Talk:The Shield

message: The season 7 section mentions a September 2008 start date but no source is cited. Summer 2008 is all I can find. Should this claim be removed?  18.95.7.107 (talk) 00:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unverified claim about start of Season 7

message: Anyone know why the badges are on the wrong side of the police uniforms on this show? 69.58.224.12 08:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure that it's because of complaints about the show from the LAPD.  They switched the position of the badges, and made the badges look different, to placate them. Liquidindian 04:35, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I added in a hidden comment, Michael Chiklis discusses this in a "behind the scenes" spot that has aired on FX this winter (2006-2007).  He mentions that in the pilot episode the badges are duplicates of the real LAPD badges and worn properly, however the LAPD insisted that the badges be worn on the opposite side to ensure that there was no confusion between real officers and actors.  Not sure how we can turn this into a reliable source.  /Blaxthos 15:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Badges

message: In the first section some of the comments comparing the Farmington strike team to real life LAPD Officers involved with Rampart's CRASH unit are POV. Most of the allegations concerning Rampart CRASH officers were based on the testimony of Rafael Perez. Perez was an officer who was caught stealing large amounts of cocaine from LAPD evidence storage, and testified against fellow officers in a bid for clemency. The accuracy of many of his statements was never postively established. In fact four Ramparat officers who were dismissed in the wake of the scandal recently succesfully sued the city of Los Angeles for fifteen million dollars as a result of false accusations coming from the Rampart scandal.68.66.108.121 11:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: Some backgrounds on the gangs would be nice.  I always get confused on who's who. --Dangerous-Boy 09:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background on the gangs 

message: I've removed all remarks regarding the March 21, 2006 episode being the "season finale" of the show. The season has been split up into two parts (similar to what's done on shows like South Park and Monk), with the second part due to air later this year (or early next year). I've also noted this information in the "Season 5" section of the article. -- MisterHand 05:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The show started early this year. If the show resumes early next year, how is that the same season? Not to mention the FX commercials for the last episode that specifically said, "You knew a season like this would have a finale like this." Kafziel 13:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cable seasons are not like network seasons, and they aren't based on the calendar year. The Shield is not the first show to split up its season like this, and Shawn Ryan has stated in several interviews that this is only the first part of season 5. -- MisterHand 13:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just marketing B.S. If it starts in the winter, then goes off the air for nine months and starts in the winter again, that's a new season. It has nothing to do with cable vs. network, it has to do with reality vs. delusion. Kafziel 13:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a reference to the article. -- MisterHand 15:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an interesting article, but I don't see how it supports the claim that season five is only half over. According to that source, written on 3/14, The Shield "is now nearing the end of its fifth season." It doesn't mention anything about a hiatus, or a split season, or even that this could be the last one. Kafziel 15:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that...the mention of the season split is in the audio portion of the article, Shawn Ryan mentions it near the end of the interview. -- MisterHand 15:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, okay. I'll have to check it out later, then. On another note - is Shawn Ryan ending the Shield because he's done with it, or because he's working on The Unit? That show is like a ridiculous mix of JAG and Desperate Housewives; I can't believe Ryan would even touch it. Kafziel 16:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 5 isn't over 

message: Nice job on creating some seperate characters for some of the more noteworthy characters on the Shield.  Makes the page seem a lot cleaner and helps load it a bit faster.
I have transferred all the remaining characters from the main article to the seperate character page, does anyone have any views of removing some of the characters from the main page? I don't think that people like Tom Bankston or Paul Jackson need to be on the main page, and can instead be accommodated better in the seperate page. I was going to just remove all the characters from the main page, but maybe some of the current main characters should be left? Anyone have any thoughts on this, or who should be left? 87.192.76.66 20:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Current strike team, current admin, and current police officers should only be left on character page,  past charachters, or those of little importance have no relevance on the main page and should be removed to reduce the mess in this section... 136.206.11.249 15:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nice Job On Creating More Seperate Character Pages

message: He seems to be really adminent on making the pages the way he feels they should be.  This guy is going to keep on maliciously editing our hard work on the page just because he feels it doesn't live up to his lofty standards.  He's also been hostile, condescending, and rather inconsiderate of everyone's feelings and suggestions.  Is there some way we can report him to the management of Wikipedia so he can knock it off and just let things be.  I know he's got a job to do, but he's been really overzealous about it.
:: You could have a word with an administrator about him or her, but they have limited power to deal with overzealous or mildly uncivil editors. If you strongly disagree with Hpuppet's edits then revert them with your justification. If her persists then we could go to mediation. I'd suggest just letting it go as he/she seems to have moved on to pastures new. Rockpocket 17:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Do You All Think We Should Write A Complaint about Hpuppet?

message: Today I created a new page, List of The Shield characters, to try to help this main page stay concise and neat. I am now trying to merge one or two of the smaller stubs that have been created on (as I see them) minor characters, starting with Armadillo Quintero. I originally did it without asking, but now I see there is some dispute there so I've tagged both articles for a merge proposal. I will probably suggest one for Margos Dezerian and possibly Terry Crowley as well, since they were only in a couple of episodes each. I'm a big fan of the show, and I'm not looking to delete tons of content, but I also want the articles to be up to Wikipedia's standards for fiction. I think this will cut down on a lot of the criticism, attacks, and edit wars. I would appreciate it if you would leave your comments here. Kafziel 05:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: Anyone else think lem should be placed under strike team members even though he is dead?--Dangerous-Boy 21:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: um..you didn't see the last season's last ep then...--D-Boy 21:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  lem should be under strike team members 

message: She deserves her own page if Dutch has one.
but Dutch is awesome and Claudette is not!! Bwithh 03:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Claudette

message: Does anyone know the brand and make of the sunglasses Mackey wears during the series????  THanks!
Negative, but ray-ban and Tommy Bahama both have similar frames and I'm sure his are made by one of the two.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.252.142.230 (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vic Mackey Sunglasses 

message: Are we sure about that? My recollection is that Tavon simply disappeared from the series without explanation.
As far as I know they're Eastbay Incognitos.
The last time Tavon was mentioned in the series was in the final episode of season three; Vic mentions to Acaveda that Tavon had been taken off the active duty roster due to his injuries and as such, was effectively bounced from the Strike Team due to protocal. We never found out exactly how severe Tavon's injuries were, so presuming that he made a full recovery, Tavon probably was reassigned to a new precinct and resumed work as a detective somewhere else....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BakerBaker (talk • contribs) 07:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tavon left the LAPD? 

message: I do not recall it being definitely stated or otherwise shown that Mackey is the baby's father. It was certainly implied, but I do not think we can assert he is the father as fact.
::Agreed ... Vic handed her the money from the office pool, as the father was never "revealed". While there seem to be body language indicating this, neither verbally confirmed (working off of 8-month memory).
* In the final season, Vic and Danny openly acknowledge the baby is Vic's and wife Corrine and daughter Cassidy both find out.Naaman Brown (talk) 13:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danny's Baby... 

message: In the episode where they introduce Armadillo, and Vic is hiring the private detective, did anyone catch it when the PI said "if she is anywhere in the free 52, we'll find her."? Is that referring to the 50 states plus Guam and Puerto Rico or something? What about the Virgin Islands? The 50 states plus Mexico and Canada? Perhaps I just misheard? --Fxer 07:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember the line, and it does sound kind of add (as you say, the United States has more than two protectorates, and anyway, referring to them as the "free fifty-whatever" would have to be pretty unusual).  You may have just misheard it. Xihr (talk) 23:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Free 52" reference? 

message: Just to let you know that 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment is owning the Region 1 DVD rights to The Shield with Sony Pictures Home Entertainment owning the rights to the first and second seasons on Region 2 DVD. Sony Pictures Television will distribute and syndicate the reruns of the series to local stations, beginning in the fall. Don-Don 22:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Distribution

message: Am I just missing it, or is there no mention of the Decoy Squad anywhere?  They should be at least as important as Joe Clark, considering he was only in one episode and they spanned most of a season.MistaTee 18:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decoy Squad 

message: Antwon is incarcerated at Lompoc Penetentiary, not "Longpoke" as stated in the article. Lompoc (pronounced lom-POKE) is a high security prison up near Vandenberg AFB.66.75.250.253 17:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I've fixed it. Kafziel Talk 18:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antwon's Incarceration 

message: It seems at present that in Australia it is not being shown on Channel Ten which gets the first run of it...looking at the official website for the network this is what they said:
"The Shield
The Shield was taken off air due to late night motorsport commitments. It will be scheduled once a consistent timeslot can be found. We love The Shield too and can't wait for it's return."
--Mikecraig 03:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Shield - Australian TV

message: it says the region 2 release of season 4 is july 2nd, is there a solid source on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.1.40.75 (talk) 07:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  confirmation on dvd release dates? 

message: A new noticeboard, Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard, has been created. - Peregrine Fisher 18:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This noticeboard has been deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard. Please disregard the above post. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard]] 

message: I think there is more to this character than simply being Vic's replacement. He understands Vic's approach. He is also not portrayed as Vic's replacement to Vic. As far as Vic knows they are both part of the team. 140.146.230.222 03:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Detective Kevin Hiatt

message: Removed this section, which had recently been restored, with the reason for its deletion challenged. This section is being deleted per Wikipedia policy; there are numerous precedents for this.
Lists of this type can never be encyclopedic. They go against WP:NOT#DIR, where Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide speaks directly to this matter. When kept current, such lists also go against Wikipedia:Avoid statements that will date quickly, since international broadcasters change frequently. Precedents: articles of this type of list for Closer and 24 closed with decisions to Delete, based entirely on WP:NOT.
Here are some recent discussions:
*Talk:Scrubs (TV series)
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International broadcasters for 24 (TV series)
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Closer broadcasters
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Smallville broadcasters and home video releases
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Broadcasting of Desperate Housewives
The argument given in the  edit summary for this restore, "WP:NOT#GUIDE doesn't mention anything remotely related to broadcaster listings", seems to demand improbable specificity in a guideline that clearly states Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide. / edg ☺ ★ 23:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International broadcasters list 

message: The final episode of Season 5 (Post Partum) has around 20 minutes of it edited out for the Region 2 release. The original episode was around 78 minutes long (in effect a double length episode, once advert breaks were added) - however for the UK release, it was shortened to the regular 45 minute length - presumably this is because the shorter version was broadcast on UK tv and therefore had a BBFC rating, whereas the longer one did not. 
Is this relevant to the DVD section of the article? It is, of course, intensely annoying to Region 2 buyers, but i am not sure if wikipedia is meant to be a forum for pointing out differences between DVD regional releases.
77.97.207.221 (talk) 11:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's minor trivia, and is not appropriate for an encyclopdia article.  As for whether it bugs customers, Wikipedia is not a consumer or buying guide, so that's not really relevant. Xihr (talk) 22:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then why mention DVDs at all? Surely the purpose of having the release dates in there is for people who want to but the DVDs - or at least, have some passing interest in Shield DVDs, rather than just the tv show per se. I think it is very relevant that different versions of a particular episode exist.
62.25.109.195 (talk) 15:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

text: It is terrible though that R2 buyers and fans in the UK don't see so much like the direct unvieling of Vic's new kid and so forth, its notable enough to to deserve a mention. Wikipedia is supposed to cover all topics about the subject so at least its mentioned in half a sentance i guess  82.3.48.129 (talk) 20:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final episode of Season 5 on R2 DVD release 

message: I take exception to the (editorial) comment about 'The shield's' "realist" strategy of saving background music for the final montage of a given episode.  While the lack of background music during the bulk of the episode itself could be argued to be a realist strategy, including a song-of-the-week over a slow-motion montage at the end of an episode is in fact a marketing ploy meant to make the show more relevant or more accessible to its "coveted [male] 18-49" demographic.  Fox/FX masterminded this technique with 'The OC' and employ it in many of their serial dramas, including 'Rescue me' and 'nip/tuck.'  If the comment about realism stays, I do think acknowledging the marketing aspect is important, too. Jcfregnan (talk) 14:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize that this response is over two years late, but I will make it anyway...In what way is the ending montage marketing? Is there a source for this idea or is it your own feelings on the matter? I'm no marketing expert myself, but if I was to use a montage to make something more "relevant" or "accessible" to a key demographic, I: a) wouldn't wait until fifty-plus odd minutes into the show to do it, and b) I would use music from bands that more than a dozen people had heard of, quite unlike the mostly obscure groups to have their music featured in such montages (with some exceptions, of course).--172.190.15.231 (talk) 03:45, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reception" subsection, inclusion of background music 

message: An editor is insisting on including Glenn Close in the main infobox for The Shield, with the following justification: Glenn Close was billed before the opening title all throughout Season 4, along with all the other main characters. While her stay may have only been for one season, it's only an opinion that she shouldn't be included in the infobox. It's a fact she was credited in top billing (unlike two-season character Forrest Whitaker, from Season 5-6). Unless you can direct me to a discussion about which actors from the show should be included in the infobox, I'm reverting Glenn Close back into the infobox.Close was only in one season out of seven, and this article specifically deals with the show in its entirety.  Placing Close in the main infobox would be misleading, as she was only a seasonal guest.  I don't really follow the Whitaker logic, as he was on the show for longer than Close.  In any case, the IMDB entry does not list Close as a featured cast member, and given that she appeared in fewer than 15% of the episodes, I'm going to revert this (inappropriate) addition.  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone who had their name appear during the credits section goes in the infobox, anyone billed as guest star of special guest star does not. Look as Heroes, Lost, Twin Peaks and any other TV infobox (particularly the West Wing where Rob Lowe and Joshua Malina appeared in 50% of the episodes each but both are in the infobox. Alan Alda appeared in seasons 6/7 and he's in the infobox). Glenn Close was not a "guest star" or "special guest star", she was on the main cats list, so she goes int he info box. Darrenhusted (talk) 21:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this should be put to a vote. The reason behind Glenn Close being credited in the opening, and Forrest Whitaker not being credited in the opening has to do with contracting. Perhaps Shawn Ryan believed (or believes) Close to be a more important character than Whitaker (which is something I don't agree with, I'm just speculating here). My point being that we should just stick to the facts: Glenn Close's contract was to be billed in the opening sequence along with the other main characters. While you made a good point that it's misleading to put Close into the infobox, we need to consider that there are already spoilers in the article, so misleading Close as a series-long character is the least of worries here. Furthermore, this adds to confusion as to who's allowed in the infobox? Somebody who's been billed since Season 1. That leaves out several critical characters. What's the rule to be allowed in the infobox? A percentage of episodes? This should be discussed. Lastly, IMDb is a very poor resource, as many fans contribute to its development without having to cite sources.Geeky Randy (talk) 03:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Then the West Wing infobox is misleading, then the Heroes inforbox is misleading, then the Twin Peaks infobox is misleading, then the Lost infobox is misleading. The imdb is not the source, the opening titles are, and that rule keeps it simple for all TV and film articles, those who are billed as starring go in the infobox. No need to vote, and remember voting is evil. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glenn Close 

message: This page has a lot of related articles which are composed solely of in-universe material with no real-world significance or notability. As Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, I'd like to redirect the following articles to the article page:
*Shane Vendrell
*Vic Mackey
*Curtis Lemansky
*Jon Kavanaugh
*Danielle Sofer
*Julien Lowe
*Dutch Wagenbach
*Monica Rawling
*Claudette Wyms
*David Aceveda
*Ronnie Gardocki
*Antwon Mitchell
*Kevin Hiatt
Please weigh in below. Remember that, while these articles may look nice and be comprehensive, this is not Wikia. m.o.p 02:50, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not knowing much about The Shield, it appears that Vic Mackey and David Aceveda could merit stand-alone articles. The rest, if redirected anywhere, should be merged into List of The Shield characters. Fortdj33 (talk) 04:01, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I could see a weak argument being made for making Mackey a stub, but why Aceveda? There's barely anything there except an interview with the actor. m.o.p 06:36, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the input. However, even with the characters merged into that list - what's the point of the list? It's an indiscriminate collection of information with no encyclopedic bearing. Likewise, pruning the character pages doesn't have any real merit, given that there's nothing in most of them that warrants any encyclopedic mention. m.o.p 23:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus on this page's related articles