Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Stargate task force/Archive 4

message: I'm registered for AutoWikiBrowser, so if any of you have a certain Find and Replace you'd like done to a large list of Stargate articles, let me know and I'll be happy to run it through.-- Alfakim --  talk  10:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stargate article Find and Replace

message: What's the current status of the episode articles?  If there are some still needing work, do we need a list with the status of each article so people know where to work? --Tango 15:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the best if you look into the category Stargate stubs. There you will find all the episode articles which need a longer Plot. Look at the episode articles which are already done to see how long a Plot summary should be. A good example is It's Good to Be King (Stargate SG-1). Also you can add some notes, quotes and external links to every episode (if there is anything to add). I think it's also good to look through all episodes, something I do from time to time. Diabound00 16:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well... they've been referenced... all of the ones that have aired have at least one transcript linked... a number of them have summaries and reviews linked... a few of them have other things linked... and the ones that haven't aired have spoilers linked. They could perhaps use additional references, such as from more offical sites. GateWorld does have spoilers for a two-part Stargate Atlantis episode (The Return) which I didn't see an article for. And I don't see any episode articles for Stargate Infinity, just a list w/ redlinks. And there are two Stargate Atlantis episode articles that need to be deleted (due to copyvios), and have the temp pages moved to their present locations (which requires an admin). Also, most of them don't say they're part of Wikiproject Stargate on their talk pages. Armedblowfish 02:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikiproject Stargate thingy on each talk page is important, but Stargate Infinity is not only a joke, it's a joke which I doubt anybody on this project ever actually watched (it being a kid's show). LD 02:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't know. I'm mainly concerned about the references. So if you do create articles on them, either add external links or ask me to do so. Armedblowfish 08:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Lol... I watched 1 episode of Infinity just to see. It's something we should look into only after the rest of the wikiproject is basicalyl complete. No one liked infinity, not even the kids. not even the producers. -- Alfakim --  talk  19:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, is there an already existing system for spoiler tags of multiple seasons?  I've done one in Hathor (Stargate) by substing it and altering it appropriately - is there a better way? --Tango 16:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sort of.  allows you to make an aside about spoilers for other (multiple) seasons. See The Enemy Within (Stargate SG-1) for an example.-- Alfakim --  talk  23:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Useful to know, but doesn't help in writing about a 2-part story that was split over 2 series (last of one, first of the next).  I could separate the plot into the 2 parts, but I think the home-made spoiler tag I put there is better, if another method doesn't exist.  I might look at the templates and see if there's a way of making a template to do it automatically, but it's a whole load of nested templates which would probably get very confusing... --Tango 10:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Guide 

message: Please see Template_talk:Spoiler#CSS_class_good_solution_to_complaints for a solution. Armedblowfish 14:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was unaware this was taking place. Could you point out places where it's been used so we can remove it? -- Alfakim --  talk  23:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember where it was before, but I know it occurred on Daedalus-class battlecruiser; I removed it. LD 23:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I left a message on Alyeska's talk page, he seems to be the one doing it.  I'm trying to find out why... American Patriot 1776 00:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow. It's not that big a deal. Alyeska probably wasn't aware of the policy when he or she made the text white. And no permanent damage to Wikipedia was done. We don't want to frighten away potential contributors just because they make little mistakes. Armedblowfish 14:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of white text to hide spoilers 

message: While we're on the topic of style, I've seen a lot of CSS breakage on different Stargate articles, where text is overlapping. Note that this can be dependent on browser and window size, and can actually be hard to fix. It tends to involve templates and other text-boxes. Armedblowfish 04:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give an example of a page and browser combination that has a problem? --Tango 10:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hathor (Stargate). The character infobox and the recurring characters template overlap. I'm using Firefox. 1.0.6 on OpenBSD to be exact, though I have also the same sort of trouble on Windows and with other versions of Firefox. Would you like me to add the articles to some sort of category when I notice in the future? Armedblowfish 14:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I see it too.  I noticed it on Athos when I added the infobox, it seems the infoboxes aren't taken into account when deciding where to place things lower down... I'll see if I can spot anything that could be causing it, but I'm hardly a template expert... Wish me luck! --Tango 15:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is one of the weaknesses of CSS. Good luck! Armedblowfish 15:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, not quite the solution I wanted, but certainly an improvement: User:Tango/Hathor.  I've removed the "width=100%" part (on a copy of) the recurring chars template, and it seems to work quite well.  The template still fills the whole width if there is nothing in way, but stops short if there is.  I would have prefered to simply have it lower down, but I haven't worked out how to do that yet - I think it might be a problem with the infobox, rather than the recurring chars template.  I'll keep trying, but I think I've found a good solution for now - shall I go through and change the real templates, now? --Tango 15:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't even see anything worth fiddling with on the infobox template, so removing the width thing is the only option I can see.  I'll do it later this evening (UTC) if no-one has suggested anything else. --Tango 15:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't. that template still fills 100% width because of its contents - it wont work on other templates. there is a much better solution. On all the templates like , simply add the CSS style="clear: both;" into the style element of the table on those templates. This will be the only change needed to fix all of these problems. If you're not sure how to do this leave it to me, but I can't act immediately, give me a week so i can finish my exams! -- Alfakim --  talk  16:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Example here:  -- Alfakim --  talk  16:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Ah! Someone that actually knows CSS, excellent.  Thankyou! I'll add it to the rest of the templates. --Tango 16:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done all the ones on the project page, I think that's all of them.  It seems to work.  Now I'll go and find a CSS tutorial or something and find out what "clear:both" actually means... Thanks, again!! --Tango 16:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This W3C page happens to explain the clear attribute. If you want a beginner's CSS tutorial, try looking at this page. Armedblowfish 19:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: CSS breakage

message: I was adding additional ciations to DNA Resequencer and when I saved it the refs were really screwed up.  I tried to fix them for an hour but couldn't figure out how.  could someone please take a look?  Tobyk777 04:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've fixed it.  You missed a / in one of the ref tags - easilly done and almost impossible to spot, I got lucky! --Tango 11:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What we need is a wiki-validator, sort of like W3C's HTML Validation Service. By the way, DNA Resequencer is apparently invalid HTML, because of the CSS. (Basically, using IDs when CLASSes should be used.) Armedblowfish 11:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why/where is there extra CSS in DNA Resequencer? using an ID more than once can cause serious problems for some browsers. -- Alfakim --  talk  13:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The spoiler warnings. According to W3C, there are 4 errors. See validation results. (So it probably affects a lot of articles.) Armedblowfish 13:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I've brought this up on Template talk:Spoiler, because the page is protected, so I can't fix it myself. Armedblowfish 13:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help!!!

message: This is a widespread problem. People are assuming that episode citations refer to Stargate SG-1, when there is no reason for this bias (especially not when we're meant to be WP:NPOV). If making a citation within a paragraph use this format:
:Then the Ori said, "Hello!" (1: Origin).
:or:  Then in the episode "Origin" (SG-1), the Ori said "Hello!".
:or:  Then in the SG-1 episode "Origin", the Ori said "Hello!".
Do not use: "In the episode "Origin" the Ori said hello." This is to assume SG-1, which is wrong and uninformative.
A better way of doing things is to avoid episode citations of this form entirely. Favour inline <ref>erences so that a full citation is linked but doesn't interrupt the paragraph. -- Alfakim --  talk  11:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In a lot of cases it's obvious that it refers to SG-1.  For example, in a character article the first line says "is a fictional character from Stargate SG-1", so it's reasonable to assume that all episodes refer to SG-1.  Same applies to Atlantis articles.  It's only in articles that could reasonably refer to more than one series that you need to be careful.  Whether you should use "In "XYZ"..." or refs depends on how it's written - if you're doing a plot summary of a characters activities it's best to state the episode in the article.  Also, stating the episodes more obviously helps stop people complaining that we're writing from an "in-universe perspective".  For that reason, I think we should place the citations in the main text as much as possible. --Tango 12:21, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Style aside, you're quite right that this is not needed when it's obvious. Sometimes however it's not, and in neutral articles, e.g. Stargate (device) all episode citations should be marked with their show name. -- Alfakim --  talk  13:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't seen all of the articles. However, it seems to me, like, generally, when the episode in cited in the main text, SG-1 vs. Atlantis is not specified. When they are cited below (either using inline references or by putting the episode in a list), SG-1 vs. Atlantis generally is specified. I don't really have an opinion on this (as you know I am more concerned with linking to transcripts), but if you intend to fix all of the articles, then you have a lot of work to do. Or maybe Auto Wiki Browser will help. Anyways, when I become less busy and get back to citing Stargate articles (I'm currently doing characters), I will be adding "Episodes" sections at the bottom for many of the articles, so that should help. Though I am only doing this in articles where someone has bothered to mention supporting episodes in the text. (See the characters that are earlier in the alphabet. Not the ones in the sub-categories, which I haven't gotten to yet.) Armedblowfish 02:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's good, because I've been going through (rather slowly and in no organised fashion - maybe after exams I'll do a better job) and adding the episodes to the text, but not making episode lists. --Tango 09:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Maybe when I finish, I'll look through them again to see if there's anything you got to after I did. You know, some of these could really be converted to inline referencing. But I'm too lazy to bother with that for shorter articles, and the GateWorld and StargateWiki character descriptions and biographies are sort of whole-article references. Armedblowfish 11:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  citing episodes - important 

message: allows you to specify a spoiler for a certain season of Stargate. If your spoiler covers more than one season, you have 3 options:
#Consider making it into an aside if the text is short. Use  and see "The Enemy Within" for an example.
#Split your spoiler into two parts, then use two calls of , one for each season spoiled followed by that spoiler.
#Favoured: set your spoiler tag to the highest number season that is spoiled. When something is a season 8 spoiler we assume (because one should watch a story in chronological order) that it is also a Season 1-7 spoiler (like being told the end of a film is a spoiler no matter where you are before that point). So if you're spoiling seasons 2 and 3, set your spoiler template for season 3 as this covers both. -- Alfakim --  talk  11:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moreover, this seems like fancruft. If someone is interested in more details, he/she can have a look at the corresponding article so the template is not necessary. I am thinking of nominating this template for deletion unless you convince me otherwise. -Tone 13:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fancruft? Tbh I dont object to a deletion in principle, but i also see it as a useful template. Sometimes there is relevent information which is too small to be spoiled by a big tag, but also too relevent to not include. I see a theoretical use for it at least. -- Alfakim --  talk  23:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text:  I think the information could be mentioned in the trivia section instead. I let you the decision whether to nominate it for deletion or not. --Tone 08:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  about spoiler templates 

message: I forgot to mention - I put Astrogate up for AfD.  It's just a stub about a non-notable stargate forum. --Tango 16:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: List listings here: WikiProject Stargate/Nominations -- Alfakim --  talk  23:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's deleted now. --Tango 11:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD 

message: ::That's the race template.  There is often a one-to-one relationship between planets and races, but not always.  I think we should have a specific infobox for planets that don't have an associated race - and we should add gate addresses to the homeworlds on the race template where known.  Also, I think all the infoboxes (excluding regular characters and major recurring characters) should have episode lists.  I can go through and compile the lists if people agree. --Tango 14:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by episode lists? How do infoboxes for races have episodes? and (i assume you mean a "related episodes" section) - wont this be ridiculously extensive for some races? tau'ri? ARTICLES should have "related episodes" sections. -- Alfakim --  talk  18:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I mean episodes they turn up in.  Yes, major races would be like regular characters (which I already mentioned) and would need to have at most the first and major episodes only.  Something like the Tollan, though, would have about 3 or 4 episodes, which would be useful to list in a clearer and more consistant way than just mentioning them in the article.  Knowing what episodes certain things turned up in is something I can imagine people coming to wikipedia specifically to find out, so the information should be easy to find. --Tango 22:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree its useful information. But a consistent "Key Episodes" section is all that's needed at the bottom. Those infoboxes don't need to be any bigger and confusing. -- Alfakim --  talk  13:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How about we remove some of the useless information (who cares what colour hair some random alien that doesn't actually have hair has?) and replace it with the episode info?  We already have the first appearance, so it's just expanding on that, really.  I think having it in the infobox would be better than having it at the bottom.  It's not extra trivial info that should be mentioned as an aside, it's key information about the character/race/planet so it should be included in an obvious place. --Tango 13:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Enact the following if you agree: remove eye/hair colour. Add optional field "Key episodes" beneath "First appearance" -- Alfakim --  talk  20:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd prefer to have the first appearance as simply one of the key episodes, maybe with "(first appearance)" after it.  There's a gap between each heading, so the box will take up less space and will be more flowing if it's all one section. --Tango 20:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Again, enact if you agree (sorry have little time). remove hair/eyes, add optional "Key episodes" and in the same cell have the  parameter. Lastly, see the talk pages for templates like  to see how to add a hidden message to all templates involving deprecated parameters, so that calls to the removed "hair" and "eye" params are removed. -- Alfakim --  talk  22:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the hair and eyes and gone through and removed it from all the articles on the "What links here" list (so I won't add the hidden message thing).  I'll do the key episodes bit in the next few days. --Tango 00:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do it. -- Alfakim --  talk  02:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think so.  Even if a race is mostly in one siries, most of the time they are at least mentioned in another.  The Goa'uld were in an episode of Atlantis.  SG-1 often mentions the wraith.  The Ancients are in both shows, etc.  I think that the two shows crossover so much that it wouldn't be prudent.  Tobyk777 17:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If they are regularly in both, then the field can say "Both" (or preferably, "SG-1 and Atlantis", as that allows for more series in the future), and each episode can specifically state where it's from.  If it's only one episode of crossover, then the series field can say the main series, and the key eps field can specify that that particular episode is from the other one. Maybe the field should be "Primary Series". --Tango 17:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Episodes for races

message: I created a SG1 userbox awhile back and thought I put it here in case anyone else wanted to use it.GWatson • TALK 21:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't you think that this userbox lacks some colour? It looks a bit plain to me. --Siva1979Talk to me 19:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SG1 Userbox

message: I've been reading through stargate episodes on wikipedia and I dislike being the one to say it, but the writing style of the plots doesn't seem right to me. Most of the writing is styled like this:
'At a rainy night, a man named Dr. Richard Flemming calls Major Carter while driving a car. He tells her that he knows about Adrian Conrad and what happened to her but suddenly there are crashing noises and the connection is terminated. '
Shouldn't it be more authoritative as: 
'The episode opens with a man driving through a rainy night while making a phone call to Major Carter. The man identifies himself as Dr. Richard Flemming and hastily reveals that he knows about Adrian Conrad and about her. He informs Carter that the Symbiote research project was never terminated and asks for her help, but before he can give any more details the call is ended with the sound of a collison and a car skidding out of control.' 
Then a paragraph break, then start on the briefing. It seems to me that writing such as this is more in line with Wikipedia's standards, I don't wish to offend anyone, but I do believe that the writing is not being styled correctly. Biscuit Knight 13:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do like your modification better. However, there are 240 Stargate episode articles (193 SG-1, 47 Atlantis). Maybe focus on premieres, finales, and multi-part episodes? (Of course, if you wish to edit all 240 accordingly, you will probably get a well-deserved barnstar.) Armedblowfish (talk|contribs) 13:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a big project - add it. The project as a whole should work towards this end; i mean, its primary goal IS the episode guide. thanks for pointing this out. -- Alfakim --  talk  21:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay well as you know I'm new to the Stargate Wikiproject, but I'm willing to help out a lot, so I added my name. Am I on the right track with what I'm saying about the formatting? If so I can work my way from Season 1 upwards. I have the seasons 1-8 on DVD, I can and will work on them and I'm going to purchase 9-10 ASAP. I'm willing to re-write all the episodes to be authoritative, but should I be doing this? I don't want to step on toes or cause an edit-war. Biscuit Knight 00:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Changes like the example above would make the articles better written. (For instance, "The episode opens" is a nice touch because it reminds the reader that the events described did not actually happen, and the new version is generally less confusing.) People will probably help, but on their own time (and there's no garantee). How many episodes, and which ones, you want to rewrite is up to you. (I would reccomend against changing all of them. Just adding external links to all of them took a very long time. Unless, of course, this is something you care about enough to devote many long hours to.) Don't worry too much about stepping on toes. As long as you discuss disagreements on talk pages rather than simply reverting, there's no reason there would be an edit war. I'm not the one to help (due to the fact that I'm not a Stargate fan, just a Wikipedian who cares about referencing), but if you need help verifying things let me know. Also, the Season 10 episodes haven't actually come out yet, those are just spoilers. And there are nice transcripts, and some other things, there to help you. Armedblowfish (talk|contribs) 01:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  'T'would be an incredible feat if you DID rewrite even HALF of the 200 episodes. good luck! it's not my work focus atm though.. currently i'm devoting time to getting major articles into higher standards, and i'm hoping for an FA. -- Alfakim --  talk  03:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I am a big contributor to this project, but haven't done mcuh work with the episode articles.  Sevral other users have made it part of their routine to do a writeup of an episode as soon as info becomes avaible.  I like aflakim mostly work on the major articles, but I also do extensive work on the technology character and Alein race articles.  I have spent an admazing amount of time getting DNA Resequencer to a state that I think is as good as any FA on wikipedia.  The contributors who have participated so far in this discusion are not the ones who do most of the work with the episode articles.  Most episode writers (at least from what I have seen) tend to just write the summaries and work on the episodes, but don't comment on the project page very often.  If you want to contact the main episode writers, it might be prudent to leave messages on their talk pages.  Tobyk777 05:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think before someone rewrites all the episodes, we should at first write summaries for all the episode stubs. Afterwards we can still rewrite the Plots. Also if someone finds something in a summary which he/she doesn't like or thinks it doesn't fit then he/she can replace the unfitting part with a better written. I would be happy if someone would rewrite the plot summaries that I have written because I'm not a native of english language so I make mistakes when I write something. Diabound00 06:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the advise: I don't expect it to be quick, I spent a few hours writing each of the three, but I'll get quicker at it and I've got no illusions about it being a quick job, but I think can do it. Admittedly even one article a day would be several months work, but we'll see how I go, I guess. 
I know season 10 isn't released yet, but I've heard of a guy who has 9&10, so I intend to follow that up. 9 hasn't been played on TV here, and if it is I doubt they'd do it correctly: Moebius was played as "the stargate SG-1 and Atlantis crossover episode!"  - and they only played part one. I'd be better off buying them if I can find them. 
About writing summaries: I can write summaries for all the 1-8 stubs there are, then work from Season 1 onwards once that's done. I assume there's already stubs for all the episodes? Biscuit Knight 06:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that 9 is shown on TV in all regions.  Where are you that 9 has not been shown?  Also, 9 hasn't been released on DVD yet.  How did your freind get it.  I know sometimes they make pritated copies in China, but there are very few of those.  (plus I don't buy those becuase I support Stargate with a passion, and want it to do well.  I don't want to cheat the producers.  I don't buy pirated copies because they're ilgeal, bad quality, and destory the profits of the show.)  How did he get it?  I;m not acusing anyone of anything.   I would like to know how he got it so I can get it the same way he did. Also,  Diabound00, you write really well considering you are not a native of english.  There are only 2 or 3 slight mistakes in your paragraph.  I probably have more than that in mine.  Tobyk777 07:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in the states and 9 is defnitely not on DVD.  I havin been looking for months.  I haven't even been able to find the release date.  If anyone knows when it is please tell me.  about the costs; here in the states, or at least in my local region, it doesn't cost even close to $70 a season.  It's more like 30 or 35 dollars a season.  I wonder why it's so expensive in Austrialia.  Also, what TV channel is aring them in Austrillia that the schedule is so bad?  Tobyk777 17:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you talking about the same dollars?  70 Australian dollars is only (about) 50 US dollars. --Tango 17:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text:  You can buy the 9th Season here, though it looks like an auction. It's Chinese, so I don't know if the producers get paid or not. It says it's multi-region, so you shouldn't need a multi-region DVD player. Tower records seems to offer them in volumes, like here, though they don't provide much detail about what you are buying. Armedblowfish (talk|contribs) 18:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The chinese auction is exactly what I described ealier.  It's an ilgeal auction, which is selling stolen, or recorded footage.  I took a good look at the tower records thing.  Only the first 2 volumes are out.  Each season has 5 volumes but for some reason they will only sell the first 2.  Odd.  Also, They are selling each volume for 35 dollars, rather than 35 dollars a season whichi is what I usualy buy them for.  Tobyk777 00:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing Style of Episodes 

message: Hi, we currently have a template, Template:Stargateproject, which basicaly says that the page falls withtin the domain of this project.  Although I don't know how to do this, I know that a lot of templates, especialy userboxes, form catagroies where every page which includes the template are located.  I think it might be prudent to do.  I don't know how to do this, but I do think it would be nice to have one catagory which lists all pages related to stargate.  Tobyk777 00:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You just add the Category link to the template, that would add the talk page rather than the article itself, but it's close... We'd need to go through and add the template to all the articles though, it's missing from quite a few.  AWB might be useful - it can go through the various sub-categories (chars, races, technology, etc) and add the template to their talk pages.  We could just add the articles directly (using AWB) and avoid the talk page vs article problem. --Tango 00:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just did that. (Not AWB, just category link in template.) See :Category:Stargateproject. Armedblowfish (talk|contribs) 01:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Catagory:Stargate project

message: Shouldn't we try and have our list of SG episodes on it?  That would make sense...  American Patriot 1776 13:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a featured list already - doesn't that automatically get it into WP 1.0? --Tango 13:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily. I'd like to get ListofSGAeps featured as well. that's a side note though. someone add ListofSG1eps to the WP:1.0 list.. i'm too tired right now. -- Alfakim --  talk  00:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The SGA list follows the same format as the SG1 list, so it shouldn't be hard to get it featured (unless people don't want featured lists on very similar topics, but that's a questionable arguement).  I'll look into the WP 1.0 requirements later today. --Tango 13:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP 1.0 

message: Hi, I wasn't sure where to post this, or even if it belongs on WP, but I see no harm in asking it.  
There are 2 plot developments I thought of which I think would be and great.  I was just wondering what you guys thought of them:
*A battle between the wraith and the Ori
*A Goa'uld taking a wraith as a host, or taking a Prior as a host
What do you think?  Tobyk777 02:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first I have been fantasising about for ages. lol but i dont think it would work. would be an awesome series finale. the second, that's very interesting. would love to see it. -- Alfakim --  talk  03:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, now that the wraith are in the milky way, and the Ori are in the milky way, and they are both trying to invade the galaxy, I don't see how the writers are going to avoid them meeting.  Tobyk777 03:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm also wondering if the Ori will try to invade the Pegasus galaxy. After all, there are many planets there with human populations that don't follow Origin. JoshuaZ 03:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but they came to the Milky Way to destroy the Ancients, convincing humans to worship them is just a means to that end - they don't really need to go to Pegasus.  I can see the wraith converting to Origin in order to get help getting more "food". --Tango 14:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The wraith would never convert -- imagine them praying 6 hours a day and stuff. just, nope. i would really love to see a wraith/ori battle though - in space, the ori win, but on ground, MUCH more interesting. But the shows do try not to mingle THAT much i just dont see it happening. As for what Tobyk said, the Wraith aren't going to invade the milky way -- good old shepphard will stop them before that happens. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Imagine a Goauld in an Unas being fed on by a Wraith then at that moment becoming a prior.  Creepy....  and yes I have been fantisizing on this very subject... if only, if only...  American Patriot 1776 21:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Personally, I'm more interested in the post-Ori future of Earth (the show wouldn't be any good if the Ori won). But a few things bug me. For instance: FOR GOD'S SAKE, MAKE IT United States Interstellar Ship (USIS) not "USS" for Odyssey and Daedalus! Naval ship =/= spaceship. Thank you. And I've amused myself with the conceit that the next Daedalus-class ship will be called Jacob Carter, and that the British will show up at Atlantis with a ship (presumably smaller and cheaper than a Daedalus ship) called Her Majesty's Interstellar Ship Defiant. I don't know why. And for some reason, I always imagine the commander is a Scottish RAF Group Captain who knew Carson Beckett at some point. Again, I don't know why. Lockesdonkey 14:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that'd be great if they did SOMETHING to honour such a long time and well loved character as Jacob.-- Alfakim --  talk  04:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Your Stargate Opinions

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Human-Form_Replicators
:Please list stuff like this in the Nominations window, it makes it all much easier and less cluttered --Albotim 20:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IMPORTANT

message: Alright, so in a private email conversation between myself and Michelle of StargateWiki, Michelle pointed out that the URLs for StargateWiki have been modified due to a change in hosting. The old URLs will continue to work using redirection, but the new ones will work faster. So:
 
http://wiki.stargate-sg1-solutions.com/index.php/3.03_%22Fair_Game%22_Transcript
would become:
http://www.stargate-sg1-solutions.com/wiki/3.03_%22Fair_Game%22_Transcript
Anyways, Alfakim - would it be possible for you to use AWB to change the links? Or should this be done manually?
- Armedblowfish (talk|contribs) 18:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll get onto it.-- Alfakim --  talk  04:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New form of StargateWiki URLs 

message: Every article now has its own personalised "things to do" list. It is accessed through the sub-menu of  (the blue WikiProject banner at the top). So on the Talk page of any Stargate article, you can now select, read and add article-specific tasks. -- Alfakim --  talk  23:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: looks like a good tool.  Tobyk777 00:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I like it.  Good work! --Tango 14:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Eheh thanks.-- Alfakim --  talk  16:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEW per-article To do lists 

message: The  template is very useful for talking about episodes as inline text, but it is not recommended for use when referencing (i.e. in <ref> tags). In many places it is being used as a way to reference episodes (e.g. ), but  is much prefered. But there is an answer!
Calls to  can be easily converted into calls to  with the help of . Simply do the following:
        
 
and when you save, the use of  will have converted to a use of . This will be useful in maintenance when references must be brought up to standard.  can also be used on its own to generate proper references to Stargate episodes quickly. Remember that it must always be substed.
See the  template page for further details. -- Alfakim --  talk  01:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See also: above comment introducing the  template.
I discovered that template substitution doesn't work inside ref tags. This meant that to convert citations you'd have to remove the tags, save, and then put them back, and save again. I solved this. Now, all you need to do is remove the tags and save - the subtitution adds the tags back automatically.
        
 
This converts an  reference usage into a full  usage including the surrounding <ref> tags. On saving, the above gives:
This does now make it tons easier to cite Stargate articles properly. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper episode referencing with {{tl|xsgcite}} 

message: :See also: above comment introducing the  template.
I discovered that template substitution doesn't work inside ref tags. This meant that to convert citations you'd have to remove the tags, save, and then put them back, and save again. I solved this. Now, all you need to do is remove the tags and save - the subtitution adds the tags back automatically.
        
 
This converts an  reference usage into a full  usage including the surrounding <ref> tags. On saving, the above gives:
This does now make it tons easier to cite Stargate articles properly. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Substing {{tl|xsgcite}} 

message: has anyone heard anything about a new stargate fim or a new spin off series?
it is mentioned [here ] but there is very limited info and no sources
:I've been hearing vague rumours for the last few months, at least.  Some people are suggesting a new series might replace SG-1 after series 10 finishes, or they might run 3 concurrently. If there's a market for 3 Stargate shows at once, then all the "we shouldn't have so many articles about a tv show no-one watches" naysayers should finally be silenced - I don't know of any tv show that's had 2 spinoffs running at the same time as the main show.  Even Star Trek has only had two at once, I think (TNG finished before VOY started, if my memory is right).  I'm not sure about the film - again, it's just rumours, but I haven't seen as many. --Tango (forgot to sign)
::Come on, I'd LOVE 3 shows at once. the Ori can't only last for 2 seasons, i'm hoping for at least a good 4. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd love 3 shows at once, too.  Would mean less waiting for the next episode.  We'll see... --Tango 16:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha okay how about 7 shows at once!? lol.. a new episode each week, but staggered so you get a bit of gate every day :D:D:D okay so there IS too much. im liking the idea though :P. -- Alfakim --  talk  16:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The writers wouldn't be able to keep up and the quality would deteriorate rapidly - it would be great at first, though.  I'll settle for reruns 4 days a week and new eps 3 days. --Tango 16:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that there is a market for 3 shows at once.  I personaly know at least 50 people who are huge fans of the show.  I looked at the ratings last week.  It ranks as the 25th most popular show on US TV.  On Friday nights, the sci-fi channel has more viewers in the US than any other network on TV, with more than 10 million viewers.  (And that's not even counting viewers who don't have that device in their TVs which trasnmits viewership.)  More than 30 million Stargate DVDs have been sold.  Stargate is approaching Star Trek in notablity and popularity.  The other day, at a train station, I asked 15 random people if they watch stargate.  Admazingly, four said yes, and 2 said they were big fans.  Just like Tango, I have encoutered people who say that it's a show that "no one watches" and ive seen people say that this project shouldn't exsist here on WP.  They're completely wrong.  If those people would look at the facts and stats, they would see just how popular it is, and that it is growing.  Gateworld held a poll about this very subject, whether people wanted 3 sieries to run at once.  The vast majority said yes.  I have also found sevral articles saying that MGM is planning on doing it.  I think that the probablity of 3 siries at once is good.  And if that doesn't shut up people who say Stargate is non-nobtable, they officaly have no sense of logic.  Tobyk777 07:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new film/series?