Talk:Winchester rifle

message: What's going on with the plant closure section? Should things like this just be deleted? --Squirrelfisher 20:29, 09 Dec 2006 (EST)
agh at least you can read this now -- im a little worred about the source however --Davelane 23:24, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Plant closure

message: "Millions of '92's have been made, and although Winchester phased them out several decades ago, they are still being made under the Puma label by an Italian arms maker."
The Puma is made by the Brazilian company Amadeo Rossi: http://www.rossi.com.br/
Legacy Sports used the Puma brandname on 1892 clones made by Amadeo Rossi; the Puma Brand rifles sold by Legacy today are made by Chiappa in Italy. Naaman Brown (talk) 01:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  the '92 clone Puma is not Italian made 

message: "In the movie Babel, two boys test the range of a Winchester rifle in the Moroccan desert, and in an instant, the lives of four separate groups of strangers on three different continents collide."
Seriously, does that sound a little off to anyone else? --72.155.176.252 21:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sheesh. That was put in by the movie's publicity department, wasn't it?  Trekphiler 23:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sounds like a line from a movie trailer 

message: I deleted this:
:"Marlin Firearms, also of New Haven, labored for a century as an underdog levergun maker to Winchester's number one. However, in the 1980s and 1990s, the current incarnation of Marlin finally began to outpace its old rival. It is currently the dominant seller of lever action rifles in North America. Its use of side ejection allows for flat-topped firearms, thereby making the mounting of scopes far easier than for traditional Winchesters. This helped Marlin capture more market share as American shooters came to rely more and more on optics. Marlins are also larger and stronger than most of the Winchester line, allowing them to take advantage of revolutionary new magnum-level versions of such cartridges as the .45-70.
While true, it's not about Winchester. If anybody thinks it's worth saving, move it to the Marlin page.  --The Rifleman 23:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agreed, so I copied it over. We'll see how it fares. Gzuckier 15:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hooking a Marlin

message: I've embarked upon an extensive re-writing of this article, which I'm sure you can agree was in dire need of attention. I'm not a Winchester firearms historian, however, so if anyone with more knowledge on the subject wants to help out, that would be muchly appreciated! --Commander Zulu 07:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Re-Write

message: This article and the companion article on the company repeat the erroneous statement that Olin bought winchester in 1963. Wrong- by three decades.  Olin bought the bankrupt Winchester Repeating Arms Co in 1931, and president John Olin saw it through some of its best years.  The '64 disaster was just another example of the pernicious MBA-itis that ruined so many great American manufacturers at the time (Fender and Gibson guitars, for example).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solicitr (talk • contribs) 04:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We just need sources to reference. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 17:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No takeover in '63 

message: Would anyone object if I reorganized the bolt-action section to use the same format as that on levers?  Ultimately I suppose this article should include autos and pump rifles as well- and perhaps give the shotguns their own article?--Solicitr (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolt-action rifles 

message: theres nothing in here about the 200 series winchester rifles?
does anybody know enough to write about them?
::Really they are not very notable. I remember them being listed in catalogues, in 1974 when I joined a Winchester lever-action rifle club. They were not allowed in club events because they did not have an exposed hammer. In the years since then I have only seen one or two, and almost never did they get comment in the shooting press.ChrisPer (talk) 02:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has undergone a lot of mission creep. Originally it just covered Winchester's classic leverguns. Then bolt-actions got added, and shotguns, and so on.  Myself I'd cut the article off at 1963, but I suppose it's too late for that.Solicitr (talk) 13:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 290???

