Talk:Windows Home Server

message: There seems to be a fair amount of interest in this OS due to it being recently revealed to the public.  I was kind of disappointed that the page had not had more in depth information as now is when a lot a people are apt to go looking for basic info.  My technical knowledge is rather limited, especially in regards to server software, so I don't feel confident adding much to the page, but I wanted to encourage others.  I've noticed a fair about of apparent misconceptions in the product and a muddy understanding of what it can and cannot do.  In particular in regards to whether it can be used by systmes other than Windows, like OSX or Linux.  I saw one comment that suggest this will be possible.  Also, I saw a video on MSDN's Channel 9 that was very informative that someone updating the page might want to check out.  There was one part, if I understood it correctly, that said if someone knew what they were doing (ie. not a novice) they could use remote desktop to access much richer functionality than the basic control panel interface provides.  It seems like much (if not most) of Windows Server 2003 can be accessed.  Someone who knows this OS might be able to talk about what this could mean as far as an enthusiast using Windows Home Server as opposed to the novice user.  I hope someone can use this information to flesh out the article. --72.24.86.95 09:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think their should be a section mentioning open source alternatives to WHS. WHS looks good, but people need to be informed that their are FOSS alternatives. FreeNAS and Openfiler in particular spring to mind. Personally I like FreeNAS because it has upnp support which allows you to stream media to an xbox360 without relying on Windows Home Connect.
--Jmantra 13:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No for see also section. Links may be inlined, though. But I don't think the apps you specify are competitors to WHS. WHS is not a NAS server or UPnP media server (btw, Windows Media Connect has been deprecated in favor of Home Media Ecosystem (HME). Vista, Zune Media Player software, Zune music player and WMP11 includes HME servers; WMP11 for Vista and X360 includes clients). While they are a part of its feature list, WHS can act as host (application server) for applications written using the WHS API as well. --soum talk 14:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I didnt say they should not mentioned, I said they should not be mentioned as being competitor to WHS. It can be mentioned as in "WHS includes shared storage akin to NAS servers like <insert the most common NAS server> here". Better still just stop at NAS (so that we dont take sides singling out a single product). NAS solutions are definitely linked from that page, arent they? --soum talk 15:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

text: i agree with Soumyasch. In addition, the other Microsoft OS pages don't have a list of competitors so it probably wouldn't be a good idea to break with that tradition. 128.54.42.248 18:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FOSS alternatives/"See Also" section 

message: Is it true that it can be connected from both the web browser and its own console program (Windows Home Console)?? Please clarify this --Jutiphan 23:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interface 

message: Is it going to be possible to install your own software (e.g. webservices) on this server, or will it be locked down like the 360?  The 360 security rocks.  It's the ONLY console that's never been hacked, and EVERYONE has tried.  I might sleep better knowing it has hardware security like the 360.  ...But I'll probably complain if they lock it.  ....Then again, I think I'll complain either way.  Yeah, I'm an impossible customer.   So what's the verdict? Brien86 07:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It could (at least the beta can, during the install it says it's Win2003 SBS, not Web Edition), but that's not actually the point of the darned thing. --Blowdart 06:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can WHS be used to run your own apps? 

message: The Windows Home Server team blog contains more details on the product that someone may want to incorporate here.http://blogs.technet.com/homeserver/
cek 03:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Server team blog contains more information 

message: I think that it would be good to have a comparison between the standard Windows Server (2003 or "Longhorn") and Windows Home Server so we know what Windows Home Server can and can't do. 220.237.189.10 02:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not so sure; yes it's running under 2003, and both share files and printers; but that's about it. Also there's already talk in the beta feedback forums of what services will be removed, so right now it's all up in the air. --Blowdart 11:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows Server Comparison 

message: I have a bunch of screenshots on my blog, which if anyone things will be useful I can upload here (if someone will guide me through how to do it and mark them as GPLed) --Blowdart 07:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshots 

message: is now live. 
I'd update the page myself, but the NPV rules prevent me from making such a change myself. cek 02:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official website on microsoft.com 

