Talk:Sam Fisher (Splinter Cell)

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As seen in the above link, his birthplace is referenced as being Towson, Maryland.
His year of birth is 1957, it was referenced long ago in the manual of Chaos Theory and in the ingame paperwork of Double Agent, making him 53 years old in Conviction. 203.166.254.105 (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sam Fisher's Year and Place of Birth

message: at the bottom of the article it says hes a german american where does it say hes of german desent?--Chaos2501 (talk) 11:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: german desent?

message: It would be noteworthy to include what media he was in when he stated he was "A pumpkin that hunts penguins for the phone company", as I don't know and I'd imgaine most don't.
In Pandora Tommorrow, it was quoted by a man (whose name I do not remember) trapped in a freezing tank. Sam Fisher announces sarcastically that he works for the phone company and he needs his phone to track down Norman Soth (AKA Mortified Penguin). Sam being called a pumpkin is a Cinderella reference. Sam wishes the night to be over due to the situation and the man jests that he will turn into a pumpkin.70.231.239.1 10:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: General

message: Though I've never seen an official note about the SC and SC20k being based on their real world counterparts (it's fairly obvious) the connection is already mentioned.  Adding it again is redundant so please stop.
Someone seems convinced that Sam's multipurpose launcher is an F303: Wrong. It fires a variety of less lethal 40mm ammunition, whereas the F303 can only fire .68 caliber riot rounds typically filled with Oleoresin Capsicum(pepper spray). This conclusion is supported by the weapon's in-game model, which is almost identical to FN Herstal's underslung grenade launcher, and very much unlike the F303. Furthermore, the F303 fires from a 15-round rotary magazine, whereas the game's multipurpose launcher is loaded one round at a time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.55.25.64  (talk • contribs) .
*I seem to remember the first Splinter Cell's instruction manual referring to the grenade launcher under the SC-20K as an F2000. Just trying to make sure I'm not the only one who noticed that, or if I read wrong or something. Woodrow Buzard 04:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapon Notes

message: I removed this quote: "The website for the third game established that by this point he was a SEAL, fully integrated with his team and deploying into the Middle East from a carrier." It was established clear in the beginning of the second game that Sam Fisher was a SEAL. I also edited this passage to reflect this. Gibson Cowboy 15:45, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A little bio change

message: Could someone determine Fisher's age? I read somewhere that he was 54 in CT. Would be nice if someone could clear this up.
Sam Fisher is born in 1957. It says so in the booklet (NOTE: booklet NOT book!!!) of CT. (Pay attention now!!!)
The book probably isn't cannical to the main series- judging from Fisher's diffrent personality, 3rd Echelon's diffrent roster of employees and how exactly Fisher's job operates- so the bits about him gleamed from the book- like his wife's death- may not, in turn, have actually happened in the real series. It would probably be best if this was mentioned.
According to the Splinter Cell : Double Agent booklet, Fisher's age set to 43!
The Booklet said Sam Fisher is born in 1966. This new age setting would make the old Fisher's family setting unconvinced.
That makes him around the same age as Michael Jackson70.132.3.225 03:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: Does anyone know why Fisher is average at 5'10" instead of taller? I mean, are clandestine operatives supposed to be compactly built?
  I guess if he was taller, he wouldn't be able to crawl and sneak so easily...¨83.243.30.224
And why does it say he's 5'9" in the bio, but 5'10 on the panel? Besides that, he looks much taller in-game, and is usually taller than all the enemies.
He usually appears taller when close to enemies because when he grabs people he forces their knees to bend at a 45 degree angle, making them appear a whole head shorter while being held. Also when approaching an enemy he is usually crouched and not displaying his actual height.70.132.3.225 03:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height -- silly question 

message: '5.7 mm ammo is touted by FN to be able to penetrate NATO kevlar vests and helmets...' using the ss190 round, yes. but yes, a suppressor would also reduce its effectiveness
-Lordraydens 09:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Five-seveN

message: I don't think he's a "no-nonsense type of guy", at all. If it wasn't for the constant (in-)jokes over the OPSAT, then maybe then I would approve. --nlitement [talk] 20:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A gruff and no-nonsense type of person" 

message: I added some information on the clothing Sam wears on his missions, in the game. Though I think it might need some improvement. So if anybody could look into it, and might add some stuff, I would appreciate it --Jort227 16:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clothing 

message: I think you should also include why the sc-20k was a modification of th fn2000 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gothica3333 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SC-20K 

message: Someone mentioned that Sam's "hero sense" has been in the series throughout. When spotted or arousing suspicion of the enemy, the player is always alerted by a distinct sound, with an accompanying change in the dynamic music soundtrack. I'd call it a "dunk" sound don't you guys think? You can hear the sound in the multiplayer games when someone grabs their opponent or gets grabbed.
:The "dunk" sound, as you put it, is called a atinger.  Arrowdynamicsx (talk) 10:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of "Hero Sense", I have noticed in many first-person shooters (Splinter Cell series, Hitman Blood Money, etc.) that lights can be seen through seemingly solid and opaqe objects (I.E. the player). What's up with that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.157.153 (talk) 23:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh... probably just problems with the engine. --58.165.137.30 (talk) 09:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A certain sound" 

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message: Why is this section blank?... _> MonstaPro:Talk:Contrib. 00:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: As there are many game plot-points discussed in the course of the article, surely there should be some note made that the article contains spoilers?.... _> MonstaPro:Talk:Contrib. 00:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler template 

message: has it been confirmed that conviction follows the ending that lambert lives or dies? please tell which one.--drumman8510 05:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lambert? 

