Talk:Christina Aguilera/Archive 3

message: I have both dvds and I know the note listed as being a B6 cannot be accurate. It's got to be a G6 or G#6 at most. I have compared both notes on the stripped DVD and "Refelction" back to back there is only like a half step difference betwen the two. I think it needs to be revaulated for accuracy, I could however be wrong. Does anyone have a tuner?
: We don't need a tuner! We need a professional article from a magazine which states this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lbmixpro (talk • contribs) .
::You're not signing your name, and no we do not need a magazine article, we can still source the material, and keep on looking for online text.Maddyfan 21:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How can we source the material? ---LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 04:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you CANNOT source the article using tuners and original research! and a blog is not an acceptable source. I am watching this page and will remove the content and incorrect categorisation the minute this article is unprotected.--I'll bring the food 12:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  vocal profile 

message: Others cannot work on this page with this person here.  They have used up their chances, and there are not enough notices on Wikipedia to help them understand this.  Please unlock the page, and please extraodinary machine, leave Christina's page.  Thank you for trying, but you're just not contributing to the situation.  Everyone's additions were deleted thanks to you.  Xtinamoline 15:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Account created today. Extraordinary Machine 18:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Before I just used by ISP number. Xtinamoline 21:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Xtinamoline, please realize that personal attacks, Sockpuppetry and Ownership of articles are against policy. EM can edit the page if he wants to; it's not in your role to tell who can and cannot edit the page. It's not only EM who's caused the article to be locked. Also the contributions are still there. If you want to help contribute, please post your ideas here. I also have reason to believe that you are User:maddyfan in disguise. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 03:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry but you have that wrong.  Extraordinary Machine broke the rules.  All our additions were deleted without a reason.  Edits were done more than 3 times as pointed out, they were not reverts each time as claimed.  They think that they own the page, which they do not.  This page will not be unlocked until Extraordinary Machine leaves as was already stated.  All I'm trying to say is that we're going around in circles here, without coming to a resloution, but again, it is true that Extraordinary Machine did break the rules.  So I would say that they're in the wrong. Xtinamoline 12:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If EM broke the rules, tell me which one. here's a list, just tell me. As far as I see, he's done things within policy. I think it's you who is keeping this locked, because of your inablity to work cooperatively with EM. You are wrong about having the article unlocked when EM leaves. It will be unlocked when you and EM can prove that you won't edit war once it's opened. If you continue to try to push EM away from this article, a request for comment will be issued against you (or maddyfan if it's proven that you and her are the same), and you may also be blocked for disruption and personal attacks. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 20:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me make it clear a bit, the 3 Revert Rule does not apply to ordinary edits. You revert when you reverse another person's edit, making it look as if the edit never happened. Anybody can edit more than 3 times. They cannot reverse an edit. By the way, EM is one person. Keep that in mind. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 04:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I just wanted to comment that these other people are not me.  At any rate, I think we should just all calmly try to work this out.  Perhaps if we go through section by section and discuss what main points we want to touch on.  That way we can come to some sort of an agreement as to what should stay or leave.  I saw about mention about how to cite things such as vocal abilities and what not.  I think we can have important info such as that kept in, with [citation needed].  At least that way we'll have noted stuff that needs to be eventually sourced out.  I hope that this helps.  Maddyfan 19:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing personal, but the style of posts and animosity against EM are too similar for me to pass off. I'm going to look into this issue and, if nessasary, request a checkuser to see if you and Xtinamonline are one and the same. Until then, please don't remove any notice about sockpuppetry. Anyways, It's been agreed on long ago that Vocal Profiles shouldn't be on articles, but a section that writes about the vocal abilities is allowed (But needs to be sourced). this page has info on what can be a source. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 20:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have the video in question which apparently supports what is written. Maddyfan 20:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I am not a sockpuppet of Maddyfan I merely saw a great opportunity to ignite a powder keg and it apparently worked and for that I am amused. So to recap I say, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky and respect my authoritah!". Pay homage to the master bow before my ego. Look at it it is so immense! That is all, thank you for your time. 66.68.254.78 07:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, so you may not be a Maddyfan sockpuppet. You still tried to slow us from getting things done, which caused you to have a 24hour block. BUT you had to vandalize my talk page and try to cause more trouble by attempting to impersonate me here using an open proxy? Everything you post here is put on record. Enough of this, let's get back to having this article up and running before Xtina releases her video! --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 10:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extraodinary Machine must leave the page 

message: The sentence  "She was a confident and strong performer" (located in the "Biography" section) needs a period to follow it. Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 01:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's a NPOV violation for the article to describe Aguilera as "confident and strong", so the whole sentence will need to go. Thanks for noticing it. Extraordinary Machine 15:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a Typo 

message: A request for comment regarding Maddyfan's behaviour on this article and the related talk pages has been filed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maddyfan. Extraordinary Machine 15:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maddyfan]]

message: hey I'm a huge Christina Aguilera fan and I have never made a change or edited anything on here.  I like to come to this page to get information on Christina's status (singles, albums).  But I think this article is a little too long.  Maybe its best to just list the need to know basics about Christina, rather than going into what kind of vocal tone she has and all that stuff.  Just a brief history on her childhood, not everything we learned about on VH1 or E!, and a little history on her first, second and third album.  I mean, is it necessary to know she made a Pepsi commerical in Europe, just stick to the basics.  This article is like reading the transcript from E! True Story or an upcoming Behind The Music eposide. I'm sorry I'm being so negative about this, but I like to visit this site and get informed on her new album. I hope I don't offend anyone for speaking my mind.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.130 (talk • contribs) 
:I think you have a good plan set, but I also think that her vocal abilities are notable. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tip 

message: Hey guys, I've been a Christina fan since 1999, and I've followed her life closely thoughout the years, being that 85% of all I listen to is Xtina.  I just signed up to help out since we should solve all problems on this page ASAP. I've been the one taking down the album cover at the 'Back to Basics' section because it is a fan made cover and somebody keeps putting it up (yes, I have evidence).  Anyways, about her childhood, I would have to re-watch 'Driven' and re-read some past interviews to accurately describe it.  As much as Id like to praise Christina's octave-range, there is no source that I know of that states it as official. --Xionel 01:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming the images are from a CMM Contest Emporium competition. I'm a ChristinaMultimedia manager, and I'll probably ask a director if they can do something about it. I've tried to find sources about her octave range, but there's nothing verifiable about it. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 09:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: Okay look, I understand how Wikipedia likes having free pics instead of fair use even if its crappy...but the best free pic we can get is a blurry out of focus one six years ago?--CyberGhostface 17:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole point of "fair use" Wikipedia isn't to use copyrighted images just because they look better. Read Wikipedia:Fair_use#Policy, which says "Always use a more free alternative if one is available. Such images can often be used more readily outside the U.S. If you see a fair use image and know of an alternative more free equivalent, please replace it, so the Wikipedia can become as free as possible". It would be more useful for Wikipedia if you (or anyone else) were to email Aguilera fansites and other websites related to her to see if they'd be willing to donate one of their images under a free license. See Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission if you're not sure what to write. Extraordinary Machine 18:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link. I'll try sending some messages later. (And I'm not being sarcastic, I really appreciate it.)--CyberGhostface 18:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic 

message: Using the recommended template, I sent an e-mail to an administrator of a Christina Aguilera site for use of his pictures. The link to the discussion can be seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Btbshoot_01.jpg  --CyberGhostface 00:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEW PICTURE 

message: The numbers in the brackets, eg:20 are for a reason or can they be removed? Grey Shadow 13:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006–present: Heading Back to Basics 

message: This reads like a fan essay. The basic idea is good, but I suggest that it be removed unless we can find and cite reliable sources for it. Extraordinary Machine 19:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cultural influence" section 

message: How come Christina is no longer tagged as a multiracial or multiethnic singer?  She is Irish/German-Ecuadorian, wouldn't that count?130.39.135.219 17:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Multiethnic/Multiracial"

message: This states that "If the rules are unhelpful, ignore them as you improve or maintain Wikipedia's quality." Could that apply choosing a better, more recent picture of Christina as opposed to a bad one six years old?--CyberGhostface 20:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But we're dealing with copyright issues, which in essense is non negotiable. If a free use is available, there's no use for fair use. That tag which is below the fair use image on its description page states that it can only be used when no other free alternative. See  Talk:British Shorthair for a similar issue. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 20:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:IAR]] 

message: Is it just me or is there an "anomaly" at the bottom of the page? I tried to correct but couldn't Mad Jack 05:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bottom of page