Talk:First Fleet

message: On the pbs show I just watched they said something about men "ravaging" women who came before
the Lady Juliana and the head of the colony requested more women.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.94.190.53  (talk • contribs) 09:23, 28 November 2005   (UTC+10 hours)
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thread_title:  "ravage" of women before Lady Juliana 

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message: Would we class them as illegal imigrant? Enlil Ninlil 06:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: There are three references to "Gillen" (with page numbers)
but the article lacks a reference section specifying Gillen's book.
can someone provide pls?
Coughinink 09:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; it would be much appreciated if someone could provide this Gillen's full name and which book of his/hers was referred to in this article. Amazon.com gives several possibilities if one searches for "gillen australia", but I have no idea which one it could be. Marialadouce 17:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm guessing it would be, Mollie Gillen. 
The Founders of Australia: A Biographical Dictionary of the First Fleet (1989)
This is the seminal work on the first fleet that led to her honourary doctorate and being awarded the Order of Australia. 
I will edit all references to this. Macr237 (talk) 13:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Done --Wikiain (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  missing reference? 

message: According to the log of the HMS Surply the first fleet arrived at Camp Cove  in Port Jackson on the 23 January 1788. With the fear of turnable deep water a foot party was dispatched that arrived at the tank stream on the 26 January 1788 on that lite a signial fire. The fleet arrived in farm cove on the 27 Febuary and set up a settlement on the east side of the tank stream named Sydney Cove  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.106.126 (talk) 13:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And? What has that got to do with the word European? Macr237 (talk) 13:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added sub-head - editor from IP address may not know how to start new sub-section --Matilda talk 20:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  log of Supply 

message: The article on Port Jackson states: "Eighteen years later, on 21 January 1788, after arriving at Botany Bay" whereas this articles states that: "They arrived at Botany Bay on 26 January 1788."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrFredBloggs (talk • contribs) 06:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Port Jackson

message: There's been some recent good-faith reverting regarding the Fleet's path from Rio, and whether they entered the Pacific via the Cape of Good Hope or Cape Horn.
It was the Cape of Good Hope - from Rio in South America directly across the Atlantic to the Cape of Good Hope in southern Africa and into the Pacific via the Indian Ocean.
This seems a little counter-intuitive when the shortest route would be to sail south from England down the African coastline, without crossing to South America. The reason, as outlined in Arthur Philip's journal of the voyage, was to avoid the calms that frequently delayed ships off the west African coast. Philip also knew he could replenish the ships stores in Rio, and was less assured of a safe harbour on the African coast before Cape Town. 
When the Fleet finally arrived at the Cape of Good Hope they encountered an American ship that had taken longer to sail directly from the Canary islands than they had taken going all the way to Rio and back - proving Philip's argument about Africa's calm coastal winds correct.
I've added a reference for this to the article - hope that clears it up. Euryalus (talk) 11:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rio to Cape of Good Hope 

message: oh ya wanna know about the fist fleet its interesting that author Philip  was the best hes the one who done the rest oh ya oh ya oh ya its the best to learn about him oh ya its the best to see him if u wanna know info, so wanna do Wat i told u i know u would love to. sorry i did not complete the song!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.86.108 (talk) 08:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  the first fleet/song. 

message: The lead section now mixes discussion and statistics, and has the people stats repeated in different forms.  Would somebody with direct access to the stats (for reliability) like to tidy this, probably moving all people stats out of the lead section?  --Wikiain (talk) 01:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidy the lead section? 

message: this tag was placed because the article has grammatical errors and the lead section needs intense copyediting to render it adequate. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:16, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyedit 

message: What's a "kohi marine"? It is not explained herein neither elsewhere in Wikipedia. --Oop (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody, including myself, seems to be able to identify "kohi", I've removed it - "a marine" seems enough anyway. --Wikiain (talk) 13:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kohi marine 

message: I am a regular user of wikipedia. I was very happy when I signed up because you can get more information which is very good for research. 
Hannahgunning1 (talk) 09:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia 

message: The last three revisions (all by Witeboyrapper) need to be undone. They are all Doctor Who references and really, need I say more?
I don't know if I have enough experience to roll back three changes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KCastellino (talk • contribs) 10:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. I've fixed the problem. Thanks for letting us know. HiLo48 (talk) 10:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mucking around 

message: The supply ships are being tabulated with durations of voyage several days longer than the other ships even though they are tabulated as arriving on the same day. Are these as recorded in a primary source? Or are they just wrong?
Dmoorenh (talk) 01:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: They were just wrong. have fixed them to match the actual dates sailed and arrived. Euryalus (talk) 05:54, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There's been some weird vandalism on that part of the article from time to time. Thanks for fixing the numbers. HiLo48 (talk) 06:01, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There's quite a lot of errors in this article. I've just fixed a few others, like the mysterious "prefab governor's house" and the idea the Fleet sailed bringing "pre-cut wood." The dates might have been an error in adding the six days sail from Botany Bay to port Jackson, or they could have been vandalism. Either way, more to be done here. :) Euryalus (talk) 06:10, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't you think they would have brought pre-cut wood? Of course they would have, they'd need pre-cut wood for refitting the ships. You'd be in big trouble back then if you didn't sail with any of it. Sir Langan (talk) 04:44, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The context is the material brought to found the colony rather than shipboard supplies. These would also have included quantities of ammunition, sailcloth, pitch and a host of other items, but I suggest the quantities were trivial compared to the actual colonial stores and there would be little justification for including them in the list of equipment. Euryalus (talk) 07:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Btw, being the first to admit I was wrong: I have found a reliable source for of the unreferenced and mysterious prefab governor's house, in a letter from one of Sirius crew. Apparently a wooden frame was brought out from England, to serve as a frame for a temporary Government House while stone was prepared for a permanent one. I've put the mention back in with a reference to Southwell's letter home. I haven't restored the mention of the Fleet bringing out a supply of wood or bricks - Cook and Banks had made clear the area was forested and timber was one of the principal commercial motivations for the colony, along with flax, so I remain unconvinced they brought vast stores of timber with them for colonial use. The absence of a supply of bricks is also well documented, mostly in the context of none of the convicts being expert in making them and that this inability condemned almost everyone to thatched huts or tents for the first couple of years. But on the prefab govt house, mea culpa and I've restored the mention. :) Euryalus (talk) 04:07, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durations - Why the difference 

message: I've just created an article for the First Fleet Re-enactment Voyage which occurred for the Australian Bicentenary. It probably rates a mention in this article (maybe in the "Legacy" section), but I will leave it up to more involved editors as to what and how much is added. -- saberwyn 04:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-enactment voyage 

message: The tables listing the vessels all have a column giving the date of departure from Portsmouth. As the date is the same for all, there is no reason devote a column in each of two tables to this info. I would remove the column myself if I knew more about the formatting of tables, but I don't. Also, there is a long quotation that names the vessels, their tons burthen, the number of convicts, crew, marines, etc. Can't we just incorporate any material that isn't already in the article somewhere else into a table and be done with it? Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 22:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundancy

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message: Location of the First Fleet Bicentential Monument is Brighton-Le-Sands,NSW not Sans Souci. see https://sydney-city.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/brighton-le-sands-first-fleet.html Ausg123 (talk) 08:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: I'm sure the date is correct but where did the date come from? Needs a reference. jayoval (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of departure reference?

message: Reference 59 does not exist 106.69.10.145 (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . Added internet archive link –small jars tc 15:09, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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