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Talk:Frank McGee (ice hockey)

message: Hey there, I edited this article as part of the GOCE March 2023 Drive. Pinging @Kaiser matias, who made the request.
My edits related to copy editing for MOS, clarity, and conciseness. I did a bit of trimming of repetitive or redundant information.
I have some notes related to edits that might require extra attention or consultation of sources. Some are edits I didn't feel comfortable making due to my unfamiliarity with aspects of the subject. Some of these might seem pedantic, but I guess that's why I'm here. :] If there are any issues or questions about my edits or these points, don't hesitate to reach out.
* I've done my best to clean up this issue, but it may require more work.
:* A portion of this article was plagiarized nearly verbatim without correct attribution. More information about these guidelines can be found at WP:PLAGIARISM, including the advice that states that "No in-text attribution, no quotation marks, text closely paraphrased, inline citation only" is unacceptable.
:* Here is the comparison after my revisions.
* It would be great if "senior" could be defined in this article. Not sure if it's a Canadian thing or a hockey history thing, but I'm unfamiliar with the term. Either way, a wikilink (Senior ice hockey?) or ~five-word description could go a long way for contextualizing McGee's career. For example, in these sentences, I don't understand the meaning or importance of the word "senior":
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* While I was cursorily checking this sentence's source to see if I could reword it, I couldn't find evidence of its claim on the referenced page.
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* Add pronoun to this sentence:
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:: possibly to
:* The Battalion left for England in May 1915, and after spending the summer there, it (The Batallion)/he (McGee) was transferred to the Western Front in France on September 14, 1915.
* Clarify this sentence:
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:* He also played in all four 1903 Stanley Cup challenge games, scoring seven more goals and tying Jack Marshall for lead goalscorer of the season/series.
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:* He also played in all four of Ottawa's Stanley Cup challenge games that season, scoring seven more goals and tying Jack Marshall for lead goalscorer of the season/series.
* Clarify?
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:: possibly to
:* During a Stanley Cup challenge against the Toronto Marlboros on February 25, 1904, he scored five goals in one game, setting a new record for most goals in a Cup game. He repeated the feat in a  again scored five goals in one game on March 9 against the Brandon Hockey Club.
:: (Unless the Brandon game was also a Cup game, then I don't think we should call it repeating the feat.)
* Use more active/specific language here than "war broke out", i.e. something akin to "when Canada joined the war".
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* Just double-checking that these are separate facts: he tied Marshall in goals two separate times?
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Wracking 💬 21:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your help here, and for the feedback above. I'll go through it again and ensure everything is cleared up. Kaiser matias (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy editing notes
Talk:David Legwand

message: Does anyone want to help me rewrite this article? It's a little weird that an article about a franchise's all time leading goal scorer/8 year NHL veteran is almost entirely about his two-year career in juniors. Smashville 16:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite... 

message: As stated in the opening paragraph, David Legwand is much, much more notable for his long tenure with the Nashville Predators than for the short period of time he bounced around late in his career. I get that the photo with the Sabres is the most recent one available of him playing hockey, but I feel it would make more sense to see him in a Predators uniform. I did find one good photo of him in a Nashville jersey at Wikimedia Commons, but I want to make sure I'm doing the right call here.
As a hockey fan first who isn't particularly a fan or hater of the Preds themselves, when I think of Legwand, I think of him in a Predators uniform. And when I think of the Predators, he is still one of the names that come to my mind. Florence and the Codeine (talk) 05:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predators photo?
Talk:Dave Schultz (ice hockey)

message: This article cries out for a criticism section. As it is now, it feels like it was written by the Flyers PR department. My memory of those days was not that Schultz was an "enforcer" but rather a goon. The difference being that he started stuff rather than acted to protect his teammates. I can probably add one myself, but I'd anticipate some backlash from Flyer fans. BashBrannigan (talk) 14:18, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: Did a little work on the page, added coaching record.  If anyone feels this isn't relevant feel free to let me know.Yojimbo1941 (talk) 20:19, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating
Talk:Dave Taylor (ice hockey)

message: Dave Taylor holds the career records at Clarkson for Points and Assists but not for goals as stated in the article.  For verification see this address  http://www.clarksonathletics.com/Pdfs/mhock/2005/10/19/100-Point%20Scorers.pdf  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.222.191 (talk) 00:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the record career goal scorer for Clarkson 

message: Marc87 has removed the name, "Dave" from this article, despite the fact it is the name the subject of this article is best known as, both as an NHL player and now, as an NHL executive. Unless there's a reason or Wikipedia policy that I'm not aware of, this edit should be reverted. However, since my next reversion would cause a 3RR violation, I am unable to do so. I am wondering what the justification is for removal of "Dave" from this article, since the editor has provided no justfication for doing so. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 09:20, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "Dave" from article
Talk:Marek Malík

message: Does Marek Malik have a disease or disorder or something else wrong with him? His face is always twitching and stuff. I've watched him do it in person too. He does it all the time and it seems like he can't control it. --Stang281 18:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disease/Disorder/Other?

message: Malik's been called "Harry" since Hartford. The referenced pieces are actually incorrect.
-acidqueen5426  —Preceding undated comment added 00:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've amended the nickname section accordingly, and deleted the links. I realize that Rangers fans think their team is the centre of the hockey universe, but the Rangers players didn't originate the nickname.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acidqueen5426 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Harry" Nickname

message: Gods, we hated this guy in Springfield - he never hit anyone and kept having brain seizures on the ice, and his informal nickname around the Civic Center was "Stiffo;" the wide perception was that if he'd been 5'11" instead of a big guy, he'd have been lucky to have a job in the UHL.  I'll see if I can source the comment.    Ravenswing  07:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of physical play 

message: I added the fact that he retired. Also someone needs to update his playing career. The rest of the stats can be found at hockeydb.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.199.196.61 (talk) 14:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Malik retires
Talk:Lahti Pelicans

message: Is this worth even listing him under "Notable players"? He only played 2 games for the pelicans during the lock out season. I believe his name should be removed from that category. Norum 00:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sean Avery 
Talk:2000 in British music

message: See the "Longer periods" section of our Manual of Style:
*"Centuries and millennia"
**"There was no year 0. So for dates AD (or CE) the 1st century was 1–100, the 17th century was 1601–1700, and the second millennium was 1001–2000; for dates BC (or BCE) the 1st century was 100–1; the 17th century was 1700–1601, and the second millennium was 2000–1001."
--A. B. (talk •  contribs)  16:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Millennia 

message: The charts section of this article has been removed as of 2014.
This never should have happened. I cannot simply hit "undo" due to subsequent edits. To be inkeeping with the series of wikipedia entries to which this belongs, the charts section needs to be replaced. Crimsone (talk) 16:51, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: , a decision was taken that for every year from 2000 onwards the charts section was moved to its own article, in this case 2000 in British music charts, because the parent article was becoming too long. Unfortunately, there are editors who feel the need to provide a detailed chart commentary on each week of the chart, so that even these spin-off articles are becoming insanely long. Richard3120 (talk) 17:26, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hence the chart summary, as per articles right the way back from the 80's, should be present. Anything more detailed than what the number 1s for singles and albums were is probably overkill, but there's a pattern present in other articles that should be consistent across the subject. Crimsone (talk) 21:32, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you – I think you can have a section of a couple of paragraphs which gives an overview of the year and any major musical events that occurred that year (e.g. the introduction of downloads to the chart in 2004, or the Spice Girls phenomenon in 1996) but I look at the "summary" in 2014 in British music charts and think "what is the point?"... nobody cares who the highest climber in Week 37 that year was. It's probably something that needs a RfC to determine consensus. Richard3120 (talk) 21:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Charts section
Talk:Montreal Wanderers

message: Article referred to Wanderers as "Little Men of Iron." However, according to the Hockey Hall of Fame website , this was the name of the 1902 Montreal AAA team. Another source is Ultimate Hockey by Glenn Weir, Jeff Chapman and Travis Weir (Toronto: Stoddart, 1999). On page 44, an essay on the Montreal AAA of 1902 is headed "The Little Men of Iron." Munson66 22:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon further review, Total Hockey (2nd edition, 2000) mentions on page 242 that the Wanderers raided the Montreal AAA team known as the "Little Men of Iron," so "the nickname was applied frequently to the Wanderers."Munson66 22:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Little Men of Iron 

message: As noted in the source cited in my footnote, the Wanderers are credited in NHL record books with one win and five losses, but they only actually played four games before the Montreal/Westmount Arena burned down in January 1918. Games scheduled for January 2 and January 5 against Toronto and the Canadiens were recorded as defaults. Note that none of the Wanderer players is credited with playing a fifth or sixth game for that team. Harry Hyland, Dave Ritchie, Jack McDonald, Phil Stevens, Bert Lindsay, Gerry Geran and George O'Grady all are credited with only 4 GP. The source for this data: www.hockeydb.com - Munson66 10:44, March 20, 2007 (UTC)
 Season  GP W L T Pts GF GA  
 1917-18  6 1 5 0  2  17 35 
:Link to won/lost record on www.hockeydb.com. Flibirigit (talk) 10:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wanderers played only four games
Talk:Cleveland Barons

message: I've just changed this to a disambiguation page leading to the NHL Barons, the original AHL Barons and the most recent addition. RGTraynor 18:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I nominated relevant categories for renaming  and fixed a few links. ccwaters 01:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh... and I do plan on populating the player category eventually. I've been doing it slowly by current NHL team rosters and haven't made it out of the East yet. I'll hold off on the Sharks until this one is moved. ccwaters 01:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation
Talk:The Kreutzer Sonata

message: Doesn't the wife have a name in the novel?  Or is she a non-person only in this article?
4.249.63.30 (talk) 18:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-person? 

message: I added the info box to bring this article's formatting in like with Tolstoy's other pages and also added categories.  In addition I moved a few pictures and added some images from the 1906 Broadway adaptation.  I plan to add additional info about the British Library's discovery of the Clandestine editions of the novella in the next few days as well as better references.  I just wanted to give a heads up on the talk page. Feel free to contact me with any notes/concerns.ÇaCestCharabia (talk) 01:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: I have just put down the British Penguin Classics edition of the novella (translated and introduced by David Duff) and it seemed to come a long way away from the sentence here that reads: "After the work had been forbidden in Russia by the censors, a mimeographed version was widely circulated."
The introduction to David Duff's edition goes into pages of detail of how the penultimate version of the novella was leaked without Tolstoy's knowledge and it was this version of the book which was read widely across Russia and beyond before Tolstoy's final version was even finished. The final (ninth) version was initially banned, but it got its first semi-official publication only, with the Tsar's direct permission, if it was printed as a part of Tolstoy's complete works...
The whole story's there in this Penguin Classics edition for anyone who wants to correct this part of the Wikipedia page...
2.27.99.187 (talk) 20:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mimeographed version in Russia 

message: Roosevelt had nothing to do with literary criticism, so I don't see why his opinion is notable. And I think that to the straw man by Chesterton other arguments by other writers & critics ought to be added, to keep balance. Though I assume that difference of approaches to literature in Russia and in Anglo-Saxon countries prevents mutual understanding, especially understanding by Anglo-Saxon critiques of Russian literature (because they have lesser incentive to be versed in it), still I think that adding more commentary is both useful for keeping spectre of opinions and more in line with principles of Wikipedia. - 92.100.164.235 (talk) 14:54, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Authorities
Talk:Peterborough Petes

message: Should all the stats, alumni, etc be placed a separate page?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Themepark (talk • contribs) 04:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: NO. 35 Kilobytes is actually quite small compared to other hockey team articles. Flibirigit (talk) 08:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to Split Article?

message: that is the mem. centre before they re-did the inside. if you want, i can send you an updated picture of it
:Yes, I am aware it is a photo before the renovation. I uploaded it! If you would like add another please upload another. Thanks. Flibirigit 21:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  about PMC picture
Talk:Mississippi Sea Wolves

message: Apologies for the lack of formatting, this is my first time using the talk page on a Wikipedia article.
I suggest making a separate page for the Mississippi Sea Wolves FPHL expansion franchise set to play in the 2022-23 season, and leaving this one as Mississippi Sea Wolves (ECHL). Similar precedent exists in the two separate pages for the Louisiana IceGators (one for the ECHL team and one for the later revival.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjezzyyjezz (talk • contribs) 11:11, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Wheeling Nailers

message: Can anyone find any back sources that claim that the players for the Chiefs and Nailers were used in the movie Sudden Death? The Wikipedia article for Sudden Death (film) states that they came from the defunct Cleveland Lumberjacks and comes with citations.--Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 13:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sudden Death Participation

message: There isn't really a clear standard of notability.  I suggest changing it to a list of former Nailers that made it to the NHL.Saunders1407 (talk) 16:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Nailers

message: Well, since the Johnstown Chiefs are now the Greenville Road Warriors, I no longer think they would qualify as the main rival. Any ideas on which team to replace them with? Cincinnati? Toledo? Ap William (talk) 22:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Rival 

message: Does anybody know why Johnstown (or any city, for that matter) was used as an "alternate venue" for the Nailers? Was this an exploratory move (i.e. the team wanted to move out of Wheeling)? Was Wesbanco just unavailable? I think maybe the article should touch upon that, if possible. I know I'm unclear. YellowAries2010 (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheeling/Johnstown 
Category talk:Supercentenarians

message: Why is that most of the oldest people at least that I have seen have been females? Are the Y chromosome deadly keeping us from being that old? J. C.
:On average, women live for about four years longer than men do. Hence the vast majority of supercentenarians are women. Jim Michael (talk) 10:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender 

message: No need for divisive 'subcategories.'  Some people lived in two or three countries. → R Young {yakłtalk} 01:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it makes it easier to browse :Category:Supercentenarians if it is divided into categories by nationality. Ryūlóng 02:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it makes it much more difficult to find anyone.  Gene Nygaard 08:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: I don't believe this category (and all sub-categories) should include fictional, mythological or legendary characters, actual historical persons only. Editor2020, Talk 00:26, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mythological and legendary figures included?
Talk:Regina Pats

