Talk:Whitby, Ontario

message: User:RickHarris deleted the criticism of the town paper for being too right-wing. I personally believe this criticism is valid, as I have heard it repeated by many citizens, as well as in letters to the editor of the paper. Every federal or provincial election, the Whitby This Week has run prominently-placed editorials by the editor of the paper endorsing the Conservative candidate. I think this consistent backing of Conservative candidates reveals a certain bias. Inanechild 17:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What does the paper's bias have to do with the town itself? The reference should be removed and kept out. Daveharr 19:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Right-Wing Whitby This Week

message: I deleted the implication that more townhouses, resulting in more lower-income families, are responsible for the rise in youth crime in Whitby. Not only is this an unsourced generalization, but the vast majority of townhouses are being built in affulant suburbs, especially north Whitby, and can hardly be considered low-income developments. Inanechild 16:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Hooliganism"

message: This section has been temporarily removed from the main article. Sources need to be verified. Relevant information needs to be worked into appropriate sections of the main article. Flibirigit 17:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The town is often criticized for its failure to uphold the principles of smart growth, with urban sprawl becoming an increased problem.  
** This paragraph should be incorportated into a Transportation section of the main article. Flibirigit 17:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local Problems 

message: The population of Whitby listed disagrees with itself in the opening paragraph and the infobox.  Also, it is referred to as both a city and a town in the same article.  (it is officially "The Town of Whitby"; I do not know if it has the population to be a Census Metropolitan Area which makes it a city no matter what they want to call it)
--72.137.11.195 03:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing that out. I have changed the population to 116,000 estimated in 2005, according to the Town of Whitby web site. Unfortunately the 2006 Census results are not yet published. Flibirigit 05:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The question is what would such a change be based upon.  Whose estimate is it?  Can we provide the world with a reference/citation?  We don't bother with population signs because they're always general estimates, and sometimes disagree between each other. On the other hand, if the Town of Whitby has posted an estimate, then it's worth considering.  PKT(alk) 20:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Is there a source for the following statement in the article?
"When the township was originally surveyed in 1792, the surveyor, from the northern part of England, named the townships east of Toronto after towns in North Eastern England: York, Scarborough, Pickering, Whitby and Darlington."
It disagrees with the following cited statement from the Scarborough article:
"The area was named after Scarborough, Yorkshire, England by Elizabeth Simcoe, the wife of John Graves Simcoe, the first lieutenant governor of Upper Canada. The bluffs along Scarborough's Lake Ontario shores reminded her of the limestone cliffs in Scarborough, England. On 4 August 1793, she wrote in her diary, "The shore is extremely bold, and has the appearance of chalk cliffs, but I believe they are only white sand. They appeared so well that we talked of building a summer residence there and calling it Scarborough."[3] Before then, the area was named Glasgow, after the Scottish community.[4]"
Growing up in Scarborough, I was also taught in school that Scarborough was named by Elizabeth Simcoe, not by a surveyor.
JeffHagan (talk) 16:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point. I have a source, and it says that York, Scarborough et al were named by the surveyor, but there's another book outlining place names in Ontario that goes with the Simcoe story. I'll try to dig a bit. Blotto adrift (talk) 16:06, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Shouldn't the listing for 'famous residents' for Andrew Martin be "Andrew Martin", and not his ring name, "Test"?  I think it ought to be anyway.  Nonpoint74 (talk) 15:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Test/Andrew Martin

message: Whitby may or may not be a suburb of Oshawa, but if we're disputing it we should be citing a reference to back it up.  Please do so rather than starting up some pointless edit war.
Personally, I think it's a stretch---Whitby's population isn't much smaller than Oshawa's, and (these days especially) it's considered a bedroom community of Toronto.  Acidtoyman (talk) 11:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suburb of Oshawa? 

message: It is true that Whitby is on Lake Ontario, and that there is a marina for recreational boaters, but it is not a commercial port, and probably the vast majority of the population have never been to the marina, and may not even know that there is one.
The only two pictures show pictures of boats. There is a nice-looking new library, and the downtown core has heritage buildings that are scenic in the summer weather. Having pictures of boats, only, gives an unrepresentative impression of Whitby. The two boat pictures are fine, but there should be a few others. There is a new addition to the major sports complex which is photogenic. Maybe somebody could add some more pictures that are not pictures of boats. 77Mike77 (talk) 03:24, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free to take photos and add them. Blotto adrift (talk) 21:34, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boat pictures only? 

message: User:Magnolia677 deleted this paragraph from the history section "In April of 1867 a police office was established in Whitby with Alexander Cameron as Chief Constable. Later that year Cameron was suspended for leading a group of men to burn down a black man's house. Some Whitby council members protested his suspension claiming he "had done the town a good service in removing such a nuisance."" Here is a link to this citation http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=1018829
Magnolia677 claims that "this edit is misleading and without context; the source doesn't specify the "nuisance," the man or the shanty?"
However, considering the man is specifically referred to as a negro, it is clear that his race was a determining factor for why the illegal mob, lead by the police Chief Constable, burned down his shanty. If the Whitby councillors were defending the police Chief merely because the shanty was a nuisance, why would they not have dealt with the nuisance through the property owner? Clearly the police Chief was acting extra-judiciously with racist intentions, and the fact that some Whitby councillors defended his actions supports their complicity in racism. It is therefore not controversial or biased to merely state the facts found in a historical book written by one of Whitby's historians. Brian Winter's work is cited elsewhere in this article so I do not know why this particular paragraph is being censored.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deeve420 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Deeve420 unearthed this historic article listing 12 obscure items of trivia about Whitby (one item was of a women who hanged herself in jail because of "temporary insanity due to temperance").  User:Deeve420 then cherrypicked a racist anecdote to include in this article about Whitby.  The truth of this edit will need additional sources to verify, otherwise it is WP:UNDUE and incorrectly adds a racist tone to the history of Whitby.  Do not revert until a consensus is reached!  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitby Police 1867 Racial Tensions 

message: This article begins with European settlement in the area and lacks any background on what came before Whitby, how the lands were acquired, or who the original residents of the land are. Maybe somebody who knows more about this than me could make those relevant additions.
99.237.71.86 (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indigenous History