Talk:Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives

message: What about the deleted scenes?  I know it's very impractical for Paramount to release us the uncut version, but at least the deleted scenes should be mentioned.
--ChuckDizzle 19:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Scenes 

message: Seems to me that this article could use tweaking - it reads a little too much like it was written by a fan -but I don't see that it deserves the POV tag.--Qball6 04:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you meant to use the {tone} tag. I'll add it. mwazzap 05:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I removed that quote.  One article cited referred to him as such, but not in relation to this film in particular (and it's an invalid use of the term, either way) - the point of the quote was to emphasize the real start of his utter and complete immortality due to his first resurrection of many.  And the section cited two other articles as well, none of which had anything to do with the statement!  Well, unless you count the phrases "I was rooting for him" and "This was the film where audiences finally began to cheer for Jason Voorhees" which just mean people watch this type of film to see the villain kill. Well, unless you think all teenagers, policemen, and paintballers are evil and need to be stopped by whatever means necessary! That's the only way Jason would fit the term anti-hero.  Indium 00:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It shouldn't state that. First, "Zombie" isn't even a correct term, so that shouldn't be used anyway. This is the first movie where he is officially resurrected, and that's all it needs to say really.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 04:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (The first statement was mine) I think that whoever used the word zombie was actually meaning "undead."  Undead is true by definition, but puts a unnecessary label on the character. So I do agree with you. The line in the plot that accompanies the "zombie" statement says "Now more unstoppable than ever (this is the fourth film where Jason is a zombie), Jason moves on a killing spree..." This line sounds a bit off as far as encyclopedias go. Think it should be reworded? Something like "Now stronger and less vulnerable than before, Jason moves on a killing spree..." Thoughts? 98.215.128.112 (talk) 07:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking along the same lines. I have changed it to this:"Now even more powerful than before, Jason travels back to Crystal Lake—renamed Forest Green to disassociate itself with Jason and his murderous past at Crystal Lake—killing everyone he meets along the way."   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 11:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that sounds much better. Thank you. But, do you think that it may be notable to mention somewhere in the article that this is the first movie where he is resurrected/undead possibly attributing to his new found powers? As a comic book hero fan, I find it interesting to read about powers of an individual and the origin of those powers. I am not sure, but I believe it is mentioned in the actual Jason article. However, since this is the movie where it happened, maybe it should me reiterated here. Maybe there could be a section in this article (and in other movies' articles) where it discusses the evolution of the character seeing as it's a common subject amongst fans and critics. Like a "Changes made to Jason" section. You seem to be better at wording things and obviously know more about wiki editing than me, so what do you think? 98.215.128.112 (talk) 17:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I think it's mentioned there, but we'd have to figure out how to work into into a relevant section here. It isn't like the changes in the remake, where they revamped the character almost entirely. If you want, you can simply copy and past what's in the character article (include the source listed) and just put it under "Production" for now.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 22:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

text: No, it should simply be in quotations to indicate that it is what Tommy specifically says/believes.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 18:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's supposed to be what Tommy says, it should just be in quotation marks. We cannot adjust what he says just because it's not accurate. To him, Jason drowned as a boy. Per continuity, he didn't.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 18:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: POV?

message: How is Jason the Anti-Hero? He still kills people just as murderous as the other ones! What the hell? Remove that! A.P. 19:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed that quote.  One article cited referred to him as such, but not in relation to this film in particular (and it's an invalid use of the term, either way) - the point of the quote was to emphasize the real start of his utter and complete immortality due to his first resurrection of many.  And the section cited two other articles as well, none of which had anything to do with the statement!  Well, unless you count the phrases "I was rooting for him" and "This was the film where audiences finally began to cheer for Jason Voorhees" which just mean people watch this type of film to see the villain kill. Well, unless you think all teenagers, policemen, and paintballers are evil and need to be stopped by whatever means necessary! That's the only way Jason would fit the term anti-hero.  Indium 00:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-Hero?

message: I have a question about the line in the article that says this is the forth movie where Jason is a zombie. Jason was not featured in the first movie, was said to have "survived" the second, third and fourth movies (here on wikipedia), and he wasn't in the fifth movie, so according to the other wikipedia articles, this would be the first movie where he is obviously an undead.
:It shouldn't state that. First, "Zombie" isn't even a correct term, so that shouldn't be used anyway. This is the first movie where he is officially resurrected, and that's all it needs to say really.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 04:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (The first statement was mine) I think that whoever used the word zombie was actually meaning "undead."  Undead is true by definition, but puts a unnecessary label on the character. So I do agree with you. The line in the plot that accompanies the "zombie" statement says "Now more unstoppable than ever (this is the fourth film where Jason is a zombie), Jason moves on a killing spree..." This line sounds a bit off as far as encyclopedias go. Think it should be reworded? Something like "Now stronger and less vulnerable than before, Jason moves on a killing spree..." Thoughts? 98.215.128.112 (talk) 07:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking along the same lines. I have changed it to this:"Now even more powerful than before, Jason travels back to Crystal Lake—renamed Forest Green to disassociate itself with Jason and his murderous past at Crystal Lake—killing everyone he meets along the way."   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 11:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that sounds much better. Thank you. But, do you think that it may be notable to mention somewhere in the article that this is the first movie where he is resurrected/undead possibly attributing to his new found powers? As a comic book hero fan, I find it interesting to read about powers of an individual and the origin of those powers. I am not sure, but I believe it is mentioned in the actual Jason article. However, since this is the movie where it happened, maybe it should me reiterated here. Maybe there could be a section in this article (and in other movies' articles) where it discusses the evolution of the character seeing as it's a common subject amongst fans and critics. Like a "Changes made to Jason" section. You seem to be better at wording things and obviously know more about wiki editing than me, so what do you think? 98.215.128.112 (talk) 17:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I think it's mentioned there, but we'd have to figure out how to work into into a relevant section here. It isn't like the changes in the remake, where they revamped the character almost entirely. If you want, you can simply copy and past what's in the character article (include the source listed) and just put it under "Production" for now.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 22:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

text: No, it should simply be in quotations to indicate that it is what Tommy specifically says/believes.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 18:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's supposed to be what Tommy says, it should just be in quotation marks. We cannot adjust what he says just because it's not accurate. To him, Jason drowned as a boy. Per continuity, he didn't.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 18:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th movie as a zombie? 

message: No idea if this was possibly a deleted scene added back in later or what, but I just watched the first five minutes of the movie on tv and a woman primps for a date in the bathroom of the restaurant where she is a waitress.  We see her breasts when she removes her shirt.  It is more than just a glance, it is an eyeful.  Definitely seems to contradict the claim that this film is notable as the only film in the series without nudity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.175.254.73 (talk) 09:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No nudity?  Not so 

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