Talk:List of One Life to Live cast members

message: It seems that by convention, this info is usually deleted from the main soap articles (I've done it myself). It's been re-added here, and I actually don't object to it now that the cast info is in a separate list; the info is notable. Anyway, I don't really care either way, but perhaps the issue can be discussed here before editors start reverting it back and forth? TAnthony 15:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Status dates

message: Both of these actors have signed contracts with the show. It was reported in Soap Opera Digest shortly before their debuts on the show. Please do not remove them from the Current Contract cast list. 69.28.232.216 02:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  January Lavoy and John Rue 

message: It was reported in ABC Soaps In Depth that Austin Williams (Shane) is contract, and that Brian Kerwin (Charlie) is recurring. Both in the November 6 issue.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.176.30 (talk) 23:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The character of Shane Morasco and Charlie Banks

message: I always thought that it was "Lois" too (as in Lois Cerullo from GH), but it was spelled as "Lowice" in the closing credits last January. 70.17.178.143 (talk) 14:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting! If you're sure, I might just put a footnote in about that to keep people like me from changing it!  ;) — TAnthonyTalk 16:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lowice/Lois

message: :Tobias Truvillion (Vincent) is not recurring. He is a contracted cast member. Just because someone is backburnered does not make them recurring. What does make them recurring is if they DO NOT have a CONTRACT. And on another note, January LaVoy (Noelle) is on CONTRACT until SPRING, somewhere around March or April. So please quit removing them from the "Current Cast Members". 65852002o (talk) 02:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just added the source for Tobias, looks like he is recuuring, but you are so right -- people make random changes with no sources or notes as to why. — TAnthonyTalk 03:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now believable...I also read this on SoapZone. Such a waste in talent. 65852002o (talk) 05:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tobias Truvillion

message: Please stop removing red links from articles ... they are perfectly acceptable per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Red (internal) links and exist to encourage the creation of new articles. When these articles are created, the links to them are already in place. Obviously infant actors will probably not have articles anytime soon and can be unlinked, but an adult actor could presumably be deserving of an article at some point in the future. — TAnthonyTalk 17:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfect example: I just restored what were previously red links to the "Celebrity guests" section, and several links — including Kortney Kayle and Tito Puente, Jr. — now have articles. It would have been helpful if they had already been linked. — TAnthonyTalk 17:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't really see it as a big deal one way or the other.  When stubs are created, new links can be created easily enough.  Why is it an issue? --Elonka 03:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Red links

message: The actor and actress who plays Mac and Lowice are *not* recurring cast members.  They are walk on day players who, every few years, may appear to add propping to the scene for two to three minutes.  
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a meticulously detailed fan site.  To consistently include them on the list is not only inaccurate…but it is also a misrepresentation of the cast and adds clutter up the article…and the way it’s done borders on vandalism by these anonymous IP addresses (all sock puppeted by the same user…who would probably be taken more seriously if he created an actual I.D.), who for the past year has been continually doing it.
I’d hate to have to have this article locked, because there are a number of editors here who genuinely care about the integrity of it…and with the ever changing casting climate, it needs to be able to be edited according…but something has to give.
IMO any actor and/or character who isn’t recognized somewhere (even in the credits of other characters…like REAL recurring entities such as Jack Manning) on the cast list of ABC’s One Life to Live site IMO is questionable in their deserving to be acknowledged here.
Suggestions/Votes?—The Real One Returns (talk) 22:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that you are absolutely mistaken. Achelis and Sklar appear every few months, not every few years. They are cast members wheather you like it or not. I'm just putting credit where credit is due, and if that is hard for you to believe, well then I apologize.00:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind them being on the list or not, but they do appear so infrequently (and are so minor) that it seems silly to keep them on this "active" list. They are both listed in List of One Life to Live characters, isn't that enough? — TAnthonyTalk 06:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fair. —The Real One Returns (talk) 06:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The constant adding of “Lowice” and “Mac” to this list…

message: I was checking the most recent issue of ABC SID and it mentioned that this actress was joining the show, not necessarily in a contract role. It said that she was rumoured that she was to play a character named Juliana, but that is uncertain. It was also stated that she would have something to do with Vincentès exit. I was just curious as to why that actress was not mentioned in the list. Has she already left the show?76.67.137.26 (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She hasn't aired yet. — TAnthonyTalk 01:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dewanda Wise 

message: Being that there are extras in practically every episode, and they are normally only in one scene to top it off, does anyone else think that they should be removed from the comings and goings? --OLTL2002 (talk) 00:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, this isn't a Soap Opera Digest list of every person connected to the show, there has to be some notability involved. As it is, I think "Comings and Goings" information is too volatile and ever-changing to be tracked here. An encyclopedia is supposed to be a stable source of facts, not a newswire. — TAnthonyTalk 01:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extras 

message: Hey 
It's not Stanley Lowell it's Stan Lowell, who cares if Dorian Cramer said Stanley, it's Stan. P.J. (talk) 02:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, I had forgotten about Kevin O'Rourke's May 30, 2007 appearance. However, I was referring to whenever he popped up last February during the Go Red Ball. Dorian called him "Stanley", therefore meaning that his name is Stanley. Never was he referred to as "Stan". Stan is short for Stanley. Am I making my point clear? --OLTL2002 (talk) 03:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right about "nobody hardly uses their full name", but the Mayor was never referred to as Stan. --OLTL2002 (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we obviously can't agree on anything at all, why don't we just leave it as "Mayor Lowell"? Thank you. --OLTL2002 (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stan Lowell 

message: Tess and Bess are sidebars to the overall Jessica character.  There is no need to specifically list them as seperate entities on the cast/character table any more than there would be to do the same with Viki's bouts with alternate personalities, or Todd/TSJ's stint as Walker Laurence.  It is being too meticulous with detail and adds clutter to the article.  Also, listing "2007-2008, 2008, 2008-" for Moe and Noelle, quite frankly, looks silly.  A simple '2007-present' works.  Just wanted to bring this up for conversation before I went and edited the page. - The Real One Returns (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholeheartedly agree; I am constantly frustrated by editors who could be putting their interest and knowledge to good use actually expanding and improving articles, but instead fixae on this kind of minutae. I actually thing the "Comings and goings" section should be removed altogether, and the list just be updated when people actually come and go, but obviously everyone here seems so used to it, and they think this is Soap Opera Digest. Guess what folks, it's not. — TAnthonyTalk 17:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If I may say, I think that it should be noted that they did leave at one time this year, but as for the three or so returns over the summer, that should be left out.--OLTL2002 (talk) 21:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Being too meticulous with detail 

message: Please reference the link that supposedly confirms that Evans is returning.  Simply noting "Reported in a Canadain publication" is not cohesive enough and sounds too vague. - The Real One Returns 01:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrea Evans 'Spring 2009' return 

message: Why is Kamar de los Reyes and Jacqueline Hendy in the contract section when they are leaving the show? They should be in the comings and goings section and not in the contract section. It doesn't make sense to have them both in the the contract and the comings and goings section. Also BethAnn Bonner is not leaving the show, that was just a rumor. If you want proof here you go. "There have been internet reports that BethAnn Bonner (Talia Sahid) could be leaving the show, but BethAnn's camp told Soaps.com, "As of this point, we haven't heard anything to that effect." http://www.soaps.com/onelifetolive/comings_and_goings/. I just put a reference there of Bonner's exit. So why is she in the comings and goings section?
69.11.254.98 (talk) 00:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: PJ, does it matter? It is not hurting anyone or anything to have them in both places if that's what the editor trend is right now. They are still on the show and so belong in the regular cast section for readers who may not keep up with the day to day cast changes. As I've said many times before, I actually object to the "Comings and Goings" section entirely because Wikipedia is not Soap Opera Digest, and articles should be stable collections of facts rather than constantly-changing bulletin boards for current events. The information in "Comings and Goings" is constantly in flux and only notable for days at a time, and no one is coming here for that kind of news. The main lists should be updated the day someone actually joins or leaves a show or changes status in some other way, rather than the "latest soap news" thing going on right now with all the shows. But I must remind myself that most of the soap-related "editors" around here are merely anxious fans making silly contributions for the sake of feeling like a part of the show, rather than those desiring to improve the quality of information about these series.— TAnthonyTalk 00:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comings and Goings 

