Talk:New York State Department of Environmental Conservation

message: It seems that website policy http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/577.html is incompatible with wikipedia. Is there any way how to use its content? --Snek01 (talk) 21:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, paraphrase it and cite it properly. As you would any other copyrighted resource. Daniel Case (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website not public domain? 

message: This page should also cover the NYS Conservation Department, and whatever preceded that.  There is so little information about Forest Rangers, and what they do, like maintaining trails.
My brother was on the Blue Fox Search and rescue team, and there's virtually nothing about that.  I do know it [Blue Fox] was patterned after the California group "Sierra Madre Search and Rescue team".  They were called in [to NY] on a search and the state was so impressed with them that they started their own team.
Also there's little or nothing about what went into the decision to have Rangers carry guns.DavidHenrickson (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's reliable sources with this information, please put links or other info here. I'd love to have a more detailed history of the predecessor agencies. And more stuff about the Forest Rangers (actually, and I can speak from personal experience here, a lot of trail maintenance is done by private groups). I wrote the most perfunctory outline I could a few years ago because I was linking to this so much, and I'd love more info. Daniel Case (talk) 02:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is woefully incomplete 

message: Much of the information here is four or more years out of date.  Please, can we work to update some of these sections? Bearian (talk) 17:51, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates to February 2014 

message: Basil Seggos, deputy secretary for the environment in Governor Andrew Cuomo's administration, has been nominated as DEC Commissioner, subject to legislative approval (Conners, "New DEC commissioner faces hard choices ahead," Poughkeepsie Journal, 10/6/2015). DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  DEC Commissioner 

message: Abobersky (talk) 16:30, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: References

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message: As an entity contained in the NYS DOE, it makes more sense to include the article on the police division with the NYS DOE in general. Much of the material is either already covered here or should be removed (e.g. tedious details about uniforms), so what is worth merging won't blow it up much. Apocheir (talk) 00:40, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose, given notability as the "oldest state-level police agency in New York, having evolved from the state's game wardens in the late 19th century"; it would also unbalance the target, even with the selective merge proposed, and so readers are best served by having this page remain separate. Klbrain (talk) 03:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Oppose, for the reasons above; as noted it predates DEC as an agency. Material on uniforms is also actually rather common in articles about law enforcement agencies ... i.e. the Sillitoe tartan that the Chicago and Pittsburgh police are unique in wearing among major-city police departments, New Jersey state troopers being the last major agency in the English-speaking world to wear Sam Browne belts, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's distinctive red dress uniforms, and so forth. Daniel Case (talk) 04:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Oppose, agree with above. It or its predecessors have been around a long time. The proposer seems to like to declare articles non-notable and then discreetly merging them without any discussion on the talk page or warning to the various wiki projects or significant contributors to the article.Patapsco913 (talk) 18:10, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Police]] into [[New York State Department of Environmental Conservation]]