Talk:Usher (musician)/Archive 1

message: Readers,	 
	 
Usher does not in any way condone this page or check its contents. Do not leave messages here, as there is absolutely no chance that he will ever read them or respond. If you feel that the corresponding article could be improved in some way, or if you have any questions about how you can improve this article, you may leave a message here. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TUF-KAT (talk • contribs) 02:25, 10 November 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Message to readers

message: A friend of mine living in Dallas, Texas informed me that Usher was actually born there, and moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee very early on. He says he had a look at a copy of Usher's birth certificate, and knows which hospital in Dallas he was born at (forgot the name). How true is this information? --FuriousFreddy 01:01, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dallas, Texas]] 

message: How did he see Usher's Certificate?
:I think it was on public record or something, accesible through a website. I'll ask him about it later tonight. --FuriousFreddy 00:36, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Did He? 

message: If it can't be confirmed where Usher was born, it should just be left at Chattanooga, Tennessee. Phoenix2 22:24, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth

message: This article needs serious cleanup, from tag fixing to grammatical errors and such. Ohyeahmormons 13:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: why is this at Usher (entertainer) instead of Usher (artist) or Usher (singer) ?? if there is no (reasonable) objection then i will move it.. (or someone else can..) ~Bungalowbill
He is also a dancer and an actor.Therefore an entertainer.
:You would never know he's a dancer from the article. -- 98.108.195.145 (talk) 07:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

message: As per WP:NCP, should this page be moved to Usher Raymond? Though he is commonly known as simply "Usher", only "Usher Raymond" meets the naming conventions. In WP:NCP, it clearly states that the name shall follow the format <first name> <last name> which simply "Usher" does not follow. Please reply if I am misunderstanding the naming conventions. Thanks!
Soliloquial 02:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move?

message: I was wondering if we should include Usher's unreleased albums, "Sex Appeal", "And The Winner Is..." and "All About U". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.181.105.229 (talk) 01:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreleased Albums 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Myboo.JPG

message: Hey its says that the album is sceduled for release this mounth which seems now at least impossible, not even a single has been released yet so clearly though wont be an album til 08. Realist2 09:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just deleted the extra ! as they are strething the screen & really unneccessary. Mahalo. 70.108.96.29 (talk) 00:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  album release date 

message: In this section, there is the clause not only, but the 2nd part of the clause isnt there thsu the sentence is incomplete.  Since the page is locked I'm unable 2 do anything.  The sentence needs to be corrected. Mahalo. 70.108.96.29 (talk) 00:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fix the confessions section

message: Does anyone else see an issue with the release date for Here I Stand being listed in this article as a tentative June 8,2008 release? How Likely is it that it would not be a tuesday release? Making it June 10 or June 3 in retro. Can someone verify and clean this up?Jjkayes (talk) 12:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Here I Stand Release Date

message: Is he one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.84.108.12 (talk) 21:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientology 

message: Please dont add every little of every little think he does over the next few months. Most of it is not a major aspect of his life and is recentism. --— Realist2 (Come Speak To Me) 22:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism 

message: I have merged US Records here because as an independent subject, it is not sufficiently [[WP:N|notable], seems unimportant except in reference to Usher, fits well in this article, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere to make it worth waiting for more content.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Records 

message: 'truly one of the best artists of this decade' is subjective, and not factual. In addition, there is no mention of which particular decade (to say one of the best of this decade would only be relevant in the 00's and based on his work in that decade)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.166.87 (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subjective Language 

message: As far as I know, the Billboard list is based on singles sales and do not contain any subjective opinion. So "inducted" hardly seems appropriate - it's just a ranking. 143.89.188.6 (talk) 15:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wondering too when I revamped the article. Changing it now. Thanks for raising the concern. --Efe (talk) 07:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Inducted into Billboard list?

message: Usher has another child from a previous relationship the child's name is Davidson, it is mentioned in his song 'Charelle'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.228.90.9 (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Confessions

message: He rose to fame in the late 1990s with the release of his sophomore album My Way
What on earth is sophomore album? According to Wikipedia, "Sophomore is a term used in the United States to describe a student in the second year of study (generally referring to high school or university  study)". SO WTF has this to do with Albums?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.120.222.220 (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: sophomore album

message: Due to the (overall) disappointing commercial performance of Here I Stand, Usher is planning to release a new album in early 2009.[64] - A few questions, is the new album coming specifically because the last one had low sales? Second, can we just delete this. We are now into April and there has been no news on a single, let alone a album. Nothing will be released for quite some time it seems. I certainly thing the biography needs to mention the sales of the album (and it's singles) were low by Ushers standards. Not just lower than Confessions but lower than earlier albums too. However it still sold a few million, it wasn't a "flop" realistically. — R2 02:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New album.. 

