Talk:Tongan language

message: In the List of languages by number of native speakers article, Tonga is said to have <1% English speaking community despite its official status. I know this to be untrue, albeit, I have no evidence for this, i.e. web-links and such. Is there any site with which I could cite? -- Greaser 08:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the statement might be true, or at least close to it. That website looks at primary languages only. Perhaps 99% of the Tongans do know (some) English, but only very few have it as their primary language. I do not know of any quotable source, though. --Tauʻolunga 10:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny, because if Tongan language has very few daily written material, and the majority of the population is educated...it seems discrimination on their part. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 02:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never been to Tonga, but friends that grew up there said they have to speak English in school, not just in English class, but in all classes. But it is not often that they speak English with each other outside of school, and maybe that is what they meant in the article? --Billy Nair (talk) 20:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  <1% Tongans speak English? 

message: This article ought to have IPA in it. Mo-Al 01:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I added it. Mo-Al 17:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IPA

message: Shouldn't there be a Proto-Polynesian column on the table in the "Related languages" section? Unfortunately, I don't know anything about Polynesian languages, or I'd research it myself. Mo-Al 02:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proto-Polynesian

message: The word for pig (puaka etc) was used to illustrate the reflexes of proto-Polynesian *k. I changed this to the word for canoe (vaka etc) since the Māori word for pig (poaka) is generally considered to be a loanword from English from "porker", and because the word for canoe is attested in all the mentioned languages. Also replaced the non-Polynesian language Fijian with examples from Proto-Polynesian.   Kahuroa 18:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Table of linguistic correspondences 

message: English has 2 articles - "the" and "a" / "an". But all other European languages have more then 2… Alone Geman has 3 definite, the romance languages have alone 2 definite …
2A01:76C0:8FE:3700:7407:DF57:3AFA:E2 (talk) 23:00, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  English, like "most European …", has 2 languages 

message: There needs to be a discussion of the "third" article, si'i, which can be used instead of ha and (h)e to indicate an emotional relationship with the following noun. It would probably be translated "dear" or "poor," depending on the context. 207.69.137.9 04:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Third article

message: Tongan makes a distinction between objective and subjective possession, with the result in a number of possessive forms for the pronouns. (Different prepositions are also used to show objective and subjective possession by lexical nouns.) In brief, the relationship between and objective possession and the thing possessed is like that between the object of a verb and the verb itself, while the subjective possession is comparable to that between the the subject of a verb and the verb itself. 207.69.137.9 04:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Objective and subjective possession

message: Tongan uses three numbers--singular, dual, and plural (three or more). Dual and plural markers are placed in front of (rather than suffixed to) their respective nouns. I believe 'ongo is used for duals, while there are several different markers used for plurals of three or more: ngaahi, kau, fanga, and u are probably the most common ones, but others are used. The first one is used for people and things, the second for people, the third for animals, and the last for certain objects in the sky (cf. u mahina "moons" and ngaahi mahina "months"). However, someone with more knowledge of the language will have to deal with this. 207.69.137.9 04:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbers

message: The article says "In addition there are special, traditional counting systems for fish, coconuts, yams, etc." Is this true, what does it mean, and does anyone know of some source for this?88.114.154.216 (talk) 05:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: more on numbers

message: Tongan uses four persons, rather than three: first inclusive, first exclusive (depending on whether the person addressed is included), second, and third. The first inclusive vs. exclusive distinction is more easily observed in the plural, where a Tongan would use a different pronoun for the expressions "Let's go!" and "Let us go! (But you stay.)" The first inclusive pronoun also exists in the singular, but is not used very much (there is a proverb about selflessness that uses it, but I don't know it well enough to put it here). 207.69.137.9 04:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Persons

message: I keep coming across Tongan words spelled with circumflex accents over vowels. Notably in translation tables in the English Wiktionary.
I just want to check with experts here whether the circumflex was formerly an official way to denote a long vowel, or whether the macron has always held this role with the circumflex just being used as an ad-hoc replacement due to macrons not being available on English typewriters and computer keyboards. — Hippietrail (talk) 09:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circumflex vs macron 

message: Do Tongan publications in Tonga still use the dieresis ( ¨ ) (or umlaut, if you prefer) instead of the macron ( ¯ ) to indicate long vowels (toloi)? 108.246.206.139 (talk) 02:19, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not since impactprinters disappeared… 20 years ago. --Tauʻolunga (talk) 05:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dieresis vs. macron 

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