Talk:About You Now

message: Myspace is not a reliable source - see -  so stop quoting myspace! — *H¡ρρ¡ ¡ρρ¡ 03:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace as a reference 

message: The album title is still TBA.  Please cease changing it to "Better Without Mutya" as this is a wild rumor without any sort of credible source.  A quick Google search shows only 3 results, 2 pertaining to rumored singles and one not pertaining to anything at all.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.7.206.128 (talk) 05:53:21, August 19, 2007 (UTC) 
The album title is <I>NOT</I> EVERYTHING CHANGES.  STOP.  CHANGING.  IT. 68.7.204.156 23:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album title 

message: I am sorry for continuing the Better Without Mutya thing. I didn't start it but thought it was absolutely hilarious and it should be the title cause they are Better Without Mutya.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.184.181.102 (talk) 08:22, August 23, 2007 (UTC) 
:That is against Wikipedia policy.  Please stop! — *Hippi ippi 12:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry 

message: It says here that it is released on October 1, when on their official website it says released on 24th September. So which is correct?
www.sugababes.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.65.172 (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: Hi everybody, I just want to make an announcement, I remove from the section of the charts of Miranda's cover the "Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100", because the song is now at the Top 100 or Billboard Hot 100, so that's makes the song to not be anymore on the other chart. Thanks for your comprehension (Charlie White (talk) 22:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miranda Chart's section 

message: Let's get it right. Lip sync is diff from live performance and it is a fact that all performers during the Macy parade lip sync their songs. So leave it. It is to differentiate how they sing.Jeneral28 (talk) 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Macy's article says nothing of HER lip syncing and there is no source to show she did, therefore this article shouldn't say something that can't be confirmed. Second even if she did lip sync it isn't notable, do you see any of the Miley Cyrus concert articles mention her lip syncing? No. Frehley 22:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Exactly YOU said all the performers lip synced, the Macy's article says MOST not all, therefore we can't confirm that Cosgrove lip synced. Note: I brought up the Miley thing to show to you that mentioning lip syncing isn't a notable fact to mention in articles. Frehley 23:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

text: First of all i have not googled ANYTHING, Second i can guarantee if this was one of Jennette McCurdy's songs you wouldn't be rushing to add that she lip synced, in fact you would probably be removing that info. Frehley 23:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

text: How is this even an issue? It's not the least bit uncommon that such performances are lip-synched, is it? The way I see it, the current wording "Cosgrove gave a lip sync performance of the song" is problematic because it stresses that fact, but offers nothing to verify it. Jeneral, you say you researched it, but offer nothing to proof it. You attempt to conclude this from information given in the Macy article is incorrect synthesis of sources/original research, and is not enough to comply with one of our most important policies, Verifiability.Also, I'm not quite sure what your boon is with using search engines to verify facts. You haven't offered any concrete evidence of your opinion at all, and "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" (WP:V). Wikipedia prefers listing verifiable facts, so unless you can offer anything to back this rather non-neutral bit, it has to go. Amalthea 13:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Eye-witness reports will still need to be carried by a reliable source. Personally I don't even doubt that it's true. It's true for almost any performer with an intrinsic dance routine. Britney Spears lip-synchs most of her performances, I seem to recall. Nonetheless, I don't see that it matters here in the first place. The source is only there to show that she did perform at that parade, I'd say (and you're right that the source is not the best). Furthermore, I believe "perform" is the most neutral way to go here. Obviously, claiming that "she sang at the parade" would be just as contested and unsourced.Which article about lip synching are you referring to? Lip sync doesn't have anything about e.g. Phantom of the Opera. In any case, "search engine work" as I mentioned above is the way to provide references to an article, to make it verifiable. Imagine if we allowed eye witness reports by editors to support any fact in any article, without reliable sourcing to back it up? How useful would this place be after a month?No, if you want this fact in the article, I strongly suggest that you a) show why this is relevant, which I still don't see, and b) do some search engine work yourself.Regards, Amalthea 08:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Fascinating. And the fact that you, 147.188.244.60 are only sitting once computer away from 147.188.244.59 is a coincidence? Please have a look at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry and, once your block expired, we can try and have a constructive conversation about this. The way you're going about now is guaranteed to not change anything. Amalthea 09:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Performance

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