Talk:Lion of Judah

message: Is there a connection between the lion as symbol of Mark and the Lion of Judah in Christian iconography? 
I got the impression, half-remembered from Catholic high school in the dim mists of prehistory, that there is one, but I can't find textual proof of it. --grant (talk) 17:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark the Evangelist 

message: ethiopian arn't even really ethiopians they are abbysinian's, forgive me for mispelling the name but the arabic version is HABESHA which basic means mix-breeds, mix-races  
the history is so long that the west hemsp. have not thought the history of east africa or now KNOW as middle-east, the middle east of the world is in facT ethiopia. to understand the culure of ethiopia, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND SPEAK THE MAIN LAUNGUAGE. AMRAICHA(AMARIC) which breaks it down t you for example, JOSEPH (YASEPH) Which means (LET HIM THINK, A THINKER) Jocob(YACOB) SAME MEANING, the language breaks everything down, that is just a little info, but it is bigger than that, and the other thing is people brag about things, itS human nature to brag about things u have or surrouunded with, but its a fact the east african race never bragged about anything, basically meanning GOD OR GOD MESSANGERs, FOLLOWERS, SLAVES,,,etc DO NOT NEED TO BRAG CAUSE THEY BELIEVE AND KNOW THE TRUTH.(islam (truth))- one god, one being) creator oF ALL
I've seen revisionists attacking Ethiopian history with full fury in the last little while, but this is too much.  There is no way anyone can reasonably deny that the State religion of Ethiopia was Mosa Judaism between about 980 BC and 328 AD.  There are just too many inscriptions, etc. proving otherwise, so don't even attempt to do so.  --ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 00:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By flatly "ignoring" all the massive amounts of evidence that Ethiopians are Semitic and have been strongly influenced by Hebraic religion, culture, and language for millennia, you are in effect declaring that every Ethiopian scholar is a liar.  But I note that this has always been a favorite pastime of armchair critics, who are never likely to set foot anywhere near Ethiopia in their lives, simply because it doesn'y fit in with their own agenda, therefore all evidence must be brushed aside or pretended not to exist.  ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 20:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually you don't have any bit of evidence that supports your notion that the Hebraic tradition began in 328 AD.  The evidence that it began 1200 years before that is tradition, that you are sweeping aside, hence calling Ethiopians liars, because you in your armchair "know better" about their history than Ethiopian historians do.  Yawn, heard it all many times before, but doesn't change the truth.  Yup, all the races of Hebraic elements in Ethiopia were invented in 328 AD, because Ethiopians are not to be trusted.  Didn't Mussolini say something along those lines?  As for assuming what other people think, your last sentence is a perfect example of you assuming what I think. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

text: The Jewish identity is the very centerpiece of Ethiopian identity, and yes, I very definitely must question your motives and the motives of anyone else who seeks to attack this.  It is quite obvious what you are doing.  You are claiming yourself to be the expert, and stating that "all tradition is worthless".   Your western secular tradition may be wothless, but Ethiopian tradition is not worthless.  There is the tradition of circumcising the son on the 8th day.  I suppose this came only in 328?  There is the tradition of observing the Sabbath on Saturday.  Oh, yeah, it's just a tradition, so its worthless.  There is the tradition of dividing the Churches into 3 sections following the pattern of the Jewish Temple.  Oh, yeah, you just said all Ethiopian traditions are worthless to the enlightened historian, we have your authority to go on for that.  There is the tradition of baptizing sons on 40 days after birth, and girls 80 days, per Leviticus.  Oh, yeah, they had to have learned that from the Greeks, who were the only intelligent influence on the Africans.  (yawn).  Even the Leviticus tradition of separating foods into 'clean' and 'unclean' is still practised. Then there is the tradition of deep veneration for the Ark of the Covenant.  But we already know what you, the skeptic, think about that: It's just another tradition, meaningless for the historian with his own agenda.  Guess what, the Ethiopian people firmly believe that they got all these traditions because they converted from Judaism to Christianity in the year 328.  But that doesn't fit in with what you're pushing, does it, so it's gotta go, huh...   Of course there is a significant body of people who never converted, who have all these same Hebraic traditions I just listed and then some, but then, since they're just traditions, and you yourself stated that traditions are worthless as evidence, this requires that we assume they became Jews in the year 328 as some sort of coverup plot to go along with all the rest of it, because it's all a mass lie on the part of the entire Ethiopian populace that there were ever any connections with Israel.  You sit in your armchair and like to think you know a lot about the world, but clearly there is a lot you still do not understand.  ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 23:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopian history 

message: Is "LION PASSANT" same as "LION OF JUDAH" ?85.94.116.153 (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heraldry 

message: An article on the Lion of Judah Society could be created . Or a sentence or two here. --Dorpater (talk) 20:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lion of Judah Society 

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message: * Why is the Lion of Babylon mentioned here? Is it at all relevant? According to what source? Unless one of the referenced sections argues for a connection, the section should be deleted. There's a separate article on the Lion of Babylon so deleting the section here would not erase the topic from Wikipedia entirely. If there is a source which argues for a connection, the connection should be explained in order to clarify the relevance of this material to this article. – Scyrme (talk) 19:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lion of Babylon