Talk:Daniel Akaka

message: :Jiang, browsing back i see that i actually said more earlier, than what i remembered saying while writing the following, and that i probably owe you no apology at all.  I don't know how much interest you have, but after my having made the effort to put it down, better that i make this tiny additional effort, and that you have the opportunity to see it, than not.  
:As for me, i've already given this too much attention, so here follows what, a while back, i thot applied; you'll just have to discount to account for my factual error, since i am not going to rewrite it.
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As i said, i need to apologize:  i was not alert enuf to catch the fact that we were simply "talking past" each other. I hope (and think) i never suggested that there was any likelihood of a change in Sen. A's life that would not be reflected promptly in the art. But on the other hand i never took the simple step of pointing out more explicitly what is unlikely to be properly reflected in updates, ever, without the language i suggested, or a list of pages needing periodic updates.  I am referring to changes outside his life, that change his status, as to aspects reflected in the art.
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Let me enumerate the plausible ones that i find obvious:
*In the period 2003 thru Jan. 2005, a Senator other  than him: 
** dies or resigns, and is replaced by someone with relevant Oriental ancestry, or
** has a "Madeline Albright" event, and learns that they have relevant Oriental ancestry, or
** after a long period of "passing for white" (as the African-American writer Anatole Broyard did until his death), for whatever reason, decides that the time has come to publicly acknowledge their relevant Oriental ancestry.
(I consider these plausible but unlikely events in a two year time frame, and impractical to deal with.  For that reason, it doesn't bother me to risk readers' inferring that the info is "guaranteed" until actually changed or 2004, whichever occurs first.
* Beyond 2004:
** any of the above, which continue to be unlikely, or
** events i consider more likely (and harder to set upper limits on their probability), someone without Oriental ancestry leaves the Senate at the end of their term, and someone with relevant Oriental ancestry replaces them.
BTW, you may want to look at Wikipedia talk:As of, which i've run across since our previous discussion. --Jerzy 06:46, 2003 Nov 19 (UTC)
===Ethnicity===
The page for Hiram Fong said he was the first Native Hawaiian Senator. I changed ref. in Akaka article to reflect that. Ellsworth 15:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  promised note 

message: The page for Hiram Fong said he was the first Native Hawaiian Senator. I changed ref. in Akaka article to reflect that. Ellsworth 15:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnicity

message: Why is Akaka's name given in Chinese script? He is an American, he was born in Hawaii, Daniel Akaka is not a Chinese name, and he is only partly of Chinese descent. Do we give Paul Sarbanes' name in Greek script? Or Joe Lieberman's in Hebrew? This seems to be an unnecessary and rather offensive "foreignisation" of Americans of non-Anglo descent. Adam 03:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see we do give Sarbanes' name in Greek script. Well I oppose that too. Adam 03:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His name

message: Pretty much everwhere else Akaka is said to be the first U.S. Senator of Native Hawaiian ancestry. Evidently, :Hiram Fong is regarded as :Chinese American, as he was apparently no more than 1/4 Native Hawaiian by ancestry. I'm inclined to change Akaka back to being the first, unless there are serious objections. Cgingold (talk) 14:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd count 1/4 as being of Hawaiian decent - in fact it's a lot more Hawaiian than many, such as some students from Kamehameha.  I don't think Sen. Fong should be discounted as he still identified as being Chinese Hawaiian, like many people in Hawaii. —Keakealani·?·!·@ 03:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: If his Chinese paternal grandfather's surname was Li, why is Akaka's surname not also Li? Can some explanation of this basic information be added to this article? 76.190.213.189 (talk) 04:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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