Talk:Mount of Temptation

message: Theoderic (quoted here by Denys Pringle), Edward Robinson & Eli Smith and others write -ana, not -ania, so Mount Quarantana. Two variants, or a typo?
The Latin name als shows up as  Mons Quarantana, without an i, in good sources, such as Trelawney Saunders's "An Introduction to the Survey of Western Palestine" (here) or Rehav Rubin's "Portraying the Land: Hebrew Maps of the Land of Israel from Rashi to the Early 20th Century" (here). Arminden (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mount Quarantana for sure. Quarantania as well? 

message: * There are 12+ more mentions in the Crusader itineraries translated in Pringle, although Google's previews cuts off how many you can see at any one time.
::::3 25 94 116 138 144 171 178 195 222 232 281 282 284-5 348 366 368-9 379 389
* There's not much there, but the French wiki has a separate entry on the Templar fortification.
* This nonRS site lists that there were 6 Orthodox monks left in residence in 2020.
* Great photograph here when it comes out of copyright.
* The sources listed in this bibliography, although most should go into spinning off a Dok article or on the monastery page
 — LlywelynII 03:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for future article expansion

message: The official name on local government maps and placards seems to be Jebel Quruntul, which the CIA mangled into Jabal al-Qarantal. Mount of Temptation seems to have also been calqued into Arabic  (Jebel et-Tajriba, "Mount of the Temptation") for some of the other signs. See eg the 1.3 km sign here and parking lot sign here.
I know the Arabic entry for this mountain is parked at  (Jabal al-Arbayin, "Mount of the Forty") butas near as I can tellthat's simply a mistake. The official name is Jebel Quruntul, the new "tourist-friendly" name is Jebel et-Tajriba, and "Mount of the Forty" just seems to be a combination of confusing the meaning of Quarantana with the name of a different mountain in Lebanon. — LlywelynII 20:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Arabic names

message: See here, here, &c. This article previously said Jebel Quruntul had both 350m and 366m of elevation and that has been copied everywhere around the internet where people talk about this mountain. (A)There's a bit over or under 350m of prominence (depending on where you choose to measure from as the low point but that's because Jericho starts about 250m in the hole. (B)There are other nearby higher peaks that look kinda like part of Quruntul from the valley, but those are properly parent peaks and they all have different names so far. The peak under/just beside the fortress is about 138m above sea level. — LlywelynII 23:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Elevation

message: One of the alternative names listed for the mountain is "Douka" (Δουκα) in Greek. Any connection to the Greek term "δούξ", doux, plural "δούκες", doukes), which was used to translate the Latin Dux? Dimadick (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Or to the Byzantine family, Ducas/Doukas? No, almost certainly not, unless "δούξ" was in use shortly after Alexander and/or comes from a Semetic root. One or the other may have influenced the shift in spelling since the time of the Maccabeans and Josephus though. — LlywelynII 10:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Douka