Talk:Reptilian complex

message: Shouldn't this article explain why the subject is called Reptilian? While etymology is probably the least of the neurologist's concern, an explanation would still be appreciated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.179.133 (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

message: There's very little here specifically about the R-complex itself. Most of the material goes into the larger subject of the Triune brain, which is already covered in that article. It just doesn't make sense to have a separate article -- unless somebody plans to expand it in the very near future. Until & unless that happens, it really should be just a redirect to Triune brain. Cgingold (talk) 23:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Support:  This article's contents is not limited to the R-complex.  In fact, most of the information is about the Triune brain concept; it properly belongs there.  Only a sentence or two are about the R-complex specifically.  There is no point in maintaining two articles with the same scope. Freederick (talk) 02:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree that the R-Complex could be merged into the Triune brain.  I also think the article about the triune brain needs to be expanded.--JGaynard (talk) 10:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose: Put more specific information as pertains to the Reptilian brain. Unless you have a section to in Triune brain on the Reptilian Complex which is re-split into a separate article once it grows to a sufficient size. Like the articles on Neocortex and Limbic System. Genjix (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge into [[Triune brain]] 

message: The following paragraph of this article makes no sense:
"The brainstem and older, atavistic areas of the central nervous system control normal involuntary behavior that the conscious mind does not, such as the cardiac and respiratory functions. These are found in all vertebrates. In between these two brains, lies the R-complex."
What "two brains" is the article talking about?  Surely it's not saying that the R-Complex is physically between the brainstem (on the one hand) and the other evolutionarily "older" parts of the brain (on the other hand).  My understanding of "R Complex" has been that it CONSISTS OF the brainstem and other "older" parts of the brain, rather than standing separate from them.  
But lets research that.  Google lists 55200 articles on this.  Let me read a few.  (Reads articles.)
http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/R%20complex.htm
http://www.vesalius.com/cfoli_frms.asp?VID=78&StartFrame=7&tnVID=461
http://www.vesalius.com/cfoli_frms.asp?VID=78&StartFrame=10&tnVID=461#n12
Ah, my understanding was wrong also.  The "Triune Brain" model actually EXCLUDES the areas I thought the R-complex was made of.  Actually, the R-Complex consists of the Cerebral Ventricles, the Thalamus, the Caudate Nucleus, and the Lenticular Nucleus.  All of these are above the brainstem, but below the Limbic System, so the "two brains" this author was vague referring to must be "Brainstem" and "Limbic System".  But those aren't "brains", so this was badly worded.
I'm not certain that this artcle should necessarily be merged into the "Triune Brain" article, though it should obviously contain links to it.  But more importantly, the contents, citations, and vague wording need to be cleaned up.  Some of this is so vague and bad, I'll take the liberty of rewording it (and citing the veslius surgical education site).
LoneWolfiNTj (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does "between these two brains" mean?