Template talk:Reflist/Archive 1

message: I see that the multiple-column code only works for Mozilla-based browsers. Can we see some adjustment for other browsers? The big three that I see needing support are Safari, Opera and (if we have to), MSIE. Thanks. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 19:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A workaround?  It might be possible to do a javascript workaround, if it's really important.  Though since it's part of the CSS3 working draft, Safari and Opera will probably support it sooner or later.  --Interiot 19:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Template:Navigation with columns for the ugly work-around and its development/talk history. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Mozilla browsers and multiple columns 

message: Dear administrator, please add the following interwiki:
 ia:Patrono:Reflist
Thank you in advance, Julian 22:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Please note that this template uses an unprotected documentation sub-page (see the explanation and link on the template page) so that all users can add interwikis and make other documentation updates. --CBD 00:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki for Interlingua 

message: I have posted this proposition on this talk page and put it into use with no disagreement so I am hereby adding it to the reflist/doc. Please discuss here if you disagree. --Anthony5429 07:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three options for usage 

message: The merge proposal for  and  never completed, I think because there was never a merge template on  and the discussion ended up on multiple talk pages. I have corrected this so now we can have a coherent discussion on this.
Myself, I prefer to use  much of the time because it saves me from having to type the header. You won't, however, find it transcluded onto any pages because it really does have to be substituted for text because the header includes an edit link that leads users to the (currently unprotected) template's edit page. For an example of this see User:Elipongo/My Sandbox. My understanding of the discussion above this is that the reason  is preferred is so that it can be transcluded and make the Wiki markup easier to read. That does make sense, however it would be nice to save myself the trouble of typing the header too. I don't know if there's a way, but can  be made to include a transcluded  when it's substituted for text? —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 16:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm changing my standing to merge via redirect. I keep a copy of the suggested layout from  in my "Frequent edits" text file that I keep open in a window. I no longer use  and now I think it should simply be redirected to here- especially in the light of recent erroneous edits to the template by users who didn't know better. —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 18:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

text: This template  also includes the heading references - so I find it much more useful - ref-list while having more options does not provide the same functionality as this template which has a simple name and a simple function. --Trödel 14:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  merge/redirect One problem that the English Wikipedia has is that there are too many editors duplicating other's efforts. We must curb this. One example that shows this is Template:Navigational templates. Now we already have , , which people already use all over the place. I believe we should be in a transitional phase where we convert all of those into using , and one template only. Having a duplicate only complicates the matter. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging Ref-list into here 

message: Dividing the references up 3 or more problems creates columns which are too small at 1024x768. There are even still some people using 800x600 or have their browser configured to use a larger font size which results in unacceptable results. This template should be changed to only allow 1 or 2 columns (in particular by using the references-small and references-2columns which I've added to common.css, this allows anyone using a resolution lower or higher than 1280x1024 to specify the number of columns they prefer.) —Ruud 01:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd rather not forcibly prevent , though I certainly agree that it shouldn't be used unless the columns are extremely narrow.  But yeah, references-2columns sounds great whenever two columns are requested at least (I take it that users are encouraged to modify .references-2columns in their monospace.css if they usually use a large font with a low resolution?). It might be reasonable to prevent maybe 4 or 5 columns...  any chance we could get a .references-3columns, so we don't needlessly restrict editors? --Interiot 02:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen a 3-column used where each is a very short thing. I don't remember where. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lists such as Films considered the worst ever that have a correspondingly huge list of links that nobody cares to convert. –Pomte 15:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  accessibilty problems 

message: If you're watching this template, then you might be interested in this. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 11:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  font size 

message: Column division doesn't seem to work. I see only one on every ref section.--Emperor Walter Humala  · ( talk? · help! ) 18:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't work in IE. It works in Firefox. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: Is there any way to make the reflist "collapsable" or "hidable"?
I ask in relation to biographical list-type articles, where every entry has a reference, with the result of several hundred references. Being able to hide these references would be very useful.
Cheers! Lauren♫/∆ 03:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's be great. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a template called  that you can try using, although I have no idea why you'd want to.  Tuxide 04:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Using , the reflist would be hidden by default if there are several other NavFrames on the page. Also, clicking on a citation link such as this will not open the hidden reflist or direct to it. Is this really desirable? –Pomte 04:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't have a link handy, but check out the debate leading up to the deletion of Template:Scrollref.  Should be in the deletion log.  Similar issues would affect a collapsible reflist - How would it be printed? Would it work well with a screenreader?  Political issues around the default status of such a reflist would also be contentious.  Apparently there's a lot of people that think a references section, regardless of size, should almost never be obscured. MrZaiustalk 16:27, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion: Collapsable reflist 

message: I read the template usage directions and it mentions that we can use  or , however, nowhere in the page does it say what these do. What do the multiple columns do? What is the advantage of using one of these templates instead of the plain  template? Could someone answer please, thank you.--Leon Sword 02:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand, it looks like it says so right on Template:Reflist#Multiple columns.  Sometimes people use multiple columns to save whitespace when many footnotes don't span the entire page.  Tuxide 02:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do the multiple columns do?