Talk:T and O map

message: at the time discussed, was the earth thought to be spherical, or just circular? i would wager that the author intended to write circular, but...  Fufthmin 22:58, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
Spherical. It is a myth that people didnt think the world was a globe. Common people did, but any learned person or sailor knew the world was round in the Middle Ages. The question was, how big, no one knew that (Columbus thought the world was much smaller or he would have never attempted his voyage to India, he never could have made it not knowing the Americas were in the way). Stbalbach 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  This was common in the *late* Middle Ages, not in early MA. FellGleaming (talk) 05:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [Spherical or circular earth]

message: I reduced the number of images to two because that's about all it can handle without being cluttered and moved the rest to a gallery. I reduced the image size to a standard size as they look different on different monitors and resolutions. To zoom in on a picture either click the image, or use the browsers built-in zoom feature ("CNTRL +" on Firefox). -- Stbalbach 14:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed your Template:cleanup-gallery tag before I realized there was a way to create galleries in Commons, but I think the distinction between a Gallery and a Category in Commons is miniscule, and does not warrant a tag that says to move the images to Commons when they have been there since before you created the gallery. See commons:Category:T and O map — Joe Kress (talk) 04:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Can I ask why this article even has Isidore's quote? This article is about T&O maps - not flat earths and Isidore's flat earth theory. It might make an ok section at the bottom of the article or something. Also, it remains unclear what, exactly, Isidore thought - the prevailing cosmological view at the time was that the earth was divided into 5 spheres and it certainly could be interpreted that Isidore was talking about ONE of those spheres as being flat like a wheel, but within the context of a round earth. -- Stbalbach 12:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: um, because the very concept of T&O maps is derived from that quote? Note that even that 15th c. illustration says "this is the Earth according to Isidore" (le monde selon ysidore). dab (ᛏ) 15:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isidore actually considered the Earth to be globular, it is well explained in the Flat Earth page. I changed the article according to the sourced information from there. As far as I know, the edits about Isidore in the Flat Earth article were made by the historian of science User:SteveMcCluskey, he may be a good source for further information about this. --201.9.60.131 17:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Isidore and flat earth

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message: The text says that East is at the top, yet the map (in the picture) is actually oriented with East on the right. See Hereford Mappa Mundi for a clearer view.
Thanks!
WesT (talk) 22:46, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which way is up? 

message: :"The four sacred rivers of the Holy Land were always present."
"Always" is clearly wrong, just look at the maps.
Does this refer to the biblical rivers of Paradise, of which 2 don't correspond to real ones? (Or rather: the identity of Pishon and Gihon has been long lost.)
A) Not on any of the reproduced maps, and
B) Pishon and Gihon would be of zero practical use.
And anyway, there's just one of the reproduced maps that has any real geographical detail, such as the Nile delta and its arms.
So what does this mean, i.e. which 4 rivers, and to what degree are "the" 4 rivers present on such maps?
If Paradise meant, not HL: change & add Wikilink to that article. Arminden (talk) 13:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: hi, you two have been quite active at creating this article. Maybe you wish to take a short look. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The 4 rivers of the Holy Land"