Talk:American Idol/Archive 1

message: We are trying to find out who is the favorite idol. can you please post you votes on my talk page?  Pkazz' Lets go wick 23:52, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiIdol

message: The "Once in Hollywood" section describes the procedure introduced this season as if it were present in all seasons.  This needs to be noted as the procedure for season 4, with a description of the previous semifinal sequence (which was drastically different) mentioned.  Also, if I understand correctly, these aren't the finals per se, as that is reserved for when the performers start playing on the big stage, instead of the small studio.  Should the table be modified to only include the final 12, since that's the cutoff point used for the other seasons? Mo0[talk] 03:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jumped the gun

message: Editors of this article might want to register their opinion regarding Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A.J. Gil. Gamaliel 01:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: EJay Day and Kimberly Caldwell got expanded very well after facing possible deletion, but A.J. Gil has remained a stub.  Does he have any fans around to expand his entry? *Dan* 03:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  vfd of idol contestant article 

message: 1)Did Ruben Studdard ever have a #1 single? 2) Did anyone who took part in American Idol (not including the winners) have a #1 single? Greetings from Germany --slg 14:32, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No and no. Mike H (Talking is hot) 14:14, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Kimberley Locke's singles Up On the Housetop(US AC) and 8th World Wonder(Billboard) were. 66.177.3.102 22:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions from Germany

message: Should some common criticisms of American Idol also be included? One may be the voting process of American Idol, in which people are allowed to vote as many times as they wish (not sure if this has changed). 
Some other common criticisms may be that no winner of American Idol has ever been a rapper or a rock singer, or many other styles of singing; although, Bo Bice did come close.
:If they can be added in a NPOV manner, sure. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:13, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
::I would think the most common criticism would be rigging of the contest. Does FOX publicly announce (or make available) the exact poll results? 'Cause I have yet to meet a person who wasn't pissed that Bice lost. --Zeromaru 02:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There are always some people that are pissed that their favorite lost.  I'm sure it was close with Bice and Underwood, but the results said that Underwood won.  I'm sure many people were pissed that Aiken didn't win and that Fantasia did.  That just happens. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:05, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Many debate that the Aiken/Studdard results were due in part to the limitations of the phone lines. 139.62.222.225 00:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: Should FOX delay American Idol until march or April of 2006 because of the upcoming Winter Olympics in Turin? That is a good idea the viewers should appreciate and enjoy watching the 2006 Winter Olympics first before watching American Idol.
:Should they? Not in my opinion. Will they? Probably not. Should we be discussing this on an article talk page? Definitely not. Hermione1980 19:27, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: AFAIK, the show is scheduled to start in January as usual. The Olympics won't really affect American Idol, as they are not on FOX and it is overnight in Turin when it airs. CrazyC83 03:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Idol 5 to be delayed until March or April 2006? 

message: I am not a Constantine fanatic but I admit it's probably one of the most well-written (or well-developed) articles I have seen on wikipedia about an American Idol contestant. What do you think? Wikipedia:Peer review/Constantine Maroulis/archive1 --User:Lehla 14:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review for article on contestant 

message: How come they don't broadcast American Idol in Mexico? It is shown as far in the Philippines, Japan, UK, Canada and Australia. Would it be nice if the Mexican viewers see American Idol?
:Would it be? I don't know, I don't live in Mexico. Why don't they? I don't know, I don't work at Fox. Should we be discussing this here? I know this, we shouldn't be. Hermione1980 22:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Idol viewers in Mexico 

message: On all the season 4 pages st the bottom I added a navigation for easy access. People could come on here and want to read about the season 4 top 12 contestants and instead of pressing the back button on their browser they can click the next person's name. 
It's just for the 11 runner-ups. The people who made it far enough to survive the semi-finals but not far enough to win the title. --User:Lehla 13:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navigation? 

message: "The show is a karaoke competition in which viewers can call in and vote on contestants to determine the best "undiscovered" young singer in the United States". 
American Idol is not a karaoke competition, since they use real musicians, particularly in the semifinals and finals, not some music machine with lyrics playing in the background. And second, the singers who do make it there are TOO good for karaoke. (Crazychap)
:No-one's too good for kareoke! Rich   Farmbrough 22:05, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karaoke? 

message: "Each contestant gets a contract with one of Bertelsmann's many music labels because Bertelsmann owns half of Sony BMG" Is this correct?  The contract bit, I mean... Rich   Farmbrough 22:06, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eh? 