message: This is the reason for talk pages, to discuss things. Something that no one has appeared to do prior to changing the appearance of the table. These things can't just be done because an editor 'likes' it this way. There is no need to change this, unless it benefits the article. Opinions and thoughts? Thank you! --OLTL2002 (talk) 18:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fine the way it is. No need for smaller text, especially when people have reading text that small. A lot of other soap operas already follow this default format, so no need to complicate it or stylize it either. It also makes for easier edits with adding or removing credible information for new comers to Wikipedia. --Yllianos (talk) 01:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: It's been months since they were last on, and no spoilers claim any forthcoming appearances. - The Real One Returns 05:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why this is an issue. They've both been on since Patricia Mauceri has, but there doesn't seem to be any argument that she is still on. They both are on recurring status, and can appear at any time. I think they should be left there for the time being. --OLTL2002 (talk) 02:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's vague as hell.   By that criteria, we can still keep David Chisum listed in the recurring section as Miles Laurence, since it was never officially stated that he left, even though it's now been years since he was last seen.  Hell, NP was never officially confirmed as having left the first time he did.  His character just quietly faded away.  Imagine if he had been kept credited as "recurring" in all that time.  What a farce, I mean at what point should they be considered gone?  What, in your opinion, does it take to reach that conclusion?  You can't have an actor go months without being features, and their character completely disengaged from the canvas, and still credit them as cast members.  That's silly.  Ilene Kristen, Patricia Mauceri, Patricia Elliot, etc. all still have a real lingering presence, even if they go weeks without being seen.  Characters played by recurring actors need to have that...otherwise keeping them listed in that recurring section becomes a bogus, inaccurate representation of the cast, and clutters up the article.   As I said, there's been no word that Purdee or Stickney are slated to make returns anytime soon, and none of the shows current stories involve their characters, either directly or indirectly.  —  The Real One Returns  12:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely understand what you're saying, but it has only been two months since they have been seen. Most of the people listed as 'recurring' go longer without being seen, such as Peter Bartlett, and at times Pamela Payton-Wright. I think that they should be left there for just a little while longer. --OLTL2002 (talk) 18:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Nathan Purdee and Timothy Stickney still be listed as 'recurring'? 

message: The new character Dr. Wright will be played by KearraN Giovanni...not Kearra Giovanni  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.180.191 (talk) 02:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The cited source spells it the way we have here, do you have your own reliable, verifiable source? — TAnthonyTalk 03:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The new Character Dr. Wright  

message: The removal of red links has been talked about here. As for Scott Evans, there are no sources that indicate that he is contract. If one can't be found, he should be left in the recurring list. Thank you! --OLTL2002 (talk) 02:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Links/Scott Evans contract? 

message: Mark Lawson is linked wrong, on the current contract cast list, it's linked to the English journalist and not the actor himself. Just thought that error could be fixed. 71.90.0.115 (talk) 20:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Lawson linked wrong 

message: The comings and goings are beginning to get too long and excessive. Is there any way that this can be cut back on? It is actually getting a bit ridiculous, honestly. --OLTL2002 (talk) 22:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You know me, I've grown to hate this section, as Wikipedia is not meant to be an up-to-the-minute news reporting system (do we think people actually come here first looking to see who is coming and going?). I would boldly remove the section entirely, but all the soaps have them and the fanboys/fangirls who can't spell just LOVE them ;) I'm sure there's a policy that would justify such a change, I'll look into it when I get the chance. I just thing enforcing it would be a hassle. I honestly don't even look much at the changes here because it's such a volatile page.— TAnthonyTalk 01:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

text: BTW, has Lionel Richie actually appeared as yet? I must've missed that one.— TAnthonyTalk 21:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comings and goings 

message: Far as I heard, she was only slated for that guest appearance a few weeks ago.  I haven't heard anything about her having any more episodes coming up, or making any more appearances at all in the foreseeable future.  - The Real One Returns  21:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Catherine Hickland be listed as recurring? 

