Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2003

message: I've just removed some info saying that Serbia and Montenegro withdrew their entry (Cija si by Toše Proeski, sung in Serbian). If anyone can provide a source, please feel free to put that info back in, with a link to that source. Thank you! :-) - Lewis R « т · c » 19:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Serbia and Montenegro?

message: So, would the Irish televotes give or not the Russians the victory? Zé da Silva 07:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a link to the Irish televote results and cleaned the section up a bit, so the section now answers your question. - Lewis R « т · c » 18:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article still contradicts itself. The third paragraph of the intro (which by the way is too long) claims that "it was later revealed that the televote results would have given Russia full points, which would have given them the win" while the "Voting structure" section says that "if the Irish televote results had been included, Turkey would still have won, and Russia would not have got any more points (though would have come second)". Alarm 16:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: I removed the paragraph claiming Russia and Romania's voting was corrupt. No credible source for such an accusation was given and certainly no EBU investigation was ever instigated over this. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of voting allegation 

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message: Right, I've completely rewritten the article with a view to possibly making it a good article. I thought I should explain some of the major changes—some of which go against the norm for ESC articles, I know—so...
*I've removed the flags from the infobox per Wikipedia:FLAG#Help_the_reader_rather_than_decorate. There's no other reason, the flags were simply unnecessary.
*I've removed the list of spokespeople. I just don't see how a list of people who are mostly non-entities (even in their own countries, in some cases) adds to the encyclopedic content of an article. I'm willing to fork the list into its own article, if anyone thinks it's a big problem. The most notable spokespeople are mentioned in the text.
*I removed a lot of quite random detail, like the bit about the order of tracks on the CD; I mean honestly, why? The 2004 info should have been in the 2004 article, too.
*There are a lot of esctoday.com references, mainly because they were the only site reporting in depth back in late 2002.
*I've moved the map so that it's embedded into the text. It's perfectly clear here and takes up less space, in my opinion. 
I think that's it, if there's anything I've left out complain here. Chwech 17:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An additional point: I haven't bolded the 2004 finalists because they're listed in the "Implications" section. I've moved that section because it was likely to be missed at the bottom of the article. Chwech 20:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: Can someone tell me if she sang in all three languages, because I've seen in places that she sung in just Croatian and English. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 21:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bosnia and herzegovina

message: I was just thinking. Russia, at the time of the contest, claimed that had Ireland not been forced to resort to a back-up jury (their televote failed that year) then they would have won. If we think along the same lines, I guess it's quite unlucky that it happened, as Ireland may have given UK some points if it was down to the televote and UK wouldn't have ended up with nul points.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisethebest (talk • contribs) 16:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if Ireland had used televoting, the United Kingdom would still have finished with nil points: if you read this page (also included as a citation in the main article), it shows that Ireland wouldn't have given anything to Jemini. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) (talk) 16:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: United Kingdom's nul points

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