Talk:Liberal elite

message: I couldn't find a significant U.S. literature using this concept (by name), although Australians and some Europeans are all over it. I think that the definition's reference to "New Class" attempts to provide a theoretical basis to this term which either does not exist, or has not yet been identified.  The text accompanying the "New Class" section is so robust (right or wrong) that it requires a citation! If no citation can be provided, the section should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badilejo (talk • contribs) 16:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "New Class Discourse" NEEDS footnotes/references 

message: I've never heard anyone in Ireland say "smoked salmon liberal", though i have heard "smoked salmon socialist", maybe that should be changed  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.116.178 (talk) 18:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disorganized comments 

message: This association can be applied to suggest that someone is unpatriotic, and disdainful of American life and culture. is this really suitable?
AxiomShell 14:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:NPOV]] violation

message: I've made changes to the intro to correct a couple of obvious errors and better summarise the article
(a) Professional was capitalized for no reason
(b) There was an unsourced and wrong claim about the phrase "liberal elite" originating in C19 Europe, which I removed. Note that the US meaning of liberal is radically different from that of C19 Europe, which alone is sufficient to make the claim nonsense
(c) As the article says, the term elite largely refers to cultural signifiers of various kinds, and not to income.
If other editors disagree, please discuss. But reverting a good faith edit as vandalism is a violation of WP:AGF.JQ (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: Please remember to keep the article encyclopedic and professional, do not put your own opinions in the article, thanks. Buddha24 (talk) 17:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: I have preposed merging the following articles to the LIBERAL ELITE article. 
*Hollywood Left
*Champagne socialist 
*East Coast liberal 
*Gauche caviar
*Limousine liberal 
*San Francisco values 
*Chardonnay socialist 
*Massachusetts liberal 
*Chattering classes
Firstly, they all say much of the same thing and secondly if they were all brought together it would give a worldwide viewpoint into "Liberal elitism" instead of having a US bias. I will copy this message on all the other article talk pages. All discussions should be done on the LIBERAL ELITE talk page so that all discussions are kept together. — Realist2 (Who's Bad?) 05:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi mergers to this article (Discussion closed - No changes being made) 

message: *The merger discussion has been reopened by User Realist2 - despite the consensus not to merge in the subsection immediately above.  Realist2 : has posted the following message to those articles but not here:  I have preposed sic merging the following articles to the LIBERAL ELITE article. </br>* Hollywood Left </br>* Champagne socialist </br>* East Coast liberal </br>* Gauche caviar </br>* Limousine liberal </br>* San Francisco values </br>* Chardonnay socialist </br>* Massachusetts liberal </br>* Chattering classes </br>Firstly, they all say much of the same thing and secondly if they were all brought together it would give a worldwide viewpoint instead into "Liberal elitism" instead of having a US bias. I will copy this message on all the other article talk pages. All discussions should be done on the LIBERAL ELITE talk page so that all discussions are kept together. — Realist2 (Who's Bad?) 05:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  merger discussion reopened 

message: The ability to recognize irony is something you learn in Freshman English.  When you remove the reference to irony, are you claiming that the people who use the term "liberal elite" really are saying that liberals are "the best". 
Also, you still have not offered even one reference to the use of the phrase by someone who is not a conservative. Rick Norwood (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strike while the irony's hot. 

message: Apparently a section on Ireland is needed, see Dublin 4. --Dpr (talk) 13:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: neither ref makes any mention of a liberal elite. The identification of New Labour or Peter Mandelson as 'liberal' is ridiculous, nor is it made by the article cited. the other is a quote by Tom Paulin, where he says that people who call him antisemitic are 'hampstead liberal zionists'.
the rest of the section is just a WP:coatrack for some editor's gripes about 'liberals' (i.e. people who aren't of the right). In other words, what is sourced is irrelevant, what is relevant is unsourced. BillMasen (talk) 16:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: UK section removal

message: Liberal elitists arent just liberal professors, media, Hollywood, etc but there are many think tanks and groups that are referred to as liberal elitists, as well as prominent conspiracy theories such as the NWO, global government, population control, etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.102.239 (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section 

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message: Heard that one used a lot here in Ontario, is it the exact same concept? 
With love, 
( SailingOn (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite the same.  The "liberal elite" are people who graduated from Harvard or Yale or some other top school.  The accusation is that such people do not understand what ordinary Americans want.  The "urban elite" overlaps the first group, but is much larger.  They live in big cities, and the accusation is that such people do not understand what "real" Americans, want.  I imagine you can swap "Americans" for "Canadians" without any serious change.  The problem in the US is that educated people, and city people, seldom vote Republican.  Is there a parallel in Canada? Rick Norwood (talk) 11:48, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The economic situation of rural areas of the United States, and Canada effectively mirror each other. Much of it has been in a state of permanent recession with few jobs available, and shrinking populations. The economic base which exists is radically different from the economic base which exists in urban areas, ergo the political views found are often quite different. I was mostly coming off of the fact that it is called the "metropolitan elite" in the UK(as stated in the beginning of the article). Politically I find Canada isn't as polarised as the United States. Although most rural areas are certainly more conservative than urban areas, they tend to switch who they vote for more often. I live in a deeply conservative county which voted Liberal in the past(although it usually votes conservative). This political divide seems to have started sometime in the 1960's. In this map(the bigger the district, the more "rural" it is to get a sense of the divide in Canada: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Canada_Election_2015_Results_Map.svg
( SailingOn (talk) 03:51, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Urban Elite"