Talk:Commonwealth Saga

message: I have seen a lot of talk about these books involved in a computer game called Prime - can any one back this up?
What is this game?  Are there any screen shots?  Culverin?  Talk  00:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Game

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thread_title:  Note to anyone intending on splitting off a section 

message: I have read this page many times, and i see not problem.  please inform me of the promblem or your views as i think the template should be taken away.  Also maybe some more work can be done on this page.  like character description or more information on the commonwealth.
PS.  In the story how do these silfen paths take you to other planets, even earth!.  how is this possible?
:"The Commonwealth Saga represents a subtle maturing in Hamilton's prose style and restricts his tendency to infodump in long streams of exposition, which occasionally surfaced in Night's Dawn. It also has a leisurely pace, drawing the Intersolar Commonwealth in impressive detail, rivalling if not exceeding the detail of the Confederation in Night's Dawn. Conversely, the characters are perhaps not as memorable, not helped by lots of them being extremely rich, politically influential people who have lived for centuries." - All of this is pretty much non-neutral POV and requires a bit of work to clean up. I'll look into it when I have some time. The Silfen Paths are probably a derivation of wormhole technology which are not limited by the quantum interference set up by the barrier; or possibly an SF plot device that doesn't bear up to close scrutiny ;-) --Werthead 00:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is this page not neutral? 

message: I think this article has a lot of potential to be a featured article and can be.  Who's with me? Culverin?  Talk  01:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would have been, but now, and thanks to this god-forsaken angry editor who thinks he's god, this article is worth nothing anymore.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.92.7.68 (talk) 05:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  featured 

message: Due to some inaccurate information I've edited large parts of the document, below are the main changes and reasons why:
* Background Precepts reverted to Technological Precepts due to the nature of the section referring to the technology in the novels rather than simply the background.
* Edited the information on rejuvenation to give a more accurate description based on the information provided in the novels.
* Changed some information on re-lifing due to inaccuracies.
* Details on the cybersphere/unisphere connection amended as appropriate.
* OC Tattoes seperated as they are a seperate form of technology.
* Silfen information edited:
**No information is given in the Commonwealth Saga to confirm the claims that they "use their highly developed mental abilities to travel on Paths", so removed incorrect information.
**There is no explanation in the novels of how the paths are travelled, only a mention at the end that Ozzie and Orion are aware of the paths and where they may lead.
**Removed the reference to no proof of humans travelling the paths (that's what happens in the novel..).
**Also removed information about the Silfen blocking technology with their mental powers as this is never stated in the books.  The reason for the technology not working is never fully explained.
* Removed details about the sequel trilogy.  Even though it is set in the same universe, it will not be part of the Commonwealth Saga.
chitman13 16:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  Culverin?  Talk  11:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Thank you MauricioRaul (talk) 21:11, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate Information 

message: I have restructured the article to what I feel is a more logical order, but I cant seem to figure out how to add bulletpoints to the technology section, without having the whole article gaining them. Only same of the paragraphs need them. Also I feel that "Technological Precepts" could be better renamed, perhaps to "Technology used in the Commonwealth Saga" Cronium 11:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructuring 

message: Shouldn't there be a Hancher mention in the Races section of the article? According to the timeline connecting with the Void trilogy Tochee is a Hancher. SouperAwesome 02:43, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hancher 

message: I have copy edited as far as 'intersolar dynasties'. If anyone wants to check over my edits for factual accuracy/canon, please do so as I am not an expert on this universe. I'm about to start on 'Intersolar dynasties' although this part of the article looks like it shouldn't need too much work.  --carelesshx talk 01:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy editing 

message: The Korrok-hi are a large furry alien encountered by Ozzie Isaacs while stuck on the frozen Silfen world. They are roughly eight feet tall and covered with the fluffy fur with wide dark eyes visible at the top. It is not possible to see whether they have legs. They communicate by making a loud chant-like hooting noise. The Korrok-hi are very suited to the cold world on which they are located.
I have removed this section from the article as after copy-editing it ends up too short to warrant inclusion in the article. If these aliens play an important part in the narrative, please expand this section before putting it back in the article   --carelesshx talk 13:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korrok-Hi 

message: Over the last couple of edits, the page has lost a lot of information on races in the Commonwealth universe.  For example, searching for barsoomians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=barsoomians&go=Go) yields minimal results, with nothing relating to the race told about in this series.  The page needs to be edited to include that information again, or another page needs to be made, but either way, editing a page and ending up with less information is surely not a goal of Wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.62.75 (talk) 01:47, August 26, 2007 (UTC) 
:With that I do agree, but we're on Wikipedia, and this this the risk with multiple editors who don't share the same opinion. 160.92.7.69 15:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll put a version in place sometime over the next few days including some artist’s impressions by Marcello D'Atitlia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amckern (talk • contribs) 05:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Races Info 

message: This seems to be a common mistake for both The Commonwealth and Void books. Tor are listed as the US publishers on several websites for no reason that I can see. However, Del Rey are the actual publishers of the US edition. I've changed the infoboxes to the correct information and inserted page counts.--Werthead 13:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tor didn't publish the US edition 

message: The OR tag for Technological Concepts is there because claims of notability or standing-out-edness need citations from third-party sources (likely reviewers) rather than fans' own interpretations. Examples include the Silfen being "most prominent" of the alien species", the Commonwealth Saga being "markedly" different from Hamilton's other works, train/wormhole travel being "considered similar to commuting" (considered by whom?), the SI's motivations being "unclear" (maybe reader John Smith thinks they're perfectly clear), hypothesizing that the SI's actions are "Perhaps due to its isolation." Additionally, in-universe generalizations like "people tend to shake off the responsibilities of their previous life" need to be cited to a particular character's dialog, or the phrasing changed from a generalization about the rejuvenation-undergoing populace to a statement about characters in the text. In general, this section really just seems like a bunch of plot regurgitation; this article is sorely lacking in any sort of reference to third-party reviews and commentary -- some of which more-interested editors can find at the AfD for the Dyson Aliens. --EEMIV (talk) 22:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read the book ? Alex Pankratov (talk) 22:56, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR tag and other problems 

message: The material on aliens in the text is excessive plot summary -- padded with original research and speculation -- that doesn't meet the WP:WAF guidelines. I have removed it again. Please make a compelling argument for inclusion before restoring it. --EEMIV (talk) 16:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing 10K about aliens 

message: I'm removing this section. It's uncited and indiscriminate plot trivia, and it's more appropriate anyhow for the corresponding Fandom/wiki section. --EEMIV (talk) 19:06, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technology concepts section