Talk:Bumblebee (Transformers)

message: I really think we should remove the assertion that the Classics Bumblebee toy is based on the Peugeot 206 WRC for a couple of reasons, number one it bears little or no resemblance to the 206 (or the 207 for that matter) and there are other cars it looks much more like (the Scion xA for a start although a three door version), number two is that I can see no official information to back up the assertion and think the article would be better with no reference to what car he is rather than an inaccurate and unproven assertion! CartmanUK26 13:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well no response after one day so I am going to go ahead and make a change, let me know what you think about it here! CartmanUK26 08:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classics Bumblebee 

message: Hey Matt, do you really think the section on "Prime Target" is notable for this article? The only reference to Bumblebee is that he was captured. In the grand scheme, it seems as though this is hardly worthwhile (whereas others perhaps are). I'll go with your judgement on this one, but I'm really not comfortable with something that seems rather insignificant being included. Thoughts? VigilancePrime 02:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prime Target 

message: I think we need to make two galleries on this page, one for Bumblebee in media, and another to reflect its toys.  I have the new Movie version (the store I went to broke street date :) ), so I'll take a pic of it and put it on here tonight.--Bedford 20:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of galleries, there was, at one point, HUGE pictures of the Autobots up. I was sad to see them gone, as I was trying sketch Bee's face from the 4000pixel x 4000pixel+ picture. Does anyone have them? Why were they removed/scaled down?--Amantetosca 09:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gallery

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Autobot logo s.jpg

message: Im sick of the chopping and changing between 75/76/77/78/79 and 2008/9. Can anyone find a concrete source on what models were actually used? Otherwise I think the only rational thing to do is remove the years altogether. Metao 02:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In discussion of this matter over Bumblebee's entry on the Transformers film page, it was decided not to differentiate the two. However, this is important information for this Bumblebee-specific page. Since GM themselves did not provide the new Camaros for the film there is no reliable citation for what model year it is suppsoed to be - the ONLY thing we know based on what is shown in the movie is that it could most likely NOT have been the CONCEPT(Concept cars are rarly road-legal), but it would have most likely been a prototype or production model. To eliminate this confusion, I propose changing the entry to either "Fifth-generation Camaro" or "New Camaro." Since we KNOW this version of the Camaro is going to be produced, either one works. I am going to edit it to say "New Camaro." If anyone feels Fifth Generation Camaro is better then say so and we'll figure out which to use. With the lack of accurate citations of what it was MEANT to be in the movie, these two methods of listing it work much better because they cover all possibilities - Concept(as UNlikely as that is in the film version), Prototype, or Production version Camaro. I'm also going to change the old Camaro listing to say 1974-79 since the toy version is the only one that lists a model year (74), and we know due to Brawl/Devastator that they may not be completely accurate. The listed years are all the version Bumblebee could have been meant to be. -Bolt Crank 02:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fifth-Gen is probably better than "New", but I dont care enough to change it. I do remember reading that the car used was a prototype or concept - apparently the car had its own bodyguards, and the actors were warned to treat the car like it was made of gold. Im not sure where I read that, though. So Im fairly certain that the car was pre-production. Road-legality is pretty irrelevant for making movies anyway - they close down the roads they film on anyway, and none of the cars (iirc) had license plates. Metao 04:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree "Fifth Generation" would be preferable to "NEW" as it wouldn't need to be changed should another "NEW" Camaro be released. Most "Concept Cars" these days are called such right up until a final production version is unveiled and have certainly undergone some "real life" testing at some point so saying they are rarely road legal whilst being inaccurate in itself also does not preclude it being so in this case. Also on the subject of Brawl/Devastator I am pretty sure the toys represent what was meant to have been changed in the movie and wasn't and so the movie is in error and the toys relaiable.CartmanUK26 10:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Film Bumblebee - Year?

message: Why is the picture for the movie Bumblebee an actual bee? 72.74.117.222 21:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That Good Faith (but still in error) edit has been reverted to the proper image. VigilancePrime 21:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie Pic

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message: The article is very big, and there is presidence for splitting Transformers articles, like Optimus Prime and Megatron ip when more than one character share the same name. Maybe the 2007 Movie character of Bumblebee should get his own page? Mathewignash (talk) 13:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Split article?

message: I just had a look at the Bumblebee (other incarnations) page and, IMHO, both that page and this main page on G1 Bumblebee are short enough to be merged back into one page. Not only is G1 Bee's page quite short, but there are only two other incarnations (Movie and Animated) on the "other incarnations" page. I'm no expert, but I think that "other incarnations" pages should be avoided if necessary. (On the other hand, such pages for Optimus Prime and others seem to be necessary because their G1 pages are too long). Anyone else with me?--Eh! Steve (talk) 22:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: EDIT: The previous message was made assuming that page length was the only factor. If both page length and the importance of the character are factors, and therefore the Bumblebee article shouldn't be re-merged, then I guess following the same principles a Soundwave (other incarnations) page should be created, due to the fact that G1 Soundwave's section is about the same length as Bee's, that he has more incarnations, and that he is one of the best-remembered characters from the original cartoon.--Eh! Steve (talk) 23:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd rather re-merge, multiple articles on these characters are unnecessary. ,We don't have a separate article for the Samuel L. Jackson-based versions of Nick Fury. NotARealWord (talk) 05:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-merge [[Bumblebee (other incarnations)]] 

message: I feel it is unnecessary that this character has separate articles for  Bumblebee (other incarnations),Bumblebee (Transformers Animated). They are full of fancruft, badly sourced fansites and plot summary it would be better to for them to be redirected to the main article as it's about the same character and there is innsufficent independent information that the different incarnations are  notable or distinct enough to have their own articles. Dwanyewest (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Strong Oppose The merge you're proposing would result in a 90+ kilobyte article. That's not a good idea. --Divebomb (talk) 17:07, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned at Wikiproject Transformers the argument which has often been made that multiple incarnations can't exist on a single TF character on  one page. Because it is unwieldy or confusing to the reader is intellectually dishonesty. The nearest comparison would be to a Toy based character with multiple incarnations would be GI Joe. Look at the likes of Snake Eyes (G.I. Joe),Hawk (G.I. Joe),Scarlett (G.I. Joe) they have multiple descriptions of each incarnation of their characters and still manage write about the toys with sprawling checklists and still readable and they are much better written and sources than many of the TF articles. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

text: *If the pages are kept separate, the parent page should still have a bit of coverage on the separate incarnations. Even something simple as "In Transformers:Animated, Bumblebee is a main character voiced by Bumper Robinson. Bumblebee is friends with Bulkhead" . NotARealWord (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal for Bumblebee 

message: start merging, please. TheActionMovieCritic (talk) 02:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging 

message: The second "Transformers: Generation 1" section has info pertaining only to Goldbug. So it seems appropriate to move that section to the Goldbug (Transformers) article. I would do it myself but that article's protected.71.255.171.230 (talk) 21:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goldbug (Transformers) 

message: I assume somebody is going to revert that at some point. That is a rather ridiculous collection of details that does not belong here, especially when this is one of the few Transformers capable of actually being developed into something. There should be a section describing the character's appearance in the toy lines with references showing their real world impact. Popular toys should be mentioned within the text, but several giants lists are not suitable for an encyclopedia. TTN (talk) 11:04, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Toy lists

message: Saleen chopped up a couple of Pontiac GTOs to build two Bumblebee '09 Camaros for the first movie, with fiberglass bodies laid up using the molds GM used for the non-functional show car. Bizzybody (talk) 11:00, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First movie version. 

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thread_title:  IISSTT 

message: The article now contains information about the live action films at two separate sections, Bumblebee (Transformers)#Transformers Cinematic Universe and Bumblebee (Transformers)#Live action films. These should be checked for overlapping and/or duplicated content and then merged. JIP | Talk 10:16, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicated content 

message: Question, how do we make it clear to readers of this encyclopedia who have not seen the film Bumblebee that the character name B-127 is pronounced B-one-twenty-seven and not B-one-two-seven? It is a small detail but I feel it is necessary to explain it somewhere at least once. 
Would this work: 
... that is using the template:finedetail to include the extra detail? -- 109.79.188.174 (talk) 18:49, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: was deleted since I made my suggestion. I considered maybe  but  seemed like enough. -- 109.78.200.129 (talk) 13:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-127 

message: The beetle is, but not the Camaro? Muscle car is a broad distinction, considering he’s a Camaro in all 7 Live action films. Ryanishungry (talk) 02:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is Camaro not listed in alternate forms?