Talk:Seine fishing

message: in the sub heading Danish Seines the last sentnce of the 4th paragraph contains the word 'usefulin'. This should be changed to 'useful in' 
Quote - 'It is especially usefulin northern regions, but not much in tropical and sub-tropical regions.'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.181.7 (talk) 09:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Misspelled

message: I found this article after reading a mention of a "mullet seine" in a Carl Hiaasen novel but only the "purse seine" is covered here.  Are there other kinds?  --Arnoldlover 16:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you learn about other kinds of seine, please make an entry in this article. I don't know anything about them, except that my father visited Peru and spent a few days on a sardine fishing boat, which works with sardine seines. I am not qualified to write about them, however. Wadsworth 20:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other kinds of seine?

message: I think it would be most helpful to have a photo or drawing of a seine so a new reader can better visualize what is discussed. --Arnoldlover 16:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image needed

message: It would be nice to see a section of this article regarding unintended consequences of seine fishing such as by-catch and effects on dolphin populations.Rigbyl7 00:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to data illustrated at http://www.ted.com/talks/enric_sala.html the negative consequences are so devastating, that the fishing industry actually makes *more money* after seine nets are banned (basically since the fish populations begin rising). Cesiumfrog (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Negative Aspects of Seine fishing?

message: I would like to second the notion to include harmful consequences of this practise in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.169.117 (talk) 18:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second 

message: There was a little comparison tidbit in there that claimed that power-block seining required seven crew at the minimum, and the drum seining reduced that number by two. The author of that paragraph no-doubt is thinking of the giant sardine fishery in Chile, or something like that. In Alaska salmon and herring seining, for example, four or five is normal. Anyway, I took that number out, as I don't really know the roles of crewmembers in drum operations. I added a paragraph with these roles for the power block operations. Can someone put in a similar role-definition paragraph for the drum section? Wadsworth (talk) 04:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  the gear is all the same whether you're doing drum sets or purse sets, and it's generally always four people: The skipper runs the hides and drives the boat, the skiffman tows the other end of the net, the corkman stacks the corks and the leadman stacks the leads.  Sometimes younger family mambers will serve as a fifth and stack the "web" between the corks and the leads.  I've three-manned it before, but it's a pain in the ass Xurtio (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  By the way, you can do drum sets with a power block.... Xurtio (talk) 20:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many crew for drum and power-block seining? 

message: My skipper always threatened to throw me overboard for calling line "rope".  There is no "rope" on a boat.  Everything is a line.  The purse isn't rings with a "rope" through it.  It's a ring with the purse line going through it.  The seiner net has a whole anatomy: the breast line, the cork line, the lead line, the tow line,  the purse line, etc.  I will expand this article from my personal experience, eventually. Xurtio (talk) 11:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That will be great. However, remember also that the article is presenting a global view of seining, and not just how it is practised and spoken about in, say, Alaska. The FAO refers to "rope" sometimes in the context of seining. Although "line" is most often used, googling seining+rope still gets 245,000 hits. The problem with personal experiences is that, unless they can be backed with reliable sources, they have little value on Wikipedia. --Epipelagic (talk) 23:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good points.  This is why I'm not jumping in an editing.  I would consider myself an expert at Alaskan Commercial Salmon Seining as that's the lifestyle I was raised into before diverging to academics.  I have some experience in hering (seine), king crab (potts), and cod (longline).  I don't think we should depend on Google hits though.  Anyway, "rope" or "line" in terms of Wikipedia policy isn't going to make a difference.  It might be better if I did a particular section within the article pertaining more specifically to Alaska. Xurtio (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Well that's good. The article needs expansion and proper sourcing. Perhaps we can do this together. I'm pushed for time at the moment, but I'll see what I can do. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  sounds good, the fall semester will be starting up soon here so my activity will probably drop significantly at that time, but we'll make constructive progress eventually Xurtio (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given your interest in neuroscience, you might also be interested in contributing to pain in fish. --Epipelagic (talk) 01:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  line not rope 

message: The folklore I had heard about line vs. rope is that originally, rope was called the stock of line.  Once you take a section of rope from the role and cut it and utilize it in your gear, it's now a line (because it has a specific purpose).  It's not specific to Alaska or even commercial fishing:
http://www.boatlore.com/Rope.html (notice this is not about alaska seining)
http://www.denverrope.com/definitions.htm (definitions: notice that the official names have 'line' in them)
I think this is consistent with the folklore history I heard, but as always, needs confirmation from reliable sources.
Xurtio (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that's good. The article needs expansion and proper sourcing. Perhaps we can do this together. I'm pushed for time at the moment, but I'll see what I can do. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  sounds good, the fall semester will be starting up soon here so my activity will probably drop significantly at that time, but we'll make constructive progress eventually Xurtio (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given your interest in neuroscience, you might also be interested in contributing to pain in fish. --Epipelagic (talk) 01:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: In a lot of places a seine is referred to as a seine net.  Surely the term seine implies that it is a net, and the word "net" is superfluous?  Just wanted to bring it up rather than go through the article changing it, in case I am wrong. Huw Powell (talk) 01:56, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Either is acceptable. "Seine" by itself can refer more to the technique. But if the context is clear, then "seine" can equally refer to the net. The FAO article on the nets is titled "Seine nets", not "Seines". And that is about definitive as you can get in fishing. But in the body of their article they sometimes refer to the nets simply as "seines". --Epipelagic (talk) 02:24, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seine v. seine net 

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