Talk:HMS Affray (P421)

message: I would be very grateful if you could do this! I have attempted to do this before on another article & encountered all sorts of problems. I think the part under the crew list needs to be re-aligned as well, & I am not an experienced enough wikipedian to do so.(Khan 01:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added the image to the page under 'fair use'. I haven't done anything about the white glare in the picture as I'm not sure if it's a photographic flaw or the submarine's diesels starting. I'll see what I can find out about the formatting problem. Ian Dunster 12:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: I thought I knew everthing about this sub, not its motto. Anyone? (Khanada 09:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: I have stated that HMS Affray is possibly still partly dry inside, I have heard conflicting opinions by two experts. Does anyone have any idea if after almost 60 years it would be fully flooded or not?(Khanada 04:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dry Inside? 

message: At the time Affray went missing it was such big news in Britain it relegated the Suez Crisis to page two of the national newspapers.
Surely the Suez business occured five years later, or am I missing some early detail of it? Bastie 05:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suez Crisis 

message: Why wasn't this submarine raised? I mean 86 meters depth is not particularly difficult, huge german warships have been raised at Scapa Flow already back in the 1930's, the british had a lot of salvaging experience. In fact they could have refurbished it after the raise and have it serve again, as immoral as it sounds. Yet a big submarine was an important and expensive asset at the height of early Cold War (while Korean War was going on and Stalin in power).
I have wondered that myself, the Royal Navy certainly had the ability to do it and as they had other Amphion boats in service an inspection of Affray may have saved another of the same type from a simliar disater.(Khanada (talk) 02:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why left down there? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:HMS Affray P421.jpg

message: How is this article classified as B class? There isn't a single reference in the entire article. There are some serious problems here with this rating. Parsecboy (talk) 17:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  B class? 

message: Differing sources contradict each other over the tapping sound; one states it was morse code saying "we are trapped at the bottom", the other states it was thought to be from the trapped submariners, makes no reference to morse code or any message conveyed and concludes it to be from other boats. These could refer to different noises detected separately, but it seems unlikely and I have been unable to find any sources that clarify this. (Both sources are referenced in "the search" section) H1898 (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tapping" heard  

message: This is wrong. Surely that is HMS Sidon in 1955 Mariegriffiths (talk) 18:21, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Royal Navy Submarine to be Lost at Sea 

message: Moved from article as WP:Memorial
;Officers and men lost in HMS Affray
Abbreviations used
:(E) - Engineer
:E.R.A. - Engine Room Artificer
:C.E.R.A - Chief Engine Room Artificer
:Elect - Electrician
:Stwd - Steward
:A.B. - Able Seaman
:L/Sea - Leading Seaman
:P.O. - Petty Officer
:C.P.O. - Chief Petty Officer
:Mne - Marine
* Lieut. J. Blackburn D.S.C.	
* Lieut. D.J.J. Foster
* Lieut. J.L. Greenwood	
* Lieut. (E) J.H. Alston
* Lieut. R.N.V.R. R.C. Lansberry	
* Lieut. (E) F.M. Shaw
* Lieut. (E) J.M. Treleaven	
* Lieut. (E) O.H. Allen
* Lieut. (E) A.G. Welch	
* Lieut. (E) M.C. Cole-Adams
* Senr. Comm. Eng. W. Bilton	
* Sub. Lieut. W.F. Linton (Son of J.W. "Tubby" Linton  VC. C.O. of HMS/m Turbulent lost in Med in WW2)
* Sub. Lieut. R.J. Preston	
* Sub. Lieut. J.G. Strachan
* Sub. Lieut. W.A.C. Longstaff	
* Sub. Lieut. R.F. North
* Sub. Lieut. R.T. Tugman	
* Sub. Lieut. A.G.C. Rewcastle
* Lieut. W.J. Kirkwood	
* Sub. Lieut. C.I. MacKenzie
* Sub. Lieut. R.P. MacKenzie-Edwards	
* Sub. Lieut. A.A. Frew
* Sub. Lieut. R.G. Howard-Johnston	
* Sub. Lieut. A.R. Garwood
* Sub. Lieut. H.A.H. Nickalls	
* Tel. A. Irven
* L.S.M. W.J. Green
* S.M. B.P. Gostling	
* S.M. J.D. Smith
* S.M. N. Temple	
* S.M. R.J. Cardno
* Stwd. D.B. Beddoes	
* Stwd. R. Vincent
* A.B. P.R. Pane
* Cook F.R. Smith
* L.E.M. H.J. Wood	
* A.B. G.W. Leakey
* L/Sea. R.B.B. Smith
* L/Sea. G.D. Cook
* E.R.A.2. D.R. Bennington
* S.M. F. Drury
* A/C.P.O.(S/m) A.H. Burberry
* A/Elec. F.C. Denny
* A/P.O.(S/m) J.G. Thirkettle
* A/L.S.M.J. Miller
* S.M. R. Curry
* S.M. Oliver Alfred Maynard Bridges
* S.M. W.D. Lewis
* P.O. J.H. Cooper
* A/R.E.J. Rutter
* L/Stwd. J.B. Barlow
* E.M.I. E. Horwell
* Tel. H. Gittins
* E.R.A.2. G. Parker
* P.O. W.R. Harkness
* P.O.Tel. F.G. Woods
* S.M. L.E.S. Harris
* A/P.O. D.H. Pearson
* C.P.O.S.M. R.A. Whitbread
* A/L.S.M. V.G. Trimby
* L.S.M. G.T.E. Ashley
* S.M. A. Ramplin
* S.M. R.G.G. Hiles
* S.M. G.R. Larter
* S.M. J.E.A. Hodges
* E.M.I. D.G. Bartup
* A.B. A.J. Stewart
* A/L.Tel. B.J. Worsfold
* E.R.A.3. N.C.E. Lees
* C.E.R.A J.L. McKenzie* 
* E.R.A.3. M.G.E.C. Taylor
* Mne. A.H.G. Hooper (SBS) R.M.
* Mne. D.W. Jarvis (SBS) R.M.
* Sgt. T.J. Andrews (SBS) R.M.
* Cpl. E.N. Shergold (SBS) R.M.
 87.242.223.122 (talk) 10:42, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved from main article as per Wikipedia policy [[WP:Memorial]]