Talk:Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America - Peoples’ Trade Treaty

message: The ALBA it's a iniciative from Venezuelan goverment, and it's name make it clear: Bolivarian Alternative, from Bolivar, homeland heroe from the venezuelan independence. It have anything to do with the cuban goverment.
:: I beg to differ. It doesn't really make sense because Puerto Rico cannot join the ALBA in any way. It will be like saying that the Bronx is going to join the ALBA because of Chavez's generosity providing subsidized heating fuel. Bakersville 18:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WTF?! The ALBA is in the cuban portal??!

message: I am wondering about the wisdom of taking out the reference to Puerto Rico. It may be true that this country is not allowed to sign international treaties, but does that make that part of the article inaccurate? It talked about "Proposals have been made to the Government of Puerto Rico through radio, to join in a way or another the ALBA". I think the question is: is this an accurate statement? Not whether the Government of Puerto Rico has the constitutional right to do it or try and find some way around their constitutional bind. - Dave Smith 17:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I beg to differ. It doesn't really make sense because Puerto Rico cannot join the ALBA in any way. It will be like saying that the Bronx is going to join the ALBA because of Chavez's generosity providing subsidized heating fuel. Bakersville 18:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Puerto Rico

message: The section about Ecuador needs updating now that Correa is the President of Ecuador. 84.12.87.164 14:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rafael Correa 

message: This section is completely unref'd. its also POV but the POV issues are difficult to address until we have a source for where this came from. Please help. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Guiding principles section

message: The article lacks any discussion of opposition to ALBA by citizens of the member nations. Such a section would be consistent with other wikipedia articles on similar organizations such as CAFTA. Examples of citations that could be drawn from - http://www.petroleumworld.com/sati08011201.htm, http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE55T06X20090630 ... 
"In another rebuff to Chávez, Correa started to back down from his previously enthusiastic statements in support of ALBA. Speaking to the Associated Press, the Ecuadoran President said that the initiative was “ambiguous” and that he didn't “even understand it.” 
When Chávez called on ALBA member nations to begin preparations for a joint Defense Council to counter Washington’s military influence, Ecuador categorically rejected the proposal. If that was not enough, the Ecuadoran Ministry of Foreign Relations, Commerce and Integration said Ecuador would not participate in Chávez’s initiative even though it considered ALBA’s overall objectives to be “valuable.” - http://www.counterpunch.org/kozloff07232008.html 
"Political alliances like Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega’s coziness with Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez tend to eclipse any semblance of a unified bloc in Central America, said Constantino Urcuyo, of the Center of Political and Administrative Research, a San Jose think tank. The region’s division was recently evidenced when Nicaragua walked out of the drawn-out Central America-EU trade association talks. Costa Rica’s role this weekend, according to Urcuyo, was to stand behind what he described as the “progressive democratic left” — nations like Brazil, Chile and Uruguay — to pose a counterweight to outspoken leaders like Ortega, Chávez and members of a further left leaning — and U.S.-bashing — trade bloc known as the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA)." http://www.globalpost.com/notebook/costa-rica/090419/costa-ricas-arias-wowed-us-president-who-actually-listens
7o62x39 (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of criticism/opposition to ALBA  

message: The lead translates the name of ALBA as Bolivarian Alliance for the People of Our America, but on a linguistic level (pueblos) and a factual level (The Caribbean population is mainly of African descent instead of Native American descent) the People should be Peoples instead-- any opinion?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 16:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: certainly - it should be peoples. Rd232 talk 17:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I checked the ALBA website and found no documents for "Alliance", but documents using the former "Alternative" use "peoples" . However, sources from the Venezuelan gov like ABN and VIO have used "people", so I think the best choice is "peoples" for the title and a redir with "people". JRSP (talk) 17:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The correct name is: Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America and according to the spanish version of this article included "Treaty of Commerce of the People"--GunSa   (say something) 16:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Name 

message: This link states that Haiti, Iran, Uruguay and Ecuador are observers. Of course, this is from November 2008, before the latest group of countries joined (Ecuador, etc), but the article could be updated to reflect this information. Additionally, if one looks at :Commons:Category:ALBA there is a file that another editor may like to include in the article if they see fit to include it. --Russavia Dialogue 09:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Observers to the organisation 

message: ALBA expansion to Africa?
*Article: Chavez seeks 'anti-imperial' Africa front - Published on Friday, September 25, 2009 
CaribDigita (talk) 03:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chavez says he hopes to expand ALBA to Africa. 

message: Honduras has recently withdrawn from the ALBA, so the current ALBA location image should be edited/replaced so it shows the organization's current status. Systemdertoten (talk) 05:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the current status of Honduras? The coup-government and coup-parliament are not accepted by the ALBA-states. Directly after the coup Honduras was suspended. http://www.jungewelt.de/2010/01-14/023.php Even after the withdrawing of the coup-parliament legitimate Honduran government officials met with ALBA representatives. http://www.alternativabolivariana.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5918 Derim Hunt (talk) 02:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Honduras currently is under "Pepe" Lobo's administration, and from what I've been reaserching in various newspapers (I live in Honduras), Honduras can legally withdraw, and apparently has. Please correct me if I am mistaken. I will further look up this topic. Systemdertoten (Please dont talk to me...) 15:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ALBA image should be updated 

message: There's no reference to ALBA on the Haiti page and, if Haiti was going to join ALBA in the summer of 2012, it's overdue.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 03:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haiti