Talk:Police procedural

message: "Crime drama" links in other articles come here.  While the police procedural is a dominant form within the "crime drama" umbrella, not all crime drama is police procedural ... for instance, "The Sopranos," which links to this page, is certainly a crime drama but most certainly Not a police procedural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NewProvidence (talk • contribs) 18:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  vs. Crime Drama 

message: Added reference to Ed McBain/Evan Hunter dying.  Then I cried, because, well, Ed Mcbain is dead. Manticore 13:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: McBain

message: Should Sjöwall and Wahlöö be included?82.92.181.129 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sjöwall and Wahlöö

message: This series might count as a police procedural. Did Streets by James Hudnall pursue this approach?
Enda80 (talk) 21:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Underworld by Ernie Colon and Robert Loren Fleming

message: Doesn't the X-Files deserve to be mentioned on this page? Oliver9184 (talk) 14:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-Files? 

message: While the creator of the Wire might refute the idea that it is a police procedural it is possibly only Detective drama that is realistic about police procedures.IrishTV (talk) 01:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Added The Wire. Meets the definition of "Police Procedural" more than most shows listed here. Certainly more than "Columbo". (Don't get me wrong, Columbo's great.) Clark (talk) 13:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Wire? 

message: --— Tumadoireacht Talk/Stalk 11:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaii 5-0 

message: ::It would go on to win 36 nominations and 14 wins during its run.
What are nominations and wins in this context? Some sort of TV awards or something? --86.162.9.88 (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cagney and Lacey 

message: I've added this template because many statements in the article lack a citation to a reliable source. For example:
Written stories
*"The procedural became more prominent after World War II..."
*"Over the next few years, the number of novelists who picked up on the procedural trend grew..."
*"Perhaps ranking just behind McBain in importance to the development of the procedural as a distinct mystery subgenre is John Creasey..."
*"A prolific author of police procedurals, whose work has fallen out of fashion in the years since her death..."
*"These novels are often considered severely flawed..."
*"It has been suggested that the Inspector Maigret novels of Georges Simenon aren't really procedurals..."
*"... Joseph Wambaugh's success has caused him to become the exemplar of cops who turn their professional experiences into fiction..."
Televised stories:
*"The Cops (1998–2000) – perhaps the most realistic police drama series yet seen on British TV..."
Comic Strips and books
*"The comic strip Dick Tracy is often pointed to as an early procedural."
*"Certainly Tracy creator Chester Gould seemed to be trying reflect the real world."
I'm not disagreeing with the accuracy of such statements - they seem to have been written by someone with a good knowledge of the genre (certainly better than mine), and they're useful and informative - but nonetheless they need backing up. Thanks. Meticulo (talk) 02:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template: opinion piece 

message: I propose to merge both Procedural drama and Procedural (genre) into Police procedural due to their substantial overlaps. There has been previous discussion some previous comments about this: in 2012 on this page (above), at the talk page of Procedural (genre)  and in 2014 at the talk page of Procedural drama. These are my thoughts on the three articles:
*'Police procedural' is currently written like an essay and needs drastic cuts;
*'Procedural (genre)' is well-structured, with sections that could readily be imported into the host article; and
*'Procedural drama' is solely about television programmes and could easily be subsumed into either of the other articles.
I'm open to suggestions about which article should be the host. An argument could be made that police procedurals are a sub-genre and therefore the host article should be 'Procedural (genre)'. But my feeling is that other types of procedurals - such as courtroom dramas, coronial and forensics dramas, science documentaries, military thrillers, and so on - could easily be presented as variants on what is perhaps the original and best-known of the sub-genres, the police procedural. I'm also persuaded by these page view statistics. 
Your thoughts, please? Meticulo (talk) 15:49, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And pinging previous talk page contributors: . Meticulo (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also invited comments at the talk pages for WikiProjects on television, novels and crime. Meticulo (talk) 06:59, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

text: The issue here is that the "procedural" genre is potentially broader than simply "police procedural". So while I have no opinion on the merge question, if it's done, I advise that it be merged into either Procedural drama or into Procedural (genre) rather than merged into "police procedural". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:46, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can support this – "procedural" is potentially broader than "Police procedural", the latter being a "subgenre" within the former. On the other question, I'd merge Procedural (genre) into Procedural drama – the latter is a better WP:NATURALDIS title (and I can't think of example of a "procedural" that's not also a drama... Maybe Police Squad!?...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: * User talk:207.63.101.31: "whats ur deal with police procedural?? Patbaseball2221 01:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 07:35, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  User talk:207.63.101.31 

message: 666 31.127.184.192 (talk) 21:16, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  doctor who