Talk:Protests against the Iraq War

message: There were some big (for Boston) protests at various times, but I can't see any mention of them. I was at a really big one during the fall of maybe 2003? Don't recall if it was just Boston or multiple cities that time. Also, Boston had weekly protests starting from the passage of the PATRIOT Act and those organizers were key in putting those big protests together. Would love to see more about that. Boston activists have a lot of ties to NYC activists. In Boston most of the organizers were former Vietnam protesters and veterans of civil disobedience.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.8.57 (talk) 16:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Boston

message: Please consider including the work of PMR (Port Militarization Resistance). There were ten days worth of protest last May (2006) at the Port of Olympia. Hundreds of protesters blocked Stryker vehicles deploying ahead of troops to Iraq. 33 people were arrested over ten days. Now, Tacoma PMR is currently (as of March 11th 2007) protesting another shipment of Strykers out of the Port of Tacoma ahead of troops. The police have used excessive force, gassing protesters on the night of March 9th, early into March 10th. PMR's position is that the troops will not deploy if the shipments can be stopped. This article also fails to mention the Citizens hearing on the legality of the war back in January, as well as resistance from Iraq war vetrans, and Lt. Watada, who was court marshalled for refusing to deploy. Some sources to include/ sites with more information and press releases= www.couragetoresist.org, www.thankyoult.org, www.omjp.org,  http://www.omjp.org/OlyPort.html, http://www.omjp.org/PortMay06.html, and http://www.omjp.org/Port2007.html. You can also go to google news and google "Port of Tacoma" for news articles. You tube contains footage, as well as an interview with two PMR members. Please consider adding this information to the article.24.18.106.13 21:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Key Protests 

message: I removed a lot of images from this page tonight, in order to continue to clean up and shorten this article.  The way I see it, thus my rationale for this change, is that this page should function less as a full article about all these different protests, or a collection of short articles on these protests, but rather as a list of different protests with descriptions, with links to separate articles on protests as appropriate (think February 15, 2003 global anti-war protest).
Thus as far as images go, the only ones I left are ones that are exclusive to this article.  That's all of two photos.  Of course, for larger protests, I'd like to see more separate articles.  But we shall see...  Schuminweb 03:42, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More text, less images - here's why 

message: Some of the demonstrations on this page are saddly lacking in referances :-(. In orrder to fix this I have done a search for "anti-war demonstrations" on the BBC internet page . I have dumped the results here. Most of it is about the UK 'cus the beeb is a UK institution but there is some global stuff as well. 
Once used in the article the link has will be struck through.
* February 19, 1998 Thursday Transatlantic anti-war protests
* May 18, 1999 Tuesday Europe Anti-war unrest reported in Serbia
* June 1, 1999 Tuesday UK Eight arrested over anti-war protest
* 30 September, 2001 Sunday US peace protests provoke fury
* 9 October, 2001 Tuesday Demonstration over US air strikes
* 3 November, 2001 Saturday Thousands join anti-war protest
* 20 January 2002 Monday Bradford Thousands gather for peaceful protest
* 30 March, 2002 Saturday Thousands demonstrate against Iraq war
* 18 September, 2002 Wednesday Activists prepare anti-war campaign
* 25 September, 2002 Wednesday 'Thousands to join anti-war rally'
* 28 September, 2002 Saturday Protesters stage anti-war rally
* 5 October, 2002 Saturday Italians march against Iraq war
* 31 October, 2002 moved to Talk:Halloween 2002 anti-war protest
* 1 November, 2002 Friday Protesters say 'don't attack Iraq'
* 1 November, 2002 Friday Anti-war protesters block traffic
* 28 November, 2002 Thursday Masks and banners ambush Blair
* 30 November, 2002 Saturday Australians march against war in Iraq
* 19 January, 2003 Sunday Police arrest anti-war protesters
* 19 January, 2003 Sunday Peace protesters stage UK vigils
* 19 January, 2003 Sunday Global protests against Iraq war
*20 January, 2003 Monday Global Arab press hails anti-war protests
*25 January, 2003 Saturday Southampton (uk) Anti-war campaigners in port protest
*7 February, 2003 Friday U.K War protesters occupy Labour HQ
* 15 Febuary articles moved to Talk:February 15, 2003 global anti-war protest#BBC trawl for referances
* 25 February 2003 Tuesday Tyneside (u.k.) Anti-war demo at Tyne tank factory
* 28 February, 2003 Friday Blackburn (u.k.) Straw fails to face demonstrators
* 1 March, 2003 Saturday Birmingham (u.k) Anti-war demo attracts thousands
* 2 March, 2003 Sunday Brighton (u.k)Police criticise 'unacceptable' war march
*5 March, 2003 U.K. Wednesday Britain Pupils walk out over war
* 5 March, 2003 Wednesday Newcastle (u.k) Truancy warning after anti-war demo
* 7 March, 2003 Friday Leicester (u.k) Arrests at children's anti-war protest
* 7 March, 2003 Friday Fairford (u.k) Students join RAF base demonstrations
*08 March 2003 Manchester (u.k) Manchester on the march for peace
* 19 March, 2003 Wednesday West Yorkshire (u.k) Trouble mars anti-war protest
* 19 March, 2003 Wednesday Birmingham (u.k) Pupil war demo forces school closure
* 19 March, 2003 Wednesday Cornwall (u.k) Pupils suspended over anti-war protest
* 19 March, 2003 Wednesday Bristol (u.k) Pupils walk out in anti-war protest
* 20 March, 2003 links moved to Talk:March 20, 2003 anti-war protest#Information to be added
* 21 March, 2003 Friday Bristol (u.k) Anti-war protests continue
* 21 March, 2003 Friday Sanaa (Yemen) Two killed in anti-war protests
* 21 March, 2003 Friday San Francisco (u.s) Mass arrests at US peace demo
* 22 March, 2003 Saturday Manchester (u.k) Police plea for 'peaceful' protests
*22 March, 2003 Saturday Global Anti-war protests span the globe
*27 March, 2003 Thursday U.K. Protests continue after week of war
*28 March, 2003 Friday Iran Huge anti-war march in Iran
*29 March 2003 Oxford War protestors demonstrate in Oxford
*29 March, 2003 Saturday Edigbrugh Thousands join anti-war march
*30 March, 2003 Sunday Jakarta (Indonesian) Anti-war anger spreads worldwide
*26 October, 2003 Sunday U.S. Thousands join US anti-war march
*27 September, 2003 Saturday London Thousands stage Iraq demo
*2 June, 2004 Wednesday Italy Anti-war protest at Italy parade
*19 March, 2005 Saturday Glasgow  Iraq rally hears troops out call
*11 June 2005 Sussex  Anti-war protesters march on city
*School student protests 'Stop the war protests' heads told
*Brian Haw Campaigner to scale down protest
--JK the unwise 18:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Search for references 

message: I just finished reformatting the article back to where there are lots of headings.  However, the headings are smaller and there are now indentations in order to facilitate readability.  I considered the bulleted version of the article to look like too monolithic of a block of text, and I personally was disinclined to either read it or edit it.  Now that it's more visibly broken into smaller chunks, it makes it appear more prone to actually getting read.
Additionally, keeping it broken out like that makes editing easier.  Rather than dealing with a large block of text, one can just edit the specific section that they wish and not have to deal with other areas.
I do like the way it's broken up now as far as time periods and such.  I tweaked just slightly, though, to match it to periods in the war in Iraq.
Schuminweb 23:32, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reformatted article back into lots of headings 

message: The section on protests on the Popular opposition to the 2003 Iraq War lists this page as the main page for that subject and so should just be a summary of this page. For this reason the folowing text which was added to that page should be worked into this page.
In October 2005, hundreds of vigils and protests occurred in towns across the U.S., all calling for "Not One More Death. Not One More Dollar."  The event is sponsored by the American Friends Service Committee, Gold Star Families for Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, and Military Families Speak Out.
One of the most popular chants used by protesters was "no blood for oil."
Nu metal band System of a Down made a protest song called "Boom!", and invited documentarist Michael Moore to direct the music video, consisting mostly of clips of the protests worldwide.
--JK the unwise 16:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text from Popular opposition to the 2003 Iraq War, protests section. 

message: I changed the name from Protests against the invasion of Iraq to Protests against the Iraq war as this seems more accurate. Protests took place not only against the inicial invation but also against the continuining war.
A while back the page was called Global protests against war on Iraq and was changed to Global protests against invasion of Iraq by Ed Poor for the reason that 'Invation of Iraq' is more neutral then the POV 'war on Iraq'. I agree that 'war on Iraq' is problematic but I think the propper NPOV title is 'Iraq war'. This is a popular name for the conflict, and it is uncontrovercial since no one disagrees that there was a War and that it was in Iraq.--JK the unwise 11:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  name change 

message: Post-September 11 anti-war movement is writtern in a POV editorial orriginal reasearch fasion. I belive that this partly steams from the title which sets the article up to present an editorialised content. 
To solve this problem I want to propose merging the content of the article into this page and the following pages Opposition to the 2001 Afghanistan War, Protests against the invasion of Afghanistan, Opposition to the 2003 Iraq War, Anti-war and The Left and war and then deleting Post-September 11 anti-war movement.--JK the unwise 13:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned elsewhere, I see most of the article as NPOV, and am not comfortable with breaking up the article, since itself tells a story of how the "modern" anti-war movement got going.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can that story not be told accross Opposition to the 2001 Afghanistan War and [[Opposition to the 2003 Iraq War?--JK the unwise 10:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Hopefully this revision will streamline things a bit.  What I did is I removed the year headings (i.e. ===2004===) and promoted all the date headings to level-three headings.  I figure that since every single date entry lists the year, that a separate year heading is unnecessary.  This also straightens out the table of contents, which, since the addition of major time points (prior to invasion, invasion to fall, post-fall), had been kind of strange, since different divisions were laid on top of each other.  As I said, this straightens it out, with our getting rid of the year separations.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision of 04:57, 11 December 2005 

message: Can the heavily endowed, 'astroturf' organizations which comprise the 'antiwar' movement be factually described as 'popular?' especially since the largest of these demonstrations were organized by members of Saddam Hussein's legal council?
also, few of these groups are against war, supporting 'anti-imperialist war' against the U.S.. Describing them or their initiatives as 'anti-war' is counter-factual and POV. I'll make the nessesary changes.
::The largest of these demonstrations were organized by members of Saddam Hussein's legal council? What do you mean? Are you refering to those people in cammo suits and holding AK-47 who used to call themselves Iraki Army?
::Being from Irak, you don't need to be a supporter of Saddam Hussein nor member of his legal council to be against the military invasion and bombing of the city where you and your family live. Anyway, there were millions outside Iraq who demonstrated against the war.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.129.42.9 (talk) 16:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "popular" opposition, 'anti-war' - false, misleading designations 

message: Iraq War is capitalized, as all named wars. --nirvana2013 13:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If we're to do that, we'll need to get an admin to remove that redirect in order to clear the way for the move.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Nightstallion (?) 12:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename article to [[Protests against the Iraq War]] 

message: Morton devonshire removed the template and the disambiguation comment at the top of this article. On my talk page he explained that he had not meant to remove the anti-war topics template only the disambig' sentence because
"The disambig isn't necessary, and in other similar articles this kind of information is placed under a 'See Also' header. From the WP style sheets I've seen, articles are supposed to start with a simple [subject] is . . . format"
I think that this disambig' comment was orrginally added by an annon user who did not provide an edit comment. (see 
). Other wikipedia articles do contain this kind of thing but usally only if the article subject is very similar to (or likely to be confused with) other articles. Neither of these things seem to be the case with this article so I agree with Morton that we should move the links into the see also section.--JK the unwise 13:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambig' 

message: The bit about the A29 protest needs to be updated.  It currently speaks like it was written before the event happened (which is the case).  We need to rewrite it to tell what actually happened, vs. what will happen.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 29, 2006 

message: Before this becomes a List of anti-war organizations in the external links section, would anyone be averse to cutting this WAY back, particularly regarding those links that already have articles?  SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cutting back the external links 

message: The January 27, 2007 protest was downplayed by the media, due to the attack of the media by various socialist groups, anarchists, etc.  As a firsthand man of experience, there was well over a 100,000 people at this protest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.125.201.197 (talk) 03:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. Media - Chomsky 

message: Riddled with bias, I'm not saying its wrong, it's just not encyclopedic. Billcarr178 (talk) 06:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Extrapolate?  SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: I think this article is an interesting colleciton of info, but I dunno if having a section for each month (or in some cases each day) is the right approach.  Perhaps keeping the timeframes as the main sections, and then using bullets and lists to itemize the protests under that...perhaps giving a full section to more significant protests (such as the one listed as the record for largets protest). -- TRTX T / C 18:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm kind of on the fence about it, personally.  Could you reformat it the way you're thinking in a "sandbox" in your userspace so we can see your idea in assembled form?  SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can give it a shot.  It may take a bit to work out kinks though. -- TRTX T / C 15:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Great.  Don't worry too much about de-kinking, though, at this point.  I just want an idea about what you're proposing.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article probably would be better served as a sectioned list 

message: I read a book a while back by a US Marine, it may have been Shooter by Jack Coughlin, but the author said he was approached by western anti war protesters in Baghdad, and several Iraqi men came over and wanted to beat them up because they were glad Saddam was gone, the same people they were there to protest against, were the ones that had to defuse the situation and save them lol.  --Conor Fallon (talk) 02:11, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  In baghdad 

message: adding timeline infront of the title. Carachi (talk) 08:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You do not have consensus for this move.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Requesting that another editor please move this article back to the original title of Protests against the Iraq War pending further discussion (I am at my limit per 3RR).  SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2002-2011 Protests against the Iraq War 

message: the link to the protest mentioned on april 29th, 2006, is broken and i would like to suggest using this here instead: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/29/AR2006042900497.html
in addition, it would be nice to mention the celebrities as well as the (underestimated) number of people attending.
--96.63.2.100 (talk) 13:56, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  april 29, 2006 

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message: I am pretty sure a million billion people is a bit much, considering the total world population does not even remotely approach even a thousand billion, a hundred billion, much less a whole million.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.16.228.206 (talk) 21:21, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: In a counterpoint to anti-war demonstrations, supporters of war in Iraq have descended on cities from Fort Wayne to Cleveland, and Atlanta to Philadelphia. They wave flags, messages of support for the troops - and also banners attacking liberals, excoriating the UN, and in one case, advising: "Bomb France Now."  -- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/26/usa.iraq
You had the likes of Students for War.
Why give the antiwar movement so much space and the much larger and powerful prowar movement isn't even mentioned? Not a word about the prowar demonstrations, which much more than the antiwar demonstrations define the Iraq War and the era. Antiwar demonstrations are the norm, because people tend to prefer peace to war. Prowar manifestations are far out there. I don't think you ever see it outside of authoritarian societies.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.253.73.146 (talk) 16:43, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias: No pro-Iraq war article