Talk:Battlement

message: Agree. One article should be able to cover this type of structure. Although redirects should be used for all the various terms. Also What about merging Machiolation here? Brendandh 15:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger with [[Battlement]]

message: Italian military architects devised the Ghibelline or swallowtail battlement, with V-shaped notches in the tops of the merlon, giving a horn-like effect. The normal rectangular-shaped merlons were called Guelph.  
I have requested citations because buildings with swallowtail merlons can be found in almost every Gelph city (check out the links on the Guelphs and Ghibellines page) and are synonymous with "norman" archetecture in Sicily, as can be seen in "Siculo-Norman Art" [] furthermore as you can see many date to the middle or later part of the 12C which predates the formation of the Ghibellines as an organisation.
Barbayaga (talk) 11:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In heraldry the M-shaped line is called "merlato alla ghibellina", and the square wave "merlato alla guelfa". Doesn't necessarily mean it was in fact a sure sign of alignment. On the other hand, how many towns were exclusively one or the other? —Tamfang (talk) 23:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghibelline Merlons? 

message: I merged crenellation into this... I think the crenellation article doesn't at all explain the difference between the two terms. LEt me know. --Attilios (talk) 12:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger rationale

message: The list of licenses to crenellate ought to be hidden (by default). —Tamfang (talk) 19:03, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree, it would help with the readability of the article. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the list. On top of the above issues of readability, the list was copied from Davis' article on the subject and attributed only to "The Castle Studies Group". Thinking this was a breach of copyright, I asked Moonriddengirl how to handle this but she points out that sweat of the brow isn't recognised by US law so doesn't affect Wikipedia. In any case, the Wikipedia article has a link to Davis' work which is as it should be since it is an important paper and easily available in PDF format through the Castle Studies Group website. Nev1 (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The list of licences has been resurrected in its own article licence to crenellate, which will not affect the readability of the article Battlement. If anyone thinks it now interferes with the readabilty of licence to crenellate, then it can if desired be de-merged into a separate article consisting of list only. WP contains many long lists on many topics, stand-alone and otherwise. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The list is freely available online, and there is a link in this article and the licence to crenellate one. Exactly duplicating that article on Wikipedia makes no sense. Nev1 (talk) 18:36, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  spare me 

message: Hi. I've reverted again, for two reasons.
*Firstly, particularly if you're new to WP, have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section - the current version doesn't follow these guidelines.
*Secondly, the phrase "A pattern of structure focused of structure of actions of defensive capability" doesn't make any real sense to me. This might just be me, but I don't think it's very helpful as a term. 
Hchc2009 (talk) 17:29, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All your structure focused of structure of actions are belong to us! —Tamfang (talk) 17:35, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "A structured action of structured spamming focused on structure of actions of defensive capability." :) Hchc2009 (talk) 17:38, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent additions... 

message: :"Battlements often have protected walkways (chemin de ronde) behind them."
Should this not rather read something like "Battlements on walls have protected walkways (chemin de ronde) behind them."?  A crenellated parapet, on a wall, with no walkway behind it would be non-functional, "false", purely decorative.  Thus it would not meet the definition of battlement, which is a crenellated parapet designed to protect a man as he fires arrows out.
I'm going to go ahead and change it.    Heavenlyblue (talk) 21:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  chemin de ronde 

message: In the Randle Holme work these terms seem to all go back to, both terms definitely refer to ashlars, and may even refer to shallow machicolation, not to crenelation. Either way, though, both are stones, not gaps. “kneeler” appears to be used, actually, in the ordinary sense of knee-stone; the same sort more usually used at the foot of a gable. Qwirkle (talk) 09:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheelers and kneelers