Talk:Ownership society

message: This page is sorely missing an "implementation" section. It needs a list of executive or legislative branch actions or attempted actions which tried to create the "ownership society". Two things that come to mind are the zero-down payment initiative and the President's unsuccessful attempts to privatize social security. I'm curious at how much of lack of regulation of the housing market had roots in policy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimmer (talk • contribs) 11:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Implementation

message: Perhaps included within this section could be some info on how Bush's vision of the "Ownership Society" resulted in millions of people getting sham home loans to buy houses they could not afford, and how our current economic collapse directly resulted from these very policies. You don't hear Bush talking much about this Ownership Society anymore, now that it's clear that his policies resulted in a DECREASE of home ownership. I think this is a relevant and important concept that should be added to this article.
MisplacedFate1313 (talk) 18:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unintended Consequences

message: "The sale at affordable prices of public housing to tenants". Can you sell a price? - Jerryseinfeld 21:13, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me, how does this sentence even suggest the sale of a price? CSTAR 22:18, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: The comment clearly does not say it is dangerous to save.CSTAR 22:18, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: "Large corporations found this direct ownership of small parcels of shares to be a significant administrative overhead." First of all, EVERY public company has a lot of shareholders, if you don't like it, then that's fine, it has nothing to do with this article. Secondly, the conversation is really wandering from the subject here. - Jerryseinfeld 21:16, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is not really about privatization is it? - Jerryseinfeld 21:51, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wandering 

message: This guy just reverted 9 edits. - Jerryseinfeld 22:47, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revertion 

message: Both the headline "history" and "analysis" are really unnecessary in my opinion. Private ownership has ALWAYS existed. Does it have to mention people that have talked about it in the past? And analyze what "control" and "ownership" means? - Jerryseinfeld 00:18, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: About the analysis, "desiderata", "informed consent", "political stake-holding", "extrapolation", "property rights in money". I must say I don't get the point of it. But it sounds like someone have thought long and hard about it. - Jerryseinfeld 00:23, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Private ownership 

message: Two points.
Firstly, inclusion of a large section of the White House press release of August 9 2004 goes against the Wikipedia policy of not including original sources. It also is no help in making this page conform to NPOV. 
Secondly, I am having difficulty with your failure to comprehend what this encyclopedia is and does. This article of course should link in some way to the page on ownership, and in such a way at least to make clear what the relationship with the usage on this page is. Where a word like control is used three ways in one sentence, it is also in my view quite reasonable to analyse it, and make the connection control to ownership. 
Charles Matthews 06:24, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I also point out that, despite my plea for edit summaries, you have made 27 successive edits to this page without a single proper editorial comment? This makes it hugely time-consuming to understand in what way you feel the page should develop. Charles Matthews 06:34, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: To [[User:Jerryseinfeld]]

message: Could you please provide the source of the fact sheet in the article? For instance, the ownership society proposals as detailed in blah? As it stands, it has no background whatsoever.CSTAR 23:52, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. - Jerryseinfeld 00:08, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  At least we know it's direct from the White House. Does Bush really need WP to publicize his programs? CSTAR 00:12, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be a base for you to do that clever analysis you're so good at. - Jerryseinfeld 00:26, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact sheet 

message: ::::Let me say that I am impressed how well this page already looks now - thanks to Jerryseinfeld, although many of the arguments with CSTAR and Charles above actually seem pretty constructive after all. --Lumidek 15:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: What a bunch of losers you are. I'll pray for you when your entitlement program expires. - Jerryseinfeld 19:13, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Losers 

message: Wow, can we get any more weasel words into one article (some say, it is criticized because, etc.)? How about we focus on the idea as put forth by GWB and not extrapolate it to "proponents of this would favor..." and crap like that?
Disclosure: anti-"Ownership society" libertarian. Paul 00:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weasel words

message: I think in the 1980s Reagan used the concept of the "Ownership Society" in reference to homeowners. Socialists have for decades talked about common-ownership societies vs. private-ownership societies.  Mrdthree 05:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other uses

message: The article mentions direct shareholding control of schools. Would this society also have workers directly own shares of workplaces? It seems unlikely but I can't find anything that says otherwise  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.249.230 (talk) 07:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership of means of production 

message: The article should mainly focus on the term "ownership society" as used by George W. Bush. It should not extrapolate this concept to other presidents and other countries without reliable sources making this connection. Most of the discussion in "Ownership and control" and "Political consequences and unexpected consequences" is original research. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs major restructuring