Talk:Gwen Stefani/Archive 1

message: Does the "free the harajuku girls" movement consist of anything more than the one listed blog? Tcassedy 07:40, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not. I don't get it anyway. How do you free someone from doing something voluntary? Everyking 09:19, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

text: There's a tutorial at Wikipedia:Uploading images.  ShadowHalo 16:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: Do we really need to discuss her favorite food here? Or her hair color before the 7th grade? This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. 66.245.219.5 20:43, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs to be reworked, yes, but I believe the information itself is fine. Everyking 20:49, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Her platinum blonde hair color has been something that she has been known for for years.  When it started would seem to me to be of interest to those reading an encyclopedia entry about her. Dismas 20:55, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: I'm not crazy about the food thing either but I think the hair bit fits in a bit better now.  See what'cha think. Dismas 03:32, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some editing on this page, but besides minor reorganization and addition of sections, I didn't touch the main text much;  I was more interested in her connection to her Harajuku girls. I think the main text could probably still use work to make it flow better.  <shrug> Maybe I'll come back here later, but I invite others to take up the torch. Khamsin 03:40, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Information and what-not

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: Should we add any other images to the section? 64.231.113.36 20:38, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know where exactly you mean, but I think it would be nice to include the Tragic Kingdom cover image in the article. It's one of the more famous images of her. The dress she wore for that picture even got stolen recently. Everyking 21:38, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

text: It is everywhere else in the article, so I replaced them for consistency.  I'm never sure about the use of italics in cases like this; it always strikes me as being useful because, unlike people's names, band names can be confusing in the context of a sentence (I mean, are we talking about the Damned or The Damned?  about cream or Cream?  I must admit that I haven't checked the MoS on this. Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 22:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

text: It wasn't doing that for me, but one can never account for how something is going to look on someone else's screen, so thanks for fixing it. Everyking 21:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Someone has to delete the "Bubble Pop Electric" article. The song is not going to be Gwen's fourth single. DrippingInk 20:36, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you to whomever removed the article... even though that was about three weeks ago. 64.231.112.29 18:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Giben that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, neither of them should be there until the single is released. Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 08:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. If one or the other is known from an official source to be the next single, then it should be included. Does anyone know if Gwen herself has said anything about it? Everyking 08:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Just to clarify that: if there were an offical source, the article should say something like: "According to XYZ, the next single will be...".  We shouldn't say it, we should report that someone else has said it. Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 11:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I myself am getting quite fed up with this war too. "Cool" and "Bubble Pop Electric" have been tossed back and forth so frequently that it is starting to vex me. A tad bit too much too, if I may add. Someone find a reliable source, and find it fast. If "Cool" or "Bubble Pop Electric" is going to be released sometime in July or August, a source shouldn't be too difficult to find, I quote. 64.231.152.144 23:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Bubble Pop Electric" removal

message: Would it be reasonable to include information from when Stefani was young? Or would that be considered crossing the line? I do know that there is such thing as going a bit too far. DrippingInk 20:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, thats not considered over the line. Nardhole 01:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Early years

message: Do we really need to include periods between the U and the S in "US"? It grabs the attention of the reader and makes them focus on the dots instead of the actual reading. I request that we remove the periods. DrippingInk July 8, 2005 13:50 (UTC)
:It's Wikipedia style (and standard usage). --Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 8 July 2005 15:09 (UTC)
::Then why doesn't the "UK" require periods? (U.K.) DrippingInk July 8, 2005 20:07 (UTC)
:::It's pointed out here but I can't find the actual MoS entry on it right now. Dismas 8 July 2005 20:19 (UTC)
I use the full stops (as we call them here) for U.K. too; it's just not required by the MoS. --Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 8 July 2005 21:26 (UTC)
:"As disambiguators, well-known acronyms such as "US" or "UK" are encouraged, to minimize typing. So, the preferred usage is Great Northern Railway (US)."
:Where does it note the required dots? DrippingInk July 9, 2005 00:53 (UTC)
::Wikipedia:Manual of style#National varieties of English:
:::"When abbreviating United States, please use "U.S."; that is the more common style in that country, is easier to search for automatically, and we want one uniform style on this. When referring to the United States in a long abbreviation (USA, USN, USAF), periods should not be used"
::--Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) July 9 2005 09:21 (UTC)
...Whatever you say. 64.231.71.189 14:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not me, the Manual of style. --Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 15:07, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: U.S.

message: I don't want to vandalise the article, but I need to vent frustration at Gwen Stefani's bold racism; therefore, I'm putting this here, not on the entry.
Her fetishisation of and subsequent association with asian popular culture is unbelievably brash and, yes, offensive.  As though asian culture hasn't been systematically reduced by hollywood into demure, giggling, sexy girls and jump-kicking, obedient martial artists, here comes a caucasian woman ready to buy japanese girls and display them on stage.  It's good to know that the "exotic" looks of the east are so in-vogue with the hip set.  It's good to know that the heritage of Christopher Columbus is still alive in America: good to know that people, when confronted with a different culture, are ready to buy it and unabashedly display it for public consumption, for the gawkers to gaze at, stupefied.  Yes. Watch them short japs dance. With their little chinky eyes and yellow skin.  Meanwhile, Utada Hikaru finds only a niche audience in the States.  I guess them asians don't matter when they're actually singing, just so long as they can dance and look submissive and cute behind a white face. jglc | t | c 19:16, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: This is just solely based on my opinion, however i'd like to share it with the other community here. Ever since her track released "Harajuku Girls" it seems that is all she is able to talk about. I've seen multiple interviews with her how she discusses the likings of the japanese girls, style and their way of life. Is it just me, or does she go overboard with her interests?
There is a fine line between being yourself and being what you're not, it seems she is starting to fall in the category of "I'm a white girl that wants to be like a Japanese girl. I want style". There are other ways to get style such as being creative and doing it you'reself, but with Gwen all it is, is the Japanese Style.
I think this is a downfall for her, in my opinion.
Kimsan 01:35, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes they are. The Sweet escape has the girls in blonde wigs. Nardhole 01:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gwen, and her liking for the Japanese Style.. 

message: I think the front picture is inappropreate for a younger audiance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wack'd About Wiki (talk • contribs) 20:12, 13 August 2005. 
:First, that's riduculous, and secondly Wikipedia is not censored for the protection of minors. --Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 22:51, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: I'm not sure. The way this article was written made it sound like her father came from Italy. Most likely, her father is of Italian descent and therefore not "Italian" but Italian American. So I changed that description. I apologize if I am incorrect in doing this, but it seems to me that if her father was actually from Italy then I would've heard about that. -- Campania 03:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Gwen Stefani's father is Armenian along with her grandfather so yes she is part Armenian.Nareklm 21:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Armenian? I've heard of Gwen Stefani has Albanian or Arab descent, then who cares about that? Gwen Stefani is a great singer and an inspiring actress, but she introduced the "Harajuku" Japanese teen culture to the US and she's now a "racist" holding a "ministrel show, but with yellow people?"? I'm sick and tired of the entertainment industry pretend to oppose racial stereotypes, but are accused of stirring up emotion or tension on racial minorities. Enough! Gwen has some light blond hair, so she may be part-German and of course, some Irish or Scottish in her. She may have a similar ethnic background like Christina Aguilera (but she's half-Ecuadorian by her father, but lots of typically "white" features) or this rumor of Britney Spears is one-fifth Native American. I wouldn't care less if she's as Armenian like Cher or Italian like Sonny Bono...as Arab (Syrian or Lebanese) as Paula Abdul, or Danny Thomas or his daughter Marlo Thomas for that matter. Before this new info. on Gwen's ethnicity (not race, since Arabs and Armenians aren't "races" but are nations) is edited in the article, you must offer references (look for biographical web sites) if it's true. 63.3.14.129 17:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is her father Italian or Italian American?

message: Recently a line was added stating she had AIDS. Is this true? I haven't heard that, and it was added in a strange place. 82.2.199.126 22:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  AIDS? 

message: There is another unreleased track from way back, called "Saw Red", with Brad Nowell from Sublime.
I think it may have been before she was in No Doubt, so I'm not positive of the year.
-Gwen was a founding member of No Doubt back in 1986, so I doubt it was before that. Terrafire 18:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saw Red 

message: Someone needs to replace that vandalism tag that is currently put in. It's placed in an awkward position making it so that the pic of Gwen is floating up by itself. It needs to be placed in the very top so that the picture resides with the article instead off somewhere else as it is now. --681dragon 05:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism Tag 

message: I've added the cleanup tag. Basically here's what I put uner the entry:
:Biography section is not detailed enough about her origins. The first paragraph goes from birth to her latest solo album. There isn't enough information about her childhood and/or upbringing. The sources are out there. Considering how much attention her singles get, I'm sure her fans can improve her article. --malber 15:11, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:CU|Cleanup]] tag added 

message: Would someone like to provide a source which states whether it either is or is not Gwendolyn? 195.92.168.175 13:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what it says on her CA birth record:
 STEFANI, GWEN RENEE 1969-10-03 Mother's last name: FLYNN Gender: FEMALE County: ORANGE
--Fallout boy 01:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Gwendolyn?

