Talk:Chaminade High School

message: Like many pages you are lacking references for your page. This stopping you getting a "B". Your alumni list (unreferenced) gets you a "mid". Needs someone/a team to concentrate on improving this page. Good luck, Victuallers 10:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Schools Assessment

message: I think that the sources for these statements is on the website. I shall edit this page tommrow to reflect this--WngLdr34 05:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Citations

message: How could Collin Finnerty possibly not be considered as notable alumni?
*Previous deletion debate
There was another Chaminade High School in Dayton Ohio, but I think it changed its name to Chaminade-Julienne after merging with the local Catholic girls school. I believe there's at least one more Chaminade HS (in St. Louis??). Any current students or recent alums care to add to this article? --Marj 20:15, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Collin Finnerty

message: Current revision as I write: Pope John Paul II has referred to Chaminade High School as the best Catholic high school in the United States for raising young men in their faith."
Does he really choose favorites among Catholic high schools? Quick google check couldn't confirm this (or disconfirm, but it's so hard to believe...) The quote here originates from the first version of this article by anon IP 143.115.159.54. Assuming the article survives vfd, I'm going to delete that item a few days if nobody comes forward with a citation. Samaritan 00:54, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Or leaven it, assuming he's probably said something quite laudatory about the school that might just have been overstated. Samaritan 05:35, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Sez you.  Until the info is forthcoming, this bit of PR will be deleted. Eleemosynary 10:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Papal preference 

message: I don't believe any one Chaminade Man is more notable than another.  Here is my suggestion, remove this section.--Ctparadise 13:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: :Chaminade High School is a Roman Catholic high school for young Catholic men (emphasis mine)
Are there any non-Catholic students enrolled? --131.238.207.185 21:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "...priority of admissions is given to baptized members of the Roman Catholic Church. Enrollment is open to young men of all faiths as resources permit, with the priority given to Catholic students." Info999 15:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: this can be found at http://chaminade-hs.org/about_us/philosophy.jsp
Info999 02:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Catholic Enrollment

message: Not sure if it's relevant enough to be mentioned on this page, but Newsday featured an article about CHS hiring Finnerty as an assistant lacrosse coach. Socby19 19:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Colin Finnerty

message: Collin Finnerty is a notable alumnus of Chaminde High School in Mineola, NY.
Why would he be notable? Because he was involevd in a rape scandal, that turned out to be false? Just because a person is in the news doesn't make them notable. He maybe infamous but he did not achieve success in a chosen field nor do anything positive or successful, at least not yet! Dantali (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colin Finnerty 

message: I have moved the following material here:
:"In the summer of 2006, secretary to the President Lynn Creamer brought a lawsuit against Chaminade High School for gender discrimination , after she was fired for having a relationship with a male faculty member who was still married. The male teacher was not fired. The lawsuit also stated that a priest had stared at her breasts and that a camera was set up in the boys locker room. The case was settled outside of court."
The link to the New York Post isn't working and the main source does not meet WP:RS. There are also WP:BLP concerns. This must stay out unless reliably sourced. Bridgeplayer 04:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The link is to a blog reposting of the article with numerous comments at the bottom.  For potentially blp violating concerns this needs to stay out until you get get a better source link, at the very least.  --Rocksanddirt 15:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I fixed the inline ref.  This still sucks.  If a source for the resolution of the case can't be found, rephrase the text.  --Rocksanddirt 15:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A cite to a newspaper article meets :WP:RS without a live internet link (I removed the dead link at least once). Unless there are allegations that the newspaper article doesn't say what the article reports it as saying, the item should stay. (I've since added links to two articles online, one live and one retrieved from a Google cache).--Orange Mike 15:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the first part is fine now.  The second and third parts of the paragraph need sources.  1) for the breast and locker room comments, and 2) for the resolution of the case.  Otherwise I would lose those last two sections of the paragraph as they just become inflamatory.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocksanddirt (talk • contribs) 15:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok, I'm fine, the resolution of the case is not as big a deal as unsubstantiated allegations of really poor behavior.  --Rocksanddirt 15:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I am shocked to see that once again someone is vandalizing this page. I have added back the lawsuit with all 3 credible sources which makes it the most backed-up claim on this entire page. If anyone attempts to delete it again I think they should be banned. This is an outrage and I expect better. The lawsuit did happen and there are no wrong claims made. Please check the 3 links for yourself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.137.24 (talk) 16:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit 

message: At one time, all CHS students took Latin for first 2 years. Second year was Latin + Sp or Fr or Grmn - NO Science that year. What % take Latin now? What does text mean by "Earth Science (orOceanography)"[sic] - are they alternative courses or does someone think Oceanography and Earth Science are the same?--JimWae 05:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin & Science 