message: Shane Morasco is STILL a contracted cast member.  There has not been any news otherwise.  Just because he is a child does not make him a recurring member.  In addition, he is still featured in the opening credits.
PLEASE unlock this page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jld005 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shane Morasco 

message: Please place her back as contract cast.  Where has it said that she is recurring?  THIS PAGE IS NOT ACCURATE!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jld005 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tika Sumpter 

message: It has been listed that she is leaving the show.  Please correctly list this.  Why are these pages locked?  Whoever locked this if you aren't going to update on a regular basis then you need to UNLOCK them so others can do it.  You don't own it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.176.53 (talk) 03:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florencia Lozano 

message: Now I don't know about this to be honest but the Format of the Comings and Goings Page should be about the actors not the characters, but Cloudkade11 claims that this format has to do with the characters, and he says that at the time of Michael McBain's recast the format was all wrong. According to who, him? There is already a character page, why make the cast section about the characters, shouldn't that be about the actors?? especially the comings and goings section, it says that Tom Degnan is returning to the role of Joey Buchanan, that's what it's saying to me. This would confuse alotta people. But he is returning on Wednesday so, I mean. YoungAndWise (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so everyone knows, YoungandWise uses extreme profanity and is beyond rude whenever challenged in a discussion. Proof on my talk page. So I don't see why anyone should even listen to this user. If another mature user came with the same topic, then I'll be open for discussion without any complaints. CloudKade11 (talk) 23:35, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Format of Comings and Goings 

message: Just making sure before we add it on Wednesday, but Degnan will be on contract, right? I remember reading that they were "searching for the contract role to play Joey" on soaps.com. Though, things might have changed since I last read it back in September. Does anyone know the true story here? CloudKade11 (talk) 00:45, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joey Buchanan on contract? 

message: Please change and add Terri Conn back to current contract list
CBRVA (talk) 18:01, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any reference for that? mabdul 18:14, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 22 October 2011 

message: Why was Terri Conn (Aubrey Wentworth) removed from the contract list? I know that the actress is not moving on with the show when it moves to its new online home early next year, but she should still be listed on the contract list since its obvious she's staying with the show until it ends it run on network tv in January 2012. The Aubrey Wentworth character should still also still have her own character page, and not be stuck in the miscellanious cast section.(talk) 23:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terri Conn still on the show 

message: Ok I wanna ge this straight, Eddie Alderson hasn't been on the credits on Friday's show along time from what I'm told, so what? Sean Ringgold has been on contract and he wasn't listed until the week of January 24, 2011. So does that mean he was recurring? He was signed to a contract last October, and in the opening sequence by December of last year. Therefore he's on contract, and he was listed in the contract section, from the way I see it, Eddie Alderson is still on contract, no matter if he's listed in the credits or not, is there a news article that says he's on recurring? I just got back online so I'm out of the loop here, I just don't see how ending credits of the show prove he went to recurring without any of the media. Plus he's coming back this month anyway. He's on the opening. 64.24.153.173 (talk) 06:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Alderson on Contract or Recurring? 

message: In regards to the recent edit war on this article, I just wanted to point out that Soap Opera Network, Soap Opera Digest, Soap Opera Weekly's and any other soap magazine that is not a fansite can all be considered as reliable sources depending on what is reported. 
I would stay away from from soap magazines when it comes to more general news such as the ending date of One Life to Live or the beginning date of The Revolution because theses kinds of news can easily be reported on ABC's official website or mainstream newspapers. But the three soap opera magazines are very good sources when it comes to document about actors that are leaving or going because theses types of news will never make it in the mainstream newspapers such as New York Times or Reuters. 
So to make a short story, it all comes down in using some judgement when sourcing on Wikipedia. If it's a general news (such as the ending date of One Life to Live), stick to ABC's website or the mainstream newspapers. If it's for actors that are coming and goings, you can use the three above soap magazines. But in any case, fansites (such as We Love Soaps) are almost never acceptable on Wikipedia.Farine (talk) 16:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit warring about sources

