Talk:Software developer

message: What is that? Google seems to know a lot about it, but wiki doesn't . I'm a developer myself and have never heard about it.
-- Michael Janich (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Jesse60905 20:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, I'm not one to feed the trolls, but I'll respond anyway.  "Don't talk about things you don't know anything about."  Well, being a game programmer for over 15 years, I do think I know a thing or two about software development.  I also worked in Defense for a few years, and the work there wasn't easy either.  At any rate, making a statement about what is "easy" or "hard" is purely subjective and has no place in a Wikipedia article where NPOV rules. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Quantitative Developer

message: has the software developer  all the quality like software tester ,designer ,analyser ,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.223.123 (talk) 06:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: I cannot see how a single man's essay is being used as a definition for for differentiating "developers" and "programmers". Is the difference between programmers and developers  Wikiality or is it reality? Park3r (talk) 07:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric Sink's definition of "developer": is one man's opinion a definition or an opinion?

message: Sorry, but am highly amused to see classic wordsmithing games still current here.  
Some of us know what we do, the rest of you have difficulties with the concepts.  May be trying to glorify selves, or methods, or schools, not sure.
Leave the article alone.  Let it stay.
Programming since 80, C since 84.
Stop walking on eggshells.  Some are just coders, some are Architects like John Galt.  Get over it.  Individual variation drives evolution, baby.
From a scholarly perspective, merely preserving the cultural differences in the definitions of terms is more valuable than your
eventual boring (and likely biassed) concensus.
But, have a nice day.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MajorVariola (talk • contribs) 19:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: LMAO

message: I'm very new here so take this for what it's worth...
I know it would make a big article, but would it be most useful to the reader to combine the best parts from all of these into a single article and redirect all of the current ones to it?
As has been stated, there is no widely accepted delineation between programmer, developer, analyst or software engineer. In any given organization, there's a hierarchy in roughly this order but the titles are more of a way of forcing a rigid structure on something that is really rather fluid. That characteristic is important.
Someone looking for career options or a non-IT manager deciding what title to hang on a new IT position they're creating should understand that, at least at this stage of maturity in the industry, responsibilities tend to follow the work flow and individual skills far more than duty assignments. Programmers develop products, analysts engineer complex systems and all of them write programs.
Hope this contributes something useful to the discussion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertcwatson (talk • contribs) 08:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question: Merge them all? 

message: "In software engineering, it is more common to have the architecture, design, implementation, and test functions performed by a single individual."
Actually, the current status is that few companies hire persons for only "programming", "design" and test separately. You have the title "Software Developer" and do the design (with UML), "programming" based on your own design and run some tests for the use case to cover most of your code and functionality (module testing and coverity). It is rare for an individual software developer to "architect" something. Architecting is for the architects and architects don't have time to execute the individual cluster development (or even design) in any larger company.
The "Software Engineer" is just a buzzword to the HR and a legal term (military, health care). Do not mix it up with medical sciences. Medical sciences are much more structured and much more defined. Medicine is based to the study of the human body, which doesn't change much. On the other hand, software development is based on creativity, tools and processess. I.e. the software developer is creating these "bodies" for others to study so it is not that easy comparison.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.90.60 (talk) 10:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Software Engineer 

message: "This resembles the early phases of industrialization in which individuals would both design and build things."
Actually in practice the total separation of design and development in software R&D is harder than it seems. When you design a bridge, the process is clear. However, when you design a software subsystem, a highly skilled "programmer" might start to see errors in the design in the very early phases.
If we think about Agile development process coupled with strong separation of roles, it might correct some problems in the stiff structure of design and development. However, if we follow the waterfall development process, the "programmers" will happily execute the possibly flawed sketches.
Also in practice you need sketches to model what to be implemented (to save time and effort in the design phase). If you need sketches you also need highly skilled "programmers" how are capable of deep abstract thinking (if you want them to correct the flaws). If you document in too structured way (the waterfall, i.e. bridge designer), you might as well not document it as the code with good comments will be better than the hundreds of pages of code in pictures.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.90.60 (talk) 11:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Mechanical engineering, civil engineering, and electrical engineering all require a much greater degree of pre and post activity than that demanded of a software engineer (e.g., no need for additional physical materials or components). That's the reason software engineering is more role-inclusive than the other more "mature" engieering disciplines. 111.69.153.228 (talk) 12:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separation 

message: Has anyone considered adding discussion of the lack of unity within the development community? There are growing numbers of local organizations to try and unite developers, but very few on the national level... I find it worth a conversation with all of the privacy conversation right now surrounding apps and no unifying voice to represent them.Wikime720 (talk) 19:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Community/Union/Trade Association 

message: Hi,
I find about this article that the introduction is too long. I can't change it because my level of English is pretty poor.
Cordially,  82.224.165.208 (talk) 15:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  About writing 

message: Trouble AmanThakur054 (talk) 14:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to code? 

message: A social animal how do we tell others about ourselves?
That was easy (muscle) or that was easy (Mind) 
See how I mixed upper and lower case there?
Engineer or designer 
You will find software shares more with stage paint than with cast-iron bridges 
Windows 3.11 will fade to KDE 3, AWK to perl, BASIC to Python (2 & 3) etc
Stage paint, so much more powerful than steel!
88.144.43.154 (talk) 01:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human interaction, animal hierarchy  

message: Job Nyaki Gilbert jr (talk) 11:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  works  

message: I think the article since there is no disambiguation page, should indicate when the term Software Developer change from one who develops software to a Programmer.  One who develops software can be a company such as Nintendo or an Individual like David Braben who creates software (the entire solution)... where as a programmer typically is an individual (which might be an employee).
Job ZhuLien (talk) 13:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Software Developer being a Programmer vs Being one who Develops Software 

message: Tekken3 42.0.6.235 (talk) 14:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  While playing game usually usu to stop suddenly or not working properly