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Talk:Giric

message: Can anyone supply a pronunciation for Giric? --Iceager 12:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The first sentence is simply not true.
First of all the man's name was NOT "Giric" but "Grig" - the Melrose Chronicle should be regarded as authoritative here.
Grig means "heath" (compare modern Welsh "grug").
So Grig was a Pictish/Brythonnic name referring to the resilience/toughness of heather.
Second the Gaelic name "Griogair" is a corruption of the GREEK name "Gregor" which means "watcher" and hence, by allusion "shepherd" - whence its use amongst Christians, clerics in particular. So Gregor and Greig/Grig are actually completely unrelated and the conflation here is an example of intellectual sloppiness which was rife and on this occasion has so far resisted the attempts of Wikipedia Central Command to apply some rigour.
If you want a modern Gaelic translation is is "Fraoch" (which is the name of a major hero of Irish mythology). The name has been rendered in many different ways over the years (Fraich/Fraech etc.). "Freuch" is an Anglicised version.
 
One is left with the matter of why the conflation. I suspect that the best scribes writing in Latin could do was to render "Grig" as "Ciricus" - and to be fair it does look close.
The name "Ciricus" is a rendition of the name "Cyriacus" which means "of the lord" see:
https://www.behindthename.com/name/cyriacus (think also "Kirie Eleison" etc.)
So in short we have several names: Gregor, Grig and Cyriacus all entirely different with different roots and different meanings and it is silly to try to conflate them 
So
1. The headline name should be GRIG
2. The modern Gaelic should be FRAOCH
3. The version "GIRIC" should be understood as a faux Latinisation (Cyriacus is better) referring to the Greek name "Kyriacos".
It is probably BECAUSE OF the conflation of Grig and Kyriacos that the church was dedicated to "St Cyricus" now St Cyrus.
Freuchie (talk) 15:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: Grig filius Dunegal (king 878-889 d.c.890)
Dunegal filius Seluach
Seluach filius Eogan
Ewen filius Murcerdach
Murechat filius Arinchellac (became king of Cenel Loairn in c.733, died 771 per Four Masters)
Arinchellac filius Ferchar longi d.719
Chronicle of Scotland MS. Colb. Bib. Imp. Paris 4126 2605:A601:A715:9A00:D469:8D6A:FF64:5129 (talk) 05:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pedigree
Talk:EMD SD40X

message: The original SD40X #434 was sold to Gulf Mobile & Ohio as #950. SD40X Demonstrators #434A-434D were built in February 1965 and sold to Union Pacific as #3040-3043. SD40X Demonstrators #434E-434H were built in April 1965 and sold to Union Pacific as #3044-3047. Data from A J Kristopans website. --SSW9389 13:25, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Be cautious

message: #I think Be Cautious may be a policy whose need has been felt for some time. However, people who would go around making changes to policy pages could be - a) newbies, who cannot be expected to look at this policy page before making changes, b) regular editors who have been around long enough (they wd/shd already have an idea abt the process and hence wd anyway try to build a consensus before changing a policy) and c) vandals who wd not bother abt policy before damaging the policy pages and who wd anyway be reverted without much ado. So, while I do feel a need for the Be Cautious policy, I am not sure about its efficacy and who its targets shd be.
#Apart from the appropriate policy talk page, after attaining consensus, a discussion should also be initiated on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) as some of the current policy talkpages are inactive or not monitored actively by many editors thru their watchlists.
#The current draft would suggest Be Bold on the article space and Be Cautious on the Wikipedia space. I am not sure if that is what is intended.
#Be Cautious may be required for some edits in the article space as well - e.g. moving pages without discussion, merging pages without discussion etc.
:Please view the above points more as pointers to lead the discussion rather than my points of view. --Gurubrahma 13:25, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: My take

message: ... of this proposal, but not the letter. Many policies are continually fiddled in small ways. Take a look at  if you want to see what I mean. There is an issue of proportionality here: small changes don't usually require general community discussion. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:56, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, fixing the grammar in a policy page doesn't change the policy. -Splashtalk 17:31, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: I agree with the spirit...

