Talk:Baccano!

message: Trying to beef this up with summaries. Looks terrible. I spent about an hour trying to figure out how to make a table like the episode lists, with the title and ISBN and maybe publication date on top, and a summary below, but the table tutorial just gave me a headache.  Doceirias 22:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried messing around with the table instructions and ended up with the table you see below. We can tweak it here before introducing it to the article. I think the biggest thing it needs is left-aligned  titles, but I haven't figured that out yet. Leebo T/C 23:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I tried a few things that should have left justified it, but they just showed up as text. Otherwise, pretty much looks good to go. Thanks! Doceirias 01:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Actually, probably a bigger problem is that it'll run right into the infobox. I'll have to start a character list or something on top of it... Doceirias 02:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Never mind, they appear to have fixed that bug in Firefox. Doceirias 02:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. I've been looking forward to the anime series since seeing the trailer. I'll contribute more once I'm familiar with the plot. Leebo T/C 02:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm looking forward to finding out just how they're going to get four novels into twelve episodes. Looks like the entire first novel is going to get compressed into one episode, or else spread out through the rest of the series in flashbacks. Should be interesting to compare. I would have written longer novel summaries, but I'm terrible at writing summaries in the proper style. Have you seen the character chart on the official site? Astonishing. Arrows everywhere. Doceirias 02:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added seven new novel listings (Grand Punk Revisited novel, The five 'A Man in the Killer' novels, and 'The Illusional First and Last Episode' novel). Could someone over in the land of the rising sun get their ISBNs and Release dates? I'm also unsure about the Grand Punk revisited Release date, but my... sources tell me feb 2005. Ifsey 00:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: With some difficulty I've removed them, since they don't exist. I own all the novels, and I believe what you're actually talking about here are uncollected short stories that appeared in magazines, but not in bunko format; they have no ISBNs, and should not be listed with the real novels. The 193X one, for example, is a novel serialized as a bonus for the anime DVDs. I hate to just take all the work out, but there were a number of unnecessary or confusingly written additions, and changing the translation of Shaba was not, in my professional opinion, accurate. Doceirias (talk) 02:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  what? really? damn. i'm gonna kill my bro when i see him next. he said he was gonna buy me the first 2 A man in the killer novels. well, i'll talk to him and ask him, since he just told me the full listings. Oh, and i hardly think skipping back a few changes is difficult, as that's what you've done. i added more information in novel descriptions, which have dissapeared  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.1.77 (talk) 17:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not difficult, I just fucked it up. Forgot you have to do it from the history page. Adding Tick's name and correcting the spelling on Huey were legitimate changes, and I should have kept them; some of the others seemed awkwardly crammed in. Not that you can't add that information, but try and make it read better when you do. Doceirias (talk) 17:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  OKey Dokey. anyways, back to the light novels. I've been tryin' to get my hands on Alice in jails (prison AND world/free chapter) (japanese language) online, and to no avail. ideas?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.1.77 (talk) 23:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Street is probably the best translation here; shaba means the world outside of prison, and the book covers the events on the streets of Chicago. Amazon.co.jp sells the volumes, but ordering from Kinokunia will probably be cheapter; Amazon's shipping is insane. Doceirias (talk) 03:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Kinokunia don't have it (or at least the japanese website disagrees with me), and amazon ship to the uk for £20
Apparently, if you spend 1,500 yen, free delivery, but i doubt if that includes outside japan
Thanks anyways.  ifsey (talk)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.76.4 (talk) 23:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know if they have shops in the UK, but they can order anything for you if you have the ISBN. Doceirias (talk) 01:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light Novels section 

message: Before anyone deletes it citing copyright, I should point out that ANN stole the Overview plot summary from Wikipedia, not the other way around. Doceirias 18:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ANN 

message: Ummm... So what is stupid commotion??? I still don't understand what the premise of the story is :/
Something about Alchemists killing one another, going into hiding, coming out of hiding and then waa?? 24.19.25.118 08:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Based on the Anime) They go their seperate ways and eventually, by accident or planned, end up on a train called the Flying Pussyfoot. None of the immortals has died yet (Up until episode7 at least), but there is a mysterious killer on that train called the 'Rail tracer'(immortal or not?). The killer has already killed over 6 mortals including the two and only train drivers for the non-stop trip to NY. That's basicly it, for the anime at least. Ge4ce 11:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story 

message: Reveals way too much. If you like the story so much, learn moonspeak and translate the light novels.
: A. I am a professional translator, and do translate light novels for a living. I'd love to translate these, yes.
: B. I wrote one line versions of all those characters, and have been busy trimming excessive and inaccurate additions by IPs ever since. Doceirias (talk) 07:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Spoilers are fine in Wikipedia, just not on the main page. The main page is supposed to provide basic information. Severe spoilers about characters should be put on a separate page. Actually, considering the extensive amount of characters Baccano! has, creating a separate "List of Baccano! Characters", with spoilers and everything, is a pretty good idea. Scroogey McDucky (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That would help a lot, because the character list now is pretty much just a rough description using incomplete sentences. And its almost impossible to describe them any more than what there is now without delving into serious spoilers that apparently get people angry... as if nobody realizes that if you wiki a show you're going to get spoiled. :|  -- 71.136.237.118 (talk) 12:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop bloating the characters section, Doceirias 

message: From the paragraph on episode 13:
"They have a thing going on." & "and Isaac gives another cringe-inciting explanation."
Isn't it a bit too informal? -Kraker2k (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Episode Descriptions 

message: i want to know the source for the 5/6 voice actors domn for Baccano! also, i just noticed Szilard is a friend of barney the purple dinosaur. silly alchemists  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifsey (talk • contribs) 22:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Funimation's podcast. Doceirias (talk) 04:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Voice Cast

