Talk:Noli Me Tángere (novel)

message: todo: history, publication , finances and funds for publication,implications of readers--Jondel 02:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Does anybody know if the Spanish Church in the Philippines banned the book? --Jondel 06:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Censured by the Colonial Church

message: Can someone verify that "Noli me Tangere" was on signs attached to lepers? The Wikipedia articles on the phrase "Noli_me_tangere" and John_20:17, where the phrase originated, say that it is what Jesus said to Mary Magdalene after the resurrection, and it makes no mention of lepers. This page aside, I am unable to find sources on Wikipedia or Google that indicate that lepers are in any way involved with the phrase. --Migs 06:40, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. 
20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and [that] he had spoken these things unto her. 
20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you. 
20:20 And when he had so said, he showed unto them [his] hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. 
--Jondel 09:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: John 20:17

message: May I also request for information to be included as to who is the person to have translated Noli Me Tangere in Filipino vernacular or language?
Thank you.
Several authors have translated Noli Me Tangere to Filipino. No one person translated it. Jute 00:11, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
:If you meant the standard translation approved by the Bureau of Public High Schools, Maria Odulio de Guzman translated it. There are also translations by Leon Ma. Guerrero, Soledad Lacson-Locsin, and Virgilio Almario in Filipino and English. That's about it; I don't know if there are more translators.
:Additional note: Noli, by the way, has also been translated in Italian and other foreign languages. I have the Italian copy. It's just curious I can't find any French or German translations. Dunong 18:59, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  People who translated 

message: Noli Me Tangere or "Do not touch me." was indeed taken from the Bible, specifically from John 20:17. That was the part where Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene in Jesus' tomb. I never saw anything about lepers so you might wanna check your Bible again.
Also, Rizal did say that he extracted the book's title from the Bible, though I'm not really sure if he made mention about it in the book. He made this clear in his letter to Felix Resureccion Hidalgo, a Filipino painter: Noli Me Tangere, words taken from the Gospel of St. Luke (actually, St. John), signify "Do not touch me." (Agoncillo Teodoro. p.139, History of the Filipino People: Eighth Edition. Garotech Publishing, Quezon City. 1990) In this letter, Rizal explained some things about the novel, most of which were its social implications.--jbbuena 16:08, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Noli Me Tangere' was indeed taken from John 20:17 

message: The french searcher D. Blumenstihl says that "Noli me tangere" is in fact the professional "nickname" the ophtalmologists give to the cancer of the eyelids. A tribute to Rizal
Yes, but there is a mistake in the main article. It says D. Blumentritt instead of Dominique Blumenstihl-Roth. This would appear to be a confusion of some sort with Rizal's close friend the Czech, Ferdinand Blumentritt.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.255.82 (talk) 18:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Noli me tangere : the real reference of Jose Rizal

message: "Fray Dámaso" and "Padre Dámaso" are used interchangeably in the article. Considering that his separate article is found under the name "Father Dámaso," I've changed "Fray" and "Padre" to "Father." I also changed "Damaso" to "Dámaso" per same article. (This is correct according to my English translation of Noli and the Father Dámaso article.)
From the article:
Fray Dámaso takes this opportunity to persuade the already-hesitant parents of Maria Clara to forbid their daughter from marrying Ibarra. 
Maria Clara's mother died giving birth to her (a puerperal fever, according to my English translation of Noli by Leon Ma. Guerrero). She could not have been persuaded by Father Dámaso because she was erm, already dead. He just convinced her father, Capitan Tiago.
Do I need to put my translated book as a reference? Sorry, I'm still pretty new here. Fluffybun 13:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The spelling and choice of languages for this person's title do not need a reference.  But, there is no online English translation in the "External links" section.  (There was one, but the link was broken, so I deleted it.)  If your translation is online and can be read online by everyone who comes to this page then it would be useful to add a link to it. Gronky 13:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Father Dámaso and Maria Clara

message: Should we include a list of characters in Noli? Mark j (talk) 23:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters

message: I just want to ask why this article talks about a Don Quixote. As I read the past versions of this article it talks about Crisostomo Ibarra (which is correct). Why is it about a Don Quixote now?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodields (talk • contribs) 06:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this Noli Me Tangere??? 

message: This is actually added in the page. Is it written in Tagalog so I removed it. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 04:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Buod ng aklat na Noli Me Tangere

message: The article says that:
"Unfortunately, it was raining and because of the bothersome weight of the cadaver, the men in charge of the burial decided to throw the corpse into the river."
but when we took up the test about Chapter XIII Signs of Storm, I was wrong when I answered river because the correct answer is lawa (lawa is the the tagalog term of lake) and I read books about the novel and they all tell that Don Rafael was thrown in the lake not in the river
The Social Cancer by Jose Rizal - Full Text Free Book (Part 3/11) Anonymousman001 (talk) 15:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Don Rafael 

message: The article says 'The sequence of events proved to be too traumatic for María Clara who got seriously ill but was luckily cured by the medicine Ibarra sería Clara to marry a Peninsular named Linares who just arrived from Spain."  There's something wrong here but I don't know how to fix it.  --Richard (talk) 05:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happens after Maria Clara becomes seriously ill? 

message: In Chapter 1 of Noli Me Tangere, the abolition of the tobacco monopoly is mentioned, making the story take place in the early 1880s. At the novel's epilogue, it is mentioned that a steamer named "Lipa" exploded with the event taking place on January 2, 1883, according to an author's note. Kevzspeare (talk) 03:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time setting of Noli Me Tangere 

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replies: text: Hi. Yes, I'm afraid that's the problem exactly. As :wmf:Terms of Use note, we are no longer able to import material from websites licensed under GFDL unless they are also licensed compatibly with CC-By-SA. While our licensing transition was completed this summer, its application is unfortunately retroactive to 1 November 2008. (See Wikipedia:Licensing update.) This deadline was not set by the Wikimedia Foundation but by the GNU Project as part of their agreement with our transition request. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Please help me find other film/TV/theater/literary adaptations of Noli Me Tangere aside from the 1951 film Sisa and the 1961 film named after the novel (both directed by Gerardo de Leon). Kevzspeare (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More adaptations of the novel

message: This doc "The afterlives of noli me tangere" lists more english and tagalog translations, as well as a japanese, chinese, and probably indonesian:
http://www.philippinestudies.net/files/journals/1/articles/3393/public/3393-5250-1-PB.pdf
I've already improved this article today, so I'm leaving this for another time/person.  Gronky (talk) 17:28, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's a document extensively listing translations 

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message: Read this: "Crisóstomo Ibarra, the mestizo daughter of recently deceased Don Rafael Ibarra..."
I don't know who wrote this part. Either he/she is vandalizing the article or it is a result of extreme ignorance. Considering this is a novel by the Philippine national hero, it is sad to see how it went unnoticed. Students and historians read this and they must be laughing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.30.96.30 (talk) 15:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mestizo "daughter"? 

message: It is a prevailing belief that Rizal's Noli Me Tangere was inspired by Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin. This has been reinforced through school curriculum that is taught from elementary to college. A reading of the latter shows that there are very little similarities between Rizal's novel and Stowe's novel.  Benito Pérez Galdós' "Doña Perfecta", on the other hand, has themes and characters strikingly similar to Noli.
Character archetypes are noted to be similar between Jose Rizal's Noli Me Tangere and Benito Pérez Galdós' Doña Perfecta, to wit:
# Rafael Ibarra (in Noli Me Tangere) to Juan Rey (in Doña Perfecta);
# Crisóstomo Ibarra (in Noli Me Tangere) to Pepe Rey (in Doña Perfecta);
# María Clara (in Noli Me Tangere) to Rosario (in Doña Perfecta);
# Capitán Tiago (in Noli Me Tangere) to Doña Perfecta (in Doña Perfecta);
# Padre Dámaso (in Noli Me Tangere) to Padre Inocencio (in Doña Perfecta);
# Filósofo Tasio (in Noli Me Tangere) to Don Cayetano (in Doña Perfecta);
# Linares (in Noli Me Tangere) to Jacinto (in Doña Perfecta).
Several focused themes are also noted between Jose Rizal's Noli Me Tangere and Benito Pérez Galdós' Doña Perfecta. The novels critique on the natives' negative traits such as resistance to reforms/modernization, culture of mediocrity, and strong belief in superstitions, among others. Both novels also criticized the frailocracy, that were prevalent in the Philippines and to some extent in Spain at that time.
Here is the link to Benito Pérez Galdós' Doña Perfecta novel, for comparison.
Obed.ello (talk) 05:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Uncle Tom's Cabin" as an inspiration to "Noli Me Tangere" 

message: There have been a provision in the Rizal Law that states that students aren't required to read the Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo. FinerInside28 (talk) 06:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Rizal Law require students  to read Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo? 

message: Boy 203.189.119.100 (talk) 09:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noli me tanghere 

message: overal purpose structure 120.28.214.89 (talk) 06:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overal purpose structure