Talk:Lee Carroll

message: This talk page is for discussing improvements to the article on Lee Carroll. i have removed a section of religious/spiritual writing, that is not sourced and is thus not a candidate for inclusion in the article. Any further information on Carroll's channeled messages should be accompanied by sources indicating their notability, from neutral references not associated with Carroll or Kryon.76.245.46.141 (talk) 05:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Purpose of talk page

message: Publishers have a vested interest in making their authors seem as important as possible, and in exaggerating sales numbers; that's why bestseller lists (however flawed) compiled by third parties are so valuable. Likewise, conferences such as the one referenced are inclined to republish information about their speakers provided to them by the speakers or their publicists, if it makes the speakers  look more important. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but I don't think it's enough to fully discard a reference. Article should provide information available from various sources, and legit publishers do seem to qualify, as well as the conference. We are not speaking about establishing a world record of book sales, or entry into a country-wide official best-seller list. -- Nazar (talk) 22:22, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: By definition, material which is not from a reliable source has no place here. This entire article is plagued by the problem of the use of dubious and unreliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I contest. The article subject is not mainstream, therefore, one should not expect "excellent quality" academic encyclopedic sources. The sources provided do qualify the minimum requirements for this class of articles. No reason to discard information provided by third parties. Vested interest may or may not be present, and may or may not override the source's natural interest to provide reliable information. Assumptions used as base for removal venture too far into original interpretations. -- Nazar (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that this article is covered by not just WP:FRINGE but by WP:BLP. I disagree with your argument that these sources meet the minimum requirements. Dougweller (talk) 06:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think any legit publisher would provide fake information about the volume of publications. Moreover the conference, which is an independent event organized by third party. Also, for most independent authors the publishers are the primary source for the volume of published books. I can't really imagine any totally independent organization gathering that kind of information on thousands of particular authors. I find many top mainstream articles here on Wikipedia, where the information on the volume of sales etc. is taken from the publisher's statements (because in most cases this is the only available source for such information). Also, the information about the number of separate publications from the conference agrees with the information from the WorldCat listings for Lee Carroll. I find the use of arguments by opponents above highly captious, motivated by personal prejudices, and not contributory to building a versatile and full coverage of topic in the article. -- Nazar (talk) 09:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of some of the most dubious sources; more needs to be done here 

message: There is an 'undue weight' tag on the channelling section of the article yet I see no discussion of that section here. There is no record of what is undue or why. Span (talk) 18:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Undue weight' section tag

message: * Potency Matters by Colombe Marie Van Stokkum. Infinity Publishing, 2004. , 9780741421548
* "Jew Age: Jewish Praxis in Israeli New Age Discourse" by Marianna Ruah Midbar and Adam Klin Oron (a PhD candidate in the Department of Sociology and Anthropology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and also a member of 'Ascending and Descending' research group at the  Scholion Interdisciplinary Center for Jewish Studies). Journal of Alternative Spiritualities and New Age Studies. Vol 5, 2008
-- Nazar (talk) 20:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for consideration 

message: a friend just showed me the definition of this term, I think it defines me to almost DNA....45 and just accepted my "gifts" I had ignored them, and the universe was unhappy w/ me, sick as energy couldn't flow.
SO I have no teacher, but am healing with white light , and can clean auras, take people on meditations with me, some "peer to peer" talking mind to mind, also the clairvoyance of last few weeks
is like I am in tune with something amazing, so beyond this plane, this planet.  Its so new and im reaching out ty!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apossibleindigochild (talk • contribs) 02:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  looking for information