Talk:Early voting

message: The Illinois color is wrong. We have early voting at the polls and not just mail in.  We've had it since 2006.  I don't know how to change the colorDkriegls (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:53, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: US Map

message: Um... I've never heard the term "vote banking" in reference to early voting. Can anyone back this up? - Electiontechnology 05:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vote Banking occurs when party supporters can 'bank' or count on their supporters to turn out and vote for their candidate prior to the official election date. 24.86.78.109 07:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So as I thought, something completely different. Withouth objection I'm taking out vote banking.--Electiontechnology 18:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: vote banking

message: I removed this sentence from the top of the article:
'I believe early voting was first adopted in Texas and not Florida.  Texas adopted in-person early voting in 1989 and it was first used in a Presidential election in 1992.' 135.196.2.145 (talk) 13:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Texas

message: The map showing which states allow no-excuse early voting is inaccurate (perhaps outdated), since editors report that the portrayals of Illinois and Wisconsin are incorrect. I don't know how to change the states' colors on the map. Can someone help? Thanks. JTRH (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The map 

message: Sometimes, a candidate will withdraw (especially in primary season) but has already received some votes from people who cast early ballots.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 17:21, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  pitfall -- a candidate withdraws 

message: Has there never been any noticeable criticism of obvious non-democratic aspects of this? Or even a motivation as to why this should be permittied for people who would be able to vote regularly, as opposed to the long accepted pillar of democracy: one day, one vote? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:55, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes to both questions, though at least in the United States, states have rejected such criticisms in favor of adopting early voting for various reasons. A neutral "reception" section may be useful for this article. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 04:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism?

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message: I have removed a paragraph of the lead section that states: "The amount of voters who vote early has increased in recent years in many countries. As unconditional (no excuse) early voting has gained ground, it has been criticized as damaging to the democratic process."
This content is really terrible. Many different reasons for removal:
# The cites don't support content. The cites are all about the U.S., not "many countries." 
# And in the U.S., early voting is not "unconditional" - voters must be qualified to vote and registered and must comply with regular rules pertaining to early voting sites/locations; early voting also takes place at the times and places set forth by state law. So this is nonsense.
# The lead section is intended to summarize the body of the article. The body of the article does not discuss these claims.
# Vague weasel words ("many countries"; "recent years"; "gained ground"; "has been criticized"; "the democratic process").
# The citations are old and are hot, steaming garbage: Three op-eds (a 2012 The Week commentary wrapup that mostly summarizes random op-eds or quotes), 2014 (a few paragraphs of an op-ed from Politico), and 2016 (op-ed from Town Hall by Jeff Jacoby), all U.S.-specific, none of which bring forth any actual social science research. 
# This content, whether in the lead or the body, cited or not, is undue weight due to the low source quality and low relevance to the overall topic (old, apparently cherry-picked statements from random commentators, rather than good reporting from respected journalistic outfits, academic journals, books published by reputable publishing houses, etc.). Almost all experts on voting and election administration now agree that early voting can be part of a safe and secure election process. There is significant evidence that it facilitates voter participation. 
Content must stay out per WP:ONUS unless and until a consensus develops for inclusion (which it cannot due to all the points above).
--Neutralitytalk 16:52, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur this is not good phrasing or sourcing for this to be in the article. Reywas92Talk 18:16, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That item has been there for years. But I've been around for a long time (14 years logged in to Wikipedia and 14 US presidential administrations) and nowadays I know when to give up at once. More and more of us are leaning when to throw in the towel immediately and say "Have it your way". Best wishes, --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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