Talk:The J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia

message: I'm not sure if our naming conventions apply, since this is a title, and it is typeset "J.R.R. Tolkien", not "J. R. R. Tolkien" by the publisher. dab (𒁳) 19:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: That entire history section needs a credible citation. - PKM 02:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see some of that is in Drout's blog . Will so note. - PKM 02:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below, without speaking to the merits of the case on either side. This topic should probably be followed up in a wider venue - MOS pages or naming conventions pages - to make the guidelines more clear about what to do in cases such as these. Top-down processes are more effective than bottom-up processes in achieving standardization. Dekimasuよ! 16:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is the title of a book -- does the MOS really authorize taking liberties with the titles of books? older ≠ wiser 00:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
right. since there is no consensus, and I created this article, I will move it back to where I originally created it at, and from where it was moved without discussion. Clearly, the correct approach is discuss first and move later. I do not do this because J.R.R. is superior, but because I am annoyed that Koavf should have moved the article without discussion, and later made a lot of noise about "no discussion" when he was reverted. If anyone wants to pursue this, try Wikipedia:Consensus. dab (𒁳) 17:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: If you want to get really picking about the typography, you might need a reliable source that says that it is indeed "no spaces" after the first two dots. Maybe it is actually a "thin space"? See here. We even have an article that mentions this: Space (punctuation). I'm pretty sure we are not dealing with the Mongolian Vowel Separator ("A thin space character used in Mongolian to cause the final two characters of a word to take on different shapes"), but this might be a Thin Space ("One fifth (sometimes one sixth) of an em wide"), or even a Hair Space ("Thinner than a thin space"). I don't think we want to get into Punctuation Space, Zero Width Space, Zero Width Non Joiner, Zero Width Joiner, and Narrow No-Break Space... My main point about "does it matter", it that it is likely that some well-meaning editor will try and request a move back to the "spaces" version at some point in the future. That was less likely to happen the other way around, in my opinion. Carcharoth 15:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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