Talk:Mars 2112

message: Please do not delete this article yet. The stub has room for improvement. Give me 7 days (exactly 168 hours from the minute this page was signed) and I may be able to improve this article. --Defender 911 00:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a reference and some more solid facts. I can do a bit more research later.  At this point we should keep.  I will remove the AFD in a day or two. --Knulclunk 02:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Rosie O'Donnell and Bill Clinton have eaten there? That's not notable, that is every McDonalds on the eastern seaboard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.55.35 (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you really going to argue that? Bring that comment to the McDonalds page. There are hundreds of thousands of resturaunts in New York. How many of them have catered to a celebrity? Maybe the Waldorf-Astoria, but not most resturaunts. And of course they made at McDonalds! Most people have eaten at a fast-food chain. --Defender 911 10:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well famous people eating at a restaurant doesn't necessarily make it notable, there are thousands of famous people in NYC and thousands of restaurants. But, Mars 2112 is a big place, a tourist attraction and serves a gazillion people a year. The article is certainly as notable than Volcana or Swellow, etc. --Knulclunk 15:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What you need are some verifiable sources that attest to its notability. Get those, and you have a better chance of surviving AFD. Try searching through some NYC periodicals, and see what you can come up with. - BillCJ 19:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: GREAT! I'll look around! --Defender 911 19:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, those sources should also provide more information to expand the article, which it needs also. I'd suggest backing up what you add here to your userspace, that way if it is deleted before you have a chance to expand it, you won't lose what you had, and you can applay to have it restored. (Don't just recreate it on your own.) - BillCJ 19:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: Is the Official site being (or going to be) used as a primary source? If we're not quoting directly from it, it should be listed under an "External links" heading. - BillCJ 21:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for fixing the categories. I'm sure this article will improve. --Defender 911 23:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official site

message: I live very close to the Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL, and a Mars 2112 restaurant was open there, albeit for a brief period.  I did some quick research online and found these two newspaper reports anchored my findings: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-66138403.html and http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-66015275.html  I would add these in myself, but would like to keep Wikipedia's standards up and frankly don't feel that I could write an appropriate section that's up to Wikipedia's calibre.  Other proof of the Woodfield Mars 2112 existence is this pdf from EnjoyIllinois.com, Illinois travel bureau website: http://www.enjoyillinois.com/illinoismediacenter/pressreleases/2001/1.4.01-Illinois.pdf  A quick Google search for "mars 2112 woodfield" results in numerous accounts of the restaurant, including several reviews and one interior picture.  The Daily Herald reports that it was opened during the weekend of October 6th-8th 2000, and I can attest to the fact that it closed during the late spring 2002 as I called to reserve my graduation party for there at the beginning of June and they were already closed.  I'll keep checking back to this page to see if I can be of any more help.
Brianbobcat 06:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago/Woodfield