Talk:Spoiler (car)

message: "A spoiler['s] intended design function [...] leads to increased drag."
"[...]As such, rather than decreasing drag, automotive wings actually increase drag."
This explains nothing, and only confuses me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.239.191.4 (talk) 09:20, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Unhelpful distinction between wings

message: There's two F1 pictures now and all three picrures show rear spoilers. Would there be lid/lip, roof or front spoilers? Ferrari F40 pictures show something but the nice front of Ferrari F50 or Ferrari Enzo Ferrari isn't shown very well in the article photos. Formula cars might have most clear front spoilers, though, despite being somewhat different than those on more normal cars.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.216.199.14 (talk) 15:31, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of variety in photos

message: What are the published mileage effects
are their any slipstream modifiers that generate lift to give higher mileage while a vehicles computer reduces the risk of a tippier vehicle  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.138.126 (talk) 03:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mileage effects 

message: This article has picked up a lot of misinformation due to confusion between spoilers and wings as discussed above. I've decided to be bold and tear it all out. I also think the article could benefit from the help of an expert in industry or physics. — NRen2k5(TALK), 21:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Massive deletion 

message: Given that the application of spoilers to road cars is a German invention (unless anyone can go even earlier), there's an important note missing on the granddaddy of them all, the Kamm tail. 
Another few minor, but significant, examples would be the early '70s Renault 17 and Avenger Tiger, both of which were very early examples of the mass-market bootlid spoiler. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing section on [[Kamm tail]] 

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message: there is no proper "history" section, detailing the development of the device?  (the brief history of its use "on porsches" is not sufficient; in that it only deals with porsches ...:P
Lx 121 (talk) 15:30, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as wings for racing and similar go, there were the stubby little ones mounted either side of the cockpit of one of the Opel RAK rocket cars of the 1920s (though whether they were effective is another question entirely) and round about the same time a letter was published in a British motorsport magazine suggesting the use of inverted wings to create downforce, which I may have read in Alan Henry's history of the British GP or the first volume of William Court's “Power And Glory”.  Or somewhere else entirely.  The first proper attempt of which I'm aware was by Swiss brothers Pierre and Michael May who mounted a large wing on struts above the cockpit of their Porsche Spyder circa 1955, but the scrutineers of the event in which they were hoping to compete – IIRC it was a hillclimb – made them remove it and the idea wasn’t followed up.  The Michael May in question was the same bloke who subsequently designed the “Fireball” cylinder heads for the Jaguar V12 engine. Mr Larrington (talk) 02:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  history? 

message: .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.4.109.15 (talk) 23:30, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would someone add photos of actual spoilers? All photos show spoiler mounted on cars. 

message: What immediately comes to mind are Corvettes, Firebirds and Camaros. The air dam at the front is at the same plane as the cooler an directs additional air to it. At least that's what I've heard and makes sense to me.--Tobias ToMar Maier (talk) 19:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air dams as method of increased cooling is missing.