Talk:Beau Brummell

message: How would you pronounce "Beau Brummell"—the former in French, the latter in English?  Sounds kinda awkward!  Maikel 20:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its pronounced like bow brum-el. --RND 18:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The French word beau is a long since adopted English word. They could have called him a dandy or a macaroni but it didn't go with his surname. Jm butler 22:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to you both.  Maikel 17:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Mr. George Bryan Brummell would have found it quite vulgar to be directly addressed as "Beau" during his lifetime.  The French dandies of the next generation used the nickname, and also misspelled their idol's surname as "Brummel" (as does the first Warner Bros. film starring John Barrymore).  When Brummell attended Eton, and played cricket, his nickname was "Buck".  The latter fact comes from Captain Jesse's biography; and the others from simply reading every book and watching every movie I could find on the subject, as well as on Regency society in general.  User:M!ssDevlin  M!ssDevlin (talk) 20:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: We need to specify the speciic person who is the "Prince Regent" in this article, who followed King George III of England.Edison 05:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link from "Prince Regent" is to George IV of the United Kingdom. That's him. Nobody else in modern English history is referred to as "The Prince Regent". So I don't see a problem. Admittedly, it's awkward since there is also an article on the English Regency which would be appropriate as a link from that point, but George's own article has a link to that which is good enough for somebody researching him. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 11:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prince Regent?

message: I can't imagine why a man of good taste and fashion would abandon his career rather than be posted to Manchester. Could someone expand on this? Drutt 02:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The centre of the social universe was in London around the Court circles. Manchester was 300 miles away in the dismal, rainy north of England. Manchester was a dirty, grimy industrial town and would have filled a dandy like Brummell with utter horror. In those days a journey from Manchester to London by horse drawn coach over dusty or muddy bumpy tracks would have taken three days in each direction. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

text: MissDevlin - thank you. Your writing tells me more about the person than the article :) But pictures are hung, people are hanged. 210.22.142.82 (talk) 12:32, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

text: As officers' commissions in those days (which were pre-Sandhurst) were purchased as far as direct entry to the officer class went, it was not unknown for officers to sidestep undesired postings by selling them onto someone else, relinquishing them in the process and releasing themselves from the jurisdiction of commanding officers, or exchange with an officer from another regiment and remain in the army albeit another part of it.Cloptonson (talk) 05:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Manchester

message: I have trouble with this passage about Beau Brummell merely linking to "fashion," a very INCOMPLETE page. George Brummell should be linked to the '1795-1820 in fashion" page, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_fashion#Men.27s_fashion
For some reason, when I try to link Men of fashion to Beau Brummel, it leads to the woefully incomplete 'fashion' page instead.
At the bottom of "1795-1820 in fashion" sits an entire piece about dandies and Beau Brummell. I have more faith in the "1795-1820 in fashion" link than the plain "Fashion" link, since the research in the former is more rigorous.
Please help to make the changes!Vsanborn 04:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page should be linked to 1795 -1820 in Fashion 

message: When reading such a biographic article, I'd like to find something about the married status (or otherwise) of the subject. As the text stands now, women didn't exist for Brummell except as society figures. But did they?--Kauko56 (talk) 12:30, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The film Beau Brummell: This Charming Man, which is available on YouTube, makes him out as gay. Personally I found it an abysmal waste of time. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 02:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: His biography in the ODNB (2004), which is possibly the best researched source of modern times on him, mentions no spouse or liaisons, or comment on his sexuality, implying no documentary evidence to support mention of them. He died of syphilis, which was a taboo disease in those days, which could have been contracted through homosexual as well as heterosexual sex.Cloptonson (talk) 20:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A number of family history researchers believe that the Beau had two illegitimate sons by Charlotte Barton.  One died in infancy but George Barton (baptised 4 November 1805 in West Bromwich) married and had a family.  He has descendants in the US.  If this is correct it strikes me as remarkable that a man consorting with royalty and aristocracy at the turn of the century was able to keep this information out of the public domain.  The gossip rags were just as active then as now. Putthemright (talk) 10:57, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women in Beau's life? 

message: Andreas Papandreou referred to Akis Tsochatzopoulos as Beautiful Brummel. It was his nickname.Many people in Greece ignore who the real Brummel was. Should there be a reference in the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.73.27 (talk) 14:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akis Tsochatzopoulos 

message: This is unclear:
:He economised by keeping horses, rather than a carriage, but was famously embarrassed when he rang for "Wales" one night and it did not appear.
Does this mean
* he had a horse called "Wales"? If so, why did it not appear?
* he was ringing for a (non-existent) carriage called Wales?
* he was ringing for the Prince of Wales, or the Prince's carriage?
jnestorius(talk) 15:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  he rang for "Wales"  

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message: The ODNB gives mother's name, correctly, as Mary Richardson but for some reason the wrong name, Jane, has crept in to this article.  George Bryan Brummell's baptism record is available online through the Ancestry.com site and clearly shows the mother's name as Mary.  Also, Jane Richardson, the Beau's aunt is known to have married Samuel Brawne and is the grandmother of Fanny Brawne, John Keats' fiancee.  I am new to editing and don't know how to put this fact right. Putthemright (talk) 10:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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