Talk:Raj Darbhanga

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message: In Culture and Maithili language section it is stated that Darbhanga royal familily belong to Kayastha caste.In religion section it is stated that they belong to Maithil Brahmin caste. In Bihar, popularly people believe that they belong to Bhumihar Brahmin caste.Thus caste status of Darbhanga royal family needs to be clarified in the Article.Rajesh Kumar69 (talk) 07:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: They're neither Kayastha nor Bhumihar. They were Maithil Brahmins in all official sources. Death$tar (talk) 21:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Mithila Brahmins have been known to read both Scriptures and Own Lands for ages unlike Bhumihar Brahmins who were not known for priestly work. Even Shiva Singh of Oiniwar was Mithila Brahmin before this one was established. Death$tar (talk) 21:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caste of Darbhang royal family 

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message: There's no evidence rule of Darbhanga in parts of Nepal neither was it gifted by British. Nepal's Eastern Terai was ruled from 1786. From at least 1786 onwards, the Shah rulers appointed government officers in the eastern Terai districts of Parsa, Bara, Rautahat, Mahottari,  Saptari and Morang to levy taxes, collect revenues, and capture elephants and rhinos. But as reward for Nepal's military aid in the Indian Rebellion of 1857, they returned some of this region in 1860, namely today's districts Kanchanpur, Kailali, Banke and Bardiya. So Mithila was never gifted. I'm removing the vague claim with its unviewable source whoever had add this part. Airkeeper (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm removing a vague claim from an unviewable source 

message: Multiple sources use the term "kingdom" as opposed to zamindari which was merely a British term. Raj Darbhanga has existed since the 1500's much before the arrival of the British:
From Bihar and Mithila: The Historical Roots of Backwardness: Part of the success of the raja of darbhanga lay in the fact that many of his rights and privileges were significantly different from those of most zamindars, large and small. litigation in the British courts reaffirmed these rights, which, just like the ... The rajas had to accept that they would no longer be permitted to exist apart and separate from the greater political machinery of the State, as Stephen henningham suggests, 'as a raj within a raj – a kingdom within the kingdom'.35
Source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HjElDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA269&dq=raj+darbhanga+kingdom&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0d_-94zaAhWON8AKHaxxCxsQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=raj%20darbhanga%20kingdom&f=false
From Land and Society in India: Agrarian Relations in Colonial North BiharThe management of Hathwa raj developed into a kingdom, like the Darbhanga raj.
Source:https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2b_j0mNe2FwC&pg=PA37&dq=raj+darbhanga+kingdom&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0d_-94zaAhWON8AKHaxxCxsQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=raj%20darbhanga%20kingdom&f=false
From District administration in Bihar: changing contours:"According to the Mulla Bakhtiyar Khiljianncxed the territory of Narsimha deva but later on restored the kingdom of Darbhanga to the Raja on condition of payment of some Tribute."
Source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=N0OOAAAAMAAJ&q=raj+darbhanga+kingdom&dq=raj+darbhanga+kingdom&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0d_-94zaAhWON8AKHaxxCxsQ6AEIPjAE
From: Language, Religion and Politics in North India: Sarkar of Tirhut was practically an independent kingdom by the eighteenth century.
Source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SylBHS8IJAUC&pg=PA58&dq=raj+darbhanga+kingdom&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0d_-94zaAhWON8AKHaxxCxsQ6AEISDAG#v=onepage&q=raj%20darbhanga%20kingdom&f=false
:Zamindar is not a British term - it predates the Brits in the subcontinent and many, many sources calls them zmaindars. They were petty rulers and thus it is inevitable that some sources will refer to them as kings but in practice their status was governed as feudatories of the Mughal Empire. And including books published by iUniverse in your list is not helpful - it is a vanity press. I will grant you that one source in your list says something of note that probably does need to go in the article and may go some way to providing a nuanced statement - see this bit of it. - Sitush (talk) 00:11, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom vs Zamindari 

message: Topic about restoring previous ruler section which was removed for no valid reason. Death$tar (talk) 19:59, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @IxudiI am going to start with this thread here. The Ruler section was removed including the founder, Raja Mahesh who is mentioned in the source, "Political History of Khandavala Dynasity [sic] in Mithila, 1556-1793" in page no. 15 and 19. Death$tar (talk) 20:02, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll also add that I've not replaced the template, it's the original one that was always there. Death$tar (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

text:  Could you be clearer, please? What "banned user"? What are the diffs of Death$tar and the banned user that show the restoration?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:18, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, I figured it out, you really meant banned (topic banned), so many users incorrectly say banned instead of blocked, so I was looking for a blocked user. Thanks for the heads up.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:57, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

text: I only restored what was already there way back when I visited this article months ago. I don't know which banned user you're talking about but when I came in here, there was only 4 rulers. Do you really think in their almost 400 years rule there will only be 4 rulers? The sources aren't poor. They're valid sources. Death$tar (talk) 20:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I added one more ruler of Raj Darbhanga (Khandavala Dynasty) whose page already existed. Death$tar (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruler Section Restoration