Talk:Rufus Wainwright

message: Should The McGarrigle Hour be listed in the discography?  How?  He was one of several performers (almost all related).  --Samuel Wantman 09:43, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The McGarrigle Hour 

message: You might want to add his two performances on the soundtrack.  The first song is a cover of Roger Miller's "King of the Road" (with Teddy Thompson), and a good one at that.  However, the second song "The Maker Makes" is an original, I believe.  It may have even been written for this film. Either way it's classic, haunting Wainwright (to this non-Wainwright fan's ear).
The movie may or may not meet with wide acclaim or financial success, but it will undoubtedly be a milestone in mainstream cinema, at least for gay filmgoers.  This was probably his motivation for contributing.
Whether or not the film or its actors do well during the awards season, the composer & arranger for the score (Gustavo Santaolalla) may receive a few prizes for good writing and bringing together a collection of iconic country and gay musicians as dichotomous as cowboys and homosexuals.  70.213.12.217 18:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions to soundtrack of Brokeback Mountain 

message: I'm curious about the recent reversion of the Canadian-American label. Is he really not Canadian? Given that Kate McGarrigle is Canadian, he would automatically have Canadian citizenship under the rule of jus sanguinis (right of blood) at birth, even though he was born in the United States. Darkcore 22:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  American? Canadian-American? 

message: I think much of the recent additions to the "Themes" section lacks NPOV and is original research. For example, I don't agree at all with the notion that becuase "many of his songs contain phallic references" necessarily makes "it largely impossible for anyone but a gay man to author or perform his songs." One, it doesn't seem accurate to state that "many" songs contain phallic references, and two, just becuase they have phallic references doesn't mean that only a gay man could write or perform them. --mtz206 03:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, i can see that the "gay voice to a gay object" might be an important theme to mention, I'm just not sure about the argument that such a theme keeps non-gay folks from enjoying his songs. I can sing along to a gay song and appreciate it for what it is, no matter whether I can fully relate to its sentiments. --mtz206 19:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes 

message: Not sure why RW's contribution to Craig Armstrongs Album has been deleted, but I've just added it back in Ninefish 01:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contributions

message: There seems to be a bit of a dispute at the moment over whether or not "Gay Messiah"  is a political song or not. Thoughts?
(I have no real opinion on the issue, so please do not direct your arguments at me. I can see it going either way - no, the lyrics aren't necessarily explicitly political, but even the title could be taken as a political statement.) --DearPrudence 22:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the song can definitely be considered political. Rufus himself has described it as a protest song. (source) Unetta 09:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I'm adding it back in. --DearPrudence 01:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gay Messiah" - political song or not? 

message: The "Themes" section seems to be missing quite a number of citations. While the content of some of his songs are obvious, the less obvious ones ("Tulsa" and "Matinee Idol", as examples) should have citations for their inspiration. Also, if there are rumors about Wainwright and Brandon Flowers being lovers, that should definitely have a cite, as that's potentially highly controversial. Parthenogenetic 21:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, and I also think we're being a bit broad with the "themes". Brandon Flowers would not count as a theme unless Rufus had written a number of songs about him. I vote that we either remove this piece of information entirely (it's mentioned on the Release the Stars page, anyway) or move it - and other bits like it, such as the anecdote about Jeff Buckley - to another part of the article or section. --DearPrudence 02:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing citations 

message: I don't know how useful this may be to this article but I found this on one of the OK Go members' blogs. Rosa 03:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hee. I'm not sure that we can fit it into the article, but thank you for sharing that anyway. :D --DearPrudence 04:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  anecdote 

message: Under the addiction subheading, it's mentioned that during his debaucherous week, Rufus "played a drug addict in a cameo role in a UK comedy television programme 'Absolutely Fabulous.'"  I have just seen the cameo in the episodes entitled 'Gay' and his role is less than five seconds, and only consists of him small talking with Patsy, echoing her drunken mannerisms.  Am I missing something?  I will retool the reference. Kurtto (talk) 15:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Absolutley Fabulous Cameo

message: Is there a source for his nationality? TIA --Tom 14:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does he hold Canadian citizenship?TIA --Tom 22:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps it is my Canadian bias, but I thought he was more often referred to as Canadian. His mother is Canadian and he was raised mostly in Canada. This Rolling Stone interview refers to him "calling from his native Canada". This 2008 article says he holds both American and Canadian citizenship. --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will try to edit the article accordingly. Thanks for the source! Cheers, --Tom 14:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality

message: The article currently says that the sexual assault at age 14 "postponed his becoming promiscuous", whilst the cited article says that at first "Wainwright's first homosexual experience traumatised him so much, he embarked on a promiscuous spree." This earlier article explains how he later ended up staying celibate for so long: "I was out for sex, and boy did I get it," he says. "It was insane, and basically I ended up thinking I had AIDS for the next seven to ten years." I believe this fear should be added because it plays quite an important part in his work (most notably in Barcelona, it also nudged him further towards opera; he would "write little operas, and I wrote a requiem for myself.")  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SubtleKnife00 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Promiscuity/Celibacy

message: [Loudon Wainwright III (a direct descendant of Peter Stuyvesant, the last Director-General of New Netherland.]
What does this mean? If he is a "direct descendant of Peter Stuyvesant" in the male line, then why isn't his surname Stuyvesant? If he is not a descendent in the direct male line, what is he?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.5.121 (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Direct descendant"

message: Just for the record, in case this information pertains to an "impact" section for the article, following is a list of artists that have covered Wainwright: 
*"Damned Ladies" - Audra McDonald on Build a Bridge
*"Dinner at Eight" - Keane on Connect Sets
*"Going to a Town" - Mathilde Santing on 49 + TV performance
*"Greek Song" - The Manhattan Transfer on Vibrate
*"Imaginary Love" - Jasper Steverlinck on Songs of Innocence
*"Oh What a World" - Sonos on Live on KCRW (EP)
*"Poses" - Dave Douglas on The Infinite; Keren Ann; Christine Tobin on Secret Life of a Girl; Academical Village People on Academical is Not a Word; Julia Dollison on Observatory; Mel Flannery on Mel Flannery Trucking Co.
*"Rebel Prince" - The Beautiful South on Golddiggas, Headnodders and Pholk Songs
*"Vibrate" - The Manhattan Transfer on Vibrate
Feel free to add to the list if more covers emerge in the future! --Another Believer (Talk) 03:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artists that have covered Wainwright 

message: There should be something here about the Shakespearian sonnets he was commissioned to score for a play in Germany that debuted recently.
66.41.253.22 (talk) 22:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shakespearian sonnet cycle 

message: This article isn't structured such that it has a personal life section, so I am not sure how to include this. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baby! 

message: * http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/rufus-wainwright-partner-jorn-weisbrodt-plan-tie-knot-august-long-island-article-1.1030956?localLinksEnabled=false
--Another Believer (Talk) 20:32, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage 

message: I don't know why people keep changing it. Rufus is American-Canadian. He is both of American and Canadian descend and he has dual citizenship. I'm adding a reference from a Vanity Fair article where he comfirmed dual citizenship.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 18:25, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship 

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