Talk:American Gothic

message: What the heck is "beaverboard"? --SeizureDog 22:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a type of particle board. --76.105.145.143 (talk) 08:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh, there is a wiki about it. Guinness323 (talk) 15:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Beaverboard"?

message: This line just doesn't sit well: "The house, in Eldon, Iowa, is said to be the second most recognizable house in the United States, following the White House." It's not found in any of the external link sources, and I just don't see that being true. While I agree the farmers are very recognizable, I would suggest houses like Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater are far better known. Bobak 22:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "2nd most recognizable"? 

message: Here's a proposal to expand this article on this important cultural icon. It's modeled on the "Mona Lisa" Wikipedia article.
 1 History of the painting
 1.1 The painting of "American Gothic"
 1.2 The Art Institute of Chicago contest
 2 Aesthetics
 2.1 The painting's style
 2.2 Wood's compositional objective
 2.3 Interpretations of "American Gothic"
 3 Role in popular culture
 3.1 Evolving popular reaction and understanding of "American Gothic"
 3.2 Parodies
 4 References
 5 External links
What do you think?
--Dkwong323 04:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion of this article 

message: The article mentions that the woman symbolizes a "housewife" but doesn't mention that she is the daughter. Every reference I find says that the woman is posing as his unmarried daughter. See http://www.artic.edu/artaccess/AA_Modern/pages/MOD_5.shtml or http://www.arts.ufl.edu/art/rt_room/wood/gothic.html Larsroe 16:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This blog posted a letter by Wood saying it was a daughter: http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/they-are-basically-solid-and-good.html . Is that good enough to change the article? Cancilla (talk) 04:28, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems a reminder to assume good faith and not bite newcomers is in order here.  90.244.156.195, your opinion is most certainly welcome and you need not "find something better to do".  Suggesting otherwise is rude and very close to a personal attack.  Feel free to ask more questions and/or bring other issues you see with the article here anytime. -- WV ● ✉ ✓  22:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me???? The above IP has been reverting this article without comment since November - , , , , , you might read this WP:DTR by the way...Modernist (talk) 22:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: And then read this: ...Modernist (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously your ego was bruised by being templated for something so basic from the Five Pillars.  After all, no matter how long we've been here, reminders in the form of templates do offer a reality check.  None of us are above needing that from time to time.  When looking at the above IP address's contributions, I only saw a short list from today.  Looking at the edit links above, I see nothing so menacing or disruptive to justify your rude comments above.  Don't want to be templated?  Don't violate WP:AGF and WP:BITE.  Regardless of the number of times the IP has edited this article, he still qualifies as a newbie.  You, as a long-term editor, should know better (as I already stated).  -- WV ● ✉ ✓  22:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

text: P.S.: WP:DTR is an essay, not policy.  Hint: it's not policy for a good reason (explained to you above). -- WV ● ✉ ✓  22:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Excuse me??? You must be kidding...All the IPs tagged above are from Manchester and they are - in all probability the same person...Modernist (talk) 22:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Did you read the reference?...Modernist (talk) 22:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference has nothing to do with you not following WP:AGF and WP:BITE by essentially telling a newbie to get lost.  Nothing at all. -- WV ● ✉ ✓  23:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Wood apparently has been caught saying first that it was a husband/wife, and afterwards that it was a father/daughter. I don't want to make such a change to this article as I'm sure it would be reverted, but if somebody who has been around longer would like to look into it, as the painter was once quoted as saying "I finally induced my own maiden sister to pose and had her comb her hair straight down her ears, with a severely plain part in the middle. The next job was to find a man to represent the husband."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.10.164.86 (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daughter 

message: Hi, I just sailed on in, and I usally don't get involved with art-related WP articles, as that's not really my area of interest. However, I noticed that for this rather famous work, there seems to be very little on the artistic significance, and why it's so famous. Is there a reason for this? Was such commentary removed before? I'd be glad to research it myself, but I get the feeling that if it hasn't been elaborated now, there's something I know before such an undertaking. MrVoluntarist 02:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artistic signifcance 

message: I took out all of the parodies except for one representative sample. My reasoning is that the section is a summary of a main article, and so any descriptions of parodies should be in the main article (American Gothic in popular culture). Feel free to revert if anyone objects. Orpheus (talk) 13:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parodies 

message: The article says that the painting has "achieved an iconic status in mainstream culture as one of the modern world's most recognizable images". In the US, this may be true, and the article does offer evidence, but the painting is not particularly famous outside the US. The implication that it is of comparable general fame to the Mona Lisa or the Scream is ridiculous. I suggest that any references to mainstream culture, etc, be made specific to the US. DeanKeaton (talk) 19:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably the best known example of American fine art among the British general public, up there with the Warhol tinned soup and Monroe stuff, but I agree with DeanKenton that it's nowhere near as well known as the Mona Lisa or other famous Old Master paintings. --Ef80 (talk) 18:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  General vs US significance 

