Talk:Panama Canal Railway

message: The terms railroad and railway are synonims, the former used in the United States, the latter in Britain. The Panama Railroad was American-built. Its builders were not likely to use the term railway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Adler (talk • contribs) 06:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just had a look and there appears to have been a redirect/alias back in December 2003—which seems to have served quite well in that time.  The name of the current operating company/organisation uses Railway, so I'm be tempted to leave the article as is—the railway is not controlled by the United States anymore, so to force a rename with US-nomenclature could potentially be considered politically insensitive to local naming practice.  —Sladen (talk) 14:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Should be renamed Panama Railroad

message: See Rail tracks.
Tabletop (talk) 08:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "U" rail aka "Bridge" rail 

message: According to the second sentence in the lead of this article:
:  As of 2008 it is jointly owned by the Kansas City Southern Railway and Panama Holdings, LLC. 
and then lower down in the "Post Panama Canal" section we find:
:  On 19 June 1998 the government of Panama turned over control to the private Panama Canal Railway Company ("PCRC"), a joint venture between the Kansas City Southern Railroad and privately held Lanigan Holdings, LLC.
yet according to the company's web page at  we find that:
: On February 17, 1998, The Panama Canal Railway Company, a joint venture between Kansas City Southern, a U.S. Class I Railroad, and Mi-Jack Products, North America’s leading independent intermodal terminal operator, was awarded a 50-year concession to rebuild and operate the line.
The three statements do not seem to agree with each other.  Have the same two companies run CPRC continously since 1998? What became of Panama Holdings LLC?  Is Mi-Jack Products still helping to operate the CPRC?  Is Lanigan Holdings LLC still helping to operate the CPRC?  Should both sentences in this wikipedia article be altered to reflect what the company's website states? 67.86.73.252 (talk) 01:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ownership, operating leases, and dates of transfer 

message: What was gauge of the extensive construction railways for the Panama Canal?    Tabletop (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction Gauge 

message: Once the United States settled into the canal's construction and after failure of a commission system the company and canal construction became entirely efforts of the United States Department of War which had close oversight of the Zone through WW II. This aspect is nearly completely unaddressed in the text. I've added one note and a reference with the most succinct statement of this fact, but there are multiple sources detailing issues and how the company operated during this period. Palmeira (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership by War Department completely neglected 

message: A significant subsidiary of the railroad was the associated shipping line, Panama Railroad Steamship Line, that operated a number of notable ships both in support of the canal (personnel and freight) and as a passenger line. A number of notable ships (SS Ulysses (1914), SS Ancon (1901), USS Ancon (AGC-4), SS Panama (1939) link to the article yet only yield a rail/rolling stock centric content without context to the shipping operations. 71.178.17.34 (talk) 11:17, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shipping line and ships almost totally neglected 

message: The section on an alleged electrification project seems to be completely made up, just like the weirdly specific and nonsensical “future rolling stock” section. No such project seems to be planned, and no order or ordering intention has been placed or publicized for the 5 locomotives or 7 train sets (which does not even make any sense when buying only 5 locomotives).200.108.63.214 (talk) 18:29, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, this lacks reliable sources, so I've removed it. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 19:22, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electrification? 

message: Could you elaborate on the rationale behind your proposed split? I could see the merit in splitting between the historic railroad and the post 2001 operation, is that what you are proposing? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I was meaning splitting the '1855 Panama Railroad' section into a separate article, since the route substantially changed in 1904. Commons has two separate categories for these. See :commons:Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/11/Category:Panama Railroad for motivation: I was confused by this there, and the multiple Commons categories in this article, and would like to see this more clearly described here (but don't know enough about the topic to do so myself). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's an excellent point. I'm not 100% sold on splitting out the article, but you're absolutely right there should be a much clearer description and distinction between the railroad before the canal, and after the canal was built. Length wise, we are at around 5,500 words, which isn't terrible, but long enough that a split is certainly possible. The lead doesn't even mention the rebuild at all! I'll look into this today. Thank you for bringing this up, it's clearly a long standing issue. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:56, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal 

message: M 95.85.104.140 (talk) 09:36, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  863783505 

message: I was just in Panama and poked around the train "stations" (they are just platforms) in both Panama City and Colón. There is no passenger service and it looks like there hasn't been for many months. People I asked say it was discontinued at the start of covid and never resumed. I saw no indication that there are plans to start it back up.
The web site is still up, and still has a timetable and fares listed. I have been unable to find any RS that says the service is discontinued. GA-RT-22 (talk) 13:34, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is no passenger service