Talk:Garifuna

message: Garifuna or Black Caribs are descendance of Mali Sultan Abu-Bakr II expedition who the left the Mali empire around 1312 to find the end of the Atlantic ocean. in 1312 Mansa Musa the richest man ever succeeded Sultan Aba Bakr when he did not return from his expedition. The ship wreck narrative is a lie b/c there would have been some white Spanish blood within the Garifuna genes and there are none. Plus there are no Spanish words in the Garifuna language.
Garifuna are originally from Mali empire. Set foot on Caribbean soil with Abu-Bakr II  descoveries lover than his brother Kankou Moussa, the most richman after king Salomon, whose wealth created crisis in El Cairo cause giving cash gold to hopless and helpess People. Garifuna are not Abu-Bakr II  slave but his family where everyone have his task in empire. I'm really convinced, if garifuna are not there from post columbus slave trade ?? They were précolombian Caribbean inhabitants with king Abubakar, this time only one Subsahara West Africa royal distinguished personality to conquer New Land where peacefully he have signed human and kind treaty of course with indians.garifuna are from ours ??? Mandingo, They idiom seem like, like senegalese wolof idiom. There are also another tribe with idiom called BONI, in Guyana, Who are from Tiassale, a city from AKAN lenguages from the Ivory Coast.i really want to get in touch with you cause interested any black history in Caribbean Land ??? Much to give and hear in return. I'm guide, painter, art sculpture galeries.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.77.132 (talk) 01:33, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  African ancestors 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Garifuna. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100325234539/http://www.martinique.pref.gouv.fr/pages/histoireinstitang.html to http://www.martinique.pref.gouv.fr/pages/histoireinstitang.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101020123003/http://www.tierramerica.info/nota.php?lang=eng&idnews=2873 to http://www.tierramerica.info/nota.php?lang=eng&idnews=2873
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060207003850/http://www.garifuna.org/ to http://www.garifuna.org/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20040605010158/http://www.caribe.hn/cumbrecontinentalafro/index.htm to http://www.caribe.hn/cumbrecontinentalafro/index.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Both articles seem to indicate that the terms are identical in meaning. Garifuna is clearly the most common name according to Google Ngram Viewer. Daask (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I renamed the article to "Black Caribs (St. Vincent)".--Isinbill (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agreed, I have renamed the article to "Garifuna (Saint Vincent)".--Isinbill (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of Black Caribs into Garifuna 

message: *Comment: It seems apparent from some of the cited sources here that the names "Black Caribs" and "Garifuna" both refer to the diaspora group as well as the inhabitants of Saint Vincent, but with a term usage shift over time. Both groups were referred to as "Black Caribs" until relatively recently, and both groups were referred to as "Garifuna" more recently. The current naming pattern does not really make sense, since both names referred to both groups (with "Garifuna" being the modern WP:COMMONNAME for both). This can be fixed in several ways, including the proposed merge, renaming the articles to "Garifuna" and "Garifuna diaspora", renaming the articles to "Garifuna (Saint Vincent)" and "Garifuna (Central America)", etc. — MarkH21talk 15:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I renamed the article to "Black Caribs (St. Vincent)".--Isinbill (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agreed, I have renamed the article to "Garifuna (Saint Vincent)".--Isinbill (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Renewed discussion

message: Our article says that there are 159,653 Garifuna residing in the United States and cites this to the "2005 American Community Survey: Race and Hispanic or Latino. U.S. Census Bureau". Unfortunately, the Census Bureau's website has been redone a few times since this citation was created and the original link doesn't work any more, but I found it on archive.org: . The data on that page doesn't mention "Garifuna" anywhere, nor does the number 159,653 appear in it, nor have I been able to find any data related to the Garifuna at data.census.gov. This isn't surprising since every other source I've read says that there are no reliable estimates for how many Garifuna reside in the U.S. The only decent info I've been able to find is:
Thus I'm inclined to change our "159,653" figure (which as far as I can tell was simply made up) to " 200,000" and cite it to the source above. Does anyone have more specific information that could be used? Kaldari (talk) 20:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not seen any sources with that figure either, so the proposed change seems appropriate. The edit that added the figure to the article in 2013 () does not give any more indication as to where this figure came from either. — MarkH21talk 03:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, something similar was also done at Garifuna Americans, where the 2018 American Community Survey figure for all Honduran-Americans was used for the Garifuna American population. — MarkH21talk 05:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. population 

message: The Garifuna Nation's website displays the Garifuna flag with the black on top.
The government of Belize appears to agree.
Should the flag be inverted?
1.126.106.50 (talk) 20:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I’ll try to take a look. Both variations do appear in different places (example with the black on the bottom). Also you linked the National Garifuna Council, not the Belizean government. — MarkH21talk 23:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upside-down Flag