Talk:The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (novel)/Archive 2

message: Should this character get a mention?  She's Asahina's friend, and one of the actors in "Episode 00".  We could make it at least as meaningful as the Ryoko segment, if not better, methinks. Mekryd 15:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, she seems like a good character to add. She has such a distinctive laugh too. XD --Juhachi 22:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is, I don't know the Kanji, etc. to go with it...Mekryd 02:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsuruya 

message: "The reasons for this stem from the fact that the manga was considerably different from the novel and had little input from the original author."
This is a wrong information, or gratuitous at least. It should be removed if there isn't any firm evidence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.179.39.36 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 29 May 2006 UTC.
:Then either remove it (stating why), correct it, or tag it for citation (which I've done, not knowing the answer either way myself). Shiroi Hane 01:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason the manga was canceled was that the manga-ka was producing a related side h-doujin at the same time. The publishing company was hevily opposed and canceled the manga, pretty much denying its existance. RaptorFB 08 June 2006
===The cancelled manga===
The reasons for this stem from the fact that the manga was considerably different from the novel and had little input from the original author.
That was from the article. But the Japanese Wikipedia says that in addition of having little input from the original author, the artist was drawing H doujinshi of Haruhi at the same time. The publishers were so mad they just pulled the original Haruhi manga off their magazine and pretended it never existed.
I'm posting this here because I don't know where to add this tibit in the article. deadkid_dk 08:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for manga's cancellation 

message: The reasons for this stem from the fact that the manga was considerably different from the novel and had little input from the original author.
That was from the article. But the Japanese Wikipedia says that in addition of having little input from the original author, the artist was drawing H doujinshi of Haruhi at the same time. The publishers were so mad they just pulled the original Haruhi manga off their magazine and pretended it never existed.
I'm posting this here because I don't know where to add this tibit in the article. deadkid_dk 08:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The cancelled manga

message: I'd like to see a section mentioning this. I would add, but I really can't understand the thing at all.--SeizureDog 23:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not really the same, but I mentioned it in the introduction.  Fixed some weird phrasing while I was at it. Mekryd 20:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya radio drama 

message: Airdate #1 is listed as chronological #Unknown. However I believe we can now enhance this information. In Airdate #9, Haruhi wants to take photos of Mikuru - "Pictures for the cover jacket for the upcoming DVD of the movie we showed at the cultural festival, 'The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina.'"
This means that Airdate #1 could have a chronological indicator of : Before Chronological Episode #14.
:I suggusted once before that it could very well be episode 13 in chonlogical order, though it has not been confirmed yet, so for now, it should remain unknown.--Juhachi 00:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So long as we're speculating...  The movie is made in the second novel.  The Boredoem of Haruhi Suzumiya, Mysterique Sign, and Remote Island Syndrome are all in the third novel.  This would place it between the Melancholy arc and the Boredome episode.  That means it's between 4 and 7. Mekryd 01:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But seeing as there is no mention of the movie in episode 8, 9 or 10 (chonlogically), I wouldn't be so sure.--Juhachi 05:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airdate #1 Deduction 

message: I'd like to know where this translation come from? In its orginal Japanese form it only translates to "Asahina Mikuru's Adventure - Episode 00." Anyway I have reverted it. --Leeyc0 12:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just found out that the user who vandalized this page by renaming the episode as Asahina Mikuru's Breastventure is an anon - 202.156.6.54 - who has regularly vandalized many pages, and was temporarily blocked for his/her vandalism, and was given a last warning that if he/she ever vandalized again, should be banned permanently. - Ganryuu 10:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asahina Mikuru's Breastventure - Episode 00 ? 

message: Someone please write up little summaries for the boxes. I'm not too good at that sort of thing, I'm a pictures and basic data man.--SeizureDog 03:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I added some basic summaries open to editing.--Juhachi 04:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Heh.  I was working on some, but I hit refresh instead of submit in my tiredness and instinctive reflexes. ^^;  I tried to reconstruct the changes as well as I could remember them. Mekryd 04:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode summaries

message: Upon clicking on edit this page on the article I noticed a message at the top reading:
This page is 32 kilobytes long. This may be longer than is preferable; see article size.
From what I see with the article size conventions, under "Rule of thumb" it states:
> 30 KB May eventually need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size; this is less critical for lists).
Should we consider spliting this article or leave it alone for now?--Juhachi 23:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's not really a significant part yet that we could split, I think.  Perhaps after all the episodes air, we can see if that section is long enough to stand on its own.  There's not much media information, as most articles get split that way first.  Right now 32 isn't so bad, and sometimes articles just won't have a logical split.  --Crisu 01:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Methinks the character section, with a bit of work, could be brought into its own article.  We could even use that character section for the novel series, as they all share the same characters, designs, etc. Mekryd 02:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And then perhaps with enough input we could also supply differences between the novel and the anime (and the manga if we chose to include it).--Juhachi 05:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All right; sounds good.  ^^  So should a move be done now or until the anime finishes airing?  Again, 32kb right now isn't so bad, and leaving the section here will make editing more convenient as new anime eps reveal more character information.   --Crisu 06:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only real difference I can think off the top of my head is that Kyon was the one with his finger on the shutter when they went to 'obtain' a computer.  We should leave the article intact until we decide what to split, and then wait until it's large enough to make its own article.Mekryd 13:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article size 

message: See Wikipedia:Trivia. This article is focusing too much on its trivia section which we shouldn't even have in the first place. If you want to add trivia take it to the SOS wiki, but leave it out of here. The entire trivia section has been moved here for references while we attempt to merge some of the more relevent trivia back into the article. But do NOT create another trivia section, this encourages too much irrelivent info to be added. If we begin to have articles for each episode, then a trivia section can be had in them, but the main article must remain trivia free. --SeizureDog 20:21, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to be excessively pedantic, but WP:Trivia isn't even a guideline, but an essay. That said, I think that creating an episode guide article and putting the trivia therein would be a great idea. --moof 20:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True enough, but when a trivia sections gets to be over a page long then it's just getting to be way too much. --SeizureDog 20:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with the idea of including it in the episode article, should we split it. Mekryd 20:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and done this. Whee! --moof 21:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The trivia section