Talk:Architect (The Matrix)

message: Given all of the references to various gnostic beliefs in the Matrix films, do you think it would be fitting to add a section that highlights the parallels between the Architect and the Demiurge?
I for one think that the similarities are fairly obvious, but since there's no rush (after all, I don't imagine that wikipedia's going to up and run away any time soon) I thought I'd run it by the rest of wiki first.  RebelTLF  1:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Architect and the Gnostic [[Demiurge]] 

message: I just made some intensive changes to this page, and I wanted to share some important points to it.
Please rewatch the last two movies. The Architect is the master control program for the Matrix, but he is NOT the Source. Neither is the Deus Ex Machina, although it has more power than the Architect (otherwise the Architect would have dispensed with Smith a long time before he became a problem). Deus is a representative for the Source as the Architect is the primary representative for the Matrix (Neo never talks directly to the Source throughout the movies, although Deus is probably pretty close). The Architect has always been a middleman. For change to truly happen, it had to come from the Machine City itself. Neo returns to the Source of the Machine's power, the Machine City, and, unlike his predecessors, skips over the management of the Matrix's power, the Architect. It all came down to choices, and, in the end, Neo's different choice from his predecessors led him to a new path and its end. Spencerian 15:43, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot corrections 

message: If the current Matrix is modeled after the human civilization of the late 20th century, then that world would have around 6 billion humans. If this is true, then 0.01*1 billion = 6 MILLION HUMANS! How is this possible if Zion is a city of 500,000, many of whom are native born? I--Procrastinating@talk2me 15:43, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense that the general health of the population of the Matrix would be linked to the Matrix, doesn't it? I mean, considering the effect the mind could have on the environment, couldn't the environment have a similar effect on the mind (think: jump program)? *shrug* That was my reasoning, anyway. To look at it another way, the life support systems for the pods could be hooked in somehow. Either way, I'm just throwing out guesses. :-) --Johnny (Cuervo) 12:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Can't they grow as many people as they like? Kausill 13:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1% of ALL HUMANS? 

message: Hard to follow!!!!!!!!!!!
While i have not seen the movie yet, i have read over the script. It seemed a bit easier to follow than everyone said.
But thats just me. --J Assassin 07:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  EXTREMELY COMPLICATED 

message: This article makes a lot more sense, because the Architect's polysyllabic babblings (while all english), are too esoteric.
:) Piepants 06:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very nice article 

message: In the first Matrix film Neo, at the police station, is seen in a bank of monitors, but no police station would have so many unlabelled color monitors for a single camera, implying that it was The Architect watching Neo from his room of monitors. (The Wachowski's probably hadn't yet pinned down the look of the room and its monitors yet.)  And was Neo talking to The Architect on the phone at the end of the first movie?  If not, then who?  This article also needs to make it clear that The Architect is not Deus Ex Machina in physical form, as explained here
:I recognised the bank of monitors being of likeness to the Architect's room too (although, on a flat wall in the first film). There must be some significance to it worth noting. Exactly what it is, I haven't the foggiest! Bob f it 16:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly what I thought, too. Kausill 13:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was The Architect in the First Movie?  

message: This article has long been sidetracked; If it is about the Architect, it should not be dwelling so much on things not directly related to him or his actions.  For instance, I just cut out a lot of material that should be in The Oracle's article.  
There was also a lot of content pertaining to the movies and Neo, in particular, which could go under their respective pages.
--Antelope In Search Of Truth 00:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul of page

message: Why are the comparisions to real life people gone? The Architect looks far too much like Vint Cerf for it to be a coincidence. He may not look like Louis Pastuer, but many wikipedians agree that he resembles Colonel Sanders. -Buttle 04:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Vint Cerf]]

message: This page says that the Architect designed Neo so that he could reboot the system.  But, I thought that Neo was an anomally that arises every hundred years or so, and that the Architect, unable to create an equation in which the anomally wouldn't apear, simply designed the Matrix around the anomally.  Also, I thought that in giving the anomally the choice of either saving a few people or killing everyone, the architect was simply ensuring that the anomally would be too busy trying to rebuild Zion to bother him, while he is rebooting the Matrix.  Am I right or did I just misunderstand the movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.60.160 (talk) 02:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did the Architect Create Neo? 

message: It is stated quite clearly that Neo is the result of an anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. He is the result of the subconscious choice whether to accept the program or not that was granted to all humans. The prophecy of the One was created as a means to control an otherwise uncontrollable anomaly, thus safeguarding the system. He was not 'created' by the Architect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mentasm (talk • contribs) 11:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Architect did not create Neo 

message: I don't quite understand why Vint Cerf is related to this, other than the fact that the Architect somewhat resembles him. If someone could explain to me why he is under see also, it would be appreciated. 226Tridenttalk 12:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vint Cerf? 

message: I just fixed a serious issue with pronouns. I actually got confused and thought it was suggesting that Neo could not see past the equations.
This section also has a lot of redundancy in its language. She says, she tells him, she also says. This happens four times in a row. Someone needs to sit through and fix it. I don't have the time right now.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.235.173 (talk) 11:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sixth One redundancy in language. 

message: "Affluent" means wealthy. A rich vocabulary means a large vocabulary. In this case, adding the phrase "with affluent vocabulary" not only uses the wrong word (a vocabulary does not possess money, therefore it cannot be affluent; perhaps the writer meant the vocabulary of an affluent person, but that makes no sense either, as someone might be affluent and have an objectively smaller vocabulary than average). Even using a more appropriate word (a rich vocabulary, for instance) adds nothing to the sentence except extra time required to read it. Less is more, as they say.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.109.15.55 (talk) 14:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "with affluent vocabulary" stricken 

message: This article has a lot of duplicated info.  2 sections, "character" and "character history," are basically the same content. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 04:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I addressed some issues in the article but still needs work.  A good copy editor could be of use here. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 00:41, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancies