Talk:Okinawan kobudō

message: The discussion is not only a matter about weapons of Okinawa from the twentieth century because the term kobudō refers also to the description of a moral concept from the feudal Japan. 
According to Donn F. Draeger, 1974. Modern Bujutsu & Budo. , p.135:
::"The term ko budo, ancient martial ways," is a generic term coined in the twentieth century. It may be used to describe collectively all Okinawan combative systems, but it is more accurate to say 'Okinawan ko budo,' in order to distinguish them from Japanese ko budo (the classical bujutsu and budo), hich are entirely different and basically unrelated systems. The use of the term ko budo should not be limited, as it popularly is, to the describing of the ancient weapons systems of Okinawa."
For you information the concept 'ko budo' is described in Donn F. Draeger, 1973. Classical Budo. . Draftbooks (talk) 11:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of kobudō and Okinawan kobudō

message: The merge tag has been sat here for quite some time now, with no opinion offered.  In my opinion the two should stay seperate since Kobudo is often used as a general term for weapons work, whereas this page is clearly to something more specific. Kcordina 10:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer to see them remain separate, but no great harm would be done by merging them. JJL 14:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed the merge tag. JJL 02:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  removed corisponding tag from kobudo  Nate1481 00:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: The following paragraph seems speculative/self-edifying:
*Contrary to popular belief and martial arts myths, Okinawan weapons were not derived from farm implements. Peasants would not have had the time or energy to devote themselves to studying farm tools for martial use. Secondly, an anxious commoner armed with clumsy farm tools would not fare well against a trained professional warrior with a variety of well made weapons at his disposal.
At the very least, references should be made to outside material that illustrates specific examples to support the broad assertations: text which chronicles 1)the evolution of Okinawan weapons; 2)the typical breakdown of a peasant work-day/week; or 3)historical record(s) of peasant inability to defend themselves against better equipped warriors would all be good examples.
If the generalizations cannot be supported, the paragraph should be removed.
:: And according to Wonder Okinawa a website about Okinakawan karate and Kobudo published by the Okinawa Prefectural Government and featuring contributions by ALL the major modern day Okinawan masters - this is also a totally incorrect conjecture. E.g. 
::*  "Muge, that is regarded as very close to the original form of nunchaku, was based on part of a horse's harness used by farmers."
::*  "Tekko was originally a type of horseshoe. It is said that farmers kept one always to hand and it could be a very effective tool in fighting any enemy immediately."
::* "The kama (scythe) was one of the most familiar pieces of farm equipment that could be used as a substitute weapon."
::* "It seems that the Okinawans devised the idea of using grain mill handles as Tonfa."
:: 84.67.176.127 21:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual Basis of Statements?

message: Kobudo kata talks about the kata of Okinawan kobubo but the intro reads as if Kubodo kata is an actual martial art.  It would put things in context if the articles were simply merged.Peter Rehse 04:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This merge makes a lot of sense. Another way to go would be to turn the Kobudo kata article into a "List of known Kobudo kata" article, linked from here. JJL 14:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[Kobudo kata]]

message: The result was merge with Okinawan weapons. -- Scott Alter 23:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that is a good idea. Anyone else? 66.215.4.48 21:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Okinawan weapons]] 

message: Since this article is about both Okinawan and Japanese styles that practice weapons, I think "Okinawan" should be removed from the title.  On the top of the Kobudo page would be a link to Koryū as "Another word used for Koryū, the old martial arts traditions found in Japanese islands." --Scott Alter 00:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okinawa developed its own arts both before the Japanese annexed it and the distinctive weapon styles, (tonfa etc) during the occupation when the inhabitance were not allowed to carry conventional weapons,this later spread to Japan (as did Karate), so title makes seance to me as the origins are in Okinawa. --Nate 15:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer it as is. The Okinawan and Japanese traditions are different. JJL 15:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to [[Kobudo]] 

message: I'm curious because ninja would disguise themselves as farmers and peasents, and using a weapon derived from a farming tool would be perfect for them.  In addition, ninja are often depicted wielding sai and kama.  Is there any historical basis for this?  I'm sure the weapons were likely brought over to mainland Japan at some point in Japan's history, so I've probably just answered my own question, but I'm just wanting to make sure. 142.26.133.248 (talk) 20:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Were any of these Weapons Actually Used By Ninja?

message: Hello,
I'm looking for a place to practice in L.A.  Where would I figure out how to find something?  While I don't think the article or talk page should directly advertise specific locations to learn, I think it should be more helpful in directing someone who is interested in the right direction.  Thanks. Tkjazzer 21:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where to learn in L.A. ? or a website for finding well respected locations to learn ? or world and national headquarters for various styles ? 

message: In the picture, it is not Bo! It is Jo or something like it, but not Bo! Bo’s height = user’s height, but in picture, it is short!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.19.204.165 (talk) 03:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture