Talk:Prophet's Mosque

message: The bottom picture forces the top one too far to the right... someone should fix this. Xoder 21:52, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Tweaked, hopefully fixed. Please drop a note here if it gives anyone problems on their browser. Turnstep 02:22, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This must be one of the largest buildings in the world. Can someone add some statistics please? CalJW 17:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: Ok, so Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a very tourist friendly country, but is it open to non-Muslims?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.10.39.5 (talk) 13:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tourism

message: Calling it Masjid al-Nabawi will totalley change the meaning of the article, it's true when removing al from a single arabic word the meaning won't change, but it's not the same for a combined noun and adjective. for example the word al-Nabawi in al-Masjid al-Nabawi is an adjective, but when changed to Masjid al-Nabawi it'll become a noun and that changes the meaning, until the al before masjed is put back. so I advice using al in both words, and that goes for similar articles as well. AshrafSS 16:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Name 

message: Perhaps there should be something on the controversy in Islam around building over graves? I heard their prophet warned against it when he was dying.
:Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia; please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. In any case, where did you learn of this information about graves and Muhammad's warning against building over them? Could I see a source? Thanks Jamutaq (talk) 01:34, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grave 

message: I think that the newly created article Mohammed's tomb should be merged into this one as the tomb article would fit nicely into this one in terms of subject matter. MP   (talk) 13:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge the tomb article 

message: This page gives more info. about the mosque and it's history (one of the sources is WP itself, but there is another source) and this one provides some images of the mosque (have to check copyright though). MP   (talk) 13:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources and images 

message: The image of the mosque ia "above" the words "other mosques throughout the world" in the history chapter. Can someone fix it?--217.132.167.148 09:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The image

message: There was an article called Muhammad's tomb, which was barely a stub. The only useful content in it was:
* The sentence Outside of the Mosque a plaque reads "Inside here is bones and nothing more". I copied it here, but marked it as . Please check that it is correct.
* The photo, which i put in the description section. Please check that it belongs here and add a caption.
Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni 22:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from Muhammad's tomb 

message: The intro states that this mosque is the second holiest in Islam. Does that status not belong to the Dome of the Rock? Chesdovi (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it doesn't. The Al-Aqsa mosque is the third holiest. MP (talk•contribs) 19:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But there are reliable sources stating that this is so, see the info at Dome of the Rock I just readded. Chesdovi (talk) 00:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  A little clarification is in order here. The Al-aqsa mosque is the third holiest mosque, but the actual Dome of the Rock is the second holiest place. The mosque must not be equated with the precise location of the dome. Hope this helps. MP (talk•contribs) 20:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! By the way, what is the 3rd holiest place? Chesdovi (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're most welcome. I'm not sure what the third holiest place is. The Kaaba and the Dome of the Rock tend to be the ones most often discussed when considering 'holiness'. MP (talk•contribs) 20:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Not really MPatel. thestick (talk) 23:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Second holiest?

message: I have never heard of Hala Sultan Tekke and most likely, most other Muslims have never heard of it either. To state that it shares the status of the third holiest site of Islam with the Al-aqsa mosque is, at best, dubious. At the very least, it is not notable. However, see Holiest sites in Islam.. MP (talk•contribs) 20:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is notable, but it lacks renown because Al Aqsa mosque has become the "3rd holiest" after it was used as a political pawn at the start of the 20th century. Nevertheless, Al Aqsa is still only third in "virtue". No religious book mentions holiness per-se. I think that Shia also view Najaf or Karbala as their third “holiest” sites. Chesdovi (talk) 20:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not notable. Also, some 1400 year old sources like the Hadith and Quran mention several important vitues about the Al-Aqsa mosque and some events related to that site. The "Hala Sultan Tekke" is mostly non-mainstream/dubious/locally revered as the third holiest. thestick (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hala Sultan Tekke 

message: I realize it's the proper thing to do in Islam but having "Peace Be Unto Him" after every instance of Muhammad's name is rather distracting and prevents the article from flowing well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.110.204.129 (talk) 05:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Islam-related articles), the honorific "Peace Be Upon Him" "should generally not be used in articles". --Stormie (talk) 04:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Agreed, and it's also a violation of NPOV. Jamutaq (talk) 01:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distraction 

message: Or was he not bodily assumed into heaven at the location of the Dome of the Rock? Could someone clarify this for me? Thanks.
:According to the Muhammed article it was in Medina and is sourced from here. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 21:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Didn't Mohammed die in Jerusalem? 

message: I have removed the picture prominently showing a smiling pilgrim with Al-Masjid al-Nabawi in the background. This is entirely inappropriate for an encyclopedia as the image is of low quality and the focus is clearly upon the person and not the subject of the article. DO NOT replace this picture with out at least discussing the issues I have raised—Wikipedia is not a depository for tourist pictures. Xargon666x6 (talk) 22:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of pilgrim 

message: This picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tombstone_of_Umar_%28r.a%29_by_mohammad_adil_rais.JPG is identified in this article as the tomb of Muhammad, but the picture's caption says it's the tomb of Umar...?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.230.177.44 (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Picture 

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message: With all due respect, I will like to say that the editors and writers of this article should put Peace be upon him(shortly PBUH in parenthesis when referring to the holy prophet) or they can use a much easier form which is (S.A.W), abbreviation of the transliteration 'Sallalaahu Alaihi Wasallam' after his beloved name. Eg. Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) or (PBUH).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.217.133.252 (talk) 21:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that would be against Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Also, Muhammad isn't holy nor a prophit to everyone, just like Jesus isn't holy nor a prophit to everyone. No offense intended, just want to help clear up some possible misunderstandings. Jamutaq (talk) 01:30, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addressing the prophet 

message: I'd like to see a floor plan of the Mosque detailing the era of the different expansions. --Error (talk) 03:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map? 

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thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: After quite an extensive search on the web I couldn't find the official website of the mosque, is there any? Moughera (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Website 

message: The 5th Nizam of Hyderabad, Afzal Uddaula, built more than thirty buildings around Masjid Al-Haram and Masjid An-Nabawi for pilgrims visiting these holy places for Hajj.Nenetarun (talk) 12:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nizam's Rubath]] Suggestion 

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message: After reading the article it highly concerned me that every time the name of Prophet Muhammad was mentioned it only mentions the name, not the Prophet or PBUH or SAW. Now I saw arguments stating that He is not honoured to everyone so it's not mandatory to say the titles. I would like to state that whether other religious leaders or honourable person are not mentioned with titles we, muslims take this as a serious note and say Prophet before the name Muhammad(SAW). If you can't show minimal respect towards Him in an article related to Him and in such a big platform where many muslim may visit,,, then don't need to write anything about Him and His life.It's not any radical or irrational comment, I am just expressing my grief that how people wish cultures, outlooks and behaviours to be fixed and same. Our Prophet is special to us, just like our parents.So if you want to talk about my parents I expect you to honour them, and that's what we also want for our Prophet. 103.81.199.66 (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it hurts me to see the name of our beloved prophet mentioned without adding PBUH. We respect Jesus and Maria in the same way. 86.3.26.173 (talk) 22:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addressing the prophet 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved, to Prophet's Mosque. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Al-Masjid an-Nabawi →  – Or "Prophet's Mosque" if preferred. Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISH. 
The fact that the current lead gives the Arabic name in italicized transliteration and then says "known in English as the Prophet's Mosque" just further begs the question as to why the latter isn't the title, with the Arabic name given in the opening line per MOS:ALTNAME, as is usually the case. Online searches are imperfect, but as general indicators it's clear that the English names are more common in English sources:
* Google Books:
**Mosque of the Prophet (55,300)
**Prophet's Mosque (18,300)
**Masjid an-Nabawi (1,920)
**Masjid al-Nabawi (2,430)
**Al-Masjid an-Nabawi (1,130)
**Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (1,770)
* Google Scholar:
**Mosque of the Prophet (1,520)
**Prophet's Mosque (1,500)
**Masjid an-Nabawi (316)
**Masjid al-Nabawi (533)
**Al-Masjid an-Nabawi (240)
**Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (285)
* JSTOR (smaller academic database): 247 for Mosque of the Prophet vs 33 for Masjid al-Nabawi (feel free to look up the other variants).
* Ngram shows the same, but it has annoying quirks with hyphens and apostrophes. (I couldn't get the variants with "al-" before "masjid" to generate results, but given the results above they shouldn't hold any surprises.)
Notes: If you're looking directly at Google Books search results, toggle the "Tools" button to see the number of hits. All the searches above should be set to filter non-English results; but depending on your settings/cookies, you might see slightly different numbers, though proportionally about the same. Also, the search results overlap; e.g. the results for "Masjid an-Nabawi" also include results for "al-Masjid an-Nabawi". I'm providing all these variants just to reduce the chance of results being skewed by minor differences.
I have no strong feeling about "Prophet's Mosque" versus "Mosque of the Prophet". I picked the one that seems more common across most results above, but I note that the Ngrams seem to favour "Prophet's Mosque". I would equally support a move to the latter if responses below indicate a preference for it. R Prazeres (talk) 21:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Support Prophet's Mosque per Ngrams trend prevalence and brevity. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:33, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 August 2023