Talk:Galilee

message: If you're going to dispute the neutrality of an article, surely you should also put something in the Talk page about what you think is not NPOV, right?
Fair point.  My objection is to the history section, on several counts:
* its astonishing failure to mention or even allude to its 1400 years of Islamic history.
* the demographically absurd ordering of the populations (when even now Jews remain a minority in most of Galilee) in:
: During the 20th century, the Galilee was inhabited by Haredi Jews ("Ke'ilot Kodesh", mainly in Safed), Zionist settlers, Arabs, Druzes and other minorities such Cherksians.
* the extraordinarily POV description of Israel's brutal war against Lebanon.
- Mustafaa 21:46, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. - Mustafaa 23:32, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed neutrality

message: When you say Galil you mean "the center" and not "circuit". It is the name of the area from the time of Moses.
Also - "the brutal war against lebanon....."... please spare us the ugly politics and munipulations. This war was due to a never ending bombings from Lebanon toward the Galilee. We here in the Galilee live a very modest and quite life - arabs and jews have very good relationships. Try to avoid to ruin that. -- 18:30, 16 December 2005‎ 85.65.126.159
=== Galil in Hebrew means a lot of things... ===
Excuse me for intruding...  I will not argue about your preference for the meaning 'center', but in my Biblical Hebrew lexicon (Brown, Driver & Briggs) the word can mean 'turning', 'folding', 'revolving', 'cylinder', 'rod', 'circuit', or - possibly the most relevant here historically - 'district'.  Isaiah 8:23 refers to this region as גְּלִיל - הַגּוׁיִם   Galîl Haggoyim 'the District of the Nations' because in Isaiah's time (as in various others) a mixture of nationalities were known to live there. DThrax 04:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galil in Hebrew means "center" 

message: Excuse me for intruding...  I will not argue about your preference for the meaning 'center', but in my Biblical Hebrew lexicon (Brown, Driver & Briggs) the word can mean 'turning', 'folding', 'revolving', 'cylinder', 'rod', 'circuit', or - possibly the most relevant here historically - 'district'.  Isaiah 8:23 refers to this region as גְּלִיל - הַגּוׁיִם   Galîl Haggoyim 'the District of the Nations' because in Isaiah's time (as in various others) a mixture of nationalities were known to live there. DThrax 04:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galil in Hebrew means a lot of things... 

message: Can we please have a map for this article?  Badagnani 22:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the home made map: (Map of galilee en.png) as it shows Golan within Israels borders. It also doesn't have a source.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 17:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: I've just expanded the article with some corrections plus new (current) material, based on being a resident of the Western Galilee since 1984 and having experienced the current warfare firsthand (as a civilian) during the second half of July and from interim locations south of the Galilee since then. My material comes from reportage in the broadcast and electronic media and is as NPOV as I could manage. I've written this notation here on the article's Talk page in lieu of being able to provide citations. -- Deborahjay 18:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Galilee in 2000-2006 

message: In Isaiah (8:23), the region is referred to as "the District of the Nations" (גְּלִיל - הַגּוׁיִם; lit:G’lîl Haggôyim)
I do not speak Hebrew, but is G’lîl Haggôyim could be translated also to land of goy's = land of non-Jewish. In this case Galilea most be seen as land of not-Jewish? I am just curious. Abdulka (talk) 13:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is how the Gospel of Matthew (4:15) interprets it: quoting Isaiah presumably from the Septuagint, the evangelist refers to (roughly transliterating the Greek) "Galilaia ton ethnon", which is usually rendered in English "Galilee of the Gentiles" - "ethnon" could mean "nations" but in context usually does mean "gentiles". seglea (talk) 22:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In Biblical Hebrew, goy simply means nation. In Genesis god promises Abraham "ve'a'asekha legoy gadol" meaning "I will turn you into a large nation". Goy in the meaning of non-Jew is much more modern. TFighterPilot (talk) 14:48, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't find a connection of Galilee with Galatians of Turkey, who were a Celtic tribe and it's common for Celts in parts of Europe to be called Galls like Gaul for France, Galicia (Gallego) in Portugal/Spain and Galicia in Poland. 12.218.47.124 (talk) 23:03, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Galatia was settled c. 279 BCE by Celtic tribes who were moving from the Balkans to Anatolia. Galilee as a place-name first appears in a text typically dated to the 8th century BCE. They are unlikely to be cognate terms. Dimadick (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galilea = Land of "goys"? 

message: It seems that both forms, "Galilee" and "the Galilee" are valid descriptions. It may also be that one form is used (or preferred) in some contexts, and the other form used (or preferred) in other contexts. If so, may I suggest:
* we try to identify these name-and-context preferences
* encapsulate them in some text in the body of the article, possibly section "Etymology"
* article lead mentions both names briefly
(Or is the choice at any time or place or context really just quasi-random?)
Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:54, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: 2023

message: This is a place, a location. There is no better way to introduce you to that place than by telling where it is.  This article needs a map at the top.  I see that fine but old map down the article, but it's age makes it unclear in terms of telling the reader where Galilee was.  The BEST way would be a modern map with Galilee drawn in boldly, but use what you got.
Loved the article, by the way.  I thought Galilee was a town!  Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk) 23:14, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A brief statement "Freely distributed" is not the same as a formal license that would allow re-use under terms acceptable to Wikipedia.  The file would need to be uploaded to be used in an article here, but if it was not uploaded with a suitable specified license, it would be quickly deleted... AnonMoos (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs a map 

message: A while back I complained about the lack of a map at the very beginning of this article. It's a place, and the first question I have about a place is "where is it?". 
I found a fairly good map later, but now I don't know how to paste it into the article. The map is the first figure on the web page...
http://www.bible-history.com/maps/galilee_north_palestine.html
and it says "freely distributed", so no one minds if it is used. The problem with the graphic is that it has no modern reference points except the Sea of Galilee, so someone looking to travel to modern Galilee would be confused, though an ancient historian would be tickled. 
Would someone tell me how to paste a graphic in, or where the Wiki help info for graphics is located? I'm eventually going to find a really good graphic, and I want to know how to handle it.  I tried to figure it out from the pics already specified, but no luck. Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk) 04:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A brief statement "Freely distributed" is not the same as a formal license that would allow re-use under terms acceptable to Wikipedia.  The file would need to be uploaded to be used in an article here, but if it was not uploaded with a suitable specified license, it would be quickly deleted... AnonMoos (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  insert a graphic? 

message: This is a historical fact (ancient, as well as medieval Crusader use) and has nothing to do with modern borders or any kind of irredentism, of which there is none in this case as far as I know. I miss the Litani River on the map, and maybe a distinction between historical regions and modern state borders (and all states in the region are, in their current borders, colonial-era creations). Arminden (talk) 17:36, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Galilee: up to Litani River 

message: Almost all of the Israeli Druze live in the Galilee.  This is unlike other Arab groups, but somewhat like the Bedouins, and this is why they should be mentioned the demography section.  Right now they are no where in the article! I haven't looked for details and numbers, but suppose it's best to have a sentence breakdown the Arab pop. Into groups clearly. trespassers william (talk) 01:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That proposal's fine. It's just the way it's written made it seem like the Druze are a majority group among the Galilee Arabs. We can have the breakdown and then a note about how the Druze live almost exclusively in the Galilee. The Arab Christian population is similar, although they also have a presence in places like Jaffa, Haifa, Ramla and Lod. --Al Ameer (talk) 03:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Druze 

message: You are violating my rights by copying my wiki remove it or I will. JohnnyDab31353 (talk) 02:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright 

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message: Please change "centered around" to "located around."
"Centered around" is improper grammar.  "Centered" should be followed by "on" or "upon."
Since multiple villages cannot be located "on" or "upon" the Sea of Galilee, the correct phrase is "located around."
Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but my mother was an English teacher (among other things) and before I was even ten years old she drummed it into my head that "centered around" is wholly improper grammar.
Thank you.
Anarchistbookshop (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a request is very unusual for an Anarchist. ;-) Tri@l 09:25, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 June 2019 

message: Please remove the vertical pipe and space add the end of the link to :Category:Historical regions (currently the last line on the source page) so that the page is sorted correctly within that category.  Thank you. Quesotiotyo (talk) 04:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Melmann 14:24, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 August 2019 

message: There is a section in the article that does not have a proper grammatical structure. The following is the change needed for correction: In the section 'Cuisine': 1st paragraph, 5th sentence, Change "In the eastern part of the Galilee, freshwater fish as much as meat (especially the tilapia that lives in the Sea of Galilee, Jordan river, and other streams in the region), fish filled with thyme and grilled with rosemary to flavor, or stuffed with oregano leaves, then topped with parsley and served with lemon to squash." TO "In the eastern part of the Galilee, there is freshwater fish as much as meat (especially the tilapia that lives in the Sea of Galilee, Jordan river, and other streams in the region), including fish filled with thyme and grilled with rosemary to flavor, or stuffed with oregano leaves, then topped with parsley and served with lemon to squash." Goman1 (talk) 22:44, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: --Tri@l 15:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 August 2019 

message: We have to keep that in mind. Subregions also massively overlap and are poorly defined. Therefore, careful with unqualified use of wikilinks. Arminden (talk) 07:46, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition varies historically 

message: So... where is this in this article? 2001:1C02:1910:D500:355E:61C:23C1:237E (talk) 11:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Judaization of the Galilee]] 

message: The article states "After the death of Herod the Great that same year, the Roman emperor Augustus appointed his son Herod Antipas as tetrarch of Galilee," but is Herod Antipas the son of Augustus? NikolaihTELNikolaih/guestbook 21:24, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Herod Antipas was the son of Herod the Great.  Some languages have different reflexive vs. non-reflexive pronoun forms which would make the reference clear... AnonMoos (talk) 03:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Herod Antipas the son of Augustus? 

message: It should be noted that Galilee is in occupied Palestine. 77.69.136.115 (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. That will definitely be a contentious change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

text: 77.69.136.115 -- It was on the Israeli side of the 1949-1967 armistice lines, and even in the 1947 UN partition plan, there was a Galilee "quadripoint", and the Jewish state would have gotten the east and west sectors, while the Arab state would have gotten the north and south sectors.  Saying ALL of the Galilee is "occupied Palestine" basically means that you want to wipe Israel off the map, and has very little to do with actual history since 1947... AnonMoos (talk) 16:49, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @AnonMoos: Hmm, AGF no? Maybe they just made a mistake. No real need to weigh in on an already answered extended confirmed edit request just to lay on the hyperbole/vitriol. It is possible to explain things and be polite. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a definite need to supplement ScottishFinnishRadish's reply, which did not offer any explanation or facts as to why the requested edit was factually wrong (but just talked about general process).  It's possible that 77.69.136.115 was ignorant, but it's difficult to believer that he was innocently ignorant, since he used a sloganeering propaganda phrase, one of whose purposes is to blur the distinctions between 1947 vs. 1949 vs. 1967.  If 77.69.136.115 wanted everything to be discussed with exquisite decorum and Marquess of Queensberry tea-drinking with pinkie finger raised, then he should not have tried to get a sloganeering propaganda phrase added to the article (not in a quote, but in Wikipedia's own voice).  I was just pointing out the implications, not trying to be rude... AnonMoos (talk) 06:20, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't assume they necessarily meant all of Galilee. I didn't have much time to check it when I saw it, but I noted that based on the 1967 borders the claim seemed bogus. Maybe, as you say, they were thinking 1947. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 January 2023 

message: By the end of the “borders and geography” section, change the phrase “Ramot Naftali mountains” to “Naftali Heights” as a more accurate translation to the local Israeli name of the region, and redirect the link in “[Ramot Naftali]” to the “Naftali Mountains” page (which is about the geographic region instead of the “Ramot Naftali” page, which is about a moshav there by the same name - “ramot” in Hebrew means heights or mountains). 2A0D:6FC2:61B0:7800:D961:A73F:A437:F2CD (talk) 10:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "Mountains" is used in the article about the mountains, and this article is consistent with that.  small jars tc 11:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 February 2023 

message: You are writing B.C.E. and C.E. Youleave Christ our Lord out of it when he's very much a part of it ALL. B.C. (Before CHRIST). A.D. After his death. You know, the one he died for ALL on tne cross. Please correct or I'll be looking to a Christian version of Wikipedia. You're suppose to give accurate info so just thought I'd pass the correct information on to you. 2600:1700:5EB1:1DE0:32C:71EF:1413:4429 (talk) 16:58, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Check out MOS:BCE for our guidelines - both Anno Domino and Common Era conventions are considered "correct" for Wikipedia. If you want to find a Christian Wikipedia, go for it. Cannolis (talk) 18:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 August 2023 

message: In the third paragraph of the 'Roman Period' section we have the following line:
'After the death of Herod the Great that same year, the Roman emperor Augustus appointed his son Herod Antipas as tetrarch of Galilee, which remained a Roman client state.'
This reads as if Herod Antipas was Augustus' son. I suggest that the line be reworded as follows:
'After the death of Herod the Great that same year, his son Herod Antipas was appointed as tetrarch of Galilee by the Roman emperor Augustus. Galilee remained a Roman client State, and Antipas....' Buuvfohjiqdjv (talk) 13:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Tri@l (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 October 2023