Talk:Ollie (skateboarding)

message: I came to find out what is an Ollie? The opening paragraph should say what it is, instead of all the other stuff that the opening paragraph currently says.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.107.130 (talk) 10:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that!  Looked it up, only to find that this article bizarrely never states what an ollie is, except that it is a skateboarding trick.  I knew that much already!  Also, reference is made to a "switch ollie", and the word "switch" links to Footedness.  If the link is relevant, you'd never know it - there is no attempt to explain what a switch ollie is either.  leevclarke (talk) 16:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree.. Article jumps into jargon mode and never explains clearly what is a ollie.. for us stupid people Camille Lambert (talk) 12:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree also! What is it?!? I have no idea and the article does not state in anyway what it is. Nick Beeson (talk) 03:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What is an Ollie?

message: :It's a sad state of affairs that five years later this page omits basic facts about the fundamental skateboard trick. Readers get no clue how this trick actually works, or how to perform it. I'm going to resolve, taking the above debate into account, and also these resources:
# Rodney Mullen explaining how he invented the Ollie, with repeated mention of the "pop", http://www.mumblemagazine.com/208rodneymullen/index.php
# Physics explanation, http://www.exploratorium.edu/skateboarding/trick02.html
# Every online resource I could find mentions popping the tail to Ollie:
## http://skateboard.about.com/od/skateboardingdictionary/g/GlosOllie.htm
## http://www.skateboard-trick-tips.com/tricktips/ollie.html
## http://www.wikihow.com/Ollie
# Finally I will mention that a 'pop-less' Ollie is possible, but has different characteristics. --Air (talk) 18:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thankfully the page wasn't quite as bad as the discussion above, but I've removed the POV and made it clearer what we're explaining. --Air (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revising physics 

message: From the article:
"Crouching down to grab the board while riding through the transition absorbs momentum and makes the skater slow down"
Maybe I missed too many of my physics seminars while at university, but how does the repositioning of a system in motion, under its own power and perpendicular to the main axis of the system's velocity, serve to slow the system down as a whole? Alvis (talk) 07:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of the transition is to change the direction of the skateboarder from a horizontal vector to a vertical vector, while also turning some of the skater's kinetic energy in to gravitational potential energy. But the skater already has gravitational potential energy when riding through the flat bottom, as his center of mass is several feet above the ground. By crouching down the skater lowers his center of mass and reduces his gravitational potential energy. This in turn reduces the amount of height he can achieve. Opon further thought, that statement in the article isn't totally correct, so I'll change it. But it remains true that crouching down in the transition reduces the height the skater can reach. Shreditor (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Momentum

message: Just removed this from the page:
"The highest ollie ever recorded was measured at 1000 feet and was completed by Hitler."
It sorta tickled me. Chris 21:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hitler

message: In this article, and in the articles for the individuals, there are claims that Alan Gelfand and Rodney Mullen invented the "ollie". Does anyone know of any reputable sources for these claims? BlankVerse 09:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gelfand invented the ollie on a vertical ramp. Mullen adapted this trick to the flat ground. I've edited the article to reflect this Steve-g 20:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've just looked through Mullen's book. On page 115 he writes about 'inventing' (his words) the ollie. Thrasher magazines from 1982 also feature Mullen pulling the trick which was first called the 'ollie-prop pop'. It's generally regarded that Mullen was either the first to ollie on the flat, or at least the first to get recognition for pulling the ollie. And he was 16, not 13. Steve-g 06:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inventor?

message: I've removed the variations section from the article as it's full of jargon and useless information such as: "A switch ollie is an ollie in switch". Steve-g 08:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variations 

message: When ever I try to do a ollie I never get of the ground. 216.211.51.150 12:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do you do it 

message: 12.5 feet is 3.6metres i highly doubt, do they mean 1.25metres?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.102.171 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 20 April 2007
There is also a mistake on Danny's record, it was mesured at 44.5 inches, not 45.5 (this can be checked easily, just google it, or check in mags). And there is a record claimed by Luis Tolentino at 45 inches but far from beeing legit and officialized so I keep Danny's record here. 13 April 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.81.153.23 (talk) 03:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: records

message: He doesnt thoroughly explain the full details and processes you have to do to do an ollie  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fastcash70 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ollie 

message: "Luis Tolentino Ollied a record breaking 45 inches and landed it successfully, it was recorded by Nick Shenker and can be seen on YouTube."  
I have no idea what the wikipedia standards are for citations, but YouTube?  Really?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.239.45 (talk) 07:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube? 

message: Boneless is being redirected here but never mentioned. The only "near match" is "bonned ollie". I expect that "bonned" is the opposite of "boneless" which doesn't make it much clearer :-) --46.244.157.84 (talk) 18:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boneless 

message: The opening states "This trick is also a registered trademark." but doesn't give any further information.  If it's trademarked, who or what owns it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.116.86 (talk) 15:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trademark 

message: Still not resolved. In this article, the maneuver is dated to 1978, but in the Alan Gelfand article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Gelfand ) it is dated to 1976. The former has citation, but even the cited pages differ. The first (Merriam-Webster dictionary) says the term itself was used in 1979. The second source, mumblemagazine, says the trick came in 1977. Which date is correct?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.168.127 (talk) 18:00, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date discrepancy