Talk:Scieno Sitter

message: From Politiken (Denmark), 19.2.1999: "Members have their own choice if they want it or not, but we give it to them to protect them, not for controlling them", says Anette Refstrup. "We want to protect them against manipulated thoughts when they are at such a spiritual level that they can't deal with critisism". --Tilman 16:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anette Refstrup 

message: Smee, this is a good article and you are certainly a competent researcher and writer. Please do not let your POV cause you to fight with me over minor POV flaws that I may see in it. I am sensitive to subtle shading and nuancing that you might not see. Just as you might see such in my edits that I do not perceive. That is OK. If I address something that you do not agree with please practice 1RR and bring it here rather than edit war. For my part I will move toward compromise if you will do the same and I think that we have just seen that occur. The one thing that is not open to compromise is including non-RS highly POV material. You do not "compromise" by "balancing" it or only including half of it. While the article proper does not contain such, there is the improper use of "convenience links" that I will be addressing. But not in this post. This is a conciliatory friendly post and I do not want to argue here. --Justanother 17:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article lacks just one thing, which is a description of the actual software. Did anyone here actually ever see it? Misou 21:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article 

message: This is a decent article and I would like it to stay that way. You do not need to include non-RS POV sites and dubious "convenience links" to make a good article that says everything that you want to say. This is proof of that. The references are the references. You need only cite them. I will AGF that you went to the library and actually pulled up the source material and did not rely on some illegal copy on a highly POV website. Smile. But the point is that we do not have to tell the reader that if we took that shortcut. Laff. Please see WP:CONVENIENCE, an essay that will help make my point. Thanks. --Justanother 22:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Settled, you two? Ok, so I'd like to get my question answered: Did anyone here actually ever see the actual software? Misou 04:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is irrelevant, for it would be WP:OR.  Smee 04:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess you are right. Knowing the actual software could impede writing a WP-conform article about it, but at least the screenshot would be real. Misou 05:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.  Smee 05:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convenience links 

message: If I recall correctly, this actually *was* a modified custom version of Cybersitter from the same software vendor, wasn't it?
Lippard 22:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The software in question was indeed Cybersitter, and the developer of the package  got quite a bit of flack for helping the scientology leaders impose this censorware on their followers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.170.224.208 (talk • contribs).
*Do you have more sources for the information you added?  Smee 13:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cybersitter "analogy" 

message: If "Clam Nanny" is a derogatory term or if the Church of Scientology International actually christened their (alleged) software in a way which ridicules it  and its users. Wow, never heard that Scn call themselves "Clams" or "Scienos". That comes from the sick brains of self-appointed critics, normally. Is water wet? Misou (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Scieno Sitter" and "Clam Nanny" are plays on "Cybersitter" and "NetNanny," respectively.  Both "Scieno" and "clam" are indeed derogatory terms applied by critics.  The latter derives from L. Ron Hubbard's claim in his book History of Man that human beings are descended from clams and have engrams from that evolutionary history.  Hubbard claimed he could trigger jaw pain in preclears being audited by having the preclear imagine a clam, and opening and closing his thumb and forefinger like a clam shell.  See the "Clam FAQ": http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html Lippard (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Is "Clam Nanny" derogatory?

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replies: text:  The modified link is suitable, yes. Damotclese (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Substituted at 05:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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