Talk:Vilnius University

message: I must say that I like this article the way it is. I must also say that I'm quite worried by the latest additions by Zinvibudas (). Could someone explain to me:
* Why should we translate all names to Lithuanian, even if those people did not speak that language nor were they using Lithuanised names? I understand that translating foreign names is common in Lithuanian language, but this is English wiki, not Lithuanian.
* Why should we change perfectly working links to already-existent articles to non-UTF compliant links to non-existent articles?
* Also, is adding more POV to this article really necessary? I mean mostly the deletion of the word Poland wherever possible, deletion of mention of the repressions against the university community in 1940 and so on.
I understand that our honourable friend Zinvibudas has his ways, but could someone ask him to discuss his edits before he starts yet another revert war? Halibutt 10:55, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
This is not English wiki. This is an international wiki and belongs as equally to me as to you. It would have NEVER exceeded 1 million article threshold were it not for the contributions of people from all over the world.--RokasT 13:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert war 

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Whenever this page gets unprotected again, this nice image from Commons should be added. u◦p◦p◦l◦a◦n◦d 19:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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message: Surely not the oldest university in Eastern Europe, since the Jagellonian Unversity in Krakow is at least 100 years older?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Krak%C3%B3w
Krakow is in central Europe, not Eastern! Lithuania is Eastern Lithuania.
:Not according to the map of Europe as stated by the U.N. Dr. Dan 02:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest University in Eastern Europe? 

message: Would anyone be interested in uploading a better version of the logo than the current one? I could provide it in a lot of formats, including small PNG (with white background), PS or SVG (converted from PS).
my contact address: rimas.kudelis -AT- cr.vu.lt
:By all means, please do so. We welcome all contributions!-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The Polish name for this institution is irrelevant in the lead. I left in Stefan Batory (as it is relevant). Whatever historical information concerning VU and Poland is relevant, can be added to the article. And P.P., just curious, was Wroclaw "returned" to Poland or "transferred" to Poland, in 1945, (just like you I don't want weasel wording used either). Dr. Dan 16:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say transferred (it's neutral) - just as Vilnius/Wilno was transferred to Lithuanians in 1939. But since this article states Vilnius was returned, I guess we should be consistent...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevancy 

message: After Soviet invasion of Poland (1939), Lithuanian language programs and faculties would be established. What happened to the existing Polish language programs and faculty? Otherwise, an interesting article! PS. Other possible issue: the Marshal of the Crown, Kazimierz Lew Sapieha was supposed to become one of the sponsors of the university. As it is written, it suggest he was one of the founders - but 1) I cannot find information about 'Kazimierz Lew Sapieha' who lived in 16th century nor about one who was 'marshal of the crown'. There was however Kazimierz Leon Sapieha (Leon=Lew) who lived in the first half of the 17th century , attended the university and was Court Marshal of Lithuania and Marshal of the Sejm. I think this needs correction...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: P.P., is that a rhetorical question, What happened to the existing Polish language programs and faculty?, or are you asking seriously because you don't have even a small clue? If you're serious, I'd say probably the same thing that happened to the faculty and programs at the University of Breslau, in 1945. Dr. Dan 02:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not rethorical and I'd like a clear, referenced answer. The article states However, soon after the city was occupied by the Soviet Union, most of the professors returned, and most of the faculties were reopened on October 1, 1939. I do wonder how much they were change than, and how much were they changed after oDecember 13. As for the comparison with Wrocław/Breslau in 1945, do note that most of the (German) city population was expelled, including professors, student and most of the German speakers. This, to my knowledge, was not the case of Vilnius in 1939/1940 (there were expulsions, but I don't think they involved most Polish speakers... or did they?). On a related note, I wonder if there were any courses in foreign languages (particularly Lithuanian) before Sept 1939 at the university? What was the cirriculum for foreign languages anyway than, in Poland and worldwide (but that's a question not for this article to answer).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Would you have some refs for that? Particularly the dismissal of Polish faculty and students from the university would be certainly useful to this article. PS. History of Vilnius has this unreferenced yet interesting sentence: One of the unfortunate decisions made by Lithuanian authorities in this period was the closure and liquidation of Vilnius University on December 15th, 1939 and conducting a policy of repressions against the inhabitants of the town.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  03:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Lysy,doesn't it sound a lot like what happened in Breslau in 1945. Just substitute Polish for Lithuanians and Germans for Poles, leave Soviets as is? Dr. Dan 23:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But Dear Dan, using your logic one could come to the conclusion that Poles tried to conquer the world and exterminate all Lithuanians... I don't see much point in that. And Uncle Joe wasn't in charge, neither (at least, not until 1940...).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  03:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But Dearer P.P., my logic has nothing to do with who was calling the "shots" or whether "Uncle Joe" was in charge or not. If Lysy is correct, and the Soviets grabbed most of what they could, ...The usual thing you'd expect,... then Uncle Joe would have been in charge. If none of what Lysy stated took place, then an apology to the fewer and fewer Soviet war veterans is in order, from you boys. As for "logically" coming to any conclusion concerning world conquest or extermination, please get some rest, and loosen the collar of your żupan. Dr. Dan 04:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took the liberty of splitting your usuall off-topic remarks from the content that is actually relevant to this article. I'd think you'd be familiar with history of Vilnius; but seeing as you are unaware of parts of it, you may be interested to find out that Vilnius was actually occupied by the Red Army during the Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) before being turned over to the Lithuanian government (not for very long at that) - Lysy wrote as much. As it is indeed late, I will not look for sources about looting of Vilnius by Red Army now (hopefully Lysy has some refs handy), although I will offer you this quote from the history of Vilnius article: A month of Soviet rule in Vilnius had catastrophic consequences: the city was starving, the museums and archives robbed, the valuables and historic documents were stolen and transferred to Russia, and many people were deported.. Finally, knowing your love for off-topic arguments, let me give you those two photos of a mostly unrelated event: ,  - Russian forces stripping Warsaw of metal before their retreat in 1918. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  04:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, Dr. Dan, I think this might be somewhat similar to Breslau. But that Breslau thingy happened later, after all the horrors of WW2, the concentration camps, mass killings of civilians and all the stuff you know. I'm not trying to justify the oppression of Germans in Breslau, but it can be somewhat explained by what the Poles went through. --Lysytalk 09:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Xx236, is any of your comment researched and verifyable, or just "some of it"? Ever hear of Festung Breslau and see pictures of the University of Breslau and the University of Vilnius in May 1945? Please try to stay away from inserting your POV into this discussion. You have no idea of what the German students of Breslau did or didn't do, let alone their fates, and whether they were imprisoned in Soviet POW camps or not. And the Breslau professor's train ride, where did that come from? Dr. Dan 15:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Now, now, Xx236, no one has called you a liar. Please don't insert you "opinions" about German professors, German students, and Soviet Pow camps with information that cannot be sourced or verified. Also please don't refer to this being off topic, and then continuing to put in more off topic "information". And finally, if you truly do not like "off topic" entries, please chide all editors contributing with off topic remarks and photos equally. Dr. Dan 06:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

text: All of the professors, ten of them, two of them? When were they evacuated to Dresden? What are your sources? Were they killed in the Bombing of Dresden? Did some stay and fight with the Volksturm? Did some of them end up in Soviet POW camps? Please be consequential with your edits and in your comments. I don't want anyone to misinform the readers either. And I'm happy to move our discussion off of this talk page. Where would you like to take it? Dr. Dan 04:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: :Lysy,doesn't it sound a lot like what happened in Breslau in 1945. Just substitute Polish for Lithuanians and Germans for Poles, leave Soviets as is? Dr. Dan 23:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But Dear Dan, using your logic one could come to the conclusion that Poles tried to conquer the world and exterminate all Lithuanians... I don't see much point in that. And Uncle Joe wasn't in charge, neither (at least, not until 1940...).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  03:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But Dearer P.P., my logic has nothing to do with who was calling the "shots" or whether "Uncle Joe" was in charge or not. If Lysy is correct, and the Soviets grabbed most of what they could, ...The usual thing you'd expect,... then Uncle Joe would have been in charge. If none of what Lysy stated took place, then an apology to the fewer and fewer Soviet war veterans is in order, from you boys. As for "logically" coming to any conclusion concerning world conquest or extermination, please get some rest, and loosen the collar of your żupan. Dr. Dan 04:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took the liberty of splitting your usuall off-topic remarks from the content that is actually relevant to this article. I'd think you'd be familiar with history of Vilnius; but seeing as you are unaware of parts of it, you may be interested to find out that Vilnius was actually occupied by the Red Army during the Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) before being turned over to the Lithuanian government (not for very long at that) - Lysy wrote as much. As it is indeed late, I will not look for sources about looting of Vilnius by Red Army now (hopefully Lysy has some refs handy), although I will offer you this quote from the history of Vilnius article: A month of Soviet rule in Vilnius had catastrophic consequences: the city was starving, the museums and archives robbed, the valuables and historic documents were stolen and transferred to Russia, and many people were deported.. Finally, knowing your love for off-topic arguments, let me give you those two photos of a mostly unrelated event: ,  - Russian forces stripping Warsaw of metal before their retreat in 1918. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  04:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, Dr. Dan, I think this might be somewhat similar to Breslau. But that Breslau thingy happened later, after all the horrors of WW2, the concentration camps, mass killings of civilians and all the stuff you know. I'm not trying to justify the oppression of Germans in Breslau, but it can be somewhat explained by what the Poles went through. --Lysytalk 09:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Xx236, is any of your comment researched and verifyable, or just "some of it"? Ever hear of Festung Breslau and see pictures of the University of Breslau and the University of Vilnius in May 1945? Please try to stay away from inserting your POV into this discussion. You have no idea of what the German students of Breslau did or didn't do, let alone their fates, and whether they were imprisoned in Soviet POW camps or not. And the Breslau professor's train ride, where did that come from? Dr. Dan 15:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Now, now, Xx236, no one has called you a liar. Please don't insert you "opinions" about German professors, German students, and Soviet Pow camps with information that cannot be sourced or verified. Also please don't refer to this being off topic, and then continuing to put in more off topic "information". And finally, if you truly do not like "off topic" entries, please chide all editors contributing with off topic remarks and photos equally. Dr. Dan 06:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

text: All of the professors, ten of them, two of them? When were they evacuated to Dresden? What are your sources? Were they killed in the Bombing of Dresden? Did some stay and fight with the Volksturm? Did some of them end up in Soviet POW camps? Please be consequential with your edits and in your comments. I don't want anyone to misinform the readers either. And I'm happy to move our discussion off of this talk page. Where would you like to take it? Dr. Dan 04:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Off-topic play by Dr. Dan and Xx236

message: Weren't they memebers of minorities in Poland? It's almost impossible that students from Soviet Russia studied in Wilno.Xx236 14:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm also puzzled with this sentence. What is the supposed meaning of "international" there ? Foreign ? What is the source of this information ? --Lysytalk 18:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The University's international students  

message: It's a biased statement. How a 98% non-Lithuanian city can be returned to a state created in 1918?Xx236 15:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same way that you think it belongs to different state created in 1918. Dr. Dan 15:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But a little differently than a 99% German city was "recovered"(ziemie odzyskanie), by Poland in 1945. Dr. Dan 03:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

text: As was Poland. Dr. Dan 05:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And many other countries. How is that relevant here ? --Lysytalk 08:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. Dr. Dan 15:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I can easily find a reference confirming that Vilnius was occupied by Lithuania. Do you want this ? Why are you doing this, M.K ? --Lysytalk 16:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? Do you separate difference between words "occupation" and "return"? M.K. 17:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: M.K., why don't you just back down? Lysy can certainly find a reference that Vilnius is occupied by Lithuania, and a reference that Lithuania occupied Vilnius again in 1991, (like we were recently informed). Haven't you learned that there are a "plethora" of tygodniks out there proving everything except that if one's Aunt had a moustache she'd be your Uncle. Dr. Dan 21:40, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, let me rephrase this. I understand that your personal POV is that Vilnius was "returned" , you believe it and you dismiss any other POV. However as a wikipedia editor, you should try to avoid taking sides. It's much better to avoid terms like "returned" in such contexts if not absolutely necessary. Using such words does not add any valuable information to the article itself. On the contrary, it might suggest that Vilnius belonged to Lithuania before WW2, which is not true, as it was in Poland. Other than that, I'm sure you know that the Soviets did not "return" Vilnius to Lithuania but first occupied it and then traded for their military presence in the country. --Lysytalk 08:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, you making personal attack here, stop this now! Second why you failed to see that word is directly referenced?  And why do you not consulting with other English sources which uses same formulation? And stop accusing me with one sided approach, you have been warned. M.K. 09:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Accusation of one side then is supported by neutral sources. M.K. 10:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pardon ? --Lysytalk 10:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You directly accused my being one sided you believe it and you dismiss any other POV. M.K. 10:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vilnius was returned [1] to Lithuania  

message: This article is about the University. Wouldn't be better to move the information to Vilnius? If the Lithuanian POV is quoted here, why not the data about the population of the city?Xx236 15:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you suggesting that the Polish POV is not being "quoted" here? And although I agree that the "data" regarding the composition of the population is somewhat OT regarding this article, I fail to understand why you and the loyal oppostion continue to bring it up here. And maybe you, Xx236, can answer my question on this page, or wherever you think would be more appropriate, if not here. This "disputed" data that Vilnius was a 2% Lithuanian city does not jive with Pilsudski's proclamations to the inhabitants of the city bilingually. Why would this be done for a mere 2% of the population? Dr. Dan 04:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember once you suggested you were a historian... dubious, but what the heck: just check the censuses for yourself (they are in one of the articles you criticised if you're lazy or too far away from any decent library). And then check the title of the proclamation (that would be enough, you don't have to read it all) and then check whether you still want to ask the same question. //Halibutt 09:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside from your insulting demeanor, you have not answered the question. And please, the answer to my question would benefit everyone who might be interested, not just myself. Riddles, and guessing games seem to be more to your liking. Dr. Dan 15:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Been doing that for sometime now. Dr. Dan 15:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without citing any sources, just insulting those who provide ones you don't like. This is not a good strateg, Dan. As for the word 'transfer', it is used by a very respectsble historian, Norman Davies (the entire paragraph is definetly worth reading, btw).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  13:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: All right, Dan, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt once more and reply to your question. First of all, the proclamation was issued not to the Lithuanian inhabitants of Vilna, but to the inhabitants of the former Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Compare the areas and you'll see why the bilingual version. Also take note that the former Grand Duchy of Lithuania included also Lithuanian lands, such as Samogitia, where Poles were but a minority. //Halibutt 12:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As for giving me the benefit of the doubt, keep in mind this is an open discussion rather than a private one, and many things that you and I are aware of are being presented to others (maybe even for the first time). Regarding the proclamation, I suppose the Lithuanian inhabitants of Vilnius were not targeted by the proclamation, and therefore irrelevant. And please do not negate the fact that a significant number, a very significant number of Lithuanians were multi-lingual. Which is the heart of the matter anyway. Some in this discussion think if you can speak Polish, you're Polish. That's simply not the case. One of my roomates at UJ, Samuel U, was from Nigeria, and his ability to speak Polish was very impressive. And let me remind you that the Lithuanian Jews in Vilnius and the rest of Lithuania were just that Lithuanian Jews. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt too. Are you Polish, or a Jew, or a Polish Jew? If you had ancestors in Warsaw during the Partitions, were they Polish Jews or Russian Jews or just Jews? Try to be logical and consequentual in your thinking when you answer this question. Why this distinction regarding these Lithuanian Jews? Or the claim of XX% Poles, XX% "Jews", XX% Lithuanians, XX% Belarusians, XX% Russians? This special designation of these citizens smacks of something strange in my way of thinking. Maybe it's because there is a different mentality in the U.S. (my home base), considering this matter. Perhaps if you pause and think about this you can open your thought processes to a different POV. The only way this edit war will stop, and the WP project regarding the overlapping histories that Poland and Lithuania share, is when this relentless campaign to belittle and deny the uniqueness of Lithuania (as opposed to being conjoined to Poland), its history and geography stops. It unfortunately smacks of those trying to do the same to Poland. Truly a pity. Dr. Dan 14:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the topic of sharing, why do you refuse to 'share' the Jews of Vilnius with the Poles (and Russians...)? Please explain what are your reasons for arguing that the Jews in the city where majority were Poles and minority were Lithuanians should be classified as Lithuanian Jews (especially when the footnote explains it quite clearly that such labels are misleading)?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  21:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someday you'll let your "better-half" answer my questions himself. In the meantime, the answer to your question is simple; Jews in France are French Jews, and in Russia, Russian Jews, and in Lithuania, Lithuanian Jews. Too bad you didn't focus like a laser on the more important aspect of my edit. That was that the constant denial of the uniqueness of Lithuania and it people, resembles anti-Polonism, by those who denigrate Poland over and over again. Truly a pity. Dr. Dan 00:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be suprised to read Lithuanian Jews article. From the lead: the term Lithuanian Jew, or (in Yiddish) Litvisher or (in Hebrew) Litaim often means someone who follows [certain] approaches, rather than someone from Lithuania.. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  03:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The operative words in the sentence being often means (probably should be "sometimes means"). Big deal, it negates nothing. Guess it could apply to Polish Jews or Danish Jews as well. And again too bad you didn't "focus like a laser" on the more important aspect of my edit. Truly a pity. Dr. Dan 14:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vilnius was transferred [1] to Lithuania which considered the previous eighteen years as an occupation by Poland of its capital. 

message: An administrator tells us in his above comment that I insult contributors by challenging their POV. First of all, I primarily challenge some of them, because false POV and historical inaccuracies are a detriment to the WP project. If that insults someone, that's a psychological issue that they must deal with themselves. Unfortunately this administrator often peppers his POV with great falsehoods as well. As proof of this I offer this flurry of his contributions to the recently added Antoni Bohdziewicz article and it's talk page as a concrete example. Perhaps we can take this matter to that talk page. Dr. Dan 16:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Now it Gets Interesting

message: This article is Vilnius University. The history of the city should be discussed in Vilnius. If the above Lithuanian POV has to be here, the same a Polish POV should be included.
Xx236 13:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How nice of you to notice, This article is "Vilnius University". Dr. Dan 20:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  which considered the previous eighteen years as an occupation by Poland of its capital. 

message: Oldest Lithuanian book, Luther's small cathecism translated by Martynas Mazvydas, was printed in 1547, not in 1595. Furthermore, I seriously doubt whether this Jesuit institution printed works of Lutheran Mazvydas.
Yes, that That was mistake, ir was book of Mikalojus Daukša, oldest (surviving) printed Lithuanian book in Lithuania proper .--Lokyz 16:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest Lithuanian book 

message: Wasn't that the legal name? Xx236 14:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  V. Kapsukas Vilnius State University 

message: Please, don't rewrite the article without former discussion.Xx236 (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet propaganda 

message: That they were no Polish-speaking students at this University as the article now implies. It's rather obvious they were.
--Molobo (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm? I do not think, that there is a an implication, that there were no Polish speaking students. Article simply says, that Academy run by Jesuits was teaching in Latin, and all students to attend the Academy had to be fluent in Latin. Carpe diem.--Lokyz (talk) 22:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's rather difficult to imagine 

message: "Wilno University" is used in reference to the institution in historical context , including in general and noteworthy works such as Timothy Snyder's Reconstruction of Nations . For comparison, also see the article on Wroclaw University which has the German (and Latin) name included. There's no reason to not include "Wilno University", please stop removing it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  name    

message: Hi; I came in response to your request over at WP:3O.
*In some cases I would be happy to put the alternate name in the lede, but in this case we have quite a large "names" section at the top of the article; I think the alternate name is best placed there, and I doubt it's quite prominent/official enough to be promoted out of that section into the lede (though it's a close call).
*As an aside: There appear to be a gap in the timeline between 1832 and 1919. Maybe mention the closure at this point? Also, the timeline of names tells some interesting history in itself, so it might be a good idea to wikilink some terms (even if they are already linked from the later "History" section).
*It may also be helpful to wikilink to History of Vilnius, which discusses the complex subject in more detail - we can hardly retell this history in standalone text in every different article that relates to Vilnius.
*If the lede was greatly expanded, maybe it would be reasonable to include the alternate name at that point, but for the moment the short and slightly awkward lede (which is a consequence of the long and slightly awkward history) is probably not the best place for it.
This kind of discussion often becomes difficult - frustrated editors start sniping at each other or start acting passive-aggressively - so I have to commend you all on staying civil and assuming good faith. Well done; it's not always easy to keep a cool head. bobrayner (talk) 17:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The recent "Wilno/Vilna/Vilnius" frenzy in the "names" section looks silly, and I doubt it accurately reflects what sources say. bobrayner (talk) 01:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the "Wilno/Vilna/Vilnius" thing in the names section is unnecessary, but this is precisely why it would just be better to put "Wilno" and "Vilna" once in the lede and be done with it (note that the "names" section was a lot different when I posted the 3O request) - and just have the "official latin name" in the names section.Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that all of that is better done - once - in the names section. However, my third opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it  bobrayner (talk) 10:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Renata3 and I have made some efforts at condensation and concision. The number of refs in the name section is absurd, but I'm loath to remove them, they could be used elsewhere in the article sometime. I don't care about the ordering of the EN version of the city name in these entries - I was going to sort them by their appearance in the refs, but many are offline, so no can do. I suppose they're all relevant, so maybe ref order doesn't matter that much. Novickas (talk) 15:20, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Extra refs can be helpful in the case of dispute, though, and I think that the problem posed by excessive refs is quite small compared to other problems we might face. If every wikipedia article suffered from problems like "Too many sources" or "Every sentence is referenced" I'd be a very happy man. bobrayner (talk) 15:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Please read entire article on History of Vilnius  as well as Vilnius and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.--Jacurek (talk) 02:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment from an uninvolved editor

message: More appropriate as appears to be a faculty of said university. No significant notability with individual faculty Nördic Nightfury 08:49, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Klbrain (talk) 17:57, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Vilnius University Institute of International Relations and Political Science]] 

message: === Teaching and learning ===
More than 23,000 students are currently studying in 98 Bachelor’s and 113 Master’s degree programmes, with PhD studies offered in 29 scientific fields. Students can also choose from more than 60 medicine and dentistry residency programmes. 
International students may choose from the 56 study programmes in English in such fields as medicine, odontology, business and management, economics, mathematics and informatics, philology, law, and communications. More than 2500 international students are studying at Vilnius university, which is around 10% of all students.
While offering undergraduate, graduate and postgraduate studies in the fields of the Humanities, Social Sciences, Natural Sciences, Medicine and Health Sciences, and Technologies, Vilnius University seeks to ensure that the quality of these studies at all levels conform to the European standards, while pertaining to the needs of the state and society. 
Based in the centre of Europe, Lithuania’s capital Vilnius provides a world-class ICT infrastructure, rapidly-growing businesses, a multilingual community and a very rich cultural life. The University conducts joint study programmes together with foreign higher education institutions. During these collaborative studies, part of the programme takes place at the University, with the other part taking place at a foreign higher education institution. After the completion of these joint studies, a joint qualification degree can be awarded, if the requirements are met. 
==== Research ====
The research areas of Vilnius University are:
# Humanities
# Lithuanian Studies
# Structure and Development of Society
# Biological and Sociopsychological Cognition and the Evolution of Man
# Healthy Mankind, Prevention, Diagnostics and Treatment of Diseases
# Genomics, Biomolecules and Biotechnologies
# Changes in Ecosystems, Protection and Natural Resources
# New Functional Materials and Derivatives
# Theoretical and Condensed Matter Physics
# Laser Physics and Light Technologies
# Fundamental and Applied Mathematics
# Informatics and Information Technologies
More than 1/3 of the PhD theses created in Lithuania are defended at Vilnius University, where over 3,000 research publications are published, and more than 400 research projects are implemented annually.
Vilnius University has over 160 research teams, which are acknowledged across the globe. The University’s researchers are equipped with world-class equipment and infrastructures, and they obtain the best possible results. The interdisciplinary approach that the University researchers apply in their search for original and innovative solutions allows the Vilnius University researchers reach an outstanding performance within the academic, educational, cultural, business and social ecosystems.
Vilnius University offers more than 450 open access R&D services and infrastructures in all R&D and innovation areas including: life sciences, chemistry and geosciences, photonics and nanotechnology, laser physics, semiconductors and lighting, information technologies, psychology and many others. Of course, each business, academic or social partner faces unique challenges; therefore, all of our R&D services can be adapted to every organisation’s needs.
 
