Talk:Postgenderism

message: This article is the result of splitting postgenderism from the Transgenderism (social movement) article. --Loremaster (talk) 14:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: This article needs a more neutral point of view. I've made some changes, but to me it still reads like propaganda. The Hughes-Dvorsky essay is currently the source for nearly all information in the article. Dvorsky is perhaps the movement's most notable proponent; if his perspective is the sole basis for the article, the article is bound to be somewhat biased. 
I think adding the perspectives of other notable futurists would help, but the subject isn't really at the forefront of debate, so I'm having a hard time finding sources. I imagine others are having the same problems. I seems that all the other futurists are talking about issues such as life extension, human enhancement, or the infamous (and conjectural) technological singularity. Almost any information you'll find concerning postgenderism has Dvorsky's name on it. I'll keep looking though. Strontium86 (talk) 01:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you and I support your efforts to improve the article. --Loremaster (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Ditto, my main agree is that a more general and neutral article is needed, will work on it a tad. (also, i would like to not reffer to anyone spicific's [Harroway's] gender in the article. It is irrelevant and irronic)  Z11o22 (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Perspective

message: This is an encyclopedia and it's important to include a section that comments on challenges to the conception of "postgenderism" or any controversy arising from it. I'm thinking that it might (or might not!) be a difficult idea for the GLBT to support or embrace. Gender is a social construction and it's not possible to individually transcend the gender  classifications of the societies we are embedded within. It sounds more like a personal philosophy than a political outlook or achievable goal. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 20:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs to be less activist 

message: Article states that " it is believed that reproduction can continue to happen outside of conventional methods, namely intercourse and artificial insemination. Advances such as human cloning, parthenogenesis and artificial wombs may significantly extend the potential for human reproduction.[1]" However, it's hard to say who is the believer, and on what basis, because none of the mentioned techniques (human cloning, parthenogenesis and artificial wombs) is available in humans, and the article gives no reference to any scientific paper, even the one discussing future possibilities of such developments.
Additionally, it seems that the one source cited multiple times in this article had been retrieved in 2008.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.231.36.66 (talk) 19:50, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Science & references 

message: Hi,
Recently initiated a new Draft:Sexual politics and looking for proactive help in updating and expanding the article. Please do see if contributing to Draft:Sexual politics  would interest you.
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Bookku (talk) 03:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Requesting some help

message: This article is relying too much on the first source. What’s more problematic is that the first doesn’t provide much on that topic.CycoMa (talk) 23:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You're on the list now. Equinox ◑ 18:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much emphasis on a single source 

message: Postgenderism is a social, political and cultural movement which arose from the eroding of the cultural, psychological, and social role of gender, and an argument for why the erosion of binary gender will be liberatory. Postgenderists argue that gender is an arbitrary and unnecessary limitation on human potential, and foresee the elimination of involuntary psychological gendering in the human species as a result of social and cultural designations and through the application of neurotechnology, biotechnology, and assistive reproductive technologies.
So, postgenderists want to destroy gender (all possible forms of it) or binary gender? There is a difference. I think we should clarify this in the preamble.Reprarina (talk) 22:00, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I add that "gender abolitionism" redirects here, but abolitionism is quite different from rejecting binarism alone. If they're not synonymous, separating might be better. Gmsrubin (talk) 01:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender or binary gender?