Talk:Leaf-nosed bat

message: You mention that the family Phyllostomidae represents "by far the most varied and diverse" family within the order Chiroptera.  If by varied and diverse you mean ecologically, then this statement would be correct; however, Phyllostomidae is not the most taxonomically diverse family (Vesptertilionidae has over 300 species, and Pteropodidae tops 160).  So, I would advise a more precise use of wording here. --Tomwithanh 20:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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Range
Rojas, D., Moreira, M., Ramos Pereira, M.J., Fonseca, C., Dávalos, L.M. Updated distribution maps for neotropical bats in the superfamily Noctilionoidea (2018) Ecology, 99 (9), p. 2131.
Ho, Y.-Y., & Lee, L.-L. (2003). Roost Selection by Formosan Leaf-Nosed Bats (Hipposideros armiger terasensis). Zoological Science, 20(8), 1017–1024. https://doi.org/10.2108/zsj.20.1017
Villalobos, F., & Arita, H. T. (2010). The diversity field of New World leaf-nosed bats (Phyllostomidae). Global Ecology and Biogeography, 19(2), 200–211. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1466-8238.2009.00503.x
Evolution of 
Baker, R. J. . (2003). Diversification among New World leaf-nosed bats: an evolutionary hypothesis and classification inferred from digenomic congruence of DNA sequence. Occasional Papers - Museum of Texas Tech University. Retrieved from http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/publications/opapers/ops/op230.pdf
Baker, R. J., Bininda-Emonds, O. R. P., Mantilla-Meluk, H., Porter, C. A., & Bussche, R. A. V. D. (2010). Molecular Timescale of Diversification of Feeding Strategy and Morphology in New World Leaf-Nosed Bats (Phyllostomidae): a Phylogenetic Perspective, 26. https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9781139045599.012
Rossoni, D. M., Assis, A. P. A., Giannini, N. P., Marroig, G. (2017). Intense natural selection preceded the invasion of new adaptive zones during the radiation of New World leaf-nosed bats. Scientific Reports. 7 (11076). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-017-08989-6
Human Impact
Williams‐Guillén, K., & Perfecto, I. (2010). Effects of Agricultural Intensification on the Assemblage of Leaf-Nosed Bats (Phyllostomidae) in a Coffee Landscape in Chiapas, Mexico. Biotropica, 42(5), 605–613. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1744-7429.2010.00626.x
Anatomy (nose facts) 
Yohe, L.R., Hoffmann, S., Curtis, A. Vomeronasal and olfactory structures in bats revealed by dicect clarify genetic evidence of function (2018) Frontiers in Neuroanatomy, 12, art. no. 32, .
Dumont, E. R., Samadevam, K., Grosse, I., Warsi, O. M., Baird, B., & Davalos, L. M. (2014). Selection for Mechanical Advantage Underlies Multiple Cranial Optima in New World Leaf-Nosed Bats. Evolution, 68(5), 1436–1449. https://doi.org/10.1111/evo.12358
Stockwell, E. (2001). Morphology and flight manoeuvrability in New World leaf-nosed bats (Chiroptera: Phyllostomidae). Journal of Zoology, 254(4), 505-514. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0952836901001005
Diets 
Kries, K., Barros, M.A.S., Duytschaever, G., Orkin, J.D., Janiak, M.C., Pessoa, D.M.A., Melin, A.D. Colour vision variation in leaf-nosed bats (Phyllostomidae): Links to cave roosting and dietary specialization (2018) Molecular Ecology, 27 (18), pp. 3627-3640.
Elangovan, V., Marimuthu, G., Kunz, T.H. Temporal patterns of resource use by the short-nosed fruit bat, Cynopterus sphinx (Megachiroptera: Pteropodidae) (2001) Journal of Mammalogy, 82 (1), pp. 161-165.
Korine, C., & Kalko, E. K. V. (2005). Fruit detection and discrimination by small fruit-eating bats (Phyllostomidae): echolocation call design and olfaction. Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology, 59(1), 12–23. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00265-005-0003-1
Behavior 
Hiryu, S., Katsura, K., Nagato, T., Yamazaki, H., Lin, L.-K., Watanabe, Y., & Riquimaroux, H. (2006). Intra-individual variation in the vocalized frequency of the Taiwanese leaf-nosed bat, Hipposideros terasensis, influenced by conspecific colony members. Journal of Comparative Physiology A, 192(8), 807–815. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00359-006-0118-5
Jiang, T., Liu, R., Metzner, W., You, Y., Li, S., Liu, S., & Feng, J. (2010). Geographical and individual variation in echolocation calls of the intermediate leaf-nosed bat, Hipposideros larvatus. Ethology, 116(8), 691–703. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1439-0310.2010.01785.x
Life Cycle
Crichton, E. G., & Krutzsch, P. H. (1985). Reproductive biology of the female leaf–nosed bat, Macrotus californicus, in southwestern united states: I. A morphometric analysis of the annual ovarian cycle. American Journal of Anatomy, 173(2), 69–87. https://doi.org/10.1002/aja.1001730202
Jin, L., Lin, A., Sun, K., Liu, Y., & Feng, J. (2011). Postnatal development of morphological features and vocalization in the pomona leaf-nosed bat Hipposideros pomona. Acta Theriologica, 56(1), 13–22. https://doi.org/10.1007/s13364-010-0011-z
Social Behavior
Porter, F. L. (1979). Social Behavior in the Leaf-Nosed Bat, Carollia perspicillata. Zeitschrift Für Tierpsychologie, 50(1), 1–8. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1439-0310.1979.tb01012.x
Chaverri, G., Gillam, E. H., & Vonhof, M. J. (2010). Social calls used by a leaf-roosting bat to signal location. Biology Letters, 6(4), 441–444. https://doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2009.0964
Longru Jin, Siliu Yang, Rebecca T.Kimball, Lifen Xie, Xinke Yue, Bo Luo, … Jiang Feng. (2015). Do pups recognize maternal calls in pomona leaf-nosed bats, Hipposideros pomona? - ScienceDirect. Elsevier - Animal Behavior, 100, 200–207.
Annalee261 (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography 

message: I noticed in your edits that you don't introduce any links! You can find more about when, why, and how to add links to an article here. Enwebb (talk) 00:17, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggestions for student editors 

message: All edits are suggestions. Feel free to include all, some, or none in the next draft.
=== Introduction ===
* Switch the structure of the first two sentences. I want to know about what the leaf nosed bat is (family) before I know where they live!
* There are almost no references in the first two paragraphs. Please cite your sources.
=== Evolution ===
* The sentence that starts with "It was thought that the membrane" and then has an em dash (—) repeats the word "the membrane". Grammatically, I think it would be okay to delete the second "the membrane" since the reader knows you are talking about the membrane. It would read something like: "along with the uropatagium — stretching between the legs..."
* There is a general inconsistency between the footnotes appearing before or after the period. In general, I believe the footnote appears after the period in most Wikipedia articles I have seen. Just be consistent.
=== Biology and Ecology ===
* Instead of explaining what gonochorism is in the article, link to the gonochorism wikipedia page using the article title code.
=== Range ===
* Is this section too short to stand alone? Is it worth moving to be a part of an existing section? The range of the species might be related to its ecology.
=== Human Impact ===
* I really like this section, but I cannot tell if it would violate Wikipedia's neutrality policy. Be careful, but go ahead and leave it in for now.
=== Classification ===
* Excellent job being thorough here. But, the list takes up so much space! Is there a way to code the list into two smaller columns? This should be the last priority of your edits, but thought it might condense the content.
Nathaniel H2468 (talk) 15:13, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review (Bio 267D) 

message: * Excellent job being thorough here. But, the list takes up so much space! Is there a way to code the list into two smaller columns? This should be the last priority of your edits, but thought it might condense the content.
Nathaniel H2468 (talk) 15:13, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification 

message: * Long, but probably necessary. Maybe mess around with the formatting
General comments: The biggest changes I suggest are to split up some of the headings you have to mirror the current Bats Wikipedia page, as it is a little clearer. Splitting Biology and Ecology will make categorization a little more intuitive. I propose that under Biology, you include a renamed Anatomy section (originally “Description”) and Life cycle. Under Ecology, diet and social system would fit. 
A few sentences should be revised for clarification or grammar, but overall the article is done well and is informative. Just remember that it should pertain specifically to this type of bats—any other generic bat information should be linked to rather than reiterated. If you can ever mention things that are specific to this bat type, do so!
I would also try to include more pictures since the group is so diverse. I know Wikipedia is weird about pictures, so it may be difficult, but try to show an array of the diversity that you guys mention in the article. Jacob8598 (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification