Talk:Rudolf Nureyev

message: Isn't the following sentence very odd POV:
"Not long after, for disciplinary reasons, he was told he would not be allowed to go abroad again. He was condemned to tours of the Russian provinces."
I'm no expert in Nureyev, but if no one objects I'll remove it Paradiso 08:28, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Odd POV

message: I have taken the liberty of removing Nureyev from the former category; to list him (or anybody) in both is redundant, and as :Category:Tatar people is itself a category within :Category:Tatars it is the category under which he (and all other Tatars) belong. 
Some Wikipedian committed to Tatar affairs might care to move any other Tatars from Category Tatars to Category Tatar people; I have other, not necessarily bigger, fish to fry.
:I returned the previous category, since the category "Tatars" no longer exists.Тангичи (talk) 11:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Tatars vs. Category:Tatar people 

message: Most people seem to have this illusion that Nureyev "leaped to freedom" in order to have so-called "artistic freedom" in the west, when in all actuality if he remained in Russia he would have been sent to prison, etc. for his sexuality, and whether people like this or not it is the truth.
A user named Derek Parker put in the following edit, which is wholly inaccurate - 
"The fact that he was by then a known homosexual was not, as has been suggested, relevent; the KGB winked at homosexual artists who were considered valuable to the State."
If Nureyev was valueable to the state then why would the KGB want to send him back to Russia during the Kirov's tour in Paris?
I dont known where on earth he got this idea, but that is simple NOT true. In light of this, I reverted back to an older edit. Mrlopez2681 19:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tchaikovsky - this is the time of the Russian Empire (however, there was also criminal prosecution for manifesting a sexual orientation different from the normative one). There were different periods in the USSR - in the 1920s the minister (people's commissar) could be openly gay (like Chicherin). But in the days of Nuriev, open homosexuality could be the reason for state to puting human to prison. However, I do not sure that this was the reason for the migration - in most Western countries at that time the situation was still similar.Тангичи (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexuality 

message: === Nureyev's choreographies===
LA BAYADERE ACTE III - 3 october 1974 - After Petipa
		
MANFRED - 20 november 1979 - Original choreography
		
DON QUICHOTTE - 6 march 1981 - After Petipa
		
RAYMONDA - 5 november 1983 - After Petipa
		
LE LAC DES CYGNES - 20 december 1984 - After Sergueev and Bourmeister
		
ROMEO ET JULIETTE - 19 october 1984 - Original choreography
		
THE TEMPEST - 9 march 1984 - Original choreography
		
BACH SUITE - 16 april 1984 - Avec Francine Lancelot
		
CASSE NOISETTE - 20 december 1985 - After Petipa
		
WASHINGTON SQUARE - 25 june 1985 - Original choreography
		
CENDRILLON - 24 october 1986 - Original choreography
		
LA BELLE AU BOIS DORMANT - 18 march 1989 - After Petipa
		
LA BAYADERE  - 8 october 1992 - After Petipa
===NPOV===
While i can't claim to be any expert or even some one who knows much about this chap and only came to this page after reading a review about the new biography on Rudolf Nureyev by Julie Kavanagh. The review in "The Sunday Times" (UK), paints a totally different picture of what Rudolf was like. As far going on to use the phrase the Beast within the Beauty. I honestly think some of Julie's work needs to be taken into account into as it seems to contradict what has been written about him here, in particular his personality.  as an example i  read in the wikipedia article he was known to be a generous and loyal friend while the review says "he was shamelessly exploitative, using people as stepping stones and then discarding them" and  "towards inferiors he was violent and foul mouthed, berating waiters, throwing food around...Anti-semitic obscenities were his specility". sounds quite different to what has been written here.  and i can't say its a piece of work that should be dismissed as she spent 10 years reaserching it. anyways thats my two cents Philbentley 16:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There can be multiple viewpoints and personality and style variations can vary greatly depending on who is asking, what they are asking and of whom. Benjiboi 14:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs format changed 

message: While i can't claim to be any expert or even some one who knows much about this chap and only came to this page after reading a review about the new biography on Rudolf Nureyev by Julie Kavanagh. The review in "The Sunday Times" (UK), paints a totally different picture of what Rudolf was like. As far going on to use the phrase the Beast within the Beauty. I honestly think some of Julie's work needs to be taken into account into as it seems to contradict what has been written about him here, in particular his personality.  as an example i  read in the wikipedia article he was known to be a generous and loyal friend while the review says "he was shamelessly exploitative, using people as stepping stones and then discarding them" and  "towards inferiors he was violent and foul mouthed, berating waiters, throwing food around...Anti-semitic obscenities were his specility". sounds quite different to what has been written here.  and i can't say its a piece of work that should be dismissed as she spent 10 years reaserching it. anyways thats my two cents Philbentley 16:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There can be multiple viewpoints and personality and style variations can vary greatly depending on who is asking, what they are asking and of whom. Benjiboi 14:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: The article had the tone of a scandal drahamah-filled fan page with much unfootnoted analysis. I have made a first pass to chop out some of the worst offenses, but it could use someone to clean up after me. Many of the items could probably be returned, if properly sourced. TheRedPenOfDoom (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just recently I was listening to someone on radio criticising wiki biographies, that they frequently sounded like they had been writen by the subjects PR agency. Can't say what was here a year ago, but this seems a little lacking in his personal life and relationships. Sandpiper (talk) 23:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

text: For example, it would seem Robert Tracy, lover and then secretary for 13 years, ought to have a mention. Tracy says Nureyev said that he had slept with three female lovers, two of whom became pregnant. Sandpiper (talk) 00:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: The mention of Alexander Pushkin may be misleading for some, especially given the wording. I wasn't able to find anything on Nureyev's Pushkin even in ruwiki, the only other two Alexanders listed there are the poet's son and grandson. Bansp (talk) 23:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pushkin 

message: No mention of the guy he was sending letters back and forth to? He even sent the guy some nude photos of himself. He was a fellow ballet dancer, as I recall. And yes, it is relevant, whether you like it or not. --98.232.178.38 (talk) 04:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Early life and career at the Kirov

message: This article seems to focus on the sensationalist and celebrity aspects of Nureyev's life, somewhat at the expense of his dance style and innovation.  It is mentioned that he pioneered, or at least expanded, the integration of modern dance into the classical ballet oeuvre, but there is no associated exposition to corroborate or clarify this. I am not an expert on Nureyev, but I am interested in the subject--it would be appreciated if someone with ballet expertise expanded the section on his professional dance career and style, for which he is arguably most reknowned. 
Alanrobts (talk) 13:46, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Call for expansion 

message: Hello and please forgive me I'm sure I'm doing a bunch of things wrong. It took me forever to find the talk page. I'm sorry I didn't post here before editing. A person changed Nureyev's sexuality from homosexual to bisexual and cited that it's because he had relationships with women in his youth. It is widely accepted that Nureyev is gay. I feel like there is constantly an attempt to erase homosexual people, and I've seen it on wikipedia often enough and finally had enough at this one. My opinion is that if neutrality is the goal, leave a definitive statement about his sexuality off his page. I didn't edit it to state that he was gay (although he was), I edited it to take out an untrue and not backed up statement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fixingstupidlies (talk • contribs) 20:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, the claim he's bisexual is/was followed immediately by a citation for that statement (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/10/08/wild-thing-2). Whether it's necessarily correct or not, I don't know, but it is a claim that's backed by a citation of what's generally considered a reliable source. (I will grant, though, that said source doesn't really offer a substantial backing of that assertion.) To quote WP:Verifiability, "Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." I'm not sure the claim, for that reason, should be removed/disputed out of hand, but if other (also reliable) sources make the contrary assertion that Nureyev was strictly homosexual, those can be included as well. I think it's probably a reasonable compromise to just say that opinions differ, and provide sources thereof. - Vianello (Talk) 05:06, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexuality 

message: I'm sorry, there is a new information about Mr. Robert Tracy, that Nureyev and he met in 1973, actually they met in 1978.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.91.180.94 (talk) 09:07, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Robert Tracy

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message: the long paragraph on the film, along with some editorial comment, is inappropriate.  This could be put in a new article on the film itself.  The film is based on an earlier documentary and the Julie Kavanagh book.
TGcoa (talk) 23:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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