Talk:Doping in sport

message: I was reading the article when I came across this strange quote, allegedly from 1964 (emphasis added):
:I cannot remember how they first came to be offered to us. But they were distributed in the dressing rooms. We didn't have to take them but most of the players did. The tablets were mostly white but once or twice they were yellow. They were used through the 1961–62 season and the championship season which followed it. Drug-taking had previously been virtually unnamed in the club. But once it had started we could have as many tablets as we liked. On match days they were handed out to most players as a matter of course. Soon some of the players could not do without the drugs. Now in Professional sports only 34% of the Athletes use Performance enhancing drugs. (Gabbert, Michael: How we uncovered the Everton drug scandal, The People, UK, 13 September 1964)
I found it strange that someone had used language like the highlighted sentence already in 1964. I have no access to the original article, but I used WP:WikiBlame to discover who added this. Turns out, the original quote – added in Dec 2007 – was amended by  in April 2008. The IP user's other contributions seem strange, including this one where he changed the first question from the 1972 Olympics survey. It turns out, this latter change seems to contradict this source, which I take to mean the user was only experimenting with editing. I have thus reverted these almost four-year-old changes to the article. --hydrox (talk) 23:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced, dubious changes from 2008 

message: In addition to pressures from coaches and athletic programs, individuals are often times influenced by the media and popular culture. I think it would be wise to note the effect of the media on amateur athletes. Many individuals may believe these drugs are permissible based on the fact that professional athletes use them. MozHoag28 (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence of popular culture

message: Just letting everyone know that I will be adding a section to this article under the NFL section. This section will include some statistics on NFL steroid use, recent cases, and the NFL performance-enhancing drug policy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MozHoag28 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: I have a dispute with respect to potential technology doping in
Controversies at the 2012 Summer Olympics: Technologies used for Olympic sports  I'm not sure if anyone can help, or if this is the correct place to ask.  The section starts:
You may wish to include a section on Technology doping on this board as well.--Andromedean (talk) 17:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technology Doping 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Moved to Doping in sport Mike Cline (talk) 17:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
It's 'sportS", not "sport". More than one sport has evidence of doping in it, there are multiple sports. If you'd like to continue to be pedantic, you may select "sporting". Otherwise, it shall be "sportS". As in: "This man is quite good at sports." which is similar to "This man is quite good at athletics." One does not say "This man is quite good at athlete." Otherwise it's a nice page, just clean-up the pedantic, upper-class British English violations! Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2610:130:103:E00:307E:C788:FDCA:4210 (talk) 17:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Would you like vinegar on those chips?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.231.4 (talk) 09:30, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Several of the categories are dead links.--Froglich (talk) 07:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories are a mess 

message: I have reverted to an earlier edition of this article after some pro-doping vandalism on the page. 116.247.88.119 (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Hi User:VivamusAmemus,
Great edits overall. One section that I am interested in seeing improved is testing methods. I think improving this section would drastically increase the readership of this article.
Cheers,
Salubrious Toxin (talk) 00:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review Wikiproject:Medicine 

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message: -> Talk:Cycle_sport#No-Needle-Policy --Itu (talk) 01:01, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: Aside from not being cited, this questionnaire adds nothing to the value of the article. What is notable about how athletes responded to these questions in 1984? I would consider outright removing mention of it, including the table of responses.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.167.187.72 (talk) 14:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anabolic Steroids -- Jay Silvester's 1984 Questionnaire 

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message: How can the Wikipedia article covering steroid abuse leave out body dysmorphia, toxic masculinity, etc? Talking about the social pressures that encourage steroid abuse is crucial to ending it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnunciationOfTruth (talk • contribs) 07:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it should also be mentioned that many women tend to be especially kind to strong and successful athletes – should this be conversely labeled as “toxic feminity” ? When you take a good look at it, deep down, most endeavours of men are primarily aimed at pleasing women, so perhaps if women on average changed their preferences, men on average would be less inclined to engage in risky activities to prove their masculinity, which is still a largely desired trait among women, perhaps even more so than 50 years ago... That's completely off-topic of course (the article is already convoluted enough as it is, and there are already specific articles about body dysmorphia, which is a whole other topic), but you're coming off as someone who has a lot of certainty on that kind of subject, a quite narrow and binary perception of the root causes of all the evils in this world. The “Truth” is never that simple.--Abolibibelot (talk) 12:25, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Doping in sport's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "NYT160813":
From Olympic Games: 
From Doping in Russia: 
Reference named "Hunt2007":
From Doping in China: 
From Doping at the Olympic Games: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:08, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Doping in sport]] 

message: "mephendrone", "ephendrome" - I do not think these words mean what the author intended.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itdaniher (talk • contribs) 17:39, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed the spellings and added links to the relevant Wikipedia articles.  Thank you for noticing the errors and pointing them out here.  Deli nk (talk) 18:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible misspellings of stimulants 

message: More recently, a participant in an endurance walking race in Britain, Abraham Wood, said in 1807 that he had used laudanum (which contains opiates) to keep him awake for 24 hours while competing against Robert Barclay Allardyce.
That is not right! Abraham Wood quited race due to stomach spasm. Multiple sources show Laudanum been given to him after 22 miles in the race by his friends who secretly betted against him. Although, that hasn't been proved and bets were paid. 
This is a good early example of rigging sports events, but not performance-enhancing drugs history.
Those are my sources:
Page 55-56
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OYfeCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=barclay+vs+wood+pedestrians&source=bl&ots=mPvO2H57Ht&sig=ACfU3U0w76wxo-Dst_nJ88IkpeMImz6kaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjb_4fb0eboAhWEUBUIHfMoBWAQ6AEwAXoECAsQLw#v=snippet&q=laudanum&f=false 
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-SVhAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=abraham+wood+1807&source=bl&ots=Lr1KGqVbW6&sig=ACfU3U282Q0CNYng46pvO78xRgLxZ2L_Yg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp74Kax-boAhUKTBUIHeduBa0Q6AEwA3oECAsQKQ#v=onepage&q=laudanum&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.174.237.108 (talk) 00:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact error 

message: I removed the following section, because it is pretty bad, for multiple reasons:
*It is one long paragraph followed by Wikipedia:Citation overkill, so it is very hard to connect each claim to each reference for verification.
*It just mentions "steroids" without further specification, which is pretty much worthless, because it may refer to for example corticosteroids, mineralocorticoids, estrogen and progesterone, which have much different effects than testosterone and the likes.
*There is already a section on anabolic steroids basically next to it.
Mikael Häggström (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unspecific steroid section 

message: Perhaps someone can help address the issues raised here 2603:7000:2143:8500:B8EA:D7F1:9659:CA9C (talk) 22:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help? 

message: For the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:38, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Enhanced Games]] 

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thread_title:  Life orientation 

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