Talk:Batman Returns/Archive 1

message: Max Shreck wants to build a "giant capacitor to suck power from the city." 
Does anyone have any theorys on what would have motivated him to want a giant capacitor?(69.180.43.235 21:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WHY???

message: The Trivia section reads to me like it's been copy/pasted directly from IMDb's trivia page - can anyone clarify this, and if so, I'm assuming that this shouldn't happen? Check out the revisions of around 29th/30th December. Also, going through to TMC1982's talk page makes it clear that he has a history of posting copyrighted material... Satansrubberduck 02:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: In the sentence in the first paragraph about Danny Elfman's score, I changed the link attached to the word 'gothic' from goth to gothic horror (redirects to gothic novel), which I think is a better link -- the movie had nothing to do with modern goth culture.  ArglebargleIV 08:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gothic atmosphere 

message: SUMMARY people, not novel. ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 01:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As for "Dramatis Personae", I guess I've read a bit too much Wookiepedia lately.--Lenin & McCarthy 08:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It being on national TV the other night probably gave it some bloat. BabuBhatt 08:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in Britain. I just like the film. Lenin & McCarthy 08:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do too. BabuBhatt 08:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was here? I didn't see it. Lenin & McCarthy 08:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHOA! Huge Plot summary.  

message: Removed the info on the actors from the text, as that sort of information belongs on the individual actor pages and seems rather silly in the description. Anyway, just a bit of grammatical and Common Sense(TM) editing from me this time.--Snowgrouse 15:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By that logic, the info about the character should be on the characters page as well. ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 00:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to lead characters' actors 

message: What pompous undergraduate was at work here? Three thousand, six hundred words. That's probably more dialogue than there is in the fucking movie.
We know. But no one has tried to condense it yet. Lenin & McCarthy 06:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A three-thousand six hundred word summary? 

message: Someone wrote that the mayor in question is called "Hamilton Hill". I just Googled him, and it turns out that that is the name of the mayor in the animated series, but I couldn't find anything about that name for the film. I've also read the novelization, and the was no mention of him there either.--Lenin & McCarthy 11:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayor Hill 

message: I've just stripped about 1,100 words from the plot summary, but it's still too damn long (1,400 words plus). I've also removed the repition of plot points that occurred with the character list. PacificBoy 19:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot cleanup 

message: This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it.  Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed.  I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy.  In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks,---J.smith 03:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube links 

message: I agree with David that we don't really need a big ugly "spoiler" sign here.  This is an encyclopedia and the spoilers serve no real encyclopedic purpose. --Tony Sidaway 00:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler

message: Just to let everyone know.Wildroot 17:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Plot" situation has finally been fixed

message: Wasn't Schreck's and the Penguin's first "partnership" only formed to allow for the Penguin to research his ancestry? And it wasn't until Bruce Wayne (backed by the current mayor) refused to work with Schreck on the new power plant, that Schreck needed a new mayor to facilitate his plan. And thus he did not introduce the Penguin to his idea of him running for mayor, until the surprise "party"? I don't have the movie myself, so I am not entirely sure.. Poulsen (talk) 01:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schreck/Penguin partnership 

message: Please review this article, and if you seek improvements, contact me so it can be promoted to GA status. Go to Wikipedia:Good article nominations#Film and cinema. Wildroot (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nominee

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Comments:
#"DeVito was the first and only choice for the Penguin, and writer Daniel Waters wrote the character with him in mind; and in turn, DeVito spent two hours a day in make-up." (Cast) This sentence is very awkward; it is connected with a semi-colon, but I see no relation between what comes before the semi-colon and what comes after it. This would only make sense if you were trying to remark that on account of the fact Daniel Waters wrote the Penguin with DeVito in mind, DeVito spent (or was willing to spend) two hours a day in make-up. If so, there's better ways to phrase it. If not, then the sentence really needs some work. In either case, very confusing.  I took out the make-up part as I don't really feel it's relevant that he spent two hours a day in prosthetics anymore. Wildroot 11:16, 08 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead still doesn't make reference to the "Music" section, or the awards that it was nominated for. Once it does, however, it should be ready for GA status. Cheers, CP 00:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, everything looks good now, so I'll be passing this as a Good Article. Congratulations, and thank you for your hard work! Cheers, CP 00:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: In the intro it says it's "fantasy". It should be "action" or something like that. M.nelson (talk) 21:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fantasy Film?? 

message: I believe it deserves to at least be listed on this page.  It had a main title song and corresponding video and everything.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.162.122.6 (talk) 03:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Soundtrack

message: Any idea why this is categorized as a Christmas film? I don't see any real reference to Christmas in the text. I'm currently tagging for the Christmas task force and, maybe, Christmas portal, and wouldn't mind having a GA to add to the portal rotation, but am not sure whether this article really relates to Christmas or not, or even why the category is there. John Carter (talk) 02:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just the plot is happening around the time of christmas and you can see a christmas tree and some presents in it. Nonetheless, I would NOT categorize it as a "christmas movie". If we categorize every movie which shows christmas trees or some part of the plot take place by the time of christmas, we would have to categorize Die Hard as a christmas movie (which someone already did!!).  That´s quite strange and pointless and has of course nothing to do with christmas movies. Well, some people overdo things! --93.133.215.199 (talk) 11:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas film? 

message: The plot "summary" seems excessively detailed (and very poorly written). I was unable to locate the correct location to read up on the guidelines for plot summaries, so this is just my gut level feeling on it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corwynofamber (talk • contribs) 01:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive Plot detailse 

message: If there are reliable, verifiable sources for both versions of wht Burton didn't direct the next film, both version should be in the article. Wikipedia doesn't get to push one version over the other.
- J Greb (talk) 01:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quit/Fired 

message: After having seen the film for the first time yesterday I am a bit confused. It is often said that Christopher Walken is a non-swimmer. However, in this film there is a short diving scene with him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.37.200 (talk) 13:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diving scene with Christopher Walken 

message: I was confused:  A CD player is used and the cars seemed to be modern, but the clothes looked mid-2oth century.  Is there any documentation on what time period the story is supposed be in?!!!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.225.33.104 (talk) 03:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time period? 

message: The article has been reading lately that toxic waste killed the penguin.  This is rubbish.  The area where he landed was right where the penguins had been swimming moments before, and obviously, he wouldn't let his penguins swim in toxic waste.  So, when he falls there, it can be easilly deduced that stress from the fight, the fall, and the destruction of the giant air-cooler (which Catwoman destroys) is actually what killed him.  Not that toxic waste magically materialized there.  
Plus, he stated earlier that he is cold blooded, and right before he dies, he claims "The heat's getting to me," which is further evidence that the stress and heat is what killed him.  MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 19:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it´s (at least) an illogical goof, since he was born into a regular environment and lived as a baby together with his parents in a regular tempered house and in their rooms. It´s impossible and quite stupid to suggest a warm-blooded creature turns into an cold blooded one, only because he lives for some years in an cold environment. So it´s a flaw of the script. --93.135.109.107 (talk) 11:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penguin's Death 

message: Is there a source for the post-credits scene that was added to the plot section on May 5th, 2008?  It isn't in the TV edit, VHS verison, original DVD, or SE DVD of the film.  Lisper em (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-Credits Scene Scource? 

message: Will someone please add something that tells how the film found a more mixed view over the years.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.5.219.27 (talk) 19:51, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Rotten Tomatoes has been updated over the years and it still has generally favorable reviews. You might be able to find interviews with comic book writers that gave a more mixed response. Wildroot (talk) 23:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: okay, rotten tomatoes is just one reviewer website, so I'll look for other sources that show why it found a more mixed response, and I will make sure it is not a blog.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.101.152.251 (talk) 22:21, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New following  

message: I specifically remember this film doing poorly in its time. It did not bomb, but it was not a great commercial success. After a good opening weekend it tanked down to 8'th place or so. I vividly remember this because I was a huge Batman fan as a kid and paid very close attention to those details at the time. Also, critics originally panned the film. I came here after "Rotten Tomatoes" actually to learn why the film's popularity reversed over time, only to read an article written as if the film had always been a critical success. Far from it. I liked it as a kid, but I was disappointed by how so many critics hated it, on top of its poor success.
Neurolanis (talk) 09:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Missing Key Notes 

message: Could someone provide a quote or something confirming the claim about Burton’s “mixed emotions toward Batman (1989)”? The given quote doesn’t seem to have anything to do with such, and I have no access ot the cited source. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 05:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burton’s “mixed emotions” 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Can Bill Finger please have his name credited under the “Based on” category? Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1501:9110:50B6:62AD:85D9:C08 (talk) 03:32, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Finger-Creator of Batman 

message: I've added Bill Finger to the infobox under the "based on" section along with Bob Kane. As I've stated on the other Batman film pages Finger is now an acknowledged co-creator of Batman. I think it's important to add this to each page since it keeps the pages as factual as possible - without this note in the infobox there is little or no reference to Finger as the co-creator, while some mention of Kane's contribution is still present.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendly Lobotomy (talk • contribs) 19:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Finger Co-creator Credit 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Batman_Returns&oldid=prev&diff=915734895
My edit of adding Batman Returns is reverted by a random stranger. I put Larry Franco because it said he co-produce this based on his wikipedia page. And said wikipedia page stayed. It is really funny how he doesn't bother correcting the other wiki page then, either for his laziness or he afraid his edit too will get reverted  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyoroemon2 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larry Franco position in this movie 

message: Could I correct Box office gross to the gross listed in this article.
https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_Returns#cite_ref-0 2607:FEA8:4EA0:451E:41D:DDC:AF2C:7470 (talk) 23:54, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Boxoffice Mojo is the best source. Either get consensus here or leave it as it is. Sundayclose (talk) 00:11, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2020 

message: All the information for this movie is all wrong. I wish to correct it so all the viewers can find the actual facts of this blockbuster movie. 2600:1700:8780:4600:9029:B584:F01B:A827 (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2022 

message: In the very first instance of the character name, it is mistakenly spelled "Cobblepot". I would correct it, but the article has been locked for some unfathomable reason. 174.68.157.5 (talk) 23:46, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see it misspelt anywhere, you'll need to be more specific, Cobblepot is the correct spelling. Darkwarriorblake / Vote for something that matters 09:10, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misspelling of Cobblepot 

message: The "Commercialism and loneliness" section contains a preposterous suggestion that this film is antisemitic. First of all, antisemitism has nothing to do with "commercialism and loneliness."
Secondly, this is clearly nothing more than an attempt to shoehorn a controversial topic into this article. It seems to me that the edits were likely made by one of the two authors of the New York Times article being cited, in an attempt to self promote.
Considering the film does not contain any antisemitic material whatsoever, the New York Times article itself was nothing more than a rather pathetic attempt by the authors to gain attention for themselves by making a mockery of actual antisemitism. 
The entire section containing any absurd accusations of antisemitism should be removed immediately. 2601:40D:C100:C6F0:85EA:C5F3:7159:F827 (talk) 20:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitism?