Talk:Chongqing

message: Isn't it a good idea to put the paragraphe "landmarks" under the paragraphe "tourism"?
I added a paragraphe "sports" into the article. (Rob)
Did some Chinese tourism official write this section in the first place? It certainly reads that way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.198.247 (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Landmarks and Tourism 

message: I don't know if this is something to do with my browser (Netscape 7) but the section labelled 'subdivisions' looks like just a stream of text, withno formatting. DJ Clayworth 14:35, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Mjklin converted Magnus-style table into the ugly traditional style for reasons beyond me, with the edit summary "redid some of the table of provinces" (btw, they are counties and districts, not provinces at all). He has destroyed the table in the process. I have asked him why. --Menchi 15:51, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've reverted the changes, but the newbie named Mjklin should still explain himself. -- user:zanimum
He said something at User_talk:Menchi#Talk:Chongqing#Table. --Menchi 03:13, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: The History section asserts that Chongqing "holds the distinction of being the most bombed city in history".  In addition to being ambiguous at best (most frequently bombed?  most heavily bombed?) and grammatically incorrect at worst, this assertion is not supported by a cited source.  Would someone please volunteer to add the source in?  --Pkchan 06:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most bombed city in history 

message: The infobox (Ficus) and text (Magnolia delavayi) give different trees. Can someone correct whichever is wrong, please! - MPF 16:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: someone added "Actually the city tree is 黄葛树，FICUS VLRENS VAR．SUBLANCEOLATA, widely planted in southwest China. It could survive under extreme living conditions (hot weather, dry land, even sprout from cracks of stone cliff), which is one of the reasons that got peole's hearts in Chongqing." which i removed because it is badly written. someone needs to provide a source for the official tree and correct the conflict though... Jessi1989 (talk) 23:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

text: ok, i'm gonna change it to the ficus lacor based on this chinese goverment website http://english.cq.gov.cn/ChongqingGuide/MountainCity/1914.htm Jessi1989 (talk) 23:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: City tree

message: On the People's Republic of China's article the population of Chongqing "city urban area" is reported of 3.934 million people (8th place in PRC's ranking), though this article reports 12 million people living in "urban area of chongqing proper" (3rd place in ranking). Where is the truth?
MFG, Jul 27 2006 00:47
The PRC page is using stats from 2001 estimations. This page claims 2005 data. Anyone know where to get this data to fix other pages? Or is there a way to have the data linked in the two pages to show the same number?
Mike2525 01:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: The links are of questionable quality.  The one just links to a whole bunch of other sites.
Can you be a bit more specific? Which links are questionable and which one links to a whole bunch of other sites? I'm not the China expert by any stretch, but I'm pretty good at working on Wikipedia articles. Just point me in the right direction. Greenw47 (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: I don't have the expertise to really help out, but The Economist has an in-depth article on this citie's growth that could probably be of great help to you guys: .--YbborTalk 17:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Reference 

message: Article needs two maps: 1) a map showing the municipality close-up, with administrative divisions; and 2) a map showing the municipality in relation to the surrounding provinces, putting it in context. Badagnani 22:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The map showing the location of Chongqing is confusing. There are 4 areas highlighted. I showed it to a co-worker who knows nothing about China, and he was not able to tell which of the 4 highlighted areas is supposed to be Chongqing. I think the map should be idiot proof. Greenw47 (talk) 14:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agre with this: Also, the map at List of administrative divisions of Chongqing doesn't match the boundaries in the map at Yuzhong District; does anyone know why? Moonraker12 (talk) 13:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: I removed the Magnolia Street image because it seems like a random image of Chongqing and therefore does not represent any landmark from the city at all. 
Furthermore, I am questioning some of the tourism places suggested in the article including a) Ladies' Town where the ladies are..., b) Biggest toilet in the world with uniquely shaped toilet bowls..., and c) skyscraper view - unless the contributor suggests a specific spot in the city where one can enjoy CQ's impressive skyline. Heilme (talk) 01:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magnolia Street image and tourism section 

message: While working in China as a visiting lecturer in 1983 I visited Chongqing. The site that left the deepest impression was a small concentration camp with watch towers and high walls with lots of barbed wire where, so I was told, during the war with Japan Chiang Kai-shek had interned and tortured high-ranking  followers of Mao. On two later visits I did not get a chance to see this place and met only with blank faces, nor has anybody I know ever heard of it. It appears to have definitely lost its tourist-attraction status. Would anyone have any info about it? Marschner --Marschner (talk) 10:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Concentration Camp - ??

message: I understand Chongqing has (or had) a number of funicular railways as part of its transport system. Does anyone know anything about them? Moonraker12 (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not been to Chongqing, but the funiculars pictured look quite similar to those I saw in 2009 in the passenger ports of smaller cities elsewhere on the Yangtze's Three Gorges Reservoir; see photos in :commons:Category:Maoping Port, :commons:Category:Badong Port. They take passengers and luggage from the actual dockside (usually, a floating dock) at the water level some 20-30 meters up to where the stationary river terminal building is (i.e., city street level). The ticket to ride the funicular was 1-2 yuan in those towns, and practically all departing or arriving boat passengers chose to use the funicular rather than to walk up/down the stairs. I surmise that the system is quite ubiquitous in the ports of the Three Gorges Reservoir, because the  water level in the reservoir (which varies quite a lot based on the flood control / power production needs) is usually quite a ways below the cities' street level, and walking up and down to the dock would be quite a chore without them. Chongqing being a major river port, they probably lots more of these things than smaller river ports do! -- Vmenkov (talk) 03:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Funiculars 

message: Is this city the WWII "Chungking" or central capital (Chung) King (capital) after the fall of Nanking or Southern (Nan) capital (King? Chunking has been the most heavely bombed city by the Japanese. The proof is in the Tim-Life book on CBI (China-Burma-India). Han Suyin has written a novel on Chungking (Destination Chungking) and her experiences of war.
http://www.guidelecture.com/critiquet.asp?titre=Destination%20Tchoungking in French
Takima (talk) 15:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read the history section. "Chong" means double/repeat and "Qing" means celebration. "Central Capital" would be spelled "Zhongjing" in pinyin. Any reading into "Central Capital" is simply mistaken. HkCaGu (talk) 04:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Furthermore, if it meant "central capital" the Pinyin would be zhong1 jing1. In Jyutping Cantonese, this becomes zung1 ging1, whereas "Chongqing" would be written cung4 hing3. WikiPro1981X (talk) 22:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Chungking

message: Originally, back at the establishment of the PRC, there was no separate Chongqing or even Tianjin Municipality, nor was there a separate Hainan Province. But the latter two were created first, and it was not until 1997 that Chongqing was carved out of Sichuan. 
Over time, Central People's Government has had its reasons for such forging. It was Chairman Mao who envisioned a project to move vital national [insert word] to the west, notably Chongqing, which, along with the rest of Sichuan, was bombed in the War of Resistance, safely held the ROC government. During the Jiang Administration, Shanghai was beginning to be rapidly opened up and re-developed, and it is my (and a native of Leshan, Sichuan and Shanghai) belief that Chongqing was created in 1997 to avoid over-concentration of national finances. Indeed, Sichuan now has a major sub-provincial city, Chengdu, as its capital. No administrative trouble there.
Recently, while on Ren-Ren Wang (the Chinese FB), one of my friends posted an article "Chongqing —— Chicago on the Yangtze". The 1997 decision and the dense skyline make that moniker more realistic. 
Any thoughts on to this moniker? --何献龙4993 (talk) 04:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/08/06/chicago-on-the-yangtze/
http://www.maximizingprogress.org/2010/08/chicago-on-yangtze-chinas-chongqing.html
https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/08/chicago-on-the-yangtze/
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184198
https://www.reddit.com/r/Foodforthought/comments/d1p4c/chicago_on_the_yangtze/Kdammers (talk) 19:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Future 

message: I fixed the redirects so that "Chungking", "Chongking", "Chung King", all point here, with the disambig at the top of the article listing all the possible variants i could find. I think ive made it as clear as it can be.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirects

message: This morning I heard a BBC news item about Chongqing which again brought up the question of its population. John Humphrys who is in the city reports: "Chongqing is hideous. It's the biggest city in the world you've probably never heard of. How big? Hard to say because it's growing so fast. It'll reach 30 million pretty soon - if it hasn't already. And they're throwing up high rise buildings (VERY high) faster than you can count them. See here. 
If it is true that the population is close to 30 million (whether higher or lower), then serious revisions should be made not only to the data on the People's Republic of China where it is stated that Shanghai is the largest city with almost 20 million but also to lists of largest cities, etc., etc. Is anyone in a position to look into this? - Ipigott (talk) 14:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Humphrys is either not that knowledgeable or is deliberately being vague. The true urban area pop. of the metropolis is nowhere near that of Shanghai. The area of the entire municipality, however, has long exceeded 25 million. And for the other parts of his talk, yes the city is foggy. Yes the CBD skyline is growing rapidly (and I have friends who have claimed that its skyline is already denser than Pudong's). Yes, the GDP per capita is comparatively low. --HXL 何献龙 14:29, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, HXL49, for your elucidation. I have been going through the Chongqing authorities' pages looking for more precise data on population but did not find too much on the city proper. The demographics page is rather cryptic. I did however see that a population census is currently underway. See here. As you read Chinese, perhaps you will be able to analyze the data better than most of us when it becomes available. - Ipigott (talk) 16:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See the Shanghai talk page for further discussion on the population of Chongqing. - Ipigott (talk) 09:55, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population again by the BBC 

message: *Ba Manzi Tomb in Chongqing - During China's Warring State Period (475-221BC), Ba Manzi was a general commanding the Ba Kingdom's army.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.70.242 (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Ba Manzi Tomb in Chongqing

message: Shouldn't the city and the municipality have separate articles? 
Is the city even it's own political entity in any way (has it a major?) or is it all one big blob?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.53.210.130 (talk) 21:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. The Chinese Wikipedia has separate articles on article on Chongqing Municipality (officially 重庆市) and the Chongqing Metropolitan Area (重庆主城区). This is because the administrative boundaries of Chongqing extend far beyond the immediate urban area. The only other municipality in the PRC or ROC that even comes close in this regard is Beijing. Yes, the city is a major political entity, because it is a direct-controlled municipality, which grants it provincial-like status. We have already discussed something like this, albeit 8 years ago... See this discussion. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 04:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I think that this would be a very good idea. Zazaban (talk) 23:38, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate article for the city 

message: The picture with subtitle "Japanese bombing of Chongqing, 1941", is it really correct? I've seen it accompanying descriptions of the Nanjing massacre as is pretty sure that it shows a scene from that event.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.28.3.140 (talk) 06:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The source National Archives and Records Administration states that it is here and now that I look at it... Some random IP changed the description in commons.... --Cold Season (talk) 06:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong picture? 

message: My fellow Wikipedians, it is nothing but a shame to see this article so poorly written and prematurely summed up. Chongqing deserves so much better. I demand some cleaning up! The article is missing important information and lacks composition. There are too many red links and too few sources. On top of this, most photos are a disgrace to watch (I have recently changed the main photo though, as you can see it now looks so much better). Many parts of this article are too short, for example the part on Chongqing cuisine which now is just a few sentences long..... Is anyone up for the challenge? /(Jonipoon-talk) 20:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  URGENT: Needs some cleaning up! 

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replies: text: Any of the two that's relevant to the statement in question would be good enough. I deleted "nyt2" citation before seeing your comment, feel free to revert it and add it whatever that's relevant.--LLTimes (talk) 15:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Chongqing]] 

message: "The decision was reportedly made at a meeting of the Politburo Standing Committee on 7 March, during which security tsar Zhou Yongkang cast a lone dissenting vote"
Americans have this comical B/S affectation of a "drug czar" or "drug tsar",    I am pretty sure that Chinese don't !       And despite being invented in the USA 25 years ago,  it hasn't really caught on as a job description, even there !  Eregli bob (talk) 08:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsar ? 

message: The demographics table calculates population % increase / decrease (automatically?) but as the years have different gaps between them the % changes are not very useful.  E.g. change from 1 to 6 million is shown as a 500% increase, but this was over a 30 year period.  A better measure would be to show an annualised increase which I calculate to be:
Year     Pop.      ±% Annualised
1949    1,003,000	
1979    6,301,000    	6.3%
1983    13,890,000    21.8%
1996    15,297,000    0.7%
1997    30,220,000    97.6%
2000    30,512,763    0.3%
2004    30,550,000    0.0%
2010    28,846,170    -1.0%
As a newbie I do not want to edit the page directly, could someone have a look please?
155.136.80.172 (talk) 14:29, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population change 

message: According to the Wikipedia article on Global City Index, Chongqing is 84th, with a drop of 18 places, based on 3.8 points.Kdammers (talk) 16:23, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global City Index ranking 

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message: I have removed this text from the page:
During this period, Chongqing was one of the world's anti-fascist command center just like Moscow, London and Washington, D.C.
This was added in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chongqing&diff=948463053&oldid=947694620 and later referenced in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chongqing&diff=948464031&oldid=948463053.
I am not satisfied with this citation as it currently stands. I will be happy to see my change reverted if a relevant, verifiable passage from the cited text is provided.
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message: @Uriel1022, from where does "Ch'ong-ch'in" come from or derive? I don't see it attested anywhere in the article. And I fear three romanizations of the same name becomes too many for such a prominent place in the article. Remsense诉 14:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Remsense, they are romanizations from Western Mandarin, or the Spoken Language of Western China (see 重 ch'ong & 慶 ch'in). It's a Sichuanese dictionary, quite old (published in 1900). But if you know one thing or two about Sichuan, then you understand there is no regulation of the local language, which basically makes Western Mandarin the only standard resource to draw on. On a second thought I feel it's not appropriate to display "Ch'ong-ch'in" on the infobox, but I suggest leaving it under "Notes" to serve as an indication of a more proper pronunciation of the name according to the local language. Uriel1022 (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course! I am not sure the best way to handle this generally, as you said there is an enormous amount of fluidity both phonetically and orthographically: we don't want to exclude known forms, but I would worry about myself accidentally holding up one as an academic exercise despite it not being in use on the ground (of course I know not at all whether that would be the case here, you would far better than I) Remsense诉 16:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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