Talk:New Jersey Devils

message: Would it be okay to add the record set back in 1988 by Patrik Sundstrom (while playing for the Devils) for the most points in a NHL playoff game? It still stands today, but it was tied a year later by Mario Lemieux, so no one has broken it as of yet. The information is listed on Sundstrom's own wiki page, so its not new information. DeadEndX (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating Devils Records

message: Would it be worth adding the overflow radio stations that carries Devils broadcasts?  Anyone know what the rules are for overflow games?  Since moving from WABC to WFAN, it's no longer as easy as going to Radio Disney (1560) to find the broadcast.  Sme3 (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. WFAN is the flagship and produces the broadcast even if it is on WBBR or WWJD. I see the additional stations as non-notable trivia. --Michael Greiner 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio Stations

message: There is a line in the first paragraph which reads: Under current general manager Lou Lamoriello, the Devils have made the playoffs in 18 out of the last 20 seasons, including each of the last 11.  At what point is it safe to include the 2008-09 season (which would increment all of these numbers by one)?  Ordinarily, we don't include the present year for statistics but there would be a notation to that effect.  Such a notation would seem out of place in the first paragraph. -sme3 (talk) 20:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating playoff-clinching seasons 

message: Why isn't the Devils Dancers mention in this article when they are part of the New Jersey Devils Culture and Entertainers between period.--Mr. Unknown (talk) 02:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably for the same reason nobody writes about the games teams run in intermissions to keep the fans entertained: it's not-notable, trivia and quite irrelevant to the team itself. Resolute 19:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devils Dancers 

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message: The last few seasons are starting to get bloated on this article and much of it could probably be cut out to the individual season articles. Anyone up for the challenge? -DJSasso (talk) 16:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's my thought that the History part should be split out as History of the New Jersey Devils.  With a little spit and polish, it could probably requalify for FA with little trouble.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism 

message: its a personal issue to us all  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcbain942 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but no.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such, attempts to represent history as it was.  We do not alter the record to suit the point of view of the fans. Resolute 18:46, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Zach Parise was scarcely the first free agent ever to leave a team, and certainly won't be the last.  (Come to that, I've noted that the Devils, themselves, sign other teams' UFAs.)   Ravenswing   03:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remove Zach Parise 

message: Jagr is currently wearing an A against the Rangers, and I remember him wearing one another time this year, but it appears he is not a regular appointee. With Salvador out last year and this, theyve had 3 As and now with Elias out, it looks like Jagr is taking the third A. I cant find any sources in a google search, but I can see it on screen. Should we update this or make some note of it?--Metallurgist (talk) 01:35, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, we often note only the permanent alternates (at locations such as List of current NHL captains and alternate captains or a team season article such as 2013–14 New Jersey Devils season).  It is quite frequent that a player will wear an A for a game or two due to injury of one of the three regular captains/alternates, so it can become confusing and messy to try and track these short term assignments.   Though, of course, if a source says that Jagr wears/wore an A for a reasonable length of time, it would make sense to add that note to his article.  Cheers! Resolute 15:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate captains 

message: This article currently has a variety of issues that make me concerned about its' status as a featured article. A lack of proper citations, some dead links, unreliable sources, and prose issues. Before a featured article review, the idea is a talk page discussion should take place, so that leaves me here. This article needs a lot of work to meet the current featured article standards. Is anyone willing to put in the work? Gloss 22:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Even as a Rangers fan, I'd be interested in working on the article in my spare time. I think that a lot of the problems could be solved by forking the current history content into a History of the New Jersey Devils article and cutting back on what's presented here. That would take care of the weight issues noted at the (delayed) FAR and make the article a bit easier to source. I'm going to be busy in real life for the next couple of weeks, so I wouldn't object if the FAR was resumed in a week or so, though I'll try to do what I can in the meantime. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know that the team has even been around long enough to need its own history page. Most of the bloat could probably be moved to season pages since that is what they are for and they are often neglected badly when it comes to adding prose. That being said, I wouldn't have a problem with a fork. -DJSasso (talk) 23:14, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: At 40 years, I think a fork is justifiable.  The article is nearing 100kb as it is, so a size-based split is also warranted.  Also, as I noted on the now paused FAR, I'd be willing to help with copyedits if someone's willing to do the work on the references and sourcing (and probably the recentism as well). Resolute 00:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to be bold and create a new article with the current history content (with properly attribution, of course). The first paragraph of the history section here has been redone, and if you like the work you can expect more of it in the days/weeks to come. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article issues 

message: This text was quite superior to what is there now; it was reverted with no discussion, although it had consensus at Wikipedia:Featured article review/New Jersey Devils/archive1.  I suggest restoring it.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I responded at the FAR, having not been proper pinged by it. I'll repeat what I said there, in brief. The prose version is a choppy wall of text that is too long to read comfortably and lacks cohesion and flow in the paragraph. It doesn't work as one big paragraph, and if it's going to be broken up because of that, it should just be a set of bullet points, because no matter how it's formatted it still reads like a list. oknazevad (talk) 02:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I see a problem turning it into prose, the Calgary Flames featured article does a good job of it for example. -DJSasso (talk) 12:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

text: Oknazevad, the FAR is linked at the top of this page.  For this article to pass FAR, it needs to be stable (see WP:WIAFA, 1e), so reverting against consensus can endanger its featured status.  Do you have the FAR watch listed?  DJsasso, you might want to look over the FAR as well ... it has been four months of work to get to this point!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

text: I couldn't find any sources to support that, and a number retirement for such a prominent player should have something out there that is sufficient for our purposes. The edit has been undone. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hall of Fame revert 

message: Hello, I am writing this message to ask other editors about a proposed edit change? I am requesting to change the wording in the lead paragraph of the New Jersey Devils article to this version. Specifically, the reason why I am proposing this edit change is because I feel like it reads better, and I also feel like an average reader of the New Jersey Devils article would maybe think it reads better too. I am writing this message in order to try to reach WP:CONSENSUS with other editors as to how the lead paragraph should be written. Please feel free to respond to this message. I'm not expecting to claim ownership; rather, I'm intending to start a dialogue and reach consensus as to how the lead paragraph should be written. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 07:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I find the current version reads better. However, if others prefer your proposed changes? then so be it. GoodDay (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think that the current version is perfectly fine. And as one user wrote Please do not remove this link; this article has been subject to featured article review within the past few months, and no FA article reviewer objected to this important definitional link. Therefore, I think no changes should be made. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that the changes worked their way back into the article. I don't have an issue with the first couple of adjustments, but there is a "Rockies. The Rockies..." as a result. I've never liked this type of structure, in which a word ends a sentence and appears at the start of another, and the regular FA reviewers don't care for it much either. I'll go ahead and make an edit to fix that, if it's okay. Also, I'm happy to see that the East Rutherford link was restored. At the FA level countries and big cities are often left unlinked, but I think a link is useful in this case. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording in the lead paragraph 

message: Just a notice, the Angels thing is a very elaborate April Fools Day prank, please do not change the article, because as far as I am aware the Devils are not actually becoming the Angels. 2601:18C:C100:7090:6C72:C9D4:E7DA:3AAA (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Angels" April Fools 2016 

message: Should the Radio and TV section be updated to include the One Jersey Network?   Fishnet37222 (talk) 19:23, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Jersey Network 

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