Talk:Hunger strike

message: #It looks like much of the information that might want to live on this page is already at fasting. Should we make this a redirect there and then clean up fasting so it's all nice and pretty? --Dante Alighieri 08:55 25 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I dont agree with that Dante, fasting is different than Hunger strike, a hunger strike is "protest" oriented and has more political and moral meaning attached to it. while fasting can be seen as purely religious. OR evm Hunger Strike can be categorized as a special type of fasting where in a protest comes into picture. Hunger Strike should definitely be separate from fasting, so I think. --Girish 19:10, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
Fair enough. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 22:32, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
:I agree, but please note that fasting is not always "purely religious", it can also be done as part of a cleanse or detox for health reasons.  38.109.88.196 (talk) 06:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Older comments

message: I added these things, which I found in David Beresford's "Ten Men Dead." They give an early, brief history of the practice. I added citations to the book I got it from; I mainly paraphrased what was said in that book. 
--L.A.F. 08:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Early History

message: Why Akbar Ganji's section removed without any discussions?--Sina 22:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Akbar Ganji]]

message: I have rewritten the history of hunger strikes in Turkey, since the existant information was very superficial, hence leading inaccuracies. I can't claim my edit is perfectly correct, since I have mostly relied on my memory and quick internet search, but I hope it will initiate an effort to create a correct section. I tried to be objective, but I am generally biased by my left-wing/liberal  POV, so I will appreciate neutralization as well. However, please no Turkish nationalist, extreme leftist, Kurdish separatist, or European anti-Turkish propaganda. Thank you. AldirmaGonul 05:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Prisoners in Turkey 

message: It seems like this page focuses more on who has done a hunger strike then the mechanics of how a hunger strike works. I'm interested in knowing if any eating is allowed (such as the Ramadan fast), or if any sustenance (ie juice and vitamins) is allowed, or the details of what it entails. Neither this page, nor the fasting page hold this information. -- garlic : November 21, 2005
:Last summer's hunger strikers in Guantanamo generally started skipping a single meal one week, then skipping two meals the next week, and finally all meals the third week.  The camp authorities didn't count anyone unless they had skipped all their meals for three consecutive days.  During the first hunger strike the number of hunger striker who camp authorities felt required hospitalization overwhelmed the camp hospital, and some of the detainees had to be transferred to the base's main hospital.
:FWIW the camp authorities and the detainees give wildly varying accounts of how the feeding tubes are inserted into the detainees.  The camp authorities say they are always inserted by trained medical personnel, who insert them as humanely as possible.  Detainees have reported at least one doctor inserting the tubes brutally, wiggling the tube brutally, once it was installed, until the detainee started to vomit up blood.  Detainees have described the hated IRF inserting the tubes.  They have described the IRF removing tubes by holding the detainees hair in one hand, and the end of the tube in another, and then yanking the tube out by making a big scissors motion.  Detainees describe the use of tubes the width of a finger, which are extremely painful.  They describe guards removing tubes from detainees, then cramming the same tube down another detainees nose, while it was still covered in the blood and vomit of the earlier detainees.  --  Geo Swan 21:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is a hunger strike 

message: My 1995 Swedish edition of the Guinness Book of Records says:
:The world record in hunger strike (without forced feeding) is 95 days, which was set from August 11 to November 12, 1920 by John and Peter Crowley, Thomas Donovan, Michael Burke, Michael O'Reilly, Christopher Upton, John Power, Joseph Kenny and Seán Hennessy at the prison of Cork, Ireland.
The article on Terence MacSwiney says:
:On October 20, 1920, he fell into a coma and died five days later after 78 days on hunger strike, making his the longest hunger strike in Irish history.
The article on David Blaine says (on why he would not be included in future editions of the Book of Records):
:[The Guinness Book of Records] said it did not wish to encourage fasting records and that in any case the IRA hunger strikers Bobby Sands (who died after 66 days without food) and Laurence McKeown (who went into a coma after 70 days and was then force-fed) had already lasted longer unfed than Blaine did.
Does anybody have any clarity on who of these actually went the longest without food and what the criteria really are? —Gabbe 07:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, they did go off the hunger strike all on the one day after the President of the Irish Republic (as declared by the Provisional government) Arthur Griffith appealed to them.  Amazingly the nine men survived though all suffered health problems for the rest of their lives. Coolavokig (talk) 13:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual record? 

