Talk:The Chaser's War on Everything

message: Note to all editors - You don’t need to add every stunt they do. The article is meant to have a general overview, not a list of everything they do. Per this material such as the ongoing list of ad road tests will be removed. If you wish to contribute, please write it in the episode guides. See List of The Chaser's War On Everything episodes. IAmTheCoinMan 09:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I have to question the section this segment should be in. It is going to be in every episode until the election is over but it will only be a short-lived segment obviously, but still, I do not believe occasional segments is the best place for it. Any thoughts? --Lakeyboy 03:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you implying it should be removed or upgraded to "Supporting" segments?  The Windler  talk  08:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Occasional segments, where it's currently located, is the best place for it IMO. — H2O —  08:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

text: This isn't a temporary article, it should be maintained the same. Per WP:DATED, it is suggested to avoid statements that will date quickly. While this has nothing to do with moving a segment, it should imply that moving it there is the same thing. This article covers the enitre "The Chaser's War on Everything", from Episode 1, so moving it to Primary would be biased (??) and untrue when looking at the entire show. Take things into context, if I looked at this page for the first time (after watching every episode) and saw Election Watch in primary segments, I'd quickly revert it.  The Windler  talk  20:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Election Watch

message: ...and should be removed.  Seriously, this is the least notable part of this article, and is covered in a much better fashion at List of The Chaser's War on Everything episodes.  I propose we remove it. — H2O —  08:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with the episode list is that it only describes what happens in each segment, not what the segment is about. Having no references for a section like this in an article is perfectly normal for a television Wikipedia article. It is the same situation in many other television show articles that revolve around different segments. I have to say keep it, otherwise nobody would have any idea what the show is about unless they are fans like us guys here editing this article. --Lakeyboy 12:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  with the removal of the complete segments section, this could become the quickest ever good article delistment. keep it...because it deserves to be there. There is no better way to describe the show in depth. Jasewase 12:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Lakeyboy and Jasewase.  Leave it alone, please.  DEVS EX MACINA pray 12:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't source what is in the show, it's like trying to source the plot of a film, but in my opinion it needs to be re-written, because now without the "Recurring themes" section, you are missing Ads/Trailers and Songs, which (especially the first) make a vital contribution to the show. I wouldn't oppose this section being split into another article, I would be more than happy to summarise it.  The Windler  talk  20:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: who deleted the recurring themes without discussion? please dont sabotage our GA award... the themes have to go back, and for any future major changes, please start a discussion topic to outline the reasons to justify the decision Jasewase 11:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm working on that now in my sandbox, but that won't remove the section.  The Windler  talk  03:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The whole "Segments" section is unsourced... 

message: Who ever chaged all of the controversies so they couldnt be clicked on from the top of the aricle should change them back, so people who might want to read about the apec stunt or something can go straight there, also the same shouls be done with primary, supporting segments and recurring themes, espically recuring themes as they shouldnt be under occasinal segments  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.130.88 (talk) 05:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changing Controversies

message: Please see my new comment on spliting the article above.  The Windler  talk  10:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If no one replies, I presume everybody is happy with the changes. (But when I do change them, then someone will reply, no doubt). Please check my recent comments in the "Split" section above.  The Windler  talk  05:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  split

message: Right. Their war war on the Korean TV, but, actually, only APEC episode aired.
Infact, KBS aired the APEC episode as a part of highlights from public broadcaster around the world.
I can't provide any proper source for now but asking WP:KOREA will be better.--JSH-alive (talk)(cntrbtns)(mail me) 04:09, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaser in South Korea 

message: Saw a preview for an upcoming Chaser story on Today Tonight for the 14th. It's about ambusing Channel Seven studios or similar. Not sure if it's something major or not. None of the news services have reported it. Maybe it's just persuasive techniques going to my head. But anyways, we'll wait and see.
P.S, the election launch campaigns for labor and liberal are causing abit of controv. Craig and 2 others were detained so they couldn't do they stage decorating stunt at the liberal launch. --Lakeyboy 11:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well because of the Channel 7 injunction against the Chaser team, they won't be able to broadcast the actual stunt unless it is lifted by tonight, which isn't likely. So instead, the Chaser team will talk about the incident, and do a mockup of the incident that happened in the channel 7 studios. I don't think it will be too big an issue unless they return fire and sue Today Tonight for assault. -- Permafrost 09:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Today Tonight'' story - 14/11/07

message: Those who watched the show last night would have heard they had finished the 2nd season of the "War on Everything" (to go on to do 2 episodes of The Chaser Decides). Now that means, that UNLESS they officially announce that "War on Everything" will return, then it must presumed that that was the last episode EVER. So until they announce such a series or return, then words such as: currently, as of. should not be used.
I have reworded the lead, but some people may need to reword the article. It cannot be presumed that they will return next year.  The Windler  talk  20:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, I think if the Liberals win the election (and as a result, maintain their control of the ABC Board), then we probably won't see another season of the Chaser.  Hopefully, common sense will win out.  Okay, enough non-article talk.  DEVS EX MACINA pray 23:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Show broadcast 

message: ...needs to be broken down. We should start to set a bar for how major controversies should be, since they are pretty much weekly now. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 08:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but this I protested for before, with no success. Everybody seems to think it is nice. It is messy (and I could go on for hours). My proposed "Controversy" section is in my sandbox (Under "Controversies" section - ignore the rest)(Its a bit outdated now (no seven contreversy).  The Windler  talk  10:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's OK for the time being, given the season is over. Might need to reconsider next season if it gets any larger. Recurring dreams 10:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll doubt there will be a next season, though.  The Windler  talk  20:37, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't assume that the show will be cancelled yet. I honestly cannot see any reasons for the show to get axed. It is one of the ABC's highest rating programs, it's being syndicated to be aired overseas, the unlikelyness that it will move to a commercial network (especially after the seven network ambush). Only two real reasons why it might. The fact that some of the cast and crew will be sitting in jail for months or that as said above, the Australian Government will interfere with the ABC and cancel the show so they cannot hassle politicians anymore. It's all up in the air at the moment. --Lakeyboy (talk) 02:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or possibly they get bored with the show and want to move onto another project. I'm not assuming the show will be cancelled. But you can't assume they will be back. Until they announce they will be back, you assume that the show has ended, not cancelled.  The Windler  talk  04:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies section... 

message: now that the season is finished, i would appreciate if the regular contributors helped out the APEC pranks article, with peer reviews, edits, whatever - GA is not a goal, its a benchmark.
i have outlined some issues that may need to be solved, please see the talk page.
if you think i am being selfish, dont worry i understand :) Jasewase (talk) 04:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  APEC 

message: In the "Segments" section, there are various segments (each under the sub-section being "Primary", "Supporting"," Occasional", or Recurring.). Some segments have examples wheras others don't. I'll use the "Supporting segments" section:
Pursuit Trivia, A Message from Osama Bin Laden, If Life Were A Musical and to an extent Mr. Ten Questions. They all have no examples.
Suprise Spruiker, Crazy WG, Citizens Infringment Officier, and Clive TSTLC. all have examples which were used in the show.
Me, personally, would rather them have no examples. But I would rather them ALL have or not have examples. Why dosen't If Life were a musical get examples wheras Suprise spruiker does. Or the other way round. The importance of the Segments section is not to use examples but to explain the segments.
If examples help then all should have them. But then raises the question of whether they are notable or not? Any comments??  The Windler  talk  01:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should maybe have one example of each (suggest you add them), but not broken up into some but not others. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 01:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by "but not broken up into some but not others". Though, I don't mind doing it. < The Windler  talk  01:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry, you answered on my talk page. Thank you. Appreciate other comments.  The Windler  talk  01:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  examples 

message: In case you didn't notice up top, this article now up for Feature Article Status.  The Windler  talk  01:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article needs Australian English not British/American English.  The Windler  talk  02:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What style it uses doesn't matter. If it uses American English, it needs to use it throughout the whole article. If it uses British English, the same principle applies. Although it is preferable to use Australian English in this article because of the origins of the topic, it isn't compulsory. Spebi 02:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've converted it to fully British English (except we use the Australian/American spelling of the word "program"). — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean 'except we use the Australian/American spelling of the word "program"'?  I changed the article back to using 'program' instead of 'programme' and you reverted that change... Barrylb (talk) 06:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, that comment in brackets referred to your version, which I've since been told we shouldn't be using, rather we should use British throughout. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Indeed, and on Australian English it says "program is more common than programme" and on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling) it says "In Australia, program is widespread in all contexts". Therefore we should use "program" not "programme". Barrylb (talk) 12:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FAC

