Talk:Workers' Youth League (Norway)

message: I admittedly seemed angry when I undid the Texas IP's revision who was basically justifying the shooter. But we certainly can't go to the point of removing everything that's "politicized", otherwise we wouldn't understand much of it! It's an article about a left-wing youth movement, so it would be preposterous not to say that when its meeting was attacked, the shooter was motivated by far-right purposes. 82.240.207.81 (talk) 00:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes on the massacre 

message: has been requested to exercise due caution in light of the fact that he has declared himself closely associated with this subject. Recent edits by Toresbe and attempts to address the situation on his user talk page have been futile, so I have filed a report at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Workers' Youth League (Norway)‎‎. __meco (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They haven't been futile; I've told you to look at any one of the previous COI allegations on my talk page. Please learn how the COI rules work before accusing people of having COIs. I'm getting pretty frustrated. toresbe (talk) 08:48, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict-of-interest editing 

message: I agree with User:Toresbe that a list of members of AUF is not needed. Such a list would have include thousands of people, be impossible to maintain and is thus POV. Please do not re-add such content.  A listing of leaders and their deputies is acceptable because of their role within the organization at question. If folks want to work on this article, the history section would most probably be a good place to divulge. Arsenikk (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And please do not add links to people on other languages of Wikipedia. If the people are notable, make a red link and consider making an article on them. If they are not notable, they probably shouldn't be in an article of this scope anyway. Arsenikk (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Now  I have added Berge Furre and Tonje Brenna to one category—and the not so relevant other category includes Aril Edvardsen, Gro Harlem Brundtland, Øystein Mæland and Oddvar Norli. If other encyclopedias mention the AUF membership of notable people, then why should we not cite that in this article? --No parking here (talk) 10:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: But Berge Furre is not notable for his AUF membership, he is notable for what he did after he left the organization, much like for instance Anders Behring Breivik would not be fit for inclusion in a brief FpU article.  :) toresbe (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: But Berge Furre is notable for what he achieved as an AUF member in 1958 (and for the amount of press he got that year). And seperately he is notable for what he did after he left the organization. I have already added one citation—a link from NRK, to support my view. What citation do you have to support your view, of something that happened 5 years before JFK visited Dallas, Texas for the last time? --No parking here (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop adding a list of members, there is no consensus for such a list, and it is unclear what inclusion or exclusion criteria you have for your list. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop removing a list of "Members who became notable outside AUF", there is no consensus for not having such a list. --No parking here (talk) 09:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone in this debate except No parking here agrees that there should not be a list or other mention of members who are notable for other issues than their involvement in AUF. This means that there is consensus to not include such a list and adding it is disruptive. Arsenikk (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I also find this list a reasonable element of this article. AUF is in essence a leadership academy, and one of national significance at that, so it becomes intrinsically of interest to present members who have gone on to other notable achievements, in whatever capacity and arena. __meco (talk) 15:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim that AUF is a «leadership academy» is strange. Sure, teaching people how to participate in politics, which I guess you could say is a type of leadership, is a part of what the organization does, but... it's not exactly an MBA program. Having a members list, or notable members list, is simply not going to be a very practical endeavour. Indeed, As Arsenikk correctly pointed out, AUF has had too many notable members for this to be a workable idea. The list of members is simply being used as an awkward way of formulating the history of the organization, which is woefully incomplete on this article and something I hope to ameliorate myself in due time. toresbe (talk) 15:52, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: @"simply being used as an awkward way of formulating the history". If there is consensus that this is the case, then I suggest we keep the list and add some tag at the beginning of each section (or subsection)—to address the allegedly "awkward way of formulating the history", and to indicate/hint (in few words) a better solution. Is there any suggestion as to what tag I should add, next time I expand the lists with new notable names from the first Stoltenberg Government? --No parking here (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members list 

message: See Breivik a "terrorist" or not according to WP:Label?. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 15:18, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:Label]] 

message: The news media usually calls the WYL a branch of the Labour Party. It is not. Given its origins in the merger of the Left Communist Youth League and Socialist Youth League of Norway, is the League politically to the left of the Labour Party?203.80.61.102 (talk) 04:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political orientation