Talk:Joseph Prince

message: I think this page seriously need a re-write as it contains non-neutral tones and seemingly self-promoting style of writing. Whoever wrote this article should rewrite it in a more encyclopedia-style - just the facts, without the fluff. I am inclined to remove some of those fluff.Atticuslai 09:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks much better. Now all we need is more content. Atticuslai 05:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Need major re-write

message: I mean no disrespect to Joseph Prince, but I have concerns about whether or not he is notable enough for a Wikipedia bio, per WP:BIO.  This article needs to have information from reliable sources confirming that he is notable outside of his immediate community.  I'm willing to give the article a bit more time to breathe, but if people just keep deleting the tags, then we should probably nominate it for deletion and let the community decide. --Elonka 16:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I support the call for deletion of this article. Atticuslai 02:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Right, and if he's just a pastor, he shouldn't have an article on Wikipedia.  See WP:BIO.  In order to be notable enough to be "encyclopedic" there need to be reliable third-party sources which prove that the individual is "famous."  Newspaper articles, magazine articles, books about him, that kind of thing.  If those can't be provided, the Wikipedia article should probably be deleted, or the information should be merged into some other article. --Elonka 10:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Depends on the kind of source, and what kind of information it's providing...  If he was a primary Guest of Honor at a major conference, that would help to establish notability, yes.  If the source is just saying that he was an attendee or speaker though, then it wouldn't be as helpful. Show us what you've got? --Elonka 19:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  (followup) After further researching it, I stand by my opinion that Joseph Prince is not notable enough for a separate Wikipedia bio at this time.  However, I do think it's worth having a paragraph about him at the New Creation Church article.  I recommend merging the information from the Joseph Prince article there for now, and then the name "Joseph Prince" can be setup as a redirect to the Church article.  If he becomes more individually notable in the future, meaning known outside of Singapore, it'll be easy enough to re-establish a separate article. --Elonka 21:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think it is best to merge the article with the Church's. Joseph Prince currently lacks the notability. Atticuslai 23:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

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material was pasted in from http://admpreview.straitstimes.com:90/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2f0e3114209cc110VgnVCM100000430a0a0aRCRD&vgnextchannel=016fe84edfbf8110VgnVCM100000350a0a0aRCRD
It needs to be rewritten.87.231.185.157 (talk) 09:37, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright problem removed

message: I'm new to editing. Found ref 3 (The Straits Times article) to be invalid/not live; however, I found a live link to a pdf of a Singapore Sunday Times article (http://www.tmc.org.my/documents/pjp.pdf) that covers the same topic. I do not know how to edit the reference, though. 
I will figure out what to do and will later update the article as needed.
traveller1209 21:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Need to update reference section

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message: Would be nice to know what, if anything, Joseph is notable for theologically (ie. what are the major themes he teaches on or insights that are unique or largely promoted by him?).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.202.37.121 (talk) 10:28, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theology? 

message: does no one have any reliable source on Prince's birth name? and from my perspective, Xenonamandar seems more like an urban legend to be true. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 04:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Dawkin Verbier Mandela Effect here. It just needs a false rumour to start something and circular referencing and everyone started thinking it is so. In the early days of the article, there is only 1 source which is via a forum. Someone added to wiki and started circular referencing and it seems like Xenonamandar is his real name. Probably only the government and himself will know the truth at this point of time. Since it is personal information, until we see verified legal documents of birth name or name change, it will stay as a rumour. JASWE (talk) 02:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth name