Talk:The Everly Brothers

message: I'm certainly not the one best able to judge, but do the Everly Brothers really deserve the title "rock and roll"?  Weren't they MOR pop, even for the era? --Robert Merkel
:MOR didn't exist at the time; if anything, Perry Como was MOR
::I remember being in Ottawa, 1957, hearing a couple of local kids on their front step, strumming their guitar and singing... Claudette, pretty little pet, Claudette.... fantastic. It seems that you only appreciate the genius of music when you hear it performed live.
--Coasting
:::Was I too harsh in the article, then?  I can't imagine parents preventing their daughters from going to an Everly Brothers concert, unlike, say, an Elvis concert, but the operative word here is "imagine" when you're born long after the Beatles broke up :)  By the way, I'm not knocking the quality of their music - just because it wasn't as shocking as some doesn't make it inferior.  --Robert Merkel
::::Believe me, it was racy for its time. - Coasting
:::::Speshly when "Wake Up Little Susie" is brought into the equation - very daring for the 50's. Lion King 00:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, "Wake up Little Susie" was banned in Boston (which, in itself, is an illustrative phrase for anything onsidered in the least bit racy). But the term "rock & roll" was meant to illustrate (pardon my redundancy) the tempo of the music - and perhaps what it made people feel like doing.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd love to see some of your photos added to the article. Have a look at this how-to for instructions. Also, I think you can upload LP covers under fair use. Check out the details here. Acdixon 15:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Interesting explication, but for the purposes of our article, we follow what sources say, and I believe you'll find that the preponderance of sources refer to the Everly Brothers as rock 'n' roll. And what other bands are called in their articles should likewise follow what sources call them.  So if it is the case that The Beatles are referred to as rock, that's what their articles would say - that has no bearing, really, on what we say here. Not sure I agree with your premise anyway - but that's not relevant. Tvoz/talk 06:49, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

text: (And it's "Everly", not "Elderly" of course.) Tvoz/talk 06:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rock'n'Roll?

message: (continued from "rock + roll".
I understand copyright fairly well. For example I defend the right to share music between individuals. I've read the Wiki sections, and I feel using an LP cover does not meet fair use. It would not be for "critical review" of the LP or the photo. So if you think, you can easily upload cover art yourself. But convince me if you can. I'll get around to one of my photos. If the Everlys see it they might remember me walking around the stage that time.  George Slivinsky 18:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw a way to include the photo as part of the album discussion. If I pasted two scans I could have included the song titles. What do you think of this portrait compared to others?  George Slivinsky 04:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me. The article needed something. Thanks for your contribution and your recent work on the article. Acdixon 14:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos for the Article

message: I was never a big fan of the Everly Brothers, but the tone of the article seems rather snide to me.
:I agree, but things look differently in the rear-view mirror, especially if you weren't alive at the time - Coasting
:Well, could somebody else revise this more accurately?  I don't think I can write this article fairly, as to me these guys represent the epitome of 1950's white-boy dorkiness for all their undoubted vocal and compositional talents.  I *know* that isn't fair or accurate, but I'm simply not in a position to give a fair perspective --Robert Merkel
::I don't think the article is snide, nor inaccurate, nor in need of a revision. Thank you, Coasting. However, the disography could do with a minor addition.  In 1964, Warner Brothers published a collection of hits, "The Very Best of the Everly Brothers," D 103826. Tom Mehle
:::If it helps, I adore the Everly Brothers & I don't see anything nasty about the article.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone of article

message: Among singles, i really miss mention of ('Til) I Kissed You Written by - Don Everly Peaked at #4 - 9/59. --Jerzy (t) 06:42, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)
:Now you not only have mention of it but a sample. Hope no copyright issues arise. I agree with your attraction to it. (But bevare the WB rerecording).George Slivinsky 05:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Til I Kissed You

message: Should something be mentioned about the fact that they badly fell out and didn't talk to each other for (10?) years. 80.42.144.228 19:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rift

message: Could an Everlys expert please add to the songlist at Felice and Boudleaux Bryant? --Design 09:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do at some point, Design. Thanks for directing me to it - I'll add some more (but by no means all) of their songs to F&B's list at some point in the future. Bobo. 18:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Felice and Boudleaux Bryant

message: The album "The Real Ev Br" was not issued in 1958. It must have been a later recent reissue about that period. I have removed it. Allmusic makes mistakes too. Can be added when date is found.   George Slivinsky 07:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography - Albums

message: Is it not worth a mention that "Phil and Don" are right there in the lyrics of Let_%27Em_In by Paul McCartney?
206.248.152.57 03:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think so - I am trying to think of a way to put it in where influences are discussed.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "let 'em in" 

message: Under the early days section, it is noted that the Everly Bros entered the US Marine Corps.  Below that, it is stated that "after their army service..."   Which branch of the armed services did they enter?  It might be interesting to hear a bit about that part of their lives if any others have information on that topic. 74.45.242.100 02:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Army or US Marines 

message: :Image:Everly Brothers - Til I Kissed You.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 21:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Everly Brothers - Til I Kissed You.ogg

message: See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations & References

message: Until 1990, the Everlys were the most successful charting U.S. rock and roll duo on the Hot 100. In 1990, the Everlys tied for that position with Hall & Oates, who in 2005 had their 35th Hot 100 single.
Errr, I count the Everlys as having had 36 singles in the Hot 100, while in 2005, Hall and Oates made just their 34th entry.  (That's not counting Sara Smile twice for its two separate chart runs.)  Which still gives the Everlys the lead...  172.162.189.226 (talk) 02:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed a disputed 'fact'

message: I'm a bit disappointed that the sortable tables are in such poor shape. Will repair as time permits... in the next few weeks  Ling.Nut (WP:3IAR) 00:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables 

message: Did the Everly Brothers really play Woodstock, as a widely copied synopsis for the "Woodstock - Director's Cut" documentary claims?  If so this should definitely be significant enough to include.  Pete3194 (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Woodstock 

message: The entire article needs much more sourcing, but there is a desperate need for sources in "The break-up of the Everly Brothers". There is potentially controversial information in this section that violates WP:BLP. The only source was a link to a Wikipedia article about a book by the ex-wife of Warren Zevon, which is grossly inadequate as a source (for one thing, Wikipedia can't source itself). If someone doesn't begin to clean up this section soon, I plan to remove the entire section, per WP:BLP. 71.77.21.198 (talk) 01:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The break-up of the Everly Brothers 

message: It's seems a mystery on the number and names of Don's children. You say he has three daughters..but list only Erin and Stacy!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patmandy (talk • contribs) 18:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Who is "you" in "you say". Wikipedia is a collaborative project by anyone who edits. Feel free to find a source and change something. 71.77.20.119 (talk) 00:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don Everly's daughters 

message: Incorrect photo caption:
The picture that is marked "Everly Brothers in 2009" is not of the Everly Brothers.  The person on the left is Charlie Louvin, the surviving brother of the Louvin Brothers, another brother harmony act that was very influential in the 50's and early 60's.  I've met Charlie several times including backstage at the Opry.  Trust me that is Charlie and not one of the Everly's.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aep714 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect photo identification in the article. 

message: Get on it.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-phil-everly-of-the-everly-brothers-dies-at-74-20140103,0,2091176.story#axzz2pOkRSxY6  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.254.65 (talk) 03:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Can either of you read? Tvoz/talk 04:23, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phil Everly died you guise 

message: Do we really need two versions of the same image, one in the infobox and the other just a little lower down? Rothorpe (talk) 22:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicated image 

message: BBC is reporting that Phil smashed his guitar at Knott's farm.  Article currently says Don did, a complete reverse.  Strangely, an article version back in 2009 says Phil smashed the guitar, agreeing with the BBC.  So who?  C'mon, a WWE article would get it straight! Shenme (talk) 04:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch.  Looks like someone fixed it.  I wonder if it was simple vandalism since every source (other than Wikipedia) says it was Phil.  Viriditas (talk) 10:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who smashed the guitar? 

message: Someone added information about TKE to the beginning of the article.  Clearly, it does not belong there.  If someone wants to incorporate this information into the appropriate chronological location, preferably in a paragraph about their college experience, that would be fine.  Otherwise, I'm leaving it here below for inclusion. Viriditas (talk) 10:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Phil and Don Everly were members of Tau Kappa Epsilon (TKE) Fraternity. Both brothers were members of the Gamma-Rho chapter, Indiana State University.
()
Good point - I took care of this. Couldn't find more on their college experience at first look, but perhaps that can be expanded.  I also separated out the 1950s because it was buried as "early career" which doesn't work given the importance of their work at that time. Tvoz/talk 00:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  TKE  

message: The article in Rolling Stone does quote Phil Everly as saying he attended the funeral of Buddy Holly in Lubbock, Texas on February 7, 1959.  However, the quote also relates that Phil "sat with Maria Elena Holly and Buddy's parents."  While memories at times become confused, and details blur with time, numerous sources make a clear reference to Mrs. Holly not attending the funeral.  
I don't doubt for a moment that Phil was there, or that he sat with Holly's parents.  I do not believe he sat with Mrs. Holly as she was not there. Lubbock Online
 
It's not earth shattering however it is worth noting.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.214.59.201 (talk) 14:35, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there is serious contradiction, and we don't know what is correct, and her presence is not particularly notable to his life, I say we edit it to not say one way or the other if she was there. How important is this to Phil's life? Not very.  May be a bigger deal in Buddy's bio. Tvoz/talk 20:35, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddy Holly Funeral 

message: The sentence  Actor James Best (born Jules Guy), also from Muhlenberg County, was the son of Ike's sister.  appears in the first para of the 'Family' section. Seems a little superfluous, out of place? Perhaps a mention that he was their cousin, further down? Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Best Comment 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on The Everly Brothers. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140111061023/http://blogs.sacurrent.com/sasound/phil-everly-of-the-everly-brothers-dead-at-74/ to http://blogs.sacurrent.com/sasound/phil-everly-of-the-everly-brothers-dead-at-74/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131224004705/http://www.vocalgroup.org/inductees/the_everly_brothers.html to http://www.vocalgroup.org/inductees/the_everly_brothers.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:35, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Both brothers were left-handed. They were told by their father to play right-handed, probably because special guitars for left-handers were scarce und unaffordable (at that time, most kids were also taught to write right-handed). Not mentioning the left-handedness in the article is proof to me that left-handers are the only minority no-one will ever make a fuzz about.
Quote from Don Everly: 'I was left-handed and my father said, “You gotta learn it right handed. They’ll call you lefty otherwise.” So I play right, but I’m left-handed. Everything else, I’m totally left-handed. It’s a screwed up world for left-handed people.' [] -- 2003:E5:172E:CA3A:DDBE:3CA0:96E2:F6F4 (talk) 06:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left-handers 

message: Mention should be made of both brothers' wives and children.   Encyclopedia Britannica states:
Don married Sue Ingraham (divorced, 1961); married second wife, Venetia Stevenson (divorced); married third wife, Karen Prettyman (divorced); children: three girls, one boy; Phil married Jackie Ertel (divorced); married second wife, 1971 (divorced); children: (first marriage) Jordan, Patricia, Mickey; (second marriage) Christopher.
Might any have had musical careers? Brenont (talk) 00:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wives and children 

message: Hi, could we add to the article the argument that the Everly Brothers were an early version of Rockabilly?  Or a least, an influence that lead to Rockabilly? SurgeArrest (talk) 15:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that the Rockabilly article just mentions them in passing as a '70s revival thing, maybe not. But if you good sources describing that influence, sure. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 15:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Rockabilly ?

message: Why no information? 69.169.8.58 (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage, Children? 

message: Hello.  I changed the Born Yesterday release year to 1986. The album was copyrighted in 1985, and I found a Times (UK) review from December 1985, but not sure if that was a pre-release review.  Another article, from the Daily Breeze, mentioned an Oct 1985 release date, which didn't happen, at least in U.S.  Please correct if anyone knows for sure.  It seems certain that it was released in U.S. in 1986.  Thanks. Caro7200 (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born Yesterday release