Talk:Voiced palatal fricative

message: I'm aware that some speakers consider this sound interchangeable with the voiced palatal approximant [j].  On the whole, though, how many Swedes would associate that substitution with dialects or foreign accents?  ISNorden 00:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am a native speaker of Norwegian rather than Swedish, but I have a hard time associating Swedish "jord" with the voiced palatal fricative. Even the article on Swedish phonology gives the same example as "jord: /juːrd/", and the pronunciation sample provided is also using [j]. It does NOT match e.g. Dutch 'goed'. I can't comment on dialects, but to my ears, this just doesn't match for standard Swedish 'jord'. Stian (talk) 13:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish usage question 

message: "In only four of the languages (Komi, Margi, Belgian Standard Dutch,[1] Modern Greek) this sound occurs along with its voiceless counterpart." I cannot imagine what the source of this statement can be, there is no voiced or voiceless palatal fricative in Komi, just check the linked article on Komi language...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.135.104.167 (talk) 08:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There were also several other problems with that statement. I have tried to correct it. --JorisvS (talk) 15:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Komi messup 

message: We can link directly to it right here . No way to put it down to the relevant serch results, however. Citable?
Also, the current percentage seems to be 12/451 which is a little higher (2.2% vs. 2.7%).
--Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 13:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  UPSID 

message: Direct link to file: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Nl-goed_%28Belgium%29.ogg
I suggest removing it from this page.
—Lfdder (talk) 15:27, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio for goed [ʝut] sounds like [xut] 

message: I'm German native speaker and I clearly use the voiced palatal fricative. Maybe it's just my dialect (Western Ruhr-German/ Rhinelandic), can anybody say something about that?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.253.119.238 (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Mr KEBAB (talk) 22:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  German usage? 

message: Unfortunately this article and most others on IPA symbols are useless and frustrating for most normal users. People without training in linguistics don't understand the description in the "features" section. What almost all people need is a simple explanation of the difference between ʝ and j, and the article provides no information on this, not even a link to j. --Espoo (talk) 17:03, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: is  pronounced with more force. Peter238 (talk) 17:08, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  unhelpful article  

message: The order of the alina needs to be altered to make the text chronologically correct to my last change about the post-palatal fricative mentioning. Thingy is that my edit somehow resulted in a removal of the text, so I undid the change. This does mean that the alinia altering still needs to be done at some point.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.85.146.183 (talk) 20:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alinia question 

message: The audio file is almost the same as the palatal approximant's audio file Blockman9000 (talk) 14:35, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong audio file 

message: The examples of the Dutch "gaan" and the German "rieze" have quite literally nothing in common. The way you pronounce the "g" and "r" are just different phonemes. Also, standard Dutch doesn't cover phonology. Depending on where you are, the "g" in "gaan" can be pronounced differently (also in Belgium).
Belgian should also be changed to the appropriate dialects (these are significant in this case), or at the very least be Belgian Dutch, as Belgian is not a language nor a dialect.
"Southern Accents" is again to broad as it isn't always pronounced ɣ̟. And at least specify that it's the southern Netherlands, Belgium is also located in the south... 2A02:1810:2820:B500:31EF:3565:1710:3EC1 (talk) 00:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huge mix-up in the examples (native Dutch/German view)