Talk:Tin foil hat/Archive 1

message: I don't like the implication that being concerned about Echelon automatically labels someone as stereotypically paranoid. I have no trouble with the idea that paranoid people are stereotypically concerned about being watched (e.g. the TV is looking back at them), I just don't like this example. I haven't changed the article as I thought I'd see if anyone agrees first. - S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.45.172 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 10 May 2003
: So what are the non-stereotypically paranoid fears of echelon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.151.11 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 14 May 2003
:: Ummm - how about the erosion of civil liberties that routine surveillance of private communications implies? That is a real concern, and is definitely not something that can be dismissed as "paranoia". Graham 06:55, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Echelon reference

message: 3M Velostat would probably be ineffective. It is a conductive packing material designed to prevent packaging friction induced static electricity build-up which can damage electronic components. The film of conducting material is very thin and would probably not stop external electromagnetic radiation. There was a story some years ago of airline pilots lining their caps with tinfoil to counter the effects of increased particle bombardment at higher altitudes. Some science in that, but the protection would be negligible compared to the thickness of the skin of the plane. Probably just airline urban legend, like the flight-attendants who started growing feathers instead of body hair. Anjouli 06:59, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Velostat 

message: I added a notice about the appearace of tinfoil hats in "signs", I don't know if that's where if came from originally though, feel free to correct em on that one and just change it toa  mention that it's appeared there. --Obli 21:43, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin in ''Signs'' 

message: Replaced "as with all pseudoscience, there is a kernel of truth or reason" with "as with much pseudoscience, there is a kernel of truth or reason".  I continue to believe that the devils are in the details. --Moiche 04:07, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pseudoscience section 

message: Anyone have any idea how this reference first started?  --Viriditas 09:45, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The earliest comment I can remember was from a silly movie called "Love Sick" (1983) where Dudley Moore plays a physchiatrist in love with one of his patients (played by Elizabeth McGovern).  One of his other patients is a homeless guy who is convinced that the CIA, FBI, DOD, space aliens, etc are transmitting messages into his head.  Moore gives him a piece of aluminum foil to play the rays. --Amcalabrese 19:56, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think in the classic 1967 film "They Came From Beyond Space" there is a reference.  As I recall, the aliens that land in the moon-meteor thing zap people with blue cosmic rays which control their minds.  You had to wear metal hats to block them. --FForeclosers 20:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the Tin-foil hat 

message: I have removbed the stuffed toy image that previously illustrated this page. Tin-foil hats are a deadly serious issue for those paranoid individuals who wear them; many of them are sufferers from schizophrenia, a severe mental illness. This is a serious subject, and cuddly toy illustrations are not appropriate. We can, and should, report on the mockery of the wearers of tin-foil hats that is the most common meme regarding them -- we should not, however, take part in it. -- The Anome 11:58, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the stuffed toy image 

message: Imperfections in conductivity mean that there is no such thing as a perfect Faraday cage.
Superconductor are known to offer no electrical resistance, thus allowing perfect Faraday Cage. 
In addition, a Supraconductor actively excludes magnetic fields from its interior; this is called the Meissner effect. One of the theoretical explanations of the Meissner effect comes from the London equation. It shows that the magnetic field decays exponentially inside the superconductor over a distance of 20-40 nm. It is described in terms of a parameter called the London penetration depth.
Therefore, a Supraconductor Faraday Cage might provide perfect shielding against both electric and magnetic fields.
Related Link:
The Meissner Effect.
--203.198.113.49 03:26, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meissner effect and perfect Supraconductor Faraday Cage. 

message: Ive been wearing the aluminum paper liner to a package of corn pops I find that it blocks much psychic communication which makes the user feel like a Z I urge anyone with patterned thoughts to wear a tinfoil hat.  My particular issue is a bit like Asimov's character the Mule that is able to use psychic powers to overstimulate a technician to produce valuable technologies. Anyway during the 20th century there were up to 2 million United states schizophrenics I think te effect of the tinfoil hat is beneficial if the wearers believe n the rest of society just says "well, even a placebo makes a difference"
Treon Verdery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.121.98.54 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 11 January 2005
: When designing experiments, modelling proteins or writing computer programmes, I regularly wear a tin foil hat and this helps concentrate my cerebral vibrations and block extraneous mental signatures from interfering with my thought processes. In fact, my scientific career is quite reliant on regular tin-foil hat wearing and I am quite offended at some editors suggestions that I am a nut!!!! mxpule 22:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I wear a tinfoil hat 

message: Why does the "See Also" list have a link to biophoton? -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:28, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Antaeus, do you were a tinfoil hat? --AI 03:14, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe you mean "wear", AI?  As for whether I wear one, or have ever worn one, perhaps you could explain how there would be any possible relevance to the answer, whether it be "yes" or "no". -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please put it back on. --AI 21:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

text:  Read the biophoton article and you'll understand why someone wants to link the article with the tinfoil hat article. Pseudoscience breeds more pseudoscience. --AI 03:45, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Reading the biophoton article was the first step I took when I started to wonder "What's the connection between biophotons and tin-foil hats?"  I can certainly imagine why someone might want to associate the concept of the biophoton with the tin-foil hat (very nearly the emblem of delusional crank "science").  But that reason really doesn't seem sufficient reason to keep the link, so I was asking if anyone had a better reason.  If I had gotten one (for instance, if it turned out that some believers in biophotons advocated tin-foil hats to keep good biophotons in and bad biophotons out) that would have given us an avenue to improve one or both articles by making the connection clearer.  As it is, though, it seems like someone just wanted to mock the biophoton concept, and though I frankly suspect that biophotons are typical crank pseudoscience, that's not the way Wikipedia should work. -- Antaeus Feldspar 23:01, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Antaeus, this entire article is dubious. --AI 23:11, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You've been challenged to detail that assertion and not once have you actually substantiated. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Antaeus, put your tin foil hat back on. --AI 17:17, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

text:  I can't see anything dubious about the article. It is certainly widely attested that some people use the hat in the belief that it will protect them from various phenomona. ~~~~ 08:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

text:  P.s. Al, you will read Wikipedia:No personal attacks and desist from commenting against Antaeus. ~~~~ 08:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biophoton?