Talk:The Secret of the Golden Flower

message: I find the passage about the difference between the Yin-quality of Wilhelm's translation and the Yang of Cleary's very interesting. However the article doesn't say what this means. Could someone enlarge? What are the 'significant differences' between the two versions? ThePeg 20:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yin and Yang aspects

message: I regret the need to dispute parts of the section titled 'Chinese Taoists evaluate The Secret of the Golden Flower.' Wilhelm's translation includes a commentary by his friend Carl Jung.  Jung describes how he used mandala therapy in his practice, but Jung's commentary is not actually part of The Secret of the Golden Flower text.  The text of The Secret of the Golden Flower describes various affirmations one may experience after having practiced the meditation for a sufficient time.  The minimum time cited in the book for the meditation to begin to have an effect is 100 days. Examples of the affirmations described in the text include a feeling of floating upward, or a feeling of sitting in a cloud.  Perhaps Master Wang Liping obtained emphasis upon mandala imagery in meditation from his lineage, but I have not found mandala imagery emphasized in the text of Wilhelm's translation of The Secret of the Golden Flower.
173.117.194.54 (talk) 05:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous addition 

message: It is unfortunate that it is difficult to locate an English translation, abstract or any details of the mentioned study "Study of the Secret of Golden Flower Internal alchemy practise". Including it in this article seems totally valid but frustratingly unenlightening for the crude, perhaps ignorant English reader. I'm guessing that verification (ie: "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable"- Wikipedia Guidelines) may be incomplete if an Abstract is unavailable in the language of the entry... (ie: which "European" s were involved) While this cultural relativism casts doubt over any Wikipedia entry that isn't translated into every language on earth, doesn't the very logic of including European(s) demand something of this nature?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.64.162 (talk) 11:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglophilia 

message: This entry really needs work. Right now it reads in parts like a essay for an undergraduate Asian Philosophy course. As a start toward making this entry more encyclopedic, I propose removing the following passage, which is original research, if not just plain commentary:
Like the story of blind people describing an elephant, it seems the poetic aspect of Chinese philosophy communicates an imagery that serves to inform and confirm practitioners according to their own predispositions. The poetic imagery essentially conveys ideas and perceptions better suited to imagining than reasoning, with the hope that in time a convergence of imagery and reason will take place in an informative manner.
ZheXueJia (talk) 13:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  not encyclopedic 

message: One wonders what is the purpose of those two illustrations, which are not found in the Secret of the Golden Flower. (They derive from another text, entitled Xingming guizhi.) Since the lest two paragraphs of the section "Methods" in this article refer to those illustrations, they are also irrelevant.
Xuanying, Mar 26, 2019  —Preceding undated comment added 22:42, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Alchemy 2600:8800:3618:E900:E18E:D1B5:B41B:F82B (talk) 19:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Secret of the Golden Flower