Talk:Winny

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I didn't require any Probatio Diabolica, I required only another evidence for another fact. You had never put any evidence for another fact.
None requires Probatio Diabolica of you .
Lack of  evidence means impression.
Then, a fact merely being there is nonsence.
Accepting 'He said' or 'There is' as the prefix concealing writer's real intention
, he can put any bias on article.
What but the site for donating to suspected person means profit-making?
If you put it on the article, anyone can put any advertisement on any article because 'being there is fact'.
If any information concerning about him were to appear, any privacy concerning crime fact of him should appear, since a suspected person is limited to no privacy of him concerning crime fact because the Supreme court permit them in a judicial precedent.
It is hard to escape the conclusion that the donation isn't needed for NPOV of Winny article .
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The word 'inaccurate' doesn't mean dissatisfaction of reader.
If one think so, he should put 'accurate' fact based on accurate evidence on here.
Any monkey can say word 'inaccurate', but only human can put evidence of other accuracy on here.
Monkey's speculation doesn't mean evidence.
Last post has many word 'inaccurate', but no evidence for accuracy is put there on.
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Many of my previous propositions that the statements in the article was inaccurate contained claims that the statement was inaccurate because the statement was presented as fact where it could not be verified as a fact. As you stand by your statements, I presume your standpoint is that the statement can be verified. This is a classic case of a Probatio Diabolica ('Akuma no shoumei') - according to its principles, if you require proof, the burden of proof needs to be reversed, to be on your side. For instance, to counter my allegations that your statement that Kaneko's intents on the development of Winny was only to facilitate copyright infringement cannot be proven/disproven, you merely have to present a single explicit evidence that your statement can, indeed, be proven.
My claim that your statement that other Japanese P2P developers had never faced litigations contradicts with reality, in fact, did come with an evidence (the link). In this case, you were on the "did not" side and I was on the "did" side. As the burden of proof was on me, I searched out and presented an evidence. No speculation concerned there.
Concern on bias whatsoever has not been addressed in the reply. I await your opinions on the issue of neutrality in the wording and structure of the article.
Additionally, I have yet to receive a rational explanation for the deletion of the paragraph concerning Kaneko's defense fund. If there was a false statement in the paragraph, please state so.
Also, please append to Talk pages instead of replacing them.
Wingnut29530 17:36, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

message: NHK is public broadcasting station known as its neutrality and fairness in Japan.
NHK is fulfiling the NHK program standard.
The standard contains following clause:
[the NHK program standard](in Japanese)
*Clause 12  Advertisement
**1. We don't broadcast any business advertisement and self-advertising publicity.
**2. When an organization name, a personal name or an occupation, a specific corporate name, or a specific brand name are contained in the broadcast, we determine fair whether we describe them specifically or not, investigating whether they are elementary for the broadcasting, and whether there is nothing for them but to describe specifically them in the direction.
I don't know there is the mass media having such a standard in U.S.A., but the neutral point of view should mean such a standard internationally.
Therefore the 'donating' site is POV making money.
Concerning the article of Napstar, there is nothing for the article but to describe specifically 'Napster'.
But linking to the site of Napster isn't must.
Needless to say, an encyclopedia is more neutral than any mass media.
:I don't really get your point. There was and is no advertising publicity in the article. Gu@k@ 14:17, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV mustn't include any profit-making link. 

message: The statement that Hiroyuki Nishimura stated that the nonexistence of 2ch's access logs makes attribution of 47's posts to Kaneko impossible should not have been deleted, as it is factual information and can be verified objectively.
"The nonexistence of 2ch's access logs makes attribution of 47's posts to Kaneko impossible".
This by itself is an unverifiable statement. This does not belong on Wikipedia.
This is because the question is on the nonexistence of 2ch's access logs and that its nonexistence makes the posts' attributions impossible.
Neither can be verified, therefore the above line does not belong on Wikipedia.
On the other hand:
"Hiroyuki Nishimura stated that the nonexistence of 2ch's access logs makes attribution of 47's posts to Kaneko impossible."
This is not an unverifiable statement. This belongs on Wikipedia.
This is because the question is not on 2ch's logs or attribution - it has now become irrelevant. Now that this is a statement of a statement, the question is now on if Nishimura actually said this or not. This (whether Nishimura said this or not) can be verified through multiple means, including by referring to the link I included with the article, by asking Nishimura himself, or by asking the 139,052 subscribers of Nishimura's newsletter. According to Wikipedia norms I take this to be enough objective evidence for it to be considered true.
Wingnut29530 06:30, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Hiroyuki Nishimura's statement

message: The link points to http://www.winny-english.tk/ but that no longer exists. Does anyone have another link or shall it be removed? --24.194.57.197 22:37, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winny client (English version) dead link 

message: The official website link seems dead too, but I can't read Jap so I'm not sure
     
Using Google Translate: "そろそろノートだけでもいいから返してもらえないと仕事に支障がでるのですがどんなもんなんでしょうか・・・・" = 
"Notes from just about time I returned to work this kind of trouble are there. What does it look like?" 
So yeah I'd say its dead 70.73.210.43 (talk) 02:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official website dead link 

message: I've got a bandwidth meter & even when the winny cache is empty people still download *something* from me.  Does anyone know what's happening there? Yaguchi 15:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winny scares me 

message: What does a virus originating from Winny mean -- a virus spread through the Winny network or a virus using the Winny protocol to upload stuff?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.8.31 (talk) 11:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does ''a virus originating from Winny'' mean 

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