Template talk:Coor dms/Archive 1

message: Is there anyway to program this template to eliminate the external link symbol (featuring an arrow coming out of a little box) that follows it?  It can cause display problems when the template is used in the body of article text (such as a paragraph) or in an infobox. — Eoghanacht talk 15:23, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, see  for an example of this. However, it is an external link in this case . . . Srl 02:51, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link symbol 

message: I might be incredible old-fashioned, silly or just wrong, but I prefer to use the following symbols for degrees, minutes and seconds:
degrees: ° or ° and not º 
minutes: apostrophe or ' and not ´, ′ or &#prime;
seconds: " or " and not “, ″ or &#Prime; 
For testing purposes copy and paste to e.g. Google Earth and look at the difference. 
Is it possible to implement this in the template for future use.
Gemsbok2 13:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC-1)
The correct HTML entity to use for minutes is ′ or ′
The correct HTML entity to use for seconds is ″ or ″
•DanMS 01:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don’t see the gap on my computer (Mozilla Firefox on Windows XP, both at home and at work). That could be something unique to a particular browser/operating system, or combination thereof. Have you heard from any other users with the same problem? Try the HTML entities page on my website . You can click on any HTML entity and it will show you the spacing associated with the particular entity. •DanMS 16:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The coor template does not render in Firefox 1.5 on Mac OS X (10.4).  I'm seeing something like: DD°mm________.  (It looks fine in Safari on OS X and Firefox 1.5 on Linux.) --Gruepig 07:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minutes and seconds symbols 

message: Why is this template protected? —Keenan Pepper 05:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: protection log -- Netoholic @ 05:11, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected? 

message: When I click the coor dms link from geographical articles, for instance, from the bottom of Edessa, Greece, it takes me to a Map Sources "special page" with instructions in Dutch, even though this is English Wikipedia. It still works, but the instructions were in English until a few days ago. Art LaPella 19:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone fixed it. Thank you. Art LaPella 00:47, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dutch interwiki: nl:Coor dm Please add.--Hardscarf 13:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

text: It is  nl:sjabloon:Coor dm. Please add. (why i can not edit this template??) 82.210.115.114 15:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dutch

message: Can somebody either unprotect this template, or make the following edit to the source:
:°′″, °′″
This change prevents incorrect line wrapping when viewed using IE - the line can only be broken at the space. For more background to this issue please see:
*User talk:Zyxw#coor dms2
*Template talk:Coor dms2
If this is done we can avoid forking this template with a  version that has this modification and it can be put up for WP:TfD. Thanks/wangi 14:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line wrapping 

message: When viewing under IE if a coor dms splits over two lines then the standard link image is corrupted. Does anyone have a possible solution for this? One option is setting the class to class=plainlinksneverexpand, but of course this removes the logo completely. Thanks/wangi 14:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Ruud 15:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  This change falsifies the status  of the external link it produces, making it appear to be an internal lk. This must be promptly and authoritatively justified here to prevent reversion.--21:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External link image

message: Please add an interwiki link to the Vietnamese version of this template:
 vi:Tiêu bản:Coor dm
Thanks.
 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Gflores Talk 04:26, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Done. Gflores Talk 17:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki link to vi: 

message: At present  is using the symbol 2032 for the minutes apostrophe, and it doesn't even display in Firefox under Windows. I would like it changed. So °′ °′ would become °′ °′, as is already the case in .
Cheers — SteveRwanda 09:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. At least I think so, both worked fine on my computer and I have no idea why didn't work for you, as the two methods should be entierly equivalent? —Ruud 19:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please can Coor dm be edited to match Coor dms? 

message: I believe the following changes should be made to the interwiki links.
*  should link to :es:plantilla:Coor_dms
*  includes a link to :nl:sjabloon:Coor dmThis is wrong. It should link to :nl:sjabloon:Coor dms
*  should link to :nl:sjabloon:Coor dm
*  should link to :es:plantilla:Coor dm
*  should link to :es:plantilla:Coor d
--David Edgar 10:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Ruud 00:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwiki links (es / nl) needing changes

message: This template has suddenly started appearing all on its own line in articles. I find it disruptive, but I can't find anything in the template source code that could be causing this. Is this something in the template source code or a bug in Wikipedia? JIP | Talk 17:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template appearing on its own line 

message: Further to the section above about the co-ordinates breaking over two lines, can someone get around to implementing this? At the moment, the co-ordinates often break at inconvenient points when breaking over two lines, making it look very strange. Obviously this depends on individual screen resolutions and settings, but an example is Caroline Island where, for me, the break appears like this:
:9°56′13.13″S
:, 150°12′41.40″W
This just looks weird. Inserting non-breaking spaces at the right points should solve this. Carcharoth 11:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I've just changed your example article to use  instead - seem more appropriate! But I did test adding a nbsp, and it still splits on the space (see User:Wangi/test). Thanks/wangi 12:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How can you tell if it still spilts on the space? As far as I can tell (by inserting text before it until it reaches the end of the line in my browser), the nbsp has solved the problem. Carcharoth 16:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Use the page as a template in an article, for example:  which will result in  ... And it does appear to work - argh - I must have got mixed up earlier! Thanks/wangi 16:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Spoke too soon... It doesn't! I guess we need to look at puttign the whole lot into a white-space:nowrap span? /wangi 16:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm satisfied by that. Thanks to both of you for helping out here and responding (presumably) to the "edit protected" template tag I used. Please feel free to replace the tag with the "editprotected review" notice. Carcharoth 08:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line breaking 

message: Please provide interwiki to Kannada language wikipedia.
kn:Template:Coor dms 
Thanks, - KNM  Talk -  Contribs 20:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Ruud 00:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwiki

message: It seems that this template needs 9 entries for the URL, but only 8 for the display of the location. What is this 9th entry for? Mike Peel 09:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Parameters. Thanks/wangi 10:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the 9th required entry? 

message: Please change the interwiki links to these I found with google:
:als:Vorlage:Coor dms
bg:Шаблон:Coor dms
br:Patrom:Dave douar.
ca:Plantilla:Coor dms
cs:Šablona:Coor dms
da:Skabelon:Coor dms
el:Πρότυπο:Coor dms
eo:Ŝablono:Coor dms
es:plantilla:Coor dms
fi:Malline:Coor dms
fo:Fyrimynd:Coor dms
fr:Modèle:Coor dms
hi:Template:Coor dms
hr:Predložak:Coor dms
hu:Sablon:Coor dms
id:Templat:Coor dms
is:Snið:Coor dms
it:Template:Coor dms
ka:თარგი:Coor dms
kk:Template:Coor dms
kn:Template:Coor dms
la:Formula:Coor_dms
lt:Šablonas:Coor dms
mk:Шаблон:Coor dms
nl:sjabloon:Coor dms
nn:Mal:Coor dms
pl:Szablon:Coor dms
pt:Predefinição:Coor dms
ro:Format:Coor dms
ru:Шаблон:Coor dms
sh:Template:Coor dms
sk:Šablóna:Coor dms
sl:Predloga:Coor dms
sq:Stampa:Coor dms
sr:аблон:Coor dms
tl:Template:Coor dms
vi:Tiêu bản:Coor dms
zh:Template:Coor dms
Cheers! --Bkkbrad 17:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --   Netsnipe  ►  18:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add interwiki links 

message: This template hasn't been working for a couple of days. Clicking a coordinates link produces an error page. Alan Pascoe 21:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The move to use Google Maps is temporary, I hope? I really liked being able to choose the map source (I used Topozone all of the time) hike395 04:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template not working 

message: Hi, I've moved the documentation from this Talk page to the the subpages (e.g.,Template:Coor d/doc), as recommended in Wikipedia:Template doc page pattern. Also, there are multiple templates that link to this talk page, so please edit the following templates:
:Template:Coor d:
[____ °  ° ]




