Talk:USS California (ACR-6)

message: I can't find a reliable citation to this quote:
"On 9 April 1913, a liberty party from the U. S. S. California, including
Corrie, went ashore at Guaymas. A number of the men visited saloons and
came under the influence of intoxicating liquor. They caused some disorder
in the streets, and Cipriano Lucero interfered. He wore no uniform, but
his capacity of policeman was known at any rate to some of the seamen.
A struggle broke out between Corrie and Cipriano Lucero, the latter
trying to take from Corrie a beer bottle which he had in his possession.
During the struggle a number of beer bottles were thrown in the direction
of the fighters by some of the seamen. At least one of those bottles hit
Cipriano Lucero but without doing him any serious harm. Another bottle
hit Corrie, who staggered back and was seized by the right arm by a
member of the ship's patrol just reaching the scene of the disorder. Cipriano
Lucero then drew his revolver and shot Corrie, and as some of the seamen
and one Schlenther, belonging to the ship's patrol, attempted to disarm
Lucero, the latter fired another shot which instantly killed one Klesow,
master-at-arms, United States Navy, who was trying to push back sailors,
from the scene of the fighting."
I would be grateful if anyone can help me out. Thanks. Minimac (talk) 08:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been a while since you asked, but the incident is recounted in:  The quote, or a summary of it, should probably be moved back to the article page. Without meaning to minimize the tragedy, the current sentence in the article, "she was involved in an international incident in which two of her crew were shot and killed", while true, makes the event sound more sinister and extraordinary than two crewmen on liberty getting killed in an altercation. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:32, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice job. I'm glad you found a reference for it. I do remember back then trying to empty the backlog for citing quotes. I think what I forgot to do was remove the quotation marks while google searching, in this case missing out on that PDF file which proves to be a reliable reference. I think we can agree that the quote (or ideally a summary of it) is safe enough to be placed back on the article space. Minima© (talk) 06:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote that needs citing 

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message: USS San Diego (California) 
The following coordinate fixes are needed for
Berkin  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.17.242 (talk) 11:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinate error 

message: First it's said that a mine shouldn't hit a side of the ship, rather the front. That makes sende. If it's wrong, then it should be removed.
Then it's said it may have been a mine laid by U-156, but the problem with the mine hypothesis isn't addressed.
The fact that the U-156 is reported to have been there doesn't add anything, since it was always known that there had been mines in the area.
As such, all the U-156 hypothesis does is give a name to who may have been responsible for the mine hypothesis, which is itself flawed, unless it's the flaw itself that is not true.
I know of no sources discussing this problem, which puts WP in the usual quandary: to discuss things is OR, so incoherent things have to stand as they are.2001:8A0:F016:5100:159:914A:9933:801 (talk) 02:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause