Talk:Malaysia Airlines

message: Hope someone can open a new article relating Enrich Tiers.I will create a link and can sumone put information in? Thanks Marcusaffleck 10:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Enrich Tiers

message: MAS Aerotech. is already changed to Engineering and Maintenance Div. It used to be a subsidiary of MAS. Previously, there were two division of MAS engineering, MAS Aerotech at Subang and MAS Engineering and Maintenance at KLIA. I think, because of the rationalization, which aim to cut cost, MAS Aerotech. co. is merged with E&M div., thus they share the same admin.141.213.66.173 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAS Aerotechnologies 

message: it's not a flight school. MAS never had their own flight school. I hope somebody will rectify the error in the entry  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssangyongs (talk • contribs) 08:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAS Academy 

message: Editors, please note that for Malaysia Airlines Select system,it should be called IFE,not on-board entertainment.On-board Entertainment can be many types including IFE systems.Marcusaffleck 03:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Flight Entertainment 

message: (Please refer to, and respond  at, talk:Singapore Airlines. Thanks.) — Instantnood 18:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History of MSA

message: MAS is a good thesis for bad Government Linked Corporate management. In the articles, I see there is ambiguous tone about the ownership and management. In deed, all CEO from MAS are political appointed. 
--Sltan 10:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership, management and financial turmoil 

message: It was stated on the page that MAS plans to purchase wide body aircrafts, among them the new Boeing 747-8, Airbus A350XWB and additional orders for the A380. It was also mentioned that MAS has selected the Boeing 737-900ER to replace the 737-400. While it is known that MAS is issuing RFPs for new aircrafts, I could not find any sources to confirm the aircraft type. Is there any source that could verify this?
76.49.194.153 13:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plans to replace their wide bodied aircrafts as stated in Malaysian's newspapers.Marcusaffleck 07:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fleet Replacement Program 

message: Calling all Malaysian Wikipedians around the world!! It is high time for us to start our own WikiProject for Malaysia..any one can create/assiting me to create WikiProject Malaysia.Marcusaffleck 11:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Malaysia 

message: I have merged Enrich into the main MAS article. There was no assertion of notability on that articles, all sources were primary sources, and it clearly was a violation of WP:NOT#TRAVEL and not advertising. The tendency is to merge FFP into main articles, AA, BA, UA, etc all having these in the main article. It is either that or put the articles up for deletion, where they likely would have little chance for survival on their own. --Russavia 10:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enrich merged into this article 

message: I think it should be reverted back to the orignal version. Jannisri 06:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corporate Information 

message: The MH page is due to be revamp and more information should be added in. Jannisri (talk) 12:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Revamp 

message: Does relay MAL gets delivery of the A380 i April 2011 is it not in 2012 ? EWR" 08:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A380 ? 

message: I thought the new First and Business Classes were introduced in 2004? 161.130.178.17 (talk) 04:52, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New First and Business Class 

message: Some edits are clearly done by the marketing department of Malaysia Airlines. What should we do about it?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepyhead81 (talk • contribs) 
:If there's nothing terribly wrong with the information that's being added, I don't think we have to do anything. It's rare to see a marketing department leave information about unprofitability and fatal accidents. My reading of the edits is that they aren't overly promotional. CMD (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree. Much of the wording were promotional. I removed some as you can see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_Airlines&diff=484658696&oldid=484280305 --Sleepyhead (talk) 15:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I readded a couple of sections you removed. How an organisation/company presents itself is useful information. However, obviously if you see promotional wording, it should be reworded. CMD (talk) 12:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by Malaysian Airlines marketing department 

message: The logo used in the wiki page is the old logo. The all blue already been scrapped and replaced with the new red-blue logo. You may refer to MH website for the new logo design. Hope someone can change it since I am not good in inserting picture into wiki page. Thanks. Rahimiraduan (talk) 09:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  MH logo 

message: I just read on several news sites they have a plane missing. Malaysia Airlines has “lost contact” with a Beijing-bound plane carrying 239 people.
In a statement, the airline said flight MH370 departed Kuala Lumpur just at 12:41 a.m. (local time) on March 8.
The plane was expected to land in Beijing approximately six hours later.
The airline said authorities have activated their search-and-rescue team in an effort to locate the plane.
The airline said 227 passengers and 12 crew members are onboard the B777-200 aircraft.
98.240.76.78 (talk) 01:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for posting the update. Info on MH370 is here: http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6NuT37dZp WhisperToMe (talk) 02:20, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  That have a plane missing now. 

