Talk:Chevy Chase, Maryland

message: Chevy Chase, Maryland, is not named after the actor, but I thought it was until I followed the story.  Someone deleted my contribution about this.Calypsos 00:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard that a 'chase' is another name for a brook or stream, and Chevy Chase comes from Chevy's Chase.  Who or what Chevy is I do not know.  If you look up Chevy and Chase at www.dictionary.com, both seem to mean the same thing - a hunt or a pursuit.  Tkessler 05:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, but I think in arriving at a stage name, he opportunistically seized upon that. In any event Chevy Chase, which includes a portion of the District of Columbia around Friendship Heights, precedes this individual by decades and is a very upscale area of Greater Washington akin to areas like Marin County, even Beverly Hills.  It would be good if Wikipedia did a "disambiguation" page that prevented those from seeking information about Chevy Chase, the place, being directly routed to that person.Tom Cod 05:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "The name Chevy was actually a nickname ... Being a descendant of the Scottish Douglases, who repelled an English invasion at the Battle of Cheviot Hills ("Chevy Chase") in 1436, the name "Chevy" seemed appropriate." 65.96.134.101 11:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I dunno.  It's a one-off joke and only mildly amusing. Plus ""in pop culture" sections are, or often become, havens for trivia. I would be inclined to let it pass. Thanks for noticing it though!  JohnInDC (talk) 04:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name 

message: I recently added the name of JR McNeill to the notable residents section, but he seems to have been deleted, and I can't figure out why.  He seems to satisfy the Notability guidelines...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.190.158 (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I took him out because the DC area is crawling with successful, often "Wikipedia notable" people, and if the article listed everyone in Chevy Chase who met the notability guidelines, the article could go on for pages.  The notability guidelines are designed, I think, for helping decide whether someone warrants a Wikipedia article of their own.  That is a different question than whether a particular article *not* about that person is improved by including them in a list such as this.  (Probably the list should be captioned "famous or notorious residents" rather than "notable", which is a bit confusing.)  JohnInDC (talk) 23:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  J.R.McNeill 

message: Isn't chevauchee a French word?
Yes, "chevauchée" is a French word (still exists in modern French).  It comes from the word "cheval", which means "horse", and means roughly "a fast ride on a horse" (horseback ride). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.188.67.164 (talk) 05:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  chevauchee 

message: The separate linked list of "famous people" / "notable residents" may well be the more appropriate place to warehouse all the famous folks from Chevy Chase and elsewhere in the DC region, but that list and this list aren't identical and until that is the case, the "local" list should stay.  I'll be happy to undertake the conforming exercise when I find time (but I won't be offended if someone eager to clean things up would like to do it in my place before then).  JohnInDC (talk) 17:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When you simply reverted, you added a redundancy, keeping the list along with the link to the separate list under 'see also'. These lists are highly prone to vandalism and all sorts miscreants wanting to add themselves and others that aren't really notable to the list. It's far easier to manage if you combine it and keep them all in one place. And WP:CITIES' US city guideline recommends keeping it in a separately linked list as well. So I've reverted your reversion, and updated the linked list to match the list that you added back. Dr. Cash (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable residents list 

message: (Moved from User_talk:JohnInDC#Your_edits_to_Chevy_Chase..)
While I realize citing one article may not be enough to state "restrictions in most deeds," there is no other reasonable option. I do have 320 deeds which include these covenants if you would like me to post all of those.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.195.16.211 (talk) 15:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a reliable source or sources that says "most", then by all means cite to it and make the change.  Your 320 deeds are certainly a lot, but the inferences you draw from them constitute original research, which cannot form the basis for Wikipedia entries.  It's also hard to say on that information alone whether it's more fairly described as "most" or merely "some".  How many lots are there in Chevy Chase, do you suppose?  JohnInDC (talk) 15:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Interesting.  Still, the one source says "some", and your "many" amounts to original research.  Please find a reliable source to support your phrasing!  (I'm going to move this exchange to the Chevy Chase Talk page, where it more appropriately belongs.)  JohnInDC (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Fine with me - JohnInDC (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restrictive covenants 

message: There's a lot of activity lately from newly-created accounts re historical exclusionary practices in Chevy Chase.  The entries are by and large accurate and well documented.  I've been editing them, however, to ensure that they are presented in full context and that inferences drawn from them do not go beyond the facts.
By "context" I mean, for example, that restrictive covenants were exceedingly common in suburban communities throughout the United States during the nineteen teens, twenties and thirties.  There is no escaping Chevy Chase's past in this regard but it is important to avoid the implication that Chevy Chase was exceptional.  (Considering for example that the adjoining District of Columbia was *officially* segregated until 1964.)  By "avoiding inferences beyond the facts", I mean avoiding language that implies that Chevy Chase's early segregationist practices in some fashion still insulate the community today.  The *facts* are clear (Chevy Chase's current black population of 3.6% is low compared with the black population in the region) but the reasons less so.  JohnInDC (talk) 15:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: could we perhaps move the percentage to another place? Many town articles provide a racial demographic at the top right of the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.195.16.211 (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As best I can tell, the 3.6% figure for black population (which I just removed) referred to Chevy Chase (CDP), Maryland, which as the map on that page shows, is not coterminous with the subject of this article.  This Census link shows the databases for all Maryland locations with the name "Chevy Chase".    They are, specifically, Chevy Chase CDP, Chevy Chase Section Five, Chevy Chase Section Three, Chevy Chase View, Chevy Chase Village, and Chevy Chase town.  The correct figure for this article would, I think, need to tally them all up and calculate a percentage that way.  (North Chevy Chase might have to be in the mix as well.)  JohnInDC (talk) 17:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Martin's Additions, too.  JohnInDC (talk) 17:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you're talking about those infoboxes that accompany articles about cities, towns, etc. -- the problem here is that this article isn't about an actual town, or any area that's recognized by the Census.  An infobox probably isn't appropriate under these circumstances, and even if an infobox were okay, I wouldn't want to include in it a figure that is simply an editorial invention.  For what it's worth, if you look at the individual pages of the other "Chevy Chase"s, you'll see that demographics make up a very large part of the articles; I suppose because other than that, there is very little to say about them.  JohnInDC (talk) 17:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restrictive covenants / racial makeup, etc. 

message: What are the zip codes for all areas of "Chevy Chase"? 
20815, 20895, 20814?
Please include list of zip codes in the article.  Thanks.
:: NO.  ABSOLUTELY NOT.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.103 (talk) 09:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chevy Chase, MD zip codes? 

message: I changed Unincorporated area in the infobox to "Unincorporated community". Largs parts of Chevy Chase are incorporated, however it does meet the first deffination of "Unincorporated community" listed under Unincorporated area#United_States:
"a neighborhood or other community existing within one or across multiple existing incorporated areas (i.e., cities or towns). In this sense, a community is part of a municipal government, but not separately incorporated from it.  For example, Hyannis, Massachusetts, is an unincorporated village within the town of Barnstable."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk • contribs) 22:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't object to the change but I think you have it backwards.  Unlike the unincorporated village of Hyannis within the incorporated town of Barnstable, all the villages in Chevy Chase are incorporated and exist (in part) within or alongside an unincorporated community.  JohnInDC (talk) 22:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's correct, Chevy Chase isn't like Hyannis. Hyannis is within one incorporated area, Chevy Chase is across multiple incorporated areas, and one unincorporated area (the Chevy Chase CDP). Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 13:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unincorporated area vs unincorporated community 

message: This page states:
Chevy Chase, the actor, whose real name is Cornelius Crane Chase, was nicknamed after the community.
Chevy Chase (actor page) states:
Chase was named for his adoptive grandfather Cornelius, while the nickname "Chevy" was bestowed by his grandmother, derived from the medieval English Ballad of Chevy Chase.
--Billybass (talk) 10:25, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim here is sourced - not richly, and I personally am a bit skeptical, but the source is reliable.  I can't see inside the ref on the other page - I wonder if it's more definitive on the subject?  JohnInDC (talk) 16:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradicts [[Chevy Chase]] (actor page) RE nickname source 

message: Just updated the history to include that Chevy Chase was made for affluent residents, and some information about the Chevy Chase Club. Thuguely (talk) 04:02, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the edits.  They do drop in a few concepts a bit out of the blue (the Olmstead connection for example) and I'll clean it up a bit.  Also I removed the parts about the "affluent" nature of the suburb.  That characterization isn't in the sources.  Chevy Chase was planned as "residential" and "non-commercial", but that's not the same as "wealthy".  JohnInDC (talk) 11:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In going through the material I found another source re the Chevy Chase Club and was able to straighten out the history a bit.  They started out on the Bradley Farm property, which they leased from private owners (not the Land Co.); later, they were able to purchase it outright.  I took out the Olmstead reference, because it's just a passing reference in the source and it's hard to tell whether the connection between Olmstead and the Land Co. was an actual one, or an inference drawn by the article's author.  JohnInDC (talk) 13:51, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: This page's name says it's about Maryland places but its lead says it's about Maryland and DC places. Should this article be about only the Maryland places or should it include the DC neighborhood as well? Put another way, do we need a page about all the Chevy Chase places, or shall we divide them by state/district? The 2013 discussion above does not appear to have arrived at a consensus. I'd suggest we either 1) keep the name and change the lead, in which case we should also discuss whether an overall Chevy Chase page is needed; or 2) change the name to "Chevy Chase (place)" and write through the article so that it is not so Maryland-centric. Thoughts? PRRfan (talk) 19:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope of this article, revisited