message: celebrity guest star is missing Kourtney Kardashian 2011
58.110.20.136 (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 5 November 2011 

message: Please add [Elise Goldsberry] as [Williamson] (2003-2007) and [Sumpter] as [Williamson] (2005-2011) to Former Characters.
HelloRex (talk) 03:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This page is no longer protected. Subject to consensus, you should be able to edit it yourself. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 00:16, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 13 April 2013 

message: They look silly with the "-2012, 2013-" marking. There is no need to include this, since the show was on off the air for a year. It gives the impression that the show was ongoing the whole time, and that these people all exited in 2012 and came back in 2013, when that is not what happened. Yoryla (talk) 12:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Made this change. And now it is being contested. But they portrayed the characters consecutively in both 2012 AND 2013, so the portrayal is continuous. If the series had ended in 2011, such as All My Children, then it would be stopped, then continued once more. All soap pages, and character pages are showcasing this decision, as should this page. livelikemusic my talk page! 14:49, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

text: The discussion is no longer happening on this talk page. Go to the soap page, and I am Musicfreak. That sounds kind of personal to me Soapfan. livelikemusic my talk page! 14:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And your attitude is kind of bad, still. You keep turning things into personal attacks, which you've been warned against. livelikemusic my talk page! 14:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

text: As decided at WP:SOAPS, a calendar year is 2012-13. That alone is ONE calendar year. A two calendar year would be 2012–14. It is not based off of the last air date of a series and/or character. Or each character would be listed differently. It goes off of the calendar. It's already been decided upon by the Wiki project. Think of it as the years together. 2012–13 is one, 2012–14 is two, etc. It goes off of the back-to-back numbers. livelikemusic my talk page! 20:20, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I participated in the WP:SOAPS discussion and it was agreed that breaks of one calendar year or less could be discounted (meaning if the year of departure and return are next to each other, regardless of the dates within those years). It doesn't mean an actor portrayed a character continuously, it just means that the character appeared in every year in the given time period. –anemoneprojectors– 23:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The cast list years 

message: I think the section titled "Before they were stars" should be merged with the main "Former cast" table. I think describing them as stars is all about a personal point of view. How many movies, hit TV shows or magazine covers do they have to appear on before they qualify for the "Before they were stars" section. There are no sources to prove they are really famous. And everyone is likely to have different views. Therefore who ever wants to add a name to the table, in theory would be allowed because they view them as becoming a "star" since leaving. I have only heard of Nathan Fillion, Bryan Cranston, Marcia Cross, Tommy Lee Jones, Ryan Phillipe and Hayden Panettiere. So I would have not made a long list. There could be someone else I have seen in two TV shows in New Zealand and I could argue they are total stars. POV issues. BLP issues too. Tagging people as stars - were they not famous while on the show?
I also think a separate section for listing dates of death for actors is pointless. What does it have to do with OLTL? Can they not just simply merge into the "Former cast" table too?
In addition - the "Celebrity guests" section. Were they all playing themselves?Rain the 1 22:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - those sections should be merged. The entire cast are "stars" because they all "star" in OLTL. –anemoneprojectors– 23:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yes! When you put it like that there is really no argument for not merging.Rain the 1 00:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. But like you, I've only heard of a handful of "stars" in that list. Cross, Jones, Phillipe, Panettiere, Yasmine Bleeth and Laurence Fishburne. The rest could be complete nobodies for all I know! Well, I now know who Bryan Cranston is, but I didn't know his name before just now! –anemoneprojectors– 19:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Before they were stars" and dead actors 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:All My Children cast members which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 20:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Hello. I'm starting a discussion to remove the "deceased cast members" section on this article and articles alike. Firstly, the section is trivia; a cast member being dead is not related to them appearing on this series. Even if they died while appearing on the series, that should be mentioned on their character/actor article, not here. Secondly, the section is unsourced. We have a responsibility to provide sources for contentious information, and date of death is certainly contentious. That being said, regardless of if an editor sourced every single death, it would still be trivia... Thirdly, linking actors numerous times is overlink. In conclusion, every cast member will be dead one day. How is that related to this article? – DarkGlow • 19:14, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deceased cast members