message: The three-day glucose store (uncited) information here conflicts with the Physiological effects section of Fasting (also uncited).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.194.187.135 (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical Effects 

message: hightlight the hypocrisy of the West supporting the Green Revolution in Iran in 2009 but not supporting people who fled from the torture in Iranian prisons afterwards.
Ignoring the misspelling of highlight, this line seems very biased in favour of the protesters. Wikipedia is meant to take a neutral standpoint, so this must be changed. Kookas (talk) 12:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted (along with NPOV / recent templates), it is too recent and needs to have broader coverage and impact to be notable enough. - RoyBoy 03:39, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored the tags, as I don't see any effort to address the concerns. --Ronz (talk) 03:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias? 

message: Editors have disagreed about including a recent entry to the article, then discussion developed to question other entries' notability and the inclusion criteria. Should we put all entries of historical and recent hunger strikes in a standalone list with the inclusion criteria being: Inclusion in this list is based solely on coverage in multiple reliable sources with no strong geographic ties to the place of events that a person or group of people underwent a hunger strike? Mohamed CJ (talk) 18:48, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is simply a proposal to go back to the prior (default) inclusion criteria. Given that the old criteria did not address the NPOV, NOTNEWS, SOAP, RECENTISM, and COATRACK problems, I cannot see how reinstating it would do anything to improve Wikipedia in any way. --Ronz (talk) 17:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Does the criteria need to address those issues or are those applied regardless? There was no list for hunger strikes and entries can be improved to remove NPOV and other problems. Removing entries you find not notable, while ignoring non-sourced and possible POV entries (freedom fighter?) isn't the solution. Mohamed CJ (talk) 17:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So the only problem that this addresses is the concern that a single entry was removed unfairly? --Ronz (talk) 18:24, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this address the whole entries in the article including those removed without consensus. But if you're asking where this started, then yes it started when an entry I added was removed (as it says in the RfC opening line). It won't be solved by simply re-inserting that single entry you refer to, not in the long term at least. If you oppose, simply put it down and include the reasons you think support your argument. Mohamed CJ (talk) 19:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant by the question in my first reply is that those policies (and essays) you cited apply automatically without the need for them to be addressed in the inclusion criteria. For example: we won't allow a POV entry just because it was widely covered in reliable sources, instead we will make sure the entry is NPOV. Mohamed CJ (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So you agree, falling back to the default criteria would once again open the list to the problems we regularly have? --Ronz (talk) 16:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All articles are open to these problems, but you don't see us just deleting sections. I have looked at your comments in another article and I find it hypocrite that you have opposed their inclusion criteria due to being WP:OR (among other reasons), while supporting an WP:OR criteria here. Mohamed CJ (talk) 17:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on inclusion criteria and/or creating a separate list

