Talk:Ragamuffin cat

message: Ragamuffin has multiple meanings.."A shabbily clothed, dirty child" -- unsigned
:That's why this is at Ragamuffin (cat), not Ragamuffin. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: Can anybody confirm that Ragamufin as a name of a demon?
I found it at *http://st09.startlogic.com/~pendrago/demons.html but it's hard for me to believe that or several other names. --anon
:This belongs at Talk:Ragamuffin, not here.  — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: A Demon?

message: the  ACFA RAGAMUFFIN Standard
Revised April 2000
:General
:The overall impression of the RagaMuffin should be one of sweetness and robust health. RagaMuffin females are generally considerably smaller than males, both being muscular, and heavy with a tendency toward a fatty pad (greater omentum) on the lower abdomen. RagaMuffins attain full maturity at approximately four years of age. The cat is striking whether it is color point, color point with a white blaze or star, mitts and tipped tail set against darker fur, a dramatically marked tabby, or a breathtaking calico. The only extremes in this cat are large size, large expressive eyes and docile nature. A RagaMuffin is people loving and affectionate-a large, cuddly, feline teddy bear! Jiohdi (talk) 15:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Standards

message: (comment moved here from main article)
Not true. Josephine was a different type of cat and yes, mixed with other breed. Ragamuffins weren't first on the pallet. This information is misleading. Ragdolls were first and the name was patented by Ann Baker. Another group that branched out due to breeding restrictions came up with the ragamuffin. If you are going to type this rubbish, at least get the information and they history correct. Yes Ann Baker was a basket case. But you can't type this info in here like this. This is almost written as if you are a fan and breeder of the cat ragamuffin. I have over a decade of history with the ragdoll breed. I demand this article be removed or at least revised with accurate information for others to search correctly.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Danikablack (talk • contribs) 
:I removed the sentence about ragdolls being subsets of ragamuffins. The other parts of the article seems to fit what you say. Anyone can edit the article so feel free to correct any wrong information or add new info to the article.--Dodo bird (talk) 06:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, the allowance of outcrosses doesn't make any breed a subset of another breed. This subcategory info is meaningless.--Dodo bird (talk) 01:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

text: its not about outcrossing, but the fact that ragamuffins and ragdolls were originally one and the same, but now ragamuffins includes a greater set of cats which still includes the original ragdolls, but not the current ones.Jiohdi (talk) 19:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Apparently IRCA Ragdolls and Ragamuffins were one and the same, but unrelated to the original Ragdolls who came from Josephine. Jiohdi (talk) 01:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect article! 

message: some of the reference links are broken  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.114.173 (talk) 20:35, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Mark them with  and someone will try to fix them. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken links 

message: "They are adorable as early as four months of age." Seriously!? 151.24.55.58 (talk) 11:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of cat articles have this problem.  Please remove personal-opinion stuff like this with extreme prejudice. You do not need to seek consensus on the talk page to removed unsourced material or other violations of Wikipedia policies like WP:NPOV. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:51, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quite a bit POV 

message: So the title of the article is "Ragamuffin", correct? Then how come every reference to the breed in the article capitalizes the "m" so that it looks like "RagaMuffin"? Please set this straight so that, right or wrong, they are both consistent. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 16:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed most or all of the CamelCase spellings to normal English while retaining a note in the lead that some prefer the CamelCase, which is a far as we need to go in honoring cutesy font games. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:52, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd capitalization 

message: I'm trying to think of a legitimate reason to not merge this to Ragdoll or vice-versa, since they're the same breed as promoted by different breeders/boosters and as codified by different cat fancy organizations.  I'm inclined to merge Ragamuffin (cat) into Ragdoll as the derivative sub-breed and the less-used term.  Is there any registry that permits "both breeds" and actual has non-trivially distinguished breed standards for "both".  This to me is like having a separate article for Longhair Manx and Cymric (cat), which we would never do; they're the same thing, as named differently by different groups and with insignificant conformation variations between groups. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  09:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: CFA recognizes them as two different breeds.Dodo bird (talk) 10:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: I am adding a number of references in order to improve the citation basis of the article and fixing a few broken links.  I am not adding or removing any information at this time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darques (talk • contribs) 14:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the article 

message: Could someone who knows add information about the average weight and height of this cat?  Thank you. Rissa, copy editor (talk) 01:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight and Length 

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