Talk:Personal weapon

message: I restored the stub status despite the length of the article since it is still incomplete. I want to encourage addition of weapons to this list by others with something to contribute. Leonard G. 23:55, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: stub status

message: Should Blackjack and brass knuckles be limited lethality weapons?  It seems to me people their main advantages are cost and size in relation to deadliness. -LtNOWIS 06:52, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled

message: Should the section on the sword really say "Obsolete"? The war hammer is, too, and it isn't used as much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.215.203.194 (talk) 20:03, January 19, 2006‎  (UTC)
:I agree completely, i will add a sword section! George the Hippy 01:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sword 

message: Most of the sections in this article could have "Main article" tags added to them. I've done this with "Knife." This is done by adding text like this:  as the first line of the section. KarlBunker 20:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Main article" tags 

message: Following was contributed via IP some time ago and recently deleted (I agree that it does not belong here). It needs a home - e.g some sort of martial arts defense article (images would help). Can anyone find a home for this text? 
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The knife is to be stabbed or sliced at the opponent in close quarters combat and self defense. The main attack should be a stab, as that does not allow the opponent to get a strike in before the user can regain his guard. A slicing is appropriate only if the user is entangled with the opponent in a wrestling style fight. Slashing or chopping with the knife should not be done as it is easy to overpower a strike with such a light weapon, often leaving the chest open for a quick kick or punch from a fast opponent.
When fighting against someone who has a knife, it is far wiser to back out and run. If forced to fight, dodging and avoiding being backed into a corner is all the fighter can do until the opponent makes the mistake of using a slash or chop which, if you are lucky, allows you to kick or punch at the opponents head, and leaving the chest, stomach, and occasionally groin open for a kick or punch. Also, if you are lucky, the opponent will leave the knife arm open, in which case you should throw your bodyweight at him, while using both hands to secure the forearm with the knife. You must then wrench it from his hands quickly in order not to get thrown off by the opponents free hand. From there, the knife can be thrown away or used to gouge the vulnerable opponent beneath you. But remember this is "IF" you are lucky.
In the event the opponent should make the mistake of overpowering a thrust and allowing the hand with the knife to be grabbed. This technique should be done only after practiced. It should be done by pivoting with the hand holding the knife so that the knife is in front of you and the person is behind you, and then holding the knife hand with both hands, giving you control of the knife. This leaves your back vulnerable, so you should move your head to the oppisite side that the knfe is on so as not to get your head pushed into the knife, and then twist the opponents hand so they drop the knife, and then moving away as quickly as you can, kicking the knife in front of you as you do so, so that the knife can then be recovered by you. Remember, this is only in theory, in practice, even professionals like special forces members from the police departments or the military know that is very unlikely that an unarmed man can defeat a knife armed man; it's a 50% survival chance for a trained professional and almost 0% for an average person.
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- Leonard G. 03:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This text does not belong in Wikipedia. It has no references, no documentable facts and has some rather vague statements. For example, what is the difference between "slicing" and "slashing"? Really, the lack of references alone is sufficient to disqualify it from Wikipedia. Dwane E Anderson (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Knife use and defense