Talk:International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies

message: The tasks listed at the bottom of this paragraph seems quite arbitrary and is extremly incomplete. Since it is impractical to list all areas the Federation is involved in, I'd suggest that we change this to the four main core areas: promoting humanitarian principles and values; disaster response; disaster preparedness; and health and care in the community. (see here) (Timoluege 14:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Activities and Responsibilities

message: :The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was Move. 
   
User:Draeco/Fed → International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies — This article should be moved into the main namespace as part of the ongoing effort to split the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement article. - Draeco 23:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
# Support as nom. - Draeco 23:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Over a week with no input; I'm contacting an admin for the move. - Draeco 18:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to create IFRC article 

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
# Support as nom. - Draeco 23:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: # Support as nom. - Draeco 23:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in support of the move

message: :Over a week with no input; I'm contacting an admin for the move. - Draeco 18:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Moved from my talk page. -- ZH8000 (talk) 12:56, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , all, ICRC, IFRC, ARC and all other national organizations are part of the Movement, therefore this chapter describes relationships within the Movement and not to other organizations outside of the Movement.  -- ZH8000 (talk) 12:56, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The ICRC is both an org other than IFRC and within the movement. I changed the header to the mention ICRC specifically, which is what the section is about. I hope that clarifies it for readers. Station1 (talk) 18:25, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, that is clearer. Speaking as a lay reader with minimal knowledge of the Red Cross, I can say that the term "the Movement" meant nothing to me and was unclear. Marquardtika (talk) 21:24, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

text:  I don't agree, it is about a conflict of primarily ARC with ICRC, but this involved also the IFRC, so a Movement-internal conflict. -- ZH8000 (talk) 08:47, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's so, the section needs to be rewritten to say that. As it appears now, it says it's about a former conflict between the IFRC and ICRC. Station1 (talk) 09:36, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

text: The issue here is what on earth is "the Movement?" It doesn't appear to be defined anywhere, and it means nothing to a lay reader. Do you mean "the movement of Red Cross affiliated groups" or "the movement of XYZ..." Please specify. The fact that "Movement" is capitalized is extra confusing. Is it even meant to imply a proper noun? In any case, please, please try to make this clearer for lay readers with no familiarity with the Red Cross, as that is who we can be expecting to be reading this article, and trust me, we have no idea what the heck "the Movement" is supposed to mean, so either define it or change the wording to be more clear. Marquardtika (talk) 20:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's referring to the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, but as a minimum that should be spelled out. Station1 (talk) 09:43, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In the third paragraph of the lede, it says, "The IFRC is part of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement..." (my emphasis) so it already is spelt out at the top of the article, but I do agree, that a single sentence added to the section in question to save anyone the trouble of having to (re)read the rest of the article would be a good idea. TheVicarsCat (talk) 17:13, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Within Movement