Talk:London Stone

message: As of December 5th 2007 a decision has not yet been made about the fate of the London Stone. The Museum of London advises that they have not yet been asked to provide a home for the relocation or temporary location of the artefact. There has been planning approval for the demolition of 111 Canon Street (the building where the stone resides). The planning officer responsible who can answer questions on this is Michael Blamires in the Planning Department of the City of London Corporation. James Frankcom (talk) 12:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're kidding, right? Brutus is total myth, and the idea that he could have traveled to England is more myth piled on top. 
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Does anyone know what kind of stone it is? :D Abergabe (talk) 07:56, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Oolitic limestone - Clipsham (Lincolnshire) or Bath - both stones first brought to London for constructional use in the Roman period - but also used (or reused) in Saxon and medieval times. For a recent summary of the history of London Stone and the development of 'mystical' beleifs about it see <http://www.vintryanddowgate.org.uk/docs/London%20Stone%20note.pdf> 81.151.75.160 (talk) 17:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Info and queries

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I've been interested in London Stone for a long time. When I first saw the Wikipedia article, back in about 2007, it was very weak and inaccurate. It has improved immensely since then, thanks to the hard work of many contributors. I've added to it myself recently. However, I think it's now reached the stage of deserving a full rewrite and reorganisation - the existing section headings and their content have got a bit incoherent, and some of the writing could be tightened up.
I've drafted a new version, but I'm unsure how one sets about getting a consensus before launching it live. (Be bold (but not too bold?)). So today (2 April 2013) I've put a copy of the draft up on my own talk page (User talk:John O'London). I'd be most grateful if you could look at it there.
I've reorganised the sections and their content, to separate off the verifiable history (11th century and later) from the speculations about the Stone's date and original purpose and the mythology that's grown up about it. Among other things, I've deleted the para on Walter George Bell's book - it adds nothing to what is better sourced elsewhere; I've summarised the Spectaclemakers episode - it's a one-off event, not significant. 
Please feel free to comment either on my talk page (User talk:John O'London) or here. 
I'd welcome comments on both the content and the format - I'm still experimenting with Wiki markup, and may have deleted something vital from the original article! The links seem to work (from my sandbox) and I've added a lot more references and citations. Have I missed any?
Thanks for your interest. And apologies if this plea for advice somehow breaches Wiki etiquette! But if there is a consensus (or at least no violent objection) I'll eventually copy and paste the draft onto the main London Stone page to replace the existing version and let it take its chances thereafter. -- John O'London (talk) 09:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Rewrite is now live.John O'London (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed rewrite of London Stone article 

message: Thanks for you work on the intro, Le Deluge. Following comments to justify my changes:
The London Stone – never, never 'the'!
Clipsham – since you've introduced Hayward’s suggestion of Bath in the main text, better not to be specific in the lead, I think.
venerated for many centuries – unsubstantiated claim by modern authors from Gomme and Spence onwards!
Roman origin or older – well, it can’t be older if it's Clipsham or Bath – both first used in London by Romans.
recorded history since 16th century – even if you don’t accept Eadwaker as necessarily referring to 'our' stone, there are sufficient refs from 12th century on (not all in Clark) to suggest continuity – ie there was a "London Stone", it was indeed a stone (not a 'stone building'), it was a landmark, it stood in Candlewick St, and was close to the Fitz Ailwin house.
10th century claims – these claims seem to be a misinterpretation of Stow. They couldn't have bound the list into the book until after (perhaps long after) they received it from the king; on the other hand the list itself could have been old when they bound it into the book – so one can't use the date of the Gospel Book or the gift of it to date the included document. (The Gospel Book given to Canterbury by Aethelstan must be Cotton MS Tiberius A II; it's late 9th century, given to Aethelstan himself by Otto I of Germany - the rebinding history after Stow's time is complex.) 
Thanks again for your interest; please continue the good work if you feel so inclined! - John O'London (talk) 11:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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