Talk:DVD-R

message: Anyone notice how all the [edit] links are grouped at the See Also section? Anyone who knows how to fix this, can you do so?
Dziban303 02:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting 

message: I think we could provide some much more relevant images for this article, diagrams on how the technology worked would be far more appropriate, and we do not need an image to describe what a spindle is Protiek 12:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevant imagery 

message: I think a very valuable addition to this discussion would be how long playability life is. I have heard that it's around 5 years before burning and around 30 years after burning, but I have no source and no idea about it's reliability. Anyone who would know, thanks!
so, which is better? dvd-r or dvd+r? Jm51 02:25, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 4-5 years seems absurdly short based on real-life experience. I have playable CDs that are 15+ years old, and playable DVDs that are 7+ years old. These are discs that have been regularly used, and for most of that time I've been without air-conditioning so they've been exposed to temperature and humidity fluctuations. Can anyone provide a citation for playability life? Cmadler (talk) 16:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be that they are refering to what is known as the 'archival life'.  This is the time period for which you can guarantee to recover all the data from a single archived copy of the medium.  It is the minimum life and is considerably shorter than the average life.  Many people do not realise that the archival life of paper documents (made with modern paper) is just 10 years even though, on average, they may last several decades. 109.153.242.10 (talk) 13:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playability life 

message: I have been trawling the net for a long time now looking for the physical diference between a DVD-R and a DVD+R.  There are plenty of threads telling of how they are two competing standards and that they are two competing formats etc, but no information (that I can find) on the defining difference between the two that means that a DVD-R cannot necessarily be played in a DVD+R machine and vice versa
A very interesting article that claims the superiority of DVD+R over DVD-R:   Why DVD+R(W) is superior to DVD-R(W) - Michael Spath
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The diference between a DVD+R and a DVD-R is how it is read. DVD+R are read by reading the pitch frequency of a disk. A DVD-R is read by reading the wobble distance between 2 points. DVD+R are a bit cheaper and are more supported by DVD readers.
--Emperor Richard 23:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no difference in the way they are read.  The difference only affects the way in which they are writen to. 109.153.242.10 (talk) 16:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  + and - actual difference 

message: So, since it is not REwritable, does that mean I can't reFORMAT it? Is rewriting and reformating the same thing (different names), similar (different things), or completely dfferent?
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Not entirely. Nero can perform an operation that permits to "rewrite" a DVD+R or DVD+RW. DVD+RW may be written several times over (about 1000) but it is done in a different way. The only difference is that, in a DVD+R, the data remains the same (it is "invulnerable"). In a DVD+RW, data is not as invulnerable as in a DVD+R, because it can still be written over and over again.
--Emperor Richard 23:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  R v. RW 

message: I've heard a few people using "minus" instead of dash, so this might not be incorrect, just another variation. --Evilboy 09:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be strictly accurate, it is a dash (or hyphen) not a minus.  This comes about in the same way as the recordable CD is CD(dash)R.  The plus was adopted to indicate a recordable DVD-RW that had some extra technology (i.e. plus something) that allowed for more accurate repeat writing.  That users refer to the DVD-R as DVD(minus)R is probably understandable. 109.153.242.10 (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dash and Minus 

message: What type of dye is used in DVD-R? 65.188.253.13 03:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dyes 

message: What format should I use? I want to burn my own dvds to play on regular dvd players. Family Guy Guy 01:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Use any media that's compatible with your DVD Player. If in doubt use DVD-R but I personally prefer DVD+R and my player (and most of my friends and family's players) play +R without issues but once in a while you may come across some older or really cheap players that won't read +R smoothly.Payam81 (talk) 06:34, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I want to burn my own dvds 

message: Somebody please fix the bold DVD+R hype in the article.
--Xerces8 (talk) 08:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix the bold text 

message: Please remove the +/- piss contest and make and link to a factual +/- comparison page.
--Xerces8 (talk) 08:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plus/minus comparison 

message: If you compare this page to the DVD+R page, the styles do not match. Jaypvip (talk) 10:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructuring 

message: Why are gigabytes used in the size comparison chart instead of gibibytes? What is useful about simply dividing the number by 1000000000? Can't readers do this by themselves without our help? 76.240.195.199 (talk) 01:30, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Wikipedia discourages the use of gibibytes, (See WP:MOSNUM) 109.145.22.224 (talk) 16:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sizes? 

message: .. to blogs!! Oh noes 1!!eleventy-one
Fact is, these sources are quite good.
Another example of why blogs shouldn't be tarbrushed as unreliable sources.
There's a few decent pages from trade sites etc with more detail on the underlying technology differences between +/-, I'll try and update the family of DVD format articles with some derivations and ref them..
I know it's naughty but I've noted some here for self-reference:
http://www.myce.com/article/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW-203/
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3
http://www.cd-info.com/dvd/dvd-plus-r-dl/index.html
http://www.supermediastore.com/article/u/how-to-burn-dual-double-layer-dvd-media
http://www.myce.com/article/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW-203/
http://www.cd-info.com/dvd/dvd-plus-r-dl/dl.html
benryanau 06:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good or not, blogs are self published sources seldom backed by a reputable source and often may be Original Research.  These are unacceptable as reliable and verifiable references. 109.145.22.224 (talk) 16:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  References(gasp)