Talk:Nigeria/Archive 3

message: Recent edits by  have been reverted because he does not provide reliable sources. Instead, when asked to do so, this user has uploaded a fake and edited ethnolinguistic map. Subsequently, this user has reinstated his own version of the census data without providing a source. In another attempt, this user mentioned the CIA Factbook as a source while fully aware that this source does not support his edits. Stop the disruptive edits, please! — mark ✎ 12:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits by Mahattan Stone & co.

message: If you contribute to this Nigeria Article what is your opinion on the Nigerian demographics?
* Is it necessary to add a link to [nigeriaone.com] which is the replacement of the controversial link to [mooo.com] that got amy333 and her aliases banned.
* What can be done about amy333 aliases constantly adding spam to the Nigeria article? Check out the following link: Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Amy333
* Are the Fulani and Hausa Ethnic groups individually larger than the Yoruba ethnic group or are they larger than the Yoruba ethnic group when Hausa and Fulani are combined?
:*On the first two points: four more links have been added to the site-wide spam blacklist to stop the spamming, and accounts that are created solely to promote these websites and to threaten users will be blocked immediately.
:*On the second point: see Talk:Yoruba for a similar discussion and a few sourced estimates. — mark ✎ 17:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic Group Controversy  

message: Please give some justification for blanking obstetric fistula as a significant health issue, before you delete it next time.  CuteGargoyle 06:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Obstetric fistula, although a serious condition, affects less than 1% of Nigerians; it may be best to move it to a separate health-related article. If every disease that affects a similar percentage of Americans were to be included in the United States article, we'll have an astronomically long article. In my opinion, insiting that rare health conditions should remain on a country's main page would be divergent from the Wikipedia goal of creating concise encyclopedic articles. Dayg1110 12:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for coming here to discuss the issue with me.  If you want to go by the numbers, then polio has no "relevance" to the article either.  "To date in 2005, Nigeria has 78 cases of polio in 18 states compared to 125 cases in 25 states at the same point in 2004," according to the WHO. CuteGargoyle 21:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Obstetric fistula is not simply a health condition.  It's a social injustice.  The widespread attitude that women are unimportant or irrelevant is exactly what is at issue here.  CuteGargoyle 21:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obstetric Fistula 

message: I have trimmed the external links section, removing all the government links except the main government site.  From there, they have links to all the ministries and such sites.  We need not list them all here.  Also, I have reduced the number of newspaper links to four that sources tell me are the most widely read.  The "Overviews" portion of the links section has two links (worldfactbook and state dept.).  These two can probably be used to properly reference material in the article and be removed from the External links section.  That will leave the DMOZ link as the last one, which serves the purpoes of link directory, since Wikipedia is not a link directory. -Aude (talk | contribs) 17:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: === Amy333 ===
Amy333 seems hellbent on spamming this article.  Is there a way to monitor her edits?  Some of her edits seem legit but for the most part she spams this entry with fraudlent links.
===Amy333 and her aliases===
I just found out that the sites that Amy and Co. keep putting up are malicious sites that try to download things to people's computers!!! Check out Abuja - History - Wikipedia. To the left, highlighted in red is geocities.com/seelagos1 which redirects to a site resembling the nigeria.mooo.com site that Amy always adds to this article.
Please lets be on the lookout for Amy or any of her aliases and monitor their activity.
--Dayg1110 05:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, these mooo.com subdomains are overly commercial sites and the few pictures on there are very probably copyright violations. In no way do these sites qualify as useful external links (Wikipedia:External links) so they should be removed on sight. This all is just a continuation of an earlier discussion at Talk:Lagos in which several of the spammers were blocked for making legal threats and for spamming. To stop this abuse (which has been going on for months now) I have submitted these urls to the site-wide Spam blacklist. Within a few days they will be added and it will no longer be possible to include them in articles. — mark ✎ 07:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spam by Amy333 and sockpuppets

message: I just found out that the sites that Amy and Co. keep putting up are malicious sites that try to download things to people's computers!!! Check out Abuja - History - Wikipedia. To the left, highlighted in red is geocities.com/seelagos1 which redirects to a site resembling the nigeria.mooo.com site that Amy always adds to this article.
Please lets be on the lookout for Amy or any of her aliases and monitor their activity.
--Dayg1110 05:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, these mooo.com subdomains are overly commercial sites and the few pictures on there are very probably copyright violations. In no way do these sites qualify as useful external links (Wikipedia:External links) so they should be removed on sight. This all is just a continuation of an earlier discussion at Talk:Lagos in which several of the spammers were blocked for making legal threats and for spamming. To stop this abuse (which has been going on for months now) I have submitted these urls to the site-wide Spam blacklist. Within a few days they will be added and it will no longer be possible to include them in articles. — mark ✎ 07:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Amy333 and her aliases

message: Hey I need some help with my report. What should I put about nigeria, Gove. Sports ect. well you can e-mail at Pez5600@aol.com
                                             Sincerly
                                                 Vex
:Try asking at the Reference Desk, Vex. — mark ✎ 17:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help me with my report 

message: "Judaism is also present in Nigeria, practiced largely by people of the Igbo ethnic group (see Jews of Nigeria) and are believed to be one of the Lost tribes of Israel." ----- dis sentence bugs me,aren't there loads of christian igbos?cuz i jus can't seem 2 remba any jewish igbos.i've heard some talk bout d igbo jews,but i really don't believe it  11:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judaism? 

message: wat exactly is ur (those who keep changing it) infatuation wit d %??me thinks wiki's not d place 2 bigup ur tribe,its gettin rather annoyin.who cares if ur d largest.does ur tribe being d largest improve d our (am guessin y'all r 9jans) country?y dont u get ur backsides 2 work wit d footie section.  12:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  changes in Demographics 

message: *Are the Hausa or the Fulani ethnic group independently larger than the Igbo or Ijaw Ethnic group? 
*Or are the Hausa and Fulani ethnic group when combined larger than the Igbo Ethnic group. 
*Certainly the Fulani ethnic group on its own is not larger than the Igbo or Ijaw ethnic group.
*The Hausa and Fulani ethnic groups when combined are larger than the Yoruba Ethnic group.
*Can you clarify this subject and also a cite will be helpful.
*In the meantime I will cite the data from the reliable CIA World Factbook . "Nigeria, Africa's most populous country, is composed of more than 250 ethnic groups; the following are the most populous and politically influential: Hausa and Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo (Ibo) 18%, Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio 3.5%, Tiv 2.5%"
* Notice the Hausa and Fulani are combined when reporting this data
* Notice that there are more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria so I will change that also. 
-Just keeping it honest.(Neutrall 08:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fulani ethnic group larger than Ibo or Ijaw? 

message: In order to view the cited references, I will add a References level 2 headline. It is encouraged to use the wiki reference mark up below  place website in here  when trying to cite a reliable website. (Neutrall 08:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I should like to add that the best sources often are offline sources, i.e. real books from libraries. In my opinion, we should strive to make Wikipedia a compendium of all knowledge, not just of the knowledge published elsewhere on the internet. Additionally, the reliability and verifiability of many websites is unclear. — mark ✎ 11:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing Refrences 

message: * I will list reliable sources that simply and more accurately depict the major ethnic groups.
:*  - Library of Congress
:* [ -CIA - The World Factbook
:*  - National Geographic
:*  - Worldpress.org
* If there cannot be a resolve as to which is the largest ethnic group, I suggest that the ethnic groups be listed in alphabetical order.
* On the other hand since Nigerians are all one; editors can follow the lead of the Nigerian 2006 census and omit data regarding the major ethnic groups rather than providing speculative data.
* In my opinion; the article will not be significantly changed if the ethnic information is omitted. Since I have been following Nigerian census, the population of the Yoruba and Hausa ethnic  group  which is seperate from the Fulani ethnic group have been very close. (Neutrall 12:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   '''Frankly there is no current data on this ethnic issue''' 

message: The article Federal ministers of Nigeria can use a few editors. Feel free to contibute to the article. Tnx Neutrall 23:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Federal ministers of Nigeria 

message: Note that the groundnut link refers to more than one plant, while "groundnuts" links to peanut.  Perhaps someone knows what is meant here. David R. Ingham 04:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "groundnuts"