Talk:List of Indian poets

message: I am gradually going to start removing all the redlinks from this list.  If the listed poet is not notable enough for their own WP entry then it should not be listed.  This is simply a magnet for vanity. Gillyweed (talk) 03:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I have removed lots of recently-introduced redlinks from the Bengali poets list and will continue with the other sections. Seems that some relevant wikilinks have disappeared recently as well. --Bonadea (talk) 17:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be adding some redlinks, but only with footnotes indicating that the individuals are, in fact, notable poets. There's nothing wrong with redlinks to a notable subject, since we can expect to eventually have an article on it. That should avoid the notability/vanity problem. Almost all other lists of poets have red links, since there are more notable poets than we have articles for. See WP:REDLINK#When to create red links: Only make links that are relevant to the context. Please do create red links to articles you intend to create, technical terms that deserve more treatment than just a dictionary definition, or topics which should obviously have articles. I'm looking at an online book about Indian poetry which mentions prominent poets and finding some names not on this list. Here's a link to the book.  I think this addresses the objections above. -- Reconsideration (talk) 03:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

text: This link is also incredibly useful -- to the introduction and index of the Oxford Modern Poetry in English volume.  Reconsideration (talk) 05:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redlinks 

message: I rewrote the lead and hidden text, to avoid mentioning WP or WP instructions or guides for inclusion in the article itself, which is to be avoided. descriptions like "these are poets who have received major awards" , yes, but no language like "poets must have a major award to be included". I have put this type of hidden text at the start of EACH editable section for other articles, to be absolutely sure that people adding new names to sections towards the bottom of the list still read the hidden text. i will also trim out names without references. i really like the instruction to link birth and death years to xxxx in poetry. i havent seen that before, and it fits with my understanding of who should be linked to straight "year" articles, and who should be linked to "year in blablabla"Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:58, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, that was brutal but necessary. if any of the names i removed are notable, please add them back with solid references establishing notability, or just write an article on them. i clarified the hidden text and put it at the beginning of each editable section. hope this helps. my apologies if i removed any names which to the native speakers are clear candidates for articles, but we cannot tell if you dont show us.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 23:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, names are being added without citations. This is not a list of all published indian poets, but a concise list of notable indian poets. Since i cannot read any of these languages, i cannot judge if a poet is notable, but if a name is added without any reference, i will remove it. citation tags are for articles, not lists, as i understand lists to be collections of ALREADY cited sourced material.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  lead, hidden text 

message: There is separate article for the list of poets in some languages [e.g. Hindi, Punjabi]. So, can we remove the names in the current list. - Rajaram Sarangapani (talk) 06:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: List based on language

message: Need to organize the article in the following standard.
* Poet name
* Born and Death year
* Style of Poetry (ex; philosophical, social etc).
Kindly list below if any other opinions. :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 23:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organizing the article 

message: I intend to arrange the poets name in the count of 15. For example:
Kannada
# Kuvempu (1904-1994)
# D. R. Bendre (1896-1981)
# Gopalakrishna Adiga (1918-1992)
# V. K. Gokak (1909-1992)
# K. S. Narasimhaswamy (1915-2003)
# U. R. Ananthamurthy (1932- )
# Adikavi Pampa (902-975)
# Ranna (949-?)
# Janna (13th century)
# Harihara 
# Vaidehi (1945- )
# D. V. Gundappa (1887-1975)
# Purandara Dasa (1484–1564)
# Kanaka Dasa (1509–1609)
# M. Govinda Pai (1883–1963)	
 Dinakara Desai (1909-1982)
 Gangadevi (14th century)
 Gourish Kaikini (1912-2002)
 Kumara Vyasa (late 14th-early 15th century)
 Akka Mahadevi (1130-1160)
 Nagavarma I (late 10th-early 11th century)
 Nagavarma II (late 11th-early 12th century)
 T. N. Srikantaiah (1906-1966)
 B. M. Srikantaiah (1884–1946)
 G. S. Shivarudrappa (1926- )
 Allama Prabhu (12th century)
 Shishunala Sharif (1819–1889)
 Sarvajna (16th century)
 K. S. Nissar Ahmed (1936- )
Kindly advice before we proceed further. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  arranging poets names 

message: One will enjoy reading English Poetry of India of the following contemporary poets who have definitely made
significant contributions to the strengthen the roots of English Poetry in India. A few significant poets 
(that come to mind) of recent times - who have not been evaluated as yet properly and need further study, are:
Hazara Singh, HS Bhatia, I K Sharma Syed Ameeruddin, OP Bhatnagar, RK Singh, DC Chambial, PCK Prem, Mohammed Fakhruddin, Angelee Deodhar   (for Haiku),Kanwar Dinesh Singh,  Hetty Prim, PK joy, Motilal Jatwani, Jayanta Mahapatra, Pronab Kumar Majumder, Keshav Malik, Aju Mukhopadhyay,Niranjan Mohanty,  Darshan Singh Maini, Goal Honnalgere, Maha Nand Sharma, RV Smith,  Bibhu Padhi, K.V. Rughupathi, IH Rizvi, Nandini Sahu, SL Peeran, KN Sharma, TV Reddy, Dominic, Manas Bakshi, RK Bhushan, Asha Biswas, C Narayanswami and others. All these poets have more than five collections. Many critics have evaluated their poetic output and many have appeared in anthologies. ---added by P C K Prem (pckatoch). (Updated by Professor R.K. Singh)
:This is not a page for discussing poetry. It specifically for discussing how to improve this article. Do you have a specific suggestion or specificc reliably published sources that will help improve the article? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:46, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  comment from anon IP 

message: Does Wikipedia:LIST#List_layout "If the title does not already clarify what the list includes, then the list's lead section should do so. Don't leave readers confused over the list's inclusion criteria or have editors guessing what may be added to the list."  apply to this article requiring it to have a specified criteria? 
*Clearly yes - "Indian Poets" could mean many different things "Poets born in India" or "Poets who wrote in India" or "Poets who wrote in an Indian language" "Poets whose ancestors came from India" etc etc etc. Clarity for editors and readers on who should be in the article (and who should not be) is required and thus some type of criteria must be specified in the lead. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: your analysis may be beyond the current subject of the RfC which is whether or not a specific criteria for this list article is necessary or not. But, perhaps this article is better as a "List of Lists" that directs people to List of poets born in India, List of poets who first published in India, List of poets who wrote write/wrote in Indian Language X , List of poets who wrote write/wrote in Indian Language Y. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC

message: The RfC above is pretty clear that there is not consensus to ignore the Wikipedia:LIST#List_layout guidance: "If the title does not already clarify what the list includes, then the list's lead section should do so. Don't leave readers confused over the list's inclusion criteria or have editors guessing what may be added to the list." 
The next step would be to identify what criteria are appropriate for a List of Indian poets. There do not appear to be any Feature List quality addressing anything like Poets or Novelists or Writers from X to use as a guideline, but some other articles pretty much at random: 
*List of poets from the United States: "The poets listed below were either born in the United States or else published much of their poetry while living in that country."
*List of Irish poets: "This is a list of poets either born in Ireland or holding Irish citizenship. Poets whose work is in Irish are included."
*List of Persian poets and authors: "The list is not comprehensive, but is continuously being expanded and includes Persian writers and poets from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Syria, Afghanistan, India, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Lebanon, and Azerbaijan . This list is alphabetized by chronological order. Although a few authors in this list do not have their ethnic origin in the Iranian people, nevertheless they have enriched Persian culture and civilization by their remarkable contributions to the rich Persian literature. The modern Persian speaker comprehends the literature of the earliest Persian poets including founder of the Persian poetry and literature Rudaki[1] (approximately 1150 years ago) all the way down to the works of modern Persian poets. Some names that lived during the turn of a century appear twice."
*List of Russian poets "This is a list of authors who have written poetry in the Russian language." 
Any suggestions? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: step two - what criteria do we think are appropriate?

message: Please add Devarakonda Balagangadhara Tilak, Sirivennela Sitarama Sastry to the list of telugu poets
Rpodila (talk) 00:16, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Alexf(talk) 13:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2014 

message: Hi, just moved from :Category:Lists of Indian people to :Category:Lists of Indian poets, thx for taking notice, Roland zh (talk) 21:21, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  categories 

message: In "Gujarati" Section the "Joshi" is the surname of Umashankar Joshi, not "Umashankar". Gazal world (talk) 08:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction 

message: https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/बृज_किशोर_शर्मा this is also a poet Wikicontributorpedia (talk) 08:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2021 

message: Kavi Pradeep has written famous songs like Ae mere watan ke logo had written 1700 songs so he deserves a place in this list who so ever had made it. I request this amendment to the list. 122.168.239.252 (talk) 07:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have sources and an article in the English Wikipedia for this? -- Alexf(talk) 09:48, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kavi Pradeep should also be added to the list has written beautiful Hindi songs……. 

message: Study 117.209.133.21 (talk) 13:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social 

message: Inclusion of poet name
Ratan Bhattacharjee born 1967  Oleander Blooms ,3015(ISBN 978-93-5207-045-9)  Ballad of the Bleeding Bubbles ,2013 (ISBN-978-81-8253-446-9), Our Daughter Our Princess.2016,(ISBN 978-93-85945-61-8) , Renee Rudhagni2020,(978-9389615-43-5) 202.8.115.30 (talk) 04:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ratan Bhattacharjee may fail WP:GNG Lemonaka (talk) 10:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Not done: requester has not attempted to establish notability after several days. small jars tc 16:13, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2023