Talk:List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel in 2002–2006

message: I removed this information from Qassam rocket, where this list was cluttering an already too-detailed article.  I question whether this detailed list belongs in Wikipedia at all.  It looks like an attempt to memorialize the victims or emphasize the effect of this weapon's employment.
What is a "notable" rocket attack; does it have to meet Wikipedia:Notability criteria?  See also Wikipedia:List guideline.  —Michael Z. 2006-07-25 02:03 Z
:I agree. Lists on Wikipedia need an inclusion criteria. I have chosen one to start, hopefully people will agree with it. It's a terrible state of affairs when rocket attacks from Gaza/West Bank militants are a regular occurrence. Fortunately, most of these attacks only inflict psychological damage or property damage. So I chose the inclusion criteria of killing someone or injuring at least 5 people, inducing shock is not considered injuring. I also kept entries where the attack itself was notable, such as the first long-range Qassam. I removed the seperate list of victims, as they now appear quite clearly in the list of attacks 81.179.176.97 06:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability criteria

message: The inclusion of the Israeli security zone in Lebanon as the "immediate context for the attacks" and the failure of the Camp David talks cannot be correct because it is very clearly not "immediate". This is an article about Qassams which started to be fired in October 2001, "immediately" following the outbreak of the Second Intifada. It is also not made clear what the Security Zone in Lebanon has to do with Qassams from Gaza, or how the failure of the Camp David talks led to the beginning of the rocket attacks almost a year and a half later, in the description of these events as the immediate context. Nor does this appear to be the position of any neutral commentator or any other encylopedia. See, e.g. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Qassam-rocket or http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hamas-qassam.htm. Nor has a single source been cited with respect to this position.Directionless (talk) 07:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Immediate context of the attacks" 

message: http://www.omedia.org/Show_Article.asp?DynamicContentID=1855&MenuID=603&ThreadID=1014010
Flayer 22:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Grad" 

message: This is an article about Qassam rocket attacks. If someone wants to move it to a page about Qassams and mortars, then they should do so, failing which, the information about mortars and their fatality or casualty statistics is irrelevant to this page.Directionless (talk) 07:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mortars - Recommend with Re-title article List of Rocket and Morter Attacks 

message: The map that is included in this article has no scale of distance (kilometers or miles). The map should be replaced with one that does, or enhanced with the addition of a scale or distance. The distances are critically important to the article because distance determines the effective range of the rockets, and therefor the area within which the rocket attacks took place and might take place in the future.
--Tony7896 22:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A scale of distance on the map would be helpful 

message: A map of the landing point of each of the mentioned rocket attacks would be extremely helpful, but may be unavailable and too difficult to produce to be practical; however, there are other possibilities that would be much easier and still helpful. Specifically, I suggest that a map be provided or created that indicates the area within Israel that is in range of the rockets. The article on the Qassam rocket shows the range of each model of the rocket as it has been enhanced: first 3, then 8-10, and now 10 kilometers. There could be a line or shading for each model of the rocket. This would help people visualize and conceptualize where the rocket attacks were located, and the possible location of future attacks, in terms of cities, towns and other settlements within Israel.
--Tony7896 22:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map should show range of the rockets 

message: The article should make a clear distinction between military and civilian casualties. The entry for the September 11, 2007, attack says that the rocket landed in a military training camp and that soldiers were injured. It is not clear if these were the only military casualties. If all of the other casualties have been civilians it would strengthen the impact of the article if this was stated. If any of the other casualties were military it important that this be stated, since identifying the victims of the September attack as military creates an impression that all other causalities were civilian.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony7896 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article should distinguish between military and civilian casualties 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 21:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Can we try to keep the tense consistent? Most parts are written in the past tense, but recent additions have been in the present tense. Also, can we try to keep the dates consistent. Either all entries should contain the year or none of the entries should contain the year; there shouldn't be a mix of both. Lastly, this article is simply supposed to list Qassam rocket attacks; other information belongs in the Israel-Gaza conflict, not here. Adding anything beyond the Qassam rocket attacks, depending on your point-of-view, 1.) either makes it look like more attacks took place than there actually were or 2.) dilutes the list of attacks with information about the Israeli response to such attacks.
← Michael Safyan (talk) 16:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, can we stick to WP:ENGLISH? Please use English sources, only, for the English version of Wikipedia. Thanks. ← Michael Safyan (talk) 16:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pet peeves

message: The article states: "Twenty-two Israeli's have been killed".
*The article only lists 12 killed. The Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs website lists 14 . If the 22 figure cannot be substantiated, it should be removed.
*Not all casualties were Israeli, some were Palestinian or foreign workers.
--128.139.104.49 (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Twenty-two Israeli's have been killed" 

message: Is this article supposed to be a timeline of the entire Israel-Gaza conflict or a list of Qassam rocket attacks, specifically, during the Israel-Gaza conflict? Also, the format is not that of a proper list. I propose that we reorganize the page as follows:
Date              	Number of rockets fired	Location(s) hit    	Organization(s) responsible            	Consequence(s)                      	Source(s)
September 11, 2007	?                      	Zikim Military Base	Nasr Salah al-Din BrigadesIslamic Jihad	66-67 moderately to severely wounded	
Michael Safyan (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: This article is getting too long.  I was wonder about keeping a header article with years 2002-through 2006 and then have separate Years for 2007 and 2008.
ITBlair (talk) 07:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems a little arbitrary.  If we split the article at all, there ought to be some logic behind it.  For example, "List of Qassam rocket attacks before the Gaza disengagement" and "List of Qassam rocket attacks after the Gaza disengagement." However, I prefer to keep it in one article, and I don't think length is currently a big problem.  --GHcool (talk) 16:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I like the idea of 2 articles (before and after the Hamas takeover).  It doesn't matter where geographically the attacks originate because they will belong on the timeline either before or after the Hamas takeover.  --GHcool (talk) 16:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Break Up Article By Year?

message: *If the next news articles are added please use the <ref> tag. The article was mixture of hyperlinks and references. Now there a 3 hyperlinks left leading to dead articles.
*Should we rename the article to Qassam and mortar attacks? The article has lots of information on other attacks unrelated to Qassam rockets.
-- Panoramix303 (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Some comments

message: Just reading this article for 5 minutes, references have been made to launching at least 100 rockets. Unfortuantely, we have no section explaining where these rockets come from. The Gaza Strip is rectangual in shape, surrounded by Israel on two sides, Egypt on the south, and the sea on the west. Now, I can assume that Israel is able to control its border with Gaza, which tells me that the weapons can only be brought in from Egypt, the sea, or dropped from the air... 
Someone with enough knowledge about this issue: would you please include how these rockets make it to the Gaza Strip and possible counter-measures that could be taken. We know that some nations, such as Syria and Iran are actively involved in assissiting Palestinian terrorists, but it would be useful to know how these dangerous weapons are transported into Gaza. Thank you very much. (Einstein00 (talk) 18:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The pronunciation is more like "Tzva" than "Zwa" (unless you pronounce your 'w' like a 'v'). While it is true that this is not a discussion and that the talk page is to be used to improve the articles, I believe your response was completely inappropriate. To answer Einstein00's question, Hamas smuggles many of their weapons into Gaza from Egypt using underground tunnels. Both Egypt and Israel have tried to put a stop to this smuggling by searching for and destroying these tunnel systems. Many of the weapons are Iranian-made (e.g. the Katyusha Grad rockets) and are smuggled into Egypt and then to Gaza through Syria. If you would like this information to be included in the article, then please be bold and add it, using appropriate citations (use: ). ← Michael Safyan (talk) 00:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the rockets 

message: I found a quote while reading the news: "...rocket fire by Hamas on Israeli towns, that have killed 22 people since 2000." Article information: "UN calls for immediate Gaza truce, attacks go on," by Nidal al-Mughrabi, Reuters, 09 Jan 2009, http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUSL9116659._CH_.2400 PinkWorld (talk) 10:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualty Totals 

message: Almost every reference is from either Reuters, Ynet, Jerusalem Post, or [Haaretz]]. The sources are also overwhelmingly Israeli. Thanks
--97.113.23.80 (talk) 04:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of variety in news sources 

message: To my knowledge there is currently no article on Wikipedia dealing with Qassam attacks as a phenomenon. I suggest renaming this article to something like "Qassam rocket attacks" and adding information about effectiveness, Qassam-induced psychological trauma, Qassam refugees, Israeli methods of coping, etc.; then moving the actual list of attacks (which ends here in 2007) to "list of qassam rocket attacks in 2007", "...2006" and so on, similarly to the current articles "list of qassam rocket attacks in 2008" and "...2009". Jalapenos do exist (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Redefining the article

message: "7,000...the rockets since 2005, according to the Israeli military" ("Israelis Announce Cease-Fire In Gaza," by Craig Whitlock and Jonathan Finer, Washington Post Page A01, 18 Jan 2009, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/17/AR2009011700592.html?hpid=topnews)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PinkWorld (talk • contribs) 14:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  referenced data 

message: I propose this article be cut down significantly. After all, the lead says the article is meant to list only "noteworthy/newsworthy" attacks, not every attack, as it appears this article strives for. I propose many of the minor attacks (such as the one for Dec. 2, 2007, and others like it) be eliminated, and that most of the Palestinian deaths in response be removed (is this article not about attacks in Israel?). Thoughts? PBP (talk) 04:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Each rocket is potentially deadly, triggers the Red Color system and contributes to accumilating trauma of the residents. If the rockets were trivial and pointless surely nobody would put so much resources, effort and risk their lives to manufacture and fire them. “WarKosign” 07:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to cut down 

message: By my count about 80% of the incidents listed in this article are from 2007. Would anybody object to splitting off that content into its own article, List of rocket and mortar attacks in Israel in 2007, similar to the existing List of rocket and mortar attacks in Israel in 2008 and List of rocket and mortar attacks in Israel in 2009? Jalapenos do exist (talk) 09:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (Crickets chirping). OK, I'm doing it. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 23:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Split off 2007?

message: Does anyone object to changing the name of this article to List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2001-2006, and similarly changing the names of the articles on 2007, 2008 and 2009? Jalapenos do exist (talk) 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Change name?

message: Sure are a lot of rocket attacks occurring OUTSIDE of Israel in this article. Strange. 124.169.163.201 (talk) 09:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rocket Attacks "on Israel" 

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message: The word escalated (escalted) is misspelled under the header "June–August peak of 2006 Rocket Attacks."CalliopeMuse (talk) 21:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 23:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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