Talk:Kriya yoga

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message: Page has been restored to how it was in 03 January 2006, before it has been littered with book exerpts and shameless self promotion of someone who is neither a Nath Yogi (no real sampradaya) nor a Kriya Yogi from the lineage of the Mahavatar Babaji mentioned in Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda.
Massive self-promotion page busted. See Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath
: I can surely agree to your reverting this page to the essence of Kriya Yoga. Priyanath 05:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest caution here, as YGS does teach something that he calls Kriya yoga. In this case, it would be rather hard to put it in a separate article. My suggestion would be to be a little flexible here and allow a brief reference. But here's a question, YGS teaches something called Hamsa yoga - shouldn't that have it's own article? And what is the relation in YGS's system between these two yogas - is his Kriya yoga part of his Hamsa yoga? or vice versa? or are they completely separate. Enquiring minds want to know... –Adityanath 06:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I think a very brief one reference (like a sentence) is ok, but the 'Undue Weight' given it by HD was, well, Undue, as I mentioned to him below. I'm happy to see the 'reset' button hit to get a fresh start on this bigger discussion, in which some of us were hoodwinked. See Wikipedia guidelines on Undue Weight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NPOVUW#Undue_weight. The discussion on YGS could begin again after some cooling off, over whether YGS view is a 'tiny-minority' flat-earth type view (see article), or just a minority view.-Priyanath 15:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 3 Version Restored 

message: This is a more informative edit.  I think it's better and we should keep it.  Any objections? unsigned message by User:Hamsacharya dan
:Yes, I object. Too many changes. Put additions related to YGS in a separate section. Do not change the rest of the article. That's my opinion. Also, wait for responses before making changes. —Adityanath 04:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly object. It's way too long in my opinion - and I added some of those words and quotes myself so I'm being objective. Let's keep it to the essence of Kriya Yoga. I'm also getting tired of the continual re-adding of the extreme minority POV about the Naths and YGS. Put it on those pages if the other editors there allow it, but there's no place for it here. Priyanath 05:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Adityanath and Priyanath. I know you still think I'm a sockpuppet, so feel free to ignore my opinion until proven otherwise. It's still two-to-one and you know what side NTF would be on, so... ---Baba Louis 23:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. Let's leave it in this format. However, I do have some qualms with the "other lineages" section, which I'll start in the next subtopic. Hamsacharya dan 02:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  keeping "expanded content edit" 

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Your recent edits are being reverted for a few reasons. For example, you deleted one of the 'Kriya Yoga Lineages' for no reason (Dr.Ashoke Kumar Chatterjee), and moved another one to the top of the list (Paramahamsa Hariharananda). Some of your other edits seem reasonable, but when you combine them with edits that are promoting one particular group, and demoting another, editors may not have the patience to sift through all your changes. This article has been the scene of recent controversy, so anonymous unexplained edits will tend to be reverted by different editors, especially when they violate the Neutral Point of View guidelines. Also, learn to use the talk pages to discuss your edits with others. An explanation may be all you need do to prevent someone from reverting. ॐ Priyanath 16:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there! Please compare the differences first before you revert. I have never deleted Dr. Ashoke Kumar Chatterjee under 'Kriya Yoga lineages.' What are you talking about? Also the former list did not follow any arrangement pattern for anyone to accuse me of demoting other lineages. In the external links section Self-Realization Fellowship was placed on top because it was the first established Kriya Yoga organization among the list, it was followed by three or for more others based on the dates they were founded. I have also added Center for Spiritual Awareness' website as well as Yogiar S.A.A. Ramaiah's, Håå Course Center, etc and corrected the links so that they point directly to the relevant pages. Please exclude me from your edit wars. --- ॐ Brahmachari Smith 16:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for responding, Brahmachari Smith. I did compare, and apparently didn't notice that you just moved Ashoke Kumar Chatterjee down the list, rather than deleting him - my apologies. Your reasons for your particular arrangement are somewhat arbitrary, but not important enough to make it an issue. But the fact that you communicated it here is notable and refreshing. I hope you didn't take offense at my suggestions to study Wikipedia, especially using the talk pages for communication. The reason I made that (friendly) suggestion is for the sole purpose of not having edit wars. The edit wars aren't mine, so I'm sorry that I can't exclude you from them. But you took a big step in keeping others from edit warring you, by following my advice above, "An explanation may be all you need do to prevent someone from reverting.." Communication works, see? I've reformatted the subject headings, since there was one that should be a subject head under your new arrangement. I also shortened them, since subject headings should be brief phrases, and not entire sentences. I also removed two extra line breaks that were introduced somewhere along the way. Thank you for communicating.  ॐ Priyanath 18:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: This one has been informed that a link to Swami Satyeswarananda Giri could not stay on the Kriya page (to avoid disambiguity) because His guru was Swami Satyananda Giri and thus would be in Lahiri Mahasaya's lineage. So this one would like the addition of Swami Satyeswarananda Giri under those 'That source their lineage to Lahiri Mahasaya'. However, Swami Satyeswarananda Giri is also a direct disciple of Mahavatar Babaji and has written about these encounters in His published works relating to Kriya Yoga. So not sure where that would fit in exactly in this article. Swami Satyeswarananda Giri should also be included in the Kriya Yoga Teacher section. He has no organisation as far as this one is aware, but is a bona-fide Kriya Teacher/Master verified by tradition and lineage. It are through His published works that many actually know about Lahiri Mahasaya's lineage and its development.213.106.1.25 11:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Inclusion of Another Lineage