Talk:Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign/Archive 1

message: I am fairly certain these have been moved from April to June to accommodate the top-tier candidates' schedules. Twalls 05:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 Presidential Debates in NH

message: Shall we incorporate his campaign tour in the article. Id est Ron Paul was to New Hampshire before his announcement later touring to Arizona and now upcomming Iowa. Lord Metroid 19:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? Just keep it objective and encyclopedia quality please. JLMadrigal 12:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Campaign tour? 

message: Is Paul Mulshine notable enough to be included under endorsements? What are his credentials? JLMadrigal 12:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea, I don't know who Paul Mulshine is, I don't even live in USA... But the article seemed to portray Paul Mulshine in a light of importance in the journalist scene so I added him. Maybe, he shouldn't be mentioned? Lord Metroid 18:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It probably would be best to omit him, unless you create a subsection for journalists. JLMadrigal 12:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Mulshine  

message: The article says that the first debates will begin at 5:00PM EST on May 3rd. Is this correct? Elsewhere it says 8:00 EST JLMadrigal 11:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Debates  

message: Should the Youtube interview with James Kotecki be included on this page? It is, after all, pretty historic. 134.84.100.80 06:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In what way is it "historic"? MrZaiustalk 09:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is an interview by amateur press using the internet as it's publishing medium. Dunno if it should be included but James have become fairly notable from what I understand.. Lord Metroid 13:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Youtube and Ron Paul

message: First MSNBC ignored the results of their own poll then they admited them but down played them.  Then ABC left him off of their poll and then down played the results after he shot to the top when they added him in.  I'm thinking if this sort of media black out continues that maybe it should have a section detailing the behavior of the MSM  -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  08:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not to.  If the media blacks out Ron Paul, shouldn't it be exposed to the world here on Wikipedia? Life, Liberty, Property 18:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: AGREED! Every major magazine and online "news" source seems to include the handful of Republican candidates EXCEPT Paul every time they talk about polls, positions, or potential winners... 199.214.24.132 22:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Sounds reasonable... Although I am a little bit afraid that it would only be tabloid like speculations and doesn't classify as encyclopedic material. Lord Metroid 18:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately, there are alternate news sources that meet the reliable source criteria and that watchdog the main news sources. I've added one. www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/070507ronpaul.htm] GarryKosmos 21:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Info definatly needs to be added. Here's another source.  --Ted87 05:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media Black Out 

message: The narrative on Ron Paul is bigger than this narrative even though it is suppose to be a summary. Information needs to be transfered. Lord Metroid 07:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of narrative 

message: Looks like Ron Paul's going to get a lot of press over this one. Here's one for starters:  Xuanwu 03:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: CNN has covered it some: . And another source that may or may not be reliable: [www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834249/posts]. Xuanwu 03:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that would be a "not", as for reliability of freerepublic.com.   Tvoz |talk 03:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks. It's why I'm listing them here rather than adding them right in. For one, we'll need to organize what needs to be said before posting it in to root out POV. Another source:  Xuanwu 04:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this story will get some "normal" news coverage, since Giuliani is a part of it, so maybe wait for sources that are mainstream? Tvoz |talk 04:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 15 Debate 

message: It seems that we should probably include something about the remarks between Guiliani and Paul in the May 14th debate.  I'm not exactly unbiased, so I really don't trust myself writing anything myself.  It seems heavily commented on by the pundits though.  DeviantCharles 03:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm posting sources above. Feel free to contribute some as they emerge. Ron Paul is getting a lot of attention (both good and bad)! Xuanwu 03:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: CNN contributor Roland S. Martin has an excellent article about Ron Paul's controversial debate comments here. Title: "Paul's 9/11 explanation deserves to be debated" --JHP 02:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul vs. Guiliani 

message: The article is decent now, and it's longer than some other presidential candidates' campaign pages.  The expansion tag was placed on it awhile back, so I'll take it off now.--Gloriamarie 03:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still need to look at the debates - there is a separate article on the debates and probably some of the stuff in this one should be removed with a pointer to it.  Tvoz |talk 03:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What article is that-- on the debates?--Gloriamarie 21:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion Tag

message: I read on the internet..I believe it was a blog..that Ron Paul, candidate for president of the U.S., was a close associate of the anarcho-capitalist Murray Rothbard. Is this true? Anyone have a solid reference for this? After reading this, I'm recognizing a lot of Rothbard influence in what Paul says. Paul sounds like a near-anarchist. Ansetropen 06:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I remember reading that awhile ago as well. However, Paul is not an anarchist - He is a minarchist, or at least something close to it. Granola Bars 14:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I have no idea of their association or what-not but considering Ron Paul ran for President on the Libertarian ticket in 1988. He and Murray could very possibly have met. It is however clear that Ron Paul does promote one small government organization system(Minarchism) as he speaks about issues such as immigration for example. However it is impossible from what we have heard him speak of whether or not he finds the idea of free-market based competing government organizations(Anarcho-capitalism) appealing or not. Of course Murray Rothbard and Ron Paul's ideas are quite similar as they both subscribe(d) to Austrian school of thought in economic theory founded my Ludwig von Mises. Lord Metroid 13:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ron Paul and Murray Rothbard

message: A bit large, don't you think?  I couldn't figure out how to amend the size in the infobox - adding "image size" doesn't do the trick. Could someone please scale it down to standard size? thanks Tvoz |talk 08:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that a better picture could be used-- this one is too large and an official picture would seem to be more appropriate.  --Gloriamarie 02:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  need help re-sizing photo - it is way too large 

message: Cookies prevent users from voting in these polls more than once-- if I go to the pages of the polls, I just get my end results, not the original poll that I can still vote in.  So, I removed that sentence.--Gloriamarie 22:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CNN/MSNBC polls

message: How about some info in the article about how much money for the campaign has been raised? I don't have that information, so if anybody does, please add it. Free gifts 18:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not until he formally endorses.  However, these facts can be mentioned.--Gloriamarie 20:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How much money has been raised?

message: Can Bill Maher be named as an endorser? He's called Ron Paul "my new hero" on his national TV show, and he is a MySpace friend of Ron Paul's, on the front page. Jive Dadson 22:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not until he formally endorses.  However, these facts can be mentioned.--Gloriamarie 20:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bill Maher

message: I think we should include something about how Ron Paul said how he couldn't believe that the other republican candidates weren't even willing to take the nuke option off the table.  It seems pretty notable.--DeviantCharles 23:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include nuclear option stuff 

message: He's dead. He died before Ron Paul's presidential campaign even started. Should that quote be moved to somewhere in the main Ron Paul article?
I don't know if it fits into the main article, but I have removed it along with the Reagan quote.  I added that section for comments by current observers of the campaign.--Gloriamarie 02:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milton Friedman 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:RonPaulAmericanConservative.jpg

message: Can he be considered after this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_y79uDkcPI ? Casey14 01:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joe Scarborough 

message: First, just to clear up any possible misconceptions, I am leaning toward supporting Ron Paul in the primaries. The election is still quite a ways off in the future, but he's my favorite candidate at the moment. That being said, I feel that this article is significantly biased toward the pro-Paul side. The polls section seems to mention only the polls in which Paul has done better than his average showing, and the fundraising section also mentions mainly Paul's successes and not his failures. I would appreciate it if editors could keep in mind that this is supposed to be an encyclopedia article, not an advertisement or endorsement. -Etphonehome 20:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me thank everyone who contributed to this article for reminding me of why I can't say the word "Wikipedia" IRL without giggling. I also managed to get a good laugh from the spectacle of self-proclaimed Libertarians engaging in a Stalinist whitewash. 58.107.102.215 17:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral point of view? 

message: Shouldn't we need a source for pretty much every one of those endorsements? Granola Bars 05:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Endorsements