Talk:Obi (publishing)

message: I registrated that Obis usually (always?) feature a price.
That made me guess, that CD-prices could be fixed in Japan like i.e. book prices in Germany.
In this case the Obis could be used as a cheap tool to enforce that fixed price. In the case
of a change of that price only the Obis and not the entire CDs would have to be reprinted.
Can anyone comment on this?
More generally, I would be more interested in the function Obis fulfill in Japan, Taiwan
and probably other countries than in the perception of Obis by western record nerds.
I would also be interested in the origin of the word.
:An Obi 帯 is the belt around kimono though I didn't know yet those were called Obi (in Japan too). The use of the obi is to avoid printing the ugly barcode on the cover itself (indeed it provides additional space for promo). → Tristan ♡ 14:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Function of obi

message: Thanks to all of you for the article! It seems to be pretty clear to me. When I lived in Hawaii, I would see these things on albums and never knew what they were. - Thanks, Hoshie 00:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks 

message: The article seems to suggest that the extra value of a Japanese edition to collectors lies primarily in the obi strip.  However, this is only one of several features that make the Japanese edition of recordings preferable.  As compared with western releases, they often contain additional bonus tracks, are usually accompanied by a complete lyric sheet in English with a Japanese translation, and are reputed by hifi connoisseurs to offer better sound quality.  The obi is only part of the entire value package.  Rodparkes 05:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Value of obi vs. other features

message: The last paragraph seems a bit out of place here, especially the last few sentences.
"Recently, Taiwanese perpetrators have been imitating the Japanese tradition by using paper title strips on their releases CDs of western artist's CDs, which are actually EU or US imports (since no CDs are pressed in Taiwan) that are repackaged in Taiwan with their printed in Taiwanese (all kanji with no katakana or hiragana) title strips. Let's not forget this fact. An obi is a term that is unique to Japan only. Much like the term Bourbon Whiskey (It must be made in the USA) The obi like strips on Taiwan or Korean cds cannot be called obi's. They are title strips or whatever they are called in their native language."
For starters, a simple Google search shows as the very first hit for '"obi strip" Taiwan' that Taiwanese releases of CDs have been using these strips since at least the early 90s, which I wouldn't call particularly 'recently'. And is there any evidence that these strips are a uniquely Japanese thing, as is stated here? And if so, is anyone able to add the names of these strips in their respective countries in exchange for that blasé or whatever they are called in their native language? That whole paragraph is bothering me really, it just seems a bit xenophobic, but I'm not sure if any of it is indeed fact or how to really phrase it in a better manner.Popsmin (talk) 03:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The last paragraph 

message: I've added a redirect to this article from Spine card It is a common alternative, non-japanese term used largely outside of Japan by importers of music and video games. It has significant G-Hits associated with the name as well . AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Spine card]] redirect

message: I disagree with the "Spine Card" redirect.  I argue that an obi is a type of "spine card" not an alternative name.  That said, I take the point that "obi" is a Western term adopted by the Japanese (but none of those I asked told me this - but I do not dispute this).  I have always considered "Obis" to be a Japanese spine card (ie. just one type of spine card).  There are plenty of non-Japanese CDs with spine cards, especially "mini LPs" including US and EU releases (see http://www.minilps.net/other-mini-lp/official-release.html for examples).  Personally I would not call these obis.  I would also not call Korean or Taiwanese strips "obis" as this is a Japanese word.
You are correct about the term "obi" now being the term all Japanese use for "tasuki". Even the Japanese record companies and consumers call them obi.
Some purists or people not up to date with the term obi still call them tasuki. The stiffer paper spine card on the mini lp cds and even cds are also called obi's in Japan as well. Yes, obi is a Japanese term for the title strip and should only be applied when referring to Japanese products. The Korean or Taiwanese title strips should be called whatever or however they are pronounced in their language. The Kanji Character for OBI is the same as in Chinese however it's not pronounced obi. I believe it is said or pronounced as DAI, rhymes with die. In Korean, I have no idea.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.174.227 (talk) 18:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment on [[Spine card]] redirect

message: Although Taiwanese speaks Chinese and uses Kanji, we have another name for this "obis" thing and it's called "側標" (ce　biao). We don't call it DAI. I think the explanation about Taiwan imitating Japan is too weak. Being occupied by Japan or Japanese has a long history in music industry is not proper evidence. This is wikipedia, not a forum for someone's theories. Besides, " (since no CDs are officially made for Taiwan market)" is only half true. Taiwan, like Japan, often release local limited edition of Western's popular artists because of major labels having branch companies here, and of course Taiwan gets many CDs of Western's (or Japan's) artists OFFICIALLY made in Taiwan with obis. And the tone of the writing is not neutral at all. So I'll delete that paragraph. Raura (talk) 10:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: This is not appropriate

message: This article has been slightly cleaned up due to a large number of unnecessary and "unencyclopedic" information. Please discuss if you have any problems or suggestions with the edit. Thank you. 24.98.201.105 (talk) 16:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup (April 2010) 

message: It's not clear from the article whether obis are included solely with Japanese releases of non-Japanese music - as a means of translating the packaging - or whether they are included with all music sold in Japan. I assume the Western collector market is only really interested in Japanese releases of Western music, which might explain why this isn't made more clear in the article; which is it? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are obis included with Japanese originals? 

message: This is what the disambiguation page states: Obi (publishing), an informational piece of paper or cardboard folded around or over a book or non-Japanese LP record, music CD, video game, or magazine. So obis are not likely to be found on Japanese LP records at all? Well, I'm having my doubts...-andy 77.190.27.216 (talk) 14:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Japanese ?? 

message: There are many CDs made in Korea that Japanese labels repack with new obi and insert and sell them at double price. Dixdre (talk) 14:50, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imported media with obi and inserted added for Japanese market

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