Talk:Lomilomi massage

message: There's also an article on lomilomi, which in the form I found it, was simply an advertisement for a local massage therapist. I erased all the advertising, there and here. I'm not sure about leaving the book. I haven't seen it, and it could be a woo-woo bit of advertising rather than a reliable source. The two articles should be merged under one heading. Zora 22:54, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm OK with having Hawaiian massage redirect to Lomilomi, until we get complaints. But the articles SHOULD be linked in some way. Zora 20:49, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: moved to proper talkpage

message: Based on the new Bishop Museum Press book, I deleted information that was inaccurate and added information on how lomilomi was used in old Hawai'i. I added the book to resources and another book to put lomilomi in global context.  The original book listed, on big island massage, is a valuable resource.  
I've checked the Hawai'i State Archives and the Bishop Museum Archives and have found no historic pictures or drawings of lomilomi.  Makana Chai 07:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  editing changes made 

message: Is this article still a stub, or can we safely remove the template?
:I removed it, but the lead needs to be tightened to less than three paragraphs (two would be nice) and sections need expansion. --Viriditas 05:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  stub 

message: I don't believe that lomilomi can raise the dead, sorry. Nor am I sure that it was associated with "colonics" -- that seems to be a haole/New Age preoccupation. I don't remember anything like that from my readings in Hawaiian history and culture. I could be wrong -- are there any references to support pre-European use of "colonics"? I also removed bit re "the ancients", which sounds just too woo-woo. If there is a history of massage article, we could link to that. I also fuzzed out question of origin of earliest settlers. Most anthros say Marquesas; Tahiti migration is controversial. Zora 08:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious bits 

message: I added reference to the use of lomilomi with lua, Hawaiian martial art, and removed a commercial site for a practitioner in Germany.  Makana Chai 08:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The mechanics of colonics are in the book, Na Mo'olelo Lomilomi. Makana Chai 22:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Lua, Removed Commercial Web Site 

message: Due to new archaeological data (see Honolulu Advertiser, 3-10-06) removed reference to early settlers being from Marquesas or Tahiti and just left it at Polynesia.
Makana Chai 02:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated Migration Info 

message: From Olelo Noeau, Mary Kawena Pukui:  According to ancient legend, man did not have an anus and was not physically strong and well until Maui, the demigod, made the opening for him.  Makana Chai 01:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maui's anus 

message: Someone had gone over the article and rewritten much of it in an inflated, wordy style. I copyedited ruthlessly. There are also too many assertions, and quotes, that aren't referenced. We need to fix that. Zora 16:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 

message: Mahalo for the ruthless editing - much better now!  Citations now added.
Makana Chai 18:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: Although as stated in the text lomilomi is a spiritual practice, it is not accurate to translate the word lomilomi as spiritual massage. See Pukui & Elbert Dictionary. Makana Chai 18:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spiritual Massage