Talk:Stesichorus

message: I've ordered a copy of The Cambridge History of Classical Literature - Early Greek Poetry and I am about to order all the Loeb volumes on Greek lyrical poetry as well. I now have to justify the cost of these books, which are totally useless for my continued existence in any practical sense, so I will probably start by giving this article a facelift. I already have David Campbell's Greek Lyric Poetry and I'll use that too. Or I might recover my sanity and do something better with my time. Amphitryoniades (talk) 03:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edit 

message: I am going to be mad anyhow and do some work on this article. I've attached a picture from the Tabula Iliaca - inscription in Greek attributes scenes to Stesichorus, evidently inspired by his 'Sack of Troy', though scholars argue about the authenticity of the claim. The Greek inscription is hard to see but it's on the lower left, if you look hard enough . Amphitryoniades (talk) 07:43, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabula Iliaca 

message: I have now started a new draft. Some material, which I have removed from the introduction, will be reinstated in other sections - eg the issue of his name (Choirmaster) should be discussed when considering whether or not his poetry was actually performed by a chorus. It might have been like 'Wordsworth', a good name for a poet but not really descriptive of his literary merits. 
I copied the Loeb fragment about Geryon's birthplace, including the gap and the line divisions, which doesn't look quite right but I am assuming it represents the metrical arrangement deduced from fragments. The same fragment is printed in the Cambridge History of Classical Literature, but without the gap or the line divisions. I prefer the look of this latter version and I might restructure the quote accordingly - unless somebody knows better.
I have provided the fragment with an 1849 translation, which is the best I could find - its charmingly anachronistic 19th Century style is in character, I think, since Stesichorus himself wrote in an anachronistic style, and it also captures some of the silkiness of the word-play. Amphitryoniades (talk) 10:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drafting 

message: I have (temporarily?) deleted the following section (italics mine). The section has more to do with Herodotus than Stesichorus and, either way, it's a fanciful account that doesn't deserve the prominence given it here. I will briefly mention the account of Stesichorus as son of Hesiod in the new edit. I'll recover the Latimore reference at that time.:
 
Possible chronologic disputes aside, there is a note in the Harvard University Press' Loeb Classical Library's Introduction to Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica (pp. xvi) concerning the story of the death of Hesiod, in which briefly it is told that after Hesiod won a tripod for the contest in song at Chalcis, he "went to Delphi and there was warned that the 'issue of death should overtake him in the fair grove of Nemean Zeus'". Avoiding therefore Nemea on the Isthmus of Corinth, to which he supposed the oracle to refer, Hesiod retired to Oenoe in Locris where he was entertained by Amphiphanes and Ganyctor, sons of a certain Phegeus." This place also being sacred to Nemean Zeus, the poet suspected of seducing their sister was murdered. The Note reads: "She is said to have given birth to the lyrist Stesichorus." Not wishing to late-date Hesiod, there could still be descendant substance to the note. Or "he is "The Son of Hesiod" because he drew heavily on the Hesiodic poems particularly "The Catalogue".(ref Richard Lattimore translation, "Hesiod" Intro. pp. 5, The University of Michigan Press, 1959) According to the Suda he lived from the 37th Olympiad to the 56th and had two brothers: Mamertinus and Helianax.J.M. Edmonds, Lyra Graeca II pp.23 (Loeb Classical Library) Harvard University Press, 1958
Amphitryoniades (talk) 07:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted section 

message: I've copied the Loeb version of the Suda's Life of Stesichorus in full. The Suda constantly features in biographies as a reference and I think the reader should be given at least one full copy of a Suda entry. I intend supplementing this with notes under various subheadings such as 'Genealogy', 'Chronology', 'Work' etc. Amphitryoniades (talk) 08:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suda