Talk:Gebre Meskel Lalibela

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message: I think this page should include something on when Gebra Maskal Lalibela's reign was. There is only one date in the text (1210) and that may not be from his reign.
Also the names should be re-investigated as the Europeans seemed to struggle with them i.e Ngoni became Nguni which makes it hard to connect the Amangoni people to the whole of this new Nguni history. The name BEGWENA is derived from Ba-ko-ena meaning they are with him/her in Sotho. Although they are far apart the peoples of the african continent have a language that is similar if you are well versed in it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.21.176.70 (talk) 12:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
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message: On march 19 2017 21:12   Revionism took place on this page that deviates from the accepted norm. 
Here is the diff: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lalibela_(Emperor_of_Ethiopia)&diff=771150046&oldid=771135271
There are no credible sources provided that links the Churches of Lalibela to the Late Aksumite period. 2A02:A466:1107:1:8561:3D64:FBBE:D5BD (talk) 08:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed that it is a strange edit. The editor Varavour added some dates (birth and reign), and the reader is left with the impression that the following citation would verify that date. I was able to find an online copy of the Taddesse Tamrat book at Open Library (and updated the citation), and the dates it uses do not match up with those Varavour put into the article. Maybe  can come see this note here and comment about where they got those dates. Platonk (talk) 10:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I guess  might hint his reign equivalent to 1181–1121 which states "lasted forty years, spanning the end of the 12th century and the opening decades of the 13th." Another speculation is   here. It details around his DOB and also Wikipedia's now existed DOB, only differing by year (which states he was born 1250s and died 1225). I don't know how to judge these speculation but you can review from Google, especially from scholar sources for verification. Thanks! The Supermind (talk) 06:37, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revisionism in this page 

message: Regarding my edits, here are sources off the top of my head for the more recent scholarship on the possible late Aksumite origin of the Lalibela churches:
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Hope this is helpful, and my apologies for having not included them previously.--Varavour (talk) 19:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Late Aksumite origins of the Lalibela complex

message: I found an online version of the Taddesse Tamrat book and updated the citation so readers can find it at Open Library. I tried to verify the page numbers that were already mentioned in this article, but I was unable to decipher it well enough. (History is not my forté.) Lalibela is mentioned in the index with all the page numbers, and I was able to verify some of the content concepts, but updating the page numbers was beyond my ability today. If anyone else would like to tackle it, please do. Platonk (talk) 10:16, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops. The ISBN alone was insufficient to find it at Open Library (there must be two entries in OL with the same ISBN). Added the OL number to the citation. Platonk (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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message: The original statement in  section says that "...which his mother took as a sign of his future reign as Emperor of Ethiopia." I cannot understand whether emperorship is permitted in Zagwe dynasty, indeed it is a kingdom. Please share decisive comments regarding this issue here. Regards!
...And I founded that Britannica gives his title and all Zagwe's monarchs "emperor".  The Supermind (talk) 16:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he king or emperor? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
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:Lalibela (Emperor of Ethiopia) →  – I've so confused whether the title been Emperor or King, but some editors applied for king of Zagwe dynasty because the title "Emperor" officially began since Solomonic dynasty in 1270. Therefore we can say Yekuno Amlak as Emperor. The Supermind (talk) 16:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: WikiProject Ethiopia has been notified of this discussion. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 March 2022 

message: *No support Come with the reliable sources that support your statements. You yourself presented an reliable source that say Emperor regarding Zagwe/Lalibela. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 17:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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*   comment: Brittanica says Lalibela is an emperor. 
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:Note: WikiProject Ethiopia has been notified of this discussion. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources that disagree with the term Emperor/Emperor of Ethiopia for Zagwe dynasty or Lalibela  

message: Lalibela history 196.188.33.72 (talk) 17:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History