Talk:American purple gallinule

message: I am proposing again to correct the name of this page to "Purple Gallinule", as reflected in the International Ornithologists’ Union List of bird names version 3.3
There is no bird called American Purple Gallinule
"..whatever the IOC says. Porphyrio porphyrio is the Purple Gallinule not just for many people but in reputable books on ornithology." is not a valid argument when the references listed are 25 years old. Even if they were 2 days old, the official IOC name should be used as the page name for Wikipedia bird species pages. If those names change, then their Wikipedia page should change with discussion on the pages of the change.
Ornithologists have conferences and heated discussions about the official names for birds which are published and used officially until they may be changed again. Wikipedia is no place to argue or re-hash those decisions. If there are other names commonly or not-so-commonly used for a species, that fact should be discussed in the proper articles, not in the mis-naming of the pages.
While it may be that some people in Africa call the Purple Swamphen a Purple Gallinule, that is not a valid reason for mis-naming a Wikipedia page. The Northern Mockingbird is called a Nightingale in Jamaica, but it would be silly and incorrect to name the Wikipedia page of Mimus polyglottos, "Nightingale", or to put it in a disambiguation page.
The correct name for Porphyrio martinicus is Purple Gallinule, and the correct name for Porphyrio porphyrio is Purple Swamphen. There is no discussion or opinion relevant to that. What is open to discussion is how the clarification between these two species should be handled in Wikipedia. I do not think it correct to mis-name the Wikipedia page for a species based on a local or out-dated name.
I propose to:
*1) correct the page name of Porphyrio martinicus to Purple Gallinule
*2) change "It should not be confused with the American Purple Gallinule, Porphyrio martinica." on the Purple Swamphen page to:
**"It should not be confused with the American bird, Purple Gallinule, Porphyrio martinica.", or
**"It should not be confused with the new-world bird, Purple Gallinule, Porphyrio martinica.", so that the adjective "American" does not appear to be part of the name.
*3) add a similar sentence to the re-named Purple Gallinule page referencing the "African" or "old-world" Purple Gallinule.
*4) change the wording of "also known as..." to: "also known locally as..." in each page, to correctly label local names as just that.
*5) delete the Purple Gallinule disambiguation page. It does not decrease ambiguity, it increases it, because it references a bird "American Purple Gallinule" that does not exist.
BeadleB (talk) 03:15, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-Address name change to the correct "Purple Gallinule" 

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