Talk:Eminem/Archive 4

message: One of the users gave this URL so this would be ok for the family section...
[] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elif4ziggan (talk • contribs) 08:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

message: I thought, he was from Detroit! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.183.213.205 (talk) 10:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He is not from Flint.  Someone vandalized the page.  Disappointingly, the vandalism (which occurred on March 24) survived nearly three weeks - I just corrected it now. Funnyhat 17:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flint, Michigan? 

message: Whats the Bullshhh about eminem:
*Eminem owns a house in Rapid City, Mi on Torch Lake. Which is the third most beautiful lake in the world.(other people might judge the lake to be ugly you know!!) 
*In the novel Be More Chill, Eminem is said to have died in a street-hockey accident.(??) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elif4ziggan (talk • contribs) 08:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section 

message: WHY DOES THE PICTURE KEEP DISSAPPEARING!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elif4ziggan (talk • contribs) 09:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok....................HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE PICTURE GO !?!?!? 

message: I've noticed that someone has been cruising through many rappers wikipedia pages and adding their position on About.com's 50 greatest rappers list. This shouldn't be listed because it is not a major website or anything like that. If you're going to put his position on that list, then you should put his position on MTV's 10 greatest MC's, MTV 2's 22 Greatest MC's, VH1's 50 greatest Rappers, and Rolling Stone's list of Immortals. I can understand that because those are all huge publications but About.com is not ligit or important enough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.219.110.74 (talk) 20:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About.com 

message: Please provide a more neutral point of view or give a source . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.240.137.140 (talk) 23:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of other artists : undisputed winner? 

message: Shouldnt Ken Kannif be added??Elif4ziggan 06:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other names/Nick names 

message: Early life section would be good.Elif4ziggan 06:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add an early life section?? 

message: read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.240.137.140 (talk) 23:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of other artists : undisputed winner? 

message: Has anyone got any information on his 5th studio album?Hurricaneshady 07:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Album 

message: as we he rocks us the streets and the citys. but is he the best rocker out of them all 50 dr.dreetc. we'l let u gay people decide —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.82.183.148 (talk) 12:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he the gretest of all time (eminem) 

message: []
"Eminem is the new (Elvis Presley' ) because, number one, he has the respect for black music that Elvis had. I think he's courteous and sympathetic to black music and, unfortunately, he's more sympathetic to black music than many black artists themselves."Hurricaneshady 10:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of Eminem by [[Chuck D]] of Public Enemy(in quotes) 

message: Shouldnt we convert it into a "personal life" section cause it has the stuff about mariah and britanny.Hurricaneshady 07:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remarriage and second divorce 

message: Why not include an active link for GLAAD's page with lyrics from The Marshall Mathers LP?  The link is <http://www.glaad.org/publications/resource_doc_detail.php?id=2890&>.
AmateurMe 15:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of homophobia 

message: Can anybody find a this kind of thing if yes it would be great —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4frans4 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem's child photo 

message: Its Horribily blurry and there are many free images on the net.CHANGE IT PLEASE.Hurricaneshady 04:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somebody Please Upload a better picture 

message: Why is there no information about this clothing line Shady Ltd http://www.shadyltd.com/.--Peterm1991 20:45, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shady Ltd 

message: can we post a pic of em when he was a child—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4frans4 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  childhood pic 

message: No nate dogg Xzibit
How many tracks he have done with nate dogg
and how many tracks he have done with stat quo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4frans4 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  asociated acts 

message: His sub genre is detroit rap.
--Frans Adiesha 13:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  genre 

message: um shouldn't the incident with guerrara the bouncer (mentioned in sing for the moment) and the lawsuit with his mother (mentioned in without me) be mentioned. Both names (guerara and debbie mathers) direct here.--65.97.139.67 14:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  two events in ems life 

message: Can we post this pic please--Frans Adiesha 08:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  em when he was a kid (rare) 

message: I know you would love it if eminem had a diamond (50x platinum) release, but he doesnt, its  10x. And its spelled 'platinum', not 'planitum' 151.113.255.101 09:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIAA certification for Marshal Mathers LP 

message: Please read guidelines and discussions before removing fansite links
"We don't provide "links to everything". That's silly. We have a guideline for meritable linking, which is this. If you have constructive comments, feel free to suggest them. Saying no linking to fasites is weird and thoughtless, and has never been the guideline. I'd encourage you to start thinking about building a better encyclopedia, not frankly bizarre black and white ideas that have nothing to do with user value and encyclopedic merit. 2005 21:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The site you want to link includes a large amount of copyright material, including lyrics and pictures, with no indication that the website has obtained permission from the copyright owner to legally distribute the material. Per WP:EL, articles cannot link to websites that violate the copyrights of others. Please also note that a) you should avoid linking to sites you own, maintain or represent, and b) the passage you quoted is a talk page comment (i.e., one editor's opinion), not an official guideline. --Muchness 07:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fansites 

message: An editor has suggested on my talk page that Xzibit and Nate Dogg should be added to the infobox "associated acts" field. The acts have collaborated and appeared together in videos. Is this sufficient to warrant inclusion in the infobox? --Muchness 02:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He is certainly closely related to Nate Dogg, Xzibit is much more iffy but I would still consider it. Definetly going to Put Nate Dogg in associated acts unless anyone has serious objections? --St.daniel Talk 22:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that neither Xzibit nor Nate Dogg should be included in associated acts, because they didn't work with Eminem as much as 50 Cent, for example. Also, Jay-Z should be removed from the associated acts, because they worked together on one song only. I might be wrong, though. Daniil Maslyuk 15:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated acts 

message: Why are there two "Drug use" sections? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) (drop me a line) 08:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the first one is related to his drug use and the second one is related to the contervorsy surrounding his drug use. It does seem unsessecary though. --St.daniel Talk 11:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it yesterday, i didnt see this comment though SGGH speak! 10:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Should Bassmint Productions be included in list of labels? The label even doesn't have its own page. And if it should, then years active should be changed to "1992 to present". Daniil Maslyuk 15:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labels 

message: yeah , eminem didn't sell 75 million albums worldwide , lotsa of eminem fans on wikipedia >.> (they are trying to make eminem look better than 2pac)
haha whos gives a crap regardles of this eminem will still outsell mr shakur in the future if he hasnt already.... woooo
He sold around 77 million albums worldwide, but that doesn't mean those figures beat 2pac's but they probly do by now :P
Eminemfanatic 77.98.84.17 12:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hey eminem didn't sell 75 million 

message: My wife read somewhere that during a back stage meeting at the 2001 grammys, that Eminem whipped out a crossbow and pulled in on Diana Ross, and that a fight instantly broke out between her bodygaurds, and his "Posse" Should we put this in?
No.  raining girl 12:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pulled Crossbow on Diana Ross? 

message: Come on people, remove Snoop Dogg from the associated acts. They only worked together on like one song (Bitch Please II). That does not mean they are associated. --- 72.142.212.28 19:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. Daniil Maslyuk 03:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snoop Dogg 

message: What happened to his fifth studio album article?
--Frans Adiesha 16:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fifth studio album 

message: Eminem admits he is is happy with gays, it's no joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHEFLLUMsdk.
Hmmm, no wonder he split up then
That isn't a real interview, ya know what I'm sayin'? SlimShady6135 23:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  According to an interview 

message: The current picture of Eminem is terrible. There are much better pictures. WHy not use an official one?
:See Wikipedia:Fair use Nil Einne 17:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Picture 

message: Alleged Homophobia section needs to quote some of his lyrics and would also help to cite one of the high profile LGBT groups statements about same. This would add context before going into the Elton John duo performance which effectively silenced much of that criticism. Benjiboi 08:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged Homophia section needs quotes 

message: In several other articles (ie without me) i have found refrences to Eminem's Mother filing a lawsuit against him. Possibly for defamation, libel, or slander. Could someone with more knowledge include something about this.66.176.172.119 04:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debbie Mathers Lawsuit 

message: As of today, July 24, 2007, this article seems to be in the midst of an editing war over citation requests.  My opinion is that the requests are overbroad at this point.  Do we need a citation for the statement that Marshall Mathers is commonly known as Eminem?  I think not.  Also, each clause of a sentence does not need citation.  For example, where the article says: "The song features a very strong anti-Bush message" it follows this with: "with lyrics such as 'fuck Bush'".  Clearly then, the "citation needed" tag at the end of the first clause is unecessary.  I have no vested interest in this page, having visited it for the first time yesterday, and I am of the opinion that the edits by User:Realist2 are vandalism.  Kgwo1972 18:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fully agree about a lot of citations not being necessary, such as the Eminem example you mentioned.  I fixed it but I suspect someone will unfix it.  Dachande 19:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: However Realist2, it can only be deleted if it is 1) doubtful, 2) harmful, 3) contentious.  Deleting non-doubtful, non-harmful, non-contentious content IS vandalism.  Since the Header at the top of the page is Eminem I am pretty sure that we have established that Marshall Mathers is Eminem.  Additionally, you're being a bad wikipedian.  According to the policy on biographies of living persons, you shouldn't be tagging stuff you feel is unsourced and unreliable, you should be deleting it.  The rest of us are apparently willing to take for granted that M. Mathers is Eminem, but if you find it so doubtful and contentious (funny how I keep using the exact adjectives from the WikiGuidelines pages) you should be removing it.    Or you know, actually finding sources to put into the tags.  Cuz then there'd just be the little 1 character footnotes instead of the obnoxious 15 character tags.  Plus, anything you put a Citation Needed on, makes the obvious seem less correct.  But anything left untagged (until say, an upstanding member of the wikicommunity such as yourself inserts the entire citation) seems more like a given.  Now, I can appreciate your example you gave about Michael Jackson and needing a source for "the King of Pop" because someone else gave him that name and he doesn't perform, record, or distribute albums under that name, but for stage names, get off it.  Dachande 16:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just glanced at more of the article...Now, a lot of the body may need all those citations...fine whatever, but when someone actually gets around to adding citations, please do so in a manner that minimizes the actually number of tags.  Avoid tagging clauses if the entire sentence can be tagged to sources.  Right now it looks really bad to have all those "citation needed" tags floating around.  I think a better scheme is tag a sentence that needs sources anywhere in it, and then we know the whole sentence should be justified. Dachande 17:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue of citation needed for M. Mathers = Eminem (specifically) has been resolved.  Concensus reached.  Thank you all, I am so glad we could agree on that one.  I apologize for any loss of temper I may have personally let slip.  Good faith, civility, honor, etc.  Have a good day. Dachande 17:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't care enough, I just happened upon the article and thought it looked ridiculous. I only tried to get you banned because you were rude and erroneously threatened people with being blocked for vandalism. 
And if you want to be taken seriously, you really should use spellcheck. It is "know," not "no," when you say, "Actually i no wikipedia policy on citation tags, it is not vandalism or spam no matter how many tags are requested." And it's "libelous," not "libilous."--YellowTapedR 23:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many citation requests 

message: What about adding information about smaller eminem album releases like eminem is back, don't call me marshall, and anger management 3 mixtape?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.131.213 (talk) 02:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem is back album 

