Talk:Bullet in a Bible

message: Anyone else notice the package art for BIAB is incredibly similar to that of Warning, and should that be mentioned?
:How so? Underwater 14:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities to Warning 

message: The article doesn't seem to mention extras included on BIAB.
:thats because there were barely any.
::There was at least one; the photo reel with the instrumental version of Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Should that be included? --Thatguykalem (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other features 

message: No man can eat 50 eggs!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.178.106 (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOL 

message: why was this part of the article removed? Does anybody know? I know it doesnt relate to the dvd release itself, but is surely still relevant? Bigwiver (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms of the event 

message: I seem to remember that there was a list of songs omitted from the album and the DVD. Anybody know where that list went? I think that it should still be in the article. What do you guys think? --Thatguykalem (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omitted Songs 

message: When I Come Around was not played at any of the two shows, and there was no source for it, so i removed it. --Chickenguy12 (talk) 10:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  When I Come Around? 

message: Why does someone keep adding the omitted songs to the track list? i think it's better to have a section for them instead of adding them to the track list and just putting (not shown) next to them, somebody please stop changing it. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 08:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly agree. It's silly. It's a track listing for a live album, not a concert setlist.--90.212.181.118 (talk) 17:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unless you can reliably source the original set list, then it cannot be included. Nouse4aname (talk) 14:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

text: YouTube videos do not prove anything. They are not considered reliable sources. Find a review by Rolling Stone, NME, MTV etc and you may be getting somewhere, as it is, the set list remains unreferenced. As for the greendayvideos website, then it is just laughable if you think that is considered a reliable source. It is a fan site, and is in no way suitable for referincing the material. Seriously, what is so hard to understand about sourcing the material properly? Nouse4aname (talk) 12:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Omitted songs do not belong in a tracklist because they are not part of the album. This is not a setlist of Green Day's performance, it is a tracklist of the album. It's typical for a live album not to include every single song an artist performed at the concert(s) where the album was recorded, since a CD has only ~80 minutes of playing time. This is hardly noteworthy. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that they don't belong in a track listing, but they should at least get a mention under a separate section. I remember a time when another section was edited in and I was like, "Hey, that's a nice addition". 24.255.38.190 (talk) 04:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

text: This conversation is 8 months old, it's long over. The problem with "omitted songs" is that the information is (A) hard to reliably source, and (B) not very relevant. As I said back in January, most live albums don't include all of the songs performed at the concerts they were recorded at because the average CD only holds between 60 and 80 minutes of music. This is especially the case here, where the album is culled from 2 concerts (and it's not guaranteed that the setlist was identical at both concerts). If there were reliably-sourced content about what songs they left out and why (ie. something about the process of creating the album and editing the 2 concerts down to 1 CD), then that'd be something. But I doubt such sources exist; I haven't seen anything about how they went about creating this album other than the dates & locations of the concerts. There's usually more to the story of creating a live album than the soundboard guy simply hitting record: There's how they decided on the setlist, how they captured the sound of the crowd on record (there are several ways this is usually done), how they mixed and edited it, etc. And since this album also includes a DVD, there could be info on how they filmed it (how many cameras, what kind of filming technology, what angles it was shot from, how they lit it), the visual aspects of the concert (what was the stage show like? Was there a video component? Did they dress a certain way? etc.), and of course creating the actual DVD (editing, menus, packaging). These are all the kind of behind-the-scenes, making-of details that, if reliably sourced, would be very welcome. However, simply tacking on a list of "omitted songs" doesn't add much in the way of informational value. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:02, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding omitted songs to track listing

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