Talk:Russian jokes

message: ==What this article is about== 
–Gnomz007(?) 02:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What about adding those jokes to wikiquote or wikibook? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  20:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

message: Analyzing comedy generally kills the humor.  But wikipedia is not about delivering humor.   I recommend that someone use the jokes as examples of specific themes in Russian or Soviet humor.   The jokes themselves do not need to be encyclopedic. But it would be nice try to classify them.   Of course, these classes will  likely map on to those from other countries.  Humor, I believe, like music is universal.    Bon appetit.  Codwiki (talk) 10:37, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes in Russian Soviet Jokes 

message: Article says that "Rzhevsky, with all his vulgarity, does not use heavy mat". In Moscow most versions of Rzhevsky jokes I've heard are involving heavy mat. Actually, some of jokes are based on mat used by Rzhevsky in inapproriate situations and girls from high society, who don't even know about such words exist.
Plus - in "the ultimate Hussar joke" the word, which should not be said by hussars is "pizda" (eng. "vagina"), not "arse". At least in most regions of Russia. "To vagina" ("в пизду") is most popular rude and pretending to be humorous answer to question "Where to", asked by women. Arse could do the trick too, but it's not rude enough for hussars. Maybe, in some small ethnical or social groups it's "arse" like in article - I don't know.
I think, it'll be good if somebody with better English than my corrects the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.110.134.22 (talk) 11:27, 28 September 2012‎
:It looks like modern generation lost feeling of mat (or its perception changed), as well as the "state of the mind" of poruchik Rzvevsky. There is a gradation in increasing of severity/rudeness of an expression of, e.g., the analogs of "go to hell":  "go to devil" -> "go into arse" -> "go onto хуй" -> "go into pizda". (By the way only people with modern sick (I's day, Russophobic :-) mind interpret expressions "go into arse", "go onto хуй" as something belonging only to certain you known which ethnic or social groups. I strongly object this deprivation of Russian people of their true iskonny heritage ispokon vekov). One has to understand that the word "zhopa" is kind of "inherently funny word". (If one needs a rude equivalent, you use the word "sraka", which is even more ugly than 'pizda') You have to really understand the Hussar state of the mind in the discussed joke, at the moment when they were ordered to shut up. Think about it: the question about an extra candle was a perfect opportunity, but not for an insult (then "pizda" would do), but for a joke! <sigh> What had happened today with deep and exquisite Russian culture used to be? Now people don't even know the difference between 'pizda' and 'zhopa'. Tletvornoe vliyanie Zapada... - Altenmann >t 07:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rzhevsky and mat (mistake, maybe) + mistake in joke description 

message: I work with a 50ish guy who grew up in the sov union
he says proove you are not a camel comes from a skit, where a man needs a piece of paper signed, and the official keeps asking for mroe and more documents, which the man has, finally the official asks for the document prooving the man is not a camel,which the man doesn't ahve  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.195.10.169 (talk) 14:19, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Smth is the same smth, even in Africa" ([Сало] - оно и в Африке [сало]) is popular russian idiom for something regular, ordinary or standard. Rachelier (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately I failed to find any reliable reference about Сало - оно и в Африке сало , which is clearly a well-known expression. At the moment I am removing this joke, since there is another one about salo. - Altenmann >t 06:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: you are not a camel

message: Someone, I haven't bothered to dig up who, left the following in a source comment following the "lean, ringing, and transparent" joke.  It rather belongs here:
:this joke deserves a footnote; actually, a seven-foot-note: each tiny piece from the joke is a holographic reflection of the morose reality of the Soviet era. Unfortunately deciphering it here would be original research. However I cannot help comment on being "lazy, gluttony, and deceiving". It reflects two very different pieces of reality. From  one hand, the negative depiction of gulag inmates was typical of leftist Western authors who insisted that Soviet political prisoners deserved their fate. On the opposite hand, what looks like a negative depiction from a "normal" point of view, in fact is the basics from the gulag survival guide ("Gulag Survival 101"): work less, eat what you manage to, and "anything you say may be used against you"
copied over by 4pq1injbok (talk) 22:29, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand this joke at all. What have "lean, ringing, and transparent" got to do with anything? Equinox ◑ 10:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "a seven-foot-note" 

message: This joke is not about rockets, but about Russian language and especially Russian mat. 
As Russian mother-language speaker I know that every single Russian word has heavy load of variations, most of which carrys a little or none meaning but are required in ANY word conjunction. Here is some examples: a word Keyboard (клавиатура) belongs to "female-gender" branch of rules and together with "male gender" plurals in these to branches are encoded by letter -Ы аt the very end (after suffixes); but Programming word (программирование) has "middle gender" branch of rules, therefore plural form is transmitted with -Я ending which more often is using with "female" words. That "middle gender" is not agender because using some usual words about somebody "incorrectly" in middle gender is a common way for hate speech on that special somebody. But mat words unleash a world of simpler ways for calling any things and movements and feelings and, of cource, name-callings, with respect to gender (male or female) or not (middle). Words khuyevina, pizd'ulina, and a poyeben' are all female (like most of the technical stuff), that's why these three are common in technical stuff (only when women are out of hearing). A khuievina, like any instance of Hui, must be something bulb, like rocket or anything else. A pizdulina must be something you can grab, maybe something costy or just with hole, as instance of Pizda. Poyeben is something you do not understand, since middle gender means disrespect, any well-known thing or good learned stuff can not continue being poeben any more. So, khuievina and pizdulina, are not interchangable but compatible, and both of them may or may not be a part of poeben which is singular. Any rocket and any its part may be a khuievina and/or a pizdulina as well as being poeben.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.169.93.227 (talk) 08:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  seemed to consist of khuyevina, pizd'ulina, and a poyeben' connecting them together, with all three parts being completely interchangeable 

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message: I sugges to remove this phrase because it is offensive to the writer.--Reciprocist (talk) 20:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sholem Aleichem, a famous Rabinovich 

message: The "work robes" mentioned here, as part of a joke, sounds very awkward and strange in English. I think it should be "coveralls" or "overalls" instead of "work robes". However, I don't know Russian humour, so I'm leaving it alone in case the awkwardness is part of the joke. TooManyFingers (talk) 23:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed as unreferenced. I did hear it in several variants but didnt read. - Altenmann >talk 02:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Work robes"?