Talk:Punahou School

message: It's not called "athletics" in America
128.12.186.192 11:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track and Field 

message: Michelle Wie has never won a PGA golf tournament.
Punahou is not Royal School.  
The article only mentions that the land was gifted to the school, it does not imply that the school is or was otherwise connected to the Hawai'ian Royal Famly.
There was a redirect from the Royal School entry to Punahou before I revised the Royal School entry.  The error of the person who created the Royal School entry in the first place.  I wanted to make sure that anyone coming back since the revision would know the difference.--Gmosaki 06:47, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  General POV Questions 

message: Steve Case was recently added under faculty and staff section. I'm not sure if he qualifies for this section... how often are the trustees actually on campus? Perhaps an administration section should be created.
My responds to this:
Steve Case attended Punahou School, understands the this school's goals in their priority to the students, and being such a generous donor, he should be entitled to have saying in the direction of this school.  Apparently, he had made such an accomplishment in his own life, being a great role model with a straight forward reputation and also in giving back to the local community.
Punahou Alumni
:Doesn't exactly answer the question. Should we group trustees with "faculty and staff," or not?204.107.82.254 (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Steve Case

message: I believe the Lahainaluna High School (also founded my missionaries) pre-dates Punahou as the oldest school west of the Mississippi.
Punahou Alumni now on Maui
True. However Lahainaluna High School was founded as seminary school, not a college prep school. Punahou is the oldest college prep school west of the Mississippi. I've never heard Punahou called just the oldest high school west of the  Mississippi.
O4' Grad
It doesn't matter. St. Louis University High School pre-dates them both by decades, and has always been a college prep school. It was founded in 1818 as St. Louis Academy, later grew to include a college, and then separated from said college (St. Louis University).
- SLUH '04 grad  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.139.6.115 (talk) 23:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical Correction

message: I noticed the weasel word template...please specify the sections. I'll be happy to help out! Sr13 (T|C) Editor review 07:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect it was vandalism.  Removed tag, please put something in the talk page if you anyone feels it is necessary to add back in. --JereKrischel 05:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It was not vandalism.  If a statement is made such as "it is well-known nationally, and is widely considered to be one of the top academic institutions in the United States," please provide either a citation to an authoritative source or re-word. --Jwcomo 21:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done a good deal of referencing this article; hope others can help! Sr13 (T|C) 05:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Weasel Words?

message: I attended Punahou and can't help but note that this page reads like a p.r. mailer. Punahou is a hugely powerful institution with a long and complex history, none of which is mentioned here.
72.235.245.193 23:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP message 

message: This article contains a shockingly long list of alumni. There are 70 alumni wiki-linked and over 100 others listed (yes, I counted) that do not even have Wiki pages. I realize this is an exclusive prep school with some very notable alumni, but the list should not be exhaustive. Currently, the list of alumni is about 10 times as long as the actual article text. It needs some serious paring down. Maralia 05:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni 

message: Terry Carroll makes a good point that an encyclopedia article tends to have a short list of alumni.  Since someone has removed the short list and just put in a link to the larger list, this is a great time to write a short narrative summary of the alums with a few prominent examples.  I think I can do that, and that will be even better than the two-list solution I proposed.  Citations continue to be added to the longer list as time permits.  Ronaldloui 08:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are major problems with this section as I see it. The style is not consistent with the majority of articles in similar categories. It is largely unreferenced, especially in regards to living people and the style is inappropriate (see "darling of the paparazzi"). I understand that Wikipedia articles that include alumni lists are inherently problematical, but the solution is to develop a strong consensus about who is and who is not notable beyond being included in a simple list. And by notable I mean someone who is notable in some way directly related to (and verifiable) Punahou in ways other than simply having attended. For example are there sources that reference the type of Western education received at Punahou that influenced Sun Yat-sen? Several major articles have already discussed Barack Obama's time at Punahou in regards to his family situation and what his educational experience consisted of and how that may have shaped him. The Case donation is notable because of the way it reshaped the campus. I think that those types of examples should guide this section and we should err on the side of paring it to roughly rather than being all inclusive. Awotter 20:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow!  flagged before I even finished... well, editors, go to it!  Start your cutting!  Ronaldloui 22:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have mail. I know how you feel, I had an article flagged for immediate deletion about 30 seconds after adding it. What I hope to do is generate some discussion toward consensus on tone and style. It's not a reflection on your hard work so far. Awotter 22:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No list at all, but a summary instead 

message: After taking a glimpse at the article, I think that the alumni section is way too long and needs to be cut down to a summary. At this state, it almost fails the purpose of the alumni article, which was created to reduce the section. We know the school is not all about famous alumni; there needs to be more balance with other sections such as history, tradition, and other aspects of any regular school that are equally important. I'll wait a week for a response to this, if there isn't, I'll be bold change the section. Singularity 22:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After thinking, I change my mind...I guess more content can be included in the other sections to create balance. Singularity 08:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article balance 

message: These sections were added by a series of edits by 67.49.144.30, who has been recently blocked for vandalizing this article. These edits were made two weeks ago, but their content seems a little suspect. Could someone take a look? Flatscan (talk) 02:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for taking a look and removing the sections. Flatscan (talk) 02:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Mission, School Honor Code sections 

message: Albeit I have heard the phrase "Private school, with a public mission" many times (presentations in Chapel, speeches by Dr. James K. Scott, etc.), I don't believe that it has been explicitly stated as the motto of Punahou. Neither the website nor any published materials I've seen state this. Travis Dos Santos-Tam (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: This is a bit unclear to me. As Punahou is a private school founded by Christian missionaries and it requires students to attend Chapel, the term "nonsectarian" might not be accurate. Does this warrant an explanation in the text? Yes, I realize this is the school's IP, I cba to remember my login. 204.107.82.254 (talk) 18:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsectarian 

message: I am trying to work out two things:
# How it is determined who is listed within the various Notable Students and Faculty sub-sections and
# How it is determined who is listed on the List of Punahou School alumni wikipage?  
For example, the In Athletics sub-section details only NFL and Olympic Games whilst mentioning people. 
Is a Neutral point of view with no Conflict of Interest being achieved? 
Proposal: The entire Notable Students and Faculty section simply reads    or remove all references to people and create generic descriptions of the various types of successes the former students have achieved.  Factrules (talk) 03:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable students and faculty 

message: There are several categories of recognition for alumni. 'Winners of the Nobel Peace Prize' is not now one of them. Perhaps this should be changed and winners who attended Punahou be noted briefly in the alumni section.Mydogtrouble (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni Nobel Peace Prize 

message: There are tens of thousands of high schools in the United States, but only 43 presidents.  Obama belongs in the lede. Lahaun (talk) 00:32, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sun Yat-sen is way way more significant than Obama, but I'd grant he only went for a semester or something.T. Anthony (talk) 04:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obama in lede 

message: Would anyone care to address this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2_jBbLpswA;... some-where/how (perhaps under entrance requirements or in the youtube defamation?).Wblakesx (talk) 12:16, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  re Obama 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Punahou has a new digital archive, which may be useful to find sourcing for existing claims in this article or to add to it: https://digitalarchives.punahou.edu/ -- ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 03:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punahou School's new digital archive 

message: This article is riddled with asterisks which lead nowhere. If it's an isolated case, this could be covered by a parenthetical statement, but if the asterisk means the same thing in every case it should be addressed somewhere, but it's not. Maybe this information was copy-pasted from a place which had an explanation of the asterisks, but it's not on the page as is. In many cases I think it's probably indicating that a person did not receive any sort of degree or diploma here, like for Sun Yat-Sen who only attended for a single semester, but it's not clear in other cases.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.166.176 (talk) 11:24, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asterisks