Talk:Gender mainstreaming

message: Can someone explain what happened to the references?--Mgoodyear 20:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: :The concept of gender mainstreaming occurred on 1985 Third World Conference on Women in Nairobi. 
What does it mean for a concept to occur? Marnanel 18:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  occurred 

message: Thee should be comparisons between feminist economics and mainstream economics, so that possible criticisms might be detected. This is especially true since feminist economics are increasigly being blamed for the demographic and economic crisis in Europe and the United States, where feminist and anti-discrimination ideas have been implanted almost everywhere in the workplace. ADM (talk) 00:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism ?

message: On the 23 of September I added an important part on the major principles of gender mainstreaming. If anyone should erase the changes made, please explain on what grounds. Sincerely, Barak Pick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barakpick (talk • contribs) 11:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirements and Principles of Gender mainstreaming 

message: I want to begin writing the concept in Hebrew. Does anyone know how to technically allow a new language option for the concept?
Sincerely,
Barak Pick  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.64.35.178 (talk) 06:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender Mainstreaming in Hebrew 

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message: I am planning to make some revisions to this article as part of a project of my Feminist Economics and Public Policy class. 
I am thinking of adding something to the last paragraph of the introduction. Instead of merely mentioning the concept defined by ECOSOC, I would make clear that ECOSOC agreed on conclusions (1997/2) that established some important overall principles for gender mainstreaming. 
I am as well thinking of revising the section on “Principles” (see reaction to “Requirements and Principles of Gender Mainstreaming” above).
I would like to add a subsection on the initiatives of the European Union. There are several initiatives in the context of EU. In a short introduction I will mention some of them (e.g., several women’s networks (WECF, EWL, etc.)). Then I would cover more expansively the experience of gender mainstreaming within the European Employment Strategy. Since 1997, the EU is promoting a system of policy-making that requires governments to adopt a gender-mainstreaming approach to major area of economic and social policy. 
Please feel free to comment or make any suggestion.
I will use the following references:
European Commission, 2008, Manual for Gender Mainstreaming. Employment, Social Inclusion, and Social Protection Policies, Directorate-General for Employment, Social Affairs and Equal Opportunities Unit G1;
Jämstöd. 2007, Gender mainstreaming manual. Swedish Government Official Reports SOU 2007:15. Stockholm: Edita Sverige AB;
Calvo, D., 2013, What is the problem of gender? Mainstreaming gender in migration and development policies in the European Union, Gothenburg : Department of Sociology and Work Science. (Doctoral Dissertation);
Goetschy, J., 1999, ‘‘The European Employment Strategy: Genesis and Development.’’ European Journal of Industrial Relations 5(2): 117–137;
Lang, S., 2009, Assessing Advocacy: European Transnational Women's Networks and Gender Mainstreaming, Soc Pol (2009) 16 (3): 327–357;
Plantenga, J., Remery C., and Rubery, J., 2007, Gender mainstreaming of employment policies – A comparative review of thirty European countries, European Commission. Luxembourg: Office for Official Publications of the European Communities;
Rao A., and Kelleher D., 2005, Is there life after gender mainstreaming? Gender and Development. 2005 Jul; 13(2): 57–69;
Rees, T., 1998, Mainstreaming Equality in the European Union. London: Routledge;
Rubery, J., 2002, ‘‘Gender Mainstreaming and Gender Equality in the EU: The Impact of the EU Employment Strategy.’’ Industrial Relations Journal 33(5): 500–522;
Rubery, J., 2004, ‘‘‘More (and Better) Jobs for Women?’ The Employment Task Force Report and Gender Mainstreaming,’’ in E. Honekopp, ed. Impulses for European Employment Policy, Impulses for Germany, pp. 77–94. Nurnberg: Institut für Arbeitsmarkt- und Berufsforschung der Bundesagentur für Arbeit;
Rubery, J., 2005, Reflections on Gender Mainstreaming: An Example of Feminist Economics in Action?, Feminist Economics 11(3), November 2005;
Walby, S., 2005, Gender Mainstreaming: Productive Tensions in Theory and Practice Soc Pol (Fall 2005) 12 (3): 321–343;
Woodward, A. E., 2008, Too late for gender mainstreaming? Taking stock in Brussels Journal of European Social Policy (2008) 18 (3): 289–302;
Does anyone have a suggestion to add to this reference list?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DewinneA (talk • contribs) 19:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to revise

message: I am revising this article on Gender Mainstreaming and I think this section could be improved. However, I don't have relevant resources to revise this section. Maybe anyone can help to improve this section about Taiwan? Many thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DewinneA (talk • contribs) 17:18, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: Hi everyone, I added some references to the Vienna subsection. Does anyone have additional references to add? Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DewinneA (talk • contribs) 22:19, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Vienna

message: Under subsection "other criticism", the following is said: "When gender mainstreaming polices are drafted without consulting sections of the women’s movement (i.e. women’s rights civil society groups), they lack ground level-expertise. Policy decisions related to gender that are made without consulting sections of the women’s movement do not demonstrate a clear political willingness to addressing gender inequality. When institutions reach out to the women’s rights movement, it demonstrates transparency, inclusiveness, accountability and the implementation process is more likely to be monitored with diligence." I wanted to verify the reference stated, however without success. Could maybe someone check this? Many thanks! DewinneA (talk) 03:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference check

message: I wanted to learn something about the Gender Mainstreaming subject just because the term has been used many times in a late night tv discussion I was watching yesterday without explaining what it actually means.
After reading this Wikipedia page I have to admit I still do not feel I have got it. OK, I admit I am the one who failed here, but is not that so Wikipedia should serve uneducated readers first of all? ;)
I see the definition - it makes some sense to me - it is a theoretical phrase saying: 
Whatever is going to be politically introduced as a rule, we should make sure it is not preferring men or women but it is done for prosperity of both genders (assuming the rule can imply differently depending on gender at all). 
In case there is a kind of inherited inequality already, we are still allowed to help the poorer (i.e. 'positively discriminate' either women or men, but I take as a fact that women are the oppressed ones in most cases). 
Something like that?
OK, assuming I understand the main point properly, still perceiving the article too vague to cover the big deal adequately, I have some questions/suggestions:
# Gender Mainstreaming means we think about the gender-related consequences all the time and therefore all the examples are logically just implementations of this general approach into legislative - so it is a "meta-rule" and expecting any example showing how this "meta-rule" implemented in real life has some real final effects correlated with its intents is too much to expect? Or is there an example that is not like "EU legislative requests Gender Mainstreaming be part of legislative in all the member nations" (I do not even consider such examples being examples).
# Does not Gender Equity idea presuppose the only you need to do not end up with preferring women or men is to never use words "women" or "man" in the legislative and approach people equally - as human beings? The same rights declared to both genders are assured by simply not mentioning genders - they should simply not be a source of a new generated difference here. Not: "Think about genders all the time" but "do not think about genders at all" seems to be the better approach here. Why not?
# If there are specific needs of genders and Gender Mainstreaming wants to take them into account (with no Gender Equity concept in mind), i.e. it is assessing not equal implications to not equal genders as much as possible, what is the standard routine of deciding how to reach Gender Equality - a standardized metrics proposed to be implemented or something less vague than what I read in the definition?Request for "assessing implications" should describe also HOW to do that, otherwise one can end up with legislative declared Gender Equality* compliant (*assessing not equal implications) not allowing women with small children to work while asking men to pay 50% tax to support them, because it is somehow better for all the genders involved - especially for the children (hyperbola). Why not?
Gender Equality as a goal, request for assessing different implications depending on gender as a key approach - does it make ANY sense? Seriously, can it be explained?
Thanks.
Eltwarg (talk) 08:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Any examples and more specific rules that would finally explain how it actually works or is intended to work?

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