Template talk:History of Hungary

message: There seems to be a gap between 1920 and the immediate pre-WWII times. Is there an article adequately covering this era? Miklós Horthy is a good candidate, but an article about a person wouldn't look very good in the History of Hungary series... KissL 07:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And don`t forget Magna Hungaria and Yugra too! Avaring 12:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Know what? Throw in the History of Sumer too... Avaring 12:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gap after 1920

message: HoT was itegrant part of History of Hungary in June 3, 1920, but wasn't a day later?!? I can't understand this! History of Kosovo will be erased from the Serbian history ( = History of Serbia) one day after its independence will be proclaimed? We will place it under an "other" section???
I'll give you another example. Let's suppose in virtue of some miracle Transylvania would be under to Hungarian suzeranity again ... so in this case this short intermezzo (the Romanian rule) would be considered something similar to the 150 year Ottomans rule (neverthless, this is my personal POV), and the history of the land will be also reattached to the History of Hungary, in Wikipedia? And a new article will be created "Romanaian Hungary" ... Funny, isn't it? 
Or in 1920 Romania also procured the right over not just a land, economy, etc but over the history of the land backward, however has nothing to do with Transylvania in the predecing millenium?? --fz22 15:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, it's vitally important to the History of Hungary, but that section of the template is chronological from Pannonia to the current Republic of Hungary. Where does HoT, which covers from the 5th century to the present fit in that order? It doesn't. History of the Jews in Hungary and Military History of Hungary (both important to Hungarian History) also don't fit into the chronology, because they also cover a broad time range. If there was a History of Budapest it would also have to fit in the "other" section, although it would be just as important as HoT. So even if Transylvania were re-attached to Hungary, it would still fit in the "other" section because it's the whole history of a part of hungary, rather than part of the history of all of hungary. Erted? - TheMightyQuill 20:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, if you want, that's fine. It would be better if there was a separate Principality of Transylvania article, but until that time, this is fine. It might not please the Hungarian nationalists though, as it gives the impression that this was the only time Transylvania was part of Hungary. - TheMightyQuill 20:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Transylvania, part II. 

message: Okay, you guys want to talk about this? I think normally, stub articles are not included in templates. If the History of Hungary article doesn't have a subsection about the Hungarian Democratic Republic, it's kind of weird to include it in the template. It's an important piece of Hungarian history, but considering it lasted less than half a year, how much is the article realistically going to grow? Then again, the Hungarian Soviet Republic only lasted a month or so longer, and it has a fairly decent article. Pannonian, I think if you channeled your efforts into expanding the article a little further, you'd have a lot less trouble convincing everyone that it deserves to be included in the template. Then the History of Hungary article could include subsections on each period. - TheMightyQuill 01:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. Stub articles and red links do not get included on templates. The importance of the topic is debatable(if it deserves inclusion on the template or not in the end), but we can have that debate when there is a decent article to talk about. Also the space on the template is limited it can not be extended for every 1 sentence article you create. Hobartimus 04:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After all, belongs to Hungary's history. No deletion.--Non-profit organizations 16:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you elaborate on what qualifies this under-stub quality article to take up precious space on this important template? Can you give other examples of red-links, non-articles being on important templates before they would be developed into any sort of half-decent status? Also notice that are a lot of stuff that is Hungarian history that is not on the template even with a developed article. Hobartimus 17:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hungarian Democratic Republic]] 

message: 09-Dec-2008: I have added subheaders above as "Topics from 2006" (etc.) to emphasize the dates of topics in the talk-page. Older topics might still apply, but using the year headers helps to focus on more current issues as well. Afterward, I added the title to the untitled topic "Gap after 1920".
Then I added "Talk-page subpages" beside the TOC. -Wikid77 (talk) 00:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Retrofit topic year headers/subpages

message: 09-Dec-2008: To allow the infobox "Template:History_of_Hungary" to be aligned and stacked on to the related infobox "Template:History_of_Croatia", then traits of the infobox must be changed by passing parameters. New parameters are:
:* boxclass=infobox - the CSS class of table (default: infobox)
:* boxwidth=220px - the width of the box table (default: 205px)
:* marginleft=0.1em - the width of the margin outside the left edge of the box (default: 1.0em).
:* marginright=0.1em - the width of the margin outside the right edge of the box (default: 0.0em).
Other parameters might be needed for further use of the infobox in more articles. The above parameters can be used when stacking along with other infoboxes along the right-side of a page. -Wikid77 (talk) 00:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New parameters boxclass, boxwidth, marginleft, marginright

message: I could infer no particular reason for the various styles of emphasis given to the topics listed, and have unified them. If there is some purpose to the use of emphasis, perhaps someone would explain it. Thanks. -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 23:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Emphasis: bold, italic, or none

message: Its a original research and synthesis. It was a Royal Hungary and Habsburg Hungarian kingdom. Its 2 different things. Its no sources about term "Kingdom of Hungary (1538–1867)" http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Kingdom+of+Hungary+%281538%E2%80%931867%29%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&hl=sk In this time it was not used term Kingdom of Hungary but a Royal Hungary. Its 2650 hits about Royal Hungary (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Kingdom+of+Hungary+%281538%E2%80%931867%29%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&hl=sk#sclient=psy-ab&hl=sk&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22Royal+Hungary%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Royal+Hungary%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=135729l139409l0l140199l15l13l0l0l0l3l250l1930l1.11.1l13l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=ca7f4cea4f4eb571&biw=1680&bih=839) so it deserve an own article. And almost 900 about Habsburg Hungary: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Habsburg+Hungary%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&hl=sk --Samofi (talk) 12:45, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The title was different and nothing else. It was a Habsburg Kingdom from 1538(1526) to 1867. The rulers liked to use "Royal Hungary" instead of "Kingdom of Hungary" till the end of the 17th century. I can not follow you.Fakirbakir (talk) 12:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Kingdom of Hungary (1538–1867)

message: Google Books results: 7180 for "conquest" vs 51 for "Landtaking"
It is not importnat how the original article is named. For example Carpathian Basin is widely used on Hungarian articles, even if it is only a redirect to Pannonian Basin Jaro88slav (talk) 11:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungarian Conquest vs Hungarian Landtaking 

message: Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#inclusion of prehistoric terms in history of country templates and vice versa. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Pannonia 

message: Sorry, I have written wrong summary at my last editing. you can find the ongoing discussion about proper dates at talk page of Talk:Kingdom_of_Hungary_(1538–1867)#1538. Fakirbakir (talk) 13:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ongoing discussion