Talk:Emergency vehicle lighting

message: : Have I wrongly classed this article? If so, Please change it! Dep. Garcia (Talk to Me) 17:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably better discussed under beacons. Latlely i have been thinking about moving the "single beacon" section of the article out of the article and starting a new article with it, or placing it in a new article. Strictly speaking, single beacons are not lightbars because they do not meet the generally accepted image of the lightbar. TomStar81 04:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've removed the information pertaining to CA code, because this is not a page dedicated to CA warning lights - I have moved some of the information, in a more generalized form, to the Emergency vehicle equipment page --Badger151 01:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CA vehicle code, &c 

message: This page badly needs a total cleanup and reorganization of thought. Perhaps into categories such as Legal Aspects, Local Information (for states' info on lighting policies), etc. Also, there should be a section dedicated to volunteers, as there is a lot of information on that. 204.52.215.2 20:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup, reorg &c 

message: Personally, I think this article could do with a bit of refactoring. Firstly, it should be moved to somewhere more general - the form factor section's already covering individual lights, and few regulations distinguish between light bars and individual lights; they're just separate ways of meeting the same end. I'm not sure what the new article should be. Emergency vehicle lighting, while a possibility would tend to exclude utility vehicles. Secondly, the 'colours' and 'lightbars by service' sections should be merged into each other as both vary enormously from country to country (the latter is already very USA-centric). Any objections or suggestions (especially with regards to a new name)? --Scott Wilson 21:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refactor? 

message: "Lightbar" refers to a bar of lights or group of lights arranged in a bar-like formation. A lightbar does NOT include beacons, single unit strobes, or any other kind of light. A Vector is classified as a lightbar, by the way.
Vectors, though, can be mentioned in an article about beacons, but is classified as a lightbar. -StonedChipmunk 01:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and move to start a motion to move this page to a more appropriate title - Bennyboyz3000 09:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Disagree.  There's all kinds of names for emergency vehicle lighting ( I'd never heard of "single beacons" before coming to this page ), but "lightbar" is what people will be searching for. Squidfryerchef 05:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can always leave a redirect from light bar - just as there currently is one from lightbar. The fact that there are many different names is, IMNSHO, even more of a reason to move this page to something generic, although I'm blowed if I can figure out what. --Scott Wilson 10:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't this be covered under emergency vehicle equipment? The pictures on the page are mostly showing off the cars, not the lightbars, and the close up of the inner workings, while a good picture, is a beacon. Vote for move and leave a redirect.CptnSkippy 16:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging this article to Emergency vehicle equipment would quadruple the size of that article, which also has to include radios, winches, stretchers, and many other types of equipment.  I'd say lets direct our efforts to improving this page as it is.  The point is that yes, parts of this article also apply to "gumball" lights or lights under the grill, but "light bar" makes a good archetype for all the different warning lights you see on the road. Squidfryerchef 02:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about emergency vehicle lighting then? --Scott Wilson 02:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better, but it's just that the page has a long history of edits as "light bar" that it's one of those "don't move the cheese situations".  I'd have preferred the single word "lightbar" anyway but since it's been here a long time let's leave it where it is and spend our energy working on the article itself. Squidfryerchef 05:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Good point about enlarging the equipment page, and EV lighting would be a good cover all. I know light bar has history, but the general lighting term might be better encompassing and allow for beacons, dash, deck and those little tir3 surface mount things.CptnSkippy 17:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Can we get a show of hands of US vs. UK language preference?  I'm from the US, and "lightbar" seems to have taken on an umbrella usage here, at least on the various forums i've seen.  That might not be the case in other English-speaking countries and may account for the periodic suggestions to rename page.  On the other hand "beacon" seems to be used in Commonwealth countries but not the US. Squidfryerchef 02:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my (UK) personal experience, lightbar (not sure about the spelling though) and beacon are both perfectly valid, but separate terms. Beacons aren't lightbars and vice-versa. This is why we should put this at something generic; that way it works for UK English as well as US English - even if lightbar is a generic term there, they would still understand what emergency vehicle lighting meant, and we could mention that lightbar is used generically. Also, we can always have redirects from lightbar, light bar, beacon and anything else we can think of to rescue those looking for specific items. --Scott Wilson 13:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: US here. Beacons and Lightbars are both types of lighting equipment. To me, the term beacon reminds me of the 1980's blue gumball lights from the Florida Highway Patrol. If I'm not mistaken, Michigan State Police still use a single beacon on the roof of their cars.CptnSkippy 15:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've dropped my objections and now vote for "Emergency Vehicle Lighting".  It will make a nice branch from Emergency Vehicle Equipment as well. Squidfryerchef 02:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: What about the term gyrophare ? 72.53.102.43 (talk) 09:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on the term "lightbar" 

message: I belive this page needs a move to a more appropriate title that encompasses all these forms of lighting mentioned here, not only lightbars. -Bennyboyz3000 09:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree.  There's all kinds of names for emergency vehicle lighting ( I'd never heard of "single beacons" before coming to this page ), but "lightbar" is what people will be searching for. Squidfryerchef 05:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can always leave a redirect from light bar - just as there currently is one from lightbar. The fact that there are many different names is, IMNSHO, even more of a reason to move this page to something generic, although I'm blowed if I can figure out what. --Scott Wilson 10:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't this be covered under emergency vehicle equipment? The pictures on the page are mostly showing off the cars, not the lightbars, and the close up of the inner workings, while a good picture, is a beacon. Vote for move and leave a redirect.CptnSkippy 16:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging this article to Emergency vehicle equipment would quadruple the size of that article, which also has to include radios, winches, stretchers, and many other types of equipment.  I'd say lets direct our efforts to improving this page as it is.  The point is that yes, parts of this article also apply to "gumball" lights or lights under the grill, but "light bar" makes a good archetype for all the different warning lights you see on the road. Squidfryerchef 02:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about emergency vehicle lighting then? --Scott Wilson 02:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better, but it's just that the page has a long history of edits as "light bar" that it's one of those "don't move the cheese situations".  I'd have preferred the single word "lightbar" anyway but since it's been here a long time let's leave it where it is and spend our energy working on the article itself. Squidfryerchef 05:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Good point about enlarging the equipment page, and EV lighting would be a good cover all. I know light bar has history, but the general lighting term might be better encompassing and allow for beacons, dash, deck and those little tir3 surface mount things.CptnSkippy 17:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Can we get a show of hands of US vs. UK language preference?  I'm from the US, and "lightbar" seems to have taken on an umbrella usage here, at least on the various forums i've seen.  That might not be the case in other English-speaking countries and may account for the periodic suggestions to rename page.  On the other hand "beacon" seems to be used in Commonwealth countries but not the US. Squidfryerchef 02:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my (UK) personal experience, lightbar (not sure about the spelling though) and beacon are both perfectly valid, but separate terms. Beacons aren't lightbars and vice-versa. This is why we should put this at something generic; that way it works for UK English as well as US English - even if lightbar is a generic term there, they would still understand what emergency vehicle lighting meant, and we could mention that lightbar is used generically. Also, we can always have redirects from lightbar, light bar, beacon and anything else we can think of to rescue those looking for specific items. --Scott Wilson 13:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: US here. Beacons and Lightbars are both types of lighting equipment. To me, the term beacon reminds me of the 1980's blue gumball lights from the Florida Highway Patrol. If I'm not mistaken, Michigan State Police still use a single beacon on the roof of their cars.CptnSkippy 15:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've dropped my objections and now vote for "Emergency Vehicle Lighting".  It will make a nice branch from Emergency Vehicle Equipment as well. Squidfryerchef 02:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: What about the term gyrophare ? 72.53.102.43 (talk) 09:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move page 

