Talk:Bangladesh Air Force

message: Please do NOT add content that is outdated or is promotional in fashion (See WP:sourcing help). If you are unsure how to insert entries into the table - then send a request here on the talk page, and an experienced editor will help you. You guys have to stop this back & forward with flags, non-notable items & numbers. This is an Encyclopedia, not a fan based website for newsy items WP:NOTNEWS. Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft inventory table 

message: They don't have latest information about our airforce. Please don't use their information about our current inventory. Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 18:45, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: -You saying "They don't have latest information about our airforce" about WAF 2020 is not a valid reason. to exclude them as a reliable source. -FOX 52 (talk) 21:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

text: All content must be properly sourced to Reliable sources according to Wikipedia's standards - you cannot use claimed personal knowledge to overrule reliable sources. In addition, you cannot just subtract reported losses from previous inventories, as this doesn't necessarily take account of attrition replacement aircraft or aircraft that have been taken out of storage and brought back to use.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:01, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I already send mail to Flight Global. They confirmed that "Order of 8 Su-30 of Bangladesh Air Force will be removed from "World Airforce 2021" list. This is their response to my mail, "Please note that the information used in the 2020 directory is now one year old. The previously included Su-30 order has already been deleted by our data provider". Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 07:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  "They confirmed that "Order of 8 Su-30 of Bangladesh Air Force will be removed from "World Airforce 2021"??? again your word alone is NOT a reliable source Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources for help - Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 20:36, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Its a case of phased out (in storage but not out of inventory) - FOX 52 (talk) 18:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:PROVEIT the only thing i see in that source is a picture of FT-6, no data, no written text. - FOX 52 (talk) 20:43, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

text: The latest Flight World Air Forces directory is out now: -  - and indicates no Su 30s (of any version) operated or on order - can this agreed now?Nigel Ish (talk) 10:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Don't use faulty "World Airforces 2020" as a reference. 

message: Bangladesh Air Force  will order 16 MRCA soon. In January 2020, the minister responsible for defence affairs in the parliament, Mr. Anisul Huq told the parliament that process is going on to procure 16 multirole combat aircraft. Tender for eight to twelve  Su-30 already cancelled. Flight Global confirmed that they will remove Su-30 from the list in next update. All other references are obsolete, most of the articles are published in 2018. Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 13:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol,looks like none is listening to you.Miad I Mahbub BD (talk) 13:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I win. "Truth is still the truth, even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it".  Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 08:02, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: lol Miad I Mahbub BD (talk) 10:49, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supporters of Su-30 are spreading rumor. I challenge information related to 8/12 Su-30 is wrong. 

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message: Stop edit warring. You both know better. It is disruptive even if you are right, and each of you is wrong on some points. For example:
* With respect to the MiG-29, Wikipedia may not state "6 Mig-29B and 2 Mig-29UB" because the two cited sources don't support that. The tender document supports 3 MiG-29B and 1 MiG-29UB, but an encyclopedia should be summarizing secondary sources, not using primary sources to support excessive detail that secondary sources don't delve into.
* The Su-30 should no longer be listed. Neither aerotime.aero nor 21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com is a reliable source, and World Air Forces, the one reliable source that did support the order, has, after many years, dropped it from their 2021 edition. We should be using the latest information from the highest quality sources.
Explain here, point by point, what changes you think should be made, and why. I shouldn't have to template regulars, but I've left reminders on your talk pages about how you should try to resolve this. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the PT-6 trainer previous sourcing was this video, so thats a little unsure on there current usage, - The C-130J variant "Hercules C5" has no source to that claim. - The L-410 Turbolet used as a "Used as transport trainer" is nor sourced either. Also is not necessary to attach notes like "Two seat trainer version of F-7 fighter" for the FT-7 jet, thats why we have wikilinks to allow the reader to get a more in-depth look on that specific aircraft. - Apologies all around for not being able to put an edit summary, but the rolls back feature didn't provide one- FOX 52 (talk) 04:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current inventory edit warring 

message: Please do not add images to the tables per WP:IMAGEMOS. as well as flag icons per: WP:MOSFLAG - Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 05:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: why are you adding another column to the table? - Why are you removing images already in place- FOX 52 (talk) 06:32, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventory tables 

message: No source was cited for the lead's "the Air Force has been involved in ... supporting international efforts including the Coalition of the Gulf War ..." or the infobox's listing of the Gulf War as one of the Air Force's battles/engagements. So I've removed the Gulf War for now.
Bangladesh contributed a small force to defend Saudi Arabia in the 1990-1991 Gulf War, but sources don't mention the Air Force or airmen, only ground troops, mainly support units.
Was the Air Force was involved in the Gulf War? If so, how? Please add it back if you can provide a citation to a reliable source. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air Force in Gulf War 

message: This edit is completely unsourced, for starters. Elizium23 (talk) 07:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material 

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message: Change the name of Air Chief Masihuzzaman Serniabat to Shaikh Abdul Hannan. Jubair Sayeed Linas (talk) 16:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
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