message: I was curious if anyone would be interested in putting more on Stefani's transition from rock-pop to pop.  There has been a lot of positive and negative feedback surrounding this transformation and I think it's notable.  I'd do it myself, but I'm a little weak on info.  Just a comment in passing...
:: Quite right, shes made the leap. Nardhole 01:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Departure from rock 

message: Can someone please explain the entry under "Trivia":
  Stefani claims to be a "female shooter."
Forgive me if I'm dense, but since I have no idea what that means, I would think it should get clarified or removed from an encyclopedia entry.
:I looked into and found that it was added by a user that has been blocked for vandalism, so given that it makes no sense, I just deleted it. Why no one caught it before is odd. --Bacteria 11:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under "Trivia" 

message: "Can I have It Like That", "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" and "Southside"
Is there reason why these singles are constantly removed? They feature Gwen, and should be included in her discography. Celebrity-Benji 01:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Can I have It Like That" and other singles 

message: To whoever keeps adding UNVERIFIED, UNRELEASED singles to her chart, please stop.  Nothing has been verified AT ALL.  Do not add stuff to the chart unless there is VERIFICATION that she will be releasing the single to radio/TV/whatever (with a link from a credible source).  Thanks Vikramsidhu 03:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stefani's singles chart

message: "Gwen Stefani and the singer P!nk are not the same people."
This was recently added to trivia but then removed. Does this deserve to be in the article? Beacuse for a long time I thought it was P!nk singing No Doubt's 'Hey Baby'! And more recently there's a scene in P!nk's video for "U+UR Hand" (I can't remember the exact title) where she looks very similar to Gwen. But maybe this is just a mistake I've made? Or has this happened to a significant amount of people? -Anthony- 23:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, obviously. They have different voices? Nardhole 01:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:   What??  how can you even think they have the same voice? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michael.jarrell (talk • contribs) 23:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Contrary to popular belief..." 

message: The vandalism would appear to be originating on a GameFAQs message board (Current Events). Just in case this information is relevant... -PhilShady 00:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anonymous editing has been disabled for a period of time. Velten 02:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: It seems like listing the stops for The Sweet Escape Tour on this page will clutter the page.  Would it be better to create a separate page for the tour, or should the list not exist at all under WP:NOT#IINFO?  —ShadowHalo 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A separate page is appropriate for the concert dates; see Harajuku Lovers Tour 2005 for an example of a concert tour article. Velten 02:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The Sweet Escape Tour article exists.   Wasted Time R 12:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome, thanks for doing that; I completely forgot.  Unless someone else is already working on it, I'm going to format the appearances in a table like the one on the Oral Fixation Tour article.  —ShadowHalo 00:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it.  Wasted Time R 01:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sweet Escape Tour

message: Please spell things correctly on articles for example...
The release of Stefani's first solo album brought attention to her entourage of four Harajuku Girls. Named Love, Angel, Music, and Baby by Stefani, the Harajuku Girls are named for the area around the Harajuku Station of Tokyo, Japan, known as a popular shopping destination and fashion center for teenagers this should be spelt centre. Americans claim to speak English but cant spell properly it is 're' not 'er'.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.189.122.75 (talk) 15:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In American English, it is spelled "center".  Stefani was born in the United States and still resides in the U.S.  As such, American English should be used for the article, not British.  —ShadowHalo 06:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling correction

message: Shouldn't it also have the UK singles chart as well? I have found them but the page is protected so I can't change it.
:No it doesn't. She has not had a UK number-one. Velten 14:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: UK singles?

message: She should be on the Category:Vanity Fair's International Best Dressed List for 2006. You can find the category linked from the International Best Dressed List article, among others.
--Ashley Rovira 12:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Category 

message: Please add an interwiki link to the Hebrew value: he:גוון סטפאני. 84.94.170.9 22:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  ShadowHalo 00:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  interwiki to a protected page 

message: U-hum. --81.62.5.37 15:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article ist sprotected? 

message: I think its' worthwhile to include some personal quotes from Gwen, she's said some pretty shocking things about her weight and her opinions on weight loss 66.41.66.213 04:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you remember any or, better yet, do you know any articles where she's made these statements?  ShadowHalo 05:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gwen Stefani says... 

message: Isn't her first name 'Gwendolyn'?????? JakeTheBlake 19:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not without a reliable source that says so, and so far none have been found.  ShadowHalo 19:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First Name

message: Gwen was the cover of this month's US and UK editions of the women's glossy Elle (She probably appeared on the korean one etc., but those are the copies I have). She posed in a variety of designers outfits and she stated that she's 'like a man' when it comes to working out, preferring lifting weights and average gym stuff to things like yoga and pilates. It revealed that she is a US size 6, or a UK 10. There was more than that, comments about motherhood and the like, but I haven't got the magazine on me so I'm not sure of the exact quotations. I think appearing on the cover of Elle (elle Girl too, actually) should be included in the article. Nukleoptra 20:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is available here.  I don't see why it needs to be mentioned every time she appears in a magazine though, since the article really doesn't have any effect on her career.  ShadowHalo 01:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Elle

message: "Don't Speak" wasn't wrote by Gwen, it was in fact Eric Stefani who wrote it. Most people think Gwen wrote it but it says on the album sleeve of "No Doubt: The Singles" that it was Eric.
:Both of them are credited as the writers in the liner notes of both Tragic Kingdom and The Singles: 1992–2003.  Take a look at the parenthetical note that says "(E. Stefani, G. Stefani)".  ShadowHalo 18:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't Speak

message: I was about to add the No Doubt nominations on the list but I decided to leave it since the article is about Stefani herself. But what's wrong with highlighting the row where an award was won? It's done in the Christina Aguilera page which is rated as a good article. Spellcast 10:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Highlighting the rows is distracting, but more importantly, it's POV.  Also note that the table wasn't there when Christina Aguilera was promoted to GA.   ShadowHalo 20:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah you're right. In that case, I'll tidy up the awards I added to the Pharrell Williams and List of The Neptunes awards page. Spellcast 23:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In response to this question, yes, bolding the "Won" is also POV.  My apologies, I missed that.  This is for essentially the same reasons that number one chart positions should not be bolded (see Wikipedia:Record charts).  ShadowHalo 00:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammy award history

message: What's with the redirect to 'Stefani Morgan'? Never heard of her, it's unesseccary. I'm pretty sure people who went on to the Gwen article meant to be there, not some porn star. 80.41.38.77 22:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite.  It's pretty clear that you might be searching for Stefani Morgan using the search term "Stefani" and end up coming here.  I think the best way to handle that would be a disambiguation page though.  ShadowHalo 22:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, well I just searched for Stefani Morgan and it went straight to Stefani Morgan. Searched for Gwen Stefani, went straight to Gwen Stefani.Nukleoptra 19:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: I'd review this were I not a contributor to the page, but I think it's unlikely this article will pass.  The article needs some definite copyediting: "Grammy Wins(with No Doubt)", "Asia and Europe..", "Harajuku Lovers is to have lower prices than L.A.M.B. to say affordable".  It also needs a lot more referencing and citations (including uncited quotations), and there are several short one or two sentence paragraphs.  ShadowHalo 09:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination 

message: Gwen Stefani ranked 12th on the 100 Sexiest Artists,yet it is not mentioned.Artists like Natalie Imbruguela,who has ranked in the 90's,has been mentioned,but her coming 12th is not mentioned.
:There are tons of lists like this.  I don't think each of these lists has much effect on Stefani's notability.  ShadowHalo 09:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Mentioned 

message: I am failing this article for the time being. I agree with ShadowHalo, it needs copyediting. Take this sentence for example: "She was named after a stewardess in the best-selling 1968 novel Airport, which her mother read during her pregnancy; her middle name, Renee, was inspired by the song "Walk Away Renée"." It is pretty sloppy and really should be split up. ALso, the presense on "CItation needed" tags is an autmoatic fail in my mind. Keep trying, and this article will be a GA soon enough. -- Scorpion 16:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: In Hollaback Girl:
 "... The word "shit" is mentioned in the song 38 times ..."
38 TIMES?! This would mean it breaks a Guinness World Record (that record's currently held by
Eamon's "F**k It (I Don't Want You Back)", which only contains 33 expletives! What the hell is going on here?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.180.226.59 (talk) 01:51, April 3, 2007 (UTC)
:The place to discuss this is Talk:Hollaback Girl, not here.  Anyway, I've removed that section which was added a day or two ago.  It uses the word "shit" around three dozen times, but so far no reliable source has been found for the exact number (though I believe it's either 37 or 38).  ShadowHalo 14:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What the heck?  What's that doing in this article anyway?  Oh well, now it's gone from both articles.  ShadowHalo 15:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank god, but I'm still stunned. Even if it is 3 dozen times— it should still be in the Guinness World Records (2005) Book. 124.181.78.193 02:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hollaback Girl

message: This articale surely deserves to be a featured article,It is well cited,well provided with pictures and the information is very much sufficient and in proper language too.I think this article deserves to be a featured article and the person who is responsible for the selection os featured articles should give it a look.I hope this reaches the administator.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luxurious.gaurav (talk • contribs).
:If you believe this article meets the featured article criteria, then you (or anyone else) can nominate it at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates.  I can tell you from experience, however, that it is very unlikely that this article would be featured, especially after its recent failed good article candidacy.  With some more work though, it can probably get up to good article status.  ShadowHalo 16:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deserving