Talk:Caipirinha

message: I removed much of the content of this page, as it violates WP:NOT (see the section on "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information", point 8).  However, the content is contained within the wikibooks article which I have linked to.  --Xyzzyplugh 03:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I was having a hard time with the IPA editing of the pronunciation I added.  Can someone fix it? (Or look at it at least?)  Thanks!--will 08:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Brazilian Portuguese, South-Eastern dialect: []. Notice that the first syllable has a secondary stress. jggouvea 02:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I deleted all I've written above (except for the original post, because without that one the discussion would look weird). If you want to see the original argumentation, hit the history. This is a summary of what I think, what I discovered during this discussion, and my opinion wrt how WP policy fits here.
Premise 1: the drink is made of cachaça, sugar, and “limão”. There's even a federal law codifying that.
Premise 2: one species of “limão”, which happens to be the most common one in some regions, is apparently called a lime in English. We call it “limão taiti”.
Reasoning 1: premise 2 is non-obvious; the straightforward translation of “limão” is lemon on any dictionary, and even wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon linking to http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim%C3%A3o, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_fruit linking to http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima_(fruta), and vice-versa). Therefore, as I read the policy, in order to take that into account, we would need to link a reference to a reliable source.
Reasoning 2: the recipe doesn't say “limão taiti”; it says “limão”. There are many kinds of “limão”, most of which (in fact, AFAIK, all of them except “taiti”) are lemons. All of them are acceptable ingredients for caipirinha, including Citrus limon, the common lemon most people think of when they read “lemon” (which in Brazil is apparently called “limão siciliano”).
Reasoning 3: there are also many kinds of lime, and the one we call “taiti” isn't the most common one; the word lime, unqualified, means different fruit to different people, but to most, it means key lime, which is definitely called a lime (“lima”) in Brazil, and is definitely not acceptable to make caipirinha (not a matter of taste, but of chemistry).
Conclusion: in my opinion, it would be incorrect and misleading to write “lime” in the article. At most, maybe a note somewhere about how one specific kind of lime is called a “lemon” in Brazil and can be used to make the drink (and is commonly used around here, but not exclusively).
Lime is misleading. In Portuguese from Portugal "limão" (lemon) is a different fruit from lime (lima). Though sometimes people confuse both. In Brazil that happens a lot. Many times people refer to lime as lemon and vice versa. To help the confusion there's loads of caipirinha variations. But the problem is that the original recipe is made with tahiti LEMONS which are also called "green (acid) lime" despite the fact it's really a lemon. Though the common yellow lemon is less similar to tahiti lemons then to limes, hence the confusion. It's really with lemons despite the fact most people outside Brazil will always refer to them as limes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.69.8.232 (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Lalo's summary

message: Following a question at WP:EAR, I proffer this:
:The US government seems to think that Citrus latifolia is a lime , as does the Australian governmenet  and the Royal Horticultural Society .  The limes avaialable in UK greengrocers are usually Citrus latifolia.  There are so many citrus varieties all artificially generated from a few originals.  The RHS says that latifolia is derived from Citrus aurantiifolia  x  Citrus limon.  
:This article , although not an RS, casts some light on this. Also it appears that limão Tahiti is the Brazilian Portuguese name for Citrus Aurantifolia , which is definitely a lime. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:32, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Third Opinion

message: The word Caipirinha was also used (around 1996) for a "Chipset" for the next-gen Amiga of that time. Although it has never made it to the market, the chipset caused quite a stir amongst Amiga fans. Would you like to consider a disambiguation page for this, in my opinion, piece of history that has already nearly gone lost forever? Information about it is very hard to find (I did find some and added a reference to the Amiga models and variants page where the Caipirinha has been mentioned briefly) and I would love a disambiguation link to start a Caipirinha_(Chipset) or something along those lines page.
I might be wrong in assuming I have to ask first (my guess is the disambiguation page will be created somehow automatically, I never started a new wiki page) but I think it won't hurt either. --RobIII (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caipirinha disambiguation? 

message: so, lets decide. is the nickname "Gay Piranha" true or random vandalism? or even a term created by wikipedia vandalism? see  &
(>>  ) --CuteHappyBrute (talk) 18:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Like some fag from Switzerland would be an authoritative source on that. 177.41.4.191 (talk) 07:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay Piranhas

message: I can't really find a reliable source to quote, but a few years back the standard drinkware for caipirinha was elected, being favoured over the ones shown in the article. For images, search "copo de caipirinha" (caipirinha glass) on google image for several images confirming this. --Monsieur.lefou (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Standard Drinkware

message: I find this confusing:
:Caipirinha is based on Poncha, an alcoholic drink from Madeira, Portugal.[4] The main ingredient is aguardente de cana...
I would normally assume that the second sentence refers to the subject of the first, which is "Caipirinha": "The main ingredient (of Caipirinha) is aguardente de cana." But I suspect what it really wants to say is "The main ingredient (of Poncha) is aguardente de cana." I checked the source but am still confused. Kendall-K1 (talk) 12:54, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History confusion 

message: Under 'Devivations', what is 'Black vodka'?
71.139.166.154 (talk) 04:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a link to a proprietary brand which has an article. This seems to be the only suitable article. Sorry you had to wait two years for a reply. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Vodka 

message: The unsourced derivations should be sourced or removed, per WP:V. Kendall-K1 (talk) 11:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So that's all but the last one? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced derivations 

message: I removed the last two paragraphs of the History section, which were copied from . Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:54, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio