Template talk:NoCoins

message: I switched the decimal separators to come in line with SI standards, i.e. the point.  Comma separated would be fine too, but the interpunkt is not in common use and inapprorpiate for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.143.59 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Decimal Separator

message: I've attempted to condense this down to a much smaller template that gets the same thing across. I was unaware of the previous edits by 12.x.x.x, however I am not that dude and am not trying to start (yet another) measurements/edit war by my changes. 68.39.174.238 04:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large edit 

message: Would it be useful to have a link to each coin's article, where available?  I don't see how this chart is really helpful otherwise, as those unfamiliar with the penny, for example, would neither know what it looks like nor that it's worth 1¢. The image that brought me here is in the Asbestos article.  Though, this would be a backwards way of doing it.  Images of the individual coins in the template would be cumbersome.  I'm of the side that thinks that thinks that most people aren't needing absolute size when looking at an image, and there is an acceptable margin for most cases.  It's helpful to have anything in there at all.  Considering that the image in the asbestos article was taken by the US Government, it would be silly to wait for a replacement taken with a ruler by an individual. davewho2 12:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coin ID 

message: Now look what people are doing! 68.39.174.238 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, that looks like some sort of artistic statement about American culture than an attempt to indicate scale!  Seriously though, American banknotes are long and thin compared to most others I've seen, so it is quite misleading. — Chameleon 02:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARGH! 

message: The template states SI/metric units are the most commonly used worldwide (see metre, 1 E-2 m). However, the Manual of Style states clearly Conversions to and from metric and imperial/US units are generally provided. Shouldn't the template be changed to read similar to Please use markings in both SI/metric and imperial/US units if possible, but if this is not available use SI/metric units? CR7 13:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  That's too long-winded.  It is better just to point out that metric/SI units are more international.  — Chameleon 06:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But the Manual of Style recommends using both units where possible. CR7 13:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Computer case screws article, one uploader chose to show metric units for the items whose design is based on metric units, and imperial/US units are shown for items whose design is based on imperial/US units.  I find that practice to be the most representative.  With regard to images of precision-manufactured parts, I consider the best unit system to show is the one in which that item was designed.This, however, would not be representative of natural items such as biological structures, geologic features, or space-based phenomena because the dimensions of those items often vary between individual items and over time.  Cartographers have dealt with this exact same problem for centuries; we see it today as a scale bar.If Wikipedia aims to be encyclopedic, then it follows that its choice of measurement should be the most scientific, standardized, and precise units available: SI, preferably with measurement tools in the photo since photos have locational perspective and depth which can be distorted by photoshopped rulers.  Coins, paper money, decks of cards, matchboxes, etc. can be optional but are not compatible with basic encyclopedic expectations. -- 70.149.122.93 (talk) 23:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing more precise about SI units (or any unit, for that matter), since accuracy depends only on how small the measuring instrument is divided. Both sets of units are also standardized, particularly since the customary ones are defined in SI terms. Most people in the US have little use for SI on a daily basis, and since this is the English Wikipedia and almost half of English speakers live in the US, both sets of units are included. That said, I see little use for tagging these images as the coins are meant to give a rough estimate. A ruler might be preferable, but I wouldn't call coins unacceptable. PaulGS (talk) 05:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that estimates for the number of English language speakers varies from 500 million to 1.8 billion depending on definitions of literacy and other factors. The US population is about 300 million. So while it's possible almost half English speakers live in the US this is questionable. I'm including both native and non native speakers of course, since there's no reason to only include native speakers. Nil Einne (talk) 00:07, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Metric ruler

message: Coins change size over time - they are occasionally redesigned a different size either to reduce production costs, or because inflation has so reduced their value that it is inconvenient to carry such large coins for trivial value.  For example, the UK current 50p, 10p, and 5p decimal coins are all smaller than when decimal coins were first issued.  So if you read in a book written in 1979 that something was the size of a 5p piece - the author meant something much larger than a 2009 5p piece.
I think the template should be modified.  If giving sets of coins, it should state what version is referred to, and should also mention the change of size issue.--Toddy1 (talk) 07:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed.  Moreover, the new dodecagonal £1 coin has a slightly larger face than the circular one.  My inclination is to a note such as "coins in circulation as of mid-2017" to the template.  But there are still a few problems:
* Since both £1 coins are currently in circulation, I suppose it would mean giving the sizes of both, but what is the best way to notate this?
* How do we determine the diameter of a non-circular coin?  If it's a curve of constant width then it's easy, but the new £1 coin clearly isn't.
* Determining the size when older coins have been used in an image is more difficult – it would rely on the reader being able to identify which particular version has been used. — Smjg (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Coins change size over time

message: Like it says. - See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trona(small).jpg where I included the parameter . There is no description regarding the specified size like the NoCoins template description suggests. Jarod (talk) 15:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nm, the WikiCommons NoCoin template is different and doesn't take any parameters. But if it did... Jarod (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  <nowiki>{{convert}}</nowiki> parameter not displaying content