Talk:Anime/Archive 1

message: Are people really unable to see the comment in the source basically yelling at them not to change what they're about to change anyway?   - Korpios 18:11, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABe Yoshitoshi 

message: Just curious...  such an old series as Doraemon should deserve some kind of mention in this article. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:20, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doraemon 

message: I'm not an anime fan and I really can't speak to this authoritatively, but it seems to me (from the perspective of someone coming to this article looking for information), that there "External links" section is too long to be much use.
I accidentally stumbled onto this link:
*Anime-Info.net
Now, as I happen to read French, I found it quite useful, but most English-speakers wouldn't, so I removed it (Manual of Style).
If that was serving some purpose that I missed and it really needs to be there, by all means, add it back. But I looked through the other links and I really can't tell what they all, collectively, accomplish, that couldn't be accomplished by a shorter selection. As it was, I was hard-pressed to find what I was looking for (in this case, images) admidst the deluge. It looks like somebody with a bit more knowledge needs to do a bit of pruning, perhaps? --Aranel ("Sarah") 00:01, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The following lists are getting to be rather excessive:
*Several well-known Japanese animation studios
*List of non-Japanese anime distributors
*The list of "some of" the important conventions
*Notable names in anime
My concern is that the lists are starting to get in the way of the communication of the information in this article. Comprehensive lists in all four cases might be useful, but they should be in separate articles (especially the first two, which I am about ready to move to their own articles as they stand). Can I get some input from someone who actually knows which items on these lists are of sufficient significance? (The lists in this article do not claim to be comprehensive. They are supposed to be short and by definition should leave out many items that are of major secondary importance.) Aranel ("Sarah") 03:21, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists that are too long 

message: Personally I think there should be a seprate entry for manga artist who had influence on anime so that artists such as Go Nagai, Rumiko Takahashi and Masamune Shirow (who people seem to constantly confuse with Mamoru Oshii) should be moved to a seprate category to reduce the common confusion that these artists have amongst anime fandom.
The artists that should be under anime that were also manga artists are Leiji Matsumoto for his large contributions to anime such as Starblazers etc., Osamu Tezuka, Katsuhiro Otomo, and Hayao Miyazaki.  All others did little to no anime work with Shirow only co-directing one OVA series
I deleted a comment that was basically unobjective shirow worshiping that didn't get any facts straight siting him as the creator of the Ghost in the Shell film, a film that he had very little to do with, and is much more a product of Mamoru Oshii's philsophies on storytelling than Shirows.
I was just curious what people thought of this idea??
Neilworms 11:53 pm July 27, 2004
Just link it to "Notable names" in the Manga article. --AllyUnion 13:29, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manga Artists under notable Names in Anime?? 

message: Currently: Anime is influenced by the drawing style of manga, or Japanese comics.
I don't know, I don't like the wording of this particularly.  I always thought, and was under the impression both anime and manga art styles influence each other, and also depends on the style of the artist as well.  It is not always the case, I think, that mangaka are Japanese animators animating for an anime.  In some cases, the character design is reflected upon the art style of the original mangaka... isn't it?  Well, thing I have a problem with is that some anime is produce before the manga, and some manga is produced before the anime.  Whatever the character design and art style is selected for whichever is produced first, it seems that becomes the basis for what influences the production of the next anime or manga series, or anime based on the manga, or manga based on the anime. -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:46, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manga sentence 

message: implying that most criticizes low framerates and lack of "animation" is the critic's fault for not recognizing different animation styles is pov and apologetic.
Regarding the quality of animation to budget, see this link:. There was also a more detailed article in AWN magazine that's about anime budgets, but the article is locked now and open to subscription only. Usually anime budget is a lot lower than american animation. Even some inconspicuous western series such as Sherlock Holmes in 22nd Century costs approximately a couple million US dollars per episode to produce, a lot higher than Japan production costs. But Sony specifically said they spent much more money to revive Astro Boy, and the animaton shows. Remember Miyazaki said in an interview that he quit TV animation in the early 80s because he couldn't muster enough budget to produce the quality animation he wanted. Hope this clarifies stuff up. Wareware 22:09, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Other comments

message: I edited and then removed this:
"  Several video games, a manga series, McDonalds toys, soundtracks, five theatrical release movies, a couple of direct-to-video releases, and a trading card game (with some cards valued enough to be sold at $100 each) are only the most prominent of the money-making goods.  With more than 300 "monsters" on the show, and the show’s slogan "Gotta catch em all" plastered on every package, there's no end to the market for action figures and character collectibles. There is even a store in New York City run by the owners of the Pokemon trademark dedicated to selling Pokemon-based goods."
If anything, it belongs in the Pokémon article. This article is already a bit detail-heavy.  Aranel ("Sarah") 00:39, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokémon info 

message: On :Category:Anime, anime series are intermingled with anime terms, like chibi and shoujo.  I think that one or the other (or both) should be split of into a sub-category of anime. The easiest route would be to re-categorize non-series articles as :Category:Anime Terms, since there are far fewer of these than anime series. -- Khym Chanur 01:56, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)
:It would need to be :Category:Anime terms, of course, but is that the best catch-all for such articles? Don't many of them apply equally to manga? Aranel ("Sarah") 22:37, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-category for anime series or terms 

message: *How did yourevert the page back so quickly? Is there a revert button? I've been here almost a year, and I've never found it. -Litefantastic 15:34, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Administrators actually do have what basically amounts to a "revert button". For everyone else, the simplest way to do it is to pull up the last good version from the history page (like this, for example: ), edit that page (the old one), and save it, which has the effect of saving over the vandalism. See Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version. -Aranel ("Sarah") 15:49, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalizm