Talk:Jack Thompson (activist)/Archive 12

message: If I recall, JT threatened wikipedia with a "lawsuit" because the information on here wasn't correct. I find it strange that it is conveniently ommited in the article about him, about how Jacky boy threatened wikipedia.
http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/228672.html?mode=reply
:If nothing else, this link should be added to the article links at the bottom of the page, not to mention some of the content of the link added to the article about Thompson.  It speaks on the character of Thompson, is a fine example of how trigger-happy he is when it comes to filing lawsuits, and would be instrumental in pointing out that Wikipedia acknowledges his vandalism attempt on the page. --PeanutCheeseBar 18:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jack's Wikipedia Threat?

message: Note that Archives 1-7 are pre-WP:OFFICE article discussions.  Archives 8-11 concern the current state of this article.
*As a fun note, I just put them in a much better format, and the archival system from 1-5 is strange, lots of overlapping.  They also don't seem to be long enough to warrant an archive.  From Archive 6 on, they are pretty long and extensive. Hbdragon88 06:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Archives

message: There is a new article up now. Everything in it comes from reputable mainstream sources. I would say that the weakest sources here are either a small local publication like the Toledo Blade, or perhaps a paper like the New York Post, depending on what you think of it. In any case, this level of sourcing will be the minimum expected for the article henceforth.
If a proposed source is not as good or better than these sources, it must be discussed on the talk page first. Without a strong case to specifically use one and general agreement on its inclusion, a lesser source will not be allowed - no LiveJournal. All additions and changes must provide a reference. Anything that doesn't will be summarily reverted. --Michael Snow 14:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New article

message: http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/police/2924321.html
He apparently told police to search a suspects house for video games, due to his belief that games make killers.
IanC 21:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The latter option is more likely:  nothing will, because nothing is "serious" in the infotainment biz.  Black-and-white worldviews and extremist, frothing soundbites sell ad time.  They're good for business.  It's why people like Thompson, Springer, Coulter, and O'Reilly aren't working at car washes, AMSCOTs, and Checkers'.  Hatred and venom are entertainment.  Kasreyn 02:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Another SLAPP injunction against him might just do the trick. Raul654 20:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not appropriate.  Using the law as a blunt instrument to silence someone is always wrong, even with someone as misguided and hateful as Thompson.  Freedom of expression includes even those, like Thompson, who only want to spray venom and lay blame rather than solving problems.  In a sane world, where people actually bothered to educate themselves, Thompson's grandstanding nonsense statements would be laughed to silence everywhere he went.  It's a sad statement of how uneducated and credulous journalists and the public are, that he is actually given airtime as if he made sense.  Kasreyn 02:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you’re a hit man or a video gamer,” 

message: Thompson hopes retailers end up in court so often, that they will choose to stop selling violent games altogether.Centanni, Marie. “Video Game Bill Aims at Restricting Sales to Minors.” WAFB Channel 9, Baton Rouge, May 12, 2006
I know he said it, but the line is completely out of place where it is, and is just inciting a POV.  I removed it for now but wanted to open debate.--Tollwutig 15:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It does seem out of place where it is. I think it should go with his legislation in Lousiana, since that's where he made the quote. Jabrwock 15:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with it being in the article, just not where it was. At the end of that paragraph it just stuck out, didn't read well, and looked like a POV screaming "SEE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO!" I don't mind the statement being in the article but it is not something that really belongs in a summary (which is what the introduction is for).  That is a detail, and thus belongs under the appropriate heading. --Tollwutig 12:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we really need this line? 

message: A freeware game inspired by Thompson called I'm O.K. is available at http://imokgame.com/index.html
The game idea is that after his son is killed by a gamer, his father seeks vengence against the video game industry and others that led to his son's death.
Old news, and it is included sort of in the Modest Proposal section...--Tollwutig 14:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson Inspires Video Game 

message: Shouldn't there be one, since there are many critics of his views and his tactics?
--165.124.162.170 02:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone is afraid of litigation, it's just that putting in a 'criticism' section would only invite more non-NPOV edits. -- Desire Campbell 24.222.232.225 17:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

text: He's already been at it once.. check archive 7 I think, the WP:Office looked at it earlier this year. SirFozzie 07:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: That having been said, we need to add those back into the article, if they can be verified.  Thompson may be able to hide behind the law when it comes to copyrighted images, but if we can find relatively unbiased websites with proof of his hypocrisy and criticisms, then we can use them as sources.  Unlike Wikipedia, there ARE individuals out there who know that Thompson is mostl full of hot air and hollow threats, and have ignored his bullying tactics.
Here is the straw man criticism article. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A Criticism Section?

message: Is a good, professional photo. I don't know about licensing, but thought I'd bring it up in case someone wants to fiddle with it. President Lethe 04:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to email dennis at gamepolitics and see if we can get the source and copyright for some of the pics he has been using for Thompson.  There is one I know is most likely public domain as it is Thompson testifying before the LA House committee.--Tollwutig 13:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I very much prefer this photo. It does look more professional than that old TV picture. It came from Kotaku.com. Heh, notice the receding hairline. :p KungFu-tse 18:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe this was in this article before, but was removed because it was ripped from his self-written book. I can't quite remember the details but it was copyright violation so the picture was reverted to the one you see now. -86.134.68.16 20:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I sm still showing the tv pic, which is awful... bleh forgot to sign--Tollwutig 13:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The copyright probably belongs to The Advocate. President Lethe 15:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New photo 

message: "Only hitmen or video gamers shoot people in the face."
Well, what about jealous ex-husbands or wives or employees? What about mentally unstable people?
Take a look at what he's saying: video games make every child a violent killing machine.
Puh-lease. I'm a minor; I play Silent Hill and Halo. Yet, you don't see ME going around shooting random people or mutilating them with a katana, do you?
Yes, there ARE people who have killed, claiming to be inspired by video games. But, compare that number of people to the number of people who PLAY videogames in the USA alone: it's comparing an anthill to a mountain. It's only people with some sort of mental problem that do the killing, usually; the casual gamer doesn't randomly want to shoot people because of a violent game they've played. Video games provide outlets to most people, not training devices!
:You're kind of preaching to the choir.  I haven't seen any Thompson supporters on this talk page.  Besides, it's not really intended for debate about him.  (Not that I really have a leg to stand on there, since I've aired my own personal opinions here.)  Kasreyn 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  He just doesn't add up... 

message: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003049735_policefoundation09m.html
As chairman of the Seattle Police Foundation, Michael Malone has helped raise money for life-saving gear for city cops. He also sits on the board of a software firm that sells blockbuster games in which gamers try to elude police and kill them.
Florida attorney Jack Thompson, who testified in Olympia in 2003 in support of the law, found Malone's name among Take-Two's board members Thursday and sent an e-mail to the Seattle Police Foundation and local media.
Malone cannot take money from Take-Two and "portray himself as a friend of the officers who lay their lives on the line," Thompson said. "I think it's unethical, hypocritical and duplicitous. The Seattle Police Foundation and the men and women they represent should be pretty upset." Jabrwock 15:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson outs Take Two board member 

message: Please discuss here if you have any questions or concerns.  Thanks!  Kasreyn 18:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I saw they look good.  Thanks for cleaning up some of the stuff, particularly my wording on the second paragraph.   If you can find somewhere to put in the sentence I removed feel free to do so (see DO WE REALLY NEED THIS LINE).  It's always nice to have new people come clean up stuff some of us have been reading for months.--Tollwutig 12:56, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section for any discussion of my recent NPOV edit 

message: '...Thompson rejected this overture and forwarded the flowers to some of his industry foes, with such comments as “Discard them along with the decency you discarded long ago. I really don’t care. Grind them up and smoke them if you like.”'
I'd just like to take a moment to unerline this.
What an ignorant, arrogant, self-centered little dweeb this man is. A community of people that he has outright attacked and slandered without any logical justification make an absolutely mature, civil and beautiful gesture to approach him and ask him to put the daggers away for just a minute, and his reaction? Throw the (expensive!) goodwill gift into the garbage, right before slinging-off yet more insults and condescension. If he didn't WANT the flowers, he could've at LEAST followed-through on the advice and DONATED them to a local HOSPITAL (...in all hope, perhaps the 'industry opponents' he forwarded them to will have a better appreciation for them).
And HE wants to start throwing-out the accustations of human indecency, anti-social behavior and moral ambiguity? The man needs to arrange a date with his own reflection.
You're not really telling us anything new, but this is Wikipedia so in the article itself we have to keep that Point of View out --Tollwutig 14:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flowers for Jack 

message: What degree does he actually have? LL.B., LL.M., J.D., S.J.D.? --Mr. Orange 62.168.125.219 22:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Degree

message: I question the objectivity of this phrase; I have heard it used in a disparaging manner.  It should be replaced with "radio personality," "radio talk show host" or some other variant.  Also, after reading the Stern article and its inclusion of the negative connotation, I am further puzzled by its use in this article.
Varmintx 10:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concurr - however, this term was used in the page for Howard Stern.  I suggest you bring this up in the Howers Stern talk page before making the change here (if not done so already), as other pages on Wikipedia appear to use this term. --Sigma 7 02:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it more appropriate to describe Stern as he is described in the first sentence of his article, as a "radio and TV personality."  That's a more objective and enyclopedic way of describing him. --ElKevbo 02:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the Stern page, it is used in the context that he is called a shock jock not that he is a shock jock.  I will go ahead and change it here and I would suggest to it be changed anywhere else it is found.
Varmintx 21:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I am the one who originally used the term and I actually like the way the sentence has been reworded.  I originally re-wrote the paragraph in order to take out a misplaced sentence.  I also mentioned my feelings wouldn't be hurt if someone reworded it as I hate having to make major changes to the main article.--Tollwutig 18:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "shock jock" 

message: I've been looking everywhere, google video, you-tube, but I can't find any videos of him on the air. Like that picture of him on the Wiki. Anyone have a video of that interview? I'd really like to see this guy in action.
::I don't know of any videos of this guy, altough there is audio.  You can search through the archives at gamepolitics.com.  I'm pretty sure they still have some of his radio appearance .mp3 out there.--Tollwutig 18:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a YouTube of this on Joystiq - better than the one above. 
   http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/10/g4-jack-thompson-yell-at-each-other Maluka 04:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Videos of the guy? 

message: Not for nothing, but shouldn't there be some sort of counter point in this article. Not along the lines of "He's a nut" or anything, but shouldn't there be some sourced, verified counter points to his statments in the article, that is, if were trying to make it truly encyclopedic, then shouldn't counter views be presented as well, or is Wikipedia to affraid of legal action to put anything that is critical of thompson in the article? Just a thought.
:I don't really think it fits since this isn't about his ideas, it is about him, as a person. So we state his ideas and opinions and then link to the articles about those so the people can then read those and decide for themselves. But maybe someone else thinks different. Konman72 04:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a counter point can only be made if he makes a factual statement that can be contradicted. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 05:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think your analysis is correct, Konman72.  A very brief summary of counterpoints with pointers to further information may be appropriate in some limited cases.  But nothing more since this is a biographical article.  --ElKevbo 05:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a biographical article, we don't do counterpoints, as they'd end up POV.  Basically we can state his beliefs, and then state that people disagree with him, of course referencing both. If he states something that is false and we can get a referenced quote, and a counterpoint without doing research ourselves then we can put that in.--Tollwutig 18:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counterpoints 

message: Thompson's website has been vandalised in the last few months, i dont think anyone noticed or cared, but it still does contain his "public rant" about his actions against the florida bar, perhaps this should be included on the main page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.36.35 (talk • contribs) 05:24, 2 August 2006
:First off, you need to verify that theflabar.org is Jack Thompson's homepage.  While it may be considered "common knowledge" that he wrote the webpage, you need to verify it first.  Just remember that the DNS information may not be sufficient - it just means that a person filled in the information to make it look like it came from him.  --Sigma 7 01:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  theflabar.org 

message: Not like i have to mention it on this website, but since Gamepolitics.com just put a new article up about Thompson in Louisianna, they'll start to come in force once the article gets around the web.--Tollwutig 18:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Be ready for Vandals 

message: Rockstar has dropped support for the Xbox for Bully, which is now a PS2 exclusive. Keep an eye out for a reputable news site mentioning it. GTA:IV is still coming out for the 360, it just looks like R* is reducing the number of older console titles it's releasing. If the PS3 was out I imagine they would have dropped PS2 support as well... Jabrwock 19:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bully dropped from Xbox 

message: Better from the horses' mouth than a 3rd party, eh? Jabrwock 16:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely you jest? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. I just added the link to the external links. You can find the debate here. But there's nothing new to report. —msikma <user_talk:msikma> 12:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tivo: Jack going to be on Attack of the Show 

message: this artical needs a new picture look at AOTS (hes being interviewed now) that picture looks really outdated 67.35.181.14 23:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new picture 

