Talk:Low Countries

message: Last sentence: "However, the plural term "Koninkrijk der Nederlanden" (Kingdom of the Netherlands) still is the official Dutch name of the country."
That is not entirely correct. The official name of the country (the part in continental Europe) is actually "Nederland". The Kingdom also includes Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles, two "dependent" countries in the Carribian. Aruba and the NA have extreme authonomy (they are for instance not even part of the EU), and do definatly not belong to "Nederland".
:You are basically right. Aruba and the Antilles too are countries within the Kingdom — although they are subordinated to the Government of the Kingdom, which just happens to be substantially identical to the government of Nederland :o)--MWAK 09:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: A disambiguation page is needed to remove ambiguities between this page and the South Carolina Lowcounry page.  The Low County redirect page should be modified to redirect to the disambiguation page, not this page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.67.18 (talk) 00:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "disambiguation page needed"

message: The second paragraph says "...more appropriate to romantic descriptions by authors vice useful diplomatic or geographically accurate and well defined meanings"
This doesn't seem to make sense.  Did the author instead mean "versus"? In any case, it's hard to figure what this sentence is saying.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.246.199.195 (talk) 10:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "vice"? 

message: Nonetheless, in modern English usages, the term will occasionally be found, by which is meant the French Netherlands, Kingdom of Belgium and (European main land part) of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
I think it is more commonly used as a description for Belgium and the Netherlands. An alternative for the word Benelux, when Luxemburg doesn't really have anything to do with it.
For example in this article (Within Temptation) I read: In addition they went to work on their second album, releasing Mother Earth in the Low Countries on December 1st. Clearly here only Belgium and The Netherlands is ment, not French Flanders. Another example is the football derby between Belgium and The Netherlands, which is always called the Derby of the Low Countries
That's why I changed the sentence to:
Nonetheless, in modern English usages, the term will occasionally be found, by which is meant the  Kingdom of Belgium and (European main land part) of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Sometimes the French Netherlands are also included in this definition. --Lamadude (talk) 23:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I tend to agree that Luxemburg does not really come into the notion of the Low Countries. On the other hand there is an argument to be made for the inclusion of at least part of the French Flanders.Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern usage 

message: As interesting as the space photo is, it doesn't tell me where, specifically, the Low Countries are. In fact, I just can't figure out (from ANY article) just how there is a difference between the Low Countries and the Netherlands. Can somebody PLEASE do a better job of explaining it, or adding a map that SHOWS the difference? IT'S JUST SO FRUSTRATING! >:@ 74.32.226.113 (talk) 19:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated in the Article, "The low countries" are a lot bigger than the Netherlands and include Belgium and Luxemburg as well (depending on the definition, the borders are not 100% clear. But for example Flanders is always definitely included in any definition of the Low Countries. --Lamadude (talk) 12:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, seriously? Lame. Well, sorry for getting so frustrated. I think I've calmed down a bit since 3 months ago. ;) I still say it needs a map of the area with political borders included; the space picture just doesn't do a very good job of showing that stuff. Sorry again for the frustration, though, and thanks for the quick response (even though I just noticed -_-). 74.32.226.113 (talk) 18:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The political borders between Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxembourg, France and Germany are already on the map (maybe they are not clear enough) and as said before you cannot draw a border around the Low Countries as such because are not clearly defined. Some people use it to refer to the Dutch speaking part of Europe (The Netherlands + Flanders), some people mean The Netherlands + Belgium, while others mean the Benelux plus parts of France (French Flanders) and parts of Germany along the Dutch border. Which is more or less what you can see on the satellite image. --Lamadude (talk) 14:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ... What?! 

message: Yesterday I removed the category BENELUX from this article. It was undone by [1 and described as "Bullshit", which is frankly charming.
Actually, it isn't "Bullshit". Benelux, in the context of the category, does not refer to the geographical entity (and its history) but the economic-customs union established after WWII and possibly any previous economic agreements between the states involved. For the history of Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands - please put it in the appropriate History of... category. Thank you. ---Brigade Piron (talk) 09:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why BENELUX is not an appropriate category for this article. 

message: "A poetic description also calls the region the Low Countries by the Sea." was marked with a 'citation needed' tag. In Dutch, the phrase 'lage landen bij de zee' (low countries near the sea) is well-known. For example it is the title of a very famous history book. In the royal library's catalogue the are eight book titles with the phrase. Now I wonder if it is okay to take the Dutch version into account? Bever (talk) 12:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Poetic description' 

message: "Historically, the term Low Countries arose at the Court of the Dukes of Burgundy, who used the term les pays de par deça ..." – although the House of Burgundy indisputably played a role in shaping the Low Countries, that this was the origin of the term Nederlanden has been thoroughly disputed on :nl:Overleg:Lage Landen. Probably terms for 'low-lying' were already used for the area (though not exclusively) in the Middle Ages. Bever (talk) 13:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name