Talk:Midnight movie

message: In the second paragraph after 'On television' the word amplitudinous: "A quarter-century later, Cassandra Peterson established a persona that was essentially a more amplitudinous version of Vampira.". I've checked both dictionary.com and google for this word, and cannot find a definition. Perhaps there is a better known synonym that we could replace it with?
142.59.66.136 00:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  amplitudinous 

message: I completely fail to see how this article was "improved" in any way (from the introduction to the end), as one earlier editor suggests, with the use of misplaced, unnecessary apostrophes ("it's" for its, "John Water's" for John Waters), redundant and over-usage of the term "midnight movies" (let alone its repeated appearance in quotes), verb conjugations that don't match their subjects ("movies as it's [sic] name implies"), "Other movies" following "other popular movies" (was the second batch unpopular?), an extra "at", a missing "or", a capitalised "Is" in the middle of a sentence... not to mention DVD rentals "has led to the popularity... to fade", when VHS and BETA had already done so, years earlier - and as already stated previously.  And midnight movies are shown... to this day?! (This would arguably make them matinees... or at least a less-than-best phrase.)
The added information may have helped... but certainly not these "improvements", IMHO. Sorry. Zephyrad 06:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvement? 

message: What about the Waverly, now IFC Center? Jonathan F 01:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous venues

message: It has been suggested that the article List of midnight movies be merged into this article.  I support said merger, followed by a thorough cleanup of the page.  Any thoughts? --Charles 18:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Thorough cleanup"? What's thoroughly unclean about it at present? Zephyrad 23:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps I did not choose my words very carefully, but I do think the page could use better organization and expansion.  With the new list added, that should be expanded with more thorough information, etc. ---Charles 03:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: I cleaned up a few blatant grammatical errors, such as capitalising Elgin Theater one sentence but not the next, not capitalising the words 'Friday' and 'Saturday,' changing 'blacksploitation' to the spelling featured elsewhere on the website, 'blaxpolitation,' etc. I do have some concerns about certain words which may be weasel words- most notably, when discussing Pink Flamingos, the original author refers to coprophilia and incest as 'extreme perversions' and 'twisted acts.' While they may seem twisted to most of us, to some they are not at all and I fear these words may betray a bias on the part of the original author. Just a heads-up.
I agree with you there... while I like what's been done with the formatting, added pics, links and all, some of the phrasing could be briefer, and I think I saw some redundant mentions. Zephyrad 22:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  made a few edits 

message: Actually, what's on display in Pink Flamingos is coprophagia, rather than coprophilia.  The article text indicates that the practice is "illegal," which seems unlikely, although including it in a film might certainly complicate the rating/releasing proces.... Robertissimo 13:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copro...

message: What's with the post-mortem tense in the lead? Midnight movies still screen regularly, particularly at Landmark Theatres. --Jonathan F 00:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Port-mortem?

message: I deleted a couple of titles from the list. Basket Case, according to its article, became a cult classic thanks to the advent of home video, not midnight showings. Also, This is Spinal Tap? That might be stretching a bit. It certainly has a cult following, but how is it a notable midnight movie? I also added two glaring omissions. (152.163.101.11 09:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable midnight movies 

message: I'm wondering why a NYTimes essay by John Waters on his affection for the works of Tennessee Williams (added here) is appropriate for this article.  Aside from it being by Waters, a single paragraph on film adaptations of Williams's works, and a mention of Paul Morrissey, it has nothing at all to do with Midnight Movies.  Appropriate for an article on Williams, perhaps, or Waters - but here? Robertissimo 09:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's appropriate because of Waters's description of his own film as a "filth epic." That's called a good quote, my good sir. And we're the first to historicize it. You should be Wikipedia proud, Issimo—DCGeist 10:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waters on Williams? 

message: Aaaahhh... Notability rears its ugly head. First off, take a look online--I'm not so sure Targets lacks a cult following. Next, I wonder why you'd choose to scrap it instead of, say, 200 Motels. The issue here is similar to that with any list (or, in this case, list-type graphic) that presumes to identify notability. When I started working on the article, I tweaked the roster of films displayed in the graphic to try to get the most representative array of "Significant midnight movies of the classic era," avoiding the chimera of "most notable." Let's see...in sum, I removed Phantom of the Paradise, Dawn of the Dead, and The Toxic Avenger, substituting Targets, Flesh Gordon, and The Warriors. The criteria was not general fame, size of latter-day cult following, or, lord knows, quality, but historical significance in the midnight movie context. How Phantom got in there is a mystery, and while Toxie is a great cult film, it came after the classic midnight movie phenomenon had passed. There's no mark against the wonderful Dawn of the Dead other than that it's redundant of Romero/Night of the L.D. and I thought a broader selection would be more edifying.
Changing the graphic's title might be a solution--the one I was mentally working with seems a little unwieldy. Eliminating the graphic entirely might be another--Wikipedia best practices increasingly lean against these subjective sort of lists in articles...but it's so pretty!! And, as I say, I endeavored, as best I could, to give it a less subjective, more clearly historical angle. Entirely changing the present logic of it, as you suggest, is a third possible solution--swinging all the way to "notability." So in Donnie Darko...and in Priscilla...and in The Goonies, it would seem...and in at least one of these Hughes movies the kids seem to dig, but which one?...and Harold and Maude, because that later became a midnight fave...and Dawn of the Dead, definitely...and is Toxie back? And what goes out? Is that really the most useful way to go? I don't think so. I think keeping the historical orientation and changing the graphic title produces the most useful result.—DCGeist 07:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "notable midnight movies" graphic 

message: Could the midnight movie's television pedigree be supported by citations? Also could a more standard definition be written in the lead, one that simply states what a midnight movie is without immediately delving into its history? --Jonathan F 01:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.thereeler.com/reviews/el_topo.php Okay. ––Jonathan F 23:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Midnight movie origins

message: It should be noted in this small section that the X-Men sequels & 2 prequels (Origins: Wolverine & First Class) also had midnight releases. I know this for a fact because I remember attending the midnight release of X-Men: The Last Stand. And basically every major blockbuster film since then, including the Iron Man, Thor, & Captain America films, has released a midnight showing. However, the new trend that seems to be starting is that movie theaters are releasing certain blockbusters at 10:00 PM or earlier the day before the nationwide release. Twilight Breaking Dawn Parts 1 & 2 had 10 PM showings. For an even earlier time, a local theater in my town are scheduling a 9:00 PM showing of Iron Man 3 on May 2nd, the day before the film's nationwide release. Aidensdaddy2k9 (talk) 19:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Midnight Releases 

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message: The following line needs clarification: "George A. Romero's zombie masterpiece, in particular, highlights the differences [...] especially in its conclusion, an unmistakable allegory of a racist lynching" In various interviews, Romero has made it clear that he did not write NotLD to be a movie about race and cast Duane Jones for his acting ability, not the color of his skin. The film and its conclusion had already been written (with a white actor in mind, no less) before Jones was cast as the lead and Romero said that no scenes were rewritten after the casting (see https://www.thewrap.com/night-living-dead-casting-cult-classic-20545/ ). Certainly some critics might still view it as an allegory for a racist lynching, but the facts are stacked against this interpretation as anything more than circumstance. Does anyone have a quote from the source that we might weigh appropriately? Given the context, the wording should probably be softened. Thank you! Scoundr3l (talk) 15:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: The article does not include an actual definition of what the genre is. It explains cultural roots of the phenomena, but the article reads as if someone was supposed to know what it is before reading the article. 2603:6010:11F0:3C0:ACE7:6AF8:8DA2:8E6C (talk) 03:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  No actual definition