Talk:Caroline, No

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Beach Boys - Caroline No.jpg

message: :Image:Carolineno sheet.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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replies: text: Ha!  You're right on.  I've seen similar atrocities in articles related to Pink Floyd's The Wall.  Anyway, it's been changed, so I'm glad you left the comment for our amusement.  --63.25.118.201 (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is indeed an amusing and simplistic interpretation of 'where did your long hair go?". When listening to Pet Sounds again a week or so ago, I finally (after hearing it first half a century ago, and many times since) realized that at the end, Caroline gets run over by a train. How's that for an interpretation? Wastrel Way (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Carolineno sheet.jpg

message: Freshacconci, there is no reason to revert the edit regarding Eric Carmen.  I'm not sure if you are actually reading the article or just like undoing edits, but it is no different than other points made in the category.  The category lists other covers.  Most popular song articles on Wikipedia have a list of cover versions of songs.  This category even has more "trivial" points, such as the song being mentioned by other artists.  I would also argue that a cover is not trivia, as consensus shows on many popular song articles.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Domanator (talk • contribs) 22:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That the page already has "trivial points" is hardly a justification for more trivia. WP:TRIVIA is pretty clear and adding every insignificant cover violates pretty much the idea that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. And claiming some sort of anti-elitism is hardly assuming good faith. Edit warring is never a good idea. freshacconci talktalk 23:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

text: We don't list every single cover of a given song. Eric Carmen was significant in the 70s but a 2000 album by him is not particularly important. You are being disruptive and edit warring. Stop it. freshacconci talktalk 13:15, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric Carmen Cover

message: The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album was heavily influenced by Pet Sounds.
I think that this song was an inspiration to the Beatles' "Strawberry Fields Forever", which had a coda that, less directly, had a nonverbal section referencing a train.
Also, I think it influenced the Beatles' "Good Morning Good Morning" with the animal sounds.
I don't know the references for this, but I bet they're out there.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnsla (talk • contribs) 18:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beatles Influence 

message: The article currently reads:
While it is commonly understood that Wilson composed the majority of the music on Pet Sounds, it has been claimed that "Caroline, No" was one of three songs in which Asher contributed musical ideas rather than acting solely as a co-lyricist; the other two being "That's Not Me" and "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times".
The source for this is page page 145 of Gaines's Heroes and Villains, which simply states, In a few instances, Asher contributed to the music too, as in "Caroline No", "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" and "That's Not Me".
As an encyclopedia, we should not be using more words than our sources.
→Ben Culture (talk) 06:31, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: On the same page, there are a few paragraphs written after that statement concerning Asher's role as lyricist and Wilson's as composer.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 13:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel wording 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Some of the items in the popular culture section seem quite superfluous and hard to make a serious case for inclusion in the article. One that comes to mind is "Does Caroline Know" by Talk Talk or the "pun" names references. It seems appropriate that covers of the tune be included as well as direct mentions in other media. That approach would be consistent with this type of section in other articles I've read. Some of the items appear to have no real purpose for inclusion other than the mention itself. As I see there has been some contention in the past on this section I have been reluctant to edit some of the items that are currently in the article. I would like to get input from others before proceeding to do some edits. Thoughts? THX1136 (talk) 19:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Did the edits I felt were appropriate since there was no input on this issue. Items did not have a cited source for the connection to the tune itself. THX1136 (talk) 21:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture section