Talk:Han Chinese subgroups

message: Shanghaier, not Shanghainese.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anisomycin (talk • contribs) 23:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  unknown

message: A lot of weasel words ("Some might consider...") in this article; no references. The stuff about one term being used in mainland China and another in Taiwan is unreferenced. Problems with the list, as pointed out above. What on earth is Ou-Yue anyway? Also needs Chinese characters. Wuyue is a defunct state from 1000 years ago. I've never heard it being used to reference a distinct ethnic subgroup. --Sumple (Talk) 07:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced and dubious statements? 

message: This seems to just list a bunch of regions in China, with only a few actual peoples with Wikipedia articles. Can anyone with expertise on the subject comment? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 04:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to add only ethnic groups with articles. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 23:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article really needs to be redone 

message: Are they all synonymous, or is one a subgroup of the other? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 23:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoklo vs Min vs Fujianese

message: Please, whoever it is, stop it. Those alleged ethnic groups need their own referenced articles to be linked to by this one. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 08:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify: That isn't to say that you shouldn't find sources of their existance - by all means do, it's just that it can't remain as a sourceless red link. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 20:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again, please add the links only once they have sourced articles. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone keeps adding red links

message: I expanded the article into information "by dialect" and "by region" so it's not just a list. Currently the "by dialect" section is somewhat small (and looks somewhat strange with all the sub-sections), so any help with that would be appreciated. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 08:04, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I cleaned up the "by dialect" section. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 04:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanded article

message: Isn't information on which Han subgroups immigrated where relevant to the article? Why was it removed? saɪm duʃan Talk|Contribs 09:36, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's useful information. And no, it is necessarily about Han Chinese if we're talking about the Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, etc. diasporas. 58.165.101.207 (talk) 09:32, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was information on different Han ethnic groups overseas removed? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Many "subgroups" in the article, especially Mandarin-speaking subgroups, are entirely unsourced and most likely all imaginary. For example, I have never seen any source that divides northern Chinese into "Jilu people", "Shandong people" and "Hebei people". Particularly, I don't know how "Jilu" (literally Shandong-Hebei) can be listed alongside the other two groups. 
All the groups apparently add up to the total Han Chinese population, but some regions (e.g. Henan, Gansu) are absent from the list, so it is also dubious where the statistics come from. I'm removing the list from the article for now and only keeping the sections that are resonably sourced or have main articles.
The number of speakers derived from statistics or estimates (2019) and were rounded:https://www.ethnologue.com/ 
Number	People               	Subgroups                                                                	Main Area                                           	Population
1     	Sichuanese people    	                                                                         	Sichuan, Chongqing                                  	140,000,000
2     	Shandong people      	                                                                         	Shandong, Liaodong                                  	120,000,000
3     	Jilu people          	                                                                         	Tianjin, Southern Hebei, Shandong                   	95,000,000
4     	Northeastern people  	                                                                         	Liaoning, Jilin, Heilongjiang                       	90,000,000
5     	Wu people            	Shanghainese people, Ningbonese people, Wenzhou people                   	Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shanghai, Anhui, Jiangxi, Fujian 	90,000,000
6     	Jianghuai people     	Subei people                                                             	Jiangsu Province, Anhui Province                    	85,000,000
7     	Cantonese people     	Taishanese people, Hongkongers, Macau people, Macanese people            	Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan, Hong Kong, Macau        	66,000,000
8     	Min people           	Fuzhou people, Hainan people, Hoklo people, Putian people, Teochew people	Fujian, Taiwan, Hainan, Southern Zhejiang, Guangdong	65,000,000
8     	Hubei people         	                                                                         	Hubei                                               	65,000,000
10    	Jin people           	                                                                         	Shanxi                                              	63,000,000
11    	Hebei people         	                                                                         	Beijing, Northern Hebei                             	55,000,000
12    	Hakka people         	Ngái people                                                              	Guangdong, Fujian, Jiangxi, Guangxi, Sichuan, Hunan 	47,000,000
13    	Hunanese people      	                                                                         	Hunan, Northeastern Guangxi                         	38,000,000
14    	Gan people           	                                                                         	Jiangxi, Eastern Hunan                              	22,000,000
15    	Tanka people         	Fuzhou Tanka                                                             	Guangdong, Guangxi, Fujian, Hainan                  	5,000,000
16    	Huizhou people       	                                                                         	Huizhou                                             	4,600,000
17    	Chuanqing people     	                                                                         	Guizhou                                             	700,000
18    	Gaoshan people       	                                                                         	Yunnan, Guizhou                                     	400,000
19    	Waxiang people       	                                                                         	Hunan                                               	400,000
20    	Tunbao people        	                                                                         	Guizhou, Anshun                                     	300,000
21    	Hui'an people        	                                                                         	Quanzhou, Fujian, China                             	50,000
Total 	Han Chinese subgroups	                                                                         	China                                               	1,380,000,000
 Esiymbro (talk) 15:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious subgroups