Talk:Papa Stour

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*Ordnance Survey
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message: "Oot bewast da Horn o Papa,
Rowin Foula doon!
Owir a hidden piece o water,
Rowin Foula doon!
Roond da boat da tide-lumps makkin,
Sunlicht trowe da cloods is brakkin;
We maan geng whaar fish is takkin,
Rowin Foula doon!"
It may be helpful to have a footnote for those unfamiliar with the Shetland dialect. Here is a draft 'translation', which those familiar with this tongue than I may wish to correct.
"Out beyond(?) the Horn of Papa,
Rowing Foula down!
Over a hidden piece of water,
Rowing Foula down!
Round the boat the waves(?) are making,
Sunlight through the clouds is breaking;
We must go where fish are taken,
Rowing Foula down!"
Ben MacDui (talk ) 07:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there's still something a bit wrong here, I can't remember the song in it's entirety but I think that the text referring to the scent of the flowers on Papa leading the fishermen home refers to a line in the last verse, which isn't here so that could be a bit confusing. Also, and this is just a personal thought, Rowin Foula Doon could be considered as per your translation, understandably because the expression "Rowin da isle doon" refers to going about 40 miles offshore to the point where Shetland is just appearing above the horizon. Normally this referred to Ronas Hill being just visible by the Far Haaf fishermen from Gloup in Yell.I think in this instance it refers to rowing towards Foula, most likely to the Haaf, not the Far Haaf, because "Rowin Foula Doon", "Bewast", would involve being over the edge of the continental shelf, I think.Again just a personal interpretation, but I would suggest that it could cast doubt on the article.I have a few friends, more musically minded than me, including Gary Peterson, from Hom Bru, who have recorded the song, I will ask their opinion and get back to you.Shetlander57 16:24, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Da Sang

message: I'm not able to find a reasonable reference to this, so thought I'd add it to talk in the hope that somebody else can find it.
Dutch Loch, I believe, is so named because of connections with the Hanseatic trade. Dutch actually being a Shetland screw-up of the German Deutz(sp?). This is just something which was told to me by a recent resident of Papa Stour. Only reference I could find was a partial reference on Shetlopedia, but I think those guys and Wiki aren't on best terms at the moment, so I ignored that.Shetlander57 01:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutch Loch 

message: . A request had been made for the Stromness lifeboat from Orkney, only 120 miles away, to launch, but the request was actioned too late to be of help.   Is the word actioned the right word in this case?
:I have heard it used often enough by military/naval types, but my dictionary does not allow for it. I'll amend it. Ben MacDui (Talk) 09:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewording request

message: Thanks Kathryn - yes it is both a partial quote beginning in lower case and the word 'with' is an introduction, not a link. There is a break in the quote as well, which I omitted to be clear about. I'll fix that too. Ben MacDui (Talk) 09:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: "His younger son, Edwin Lindsay, an Indian army officer, was declared insane after refusing to fight in a duel and was sent to Papa Stour in the Shetland islands. He spent 26 years there as a prisoner before the Quaker preacher Catherine Watson arranged for his release in 1835."General Alexander Lindsay, 6th Earl of Balcarres" The Peerage.com. Retrieved  15 September 2007.Haswell-Smith, Hamish (2004) The Scottish Islands. Edinburgh. Canongate. Page 452."
Quote from his father's article [Alexander Lindsay, 6th Earl of Balcarres]]
If Papa Stour was used as a place to keep the insane as prisoners, it should be in the article. I am working on articles connected with the Channel Islands, which is why I make a comment here for an editor interested in this matter. I try not to be distracted by other interesting questions.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insane prisoners? 

message: In Category Underwater diving sites in Scotland, but no mention in the text. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dive site?