Talk:Gateway, Inc.

message: Recently, Gateway has taken the approach of a non-paper based model. That is, no receipts are issued when service is done on a Gateway product. This approach may assist the Company's bottom line profits, but it does wreck havoc for applying for third party reimbursement for such expenses.  User: Rindech, 25 Oct 2007
I think he's taken the Dell route and renamed to Gateway Inc.--Jerryseinfeld 03:10, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Business Model

message: Could someone write about them owning Amiga and them putting the kibosh on Jim Collas' plans for the new Amiga resulting in his resignation and selling of his shares?
--137.205.139.44 22:10, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Amiga 

message: I have reverted edits by User:151.205.113.51. I am a computer support professional, and I think Gateway has above-average support. They use industry standard components, and have a remarkably comprehensive and helpful support website. The user clearly has a bone to pick. --24.17.30.163 23:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have re-removed the section (prior to noticing this earlier thread).  While I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment, it's not appropriate to use an anonymous internet review forum as a citation for allegations of inferior support, per Wikipedia:Reliable Sources.  Neil916 (Talk) 07:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted paragraph about inferior support 

message: A criticism section should be added for this company in order to better balance it out with other companies (Microsoft, Apple, Dell, ect...) simply for the sake of objectivity. One must look at the whole picture of a company afterall, not just the positive if they wish to have a truly informed opinion... hence why I think the Microsoft, Apple Computer and Dell, Inc. pages are soo good. Also, this Gateway page seems a little skimpy and could use some meat so to speak ;) 216.58.43.69 03:00, 9 February 2006
* If the criticism of this company is similar to those you have already listed, then adding this type of section would be a good idea, provided it follows the guidelines established for this type of thing.  Also, remember to source everything! Bowmanjj 16:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: I certainly agree with Bowmanjj.There should be a criticism or "Cons" side. This article rather strongly focuses on the major successes of the company and hardly any of its falls in market shares or anything else.It makes the company sound like a baby cow!
Vistajai 20:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add, I certainly don't think there should be a critisism or 'cons' section - I feel negative sections like that often tip an article somewhat. Rather, I think some 'negative' information should be incorporated in the article as it stands. TheIslander 20:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's leaning a bit over, the Gateway page.... 

message: Everybody knows that gateway had a shockingly awful reputation in the early 2000s (in Europe at least) for products turning up late and defective. I knew nobody who bought their products who wanted to buy from them again. One IT professional friend had to return an ordered PC 3 times. 
This article needs a serious attempt to explain why they went so far out of favour. As it stands it is a biased piece of company fluff that completely misrepresents this company's true record of serving customers. Future historians will use the Gateway brand as a comparison with HP, Dell etc in how some companies make a business model work and some fail to get the practicalities right despite huge investment.
It is correct that Wiki eschews strong language, but sometimes, such as here, sitting on the fence gives a very distorted picture.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.102.227 (talk) 14:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor and unbalanced article - worthy of Pravda 

message: In the hardware section of 'Current Products' I found two link that go to the wrong place. The link to C-series, a series of convertible notebooks that Gateway used to market (another mistake-C-series isn't a current product)
goes to an article about an anticipated family of Bombardier Aerospace airplanes. The C-series is described in the gateway article as being, and I quote, "notebook PCs combined with tablet PC technology including handwriting recognition with a stylus much like a personal digital assistant (PDA)." 'Notebook' is a hyperlink to the page about notebooks. Not notebook computers, just notebooks.
I'm not sure, but I think that these links should go to the right articles or not be there at all  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.153.106.73 (talk) 13:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links that go to the wrong place,  

message: It will be half a millennium in the future before this era rolls around. Unfree (talk) 21:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mid-2000s

message: "Installation Instructions for Gateway Laptops" appears to have disappeared. Unfree (talk) 01:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad external link

message: Actually, he's been gone for a few years now. Is he still there because he was an important figure, or does this just need to be updated? I wanted to ask before removing his name. Greenw47 (talk) 01:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rick Snyder

message: Instead of displaying a list of all of the currently selling products (as this list can change rather quickly) why not just display a list of the series...so instead of SX2800 and SX2300, just put SX Series.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.124.119.130 (talk) 20:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reworking Current Product List 

