Talk:City of Bradford

message: Right, I have merged this with the article Bradford and added a bit of extra information about the history of the city. It still looks entirely crap though compared to most other British cities, but that's a job for someone else! Brummie dave 20:49, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge (1)

message: Source www.mapsandstats.com, ultimately ONS 2001 Census.--ElvisThePrince 15:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographic Data

message: Many of Bradford's "ethnic Pakistani's" are in fact Kashmiris.  Why isn't there no mention of this in the article?
:Without second guessing I think it's likely because it uses the ONS ethnic classification system which only has pakistani/indian/bangladeshi for South Asians.--ElvisThePrince 17:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics

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message: I have restored the consensus reached at Talk:Bradford#City_of_Bradford on 05/05/09, by moving this page from City of Bradford to Government of Bradford and redirecting the former to Bradford. Chrisieboy (talk) 13:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What criteria are being used to select the articles for merging? MRSC (talk) 11:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

text: A discussion is now ongoing at Talk:Bradford. MRSC (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge (3)

message: The images in this article are pretty poor. The static image is grainy and not befitting to such an important English city. This gentleman has alot of free-to-use images of West Yorkshire, and he has skylines in this set such as this that we could ask to use?
Other free panoramas include a few here. I haven't really found anything at www.geograph.org.uk. --Jza84 |  Talk   15:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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message: I would like to move this article to City of Bradford Metropolitan District. I note the discussion I was much involved in at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Subdivisions#Controversial or confusing cases. The reasons for the move are this:
*The City of Bradford is a settlement given a City Charter in 1897. We describe that city in our Bradford article.
*There is a Metropolitan District called the City of Bradford Metropolitan District. It has a council called the City of Bradford Metropolitan District Council. The district and council are currently described in an article called City of Bradford
*Wikipedia espouses the use of common names for articles. City of Bradford is not the common name for the area or for the council. In my experience, the common name would be, variously, the Bradford Metropolitan Area, the City of Bradford Metropolitan Area and Bradford Met. It would not be City of Bradford. An Ilkley resident would not say "I live in the City of Bradford". They would say "I live in the Bradford Met area" (were they forced to talk about the area they wive in w.r.t. the word Bradford).
(The current naming invites us to put information relevant to the Bradford article in this article - namely the date of the grant of city status in the info box. The area was not granted city status. The settlement was.
*I cannot think of a single good reason for this article remaining under its present title.
Discuss. --00:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The council and area is the City of Bradford and so the article should be there not some addition of metropolitan borough. We do not normally add the MB tag to articles for City of X articles, there is no reason for this article to be an exception to this. Keith D (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: On the last point the city status was transferred from the settlements to the MB when they were created as several have said in various discussions that have taken place on this. Keith D (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How on earth is your view consonant with Wikipedia:Article titles? Who on earth refers to Bradford Met or the Bradford Met area as the "City of Bradford". Certainly not the ratepayers that I know in the area. Certainly not the council. Who? --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it would be clearer if this article was called the City of Bradford Metropolitan District. -- Q Chris (talk) 06:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I know all our wheelie bins, park, equipment, etc says "Bradmet" on it. I am pretty sure that nine out of 10 people living in Bradford would only know of "City of Bradford" as meaning the central city area, and think the council area is "Bradford Metropolitan District". Incidentally I find it amusing to show people pictures of top withens, Harden Force, etc. and tell them that they are taken in Bradford! -- Q Chris (talk) 12:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, I do talks and people (particularly from 'down South') are always baffled that we have moors, sheep, prize herds etc. Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:48, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: Is Baildon a parish?Stuffed cat (talk) 01:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the parish council has a website which includes maps of the area covered. -- Q Chris (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

text: There was a list on the City of Bradford MDC site. I added all the councils except for something called "Bradford Trident Community Council". Their site describes them as a "community led company". I don't know what this is exactly but it doesn't sound like a parish council. If someone does know what they are, please could they either add them to the parishes list (if applicable) or mention them somewhere else in the article. -- Q Chris (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: Following the previous discussion I propose a move to Bradford Metropolitan District. The council refers to itself as Bradford Metropolitan District Council or City of Bradford Metropolitan District Council as shown in various council sites , more of which have been given above. Locally people refer to the larger area as the Bradford Metropolitan District and would assume that City of Bradford referred to the central area. Council equipment is marked "Bradmet" a shortening of the above. 
This move will reduce confusion and bring the name in line with normal usage. -- Q Chris (talk) 19:44, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wholehearted support. --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

text: I have reverted this as the council web site you quote clearly states City of Bradford - it is qualified by Metropolitan District Council. The change in name of this article would not prevent people thinking that the Bradford article is not the article on the district, which is much more prevalent than the reverse. A better solution to this, in line with other locations with the same name of borough/district and of settlement, would be the one that was starting to implement but stalled. That is to use the model for the City of Salford and Salford, Greater Manchester with a dab page residing at Salford. This model was being implemented for similar cases but stalled before it got to Bradford, probably because of a bad move where dabs were not done in advance of the move. Thus the Bradford article would move to Bradford, West Yorkshire and a dab page created at Bradford. Keith D (talk) 18:49, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case I propose that we either complete the suggestion, so that Bradford is a disambiguation or move this article to City of Bradford Metropolitan District. 99% of people living in Bradford would assume that City of Bradford refers to the central area and Bradford to the whole metropolitan district. It clearly leaves a lot of confusion with people adding things to the wrong article. Personally I think that City of Bradford Metropolitan District is better because it reflects the council website and the meaning is immediatly clear. -- Q Chris (talk) 19:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: (EC) Sigh. Would you have any great objection, Keith, in us renaming this page City of Bradford Metropolitan District now? Because that is what it is about. Surely there can be no doubt whatsoever that City of Bradford is an ambiguous term which will be taken by most people to refer to the city and by a very few people to refer to the Metropolitan Borough. As to disambiguation pages, I'd opine that the city is better found at Bradford and the dab at City of Bradford, since it is this last that might be construed either way. --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Move 

message: I've just noticed that the tourism section is basically a copy of Helen Mead's article in the T&A (which is at least cited). But the section could probably do with expanding upon, if anyone has the inclination. Nick Watts (talk) 15:54, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourism 

message: The graph demonstrating the distribution of seats on the Council is inaccurate - at any rate, it does not match the cited figures next to it. I'd like that to be sorted out, and thought as I may as well do it.
Additionally, at the top of the Council section there's a lonely sentence fragment that's presumably been left after a previous edit.
Thedisillusionedyouth (talk) 14:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll get on correcting the table. Nev1 (talk) 14:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Done. Nev1 (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

text: I've removed the column showing the previous number of seats for each party and have expanded the table to be 90 columns wide to represent the 90 seats available on the council. It means the table is rather wide and has a lot of empty cells, but when it was only 60 columns wide it gave an odd impression of the council's make up. Is this acceptable to everyone? Nev1 (talk) 15:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: I've removed the crime rate stats as they were bogus and only related to the inner core of the city, thus giving a slanted picture of the whole expanted City of Bradford.92.22.206.154 (talk) 13:43, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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message: Removed population break down from info box, it's covered in the demographics, also noted that other major UK cities ie Birmingham and Leeds don't have this feature as I'm surmising it would be repeating information given in the demographic section of each city page.Epicforest (talk) 13:02, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have restored this as it is on FA articles such as Manchester. You would not expect it on Leeds as that is about the settlement, but it is on the City of Leeds article which is the equivalent of this article. Keith D (talk) 17:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

text: The problems lie with the Leeds page. There were too many arguments in the past over the page and it has never got sorted out. The page needs to focus on the settlement and not on the wider borough which is the purpose of the City of Leeds article. The infobox also should be switched to the UK one as per our guidelines. People keep mentioning it but there is no real effort to correct things, possibly trying to avoid stiring-up the dormant users and IPs who keep an eye on the page. Keith D (talk) 22:13, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics

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message: I'm confused. I came here to check the population. This article says c.535K. But the one on Bradford itself also has c.530K (to add to my confusion, it actually quotes two similar but different figures!), and the one on Keighley, for instance, has 50K. Simple question, I hope, but what are the pop. figures for the city itself and wider council/borough area? Could this be be presented more clearly?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.70.166 (talk) 14:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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message: Is there any tangible proof of Bradford being a cathedral city?    DragonofBatley (talk) 22:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The settlement is, not the district, the district is a district with city status, Collins Dictionary uses the term "city" implicitly for the settlement because it says city in Bradford unitary. Crouch, Swale (talk)  22:29, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  is correct. City status is conferred on Bradford, not the wider district of the City of Bradford. See Bradford Dale (Yorkshire)#History third paragraph down with reliable sources. Of note, it wasn't built as a cathedral, but the church was elevated to cathedral status in 1919 by Royal decree. Bradford was established as a city in 1897. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 22:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to clarify. The statement that the borough has city status has been in the lead a long time... since this 2005 edit by , so should not be discarded lightly. PamD 09:04, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: City status transferred to the new district in 1974. MRSC (talk) 09:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: If the city status was transferred to the boroughs then the settlements should not be called cities. Keith D (talk) 18:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I think the settlement is still a "cathedral city" within the borough which has city status. PamD 19:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cathedral city 

message: Someone's linked the wrong Robbie Moore! 188.28.183.34 (talk) 23:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect hyperlink under Parliamentary constituencies section