Talk:Maus

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
* 
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 19:22, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: pages not moved to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below.  Dekimasuよ! 10:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: WikiProject Germany has been notified of this discussion. Schierbecker (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Graphic novels has been notified of this discussion. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:03, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Jewish history has been notified of this discussion. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 01:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: 1 in 40 people clicking through to the dab page is astronomical considering most readers don't have the patience to read dab pages. Schierbecker (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't know that 1/40 are clicking through to disambiguation, as it's not the only way to reach the disambiguation page. We only know that it's less than 1/40, not how much less. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: With an organic interest of 42k incoming views per month for the novel, it's really impossible for any hatnote traffic comparison to look good, but that doesn't necessarily have to imply that the titles wouldn't work well the other way around. We know from experience that when we move even popular articles, their traffic largely moves along nicely with them. The real question should be - would showing ambiguity in a different way when someone just types in "Maus" in the search box be beneficial, would it astonish anyone, would it risk leading any readers astray etc. --Joy (talk) 08:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: *If the graphic novel did not exist, Panzer VIII Maus would probably be called Maus. I've rarely heard it called "Panzer VIII Maus" in literature. "Panzer VIII" serves as natural disambiguation. Also it's not necessary for a title to match completely for it to be considered ambiguous. Schierbecker (talk) 23:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

text: *:Other works seem fine using the fuller name for their page on this, and I doubt the Tank Encyclopedia or The Warfare History Network, for example, is worried about having a separate name for the graphic novel. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: *Tank Encyclopedia is user generated. Warfarehistorynetwork doesn't seem particularly reliable. Richard Ogorkiewicz calls it the Maus, so does George Forty Armor magazine, the official magazine of the U.S Army. "Maus" is a perfectly acceptable way to name the tank at first mention. Panzer VIII Maus does not merely just contain the word Maus. Schierbecker (talk) 05:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: *:On the contrary, I'm certain that if the graphic novel did not exist, the tank article would still be called Panzer VIII Maus and the nickname "Maus" would redirect to it, as would Panzer VIII (which, to no-one's astonishment, is exactly what does happen). --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 01:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: * There is only one topic whose proper name is Maus. There are thousands of cases on wikipedia of articles whose names happen to contain the name of another article somewhere in the string. Do we really want to open this floodgate? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 01:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: *:I don't think we're doing that, because that's already regulated by WP:PTM. We're only considering topics where there's actual ambiguity. --Joy (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose per JMF and various others. Generalissima (talk) 01:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 11 February 2024