message: Here's a good resource to start with for expanding the team history section. Flibirigit (talk) 19:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, great. I will see what I can do as an editor to use this source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minecrafter0271 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately that web site no longer appears to be active. Flibirigit (talk) 18:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regina Pats alumni & history
Talk:Philadelphia Phantoms

message: The only issue is they haven't revealed whether they will be called the Adirondack Phantoms or the Glens Falls Phantoms. --scottieISmad (talk) 21:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They will be called the Adirondack Phantoms. Someone went ahead and created the page for it already, but should there be to separate articles for Philly and Adirondack?  --scottieISmad (talk) 23:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The articles should be separate as both the ownership and the "new" club's home venue have changed. The only ongoing connection between the two in 2009-2010 will be the nickname and current affiliation. (Centpacrr (talk) 17:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

text: That is, however, not the practice for hockey pages.  The Minnesota North Stars and the Dallas Stars have different pages, as do the Hartford Whalers / Carolina Hurricanes, Winnipeg Jets / Phoenix Coyotes, Quebec Nordiques / Colorado Avalanche, and so on.  On the minor league level, the same holds true; the Springfield Indians, Worcester Ice Cats and Peoria Rivermen have been the same AHL franchise and have different articles, the current Hamilton Bulldogs have their own article as do the franchise's previous stops in Quebec City (the Citadelles), Fredericton (the Canadiens), Sherbrooke (ditto) and Halifax (the Nova Scotia Voyageurs), and so on.  How the baseball WikiProject handles matters is, of course, their own business.    Ravenswing  07:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Official - Glens Falls
Talk:Seattle Metropolitans

message: Did they move to another town and change names?  Close down?  What happened? Unschool (talk) 14:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to them? 

message: In most peoples view the Portland Rosebuds were the first American team to win the Stanley Cup. Multiple historic newspaper accounts exist of the game and Portland even has their name engraved on the Stanley Cup itself (can be viewed in Hockey Hall of Fame). The NHL changed the rules after and Portland then lost the Cup to MontrealKav2001c (talk) 00:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  First US Stanley Cup Winner 

message: Ive begun a major overhaul of the page, if anyone would like to help with proofing and referencing it would be very appreciated, thanks Ottawa4ever (talk) 01:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for undertaking the overhaul.  The rendition of the logo is rather poor, IMO.  I don't have any historical photographic references, but the banner hanging in Climate Pledge Arena has a very different layout to the typography.
https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/media.sportspressnw.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/07194028/Metropolitans-banner-CPA-2021-590x393.jpg
Jamesglong (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renovations 
Talk:Guildford Flames

message: What are the numbers beside the flags in the team roster? Shirt numbers? Number of games played? Annual salary? Why all the flags anyway? The linked names don't work - where the links exist, they seem to be to canadian actors not ice hockey players! -- SGBailey 23:07, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Chicago Wolves

message: Would I be opening a can of worms if I asked what paper had better Wolves coverage? ccwaters 01:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media 

message: If someone wanted to add a trivia section (for instance if there was more than just the one item to put in there), the opening credits of the HBO series Entourage features a quick shot of someone standing on a street corner wearing a Wolves sweater.  It's about seven seconds in. --MyUncleMike 18:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 
Talk:Colorado Rockies (NHL)

message: A merger is not appropriate in this circumstance. 15:45, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree 

message: Under the "Transforming into the New Jersey Devils" subsection it reads the following:
The Rockies had actually petitioned to move to New Jersey in 1978, but the NHL vetoed the move because the Byrne Arena was still under construction, and there was no suitable temporary facility in New Jersey at the time.
As it reads, it is a complete statement, the Byrne Arena was still under construction. I have removed the following irrelevant information:
(dissimilar to the situation faced by the Nets, their soon-to-be arena mates, who used the Rutgers Athletic Center for a few seasons after moving from New York).
That section about the New Jersey nets have absolutely no bearing on the Byrne Arena being under construction. The Rockies did not stay in Colorado because the Nets played at Rutgers... The Rockies stayed in Colorado because the building was still under construction. Flibirigit (talk) 20:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So ... if I get this correct, this is about whether to include a bit of information that does not, in fact, pertain to the Rockies?  IMHO, the Nets have their own article, and I leave it up to the basketball WikiProject as to how to tend their own knitting and what to include in their own articles.    Ravenswing  04:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Byrne Arena 

message: Actually,he played in both the German and Swiss leagues... Ranma9617 (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Paul Gagné (ice hockey)|Paul Gagné]] 
Talk:Belleville Bulls

message: I saw them on TV against the New York Rangers, can someone please axplain this?Altenhofen (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Perhaps you saw them play the Kitchener Rangers ?   PKT(alk) 16:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NHL 