Talk:Pierre Trudeau

message: There is nothing on this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.36.68 (talk) 22:42, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trudeaus studies abroad 

message: There has been edit-warring to add an unflattering image of Trudeau instead of the stable one. I find the proposed new image technically inferior and unflattering. It looks as if Trudeau has one finger at his nose disrupting the visual flow of his face. Comments are welcome. Thank you. Dr. K. 07:19, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The proposed picture definitely looks more austere and flattering. However, the proposed picture has the face at roughly a 3/4 profile and  has the finger in the front blocking parts of his face, making it technically inferior and of less encyclopedic value. The current picture, while less serious, is of higher encyclopedic value because it shows the entire face without obstruction.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 10:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reason the change the original picture.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit-warring to add an unflattering image of Trudeau 

message: Today there has been a series of edits that have been reverted by at least three of us, about economics and multiculturalism.  I encouraged the user, on his/her talk page , making these edits to discuss them here.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring about multiculturalism, economics etc 

message: Hi Folks, I have been trying to add a section entitled "Economy", which is truthful but frankly unflattering, to Pierre Trudeau. The content is as follows:
On the economic front, Trudeau did far more damages to his country than he was willing to recognize. His economic policies were proven disastrous. As an unfortunately consequence of his 15-year ruthless reign, the economy of Canada was at the edge of collapse in 1984, when his liberal government was replaced by the Conservatives. As an illustrative example, the annual inflation rate of Canada increased quickly and steadily from 4.06% when Trudeau took office in 1968 to 10.97% in 1974 and peaked at 12.47% in 1981, a record that has never been neared in Canada's history ever since. [1] Likewise, the annual unemployment rate of Canada was around 4% when Pierre took office in 1968. This number doubled up to 8% in 1978 and peaked at 12% in 1982. The highest monthly unemployment rate of 13.1% was also inked into Canadian history by Pierre Trudeau in December 1982.[2]  
However, despite of all my labors, the edits were always reverted without explanation. 
[1] http://www.inflation.eu/inflation-rates/canada/historic-inflation/cpi-inflation-canada.aspx
[2] http://www.davemanuel.com/historical-unemployment-rates-in-canada.php
Well, if you think my descriptions are not factual, let's talk.
:Thank you for coming to the talk page.  Neither of those references mention PM Trudeau.  You are engaging in WP:OR.  The reverts of your edits were explained in the edit summaries and you can see that if you look at the history of the edits to the page.  Wikipedia has a number of policies, you should check them out.  A welcome message was left on your talk page, it is full of useful links.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your interpretation of data, or mine, is irrelevant, it is WP:OR.  That is what you are doing with this edit .  Please revert it.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 20:40, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

text: The sources do not mention Trudeau.  You are interpreting data, we don't do that.  We rely on WP:SECONDARY sources to do that.  Your edit is akin to saying  'It is also worth noting that when Trudeau took power in 1968 the Toronto Maple Leafs were the Stanley Cup champions.  After that Toronto never won again and Montreal won 6 Cups.'  Dbrodbeck (talk) 20:55, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

text: I agree with . Collecting data from WP:PRIMARYSOURCES and presenting it with your own comments and interpretation is synthesis and original research. Dr. K. 21:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: One basic problem is the highly politicized assumption that "Trudeau did far more damage" -- businesses raise prices and he gets the blame? Business lays off workers and he gets the blame? that's low-grade POV and shows an attitude we don't tolerate: using Wikipedia to score attacks on "ruthless" politicians we don't like.   Rjensen (talk) 16:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy and Multiculturalism 

message: New book: Trudeaumania by Paul Litt, 2016, University of British Columbia Press. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 16:05, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book 

message: In the section on the October Crisis Pierre Laporte was refer to as Quebec Labour Minister. He was also the Deputy Premier of Quebec and should be refer to as such.218.214.52.68 (talk) 03:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quebec Deputy Premier Pierre Laporte 

message: For those of you who know no French, I would like to point out that Pierre Trudeau's initials, which were sometimes used in the press, are almost certainly meant as an insult, especially in the French-language press, spelling as they do the French word for "fart". Take a look. Perhaps this should be noted in the article. Kelisi (talk) 21:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  <PET 

message: I had changed the heading title of "Minister of Justice and leadership candidate" to "Attorney General and leadership candidate".
However this got reverted by Mr Serjeant Buzfuz with this reason:‎  ""Minister of Justice" is the main title for the position. The Minister of Justice is ex officio the Attorney General. Should use main title in the sub-heading."
As a compromise I then changed it to "Minister of Justice and Attorney General and leadership candidate".
While I do not dispute the Justice Minister is ex officio the Attorney General, not every reader in particular non-Canadians may know that.
Not to mention Attorney General sounds more prestigious than Justice Minister.
After all the Canadian Attorney General is in proximity to the US Attorney General. 49.3.72.79 (talk) 06:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minister of Justice and Attorney General and leadership candidate 

message: Well, then, I guess the most productive thing would be to start with the things you personally dislike, . I know next to nothing about Canadian politics and came here because I coincidentally saw a talk page note; to my very uninvolved (and not specifically informed) eyes, there is nothing wildly objectionable in the edits that were reverted, certainly not to a degree that an outsider to the topic area should be expected to get it without further elaboration. So please, elaborate. AngryHarpytalk 07:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: User:AngryHarpy everyone should follow WP:BRD. The edits were in good faith, but they weren't constructive (with the exception of the citation edits). I will try to reinstate his edits on the references/citations tomorrow. Also please specify how you found the "talk page note". Ak-eater06 (talk)  08:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it by virtue of having my very own watchlist, but it doesn't really matter. I was only confused by the invocation of BRD, as I don't really get the "bold" part in basic c/e and ref maintenance (and corrections such as World War 1 -> World War I and McClelland and Stewart -> McClelland & Stewart are things you very much ought to feel silly for reverting outright). Anyway, I don't really have the leisure or expertise to look at this in any more detail right now, so do carry on. AngryHarpytalk 13:32, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed edits 

message: It appears that the Death section is experiencing content creep with information irrelevant to the topic of Pierre Trudeau's death. I propose that the following content be removed. Not only is it irrelevant, but it is redundant due to its coverage earlier in the article. "Eventually, Justin did enter politics, was elected to the House of Commons in late 2008, became the leader of the federal Liberal Party in April 2013, and led the Liberals to victory on October 19, 2015. Justin Trudeau was appointed prime minister on November 4, 2015,[164] the first time a father and son had both held the position in Canada." WP:CREEPSWritethisway (talk) 04:16, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Instant Comma (talk) 21:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death  

message: I think we should have more info on his recreational activities. He presented himself as an outdoorsman.... a hearty "True Canadian" to be trusted if you will. So much so that there's a documentary and a few books written about just his outdoor activities. His son and current prime minister actually followed in his footsteps .... in my view as a  media hype thing but..... canoeing the same route. The family is famous for their outdoor activities.....so much so that one of his sons  died  doing an outdoor activitie.
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Moxy- 23:10, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canoeing 

message: Instead of reading "Liberal (1965–2000)" Trudeau's party affiliation should read "Liberal (from 1965)". This is in line with articles for numerous other politicians, and provides more clarity to the reader. The current text can imply Trudeau left the party in 2000, when he actually just died.
Considering how much of a small, common-sense change this is, I really did not think it would require discussion to be implemented, but I guess some editors disagree. Loytra (talk) 03:24, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political party in infobox 

message: Vincent Massey has his as CH, CC. Is there a reason for the difference? 99.228.43.228 (talk) 17:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-nominal CC, CH