Talk:Gato-class submarine

message: That's a lot of boats. Could someone summarize the most notable successes of the Gatos? Bastie 16:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary

message: I rewrote to this:
*-- General characteristics --
* Displacement: 1526 tons surfaced, 2424 tons submerged
* Length: 307ft (93.6m) waterline, 311ft 9in (95m) overall
* Beam: 27 ft 3in (8.31m)
* Draft: 15 ft 3in (4.65m)
* Test depth: 300ft {91.4m})
* Speed: 20.25 knots (37.5 km/h) surfaced, 8.75 knots (16 km/h) submerged
* Armament: 10 x 21 in (53cm) torpedo tubes (6 forward, 4 aft, 24 torpedoes); 1 x 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber AA gun 2x0.5" (12.7mm) and 2x0.3" {7.62mm} machineguns
* Crew: 80 – 85 officers and men
* Powerplant: 4 x 1350 hp (1 MW) 16cyl General Motors 278A diesel engines (except SS228-239 and SS275-284 10cyl Fairbanks-Morse 38D-1/8), 2 x 1370 hp (1020kW) General Electric electric motors (except SS228-235 Elliot Motor or SS257-264 Allis-Chalmers)
* Range: 11,800 nautical miles (21,900 km) at 10 knots (19 km/h) surfaced
I base that on Lenton, American Submarines. The 4x6500hp diesel is such an obvious mistake I can only conclude somebody didn't notice there were 2 engines on each shaft & that was a total hp. The "4x" electric motors is wrong, too. There were 2 motors, 1 on each shaft. The original 1800t surfaced tonnage doesn't agree with any published figure I've ever seen, either, & it's well above the published numbers for Gato & Tench, which it should be close to, since the design didn't change significantly til after the Tenches were completed. I should also mention, parenthetically, Gato, Balao, & Tench had a design capacity of 26 torpedoes (with the additional bow tube, according to Beach); by my count, it's 30, but...  Trekphiler 22:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Early-war F-M boats (all Gatos and Balaos until ) had 9-cyl engines and all afterward had 10-cyl engines. And all Gatos and all but 18 Balaos had four electric motors total, two on each shaft's reduction gears. The late-war 2-motor boats had "double armature" direct-drive motors (no reduction gears) which are consistently listed as two motors. All of this makes for a lot of confusion. RobDuch (talk) 05:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: This page says he sank 5 destroyers...however, his page says sank 3, damaged 2.  Which is correct? Afabbro 07:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samuel Dealey 

message: "1-351" would seem to be a typo, but the article on Japanese submarine I-351 doesn't mention a sinking by a US sub. Rees11 (talk) 13:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I-351 

message: The article needs to mention that some Gatos served in Italy, Greece, Japan, Brazil and Turkey, it doesn't say anything81.37.165.59 (talk) 13:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-war service 

message: I reverted the part about "one or two" deck guns, but actually (according to Subs thru 45) by the end of the war, captains were given the option of mounting two five inch guns. Also, at the beginning of the war the subs had .30 and .50 machine guns, but by the end they had 20mm and 40mm cannon. Rees11 (talk) 17:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The 3-inch gun was always mounted aft as far as I know. I've seen the 4-inch mounted both forward and aft. Gato had her aft 3-inch replaced with a forward 4-inch in November 1944, which you can see in the photos at . I think the original idea was the deck gun would be used to shoot it out with pursuing destroyers so needed to be mounted aft. Of course this was ludicrous. Late in the war large targets were hard to find, so guns were mounted forward to sink small craft on the surface. The CO seems to have been given a lot of latitude as to armament. I think Subs thru 45 has a chapter on this. Rees11 (talk) 13:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guns 

message: This article appears to reference the Fluckey book to say that the ground attack on Karafuto was the only attack of the war on the Japanese "home islands".  But how was Karafuto (Sakhalin Island) a "home island" but Okinawa was not?  This is ridiculous.  The "home islands" were and are Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku and Hokkaido, not Sakhalin.  If anything, Okinawa was more of a "home island" than Sakhalin, since Okinawa was a "ken" (prefecture), and Karafuto was a "cho".  It is wrong for the ignorance of Fluckey's book to reappear in this article.  --Westwind273 (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is no objection, then I will remove the sentence.  --Westwind273 (talk) 07:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  If Karafuto is a home island, then so is Okinawa 

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