message: "In 2001, Usher began dating former T.L.C member Rozonda "Chilli" The one who he always wanted to date heer since his child years.  Thomas who had previously had a child with producer Dallas Austin, and her son."
Is something wrong with me -- what does this mean?  Usher was dating both Chilli and her son? Hrhadam (talk) 20:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear? 

message: i have no idea what so ever how to use wikipedia
i got ushers riaa certification
dont know how to put the in the discography.
acordding to http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH_RESULTS
usher got 7 pltinum awards
usher got 15 gold awards 
you may want to check the website, i couldn't understand it properly  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.11.136 (talk) 19:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need help with Usher singles 

message: While it is true that Usher served as a mentor for American Idol in March 2010, this was a professional activity.  It does not belong under the heading "Philanthropy."  It would be more appropriately placed in the "Career" section. 76.26.134.161 (talk) 12:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropy 

message: There are questionable sources used in this article. Due to the nature of the person (entertainer), of course he will appear in a lot of gossip and blogs, but these are not considered reliable sources. We should make a conscious effort to stop using these in the future and removing current unreliable sources from this article. King Ruby (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable sources 

message: "Usher is one of the most successful and talented artists in the history of music" , this article claims. As source for this a celebrity fan site is provided. Furthermore, the article from which this is taken states at the bottom "Biography courtesy of Wikipedia". Seriously, WP?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaiay (talk • contribs) 15:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Positive 

message: If there is anything you wanna say regarding questionable sources than make them here and ill either remove it all together or find a more reliable source. But please do not say the page needs more citations because there's one after almost every sentence. Please add citations to help improve the page. However Ushers page has been reviewed as a good article by the administrators. So please don't add false needs for the page. We shortened the introduction. Have made any necessary changes. Or requested changes that have proven to be accurate. I will check the talk page daily and will make any requested changes but please until the administrators say the page has as many issues as many of you have claimed please don't add anything to the page requesting a check of sources, a shortened introduction, or anything at all. Edit the page and make contributions you feel needed as long as it is NOT vandalism please. Thank you Texasmade2010 (talk) 16:21, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listen up 

message: usher was born in chattanooga tn and attented dalewood middle school. and even has a parkway named after him  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.234 (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: DO NOT remove Usher being named the top singer of the decade. Like for Beyonce who was named the top female artist and diva of the decade Usher was named by Billboard Magazine the top singer of the decade. He is ranked ahead of every other top singer of decade and there is an article congratulating him on being the top singer of the decade. Don't edit it. Thank you.Texasmade2010 (talk) 15:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Top singer of the decade

message: Is this article for real? The introduction is more biased than the singer's own website. Every sentence is simply a showcase for his achievement. The writing quality is extremely poor, as are the quality of the sources. Article needs a major overhaul. Orane (talk) 05:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you no longer believe it is GA material, you could have it reassessed? It could certainly do with some work. — R2 12:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV/clean-up tag

message: Usher has nine number one singles on Billboard Hot 100, as OMG hits number one.
Kellizle (talk) 16:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I know personally that this has happened, but as per WP:CITE you will need to provide a reference that proves your statement. Try the Billboard Hot 100 site, if there is one. Please then make another edit request with the sentence you've just written and the link. Hope this helps. Thanks. Chevymontecarlo. 16:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Kellizle, 5 May 2010 

message: someone removed him selling 45 million albums worldwide. please put that back. heres a reliable sourcehttp://www.emimusicpub.com/songwriters/usa/usher/index.php JohnnyCalifornia4Life (talk) 08:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Career album sales

message: OMG has already ranked on 1st in Billboard's Hot 100, and on Billboard's Hot Digital Song! Put it on!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.79.251.132 (talk) 02:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: About his newest single OMG

message: Please change "Five Killers (2010)" under Filmography to "Killers (2010)" because the name of the film is "Killers", not "Five Killers".
Sophiateoh (talk) 07:48, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . — ξxplicit 08:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Sophiateoh, 8 June 2010 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Usher (entertainer)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Newrelease":
From Versus (Usher EP): 
From Raymond v. Raymond: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Usher (entertainer)]] 

message: This is a new part in the song instead of honey got a bootie like pow pow pow honey got a boobies like wow wow wow . it is Ernie got a bootie like pow pow pow ,Ernie got some boobies like wow wow wow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.63.249.42 (talk) 02:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  new part in song 

message: I shortened the international success of OMG to make the lead shorter but kept all the need material.ScottieAngelo (talk) 03:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Success 

message: is he the greatest rnb singer today?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.141.47 (talk) 01:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  is he the greatest  rnb singer today? 

