Talk:Page 3

message: Removed her from list of Page 3 girls - If a "Page 3 girl" is defined as someone who appears in the Sun Newspaper - Lucy Pinder is not, according to her website, she had a contract with the Daily Star - Therefore, I doubt she has ever appeared in the Sun on Page 3.
--Rrose Selavy 14:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although the term 'Page 3 Girl' originated with the The Sun, the article itself appears to be more generic and hence could include those who have posed for the Daily Star.  Did Linsey Dawn McKenzie ever pose for The Sun, or even the Daily Star for that matter?  She is listed here.Silver Barnet (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucy Pinder 

message: I've removed the NPOV tag from this article for the time being as (a) no-one's put a justification for it here (b) the article is well balanced as far as I can see. Smallbone10 23:23, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: The current image (:Image:Rahn240.jpg)) doesn't look anything like a modern "Page 3", in style or in content, and as such is more than a little misleading. Assuming it doesn't represent a copyright problem, wouldn't a photo of the paper be better? PeteVerdon 17:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you no sense of history?! Pcb21 Pete 19:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: I'd like to request we get a few more pictures on this page. I don't think they'll improve the article, I just want to see some naked birds. More Pictures.--Crestville 00:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An extra picture or two could be helpful, because certainly the current picture is nothing like modern page 3 girls. Perhaps there is a famous example whcih could be here as well? Mathmo 02:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Simple request

message: I request that we add one or four. It would give a good idea to the readers how obscene it actually is. The reading content could give the reader the implication that the pictures are pornography. Ghost109 (talk) 18:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given all the articles on sex on Wikipedia have explicit photographs this should have some sort of image as well. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:36, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has no example images 

message: "Diane West" links to the page for "Dianne Wiest", an American actress.  I'm not sure whether she would be appalled by, indifferent to, or elated by this association, but I am sure it is incorrect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemus123 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diane West 

message: At the risk of stating the obvious it might be worth clarifying that the Sun's Page 3 Idol contest takes place towards the end of the previous year, especially with reference to this sentence 'The 2008 winner, 19-year-old university student Jenny Grant, committed suicide in the early hours of 13 September 2008'.  It was precisely because of this suicide that no competition was held in late 2008 to choose a Page 3 Idol for 2009.  With reference to this sentence 'The 2009 winner was Kelly Hall'; she won the competition in late 2009 to be Page 3 Idol for 2010.Silver Barnet (talk) 15:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sun Page 3 Idol Competition and ambiguity over dates 

message: I edited this article by including a link to a relevant article at the end. Why was it removed?
The article is here: http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/12025/
Why would this be removed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.203.132.209 (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why would someone remove the link I posted? 

message: The list of US equivalents listed in that section included:
* The American supermarket tabloid Weekly World News regularly featured a bikini-clad "Page 5" girl. 
::There is some talk on forums about this, but there is no proper citation for it.
* Yes! Weekly, a local on-line and print publication in Greensboro, North Carolina, features Page 3 talent, sometimes featuring men as well as women. 
::This is a local talent feature and nothing to do with topless modelling.
I've taken those two out and added citations for the other two examples (a dressed Page 3 girl in FOCUS, and Jet Magazine's Beauty of the Week so I've provided citations for them and left them in, and removed the unreferenced section orange box.--The Vintage Feminist (talk) 08:49, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing of 'US similar feature' to the Page 3 girl. 

message: I removed this section because it was almost entirely uncited. Without a direct assertion linking the individual features to The Sun's Page 3, which is unlikely, it all counts as original research anyway. As topless or nude modelling was featured in other publications in the west before 1970, it is not the case that Page 3 was a first. Nor has a source, as far as I know, been bold enough to say that The Sun was the first newspaper in the world to feature a topless model.
Some of the examples, a passage in the Australia section for example, refer to clothed rather than topless models, which does not demonstrate a connection to Page 3 in its usual format. An article on the use and attitudes to nudity (concerning both sexes) in the  international media, which is an issue not wholly related to censorship, would be a good idea, if it does not exist already. 18:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The 'P' word slipped my mind. Wikipedia does have articles on this issue, see Pornography by region. Philip Cross (talk) 09:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  International section 

message: The article says: As Caroline Lucas explained in an article for The Independent: "So long as The Sun reserves its right to print the odd topless shot, and reserve its infamous page for girls clad in bikinis, the conversation isn't over." Is it in fact the case that The Sun replaced the topless Page 3 models with models wearing bikinis? The article doesn't clearly indicate that that is the case.— Preceding unsigned comment added by  Metropolitan90  (talk • contribs) 03:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a sentence about Jo Swinson's reaction which attempts to clarify this. Polly Tunnel (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page 3 after 2015 

message: This edit has been rather harshly ctiticised elsewhere... if you add unsourced content like this, expect it to get reverted until you do find sources. 
Now I have other questions about the edit in which this was raised, see User talk:Ritchie333#I am listening but maybe that is a bit harsh where I think these belong.
But I note that the edit in question has not yet been reverted. A well-deserved and constructive citation needed tag has been added.
And I also note that the information in question is easily verified by primary sources, as several Sydney libraries have collections of the newspaper in question either as fragile archives or microfilm. I looked at Trove but their scans end in 1954, and that was evidently before the page 3 girl was adopted. 
It seems to me a constructive edit, and I hope sources will in time be found, but other comments welcome. Andrewa (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sydney Sun 

message: I heard some years ago that the Daily Telegraph usually published an account of a sexual offence, or court proceedings connected with one, on page 3, and was able to confirm that that was indeed the case. As surveys have shown its readership to be more educated than that of the Sun and Star, it may be that verbal input suffices for them where the others require visual stimulation. Having no military background I rarely look at the Telegraph, and so am unable to say whether that is a regular feature. Could a user confirm whether the paper still provides that service to its readers, and if so mention it on the main page? NRPanikker (talk) 00:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Daily Telegraph