message: It looks like Windows Home Server also has a own graphical user interface in addition to the one that can be accessed on a web browser, just like Windows Server 2003 has. Images of this can be found on Paul Thurrott's WinSuperSite.  Off! 16:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Off topic) Am I alone in thinking the web interface for shared folders looks awfully lot like Windows Live Folders? --soum talk 16:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  User Interface 

message: Someone noted they cant find a citation for the 10 PC limit. I did a Google and Live search and, yep, sure enough, we have never said publically anywhere that there's a 10 PC limit. cek 03:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  10 PC's 

message: This article needs information such as: the build number and beta number or release candidate number of the latest preview release version of Windows Home Server. 76.183.213.20 22:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (I was formally known as IP address: “76.183.213.20”) Hello, anyone there?  Tcrow777  talk  20:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information 

message: Does WHS set up it's own domain? Is it compatable with existing domains? 203.33.3.12 01:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't include a domain controller. --soum talk 04:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Nor will it fit into a domain network. It's for home, there's no domain support. --Blowdart 22:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1434320&SiteID=50 for some discussion of this topic. — JBazuzi (talk • contribs) 16:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Domain or Workgroup? 

message: "Issues" is an over-used and increasingly abused word. I recommend changing "issues" to "problems". Unfree (talk) 06:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues vs. Problems

message: Blowdart - please leave my edit alone. 
This article "Data files that contain NTFS alternate data streams can be corrupted on a Windows Home Server-based computer" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943393 relates directly to the file corruption issues.  Would you **please** read the article.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943393 "Data files that contain NTFS alternate data streams can be corrupted on a Windows Home Server-based computer"
This in turn leads to the download about signing streams. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941914/ "An update for Windows Home Server lets you obtain a trusted certificate for your Windows Home Server computer during remote access configuration of your personalized domain"
I've got home server.  This worked.  Do you?  Even if you follow the cited link for the issue eariler on in the article (ref 17), a sentence before the anti-ms vibe "even though" (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/943393/en-us) it actually takes you to 941914, the one you keep reverting!
ED: Okay, I'm sorry, looking up I see you have home server.  Am I really wrong then?  Is my home server just fluking *not* corrupting stuff right now?
Paulecoyote (talk)
: The knowledge base article on the SSL certificate is for remote access; originally the devices had self signed SSL certificates. Just after launch MS changed that so it had an (IE) trusted root, and secondary certificates, doing away with any SSL warnings. The corruption KB article is wrong, it is not a resolution; I will see what I can do about getting it changed. --Blowdart | talk 15:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're not the only one that's confused; I've reported it to MS and we'll see if the KB article gets updated. --Blowdart | talk 10:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knowledge base article solving issues 

message: In the "Native Backup" section, Contributions/81.23.56.25 added this text:
Update -as of 22/05/08 Microsoft has informed beta testers that this feature will not be present, and may not be released with the Power Pack 1 RTM.
I reverted this edit because it's an uncited claim.  I haven't seen any suggestions, even in blogs, that the Server Backup feature won't be in Power Pack 1.  My revert was reverted, without explinatation; I have reverted that revert.
Also, Wikipedia is not a news site; using "Update" style writing is not encyclopedic.  Instead of adding a sentence that contradicts the previous one, better to modify the existing text to be correct.
Additionally, I don't think the date format and use of "RTM" match WP:MOS, but I'm no expert there.
Furthermore, I believe that all Power Pack 1 Beta testers are bound by an NDA.  If Microsoft *has* told beta testers something interesting about PP1, and that beta teter shares that information publically, that may be a violation of the NDA.
Finally, 81.23.56.25 also reverted a good edit that fixed a typo ("add address"); I have reverted that bad revert, as well.
I will not engage in a revert war on this topic. I will not revert again.  I hope that another wikipedian will help resolve the situation.
— JBazuzi (talk • contribs) 15:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No revert war about Power Pack 1, please 

message: I'm glad that WHS isn't the only option for a home server, but is the WHS page really the right place to describe them?  I mean, they don't exist solely to be alteratives to WHS, right?  
What I've often seen here on wikipedia is that various alternative to something are all in the same category.  I find that very helpful when I'm looking for alternatives to a given product.
— JBazuzi (talk • contribs) 22:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That section was added yesterday; I've removed it.  The Home server article is the appropriate place to look for a list of like software and products.  A category will need to be created someday, but it doesn't seem like there's really anything out there just yet that is in the same class as WHS...  -/- Warren 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Plus without a comparison table somewhere how can you tell if it's a true alternative? What features are a must have to make it a true alternative etc.? I agree removing it was best. --Blowdart | talk 07:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Solutions? 

message: I'm going to start updating sections of this article which have been address by PP1-RC1. (Symo85 (talk) 04:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't updated the "No Native Backup" section, as I was a little confused by what was already there...  I thought the situation (before PP1-RC1) was redundant backups (keeping a copy of the data on two physcially different HDDs) for information backed up from a PC was available, but not for information only stored on the server (and now with PP1-RC1 that limitation has been fixed).  But a complete backup of the server was not possible (and still isn't). (Symo85 (talk) 05:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure wikipedia should be "recommending" pre-release software as a solution to file corruption problems; whilst it's unlikely RC1 will change much before release; it's not supported; nor is it an official solution as it's not released code. I've reworded the section. --Blowdart | talk 06:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Pack 1, RC1 

message: Has anyone else seen this weird marketing thing at http://www.stayathomeserver.com/?  I tried looking up info about it on Wikipedia, but nothing will show up.  I want to write something about it in Wikipedia, how would this be correctly done? Forgive me for formating errors, I am new at this. --James73686 (talk) 05:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I have that book :) However it's a marketing web site; unless it wins some awards I doubt it's suitable for inclusion. --Blowdart | talk 13:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stay at home server" 

message: "The system also acts as an RDP gateway, allowing remote control over the internet of supported internal machines on the home network."
The explanation on how this should work is missing?
Its like Back to My Mac, but without needing to subscribe to the pay service of mobileMe
:Windows Home Server uses Port 4125 from the external network (Remote Web Workplace (RWW)) and it uses Port 3389 on the internal network for connecting to clients http://mswhs.com/2007/06/28/what-ports-do-i-forward-in-my-router-for-whs/ --smadge1 (talk) 13:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows home server as RDP gateway 

message: I came to know about WHS through an unwanted icon in my network places folder and systray that said find Upnp devices.
and it placed an unknown named location on the same folder. which disappeared after a while as i was searching for the clue.
any idea? 119.73.112.6 (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cable network system can get hacked by WHS user on domain? 

message: With the number of in-line citations above 30 from a diverse list of publications, can the message box at the top be removed at this time?  Mikebar (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove References Needed 

message: Can someone please replace the lame screenshot of the administrators desktop with something better? Like a shot of the home server console?
cek 21:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone replaced the WHS Console screenshot with a terrible desktop screenshot again. Could it please be reverted? It's silly. JensRex (talk) 19:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better Screen Shot? 

message: I've been using a Acer Aspire WHS box as a development tool for a lot of my work with .NET programming and I thought that it might be helpful to share a few specific hacks somewhere in this article or perhaps in a separate leaf article. Here are some of the ones I wanted to share as references for folks interested in the extensibility and capabilities of Windows Home Server:
*Using Windows Home Server as a Print Server
*Installing DotNetNuke on Windows Home Server
*Using WHS as an Email Server
*How to Install uTorrent on Windows Home Server
What do you think? Does this belong on this article (maybe in a new extensibility section?) In it's own article? Not at all?
--Omgcapitalism (talk) 05:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My opinion: those topics are interesting, but not appropriate for Wikipedia. They're not hard to find with a search engine.  Maybe a good middle-ground would be something along the lines of "WHS machines can also be used like any other windows server, for example as a print server, email server, or torrent client." I also added torrent to the Addin list, since there is an addin for it. — JBazuzi (talk • contribs) 06:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I figured. Thanks for your input! Omgcapitalism (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of specific extensions and hacks for WHS? 

message: The article correctly notes that the new version is out this month.  The rest of the article describes WHS V1.  The article should probably be updated to include both or rename this one and a new article for the latest version.  Mikebar (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHS 2011 

message: I propose that the Windows Home Server 2011 article get merged into this Windows Home Server article, since they describe the same product, and there are so few new additions in the 2011 version, so why have two articles for the same thing? 164.4.17.33 (talk) 14:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

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