message: This article needs a lot of cleaning up. I am going to add a 'To-Do' list which will liost all of the tasks that need to be completed to sort this article out. --The-G-Unit-Boss 11:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: here here, sources is what we need, oh but dont put tags on , because if you put too many on your accused of vandalism and he pee on his child for disrescepting him ,ha what a joke. I think the best thing is to delete anything unsourced. It is after all wiki policy. Oh no  no1 wants that do they? well maybe the tags weren`t such a bad idea after all. Realist2 15:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I have been cleaning the article up loads. i.e all of the references etc, we just need people to find sources now. --The-G-Unit-Boss 19:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: This picture is very blurry and i suggest a new one —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.184.103.203 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The new picture we got up there now is awsome. DurotarLord 18:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, the shitness of that picture was the first thing I noticed on viewing the article 83.147.180.185 15:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Picture 

message: Why is T.I on associated acts they only did 3 songs together...volumesoxxs 07:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated Acts 

message: If possible, can someone remove the current picture and replace it with a less-blurry one?  If someone could obtain the picture shown on Eminem's album, Eminem, that would be a good replacement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iluvmesodou  (talk • contribs) 08:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't use copyright images such as album art to illustrate living people if a free equivalent is available or could be created that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose (see WP:NFCC). The current picture is the only free image of Eminem editors have been able to locate so far. --Muchness 08:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Cover Picture 

message: I uploaded a new pic to the article......hope its ok.... --Frans Adiesha 09:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeh, thanks for uploading it --The-G-Unit-Boss 20:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New pic 

message: The citation needed for the disputes with the named 20 odd people has not been provided. If it is not found in the nexy week it will have to be deleted. Realist2 08:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, boss. --YellowTapedR 23:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah because then you'd have to be digi-smacked. TheJudge310 20:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  time is ticking 

message: source #10 does not exist. someone remove it please. 88.107.45.187 13:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for noticing this. I have now removed it. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 13:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source not found 

message: His debut was not 8 Mile. It was in Dr. Dre/Snoop Dogg's movie Da Hip Hop Witch.
:  Look at what you're saying: "debut" means that he first appeared, and, "cameo" means that he just had a small part but is known to the people/fans - this is usually done to promote the film - and "starred" means that he has lead role.  BUT starred and debut will usually go TOGETHER especially if it is eagerly anticipated.  Eminem FIRST appeared in a big budget movie but he did a cameo previously as an extra 78.144.16.30 18:59, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acting 

message: what the hell happened to that previous eminem picture....??--Frans Adiesha 09:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  mugshot 

message: Is there a rule for deciding which to use?  70.135.135.25 05:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well other rappers like Akon and Dr. Dre use the stage name, so i would guess stage name. And plus its what most people know him by... EvilHom3r 00:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stage name vs. given name 

message: There is no information about his upbringing. Like being small for his age and having to defend himself through dissing lyrics. There is nothing written on his daughter Hailie or his ex-wife Kim. How he met Dr. Dre at a competition Eminem almost won. The Biography is just a chronology of his recordings.
There is a much more concise biography at [hiphoproll.com/eminem/] Jyle 07:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need alot more on his personal life, like i see NOTHING about his kids here. EvilHom3r 00:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography has little info on his life 

message: M&M = Memphis & Misraim 
aka. 'evil fucks anon' http://www.parareligion.ch/mm.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.184.126.251 (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: M&M = Marshal Mathers.
-G  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 22:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  M&M 

message: Somebody screwed up this page. The entire thing is written and worded poorly. Would someone with the initiative please touch it up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.195.159 (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Entire Page 

message: Nothing on Hailie or Kim exists on this page despite the fact that when you search those two up, you end up here. Please put in some info on them here! Mapletip 04:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hailie? 

message: does anybody know where Marshall got the stage names, SlimShady and Eminem from cause wikipedia don't say  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.35.82 (talk) 07:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He originally collaborated with Proof, trying to get the best 12 rappers in Detroit to form the Dirty Dozen (later, "D-12").  They couldn't find 12, but they got 6 and tried to get the "alternate personality" in order to fill out the 12.  Proof said that he was going to be Dirty Harry, and then Eminem said that he was going to use the moniker "Billy the Kid."  It was only later that, whilst taking a dump, it "just came to him" - - his nickname would be "Slim Shady."  (For reference purposes, this was all said during an interview with Cipha Sounds on the first show of "Behind the Boards" on Sirius radio.  I don't have a date/time for it, but there's a .mp3 file here:  )BFeen (talk) 20:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  stage names 

message: such a biased wiki article done probably by a eminem stan, i mean fan. Why is there no piece of article mentioned about it? It's highly debatable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.73.40 (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem's racist tapes against black people and black women 

message: what happened to the references??? somebody ruined the links and now they dont work anymore! please somebody fix em. thx Vacanzeromane 15:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, what's going on here? Does anyone know how to get the reflist repopulated? Blazotron 01:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources 

message: Shouldn't there be a mention of him on the article somewhere? SlimShady6135 03:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doubtful, he's already received more attention then he deserves and even that wasn't much Nil Einne (talk) 12:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyle Spratt 

message: Does anyone know where the screen name "Eminem" came from? Perhaps it's from a popular brand of candy. 124.106.201.225 09:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ?! Say Marshall Mather's initials out loud. Ashmoo 16:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think he was trying to be funny dearly 16:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was his innitials, but to avoid copywrite infringment he spelled it out 70.190.221.136 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 18:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Name 

message: Slim Shady and Eminem are both stage names and he is well known by both so the extra words were really unnecessary in the first sentence.Dawidburg 18:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:Eminem.jpg 

message: This picture is the first one we had going, and it really gives a shockingly bad view of Eminem.
I can hardly see his face in that one. Does NO ONE have a better picture at all, that can be used under wikipedia's standards?
- 121.219.107.55  —Preceding comment was added at 10:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the current picture is horrible.Dawidburg (talk) 06:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: The following statement at the end of "Criticism of George W. Bush" seems absurd, and is unsourced:
"White America" also brought the U.S. Secret Service attention at first, but gave up after seeing a statement from Eminem after the song: "*laughs* I'm just playing America, you know I love you".
Virtuald 15:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced statement 

message: In the section titled 'First releases', 'Insane Clown Posse' should read 'Insane Clown Posse(ICP).' so that people realise that the further references to ICP means this same band.
In the section titled 'Other projects and D12, in the paragraph begining on April 11, the word lawfully is repeated twice in the third sentence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.99.83.5 (talk) 11:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggesed changes 

message: Should eminem have Rapcore in his genre list? cause he has combined Rap with rock such as:Sing for the moment,Marshal mathers,etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Belchey (talk • contribs) 23:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to initially say no, because in both mentioned songs Eminem did 0% of the rock parts. "Marshall Mathers" did not feature any rock tracks though, however Crazy in Love did. Both songs also share in common though that the band did not actively record the song with him, and he used pre-recorded samples to mix and match. I vote no for putting him in this catagory, at least for now. TheJudge310 (talk) 00:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rapcore? 

message: Someone changed his name to "Balls." This should be changed back to Eminem. 
~Hooswillose
:yes, and he obviously was not born in "peter is a monster, petersville" and i dont think he is 104 years old. (he was born in 1972). Somebody should fix the information in that table. 70.21.242.13 (talk) 03:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name?? 

message: Reference No. 53 is a dead link. —T-borg (T | C) 10:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 54, that is, sorry. —T-borg (T | C) 17:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note 

message: Why are Headings letters NOT in uppercase?  They are like chapters and its just proper punctuation... e.g Rise to Fame as opposed to Rise to fame ?  LOTRrules (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that's just the way Wikipedia is. Rappingwonders (talk) 21:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: but its not good punctuation LOTRrules (talk) 18:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you feel this guideline should change, feel free to discuss it at the talk page for WP:STYLE, that is where it's clearly defined. -Verdatum (talk) 15:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uppercase 

message: Per Wikipedia:Criticism, I believe that some of the info in the "Controversy" section that's in the article in this moment be integrated throughout the "Biography" section, as controversies of Eminem tend to go chronologically. For example, the controversies over homophobic/misogynistic/anti-Bush/anti-Michael Jackson lyrics could go within the "1999-2004" section, and the 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America could go in the "2005-present" section. However, I'm at fences over the "criticism from other artists" section: because the first paragraph isn't sourced, and the second one mentioning Chuck D of Public Enemy and Weird Al tend to go within 2002-2003, so I'm not sure of whether this article would be good with a short section devoted only to "criticism from other artists", or this stuff being integrated within Eminem's main biography. 
I'd like to reach a consensus among editors before further action is taken. Thank you. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a reasonable idea to me.  The controversies can be attributed to specific dates, so no reason to filter them off to a separate section. -Verdatum (talk) 15:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. I will begin re-organizing the article as soon as I can. Other editors may help too. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 23:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't know how much my comment helps, but I continue to agree.  Unfortunately, especially with a topic such as this, that will receive frequent edits from novice editors, it's just something that must be monitored and fixed as nonconstructive edits are made.  Hopefully though, anyone disagreeing will present their argument here before editing as recommended by guideline. -Verdatum (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

message: Now, again the controversy section has been reformed, although i've tried integrating the controversies throughout the article. Per Wikipedia:Criticism, which cites article structure under NPOV policy as discouraging pushing "controversial" aspects into one section. In my humble opinion, I think a "controversy" section pushes way too much attention toward Em's controversies, which should really be viewed within his main chronological bio. Wikipedia biographies of living persons should take the reader's main attention toward the person's life, not just controversies. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how much my comment helps, but I continue to agree.  Unfortunately, especially with a topic such as this, that will receive frequent edits from novice editors, it's just something that must be monitored and fixed as nonconstructive edits are made.  Hopefully though, anyone disagreeing will present their argument here before editing as recommended by guideline. -Verdatum (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reformed?

message: Is there a section that descrines marshalls mother? or a separate article? I can't find either.  Also he seems to hate his mother as I recall he says in one of his songs:
 
Sorry for being so graphic but I believe Debs refers to his mother? I mean he insults her which might suggest family conflict? I'm not so sure...But should we have a section dedicated to his mother or his ex-wife for that matter? LOTRrules (talk) 21:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You must be extremely careful when making conclusions from such references.  You can't use his lyrics to determine if he's being serious, or if his opinion continues to hold; he's allowed to change his mind after all.  All these cautionary issues are covered in Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.  Oh also, Wikipedia is not censored.  So long as it's appropriate, and quoting lyrics certainly is, you don't need to use asterisks or apologize or anything. -Verdatum (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminems Mother & Family 

message: The source identified in the wrestling section is hardly credible. Not that it isn't true. Also, in the wrestling section, the sentence regarding the rumor being false should be verified in some fashion. --Hookedonlsd (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing the section as we speak, as this is only speculation. This is typical with wrestling articles on Wikipedia. Keep on the watchout for these sort of edits until something concrete comes out.--Raderick (talk) 04:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a crazy rumor, and I will be watching this page around the clock.--TrUCo9311 13:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrestling 

message: Now I am not trying to start a dead rumor. But has EMINEM ever wrestling before. On his song It's Okay Album Infinite he says "Trying to wrestle, I almost bust a blood vessel" leading me to believe he tried out to become a wrestler. I was just wondering if EMINEM ever talked about it on an Interview or some sort of reliable source explaining that lyric. 141.155.31.76 (talk) 00:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  EMINEM Wrestling 

message: I've noticed a lot of the article missing including the entire "Controversy" section. SlimShady6135 (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who removed so much? 

message: Why no mention of this album/title yet? 77.96.240.178 (talk) 11:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  So You Wanna Freestyle 

message: Why is their absolutly nothing about Halie or Eminem's ex on this page? DurotarLord (talk) 00:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (Moved section to bottom, per WP Standard practice) The information was removed in this revision without explanation.  If someone likes, and it is appropriate (according to WP:BLP), the revision may be undone. -Verdatum (talk) 01:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halie and Kim? 

message: Couldn't a higher resolution picture be used at the top of the article? To be quite honest, this one looks terrible and makes the article actually seem less credible. Ch33zer (talk) 22:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue has been raised many times before.  Feel free to find a better image that is not a copyright violation and upload it. -Verdatum (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blurry Picture 

message: Eminem has a verse on The Game's One Blood Midwest Remix. Was it done intentionally by him or unintentionally?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.112.120.133 (talk) 23:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intentionally or Untentionally? 

message: No matter how much Eminem wants to play it off as him being from the big city, he is not from Detroit.  Origin needs to be changed to his suburban home of Warren, MI.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danisdaman (talk • contribs) 06:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong place of origin

message: I think there should be a heading with all his beefs in it. They made a small reference to the beef with ICP but didn't really expand upon it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.246.174.55 (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beefs 

message: On the first section of the biography, theres some major vandalism.  I cant edit this page so could someone please remove that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.117.237 (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism :O 

message: I am worried; why are there only about 5 websites on the whole internet that have the real lyrics to the song? Why cant i find the original version? Why does nobody seem to be aware of the fact that they are listening to the censored version?
None of these are lyrics in the song 'My Name Is...'; "My English teacher wanted to flunk me in junior high. Thanks a lot - next semester I'll be thirty-five." "Extraterestrial, running over pedestrians in a spaceship while they're screaming at me 'Lets just be friends!'" They are lyrics to the censored version, which seems to have taken over the internet.
Originally it was "My english teacher wanted to fuck me in junior high. The only problem was, my english teacher was a guy." And "Extraterestrial, killing pedestrians, raping lesbians while they're screaming at me 'Lets just be friends!'"
There may be more, but i cannot recall them. There are sources on the internet, if you look hard enough, but i feel worried about trusting even them, since The Powers that Be seem so determined to dissolve the truth with their excellently fitted but false lyrics.
I'm sure this deserves at least a passing mention - we all now know that it was "Seven kids from Columbine" and nothing else, so why are the masses so ignorant to this?
Thanks,
BrockFettes (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censorship of 'My Name Is...' 

message: Anyone wanna tell me how a blind man like Stevie Wonder can be commenting on a video?  I mean, he's blind, right?
Here's the quote discussing the Just Lose It video in the article
"Many of Jackson's supporters and friends spoke out about the video, including Stevie Wonder, who called the video "kicking a man while he's down" and "bullshit"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.193.237 (talk) 00:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stevie Wonder? 

message: --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All done! :) Gary King (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you to Gary King for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: EMINEM IS NOT A GANGSTA RAPPER! WHOEVER KEEPS PUTTING HIS GENRE AS GANGSTA RAP ON EMINEM-RELATED ARTICLES, STOP DOING IT! HE ONLY DOES IT FEATURING IN 50 CENT SONGS-SCB '92 (talk) 13:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangsta Rap 

message: A while back there was a complaint about the quality of the picture. I've cleaned up the blotchy colours somewhat, but it's unfortunately a little blurrier. I'll let someone else decide whether to replace it on the page. http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/nazlfrag/eminemfinal2.png  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazlfrag (talk • contribs) 18:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What an awful foto. Rather none at all than such a terrible cell phone shot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.57.93.31 (talk) 21:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, this is the same image as has been on this page for a long while, I just attempted to clean up the worst of the colour artefacts. There was a loss of fine detail though, so in the end it's still less than ideal. Nazlfrag (talk) 10:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Recently It's been heavily speculated that Eminem's philosophical view on life is closely aligned to the Nation of Gods and Earths. This can be suppourted by earlier references in his music depicting devil worship. This can be attributed to the fact that white members of the 5% nation are classified as "righteous devils". This theory can also be suppourted by his musical influences, whom by a majority are 5%ers (Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Wu-Tang Clan, X-Clan, Nas, Jay-Z, Mobb Deep...), his collaborations with Rawkus Records, and the political/social views and subject matter in his music.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.125.78.12 (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occultism 

message: could this be eminem youtube page? http://youtube.com/user/EminemMusicRecords  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.154.35 (talk) 01:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem Youtube User 

message: That is not a photo of eminem on the front page  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.178.133 (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Photo 

message: Why isnt there anything on the RE-UP on here it wasnt just him but the album is called EMINEM presents the re-up & why does it say fifth album they have a name for it its King Mathers  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.31.189 (talk) 01:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  KING MATHERS & THE RE-UP 

message: I have the answer to "KING MATHERS & THE RE-UP" subject i dont think he would call it that becuz he is friend w/ T.I and as u know T.I calls him self that  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tupac Fan 123 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have da answer 

message: somebody plz change the picture, this one is not so good  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluefialka (talk • contribs) 16:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll note in the talkpage archives for this article that this issue has been brought up numerous times before.  The problem is, no one seems to be able to find a better photo that meets with Wikipedia's Image use policy.  If you have one, or can find one, by all means, submit it.  Otherwise, it doesn't really help much to ask for a better image here.  It is always the case that if someone has a better image for an article that they are urged to edit the article to include it. -Verdatum (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Your effort is appreciated.  Unfortunately, you replaced it with a copyrighted image.  You did not properly fill out the non-free use rational in accordance with Image use policy, and since a free image is available, I believe this also violates Non-free content criteria.  Without in the least filling out the non-free use rational, this image will be auto removed in a few days. -Verdatum (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

text: You just copied it from here...real smart :| Do U(knome)? yes...|or no · 20:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How strange...one would think that people would take pictures at concerts, etc. vlad§inger  tlk  04:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the picture! 

