Talk:Ottawa Valley English

message: --24.200.35.253 05:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was told by a teach I have a slight Ottawa Valley accent, and I have lived east of the canal all my life. I know I speak differently then other regions, but Im not sure of the difference. I would also suggest that it is perhaps stronger in rural areas. -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I've lived in Petawawa almost me whole life and the "twang" is not related to Ottawa at all and it would rarely be found in Ottawa.  This is something you'd find in the Renfrew County area and the rural areas of the Valley.  If you talk to people who were born and raised in the area and still live here you'll notice the accent.  It is really a mixture of French and Irish, it almost sounds like a Newfoundlander accent sometimes (though not nearly as thick and there are no real added words).  I don't really think this is a distinct "twang" or many other rural regions, but it is probably influenced by the close proximity to Quebec where other rural areas aren't as much.
i'm from deep. this is the place where the sign on the water tower is changed yearly from DEEP RIVER to BEER RIVER, and, in the winter, our school parking lot--studend and teacher areas alike--have many more snow-machines (snowmobiles.. thats more twang i suppose) than actual trucks. in my personal experience, the 'twang' is particularily evident among the 'lads' which are a distinct group of individules who enjoy takin' de fourwheeler our in de bush (or the snowmachine), goin' fishin or huntin', as well as cookin up some moose jerky. these lads are a shining example of the ottawa valley twang.
remember: if you wana be a lad, you gotta wear plaid.
I grew up just across the county line from Renfrew country (Hastings).  This is a dialect that is spoken in the rural areas of the Ottawa valley and like mentioned above the more rural you go, the thicker it becomes.  In areas such as Denbigh, Hardwood Lake, Quadeville, Barry's Bay, Pembroke, Killaloe it is quite evident.  Having lived within 30 minutes of some of these places, in the rural Hastings Highlands I've got a bit of the twang myself.  Although not near as severe as in Renfrew county, and I've shed a bit of it living in the city for the past 6 years.--ProdigalSon 01:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Rockland and areas east are part of the "lower valley". Rockland is near the outer limit of the national capital region. Many residents of Rockland work in Ottawa, but many others would reject being lumped in with Ottawa. --70.81.251.32 22:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When people talk about "the Valley" they don't mean the lower valley, they mean upper.  I've never even heard of the "lower" valley until I read this page, though I suppose with an upper there must be a lower.  Still, I doubt anyone who lives in the "lower" valley would really associate with that name, whereas the people who like in the "upper" valley consider themselves to be residents of "they Valley".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomas18 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

text: We should be able to specify that the Valley excludes the City.  Heading up the line, it would start at the 'prior.  Further south most people would consider Cartoon Place as part of the Valley.  The 'frew is definitely Valley.  Everything north of Algonquin to the river.  How far west? LeadSongDog 20:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specifying location 

message: The common words and phrases were getting to be excessive (~80 examples of words and phrases that people in the area use).  No examples of them were referenced, and although I know that they are in fact used (being from Bancroft myself).  Fact of the matter is they have nothing to do with a dialect of english (which is what the article is actualy about), they are just phrases.  Take a look at Cockney rhyming slang which is a far more recognized version of english, with seven common examples.  Perhaps an article titled List of phrases used in the Otttawa Valley with cited sources.--Kelapstick 19:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed the common words and phrases

message: http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Shows/Ontario/Ottawa+Morning/ID/2241307122/; http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pickin-burries-the-ottawa-valley-dialect-1.1230443; http://ogradys.ca/opeongo/ov_expressions.html; https://scienceandstory.wordpress.com/tag/ottawa-valley-twang/; 
https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/bien-well/fra-eng/histoirelang-historylang/vallee-valley-eng.html.  
Canadian Geographic magazine, Sept/Oct 2005, article on the Ottawa Valley, its people, and 'the twang' Pendragon39 05:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible reference? 

message: I have assessed this as a Stub, as it only contains the basic information on the topic, and of low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 03:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: I'd just like to point out that I was born in Ottawa, moved to Arnprior (The 'Prior) when I was five, and lived there for most of my life, until I moved to Lanark Village.
Many of the explanations, and terms used in this article, and on this article's talk page are obviously malicious stereotypes.  Besides that point, this article should either have two seperate sections, or be two completely different articles, because there is a very distinct difference between an english valley accent, and a french valley accent.  You won't find many, if any people in Arnprior using, "d" to substitute, "th". - That is much-more related to the fact that the, "th" sound doesn't really exist in the french language, so they replace it with a, "d" sound when speaking.  It is very similar to the french omitting an, "h," in their speech.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.166.226.56 (talk) 21:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The REAL Ottawa Valley ACCENT 

message: I had a few minutes and rewrote the article to give it a more consistent feel. I also broke the article up into a few sections to improve coherence. Please feel free to modify it as you wish!72.139.59.20 (talk) 01:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-write 

message: People are saying that there are no references and no evidence and that "i never hear that in ottawa" but thats true because this abou thte valley and its not possible for ottawa to be in its own valley.  There are news articles, webpages and endless references and linguistic studies for ottawa valley accents.  Some are even from the government of canada. : http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Shows/Ontario/Ottawa+Morning/ID/2241307122/; http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pickin-burries-the-ottawa-valley-dialect-1.1230443; http://ogradys.ca/opeongo/ov_expressions.html; https://scienceandstory.wordpress.com/tag/ottawa-valley-twang/; 
https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/bien-well/fra-eng/histoirelang-historylang/vallee-valley-eng.html.  216.185.86.62 (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major content removal 

message: I have to say the Ottawa valley twang sounds remarkable similar to Irish accents, I don't hear much if any British influence. Sounds like a Irish person who spent a few years in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.37.138.8 (talk) 23:46, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sounds remarkable similar to Irish accents 

message: I find the history quite colonial-centred. There was an indigenous presence prior to the arrival of Europeans that I would think would have had some influence on dialect as the Ottawa Valley is one area where peaceful partnership, trade and co-location took place. 192.197.178.2 (talk) 19:50, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History