Talk:List of United States Naval Academy alumni

message: I have added Jake Huard from the film Annapolis to the list of fictional alumni although he is only portrayed fictionally as a Midshipman. It occurs to me that perhaps there should be an additional list, linked here and to the Midshipman article, of Notable Fictional Midshipmen. This would also include non-Academy midshipmen such as Frederick Marryat's Mr Midshipman Easy and C.S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower (Mr. Midshipman Hornblower). Personally I would only include fictional characters who have an entire book or film about them, and I would not include fictional characters who were a Midshipman earlier in their lives such as Jack Aubrey or Nicholas, Lord Ramage. Please share your thoughts... Ray Trygstad (talk) 18:41, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Fictional Midshipmen?

message: Appending "lost" remarks (aka Lessons Learned) during this sections spin-off process! It's another example of style concerns taking defacto priority over fact (substance) verification.
The adult lifelong learning (ALL-WinWIn) connections and mentoring relatonships with faculty are obscured. The eidting history of participating contributors also gets disconnected ...    
Added category & linkage back to main article from which this listing was correctly cloned. 
RJBurkhart 11:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As usual with these articles, people are now trying to include "everybody" who has squeaked by with an article. Probably should be renamed "most notable graduates". There are lots of 3-star admirals who aren't in here because they aren't famous for anything! Now someone is trying to put in a member of the Wyoming legislature. Gets down to the level of preposterous after a while IMO. Student7 (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's standard for any kind of list of notables. If there are admirals who you think deserve articles that don't have them then create those articles.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 19:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't complaining! Some of these admirals just didn't serve when anything crucial was happening. Very capable people, but 3 and 4-star adimiral are common from USNA! Can't have them all! And yes, some deserve articles but just not in this list IMO. (Just read about WP:SEH. Too bad they don't have that for notables!   :)Student7 (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Forking

message: The "Graduates famous outside the Navy" should probably me merged with the the other notable graduates.  Jimmy Carter certainly acheived his greatest notoriety oustide the Navy, yet is not in the outside the Navy group.  John McCain is notable both for his naval service and his post-naval career.  
Only three astronauts among dozens graduated from the Academy are listed. One of the most well known USNA graduates, astronaut James Lovell is not listed. A deputy assistant cabinet secretary is listed, but 5 secretaries are not.  
The whole list needs to be rationalized in terms of who to include, and their organization. 24.209.173.129 06:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As usual with these articles, people are now trying to include "everybody" who has squeaked by with an article. Probably should be renamed "most notable graduates". There are lots of 3-star admirals who aren't in here because they aren't famous for anything! Now someone is trying to put in a member of the Wyoming legislature. Gets down to the level of preposterous after a while IMO. Student7 (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's standard for any kind of list of notables. If there are admirals who you think deserve articles that don't have them then create those articles.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 19:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't complaining! Some of these admirals just didn't serve when anything crucial was happening. Very capable people, but 3 and 4-star adimiral are common from USNA! Can't have them all! And yes, some deserve articles but just not in this list IMO. (Just read about WP:SEH. Too bad they don't have that for notables!   :)Student7 (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PDLog for USNA notable graduates section 

message: The article will have to be renamed, or the faculty moved back to the main article, or a separate article created for them.  Were these two men even on the faculty?-- the included information is not clear. Given that only two supposed faculty are named, a separate page does not seem warranted yet.  Also, the faculty section contains some irrlevant (to a list of notable graduates) bits of history (e.g. increased importance due to the Spanish American War) which should be in the main article, not here.--MayerG 16:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Faculty; History

message: I think all Medal of Honor winners should be in here. There are quite a few.Student7 01:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Medal of Honor winners

message: Maybe should poll these separately, but thought that Rhodes scholars should be a forked article from here. An article because having many Rhodes scholars is indicative of scholarship and forked because of their young ages. They really don't merit an article based on the Rhodes scholarship alone. I wanted to note that in an imbedded comment and discussion in the new article. 
Also, not many all-Americans (sports) figures listed. I think they should be in this article but don't want to overload it. Don't know how many there are!
I would think we should list the "three state governors" mentioned in the USNA.org history. I think the "200 congressmen" should also be listed BUT if done all at once would tend to overwhelm this list of naval VIPs. Your thoughts? (BTW I have no pointer to such a list and therefore might not be able to implement it that fast anyway). Student7 21:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rhodes scholars, all-Americans, politicians

message: ===Athletes and Astronauts===
*Mike Foreman, (1956- ), Class of 1979- Astronaut
**You mean him: Michael Foreman? -MBK004 03:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On astronaut list.  — Rlevse • Talk •  01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On list, but military history of his needs added to article.  — Rlevse • Talk •  01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Alumni who need articles created or valid refs

message: *Mike Foreman, (1956- ), Class of 1979- Astronaut
**You mean him: Michael Foreman? -MBK004 03:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On astronaut list.  — Rlevse • Talk •  01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On list, but military history of his needs added to article.  — Rlevse • Talk •  01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Athletes and Astronauts

message: *This: "As of January 2006, four graduates were honored as Bioneer EarthSea-Keepers, a new UNEP designator for notable oceanographers." needs a citation.  — Rlevse • Talk •  17:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Oceanographers

message: Needs a reliable ref: 
 — Rlevse • Talk •  00:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Academics

message: * CAPT Homer A. McCrerey (1919-1999), Class of 1942 - Fleet Meteorologist and oceanographer (FNMOC) (1967-1972), needs rel source
 — Rlevse • Talk •  10:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Science

message: *Vice Admiral Peruvian Navy Guillermo Zariquiey, (1936-2005), Class of 1958 - Chief of Staff and Commander of Naval Operations Peruvian Navy, Ecuador - Peru war veteran...needs article and ref
 — Rlevse • Talk •  11:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Joint Chiefs

message: *William H.G. FitzGerald, class of 1931 and ambassador to Ireland, FitzGerald scholar.  — Rlevse • Talk •  12:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambassador

message: *Frank Shakespeare '53, William Fields '54, James Dunbar '55, Richard Murphy '54, Robert Detweiler '53, Henry Procter '54, Wayne Frye '54, Edward Stevens '54, Charles Manring '52 - members of the crew team winning the gold medal in the Summer Olympics, Helsinki 1952.
*Peter Blair, Class of 1955 - Bronze medal light heavyweight wrestling, 1956 Olympics. Elected to Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association (EIWA) Hall of Fame.
* Carl T. Osburn, Class of 1907, winner of five Olympic gold medals, four silver, and three bronze for rifle, in 1912, 1920 and 1924.
 — Rlevse • Talk •  21:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Olympians

message: *Lieutenant Wilburn B. Hall, appointed to USNA from Louisiana in 1855, graduated at the head of his USNA class of 1859. He was the flag-lieutenant to Commodore Inman, commanding the squadron on the African coast at the outbreak of the war. After he helped capture a slave ship with 700 slaves on board and took the ship back to Africa, delivering them to the Liberian government, he then went on to become the first Commandant of Midshipman of the Confederate States Naval Academy.
 — Rlevse • Talk •  03:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Civil War

message: *Commander Stephen G. Foti, (1949- ) Class of 1972 - Saved the Lives of 17 U.S. Marines off the coast of Beirut, Lebanon while aboard USS Manitowoc (LST -1180) as the Ship's First Lieutenant and Combat Cargo Officer.
 — Rlevse • Talk •  03:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lebanon

message: * Colonel Harry L. Hawthorne, USA, Class of 1882, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Wounded Knee 1890
 — Rlevse • Talk •  14:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: MOH Wounded Knee

message: * Commander Willis W. Bradley, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions aboard the USS Pittsburg in extinguishing a dangerous fire after an explosion rendered him temporarily unconscious.
 — Rlevse • Talk •  02:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: MOH and Legislator

message: * Admiral Herman O. Stickney, Class of 1888, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Commander William K. Harrison, Class of 1889, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* LCDR Rufus Z. Johnston, Class of 1895, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Commander Allen Buchanan, Class of 1899, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant James P. Lannon, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant Adolphus Staton, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant Julyius C. Townsend, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant Richard Wainwright, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant Charles C. Hartigan, Class of 1906, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Lieutenant junior grade George M. Courts, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914 
 — Rlevse • Talk •  02:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: MOH Vera Cruz

