Talk:Vanessa atalanta

message: I updated the lead section of the article and added the following sections: description, geographic range, life cycle (including subsections: larval and pupal stages, adult stage (with sections: migration, mating), host plants, territoriality, physiology and vision, and conservation. I added several citations from primary research journals, peer-reviewed books, and University and Museum websites. Felderp (talk) 05:02, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your contribution to this article! I made some grammatical edits. I noticed that red admiral is inconsistently capitalized throughout the article, so I just made it all lowercase for consistency. I also noticed that there were two host plant sections? They were nearly identical, but one was better cited than the other, so I left that one. I also moved around subsections in the Life cycle section, because I felt that Migration was more fitting under Geographic range and Mating under Territoriality. That move left the Life cycle section with very little, so I moved the description into Adult stage, because it's basically describing an adult butterfly. I wish there was more behavioral information, maybe more mating information, but the lack of literature has proven to be a limiting factor for many of our classmates, so oh well.Ericapryu (talk) 02:14, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Second update - just moved the life cycle pictures to the bottom of the picture because it was wrapping strangely. Ericapryu (talk) 02:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I made some contributions similar to Erica's, like fixing capitalization and grammatical issues throughout the article. I rewrote the description section (which she moved to adult stage) as well as anything else I found to be unclear or redundant. I had noticed several sentences that were repeated word for word from the overview, so I rephrased those. I also removed one of the adult butterfly photos which I thought was unnecessary, and I moved host plants into the larval and pupal phase section. Lastly, I rearranged many of the sections to match the order of the outline we received in class. Mnoronha456 (talk) 03:36, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Major update

message: I have removed some of the entries from the taxobox after having read the guidance in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/taxobox usage article. Too much removed? Not enough? --AjAldous 20:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: well done jimfbleak 05:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've added a new redirect page, Red_admirable and added the alternative name "Red Admirable" for this butterfly. As far as I am aware, the word "Admirable" is the original English name for the insect, but was gradually corrupted over time to simply "Admiral".
I don't have any authoratative source for this however -- but there are many reasonable repeats of this comment across the web. An authoratative reference would possibly also indicate if other nymphalids (such as Lorquin's Admiral, the White Admiral and Weidemeyer's Admiral) should be clarified as well. YojimboSan 22:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Admirable 

message: What is the pale fire of a plant that it feeds on?
Has someone put this in as some sort of reference Nabokov's novel?
or is a plae fire an actual part of a plant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.40.208.159 (talk) 22:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pale fire 

message: I moved the article name to Red Admiral (Vanessa atalanta) following guideline in WP:FLORA to use cultural names. Red Admiral is the cultural name, though there are more than one - so I then disambiguated by using the scientific name. However, the article has come out with Red Admiral in italics, and the scientific name in Roman. I don't know how to sort this. If a solution can't be found then a return to the original name may need to be made. SilkTork *YES! 18:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I've switched it around. Wish I hadn't started this..... Please feel free to revert if this causes any problems. SilkTork *YES! 18:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name move

message: NOTE: the name of this article was discussed at Talk:Red admiral in June 2014. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "Red admiral"

message: Substituted at 20:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: The text refers to it migrating north in spring, and also in autumn. It also refers to it hibernating.
I'm confused by this; which does it do?  Dean1954 (talk) 21:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hibernate/Migrate 

message: *One place says they patrol "between 7 and 30 times per hour" and the other says "dozens of times per hour". Which?
*It says "prevent intruding males", presumably from mating with females, or maybe from establishing their own territories, but it's not clear.
*Where it says "so they cannot differentiate between colors", should that be "so they can perceive, but not differentiate between those colors"?
*The paragraph which starts with "At higher temperatures around" was unclear to me. Is this in laboratory conditions where the temperature was constant, or are these average of day and night temperatures over as long as 82 days?
*Migration is mentioned at several points in the article along with its range. It was not clear to me if all populations or some populations migrate. If it moves north as an adult, does it lay its eggs there, or does it come back south to lay eggs and for the next generation to be born? That doesn't sound right.
*If it does migrate in both the Northern and Southern hemispheres, migration can't be easily defined as north and south.
*Where it says "440-590 nm range" and "590-640 nm range", what does that mean in terms of human color perception?
I hope that helps. Thanks,  SchreiberBike | ⌨  23:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the response and the work in the first place. I hope you continue to be involved in Wikipedia and biology.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  16:20, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions following copy edits 

message: Thanks for the comments SchreiberBike ! I addressed your concerns about color perception and differentiation. I checked what the cited research paper and its references said regarding the distinction and used the accurate language. I also expanded on the filter pigment coating of the rhabdom that allows evolutionarily "newer" species to perceive orange and red.
I made the 7 to 30 patrols per hour consistent between the territoriality and mating sections. 
I also clarified that male exceptional flyers are successful at mating bc they can chase off intruders and defend their territory. Just to further answer your question, females look for territory, not flying ability per se. 
Finally, I added an introductory sentence to the paragraph on various temperatures that larvae are reared at and their effect on coloration and pupal period. I hope it is clear now that these were experiments carried out at constant temperatures over the pupal period. 
Thanks for your help! Felderp (talk) 09:20, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the response and the work in the first place. I hope you continue to be involved in Wikipedia and biology.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  16:20, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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