Talk:List of folk metal bands

message: I removed Bathory and Borknagar, both have more Black/Viking elements and absolutely no folk. Darksteel 13:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I removed bands that do not list folk/metal/pagan/celtic/whatever-redirects-to-folk metal on their pages. --Dayn 07:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed Bathory (proto-viking at best), Battlelore (epic fantasy), Die Apokalyptischen Reiter (death/thrash), added "(early)" after Moonspell (it was death/black next and is now black/gothic according to Encyclopedia Metallum), System of a Down (how did this get in here?), and Tanzwut (classified as medieval rock, not folk/medieval metal) JRDarby 16:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removals 

message: I question the inclusion of Viking Metal within the folk metal list. I realize that viking metal appeals to a certain type of folk-ish crowd, but is it really folk itself? Or, alternatively, is the difference small enough to allow its inclusion? JRDarby 16:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viking Metal 

message: Should Orphaned Land be in there? Although they don't have any Celtic or Viking influences, they do have middle-eastern folk influence. Just wondering.  ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE  12:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Their predominance as prog seems to take away from their folkish "influences." I would say no. JRDarby 00:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it will be hard for Oriental metal bands to be noticed. Hardly any of them get linked at any major/general articles but at the oriental article. If a basis of their composition is folk then I think it should be added. Or that would be against most folk bands that happen to play folk in their own ethnic style, so it seems the list is biased against any groups other than European, where the scene most prominently took off. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  00:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course Orphaned Land should be included in the list. They are primarily known as a folk metal band first and foremost with progressive tendencies second. Folk metal is not and has never been exclusive to european folk. --Bardin (talk) 11:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Folk metal is not and has never been exclusive to european folk." Of coarse not but the list just looks like that's where folk metal most prominently took off. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  21:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned Land 

message: Would anyone object if I take out the country names in ( )?  The List of power metal bands, List of progressive metal artists, and others just have the country flags, and I think it looks much less cluttered that way. Gueneverey 03:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it :) thanks JRDarby 06:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I ended up finishing it up myself yesterday but forgot to say so. Great idea :) JRDarby 22:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Countries)? 

message: I thought the article looked odd without a flag icon next to Waylander when every other band has one. I erroneously assumed that was a mere oversight by past editors. I was not aware that there's an issue with the Northern Ireland flag until I noticed that JRDarby removed the flag icon. So if the Ulster Banner cannot be used, should the Union Jack flag be used instead? Or is Waylander forever going to be without flag in this list. Would it make a difference if the band has a preference? Just wondering. --Bardin (talk) 04:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really sure how to treat it myself. I only removed the flag icon because BigDunc had done it before me using WP:Flag and I realized it was correct. :\ JRDarby (talk) 19:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a problem with using flags IMO as NI has no flag it is wrong to use the Ulster Banner. See hereBigDunc (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waylander / Flag Issue 

message: I raised this issue at the reliable sources noticeboard and it's been archived here. I was told that reliable sources can make mistakes and we should use our editorial judgment. The New York Times article being used to support Ulver is full of mistakes, inventing non-existent neologism ("trench metal", "new york squatter metal", "extreme ambient", "machine assisted metal", "turncoat metal"), mixing up genres (sludge/stoner, black ambient/darkwave), and misidentifying bands (Pantera/Sepultura/Brutal Truth/Kreator as power metal), etc. If Ulver and Einherjer are really folk metal, surely there would be other multiple sources saying as much and we won't have to use this error-filled NYT article at all. --Anarchodin (talk) 05:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to refrain yourself from reverting the anonymous editor if he or she adds the Ulver entry again as that would be an edit war and it will get you blocked. As you can see from the above entry on this talk page, I was not able to find any reliable sources describing Ulver as a folk metal band when I rewrote/revamp the folk metal article and this accompanying list. Consequently, I excluded them from both article and list, as I did with those other acts that I listed above. I did not encounter this article from the New York Times and I have no idea how I would have reacted to it if I had read it back then. I think the response from the reliable sources noticeboard is right in that reliable sources can make mistake. Allmusic, for instance, is a reliable source but among other things, it tags Nightwish as a symphonic black metal band. That's the sort of thing where we should use our "editorial judgment". Anyway, your suggestion sounds fine to me. I actually feel that every entry on these sort of lists should have multiple sources, not just those that are contentious or in dispute. --Bardin (talk) 16:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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