Talk:CrossIron Mills

message: I tagged it because of its "promotional" flavour—at the moment it sounds like a prospectus prepared by the real estate developer. It needs to be rewritten so that it is NPOV, all statements are sourced, and the tone is encyclopedic—then of course it can stay. Hurdle to be mastered: finding verifiable sources for any assertions made that do not simply amount to taking the word of the backers of the project on faith.
At present it sounds like advertising because the statements about what features it "will" have are not (yet) verifiable facts, but simply someone's promises. These "not yet facts" need to be rephrased along the lines of: "According to statements by XYZ Corp. and ABC Regional Economic Development Commission, the backers of the project, the mall will have …" Statements like this are verifiable; one just needs to cite mainstream media (typically a reputable newspaper—promotional materials or company websites are not enough) showing that spokespersons for XYZ and ABC did in fact make such public statements.
Since you say you'll fix it, I'll remove the speedy-delete tag and replacing it with "sounds like advertising" tag pending rework. --IslandGyrl 19:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite to avoid a promotional flavour

message: I have added a Controversy section (not really promotional) as well external links to an article on Canada.com (which i hope would be a reliable resource).--Gaeriel 20:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Added New Sections

message: I am going to remove the {Advertising} tag on this page. I re-worked it as to not sound like a rep is advertising this project. More information has been added for neutrality.--Gaeriel 17:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal 

message: Wow, this is a dittly of a pickel. What i have done is add all the new information from your article and put it into this one. We will keep one of the articles and then redirect yours the the new revampt one. I will leave it to you to change the article that you have started. Sound good? P.S. Make sure to leave your signature in the discussion so we know who said what :) --Gaeriel 15:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trying to Fix 

message: Thanks, looks like its been sorted out. Really appreciate the help. Will fix up the article.--68.147.194.28 02:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Much Better

message: I did a little checking, and as near as I can tell, if one doesn't count cases where malls have been reconstructed (i.e. Franklin Mall becoming Pacific Place Mall, and Dragon City in Chinatown was reconstructed from a previous development), Crossiron will be the first enclosed mall built in the Calgary region since Calgary Eaton Centre. I've added this to the article, however if anyone can cite a shopping mall newer than 1990, please do so. Given how much Calgary has become "power centre" happy in the last decade -- Crowfoot, Deerfoot Meadows and Shawnessy would have been major Chinook/Southcentre-style malls had they been developed 30 years ago -- I think this is a fact that is notable and worth including in this article. 68.146.47.196 20:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First real mall since 1990

message: Is this still correct? I drove by the site only a few days ago and it's not even a hole in the ground; real construction hasn't even started yet. Is the mall still expected to be up and running next year? I would expect 2009 to be a more realistic target. 68.146.41.232 16:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008 opening?

message: The two site plan PDF links are no longer active and it appears all IC has on their site now is a brief description of the project. Does anyone know if these PDFs have been archived anywhere? 68.146.41.232 (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead links

message: I've made a few updates and changes as the opening date (now a done deal) approaches. The UHA racetrack is not "on hold" as an earlier revision stated, though it's got money problems delaying its completion; I added a Calgary Herald article citation. Also, when the mall does open, the list of stores included in this article should be vetted against what actually opens in the mall. The official website actually has a full store list already, but I'd still suggest waiting till the mall actually opens in case any of the chains vanish between now and then. Also, I'm starting to hear the name "Mallzac" being used here and there as a nickname. It's too early to include this in the article as it's an obvious neologism right now, but if the nickname picks up cachet it'll be worth noting. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 00:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates and revisions

message: It's too early to add this to the story right now, but reading some of the reader comments in the Herald, and elsewhere, there seems to be the potential for controversy over issues such as "carbon footprint" with the mall (even though you'd think a power centre that forces people to drive between stores would generate more; think about it). Not that i expect to see pickets out there or anything, but once the mall opens and the reaction starts to be noted in the media, it might be worth keeping an eye on. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible controversy aspect to watch

message: This article should be moved to CrossIron Mills (with capital I) because that's the correct spelling of the mall. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 15:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Though it is no secret what I think of manuals of style, I agree with moving it to CrossIron Mills. Even the provincal government, via the signs over the highway, calls it CrossIron. That would IMO make it a proper name and not a "styled as" . delirious & lost ☯ ~нuɢѕ~ 13:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title

message: I removed the entire controversy section. Given that nobody has been able to find citations since these were requested back in, and I'm not kidding, August 2011, it seemed that the article was giving undue weight to the section. I don't live in Airdrie or Calgary and have never been to this mall. If someone can find citations for the controversy, it can certainly be restored. --Yamla (talk) 13:27, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

message: The following sentence appears in the intro paragraph: "It's the first Mills-type mall to be opened since Pittsburgh Mills in 2005 and the 2007 demise of the predecessor, the Mills Corporation." There's no indication what a "Mills-type mall" is, and it's not clear from context. Could someone clarify or reword this, please? --Yamla (talk) 13:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved. Removed as part of copyvio investigation. --Yamla (talk) 18:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mills-type mall? 

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