Talk:The First Noel

message: * The carol is actually "The First Nowell", but please be consistent in using one word or the other. I favour the use of Nowell in this instance. It's an (British) English carol and uses the (British) English spelling.Rockhopper10r 03:38, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Admittedly, this is not terribly scientific, and Google does do some cross indexing of the different spellings.  However, it does suggest that The First Noël is the most commonly known name for this carol. Enquire (talk) 04:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

text: It is of English origin. You don't hear the song sung in France. Neither do the French claim it originated from them (See the French Wikipedia version) --Phillip J (talk) 08:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noel vs Nowell 

message: *I don't think the Animaniacs parody needs its own section separate from the other parodies, and I'm not sure that section needs to be so detailed in describing the parody of the lyrics.
*The first part of the second parody section makes no sense to me; perhaps it makes more sense to someone familiar with the parody being described.  In any case, the sentences about it need editing for clarity.
*The "Tool Time" parody should probably be discussed in a separate paragraph.
B7T (talk) 13:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed this up by creating a subsection in the "Other versions and recordings" section - Antmusic (talk) 01:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  But the Family Channel parody (the subject of my second bullet point above) could still use some cleanup. B7T (talk) 15:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parodies 

message: The First Nowell/Noel appeared in Terry Gilliam's film "Brazil" (1985) twice. Should it be mentioned in the article, possibly under "Other versions and recordings".Avman89 (talk) 05:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance in the film Brazil 

message: While I don't have very strong feelings about which word should be used (see above), one thing I do think looks bad is what we have now: using "Nowell" in the article title, but ignoring the word entirely in the lead. That just looks inconsistent. (For what it's worth, I'm British and looked for "Nowell" first.) 86.141.198.90 (talk) 17:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - I've changed it to Nowell in the first line, to match the title. I would recommend a decision being reached (I'd vote for Nowell - most versions I've seen have spelt it this way), and then all cases being standardised throughout - at the moment the lyrics use Noel; if we're sticking with Nowell they should be changed to that. --82.70.156.254 (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name (again) 

message: I noticed that the lyrics of the carol were moved from the article to Wikisource. According to this Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry, there is nothing to say that the lyrics can't appear in the article and I think many people who were actually searching for this article would be expecting to see the lyrics. (If there are wikipedia guidelines that state otherwise, it would be great to note them first, rather than just undoing the change.) JenLouise (talk) 02:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To make it a little more analytical, I've added a textual comparison with a Cornish folk version, which hopefully provides a little more context. (What on earth am I doing editing this on Christmas day?!). Rob (talk) 10:21, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: ? --77.188.140.21 (talk) 18:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says "the angels say" is the American version, but I'm an American and I don't think I've heard anything besides "the angels did say." Maybe "the angel did say" though. --BDD (talk) 18:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: angel oder angels?

message: maybe we should convert it from mid to ogg? i could do it but I need some comments regarding it. zlouiemark [ T ] [ C ]  16:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  regarding audio sample 

message: who wrote this songAndyg82 (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a folk song, so although somebody would have written it originally, his/her name have been unrecorded, and the tune and lyrics evolved and adapted by multiple hands or performers. You could argue the most well-known hymn arrangement was by Sir John Stainer, but he didn't write the tune or words. Rob (talk) 08:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  author 

message: The Hymn Book for the Anglican Church of Canada - Common Praise - 1998 uses the wording 'The First Nowell'. It states that it's a 17th Cent English Melody, which was arranged by John Stainer(1840-1901). I think it's good to keep traditional spellings alive. Especially when we are singing about a 2000+ old event.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.137.245.206 (talk) 16:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I quite agree, in the original English versions and scholarly sources, it's always "Nowell". Unfortunately, it appears American editions and, perhaps more pertinently pop recordings go with the wrong French version. Rob (talk) 18:27, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The First Nowell