Talk:List of United States cities by crime rate

message: i didnt know i could edit Three-digit numbers are sorted separately from four-digit numbers, from five-digit, etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.213.186 (talk) 08:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly looks like an error.  I'll look into generating new tables, like the homicides one - probably for cities over 50,000 population and not 10,000. -Aude (talk | contribs) 15:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: As of September 26, 2006, the 2005 data is available.  If nobody gets to it before me, I will change some criteria (e.g., city size cut off at 300,000 rather than 400 on murder rate) and changing the criteria for most dangerous and least dangerous as the basis of population is misleading (where one crime can alter a small town's standing).  All I have to do now is figure how to easily do Wiki tables.  Americasroof 20:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005 Data

message: When I rewrite the tables, I will move this article and discussion to United States cities by crime rate (2004)  Americasroof 21:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving 2004 data

message: The header "state" is not correct, since the list also contains "District of Columbia", which is not a state. I advocate changing the header of the first column in the table to "territory", "district" or something more general.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.58.146 (talk) 18:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Territory has a very specific legal definition that neither states nor the District of Columbia meet. One title is correct for 0%, one for 98%. I think 98% (state) is better. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 19:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Column header "state" 

message: The by-city rankings have been criticized as being inaccurate due to the arbitrariness of which suburbs, if any, are included in a city's legal boundries.  Some people say that statistics by Metropolitan Statistical Area are more meaningful.  The 2005 MSA crime stats are available from the FBI  and would make an excellent companion article. -- Beland 18:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MSA data 

message: The FBI provides data an crime for cities and MSAs.  But it specifically cautions against ranking cities against each other.  City limit configurations within large MSAs vary widely between those just encircling the old inner core areas of an MSA - (city A), to those that include most of the low crime affluent suburbs of their MSA (city B).  So ranking by city limits is wildly inaccurate and unfair for cities within large MSAs, and says nothing about whether one is safer in the core of city A or city B, or whether one is safer in the suburbs of city A or city B.  I suggest we just list the cities and their stats alphabetically, like the FBI does, to merely present the data, rather than try to "rank" by city limits.
If we must have a ranking, an MSA ranking might be more accurate, since MSA boundaries are defined by population statistics of a metro area, and not by arbitrary political boundaries.  So comparing MSAs is closer to comparing apples and apples.
Gary Kreie 03:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FBI Cities Crime Ranking  

message: User:Taco325i edited the article and replaced Murder with Homicide. This has made those crime statistics invalid. -- Cameron Dewe 03:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder vs Homicide statistics 

message: 2006 Stats are now available
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/index.html
There's a great big disclaimer at the opening of the site cautioning against comparing cities.  Americasroof 01:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006 Stats Now Available

message: Some of this data conflicts with City-data's list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.93.168 (talk) 18:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Data

message: The latest crime numbers have been available, here, for quite some time now:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/index.html
Anyone want to take a crack at updating the list? --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a crack at updating the list.  The specific table is Table 8 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_08.html  However after compiling it and getting ready to post it, I discovered major integrity issues with the fed data starting with Kansas City, Missouri missing from the data (and no explanation for such an omission).  Further there were huge population swings including New Orleans going from 400,000+ in 2006 100,000 in 2007.  And that's just what I caught eyeballing it.  I sent an email to UCR.  Americasroof (talk) 03:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The FBI responded to my email very quickly.  The data is strictly based on cities meeting deadlines and apparently Kansas City, Missouri missed the deadline.  The data on the website is still preliminary with the final coming out in February 2009.  It is using the smaller New Orleans population now.  I have it on my other computer and will try to post it tonight. Compiling it is a pain in the #@#$ especially if they are still changing it.Americasroof (talk) 14:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but why are the decimals taken out of the murder rates, for instance, and what happen to the actual murder count?  And what happen to the nice color dividers?  It would seem that all that needed to be done was to change the numbers instead of changing the entire format, no?  BTW, don't worry about them changing the numbers.  People will change them as they change them, it was just imperative that we updated the numbers. --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to keep it in the same structure as the original FBI spreadsheet and keep it strictly ratios rather than showing the numbers.  The colors were not customary to Wikipedia. Americasroof (talk) 04:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but there were decimals in the murder rate, and the actual murder counts were listed.  There is enough difference between say 45.1 and 45.9, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to dumb the list down to whole numbers.--Criticalthinker (talk) 03:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will try to rerun it in the next week or so reflecting the decimals.  This is one of those pages that opens a can of worms since it is often and subtitliy vandalized. 14:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 Crime Numbers for Cities Available

message: If I didn't know any better I think it was a fluke, but it appears to be a correctly calculated rate.  Does Minneapolis just happen to report rape better than most other areas?  I mean, the rate is three times that of Detroit. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Minneapolis Forcible Rate

message: If the title of this article is fully unqualified, it gives a presentation that appears to be comprehensive.  The list seems to be a random selection of cities, as opposed to a ranking of some subgroup of U.S. cities, and as such gives an incomplete (or, in some instances, completely false interpretation of data.  We need to qualify this list and then ensure that it contains a comprehensive list of those qualifications.  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 00:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies 

message: Why is the initial presentation of crime data ranked by the murder rate? If we're trying to avoid "ranking" the cities and simply provide users with the data, then the cities should be ordered in a neutral manner, such as alphabetical by name. Best, epicAdam(talk) 01:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inititial presentation of data 

message: Why is Kansas City listed if there is no data for it? 131.215.171.162 (talk) 23:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So that people know that there's no data for it and don't go looking. Best, epicAdam(talk) 23:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kansas City 

message: Go check them out, and someone can begin changing the list:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/index.html
--Criticalthinker (talk) 03:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those stats are very preliminary. They don't even include half the cities on this list. I recommend that we wait until the fall when the full report is issued. Best, epicAdam(talk) 03:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, now the full report is out:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html
--Criticalthinker (talk) 09:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

text: The table is at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/documents/08tbl08.xls  It's a pain to parse (and per discussion we translate it to rates -- which the FBI cautions against).  I've done it the last three years.  I keep hoping somebody else will do it.  If nobody comes forward in the next couple of weeks, I will do it again using the methodology of the past three years. Americasroof (talk) 15:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know what you mean, and it's probably why no one else is doing it. --173.104.22.74 (talk) 10:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So, just to be clear, are you dead-set against updating this? --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I eliminated all formatting using http://excel2wiki.net/index.php which dramatically reduces the size of the article.  The text needs tweaking but the 2008 data is at last up! Americasroof (talk) 22:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, what exactly is wrong with the text?  If I know the problem, I may try to fix it, because it is rather distracting. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 Stats Now Available 

message: Why does this article still cite 2007 data?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.8.31.47 (talk) 02:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's now 2009 

message: The 2009 table is now available  (following its usual schedule of being available each September) and the specific excel table is here.  If somebody else wants to redo the page have at it, otherwise I will try to post the updated table in the next week.Americasroof (talk) 17:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 2009 data now available

message: Apparently Chicago is the crime capitol of the USA. The real crime is this chart is so inaccurate it either needs t be deleted or totally redone, as it is it is of no value whatsoever  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.174.242 (talk) 04:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This was vandalism which I reverted.  There was also a subtle vandalism here.  Chicago's violent crime rate was intentionally left blank because its information was incomplete.  That edit opened up a series of problems which in turn was vandalized again.Americasroof (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago 

message: I've noticed that cities that are split between two states are just labeled under one. For example, St. Louis is half in Missouri and half in Illinois. Kansas City is also split with Kansas and Missouri. However, these cities only show as being in Missouri which skews the actual data. This is a problem because in St. Louis if you cross the state border the laws greatly change. East St. Louis is in Illinois where the crime is much higher compared to West St. Louis, but the data places East St. Louis in Missouri. 
The laws are so different in these two states that the data reflects a state's crime rate incorrectly. When St. Louis pops up on Missouri and the crime is high due to East St. Louis it does not reflect correctly on Illinois and instead reflects incorrectly on Missouri. If the laws in Missouri vs Illinois are so different then the data will not represent anything useful and will instead create more confusion. All this, IMHO of course... 64.207.245.230 (talk) 17:42, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: East St. Louis, Illinois and Kansas City, Kansas are different legal entities from their bigger sister cities.Americasroof (talk) 18:19, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two states, one city... 

