Talk:Dress shirt

message: Maybe someone can add a bit about shirt sizes... I still dont know what the numbers are in reference to. Thanks! --Wesman83 20:29, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Sizing''

message: This really didn't seem appropriate. Mp 11:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. 216.57.77.75 20:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SCANC

message: Don't these two sentences in the current article directly contradict eachother?
1.  The Name Button Down comes from the way that the buttons go down the front of the shirt. A common misconception is that they are called button downs because of the way you can attach the collar to the shirt with a button.
2.  While the term button-down is sometimes used in American English to refer to shirts in general, it is still generally used, as originally, to refer to a shirt with a buttoned collar. -Andrew   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.96.186.1 (talk) 20:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So shouldn't something in the article mention that it is correct to refer to a dress shirt as a button down shirt in common American English? Pnkrockr 14:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Button down shirt

message: I set button-down to redirect to this page and I fleshed out the collars. If the other terms for a dress shirt are mentioned in the open, then it is unnecessary to repeat and continue to beat the dead horse about it.
Also, I'd kill to have someone that knows what they're talking about to do a bigger section on shirtings (pinpoint, oxford, broadcloth... so on so forth)
Sorry about the wierd edits here, I'm pretty tired and all.Desk Jockey 07:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Button downs, part deux

message: The article currently says that "A traditional tailored shirt has 12 separate components", but proceeds to list only 10 (1 collar, 1 yoke, 2 sleeves, 2 cuffs, 2 front panels, 1 back, 1 placket).  If the 12 is correct, what are the other 2?  If it is not, it should be fixed to match the list.  Ruyn 19:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of components

message: Checked Flusser (2002), p.74-75: seems misquoted: the shirt "had a separate" collar which "sat high" etc, all in past tense. Flusser concludes: "most of these designs were transformed and worked into the classic tuxedo's final composition". Could somebody check the other ref ?   Lumarv (talk) 15:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry.  Getting page numbers is such a nuisance, I would rather get the some basic stuff down then reference it incrementally.  I have added the relevant page number, which says: "the dinner shirt brooks no deviation from tradition ... it features a stiff (preferably separate to attach) high-standing wing collar" which is "designed to further refine the wearer's visage". Antongiavanni, is as always, more forthright (though still pretty reliable); and to say "some consider it incorrect or having a bad appearance" is pretty toned-down compared to most of the vitriolic anti-attached collars polemic (obviously not from the quoted authors). —Kan8eDie (talk) 21:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Formal shirts

message: The opening paragraph of this article does not give all the defining characteristics of a shirt. For a garment to be called a shirt it has to have: A one-piece pleated or gathered back; a narrow, one or two-piece double yoke; two front sections that overlap; flat-felled armscye, side, and underarm seams; one-piece sleeves with plackets; either barrel or French cuffs; a collar on a separate stand; and a rolled hem. 87.115.90.12 (talk) 22:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Basic Definition

message: I'm a classy guy.  I am certain that you do not need to button the top button if you wear a tie.  After all thats what the tie is for!!! I propose that we amend the article to reflect this fashion DO.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.243.4.157 (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Button the Top Button? 

message: This portion needs to be rewritten with a source that has a better knowledge base on dress shirts than Forbes. --Todaytom (talk) 23:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean, "a better knowledge base"? The Wikipedia:Verifiability policy is: "articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy [...] In general, the best sources have a professional structure in place for checking or analyzing facts, legal issues, evidence, and arguments." Wouldn't you agree Forbes qualifies? Would you have a better one to suggest?   Racconish  Tk    06:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest a information from a source that's wealth of knowledge isn't mostly about business and finance. Something like GQ or Esquire_(magazine) that know more about clothes. --Todaytom (talk) 07:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If exists and has same kind of broad international coverage, why not.   Racconish  Tk    07:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Shirtmakers Rewrite 

message: you can make a Link to german article: Deutsch | Hemd http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemd
--Slartu (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Languages

message: I kind of did a double-take when seeing that "Shirts are predominantly used by men, since women usually wear blouses". I've revised it to have a reference to a journal article which talks about the history of the white dress shirt including the uptake of the buttoned dress shirt by women in the Victorian era. While men wear them more frequently there is no lack of women who wear shirts (especially in the workplace) and this edit should make that a bit clearer. That Damn Snipergirl 14:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of women wearing shirts 

message: you can make a Link to german article: Deutsch | Hemd http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemd
--Slartu (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Languages

message: Do we have a source for the first sentence where "Dress shirt" is referred by all those names? Heartwarming (talk) 20:31, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "Single cuffs, the most formal style, usually only worn with formal eveningwear, are double cuffs without the fold." -- I don't understand this:  single cuffs are unfolded double cuffs? 107.134.78.59 (talk) 23:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  single double