Talk:Cajun French

message: i'm looking for a cajun french audio language course that costs $30 or less.
i can't really afford to pay several hundred dollars for one. Gringo300 20:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: cajun french audio language course

message: How much has Cajun affected regional varieties of English?  For example, I know that in the Southern US, some areas use the word "poke" to mean "bag" or "sack"—this is almost certainly from Cajun, on par with Jèrriais (Norman) "pouque", of the same meaning.  Also, do we have any speakership statistics on Cajun?  The Jade Knight 06:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Influences into English?

message: Why isn't there any Wikipedia in Cajun French yet? It's time to start one, isn't it? Aaker 18:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do we need a different WP for Cajun French? We currently only have one English wikipedia where several dialects coexist relatively peacefully. Can't you just create a template on the fr.wikipedia.com to indicate that a specific French article is using the Cajun dialect? I am not trying to start a wikiriot or anything, just asking... Dave  (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 21:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia in Cajun French?

message: I would like to see this section deleted and new sections like "dialects," "sounds," "orthography," "grammar" and "vocabulary" created so that this article can equal the french language article.  There's no reason that "differences from standard French" should even be in an article about Cajun French since the French language article doesn't mention "differences from Cajun French." RoyAlcatraz 04:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: RoyAlcatraz, from a strictly theoretical viewpoint, of course, you could treat Louisiana French and Parisian French perfectly symmetrically, and turn around and study Parisian French through its differences from Louisiana French. The difference is that Parisian French is widely known and is well-described in reference works. Many people interested in Cajun French will in practice already know something about Parisian French or about the French language in general, and the fastest way to tell them what Cajun French is may be comparing it to something similar that they already know about. The article French language ought to be about the language in general, including all its varieties.96.46.204.126 (talk) 05:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: For the most part I agree, except for pronunciation, since it can be quite different. There's an old lead here . Some of it might be dubious, and I don't have references other than personal knowledge, but I know Cajuns tend to palatalize  and , often to where they sound like  and  respectively. Also, rhotic vowels (as in /ar/ and /er/) often are pronounced as , like in the last name Bergeron, where the first /er/ is pronounced , or cher, pronounced . As mentioned in the linked discussion, [a] is pronounced  usually, and [wa] pronounced [we] in the same contexts as Québecois French. 74.192.16.169 (talk) 05:21, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences from Standard French?

message: Can we really trust statistics that come from an organization whose mission is to make English the official language of America?  Only 18,000 speakers?  They must have missed a few hundred thousand people during their research.  Something also must be said about the large population of people who are fluent Cajun French listeners who don't speak the language, but understand every word. RoyAlcatraz 02:57, 23 August 2007 (Utc)
:As I've stated below, the Census Bureau seems to have drastically under-counted Cajun speakers in the 2000 Census in St. Charles Parish (40 Cajun speakers versus 1,149 who self-identified as speaking "French").  Part of this may be honest confusion on the part of respondents to the 2000 Census, since when I grew up there, no semantic distinction was made between the Cajun dialect and Metropolitan French (and there probably was and is some linguistic overlap between the two dialects in eastern St. Charles Parish over the years owing to its proximity to New Orleans).  I'm pretty sure that state-wide, there HAS been an undercount of Cajun speakers and a dramatic one, if one relies on the 2000 Census numbers.loupgarous (talk) 05:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OH ALSO we do have dates now, so someone needs to take down the "needs date" template (I do not know how to) Brianc26 (talk) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I took away the needs date flag by inserting a |date=2013 clause into the template. While I was at it I took the liberty of commenting out the 250,000 number and it's supporting reference, since everybody seems to agree that the 250,000 number is wrong and the only source is a dictionary which is not a reliable source for that kind of information. I will watch this page and make sure the correct number sticks. I would appreciate it if the rest of y'all do the same. Peace, Dusty|💬|You can help! 21:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Total Speakers

message: Perhaps within the hallowed halls of Tulane it is appropriate to use the phrase, "Louisiana Regional French" -- this, however, is a term never used outside academia. If this phrase is uncommon (or non-existent outside of Tulane), does it rise to the standard to be mentioned as an a.k.a. on the main article page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.89.4.213 (talk) 05:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Louisiana Regional French ??? 