message: Obviously Indianapolis, IN is a U.S. city with > 250,000 pop.
It's data needs to be added (back?).
Kerander (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no statistics because Indianapolis failed to report. -epicAdam(talk) 12:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indianapolis, IN is missing 

message: Yes, yes I know it's a territory and not a state but Puerto Ricans are native born US citizens and San Juan is an American city with 395,000 people. What are it's crime statistics? It should be pretty high on the list if not the highest violent crime rate in the nation.69.115.242.114 (talk) 00:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Puerto Rico crime data is not tracked by the FBI and is therefore not included here. epicAdam(talk) 01:41, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: PR was actually included in the data in 2011 but I did not include it.Americasroof (talk) 20:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone have an up to date source for crime data in San Juan or other municipalities of Puerto Rico?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.83.192 (talk) 21:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: San Juan, Puerto Rico 

message: The 2011 data which arrived significantly later than usual is presented in a manner by the FBI to make it difficult to make comparisons so it took considerable parsing.  The new data is sorted by MSA's and so I had to parse out the cities as the FBI would prefer an analysis by metropolitan area (which is still difficult to parse).  By restricting the presentation to MSA's the data does not include a lot of smaller towns that were included before.  The data also no longer includes arson.Americasroof (talk) 20:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 2011 data

message: The 2011 data seems to have Henderson as it's own city apart from Las Vegas. Yet it is not on the table
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table8statecuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_nevada_by_city_2011.xls
Pacomartin (talk) 20:14, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 2011 data Henderson NV

message: Chicago's murder rate data reported here doesn't match what's on the 2011 report. It's not even close. Am I missing something? Rklawton (talk) 12:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Chicago

message: The article shows Ann Arbor has having the highest murder rate per 100,00 in america.  The FBI MSA rate (on the cited link) is 2.3 (not the over 50 rate currently in the article).  It also lists the population incorrectly.  The listed population--346,974-- is actually the population of New Orleans, which is currently not listed on the chart.  That said, the rest of the numbers aren't quite perfect for New Orleans either (also it used the City pop, not the full MSA).
It seems that at the very least someone confused Ann Arbor and New Orleans when they made the chart, but I wonder if there are bigger issues with the rest of the numbers??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:3D80:2B9:709C:8059:8369:EFC5 (talk) 23:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Ann Arbor vs New Orleans

message: 2012 is available.  I will take a stab at parsing it in the next week or so unless somebody else wants to do it. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012  Americasroof (talk) 17:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 2012 available now

message: I came to this page looking for statistics on Columbus Ohio specifically, but I was confused when I didn't see it on the list. Any idea why not? 24.160.162.146 (talk) 03:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Columbus Ohio not on the list?

message: This section of the article goes into a decent amount of detail as to how crime statistics are not an accurate portrayal of criminal behavior in a particular city. If that is the case, great, but it also begs the question as to what exactly is a better way to evaluate the impact of crimes in cities? Saying that figures are inaccurate is not a very convincing passage when no superior alternative is presented. This is particularly upsetting since many other articles use these same statistics for the success or failure of law enforcement initiatives, as evidenced Here. We must be consistent. We can't tote these numbers as a sign of progress on some articles and then turn around and say they are less than pertinent on others.--Supaflyrobby (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of ranking crime data 

message: The data was just updated, but that means the page title is now wrong. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. -SColombo (talk) 23:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Please update the table. Here is a 2015 version from the FBI source
State               	City                                    	Population	Violent Crime	Murder and
Nonnegligent Manslaughter	Rape 	Robbery	Aggravated Assault	Property Crime	Burglary	Larceny-Theft	Motor Vehicle Theft	Arson1
New Mexico          	Albuquerque                             	559,721   	965.8        	7.7 	72.2 	301.2  	584.8             	6073.2        	1071.2  	4076.7       	925.3              	15.9
California          	Anaheim                                 	349,471   	363.7        	5.2 	36.9 	125.6  	196.0             	2872.3        	422.4   	1972.4       	477.6              	8.0
Alaska              	Anchorage                               	301,239   	1070.9       	8.6 	171.6	206.1  	684.5             	3917.5        	559.4   	2975.0       	383.1              	35.2
Texas               	Arlington                               	387,565   	502.1        	2.1 	53.7 	136.5  	309.9             	3443.6        	559.9   	2657.1       	226.5              	7.5
Georgia             	Atlanta                                 	464,710   	1119.6       	20.2	36.6 	429.3  	633.5             	5499.3        	1028.8  	3549.1       	921.4              	10.8
Colorado            	Aurora                                  	360,237   	460.8        	6.7 	97.7 	124.1  	232.3             	2936.7        	467.2   	2119.4       	350.0              	17.8
Texas               	Austin                                  	938,728   	372.5        	2.5 	51.9 	99.0   	219.2             	3771.0        	532.6   	2990.0       	248.3              	9.7
California          	Bakersfield                             	373,887   	484.1        	5.9 	19.0 	175.2  	284.0             	4161.4        	1036.9  	2484.2       	640.3              	90.7
Maryland            	Baltimore                               	621,252   	1535.9       	55.4	46.2 	694.2  	740.1             	4980.4        	1248.6  	2842.3       	889.5              	41.9
Massachusetts       	Boston                                  	665,258   	706.8        	5.7 	36.1 	233.1  	431.9             	2316.1        	354.3   	1769.5       	192.3              	N/A
New York            	Buffalo                                 	258,096   	1118.6       	15.9	67.0 	400.2  	635.4             	4330.2        	1076.0  	2875.3       	378.9              	67.0
Arizona             	Chandler                                	258,875   	189.3        	0.4 	30.5 	44.0   	114.3             	2083.2        	297.4   	1686.9       	98.9               	17.4
North Carolina      	Charlotte-Mecklenburg                   	877,817   	677.6        	6.9 	24.6 	221.8  	424.2             	3767.9        	769.5   	2744.4       	253.9              	24.6
Illinois            	Chicago                                 	2,728,695 	903.8        	17.5	52.5 	353.6  	480.2             	2946.3        	482.0   	2089.7       	374.6              	19.6
California          	Chula Vista                             	265,215   	265.8        	2.3 	23.8 	90.1   	149.7             	1741.6        	267.7   	1166.2       	307.7              	10.2
Ohio                	Cincinnati                              	298,478   	925.0        	22.1	79.1 	423.1  	400.7             	5510.0        	1478.5  	3642.8       	388.6              	147.4
Ohio                	Cleveland*                              	388,655   	1334.3       	16.2	124.0	769.3  	424.8             	5434.4        	1787.7  	2659.2       	987.5              	78.2
Colorado            	Colorado Springs                        	452,410   	438.3        	5.5 	75.4 	83.1   	274.3             	3648.0        	533.6   	2732.7       	381.7              	27.9
Ohio                	Columbus                                	847,745   	546.3        	9.1 	95.1 	264.2  	177.9             	3934.3        	851.6   	2715.6       	367.2              	47.8
Texas               	Corpus Christi                          	324,326   	645.0        	5.2 	86.9 	121.5  	431.4             	3465.6        	674.6   	2632.8       	158.2              	18.2
Texas               	Dallas                                  	1,301,977 	694.2        	10.4	60.1 	320.8  	302.8             	3440.2        	854.2   	2002.8       	583.3              	26.8
Colorado            	Denver                                  	682,418   	673.9        	7.8 	80.3 	180.2  	405.6             	3529.9        	697.8   	2192.5       	639.6              	16.4
Michigan            	Detroit                                 	673,225   	1759.6       	43.8	78.7 	513.5  	1123.5            	4093.6        	1161.6  	2157.2       	774.8              	125.1
North Carolina      	Durham                                  	257,911   	847.2        	13.2	28.7 	286.1  	519.2             	4115.8        	1234.5  	2644.7       	236.5              	12.0
Texas               	El Paso                                 	686,077   	366.6        	2.5 	46.9 	59.8   	257.4             	1914.2        	206.8   	1591.1       	116.3              	8.3
Indiana             	Fort Wayne                              	259,712   	378.9        	9.6 	37.3 	171.7  	160.2             	3058.4        	569.9   	2360.7       	127.8              	18.9
Texas               	Fort Worth                              	829,731   	525.4        	6.7 	62.2 	118.2  	338.2             	3585.7        	723.7   	2589.9       	272.1              	17.1
California          	Fresno                                  	520,837   	551.2        	7.5 	32.1 	194.3  	317.4             	4148.3        	850.4   	2723.3       	574.7              	49.0
North Carolina      	Greensboro                              	285,950   	597.0        	9.1 	25.2 	185.3  	377.3             	3568.5        	828.5   	2551.5       	188.5              	34.6
Nevada              	Henderson                               	282,554   	168.5        	1.4 	34.7 	63.7   	68.7              	1893.1        	479.9   	1225.6       	187.6              	7.1
