Talk:Zwieback

message: I thought these were german.--Lionelbrits (talk) 19:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added clarification of the origin. ✤ JonHarder talk 16:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

text: In my opinion, this article does not describe what is usually meant by Zwieback. This article should be moved to a name which more accurately reflects what it actually describes, Mennonite Zwieback or Mennonite zwieback, plus the obvious disambiguation pages. Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian? 

message: There's a separate article on that. This article is about something else -- thin crispy slices called plain "zwieback". I've reverted much of the article text to reflect that. Equazcion (talk) 23:52, 19 Apr 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Russian Mennonite zwieback]] 

message: This article needs an explanation of why "zwieback" is spelled with "ie" rather than with "ei" as in standard modern German.
I'd especially like to see the following possibilities investigated:
1) Did the German or indirectly-German immigrants who brought zwieback to America spell it "zwei-", such that it was Americans who changed it to "zwie-" (presumably to match their idea of what a word pronounced that way should look like in print)?
2) Did the immigrants speak (and, by extension, write in) a regional dialect in which the word for "two" (or, more loosely, "twice") is spelled "zwie" rather than "zwei"?  Does/did any such dialect render the same diphthong as "ie" in other words as well, and if so, what are some examples? 
3) Was "zwie" a/the standard spelling of "[two]" at the time the term was coined, such that the term "zwieback" stabilized as a "frozen form" and the spelling of what is now "zwei" evolved away from it?  (As above, is any such "ie"-to-"ei" change reflected in other words, and if so, what are some examples?)
:I think zwie is a now-lost form of a word that meant "twice" rather than "two".  There's a German etymological dictionary online somewhere that would know (Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache) but I cant seem to find it now. —Soap— 18:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.koeblergerhard.de/der/DERZ.pdf says "zwie, Präf., Nebenform von zwei für Zusammensetzungen, s. zwei" —Soap— 18:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: http://woerterbuchnetz.de/DWB/?sigle=DWB&mode=Vernetzung&hitlist=&patternlist=&lemid=GZ13244 has a lot more info.  It's definitely used in German, and for more words than just zwieback. —Soap— 04:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, "zwie" is not an actual word itself anymore, but rarly used in old combined words like "Zwielicht" (twilight) or "Zwiegespräch" (dialog). 137.226.83.164 (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

text: [i]In der Woche zwier...[/i] I don't think native speakers dissect the word in casual usage, it's just a noun - not [i]Zweitgebackenes[/i] or something. I also would take some offense with Zwieback being [i]brittle[/i]. It does produce annoying little crumbs on breaking or eating, but it isn't that easy to break, pretty stable. The slices are about 1 cm thick. If not too fresh and/or having absorbed moisture the slices get somewhat gummy-y. --88.74.151.47 (talk) 14:40, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of "ei" --> "ie" reversal in English?