Talk:Black people and Mormonism

message: I Removed the Claim that some Religious Leaders argued that Blacks have no Souls. This does not seem supported by available evidence, especially given Theologians such as Charles Hodges and John Miller and by Benedict Pictet said Animals had Souls.
I Know it is Popular for some today to say Animals have no Souls, but this was not the view of 18th or 19th Century Christians and seems a corruption, taken from Popular Imagination. It seems the concept that Man has an Immortal Soul, and and Animals do not transformed into Humans have Souls and Animals do not. It is the same as  Einstein saying He did not believe in a personal God and finding this used to say He was an Atheist, as He did not believe in God.
Still, I Can find No evidence whatsoever that any Religious Leader argued The Negro  had No Soul, and most Christian Leaders maintained the Traditional View that All Life had a Soul, and the Soul was a Prerequisite for Life.
I therefore feel it inaccurate to say Religious Leaders argued Blacks have No Souls.
SKWills (talk) 22:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The idea that black people have no souls is a fairly well-known past justification for slavery. There were some religious leaders who adopted this position. It probably doesn't need to be mentioned in this article since the view that they had no souls wasn't the predominant position of non-Mormon religious leaders that Smith's teachings are being contrasted with. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Smells of crypto Jews reversing the truth. 2A00:23C6:DF96:F001:C452:C755:A323:408E (talk) 12:44, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Negro Has No Soul Complaint

message: Hey Johnpacklambert, I noticed that you changed the title of this page from "Black people and Mormonism" to "Black people and Latter-day Saint belief." I liked the old title better. This page includes the beliefs of others churches within the Latter Day Saint movement, so "Latter-day Saint" is not accurate. "Mormon" is within the Wikipedia style guide as an umbrella term, but if we are trying to avoid it, it seems like "Beliefs of the Latter Day Saint movement about black people" would be more appropriate. What do other people think? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that something along the lines "Relationship between Black people and Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" wuld be good but I acknowledge that that title is very long. I am unsure if reffering to Mormons as Latter Day Saints (as opposed to memebrs of ...) is correct, but if it is that works. "Black people and Latter-day Saint belief" I think is good but I wonder if it is too vague.  Modernglamour13 (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Native Americans were joining the LDS Church back in the 19th century.  In 1873, the Shoshone chief Sagwitch was baptized a member, leading to the rest of his band, totalling about 100 people, also being baptized.  Sagwitch was ordained an elder in the church, and in 1875, Sagwitch and his wife were sealed in the Endowment House.  His grandson Moroni Timbimboo was the first Native American to serve as a bishop in the church. --Jburlinson (talk) 16:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page name change 

message: I propose deleting the section titled "Cooperation with the NAACP on various endevors[sic]".  It is rife with spelling and grammatical errors.  Even words in the section heading are misspelled.  There is also only one source cited, which does not support the entirety of the section.  The formatting of this source is sub-standard.  It reads more like a press release, which is what the cited source is, than part of an encyclopedia article.  Please see WP:NOTADVOCACY. In all, this section is so far below the minimal standards of the MOS that it should be re-written or deleted.--Jburlinson (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Section deleted for the above reasons.--Jburlinson (talk) 12:14, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete section on NAACP and UCF 

message: Pastelitodepapa (talk) 07:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy notes