Talk:Security hacker

message: Please add more background information to the history because of the widely misunderstanding of the term hacker. It originated as a genius, and the "hacker" described in this is from it's origination point actually a Cracker.
http://hacks.mit.edu/
https://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/afs-paper/node3.html
https://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/hacker.html
https://www.stackoverflow.com
The concept of hacking entered the computer culture at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the 1960s. Popular opinion at MIT posited that there are two kinds of students, tools and hackers. A ``tool is someone who attends class regularly, is always to be found in the library when no class is meeting, and gets straight As. A ``hacker is the opposite: someone who never goes to class, who in fact sleeps all day, and who spends the night pursuing recreational activities rather than studying. There was thought to be no middle ground. 
Originally a hacker had nothing to do with computers. But there are standards for success as a hacker, just as grades form a standard for success as a tool. The true hacker can't just sit around all night, a hacker must pursue some hobby with dedication and flair. It can be telephones, or railroads (model, real, or both), or science fiction fandom, or ham radio, or broadcast radio. It can be more than one of these. Or it can be computers. Since 1986, the word ``hacker is generally used among MIT students to refer not to computer hackers but to building hackers, people who explore roofs and tunnels where they're not supposed to be.
A ``computer hacker, then, is someone who lives and breathes computers, who knows all about computers, who can get a computer to do anything. Equally important, though, is the hacker's attitude. Computer programming must be a hobby, something done for fun, not out of a sense of duty or for the money. (It's okay to make money, but that can't be the reason for hacking.)
A hacker is an aesthete.
There are specialties within computer hacking. An algorithm hacker knows all about the best algorithm for any problem. A system hacker knows about designing and maintaining operating systems. And a ``password hacker knows how to find out someone else's password.
Someone who sets out to crack the security of a system for financial gain is not a hacker at all. It's not that a hacker can't be a thief, but a hacker can't be a professional thief. A hacker must be fundamentally an amateur, even though hackers can get paid for their expertise. A password hacker whose primary interest is in learning how the system works doesn't therefore necessarily refrain from stealing information or services, but someone whose primary interest is in stealing isn't a hacker, but a cracker.
 
KatsuoRyuu (talk) 04:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. (talk to) TheOtherGaelan('s contributions) 18:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2015 

message: there is a film named "BLACKHAT" released in 2015 is also related to hacker so it would be nice to add to the list
Lunarantic (talk) 11:00, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: - thanks for the suggestion - Arjayay (talk) 11:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2015 

message: HARSH ANAND (Shanu) (talk) 11:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2015 

message: Given that the "Hacking and the media" section contains a list of multimedia works, I propose the removal of the WP:PROSE section tag. Embedded list format seems most appropriate for the topic; the tag is clearly antiquated (August 2008).
Seba5tien (talk/contribs) 12:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done EvergreenFir (talk) 01:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016 

message: 2405:205:A0A9:A830:DC62:E0B5:B335:8B8E (talk) 06:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: - There was no actual request to answer. Please type out your request, or post your test edits in the Sandbox. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:58, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2017 

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message: I noticed a tiny typo on this page. Under the notable hackers header, in the text about Jude Milhon:
change creaters to creators.
You can easily find the typo by using the find function on your browser, search for "creaters".
Thank you. Ferzeg3420 (talk) 21:46, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Gulumeemee (talk) 00:05, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 August 2018 

message: 93.169.29.252 (talk) 00:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 01:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  ip 

message: In the article, under the subheading 'Cracker' it is stated that 'Eric S. Raymond, author of The New Hacker's Dictionary, advocates that members of  the computer underground should be called crackers.' Some points to note here are that there are no citations for this statement, The New Hacker's Dictionary is merely a publication of the 'Jargon File' (as can be seen from this link redirecting to that page), and that Richard Stallman notes he coined the phrase 'in the early 80s':
http://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html
I think this should be carefully looked into to determine what should actually be written in the article. Thanks. DesertPipeline (talk) 01:11, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who coined the term 'computer cracker': Eric S. Raymond or Richard Stallman? 

message: I noticed under the Attacks section, specifically the second paragraph under Social Engineering someone has written "Hackers who use this technique must have cool personalities..."
I am assuming this is not really appropriate for a Wikipedia article? 
SynthGuard (talk) 23:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed that. A few months late, but done. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible vandalism? 

message: 2409:4042:E97:C5CC:0:0:9F8B:190C (talk) 14:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.Signed, I Am Chaos (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2021 

message: It's missing a few words at hier: "Password guessing. Brute-force attacks are used to quickly check all short password variations. For longer passwords, other methods such as the dictionary attack are used, because of the amount of time a brute-force search takes      ". This page is in semi-protection and i have no account, so i can't insert the words myself. Can you, please, do it for me. Thank you. 2A01:CB04:84:F000:D040:5F87:6798:A9ED (talk) 06:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing words 

message: I'm not seeing code breakers discussed as a type of security hacker, or even the other way around. Anyone have a suggestion on this? - Dennis Francis Blewett 75.149.204.97 (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code breakers vs. Security hackers? 

message: The redirect Hacker (computer security has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Utopes (talk / cont) 18:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Hacker (computer security]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]