Talk:André the Giant

message: Billed height is what he was billed at, not his actual height.
He was 7'1 peak and 6'11 near death  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.46.5.155 (talk) 02:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: if he had an hgh secreting pituitary tumour,probably an acidophil adenoma, he would have continued to grow throughout his life. Toyokuni3 (talk) 15:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

text: It is original research and cannot be added.Halbared (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

text: "...that's the tallest he could have been."  Sorry, you are incorrect.  Curvature of the spine (scoliosis), only one of Andre's health issues, can reduce height by several inches depending on the severity.  I have had mild scoliosis for 10 years and am only 47 but I have already lost an inch and a half of height - and I was only 5'6" to begin with plus do not have the osteohyperdensity that Andre had.  Scoliosis can not only affect posture and prevent one from standing up straight for height to be measured, but even lying down or measuring a body or skeleton would not reveal what his height was at its peak.  History Lunatic (talk) 17:37, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Two of the three refrences cited in the current revision of the article have him at 6 ft 11 in, but the article shows 7 ft 4 in instead.--99.232.1.160 (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  andre's height 

message: This A&E Biography on him says that he was born in Molien.  70.49.241.126 (talk) 02:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a wrong information, He was born at Coulommiers at the hospital (about 20 km of Molien). His mother never came to Grenoble, so it's impossible for him to be born in Grenoble....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.35.171.149 (talk) 03:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

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message: The picture in the infobox needs to be changed because it isn`t the greatest picture.  Mr. C.C. (talk) 21:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but it is free.  If you can find us a free picture that is better, by all means upload it to Wikimedia Commons and replace the current one with the new one.  Powers T 12:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What about http://i.imgur.com/2VgvT.jpg? Twipley (talk) 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What is that image's copyright status?  Powers T 12:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unknown, for all I can tell. http://www.tineye.com/search/a489dff26756e30bc627456c34e3e68092ecfdc2 Twipley (talk) 00:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Picture 

message: We have a problem on wp:fr about the birth place of Andre the Giant. Could you give an answer  even in english. Thanks.... Mikeread.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.3.231.47 (talk) 13:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help ! 

message: Considering that André was born and raised in France and AFAIK there's no evidence he either spoke Bulgarian or Polish, or ever wrote his name in either of those languages, and also considering that this is the English Wikipedia, is there any particular reason the Bulgarian and Polish transcriptions of his name shouldn't be deleted from this page? Thefamouseccles (talk) 14:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish and Bulgarian? 

message: The Early Life section starts by saying that "As a child, he was referred to by his parents as Dédé and showed no signs of the size that he would reach"; his size isn't mentioned during the rest of the section, and in the next section he embarks on his wrestling career. When did his gigantism take hold? Presumably before he started wrestling, but it's not clear from the article. While I'm at it, do they have "8th grade" in Belgium? Was the farm he is said to work on owned by his family? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 13:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Acromegaly usually begins with the onset of puberty.  History Lunatic (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  When did his illness take hold? 

message: Andre was being billed at 7'4 before he ever met the McMahon's so that part is false.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.218.29.253 (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: André might well have been billed as 6'10" in 1969, but don't forget that he had gigantism and acromegaly, and that he was only 23 in 1969. His growth pattern was anything but normal and it's quite possible he might have put on another few inches after 1969. Thefamouseccles (talk) 01:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  andre's billing 

message: His condition seemed more consistent with acromegaly than gigantism. The two conditions are easily confused due to the fact that they both cause a person to grow very large, however acromegaly is a serious health problem while gigantism is not so serious. Acromegaly would have likely been the cause for his various health concerns and contributed to his his eventual death. Back and heart problems are very common amongst people suffering from acromegaly, but not so much gigantism.
70.69.129.43 (talk) 21:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gigantism? 

message: Do we have to use "8th grade" for someone who isn't even in the American school system? How about just listing his age when he left school.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.50.247.145 (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: " Roussimoff was billed as "Géant Ferré", taken from the name of a mythical French giant, "
This requires citation - I can find no documentation of a mythical French giant under that name, nor do any native French individuals of my acquaintance know of any such figure. "Géant Ferré" appears to be a mild pun on the name under which Andre wrestled in France, "Jean Ferré", particularly as the French for "Iron Giant" would actually be "Le Géant de Fer".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.61.39 (talk) 06:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mythical French Giant? 

message: I don't get this feud-business. Wrestling is a show sport, so how can you feud if the fighting is make-believe? The career-section is written as if actual competitions is going on.
On another note, this article: http://www.drunkard.com/issues/10_06/10_06_andre_giant.html, bills André as one of the greatest drinkers in history. I can't vouch for the provenance but if it's remotely true, I think his capacity for drink deserves a mention. //roger.duprat.copenhagen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.138.244.225 (talk) 21:04, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feuds? 

message: Andre the Giant's WWE.com alumni bio says he weighs 520, can I change it to that? I have a source here @ http://www.wwe.com/superstars/andrethegiant.
WWE is not a reliable source they clearly exaggerate heights and weights --Apemonkey1 (talk) 07:41, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andre's Actual Weight 

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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:André the Giant]] 

message: He's born in Coulommiers, Seine-et-Marne 1 (Internet Wrestling Database), 2 (IMDB) and 3 (Wrestlingdata). It's talk about this in André the Giant larger than life a documentary.--Sismarinho (talk) 09:53, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: "When André underwent surgery in 1987, his size made it impossible for the anesthesiologist to estimate a dosage via standard methods; consequently, his alcohol tolerance ("it usually takes two liters of vodka just to make me feel warm inside") was used as a guideline instead.[73]"
THe source clearly states that this was just a legend.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.39.114 (talk) 02:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  False information 

message: "Roussimoff began making a name for himself wrestling in the United Kingdom, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and Africa"....I don't know but I don't think there's a country called Africa? Bobbyshabangu talk 13:04, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Africa 

message: Yes but, me I read French and I know what it is. I just sent a message to the WWE to tell them to correct that on their site. I don't know if they speak french so I translate it a little for them. Maybe they will correct it, maybe not. We will have to wait. And findadeath is not a reliable source since they have the death certificate from the mairie de Paris and they put in the beginning of their article that he died January 27. Obviously the guy don't understand french and he don't know that "vingt-huit" means "twenty-eight" in English. Thanks. --Danielvis08 (talk) 04:47, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Daniel. I'll need a couple of days to get to this because of work — it's going to be complicated since we're dealing with a primary source that contradicts secondary sources. But I think it can be phrased in a way that addresses both. In the meantime, I'd like to see if we can find a contemporaneous newspaper account — maybe a French newspaper that reported on his death. The date of the paper would be significant. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I just saw that you've translated the death certificate ... merci! ... and http://www.cineartistes.com/fiche-Andr%E9+The+Giant.html now is a secondary source that has Jan. 28. I think this might be easier to address than I thought. I'll go back into it tomorrow. With deep regards, my colleague, -- Tenebrae (talk) 02:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And if you click on "Autres" in the page of André The Giant in Cineartistes.com you will see that my friend Philippe Pelletier has insert his copy of death certificate that he asked at the townhall of Paris... you click on "Autres" then on the act itself to enlarge it... Thanks. --Danielvis08 (talk) 18:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking through contemporaneous obituaries, and I think you'll find this interesting: The New York Times obit doesn't give a death date! It only says, "died this week". Continuing to look around.... --Tenebrae (talk) 21:41, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

text: CBS Sports biography says, "died of heart failure some time after lying down in his bed on January 26, 1993," which shows uncertainty there, too. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

text: Some more. The Los Angeles Times obit says, "The exact time of his death was not immediately known." I'm really wondering where "January 27" originated. Because as you show, the death certificate says "January 28." I wonder if it was January 28 in France but because of time-zone differences it was January 27 in the U.S.? --Tenebrae (talk) 21:51, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

text: Where I can we run into difficulty is Andre the Giant's official website, run by his estate. The official biography says born in Grenoble, France, and "died in Paris, France in his hotel room on January 27, 1993." We're going to have to find wording to address the discrepancy. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

