Talk:Electronic music

message: I miss Gershon Kingsley on this page. I hope someone with enough knowledge will give him a mention later.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.211.173.214 (talk) 20:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Gershon Kingsley]] 

message: Why doesn't this article have a single mention of Hugh Lecaine?  He's an important figure int he history of electronic music and now considered to be the inventor of the first true synthesizer, yet he doesn't get a mention?Revmagpie (talk) 23:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1961 Josef Tal established the Centre for Electronic Music in Israel at The Hebrew University, and in 1962 Hugh Le Caine arrived in Jerusalem to install his Creative Tape Recorder in the centre.[46] In the 1990s Tal conducted, together with Dr Shlomo Markel, in cooperation with the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, and VolkswagenStiftung a research project (Talmark) aimed at the development of a novel musical notation system for electronic music.[47]Etan J. Tal 21:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hugh LeCaine]] 

message: Doesn't Raymond Scott's Circle Machine pre-date the RCA Mark II Sound Synthesizer as the first sequencer?  Also, doesn't Manhattan Research Inc (est. 1946) deserve a mention (Didn't Bob Moog get his start there?), along with the Clavivox, which Moog credited as an engineering blueprint for his first synth?  (Not being snarky with the questions...I'm just learning about the history of electronic music - pre-Kraftwerk and Walter/Wendy Carlos that is :P )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.16.136 (talk) 22:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Raymond Scott]] 

message: The Wire magazine claims this Egyptian as the founder of purely electronic music, based on a (now lost) 1944 piece called Ta'abir al-Zaar. Should this be mentioned? Totnesmartin 15:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Halim El-Dabh]] 

message: This article could be more properly renamed Electronics and popular music; the term Electronic art music is not largely used as it is believed here at Wikipedia, indeed, that article's main source (see Talk:Electronic art music) refers to its subject as electronic music; this is blatantly true. Oh, soon the mastodonts will shout,  poor creatures....--Doktor Who 22:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, most of the content in Electronic art music should be moved out into History of Electronic Music. Even everywhere I read, there is really no such thing as "electronic art music". Electronic music in itself summarizes everything that we talk about. -asmadeus 11:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree, but the it is true that both academical and experimental forms are still produced nowadays (not mentioning that several "giants" such as Stockhausen, Boulez and others, are living persons);  there is too much confusion and overlapping of meanings among Electronic music, Electronic dance music, and Electronica, so I think that we need to co-ordinate the work of many editors and maybe create some sort of disambig pages. --Doktor Who 11:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I moved electronic art music to History of Electronic Music. I redirect Electronica to Electronic Music. Someone reput Electronica back, reason is "lost material", it is full of OR, no sources, no lost material. Please support me. I believe some OR opinions are defending their OR with ownership --Susume-eat 07:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Names, terms, and words

message: previous RFC topics - closed with consensus to keep separate articles
There is discussion about redirecting or merging Electronica to this article at Electronic music.
The discussion is at this link:  on the Electronica talk page.   
An editor has stated the intention to make this change quickly, so if anyone wants to enter comments, now would be the time.  The editor has already moved Electronic art music to Electronic music (classical) without consensus or wider discussion.
I am posting this as a neutral Request for Comment without involving my own opinions on this, to invite editors from related music pages to participate in the discussion.  --Parsifal Hello 06:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fully support such changes, Susume-eat is making a great, wonderful job here. Parsifal, please do not revert, --Doktor Who 09:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doktor Who, I do not plan to do unilateral reverting.  I am simply inviting people to participate in the discussion.   --Parsifal Hello 09:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment:  Merging/redirecting Electronic Music articles (closed) 

message: After the above post, the editor redirected both  Electronica and Electronic dance music to Electronic music (dance & popular), causing the two separate topics to be merged in a confusing way.
Those changes were reverted by several editors, according to consensus, as of the time I write this.  Of course, that might change again, so you may find the discussions at any of those page titles.
The above discussion has since been closed with clear consensus to keep the separate article title Electronica. Parsifal Hello 03:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: throwing this out there for the sake of getting opinions. Is CM an anachronistic term, isn't electronic and computer music essentially one in the same at this stage? Is computer music simply a historic sub-category of electronic music? In academia the distinction is clearer, but the use of computer technology in music creation is now almost ubiquitous in the popular music domain so what distinctions should be made here?
From a practical stand point the Computer music article has not been expanded or improved greatly over time so it may function more effectively as a sub-section within the electronic music article. Semitransgenic (talk) 12:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: merge imo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.215.53.124 (talk) 04:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: no merJ. Computer music is strictly dijital, that is through  fingers and scripts. IOW, sampling devices and analog transforms (recording your sound card's mix of a digi-wave with radio, for instance) are excluded. BrewJay (talk) 05:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with BrewJay; Computer Music implies something akin to Ableton Live, while Electronic Music is much more broad. --TMC1221 (talk) 06:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  But isn't a computer an electronic device? Computer music strictly digital? But how can you have digital processing without electronic hardware? (CPU, motherboard, RAM, etc.) and once it leaves a DAC, and is routed to a loudspeaker, isn't the net result the same? Semitransgenic (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Electronic Music is a much broader term than computer music, it includes computer music but is not exclusive to it. Electronic music predates the invention of the personal home computer and music applications. The invention of the computer has had unquestionable impact in the expansion and growth of electronic music which only justifies and strengthens the existence of a distinct computer music article.Elmedio (talk) 18:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I must disagree, to the extent that electronic music does not include all computer music. For example, the pioneering work of Lejaren Hiller includes works composed by computer, but for performance by human players. The Illiac Suite for string quartet is the best-known example. Another case is Trimpin, who uses computers to control entirely acoustic sound sculptures. It would be absurd to discuss computer music like this in an article on electronic music.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But isn't the Hiller work an example of computer assisted composition? When academics use the term computer music are they referring to digital music or just any type of music that incorporates some element of computer technology in its production? Trimpin can do what he does - and maybe at one time he did - using a hardware based MIDI sequencer; a computerised MIDI sequencer simply takes some of the labour out of the task. But this leads into the issue of popular music, the majority of it is created using computers, but I don't hear any academics calling it computer music. Also, there is a mainstream magazine called Computer Music which deals entirely with popular music production techniques. So really, I'm just curious if it's any longer valid to call it (that is essentially electronic, or electro-acoustic) computer music, it seems somewhat anachronistic to me. Semitransgenic (talk) 10:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

text: If you like, you could call the Illiac Suite a computer-assisted composition but, to answer your second question, in my experience academics do commonly refer to it (and other pieces composed using computers, with or without digital or analogue electronic sound generation) as "computer music". I don't understand your question about Trimpin, and I would like to see some data justifying your claim that the majority of popular music is created using computers (you may be right—I'm just a little taken aback). As far as I am aware, academics do in fact include popular-music genres in their discussions of computer music, so long as computers are involved. Skimming through the tables of contents for recent issues of the Computer Music Journal, for example, turns up some articles specifically focussed on jazz or pop (vol. 32/2, 32/1, 29/3, 28/3, etc.), though the great majority are technique-oriented and do not point at any particular style or genre. Reviews in nearly every issue include popular-music genres. It sounds to me as if you may be confusing means of sound production with compositional genre.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Trimpin could accomplish the same results with something like a Roland MC-50, if it's simply a matter of MIDI sequencing, a computer is not necessary, that's really all I was pointing out. The majority of commercial recording studios use a DAW, once material is recorded, editing, and in many cases audio manipulation, happens in the digital domain, technically it may be computer assisted composition, but the entire production regime, from recording through to mastering, is now computer dependent. I'm not confused regarding means of sound production and genre naming, that confusion exists, and is part of the problem associated with deciding what to call this, that, or the other. The term "Electronic music" once related specifically to means of production, now it largely refers to a genre of music, yet that is not clear either because many genres of electronic music exist. So is computer music a genre or a term that relates to means of production? Semitransgenic (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand how Trimpin could manipulate his sound-sculptures with a Roland MC-50, but perhaps you are right. This does not change the fact that he uses computers, however. There is also the issue, I suppose, of where to draw the line between a digital synthesizer and a computer, but I will leave that to more expert minds. It may be true that there is now a genre called Electronic Music but, if so, I am not aware of it. On the other hand, I am quite familiar with a vast quantity of music in many genres that employ electronics, and which people conventionally describe as "electronic music". Consequently, I would have to say that the term applies chiefly to the means of production. The same is true of computer music, perhaps even more emphatically.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree, but I also get the impression confusion still exists, particularly in the popular domain. Regarding Trimpin, from what I've read here, he has used standard MIDI sequencing software for a number of his works; an MC-50 can do basically the same but is obviously extremely limited in comparison. How would you feel about possibly renaming the article 'Electronic and computer music', after Manning, that way any confusion that might exist can be put to rest. Semitransgenic (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

text: There is always confusion. It seems to me that one purpose of any reference, including Wikipedia, is to help remedy confusion and clarify distinctions. I don't think that renaming or combining these articles is a good idea at all, for reasons I have already stated. At some point, distinctions have got to be made, and I think the present distinction is a good one. Otherwise, where do we stop? Merge all music topics into a single article titled "Music"?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: a single article entitled music? hardly. However, in relation to the following items: Computer generated music, Computer-Aided Algorithmic Composition, Computer assisted composition, all are simply subsections of Computer music and in my opinion should be contained in one complete article, rather than having multiple stubs, or otherwise incomplete articles. Such entires currently serve specialist audiences only. At least if everything is in one place when a reader goes to computer music they will be exposed to other relevant information without having to click through three pages to get a complete overview.This is simply an ideological difference with regard to the use of mergers. Semitransgenic (talk) 08:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I had no idea that these three articles existed, and I would support the merger of them into the main Computer music article.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer music merge 

message: Who messed this article up? Somebody needs to fix it. And, redirect electronica and electronic dance music to electronic music. It's all the same thing. Auto Racing Fan (talk) 15:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Electronic music article needs to be fixed 

message: In the first part of the article, it compares Edison's invention with Raymond Scott's in the use of cylinders. If anyone knows which one it is, please put in the necessary explanation/hyperlink, I'm curious. --JDitto (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted! It looks like a preceding sentence must have been deleted, but  can't find the missing information anywhere in the edit archive back as far as January 2007, so it has been gone a long time. It is doubly confusing because of the mention later in the article of Raymond Scott, and a photograph of his 1971 Electronium. The Scott meant here is Édouard-Léon Scott de Martinville, who invented a machine for visually recording sounds in 1857. I will se what I can do to repair this one small blotch in a blotch-ridden article.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott's Device? 

message: The following is largely erroneous and not supported by the citation provided: Today, the term electronic music serves to differentiate music that uses electronics as its focal point or inspiration, from music that uses electronics mainly in service of creating an intended production that may have some electronic elements in the sound but does not focus upon them. Semitransgenic (talk) 17:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are quite right. I would suggest replacing the dodgy claim with the quotation now in the footnote. Either that, or just eliminate the sentence and its non-supporting citation.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just reduced the material in the lede to the bare essentials for the time being, to avoid potential confusion, can be adjusted to reflect the rest of the article, as it develops. Is the electromechanical/electronic instrument distinction really required? Semitransgenic (talk) 17:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Paring down the lede sounds like a good plan to me (though there is still a lot of the clutter in the footnotes—my rule of thumb is, "if it is important enough to keep, it is important enough to have in the main text"). I personally would like to keep the distinction between electromechanical instruments and instruments which actually generate sound with electronic circuitry.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. The distinction will ideally need to be outlined more clearly in the main body of text if it is touched upon in the lede. Right now it's not overtly stated, electromechanical instruments are featured as precursors to the first electronic instruments but the issue of distinction is not raised, and it is not something non specialist readers will be clear about. This may also be an issue when covering musique concrete. Semitransgenic (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Electronium.jpg

message: I contest vividly the image used by the paragraph "The 2000s" and labelled as "a performance using electronic instruments"; although the labelling is vague enough, the image clearly depicts a deejay mixing MP3s with his laptop and also CDs using a simple audio mixing board and 2 Pioneer CD players, so it cannot be representative of anything in this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.161.177.141 (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image problem

message: Currently, the article, and Wikipedia in general, doesn't say much about this matter. The only exceptions I've come across are these pages: German electronic music, Suomisaundi. Since the '80s there have emerged many regional scenes (especially in Europe) of various forms of electronic music, so "localized" info describing them is needed. If this is thought to be far beyond the scope of this article, I'd propose to create a template called "Electronic music around the world" (compare with : "Punk music around the world") and articles on each notable scene be created as part of the a "providing content to the template" project. Omnipedian (talk) 05:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Electronic music regional national scenes

message: Is this article written by senior citizens? 'Electronic music is so popular today that it is even played in nightclubs', by god, this happened in the 70's! Almost all music in nightclubs is completely electronic apart form the vocals. Also, 'advances in microprocessor technology increased viability of digital music production', what? 'advances in microprocessor technology', another sentence from the 80's, this stuff is laughably out of date and supplies us with no real information. 
I'm also very much in favor of a page or section dedicated to 'electronic music around the world' as the above commenter suggests; I'm personally from Europe and there's indeed many, very interesting and potent regional sounds that deserve attention. A lot of stuff now going strong in Europe has it's roots in the US; techno, hiphop, house all emerged from there, so I presume there's still something interesting going on Statesside as well?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.144.73 (talk) 19:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your opinion of our hard work. I trust you are prepared to improve on it, since you have so many suggestions. There is such a large number of genres that they get a whole separate List of electronic music genres. This is linked from this article in the "See also" section. You must have overlooked it. Are there any "famous groups" these days that are not electronic in some way? This would have to amount to a list of thousands. I don't understand your other questions. What is "the sound" of electronic music, and how can it be described? What sort of examples do you have in mind: links to audio samples, or lists of pieces? There are apparently some audio samples at Wikimedia Commons (linked at the bottom of the article). While it is true that only a few titles are already mentioned, again because of the ubiquity of electronics in music since about 1980, thousands of titles could be added, but an indiscriminate list would scarcely be helpful. Where do we draw the line?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:27, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Written by grandpa?

message: Is there a page for the following music:
 -Elctro by Autopilot
 -Helium Disco by -Unknown-
Darkened wiki (talk) 16:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Electro by Autopilot

message: Is there a page for the following music:
 -Electronica by Plague Doktor
 -Electronic music composer St. Richard  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.239.8.90 (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Electronica by Plague Doktor

message: This article is totally misleading and poor. Where are Luciano Berio, Bruno Maderna, Luigi Nono, the experience of the Studio di Fonologia Musicale, in Milan, in the fifties?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.161.28 (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are suggesting that all of the current content of the article should be deleted in favour of just Italian composers of the 1950s, I believe you will meet with a certain amount of resistance. On the other hand, if the article is so "totally misleading", surely there must be a lot more wrong with it than just this one tiny detail which can, after all, easily be remedied. Apart from Italy (though Nono's electronic music was largely produced in Germany), it seems there is almost nothing on the very important activities in Stockholm, and not one Swedish composer is named. Poland is also conspicuous by its absence, and yet the Warsaw studio was as important in the 1950s and 60s as the Studio di Fonologia. This should be enough to be getting on with, so far as omissions are concerned. Now, in what way do you find what is here "poor"?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Italians

message: Er... Why are "chiptunes" listed in the 2000s? This is something we did in the 80s and 90s; it has just recently gone through a retro-trend phase, to be sure, but it is certainly not a new innovation of the 2000s. 174.53.187.118 (talk) 17:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  2000s? 

message: http://www.popcorn-song.com/origin.php  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 (talk) 23:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it rock music?--SabreBD (talk) 23:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popcorn was a huge early electronic hit song and should be mentioned in the article 

message: Should dubstep be added to the list? as I understand that it usually uses synthetic instruments.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.206.170 (talk) 20:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubstep?

message: I really think we should have an audio example in here somewhere of what electric music sounds like. (That's what I came here looking for.) Is it just an issue of finding electronic music that isn't copyrighted already? -TeragR (talk) 16:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That would not be very different from putting one audio clip on the Music article to illustrate what music sounds like! Perhaps it would be useful to put in a number of different sound clips to illustrate the variety of different musics that have used electronic generation. This might run into the copyright issue you ask about, but in many important areas it would also come up against the problem of finding any examples at all. To take one instance from near the beginning of the article, there are no recordings so far as I am aware of a Telharmonium (though if I am wrong about this, someone please correct me, because I would love to know what that behemoth actually sounded like). On the other hand, assuming the copyright problem could be averted it would probably require close to a hundred different examples to represent fairly the different kinds of electronic music just from the second half of the 20th century. Indeed,  the "Electroacoustic tape music" and "Musique concrète" sections would need at least half a dozen examples each, just to give a rough idea of the different genres and styles found using these techniques in the 1950s alone.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio clip 

message: Hi,
I've made this comprehensive "phylogeny" of electronic music genres and sub-genres.
By creating an image map, every genre box could link to a wiki article and "play" buttons would be links to a song example of each genre.
What do you think? Would it be useful in this article?
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thread_title:  Electronic music phylogeny (genealogy) 

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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Electronic music]] for deletion 

message: I have huge issues both with the definition of dub as a variety of electronic music and with the section describing it here, which I will reproduce so that I can make my points more clearly:
In Jamaica, a form of popular electronic music emerged in the 1960s, dub music, rooted in sound system culture. Dub music was pioneered by studio engineers, such as Sylvan Morris, King Tubby, Errol Thompson, Lee "Scratch" Perry, and Scientist, producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology, in recording studios and at sound system parties. Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète, an emphasis on repetitive rhythmic structures (often stripped of their harmonic elements) comparable to minimalism, the electronic manipulation of spatiality, the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media, deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music, remixing music, turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl.
Despite the limited electronic equipment available to dub pioneers such as King Tubby and Lee "Scratch" Perry, their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge. King Tubby, for example, was a sound system proprietor and electronics technician, whose small front-room studio in the Waterhouse ghetto of western Kingston was a key site of dub music creation
1. Dub as we know it with use of echo, equalisation etc. didn't emerge in the 1960s. Dub plates with some or all of the vocal track removed to facilitate a deejay talking/chanting/toasting over the recording in a dance but with no other effects originated c. 1968-69. The use of more obviously creative "dub" effects evolved in the early 1970s.
2. "producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology". Dub (in its original 1970s Jamaican iteration) wasn't "reggae influenced" - it was reggae, with a more creative mix. Pure and simple. And in terms of "electronic sound technology", the vast majority of 1970s Jamaican dub simply used the mixing desk with echo, reverb and equalisation effects. While these devices are undoubtedly electronic, they were also used - usually in a more restrained style - in the straight vocal versions that most dub tracks were mixes of. Which rather begs the question of where do you draw the line? Nearly all popular music played on electric and/or acoustic (i.e. non-electronic) instruments uses these and other electronic technology. Amplifiers contain electronics.
3. "Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète" Not usually they didn't. This isn't an argument for dub being electronic music.
4. "electronic manipulation of spatiality". Panning. Again, something that's present on pretty much every stereo recording of popular music, it's just a matter of degree. And a large proportion of 70s dub is mono.
5. "the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media". The exact meaning of this sentence isn't entirely clear, but if it means interpolating bits of unrelated recordings into a dub mix, it's another rare exception that doesn't define dub and isn't an argument for it being electronic music.
6. "deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music". What does this even mean?
7. "turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl". Yet another rare exception in 70s dub music - I've never heard scratching in 70s dub, and very rarely interpolations of music from another record.
8. "their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge". I don't dispute for one moment how musically cutting-edge they were. But what is an "experiment in remix culture"?
While dub has hugely influenced much electronic music and in some cases, especially later on, is electronic music because it features electronically generated sounds, the 1970s Jamaican music that defined dub in the first place is in nearly all cases no more electronic than the vocal versions that most dub tracks are remixes of. I can't see what makes, for example, "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown" by Augustus Pablo electronic when the vocal version of the same recording, "Baby I Love You So" by Jacob Miller isn't. They were both mixed in King Tubby's studio by King Tubby on the same equipment. Neither features any electronic instrumentation or tape manipulation, so such electronic equipment as was used in the creation of the former was used in the creation of the latter - which isn't considered electronic. Either they both are or neither are. The implication of the inclusion of dub as a variety of electronic music is that the use of a mixing desk, reverb, eq and other effects makes it electronic, but this is common to nearly all popular music - the only difference with dub is one of degree and intent and the dividing line is extremely diffuse if not impossible to define clearly. I think this section should be removed.Freewheeling frankie (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dub 

