Talk:Project Cybersyn

message: Government by algorithm is an alternative form of government or social ordering where the usage of computer algorithms, especially of artificial intelligence and blockchain, is applied to regulations, law enforcement, and generally any aspect of everyday life such as transportation or land registration. The term "government by algorithm" appeared in academic literature as an alternative for "algorithmic governance" in 2013.
Project Cybersyn was a Chilean project from 1971 to 1973 during the presidency of Salvador Allende aimed at constructing a distributed decision support system to aid in the management of the national economy.
I do not feel that It makes sense to file Cybersyn under the category of Algocracy, not only is it anarchonistic, it implies that Cybersyn was to be used to control all aspects of governance and not just economic planning. Algocracy uses a lot of modern terminology and digital concepts, while Cybersyn was based on marxist principles of economic planning. Chile was still a liberal democracy at the time of Allende's presidency so it could not fit under the idea that the government would be controlled by algorithims, unless there is a case being made that the government is the economy/vice versa. I am proposing simply removing it from the Algocracy series to prevent any confusion on the definition and purpose of the scopr of Algocracy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4041:3DE:5800:89F0:9E43:804F:EB0 (talk) 08:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Algocracy? 

message: The link to the picture of the operations room, hosted at MIT, does not work.
:It's a homepage of Eden Miller at MIT. Hope it will become operational again. Samohyl Jan 20:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link 

message: There is a Spanish page :es:Cybersyn, some of it might be useful for this article. There is a bad partial translation below. - Francis Tyers · 19:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/world/americas/28cybersyn.html
This New York Times' piece has additional information that I think should be included in the main article.Ulises (talk) 15:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New York Times article

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message: The varnelis.net source (note 4 as of this writing) is just someone's blog. It has no citations. Also, it says some pretty incredible stuff about Cybersyn that it offers no source for, for instance,
"Even as it consumed massive amounts of the Chilean economy, Cybersyn initially appeared to be successful when, during October 1972, conservative small businessmen went on strike. Some 50,000 truck drivers blocked the streets of Santiago, but through Cybersyn the government was able to identify 200 trucks that remained loyal and coordinate food deliveries to the areas of the city that needed it most."
98.180.13.147 (talk) 06:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, maybe the Spanish version and New York times article may have relevant information.  Or even better one of the books on the subject. Jonpatterns (talk) 10:37, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think the varnelis.net source is not a good one 

message: There's no mention of Cyberfolk in this article. Since it's arguably the earliest known attempt at E-democracy, I think it's important enough to be translated from the Spanish article and added here.
125.71.229.77 (talk) 12:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyberfolk 

message: There was a documentary released in 2013 which deals with Cybersyn and how it fits into the history of cybernetics. - 73.152.14.228 (talk) 19:59, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Documentary 

message: might this project, and fears FROM it,
have constributed to some of the concepts / para-concept creations, in the movie?
[ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071615/?ref_=nv_sr_1 ]
"the holy mountain" , by 
Robert Taicher	...	executive producer
Alejandro Jodorowsky	...	producer (uncredited)
Allen Klein	...	executive producer (uncredited)
Roberto Viskin	...	producer (uncredited)
be warned, this is a quite disturbing movie, if you aren't used to both some of the darker sides of humanity, AND, shock-effect exposure, -of.
perhaps a external link / "uses in popular culture" , could have a special/possible mention?
REW
Vurrath (talk) 17:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  possible contributive effect on the making of this?