:Template:Coor dm:
[______ °′ °′]




:Template:Coor dms:
[________ °′″, °′″]




Thanks. +mwtoews 20:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done —Mets501 (talk) 02:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved documentation

message: Hi. Is there any way of telling the link to select a hybrit instead of map on google? I'm putting some links to tunisia, and the maps there aren't that great. So I would like to have it hybrit by default. Is that possible?--81.215.93.23 23:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hybrit, Satelite vs Map 

message: Should anyone wish to use a small icon for the Geo microformat, to alert people to its presence in infobox templates which use the above, there's one, freely available, at :Image:Geo-microformat-button.png. It looks like this:  and may be linked to Geo (microformat). Andy Mabbett 10:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it would be a good idea to use this in article space. —Ruud 11:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? Andy Mabbett 12:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I could come up with a few arguments, the most important one being that it is not encyclopaedic content (even those featured article stars and links to portals, both more relevant than this geo icon, were quite controversial.) Others would be that some people might consider it to be spam, it would open up the door for loads and loads of other icons cluttering the article pages, there being other less intrusive ways to promote microformats, ... —Ruud 19:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's as encyclopaedic as "what links here" et al; it can hardly be spam if it links to an other article on Wikipedia or WikiBooks/ Wiktionary  and less so than "powered by MediaWiki"; and it wouldn't be "promoting microformats", it would be promoting microformats on Wikipedia (and could link to a specific page for that purpose, instead of the generic article, if desired) - as a feature that WP provides which rivals do not. That said, an alternative might be to place it after, and inline with, text like "Coordinates: 52.530° N 1.928° W" in the top-right hand corner of pages such as Hamstead railway station; it's no more spam than the preceding "Coordinates" link. Andy Mabbett 20:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You haven't argued what value the icon adds for a reader. Further more, I do not find the comparisons you make valid: the "what links here" link and friends and the "powered by MediaWiki" logo are not part of the article but of the interface; the "coordinates" label is a description of a piece of encyclopaedic content which might just as well be linked to an article which describes how to interpret that content, the geo icon does not describe encyclopaedic content but is meant to attract attention to some invisible feature. —Ruud 22:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You haven't argued what value the icon adds for a reader - it informs the reader that there is a Geo microformat on the page, and invites them to find out what a microformat is, what they can do with them and where to obtain tools which will enable them to make better use of them. As such, it is directly analogous with the "coordinates" label - it is' a description of a piece of encyclopaedic content which might just as well be linked to an article which describes how to interpret that content. Andy Mabbett 22:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Indeed, but this isn't about "showing support", it's about advising users of a new feature. Andy Mabbett 11:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Which shouldn't be done in article space. I will construct an argument on why it is not directly equivalent to the coordinates label at a later time. —Ruud 17:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Icon

message: I'm getting complaints about the use of this on Ridge Route: see Wikipedia:Peer review/Ridge Route/archive1. Is there a way to shorten the link, possibly make it read "maps"? --NE2 22:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about  Swede's Cut, but with the external link icon having been replaced with a globe? —Ruud 23:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't work, since it won't change if the "geohack" page moves. --NE2 23:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:   I actually meant that a template could be modified/created to achieve this effect. —Ruud 23:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes. That would be useful. How about adding a "name" or "title" parameter to this? --NE2 23:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks very much. --NE2 00:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is there any way to shorten the link?

message: ;replaces old coor templates and adds Geo microformat.
Since no one has objected to the proposed , I have renamed it to  and redirected each of , ,  to .  I won't be surprised if unforeseen issues come up; feel free to revert if necessary. —Quarl (talk) 2007-04-02 11:30Z
BTW I haven't yet done the analogous , which should be quite easy given the refactoring done to create .  —Quarl (talk) 2007-04-02 11:34Z
:Thank you. [SFX: cheers, tickertape, marching band]. Andy Mabbett 12:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coor family replaced by {{tl|coord}}