message: Why are people re-adding the information about Murphy which is completely unsourced. Even if it were sourced we would have a problem with this info as Murphy stronglyu objects to his inclusion on wikipedia, he considers it stalking, and just because his article is kept does not mean we can stalk him by adding inforamtion to wikipedia that has nothing to do with his career as a producer. But lets get a source before anything else as unsourced the information is a gross violation of WP:V, SqueakBox 18:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Strongly objects"? "Stalking"?! Even if true, Murphy needs to get a grip; probably a case of "Do you know who I am?" syndrome, Hollywood variety. He has no right to control over this or any other article. If the article about Murphy himself is unsourced or poorly written, then do something about that article (I already trimmed a peacockish reference to a project that never got made). In the meantime, he's a relevant alumnus. I see no reason to delete his name. --Orange Mike 18:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Might want to add a probable WP:BAN reasoning to that Squeak as the new editor who originally added it is now blocked as a  puppet.--Isotope23 talk 18:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: No you must source first and then add the cite, until you sopurce BLP empoweers me to remove the link as often as need be, we do not add unsourced info about naybody so please desist in doing so. If you check the Murphy article you will see that I ahve edited a lot. Also who are you to declare whether Murphy is being stalked or not? We are not here to trash or out people but to write a decent encyclopedia of referenced material, SqueakBox 18:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually only 2 of those listed are sourced... most of that section should be wiped out for lacking sources.--Isotope23 talk 18:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd suport that, and should check up on my old schopol which I have a feeling has similar issues, propbably many schoolsd do but sourcing is vital for living people especially and people can be funny about the school they went to or opnes they didnt, etc, SqueakBox 19:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll certainly back anybody who calls for application of the Verifiability principle. It's the idea that Murphy has the right to claim "stalking" because he doesn't like the inclusion of neutral information in this encyclopedia; that kind of arrogance makes me puke. I'll agree to your call for verification, but if somebody can verify, then the information goes back in. In the meantime, let's clean up the article on this guy, which seems to have verifiability problems of its own. --Orange Mike 19:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I've removed all of the unsourced listings (here is a diff if anyone wants to go through and try and source them).--Isotope23 talk 15:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be done evreywhere really. I've done the same for my old school and perhaps there should be a project or soemthing? SqueakBox 15:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remove uncited "notable alumni" lists where I see them, but I don't think anyone is making a daily practice of looking for this stuff.--Isotope23 talk 16:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes well I will do the same now though if every editor started with their old school that would be a start, SqueakBox 16:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody notable went to my high school, so "done".--Isotope23 talk 17:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well according to his latest entry at WR if he is to have an article Murphy says he wants tyo be here so I have re-added his name top the alumni but with a source, SqueakBox 16:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Murphy

message: http://www.alphonsedamato.net/
Also 2 previously listed are no longer alive - their sources are easily found, as are most, if not all, of the others--JimWae 18:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well we have an edit button so for each alumni for wehom we have a reliable source we can add them again, SqueakBox 18:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Works for me. Please feel free to add Glenn back in then, with that cite, in proper format. You can copy how the other alumni that were cited properly were done and just change the relevant info. Thanks for digging that cite up. ++Lar: t/c 20:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: If you are confident of the sources, feel free to add the info yourself. Is there a reason you didn't want to do that? ++Lar: t/c 14:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni sources 

message: I just pulled a lot of alumni in this edit
Don Murphy's source doesn't count. It's a wikipedia mirror. We've been over this before... The rest, I suspect we have some folks having some fun here. I may have pulled a real one or two. If so, find a source and put them back. But... The Incredible Hulk? Cookie Monster? Berenstein Bears? I don't think so. There has been a steady stream of edits here that are interfering with the bots attempts to revert to good versions. I think it may be advisable to cut the whole article back down to a stub, semi protect it, and try again. (oh and leave out the bits about "they killed off the prom because they weren't getting any action" while we're at it... :) ) ++Lar: t/c 01:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of spoof/dubious alumni 

message: The removal isn't warranted.  Even if the allegations are completely bogus and that can be sourced, that just means the latest sources and text to that effect should be incorporated, not that the section should be removed.  Regardless of the merits of the case, the lawsuit happened.  Removing the cited text is akin to white-washing.--Isotope23 talk 15:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Spot on. If the lawsuit was noteworthy before, it will still be noteworthy whether or not it turns out to be false. The anon needs to stop removing the whole section without discussion here. ++Lar: t/c 04:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of lawsuit allegations

message: and a succession of anonymous editors have been adding text about competitive sausage-eating competitions at the school. I've got a number of concerns about this:
:#There's no reliable source to back the claim up.
:#It's an intramural competition and isn't really all that encyclopedic.
:#Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it feels like prank text.
Is there any reason this text should be in the article, and if so, what reliable sources support it? —C.Fred (talk) 04:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Competitive eating? 

message: The lawsuit was initiated by the secretary because she said she was "fired." However, she failed to report to work for six weeks, and was thus considered a non-employee by the school. This was construed as getting fired. Also, the NY Post isn't exactly the most reliable source in my opinion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.201.172 (talk) 03:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Offer another source. NickCT (talk) 03:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lawsuit

message: It appears that most educational institutions, including noteworthy high schools, have their school crest or shield as the head image on the info box on Wikipedia.  It also appears that if used in this instance, Wikipedia has been considering it fair use and not a violation of copyright law.  I recommend that we move the image of the facade of Chaminade to the bottom of the info box and place an image of the school crest (i.e., the crossed torch and cross) at the top of the info box.  If there is reason that this should not be done, please elaborate. --Yuristache (talk) 07:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Crest/Shield 

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