Talk:Australian Broadcasting Corporation/Archive 1

message: Does anyone know what the ABC symbol is called or how it is spelt?
Tannin, I notice your edit to remove the claim of left-wing bias.  I would think it pretty hard to dispute that overall, the network's tone is to the left of just about every other mainstream media outlet in Australia (with the possible exception of The Age) - not so much in its treatment of the major parties (it used to excoriate Labor when in power too), nor in the accuracy of its reporting, but in the issues it chooses to cover and the attitudes it assumes (for instance asylum seekers, where it assumes that human rights treaties are important and many Australians clearly don't).--Robert Merkel
: Robert, that's an oxymoron. Just about everything is to the left of the Packer and Murdoch press. Right-wing people complain about the bias of the ABC, left-wing people complain about the bias of the ABC, just about everybody complains about the bias of the ABC. I take issue with the claim that right wingers are more vociferous: that is only true insofar as right-wing ABC bias claims tend to get reported more in the tabloid press and perhaps TV (i.e., by Packer, Murdoch, and their clones.) Slip along to a union meeting and you'll get a whole different point of view.
: On the particular issue you mention, I agree, the ABC has, generally speaking, taken a more pro-immigrant line than middle Australia - though whether this counts as "left wing" bias is debatable. (I'd suggest that the support of the parties of the right and of the left for various positions on this issue is more a matter of historical accident and wanting to take a contrary stance vis-a-vis their opponents than base ideology. And, come to think of it, that the ABC's bias here is largely a bias towards the trendy inteligentsia - who are, after all, their primary market.) 
: On the other hand, there are plenty of examples where the opposite applies, in particular, almost anything to do with management, labor and economics. Tannin
Of course the commercial networks tend to be more right wing in my opinion so it tends to even out somewhat
PMelvilleAustin 04:13 Jan 29, 2003 (UTC)
I'm new around here, but this is the first time I've seen links in section headings.  Is that a standard practice? Barkeep49 23:34, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The MOS says Avoid links within headings and I agree that they look awful.  I've changed a few. -- Ian ≡ talk 02:26, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

text: You are going to find a lot of bias in many TV networks.  Public broadcasters, in my honest "Yankee" opinion, are the hardest networks in terms of bias because they are supposed to be objective, and yet public broadcasters tend to be accused to support the current Government in power(doesn't matter which country) or towards a left-wing bias (because, to quote John Reith, the founder of the BBC, public broadcasting is meant to "elevate the human condition") or a right-wing bias (on some issues brought up in the news or just in the programming itself).  Take PBS/NPR in the United States, for instance.  In the US, ABC, CBS, and NBC are usually biased to the left, while FOX (thanks to Rupert Murdoch controlling the show) is usually biased to the right.  PBS/NPR usually tries to avoid bias, but I've heard complaints from both sides regarding either left-wing bias or right-wing bias.  Getting back to the topic here, I listen to Radio Australia on shortwave radio occasionally (when ionospheric conditions are right) and I don't hear any bias. -Daniel Blanchette 18:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: I've been bold in tampering with the opening, and I hope that contributors think the changes are reasonable. The article needs to be longer; for example, some tables, pie graphs of ABC income and expenditure would be useful; perhaps some images; a section in which the ABC is compared with the BBC, CBC, and other public broadcasters.
Tony 08:37, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs serious work 

message: A user is presently conducting a rewrite of this article. To prevent the actual article becoming a mess in the process, this rewrite is taking place on a temporary sub-page to be found here (also linked at top of page). Please feel free to contribute to this rewrite on the sub-page, or to edit the actual article regardless. Thanks, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: ''
[[ABC New Media publishes thousands of websites. Among the most notable are:
ABC News Online
ABC News Online has the most comprehensive local news coverage of Australia, publishing stories from the ABC's 36 regional bureaux. It also provides extensive national news and international news from an Australian perspective.
ABC Kids
One of the best children's sites on the Internet, you can safely sit your kids down in front of The Playground and keep them entertained for hours.
ABC Science Online
A rambling site, The Lab provides a fantastic gateway into the world of science, including the unique self-service science forum and the best science news from Down Under.]]
I think this should be rewritten for POV reasons, anyone agree? Jesus On Wheels 08:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Does anyone know what the name of the themesong for the hourly radio news is?— mæstro t/c 11:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: ABC Radio News Song

message: I wrote the history a few months ago, which I can see has been nicely improved since. We need more images: surely it's possible to obtain lots, even without the ABC's permission. Anyone got ideas? Tony 04:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More images? 

message: The text says 'It was used only once, in 1963.'  Can we get a citation and perhaps discuss this occurence?  Shermozle 17:19, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds quite interesting. I never knew that there was this power. I do recall the Postmaster General making a threat in the 1950s or 1960s (could be the same event) regarding News and Current Affairs content. He threatened to withdraw funding, from memory, but the threat was never carried out. --Cyvros 12:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minister's power to direct programming content 

message: This needs a lot of work. I have attempted to correct the errors that I noticed, but was unable to correct certain errors as it would have impacted content to which I am not knowledgeable about (mainly the history of the ABC) so I would not have been able to re-work those areas. Orbitalwow 04:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-edit 

message: Cyvros, how is it going with the audio file? 
The list of the 12 original radio stations appears twice: which list should be removed?
Tony 02:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ogg file for Majestic Fanfare, plus repeated list problem 

message: I notice that the ABC has not been referred to as Aunty in the article. Where does Aunty come from, who uses it and is it still a current term? Should it be mentioned in the article? Ozdaren 04:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone insists, a single reference might be OK. The word panders to the anti-arts, anti-intellectual streak that runs deeply in Australian society. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony1 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the word is nothing more than an Australian continuation of a tradition imported from Britain. The British BBC is also nicknamed Auntie, and we copied the term. The nickname has no anti-intellectual or anti-arts connotations - unless, of course, someone can produce verifiable evidence that it does. Zerrakhi 00:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True. And I have no knowledge of it being used as a derogatory term for the ABC. Fans always use it as a nickname. DarkSideOfTheSpoon 01:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aunty

message: I've just added more information (about 'key people') to the infobox, and moved it from the 'TV' section, as with the article on the BBC. Tim 04:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox