Talk:Maze

message: This is not advertising, since the book is long out of print and the Web sites do not contain advertising.  Please restore this material as this is a very popular puzzle book. Canon 19:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK Canon, I have restored it. If the material is of use to people other than the promoters of the book, then I guess it deserves to stay. I'm sorry to have deleted it so hastily. --Heron 20:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks very much. Canon 00:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maze by Christoher Manson

message: I wouln´t quarrell if my edit was reverted. But see Talk:Maize first. --Ezeu 08:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  dab Maize 

message: It has been disputed if the of an image in this article, :Image:Rats running around in a maze.png, qualifies as fair use. Please add a fair use rationale to the image description page, explaining why the image quallifies as fair use. --Fritz S. (Talk) 09:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use image 

message: Hi all. Is anybody aware of either positive or negative results for 3d maze solving? (I understand this question is maybe slightly off topic, but thanks anyway for any info.) Regards,--Powo 13:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Recursive backtracking" is very different from "follow the wall". Recursive backtracking uses a stack to keep track of all junction choices you've taken to reach the current point, and marks the Maze when backtracking so you always visit every cell in the Maze exactly once (regardless of its topology). Following a wall just means always taking a particular junction choice relative to the direction you're facing, where this method may not visit all cells in Mazes with loops before returning to start, meaning unlike recursive backtracking, wall following isn't guaranteed to find the solution to a Maze (although it at least works on many Mazes). Thanks, Cruiser1 (talk) 22:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  3d maze solving 

message: The link to the german WP article Irrgarten might be misleading. The authors understand the article as purely garden-related, i.e. it only deals with botanical maze-like arrangements. Any reference to other representations (especially the mathematical stuff) seems to be very unwelcome there and are removed almost immediately. I have also doubts that "irrgarten" is equivalent to "maze". In german popular language, most people use the term "labyrinth" that, in modern times, seems to be almost equivalent to "maze". But maybe there is no fully equivalent German translation of "maze". Therefore I recommend removing the link to the German article.--SiriusB 10:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will add a description of wall-follower and Trémaux etc. in de:Irrgarten. (You are right: the main aspects are garden related.) -- RTH (talk) 16:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Still today the de article is a completely botanics-related article. Therefore I still recommend removing the link since there is actually no maze article in German Wikipedia now.--SiriusB (talk) 14:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Update: I have placed a reference to de:Irrgarten in "See also" as an article about garden mazes. Again, de:Irrgarten is not a German equivalent to this article here! Maybe if I have plenty of time I can try and start a German general maze article (but this has to be discussed there).--SiriusB (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Structure of Labyrinth-related articles in German WP is still in discussion. A good idea would be a special German maze article about mathematical solutions etc. Please see first :de:Labyrinth (Begriffsklärung). -- RTH (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove or change de link? 

message: Almost all the links to external sites in this article seem unnecessary. They are also really annoying an lead the casual reader on a wild internet goose chase. Most i'm guessing are just advertising. I'll leave it to someone who knows this article well to crop them out rather than just hack them out myself with no knowledge of the subject. thanks in anticipation! extraordinary 14:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the following edits: (1) Moved the "Mazes open to the public" section to right before "External links", because they're both basically a list of links. (2) Moved the "Publications about mazes" section to right before "Further reading", because they both concern books about Mazes. (3) Moved the "Generating mazes" section to right after "Maze Construction", because they both deal with making Mazes. This didn't remove or change any content, but it does make the article a bit cleaner. Thanks, Cruiser1 12:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Removed internal link to cut-the-knot. The cut-the-knot page doesn't even mention Mazes, much less why it's fundamental enough to be one of two "see also" links on the main Maze page. If cut-the-knot is notable with respect to Mazes, it should be added to Category:Mazes. Thanks, Cruiser1 (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loads of unnecessary links that should be removed 

message: Ganna try t make the article better today. --Stealth500 (talk) 17:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Today 

message: There are many important maze algorithms for when you can see the entire maze, but these are not discussed. They are used, for example, to solve mazes on paper, or with computer programs. Additionally, the algorithms give some insight into the mathematical structure of mazes. Would it be appropriate to discuss the dead end filling algorithm in this article? A good description of the algorithm is seen here:  (about 2/3 the way down the page), and a video of it in action is here: .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.237.75 (talk) 12:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Algorithms? 

message: Any maze can be topologically mapped onto a three-dimensional maze. Does this mean that even a 42-dimensional (let's say rectangular) maze can be projected into a 3D space (naturally no longer being a rectangular one) without additional crossings? Is there any proof to this statement that could be cited here?--SiriusB (talk) 11:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The above is indeed true. Beyond that, any Maze can be mapped to a 2D Maze if you allow over and under passages. A standard Maze (of any number of dimensions) is basically just a graph, where junctions are vertexes/points, and passages are edges/lines between vertexes. You can topologically move or flatten those vertexes so they're all in a plane. The edges between the vertexes will probably overlap, but as long as those overlapping edges are distinguished from actual vertexes, you can say the Maze has been reexpressed as a 2D Maze with crossings (also called a "weave" Maze). Thanks, Cruiser1 (talk) 12:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe one can understand this  by reducing passages to thin lines (i.e. 1-dimensional manyfolds). Those only need to cross if the dimension of the surroundings space is 2-dimensional (and, of course, overlay if dim=1). And therefore a "weave" 3D maze (with 4D "bridges") would not make sense in general (i.e. if the maze is not restricted to a rectangular "box" pattern like that in the 4D Maze game in the external link list), would it?--SiriusB (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topology of mazes in higher dimensions 

message: Mazes have precise coordinates located on earth, i don't get that part...--Colonel  Valh ala-112   02:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mazes have coordinates? 

message: I was online and found another maze-solving technique. The method indacates that you first find all the dead ands, and "block" them out until you arrive at a conjuntion. Two blocked out paths meeting may be further blocked out to the next conjunction. What do you think of it?
-Soopahmohnkah
Jasonxu98 (talk) 00:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please have a look at the new section I have created: Maze#Dead-end_filling, thanks. 67.9.148.47 (talk) 08:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Maze-solving Techniques 

message: Is "Gey" really what is meant to be written there? (if you don't know where it is in the article, I think in most browsers if you hold the control/ctrl key and then press the F key a thing to search for words in the page shows up) --TiagoTiago (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some immature person vandalized and changed "Germany" to "Gey". It's been fixed.  --Mjrmtg (talk) 17:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gey" ? 

message: There is a factual discrepancy regarding the largest corn maze in America. This page lists Sever's Corn Maze in Shakopee, MN as the largest in America, whereas the corn maze page lists a corn maze in Dixon, CA as the largest in the world. Clearly the CA maze cannot be the largest in the world but not the largest in America.
Also, the section in this article listing mazes open to the public in North America seems quite disorganized and could use some cleaning up. Right now it appears to be alphabetized by the first word of each line, but the first word is not always the title of the maze. How about organizing by state/province as in other articles? Also, if this list is supposed to include corn mazes, it is a very incomplete list, as there are numerous other corn mazes open to the public. 63.231.160.62 (talk) 08:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual discrepancy 

message: Cruiser split the article and made a new page dedicated to maze solving algorithms. An IP put back in info about the algorithms. I'm not sure if the IP was unaware that it was duplicating info on the other page or if they thought both pages should contain it, or if they disagreed with the page split. I removed the redundant info.
discuss. 67.9.148.47 (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  algorithms split 

message: Any idea of who made the first maze in the world?  When did people start to make a maze-garden? -- 144.32.71.243 (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The history of maze 

message: I think Greg Bright should be given greater prominence as single-handedly creating the modern maze revival in the early 1970's. It is often the case that initiators get forgotten and overshadowed by those that follow - or worse have their works attributed to them.
And where is he now, I wonder?
89.168.94.90 (talk) 22:49, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Greg Bright

message: I thought it was OK to add an external link to this article since the link's target is directly relevant material to the subject matter.  My intention is not to sell or promote anything, but rather simply and solely to add value to the article.  <<OhNoItsJamie>> says that my purposed external link is spam.  Granted it's a link to a page of my personally owned and maintained retail PC software website (of graphical nature), but I fail to see why he/she considers it spam if the intent is neither malicious nor profit-driven.  My intent is purely educational and the link would remain persistent/valid into the long-term foreseeable future.  Your consideration would be appreciated as I have several other proposed external links I would like to add for other Wiki Topics.   Thanks!
Proposed external link:
*  3D Virtual Maze screen image w/ Top-Down Map showing a solution to a generated maze PierreDesl (talk) 17:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  The answer is still no. See WP:COI and WP:EL. 
OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I've read the External Links guidelines, and even the COI and EL refs., but I still fail to see why the critieria is not met [for acceptance of my proposed external link]. Your specific help is appreciated. pd PierreDesl (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that it's your software, I don't see how you could fail to understand how this could be seen as a conflict of interest. Has the software received any significant third-party coverage? If not, then I don't believe it's suitable for inclusion as an external link. Doniago (talk) 19:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Thanks Doniago, I realize this, but the well-known and significant site on mazes  has listed a link to my PC software program and has a licensed copy of it. pd PierreDesl (talk) 23:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Correction: that link reference is just: http://www.astrolog.org PierreDesl (talk) 23:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd need a third opinion on this; a glance at the website doesn't convince me that it meets reliable sourcing standards. Sorry. Doniago (talk) 03:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed external link for this article 

message: : Send on my talk page on frwiki. The user tried to send it here but didn’t manage to.
: He first did this edition (reverted), then this one.
: — Ltrl G☎,  22:50, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost message 

message: Redirecting discussion as multimove request to Talk:Labyrinth. Dekimasuよ! 00:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy of [[maze]] and [[labyrinth]] and suggesting moves 

message: The discussion of this seems to be happening at talk:Labyrinth : Accuracy of maze and labyrinth and suggesting moves. -- Elphion (talk) 22:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  see talk:Labyrinth 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Labyrinth which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 23:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Move discussion no longer in progress. -- Elphion (talk) 03:40, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: I've reverted the recent change in the lead.  This needs a more finessed approach; see the discussion at talk:Labyrinth -- Elphion (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been little discussion here, I've rewritten the lead to reflect that "maze" and "labyrinth" are generally synonymous, but that "labyrinth" can also refer specifically to a unicursal pattern. (In particular, I have removed the passage saying that "technically" mazes are multicursal while labyrinths are unicursal.  This is simply not true:  even technical writers adopt differing conventions.)  This is well referenced (esp at Labyrinth), and should no longer be controversial. I have accordingly removed the "disputed" tag. -- Elphion (talk) 03:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labyrinth vs Maze 

message: The number of public mazes far outstrips what's listed in the section "Mazes open to the public", so the potential for this to grow significantly (especially since we don't state any criteria for adding entries) could swamp the article.  Perhaps we should turn this into a separate list page, with more explicit criteria? -- Elphion (talk) 18:31, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm okay with that. DonIago (talk) 20:29, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose moving the list of mazes 

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