Talk:Edmund Allenby, 1st Viscount Allenby

message: Allenby decided to overfly Jerusalem, dropping leaflets which demanded their surrender. What he did not know was that the Turks believed in an old prophesy that they would never lose the Holy City until "a man of Allah came to deliver it. Allenby's signature on the leaflet was mistaken for "Allah Beh (man of Allah). The Turks surrendered without firing a shot...an incredible fulfillment of Biblical prophesy which put Israel under British mandate. This mandate, called the Balfour Declaration, called for a Jewish homeland and set the foundation for modern Israel. Jerusalem had been under Muslim control during centuries, with both Christians, Jews and Muslims living together as one community under Muslim ruling and majority.
"In 1917, the British general, Edmund Allenby, led his troops to surround the city of Jerusalem. It is reported that the night before his impending invasion, Allenby prayed that he might take the city without destroying the holy places. He had wired London for instructions and had received a simple reply---a scripture verse! As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it" (Isaiah 31:5). 
"The exciting prospects of such a thing led him to have the verse read aloud before all his troups positioned in the foothills of Jerusalem. Allenby commandeered every available aircraft for a fly-over. On the morning of December 10, what seemed like hundreds of planes skirted low from just over the 'Hill of Evil Council' which lies to the south of the Temple site. The sky was covered from wing tip to wing tip and from nose to tail with airplanes---British biplanes---captured German aircraft---everything that would fly!" 
"As they flew low over Jerusalem and the Eastern Gate, one of the pilots dropped a note demanding surrender---signed by General Allenby. The Turks were frightened by the multitude of planes. According to reports, the name of Allenby further frightened them, for the word 'Allah' in Arabic means 'God' and 'beh' is Arabic for 'son'. The Turks were looking at a demand for surrender signed by Allah-beh, the son of God! In response, they hoisted a white flag and surrendered the city without firing a single shot..."
Does anybody have any primary evidence to support these above claims? 
--Goldendroplets 21:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. See Battle of Jerusalem (1917), for a detailed description of the fighting which took place for the city, as its described in published accounts. --Rskp (talk) 05:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allenby and "Allah Beh" 

message: "Whilst making his way into Jerusalem, he insisted upon visiting visiting the grave of the great muslim leader Salah Ud-Din. Upon reaching his destination, he began to furiously kick the headstone of Salah Ud-Din. Finally out breath and covered in sweat, he proclaimed 'today, the crusades have ended'"
Someone paints quite a fanciful picture here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.180.98.220 (talk) 05:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Furiously kicking Saladdin's tomb 

message: Somebody has added some details, cited to a 2005 Mark Urban book which I don't have to hand, about a cavalry brigade miles away from where it should be and the brigade commander being in "scandalous" open rebellion against Allenby. This is referring to Hubert Gough in August 1914, right?Paulturtle (talk) 06:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scandalous Cavalry brigade 

message: I would like to reinstate the following
His appointment in 1919 as High Commisioner of Egypt came as the country was beginning to reject British rule. It had been under Martial Law since 1914 and several of their leaders, including Saad Zaghlul, had been exiled to Malta.
 
	
These deportations had led to demonstrations across the country, with Cairo isolated. Allenby’s first response was conciliatory. He persuaded the Colonial Office to allow Zaghlul and his delegation, wafd, to travel to France. Their intention was to present the Egyptian case to the Paris Peace Conference but they received no official recognition and returned to Egypt in failure.
The reference is the same as the following paragraph. Padres Hana (talk) 23:42, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, fine. The point is that all paragraphs should be sourced. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 23:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  High Commisioner  

message: In the Boer War section, there is an entire paragraph devoted to Allenby telling people to go to bed one night. As a commanding officer, that doesn't seem like an event worth including in his article. Any concerns if that paragraph is removed? --NuqneH10 (talk) 11:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the point is that he took a firm grip on his new command, not that that doesn't make him any different from many new bosses in any walk of life. Have trimmed the paragraph accordingly.Paulturtle (talk) 04:57, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boer War Unnecessary Information 

message: It was called Israel first. The name was changed to "Palastina" much later by the Roman empire.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:A040:188:6EA1:61D1:3F78:E004:5B62 (talk) 23:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does it say "Palestine" 

message: The citation for the date he was created Viscount in the first sentence of Section 5 Governor of Egypt. 7 October 1919 is Heathcote, Tony (1999). The British Field Marshals 1736–1997 p. 23. The relevant passage starts on page 22 and doesn't mention the specific date https://archive.org/details/britishfieldmars0000heat/page/22/mode/2up. However https://archive.org/details/burkespeeragebar0001unse/page/60/mode/2up (1999 edition; earlier editions don't appear to be online) does have the date of creation as 7 October.
I'd be grateful if someone could explain why the announcement that "The KING has been pleased ... to confer the dignity of a Viscount" on Allenby is dated October 18: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/issue/13519/page/3474. Mcljlm (talk) 06:04, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation as Viscount