Talk:Social Stories

message: I will be editing this article, for Psychology 2410A at King's 2012, in the near future Everything was taken (talk) 16:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: You are concerned that the content violates copyright? We have taken the stub content from our site www.HealingThresholds.com. I am the CEO of www.HealingThresholds.com and I wanted to make sure that this important therapy for autism was covered in Wikipedia. Is there something more I should do??
PWSMom 21:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: copyright

message: Carol Gray is recognized as a pioneer in Social Stories.  She is the director of The Gray Center for Social Learning and Understanding in Grand Rapids, Michigan.  In 1991, Carol developed Social Stories.  Social stories are used worldwide with children, adolescents, and adults on the autism spectrum.  Carol Gray defines a social story as a short story that describes a situation in terms of relevant social cues and common responses, providing a student with accurate and specific information regarding what occurs in a situation, and why.  Social stories help individuals deal with changes in routine as well as how to handle social interactions.   
Gray, Carol. (2000).  New Social Story Book Illustrated Edition. 
Arlington: Future Horizons.    
:Please establish notability for this vanity entry with multiple independent, secondary reliable sources calling her a recognized pioneer in the field.  (We can't source her expertise to her own book, and we also can't advertise individual practioners and their books.)  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carol Gray 

message: I am in the middle of adding a substantial amount of information; specifically, adding research regarding the effectiveness of this as a strategy,  etc. 
I will also be asking for peer review once I have added the sections I am in the middle of writing. 
If there are any other items I should be deleting specifically, I can do that. 
Or, perhaps this belongs under a heading for Social intervention strategies, as a subset of autism therapies, either way, please do not delete it until there is a chance to get some feedback from my peers about what the best wording, and placement would be. Thanks.
--Svernon (talk) 18:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are misunderstanding the tags; the article is about a notable topic and is not a candidate for speedy deletion.  The problem with the article is that it is over-relying on one source (Carol Gray) and making the article an advert for her work, her books, her website, rather than using independent, secondary, journal-published, peer-reviewed literature.  Claims about her importance to the field can't be cited to her; the article needs to be independtly sourced, and it's not about Carol Gray, it's about social stories.  Any mention of her would have to be cited to independent sources.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Svernon, You're set - just keep adding more sources, and we'll be able to get this article up to snuff.  Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 20:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Speedy deletion 

message: I just lost a huge amount of cleanup to an edit conflict, so I'll try again later.  Please review WP:MSH, WP:ITALICS, WP:MOSLINK, WP:MOSBOLD and understand the norms for capitalization on Wiki (WP:MOS).  The article name shouldn't be repeated in section headings, italics are incorrectly used for a list, etc. Citation formatting is all over the place; please consider using the Diberri template filler for PMIDs in the user box on my userpage.  If you get it right the first time, it's far less work later and I won't have to keep putting cleanup tags on all these articles.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed this once already; it's back again.  Please have a look at WP:MOSNUM, WP:WTA and WP:AWW.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully the edit wasn't mine! Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 21:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah :-)  I just left Svernon a talk page message to inquire if s/he follows the talk page and the edit summaries, since I'm trying to save him/her some work further down the road. It's so much easier to get it right the first time :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I can check -- I'm doing all my refs by hand -- do you have a better way?Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, use Diberri's template filler, and follow that format for all citations, so the formatting will be consistent.  Go here, drop down to the PubMed menu, plug in a PMID number, and you get a citation.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All of my journal articles were sourced using Scholars Portal Search engine, and then taken from the 'peer-reviewed journal article' results. One article, by Nichols (that I have yet to post), I sent away for from the author in order to get a hard copy. I looked up the footnote referencing and noticed how you changed some of them in the page, so I will continue to do this when I add more. What else do I need to add to the sources for them to be considered reliable?--Svernon (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: DOIs on journal articles will help, although I'm not well versed in how reputable any of these journals are.   could better inform you if these are good sources and if you're missing anything.  Have you asked him to peek in here?  Before you get too much farther along, that would be a good idea.  You can see his work at autism (and all the daughter articles) and Asperger syndrome.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Much of this work is published in educational journals, which are not Pubmed indexed. That doesn't mean it's low-quality; it's just a different world, that's all. Eubulides (talk) 08:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: This article's sources are much improved. Good job! Here are a couple of sources that it could use. The first one is particularly important.
* A fairly recent high-quality review whose conclusions seem sound, and should affect the article somewhat: 
* A study that used blinded observer ratings: 
Eubulides (talk) 08:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for all your feedback. I will modify the sources at the end of my day. Thanks again--Svernon (talk) 13:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two more sources 

message: Wiki is not for advertising; please establish by providing a direct quote from an independent source, information about her importance and relevance to the field, or remove references to her name, books, websites, etc.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty clear from the other reliable sources (e.g., Reynhout & Carter 2006, ) that Gray originated and is still the primary source for social stories. That being said, there's no reason to mention Gray's name in the text; citing the seminal work should suffice. I did find a bunch of questionably-strong positive assessment of social stories, and made this edit to try to make the article more neutral. I don't detect any remaining signs of being an advertisement. Eubulides (talk) 09:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work; the article is on better footing now.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Advert

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