Talk:Argyll

message: In Scotland counties only counties that share a name with their county town (or former county town) end in -shire. Examples are Perthshire or Kincardineshire. Counties such as Argyll whose county towns have a different name from them should not have the -shire suffix. -- Derek Ross |  Talk 17:53, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
:I agree, but it is still true that the region is often called "Argyllshire".  Notable examples include the Argyllshire Gathering, military units such as the 98th Argyllshire Highlanders, Argyllshire Advertiser and Ordinaance Survey maps.
::True, but that usage belongs to an era when attempts were made to rename Scotland "North Britain" and England "South Britain". Argyllshire is as archaic as either of those. Its usage survives in organisations such as the Argyllshire Advertiser, founded at that time, in the same way that North Britain survives in the title of the North British Railway. -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: Votes only please !
*Oppose - I do not want to see Argyll become a redirect page to Argyllshire at this time as I do not have the time to write an Argyll page. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 21:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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Let me just add that I'm starting to consider the edit wars surrounding traditional and modern counties and the "-shire" and "County of " factions to be some of the WP:LAMEst on the whole of Wikipedia. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 06:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move: voting

message: I actually did some research (User:Mais oui! made me do it, blame him) and the "correct" usage is likely "the county of X", where X is either Fife, Cromarty, Argyll, Ross, Sutherland, Caithness, Bute, &c, or the the county town(s). That's what is used in Hansard as of 1830-1832."Ilminster, in the County of Somerset""the Town and Parish of Sheffield, in the County of York""the Town of Linlithgow, in the County of Linlithgow""the Parish of Fintray, County of Aberdeen""the Burgh of Rothesay, in the County of Bute""Gordonstown, and others, in the County of Elgin and Forres""Dingwall be declared a Part of the County of Ross""the Presbytery of Lorn, in the County of Argyll"Beats Google hits. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 22:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
Let me just add that I'm starting to consider the edit wars surrounding traditional and modern counties and the "-shire" and "County of " factions to be some of the WP:LAMEst on the whole of Wikipedia. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 06:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request move: discussion

message: The term Argyll seems to be problematic. The Irish annals in the time of Somerled treat Kintyre and Argyll as separate entities. This again reflected in the King William's thirteenth century Law of Claremathan. Even 17th century maps mark only the lands of Cowal as being Argyll.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:A715:9A00:E9AC:4430:2F47:1B90 (talk) 23:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kintyre was not part of Argyll