Talk:JDate

message: Below is the article before Apeloverage's rewrite. Some of it might be useful for future additions.
JDate, launched in 1997, is an online personals wesite for Jewish singles. It has become the world leader in its niche, with active members in every corner of the globe and hundreds of documented marriages to its credit. JDate has become synonymous with Jewish online dating.
The brand name has become a verb (“I’m JDating this weekend”) and a noun (“I had a great JDate last night”).
JDate.com is a social networking system for single Jewish people, used worldly, but primarily in English.  The website is very similar to other online dating websites, but it offers the benefits for any people, specifically those looking to be in a Jewish relationship.  The website also offers a real-life identity and location, and lists different interests and what one is looking for in a partner.  The website was created in 1997 and has grown rapidly, bringing singles together all across the world.  There are over 12,000 registered men and women that are always online and looking to be in a relationship; this website happens to be one of the most heavily used websites for Jewish singles.
	Anyone who is willing to pay the cheap registration fee, and has some sort of personality factor to put into a profile can register for this website.  The site includes students, employees, retirees, and anyone who is single with access to a computer looking for love.  The site is financed by the people who are paying to search for companionship, whether it is just one date or a long-term relationship.  
	Users can create personal profiles with pictures, and tons of information about themselves including weight, astrological sign, and annual income.  Once a registered user, you can search for people within your zip code, and click on their pictures to flirt or email the person to then set up a date.  The viewing is restricted for those that are not registered, but very public to people who are willing to pay the fee.
--Apoc2400 13:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old version 

message: Rewrite based on the JDate website's material, plus a compilation of reviews from www.edatereview.com - which seems like an unbiased forum.
--67.169.168.127 04:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another attempt 

message: Everywhere it says that Jdate.com is the most expensive dateing site, should we not write that down? Alessio.aguirre (talk) 02:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find significant coverage of this fact in reliable sources to verify, then feel free to add it. Otherwise, please do not add it. Thank you. --CutOffTies (talk) 02:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price

message: JDate.com is commercial, which should rule out the less-serious people. But how good is this as a mean of finding a serious date?
Another remark. JDate is having a very aggressive advertising campaign
in Israel. They are paying the salary of Sarit Perkol, a section editor
in the online portal of the leading daily newspaper. Ms. Perkol is
apparently trying to maximize hits to her portal section and is using
means I never saw before. The portal section main subjects are extra
marital affairs, the slutty behaviour of Israeli girls and various
intimate items calculated to undermine self-confidence in both sexes.
It's strange that a matchmaking website is advertising in a way that
may make people stay bachelors but maybe JDate owners decided it's
good for business. Apparently Ms. Perkol succeed in getting a lot of
responses and a lot of hits. I think we are seeing here a relatively
new type of intentionally harmful kind of advertising. You may accuse
me of pushing a conspiracy theory but I start thinking that the porno
industry emphasis on penis size is calculated to invoke inferiority
feelings thus driving men away from real relationships and consuming
more porno products. 128.139.226.37 16:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How good? 

message: I've removed this yet again; because a list of links to competitors' websites offers no encyclopaedic information about the subject of this article.  Perhaps if there was a discussion of JDate's position in the dating marketplace, etc. (appropriately sourced) then this list may have some merit.  But on its own, it serves no purpose.  Oli Filth 23:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If thats the case what about the entry for Visto and I can find numerous other ones.  The list of competitors is very useful information for prospective users of the sites so they can find alternates as well as for investors who want to gauge what the competition is to the site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.208.140.244 (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Seems to me the competition section here had became a catch-all for any and every site claiming to do Jewish matchmaking. But without third-party corroboration, there is no way to know which are legitimate competition and which are fly-by-night. I agree with Oli Filth. Cite a notable source on the topic of Jewish dating websites--a well researched magazine article, for example.  That would provide some criteria for external links. To do otherwise amounts to OR (WP:NOR) Barte 21:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is not just an ad for Jdate.  It cites both positive and negative aspects of the site, uses third party references, and was vetted by the community (See Afd nomination tag at the top).  If you want to discuss competitors, that's fine and useful, but it can't just be your opinion (who are you?) but referenced to a neutral third-party source.  Otherwise, this is just unverified original research and the selected links appear to be promotional. Please read WP:NOR and, in particular, WP:linkspam, to see what I mean. Barte 16:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Competitor list 

message: While listing the negative BBB review of JDate is certainly relevant to the article, listing the positive review for a competitor is not. This article is not about all dating services (which would include both JDate and eHarmony, chemistry.com, etc), where it would be relevant to compare services by a neutral third-party source... and by the way, since eHarmony is a member paying the Better Business Bureau to join, and Spark Networks is NOT a member, it is dicey to claim that this is truly a neutral third-party source. Obviously with eHarmony paying a membership fee, BBB-Southland has more at stake with one company than the other. 
By comparing JDate unfavorably to a specific competitor, it does give the impression of trying to promote the specific competitor, eHarmony. That makes the summary more biased. I just happened to find this page when someone mentioned problems with JDate, but however bad a company they may end up being, that is no excuse for giving unfair promotional attention to their competitors. 98.194.237.126 (talk) 14:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed mention of eHarmony 

message: I removed a paragraph I added here years ago.....when I was new to the project.  Looking back, I agree with the template--it's OR--or at least wp:syn.  That left one paragraph about a rabbi sponsoring memberships....that hardly sounds like "cultural significance"--so I removed that too.  I think in the past, there were items in this section that would have passed for cultural significance--references to JDate in the popular culture.  But they've apparently been deleted for other reasons.  Barte (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural signficance--removed section 

message: I know absolutely nothing about this site, and came to Wikipedia to find out what it's about.  I was surprised to read an article which seems entirely biased and designed to critique the site. There has to be a better way to present this.  Perhaps the lead section could define the site and its purpose, and if objective outside sources tend to be harshly critical of the site, then the lead can reference that fact, with a later section detailing the critiques by outside sources. If there is controversy, any outside sources which present positive views should also be presented.
Whose opinions are being presented in this article. While it doesn't use emotionally charged language, it still appears as unsourced original research, presenting a personal critique disguised as "objective" reporting.
The site might absolutely suck, by the way, and I'm not inclined to check it out, but the current presentation of this article takes such a form that it might as well use "JDate is a site that sucks" as its lead. It would be overtly biased an unencyclopedic, but that's fundamentally what he have right now. zadignose (talk) 00:50, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slanted Article, OR: Overt critique of site, doesn't read as objective 

message: Apparently they have gone after other companies in a patent troll fashion, or JSwipe because of the "J" prefix (link) CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 03:25, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuits