Talk:Aberfan disaster

message: I'm always a bit cautious about changing the ending of an FA. I know the effort that goes into getting the structure right. But I think the 2022 listing on the Cadw/ICOMOS Register of Parks and Gardens of Special Historic Interest in Wales is significant. And, personally, I think the reason for its listing, as a monument "of great national importance and meaning" makes for a rather poignant conclusion. Others may disagree, and I'm absolutely fine with its being moved elsewhere, but I do think it warrants a mention. KJP1 (talk) 07:39, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , it certainly needs to be referred to, and I think I agree it works well as the final point. I've tweaked the ref to be consistent with the others, but it looks a good addition. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:00, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cadw/Icomos listing 

message: I see that Howell Williams died at the end of last month, . I know that two of the four surviving teachers, Hettie Williams (nee Taylor), and Rennie Williams, have died previously. Does anyone know if the last of the four, Mair Morgan, is still alive? KJP1 (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone of that name and roughly the correct age died in 2009, though of course can't be certain that's her. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  - Thanks very much. I’ll do a bit more digging. They’re not uncommon Welsh names, as is Williams, held by three of the teachers, none of whom I believe were related. If Howell Williams was the last of the surviving teachers to die, it may warrant a note. Can discuss with User:SchroCat. KJP1 (talk) 13:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, definitely not a unique name - another Mair Morgan died in 2019, although that one was slightly older than this Mair Morgan should have been. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would certainly be worth a mention. A search of a news database doesn't show any articles mentioning her death, which I would have thought there would have been. The pictures of them at the inquiry shows all four were fairly young at the time (she was the same age as Howell Williams, so would be around 82 now), so it is entirely possible she's still alive. As a slight side note,  told me he used to work with someone who was shoved out the window by Williams on that day, thus saving his life. There are a few people walking around today who have a lot to thank him for. - SchroCat (talk) 13:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed so. Before joining the Crown Estate, of which I was in those far-off days the librarian, my colleague had served in the Royal Navy and seen the world. He left one in no doubt about the debt he and fellow survivors owed to his teacher. Tim riley talk 13:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I’d agree SchroCat - the fact that the deaths of the other two women, and of Howell Williams, have been covered, might suggest that she is indeed still alive. KJP1 (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teachers 

message: The Queen did not visit on the 29th of October:
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Because of the vast quantity and consistency of the spoil, it was a week before all the bodies were recovered; the last victim was found on 28 October. The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh visited Aberfan on 29 October to pay their respects to those who had died. 208.38.231.66 (talk) 13:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lots of sources which say 29 October. Do you have a reliable source that says otherwise? - SchroCat (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in this paragraph