Talk:Ross (1978 album)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: Ok, this article is a bit of a mess.  I am going to trim the lead substantially, and will post the content I removed to this talk page, in case it is needed in the future.
Furthermore, it is pretty uncommon for an artist to have two albums with the same name.  Usually, if someone is looking for an album article, they would search for Album Name (album).  Doing so for this album, though, takes them to the    disambiguation page. Since neither article is incredibly long, I wonder if it would be beneficial to the readers to combine the two articles.  I am thinking one article, Ross (album) with subsections Ross (1978 album) and Ross (1983 album).  The lead would indicate from the start that there were two albums by the same artist with the same name.Then, both subsections could include info about how each album is different, including songs and other related info.  The benefit would be that the reader only needs to go to one place for info on both, and that it would overall be a longer and more in depth article.  Maybe even a DYK candidate, something like:  "Did you know Diana Ross released two ablums entitled Ross, one in 1978 and the other in 1983?" Cool, huh?  Good idea...bad?  Support...no? --Quinn CLOUDY 22:52, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hahaha, you did create a smile on my face, Quin. :) Personally I reckon that both albums (thus articles) should remain anti-Chang & Eng, i.e. separated. I just think that it's only gonna be a matter of time before someone gets the luminous idea to separate the articles (again). I think it would be different when both albums were released in the same year, and/or if both albums were released in different markets, perhaps even with (slightly) different tracklistings, and/or if no other albums were inbetween them two albums. But I'd love to hear what Bokiluis thinks (and others, of course) of your proposal. Robster1983 (talk) 14:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to combine 

message: This is what I removed in an effort to trim the trivia stuff out of the lead:
Ross is a 1978 studio album/compilation released by American singer Diana Ross on the Motown label. The album was a mixture of older tunes Ross recorded and newer recordings. Ross was a modest commercial success, peaking at #49 on the US Pop Albums chart, #32 on Black Albums and failing to chart in the UK.
The songs on Side A, "Lovin', Livin' and Givin'", originally from the Thank God It's Friday soundtrack, "What You Gave Me", a disco cover of the Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell hit, "Never Say I Don't Love You"  and "You Were the One" were 1978 recordings produced by Hal Davis and Greg Wright, and were in many ways precursors for the following disco album The Boss.
Songs like "Reach Out, I'll Be There", originally from 1971 album Surrender, "Sorry Doesn't Always Make Right" and "Together", the A- and B-sides of a 1975 non-album single, were extended and/or remixed for the Ross album release. "To Love Again" and "Where Did We Go Wrong" were both previously unreleased outtakes from earlier recording sessions. "Where Did We Go Wrong" is not to be confused with a track with the same title released on the 1993 album Stolen Moments: The Lady Sings... Jazz and Blues and the Forever Diana: Musical Memoirs box set.  "To Love Again", originally recorded in 1975, was in 1981 to reappear in remixed form as the title track of a ballads collection on the Motown label, To Love Again.
While alternate versions of most of the recordings contained on Ross have re-surfaced on a number of Motown compilations over the years, three of the songs on Side A for example as bonus tracks on the deluxe edition of Ross' bestselling album diana, the Ross album in its entirety and in its original form is as yet only available on vinyl, making it the one and only of Ross' original studio albums for the Motown label not to have been re-released to compact disc.
A different album also titled Ross was released on the RCA label in 1983.   --Quinn CLOUDY 23:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really understand what you trimmed, seeing as the lead section includes most of what you copied above, but my question is why you removed the fact that "Where Did We Go Wrong" is not the same song that Diana Ross recorded in 1993. That is an important fact (if correct), especially given that this album is already one that shares its title with yet another Diana Ross release. UndDerMarlena (talk) 23:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed content