Talk:Trax (game)

message: GringoInChile 12:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

message: I removed the See also Tantrix. Tantrix and Trax are totally different games and the tantrix page doesn't mention trax at all.
TraxPlayer
:I've restored it, with an explanation of why it's there. Percy Snoodle 12:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what your criteria are for similarity; AFAICT, in the latest editions, the only differences are that Tantrix's tiles are hexagonal while Trax's are square, and they use a different set of colours for the lines.  They're more alike than they are different. Percy Snoodle 12:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  In that case, a reciprocal See also link should be added to the Tantrix article linking it to this one. GringoInChile 12:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text:  In Tantrix, all the tiles are different; in Trax, they're all identical.  And hence Trax is a pure strategy game, while Tantrix adds a chance element.  However, I do agree that there are enough similarities to justify the see-also links (which now exist).  Joule36e5 (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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message: This is a more annotated, sequential version of the game from http://www.traxgame.com/community_ontrax.php?article=43
;1  Bailey (White) 
 	@	 
0     	 	0
 	@	 
;2  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	 
0     	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	2
 	@	A	B	 
;3  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	 
0     	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	2
 	@	A	B	C	 
Note: no forced move in A2 because the two adjacent tiles have paths of different colors.
;4  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	 
0     	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	3
 	@	A	B	C	 
;5  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	 
0     	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	3
 	@	A	B	C	 
Forced moves:
* A0/
White has set a trap:
*  →  →  →  →  → 
*  →  →  →  →  → 
*  →  →  →  →  →  →  → 
The only safe defence is .
;6  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	 
0     	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	4
 	@	A	B	C	 
Forced moves:
* C2\
* C1\
;7  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	4
 	@	A	B	C	D	 
Forced moves:
* D2\
* D1\
White has set up an attack on the top edge:
*  →  →  →  → 
;8  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	 
Forced moves:
* B4/
* C4/
Black's counter-attack to defuse the edge threat
;9  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	 
Forced moves:
* @3\
White kills the Black counter-attack and sets up two more attacks:
#  →  →  →  →  →  → 
;10  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	 
Forced moves:
* B0/
* D0\
* E0\
;11  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	 
Forced moves:
* F1\
* F3/
;12  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	 
Forced moves:
* G3/
;13  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* B0/
;14  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* C7\
;15  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* E6+
;16  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* D1/
* F1\
;17  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* F6\
* F5+
* G5/
* G6/
* G7/
;18  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* G8/
* E8\
* D8\
* C8\
;19  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* F0\
;20  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
Forced moves:
* F0\
;21  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	 
;22  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
Forced moves:
* G1\
* G3/
* G4/
;23  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
;24  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
;25  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	 
;26  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
Forced moves:
* H4/
* H5/
* I5\
* I4\
;27  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
Forced moves:
* I7/
* H8/
* H9/
* H10/
* H11/
;28  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	 
;29  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
Forced moves:
* D12/
* E12/
* F12/
;30  Siegenthaler (Black) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
13    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	13
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
Forced moves:
* B11\
;31  Bailey (White) 
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
0     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	0
1     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	1
2     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	2
3     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	3
4     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	4
5     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	5
6     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	6
7     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	7
8     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	8
9     	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	9
10    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	10
11    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	11
12    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	12
13    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	13
 	@	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K	 
Forced moves:
* G12\
;32  Siegenthaler (Black) 
Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bailey—Siegenthaler 1994 

message: Unless I'm mistaken, and according to the given citation, a line is a contiguous path that extends across at least eight rows, *and* connects opposite and outermost edges of the current network of tiles (which, as I currently interpret it, means from empty row to opposite empty row). The given example extends for eight rows, however does not connect opposite edges of the network of tiles. 
I will likely be adding this soon if nobody objects to it. Maxio68 (talk) 04:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Line win condition is likely wrong