Talk:Bien Hoa Air Base

message: Note: check legality of photographs of military bases in Vietnam
There is lots of extraneous information included in this article that has little to do with the Air Base itself... for instance the "Skoshi Tiger" section belongs in the F-5_Freedom_Fighter article (and is there already, though it doesn't link to this article), and can be cut down to something like "12 new F-5 Freedom Fighters were based here from X to Y during the Skoshi Tiger evaluation program". Other sections can be similarly editted. -- Medains 16:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the above material from the main page because it appears to have been meant for the discussion page. It was not signed and I have no idea who put it there or its validity.Cuprum17 (talk) 00:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: This is wrong info.  I was there from May 19 1972 till after Oct 72 and No Airforce was aboard this base.
I was there in May - June 1972 as part of the 377 FOL, TDY from Ubon AFB. I was part of the Air Force serviceing personnel for the F4 turnaround.
::I removed the above material from the main page because it appears to have been meant for the discussion page. It was not signed and I have no idea who put it there or its validity.Cuprum17 (talk) 00:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: Sir, I was in Bien Hoa from May72 to Oct 25,73,,I was with Kilo co 3/9 Marines. We helped the USAF and MAB12 mag12  VMA, I used to have the USAF bring us MARINES coffee and cool aid, does anyone remember us MARINES. We were there when 1st Cav left the base. I was told that there were more choppers own by 1st Cav at Bien Hoa, then we had in the entire Marine Corps. The RVN had a Co named Lt.Col.Kehn,,,we were told he was a living legend with the ARVN's  My Co. was Capt Hoskett, and Gen Leslie Brown. Our 1st day there we had a morter attack and we had the ARVN's shooting at us. We were ordered that if the shit got bad to kill the ARVN's with us. If we were in a fire fight they would raise there weapons above there head and yell"CHOI HOI" and they would turn against us. The ARVN's had orders to kill us if we tried to leave, what a War.Bunker hill 14, bullseye 9. Those are some of the posts we maned,the flight line posts were called DELTA 1-12. Cpl Fran Dutton Spfld,Massachusetts,KILO CO 3rd Bn. 9th Marines.Also PFC Sam Brown from Philly. Was shot in the face by PFC Venezwalla. Zappers were common, and many tried to kill Pilots
===Tagged Section: 2.2 405th Fighter Wing (B-57Bs) – Clark AFB, PI (by Dennis Hickey)[original research?]===
This section, in my opinion, may be factual but appears to be written by Dennis Hickey himself and is original research.  This section needs a complete rewrite and needs to be referenced.  Unreferenced material, while interesting, is not encyclopedic and doesn't belong.  
I am sure that Mr. Hickey wants to tell his story, however, but the article, without some referencing is not up to Wikipedia standards and I question the "B" Class rating.
Having served at Bien Hoa Air Base from 1966-1968, I can tell you that this article doesn't cover any of the Army units stationed on or near the base, only the Air Force perspective.  
Why is this a "B" class article? Cuprum17 (talk) 06:04, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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message: This section, in my opinion, may be factual but appears to be written by Dennis Hickey himself and is original research.  This section needs a complete rewrite and needs to be referenced.  Unreferenced material, while interesting, is not encyclopedic and doesn't belong.  
I am sure that Mr. Hickey wants to tell his story, however, but the article, without some referencing is not up to Wikipedia standards and I question the "B" Class rating.
Having served at Bien Hoa Air Base from 1966-1968, I can tell you that this article doesn't cover any of the Army units stationed on or near the base, only the Air Force perspective.  
Why is this a "B" class article? Cuprum17 (talk) 06:04, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagged Section: 2.2 405th Fighter Wing (B-57Bs) – Clark AFB, PI (by Dennis Hickey)[original research?]

message: They never saw any real combat and they call 15 aircraft losses a good safety record??? Redhanker (talk) 04:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only 15 F-102s lost 

message: This article deals only with the use of Bien Hoa as a US air base.  From a historical point of view, this is the least important role the place played.
 
The importance of Bien Hoa lies in the fact that  its was overrun at night, in 1962 as I recall, by FLN (later called "Vietcong" by the Americans after their invasion) who shot up a bunch of planes sitting around unguarded.
 
The US subsequently claimed a.) that there had been no serious damage, although $55 million worth of planes had been bulldozed as unrepairable, and b.) this showed the need for increased American "aid" to the Diem regime.  Acknowledged and offical US troop strength was increased from 700 to 10,500 as an immediate result of the raid.  Neither number has any strong connection with actual numbers of overt and covert US troops in the country.
 
"Bien Hoa Raid" is thus one of the most important symbolic events in Kennedy's involvement of the US in an already-lost war.
 
-dlj.
 
David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 23:31, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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