Talk:Sybil Ludington

message: This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  16:38, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright problem 

message: This will be a B class article when these issues are addressed. BTW: There are very few military history articles about women, and I'm pleased to see this one. Djmaschek (talk) 00:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: B class review

message: In edits of 11 July,  is stating that Ludington's birthplace is Branford.  They say it can be cited to Dacquino; a page number is needed.  Higher quality sources (Hunt) say Fredericksburg.  I can add a footnote saying that sources disagree if IP 162 stops edit warring long enough to allow cleanup.  IP162, edits must be sourced.  Books require page nos.  If we you want to contradict higher quality sources used here, please provide quotes and page nos from the books you want to use.  Other sources indicate Dacquino is not entirely neutral on the topic, and Purple Mountain Press is not high quality. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  23:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: IP162, please review this source and this one and consider that Dacquino might be wrong.  Her father was born in Branford; I have found no high quality source that makes the claim that Sybil was, and Purple Mountain Press is not a widely known publisher. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  00:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Also, since high quality sources do not mention that Ogden served with John Paul Jones, we don't need to either (see WP:DUE); this is not his biography. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  00:21, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Done, in this version of 13 July. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  01:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edit warring 

message: In this version, I propose to fix the following:
# "At the age of 23, in 1784 Ludington married Edmond Ogden. They had a son named Henry in 1786."  This should not be cited to a source of marginal reliability for this claim (a town's website), when it can be cited to a peer-reviewed, scholarly publication. (Hunt 2015, p. 189.)
# "Edmond was a farmer, innkeeper, and had served with John Paul Jones." None of this is mentioned in any high-quality source I am aware of.  Because scholarly sources indicate that much of this story involves "family folklore" and "fiction", we should not be repeating undue information unnecessarily; this is not Ogden's bio, and we don't need to include this information at all.  Hunt does cite military sources on Ogden, and if someone can access those sources, it may be possible to add more information about Ogden, but we need not do this based on books of marginal reliability published by relatively little known presses.
# Replace modern accounts source list with those mentioned in scholarly sources, to avoid random list of books.
SandyGeorgia (Talk)  15:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, in this version of 13 July. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  01:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing 

message: I would like to state that, the location of birth should be disputed. We can not stand with only one source on this B class article. I personally also agree with ip 162 on the topic of birth location. The reason I think stating Edmond Ogden served with John Paul Jones is important because Sybil later in her life tried to get edmond’s pension. 63.143.104.2 (talk) 19:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth location