Talk:E-flat minor

message: I believe Rodion Shchedrin's first symphony is also in this key but am not sure?  (And Romanian 20th-century composer Dmitri Cuclin's 9th or 11th- the 11th, I think, I believe the other is in A minor- is in A-flat minor, but that's for that page.)  Egon Wellesz's 2nd is officially "in E-flat" - like many a 20th-century tonal work, no mode specified, only key - but Bruckner-influenced and basically minor-mode-centered in both of its sonata-form outer movements until near enough their closes. Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd never heard of Dmitri Cuclin before. (Then again, few have heard of a Romanian composer besides Enescu). Where could I sample his music? Anton Mravcek 20:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks. Unfortunately, I couldn't connect to the Romanian radio station. It kept timing out (I'm on a T1 connection in Illinois). Anton Mravcek 21:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: E-flat symphonies

message: it dosnt sound ight so i edited it and it was composed by martin O donnel
--Spartan117009 19:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  halo theme 

message: Is it worth expanding the discussion or at least the list, to collections of similar (but not nearly identical, of course) movements - especially by (a school of) composers, etc. - in keys that for them were less usual? For instance-
*Schumann (Robert, not Georg about which composer there is as yet no article, etc) - Feierlich fourth movement of the Rhenish symphony
*Brahms - Mesto movement from the trio for violin, horn and piano (the early Scherzo in E-flat minor, op. 4 is related to a different sensibility, in some way that needs to be defined and spoken of purely using the facts- of course...)
(Perhaps also the Mesto third movement in Alexander Glazunov's symphony no. 8.)
(Of course, what keys have meant, and also may have meant, to composers- A minor the 'exotic' key in the classical era, ... ... &c &c &c ad infinitum ad nauseum - is a hoary topic discussed into the ground in the literature over the centuries.  (Alfred Einstein notes how carefully Mozart avoids using some keys for any length of time, even transposing Bach fugues in the KV 404a set to "easier" keys- not something one needs to do with so very much with string players. If he did write/transcribe/... that set, that is...)
Put to you for your consideration... from the Tentative Zone. Schissel | Sound the Note! 16:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Substantial movements in E flat minor

message: Unless the consensus has changed, here's the style guidelines (not rules) regarding use of italics  as against quotes in lists within articles (I was mistaken about this, it turns out!): Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles)#Italics Schissel | Sound the Note! 20:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italics and quotes 

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