Talk:Race and intelligence/Archive haplo

message: Addressing Crusio's comment, there are markers that could be looked for. for example is the PCSK9 allele, this is all in the context that certain races are more susceptible to certain diseases. Certain races also respond differently to medications. Certain allels are prevalent in only certain races (although there is race mixing as immigration and such, the alleles are still passed on)
I'm sure you all know I'm alluding to NitroMed's BiDil.
http://investors.nitromed.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=130535&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=723543&highlight=
More on DiBil on wiki is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BiDil
In this case, BiDil seems to help heart failure in african americans more then other races. Should we not research into this? 
Would it be racist to give african americans (in the article, they were "self identified black patients") this medicine?
I think a lot of the stigma around nazi's and eugenics and racism has halted the academic freedom into research into this matter. People needs to understand that as an academic, one must have an academic view on things. If a particular drug helps a particular race, then why not use it? But we can't CHOOSE what results produces, we must accept them in order to change. ie. If a particular gene/allele is present in one race that's lacking in others, I must ACKNOWLEDGE the difference in order to help develop methods to create possible genetic cures. Like I said in my previous post here about apples, we must accept the research in order to make decisions to the best our abilities.
To turn a blind eye to this is not only limiting academic freedom, but is an injustice to humanity as a whole. An example is seen in the case of Lysenkoism, which caused famines that killed millions. Darkcurrent 20:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This comment does not have any direct connection with "race and genetics." However, it does illustrate a pitfall where it says "although there is race mixing as immigration and such, the alleles are still passed on." The elleles in question are indeed passed on, but there is no way to predict which children of mixed marriages will get which alleles. That is the nature of [race] -- it's always statistical. Nobody that I know of is saying that black people should not have medicines that are more often helpful for that group than for other groups. But the danger is that simplistic reasoning will be used and the medications that are more probable to help some patients of one [race] will be prescribed for all members of that [race] and adequate follow-ups will not be performed. Some patients, the ones with the appropriate genetic traits, will be helped, but some patients who do not have the appropriate genetic traits will not respond as favorably to those medications as they would to other medications. P0M 04:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

message: there is a dispute on whether Admixture testing can work on Native Americans since they share common haplogroups with Asian populations at Talk:Race_and_genetics#Admixture_studies_in_latin_america and Talk:Race_and_genetics#i_REMOVE_THE_TABLE_IS_WRONGMuntuwandi 00:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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