Talk:Honda CBX

message: I have templated the lede as  as the source is an unreliable insurance business which editors assume to be accurate and find by keyword searching, instead of finding historic hard-publications from industry-experts. My use of a similar template elsewhere was knee-jerk reverted by an editor also associated with this article, and I am expecting much the same behaviour.This should highlight whether Wikipedia is to continue being dominated by editors abusing WP:VNT. This needs to go to WP:RSN for Carole Nash and the similar unreliable business (reverted elsewhere) Bennetts (or AN/I for the reversions) but I am unable to contribute the time. Continuation will just give more confidence to those removing legitimate templating and who are determined to WP:OWN the articles.The first year should be 1978 - I don't like using Youtube but it is from a highly-reputable source, near the back of the film (18 minutes), relating to travelling marshal Albert Moule. Pinging  who introduced the weblink citation. I tried to find unequivocal evidence some years ago but only a pic of Hailwood crossing the line on the 1978 Ducati F1 with a CX500 in background was found (about 60 yards from me, so I knew where the bikes were stationed). I have an historic citation for the use of CX500s which were unsuitable being too slow, topping out at 100mph, less than a 125 racer.The youtube film is also evidence that the Isle of Man TT races had many mass-starts on the Snaefell Mountain Course, which for the uninitiated may be unclearly/ambiguously presented on WP as a time trial. Semi-mass starts were used in the 1950s for the Clubmens' races, flagged-off in groups of four requiring kick-starting.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 19:03, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking for a decent reference. I know the CBX bike were used by marshalls as I was there and I saw them! For the time being, this site: https://twitter.com/IOMTMs has a picture of one. Arrivisto (talk) 08:46, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have now found a 1980 pic of Mike Hailwood on the CB900 Marshal's bike at Fickr. This chap has allowed my to use some of his images a few years ago and is very reliable with his details (c:Category:Images by bebopalieuday) but when I requested to use some more from his early prints (necessitating changing the licence) about 18 months ago the reaction had changed. I therefore haven't requested any since, but I have sent thanks for the SMBH image together with some background info (the pillion was second-choice as the original winner had stomach ulcers and was not confident of the outcome after a lap at race speeds and donated the prize back to MCN). I've no reason to conclude there were any CBXs used in 1980. Carole Nash's disclaimer can be found here. rgds,--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 20:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede content year-date wrong 

message: They used the then-new CB900F - Motorcycle News ran a competition where the winner rode a lap pillion to Mike Hailwood. The winner suffered with abdominal ulcers and, fearing for any adverse reaction to the experience, donated his win back to be re-allocated. MCN carried an action pic with a towel or similar covering the seat, with the winner describing sliding, particularly under braking. The CB900F was released late 1979, and it couldn't have been 1981 as Hailwood died in March, before the June races. Regrettably I sold the 'paper about 10 years ago.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1980 TT Marshal bike