Talk:1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens

message: :This needs to be referenced before being put back into the article. --mav (reviews needed) 02:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographic and video record 

message: NASA’s Earth Observatory published a report on the occasion of the 35th anniversary of the eruption. All media included in the report and the report itself are in the public domain. --DarTar (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news 

message: Two questions about the people who died:
1) Four people died indirectly from the eruption: one in a plane crash caused by ash-induced poor visibility, one in a car crash also caused by poor visibility, and two from heart attacks caused by shoveling ash.   Should they be added to the death toll, or otherwise mentioned in the article? 
2) There's some belief that the official death toll of 57 is not accurate.  The Columbian and The Daily News Online mentions that two victims, Paul Hiatt and Dale Thayer, may have escaped the eruption and been found alive later, and remain listed only because the government can't completely prove they're the ones of those names who were reported missing.  The Columbian also mentions three missing people—Robert Ruffle, Steven Whitsett, and Mark Melanson—that Cowlitz County, Washington lists as possibly but not officially killed in the eruption.  Should these two differences of opinion be noted? 71.226.144.42 (talk) 04:17, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem so long as we word it along of the lines of that the death toll is not precisely know however.....and then add the information.--MONGO 06:45, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The four "ash victims" have been mentioned.  Not sure where I should put the info on the disputed death toll. 68.156.95.34 (talk) 07:51, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

text: OK, tell me how this sounds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_eruption_of_Mount_St._Helens#Disputed_death_toll  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.156.95.34 (talk) 09:51, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deaths 

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message: This is an excellent article, my congratulations to head editors!
At chapter 1980_eruption_of_Mount_St._Helens#Direct_results i found the fact that Mt. St. Helens' summit had been reduced by about 1280 feet (390 m). When comparing the volcanoe's pre-eruptive height of 9677' (2949.5 m) with the post-erutive one of 8363' (2549 m), the resulting difference is 1314' (400.5 m). Data are taken from Mount_St._Helens Maybe this could be added to the chapter with remark of divergent data concerning loss of height. I do not attend to modify this myself, as being neither familiar with this science, nor being a native speaker. Kind greetings to all! Stamnariophilus 08:08, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for reporting the different heights in the two articles. I have added a "contradictory" tag to this article to draw more attention to this. GeoWriter (talk) 16:00, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direct results: amount of reduction in height 

message: Would anybody object to this article being semi protected? It seems that just about all edits to this article are vandalism and reverting of vandalism. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:16, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi Protection 

message: The article states "The eruption was the most significant to occur in the contiguous 48 U.S. states since the much smaller 1915 eruption of Lassen Peak in California". But in that case, it was the most significant for a longer time. Indeed, as I cannot find evidence of larger eruptions, I am changing the text. KarlFrei (talk) 06:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, I just read the next sentence :-) Removed some vandalism anyway. KarlFrei (talk) 06:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Since 1915 or... 

message: Here is a table of victims sorted by their distance away from the eruption.  Feel free to include it in the article.  I found this geographic data while trying to determine where Robert Landsburg was when he took his photos that were published in National Geographic.
Sources:  
* http://www.tdn.com/app/helens/victims.php, which appears to be based on the same data as
* https://www.columbian.com/news/2010/may/18/interactive-map-mount-st-helens-eruption-victims/ (https://pcdn.columbian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Picture_14.png), which is expressly sourced from
* Richard B. Waitt/USGS
* Ray Blaisdell/Skamania County Sheriffs Office
* Cowlitz County Emergency Service Management
Miles from Eruption (46.201016,-122.187067)	Latitude 	Longitude  	Number of Victims	Names
3.4                                        	46.243375	-122.152176	1                	Bruce Faddis
3.6                                        	46.251922	-122.174149	2                	Bob Kasewater and Beverly Wetherald
3.7                                        	46.218675	-122.260666	3                	Day, Andy and Michael Karr
4.1                                        	46.256195	-122.158356	1                	Harry Truman
4.5                                        	46.221352	-122.275772	1                	Robert Landsburg
5.8                                        	46.234826	-122.299118	1                	James Fitzgerald
6.6                                        	46.29161 	-122.229855	1                	David Johnston
6.8                                        	46.241   	-122.316284	1                	Don Selby
6.9                                        	46.295112	-122.233887	2                	Jim and Kathleen Pluard
7.2                                        	46.253346	-122.318344	1                	Paul Schmidt
7.8                                        	46.313138	-122.200928	1                	Gerry Martin
8                                          	46.290842	-122.291565	1                	Reid Blackburn
8.7                                        	46.309344	-122.095184	3                	Don, Natalie and Rick Parker
8.8                                        	46.327839	-122.211227	2                	Bill and Jean Parker
9.2                                        	46.133567	-122.0224  	2                	Jim and Velvet Tute
9.2                                        	46.326416	-122.251053	1                	Christy Killian
9.4                                        	46.324994	-122.266159	1                	John Killian
9.9                                        	46.341587	-122.231827	1                	Robert Lynds
10.1                                       	46.299856	-122.343063	2                	Jolene and Arlene Edwards
10.7                                       	46.331632	-122.308731	4                	Barbara, Ronald, Michelle and Kevin Seibold
10.9                                       	46.286097	-122.378082	2                	Eleanor and Ed Murphy
11                                         	46.352015	-122.110977	1                	Allen Handy
11.3                                       	46.306023	-122.368469	2                	Harold and Joyce Kirkpatrick
11.3                                       	46.354384	-122.270279	2                	Wally Bowers and Tom Gadwa
12.1                                       	46.373338	-122.231827	2                	Shirley and Jerome Moore
12.2                                       	46.354858	-122.063599	1                	Ron Conner
12.7                                       	46.297959	-122.413788	2                	Leonty Skorohodoff and Jose Dias
13.2                                       	46.390864	-122.218781	2                	Terry Crall and Karen Varner
13.6                                       	46.302228	-122.430267	1                	Evlanty Sharipoff
14.9                                       	46.311715	-122.455673	1                	Klaus Zimmerman
15.3                                       	46.407438	-122.071838	1                	Clyde Croft
16                                         	46.315983	-122.477646	2                	Fred and Marjory Rollins
16.4                                       	46.370495	-122.428207	1                	Keith Moore
26.2                                       	46.351067	-122.691879	1                	Joel Colten
JonathanFreed (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victims 

message: Use this for a project if needed 2A00:23C7:8F99:DE01:F5D8:F8A1:7010:CAEB (talk) 17:36, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  school work for those 

message: I have no clue how many people got injured or what happend to  the  world.2A00:23C7:8F99:DE01:F5D8:F8A1:7010:CAEB (talk) 17:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed your question to lower case from your original capitals, as people fine them harder to read. The number of injured does not appear to have been definitively recorded. The USGS "Impact and aftermath" webpage just says "scores of injuries" with no details, while Bernstein et al. (1996) state that there were 12 injuries amongst survivors in the "damaged areas", while outside the "tree destruction zone" there were two deaths but all the survivors "escaped without serious injury". The USGS "Impact and aftermath" does not record any impacts outside the vicinity of the volcano. Significant ashfall was mostly confined to Washington state. Mikenorton (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  HOW MANY WERE INJURED OR HOW DID THIS AFFECT THE WORLD 

message: Did the ash fall really miraculously stop at the US-Canada border? Amazing. --24.76.103.169 (talk) 20:17, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No it did not just stop at the border, the map is specifically showing ash fall amounts within the United States, and not outside of it. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox  01:21, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: I think the first question in a reader's mind is usually going to be "When did Mount St. Helens erupt?" The current lead starts , which doesn't answer that question. I'd like to propose the following modification to the lead so that the first thing we say is the answer to that question: Thoughts? Schazjmd (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead suggestion 

message: The date of the main event is buried beneath large paragraphs poorly broken, and on a cursory examination it appears that the event took place in March, which of course is not the case. The lede needs to be rewritten to highlight the actual date.
2402:8100:3971:2308:F0EF:7577:4434:EB99 (talk) 12:40, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading Lede and Infobox 

message: is a bit complex, but its documentation is pretty clear that you can't say "$xxx today".  You have to state the correct year.  You also can't use the default index for government expenses in the billions.  The default value is for stuff like train tickets and doctor visits.  You have to use the US-GDP index for stuff like the cost of a natural disaster.  I'm not 100% sure I did the "refined estimate" correctly.  The problem is that the estimate itself is sourced, but the calculation itself was not.  It was just a link to some dodgy website.  The source doesn't explicitly say what year its estimate is from.  The paper was written in 1990, but it's talking about financial estimates of a disaster that happened in 1980.  Presumably, that means the estimate is in 1980 dollars, but it would be nice to have a source explicitly state this so we're not assuming anything.  Assumptions are often wrong. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inflation calculation 

message: Howard from NYC (talk) 11:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  26 megatons or 24 megatons?