message: Just a thought: you could take the view that policy pages exist to document the actual practices and policies of Wikipedians. That is, policy pages don't so much define policy but describe it. Hence, changes to policy pages aren't so critical. For example, the Wikipedia:Blocking policy page has been recently updated to reflect the consensus that widespread personal attacks are disruptive, and therefore such users are blockable. — Matt Crypto 18:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That'd be m:Descriptivism, more or less. -Splashtalk 18:37, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I do so wish we could get this through to people more. Typically folks get tangled up in voting and rules and "you can't change this rule!", and you never get past that point to actually just describing what people actually do, as succinctly as possible. *sigh* Kim Bruning 18:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Policy pages as describing de facto policy

message: I've redirected this to WP:BOLD, which already has a section cautioning people when not to be bold. Please add corollaries of a policy to the policy's main page, it's more easily understood that way. Radiant_>|< 11:17, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge/redir
Talk:EMD SD35

message: EMD SD35 Demonstrator #7715 was sold to Atlantic Coast Line #1000. The Demonstrator was added to the roster on the article page, roster now reflects original 360 units. C&O 7425 and 7428 were wrecked and replaced with new units with the same road numbers. Data from A J Kristopans website. --SSW9389 13:30, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Now corrected in article, frame was common with SD28, but not the earlier models, despite sharing common major dimensions. Compare steps, and side sills. SD28 and SD35 also had central air filtration and equipment blower, requiring redesign of frame. Wuhwuzdat (talk) 18:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :EMD SD35形ディーゼル機関車. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 30#EMD SD35形ディーゼル機関車 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Qwerfjkltalk 12:20, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "EMD SD35形ディーゼル機関車" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Google Sets

message: Does anyone know how this things works(or doesn't)?
: Well sort of, but the problem is that I don't find what it can be used for :)--Khalid hassani 15:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I use it sometimes when I am trying to think of a word or name - Sort of like a thesaurus, but for things other than dictionary words Rm999 06:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How does it work?

message: Hello. I wrote an article about a related topic, Google Groups. As a new Wikipedia writer, I would appreciate any feedback on my article. Please help me by posting your feedback at the Wikipedia:Article Feedback Desk. If you wrote an article and are seeking feedback on it, please post your article at the Article Feedback Desk as well. If you could suggest better ways for me to seek feedback on my article, do leave a note at my talk page.  --J.L.W.S. The Special One 13:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seeking feedback on [[Google Groups]] article
Talk:Moorby

message: The Old Rectory has recently been announced as an independant country, Old Rectoryland, as a constitutional monarchy. WTF is this? A yet another micronation hoax article? Does this town actually exist? jni 13:38, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax? 

message: Old Rectoryland is a micronation. Yes, it's all a bit of fun, but it's also generated local interest/lowscale tourism. It's a feature of the village. Less a hoax or a malignant edit, more a 'fun fact'. http://www.oldrectoryland.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.232.250.93 (talk) 22:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Hoax. 
Talk:Hornsey College of Art

message: Recent use of the building, I have moved the information to the bottom and made a heading for it. I feel this is a better arrangement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.99.187.38 (talk) 11:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Jack Hargreaves

message: WASN'T JACK HARGREAVES ALSO EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK TIMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
He was, among other things, Editor of "Picture Post" and "Lilliput". There will be more information about his work in the media when Paul Peacock's biography of JH is published later in 2006. So far as I know he did not edit any US paper but he did briefly work in local radio in USA before WW2 and later did various documentaries about America, including a programme called "On the Edge of Abundance" in the 1960s, working with the American sociologist David Reismann and other US social commentators.Sibadd 09:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Journalism 

message: His videos based in Dorset sort of imply that he lived there in childhood - this is not documented on the Wikipedia page on him. It would be interesting to have more background on when he moved to Dorset.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.115.214 (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dorset

message: The books, The Old Country and Out of Town, have Jack born in Yorkshire (West Riding) not in London. Jm butler 08:39, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that information. Is Peacock's biography of Jack any good? I found his biography of John Seymour a waste of time compared with John's own writings. Jm butler 21:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth 

message: I don't want to simply add a section with this title or how it would otherwise be introduced, but surely no entry on Jack Hargreaves would be complete without mentioning him as the inspiration for the recurring "Fast Show" character Bob Fleming?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.188.147.35 (talk) 12:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture? 

message: I changed the wording to clarify statement of opinion rather than statement of fact and added a  tag on the highly subjective and unclear statement on the "proper use" of landscape. This needs more clarification and sources which I couldn't locate with a simple online search. The article severely lacks sources and seems to be copied almost entirely from one website (possibly the Military Wiki but both the proximal and distal source is unclear). De121 (talk) 08:43, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Proper use" of landscape
Category talk:Languages of Iceland

message: Uhm, a bit redundant, maybe? Or are we going to add Polish, English, Danish etc.? What's the idea? :) -  Haukur Þorgeirsson 13:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, this is a completely useless category. Stefán Ingi 14:12, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, therefore I have nominated this category for deletion. Max Naylor 15:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same issue has arisen on the Breton wikipedia. I would argue that this category is useful in as much as it makes it possible to include Iceland and it's languages in the main categories "Languages of Europe" and "Languages by country"... Otherwise, any country with only one language would be absent from these main categories. Neal  (Kaozeal/Talk)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.165.108.154 (talk) 07:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Lowercase (music)