message: Please change Usher's birth year from 1973 to 1978.  He is 31 years old.
Chalkdrawings (talk) 06:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks, Stickee (talk) 10:01, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Chalkdrawings, 19 August 2010 

message: I see how people mind using album sales and single chart positions on Ushers lead section despite them being used frequently on others articles lead sections. Alicia Keys articles tells how much her albums have sold. On Chris Browns article it mentions all his major hits. So please they should be allowed on Ushers lead section as well. The lead is also suppose to show the major successes of an artist. Whether it be singles or albums as a whole. I'm aware Usher has achieved a lot more success than almost any other artist of his generation so it takes up more space than usual but still I feel it should be included. Please discuss this here on the talk page. Thank you-Melody Prince$$ (talk) 11:56, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding chart data 

message: Will a page be made for his upcoming OMG Tour. Tickets are already on sale.calvin999 (talk) 23:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: OMG Tour

message: There's some websites that said he was born in Dallas, but others said he was born in Tennessee, several entertainment websites offer different places. I remembered Allmusic had dallas for a while before changing it to Tennessee, IMDB has Dallas. I think Tennessee is correct, but we need to be accurate about this. Nither I would use as a reliable source for his birthplace. Could the Dallas source be old vandalism that was kept for years? Where he was born in acually, and no usher fan websites sources aren't a reliable source nither. This page is filled with unreliable and dubious sources such as Rnbmusicblog.wordpress.com, Planet III, FMQB Zimbio, Entertainment Weekly and blogs.bet.com, and overreliance on billboard (which is reliable but 80% of the sources come from there). I'm thinking about delisting it. We need an interview source or something. Secret account 23:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Dallas is correct. Usher is listed in the Texas Birth Index - here and at Ancestry.com. Maybe that's original research, but NY Daily News '99 also says Dallas, so that's a source. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 18:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: As I added to Raymond v. Raymond please add the album selling four million copies worldwide.72.178.94.184 (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worldwide sales 

message: Since Usher is a singer, I believe his voice type should be included in the article. (Tenor, Baritone, etc)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.118.152 (talk) 01:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: nothing special :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TampaGMKid (talk • contribs) 23:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice Type 

message: Usher has won seven Grammy awards to date.
Sunset entertainment news. Third paragraph
http://sunsetentertainmentnews.com/2011-grammy-award-winners-pre-show-awards-to-jay-z-john-legend-others/
Kellizle (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 23:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Kellizle, 14 February 2011 

message: Please change: "To date, Usher has certified sales of over 45 million albums worldwide" to " Six albums later, with global sales of more than 65 million units, Usher remains on the roster" because of the recent article in Hollywood Reporter dated 2/9/2011. 7th paragraph
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/justin-bieber-cover-team-strategy-97658
Kellizle (talk) 20:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We're certainly not going to change it to what you suggest because that would be plagiarism. I'll leave it to someone more familiar with the topic whether this should be updated or not. -Atmoz (talk) 03:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Kellizle, 15 February 2011 

message: Please change: "Usher has sold a certified 45 million albums worldwide" to "Usher has sold more than 65 million albums worldwide" because of an article in Hollywood Reporter 2/09/2011. 7th paragraph
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/justin-bieber-cover-team-strategy-97658
Kellizle (talk) 04:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Kellizle, 16 February 2011 

message: Regardless of whatever anyone thinks of the quality of Justin Bieber as an artist compared to Usher - and I agree that at this moment in time the latter is leagues beyond the former in every respect - the clear ignoring of the effect of Bieber's success on Usher's own career and the absence of any discussion of the seriousness or ramifications of the mentor relationship with respect to Usher's own life/career in the main article can't help but appear as a prejudice on the part of wiki-editors of this article. It's glaring. Bamboom2 (talk) 19:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  underselling the bieber connection 

message: But he sold 65 million records. Records = singles + albums. Look at the albums when you put it together it is something like 30 million and the hollywood reporter' link is talking about records not albums.
That's why wiki has no credibility, so many people are wrong or do it on purpose. Be professionnal.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.201.215.172 (talk) 11:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Usher never sold 65 million album

message: Usher plays in the movie "Takers" not "Killers"
Please change this.
THANK YOU!
108.4.4.88 (talk) 21:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: according to IMDb he's in Killers, not Takers. Do you have a source for this information? — Bility (talk) 23:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 108.4.4.88, 18 April 2011 

message: Can you please add Justin Bieber: Never Say Never to Usher's filmography section. Thank you! Kansas212 (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request from Kansas212, 23 April