Talk:Entity Framework

message: "It is geared towards solving the mismatch between the formats in which data is stored in a database and in which it is consumed in an object-oriented programming language or other front ends."
I think "formats" is the wrong word.  It goes beyond what most people think of as formatting.  Better would be something like "architecture", or "organizational structure", etc.
Larry Leonard (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Schema? --soum talk 04:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better Word Than "Format" ? 

message: I just got back from TechEd and was talking about this with the guys from MS.  Everyone things their product is doing something new or different so they don't want to fully categorize it as ORM or something else.  But this is exactly what the Entity Framework is.  Just because they make their other services aware of EF doesn't make it different from any other ORM framework.  I.E. you can use Jasper reports in Java against Hibernate.
Anyway I would like the opening paragraph to more clearly define EF, again not marketing jargon but based on what it is, not just it's vision.  --Kibbled bits (talk) 03:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs Better Opening

message: Much of this text is very close to MS' own documentation on the feature and doesn't question their assertions of superiority over the standard means of doing this - a well-designed application will be shielded from change to the logical data model by views and stored procedures in any case, which this does not at all mention. Eftpotrm (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reads as advert

message: I am not the most advanced programmer out there, but I choose to use Microsoft Access, Visual Basic scripting, ASP, and ADO on a regular basis and am attempting to learn ASP.NET and ADO.NET. I cannot make any sense out this article. It is just chock full of jargon that I cannot follow. For reference, I cannot follow most of Microsoft's documentation either, instead relying on other people's interpretations and simplifications.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.9.250 (talk) 13:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Terrible

message: Claiming that EF is "far superior than NHibernate," which, by the way should read "far superior to NHibernate," is just obscene. Not only is there no proof, I'm not even sure there is a way to prove such an assumption. Flag time?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.44.164 (talk) 19:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: How Is This Neutral?

message: "It differs from SQL in that it does not have explicit constructs for joins because the EDM is designed to abstract partitioning data across tables"
Huh? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb387167.aspx Would seem to imply otherwise... and frankly if you could not join tables that are not explicity related by some foreign key (but there's an implicit relationship, say zipcodes) through linq to entities or Enities SQL, you'd probably use a different ORM. 71.154.18.245 (talk) 14:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entity SQL lacks joins? 

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thread_title: Unused footnotes

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*Abstain for the time being. (May change in due course.) Your Google Book sources actually refer to them as "ADO.NET Entity Framework" and use "Entity Framework" alone when they are short of space. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Well, of course the whole thing is probably copied in bulk from MS sources, but the overview is some of the worst since it doesn't really give you an overview but merely touts the greatness of EF.
Could someone (more knowledgeable than I) rewrite the overview in a rather more neutral and scholarly form to summarize the features, advantages, and disadvantages of EF?drh (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The overview is an advertisement 

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