Talk:Twister (game)

message: The "Twister and Excorporation" appears to be original research so I am going to delete it. I am aware that other parts of this article are not perfectly cited, but this section looks like someone has taken the ideas of John Fiske and synthesised them with information about variations of twister. If someone can provide a reference to this section please restore it. Not Worth Waiting For (talk) 16:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: There are some questionable things in the article, mostly in the history section; where are the sales figures, etc. coming from, and who exactly called the game "sex in a box"?
Anyone have ideas?--Crazysunshine 07:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea. But why isn't the Weird Al song Twister mentioned in here? mike 19:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that there are quite a few questionable things in this article.  My uncle is actually one of the inventors, so I have talked to him a bit about the TRUE story behind Twister.  This is where I got the story about his meeting with Mel Taft.  I hope to get more information so that this could be a reliable resource.  Reynolds Guyer has been claiming that he invented Twister for years now, and my uncle and Neil haven't gotten the credit they deserve.  I hope to help remedy that - even if it's only online. 66.168.28.168 14:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's also very much NPOV.  I don't disbelieve you, but "my uncle said" is not a citable source.  I've therefore reduced the history section to the bare facts that can be determined from the patent, i.e. that Mssrs Foley and Rabens invented Twister.  If you want to restore the rest, particularly the sections making claims about Mr Guyver, then please be prepared to cite sources, or I will feel obliged to keep removing anything contentious and flag the section as libel if it persists.  Again, to be clear: I don't disbelieve you, but Wikipedia needs to cite claims, not make them.  Note carefully that what is required is an external source that makes those claims and which therefore accepts the liability for doing so.  If such a source doesn't exist, then you could create it yourself (accepting responsibility for the consequences), and then cite it.  What you can't do is to use Wikipedia as the primary source for making those claims. Rogerborg 10:17, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Guardian has an article with extensive quotes from Reyn Guyer and Mel Taft [here]. Mr Taft says that his sales manager said: "What you're trying to do there is put sex in a box".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.171.3.126 (talk) 05:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced statements

message: Couldn't we get a photo of people playing real twister or at least a photo of the box? ·:RedAugust 10:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got the game, I might take a picture of it tonight. Would a photo of the box be considered fair use? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 12:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, need a new picture98.197.243.41 07:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Twister owes its success, according to The Playmakers, to Johnny Carson and Eva Gabor's playing it on the Tonight Show.  See: here.  I don't think the preceding website is appropriate for a citation and I don't have a copy of The Playmakers to get info/verify the quote.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.98.161 (talk) 18:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who is "Andrews-McMeel"? BMK (talk) 00:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: From its website it appears to be a newspaper syndicator and publisher of calendars, and only incidentally a book publisher.  What kind of peer review or editorial review did you do when you were putting the book together for publication? BMK (talk) 00:28, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Other questions: who owns the copyright on the book, you or the publisher?  Of the material which you added to the article (which I removed because it was not properly sourced), how much of it was verbatim from the book's text? BMK (talk) 00:30, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

text: Excuse me, please don't misrepresent the company, or assume that I am an idiot.  I read the website thoroughly,and it's clear that publishing calendars and newspaper syndication is their primary business, not book publishing.No, you cannot put anything verbatim into a Wikipedia article -- except for short quotations -- whether or not you own the copyright, but a more serious problem is that it appears to me dubious that Andrews-McNeel can be considered to be a reliable source as we define it, especially since you self-published it first (we don't allow the use of self-published books except for extremely limited circumstances} and then A-Mc republished it.  This means that the book has had essentially no outside editorial supervision, no peer review, no fact checking, all are which is required to be considered a reliable source.In any event, you were apparently told before not to add material from your book to the article yourself, and I'm going to repeat that advice now.  Not only do you have a clear conflict of interest in regard to your book, but since you wrote it, and edited it, and published it yourself before it was republished by a publisher with an unknown reputation for accuracy, anything you add would be considered to be original research, which we do not allow.  You need to step back, and not add the material to the article again. BMK (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

text: Please read WP:GREATWRONGS.  Anyone who comes around here proposing to tell get "the truth" into articles doesn't have the right take on Wikipedia.  Please don't peddle your "truth" from your essentially self-pubished book any more, your edits will be reverted. BMK (talk) 04:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History expansion 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: I have tagged this for suspected copyright violation because part of the contribution made that day did infringe (see section immediately above this). Even if it did not infringe on the source documents, it was drawn directly from a website, here, as was the song from here (already removed). This leads me to some concern that other portions of text have also been copied, though I have not identified a source. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  CV Unsure

message: This language has no place in a neutral article: "Typically, people who exhibit high cultured tastes Encompass more diverse ideals..." This entire paragraph is original, specious, subjective, and largely irrelevant. I recommend deleting it entirely.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.15.102.164 (talk) 15:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subjective judgment 

message: My feeling is that Twister should not be italicized, in the same way that "chess" and "go" and "poker" would not be italicized.  It may be a trademark, but it's not as if it's a video game title or computer game title, or a work with story elements associated with it.  Thoughts? Robert K S (talk) 01:44, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italicization?