message: Please include details about the use of the Winchester Model 1873 rifle by the Chilean and Spanish cavalry.
Also, please include information about the employment of Winchester rifles during the War of the Pacific (1879-1884), the Mexican Revolution and World War I.
Finally, please include information about the use of Winchester rifles by Cuban and Philippine guerillas in the late 19th century.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.227.200 (talk) 10:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure ANY of this belongs in the article. Maybe in the respective articles about each rifle, but not here. At best it should be noted that Winchesters were shipped all around the world and sold to the governments of many nations to be used by the military. I own such a rifle, an M1873 Lever Action Musket that was sold to the Argentine government for use in their Army, but never issued. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Use by military forces

message: I have become the owner of a Winchester saddle ring model 1888.  This is in 32-20 and was manifactured in 1917.  I don't see this model in the Winchester model listings, how come?  David  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.122.12 (talk) 05:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure it's not a Model 1886? Or a Marlin '88? To the best of my knowledge the only "Model 1888" Winchester ever made was a reloading tool. --Solicitr (talk) 04:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1917, the 32-20 would have been chambered in an 1892 Winchester. I suspect that if you think its a Winchester but its really a Marlin 1888 (Which does exist unlike a Winchester 1888) then you may need to look up the date of manufacture again - is it from a Winchester reference book, webpage or from reading a patent date off the barrel? If it is a Marlin, it may be much more valuable than the Winchester.ChrisPer (talk) 06:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto.  The Win '86, a big high-power rifle, was never chambered in .32-20- that's what the 1873, 1892 and '85 low-wall were for; and Marlin '88s are valuable generally and especially valuable in .32-20 (fewer than 2000 made).--Solicitr (talk) 16:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1888 Lever Action Saddle ring. 

message: Seriously. It uses flowery imagery, like a tourist brochure or an advertising newspaper puff-piece. It is unreferenced. And it is BS. It asserts that the '73 and Peacemaker were the 'standard tools of the west' when we are very careful to debunkthis movie-poster ahistoric nonsense. I am deleting the section. ChrisPer (talk) 05:01, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WTF? Iconography section is tripe, er, not the slightest bit encyclopedic 

message: The first paragraph of this section is confusing regarding ammunition and the distinction between rifle and carbine. It says that all three variants used pistol ammunition, but then says the carbine was popular because it allowed users to share ammunition with their pistols. The whole article is confusing as between rifle and carbine, sometimes using "rifle" to include carbine, and sometimes distinguishing between rifle and carbine. Cyclopaedic (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The only problem I see with that paragraph is with the last part of the last sentence, which does seem like an incorrect distinction. I think the confusion here may lie in the fact that "carbine" is often used as a description for a rifle that is shorter than is usual for that type. So, sometimes the carbines will be included when talking about rifles, and sometimes there will be a distinction made between the regular rifles and the carbines. - Bardbom (talk) 14:43, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and fixed that sentence, and moved the tidbit about it allowing users to carry the same ammo for both rifle and pistol to a more appropriate place. - Bardbom (talk) 15:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winchester Model 1873 

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message: At this stage, the article states:
:the Model 1866. It retained the .44 Henry cartridge, was likewise built on a bronze-alloy frame, and had an improved magazine and a wooden forearm.
A wooden forearm in the 1866 model? really? I thought it never had one... Kintaro (talk) 18:33, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Forget my message above, I mixed up the Henry rifle (no forearm) with the Winchester 1866 rifle (with a forearm included, of course). Kintaro (talk) 19:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Model 1866: a wooden forearm? 

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message: Currently a sentence tacked onto the Model 1876 section reads "Former slave and first African American woman to work for the us postal service Mary Fields has also been photographed with a winchester 1876[15]"  Now, it is true that the two preceding sentences refer to ownership of '76s by Teddy Roosevelt and Geronimo-- but Roosevelt was and is famous as a hunter and Geronimo as a warrior: in other words, their notability is bound up with using guns.  But I can't see what "first African American woman to work for the us postal service" has to do with firearms. It would be like the Ford Motor Co. page rather arbitrarily pointing out that Wolfgang Puck once owned a Ford. Solicitr (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: OK,I'm going to delete, in the absence of objection Solicitr (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query notability/relevance 

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message: "the gun that won the west" it didn't "won" any west  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.235.251.172 (talk) 18:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  a comment 

message: I have Henry's personal Winchester and believe it could clear up some things about who did what and when. It's one of four prototypes. The only one not accounted for. I would like to sell it but what is it worth. Someone at Henry Co. said they would give me  $176.000.00  I  need help please Someone 50.86.54.165 (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henry's personal Winchester