Talk:Polish chicken

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message: The intro section says that these chickens don't go broody, but then the "Additional" section says they are broody from Feb. to July. Which is it? (And can the "Additional" section be renamed or merged into some other section? It's not a descriptive subject heading.) Aardnavark (talk) 12:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Polish are generally not broody. I'll fix it. Steven Walling 20:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! Aardnavark (talk) 23:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broody or not? 

message: What does 'act out' mean? This term is not understood by British/international English speakers. Is it American slang? If so it is inappropriate for an article of global interest.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkRibbands (talk • contribs) 09:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of regional slang 

message: sorry for citing German text, but Dürigen is one of the fathers of German poultry and a trusted author ;) 
in his most important work on poultry, "Geflügelzucht" (HT Digital Library; 1886/1906), he names the "White-crested Polish", the "Sultans" and a breed he calls "Pawlowa", as well as a second russian breed, the "Polski". 
Dürigen, p. 209
http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924003077827;view=1up;seq=243
:: 54. Holländer Weißhauben. (Abb. 106.) Diese seit 1869 "Holländer" – [...] Engl.: White-crested Polish [...] – genannten Hühner wurden früher, etwa von 1825 an, bei uns als Polands oder Polen 1) bezeichnet. 
::Die Geschichte dieses in Holland, wo es der Tiermaler I/J. Monckorst[(?)] 1657 zuerst bildlich darstellte und von wo es gegen Ende des 18. Jahrhunderts nach England kam, zur Rasse gemachten und gefestigten schönen Huhnes belehrt uns, daß die H. in Deutschland jedenfalls bereits seit Jahrhunderten bekannt sind. Bechstein, ein Thüringer, macht 1797 die Bemerkung bei dem schwarzen, weißbuschigen Huhn: "Dies ist in Thüringen sehr gemein." Vor rund 100 Jahren wurden die als "Polnische" oder "Podolische Hühner" auf der königlichen Pfaueninsel zu Potsdam gehalten, wohin die als Geschenk des russischen Zaren an König Friedrich Wilhelm III. v. Pr. gelangt waren. Bis vor etwa 30 Jahren mit großer Sorgfalt gezüchtet, haben die seitdem an Verbreitung verloren; immerhin sind sie von allen Haubenhühnern noch am beliebtesten. [...]
::1) Die im eigentlichen Rußland gleichfalls als Polski bezeichneten russischen Weißhauben, welche P. Pallas bereits auf seiner Reise 1768 bis 1773 in Südrussland antraf, fand ich wie schon vorher im Landwirtsch. Museum zu St. Petersburg (ein Paar schwarze, drei Stück blaue) und dann noch anderwärts; sie unterschieden sich von unseren "Holländern" nur durch gelbliche Füße, etwas geringe Größe und reichliche schwarze bzw. blaue Stirnschnippe in der Haube. In Japan gibt es ein von unseren Holländer W. nur durch Halbhaube uns starken Hörnerkamm unterschiedenes Huhn; es wurde einmal, im Mai 1885, zu uns gebracht.
in short ;) 
* the Holländer Weißhauben. (de) = White-crested Polish (en) 
** since 1869 named "Holländer" in Germany
** from 1825 to 1869 named "Polands" or "Polen" in Germany
** befor that ??? 
* pictured by a Dutch painter in 1657
* Bechstein (Thuringian) wrote about black white-crested chicken in 1797 
* "Polnische" oder "Podolische Hühner"/ "Polish" or "Podolish chicken" were a gift from the russian tsar to king Friedrich Wilhelm III. of Prussia.
* in Russia, itself during Dürigens time, there was a breed, that was named "Polski" as well. 
** These russian white-crested chicken where described by Peter Simon Pallas during his journey in Southrussia from 1768 to 1773 (book: Journey through various provinces of the Russian Empire)
** was found by Durigen in the agricultural museum in St. Petersburg (one pair of black chicken and 3 blue chicken) as well as somewhere else. 
** where different from the "white crested polish" by yellowish feet, a black or blue "Stirnschnippe" within the crest (spot?) and they were smaller. 
* in Japan is another breed, that was brought to Germany May, 1885
on page 212 he describes the "Türken" or "Sultans" as crested chicken, that mostly refers to the original old crested chicken, indigenous in Russia since centuries. 
::56. Türken. (Abb. 108) Dieses Haubenhuhn mit Federfüßen und Bart [...] erinnert von allen Haubenhühnern am meisten an die mutmaßliche Stammform, d. h. das in Russland seit Jahrhunderten heimische federfüßige Barthaubenhuhn. (S. 214). [...]
"Türken" und als die englische, bei uns ebenfalls viel angewendete Benennung: "Sultans", da man [...]
p. 214 may refer to the indigenous russian breed itself, or next ancestors
::57. Pawlowa (Russen). (Abb. 110.) [...] Stammhuhn der Haubenhuhnrassen [...]" 
(the original crested chicken)
All breeds are pictured as well. --PigeonIP (talk) 15:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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