Talk:Whist

message: In Germany we have the phrase "trick 17". The term means "startling problem solving", and many sources say, it is deduced from whist - "best trick of whist". May that be possible? Do "17 tricks" play a special role in this game? --De.Gerbil 22:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My question ist still waiting for an answer... --De.Gerbil 07:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's been a while but here is an answer. There are only 13 tricks available in whist, so there is no trick 17. Wschart (talk) 14:33, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: trick 17 

message: Whist is also frequently mentioned in Leo Tolstoy's The Death of Ivan Ilyich
:The line about House of Mirth is wrong...Lily (with one 'l') plays bridge, not whist.  I commented that line out, it could be moved to the bridge page, if there is a section of literary references.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.252.8 (talk) 20:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: other references

message: Perhaps this is pedantic, but the Whist names and articles seem to be inconsistent in whether the "Whist" which comes after the pre-fix is capitalized or not. What should be the rule for this? PurpleXVI 15:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistent naming

message: I'm removing the advertisement.Z07 12:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertisement

message: This appears to be copied nearly verbatim from http://www.pagat.com/whist/whist.html
Is that permitted?
:D'oh! That was introduced on January 2005, apparently as a verbatim copyvio, and no one has noticed so far. Thanks for pointing this out; it will require a serious purge to fix the problem. Duja► 07:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagarism?

message: Could someone explain rubbers better?  I am a greeat reader of Horatio Hornblower, and rubbers tend to fit significantly into their version of play.
:See Rubber bridge. Duja► 07:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rubbers

message: As someone who read this article to find out how to play whist, I must sadly say I could not understand it. I had to give up once 'tricks' and 'play to the trick' were mentioned. These terms are not explained. I fear the article is only helpful to those who already know about the subject. Can someone clarify it? --83.221.83.76 11:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomprehensible 

message: Revising the Image link from the current setting |200px to |300px widens the infobox enough to display 
:"A K Q J 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2" 
on one line. At the same time it displays the label "Card rank (highest to lowest)" on one line. At Contract bridge the current setting Image |250px is enough to display the ranks on one line, because less space is provided for labels. Someone who knows approved methods for making such adjustments should tinker with Whist, Contract bridge, and Auction bridge, and probably other card games that use Deck: French. --P64 (talk) 23:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox and Image 

message: Is it okay for the technique section to be presented in imperative form?  Does it have references? (There don't seem to be inline references in the section.) Mas2265 (talk) 04:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Basic whist technique" section 

message: The history section contained irrelevant duplicated and conflicting discussion on the origin of Trump, Ruff, Ruff and Honours and the distantly related Escarte making vague arguments about English or French origin which was uncited and belong elsewhere. So I have edited it down. That Whist is descended from Trump and replaced Ruff and Honours is all that would interest people, and all that is really known anyway since the exact forms of Trump, Ruff and Ruff and Honours are all contested and only known from a few literary references. 
Removed statement on history in the introduction, because no one who hasn't studied the history of playing cards would understand it or be interested and it is now covered in the history section where it belongs. 
Added a paragraph on Cavendish on Whist because this is kind of important. 
Added links to Hoyle and Cavendish because there are descent wikipedia article on them.  
Edited text into simple clear language that can be quickly scanned and absorbed by browsers. 
Enjoy :)
Dewatf (talk) 19:56, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: This article claims at the very beginning that it has "enormous scope for scientific play". This has a reference. That's great but what is this phrase supposed to actually mean? Later on it says it was "first played on scientific principles", but again WTF is this supposed to mean? 
The only thing I can imagine it meaning is that it involves particular attention to the use of probability theory, and if so some explanation along those lines would a better way of putting it. If something else is meant can someone please explain?
--Ericjs (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha in the past six years, someone has removed the word "enormous", as if that makes it make sense somehow 05:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Science 

message: It mentions "discarding", but doesn't elaborate. I'm making a wild guess that it's intentionally playing a low card of a different suit, and loosing the trick but getting the low card out of your way so it doesn't loose to a higher card of the same suit in a later trick?.45Colt 23:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  discarding? 

message: In an extremely racist editorial cartoon from 1910, whist is mentioned with the goal of telling Jack Johnson (boxer) that he will soon be on trial / in jail. I have no idea why whist would connote thusly; does anyone know? DS (talk) 13:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Jack Johnson was an African-American boxer in around the 1920's and later.  Being a black boxer at the time was likely to draw attention from unsavory elements in contemporary society.  He was targeted by some due to his for the time revolutionary attitude to racial liberation, to the point he married a white woman, but also chiefly because he usually overcame white boxers. He spent some time in prison presumably because his marriage to a white woman rendered him guilty in some eyes of an offense under the Mann Act.  So, in the cartoon, the references to Whist and other things are most likely a euphemism for intimacy of what was to some extremely taboo.  I suppose.  He was pardoned for his "offense" by Donald Trump a few years ago and many years too late.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.196.161.203 (talk) 03:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology