Talk:Barrie

message: Does anyone else get the impression that the band themselves added this?  They're not signed and aren't even really locally known... I'm deleting this soon unless someone provides a good reason to keep it in the town's article.
: I live and have lived for my whole life in Barrie and must say, who are the 55 Stitches????   Wikada - Talk Contributions 00:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not notable - delete.  PKT 02:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  55 Stitches 

message: Does anyone know what constitutes Metro. Barrie? I've lived just outside Barrie my whole life and I've never heard of the term. I assume (based on the fact that there is an exact population) that it is an offical region, and I'm just curious if anyone knows what it includes/where i could find this info. Thanks Priester 17:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm from Barrie and I'm pretty sure that Barrie isn't part of a metropolitan area. —    nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 07:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metropolitan Barrie 

message: I've lived in the Barrie area all my life (Barrie since I was 19) and I have have never heard of a  neighborhood called Tall Trees --Jbfraser 21:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barrie's neighborhoods 

message: Why didn't we make Barrie have the Barrie page and create a disambiguation page for other cities. eg. This article is about the City of Barrie. For other articles named Barrie, see Barrie (disambiguation).
If you see what links to Barrie (the page, not the city), most of it is related to Barrie, Ontario. Just my thoughts...   Wikada - Talk Contributions 00:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah thats my point.. when you look at the "What links here", almost ALL of it links to Barrie, Ontario. I meant that the surname and other articles should be on the disambiguation page.  Wikada - TALK CONT ISU 12:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Switch around some pages...

message: Why did somebody get rid of the breakdown of people in Barrie? :( It used to say there was a high-90s percentage of white people, proving our ultimate hickishness! :'(
Edit: Ah, it was done here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barrie%2C_Ontario&diff=89939213&oldid=89562026
In all seriousness, these were actually interesting stats, even if they weren't sourced.. it'd be nice if something similar (and sourced) could be put in its place, instead of just deleting it all.
:It'll be over a year before Statistics Canada releases anything from the 2006 Census for such things but from the 2001 Census, Community Highlights, City of Barrie, see the Immigration Characteristics table (scroll down, 8th table on the page) and "Canadian-born population" 89,790, "Foreign-born population" (states nothing about "whitishness") at 12,165 means that 12,165 * 100 / 89,790 ("Canadian-born population") = 13.548279318409622 or 13.5% of Barrie's population weren't born in Canada as of the 2001 Census — if StatsCan't managed to sum the "Immigrated before 1991" and "Immigrated between 1991 and 2001" numbers properly.  9,975 + 2,190 = 12,165. Wow. They actually got that right; it's rare.
:I wouldn't use the above method though. Knowing that 12,165 is the number of people in visible minority groups (means "not of white skin" in the Ontarios) the Barrie CSD, according to the 2001 Census, that number should be applied to the total population of the Barrie CSD in the first table, fist row: "Population in 2001" was 103,710.  So what percentage is 12,165 ("Foreign-born population") of the total population?  12,165 * 100 / 103,710 = 11.729823546427538 or 11.7% of those residing in Barrie immigrated from 2001 back to forever ("Immigrated before 1991" means what again?  Since the first known appearances of homosapien in what is now the City of Barrie, from 1991 to the 1981 Census, from 1991 to when?  Click on the footnote to find out nothing then email infostats@statcan.ca to point out their stupidity), not 13.5%.  Ask StatsCan't why.  It shouldn't be so and wouldn't be so if the whole population of the Barrie CSD were included in "Canadian-born population" and the two Foreign born (for what?) columns, but it doesn't include the whole population, none of the data does, and they don't bother to address that either; leading to many incorrect percentages based on totally incorrect StatsCan't totals with no column for "Unaccounted", "Lost", "Went missing", "Evaporated", etc. to account for what is missed in every one of these tables that never account for the entire population.  But for proper percentages the real total population is the number that has to be used.
:The Visible Minority Status table below that gets into ethnicity but StatsCan't can't add two numbers and get the right answer with no rounding involved so the total in the "Visible minority population" column has to be checked (sum the numbers below it other than what isn't indented under it; "All others") then take the number from the top table, first row, "Population in 2001" 103,710.
:If the actual sum of Chinese to but not including "All others" is actually correct then the percentage of maybe "white" people would be 4,960 (but the actual total of all visible minority groups) * 100 / 103,710 (2001 Census Barrie CSD pop) = 4.782566772731656 or 4.8% rounded, as in only 4.8% of the City of Barrie's total population were visible minorities as of the latest/only verifiable information available as yet and for another year or so. To inverse a percentage, subtract it from 100.  E.g. 100 - 4.8 = 95.2% "whities."  :)
:...I just imported the data into Excel (there's a "Download file" button at the top-right of the page cited above that uses comma-separated value (.csv) files that import into any spreadheet/database app) and the actual sum of "Visible minority population" is 4,960 as StatsCan't claims (first time ever around these tables): as of the 2001 Census.
:So the above percentages are correct out to 15 decimal points if anyone wants to add them to the article.  To round either of the percentages above, just pick however decimal points you want (1 or 2) in the percentage, look to the immediate right at the number you're chopping and if it's 5 or over then the number you're chopping at is bumped up by 1.  E.g. 4.782566772731656% of the City of Barrie's population belonged to a visible minority (non-white) group, so to round to two decimals you'd look after 4.78 and if the next number to the right had been 5 or more then it would have been rounded to 4.79%.  But since a 2 follows the second decimal number (8), the 8 stays as is. 
:This reference can be copied/pasted in to back it up:
 
:If the above is copied/pasted in for verification, don't forget to change the accessdate= to the year-month-day (use 0 prior to any day/month under 9, as in 2007-04-02 for it to expand to the proper date format given the user's settings) if/whenever any of the above is used in the article and the reference above is used to back it all up.
:You can also get the Barrie CA (2001 Census, same tables as for the CSD/municipality but with different data) or most any other geographical region from Statistics Canada, 2001 Census of Population, 2001 Community profiles.  Try it, enter Barrie (or whatever), select Ontario (or whatever is appropriate for the name entered if not in Ontario), click on the "Search" button and just in "Most common matches" you'll get this:
:Barrie, Ontario (City)
:Barrie Island, Ontario (Township)
:Barrie, Ontario  (Census Agglomeration)
:Dissolved (community(ies) having undergone an amalgamation/dissolution)
:Barrie, Ontario  (Township / Dissolved)
:I'm from Toronto so won't be documenting any "hickishness" in the Barrie article. :) —S-Ranger 02:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hick-ville!

message: Can somebody add Maple Grove to the list of schools it is located in the livingstone area and cundles area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.13.45.120 (talk) 15:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maple Grove Public School 

message: this section needs to be fixed highways 27 and 11 no long run with in Barrie's city limits and highway 90 is no more --JB  08:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography and climate 

message: Somebody at 76.69.123.114 added that the downtown Barrie fire of Dec/07 took place a week after the fire in Wasaga Beach. While it is factually accurate, the comment drew a connection between the two fires that shouldn't be made.  I therefore undid the edits.  PKT (talk) 01:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The fire of 2007 

message: move.
*Rename: Barrie → Barrie (disambiguation)
*Rename: Barrie, Ontario → Barrie
The term Barrie seems to be overwhelmingly associated with this city. Per WP:CANSTYLE and WP:PRIMARYUSAGE, the main article title should be used for this page, instead of as a disambiguation page. All entries currently listed on the dab page are either associated with the city (eg - electoral districts), or are part of an individual's name (that is, not the whole name). There is also one band, but it's called Little Barrie, and has its own primary title - a mention on the dab page is essentially a tangential link. Mindmatrix 17:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't really understand what the problem is here.  Unless one of those authors only goes by their last name and the article would most appropriately be moved to that one-word title, somewhat akin to Cher, there is no conflict between article titles.  The purpose of dismabiguation is to resolve conflicts where two or more articles would qualify for the same title, not to guard against the unlikely scenario where there is a reader that can't tell the difference between Barrie and James M. Barrie. Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dab pages aren't meant to serve as search indices for any and all titles which have the word that's being disambiguated in their name; they're meant to distinguish between articles which might otherwise qualify for the same title. If no other article on Wikipedia could ever be moved to the plain title "Barrie", then the plain title doesn't need to be a dab page. Bearcat (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename pages

message: I removed Alinka Chambers from the list of notable people because a Canadian Idol semi-finalist is not notable, and furthermore I can't find her name in the articles about the Canadian Idol series.  PKT 16:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable (?) people 

message: Can someone please upload a better pic of city hall under "Politics"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.75.179.145 (talk) 15:14, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Hall Photo 

message: Just couldn't help but notice that the panorama picture of Barrie in the box on the right side of the page is very small. It's very hard to make out any detail in the picture and could it be replaced with a better one? Thanks. 99.238.239.91 (talk) 04:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There aren't many photos of Barrie to choose from on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. The category for Barrie on Commons has no current viable alternate to use for the infobox, in my opinion. Mindmatrix 14:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Barrie 

message: I would like to either move the list of schools under the Education category or remove it to a List of Schools page and link to that under Education. I'm thinking this because it is a big list and is somewhat distracting in the article. Any preferences before I do this? Slapmaster3000 (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Education/Schools

message: What is the source of the major employers?  The city of Barrie lists major public and private sector employers on their website and the list on the article includes only some of them, and includes others, which presumably are less major employers.Mandinder (talk) 14:57, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy/ Major Employers 

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message: On the Denonym part of the Article, the word "Barrian" is claimed to be it. I have lived in Barrie for years and I can confidently say that I haven't heard of the word "Barrian" used as slang or officially I've never heard anyone outside of Barrie say "Barrian" in Toronto, Orillia, etc. I understand that Anecdotal evidence is not allowed on Wikipedia, but I tried to look for sources and none came up. I put a Citation Needed on it, but would it be considered okay if I went bold and deleted the Denonym altogether? I'm a new editor. ITooPie (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barrian Denonym 

message: I have mentioned a few prominent business and development figures from the mid 1800s, some of whom established bank branches, hotels, breweries and so on, all well sourced. I did so as it adds some weight to the section discussing Barrie's expansion and growth. It also emphasizes the community aspects. Edwardmayfield (talk) 16:25, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioning of Prominent Business and Development Figures