message: Once again, this article should not go into great detail on the matter, and it's not clear if it should be listed at all. See the previous discussion on this.
:agreed. Soosim (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now we're not even sure it's important enough to list at all. Even if that were resolved, there's absolutely no reason to include anything in this article beyond a short summary. --Ronz (talk) 16:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Yeah, very objective. --Jethro B 17:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: fyi - amnesty receives gov't funding:  AI did receive grants from the UK Department for International Development,[a) http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/FIN40/007/2011/en/bda6d734-96ed-4474-a0a2-fae044f8caa1/fin400072011en.pdf Amnesty International Charity Limited Report and financial statements for the year ended 31 March 2011, Page 8, Paragraph 10] the European Commission,Amnesty International Limited and Amnesty International Charity Limited Report and financial statements for the year ended 31 March 2007, Page 45, Note 17 the United States State DepartmentReport of Government Foreign Funding, in Hebrew, 2009Report of Government Foreign Funding, in Hebrew, 2008 and other governmentsAmnesty International 2010 Report,Page 10, Indicator 8[http://www.ingoaccountabilitycharter.org/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2009-INGO-Accountability-Charter-External-Report-AI.pdf Amnesty International – INGO Accountability Charter Global Compliance Report 2009, 
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The fact that Jethro B doesn´t consider Amnesty International as objective is the proof that the motive of his intervention is not to the improvement of wikipedia articles, but to promote his personal political views. Amnesty International is a pioneer human rights organization. And by far, the biggest one.
Amnesty International on palestinian hungerstrikers in recent months:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/israel-must-hospitalize-or-release-palestinian-hunger-striker-verge-death--0
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/047/2012/en/c4417158-179c-406b-9276-088d3b69052a/mde150472012en.html
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/palestinian-hunger-strikers-detained-israel-must-be-treated-humanely-2012-08-09 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/israel-s-release-palestinian-footballer-shows-need-end-unjust-detention-wit 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/palestinian-hunger-striker-verge-death-must-be-admitted-hospital-or-release 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/028/2012/en/0bb12dc5-5962-4754-a5ad-ac6374edc7e4/mde150282012en.html 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/palestinian-prisoner-deal-provides-relief-accountability-violations-needed-2012-05-16 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israel-free-palestinian-detainee-prisoners-launch-mass-hunger-strike-2012-04-17 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/palestinian-detainee-gaza-deportation-must-be-released-2012-03-30 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israel-must-release-or-try-palestinian-detainee-hunger-strike-2012-03-23 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israeli-decision-release-palestinian-detainee-april-insufficient-2012-02-21  
http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action-Israel-End-use-of-administrative-detention 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israel-must-release-or-charge-palestinian-detainee-prolonged-hunger-strike-2012-02-06 
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/israel-hamas-prisoner-swap-casts-harsh-light-detention-practices-all-sides-2011-10-
Actually the only person I see pushing a view is you my friend, Jethro is trying to use what we call WP:CONSENSUS which is the way we add things here. Sadly you've violated the WP:1RR and have repeatedly put in copyrighted violations. Please take a step back, review WP:AGF or this could be a really short visit here. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Actually, this is about creating an encyclopedia that does not push an agenda or stray from the general format of the article.  For example, it's a fact that (just imagine for a moment) my skin color is blue, I have three eyes, and I work on Mars, but that doesn't mean I can bloat Wikipedia with it. --Jethro B 20:52, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: They say that humor can accentuate a situation. --Jethro B 21:08, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because they are hunger striking does not make them notable. The issues are that you are inserting copyrighted info straight copy and pasting, not writing from a nuetral point of view and from the outside it looks like activism. I have absolutely no wish to cover anything up or erase any facts but they way it's being done is the issue not the information. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 21:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as it concerns who´s notable and who´s not I would answer that this is not something objective. Of course there can be criteria about that. And I put certain OBJECTIVE criteria such as 
* Number of hungerstrikers participationg in a collective hungerstrike
* Length of a hungerstrike
* Achivements of the hungerstrike
* Interest from the most prominent independent human rights NGO in the world
Of course there can be other criteria, such as e.g. if a hungerstriker has died - which is not the case for Palestinian prisoners. But the fact that a hungerstriker didn't die, and instead won his demands or even his freedom, cannot be a reason to underrate the importance of a hungerstrike.
As far as it concerns the real reason that my contributions were deleted... If someone is interested in the way the facts are written, he/she can change a part of the article. Not delete the entire part, omiting serious facts. Of course deleting something is easier than change it, because the latter needs more time and references to proove the accuracy of the text.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamish2011 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Ok, do you understand that you are editing articles that are under editing restrictions? Let's assume you don't, on any of these articles or for any on wikipedia they have to conform to a nuetral point of view. You have to, it is mandatory to work with other editors to get a consensus on what is included. the facts that you consider notable personally may not be acceptable to the site here at wikipedia. Please take time to read WP:NPOV and WP:MOS these will help you work with the community and have less resistance. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 21:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand very well the editing restrictions. But I would be greateful (dead) if instead of deleting my entire contributions, someone first point out which part is exactly violating the copyright. Then I could agree that it should be deleted or I could try to re-writing in other words. Also before launch accusations of text written not in "a neutral point of view", it would be better if someone would point out which sentence exactly is now written in a neutral point of view. Not to mention that there are no neutral points of view, only FACTS with references from sources. If someone has a reference that contest the accuracy of what was written, why he/she didn't insert it, instead of deleting the reference of someone else. I repeat that it's easier to delete something than to contest it with a reference to some other source. Finally I think it's pure hypocrisy to consistenly delete parts referring to Palestinians with references to palestinian sources in order to respect their ... copyright.