Talk:Hanfu Movement

message: Now that it is translated from Chinese, we need to discuss the relavance of some of the points here. Any comments on how to improve it? --Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 14:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article 

message: Heres a comment to improve this article.
I think there are better pictures in of Chinese wearing hanfu in China with Chinese Architecture buildings (i.e. red/dragon clad pillars (not the fluted stuff here in this pic). green ceramic tiles (rather than the stone bas relief), 5 animal eaves (rather than the simple edges) etc..) in the background. The picture should be in Beijing NOT London. This is a ridiculous choice that is subtly politically incorrect. Implies that the Chinese only remember their Hanfu clothes and not their buildings! If aliens were to chance upon this page, they'd miss the incredibly ornate style of Chinese buildings and mistake London for being the capital or inventor of hanfu!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.137.64.104 (talk) 15:39, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the clothes are the central focus, not the architecture? -- AnonMoos (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo backgrounds 

message: It is important that articles adhere to the manual of style and standards of Wikipedia. We cannot add an empty section and write "to do". Also, please read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources as the two cited sources in your writing are blogs that do not appear to adhere to the standard. Also, typing THIS IS RELIABLE in your edit summaries doesn't really prove that; you want to take issues to the talk page to discuss with other editors. Ogress smash! 17:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Manual of Style and reliable sourcing. 

message: * Global Times
 — LlywelynII 08:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for future article expansion

message: This article almost exclusively describes the Hanfu movement to be racial and Han supremacist in nature, and I have to be skeptical that this doesn't stem from one-sided sources. Certainly, any racial implications of the movement is relevant to the article, but it's hard to imagine that a sentiment towards reviving just the fashion necessarily has to be exclusionistic, "utopian", or dismissive of ethnic minorities. It heavily relies upon the views of a single individual, Kevin Carrico while another source it cites in Beijing Review  actually presents arguments on both sides of the movement, even noting that Chang Mengfei of Jiangnan Times asserted that no Hanfu supporter has ever called upon minorities to abandon their clothing, and yet the article uses information from the source selectively to present only one perspective of the movement. Sol Pacificus (talk) 02:52, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Violation of NPoV; selective usage of sources 

message: The cited source that I can verify, Rhoads, says that Manchu clothing, unlike Manchu hairstyle, was only obligatory for officials and scholars, and it was adopted by the Han population of its own accord. This article, on the other hand, asserts that Qing originally mandated it for everybody and later compromised, and includes a lot of stories about this imposition of Qing clothing and resulting rebellions - these occupy much of the historical section of the article. However, all of these stories and almost all the sources cited about this (all that are accessible online) seem to be about the hairstyle, not the clothing. All of this makes me suspect that the stories about violence and rebellions are irrelevant here and are simply used as a rhetorical device in order to present the story of the adoption of Manchu-style clothing as a story of violence, to delegitimise Manchu-style clothing and thereby legitimise 'Han clothing' in opposition to it.--79.100.149.219 (talk) 01:20, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on Tifayifu and Qing imposition of Manchu clothing