message: * Captain William R. Rush, Class of 1877, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Vice-Admiral Harry M. P. Huse, Class of 1878, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Admiral Edwin Anderson, Jr., Class of 1882, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Brigadier General Albertus W. Catlin USMC, Class of 1890, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* LtCol Wendell C. Neville, USMC, Class of 1890, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Captain Frederick V. McNair, Jr., Class of 1903, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Admiral Jonas H. Ingram, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
* Vice-Admiral Theodore S. Wilkinson, Jr., Class of 1909, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914 
 — Rlevse • Talk •  01:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Future use

message: *James F. McGovern, Class of 1969, Secretary of the Air Force 1988-89  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: SecAF

message: Robert McFarlane, John Poindexter, Oliver North, John McCain, James Webb. All five are covered in detail in this book. Page 31 for McCain, 13-14 for the others. North and Webb class of 1968, Poindexter and McCain 1958, 1959 for McFarland. — Rlevse • Talk •  01:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Nightingale's Song

message: FYI all: See Wikipedia_talk:Featured_list_candidates#Alumni_list_order. I am working on List of United States Naval Academy alumni to get it to FLC and then plan to work on List of United States Military Academy alumni. I think it'd be good if they were set up as similar as possible.  — Rlevse • Talk •  04:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI, here is the list for the Air Force Academy: Graduates of the United States Air Force Academy. Planning a Featured Topic on service academy alumni lists? -MBK004 04:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It did cross my mind. The AF article should be renamed for conistency. I can't find Coast Guard or Merchant Marine equivalents either. — Rlevse • Talk •  04:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Since the grad order is being used in the others, that should be how we do it here, I've already done that for the Astronaut section. Missing articles would depend on the number of alumni we can find. -MBK004 20:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: what about topic order?  — Rlevse • Talk •  20:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is where I don't have much of a clue. Perhaps a question for WT:FLC? -MBK004 21:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Alumni sort order

message: #AF alumni article needs renamed for consistency
#AF and USMA are in grad order. Should we keep alpha and change them or change USNA to grad order
#What order should the topics be in (Nobel, Astronauts, etc)
#Coast Guard and Merchant Marine don't have alumni articles, just sections in their academy articles
 — Rlevse • Talk •  12:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the grad order is being used in the others, that should be how we do it here, I've already done that for the Astronaut section. Missing articles would depend on the number of alumni we can find. -MBK004 20:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: what about topic order?  — Rlevse • Talk •  20:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is where I don't have much of a clue. Perhaps a question for WT:FLC? -MBK004 21:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Other stuff

message: If we add a non-graduate section, we can include Todd Peterson (place kicker)  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Non grads

message: I don't have the time to write up the minibios at the moment, but these people are missing from the US Ambassadors section:
Alan G. Kirk - Class of 1909
    Belgium, 1946-1949
    Soviet Union, 1949-1951
    Republic of China, Taiwan, 1962-1963
    Source: http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn_usemb_chiefs.html 
    Source: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/ministers-and-ambassadors.html 
Vincent Obsitnik - Class of 1959
    Slovak Republic, 2007-2009
    Source: https://www.usna.com/SSLPage.aspx?referrer=NewsServicesOP&pid=7847
Also USNA Institutional Research includes both on their listings of alumni.
Raine (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing

message: Unlike other lists of notables, these people must be notable outside of the Naval Academy. Supes and Commandants, except in the early days, are all graduates of the Naval Academy. Therefore they cannot be placed here for serving in those positions. There must be some other notable reason. Nationally known athlete, politician, etc. Student7 (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Supes and Commandants

message: Where could we add Charlie Collins (politician)?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where could we add [[Charlie Collins (politician)]], a state politician? 

message: I propose the addition of a section for recipients of the Leftwich Trophy under the Military figures category. The Leftwich Trophy commemorates the service and leadership of William Groom Leftwich, Class of 1953. The annual award recognizes one outstanding Marine captain serving in a ground combat MOS, so I believe it fits the requirement for being famous outside the Naval Academy.  Below is a current list of nine Academy graduate recipients, out of 36 total to date.
The above list was generated by looking up each recipient in the Alumni lookup feature on the United States Naval Academy Alumni Association and Foundation website.--KMJKWhite (talk) 15:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leftwich Trophy Recipients