Talk:STOL

message: Does anyone have a photo of the STOL that they can contribute? WikiDon 16:46, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo of STOL

message: A discussion about the future of the aircraft list in this article is going on at WikiProject Aircraft. Any editors watching this article are welcome to join in. - Ahunt (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A consensus has been reached to eliminate this list and replace it with a link to :Category:STOL instead, as discussed at WikiProject Aircraft - Ahunt (talk) 14:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Thant's because many of the aricraft aren't actually SYOL aircraft, such as the C-130. - BilCat (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

text: You are going over old ground here. We already had this discussion as a result of far too many fanboys adding dozens of non-STOL defined aircraft to the list and the consensus was to refer to the category instead, so that each aircraft article editor can fight it out whether the individual article should be in that cat. If you can take-off and land a C-130 over a 50 foot obstacle at max gross without JATO then you are the best C-130 pilot I know. However your claim does illustrate the problems we had with the list before, we had people adding B-737 as STOL, plus if you read the discussion above you will see that just about every light aircraft fits the definition, rendering any list of STOL aircraft pretty much worthless. - Ahunt (talk) 19:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately, personal knowledge is considered Original Research. WP can only use verifiable information published in reliable sources. That's why we have to default to the manufacturer's specs as published in reliable sources, such as Jane's. - BilCat (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And that is a particularly good example of why lists like this are a problem, because fanboys try to submit Original Research: "I can land my 747 in 1500 ft, even though the company test pilots say it is impossible, therefore it should be on this list." Totally non-encyclopedic - that sort of thing is blog material only. - Ahunt (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Aircraft List

message: User:WikiFlier removed three definitions (Aeronautical dictionary, Transport Canada/Arizona DOT and Columbia) with the edit summary "Deleted excess definitions". I have restored these. I fail to see how you can arbitrarily remove three well-referenced definitions. If it has no other effect, the deletion makes the article more US-centric. One of the main points of this article is that there is no single accepted definition of STOL - the multiplicity of definitions proves this point. If you want to remove definitions please discuss here and gain consensus first. - Ahunt (talk) 14:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur. - BilCat (talk) 15:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Disagree. Do we really need seven definitions that pretty much say the same thing? Karanne (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the point is that they are all substantially different. - Ahunt (talk) 13:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed definitions

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replies: text: - Ahunt (talk) 00:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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message: Is it "a STOL" or "an EsTeeOhEll"? This is not an idle question, a wikipedian (and anyone) must know the proper article a/an. - Altenmann >talk 22:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hiow to pronounce