Category talk:Eastern Catholic saints

message: I think I'm confused. I thought the Church only had one list of Saints, and that everyone goes through the same process. Is this simply a list of eastern Catholics who've been canonized through the congregation for the causes of saints, or is there a different process for the canonization for people of the eastern Churches? Gentgeen 18:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer to your question is that you are correct and incorrect as far as I know.  It is true that there is only one canonization process at present time.  However, before the modern canonization process it was done locally. Because of that many early saints have cults which are virtually non-existant in the West and as such could be classified as Eastern Catholic Saints.  It is also the case that many eastern Catholic saints that would have been canonized may not have siginficant cults in the West and vise versa. Personally I agree with you and think the two lists ought to be combined.Commment (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is only one canonisation process that is regularly used at present - that of Rome. In theory, all the Eastern Catholic Churches retain the power to declare a person a saint, though for reasons of convenience and prestige it's far easier to send the cases for Rome to do it. In theory, a person is canonised through his church. Nevertheless, the reason for the separate list is that there are cases where someone is a saint of the Orthodox Churches, which also means he is automatically a saint of the corresponding Eastern Catholic Churches, but is NOT venerated in the Roman/Western Church. Two examples : 1) St Photius the Great, Patriarch of Constantinople. 2) St Gregory Palamas. These two are in the offical Greek and Slavonic (Recensio Vulgata) liturgical books published in Rome and are therefore undeniably Eastern Catholic saints, but are still considered heretics by a large portion of the Roman Church. The list is therefore a list of saints venerated in the Eastern Catholic Churches, who may or may not be venerated in the Western Church as well. In the case of those who aren't, it prevents people from saying 'this person isn't in any of the Roman Catholic books published in Rome' and therefore objecting to his inclusion in the category of 'Roman Catholic Saints'.  InfernoXV (talk) 14:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Difference between Eastern and Western Catholic Saints?

message: As far ans I know the Russian Royal family were Orthodox Christians and as such would never likely be canonized in the Catholic Church.  They are also not even listed as being venerated in Eastern Catholic Churches on thier specific Articles.  Because of this I think they ought ot be removed. But I don't know how to do that.  If anyone disagrees I'd like to see some eveidence to the contrary. Commment (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, the situation is thus - except in cases where the subject in question was specifically anti-Catholic during his lifetime, a canonised Orthodox saint of any Orthodox Church is also venerated as a saint in the corresponding Eastern Catholic Church. Russian Greek-Catholics venerate all the saints that are venerated in the Russian Orthodox tradition, including the Royal Martyrs and the New Martyrs of the Communist Yoke. InfernoXV (talk) 14:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Russian Royal Family