Talk:Standard Hindi

message: The devanagari script for "hindi" is incorrect. It's too hard for me to describe the error using only the English alphabet. See the BBC languages page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/languages/) for an example of one way to write it correctly (there's at least one other way to write it).
:हिन्दी is correct. हिंदी is the alternate. Both are given. Badagnani (talk) 03:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of "Hindi"

message: Does anyone what the people who speak Hindi are known as? I can't find a single source saying they're an ethnic group so I'm guessing they're not. So what are they? The same applies to the Urdu-speakers (unless they're the Muhajir people?) --Maurice45 (talk) 19:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hindi/Urdu is spoken by a fairly wide range of ethnic groups (Rajputs, Mongols, more indigenous peoples, even Anglo-Indians), since it's spoken over such a huge area (compared to any other Indian language, except English if it counts :-D). So I strongly doubt that there is a word for Hindi- or Urdu-speaking people (other than simply "Hindi-speakers" or "Urdu-speakers" or "Hindi- and/or Urdu-speakers"). --Kuaichik (talk) 23:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hindi-speaking people are no ethnic group. Maquahuitltalk! 06:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

text: The term for a person who speaks Hindi would be हिंदी बोलनेवाला I believe. It doesn't translate to anything useful; "Hindi speaker" would be a translation of the idea. Other than that, there is no other description of a Hindi speaker other than they speak Hindi. --LaRoza
I have a rather ignorant question:  Do educated people in non-Hindi official states come out of school fluent in Hindi (speaking, reading, writing) as well as their mother tongue?  I suppose I'd exclude the South Indian states from this consideration, since their opposition to Hindi dominance seems well known.  I guess I am curious about states like Gujarat, WB, Assam, Punjab - do educated people already know Hindi, or do they choose to pick it up along the way?  My interest was piqued because it seems there are a good number of Bollywood actors who hail from non-Hindi speaking states.  Thanks! 173.215.26.37 (talk) 21:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't know where you would find a reliable source or study on this question sorry. But if you want to trust my personal experience with educated people from these regions, I would say yes for some states and not always for others. For example in Gujurat the cultural backlash against Hindi was very little if at all because they regularly watch Bollywood while their own film industry is weak. Pop culture factors like Bollywood are in fact are a strong motivation for people even from Southern states to learn the language. It has spread the language where the government couldn't on its own. GizzaDiscuss © 23:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Educated people in the non-Hindi states of Punjab and Gujarat come out of school fluent (obviously not to a native extent, but yes, to a very good extent) in Hindi. The reason is that these languages are pretty close to Hindi. For other states like Bengal and Maharashtra, the answer is usually 'no' and if yes then it's an exception based on context, and not the rule. Maquahuitltalk! 17:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindi-speaking people 

message: The very basic definition for Urdu and Hindi should suffuce here as it was was done when a consensus was reached during the conclusion to of the controversy: Urdu is that language which contains Turkish, Farsi and Arabic loan words with sprinkling of Pashtu words here and there, and Hindi is that which contains Sanskritic loan words, even though both are based on the various dialects spoken around Dehli, Agra and their environs. Furthermore, both these languages are written in different scripts i.e. Hindi in Devanagri and Urdu in modified Farsi. The mutual intelligibility is totally due to the two factors - inter-communality and Indian cinema effect. Bombay film industry always recognised the fact that heavilly Sanskitised dialogues in their films would not bring many filmgoers so they resorted to using Hindustani, a less difficult and more colloqual form of Urdu. This is evidenced from the many Urdu writers, actors and lyricists who contributed to the industry. In fact Bombay films and songs were promoted as Hindustani in language. I still have old 75rpm/45rpm records of Indian film songs clearly labelled as Hindustani. Now let's get off the various bandwagons and agree with the conclusions the various language movements came to and not keep on defining and re-defining the two languages. I cannot understand the Mahabharat and not can many native Hindi speakers but I can comprehend Bollywood films and frequently have to translate many 'difficult' Urdu words to my Hindu/Sikh friends (from India)for them but this does not happen the otherway. Interestingly enough proper Hindi words for many everday usage such as air, congratulations, thank you etc. are rarely used. Instead hawa, Diwali mubarak, Shukriya, are the most commonlly enunciated. Even the most basic terms for common things e.g. zara, cheez etc. are derived from Urdu even though quite often they are mispronounced. There are countless examples - nouns, proper nouns, verbs, adverbs and off course adjectives are all there as evedence of the above arument.
So whatever the origins there is no doubt that Urdu gave the Indian native language it's name as well as its's vocabulary in this day and age. Urdu has remained true to it's origin i.e. a Persianised,Turkised and Arabised version of Kharri Boli, whereas Hindi, originally a Sanskritised Kharri Boli has become, in vernacular usage at least, Urduised i.e. Urdu that is spoken and written in Devanagri. This is attested to by the many rightwing Hindu scholars and organisation who would like to rename Hindi as Bharati and go back to the demand and agreement of the days of Urdu-Hindi controversy and 'purify' India and Indian language. (USER talk:Moarrikh) 19:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[ Very Basic Definition ]] 

message: I have removed a number of translation requests from this page as Wikipedia is not a forum, but the user continues to insert them. The purpose of talk pages is to discuss improvements of the article to which the talk page belong. Talk pages are not the place for asking questions about the language or request translations. If someone want to have Hindi translations, contact one of the many Hindi-speaking users here, ask the question in one of the hundreds of translation forums on the Internet or some other option. For Hindi versions of Wikipedia pages, the relevant place to put such a request is the talk page of that page, not this page. Please refrain from posting such requests on the talk page of Hindi.Jeppiz (talk) 04:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Badagnani was already directed to the Language reference desk since this isn't the place for it and that is. I guess I made a mistake in answering here to be helpful before because that gave the idea more requests would be a good idea. - Taxman Talk 13:56, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The purpose of this page

message: Please read what I posted at Talk:Hindi–Urdu controversy#The true origins of Hindi and  Urdu. __meco (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conspiracy allegation over the origin on Hindi and Urdu 

message: We have Hindi languages for Hindi in the broad sense, and Standard Hindi for Hindi in the narrow sense, so this article was mostly a WP:fork of one or the other. I've revised it to concentrate on the different conceptions of the word, with links to the more specific articles. Of course, we could also merge Standard Hindi here and merge this to Hindi languages. Whichever way we go, I think we should come to some consensus as to what the scope of the various articles should be, to avoid forking, arguments over naming, and duplicated effort. — kwami (talk) 18:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope of the article 

message: I see this page was redirected to Hindi page on objections of some Urdu speakers. The Hindi page is neither like Standard Hindi or Modern Standard Hindi. We should use this page only about Standard Hindi.PradeepBoston (talk) 14:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard Hindi 

message: Substituted at 06:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment