Talk:.460 Weatherby Magnum

message: The pages .460 Weatherby, and .460 Weatherby Magnum are about the same cartridge, they need to be merged. Klauth 08:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: This tagged has been removed due to this item being primarily a non-military related article.--Oldwildbill 12:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WPMILHIST

message: I yanked the Trivia section for two reasons. One it is not in conformity to the WikiProject Firearms which sights in the Guidelines “Avoid pop culture and trivia sections.”  Two, the trivia section had some vary dubious information, not sighted and was written from a non-Neutral Point Of View.
I decided to transfer the trivia section back to this talk page from a word processing document as a matter of civility. 
I rewrote the article on the .378 Weatherby Magnum per the ammunition stub for expounded subject matter. I have sighted as much as possible with footnotes. I think that should put the trivia section to rest.
If there is substantial protest I can repaste the trivia section back to the main page. If someone thinks that there is critical information within the trivia section I can research it and put it into the body of work. 
Greg Glover 02:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia section yanked

message: The section on Penetration controversy is entirely unsourced. We need to either get some sources behind it or remove it. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 21:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penetration Controversy 

message: We seem to have an inconsistent model for listing various measurements. Sometimes we have numbers in USA standard, sometimes metric/standard, sometimes standard/metric. If no one has any complaints, I suggest we switch to standard/metric using the convert template. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preferred units 

message: I am not sure if I should have included the discrepancies between the SAAMI and CIP dimensions but it is included to be factually complete. If there is disagreement regarding this, this section will need to be re-written. The diagram which I have included corresponds to SAAMI dimensions for a couple of reasons
* Weatherby has membership in SAAMI and the cartridges specification standardized by the organization.
* Weatherby conducts its business out of North America
Two dimensions which are not provided by Weatherby OR SAAMI appear in the diagram and are provided as a point of reference ONLY.  There two values are the S value and the shoulder angle (α), both appear as a broken line dimensions. These are not strictly speaking values provided by Weatherby for this cartridge. The S and α values in the diagram provided to show what the values would be. The S and α are CIP dimensions.
I need to hear from other readers/editors if these values should be provided or if the diagram should strictly show only what is strictly correct. Please leave some feedback regarding this issue.
I hope I am not adding more confusion to this subject.DeusImperator (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Crud - that's a tough one. Do any of your books about the .460 talk about the differences? AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the detailed cartridge diagrams published under the aegis  of the EU parliament for 2 years ago. Diagrams provided for them were by the CIP. SAAMI specs are provided by Barnes (latest diagrams) SAAMI has not updated public publications since 1992 but cartridge specs for the Weatherby line among others available to the SAAMI membership. Definite diffrences in dimensions but very small in the end. CIP file http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/images.nsf/files/B0E765375DA00143C2256FBE0032DD2A/$file/TABIIcal.pdf  DeusImperator (talk) 02:42, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

text: We could provide separate SAAMI and CIP specific diagrams as an option.  Any thoughts? DeusImperator (talk) 02:42, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAAMI vs CIP Dimensions 

message: Do you think the article should be expanded to include available ammunition?
If so it could look somewhat like this... Let me know if this works or change it so that it works. Please leave some feedback.
Weatherby provides three cartridge loadings for the .460 Weatherby Magnum. These are manufactured by Norma of Sweden and re-branded by Weatherby.
Weatherby Barnes TSX: Mono-metal expanding bullet made of copper with a better ballistic coefficient for longer range shooting of African dangerous game. Bullet used is the Barnes . TSX at  for  of energy.
Weatherby 500 gr. RN-EX: Uses the Hornady . DGX bullet a brass clad, steel jacketed, bonded lead bullet which provides a very slow controlled expansion. Ammunition is loaded to  for 7505 ftlb of energy.
Weatherby 500 gr. FMJ: This cartridge loading uses the Hornady  DGS bullet. It is non-expanding, brass clad, steel jacketed, bonded, lead bullet designed for African dangerous game in particular elephant. Ammunition is loaded to  for  of energy.
A-Square offers the Triad in the .460 Weatherby Magnum.
A-Square Lion Load: This is a rapidly expanding and fragmenting  bullet designed for close-in shooting of thin skinned game. Cartridge is loaded to  for  energy.
A-Square Dead Tough: A  controlled expansion, copper jacketed bonded core lead bullet designed for general purpose African dangerous game hunting. Cartridge is loaded to  for  energy.
A-Square Monolithic: This   non-expanding bullet is made of a single non-steel alloy designed for African dangerous game. The cartridge is loaded to  for  energy.
The Connelly Precision Cartridge Company loads ammunition specifically for the Weatherby line of cartridges. Currently, they offer eleven loadings for the .460 Weatherby Magnum. 
Connelly Precision Speer African Grand Slam: Cartridge is loaded with a non-expanding  copper jacketed tungsten core Speer bullet. Ammunition is loaded to velocity if  for  energy.
Connelly Precision Barnes Original: A conventional . copper jacketed expanding bullet loaded to  for  of energy.
DeusImperator (talk) 18:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: While it's potentially interesting, the only way we can include it is if we have some good sources talking about .460 ammo. Otherwise we're pretty much in the area of original research. So if we're careful, I'm all for it, but just doing a search for available ammo and then talking about each is probably outside the scope of what we should be doing. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Websites of these companies have the information. However, should there be an article other than the manufacturer's discussing this item?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeusImperator (talk • contribs) 06:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should a section about the available ammunition be included? 

message: Earlier this year an article appeared in a magazine discussing the issues with bullets driven at Weatherby velocities which discusses the criticism noted in the main article. The magazine was handed to me by a colleague but since been lost when I dumped 20 years of gun mags out to clear come space. Does anyone recall the name and the issue date of the magazine?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeusImperator (talk • contribs) 03:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Article appeared in Outdoors Canada. Does anyone know the issue date and the article name?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeusImperator (talk • contribs) 01:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for Magazine publication and date 

message: Does anyone have any recommendations, or any other topic that if fit for discussion regarding the 460 Weatherby?  Thanks in advance DeusImperator (talk) 16:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anything else worth discussing about the cartridge? 

message: There is an error in the image in the Infobox. On the right margin of the image is a metric ruler to show the scale of the cartridges being compared.  The ruler reads "1 cm, 2 cm...8 cm, 8 cm". The second "8 cm" should be corrected to "9 cm". 96.236.213.217 (talk) 13:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction to image needed 

message: There is a dead citation link to the SAAMI website, and I was unable to find an archived version of the document in any internet archives.  The only thing I didn't do was reach out to the SAAMI org to see if they have a copy since they don't have a method of contact on their website.  Since the content/context of the citation seems important to the article, I'm leaving it in place per WP:KDL but I wanted to make a note for any future editors fighting WP:LINKROT.  Clifflandis (talk) 15:21, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving the permanently dead citation link