Talk:Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor

message: When you hover your mouse over hyperlinked text in an article, it normally shows a picture of that thing (from the article that you will be taken to when you click on it). If you do it for Charles V, it shows a picture of his signature. I don't know how this works, but is there a way of identifying the "primary picture" for an article so that it will appear in the future? I think we can all agree that it should be the main picture at the top of the article that is shown? Nate Hooper (talk) 06:35, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  problem with the picture 

message: In the titles section, it says that Charles was King of Hungary and Croatia. This is not true as far as I know.Unlimitedlead (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not found a source talking about this yet. But it was likely one of the titles he claimed/used in the early phase of his reign, before Ferdinand gained it. After Maximilian I's invasion of the region in the 1490s, there was a treaty between the Habsburgs and the Jagiellons, that allowed Vladislaus II to actually rule as King, but Maximilian could use that title too - later he functioned more and more as kind of an "overlord" to the rulers there. Charles would have inherited the situation in 1519. Deamonpen (talk) 01:36, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks for looking into that. Unlimitedlead (talk) 11:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Even after Ferdinand assumed the title (1526-7), Charles V continued to use it and retained this "overlord" claim. He did the same with the Austrian territories (when he invested Ferdinand with them in 1521-2) and with the title of King of Germany (after Ferdinand assumed it in 1531). For example, if you read the testament of 1554, you'll see that Charles V styles himself as "Archduke of Austria", "king of Germany", and "king of Hungary, Dalmatia, and Croatia".Barjimoa (talk) 08:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titles 

message: Did Charles v lead the sack of Rome? Which pope was in power during the sack of Rome? Leo c or clement vii? 173.75.251.128 (talk) 12:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean the Sack of Rome (1527)? The pope was Pope Clement VII. He was imprisoned by Charles V, and later had to ally himself with his jailer. Dimadick (talk) 17:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sack of Rome 

message: That article seems to be basically redundant with this one. I think the Empire of Charles V article is actually better structured - it gives an overview of Charles's life and travels in a way that this article really doesn't. But I think there's stuff covered in this article and not there. I'd suggest some sort of merge if anyone has time to actually edit these two texts together. john k (talk) 05:32, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it clearly is a WP:FORK, despite the creator's protests (on talk there).  That was an odd thing to do in 2019 frankly. But this is already too long at 199 K raw bytes, and that is a further 100 K.  There certainly is "stuff covered in this article and not there", and "there" is rather short on refs, though it seems well-informed. The refs are also very unclearly stated; I suspect quite a lot are pretty old, though dates are not given. We might rename that Reign of Charles V, bring some early life stuff over here, if it is better, and shorten some of the politico-military aspects of the reign here.  Johnbod (talk) 14:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Some older sources, but also some very recent ones, like Parker's biography, only a few years old (cited a lot in this article, as well). My main problem with this article, going back almost to its first creation, is that it does not provide a chronological overview of Charles's life, but deals with it almost entirely topically. john k (talk) 18:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Empire of Charles V]]