message: Thought you'd want to know that this guy-- only idol--is claiming this work as his own, and even posting a copyright notice! -Jmh123 15:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't go to the link, but if he is indeed ripping it off and posting a copyright notice and not giving Wikipedia credit, a polite email may be in order. Hermione1980 21:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: onlyidol website rip-off

message: Since this page is getting long, should the seasons be split off into separate articles? CrazyC83 04:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sigh:: I think this has been brought up at least three other times. Can we get on with splitting it, already? I know, , but I don't have time ATM. Hermione1980 21:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting the seasons 

message: no william hung? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.8.144 (talk • contribs) .
: He has his own article: William Hung -- MisterHand 23:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  William Hung 

message: I've made an observation on the talk page and would appreciate wider input. Thanks, Hermione1980 23:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of songs performed on American Idol]] 

message: I replaced the "controversy" section. If someone wants to rename or edit it, I won't complain. But I think that at the very least this article should include at least some reference to the criticism that American Idol has received. I don't think these pages are intended primarily as a place for fan gushing. -- Andrew Parodi 17:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Controversy" section

message: Should it be initiated? I think it should, to better organize and create more information here, including many new articles and features. CrazyC83 06:19, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. PMLF 23:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject American Idol (or WikiProject Idol series) 

message: Isn't it a little mean to have a picture of Tessie Mae Reid on this article? dposse 01:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't this a little mean? 

message: Why is it that everytime someones ads a few links to this page in particular they are deleted? Is there someone from the official site or that listed forum here that deleted other links? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.84.73.80 (talk • contribs).
:We have a set of guidelines on external links. Have a look at those for a better understanding. Based on those guidelines, in an article like this one, the preferred links are to the official site and "a link to one major fansite". There may be scope for other links but they would need to fit within the guidelines. -- Barrylb 00:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a problem with the guidelines, please feel free to bring it up on that particular discussion page. However, I would like to remidn you that Spam advises you to "review your intentions. Wikipedia is not a space for the promotion of products, Web sites, fandoms, ideologies, or other memes." The whole of sites such as http://american.idolblog.com/ (which is currently being added to many pages and needs to be removed..) is original research and unchecked claims made by individuals with no interest in NPOV. Therefore, it is completely unencyclopedic to include such referances on a commercial site (see ad content). If any editor disagrees that this site is being spammed and is inappropriate for American Idol entries, then I encourage you to take that discussion up. Keep an eye out for these edits from User:202.154.146.202. - WesleyPinkham 23:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I will be looking at the Desperate Housewives page with a view to cleaning it up. Clearly the editors on that page are not doing their job. -- Barrylb 21:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Enjoy the freedom that is Wikipedia. If you notice these kinds of links, remove them with a reference back to Wiki:spam. WesleyPinkham 21:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impossible to add links? 

message: Is a seventy-seven word opening sentence appropriate for an encyclopedia article?  soverman 20:57 10 March 2006 (UTC)
* I've trimmed down the opening sentence, although the rest of the intro still needs work. -- MisterHand 21:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Encyclopedia writing style

message: Somebody just added this commentary to the article. Can somebody confirm whether or not this show is actually shown on ITV (American Idol as opposed to Pop Idol). -- MisterHand 18:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: American Idol is shown on ITV2 at 7:00pm on Sunday then shown sometimes on ITV1. Or see here ITV2 Programmes  London UK 19:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:ITV television programmes 

message: For last week's theme, music from the 1950's, I can't help but wonder if it'd be more fitting to link to 1950s in music, rathern than 1950s. Can we reach a quick consensus on this? WesleyPinkham 21:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decade themes: decade or decade in music? 

message: I have a question about time zones, I don't understand why they have the show in Hollywood but they don't use the Western Time Zone. Is there so much East coast bias that the show can only be live on the East Coast when it is filmed on the West Coast? Why don't they just show the show at 6:00 on the west coast, and 9:00 on the east coast and have it really be live everywhere insead of tape-delayed where it is filmed?
:Barely anyone is home to watch anything at 6:00pm. And if the show aired live at 9:00pm west coast time, east coast viewers would have to wait until midnight. Idol isn't the only show that does that, Academy Awards and most other shows do it too. It's a fact of life, want to watch it live ... move. lol. HeyNow10029 20:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Zone Questions