Talk:Laki

message: * can someone confirm or deny that "volcanic hairs" as written in the quote are the same as "Pele's hair" (see entry in wiki') and link if necessary?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.43.133 (talk) 15:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Volcanic hairs

message: Was the eruption's devastating effect on Europe a contributing factor to British surrender?
Sean7phil (talk) 02:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the treaty had been signed well before the volcano erupted.David Trochos (talk) 05:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: American Revolution Ended On the Same Year (1783)

message: Well, although the fissures are only recorded to erupt once, I belive they may once more erupt, or the lava may even find its way to the mountian itself....The Laki Fissure Erutions of 1783-1784 are very interesting. The effects on weather went as far as freezing over the Missisippi River at New Orleans, and allowing ice skating at the Charleston Harbor.if the Laki fissures erupt agian, the effects on the entire world will be extravigant.
Benjamin Franklin is quoted "... that other volcano which arose out of the sea near that island..." Was this part of Vestmannaeryjar and the dozen or so lumps stretching to the mainland and Surtsey ?  I can't find any detail on Google.
:It was called Nyey or Nyoe, and it was on the direct line of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, to the south-west of Reykjanes. David Trochos (talk) 05:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: 25%–33% seems to give a very precise range for what I suspect is an approximation for the fraction of the population killed in the 1780s eruption. Perhaps a quarter to a third might be better wording. Bazza 13:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "In all the population of Iceland decreased by just over 10,500 from the end of 1783 to the end of 1786 - from 49,753 to 39,190, to be precise." - Gunnar Karlsson (2000). Iceland's 1100 Years, p. 181. Limited preview available at Google Books. Haukur 13:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In which case the range should be replaced with a single value and referenced with the text you have kindly provided, which I have done. Bazza 12:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Percentages 

message: :"a surplus harvest in 1785 that caused poverty for rural workers"
Is this right? I can't see the causation between a surplus harvest and poverty.--Malcohol 14:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Thanks.--Malcohol 13:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused 

message: This article needs a disambiguation page. 'Laki' is also my nickname :O) Lakinekaki 04:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguation page 

message: I went through and changed the references of fluorine to either hydrogen fluoride or hydrofluoric acid.  HF is the compound mentioned in the citations, not F2. Delmlsfan (talk) 03:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fluorine vs fluoride 

message: "Laki is part of a volcanic system, centering on the Grímsvötn volcano and including the Eldgjá canyon, Thórdarhyrna and Katla volcanos." This statement was here unreferenced and unchallenged before my wikipedia time. User Brigt (talk • contribs) challenged it, as IP address and as his first contribution. Without references to support it, at first. 
GVP states the Laki fissure belongs to the central volcano Grímsvötn and that the Eldgjá canyon belongs to the Katla volcano. Strangely, Laki is southernly as Eldgjá. The image draws these two systems separated, citing pages 12-13 of Surtsey Nomination Report 2007. Actually T. Thordarson and G. Larsen (2007) has a similar picture. User Brigt claims  is a tourist information page and it is citing wikipedia. 
This citation () claims that Vonarskarð-Hágöngur, Bárðarbunga-Veiðivötn, Grímsvötn-Laki, and to a lesser extent Kverkfjöll are distinct features and "the central volcanoes of Vonarskarð and Hágöngur belong to the same volcanic system; this also applies to Bárðarbunga and Hamarinn, and Grímsvötn and Þórðarhyrna." 
This citation () classifies Iceland's volcanism as follow: "Reykjanes, West and North Volcanic Zones (RVZ, WVZ, NVZ) and the East Volcanic Zone (EVZ). These zones are connected across central Iceland by the Mid-Iceland Belt (MIB). Other volcanically active areas are the two intraplate belts of Öræfajökull (ÖVB) and Snæfellsnes (SVB)." And it states: "About 80% of the verified eruptions took place on the EVZ where the four most active volcanic systems (Grímsvötn, Bárdarbunga–Veidivötn, Hekla and Katla) are located."
Locations: 
* Grímsvötn
* Laki fissure 
* Eldgjá canyon 
* Katla    --Chris.urs-o (talk) 07:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   Laki system, Grímsvötnand and Thórdarhyrna volcanos  

message: Someone corrected the footnote on http://acatte.perso.neuf.fr/Iceland_Laki_in_english.htm . Thanks.
I was attempting to verify whether people generally measured temperature reliably over an area as large as New England when the fisure occured. The reference says (and is quoted here) that this was the longest period of sub-zero weather (Fahrenheit assumption?) in that area. Is this a reliable statement? Couldn't find anything to support it in my favorite reference work, Wikipedia!  :)  Partially the fault of our fellow-editors who are more interested in individuals than in general use history. Student7 (talk) 12:08, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And, having said that, the possibly glib statement (with great pictures) might pertain to some of the other statements as well? Student7 (talk) 12:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Not necessarily. Keeping thermometers, barometers and other instruments was something of a fashion among the educated gentry by the 18th century. Certainly, in England there are recordings from multiple stations of daily temperatures in degrees Fahrenehit (some of which are included in the famous Central England Temperature dataset, which goes right back to the mid-17th century). David Trochos (talk) 06:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible question on reference

message: Is there another reference for the claims of numbers of persons killed due to the eruption? I have seen these numbers propagated on lists of deadly natural disasters referencing this article, and to find these eye catching numbers are linked to a History Channel citation is a bit, well, unscholarly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.198.85 (talk) 13:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Channel Reference? 

