Help talk:Archiving a talk page

message: In the lead we say 
Archiving one's own user talk page is optional; some users simply blank the page, as the history is kept available for future reference, but this is not considered the best practice (as it makes things more difficult to find and link). For this specific case, the use of "permalinks" can provide an easy way to display an archived view of a talk page at a given moment, though there's no control on thread organization or presentation. Removal of content from your user talk page, such as warnings posted by others, is considered evidence you have seen the content; this is true whether the removal was manual or automatic. (emph mine)
This isn't making sense to me -- is the bolded sentence actually specifically about user talk pages? Valereee (talk) 14:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed that sentence. It was added in May 2010 and is a holdover from when this page listed multiple procedures, including permalinking, before this 2012 RFC. When permalinking was used it was most common historically on the village pump pages (see the "old series" archive links at Wikipedia:Village pump archive) and user talk pages. Graham87 16:23, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: +1 Valereee (talk) 16:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  lead 

message: From here, I pasted this: 

 at Talk:Derek_Williams_(musician) over the weekend, below all the curly bracket info at the top of the page, and according to the article above, the archiving should have kicked in within a couple of days. The bot has worked elswhere I have used it. Any suggestions as to why this is not working? Chrisdevelop (talk) 14:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the parameters of the  template it created, it has |minkeepthreads = 5 - this means the bot will always leave at least 5 threads (header level 2 sections) on the page before it attempts to archive any, and Talk:Derek Williams (musician) is currently sitting at just 3, so the bot won't attempt to archive any threads right now. Aidan9382 (talk) 14:25, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! As the threads are very long and very old, I have reduced to 3 to see if that cleans up the talk bloat. Chrisdevelop (talk) 15:31, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That won't help because there are only three threads on that page. The threads aren't *that* long or old compared to many threads on other Wikipedia talk pages; I wouldn't have set up archiving on that page, to be honest. Graham87 (talk) 03:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  How long before the bot kicks in? 

message: The Wikipedia:Featured articles process appears to regularly use pagenames of the form Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/<Article name>/archiveN for active, ongoing discussion. I raised a discussion about this, and your feedback would be welcome at WT:Featured article candidates#Use of 'archiveN' as subpage name for active, non-archival page. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 18:52, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feedback requested: use of 'archiveN' as subpage name for active, non-archival page 

message: Please see this discussion about a proposal to enable archiving of level-two discussions at a page (like WP:Help desk) that uses level-one headings to group atomic discussions by date. Mathglot (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feedback: Archiving in the context of a page that uses level-one headings as dividers 

message: I.e. "where N is the lowest number for which no archive exists." under Manual archiving. Ybllaw (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Normally archives will begin at 1, so /Archive 1, /Archive 2, etc. If there's no archives, you'll want to start at 1. Aidan9382 (talk) 18:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear whether "lowest number" means 0 or 1