Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 6

message: With the last archive done, the talk page was left blank, so I'll reiterate for the record what I said several days ago. Since the page itself has practically run out of content to improve, and it still doesn't look like there'll be new official details about the game for a while longer, it might be a good idea to direct our editing focus to the Smash Bros sections of all the character articles in the meantime. Articles like Marth (Fire Emblem), Roy (Fire Emblem), Mr. Game & Watch, Falco Lombardi, and Pichu, among others, might benefit from that. That way, all those articles will be fully ready for proper update when Brawl is released. New editors and anonymous IP addresses might want to edit these other articles for these reasons. Thanks for reading. Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 00:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's really a smart idea, since there's really not alot we can do to improve this page until more major info comes up... and that doesn't look like it's happening anytime soon. We should also decide things about how the article will be structured now, so we don't have to worry later when the game is out. Jjam189 01:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Focus on alternative Smash articles 

message: This is just a rumor, but on the new trailer for SSBB, there was a Yoshi stage, a Fire Emblem stage, and an icy stage. The icy stage could be a Mario stage. Does this mean that they're in the game. PLEASE RESPOND!!! 
===Developer status vote===
Given the links I and others have provided above, what is the party status of SSBB?  Post your answer under the status you believe, first (meaning Nintendo) or unkown.  After 1 week, votes will be tallied and an action taken.  
First
*--The Viper 02:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yoshi, Marth, Roy, and Ice Climbers possibly?

message: Given the links I and others have provided above, what is the party status of SSBB?  Post your answer under the status you believe, first (meaning Nintendo) or unkown.  After 1 week, votes will be tallied and an action taken.  
First
*--The Viper 02:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Developer status vote

message: The article has switched from saying Pikachu is the unofficial mascot of pokemon to the official mascot. I know his popularity is exploited in
most of the spin-off Pokemon games, but I don't recall him every being an official mascot.Tuesday42 01:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pikachu isn't the offical mascot of Pokemon; simply the most well-known/popular. Jjam189 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, but I thought it was going to result in a debate. I tried to pre-empt it by asking for a source.Tuesday42 15:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: About the "every Pokémon game" line - This has been changed because, while minor, there were several Pokémon mini and e-Reader Pokémon games that did not include Pikachu in them. 70.106.204.245 15:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, I should have thought of those.Tuesday42 15:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Pikachu 

message: Maybe for the sake of making this article look nicer and a justification for removing the tags, could we try to weed out the original research in the stages and abilities section?  So what sentences in those sections could be considered original research?  Personally, I think the whole Fire Emblem castle speculation bit should be thrown out.
On another subject, maybe we should get rid of that IGN top 100 games thing, as it tends to constantly change. I mean, suddenly it's at number 8, and I don't know how noteworthy a number 8 game is.Xubelox 05:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing original research

message: Wikipedia pages are suppossed to remain consistent. So why this page is being edited, what seems like almost everyday, escapes me. All the information on this page is based on four things: the trailer, the E3 question-and-answer, and the official American and Japanese websites. It's been that way for weeks now. We haven't receieved any new information on this game. SO STOP EDITING THIS PAGE. Unless we get new information, that's from a reliable source, we should not be editing this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.85.228.129 (talk • contribs) 
:Well, someone's gotta revert the vandals and correct the good-faith but badly made edits.  Not to mention fixing existing typos and other houskeeping chores. --Sparky Lurkdragon 20:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm...I see you (198.85.228.129) removed the Japanese and added Zero Suit Samus with her own section...are you Tj terrorible1? Because he was the only person who did that. -Sukecchi 20:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit by this IP. Edit by Tj terrorible. Sukecchi, they do look similar, don't they? -- Steel 20:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Whoever you are, don't worry; Requesting that people stop editing this page based on the fact it can't be improved any way for the moment is good enough faith, I am led to believe. That is actually kinda the concept I was trying to raise with my Focus on Alternative Smash Articles comment above; What I figure is that while we're waiting for new info, we should focus on editing articles on Smash fighters themselves so that they'll be in better shape. Here's something you should know: Long ago I suggested that we protect this page for the purpose of keeping the noobs who keep editing this page away from it, but I learned that protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure for combatting vandalism. So, I'm sorry to say that in spite of our similar opinions, people will keep on doing it because they like to, and we can only continue to revert edits until new info comes out, however long into the future that may be. That's basically what it's all about. Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 20:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: STOP Editing This Page

