Talk:Lists of political office-holders in Transylvania

message: In Wikipedia we put the actual rulers, not the rulers which some consider to be the "rightful" rulers. Mihai Viteazul effectively ruled Transylvania and Romania effectively administered Transylvania since 1918. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 16:39, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: the list starts with some fictional figures from the gesta hungarorum from Anonymus. this work is from the late 12 th century. sources from the 10-11 century could clarify this better. Transsylvania was under the rule of the second leader of the hungarian tribes. the last one was called Gyula who was the father or brother of king stephen's mother Sarolt. the ruler of the banat area was called Ajtony and he was not bulgarian. 
Not Gyula ,but Iuliu  or Geula  . And Transilvania was not under the rule of hunagrian tribes but valachians. the hungarian tribes were based in the Panonian planes at that time.check your history books before writing .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.52.225.123 (talk) 15:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Concerning Michael the Brave: read the discussion above. Transylvanian nobles elected him as prince and the estates swore fealty the next day. Further more he was imidiatly recognized as such by the Otoman overlord and later (or rather too late) by the Hapsburgs. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 07:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  early princes 

message: I find the following But the proclamation of Transylvania as a Grand Principality was a mere formality[1] [2], and Transylvania became again the part of the Kingdom of Hungary at the end of the 17th century [3] [4] extremely dubious. First of all the statement lacks a logical chronology. Transylvania was proclaimed a Grand Principality in the second half of the 18th century how is that consistent with it supposedly becoming once again part of the Kingdom of Hungary at the end of the 17th century? Moreover, Transylvania's legislative assembly the Diet continued to exist and governors continued to rule in the emperor's name as they had before. Finally none of the sources provided as reference qualifies as reliable under Wikipedia policies and I will remove the statement unless it is reworded and stronger references are added. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 07:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious phrase 

message: Checked it myself- it is OK207.63.134.98 (talk) 21:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the same hoax that 47+ socks have tried to put on Wikipedia for the last 2 years? Edward321 (talk) 05:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material checks out 

message: There have been some controversial edits recently on this topic. My advice is to keep it short in this article: the controversy is presented in detail in the Gelou article. Someone has suggested removing him altogether: there is no reason in doing so, even if he is fictional. The List of High Kings of Ireland goes back to the House of the Hundred Battles, the List of Emperors of Japan goes all the way back to Jimmu grandson of the Sun Goddess. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 14:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Some compromise has to be reached between the editors and this article should not be subject to edit-waring. All views should be presented in detail in the Gelou article. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 18:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gelou

message: *For the years between 1003 and 1038 the Hungarians monarch (Stephen I) is listed, for the period from around 1110 to 1556 the monarchs' deputies (the voivodes) are shown, and there is again a change in the period between 1690 and 1867 when the monarchs' are listed but a reference is also made to their deputies (the governors). Who should be listed - the monarchs or their deputies or both??
*Were the voivodes rulers of Transylvania? The Székely Land, the Saxon districts and the towns were free of their authority, therefore they only administered parts of the province. Should we list the bans of Oltenia among the rulers of Wallachia, because the former administered a significant part of the Romanian principality?
*Is there any reliable source throwing Gelou, St Stephen, Ladislaus Kán and Franz Joseph together?
Borsoka (talk) 20:08, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the logic? And what are the sources?