Talk:Penguin (character)

message: The subsection detailing the character's appearance in Gotham is getting too large. Might I suggest narrowing it down to a couple of sentences, a synopsis of the character's role in the show rather than a detailed analysis of every single thing he does in the show? Treybien (talk) 18:35 29 October 2014
I agree, all of the characters from Gotham appear to need a cleanup in this regard, it's just getting out of hand. Might I suggest we start creating actual pages for the Gotham versions if people insist on a complete summary.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.69.2.64 (talk) 04:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Gotham'' section

message: I have it on fair authority that Burgess Meredith smoked like a chimney for decades before Batman, so surely that isn't the reason he cough-laughed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.245.29.229 (talk • contribs) 00:36 17 August 2005  (UTC)
So? It's also a well documented fact that Meredith also created a special type of laugh for the Penguin which was meant to sound similar to an actual penguin call.--70.1.154.194 00:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meredith's Cough-laugh 

message: the link at the bottom (The Penguin's Personal Website) appears to be a, while quite possibly well intended and an enthusiastic show of fandom, vanity page. I'd remove it; but there's always the chance someone knows something that I don't. So would the contributor who added it please give an arugment why it should stay (and make this clear on the article itself), lest it be deleted and written off as a personal link? MardukZero 04:44, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan site? 

message: Uhhh... nice article picture, guys. Nothing suggestive there... *shudder* 142.161.198.239 06:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice picture 

message: Could someone please explain the value of the "Olyblog" link currently part of this article? Chris Griswold 18:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: The separate bibliography page for the Penguin has been nominated for deletion. If you care one way or the other, vote here. GentlemanGhost 05:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD Bibliography 

message: Added 2 sentences about how some of the Penguin's appearance in Returns was adapted to the comics (ie, his flipper hands). Thought it was lacking. --Switch 13:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted it out., that information was already included in the cartoons section. It hasn't particularly appeared in any canonical comics, and his official appearance still has five fingers.ThuranX 20:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Returns -> Comics 

message: Would anyone mind if I switched the current article picture of Penguin riding some weird bird for something a bit more realistic like this?
Not to cause a "DP shuffle" or anything, just to replace the comic cover of him riding the giant ugly bird.
JackOfHearts 22:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penguin pic 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:TB-P.JPG

message: The introduction states that the Penguin does not theme his crimes around a psychotic obsession, but the biography (first paragraph) states that he commits crimes "with the theme of the various birds he loves".  Although a literal reading does not imply a contradiction, a less stringent reading does indicate a contradiction.  This may need some clarification.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iain marcuson (talk • contribs) 06:15, August 25, 2007 (UTC) 
:Given that the bio reflects a post crisis on infinite earths version, I've removed the sentence, as his 'nightclub owner with underword connections' characteristics are what readers now seee, not the golden/silver age bird themed thief. ThuranX 06:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Contradiction 

message: does anyone know of a website that has a wide variety of Batman layouts?  I'm looking for one of the Danny DeVito Penguin  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.132.245 (talk) 03:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MySpace Profile Layouts 

message: A section should be added. I can only think of one example, which is an episode of Cowboy Bebop where a criminal is extremely similar to Penguin, but I'm not really a fan of Batman, so there are probably a lot more. I couldn't make it because I only have one example. So, yeah, a "In Popular Culture" section should be added here, please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.182.30 (talk) 01:00, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it certainly should not. First, you're speaking of a WP:OR violation, assuming two characters are related or connected. Second ,that's not popular culture at all. Third, such sections are typically frowned upon unless substantially built of Real World material. If you could find an interview with the Cowboy Bebop creators stating that they INTENDED a comparison, then it would matter. Otherwise, no. ThuranX (talk) 04:55, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture 

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thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: Why do people keep changing it? The Penguin Man is his real name!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aqs34 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Penguin Man

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thread_title: C-Class rated for Comics Project

message: Wikipedia guidelines (a little help pointing out the exact one, here) often expects the articles to talk about the theme's influence and cultural perceptions. That's why we often include sections about critical and public reception and references in popular culture, because it's a way to determine how impacting can a character, title, tv show, personality, etc. be.
Among all the comic book characters, just like Lex Luthor is often used an archetype of the egotistical mad scientist supervillain (like when Jon Stewart included him as part of Obama's "team of enemies", the Penguin is the archetype of evil, pompuos and ridiculous supervillain. Therefore, they have always been used a theme to mock people who share their trademark.
As the gathered examples put in evidence, the Penguin, compared to most supervillains, the penguin is a recurring theme in comedy. I think we should research some good sources to explore this unique aspect. --20-dude (talk) 09:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The penguin as mocking theme 

message: The line in the article about Shreck's dialogue meaning he was going to tempt Penguin with fried fish is wrong. Shreck said, before going to lure Penguin to run for mayor, that he had bigger fish to fry. Meaning he had more important matters to attend to. In the scene he had said it in he had been talking to his son about killing Selena Kyle a second time if she tried blackmailing him. Then he left saying he had bigger fish to fry. In the next scene it's clear he plans to use Penguin as a puppet mayor, that was his more important matters, convince Penguin to run for mayor so he could control Gotham from behind the scenes. He never meant he was going to go fry fish for him, he was using a slang term. -annonymous 1/10/2013 4:45 AM EST  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.71.217.116 (talk) 09:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shreck's dialogue in Batman Returns 

message: I'm not saying it's a lie, and it's obvious he's pretty intelligent, but we don't see him (and Joker) creating things like Doctor Doom, Lex Luthor or Mister Freeze, or elaborating plans like Ra's Al Ghul.
:He's been said to have genius intellect through official sources, and that's all that matters. How his intelligence compares to other supervillains is irrelevant. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 17:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is mentioned in some other reliable sources (which are in the list of references for this article, which you could have checked), and easily observed just by reading some of the stories he appears in. It is as simple as that. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 01:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Genius intellect?

message: Can someone include a reference to Oswald Cobblepot on Gotham as portrayed by Robin Lord Taylor? it's a very different portrayal than Penguin has ever been portrayed and I think it should be included.
Thepoodlechef (talk) 18:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gotham reference, picture? 

message: I think I recall seeing on a VHS box for Batman:  TAS that his full name is Oswald Chesterfiled Cobblepot III?  Is there any other source that he is the III?  Emperor001 (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Oswald III?

message: Was this ever his name in Gotham prior to his mom English-ifying her name? 184.145.18.50 (talk) 12:53, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Kapelput

message: Not sufficiently notable on itself, merge to the character most associated with it. Killer Moff (talk) 12:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Iceberg Lounge]] 

message: I'm not sure that it's appropriate to list Penguin as an 'LGBT character"; he's not at all in the LGBT spectrum in the comics, and Robin Lord Taylor has said that he does not consider the character to be "gay per se". Thoughts? Treybien (talk) 18:51 9 February 2017 (UTC)
:Oswald is in love with another man, and Robin has referred to the storyline as queer representation. --DrBat (talk) 02:40, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: LGBT character listing

message: :
Rephrase that?  A tuxedo is a tailless dinner jacket. —Tamfang (talk) 22:54, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  jacket types 

message: How were his origins "aristocratic" if his mother owned a bird shop?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.70.121 (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins