Talk:Craig Chaquico

message: Hello Wikepedians I restored Chaquico's "notable" guitars that were removed for reasons of not being "custom." I did this after reviewing other guitarist's pages and noticing that they also, listed non-custom guitars, as in "stock" guitars. Guitarists have favorite guitars that they use often in performances and are not always "custom" but are "notable" because of a particular sound or nuance the artist desires in performance or recording. Eric Clapton, and Billy Gibbons among others. list non-custom, favorite guitars of note in their info boxes.Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 22:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer is to delete the other non-notable guitars that you see in other biographies. The instructions at :Template:Infobox_musical_artist#notable_instruments tell us to list only notable models or custom instruments that are "strongly associated" with the artist. The stolen Sunburst is certainly associated with Chaquico, and so are the custom models. Binksternet (talk) 00:04, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacing deleted "notable" guitars in info box. 

message: , I'm going to need to see something in a reliable source that calls him something like that or it's unduly focussed on something that isn't really important, and especially not for the lead. Why are we even saying this? Let's discuss. Per policy at WP:ONUS, the editor who wants to include content needs to prove why we need this content. Frankly if it were me, I'd not want this said about me because it seems kind of pathetic and defensive. I feel like it almost sounds like it should be followed up with "...and was not just some replacement guy!" —valereee (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ETA: I also find it very troubling that this is the exact wording he himself uses in his website bio. —valereee (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Valerie, I see your point. It does sound a little defensive. I'm not seeing "orginal founding member", but definitely founding member is sourced. How about saying something like, "Chaquico was a founding member, lead guitarist and songwriter for Jefferson Starship and Starship." 
Here are some sources:
1.Craig Chaquico, a founding member of Jefferson Starship and the only musician to perform on all 10 of their albums, on Aug. 11 secured from U.S. Magistrate Judge Maria-Elena James in San Francisco a decision greenlighting a cause of action of what his lawyers said was the core claim over use of the legendary band name.
https://www.law.com/therecorder/almID/1202795545627/Jefferson-Starship-Founders-Breach-Suit-Cleared-for-Takeoff/?mcode=1202617072607&curindex=3&slreturn=20210413134047
 
2.A founding member of Jefferson Starship filed a lawsuit Thursday to stop some of his former bandmates from using the band's name for upcoming performances and merchandise.
Guitarist Craig Chaquico is asking a judge to prevent a new iteration of Jefferson Starship from using the name in the federal lawsuit filed in San Francisco. He claims the group has been using the Jefferson Starship name without permission, and has used his image to promote shows through early 2018.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7776286/jefferson-starship-co-founder-sues-bandmates-name
3. “Thompson had been pushing Paul and Grace for some time to start a new band…the seventh member of the new team, Craig Chaquico…”
Jeff Tamarkin, Got A Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane p. 266
 
If that is agreeable, I'll edit or if you have a better suggestion, please let me know. Thanks!Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 18:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

text: I don't think we need any of it. Grace Slick's lead doesn't mention she's a founding member. That's because it's silly. So, no. Please write shorter, I will not read walls of text. —valereee (talk) 18:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "original founding member" 

message: Quote from Chaquico in 2016, before filing his lawsuit: —valereee (talk) 20:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  JA/JS