Talk:Thai numerals

message: This is not correct (or maybe not just enough detailled). Take a look at the Thaï or French versions. 
*๑ (neung) is "1" 
*หนึ่ง (neung) is "one" (written)
And both are pronounced "neung".
Another example with eleven :
* ๑๑ (sip et) is "11"
* สิบเอ็ด (sip et) is "eleven"
And both are pronounced "sip et".
Vberger 13:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Gentlemen,  appear to be 99% related to Chinese numerals. Therefore it is just plain not fair not discussing their origin.
Jidanni 02:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they aren't from modern Chinese but you'll have to respect that the Thais did come from China.  Archaic loan into their languages may have persisted and even naturalized as native numbers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.239.33.20 (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not clearly evidenced that Thai took numeral counting from Chinese. Although the relationship between Chinese and Thai exists, it cannot say if the Thai borrowed the Chinese. It can be the other way round as well. There are also enormouse evidence that Tai language (as a part of Bai Yue cultures) also influences Chinese language esp. in its Southern Dialect such as Cantonese. I don't recall it in detail but can give one example that I rememeber. It is widely accepted that the word "Kam" (gold) in Cantonese is taken from an archaic Tai language (คำ), such as in ทองคำ (gold), หอคำ (golden pavillion) or in other archaic names of various places and things. Therefore, as long as there's no enough evidence to support the claim about one-way direction of Chinese influence in Thai numerical counting, I don't think it's appropriate to put this information in Wikipedia. It's academically dangerous. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by U4268722 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree, and will make this change tomorrow if no one objects. Pawyilee (talk) 10:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Hey Pawyilee, I'm ready to help, thanks for inviting me, just tell me what you think needs to be done. Don't forget all the numbers from 10 up have been stolen from Khmer language (I just HAD to say that!). Cheers, Paxse (talk) 17:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Jpatokal‎ "stole" Khmer 0-9 and put them on the table while we weren't looking.  Pawyilee (talk) 14:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearly Chinese 

message: The Thai name for  zero, which also means center, depending on context, is clearly from Sanskrit śūnya, as are context-driven names for Alternate numbers 2 to 4, given below; but not  one or its alternatives. Thai names for regular digits  two through  nine resemble those in Cantonese as spoken in Southern China, putative homeland of the Tai. Shown below, without implying who borrowed from whom, is a comparison between the two languages using Cantonese characters and pronunciations.  The Thai transliteration uses the Royal Thai General System of Transcription (RTGS).
Nobody objected, so I posted it to the main article. Pawyilee (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey Pawyilee, I'm ready to help, thanks for inviting me, just tell me what you think needs to be done. Don't forget all the numbers from 10 up have been stolen from Khmer language (I just HAD to say that!). Cheers, Paxse (talk) 17:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Jpatokal‎ "stole" Khmer 0-9 and put them on the table while we weren't looking.  Pawyilee (talk) 14:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Zero to nine

message: I think it'll be noteworthy to add something referencing them.  Its clearly nearly, if not exactly identical.  Thai http://www2.hawaii.edu/~hlibcat/images/14.gif Khmer http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/images/khmernum.jpg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.239.87.131 (talk) 20:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can compare them in the chart at Hindu-Arabic numeral system#List of symbols in contemporary use.  You need appropriate fonts to see it. - TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Thai Numerals are identical to Khmer

message: In a somewhat belated response to the plea, above, I've changed the lede to add 
I also added external links giving 11 and 38 entries by way of example. The trouble is, each such classifier is also a noun in its own right. Thai Wiktionary has ลักษณนาม defined in Thai, and English Wiktionary includes it as a red link under both classifier and measure word, but neither Thai nor English Wikipedia have articles on the subject. To expand Wiktionary category Thai classifiers, a List of Thai numerative nouns is needed, with an explanation in the lede as to how these function as classifiers or measure words, with a table giving the stem noun and the nouns each is used to count. Such a list will show some counted nouns under more than classifier, and should resemble the list of Units of Issue (UI) used in Electronic Data Interchange, the US DLA and 
GSA, though these are far more rational than the Thai list would ever be. Nor will it ever be complete, as new nouns entering the language garner classifications intuitive to the Thai. It should also noted that other Southeast and East Asian languages use similar schemes. Useful search terms are "Numerative Noun" and "Numerative Classifier". --Pawyilee (talk) 17:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Numerative noun is not the best term, since these words not only used for counting, but also for determination (pointing)  (like for "this" or "that"). I think it's better to stick to classifier as descriptive term. −Woodstone (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Used with a demonstrative for determination, specifically instead of pointing? The distinction could be important: . List of gestures currently says, Although some gestures, such as the ubiquitous act of pointing, differ little from one place to another, finger pointing in just about any Southeast Asian context is rude, and that may extend to East Asian settings as well. In any case, use of Thai classifiers with Thai demonstratives could be important, but hard to reference. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numerative noun/classifier (Thai: ลักษณนาม) 

message: I added a 'citation needed' to the statement that Thai numbers 'are even closer to Minnan (Teochew/Hokkien), may be because most Thai Chinese are Teochew.' To me, this seems to imply that numeracy for the Thais was something that came with the ancestors of the Thai-Chinese, i.e. that the Thais did not have any independent number system prior to contact with the Chinese. I imagine a just as logical reason for the similarity could be that these languages are related, and therefore have similar names for their numbers. V85 (talk) 23:01, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teochow 

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