Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. states/Archive 2

message: Because most states have a somewhat unique culture, I'm considering adding a <B>"Culture"</B> heading to the U.S. States that will enable the incorporation of information about everyday life in the various states.  Such information might include notes about distinctive music, foods, festivals, and traditions tied to geography and climate.  For example, the Louisiana culture section might include a discussion of the Cajun and Creole lifestyle.  Utah's would emphasize the role of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  Hawai'i's would focus on the cultural traditions of the ethnic Hawai'ian people.  Kentucky's might discuss the role of bluegrass music.  I might make "professional sports teams," where applicable, a subset of the broader "Culture" section.
: Generally I would discourage the idea. Louisiana can link to Cajun in  a see also. Ditto for Utah, although LDS gets discusssed in History. Hawaii is a unique case, and probably gets a link to the article about the Kingdom of Hawaii, which needs a culture section. If needed, you could also discuss its culture (with a heading) where the template shows Miscellaneous Topics. Thanks for the thoughjts! Lou I 16:38, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Header Culture? 

message: I'm not sure what to do with the "25 richest places."  Most of these rich places are rather small communities.  I wonder why they didn't include the "25 poorest places" too for a sense of balance. User:Dufekin
I agree, anonymous. How are the 25 richest places in a state important?  And if we are all going for the trend of wealth, why not balance it out with the 25 Poorest Places in Blank?  And I personally do not think that it should be a link anywhere either.  I guess if it had to be in there, it should still reside in Important Cities and Towns; it definitely does not fit the state Economy or statistical Demographics.
--Iamunknown (Talk)08:55, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Another vote for dropping the Richest places. My sense of balance is not offended, since we don't list smallest towns to make up for important cities but going strictlty by census zone demographics tends to pick out small suburbs. Beter to just drop the idea. Lou I 16:25, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  25 Richest Places in Blank 

message: I'm attempting to obviate the need for a template under discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Template:Current U.S. Senators by creating a standard template, perhaps one for each state, similar to Template:CO-FedRep.  I started an initial discussion about this at Wikipedia_talk:Avoid_using_meta-templates#Templates for federal representatives by state, since one way to do this would be by using a meta-template.  This is not exactly about the state articles, but seems sufficiently related that folks who watch this page might be interested.  
#Is this the right forum to discuss this idea (anyone have any better ideas)?
#Assuming yes, can we reach a consensus that a template such as Template:CO-FedRep has sufficient value that it's worth generalizing this to all states?
-- Rick Block 04:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you people who were discussing it on the other page have a rough consensus that it should be moved here, then move that talk here and leave only a link there, so people aren't jumping back and forth and commenting both places.  Gene Nygaard 13:19, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: This is my preference as well.  The issue with this approach is that any change to the central template requires the software to trundle through all 50 templates and all articles including any of these templates (presumably 535 of them) marking them as uncached.  If the total number of references (direct or indirect) is in the multiple tens of thousands range I'm absolutely sure this would be a problem.  In this case, I'm not so sure. -- Rick Block 01:44, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How many times are we going to change the central template? My prediction is 10-20 edits  the first two weeks. Then may be one edit every other week. It is not likely to be a great performance issue. --DuKot 05:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  template for U.S. federal representatives 

message: The template on Georgia (U.S. state) links to Flag of Georgia, but the real place it should go to is Flag of Georgia (U.S. state). Can this be fixed? Felix the Cassowary 13:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, although it's moderately painful because the template implementation provides no mechanism for supplying default values for parameters.  Perhaps the most straightforward solution is to add a new parameter to the template to be used as the link and edit all 50 state articles to supply this parameter.  I'll do this.  -- Rick Block 14:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. -- Rick Block 15:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently this was unfixed as I just subst:ed the template to make it work after someone complained to the help desk. Please figure out what went wrong and make the code look pretty again. WAvegetarian (talk)  (email)   (contribs) 23:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Georgia 

message: As a side effect of fulfilling requests for country flag manipulation, state flag icons are now available.  For example, Alaska with an "AK" label is generated by .  Alternatives such as  can be created; one has to tell the template the name of the flag file ("Alaska_flag_large.png"), the name of the Wikipedia article ("Alaska"), and the text label ("AK").  The alias tables used by {(tl|country_flag}} may be of interest for other templates. (SEWilco 21:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  State flag icons 

message: The related articles American Empire, History of Minnesota, National Football League and Space program of the United States have been listed to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. To support one of these articles you can add your vote there. Also, Rodgers and Hammerstein is nominated at the Biography Collaboration. --Fenice 07:15, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement Drive

message: I'm requesting comment on a WikiProject on North Dakota.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  --AlexWCovington (talk) 06:50, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User talk:Alexwcovington/ND Wikiproject proposal]]

message: I propose that Puerto Rico and other US posessions (like Guam, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands and etc.) should have the State infobox template instead of using the country infobox template since they are not independent countries. You can see that Puerto Rico has an USPS abbreviation as PR, and an ISO 3166-2 code as US-PR. See http://www.mindspring.com/~mjfriedman/countrysubentity.txt for more information  or ISO 3166-2
There is a current dispute happening in the Puerto Rico article. We need your advice and consensus to solve this issue, I remember seeing a user mention that US Territories should use the State infobox with some exemptions like "date of annexation" and etc. Have a happy holidays!  --68.235.131.36 02:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puerto Rico