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Talk:Barrow, Shropshire

message: :I lived in Barrow, Shropshire at Barrow House for 8 years and my parents were there for probably 10 years.  It is part of Lord Forester's Willey Estate.
:Barrow is about 2 1/2 miles equidistant from Much Wenlock and Broseley - not near Telford and the Wrekin.
:The population when I lived there was about 18-20, and certainly had not increased to 600+ when I returned in about 1998.  There is nothing in Barrow except the farm for which Barrow House was the residence, about 6 Alms houses and houses for farm labourers; the one room school, the church opposite Barrow House and the cricket pitch through a small copse just below Barrow House.
These comments, while important, need to be rewritten in an encyclopedic format or omitted from the article. --Justin Eiler (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments from former resident
Talk:Barrow, Suffolk

message: Hey all, I'm the WikiProject Cities assessor of this article. If feedback is what you want and need, come to my talk page and give me a holler! --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 03:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Barton in the Beans

message: Just a note to say that although I didn't write the article, I personally lived in Barton-in-the-Beans from 1985 to 2008, and know that Dean Richards did live in the village for many years, in particular during his years as a rugby player for Leicester Tigers. That said, I've had a look online and can't find any documented proof unfortunately. -Steven Garratt  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGarratt (talk • contribs) 14:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Barton, Cumbria

message: This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take several years to do).  Laplacemat (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  CCHT External link 

message: The parish Barton and Pooley Bridge, which was renamed from "Barton" in 2019, is much bigger than the hamlet and includes Pooley Bridge but is at present a red link. It has a parish council, and should perhaps have its own article. Much of the article on Barton is actually about the parish, although the hamlet, with its grade I  listed church, could still stand alone with an article. (Ah, I see the church has its own article: St Michael's Church, Barton). So either:
#We rename this article to the current parish
# or We redirect the current parish to this article
# or (The Split) We create a separate article for the current parish and divide the content of this article between the article on the hamlet and the article on the parish.
My inclination is to do a split, but I thought it best to consult rather than go right ahead.
Any thoughts? This parish is one of those listed in User:Crouch,_Swale/Missing_parishes. PamD 15:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As the parish has undoubtedly changed its name, with unchanged boundaries, I have moved Listed buildings in Barton, Cumbria to Listed buildings in Barton and Pooley Bridge, Cumbria and added text and ref to clarify the renaming. PamD 15:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

text: My inclination is also to split but I would be fine with renaming if people don't think the "Barton" place is notable enough given is isn't an OS settlement. The listed building rename was definitely correct even if we preform #2 since the list is for the parish not the village. It may be awkward to have 2 articles given the rename but since it has its own church and there is information on the name origin of "Barton" a split should be OK. Crouch, Swale (talk)  18:10, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split to create separate [[Barton and Pooley Bridge]]?
Talk:Barton, Oxfordshire

message: The current article is frankly misleading, because Barton's outstanding characteristic can hardly be read between the lines. Is there some wikipaedia policy about expressing or omitting uncomfortable truths, please? 
The Oxford city council (which owns almost the whole suburb) website uses this formula: "According to the Indices of Multiple Deprivation data, Barton is one of the most deprived areas in Oxford and England as a whole. Barton is a very close knit community and is appreciated locally as a good place to live."
Jezza (talk) 19:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately articles like this are often produced by local councillors or teachers in local schools, and they have a natural tendency to put a positive spin on their areas. Barton isn't a 'suburb', it's a big postwar council estate out beyond the ring road with all the crime, antisocial behaviour and deprivation that you'd expect in such a place. Nobody in their right mind would choose to live there if they had any other option. --Ef80 (talk) 15:22, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Fairly typical Barton story from the Oxford Mail: https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/20066957.day-8-barton-murder-jury-hear-lewis-brown-seen-knife-june-2021/ --Ef80 (talk) 10:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

text: As part of my various improvements to this article, I have included a new crime rate section. So far there is only information from the 2021 census, though please feel free to expand this section with reliable sources! Luna Char (talk) 18:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncomfortable truth 
Talk:Barwick-in-Elmet

message: Did it get raised? Could someone update this? PamD (talk) 16:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Answered this myself.  Scope for much more about the maypole, from sources given and others. PamD (talk) 17:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maypole 2008 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: no consensus   Calidum 14:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Barwick-in-Elmet →  – Per the Ordnance Survey, Google Maps and it seems more other sources don't use hyphens than do. Also CP is Barwick in Elmet and Scholes. Crouch, Swale (talk)  21:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Crouch, Swale (talk)  22:33, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that the council website uses hyphens, for example on this page. The council is a more reliable and authoritative source than mapping agencies such as Google and OS. --188.28.140.28 (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably also need to hyphenate the civil parish article as well. Keith D (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, probably. There's a lot of inconsistency though. The parish doesn't use hyphens on its website but does on social media. I think the general rule with these hyphenated names is that the form with hyphens is felt to be formal and "correct", but the hyphens are often missed out in less formal contexts, and some people think it looks more modern that way. --188.28.140.128 (talk) 16:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't the OS generally be the authority on what's formal unless another form is far more common? As well as the parish council being "Barwick in Elmet & Scholes Parish Council" the CP is "Barwick in Elmet and Scholes". Crouch, Swale (talk)  18:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the OS is not and wouldn't claim to be an authority on the naming of places. And as pointed out above the parish council sometimes uses hyphens and sometimes doesn't. 188.28.139.13 (talk) 23:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Per WP:COMMONNAME the sources used should be independent, which the council website is not. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: To argue that we can't use the council as a source for the naming of one of the places it serves on the grounds that it is not independent would seem to be an absurd interpretation of policy. 188.28.139.13 (talk) 23:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: How else would you interpret it? Also see WP:OFFICIAL. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:04, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject England has been notified of this discussion. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 07:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 16 March 2022
Talk:Basford, Staffordshire

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thread_title:  External links modified
Talk:Bob Bishop (Heroes)

message: I think we can call him a main character now? Anow2 03:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not for us to determine, however, I do think that the article should be renamed "Robert Bishop" since we know his name and it's official, the same was done for Noah Bennet and Adam Monroe, and when I have time, I'll mention this proposition on Daniel Linderman's page, since it was never really mentioned. Therequiembellishere 23:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I was actually planing to come here and say that, but you beat me! So How about a move from Bob (Heroes)-->Bob Bishop? Therequiembellishere (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

message: Er, when was this mentioned or viewed within the program? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:17, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Four Months Later..., he turns a spoon into gold. Josh (talk | contribs) 20:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Josh, i just watched the episode again, and saw no transmutation at all. Where is this supposed event supposed tob e happening? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 21:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's while he is offering Mohinder a job at the Company. Mohinder says the research would cost way too much, Bob turns the spoon gold and says "Let's just say we have our private Fort Knox." Oh, and are you sure you're not consusing Four Months Later... (no longer available online) with Four Months Ago...? Josh (talk | contribs) 23:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Damn, that is exaclty what I did. Thanks for pointing it out for me. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: transmutation?
Talk:Molly Walker

message: The whole article is nothing more than a plit summary which can really be compressed in no more than 10 lines. I propose to merge this article with List of Heroes characters with special abilities as already to two more secondary characters. -- Magioladitis 17:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree because i feel she is more notable than the characters listed on that page.--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 19:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am interested to see if you can really take this whole article and put it into 10 lines.  I dont think that is possible.  Also, Molly's character is not dead, so their will be so much to add to this page in the future...Either you are going to merge this page and recreate it later, or just leave it alone.  I mean, realistically, we cant condense mollys bio in ten lines forever...what happens when we have to add more info?  do we reopen the page then?  why--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This certainly is not a question of notability, because she is very notable.  Also, if you look on the main page discussion archives, it was already agreed upon that she was notable enough for a page...thanks.--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 19:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you tell, expect of episode appearances, what else is written in this article? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the merges of Claude, Ted, Eden and Alejandro, but not Molly.  She was very significant to season 2--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 20:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ok but then, try to improve it by adding things. Check Nikki and Paulo as an example of a model article how to create ideal character articles for Wikipedia. The tag will remain until the article is improved. Asa start, use the interview of the actress who plays Molly to create a section called "Casting". -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[List of Heroes characters with special abilities]]? 
Talk:Bassenthwaite

message: This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take some years to do).  Laplacemat (talk) 17:20, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  CCHT external link 

message: This section is ridiculous - and I am not surprised that it is drawn from the book on Lake District Place Names which is full of really silly so-called explanations.
If "Bastun" is Anglo-French then the whole construction is anachronistic because the Normans did not wield any influence before 1190ish. Nor (look at PASE) is there any evidence of anyone being called "Bastun" in England.
However there is evidence of people called Bass. And Tun is a common placename element.
So it seems to me that the only reasonable explanation is that this is an Anglic placename (the tun = farmstead of someone called Bass) - this dating to before the attentions of the Vikings - to which has been appended "thwaite" suggesting that there was more tree clearing during Viking times, presumably to increase agricultural production (which is also in general why the Lakeland "fells" are so called). Freuchie (talk) 08:58, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toponomy
Talk:Bathingbourne

message: While the content that is there is fairly minimal, its all well sourced and so has to qualify for Start-class. More content, if it can be found, would be useful... --Peeky44 (talk) 01:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Battle Edge

message: I've used the junction of Sheep Street and Tanners Lane which also agrees to the mention of the road to Barrington and this  which says it is west of the town towards Upton but there doesn't seem to be a playing field there.  One specific reference  to the playing field says it is near the church.  The main church is north east of the town.--Cavrdg (talk) 08:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates
Talk:Yamaha FJ

message: In accordance with WP:NOT#GUIDE I am copying the last section of admittedly useful information below and removing it from the article, cheers Nimbus227 23:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article clean up

message: Have added a specs table which will include FJ1100 details for comparison, will fill the blanks in later. Nimbus227 23:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone have mileage/efficiency stats? --MartinezMD (talk) 02:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to hand but mine does 42 mpg (Imperial) however I ride it!! Must be a reference out there somewhere. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 18:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Specifications table
Talk:Bawsey

message: I have been there countless times and taken many photos of the stuff left from its active days under British Industrial Sand. There is also something to be said about its current use as a natural public space (now apparently under control of WBB Minerals), which basically means raves or generally drunk people can be found on it many a night. Surely this sort of thing is worth putting in?
The problem I have is that I have very few independently verifiable 'facts' to include. Everything has been deduced or guessed from the signs littering the site and the remains of the quarry operation. Not a lot can be found online.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.48.107 (talk) 23:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bawsey sand quarry
Talk:Bayles, Cumbria

message: I pronounce it "bales" -- I am the genealogical researcher for my branch of the family, which resided in Suffolk County from the 1500's until my gr-gr- grandfather emigrated to the US in 1851.
In my research, there are few spellings that require the "bayless" pronunciation.  Even misspellings imply the "bales" preference, such as the spelling, "beals" or "bails.".  
I hope this has been helpful to you.  I believe my email address is appended to this message.  Reply, if yuou wish.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.176.187.249 (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation
Talk:Alberto del Canto

message: The article posits that he died on the vaguely specified date of "12/10/1611". This is vague because it is unclear whether this refers to 10 December (which the infobox assumes) or 12 October (which would be more common for both Portuguese and Spanish).
However, entirely apart from that issue, the reason for this post is that I can find no source which appears to be anything other than a copy job from Wikipedia or some other wiki. I did see a pre-existing ref given for Del Hoyo 2005, p. 102, but it does not support the date (or even the year!), as I found when I checked it. The latest date mentioned is 31 December 1607. The paragraph then concludes in 
Given that, unless someone can provide a verifiable source for his death date, after a reasonable amount of time has passed I will remove the existing date as inaccurate. 1980fast (talk) 22:38, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  No valid ref for death date or year
Talk:Beacon Hill, Buckinghamshire

message: A new page is needed for Beacon Hill, Ellesborough, Buckinghamshire 51°37'40.8"N 0°41'02.4"W to split out the information of Beacon Hill, Penn, Buckinghamshire 51°37'40.8"N 0°41'02.4"W. These are currently merged in one confusing page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:530A:4E01:987F:A7E9:DADA:1E7F (talk) 14:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision to site description
Talk:John Onaiyekan

