Talk:FanFiction.Net

message: A lot of the primary sources are either the primary source or no longer available. Wikipedia encourages editors to stray away from using only the primary source and to instead look to more credible and academic sources. Many of the other sources for this article are so out of date that they are no longer available from the link provided, such as the third source. I am going to go through and get rid of the sources that are outdated with the intention to find newer and more credible sources instead. I will also begin finding more sources to replace the information taken from the primary source of Fanfiction.net.
OsseusIgni (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The third reference on this page is no longer available and needs to be removed from the article. Clicking the link results in a 404 Page Not Found page. OsseusIgni (talk) 14:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I do not believe that either of these sections need to be included on this article, especially the long fan fiction works. Fanfiction.net is a fast moving website with new fanfictions posted everyday. These sections would both need a lot of upkeep as the information in them become outdated much faster than other data and research conducted. The content in both of these sections rely solely on the primary source of the website.
OsseusIgni (talk) 13:51, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post popular sections and Long fan fiction works 

message: There's a section FanFiction.Net#Notable fanfiction which lists fanfiction entries on the site with over 500,000 words. (There was previously another section with 100,000 words or more but deemed "popular" without reliable sources to back up, but I decided to bust that out on the spot for being definitely uncyclopediac). I was considering going WP:BOLD and deleting the section for being WP:FANCRUFT unworthy of being listed on a Wikipedia article (unlike List of longest novels, which is definitely interest of many people), but I decided to ask first. (And don't ever ask me about Sonic's Ultimate Harem.)  22:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made an attempt to improve the section, providing sources. O.N.R. (talk) 00:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that an article shouldn't rely on too many primary sources. Also, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 21:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we really need a list of "notable" fanfiction with over 500,000 words? 

message: I would like to know why you think information on most popular sections, list of longest fanfiction (table has been commented out for now), and disallowed fanfiction types are worthy of being on Wikipedia. I disagree because they rely on primary sources and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, making them likely WP:FANCRUFT. It's better to discuss here than engage in an edit war. (NOTE: Above section is obsolete, it was for a problem I previously tried to solve after submitting the section.) ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 20:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of primary-sourced information 

message: Hi, I'm a college student in Etherfire's technical editing class and I'm going to be editing this article for a bit. I'll make a sandbox draft for any major changes. 
 I agree that removing the notable long fan fiction works and replacing it with a more general section that links to other famous fanfiction that was originally hosted on the site makes a lot of sense. I did that as well as removing the top fandoms tables in my sandbox draft. Any other famous fanfiction that was posted on fanfiction.net you can think of? Editingpersona (talk) 19:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles also has a wikipedia page.  A good source of works which fans consider noteworthy is the Fanlore category, but there's no easy way to filter those for works which were published on FFN that I can see – and of course "noteworthy enough for a fan to write a fanlore article about it" is a much lower bar than "discussed outside of fannish spaces and therefore due weight for a wikipedia article".  I'll have a look at Anne Jamison's Fic: Why Fanfiction is Taking Over the World and see what is mentioned there.  It might also be worth seeing if any FFN works were included in Francesca Coppa's The Fanfiction Reader: Folk Tales for a Digital Age? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest fanfiction replacement 

message: So I have been editing the Site Content section in my sandbox draft and I've gotten it to the point where I think it is ready to be published. Since it's a fairly large edit, I wanted to make sure no one has any issues with it. Most notable changes I've made: 
Overall, I've tried to make the section similar to the site content/features section on the Archive of Our Own article. I've moved some information around and have also created two sub-sections - "Story Publishing" and "Reader Feedback." I have also removed the "Most Popular sections" because, in my opinion, the information there is WP:Fancruft; information I've added in the "Story Publishing" section should act as a reasonable replacement for this. 
The only sub-section I haven't edited is the "Longest Fanfiction" one. For now, my plan is to keep it the same because editing it is going to take a bit of time and research. In my sandbox draft, I made it its own section but I won't be doing this in the article. Editingpersona (talk) 19:27, 9 March 20L22 (UTC)
:Looks good to me. The only thing I'd note is that Wikipedia's style for section headings is sentence case (MOS:SECTIONS). Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Site Content Section changes 

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