Talk:Faggot (food)

message: Brain's faggots is not a distinct enough topic of its own to warrant a separate article. Recommend merge into this article. Also citation needed to indicate that Brain's is indeed the best known brand. Bwithh 19:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge recommendation

message: Added recipe for Dad's Faggots but unsure if it is traditional. Any ideas?
jptdrake 05:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "fennel seed, ricotta cheese, grated Romano cheese" er, nope. Not by a long chalk. It's even served in pastry.  - X201 11:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recipe 

message: The article seems to indicate that faggots are a popular dish in "the African-American Country", which perhaps unsurprisingly has no accompanying article. Presumeably this is a (whilst amusing, silly) reference to the 'Black Country', a region in England, but someone with more knowledge than I should probably change this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.12.227.28 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 4 April 2008
:Who knows, maybe it refers to Liberia 24.205.64.27 (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "African-American Country" 

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: What's this kel supposed to be?  Thanks, Maikel (talk) 13:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Kel = kell = caul = caul fat. Maikel (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Wrapped in kel"?

message: I have to challenge this article.
I admit that the smallest book in the world is probably the "Welsh Cook Book", but having said that, if it existed, faggots would be in it.  The Welsh name is 'ffagod'.  To leave references to Wales from this piece and then lock it is nothing short of racisim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob.williams (talk • contribs) 17:34, 26 January 2010
:Racisim?? Really??Flappychappy (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Challenge 

message: Are these meatballs ever served outside Britain? If so, are they referred to by different names (to avoid confusion with the antigay slur, which is the only common meaning of the term in, for example, the US)? Stonemason89 (talk) 22:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering that too, that photo looks amazing & I'd love to find that dish here in the US as well! Hanz ofbyotch (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outside Britain? 

message: This is a good example of the confusing langauge and lack of clarity which all too often inhabits Wikipedia.
"This is a common combination in the Black Country area of the West Midlands, especially so since the 18th century industrialisation onwards, but also for hundreds of years prior."
Somebody who is not a native English speaker will have trouble with this wordiness.
Was the faggot a "common combination" from "the 18th Century industrialisation onwards"?
Or was it "for hundreds of years prior"?
It could be both.  If so, say so.  Just give a date range.
Somebody who isn't a native english speaker should use the wiki of their native language if they get confused.  when writing for the english language wikipedia, non-english speakers or non native speakers are not a concern or priority.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.187.212.87 (talk) 20:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is a common combination in the Black Country area of the West Midlands, especially so since the 18th century industrialisation onwards, but also for hundreds of years prior. 

message: Shouldn't Mr Brains frozen faggots be mentioned in the article? as surely they must be the most commonly sold faggots being stocked in every supermarket? or are there rules against mentioning specific brands on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:DA42:200:71E4:C8EB:C640:6AEE (talk • contribs) 
:Personally I wouldn't do this, because although you're right that Mr Brain's are the best known brand in a British supermarket, it isn't encyclopedic to mention this and could be seen as advertising or unfair on the less well known brands. In this source in the article, a person is holding up a box of Mr Brain's faggots.--07:49, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr Brains 

message: Re this edit: It was the Somerfield advert, as reported here. Rodney Bewes also did a similar advert, shown here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't questioning the Somerfield-ad statement itself (which is why I didn't remove it) when I made that edit; I was just trying to flag the specific source as not having the relevant information, meaning that a better source was required. The BBC News article is definitely better, but sources with more details would be even better (I could do it when I find some time to research it properly). Regarding your comment on this edit, I'm confused: I looked again, and I don't see a "Harm and Offence" section. Are we talking about the same document/source? TastyChikan (talk) 15:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can see, it was the Somerfield advert in July 2004 that set off this complaint. There is another source in the Daily Telegraph here. There doesn't seem to be much confusion. The "Harm and Offence" complaint to Ofcom says "A commercial featured a husband challenging his wife’s repetitive routine of a set meal for each day of the week. While he wanted lasagne, he was told that, as it was Friday, he was to have faggots. He responded: “I’ve nothing against faggots, I just don’t fancy them.”"--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:23, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  : OK, my mistake; the problem must have been that the search function in the PDF document wasn't working properly in the browser, so I couldn't find the Somerfield section, but it is, indeed, there. This renders this whole thread pointless, so I suggest deleting/archiving it, unless you have any objections, since it's just cluttering and adding no real value to the Talk page. TastyChikan (talk) 18:16, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: What interested me here is that Rodney Bewes did a commercial with the same joke (see above) but it didn't lead to complaints. This commercial apparently dates from 1978, which is long before the era of political correctness. By 2004, it should have been spotted that an innuendo with the word "faggot" would lead to problems. Bewes wrote the commercial himself.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertisements 

message: A cafe in Newport, Wales was banned from advertising on Google, apparently because they used the word "faggot" as a culinary term. There is no direct confirmation of this, but it looks like another example of the Scunthorpe problem where a filter blocks all uses of the word. I've decided against adding this to the article because there are already clearer examples given.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:05, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  New advertising ban 

message: You say 20 but the article you cite states a dozen, which is 12. Ipaul83 (talk) 19:25, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number eaten by gluttonous man 

message: I think that in the "Double Meaning" section should be added the situation with King Crimson's 1974 song "The Great Deceiver".
The song opens with the line "Health food fa**ot with a bartered bride" which describes a meatball and not a person of a homosexual sexual orientation. 
The writers weren't aware of the connection though until the backlash and didn't even mean to say anything bad. (From an interview with the members) Brunoancic31 (talk) 11:46, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This needs reliable secondary sourcing to comply with WP:POPCULTURE. It doesn't seem to have picked up a lot of coverage. There are a several incidents above that I didn't add to the article, because they repeated the basic point, which is that the word can be misinterpreted. A British person usually knows that faggots can be food, but Americans (particularly those writing obscenity filters for the internet) don't. King Crimson are a British rock band, so they probably didn't realise that this problem can occur across the pond.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinterpretation in the song "The Great Deceiver" 

message: Why is there a redirect to the article for Bouquet garni? The article for that doesn't mention the word faggot anywhere so I fail to see the reason why it should be there. If no one is opposed I'll remove it. Ericfood (talk | contribs) 21:24, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any opposition so I removed the redirect. Ericfood (talk | contribs) 18:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

text: I believe it was because its similar in looks to the fasces, or sometimes referred to as the faggot. I agree it's unnecessary though. commemorative (talk) 14:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect to [[Bouquet garni]]