Talk:Coals to Newcastle

message: The first citation - for the meaning of this phrase - is to the 'freedictionary'.  If you follow the link, and read the small print, you will find that the freedictionary cites this Wikipedia article as their source.  So in the end this article is citing itself.
It would probably be a good idea to find a different source.  Especially for crucial information such as the definition of the phrase.  Gavroche42 11:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation Issue

message: With regards to the French idiom, the wikipedia entries on eskimo suggest that the word isn't synonymous to Inuit. Also, there's no citations for the sentence. Andjam (talk) 01:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Added by an anonymous IP. I didn't think much of it, and if you also have concerns, I'm happy to remove it. --DeLarge (talk) 11:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eskimo vs Inuit 

message: ...but in Australia. The Aussie Newcastle is today the world's largest coal export harbour. The term is still used in Australia, but now referring to the Australian Newcastle instead of the English one as originally intended (and in many cases forgotten). Of course, I have no references to prove this, just personal experience. 52 Pickup (deal) 06:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, cheers for that. I went looking for links on the subject, and found this item in the Sydney Morning Herald from '04, and this Britannica article. And here's a Washington Post article describing it exactly as you did, as "the world's largest coal port". I'll do some digging. --DeLarge (talk) 10:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term still makes sense today, if not in Britain... 

message: I've been told that there's a phrase with similar meaning which translates as "Carrying Owls to Athens". It's used in at least Greece and Germany. I don't have any references though - this was from German and Greek friends.
217.146.112.205 (talk) 22:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Eulen nach Athen tragen", which is the German interwikilink (see sidebar on the article page). I suppose it could be incorporated into the main text as well. --DeLarge (talk) 21:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equivalent in other languages 

message: The common use is Taking coals to Newcastle which is supported by one of the few references that still work. It is my proposal to move this page over re-direct to that title.  Velella  Velella Talk   20:44, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Move proposal

message: You have twisted the the expression "carrying coals to Newcastle" and changed it to "selling" so you can celebrate how wonderful American industrialists are because people in Newcastle buy American coal.    The the expression is "carrying" or "taking."  I know you changed the title, but the definition in the article still erroneously uses "selling" as its key point. 
It is not about attempting an impossible task, selling things or economics.  It's about foolishly bringing something to where it is already plentiful.  They don't need coals in Newcastle, and carrying them there is a complete waste of effort, because I could have just gone to Newcastle and got coal when I arrived.   If my Italian mother-in-law invites me over for supper and I bring meatballs, it's like "carrying coals to Newcastle," because she always prepares many more meatballs than everyone can eat and I have wasted my time making the meatballs I brought (and everyone will have a laugh at my expense because I should have known better).  CaperBill (talk) 00:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: This page completely misses the point

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message: Citation 2 credits fitzhugh who was not alive at the time credited. 172.58.89.182 (talk) 03:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, it seems to be his grandfather (1650-1701) with the same name. http://ravensworthstory.org/people/owners/fitzhugh-family/fitzhugh-william-the-immigrant/ LordMoff (talk) 18:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Actually, Hieronymus used "In silva ne ligma" as well as Horace used "In silvam non ligna feras" which means bringing wood into the forest. It has no connection to Newcastle whatsoever. LordMoff (talk) 18:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation 2 or link 

message: The Midrash reports a version of the saying used in Ancient Egypt: "Wheat to Ophrayem". Drsruli (talk) 20:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Version