Talk:Battlezone (1980 video game)

message: I removed the text claiming that Ed Rotberg also created Red Baron. That (dis?)honor goes to Rich Moore (Lunar Lander). Moore wrote much of Red Baron while Rotberg was working out the data organization for Battlezone. While Moore was the first to get something up on the screen, he was unable to finish the game using his original data organization method, and ended up using much of Battlezone's.
Sources: 
Halcyon Days by James Hague, Ed Rotberg interview: http://dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/ROTBERG.HTM
Arcade History Database, Red Baron entry: http://www.arcade-history.com/history_database.php?page=detail&id=2197
Ed Rotberg: http://www.edrotberg.org
: I was hooked on this game! I walked kilometers with only one coin in my pocket for one single game of Battlezone. Great game! The way to that place was long and I learned to whistle loud without use of fingers in that time :) Even today, decades later I would like to try it again. --Popski 01:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure why not, find a reference web page tho. --Larsinio 17:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've mentioned this on the NBA Jam talk page: there was a trick in some versions of that arcade game to play Battlezone for free. I can't remember how, but if anyone remembers please add the info. -- LGagnon 20:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NBA Jam

message: I've removed the trivia entry about this video.  While it's an excellent throwback to the classic era of wireframe vector graphics, it doesn't contain anything to tie it to Battlezone specifically.  Skyraider 01:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beck's E-Pro Video 

message: Included one popular myth (erupting volcano). I recall there being other rumors involving the UFO. I don't remember it, tho. JAF1970 17:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Remembered one UFO myth, and moved the "tank factory" myth to the Myths section. JAF1970 17:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myths 

message: What's up with the revert war over Scott Evans? It's pretty clear from the reference (safestuff.com) that Scott Evans claims to own the Bradley Trainer, and doesn't mind if people know about it. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but a verifiable reference carries more weight than truth here on Wikipedia. I'll admit that a single web page is not the best ref, but I think 65.57.245.11 has violated the 3RR. Rees11 16:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you are correct.  Scott (who's new site is actually AtariGame.com) is a well known collector of Atari coin-op related machines, documents and overall history.  He does actually own the Bradley Trainer, and picked it up (with most of the other material) when Midway closed the Atari Games offices in California.   The anonymous IP is a proxy with a long history of edit problems according to it's talk page.  I placed a 3RR warning on his talk page, which he now violated with this last edit, and been reported at the  Administrators Notice Board. I've also asked for a semi-protect for the page.  I can not put back the correct info today, otherwise I'll be in violation of 3RR as well.  --Marty Goldberg 16:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Evans revert war 

message: Why is this game categorized as a simulation and not as vehicular combat?
--Logomachist 20:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added it.  --Marty Goldberg 21:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistant genre labeling? 

message: If you believe the images should not be on Wikipedia, you need to challenge the Non-free use media rationale on the image pages. After the image pages have been removed you can come back here and remove the links to them. Rees11 (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: However, having said that, you may have a point under NFCC 3a, "Minimal usage," and 8, "Significance." Rees11 (talk) 00:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-free content 

message: Since most of the information on clones are one-sentence paragraphs, I propose to list them in a table with all the important information in columns.  An example is show below.
Name      	Year 	Developer               	Platforms                                                 	Notes
Stellar 7 	1980s	Damon Slye/Dynamix, Inc.	Amiga, DOS, Macintosh                                     	The developer, Damon Slye, created several other similar tank games
Arcticfox 	1986 	Damon Slye/Dynamix, Inc.	Amiga, Apple IIe, Atari ST, Commodore 64, DOS, ZX Spectrum	Similar game, by developer of Stellar 7.  Added valleys and hills to landscape.
Robot Tank	1983 	Activision              	Atari 2600                                                	One of Activision's first games
Let me know what you think. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 18:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good timing, I actually happened to be looking at that as well earlier today but was thinking the opposite direction - that it needs to be severely trimmed down and put in prose.  That's actually the precedent in articles that have passed GA or FA status, such as Space Invaders.  That means paring it down to a few games notable for being clones that are mentioned in the context of Battlezone clones vs. an arbitrary list of clones and detailed info about their differences.  --Marty Goldberg (talk) 06:28, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Clones in table

message: At least that's the impression the bankruptcy sale documents gave, leaving Atari (or whoever ends up buying the classic arcade properties) with a perpetual royalty-free license to resell this version. If this is correct, should it not be mentioned somewhere in this article? Sslaxx (talk) 12:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Rebellion only owns the Atari Battlezone games, not the Activision ones. There was a source for this at the time () which listed specifically each game each company had purchased, but the site that was hosting it is now unreachable and the Wayback Machine does not have it archived. Rebellion was listed has having purchased 1980's Battlezone and 1995's Battlezone 2000.86.132.3.49 (talk) 11:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New owners of the 1998 Battlezone franchise also own this game? 

message: Both are correct. "Plain" is a geographic term, "plane" is a topological one. I don't have a preference. Kendall-K1 (talk) 11:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plain vs plane 

message: I like the recent cleanup. This article was getting too bloated with speculation and trivia. The only thing I'd like to see put back in is the high score record, which seems well sourced. I would just put in the first two sentences: "On August 30, 1985, David Palmer, of Auburn, California scored a world record 23,000,000 points while playing at The Game Room arcade in Citrus Heights, California. This game took 23 hours, at the end of which he quit with four tanks still left.1986 Guinness Book of World Records" Anyone have a strong opinion? Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We typically only cover details like that (and even then, in less detail) when it's covered by a reliable secondary source. Otherwise that Twin Galaxies record is just as important as the record on any other game (and not particularly noteworthy). czar ⨹ 02:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The clean-up 

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message: I'm not opposed to including something about Panther, but the recently added text is not supported by the source. It doesn't say "It is often described as having been inspired by Panther". It says "Panther and Panzer would prove to be the inspiration for a game that would mark the appearance of polygon-based 3D graphics in both the arcade and the home: Atari’s Battlezone. " but the author of that source has said that was speculation on his part. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: The article tells that VIC-20 version was released in May 1984.
However, a LGR Youtube video tells IBM PC and VIC-20 versions were released in 1983. VIC-20 part even reads "(c) 1983 ATARI". He also tells that the Atari ST version was released in 1986. 93.106.177.245 (talk) 01:41, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  year(s)