Talk:Schutzstaffel/Archive 2

message: With the addition of the SS Medical Corps section, the article's content is at a complete phase.  I encourage veryone to begin the process towards Featured Article status.  Inputs and comments are welcome (as would a nomination). -Husnock 17Mar05
:Husnock, thanks, yes, it is coming close to the quality needed for a featured article. I have to make a thorough check though. Andries 23:54, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Self nominated the article today.  Let's make it happen! -Husnock 22:10, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Path to featured article

message: Good point about that...A pictures we shall add! -Husnock 23:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Another point, poorly covered, are the many non German SS and Waffen SS units, curtly subsumed under "Germanic SS" in the current version.
Ukrainian and Baltic SS units guarded concentration camps, Caucasian and Turkic Waffen SS troops fought on the Eastern front. None of these were particularly "Germanic"
A few further points, possibly worth mentioning, are Lebensborn and the various SS-Junkerschulen. Refdoc 00:18, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  non German SS 

message: An admin choose to cancel the FAC nomination after less than four days.  Not nearly enough time, in my opinon to make the changes.  At least a week should be given, Ive seen some articles remain on FAC nomination for two weeks.  I plan to make the changes and resubmit.  Thanks for everyone's input. -Husnock 18:21, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only Four Days? 

message: One of the reasons why I think this article is not super good is that it is a bit messy because the subject is large and complicated. I propose splitting the article in Organizational structure of the SS following the German language example. Andries 17:27, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am very much opposed to splitting the SS article up into smaller ones, although the major portions, such as Waffen-SS, Allgemeine-SS, and so on can have main articles linked in.  Any further than that and this article runs teh risk of simply becoming one big disambig page. -Husnock 02:54, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Split the article?

message: Someone should take all the things that are not verified and put them at the end of the article in a Myths section.  Discuss whether or not to put something there, then put there or don't.  This is especially important on a topic with so much discrepency (sp?).
:What "myths" are you referring to? -Husnock 18:24, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myths 

message: Inclucing the vote of the proposer of the vote, 11 people voted. 3 (that is, including the proposer of the vote) supported the move. Vote results:
* 3 votes out of 11 support the move = 27% < 60%, so No Move is the result of the vote.
Trying to help out with the present backlog of WP:RM, I remove the vote topic from that page. --Francis Schonken 16:50, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote Count, 11 days after start of vote

message: For those who don't know, the article on SS ranks was hit heavy and hard by a user (who has since been blocked) who was adding non-existent SS ranks.  I invite everyone to please visit this deletion vote to help us clear some of this off of Wikipedia.  Thanks -Husnock 18:20, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion Invite

message: Theories also exist that Himmler did not see Jews as the only race deemed worthy of extermination. Documents from 1943 and 1944 indicate Himmler had discussed privately, with certain top SS leaders and perhaps even Hitler, the idea of continuing the Holocaust to include blacks and Orientals. These ideas were obviously kept very quiet, since Japan at the time was a major ally of Germany.
This paragraph either needs a direct citation to what historians postulated, and with what evidence they postulated, such examples of a possible idea had for a continuation of the holocaust to blacks or orientals, or should be considered POV conjecture. I think the paragraph otherwise should be removed. The SS had published propaganda works favoring the Japanese race, even before joining the Axis, for example. I've also read works claiming the SS foresaw a slave nation of Russians in the east; though I cannot even vouch for the authenticity of such a statement, however I myself have read nothing to seriously denote a plan of continuation for the holocaust to other ethnicities beyond those considered "alien" within Germany itself. Nagelfar 15:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-cited conjecture 

message: The symbol of the Schutzstaffel is similar to the swastika in that they both show alphabetic lettering. The swastika, although it was an ancient symbol, was used sometimes by the National Socialist German Workers Party to represent overlapping “S” letters for their “socialism,” as shown in medals, banners, flags, stamps, etc by Dr. Rex Curry. The same symbolism is shown in Hitler’s own bizarre signature, which Hitler altered to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist," and in Hitler turning the symbol 45 degrees to the horizontal and eventually pointing all uses to the right to highlight the S letter, and similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.
::What's bizarre about the Sütterlin script Hitler used in his signature?  It's simply a manner or writing.Michael Dorosh 01:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more ideas for article 

message: The first paragraph of the intro concludes: in which millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Russians and Roma were killed.  Gypsies and Roma, isn't that redundant? Sumergocognito 20:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gypsies and Roma