Talk:Zhaobao tai chi

message: I removed the statement the Zhaobao is more rigorous because it is pure speculation.  I am very impressed with the demonstration of the low frame Zhaobao link at the bottom of the page but at the same time he has made himself so low that he cannot fully sink/press downward further for application.  Which opens the debate is it more rigorous to be  that low and moving relatively fast or is it more rigorous to be slightly higher and supporting the body weight in the more difficult 90 degree leg position (test this by standing) and moving slowly. In my opinion speculation comparison is just not right. Mlmalone 16:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rigorousness

message: It has been discussed at length here: Talk:T'ai chi ch'uan#Romanization / Naming Revisited. Unfortunately the consensus was not reached to move to pinyin (taijiquan), as most other Chinese martial arts have done. This is because although most well learned practitioners and professionals of the martial art refer to it in the pinyin form, the majority of references to it are still in the Wade-Giles form. Consensus was thus reached to at least use the accurate Wade-Giles form, if at all, since the spelling "tai chi chuan" is too ambiguous as in turn one could, for example, also write "chi" (for "qi") instead of "ch'i", and making it appear to be the "chi" in the name (tai chi chuan), etc. This consensus has allowed for correctness while following WP guidelines of adopting the most common usage.In turn, in all related articles it's to be made immediately clear that "t'ai chi ch'uan" is interchangeable with "taijiquan", e.g. writing "t'ai chi ch'uan (taijiquan)" or "taijiquan (t'ai chi ch'uan"), while on the t'ai chi ch'uan page, a write-up is going to be made to reflect that officially, taijiquan is preferred. For the sake of avoiding unnecessary fragmentation & to maintain consistency, all the family styles & other sub-styles are being renamed to "t'ai chi ch'uan" as well. The shift of common usage is slowing moving toward pinyin and in time the change will be made to it, but for now the current usage in it's correct form is what seems best to use and, of course, to avoid confusion through naming fragmentation, it's best to have all sub-pages in-line with the main t'ai chi ch'uan page. I hope this doesn't upset anyone and you all understand the necessity for the current position that has been taken. InferKNOX (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "Zhaobao t'ai chi ch'uan" 

message: I'm working hard on improving the lineage trees for the main taijiquan page and for all the family style pages. Please comment on the this tree where you feel improvements can be made and help me by posting information on individuals that aught to be included in the tree and the reason for their significance so that a detailed Zhaobao-style tree can be produced. All individuals to be added that are approved upon (via consensus of course) will be added, unless they threaten to make the tree excessively large whilst adding little value to the overall tree.
The tree on the main page is to focus on the gate keepers of the styles in order to show each family style's lineage without making it excessively large, while the trees on the family style pages and this page are to be more focused on the particular styles, showing a more in depth view of it's development & connection to other family styles. I hope to hear from as many of you as possible & will continue making edits to the tree here as feedback comes in. Thanks. ~ InferKNOX (talk) 15:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving lineage trees 

message: often in wikipedia, you can switch between languages. this page doesn't seem to be associated with the chinese variant at http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/趙堡太極拳   24.14.52.8 (talk) 04:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  link to chinese page? 

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