Talk:FUBAR

message: At the end of the article there is something talking about a band playing in San Francisco. Doesn't that seem a bit misplaced?
81.231.7.57 18:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd part? 

message: This article should be a branch off a disambiguation page that points to this and an article on the acronym FUBAR.  I don't know how to do that yet, but when I learn, I will probably make it happen.
Vic Sinclair 06:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  FUBAR in other forms 

message: Merge done and made new disambiguation page. Vic Sinclair 10:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Shouldnt saving private ryan be mentioned in the movies catagory? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.84.227 (talk • contribs) 
: It is, in the second bullet point.  On the other hand, uses of a word seem to be slightly unencyclopedic.  We can't possibly catch all the uses anywhere.  Does the fact that most young people first heard the word in Saving Private Ryan or in a video game mean that it has to be mentioned? Dpv 10:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Movies

message: This article should be merged with FUBAR: The Movie.  I'm a bit of a newbie here and I'm not familiar with how to do that.
Well why do you think that? The term FUBAR is completely different from the movie --Teh darkcloud 22:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with FUBAR: The Movie 

message: Is inclusion of a link to a nightclub's website just advertising?  Is the fact that there is a nightclub called "The Fubar" really relevant? Sdrycroft 11:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think if that nightclub and other places by this name are notable, they should just have their own pages and link back to this article. Milkfish (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of advertising 

message: This page should be merged outright with SNAFU.  The two contain mostly the same information, especially the backstory and the list of related terms.  Failing a full merger, the terms list, at the least, should be transferred to one or the other, or possibly a separate overview page (if there were more related pages, I'd recommend a "Military acronyms/expletives" template, but most of the related terms redirect to SNAFU).
Tom W.M. 17:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger with SNAFU 

message: Why are people such f'ing morons!? 03:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: the only references i see to the definition of tofu are links to this page. can anyone demonstrate its use somewhere? ... aa:talk 06:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "tofu" 

message: Let's make a list of "fuck-ups" that FUBAR can be attributed to
1 - The Millennium Dome —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.30.216.37 (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Applies to 

message: I removed this:
:"It is also possible that foobar is a phonological interpretation of the first letters of the Runic alphabet. Like Qwerty and Abcde, this expression might have attracted various computer programmers. In a museum at Aarhus, there is a large wooden bar with the runic inscription f u þ a r, where fu is pronounced like foo. However, the letter þ is actually pronounced like an unvoiced th, not a b (hence the name Futhark for the Runic alphabet)."
Because, quite simply, this has nothing to do with the origin of FUBAR, which is a simple acronym. It is just slightly within the farthest bounds of possibility that computer programmers with their FOOBAR could have derived terms from the runic alphabet... but the technicians and soldiers who are the original users of FUBAR. Herostratus 07:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  runic yeah right 

message: The statement towards the beginning of the article "for purposes of euphemism, "fucked" is sometimes replaced with "fouled"" is a matter of opinion presented as fact. "Euphemism" means that something bad is stated in a way that makes it sound not so bad, or even rather good. Saying that something is "all fouled up" certainly does not make it sound good, so it cannot be called a euphemism. In reality, "fucked up" is actually a corsened form of "fouled up," since "fouled," having come from Middle English, is a much older word than the slang term. The original claim is like saying "negro" is a euphemism for "nigger," when in reality the latter is an offensive corruption of the former. Unless it is known that the "F" in FUBAR and its variants originally stood for "fucked" then it is better to err on the side of caution and use the less offensive equivalent.
TimMagic 20:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: TimMagic is partially correct in what he was saying.  Using the term "euphemism" in this case is incorrect.  A more appropriate term would be "expurgation" or "bowdlerization" (see the 'Variations' section of FUBAR and the introduction to SNAFU). Sigil VII (talk) 16:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Euphemism? 

message: I'm not sure that I beleive that FUBAR was used for a unibus reference. Even if true, Unibus and the PDP-11 arrived far after both the WWII usages of FUBAR, and even most "Computer engineers (esp. those working in the early era of computing)".
Degeldeg 13:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is most definitely not a myth.  You can find it in the VAX-11/780 Hardware Handbook, and indeed it stands for the Failed Unibus Address Register.  (That means it contains the address value that resulted in an access error on the 780 Unibus Adapter.)  However, this is obviously a register name chosen to produce that acronym.  So there's no reason to describe this as a "claim" of "early era" computer engineers. Paul Koning 22:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unibus reference sounds like a myth 

message: Am I misreading this?
In the "Etymology" section: "The actual origin of the word was developed in the 1960s, as fire departments across the nation began to use the line."
Further down, FUBAR is referenced as having appeared in the 1953 autobiography "Battle Cry" and again lower down in a 1944 novel.
Wouldn't that mean that the "actual origin" of FUBAR predates the 1960s by at least 15 years?
NehpestTheFirst 03:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of the conjecture surrounding its origins, I don't believe that here it could be safely written where the "actual origin of the word was developed."  It looks like this has been changed now. Sigil VII (talk) 16:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A contradiction? 

message: Since the early 60's I became familiar with the FUBAR trio:
SNAFU - Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.
SUSFU - Situation Unchanged, Still Fucked Up.
FUBAR - Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.
These terms were written on inspection slips and/or tags, which were
affixed to pieces of electronic equipment to indicate their current
status.
Dave (talk) 04:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The FUBAR trio 

message: Although i am not sure if i am confusing it with Saving PR, wasnt fubar used ALOT in band of brothers?  If so that could be added to tv/movies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike240se (talk • contribs) 09:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fubar in Band of Brothers 

message: Just out of curiosity: why is "the most common" definition listed third? 71.237.51.115 (talk) 13:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most common 

message: Maybe this link could be added as a citation.
http://catb.org/jargon/html/F/foo.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.192.104.131 (talk) 11:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: The person who coined the term is obviously unknown, but if its wide use 
is to be attributed to this person TAYLOR, we need some serious citing source!
(Dfoofnik undercover)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.234.250 (talk) 01:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really need a citation 

message: This part sounds like nonsense to me. Junuxx (talk) 14:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is nonsense, the editor that added that must have been confused and thinking of Foobar a concept completely unrelated to the acronym FUBAR. L0b0t (talk) 15:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In physics and mathematics, the "fubar" is an imaginary unit of measure" 

message: I have no sources but up to now I thought that it is derived from German "furchtbar" what means "terrible".
Maybe US marines heard it and used it in a similar context. -- 84.63.157.99 (talk) 17:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe German Roots 

message: "FUBAR is slang (mangled German) for the word "Furchtbar," which means terrible or horrible -- the opposite of "Wunderbar." Furcht means fear, literally translated, and the "bar" is added to make it an adverb or noun, as the case may be"
Furchtbar is not a noun, but an adjective. Hence furchtbar (and wunderbar) are both uncapitalised. --134.94.172.55 (talk) 15:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it as a copy-vio and most likely wrong (not only the spelling) anyway. Thanks, TMCk (talk) 15:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Furchtbar is not a noun 

message: the mind grabbing, downstairs leading tv series "twilight zone" is not good for everyone, but contains some information.  there is some psycho stuff in it - truth covered with dark marketing.
once i saw a epistode about a marien having a drink in a bar telling his zippo is the only one left or so from his team of nightcrawlers.  soldieres of vietnam war.  i just wanted to mention.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.250.177.57 (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Twilight Zone" TV Series Episore - "the lurking horror", "nightcrawlers" 

message: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FUBAR closed as no consensus on 18 February 2012. The closing admin noted that several editors suggested a merger, but there was no consensus for a specific target.
I propose that FUBAR, BOHICA, SNAFU, and TARFU be merged either to Military slang or to a new page created for the purposed. I would suggest that others !vote specify their preference for merger to Military slang, to a new page, to another existing page, or opposed to merging, but of course any other options are welcome.
(Note that TARFU redirects to Tarfu – or did do, until I added the merge template – which is currently a DAB, but historically was a definition: Things Are Really Fucked Up.) Cnilep (talk) 05:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: Another editor has proposed redirecting List of military slang terms, which was created as a result of this discussion, to Wiktionary. Please see Talk:List of military slang terms and contribute to the discussion. Cnilep (talk) 00:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect to Wiktionary