Hawaii              	Honolulu                                	999,307   	243.9        	1.5 	31.8 	89.7   	120.9             	3110.7        	428.7   	2294.6       	387.4              	23.1
Texas               	Houston                                 	2,275,221 	966.7        	13.3	43.3 	451.7  	458.3             	4397.5        	872.8   	2928.7       	596.0              	29.5
Indiana             	Indianapolis                            	863,675   	1288.0       	17.1	78.4 	440.2  	752.3             	4790.8        	1283.5  	2929.5       	577.9              	N/A
California          	Irvine                                  	258,198   	55.8         	0.8 	10.5 	22.1   	22.5              	1498.1        	202.6   	1217.7       	77.8               	3.1
Florida             	Jacksonville                            	867,258   	648.3        	11.2	54.3 	161.2  	421.6             	3673.0        	701.3   	2704.6       	267.0              	8.2
New Jersey          	Jersey City                             	265,159   	521.6        	10.2	36.6 	207.0  	267.8             	1594.9        	368.1   	998.6        	228.2              	23.4
Missouri            	Kansas City                             	473,373   	1417.3       	23.0	77.3 	359.8  	957.2             	4441.3        	1029.0  	2587.6       	824.7              	41.8
Texas               	Laredo                                  	256,280   	379.3        	3.1 	51.9 	63.2   	261.0             	3370.9        	405.8   	2843.8       	121.4              	34.3
Nevada              	Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department	1,562,134 	920.7        	8.1 	70.9 	320.7  	521.0             	2995.3        	952.3   	1537.0       	506.0              	8.6
Kentucky            	Lexington                               	314,077   	332.4        	4.8 	51.9 	162.7  	113.0             	3949.7        	797.6   	2834.0       	318.1              	15.0
Nebraska            	Lincoln                                 	276,585   	370.6        	0.4 	69.8 	77.4   	223.1             	3265.9        	480.1   	2655.2       	130.5              	32.9
California          	Long Beach                              	476,318   	580.7        	7.6 	37.2 	221.3  	314.7             	3010.0        	649.6   	1766.3       	594.1              	14.5
California          	Los Angeles                             	3,962,726 	634.8        	7.1 	55.7 	225.9  	346.0             	2359.6        	407.8   	1544.2       	407.6              	28.5
Kentucky            	Louisville Metro                        	680,550   	631.8        	11.9	30.1 	227.0  	362.8             	4166.0        	922.3   	2769.8       	473.9              	N/A
Tennessee           	Memphis                                 	657,936   	1740.1       	20.5	80.6 	475.9  	1163.2            	5630.8        	1561.2  	3655.2       	414.3              	45.9
Arizona             	Mesa                                    	471,034   	418.7        	3.4 	51.2 	86.6   	277.5             	2527.4        	471.1   	1881.2       	175.1              	17.0
Florida             	Miami                                   	437,969   	1021.3       	17.1	18.3 	383.8  	602.1             	4367.4        	709.9   	3132.9       	524.7              	20.8
Wisconsin           	Milwaukee                               	600,400   	1596.1       	24.2	72.6 	624.4  	874.9             	4264.2        	912.9   	2122.1       	1229.2             	37.1
Minnesota           	Minneapolis                             	413,479   	1062.9       	11.4	98.4 	458.5  	494.6             	4193.9        	859.8   	2918.9       	415.3              	28.1
Alabama             	Mobile2                                 	250,346   	610.8        	9.6 	46.3 	160.6  	394.3             	4311.6        	882.0   	3186.4       	243.3              	N/A
Tennessee           	Nashville Metropolitan                  	658,029   	1101.0       	10.9	77.0 	280.7  	732.3             	3805.8        	779.9   	2805.8       	220.1              	8.1
Louisiana           	New Orleans                             	393,447   	949.6        	41.7	104.0	380.5  	423.4             	3874.2        	736.6   	2497.9       	639.7              	9.1
New York            	New York                                	8,550,861 	585.8        	4.1 	26.2 	198.2  	357.2             	1518.7        	164.9   	1267.4       	86.4               	N/A
New Jersey          	Newark*                                 	279,110   	1077.7       	33.3	17.6 	688.6  	338.2             	2851.2        	622.0   	1365.1       	864.2              	14.0
California          	Oakland                                 	419,481   	1442.5       	20.3	67.9 	784.3  	570.0             	5856.8        	794.6   	3539.1       	1523.1             	42.7
Oklahoma            	Oklahoma City                           	630,621   	765.6        	11.6	76.1 	189.0  	488.9             	3956.1        	923.4   	2573.3       	459.4              	14.7
Nebraska            	Omaha                                   	452,252   	515.0        	10.6	38.5 	144.8  	321.1             	3595.6        	477.6   	2555.7       	562.3              	17.9
Florida             	Orlando                                 	268,438   	940.6        	11.9	67.8 	194.5  	666.4             	6015.5        	1267.0  	4309.0       	439.6              	14.5
Pennsylvania        	Philadelphia                            	1,567,810 	1029.0       	17.9	84.3 	431.5  	495.3             	3147.4        	515.6   	2310.7       	321.1              	21.0
Arizona             	Phoenix                                 	1,559,744 	593.8        	7.2 	65.1 	193.6  	327.8             	3491.3        	820.5   	2198.3       	472.5              	N/A
Pennsylvania        	Pittsburgh                              	306,870   	706.2        	18.6	26.7 	279.6  	381.3             	3224.5        	715.9   	2312.7       	195.8              	56.0
Texas               	Plano                                   	282,968   	153.0        	1.4 	32.2 	41.0   	78.5              	1799.1        	260.1   	1442.9       	96.1               	6.7
Oregon              	Portland*                               	615,672   	472.8        	4.2 	42.6 	137.6  	288.5             	5234.8        	673.4   	4013.0       	548.3              	27.0
North Carolina      	Raleigh**                               	428,993   	392.3        	2.8 	18.4 	141.0  	230.1             	3063.0        	735.9   	2162.7       	164.3              	12.6
California          	Riverside                               	323,064   	446.0        	3.1 	42.4 	161.0  	239.6             	3259.7        	505.5   	2211.3       	542.9              	22.0
California          	Sacramento                              	489,717   	737.4        	8.8 	21.4 	239.7  	467.4             	3369.5        	758.2   	2014.4       	596.9              	28.6
Texas               	San Antonio                             	1,463,586 	587.2        	6.4 	71.7 	135.7  	373.4             	5029.5        	794.8   	3812.8       	422.0              	17.8
California          	San Diego                               	1,400,467 	398.6        	2.6 	40.4 	98.4   	257.1             	2082.0        	366.2   	1351.9       	363.9              	12.4
California          	San Francisco                           	863,782   	776.8        	6.1 	39.8 	417.9  	312.9             	6138.0        	600.4   	4737.1       	800.5              	31.5
California          	San Jose                                	1,031,458 	329.6        	2.9 	36.4 	110.5  	179.8             	2427.1        	474.7   	1273.7       	678.7              	9.0
California          	Santa Ana                               	337,304   	482.1        	3.6 	45.7 	155.1  	277.8             	2155.3        	269.5   	1332.3       	553.5              	11.0
Washington          	Seattle                                 	683,700   	598.7        	3.4 	21.1 	224.1  	350.2             	5522.0        	1122.9  	3831.9       	567.2              	13.5
Missouri            	St. Louis                               	317,095   	1817.1       	59.3	82.9 	564.5  	1110.4            	6316.1        	1325.2  	3998.8       	992.1              	70.3
Minnesota           	St. Paul                                	300,721   	703.3        	5.3 	67.8 	237.4  	392.7             	3282.1        	706.6   	1994.2       	581.3              	39.9
Florida             	St. Petersburg                          	255,821   	741.9        	5.5 	53.2 	224.0  	459.3             	5622.7        	906.5   	4120.9       	595.3              	25.0
California          	Stockton                                	304,890   	1352.0       	16.1	44.3 	375.2  	916.4             	4263.2        	948.2   	2662.9       	652.0              	33.8
Florida             	Tampa                                   	364,383   	630.7        	9.3 	21.1 	184.1  	416.0             	2295.9        	503.0   	1629.3       	163.6              	14.8
Ohio                	Toledo                                  	279,552   	1128.9       	8.6 	81.6 	322.7  	716.1             	4475.0        	1476.3  	2676.8       	321.9              	N/A
Arizona             	Tucson                                  	529,675   	655.5        	5.9 	79.7 	199.9  	370.0             	6642.8        	691.7   	5586.8       	364.2              	22.1
Oklahoma            	Tulsa                                   	401,520   	903.6        	13.7	90.9 	212.7  	586.3             	5203.2        	1372.8  	3170.2       	660.2              	43.3
Virginia            	Virginia Beach                          	452,797   	138.3        	4.2 	22.7 	59.6   	51.7              	2205.6        	211.1   	1898.4       	96.1               	21.0
District Of Columbia	Washington                              	672,228   	1202.6       	24.1	73.5 	506.4  	598.6             	4516.2        	442.0   	3599.1       	475.1              	N/A
Kansas              	Wichita                                 	389,824   	984.8        	6.9 	89.5 	188.0  	700.3             	5041.2        	892.7   	3623.9       	524.6              	33.1
Notes: * 2014 Data
** 2013 Data
1 The FBI does not publish arson data unless it receives data from either the agency or the state for all 12 months of the calendar year.
2 The population for the city of Mobile, Alabama, includes 55,819 inhabitants from the jurisdiction of the Mobile County Sheriff's Department.
 73.223.97.97 (talk) 07:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — Train2104 (t • c) 15:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: This article is very inaccurate upon spot checking. For example, it says the data is from 2014 but lists Chicago's homicide rate as 28.7 per 100,000 people. This is extremely inaccurate. According to the FBI UCR table 6 from 2014 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-6), Chicago's homicide rate was 15.09 per 100K. Furthermore, this appears to be an attempt at introducing 2016 data into a table about 2014 rates. The official 2016 rate via the FBI UCR table 6 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-6/table-6.xls/view) was 28.07 per 100K for Chicago. As every city's data has not been updated, the ranking is therefore inaccurate (for example, Chicago in this table is listed as top 5 homicide rate, but in 2014 it was not top 15, and for 2016 it is 9th highest).
This article needs to be updated - it's misleading, inaccurate, and out of date.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marothisu (talk • contribs) 23:53, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: The city and state names in the table do not link to their respective articles. Also, the article title and the talk page title are inconsistent — the former is titled "List of United States cities by crime rate" while the latter is "List of United States cities by crime rate (2014)", even though the data in the article is actually from 2017. Can someone please add links? I am a new user — this page is semi-protected and I cannot edit it. Sanjay7373 (talk) 22:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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message: Can someone update the information to 2019 instead of 2014? Also, Why isn't Utah not on there? Does it mean Utah doesn't have any crimes?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 25awesomeguy (talk • contribs) 03:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's 2019 

