Talk:Gibraltar pound

message: Whichever of the above views are correct, the following sentence surely cannot be universally correct:
:Gibraltar notes are not legal tender in the UK, but are exchangable at a rate of 0.92:1 for UK notes at banks.
If this exchange rate were applicable both ways in the UK, but the rate remained at 1:1 in Gibraltar itself, a lot of profit could be made by transporting money back and forth! However, oanda.com does indeed claim that 1 GIP = 0.92798 GBP, and has varied between 0.91400 and 1.04180 GBP in the past 12 months. This is not just a small numerical error caused by unsynchronised updating of other exchange rates, as suggested above by NFH. The deviations from 1.0000 are too big for that. Surely Oanda must be wrong.
If you look at xe.com, their rate is precisely 1.0000.
I've emailed oanda.com, and they are looking into it.
Another point: it doesn't make sense to say the Gibraltar pound is a different currency from Sterling, because the Gibraltar banknotes use the words "Pounds Sterling"! If it's a different currency from the UK pound, then there must be more than one Pound Sterling. Mtford 00:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  0.92:1 ?? 

message: The portrait of Elizabeth II on the Gibraltar banknotes is clearly not a recent one! Can anybody find a reference for the date and artist, and perhaps an explanation for the Gibraltar government's decision to keep such an old image? Mtford 00:47, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The image on GBP notes is old aswell, as well as Manx and others. I think only Her Majesties image on coins changes (with 3 different ages currently in circulation on the £+p  - as far as I'm aware.) --Kurtle (talk) 01:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Queen's portrait? 

message: :UK coins and banknotes circulate in Gibraltar and are universally accepted and interchangeable with Gibraltar pounds
Does this include Scottish and Northern Irish pounds?
Same question about other mentions of "UK pounds"?
--Error 00:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that you mention it, no. Perhaps we should change it to 'English coins and banknotes'? Chris Buttigiegtalk 11:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-English pounds

message: Since we see fit to have an article called "Gibraltar pound", the introduction needs to give a definition of what that is. Several times I have changed the first sentence from "The pound ... is the currency of Gibraltar." to "The Gibraltar pound ... is the currency of Gibraltar.", but it is changed back. If my definition is incorrect then please fix it, but please don't just change it back to "The pound ... is the currency of Gibraltar." If someone looks up "Gibraltar pound" and reads that, then the obvious response is "fine, the pound is the currency of Gibraltar, so what then is the Gibraltar pound?". It's terribly confusing. The article really does need to begin with "The Gibraltar pound is ... [whatever it is]" Matt 19:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. The article is called the Gibraltar pound because it is about the pound of Gibraltar. The name "Gibraltar pound" has no official standing and appears nowhere on the currency. That's why it keeps getting changed back to "The pound...". This isn't a big point but it can cause confusion if it isn't got right.Dove1950 10:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an ISO code for it, and the Government of Gibraltar itself uses the term on its own websites  , as does the FCO  and the CIA .  I know some Gibraltarians think the GIP is a mythical beast, and have even lobbied the CIA to change it on their personal website  but notably the CIA have not done so.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 23:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's one thing we can be sure of, it's that the CIA is in no way a reliable guide. Sadly, ISO  4217 is also very unreliable and inconsistent. What would be needed to justify use of Gibraltar pound is somewhere official that actually defines that term. The very fact that this article currently also has Gibraltarian pound indicates to me that neither term has any official standing.Dove1950 12:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is your evidence that the CIA is in no way a reliable guide?  Also, explain the Government of Gibraltar's use of the term and the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office's use of the term.  Aren't Government websites official enough for you?  Isn't this evidence enough for you?  "What is Gibraltar’s currency?  The monetary unit is the Gibraltar pound"  I agree that the term "Gibraltar pound" may not be enshrined in any law anywhere, but this is clearly the term used by convention to distinguish it from pounds issued by other governments.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 12:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your link does not use the term "Gibraltar pound", so why should we?Dove1950 10:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that one got changed (at the behest of a Wikipedian who appears to be buddies with the webmaster).  However, explain the FCO use of the term?   The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the BBC's?  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The FCO is clear but is unfortunately in conflict with the government site (even if it is an "inside job"). I think, based on what evidence there is, we should remove "Gibraltarian pound" as there is no evidence for that whatsoever and wait for a consensus on "Gibraltar pound". How does that sound?Dove1950 15:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree "Gibraltarian pound" is fishy and probably should be removed.  "Gibraltar pound" though is very definitely used, and that is what is important, not whether it is "official", so I can't see any reason for expunging it from Wikipedia.  It is still referred to on a Government of G. website:  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 16:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, Gibraltar pound is more applicable. Chris Buttigieg 17:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of "Gibraltar pound" in lead 

message: "Due to Gibraltar's popularity as a tourist destination (compared with other British territories which issue coinage at parity to sterling) and the fact that the coins are almost identical to UK £1 coins, they can be found in circulation in the UK fairly frequently."
I was bold and removed this sentence, due to it making not one not two but three unverified claims, the last of which is unprovable (what is the definition of "fairly frequently"?).  From WP:V: "I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced."  If sources are forthcoming, fine, the removed words can return, otherwise it can quite happily live on this talk page. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 14:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually agree with you now that you've corrected what you meant to remove from the article. The above sentence should be cited if it is to be included. However, I don't see how Gibraltar being a more popular tourist destination than other British overseas territories is particularly relevant to the article (assuming this is true to begin with!). The "fairly frequently" bit seems POV to me. --Gibmetal 77talk 21:55, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GIP coins in UK 

message: I think a lot of the problems being experience on this article are because it is serving multiple subjects and purposes. On close inspection throughout it looks like the subject matter is closer to '(monetary) currency in Gibraltar' rather than trying to explain and define a 'Gibraltar Pound' or GIP etc.
I suggest creating a new entry on the subject of monetary currency in Gibraltar - covering the history, practical circulation etc, but with an introduction going straight to: 'the Pound Sterling is the official currency in Gibraltar' and that both BoE and GoG notes (and coins) are in mixed interchangeable circulation. It would link to this article which would itself be restricted to an explanation of the ISO code GIP and (perhaps) Government of Gibraltar issued currency (explaining that since it is denominated in pounds sterling this sets the parity of GIP to GBP.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GibFusion (talk • contribs) 07:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused subject matter of this article 

message: Here it is said that first two pound coins were issued in 1997. Anyway, this whole article suffers from serious lack of sources. --Oop (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The start of two pound coins? 

message: It was announced that the new 12-sided pound coin will be made available to British territories and dependencies. It's not happened yet, but looks likely that this will be introduced to Gibraltar soon. Bthrussell (talk) 05:02, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  12-sided pound coin