Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo/Archive 1

message: The dude actually drives a Black BMW, not a Porshe. Its seen on this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjl6jICfpVw
Shoito 09:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor mod 

message: okay i just deleted the part where it said "scored a goal against debrecen... but missed start of the season with an ankle injury" because he's already recovered from the ankle injury and doing better than ji-sung park i might add. Also, like it was too brief to be a relevant source towards the outlook of how well he'll do this season (05/06) so hopefully you'll all understand that. peace out: Darkroom Danny 09:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  unneccessary bits 

message: In some German newspapers (for example "Bild") you can read, that he`s in Love with a portugese hostess, Merche Romero, which is 9 years older than he. Is that true? -- Anonymous(217.245.242.226)
They have been seen a lot together, and it is widely accepted as truth among the portuguese population, but I haven't found any official statements, or something that could be used as a source.
I only found this: 
http://www.observatoriodoalgarve.com/cna/noticias_ver.asp?noticia=6951
The rest of the references to Merche being Ronaldo's girlfriend come from portuguese tabloids such as "Correio Da Manhã" or "24 Horas".
--Phelan 05:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girlfriend? 

message: The section on Ronaldo's charity work has, I suspect, been copied verbatim from this fan website: - http://www.cristiano-ronaldo.biz/
It may be the other way round, can anyone conform this? Besides, is this instance enough to justify a claim that's he's "well known" for charity. One needs to do more than the one or to isolated acts to be "known" for charity work. I'll reword it wall tonight unless someone disagrees. hedpeguyuk 20 June 2006 13:00 (UTC)
Well, we need a reliable source. Is this link reliable? Bacause we can use it as the citation. Kingjeff 13:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plaigarism - charity

message: The 3rd paragraph of the Ronaldo article starts, "By 1995 ..." which doesn't sound right in the context of what follows, because at that time he would have been just 10 years old.
Not really, footballers get snapped up at young ages on semi-professional contracts, especially if they are talented enough. I know that he was certainly playing for Nacional when he was 11/12. hedpeguyuk 21 June 2006 13:15 (UTC)
Actually, you're right only if they are very specialy players at age 10. Kingjeff 16:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Steel 18:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cristiano Ronaldo 

message: Although charges were dropped by the Police should a comment be included about the rape allegation against him in the personal life section?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4357914.stm  --Vivbaker 16:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I think the allegations, and the fact they were dismissed, should be in there. I note similar allegations against Robin Van Persie and Matthew Kelly are displayed on those pages.Andywall 16:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: I think it only needs protection till tommorow. Kingjeff 18:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right, however the heavy vandalism caused the semi protection.  -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 18:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disgruntled England fans were quick to act!--Andeh 18:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: He might play for the same club but they were on opposite teams in the match. Rooney's stamp got him sent off. Phildav76 22:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks like you haven't actually read the whole article. Phildav76 22:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi page protection

message: I cannot believe the vandalism on his page! I watched the entire three hours of the England v. Portugal match and thought it was really good. I'm neither English nor Portugese, yet I was really hoping for England to win. I also love Portugal, so I was okay with either one, really. Ronaldo has always been one of my favorite players and definitely my favorite from Portugal. As much as I love the English team, I wouldn't blame their loss on Ronaldo. Robinson could have saved a few shots, etc. I didn't think it would become such a big deal. I really hope all of this calms down and Ronaldo will be able to return to Manchester United without being booed out of the stadium or having things thrown at him. The one thing that really gets me was the person who put his death day as tomorrow. That's just cruel and wrong...--KaitlynBelle 01:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unbelievable

message: Although Ronaldo has gone back to manchester United, i wouldn't have blamed him if he left because after England lost the game, his house was vandalized by thugs. 
England needs to seriously get over themselves.
I bet you that Rooney only wanted Ronaldo to put all the criticism behind him because Ronaldo is one of Uniteds best players, diving or no. 
PS: Proof that ronaldo's home was vandalized is right here: http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=4005
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England lost a football match because they couldn't take decent penalties.  They were up against Ricardo, who is one of the best goalkeepers in the World!  Get over it!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.139.211 (talk • contribs) 
Its not sour grapes to not want cheaters to win I for one will "vandalize" this article with the truth of CRs poor sportsmanship till my dying breath :p
You English need to get over it. Its a game. You lost. You barely beat T&T and Paraguay, easy teams. Don't blame Ronaldo for your misfortunes. Blame it on poor play and you poor formation.
It won't be vandalism if you can find a credible source. Kingjeff 10:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no evidence that Ronaldo cheated. He was naturally reacting to a foul on his team-mate the same as anyone would. Phildav76 12:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Ronadlo did what he did, its fact, its clearly seen on TV. its definately notable. therefore it is right to be on WP. pretending the event never happened (as people were trying to delete my cited edits!) is what is bias and NPOV. there are citiations. he is well known for diving also, which owen and gerrard are not (whats the point of diving in a friendly?). besides, these are matters for their respective pages. Rooney as u say is known for a short temper... "Rooney is also known for his hot temper and ill-discipline on the pitch." - and its on his wikipedia page! also, whilst pretty much everyone who edits such pages clearly has an opinion / POV, what i wrote was NPOV. and yes there was no statement saying that england lost because of ronaldo's actions, however true-- or untrue-- that may be.Bungalowbill 13:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

text: yes, i realised u added it back, thanks.. but it should have never been deleted in the first place. some of it may have not be cited, but millions of people accross the world saw it; its not something that was disputable. if it came accross POV, then make it NPOV. anyway, all is well now. my second edit did actually have citations (including those from reuters) which covered everything- just where they were repeats i didn't think it was essential to place a copy of each one in every sentence. 
Yeah Bungalowbill, there is no point in diving in a friendly so why did Gerrard do it? Whether players are known for it or not it of no importance. If they dive, even the once, they are cheats. It also annoys me that some people (esp. Ian Wright) justified Gerrard's cheating as it led to a goal, and then condemn Ronaldo. It's hypocritical. I know Rooney's article mentions his temper and that's only fair. However, my point was that it was unfair to "vandalise" due to the player's "poor sportsmanship" till one's "dying breath". Of course a cited claim about his actions in the match should be included (pref. A video clip!), his actions were despicable. But such talk shouldn't be excessive (just as Rooney's article will not be full of claims about him wrecking England's WC run - even though it was his fouls/push/possible language that led to the sending off - his own fault). hedpeguyuk 2 July 2006, 18:10 (UTC)
Here is a recent example, and this comes from a registered user. "CRISTIANO RONALDO IS A CHEATING BASTARD WHO DESTROYED ENGLAND'S CHANCES OF WINNING THE 2006 FIFA WORLD CUP HE ALONG WITH RICARDO CARVALHO". Now this was rightly reverted, but can people please stop it. I can't rememver Diego Simeone getting this sort of treatment after helping to get Beckham sent off with his exaggeration in 1998. Beckham's kick (or flick) was petulant) but Simeone's "fall" to the floor was even worse. And who got the death threats? hedpeguyuk 2 July 2006, 18:17 (UTC)
That because Beckham intentionally Kicked Simeone!!!
"Sour grapes" is a fable of a fox who couldn't reach some grapes too high on the vine and said they were probably sour anyway. No one has said the WC is not worth winning (though it is only a children's game...); they have said CR behaved in a disgraceful way. That is true. Many other players have behaved similarly in this WC - that is disgraceful too. If Portugal had won sportingly, I would have wanted them to win, now I want France to win - Italy cheated against Australia (penalty) and Germany killed lots of innocent Jewish people. Pliny 10:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If England had won, they would still have been without Rooney for the semi-final.Pliny 12:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sour Grapes, anyone?

message: This line 'was involved in a challenge with Portuguese defender Ricardo Carvalho, who made no appeal for a foul, ' I see as very biased. It's technically correct that Carvalho made no appeal for a foul however it might have been a tad difficult to do so when he was writing on the floor in apparent agony at the time. I propose that the words 'who made no appeal for a foul' be removed. Adam777 18:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very POV 

message: Would it be appropriate to add the nickname "Destroyer of English Football" as a nickname?  It sounds a little off, but I've heard at least 3 different TV personalities refer to him as such, and to be frank, it's true (btw, I am from Canada, so feel free to consider my suggestion unbiased). Jaskaramdeep 02:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicknames

message: <Strike>As of spring/summer of 2006 there's seams to be some kind of relationship between both. She has so far, openly supported him at the world cup in Germany. If it is just friendship or something more, time will tell, as both haven't step forward to announce some kind of official relationship.  --Netshark 11:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About Merche

message: The following got removed by a vandal.  I'd like to reiterate my clean up request. Vickser 23:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up Help Requested

