Talk:Emory Tate

message: I am seeing reports on Facebook that he collapsed and died at a chess tournament, apparently on October 17, 2015. Krakatoa (talk) 06:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Frustrating lack of sources so far, just twitter, facebook and a few blogs and forums. MaxBrowne (talk) 12:05, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Died? 

message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDUOJpk7FWQ is an interview of Tristan Tate, who claims to be younger son of Emory Tate, and while most info isn't pertinent to this article it does include info about Emory including a claim he refused his pension because he was accused of being crazy.(37:37)    Stefan Molyneux is the interviewer 
major section about Emory starting around 33:08 talking about Tristan's family, 40:40 "what happened?" about Emory through 45 minutes....  but 57:20 has about 1 minute of info and a couple tid-bits thereafter...
hopefully this will be useful
--Qazwiz (talk) 20:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The video is deleted -- do you have a backup archive, like maybe on wayback? 174.211.175.35 (talk) 18:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  more info? Tristan Tate....     

message: After a quick google search of his name I found there is reasonable online presence to merit a Wikipedia page including two books that are written about him but by small time authors, so deleting the page completely wouldn’t be necessary. With that said, more notable achievements should be included to the page to extend the paragraphs such as any large wins in a chess tournament or any inventions or patents EnWikieditor (talk) 14:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information 

message: OK algebraic notation is not incomprehensible to chess players, but still I question the usefulness of this section. What about linking to the games at chessgames.com instead? Second best option after introducing a chess game playback feature such as is used in Hebrew wikipedia. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 13:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I would be ok with that, I really just object to the tagging, which is not accurate as notation is used widely across chess articles, obviously.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Incomprehensible" 

message: Why is it saying his son is a right wing internist personality with no source? 94.252.121.215 (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does it say right wing personality? 

message: Change the early life and education section by removing "rigth-wing" to describe Emory Tate's son Andrew Tate.
Reason: there is no source cited to support the claim that Andrew Tate belongs, supports or otherwise endorses any political party that could be associated with a rigth-wing ideology. Furthermore, very recently Andrew Tate himself said during an interview that he is ["apolitical"] stating ["I have so little faith in either side of the system, that I am now absolutely and utterly apolitical."]. (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrwHLfWYIw [timestamp 0:10-0:24]) 2.138.123.77 (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. MadGuy7023 (talk) 07:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2022 

message: Brent Peterson 2601:844:8101:BF40:AD:94CE:A37D:A1B8 (talk) 03:19, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celebrity friends 

message: Is it appropriate to refer to Andrew Tate as a reference to his father's chess style, while it is considered notable that a player does not use computers to aid their preparation it does seem problematic to cite Andrew Tate as a source on this as he has a history of mythologising his father, on the other hand it seems unlikely that there exists another source on the subject.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.188.107.177 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is also described by other sources, which are not merely paraphrasing his son. I think it's a nice quote, and probably better than trying to paraphrase it ourselves. DFlhb (talk) 02:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Chatted to Emory Tate a few times on ICC, and yeah he really was this larger than life WWE villain character. He did brag about never formally studying the game or using engines. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 05:23, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew Tate as a source on chess 

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replies: text: Changed the picture back. DFlhb (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Tate is still a relatively recently deceased person, and the recent prominence of his son makes the WP:BLP policy all the more relevant. If you're going to make claims that he had "narcissistic personality disorder" or whatever, you need rock solid sources. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 11:29, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: He's been dead for over seven years, so BLP no longer applies to him. WP:BDP says two years is the maximum one can reasonably extend the policy. But I agree that his son's YouTube channel is absolutely not a reliable source.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:24, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLP 

message: Is this a different form of chess? The article mentions “African-American Chess” 2603:3024:E3C:C000:44A1:314C:BFEC:246D (talk) 01:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask Maurice Ashley, we're just quoting him. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 06:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

text: African Americans used to be practically absent from high-end chess; Ashley became the very first Black grandmaster in 1999, and was since followed by a number of others. That's what it means. DFlhb (talk) 06:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  'That' clearly isn't 'what it means' as there is no such form of chess, otherwise it would appear in the international chess federation rules. That one person uses a phrase does not define a new form of chess. That Wikipedia spots it demonstrates why it is not taken seriously as an encyclopaedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.236.54 (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's completely normal to say something like "Tony Miles was a major figure in English chess" and people will know exactly what you mean. Only annoying pedants would call you out and say "is English chess different from normal chess?". Ashley's reference to "African American chess" is the same thing. Besides, we're quoting him, not necessarily endorsing the term itself. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 04:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is African-American Chess? 

message: Why are only his sons mentioned. His daughter might be embarrassed by her father's philandering behaviour and her brothers' ridiculous cult but she's a legitimate child! 161.142.158.55 (talk) 12:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Because she is not a public figure and has never sought the limelight, and under our policies (for example WP:BLPNAME), we exclude information that could lead to harm to such people (for example, harassment). We never imply that she is an illegitimate child; the infobox mentions 3 children, and she is one of the three. DFlhb (talk) 13:10, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daughter  

message: Remove controversial. It creates misguiding information TheOOWindow (talk) 17:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: M.Bitton (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2023 

message: I find it incredible that someone with amateur level of chess success deserves an article in Wikipedia. 
In chess, the top 20-30 are pros. These are ppl living out of playing pro chess, then there are some more who are i.e. chess coaches. But nobody outside the top 100 is living out of chess. Meaning they work smth else & chess is a hobby.
This Tate guy had a very low rating achieved fairly late in life, further proving he was an amateur player. Usually by 21-23 we know which players will be at the top, he was approaching over 50 when he was at his best! 
That's the case of an army guy playing chess as a hobby, but at no point he was ANYWHERE near close to be a professional player and thus worthy of being in the list of prominent International master chess prayers, let alone Grand Masters.
Even at the time there were 100s of kids with higher rating. 
In 1999 Maurice Ashley became the first black player to become GRAND Master, this Tate guy managed to get International Master(of which there are thousands) only in 2007.
It makes absolutely no sense why he has a chess player page, his achievements are of no significance whatsoever in the world of pro chess. 213.231.141.32 (talk) 02:29, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: he is the father of andrew tate. i bet elon musk's father has a page also. 154.238.216.135 (talk) 00:42, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's got nothing to do with who his son is. He has an article because he has significant coverage in reliable sources. His daughter, on the other hand, is not a public figure and so does not have an independent article. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:37, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does it exist? 

message: In the paragraph on CHESS, the last sentence of that paragraph, reads, "He received the international master tile in 2007,...."  International Master should be capitalized.  The fact that it is not capitalized, diminishes the honor.  Specifically, when 'the' precedes 'international master' and is immediately followed by 'title', it is implicit that it is an honorary title which has a name.  When International Master is capitalized it gives honor to the recipient; also to the organization giving the award, and to his peers who have gathered to honor him for his achievement.  It is correct to capitalize International Master as it is a 'thing', it is a noun. CuriousLemming (talk) 20:49, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punctuation, Spelling, and Form 

message: A tweet is not, of course, a reliabe source. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 06:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  He was known during his life time as Emory Andrew Tate Jr, not Emory Andrew Tate II