Talk:Bodice

message: :::--PKM 02:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The definition of bodice,
A bodice is an article of clothing for women, covering the body from the neck to the waist
does not match the two illustrations provided. Neither bodice goes anywhere near the neck.
--174.16.19.14 (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a disconnect between the historical useage of the term, which matches the first sentences of the description, and the current SCA/RenFaire-esque use for the vaguely corsetlike item shown in the images. Could be made clearer. - JRBrown (talk) 19:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I just read the article, and I'm still not clear what a bodice is. Boneyard90 (talk) 22:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bodice definition needs fixing. 

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message: The redirects  and , which currently target the bra article, have been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#Bust bodice. Input from editors with knowledge of this subject area would be most welcome in the linked discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 10:03, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bust bodice 

message: Greetings - I came to Wikipedia to get information on "bodies" (two halves, a right and a left, make one garment, hence the term "pair of bodies"). But was re-directed to this article. The bodies were a precursor to the pair of stays which was, in turn, the precursor to the corset, but this article implies that "bodice" means "bodies", which I did not know. 
Nearly all dresses have a bodice, a structure that runs roughly from the shoulder to the waist, depending on cut and style, and can encase a woman's torso. The purpose of the bodies was to support a woman's breasts, I believe, but I don't think they totally encased the torso; they probably left the upper chest wall and upper back free, save for possible straps. This article seems kind of mashed together and is muddy about the differences and purposes of bodies vs bodice. I want to know what bodies looked like, how they differed from stays, and when they were in style (15th? 16th? centuries). If you have this knowledge, please sharpen up the article and provide the information. Pictures would be a big help, if possible.
In your comments on lacing, you left out "ladder lacing". Example: A woman named Morgan Donner, who does historical sewing, used ladder lacing on this garment - http://www.morgandonner.com/2017/06/laurel-gown/
Thank you for your anticipated help, Wordreader (talk) 06:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bodice vs pair of bodies.