message: I am just about to move the page to Emergency vehicle lighting per consensus above. --Ben 05:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As the page has now been moved, please feel free to share concerns on this talk page. The article will still need rewording to replace the generic light bar term with emergency vehicle lighting or something similar. --Ben 05:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PAGE MOVED

message: The photo of the NYPD cruiser, though a good one, didn't really illustrate the Vector lightbar.  Since things were becomeing cramped, I removed it to here, in case someone can make better use of it than I. --Badger151 00:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The NYPD pic is definitely a Vector, but you're right, it's hard to tell in that thumbnail. Thanks for moving it. -StonedChipmunk 02:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: There's a pic there, but it would be great to see a section added to put it in. But I know exactly 0 about japanese colors / law enforcement so... Zotel - the Stub Maker 14:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you like a pictues of a newer police units or other departments to be add? Rasseru 22:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan pic, Section? 

message: Although it is an impressive display of lights, there should be clarification on this. Even though it has a lightbar, I think it should be moved to something like Emergency vehicle equipment because there are many other lighting implements on the vehicle that have nothing to do with lightbars. -StonedChipmunk 02:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NJ EMT's vehicle 

message: I propose a merge from Dashboard light into this article, as they significantly overlap (see WP:MERGE). A dashboard light is an Emergency vehicle lighting product.  I have tagged the articles as such, and will go ahead and merge them soon provided there are no objections --Ben 08:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Dashboard light]] into this article 

message: I'm questioning whether some legislation in Texas is relevant to the page.  The web page linked to has several versions of the bill, but the one I'm looking at (enrolled/bill/html)  doesn't really mention lighting.  Most of it had to do with which vehicles can go through tollbooths for free during a disaster.
The only mention of lights was in this context:
 	The exemption from payment of a
  	toll for an authorized emergency vehicle applies regardless of
  	whether the vehicle is:
  	             (1)  responding to an emergency;
  	             (2)  displaying a flashing light; or
  	             (3)  marked as an emergency vehicle.
And the only mention of RACES was in this context:
  	The emergency management council shall make
  	recommendations to the Department of Public Safety as to which
  	private emergency organizations, such as the American National Red
  	Cross, the Salvation Army, Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service,
  	and other similar organizations with the capability to supplement
  	the state's resources in disaster situations, should be authorized
  	to operate certain vehicles as designated emergency vehicles in the
  	case of a disaster.
So this law doesn't actually designate RACES vehicles as emergency vehicles.  It just says that this council will have the power to designate private organization's vehicles as emergency vehicles during a disaster, and they happened to use RACES as an example.
Now the law that's being amended, it might have something that says emergency vehicles may have flashing lights.  But we're way, way out on a limb there.  Besides, even if it was true it might be overspecific.  For example, in states that enumerate a list of which vehicles may use amber, I remember Rhode Island included the REACT CB organization, I'm sure there's many states that allow RACES to use amber.  If ham volunteers were given some unusual color like green or purple that would be notable, but if they're going to be alongside "implements of husbandry" and "ice cream vendors" in a long list of who may use amber, that probably doesn't belong here. Squidfryerchef 00:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well - overwhelming evidence against having the comment in there - I'll take it out until we see more concrete evidence, etc. --Bencomplain 05:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  It's extremely doubtful that ham volunteers would be allowed anything other than amber.  If you've ever seen the website hamsexy.com they're always making fun of hams who have too many lights on their cars.  I'm sure they would have a field day ( no pun intended ) if hams were considered emergency vehicles.  Anyway it might be interesting to have a section for disaster vehicles and how they are treated in different states.  AFAIK in California even the Red Cross is limited to amber.  P.S. what do you think of the recent near-rewrite of the page?  Do we want all those changes? Squidfryerchef 01:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well as you brought it up, i'll anticipate any reaction - I have reordered the article significantly because the previous layout confused physical form with technical specifications with usage.  The main change is moving everything around so it sits with like information.  There was also some rewriting to give a more general and international view of beacon use.  Hope that helps. Owain.davies 06:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just a lot of new material to digest at once.  We typically have a couple of people maintaining the page, and every week or so a new user comes by and adds a paragraph.  Then we spend a good amount of time debating and editing just that one paragraph ( e.g. the above discussion ).  I'll start a new  talk section to bring up some points here and there. Squidfryerchef 02:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Took out Texas paragraph per discussion. Squidfryerchef 02:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas legislation 

