Talk:Paratarajas

message: Deleted the sentences saying that the Paratas are thought to be an offshoot of the Apracas. I have never seen such an argument and it seems like pure speculation. No source was provided. Rani nurmai (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Eliminated unsourced assertion

message: I undid the edits by an unidentified editor in November 2011. The person seemed uninformed, identifying the reverse swastika as a fire altar and claiming a source argued the Paratas were enemies of the Indians when the source said no such thing. The idea was to restore the text to its previous state.
Rani nurmai (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Undoing previous edits on Jan 22, 2012

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ArjunaParataraja.jpg

message: Tandon (2006) states outright that he is copying the section on mentions of Parata/Parada/similar words in classical literature off Mukherjee (1972) without bothering to verify them. Regrettably, Mukherjee (1972) is not a reliable source and I will appreciate if editors can take the initiative to verify the accuracy using secondary sources. Else, the section needs to be removed. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:36, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

text: Resolved TrangaBellam (talk) 10:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

text: Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:32, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

text: 1 - Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical Sources 

message: Okay. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:41, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:36, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Herodotus

message: Tandon (2006; p. 202) mentions Periplus of the Erythraean Sea to locate one "Paradon" beyond Oman, i.e. "on the coast of modern Baluchistan."However, Lionel Casson's 1989 monograph (p. 73) on the text—mostly reproducing Hjalmar Frisk's crit. edition—notes the area to be "Παρσιδὦν", which is accurately transliterated to "Parsidai." The manuscript features (p. 259) "Παρ[]óδòν", which was (reasonably) emended by Muller to fit Ptolemy's Parsidai. Not really seeing how can one end up at "Paradon"; maybe, Schoff's faulty edition was responsible?Anyway, Tandon's conclusions stand. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:39, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved TrangaBellam (talk) 10:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Periplus

message: Messed up. Need to be nuked. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:44, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:32, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Arrian

message: Poor source: Intermediate region of Gedrosia is "Paradene"; the Parsir(d)ae dwell near the frontiers with Carmania.Consult Ptolemaios Handbuch der Geographie (2006) for details. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:10, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Ptolemy

message: 1 and 2. 
:1 - Resolved. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Pliny

message: Interesting - not the first author to accuse Peshwar of housing such a workshop. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: 2 TrangaBellam (talk) 17:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have this book linked in your last post (Seals, Sealings, and Tokens from Bactria to Gandhara (4th to 8th century CE)), in case you are interested. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 15:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coin forgeries 

message: I am a bit curious about whether you, Pataliputra, feel yet that Yolamara needs his own page. Why or why not? I think the historical evidence is far better than the Nezak King! (PLEASE, this is not an invitation to create the page.) TrangaBellam (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In any case, we need redirects for each ruler except Arjuna. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Jimmy Wales famously said: “Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge”. With this encyclopedic ideal in mind, I tend to think that any significant subject for which knowledge is available should have its own entry on Wikipedia. Individual rulers are generally significant subjects, and if scholars have bothered to study and discuss them, then it is clearly worthwhile and legitimate to have an entry for them in the encyclopedia. In the world of Internet, there is no real value in trying to reduce page numbers and centralize rulers on a single dynastic page (Of course, I am not advocating the creation of myriads of stubs either: content has to be relatively significant). Arguably, on the contrary, having individual pages actually facilitates navigation (in-page links are cumbersome and completely unreliable over time), and opens up the potential of adding more detailed information when new discoveries or new analysis become available. That said, I am not so interested in the Paratarajas as to make individual pages of their kings at this point. Thank you for the invitation though :) पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 17:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standalone Pages 

message: Is an average reader expected to know Brahmi? Do you mean to do this for each ruler? TrangaBellam (talk) 17:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It is fairly customary to give transcriptions of the coin legends in the original language when possible (see Latin, Greek etc...). And many people who are interested in this subject actually will have a level of understanding of Brahmi. I think one example is probably enough though, as it is sufficient to give a sense of the readability of the legend, its structure, and how it is transcribed and translated. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 17:46, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Just a reminder that the Brahmi coin legend in question is directly sourced from:  पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 20:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not think that our articles shall be drafted with specialists as the intended audience but since there is no governing rule, it boils down to editorial discretion. What do  and  say? TrangaBellam (talk) 18:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If it was on a simple image I might have been against it. But I'm not too sure when it's like that tbh. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coin legend 

message: , can you geolocate the site of "Tor Dherai"? Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 16:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The closest place we can locate is Duki, which is its district headquarters. This hillock seems to be marked as "Tor Ghar" in the survey map. Everything in that area is marked "Ghar" and there is no "Dherai" in sight. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! TrangaBellam (talk) 09:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tor Dherai 

message: How to link  in endnote e with the reference in the bibliography? TrangaBellam (talk) 09:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: . I have done it now. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to a reference 

message: * Write a decent lead.
* Read Tandon (2009).
* Upload more coin-images. TrangaBellam (talk) 09:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do 

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::*It appears to me that Lal is correct. Any opinions? TrangaBellam (talk) 10:13, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The fate of the Tor Dherai potsherds