Talk:Jesus/Archive 86

message: Just wondering how can people determine time before or after Jesus time?????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.195.139.80 (talk) 04:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you mean? Your question is somewhat vague.--C.Logan 04:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

text: If that's what was meant, then I believe some clear answers can be found at Anno Domini.--C.Logan 04:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember only a few things from our religious education lessons, and one of them was something about Jesus being born like 5 years past the "zero year". So, how do you explain that if we say that its the year 2008 and we mean it like jesus was born about 2008 years ago, but still he was born about 2003 years ago.Skele 21:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I believe most religious scholars put Jesus' birth at 4 BC or even earlier (using Herod's death as an upper bound). Hence, 2008 is more like 2012 years after his birth. Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 21:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

text:  See, it doesn't make any senseSkele 23:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it does, actually. It's simply due to a miscount of regnal periods, I believe... the discrepancy was not realized until relatively recently, and obviously it's a bit late to change things. We base our history on the thoughts and works of ancient scholars, and so we're bound to inherit some of their errors. It's kind of disturbing when you realize that some cultures and periods of time are only known to us through these men; our history could be fabricated, or misread. In any case, just chalk this one up to human error.---- C.Logan (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date and Year that Jesus Christ was born 

message: See Talk:Yeshua_%28name%29/Jesus#Jesus_is_a_Greek_name.2C_Not_Hebrew Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 21:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jesus is a Greek Name, Not Hebrew

message: Is anyone ever going to get around to creating that page, or should it simply be removed? I've seen it as the redlink at the bottom of this talk page for quite some time now, and I'm wondering if it's even necessary at this point. Does anyone have any information regarding this category, and its current status?--C.Logan 05:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a simple enough task to start a category (just add a header and a few categories). But I'm concerned that there is only a single article in the whole Jesus workgroup (:Category:Jesus work group articles). I guess the best place to take this up would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Jesus work group. The group looks fairly inactive.-Andrew c [talk] 13:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A-Class Jesus work group articles" 

message: Since there always seems to be so much posting and discussion of unverifiable/bogus/already-rejected-by-community information, I believe we should make a FAQ about the article like that of Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/FAQ. There we could outline the discussions and consensuses about certain facts that appear to pop up. bibliomaniac15 A straw poll on straw polls 01:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, could even provide the relevant wikilinks as evidence of prior discussion, as well as the links to the relevant WP policies. Chensiyuan 03:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAQ 

message: While I generally am not a fan of filling articles with categories, it is clearly understandable that notable individuals are going to have more categories. That said, I noticed someone recently added :Category:Manifestations of God in the Bahá'í Faith, and that was reverted. I also notice that we don't have :Category:Prophets in Islam. I am proposing now that we include both in order to have a more holistic, NPOV stance on how other notable religions categorize Jesus. Note that we currently have a Messianic Judaism category, which is by far less prevelant than Islam, and Bahá'í is also a larger group (by a factor of perhaps 15) than Messianic Judaism. -Andrew c [talk] 06:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this is necessary for NPOV reasons. Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 13:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories and religions