message: I notice that some of the biographical info is attributed to ronaldoattack.com. Although it bills it self as "an Unofficial Cristiano Ronaldo Fansite", it looks fairly professional and complete for a fansite. That said, the site doesn't cite any source in the biography section and it doesn't appear to comply with WP:RS. Can anyone verify the credibility of the site? Or where its sources were, so we can cite them instead of a fansite? Thanks. Ytny 20:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I only looked in the first two pages and the profile. Should have gone to the last page, duh. Ytny 21:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Earlier I moved a blog "reference" (JeroenArendsen.nl) to the external links section, which Ytny deleted shortly after. I did not just delete it myself because it contains some video content that could conceivably be relevant. Is this content available anywhere else that would meet WP:RS? Gimmetrow 17:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The videos in the link were YouTube videos that you can link to directly, so there's no need to link to the blog post. Now,the first video's already linked already and the potential relevance of the second video is based completely on a non-notable blogger's interpretation of a video. If anyone more credible comes up with the same opinion or the opinion turns out to be universal, I think it belongs, but otherwise, I think it fails WP:RS. Ytny 18:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  how reliable is ronaldoattack.com? 

message: Imogen Thomas told a tabloid magazine that she and Cristiano had a sexual fling . Nursery nurse Julie Hawkins has also made such claims  but Ronaldo has refused to comment.
Removed the above from the article, since these seem to be tabloid rumors...
Are the Sunday Mirror and The People good enough sources for a bio article? Phelan 18:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankly, no. -- Arwel (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tabloid rumors? 

message: I have removed this unlikely character, introduced here.  Mr Stephen 21:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gareth Hughes? 

message: Sentence is clearly esoteric or nonsensical: "The match ended in a 4-0 win to Manchester United and Ronaldo's contributions were hyped everywhere, with certain British tabloids running headlines such as Seven Heaven." Affreux 18:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Paragraph in "Manchester United" 

message: I noticed that he is categorized as a Roman catholic. But I heard he's not into religion. Is he or is he not a Roman catholic? Kingjeff 03:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Roman catholic?

message: Where are the unsource claims? I wouldn't say over 40 sources is lacking sources. Kingjeff 04:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: =Article sources

message: I've requested for semi protection for this article. This seems to be a high risk article. Kingjeff 20:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Semi Protection

message: Would anyone be kind enough to label the articles of every Portuguese football player as part of WP:PT?  It's a large task, and currently I'm working on label other articles, so any help is appreciated.--Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 15:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:PORTUGAL|WikiProject Portugal]]

message: I always think that football player articles should have a photograph of their subject. I've searched the Creative Commons of the web for a picture of the Portugese winger but I can't find anything. Anyone know of anywhere? Lukelabern 19:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photograph

message: Surely 151 is the amount of times Ronaldo has played for Manchester United overall, rather than simply his league stats? (which is also indicated at the bottom of the article) If so, the stats in the professional clubs section of the personal 'box' need to be corrected. M.Jibran 21:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: League Appearances

message: i got some good pics of this cat and not some teeny bop "i got a crush on Cristiano AWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!" teen site BSers. i have ones from the WC 06 portuguese and some high quality pics of man u kits away or home, either one.
let me know here.
umm so the picture up there is A WEAK RIP off of some image search engine bad pixelation.On a bio picture you want to use something that shows the features of the person, not him screaming 20 feet from the camera zoomed in 2x.
i have better pics of this fool from actual files not downloads, if you tell me how to do it or where to learn i would be more than ahppy to take care of it.
sounds good i have actual photos of him i have taken while he was playing for S.C. Portugal, would i have to liscense or notarize these and elctronically liscense the images, if so i dont care enough.
[/WHEN-1-8] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by When1eight=2zeros (talk • contribs) 20:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the left, you will see "Upload file".  Upload it.  The file must conform to copyright laws - it must be legal to use, and not some image you found off search engines.  x42bn6 Talk 17:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PHOTO 

message: well seing as how this footballer is barely twenty and has the birtish media as well as the football world hanging on the edge of a cliff, isee the need to prepare for the future on this article. Already about 20% of this article is about a CONTORVERSIAL incident involving the world cup. i say just make a new headline "CONTROVERSY" and as well, i think someone needs tot ouch on the RUUD van nilsteroy incident. as even to this day Ruud has said of the record to many LFP primera outlest that, ROnaldo is the reason he left Man U.
cheers
When1eight=2zeros 17:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking of doing that; I'll see what I can do.  x42bn6 Talk 20:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CAN I SUGGEST SOME MINOR CATEGORICAL EDITS 

message: Cristiano Ronaldo did not receive a Best Premiership Player of 2006 award, there isn't even an award by this name according to the official Premier League website. He did get Barclays Player of the Month for November 2006. Thierry Henry received the Player of the Year for 2005/06 award, the Player of the Year for 2006/07 has yet to be decided because the season has not finished. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jasmeet 181 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best Premiership Player of 2006