Talk:List of proposed amendments to the Constitution of the United States

message: This section should be deleted or moved, as it doesn't really list anything. Alternatively, the name for the article should be changed to something more appropriate. Any suggestions? Kdpssps (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's background. And why change the name? Outback the koala (talk) 06:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Change it to a title that doesn't make this section seem out of place. Kdpssps (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What if we changed the section on the amending process to "Background" or something like that instead? Other suggestions? Outback the koala (talk) 22:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Amending process

message: Does anyone have proof that Steny Hoyer was the one to propose the most recent repeal to the twenty-second amendment?
updated a small bit of information from the page Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution along with the citing, on January 4, 2013, Rep. José Serrano attempted the most recent proposal to appeal the 22nd amendment 66.189.173.57 (talk) 16:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Proof?

message: For some time I have been working on revisions to the Bricker Amendment article.  I finally posted it and have a PR at Wikipedia:Peer review/Bricker Amendment/archive1.  I'd welcome comments.  I know all those references may seem extravagant, but I'm hoping to get it as an FA and those voters want lots of footnotes.  PedanticallySpeaking 16:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bricker Amendment

message: The 'proposed mid-twentieth century' blurb here is contradicted by the content of the Christian amendment article--though I'm guessing the article's right, I don't know, and so will leave it to others to correct.
Wilhelm Ritter 04:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian Amendment

message: Why isn't the so called constitutional amendment against gay marriage included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.215.111 (talk • contribs) 
: Personally, I haven't seen an actual legislative proposal on that topic.  If you've got a source, add it.  Rossami (talk) 22:28, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriage between man and a woman.

message: Generally speaking, in the context of Constitutional amendments, a proposed amendment is one that has cleared the first phase for amendment, followed by ratification.  For example, Article V says:
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments..."
While proposal is also a term used for introducing legislation in Congress, I feel that to mix the two meanings of proposal together makes the term ambiguous.  Thus, I would restrict "proposed/proposal" to the Constitutional sense of the term (amendments approved by Congress or a Constitutional Convention) and then use a term such as "introduce" to refer to potential amendments introduced in a house of Congress that do not pass both houses.  Thoughts? –Pakman044 23:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I came to this article thinking it was going to list every amendment of the said constitution ever proposed.  It is still an interesting article and I got the information I wanted, but shouldn't the name be more like "List of proposed, but not yet accepted, amendments to the United States Constitution"- though it is a (bit) lengthy.  -76.188.26.92 (talk) 06:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong definition of "proposed"?

message: http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy116.htm
http://thebulletin.us/articles/2008/12/16/news/nation/doc494744dc48e97242563036.txt  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.192.100 (talk) 14:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: -IkonicDeath  —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: constitutiona convention of 2008?

message: These two articles are extremely similar and the information they contain could easily be fused together. Having both articles is counterproductive. I propose that the Unsuccessful attempts to amend the U.S. Constitution be merged into this page. Said page will then become a redirect to this page.Outback the koala (talk) 08:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Page Merge

message: I have deleted the references, including pictures, to the War of 1812. The article on Titles of Nobility Amendment clearly shows that the amendment continued to be voted on by those state legislatures that had not done so prior to the beginning of the War of 1812. When the war started on June 18, 1812 there were 18 states (Louisiana joined on April 30, 1812) and it was necessary to obtain 14 votes to approve the amendment at that time. The amendment simply failed to obtain the necessary number of votes at the time and there is no evidence that the War of 1812 influenced the voting. Dwalrus (talk) 13:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a mention of it all on the TONA page, so it's best if we exclude that from the article for now. Outback the koala (talk) 01:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: War of 1812

message: I suggest that a separate heading be established for the 2 amendments that were proposed by Congress but have expired: the Equal Rights Amendment and DC Voting Rights Amendment. Dynzmoar (talk) 11:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this would make sense. We should include a background regarding the debate surrounding the proposed amendments but expired amendments. Outback the koala (talk) 22:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I was wondering why the ERA wasn't listed here.... PurpleChez (talk) 18:59, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: New heading

message: prof larry sabato has his own article (2007)and randy barnett cannot.why?.bill of federalism is getting revalent in todays us political system as the federal govt is overreaching its limits
manchurian candidate 05:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: quit removing bill of federalism

message: I think we need to limit the scope of this article to those amendments that were actually proposed by Congress or a state, and remove the ones made by individuals. Those can be covered elsewhere. As of now, it's a bit difficult to tell what was an actual proposed amendment, and what was made by an individual for whatever purposes. - BilCat (talk) 07:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope of article

message: This link, while from a think-tank and therefore not a reliable source for Wikipedia in and of itself, was the first I had read of any sort of a National Debt Relief Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  Probably will bear watching, and may become notable if/as it is covered by other media over the coming months.  N2e (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: National Debt Relief Amendment

message: If an amendment fails, like the Equal Rights Amendment, does the entire process have to start over? If Congress were to pass the amendment again, do the states that already ratified it have to re-ratify? StarDust787 (talk) 23:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed amendments 

message: Does anyone else think the section on the 21st century is too long relative to the 19th and 20th centuries?  It covers just 10 years, yet the section contains 13 examples.  The previous two centuries cite only 10 examples.--Work permit (talk) 02:22, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I do as well.Naraht (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentivism 

message: Currently reads 'controversial Roe v. Wade decision'
should read 'Roe v. Wade decision' as controversial expresses an opinion. The ruling by the Supreme Court validates lower court rulings. The decision is not itself controversial, it is definitive to the law. Individual response to the decision might view it as controversial, but the legal decision is not.
108.91.140.62 (talk) 00:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roe v. Wade decision Text 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Does the article need a full list and description of the 27 ratified amendments? There's already a list article here describing them. This article is a list of proposed amendments, while including descriptions of the 6 unratified amendments is definitely appropriate; the 27 ratified amendments are no longer proposed amendments and kind of off topic. All that would be necessary is to mention that there have been 27 amendments, a link to the list of amendments, and a brief mention of the history of amendments touching on topics such as the Bill of Rights and the Reconstruction amendments. Any thoughts? Libertybison (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the larger question here (and it's not a new one) is, what's the purpose and scope of this list article? Is it to list every Constitutional amendment proposed by member of Congress? Is it to list every significant proposal that came close to passing or was adopted by Congress? Should the 33 proposed amendments (and I wouldn't differentiate between the 27 ratified proposals & the 6 unratified proposals) that Congress has sent to the states for ratification be included, or not? Also, for me at least, the subject of this list article's title is also part of this larger question. T's an issue that's been discussed on a couple of prior occasions. Personally, and in light of your comments above, I'd suggest we consider moving this page to something like List of proposals to amend the United States Constitution. The introduction could touch on the amendment process and link to the list of amendments article before pointing out that what follows is an incomplete list of proposals to amend the Constitution that have been introduced, but did not pass or are pending before Congress. Thanks for bringing this up; I've been thinking on-and-off for a while about how this page might be refined & improved. Drdpw (talk) 01:38, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You raise several good points, and the name change you propose may be a good thing. Although, if the article is going to mention historical proposals like the Blaine and Bricker Amendments that didn't get the go-ahead by Congress, which are no longer advocated for now, then it should also mention the unratified amendments that were rejected by the states. Libertybison (talk) 01:39, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks; regarding the 2 amendments that passed Congress but ("timed-out") failed to be ratified by the states, I don't think they need to be covered specifically in the body of such an article as they, along with the other 31 that were sent to the states for ratification would be addressed in the introduction, and are covered, like the still pending and ratified amendments, in the other list article. Let's let this sit for several days, and hopefully others will comment. Be of good cheer. Drdpw (talk) 02:00, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Ratified amendments

message: Over time, there have been several conversations concerning what to include/not-include in this article. So, after contemplating those conversations, I have been bold and removed the section listing the 33 amendments approved by Congress and sent to the states for ratification. Those approved amendments are listed at List of amendments to the United States Constitution, thus listing them here also is redundant. I have also added a hat note to the top of the article for clarity and ease of navigation:  Additionally, I updated the external links section (a few were dated). Cheers. Drdpw (talk) 20:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There are a large number of "proposed" amendments in the 21st century, many of which don't pass wp:notable since their only citations are to the resolution itself or a press release.   I've deleted them.  As it stood, the list seemed to smack of Wikipedia:Recentism.  The alternative would be to list every house or senate resolution introduced that proposed a constitutional amendment. Checking government records , that would mean 66 entries JUST for the the 2017-2018 session of congress.  Lets discuss if you disagree.Work permit (talk) 02:25, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion to you would be to start an afd about the article. It seems to warrant deletion. Drdpw (talk) 03:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a notability tag. Let’s see what happens.  Work permit (talk) 12:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non notable proposals 

message: It seems to have never been taken up by committee, much less less voted out of committee.  I could find no coverage of it in the press.  In the house it was sponsored by  9 representatives.  Lets discuss what makes this notable. If we covered every proposal by every member of congress, we would have 100 per year. Work permit (talk) 20:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Every Vote Counts Amendment 

message: I can find no independent coverage establishing notability of this constitutional proposal. The most prominent reference is a website for a group advocating for it.  Work permit (talk) 00:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion to you would be to start an afd about the article. It seems to warrant deletion. Drdpw (talk) 03:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a notability tag. Let’s see what happens.  Work permit (talk) 12:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liberty Amendement 

message: I have: changed uppercase letters to lowercase where necessary, as per MOS:CAPS; restored correct number of state legislatures that must ratify an amendment for it to  become operative - 38; expanded placement of references; and tweaked wording in a few places. Drdpw (talk) 22:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Update