Talk:Durham University/Archive 1

message: Doubtless someone will tell me that my correction is wrong, and that 'Fundamenta eius montibus sanctis' is the correct motto for the University of Durham - that being what the University Calendar says it is.  However, I'm pretty confident the University Calendar is wrong - this is a photograph of the arms on the University's original 1832 grant of arms, and 'super' is clearly in there.  I'll let the University know their mistake... TSP 18:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just had a reply from the University; the motto on their web page had indeed been inadvertently altered.  The current Wikipedia page is correct, and the University's own page is going to be altered to match it. TSP 16:47, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: I've just removed this line:
*Christopher Betts (Hild Bede), Special Olympian Great Britain
from the Notable Alumni.  Mr Betts doesn't currently have a Wikipedia page establishing his notability, and I can't find any relevant Google hits for him.  This article says "Special Olympics, founded in 1968, holds more than 20,000 competitions around the world each year for its 1.5 million athletes."  Being one of 1.5 million competitors is impressive; but probably not notable by Wikipedia standards.  It's possible that Mr Betts is more than just one of these 1.5 million; but if so, this doesn't seem to have been established.  Secondly, is he actually an alumnus?  There's a Mr C J Betts who's a current Hild Bede student - is this the same person?  If so - while a Notable Current Students list might be called for - he doesn't seem eligible for this one.  TSP 12:05, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Notable Alumni entry 

message: The following appeared on my talk page:
:"Please stop deleting content which stayed in this article for two years. If you have your own opinion, there is an option to discuss it. When other readers agree, we could modify it. 78.105.139.126 (talk) 12:28, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of puffery 

message: If you don't agree that the national rankings derived from the world rankings should be displayed, perhaps you would like to take the discussion to the infobox discussion page, so that it is applied consistently across all UK universities, rather than just on the couple you choose to edit. To suggest that they are any more volatile than the world rankings they are derived from is quite frankly bizarre. - Scribble Monkey (talk) 16:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of a suggested discussion, I am reinserting the previously removed and properly sourced rankings - Scribble Monkey (talk) 10:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree that each article has a degree of autonomy, but there are agreed standards and templates for structuring university articles. Your main objection appears to be with the Infobox UK university rankings template including national rankings derived from world rankings, which would apply to all articles using the template. You might be interested in the Removal of national subrankings of world rankings discussion on the template's talk page. I would suggest that you might like to resurrect the discussion, as it is now quite dated. However, you might like to register as a user rather than continue to edit as an anonymous IP address, to aid communication. I have found it particularly difficult to engage you in discussion so far. - Scribble Monkey (talk) 10:13, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your suggestions Scribble Monkey. I would try to restart discussion on the rankings page.86.15.18.96 (talk) 16:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rankings 

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message: The current sections are "Origins", "19th Century", "20th Century", "Queen's Campus, Stockton " and "2005 to present". This leaves a hole in 2000 - 2005 and doesn't particularly reflect the major historical events attacking the University. I would suggest a more logical arrangement, reflecting Durham's history, would be: "The Church University: 1832 - 1908", "The Federal University: 1908 - 1963", "The Modern University: 1963 - 1999", "Development in Stockton: 1992 - 1999" and "21st Century". This has a logical structure based on the constitutional history of the University and gives space for Stockton's history to be told without shunting it forever into a siding. What do folks think? Robminchin (talk) 02:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I also noticed that the "main article" at History of Durham University is essentially the same length and had poetry much the same content as the history section of this article. As it is linked as the main article, I think it would be justifiable to move some of the material from this page to that one. Otherwise, we may as well delete the "main article" and just have the history on here. Thoughts? Robminchin (talk) 03:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've worked on expanding the 'history of...' article, so it now contains substantially more than on this page. I've also rearranged the page as I suggested above, as nobody object. Robminchin (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Organisation of History

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message: There are currently a couple of sentences explaining that Durham's colleges are listed bodies, as given in the Education (Listed Bodies) (England) Order 2013. While it's true that the colleges are indeed listed bodies, I feel the justification currently given is misleading and could be clarified.
The "Explanatory Note" of the Order (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/2993/pdfs/uksi_20132993_en.pdf) states two ways a body can be a "listed body":
(a) if it provides "a course which is in preparation for a degree to be granted by such a recognised body and is approved by or on behalf of that body",
or
(b) if it is "a constituent college, school, hall or other institution of a university which is such a recognised body".
In the case of Durham's colleges (and presumably those of Cambridge and Oxford as well), the reason they're listed bodies is that they satisfy (b), rather than (a). However, the current wording on the page is more along the lines of (a): "being able to offer courses leading to a degree of a recognised body". Can the wording be changed to reflect (b) rather than (a)? Something like this might do:
"Durham operates a collegiate structure similar to that of the University of Oxford and the University of Cambridge, in that all the colleges at Durham, being constituent colleges of a 'recognised body', are 'listed bodies' in the Education (Listed Bodies) (England) Order 2013 made under the Education Reform Act, 1988. The 'recognised body' in this case is Durham University."
The sentence beginning "This means ..." could then be removed.
Paulbuckingham (talk) 00:24, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to listed bodies 

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message: There is a discussion on the Doxbridge article regarding whether the topic of that article should be the word Doxbridge and its usage or an informal group of universities represented by the term. I am placing this notice on the talk pages of the relevant university articles to solicit the input of the editors of those articles on this matter. Robminchin (talk) 19:36, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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