Template talk:MtDNA

message: Haplogroup Z appears twice in the table. I guess that the one that is direct descendant of M is wrong, but I know nothing about it, so I don't change it myself. --84.150.201.189 21:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haplogroup Z twice in the table 

message: I am sorry, but who is saying that L0 is extinct?  says that L0 has a frequency of 25% in Mozambique! And what is a "most distant common ancestor"? The first RNA molecule? It appears, from  that L0 is simply the first offshoot off the tree rooted at mt-Eve. Please restore the template accordingly. dab (ᛏ) 07:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: L0

message: The template makes it appear that pre-HV* is a descendant haplogroup of U, when in Macaulay's haplogroup skeleton it is clear that pre-HV* is directly descended from R*. I'm a bit reluctant to touch the template as the formatting rules are rather hard to comprehend. --Saforrest 23:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, and this Map by John Walden shows there's a haplogroup UK (parent of U & K) descended parallel to haplogroup B; but it also says Y is descended directly from R & not N. Interesting... of course, that map you posted is dated '02 and this John Walden one is dated '03, which has been a lot of time considering the progress of typing these groups. But who knows, there isn't a lot of good information on this subject online outside of wikipedia. Nagelfar 06:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It looks like you're right, haplogroup pre-HV is also known as "R0"  Nagelfar 06:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I changed it, but I didn't do a very good formatting job; I don't quite completely understand it myself. I'm wondering if "UK" should be added with U & K under. Thought it seems to be getting harder & harder to piece together neatly. Nagelfar 07:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Of course, if pre-HV is aka R0, what does that define pre-JT? It can't also be R0. Though according to the family tree DNA website  it claims pre-HV to be the 'former' name and R0 to be the current proper name. Nagelfar 23:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks great in Firefox 1.5.0.11 in WinXP on my system. Nagelfar 22:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  Thanks very much for fixing this. --Saforrest 05:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with U and pre-HV 

message: And even shares two basal mutations with N1a , . I have corrected it in the I haplogroup and other higher level pages but the template should be corrected too. --Sugaar (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm unsure how it relates to the supposed macroHG "IWX". Is that a new name for N1? Haplogroup Y is also downstream of Haplogroup N9. There is a lot of confusion in the template, mostly because the mtDNA HG tree is very convolution. The placement of CZ and UK are also not intuitive. Nagelfar (talk) 06:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: I is downstream to N1

message: Each of my last two revisions   seem to be equally preferable in their own way. Maybe an additional change of adjusting L2 to be over next to L4 while putting the branches coming down from L3 off to one side of the chart, rather than splitting the above clades over either side of it, may aesthetically make it read better. I'm open to suggestions. Nagelfar (talk) 06:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If I can nitpick, CZ is not centered over C and Z.  UK is not centered over U and K.  I would put A to the left of R, mostly for clarity of spacing.  I would move L0 more to the left so nothing is underneath it.  But small stuff aside, it looks great, and thanks for your work keeping it up to date.  It's fun to be interested in a science that is so fast moving.  — Reinyday, 23:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and was about the suggest the UK movement myself, this link writes UK as "Uk" and I don't know if it is a mistake, but being that the compound haplogroup K is subordinate to U in the compound "UK" haplogroup, maybe it should be moved under U or removed entirely or such. 71.59.220.46 (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

text: I know the UK/KU and such should be edited, but I'm not sure how to express the delineation of the succession of haplogroups on a tree and still show the proper hyperlinks. As for 'A' coming before 'R', I don't think it's necessarily because the mtDNA haplogroups do not follow an alphabetized order themselves. I would too like to make each branch not terminate parallel to another vertically but if I extend the table too far to the right some kind of glitch makes artifacts appear, I could do this on the left however: , though I do not think it is a thorough-going template if this rule is followed for the left side of the template/chart and not the right. The HGs L4 through L7 still appear over & parallel to A, S, Y & IWX where they terminate as branches in this revision. Nagelfar (talk) 18:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different permutations of the page. 

message: I tried to update the spacing of the top rows.  I believe the width numbers still need to be modified to add up at each row but I made sure the column and row totals added up.  A tip for editing: change border="0" to border="1" in the top row and leave that on for editing to visualize columns and rows more easily.
— Reinyday, 17:08, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  tip for editing