Talk:Quintin Hogg, Baron Hailsham of St Marylebone

message: Hogg remarried in 1988 to Deirdre Margaret Shannon----  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pannetone (talk • contribs) 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: Nasty Tory, hated workers more than his country, result: destroyed the railways
A true Englishman would kill an Etonian88.144.40.188 (talk) 01:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: He published a short book called "Values: Collapse and Cure" in 1994 in a facsimile of his own handwriting. As I recall he took particular exception to the modern expression "have sex", which he regarded as gramatically sloppy (it means literally "to be either male or female").Paulturtle (talk) 02:54, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etonian who help destroy England 

message: Hogg participated in his first election campaign in the 1924 general election...
:He would have been 17 at the time. It cannot have been a very significant participation. Valetude (talk) 18:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily. I haven't looked it up, but as an Eton sixth former with public speaking experience he may well have made a few speeches. Quite a few politicians of that era cut their teeth when they were of student age (OTOH John Simon, FE Smith, Randolph Churchill).Paulturtle (talk) 16:25, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electioneering at 17? 

message: What was the meaning of this slogan at the 1938 Oxford by-election? Valetude (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: His opponent was the anti-appeasement candidate, Lindsay (?sp).Paulturtle (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hitler Wants Hogg"? 

message: *  - very nice.
KJP1 (talk) 22:52, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future use 

message: I lack the skill even after all this time to move footnotes properly. So for the record, someone please consider the following.
In the "Background" section, it currently reads as of 20240213 as follows:
"Born in Bayswater, London, Hogg was the son of Douglas Hogg, 1st Viscount Hailsham, who was Lord Chancellor under Stanley Baldwin, and grandson of Quintin Hogg, a merchant, philanthropist and educational reformer, and an American mother.
Hogg was educated at Sunningdale School and then Eton College, where he was a King's Scholar and won the Newcastle Scholarship in 1925. He entered Christ Church, Oxford as a Scholar and he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association and of the Oxford Union. He took Firsts in Honours Moderations in 1928 and in Literae Humaniores in 1930. He was elected to a Prize Fellowship in Law at All Souls College, Oxford, in 1931. He was called to the bar by Lincoln's Inn in 1932.
The middle name McGarel comes from Charles McGarel, who had large holdings of slaves, and who financially sponsored Quintin Hogg's grandfather, also called Quintin Hogg, who was McGarel's brother-in-law.
Hogg spoke in opposition to the motion "That this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country" in the 1933 King and Country debate at the Oxford Union.""
I submit that the third paragraph about McGarel logically belongs either within the existing first para, right after "American mother" or, still immediately after that but as the new second paragrap. The sequence would then be:
"Born in Bayswater, London, Hogg was the son of Douglas Hogg, 1st Viscount Hailsham, who was Lord Chancellor under Stanley Baldwin, and grandson of Quintin Hogg, a merchant, philanthropist and educational reformer, and an American mother. The middle name McGarel comes from Charles McGarel, who had large holdings of slaves, and who financially sponsored Quintin Hogg's grandfather, also called Quintin Hogg, who was McGarel's brother-in-law.
Hogg was educated at Sunningdale School and then Eton College, where he was a King's Scholar and won the Newcastle Scholarship in 1925. He entered Christ Church, Oxford as a Scholar and he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association and of the Oxford Union. He took Firsts in Honours Moderations in 1928 and in Literae Humaniores in 1930. He was elected to a Prize Fellowship in Law at All Souls College, Oxford, in 1931. He was called to the bar by Lincoln's Inn in 1932.
Hogg spoke in opposition to the motion "That this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country" in the 1933 King and Country debate at the Oxford Union.""
That way we would have paragraph 1 (family background- I'm sure there's more of value it could say but at least in would all be together), paragraph 2 (education to the point of professional practice), then paragraph 3 (amusing and indicative anecdote from the previously described educational stage of his life). Random noter (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind- I looked more closely and realized it would not imperil the footnote sequence and I have managed to make the adjustment without messing them up. Random noter (talk) 23:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logical Sequencing