Talk:Main Southern railway line, New South Wales

message: The use of a template to include the image, dates, gauge, etc is incorrect. An Infobox in the main article is the correct method and included additional information. The template should only be used for the route diagram, per others in Category:Templates for railway lines of Australia. Dbromage [Talk] 06:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: and no doubt you made those changes to all those without any discussion. Bidgee (talk) 14:40, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wikipedia community encourages users to be bold when updating the encyclopedia. If you think these changes are incorrect or controversial, please state why. The edits are entirely within Wikipedia policies. Dbromage [Talk] 03:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You should know by now that when something is disputed that you need a consensus for such a bold change. Bidgee (talk) 05:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia encourages bold updating. You are the only one disputing the changes but you have not said what it is you are actually disputing. So tell us, which part of the additional referenced material in the article and template do you claim to be incorrect (and thus why the referenced third party sources are incorrect), why it is controversial to add additional referenced material and why it is inappropriate to use the correct Infobox for this article? You have not assumed good faith and you have now removed material referenced by reliable sources. Dbromage [Talk] 06:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sigh! You've failed to follow WP:BOLD and WP:AGF yourself. You're doing huge changes without any discussion with anyone. Bidgee (talk) 06:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are the only one disputing the changes but you have not said what it is you are actually disputing. I will ask you again. Which part of the additional material referenced by reliable sources in the article and template do you claim to be incorrect, why it is controversial to add additional referenced material and why it is inappropriate to use the correct Infobox for this article? Dbromage [Talk] 07:08, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

text: *I am uninvolved in this so I hope I can provide an objective view. The changes seem to be very informative, accurate, well sourced, add missing information, correct errors and put a badly formatted template into the correct format. I cannot see why this would be disputed. Bidgee has, despite numerous requests, failed to state exactly what content is in dispute and what the objection is beyond "it wasn't discussed". ShipFan (Talk) 11:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox structure 

message: Due to one person claiming a content dispute for uncontroversial content referenced by reliable sources, but not actually saying what was in dispute and continually reverting, I will delay correction of errors and omissions from this article until a third party reviews the proposed changes. The proposed changes are in User:Dbromage/sandbox/Main Southern railway line, New South Wales and User:Dbromage/sandbox/Template Main Southern railway line, New South Wales
Article:
* Adds . Current usage of  to convey this information is incorrect.
* Adds information to  which is not in the currently template.
* Adds information about the original John Whitton alignment and references information about duplication and deviations.
* There are other factual errors in the text I have not got around to correcting yet, e.g. claims the Bombala line did not have major freight traffic (it was one of the busiest lines in the state during the Snowy Mountains Scheme).
Template:
* Adopts correct use of rail icons per Wikipedia:Route diagram template and shows the route diagram only
* Header in green to match the CityRail/Countrylink route, per other NSW railway line templates
* Adds the missing John Whitton alignments and shows deviations, including a new deviation (Redbank Tunnel) completed in 2012
* Adds several missing stations
* Adds several missing features, including two major rivers
* Corrects some incorrectly named features
* Adds distances taken from the Australian Rail Track Corporation curve and gradient book
* Adds official names of junctions taken from the Australian Rail Track Corporation curve and gradient book
* Adds missing branch lines and connecting tramways referenced in other articles
* Adds accessibility information taken from Countrylink
Note that both must be changed as the template is referenced inline in the article. Changing one and not the other will either break or duplicate information.
I welcome third party comments on the proposed changes. Dbromage [Talk] 07:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed changes 

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