Talk:Mini

message: Sections 2 through to 7 don't seem to be in any sort of order, other than the "Marks" vaguely being in chronological order.
Should we have a paragraph or small section for each "variant" (e.g. Countryman, Van, Pick-up) in each "Mark" section that the variant was produced in? Should we keep them the way they are but move them to another part of the article to keep things in order? What are your opinions?--Pineapple Fez 07:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I also don't see why the variants section is between Mk 2 & 3, when most of the variants were created in the Mk1 era. and technically cooper and clubman are variants also. I'd also suggest a section for Aussie and Italian productions under variants.Yellowxander (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Under models, how would this look being in chronological order?;
*Mark I
*Long Chassis Mini's
**Mini Van
**Mini Estate
**Mini Pick-up
*Mini Elf & Hornet
*Mini Cooper
**Mini Cooper S
*Mini Moke
*Mark II
*Mini Clubman
*Mark III
*Mark IV - VII Limited Editions
*International Models
**Leykor - South Africa
**BMC/BLMC - Australia
**Innocenti - Italy
**Authi - Spain
**Cagiva - Portugal
**South America
I would think that 'Concepts & Prototypes' and "kits & Customs' would come under the model's umbrella too?.. Yellowxander (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Section organisation

message: I think that this is reliable and so I have changed the explanation in this article. This is my source: Model ADO codes. Eddaido (talk) 12:20, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ADO15 Amalgamated Drawing Office 

message: Today's page moves have been undone per WP:BRD. If the original contributor, or anyone else thinks that articles like this and Mini Hatch need to be renamed then the move needs to be properly discussed. --Biker Biker (talk) 22:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversial move needs to be discussed

message: In the info box, it is stated that the Mini Hatch is the successor to the Mini. While they share a name, surely the original Mini has no successor, and the new Mini is really a replacement for the Metro/Rover 100, given its size? <B>Warren</B> (talk) 15:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would disagree. indeed it is bigger, indeed it does not share any of it's parts, however it is called the mini. In the same way the original 3-series bmw and the current 3 series do not really share anything between them, The original 3 is more the size of the 1 series today. But it is called a 3 series, so it is on the same page as the original 3 series. Knowing this is a very sensitive topic for some reason I do not quite get, I ask myself the question why the current mini does not just reside under the 198?-2000 mini? It is in effect the successor to the MINI in much the same way that the mini cooper is the successor to the original mini.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Programmasters (talk • contribs) 23:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sucessor 

message: Both 'facts' are incorrect.
- the first cars ever with a flexible printed circuit board for the instruments were the 1939(!) Chrysler Corporation cars. Printed circuits for the instruments were a long established standard by 1969.
- the first car available with runflat tyres was the Rover P6.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.77.26 (talk) 20:59, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I trust that you have sources to back up these claims. The thing about Wikipedia is that verifiability trumps truth every day. Having said that, the claims in the article to be first are not substantiated so I have removed them. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Perhaps you could help out the project by finding other problems in car articles (complete with sources of course!) --Biker Biker (talk) 21:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dunlop Denovo wheel and tyre system was fitted to both the Rover 3500 and Mini 1275GT in 1973. According to Dunlop, the Mini was first. See original advert and Dunlop website but according to this press report in the Scottish Evening Times in 1973 it was the Rover that was first . <B>Warren</B> (talk) 23:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mini Clubman and 1275GT were responsible for two motoring "firsts": they were the first vehicles to use a flexi printed-circuit board behind the dash instruments...Secondly, the 1275GT was the first car available with runflat tyres 

message: I'm having a hard time with "This resulted in a dry weight of 638 kg (1,410 lb)/642.3 kg (1,416 lb) (rubber/hydrolastic suspension) for the Elf and 618 kg (1,360 lb)/636.4 kg (1,403 lb) for the Hornet respectively." For any given year, the only differences I'm aware of are the trim (negligible weight), the dashboard (a few pounds heavier on the Riley) and the grille (a pound or so heavier on the Hornet). Maybe a two pound difference overall. Where are the other 48 pounds coming from? Is this accidentally comparing a Mk I to a Mk II? Does anyone have the original reference?—Kww(talk) 23:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elf and Hornet weights 

message: A company offered a Mini that outwardly looked like a standard model but the inside had wood veneer panels/dashboard, super plush seats (with stitching/designs that obvious mimicked Rolls-Royce), lots of extra. Anyone remember what company created this cars? I couldn't find it in the article but I think it belongs in it. --98.246.156.76 (talk) 07:00, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that this article should extend to customized after-market models GTHO (talk) 07:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Sounds like Radford. Mr Larrington (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Possibly the Tickford Mini,a one off special. Mr.Painless (talk) 20:42, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Super luxurious customized Mini?

message: The June 2013 edition of the UK magazine "Mini Magazine" has an article discussing the production of Minis from CKD (completely knocked down) kits for the home and Belgium markets at Amersfoort. Would someone care to check this out and, if appropriate, add this to the article. I can scan and email the magazine article if you provide an email address.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.71.208 (talk) 17:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See VDL Nedcar, where BMW is subcontracting the assembly of some Mini models from the second half of 2014 (see BMW press release). As it's a year away, there is no rush to pop it in the article yet unless someone has a sudden urge. <B>Warren</B> (talk) 15:39, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mini production in The Netherlands 

message: The Mini Cooper is still being produced. Wikipedia seems unaware of this. http://www.miniusa.com/content/miniusa/en.html
I don't see this newer version in the disambiguation either.
If there is coverage somewhere on Wiki, perhaps a link would be appropriate for the challenged reader (like me).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.241.240 (talk) 02:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Try Mini Hatch#Model range! Cheers!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard  | —  10:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

text: ^ Or in other words ... that's a totally different car, a mere shadow of the original, legendary one. A shocking, knowingly deceptive nostalgic veneer over what is really just a BMW-produced copy of a Rover supermini (ie, a whole size class above the mini itself) prototype for which they retained the copyright when they pulled out of their ill-fated joint venture, leaving Rover itself to scratch around and come up with the awful, Tata-designed Cityrover. It's rather like VW's quite cynical New Beetle (which, being basically a Golf with a bodykit, is also far too large - the original Beetle being roughly pre-millennium Polo sized - has the engine and drivewheels in the wrong place, and is really just a way of separating impressionable hipsters from their parents' money), but not even produced by the same company. It warrants, here, maybe a brief text-only mention and link to its own separate wiki page ... nothing more. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 09:16, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the modern Mini Cooper? 

message: Hi,
In the beginning of the article I can see 2 extra words, which do not belong to the original text, I guess. 
Penis poopsock The Mini is a small economy car made by the British Motor Corporation (BMC) and its successors from 1959 until 2000.
Can anyone correct this?
regards
:It was just petty vandalism.  Cluebot reverted it automatically here.  You may be looking at a cached version of the page.  Thanks for pointing it out though.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:42, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Addendum:  Incidentally, you are correct in saying "Can anyone correct this?" - yes, anyone can.  This page is not protected (usually shown by a small padlock of varying colours in the top right corner of the page,) meaning that you can also edit the page.  Be bold, and edit away.  I've popped along to your talk page and added a welcome template for you, which although slightly impersonal sometimes, does include a few useful links to help on your path to editing.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:45, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra words in the beginning 

message: This article initially claimed, some time back, that it was emissions that stopped US sales in 1968.  I wondered about that at the time, and then it was corrected to state that it was safety requirements.  As the same A-series engines was used in the Austin America which only started production in 1968, and in the MG Midget well into the 1970s when it was replaced with a Triumph power plant, it is incomprehensible that the could not get the Mini through the emissions requirements, which were NOT all that strict in 1968 - just an EGR valve, and (the Mopar solution to pollution - dilution) an exhaust gas air pump.
It was the safety. Emissions might have done it eventually, but NOT in 1968.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.144.118.19 (talk) 13:19, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Emissions? 

message: I see no mention of the introduction of 12" wheels, or date thereof. Any ideas? I know that the Denovo run-flat tyre on 1275GT was 12", but had very low-profile tyres, presumably of same rolling radius as 80 profile 10" tyres. 
I gather that space was the limiting factor, mainly from subframe mounts, from memory. If so, what was changed to allow fitment of 12" on later models, or did they use suitably low-profile tyres?
Rob 78.32.118.192 (talk) 13:57, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  12" wheels 

message: I have made some changes so it is easier to go to the current model:
* The disambig blurb at the top now clarifies that BMW is currently making Mini Coopers, and points to the page that covers the entire mark instead of just one particular Mini Cooper.
* I have fixed the Mini Cooper page to be a disambig page instead of a redirect.  
Samboy (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making it easier to get to the current model 

message: The Mini is credited elsewhere with being the main influence on the Honda 600 and everything that followed.  Does it bear mentioning that the motor and drivetrain layout of the Mini was pioneered by the Saab 92 and that design of the Mini commenced following the importation of the 92 to Britain?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.20.66 (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The Mini was certainly influential on small car design, though the Italians might argue about the Fiat 500 for size, but you'd need some references to support the above claim.<B>Warren</B> (talk) 23:02, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design influence 

message: Cooper S redirects here. Any reason why Cooper-S isn't at Cooper-S (album)? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: (album)