message: "His Excellency Yuri Ushakov
Russian Federation Ambassador to the United States
Embassy of the Russian Federation
2650 Wisconsin Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. Via email and fax to 202-298-5735
Re: Knife Attack in Moscow Synagogue Allegedly Inspired by Violent American Video Game, Postal 2
Dear Ambassador Ushakov:
I am an expert, recognized as such in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Spain, and
elsewhere, as to the disturbing nexus between violent video game play and real-world violence.
I have been repeatedly interviewed as to this nexus by the BBC and by major news media in this country.
As you know, a young person in Moscow just went on a knifing spree, allegedly inspired to do so by the
incredibly violent PC video game, Postal 2.
In this game, by the way, a player can place his virtual gun into the anus of a cat to use the feline
as a silencer. That is how depraved is Vince Desi, the head of the company that makes this game. He
is a sociopath.
This game is being distributed around the world by Mr. Desi’s US company, Running with Scissors, whose
corporate slogan is “To kill or not to kill? What a stupid question.”
We have had a large number of killings in this country linked by law enforcement to these types of
murder simulation games. Our US Defense Department actually uses virtual reality killing simulators
like this to break down the inhibition of new recruits to kill, so of course it has this same effect
on civilians.
Running with Scissors has recently entered into an arrangement whereby it can distribute its murder
simulators via the Internet, thereby bypassing various nations’ restrictions on the distribution of
such harmful material to minors. The Russian Federation must stop this practice.
I am a Republican who can tell you that United States President George W. Bush has direct financial
ties to the violent video game industry—such as Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc., through massive
campaign contributions by the political lobbying firm of Blank Rome—so there is a collaboration of
sorts between the US government and the violent video game industry to export this dangerous garbage
around the globe. In fact, our Defense Department has actually subsidized the creation of some of
these virtual reality killing games at an agency known as the Institute for Creative Technologies.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is this program’s chief enthusiast.
I appeared on ABC World News Tonight blowing the whistle on this nonsense, which also extensively
involves the Sony Corporation.
Please feel free to contact me for additional information as soon as possible. I think at the very
least the Russian Federation should lodge a formal protest with the United States government regarding
the importation of Postal 2 and the mayhem at the Moscow synagogue that it may very well have caused.
Regards, Jack Thompson"
http://www.myth-games.com/news1003.htm
Jewish leaders soon dismissed this link (http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/01/12/jews_demand_russian_action_after_synagogue_attack/)
Does this deserve a section in the article?
:If any of the major newspapers picks it up, absolutely.  I don't know how familiar you are with this article, but we're keeping a pretty high standard for references, and www.myth-games.com is not going to make it.  Thanks for bringing it up, though. --Maxamegalon2000 02:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Ambassador Ushakov: I am an expert... I didn't have the "gamer cruelty" in me to force my brain past that. To business, I think this can be considered real material once it's solid. Except we've seen the conspiracy theory before. --Falos 19:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian Letter 

message: I picked 100 articles at random from :Category:American lawyers and not a single one has appended "Esq" at the end of the name. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes does not seem to support the use of this particular honorific for an American lawyer. I have removed the "Esq". —ptk✰fgs 17:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Esq 

message: Because editing has been disabled, I thought I'd point something out. Jack is quoted in this article as stating "Murder simulators are not protected free speech". However, it should also be noted that 7 courts have stated, in writing in Judical ruling that "Games are 1st amendment protected speech, inseperable from there interactive elements" Thats taken from the michigan decision. It might be nice to show that there are those, espcially judges, who disagree with him, rather then giving his ego a blow job by quoting him without counterpoint. After all, how can you claim to be encyclopedic if your only showing his view of something?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.244.227.194 (talk • contribs) 
: As to the question of how we can be encyclopedic if we're only showing his view, I would point out that the article is about him, and not his views specifically.  And as for showing that there are those who disagree with him, I think we do a pretty good job of pointing out where his facts are verifiably countered.  His opinions are his opinions, though, and I don't think it's necessary to mention that people disagree with his opinions.  Very few opinions are unanimously accepted.  But I don't know, that's just me. --Maxamegalon2000 17:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction 

message: He's threatening to go to court if he doesn't get one from his congressman.  I think this definitely merits inclusion, but does this mean we should move the Bully paragraph to the litigation section? --Maxamegalon2000 14:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  He appears to have filed suit. http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/JT-Bully-complaint.doc We'll need to of course wait until some mainstream news picks it up, or we can get the official suit from court records.--Tollwutig 16:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson seeking a subpoena for an early copy of Bully 

message: Here is a link for someone to write up the Lousiana Law which Thompson drafted being enjoined:
http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060825/APA/608250712
and from what can be considered a reputable source too.  --Tollwutig 17:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks for the link. --Maxamegalon2000 19:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:   Edited it to be factual.  There is only a preliminary injuction right now, to be considered unconstitutional it'd have to be a permanent injunction.  --69.132.103.165 23:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank God for common sense Judges like James Brady standing against crap laws like this.  Jack Thompson needs to go away. --Trajan, 00:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louisiana Law Preliminarily Enjoined 