By attracting targeted funding or using the University’s funds, the University currently represents the country or participates as a partner in the following international research infrastructures: EMBL; EMBC (European Conference on Molecular Biology); Instruct-ERIC (Structural Biology Infrastructure); ELI (Extreme Light Infrastructure); CERN; WAEVE Consortium (Next Generation Spectroscopy Facility for the William Herschel Telescope); and the Biobanks and Biomolecular Resources Research Infrastructure (BBMRI-ERIC). The ongoing cooperation in the development of these infrastructures is not only international but also national in scale. For example, the Semiconductor Technology Centre (PTC) and the Innovative Chemistry (INOCHEM) Centre are currently being developed. In addition to these research infrastructures, the University is actively involved in other research networks, associations and continuous research activities. Among other international infrastructures, the University’s activities in CLARIN, SHARE-ERIC, LaserLab-Europe should also be mentioned.
The EMBL Partnership Institute was established in the Vilnius University Life Sciences Centre (LSC), based on an agreement concluded in 2020, the main goal of which is to initiate and develop new directions and technologies in relation to genome editing research and applications in LSC, and to promote the application of genome editing technologies in LSC and Lithuanian research and study institutions and businesses.
Global Entrepreneurship Monitoring (GEM) is the world's largest survey of the state of entrepreneurship, conducted since 1999, using the GEM methodology for entrepreneurship, which is recognised as one of the world's most objective, rigorous and reliable methodologies. From 2021, Vilnius University Business School (VU Business School) coordinates and implements GEM in Lithuania. 
Vilnius University participates in different national and international research projects such as the EU Seventh Framework Programme, Horizon 2020, COST, EUREKA, CERN, etc. To enhance the interrelation between science and business, Vilnius University has established four open access centres aimed at providing access to available research and laboratory equipment not only to students and researchers but also to representatives of business or to personnel of other institutions of science and research. 
Lecturers at the University are highly esteemed researchers and have been bestowed the most prestigious Lithuanian science and Lithuanian Academy of Science awards. They are also members of international scientific organisations and honorary doctors of foreign universities.
=== Prominent researchers ===
One of the most well known scholars in Vilnius University is Prof. Virginijus Šikšnys. He is famous for pioneering a CRISPR/Cas9 gene editing technology also known as ‘gene scissors’. Prof. Šikšnys is now Head of the Department of Protein–DNA Interactions at the Vilnius University Institute of Biotechnology.
Prof. Andrej Spiridonov is famous for the discovery of drivers of evolutionary changes at mega-scale. His latest research suggests that life rather than climate influences diversity at scales greater than 40 million years.
Dr. Mangirdas Malinauskas has been working in laser and optical technologies for more than ten years. At the Laser Research Centre, Malinauskas develops technologies popularly known as ‘4D printing’. Such technologies can produce so-called intelligent objects that can change shape and other properties in response to appropriate conditions: electricity, light, heat, humidity, acidity, solvent composition, etc.
Dr. Linas Mažutis is successfully developing microfluidic technologies at Vilnius University Life Sciences Centre (VU GMC). He is a co-founder of two biotech and biomedical companies. The first one, Platelet BioGenesis, is an allogeneic cell therapy company focused on platelet biology, discovering a new category in therapeutics. He has also co-founded a start-up: the biotechnology company Droplet Genomics which has been rapidly making its way to international markets. The company‘s success is based on droplet microfluidic technology, enabling the study of single cells and molecules. One year ago the company attracted an investment of €1 million.
In 2004 Prof. Valentina Dagiene has established an International Challenge on Informatics and Computational Thinking called BEBRAS (‘Beaver’) which is implemented in over 60 countries. It is an international initiative aiming to promote informatics (Computer Science, or Computing) and computational thinking among school students at all ages. Participants are usually supervised by teachers who may integrate the BEBRAS challenge in their teaching activities. The challenge is performed at schools using computers or mobile devices."
Sources: https://www.vu.lt/en/studies, https://studyin.lt/institutions/vilniusuniversity/, https://www.masterstudies.com/institutions/vilnius-university.
3. In "Structure" remove wrong link on Institute of International Relations and Political Science, it directs to Vilnius university Wikipedia page. 
4. In "Campus" it is not the main courtyard, change it into the Grand Courtyard. Sources: https://www.vu.lt/en/about-vu/history/university-ensemble, https://www.govilnius.lt/visit-vilnius/latest-tips/enter-the-courtyards-of-vilnius.
158.129.156.9 (talk) 14:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.   Spintendo  08:24, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Information has been added. 84.15.180.169 (talk) 09:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Academics''' 

