Talk:Synthetic fuel

message: This article may describe the process of synthesizing fuel and efforts to do so, but it really doesn't mention the use of renewables and nuclear in order to power the process. Here's a description: Is what's proposed in that paper too obscure to warrant a mention?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.85.17 (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synthesis with Renewables and Nuclear? 

message: It says 400 to 5000 (!) degrees Celsius. It may mean 400 to 500 deg. C. Reference should be verified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.254.231.85 (talk) 12:54, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly erroneous interval of values for Bergius process 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hi , in some of your recent edit summaries, you've indicated an assumption that the only purpose of synthetic fuels is for making jet fuel. This assumption is false. The Royal Society Report says, "The decarbonisation of transport will require the replacement of energy dense fossil fuels (diesel, aviation, bunker fuel) with low or net-zero carbon, sustainable synthetic fuels." And as Hedgehoque indicates above, the automobile industry is interested in electrofuels as a way to perpetuate the use of internal combustion engines. (latest example). Could you please undo your changes that were based on this assumption? 
Could you also please explain this removal of text? What about it doesn't make sense? The passage you removed made sense to me whether the liquid being produced is jet fuel or diesel or anything else.
Also, regarding this edit, I was able to easily find support for the claim that you removed by opening the PDF and doing a search for "358". The link to the source in the article is broken but a live version is available here: Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 05:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I will abandon this for now as it is getting too complicated and time consuming and I don't understand the subject well enough - go ahead and revert whatever you wish - I won't be upset. Chidgk1 (talk) 05:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I understand. Thanks for taking the initiative to improve this article. Cheers, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Added transport project and asked if they could help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Transport#Short-term_decarbonization_of_long-distance_heavy_transport%3F Chidgk1 (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits regarding the purpose of synthetic fuels

message: Currently there is a mismatch between the lead section, which says synthetic fuel can be either derived from hydrocarbons or from a mixture of carbon dioxide and hydrogen, and the body which is exclusively focused on fuel derived from hydrocarbons. I traced the wording in the lead to this 2021 edit, in which someone changed the lead and nothing else. 
I'm sure this was done in good faith, but the effect is to imply that synthetic fuels derived from hydrocarbons (usually fossil fuels) can be carbon-neutral. That's seriously wrong. As a short-term fix I'm going to remove references to electrofuels from the lead and add a disambiguation hatnote to Carbon-neutral fuel. In the long term it might be better to have Synthetic fuel serve as a disambiguation page. 
BTW I did a check of [incoming wikilinks] to this article. The vast majority of them use the term "synthetic fuel" to mean a fuel produced from hydrocarbons. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 05:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Disambiguation makes sense to me. I suspect this is a term that is evolving with language and technology, but dictionary.com does support the article's definition of synthetic fuel: "fuel in the form of liquid or gas (synthetic natural gas, SNG, or syngas ) manufactured from coal or in the form of oil extracted from shale or tar sands." Although, the Sustainability section had me quite confused as someone new to this topic as neither coal nor natural gas are things I would consider "synthetic". It's also odd that carbon-neutral fuel would be considered synthetic while other non-fossil-fuels are not as there are quite a few in between. Perhaps adding Alternative fuel and Common ethanol fuel mixtures to the See Also section makes sense? Intuitively I would expect this article to be called Synthetic petroleum which currently redirects to Synthetic crude (which seems inaccurate). If the disambiguation route is chosen, some of this content might be a really great addition to the sparse Synthetic crude article. Ownself (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation