Talk:Art intervention

message: Somebody please fix this, I can't be bothered as doing so would require reading it once more, and reading this sentence feels like being dragged through several lifetimes of torture, bondage and abuse: 'By definition it is a challenge, or at the very least a comment, related to the earlier work or the theme of that work, or to the expectations of a particular audience, and more likely to fulfil that function to its full potential when it is unilateral, although in these instances, it is almost certain that it will be viewed by authorities as unwelcome, if not vandalism, and not art.'  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.222.232 (talk) 11:46, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: God awful sentence

message: In February 2005 Jewish artist, Lennie Lee, was censored for exhibiting a piece called "Judensau"(Jewpig) in Treptow Town Hall gallery, Berlin. The intervention was organised by the other artists working in the show who claimed (incorrectly) Lee was one of them. Lee's work was designed to put the institution in a difficult position. If they left it on the wall they would be accused of anti-semitism by their opponents. On the other hand, if they took the work down, they would be illegally censoring the work of a Jewish artist dealing with anti-semitic stereotypes. Catch 22. The authorities were forced to take the piece down, thereby, breaking German laws governing art censorship in the process. The piece attracted considerable attention from the media. Lee offered to remove his "Judensau" on condition that a 14th century sculpture of a "Judensau" was removed from the side of Martin Luther's church in Wittenburg. Martin Luther, in addition to founding the Lutheran church was a well-known anti-semite. His boo "The Jews and their lies" is thought to have had considerable influence on Nazi ideas including the setting up of the concentration camps.
:see External Links:
:* Uproar in town hall Treptow
:*Censorship
 
86.143.153.212 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lennie Lee, c.2005

message: I think the section on Tracey Emin is worthy of removal:
Firstly, she does not see her action as art. 
Secondly, getting drunk on TV is hardly worthy of mention.
Thirdly, art intervention is not typical of her oeuvre. 
This does not give a good idea of what art intervention is about. The 'K' foundation offering money to the Turner Prize winner Rachel Whiteread is a better example. Mark McGowan's media manipulation is also more typical.
86.143.153.212 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it in because it illustrates the importance of artist definition. If she had stated it was art, then it would have been seen as art. Certainly in the UK it was a significant media event, boosted her career immensely and is still frequently referred to as a milestone, and it is something of a grey area as to whether it is or isn't art, especially as there is the notion that the artist's life is art (particulary in her case). The whole "art intervention" thing can't have an article, unless there is coverage, with examples, of the debate that is integral to it about when something is art, who defines it as such etc. Tyrenius 18:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tracey Emin

message: Christoph Schlingensieff, the Berlin theatre director, is worth a mention also
86.143.153.212 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Christoph Schlingensieff

message: I have removed this about the effect of Luther's ideas on the Nazis: "including the setting up of the concentration camps", unless there is a specific reference, if it is wished to retain it. If the mention is in the cited newspapers, then fine, but I don't read German that well. I'm not sure if it's necessary anyway, but have no objection as long as it's got a verifiable source. Tyrenius 17:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Martin Luther

message: Here are some other examples that could be mentioned in the article:
*Martin Kippenberger's transformation of a monochrome painting by Gerhard Richter into a coffee table 
*Robert Rauschenberg's Erased DeKooning (already cited in respective article) 
74.131.228.71 (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Other examples

message: I think it's better if we merge these two articles: Intervention art with Art intervention. What do you think? lapsking (talk) 13:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. AnotherJansa (talk) 10:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging [[Intervention art]] with Art intervention

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message: "In order to do this she needed clearance letters from […] the City of Westminster, two Boroughs (Chelsea and Kensington, as their boundary bisects the length of the horse)"
Pretty sure this isn't right: Chelsea and Kensington haven't been separate boroughs since the sixties.  From looking at a map, I'm pretty sure the two boroughs in question are the City of Westminster (which is a city and a borough) and Kensington and Chelsea, but that's WP:OR, presumably.  The two boroughs are listed as Kensington and Chelsea in the source,"The Red Tape of Red Tape," arcroyal.co.uk  Retrieved March 22, 2006 and it's the magazine of the Royal College of Art, so seems reliable, though I think the articles are contributed by students.  Not sure what to do with this!  YorkshireLad (talk) 21:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boroughs 

message: I feel like "auspice" is the wrong word in this sentence: "It has the auspice of conceptual art and is commonly a form of performance art." However, I don't know the intended meaning of the sentence. I assume it has nothing to do with divine prophecy. Even replacing it with "under the auspices of" would not make much sense. If someone knows what the author intended, please revise the sentence. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 00:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auspice 

message: New Zealand Intervention artworks:
Mealing, Allen, Thomas, The Double standard, WAG, Drummond, Spill, Hunter, Yuen, Crewdson, Artists Co-op, Sydney Biennale, Wells, One day sculpture, Letting Space, Gap filler, Iti, Performance arcade, rADz, Mahon, Anonymous https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/last-post-first-light/79299545/conscientious-objector-archie-baxter-remembered-in-guerilla-wellington-sculpture,Thomas-Edmond. b'art homme  21:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am keen to start a geographically oriented heading where editors can include other territories.