Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Stargate task force/Archive 1

message: I see wikipedia defines some sections in Wikiproject as default. However, not all projects keep them. Which ones do you think are not usuful for us? For one, I'd delete the "Related Regional notice boards" one. Ideas? -- Andromeda 00:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections to delete

message: Yes, I agree about deleting sections.  When I saw 30+ sections I was really taken aback.  What's the difference between similar and related wikiprojects?  Goasl v. projects v. tasks?  Also perhaps get rid of everything below "New Wikipedia articles related to Stargate".
I agree that Character templates are a good idea.  I would argue that we should also create a template for individual episodes.  I went through all the season one Atlantis episodes yesterday to try to standardise them.  Some didn't have an introductory sentence.  Some lacked spoiler warnings, etc.  We should do the same for SG-1 episodes.  I'd be willing to work on this if you like.  I'm also involved with Wikipedia: WikiProject Television.
Acegikmo1 00:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean a style sheet for the episodes? It would be a good idea. Or do you mean something to replace the Infobox Television episode in use now? --  Andromeda 02:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean a style sheet for episodes.  I really like the Infobox.  Acegikmo1 02:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, it was just to clarify. I think is a good idea. Do you have a proposal? -- Andromeda 02:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created a episode style sheet subpage.  Please let me know what you think and make any changes you think are necessary.  Acegikmo1 18:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode stylesheet (was: Focus) 

message: I believe we need to create an article on the storyline of Stargate SG-1. I realize we already have something similar with the Stargate SG-1 episode guide, but it is incomplete. I believe it would be much easier to break it down season by season and give a general overview of the storyline. The plot of a show is one of the most important parts, and not enough of the shows have information on the storyline and plot progression. I believe that the info for SG-1 is already much more complete than just about any other show, and this addition would make it only more complete. bob rulz 01:53, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
: I think it's a good idea. Sometimes is very tedious to go through an episode guide to know what happened. It could also serve as introduction to new viewers. -- Andromeda 02:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be put under a 'Plot synopsis' section on the main Stargate SG-1 page, and then the Episode guide can be entirely seperate. --alfakim 16:02, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Storyline

message: Sections in this type of article will probably be like:
Creator(s), Antecedent(s) (like X-302 / F-302), Owner(s), First Appearance, Appearance(s), Use(s), Extra Info (like what it's powered by, or what it goes together with). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Devices and Technology

message: Sections in this type of article will probably be like:
Description, Tendencies, Alliances and Enemies, Subdivisions, First Appearance, Technology (how advanced they are), Relation (ie Jaffa are Gao'uld related, Aschen are Human-related). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by Tendencies? I would add also a Story section, if aplicable. For example, with the Asgard, their story in the series (Cimmeria, the replicators, etc). I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well... -- Andromeda 08:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tendencies: Jaffa tend to be fighters. Goa'uld tend to be egoistic. You're right though, all of that goes into Description. And yes, a Story bit would be useful too. When this is all agreed on we might head off... --alfakim 19:42, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, what about this: Description, Story, Organization/Structure, Alliances and Enemies, Technology & Episodes (First appearance and other notable episodes they're appeared in). Opinions? -- Andromeda 05:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Races

message: I was wondering whether there should be a section of this project for major Planets as well, like Kelowna, Earth (obviously), Abydos, the fire-covered Ancients Planet... These pages would probably just have information on the population or technology, or politics (like on Kelowna), or what was found there (like the Ancients Planet). --alfakim 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not a bad idea, but I think there could be an overlapping between the races and planets sections. A page on Earth it's also a page on the Tau'ri. However, in other cases like Kelowna, Kelowna may be a race/civilization article while Langaria would be the planet article. We should define in which cases a planet article is necessary and in which cases a race article is better, perhaps with some redirects, I think. -- Andromeda 08:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In general I'd say that we should favour Race articles. Kelowna is a bit of an exclusive one. By planetary articles, my thinking was more of this: the idea of this WikiProject is to create a comprehensive guide to the StarGate Universe: well - that includes all of its fictional planets. Might a page like List of StarGate Planets be of any use? Like: P3X-796 (invented): Icy planet inhabited by weird people. Pic. Possibly a gate address or plotty thing, distance from earth, galaxy its in (not really relevant most of the time). But in general I think sticking to race articles is best. --alfakim 19:39, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think so. The list is good idea. There's one already, but only of "lesser planets" (we can just put a redirect on that one once the good one is finished). I just cleaned un the Stargate SG-1 article by creating Human civilizations in Stargate SG-1 and Alien Races in Stargate pages and a list of planets would help too. The one in the article now is incomplete and messy. -- Andromeda 03:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also an arcticle "List of known Stargates", which is linked to from a single page, making it pretty much useless. -b 00:23, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Great idea. Planet Lists and Stargate Lists all become one nice-looking and easy article. I'm totally for this idea. --alfakim 14:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  List of Stargate planets created. Opinions? -- Andromeda 22:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Planets

message: Stargates situated on the Pegasus Galaxy or address from the Pegasus Galaxy.
Planet  	SGC Designation	Stargate address	Notes
Atlantis	               	                	
Athos   	               	                	
-- Andromeda 12:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Great idea. Planet Lists and Stargate Lists all become one nice-looking and easy article. I'm totally for this idea. --alfakim 14:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  List of Stargate planets created. Opinions? -- Andromeda 22:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pegasus Galaxy Stargates

message: I was wondering what type of format we should use for Episode list. I like Enterprise's episode list. It contains a bunch of great features that would be nice to have for the 3 Stargate Series. It contains a short introduction to the series and a picture of the DVD set.  The table contains a lot of useful information including a screenshot from each episode, the episode title (with a link to its page), it episode number, and its original airdate.  So what do you guys think of having a similar list for the Stargate series?  What type of information should we have in addition to what I have mentioned?  --Mattwj2002 01:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A few days ago, I created Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Episode list style guide.  I would be willing to apply the formula to Stargate episode lists if you approve.  Acegikmo1 01:56, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I read through the format and it sounds prefect.  I would be very pleased if you would apply the formula. --Mattwj2002 02:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode List

message: For example, Daniel Jackson's article basically ends at the beginning of Season 8. I'd like to do it, but simply I don't have the time. LD 01:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP!: Core characters in need of update. 

message: Would one of you fine people be interested in adding a Stargate section to canon (fiction)?  I know that the animated series isn't canon, and bits of the film have been retconned in the TV series, but I don't know anything about how books, comics, etc. are treated within Stargate fandom.  I'd stub the paragraph up myself, but I know very little about Stargate fandom and would probably make some dreadful mistake. :)
Thanks in advance to whoever picks up this challenge! —Josiah Rowe 07:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stargate canon? 

message: I'd like to volunteer to help out on this project.  I run a stargate technology website (its linked in my profile) and have information and analysis to help add.  Alyeska 19:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All you have to do is add your name to the list and check out this article: Technology in the Stargate universe
--Zxcvbnm 22:31, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Stargate Technology

message: Hi, I just did a rework of the article Death glider.  I found the orginal hard to read, messy unorganized, and not wikified.  I think I fixed all the problems with it.  I know I have gotten criticism here lately so I just want to see what you guys think.  Tobyk777 23:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job! There were a few niggling errors, and I figured it might be a good idea to add a few potential wikifications that you probably just overlooked, but I've seen worse. Keep up the good work! Lockesdonkey 21:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

text: It sure looks much better than back when I started the article. 22:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rework of [[Death glider]]

message: I think we need a atandard form for the devices and technology articeles, especially the intro section.
I propose something similar to the following:
:In the fictional Stargate universe, X is a device... <brief description>
:<How it works>
:<What it is used for>
:<history of device, if it exists  (X-302 → X-303)>
This information may not be available in all cases, but we should at leat put in as much as possible.
SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 00:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format of Technology Articles 

message: Hi after I just spent 2 hours linking and organizing pages on stargate I realized that their was a Stargate project.  I just joined, yet in my time organing the database, I saw that all the Stargate ones are jumbled.  I think Every charcter page needs the charcter template, every tech page the tech template, etc.  Also the templates themselves are not complete.  I spent hours working on these problems today, but it's more than one person can do.  
What I did that was good but people need to do a lot more of:
*All races pages have the races template.
*Almost every stargate page has the general Stargate template.  A few more still need it.
*I expanded the chracter and race templates.
*I put the following on all tech and race pages.  This needs to go on every page.
**Stargate Atlantis
**Stargate SG-1
**List of known Stargates
**List of Stargate planets
**Alien races in the Stargate universe 
**Human civilizations in Stargate SG-1
**Human civilizations in Stargate Atlantis
**Technology in the Stargate universe
**List of Stargate SG-1 episodes (provides full chronology of the plot)
**List of Stargate Atlantis episodes (provides full chronology of the plot)
**Stargate - general information on the Stargate universe
***I also put this list on every page in this list. 
**I added more to the Goa'uld catagory.
Our Stargate database is thurough, it just isn't organized.  Every page needs to be catagorized, and every page needs to link to every relevant page, as well as the main lists.  Every page also needs it's apropiate template, and the templates needs to be complete.
I will continue working on these problems, but I need help.  Thanks Tobyk777 03:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Orginization of pages

message: After editing Telchak, I realized that I had edited a very similar article before.  I turns out that Telchak and Telchak (Stargate) Are almost identical.  I am not sure how this duplication was created.  they should be merged and one should be redirected into the other.  I am not sure how to form redirects myself, so I am putting it here, requesting that someone else does.  Tobyk777 02:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I believe that they can fit into one article, they are not very detailed articles since there is not much info on them.--Zxcvbnm 00:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree. Lady Aleena  19:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Flames of Enlightenment is cruft; there is nothing you can say other than that they are flames, and they are the manifestation of the Ori. I merged it, since there seems to be a consensus--Zxcvbnm 00:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles to be merged

message: Since Doci is a stub, and the Doci are stated as being leaders of the Priors in the Ori article; I suggest that the Doci article be merged with the Prior article, then the Doci article should be deleted.
Lady Aleena  23:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Prior (Stargate)#Doci|Doci]] to [[Prior (Stargate)|Prior]]

message: First, THANK YOU CANADIANS for this heads-up. Somehow, I think we should reorganize these articles along the lines of Daedalus class battlecruiser, with general information about the type of ships (very large, high-quality self-destruct, stasis pods with virtual-environment capability, used Drone Weapons, etc.), and then each individual ship's story. The ideal place for this would be as Aurora-class Battleship. Comments? Lockesdonkey 21:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I believe that they can fit into one article, they are not very detailed articles since there is not much info on them.--Zxcvbnm 00:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Aurora (Stargate)]] and [[Orion (Stargate)]]

message: I think that Flames of Enlightenment should be merged into the Ori article, since it is only a stub and the Flames are the Ori themself. Diabound00 13:18, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Lady Aleena  19:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Flames of Enlightenment is cruft; there is nothing you can say other than that they are flames, and they are the manifestation of the Ori. I merged it, since there seems to be a consensus--Zxcvbnm 00:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Prior (Stargate)#Flames of Enlightenment|Flames of Enlightenment]] and [[Ori (Stargate)]]

message: See: Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29/Archive V #How_about:_Sectioning_off_of.2Fpossible_banning_of_Fictional_Universe_articles.  I hope I am not in violation of WP:SPAM by informing talk pages of Fictional Universes about this thread. User:AlMac|(talk) 14:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposition to Fictional Universes here 

message: Rand and Caledonia have a planet name...Tegalas (my spelling may be wrong).
Lady Aleena  01:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. LD 20:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rand and Caledonia have a planet name 

message: Some people without real understanding of the template vote to delete it. As that is our topic I think we should participate in that decision and not let people who do not work on this WP decide. --SoWhy 21:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sgspoiler-Template