message: Room-tone recorded is just that, otherwise you have sound effects, at the very least minimalism. All 3 are genres, and only one fits as music by itself. All this sub-ambient talk is just meta genre-garbage people with too much pretentious time on their hands have to come up with. If it's music it's melodic, and thus transcends any "improvisation" or randomness of this form in order for it to qualify even as pieces within a puzzle of music. This article should be deleted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Takeheed (talk • contribs) 12:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Nonsense
Talk:Illbient

message: American centric article. This term isn't  used elsewhere.--Dr. Who 17:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I used it in January 2001, and I'm not at all American. At the time I think I picked it up from The NME or Q magazine, although I was using it tongue-in-cheek, and assumed it was a blanket term for unsettling arty ambient music. Wikipedia's article reads like a lot of raving nonsense, but it's the kind of internally consistent raving nonsense that's hard to unpick. I suggest leaving it for a few years, at which point it can be squashed down to a sentence, and then merged with Ambient Music, and deleted. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 21:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: This article contains the word "resteragentrified". Only two pages on the internet include that word; and those two pages are Illbient and the talk page you are now reading. Is it a mescaline-induced typo for "gentrified"? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 21:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The word has been removed. Ftiercel (talk) 19:50, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "resteragentrified"

message: What is 'iconoclastic' meant to be in the context of this article? It is never explained which icons were being smashed by the illbient movement. Unless there is an explanation who or what these icons or images stood for (stilistically, culturally, politically?), the term iconoclastic does not make any sense. 
--109.91.109.186 (talk) 21:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification needed

message: Perhaps somebody can take the time to include facts from this oral history account by the people involved in the NY scene at the time. http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2014/08/illbient-oral-history  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.133.16.171 (talk) 10:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Bull Oral History
Talk:Typhoon Imbudo

message: More intro and impact. Jdorje 19:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo
Talk:Revolver (The Haunted album)

message: This article needs some work. Right now, it reads like something that you would find on MetalInjection, or MetalSucks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrainPower3 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixing this Article
Talk:Cardigan Bay

message: The bay in Wales is the commonest meaning of "Cardigan Bay" and all others are derivatives of it. I have moved the old disambig page to Cardigan Bay (disambiguation) but could not move this one into its place. --Stemonitis 15:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support as per request. Stemonitis 15:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments
Page moved. Eugene van der Pijll 18:45, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Add any additional comments
Page moved. Eugene van der Pijll 18:45, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion
Talk:Retro Gamer

message: I'm not sure if it is valid to anticipate a future event in the way that the later part of this article does, in referring to the relaunch of Retro Gamer. I've altered it to read more correctly at present. Hopefully it can be reverted once the launch has actually taken place! Jon Rob 16:02, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's taken place.  I have the March 2006 issue in hand out here in the US.  Bobak 16:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past or future? 

message: I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 20:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Does anyone have access to Retro Gamer Volume 2 Issue 1? There's an article in there I'd like to use as a reference for another article. Thanks, Marasmusine 12:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retro Gamer as a reference 

message: Is the magazine still being published or not?  Having read the article, I'm confused on this point.  Casey J. Morris (talk) 03:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is confusing 

message: The magazine actually isn't published monthly but every 4 weeks which amounts to 13 issues per year!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.51.138.245 (talk) 23:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monthly? 

message: Regarding this edit, does anyone have a copy of this issue of the magazine and can confirm what is being said  in the article? And, who is the one saying this? Is a developer being quoted? Thanks. SharkD  Talk  19:59, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retro Gamer issue 20, page 48 
Talk:James MacLaine

message: What happened to the original article i started? Dammit you guys...at least leave SOMETHING...!
124.82.15.109 15:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An article was deleted as a copyvio, as it looked almost identical to this. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey! 