message: I deleted the comment, "It is one of the most familiar images in 20th century American art and one of the most parodied artworks within Anglophone popular culture. However, the painting and its connotations are little-known outside the Anglosphere." This material is redundant with material that follows. Moreover, the use of "Anglophone" and "Anglosphere" are unhelpful from a cultural standpoint as this work flowed out of the context and values of Midwestern America rather than England. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackerman (talk • contribs) 04:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anglo" comment 

message: If anyone follows the link in note three they will discover that this wikipedia page is, in many places, copied word for word from that article. I'm not sure what we're supposed to do when we find this degree of plagiarism as it's pretty bad. 99.58.200.186 (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarized 

message: Does anybody know when the Country Corn Flakes commercial was filmed? AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How old is the County Corn Flakes commercial? 

message: Also parodied for Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend, both on the cover (see here) and animated before/during the menu (see here). --82.170.113.123 (talk) 17:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Parody; Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Grant Wood - American Gothic - Google Art Project.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on September 7, 2013. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2013-09-07. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Grant Wood - American Gothic - Google Art Project.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: Doctor Who 3-03-Gridlock (2007), near 00m16s
At the very start of the episode, Ma and Pa are seated in one of the camper-vans.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.63.148 (talk) 13:09, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parody - Doctor Who 

message: There's nothing in the article that really indicates a relation to the protestant work ethic, and the talk page for it seems equally confused as to why the painting is included. Perhaps the article could make the connection more explicit? Or, of course, remove the reference to PWE if none is forthcoming. Systemchalk (talk) 00:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Protestant Work Ethic?

message: the actress  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.207.162 (talk) 19:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The woman looks like Jennifer Aniston 

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message: The paragraph that deals with Sue Taylor's opinion i feel should be removed. I cannot find much about the person who made the claim besides that she is a professor at Portland State University. Does every college professor's opinion merit inclusion into Wikipedia?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:BE60:2B60:0:0:0:3E (talk) 04:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  hi, wrt to your above query, please note that the Lady in question was just recently awarded the 2021 Benjamin F. Shambaugh Award by Iowa State University 1, who  himself was a historian, political scientist, educator, and first Superintendent of the State Historical Society of Iowa. This alone should give weightage to Sue Taylors writings. Besides I recommend you take this discussion about notability of Sue Taylor to the Dispute Resolution Page, maybe the Editors there will help you decide.
Thank you. -- STC1  talk 00:43, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  in addition, Sue Taylor did her BA in Art history from Roosevelt University and her MA and PhD from the University of Chicago. She was A curator of prints and drawings at the Milwaukee Art Museum, An adjunct professor at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and Northwestern University. A corresponding editor from Portland for Art in America & professor emerita of Art history at Portland State University (also Associate Dean) : Source 
If this is not notable enough- I don't know what is. STC1  talk 00:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   for the Sake of all that is good in this world Man, Sue Taylor was nominated for an Iowa State award for her book on Grant Wood. The same Grant Wood who drew this painting, man!* How are you calling her non notable? She literally researched and wrote a book about the painter of this painting and Iowa State recognised her efforts.* She has written articles about him - ( art-in-america )* In 2005, Dr. Taylor's psychological essay "Grant Wood's Family Album" won the Smithsonian’s Patricia and Philip Frost Prize. Source 1 , Source 2 * She has done multiple campus lectures on Grant Wood too.((art-history-lecture-dr-sue-taylor))* Good Lord man, a simple Google search would have cleared up your confusion mate. nomination,  award , ((Davenport Figge art museum)),   ((Visual art | Editorial - Sue Taylor))  STC1  talk 05:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

text:  Hello once again. Just because YOU couldn't find someone on google doesn't make them non-notable. In contrast, I found plenty of articles about her which I shared above. Just because a person doesn't feature on Wikipedia - doesn't make them irrelevant. Wikipedia is not OFFICIAL source of information. It is user generated. Congrats on publishing books, When you get awards from the Smithsonian and from Iowa state history society, or maybe when you get selected Associate Dean of a University, then maybe you too will be considered NOTABLE in your field, Till then do your best and keep publishing noteworthy books. Take care and have fun editing.
Oh and by btw - this one is a link to Portland University website, I shared this in the First reply to you. Kindly check all my links.  (pdx.edu)-- STC1  talk 18:54, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sue Talyor?