Talk:Correspondence chess

message: Can we please give a unique meaning to the term "World Champion"?
There is only one international chess federation, that is ICCF, so I don't see why we have FICGS so called world champions in this page.
FICGS is a webserver, FICGS world champions are n. 931, 282 and 60 (Eros Riccio, clearly the stronger FICGS chess player), in the world ranking.
None of them was ever able to qualify for a ICCF world championship final (probably Eros Riccio will be able to do so in the future).
FICGS history started some years ago thanks to the effort of a webmaster, FICGS championship is probably managed by the webmaster alone.
ICCF was founded in 1951 as a new appearance of the ICCA (International Correspondence Chess Association), which was founded in 1945, as successor of the IFSB (Internationaler Fernschachbund), founded in 1928. 
All ICCF titles, championships and ratings are recognised by FIDE.
Mauropetrolo (talk) 13:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with removing FICGS.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 17:40, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, I didn't know that when I undid your removal.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:38, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

text: I agree, but unfortauntely don't have such dates to hand. If anybody does, that would be great. The dates we have right now seem to be a mix of start dates and end dates, which isn't very useful. --Camembert 15:37, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Champions 

message: *Angelfire comparison -- these servers are old, minor and irrelevant;
*FICGS -- one-month old chess server;
*CorrespondenceChess.com -- nothing here;
*eChess.org -- not a server and of no particular use;
*itsyourturn.com -- not a server...;
*chessontheweb.com -- there are 300 users on this site, and 3/4th of them are clones.
└ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 07:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some data in this article are quite old. Now correspondence chess is generally daily chess. I have already added list of the most popular chess platforms for correspondence chess (or if somebody prefer daily chess). (2023) PlayChessBetter (talk) 17:59, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  links 

message: Tim Harding wrote an interesting column examining some details in The Oxford Companion to Chess entry on correspondence chess.  I'm not very knowledgeable about correspondence chess and don't have time to incorporate anything from his column into this article right now, but I'm recording it here in case someone can make use of it: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz95.pdf. Quale 04:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commentary on [[The Oxford Companion to Chess]] entry on correspondence chess 

message: I came to this article because I recently started playing correspondence chess, and was hoping to find something insightful in the article about the problem of cheating in correspondence chess (by using a chess program).
At first I thought the section on 'computer assistance' might help, but in reality it is pretty outdated (2006 is a long time in computer science), and contains a pretty strong and (I should say) sort of unlikely claim, unless I'm missing the point of the editor that wrote it: that the strongest available chess programs can be beaten by moderately strong club players.
I'm pretty sure that the consensus is that, apart from a very small number of humans (i.e. top level grandmasters), chess engines beat almost every human player in a one-on-one match. Yet it looks like the section in this article claims otherwise.
My proposal for a rewrite: first, I would really like to get rid of this whole outdated 'hydra' information (the engine isn't even developed anymore. rybka is generally considered the strongest engine right now). Second, get rid of the whole discussion about how strong computers play against humans, which I believe to be a tangential point for this article (the question about the relative strength of human vs. PC chess belongs into another article, probably 'computer chess'). 
Finally, I'd like find some material on how prevalent or problematic cheating is in correspondence chess. Because I believe /that/ would be highly relevant for this article: for example, any survey that explores how many players on correspondence chess servers use a chess engine, or if there are algorithmic ways of discovering if a player uses assistance (I'm not an expert in chess engine design, but I can easily imagine that there should be some statistical analysis that, based on a players moves, can say with some certainty if he/she is using an engine.) Not sure how much I can find on that subject, so if you can link to something relevant I'd be grateful. Thanks for your input.
Minvogt (talk) 13:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In 2023 you cannot find IM or GM who is ready to play correspondence chess with engines support. Elite GMs have no chances against basic chess programs on their mobiles. PlayChessBetter (talk) 18:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  'computer assistance' is a pretty strange section 

message: The article says "match between correspondence chess grandmaster Arno Nickel and six computer programs on the now defunct Chessfriend server ended +1=3-2."  Who won 1 and who won 2?  I assume that Nickel won 2, but it isn't clear.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 07:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  unclear 

message: No external links to correspondence chess services should be added -- either inline or in the "External Links" section -- unless the service is a) very prominent and b) focuses mostly/entirely on correspondence chess. For example, linking to Chess.com is inappropriate because it is a general pay-to-play chess service, and not specifically about correspondence chess. Wikipedia is not the proper venue to advertise it. Likewise, some service on which one can play correspondence chess via instant messaging is not appropriate for linking.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.104.178.144 (talk) 08:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linkspam 

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message: Why should we have a section about players of correspondence chess?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicachicaboomer (talk • contribs) 13:49, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing players section 

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message: There also existed  telechess. It's somewhere between online chess and correspondence chess. It was played before the internet. Between 1977 and 1990 there were three olympiads of telechess. 213.149.61.19 (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types 

message: Game of correspondence chess was changed by computers. So today exists so called engine assisted chess, where computer program called chess engine is used while playing. 
One of the well known and free is Stockfish. Of course, it is important to know and understand the game to be able to efficiently direct engine analysis . Although there are competitions where computer help is forbidden, in practice that is difficult to enforce. 22:34, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: How computers changed the game

message: I have introduced some updates to the article, especially concerning sections related to chess engines and types of correspondence chess. Currently, correspondence chess is experiencing a renaissance thanks to modern chess platforms. The vast majority of both amateur and professional players exclusively participate in daily chess tournaments. Personally, I don't know anyone who still plays using email or traditional mail. 
Considering the growing popularity of daily chess on leading platforms, I believe this Wikipedia article is quite significant. I also attempted to create a separate article for daily chess, but it was suggested that I move this information to the correspondence chess article. PlayChessBetter (talk) 18:17, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correspondence chess in the 3rd decade of the 20th century.