message: The article is almost completely lacking in any historical account of where Gateway computers were/are manufactured, which was a fundamental element of the company's brand. Gateway's early advertising made a huge point about the source of their products (presumably middle America), which was the whole purpose of the spotted cow logo. Implicit in the Gateway experience was the idea that you were buying a computer made in the USA--built by wholesome people in the Plains states. At some point, the company went public (no information here) and at some point, presumably (although one would never know it from reading this article), the board made a business decision to move production offshore, which basically negated its entire core brand identity. Gateways became just another product of cheap offshore labor and the only thing to differentiate them from the competition was a meaningless logo.
To write an article about Gateway without addressing this is like writing an article about McDonald's without mentioning hamburgers.
Among the major omissions that need to be addressed:
Where were/are the company's products made?
Were they ever made in Iowa? If so, when? Why did it stop? 
When did the company go public?
Who made the decisions to move the company and its production and why?Snschulze (talk) 15:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, just another sucky Wikipedia article about a company. See WP:BOLD. Someone not using his real name (talk) 08:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made in the USA 

message: On the 8th of August 2001 the European Headquarters in Dublin closed. Didn't see any mention of that, or indeed of the visit around that time by Bill Clinton to the plant. These articles tend to be very one - dimensional in terms of facts.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.234.181 (talk) 02:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of Dublin Ireland HQ 

message: I had expected that the Wikipedia page would have some history of the products produced.  Gateway has used different model numbers for any slight difference in the configuration, so it is difficult to find similar models that can be salvaged for replacement parts.  I didn't find any product history info on the web, so I am listing my tentative conclusions from what was able to find about the various product series.  
My main interest was the MT & MX series, so those are is the only ones I have looked at in detail.  There appears to be an MA-series model number associated with each laptop in the MT & MX series.  I suspect that the MA series has something do with the overall mechanical configuration.
A - tablet;
LT - notebook;
NV - notebook;
NE - notebook;
ID - ?;
ML - ?;
NX - ?;
M - ?;
DX - desktop;
FX - desktop;
LX - desktop ?;
SX - desktop;
ZX - desktop;
MT - laptops that came with Win Vista;
MX - laptops that came with Win XP
I hope others can contribute more information.  I can provide a list of web sites where I gathered this info if the editors think that is necessary.
Lloyd Ewing (talk) 09:21, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expected to find product history 

message: Like many articles, particularly those on topics from the last few decades, it's just an accumulation of "and then this happened" news stories but doesn't explain why the topic is important. Any encyclopedic overview of Gateway should address:
*Its rapid rise in the public consciousness in the late 1990s.
*The fact that, despite being perhaps the best-known consumer desktop computer brand for 5+ years, it was never a major company when measured by actual sales volume, peaking at around 4% of the computer hardware market in its best year; and what these two facts combined say about the relationship between hype and profitability during the first tech bubble.
*The company's rapid collapse in the mid-2000s to worthlessness and being sold as a nameplate brand to a low-end Taiwanese firm.
That seems to be the "Gateway story" that's missing here in favor of arbitrary news stories thrown together with no coherence.  Predestiprestidigitation (talk) 11:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honestly the whole article lacks focus 

message: Weren't they like out of business for a while back when their website didn't work and one couldn't find any downloads for Gateway products?
I'm just curios if anyone would know.
Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.91.57 (talk) 07:22, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of their troubles are explained by this: bankruptcy filed mpc corporation, formerly gateway computers Clear up that Gateway Pro was the topic with MPC Corporation Holidaypepsi (talk) 17:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of business? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Russified 198.27.219.86 (talk) 02:58, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where! Is on a GATE WAY 

message: The legacy of Gateway needs to be moved elsewhere into the article and the beginning of the article needs to reflect the new company. I'm trying to get reliable sources in the mean time, hopefully all of you can help in this matter. 2601:642:4400:9F00:69DD:AC2A:552D:EA83 (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs updating.  

message: This article on Gateway needs more references. It's an abomination of an article, not even worthy of existing, because of so many lack of citations and original research.
It also contradicts itself. Please provide enough solid evidence on the founding year. Was it 1985 or 1987? No, one cite isn't gonna be enough.
Not to mention the poorly formatted section with this line: "Gateway moved build-to-order desktop, laptop, and server manufacturing back to the United States..." Where from? Why did it go there, to begin with?
A better description of their business tech would be nice. Some example hardware, for instance, more specific than just "they made PCs".
I request that this article, if not fixed, either be deleted or merged into Acer. 199.192.194.118 (talk) 15:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree wholeheartedly, this article was a travesty. I have now majorly expanded it; please tell me what you think. DigitalIceAge (talk) 08:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple issues