Talk:Horizontal top-bar hive

message: I'd have to disagree with the statement in the "Location" section, about them not doing well in cold climates.  I know of top bar beekeepers in Casper, WY as well as many similarly cold places, including mine here in Southeastern Nebraska.  In my experience, they winter just as well as my Langstroth hives. Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wintering 

message: I think it is misleading to state that there is something unique about TBH causes them to not require a queen excluder and to imply that a Langstroth hive requires one.  I haven't used queen excluders in my Langstroth hives for the last 32 years.  They are not required at all, in any hive and I have always found them to be counterproductive.  You can do without them in a TBH for the same reason you can do without them in a Langstroth hive.  The bees want a consolidated brood nest.  They are not looking to scatter brood everywhere. The fact that there is the amount of drone brood that the bees require in the brood nest (due to not using foundation) does contribute to a consolidated brood nest. Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen Excluders 

message: I don't know of any beekeepers who have tried both who have reported any difference in the amount of attachments on the sides of the hive.Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  KTBH vs TTBH 

message: I'm sure it would stir up a lot of controversy to say so, but I find natural comb to be a sufficient deterrent to Varroa as well.  http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varroa Control 

message: Perhaps a section on Top Bar Hive management would be helpful?  Of course every beekeeper uses different techniques, so staying objective gets complicated, but the three issues I would point out are:
o  The need for frequent harvesting to keep space in the honey area open.
o  The need for empty bars in the brood nest during prime "reproductive" swarm season to expand the brood nest more and prevent swarming.
o  The need to have the cluster at one end of the hive at the beginning of winter (at least in Northern climates) so they don't work their way to one end and subsequently starve while leaving stores at the opposite end.  This is easily done by simply moving the bars containing the cluster to one end and putting the bars they replaced at the other. Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Management 

message: http://www.bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm Michael Bush 12:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

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thread_title:  Links normally to be avoided 

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thread_title:  Advertising and conflicts of interest 

message: The top-bar hive has gained acceptance in several countries of Africa, and is even used in the United States. Unfortunately it does not conform to the laws in many states including the USA, where Langstroth removable frame hives are required. Because of the importance of managing the many diseases and insects that now infest honeybees in the USA, it is more critical than ever that standard Langstroth equipment be used for brood chambers. However, the use of the Greek top-bar (GTB) principle for honey supers need not be excluded. The top-bar wooden hive body can be adapted to the dimensions of the standard Langstroth hive (SLH), and, as long as a queen excluder is placed between the brood chamber (SLH design) and the GTB hive body, honey comb can be drawn by the bees and the honeycomb removed at time of harvest. It is a less expensive way to provide space for the bees to make honey. However, the beekeeper should not forget that it takes 8.3 lbs of honey to make 1 lbs of bee's wax.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.225.10 (talk) 22:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality in USA 

message: I have trouble with the logic of honey being able to reduce local pollen allergies.  Allergenic pollens are from wind-pollinated plants (grasses, ragweed, trees) not from insect-pollinated plants whose pollen bees collect.  Goldenrod is wrongly blamed because it grows (and flowers) with ragweed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.59.152 (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pollen allergies 

message: Oh, I wish we could move the mention of the Greek hive to a separate page, because it has practically NOTHING in common with the Kenyan or similar top-bar hives.  So, it uses bars, but that's the only similarity.  However, that is for later.  For now, I've termed the Greek one "short" and the Kenyan one "long".  Of course, mention would have to be made eventually of other long hives that show similarity with the TBHs (particularly with regard to the method of beekeeping), e.g. Dartington and Golz. -- leuce (talk) 21:58, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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