Talk:MD Anderson Cancer Center

message: There is some bias but what is wrong with bias? Of equal bias is to use the center's own web page to promulgate what should be skeptically evaluated as polished "spin doctor" rhetoric.
To use the analogy of writing this article with the writing of a historical report: The reporting of history by a historian does not lie in just listing the facts but also in the factual interpretation and succinct use in depicting a representation of that moment in time (see historical analysis in historian). 
Who better to report in this article than someone immersed in the corporate culture as this author is. Do you know that the cancer center forces something akin to "non-disclosure" agreement on its employees?
It is improbable that a scholarly correlation between two factors such as "ego and salary" can be established, but I CAN produce a reference to publicly available (individual and average) published salaries and then show known acknowledgements of ego.
Most of the facts can be established by independent reporting (say articles from the local paper), the freedom of information act  or even the annual reports by the center itself.  It is intersting to note that the annual report is the Conquest Magazine and the leaders really are savy enough to have choosen the title for its multiple meanings. Two of the cancer center's presidents have had very strong ties with George Bush and past, present and convicted Enron execs. (BTW, the Enron staff had those savy named "Death Star" energy price gouging stratigies, right?) 
Good or bad, the cancer center's culture and growth strategy lie in the facts as well as in the interpretation of the facts. Let M. D. Anderson defend itself. After all the center has an entire department of Scientific Publications  to make sure the influential message makes it out in the acceptable "Anderson way"!
So in the end I know what I am trying to get across is accurate and true, albeit unpolished. So bear with me while I try to get across my informed and experienced opinion. 
Finally in that vein: Is there a good template, say for MS Word, so I can create and review the formatting of the whole article at once? This way I do not have to review and recover what has been removed each time I try to improve the article.
MakingCancerProfitable 13:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: With sourcing, criticism is allowed. And so long as you keep Wikipedia's no original research and neutrality policies in mind, I see no reason against critical facts being brought into this article. jareha 21:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

text: With the impact of Wikipedia growing critical or controversial insertions will receive more than the usual scrutiny. This is an encyclopedia and we shall not be accepting slander, defamation, dirty laundry and what have you. On the whole, individuals expressing criticism (an angry website) but without a trend (e.g. numerous newspaper articles) is a poor reason for inserting criticism. JFW | T@lk 07:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The biased material will made more neutral and given a factual basis. 

message: M.D. Anderson is an accredited degree granting institution, unlike what was in the article. They do graduate a small class of undergraduates every year. (about 100 currently) as well as a majority of post-grad and post-doc work. - cohesion★talk 09:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facility name 

message: The history section is entirely unsourced.  This article therefore does not qualify for B-class status.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I reverted the addition of non-WP:RS blog sources being used as references for "controversy" regarding the status
of the center.  I'm not against the addition of notable controversy, just poorly sourced controversy. In addition, this
may warrant the addition of a controversy section if there is more than one item, otherwise it's best as a single
sentence with a WP:RS enclosed in  tags.  My opinion. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 14:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy

message: *I've protected the page from editing for a few days, hopefully a clear consensus can be found here in that time and the edit warring will stop. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: protected to prevent edit war on this subject

message: This http://www.mdanderson.org/education-and-research/departments-programs-and-labs/departments-and-divisions/cardiology/sentrin/sentrin-2010-map-hotel-cpb.pdf has a map of the center - it could be helpful in citing locations in places. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NOTADIRECTORY.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Also, where is the CP info on the map?— Dædαlus Contribs 21:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

text: This is somewhat mentioned in the current status section. Seems weird to me to be in history, but just my opinion, I'm not editing this to avoid WP:COI. - cohesion 16:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Several of the links referenced by "additional locations" list return a 404 error because of age. How is the best way to update these with the current page addresses? D'Nezzy Smith (talk) 21:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  404 errors on reference links 

message: Hi there,
I notice some of the location reference links return a 404 error because they have not been updated with changes on the site. What is the best way to correct this? Can I just replace the links or do I need to save the old ones?
Thanks,
D'Nezzy Smith (talk) 14:44, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken links in the references 

message: •	Information to be removed: It is affiliated with Baylor College of Medicine. 
•	Explanation of issue: Unlike The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, which MD Anderson Cancer Center partners in with its Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, MD Anderson is not affiliated with Baylor College of Medicine. I would propose removing the reference or providing a citation to support including the affiliation.  
•	References supporting change: https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/our-locations/md-anderson-cancer-network/network-members.html (linked page includes MD Anderson affiliates.)
•	Information to be updated: The cancer center provided care for more than 146,000 patients in Fiscal Year 2018 and employs more than 20,000 people.
•	Explanation of issue: The updated information reflects the most current information. 
•	References supporting change: https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/facts-history/institutional-profile.html
•	Information to be updated: In FY 2018, about 10,100 patients participated in therapeutic clinical research exploring novel treatments …
•	Explanation of issue: The updated information reflects the most current information. 
•	References supporting change: https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/facts-history/institutional-profile.html
•	Information to be updated: invested more than $862.8 million in research in FY 2018 …
•	Explanation of issue: The updated information reflects the most current information. 
•	References supporting change: https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/facts-history/institutional-profile.html
thank you
Andrew MDACC (talk) 23:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Some proposed changes

message: #  The affiliation with Baylor was omitted.
#  The figure on patients was not added, as this figure is not precise (in-patient vs out-patient, what "care" refers to in provided care.)
#  Investments in research were updated.
#  Patient participation in "novel treatments" was not added, as this information does not clarify what is meant by novel or what these treatments entailed.
* Text from the lead section and the section on International growth was found to be insufficiently paraphrased from the source material, and has been omitted per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE.
Regards,  Spintendo  00:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 11-FEB-2019

message: Thank you for your time and consideration regarding these proposed edits.
 
In section 2.2, can the reference to the The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center School of Health Professions be added back in after the reference to the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences? The School of Health Professions, which is separate from the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, offers bachelor's and graduate degrees in health sciences. Here's a link to The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center School of Health Professions. A suggestion for wording: The MD Anderson Cancer Center School of Health Professions offers bachelor's degrees in 10 allied health fields, including clinical laboratory science; cytogenetic technology; cytotechnology; diagnostic imaging; diagnostic medical sonography; health care disparities, diversity and advocacy; histotechnology; medical dosimetry; molecular genetic technology; and radiation therapy. The school also offers master of science degrees in diagnostic genetics and radiologic sciences.
Regarding number 2 above: The figure on patients was not added, as this figure is not precise (in-patient vs out-patient, what "care" refers to in provided care.) ... Perhaps "patients served" would be a better way to phrase would be: "The cancer center served more than 146,000 patients in Fiscal Year 2018. This includes those who were diagnosed with and/or received care during FY18 for a malignant neoplasm or a malignancy-related condition, benign neoplasm, and/or a non-neoplastic condition. MD Anderson employs more than 20,000 people. Citation link
Regarding number 4 above: "Patient participation in "novel treatments" was not added, as this information does not clarify what is meant by novel or what these treatments entailed." ... Would this phrasing be acceptable? In FY 2018, more than 10,100 patients were enrolled in over 1,250 interventional clinical trials at MD Anderson. 
Thank you for the consideration. Regards, Andrew MDACC (talk) 23:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 19-FEB-2019

message: Greetings and felicitations.  In the article's map. "Houston" is misspelled "Hjuston", and while I've created a login for OpenStreetMap, I still can't figure out how to fix this, including not being able to location the spelling there.  Anyone? —DocWatson42 (talk) 14:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misspelling in the map