Talk:Cup-and-ball

message: There's gotta be a proper name for it, IIRC it's an Inuit or Eskimo toy. -Drdisque 08:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I, too, believe there's a proper name for this (not just "ball in a cup" like the Family Guy episode), but there's some evidence out there that it's Mexican. —LrdChaos 14:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a name, because people played it all the time when I lived in El Salvador.  For the life of me, though, I can't remember what it is. :/ JuJube 03:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proper name

message: Hi! I think there should be a mention of the fact that what we know in México as Balero isn't exactly a Ball in a Cup, they're very similar but not the same toy. Here are a couple of Google Image Searches for Ball in a Cup and Balero so you can check the differences. I bring this point because currently Balero redirects to this page. Greetings from México. Vicco Lizcano (talk) 17:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balero?

message: Some citations are needed in the History section.
I have tagged the article and the statements in question. Tom H (talk) 19:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: I remember that we had a similar toy in Tehran in the late 50s and early 60s. The cup was red plastic and shaped like an early Coca Cola glass. It was the size of a small shot glass. The ball was white plastic the size of a cherry. The logo and name Coca Cola was printed on the cup. The toy was known to us as 'Coca Cola'. I assume it was a copy from a similar toy produced in the US for advertising purposes. Anyone has more info? Where can we find more about this so that we could incorporate the info into this article? aliparsa (talk) 22:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Coca Cola connection

message: Whilst having some useful information, as far as I can see, reference number three http://acanomas.com/DatoMuestra.php?Id=174 does not contain the information in this part:
"The sizes are also varied, ranging from the “horror,” which had a ball as big as a watermelon and a weight of five kilograms, to the “bibí,” with a ball as small as a cherry, and the “costaud,” made from a pearl with a handle smaller than a match.[3]"
I suggest that the paragraph is fiction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.26.41 (talk) 10:22, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation doesn't appear to contain the material referenced 

message: Balero redirects to this page, but there are distinct differences between Cup and Ball and Balero, in both the design of the object and game play (see the Spanish Balero page). Kendama, which is another example from this family of toys, has a separate page. Bginf1001 (talk) 11:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Balero Page

message: I think the image is a Zingo paya. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong image 

message: ===In popular culture===
* The Family Guy episode, "The Fat Guy Strangler," included a humorous TV commercial featuring the toy, saying it has been Mexico's favorite toy for 340 years. The gag was referred to in a later episode, "Padre de Familia."
* The toy was parodied in The Simpsons episode "Marge Be Not Proud".
* In the "Sign Language!" episode of Oobi, a deaf girl named Amy impresses Oobi and Kako with her technique, to the point of being dubbed "Cup-Ball Queen." She takes a deep breath, then gets the ball into the cup with a brusque flick of her wrist.
* In the Blackadder episode "Bells", Lord Percy asks Bob if he'd like to play a game of cup-and-ball. Later in the episode Queenie is seen playing with a cup-and-ball.
* In The Wise Man's Fear, a story within a story tells of Jax, a boy who is shown many wonderful things, none of which make him happy. Another character interrupts the tale: "Ball and cup doesn't make anyone happy," Marten muttered. "That's the worst toy ever. Nobody in their right mind enjoys ball and cup."
* In Confessions, Jean-Jacques Rousseau claims that "the only morality within reach of the present century is the morality of the cup-and-ball" (195).
::Moved here on this date. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving IPC section here since it's interesting but doesn't belong in article (see [[WP:IPC]]) 

message: * The Family Guy episode, "The Fat Guy Strangler," included a humorous TV commercial featuring the toy, saying it has been Mexico's favorite toy for 340 years. The gag was referred to in a later episode, "Padre de Familia."
* The toy was parodied in The Simpsons episode "Marge Be Not Proud".
* In the "Sign Language!" episode of Oobi, a deaf girl named Amy impresses Oobi and Kako with her technique, to the point of being dubbed "Cup-Ball Queen." She takes a deep breath, then gets the ball into the cup with a brusque flick of her wrist.
* In the Blackadder episode "Bells", Lord Percy asks Bob if he'd like to play a game of cup-and-ball. Later in the episode Queenie is seen playing with a cup-and-ball.
* In The Wise Man's Fear, a story within a story tells of Jax, a boy who is shown many wonderful things, none of which make him happy. Another character interrupts the tale: "Ball and cup doesn't make anyone happy," Marten muttered. "That's the worst toy ever. Nobody in their right mind enjoys ball and cup."
* In Confessions, Jean-Jacques Rousseau claims that "the only morality within reach of the present century is the morality of the cup-and-ball" (195).
::Moved here on this date. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: In popular culture

message: Finding basically nothing whatsoever about this online, other than the Zingo Paya Society. If folks want a separate article, they have to dig up some proper sourcing.
Honestly, I'm not convinced this isn't simply a hoax, but I'll give benefit for the doubt and suggest a merge for now. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Zingo paya]] merge 

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