Talk:Boy soprano

message: Boy Soprano. My grandson is interested in singing. What age would tuition normally start, Liam O'Leary, olearyls@eircom.net.
* The above unsigned comment was added by 194.125.161.16 in December 2004.
As the article (now) says, training often begins around 7 or 8 years of age. I joined the Chapel Choir at Newington College, a Uniting Church school around age 10. ralmin 02:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: Wikipedia currently lacks an article on boys' choirs - whch are NOT (as this article points out!) the same as the boy sopranos (and boy altos, not to mention - in many cases - the newly minted tenors and basses) who sing in them. Since my son joined the Zürich Sängerknaben I've been fascinated with this tradition and its history, and I'll try to put something together - if only a stub. It's high time Wikipedia had something!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.162.103.253 (talk) 07:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you should look here first. —Wahoofive (talk) 16:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boys' Choirs 

message: Regarding
:Occasionally boys whose voices have changed can continue to sing in the soprano range for a period of time.
In fact all boys can continue to sing in their upper range their entire lives, a technique called falsetto. While few men cultivate the skill, at least in America, it's rare for it to be impossible. True, a falsettist's top range is not as high as a boy soprano, but this sentence is woefully inadequate. —Wahoofive (talk) 04:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: this is an interesting one. I was a boy soprano and could sing up to E6 and go down to B3. I was one of those people who's voices broke in a week and i had a wobbly voice. I could for a month or so throw my voice into my childhood register and sing soprano but it was cut down by about a fifth. Then when i was unable to do that I was left with a Bass/bass-baritone voice with my highest note being A4. It seems i have the lower half of my childhood range as my 'falsetto'. This is only anecdotal, i know, but from what i remember of the tone changes that occurred over my childhood voice, i find my head voice starts to kick in around that A/B3 area.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.89.230 (talk) 11:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Falsetto 

message: Excuse me, the term "Boy Soprano" does not exist. It is slang for the correct word: Treble.
You say treble is british english, I'm afraid to say that the terms boy and soprano contradict each other anyway. A soprano is and remains to be a female singer with a high range. "Soprano" does not mean "range". This is why I'm changing the title of this article to treble.--Brainsurgeonrocketscientist 05:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I love Wikipedia. Every time I get depressed I can come on and get a laugh out a comment like that. —Wahoofive (talk) 15:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treble/Boy soprano 

message: I wonder if anyone knows of Paul Chapman, who performed a treble solo on Michael Nyman's "Miserere", which was composed for the soundtrack to the film entitled "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover". Would it be appropriate to mention him in this article at all? Oberschlesien 14:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Paul Chapman

message: It may be worthwhile, perhaps on a new related page, to discuss cathdral choristers and some of the traditions and roles, such as auditions, years of service, religious duties, ranks such as Head Boy (Head Chorister), choristers of the year, etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.80.10 (talk) 21:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cathedral Choristers 

message: I notice there is no page for a "boy alto" although such a voice type is referred to in various works, sch as Menotti's Chip and His Dog, an opera intended to be played by children.  Is the definition of such a voice even more nebulous?--19:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: boy alto

message: This article would be much improved by the addition of some photographs.Das Baz 16:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Photographs

message: someone might want to take a look at this claim. most christian liturgy dates from the christian era, don't sure how much christian liturgy is known to be pre-christian...70.26.6.134 (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  trebles singing christian liturgy in pre-christian times 

message: I am very near tempted to remove the sentence: "The fact that boys are no longer trained to sing in the head voice is a significant factor in the demise of the older boy soprano."  This is, in fact, not sourced from any document, and I personally train my boys to sing in their upper registers well into the age of 15-16.  This sentence doesn't help the article. 
Secondly, if this article is going to be linked with the WikiProject-Opera, I believe all content relating to Trebles and liturgical functions should be removed and a second more liturgically friendly page about Trebles created.   I'm happy to create the page, but I wanted to check on discussion first.  I've left the article intact, but sources are readily available for citing.   Perhaps also, elements from Choirboy should also be combined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoonboy (talk • contribs) 01:07, 17 December 2014‎
:I suggest the oppoite: any aspects of boy soprano or trebles lacking in this articles should be added here; a banner on an article's talk page doesn't confer exclusivity. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 23:03, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I read the previous discussion under the project-opera talk page and can more or less agree about the banner.  I'll see if I can add some information to this page. I am now aware that Treble redirects here, I believe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoonboy (talk • contribs) 00:06, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Editing, cleanup and thoughts 

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message: *I read somewhere that some of Bach's motets cannot be sung nowadays as Bach intended, because their music is so complicated that nowadays by the time that a choirboy is intelligent enough to understand the music, his voice has broken. Is there a reference to this? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:55, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: What Bach "intended" is a matter of substantial dispute, but if you mean it can't be sung today with boys on the top part, a little Googling would easily dispel that idea. —Wahoofive (talk) 20:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bach's motets