Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Buffyverse task force/Archive 1

message: Due to their long history of writing both Buffyverse novels and comic books, I believe their works should be considered cannon events. The two of them have contributed more to the Buffyverse than many of the show's writers.
This would include the character "India: The Vampire Slayer" who was Buffy's predecessor and has appeared in both Holder's books and her Tales of the Slayer story.
To bad for the occasional Direct Canon Contradiction that they publish. Their work must be taken with a heavy grain of salt, if taken at all. -- Majin Gojira
Separate articles on non-canon or sub-canon work would be fine, and if anyone here wants to undertake that, go right ahead.  But as far as the actual universe is concerned, there are enough canon discrepancies in the two shows themselves.  Joss has said that the two shows "count" and all the rest is suplementary. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 17:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give a reference to Joss saying that? Thanks MosheZadka 05:42, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in a discussion on one of the forums that no longer exists, unfortunately.  Joss used to lurk the old forums and comment once a month or so, but the forums got moved. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 16:14, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canon, Christopher Golden and Nancy Holder 

message: Is anyone working on character formats?  A number of objections were raised to my suggested format (as seen on Doc), which is fine, but we definitely need one.  The format currently used on articles such as Xander's seems to me to be somewhat lacking:  half of his article is taken up by the "relationships" section. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 17:40, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character formats II 

message: See the /Characters page for my suggested character strategy. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 08:02, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character articles 

message: I have made a new infobox template for Buffyverse characters, as previously each page had loads and loads of code on it, this makes it much easier to edit the infobox later.
To add the infobox to a character article use the code, but replacing all the Buffy info with the info on that character:
I'm going to replace all the horrible coding on the character pages with this as well. --Cooksey 15:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone should really replace "kind" with something a little more...officious, if it is kept at all. Species would be a general enough status. - Majin Gojira
Species seems like a good name for it, I'll change it now. It will show up as species but when entering info it will have to stay as kind, so the re-editing of already converted articles isn't neccessary. Also if there are any other field names that you think would be good say so here, or add it yourself, but make it a voluntary one so it doesn't break the rest. --Cooksey 23:22, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

text: That works.  Thanks. --Chesaguy 01:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I thought about including affiliation, but I thought it would get very complicated, what with people constantly switching allegiances, so I didn't bother. --Cooksey 22:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not to mention all the trouble we'd have to name those groups without official names (like Angel's team in Season 5, or Adam's followers), specially considering we already debate over official names.--Gonzalo84 17:03, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Added character affiliation to the Character Infobox Template. In case the character is a minion/lackey we can just place the name of the character they work for. For example, The Beast's affiliation could be listed simply as "Jasmine" or "minion of Jasmine".--Gonzalo84 17:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Infoboxes 

message: There is a stub article Gingerbread (Buffy episode) which is listed on Vfd and may require rescuing..., although the consensus is currently keep --TimPope 18:29, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks -Che
--Allycat 11:59, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VFD

message: Angel episodes are up on the /Episodes page.  My personal feeling is that Angel episodes are probably secondary to Buffy episodes, but feel free to work on any episode you like. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 22:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how anyone could interpret the Buffyverse (or Whedonverse) without Angel. I say they're just as important. I think Angel deserves special attention even, as only very few of its episodes have pages, whereas most of Buffy's important episodes are done. --Allycat 11:59, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tbe only reason I would say "secondary" is that they are, over all, less well known than Buffy episodes.  They aren't less significant, by any means; just less popular. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 20:57, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, by no means should an encyclopedia be based on popularity, should it? Significance should matter more, if you ask me. Besides, I would like to argue that significant Angel episodes like 5.22 are more popular then certain "lesser" Buffy episodes. --Allycat 09:05, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episodes, Angel I 

message: Most of the Angel episodes don't have pages, I was going to add stubs for some of them at least; should I use the whedon-stub marker, so that they go into the Buffyverse stub list?
Also the episodes that do exist could do with cleaning up a lot, especially the infoboxes, which seem to be horribly broken.--Cooksey 11:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episodes, Angel II 

message: Wikipedians seem to find it challenging to know what should or shouldn't be considered a spoiler when it comes to a long-running TV series.  Perhaps project members might find it interesting to contribute their insights on this subject to Wikipedia talk:Policies and guidelines#Spoilers...66.167.253.58 07:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a spoiler?