Talk:Lewis Hamilton

message: The move has not been confirmed by anyone within mercedes , ferrari , f1 or Lewis himself hold edits about his transfer till further confirmation as  rumors like this happened before •Cyberwolf•talk? 14:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that it's currently WP:SPECULATION until confirmed by one or more of the teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish there would be a sports speculation and how news agencys shouldn’t be cited independently but with the team or organization press release to further verify •Cyberwolf•talk? 15:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice his Ferrari has been added, despite that the fact that Sky Sports article clearly shows they believe it to be true but haven't had official confirmation.... Joseph2302 (talk) 15:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed until an official announcement from either Mercedes or Ferrari. LouisOrr27 (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

text: I  would delete or specify that it hasn’t been confirmed by Mercedes or Ferrari or Lewis haven’t confirmed this •Cyberwolf•talk? 16:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it better to leave the article without it until an official announcement from either Mercedes, Ferrari or Lewis. LouisOrr27 (talk) 16:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: News agencies are the equivalent to a middle school •Cyberwolf•talk? 16:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Mercedes didnt know and was caught off guard •Cyberwolf•talk? 17:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ferrari and Mercedes have refused to comment.Mercedes F1 staff were told in a meeting with team principal Toto Wolff and technical director James Allison on Thursday afternoonBBC saysWhy doesn’t Mercedes Ferrari or Hamilton say anything •Cyberwolf•talk? 17:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Mercedes have just put out a press release, nothing from Ferrari yet though. Shaws username (talk) 19:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ferrari confirmed I give the green light to add him going to ferrarihttps://twitter.com/ScuderiaFerrari/status/1753133900925129140 •Cyberwolf•talk? 19:21, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Its also confirmed by the official F1 social medias. Rawsar6 (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrari 

message: Under his name he is called MBE which he was awarded in 2008 however in 2020 he was awarded a KBE which is a higher title. Despite this his title has not been upgraded even though he is called a "sir" above. Should it not be changed into KBE? DuxLoKi (talk) 23:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: (I'm not an expert, but as I understand it) Hamilton is not a KBE (Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) but simply a Knight Bachelor which is a slightly different honour and does not get a post-nominal letters.  SSSB (talk) 07:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, from what I've read, but if he is Knight Bachelor, he should not have the MBE post nominal, right? 4rkange1 (talk) 03:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? He is still a Member of the British Empire. Being a Knight Bachelor does not overrule this. SSSB (talk) 06:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. May I assume that as in the thread below, he was granted MBE in 2009, but more recently KBE? 4rkange1 (talk) 09:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. That's exactly what happened (and quite common)  SSSB (talk) 12:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No - MBE, then Knight Bachelor (Kt, but not used as a post-nominal unless there is a clashing title). Ian Dalziel (talk) 14:36, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is he called "MBE" rather than "KBE" 

message: Change MBE to KBE. Lewis Hamilton got the title MBE in 2009, but has since become a KBE, which is why he can use "Sir". 
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.seven-time-f1-champion-sir-lewis-hamilton-knighted-at-windsor-castle.5tY9cYG8dFe6nqLsYD1YQ4.html
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-what-is-the-difference-between-lewis-hamilton-honor-as-mbe-and-christian-horner-honor-as-cbe/
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/30/arise-sir-lewis-hamilton-given-knighthood-in-new-year-honours-listhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/30/arise-sir-lewis-hamilton-given-knighthood-in-new-year-honours-list EstherB (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind. I see this has been addressed.  EstherB (talk) 18:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Not done: See the above thread for details.  SSSB (talk) 19:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2024 

message: Hamilton was NOT the first Black driver, Willy T. Ribbs was an F1 driver in the '80s 92.249.247.156 (talk) 15:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Willy T. Ribbs did not ever compete in Formula One, only testing.  Cerebral726 (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2024

message: 'Being the only black child racing at his club, Hamilton was subjected to racist abuse'. I think the the word 'black' in this sentence should be changed to 'mixed-race'as he is mixed race, not black. It wouldn't make sense to describe him as 'white' because his father is black, so it shouldn't make sense to describe him as 'black' as his mother is white. Liam-0060- (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Per the source, Hamilton describes being "the only black family."  Cerebral726 (talk) 20:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: yes but he is wrong to describe himself as black. he isn't - he is mixed race. Liam-0060- (talk) 23:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether he is wrong or right is irrelevant. Wikipedia follows the reliable sources, and the reliable sources describe him as the only black family, so therefore we must too. But, it is not wrong to describe Hamilton as being black - the source is not describing his ethnicity, it is describing his appereance. Look at the definitions of "black" at the Cambrige dictionary, and you will notice that when describing a person using "black" as a noun (you will need to scroll down a bit) ethnicity doesn't come into it at all - and for none of the relevant definitions is ethnicity a requirement.  SSSB (talk) 07:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2024