Talk:Brian Horrocks

message: I just started this article today and I'm aware it's a bit "bare bones", particularly on his role in Second Alamein and Market Garden. However I don't feel that I know enough about these battles to comment on his involvement. If anyone wants to expand on these I think it would help the article. Leithp 14:28, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Start 

message: There is a discussion going on here whether or not the first sentence of a biographical article should contain the full name of the individual and include any post nominal initials (eg. VC, KCB, OBE) or whether these should be relegated to later in the article. I have tried to point out that this is standard style and part of their full titles but there are “readability” concerns. This arose because of the Richard O’Connor featured article and one possible solution, a biobox, is now in place on that page. Please make your opinions known.Dabbler 12:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style issue discussion 

message: Dis Horrocks serve with the British Mission i.e. in a quasi-diplomatic role as Britain did not recognise the Soviet government but had a Mission in Moscow. Or was he in the military British Expeditionary Force that occupied Archangel or Murmansk for a while in 1919-20? Dabbler 19:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At first he was there to co-ordinate supplies to the white armies but later he trained troops for them prior to his capture. He was over in Vladivostock, so pretty far away from Archangel. I've been puzzling over how to get a lot of this stuff into the article without overloading it with anecdotes. Leithp 19:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mission or Expeditionary Force? 

message: I have a question. Does anybody know where Gen. Horrocks is buried? 19th April 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.131.29.11 (talk • contribs).
:He was cremated but there are two versions I have read of what happened to his ashes before they were belatedly interred this year. This article, citing a Daily Telegraph report (which I have no online subscription to read) states they were left 'at the crematorium near Chichester', but this month's 'Soldier', the magazine of the British Army, states they were left at "a Chichester funeral home" [ie undertakers premises] for nearly 40 years. Note that funeral directors often on request keep ashes on their premises, under registration, usually so that at a later date they can be scattered or interred alongside those of a surviving relative. There is a crematorium at Chichester which was in existence by the time of his death.Cloptonson (talk) 05:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. 92.232.42.3 (talk) 21:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grave 

message: On his return to the United Kingdom Horrocks looked for something else to occupy his time and decided to take up the modern pentathlon. He competed in army tournaments and, eventually, the 1924 Paris Olympics
Do we know how well he did ? JS1 (talk) 06:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked The Times - he didn't make the podium at any rate.  Gold went to a Finn, Silver to a Hungarian and Bronze to an American.  --Harlsbottom (talk|library) 08:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This website says he finished 19th of 38. I'll try and see if I can find any verification for that. Leithp 18:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds about right, considering in A Full Life he writes he finished "well down in the order of merit".  Speaking of which how in the hell are his memoirs available for download?  There has to be some sort of copyright restriction on his work, even in the United States, surely. --Harlsbottom (talk) 12:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that website is well referenced, I think I might just use it to give the placing. As for the copyright status of Horrocks' autobiography, I have no idea. Leithp 13:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Olympics

message: I've finally tracked down his MC (the OCR process used when the Gazettes were scanned had rendered his surname as Hoxrocks which is why it was a little tricky to find), his MC is amongst a batch awarded
Since the only mentions of escape attempts are in relation to his time as a POW of the Germans, I've assumed that this relates to that period, rather than that of his capture by the Russians, although timewise that would fit better.  Do any of the more general references about him cover this (the ODNB is no clearer).  David Underdown (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He didn't attempt to escape in Russia, so it would have been whilst a German POW. Leithp 16:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MC 

message: Just a quick note to acknowledge all the work that everyone has put in to get this to featured status. Thanks to: SoLando, Finetooth, David Underdown, EyeSerene, Roger Davies, Ian Rose, Harlsbottom, Kirrages, Climie.ca and all the others whose edits, reviews and constructive criticism helped drag the prose out of the mire, sort out the references, ensure compliance with the MOS, and bring the article up to FA standard. Three cheers to all of you! Leithp 15:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Big congrats to you Leith - well done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup - good work all, and thanks Leithp ;) EyeSerenetalk 07:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured 

message: I was horrified to find a ref with 9 citations from the LG in it. Since the ref related to 5 different appointments I decided to split them up. However, I got this message on my Talk page:
Fair enough, but I still think 9 citations consolidated is a horror. So I'm going to re-do the split, grouping the citations by appointment and trying to get the syntax right this time!) so that everyone can see what it looks like. If the consensus dislikes it, we can revert. Also I will try to find the correct LG citation for staff college instructor (Horrocks is not mentioned in the 9th citation as far as I can see. Ah I see, it's on the second page of the quoted range. I'll fix that). Regards Stephen Kirrage talk - contribs 11:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The refs were consolidated like that in order to meet an objection in the review process. To be honest, I prefer them like that anyway as I find more than one ref per sentence tends to hamper readability. At least one WP:Milhist editor, who is the author of a number of FAs, consolidates all his refs into one per paragraph. That might be taking it a little far, though. Leithp 18:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consolidated refs 

message: Is the correct name for the conflict in question,it is occasionally referred to as the Anglo Irish War but only in Britian in the immediate aftermath of the conflict. So I believe we should use Irish War of Independence Finnegas (talk) 20:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. Do you have a reference for that? As I mentioned, I used the name of the conflict used in one of the sources when writing the article. Leithp 07:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about the delay in replying sources no problem 
* ""History of Ireland’s War of Independence changed by Kerry students"" Irish Central 
* ""Soldiers KIA War of Independence"" IrishMedals.org 
*  ""Conflicts  in Ireland The  Irish  War  of Independence 1919- 1922"" 
Finnegas (talk) 14:54, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked up a general history encyclopedia I have, to see if it's just the Horrocks source, but The Oxford Companion to Military History ISBN0198606966 refers to the conflict as "Anglo-Irish War". Encyclopedia Britannica uses "Anglo-Irish War (Irish War of Independence, 1919–21)". As it is, I'm inclined to leave the article as per the sources. Leithp 16:53, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Irish War of Independence]]

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message: In the Early Life and First World War section it states "Years later, working in the House of Commons", however, the only role he appears to have from the rest of the article is Black Rod, which is role within the House of Lords and not the HoC. Did he hold another role or should this be amended to House of Lords? --White&BlueWasp (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
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message: He seems to have been captured by the Red Army before he arrived in Russia: "In 1919 Horrocks was posted to Russia as part of the Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War. After landing at Vladivostok on 19 April, ..." but also "He was captured by the Red Army on 7 January 1919...". Housecarl (talk) 12:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Good spot. Seems he was captured in January 1920, arriving in Krasnoyarsk shortly after the city came under control of the revolutionaries. 213.205.198.203 (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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