Talk:Game try

message: I absolutely agree with the merge and I will do it. The situation arose because I didn't manage to find this article when I searched for game trial bid so I created a new one ... when I found this one I realised it was what I was seeking. As a first stage of merging I have revamped this article and will soon merge the other bits into it. Abtract 10:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have completed the merge, made the redirect and removed the tags - I presume its OK to remove your tags? maybe I should have checked the rules . If there is a problem please put me straight. Abtract 10:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I was busy so I just put the tags, hoping you would notice. All right now. Duja 12:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I propose we delete the 'Fourth suit forcing' and 'Stayman' text under the header Other methods of "trying" for game These methods are totally unrelated to game trials. 213.93.108.158 15:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: but they are quite closely related, sufficiently so to merit mention in this article since their purpose is often to seek the best game contract (not always I agree). it is surely better to err on the side of too much info rather than too little? Abtract 18:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Invitation: A bid which invites the partner to bid on to game or slam if he has extra values. It is a non-forcing bid by definition. Compare semi-forcing bid.
That is one of the shortest entries beside cross-references. It makes "invitation" natural by definition, and it excludes major suit game tries in the sense of this article whether they are natural or not.
Section 5 Game try#Other methods of "trying" for game does seem out of place here. Along with the current lead sentence ("a bid that shows interest in bidding a game and asks partner to help in making the decision"), it interprets "game try" in a general way while the body of this article --like the Glossary-- makes it a technical term.
On the other hand, the 1984 Encyclopedia (OEB4, cited below) does not contain any 'game try' entry under G --only HSGT, SSGT, WSGT, and 'Two-way game tries'.
--P64 (talk) 01:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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message: :::I propose we delete the 'Fourth suit forcing' and 'Stayman' text under the header Other methods of "trying" for game These methods are totally unrelated to game trials. 213.93.108.158 15:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: but they are quite closely related, sufficiently so to merit mention in this article since their purpose is often to seek the best game contract (not always I agree). it is surely better to err on the side of too much info rather than too little? Abtract 18:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Invitation: A bid which invites the partner to bid on to game or slam if he has extra values. It is a non-forcing bid by definition. Compare semi-forcing bid.
That is one of the shortest entries beside cross-references. It makes "invitation" natural by definition, and it excludes major suit game tries in the sense of this article whether they are natural or not.
Section 5 Game try#Other methods of "trying" for game does seem out of place here. Along with the current lead sentence ("a bid that shows interest in bidding a game and asks partner to help in making the decision"), it interprets "game try" in a general way while the body of this article --like the Glossary-- makes it a technical term.
On the other hand, the 1984 Encyclopedia (OEB4, cited below) does not contain any 'game try' entry under G --only HSGT, SSGT, WSGT, and 'Two-way game tries'.
--P64 (talk) 01:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Other methods of "trying" for game