Talk:Marin Academy/Archive 1

message: There have been a lot of edits on this page recently, and while some of them have been very well engineered, many have been contributing either off topic or unencyclopedic information. -206.13.48.3 20:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let us keep this article on topic 

message: Not sure who did it, as the IP tracks to the school's campus, but the article had a lot of good information that didn't necessarily need to be removed. There was also a link to a website I run, the Unofficial MA Forums, which didn't necessarily need to go. Mmeyers 07:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone cut a lot of it 

message: I still think that this article has a lot of unnecessary information, especially names. The point of a wiki article on MA should be to describe the school, not to give various people (students and faculty alike) name checks. I'll reiterate my question from some months ago about the 'noted faculty' - what makes them so notable from an NPOV perspective? Remember that articles are meant to be verifiable, so noted teachers should be limited to folks that have been recognized in some way beyond the MA community - besides being ridiculously subjective, I don't think that being a 'beloved teacher' is notable, nor is starting an oceanography class or having participated in a community art exhibit notable enough for these standards. 
The head of the article is a fine example of what I think should be strived for in the rest of the piece. The rest is really lacking. Lets consider that people who are not involved with Marin Academy at all are reading this article - are all of these bits of information (for instance, which college a previous captain of the soccer team is attending or who the members of the cross country squad are) significant for their understanding of Marin Academy?  Are the lists of student senate officers necessary?  Perhaps listing the current officers would be acceptable, but I haven't found another high school article that contains a history of previous officers. 
Maybe some will think it's harsh to strip names of MA community members from the article, but it is important that they are significant to the broader understanding of Marin Academy from an encyclopaedic point of view. The page doesn't exist to validate some alumni or current students position in the past - get over it. I don't want to keep an edit war going, but I think that the named individuals worth retaining are limited to people like Bodie, current student senate officers and a stripped down version of 'notable alumni' (I'd potentially strike this from the page as well, however it does appear to be common to other high school wiki pages, so I'll begrudgingly tolerate it - still I'd break it down to something like 'Chris Ford and Andrew Hasse ('98) - Filmmakers' or 'Peter Som ('89) - Fashion Designer')
I agree with this other person. Way too much unnecessary information. It is almost like someone is trying to make fun of the school by making the article so unprofessional.  -129.22.98.118 21:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unnecessary info

message: Currently the article is very slanted and needs to be revised.
Mmeyers 01:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed speculation and weasel-wordism.  The article looks to be in better, more neutral shape now.  JDoorjam     Talk 21:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extremely Slanted 

message: Regarding the message left in the Changes at MA section - I am totally willing to believe that MA 'as we knew it' has changed a lot. I think that it was a common complaint from every senior class (beginning before I got there) that the school was changing, that it was 'losing its artistic roots', that each new crop of freshmen represented the 'death of MA'. I'm sure that this trend has gone on, and I don't mean to suggest that there have not in fact been real changes to the attitude and methods of education there. I think that is valuable information, and it can be included in the article, but it needs to be done in an appropriate manner, and according to Wikipedia's guidelines. If there is a website devoted to hating MA (I'd be interested to see a link), maybe that can be included or mentioned to provide evidence for this backlash. I am totally open to criticism of the school in the article, it just needs to be done appropriately (in other words, without bashing people). Cuffeparade 05:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes at MA