message: Now that I have restructured the article in to a slightly more logical form, I think that we ought to cut down, or ideally remove the country by country breakdown.  This generally makes articles look a lot better and easy to use.  We can amalgamate key information on colour in to the Wikitable, and then other useful information can be used in the text, where it is relevant to a particular country etc.   Any thoughts?
Owain.davies 07:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, actually I think adding that table is premature.  The issue is, a country by country table isn't workable for North America and Australia, where the colors are set at the state level.  Also the definitions of services are variable, various U.S. states and Canadian provinces have separate categories for volunteer firefighter's cars, snowplows, tow trucks, private security, disaster relief, and hearses.  Some of the detail for European countries would be overspecific if applied to the U.S.; for instance the bit about Swedish police using both white and blue; while in the U.S. you might find blue/white, blue/red, blue/amber, blue/red/amber, and solid blue all used by different departments within one state.  A possible compromise though could be to put continental Europe in its own table, as most of the information there is far less detailed than we have for the English-speaking countries, and they are more likely to have national police forces that standardize on a single color. Squidfryerchef 21:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like a good solution, almost everything can go in to the table, but the US is awkward!  As for the categories, we could easily add a couple of others in (snowplough for instance), but that was what i tried to do with the end column.  Owain.davies 08:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The other issue is that a table might not be the best solution.  We might want to ultimately have prose for each country that explains how each service uses emergency vehicle lighting, explains the laws and the customs involved, a lot more information than just a color in a table.  Squidfryerchef 03:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with Squidfryerchef, we need to use most of the information by country there, just in a more efficient manner. Obviously a table isn't appropriate - it would remove lots of good information --Benchat 04:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text:  The current function is not quite effective either, there are a variety of different colours of lights in Europe for example fire trucks use Yellow lights in Spain, Red and Blue in Cyprus, Red or sometimes blue in Greece. Green can be used by security vehicles or used to mark command posts depending on country. UK vehicles can show flashing red to the rear... Perhaps it would be best to have a page of it's own for it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.142.192.90 (talk) 13:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a published source that says that in Spain, yellow is primarily used for fire trucks, go ahead and add it. Squidfryerchef (talk) 21:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

text:  Nobody seems to have taken into account that, in the UK, a green light symbolises a doctor. If nobody objects, I'll endeavour to put a mention on it soon, when I have time to find sources. 
Also, I partially agree with some of the above posts in that the article, particularly the country by country analysis should be consolidated or put in a summary at the start of the section, though it should definitely stay in- for trivia of nothing else. HJ Mitchell (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breakdown by country 

message: There's a British study about which lights are most noticeable, which provides several references to this article.  But on the web I've found similar documents, including one that goes into more detail on the moth effect and references a U.S. magazine about a lawsuit in that area.  I'm planning to link that also, but am showing all the links here to clear up any confusion.
This 19-page report is what we're linking to now:
http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29wgs/wp29gre/greinfdoc/48inf02.pdf
This March 2000 "summary report" appears to be very similar to the one we're linking to now, and includes a title page with the author's names:
*http://hdl.handle.net/2134/520
*(dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2134/520/1/TT779%20AR2183.pdf - they prefer we link to the handle.net URLs)
This June 1999 "final report" is a much longer 131 pages:
*http://hdl.handle.net/2134/527
*(dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2134/527/1/TT779%20AR2344.pdf)
Squidfryerchef 16:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different versions of the ICE study 

message: Common places to mount such beacons include on or in the grille of the vehicle and on the front of the rear view mirrors, where they can gain maximum visibility, or as additional lighting such as on the side of the bonnet which helps increase the warning for oncoming traffic when pulling out of junctions.
This I haven't seen before.  I've seen corner strobes, where they put white strobe lights inside the directional signals, but are these lights actually on the hood of the car or are they on the side panels by the front wheel wells? Squidfryerchef 02:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have strobes mounted on the actual bonnet (on top facing forward) and on the side (above the wheel arch or in that area) facing sideways to maximise visibility from the side as you pull out of a blind junction. I'll take a picture and post it. Owain.davies 08:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's probably some web site we could link to here in the discussion that has pictures of them.  I didn't want to copyedit that paragraph without seeing them myself because it might miss important points.  I could work something in about our ambulances, which have a series of square lights all around the bubble-top. Squidfryerchef 00:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true as well, we also have large incandecent or LED bulbs around the top of the vehicle with a slow flash rate for on scene use. Owain.davies 06:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bodywork mounted 

message: I'm not sure about the new photo of the unmarked ( or POV ) car in Slovakia.  Should we have the plate number visible on a pic like that?  Anyway I asked at WP:VPP and at WP:LAWENFORCE project page, because this must have come up before.  Squidfryerchef 22:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh. Unless Slovakia has any laws to the contrary, the fact that that car's operated by the police is self-evidently in the public domain. If it was that much of a problem, I suspect the driver would have stopped the photographer. --Scott Wilson 18:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, it's been a week and no consensus at either forum.  I think we're left to our own judgement on this matter.  There's also a third choice: turns out that Commons has extensive country-sorted galleries of police, fire, and ambulance vehicles.  We could just put up a portal to that next to the Europe section ( those galleries are Europe-heavy and we are Europe-light ).  That way the user can look up whatever county they want, and removes the temptation to add dozens of pics to the article. Squidfryerchef 13:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added portal to Commons. Squidfryerchef (talk) 00:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos; is this cool? 

message: Okay, I did a few things to the UK section, so here's a blow by blow account:
*Rephrased and condensed quite a few things, especially things that were repeating themselves.
*Re-added the UKEV citation a couple of times. While it's nice to cite the RVLRs, it's also good to have a human-readable summary available, too, especially bearing in mind that Wikipedia is not a lawyer and does not give legal advice.
*While I like the Driving Magazine article - it's an interesting read - I don't think it specifically excludes vehicles being exempted; I think it's just the way the author's chosen to phrase things that puts it in terms of the driver. Given that other sources (UKEV for one) talk in terms of vehicles and the Road Safety Act amends section 87 (1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act to read "No statutory provision imposing a speed limit on motor vehicles shall apply to any vehicle...[emphasis mine]" I think it's wholly appropriate to talk about vehicles being exempt from regulations. That said, this one of of the sections I heavily condensed - we seemed to be saying a lot twice; I hope I haven't missed anything important out. --Scott Wilson (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Scott, sorry but i've removed the UK Emergency link again, because whilst I fully agree with the idea of having an easy to read summary, i can't support having one that contains so many 'facts' which are in direct contradiction of the actual law, such as the use of blue lights being linked to claiming of exemptions (they aren't), saying that warning beacons can be fitted if not connected (a road traffic offence) to name only two.  If you can find a better site (and also, whilst on the subject, one which isn't self published) then I would fully support its inclusion. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 21:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My recent edits 

message: I don't understand the "anti-lock brake" clause in the UK section.  The doc cited says something about "a green warning lamp used as an anti-lock brake indicator".  Do cars in the UK have a green light that flashes when ABS kicks in?  I've never heard of that; please enlighten us. Squidfryerchef (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's exactly what it is, although it is not widely fitted.  It is designed to give other drivers extra warning of hars hbraking, and is legal throughout Europe. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 12:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any chance we can get a footnote explaining what this light is for? Squidfryerchef (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-lock brake indicator? 

message: The switch is on the steering wheel in American cars. These cause the lights all over the car to flash. Used only if the car is a danger, such as it having a breakdown on the road. Powerzilla (talk) 23:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may have misunderstood the article - this is not about hazard lights, but about additional warning beacons, not fitted to normal cars. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 12:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a article on this? Powerzilla (talk) 15:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It hasn't got it's own article (probably quite rightly), but it's covered in Automotive lighting. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 23:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now also created redirects from hazard light(s) and hazard flasher(s). OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 09:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hazard lights

message: I retract my earlier statemnt regarding this matter, as the sub- section pertaining to it has since come to my attention, however, may I suggest slightly more enhancement.
I have added a bullet point on the issue (I'm sure somebody will remove it and put it somewhere more approppriate if neccesary).
Further, may I suggest adding a picture? I have one that might be appropriate but I'm unfamiliar with the complexities of editing, though if instructed, I would gladly upload it HJ Mitchell (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green Lights for Doctors in the UK 

message: As I stated in the article itself, HMCG do not have legal exemption from traffic regulations even operating under "blues and twos"
and cannot legally oblige motorists to yield right of way, though I do not believe many people are aware of this. I've raised the issue in the article itself as it is not a major edit, but somebody may wish to incorporate it into the main body of text HJ Mitchell (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her Majesty's Coastguard 

message: My understanding is that the term marked indicates that a vehicle has markings, such as text or a badge, indicating that it is an official vehicle.  This is independant of whether any emergency lights are overtly or covertly mounted.  Thus, a police car with a badge on the door, using only hide-away lights, is marked.  I've therefor edited the following sentence: "Because of these visual advantages, these vehicles are sometimes referred to as 'stealth' or 'semi-marked' vehicles as opposed to their 'marked' counterparts," cutting out the part of the sentence that discussed markings. --Badger151 (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marked vs unmarked 

message: Just about all Russian emergency vehicles have blue, but isn't it true that in Russia now for a vehicle to pull you over, it must have flashing red? 174.54.123.98 (talk) 20:07, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russia 

message: I know, for a fact, that the Humane Law Enforcement Department (HLE) of the New York City-based American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) uses all-red lightbars on the top of their marked vehicles. I do not know if this is legal in the State of New York, but I thought that I should just put that thought out there.L.J. Tibbs (talk) 16:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red lights being used by Law Enforcement in the United States 

message: I'm from NY State. Police use red lights and volunteer firemen use blue. I've noticed in most of New England (MA and NH), the state police and Boston police use blue lights. Please note this on the page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.121.132 (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  blue lights  

message: I have placed the  template on this page since that is the variety of English used in the first version of the article. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Variety of English

message: Hawaii uses blue lights for their police cars, much like Europe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.129.243.31 (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaii 

message: Although this addresses photosensitive epilepsy, it ignores the fact that these lights can be disorienting, blinding, or incapacitatingly painful. Add in turn signals, etc. and I can't walk down the street without getting hit by these accursed things. I have ended up in the street after being disoriented by these. 108.45.79.25 (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dangers 

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message: The second bullet point here is practically unreadable and converys little useful information. It needs someone familiar with the situation to rewrite it; I would, but I don't know the details of what it's trying to say.
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message: "The UK along with Australia, Canada, New Zealand and several other commonwealth countries now use green emergency lights along with the USA to identify their special security vehicles while on secured facilities as well as responding to any security breach at a facility."
I've corrected this, green indicates a doctor midwife or nurse on urgent business in NZ. 
I've also added Purple  (Magenta) for load pilots to the NZ section
Falcon5nz (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Zealand 

message: During the Tour de France there was a car running point for the bicyclists, hight also have had a combined media/safety function. It was wearing at least one red gumball. knoodelhed (talk) 18:03, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red flashing lights in France 

message: Emergency Lights code
Red and Blue: Police cars
Green: Public ambulances and private ambulances.
Red: Fire Trucks and Fire ambulances.
Amber: Tow Trucks or utility vehicles
(↓ exceptions ↓) 
All blue: Old or outdated police cars 167.58.146.153 (talk) 19:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uruguay