Talk:Amusement Today

message: *Merge Golden Ticket Awards to Amusement Today. As far as I can tell from the article, the award doesn't have much notoriety beyond the readership and possibly the amusement park industry. This isn't like the Oscars or even the AVN Awards that gets a lot of outside media coverage - it'll do perfectly fine as a section in this article. --98.204.112.111 (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: If anybody can post the awards prior to 2008 that would be great. I'm having trouble finding the lists prior to 2008, Astros4477 (talk) 18:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past winners 

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thread_title:  File:Golden Ticket Awards.jpg listed for discussion 

message: *Splitting out the Golden Ticket Awards would be a cleaner solution than splitting by an arbitrary date. Maproom (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Appreciate the feedback, . That would certainly be a good first step in the right direction, but then the Golden Ticket Awards article would be faced with the same dilemma of long, collapsed lists for each year. But I'd take that over keeping everything in the Amusement Today article! Wondering if we can treat it like the film project does with awards, or even something like they do with 2020 in film. I would say at the very least, split it out by decade (if not by year) if we go that route. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:40, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't had time to attack it yet, but yes the GTAs are referenced in many highly-reputable sources within the amusement park industry. The most reputable parks, manufacturers, and vendors also frequently send representatives to attend the yearly awards ceremony. It's essentially like the Academy Awards for that industry. With some cleanup and source hunting, I have little doubt that this article (and a corresponding GTA article) would both easily pass WP:N. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:40, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick Google search shows lots of secondary sources for the awards. Most parks that have received an award issue a press release and the local news stations and papers pick it up.—JlACEer (talk) 20:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

text: Which one? By ticket or by date?—JlACEer (talk) 20:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the original split proposed by Zsteve21, so the split by date. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 21:33, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

text: There's no need to rush to split the article. WP:HASTE states, quoting: "As browsers have improved, there is no need for haste in splitting an article when it starts getting large. Sometimes an article simply needs to be big to give the subject adequate coverage. If uncertain, or with high profile articles, start a discussion on the talkpage regarding the overall topic structure. Determine whether the topic should be treated as several shorter articles and, if so, how best to organize them.  If the discussion makes no progress consider adding one of the split tags in order to get feedback from other editors." Ergzay (talk) 03:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:HASTE isn't relevant here for a couple reasons. First, this isn't really a size issue. We are dealing with a content issue. Per MOS:LIST, articles should consist primarily of prose. When an article consists primarily of lists, it should either be converted to a  or split/forked into two separate entities: a prose article and a list article. It's already predominantly a list, hence the request to take action, and that's only going to get worse with each passing year as more lists are added.Second, WP:HASTE is about splitting without discussion and avoiding a rush to judgment based on size alone. Neither point applies. Clearly we're in the midst of a discussion. --GoneIn60 (talk) 07:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary break

message: I am going to transfer the Golden Ticket Awards section into two articles as stated in the split proposal. However, I am going to keep an 'uncollapsed' copy of the latest year of Golden Ticket Awards (2021) and 'uncollapse' the Publisher's Picks section. On 7th November 2021, if I get a consensus or get no responses, I will take action. zsteve21 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you repeat exactly what you are going to name each new article? My understanding is that we will still have the Amusement Today article, as well as one called "List of Golden Ticket Awards". In the new list, it sounds like you will keep the latest year uncollapsed in each category and collapse the rest of the previous years.Personally, I think that new list would still have the problem of containing too much in one list article, but it's a step in the right direction. Eventually, these will need to be broken out by decade or year, and by year might make the most sense with the number of awards given out each year. Plus, the lead section would be able to focus on a brief description of where the awards were held that year along with anything unique about that given season. But additional lists by year can be a discussion that continues until we've agreed on how to do that. Right now, there appears to be support for at least 2 articles. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

text: Disclosure: I've blocked this user for 48 hours following numerous warnings about improper page splits/mergers, which the user appears to continue to ignore. -- ferret (talk) 20:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to name the new articles 'List of Golden Ticket Awards before 2010' and 'List of Golden Ticket Awards after 2010'. Also, I doubt that it's necessary or needed for someone to disclose that I have been blocked on this talk page. zsteve21 (talk) 09:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not what what the consensus was leaning towards in the above discussion. An Amusement Today article should remain for reasons already mentioned. New list articles can be created for the Golden Ticket Awards, but a prose article for the publisher needs to be retained. Also, you seem to be ignoring the problem that still remains by splitting by decade. Each one of those new list articles you're proposing will have the same issue with length and collapsed charts. It would be an improvement, but in actuality, we'd be kicking the can down the road. And while "Before 2010" could work, "After 2010" will only work in the short term, because eventually it's going to outpace the Before 2010 list. --GoneIn60 (talk) 06:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Attempt to split article 

message: Could someone please add the full top 50 list for 2022? 47.203.79.242 (talk) 18:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top 50