message: Needs some reception ;P. Here's some stuff from a quick search (all on the anime so far):
*ANN: 
**Reviews: Boxset, DVD 1, DVD 2, DVD 3, DVD 4, Blu-Ray
**Shelf Life: DVD 1, DVD 2, DVD 3, DVD 4, In General
**ANNCast (In General): Sept. '09, Dec. '09
**X Button (Video game column lol): Generally
**Best and Most Notable of 2009
*Active Anime: DVD 1, DVD 2, DVD 3, DVD 4, Complete Series
*Anime World Order Podcast: Generally
*Mania.com: DVD 1, DVD 2, DVD 3, DVD 4, Complete Set Complete Set UK Complete BR
*ICv2: DVD 1
*Sequentialtart.com: DVD 3, DVD 4, The Tarties, Generally
*AICN: In general
*THEM Anime: In General
*OtakuUSA: Character Guide (May be useful, I dunno)
*DVDTalk: DVD 1, DVD 2, DVD 3, DVD 4, Complete Series
*Escapist Magazine: Generally
*Dengeki Novel Prize: Judges' comments
*ComicBookBin: Generally
~Itzjustdrama ? C  21:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Striking Firefox News as it is not a reliable source. —Farix (t | c) 14:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed it because it confuses me when I look real quick. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Hi. I've used some of the sources you listed to create a Reception section in the article. Regards, Jagged 85 (talk) 06:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Stashing a link here so I can find it later. Hulu announcement form Active Anime ~Itzjustdrama ? C  23:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Stashing another link  ~Itzjustdrama does not equal a Drama Llama 19:52, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: Just realized that 13 episode descriptions from the official site have comments from the staff (in yellow). Noting that here. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  20:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Stashing a link here so I can find it later. Hulu announcement form Active Anime ~Itzjustdrama ? C  23:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Stashing another link  ~Itzjustdrama does not equal a Drama Llama 19:52, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments from Staff 

message: I thought it might be good to note here, but I'm currently writing a draft for a future episode split. Anyone who feels like it can take a look at my subpage. I'm rewriting all of the episode summaries, so it might take a while because I'm attending school atm. Any comment is appreciated here. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure there can be a split to Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent. I'm sure there's isn't enough for an Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent separately, but maybe together.... Is there a guideline for this? I'm asking at the project. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing a need for any individual character articles. The episodes and character list are good splits, but I personally like to see notability independent of the work before splitting an individual character. Otherwise it tends to end up becoming a fancruft depository, regardless of the creator's intentions. Doceirias (talk) 00:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a point. Going through it though, it looks like there's something for Claire and Ladd. Not actually too sure. But I'll finish the character list first and then the episode list. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. I lied. I got a light novel list split draft done first. (It was so much easier to do.) It's ready to split at any time. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  01:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks really good; more substantial than I'd expected. Only thing I'd point out is that the DVD extras aren't eight full novels, but two serialized stories. (Which I really hope get collected elsewhere someday...) Doceirias (talk) 01:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed it. I'm going to split it in a moment. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  22:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Split episode list too. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I currently have two versions of the compiled images: one I made before the draft with Claire, Jacuzzi, Czeslaw, Ladd, Maiza, Isaac, the Gandor, Firo, Chane, Nice, Lua, Miria, Eve and Ennis and another I just finished with everyone. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm very tempted to just split whatever I have to make it open to other editors. It's currently very incomplete and completely unreferenced, with the exception of most of the Japanese VA's and the production and reception sections. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  14:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to split what I have. However incomplete it may be. What I know is ridden with holes and referencing is extremely difficult for me. Hopefully, moving it to mainspace could help with that. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  19:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Split it. Referencing and information correction is appreciated from anyone who can do so. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  17:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode list split 

message: While I'm talking about splits. I'm also drafting a character list split (Found here) and a Claire Stanfield split (Draft located here). I think there can also be a Ladd Russo split, if it's worthwhile to note. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  22:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure there can be a split to Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent. I'm sure there's isn't enough for an Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent separately, but maybe together.... Is there a guideline for this? I'm asking at the project. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing a need for any individual character articles. The episodes and character list are good splits, but I personally like to see notability independent of the work before splitting an individual character. Otherwise it tends to end up becoming a fancruft depository, regardless of the creator's intentions. Doceirias (talk) 00:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a point. Going through it though, it looks like there's something for Claire and Ladd. Not actually too sure. But I'll finish the character list first and then the episode list. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. I lied. I got a light novel list split draft done first. (It was so much easier to do.) It's ready to split at any time. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  01:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks really good; more substantial than I'd expected. Only thing I'd point out is that the DVD extras aren't eight full novels, but two serialized stories. (Which I really hope get collected elsewhere someday...) Doceirias (talk) 01:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed it. I'm going to split it in a moment. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  22:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Split episode list too. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I currently have two versions of the compiled images: one I made before the draft with Claire, Jacuzzi, Czeslaw, Ladd, Maiza, Isaac, the Gandor, Firo, Chane, Nice, Lua, Miria, Eve and Ennis and another I just finished with everyone. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  00:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm very tempted to just split whatever I have to make it open to other editors. It's currently very incomplete and completely unreferenced, with the exception of most of the Japanese VA's and the production and reception sections. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  14:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to split what I have. However incomplete it may be. What I know is ridden with holes and referencing is extremely difficult for me. Hopefully, moving it to mainspace could help with that. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  19:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Split it. Referencing and information correction is appreciated from anyone who can do so. ~Itzjustdrama ? C  17:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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