Talk:BVS Entertainment

message: There is an inconsistency in the List of Television Shows and Films. Next to MASKED RIDER (1990s), you have the various Japanese counterparts used to make the show. However, Ryuki is listed there, which it should not be. Kamen Rider Dragon Knight (Kamen Raida Ryuki) is in no way linked to Saban's work on Masked Rider. It is a new series being produced by Adness Entertainment.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.38.191 (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistency

message: Saban had nothing to do with Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea - this is a somewhat common mistake (I just corrected it on IMDB), because it was produced in France (as were Mysterious Cities of Gold and Ulysses 31) and Nina Wolmark was an important part of the creative team.
However, it did not involve Saban.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.140.53 (talk) 21:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spartakus 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Weak oppose. Even assuming that the official name has changed (evidence?), it doesn't follow that the article should automatically be renamed. Adoption of the new name in normal English often takes some time, and sometimes never occurs at all. Also, article lead currently reads as though the article is only about the company when it was officially known by its former name; If that's the topic, then the former name should again be retained. Andrewa (talk) 14:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Looks like Saban Records is now Saban Music Group not Saban Entertainment. So i think the Saban Records info should be moved to the Saban Capital Group article. Powergate92Talk 22:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Saban Entertainment started in 1988 and was a separate company from Saban Records Powergate92Talk 23:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saban Records is now Saban Music Group 

message: The link for the Diplodo show on the page points to creating a whole new page but there is already a page on Wikipedia for this show: Diplodos
Since the article is locked I cannot edit it myself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.252.26.3 (talk) 14:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diplodo(s) 

message: Saban Entertainment produces the new Mighty Morphin Power Rangers series?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.20.205 (talk) 18:40, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Saban Entertainment may be defunct with most of their old stuff owned by Disney, but Disney does not own Saban Brands, which is completely owned by Haim Saban himself, which owns the Power Rangers brand. Saban Entertainment and Saban Brands are two completely different companies with little to no relation from each other (except the former Saban Entertainment being owned by the current Saban Brands owner in the past).  124.171.206.147 (talk) 09:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saban Entertainment returns? 

message: I've seen Cookie Jar's website and it doesn't mention Camp Candy in their library section at all and Disney owns that show because it aired alot on Fox Family even though the channel also aired stuff not owned by Saban like various Rankin-Bass specials but Camp Candy is part of Saban's library and not DiC (when Disney owned DiC after they bought Capital Cities/ABC, it did not include Camp Candy, but when Disney bought Saban, they now own it).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.34.84 (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camp Candy 

message: Why were they removed from the library section? Classic Media owns those films, not Disney.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 23:35, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casper: A Spirited Beginning and Casper Meets Wendy 

message: Each incarnation of Power Rangers is considered to be a new season of one show. So Mighty Morphin is three seasons, Zeo is the fourth season, Turbo is the fifth and so on. As a result, in the list of shows Saban make, Power Rangers should be grouped together under the one name, rather than listing each season individually as it does here. the new names are merely season identifiers, not the marking of a new show, as with (for example) Star Trek The Next Generation. 219.90.136.61 (talk) 03:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Rangers 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: To have the article remain as Saban Entertainment. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 22:50, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Saban Entertainment →  – This is the current name of the legal entity. The article falsely displayed that Saban Entertainment was dissolved as a legal entity, however, numerous citations just state that The Walt Disney Company renamed the company to BVS Entertainment. They're still the same legal entity Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 21:05, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Spshu (talk) 02:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: So, but you can not have WP influencing common name. You do give the full legal name in the lead paragraph. Article doesn't complete give the assumption that BVS and Saban are separate companies - read the article as BVS is a subsection of the history section and spells out BVS is Saban's current name. The ibox and lead ¶ do need to be cleaned up (done). Common name is basically the popular name as that is what is commonly used. In your example, the article is not called the legal name, Atlus Co., Ltd., but Atlus. Note that Bill Clinton's legal name is not used per WP:COMMONNAME. The BVS name was and is not out there like the Saban name in being used on productions, had a logo, etc. --Spshu (talk) 16:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, we need to have input from someone else regarding this in order to reach a consensus. I'm in support for the name change and you're against it. The only reason why I mentioned that Saban Entertainment and BVS Entertainment were given the impression to be separate companies is because I had to clean up the article in order to identify that they were not. Before my edit, the article gave tags that Saban Entertainment as a legal entity was dissolved once it was acquired by The Walt Disney Company. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 16:12, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

text: Looks like the majority has decided to stick with Saban Entertainment. I'll end the discussion and maintain the page as is. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 22:28, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 August 2017 

message: I propose that SIP Animation be merged back into Saban Entertainment. 
# I think that the content in the SIP article can easily be explained in the context of Saban Entertainment, and the Saban Entertainment article is of a reasonable size that the merging of SIP will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Part of this, is that it was just Saban's international arm as SIP is from Saban International Paris.
# Per notability, " Wikipedia articles cover notable topics—those that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, " All sources are primary, media or animation news news website, thus not the "world at large". For naysayers about this requirement, I have not hear any other logical test for "world at large".
# Sources are not significant articles 
** Saban is not an independent source being an owner of SIP.
** 4rfv.co.uk accepts reader submitted articles
** Most of the articles are of "Capsule" size, which under film notability Capsule reviews do not count towards notability as they are not significant coverage (WP:NFSOURCES).
** The article general are more about the TV show then SIP and notability is not (WP:INHERITORG) inheritable from its product.  Spshu (talk) 13:49, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The other arguments brought up are quite weak as well – but I am not simply opposing the merger, but this nomination itself. Modernponderer (talk) 14:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I went directly down the article to development my argument, so please strike such baseless attacks. The other arguments are directly from notability requirements thus not weak at all. This is a "WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT" opposition. Spshu (talk) 14:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: And... you've completely missed the point I'm making once again. WP:IDIDNTREADTHAT? By the way, just looking at references doesn't really count as "reading" an article – though it would certainly explain quite a few of your deletion nominations. Modernponderer (talk) 15:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Telling you I read the article along with the sources is what I did. Reading the sources along with the article "doesn't really count as 'reading' an article". Do not tell me what I did or did not do. Spshu (talk) 00:30, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

text:  Being its own company (as generally each country a company operates in they have to set up a new business entity/company there) is not grounds for it having its own article. Spshu (talk) 00:30, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

text: What do you think, User:Spshu? Can we finally close this? Modernponderer (talk) 23:55, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - We had less information at that time. Now we know that SIP has been a 100% owned subsidiary of BVS Entertainment for the last 10 years. It was also apparently never an independent studio. In this case, both Creativite et Developpement and SIP Animation should be combined under this title. 212.252.136.42 (talk) 22:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Sensation Animation? 165.140.214.238 (talk) 15:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal - SIP 

message: Please apply the changes in this diff:  5.104.90.107 (talk) 16:20, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done NiciVampireHeart 16:37, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2019 

message: People keep adding the unsourced claim that Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog was part of the Power Rangers-related package "new Saban" bought back from Disney in 2010, and I keep having to remove it because there's no evidence that's true. All the titles that were part of the deal have a clear chain of trademark transfers showing it, but there were no such transfers for Mystic Knights. Various articles (mostly fansites) claim it was part of the deal, but this appears to just be an assumption on the part of the authors, with no documentation or quotes to back it up. -- Jake (talk) 19:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mystic Knights and the 2010 deal 

message: It seems that all the information about SIP mentioned in that topic is wrong. In 2013, BVS Entertainment takes control of all remaining shares of the SIP before the SIP is liquidated in 2023.Moreover, SIP was never independent according to the French documents we have. Since 1993, companies called IFP and Pueblo have been joint shareholders along with BVS Entertainment (formerly Saban Entertainment) until 2012.
So there is no reason for that title to be separate from the Saban Entertainment's main title. Because BVS has been a shareholder from the very beginning, and in 2013, the control of the all shares was completely transferred to BVS Entertainment. When the company is liquidated in 2023, all company assets are transferred to Delaware US-based company BVS Entertainment. If you want, I will share the documents with you. I think this needs to be fixed. That company was a subsidiary of BVS for 10 years before it officially ceased operations in 2023.Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.26.237.91 (talk) 15:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree with this! Julian.exe (talk) 08:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge this article with SIP Animation

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved.  – robertsky (talk) 03:51, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: BVS Entertainment →  – Essentually, this whole page move thing has been a complete mess. Firstly, it was moved without any voting from other users, and secondly, it uses a logo that was stolen from a DeviantArt user who stated that the logo was custom-made, as seen in this link. Luigitehplumber (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: Since this is the company name for a long time, is there a way to let the template with no logo? The old Saban logo is stuck there even if there's no logo icon name attached to the "logo" section of the template. Daikage (talk) 01:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Same with the "Mattel Playground Productions" logo on the Mattel Films article until a made-up Mattel Films logo was recently inserted there. Intrisit (talk) 20:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Comment: Is there any need to think so much about the logo? The company already stands for Buena Vista Studios, and Disney also added these Buena Vista closing logo prints to some of the shows in the Saban library. So any Buena Vista logo wouldn't look wrong in this page. GRPHX-TREME (talk) 14:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

text: • Oppose: The Saban Entertainment name is no longer in use, Disney changed it into BVS Entertainment in 2002, and since then, this is the legal name of the company that is still active and owned by Disney. Julian.exe (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 19 February 2024 

message: Fox Children's Productions was retired after the Fox Kids-Saban merger. For this reason, even the later seasons of The Tick were produced at Saban's studios and featured the Saban Entertainment watermark on the animation cels. Fox Children's Productions had two successor companies. These are FOX Family Properties Inc. (later renamed ABC Family Properties.) and the offshore company, Aruba-based Fox Kids International Properties A.V.V. (It was later renamed BVS International Properties A.V.V.) Therefore, the successor-predecessor relationship between Fox Children's Productions and Jetix Animation Concepts (JAC for short) exists only in spiritiual. Since Jetix is ​​an ABC Family Worldwide brand, the joint venture relationship here is entirely through Jetix and DisneyTVA. It is not affiliated with Fox Children's Productions. If you claim it is, please CERTIFY THE SOURCE.
User:GRPHX-TREME (talk) 17:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Succession of Jetix Animation Concepts 

message: As Sensation Animation
Digimon Frontier (2002-2003) 165.140.214.238 (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2024