Talk:Richard Pacquette

message: This edit is based on no consensus of which I am aware. Indeed, it's been generally agreed on WT:FOOTY that the opposite is true, and that in general we should avoid branding people as being of particular nationalities just because of the football team they play for. Paquette is evidently not Dominican, so we shouldn't be saying that he is. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would make more sense for the lead to read "English-born Dominican international footballer". Non? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The way we handle this is other articles is usually to provide his birth place in the brackets with his age (so that it's obvious where he's from), leave the international stuff to the third paragraph (which is fine as it is) and avoid using labels like "English" or "Dominican" or whatever unless the person self-identifies as being a certain nationality. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's in the MoS that the POB is not to be placed in the brackets in the lead, so we certainly don't do that. (I'm struggling to find a link for that, but it seems to be accepted practice) Never knew we were meant to duck the issue of nationalities in the lead when it is ambiguous; that's something I've never seen before. However, I've seen many articles that use footballing nationality in the lead under these circumstances, such as Darron Gibson and Patrice Evra, to name two. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm astounded that the Gibson article isn't subject to edit warring over that issue. Evra self-identifies as French. In this case, where the current version is evidently nonsensical (Pacquette is evidently not Dominican) it makes sense simply to strip the offending adjective. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: So as an update here, I still don't see why we have to mention his international caps (all two of them) in the first sentence of the article. Furthermore, that he was only selected in 2008 doesn't mean that he's not still available for selection: as such, there should be an ndash after "2008" to indicate that he's still potentially a Dominica player. Lastly, if an infobox attribute is not available it should be left blank, not filled in with "TBA" or "unknown" or whatever. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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