Talk:Siege of Tripolitsa

message: The excerpt of the primary painting designed to draw the reader's attention to a detail of this painting appears like sheer editorializing, and adds no new or compelling information, or, to my taste, emphasis to the article so far.
Indeed, it is condescending, presuming, as it does, that the reader did not already  notice the destruction thus summarized 
in the text. A guide in a museum might do that to a busload of overwhelmed tourists, but the point is evident upon arrival to the article page.  Slapping on visual chartjunk does little to encourage the thoughtful reader to understand and appreciate the primary sources quoted in that section, and explain to him/herself what actually happened. I should propose to delete it.  Cuzkatzimhut (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't agree more. It is pure tendentious editing. I removed it several times, but the user who added it edit-warred to put it back (incidentally he has now been reported at WP:AN3). Athenean (talk) 20:30, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree 200%. Why don't we add "in case you didn't notice it in the infobox image, here is a reminder that Greeks are barbarians" as an image caption while we're at it? This is simply unacceptable. Constantine   ✍  21:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Peculiar Excerpt of Painting

message: I've added the 1828 massacre perpertrated by Ibrahim, based on: Arnakis, George G. (1969). The Ottoman Empire and the Balkan States to 1900. Vol. 1, The Near East in Modern Times. The Pemberton Press,. p. 163. "Several towns, of which Tripolitsa was the most important, were destroyed by Ibrahim's forces, and the people were massacred or sold as slaves.". In case a couple of 1821 era memoirs didn't mention this specific event this can't mean that it didn't happen. As far as I know Arnakis is a well established academic.Alexikoua (talk) 09:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Arnakis is a well established historian, of which you interpret an elusive sentence in a book not focussing on the war of independance, and whose purpose is not to give a precise description of the event in early 1825. Other RS focussing on the history of the war (Douglas Dakin, David Brewer etc) with text dealing precisely to the events of 1825 say that Tripolitsa was evacuated before it as taken by Ibrahim and that the Greek burned it in order to deprive the Egyptians from a shelter in central Peloponnese. It is not relevant in Arnakis to make a detailed description of what happened where, because in the whole no one disagrees with the fact that during the war Ibrahim destroyed several towns and enslaved or massacred many inhabitants of the Peloponnese ; but this sentence is a generalization, a sum-up of the events, it is not intended to describe precisely what happened in Tripolitsa in June 1825.--Phso2 (talk) 09:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've checked the correspodent volume of Ekdotike Athenon. It appears that the city was evacuated and its walls destroyed.Alexikoua (talk) 11:25, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: OK then.--Phso2 (talk) 12:06, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Massacres by Ibrahim

message: Funny how the claimed stable version appears to be mostly the same disputed edit made by a sockpuppet, and certainly was never stable since it was immediately reverted. FDW777 (talk) 18:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  So-called stable version 

message: I believe that more details must be given for the siege (that is the title of the article) .The massacre must be described in a diferrent article. Jestmoon(talk) 16:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siege 

message: I suspect that 23.09 is on the julian calendar, since I have two books with the dates 23.09 and 05.10. pietro 151.29.78.113 (talk) 19:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  calendar