message: Just as future reference in this article:
*'ABC' (by itself) refers to the corporation (that owns the below).
*'ABC TV' refers to the station/channel, of which this show is broadcast. 
Hope no-one has any issues with that, but the difference must be made, to be clear with non-Australian readers.  The Windler  talk  06:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Half of Australia doesn't know what the ABC is anyway! Sorry, lame joke. Pezzar (talk) 06:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There also is an equivelent ABC in America (American B.. C..), so it must be said that it is Australian.  The Windler  talk  08:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It only needs to be said once, after that it's evident (unless we note the US ABC, which we shouldn't need to do). — Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC 

message: I have changed the title of that section, because at no point in the section does it talk about podcast.
But, I have basically no idea about podcast and vodcasts that I may have completly gone wrong, so if it needs reverting, please do.  The Windler  talk  10:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * I just been to the Chaser's ABC website and there Podcasts/Vodcasts (whats the difference?) are not avalible anymore now the show is off the air. So not really sure if there would be much point to the section now. Only other item could be the YouTube clips that have been posted. --MattyC3350 (talk) 10:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Podcast and Vodcast

message: Segment                                        	Season 126 episodes	Season 224 episodes	Season 38 episodes	Notes
Firth in the USA                               	11                 	6                  	0                 	Includes a "Firth in Kenya" segment from "ep23s1"
Ad Road Test                                   	11                 	10                 	0                 	
In Other News                                  	26                 	0                  	0                 	
The Fixers                                     	0                  	22                 	0                 	
Current Affairs                                	18                 	11                 	0                 	
The Surprise Spriuker                          	12                 	3                  	0                 	Includes A Segment Joined with Crazy Warehouse Guy in "ep26s1"
Crazy Warehouse Guy                            	12                 	3                  	0                 	Does Not Include The Song in "ep22s1"Does Not Include Various Parody Ads Done in "ep3s1"Includes A Segment Joined with Suprise Spruiker in "ep26s1"Does Not Include Documentry in "ep26s1" and "ep13s2"
Pursuit Trivia                                 	11                 	3                  	0                 	
Mr 10 Questions                                	9                  	3                  	0                 	
Subtitles - A Message From Osama Bin laden     	8                  	1                  	0                 	
Subtitles - Another Saddam Outburst            	2                  	0                  	0                 	
Subtitles - Meanwhile in Iran                  	1                  	0                  	0                 	
Subtitles - Everyone Loves Abu                 	1                  	0                  	0                 	
Citizens infringment officer                   	4                  	6                  	1                 	Includes the season 3 segment featuring an Indian which looks like Julian.
If life were a Musical                         	0                  	12                 	1                 	Does Not Include musical done in "War on 2007, best of" after Chaser Decides
Clive the slightly-too-loud commuter           	0                  	6                  	0                 	
What have we learnt from history?              	1                  	2                  	0                 	
famous face off                                	6                  	0                  	0                 	
2.30 report                                    	2                  	0                  	0                 	
News according to fox                          	0                  	2                  	0                 	
What you missed on Cable                       	0                  	3                  	0                 	
Nut Job of the Week                            	0                  	2                  	1                 	
Open Mic                                       	0                  	5                  	1                 	
Election Watch                                 	0                  	5                  	0                 	
Straight to DVD                                	1                  	0                  	0                 	
Say What?!                                     	1                  	0                  	0                 	
Are RSLs harder to get into than APEC?         	0                  	1                  	0                 	
The Lab                                        	0                  	1                  	0                 	
And Time for another Andrew Hansen comedy song.	1                  	0                  	0                 	
The Chaser's British Comedy Sketch             	1                  	0                  	0                 	
Let's ask Jules to join us on the couch        	0                  	0                  	1                 	
Middle East TV                                 	0                  	0                  	1                 	
The above has been compiled by  The Windler  talk  08:09, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: when i created the primary and secondary it was referring to the content rather than the frequency, i.e: primary segment is one which the cast members present live in studio, while secondary are really short and pre-produced Jasewase (talk) 09:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know and agree (meaning Crazy Warehouse Guy appears 15+ times but isn't primary), but I don't believe that Nut job of the week and news according to fox which have been shown twice each, should be there.  The Windler  talk  10:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chaser's War on Everything Segment tallyboard 

