Talk:Military dictatorship in Brazil

message: If it’s confirmed that thousands of indigenous people were killed due to negligence by the state, then why does the armed forces deny the findings? (reasons) 2607:FEA8:7A5E:C400:506:1FEC:21A0:6EE2 (talk) 21:39, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does the armed forces dispute the deaths of indigenous people? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOWCLOSE nonsense request.  Ixocactus (talk) 22:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Military dictatorship in Brazil →  – Standardization of extreme right-wing article titles such as United States and Islamic State vide: https://www.dw.com/en/is-brazil-turning-into-a-military-state/a-46339335 187.20.0.211 (talk) 12:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 24 February 2023 

message: The corresponding article in Portuguese is better sourced and complete. I could translate it, but considering this is a more important and sensible article, I would like to know your view/opinion if it's ok to do it or if it's better to leave the current article as it is. Torimem (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't have a problem with some parts being translated, but it's better to leave the body of the article unchanged. I say this since most of the sources used there are in Portuguese, while most of those used here are in English. Armando AZ (talk) 18:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:   187.20.0.211 (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation 

message: Are there any sources or scholars that support labeling the military dictatorship "far-right"? This category has been in the article for years, but there doesn't seem to be anything supporting it. -- 2804:248:FBB1:8600:9897:5307:A3AB:69FF (talk) 06:02, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The regime was dominated by the presence of the National Renewal Alliance, a far-right party directly descending from the Brazilian Integralist Action, a fascistic party. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 14:43, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The ARENA wasn't directly descended from the AIB, it was rather descended from the right-wing groups which supported the coup. There were Integralists in it (including Plínio Salgado himself), but they were a minority. 2804:248:FB19:1600:2C7F:2B4E:638F:320A (talk) 00:30, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: AIB was succeeded by the Popular Representation Party, which was one of the 3 parties that merged to form ARENA. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 01:19, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but that wasn't my point, again, it is true that Integralists were a part of the ARENA, but they were a minority, most members came from the National Democratic Union and the Social Democratic Party instead. 2804:248:FB19:1600:2C7F:2B4E:638F:320A (talk) 06:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Party is still sourced as far-right. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 15:50, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't, the source in question doesn't even mention the ARENA. 2804:248:FB19:1600:806C:D21B:10E4:BB18 (talk) 21:43, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

text: The article is about the dictatorship itself, not figures that were a part of it, a category has to be a defining characteristic of the topic. Also, any content that is unsupported can be removed, and so far no source supporting the category in question has been provided. -- 2804:248:FBD4:F600:F80F:3998:48D:D26D (talk) 23:42, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't article content, it's a category. The consensus from article edits and this talk page is clear that it ought to remain on the page. Cambial — foliar❧ 23:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: But a category is supposed to be verifiable and also defining of the article topic. Again, so far nothing supporting it has been presented. 2804:248:FB6A:C700:ECAF:3FFE:1068:443B (talk) 22:03, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Both useful guidelines, but not hard and fast rules. The operant policy is WP:CONSENSUS. The question to be addressed is whether it would help someone interested in the subject of Far-right politics in Brazil to read about this topic. The current consensus is that yes, it would. Cambial — foliar❧ 12:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far-right