Talk:20th century

message: I believe it to be evident that among broader society there is no unified consensus to when a century starts or ends, although the majority opinion seems to be that it starts in '00 and ends in '99
Why do I believe this?
Well first off, the definition of a century:
-a century is a span of 100 years
-there is no codified start or end to the century, that is no central authority to define it
Now consider the following:
-The Current epoch for the calendar was not set until 525 AD, thus the term 'first century AD', has only ever been used retroactively, thus it has always been an edge-case
-Using the definition of the start of the century as being in in '00 leads to a problem. Either the First century must start at 1 BC, or on 1 AD but only last 99 years, making it not a true century. However, the 16th century is often defined with a Julian start date and a Gregorian end date, meaning that the term 16th century is often used to refer to a time period 10 days shy of a century.
-Many implementations of the Gregorian calendar today are actually implementations of ISO-8601, a calendar system that does have a year zero, thereby negating the issue entirely.
-On January 1st 2000, people from across the world came to celebrate the beginning of the third millennium, and the 21st century, this event is so well known and so much ingrained in the public psyche that denying this would be absurd.
I would also like to apologise for not coming on the talk page first before attempting to edit the article, that caused unnecessary conflict.
I eagerly await the responses from those who I was engaged in the edit war with, hopefully this will sort things out.2204happy (talk) 15:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: So no references then? FDW777 (talk) 15:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

text: See Wikipedia:No original research (first paragraph) and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view (first paragraph). Either this viewpoint has been published by references, or it doesn't belong here at all. FDW777 (talk) 16:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: 2204Happy, please do not render a common fallacy to be valid, it's easy, simple mathematics.(KIENGIR (talk) 00:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

text: I uphold what I said. The issues is marginal, wer WP:DUE not leadworthy, a lame fallacy indeed.(KIENGIR (talk) 05:34, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a whole bunch of weak references that mostly aren't regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject. FDW777 (talk) 08:16, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I have not much time for evident issues, a simple, average ability to count properly. General consideration has nothing to do necessarily with facts. What starts in 1 Jan 2000, is the start of the 2000th year, the last year of the cluster, shall that cluster embrace a decade, century or millenia. Project it to a decade. 1 Jan 10, is the start of the last year of it, the 10th years which ends in 31 dec 10, and the next decade starts on 1 Jan 11, and the 11th year will be the first one of the next decade, evidently, etc.(KIENGIR (talk) 07:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A couple of regional newspapers, one of them a tabloid, do not carry the same weight as the New York Times, especially when they don't even say what you think they do.  A "slow news day" story about two couples planning to "celebrate the millennium" together is meaningless. FDW777 (talk) 09:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

text:  (Comment deleted - I GOT myself)  SquashEngineer (talk) 17:17, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Start and End of the twentieth century 

message: *Remove The section is too arbitrary.  With no guidelines, an arguement could probably be made for including any 20th Century person who has an article about them. Carptrash (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion is for this article only.  We are not making policy, just fixing this article. Carptrash (talk) 05:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A formal proposal to remove the entire  " Significant people" section. 

message: Should Norway really be considered a world power/empire? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.66.2.179 (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Norway doesn't appear to be mentioned in the article at all.  What are you referring to? User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norway as a world power or empire? 

message: In the article it mentions "The century had the first global-scale total wars" but the first global war is believed to be the seven years war during the 18th century. TaipingRebellion1850 (talk) 04:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but total war involves the full mobilization of a society's own resources and the targeting of civilians and civilian-resources by the combatants. Which is more associated with the two 20th-century global wars than the Seven Years' War. Dimadick (talk) 07:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was not the first century to see global war?