Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 17

message: Modern scholars seem to prefer Rossini's first name with only one 'c'. We are using both versions. Can we fix on the one 'c', assuming there are no double 'c' fans here? Unfortunately this will mean cat changes. -- Kleinzach 02:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Richard Osborne, Rossini himself normally used the one-'c' version, so that's a Yes from me. --GuillaumeTell 08:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, absolutely. We did the same on it.wiki. See also Fondazionerossini.org. Gioachino is the name used by the authors of the critical edition of Rossini's works. --Al Pereira(talk) 06:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good, I have gone ahead with the category change here. --Kleinzach 09:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gioachino or Gioacchino?

message: I've created a topic for this opera and cross-referenced it from Judith Weir. So far I've put in some performance history, references and the characters and original cast. Pity that a lot of red links have appeared. I plan to add the synopsis later. Others welcome.  -- Peter cohen 16:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't wait. Synopsis now included. -- Peter cohen 17:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks excellent. I wouldn't worry about the red links. Are you going to do The Vanishing Bridegroom? --Kleinzach 22:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why, thank you. I don't plan to do The Vanishing Bridegroom in a hurry. I have the libretto and original programme notes for Eckbert which I don't have for Bridegroom. The next article from the list of operas I gave when I first joined the project is likely to be Libuše. I've got a recording with notes and libretto and think it's quite an important opera in its way. But I really must do some of my real work before I do any more wiki. -- Peter cohen 22:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Blond Eckbert]]

message: I registered in Wiki Source and wrote an article (aria) to test how to do linkage  to here but to my surprised, it doesn’t work like WikiCommons. Wikicommons files are able to identify by file names. (Example: if the filename is Verdi.jpg, the photo will appear in any wiki pages without having us to do manual link). I copied “Svegliatevi nel core” to Wiki source and all the hyperlinks in “Svegliatevi nel core”  article (in Wikisource) turn RED. And if I linked that page to Wiki EN, it comes out with tiny arrow at the end of the title name, just link our external links.  I thought I want to write some famous arias in there but now  I think I would rather do it in here (Wiki EN), at least until all these issues have been finalized - Jay 14:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The way you link from a Wikisource page to a Wikipedia page is w:Svegliatevi nel core. The way to link from a Wikipedia page to a Wikisource page is s:Svegliatevi nel core. If you don't want the prefix to show up, you can use the shortcut of piping the link, like this, . What I've done when using Wikisource is to put one of those nice little boxes, indicating that there's a Wikisource material, see, for instance, Gil Brenton and s:Gil Brenton. The template name is . For more in interwiki links, see Help:Interwiki linking. Mak (talk) 14:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kewl, it works. Thanks. I use Svegliatevi nel core instead of s:Svegliatevi nel core to hide the "s". Thanks again. - Jay 15:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's faster to just use the pipe, it'll be filled in automatically when you save :) Mak (talk) 15:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I have transferred  Libiamo ne' lieti calici of La traviata,  Svegliatevi nel core of Giulio Cesare to Wikisource and deleted them from Wikipedia. I also “linked” all hyperlinks in the articles to Wikipedia EN because Wikisource doesn’t have operas, operatic singers, composers and librettists list (a bit troublesome). In Wikisource, I created a template (a small navigation box) says "Return to the source article <main article name such as Giulio Cesare or La Traviata> in Wikipedia." I created the template to make it more “user friendly” to the readers to come back in here after reading the texts. I am planning to write “famous arias” in there, some are new and some are from here. All arias that have been transferred from here will be deleted. Hit the links to see them in Wikisource (aria links only).  Let me know if you have any comments. - Jay 07:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Source link

message: Now that Sacred operas and Satirical operas have been deleted, we only have one major subject category left: Comic operas. Comedies probably account for a quarter to a third of all the 1,600 works listed on The opera corpus, however most of these are in specific genre categories: Drammi giocosi, Farse, Intermezzi, Opera buffa, Opéras bouffes, Opéras comiques, Opéras féeries, Operettas, and Singspiele.
:Category:Comic operas has 70 entries comprising 58 works in English (of which 54 are late 19th century English works, many of them Gilbert and Sullivan) plus 5 Czech, 3 Russian, and one each of French, Danish, German and Italian operas.
The English items, or almost all of them, are closely related in style. Should we rename the category English comic operas? (The others could be removed bearing in mind that operas don't need to belong to a specific (sub) category.) --Kleinzach 07:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: May I point out that a lot of Opéras comiques (Carmen and Médée spring to mind) are not comic operas.  And, as ever, I'd prefer to use terms like "comic opera" only if these appear in the libretto/score (i.e. are so described at the start of the Viking Guide entries).  So a cautious "yes". --GuillaumeTell 09:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes indeed, I believe all opéras comiques are now designated as opéras comiques, so no problem there. --Kleinzach 09:59, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I have now gone ahead with asking for renaming.--Kleinzach 09:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Comic operas]] to ''English'' comic operas?