Talk:Tandoori chicken

message: This dish originated in Pakistani city Peshawar, like many other tasty meat dishes. I always knew that :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kohestani9 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely agree that the Gujral proprietary claim is highly dubious and unsubstantiated.  Tandoor is not a dedicated "bread oven"; impoverished families in semi-arid conditions would not relegate a major investment to simply making bread. Tandoori murgh is highly analagous to the traditional Farsi-Pashto dish of Jujeh Kebob.
I don't get the difference between chicken tikka and chicken tandoori. � Gulliver 	 10:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Chicken tikka is usually smaller bits of marinated skewered chicken done on a bbq, like brochette/souvlaki/etc. It can be served with or without the skewer. Tandoori chicken uses larger pieces (legs/breasts) or more often, the entire bird; and is cooked in a "tandoor" which is a large clay oven. Most restaurants save time by using the same marinade for both dishes. --LuciferBlack 23:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The "heat" of Moghul food varies between establishments.  Much to my dismay, turmeric is pretty much de facto in contemporary Indian cuisine.  Twenty years of eating Tandoori around the world, and I've yet to come across saffron-flavored Tandoori, because, as you pointed out, it's too expensive an ingredient for mass application.  Also, I'd doubt its ability to stand up to 400 degrees without deteriorating.  Can you provide examples of saffron used for this purpose?  I actually prefer using garam masala in the early stages of cooking; its effect is toned down in the final dish, which can then be better accentuated with fresher aromatics like lemon, mint, etc.   Garam masala, like most other spices can be used at any stage of cooking, depending on the cook's desired outcome.  Lastly, there are as many "authentic" recepies for garam masala as there are manufacturers, so good luck finding an ironclad list of ingredients without ginger/garlic/etc.  --LuciferBlack 03:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputable Claim 

message: It seems that now the meat dishes are becoming popular in India and the Indians have started to claim every fusion meat dish which were created in mostly Muslim kitchens during the Mughal Empire era. Zaman.hamad (talk) 01:22, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And Mughals were rulers of which region? Don't remove sourced content. You have to provide reliable source for your each claim. Thank you. --Human3015 It will rain  04:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

text: Read this article published in Pakistan's Dawn newspaper. Even they are saying that modern Tandoori Chicken is brainchild of Kundan. Mughal does had "Tandoor cooked chicken" but it was not today's "Tandoori Chicken". There is difference between "Chicken cooked in Tandoor" and "Tandoori Chicken". As per that Dawn article Tandoor cooked chicken exists since Indus Valley Civilization. But this article is about modern dish Tandoori Chicken. Still, current history section does refers Mughals. And just to clear you, Mughals were rulers of India, so USA or Argentina will not claim their legacy, it is India who will claim. --Human3015 It will rain  04:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claiming popular dishes

message: To all people making edits like crazy, it seems obvious that it was created in Peshawar based on the website of the restaurant. http://motimahal.in/about-us/
"Kundan Lal Gujral was born in the first decade of the twentieth century in Chakwal, Undivided Punjab (now in Pakistan). Having lost his father at the tender age of ten, he started looking for avenues to support the family. Kundan Lal was the first in Peshawar to dig a tandoor right in the middle of the eatery. Since then, Peshawar was introduced to the culinary art of Tandoori chicken by Legendary Kundan Lal. This was a grand success. Soon Kundan was in demand for Tandoori delicacy at social gathering and wedding feasts where he would use an improvised tandoor.
However, 1947 brought the tragedy of partition, forcing among others Kundan to flee to India. Uncertainty faced him as he had neither money nor resources to start afresh in life. Kundan dropped off in Delhi to try his luck. Roaming the streets, he chanced upon an abandoned Thara in Daryaganj, and then considered a newer part of old Delhi. Some inner voice told him this was the spot, which would not only rehabilitate him but also, who knows, the Dilli wallas would see merit in his Tandoori chicken."
This is directly from the website, all Indian vandal IP's understand that you might be banned if you keep up the flame war.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.74.230.80 (talk) 04:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop adding Pakistan, there was no Pakistan before 1947, it was British India. Gujral was born in British India not some Pakistan. Also, he was a Punjabi Hindu, stop removing his ethnicity and religion. 169.149.129.221 (talk) 09:45, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation in Peshawar 

message: I have reverted the article to a neutral state. There is no doubt that, according to the sources
* The dish was invented in Peshawar
* Peshawar at the time was in pre-partition India
* The restaurant location is now in Pakistan
* The dish is popular in both countries, and has been introduced to the rest of the world by restaurants run by people from both countries
The addition of fake sources to make it appear that the dish was invented in Daryaganj is completely unacceptable, and restoration of such content will result in the article being re-protected and/or those editors being blocked. Black Kite (talk) 12:56, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Peshawar

message: I have removed the youtube reference several times but it has since been readded a third time by . I'm not sure why this is being added so I am seeking clarification as it appears to have little encyclopedic value and violates Wikipedia:Video_links#References, per .  could you please explain further? Thanks! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: see page 6. Many reliable sources are stating Tandoor being originated in IVC. My Lord (talk) 16:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not debating that - I'm contesting the addition of a random youtube video. The work you're citing is preferential to YT. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that random videos are not a reliable sources. Issue seems resolved now. My Lord (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Except the YT video is still there. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:15, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. My Lord (talk) 17:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The intention of retaining the video was to have a reliable source. The video is of the archaeologist himself who led the research. Why doubt his words on a video but trust them when quoted in a newspaper?! Further, visual media makes a stronger and long lasting impression on any reader's mind than a newspaper clip. I strongly feel the YT video should be added to the good sources subsequently added by . Thanks. Choosetocount (talk) 22:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: YouTube and similar sites do not have editorial oversight engaged in scrutinizing content so editors need to watch out for the potential unreliability of the user uploading the video. There are channels for videos uploaded by agencies and organizations generally considered reliable such as that of the Associated Press on YouTube. My Lord (talk) 04:19, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube 

message: This exact same dish is being presented as both tandoori chicken and chicken tikka. Which one is it? JIP | Talk 16:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicate image 

message: Change “is” to “are” or rephrase plurality of raw “chickens” 180.131.213.139 (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect grammar in “preparation” 

message: The current infobox uses a incorrect parameter name. I suggest changing the line
| cuisine          = Punjabi, Pakistani Indian
to 
| associated_cuisine = Punjabi, Pakistani Indian
 RudolfSchreier (talk) 07:42, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 January 2023