message: I shortened the lead. Most of the paragraphs were about the historical development of electronic music. I summarized the content in one paragraph and move some sentences to its historical section. However, most of them were already covered. --Thevictorator95 (talk) 02:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, per MOS:LEADNO, but this is an inadequate lead, oversimplification, ignores historical development in favor of recentism. Per MOS:LEAD, don't see what the problems is, lead length is fine relative to article detail. Acousmana (talk) 12:27, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made an attempt to shorten and tighten lead, article covers a lot of ground, ideally we want to touch on the most important aspects in the lead without rambling. Acousmana (talk) 11:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortened the lead 

message: One gets the impression from this article that, following the 1960s, all formal and classical electronic music and composition ceased, and for the next 50 years everything done in electronic music was pop, dance, and mostly keyboard-based instruments.  This is a very one-sided -- and not at all accurate -- portrayal of electronic music.
Also, more of a distinction could be made between "music played on electronic instruments" (e.g., "Switched-on Bach" or any number of pop/dosco bands", and "electronic music" (e.g. music composed specifically for, and only playable (in original form) on electronic instruments).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 19:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: it's not intentional, simply the way the article has been haphazardly pieced together over the years, but you are welcome to contribute, and help flesh out the academic/institutional advances that took place in the same period - note this is touched on, but not detailed to the extent you suggest. Some of the articles that are linked in the main body (computer music, algorithmic music, live electronics etc.) also provide additional context. Acousmana (talk) 20:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased? 

message: On List of electronic music genres, it says "...consisting of genres of electronic music, primarily created with electronic musical instruments or electronic music technology. A distinction has been made between sound produced using electromechanical means and that produced using electronic technology.". Isn't  electronic music just an umbrella term, not a genre? Is this as same case as "ballad" music? Because the definition of electronic music, simply, is "a music that using electronic instrumental". GogoLion (talk) 13:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this just an umbrella term? 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Electronic music's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "billboard":
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 10:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Electronic music]] 

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message: Modern Music critics often describe songs as "Electro" but it seems like they use it as a short form for Electronic rather then a short form for "Electro-funk". Ravenfate (talk) 22:38, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Electro" is a short form for Electronic?