Talk:Eagle Scout/Archive 2

message: I think a bit of reorganization of the history material would be better presented as:
History
*General
*Requirements
*Medal
*Badge
*Other insignia
--Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK with me.Rlevse 11:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I was noticing in the examples for Leadership projects, one of the examples including running a blood drive. The blood drive itself does not totally count as leadership since the blood center self-corinates (its a matter of picking a phone and asking them to be at place for a time and date, nothing else). I bring this up beacuse another scout in my troop did a blood drive a few years ago. After the scoutmaster confence (and a jackass stunt at school), the scoutmaster tried to revoke that sign-off, to no-avil. Ever since, this scoutmaster has been
cracking down on possible eagle canidates (including me). Just my two cents. KB1KOI 23:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So whats the point here? Do you have a question or are you just stating something? --Joebengo 23:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Blood drives are possible as Eagle projects, but the Scout has to set it up so he shows leadership--the reason people frown on them is that it's easy for one not to do much at a blood drive. NOw, if the SM already approved it, he can't unapprove and he's not the final sign off anyway as the district adv chair is. Rlevse 01:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is My understanding, and I am by no means an authority.  As far as I know, Blood Drives are frowned upon as Eagle Projects because they don't require as much leadership from the Candidate as most other projects.  However, they, as I understand, as much less frowned upon for Scouts with Special needs, or the mentally/physically handicapped.  I don't believe this is official policy, but that is what appears to me.  I DO NOT KNOW THIS FOR FACT.  The blood drives I have seen though required the scout to recruit X number of donors and get the word out and coordinate that.  Again, I don't know any of the above as fact, but this is what I believe from talking to, and listening to people.  Maybe it's local/unofficial/personal opinion.  God I Hope I disclaimed that enough.  Dachande (talk) 14:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct, most district adv chairs frown upon them for that reason.  — Rlevse • Talk •  14:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blood Drive As An Eagle Project 

message: Didn't we have the Billy Mitchell award here at one time and remove it?  Ditto for the Royal Rangers and some other non-Scouting groups.  While I can appreciate that other organizations describe their awards as their equivalent to Eagle Scout (which makes Eagle more notable), this is going to drag out like the Scouting awards list did.
I think that if editors want to compare their award to Eagle, then it should be done like we did with  List of highest awards in Scouting. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with gadget. Rlevse 18:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar awards in other organizations 

message: Previously on Wikipedia.  Back in March of 2006, we had a consensus to merge the Cub Scouting and the Boy Scouting advancement articles as I have proposed below.  These merges were made and the links and redirects fixed.  In June 2006, User:Cool Cat unilaterally reverted all of these changes.  There was a lot of discussion and acrimony, and we left it as it was.
It is now almost a year since the original merges and the articles in question have stood as stubs since then, with only a few minor edits.  I now propose to reinstate those merges.  These merges are effectively already done, as the information was moved back in March.
Merge Eagle Palms into Eagle Scout
As noted, this merge has effectively already been performed- this is a pro forma notice.
--Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: "The Eagle Scout Mentor pin was introduced in early 2004 in a gold-plated version, and was changed in early 2006 to pewter to match the mother and father pins."
The pin shown on ScoutStuff  has a gold color, but is not gold-plated.  Also, the mom's pin was redesigned at some point  to match the  dad's pin.  These are not pewter, but "antique finish".  The mom and dad pins are also available in sterling.
The Eagle Scout Award Kit  seems to show all three pins in a silver color.  I will try to take a photo of the current kit this coming weekend. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The kits had gold (gold colored) mentor pins at first, but then pewter ones for the last year or so but the last few I bought had gold color ones again. Not sure why.Rlevse 16:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is back to gold colored. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 00:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

text: If there's a good spot for it. Did you notice the mentor pins were gold, pewter for a year, then gold again? Rlevse 15:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pins 

message: Apparently the army no longer offers an immediate rank advancement to all Eagle Scouts who enlist, but still fast track them for advancement. Any one have a source on this? Boatman666 01:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I deliberately wrote this as "may receive advanced rank" to deal with differences between the service.  I never found a reference for the --Gadget850 ( Ed) 03:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Cool. This is in the article, see "Eagle Scouts who enlist in the U.S. military may receive advanced rank in recognition of their achievements". Consider joining the Scouting project. Rlevse 15:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  advanced U.S. military rank for Eagle Scouts  

message: Just curious as to why my edit making the reflist two columns was reverted.  I've seen this on several articles.  It makes the ref section more presentable, rather than a long list with large amounts of white space to the left.  I've never seen anyone oppose such a change before. Wrad 03:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you really need to put this here and on my talk page? See your talk page. You didn't explain either. 2-column refs are less presentable and harder to read. I've seen multiple disagreements over this, most NOT involving myself.Rlevse 11:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

text: This is a matter of style.  I prefer the single column myself.  When you click on the reference link in the article body, it pops down to the reference and highlights it; this works better with one column text in my opinion.  We had this same discussion when the article made the main page a few months back.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why revert? 

