Talk:Allen Tate

message: Can it be true that Tate worked for National Review?  It wasn't founded until the 50s, and the article seems to imply he worked there in the 20s.
:*Text now rearranged for better clarity; and [citation needed] message posted for this. Milkunderwood (talk) 08:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: The article presently says
*"the group were known as the Fugitive Poets and later as the Southern Agrarians."
This is incorrect, or at best misleading. The two groups overlapped both in time and in membership, but were distinct, and they had distinct interests, with the Fugitives (poets) being more interested in poetry criticism, the Southern Agrarians in the values of the old South. See http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/vuhistory/fugitives_agrarians.php for members and brief biographies, and their respective affiliations. 
Milkunderwood (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Better now - thanks for help in phrasing. I've made another clarifying change. Milkunderwood (talk) 21:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed word 'literary' back to 'political'. Agrarians did not focus on literature. Even though many of the "Twelve Southerners" were literary figures, if you look at I'll Take My Stand, the essays are all about the writers' political philosophy. They write about industrialization vs. agrarian economic models and how they had affected The South. They also write about culture in the South, but they write about it through an openly political lens. This is the primary distinction between the two groups: one was primarily focused on nurturing literature in the South, and the other was focused primarily on conservative politics and economic models in the South. Jpcohen (talk) 13:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fugitives and Agrarians - 2 different groups 

message: No Wikipedia entry for Gardner.  There's a biography just come out and people will want to know who she is and what she wrote.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.10.198.117 (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note this is not the same person as Isabella Stewart Gardner, 1840-1924. Milkunderwood (talk) 07:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isabella Gardner 1915-1981 

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message: Allen Tate was a notorious womanizer. Whoever he was married to, or living with at whatever time, there was always, eventually, another woman somewhere on the side. Some of these fugitive relationships had cultural significance. We would not have Mildred Haun's beautiful stories of Tennessee mountain life collected in "The Hawk's Done Gone" if Tate had not been getting it on with her, and getting her stories collected and published by Vanderbilt University Press. It wouldn't hurt to have a small section on his several dalliances. Pascalulu88 (talk) 01:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Womanizing"?