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message: The Motorsport section is getting quite large, and yet is far from complete. Suggest splitting some of it off into a new page similar to Toyota Supra in motorsport.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.88.232 (talk) 10:05, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Audi Sport WRC results, etc  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.226.49.236 (talk) 07:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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message: See Talk:Mini (BMW)#Name of this article: Mini instead of Mini (BMW)--Tim Stamper (talk) 02:50, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a rather drastic move - I am aware of WP:BRD, but something like that might be worth discussing with the countless people who are involved with these pages.  Mr.choppers | ✎  05:53, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. These unilateral moves must be reverted. Dr. K. 05:55, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been discussed (see above on this page). I tried to revert but can't do it.  Mr.choppers | ✎  06:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I also tried to revert it. Article names: Mini for the old models. and Mini (BMW) for the new models. I learnt that I have to discuss something like that. My mistake. Have a nice day!--Tim Stamper (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that was swift. I was expecting a lot more rigmarole... Best regards,  Mr.choppers | ✎  06:33, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of this article: Mini (1959–2000) instead of Mini 

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message: The fully independent suspension the rubber cones provided was almost unheard of in low-cost cars of the time. 
Removed since it is not cited and makes no sense at all. Independent suspension is dictated by the style of control arms or axles used, not the type of springs used. Whether the car uses solid axles or double wishbones or DeDions, each wheel must be provided with a spring. It can be a leaf spring, a coil spring, or even a rubber cone, but the type of spring has zero impact on whether it is independent or not. A double wishbone is fully independent, yet can use coils or leafs or even cones. A solid axle can be fitted with rubber cones or coils or a leaf spring. The only type of spring that influences whether a suspension is fully independent or not is the rare traverse leaf spring, as seen on the Model T and Corvette, and even that style is used on solid axles (Model T) and control arms (Corvette) with equal facility. If a Mini had fully independent suspension (I was under the impression it used a solid rear axle at least) the rubber cones had nothing to do with it.
70.20.41.199 (talk) 01:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Mini used a trailing arm rear suspension mounted to a beam subframe. This is what made it independent, not the type of springs. 70.20.41.199 (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spring style has nothing to do with independent suspension 

message: The Suez Crisis did not take place in 1977. 49.199.245.167 (talk) 23:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: random edit. (CC) Tbhotch™ 02:06, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suez Crisis 

message: There was no year 0.
First century started year 1 and ended year 100 on the evening of 31 December.
20th ended 31 December 2000. Nmajoros (talk) 13:47, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2000 is NOT 21st century 

message: I uploaded an image this afternoon that I took of the Mini in August 2021, some idiot thinks the current image on the article is better than mine I strongly disagree with this idiots decision I would like my image put back on the article and I want it to remain there. Hlliwmai (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: First, watch your language or you will most certainly be blocked. Second, the previous picture is much better - much less distortion from the wide angle lens, for instance.  Mr.choppers | ✎  01:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I have a right to be pissed off I don’t like somebody interfering I put that picture on in good faith then some knob buts in and reverts my edit I’m NOT impressed at all! Hlliwmai (talk) 09:37, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What about other editors? Should they be pissed off when you "butt in and revert their edits"? Do unto others, my friend.  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:25, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahh yes but that is different especially if it’s these idiot’s that just choose to vandalise, I wasn’t vandalising I was merely trying to do something in good faith but clearly everyone on here are bitchy and they want things the way THEY want them not anyone else. Hlliwmai (talk) 16:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That had better be an attempt at sarcasm or I will lose yet another dram of my faith in humanity.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No that wasn’t sarcasm trust me Hlliwmai (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image  

message: I think this article lacks a popular culture section. For example, one of the things many people immediately think about when they see a mini is Mr. Bean; which can be stated in the section. Aminabzz (talk) 16:34, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture

message: "The front-wheel-drive, transverse-engine layout were used in many other "supermini" style car designs such as Honda N360 (1967), Nissan Cherry (1970), and Fiat 127 (1971). The layout was also adapted for larger subcompact designs."
The front wheel transverse layout became essentially the industry standard way of making passenger cars, not just subcompact cars. Anything that wasn't RWD or AWD was transverse front engine, front wheel drive by the late 80s. I feel like this statement kind of understates the huge shift the Mini created in the automobile industry. It makes it sound as if it just started a new trend among very small cars. 
Idumea47b (talk) 01:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transverse engine