Talk:Buddy Ryan

message: It is deceptive, at best, to say that the Eagles lost due to overreliance on Randall Cunningham.  It is much more accurate to cite the weakness of the offensive line as the team's downfall.  This is a fairly clear factual error.  The team set records for allowing sacks even though Cunningham was arguably the most elusive qb in NFL history.  It is now acknowledged that his ability at qb was underappreciated during his career in Philadelphia.  He should not be blamed.  67.82.236.5 (talk) 17:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Please fix this article. The NFC Championship is not a real championship, just as a division title is not a "championship." Also, how could Ryan have worked for the Oilers and Cardinals at the same time? 76.21.45.13 10:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NFC Championship

message: The legacy section reads like it was written by his fan club. Ryan is a very controversial figure in the NFL and none of the controversy is listed here. I agree his defensive schemes left an impact on the league, but there is more to it than that. For example, another legacy of Ryan's is the injury bounty. Jeff Fisher, a former player under Ryan with the Bears, has been accused of ordering a bounty that injured Shawne Merriman. CNN/SI's sports columnists have linked the bounty to Fisher's relationship with Ryan.  And in talk shows people tend to speak of Ryan as a clown figure, often citing his fight in Houston and his constant "guarantee"'s of victory. --Aaronp808 (talk) 17:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A personal viewpoint from one columnist is extremely flimsy evidence of any guilt-by-association claim with regard to any Jeff Fisher/Shawn Merriman incident. It's speculation about a rumor. mes286(talk) 07:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy NPOV 

message: In talking about the legacy of Buddy Ryan the writer states that the Eagles led the nfl in fewest yds rushing, fewest yds passing and points.   This is an error because the Eagles did NOT the nfl or even the nfc east!! in pts allowed.  The Eagles D gave up 244 pts that year.   Four teams gave up fewer  The Saints 211.  Redskins 224. Broncos 235. and 49ers 239.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.36.167 (talk) 02:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  mistake  

message: First, according to what is listed on the Buddy Ryan page, he was born in 1934 and served in the Korean War as a Master Sergeant in the Army.  I don't know where that info comes from (and I would love to assume it's a story that Buddy tells), but Buddy Ryan would've been 19 at the end of the war (1953).  However, it also states that he was playing college ball from 1952-55, so Ryan must have been just past his 18th birthday when he completed his service in Korea... as a (barely) 18yo Master Sergeant.  Ridiculous!
Second, I remember seeing the "fight" game, and as I remember it, Gilbride was not facing Ryan when Buddy hit him.  It was a sucker punch, and Gilbride was restrained before giving Ryan the ass-whipping he so richly deserved.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.231.65.26 (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors in Buddy Ryan page 

message: "The Eagles Encylopedia" By Ray Didinger, Robert S. Lyons pg 119
http://books.google.com/books?id=yV7lvstPuqgC&pg=PA119&dq=buddy+ryan&cd=2#v=onepage&q=buddy%20ryan&f=false
I will try to figure out how to make a footnote.
~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for 18 year old master sergeant Buddy Ryan 

message: According to Bowden, the 46 defense did not come into existence until there was a #46 Doug Plank on the Bears. The "began formulating the 46 defense" in the Jets section is on real shaky ground. 66.234.33.7 (talk) 15:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  46 defense and the Jets 

message: "accused by Jimmy Johnson, the Dallas Cowboys' coach, of putting a bounty on the helmets of a quarterback and a kicker."
I do not know how to retrieve a webpage, but it is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/26/sports/sports-of-the-times-the-backfire-from-buddy-ryan-s-bounties.html?pagewanted=1
66.234.33.7 (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  re: bounty 

message: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/06/sports/pro-football-notebook-what-soap-opera-buddy-ryan-eagles-basin-water.html?pagewanted=1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 16:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  re: Arizona 

message: I think his post NFL career includes raising horses.  I think it was in the New York Times within the last year.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 02:55, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horses 

message: Shouldn't the article mention that Buddy is the father of (Jets Head Coach) Rex Ryan and (Cleveland Browns Defensive Coord.) Rob Ryan. Both Ryan Twins articles mention Buddy- shouldn't his include them?Dcrasno (talk) 19:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal 

message: Buddy was NOT the LBs coach on the Jets. He was the DL coach.  See "The Ultimate Super Bowl Book" by Bob McGinn, page 31.  Walt Michaels served as both LBs and Secondary coach, and as de fact DC although Buddy had input in the defensive strategy. Buddy was NOT the Defensive Coordinator on the Vikings.  The DC was Neill Armstrong (see:  The Ultimate Super Bowl Book by Bob McGinn, page 85).  Please correct this info in the "biographical box" located along the rightside of the page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torretta13 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:08, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: I removed the part under Head Coaching Record listing Super Bowl victories in Super Bowls III and XX.  He was a defensive coach that helped win those Super Bowls, not a head coach.  That placement implies he won those Super Bowls as a head coach and, as such, has been removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.253.190.41 (talk) 12:55, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Bowls