Talk:Marble Hill, Manhattan

message: So the portion of the Harlem River separating Marble Hill from Manhattan island is, in fact, a man-made canal? -24.149.193.49 (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  That's the reason the neighborhood exists as it does today.  The picture at top shows the Harlem Ship Canal, and it should obviously be labeled that way for every encyclopedic purpose - the truthful and most informative presentation. This article is about a human-made settlement and this is its defining human-made feature. The Harlem River is of course much longer but this article is not about the Harlem River it is about Marble Hill, a relatively small area, and to this day, the water channel south of Marble Hill is the Harlem Ship Canal. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I would appreciate your thoughts on my recent edits. Please see Tieck (1968) for more, who provides the most comprehensive account of Marble Hill that seems to exist. Wwaasshhiirrvv (talk) 18:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Harlem River

message: Actually marble hill is a part of manhattan.  At some point it was connected to manhattan and the bridge there and the water way are man made.  It was blown open pananma canal style and the water way was manipulated not natural.
  Tecnically manhattan was not a complete island there was a part that was connected to the bronx. That is why marble hill is manhattan and somebody actually picked where manahattan ends/starts and where the bronx starts or ends.  
  For postal code reasons the bronx zoned it to minimize confusion.  The sighn that tells you that youre in manahattan is actually in what marle hill project residents call the "orange park".  AT some point it was all painted orange thats the only sighn there.  If not you would never know you are in manhattan and that river plaza mall crosses manhattan and the bronx.
::For as long as humans have been around, Manhattan has ALWAYS been an island, and was not connected to the Bronx.  As the article states, the Harlem River (a natural river and not man-mad) once separated Marble Hill from the Bronx and Marble Hill was connected to the rest of Manhattan.  As for postal codes, one-  the Bronx does not and never has determined what ZIP code goes where, only the USPS does, states and their municipalities are not allowed by federal law to interfere.  second- who cares what the ZIP code is in determining where something is or what its name is?  The USPS could decide suddenly to put Harlem under the name Albany and give it a 12209 ZIP code but Harlem would still be Manhattan and the city of New York, political boundaries and names are all that matters to define a place, ZIP codes are just to make delivering mail more efficient and nothing else.Camelbinky 15:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra, extra. 

message: I live in Washington Heights, Manhattan, and commute to Riverdale in The Bronx for school.  Traveling through/over "Manhattan-on-the-Mainland" every day on the subway/bus has made me interested in the geological and geographical history of Marble Hill and Kingsbridge.
The article says —
At 210 West 230th Street on the southwest corner of Broadway and 230th is a plaque designating the area as the site of the Kings Bridge.
However, I went looking for that plaque a few days ago and couldn't find it.
Anyone got more current or exact information as to where it is?  A picture for the article would be nice.
Call me Steg (no account yet).
Thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.203.7 (talk) 02:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's the Plaque? 

message: Most of the information and sources seem to indicate that it's apart of the Bronx in every way except name: the people think they live in the Bronx, all the stores say they're in the Bronx, the have Bronx zip codes, the receive services from the Bronx, and are a part of a Bronx community board. What's the reason for keeping it officially apart of Manhattan? It seems superfluous. FamAD123 (talk) 23:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The article should be more clear but I am not sure where to find more sources. It is a part of Manhattan because no one wishes to change it, and it will remain a part of Manhattan unless the community would agree to do lots of legal work to change things. I have been unable to find any reliable sources which talk about changing borough.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:02, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Google maps lists Marble hill as part of Manhattan. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bronx+County/@40.8675717,-73.8780731,13z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c2e08bea1f4105:0xc9a6488c48b356c2 PointsofNoReturn (talk) 23:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is part of the Borough of Manhattan (i.e. New York County), but it is no longer physically part of the island of Manhattan.@Blueraspberry - You haven't been able to find anything because no one in Marble Hill is interested in changing.  Being part of Manhattan is much more prestigious, and changing to being part of the Bronx would, in practical terms, change nothing - they already get police, fire, ambulance etc. services from the Bronx. BMK (talk) 02:23, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. And besides all that, making that change isn't something the Marble Hill community could just up and do on a whimsical notion. 'Twould require redrawing the county line, which would also require state-level action (I think, although New York state does have some really squirrely laws wrt to political boundaries so not 100% certain). If it ain't broke, don't fix it :P. 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:6CB7:62BD:5DB:4891 (talk) 00:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is it still apart of Manhattan? 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Marble Hill, Manhattan's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Marble Hill, Manhattan]] 

message: For a brief period while Marble Hill was an island unto itself, it was protected by a volunteer fire company. Organized on May 18th, 1895, Marble Hill Volunteer Hose Company No. 1 was the only fire protection the island had. They were supplied a hose reel cart, hose and tools by the FDNY until the company was eventually no longer needed and disbanded once the canal was filled in and the area was accessible by fire apparatus from the Bronx. NYCVFD Historian (talk) 05:54, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marble Hill Volunteer Hose Company 1