Talk:Arthur Gould (rugby union)

message: Does anyone know which Newport this refers to, so that we can disambiguate it? Don't say 'the one in Wales', there are two. DJ Clayworth 15:35, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I've been through the article a few times and I think its worth a GA nomination. It fits the criteria I think - well-written; factually accurate and verifiable by references; broad; neutral; and stable. The very start of the lead reads slightly awkwardly to me, it mentions Gould being a Welsh international centre and full-back, and I put myself in the position of the "ignorant" (in the best sense of the word) reader and asking myself what that is!  It does then go on to mention Gould as a rugby player in the next few words but maybe the emphasis needs a change. It reads well enough to me, plenty of detailed coverage of Gould's rugby career and detail about his life outside the game. No reference to the facts about his death though as far as I can see. These are just a few initial thoughts and I'll put it to one side and come at it fresh again tomorrow.
Pretty good article anyway about a major figure in the early-ish history of Welsh international rugby. --Bcp67 (talk) 19:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't think I can add any more to it to be honest - I'd suggest you put it up for GA nomination and see how it gets on. It might not necessarily pass first time but I doubt it would need much further work. It's readable, comprehensive, well-referenced and decently illustrated, for my money at least.--Bcp67 (talk) 19:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Good Article 

message: Thought I would post this link here, and editors of this article can take a look and see if anything useful is in it. It may or may not be useful:  Famous Players: A J Gould (scroll down a little bit SauliH (talk) 04:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: bio at this link from 1899

message: The article states "... and three days later the first team took to the field at the Saracerns Ground in Walthamstow against London Scottish", by Saracerns does this mean Saracens F.C., and Palmerston Road, Walthamstow? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 17:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It should read "Saracens" and it is at Palmerston Road". FruitMonkey (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Saracerns Ground 

message: Hey. Wondering if it's okay to change the citation style used within the article. I was thinking something more like Thomas Ellison or The Original All Blacks. A harvard style that uses template:harv and template:sfn. I'm happy to convert it myself. There are a couple of reasons why I like it:
*It looks pretty good
*It makes it easier to edit (in my opinion)
*Can add references first, and then add the inline citations at a later date
Need to the consent of the major contributor here, and don't want to step on anyone's toes. - Shudde talk 11:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Splendid idea. FruitMonkey (talk) 18:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Your citations for Davies were for the year 1999 – I changed them to 2008, was this correct? - Shudde talk 10:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Another question, I'm not familiar with the format "Griffiths (1987), p.4:7" – what does 4:7 refer to? - Shudde talk 11:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Book doesn't use page numbers, it's split into sections and then by page. So England is Chapter 1, pages 1-65. Then Scotland is Chapter 2, pages 1-62. So 4:7 is Chapter 4, page 7; but that's not a true page number. FruitMonkey (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: I've been trying to find more information on Gould playing for Middlesex. Looks like he played against the 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team in 1888  . This match was on 22 October, but Gould was unavailable for Wales later that year. The second link also suggests Middlesex had an undefeated season in 1887, possibly when Gould was playing for them. - Shudde talk 04:16, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middlesex 

message: There are a few outstanding points from the peer review that need to be addressed before the article is ready for FAC. I'll list them here:
* -- need to say by who
*May be worth including a reference for the note that injury replacements were not permitted during Gould's career.
* -- may need rewording to remove jargon
* -- do we know what position Phillips was playing?
* -- "even-time sprinter" will not be understood by many, should be reworded
* -- should consider rewording, record could be taken to refer to attendance rather than captaincy
* Need to check images, including captions and formatting as per MOS:IMAGE.
The following statements need an inline reference, or a check that the succeeding inline citation supports the statement (except in the case of the succeeding citation being in a new paragraph, in which case it should be replicated at the end of the sentence):
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Once these are done, I think we're very close to being ready for FAC. -- Shudde talk 09:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll pick these up tomorrow evening. I will have no issue sourcing them all. FruitMonkey (talk) 23:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Will that do? FruitMonkey (talk) 18:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! I'm pretty tired tonight so will make a final sweep and then nominate. That should happen in the next couple of days. I'll let you know as soon as I do this. -- Shudde talk 10:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things remaining from peer review 

message: "He never ceased practising in order to develop his fitness and skills" seems a bit syrupy since if he never ceased practice then how is it that he found the time to have a family? Maybe, like Winston Churchhill, he was half American (eagle that is that fly to heights as part of their mating; but then that might be a potential adult film scenario but is not necessarily rugby).66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:59, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. He had to stop practicing to actually play. Howabout changing to something like: "Throughout his career he followed a practise regimen to develop his fitness and skills"?--Khajidha (talk) 13:16, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: or at least if there is a source that comments on his practicing then say that he was known for practicing his skills set but not that Victorian peppermint stick stuff with a liquidy chewy center. Even Geo. Washington never had to fess up to cutting down a cherry tree to show his integrity.66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:33, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restating without the poetry 

message: Thanks to : and : for getting this to FA status, and getting featured on the 150th anniversary of his birth was a nice touch. While doing some categorization of files for Newport, Wales on commons I came across this: 
There is a brief description of the cartoon on commons. Would it be useful as an addition to the "Gould affair" section? Robevans123 (talk) 20:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Thanks for a great article

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