Talk:USS Defiant

message: :USS Defiant (NX-74205) -> USS Defiant
There are technically two other ships of the same name, but this one appeared in dozens of episodes while the other two only showed up about 3 times.  —Mulad (talk) 20:04, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
*Support. With one ship being so much more popular than the others it make sense to have that ship as the subject of a main article with the other two as sections within that article. --Theo  (Talk) 23:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move (May 2005)

message: I have since merged the articles USS Defiant (NX-74205) and USS Defiant (NCC-75633) into USS Defiant
 68.236.56.59 17:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles Merged

message: Presumably the special effects team started the design process by asking themselves, "what would the offspring look like if a dustbuster and a frisbee mated?"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.44.142 (talk) 22:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  What if... 

message: :USS Defiant -> USS Defiant (NCC-75633)
I'm curious as to why this article was moved to a title listing the later registry number when the prior title neatly avoided this (effectively functioning as a DAB page).  The prior ship had much more screen time.  If anything, perhaps this article title should be USS Defiant (Deep Space Nine), USS Defiant (DS9), USS Defiant (DS9 starships), or similar?  In any event, I'm tempted to move it to something more inclusive.  Thoughts?  E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 01:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a manual of style thing Fosnez 04:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move from [[USS Defiant]]

message: In the closing moments of endgame, one can see a Defiant class ship, can we assume that this was the Definat? Fosnez 04:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not unless someone from Star Trek says it was. Lots42 (talk) 10:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ending of voyager

message: :USS Defiant (NCC-75633) -> USS Defiant
* Oppose It should move to USS Defiant (DS9) instead. As the original defiant has appeared in two Star Trek shows and has a good amount of notability, and this article is about two separate ships, from the Deep Space Nine series. 132.205.45.148
: *Comment: I don't understand why the articles for NCC-75633 and NX-74205 were merged - aren't they different ships?  Gimmetrow 01:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, they are two completely different ships, of the same class, but even there the NX-74205 ship was a prototype test article, so isn't typical of the class. 132.205.44.134 02:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Not moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

text: For the record then, I withdraw my participation in this vote.  However, the only prior vote for move that I see was May 2005, a year ago.  If that is what you are referring to, you can't expect editors today to be bound by a year-old decision, even if you agree with it. You also could have expressed your view in this vote.  Gimmetrow 19:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested Move (May 2006)

message: Has anyone ever noticed how similar the Defiant is ,in shape to the Autobot's ship The Ark? Sochwa 00:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen something say the cartoon Ark was inspired by the defiant to look more like it.  Though I can't remember where. Someone should look into it – Saphseraph (talk) 08:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the original Transformers cartoon predates the Defiant by 15 years, no. oknazevad (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ark 

message: I don't see a reason to merge this article (so I "oppose" it..) - both class and show are notable and encyclopaedic. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 23:25, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not proposing to delete any content, I'm just suggesting it might be more coherent to have these treated in the same article.  This article already covers 2 out of 3 named Defiant-class starships, it's not much of a stretch to merge the paragraph about the Valiant in as well.  see WT:TREK.  Morwen - Talk 00:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: The image of the ship shows that "U.S.S." is painted on the hull, yet the article uses "USS".  Is there a Wikipedia convention for this, or should this be renamed from "USS Defiant" to "U.S.S. Defiant"?  --ΨΦorg 04:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  USS or U.S.S.? 

message: The article seems to be stating that Ron Moore doesn't get to say what is canon. I am very confused. Ron Moore was deeply involved in producing the show. Why can't he say what is canon? Lots42 (talk) 10:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Being 'deeply involved' is not the same as being sole author, and since the shows are essentially collaborative, no single person may define canon, not having sole control of the content.Epimetheus Rex (talk) 18:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused With Moore 

message: According to the Official Startrek.com entry "History of USS Defiant", the "new" Defiant, renamed from USS Sao Paolo, actually KEPT the old NX registry number. 
"...the same-class Sao Paulo was fully renamed and renumbered as an all-new U.S.S. Defiant. Despite going into production as a standard design, its experimental NX designation was never officially changed — even on this replacement." -- http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/features/documentaries/article/5378.html
--Kschang77 (talk) 02:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perhaps more fuel to the fire...  

message: I've posed a few questions at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Star_Trek#Starship_article_ruminations, and I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who has this article watchlisted. Thanks! --EEMIV (talk) 16:03, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Input requested 

message: I've just watched Season 4 Episode 7 of DS9 Starship Down, and it ends onboard Defiant with Sisko's suggestion that they go to a baseball game on the holodeck. Whereas in the article it states that there is no holodeck on ships of this class? Thoughts? Gavinio (talk) 00:03, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty clear from context he's talking about watching a game back on the station. Plenty of material in the series and from licensed materiala make clear there aren't recreational facilities like a holodeck on this shop. --EEMIV (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holodeck 

message: > In the Discovery episode "Despite Yourself", a Mirror Universe version of the Defiant is referenced.
That would be NCC-1764 (the one which was stolen, see ENT 4x18-4x19) not the one that was rebuilt by the Terrans.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.31.149.185 (talk) 13:08, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mirror Universe 

message: could you please fill in the source you meant for this ref name? Thanks. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:05, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That was ported in from another page, but there is other references for that point. No problem! Star Spotter (Talk)   21:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "autogenerated1" ref