Talk:Water speed record

message: I can find no web reference to
‘Skimming the Surface’ by Fred Harris and Mike Rimmer’, 2001.
ISBN and publisher would be great.PeterGrecian 12:34, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: reference

message: Was John Cobb's Crusader all aluminium ?   says it's "Built of birch plywood, reinforced by DTD 610B, a high tensile alloy produced by the British Aluminium Company".PeterGrecian 14:20, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Crusader

message: I have that the record set by Warby was 511.11 kmh or 317.6mph based on a sign at Tumut near the Blowering Dam in NSW.  What is the source for the 510kmh?--A  Y  Arktos 21:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revised figure for Warby's record

message: Should there be a distinction between salt water & fresh when discussing records. I am aware of salt water records but not sure where they fit in.GrahamBould 14:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Salt Water

message: Record was set in 1919, not 1909. See PBS technology timeline and others that are not copies of Wikipedia's error. Marco Thomas 16:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baldwin record

message: Any reason why records before 1919 are not shown? What about steam yachts? Take a look at the chart at 
. Cbaer 16:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a pre-1911 section. Was Fred K. Burnham's Dixie IV in 1911 the first internal-combustion vessel to beat a steam-powered vessel?? Also: Can someone verify that Bell/Baldwin's 1908 "powered watercraft" experiments referenced in the next paragraph used internal combustion engines? Cbaer (talk) 00:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I suspect not. I think there was a Napier-engined launch around this time too. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Records before Alexander Graham Bell

message: In the Quicksilver section there is a paragraph publicising the bankruptcy of the original company added by an anonymous user on 28/05/2009, shortly after the bankruptcy was declared. The original entry predicted the effective end of the Quicksilver project as a normal consequence of the declaration.
The current paragraph notes that the project continues but with "Companies house return shows the company have very little in assets. One Director and a Company Sec", this edit being made on 15/09/2009 by user MasonGman, who has no userpage and made only that edit under that username. 
My concern is that the paragraph is not in keeping with the neutral point of view policy, as it is intended to harm the Quicksilver project, and also frames a negative perception only to the Quicksilver project. All of the other contenders are long-gestation projects, all require sponsorship and this seems a clear attempt to unfairly damage one of the competing projects for the Water Speed Title.
I am (a) new to Wikipedia, hence I'm seeking advice rather than pre-emptively editing, and (b) a supporter of the Quicksilver project. However, I am also a supporter of other extreme engineering projects such as Bloodhound and the Bluebird Project. Given the current fatality rate of the Water Speed Record, I would rather that all the projects raised sufficient support to run a viable design that minimised the risks to the drivers.
I propose that the paragraph "In March 2009 Nigel Macknight, Managing Director of the Quicksilver company and pilot of the boat, was declared personally bankrupt and had to step down because it disqualified him from holding any company directorships.[5] At the same time the UK's Companies House issued a proposal to strike-off Quicksilver (WSR) from its register.[6] The Quicksilver WSR Ltd company was struck off on 1st Sept 2009 but the company appears to have come back as QWSR Ltd. Companies house return shows the company have very little in assets. One Director and a Company Sec" be deleted because of the violation of Neutral Point of View.
Please let me know your comments and advice about whether I am following the correct procedure or not.
Ponddipping (talk) 21:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quicksilver - Not a Neutral Point of View 

message: The article now says With an approximate fatality rate of 85% since 1940, the record is one of the sporting world's most hazardous competitions.. What does this mean, and what is the source of this 85% number (it isn't mentioned or explained anywhere else in the article). Does it mean that 85% of the record holders died sometime after getting the record? 85% of the record holders died while setting the record? That 85% of the people who tried to break the record, broke their neck instead? Or what?
Nyh (talk)
:+1. I've removed the claim. The sources weren't great and were published after the info was added here. I'm thinking this might be a case of citogenesis. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:48, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It was actually listed at 50% in 2005, and upped by an anonymous editor in 2005. Ouch. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fatality rate 

message: The bit on the "improved speed" needs clarification. Are those listed speeds for 2-way averages, or single passes? Or is the WSR set differently...?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 06:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fast girls 

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message: The article states that there is a governing body with reference to the water speed record, but what are the qualifications?
1) Is there a required speed run from two directions, much like in the land speed record attempts?  And if so:
2) At what point in time did this requirement take place, as it is likely this wasn't happening in the earliest water speed record attempts.
3) Is there a distance requirement?
4) Does the death of the boat pilot negate the record attempt, such as John Cobb's attempt in 1952?  Or:
5) Was that attempt by John Cobb in 1952 not official due to not reaching a specific distance (see 3)?
6) At what point in time did the Union Internationale Motonautique (UIM) begin officially ratifying records, what is their history within the water speed record "business" so to speak?
This article could be greatly improved if a lot of these questions are answered.  Sometimes I skim a little too fast, I did not see the answers within, if they are in the article let me know.  Thanks! 2600:8804:80:2280:E87B:67FC:36A:BFBB (talk) 04:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments. Wikipedia is edited by volunteers so any changes are done by people when they have time, knowledge of the subject, interest to do the edits. See WP:DIY and maybe you can do the work and improve the article. Thanks. Robynthehode (talk) 08:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record Qualifications? 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Feiseen. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 27#Feiseen until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  FozzieHey (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Feiseen" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: This article includes absolute water speed records and water speed records by human propulsion. I suggest the 'see also' section include a link to List of world records in rowing.--Darrelljon (talk) 12:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't see the similarities, no records on this list have anything to do with rowing. The only similarity I can see is that they both take place on water? FozzieHey (talk) 20:37, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also List of world records in rowing 

message: How about the priority of SI units and non-SI units? --Angerdan (talk) 14:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Display order priority of SI units and non-SI units 

message: He was not an American but Belgian.
https://www.earlyaviators.com/efischer.htm
Year of birth unknown. He died in 1934.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.69.234.65 (talk) 21:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jules Fischer 

message: I'd do it (Template:Convert can do multiple target units), but it's a lot of tedious search and replace, which sucks manually (and is error-prone), and I've never written a Wikipedia bot (and a one-shot bot is stupid) and it probably would be reverted anyway (I can think of one reason right off the top of my head: unsourced, because a Google search for "fastest boat" showed only kph/mph numbers)
But knots is the proper primary unit still. jae (talk) 13:12, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knots as primary unit 

message: We have got
and
I'm a layman, but if you're ejected from a vehicle at 200 MPH isn't the cause of death going to be major trauma or at least injury? Shock can set in and kill quickly when you're injured, yes, but water at 200 MPH is as hard as concrete -- you're dead instantly, right? 
There was no proximate ref for "shock", so I changed "died from shock" to just "died". Herostratus (talk) 21:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Died from shock? 

message: What is the status of the Caspian Sea Monster within this context? According to the sources used in its article, its maximum operational speed was 270 knots (within 6 kt of Warby's record), and the highest speed recorded was between 300 and 350 knots. If ground-effect vehicles are counted as watercraft, this would this would make it either the fastest or second fastest depending on the measurement used. Marisauna (talk) 20:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a watercraft. Also the records aren't gained by 'being the fastest', but by being the fastest to complete an official timed course, when observed by official observers. On both these counts, it's outside this article. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caspian Sea Monster