Talk:University of St. Michael's College

message: A bitter sounding article. Written by an unhappy former St.Mike's student
perhaps? It presents such a negative view of what is not such a bad
institution.
For example, have the admission standards to St.Mike's really fallen?  
After all, to be in St. Mike's you have to also get into the University of
Toronto.  Have admission standards of U of T gone down lately?
Also, what is this exaggeration with staunch religion?  You can be
a St.Mike's student and ignore religion completely.  Unless you are
a person that experiences jitters just seeing a priest or a nun.
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Agreed - I'm graduating from the College in June 2004, and although there's ups and downs, the article needs work. I've started with some changes. --Krupo 07:21, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The sculpture in the picture is supposed to be St. Michael, I've added that to the photo description. Adam Bishop 04:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

text: (They are, of course, completely irrelevant, but I suppose no one really needs this to be pointed out...) Adam Bishop 07:03, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How are they irrelevant good sir? --Murphoholic 07:39, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Content such as "Murphoholics, are widely considered to be the most idiotic students at U of T"  is pretty far from encyclopedic. - SimonP 14:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see why Loretto's elegant ensuite bathrooms are so much more encyclopedic than an accurate description of student life in residence.  At least the bit on Murphy Hall First Floor seems to be based in fact, unlike several items in the current entry. Hastalavictoriasiempre 18:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The simple fact is that Murphy first is a prominent, active member of not only the St. Michael's community, but the University of Toronto community as a whole.  We're active in athletic and social circles, we are currently quite involved in raising money and collecting canned goods for the Dean's Cup charity, we are influential in academic circles (such as the U of T G8  conference, we've identified several pivot points that created no small amount of debate) and perhaps what puts us furthest apart from everyone else is our commitment to each other, and unified community spirit that is so much so that a history and name has developed around that.  In any event, the purpose of Wikipedia is to disseminate relevant information to the public, not for bias individuals to improperly exercise their powers.  There are many, many individuals at St. Michael's who have heard of Murphy 1st, but know nothing of it.  Well, what better place to educate them? -- AndrewLB 18:14, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You are just some residence floor. It's not even really called "Murphy First", and when you are all gone it will just be Sorbara again. You have your own website already, for the few people who will ever care about this. Sorry, but you are just not important. Adam Bishop, or [SMC]AngusPodgorny if you prefer, 18:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Hello Adam.  Although I was once a fan of yours, personal attack removed at this fine institution.AdamBishopFan 19:43, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please desist from personal attacks or you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. All Wikipedia articles have to be Verifiable, which means they must have been covered in neutral secondary sources. - SimonP 20:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest I don't find Adam Bishop's view of St. Mike's to be neutral in any way, but at least he likes Sloan. Great band they are.--Murphoholic 20:35, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, it'd be best to start deleting all the wikipedia entries about Family Guy or similar summaries, because most of them have nothing to do with secondary sources AndrewLB 22:25, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In the last few weeks alone some 450 news organizations have written stories about Family Guy. By contrast Murphy Hall First Floor has so far received no coverage. - SimonP 22:35, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, the ensuite bathrooms at Loretto have not received any media coverage in the last few weeks. At least Murphy First has received media coverage in The Mike and on MuchMusic. Hastalavictoriasiempre 00:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: You make a good point. I think the comments about the Canada Room are way over the top. It really isn't that great a place to dine. Also, to call the PIMS 'famed' is a bit much. Just a few things that could be changed. One last thing, dons aren't always graduate or professional students, they're often in their fourth year of an undergrad program.--Murphoholic 14:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: Maybe I just missed it in the article, but why does it have a seemingly redundant name? (Both University and College). Did it change names or something? --AW (talk) 20:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All the federated colleges did that, I think, not just at Toronto, but at Western too, and probably wherever else they exist. I know at Western it was to avoid being seen as a community college. The three there are now called "university colleges". I'm not sure when Toronto's colleges changed their names but it was probably for the same reason. Adam Bishop (talk) 20:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Actually, "University of ____ College" was a fairly common way of calling any college with university status in the 19th century. "Harvard College" and "Yale College" were often called "University of Harvard College" and "University of Yale College". There was nothing unusual about "University of Queen's College" or "University of McGill College", which later changed their names to Queen's University and McGill University respectively. University of Trinity College and University of St. Michael's College simply never changed their names. University of King's College in Nova Scotia also kept its original name. The newer university colleges at Western changed their names for different reasons. Jphillips23 (talk) 06:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
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message: Based on the plaque in front of PIMS, its charter was signed by Pius XII, not Pius XI.  See citation.  Now corrected. 
  Best wishes, Hoktiwe (talk) 16:45, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pius XII made the charter for PIMS, it seems, based on the plaque in front of the buidling. 

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