Talk:A Doll's House

message: I am very familiar with the story and I do not know of any explicit evidence that supports this. The evidence given in that paragraph is very vague such as: "Henrik Ibsen was considered a genius playwright of that period and was known for developing many unorthodox ideas at the time" and "The sound of the shutting doors symbolizes Nora leaving her past behind her and ready to embrace the her newfound love of women." There are many problems with this somewhat radical claim. First of all, doing a quick google search on "A doll's house lesbians" directed me only to only the Wikipedia entry with relevant material. Second, stating that Henrik Ibsen is known for his "unorthodox" ideas does nothing to prove that Nora and Christine could have sexual attractions for each other or other women. And the third piece of evidence, is just an expansion of the supposed claim that Nora and Christine are lesbians. Either this last paragraph be deleted, or citations added to these sentences.
I agree. I have never heard of this assertion before and this book was covered fairly extensively in my English class. I am moving the section here.--Tahnok (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nora and Christine: Lesbians?

message: Why does the author of this article repeatedly say "Victorian"?  Ibsen wasn't even English, he's Norwegian! - Mandel 17:11, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
Mandel is right about the use of 'Victorian'.  Technically, its wrong.  But the Norwegian equivalent of Victorian....?
I don't think we need a Norwegian word; Victorian-era norms affected more than England, and Ibsen did not write about a phenomenon only found in Norway. ❝Sverdrup❞ 14:56, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Victorian" or "19th Century"?

message: The plot summary section seems a bit messy, especially with the ending being mentioned near the start.  I'm new to this, so I'm not sure I could clean it up, but if someone did, I would appreciate it. Unsigned user
:I took a crack at it. I worry it's too verbose but I think it's better than before.  Krogstadt 07:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Summary 

message: Could anyone actually prove that Ibsen did indeed based on his friend, Laura, to write out A Doll's House?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.4.10 (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Done.--Old Moonraker (talk) 10:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bases? True or gossip? 

message: *Start class - content appears to be "B" class, but needs significant formatting improvement, per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Theatre/Article_Structure guidlines.  History and Productions should be given their own headings, from content currently integrated with introduction. 
*Low importance - a single play constitutes a "highly specific area of knowledge."
--Dereksmootz (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've re-rated as C-class, as it seems to be lacking quite a lot and isn't very well sourced with inline citations. Also re-rated as high importance - article gets more than 30,000 hits a month here. DionysosProteus (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Theatre Assessment 

message: - Alternative ending -
Moving this to Talk for now.Is this "alternative ending" from Ibsen? Fan site? Somebody's blog?? If you want to restore this to the article, please provide a sentence or two of context. 
NORA ... Where we could make a real marriage out<BR>of our lives together. Goodbye. [Begins to go.]<BR>HELMER. Go then! [Seizes her arm.] But first you shall see<BR>your children for the last time!<BR>NORA. Let me go! I will not see them! I cannot!<BR>HELMER [draws her over to the door, left]. You shall see<BR>them. [Opens the door and says softly.] Look, there they<BR>are asleep, peaceful and carefree. Tomorrow, when they<BR>wake up and call for their mother, they will be -<BR>motherless.<BR>NORA [trembling]. Motherless...!<BR>HELMER. As you once were.<BR>NORA. Motherless! [Struggles with herself, lets her<BR>travelling bag fall, and says.] Oh, this is a sin against<BR>myself, but I cannot leave them. [Half sinks down by the door.]<BR>HELMER [joyfully, but softly]. Nora!<BR>[The curtain falls.] 
from :http://ibsen.net/index.gan?id=472&subid=0
-- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 14:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for comments on this. I think that this should be restored to the main article text, with, as I originally said, a sentence or two of context. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Alternative ending"

message: Added Category:Memory of the World Register Kingvald (talk) 11:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Added category

message: There are so many connections between this play and Hedda Gabler, thematically. It would be nice if this article would cite some scholar commenting on these connections (same goes for the Hedda Gabler page).
128.138.169.23 (talk) 22:15, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hedda Gabler 

message: Wouldn't a mention of Mabou Mines distinctive interpretation be worthwhile?  Here's a link to the NYT's review: http://theater.nytimes.com/mem/theater/treview.html?res=950ce4d7103bf937a15752c1a9659c8b63  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.102.249.7 (talk) 12:07, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for raising the question here. Have a look at WP:NNEWS for some suggestions. It seems to require "enduring historical significance" for inclusion, but there are many factors. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:05, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Mention of Mabou Mines Production? 

message: Society has forced standardized positions for people throughout history but should not expect people to live their entire lives serving the role without question. Throughout much of civilization, women have been placed on a lower tier on humanity’s steps with their main purpose was to serve men. Even as society matured and women were given more respect for the everyday work and accomplishments they made, they were still looked down upon. In the play, “A Doll’s House” by Henrik Ibsen, the main character is a woman who is seemingly stuck in the role that society has made for her and all women. The play shows how humanity is stronger than that inevitable degradation and a person’s passion and determination can change her course in life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.26.68.58 (talk) 19:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roles in Society 

message: I really enjoyed reading “A Doll’s House”.  I have been with my husband for sixteen years now.  I feel like to be able to grasp the full meaning you have to have endured a long relationship similar to this one.  Once I started reading it, I did not want to stop.  I love mysteries and this had a hint of mystery to it.  --Tracynabby (talk) 05:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Doll's House 

message: Henrik Ibsen the author of “A Doll’s House” was “born in a small Norwegian town of Skien to a prominent family, he published this play in 1879 and it was first performed in Denmark,” (D.L. Pike, A.M. Acosta, 2011, p. 555), the play was an enormous hit. This was a time in Norway when women had very little freedom over their lives, “women were ruled by men by their father, husband or (if widowed) son”, and “marriage was arranged for girls at age 15 and their husbands was much older than them.” Later in the 1800’s there was “changes in the rights for women and only rich girls was permitted to attend school learning only needlework and music,” and prohibited from learning any academic subjects, (T. Lambert, 2012). When Ibsen published his play, “A Doll’s House” during a time when the country was going through a transformation of women frightening for equality, Ibsen witnesses this travesty, because he too was born into a family of wealth, and he had very good insight of the affect it had on families, there accomplishments to their surrenders. Frost, R. (2011). Fire and Ice, In D. L. Pike, A. M. Acosta (Eds), Literature: A world of writing stories, poems, plays, and essays [Vital Source digital version] (pg. 457). Boston, Ma: Pearson Learning Solutions. 
Ibsen, H. (2011). A doll’s house, In D.L. Pike and A.M. Acosta (Eds.) Literature: A world of writing stories, poems, plays, and essays [VitalSource digital version] (pp. 555-590). Boston, MA: Pearson Learning Solutions.
T. Lambert, (2012), A Brief History on Women Rights, Retrieved from URL http://www.localhistories.org/womensrights.html
Pbeardjohn (talk) 06:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Truimps and Surrender of a Woman 

message: One definitive moment in the play, The Doll House, is when the reader finds that Nora has lied to her husband about borrowing the money from Krogstad.  This is an important moment because Nora’s husband and his disposition of Krogstad are revealed.  This moment reveals a sense of panic and desperation for Nora.  “Isn’t a daughter allowed to spare her dying father anxiety and concern?  Isn’t a wife allowed to save her husbands life?” (Ibsen, 2011. pg 590)  The reader can anticipate such feeling because of the way Nora speaks.  Nora has such passion and determination while hiding this fraudulent act.  The readers can connect with Nora as far as her wanting to keep peace with her husband.  Any wife would want there husband to be happy.  All readers should be able to connect to the image of a perfect marriage.  
Ibsen, H. (2011). A Doll’s House. In D.L. Pike and A.M. Acosta (Eds.) Literature: A World of Writing Stories, Poems, Plays, and Essays [Vital Source Digital Version] (pg.555-589). Boston, MA: Pearson Learning Solutions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.126.44 (talk) 00:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Doll House  Jessica Moore SUO 

message: I found A Doll’s House quit intriguing. In the beginning I thought it was going to be a simple little story but when I read it really kept me interested. It had everything a reader is looking for in a story. Nora the wife seemed simple but the more you got to know her you saw differently. She did things behind her husband’s back. Take for instance the macaroons he didn’t allow her to have them but she did it anyway. She hid the whole money situation that she borrowed from the bank herself. She has her husband thinking it was from her father. The man from the bank who did the transaction was he going to blow the whole secret over a job position. Was Nora’s nice deed of borrowing the money going to bite her in the butt?  Just to save her husband’s life. I thought it almost did. Was a job position worth blackmailing Nora?
Tracie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75tracie (talk • contribs) 17:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Dolls House/ I found it very interesting 

message: Ingmar Bergman's stage play Nora is a reworking of this play, and has no mention here.--WickerGuy (talk) 21:40, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of Ingmar Bergman's Rewrite "Nora"?? 

message: In the cast list:  "his "tuberculosis of the spine" originates from a venereal disease contracted by his father."   I never heard of  "tuberculosis of the spine", much less of it being related to somebody else's venereal disease.  Is this an obsolete 19th-century notion of how venereal disease works?  Or did I miss something?2001:558:6011:1:B1EC:E5CB:CEB4:18A4 (talk) 19:41, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Rank's Illness 

message: To my questions 105.160.59.33 (talk) 18:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answers to questions 

message: The original language was Danish as Norway was than part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and there was no Norwegian standard language. When the original Danish is read, Nora comes over as a much tougher character and frequently uses language that would be typically from a male. The change in her character as in current translations does not appear. This idea is developed in a Masters Thesis from Lake Forest College, Illinois, and a new English translation. I can share these. Karin Gordon, the author of this thesis, is currently terminally ill from Creutzfeld Jakob disease. 75.30.105.35 (talk) 20:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language of A Doll House