text: A capsule obit in the British paper  The Independent, date February 8, is the earliest one I've seen that gives January 27. That seems to disavow the time-zone hypothesis. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a site in english that in the beginning said he died January 27 but in the middle of the page there are 2 paragraphs written at the right of the photo where Andre holds a stone. On the second paragraph it tells that he died January 28... http://www.thehistorybomb.com/articles/2015/1/28/this-week-in-wrestling-history-the-world-loses-its-giant  The confusion must have come that André visits Paris the 27 to attend his father's funerals but he died the 28 in his hotel room and if you want to contact my friend who has his birth certificate he tell me you can contact him via his talk page on wikipedia in french or you can e-mail him, he will show you his death certificate and can translate it for you if you don't believe me. I told of you and he said it'ok if you want to contact him. Thanks. --Danielvis08 (talk) 22:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably he went in his hotel room the 27 and when they knocked at the door the 28 to take news from him he doesn't answer so they must had thought something was wrong so they broke the door at 20 past 6 p.m and they found him dead...so if they don't know when exactly he died they on the death certificate they put the earliest time it was SURE he was dead...when he was discovered dead at 20 past 6 p.m. on January 28. --Danielvis08 (talk) 22:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like also attire your attention on the first name of his father on his death certificate... STOEFF, it's sound not great like BORIS from what WWF claimed... you see when I was young when we watched wrestling at TV they said that Abdullah the Butcher came from Africa, in fact I discovered later he was born in a small town in Ontario...--Danielvis08 (talk) 22:57, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering if the best way to approach this is through a formal WP:RfC. Even though we have a secondary source with a copy of the birth certificate, I think making the change based even on this thorough discussion would be controversial. I think, given that we have the death certificate itself, that a solid case can be made for Jan. 28 and that the Jan. 27 date was error possibly originating in The Independent and then repeated through the years. Does this sound like a practical plan? --Tenebrae (talk) 22:24, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: This article fails to mention any and all celebrity endorsements. I know that Andre appeared in Honey Comb cereal commercials in the US in the 1980's. Did he have any other endorsements?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:C002:D83A:B1E7:90BF:B521:F467 (talk) 23:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celebrity endorsements 

message: His daughter inherited it?
But I hear she went bankrupt?
Does she still own it?--Apemonkey1 (talk) 07:50, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who owns his farm now? 

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message: Why is the date formate -Use mdy dates- when this is an article about a French person?Halbared (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date format 

message: This seems like useful information, albeit of minor importance.  I was watching an old re-run of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson with actor McLean Stevenson.  At some point McLean pulls a newspaper clipping out of his pocket that advertises an upcoming match of Andre's.  Carson and McLean don't discuss him by name, but discuss his physical proportions from the article which McLean holds up for the camera.  It is clearly a picture of Andre, maybe even the newspaper image with arms spread open already on his page. The episode featured Stevenson, George Carlin, Gene Hackman, and Gloria DeHaven and originally aired on March 21, 1974.  Although Andre was known regionally in wrestling circles, this is possibly the first time he received any national exposure.  Is this likelihood significant enough to include on Andre's page?Zeusnj (talk) 10:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  First national T.V. mention in U.S. 1974?  (though not specifically by name) 

message: The 2020 biography by Hébert and Laprade (2020) is very clear that André did not consider himself retired at the time of his death: "he couldn't imagine himself doing anything else [...] retirement would have bored André to death (p.383). Please do not reinsert this claim without a contemporaneous source of André announcing his retirement. McPhail (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Retirement" 

message: How on earth would a French country boy acquire a love of cricket in order to discuss it with Samuel Beckett?  That can't be true.  Of course someone may have claimed it, but an extraordinary claim should be reported as a claim rather than a fact, surely. Aredbeardeddwarf (talk) 09:28, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cricket 

message: 89.178.40.189 (talk) 19:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The "billed height" field shows the height wrestlers were announced at, as real heights are pretty much impossible to ascertain unless you have access to medical records or similar. McPhail (talk) 17:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

message: Why did his (dead) body get shipped to USA for cremation? Was that (cremation) not possible in France? 2A02:3035:418:2D01:2:2:9828:AE5E (talk) 02:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: From the Hebert/Laprade book: "Andre wanted to be cremated, but there was no crematorium in France large enough for him [...] They finally found a crematorium that could take care of him in Pinehurst, North Carolina, near his home." McPhail (talk) 08:33, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why body to USA? 

message: Reference #2 is dead, not found on webpage. No archive linked. 210.1.196.233 (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link ref. no 2 

message: Why is he referred to as Rousimoff throughout the entry. Other wrestlers e.g. Gorilla Monsoon and Hulk Hogan, are referred to by their ring name. 92.40.218.172 (talk) 22:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   Name