Talk:Criminal justice system of Japan

message: This will change. Japan's criminal "justice" system is an absolute joke. It's nice to see weaboos coming in to support glorious mother Nippon, but this should be Japan's second greatest shame.
It's time to bring this mockery of justice to light. I will be watching this article closely, although I suspect my attempts to change it will be vehemently opposed by Japanophiles.69.9.214.60 (talk) 09:49, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: This article is written entirely from a fascist perspective

message: I do not think that this information belongs as a separate article. The title alone rings POV-biased to me, though it is interesting material and, if valid, would be valuable in another article. Where shall we put this? Judicial system of Japan? Criminal justice system of Japan? Juries in Japan? I am eager to hear others' suggestions. LordAmeth 11:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not too sure about this content, but Criminal justice system of Japan would probably be the best place if it is to be anywhere.    The second paragraph in particular appears to be POV.   Morwen - Talk 11:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. This would make a good section in the Criminal justice system of Japan article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I also agree.  This should be merged and unreferenced POV cleaned up. --ElectricEye (talk) 00:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge, congratulations to ElectricEye on recognising this little gem. SmithBlue 07:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Another reason to merge is the enencyclopedic POV title. imho of course. --ElectricEye (talk) 07:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've got a bias that makes the title look negative POV to me but for others it would be very positive POV - one Indonesian judge , to show his fairness, stated that he had never found an accused drug dealer not guiltly. 3 mistakes by the public prosecutor in every 10,000 cases - very impressive but still not good enough for the Toyota assembly line. (humour?) SmithBlue 08:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge from [[The Japanese Justice System and its 99.97% Conviction rate]] 

message: The recent edits claiming corruption in Japanese police need to have WP:VER verifiable and WP:RS reliable sources quoted with the material. Otherwise no reader or editor can tell if the material is accurate or not. Please discuss here before re-adding material without references. SmithBlue (talk) 01:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verifiable and reliable sources 

message: I noticed a problem within in the information about flogging given on
line seven. It says that a whole village could be flogged or put to death, but then does not go on to specify if they even did; or if so to what extent and how common it was. I find this to be an important bit of information because without it, the article could lead to a misconception rather than solid fact.
If you are reading this thank you for your consideration,
and I hope to see this remedied.
-Searchman  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.214 (talk) 06:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: Ln. 7 

message: It would seem as if large sections of this page were written by a non-English speaker.  There are several instances of subject-verb agreement errors.  I would suggest that a qualified editor revise this page to correct these grammatical errors.
 Question:I assumed and read, from Philip Reichel,"Japanese trials are not bifurcated"(2008). Yet, this article states that trial and sentencing are separate. Thebestest216 (talk) 05:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar and Syntax 

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message: It seems that many of parts of the article seem to use overly positive language, like "Innovative aspects of the codes notwithstanding..." or makes statements like: "However, most miscarriage of justice cases in Japan are, indeed, the results of conviction solely based on the confession of the accused." without providing context around how often those things happen. The conviction rate section is also a complete mess, but that is covered by an existing dispute.
Other issues include saying that: "Activists claim that the Japanese justice system..." without providing any context who they are, or if they represent a majority of people in Japan. 
The word safeguard is also used a lot without providing context on if the "safeguards" are effective or not.  Multilocus (talk) 20:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV Dispute, Initiated May 2019  

message: I found more recent statistics from Ministry of Justice (Japan) about rate of cases taken to courts and other cases suspended: https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c05401/order-in-the-court-explaining-japan%E2%80%99s-99-9-conviction-rate.html
I also found stats created by Nippon.com: https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c05402/citizens-on-the-bench-assessing-japan%E2%80%99s-lay-judge-system.html?pnum=2
Inserting the info citing above articles won't be easy without cleaning up the whole article itself. --George Ho (talk) 02:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  More recent statistical data 

message: The bulk of this page's wordcount is dedicated to defending a widely-condemned system, in no small part by repeatedly knocking down straw men. It's very nice that someone did all the research to produce an essay backing up their views, but this section is not fit to be on Wikipedia and It's been marked as such since 2011 with another tag added in 2015. This is a pretty huge problem, and at this point, since it's apparent no one is willing or able to rewrite it, I believe there's a real argument to be made regarding whether it's better to retain something which is informative but also propaganda vs removing the section entirely. I mean...would this section still be up if it was five thousand words defending the legitimacy of the CCP's identical conviction rate? Probably not. Autotechnica (talk) 19:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The huge section clearly written to advance a certain view, which has been marked as needing a rewrite for a decade 

message: The first entry on this page in a previous edition was ridiculous. The explanation that the reason why the conviction rate in court in Japan is 99% is because it depends on the confessions of the criminals was ridiculous. The fact that Japanese prosecutors only prosecute cases that are likely to be convicted and not many other cases is a fundamental knowledge of the Japanese criminal justice system. Many people seem unaware that Japanese prosecutors have strong authority to decide whether to prosecute a case or not.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I am of course concerned that Japanese prosecutors tend to rely on confessions for evidence of crimes. And scholars are analyzing it is increasing Japan's conviction rate. However most importantly, the biggest reason cited by scholars for Japan's 99% conviction rate is its low prosecution rate. Previous editions didn't start with that most important fact.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 11:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conviction rate