Template talk:Solar System table

message: It's silly to have the moon families of the Jovian system separated from the members of those families, especially when reorganizing would really help the flow of that section of the table. Unless anyone has a problem, I'm going to reorganize it. Alba 13:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganizing Jovian moons 

message: Take a look at what I just posted -- it is an attempt at a compromise here:
1) When it does not cause nearly empty lines in the middle of a list of moons, breaks are inserted to force group names to the left margin. 
2) The order of moons is preserved, but nbsp's and asterisks clarify grouplessness. 
3) Groupless moons are arranged with their nbsp's for good feng shui; I refer in particular to the Himalia group line. 
4) I couldn't do the same trick with Epimethius & Janus / Inner group / Outer group. Sorry.
: EDIT: But by making a subcategory noting the unverified nature of three shepherd moons, this problem was overcome!!
5) Because a incomplete line no longer signifies the end of a moon list for Jupiter and Saturn, I inserted blank lines there to visually separate the lists. Uranus and Neptune don't need this treatment because of the bolded Rings link at the end.
6) For visual continuity, I then reduced the Asteroid belt and the minor planets box from four lines to three by moving the break.
7) Purely for aesthetics, I spread the inner planets out a bit further to more completely fill the box.
The ultimate result is slightly bigger, but is much more visually pleasing and makes finding anything in the list (the search and find therbligs) quick and easy. I think it's more optimal -- give me your read. Alba 19:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, that's a lot better. The only change I made was to remove the blank lines at the end of the moons.... hang on, sudden realisation: the table should have horizontal border lines between rows - it does in IE, and should do in all browsers, but clearly it doesn't. I've put the blank lines until I figure out how to get this one to work. (In List of  Saskatchewan general elections, do the rows alternate grey and white for you? If so, might this be a possible way to indicate what belonsg with which planet?) Tompw 22:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ignore everything after the first sentence in the above. I've realised that the border line things is now deprcated HTML, hence it not working properly. Have a look to see what I've done. (Which is more in line with what I originally intended when I made this template). Tompw 22:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Superlative -- the horizontal border lines now show up in non-IE, and are much, much better than the blank lines I had inserted previously. I made one minor tweak -- the word "group" was hanging off the end of the Jovian list, so I shortened a space to fit better. I don't see any further problems. Alba 16:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new concept 

message: But let's see if we can improve further:
                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               	                                                                                                                                                               		
Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	PlanetsO = ring(s) • * = moon(s)                                                                                                                               	Mercury                                                                                                                                                        	Venus                                                                                                                                                          	Earth•*                                                                                                                                                        	Mars•*                                                                                                                                                         	                                                                                                                                                               		
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Asteroids(minor planets)                                                                                                                                       	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Asteroid moons · Meteoroids                              	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Asteroid moons · Meteoroids                              	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Asteroid moons · Meteoroids                              	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Asteroid moons · Meteoroids                              		
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Trans-Neptunians                                                                                                                                               	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     		
Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Trans-Neptunians                                                                                                                                               	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    		
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Comets                                                                                                                                                         	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           		
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Alba 23:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impressive. Most impressive. 

message: Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Planets☾ = moon(s)  ∅ = rings                                                                                                                                  	Mercury                                                                                                                                                        	Venus                                                                                                                                                          	Earth ☾                                                                                                                                                        	Mars ☾                                                                                                                                                         	
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Jupiter ☾  ∅                                                                                                                                                   	Saturn ☾  ∅                                                                                                                                                    	Uranus ☾  ∅                                                                                                                                                    	Neptune ☾ ∅                                                                                                                                                    	                                                                                                                                                               	
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Asteroids (minor planets)                                                                                                                                      	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Neptune Trojans · Asteroid moons · Meteoroids            	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Neptune Trojans · Asteroid moons · Meteoroids            	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Neptune Trojans · Asteroid moons · Meteoroids            	Groups and families: Vulcanoids · Near-Earth asteroids · Asteroid belt  Jupiter Trojans · Centaurs ·  Neptune Trojans · Asteroid moons · Meteoroids
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Trans-Neptunians                                                                                                                                               	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·                                                                                                     	Kuiper belt: Orcus · Ixion ·  · Varuna ·  ·  · Quaoar ·  ·
Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Trans-Neptunians                                                                                                                                               	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna                                                                                                                                    	Scattered disc:  ·  · Sedna
Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Trans-Neptunians                                                                                                                                               	See also the complete list of asteroids, and the meaning and pronunciation of asteroid names.                                                                  	See also the complete list of asteroids, and the meaning and pronunciation of asteroid names.                                                                  	See also the complete list of asteroids, and the meaning and pronunciation of asteroid names.                                                                  	See also the complete list of asteroids, and the meaning and pronunciation of asteroid names.
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Sun•Heliosphere HeliosheathHeliopauseHydrogen wall                                                                                                             	Small solar system bodies                                                                                                                                      	Comets                                                                                                                                                         	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud                                                                                           	Lists of periodic and non-periodic comets  · Damocloids · Oort cloud
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there we go -- Nbound
*I took the liberty of swapping the rings symbol for another one that may be less confusing. I hope that it shows up correctly, though! RandomCritic 10:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ring and moon symbols, continued

message: I think I'll just run this up the flagpole and see who tears it down. RandomCritic 19:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely no "tearing down" needed, but I have added a splash of colour. I have added the image from Template:Solar System to the bottom of this template - it's a very nice image, but it's not on the Solar System page! (The footer template was removed some time back because it duplicated the information in this larger template.) The image is also interactive, thanks to the new Wiki coding for interactive images. Check it out... I've left detailed information on how it is coded as comments inside the template, as well as a further explanation at Template talk:Solar System. (The other, minor change was to add a link to the Astronomy Portal at the bottom. It mirrors the rewording of the lower text on the footer template.) Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 20:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: All right then

message: The above classifies the solar system by some kind of mixed body and orbit classification. I prefer the distance-from-sun (dynamicist) organization:
* Sun
** Terrestrials:
*** Mercury, Venus, Earth ☽, Mars ☽
** Asteroids:
*** Ceres, Pallas, Vesta, Hygiea, classes: inner, main belt, outer, NEAs...
** Jovians:
*** Jupiter ☽, Saturn ☽, Uranus ☽, Neptune ☽
** Transneptunes:
*** TNO:s
**** Pluto, Eris, Varuna, Sedna, classes: KBO:s, plutinos, resonance objs, OCO:s, centaurs
*** Comets:
**** Halley, Hale-Bopp, Hyakutake, classes: damokloids, inner, neptune, OCC:s
Just saying is one thing - I'll prepare some kind of alternate navbar. Back L8R. Rursus 06:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS – when I'm ready, you'll not see anything special, except maybe some odd extra clickable text in some corner... Rursus 06:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Dynamicist'' Solar System navbar

message: Nemesis is a hypothetical hard-to see red dwarf star or brown dwarf, orbiting the Sun at a distance of about 50,000 to 100,000 AU (about 1-2 light years), somewhat beyond the Oort cloud...
but.. it sems that is reller ten hypothetical sense March 12, 2010)
and the Orbital Path of Sedna, Sedna shouldn't be there,” said Brown. “There's no way to put Sedna where it is. It never comes close enough to be affected by the Sun, but it never goes far enough away from the Sun to be affected by other stars.”
Brown postulates that perhaps a massive unseen object is responsible for Sedna’s mystifying orbit, its gravitational influence keeping Sedna fixed in that far-distant portion of space
sense the (Oort cloud is hypothetical) and (Nemesis is hypothetical to or sems to be maby more reller) 
how abowt puting Nemesis in the (Solar System table) to but also put the (hypothetical) weht it
can any 1 do it plz and thaks.
for the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.39.109 (talk) 03:54, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  There is no scientific consensus on the existence of a "Nemesis".  RandomCritic (talk) 13:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Interesting, but you missed this part: "The regularity of the timing compared with earlier calculations of orbital perturbation would seem to exclude the Nemesis hypothesis as a causal factor."  So: no Nemesis.  And a simple search of reviews of that article shows that most reviewers dismiss the apparent periodicity as an artifact of the authors' statistical method.  So no periodicity either. RandomCritic (talk) 13:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nemesis (star)