Talk:Seth MacFarlane/Archive 2

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Is a complete plagiarism of this page!!!
:Under this, they can.  Wikipedia does not own the text to articles. Real96 09:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: Seth did the voice of the Emperor in this show.  It was REALLY funny, but also a noteable appearance, should it be added somewhere? --Scottymoze 21:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. Cite it first, through via verify possible facts regarding a living person. Miranda 13:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: his IMDB has reference to the Star Wars Robot Chicken voice...here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532235/ can someone put that in?  i always have trouble with the citings...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottymoze (talk • contribs) 23:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I think this should summarize his appearance in RC, he has also voiced various characters on Adult Swim's Robot Chicken, including a parody of Lion-O. We don't want to make this into a trivia related article. M.(er) 23:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robot Chicken Star Wars Special 

message: So, I'm thinking, "Incidentally, astute viewers will note that Tom Tucker's voice is almost exactly the same, only the cadence is different, as the character is a news anchor." needs re-wording to some extent. I.e., - 1) It makes an assumption about the "astutiveness" (if such an abstract quality exists) of TV viewers. 2) It currently reads as if the cadence of the character's voice is somehow bound to be different on the grounds of the character's occupation. Should I (or someone who gives even more of a damn)re-write this?
PedantKing 19:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure! Knock yourself out!  I wish...I wish we had a better picture of him though. Maybe a gutsy Wikipedian will go to the Comic-Con convention on the 28th or the 29th in San Diego in order to capture a picture of him script reading, drinking alcohol, etc. release it as a free-photo and upload it to Commons.  Miranda 21:51, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bit of re-wording needed...? 

message: The references need cleaning up. There are also interviews on the internet on his life, but we need to make sure that they are in compliance with WP:BLP. Miranda 23:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs need cleaning up. 

message: Its a shitty picture. Can we get a better one ????
Best wishes. 
219.89.103.84 07:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can take one of him and release it under Creative Commons licensing (i.e. CC-BY or CC-BY-SA). No copyrighted pictures will be accepted. Miranda 04:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A better picture will be available tomorrow. Miranda 06:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pic added. M.(er) 23:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could we at least crop the current picture so you don't see his legs and the garbage can on the floor behind him?? --158.83.218.213 (talk) 19:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture. 

message: I count 13 times "9/11", maybe that is a bit off topic? 83.254.213.190 00:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe this is due to 9/11 being a major event for Mr. MacFarlane? He almost was on the plane which hit the Twin Towers. The influence from that incident can be seen with examples from the show. Miranda 10:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it should be tested in the living persons biography guidelines? This isn't blogspot.Coloneldoctor (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It does fit the guidelines of BLP. miranda 23:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, I agree with you Hbdragon. I think it should focus on Mr. MacFarlane's experience with 9/11, not FG's influence. Make it short and sweet. Miranda 10:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeating phrase 

message: I cleaned up the article a bit. Sections 2 (2.1-2.3), 3, and 4 need reliable sources per WP:BLP. Miranda 20:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I cleaned the whole article up. Miranda 18:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great job. the article looks great. --Dan LeveilleTALK 09:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. miranda 12:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup and improvement 

message: ".[3] He said his views were influenced by his gay cousin.[3] A family member had mentioned, "maybe there is a way [his cousin] can be cured". Angered, MacFarlane stated about the situation, "[that it is] fucking horrifying to hear [that] from someone [he] love[s]".[3] This is Wikiganda. Statement about MacFarlane's pro-gay beliefs is enough. Possible acceptance of his cousin's influence, but the rest is either a political or personal statement.
Amended.Coloneldoctor (talk) 17:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think it's a fine illustration. Drone2Gather (talk) 06:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Extraneous Information

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Excellent article! Just a few small concerns and this can earn its GA status.
#The lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD. Specifically, it much touch upon all major points/headings in the article, which I do not feel that it does adequate justice to for an article of this size. A reader should be able to walk away from the lead with a basic idea of the article, without the specific details and formal flow of an actual article. The lead sort of touches on everything, but not enough for a read who only reads the lead to explain to someone else who Seth MacFarlane is. Obviously this sounds a little silly, since it's not too likely that someone is just going to read the lead, but it does need to be beefed up a bit.
#: I think we have a proper lede now. / edg ☺ ☭ 08:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed concerns #2, #4, #6. Someone should test the audiolinks from archived Planet Family Guy. I'm on dialup and can only confirm stuff starts downloading. / edg ☺ ☭ 03:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Annie Award link works. miranda 03:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, my mistake. The Planet Family Guy archive link is this one. / edg ☺ ☭ 03:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: For #3, I merged the sentences (one to the early life and the other to the personal life). Also, I fixed the lead a little, for #1. miranda 04:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I kind of like the article's layout right now. Because, I like the pics not crowding each other (this would be an issue if the section were moved). Also, the "Personal Life" section opens the doors to what MacFarlane does when he's not at work. Plus, CP said that this was not an issue. miranda 09:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I think I'm done. / edg ☺ ☭ 09:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: What a nice start to the New Year! miranda 20:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: One way to make the ending less choppy would be to move Speaking engagements to above Personal life. This might mean crowding the images, since the Star Wars convention pic looks too weirdly somber to hang next to the 9/11 story. Bad idea or okay idea? Are there other plans for this section? / edg ☺ ☭ 09:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I kind of like the article's layout right now. Because, I like the pics not crowding each other (this would be an issue if the section were moved). Also, the "Personal Life" section opens the doors to what MacFarlane does when he's not at work. Plus, CP said that this was not an issue. miranda 09:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I think I'm done. / edg ☺ ☭ 09:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: What a nice start to the New Year! miranda 20:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ending

message: ===Seth MacFarlane===
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*Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Wikipedia:Lead. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?] I think 2 paragraphs are enough.
 The lead is ~32k. So, the lead fits 2-3 para. requirement.  miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a unit of measurement? miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Already  miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Not an issue. This is in the references section. miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Automatic Bot Review and evaluation 

message: The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
*Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Wikipedia:Lead. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?] I think 2 paragraphs are enough.
 The lead is ~32k. So, the lead fits 2-3 para. requirement.  miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a unit of measurement? miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Already  miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Not an issue. This is in the references section. miranda 02:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Seth MacFarlane]]

message: What does the strike have to do with the Political Donations heading?! 68.84.224.36 (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed to political beliefs. miranda 23:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, it's a contract dispute, not a political question at all. 68.84.224.36 (talk) 01:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Politics play a good role in disputes. miranda 01:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In contract negotiations, politics may indeed play a part. One might not contract with someone who can bring a great deal of profit because one disagrees with that man's politics. In the "Writers' Strike" mess, politics was really not a major factor across the board. Some people were unhappy with the terms of their then-existing contract. They decided to take drastic measures to force the other party to agree to a more favorable contract. Life goes on. 68.84.224.36 (talk) 07:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political donations? 

message: The article says his name is Seth Woodbury McFarlane, but the caption under his name says Seth Dinglebury McFarlane. Am I missing something? SexyIrishLeprechaun (talk) 10:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism happens. miranda 05:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will second that concern, with a guy like him how can we trust the name to be in any way correct? :)  he looks more like half asian half jewish, and the name Seth suggests some jewish background. 85.83.19.103 (talk) 18:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name? 

message: wondering if we should put this in the article, per WP:BLP? miranda 02:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I say go ahead, why not, it adds to his love life Ctjf83Talk 02:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dating [[Eliza Dushku]] 

message: Does anybody know what his natural voice is? I know that he sounded like his character Brian on the Family Guy 100th Anniversary Special.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Art10 (talk • contribs) 03:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He sounds like Brian, IRL. You can find videos on YouTube confirming this. miranda 03:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural Voice 

message: Why TF does Griffin Family link to pornography? Vandalism!--69.112.229.71 (talk) 22:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea what link you are referring to, or why you are reporting it here. / edg ☺ ☭ 23:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pornogra[hy? That is no where in the article. Where did you get that from? but if it is in the article, I agree that Family Guy is for the use of humourous entertainment and doesn't show any private human body parts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CelineDeStar (talk • contribs) 11:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was vandalism. This has been solved almost 9 months ago. miranda 13:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  link 

message: There is a mention of MacFarlane having Down Syndrome.  Looks like vandalism, but the edit window doesn't have the text.  Is this hacking?  Can it be removed? 68.188.82.251 (talk) 01:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's vandalism. No, it's not hacking. IPs can edit wikipedia. I removed the vandalism quickly because it is a violation of BLP. If you see such unsourced material in the future, I suggest you remove the text. miranda 01:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Down Syndrome 

message: I am working on getting this to be featured. All needed is for the FG section to be expanded. (i.e. Family Guy Live, criticsm, etc.). More can be found in my sandbox. miranda 05:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: miranda 17:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article/Expansion of ''FG'' section 

message: This article has been been withdrawn as a featured article candidacy at the nominator's request. Please leave the  template in place as it needed by the FAC bot to close the process properly. --ROGER DAVIES talk 19:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC candadiacy 

message: I cleaned up some gratuitous parts:
:Being a popular college speaker....
:At Hanna-Barbera, MacFarlane a "self-proclaimed genius"..."
:MacFarlane is a popular guest to college campuses. 
:Politically, MacFarlane is a devoted Democrat.
Coloneldoctor (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Objectivity

message: Reduced it to "Emmy Award winning..." in opening paragraph due to clumsiness of front-loaded information which is picked up in awards section. Coloneldoctor (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Two-time Emmy Award Winning..."

message: Listing every character he voices in opening frontloads an already bulky article. I had amended this, but it was reverted.Coloneldoctor (talk) 02:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundancy

message: Took elements of Writers' Strike not directly relevant to Family Guy and placed them in their own category in Personal Info. This prioritises the information and aids fact-flow about MacFarlane's personal life.Coloneldoctor (talk) 05:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Activism and the Writers' Strike 

message: Unless it's coming from a reliable source, blogs excluded, do not insert speculation, per BLP. miranda 05:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation on Lovelife 

message: Okay, I heard on the FOX News Channel, about a month ago, that Seth partnered up with Google to do a web-series for them and their sister website, YouTube, called "Seth MacFarlane's Cartoon Calvelcade of Comedy," and that the show would just basicly be like comic strips. Can anyone conform that? --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 22:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I agree. Put the note in. However, also fix the "Loveline" appearance, too. miranda 04:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cartoon Calvlcade of Comedy

message: Last time I checked, 'Canadian' is neither a race nor an ethnic group. Just because his great-grandparents were from Canada shouldn't give liberty to label him as 'partly Canadian.' While Welsh, English and Scottish is perfectly acceptable, calling him an 'American of Canadian Descent' just doesn't make much sense.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.76.80 (talk) 01:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Canadian Ancestry'? 

message: [Previous comments deleted]
:As I have tried to tell you previously, reliable sources are necessary to insert information into the article. You, your IP, and another IP, have been disrupting  the article by taking the fact that "he is an atheist" out of the article. The gay magazine is a reliable, since it is published and a reliable third party source. You Tube is not a reliable source, as I repeated to you before. Since we are dealing with a living person, which has very strict rules (as seen per policy as I have repeated to you above), reliable sources are necessary. You have continuously inserted information which is contra to Wikipedia's rules to the point of disruption, and I kindly suggest for you to stop doing so. Also, whenever you blankly delete sections on which you feel that aren't important is ownership. I suggest for you in the future, since we are dealing with a BLP, to reach consensus on the talk page before deleting certain sections. If you continue to violate these policies, you will be most likely blocked. miranda 03:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't let any editors bully you, Randomface.  It is not appropriate for casual threats of blocks to be thrown around.  Go read over the relevant guidelines and policies, and then come back and make your edits in pursuit of improving the encyclopedia.  Be especially aware of the guidelines involving edit wars and the three-revert-rule, as well as the special concerns given to articles which deal with people.  If you are blocked inappropriately, especially for simply disagreeing with another editor, please feel free to use the "email this user" link on my user page and I will take a look at the issue.  Thank you for your attempts to contribute to the project and good luck.  kmccoy (talk) 03:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary Paragraph 

message: Yeah, I didn't think the sentence, "MacFarlane was born to a Giant penis on 1973 in Kent, Connecticut, father was a fawn, and mother was a half penis, half cupid  flying unicorn" is right, so I deleted it.I think it might be time to semi-protect this page. With all due respect, BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 21:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RFPP is that way. miranda 22:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check the Info 

message: I'm not sure of the rules strictly speaking on this,  so I'm not editing, but the phrases 'shame the bush administration' and refering to the achievement of a political agenda via a cartoon series (or indeed using it as a platform at all) seems a little soapbox to me for a wiki article, I notice the entries were made by a anon editor (which is a catagory I admittedly fall into also) and they dont seem to fit the tone of the article.  I agree his political view should be stated but believe the statements go a little far and could do with a reword.  Thoughs?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.161.13 (talk • contribs) 
: I'm not sure when this was added, and as thus don't know how old it is. However, if there are reliable sources stating his political leanings and criticism of President George W. Bush and his administration and kept clean, I don't see why a couple of sentences illustrating the point couldn't be added. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 22:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political beliefs section 

message: While MacFarlane may or may not be an atheist, we need a reliable source, not a "gossip magazine" claiming that he is an atheist. miranda 18:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Provided source. miranda 17:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atheism 

message: While we can agree that American Dad's father character is deft, how can one give Family Guy's father Peter the same claim?  They are complete opposites. MPA 15:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be proper on the Family Guy and American Dad articles. Not here. miranda 04:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Deft" Father 

message: Seth will be in the new ABC drama series "FlashForward", according to its co-creator. 201.92.234.136 (talk) 22:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need a link per BLP. miranda 04:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FlashForward 

message: The article mentions 2 different birth places: Australia (under the photo) and Connecticut (in the Early Life section).  I wasn't able to confirm either one by a quick google search.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.65.63 (talk) 14:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 1.) He was born in CT. The Australian edit was vandalism. 2.) Don't rely on Google search to get a confirmation link on a living person. miranda 20:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Place 

message: Can someone please fix 56-7; and 61-4 to citation format? Thanks. miranda 06:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: miranda 09:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix Refs to Citation Format 

message: Is he by any chance releated to Robert McFarlane?
86.41.110.123 (talk) 22:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Gage (talk) 23:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Releated to Robert McFarlane