Talk:Goa'uld characters in Stargate

message: Should we add Junior to this list, if only for consistency's sake? -- SFH 18:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you're right, and so i added him.... Maartentje 20:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Junior

message: I'm not 100% sure, but I think he did appear on screen. I've been searching for then name of the actor, but I can't find it. If anyone can, please add it. - ThePoorGuy 13:40, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't think so.  All we heard was his large, overly melodramatic voice booming down his commands when he came to conquer the Latonans. JBK405 20:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He did appear in Season 5's Summit and Last Stand
http://www.talkabouttelevision.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-sg1/messages/203459.html. I remember seeing him. On Gateworld, they have a picture of him, but no namehttp://gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/links/svarog.shtml. The voice heard in The Sentinel was that of Peter DeLuisehttp://www.lawrence2k.plus.com/SGref/sgrefmain2.htm. ThePoorGuy 09:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Svarog 

message: Why are we using the character spelling from Gateworld, a fan site, instead of the spelling that appears in the episode credits, Official Website, and the distributor's website ? 24.97.182.82 04:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: All Goa'uld but Apophis (Stargate), Anubis (Stargate), Ba'al (Stargate) and Ra (Stargate) were merged into this list (which still needs to be trimmed per WP:NOT#PLOT and Wikipedia:WAF#Notability_and_undue_weight) because they don't satisfy WP:FICT, which is necessary to have them have their own article. I further believe merging the last four Goa'uld is the easiest way to go get them inline with WP:FICT. The other option is for someone to find conception, production and reception information and add that to the articles so that they can stand on their own per WP:FICT. Please be aware that this is not a discussion to determine if you like these four articles in their current form, but how you are willing to help improvement (both trimming&merging and encyclopedic expansion are improvement). If someone later wants to work on these articles, the page history allows the articles to be resurrected any time. I'm not in a hurry to merge these characters, but be aware that there is little to be gained by keeping the articles in their current state forever. Merge discussions usually last somewhere between a week and two months. – sgeureka t•c 23:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No addition of any kind of real-world information to any of the four articles in almost four weeks, which thus still fail WP:NOT#PLOT. I am therefore performing a trim (because of WP:NOT#PLOT, instead linking to wikia) and merge (per WP:FICT). Editors wishing to bring the articles back should add significant amount of real-world information as outlined in WP:WAF; the plot should be kept short accordingly. I am expressedly not ignoring 70.255.191.80 and User:SFH here, but am editing in line with policies and guidelines. Unexplained full-reverts of the mergers will be reverted as they are in ignorance of policies and guidelines and this discussion. I'll try to answer questions if they come up (I have this page watchlisted, but I can also be contacted via my talkpage.) – sgeureka t•c 12:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: All references that I have found on wikipedia are spelled 'Qetesh', as well as some other places, while in the credits for the Stargate Continuum movie, the spelling is listed as 'Quetesh'. Is this a spelling error in the credits, or can the name be spelled either way? Or is 'Qetesh' the spelling that was used where the actual spelling was unknown? --207.216.221.116 (talk) 14:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of 'Qetesh' 

message: I personally believe that the Stargate pages on Wikipedia have been severly over-merged.It is very difficult to find real life information on a fictionsl character. Does this mean that I can merge together all of the Seinfeld or for that matter any other characters in a television show together just because there isn't enough real-life information. If you ask me Sgeureke, your claims are bogus. 96.230.192.142 (talk) 22:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be that wikipedia is not for you, since my "bogus" claims are based on wikipedia policies and guidelines: WP:NOT#POT, WP:WAF, WP:N, WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:TRIVIA, WP:UNDUE (the list goes on). wikia:Stargate, on the other hand, has so much plot detail as you are looking for and more. If you want to deepen this issue, you can contact me on my talkpage: User talk:Sgeureka. And yes, you may merge any Seinfeld character articles without enough real-world notability. – sgeureka t•c 08:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over Merging? 

message: IMHO the whole Ra thing is a thorn in many an SG1 fan's side. Without getting into a messy debate, generally I favour the policy of simply noting the contradictions between the two and moving on. 
Having said that, I think it is important to give due credit to Roland Emmerich ( cf  Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods, Graham Hancock's  Fingerprints of the Gods, and  Robert E. Howard ) for the basic premise that SG1 canon is founded on. Following that, I would suggest that the following should be changed to reflect this:
"In some scenes of the movie, the outline of Ra's original humanoid form can be seen. This contradicts Stargate SG-1, in which Ra's species are serpentine parasites."
should become:
Stargate SG1 contradicts this, retconning Ra as a canonical Goa'uld. 
The reason for my proposal is thus:
1. It is chronological.( How can Stargate contradict SG1 when it preceded it?) 
2. It acknowledges Emmerich's Stargate as the premise for the TV show.(I'd hope people consider this WP:FACT rather than WP:NOR) 
3. Subsequently and explicitly states that SG1 has subtle differences.(Ibid)
4. Simplifies the sentence structure, using the wikilink rather than adjectival prose.
5. As a result, passes the copywriter's 'Plain Language Test'.
6. Explicitly states the retroactive continuity. 
As I said, splitting hairs- but I believe it worthwhile.
Any objections? 
Paul Roberton (talk) 14:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting hairs over Ra 

message: Should it be mentioned that his name is pronounced like "fall" (even with jokes about balls) in the show, but is most likely taken from Ba'al pronounced like "fail" (hear at merriam-webster)? 68.32.185.166 (talk) 00:26, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ba'al 

message: Retconning concepts from SG1 (Asgard, Unas, Symbiotes, Goauld) onto Ra is wading into murkey waters. If one feels it necessary, there is a  section on differences between the two productions .With proper evidence and citations, perhaps this contribution could be entered there.</br>
Regards, </br>
Paul.</br>
Paul Roberton (talk) 14:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retconning onto Ra 

message: Nirrti was a male in the Singularity episode.
:http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s1/transcripts/114.shtml
::TEAL'C: This Goa'uld Nirrti, he once sent an emissary of peace, to negotiate a treaty concerning a Stargate, Apophis had taken control of. The negotiations was a ploy, the Stargate was destroyed.
-Ac44ck (talk) 01:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nirrti 

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