message: There appears to be a couple of the external links dead. I didn't want to just delete them in case an interested party might want to check further.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.245.174 (talk) 04:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links 

message: 120,000,000 long tons is 121,925,629.056 tonnes, so it ought to be rounded to 122,000,000 tonnes; I was going to fix that because it looks stupid as it is, but I see that the conversion is automated. Not sure what's going wrong. 64.71.2.189 (talk) 19:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's just a matter of how many significant digits are shown.  de Bivort 21:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bizarre math error 

message: *Oppose. The Móðuharðindin article describes a huge natural disaster which killed tens of thousands of people around Europe. It must be notable and merits its own article. However, I am uneasy about the name Móðuharðindin, which really cannot be the best name for the event from English-language reliable sources. Moonraker (talk) 01:15, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason I proposed the merger was that most of the Laki article seems to be about the 1783 eruption and its effects.  So isn't there a lot of overlap and duplication?  Might my merger suggestion be the wrong way around?  Might it be better to prune this Laki article of the eruption event? Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there's a fair bit of research on Laki that does not focus on 1783. This could form the basis of an expansion of this article, but I don't have the expertise to put it together.  de Bivort 05:59, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger of [[Móðuharðindin]] into [[Laki]]

message: Hmmm. Looking at the graph in  Medieval_Warm_Period, around about 1783 there was a significant RISE in global temperatures. What's the story here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.81.234 (talk) 09:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The drop in global temperatures would have been only during the years of the eruption, and maybe the year after. It appears difficult to pinpoint just a couple years climate change on the graph linked above, in which I can only gather climate trends on the order of more like decades at best. In other words, the eruption may have caused one of those little downward spikes during late 18th century where the otherwise general trend was a rising of global temperatures. Or...the eruption's effect may not be visible at all at this graph's scale. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me  10:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "... The Laki eruption and its aftermath caused a drop in global temperatures." 

message: I watched a documentary on WNED Buffalo tonight (10:00 PM June 12, 2013) entitled "Nature's Power Revealed: Power of Fire". It stated that two million people died worldwide as a result of the effects of the eruption.  Of course, I have no idea of their source . . . the video was produced by  Reader's Digest (sic).Mathyeti (talk) 03:15, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  global fatalities from Laki eruption 

message: *See Laki#Consequences in North America :: did this winter inspire the severe winter near the end of The Song of Hiawatha? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  USA & Canada 1784 winter 

message: If, as the article states, "Lakagígar is the correct name", then why is that not the title of the article? 109.152.148.31 (talk) 02:03, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: For whatever reason, "the Laki eruption" seems to be the most usual way to refer to the 1783 event (probably the most common reason that readers seek out this article) in the English-speaking world . This article isn't only about the eruption, however, so the renaming would be fine as long as we do a good job referencing that name. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: How has the name still not been corrected? Let us look at the first two sentences of the article: "Laki or Lakagígar (Craters of Laki) is a volcanic fissure in the south of Iceland." and "Lakagígar is the correct name, as Laki mountain itself did not erupt." The first sentence equates the two, which is ridiculous, one is a mountain and the other a system of craters. It would be acceptable if the article was clearly about both, but it is all about eruptions from the craters. If "the Laki eruption" is the most usual way to refer to the 1783 event in English, it is about time to correct that mistake, not perpetuate it just because there is some precedence. 153.92.130.81 (talk) 01:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

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message: The section “1783 eruption” first states that the eruption rated at 4, but in the next paragraph states that it was rated at 6.
The Global Volcanism Program says it was a VEI 4 on their page, under Grímsvötn eruption history.
ZFT (talk) 21:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction: VEI 4 or 6? 

message: Should the 1783 eruption be given its own article? This one seems like a no brainer, it's a significant historical eruption and the section on this eruption is very long. Mrmp2402 (talk) 07:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Until August 2014 there was an eruption article at Móðuharðindin.  But at that time it was quite small (check its history) so it seems to have been merged into Laki, which was also small.  A case may be made for its becoming renewing that separation.  But that would leave this Laki article very small.  I would suggest either leaving things as they are or building up the non-eruption part of this Laki article so that it can survive on its own. Feline Hymnic (talk) 08:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested article for 1783 eruption