message: The reference that says that the dvd will come out on 13 febuary now says that it wont be avalible until the 2 april  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.104.184 (talk) 05:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What a pity. The chaser boys are probably too lazy to do the commentary, or something. Thanks for saying, I (or any one else) wouldn't have noticed.  The Windler  talk  07:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference, Ezydvd has now been updated with a picture of the cover, perhaps some one could put this in the article, but it says nothing about the inclusion of the 2007 series of the chaser decides  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.104.7 (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done,  The Windler  talk  05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I believe with the charges now dropped we could see a much earlier release than August.... 124.183.167.58 (talk) 01:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah but it will take time for the ABC to re package it and everything. Though it should be June at the latest. I think the August date was just after the court case would have ended.  The Windler  talk  06:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The ABC page for the DVD has returned: . Though it says 6th August.  The Windler  talk  08:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 2 vol 2 DVD 

message: Should we to the controversy section by putting in that incident where they call that old actor a pedophile and he apperead on ACA or something and demanded an apology, but instead the Chasers call him a bestialist?144.135.180.109 (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not. Not notable enough in the media, just hyped up by Today Tonight.  The Windler  talk  22:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra controversy 

message: I, as a beloved International viewer of this programme, was looked around several webpages since their screening-off, and eventually found this article from ABC1 website (it says the exact date of comeback is May 27th at 21.00AEST). Is this information correct and useable to mention? Peterhansen2032 (talk) 16:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be correct, you can add it if its sourced.  The Windler  talk  22:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exact date of 2009 Season begins 

message: This section of the article contains some claims that the stunt was met with a widespread negative response but has no sources. It's been sitting on "citation needed" for a while and this section is fairly relevant. Suggest we find a source for the comments quickly or delete them. ChronicLurker (talk) 09:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What would constitute a "reference" here - it was all over the new bulletins, newspapers etc. at the time so if one of these were acceptable you could easily do a dozen. (In fact, if you're genuinely concerned why not do it yourself!!) Frankly I think this tag is a bit stupid and really just needs someone to quietly clean it up - we don't really need to reference every little point until the notes become as long as the article!--Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make a Realistic Wish 

message: I just changed it from "was" a TV show back to "is."  There is going to be a lot of people changing back and forth.  But to be clear in the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/Style_guidelines#Lead_paragraphs it says to use "is" even for no longer airing TV shows. Xmzx (talk) 13:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  is/was 

message: Soundofmusicals, let's please go through which of those links you believe are necessary to assist readers in achieving a better understanding of the topic (as required by WP:LINKING). It is still quite heavily linked, and the aim is to avoid diluting the high-value links. Tony (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is probably better to be a LITTLE "overlinked" rather than omit really important links. For instance much criticism (including that by our esteemed??? Prime Minister) of programs like CWOE are based on a profound ignorance of what satire is - e.g. missing the sarcasm and taking it literally - so a link to our (major) article on satire is certainly NOT irrelevant. Having said this, of course we would agree that linking can be taken to ridiculous lengths. for all that, I suspect there may be some other links that could be restored with advantage. Do you want to double-check these yourself, in the first instance? --Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Our readers are supposed to be able to read English. Every extra link slightly dilutes the high-value ones. It is better not to be slightly overlinked, and nothing is stopping a reader from typing an item into the search box, if it comes to that. Tony (talk) 03:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlinking 

message: Please refrain from hammering in multiple requests for citations when there is actually a citation covering the request on the next line anyway. The "citation required" tag needs to be used with some restraint, and to be applied for genuinely questionable or surprising contexts - not repeatedly slammed in in apparent fits of pique. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple requests for citations in the same sentence. 

message: Apparently the chaser are moving to the comedy channel on foxtel.
Can someone please add the relevant update to the article and add also the citation?
http://www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/channels/the-comedy-channel/the-chasers-war-on-everything-red-button-edition-42577.htm
Thanks, much appreciated.
--TUSWCB (talk) 05:16, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaser in 2010 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michael_Bruggink.  Kthapelo (talk) 03:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: What do you think?

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I have just modified 5 external links on The Chaser's War on Everything. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080808042052/http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=610145 to http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=610145
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070911154308/http://www.devoteddvd.com.au/shop/product_info.php?products_id=38096 to http://www.devoteddvd.com.au/shop/product_info.php?products_id=38096
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070124151141/http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1831871.htm to http://abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1831871.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071115154455/http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=322583 to http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=322583
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080118191514/http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20070907-Media-briefs-and-TV-ratings.html to http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20070907-Media-briefs-and-TV-ratings.html
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:20, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018)