just think its hard to believe that waynes label would release a tracklist for a CD they didnt even finish until 6 days ago. I think we will see something set and stone next week. not to mention best buy/amazon/etc.. havent listed this so called legit tracklist for the CD either.--AndrewTheGod (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BAD NEWS 

message: The tracklisting that is supposedly real is not. some of the songs on it will make the cut for the real one tho, songs include (that I know of): Mrs Officer, Whip It, Let The Beat Build. cant provide an internet source sadly :(. but the tracklisting should be out next week for sure.--63.228.115.28 (talk) 20:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can scratch that good news. That tracklisting is, according to Amazon.com, the official tracklisting.
http://www.amazon.com/Tha-Carter-III-Lil-Wayne/dp/B0013ABI48
I'll go edit the tracklisting. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 21: 24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
All of a sudden the carter III doesnt look too good....it like lost all its appeal...--AndrewTheGod (talk) 21:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I'll agree on that. The production is fine, I suppose, but the featured artists are rather boring, and most of the tracks have already been heard and are lyrcially inferior to Tha Carter II. "Got Money," "Comfortable," "You Ain't Got Nuthin on Me," "A Milli," "Lollipop,"... practically half the albumh as already surfaced. It's a bit discouraging. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 22:06, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Of the whole track listing, the only tracks that sound interesting to me are "Whip It" and "Misunderstood". Unfortunately, the production for those tracks is unknown, so they might turn out to be complete garbage. -- Tri-Edge (talk) 22:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GOOD NEWS 

message: David Banner announced on May 21st 2008 on 106 & Park that he will be producing 2 beats for Tha Carter III.
Merzerio (talk) 01:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He's already listed as a producer. SE KinG (talk) 03:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEW PRODUCER UPDATE 

message: Got Money Featuring T Pain is the 2nd single, confirmed on Itunes and the new webisode on lil waynes myspace page.
Deezle has confirmed that "Mrs Officer, Whip it, Misunderstood" (he produced these will be on the final tracklist for TCIII)
--AndrewTheGod (talk) 23:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I HATE BRINGING BAD NEWS BUT... 

message: It was never mentioned a track called Party Control. I'm going to remove it and add Untitled. Because it just said I'm doing a track with Timbaland, Justin Timberlake & Nelly Furtado.
---Piazzajordan2 02:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Party Control

message: 2 Special bonus tracks if you buy the CD through them....lets pray these two bonus tracks are good enough to save the album...
*crosses fingers for Eat You Alive and or Staring At The World/Dinnertime/Beat The Block--63.228.115.28 (talk) 14:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Itunes Bonus Tracks

message: 1. 3 Peat [produced By Cool & Dre]
2. Mr. Carter (feat. Jay-z) [produced By Just Blaze]
3. A Milli [produced By Bangladesh]
4. Gotta Stunt [produced By The Runners]
5. Got Money (feat. T-pain) [produced By Play-n-skillz]
6. Dinnertime [produced By Deezle]
7. Comfortable (feat. Babyface) [produced By Kanye West]
8. Phone Home [produced By David Banner]
9. Dr. Carter [produced By Swizz Beatz]
10. Tie My Hands (feat. Robin Thicke) [produced By Kanye West]
11. Shoot Me Down [produced By Kanye West]
12. Playin' With Fire [produced By Streetrunner]
13. Lollipop (feat. Static Major) [produced By Jim Jonsin & Deezle]
14. La La (feat. Brisco & Busta Rhymes) [produced By David Banner]
15. Beat The Block [produced By Bangladesh]
16. Mrs. Officer (feat. Bobby Valentino) [produced By Wyclef Jean]
17. Nothin' On Me (feat. Juelz Santana & Fabolous) [produced By Alchemist]
18. Let The Beat Build [produced By Kanye West & Deezle]
19. Don't Get It [produced By Will.i.am]
20. Eat You Alive (feat. Ludacris) [produced By Just Blaze]
21. Staring At The World [produced By Maestro]
**. A Milli (young Money Remix) (feat. Tyga, Hurricane Chris, Lil' Mama, Cory Gunz & Lil' Chuckee)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Straight Face (talk • contribs) 03:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: OFFICIAL TRACKLIST!!!

message: According to Maestro:
COOL AND DRE DID NOT PRODUCE 3 PEAT!!! I DID!!!! hahaha, and for the record, 3 peat was done BEFORE i'm me, but wayne wanted to save it for the album, so he put 'i'm me" and my other song 'kush' on the leak album, which btw is gonna be sold along with the carter as a special edition.
Basically, i can tell you that this list is WAAAY off as far as content and producer credits. Last i heard, just blaze wasnt on the album at all. And #21 was a song i did for currency. A cat named D. Smith wrote and produced 'shoot me down" and 'phone home' is by cool & dre. If those things are wrong, i can only imagine how much else is effed up, lol
No link... unless you are Maestro which I am doubting.
Get a link. ThabigQ (talk) 17:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nevermind It's Another Fake

message: Said to be final, looks real also. 
01. 3 Peat (Produced By Cool & Dre)
02. Mr. Carter (Featuring Jay-Z) (Produced By Just Blaze)
03. A Milli (Produced By Bangladesh)
04. Gotta Stunt (Produced By The Runners)
05. Got Money (Featuring T-Pain) (Produced By Play-n-skillz)
06. Dinnertime (Produced By Deezle)
07. Comfortable (Featuring Babyface) (Produced By Kanye West)
08. Phone Home (Produced By David Banner)
09. Dr. Carter (Produced By Swizz Beatz)
10. Tie My Hands (Featuring Robin Thicke) (Produced By Kanye West)
11. Shoot Me Down (Produced By Kanye West)
12. Playin’ With Fire (Produced By Streetrunner)
13. Lollipop (Featuring Static Major) (Produced By Jim Jonsin & Deezle)
14. La La (Featuring Brisco & Busta Rhymes) (Produced By David Banner)
15. Beat The Block (Produced By Bangladesh)
16. Mrs. Officer (Featuring Bobby Valentino) (Produced By Wyclef Jean)
17. Nothin’ On Me (Featuring Juelz Santana & Fabolous) (Produced By Alchemist)
18. Let The Beat Build (Produced By Kanye West & Deezle)
19. Don’t Get It (Produced By Will.i.am)
20. Eat You Alive (Featuring Ludacris) (Produced By Just Blaze)
21. Staring At The World (Produced By Maestro)
22. A Milli (Young Money Remix) (Featuring Tyga, Hurricane Chris, Lil’ Mama, Cory Gunz & Lil’ 
Chuckee) (Bonus Track)
The Carter III hits shelves June 10th.
http://www.defsounds.com/rumors/The_carter_iii_final_tracklist
Again I really hope this is right, but look at the link...
The word RUMORS is in the link.
Is it too hard to get an official tracklist!? ThabigQ (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Odd, everywhere I look I see that Got Money is produced by Play-n-skillz, yet after Wayne's final verse, you can clearly hear him mumble/growl "Deezle." I'm fairly certain that the producer is indeed Deezle, and not Play-n-skillz. Just my opinion, though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 22:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Scratch that, I was thinking of You Ain't Got Nuthin On Me. My mistake. :p
That's a rumor tracklist. Tri-Edge has your proof right there. SE KinG (talk) 03:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Tracklist 

message: BET has been doing Weezy Wednesdays and its running up untill C3 release. He confirmed Got Money.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SHA0LiNZS0LJAHZ (talk • contribs) 21:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Got Money Confirmed 

message: http://nahright.com/news/2008/05/29/somebody-call-a-plumber/
Like straightface said, count the tracklist on the back of the cd... thats 16-17.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThabigQ (talk • contribs) 03:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need to edit the tracklisting again... 

message: The Two Exclusive Itunes Bonus Tracks :).--AndrewTheGod (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know what those are going to be? SE KinG (talk) 03:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lets Not Forget 

message: Make A table for the Cut Tracks and Dont Forget To Add "Gotta Stunt"
I think wayne will probably slap them all together and put out like an official "Post Carter III Mixtape"--AndrewTheGod (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone 

message: i believe that the 16 leaked songs are the ones that going to be on he deluxe edition. the real carter are goin to have the songs that are missing plus some alternatives for got money, 3 peat, dr. carter, mr carter. i think that lil wayne intentionally let this leak on purpose so u gay ass leakers would focus on that. wayne is smart. what u guys need to do is just pre order tha carter III and find out when u get it. supposely that the real carter is goin to have a diferent cover. think about it theres two cds. we probaly just have the deluxe. why the fuck would he put the old leak songs that he already put that out on christmas. "Thats not good business"
You put up a good point, but it has even been announced that the "DJ's" leaked this, and Wayne's pissed. But Comfortable was leaked about a year ago from now, and Nuthin' on Me was leaked awhile ago to but he changed it around. But I don't like the cover neither. I hope he dose something different but I like the message in Don't Get It with Al Sharpton (off-topic). JUNE 10TH.
---Piazzajordan2 04:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deluxe edition and tha carter III 

message: CARTER III Itunes tracklist tomorrow.
AND...add up the times for all the 16 tracks that leaked off the carter III. it adds up to 84min and something seconds. that exceeds what they are saying is on Disc one.
CARTER III TRACKLIST. TOMORROW.--AndrewTheGod (talk) 17:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something to think about 

message: Track Listing for first disc is wrong, last track is mistitled and its missing one track, all correct track listing information is on amazon.com as the citation for the current track listing is (leaving me confused as to why its wrong but whateever).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.186.122.171 (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Listing 

message: People, the current tracklisitng is incorrect, Itunes has not released an offical tracklisting. So until itunes release an official tracklisitng, it would be smart to take down the current one as it is not official. Trimy67 (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracklisitng 

message: Just Blaze produced Mr. Carter with Weezy and Hov' which makes this track THAT much special. Not this other clown.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gennwsx09 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just Blaze produced "Mr. Carter" 

message: Why is the current tracklist not the real one? It perfectly matches the one on the leaked image and its the only tracklist from store sites that has previews for each song. So why not?--Lilboogie (talk) 10:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not? 

message: Someone should make a wiki for it. according to iTunes it's the fourth single.
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=281436846&s=143441  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.200.35 (talk) 14:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I absoloutely agree; I actually said the same thing somewhere up this page. He clearly growls "Deezle."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 21:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  You Ain't Got Nuthin' 

message: After lil waynes second verse I heard another verse done by someone else that isnt bobby valentino or lil wayne. Also is it going to be a single because on bobby valentinos page under featured singles it says Mrs. Officer.
:It's just Bobby Valentino talking.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 19:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs. Officer 

message: It was leaked and all the other times it was leaked it was delayed. A while back someone had posted on tha carter III page that it was going to be delayed but it was taken off.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.229.13 (talk) 20:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the carter 3 going to be delayed 

message: Why does it say officially leaked june 4th when it was leaked may 30th-31st  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.229.13 (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaked 

message: How do we know its on the album? 71.205.35.35 (talk) 15:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Girl Gone Bad....? 

message: In shoot me down he says "d (as in deezle) bring the drums back". So doesnt that mean he helped produce the track  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.229.13 (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shoot me down 

message: Urb.com  Gives tha carter 3 a 4.5 out of 5 http://www.urb.com/reviews/cd/feature.php?ReviewId=671
HHNLive.con Gives Carter 3 4.5 out five http://www.hhnlive.com/reviews/more/201
Exclusive Revolution Gives Carter 3 4 stars out of five http://exclusiverevolution.com/?p=90
Writer Block Media Gives Carter 3 4 out of 5 http://writersblockmedia.net/2008/06/02/res-tha-carter-iii-review/
Rolling stone has given it a 4.5 out of 5 http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/21080575/review/21127308/tha_carter_iii?source=album_reviews_rssfeed
Los Angeles times gives it  a 3 out of 4  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnArriola (talk • contribs) 21:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Can someone put these Professional Reviews on Tha Carter 3 article?

message: http://www.musicane.com/splash/main/Lil+Wayne/Tha+Carter+III ... look at the last track on the site, "Don't Get It."  Isn't this an official Universal Records site? Lil Wayne released the rights to musicane so people could pay for a digital download of the Carter III, so I think this is legit.  Just curious about the last track ...
To get to it, just hit the "play" button on the album cover and scroll to the bottom. Also, x off the countdown thing ...
I dont get what your asking.--AndrewTheGod (talk) 03:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracklisting Curveball? 

message: I have the REAL CD and I can tell you all right now Kanye aint produce "Tie My Hands" Robin Thicke did nor did he produce "Shoot Me Down" D. Smith did. will.i.am aint produce "DontGetIt" some guys named Rodnae and Mousa did. Wyclef aint produce "Mrs. Officer" Deezle did. "Mr. Carter" was produced by Andrews "Drew" Correa and Infamous. STOP CHANGING THE PRODUCERS!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Straight Face (talk • contribs) 06:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Straight Face, if you want to rant and act like a child, it's up to you. You should know that the production credits will continue to be changed until you provide a ref. Besides, the CD drops tomorrow. Once it does, reliable references will be all over the web. It's nothing to get upset about; you should just relax.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 17:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  STOP CHANGING THE PRODUCTION CREDITS 

message: Will there be any UK bonus tracks? Because I heard a rumor that the song originally known as "Lights, Camera, Action", or "Showtime" will be a bonus track and it won't feature anyone and will be called "Action". The song samples I'm So Hood by DJ Khaled. SE KinG (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK Bonus Tracks? 

message: I think somebody should add "Kidd Kidd from Squad Up" as a feature on Mrs. Officer on the Carter 3 Tracklist. I mean he is not noted on the back cover on the CD but he is rapping on the third verse. If you dont believe me listen to the CD again, he raps on the third verse and clearly says: "My Name Is Kidd Kidd". And i know that Kidd Kidd is from Squad Up, they were once signed to Young Money. So, if somebody could do that then that would be appreciated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.50.177 (talk) 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs. Officer Features! 

message: Should we remove the "Collaborators" section since the album got released?
--Piazzajordan2 03:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaborators Section

message: Last night when I listened to some pretty nasty things in the final song that were said about Al Sharpton. Does anyone no why these things were said and has Al Sharpton taken the comments seriously?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.37.115 (talk) 23:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, i added that in the here, a few weeks ago when I first heard the track, he will probably respond later i honestly don't care. But yeah, you put up an interesting point there.
--Piazzajordan2 02:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al Sharpton controversy 

message: >> "Let the Beat Build"
Drums by longtime Wayne producer/engineer Deezle, ethereal soul sample by Kanye West. Structured something like Coldplay's "The Scientist," which is to say we start with nothing but melody for about 8 bars, and then 808 drum sounds are introduced glacially: high hats for four bars, high hats and snares for the next four, and so on, so that the song revs up in an excitingly disjointed, slow motion way.
-Blender's Review
It says it samples the Coldplay track. 
You can read it there too.
--Piazzajordan2 14:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Let the Beat Build's Samples

message: I would put this on the main page but I know u freaks would delete it because I don't know how to cite it.  But on this website,
http://www.accessatlanta.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/accessatlanta/MusicScene/entries/2008/06/13/lil_wayne_surpassing_big_usher.html 
It says it sold 423,000 copies in the first day.  I think that should be on this page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil' Rad (talk • contribs) 17:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Sales 

message: I think we should just keep Lollipop and Got Money on there. You Ain't Got Nuthin was just a teezer track. Mr. Carter will probably never be a single, (think Jay and Wayne in a video, too expensive). I just think Lollipop and Got Money should stay on there. A Milli is an old song to me, and probably to everyone else to me.
--Piazzajordan2 18:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As my most recent edit summary notes... "Per Universal Records, there have been no OFFICIAL single releases, other than the two noted here (Lollipop and Got Money)."  A Milli is a record that mixers and selected programmers have chosen to play, to this point.  It has not been officially serviced to radio for adds yet.  --InDeBiz1 (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Also, I will say just if has charted anywhere, or has been released to iTunes dose not mean it is official. Have you ever went to Wal Mart or K-Mart and saw them sell A Milli or Got Money, i've seen Lollipop there. I think as GhNike034 said the only single listed should be Lollipop.
--Piazzajordan2 00:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, both Lollipop and Got Money are official singles right now.  Lollipop was the lead, obviously, and Got Money went for radio adds toward the end of May..  I want to say the 27th?  Trust me on this one...  This is what I do for a living, programming a CHR/Rhythmic radio station.  There are two official singles out there right now.  --InDeBiz1 (talk) 18:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Understandable, I was just pointing out something he had stated on television the day of the cd's release. As well as to state that there definitely are not 5 singles. GhNike034 (talk) 21:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: We HAVE to do something about all these singles

message: Should we add that in there? http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=2700
--Piazzajordan2 19:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Diddy calls it a classic

message: I give this article the most discussed page on Wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.250.4 (talk) 05:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  REWARD 

message: This page has two links that contradict each other The first is for U.S. Sales which says The Carter has sold 1,316,000 copies, while the United world Chart link says the album has sold 1,046,000 copies worldwide, how can his worldwide sales be less then his U.S. sales (United world chart counts U.S. billboard sales) I'm going to change the figure seeing as the source for the latter is more credible. PhoenixPrince (talk) 08:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Album Sales sources 

message: links for the booklet scans: 
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6545/00lilwaynethacarteriii2is3.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/53/00lilwaynethacarteriii2ew3.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6456/00lilwaynethacarteriii2gv4.jpg
--Shadyaftrmathgunit (talk) 13:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits from the booklet 

message: "day by day"  is the title of the song by Eddie Kendricks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.112.234 (talk) 23:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I listened to that on iTunes, the beat is sorta similar but I posted something earlier on here talking about the Coldplay sample.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 01:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Coldplay wasn't sampled. :| They were just talking about how the song structure is similar.  LegendaryXM90 (talk) 21:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Nah, not all of 'em. Tracks like 3 Peat, Got Money, and Lollipop don't have samples. Funny that you say that, because You Ain't Got Nuthin' is the biggest sample of all. It sampled a whole half of a song. XD (Gangsta Walk by Fab and Cassidy) Oh BTW, thanks for telling us the sample Lilboogie. I just downloaded the song, and slapped it in Audacity, cut it up, and I have my very own Let The Beat Build. :P Without the drums of course. XD LegendaryXM90 (talk) 21:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Doesn't Phone Home sample ET?
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) (Hows my editing?) 01:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Gangsta Walk came out way before You Ain't Got Nuthin'. :| LegendaryXM90 (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  sampled in let the beat build 

message: The exact number that the Carter III has sold worldwide is 1794000 [],[],[],[]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.95.231.66 (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carter III sales 

message: I got C3 the day it came out and it did not list "Mrs. Officer", "Let the Beat Build" and "Playing with Fire" on the back tracklisting and someone on her (i forgot who) posted the album credits and it had those 3 tracks on it and the version i bought i had a little slip with those tracks. Does anyone know if the later copies did not list that?
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) (Hows my editing?) 21:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 3 bonus tracks

message: Somebody needs to find a source for it, and add it in the box.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 20:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Still. Someone needs to find it.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 01:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Source rating

message: This is highly messed up. How the hell is it a single, let alone the 4th, when it doesn't even have like ... COVER ART yet or anything? If anything, it should be the SIXTH single after Mr. Carter (4th) and You Ain't Got Nuthin (5th), both of which DO have cover art and have already been released as digital downloads on iTunes.
Someone needs to provide some background info.  LegendaryXM90 (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was already mentioned that it's gonna be Wayne's 4th single. Iwas the one who put up the single, according to this source: Lil Wayne's Next Single Announced As "Mrs. Officer". Strangely, the source I got the information from mentions "Lollipop" and "A Milli" as the album's singles. However, we know that "Got Money" is the album's 3rd single. Anyway, "Mr. Carter" and "You Ain't Got Nothing" are just iTunes singles to promote the album, no official singles for the album. They did, however, receive radio play. Like the "Lollipop Remix", it did also get radio play but it's not a single either. Debate all you want but unless you can provide sources claiming "Mr. Carter" and "You Ain't Nothing" are official singles, "Mrs. Officer" is the album's 4th single. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 21:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Take a look at this. Songs that have charted because of radio play. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 01:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I always hear it on the radio (WPGC 93.9 in DC), it is on their countdowns and everything.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 01:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs. Officer is the ... wtf FOURTH single? 

message: The sample used is Holy Thursday, also by David Axelrod. The Smile is not the sample. Listen to the two songs. Holy Thursday is the exact track you hear in the background of Dr. Carter. It is virtually unchanged. Please stop changing it. LegendaryXM90 (talk) 18:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfect.--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 07:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Okay, I said that the sample info was misspelled, I think it's fine. Daniil Maslyuk (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, that works. LegendaryXM90 (talk) 20:00, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Carter Sample AGAIN 

message: I strongly urge all editors on this page to review the talk page guidelines.  There have been numerous threads on this page detailing where one can go to download certain tracks, which is a violation of Wikipedia policies ("Wikipedia is not file-sharing website").  Also, there have been numerous threads that have started as / turned into nothing more than a discussion of editors' personal feelings about the album, rather than a discussion on how the article may be improved ("Wikipedia is not a fan site").  Please keep any further discussion on-topic to this page's purpose, which is a place to discuss improvements to the article.  Winger84 (talk) 21:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk page guidelines 

message: Under the "Track listing" section, track 12:
"Lollipop" (featuirng Static Major)
Should read:
"Lollipop" (featuring Static Major)
--Jroy5 (talk) 02:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 03:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling error 

message: I think we should make an article for each song on the album.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 02:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why's that? --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 02:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Being a "classic" (=POV) is not a good reason why we should have an article for every song of this album. If all these songs were to meet our policy for notability of songs, then yes, we could do that. By the way, most of the songs from Illmatic should not have a separate article, rather be merged back to Illmatic. By the way, Tha Carter III is miles away from being a classic, at least to me. Even I can come up with lines like "Fly in da beetle-juice beetle-juice beetle-juice", "Cause I'm colder than y'all/But I will never I will never I will never fall" or "I suck a pussy fuck a pussy/Leave it well" (from Mr. Carter). Do U(knome)? yes...or no 04:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Tomorrow I am going to make articles for "3 Peat" and "Playing with Fire".
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 04:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please remember that these need to be notable under WP:MUSIC#Songs. No offense, but if they are not… Do U(knome)? yes...or no 05:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Neither song is notable, per policy.  Tagged for PROD.  --Winger84 (talk) 15:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What I Think..

message: Did he?
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 19:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you know?
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 02:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Did David Banner produce Lisa Marie

message: With a camera phone pic. It took a while.
--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 01:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: I added The Source rating