Talk:Martin Parr

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message: Tagged for cleanup. This article reads like something out of the back cover of a book, not an encyclopedia. Aep (talk) 02:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: I have added a link to a short video in which the artist talks about his practice as it has developed since the 1970s. It includes a variety of Parr's photographs. T.Broch (talk) 15:48, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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message: Did Badger actually write: It is difficult from a perspective of almost a quarter of a century to underestimate the significance of The Last Resort, either in British photography or Martin Parr's career? Surely he meant "overestimate". If he really did write "underestimate" (and if this got through Dewi Lewis's production process and into print), then this should be flagged with a giant, flashing "[sic]". Because if he really meant "underestimate", then the significance of the book would surely be infinitesimal, which strikes me as an extraordinarily harsh judgment. -- Hoary (talk) 00:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch Hoary. It certainly _does_ say that in my edition of the book (revised edition, 2009). And in the first sentence of the book too! There's plenty of discussion around about people making this too-common mistake, so it should be on the copy editor's mind to look out for. Lopifalko (talk) 10:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just telephoned Dewi Lewis and he says he remembers speaking to Gerry at the time about this. He said what Gerry's saying is that you can't grasp how insignificant this book was at the time 25 years ago, with Martin unknown, releasing it self published. He's speaking about at the time, rather than of now. It seems obvious, now that I know that, re-reading it. It could be useful for us to have It is difficult from a perspective of almost a quarter of a century to underestimate the significance [at the time] of The Last Resort, either in British photography or Martin Parr's career. Lopifalko (talk) 10:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, come on, it doesn't mean this. If this were indeed what he'd wanted to say, it might have been worded something like It is difficult from a perspective of almost a quarter of a century to underestimate the significance perceived at the time of The Last Resort, either in British photography or Martin Parr's career. And would this be true? I'm no expert, but it doesn't start to square with what I remember reading about the matter. Certainly it's hard to square with this comment from Arts Review in 1986: The Last Resort presents a harsh, cynically depressing picture ... Parr's bitter insight merely records the humiliating and regrettable surrender of many people in Mrs Thatcher's Britain to circumstances which they have unwittingly conspired to create and which are now thought to be beyond their control (quoted in Mellor, No such thing as society, p.131, n.81). My chum Mr Occam suggests that GB was confused and that nobody at DL noticed this. Well, I don't blame them: schedules were tight, people were overworked. ¶ My regards to DL (the man); I enjoy his books. Not least his book, Publishing Photography (Cornerhouse, 1992), which surely merits a second, extensively revised edition. -- Hoary (talk) 13:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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message: The company that produced the Smart car had Parr do most of the photography for a book titled smart. Reduce to the Max or perhaps just Reduce to the Max. If I understand correctly, this wasn't conventionally published but instead was given to buyers of the car, or made available, or both. There's evidence (possibly mistaken) of a Dutch-language edition. If this book has text, presumably it either exists in different versions or is multilingual. The illustrations of copies in abebooks.com show a variety of covers. (These illustrations aren't always reliable.) The book remains a bit of a mystery. Copies are cheap, but not yet so very cheap that I'm tempted to buy a copy merely to satisfy my curiosity. Any informed input? -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: Unsere Umgangsformen die Welt der guten Sitten von A - Z (, ) has photos by Erwitt and Parr. Many or just a few? I don't know. There are other editions of the book, which may or may not also have these photos. The book corresponds to Noblesse oblige: le nostre buone maniere dalla A alla Z (, ) (it's not clear which is a translation of the other; guesswork suggests that each version has the original of one writer's material and a translation of the other's); the Italian book may or may not also have the photos. Any informed input? -- Hoary (talk) 00:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsere Umgangsformen die Welt der guten Sitten von A - Z 

message: *Het L.P. Polhuis archief: een gewoon familie-album  The L.P. Polhuis archive: An ordinary family album. Rotterdam: Nederlands Fotomuseum, [2004]. .
turns up in searches for our man's ever-expanding œuvre, but I believe that he only contributes a preface. -- Hoary (talk) 03:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: "ever-expanding œuvre" indeed. I'm wondering if 'The Big Issue: On the Ring Road. The Big Issue 451, 20–26 August 2001' is merely a contribution of an article to a weekly national newspaper and thus has no place in the Publications section? In contrast to Tony Ray-Jones#Commissioned magazine work I don't propose we include this kind of work for Parr unless it is a significant contribution. -Lopifalko (talk)
: describes it as Special photo edition of The Big Issue, by Martin Parr. This is all I know. -- Hoary (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: Paris, New York, Shanghai: A book about the past, present, and (possibly) future capital of the world () is a photobook (or set of three photobooklets) by Hans Eijkelboom that has (or have) an introduction by Parr. -- Hoary (talk) 01:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Paris, New York, Shanghai

message: This great photograph of Martin Parr by Geoff Howard at  shows Parr in the context of a social situation with a Leica M3, it looks to be somewhere in Lancashire, or perhaps Hebden Bridge. This would be a valuable addition to this article, but do you suppose we could use it? As an example of how its use might be covered under fair use, the photograph of Ed Ruscha at  is justified through "Purpose of use in article (WP:NFCC#8) To support encyclopedic discussion of this work in this article. The illustration is specifically needed to support the following point(s): It shows Edward Ruscha in the context of his prime work (1960's Southern California)". WP:NFCC#8 says "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." ... added at 11:14, 23 April 2014‎ by Lopifalko
:This would be tricky. It shows MP during a period before his best known (and, I think, most celebrated) photography. This is obvious because it's a 35 mm camera; we know (or, ahem, I remember or misremember) that he used a Plaubel Makina for his earliest colour stuff. I remember that Val Williams has commented on the appearance/demeanour of Parr and Meadows in their early years: tall, southern, posh, ambitious, self-confident. If only we had a quotation mentioning his large badges or similar.... It is indeed a wonderful photo and I'd relish an excuse to add a smaller version thereof (though I fear that somebody would insist on cropping it).
:Meanwhile, the article has two photos of MP. Each is unflattering in its own way. Do we need both? In the second, MP seems aware of the photographer; and I infer that this is the way he prefers to be photographed, which in turn may tell us something about him. How about putting this photo in the place of the first? -- Hoary (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph of Martin Parr by Geoff Howard in 1974 

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