Talk:Houghton Hall, East Riding of Yorkshire

message: Even though this is not a deep insight into Houghton Hall it gives some knowlage.
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
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:Houghton Hall, East Riding of Yorkshire →  – Page was moved before discussion reached a conclusion. An editor has twice deleted the discussion, asking that it be brought here instead. 94.196.93.1 (talk) 22:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 18:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

text: Houghton Hall, Yorkshire →  – Per WP:UKPLACE, current county. Crouch, Swale (talk)  12:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

text: Support. Also Google maps lists it as Houghton Hall, Houghton, Sancton, York, UK. Sancton says it is "The civil parish .. formed by the village of Sancton and the hamlet of Houghton" while Houghton Hall says about itself "Located on the estate is the village of Sancton and the vestigial remains of the ancient hamlet of Houghton" although Sancton doesn't mention this. A bit confusing... Facts707 (talk) 04:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That says nothing about being in Yorkshire alone but just the address. Crouch, Swale (talk)  10:28, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

text: Oppose, should be using the current county that the entity is in otherwise all buildings in the East Riding of Yorkshire, North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire would all have Yorkshire as a disambiguator. Which would lead to the question what about those that used to be in Derbyshire would they get that as a disambiguator? Keith D (talk) 14:15, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they should indeed all have Yorkshire as a disambiguator unless there is more than one in different parts of Yorkshire. Sometimes common sense should take precedence over pedantry per WP:IAR. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Why just for Yokshire, by that agument all entities would be designated by their pre-1974 county (e.g. use Cumberland or Westmorland rather than Cumbria)? Keith D (talk) 16:17, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not the same case at all, given all four entities have "Yorkshire" in their title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  What would happen with the likes of Dore, South Yorkshire, namely places that were historically in the likes of Derbyshire? Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:25, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Dore, Yorkshire. It's been in Yorkshire since 1934, long before South Yorkshire existed! -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

text: Nearer to London? ;-) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Larger and much more famous! -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure how much size matters but fair enough if it's much more famous! Was just checking we weren't discussing an unproblematic dab over here while there was potentially a more problematic one staring us in the face over there. JimmyGuano (talk) 11:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well you could start a discussion at Talk:Houghton Hall (disambiguation) to move that to the base name but the Norfolk one gets 3,284 views compared with only 327 for the East Riding of Yorkshire one (227 for the "Houghton Hall, East Riding of Yorkshire" title and 100[] for the "Houghton Hall, Yorkshire" redirect. There is also one in Cumbria that may merit and article and gets some views though, see Commons:Category:Houghton Hall which I disambiguated. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 21 January 2022 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus that the proposed title is most WP:CONSISTENT with titling practices for geographical locations in the UK. (non-admin closure)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Houghton Hall, Yorkshire →  – as closer of the previous move request, I have been asked to move this article to the proposed title. That request was a result of consensus achieved in a closed and archived RfC now found at WT:WikiProject UK geography/Archive 25. Moving away from the shorter title still appears to be quite controversial as seen by this recent discussion on an editor's talk page. Hopefully, this move request will support WikiProject UK geography's consensus for the highest and best title of this article. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 21:45, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 27 January 2023