Talk:2006 North American heat wave

message: Should there be another article about the European heat wave of July 2006, as average maximum temperatures for this month are most likely to break some all-time records. No single day has been colder than 25°C in north-eastern Belgium for instance and on wednesday july 19th 2006, the predicted maximum temperature for the Belgian province of Limbourg will be 37°C (all time record : 37.8°C)
Perhaps someone should look into it. The Belgian national heat wave alert has been re-engaged for the second time this season (not once in 2005) and for the third time in the north eastern province of Limbourg.
Also France is experiencing 30°C+ virtually continiously throughout July. ==81.83.186.203 18:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Heatwave 

message: I would cut this into 3 pieces, as there was a notable cooling spell following Heat Wave #1 on the east coast.  Have 1 be the first Midwest-East heat wave in mid-July, 2 be the West heat wave in the interim, and 3 be the East heat wave in early August.
Along with the comments above regarding Europe, I could only find (English) reporting on US sources about the heat, however I'll bet it has in impact in Mexico, possibly Canada.  I'd support changing the name of the article if other sources are found. Castellanet 22:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has also had a connection with the Great Lakes-Atlantic Coast derecho (July 17-18) and the St. Louis derecho (no article yet) (July 19). There have been heat records broken across Canada as well; not sure about Mexico or the Caribbean. North American Heat Wave of 2006 sounds better. CrazyC83 02:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add cites and rename, as soon as we have sources, change the name. Castellanet 07:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know about Mexico, as there wasn't much information about it, but Canada doesn't seem to be experiencing this heat wave on the scale of the United States. Toronto, and the rest of Southern Ontario are on some level, though. Toronto has issued some heat alerts this summer, but most of the other cities have been generally normal. Montreal did experience some hot days, but nothing consecutive for several days. ♠ SG →Talk 17:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My city, St. Catharines, Ontario, experienced record temperatures today. The temperature is at about 110 Fahrenheit right now I believe. Canada IS INDEED being affected by this North American heat wave. --Matt0401 18:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  North American Heat Wave 

message: I hate to be a wet blanket, but is this really more significant than any other summer heat wave the weather people talk about?  Maybe time will lend more perspective, but from the article and the sources this doesn't look to be in the same category as other weather disasters.  Friday (talk) 23:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's true, I see no problem at all.  But honestly I can't tell- people die from the heat every summer.  To compare, the Chicago heat wave saw 600 people die in one city alone.  This article talks about 22 deaths across 10 states- not remotely in the same category.  The perspective of more time will help us see how big a deal this is, or is not.  Friday (talk) 15:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Friday - You've hit on the very point, in Chicago the 600 deaths weren't reported at the time.  This time, the time is now, there are likely far more than 22.  If WP editors scour available sources, as was done with Hurricane Katrina, we would discover more. Castellanet 16:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I have created an article to deal with these bouts of oppressive heat that seem to occur regularly. Please help me edit it. Go to Summer MPS 14:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, I have added weather issues as an example in the Wikipedia:Recentism article. Feel free to edit. MPS 14:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Apparently the front page of the NYT, 100s of other papers and now Wikipedia is not enough to satisfy.  Is it because most of the people who died were poor, and therefore are not newsworthy?  Or are victims morally culpable for lack of air conditioning? Or more seriously, do we somehow know a priori that people die from heat without documenting?  In short, I appreciate that this story can legitimately be criticised for supposed recentism, but give reasons, and if based on empirical observations, provide citation to reliable sources.  Then we can talk.Castellanet 20:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? bob rulz 02:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Castellanet... I am not saying this heat wave is not noteworthy; I am saying that wikipedia doesn't have articles on the great heat wave of 1856. What about all those poor people??  My point is that recentism isn't bad; it just is. Wikipedia tends to focus on recent events, and if it's not on the internet, it doesn't exist. this article should stay, just as I believe the Jennifer Wilbanks article should stay. Not necc because it is important, but because it was reported.  MPS 19:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Apologies to bob rulz, my indentation was off, I was responding to MPS.  Thanks to MPS for the response.  I understand better now, but I think you underplay your hand: you are saying more than recentism just is, but instead that there is something wrong about it, perhaps not "bad", but maybe.  The essay you began on recentism (as commentors say, not exactly a policy), is a criticism of certain articles, and I think a valid one.  However, I disagree that a heat wave is simple documenting Summer (guilty of recentism) where a hurricane is somehow more newsworthy (not recentism).  I think both are similar in that wind, rain and tide surge happen all the time, more so in Summer.  Hurricanes are extreme forms.  In the same way, heat happens every Summer, but heat waves are extreme forms.  Both have serious consequences.  I also appreciate that the Jennifer Wilbanks article democrotizes what is notable, and that this reflection of culture comes with the Wikipedia technology.  I think we agree that recentism should not be added to the criteria for article deletion, leaving editors to arbitrate whether an article shoul be included based on this standard.  Information should be available to all about all subjects anyone wants to author or read; the existing deletion guidelines and committee seem to work well on this point.  As for this heat wave, this article provides cumulative documentation, not available elsewhere, which is why you'll know about this one and not the hypothetical (?) heat wave of 1856.  We'll know much more about this one.  I think even the folks at Long Now would approve.Castellanet 07:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism? 

message: The news sources in Shreveport have reported that water mains have ruptured, and other news outlets in the U.S. has reported that several roads, even concrete ones, etc. have cracked and buckled, creating Pot holes and damaging vehicles. If you live in a area that is affected by this heat wave, your news outlet will have more info. Martial Law 19:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Source info is the Shreveport Times, TV Channels 6,3,12, then there are the national news sources. Martial Law 16:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Recently, other news sources have indicated that the heat wave has ignited several wildfires. Martial Law 15:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Physical damage

message: How did Phoenix set a record high on August 29? Should that be July 29. - SimonP 01:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Error

message: I think we can declare this heat wave over now, since cool weather has finally returned to the southern Plains. Anyone disagree? It's kind of hard to officially declare when a heat wave begins and ends. bob rulz 20:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the update.  I agree that the heat wave ended a while ago.  I wasn't able to add stories information as it became available, so it is a matter of doing some research to look back now to early-mid August.  Authoritative sources have stated that abnormal temps declined about that time.  Castellanet 00:02, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, any updates and articles you can find would be great. However, it's possible that it really only ended yesterday; for example, Dallas-Fort Worth had something like their 5th or 4th longest ever streak of 100-degree days end yesterday; however, it's possible that it ended earlier. It's hard to say since it simply didn't get much more news coverage after early August. bob rulz 03:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its finally over in the U.S. The Southern U.S. often get heatwaves until LATE September or mid October. Martial Law 04:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Heat wave over?

message: I failed this GA due to the lack of sourcing for a few major areas. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:32, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA

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* "SF Chron Jul27" :
** The heat wave that was, S.F. Chronicle, July 27, 2006 (75 California deaths + 25 non-Cal.)
** "Heat and solar radiation on average kill more U.S. residents each year than lightning, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods or earthquakes, said Karl Swanberg, a forecaster with the National Weather Service. Between 1936 and 1975, about 20,000 U.S. residents died of heat."
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