Talk:Vitas

message: I know this can't be listed because it's personal research, but I think it could be an interesting discussion. I'm pretty bad at classifying singers, but I'm pretty sure he's a tenor? His range, from what I've heard and attempted to measure, is C2 (in "Goodbye" - it's probably not really that low, though) up to Eb6 (in "Dedication").
Also, this article mentions his soprano voice. I'm pretty sure his high notes are in falsetto (just listen to Onepa #1 Asian version and compare it to the European voice. It's the exact same, but you can clearly hear that one sounds like the 'uglyness' was just edited out of the flasetto), correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're using your falsetto, wouldn't you be a countertenor or falsettist? 69.160.116.44 07:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think Anna Arutunyan of The Moscow News qualifies as a reliable source for Vitas' vocal range. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Vocal Range

message: "In March 2003 he also gave 264 solo concerts including in Russia, Australia, USA..."
Should this be reworded? It kind of seems that it's saying he did 264 concerts in the month of March. That would be almost 9 shows a night. 69.160.116.44 07:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording

message: Falsetto is NOT the same as HEAD VOICE. Head voice is not whistle register either. It's a different register, and engages different muscles. The progression is chest, mix, head, and whistle. If falsetto and head voice were synonymous, Wikipedia would not have two different articles. Vitas rarely used falsetto. Falsetto is scratchy and very limited, when HEAD VOICE is crystal clear and has a MUCH fuller range. There is a BIG difference between falsetto and head voice, and someone should cite the difference. With the range he has, singing with only falsetto would be impossible. He simply has full control of his head voice, and can freely transition from chest voice to head voice (via mix voice). Woodwindwaker (talk) 21:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That note is not in the whistle register, as far as I can tell. Highconclave 03:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whistle register 

message: Hi! I am wondering why does it say in the beginning of the article about Vitas that he is an Ukrainian-born and then that he is a porno star. He is definitly not a porno star and he is born in Latvia. If this is an error why it has not been corrected because i think it should. The readors who does not who Vitas is may think he is really a porno star because the article says so. (preceding comment unsigned)
:Someone was probably playing a sick joke.  It is too bad people use Wiki to play with.  They are supposed to be a factual encyclopedia.  But in reality, we cannot believe what we read when people persist to play games or write undocumented "facts". Vitasfan (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the original comment above is old, but in case similar issues arise in future: the tag at the top of the current version of the article states, "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful." If any editor should come across such additions in future, you don't need to ask about it here - please just click the "edit" tab and remove any vandalism and/or other clearly inappropriate material. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vitas 

message: In the controversy section, it states: "Ironically, Vitas starred in a murder mystery television series, where he played a pop singer with an unusually high voice." Seeing as how Vitas is a singer with an unusually high voice, I don't see how that's either controversial or Ironic. Was there some controversy or irony associated with his appearance that is not described? I think this line should be removed, especially if there is no citation for the appearance, and definitely if there is no citation for the irony or controversy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.27.160.124 (talk) 23:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: So uh, is he born in 81 or 79? cos the article mentions both —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.244.206.232 (talk) 11:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflicting birth dates 

message: The Russian Interwiki is a disamb.--Tresckow (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki 

message: "Vitas is sometimes known as Bumac which is how his name in Russian cursive appears when compared to letters in the Roman alphabet, or ВИТАС in Russian print when compared the same way. "
What does that even mean? He's not just sometimes known as Bumac is he? He IS Bumac in Cyrillic, or Vitas in the Roman alphabet. The pronunciation is nigh-on identical. Should all Wikipedia articles about something Russia now feature a "hey-look-at-their-crrraaazzzy-alphabet!" bit in a trivia section? Or am I missing something?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.64.39 (talk) 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyrillic transliteration does not belong in trivia 

message: I note that a recent edit has rightly clarified that not all the songs on this album were written by Vitas himself. The article now states "Another album "Mama" included only the new songs composed by Vitas among other songwriters." Is this now accurate? Were all of the songs featured on this album new? Starry River (by Aleksandra Pakhmutova and Nikolai Dobronravov) has a somewhat retro sound which prompted me to wonder if this might be a cover of an oldie, though of course it's entirely possible it was newly written in that style.
I was surprised to learn that Dedication was not composed by Vitas. Composer A. Bogoslovskaya apparently does not have a Wikipedia article. Does anyone here know anything about the composer or background of this piece? Was it written for Vitas, or perhaps originally composed as an instrumental? I can't imagine that it could have been composed as a vocal song without a specific singer in mind: hardly anyone would be able to sing it. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 01:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mama album 

message: Just wondering which translation is more correct. We currently have "Sleepless Nights" in the article whereas Vitas' own website gives the English title as "Sleepless Night". Google Translate (often an amusing source of gibberish) translates the Russian БЕССОННАЯ НОЧЬ as Restless night. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 03:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tour: "Sleepless Night" or "Sleepless Nights"?  

message: I know that Romanisation of Russian names can result in more than one spelling which may be considered correct, but can we have some consistency here? Vitas' surname is given as both Grachyov and Grachov, and his producer's name Poudovkin and Pudovkin. I think we should stick with the same spellings throughout the article.Contains Mild Peril (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: I previously included in the article a claim from Vitas' official website that his CD sales total over 100 million. However, I have not found this figure used anywhere else: all other sites I've found citing sales figures say 10 million. The 10 000 000 figure also appears to be several years old: I have found no further recent relevant data. I have therefore removed the mention of the highly questionable career sales figure from the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contains Mild Peril (talk • contribs) 18:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales figures 

message: Either English title is acceptable. The main point is Opera #2 is the song which was released as a single in early 2001, accompanied by the video (Dec 2000) in which Vitas has gills, plays the accordion naked and breaks glass with his voice. This single became a huge hit, winning the Russian prize for best-selling single in 3 consecutive years (as mentioned in the article).
I am aware that iTunes has erroneously listed this song as Opera No 1, which I think may be the source The Man in Question used for the edits which he no doubt had good reason to believe to be corrections. However, iTunes got it wrong. I have this song on Vitas' Philosophy of Miracle album (which also includes Opera #1), Myth of the Shaking Soul Voice DVD and Audio Visual Connect CD + DVD boxed set, and I've also seen many live performances of it on YouTube and Vitas' own website. It is definitely Opera #2. In fact, the type of scarf he wears in the video is now known as an "Opera #2 scarf" (some of these were given away as competition prizes) and if Vitas puts on that scarf at a concert it elicits a huge cheer because it announces the song he's about to sing.
I will now revert the relevant edits and add references which I hope will minimise further confusion. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 11:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opera #2/ Opera No 2: iTunes smegged up. 

message: Any opinions on which possessive form is preferred? The article has both, but I think we should use the same form throughout. Wikipedia's article on the apostrophe says either is acceptable in such cases, and usage should depend on intended pronunciation. Personally, I prefer Vitas' but I'm fine with either so long as it's consistent. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 04:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vitas' or Vitas's? 

message: This CD has been recently moved from the Albums discography section to Singles. It is a single track which is almost 40 minutes long, so it's questionable whether it belongs in either of those categories, though Vitas' official website describes it as an album. If we change the "Singles" heading to "Singles/ EPs", I suppose that would cover it? Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light of a New Day: single, album, EP or what? 

message: In some videos on YouTube he looks hairless and emaciated.  Are there health issues?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this was during the early days when he entered the entertainment business he was almost bald. His mother passed away and he got skinnier and lost more hair (as apparent in the 2002 Kremlin Concert) but it grew back later that year. He's changed a bit in the past few years, as he got a bit chubby by 2007 but he's now slightly skinnier. No need for this to be added to the article. Frankyboy5 (talk) 23:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I would not say he has ever been "chubby".  His weight has fluctuated, but not chubby! I saw him during the "chubby" period.  He was very slender! Remember the camera adds weight too. Vitasfan (talk) 15:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health 

message: Around the introduction there's a part that says: "His eclectic pop music is often difficult to categorise, incorporating elements of techno, dance, classical, jazz, folk music, and wild shrieking." Wild shrieking? Seriously? Plus the two sources cited do not even mention the type of music he sings, let alone that it's widely accepted that his style includes "wild shrieking".  Madgirl 15 (talk) 07:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you seen his music videos on youtube? To be fair, there really is a lot of shrieking. --76.115.67.114 (talk) 09:46, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wild shrieking? Seriously? 

message: Earlier this year, a video appeared online purporting to show Vitas being arrested on a DUI charge. I can't find any verification of that in English, though. Could somebody who reads Russian research and, if necessary, add that information? --Simon Columbus (talk) 13:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  DUI 

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message: I'm chiming in with others (at least one other, that is) on the topic of falsetto.
I am meanwhile really sick of the misused term "falsetto" when they actually mean "head voice".
I changed it accordingly in the article and insist for it to stay this way!
Falsetto is a "tone" and not a "register", neither entails it anything about the note height. You can sing falsetto in bass, for example. 
How hard can it be to understand that?
Sorry for my anger, but I'm not alone. You can see a lot of explanatory videos, e.g. on Youtube, some of them having the undertone of being annoyed by this misconception just like me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felix Tritschler (talk • contribs) 13:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head voice vs. Falsetto 

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message: Someone edited the article and messed up a section of Vitas' personal life: "Vitas has been known to be secretive about his personal life and has frequently declined interviews about it. He married his wife, Gianouxailidou, in 2006. They have a daughter and a son." If anyone can edit this (as I'm not sure how to myself,) and please replace that strange name with Svetlana, that would be greatly appreciated as it is (obviously) inaccurate. I don't even know who "Gianouxailidou" is anyway. EDIT: It's been fixed, thank you very much.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.92.21.224 (talk) 19:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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message: I used to edit here and have given up.  Whoever wrote that Vitas wrote "rain in tblisi" as a child, why don't you Google who actually wrote that?  Some things are easily found to be public knowledge.   It is not helpful to fill wiki pages with legends and gossip. 2600:1017:A011:6BE9:A8E8:6E10:AC7E:8AFE (talk) 13:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page is so full of errors