Talk:John McPhee

message: I just deleted the word "genre" from the phrase "one of the pioneers of the literary non-fiction genre", because it seemed unneeded.  But then I got to looking at "literary"-- I have a feeling that it really means "good" in this sentence.  Is there a recognised genre called "literary non-fiction"?   Never mind, I should have looked further first. Maybe the word "genre" should be restored?  Still seems unnecessary to me.  Mwanner 18:02, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre.

message: The "Background" section says "McPhee was born in Princeton, New Jersey, the son of the Princeton University team physician, Dr. Harry McPhee."  Does anybody know which "team?"  The football team, the rowing team, the debating team? Paulburnett (talk) 13:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a generic reference to athletic teams.  See here and here Tedickey (talk) 13:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to his piece `Progression': `[His] father was a medical doctor who dealt with the injuries of Princeton University athletes. He also travelled as the chief physician of several United States Olympics teams.' So, yeah, athletes in general. Hotel-c (talk) 04:34, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Princeton University team  

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message: A staff writer is not necessarily the same as a contributor. The suggested link does not indicate that McPhee is a paid employee of the New Yorker magazine (nor in fact an employee of anything except Princeton).  here is a related link discussing the difference TEDickey (talk) 23:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: sure - I'm looking for what the New Yorker might describe its relationship, rather than a third party.  They are the ones that define the relationship. TEDickey (talk) 00:29, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Not really odd when you consider the way people cut/paste from odd places, add a few words make it their own "research".  The New Yorker cite is usable TEDickey (talk) 00:40, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: So, if I follow you, Paris Review and New York Times are not reliable sources because you believe they cut and paste? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:41, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Likewise the Washington Post  ? 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

text: The guideline's been there quite a while WP:CATVER.  Before commenting, do some reading TEDickey (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The picnic-table crisis came along toward the end of my second year as a New Yorker staff writer (a euphemistic term that means unsalaried freelance close to the magazine).
glv (talk) 01:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Yorker staff writer 

message: I just updated a mention of McPhee's "twenty-nine books" to read "thirty-one books". (That sentence hadn't been updated in years, and he has continued to publish in that time.) But if you count the rows in the table, there are actually 41, not 31. I want to explain my thinking; consensus may move in a different direction.
Nine of McPhee's books (Wimbledon, The John McPhee Reader, Alaska: Images of the Country, the limited 1983 edition of half of Annals of the Former World, Heirs of General Practice, In the Highlands and Islands, Outcroppings, The Second John McPhee Reader, and The American Shad) consist of material already published in other books, in a few cases accompanied by a photographer's photos. Another (The Princeton Reader) is a collection he co-edited, containing essays by other writers. My count of 31 includes only the books with original McPhee material. (Annals of the Former World contains a long piece not published elsewhere: "Crossing the Craton".)
This way of counting mostly follows the way McPhee's output is listed in the frontmatter of his own books. I say "mostly" because until recently, the two "John McPhee Reader" collections were usually listed, and sometimes Heirs of General Practice is still listed as a separate book.
But in my opinion, the rule I've adopted is the most consistent and reasonable, and will be easy to keep up to date. It is similar to the way, on pages about bands, original studio albums are usually listed separately from compilations and various repackagings. glv (talk) 00:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counting McPhee's books