Talk:Iron maiden (disambiguation)

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*Support. If anything, Iron maiden should redirect to the torture device. --Usgnus 02:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Comment But anyone who searches for the band name without capitalizing the M in "Maiden" does so by mistake. Those people can get where they want to go via the disambig page. —pfahlstrom 20:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree, plus also consider a lower case search --PopUpPirate 03:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Since no one could agree on the move request, it would be nice if we could agree afterward. A little background: I came to Wikipedia looking for the torture device's article, so I typed in iron maiden, and it went to the band article. The torture device has historical precedent of over a hundred years, and the band itself is named after the torture device, so I do not see how the band name can be seen as a primary use of the term. Because the band is named after the torture device, this is the very definition of "secondary." The band article itself already has a clear claim to Iron Maiden (capitalized) which no one is arguing against. If someone mistakenly types a lowercase m while looking for the band article, they can easily arrive at their desired location via the redirect page. 
I think the only real question is whether iron maiden (not capitalized) should be the name of the redirect page or of the torture device's article. I am personally fine with either one. —pfahlstrom 23:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the very least, in the absence of consensus, it should be put back to how it was before one lone user — one with a "metal music" user box on his user page — unilaterally moved it. This was one instance where being bold paid off, and trying to follow procedure clearly produced the wrong result. Bolivian Unicyclist 23:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank you. --Piet Delport 03:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus sought 

message: It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 00:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
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====Survey - in support of the move====
#Support. (But I would accept Tevildo's second alternative.) The device is primary; the band is named after it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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*So let me get this straight.  You move a page against the consensus of a previous survey and then oppose the move back since the page is already here.  Am I the only person that finds this illogical? Vegaswikian 03:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved it before reading the discussion, what does 'better know' mean? Please make sense M3tal H3ad 06:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

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====Survey - in support of the move====
#Support. (But I would accept Tevildo's second alternative.) The device is primary; the band is named after it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: #Support. (But I would accept Tevildo's second alternative.) The device is primary; the band is named after it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in support of the move

message: #Oppose.  I consider it very unwise to distinguish articles solely by captialization.  If the consensus is that the band is the primary reference of "Iron Maiden", we should maintain the status quo, with iron maiden redirecting to Iron Maiden and the disambig page explicitly named.  If, on the other hand, the consensus is that the band isn't the primary reference, the band's article should be at Iron Maiden (band), the disambig at iron maiden, and Iron Maiden should redirect to the disambig page.  Whatever happens, iron maiden and Iron Maiden should point to the same article. Tevildo 17:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

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*So let me get this straight.  You move a page against the consensus of a previous survey and then oppose the move back since the page is already here.  Am I the only person that finds this illogical? Vegaswikian 03:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved it before reading the discussion, what does 'better know' mean? Please make sense M3tal H3ad 06:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: If you type "ac/dc" (in minus.) you are directed to AC/DC (the band) and not to high voltage stuff. I can't understand why there are so many people bitching about the "iron maiden" disambiguation and not about other more important ones.80.28.202.37 15:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps because  AC/DC (electrical) is only a redirect and not a stand-alone article like iron maiden (torture device)? In any event, your position is not bolstered by describing statements made by those who hold a different view as "bitching". Bolivian Unicyclist 17:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Precedents

message: Reginmund, can you please explain here why you don't agree with the existing formatting of the Resident Evil 4 creature entry?  --Piet Delport 23:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is standard convention, though:  articles (or potential articles) get article style entries, sections of larger pages get anchor notation style entries.  The videogame itself should not be linked, unless there are no other available links for the entry (see the entry style guide).  --Piet Delport 03:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting