Talk:A Fistful of Dollars

message: These two are getting a bit desperate as a reference for this film arent they? so other films have gunfights in them...
Back to the Future trilogy: In Back to the Future Part II, a short scene is seen where Joe survives a gunfight which forshadows the scene in Back to the Future Part III where Marty does the same thing (in the same costume). 
:Should this refer to him as Joe? yEvb0 16:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  No. --193.11.177.69 05:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not familiar with the Star Trek reference, but the Back To The Future scene is definitely a Dollars reference - Marty protects himself with a metal plate during a gunfight, just like the man with no name did at the end of Dollars. Rhobite 15:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: During the gunfight near the end of that TNG episode, Worf uses a makeshift forcefield to protect himself from the bullets of a villainous, holographic version of Data. 70.172.212.3 19:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Surprised no one has listed the scene in Groundhog Day when Bill Murray shows up for a movie screening wearing the outfit. Only thing, I can't remember if he is actually seeing the film. I know he says "I told you - I love this movie" or some such, but I can't recall if you can see the marque.  RoyBatty42 10:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Groundhog Day

message: The picture showing Gian Maria Volontè is not from "Fistful of Dollars" but from "For a Few Dollars More". In that movie he plays a character called "Indio". Shouldn't it be changed? Another picture or something like that? 213.101.239.203 18:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: Why does somebody always include empty titles like "Pacing", "Characters" and "Music" without writing anything about these subjects? Of course these are important issues, but you'll also have to include some information, not just the titles. 83.181.74.236 12:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Empty Titles

message: I know that IMDb says that Gian Maria Volontè is credited as "John Wells" in A Fistful of Dollars. However, this is not exactly true. My source are the opening credits of the movie itself. I think everybody agrees that this is the best source. In the External Links-section there is a link for the opening credits and the title theme of the movie on YouTube. There you can see for yourself that Volontè is actually credited as "Johnny Wels", not "John Wells".Dutzi (talk) 12:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Wels vs. John Wells 

message: Wouldn't the episode name 'a fistful of energon' and the whole episode itself since it is about bounty hunters be based off this? Mew Mitsuki (talk) 23:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transformers animated 

message: What on earth is meant by this? I cannot fathom it. Google has failed to produce any usages of the term in relation to film... or really to anything other than the abdomen. forkbomb! (talk) 09:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Distension"? 

message: There's no indication in the article about what happens to the gold. It says Eastwood's character (The Man With No Name AKA TMwNN) is searching for the gold when he is interrupted by Marisol. That's the last time the gold is mentioned in the article. Are you purposefully leaving out that plot element? I haven't seen it in a long time. Ileanadu (talk) 20:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Gold 

message: I. In the "Country" section of the box, next to the word "Spain" appears a reference; that is currently footnote 3. Footnote 3 says:
:"PER UN PUGNO DI DOLLARI (1964)". BFI Film & TV Database. London: British Film Institute. Retrieved February 19, 2013.
This is really the original title, and is in Italian. The title in the Spanish speaking countries is:
:Por un puñado de dólares
:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ql_9#akas
II. What is the basis for including these particular 3 countries (Italy, West Germany & Spain) in the Country section?
The film has been release in more than two dozen countries. If it's supposed to be the countries where the film was released, why pick these 3 out of all of those countries. The first 3 countries where the film was released are listed as Italy, West Germany, and Argentina. The film was not released in Spain for another three months. So if you want just the first three, probably Argentina should replace Spain.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/releaseinfo?ref_=ttrel_ql_2
 
On the other hand, is Spain included because that was a filming location, along with Italy? If so, why is West Germany included in the list of countries? There appears to be no evidence of a filming connection with West Germany.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/locations?ref_=ttrel_ql_6
Ileanadu (talk) 21:09, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Spain, Italy and West Germany are chosen to represent the release because they were the initial countries that funded the production. By 1964, "...Leone had convinced Jolly Film (Italy), Constantin Film (West Germany) and Ocean Film (Spain)..." to fund the film for a total of $200,000. Also, as another example of this production heirarchy, within the credits German actors 'Wolfgang Lukschy', 'Sieghardt Rupp' and 'Josef Egger' are all higher in the credits, despite the fact that their roles may not be as essential as that of the Spaniard 'Pepe Calvo' who plays the Innkeeper, Silvanito, because of the West German funders demands. MrMenethil (talk) 13:39, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote reference number 3 & Country section 

message: [IGNORE THIS SECTION - I JUST SAW THE EARLIER SECTION AND HAVE INCORPORATED THIS THERE] Couldn't figure out a way to just delete the section.
The Article for "For a Few Dollars More" has a "References" section, that lists just one or two references. Whereas, A Fistful of Dollars has a plethora of cultural references. See these for example http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/movieconnections#referenced_in
Obviously all of these can't be listed, but perhaps some of the more prominent ones can be. Ileanadu (talk) 21:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: 1. The two 'Critical responses' chosen to represent the films immediate reviews are both negative - the difference being that Crowther treats it as a joke, French as an insult - despite statements that show Crowther's to be otherwise. Unfortunately they aren't representative of a large response to the film, but a minor negative response. Perhaps it'd be good to include retrospective articles summarising 'A Fistful...', or to include a more wholesome critical response to the film that represents its importance towards the Western itself?
::2. Alongside this, although not particularly academic, a brief way of summarising its potential contemporary importance would be to include statistics from Rotten Tomatoes (98% Fresh from 'critics')/IMDb/Metacritic.
:::3. Academic & scholarly responses (see Christopher Wagstaff/Thomas Elsaesser/Howard Hughes).   — Preceding [[Wikipedia:--MrMenethil (talk) 23:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical Response 

message: Hi everyone! I think this page has a lot of good information, but most of it is organised in two huge, hard-to-approach blocks of text (the plot section and the production section). I'm planning to break down the production section with subheadings to make it an easier read, and am also considering to condense the plot summary. I feel that someone going to this page for information of the film would probably prefer a quicker overview of the film's plot, that isn't so detailed and full of quotes. Quotes are great, but this plot summary probably isn't the best place for so many of them.
These two things seem most important to lok int right away when it comes to this page's structure, and I think these changes can do a lot to make the article more approachable. I might look into the way the introduction is laid out and how it leads into the rest of the article. --Semings (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I just updated the structure of the page! I split the production segment up into development, visual style, soundtrack and legal dispute. Please do let me know if you disagree with this structuring. --Semings (talk) 13:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: Hi! I've just been going over the page and I'm thinking of fact checking some things that are a little ambiguous. For example, while much of the referencing looks quite good, there are some sources cited that don't specify much more than the name of the author, specifically those citing 'Hughes' and 'Munn'. I'm thinking that someone wanting to check the validity of these sources might have a hard time, especially with no other information or links to actual texts to verify them. I'm thinking of trying to find these sources and make the references more complete, while also fact checking the page against the cited texts if I manage to find them. Drojasbrackett (talk) 23:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey there, the citation of Hughes is from 'Howard Hughes Book: 'Aim for the Heart: Films of Clint Eastwood' - In the Chapter: 'The Westerns' - 3rd page. Hope this helps you out! I'm not sure where the Munn citation is from unfortunately.. 
Here's the link:  http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=_LLzAgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT17&dq=howard+hughes+aim+for+the+heart&ots=S-o_bNOy31&sig=O6UAT1jfaSrd0YA4gCioK3hzsIg#v=onepage&q=howard%20hughes%20aim%20for%20the%20heart&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMenethil (talk • contribs) 23:43, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi, just realised that the books are actually listed under bibliography so my mistake there. However I do think that it might be worth altering the headings to coincide with the guidelines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Avoiding_clutter . I think that this would make the page more uniform with the referencing style of other Wikipedia articles, Fight Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Club for example . This will hopefully go some way towards organising those sections as they seem a little jumbled in places. Drojasbrackett (talk) 21:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation & Referencing 

message: I have been inspecting this side bar for a couple reasons: 
A - The countries listed do seem a little controversial whether it is country of release (in numerological order) or country of production which if you look onto a few other Wikipedia from other languages it does seem to be of production, not release. It seems this has been discussed also. I suggest it should not oppose the same articles that are in other languages but mirror it instead; Country of Production (Paese di produzione) Granted this is only a minute similarity as some don't have the countries listed at all. 
B - Acknowledging Ryuzo kikushima in relation to what A Fistful of Dollars is based on seems a little uninformative other than being 'uncredited'. He co-wrote the screenplay for Yojimbo and is usually acknowledged as a producer. Basically should this section include some sort of reference to his status in relation rather than having his name there without a hyper link to his page which also needs work. Otherwise he's just a name with nothing to justify it. 
Thanks in advance! Mrlmorley (talk) 13:53, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side Bar Information  

message: Can we (if available to editors) incorporate time codes for dialogue referenced? Some dialogue is to back up certain plot explanations, however if someone needed/ wanted to check this they would have to search through the film or search the sentence on a script page rather than knowing straight off from this page where to look. What do you all think? Might be helpful? 
Mrlmorley (talk) 12:48, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hello Mrlmorley. It's usually not a great idea to use time codes for referencing dialogue, since different versions of the film on different media will have minor variations in time codes. Trying to pin down dialogue by time code alone probably won't give you an accurate reference (unlike, say, a page number in a specific edition of a book). Citing the dialogue should be fine - though you might also want to think about other issues of film terminology where appropriate. Hope that helps! DrJennyCee (talk) 11:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks User:DrJennyCee! Response greatly appreciated, I was thinking this would be difficult but wanted to check if it's worth while or helpful enough. Won't be adding any time codes! Mrlmorley (talk) 13:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Codes for referenced dialogue 

message: I've noticed that the following website:
http://callingtoncave.weebly.com/festival-special.html
Has the same paragraph as this article. However, I cannot figure out who acquired this set of information first. The article or this website, unfortunately without knowing which was published first I feel it may not be something to change here as there are footnotes available for evidence. 
I shall be splitting up this section (Finished) and changing the text slightly.Mrlmorley (talk) 13:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yojimbo legal dispute 

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message: Please do not change the name of the infobox to those in the films credits. Nobody is referring to Sergio Leone as Bob Robertson anymore and it's not helpful for readers to see an alias that is out of date and out of context for the average reader. Stick to what helps readers understand who directed the film with their most common and current names.Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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