Talk:Cipriano Ferrandini

message: I have started the clean up -- this article was clearly not written in the style of an encyclopedia article. Please see WP:NOT -- an encyclopedia article should not pose questions or speculate. Let's stick to the facts that are verifiable. More work is likely need to salvage this. Ground Zero | t 17:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: It's hard to have confidence in this article when it's apparently the work of an amateur digging around from his computer seat.  What else is the following but a description of one editor's original research?  Because there is a project at the Maryland State Archives to bring all extant vital records in Maryland online, research began with the end to see if there were any records of anyone with such a distinctive name who died in Maryland. Two were found, father and son.... Cipriano died at the end of a census year, so his presence in Maryland could be traced backwards decade by decade using census schedules on Ancestry.com which provides all the extant census records accompanied by more or less helpful indexes.  
The smell of vanity project is made stronger by POV tidbits in the intro like "From that day forward, historians have argued over whether or not there was a plot and in the course of their narratives have not only created myths and perpetrated fallacies" (unfortunately unelaborated).  The representative of one side on the debate, Scharf, just "spilled ink"; the leader of another side, Evitts, conducted "carefully considered research".  I'm skeptical how much of this passes Wikipedia's standard of verifiability. NOTE:  The contributor here simply did not read carefully, nor did he or she consult the Maryland State Archives web site.  The initial Wikipedia article was based on a secondary source, the on line biography of Ferrandini at the Maryland State Archives web site.  The author there is a recognized scholar who has published two widely used volumes of biography. The author of this article agrees that every author needs a good editor and the article definitely needs strengthening.  Some of the changes, however, were made by others who needed their own editing by a good editor.  That is one of the strengths of Wikipedia, in that people do pay attention and eventually improve what is written there. Civility sometimes is lacking however in these comments coupled with undeserved arrogance, which is the case here.  71.136.180.15 (talk) 00:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: This entire article is lifted from the Maryland State Archives:  http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc3500/sc3520/014400/014473/html/14473bio.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shootseven (talk •Note to commentator:  Hardly:  The author of the on-line biography at the Maryland State Archives is the the Author of the Wikipedia Article, but none of the biographical articles of the Maryland State Archives are copyrighted.  They are protected by user name and password because some contain copyrighted material that can only be used for personal and educational purposes.  Ed Papenfuse, Maryland State Archives. contribs) 03:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright infringement 

message: I tired to clean up the article by removing extraneous details, non-nuetral POV and orginal research. Still reads a little clunkly, though.Wkharrisjr (talk) 15:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up