Talk:Tiamat (band)

message: 3 reputable websites confirm it:
Contrawise, a search on "Tiamat gothic doom" came up with no relevant results that would reflect the "gothic doom" tag had even been debated or discussed as their genre in the first place. (There is also still no website that lists how it would even be a different genre than gothic metal.) The same could be said for the Type O Negative and Moonspell pages, whose genres were changed to "gothic doom".--Danteferno 12:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiamat - Gothic Metal or not? 

message: Why the hell Tiamat is called "symphonic metal" or even "symphonic black metal"? Not a single its song has anything to do with "sympho", not to mention "black"!!! "Sumerian Cry" is death metal, "Astral Sleep" is doom or maybe death doom (and a wonderful one!), the same may be said about "Clouds". "Wildhoney" is doom, maybe athmospheric doom, but still - keyboards per se do not make the band "sympho"! "A Deeper Kind of Slumber" is doom also, but closer to psychedelic rock, all songs being about drugs. Other albums are gothic metal or gothic doom. Actually, I've never seen Tiamat defined as symphonic metal before. Finally, who called Tiamat "symphonic black metal"? Any reasons???
Johan Edlund: Ha..cause we are symphonic at all. However we used to be playing pure dark Symphonic black metal and anything to
do with those any of your mentioned genres such as death, doom, gothic definotely not!!!! And contrary your post states "Sumerian Cry"
is our last black metal record and in "The Astrall Sleep" we start to use "symphonic" arrangements with black. And "keyboards per se do not make a band sympho!" Ha are you really never heard of string sections or any sympho sections playing from synths in generally or even never know what a hell keybords is what!!! We are allways played sympho black and it start right here from "The Astrall Sleep"!!  
This is the reason. I and we in generally call our music "dark symphonic black metal" with inflences of Pink Flyod, King Crimson, Candlemass, Mercyfull Fate, Fields of the Nephilim and Systers of Mercy. Prog, heavy, doom and gothic influences.
Johan Edlund (UTC) 16:13 
Cf: Tiamat at Encyclopaedia Metallum - no "sympho black"!
Blacklake June 19, 2006
:Metal Archives can’t be trusted (e. g.: user generated content and false information), see :de:Diskussion:Corrupted#Bearbeitungen. --217/83 20:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Please could some person remove the "black metal" and "symphonic metal" tags from here? I've never heard of anything orchestral of Tiamat and Tiamat's early works is definitely not "black metal" for that matter. Actually Tiamat was death metal-group in demos, Sumerian Cry and Astral Sleep (wich is very significant development in the melodic death metal-genre) and this newer style is just strainghtforward  Goth rock with metallic touch. Between these stuffs Tiamat recorded also an "atmospheric doom" record Clouds and "prog/Goth"/death metal-classic Wildhoney. Listen to Sumerian Cry or some of Tiamat's newer songs if you still called Tiamat "black metal" or "symphonic metal". As i say im not only who don't see anything sympho or black in the stuff of Tiamat. Finally, why the hell "black metal" and "symponic metal" tags stay here?!
+1 about "black metal"!!!
Where could it be in Tiamat music? Doom, Gothic, melodic Death (early), may be Dark Wave (late). Never heard "Black" from Tiamat. As I feel it mostly - Doom.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.242.217.67 (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you, who claim Tiamat never played Black Metal, even listen to Treblinka and Sumerian Cry? --217/83 20:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not sympho! 

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message: How come Tiamat is considered as Symphonic metal? They, well using synths middle on but those even does'nt make Symphonic sound to their music at all. And there's no source who state that Tiamat is Symphonic metal either. I furthermore believe that Symphonic metal tag is here because people often confuse Tiamat with Therion, which also was something close to death metal. By the way i removed Symphonic metal tag from all content of the page, because it's really not what they are playing nowadays. Thoughts? Etos 15:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symphonic metal? 

message: I removed the "After the dissolution of Treblinka, Johan Edlund joined some former members in a doom/death metal band called Expulsion (disbanded 1996)." part, but the change was reverted. Expulsion was around at the same time as Treblinka, and Edlund helped the band out with photographs for their second CD, as well as doing guest vocals on one verse from their first album. Edlund was never considered as a member of Expulsion.
82.99.7.26 (talk) 11:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He was still part of the band and that deserves to be mentioned - it never states that he was a full time member. Now stop removing this. --Danteferno (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: Ok as none of the genres in the infobox have sources maybe they shouldnt be there.Solinothe Wolf 09:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I may note threshold inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth.Take a look at WP:V.If the genres are to stay they should pass WP:V as its one of the three core content policies of wiki.So the fact that no one's had any problems with them doesnt help.The whole article has a sourcing problem as it's sources doesn't seem to be reliable.Solinothe Wolf 10:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: They are listed on the page as still active, but I can't find any social media, new music, or tours since 2014. 172.110.27.41 (talk) 19:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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