Talk:John Manley

message: If this discussion has already taken place elsewhere, please forgive this question: Why is the article entitled "John Paul Manley" instead of "John Manley"?  HistoryBA 00:29, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: John Manley is a disamb. -b 15:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, about that... maybe it shouldn't be anymore.  There are four JM's in Wikipedia; two are very brief articles, one is the politician, and the other is an American naval officer from the 18th century.  I'm thinking that this page should sit at John Manley, with the current contents of that page put to John Manley (disambiguation). -Joshuapaquin 03:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  John (Paul) Manley 

message: "Manley is regarded by some as being from the centre-right of the Liberal party, favouring fiscal conservatism, although his budget included substantial spending."
This sentence is POV. Spending and "fiscal conservativism" are not antithetical - it depends on the kind of spending. Most so-called fiscal conservatives are capable of quite vast spending in the form of subsidies, tax breaks, etc. for corporations, but spend little on social programmes. If the distinction that is intended here is that, while creating a pro-corporatist budget he nevertheless supported social programmes, that should be stated - and supported with references, if true. Pinkville 01:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Canadian political parlance, tax cuts are not generally considered "spending" because they're a decrease in revenue rather than an increase in expenditure.  Anyway, I'll amend that to "substantial program spending" to make the distinction clear. -Joshuapaquin 06:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per request, everything seems to be in order here. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Political ideology

message: :Add  * Support  or  * Oppose  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
* Support as nom. -Joshuapaquin 05:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I did a Google search of (Canada free trade agreement negotiations Geac computer metropolitan Life Rockefeller) and clicked on a link that explained some interesting things, then another one entitled "The Unhived Mind -> Just who is Mel Hurtig?"
In the information presented was a quotation from a Hurtig news paper article about foreign investment in Canada.  Hurtig identified that over 2% of foreign investment in Canada was for new ventures and the remaining over 97% was for takeover of Canadian businesses by foreign corporations. 
Hurtig claimed this wave of investment was triggered by huge Canadian funding / tax incentives introduced by the Liberal Party of Canada, and that the majority of branch plant companies import more components, layoff and downsize, etc, amounting to a net negative on employment and balance of trade, not to mention foreign control of the country.  When the article was written, key mention of "this takeover of Canada policy" was initiated by John Manley when he outsourced a study of the benefits of foreign investment in Canada to a foreign consulting company (possibly linked to the CFR?), and that this report became the mainstay foreign investment policy of the party that eventually lead to the implementation of the policies that resulted in the Canadian funding of its own takeover by foreign corporations. Up until the time of the Hurtig article, Hurtig states that some 7,000+ Canadian businesses were taken over by foreign corporations.
While some Canadians are familiar with Canadian Conservative Party's Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's US-Canada free trade agreement negotiation controversies, they may not be aware that the sell off of Canada is not exclusively the fault of Conservatives, but, according to Hurtig's criticisms, can also be attributed to John Manley and the Liberal Party of Canada too.
Can any of the news paper article criticism of Mel Hurtig be referenced in this John Manley Wiki article to balance what appears to be the lauding of praise on Manley for his public service to Canada? 
I was unaware that Manley was involved with the CFR, nor that he was a member of the board of Nortel Networks leading towards its failure and sell-off to many foreign corporations world wide? Oldspammer (talk) 04:49, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian sovereignty versus foreign investment 

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