Talk:Pastoral counseling

message: I am proposing that Biblical counseling and Christian counseling be merged here. Both are very short (particularly if the former is shorn of its excessive WP:PRIMARY-sourced material) of doubtful notability, on the same general theme as this article. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 07:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *I would agree 100 percent that Nouthetic counseling is part of Pastoral counseling.  Jay Adams himself says that "a Christian minister is counselor and preacher, par excellence."  And while I am a student of Nouthetic counseling and believe it to be unique, it is still a form of Pastoral counseling.  I also believe that, only those familiar with Nouthetic counseling will search for it on Wikipedia, while those unfamiliar with it will benefit from its presence under Pastoral counseling.  In this way, users will have a chance for themselves to evalute and compare the different forms of counseling. Timmillr 13:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

text: *I would disagree with the proposed merge. As a woman I cannot be a pastoral counselor, but I can certainly be a nouthetic counselor. The Bible speaks of all believers who are walking with the Lord as being 'able to admonish' or competent to counsel. Let's not narrow the category to 'Pastoral' rather leave Nouthetic Counseling as a seperate entity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.212.150.5 (talk) 11:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *Why can't a women be a "pastoral counselor"? Many denominations allow women "ministers, rabbis, priests", let alone "other persons", so there would appear to be no hard and fast restriction. And if you disagree with "Pastoral counseling" as the general term, what would you accept? Because there is simply not enough coverage here to support multiple articles. Would you prefer Nouthetic Counseling to be deleted? Because that's the alternative. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 15:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

text: *Comment - Good point. What about merging Biblical counseling (which seems to be strictly Christian as used) into Christian counseling? Even if pastoral counseling is different (both more and less broad in different aspects), Biblical counseling seems to be a subect of Christian counseling. Novaseminary (talk) 03:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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