Talk:Iran (word)

message: It would be useful to add in a section about European cognate words, such as Aryan and Éire. Fig (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think your understanding of the word 'cognate' may be overly restrictive. Generally, any two words can be considered cognates if they both derive from a common origin - no matter how remote, how many degrees of separation they're removed, and no matter how far their meanings have diverged. Firejuggler86 (talk) 03:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: European cognate words

message: Strabo states:
"The name also of Ariana is extended so as to include some part of Persia, Media, and the north of Bactria and Sogdiana; for these nations speak nearly the same language."
Strictly speaking, this would be the earliest evidence of the name Iran.  I have also collected some sources here: which shows the name has been used continuously for the geographical area since Sassani/Strabo.--Nepaheshgar (talk) 05:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Strabo

message: I reverted Nepaheshgar's edits , because I think we should summarize the historical usage of the word and its context. Listing some random examples of the usage is not much useful. Also, for the usage of the word and its context, it's better to rely on secondary and tertiary sources, rather than our own interpretation of primary sources. For example, it's better to rely on Iranica's articles or the related academic papers (or for example, Gnoli's book for the pre-Islamic usage of the word and its contexts). Alefbe (talk) 04:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nepaheshgar's edits

message: I have removed the last paragraph in this sectionbecause it was both redundant and out of point. Al-Iskandar Tzaraath (talk) 11:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "History of the debate" 

message: Ref. #1 dose not exist. I didn't remove it because if I did, I would have to remove the first paragraph. I think both of them should be removed. Amir.azeri (talk) 10:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ref #1 dose not exist

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_naming_dispute does not explain why Reza Shah chose to request foreign correspondence say "Iran." In particular, foreign influence, re: Hjalmar Schacht. 208.127.21.94 (talk) 10:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article does not discuss change 

message: The Isfahani quote as originally included was in very bad English: Arian which is also Persia is situation in the middle of these six countries and these six countries form its borders. Its SE is China, its North is bordered by the lands of Turk, Its Southern Middle borders India, Its Northern Middle borders Byzantium, its SW borders Africa and its NW is is in the hand of Berbers. The only place I could find this version of the quote was at Full text of "On the necessity of the unity of Iranian people" at Archive.org, which is not actually cited in this article. However, both the Aryan and the Iranian peoples page have a more grammatically correct version of the quote, although I cannot find the original source to verify the accuracy for that version. However, since that version was more correct, I copied and pasted it into this article. I hope that is acceptable, given the unavailability of the original translated source at this time; if this change is not acceptable, please feel free to revert. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hamza Isfahani quote: more grammatically correct translation borrowed from another WP page