Talk:Woody Allen/Archive 1

message: === What about his writings? ===
He's written some books too. I'm adding three of them. -- Creativist
=== What about his plays?  ===
He's written some plays, one of which is "God" but I don't see them listed.  Here's a source:
http://www.doollee.com/PlaywrightsA/AllenWoody.htm
:These definitely need inclusion, especially Play It Again, Sam which was later adapted into a movie. Woody starred in that one but didn't direct it.--feitclub 19:01, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
:Almost all of them are gathered in his classic trilogy: Side Effects, Without Feathers, Getting Even. --BMF81 03:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: On his writings

message: He's written some plays, one of which is "God" but I don't see them listed.  Here's a source:
http://www.doollee.com/PlaywrightsA/AllenWoody.htm
:These definitely need inclusion, especially Play It Again, Sam which was later adapted into a movie. Woody starred in that one but didn't direct it.--feitclub 19:01, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
:Almost all of them are gathered in his classic trilogy: Side Effects, Without Feathers, Getting Even. --BMF81 03:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about his plays?  

message: The field were Allen has been a real master is humorism writings. Of course he's most known for his movies, but that's just because of cinema having a bigger audience.
I think there should be a big section about his classic trilogy (Side Effects, Without Feathers, Getting Even), where almost all his writings are gathered. Some facts to report: 
*he was particulary prominent in the comedy genres of parody (his most frequently used), satire, burlesque
*his writing were tecnically perfect (maybe need to say it a little more NPOV-ly), which made them still fresh today.
*his most frequently used Figure of speeches are: anticlimax, allusion and non sequitur
<BR>--BMF81 03:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing the most prominent aspect of Allen

message: The article claims "The Purple Rose of Cairo" to be Allen's favorite but I have heard that he has never publicly named one. Of course I have also heard "Love and Death" is his favorite. Does anyone have any sources concerning this issue?
:In interviews, he's stated both "Stardust Memories" and "Purple Rose" as his favorites.  I'm sure a quick Google search will show this. Eleemosynary 00:53, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  His favorite movie dispute 

message: Should Allen really be listed under 'Jewish American Actors", "Jewish Directors" etc.?  
I don't think he's Jewish.  That's just the character he plays in his movies.  In real life, he's an Athiest or an Agnostic or something . . . I think.
Can anyone confirm?
:: He may be secular, and so are most of his characters, but no-one makes more jokes about their Jewishness than Woody Allen. I presume he associates himself with general Jewish culture and upbringing, rather than the religion. The Singing Badger 00:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Jewish" is also a word used by Jews to describe Woody Allen. JonathanPenton 08:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish 

message: This page needs some major work (NPOV, timelines, facts). And while Allen's offbeat looks are certainly a part of his comedy, is this the best photo we can get? Eleemosynary 00:29, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree.  It is terribly POV AGAINST Woody.  Lets work on revising. Giles22 13:20, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page needs work 

message: Where did someone get the idea that Seamus has a "phobia" of Allen? It seems inappropriate and gossipy since it isn't even backed up by a source. The Mia Farrow page repeats the same story, while the Seamus Farrow page says nothing about it, and in this article Seamus is quoted as saying "I've looked at the facts and come to my own conclusions. I think the wisest thing is not to talk about it. I'm not angry or twisted in any way." I've replaced the "phobia" thing with a less contentious statement based on the above article--please don't put it back unless you can back it up with an equally reliable source. --The Famous Movie Director 08:59, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a reference for it.   The article (on cbsnews, cnn.com and others)said "phobic", not "phobia", making google searches difficult.  -Justforasecond 04:06, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. The article I quoted above (from Seamus' own mouth) seems to present a contrary view, but it's much more recent--I guess he's matured since age eleven. I think the "phobic" bit deserves a mention, so I've clarified about the age of the source. --The Famous Movie Director 06:26, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Makes sense. -Justforasecond 23:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allen's son Seamus Farrow 

message: Giles, you could have asked about that Soon-Yi statement you deleted.   It is printed somewhere-out-there but it could take me half an hour to go dig it up.   What's the rule for stripping things out that are uncited?   -Justforasecond 05:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Soon-Yi deletion

message: The article says, "In 2002 Woody made a surprise appearance at the Academy Awards telecast – his first ever due to his intense dislike of Los Angeles." Can this be substantiated? He is, for example, in Los Angeles right now, where he's making a series of public appearances at Q&A screenings over the next few days promoting his latest film. 207.69.139.154 02:40, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd chalk it up more to his dislike of the Academy Awards instead of his feelings about LA.  Anyway, we shouldn't speculate without some sort of source, preferably a direct quote. Gamaliel 03:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Woody in Los Angeles Right Now 

message: While the Germans spell Konigsberg with an umlaut, Americans don't.  In semi-official Allen biographies the umlaut is now used.  The umlaut is silly and pretentious.Dinopup 23:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Umlaut

message: is it not fair to say that Woody Allen was influenced by Freud's psychoanalysis? Is it possible that we make one reference to this influence?
JMJ
I just don't think it belongs in that particular sentence with "literature, philosophy, and New York City."  Why do you think it should be included?  Because some of the characters are in analysis?  I don't really see any of Freud's ideas explored in the work. Giles22 15:47, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Psychoanalysis section added Justforasecond 16:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: psychoanalysis

message: i removed a fairly long quote from woody  in the 2000s section.   it's better to pick out the relevant parts of longer quotes and summarize them.  Justforasecond 18:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  extended quote removed 

message: I think we should add a filmography to this page, they are pretty helpful for browsing/navigating purposes.  If there are no objections I'm going to add one in the next few days. Estrose 17:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmography

message: This page needs a lot of work, but I removed a line from the subsection on his relationship with Farrow alluding to the plot of Manhattan, which seems to me pretty much irrelevant for one, and a clearly biased point of view, for another. It was, after all, the last sentence in the section, which seems to encourage readers to make a connection between fictional Tracy and Farrow's allegation of child abuse.
Themightybotox 04:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Revision

message: I strenously object to your additions to this article.  This topic is already sufficiently described without going into heavily biased and highly speculative details of a sole article - claims that even MIA FARROW herself did not make.Giles22 17:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Strenuously object?   None of these details are speculative.  A police detective and the well known Connecticut Magazine are cited here....both perfectly valid sources.   Apologies about the lack of references to source material -- Giles stripped them out a while back.  Justforasecond 21:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the earlier comments in this talk page.Giles22 21:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Giles, no other editors with this article on their watchlist thought this information unworthy.  The consensus is to keep it in.  I don't know why you are so intent on keeping things out unless "MIA FARROW" has said them, but if you insist, yes Mia did claim that Woody had abused Dylan.   Reputable sources are used here and there is no speculation -- just content from the magazine.   Justforasecond 23:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by [[User:Justforasecond]]

message: :Image:Estatua Woody Allen en Oviedo.jpg
I am just curious as to why they have a statue of him at Oviedo. Do they have statues of other famous people? Or, is Woody Allen really big there? -- Abid Ahmed 18:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new free image of Woody Allen 

message: Per a requested at WP:RfPP, I've unprotected this article. Hopefully you've been able to resolve your dispute and will refrain from edit-warring, but if not, I have the article watchlisted and will reprotect at the first sign of an edit war. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers -- Abid Ahmed 21:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotected 

message: The section on Allen's 2000 films is sprawling and I propose cutting it down. The long quote is nice, but it's not very readable and probably is best summarized and linked to. The references to Curse and Melinda and Melinda seem random and I've removed them here. My proposed edit: 
:After a number of films that floundered with critics and at the box office, Match Point (2005) was one of Allen's most successful films in the past 10 years. The film, set in London, starred starred Jonathan Rhys-Meyers and Scarlett Johansson. It earned more than $23 million domestically (more than any of his films in nearly 20 years ) and was nominated for an Academy Award. In an interview with Premiere Magazine, Allen stated this was the best film he has ever made.
:Allen, well-known for his love of New York, is in post-production on another film set in London,  Scoop, starring  Hugh Jackman, Ian McShane, Kevin McNally and Johansson. He recently announced that he was in pre-production for a third film there as well[1]. 
:Critical of the American film industry, Allen said, “I'm happy to work in London, because I'm right back in the same kind of liberal creative attitude that I'm used to." [2] European audiences have tended to be more receptive to Allen's films, particularly France, a country where he has a large fan base. He himself has said that he "survives" on the European market. 
Also, can we edit/archive this talk page... it's way too long-Krwarnke 00:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, however, i think we might as well keep the references to Curse and Melinda and Melinda for now. Getting rid of and summarizing that quote is a very good idea. -- Abid Ahmed 02:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I kinda like having the whole talk page in one place, but this de-protection seems to be marking a new chapter in Woody's article...archival could be appropriate.  Justforasecond 03:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits on Allen's 2000 films