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamish2011 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Jethro B, I don't have any particular objection to include Walid Khaled - of course in another section about Palestinian prisoners in palestinian jails. But I suppose other people might have objections because Walid Khaled's hungerstrike (which I fully support) are not part of serie of hungerstrikes or a mass hungerstrike, and for the moment it's length is less than the length of dozens of Palestinian hungerstrikers in Israeli jails. As far as it concern the number of hunger strikers, in no way I didn't mention the names of 2000 Palestinian prisoners. I only mentioned the few INDIVIDUAL cases which held a hungerstrike, with a considerable LENGTH. That means if there is an article about Khader Adnan, Hana Shalabi, or Mahmoud Sarsak, it would be unfair not to mention other Palestinian prisoners, participating in the same serie of hungerstrikes, who held longer hungerstrikes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamish2011 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: By the way, most of the INDIVIDUAL cases of Palestinian hungerstrikers in 2012, has to do with ADMINISTRATIVE DETAINEES, which means they are held without charge or trial. And that´s the reason Amnesty International supports them. AI doesnot support any hungerstriker, whatsoever. Therefore allegations by Jethro B, that were militants, are simply not true. If they were militants they would have been accused by Israel and of course there wouldn´t have been released. --Hamish2011 (talk) 22:38, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Adnan only held a rally for Islamic Jihad that one time where he advocated destroying Israel. --Jethro B 22:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: (Apart from the fact that a rally or advocationg for something doesnot necessarily mean that someone is amilitant) Then why he wasn't accused of that? Amnesty International was crystal clear at their message to Israeli authorities: either accuse him with an internationally recognised crime --Hamish2011 (talk) 22:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Hamish your  Samer Al Barq sections were a word for word copy from [] and your other sources was so closely paraphrased it was not acceptable. Remember that you have to write in your own words. The other parts of the issue is how you are actually writing the articles themselves, bolding unnec and drawing a conclusion as to the validity of their detentions. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 22:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hell in a bucket, I didn´t contest here the Samer Al Barq section. This is not true. I, MYSELF, changed my whole section about Palestinian hungerstrikers in the Hunger Strike article. I put a much smaller part, without of course this section about Samer Al Barq that you mention now. The paragraph about how all began (with Saadat) and the paragraph only mentioning the INDIVIDUAL hungerstrikers and the length of their hungerstrikes, by no means violates any kind of copyright.--Hamish2011 (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually let me clarify, I myself am talking about the whole editing pattern. I've actually seen your edits on a few pages when I started researching your edits. Now what I am trying to impress on you and it's worked for a minute the changes for a article like this one start here on a talk page and there is agreement as to why it should be added. Now in this case the consensus, which can change over time is that a list is not nec. Now writing seperate articles with notability if they are notable themselves and they don't fail WP:ONEEVENT. Now I would suggest writing them as a seperate article and doing it in your sandbox. I'm more then happy to come in and look at it when you think it's ready for main space and make suggestions. I've made quite a few article myself and I wouldn't mind lending a hand but the additions here aren't really working. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 22:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Since you are kind enough to spend all this time for me, and since you are an experienced editor, would you, please, respond to my question about these concrete paragraphs and if there is a problem with them to be included in a wikipedia article?:Ιn September 2011 Ahmad Sa'adat, Secretary General of PFLP and other members of PFLP, (hundreds according to an Amnesty International report ) imprisoned in Israeli jails, begun a hungerstrike,to protest against worsening Israeli prison policies and solitary confinement. The hungerstrike was overshadowed by the deal agreed between Hamas and Israel for the release of over 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for captured soldier Gilad Shalit. The prisoners' swap deal left out Ahmad Saadat. Saadat and the other PFLP prisoners ended their hungerstrike on 17th of October 2011, the 21st day, after Israeli prison authorities agreed to end the practice of solitary confinement.  A promise that was not kept. The 2012 hunger strikes began with Khader Adnan, who launched his hunger strike on December 18, 2011, in protest against ill-treatment he suffered at the hands of the Israeli Prison Service (IPS) upon his arrest and against being held without charge or trial in administrative detention. He ended his hunger strike on its 66th day on 21 February, when an agreement was made with Israeli authorities that he would be released on 17 April and his administrative detention order would not be renewed. At the time, he was the longest Palestinian hunger striker in history.Many other prisoners followed including Hana Shalabi (43 days of hunger strike), Bilal Diab and Thaer Halahleh (77 days of hungerstrike), Omar Abu Shalal (70 days of hunger strike), Mohammad Taj (60 days of hunger strike), Mahmoud Sarsak (92 days of hunger strike) , Akram Rikhawi (102 days of hunger strike), Hassan Safadi (71 days of nunger strike and another 93 days of renewed hungerstrike), Samer Al Barq (30 days of hunger strike and another 123 or 125 days of renewed hungerstrike), Ayman Sharawna (ongoing), Samir Issawi (ongoing).--Hamish2011 (talk) 23:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Hamish, you write about the hunger strike "which I fully support." This raises questions whether you have a relation to the subject or are using a personal bias rather than neutrality. --Jethro B 22:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote that I fully support the hungerstriker YOU mentioned, citing YOUR source, responding at YOUR question about whether I would object him being included. And of course I fully support the release of journalists from any prison in the world (if of course they are arbitrarily detained). Is there something wrong with that? It' rather funny to accuse somebody about bias, when you don't even accept Amnesty International...--Hamish2011 (talk) 22:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't recall saying that. Please see WP:AGF. --Jethro B 22:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Did you or did you not write "Yeah, very objective. --Jethro B 17:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course. --Jethro B 23:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So you think Amnesty International is biased, right? --Hamish2011 (talk) 23:23, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking that there's been a miscommunication there. Amnesty international is a notable organization however they are not always considered notable or reliable sourcing for articles. Try focusing on news papers, thingslike that. I understand they may not be a whole lot out there you can't entirely base their notability off of one organization, it's like using PETA news releases to state animal facts. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 23:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why you thing they are not reliable sourcing for articles??? Actually I think AI is much more reliable than any media. They are a very serious organisation. They are very careful of what they wright. As far as it concerns notability, when the most important human rights organization in the world has put such an effort on these people, issuing all those reports and urgent actions in a few months period, I think, that is a rather objective indicator that they are notable cases. --Hamish2011 (talk) 23:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "They are very careful of what they wright" - I certainly hope they're more careful! --Jethro B 23:33, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

