Talk:Ronald Reagan/Archive 2

message: On what was called The Battle of the Couch by Kelley, she described a date rape-like situation involving then 19 year old Selene Walters and Reagan. Further, in the April 29, 1991, issue of People Magazine, Selene Walters said that 42 year old Ronald Reagan raped her in 1952, confirming the basic version of the episode in Kelly's unauthorized biography of Nancy Reagan: 
:" … Kelley's account of his late-night visit is essentially accurate, although he never forced his way into her apartment. I opened the door. Then it was the battle of the couch. I was fighting him. I didn't want him to make love to me. He's a very big man, and he just had his way. Date rape? No, God, no, that's Kelley's phrase. I didn't have a chance to have a date with him. … "
In their editor at large Jack Shafer's March 5, 1999 Slate article, Gipper the Ripper: - "… Ronald Reagan successfully stonewalled the Walters' story when the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times picked it up briefly in April 1991. And remember, this was three and a half years before his Alzheimer's disease diagnosis. The weekend the book was released, a reporter asked Reagan for a comment about it as he entered church. 
:"I don't think a church would be the proper place to use the word I would have to use in discussing that," he said. 
Not exactly a denial." Did the media drop the ball because of a juicer tidbit that month? Was Reagan still Teflon™ even then? Why is Amazon Book's Internet Movie Database one of the few places listing the statements of Ms. Walters.
I'm game if it can be improved - but it will be going back in AS IS  - as it is in itself information that people need to have. And again people can go to Newspaper morgues and get the 1991 issue of People. No one disputes Kelley is catty in tone; However, third parties have fact checked her stories, and the events have been verified. - Sparky 17:07, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of rape 

message: From Kevin Jeys article October 29, 1998 Elective Affinities, Part II:<BR>
… “The sexual shenanigans of Ronald and Nancy Reagan were never a secret. Both were most relentlessly promiscuous while in Hollywood, locus of the nation’s largest, longest, strongest and most obsessively tended gossip grapevine. Many a starlet seeking studio entree via the well-traveled smile-and-spread circuit hopefully ungirdled her loins and passed under Reagan, while Nancy’s name was routinely circulated among executives in search of a fast and practiced backseat blowjob. Power to the mavens of the entertainment press means possessing such tantalizing tidbits; once the Reagans began their improbable electoral ascent, the information easily passed through the flimsy scrim separating the Hollywood desk from those patrolling the political beat. Campaign operatives and reporters shamelessly swap gossip with nearly every breath, and thus the Reagans’ sexual adventuring eventually became such common knowledge that even I, who have always occupied only the very outer arm of the political-gossip spiral, knew of Nancy’s legendary mouthwork long before Robin Leach coyly alluded to it during Reagan’s first term, and had heard as well of the 57-year-old Reagan’s creaky coupling with an 18-year-old campaign worker. Though until Kitty Kelley I’d never heard the tale of how Reagan blithely bounced the bedsprings with lover Christine Larson while wife Nancy struggled to give birth to daughter Patti, I was one of probably millions of Americans cognizant of the open joke of Nancy’s cuckolding of Ronnie with longtime lover Frank Sinatra in the residence quarters of the White House, and anyone in the nation who paid attention to the numbers — and could count even to nine—realized Nancy was four months pregnant when she pledged to Ron "I do." …”
If you behave I'll post the JFK naughty bits on your user talk page as Jeys is nonpartisan ...  - Sparky 06:51, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: How dare you assuse me of having a sock puppet. You have as much proof as you usually do. I Have one handle here. I also am not the one with a fixation of smutty stories and gossip. You are like those old ladies at the hair salon, who repeat stories they don't know are true, but secretly wish they were. Leaving your trash on my talk page for something someone else did is rude, and I think I should be expecting an apology for the accusation if you are an honorable person. Dominick 16:13, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I denied this, and I deny it again. I did not remove any of those. You are still obsessed with this. Yes typos are nasty things. You will not apologize because of the type of person you are. The IP for the person editing this out is Pittsburg, not Florida. Even if they use a proxy out of state, there isn't anything linking me to that. Only you accuse me of editing those out, no responsible person would. Look how many times I reverted vandalism. Dominick 14:39, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Kevin Jeys' Article as pertains to Ronnie and Nancy 

message: Can we move onto the way Jaqueline Parks was treated? And research if we can link him to the Mafia directly? - Sparky 02:52, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can everyone live with the way the Rape Charge is handled now?