Talk:Human chorionic gonadotropin

message: Please provide a reference for this statement: "The ingredients in these products are often obscure, but if prepared from true hCG via homeopathic dilution, they contain either no hCG at all or only trace amounts."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.77.163.4 (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a specific reference, but my understanding was that the agumeny against any homeopathic dilution was that i you dilute something 10X, the concentation is deceased by a factor of such magnitude that it is larger than Avogadro's number (6.04 * 10^26 IIRC), so there is literally none of the supposedly active agent left - and the idea that even if the concept (I think) of homeopathy is true that the effect itself is from the fact that the concentration is so small..  It still has to be at least one molecule (unless one wants to get into the realm of ideas of "energy imprinting" or whatever else might be tossed about - which is AFAIK considered outside the realm of current biological [atomic?] physics)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.143.128 (talk) 02:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Provide reference 

message: In accordance with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Drugs naming policy, I propose we move this page to the INN chorionic gonadotropin. If you have any concern with this proposal, please discuss it on this page. Matt 23:03, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename proposal 

message: I've seen a couple additions and then reverts, might as well have a place for actual discussion.  It does seem that reliable sourves and saying that other unnamed sources have identified this as the banned substance he's been suspended for.  So I guess we need to decide a) does this belong in at all, and b) are the sources strong enough.  Here's one story naming this substance.--Cube lurker (talk) 19:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manny Ramirez positive test 

message: Given the current popularity of "hCG diets" online, the weight control section is pretty paltry. I am adding a little more detail and some linkagePupplesan (talk) 07:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Detail on hCG for Weight Loss 

message: In this edit, the statement is made that Citation does not support the statement. Primary source needed.  I have reverted this edit for the following reasons:
* Concerns about the article should be expressed on the talk page and should not be added directly to the article.  (Use of  or  templates in the article however would be appropriate).
* According to WP:RS, secondary sources are preferable to primary sources.
The sources in question are reliable secondary sources that in turn have cited various primary and secondary sources. Furthermore these sources do support the statement that hCG is neither safe,[14] nor effective as a weight-loss aid[16]. Boghog (talk) 10:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary vs. secondary sources 

message: Hi Boghog, I'm re-adding the PBB template temporarily to facilitate a statistics collection run we're doing (we use the presence of the PBB template to identify which pages are part of the Gene Wiki project). I'll remove it after the run, but I'd also like to discuss a way we could re-incorporate it. What was the reason behind swapping it for two Protein templates? Thanks, Pleiotrope (talk) 19:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Pleiotrope. The reason I replaced the PBB template with two protein templates is that chorionic gonadotropin is a heterodimer composed of the protein products of two separate genes, chorionic gonadotropin alpha and chorionic gonadotropin beta, each of which already incorporates a PBB template.  For completeness, this article should contain infoboxes about each of the two genes and including two PBB templates in the same article overwhelms the rest of the content whereas the protein templates are more compact.  Including the CGA PBB template in both this article and the chorionic gonadotropin alpha article is redundant.  Does this make sense? Boghog (talk) 20:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Got it, that makes perfect sense. Mind if we leave it in briefly? I'll revert it within the next day or so. Pleiotrope (talk) 21:22, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem.  Revert after you complete your statistics collection.  Cheers.  Boghog (talk) 04:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of PBB template 

message: Is hCG completely illegal?  The following paragraph starts out as fact but I'm not so sure about the second sentence.
"The United States Food and Drug Administration has stated that this drug is fraudulent and ineffective for weight loss. It is also not protected as a homeopathic drug and has been deemed an illegal substance."
I believe making the claim that hCG is effective in losing weight will earn you a warning letter from the FDA, but I could find no evidence that the hormone is illegal to purchase, consume, distribute or transport (assuming it is not accompanied by weight loss claims).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.51.131 (talk) 17:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on the Legality of hCG 

message: 74.68.99.173 (talk) 23:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  unencyclopedic statements 

message: I want to say about the structure of hCG, you wrote there it's made of 244 amino acid but you also said alpha unit is made from 92 and Beta unit is made from 145 amino acid so the sum is 237. my question is : where does the remaining 7 amino acid went? in many references i found that alpha unit is made of 92 amino acid and Beta unit is made of 145 amino acid but i couldn't find that hCG is made of 245 amino acid.
For example the reference is:
http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/12/2233.full
(Mirwice Haqmal (talk) 06:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the heads up.  Both UniProt and PDB say 237 AA and hence I have corrected the article.  Boghog (talk) 08:55, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the structure 

message: Is it true, that human can be immunized against HCG with long-term anti-pregnancy effect? Refs:   .
Is it true that such vaccine may be used or was used in third-patry/developing  countries for population reduction, e.g. via  tetanus vaccines?   `a5b (talk) 05:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immunization against HCG in population control 

message: A group of African Catholic preists has accused the WHO and UNICEF of distributing HCG-laced neonatal tetanus vaccinations in cooperation with the Kenyan Ministry of Health. There are currently both accusations and denials.
It seems that the birth control effects of HCG should be mentioned in the article. Perhaps under a "controversy" heading.
58.141.207.253 (talk) 06:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Per you suggestion, I have added a controversy section.  Thanks for the heads up. Boghog (talk) 19:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Increased media exposure of HCG as "subversive anti-fertility treatment" 

message: This article only references Chorionic gonadotropin in females; however, this hormone is also involved in the production of testosterone in males and hormone deficiency can result in §hypogonadism and infertility.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dorje Shedrub (talk • contribs) 15:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chorionic gonadotropin in males 

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