Talk:Clarinet

message: Taken from this version, with annotations added inline. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Analysis of the proposed addition

message: 1. Section “Clarinet family”: Addition of the contra alto clarinet
2. New section “Tuning the clarinet”
3. New section  “Sound effects”
4. Review: At the end, review the whole article and check whether the layout is optimal or whether the sequence of individual sections should be changed -  Gisbert ツ (talk)   Illustrate Wikipedia !   15:15, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do-list to improve the rest of the article 

message: we have a red link Clarinette omnitonique. Is it a definable concept? If not, then the redirect should be done or red links to be unlinked Estopedist1 (talk) 15:58, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I googled and found this: https://www.metmuseum.org/blogs/of-note/2014/ivory-clarinet - Special-T (talk) 00:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarinette omnitonique 

message: — Assignment last updated by DarthVetter (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Composition I - Writing Wikipedia

message: The article in question has been tagged as an WP:REDUNDANTFORK for a bit. I'm wondering if that notice should be removed (and we keep the articles as is) or if we should decide to either merge it here or unmerge Clarinet#Clarinet family. Why? I Ask (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Of those options I think detagging would make most sense. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Clarinet family]] article – Any support to merge or unmerge? 

message: I think that the recently added section on Maintenance is unencyclopedic, largely trivial, and falls under the category of "how-to" information.  Its content can mostly be summarized by saying, "if not properly maintained, things might not work correctly", which is true of anything. Special-T (talk) 14:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Suggest its removal. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added as part of a school writing project, I deleted it, and my deletion was reverted by someone else from that school project.  I tried cleaning it up, but I still think it doesn't merit keeping.  So I'm deleting it again. - Special-T (talk) 14:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree - I think it was a useful addition comparable to the piano section of the same name - Piano#maintenance. The specific type of maintenance and process of maintenance was well-described, furthermore. Would like to request bringing it back and working to improve the issues noted by @Special-T. - Matthewvetter (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Nikkimaria since @Special-T and I were both involved in the edits. Would an RfC be more appropriate to get additional feedback? Thanks! - Matthewvetter (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to let other editors weigh in & decide. I've stated my opinion & I'm not interested in edit warring. - Special-T (talk) 18:47, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

text: Absolutely, you could open an RfC on the question. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maintenance section 

message: I'm re-reverting a recent string of edits.  The statements are uncited, and, in some cases, are inserted into a sentence with an existing ref, implying that the statement is supported by that ref. - Special-T (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you join the discussion here rather than restoring the disputed content, please? I agree that it is problematic to insert content around existing refs when that content is not supported by those refs - it creates a significant problem around verifiability. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited additions 

message: Given the recent dark clouds here recently, I've made a modest copy edit in the materials section around plastics and composites, and when they came about; however I stopped short of explaining why one would make clarinets from plastics: cheaper construction and durability for student/band/outdoor use, and less maintenance due to such materials not requiring oiling or being subject to drying out and cracking, etc. This was mainly due to a lack of a handy source; I will have a go at adding this when I get home later; I know there's something in either the Cambridge Companion or the Yale book. This will also neatly cover off one of the points in the contested "maintenance" section above, without it being a how-to. Cheers — Jon (talk) 04:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Materials 

message: @User:Nikkimaria Yesterday I added a new section to the article with the heading "Famous clarinetists of the 18th and 19th centuries". I believe that WP readers who would like to learn more about the clarinet should also have the opportunity to learn about the history of the clarinet and its most famous protagonists.
You deleted my addition to the article without giving any reason. WP-WAR: "When reverting, be sure to indicate your reasons. This can be done in the edit summary and/or talk page." You did neither the one nor the other.
I ask that you reverse the deletion or post the reasons for it here so that the community can discuss it.
To everyone: the deleted section can be viewed here. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)   Illustrate Wikipedia !   13:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Gisbert, as indicated in my edit summary, your proposed addition is UNDUE. This is not an appropriate venue for mini-biographies of a few of the many noted clarinetists - their articles that can be linked from the existing List of clarinetists. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:36, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The list of clarinettists includes more than 300! The vast majority of them will probably no longer be mentioned, say, 20 years after their death. The ones I have listed with a short biography have all been dead for more than 100 years, but are still famous in the clarinet world for their special achievements. And they will still be listed in current encyclopaedias 200 years from now. I therefore consider it necessary and appropriate to briefly introduce these personalities to readers of this article who are not familiar with the clarinet and would like to find out more. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)   Illustrate Wikipedia !   23:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's neither necessary nor appropriate to incorporate these biographies here - most of the full articles are already linked within this article anyways. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of a new section in the article