Talk:Lysanias

message: I felt the article should make it clearer that Lysanias could be either one or two people, and that there is a debate about it. I've "been bold" and changed it, as it became easier than explaining here what I had in mind; but if anyone dislikes what I've done, please feel free to change it, or, if you disagree, to revert it.Swanny18 14:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarify 

message: Someone has written an essay to prove that the inscription cannot mean the biblical Lysanias.  Interesting tho this is, I think that it fails the 'original research' criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia.  Rather it belongs on someone's web page, with a link to it on this one.  If there are scholars who have expressed doubts, then a summary with reference would appropriately be inserted under the biblical Lysanias section?
I've also pruned and reorganised the page; it was rather repetitive, full of unreferenced assertions, and too concerned to argue for or against the identity of the two figures.  I hope it helps and that I haven't committed the sin of POV either way.  What I tried to do was let the data speak for itself.  Roger Pearse 16:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved essay 

message: The editor who has removed evidence from this entry seems more interested in apologetics than in getting at the history of the matter. The attempt to put the figure mentioned in Luke on the same level as the verified Lysanias shows no historical methodology. Repetition of errors does not make the error any more correct. The conjectures on the fragment from Abila mentioning Lysanias has been shown to be baseless from the coin evidence cited in the article. Removing it only seems to show a desire to hid facts. If you cannot check the evidence leave it alone. F.F. Bruce is a Christian text scholar and apologist who shows no interest in history. He has no place in an article with pretensions of history. --Doktorspin (talk) 12:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: These comments are rather strange.  I didn't remove any evidence from the article; if there was anything which was like that, I kept it!  What I removed was unreferenced POV.  Complaining that material from Luke is "not historical" is your opinion.  My own opinion is that the question is irrelevant to this article, which is about Lysanias.  The two sources we have are Josephus and Luke, and, without offering any judgement, I listed them.  Bias against F.F.Bruce is irrelevant; those references were there already, and I simply made them references.  Since he was a published scholar, that seems fair.  You have already stated your intention to "infidelize" the article.  Please don't do this.  Instead, why not discuss your edits, one by one, and reach consensus?  Roger Pearse 22:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Returning Lysanias to history 

message: In the article, it is asserted that Lysanias was cousin of Antigonus. I find the concept persuasive but I am curious what the logic or citation might be. Reading the relevant portions of Josephus could lead to that conclusion but I haven't read such a conclusion, stated in so many words, in any source other than this Wikipedia article.
Hippodras (talk) 00:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lysanias was cousin of Antigonus 

message: Philip was given ruler-ship of some of the land Ptolemy and Lysanias ruled.  We don't know much about Cleopatra of Jerusalem, maybe she was a daughter of Lysanias?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.176.92 (talk) 04:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible Luke's Lysanias the same as Philip the Tetrarch? 

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