Talk:Rod McKuen

message: I notice that the article states that Rod McKuen "has proven to be a prolific songwriter, penning over 1500 songs"; however, I learned last night, that McKuen actually used many uncredited ghostwriters of which my cousin was one.  Not only were my cousin's songs performed by McKuen but by many others...yet only McKuen has received the credit.  No wonder my cousin was never able to get his songwriting career off the ground back in the 70's.  I am not too familiar with McKuen's work but now have to wonder...which songs are actually his??? EAE, California  User:204.109.29.5 19:23, 25 January 2006
:This would be interesting to follow up on...post a message on his flight blog on the external links on his page Doc 14:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: F Ronald Gross, ghostwriter for McKuen

message: Rod McKuen deserves a better fate than this hagiographic article allows him. His achievements are significant but are not well served by a uniformly adulatory article, much of which is cribbed from his own website and none of which deals with the very real and very permanent rejection of his published books as serious poetry. Try to find him in the Norton Anthology, for example.
Was he popular? Absolutely - but provide sourcing for the sales figures that is not derived from his website. RM's musical work has earned him even critical recognition, which is supportable. I also believe that Frank Sinatra recorded an entire album of exclusively RM's songs, which should probably be mentioned.Much work to be done on this article. Sensei48 (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, 76 - at least the lede is one sentence and so small that you could miss it. McKuen sold millions of books of poetry in the 1960s and 70s (selling any kind of book in the millions is remarkable, but poetry....), and the songs he has written have sold millions of records, albums, and CDs. He was a slightly under-the-radar media force of the time because he wasn't much of a performer - more of a writer/composer. Plus there are plenty of people who regard his output as banal trash, popular though it was. Maybe I'll try to rewrite the opening paragraph to expand it and give him his proper due. Sensei48 (talk) 03:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 8/14/09 

message: The Terry Jacks article says that Seasons in the Sun was released in 1973, not the late 1960s as stated herein.  I'm not changing it because this article's author may know something I don't -- maybe Jacks was performing the song live for several years before recording it, and those performances started in the late 1960s?  But it's worth looking into. Gms3591 (talk) 11:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seasons in the Sun 

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message: Although there *may* be source for him running away from home at 11, no reference is cited.  In addition to that, he is clearly living with his mother Clarice, in Oakland, in the 1950 census at age 16.  So I've removed this phrase.Wjhonson (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biographical edits 

message: In case anyone wants to use this in the article.  Not my department so I'll just leave it here.  2602:24A:DE47:B8E0:1B43:29FD:A863:33CA (talk) 00:37, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
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