Talk:Yorkshire Three Peaks

message: Is there a consensus on which way round the three peaks challenge is done? I did it clockwise, but most of the articles say anti-clockwise is more normal? Grinner 11:40, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, I was coming to suspect that. I wonder why I did it the other way? ;-). I'll update the pages to include this info. Grinner 10:37, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The walk

message: Three Peaks goes nowhere.  Since this suggests no other place or thing has a claim on the term, should it redirect here?  It's what I tried typing in first, and when it came up blank, I went to Whernside instead; it wouldnt have occured to me to try "Yorkshire three peaks", that's not a common term for them in my experience.
:It now goes to a disambiguation page. — ras52 22:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for loosing the text, looks like it got lost when I updated the project template. Keith D 12:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Not really valid in this talk page is it, Mac.trig? - Ncikjohnston (talk) 08:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

text: As you might expect, I disagree, this is a 'discussion' page and I feel it important to point out that in, certainly northern England, for a long time 'The 3 Peaks' solely meant the Yorkshire peaks. The annual (Yorkshire) 3 Peaks Race race was first established in 1954 and the challenge was established well before that (in 2008 it was the choice for the World Mountain Running Challenge Race). It has only been since the common ownership of the motor car and several road improvements (including the M6 section) - well after the (Yorkshire) 3 Peaks had been established - for the possibility of the 'average' punter to be able to even consider the 'National 3 Peaks'. That it's popularity (or reknown) has risen to outstrip the {Yorkshire} 3 Peaks might nowadays be fact but doesn't displace the originators claim. I might accept that some further comments may be considered personal but if you visit the National Three Peaks entry you will see my comments equally reflected in that article. Mac.trig 20:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but what point are you trying to make?  If it is simply that you dislike the ethos of the National Three Peaks Challenge, then, yes, I agree with you.  But it still isn't really an appropriate topic for discoussion on this talk page.  — ras52 (talk) 21:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Not quite sure why you feel the need to apologise. Yes I dislike the ethos of the (National} 3 Peaks Challenge, but my point is that, historically, to a certain area within England the 3 Peaks Challenge represented one thing and that in recent years that has changed to mean another. The 'National 3 Peaks' & 'Yorkshire 3 Peaks' are really terms created simply for wikipedia - for the vast majority of people who embark on either challenge the '3 Peaks' will be simply 'The 3 Peaks'. My 2007 comments are perhaps somewhat vitriolic, but they only concur with the main entry in the 'National' section of wikipedia.comment added by Mac.trig 22:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Three Peaks

message: Have gone ahead and removed all external links, as none contributed much. No free advertising. Please re-add sparingly. - Ncikjohnston (talk) 08:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: "The Novices Guide to The Yorkshire 3 Peaks by Brian Smailes Challenge Publications " - this looks like a vanity contribution to me. There may be scope for including it as a reference, but not in the main body. Any thoughts? --Langcliffe (talk) 13:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A very brief search of Amazon fails to find any other books about the Three Peaks, so I'm inclined to believe the assertion that this is the only one on the subject.  If that's the case, I don't think it's unreasonable to mention it.  That said, it is very clearly a conflict of interest for the author to add it himself, and he should be advised not to add similar items himself — rather to bring them to the talk page for discussion first.  However in this particular case, I don't personally feel it would be productive to revert him.  — ras52 (talk) 15:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty of books that provide the route for the Three Peaks Walk, including Wainwright's Limestone Country, and there seems to be a few dedicated to the walk . But PamD has now moved the reference into a Further Reading section, which I think is probably the best solution. --Langcliffe (talk) 07:12, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Ras52 & Landcliffe are quite correct, there are several commercial guides to the Three Peaks Walk available and there are plenty of free ones on the internet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac.hawk (talk • contribs) 21:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vanity Posting