Talk:Old Man of the Mountain

message: I'm going out on a limb here, but I assume the David Nielsen mentioned in here is not the David Nielsen the page links too.  Anyone have concrete information?  --ORBIT 08:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not much of a limb! I removed the link. - DavidWBrooks 13:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  But yet it's back to the same different person :) 24.34.46.96 13:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Nielsen 

message: What about pointing out that the timing of the Face's collapse was ironic, coming just a short time after the State quarter was introduced?
Thanks for your consideration.
Dave Andrew 04:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If people consider the juxtaposition ironic, they will consider it ironic - telling them "hey, this is ironic" is unnecessary, IMHO. Besides, the coin came out three years before the collapse, not exactly a short time. - DavidWBrooks 20:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

text: On the scale of the age of the universe, they happened at exactly the same moment within rounding error! What are the odds of that?!?!?!? What an ironic coincidence!! - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

text: What about stating something about the coincidence of same-sex legislation in the state not long before it had collapsed? - Willard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.36.210 (talk) 00:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just in case that isn't a troll and/oir joke, note that same-sex marriage became legal on January 1, 2010, almost seven years after the collapse. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry, I was thinking of the state electing a gay bishop to the episcopal community. It's was unprecedented. - Willard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.36.210 (talk) 07:11, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

text: That's certainly more reasonable: Gene Robinson was elected bishop June 7, 2003, barely a month after the collapse. But drawing any connection between those two events would be ridiculous; we might as well make note of the winning lottery numbers at the time. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe I said it was unprecedented? And please don't say "Oh well, the exact lottery numbers, amount won was unprecedented!" You may call it superstitious, but it's worth noting. WillardWorsley (talk) 05:23, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapse follows State quarter 

message: Is it really necessary to have so many hyperlinks on this page? Like, does anyone seriously not know what a highway is? Or a state legislator? Has no one heard of wind, snow, and rain? If these hypothetical people have any doubts I'm sure they can look up these problem spots on their own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.86.128 (talk) 10:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Use of So Many Hyperlinks]] 

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message: Is there any evidence that the jazz song "The Old Man of the Mountain", performed by Cab Calloway and his Orchestra amongst others, and hence the derived Betty Boop cartoon of the same title, was inspired by this formation? 87.81.230.195 (talk) 13:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The "old man" in the cartoon and song lyrics is a person, not a stone face, so the connection would seem to be peripheral at best. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 16:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inspiration for jazz song and cartoon? 

message: I cannot find any references to substantiate the claim that state legislators considered the idea of including the Old Man image on the state flag subsequent to the collapse. A search of relevant articles in the New Hampshire Union-Leader shows no mention of the idea. Can someone please find a substantiating WP:RS reference for this? Otherwise I think the claim should be removed. — Rnickel (talk) 18:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  State Flag claim? 

message: I don't particularly object to a detailed description of a proposal to replace (or "redefine") the Old Man after its collapse, unless it was just one of many proposals, in which case singling this one out becomes a promotion for this particular architect.  Is there any information available on the proposals that were submitted to the Merrill commission in 2003? --Ken Gallager (talk) 17:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement proposals 

message: In the Simpsons episode Fraudcast News, a very similar rock formation collapses. The episode aired almost exactly a year after the Old Man of the Mountain collapsed. Is there any mileage in including this in the article? Can anyone find a citation for a definite connection between the two? -- Bobyllib (talk) 18:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why. The Simpsons has made references to umpty-bazillion events in its 10-years-plus run - we don't need to mark every single time they made a satire of something, do we? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 20:22, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not that I think it's important, but the Simpsons reference wouldn't be "marking every single time they made a satire of something", it is a reference to this (former) formation in popular culture. Many pages on wikipedia have this type of information. Just sayin 2CrudeDudes (talk) 18:53, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons 

message: The NYT just had an article about the Old Man of the Mountain and the memorial designs and stuff. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 16:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York Times article 

message: The 1955 stamp shown in the article bears the inscription "The Old Man of the Mountains", the last word in the plural. Whereas the article itself does not mention the issue of plural vs. singular, but seems to assume the singular everywhere. Toddcs (talk) 20:12, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow - I had never noticed that pluralism! It is absolutely a singular mountain: that's the official name, as the links at the bottom indicate, and that is the way virtually everybody refers to it/him. Still, I wonder how many plural versions have been created over time. Interesting. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 20:30, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Man of the Mountain, or Mountains? 

message: Note that Alpstein in the Swiss Alps, also has an Altmann (Old Man). Similarity to a person not so clear. But anyway, there is the possibly this connection was also made by the people naming the place. Student7 (talk) 00:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Another "Old Man"

message: http://news.yahoo.com/nh-honors-old-man-10-years-formations-fall-163851178.html  Irish Melkite (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some history and status of the memorial drive 

message: I believe this was called Eagle Cliff. See the article and image at Profile House. What is now Echo Lake seems to have been Profile Lake. OrganicEarth (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Eagle Cliff is on the east side of the notch, facing the Old Man, which was on the west side under Cannon Mountain. Echo Lake and Profile Lake are separate water bodies less than a mile apart, separated by the height of land in the notch. Echo Lake drains north and is part of the Connecticut River watershed, while Profile Lake, which sits directly under the Old Man (hence its name), drains south into the Pemigewasset River and thence to the Merrimack. It's possible the professional photographers of yore misidentified one of the lakes. Thanks for all the wonderful stereo images you've been putting up, by the way. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link to the topo map of the area, which best describes what I just wrote.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thank you VERY much for the help. I wonder why I didn't see references to Echo Lake or Old Man from the 19th century sources I was looking at.. OrganicEarth (talk) 14:30, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Eagle Cliff

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I was going to update a dead reference link, but gave up after several minutes trying to figure out how to do it.  Could the user interface be any harder to use? Here's the new URL for the piece from the governor if someone else wants to do it: http://www.lfda.org/issues/old-man-mountain-memorial Nasch (talk) 04:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you specify the statement that gets this new link? The only "dead link" tag in the article right now is for the former "caretaker" of the Old Man.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference number 6. Nasch (talk) 03:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, all set. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating dead reference link 

message: What do people think about killing the timeline, and incorporating the material into next as necessary? Much of its material is already mentioned in the article - it seems clumsy and duplicative (if that's a word). - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a good idea. Better to just have a single chronology, using standard paragraphs. --Ken Gallager (talk) 19:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally happen to like the timeline as it is a great snapshot of the full history that is easily readable. Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:   Timeline - is that necessary? 

message: I have two proposals, we should choose one: (1) all around wikipedia, if anybody is deceased, we should display a composite image that shows them as a semi transparent ghost so nobody mistakenly will think that they are alive (2) leave the rest of wikipedia alone, and restore a picture of actual Old Man of the Mountain to this page, and let people know in text that it no longer exists.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.224.172 (talk) 00:46, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say that the image used depicts the article topic very well. No need for change. Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 01:16, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - it's an unusual composite but it's informative and useful. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about a normal photo?