message: Under the D12 section it says Eminem and fellow D12 member Obie Trice spoke at Proofs funeral. Obie Trice is not in D12. Someone who has the ability should change this  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thaprototype (talk • contribs) 05:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  D12 - Obie Trice isn't a member!!! 

message: It's unreasonable to keep adding rappers to that section. "Bobby Creekwater"??? Seriously? We might as well add all those from this list!! That section should contain only the acts that deeply affected his career: "Soul Intent", "D12" and perhaps "Dr. Dre". I'm removing the rest. Do U(knome)? yes...|or no · 22:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated acts 

message: i'd love it if someone could edit this and add that a big fan of his, who even got the same tattoos as eminem, murdered a girl and stuffed her in a suitcase, like the lyrics to an eminem song. his violent, misogynistic lyrics have contributed to an actual murder.
here's a link to the article: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/12/05/crime.eminem/
i'm new to wiki editing and want someone to do it properly :)really good rapper i'm talki'n real . I know all his songs . 
24.193.45.32 (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  controversy -- inspired murder 

message: It was a deleted link. I put the image from the Eminem Discography page for a temp image. Go ahead and replace it if you can find a better one. --Npnunda (talk) 00:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This image has been here for ages. What are you talking about? Do U(knome)? yes...|or no 04:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image on this page 

message: Os this section of the article gone?  I've been trying to find information on some rumored feuds involving Eminem, 50 Cent and others, but Wikipedia is mysteriously silent.68.164.200.167 (talk) 06:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feuds 

message: In the "Early life and first releases" section, it claims that Royce and Eminem "referred to themselves as Bad Meets Evil, with Royce playing 'The Bad' and Eminem playing 'The Evil', as Eminem and Royce each clearly state in the song Bad Meets Evil."  Oddly enough, when I listen to the song, I hear Eminem clearly state the following:
Cause this is what happens when bad meets evil,
and we hit the trees 'til we look like Vietnamese people.
He's evil and I'm bad like Steve Seagle,
above the law 'cause I don't agree with police either.
I can't see that I have the ability to edit the main page, so perhaps someone with the capability can make the change.
216.31.249.116 (talk) 20:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discrepancy 

message: Where did the fifth go then?
Slim Shady LP
Marshall Mathers LP
The Eminem Show
Encore
-> Fifth?
And if you DO count the D12 albums, it should be seventh... it can never be sixth?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.91.63.84 (talk) 22:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how many times I've explained this already...just please click this link. Do U(knome)? yes...|or no 04:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sixth Studio Album? 

message: i think eminem sold 80 million albums already i read it in a newspaper that like 80 or 81 not "over 70" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.129.119 (talk) 
:I personally believe by now he might have reached 80 million of copies sold worldwide. However, I've never encountered a reliable source claiming this yet. Would you be kind enough to cite your source? Thanks. Do U(knome)? yes...|or no 04:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  80 MILLION ALBUMS SOLD 

message: This sentence:
This deal gave him the rights to songs my Eminem, Shakira and Beck amongst other.
Should be:
This deal gave him the rights to songs by Eminem, Shakira and Beck amongst other.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Reddox (talk • contribs) 
: Thanks for the correction. Do U(knome)? yes...|or no 19:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical error 

message: Like, how his dad tried to contact him at one time after he became famous and how his aunt and uncle tried to sue him because he promised to buy them a house and he didn't.
:That's all wonderful stuff.  Unfortunately, because Marshall Mathers is a living person, this article is subject to the strict policies of WP:BLP.  We can't just add information even if we are certain it's true.  You must find a reputable source and cite it along with the information.  If you can do that, then I'm sure concensus would be that it's welcome in the article. -Verdatum (talk) 14:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, autobiographies are acceptable to be used as a source for information provided the facts cited meet a few basic criteria.  Details may be found at WP:SELFPUB. -Verdatum (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

text: (followup) Unless you are asking about mentioning the fact that he's writing an autobiography, in which case, that would be fine to add so long as you include a Verifiable Reliable Source that states he's writing an autobiography. -Verdatum (talk) 14:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life section need expanded? 

message: David Hurcombe killed himself in 2001, and it is believed that Rock Bottom's lyrics which were discovered in his bedroom were linked to his suicide. How come nobody mentioned this.
:Probably no specific reason beyond the fact that Wikipedia was brand new in 2001.  Unless specific action was taken against Eminem, it could be argued that this fact is related to the song, and not the artist.  But, speaking for myself, so long as the fact was properly cited with a Reliable Source, such as a reputable major news publication, I'd have no problem with it being in this article. -Verdatum (talk) 14:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suicide linked to Rock Bottom's lyrics 

message: Eminem wrote a new book and its going to come out this year: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Way-I-Am/Eminem/e/9780525950325/?itm=1
and on the back cover in the pics it says that hes soon going to come out with a new record this year so i guess it confirms the new album?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.58.95 (talk) 01:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If what you say is correct (I didn't follow the link), this only confirms that there are plans to come out with a new album.  Specific information about release schedules for albums change all the time.  IIRC there is also a cited quote saying any new album will not come out in 2008, so the two facts would need to be placed in parallel (e.g "Source A states that Sleeping Beauty's dress will be pink, however, Source B states that the dress will be blue."). -Verdatum (talk) 14:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Hm...I can't remember where I saw that claim; it may be all in my head or I might have been thinking of a different artist.  Regardless, I can't find it now, and Eminem's sixth studio album has plenty of sources claiming 2008.  So nevermind me :) -Verdatum (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book by Eminem 

message: Please fix the accolade in the first paragraph.  I'm sure Mick Jagger & Co. like Eninem, too, but the list is by Rolling Stone (so this is "Rolling Stone's" article, not "The Rolling Stones'").  
This is a good article.
:.  Good catch. -Verdatum (talk) 15:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Grammar Fix 

message: I think this sentence:
"He also addresses the charges he faced over assaulting a bouncer he saw kissing his wife in 2000. "
requires 'allegedly' (...a bouncer he allegedly saw...)
It's in the 2002–2003: The Eminem Show section (later in 'Legal Troubles' allegedly is used)
Otherwise great article!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haydskies (talk • contribs) 00:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor correction... 

message: I am not for sure the exact years he was in saint joseph,MO but i can tell you he was in saint joseph,MO through out middle school and highschool and yes there are year books proving this claim. so i think you should look into that a little more
-samantha  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.53.22 (talk) 16:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem spent alot of years in st.joseph 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eminem&oldid=96352679#Controversies
Why were these things taken out from much older versions?  The entire old article contains a LOT of information missing in this article today.
:This general question has been asked a few times in the past.  Some of it justifiably would have been removed because it does not meet WP:BLP.  Any controversies or other information that is documented in reliable and verifiable sources is welcome so long as the source is provided.  The reason why this hasn't been done is probably just because no one has bothered. -Verdatum (talk) 16:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: Eminem does not meet the notability criteria for person/band. Why is that article still here??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.149.198.76 (talk) 10:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (Moved to bottom of discussion page per convention.) I can only guess this comment is an attempt to make some sort of point.  Eminem has recieved signifigant coverage in a number of independent resources, and the article reflects this fact.  If the editor is serious, in what way do you believe he does not meet notability criteria? -Verdatum (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: St. Clair Shores is spelled incorrectly--was going to fix it, but it's locked and I don't have an account.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.234.198 (talk) 05:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Melmann (talk) 00:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 

message: Eminem Has Sold Over 83 Millions Can You Update This Please
* Infinite (1995) (Sold roughly 500 copies out of the trunk of his car/unofficial)
* The Slim Shady EP (1997) (Precursor to The Slim Shady LP, sharing many of its songs, also including tracks with original, alternate beats/unofficial)
* The Slim Shady LP (1999) #2 US (5x Platinum); #12 UK (Platinum) (9 million worldwide)
* The Marshall Mathers LP (2000) #1 US (8 weeks) (1X Diamond) (10X Platinum); #1 UK (6x Platinum) (22 million worldwide)
* The Eminem Show (2002) #1 US (6 weeks) (9X Platinum); #1 UK (5 weeks) (4x Platinum) (21 million worldwide)
* Music From And Inspired By The Motion Picture 8 Mile #1 US (2002) (4x Platinum/soundtrack) (9 million worldwide)
* Encore (2004) #1 US (4 weeks) (6x Platinum); #1 UK (3x Platinum) (15 million worldwide)
* Curtain Call: The Hits (2005) #1 US (2 weeks) (2x Platinum) #1 UK (5 weeks) (7 million worldwide/miscellaneous-greatest hits)
* Eminem Presents: The Re-Up (2006) (Shady Records) (compilation)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noddyyyyy (talk • contribs) 22:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I found sources for this. I updated the article and provided the references. —Do U(knome)? yes...or no 02:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  records sold 

message: He wasn't born in '72. HE was born in 73. Just listen to the Cleanin out my CLoset  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.122.117 (talk) 16:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid that evidence alone would generally not be considered a reliable source.  Especially since the song doesn't say "I was born in 1973" or even anything along those lines.  Plus, '72 doesn't rhyme with "multi-platinum sellin' CD." In the context of the song, '73 refers to the date when his father left. -Verdatum (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthday 

message: I've insert on Commons a new Eminem's image from Flickr, the title is Eminem. If you like it you can add the image in to the article.--FENIX 89 (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image 

message: Shouldn't we add something about his autobiography The Way I am? --Bnvdarklord (talk) 11:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  A mention of the book has already been added. I just got a copy of it yesterday, so I was planning to flip through it today to see if there was anything worth adding. -Verdatum (talk) 17:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autobiography 

message: Unless someone can prove that Mr. Mathers is scared of gay people, please change "homophobia" to "anti-homosexuality." Thank you. 64.221.15.66 (talk) 20:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While it is true that it is much more likely that Eminem has been guilty of "anti-homosexuality" than of homophobia, the reference supplied uses the term "homophobe".  The fact in question is not related to what Eminem is or is not, it is related to what he has (or has not) been accused of. -Verdatum (talk) 21:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Homo" 

message: There's no mention of Em's beef with Benzino (although a reference to the request to pull the Michael Jackson song is in the article) including the four-song diss EP Eminem released as well as the full album Benzino released dissing Em. Also, no mention of his beef with DMX and Ja-Rule.
I suggest either an entire new article devoted strictly to his beefs (which he has more of than most rappers, imo) or at least a stub.
205.219.133.1 (talk) 14:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He never had beef with DMX. 74.5.62.46 (talk) 04:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I do believe it would be possible to write content, if not an entire subarticle on his beefs with other artists.  I seem to recall some revisions of this article containing some of them.  Unfortunately, such content must be presented extremely carefully, due to the strict nature of WP:BLP.  For example, supporting claims through artists' song-lyrics alone would not be considered a sufficiently reliable source.  I expect it is for this reason that the content is conspicuously outstanding.  If someone wants to take a shot at putting together the content with inline citations to reliable sources, I'd be happy to do any formatting/copyediting needed to render it appropriate for Wikipedia. -Verdatum (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Beefs 

message: Release date states May 17th despite being backed up a source that clearly states May 19th. (in the main intro description)
Can this be changed ASAP by somebody with access. The release date was clearly announced as May 19, not 17. Thedevilspoon (talk) 00:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a larger discussion of this on the page Talk:Relapse (album). Go there Kiraisgod666 (talk) 22:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  release date is wrong 

message: Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? It went to #1 in the US. — R2 00:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The general convention on major artists like this is to only list full albums in the biography, and to use Template:Main to link to a discography page to report on smaller releases, like singles.  I believe that song is mentioned on Eminem discography, so all should be well as is. -Verdatum (talk) 21:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Crack a Bottle]] 

message: If anyone can please guide me, I have a free photo of eminem on my PC, how can i get it up here.?
:Please follow the directions at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload
:Once it has been uploaded, you can either add it to the article using instructions at WP:IMAGE, replace the current image, as no one really likes it much, or just put the link below, and I or someone else will make sure it gets in all pretty-like, providing it improves the article.  Happy editing! -Verdatum (talk) 21:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to put the old one back, it was likely a copy violation. Sorry. — R2 06:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I'll try for you. — R2 15:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I've cropped the image to focus on Eminem himself.  I'd still love to see a higher quality image, but I believe this is at least marginally better than the previous image.  The image feels oddly familiar though...I don't suppose it was on a previous revision on the article?  I'm probably just losing it. -Verdatum (talk) 21:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mean to be accusatory to the original uploader, but this looks very much like a screenshot. It almost looks like someone took the image from a video browser and used an image cropper to upload it here. This could be easily from the DVD  Live from New York City 2005. Do U(knome)? yes...or no 22:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know enough about Eminem to comment on the validity of the image, I own one of his studio albums and a greatest hits album, so not an expert I'm afraid. I'm assuming good faith that he owns the copy right to the image, as he claims.  — R2 05:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with Udonknome. The new image does indeed look like a screen shot from a video and has no metadata, so it could very well be a copyright violation. However, if the image actually is taken by uploader, it's not any better than the previous lead image. In fact, it might be even worse. Karppinen (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What a pain.  It does rather look like a widescreen screencap.  Given that the guy has actually written songs about fans stopping him in the bathroom asking for autographs and such, you'd think one of these people would've snagged a decent photo and would be kind enough to release the thing under a friendly license.  If anyone feels it better to revert to the previous photo, I won't fight about it. -Verdatum (talk) 15:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: 50 Cent, G-Unit  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.18.215 (talk) 10:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ; Based on the information on Template:Infobox Musical artist, they seem appropriate to me. -Verdatum (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Are you implying that 50 Cent and G-Unit are not associated acts?  You don't pay much attention to what's going on in the hip-hop world, do you? Mertens21 (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated Acts 

message: to this  http://www.hiphoprx.com/content/uploads/2007/11/eminem_all-black.jpg, it is a way better pic of him then the one that is up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.119.132.64 (talk) 03:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See that writing on the bottom of it?  It's copyrighted.  We can't use it. -Verdatum (talk) 14:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need a freely available picture, it seems the one we have is from a fan's cellphone. I've tried to clean it up here but it's still ugly. We do need a decent picture released under a creative commons licence or similar that we can use, but for now the picture stays. I'll upload my version to wikimedia if it's required, though it's hardly much of an improvement but more just a slight colour correction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazlfrag (talk • contribs) 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, at least your image is an improvement. It would be nice if you uploaded that image to this link so that the current image would be replaced with your version. I can't believe no one has found since 2005 a better free image than that one. Do U(knome)? yes...or no 18:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most newspapers/medias use similar pictures of him. Isn't there a possibility to get hold of a legaly availiable picture by a newspaperor something comparable? Or Interscope. They make pictures of him as well, are they really all copyrighted or not to be used by common persons? I mean this picture is DEFINIATLY ugly. --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 22:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

text: The image has an implied copyright unless stated otherwise.  so the issue is one of WP:Non-free content, which states, "Unacceptable use...Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images. " (My emphasis), So if you want a better image, find him, ask permission to take his picture if possible, and take a better photo.  Alternatively, you can request an image through eminem's agent By either Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission of an image, or requesting they release an image under a compatible license (Creative Commons, Public Domain, etc). -Verdatum (talk) 17:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: i think that ones from 8 mileД narchistPig (talk) 21:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Every photograph of Eminem has an implied copyright unless it can be proven otherwise.  The intellectual property owner must explicitly release it to the public domain, or release it under a license that gives us explicit permission to use it.  If you don't see such a release, we cannot use it. -Verdatum (talk) 15:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

text: No, we cannot.  Again, the details are outlined at WP:Non-free content.  If you go to the page for the uploaded image in question, :File:The Marshall Mathers LP Limited Edition.JPG You'll see a tag declaring the image to be copyrighted.  Copyrighted images are allowed to be uploaded and used in Wikipedia, but they are only permissible for certain specific applications.  An image of an album cover is permissible on the article about the album itself, but it cannot be used to represent the subject in the photograph. -Verdatum (talk) 15:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  should change to main picture of him... 

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