Talk:First Rays of the New Rising Sun

message: I suggest that this Album be placed after :Blues in the chronology rather than before it, as it is known that the Release date is considered for the Chronology not the recording Date. If i hear no reply on the issue or if no one objects, i will fix that problem within two weeks.
--Six 7 8 19:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That still needs to be fixed.  Bubba73 (talk), 01:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The chronology

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:FirstRays.jpg

message: although I applaud the author's intent and many of the story lines and citations seem factual, this article suffers from several challenges:
a. it is highly speculative and laced with presumption ("This reconstruction of First Rays of the New Rising Sun, however, is not the best representation of what Jimi would have intended.")
b. it lacks any independent corroboration with no references for its claims (i.e."according to some sources")
c. overall is in need of serious footnoting (i.e. where is Hendrix's handwritten track list? "(according to Kramer)"??
I hope to come back and see that the author has re-worked it to meet the Wikipedia Standards (esp adding footnotes/references) as I, for one, would love to follow through and learn more.
Bebopnjazz
If common sense were truly common, every one would have it. (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and have started to edit this Wikipedia:BOLDly, mostly for a more neutral, encyclopedic tone.  Comments and help appreciated.  Msalt (talk) 19:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, I think that's a pretty stable (and fairly well improved) version.  Any thoughts, Bebopnjazz? Msalt (talk) 01:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't disagree -- basically I just reworded what I found here.  My focus was on fixing the writing and organization, which needed some help.  I didn't really look at the sources that closely -- and don't really have time to -- though I'm reasonably familiar with Hendrix's history and music, and it seems roughly accurate.  Hopefully someone with time and sources can pursue the references. You'll notice that I added a section called "Possible Sources" with some that I found while editing here.Msalt (talk) 21:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs a great deal of work to meet Wikipedia Standards 

message: Obviously this article needs better sourcing.  Here are some references I've seen listed but don't have access to right now:
- "Black Gold the Lost Archives of Jimi Hendrix" by Steven Roby (book)
- the french magazine Folk & Rock (November 1994) (re: Hendrix's handwritten track list)
- http://www.progressiveworld.net/hendrix3.html
Msalt (talk) 20:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Sources 

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