Talk:Screenshot

message: OS X names them "Screen Shot [date...].png", so clearly screen shot should be an accepted spelling?
180.222.70.25 (talk) 01:28, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: ejk6cjT4U-f 188.113.235.96 (talk) 19:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling: Screen Shot 

message: I have a Mac running System 7 (7.1 to be specific) and I can confirm that you can take screenshots by hitting Cmd + Shift + 3. It saves them in PICT format on the root of the hard drive. If someone can confirm the behaviors of Mac OS 8 and Mac OS 9, I'm sure it would be appreciated. ~ Oni Lukos c 18:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-Mac OS X screenshots 

message: so "screen capture" allows you to record videos of the screen?  what software is used for that?  i can't find any.  — Omegatron 18:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know Lotus ScreenCam is very old but works fine in Windows 2000. --Mateusc 14:22, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lotus Screencam is now better known as Camtasia Studio, I believe SmUX 00:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added a new section "Video screen captures", hope it helps. Peter S. 23:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm sure it *will* help when someone actually puts in some of the "multitude" of programs that "fill the void" as links so people like me (who came to wiki to find links) could use them :-P SmUX 00:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  videos 

message: For screenshots of XP, OSX, BeOS, Amiga, and so on and so forth one has to display them using the fair use header and have a good reason for them to be up, whereas for KDE, Gnome, etc one doesn't. I get that.
However...
My laptop's screen looks nearly identical to OSX Tiger with a modified wallpaper. There's a dock at the bottom, no recycle bin, it's using Mac-looking icons in the systray, and the windows themselves look like Aqua windows except that the max/min/close buttons are on the righthand side of the window. It's even set up to windowshade things.
I'm running XP Professional (with a few tweaks).
If I took a screenshot of my desktop, would it be considered a shot of software copyrighted by Microsoft, even though I've gone to every effort for the appearance to not be that nasty Chiclets interface XP defaults to?
Or would it be considered to be copyrighted by OSX's Aqua default? But it's NOT a Mac at all, so how could it be? Perhaps as a derived work from Apple's desktop?
I actually have a reason. I was considering some sort of article about desktop customisation, and thought that a screenshot of an XP laptop screen that looks just like OSX would be a good illustration of the concept (especially as mac-faking is one of the most popular applications of desktop customisation, shortly after filling it with bad holiday theme stuff and making it as black as possible).
Aside form all this, I have a raised eyebrow about whether or not Microsoft or Apple can copyright a desktop. Maybe they can copyright a particular screenshot they took themselves, but the desktop is not a creative work and thus not protected by copyright. It's a utilitarian work, no matter how pretty, and, realistically, any claim to have copyright on a desktop is just as absurd as a claim to have copyright on a real physical desktop. Don't get me wrong, I understand that Wikipedia errs on the side of caution, even if it does seem a bit silly sometimes and underscores the idea that all our IP laws need to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch with a mandatory refusal to accept input from Microsoft or Disney.
:They can copyright the artwork used within the OS; they can copyright their source code; they might patent some methods, but they can't copyright any specific screenshot you might take because it is not an "original work of authorship" because a human has to author it for it to be subject to copyright protection.  What you are looking at when you take a screenshot was "authored" by their code.  They might have some possible rights in derivative works if they have copyrights in images on your screen at the time you take the screen shot (perhaps some of the icons); but it's not likely they would pursue them.  In any event, it'd probably easily pass fair use if it ever became an issue, but like I said, they more than likely do not have any copyright in any particular screen you might see.  Peyna 14:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small question... 

message: Has there been any court cases over screenshots and/or videos of programs? The article says 'some companies believe...' so that makes me think no, but if so it'd be a good thing to cite. 151.201.218.248 03:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright section 

message: From section 1.3.1 (A Step by Step Guide):
:Click the "Save as type" drop-down and select "JPEG (*.JPG;*.JPEG;*.JPE*;.JFIF)".
This is bad advice, in my opinion: it will probably result in some loss of image quality which could likely be conserved in PNG.
:I agree - but then the whole "how to" aspect of the article needs to be moved somewhere else. Cpc464 10:56, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad advice? 

message: In the article it says that certain players don't require hardware overlays to be on, and WinDVD is listed as one of those programs.  However, when I turn overlays off, it says that it can't compile the overlay (Obviously), and that the file won't run.  It suggest lowering the screen resolution and color compression, which didn't make any difference when I'd done them.  Are you sure that the article is accurate in its statement?  If it is, what am I doing wrong? JBK405 05:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WinDVD doesn't use Overlays?

message: I take issue with the statement "("GIF" and the other three bitmap types are often not suitable for full-color screenshots because they discard color information; "JPEG" is never suitable for screenshots because it blurs borders.)" for two reasons.  Not all users run at bit depths above 8bpp, so a GIF file may be more than suitable for certain environments.  Other bitmap types can contain full 24bpp data, so the statement is doubly false.  Additionally, a screen may not contain GUI elements or other high-contrast, line-art elements that are poorly handled by JPEG wavelet compression.  Any objections to removing this line? Alvis 04:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Format NPOV

message: This article doesn't make a single mention of anything about consoles (phones, TVs, Playstations, Gamecubes, Xboxes, etc.), and yet I see screenshots off Atari 5700's all over the place! I think someone should add a section about consoles. I see screenshots of them everywhere (try taking a look at IGN or GameSpy). --RedPooka 15:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consoles? 

message: This article was strewed with external links in the text leading to tutorials on the website of Pixelmetrics, a commercial package to make screenshots. I removed all the references.  Husky (talk page) 19:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pixelmetric website 

message: ... is to first start another application which will hog the overlay (e.g. Show a movie on Windows media Player) , then start the application from which you want to capture the screenshot (e.g a video on Win DVD). This technique is especially useful for sports action as the captured image is de-interlaced. My thanks to Chiew Heng Wah http://www.codeproject.com/audio/capvidscrn.asp
Clive Harris 17:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A third way to turn off the overlay in Microsoft Windows ... 

message: Section 2.3 (which, until 19 Jan 2007, described how to capture a screenshot in Windows using the Print Screen key) was removed by AbsolutDan, on the grounds that Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. Fine, except that now the whole article is generally misleading. Someone who didn't know better would think that the only way to get a screenshot was to download software from the External Links section.  --63.25.237.21 20:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note I did indicate in the edit summary that it was a rough cleanup. Please feel free to fix it. --AbsolutDan (talk) 00:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is now misleading. 

message: How do people take screenshots from video games, so that there's nothing outside the screen in the whole shot taken? --PJ Pete
:just the question I was looking for (specifically to put this in).  There's a program called FRAPS which *very* effectively records the audio and video in DirectX games as you play it (even giving information overlaid as it's doing so *in-game* for you).  It records it in a high quality format which of course results in huge files, but if you want to give it out it doesn't take long to compress the video to a better format/filesize with VirtualDub :-)  FRAPS is available at http://www.fraps.com/ and I recommend it, it's a fun little program :-) SmUX 00:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taking Screenshots from Video Games 

message: i think this page was vandalized —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A380 Fan (talk • contribs) 23:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  could someone 

message: A question was posted on the Computing Reference Desk (here) regarding the portion of this article that indicates that Photoshop (among others) can be configured to capture a screenshot.  I have found references indicating how this can be done using the GIMP and IrfanView, but nothing regarding Photoshop.  Can anybody confirm that the capability exists?  Thanks.  --LarryMac 01:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, Photoshop has no built in screenshot functionality. The program itself does not make such an option obvious, and google searches for the most obvious keywords return no results. As far as I'm aware, GIMP, PSP, and IrfanView are some of the apps that definately include such functionality --daranzt 13:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I've taken the liberty of editing that section of this article, and will also further respond on the  Computing Ref Desk. --LarryMac 14:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshot from Photoshop? 

message: This article really leans heavily towards modern use of screenshots and has almost no historical information or perspective.  The use of screenshots for programs such as games goes all the way back to the Atari 2600 (maybe earlier?).  And there is most likely some interesting information that could be included in this article such as how many people have been mislead over the years by screenshots for games that were from an alternate platform.  Eventually game makers had to put a caption like "Screenshot from Amiga" on game boxes or "Actual IBM PC screenshot".  Plus there is the whole thing of using screenshots from pre-rendered in game videos to try to make a game look better.  I don't have any references to this stuff that I could use, but I'll try to add a bit to the article that is generally accepted. -- Suso 23:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was a good start, but we really need those references. Also, if the history portion is going to be mostly about controversies, it might be good to adjust the section title accordingly. Thmazing (talk) 23:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical information needed 

message: I think that there should be a section in this article that talks about taking screenshots from video games onto a computer, from machines like Xbox and things along those lines.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.21.195 (talk) 06:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question has been bugging me... 

message: "DVDs are often encrypted using a patented algorithm called Content-scrambling system or CSS, making it much more difficult to take screenshots of them."  
Is this accurate?  Primary reason you can't capture is probably due to the fact that an overlay is being used and not because of CSS.  
Can anybody care to comment on this? 
124.168.216.45 (talk) 11:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD's with CSS and Screen Capture - Inacurate Statement? 

message: Do we really need an iPhone section? There are dozens of other devices that have a screenshot capability. Either way, I'm pretty sure there should be a Ubuntu section before the iPhone. Eugeniu B (talk) 05:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  iPhone 

message: The section about screenshot software would be more appropriately split off into a new article called Screenshot software allowing it to be expanded. It would also allow for the list of screenshot software to be expanded. --Hm2k (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided it would be best to keep information about what screenshot software is within the article, however I think the "List of screenshot software" should be split instead. No response will form consensus. --Hm2k (talk) 11:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree with this idea.  Splitting the Screenshot Software from the general article will improve the flow and function of the page. -- SeedAI  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.149.113.165 (talk) 20:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Oppose I disagree with splitting. Let the list grow before splitting it. Since it is half year that this topic is not followed up,  I consider this issue as concluded. I'm going ahead and deleting the split tag. Fleet Command (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split: Screenshot software 

message: The article has the following line under the Windows section
:However, some third-party applications can capture overlay images.
I’m not sure if that is correct or at least clear enough. VLC can “capture an overlay video” by writing the frame buffer to a file, but that only works because VLC is the video player; it is the one generating the display. VLC cannot use its screen-capture function to capture an overlay video from another source (eg WMP), and other apps cannot capture VLC’s video when played on the overlay surface.
So if the above sentence is indeed correct and complete, someone will need to elaborate with an example or two.
Synetech (talk) 01:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This line was written by me. As an example take a look at CapTrue website Strop4 (talk) 05:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope; I just tested it and it that cannot capture overlays or the cursor.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synetech (talk • contribs) 02:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capturing Images from Overlay Surface 

message: Various articles on Wikipedia itself use the term to refer to screen captures of Television programs, yet the opener seems to think they only come from computers. Later sections mentions TV screenshots, but since those are not described at any earlier point, it seems to come out of nowhere. I'll tweak the intro slightly, but we need a section on TV screenshots. — trlkly 00:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshots are not just for computers 

message: There is currently a sentence in this section that reads (emphasis added): "This utility might only be available when the Mac OS X developer tools are installed." Does anyone have a source for confirming or denying whether the developer tools need to be installed? An uncertain statement like this has no place here. --danhash (talk) 19:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac OS X 

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message: Can you please tell me whether taking screen shots on "all rights reserved" games, such as war of legends Legal or not!!!!!!!!!--WOLfan112 (talk) 19:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see [Fair Use] ... 'reproduction of part of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.' ... four factors should be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair.<BR>
1. The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for non-profit educational purposes.<BR>
2. The nature of the copyrighted work.<BR>
3. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole.<BR>
4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work.<BR>
The distinction between what is fair use and what is infringement in a particular case will not always be clear or easily defined.  You should consider avoiding the use of copyrighted material unless you are confident that the doctrine of fair use would apply to the situation.<BR>
For Wikipedia purposes, review a more practical description to fit your needs: [Fair Wiki Use]<BR>
 --Wikidity (talk) 02:32, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal 

message: Another article links to the subheading "Game screenshots" in this article, but the subheading doesn't exist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.81.0 (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be helpful if you could point out which article it was. — daranz [ t ] 02:05, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link 

message: The 'photographic techniques' section is fascinating but lacks any sourcing and I could not turn up any proof of Polaroid releasing screenshot film in 1988 after about 30 minutes of digging - I'll remove that factoid but the rest might be worth revising. TEENS4BLOOMBERG (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographic Techniques