message: I am soliciting opinions on using the standard infobox.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 1,835,410 as of the end of 2005.  I just added the reference- I know I added this number, but can't figure why I did not have this referenced.  If anyone can find the numbers for 2006- the 2006 Annual Report is a bunch of fluff.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I have updated all of the images to PNG format with a common name format, a common size and a bit of cleanup.  If there are no objections, I will tag the old images as orphaned so the bot doesn't start dropping messages.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox and images

message: I came across this page and saw Since its introduction in 1911, the Eagle Scout rank has been earned by more than 1.7 million young men. in the lead. Could this be changed to Since its introduction in 1911, more than 1.7 million young men have earned the Eagle Scout rank. without loss of substance or style? 
Regards, 
Kushal
PS: I wanted to be extra careful since it is a lead paragraph of an important article. --Kushalt 21:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it.  This is a style refactor; but active is better than passive for this.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passive vs active 

message: Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project was forked back in July, but has failed to be expanded.  There is really no merge to be done, just redirect.
*support --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  12:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You do realize that the article is just a duplicate of the section in this article?  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  15:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

text: *Yes, but we can strip the second two paragraphs from the main article. I like the fact that the focused article has so many links. These get lost on the larger article. --evrik (talk) 16:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project merge 

message: Tuscarora Council, based out of Goldsboro, NC, just recently started naming Eagle Classes after a distinguished Eagle Scout. The distinguished Eagle is usually an Eagle who is a member of the local community and who has made major contributions towards some cause. The 2007 Class of Eagles was named the J. Louis Maxwell Distinguished Eagle Class. Has anyone else heard of local councils naming their Eagle Classes? I think this is a great tradition and one that should be more widely practiced.
Falcofire (talk) 17:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, BTW, I used to live in Goldsboro from Cub to Second Class Scout.  — Rlevse • Talk •  19:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: No, we just use the years.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  20:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming Eagle Scout Classes 

message: Has anyone ever heard of a tradition involving given an Eagle Scout a silver dollar (the one with the Eagle landing on the moon) at his COH?  The district Exec gave this to my brother and his friend at his COH Saturday (9-Feb-08) and acted like it was a time honored tradition since the dawn of scouting, but no one in my troop had ever heard of it.  The DE gave speech about the significance of the LEM being named the EAGLE and how like 75% of astronauts were involved in scouting and like a 1/3 were Eagles.  (Statistics not accurate, used as an example).  Anyone ever heard of this? And would it be worth including in the article?Dachande (talk) 14:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To state the obvious:  The "dawn of Scouting" is 1907, but the lunar landing was in 1969.  This sounds like a local or personal tradition.  Our previous Scoutmaster used to give a Scouting coin to new Eagles.  There is something of a U.S. Army tradition that a newly promoted first lieutenant is to give a silver dollar to the first enlisted soldier who salutes him.  Another military tradition is the challenge coin.  There is no standard practice here, so I don't think this needs to be included.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  14:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tradition?

message: good  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.101.232 (talk) 13:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At the end of the History section. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  10:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good 

message: There is no mention of how one might lose the honor of Eagle Scout. The top of the article mentions the quote "Once an Eagle, always an Eagle", but the distinction can be revoked if an Eagle Scout is convicted of a felony. Has anyone found good source material to write a section on award revocation? Unicycle77 (talk) 23:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "A Scout badge is a recognition of what a boy is able to do, not a reward for what he has done"—  * (this is the copy I happened to have at hand).  I'm not aware that there is a process for any award to be revoked.  "Once an Eagle, always an Eagle" really refers to any number of Eagle Scouts who might state "I was an Eagle"; this is incorrect, as they would always be an Eagle Scout, or Life, Star or any of the others.  --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  23:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've not heard of this, losing your Eagle for a felony. Do you have a sound reference for this? — Rlevse • Talk •  00:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

text: BSA does not revoke medals once they have been approved. A valid source will need to be provided that says otherwise.  It is possible to get an application turned down, but they don't revoke them after they are awarded other then maybe for obvious fraud in the appliation process or something like that.  Yes, people have returned their medals, but that is by their own choice.Marauder40 (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See — there is no procedure to revoke an award. I am not aware that the BSA has expelled atheist or agnostic youth. The BSA seems to now use the WOSM policy of treating youths who declare atheism as being in a stage of development and experimentation. See Talk:Boy Scouts of America membership controversies/Religion. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 16:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Award revocation

message: NESA has a new Eagle Scout history; it is pretty nice, except that the author is confused on the appearance of skill awards. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  13:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NESA history 

message: I know we've already got this line: "Eagle Scouts who enlist in the U.S. military may receive advanced rank in recognition of their achievements.[32][33]". I've found some more about this for the article. On the back cover of the most recent Eagletter (those in NESA get this), there is this blurb:
:Military Services Seek Eagle Scouts
:It's no secret that Boy Scout training is invaluable to young men who choose to join the military. That's why America's armed services let recruits who are Eagle Scouts enlist at the grade of E-2. In addition, recruits may be eligible to enlist at the grade of E-3 if they've earned the Eagle Scout Award and meet certain additional criteria, such as having earned 24 or more hours of college credit.
Here's the citation for it (see the markup): 
I'll leave it to those who've written the article to integrate this better than I can. -MBK004 02:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a tweak in the rule. It may vary from service to service too.  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advanced Rank upon enlistment 

message: The controversies section references a Philadelphia Inquirer article appears to be biased. The article states that "scouts, gay and straight, have returned their badges." It gives no examples except for one case. This does not justify the plural language used suggesting a mass renouncement. I also question the reliability of the Inquirer's article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DMGTN (talk • contribs) 03:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick search will show similar articles with other names, the Inquirer article was probably one of the more neutral; this is balanced by the BSA statement. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  12:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies Section 

message: Unofficial sources put the 2008 Eagle census at 52,025 for a total of 1,990,905. Estimates are that the two-millionth Eagle Scout will be awarded between 5 and 10 March. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  21:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! By unofficial, I mean we don't have a reliable source other than word of mouth; we need something in print or web. Given the turnaround from National, the 2ME is probably already in the paperwork chain. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  19:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two million 

message: 1911 - 1924 unknown
Time Period	Last name	First name	Date of Birth	Date of Eagle	Age at Eagle                   	Troop     	Council             	Citation
to         	Hubbard  	L. Ron    	             	             	13 years, 14 days              	Troop 10  	Washington DC.      	
to         	Wheeler  	Jack      	             	             	12 years, 10 months, and 6 days	Troop 7   	Glendale, California	
to         	Voelker  	Nathan C. 	             	             	12 years 6 months and 15 days  	Troop 1155	Anaheim, California 	
to present 	Bell     	Zac       	             	             	12 years, 4 months @ 25 days   	Troop 51  	Gillette, Wyoming   	
Raw stats from website
*L Ron ...
*L. Ron Hubbard, Troop 10, Washington DC.
:On April 1, 1924 @ 13 years and 14 days
:Youngest Eagle Scout: 04/01/24 - ?
*Jack Wheeler, Troop 7, Glendale California
:On September 15, 1958 @ 12 years, 10 months, and 6 days
:Youngest Eagle Scout: 09/15/58 - ?
*Timothy A. Knotts, San Diego California
:On December 15, 1973 @ 13years, and 25 days
*Mark Harrison, Troop 59, Fort Valley Georgia
:On October 20, 1976 @ 13 years and 22 days
*Nathan C. Voelker, Troop 1155, Anaheim California
:On March 10, 1998 @ 12 years 6 months and 15 days
:Youngest Eagle Scout: 03/10/98 - 03/30/98
*Zac Bell, Troop 51, Gillette Wyoming
:On March 30, 1998 @ 12 years, 4 months @ 25 days.
:Youngest Eagle Scout: 03/30/98 - ?
*Michael Bentzein, Troop 1155, Anaheim California
:On August 20, 1998 @ 12 years, 11 months, and 6 days
*Thomas Boyle, Troop 748, Lakewood Colorado
:On December 5, 1998 @ 12 years, 7months, and 18 days
*Jake Tobin, Troop 51, Gillette Wyoming
:On February 18, 1999 @ 12 years, 8 months, and 7 days
*William McLaughlin, Provo Utah
:12 years, 9 months and 9 days
----
*Interesting? Newport Backbay (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My own son made Eagle at 12y, 9m, and some odd days. That was in 2004. So no way was Hubbard youngest ever. Maybe the youngest at the time, but no way these days. I think it's just so much COFS propaganda.  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And the email rejected, so that page is not being maintained.  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I can prove my son's but it would not be wise to put his name, dob, and Eagle date on wiki. ;-)  — Rlevse • Talk •  18:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: That's under current rules, the rules haven't always been the same.  — Rlevse • Talk •  20:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Youngest

message: This is awkward:
The Eagle Scout and Explorer Silver Award are the only Boy Scout ranks that are recognized on an adult Scouter's uniform as knots. The knots are worn as an adult recognition of the youth award as a red, white, and blue striped square knot of different designs
Silver has never been a rank and it is certainly not a Boy Scout rank; and yes, Boy Scout can ambiguously refer to the BSA or the Boy Scouting section. Why do we need to bring Silver into this? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that info is incorrect.  If all BSA is included, then there is also the Arrow of Light, Exploring GOLD, and Venturing Silver.  I have reverted the changes as extraneous and incorrect. - IanCheesman (talk) 20:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explorer Silver Award 

message: The pictures of the Eagle Scout medals do not correspond to the verbage in the paragraph on the "History of the medal".  Fourth Paragraph: "In 1933, BSA was removed from all the Eagle Scout insignia, including the medal.  In 1955 the obverse of the eagle pendant was made flat so it could be engraved."  These two sentences are correct.  However, the pictures of the of the Eagle Scout medals next to the paragraph on the History of the medal shows an Eagle Scout medal dated 1920-1978 with a BSA on the eagle, and shows a medal dated 1955-1969 without BSA on the front of the eagle on the medal.  THESE PICTURES ARE MISLABLED.
Sources: Hanging in my office are my father's and my Eagle Scout award.  My father earned his Eagle Scout medal in 1934 and it does not have BSA on the eagle in the medal and it has engraved feathers on the back.  I earned my Eagle Scout medal in 1962 and it has BSA on the front of the eagle and the eagle has a flat shiny back".   Douglas Fir Green (talk) 00:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching that— the images were out of order. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the medal 

message: I'm pretty certain I recall contemporary sources stating that Bill Clinton was an Eagle Scout back around when he was first elected.  Now, whether the BSA later rescinded it or not based on his conduct I don't know, but I'm pretty certain he received it. 加持 (talk) 05:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ford is the ONLY President who was an Eagle. Clinton was only in Cub Scouts. JFK was a Star Scout. For more see List_of_notable_Scouts#Boy_Scouts_of_America and List_of_Eagle_Scouts_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)#Incorrectly_regarded_as_Eagle_Scout; so if you saw something that said Clinton was an Eagle, it was simply WRONG.  — Rlevse • Talk •  09:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: More at Talk:List of Scouts/List of Presidents of the United States involved in Scouting. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Only" President? 

message: I removed the statement about Obama's signature. This appears to happen whenever there is a new president due to a delay in signature authorization. See http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/eaglescouts.asp. In the long run, this isn't notable or important.
---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well Obama certainly took longer than most to start signing them.  — Rlevse • Talk •  12:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Still not notable.  We have not documented the date began by any other president (or have we?) as it does not add value to the article.  Its only purpose in the article would be as an axe to grind. Bakkster Man (talk) 12:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been looking over forums, newspapers and the like, but there is nothing on this for other presidents. I would not be surprised to see that Nixon's signature remained through 1974. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You can call it WP:OR but personal experience in being an advancement chair tells me Obama took longer than most to make the change.  — Rlevse • Talk •  18:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the issue is that it provides no encyclopedic purpose, and its primary intent is as a dig at Obama.  Note WP:UNDUE, we spend only one sentence in the entire article mentioning that the US President signs Eagle Certificates, and only 4 sentences including that one discussing the Certificates as a whole.  Any delay by the sitting PotUSA in signing Certificates does not seem to be worth spending 20% of the Certificate section discussing.  If the section were longer, perhaps it could be discussed, if there was a valid argument that the discussion was WP:NPOV.  Perhaps usage of WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV, again if there were an argument that there was encyclopedic value.  That requires someone prove it is notable beyond the purpose of criticism of Obama (see WP:SOAP). Bakkster Man (talk) 21:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obama 

message: I have removed the citations in the lead sections,  because they were redundant and the manual of style advices us not to use them here only if strongly needed (WP:LEADCITE).
Sincerely, NikitaUtiu (talk) 10:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations in lead section removal 

message: The number of Boy Scouts mention in the right corner is incorrect.
The correct number is 837,343 as refernced by "AtGlance" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torpedo475 (talk • contribs) 
:That number is not in this article. It is in Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America), but as noted it is for troops and teams. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Boy Scouts

message: I know that the BSA and Eagle Centennial patches are real (I'm getting the 2012 one in November), but should they be consideration a new type of ealge patch or just a notable variation of the 1989-2010, 2011 one (It currents says that there are nine kinds that counts one of the Centennial ones)? -Dracuns (talk) 12:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The BSA centennial and Eagle Scout centennial badges are considered separate variations. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Badges

message: I found this article about some changes to the Eagle Required list. Sustainability will be a brand new merit badge introduced at the 2013 National Jamboree, and will be an option instead of Environmental Science. Also on January 1, 2014, Cooking will become Eagle Required again. This will increase the number of Eagle Required Merit Badges to 13, but keep the number of merit badges for Eagle at 21. I added this information to the article, does anyone think we should remove it until we get closer to the date of the changes. - Dracuns (talk) 03:27, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I just had not gotten around to add it. I cleaned up things a bit. BTW: the BSA publication is Scouting, The Scout Association publication is Scouting Magazine. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 09:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eagle Required Merit Badges 

message: I was just looking at the article, and I think that Palms would fit better under After becoming an Eagle Scout.  — Dracuns (talk) 17:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: After is more about later in life; palms are more a continuation of Eagle Scout. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 00:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palms 

message: Reference 41 is no longer a live link; the only reason I have posted so on the talk page and not simply fixed it myself is because I assume there must be a better way to update this than setting ref. 42 to be ref. 41, ref. 43 to be ref 42., etc, etc. If you know of a way to do this, by all means please tell me, and I will gladly remove the dead reference. k2trf (talk) 06:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:DEADREF and Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Facepalm. Thanks! And thanks for the links, knowledge = power! k2trf (talk) 15:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The only outlet to report on Clinton's signature being removed, as far as I can tell, is WorldNetDaily, a heavily-biased source of questionable veracity.  Do we have any other means of verifying this information as true? Thargor Orlando (talk) 18:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Searching for more. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to be an individual protest, not a "the president no longer signed certificates from 1999-2002."  Worthy of note? Thargor Orlando (talk) 20:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not overly concerned with keeping this. I think this crept in with some stuff about Obama not signing certificates, which is not true. I recall chopping all that out. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:36, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good.  As you were the one who had reverted me before, I'll move forward and remove it.  If there's further discussion, I'll continue watching for it. Thargor Orlando (talk) 15:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidential signatures 

message: The data on Eagle Scout Badges returned is over 10 years out of date.  Can someone knowledgeable on this topic update this to reflect current/recent events?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.138.84 (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: We aren't a newspaper, so we don't need to have every latest breaking news bite; see Wikipedia:Recentism. Wait a bit and let it develop. For those who aren't keeping up... And Time notes Bill Gates as an Eagle Scout. And there is no such thing as a  Eagle Scout. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 22:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats strange I normally I heard Bill Gates was a Life Scout, his father William H. Gates, Sr. is an Eagle Scout. In fact Bill Gates said that his biggest failure was that he was a life scout. I looked at that article and it is misleading, it said that he earned the highest award for service to youth, which is the silver bufflo. -Dracuns (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

text: From Bill Gates: "...the Silver Buffalo Award by the Boy Scouts of America, its highest award for adults, for his service to youth." This has nothing to do with Eagle Scout. His service to you involved the The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I would be one of those someones. The organization of TLSUA has no connection to the Eagle Scout Award. It was formed in reaction to the policy changes by the BSA (although they seem to be have the same policy on gay youth) and is already noted in Boy Scouts of America membership controversies which is where it belongs. And "a number of Eagle Scouts" in this instance appears to be two. --  Gadget850 talk 16:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy

message: This article is a lot uglier and less informative since the images went missing. --evrik (talk) 04:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears from the discussion last year that the concern was to protect the rights of those who had photographed the awards. I've inserted two award images into the article that are not fair-use but are hosted on Commons. —Eustress 21:38, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing images

message: I'm not sure if this should be added, but there is currently a missing requirement for palms; this being the board of review (different from conference with unit leader). (It is done within the unit like other ranks, unlike that for the Eagle Scout award itself.) Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.97.181.96 (talk) 19:07, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palm requirements 

message: There are some excellent sources regarding Eagle scouts that are up-to-date , , .
:  Bfpage |leave a message  23:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Interested editors

message: I've used checklinks to identify reference issues and have made an update.
:  Bfpage |leave a message  21:04, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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