message: Should the fleet number be changed as 9M-MRO crashed  Maodi xn (talk) 05:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fleet 

message: The airline is referred to as either Malaysia Airlines or Malaysian Airlines.  Their website says Malaysia Airlines.  Is it ok to change all references to Malaysia Airlines? Their official business name is Malaysian Airline System Berhad, while their trading name is Malaysia Airlines.  Therefore unless referring to the full business name, the name should appear as Malaysia Airlines.  Merxa (talk) 00:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Anywhere in particular in the article as I cant see any use of Malaysian accept in context of the business name or previous names. MilborneOne (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Malaysia vs Malaysian

message: MH370 has its own article we have no need to repeat anything here and the entry in accident and incidents is fine, just keep it simple. MilborneOne (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Malaysian 370

message: *Rahman, Saifur. "MAS to resume Dubai-New York flight" (Archive). Gulf News. May 12, 2002.
This is proof that MAS flew New York to Dubai. At the time it was the only "direct" flight between the UAE and the USA. I don't know where the info will go
WhisperToMe (talk) 03:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAS flew New York to Dubai 

message: Please do not add MH17 to the fleet section, aircraft accidents are listed in the appropriate section or if like recent events in the history narrative but not in the fleet section, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 09:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: with MilborneOne here.--220 of Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fleet 

message: As likely as it seems that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was brought down by a missile, this is still to be officially confirmed. That page's infobox  still says:
:"Summary
:Suspected of having been shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile; exact cause is still under investigation"
Here at Malaysia Airlines#2014 aircraft losses it also says;
:"Flight 17 crashed ... after it was believed to have been hit with a surface-to-air missile."
For this reason on 4 occasions now I have reverted or altered edits here in the Accidents and incidents section adding assertions that this is an established fact. Saying "believed hit by a missile", as we do here, is about as far as I feel we can go.--220 of Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree keep it simple, it has a related article that goes into all the detail we dont need to have any more than the basic fact. MilborneOne (talk) 11:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missile? 

message: The 'Malaysia Airlines Flight 17' page currently has a notice on it saying:
:”The Arbitration Committee has permitted Wikipedia administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing this page or associated pages.”
So it sounds like it applies a here too, as a related page.--220 of Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Dont have a problem with the notice although it should be clear it relates to edits about "Eastern Europe". MilborneOne (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

text: The question who shot it down and where the weapon came from is not relevant here, since it doesn't make a major difference for Malaysia Airlines or their reputation and ticket sales. So that doesn't really apply here. CorrectKissinTime (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbcom sanctions? 

message: I have removed and challenged the statement about Malaysian flying over "potentially dangerous" warzone, it appears to indicate that Malaysian is to blame for the accident which evidence so far doesnt indicate it was. We cant list every accusation against the airline. MilborneOne (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK it appears rather than discuss the challenged addition User:Got Milked wants to edit war. They really need to come here and gain a consensus for the addition. MilborneOne (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That edit, , does seem to me a bit out of place on this page, if anywhere it should be detailed on the MH 370 page.--220 of Borg 16:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Why overfly

message: The sub-section seems to be located in the wrong place. IMHO, aircraft-related stuff fits better within the "Fleet" section. That said, I don't think this is of encyclopedic value, mostly considering that there's not even a single source supporting the content.--Jetstreamer  13:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A380 Milestones 

message: I noticed that MH is offering this program, so I archived the following:
*http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/experience/inflight-meal/mhgourmet.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8qcfYi
*http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/inflightmeal/menu_mhgourmet.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8xFJhN
*http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/inflightmeal/MH%20Gourmet%20%20Cakes.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8v7jRX
I know US Airways started something similar, but has anybody written about the cake program? That sounds unique. Maybe a news outlet or aviation magazine has written something?
WhisperToMe (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no problem with that, only we do need a secondary source in addition to those sources - TheChampionMan1234 05:16, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MH Gourmet 

message: The source next to this statemnet:The airline headquarters building in downtown Kuala Lumpur was sold. The new corporate headquarters is now at the MAS Complex on the grounds of Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport in Subang, Selan is about something totally unrelated, and I could not find any source, except wikpedia mirrors and other sites that just copy Wikipedia, should we just remove that or what? --- TheChampionMan1234 05:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Update I have removed that statement for now, until a reliable source is found, let's not add it again - TheChampionMan1234 05:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The source states: "Head of Recruitment, Human Capital Division 2nd Floor, Admin Building 4 MAS Complex B Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport 47200 Subang Selangor Darul Ehsan" but it doesn't say Bangunan MAS was sold. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

text: Source found: This one by the Star WhisperToMe (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headquarters in KL sold? 

message: A recent edit introduced an unsourced claim about a fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in 1994. This contradicts the Boeing_777 article, which states the first fatal accident on that plane was in 2013, and the Boeing 777 wasn't even in service in 1994. I cannot find any source for this claim.
Bishop2067 (talk) 11:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I can find no information about a "Malaysia Airlines Flight 76" on the web and the 777 article is correct...the first fatal accident was in 2013. AHeneen (talk) 18:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably vandalism - removed. MilborneOne (talk) 18:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced claim about a "flight 76" accident 

message: There are three section that include such topic. Don't you think its too much of information on both accident? One paragraph on the leads, one details subsection and of course on Accidents&Incidents section. I would like to propose the deletion of a paragraph on the leads for being redundant and excessive. Such section should, as like other airlines, include brief introduction only. Tafeax (talk) 09:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that a paragraph is too long. However, WP:Lead requires the lead to summarize the entire article (some facts are in the infobox) and these incidents are included because they're a notable part of the airline's history (the last three paragraphs of the lead) and the last paragraph concerns all incidents. I've trimmed the paragraph to just 1 sentence about the flights. AHeneen (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flight 370 and Flight 17 on leads 

message: Please note that according to the references attached alongwith the changes, the ownership (in the manner of shareholding) of MAS is with Khazanah Nasional Bhd., the holding company for the sovereign wealth fund of the Govt. of Malaysia. Penerbangan Malaysia Bhd. is a SPV meant for buy-and-leaseback of all aircraft and other capital goods to be used by Malaysia Airlines System (MAS), and is neither a holding company, nor the nominal owner of MAS.
Both MAS and PMB are subsidiaries owned either completely or substantially by KNB.
PrimusUrbisIndis 06:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership and parent company 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I've been thinking that the history section is getting a bit long, and could be better served in a separate article, History of Malaysia Airlines. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Cloudbound (talk) 20:31, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be a reasonable suggestion. MilborneOne (talk) 18:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History split 

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message: I have removed this from :Category:Airline templates as that category is for templates, not articles. Dunarc (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: If it is possible for someone to create a subsection of the history section as the default one is too long. 
Here's a temporary placeholder i've created.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Malaysia_Airlines&redirect=no Jahurz93 (talk) 12:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jahurz93, regarding your split, it appears you have copied it to the Wikipedia namespace (Wikipedia:History of Malaysia Airlines), which is not what that namespace is for. It is meant to be a draft? I feel you could host it where you have put the redirect. Best, CMD (talk) 12:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section is too long(Request) 

message: This discussion seeks to explore whether the information regarding Flight MH2664 should be restored to the article. Given the observed similarities with other incidents and the potential relevance of the data, it's crucial to consider community consensus on the matter. د بڠساون (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It is unnotable, it simply does not meet any of the requirements of WP:AIRCRASH.--Jetstreamer  11:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jetstreamer. I've noticed that MH2664 was deleted from the incidents section while MH124 remains. Given that MH2664's incident is more severe than MH124's, I'm interested in understanding the reasoning behind this discrepancy د بڠساون (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It just shouldn't be there. .--Jetstreamer  01:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion: Similarities Between Flight MH2664 and MH124 Incidents