Talk:Wool

message: All the article talks about is where wool comes from, how we use it, and what we think about it. No where is there any sign at all of the chemical composition of wool. Let alone how wool keratin protein differs from that of human hair, for example. Or what role grease plays. Odd! (Trumpism)
--77.175.246.205 (talk) 22:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is wool? It is never mention in the article, anywhere. 

message: Could we add something about superwash wool?  As I understand it there are two methods which result in a wool which won't shrink or felt.  Also, we should add the pros and cons of superwash wool.  KannD86 (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the same question. What is the process to create washable wool? Kingturtle (talk) 02:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cgoodwin. Thanks! Kingturtle (talk) 04:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I should have included it earlier. Cgoodwin (talk) 04:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Superwash wool yarn

message: That picture of the sheep is overlapping some words.(This unsigned comment left at 17:13, 19 January 2006 by 147.222.188.230)
sorry  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.202.39.15 (talk) 11:22, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture?

message: sorry to jump in to your comments here my computer seems to be in charge. my question i looked up flocculent??? wool??? (This unsigned comment left at 21:15, 20 January 2006 by 24.17.78.245)
:This is what used to be at the flocculent page before it was changed to point here: flocculent is an adjective describing something appearing fluffy or woolly. Compare flocculant. --Ali@gwc.org.uk 23:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was researching flocculents yesterday and instead of going to a page on them at Wikipedia my entry of "flocculent" redirected me to wool.  The redirect for "flocculent" should be to the Wikipedia page on Flocculation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocculation, rather than wool, the above adjectival relation notwithstanding.  A link at the latter to the former would suffice.  I do not know how to do/undo redirects.  Who can correct this and/or offer advice on how-to.  Thank you.  Wikiuser100 (talk) 12:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Flocculent

message: Unlike synthetic fibers, is wool fire resistant/retartant? (This unsigned comment left at 15:55, 28 January 2006 by 216.254.113.62)
:Not significantly afaik; its chief advantage in fires (which it shares with other natural fibres) is that it will burn cleanly rather than melting onto skin, seats, etc.  Incidentally, please type ~~~~ at the end of your posts to sign them. /blahedo (t) 21:13, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fire resistance?

message: Hoping that someone might be able to add some content that explains what Virgin Wool is.  Thanks.
--Sferrier 19:04, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Virgin wool is a wool that has not previously been used in manufacture. Virgin wool is wool which has not been used before by anyone other than the sheep. It's sheared, cleaned, spun, and turned into the garment you have before you without ever having been another garment or fabric. The idea of recycled wool in one's clothing is alien to many these days. These days clothing is cheap and raw materials plentiful. If you walk into a department store and look at a selection of sweaters in a rainbow array of colors, chances are very few will be labeled "virgin wool" but at the same time not one will have a single recycled fiber in it. It wasn't always so, however. [see http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1772730]
"A bale of raw wool, or grease wool, straight fromt he sheep, can contain as little as 50 percent wool, the rest being wool grease, burs, seeds, and other vegetable matter, body salts, and dirt". In Wool, Fabric of History - National Geographic, May 1988.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.109.105 (talk) 14:01, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Virgin wool/new wool?

message: Someone changed the second paragraph maliciously, (changed wool to drool, inserted the word 'gay' a couple of times) so I changed it back to whatever it was right before that.  I also put a brief definition of 'virgin wool' in the 'Uses' section.   Cicatrix 04:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted Page 

message: Why are details given about sheep flocks in the US when it produces just .77% of the global wool clip? It would be alright to leave the details about the US, but only if details are also given about countries that have significant levels of production, eg China and New Zealand. --Colourblind 04:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because there are more English Wikipedia editors in the US than anywhere else. To bring back a balance I agree with you -- attention needs to be paid to add information about sheep husbandry outside the US. — Donama 04:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have such information, write it in.PrometheusX303 07:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production question 

message: Maybe I just don't know wool science but the statement that wool contains carbon dioxide seems suspect such CO2 is a gas. I did some google searchs and found nothing about this. If this is is true it needs more explanation and a source (I was unable to find anything about it after a short google search) -- 67.101.146.57 20:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wool does not contain Carbon Dioxide but it is a sink for carbon dioxide and glass fleece is based on glass fibers not on wool.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.109.105 (talk) 13:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wool contains Carbon Dioxide?

message: I've been making some pretty heavy changes to this page. I pretty much overhauled the references section, since there were, I think, three cited sources, and they were not cited consistently or in keeping with current standards. I did try to keep & update the sources that were there, but it was patchy guesswork in some instances, so please contribute if you have any insights on them.
As for new sections, I haven't even looked at the history or uses parts. I was in the middle of making a stub section on common breeds, but my browser ate it, and I don't know too much about breeds, other than they exist, so I was having trouble paring down the huge lists I found as sources into summaries anyway. I also found a better source (http://www.textilelinks.com/author/rb/971021.html) for the quality section than the somewhat scattered stuff that is there now - I'll try to integrate/re-do it when I have time.
Hopefully nobody takes offense at anything I've done I'm not much of an expert in this area, and appreciate any feedback you have in making this page better.
--Spyforthemoon 22:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 11/06 Overhaul

message: I suggest that virgin wool should be merged into this article - there's almost do information there, and what is there makes no sense. - PKM 03:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion to move the Virgin wool article into the Wool article.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 12:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. - PKM 16:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: "Long and short hair wool at the South Central Family Farm Research Center in Boonesville, Arizona". The caption is wrong, In the industry the samples would be called hair and wool. The hair sample has no value. The difference in the shown samples is micron. Really is a poor photo and should go. Perhaps a photo of a carpet wool fleece and a merino fleece. That would be interesting.
2nd statement in introduction is wrong, sheep wool has the overlapping scales, cashmere doesn't. Carpet wool and alpaca even less so. Perhaps some pictures of the fibres under the microscope.
Charles Esson 14:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: This sentence bothers me: "It's kind of an itchy substance, and also pretty hot, too." While I agree that it would be useful information to include in the introduction, I think it could be said in a more encyclopedia-like and objective way. I suggest "Wool fibers are commonly used in winter clothing, as they are not a good conductor of heat. A downside to this, however, is the common itchiness that wearers of wool clothing experience." I don't know wether that loses some clarity, however. If anyone can improve that sentence, it would be greatly appreciated by all.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Miggyb (talk • contribs). 
:I removed the poorly worded sentence and added a fact tag for the last paragraph.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 15:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: This sort of statement is not a proper entry for an encyclopedia, specially because there are no references to such a fact. Even if properly referenced, such a statement does not belong to an encyclopedia. Please remove it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.109.105 (talk) 14:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed along with most of that section Geoff Plourde (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A woollen rug has protected a horse from severe burns when his trailer caught alight 

message: Why did someone delete my addition? I found that out in the vatican library. Please apoligise.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.54.105 (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did someone delete my addition? 

message: That entire ph sounded like an ad for wool. Recovers its shape? Streches more than any synthetic fiber? Nonsense. The first ref I pulled up says that Spandex streches 600% and recovers its shape  - that's 3x the claim made for wool. Deleted because even a fact tag wasn't going to save this ph. Bob98133 (talk) 17:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stretch 

message: I need to know if wool collects static electricity for a knitting project. This article says that wool does NOT collect static electricity. After doing some research on the web, I have found contradictory information. At  it says that wool has the capacity to develop high positive electrostatic charges. In the wikipedia article it specifically mentions that wool carpet is less likely to create a static shock. The electrostatics.net site specifically mentions wools carpets as being more likely to create static shock. Now I am not sure which reference is correct. Can someone please clarify if wool truly does resist static or is inclined to create a positive static charge? If it does indeed have a high positive charge, then I believe the article should be changed. Thanks!
Bgirl029 (talk) 18:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Static Resistant? Or Not? 

message: I just updated the wool marketing australia section to include electronic trading and adjust the private treaty number sales % which is incorrect. I will put in the sources for the stats shortly. Someone should beef up the direct to mill section too.  Tony Benson (talk) 05:10, 5 Jan 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing adjustment 

message: These two ELs serve little purpose and provide little info. They should be removed. Posted per request in article to discuss prior to removal or addition of ELs.
*Natural Colored Wool Growers Association
*Australian Wool Fashion Awards
Bob98133 (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ELs to be removed 

message: Perhaps this article should be renamed Wool (sheep) to avoid confusion with the many other forms of wool which have nothing to do with the commonest form of wool. Some of these include supposed other animal wools, steel wool, bronze wool, cotton wool, mineral wool and so on. Thoughts? Cgoodwin (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A user looking for "wool" is most likely to be looking for sheep's wool; per Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC Wool is the correct title for this article. - PKM (talk) 03:51, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title? 

message: The article doesn't really explain what is meant when it says wool has scales, and talks about scaling. Mohair says "While it has scales like wool, the scales are not fully developed, merely indicated.[2] Thus, mohair does not felt as wool does." What does that mean? Felt doesn't really explain that either. So really all three articles could use some work to make that more clear. Rifter0x0000 (talk) 03:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: An uncommon property of wool fibers is that they have microscopic barbs running along the length.  Mechanical agitation such as hammering or agitating in a washing machine causes the barbs to link together, similar to Velcro.  Thus the felting is an irreversible and it causes shrinkage in all directions.  Any mention of "thickening" in this article is suspect.  I am familiar with this property of wool because it was used to make the press felts for paper machines.  These are the fabrics that transported the wet paper web through the press rolls and onto which the expressed water was absorbed.  I added a statement about this under the characteristics section, but no longer have the reference because wool for paper machine felts was replaced by synthetics decades ago.  Perhaps someone in the industry can supply a reference. [User:Phmoreno|Phmoreno]] (talk) 02:51, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scales? 

message: If wool is hypoallergenic, then why does it cause hives, which are usually allergic reactions? Is there another mechanism involved, and if so, could the article discuss this? 173.66.211.53 (talk) 19:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypoallergenic? 

message: In the third paragraph in the section "History", there is a sentence that begins, "Both pre-industries".  It is not completely clear to what, exactly, this refers.  Three areas of production are mentioned earlier in this same paragraph:  the Champagne Fairs and nearby production in places like Provins, production in the Low Countries, and production in central Italy.  Something needs to be added to make it clear which pre-industries are meant by "Both pre-industries".  Perhaps someone who knows the history could clarify this. – CorinneSD (talk) 17:40, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I'm just wondering whether a section for "Carbon footprint" is necessary. I don't recall seeing this type of section in articles on other materials. The information just added to this article is encyclopedic. Perhaps it could be added to another existing section. CorinneSD (talk) 01:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Many things have carbon footprints, but I don't think it would be appropriate to add a similar section to the articles for every manufactured item. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 01:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carbon footprint 

message: You're not ready to use the wool when you have scoured it.  You still have to comb, card, spin, dye, maybe some other things.  They need to be discussed in this article in the order they have to be done.
108.18.136.147 (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  incomplete 

message: Sorry, this information is incorrect:  The German wool market – based on sheep of Spanish origin – did not overtake British wool until comparatively late. 
- The german wool market start by a edict of Karl the great around 790 AD.
In the middle of 15th. was the german family of Fugger start in wooltrading and wool clothes and exported it in a europe with many wars. They was a weaver, a Copper trading was her business for a short time. Around 1700-1750 the france king declared a import stop for german sheeps and slauther sheep in france. German sheeps was to cheap. German wool producer send now her sheeps about Flandern, Amsterdam and other nl citys. It was ideal connected and the complicated structures of german countrys find a clever way to break this france import stop. the center of wool was next to nl boarder, many floor names shows connection to wool productions.
A base of german sheeps in spain is nonsense, middle age races of german sheeps are genetic far away from spanish source but near to hanse network in baltic and northsea. They was not very fine, mostly the wool was used for army and poor peoples. the fine cloth market was in the hand of venedic or other italian citys and spain merino monopol.
The spanish merino sheeps based of a moslem/arabian sheep import and was the finest in europe. They builded a merino monopol from 13-18th after the reconquista, was is broken around 1835 or so. 
To this time, in germany was more sheeps then humans incl. east prussia, silesia and polish pommern, but the live siuation for the workers was very very hard. A old gilde system from 13th-18th was the ground for this working situation. The last wolf is shot to this time. Many revoltes around 1835-1848 force the wool producers to outsourcing (juni 1844 the silesian revolte, background of The Silesian Weavers by Heinrich Heine, a other Author of "the capital" Karl Marx fleed 1844 in London exil, his friend friedrich engels was a clothing producer, settled 1845 in bruessel, than london and died in london exil). In only 4 years 1844-1848 germany has lost 95% of his sheeps, more than 6 mio was lost and in same time a plus of 6 mio sheeps in england. 
The english producers imported many merino sheeps from spain and remixed with old english races for better wool.  The sheep breeding grew rapidly and many modern sheep races was created with fine merino wool.
A second factor whas the industral revolution and with him came the manchester capitalism. England has now more than 8 mio sheeps for a short time. Result of this was the Factory Act of 1847, this bad image force the wool production to outsourced outside of england around 1845-1870 e.g. irland, island, america, australia and all other english colonies. 100% of australian sheep race based of english merino sheeps, many of american sheeps and sheep dogs came per import from england, they all have the same merino genetic with sources in spain merino sheep. 
around 1870 australia has more than 40 mio Sheeps, around 1890 was the highest sheep time with more than 68 mio sheeps, more than all other countrys in the world. The woldwide sheep production has exploded in not more than 30 years.
Around 1844-1848 the german fortyniners (revoluzzer) arrived america in follow of german revolution of 1848, around 1850-1870 came a big wave of irish migration to america.
Info: the german textil production is has a very very bad documentation, but i found a old studie from 1975 about this time with concrete information and i hope this can help to understand a realistic image of this time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.142.56.161 (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry. I cannot understand this. -Roxy, the PROD. . wooF 21:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  English / German Sheep Market 

message: Wool differs in several obvious ways from the fir or hair of most animals.  It does not shed to maintain a constant length, but continues to grow, like human head hair.  It is not straight like the hair of its wild relatives, and it is even-grained, lacking the coarse longer guard hairs over a fine downy layer in most other animals.  It would be good to have something about the genetics controlling the various woolliness mutations in animals, and their relationship to domestication, and what selects against it in wild populations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martino3 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  genetics and origin