Talk:Bruce Lee

message: "winning the Hong Kong schools boxing tournament"
this was a smoker (informal) tournament with only a few classmates from his own school and a few students from one other catholic school in st. Mahmudi school gym. he beat Aw elm, a classmate, in the final. the way this achievement is worded in the article it is meant to imply he had been formally trained and won a sanctioned tournament. the wording should be changed to "winning an informal boxing tournament with a bracket consisting of classmates from Os and george schools". this is no disrespect to mr lee. any accomplishment is an accomplishment and deserves praise, but an encyclopedia shouldn't try to inflate things to appear as something they aren't.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1006:B01B:39A5:93D:504:2324:B164 (talk) 00:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: schoolboy tournament

message: "souring" should be "soaring" 69.174.145.125 (talk) 02:31, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: — IVORK Talk 03:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2021 

message: Hi Bruce lee 120.21.161.124 (talk) 11:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reading 

message: 185.167.52.108 (talk) 11:39, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Game of Death 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Bruce Lee's height has been the topic of some conjecture on various forums, like the CelebHeight website, which gathers a plethora of information to determine/estimate height. The 5'8" listing is known to be a generous rounding based on Bruce's own claim. In Tao Of Jeet Kune Do, Bruce lists his own height as 5'7 1/2.  Given the fact that the average person overstates their height by ~1 inch, 5'8 is a bit of a stretch.  Bruce is more commonly listed as 5'7, though I don't have any specific source for this. 2601:882:101:1A0:939:E6BC:73C6:EC09 (talk) 17:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listed as 5'8" but his own book states 5'7 1/2.   

message: Not too long, despite the request for shortening it at the start of the article. 171.76.85.98 (talk) 11:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Section 

message: When a Lee is not a Lee
In November 2022, it was announced that Ang Lee was directing a biopic on Bruce Lee and that his son Mason Lee was cast to star in the movie. Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon Lee, is set to produce the film. Ang and Mason Lee are not related to Bruce Lee.
Should read
In November 2022, it was announced that Ang Lee was directing a biopic on Bruce Lee and that her son Mason Lee was cast to star in the movie. Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon Lee, is set to produce the film. Ang and Mason Lee are not related to Bruce Lee. 176.158.106.30 (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yue🌙 06:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error so obvious it almost pass as right 

message: You need to add that according to Bruce Lee's first student Jesse Glover in his book Between Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do Bruce Lee's first style was Hung Gar Kung fu 66.199.30.14 (talk) 15:37, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bruce's lees first official art was not wing chun 

message: :Would someone look at the 2nd to last and last sentence in the last paragraph of "1959–1964: Continuous studies and martial arts breakthrough" section. It may be just me but it states that Lee auditioned "...for a role in the pilot for "Number One Son" about Lee Chan, the son of Charlie Chan". Charlie Chan was a fictional character so it seems that should be added.  --  Otr500 (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something seems off 

message: :A more pressing concern is that the article does not pass the B-class criteria #1,  and #4. It is placed in the categories:
*Articles with unsourced statements from November 2019
*Articles lacking reliable references from January 2022
*Wikipedia articles needing page number citations from September 2022
*Wikipedia articles needing factual verification from September 2022
*Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2022
*Articles needing additional references from February 2023
:The article should be reassessed to C-class. I would have done this but there should be a sufficient number of article "regulars" to look at this. Otr500 (talk)
===External links===
:There are five entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion. It seems AllMovie, IMDb, and Discogs are pretty much blanket added to many articles regardless if it is warranted or not.  
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*WP:ELCITE (when applicable): 
*WP:ELBURDEN explains the procedure for adding any trimmed links. --  Otr500 (talk) 00:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article issues and classification 

message: :There are five entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion. It seems AllMovie, IMDb, and Discogs are pretty much blanket added to many articles regardless if it is warranted or not.  
*ELpoints #3) states: 
*LINKFARM states: 
*WP:ELMIN: . 
*WP:ELCITE (when applicable): 
*WP:ELBURDEN explains the procedure for adding any trimmed links. --  Otr500 (talk) 00:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: According to this  newspaper articles, Lee used cocaine, LSD and cannabis until his death. 83.52.72.57 (talk) 07:34, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug use before his death 

message: In an episode of the TV series ‘History’s Greatest Mysteries’ about the death of Bruce Lee the investigators, chief among them the coroner Philip Beh, come to the conclusion that Bruce Lee died from the Meprobomate in the Equagesic he was given (rather than the aspirin in it), thus adding support to Raymond Chow’s theory mentioned here and somewhat detracting from the theory that the aspirin did him in. 
The other theory mentioned there is that a blow to the head received during filming was severe enough to give Bruce Lee epilepsy, the evidence being that the medicine used to treat Bruce for his first major collapse around 2 months before his death is chiefly an anti-epilepsy medication. Perhaps the permanent damage done to Bruce’s brain from this blow had the effect of making him more sensitive to Meprobomate, thus also making this blow a factor in his death too? Overlordnat1 (talk) 23:45, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History’s Greatest Mysteries: The Death of Bruce Lee 

message: Hong Kong was subject to the nationality laws of the United Kingdom. While the United Kingdom may have considered Bruce Lee to be a Commonwealth citizen, he was never a full British citizen (per the Paul Bowman source). Sources such as NBC News and Huffington Post describe him as a "Chinese American". The South China Morning Post describes him as a "Hong Kong-American". His Encyclopedia Britannica article introduces him as an "American-born actor". 
I think either "Chinese-American" or "Hong Kong-American" would be best for the lead, as it seems like the United States was the only country he ever had full citizenship of. Helioz9 (talk) 18:02, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can you explain what's wrong with calling him a "Hong Kong American"? Helioz9 (talk) 22:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Did you read my edit summary? I didn't say it was wrong. I merely meant you need to discuss your changes first.  - FlightTime (open channel) 22:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bruce Lee's nationality 

message: Bruce Lee was in IP man 3 but only in some parts 106.69.116.246 (talk) 04:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: bruce lee had been dead for 40 by the time ip man 3 was released. 168.245.214.158 (talk) 21:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bruce Lee IP man 3 

message: His citizenship is listed as Hong Kong but this would have been British Subject as Hong Kong was part of the British Empire at the time of his birth and death. 90.250.156.165 (talk) 16:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Philroc (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2023 

message: In the legacy section there is a mention of Dana White calling Bruce Lee the father of mixed martial arts, but the article incorrectly lists him as the founder of the UFC. Dana White and the Fertittas only entered the UFC picture when Zuffa bought the UFC in the 2000s, the UFC was founded in 1993 by different parties under the auspices of SEG. White should be referred to by his title within the UFC, not "founder".  DarioGuerraKauaiUtah (talk) 23:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dana White mention in Legacy section 

message: There are the words 'but used illegal cufflings under his sleeves' - what are 'cufflings'?  Should that be 'cufflinks'? SandJ-on-WP (talk) 12:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  'cufflings'? 

message: So I’ve gotten into another edit dispute with @Nikkimaria over the inclusion of the cause of death module in the infobox. I’ve resorted to the talk page per Nikkimaria's request so we can resolve this and hopefully reach a consensus with the inputs from other editors. For starters, Bruce Lee's premature death at the age of 32 is shown to be significant to his overall notability and legacy up to current day. [1][2] It is widely accepted that Bruce Lee died from cerebral edema (brain swelling) despite the array of spurring secondary details. This is an open discussion and I encourage the participation of anyone who sees this. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 18:29, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi SomeBodyAnyBody, neither of those sources seem to support that the cause of his early death is significant to his notability. Additionally neither gives edema as the cause of death - one says it was an allergic reaction and the other simply "after being given medication for a headache". In cases like this where the details are not clear and straightforward, it is most helpful to defer the explanation to the article text. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes these sources do not specifically list his cause of death as individually significant on his own and don't list "cerebral edema", they do show that his cause behind his early death at the peak of his fame is in particular mass frequent interest and scrutiny by countless. You neglected to acknowledge the compelling second source I included after your second revert, where Encyclopædia Britannica confirms his official cause of death in a question designated sub article. [3] I was also able to easily find several more sources from reliable outlets such as the National Institutes of Health, Los Angeles Times, South China Morning Post, The Guardian, Snopes and The Economic Times that confirm that the official cause of Bruce Lee's death after his autopsy was ultimately concluded as "cerebral oedema."[4][5][6][7][8] putting his cause of death as "cerebral edema" or any other synonymous term in the infobox seems to be a non-controversial decision since the secondary theories in the circumstances of his such as an allergic reaction, excessive water consumption, or epilepsy all concur that it ultimately led to fatal swelling of the brain. I think that it is best that we wait for other editors to join in on the discussion so we can come to a group consensus on if it should be listed or not. If they come to an agreement that it shouldn't be listed, I will accept it. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death inclusion 

message: There is a random source at the very top of the page that clearly shouldn't be there, In place of the actual text. Can someone sort it out 219.89.38.16 (talk) 10:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead is messed up 

message: Lee promoted Cantonese pride and Cantonese Culture, and was also patriotic to the United States, his actual birthplace. The lead instead implies he supported Communism by delibrately being so vague. This is a disgusting attempt of CCP editors to ruin this article I suspect. If it is not discussed and changed ASAP, I will make the edit in a week or so. Colliric (talk) 03:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lead says "Chinese Nationalism", but Lee hated Communism! 

message: "Lee had a dislike for dairy products and as a result, used powdered milk in his diet.[132]"
He disliked dairy products, but powdered milk is a dairy product?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4260:35D0:8C:B4BB:DF55:378B (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Sentence Seems To Be Contradictory