Talk:Duchies in Sweden

message: What about Princess Lilian, isn't she Duchess of Hallandia?
--Ruhrjung 11:56, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding a note about that.. -- Jao 12:24, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lilian 

message: The article needs a clean-up of Swenglish, fact corrections ("younger sons" is BS), expansion (more than half are missing) and a different attitude (including women, for example). I am beginning by moving it to Duchies in Sweden and will then try to make time to fix it up as fast as I can, step by step. SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been updated and its list has now been completed according to information given in bios on sv.WP and en:WP and now includes pre-1772 persons and all the women. I have shortened the listings to exclude superfluous/voluminous information readily available through linked names. Please help by looking for typos! SergeWoodzing (talk) 07:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article not very good 

message: The article of the province in question correctly gives an English exonym for its name as "Small lands". Here I added it as the Smallands to the province heading. I havve seen that name format several times in English literature, some of it older. This has now been removed with no reason given. I am reinserting it with the exact wording in the province article's lede and ask that this be discussed here before it is changed again. SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I had removed "also known as the Smallands" from a header because it is not really true. If the term can be found in older English literature, it is antiquated now, and not likely to be understood. Woodzing has added many other strange exonyms to this article, some ("Vermillandia") seem to be of his own invention. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  For some background on these personal accusations, see Kuiper's recent work here about what is or isn't Latin. Neutral editors: Since when do we censure what is "found in older English literature" as "antiquated now"? Unless we are acting on a personal  agenda that is not constructive? SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Small lands'' equals ''Smallands''? 

message: Only one Swedish nobleman was ever made duke, the rest were all royals. That one single duke does not warrant categorizing the article as Nobility of Sweden in my opinion. SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Nobility 

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This link goes to the right URL but not to the right corresponding place on that page. Don't know what the problem could be or where to report it. SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a browser fault since that page contains a collapsed content at the top. so you have to scroll up as much as content is collapsed. There is no backup solution except turning of JavaScript in your web browser to prevent content to get collapsed. mabdul 11:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  URL and link to not correspond 

message: I just added 2 more references to the disputed paragraph, showing that Birger Jarl is considered to have been elevated to his ducal postition largely because of his marriage to a Swedish princess. I'm sure I can find several more, since I have never seen the fact questioned anywhere else. SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added references 

message: Is there a reason why in the 'Today' section the duchy name for Victoria's and Daniel's title is given in English (West Gothland) while the duchy names for the titles of Estelle, Carl Philip, and Madeleine are given in Swedish? Given that I've never seen any of the titles presented in the English version in media reports etc., I'm going to switch it (back?) to the Swedish version for consistency. Metheglyn (talk) 23:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason is phonetic empathy i e readability but was not consistent with the others in this instance. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 07:49, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Gothland 

message: I'm curious. Why was my edit about spouses of dukes/duchess having to have / accept Swedish citizenship reverted? The news articles I've seen have all indicated that, at least for men marrying duchesses, this is the case, as Christopher O'Neill reportedly turned down a title because he did not want to become a Swedish citizen (and give up his business interests). This is supported by a press-release from the Swedish Royal Court, which I admittedly failed to reference in the edit. Metheglyn (talk) 23:18, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I explained it in the edit summary. There is no connecion whatsoever between the ducal title per se and citizenship. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:11, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

text: New sentence added now to clarify. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:17, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point, now I see the reason for the reversion. That's what I get for noticing the change had been reverted, but not actually reading at the edit summary. Good reminder for the future, especially since I try to be thorough in my edit summaries myself. Metheglyn (talk) 01:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Royal Citizenship

message: Can the lists of dukes be removed from the articles about the provinces? It makes no sense for Östergötland to have a section with a list of dukes and duchesses. --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 02:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: . --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:09, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of dukes be removed from the articles about the provinces 

message: I have never seen in it print, reliable or no, that these titles have been / are given "for life" in the 18th, 19th, 20th or 21st centuries, nor that they still are "associated" with the kings who never - ever - use them once they have become King. Source or rewording needed.  --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Titles "for life"

message: The article as presently written fails to mention or distinguish between dukedom (a rank or title) on the one hand and duchy (a territory) on the other. Furthermore, despite its current name, the page deals preponderantly with the first of those two terms (that is to say that it is basically about people who have borne the title of duke or duchess in Sweden). I think that as well needing editing to clarify the dukedom/duchy distinction, the page would therefore be much more appropriately entitled – in similar style to the corresponding article in the Swedish-language Wikipedia – Swedish dukes and duchesses. Comments? -- Picapica (talk) 10:17, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duchy / dukedom