Talk:Regions of France

message: Why are the régions d'outre-mer numbered 971 to 974?  — Instantnood 14:37, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)
:The départements d'outre-mer are numbered 971 to 974. Régions have no number. Hardouin 13:05, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Région d'outre-mer

message: In the names of French regions and departments, the morphemes "Basse" and "Haute" seem to occur frequently.  At first, I thought there was some place called "Haute" that got divided up.  But further investigation indicate that these translate to "low" and "high", respectively.  Would it be appropriate to translate them to "Lower" and "Upper" when they appear in these names?  Either that or the more literal translations would be very helpful to English readers who don't speak much or any French.  Thanks, Beland 05:12, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: When a department is named Haute it usually means that the river from which the department take it's name from has it's source here or some other geographic feature like mountains is prominent in the department. For example Haute Marne has the source of the river Marne and Haut Rhin has the source of the river Rhin, Haute Savoie is more mountaous than Savoie ("Haute" and "Haut" are the same word with different genders). Haute (or Haut) can be translated into English as both "High", "Higher" and "Upper" and Basses (or Bas) as "Low" or "Lower" --David PJ Webster 12:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They have since been translated in article names and the map in this article. -- Beland (talk) 16:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately (making these articles inconsistent with the treatment of other French territorial divisions)! Can anyone direct me to where the discussion leading to this renaming decision took place? -- Picapica (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually Haute-Savoie's average elevation is lower than that of Savoie. In that case, Haute-Savoie is "upper" with respect to the Savoie.--Mole2 (talk) 01:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basse and Haute 

message: I was reading the page on Corsica, and it mentions that it is one of the 26 régions of France. The term région redirects to region. Previously, it redirected to Régions of France, but the person who changed the redirect made this note: "amending redirect; France not the only country to use "région")." I think the redirect should go to this artcicle, Régions of France, and not to region. Anyone else agree? --Hecktor 16:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should at the very least go to a page explaining *which* countries use région and linking to the respective articles on those countries' subdivisions, in my opinion. If such a page does not yet exist -- well, then let it redirect to this article for now. —Nightstallion (?) 17:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Région' redirecting to 'Region' (and not here) 

message: This is really screwed up. Why the hell on earth are the French administrative divisions not translated? Région?!! It should be moved to region. It is pretty obvious. Nearly all other country articles' regions translate as such. Otherwise, it is plain stupid. There is no logical rationale to keep it at "région". I had this discussion at some place else, and I see it as the product of a really arrogant outlook on the world. When I am in the French wiki, I see no such article "States des USA".. The lack of logic is astounding. This article should be moved to "Regions of France" per et al, it doesn't matter if they refer to an administrative structure or something else. The precision of them being/not being an administrative structure should be given in the intro. That way, the uninformed readers will know what they are up against. This is called COMMON SENSE. This attitude is really bad encyclopedic behavior, and this is exactly the reason why the France article has not even been able to reach GA status whereas Belgium, Bangladesh, Australia and Nepal have become Featured Articles. The France article is not any better than a cheap tourism brochure. Baristarim 12:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have asked for the page move at the admin board. Have translated almost all other article titles and infoboxes. Some may have slipped through. --Bob 01:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What an anomaly this would be 

message: Can someone clean up the maps at the bottom?  They seem to be placed incorrectly on the page.  I am not so hot at doing stuff like that, so if someone who is good at all the syntax could take care of it, that would be helpful...--Dmz5 03:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps 

message: To Do: Add Appropriate Stub Markings to the Sub Aricles of this page.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:France_geography_stubs
hi, 
i need to know about il-de-france for a school project i have most of my information but i need to know what regions surround it and something about it????help??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.29.67.53 (talk) 20:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stubs 

message: The General characteristics section compares the median land area of a French region to political divisions in various other countries. For the US, it's "about 25% of the median land area of an Alaskan county." One of many problems with that comparison is that Alaska has no counties.
Alaska's similar political unit is the borough, but an Alaskan borough is very much different from a county in other states, particularly in the range of sizes, which is enormous. Comparing anything to the median land area of an Alaskan borough is about as useful as comparing it to the median land area of all the countries on earth: nobody has a ready idea what a statement like that means, and it would take a huge amount of research to make it meaningful even to an Alaskan, much less anybody else. The whole point of making comparisons like this is to give the reader a quick idea of the scale of the thing by comparing it to something they're already familiar with, which this particular example fails miserably to do.
Several months ago, someone tried to change the comparison to "just a bit larger than the state of Vermont," which is a very much more useful example, but it was shot down immediately and replaced again with the absurd "Alaskan county" example. For one thing, the state of Vermont actually exists, while Alaskan counties don't. Second, most Americans already have at least some vague idea how big Vermont is (small for a state, but very big for a county), and anybody who doesn't can find out very easily by just looking at any map of the United States. Although the state of Maryland is even closer in area to the median French region than Vermont is, Maryland's highly irregular outline makes it much harder to visualize, whereas Vermont's near-trapezoidal outline makes it ideal for this purpose (and it even has a French name!).
For these reasons, I'm going to change it back to Vermont. If Rockybiggs (who shot down Vermont the last time) or anybody else feels compelled to resurrect the mythical Alaskan county again, I hope they will at least read this explanation before they do so and consider how unhelpful they're being, not to mention wrong.--Jim10701 (talk) 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alaska has no counties. 

