Talk:List of people convicted of treason

message: Maybe Karl Rove shouldn't be on here yet, even if i think he is a Traitor, scoundrel, and all around dirty trickster.  He's a bad person.   But, this being a encyclopedia.. should he be on here yet?  has be been formally accused of treason yet?
Right, too soon to label him, to know what really happened. Plus we need to know if he was following anyone's orders.GangofOne 02:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: Benedict Arnold was not a traitor, the colonies owed alliegence to the United Kingdom, so a list of Americans should be included in the British section. Examples: Benjamin Franklin, George Washington. Were they not traitors to their King?
Whether they are to be considered traitors is a point of history.  The facts are that Benedict Arnold was a commissioned officer, a general no less, of the Continental Army (which is not only seen as the precursor to the current US Army, but one and the same) and that he betrayed that loyalty.
This is a List of people convicted of treason  It is not a list of people who are "thought" or "charged" or anything else with treason.  as such I removed the following items.
* Adam Yahiye Gadahn was indicted by a federal grand jury for treason on October 11, 2006 
* John Walker Lindh (not charged with treason) pled guilty to serving in the Taliban army and carrying weapons on July 15, 2002
Robert Hanssen Spy
Benedict Arnold revolutionary War
Jons63 19:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Researching for Treason laws in the United States, I found sources stating that no person has ever been executed for treason against the federal government. Neither the Herbert Hans Haupt or Ex parte Quirin articles mention a conviction for treason, so I am removing Haupt from the list. Jack N. Stock (talk) 14:50, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Breckinridge was indicted for treason a few days after joining the Confederate Army, and declared a traitor by the US Senate, but he was apparently never formally tried or convicted for treason.  He fled to Canada after the civil war ended, and returned to the US under the amnesty given by Andrew Johnson in 1868.  173.228.123.207 (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

text: According to the treason article, they were convicted of espionage, not treason.  Not a big difference, but one nonetheless.--Belgarion89 19:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: At present, this is a list of those convicted of treason. The Rosenbergs were merely convicted of espionage. While she was once arrested on a drug charge (apparently spurious), there does not at this time appear any record of Ms. Fonda having ever been convicted of any crime, much less treason specifically. Abb3w (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

text: This is because of an important technicality. Again, they were convicted and executed for "Espionage"; they were not convicted of "Treason", which US law defines incredibly narrowly. I recall reading elsewhere that prosecutors doubted they could make a treason charge stick since the US was not legally at war; they thus decided that capital punishment via espionage would be entirely sufficient. Abb3w (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: USA

message: What about the husband and wife couple who gave away nuclear secrets to the Reds? Ethyl and somebody somethin? I just can't recall.137.186.248.248 23:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the treason article, they were convicted of espionage, not treason.  Not a big difference, but one nonetheless.--Belgarion89 19:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: At present, this is a list of those convicted of treason. The Rosenbergs were merely convicted of espionage. While she was once arrested on a drug charge (apparently spurious), there does not at this time appear any record of Ms. Fonda having ever been convicted of any crime, much less treason specifically. Abb3w (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

text: This is because of an important technicality. Again, they were convicted and executed for "Espionage"; they were not convicted of "Treason", which US law defines incredibly narrowly. I recall reading elsewhere that prosecutors doubted they could make a treason charge stick since the US was not legally at war; they thus decided that capital punishment via espionage would be entirely sufficient. Abb3w (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rosenbergs

message: This sounds like BS, google turned up a composer, an illustrator and an author
:Indeed, it is BS. Removed. Filthychimp 05:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  USA- Christopher Cote, Traitor to His Half of the Species  

message: As explained in William Joyce, his citizenship was in fact United States up to 1940 when he took German citizenship. He was born in New York to a naturalised father. He was most certainly not an Irish citizen; Joyce was a strong opponent of Irish nationalism in all its forms. Sam Blacketer 16:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  William Joyce 

message: Note to self: add persons from List of trials of peers in the House of Lords. James500 (talk) 19:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: It may be an idea to have a list in date order as well as an alphabetical list. James500 (talk) 19:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: Just removed two people from the United States list because one was listed as being indicted only while the other hasn't even been indicted. As this article is named "List of people convicted of treason," it doesn't seem that either should be listed.
Kaotac (talk) 04:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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message: # Not convicted, only charged.
# It appears from the Carles Puigdemont article that the charges do not include treason.
# Addition of a living person to this list requires reliable sources per WP:BLP.
- Jack N. Stock (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carles Puigdemont