Talk:Choekyi Gyaltsen, 10th Panchen Lama

message: Sorry for moving this page around so much. It's hard to know what name to use, as this man is mostly known as "the previous Panchen Lama". I'm considering moving it to Choekyi Gyaltsen for simplicity. He probably is the person best-known by that name (with nothing affixed to it), even though he has a longer formal name and there is at least one other Choekyi Gyaltsen. Or, maybe this page should just move to 10th Panchen Lama (that would imply a style change also affecting the Dalai Lama and Karmapa articles). - Nat Krause(Talk!) 18:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that sounds good. This article used to have a really nice picture, he was at a table with 3 others, I think. Oh wait, here it is:   . That's one of the good things about Wikipedia mirrors. If we could find a copyright status (and a source) for the image, then we'd be set. —Khoikhoi 00:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which do you prefer, Choekyi Gyaltsen or 10th Panchen Lama? The latter is probably how he's best known.—Nat Krause(Talk!) 00:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer Choekyi Gyaltsen, 10th Panchen Lama for consistency (like Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama) —Khoikhoi 00:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not consistency with Rangjung Rigpe Dorje (the 16th Karmapa), though? I suggest we think outside the box and come up with a more suitable standard if necessary.—Nat Krause(Talk!) 00:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My point was that all the Dalai Lama (and Panchen Lama) articles current have the suffix at the end, so if we're going to move one we should move the rest of them. —Khoikhoi 01:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but it might take a long time to figure out where all those pages should get moved to. Personally, I think there's something to be said for including the "14th Dalai Lama" in the article about that person, even if it's an exception, because he is so very widely known as simply "the Dalai Lama".—Nat Krause(Talk!) 01:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I see what you're saying. However, we need to keep the article about the office of Dalai lama. I guess the suffix isn't really necessary however. —Khoikhoi 01:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: May I ask why Ran added the communist chinese version of who the next Panchen Lama is? It is interesting, to say the least, that you out of nowhere come and just add that and now claim that you are neutral? Couldn't you add some info on the Panchen Lama? This is yet another example of what Ran is after. Ran is a chinese nationalist in a sheep skin. I have collected few examples. Meet me at my talk page. Me 02:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Something you may not know. The Panchen Lama usually finds or helps find the next Dalai Lama. Do you see the chinese motive now? I hope you do. The issue on who the real Panchen Lama is needs to be addressed. Me 02:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A reminder: Please keep your discussion within the topic. Calling Ran a Chinese nationalist while he abruptly denied it, and mentioning 'few examples' (which means some do not come from this article) is absolutely off-topic, and is personal attack. It does not help to improve the article. Aranherunar 03:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit by Ran June 2005 

message: You can read the following: 
# In October 1977, he was released but held under house arrest in Beijing until 1982.
# In 1978, after giving up his vows of an ordained monk, he traveled around China, looking for a wife to start a family.
It is not possible to travel around, when you are under housearrest!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.187.245.100 (talk) 14:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  house arrest + travelling around?

message: The article has a quotation from the last speech, but I have read the whole speech and I believe that the quotation is false. In the speech there is condemnation of the cultural revolution, but every word was politically correct, for me to see. No poisoned arrow. --86.221.81.139 (talk) 19:33, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The last speech 

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message: There's a record of meetings and visits and teachings and travels between the Panchen Lama and Jigme Phuntsok that creates a different story than the story portrayed in this page. These notable events begin in 1980 at Larung Gar then recur in 1987-89+/- as mentioned in the bio here. Adding the notable info to this page would also require adjusting the sections  - imo, which could use more NPOV titles. 
Thoughts? Thanks. Pasdecomplot (talk) 20:30, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Added info &RS. Pasdecomplot (talk) 12:36, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panchen Lama and Jigme Phuntsok 

message: The section on the daughter reads like heavy promo, and might conflict with no INHERIT policy. Thoughts on that also? Thanks. Pasdecomplot (talk) 20:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone should propose a page for her, due to INHERIT issues. Pasdecomplot (talk) 12:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The daughter and INHERIT