Talk:Ioan Gruffudd/Archive 1

message: Don't get me wrong, I think he's a great actor, and I love his movies, but I'd hardly say he starred in Blackhawk Down.  His character was only around for the first part of the movie, before being sent home after suffering a siezure from epilepsy before the battle started.--Raguleader 04:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ioan Gruffudd starred in Blackhawk Down? 

message: The photograph that currently accompanies this article has been identified as not complying with Wikipedia's fair use policy, and is likely to be deleted. I notice that there are quite a number of fan photos on the Ioanonline.com website (which is due to close on 30 April 2007) – see http://www.ioanonline.com/index.php?set_albumName=album104&name=gallery&include=view_album.php. Would some Gruffudd fans who own these photographs please upload them on to the Wikimedia Commons and add them to this article? Cheers, Jacklee 20:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright-free photographs of Gruffudd? 

message: I've removed the following quotations from the article and parked them here temporarily. They lack context and their sources are either not stated or incompletely stated. If this information can be provided, it may be possible to include them in the article.
*"When I saw a billboard on Sunset Strip I parked the car, ran out, took a picture of it, then emailed it to all my friends."
**What sort of billboard was he looking at – one of himself?
*"The change is that suddenly everybody wants to meet me. That's happened overnight just because I'm in a big film – and it hasn't even come out yet. You have to enjoy and exploit that. I'm happy to do that because I know it's a game. Once you start believing it's real, you're lost."
**What "big film" was Gruffudd referring to?
*"It's incredible, and I'm so appreciative of the lifestyle that I have. It's really fun to be able to work at doing my hobby, and be able to earn money doing it."
*"I was still virgin at 22. I'm not embarrassed about that at all, but I've certainly made up for it."
*"I'm one of those people who'll suppress things and suppress things. Then one day, bang! The fuse will blow and I'll start hitting inanimate object.": The Things They Say March 2007.
* "I think it's tarty. Personally, I enjoy the elegance and mystery of a woman."Gruffudd on women who dress inappropriately and don't act in a more responsible manner, article Hilton and Spears are bad role models July 2005
*"I have to wear an all-in-one blue spandex costume but I want them to add fake muscles.": Gruffudd, on wanting fake muscles so he didn't have to work out for Fantastic Four, article Gruffudd Wants Fake Muscles July 2004.
*"I was upset. When I read the script I was like, 'Fantastic, where's the romance bit? Oh, there isn't one.'": Gruffudd on how disappointed he was to find out he would not have a love scene with Kiera Knightely in King Arthur, article July 2004.
*"I would say to all other British actors: 'Please don't tell me that you haven't once stood in front of the mirror and quoted SCARFACE or THE GODFATHER, or made your Oscar speech!' The only different with me is that I admitted it. I said I wanted it, and I broke the taboo.": Gruffudd talking about British actors who are anti-Hollywood, article, Gruffudd Dismisses Anti-Hollywood Brits March 2007.
The "Quotations" section has been removed. I would suggest that it not be recreated as the use of such a section is now deprecated (see "Wikipedia:Guide to layout#Quotations") as it encourages editors to simply add more quotations to the section rather than trying to incorporate the information into the article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I urge editors to consider creating a Wikiquote article on 
Ioan Gruffudd for the quotations instead.
Cheers, Jacklee 22:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gruffudd's quotations 

message: When I heard him talk in an interview about Fantastic Four 2, it sounded like he had an accent, which is not the same when he is filming FF2. Should it be noted that he has to talk in a way for a movie without using his accent?
**It's sometimes hard to shake an accent once you've started using it.
:Most actors use accents in their movies which are not their own, there is absolutely nothing unusual in this. -- Arwel (talk) 06:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accent 

message: The Hornblower series is well known, don't get me wrong, but is it really the role he's best known for now?  Personally, I know him best for King Arthur, but I'd think being one of the title characters in two Fantastic Four movies might deserve the most credit. Hornblower was made-for-TV after all. JeffHCross 18:58, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose phrases like "best known for" are always subjective. The Hornblower series was the first set of films in which I saw Gruffudd appear. Perhaps you can think of a way to rephrase it without removing entirely the reference to the Hornblower series, which is probably well-known to audiences in the United Kingdom. Cheers, Jacklee 20:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Best known for"

message: Is it right that people criticize Ioan's fiance when they don't even know her?  I mean, for all we know she could be a cheery Mary Poppins lass.  'I beleive if they love eachother, leave it be.'  
Matholwch 05:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leave well enough alone 

message: An editor has amended the article to state that Alice Evans "falsely claimed that a moderator from Ioanonline was sending her death threats, although there is no evidence to support her claim". I am going to edit this to "claimed that a moderator from Ioanonline was sending her death threats, although there does not seem to be any evidence to support her claim", for the following reasons:
#The suggestion that Evans made her claim "falsely" is potentially defamatory because it suggests that she made the claim knowing it was not true, and there is nothing to indicate that this was so.
#The suggestion that there was "no evidence" that Evans was receiving death threats is not backed up by any references.
If you have any different views, do discuss them here.
Cheers, Jacklee 22:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have this article on my watchlist after disambiguating something trivial a while ago. Nearly every time I log in I see changes, so I have sat down and read the history and the talk now. I know who Ioan Gruffudd is and vaguely what he's been in, but don't particularly follow his career. And I have to say that I am at a complete loss to understand why any of this "pulled plug on bulletin board" stuff is remotely encyclopedic. A big deal for people who used the bulletin board, perhaps, but for anyone else? Nearly every incarnation of that section involves "s/he said", "it is claimed" or "apparently", and however carefully people word it, it continually seems to suggest that Alice Evans is at fault somehow, for something, just because her name is mentioned in connection with it. (I apologise to the people who have tried to restrain the language used for saying that, but I hope they see what I mean.) I realise that WP:LIVING is for article subjects, but the points about being conservative and understated presumably apply to mentions of others too. Given the size of the article, even by mentioning this at all, it is giving a lot of weight to it. (WP:NPOV#Undue_weight) Is there a reason to keep any of it in? Telsa (talk) 18:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ioanonline controversy again: Claims about Alice Evans 

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