message: What about Mayotte?  Is Mayotte a region in and of itself, just like the other Overseas Regions/Departments? Inkan1969 (talk) 05:55, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See fr:D%C3%A9partement_et_r%C3%A9gion_d%27outre-mer#Les_cinq_d.C3.A9partements_et_r.C3.A9gions_d.27outre-mer. Translate the first sentence and you will see that they are both regions and departements. --Ysangkok (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Mayotte?

message: I'm puzzled.  This says the regions were created in 1982.  Lower Normandy says the region of Normandy was divided in 1956.  Did the regions, or something like them, have any legal existence before 1982 or not?  —Tamfang (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: French Regions were legally created as "Circonscriptions d'action régionale" in 1960, renamed as "établissements publics régionaux" in 1972, became "territorial collectivities" in 1982 (loi Defferre) that went in force in 1986 (first regional council elections). The original design was a project in 1955-56, a mere organization of French administration with no real visibility for us commoners. So they have had legal existence as administrative divisions of France since 1960, as effective "territorial collectivities" since 1986. Hope this helps... --— J. F. B. (me´n parlar) 09:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  a question of dates 

message: Hi,
All the flags below are fake flags only created and added on Wikimedia Commons by SiBr4 by combinations of old flags. Those regions don't even have their defenitives names. 
You really should have a look on Nouvelle-Aquitaine. Please remove those fake flags.
File:Proposed design for a flag of Aquitaine-Limousin-Poitou-Charentes.svg|Flag of Aquitaine-Limousin-Poitou-Charentes
File:Proposed design for a flag of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes.svg|Flag of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
File:Proposed design for a flag of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté.svg|Flag of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
File:Proposed design for a flag of Grand Est.svg|Flag of Grand Est
File:Proposed design for a flag of Hauts-de-France.svg|Flag of Hauts-de-France
File:Proposed design for a flag of Languedoc-Roussillon-Midi-Pyrénées.svg|Flag of Languedoc-Roussillon-Midi-Pyrénées
File:Unofficial flag of Pays-de-la-Loire.svg|Flag of Pays de la Loire
File:Flag of Provence-Alpes-Cote dAzur.svg|Flag of Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Thank you. --Mattho69 (talk) 23:14, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: None of these images are used on this article. Kahastok talk 19:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: They were at the time this section was posted in June 2016, and were removed a few days afterwards. See also the original request for the files and subsequent discussion of their dubiousness on my Commons talk page. SiBr4 (talk) 23:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I got confused by the date.  Oops. Kahastok talk 07:50, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Those flags are fake 

message: Shouldn't we mention La Porte Ouverte Chrétienne and their gathering in Mulhouse as it kicked off the Grand Est cluster? --Pjacobi (talk) 19:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  La Porte Ouverte Chrétienne 

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message: I’d like to start a discussion on the use of English exonyms and translations in this article, especially in the table list of administrative region, which has some problematic or archaic English translations. While some of the regions/provinces of French do have specific English exonyms (for example Brittany, Normandy instead of Bretagne, Normandie), there are some literal English translations listed here that are never actually used in English. I.e., Franche-Comté is never referred to as “Free County” by historians or geographers, nor is Île-de-France referred to as “Island of France.” English exonyms should only be used when they are still in common parlance. See this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_exonyms.
I recommend the following modifications for the archaic, literal English translations. If we want to provide a literal translation in addition, that needs to be indicated with a note that they’re not in common usage.
Franche-Comté should be used instead of “Free County”
Grand Est should be used instead of “Great East”
Hauts-de-France should be used instead of “Upper France”
Île-de-France should be used instead of “Island of France”
Nouvelle-Aquitaine should be used instead of “New Aquitaine”
Pays de la Loire should be used instead of “Loire Countries”
Côte d’Azur should be used instead of “Azure Coast”
--Mole2 (talk) 18:04, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  English exonyms/literal translations problem 

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message: While this page has much information, it doesn't actually say what these regions do? Police? Schools? roads, public transport, courts, fire services?? i think explaining this would be very useful Foxdown (talk) 17:51, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do they do?