Talk:Elektra (character)

message: Daredevil performed a ritual over her body that was intended to purge the evil from her soul, and her body subsequently disappeared.
Hmm, it's been years since I last read this, but isn't this almost completely wrong?
The way I remember it, Hand stole the body of Electra to revive her using liveforces of several Hand members. Daredevil intervened and himself tried to revive her, to no avail. However, Daredevil's attempt purified Elektra's soul, and she was later brought to life.
:That's correct; it happened in Daredevil #190.  I've updated the article.
===Resurrection notes===
The Hand stole her body, the Widow, some of the Kingpin's men, and Stone interrupted the ceremony. DD purified her as noted. Stone seems to have resurrected her (it was implied that he gave his life to do so, but such was not the case as shown during Fall from Grace); the end of DD I#190 shows her climbing a mountain in a white version of her usual costume. 
Troubling is the recent Hand series, which showed the Hand resurrecting Elektra. It may have been intended to represent her return in DD I#190-but does not fit in, since the Hand's ceremony does not get inerrupted. The resurrection in that series seems to fit in with Millar's Wolverine run. 
Enda80 02:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resurrection 

message: The Hand stole her body, the Widow, some of the Kingpin's men, and Stone interrupted the ceremony. DD purified her as noted. Stone seems to have resurrected her (it was implied that he gave his life to do so, but such was not the case as shown during Fall from Grace); the end of DD I#190 shows her climbing a mountain in a white version of her usual costume. 
Troubling is the recent Hand series, which showed the Hand resurrecting Elektra. It may have been intended to represent her return in DD I#190-but does not fit in, since the Hand's ceremony does not get inerrupted. The resurrection in that series seems to fit in with Millar's Wolverine run. 
Enda80 02:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Resurrection notes

message: DD attempted to revive Elektra but had seemingly failed, when stone from the hand attempted to bring her to life he found she was already revived, her skin was pale and her soul had been seemingly purified. (Neostinker 17:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ressurection

message: From the size alone, it is easy to see that the Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra article is a footnote and should merged into those characters' articles.--Chris Griswold 04:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that different? --Chris Griswold 17:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra - miniseries. Ultimate Elektra - miniseries. Elektra Natchios - character. Different pages, different types of page. We do not have Trial of a Time Lord merged into Doctor (Doctor Who), so we do not have stories merged into character articles. The two miniseries, however, could be considered as 2 parts of the same story, and thus a case can be made particuarly due to the stub length of the articles. --Jamdav86 13:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Limited series should not have articles based solely on the fact that they are limited series.  The information in this article could be contained in sections in the characters' articles (i.e. "Ultimate Elektra first appeared in the Marvel Comics limited series Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra...").  I see no need for a separate article. --Newt ΨΦ 16:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Imagine this scenario: someone's trolling through some message boards, let's say Newsarama. He sees a poster reference a miniseries. He goes to Wikipedia to look it up. He has a right to find info on the page for the series he is looking at, not just have to mmake do with a one-line mention in a character's article. --Jamdav86 17:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No one is saying it will be a one line reference.  However, it is not Wikipedia's place to give a detailed plot summary either.  These pages could be turned into redirects to the specific character's article with relevant information about the limited series.  IIRC, Ultimate Elektra and Ultimate Daredevil have only appeared in two comics outside of these miniseries (Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-Men respectively), most of the info about their Ultimate continuity selves will be these limited series anyway.  --Newt ΨΦ 18:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the story will still be represented, and the current entry will re-direct to the appropriate place so that a reader can still find what he's looking for. --Chris Griswold 06:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The issue on the merge isn't going to be decided here - what is the broader policy on the Ultimate  editions? There are entries for various other Ultimate stories (including things like Ultimate Nightmare covering the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy) and if that seems to be policy then I'd suggest Ultimate Elektra and Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra be kept separate from each other and this entry. At the moment Ultimate D & E are up for being merged into both the Daredevil and Elektra entries and Ultimate Elektra is up for being merged into Ultimate D & E - the main solution to the potential mess (does it go in this entry or that entry?) would be to leave them all independent and link through to them - the world isn't going to end if they aren't all jammed in together and it seems the neatest solution. The mian arguement for merging is really an arguement to expand the existing entries so slap some tags in there asking for more information. (Emperor 14:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: *Merge--Chris Griswold 04:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Each limited/series should have its own page. But a good argument to be made is for Ultimate Elektra (limited series) to be merged with Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra. --Jamdav86 12:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that different? --Chris Griswold 17:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra - miniseries. Ultimate Elektra - miniseries. Elektra Natchios - character. Different pages, different types of page. We do not have Trial of a Time Lord merged into Doctor (Doctor Who), so we do not have stories merged into character articles. The two miniseries, however, could be considered as 2 parts of the same story, and thus a case can be made particuarly due to the stub length of the articles. --Jamdav86 13:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Limited series should not have articles based solely on the fact that they are limited series.  The information in this article could be contained in sections in the characters' articles (i.e. "Ultimate Elektra first appeared in the Marvel Comics limited series Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra...").  I see no need for a separate article. --Newt ΨΦ 16:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Imagine this scenario: someone's trolling through some message boards, let's say Newsarama. He sees a poster reference a miniseries. He goes to Wikipedia to look it up. He has a right to find info on the page for the series he is looking at, not just have to mmake do with a one-line mention in a character's article. --Jamdav86 17:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No one is saying it will be a one line reference.  However, it is not Wikipedia's place to give a detailed plot summary either.  These pages could be turned into redirects to the specific character's article with relevant information about the limited series.  IIRC, Ultimate Elektra and Ultimate Daredevil have only appeared in two comics outside of these miniseries (Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-Men respectively), most of the info about their Ultimate continuity selves will be these limited series anyway.  --Newt ΨΦ 18:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the story will still be represented, and the current entry will re-direct to the appropriate place so that a reader can still find what he's looking for. --Chris Griswold 06:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The issue on the merge isn't going to be decided here - what is the broader policy on the Ultimate  editions? There are entries for various other Ultimate stories (including things like Ultimate Nightmare covering the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy) and if that seems to be policy then I'd suggest Ultimate Elektra and Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra be kept separate from each other and this entry. At the moment Ultimate D & E are up for being merged into both the Daredevil and Elektra entries and Ultimate Elektra is up for being merged into Ultimate D & E - the main solution to the potential mess (does it go in this entry or that entry?) would be to leave them all independent and link through to them - the world isn't going to end if they aren't all jammed in together and it seems the neatest solution. The mian arguement for merging is really an arguement to expand the existing entries so slap some tags in there asking for more information. (Emperor 14:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: I'd have to check again to be sure, but didn't it imply that she was under the effects of the Mandarin's mind-control ring when she killed Daredevil, and that's why she was thankful when Carol Danvers killed her? --69.7.175.223 10:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mangaverse Version 

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replies: text: people are idiots, i fixed the problem.Phoenix741 00:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: Can someone with greater knowledge of the character please tidy up the Powers and Abilities section ? It has very little in the way of references and seems to be a lot of one fan's original research. Hermiod (talk) 06:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers and Abilities Section 

message: I have removed the following text from the article:
Electra was replaced by a Skrull imposter named Siri prior to the events of Wolverine: Enemy of the State, and Wolverine: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. It is implied that she is still alive, likely a Skrull prisoner.New Avengers #40
Outside of the incorrect spelling of her name, and the dead link... the information is incomplete and incorrect. Elektra's ONLY and EXACT statement in New Avenegrs #40 is: 
:"My name on Earth is Elektra Natchios. I have been on Earth for the last cycle. I have had communication and interaction with S.H.I.E.L.D. commander Nick Fury, a man code-named Daredevil, the mutant Wolverine, and members of the assassin consortium known as the Hand. My identity was not detected. My full report will be available to you at the Queen's discretion."
It is at this point she is asked to explain why the identity of Elektra Natchios is/was well-suited for this assignment. To which she replies:
:"Her entire persona is wrapped in mystery. She is known to the powers of Earth, but no one knows her intimately. She has actually expired from the mortal plane and been brought back to life."
They then go on to discuss how easy it is to pose as a superhuman who's frequently returned from the dead (as many of them have).
My point is, nowhere is it implied that she's alive. That's jumping to conclusions. They mention that she's been dead and brought back to life, which is true, but they don't state it as a present fact, just a fact in general. Jean Grey is a good example of this she's been "dead and brought back to life" in the past, but that doesn't mean she's alive right now.
In fact, given this statement: I have had communication and interaction with S.H.I.E.L.D. commander Nick Fury, a man code-named Daredevil, the mutant Wolverine, and members of the assassin consortium known as the Hand.; they're suggesting that the Elektra in the Elektra ongoing, Bendis's Daredevil run, Wolverine: Enemy of the State/Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., and New Avengers was in fact an imposter all along and that the real Elektra is still dead. However, though that may be the more logical conclusion, it's still us jumping to conclusions and cannot be cited as fact.
As such I recommend the original statement which I have removed be left out of the article, and that in its place Skrull Elektra/Siri's statement should take its place. --Venomaru 2.0 (talk) 20:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement by Skrulls 

message: do you think Elektra is going to be in this game?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.89.227 (talk) 12:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvel Ultimate Alliance:Fusion 

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message: I was surprised to find no mention of Electra from Greek mythology in this article, even though the comic character is clearly a reference to her. I added the link to See Also, but would someone else mind at least adding one prose sentence making this connection? -- Fyrefly  (talk) 14:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the similarities between the characters:
* They share the same name
* Brother also shares the same name
* Brother attempts to kill the mother out of loyalty to their father
* Both from Greece, though that's a bit minor
 -- Fyrefly  (talk) 16:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of Electra 

message: In the 'Activities as an adult' section, it states that Elektra dies and the attempt to resurrect her fails. Then in the very next paragraph (and for the rest of the fictional biography), she is suddenly alive again with no explanation. Would someone like to fix this? -- Fyrefly  (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction about the character's death 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Would it be helpful to add a link to a disambiguation page? I was looking for the character from ancient mythology and got directed here. 69.162.242.34 (talk) 06:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That one is Electra, spelled with a "c" instead of a "k". Dimadick (talk) 07:28, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation page? 

message: The section of her being Daredevil is basically a footnote and it doesn't cover anything about her time as Daredevil and her main image is from 2000s, can you put an image of her as Daredevil, like I get the fanboys are mad about it but please Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 12:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: New Main Image and Stop trivializing her being Daredevil