Talk:Mary Nolan

message: If the hospital stay was well documented, it should be easy to provide a reliable source for this  contested edit. Meters (talk) 09:01, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "well documented" six-month hospital 

message: In the Later Years section, it reads:
Unfortunately for Nolan, more stringent laws that expressly protected women from physical assault were not passed in the state of California until 1945, finally making it a felony punishable by up to ten years in prison.
First, the cite (the book Battered wives) given doesn't mention Nolan at all (per Google Books search), so we have no cited reliable sources that discusses Nolan in the context of then-future law that may have affected her situation.  Second, this is a kind of speculative commentary where we making an assumption that a law, if it had existed earlier, would have somehow made matters different for Nolan.  But since it didn't exist earlier, it didn't apply to the actual facts of her life.  This frankly reads as an author's conclusion about what might have been, rather than strict encyclopedic text.  On both counts, I don't think this content belongs, although I am open to other editorial interpretations. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 07:58, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not checked if the reference was adequate, I only improved the Wikisource.  If the reference does not support the claims we may need to remove the claim or to find a better reference (I have no objection to either).  — PaleoNeonate — 08:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

text: That approach would be fine for an Op-Ed, but this is an encyclopedia, where we basically describe what happened, i.e., what happened in this person's life.  Conjecture about what happened after maybe having helped the subject if it happened earlier might be add-worthy but only if reliable sources use Nolan as an example in the way you describe.  Otherwise, it's just an editor's commentary. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:38, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improperly cited commentary 

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message: removed the line "born into a Jewish family" as unsupported - and I agree. The information was added as part of an edit ""https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mary_Nolan&oldid=983720377"" but seems to be opposite of the cited articles. You can question the integrity of early gossip sheets, but this https://www.virtual-history.com/movie/page/10250 clearly describes her working in a convent - an unlikely destination for a Jewish girl in 1910. CMacMillan (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of mentioned religion