Talk:C. B. Fry

message: I am new to Wiki, so don't want to attempt editing. CB Fry's 21 year long jump record is a myth. He only equalled the existing record, and that stood for just 18 months.
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* Bah, this is what you get for believing Wisden. I looked up some numbers - it says Fry jumped 23 feet 5 inches in an Oxford-Cambridge match in 1892. That's 7.14 metres.  In 1901, Peter O'Connor jumped 7.61 metres. So, definitely didn't last 21 years. I shall amend the page. Average Earthman 11:13, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Long jump record?

message: I've read that C.B. Fry one hit a ball into a tree and scored 66 runs before the ball was fielded. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmmmm, now, if you only had a reference for that, Nicholas:) jguk 20:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Too bad I don't. It was on a small DYK card that used to come with some chocolates years back. (early 90s) =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:40, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  66 runs 

message: I am removing the following paragraph, which appears to be subject to a revert war at present:
:Comedian and writer Stephen Fry is related to him, as revealed on the television panel game QI. It was also revealed (to much amusement) that, as a party piece, C.B. Fry was able to jump backwards onto a mantlepiece from a standing position.
The reason I am removing it is that a comedy quiz show is not a suitable source. I saw the edition of QI in question too - and whilst Stephen Fry does say that, it is not clear whether he is saying it as a fact, or whether he is just saying it because they share a surname. Nor does he mention the relationship. Not only that Wikipedia:Verifiability makes it clear that we should rely on published, reputable sources. A comedy quiz programme doesn't fit into that. Please do not re-insert the information without a published source - and I'd expect such a source to describe the relationship too, jguk 19:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No advance on their relationship (my recollection is that Stephen does indeed claim CB as a relative, and not as a joke) but here is a source (Cricinfo, no less) for the mantlepiece claim, which should be stetted.  It is mentioned in this one (referring to a Manchester newspaper).-- ALoan (Talk) 21:23, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just seen a programme on the BBC where Stephen Fry traced his ancesters back to his great, great grandparents.  No mention of CB Fry, sadly. here for some info.  Hardly definative, but there we go! Gavinio 23:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly not definitive - the TV programme traced his maternal roots. If he is indeed a relative of CB Fry, it would be an extraordinary coincidence if it wasn't through his paternal line! Dweller 09:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to Stephen Fry 

message: Didn't Fry also create a (then) famous magazine for boys? Anyone remember? Dweller 09:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Magazine?

message: I seem to recall that late in life, Fry is quoted as saying that what he achieved on the Mercury was his greatest achievement in life. Anyone got a source? Would be a nice addition to the article. Dweller 09:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did he achieve anything, except leaving it in the control of a particularly vicious sadist? He pranced round the world enjoying himself, while she had helpless young men publicly flogged for her amusement. Seadowns (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Training ship Mercury

message: Shouldn't there be data for some of the other sports, as well as cricket? Dweller 09:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Info Box

message: I have books by Cardus in which he talks about Fry and I will try to embody some of that into this article.  Anyone else have any similar thoughts? --AlbertMW 06:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please go ahead. Since you are new here, it may help to take a look around the other cricket articles to get an idea about what the existing ones are like. Tintin (talk) 06:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neville Cardus 

message: I removed the description of Fry being a polymath because there is nothing at all in the article that would even begin to make such a description plausible. If someone wants to put it back, please give your reasons. Hi There 13:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's back. See Polymath and its talk page. This article demonstrates he was a polymath beyond any debate. --Dweller 10:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It hardly makes him a polymath beyond any debate, does it?  It was a throw-away comment by a journalist writing about something else entirely.  Having said that, I can see the reasons for having it in.  He's probably close to being a polymath - but I'd say his skills were less academic than most polymaths. --Gavinio 15:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I removed it. Your reference is laughable. Some sportswriter making a bald reference to Fry as a "polymath" is not authoritative in any way at all. If you would like to take the time and trouble to write the article so that the reasons for considering him a polymath are included in the article itself, a discussion might be possible.Hi There 17:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

text: My reading of the article is not that he was a polymath simply because he was good at a variety of sports.  He was also a politician (not a party politician) who was once offered the crown of Albania, he rubbed shoulders with statesmen, and was deeply concerned about the education of youth.  Of course he knew a lot.  Your idiosyncratic argument that Fry wasn't a polymath because you think Michael Jordan is a "better" sports great completely misses the point.  --RobertG ♬ talk 14:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Polymath

message: That's rather an unusual number - did he complete someone else's over?
Apepper 16:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In those days they had five ball overs. Tintin 16:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. This is the match in which he bowled:  JH (talk page) 16:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't know they had anything other than 6 or 8 ball overs! Thanks for the info.Apepper 18:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bowled 10 balls for England? 

message: I have changed the reference to Fry competing at White City in 1894 (it wasn't built until 1908!) to Queen's Club. The details can be found in the archives of the New York Times at . Eyebeeuk (talk) 06:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  White City 

message: In the introduction we mention that he was a writer, editor and publisher, but we don't seem to have anything on those activities in the body of the article, apart from one picture. Any volunteers to write a paragraph or two on this? JH (talk page) 21:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now written something. JH (talk page) 19:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Literary Man 

message: The article avers that Fry's batting average of fifty was "a particularly high figure for an era when scores were generally lower than today".  How true is this, though, of the age in which batting, riding the crest of W.G.'s mighty wave, truly found its feet? Robertson-Glasgow (talk) 11:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A good question. Though many pitches were good by the late 1890s, I think because they were uncovered there were more rain-affected, difficult pitches than today, so that averages tended to be rather lower. JH (talk page) 17:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're not doing a Robert on me, are you?  What's this "JH" business? Robertson-Glasgow (talk) 09:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  :) It's what I've been using all along as my Wiki sig. JH (talk page) 10:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Averages in Fry's era 

message: I am almost sure I remember that Fry wrote a novel too -- called, I think, "A  Mother's Son". Does anyone have more information? jake b (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. According to his Wisden obituary, which is reproduced in his profilee on Cricibnfo: In collaboration with his wife, he wrote the novel A Mother's Son which was published in 1907. I've now added it to the article. JH (talk page) 20:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books by Fry 

message: Corinthian FC is used, but this appears to be an error -- he played for the Casuals, but they didn't merge with Corinthian until 1939. He's listed on the Corinthian site as playing for the Casuals.  ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 14:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casuals vs Corinthian 

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message: Surely there should be a mention of his marriage to one of the foulest female sadists we know of?  Seadowns (talk) 2:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. And it shouldn't be hard to find references to justify your description of her. (She might even already have her own Wikipedia article, though I haven't checked.) I've read that Fry was totally dominated by her. JH (talk page) 10:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You could start here --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 10:20, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage