Talk:Chunking (psychology)

message: For an October 2004 deletion debate over :Votes for deletion/Chunking]]
:Note that the article is very different since that debate and many of the comments below took place.
:The article has also been split into several articles, and this one renamed from "Chunking".
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This is very, very close to gibberish. High-falutin' gibberish,goooble gobble but gibberish nonetheless. - DavidWBrooks 13:01, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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message: "Chunking has been used to describe diverse phenomena in psychology and cognitive science.[1] Among other meanings, it is a phenomenon whereby individuals group responses when performing a memory task. Tests where individuals can demonstrate "chunking" commonly include serial and free recall tasks. Both tasks require the individual to reproduce items that he or she had previously been instructed to study. Test items generally include words, syllables, digits/numbers, or lists of letters. Presumably, individuals that exhibit the "chunking" process in their responses are forming clusters of responses based on the items' semantic relatedness or perceptual features. The chunks are often meaningful to the participant."
I suggest we add information about how/why chunking is a memory technique which aids individuals in recalling more. "The chunks are often meaningful to the participant, and this meaning aids recall. An individual who could typically recall 6 items could create 6 meaningful chunks of say 3 digits, and through these chunks could recall 18 digits. For example, in a number recall task, a history fanatic could chunk numbers to create 6 meaningful dates, then recall those 6 dates, thereby recalling the ~24 numbers which made up those 6 dates. But this would only be useful to someone to whom those chunks of numbers (the history fanatic's dates) had meaning as one item"Annasjenkins (talk) 22:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that taking out the clustering information is an important change to make, as it would remove any misleading information relating to what chunking is exactly.  In my opinion, however, it would not be necessary to add the clustering information anywhere else in the article, as it seems to be a separate phenomenon based on the brain's ability to categorize things by type, rather than to form chunks out of arbitrary letters, numbers, etc. based on expertise.  Perhaps you could link to Chunking as a separate Wikipedia article, rather than including its information within this one.  Darcy.watts (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: What, exactly, is "incorrect" about associating the concept with Miller's paper, in which Miller uses the word "chunk," notes that "The span of immediate memory seems to be almost independent of the number of bits per chunk," and gives an example of the use of "chunking" to memorize 40-bit strings of binary digits?
:Miller suggested that 2-3 bits of information (ie, 7'ish items) might be encoded per dimension of some attribute.  Remembering 40-digit numbers is about creating an association between short sequences and and information held in longer term memory.  Will look up some sources.  Derek farn 10:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But Miller's 7±2 paper is quite clear on there not being a fixed number of bits in the span of immediate memory, and that the number of bits can be affected by recoding and chunking. 7±2 is not the number of bits. The reason he calls it a "magical" number is that it kept popping up in different contexts, not just "bits." The span of immediate memory is, according to Miller—I don't know what they're saying these days—about seven vaguely defined thingies. Dpbsmith (talk) 16:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Incorrect" association?

message: Apparently Chinese speakers outperform other language speakers in digit span memory tasks. There is empirical evidence to suggest that this is due to the differences in length of names of the digits. See this article for example: Digit "Span and Articulatory Suppression: A Cross-linguistic Comparison". Digit span was covered in my cognitive psychology lectures on chunking. Should it be covered in the current article? It is relevant to how items can enter short term store (or working memory). ----Action potential  t c 11:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chunking and digit span 

message: A well-known chunking study was conducted by Chase and Ericsson, who worked with an undergraduate student, SF, over two years. Chase and Ericsson wanted to see if a person's digit span could be improved with practice. SF began the experiment with a normal span of 7 digits. By the end of the experiment, his digit span had grown to 80 numbers. The increase was caused by SF's ability as a long-distance runner to chunk numbers into marathon times. He also expanded his strategy by incorporating ages and years. (From the book The Brain-Targeted Teaching Model for 21st Century Schools) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samliu365 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Expertise and Skilled Memory Effects 

message: Do you think a section about a specific memory condition (Alzheimer’s diseaseİ and the effect of chunking is a good idea? If yes, I will try to find a secondary source about the article. Adaaka (talk) 17:07, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Although this wouldn't be necessarily needed for the article, I think if you could find something relating the two it could show how effective chunking is as a mnemonic. There could also be some potentially interesting information if the person has some memories from earlier on in life if they could use that information for the process of chunking. Like chunking numbers into recognizable marathon times or area codes.Ospring1234 (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working memory task performance and chunking in early Alzheimer’s disease 

message: The first characteristic is that when individuals incorrectly recall an item in a serial recall task, it tends to come from a similar item. For example, it may be an item that they placed in the same grouping. Individuals that employ this strategy for recall will commonly misplace items they are grouping. Since one must recall items in the precise order they were presented during the serial recall task, any item that is even one position out of place is deemed incorrect. Therefore, according to how many groups an individual breaks the list into, misplacement of an item will be limited to within the confine of the size of the group.
The most convincing evidence for the existence of "chunking" is illustrated in the analysis of response times. When looking at this aspect of the test/response phase of a recall task, one observes response time as a function of output position. Therefore, this analysis allows for the measurement of the process of recall in each task participant. The recall or forgetting curve illustrate that each item in a cluster typically requires about the same amount of time to recall. This can be observed as strings of items where the response times are both similar, as well as very rapid. However, one can also see in these response time curves that the time between the "chunks" follows a different trend entirely. Items or periods of output where the individual is not recalling items that belong to a group require a significantly larger amount of time. Therefore, prior to the beginning and end of recall of a group of items in a "chunk," there is a jump in response time in the curve.Adaaka (talk) 21:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraphs That Should Be Moved to Clustering Wiki Page 

message: I think this section could be taken out as the content of it has already been mentioned earlier. Would other contributors agree with me?Adaaka (talk) 21:36, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short-term Memory Section 

message: I am currently working to improve this article and make it more suitable for Wikipedia. Here are some sources and studies that I found which I thought were good. 
* How Does Chunking Help Working Memory? by Mirko Thalmann
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* The Role of Chunking and Organization in The Process of Recall. by Neil Johnson
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* Post-iconic visual storage: Chunking in the reproduction of briefly displayed visual patterns. by DJ Bartram
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* What’s magic about magic numbers? Chunking and data compression in short-term memory. by Fabian Mathy
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* The Magical number Seven Plus or minus Two. by George Miller
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If you had the chance could you take a look and let me know what you think? Thanks,Mpsmith15 (talk) 21:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Sources for Improvement to the Article 

message: I found a number of references listed at the bottom of the page that need to be added as inline citations. I plan to find where the information was derived from and cite them within the actual page. Schachterjo19 (talk) 16:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I think that your plan to use the references and cite their use within the article and also add information from the references will be a very valuable addition to this page and will make it stronger and more informative. It is extremely important that readers know where the information that they are consuming has come from, and you will be able to do this for them. Great idea!
Jnasco (talk) 18:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits made by Schachterjo19 

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