message: "However, in passing himself off as a young gentleman in search of another wealthy wife, he had neither the funds nor the habitude necessary to rise above the accompanying inducements to profligacy." - I mean, really! Plain English goes some way to providing a comprehensible article for those for whom English is not the first language, or simply for those not regularly engrossed in the thesaurus...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.41 (talk) 02:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Unnecessarily florid
Talk:Boksburg

message: Could some shed more light on 196.25.34.22 edits...
* Paul Kruger's Farm Gedult: Untrue-the farm 'Geduld' was at the present day city of Springs.Boksburg was developed on the farms 'Leeuwpoort'and Driefontein'. 
* Chris Hani's grave: Untrue-Hani is actually buried in the South Park cemetary in neighbouring Germiston.--Jcw69 16:17, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I know Gedult is a suburb of Springs--Jcw69 16:21, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: A home of South African medical schools started here. Tpebanee (talk) 11:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOGETHER AS ONE. 
Talk:Desensitized (Drowning Pool album)

message: Sinner and Full Circle don't appear that way to me. Just this one. I don't know how to fix it. dannymusiceditor  Speak up!  22:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's looking normal now, but I have no idea why that infobox module is breaking it.  - Mlpearc (open channel) 22:18, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  why does the article look like one giant infobox? 
Talk:Lockheed YO-3 Quiet Star

message: Hi, there is an inconsistency in the dates, it says the prototypes were built in '66 but the Army requirement was from '68, so at least one of the dates must be wrong. Sadly, I can't help further... 176.206.71.47 (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date inconsistency 

message: In the infobox, it says retired 1971, but in the texts, it says it was used by various agencies for several years. I suppose the primary user retired the plane in 1971, but I think the infobox should be more explicit about this. Nø (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retired?
Talk:Juniper pug

message: Thuja, which is referenced in the article is not a cypress. Read he Thuja entry for more information.
:The article says Thuja belongs to the cypress family and links to Cupressaceae rather than saying that it actually is a cypress. I reckon this is OK Richard Barlow 10:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Thuja]]
Talk:Dark cabaret/Archive 1

message: ===Antony and the Johnsons...=== 
Why is this included? i have listened to the music and find no 'Dark cabaret' element at all... can someone please justify the inclusion? DjDrAkiraGonzo 15:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bands that maybe shouldn't be considered? 

message: Why is this included? i have listened to the music and find no 'Dark cabaret' element at all... can someone please justify the inclusion? DjDrAkiraGonzo 15:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Antony and the Johnsons...

message: As above, can somebody find some rationale as to this inclusion? DjDrAkiraGonzo 15:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Das Ich

message: http://rickamortis.livejournal.com/168762.html#cutid1
After seeing Projekt's recent compilation "A Dark Cabaret" I decided to do my own rendition of the theme. This comp: Le Cabaret Des Ombres (The Cabaret of Shadows), combines classic acts with a few modern ones, and a handfull of New Wave/Goth musicians that were all inspired by the Weirmar era of 1930's Berlin, and the Parisian scene of the 20's. Not all of this is strictly cabaret, a few tracks are more along the smoky jazzy noir lines (including my own contribution), but they all blend together quite nicely I must say.
::Wow how random. Never thought I'd see someone quoting my LJ posts on wikipedia. =) --FACT50 19:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Check the compilation '''Le Cabaret Des Ombres (The Cabaret of Shadows)''' by DJ FACT.50

message: With the list of albums and the List of Dark cabaret artists, I think this article is becoming far too inclusive. Acts like Devotchka or Regina Spektor have very little to do with either cabaret or punk, even if they've toured with Dresden Dolls or others. Yes, even if they happen to have "unusual" instruments in today's popular music scene or feature piano strongly. If we can't begin to cite appropriate outside sources here, we're in need of considerable trimming. The articles (and this talk page) are turning into someone's "dark cabaret" playlist and/or an advertisement for any band with an accordion and make-up instead of any sort of authoratative, academic, and verifiable statement on what dark cabaret is. Bjart 20:40, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article continues to grow without discussion. External links are being added without any support in the article itself, links to artists not notable enough for their own article. I don't want to make ultimatums, but I'd like to see this article improve in quality more than quantity. Bjart 16:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: If I knew more about Wikipedia, I'd nominate this for deletion.  A search for the phrase on Google suggests that, outside of 'pedia's mirrors and the Projekt.com album, this genre does not exist at all.  I suspect goths are attracted to the phrase, but applying it to both Clare Fader and Gogol Bordello (as suggested above) is going too far.  This may not be helpful, but as a passive Wikipedia user, I felt obligated to comment on the worst page I've seen here.  As you say, the talk page is also pretty terrible.  128.135.6.3 07:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On inclusiveness
Talk:Giblets

message: Giblet faact sheet
The external link that is supposed to link to a factsheet about giblets, instead links to the USFDA Homepage. 
Is the anus really considered a giblet? How could that possibly be clean?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.37.162 (talk) 23:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it isn't. That was slipped in by some nameless person (or someone like me, too lazy to log in). I'll go fix it, but why didn't you? 66.92.68.103 (talk) 05:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I didn't know if it was true or not. :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.237.94.135 (talk) 18:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Birds don't even have anuses. They have cloaca. --76.124.9.157 (talk) 05:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)