Talk:Charmstone

message: Don't see a need for this separate from Crystal healing.  There's nothing here, anyway, to distinguish the two.  Suggest a redirect.  Kbh3rd 18:08, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they are sufficiently different (even if both are complete baloney) for different articles. I've tweaked Crystal healing a bit, and will work on this one, too. - DavidWBrooks 19:00, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: definately agree. no merge should occur. Anlace 22:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The article seems oddly focused on crystals, though.  A quick Google search for "charmstones" makes it clear that traditional charmstone practices weren't about lumps of uncut quartz as this article's illustration suggests.  Furthermore, the article's attempts to connect the word "charmstone" to Chakras and New Age crystal healing seems completely inappropriate to the usual meaning of the word.  The sources I'm finding talk about it as a phenomenon limited to pre-Columbian northern California, with either hazy or completely unknown purposes. 159.53.110.142 15:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: old material

message: pseudoscientific quack therapy?  Never on Wikipedia was a POV more appropriate... Beerathon 11:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never? I suppose it is possible that this will turn into another scholastic debate about who is right and wrong, who beleives and who does not. I find the double entendre pseudoscientific AND quack therapy to be highly offensive to my sensibilities. I suppose the term 'baseless pseudoscientific New Age quack therapy nonsense' would bolster the ever so subtle message to STAY AWAY from the crystal healers! I am going to remove quack therapy from the article... the word pseudoscientific (meaning false) is enough...  Come on guys... some people derive great benefit from using crystals, even if you dont believe it works. Even if you may deem it to have a placebo effect, some people still believe crystal therapy is useful. This article is listed under the Metaphysics section; it is how I found it. So some metaphysical discussion is certainly in order here.Drakonicon 14:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

text: One Crystal Power 'legend' I know of comes from Edgar Cayce's talk of the Tuaoi Stone in Atlantis. Check that out.Drakonicon 14:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: Do we have to label Ian Plimer a skeptic? I think that 'a debate between a Professor of Geology and a Crystal Healing Practioner' is enough information for the reader to see that a dichotomy of opinion about crystals is taking place at that link.Drakonicon 14:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Skepticism, Geology and Crystals

message: The sentence "This belief has been part of several indigenous cultures for centuries." was added to the first paragraph.  I think a scholarly citation would be appropritate here, although I was tempted to remove the sentence entirely.  I am not sure "indigenous" is a useful term here, since there is no reference to a geographical location.  --TeaDrinker 01:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indigenous 

message: I just reverted to remove a section titled "how it works" from the text.  It is the second time this section was removed (although the fist time was not by me).  I think this is pretty clearly original research.  If it is the primary, or a primary belief of the crystal power proponents, then it probably should be discussed in the article, re-worded however in a neutral manner.  Thoughts? --TeaDrinker 03:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "How it works" 

message: a better name for this article might be Healing stone or Charmstone; this would also encourage the tilt of the article to a more scholarly bent to discuss the long history of this concept by prehistoric North American and probably other world regions. Anlace 05:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good - fully support the name change and focus. Vsmith 03:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Changing the article's name from "Crystal power" to "Charmstones" may be a little ill-advised.  While Charmstones are a very worthwhile topic, they are actually a very different topic from what is being discussed here.  This article needs a complete overhaul to meet its new mandate. 159.53.46.141 17:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: to the above anon user: please create an account if you really wish to contribute to a discussion like this.  its hard to take seriously the IP address which has consistently engaged in vandalism.  also you are free to create more aricles on crystals if you feel they are underrepresented on wikipedia.  we already have some though.  Anlace 15:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer to remain anonymous, and consider that option to be one of the greatest strengths of Wikipedia.  (It's not a big, weird, personal thing; I'd just prefer not to have to worry about building and maintaining a community reputation.)  As for creating new crystal-related articles, my point is actually quite to the contrary: I would like to see the crystal content removed from this article, and replaced with information that actually pertains to charmstones.  The prehistoric tradition isn't really related to New Age crystal use in any way that I can see.  159.53.46.141 20:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: suggested name change

message: An anon added some tags to the criticism section.  While I can certainly understand, and concur with, the need to add more citations to the article, I really don't understand how "skeptic" or "crystal healing practicioner" could be taken as weasel words, or what could be used in their place.  I don't see other indications of weasel words in the article, and since there is no discussion here, I am removing the tags.  I have added one ref, but will try to get to the others when I get a chance.  Further thoughts or clarifications? --TeaDrinker 07:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel words 

message: I've redone this article to concern the artifact. Mangoe (talk) 20:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Rework as archaeology

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