Talk:Bataireacht

message: This whole article is absolute horseshit not one word of truth in it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.125.97.214 (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So much for: "Be polite, Assume good faith, No personal attacks, Be welcoming" : ) But if you won't even sign your name well...
Anyway, the points made are verifiable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnWHurley (talk • contribs) 04:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Honestly John, I respect your contribution to the martial art and I respect the living tradition of Whiskey Stick Dancing. But this article (which I'm guessing is mostly your doing) is spectacularly biased. I've seen countless period pictures showing batas held in one hand. This is an extremely negative offering and the author clearly has abandoned "Be polite, Assume good faith, No personal attacks, Be welcoming". Wikipedia is not the proper forum for your personal vendetta against Ken.
I'm going to make some deletions and flag it as biased in the hopes that other people will come along and add to it.
(Alleyward (talk) 18:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Ok, aparrently this has been bothering me all day so I wrote a new article. I Wikified it, took out personal references and generally made it an actual article. Please discuss pros and cons here rather than blowing it away. I omitted the word-origin bits that John had previously included...though maybe they do belong in this article. My understanding of gaelic is rather miniscule but I am under the impression that arguing about spelling is rather pointless, as moder scholars do not agree on the spelling of many gaelic words. Furthermore, no common Irishman living in the 19th century cared how things were spelled anyway.(Alleyward (talk) 23:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Please read WP:OWN. You certainly have every right to validate references/etc. However, while you may "own" your original research and publications, you do not "own" this article. Please bear that in mind when editing. Or commenting for that matter. Guliolopez (talk) 12:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Truth? 

message: The paragraph said:
:As the push for Irish independence from Great Britain gained steam toward the end of the 19th century, leaders of the Irish community believed it was necessary to distance themselves from customs associated with factionism and division, to present a united military front to the British, hence the "United Irishmen" of the Republican movement. Foremost of these customs were the arts of bataireacht, and the shillelagh was soon replaced with the gun of the new unified faction of the Fenian Movement.
Toward the end of the 19th Century then; but the United Irishmen were a movement of the late 18th Century, inspired by the French Revolution and the American Declaration of Independence. The paragraph calls them "The United Irishmen of the Republican Movement" somehow managing to conflate them with the IRB and/or IRA in the late 19th and 20th Centuries. Can you cite any reputable source on the primacy of stick fighting in this period? How is the Fenian Brotherhood (I take it this is what you mean) "the united faction"? Paul S (talk) 11:42, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History - Deleted Final Paragraph