Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Jewish culture

message: Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on the WikiProject X proposal 

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thread_title:  WikiProject X is live! 

message: Members of this wikiproject may be interested in the featured article nomination for Borscht. A source review would be particularly appreciated. — Kpalion(talk) 06:05, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borscht FAC 

message: You are invited...	
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Women in Jewish History worldwide online edit-a-thon
*Hosts: Women in Red, Center for Jewish History, Wikimedia NYC
*1 to 15 June 2016
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--Ipigott (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish Women's History Online Editathon

message: I happened to see a comment in Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian football that led me to an article with a section about antisemtism. Should the article’s talkpage be tagged with this wikiproject's banner? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Ottawahitech. I may be the only editor who belongs to both WP:WikiProject African diaspora and this WikiProject. Maybe I should create an infobox!  If you want an answer to your question, you ought to ask it at WT:WikiProject Judaism, which is the active WikiProject for Judaism-related articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just caught me on the way out :-) I thought about posting this to wp: WikiProject Judaism, but I have been told (somewhere, sometime, on wikipedia) that Judaism is about the religion, and jewish is about the ethnic group. Thanks for remembering to ping me btw.  Ottawahitech (talk) 00:39, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Ottawahitech. You're correct; Judaism is a religion, philosophy, culture, and way of life; Jews are people. Although there have been efforts over the years to create WikiProjects about non-religious Jewish subjects—Jewish culture, Jewish history, the Jewish Encyclopedia (1901–1906), even American Jews—almost all have faded because of lack of interest and only two remain: WP:WikiProject Judaism and WP:WikiProject Jewish Women. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about the scope of this wikiproject 

message: On March 8 (International Women's Day), and as part of the Art+Feminism project, Shoshana Gugenheim and the Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve articles about Jewish women artists. Click here for more information. You can also express interest or suggest article to create or improve here. Remote participation is also welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon in Portland, Oregon: Jewish Women Artists (March 8) 

message: The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
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Thank you.     — The Transhumanist    10:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject collaboration notice from the [[WP:WPPORT|Portals WikiProject]] 

message: On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace.  On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.
There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.
Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.
So far, 84 editors have joined.
If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.
If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.
Thank you.     — The Transhumanist    10:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: Can someone please 'adopt' this article and make it passable for WP:DYK? IMO it is a notable subject, but IMO WPDYK wpdyk turned into a walled garden nominating selves or each other, and their rules grew formal arcanity. I have troubles with using computer: it took me over 5 hours to write this stub, and unfortunately I am leaving it now. - Altenmann >talk 23:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. I am not going to nominate it for DYK myself. I consider doing this bad taste or a symptom of wikiholism.- Altenmann >talk 16:45, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Yiddish Glory]]

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message: I was wondering how do you define who is Jewish on Wikipedia since being Jewish seems to cross between religious and ethnic/cultural categories (i left the same post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism). What would be sufficient sourcing? I have searched all the relevant help pages but cannot seem to find a definitive answer. Assigning religious identity to living people requires self-identification (Wikipedia:BLPCAT) while deceased people may be identified without self-identification (e.g. "services were held at Temple xxxx"). Being Jewish as an ethnicity does not seem to require such a high hurdle (Wikipedia:ETHNICRACECAT). I was told that in order to designate a person as Jewish I would need multiple irrevocable sources that specifically state that the reference is referring to ethnicity in order to include. As most citations do not specify whether the subject is Jewish by faith or descent, they would not be sufficient.  For example, Edits to Maurice Kremer (1824–1907) have been removed since I do not have multiple sources and the one I do have does not specify whether it refers to religion or ethnicity. 
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and Evelyn Danzig Haas have been removed despite having an interview where she states she was confirmed and her parents attended temple during the high holy days
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and despite her funeral being held at Congregation Emanu-El (San Francisco) 
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For living people, I am told that I need to demonstrate a verified consensus of reliable sources that indicate that their being Jewish is key to their notability in addition to self-identification. see Bruce Berkowitz with three sources deemed insufficient 
*The Jewish Businessman Who Beats Warren Buffett At His Own Game. 19 July 2009
*Forbes: "Bruce Berkowitz Dances Quietly to the Beat of His Own Investment Drum" "He is of Jewish descent and is active in his community. The value investor donated $6.75 million to the Center for Jewish History in 2011." 
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If this is the standard, it seems that there will be very few Jewish biographies left (I was perusing "Jewish writers" and very few would stand up to this level of scrutiny). Patapsco913 (talk) 18:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Identifying who is Jewish

message: A discussion of Lists of Jewish people on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Coffee removing Categories and Lists Inappropriately has been started. I would imagine it will also encompass what sourcing is required to define someone as Jewish.Patapsco913 (talk) 14:21, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: FYI

message: Would anyone care to take a look at Draft:Sayanim and improve it beforeit goes to mainspace? Thanks.BlueD954 (talk) 04:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft:Sayanim 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Kristen Stewart § Jewish ancestry, again.  Discussion of identifying someone as having an ethnic or national ancestry. Sundayclose (talk) 19:18, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[:Talk:Kristen Stewart#Jewish ancestry, again|Talk:Kristen Stewart §&nbsp;Jewish ancestry, again]]

message: Does WikiProject Judaism or WikiProject Jewish history have guidelines for when to classify subjects of biographic articles as "Jewish", "people of Jewish descent", etc? I have not seen any such guidance. I have noticed that many editors, who may be coming from a non-Jewish perspective and may not understand Jewish identity, inaccurately classify many Jews as non-Jews. I have seen Jewish descriptors removed from articles about secular Jews, formerly religious Jews referred to as "former Jews", and so forth. I have seen people placed into categories as being merely "people of Jewish descent", when they are indeed Jews. These presumably non-Jewish editors seem to not comprehend that Jewish identity is not only a religious identity, but a socio-cultural and ethnic identity as well. I have also seen non-Jewish Messianic Christians classified as Jews, when Jewish communities and Jewish movements overwhelmingly reject this self-identification.
One more issue; the categories for Ashkenazim, Sephardim, etc. There seems to be no guidance for when to classify a person as Ashkenazi or Sephardi. The categories are currently organized according to ancestry. People with both Ashkenazi and Sephardi ancestors are typically categorized as both. Ashkenazi and Sephardi identity is more complicated than that. Being Ashkenazi or Sephardi can be considered a person's minhag, their ethnicity, or both. An Ashkenazi Orthodox woman who marries a Sephardi man may adopt her husband's minhag and consider herself Sephardi. A person with mixed ancestry and an Ashkenazi father may only consider themselves Ashkenazi, due to minhag being passed down on the patrilineal line. A convert through Chabad will adopt an Ashkenazic minhag. I think it would be useful to clarify these distinctions in articles and categories and clearly state how we are classifying people.
For these reasons and others, I think it could be useful to have inclusive but clear guidelines for determining Jewish identity. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish identity guidelines 

message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Songs of thanksgiving (pesukei dezimra)#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move at [[Talk:Songs of thanksgiving (pesukei dezimra)#Requested move 10 January 2024]]