message: I notice that Louisiana French redirects here, and possibly is responsible for the highly dubious claims about where Cajun French is spoken. Perhaps "Louisiana French" should be a disambiguation, with a link to "Louisiana Creole French" as well.  Greater New Orleans area Francophones were not historically Cajun of course. -- Infrogmation (talk) 08:22, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, some people choose to identify themselves on the Census as Cajun-speakers, and others as French-speakers. This is their choice and not one that's imposed on them. I'm sure many factors go into the decision. Obviously, the vast majority of French-speakers there are Cajun, so it's sensible to add the two numbers. Cajun French is a kind of French, after all. 96.46.204.126 (talk) 05:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: More than one French in Louisiana

message: I can't find Cajun French on the UNESCO list of endangered languages.  Is it still endangered?  Or has it become more prominent?
71.49.59.87 (talk) 11:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Ej" is also used by Acadians in Nova Scotia... so I don't think it has anything to do with German influence. saɪm duʃan Talk|Contribs 07:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Loupgarous, if they can't get enough local teachers, they should try to bring them in from New Brunswick instead of France. The teachers could get the kids fluent enough in Acadian French that they could start learning from the elders in the community. I think it's desirable for people in Louisiana to have two kinds of French - Colloquial Louisiana French for everyday use and a Standard Louisiana French used for international communication. This would be different from European French but still be useful for talking to Canadians and Europeans. The reason the second one is also important is that being able to connect with the outside world is likely to attract some young people to the language. By the way, educated Acadians from New Brunswick all have (at least) two ways of speaking French. For example, if you listen to a news program from there over the internet, you'll see that there's an Acadian way to speak Standard French. Oh, and moustique and maringouin are both used in Quebec too (and probably Acadia). 96.46.204.126 (talk) 06:18, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Still Endangered?

message: I am having trouble understanding what is in the lede. A recent edit tried to clarify but only underscored the part that I find confusing. This is the sentence that I have trouble understanding:
However, there are significant populations of Louisiana Creoles—descended from European, African, and Native American ancestors—who continue to speak this variety of French. Parishes where this dialect is found include, but are not limited to, Avoyelles, Iberia, Pointe Coupée, St. Martin, St. Landry, St. Mary, St. Tammany, Terrebonne, Plaquemines, and other parishes south of Orleans.
Which variety of French do we mean when we say "this variety of French"? Are we talking about Cajun French (which is the topic of the article) or are we talking about Louisiana French Creole (which is technically not a variety of French but a separate language with very strong French influence)? I was going to make an edit to clear it up but am too confused to be bold. Also, if we are not talking about Cajun French but some other variety (or another related language) then do we need it in the lede? (The fact that it is in the lede at all is the only thing that makes me suspect we are talking about Cajun French and not the Creole language.) Dusty|💬|You can help! 13:57, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the lede saying? 

message: So according to this article, Cajuns, living in Acadiana, don't speak Cajun French.  The people Cajuns would say speak Creole actually speak Cajun.  The only link that backs up this pretty bizarre assertion leads to nothing.  The section listing the Acadiana parishes as the places where Cajuns all don't know what they speak is written in alarming grammar that tastes strongly of someone wedging an unsupported personal opinion into the article; it also includes a city listed as a parish and includes no links to back it up.  If this is going to stay in this article, it needs documentation (and a good whacking with a grammar stick).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.73.74 (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wait, what? 

message: Simply put, there is no difference between the two terms. The term "Louisiana French," while not so common in everyday speech, is a much more accurate and PC term to use, because Cajuns are not the only ones in the area who use Louisiana French, and there is no dialect of Louisiana French that only Cajuns (and not their neighbors) use. So, I'd suggest merging this article into Louisiana French to dispel the notion that the two terms somehow refer to different things, and to clean up duplicated sections. 70.189.38.161 (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and have made a merger proposal that discussion of Cajun French be incorporated into a subsection in Louisiana French. lŋgwstks (talk) 14:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between "Cajun" and "Louisiana" French 

message: As the "Voice of KVPI" for nearly 50 years, his is one of the most widely known voices speaking Cajun French. If you listened to Cajun French radio in the last 50 years, there is a good chance you were listening to him. For much of that time period, he also conducted the live on location broadcast in Cajun French (including the life music coverage from Fred's Lounge in Mamou}. Even now in his late 70's and semi-retired, he still gives the news in Cajun French and co-host a Cajun French talk show twice a week.
He has been featured in articles about Cajun French by the New York Times and Public Radio International. He is also a major and predominant supporter of the preservation and revival of Cajun French. InfinityzeN (talk) 00:48, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consider adding Jim Soileau to Notable Louisiana French-speaking people 

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