Talk:Communist Party of Turkey (historical)

message: ==Move==
We always have the page under an English name, with the original name in the first sentence. Hence I moved it.
Secretlondon 12:01, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)
== Shift material to other articles ==
This page ought to be restricted to the original TKP, with wikilinks to the current groups claiming the name. Material on TIP, SIP and the current post-SIP TKP ought to be shifted to separate articles. --Soman 05:13, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've physically met members of all three groups currently claiming the name of TKP. Only one has the legal registered name TKP, though. But even if there was only one group currently claiming the name, it still doesn't change the fact that the party is organizationally separate from the original TKP founded in 1920. One can debate over which article should be were, but I still consider that the original TKP is more relevant to have at this name, than the current group. --Soman 15:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Bring out a journal, organise a youth wing and set-up a website, and you'll qualify as a political party. The argument of location is rather strange. I suppose you are aware that many Turkish left groups are active in exile, not by free choice but because they were forced out of their country by state repression. The fact that this particular faction was given the legal recognition to the name TKP by the same regime shouldn't be a honour in eyes of communists. Lastly, I misread the "we" thing ('we're' and 'were' look similar at times). --Soman 15:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, in short wikipedia isn't really structured by Leninist criteria. The text inserted is taken directly from the party website. That constitutes a copy-vio, and even if the webmaster of www.tkp.org.tr agreed to have it published here it is highly unsuitable to copy-paste presentations from political parties directly into wiki-articles. --Soman 16:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: 'Your text'? Is it the slogan under the picture? I didn't add that one. Anyway, it should be removed. --Soman 16:22, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I also have that impression. Just provide a source that can be used as reference. --Soman 15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: This page ought to be restricted to the original TKP, with wikilinks to the current groups claiming the name. Material on TIP, SIP and the current post-SIP TKP ought to be shifted to separate articles. --Soman 05:13, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shift material to other articles 

message: *its incorrect to state that there would only be one TKP in Turkey today(Iscinin sesi and Ürün challenging that).
*Secondly, when there are several groups having the same name, the original one usually gets the main article name. Compare Communist Party of Germany and Communist Party of Germany (1990)
*Thirdly, the text inserted is not encyclopediatic (for example it uses "we" at several points). --Soman 15:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've physically met members of all three groups currently claiming the name of TKP. Only one has the legal registered name TKP, though. But even if there was only one group currently claiming the name, it still doesn't change the fact that the party is organizationally separate from the original TKP founded in 1920. One can debate over which article should be were, but I still consider that the original TKP is more relevant to have at this name, than the current group. --Soman 15:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Bring out a journal, organise a youth wing and set-up a website, and you'll qualify as a political party. The argument of location is rather strange. I suppose you are aware that many Turkish left groups are active in exile, not by free choice but because they were forced out of their country by state repression. The fact that this particular faction was given the legal recognition to the name TKP by the same regime shouldn't be a honour in eyes of communists. Lastly, I misread the "we" thing ('we're' and 'were' look similar at times). --Soman 15:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, in short wikipedia isn't really structured by Leninist criteria. The text inserted is taken directly from the party website. That constitutes a copy-vio, and even if the webmaster of www.tkp.org.tr agreed to have it published here it is highly unsuitable to copy-paste presentations from political parties directly into wiki-articles. --Soman 16:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: 'Your text'? Is it the slogan under the picture? I didn't add that one. Anyway, it should be removed. --Soman 16:22, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page content, recent edits 

message: === Mustafa Suphi ===
Ataturk had no reason to kill him. M. Suphi and his comrades were killed by the Ottoman Emperor's order.
This is not true. The latest sultan had no relationship with Mustafa Suphi. He was killed by nationalist militia in Lazistan. Who later attached themselves with Mustafa Kemal.
=== 15'ler ===
Suphi was killed by the order of Atatürk. The history can not be changed... 88.226.196.75 14:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also have that impression. Just provide a source that can be used as reference. --Soman 15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mustafa Suphi's Death 

message: Suphi was killed by the order of Atatürk. The history can not be changed... 88.226.196.75 14:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also have that impression. Just provide a source that can be used as reference. --Soman 15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  15'ler 

message: There are obviously different interpretations on who was behind the killing of Süphi. Someone with more indebt knowledge about the issue should rewrite the passage, and include some sources. --Soman 07:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert 

message: This logo isn't the logo of Communist Party of Turkey founded in 1920. This logo is Communist Party of Turkey 1920 founded in 2012. We must change this logo first.Beyaz Deriili (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo of CPT 

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