Talk:A14 road (England)

message: I removed this dubious statement (in bold):
The high number of crashes, deaths and injuries (there is at least one crash almost every week) on this section has led to it being nicknamed the 'Road to Hell' by the Cambridge Evening News...
According to the CHUMMS Report (which admittedly is a few years old):
Accidents were perceived by some, as a significant issue on the A14. Data was obtained from Cambridgeshire County Council of reported incidents between 1995 and 1999 and a summary of results by accident severity and vehicle category is provided in Appendix 3. Analysis showed that the overall number of accidents is not significantly different to other similar A roads, but there was a higher incidence of "slight" accidents – often minor shunts, reflecting the congested traffic situation. This does not detract from some isolated serious accidents on the A14 in recent years.
(Full links available here, but Appendix 3 appears not to be available.)
I've left in a reference to the "numerous accidents" on this section, which is at any rate less controversial, but it would help if up-to-date accident statistics could be found for this section, especially if they could be compared to national averages. The Highways Agency has a safety report for the Cambridge-Suffolk section of the A14 on their website , but unfortunately it doesn't include Cambridge-Huntingdon. Blisco 13:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was considering asking the Highways Agency for accident and traffic flow statistics for the road to get some definitive (and up to date) answers on the road's safety -- this would also be useful for citing where there are articles about notable sections of the road, such as the Orwell Bridge. -- Ratarsed 08:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crash frequency on the Cambridge-Huntingdon section

message: Can anyone find any reliable (published) sources for all the junction numbers? The only reference I have found so far doesn't include junction 19A. I'd have thought the highways agency would have them, but I can't find them on the website... -- Ratarsed (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't been able to find anything online either - in fact, the only reference I have is the signposts themselves. The junction numbers are only relatively recent in the history of the A14, so wouldn't have been on the original plans, but I do vaguely remember a Highways Agency project being listed on their website a few years ago about the numbering scheme. Not too helpful I know! -- Nibblesthemouse (talk) 23:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junction numbers 

message: The 1.2m section of the A14 spur between the junction with the B1043 and the A1(M) appears to have been referred to as both the A14(M) and the A604(M) on official information during its planning and implementation. It appears to have motorway classification since there is no further exit for non-motorway traffic after the B1043. It is also variously called the A14, the A14(M) and the A1(M) by major mapping providers. There is a page about the A14/A604(M) about it on 'Pathetic Motorways', however the sources for their information do not link to primary resources. There is also a page on it Pathetic motorways with comments from various people about the numbering over the years which includes a copy of an anonymous email from the person who claims to have specified the signage for the section who said I was responsible for signing the A14 in 1991 for which was Contract 9 of the Catthorpe to Spittals dualing of the old A14/A604. I noticed that the "Alconbury Spur" had no route number. I couldn't be the A1 as that was at Brampton and we couldn't have three A14's coming off spittals interchange. I asked the then DoT what they wanted to do about it and they decided that no action was the best action. Therefore I think it was signed (A1) and (A14) depending on where you are coming from. Incidentally to all intents and purposes it is refered to as the A14 by the HA today.. There is also a page on Sabre. PeterEastern (talk) 06:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A14(M)/A604(M) 

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replies: text: All sorted now. Thanks for the scan. PeterEastern (talk) 06:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: Is this section really needed? There must have been hundreds of accidents and incidents on the A14 over the years, I'm not quite sure what distinguishes these three incidents; the petrol station one, maybe, but the last one from 2008 is essentially a tragic but quite common type of incident on this and any other major trunk road. Bob talk 17:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I have removed the last one but have kept and added wlinks to the overheated acetylene cylinder one; a 24 hour closure with the bomb disposal team called out is a little more notable I guess. I will however be able to provide statistics for the total number of people killed and injured on this road by year  in due course which will give a much better idea about the overall casualty rate. PeterEastern (talk) 20:09, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Bob talk 20:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notable Incidents" 