text: By the way, my nickname is Hamish, not Hisham... So I am not the only one making mistakes around here... But since you mention the criticism of AI from the Israeli point of view, which confirms my impression that you do not accept AI as an independent organisation, then, have a look at the criticism of AI from the Palestinian point of view: http://speakingtruthtoamnesty.blogspot.gr/search/label/Palestine No matter if someone agrees with all that, the fact that AI is criticised by both sides, seems to me that is rather independent...--Hamish2011 (talk) 23:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said I don't accept them, I think they do good work, but we also need to realize there is criticism and we need to use them as references appropriately.  Thank you for enlightening me that there is also criticism from the Palestinian side as well. --Jethro B 00:16, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Let's at least try and help out since this is a new editor, I'm sure he is trying to learn and when you first start to wiki it's a transition. I'm going to bow out of this paticular talkpage conversation as I have stated the issues I saw. Hamish I'm certainly happy to help you with articles or sources if you need it. Go to my talk page and drop me a line and happy editing. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 23:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Palestinian hunger strikers

message: I don't see how either of these even begin to meet our inclusion criteria. The apparent extent of the impact that these strikes have made is that they've been reported in the news and created discussion. --Ronz (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Hober Saber and Nasrin Sotoudeh

message: I've reverted a number of changes that highlighted those that died due to their hunger strike (as well as adding new entries that dont appear to meet our inclusion criteria). The editor didn't bother to note all the entries that included deaths, and I'm not sure how we could given some of the entries are about group hunger strikes where some but not all died as a result. --Ronz (talk) 17:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Should we highlight those who died due to their hunger strike?

message: I removed the section. It had no sources, and I couldn't find mention of the topic in other articles. --Ronz (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Political prisoners in Turkey

message: List of hunger strikes has been created and is coming along well. Given the RfC, I think the next step is to remove the "Recent instances..." section and change the inclusion criteria to very notable, historical instances only that can be sourced as such. --Ronz (talk) 02:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and removed it. --Ronz (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Time to remove "Recent instances (since 2000)" section?

message: The section addresses the early Irish tradition first, but it is pre-dated by the Indian practice. Should probably be reorganized if someone can find some good sources. http://www.mesacc.edu/~thoqh49081/celtic/Toscad.html might be a start. --Ronz (talk) 04:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Early history

message: I've seen a number of articles claiming a man named Samer Issawi is currently engaged in a hunger strike that has lasted over 150 days. Does anyone have any *verified* information about him, and can attest to the allegation that he is still alive, and not eating? It seems rather astounding and doubtful that he has gone without food (eg only water, tea, vitamins) for so long and still be alive. If this case is real then I think he should be added to the list. Here's some sources I've found but I'm not sure how accurate/unbiased they are since they're only coming from the pro-Issawi side of things.
Samer speaks from jail International Solidarity Movement Middle East Monitor.Coinmanj (talk) 00:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not much written about him yet. If he's not notable for his own article, he still might be mentioned at Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel#Hunger_strikes. --Ronz (talk) 21:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Samer Tariq Issawi exists, and he's listed in List of hunger strikes. He's not mentioned elsewhere. He doesn't meet the inclusion criteria for this article. --Ronz (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samer Issawi 

message: Given the large amount of discussion to wade through, most of it before List of hunger strikes was created, I thought it would be useful to repeat the inclusion criteria:
We're only listing historically significant hunger strikes in this article that have created impacts beyond their the expected publicity. --Ronz (talk) 16:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion criteria for Notable historical instances

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: To this day I still don't understand what the "leverage" or tactical benefit is of a hunger strike. Would be good if article could explain how self-starving is supposed to wield any kind of power over captors. Thank you
:I think it's a good idea to emphasize the impacts and outcomes hunger strikes have had, especially in the notable examples listed. --Ronz (talk) 23:56, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs a "Rationale" section 

message: "Most hunger strikers will take liquids but not solid food." You can live, and not even get hungry, on milk indefinitely I believe. Likewise on soup. Both of these foods are liquids. So this is extremely confusing.Arctic Gazelle (talk) 15:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to change something in the article, I suggest finding proper references first. Otherwise, I'm concerned that we'd be violating WP:OR with any edits based upon these comments. --Hipal (talk) 18:59, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milk is a liquid and you won't even get hungry if you live on it. 

message: There is no section here on Turkey despite Hunger Strikes often being a center point of struggle in Turkish and Kurdish resistance. It seems there was at some point but it was (possibly malicious) deleted as this is a fairly trivial thing to find sources for. If anyone could contribute or recomend more reading that is accessible to me as a non-academic I would greatly appreciate that. Thank you. SP00KYtalk 17:55, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the recent addition, as it doesn't appear to fit the inclusion criteria with the given references. Please see the previous discussions on the inclusion criteria for this article. --Hipal (talk) 20:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it again for the same reasons as before. --Hipal (talk) 14:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkey

message: While this article refers to a number of events involving hunger strikes, it would be beneficial to add a section on the relationship between hunger strikes and sexuality. In other words, someone could examine how (or if) hunger strikes are employed as a means of support for the queer community. Are hunger strikes prevalent in this community? Does this trend differ globally? Pallavi Banerjee, co-author of The Politics and Aesthetics of Global Hunger (2017), might be a valuable source to consider. ~~~~Cb21519 Cb21519 (talk) 02:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunger strikes and sexuality