Talk:Adam Giambrone

message: How come it does not state anywhere in the article that Adam Giambrone is openly gay?99.248.151.13 (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no actual media sources that can be cited for it. Bearcat (talk) 22:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When I read other celebrities' personal information, not every single fact about that person is sourced.  Why does this have to be? 99.248.151.13 (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BLP. Like it or not, sexuality is still a loaded enough topic in today's society that we have to be much stricter about sourcing it properly than is required for some other details — it's the kind of thing we can get sued over if we get it wrong or if we out somebody who was in the closet, so we have to have a blanket "give an airtight source for it or don't mention it at all" rule. Bearcat (talk) 23:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Another, more logical reason is that, in fact, he isn't gay.--Abebenjoe (talk) 15:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He clarified in a recent interview that he is not gay, which should settle this issue http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/744841--giambrone-laughs-over-outing-in-magazineSteve Joseph (talk) 19:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Indeed, eh? Precisely why we can't add it to articles on mere presumptions of "common knowledge". Bearcat (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay

message: Could someone edit this into the article? It contains very significant revelations which could impact Toronto's mayoral elections.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/762532--adam-giambrone-says-sorry-for-affair-with-young-woman?bn=1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.124.152 (talk) 13:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Affair

message: This is hardly a sex scandal. The word "scandal" sells newspapers, or at least increases online traffic at the papers' websites. The guy had sex with several women. He isn't married. Let's not sensationalize this. -- Flyguy649 talk 20:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the definition on both Oxford and Dictionary.com, 'scandal' can be defined as "an offense caused by a fault or misdeed", "damage to reputation; public disgrace" or "an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage"; I hereby request that the word be placed back within this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.254.101.141 (talk) 03:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The word hasn't been removed from the article; it's still present in several places in body text. The only place it's been removed is from one headline where it's inappropriately salacious without adding anything of actual value to the article structure. Bearcat (talk) 03:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice the papers have now turned this into a scandal. Meh. They forgot to get my approval to use the word ;)  The article will, I'm sure, get tweaked over the next little while. Bearcat, I agree "scandal" doesn't need to be in the header but is appropriate as used within the body. -- Flyguy649 talk 03:38, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, as near as I can tell the only useful reason for having a "Sex scandal" or "Mayoral campaign and Sex Scandal" header would be to ensure that the word scandal is visible in the highest possible font size so that he gets branded with it like a cow's ranchmark. Which would be a rank WP:NPOV failure, obviously. Bearcat (talk) 04:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

text: It would be a scandal if Giambrone was married, had children, and if partner had given up her own life to support his career, and if he wasn't barely 30. "Sex controversy" is a more reasonable description. Why the newspapers shout "scandal" in "War breaks out!" headlines should go on the talk page for Tabloid_journalism.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.27.19 (talk) 22:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry, I just read the article for the first time and changed controversy to scandal before I saw this talk topic. I will change it bck now. Itabletboy (talk) 02:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex "scandal" 

message: The chances of Giambrone leaving Cabinet in City Council are basically zero. Speculation is sourced only to his assistant acknowledging that the registration to run for re-election for a fall election has not yet been filed. Leave this out until an announcement is made either way. Speculation does not belong in Wikipedia and violates the rules: Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball.
The speculation is also improbable. There is no observation on the Barack Obama article that he hasn't yet announced having registered to run for re-election in 2012 elections, or speculation that he might not seek re-election. Giambrone is in cabinet and is managing many key transit projects, and is speculation "his career is over" doesn't belong in an encyclopedia unless it were to actually happen. This is a living person and the reference is not far from being libelous.
From Wikipedia policies on living persons:
"Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects must be considered when exercising editorial judgment."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.198.8.57 (talk) 08:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation on exit from city council 

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Pls talk about changes you wish to implement. There is clearly a point of view dispute...lets bring our views on the subject here. Discuss  them and come to a consensus on what should' and should not be mentioned and the tone in which  it is mentioned !!..Buzzzsherman (talk) 20:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
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