Talk:Merrill McPeak

message: I understand that there was some commotion about his political statements and activites during the 2004 presidential campaign, and it was explained to me that former general officers are expected to not be outspoken about politics. Should this be incorporated in the article somewhere?  Also, is it true that those who didn't like him refer to him as McPuke? Isaac Crumm 02:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I remarked out several paragraphs, they need to be referenced from WP:RS, there's a higher standard for info, see abobe Bio on Living People link.Awotter (talk) 06:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reliable references please

message: It is the Cross of Gallantry with Palm, not the "Gallantry Cross."  I know because I have one myself.
As to whether generals should get into politics, that is a valid question because generals never really "retire" and can be called up at any time military necessity requires it.  Still, the U.S. has a long history of generals getting into politics (Grant, Ike, etc.), and many more recent officers of that rank (Zumwalt, Clark, etc.) have been politically outspoken.  That said, it is entirely open to question whether McPeak (or any general officer) should be essentially trading on his military background in order to make it seem as if his political opinions have unique validity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.152.227 (talk • contribs) 21:24, March 22, 2008 
:The article linked to the above medal refers to it both ways, it's not an editing error on this article page, that's the actual title used for the other article (Vietnam Gallantry Cross).Awotter (talk) 21:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Error, and a Note about Comment

message: Here:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20080331faupdate87277/merrill-a-mcpeak/how-to-secure-israel.html
:More than 30 years ago, ... I wrote an Foreign Affairs published an article now being circulated in the blogosphere as evidence of an alleged anti-Israel point of view. Some commentators reach farther, suggesting that since I have been an active supporter of Barack Obama's presidential bid he, too, is anti-Israel. Both these assertions fall flat after any objective reading of the historical record.
--John Bahrain (talk) 23:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  McPeak's response in [[Foreign Affairs]] 

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message: According to this article, "...McPeak is best remembered by many current and since-retired Air Force personnel for the sweeping changes he made to the Air Force's service dress uniform, especially for commissioned officers."
Changes to the uniform?  Really?  McPeak is the service chief who, under Les Aspin, opened up fighter and bomber cockpits to women.  This article does not make a single mention of that.  I see no link to the Combat Exclusion Policy.  Not so much as added down in the See Also section.  Of the three women that McPeak introduced in that press conference on April 28th, 1993, as being the first to become USAF female fighter pilots, one today is a general officer.  Another is a US Senator.
My own opinion is that this info is worth mentioning.  Not just buried down in the body of the article, but right up at the top.  This article has been in existence for more than 13 years.  No one has thought to include this info?  Either that, or for whatever reason it has been removed.  Either way, this article is in dire need of being fixed.  I see this to be among the worst of what Wikipedia has to offer.  If this was a top quality article, then it would mention the more current activities McPeak has been involved in regarding something like the Lafayette Escadrille.  As it is, I don't see this as meeting a minimum standard of acceptability.
McPeak's legacy runs much much deeper than a flash in the pan uniform change.  He made sweeping permanent changes to the very core of the US Air Force. --Concord19 (talk) 03:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. Go for it! Marquardtika (talk) 17:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is garbage