Talk:Nick Dandolos

message: I've moved the Craps piece to the discussion page because it flows awkardly and is not sourced.  Actually most of this article is not sourced.  If anyone wants to rearrange this and source it, go for it:
:In addition to marathon card games, Nick also played long distance craps; tenatiously hanging in there at the table, hours and sometimes days until the game went his way, as he knew it must and he played himself out of his losses. Because Nick (unlike the vast majority of craps shooters) believed in the frequency of the '7' showing. 
:Digressing briefly into the game of craps helps us understand not only just how much of an individualist and truly knowleagable gambler Nick was, but also a man who was prepared to go against popular culture and habits (in craps) because of what he believed was 'right' and the most sensible logical thing to do. In this case, if the house lets you play their game, for the lowest vigorish going, you'd be crazy not to take up their offer, even if it meant initially laying out more of your own money on the table. 
:Nick played this way for a very simple reason - '7' is the easiest number to make for a pair of dice. It is the number around which the entire game of casino craps revolves, and Nick bet continually for this event to occur - playing the 'wrong' (or Don't Pass/Don't Come) side of the table ie. betting 'with' the casino, 'against' the shooter trying to make his Point. 
:Except for his reputation, this strategy certainly made Nick no friends around the table, as most players believed this kind of game jinxed the dice and brought bad luck. For them certainly. Not for Nick, whose game was one of the smartest going, with not only the lowest house percentage against the player in the casino, but the fastest action. Which was what Nick lived for. But it's a strategy which requires both the courage, and the bankroll to lay the long end of the odds - both of which Nick had in abundance until luck and the house percentage broke even him.SmartGuy 15:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the Wikipedia is the encyclopedia where anyone can edit, you're welcome to make changes to the article to improve it. Rray (talk) 13:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Craps section

message: Should this be moved to "Nick Dandalos" or should there be a redirect page from there to here? Clarityfiend 23:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. SmartGuy 15:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name change

message: The Wikipedia article on Moss brings the match into question and as I mentioned in the Discussion there, a bio of Dandolos completely fails to mention such a macth.--Jrm2007 (talk) 07:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moss match 

message: What is the purpose of adding the poker info box on this entry?  It doesn't seem to add anything to the article.Kanapapiki (talk) 17:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poker Info Box 

message: The muckraking 1964 book about Las Vegas “Green Felt Jungle” mentions Nick as present at a kidnapping/extortion attempt in post-war Vegas, leaning against the wall. I know of no other reference to this; is it accurate? 
One story is:
Late in 1949, the Greek lost $550,000 to Ray Ryan and thought he was cheated.
He was. 
The Greek got his Mafia buddies to go after Ryan. 
The Greek was indicted for trying to kidnap Ray Ryan, and turned state's evidence.
Ryan was murdered in 1978 over this old, hot score.
Now, if Nick was indicted, and turned State’s Evidence, there will be some official record. If this story is true, it belongs in the article, but it must be properly sourced first. 
If the story is true, is there any record of what his Mafia buddies thought of him turning state’s evidence? 
2A00:23C3:E284:900:954:67F3:61B7:A910 (talk) 11:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Kidnap plot

message: “After 1949, Nick the Greek was a changed man. One night he went in to the Horseshoe, maybe 1951, and lost $200,000 on credit betting the don't pass line. Then he went across the street to the Golden Nugget, and lost $60,000 on credit. He went to all the Strip casinos and wrote markers. He went to Reno and California and the word spread. The Greek's markers and his word were never any good again. He'd get staked some for poker and dice, and lose. He put the touch on every one he saw. That's when Sid Wyman persuaded Nick the Broke to do his only interview with Collier's in 1954. It repeated the now-ironic-to-everyone-in-Las-Vegas lie that the Greek was always good for his debts. The Greek's stories there, and in Cy Rice's biography, really stop in 1949, the last year he really played high. He shilled, and hustled, and borrowed for eighteen more years. He died when he was 84 in 1966, busto.“ 213.205.240.126 (talk) 16:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: More on the Greek, From Johnny Hughes