Talk:Bonnie and Clyde (film)

message: I think the discussion of the discrepency between the movie and reality (especially talk of the real Bonnie and Clyde as "ruthless killers" and Frank Hamer as "brave and just") should be removed... or moved to the page about the _real_ Bonnie and Clyde. It should be replaced with more attention to the effect this film had on American cinema and its positioning within the American "counter-culture" movement of the 1960's  This is no longer in the article.  Onel5969 (talk) 20:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie and reality

message: i heard this was the first movie  the mpaa gave an R rating should we mention this in the article
:Actually, the movie was given an M rating for it's re-release. At the time, violence and male rear nudity was more acceptable to show to children. Blooshoe 15:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: R rated

message: Would be nice if somebody could expand the cinematic history of the film.
* Indeed. The fact the landmark ambush scene isn't even mentioned is a puzzling omission. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed the biased description of historical figures; made short new "differences" section

message: - this is already mentioned in the "Bonnie and Clyde" (non-monvie) article
- mentioning this in the opening paragraphs of this movie page is as rediculous as going to the Wikipedia pages of every movie that has been parodied by Saturday Night Live, and writing that such was done in the opening paragraphs of the respective movie Wikipedia pages.
- if anything, there should be a "Pop Culture" section that would mention this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.48.117 (talk) 09:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed the line mentioning that this movie was parodied by Mad Magazine

message: Was the fantastic score by gifted young composer Charles Strouse. He understood and musically portrayed the many different aspects of Bonnie and Clyde; from love and tenderness, through joy and excitement to horror, panic, escape - and death. The score was utterly dramatic and in the great tradition of composers like Leonard Rosenman and Bernard Herrmann. While it is fortunate that the silence in many of the scenes in Bonnie and Clyde allowed to contrast against the sounds of gunfire or other loud noises, or give the better (last third) of the film a dreamy, hazy tone, it
is likely that the original score would have taken away some of the hillbilly image - that really didn't have anything to do with the story or with Bonnie and Clyde; it is highly unlikely that the real life Bonnie and especially not Clyde would have thought much of "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" - it would have rendered the movie a musical background that might have done for the film what Leonard Rosenmans music did for "Rebel Without A Cause" or "East of Eden". Simply a great achivement. It should be noted that Strouse did an alternative version of "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" that is much more suitable than the one used in the film; it is powerful, suggests drama and eroticism as well as violence. And would have suited the notion one critic had: "(the film)leaves us with a tragic awareness of the terrible things people do to each other". 
--Hans G Brüggener
:Hans G Brüggener, be advised that this terrific soundtrack has recently (finally!) been released on CD on the Collector's Choice Music label. And indeed, its alternative version of "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" is much more suitable than the one in the film -- powerful, dramatic and erotic, yessir. --HarringtonSmith (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: PS; Thank you, HarringtonSmith. I was fortunate to get the soundtrack album on LP back in 1974, and analyzed it from a dramatical/musical
viewpoint. I have the CD too, and even though I am happy it has been released, I miss the full, rich sound of the original LP.
Neverless, this is music to remember. Thanks for posting!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans Brüggener (talk • contribs) 20:36, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Hans Brüggener

message: I removed the following verboten trivia section from the article. I'm posting it here in case someone can justify keeping the last two items (the first two are extremely trivial and should be deleted altogether). Kinkyturnip (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia section removed

message: Seriously? No mention of the remake under development right now? Honestly? Confirmed and reported by multiple news sources and commented on publicly by both Faye Dunaway AND Warren Beatty? Okay... uh... sure then... okay...
Miketanton (talk) 14:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If the remake is so important to you, Miketanton, why not open a new article about it? --HarringtonSmith (talk) 07:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the remake does not seem to have been made, is this relevant any more?  The 2013 A&E mini-series does not appear to be a remake, but simply a retelling of the historical figure.  Onel5969 (talk) 18:05, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Uh... REMAKE ANYONE

message: I removed reference to the performer "Soulja Boy Tellem'" in the article.  It was some rambling post about how said performer likes to make reference to Bonnie & Clyde in his songs, but that he isn't really like the real Clyde Barrow.  I didn't think this had any reason to be in an article about the film, since "Soulja Boy Tellem'" is obviously not an actor or performer in this film, and his mention of Bonnie & Clyde in his works is irrelvent with regards to this film.  76.178.134.37 (talk) 14:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed reference to performer "Soulja Boy Tellem'"

message: We're all being too polite -- this section really needs a ground-up rewrite!--HarringtonSmith (talk) 13:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary section

message: Editor King Cobb persists in adding a note in this section that the C.W. Moss character is based on W.D. Jones and Henry Methvin in real life. The "Cast" section is not about the creation and development of the roles, it is about who is cast in those roles. If we discuss the background of each character, then we should also include "Ivan Moss based on Ivy Methvin," "Eugene Grizzard based on H. Dillard Darby" and "Velma Davis based on Sophie Stone." For that matter, the Barrows and Hamer of the film are only based on their historical counterparts; perhaps they should be disclaimed, too. The better place for discussing the Jones/Methvin/Moss character's development (not casting) is in the "Historical Inaccuracies" section -- where it already is discussed.
I seek consensus here that this note should stay removed from the "Cast" section. --HarringtonSmith (talk) 16:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition to Cast section

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— P. S. Burton  (talk) 22:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion of sources to be incorporated 

message: I read a quote somewhere, I *think* by Clyde's brother (was there more than one?), that Clyde wasn't impotent, and if so that ought to be treated in the "Historical Accuracy" section of the article. Note that in the "Production" section they describe impotence/bisexuality as if it were more of a contrivance added by the writers.
Added a discussion of this topic in the Historical Accuracy section.  Onel5969 (talk) 18:03, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Impotence theme, historical accuracy of

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