Talk:Heavy metal fashion

message: It strikes me as odd that any description of a fashion adopted by enough people to merit an encyclopedia article---inclusion justified by assertions that the style is "popular" or a "trend"---can be described in the same breath as "non-conformist," etc. Such remarks really have to go.Dpmath (talk) 06:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Non-Conformist"

message: A trend can be non-conformist. It is that way because the majority of society does not accept it as 'normal', and it began in the underground.
However after the 90's it exploded and became mainstream. this mainstream acceptance was still not considered  as the 'norm'.
Also, why is there no mention of women's metal fashion? Lita Ford would be a good (classic) example.. (wiki user)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.42.81 (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Add Women's fashion

message: This page finally has its first cited source, regarding the inspiration for Bob Halford's fateful turn to leather/motorcycle fashion in 1978.Dpmath (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bob Halford

message: This article needs more pictures. Fabio Lione is good for a fan of power metal. Doppelganger 23:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: are studded belts acceptable? i see a lot of metalheads wearing them nowadays.
No not really. It's been way to commercialized. Most "scene" kids or Hot Topic goers are the ones who use them, and the typical music most of them listen isn't really metal. However, studded bracelets (leather), gauntlets and the like are acceptable.
::Studded belts are entirely acceptable, though they are more likely to be attributed to hardcore fans, it's still quite promenant in Black and Death metal scences, but not as famous as bullet belts. ≈ Maurauth (nemesis) 15:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes they do, not only does metalcore derive itself from hardcore and therefore have crossover fans, but many of my friends like hardcore music and wear studded belts and those stupid trucker type army caps. I also play guitar/vocals in a hardcore band and stil love to wear bullet belts and Burzum t-shirts, so you can hardly say that all fans of a certain genre dress that way. ≈ Maurauth (nemesis) 10:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I love the insinuation that bad metal bands become hardcore since it's easier to play. ≈ Maurauth (nemesis) 18:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ? 

message: I'm a 13 year old kid that is really getting in to the metal culture , but I need some 'real' metal clothes (I only got normal clothes), so can somebody tell me what a basic metal outfit is and where I can get/buy most of them ? And btw , is it good to wear a black t-shirt without a brand or metalband ?Chibi kain 20:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is generally acceptable. A good way to start is to go to eBay, buy some band shirts, and get some tight blue jeans. A basic metal outfit is described in this article... Doppelganger 20:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  black t-shirt 

message: That doesn't sound right to me. It sounds too goth for black metallers. I'm erasing that statement from the article unless someone can give me proof that it's true. I haven't met a female black metaller but I doubt they wear that kinda clothing.
::I've only ever met a few females who likes black metal.  They all dressed the same as guys did basically.  Band shirts and jeans.  They weren't goth at all, which is completely gay. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Female black metal fans wearing Victorian or Medeival dresses 

message: I have now reworded this to make it gender NPOV, it was totally relevant to both sexes not just females - so it now indicates a proper passage of speech. --Lemons&Limes (talk) 18:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fashion part at bottom 

message: Seriously.  This article is full of POV and OR.  When I get a chance I'm gonna do a comprehensive rewrite and what not.  I'm gonna be deleting a lot of stuff probabaly and changing a lot of bullshit.  This article is completely wrong in a lot of regards. It really sucks. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: SHIT!  I can't even deal with this.  This article is so horrible I can't start anywhere.  Most of it is wrong, and there's a ton of POV and OR that I can't handle.  It's time to destroy it. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is bullshit...and total shit as well 

message: This is arctile is should be deleted.Metal heads some follow the fashion and others don't care.Metal is very diverse.It doesn't follow any look  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.93.250 (talk) 01:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will move your comment to the AfD page. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detele this article  

message: This article seems like it was written by a bunch of nu metal and possibly metalcore fans.  It's describing them more than anything else in many sections...idiots. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nu metal 

message: I'm about to delete almost every single section of this article due to its original research, falsities and lack of sources backing up anything' it says.  Some of the material in here is ridiculous. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just so everyone knows 

message: I think this fashion exists.perticutly the die hard Norwegian black metal fans often wear all black.I was wondering adding a paragraph about it rather than the article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.93.250 (talk) 09:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black metal fashion 

message: Come on now, seriously, mead horns? Aside from some folk/viking band posing with them for a photo, I doubt this is part of the average metal fan's attire. I haven't seen many people carrying mead horns around. In fact, most Amon Amarth and fans of folk and viking metal are fans on the periphery of metal who dress far more normally than what is expected of a metal fan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.92.235 (talk) 09:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because that's original research and should be deleted.  Feel free to do so. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 00:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mead horns? 

message: This article should be deleted.  No one is doing any work on it.  Plus metalhead already has a fashion section. *waits patiently for everyone to rush over to that article and ruin it as well* 76.105.51.176 (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. It is a notable aspect of metal music. Just because it may be sloppily writeen from your perspective doesn't make it worthy of deletion. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 22:59, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stinking pile of crap 

message: Can we please delete this article? I'm horrified that anyone might view and actually believe a single thing in the article. I convulse just at the mere thought of someone viewing this page and thinking it's anywhere near the truth. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 23:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Deleting this article, although apparently your fervent desire, would not be of use to our users, who will come to Wikipedia wishing to learn more about this subject. We must keep our users foremost in our minds, as editors of WP. Although, like any other WP article, this article may be improved, blanking or deleting is simply not the answer (for whatever reason you wish to do so). Badagnani (talk) 19:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not delting it. I am deleting all the original research. You are in blatant violation with what you just said of wikipedia rule. Please read [[WP:V]. You are right that we must think of the users first. Which is why all the OR has to be deleted out of this article. It has to be verified. We cannot allow users to view misinformation. There is no argument here. I've been through similar issues. I know which is the right side. Right now that's mine. I;ve had whole article deleted before down to a few sentences because of OR. Because it needs to verified with reliabel sources. We cannot allow users to view misinformation because of wikipedia. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

text: On the contrary, there was a great deal of uncontroversial basic information, as well as sourced text (with external link) summarily blanked without discussion. That is highly improper and not helpful to our users. Badagnani (talk) 20:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, on the contrary, "there was a great deal of uncontroversial basic information," is your POV. This article has ONE source. Yes, I deleted it as I had to delete everything else (incl. the things that brought up that sentence) as OR. I did discuss it. I warned that I would do this a while ago. And per WP:V I can do it. You are disservicing our users and you will probably be blocked. You are on the wrong. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:V states, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—meaning, in this context, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true." Which means I can delete most of this article and the metalhead article and I will be doing wikipedia and its readers a service. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: Badagnani (talk) 23:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's back72.78.7.207 (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text removed from article, 20 May 2008 

message: I think this article needs a bulletin list of elements in the metal fashion like the punk rock fashion page does. 68.102.235.239 (talk) 04:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List 

message: This article is terrible. Whomever wrote this seems to think metal fashion hasn't change since the 80's. Maybe because I live in Australia means I'm not exposed to the 'typical' metalhead attire but all the bands that play around here wear a simple dark coloured t-shirt and dark coloured pants/shorts. No leather, no ultra-tight jeans, no spikes. I'm going to begin re-writing the article in a few days so I thought I'd put a section up in the talk page before I change anything. Happy Mr Adrian (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about Australia, but in Europe, things haven't changed much since the '80s.  We still wear leather and spikes, band t-shirts, all of that stuff.  There's been some adoption by younger fans of nu-metal/grunge attire, so baggy clothing managed to make it's way in, but anybody who gets properly into "real" (haha) metal ends up ditching all of that for the tight jeans, bullet belts, all-black clothing (maybe camouflage cargo trousers), and so on.  There are guys I know who dress proper thrash, even twenty five years on, with the blue denim, white high-tops, cut-off tshirts etc.  I guess we're all nostalgic for a time when most of us weren't even born yet!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.45.89 (talk) 01:29, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: This article should have a "Different styles" section that lists different style of metal fashion by sub-genre just like the Punk fashion page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrlenny94 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fashion by metal sub-genre.