Talk:1963 (comics)

message: For an Alan Moore work the detail here is sorely lacking, especially given the controversial publication of the series.  For those reasons I've rated it as low importance, but I've ranked it as a start because of the lack of detail, referencing or discussion of the work itself. Hiding Talk 20:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mysteryinc.jpg

message: It states in the article:  "Issue three, an anthology comic called Tales of the Uncanny, featured USA, Ultimate Special Agent based on Captain America...."
This may be true, however, I read the comic and thought that the character was based more on Archie Comics Lancelot Strong, the Shield,(Double Life of Private Strong) created by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon in 1959.  I was wondering if this was the real inspiration for the USA character.  Did you get your information from someone connected to the comic or the company?  Just curious.72.79.78.19 (talk) 02:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The "X is based on Y" statements are WP:OR unless based on solid sources (and the creators might be a bit wary of saying exactly who the characters were based on on) - it isn't about what we know it is about what we can prove. It may be we can use the annotations as a source for this as, looking through them, they tend to support my conclusions. (Emperor (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultimate Special Agent 

message: From the 1963 (comics) article: "The comics also contained advertisements for 1963 #1/2, which never surfaced either. It is unclear whether this was an alternate name for the annual, an alternate name for an ashcan edition (Mystery, Inc. and Horus were both published as ashcans), or another facet to the project which never came to fruition."
The nature of "1963 1/2" (that's "1963 and a half" rather than "1963" issue #1/2) may not have been made entirely obvious within the text of "1963."  But the advertisement and editorial comments in "1963" issue #6, as well as comments made elsewhere by Alex Cox & Paul Mavrides, indicate that "1963 1/2" was planned as a spin-off series.  The advertisement & editorial comments listed a creative team (cartoonist Paul Mavrides, filmmaker/writer Alex Cox, and actor/writer Dick Rude) that was completely different from the team that created "1963," and a different publisher (Kitchen Sink Press in cooperation with Tundra Publishing).
According to Alex Cox , "1963 1/2" was intended to be a 6-issue comic book series illustrated by Mavrides, based on a 300-page script by Cox & Rude.  The plot of "1963 1/2" centered upon the assassination of JFK & the involvement of space aliens therein, and the protagonists were David Ferrie (seen briefly in "1963" issue #6) and a Japanese punk rocker called Yuki.  A 1993 interview with Paul Mavrides  essentially confirms the information provided by Alex Cox.  Neither source gives any indication about how much progress Mavrides made on the job of illustrating Cox & Rude's script, however.  The year of "1963"'s release (by Image Comics) and the planned released of "1963 1/2" was 1993, which was also the year that Tundra Publishing went out of business & its assets were purchased by Kitchen Sink Press.  It may just be coincidental, but perhaps the unpublished status of "1963 1/2" might have been a result of Tundra Publishing's financial collapse.  67.112.121.111 (talk) 09:16, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Its far from clear what the link is - could these be two essentially separate stories that just happen to be developed at the same time? I'll need to go back and have a look at the comics (as I don't remember the ads or Ferrie). (Emperor (talk) 01:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1963 1/2 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

message: 1. I've cut down on the quotes as I feel they were excessive for "Alan Moore fell out with someone"; I feel there's a balancing act in getting across the fractious production and descending into creator squabbling.
2. The who-is-based-on-who aspect of any article like this is obviously a wild mass guessing magnet so I've kept it sharp and to the point. Consensus seems to be that Hypernaut isn't particularly based on anyone, and there's considerable indication that lots of the secondary characters are the same, so opening it up to "he has the same powers as [random Marvel character]" or "she looks a bit like so-and-so" is OR-y, and the annotations page in the external links covers that sort of thing for anyone interested.
3. I couldn't find any reliable sources exploring the connection or lack thereof of 1963 1/2 to the series beyond OR and supposition.
BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 09:16, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rejig rationale