Talk:Shannon Airport

message: I am tempted to move this to Shannon Airport, since that seems to be a much more common name.  Objections? -- Sekicho 17:45, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. Zoney 18:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Anybody following this? The Gardai are banning people from outside shannon from coming to protest. They have given out passes to residents and recorded car number plates. They have also gone door to door asking people's views on Bush and whether they intend to protest. Very police-stateish. Seabhcan 11:33, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bush's Visit in June 04 

message: Surely the historical use of the Shannon Estuary for flying boats should be mentioned.  Does anybody know about it? --Red King 00:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The flying boats were at Foynes. Rineanna was always used for ordinary planes. Seabhcán 07:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for update. Confusion removed. --Red King 09:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Flying boats at Rineanna

message: The article says that Judge Macken "is due to give a judgement in April/May 2005".  Any update? --Red King 21:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Judge Macken verdict?

message: The "Forign military at Shannon" section seems rather one sided and opinionated. It would be more apt for an encyclopedia reporting facts, to do just that and report all facts relevant to an issue.
: I agree, infact the whole article seems to be mainly about the US military
:: This is just one section, and an important one, because it reports serious issues that relate to Irish neutrality, which is very close to being a constitutional issue.  Shannon is a major stop-over for US Military personnel en route to a war zone and so-called 'extraordinary rendition' is a serious breach of Irish laws on Human Rights. So, rather than merely assert that the section is 'one sided and opinionated', why not propose changes that would redress the balance.  It has not been obvious to other editors that anything other than bare facts are being reported.  --Red King 00:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objectivity of "Foreign military aircraft at Shannon" section 

message: *Is Dublin Airport not busier in terms of transatlantic flights, it also has more transatlantic routes.Jvlm.123 15:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Main Transatlantic Airport In Ireland?

message: This article was in need of a rework and I have made a start on this today. Some text has been amended to ensure neutral point of view, non-encyclopedic content has been removed and trivia items have been integrated into appropriate sections of the article itself. The lead section contained too much information which was already contained in the article itself and has been moved / removed appropriately. Please feel free to continue to improve this article with your own edits. Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article rework 

message: There are three different spellings for the Irish name of Shannon Airport. The infobox spells it as Aerfort na Sionnainne. The logo spells it as Aerfort na Sionainne. And the first line of the article says it is Aerfort na Sionna. So does anybody know which is it?? 86.43.67.204 (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Irish 

message: I believe flights by Shamrock Express to Lansing are charters rather than scheduled flights. Does anyone have any source to suggest otherwise ? Pmbma (talk) 19:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do the flights even exist? From this message board it appears to be just talk.--A bit iffy (talk) 07:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think they do exist, but I'm not certain on this - I just reverted the WP entry back to the previous status of charter when someone changed in to scheduled.
I removed Shamrock express. This is a tour company that comes along and says they are going to offer service to Shannon beginning Summer 08. In March 08 they cancel saying they hope to begin service the following year. Their website is still under construction (1 year later). There does not appear to be much information about Kenny Tours on the internet, there does not appear to be much information about Shamrock Express on the internet. It seems like they also tried to start service out of Niagara Falls but that also did not work out. --T*85 (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with the removal. The more I look at this, there more I think that Shamrock Express was no more than an unfulfilled wish. It doesn't belong in the article. Also, for completeness, I'm moving to here ("Shannon Airport - Shamrock Express" below) some additional discussion from another talk page.--A bit iffy (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shamrock Express

message: The discussion below was on User talk:88.81.104.106 but I have moved it here because it is a more appropriate place.--A bit iffy (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Shannon Airport - Shamrock Express'' 

message: The coordinates need the following fixes:
52.701978,-8.924817 Write here
85.201.128.95 (talk) 20:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: I know that this route was operated seasonally for a while now but is this route ending indefintely or is it still operating seasonally? 74.183.173.237 (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delta SNN-JFK route 

message: What heading should the fact that Volga-Dnepr Airlines have a maintenace facility here go under? ShaneMc2010 (talk) 21:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Volga-Dnepr

message: The article says "The first Air Services Agreement with the United States in 1945 only permitted flights to Shannon, and only permitted Irish airlines to serve Boston, Chicago and New York." I guess he meant US airlines were allowed at Shannon but not elsewhere in Ireland, and Irish airlines were allowed at Boston-Chicago-NY but not elsewhere in the US? As it stands, it could mean US airlines weren't allowed to fly from SNN to BOS etc. Tim Zukas (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History needs clarification 

message: As you have not added anything about it I added it and you deleted it I would like a reason why you are censoring a public website  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.246 (talk) 15:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Coming in new, it looks to me that the reason it was deleted was that it was too insignificant. The policy Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Aircraft accidents and incidents explains what (and what does not) qualify for inclusion.--Red King (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aer Lingus Regional Incident  

message: Seasonal suspension of Aer Lingus' transatlantic routes
The information therein needs to be reformulated, since it now occurred in the past. Either that or removed altogether; Transatlantic flights having been suspended a year or two ago from the airport, isn't really encyclopedic knowledge for its article, is it ?
--205.167.7.125 (talk) 09:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section needs fixing, or better still removing 

message: If you find any references for charter flights operating at SNN please add them as it can be hard to find out if charters are still running.  Please remove any charters that are no longer running.  Thanks, Vg31-irl (talk) 15:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for charter flights 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Travel Service Airlines is shown as a passenger airline, with destinations Marseille and CDG. However, there is no mention of that airline in the referenced source, and the article on Travel Service Airlines makes no mention of any SNN operations. Can someone clarify what's happening?--A bit iffy (talk) 00:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That site does not mention the operating airlines. I know from checking the Shannon Airport website departures page that these flights are operated by Travel Service Airlines. If you search on Flickr you will find pictures from last summer of Travel Service Airlines aircraft at Shannon Airport. VG31-irl 01:01, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the request for a source to the Travel Service Airlines cell in the table - perhaps a more appropriate place.--A bit iffy (talk) 01:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Travel Service Airlines

message: Someone put a hidden message in the destinations section not to put BA LCY in the table.
I do not see a discussion here for such restriction. BA LCY should be put in but with a notation that only passengers between LCY and JFK are carried. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Such routes are only included if they have fifth freedom rights to take on passengers at the stopover airport. Ethiopian Airlines from ADD-DUB-LAX is listed as they take on passengers at Dublin but not flights from ADD to IAD or YYZ as they only use DUB as a fuel stop. Likewise, the BA flights from LCY-SNN-JFK are not included as they do not allow passengers to fly from SNN-JFK only. This is not a policy specific to this page but an airport-wide policy. Thanks, VG31 13:36, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you point me to the policy? I see some footnotes in some articles that says that an airline flies xxx-KUL-SIN but has no KUL-SIN rights so something similar might be done here. Any policy written down? Vanguard10 (talk) 04:22, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  BA route 

message: Just querying the opening sentence of the article: . This sounds quite odd to me, given that three are 2-3 other airports, namely Belfast International, Belfast City and maybe also City of Derry, which are indisputably in Ireland, and are in the same league of "primacy" as Dublin, Cork and Shannon. Of course, I know there is a lot of controversy around these sorts of topics, and I know that Irish people don't like the term "Republic of Ireland" for their country, preferring simply "Ireland", which is understandable. On the other hand, however, few would dispute that Belfast and Derry are in Ireland (albeit not in the nation state called Ireland). Is there a better way we could word this? Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 17:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If the opening sentence said "one of the Island of Ireland's.." then maybe include Belfast etc. but as per the Manual of Style the use of Ireland is seems fine. ~ Ablaze (talk) 07:33, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three primary airports 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Add </ref> after <ref name="ClareHerald.com">. JsfasdF252 (talk) 00:30, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that is not the point. What needs to be added is </ref> to close the reference. This word was accidentally removed by IP 2600.1700etc. The Banner talk 01:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

text: Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 16 January 2021 

message: I have difficulty with the addition by User:StairySky added here and his similar edit on Dermot Ahern. I have severe doubts if these additions are in the best interest of the articles at hand and seems to be overblown/out of scope of the subject. I like to have more opinions. The Banner talk 14:36, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I only saw this now. Could you elaborate on why you say it is overblown? StairySky (talk) 08:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In short: I think you give it more attention in the mentioned articles then it is really worth. You are talking about a minister and an airport. The details you provided fits better in an article about rendition flights. I also know that rendition flights are highly controversial with a high risk of making the article non-neutral but is must also not be whitewashed. The Banner talk 09:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's quite a significant political issue, so I'm not sure it can be boiled down to "a minister and an airport". It seems to have coverage in a range of reliable sources which to me would make it worth putting in the article, in addition to the fact that it's a contentious political issue. StairySky (talk) 10:00, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Separate article? The Banner talk 11:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you have in mind? StairySky (talk) 10:43, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rendition flights at [[Shannon Airport#Usage for military stopovers]]

message: The current Shannon Stopover section starts off with the introduction of US preclearance facilities in 1986. This is not quite accurate. As I understand it, the original stopover concept was a requirement that all transatlantic flights in and out of Ireland had to land at Shannon before proceeding on to Dublin, New York, Boston, or other destinations. This would have been in the 1960s/1970s I believe, and was in place long before any form of preclearance was introduced. I think that the procedure was gradually phased out, with airlines being allowed to bypass Shannon in one direction, or only serving it on a single route. I think there was also an interim period when an Aer Lingus 747 was based at Shannon and passed through Dublin en route to and from the USA. Maybe we could update the article to reflect this. jxm (talk) 07:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. That section about preclearance was added at the wrong place. I have moved it a bit and gave it its own section header. The Banner talk 10:45, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stopover section