Talk:Recreation

message: I think this says a lot on how wikipedia answers ones questions. 
I was bored the other day, and I wanted to have some fun, but I wasn't sure of what to do. So I searched wikipedia on the word "fun".
Then I got redirected to "recreation" which had much to do with sports and such. I read some of it, but then I clicked "See also: Nude recreation" which in small steps took me to this picture of naked yoga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Naked_yoga.jpg
I'm trying that out right now, and "Fun" for me might just happen to be naked yoga.
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It's in the word's etymology.  What are we re-creating when we recreate?
-69.1.18.14 22:31, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A good question, actually. From what I know, it's meant as 'renewal'. Wisco 20:39, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

text: In Muslim lands (except Turkey IIRC), Friday is the weekend. In Israel, the weekend is Friday (after noon) and Saturday. Basically, the concept weekend stems from the weekly rest and not the other way around... And calling it a Sabbath is biasing the coverage towards a specific tradition. elpincha 00:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: How Wikipedia works

message: I'm co-opting the redirect "Fun", but I'm quite happy to have it moved to Fun (magazine) as long as a notice is added here =) Adam Cuerden talk 16:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fun

message: I noticed the caption for the girl on the tire swing spelled it "tyre" (I believe that is the British way).  Is there a rule for Wikipedia English about British vs. American spellings?  I'm not favoring one way or the other, I just wondered, since some people might be confused. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.41.28.140 (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The rule is that if the article is about a UK topic, use UK spelling; if a U.S. topic, use U.S. spelling.  If neither, whoever gets there first wins!  -- Ssilvers 05:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Check the etymology of the word and use the more historically sound spelling. That is the foundation for current international standard spellings, not popularity. Why was the u added to colour from the original Latin color? Probably to preserve the accent on the second syllable. But no one in the UK pronounces it that way. So, color. Heuristically, it's better to preserve spelling than pronunciation, because it more often preserves the meaning and history of the word, since pronunciation shifts (see vowel shift). In the same way, the original spelling was tyre, so use tyre, unless the article specifically depends on the US popularity of the spelling tire. UK spellings tend to preserve Germanic words. US spellings tend to preserve Latin words. [] Erudecorp 00:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: British vs. American Spelling

message: "An example of fun could be the fact that most people viewing this article are having fun. Because it is amusing that this article even exists"
Someone might want to delete it. But honestly I think this is an ok thing to put in. So if it is deleted, I will just put it back and try to find the one who deleted it. Unless they have a good reason for it not to exist.
:I deleted it. This is an article on recreation, not an article about the article on recreation. Casey Abell 19:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then delete all the other examples. This isn't the article on dancing, eating and drinking, partying, hunting and fishing, hobbies or computer games. Either let the example stay, or delete those too. Using the article itself as an example is fun, making the example true twice over. Erudecorp 04:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Help:Reverting, WP:NPOVFAQ Casey Abell, stop deleting it. You're defenses continue to be irrelevant and wrong, so then you try another one. Stop. (In response to your latest: It is naturally a matter of opinion; that's what fun is. It is, however, neutral. The addition was not itself opinion, but about opinion. Your reverting defeats itself, because it could be called opinion, too.) Even if you have a personal issue against this, leave it alone. Deleting it is not funny. If you have a contrary statement to make for the sake of NPoV, then add it without deleting the other statement.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erudecorp (talk • contribs) 17:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I'll AGF. "Using the Internet" is already listed as a form of recreation. Which covers any enjoyment people might get from a "Recreation" article existing in Wikipedia. Look, I appreciate that you're trying to inject some humor into the article and the talk page. If you want to write a separate "Fun" article, it's fine with me. I would advise that you write in a reasonably serious way, though, because WP articles - and talk pages - are not supposed to be stand-up comedy routines. There are lots of other places on the Internet for comedy. Casey Abell 18:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added something that might be deleted 

message: Please forgive my niavete here but is Fun synonymous with Recreation? --Knowledge is NOT a dirty word 22:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thou speakest the truth. Fun needs its own article and is distinct from recreation. It is still good to mention fun in the recreation article, but they shouldn't be the same. Erudecorp 23:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: So should the puke article make me puke? Should the sad article make me cry? Erudecorp 00:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Touché. Erudecorp 00:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're both idiots! Of course the fun article should be fun, the vomit article should help you not vomit, and the sad article should help you not be sad. Wikipedia should not be unhelpful. The double-negative cancles out. So, Wikipedia should be helpful, and those looking for fun on Wikipedia should find it. What about those who call fun bad and confine their definition of fun to vain, idle and unproductive acts? Can't work or school be fun? Is only recreation fun? Is recreation ever not fun? Is unfun recreation still either? Erudecorp 04:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fun ≠ Recreation 

message: ...to spoil Erudecorp's fun (or recreation), but this edit summary won't tempt me into an edit war. But this article has already seen enough nonsense. Can we please stop adding more gibberish, both in the article and the talk page? Casey Abell 18:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorry...

message: I think Dogging should probably be added to the list. It is arguably a hell of a lot more fun than cycling!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.154.153.2 (talk) 11:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More activity topics... 

message: You might want to include an external link to http://www.FindSportsNow.com .  It's a "National Organization of Sports and Recreational Activities".
:I'm going to decline this addition. The site no longer works anyway. Adam McCormick (talk) 02:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Website 

message: Fun is not synonymous with Recreation, this can be clearly demonstrated as fact, by the existence of jobs that are fun and vacations that are not.
Sean is a game designer he has a job that is concerned with the creation of toys/games, fun in itself and not recreation.
Peter and Jane are given tickets to europe for 2 weeks on the condition that they guide their in-laws around as well.
Peter and Jane have a vacation that is recreation and not fun.
I propose that we make a new page for the definition of fun. Separate from recreation.
Seanbutler (talk) 19:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fun is not synonymous with Recreation 

message: Fun is not synonymous with Recreation when,  and if, recreation is done to excercise the mind and or body as a serious pursuit.  Then recreation becomes a chore, and a bore. People will recreate to avoid burn out, to debrief from a very intensive occurance for example, but a person recreating will not necessarily experience fun. They will "play" to prepare themselves for a state of fun, or they will "play" for fitness to perform a function.  They will practice to gain mastery. Recreation, when routine, will lose its joyfulness and fun unless imbued with a sense of unexpected.  Fun occurs with or without the pursuit of a goal.  Recreation can be fun.  Work can be fun.  Some people possess the ability to make many moments in their lives fun in all sorts of contexts.
Fun can be described as state of arousal(pyschological term), awakeness, awareness that intensifies pleasant feelings during an occurance.   Fun is an action that is easy, refreshing and pleasing all in one feeling.  Fun creates sensations of thrill, laughter, spontaneous joy, spontaneous amusement. Fun can be had anywhere, any time, and it cannot be stopped by external forces.  People say "you took the fun out of it", erroneously thinking someone has how power to change another's state of being. Only the person expeiencing fun can really change their state of having fun.  That is a powerful secret, so don't tell everyone that.  It might change the world.
Fun is really a state of mind.  Like euphoria, intensive engagement, humans have a hard time sustaining these intense states for very long unless they develop the skill, and habit of playing for fun no matter where they are.  People who do that just naturally are "fun to be with". One is having fun when a strong desire to repeat the same experience occurs to the person(s).  This is best accomplished without the use of or influence from a psychoactive substance.  People need both recreation and fun.  People will go to great lenghths to create conditions to repeat the same experience they had while having fun, including using a psychoactive substance to return to that state of fun.  But fun-ness is spontaneous, ironic, satirical, joking,and a release from the serious, mundane.  It is a form of startle.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.5.205.85 (talk) 17:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fun not synonymous with Recreation as a very serious discussion, but is it fun?

message: from under the first paragraph:
"fun to kids is just awesome. it is so cool like dr seuss man his books rock my socks."
looks like people are using this page for recreation. i'm sorry that i can't do this myself, but can someone take care of it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.34.104 (talk) 03:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandilism 

message: As many of the above comments indicate, fun is not the same as recreation. Add you vote to the discussion of a split.
*split — I recommend a split of this article. Jason Quinn (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split discussion 

message: In my opinion, the list of examples should only contain very general categories, as in my revision.   Otherwise, the list will either become unmanageable, or it will mislead by omitting specific activities. Sithman  VIII !! 22:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Examples 

message: Found in the Outdoor Recreation article.
http://www.qorf.org.au/_dbase_upl/OR%20definitions.pdf  Sithman  VIII !! 03:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's a nice ref 

message: This often vandalized article had at one time been much, much larger, but by now it had been slashed down to just three sentences, not fitting even as an attempt to address the topic of "recreation" (and "fun" redirected to it). So I have tried to give it some new life, expanded it, and then saved from the old deleted copies the paragraph on  "Recreation as a profession". I am sure there is more material in the older versions worth reviving. I fully agree with above comments that "Fun" deserves its own article and gave it a brief start.Ekem (talk) 19:39, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion Oct 31, 2010

message: I would do it myself, but I don't know how.
Somebody please do it.
Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImAlwaysHungry (talk • contribs) 18:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:R --Abel (talk) 12:15, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect "Having fun" to the article "Fun" 

message: Recreation is poorly defined here.  Recreation is more like an adjective and not a noun.  Not really sure what is going on here...hope you are having fun.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.235.154.42 (talk) 21:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Double Standard

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message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I recommend that this article clarify the difference between the two. From my experience, it seems that entertainment is a subset of recreation, can experts confirm /clarify?
Vinay84 (talk) 12:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: So if you lost in translation than check synonymes carefully.. 46.114.183.84 (talk) 23:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarify difference between recreation and entertainment?