message: Am I pulling at straws here or does the main image not justify what Sam Fischer look like? we need a picture of him in trifocals as the 4 previous games instead of the current one?Wikimindless 20:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image?

message: As a long time Splinter Cell fan I'm quite surprised that his middle name is Leo, as it is never mentioned in the games (PC versions). The article says: "His full name, Samuel Leo Fisher, is seen when he was using the computer in the Osprey to encrypt his call home in Splinter Cell". I checked every video sequence and there is NO hint that Sam's middle name is Leo. The only thing the computer in the Osprey says is "Samuel Fisher Residence". Could somebody confirm that Samuel Leo Fisher is correct?
Its not.86.40.178.12 (talk) 18:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Samuel '''Leo''' Fisher?

message: Sam's iconic goggles often raise the question:  Why does it have three lenses if Sam has two eyes?  It's never been officially commented on (that I know of), other than in a roundabout way in production notes regarding the fact that Night Vision and Thermal would normally not be in one pair of goggles in real life with today's technology; much too complicated.  But they took artistic liberty because it would just be awkward to having him constantly switching.
Anyway, there are a handful of theories for what lens #3 does, all of which are pure speculation at this time:
1.  It's an large Infrared Emitter, a common item on night vision goggles that provide a light source only goggles can see.  Like the emitters on the penthouse cameras in Chaos Theory.  It's a lot bigger than most of them are, though.
2.  It's the thermal vision part, separated from the two night vision lenses due to technical restrictions.  It works by channeling its monocular point of view down to Sam's two eye pieces.  This is somewhat plausible since most thermal cams are not binocular, but only receive the image through one lens.
3.  It has many functions (some above included), most of which were added as sequels came out, like laser mic, EEV, or electromagnetic vision.
While there's no confirmation, this can live here for now for curious fans. Legitimus 17:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's to be cool. If you play spies versus mercenaries, the spies have some really weird goggles.76.235.211.59 (talk) 19:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Three-lensed goggles

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message: In the Personality section, it dosen't discuss the meaning of "I wouldn't shoot an old friend" when Fisher shoots Shetland. I was thinking that it meant that Fisher no longer considered Shetland as a friend anymore (Because of Shetland's betrayal) when he shoots him, or that he considers Shetland to not be the same man he once knew, but a fanatic who's hatred for his country made him a man responsible for the deaths of thousands.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.202.224 (talk) 18:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's actually a dual meaning, because the player can choose what to do.  Fisher can shoot Shetland, taken to indicate Shetland is no longer a friend or is no longer the same person.  Or Fisher can holster his gun, to which Shetland raises his gun again to kill Fisher, but Fisher stabs him, which technically is not "shooting" an old friend.Legitimus (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shetland and Fisher 

message: If you read in Splinter Cell: Fallout, he is also fluent in German since he poses as a German Photogragher to keep his cover from the North Koreans. Assuming his profile is based also on the novels. Check page 254 of this book.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shizukadan (talk • contribs) 16:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  sam's language capabilities 

message: I think that it should be written that Sam from the game differs from the novel series.Novels took many departures from the main storyline.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.133.100.140 (talk) 04:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canon 

message: Why is the knife in the Wikipedia page listed as a Benchmade Nimravus? There is no sourced material that suggests it's a Nimravus, and the picture doesn't resemble a nimravus at all. The knife in the picture has an opening stud (Thumb stud), and a lanyard hole very typical of folding knives. There is no evidence saying the knife is a Nimravus, and the picture looks nothing like one either. The blade shape is different, the grinding is different, the point is different, the serrations are different, the knife has a thumb stud, etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.224.250 (talk) 14:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benchmade Nimravus? 

message: My main problem is that Fisher is listed as having been a Delta operator in "Checkmate," but a Navy SEAL (ST-3, DEVGRU) in the games. It's completely implausible to be transferred from Delta Force - a US Army unit - to the Navy SEALS. You don't just get transferred from one military branch to another.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.253.217.55 (talk) 20:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How "cannon" are the books? 

message: It said on bewaresamfisher.com back when it was still around on the Sam Fisher profile that he was a widower, yet in this article it says that he divorced her, his status couldn't be widower if he divorced her.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.3.137 (talk) 01:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sam's wife 

message: It says that Sam graduated from the Naval Academy, and rose to the officer rank of Lieutenant Commander, but during the Iraq "Highway of Death" flashback in Conviction, Sam is noted as a squad leader - a position usually held by a sergeant or staff sergeant. Which is it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moore103 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naval Officer or NCO? 

message: In the Russian version voiced by Valery Storozhik (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BA,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87). Please add.
Done.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.129.6.6 (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Voiced by

message: The 20mm sniper attachment can go through not only armor, but the bullet can also go through some walls.76.235.211.59 (talk) 19:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  20mm sniper attachment 

message: The article mentions Sam Fisher is right-handed. Is there a source to confirm this? In the latest installment, Splinter Cell Conviction, he seems to be wearing his watch on his right arm, which is more common amongst left-handed people (right-handed people usually wear their watch on their left arm). This would also explain his ambidexterity, ambidexterity is more common amongst left-handed people. Quote from the Ambidexterity-article:
:In modern times, it is more common to find people considered ambidextrous who were originally left handed and who learned to be ambidextrous either deliberately or during childhood institutions such as schools where right-handed habits are often emphasized or required.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.174.40.76 (talk) 13:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that is convincing evidence at all for handiness either way; for example, I am left-handed and wear my watch on my left arm. Commonality does not mean irrefutable evidence, and regardless, basing anything in the article on that would run afoul of WP:OR. かんぱい！ Scapler (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Right-handed or left-handed? 

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