message: It shouldn't be "specifics" but "specificities." It is a word. I din't make it up. Plus, "can transform into an energy whip" is wrong. The gun itself doesn't go through any form of change. It's better to say "can extend a laser energy whip." Now the reason why I'm posting this here is because if I post it in the article, someone is just going to change it. So hopefully by looking at this from my point of view, you will make these edits possible. 
Someone keeps deleting "..such as Mario's fireball, which know has a more gaseous appearence." Why? I don't know. But the statement is true and it gives the reader an example of how the moves have been "modified only graphically." Please make this edit possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.85.228.129 (talk • contribs) 
:And you are...?  -SaturnYoshi 22:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be IP address 198.85.228.129. Check the history. bibliomaniac15 23:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Problems:

message: Since when was he a confirmed character? FE411
:It's called vandalism. Jaxad0127 05:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: even though it would be hilarious-Melles Lord of Badgers (69.216.19.159 23:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NOA_Andy!?

message: It is confirmed in the latest issue of the French magazine "Le Jouer" that the following characters will *NOT* return from the previous game: Ice climbers, Mr. Game-n-Watch, and Young Link.
The magazine also confirmed the following now characters: Cell shaded Link (from Windwaker), Bowser Jr., and Ridley (from the Metroid series) Odytoboman 22:05, 05 November 2006
:This is incredibly old information and I think the general consensus was that it was unverified. If somebody can go into more detail than that, though, go for it. --Shadow Hog 07:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is fake, the creators of this rumour admitted it to be fake, 1up still keeps it on their site though Guess who i am 07:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds suspiciously like the Sonic and Tails gag from Super Smash Bros. Melee.  --Luigifan 12:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More character comfirmation

message: Maybe we can make a rumor section and write down whether they are true or false.--Rat235478683--
:No. -- Steel 16:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, as big rumour proven flase have invisi-text in the appropriate area to stop it from being added, to have the section wouldn't add much to the article, as deciding what would be valid for the section would be difficult or it would grow consideriable with every little rumour, and the section would be a target of vandalism. If a rumour comes up that has some validity (as in it is backed by a valid source, like IGN or something), then it would be added to the appropriate section with a source. JQF 17:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumor Section 

message: Astr0ace 20:54 september 21st 2006: Ok their is not a webpage on this but for people in the UK who collect the official nintendo magazine. 
Check page 119 top right corner, last sentence, 
 
It says: "Fox's first appearance on the Wii will be in Super Smash Bros. Brawl" 
Please check this out.
Already dicussed. Not enough evidence to support it. Scroll up. -Sukecchi 20:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fox

message: You know how encyclopedias have pictures to follow certain words. This is wikipedia. Not to mention, there is no picture of Wario on this page at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.217.222 (talk • contribs) 
::Please sign your posts. 
::Adding an image for each character would make the article cluttered. The image at the top of the character section shows everyone. -Sukecchi 18:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost everyone. It doesn't have Snake or Wario. Snake already has a picture on the page (next to his bio). I think we can pacify 66.194.217.222 with a pic of Wario near his bio. Jaxad0127 18:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A picture of Wario should be added, as should a picture of regular Samus, but to give every character their own picture would be too much.Tuesday42 22:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially since that on picture covers almost all of them. Jaxad0127 03:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm...  There was a pic of Wario.  What happened to it??  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 03:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: But for now, when there is only about 10 known characters and all but 3 of them (appearence-wise, I'd say the 2 Samuses are different characters) appear in the same picture, it would be wise to include pictures representing all the characters.Tuesday42 21:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The image will propably be replace as time goes on with a character select screen. Do give your hopes up that some characters will not be on the page. :) 
Starmenclock 19:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Since when has there been an estimate of 30-40? 199.126.137.209 01:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I think the bios would look more professional if there were a screenshot of each character under their bio

message: I gave reliable resources to  that part of the article confirming all of the abilities and items. Can the tag be removed?
Starmenclock 18:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at it and besides something I removed it looked great! You could have just removed it yourself. you know. Remember, Be Bold. If someone thought the tag should've stayed there, they would have put it back.Tuesday42 21:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I resourced '''Items and abilities''' 

message: As with Star Fox Command, the sterilization and removal of game detail in this gaming article has sort of torn it apart. What can we do to expand the article? --Gaming King 19:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First, post this under the starfox command talk, not here. Starmenclock 22:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: GamingKing is saying that about both articles, not just SFC. Jaxad0127 03:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Although I understand what you mean, this article isn't that bad.  It's pretty much always been like this and contains as much detail as there is to know right now.  There just really aren't many details 199.126.137.209 03:39, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, looking at it again, I guess there's not much to be done yet. By the way, changing the title of this talk topic to "Failure" destroys the joke, but that's beside the point. :\ --Gaming King 04:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I thought I was the only one that noticed how...butchered the Star Fox Command page had become.--Claude 06:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failure  

message: The above statement is not fanboy-ish--it's stated on the official website. So please do not delete it EVER again. Thank you. This has been the leading authority of this page...Tj_terrorible1.
:It's true, altough that should be cited (if it isn't already.)Tuesday42 03:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And another thing.  Articles do not have "leading authorities".  Someone needs to get off their high horse.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 06:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...WOW. You still think you control this page even though we TOLD you no one owns an article? Give it up. -Sukecchi 11:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Zero Suit Samus isn't as powerful as she is with her power suit on but more than makes up for this with the speed she gains.

message: Isn't it safe to assume that HAL Laboratories is developing this game, as they have the other Super Smash Bros. games?  RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 14:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assume? That sounds like original research, doesn't it? -- ReyBrujo 16:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assumptions aside, How this game came to be made on the official site says development is not taking place at Hal. 199.126.137.209 00:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out the various links I've provided in the Part Status section above all point to development at a Nintendo created studio at Nintendo Tokyo.--TheViper 02:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This was/is being debated on the talk page already, see Question about party status? and the related vote. The debate had to do with whether the game was 1st-party or not. Tuesday42 21:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Developer 

message: Will this game feature an online mode?  Thank you in advance.  (203.144.160.246 09:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online? 

message: Aside from Wario's new move, have any of these moves been confirmed as actually being in the game and not just part of the trailer? 199.126.137.209 03:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually beleive Wario's gas move IS confirmed to be in the game...it's stated in the official profile for Wario at www.smashbros.com, and the same question came up at the official interview at E3: Sakurai said it will be in the game. It's called the Wario Waft, I beleive. As for the other Super Smash Moves, nothing's been officially confirmed for any character (other than Wario). Darknut Slayer 17:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its confirmed to be in the game, but its not confrimed to be a smash move. Please ready more carefully. Jaxad0127 18:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, my mistake. :P I assumed it to be a Smash Move. Never thought of it just being in the game...Darknut Slayer 01:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Super Smash" moves

message: http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/08202006/10/sonic_to_appear_in_wii_super_smash_bros_brawl
I do not know the format for citing sources, so I thought I'd bring this up. magiciandude 03:23, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll pitch in and look too. If this is legit and this idea actually goes forth, do you know how many people will be happy that Sonic will be included?! (Including me!) Knuckles sonic8 00:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

text: You do realize that Miyamoto is not the one making the game.  Perhaps Sakurai has different opinions about Sonic.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 04:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

text: While there is a strong chance that Sonic may be in the game, I think that it's equally possible that he won't.  And since Sakurai isn't updating the Dojo any time soon, we can't really jump to any conclusions.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 05:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miyamoto believes that Sonic could be a good character for Brawl? 

message: Somebody put the "box art" on the main page.  It looks REALY fake (not to mention lame) and I can't find any confirmation.  Anyone know where it came from? Joiz. A. Shmo 01:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just reverted it, and would recommend you do the same until it's finally deleted. This is clearly a fake (overly enlarged/pixelated Nintendo logo, non-standard Wii frame, characters clipped from promo shots, etc.). The characters are cut from promo shots, and the Wii border is not in line with other boxart, but is instead a poorly attempted replication. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box art? 

message: Months before the announcement of the listed confirmed characters, some sources confirmed Donkey Kong as a character, and were uncertain about Pokémon characters. --Gray PorpoisePhocoenidae, not Delphinidae 00:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide references? Joiz. A. Shmo 02:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would if able. Unfortunately, I can no longer find the website. I think it was on IGN... I'll keep looking. --Gray PorpoisePhocoenidae, not Delphinidae 19:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donkey Kong? 

message: Someone posted that Ridley, Wind-Waker Link, and Bowser Jr.were comfirmed by Sakurai on a Japanese radio show. Is this true?  --Linkmasta 16:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not true or confirmed in any way. The hyperlink to the proof only leads to the same page it's on, so therefore, there is no proof whatsoever to back this up. Also, this is a rumor that's been flying all over the web for a while now, so it's not uncommon to see this rumor posted. However, Wikipedia is not the place for rumors. I'm taking it out of the article, and if the author of the entry has any problem with this, kindly tell me why it should be included in this article. Thank you. :) Darknut Slayer 17:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also doubt that it is true because it has been around for a few months I believe. If that really happened we should of had independent confirmation by now. --65.95.16.167 00:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridley, Wind-Waker Link, and Bowser Jr. comfirmed? 

message: Sounds reasonable.  But I'm sure there's some other good reason opposing it...--the ninth bright shiner talk 00:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shouldn't the Development section come before Characters, Stages, Items and Abilities and Music?

message: okay, is there any evidence that the coin mario grabs is officially the smash coin...? Because while it seems possible to be a smash coin, it could be very well a part of mario's smash move (in which when he begins the smash move he grabs the coin as part ofthe attack)
i'm only saying this because there is the possibilty of variants...there could be smash bars, smash coins, smash charges, Smash Capsules (much like the DBZ series) smash counters....just a lot of possibilities..
:Nah, there's no real evidence.  Link and Kirby aren't seen grabbing it.  However, they are seen with the same fiery aura as Mario after he had picked the coin up.  But that would be speculation.--the ninth bright shiner halloween 21:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Smash coins

message: what happened here where did the info for super smash bros. BRAWL go? the article is now about melee.
:A user kept changing it for some reason.  They've been temporarily blocked.  Oh, and please sign you posts with four tildes (like this:~~~~); it helps make it easier for people to figure out who's saying what.--the ninth bright shiner talk 02:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: what happen?

message: It seems completely and totally useless, it's current format seems smooshed together without any bolds or indents, and it has unconfirmed characters in it.
Anyone notice this too?
64.91.30.172 21:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called vandalism. — Jaxad0127 00:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's with the "Event Match *Suggestions"? 

message: A user by the name of Jaxad has been removing this from the page:
:Additionally, the character must originate from a video game (as written in a response to one fan requesting several anime and manga characters).
He has claimed that he's doing so because it's redundant (everyone on a Nintendo system must have been in a video game!) and that it's not true (mistakenly implying that Pikachu did not originate in video games). Hasn't this rule been put forth? And isn't it notable on its own? It's getting dangerously close to 3Rs, so... --HeroicJay 23:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I read over it again it you're right. I was reading it as they must have appeared in a video game, not that they must have originated in one. — Jaxad0127 02:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pikachu DID originate in a video game, pokemon Red and Green came out before the anime in japan. Sakurai never stated they had to originate in a video game just that they can not have originated in an anime or manga which means all cartoons and comics. James Bond a book character was even on the list 60.229.18.250 04:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Originated in video games 

message: http://gonintendo.com/?p=7628 
"Now I know you are going to love this info. Nintendo will be showing off a brand new trailer for Super Smash Bros. Brawl during their “Nintendo World 2006″ tour. The first tourdate is on November 3rd, so hopefully the trailer will be shown that day. There will also be an unveiling of a new character, which will most likely pop up in the trailer. Man, Friday cannot come soon enough!"
If you need more proof the Japanese SSBB site is updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.141.187.191 (talk • contribs) 
Do we know that this source is reliable? Joiz A. Shmo 15:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes two people implying that there's new content coming real soon. Either it's a double-prank or it's something we must wait for until friday. Here's hoping these guys turn out to speak the truth. :) Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 17:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it's not a prank, seeing as how IGN just confirmed it (http://wii.ign.com/articles/742/742811p1.html). --Linkmasta 18:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we make note of it on the page now, or wait until after it comes out so we know more about it? JQF 19:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it'll be four days until that actually happens, and until then lots of folks will want to be made aware that there is such a thing coming, so I say make note of it on the page now; many would want that, I'm sure. Any actual new information about the games from the trailer themselves won't appear until friday anyway. Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 21:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd like to point out that the JAPANESE official site for Smash Bros. has a mention of the Nintendo world Tour and its dates (NOT the English site, however.) Unable to read Japanese, however, I can't tell the details beyond the dates (given as numbers) and the words "Nintendo World 2000 Wii". --HeroicJay 22:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Regardless, we now have three URLs posted on here saying the same thing. There really is new content for this page coming, then. We'll just have to sit tight for a few days. Thanks for posting. :) Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 22:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, the rumors that it said that new characters will appear have been debunked. However, that doesn't deny the fact that there will be some. We'll have to wait and see to find out if there really are new characters being shown or not. --Ultima 16:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, IGN is reporting that Fox McCloud is in the game. Serious "well, yeah, and...?" moment, but at least, if this info is correct, it's something to add to the article. (I'm willing to wait for the video to come up, though.) --HeroicJay 02:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text:  UPDATE: Someone added it anyway, so I gave the ref and made it not link to Fox. --HeroicJay 02:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well well! IGN has officially seen the trailer, and they officially say that Fox is in there. Since IGN is a source that can be cited by articles, I believe there is nothing stopping anyone from adding Fox's name to the brawl character list now. Someone get right to it! Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 02:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: As you can see, Fox has been confirmed after all. It's safe to leave him right where he is, now. --Ultima 20:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: OMG, it's 'deh Star Fox! Well, we got that confirmation now. Wonder if we'll see any NEW additions to the game, though, as opposed to the confirmation of a return character? Really, though, it was obvious that Fox would appear. I do like the level designs, though. Too bad we don't actually ride on Halberd... or do we...? --Ultima 16:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for that link. :) Lots of new stages... including one that appears to be in space (1:24). —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Trailer to Appear this Friday 

message: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=19640938207392314&q=brawl+trailer This is the Japanese trailer that everyone was mistranslation the announcement about. I've already updating MetaKnight's info with the fact that he glides. Add more as you see fit. --70.158.160.6 14:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OMG, it's 'deh Star Fox! Well, we got that confirmation now. Wonder if we'll see any NEW additions to the game, though, as opposed to the confirmation of a return character? Really, though, it was obvious that Fox would appear. I do like the level designs, though. Too bad we don't actually ride on Halberd... or do we...? --Ultima 16:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for that link. :) Lots of new stages... including one that appears to be in space (1:24). —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Information 

message: Should we move the info about the trailer/pictures to the top? --Linkmasta 03:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. Joiz A. Shmo 04:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind then.--Linkmasta 13:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Trailer/Pictures Info 

message: Should the confirmed characters section only have the playable characters? The trailers have featured shy guys and a nintendog. Should they be mentioned in 
that section, or elsewhere? Tuesday42 22:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Characters section is for playable only. -Sukecchi 22:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If so, shouldn't the section be called "Playable Characters"?Tuesday42 01:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you call eggs & toast an "Edible Breakfast"? Characters is specific enough, thanks. Coreycubed 13:56, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Video game characters and food are entirely different. Do you call the jelly on toast "Inedible Breakfast", despite the fact that it's still edible, just not primary composition of the meal? --Gray PorpoisePhocoenidae, not Delphinidae 22:35, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice point there, but "confirmed characters" almost always means "confirmed playable characters."  NPCs could be added to List of Super Smash Bros. series NPCs.--the ninth bright shiner talk 02:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  characters 

message: "Fox McCloud's new Brawl look. It is a combination of the Command, Assault and Adventures versions of Fox." That's what it says underneath the picture of Fox, what does it feature from his Adventures look, he is very different from Adventures and even Assault, from what I can tell he is purely based off Command. For now I have removed the statement because it's not official or obvious. Guess who i am 03:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His boots are much larger than they are in Advetures and they are different colour and shape 60.229.18.250 04:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Still doesn't matter. See how they come up to his knee? That was taken from Adventures. See their general shape? That was probably taken from Assault. See his head? That was taken from Command. See his jacket? That was his original costume. See the combination of costumes? Now, unless you have reasonable reasons to take this off, leave it on. - Seros *to lazy to log in*
Dont take that part off, I mean, It is mre like a "general culture" thing and well we can erase it whenever Nintendo states the contrary (I dont like Fox's new face :( ) Sain
The boots are not based off anything I mean they are rounded and clown shaped, they come up to his knees sure but that doesn't mean they are based off that, it should be removed, it really isn't anything helpful anyway it's a piece of trivial nonsensce that doesn't need to be there anyway. Guess who i am 07:19, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fox's Looks

message: Is there a link confirming this information? 70.173.177.192 06:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. --HeroicJay 19:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  What the heck is a "Shadow Moses" stage?  --Luigifan 20:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Snake's stage. --Shadow Hog 21:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shadow Moses Stage 

message: I was thinking about many characters with his skils or abilitis as:
1)-krystal:That she with her staff could make many quikcombos and can be quikly and could do  special attaks like the the ground qwake ice blast fire blast... from star fox aventures and star fox assault
2)-bomberman:That his weapon is bombs as a blue bomb that exploits up the red one that it exploits towards the sides...
3)-ike : from fire emblem 
best number 1 character and number 3 but 1 is beter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.88.254.116 (talk • contribs) 21:58, November 5, 2006
:Sounds pretty cool. Unfortunately, Wikipedia--and this page--is an encyclopædia, and not a forum. There are enough of those already, and quite a few are devoted to Brawl. Please post theories such as those there. Thanks! --Ourai т с 04:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  characters (reals) 

message: List of characters in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I created this article for future use, due to the fact that their is a melee character list.Starmenclock 19:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: . -- Steel 19:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The Melee character article, though, is really odd IMO; it's just a listing without any overview for the characters. It might be better if we discuss on whether to have separate articles for lists of characters for each of the three games, or have one article that covers all three games' overall collection of characters, or to just have all characters listed in Super Smash Bros. series, or to have each of the three game articles carry their respective lists within them. (That's four alternatives... Definitely need for a discussion there.) Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 19:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Which idea? I support a unified listing for all three games. — Jaxad0127 00:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brawl list 

message: Fox Will not use the adventures staff, Sakurai has expressed intrest in Krystal (the true weilder of the staff) and her staff and plus with Fox holding his gun that pretty much garuntee he's not going to use it. Guess who i am 20:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Your point is? Comrade Pajitnov 20:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe he/she's refering to the comment in Fox's section about how he's SPECULATED to carry the staff. And last I checked, speculations aren't allowed! 12.26.69.43 03:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oop... looks like someone removed it now. 12.26.69.43 03:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adventures Staff

message: Shouldn't the external links section have a link to the new trailer released November 3rd? --Eth123 00:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links should have a link to the newly released trailer. 

message: Could someone go ahead and expand that section? We know quite a few stages now from info provided by the trailers. It could be done with bullet points, maybe. Everything tastes better with bullet points. PS, that temple ruins stage doesn't just "appear" to be from Kid Icarus, it actually is. Didn't you spot the statue of the goddess Palutena in the background?--Ninty 19:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it needs embiggening; it seems cromulent enough as it is. Plus, going solely by the trailers, which don't spell out the stages, even if an educated guess can be made, goes against the rules on Original Research. Of course, if a games magazine goes ahead and joins the dots, then by all means it can be put in (with cites!). Laïka 20:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Scott said looks like. >_> -Sukecchi 21:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stages Section Needs Embiggening

message: What about Ninten? It was confirmed on the Oprah Winfrey show that he'd be in, but the section was deleted about him.
--24.180.237.243 22:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What!?!  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 22:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oprah Winfrey isn't exactly renouned for her incisive, exclusive, ground-breaking video game journalism. Laïka 22:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think she's ever even had a video game designer on her show.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 22:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Are you sure!  Her website mentions nothing about Shigeru Miyamoto on today's show.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I think someone was pulling your leg, Rat.  You're too easily tricked.  Her website would have included such an interview.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: My mistake, Rat, sorry.  But still, I stand by what I said of her website.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ninten 

message: Dude984, I reverted your table back to the original version. It was fine the way it was, and your table had a bunch of spelling and informational errors in it anyways. Comrade Pajitnov 19:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I removed the table version of the stage list 

message: minor note: spell Star Fox the right way near the end. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.132 (talk • contribs) .
What do you mean? Minor note, sign your posts FullMetal Falcon 00:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fox's section