Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Location Format/Archive 1

message: I encourage everyone involved in this project to also take a look at the disambiguation style proposal being discussed at Wikipedia:Disambiguation/Style. While that proposal is still under discussion, in its current form it would oppose formatting place names in the style you're proposing here on disambiguation pages. The draft style guide discourages linking any words other than the actual disambiguated pages.
Here's the rationale: someone (perhaps a Canadian) types in "London" into the search box, and it brings up (naturally) London, England. So they click on the See also London (disambiguation) link to look for the London, Ontario page. Having any other links on the disambiguation page other than those of alternative "Londons" would just be distracting. Dab pages aren't for exploration, they're for clarifying which page someone is looking for. Your input on this would be welcome at Wikipedia Talk:Disambiguation/Style.
I support this idea for non-dab pages, however. It's an excellent idea. —Wahoofive (talk) 15:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

message: Note:the following is slightly scarcastic and hostile.  Please don't take personally.
So, instead of making simple, whatever the name of the article is links for articles on places, you want us to hide the name of the article and make it easier for people to mistakenly go to an article they didn't mean to go to, in order to... save one page load. Within the first 3 lines or so of every place article with a comma is a link to the place it's in(such as Ontario for your example).  Sorry to come on so hostile, but I really don't understand.  Is wanting to go to the article on Ontario when you see a link to London, Ontario a problem that you or someone you know has actually had? JesseW 04:15, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wait, what is the idea, again? 

message: Might I suggest you use a bot for this project's task? (ask around on WP:BR). Radiant_>|< July 5, 2005 14:04 (UTC)
*Sounds reasonable.  Vegaswikian 18:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot? 

message: This project violates style guidelines elsewhere (as documented above).  And, it would make lists horrible to maintain.
A set of pages that I've participated in at List of Latin place names in the Balkans are already listed by Country.  Adding the redundant country name to each and very city, province, or whatever would make the page even more hard to maintain than it is already!
Maybe it would be a good idea for folks to contribute to article projects rather than style mangling projects?
:--William Allen Simpson 04:42, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists 

message: OK, I checked, and there's not a single reference at this time to the string "San Francisco, California, United States" — and nowhere on the first few search pages where such a construct would be useful.
There are places where London, Ontario, Canada occur, and AFAICT, they should be fixed.  Look at Ballymote, Ontario.
Or Uxbridge (disambiguation) or Woolwich (disambiguation).  There's simply no reason to link Ontario or Canada, and thus no reason for each to be separately linked.
Moreover, this project seems a continuation of the battles over place names that took place last year.  Especially North American, but also the attempt by some pedants to carry the same naming conventions into every other country under the banner of uniformity.
Well, the polls have been over for months, the RFCs have been written, and the current guidelines say "Follow local conventions" and "Maintain consistency within each country" instead.  This project so-called "worldwide view" isn't acceptable.
Therefore, I propose changing the project definition to follow actual best practices:
#locations such as cities should be formatted canonically as required at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places).
#any country should only be linked where needed to establish separate context.
#components of a place name should never be separately linked where they are already joined in context.
In other words, reverse all the goals of this project!
:--William Allen Simpson 05:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: --William Allen Simpson 12:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Follow actual practices 

message: Hi there:
I was introduced to your project two days ago, on March 2, 2006, when MrD9 decided to apply the principles espoused on your project page to Congress of the Confederation.  I reverted his changes, and he re-reverted them, citing your project page as an authority.  I then read your page, and decided that this wasn't a fight I wanted to get into.  However, in making his changes, there was a duplicate wikilink.  You see, the Congress of the Confederation had taken up residence in both Trenton, New Jersey and Princeton, New Jersey at various points in its existence, so MrD9 had two New Jersey wikilinks.  I therefore made the change “Trenton, New Jersey” → “Trenton, New Jersey”, which MrD9 promptly changed to “Trenton, New Jersey”.  This is, to say the least, just plain asinine, and I reverted it, incorrectly citing Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links).  Now why I write that this citation was incorrect is because, if I truly followed the citation, I would have to revert all of MrD9's changes.  Therefore, I would like to request that you do two things:
* Get your preferred styles entered into the Manual of Style.  If William Allen Simpson is making improper changes to the Manual of Style, get those changes reversed.  For good or for ill, the Manual of style takes precedence over a WikiProject when they're at the same level of specificity.
* Make changes to your project page that the construction “(city), (state)” is a bad idea, because it creates a needless redirect.  (In the “(city), (state)”, the redirect is necessary to provide the context for the state link.)
— DLJessup (talk) 16:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's ok... happens to everyone. //MrD9 22:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:Manual of style (links) 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 13:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 18:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

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thread_title:  Comment on the WikiProject X proposal 

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thread_title:  WikiProject X is live!