Talk:Central California

message: Every citation in the article seems to include Kern County as part of Central California, yet as defined in the article and according to "most sources" (undefined), Central California does not include Kern County. That definition has to do with splitting the state up evenly by latitude, but does anyone actually do that? I don't see that anywhere but Wp, which is not how things are supposed to work. Thmazing (talk) 21:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: This is driving me bananas

message: Why the disambig? I was noticing going through the Central CA links that many of them meant the Central Valley, and not the Central Coast, so I disambiged and tried to direct most of the "What Links Here"s away. Simple as that. -- Jjjsixsix (talk)/(contribs) 01:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The question then comes up, should there be an article on Central California to go along with Southern California and Northern California? Dbiel 21:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

text: *Results 1 - 10 of about 2,450,000 for "central california".
So, yes, there should be an article on Central California to go along with Southern California and Northern California.  --Born2cycle (talk) 23:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why?

message: I expanded and clarified the description of Central California, basically as the part of Northern California south of the Bay Area and the Delta and west of the Sierra crest.  It can still use more work, especially more references.  But for now the fact that it fits intuitively in the middle third of the state by latitude, and matches where I'm aware the term is actually used, should keep it non-controversial while people look for more references to improve it. Ikluft (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would Central California be a sub-section of Northern California, rather than its own region outright?  To look at this in a manner in which opinion doesn't matter, if you take the actual, physical coordinates of California, it runs from 32° 32′ N to 42° N.  The half-way point, physically, would then be around 37° - very near San Francisco!  If the state is going to be divided into two, that's one thing and subject to its own debate.  For the purpose of this article, in which the state is being divided into 3, it seems unnecessary (not to mention physically inaccurate) to simultaneously argue that Central California is for some reason also part of Northern California. Udibi (talk) 00:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Besides, many parts of Central California are plopped into Southern California when someone divides the state into only two pieces. This makes little if any sense. Thmazing (talk) 21:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded description 

message: use latest estimate if possible like 2008. i need to know how many people live in this region
99.51.212.6 (talk) 07:14, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is the population of this region?

message: its missing Inyo and mono counties  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.212.6 (talk) 07:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, as someone from Kern County, let me assure you we consider ourselves Central and not Southern. Even Britannica lists the Tehachapi Mountains as the southern edge of Central California. Thmazing (talk) 06:00, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  the map does not show all counties in region 

message: Who calls it cen-cal? I've hear of people using Nor-Cal and So-Cal for northern and southern California, but never Cen-Cal for central California. I've lived in several central California cities and never have I heard the term Cen-Cal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.170.96.104 (talk) 00:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cen-Cal? 

message: This map is not of Central Cal but of part of Central Valley. No one from CA does this. A proper map extends w to e, including the coast and mountains.
BTW, Central is centered about Carmel, so you really must go equidirectional n and S to include it as well as E-W. Look at any Map of C Cal:http://www.discover-central-california.com/central-california-map.html
Even this is disputable. Most merely mean the central coast when they say C cal.184.99.130.134 (talk) 16:09, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'm starting to carefully edit the article to remove material that violates our neutral point of view guideline, our reliable sources guideline, and our manual of style.
One factual dispute appears to be the exact definition of "Central California".  created a map that shows Central California stretching all of the way to the Nevada State line. This contradicts the previous map and the Eastern California article.
The definition of "Northern" or "Central" or "Eastern" California may not be precise enough to make maps. Do we have any reliable sources that defines "Central California"? For now, I'll revert the definition to the previous version of the article, but perhaps leave the map out until we can settle the dispute. — hike395 (talk) 16:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: just reverted all of the edits back. I'll stop editing for now. I think it would be good to get some reliable sources for the definition of "Central California". — hike395 (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Hike395, I had to. JSVSK's edits included  and  and  and  (unsourced) Schazjmd (talk) 17:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation. I would have cleaned/reverted those next, because of lack of WP:RS and WP:NPOV. But a consensus appears to be forming around full reversion, so I won't try to rescue the edits. — hike395 (talk) 17:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If you'd like to go through their edit and restore any specific useful changes, go for it! (But verify) Schazjmd (talk) 17:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fundamental contradiction in definition of Central California