Talk:Freemasonry

message: ' 2603:6010:C0F0:1520:901D:75BB:C04F:F46F (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: How do i get books 47.161.69.253 (talk) 23:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Library… Amazon… suggest “Freemasons for Dummies” (seriously… it’s a great introduction, and has a good list of further books). Blueboar (talk) 23:12, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Want be a member  

message: There are mix-gendered lodges spawned by the International Order of the Human Right (French "Droit Humain" mostly French speaking ones) in North America, as well as the genuine American Co-Masonry (English speaking). One can also find French speaking mix-gendered lodges in Canada, especially the under the custody of the Supreme Council of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Québec. This canadian obedience has some links with the Grand Orient de France, but still uses the compulsory invocation to the Great Architect of the Universe and opens rituals with St-John's Gospel or the book of Kings from the Bible depending on the degrees.
Women can freely be accepted into these Lodges in North America, as well as men and people of all races and colors. Hpm29 (talk) 23:14, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe these are mentioned in the Droit Humain article, and might be included in the List of Masonic Grand Lodges. I don’t think this article should mention them.  This article is designed to be a “broad brush” overview - a beginners guide, if you will… it’s a starting point for those searching for more info. It’s not really the right place to mention every small faction of the fraternity that exists in every country.  We have other articles and sub-articles for that. Blueboar (talk) 13:30, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Well, no. There is no such thing as "mixed gendered lodges." There are all kinds of groups who practice Masonic rituals, but have zero provenance, association and amity with United Grand Lodge of England, which is the root of the tree, so to speak. All legitamate bodies of Freemasonry have amity (friendship and recognition) with the United Grand Lodge of England. This includes all jurisditions in the USA, Canada, Australia, western Europe, and others. Pedigee matters. There are a lot of so-called "masonic" organizations that have no pedigree from the real and original Masonic pedigree. Kornbelt888 (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixed gender Masonry in North America 

message: There really isn't an article that I can find where Masonic degrees as rituals are discussed. This is definitely a significant oversight in the encyclopedia nature of our coverage on this topic.
It seems there used to be an article but it got merged in here. Jjazz76 (talk) 00:40, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you thinking of Masonic ritual and symbolism? There are two major problems with crafting an article about the rituals … the first is finding reliable academic type sources to support it. The second is that there isn’t any standardization in Masonry - the rituals performed in one lodge or jurisdiction are often radically different from the rituals performed in another. This means that anything we can reliably verify has to be hedged as being specific to a particular lodge or Jurisdiction. Blueboar (talk) 12:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It would seem to me the York Rite Craft Degrees, which are very common in the US, basically appear nowhere in any of the articles. There are plenty of sources about them. Jjazz76 (talk) 04:45, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure what “York Rite Craft Degrees” are.  In the US, the York Rite degrees are considered supplemental to the Craft Degrees. They are separate things. Blueboar (talk) 13:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masonic Degrees 

message: the current link does not describe anything to do with Freemasonry. Please change the link from G to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Masonic_abbreviations#:~:text=with%20a%20G.-,G.,Grand%20Architect%20of%20the%20Universe. I would do so myself but my wiki-fu is admittedly not strong enough. 2603:800C:3D00:1ED2:F81D:98FA:D56:FB1A (talk) 05:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please change letter G redirect 

message: The article is not very helpful in helping the readers understand what Freemasonry actually is. The three introductory paragraphs only focus on organizational structure and differences within Freemasonry, but leave aside the primary question of what the modern freemasonry is all about. There should at least be an attempt to answer this fundamental question in the introduction. ---bssasidhar- >Talk Page 08:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Unclear 

message: It is clear to me that freemasonry, a kind of fraternal organization with some secret rituals, code of conducts, and belief system; originated historically from stonemasonry. However, what is not clear to me that whether these 2 group of peoples are overlapping (as in venn diagram) or mutually exclusive. I know there are freemasons who are not stonemassons. But are there any stonemasons who are NOT associated with freemasonry by any means? or all stonemasons are mandated to go through freemasonry??
Please make this clear in the article.  
2409:40E1:100D:518E:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment.  Historically, all stonemasons were Freemasons and all Freemasons were stonemasons (the two terms meant the same thing).  However, beginning in the late 1500s and early 1600s they slowly drifted apart. Today they are separate.  So… today, while there are some stonemasons who are Freemasons, it isn’t automatic… and most stonemasons likely are not Freemasons. Blueboar (talk) 21:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are all stonemasons a part of freemasonry?