Talk:Companion cavalry

message: I really want to make this a solid article, but it seems that I am the only one who really shows up.  I already added the Greek spelling of Hetairoi and if someone could verify it that would be excellent.--Carriensol
:Edit - corrected the Greek accent marks.--Carriensol
::I'm happy to see somebody interested in the argument. But there's a problem, with the conception of the article; the Hetairoi, weren't only the elite cavalry, but also the elite units of the phalanx. Maybe the article should be renamed Hetairoi. Also, some sources must be added to buck up the statements.--Aldux 20:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was under the impression that the elite units of the phalanx or elite infantry in general were the Hypaspistai, while the Hetairoi refered to only cavalry.  Unfortunately, I haven't done much yet with the article other than add the Greek.--Carriensol
So Phillip II posthumously enlarged the companions?  Interesting...
Nudas veritas 20:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  clean up and expansion 

message: Actually, the Diadochoi are only the generals of Alexander. Their successors are called Epigonoi. The armies  of the Diadochoi were the same Alexander had. It was in the time of the Epigonoi that changes were made. It is a mistake often made in articles that have to do with the Hellenistic times. GK1973 (talk) 10:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My Bad, the  Diadochi page is a redirection from the Epigonoi site, since you seems to have some insight into this why don't you make this clear in  Diadochi or create another page with the successor states that connects to main pages such as  Diadochi, Selucid Empire, Ptolemic Empire etc. SADADS (talk) 18:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: yep.. I will later in the month. Thx! Keep working on these articles. We need editors with willingness to improve these kinds of articles!
GK1973 (talk) 20:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you make sure I find out about it, I am taking a Greek History Class right now and might be able to help with the polishing.SADADS (talk) 00:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Diadochoi

message: A major source for this article as cited in the footnoes is "Hammond," but no further bibliographical info is given. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry was working on it last night, got sidetracked and forgot to add it.SADADS (talk) 14:53, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hammond 

message: You should reconsider this section. The very title is misleading. Do not forget that the Hetairoi (Companions) are not just the specific cavalry unit of Philip and Alexander. We could include a section on the history of the Companions and there we could mention the names (regions of origin) of their squadrons under Alexander, as well as names of individual Companions. GK1973 (talk) 16:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Composition

message: Right now the article states that both riders and horses were armored. I'm not an expert on the Macedonian army, but most of what I've read implied that they were unarmored or at most lightly armored, and that they were effective despite this lack of armor. So it would be very helpful to have citations for the armor claims and possibly also contrary views. In the Alexander Mosaic, shown by the artcle, Alexander seems to wear cloth armor, and his horse has no head-armor, although it's impossible to tell if his horse has other armor. 71.191.229.110 (talk) 20:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done a little research on the topic of the so called "linothorax" which Alexander is portrayed wearing in the fresco image.  There are no reliable records of Alexander (or his troops) having ever used/worn them; at least none that are contemporaneous with Alexander's lifetime. There are broad assumptions that he may have worn such based on only two data points: 1) the fresco which is Roman in origin and post-dates Alexander by hundreds of years and 2) a reference to Alexander's "Linothorax" by a Greek historian/philosopher which is (again) written well after Alexander's death and NOT a first hand account. Every other reference about Alexander's "Linothorax" stems from these original two (and quite dodgy) references.  At best we might assume Alexander wore a Ceremonial set of armour fashioned after the likeness of the linen armour worm by certain tribes that he and his forces had conquered.  Having been to Vergina and seen Philip II of Mecedon's tomb and armour, I think it's unlikely his son would have downgraded to linen armour given that his fathers armour was VERY hefty iron plate. 142.116.97.142 (talk) 19:37, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armor? 

message: Why no reference to the Mycenaean e-qe-ta?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.42.133.173 (talk) 22:44, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mycenaean 

message: i am pretty sure they did have armor. but with the horses they had very little. since the companions were drafted from the higher classes of macedonian people they could afford better equipment such as armor. perhaps when you are preferring to a lighter cav. you mean the macedonian prodromoi. Also when you talk of alexander wearinging cloth armor that armor is more like a leather weave. and is said to have the ability to stop a spear thrust.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.105.135.186 (talk) 01:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armor? II 

message: I think this page should show up on redirect (or at least on the list of links) if someone types 'hetaroi' instead of 'hetairoi'.  It's very easy to make the mistake of mispelling and then assuming this article doesn't exist.
174.7.47.251 (talk) 09:04, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hetaroi or Hetairoi?