message: Should the Intelligence Squared debate be mentioned, in which he and Ann Widdecombe terribly failed against Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry to demonstrate that the Catholic Church were a force for good in the world? He was unable to present a single argument in favor of the Church, while he appeared surprisingly ineloquent and incompetent, even for an archbishop. ♆ CUSH ♆ 00:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intelligence² 
Talk:Bearley

message: Is the pronunciation really , rather than ? MIDI (talk) 18:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation
Talk:Beasley, Staffordshire

message: Should actually be spelled "Beazley". Named after the owner of Beazley House Farm to whom the land belonged. My grandfather lived at the farm along with his wife, Fanny) and sons and one daughter. One of his sons was Charlie - my dad. See old maps for confirmation of proper spelling.
Added to article  05:29, 18 July 2019‎ by IP editor 82.27.71.71 with edit summary " To put on recoed that "Beazley" is incorrectly spellt". Moved to Talk page by RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:04, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling
Talk:Beaumont Park

message: I live locally and there's no such thing as "Beagle Woods". There are kennels situated some distance away from the park, but they're on the edge of Delves Wood and Butternab Wood (also known as Butternab Spring Wood). I wouldn't say the kennels were particularly notable locally. 82.29.96.250 (talk) 19:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Beagle Wood" 
Talk:Beaumont, Cumbria

message: This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take some years to do).  Laplacemat (talk) 10:07, 09 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: CCHT external link

message: Some content has been copied from external sources that were written over a century ago.  Is the information still up to date?  For example, the first paragraph in the History of the parish section describes the borders of the Beaumont parish, which is from a source dated 1901.  Are the borders the same today?  In the second paragraph of the same section, describing the manor, states the manor belongs to the Earl of Lonsdale.  Is the manor still owned by the Earl?  How is this even relevant to Beaumont?  And I have no idea what the currencies are when the source is quoting donations, benefactions and the like.  -- Discboy 21:05, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned-up the page -- I don't pretend to be an expert on Beaumont, but I think you're right to suspect this out-of-date information. The whole manorial system in England collapsed not long after 1901, so I can't imagine for a moment that the village in any meaningful sense belongs to the "Earl of Lonsdale." The benefactions, too, might have been of interest in 1900, but as far as I know, most of them these days are only of antiquarian interest. Pasicles (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Old sources
Talk:Beckingham, Nottinghamshire

message: The following is from the Stamford Mercury 21 Aug. 1777 p.4 col.1
To be Sold to the beft Bidder;
On Thurfday the Eleventh Day of September 1777,
between the Hours of Five and Seven in the After-
noon, at the Marquis of Granby in Gainfburgh,
in the County of Lincoln.
A Well Accuftomed Corn WIND MILL,
fituate at Beckingham in the County of Not-
tingham, with a Dreffing Mill therein. and the
Ground whereon the fame doth ftand, with a new
erected Brick and Tile Dwelling Houfe, Barn, and
Ftable to the fame belonging and adjoining.
For further Particulars enquire of leonard Billet
the Tenand, who will fhew the Premiffes.
**************
The above is the best I can reproduce of the sale notice, In those days a letter f was used in the place of a s, although as can be seen a s was in use in those days.
I have a painted picture of the mill which I will try to put on sometime. The mill tapered and was later made higher as some pictures I have seen show, as the added part was straight.
I believe this is the time that the Wilkinsons purchased the mill, owning the mill at the next village to the west, Gringley.
Jakquack
--Jakquack (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sale of Mill in 1777
Talk:Beeston Hill

message: Beeston Hill isn't really an area in its own right, but a smaller part of Beeston, Leeds.  I have amended Beeston to incorporate all the sourced info on Beeston Hill in this article anyway, so I have amended this article to a redirect to Beeston and altered other links which refer to Beeston Hill. LNWWatcher (talk) 21:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect [[Beeston, Leeds]]
Talk:Beeston with Bittering

message: Parishes are notable per WP:GEOLAND so both the current and former parishes should have separate articles, see Nayland-with-Wissington/Nayland/Wissington, Suffolk for example. Crouch, Swale (talk)  20:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 14:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal