Talk:Chris McKinstry

message: What was his personal life? Did he have a wife or any children? Did he have many friends? What was his education? Where was he born?
Most of his life was in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Surviving family are his mother and brother, Andrew. Father left family when Chris and Andrew were young. The friends he had in Winnipeg he basically used til there were none left. His first 2 wives he met in Winnipeg. He divorced his first wife, then pleaded no contest to Abandonment when he fled Winnipeg leaving behind his second wife in debt.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.45.18.68 (talk) 06:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: Hours before he took his life, Chris spent some time on a forum discussing his planned suicide. 
While the group attempted to dissuade him, Chris ultimately succumbed to his own designs.  What is most noteworthy is his state of mind, which appeared no more unusual than his typical fair.  He made logical arguments, small jokes, and even went off on a few tangents.
While morbid, his final thoughts are an accurate representation of this peculiar (to put it lightly) man. I am surprised that there is no mention of this.  24.90.108.178 17:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No link to his final thoughts? 

message: Chris fled Winnipeg owing a lot of money to the CR6 creditors. Odd that the link to the Manitoba Court Registry would be taken out... Grub 17:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debt 

message: Read the two latest posts on http://www.mindpixel.com/chris/.
The forum he made his last known statements on has been taken offline permanently -- whether it's related to his suicide or not we weren't told.  I managed to grab PDFs of the posts at the last minute and am hosting them temporarily, but it's not an ideal solution. 81.159.213.154 00:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suicide? 

message: This article was nominated for deletion but the nomination was withdrawn by the nominator (me) following discussion and evidence of notability. See  --Misterwindupbird 16:29, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  nomination for deletion 

message: Suicide note  --Lumos3 23:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As we know, the above link is not working. Do you have it cached, or is there a mirror that you know of? --Amit 20:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suicide note

message: That is very sad. Why did he close down his mindpixel work in December?
:I haven't come across his suicide note, if there was one, but I think it is possible that he eventually realized that his project would never produce the broad AI he so desired. --Amit 20:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mindpixel December 2005 closure 

message: Whatever happened to the Mindpixel project? I expected to be able to find some information about the continuation/termination of the project. I haven't been able to find anything unrelated to Chris' death. It's weird, I've been following this for years and I was just checking in...
User:Mnemosign 06:02, 23 April 2006
:I don't know, the link is dead now, but one of the last things Chris did  (12 January) was link mindpixel to commonsense reasoning.  A bit freaky, since this means two of the three people who have edited that page so far have committed suicide. --Jaibe 20:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jaibe, yes, that is freaky (the other person being Pushsingh). It seems to me that AI researchers need to be more pessimistic than optimistic, because optimism there has only eventually led to suffering, for the past sixty years. More formally, they seem to expect a lot of reasoning from a little bit of data, whereas in my opinion the reverse really holds true. --Amit 20:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mindpixel dead? 

message: I was listening to NPR this morning and there was a story on a researcher who was trying to teach a robot like a child, based on the progression of a 14 month old boy.  Sounds like what Chris had proposed.  If memory serves correctly, it was being conducted at MIT and the robot's name is Ripley, after the character in "Alien". Cheri on July 10, 2006.
:This is interesting. I am not aware of what Chris had proposed, but to me teaching a robot like a child is not anything like Mindpixel. Mindpixel is assimilating the collective knowledge into a knowledge-base that can then be used to reason. Both approaches seem fundamentally different. --Amit 20:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other AI project 

message: The reference to item #11 ( http://www.dashslot.co.uk/chris-mckinstry.htm ) is down, it looks like the domain no longer belongs to the "original" owner.  Is there another link for this reference? MikeDawg (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I cant see why his bipolar delusions should make so much copy on this article?
Many A.I. workers have it, some who are also dead, possibly by suicide.
The notable thing about McKinstry was not his bipolar, which affects 1-2% of the populatiopn, but the pioneering attempts he made in knowledge based systems.
It is easier a stupid or deliberate attempt to alter what his relevance was.
The same attempt was made on Turing which concentrated on his homosexuality until a sustained campaign by Andrew Hodge and others reversed that.
I object to this disporportionate amount of bipolar references to technology and theory, as it lowers the content of wikipedia and clouds the contribution he made.
To cite the exact nature of his periodic illnesses at such length is sensationalism and diverting.
I am glad the move to delete this article has been repulsed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JF Ellis (talk • contribs) 14:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found the newspaper story of Chris McKinstry's armed standoff from The Globe and Mail, 1990 June 13, but a better direct link to archives (behind login wall) is needed rather than a copy in an old usenet group. "Tear Gas Ends 71/2 Hour Standoff At Downtown Gun Shop"  24.78.190.118 (talk) 05:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Didn’t take his girlfriend hostage, he broke up with her prior the event and had allegedly pistol-whipped her according to the trial transcript 2001:56A:F8BE:8B00:35A9:9B84:B35:F069 (talk) 02:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempts to discredit McKinstry 

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message: The recent investigation of Chris's internet soap opera, CR6, has offered more information on the show. There should thus be a section on it, providing some information gathered on it. It should also be more information on the fact that Chris lacks a death certificate. Soviet101 (talk) 15:42, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  CR6 

message: @65.94.104.215: You want this article to include the statement that no death certificate has been found. Under WP:ONUS, the burden is on you to justify why that is a) true and b) worthy of inclusion in this article. Could you please do so here, rather than edit-warring? Thank you.  -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death certificate 

message: There appears to be an article about McKinstry's death on page 3 of the January 26, 2006, edition of Las Últimas Noticias, titled "Asombroso álbum de fotos del científico que se suicidó" ["Amazing photo album of the scientist who committed suicide"]. There is another article about McKinstry on page 4 the next day (January 27). Nosferattus (talk) 05:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: can you provide, links? They could be helpful. 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing sources about McKinstry's death