message: I have made a one-character change to the history section ;-) ... the old route I feel must have started at J1, not J2 of the M6, even though it's from long before I was born. Probably just a typo, or a misremembering of the junction number.
The motorway was built westwards starting with the M1 junction, so there was never a point where J2 was connected up but J1 wasn't. At first, the A427 ran from the A45, north through the centre of Rugby, then through some very narrow and tight roads through Catthorpe, Swinford and South/North Kilworth (my father has lived in a couple of these neighbourhoods and it's startling to think of the through-routes being trunk A-roads with heavy lorries on, as they're little more than alleys in the village centres), only later being thankfully realigned to start at Coventry and run up to Lutterworth and straight across to Market Harborough, bypassing the villages.
In both cases, coming off the 2x3-lane, grade separated, 70mph road at Coventry, in order to either ---
* 1/ head down to the A45 (in a pre-A46 bypass world no less), then back up through the centre of Rugby (no bypass there either), across the A5 at a staggered junction and onwards, or
* 2/ head for the realigned road at Binley and strike out for Lutterworth on roads that are barely any better, just with more open village centres and a better A5 crossing
--- taking at least 17 miles either way (and probably upwards of 30 minutes) on single carriageway roads with lots of curves, at-grade junctions, 30mph town limits and few overtaking opportunities, when you could reach the same point by continuing on the motorway, coming off at J1, hitting the A5 at a roundabout and then either turning right to meet up with the old route or continuing straight on to reach the newer one at Lutterworth (taking about 12 miles in either case, 9 of them being on the motorway so the whole procedure may only take 15 minutes), just seems absolutely crazy. Unless Junction 1 wasn't built at first or something, and this was the only way to get to Rugby and the A5 as well as Lutterworth/Swinford/A427?
If someone has documentary evidence, by all means change it back and cite it, but just from rudimentary mapwork and knowledge of the area I can't see any good reason why you'd take what were essentially twisting backroutes with an undeserved A-number tacked on (and that I had to ride on before getting my full bike license) instead of sticking with the motorway for another 10 minutes or less and connecting to the port-bound route by one or two almost dead-straight good-quality purpose-built roads that don't go through any towns (Cotesbach maybe excepted, depending on bypass build date). Truckers aren't stupid when it comes to routing... 
(And reaching dad's places in Swinford, Kilworth or Husbands Bosworth was a case of, when not using the catthorpe exit off the M6/A14/M1, coming off at J1 and going via Lutterworth then along or back down... or taking the unclassified Gibbet Lane off the A5 island, which is certainly good quality enough to be a former A-road and bypasses the worst of Swinford centre. Any other way was scenic, but decidedly lower quality in long-distance road terms.)
193.63.174.211 (talk) 16:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hopefully not too controvertial... 

message: Last night I started reworking the junction list (in my sandbox), aligning it with WP:RJL. I made a few small changes to undo some vandalism that had lain undetected for 6 months.Martinvl (talk) 11:48, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Junction list vandalism

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178.183.178.63 (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now reported the issue on Wikipedia:Help desk. PeterEastern (talk) 22:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem has been fixed with the inclusion of a  command, but we are not sure why. I am posting a follow-up query on WP:VPT as was suggested by the person is added the clear command. PeterEastern (talk) 06:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  The table was formatted "float:right" but the 100% width means it isn't intended to float at all. I've replaced most of the custom table-level formatting with class="wikitable". Hopefully, this removes the need for , so I've removed it. Is that OK now? — Richardguk (talk) 11:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks great. Many thanks. PeterEastern (talk) 04:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout error? 

message: Given that current improvements seem to date back a number of years, for example. I wonder if anyone is particularly looking after this article? If there is then it might be well worth going through with a fine comb and finding all the out of date aspects. Otherwise I'll try to find time to do it. Whilst we're at it, I do wonder about the use of subheadings in this one - there do seem rather a lot of them at times. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done the obvious updates and removed the banner. Thanks for highlighting this. PeterEastern (talk) 06:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rather out of date 

message: The "Diagram" isn't a diagram at all, its a tabular listing, or "Table". I was looking for a diagram - i.e. a map-like graphical image of the road - so I was disappointed!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.62.77 (talk) 21:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagram? 

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message: Since the former A14 trunk route through Huntingdon and up to Alconbury is now part of the A1307, the bulk of this section (where it discusses the identity of the "Alconbury spur") should really be moved to the A1307 page. The A14, on its new alignment, now completely bypasses the Alconbury area. Just wanted to check that this is the right action to take.
DAB (talk) 09:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Identity of the former A14 spur north of Huntingdon" 

message: There is a three-lane section near Kettering. From the Histon Road section is three-lane to the A1, and Girton to Bar Hill is now four! Mdrb55 (talk) 14:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route: more three-lane sections