Talk:Territorial evolution of Australia

message: Why aren't the colonial changes included?--Peta 02:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The map begins at federation, just as the Canada map and US maps begin at federation. However, I am thinking about adding pre-federation maps to all of them. --Golbez 02:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I definitely agree with that - nothing really interesting happened to the borders post federation!  The maps are available here ! -- Chuq 03:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pre federation

message: "Territorial evolution" sounds a bit contrived. How about "History of Australian state borders?" or even "History of Australian borders"? Stevage 11:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It followed the same path as my Territorial evolution of Canada and Territorial evolution of the United States, with of course one main different - Australia's external borders did not evolve. :P Maybe it will be better if/when I add the colonial borders? --Golbez 11:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: I notice the introduction of Queensland in 1859 states that the western border was originally at 141° E - in a direct line with South Australia's eastern border -  but the image shows it at it's current day 138°.  I recall reading that land owners (squatters to be exact) were responsible for pushing the Queensland border westward.  Unfortunately, I have no reference for this, so I'm loath to put it in the article...--Johnmc 09:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is correct. See the discussion at Talk:History of Australia --Astrokey44 03:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Queensland Border 

message: Can we add New Zealand and PNG to this page? This would enable us to include former territories and colonies that are no longer part of Australia. Adding the external territories and split of territories would also greatly expand this list. If we have Central Australia and North Australia we should include the other territories. JRG 08:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PNG was an external territory, not quite the same status as North Australia. the way I understand it, it's akin to the difference between Florida Territory and Guam in the United States; one is an internal, integral territory, and the other is merely a possession. I could be wrong. --Golbez 13:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Under Australian law there is no distinction - New Guinea was a League of Nations mandated trust territory for a while, but was eventually merged to form a "territory" of Australia as determined by s 122 of the Constitution. Papua was always an Australian territory after it was claimed by Australia. JRG 01:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of NZ and PNG & Other Territories 

message: This article, while well-intentioned, contains many historical errors. I will begin to fix them shortly as I find the time, though some-one more technical than I will need to fix the maps. Nudge67 21:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors 

message: Fantastic images! but can we add PNG to them for the periods where it was a territory? Cheers, WikiTownsvillian 01:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: images

message: I don't think it is right to say that Victoria was "founded" in 1851.   Victoria was established as a separate colony in that year  but the colony was founded in 1836.Eregli bob (talk) 10:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   Victoria "founded" 

message: My initial thought was, "this is outside the scope of this article." But ... I mean, Australia is a unique situation. This map is covering the colonization of an entire continent by one colonizer, and it's not like they have a monopoly on the concept. Put another way - As long as this is "Territorial evolution of Australia", then yeah, I think ... crap, I think we have to cover all the borders thereof, right? But, these articles always rely on concrete, described borders - and I'm guessing that isn't available for all of these. That makes the pre-colonial maps kind of half-in, half-out of scope, right? 
So here is my proposal: Someone (maybe me, maybe someone else) write a paragraph for the introduction explaining how precolonial territories worked, how solid the borders were, how they were described and resolved, etc., and I think that would be awesome. 
As for the warning about uninhabited, ... yeah, I wanted to push back on that too but, as I said above, thinking about it made me realize that, by focusing solely on one entity it leaves the others out. I'm now genuinely wondering if we should move this article to "Territorial evolution of the Commonwealth of Australia", because, to be honest, "Australia" is ambiguous for something like this. 
I however am presently much too high to handle anything like that so that's why I'm putting it here to look at later --Golbez (talk) 19:52, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Nations map