Talk:Trafford Centre

message: The fourth citatibon is a broken link and therefore unverified  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roborrye (talk • contribs) 09:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref 4

message: The Trafford Centre has never been the biggest in the UK!  When it openned it was 1.2m sq ft (Actually just slightly bigger than Manchester Arndale at the time, IIRC just under 1.2m sqft).  At the same time the Metrocentre had 1.5m sq ft or retail space.
When Bluewater opened it took the crown of the largest UK shopping centre, weighing in at 1.6m sq ft.  In 2004 the Metrocentre reclaimed its crown with an extension taking it to 1.8m sq ft.
The proposed extension mentioned will take it to 1.4m sq ft, which will still leave it some way behind the Metrocentre, and Bluewater.  AFAICT it will be of a similar size to Meadowhall and the extended Manchester Arndale (both 1.4m sq ft) or Lakeside (1.3m sq ft).
81.158.240.6 13:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would check your facts, that would make it twice the size of, the South China Mall - at 600,000 sq m generally regarded as the largest on the planet.  In reality the Trafford Centre is infact about 7th in the UK behind Metrocentre, Bluewater, Westfield Merry Hill, Lakeside, Manchester Arndale, and Meadowhall.  I dont need measurements to tell me that - I can see the Metrocentre is considerably bigger just from walking around. Pit-yacker (talk) 22:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trafford Centre Compared to other Centres 

message: The Trafford Centre's own info doc says that it has 6 anchors .
Bhs - approximately 5,659sq.m
Boots - approximately 5,102sq.m
Debenhams - approximately 12,152sq.m
John Lewis Partner(opens May 2005) - Approximately 20,438sq.m
Selfridges - approximately 19,481sq.m
Marks & Spencer - approximately 4,274sq.m
Pit-yacker 17:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Anchors 

message: I can confirm it is Regent Crescent not Regents as I have just visited the centre today Penrithguy 22:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Regent or Regents

message: This needs a citation.  It could also do with re-wording as it isn't exactly clear what it means - I'm assuming that the branch of M&S in the Trafford Centre is bigger than the branch of M&S in Bluewater.  If so, so what? What is notable about this? Or is a blow by blow account of relative sizes of different branches of different stores called for? For example I'm willing to bet the Manchester Arndale branch of Next is bigger than the Trafford Centre's branch but is this really worth mentioning in an article? Pit-yacker 19:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, this is hardly worthy of note - the largest M&S according to the Wikipedia entry is Oxford Street, London, so I can't understand why someone would want to compare against Bluewater, which in itself isn't a store famed for its size.Squadgy 20:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  M&S, Trafford Centre bigger than Bluewater? 

message: The centre has 16 car parks - Regent 1 & 2 (lower and upper levels respectively, of the deck car park adjacent to the bus station), Regent 3 (an overflow to the rear of R1&2), Peel 4 & 5 (lower and upper levels respectively, of the deck car park on the other side of Selfridges), Peel 5a, adjacent to John Lewis and the Peel Deck car parks, Peel 6a & 6b, adjacent to John Lewis, Peel 7, an overflow car park to the rear of 6a & 6b with access from the M60 via a slip road, used during very busy periods, Peel 8, adjacent to 6a & 6b and the coach park, Peel 9, adjacent to the main Orient car parks and the M&S Food Hall entrance, Orient 10 & 11, directly opposite the Great Hall and entrances directly to the Orient, Orient 12, adjacent to Frankie & Benny's, also close to the Nandos side entrance to the Orient, Regent 13, close to the Trafford Centre staff entrance and Peel Holding's offices, and finally Regent 14, adjacent to the revolving doors entrance to Debenhams and the petrol station and bus station. Claims of 10,000 parking spaces are somewhat suspect due in part to the construction of The Great Hall, which required removal of some spaces, and the extension to the new Barton Square site, which is being linked via an over-road bridge, taking space in the Peel 4 & 5 car parks. There are also areas of Orient 11 sectioned off at present. I wouldn't like to be the one to count them all, but I wouldn't take that claim at face value, despite what the official literature might say.
            R3                                                   
      BUS  R1&2    /-SELF-\   P4&5    P5a                  
     |----|--------        ----------|----| P6a                    | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
 R14 |DEBS|  REG              PEEL   |JOHN|           P7           |M60 MOTORWAY|
     |----|-----| |--------| |-------|----| P6b                    | vvvvvvvvvv |
               |              |                            
               |              |        CP   P8            
      R13      |    ORIENT    |   P9                       
               |              |                            
               \--------------/                                                      
      O12       O11        O10                             
                                                                                                                                                                                        -----------------------------------------------------------
 R:- Regent                                                
 P:- Peel                                                  
 O:- Orient                                                
 CP:- Coach Park                                           
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This is a very simple diagram of how the centre looks, its actually not straight all the way along and definitely not to scale, but it will suffice. Does anyone know actually how many spaces there are?
90.201.14.61 13:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parking - are there really 10,000 spaces? 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I was saddened to have to place the  tag on this article, but enough is enough. It has become an advertising vehicle, even including instructions on how to avoid traffic jams getting into the centre.
What had been a decent article has now been seriously compromised. A sad day. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 08:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saddened to have to do it 

message: The trafford centre has currently 137,347m2 which is correct. But not anymore! It had now opened a 20,000m2  new exension called barton sqaure!
http://www.traffordcentre.com/media/InfoLearning/traffinfo.pdf
http://www.traffordcentre.co.uk/inspiredinteriors/bartonsquare
http://www.aidan.co.uk/photo9433.htm
That means the total new size is 157,347m2 which makes it the 2nd biggest in england! Is it o.k to change?—Preceding unsigned comment added by TOOEDDD (talk • contribs) 
:As far as I can tell it has already been incrememnted for Barton Square, from 118,766 m² to 137347 m² Pit-yacker (talk) 14:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I already increased the size after visiting Barton Square. ┌Joshii┐└chat┘ 14:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Capital Shopping Centres, the new owners of The Trafford Centre, list the size as 1,900,000 square feet which a quick calculation gives me a figure of 176,515.776 m2 http://www.capital-shopping-centres.co.uk/about/portfolio/ Flibblesan (talk) 11:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size 

message: Over the next couple of weeks I am intending to revamp this page and have already started doing so. Some of the extracts on this page were out of date and I have started to remove or update them. Also if anyone finds more references/sources then that would be much appreciated, the page could do with some more to be honest. Stevo1000 (talk) 13:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the article 

message: I don't know why it was renamed:
1. No-one calls it the "Intu Trafford Centre" or simply "The Intu". See WP:COMMONNAME
2. Wikipedia is not an open advertising site for companies or brands.
3. Page names should be kept as simple as possible. "Trafford Centre" was sufficient enough. See WP:PRECISION
4. If the page is renamed "Intu Trafford Centre" then surely the sentences with "The Trafford Centre..." will have to be rewritten with "The Intu Trafford Centre..." - an unnecessary extra word.
I think I have made my points clear. Stevo1000 (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with nearly all the above - Trafford Centre is the common name and the right title for this article. However this is a breach of WP:NOTCENSORED and the finer details of WP:COMMONNAME. For better or worse (and I happen to think worse) the Trafford Centre is officially (and verifiably - ) known as the intu Trafford Centre, and that deserves a mention in the lead, and probably the infobox too. --Jza84 |  Talk   10:45, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Five minutes at the MEN's website here suggests that they use Trafford Centre, so per policy at Wikipedia:Article titles (it's the section WP:COMMONNAME) and the essay Wikipedia:Official names it should stay where it is.  Mr Stephen (talk) 11:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Everybody uses Trafford Centre. I had a scan around when the terror exercise made the news recently, and all the papers had that.  As of just now, the front page of a Google search for trafford centre terror alert 2016 gives hits at The Metro, the BBC, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Independent, The Daily Mirror, and The Daily Mail.  No sign of the extra word. Mr Stephen (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the Trafford Centre page should never have been renamed