Talk:Jamie Hyneman/Archive 1

message: How many of the careers attributed to Jamie on MythBusters are 'tall tales'? Captainmax 06:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Careers 

message: Anyone with a picture of Jamie's (or rather, M5's) Robot Wars robot Blendo?  It's significant enough to warrant inclusion in this article.
:There's one here: http://www.m5industries.com/images/battlebot-048.jpg 208.58.199.42 23:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blendo 

message: The current picture, while a cool moment on MythBusters... is a bad image for this article... you can't even see his face... he is facing the complete opposite direction. Maybe keep this one but lower in the page and have a better, front-on view at the top. Gohst 12:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There appears to be a decent picture at the M5 industries site in the staff section. Captainstoat 04:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a decent picture there that you would wish to use on WP, you'll need to refer to the process for requesting copyright permission. Once you have gone through the process and it's OK'd to place up, you will need to then drop the editprotected template onto this talk page to make the change. Thewinchester (talk) 05:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes please! If you're prepared to freely license the image, then go knock yourself out. If you're wanting attribution, upload it to Wikimedia Commons under the relevant Creative Commons license. If you need any help with this, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Thewinchester (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: I think it was a simple (non-origional) defacement, but yesterday the page said he was gay.  I was wondering if he actually is gay, and it might have been removed because someone *thought* it was a defacement.  Adam talks about his wife and kids on the show, and Jamie never talks about his personal life. Will 23:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: nevermind, looking at the user that added the gay comment, his history shows that he also changed "hyneman" to "hymen" in the article.  *sigh*.  Will 23:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't recall where, but I have seen at least one interview where he specifically said he is not gay and has been married for a while to the same woman. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.109.214.15 (talk) 03:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: It has come to my attention according to the birth year listed, 1956, and the current year, 2007, Jamie's age would actually be 51, not 50 as listed. DeniabilityPlausible 19:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He will continue to be 50 yrs old until 25 September 2007, when he turns 51. The template  computes this, not an editor, so it will update when his birthday arrives. --WillMak050389 20:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthdate

message: Is his legal name James Earl Hyneman?  Adam has called him James once before.  In one episode (I don't remember which) he says "Danger is my middle name", to which Kari replies "I thought it was Earl."  I put it on the article and it was deleted, so I'm not sure I'm correct. Winndm31 17:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal Name 

message: During the 2006 Christmas themed Special of Mythbusters, he has said that Christmas "was not his thing" and that he would be working on Dec. 25th. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.92.117.34 (talk) 03:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also does not celebrate Christmas. 

message: Huh? They make fun of his stoic analytical demeanor. I've never heard anyone suggest he has a deep voice. It's frankly quite nasal. Am I being overly pedantic? :-) --Skidoo (talk) 06:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a free world, change it.  I would describe his voice as monotone personally. 72.139.164.148 (talk) 19:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Adam does a (for him) deep voice when impersonating J, to get the droning effect. That's where the idea comes from.137.205.100.252 (talk) 07:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Deep Voice?" 

message: Jamie isn't a visual effects expert, is he? Special effects yes, but not visual effects which are done in post production.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.196.192 (talk) 20:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this post, but we might be considered splitting hairs, plus his web site is called "M5 Industries Visual Effects" so the detail might not even be relevant to Jamie himself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.194.176.157 (talk) 18:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visual Effects? 

message: Is the photo currently used in the article a good representation of who and what Hyneman is? It shows him sitting down, in front of a microphone, but he is not a talker (neither is Adam Savage, or the junior mythbusters), he is a doing. It would be much more fair towards him to bring a photo where he is shown in the workshop (and standing up), while he is doing something.--Peter Knutsen (talk) 13:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agreeDaveDodgy (talk) 13:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thirded. Also a generally unflattering shot 173.29.133.74 (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The first two posts are from 2008. The current image is from 2010.--Drat (Talk) 07:09, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Good photo?

message: The article states "Hyneman identifies strongly with skeptics and atheists.[1]". The sources I checked provided no evidence to prove this statement. I also see no reason to mention this, whether true or not. Adam Savage's page had similar editing on it. As an avid and dedicated viewer of the show, I can say with some certainty that neither Adam nor Jamie are strong atheists. If anything, they seem impartial. It looks like the writer added irrelevant information to the article to promote their own views. As no evidence seems to back that statement up, and because of it's needlessness, I suggest it be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.140.20 (talk) 05:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * Did you listen to the entire source linked there before determining whether it was adequate?  Generally it's not a good thing removing sourced material; if anything, just add a  tag to request more/better sourcing.  You could also try googling this. DP76764 17:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * Indeed, Jamie makes his position very clear in the source provided pre-edit.  This is Wikipedia at its worst - a mans own words being removed from his own article because some random person can say otherwise "with some certainty."  And really, why wouldn't some random guy know Jamie's position better than Jamie, right?  Go, Wikipedia! 69.81.118.243 (talk) 07:27, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: * As the "some random person" who started this discussion, I still think my main point is not being addressed: the writer of said statement is biased. Plus, I have 3 big problems with the sole source for the statement.1: It's an audio source. I couldn't even check it because it didn't work on my computer. 2: It's only ONE source for a very big statement. If I wrote "Jaime identifies strongly with scientologists" wouldn't it be proper to have several sources? 3: The source is biased. It is from "Skeptic Magazine"'s website, which is definitely pro-atheist. You can't count on a biased source to give reliable, impartial information about something it feels so strongly about. 
Source Material is wonky, he said he is identified strongly with atheist and skeptics, that could mean anything, i mean if he was really as big of a skeptic that he is, he would go out and say it, while i agree the source is good, he could be anything, from deistic to non-demo, because plenty of people associate themselves with skeptics  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.117.130.115 (talk) 20:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Quite so. Disappointed with wikipedia yet, Edmond?137.205.183.109 (talk) 13:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Of course it does matter, especially with him. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not relevant. --93.221.197.190 (talk) 20:16, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased writer? 

message: I was just watching Youtube Live, and heard Adam refer to him as "Jamie Franklin Hyneman". Can anyone confirm or deny this? Lazylaces (Talk to me 01:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: During the YouTube Live show, Adam calls him "James Franklin Hyneman"... any idea what's up with that? bahamut0013♠♣  01:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hah! That was close timing! You beat me by a second. bahamut0013♠♣  01:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

text: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1367178/bio confirms his middle name is Earl. Bananenpuree (talk) 06:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name? 

message: Would it be useful to mention all cameos or only movie cameos? webcomic cameo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.93.172.114 (talk) 10:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mainly trivia, and just because some person made a character depicting him in some webcomic doesn't make it a cameo.--Drat (Talk) 10:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cameos 

message: According to Season 1, Episode 14 he was in the special forces, and he owned a dive shop in the carribean, in addition to the other things he's done.  Worth adding?  Verified?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.104.217.120 (talk) 06:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of the time they're just joking. He was never in the special forces. In Chinese Invasion Alarm, Adam jokes that Jamie worked as a miner in the 1920s. IIRC, the diving and salvaging stuff is true, though.--Drat (Talk) 13:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past Careers 

message: "He has been married to a female science teacher at a local high school"
Is he gay? otherwise why would we point out that his wife is female? should we mention that he breathes air and stands upright as well?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.226.236.21 (talk) 02:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You could always introduce her name into the sentence, between commas, if you are worried.137.205.100.252 (talk) 08:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

text: It's relevant because some executives at the network that picked up their show wondered if a show about two homosexuals near San Francisco, would fly. Wikipedia could just routinely, in the parts of the articles that deal with the things that do NOT make the person encyclopedic, begin the sentence with "A (hetero/homo)sexual, xyz has been married to three (wo)men, firstly to...". But that is perhaps imprecise. People, especially people marrying in the first 3/4 of the 20th century, could have a reason for getting married to a person of the gender opposite to their sexual desires. What I'm trying to say is that people might come to Wikipedia to find out if Hyneman is straight or gay, and their interest is encyclopedic if they are wondering if he and Adam Savage were romantically involved when they commended their show. That question is legit fodder for Wikipedia. We don't absolutely know for sure, of course, but the fact that the person Hyneman has been married to for a long time is female is a fact that people coming here to find out his relationship with Savage might find to be of considerable weight if not absolutely decisive. Therefore the gender of his spouse and the date of their marriage (which entails the LENGTH of their marriage) should be included. IDEALLY, sexual orientation would be meaningless except to the people involved. REALISTICALLY, sexual orientation can bear heavily on an encyclopedia's attempts to explain the trajectory of a person's life. It does have an influence beyond the choice of sexual partners. In Hollywood, it was a "problem" to be managed if it wasn't the "correct" orientation. In politics, sexual orientation has influenced elections. In sports and music, it has at times constrained careers. And, also in politics, both heterosexuality and homosexuality have had particular ways, varying by person, of propelling various political figures into adopting extreme right-wing AND extreme left-wing beliefs. When a person was born to U.S. military parents stationed in Italy and moved to the U.S.A. before their first birthday, Wikipedia will say in the first sentence "XYZ is an Italian-born American blah blah". If THAT fact, which has less influence over that person's life than anything, is encyclopedic, then their sexual orientation is too, even if their encyclopedic status doesn't arise from their sexual orientation.2604:2000:1383:8B0B:103:D4DB:AD9A:6C92 (talk) 13:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Married to a "female" science teacher 

message: I just noticed an odd addition made to the article recently that claims that Hyneman worked on creating the "Wavecam" (the camera system that "floats" over the football field during a game).  I checked the website, and did not see a mention of his name anywhere.  Should that edit be undone, or is this true? WeatherGod (talk) 02:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wavecam Reference 

message: The wikipedia user "Edmonddoc" is constantly removing the fact that Jamie Hyneman is atheist saying "Frankly, I am trying to prevent financial and social damage to Mr. Hyneman". Anyone can read that in the edit-history of this article.
Like Jamie say: "Actually I'm pretty adamant about, you know, the whole God thing and it seems that skeptics are by and large atheists or something approaching that, which I strongly identify with. So it turned out to be a good thing and I have become enthusiastically part of it." He says that on December 12, 2006, in an interview on Skepticality, the official podcast of Skeptic. The recording of this interview is in here: http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepticality/042_skepticality.mp3 (he say that in the minute 29).
This issue is a well known part of Jamie. He strongly identifies with it and is enthusiastic about it, so is no matter of anyone else to say if this fact most be hidden.
Is shameful that "Edmonddoc" think he knows better than Jamie Hyneman about itself.
If admitting been atheist can cause a financial and social damage to Jamie is something that Jamie already confront. Listen the interview!
So the big question is: We (the editors of this wikipedia article) need to save Jamie's "reputation" by hiding the fact that he already admits publicly that he strongly identifies with been atheist and he is enthusiastic about it, been part of the skeptical movement giving that interview?http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepticality/042_skepticality.mp3
My answer (by InterlinkKnight): No, we are not the judges of the morality of others. If our job in wikipedia is to hide an information that someone may find harmful to that person's reputation without caring if that fact is openly admitted by the subject person of the article, then we need to delete many thing about Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Osama bin Laden, George W Bush, Kobe Bryant, O J Simpson, etc. in their wikipedia articles, because many of the scandals that they are part of it may be harmful to that person's reputation. Ha ha… that seems more like a joke.--InterlinkKnight (talk) 13:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Putting aside any contention about reputation or financial damage here, I'd say that the simple fact that Hyneman himslef has said it should remove any fears about consequences. I don't suppose that constitutes a BLP issue at all, and I'd say that it's actually relevant given his role as a prominent skeptic. It would be nice if there was an additional reliable source, something that wasn't first party, just to strengthen the article. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 06:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we can get a better source than this one. I mean, everyone here agree that the guys of Skepticality didn't fake or manipulate the interview so is a reliable source. Although an additional source is always welcome.--InterlinkKnight (talk) 01:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is appropriate to hide on this article that Jamie Hyneman is atheist? 

message: http://www.philly.com/philly/neighbors/main_line/133784798.html
Villanova researchers seek ways to beef up military armor
Notable enough to include? Hcobb (talk) 18:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyneman vs the Taliban 

message: The not-particularly-authoratative site lists Jamie and Mythbusters as the source for the popularity of the phrase "Well, there's your problem". Can anyone find a better source, or is KYM sufficient to add this to the page? Andrew Oakley (talk) 17:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catchphrase - "Well, there's your problem" 

message: Looking at all the controversy, I knew I had evidence, so I went back and dug up a 2011 interview with Adam Savage in which he explicitly states, "Both Jamie and I are atheists." 
He also mentions that Jamie said, in the car on the way to accept their Harvard Humanist award, "I don't really know how to approach this [referring to the speech they were to give]. Should we tell them... I mean, should I tell them that I think religion is stupid?"
Sounds conclusive to me.  24.222.244.70 (talk) 15:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope.137.205.183.109 (talk) 13:54, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atheism 

message: So... he met this science teacher? Did they get married? TehAnonymous (talk) 03:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal life

message: I happend to hit submit a little faster than I should have and it should read
The Jato Rocket Car myth has now be concluded with both the First revisit and with the second Revisit Titled Jato Rocket Car: Mission Accomplished and was the first episode of the current season.
Pokesomi2013 (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Info and Ref to The Jato Rocket Car but Change listing in history is incomplete. 

message: Well, this is pretty inaccurate. At most, it should be marked as "none" since you can't state that atheism as a religion. Note that "Adam Savage" is marked as "none (atheist)". Atheism is mostly the opposite of a religion. It is a disbelief in Theist beliefs, which are strongly in accordance with the definition of religion prerequisite. Please, can someone correct that?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xnerdz (talk • contribs) 04:25, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion atheist 

message: I'd like to clarify my point on the religion clause. Originally it said "Religion: Atheist" and I changed it to "Religion: None (Atheist)". Someone here suggested that if his religion is "none", then we should remove the reference altogether. 
I disagree. The thing is, according to this very article, Jamie's atheism is something that he strongly identifies with. And atheism is relevant to "religion" because it's a position on religious matters. 
However, writing that his religion equals atheism or atheist is simply wrong because Atheism is not a proper religion name. There is no such religion as "atheism" or "atheist".  -- Northern (talk) 15:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion: Atheist vs. None (Atheist)

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message: Tested dot com was alway credited in the past as "Jamie and Adam". Then the tested.com website dropped the Jamie around the time Mythbusters ended. So I edited this article. Now (Jan 2016) tested.com is back to showing "Jamie and Adam". So I've edited it back again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdeacon (talk • contribs) 14:17, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a bit murky, isn't it. He seems to be a silent partner, but not keen on taking part in AV presentations.137.205.100.252 (talk) 08:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: Marksmanship? Hardly on par. Anyone could shoot a fixed target at very close range with a rifle, sighted in or not. I’d say that myth is debunked.  72.42.184.72 (talk) 04:17, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Marksmanship?