message: I know the idea is not to leave up permanent locks but the web is going to cover Thompson a lot and everytime someone puts a new article somewhere the Vandals flood in.  Ideas anyone?  I think after the Louisiana Law battle is over, and Bully is released things will slow down.--Tollwutig 15:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is everytime a new story comes out of Lousiana or about Bully there is a new spurt of vandalism which results in a temporary lock just about every time.  You can even follow when Joystiq or Gamepolitics covers one of those stories by looking at the History of the vandalism.--70.10.88.141 12:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue is taken care of by adding the equivalant of the Slashdotted tag.  This tag, as you know, causes people that are already reviewing high-vandalism chance articles to simply drop by the JT article and supress any vandalism attempts.  There may also be another page where it lists recent changes from articles tagged in this manner (of if there isn't, it's a very good idea.)  --32.60.78.135 00:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandal Lock until mid October? 

message: THOMPSON IS GUILTY OF:
1. SLANDER
2. LIBEL
3. CRIMINAL HARASSMENT
WHY IS THIS NOT IN HIS ARTICLE???
Because it's original research and not verifiable.  --Maxamegalon2000 02:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GUILTY 

message: http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1526&Itemid=2
Miami attorney Jack Thompson today was expected to file a wrongful death lawsuit against Cody Posey and the makers of "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" saying the video game taught Posey how to fire a weapon and turned him into an "extraordinarily effective" killer
Jabrwock 19:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've used the other newspaper's article, which has been more recently updated.  I also added a line from the article to the section on his relationship with the industry and gamers. --Maxamegalon2000 02:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree, but I think we can only include it if a source mentions it in relation to this lawsuit.  We do have a link to the article on Cody, so if you want to vent some frustration, feel free to improve that article.  --Maxamegalon2000 02:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Lawsuit in Albuquerque 

message: I've skimmed through the article twice, but I don't see anything on which one he is. Could anyone clear this up for me?
J-Guy 20:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither.  He's a civil litigator. Ace of Sevens 20:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prosecutor or Defense Attorney? 

message: City says Biltmore golf course is below par
I don't think this is close to notable enough for inclusion in the article, but I thought I'd just mention it here in case he decides to sue someone about it. --Maxamegalon2000 22:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Golf is a murder simulator!  It trains people to hit things with clubs, with power and accuracy.  First they hit golf balls; next they'll be clubbing people to death.  Ban the sport now! *Dan T.* 22:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson taking on a golf course? 

message: It's just a brief mention on GamePolitics.com, but it says that Thompson claims he's back in court with Neil Rogers, and just recently attended a hearing. Can anyone with access to court documents in Florida verify this? 139.142.43.31 17:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson back in court with Neil Rogers? 

message: Washington Post Miami Herald Jabrwock 17:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What grounds do courts in Miami or anywhere else in the U.S. have to even consider prior-restraint censorship of a game?  That sounds unconstitutional to me. *Dan T.* 19:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's obscene, incitement to riot, or a state secret, they have grounds. But other than that, none. Thompson was trying to go the "it's dangerous to health" route. Jabrwock 18:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miami court orders review of ''Bully'', Thompson says '''Yay''' 

message: Seeing as how he actually went through with filing the public nuisance suit, shouldn't this be under litigation? Jabrwock 18:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public Nuisance complaint 

message: This page is >64KB.  Recommending Archive12. --32.60.78.135 06:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive point 

message: I am new to this but is it worth notingf that following his tirades against the sims 2 several memebrs of the online modding community emailed him explaining the nature of the game and the fact that nay nudity was not photorealistic. They recieved rude responses (if any) one of which said "I refuse to be intimidated by a group of gaming thugs" and antoher one of which threatened to sue the sender, despite the fact that the sent email was not in any way rude or threatening.
:I think we mention Thompson's objections to The Sims 2 briefly in the article.  I recommend you take a look at the types of sources we're using in the article; they're probably a bit more respectable than what you may see in other articles.  If you can find a source as reputable as the ones we're using that says what you've written here, feel free to add it to the article, or tell us here what the source is, and someone else can add it.  Note, however, that gaming sites are not appropriate sources for this article, seeing as how they are usually pretty biased against Thompson. --Maxamegalon2000 21:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worth noting?