Talk:Munster

message: To confuse matters slightly without contributiong anything of substance: there is actually a town called Munster in Germany, and a separate town called Münster. Most everyone who links to Munster actually means Münster. AxelBoldt 02:45, 11 Sep 2002 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL, one can find a "exhaustive" collection of Munster/Münster/Minster place names at Munster (disambiguation) -- User:Docu 14:21, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: I did it again in March 2008 after user:Docu did it in 2003. Though 5 years is quite long, I still think that this article should be moved to Munster (Ireland). Andries (talk) 20:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   Old talk 

message: Rugby is one of munster's biggest claims to fame in Europe, being one of the stronsest teams, perahps this should get it's own section, after all "Power" got it's own section. Paul5121 (talk) 22:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that something substantial needs to be added, (I may even start it tomorrow). After all, without provincial rugby, the name Munster would be less well known in the Irish context than it currently is, (same with Leinster, Ulster and Connacht). With recent successes and the fan-base being arguably the largest worldwide, a lot of people would think of the Irish rugby team before the province without realising the two are one and the same effectively. Doesn't have to be in too much depth, just a general rundown and link to main article. Sport is not mentioned in great detail either, so could be added as part of an expanded section on this. Steve hill4 (talk) 22:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Very good idea guys. Fire ahead ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taoiseach (talk • contribs) 16:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: RUGBY???

message: I was going to do a straight edit, but thought I'd ask opinion first. For starters, Páirc Uí Rinn is completely missed off the list. I also see that Fitzgerald Stadium is listed at 48,000 when the article for it states 39,120. In fact nowhere in the article does it state it ever held 48,00. The closest it gets is there are plans to increase it to 50,000. If we're going by potential capacities, perhaps Páirc Uí Chaoimh should be 60,000 in the Munster article. In it's own article it says originally 50,000, currently 43,500, record 49,961, (however in the Munster article 45,000). It even says it's Munster's third largest behind Semple and Gaelic Grounds. In the list of GAA stadia, we have even different figures.
As someone born and living in England, but with family in Cork and as an honouree Leesider, I feel a little confused and I'm sure others would be too. Perhaps someone a bit more in the know could clean up the numbers and follow through on the other articles for consistency. I would certainly be one who appreciates it. Steve hill4 (talk) 22:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Stadia

message: Is the etymology Celtic, Germanic or Basque? 37.144.53.146 (talk) 10:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology? 

message: As per the hatnote which has been in place since last month, and this IWNB discussion, there are concerns that this article includes content only very loosely related to the subject. Specifically, while there may be valid sub-topics on "Munster History" (eg Kingdom of Munster, Thomond/Desmond split, etc), "Munster Sport" (eg Rugby team, GAA provincial organisation, etc), "Munster Geography" (eg the counties that make up the province), "Munster Irish", etc, it is skirting OR and SYNTH to imply that there is a "Munster Economy" (as distinct from that of the rest of the country, the regions or anything that follows actual provincial bounds). Or indeed no reason to suggest that mining, power-generation, transport or IT companies are somehow managed or organised on a provincial basis. Frankly, they are demonstrably not arranged on this basis, so listing them as such is problematic under WP:SYNTH, WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:LISTN. (While the latter may be intended primarily for stand-alone lists, it is relevant here as list members should have "been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". In this manner, if a "list of airports in Munster" appears nowhere else, then why are we listing them together on Wikipedia - somehow implying that airports are organised or managed on a provincial basis?). Anyway, thoughts are welcome before possibly summarising or removing "stuff that just happens to be in Munster" style content or which otherwise is only very loosely related to the subject. Guliolopez (talk) 20:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Having left it for a few weeks (to see if there were thoughts or suggestions from other editors on approach), I have made a first pass at some of the clean-ups noted above. I have kept my edits discrete by section (to allow clarity on what was changed and why). Happy to discuss any of the changes - before perhaps continuing. Not least I think the Mining and Economy sections need work. In fear of ranting away to myself again, it's not clear to me why a non-administrative subdivision (an almost purely historical, geographic and sometimes cultural/sporting subdivision) has such sections. Such sections are SYNTH magnets. For example, we have a sentence which says that "the province fights off competition from Switzerland and Singapore for investment in pharma". What provincial entity is involved in this "fight"? The IDA isn't organised on provincial lines, so there's no "Munster office" or "Munster chapter" of the IDA "fighting the Swiss". Nor is there a "Munster desk" in Enterprise Ireland. Or a civil servant in the DJEI on trade-missions to drum up investment for Munster as a separate economic/pharma entity. Similarly, why are we talking about mining in the province as if it's a discrete "thing"? Is mining regulated, managed, or structured on provincial lines? Is there a geographic, geological, plate-tectonic or other mining "thing" that correlates even roughly to provincial boundaries - that perhaps means mining in Munster is different from mining elsewhere? If not, I see no reason to treat "Mining in Munster" as a concept with a section. Happy to hear thoughts though before I plough ahead.... Guliolopez (talk) 02:23, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Continue as you are doing. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I've done about as much as I'll do for now. There are still some issues remaining. But at least the "Munster is connected to the rest of Ireland by roads - here's a list of them" type meaninglessness is improved. Guliolopez (talk) 22:35, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope 

message: What is the difference between the names an Mhumhain and Cúige Mumhan? Which one is the official designation? Do they perhaps refer to different things (such as the historical and current province respectively)? And why the Mhumhain/Mumhan spelling difference? /Swedish Wikipedian Genomlysning (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names in Irish