Talk:Miletus

message: The Introduction is way too long. I'm thinking of moving it to history. Student7 (talk) 03:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are two theories of intros, one long and one short. I'm definitely against very short intros, so don't do that. The intro summarizes what is said in the article. We are just getting started on this article. It will I predict be of intermediate length. Miletus was of some importance and it was one of the older cities on earth. Much of what you see there now, except what I wrote, was basically fill-in and was never intended to be the final article. The author did not even use a notes section. I do not know why it never acquired the appropriate warning template. In any case I can't say I know exactly where to stand on the length of the intro. It depends I suppose on the final content. What do you think is important to say up front? You are welcome to take a shot at it, but you may want to wait a bit longer - notice that I did not start with this intro. I will be glad to cooperate as long as you prove cooperative but I must correct what is wrong. To me a slanted or incorrect article is worse than no good, as it misleads, and on Wikipedia, sometimes very badly indeed.Dave (talk) 11:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS If you rewrite what is in the intro don't move it to history as it is already going to be covered there. Just delete it or rework it unless deletion would lose information; in that case, the information that would have been lost can be moved.Dave (talk) 11:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I like short intros: "Hi, this is Miletus. It's in Turkey." Next section. Okay, a little bit longer than that. What is was when it was important but briefly. Details about history should be in history (which is missing there BTW). Student7 (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I can't say that I have a compelling opinion except to express a preference for an intermediate length so the reader does not have to read the whole article to find out what it is about. This a subjective feeling based on experience.Dave (talk) 16:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: In Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe (pg. 238) it is suggested that the ethnically greek of Miletus, to this day, maintain the tradition where the women do not eat with their husbands, nor do they address their husbands by name.  It is purported that this is a tradition of womenfolk not forgiving the menfolk for the atrocities committed by their male ancestors.  Is this true?  And, is it worth a mention, either way? 76.111.80.228 (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What of the legend of the Milesian women's grudge?

message: An edit changed the date of conquest to "the 14th century" from "the 12th century." There are a few problems with this. One is I can't find any independent source online that confirms anything about Miletus and the Seljuk Turks! Next, is the fact that the Seljuk Turk dynasty came to an end in 1307, just barely into the 14th century. It is a bit misleading, assuming this was the last place they ever conquered, to use a century rather than the actual date. We really need a footnote here. Student7 (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Seljuk Turks