message: If WP just lists cities, that is very selective. Why not all counties?--Einar Moses Wohltun (talk) 19:29, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why only cities, not all counties 

message: Can someone help me and edit this page? The wrong statistics were used and Mobile, AL shouldn't be at the top of this list and I'm tired of correcting people.
https://mynbc15.com/news/local/wrong-crime-stats-used-to-rank-mobile-2nd-most-dangerous-in-country
The list Forbes published is based on analysis MoneyGeek performed using 2021 crime statistics reported to the FBI and academic research on the cost of crime. It showed Mobile was more dangerous than cities with higher murder rates like Birmingham, Baltimore, Memphis, Detroit, and Cleveland. Somehow incorrect crime rates were reported to the FBI and then used in the analysis. There were 51 murders in 2021, not 111. There were 168 rape cases, not 584, 205 robberies, not 516 and just under 1,500 assaults, not nearly 5,000. Looneytunez188 (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong statistics used for Mobile AL PLEASE HELP! 

message: the chart no longer responds to resorting by any particular column heading. 47.153.162.64 (talk) 20:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  the chart no longer responds to resorting by any particular column heading.   

message: Garden City Kansas is listed as having a population of 391,084 people when in reality it has only 28,151 (as per the 2020 census, anyway). Looking at the other statistics for this city, I think the wrong place is listed. Johnkhc (talk) 22:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garden City, Kansas error