Talk:Oscar Isaac

message: cmon Israeli thats unlikely  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.241.66 (talk) 04:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for His Ancetsry 

message: Personal Life section could be added. I don't know the specific rules for inclusion but I think it's weighed on notability and I think he has passed it in my view, as of late he's gotten quite "big". 
Also not just this section but expanding the others with "fluff". --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Lets try to avoid any gossip column material though. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life section  

message: It would make a lot of sense to add a filmography section for him.Barnacles14 (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we have the article List of roles and awards of Oscar Isaac, a filmography section isn’t needed here. FrB.TG (talk) 20:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The link to the list page is pretty easy to miss, though. — VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 21:45, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

text: It's astonishing there wasn't one, maybe some vandal deleted it. There wasn't even a link to the filmography article. I've added the section. Largoplazo (talk) 22:23, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it when I was expanding the article and moved it to Career section. Sections with only a referral link are generally seen as uninformative and lazy, especially in an article that is supposed to represent the best of Wikipedia. FrB.TG (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the Filmography section? 

message: Why not Guatemalan-American? He became a US citizen only in 2006. Ciro Lyndo (talk) 03:34, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Directly from the article . FrederalBacon (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

text: WP:ETHNICITY. He has lived in the U.S since he was an infant and the U.S is where he appears to primarily reside and where he is most notable as an actor. Furthermore, 'Guatemalan-American' often refers to ethnicity (i.e - an American of Guatemalan descent), which should not be used per guideline. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

text: Considering that he has been a US citizen only since 2006 and is vocal about his Latino heritage, it would be appropriate to mention in the lead sentence that he is "Guatemalan-born". As I said in one of my edit summaries in the article, his deep connection to his Latino roots is evident in his efforts to "latinize" the characters he plays (e.g. the origin of his character in Star Wars and the presence of a Spanish-speaking alter in Moon Knight). Critics also often note his efforts to defy Latino stereotypes in Hollywood. Given the significance of this aspect, it is more fitting to include this mention in the lead sentence rather than delaying it to the second paragraph. FrB.TG (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The question is not whether he's notable and he talks about his Guatemalan origin but whether particular note has been made related to his Guatemalan origin or whether it's come to play in his work. You've persuaded me that it has. Largoplazo (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

text: The mention in the start of the second paragraph is sufficient for that and looks like the initial attempt at a compromise about mentioning it in the lead at all. Having only lived 5 months in Guatemala, it is more an ethnicity identity rather than anything related to his birth location. He will have no memory of ever living there, just what was passed on by his parents. He is not notable for being from there and it really isn't part of why he is notable, just a part of his ethnic background, important to him, like it is to a lot of people. MOS:BIRTHPLACE and MOS:CONTEXTBIO does support mention in the lead if important but not in the opening paragraph so this FA conformed to that when promoted. The "-born" info in the opening sentence is jarringly against the MOS though.Also, as an attempt at compromise with the IP editors who want to add Guatemalan to the intro sentence, it is unlikely to solve anything. Based on my past experience there will be continued edits changing "Guatemalan-born American" to "Guatemalan-American" if that is put in the intro. Best to just leave it the way it was when promoted to FA. My interest is to see that level of quality retained. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose you are right about the unregistered users' persistent efforts to add "Guatemalan-American" in the lead sentence. I remember adding "Born in Guatemala" while expanding it for FA and later incorporating "Guatemalan-born" in the lead sentence as an attempt to stop the disruptive editing, but as one can see, it didn't lead anywhere. I have requested for a semi-protection of the page at WP:RPP. FrB.TG (talk) 19:15, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

text: “American actor” when it clearly says that he’s born Guatemalan. We all know what it should say. No him moving there when he was 5 months old or currently living there doesn’t make him an “American” actor. 45.229.41.98 (talk) 06:40, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it does. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:54, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Getting his American citizenship means he's American. I recommend you don't write things like "We all know" unless you think that people who have voiced opinions to the contrary all came here to write things, for some reason, that are the opposite of what they know. Simply declaring that everybody actually agrees with you isn't a useful way to argue when people have expressed views you disagree with. Largoplazo (talk) 09:44, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Oscar Isacc (or should I say Óscar Hernández?) is Guatemalan. To only list American in the principal description is so symbolic of the very American cultural imperialism that has played a big role in forcing him to eschew his birth name in favor of one which sounds white. "Guatemalan and American" would be an appropriate edit. Representation matters but Wikipedia's claimed neutrality only serves to bolster the loudest voices (i.e. Americanism) and silence those of minorities.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7C:88F8:0:911D:5628:F96:A9D4 (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know what the nationalities are of the people who have been participating in this discussion, or did you just decide to assume everybody's American? Besides that, if in every case where somebody was born in X but moved to Y as a child and became a citizen of Y, and where other circumstances mentioned above apply, the result is that we say in the lead that the person is Y and leave the X to be mentioned later or to be inferred based on birth, then this has nothing to do with American cultural imperialism. Largoplazo (talk) 00:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

text: His birth in Guatemala is mentioned in the lead - it isn't ignored. We don't classify him as a Guatemalan actor as he has done no acting in Guatemala. Everything he has done since the age of 5 months is in the US where he lives, works and grew up. His Guatemalan ancestry is about as relevant as his Cuban ancestry - important to him but not really relevant to why he is notable and where he did all his notable activities which is what drives the nationality context in the intro sentence per MOS:CONTEXTBIO. The name he uses is his choice, we don't try to second guess his reasons, and we respect his choice in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:17, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Typical Wikipedia gatekeeping attitude. Not sure why I expected anything to change. 2A02:C7C:88F8:0:911D:5628:F96:A9D4 (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: I keep editing Oscar Isaac's current portrait because I simply don't like it as much as I do with the old portrait. I know that's a stupid reason but that's pretty much my reason. I don't want to start any problems so far now, I'm going to leave the portrait alone for now. SpectrumGamer05 (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The latest image is a much more professional portrait image and a more recent representation of how he looks. Also it doesn't have a microphone obscuring part of his face. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Usually we stick with the most recent good quality picture while the subject is alive. After the subject has died, then we discuss what is the most appropriate picture for a historical representation. Peaceray (talk) 04:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotcha! SpectrumGamer05 (talk) 19:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

text: I recently just changed Isaac's portrait for a more modern look. Just pointing it out. SpectrumGamer05 (talk) 21:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Original portrait picture is better. No reason to change it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why I keep changing Oscar Isaac's portrait?