message: One of the most well known scholars in Vilnius University is Prof. Virginijus Šikšnys. He is famous for pioneering a CRISPR/Cas9 gene editing technology also known as ‘gene scissors’. Prof. Šikšnys is now Head of the Department of Protein–DNA Interactions at the Vilnius University Institute of Biotechnology.
Prof. Andrej Spiridonov is famous for the discovery of drivers of evolutionary changes at mega-scale. His latest research suggests that life rather than climate influences diversity at scales greater than 40 million years.
Dr. Mangirdas Malinauskas has been working in laser and optical technologies for more than ten years. At the Laser Research Centre, Malinauskas develops technologies popularly known as ‘4D printing’. Such technologies can produce so-called intelligent objects that can change shape and other properties in response to appropriate conditions: electricity, light, heat, humidity, acidity, solvent composition, etc.
Dr. Linas Mažutis is successfully developing microfluidic technologies at Vilnius University Life Sciences Centre (VU GMC). He is a co-founder of two biotech and biomedical companies. The first one, Platelet BioGenesis, is an allogeneic cell therapy company focused on platelet biology, discovering a new category in therapeutics. He has also co-founded a start-up: the biotechnology company Droplet Genomics which has been rapidly making its way to international markets. The company‘s success is based on droplet microfluidic technology, enabling the study of single cells and molecules. One year ago the company attracted an investment of €1 million.
In 2004 Prof. Valentina Dagiene has established an International Challenge on Informatics and Computational Thinking called BEBRAS (‘Beaver’) which is implemented in over 60 countries. It is an international initiative aiming to promote informatics (Computer Science, or Computing) and computational thinking among school students at all ages. Participants are usually supervised by teachers who may integrate the BEBRAS challenge in their teaching activities. The challenge is performed at schools using computers or mobile devices."
Sources: https://www.vu.lt/en/studies, https://studyin.lt/institutions/vilniusuniversity/, https://www.masterstudies.com/institutions/vilnius-university.
3. In "Structure" remove wrong link on Institute of International Relations and Political Science, it directs to Vilnius university Wikipedia page. 
4. In "Campus" it is not the main courtyard, change it into the Grand Courtyard. Sources: https://www.vu.lt/en/about-vu/history/university-ensemble, https://www.govilnius.lt/visit-vilnius/latest-tips/enter-the-courtyards-of-vilnius.
158.129.156.9 (talk) 14:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.   Spintendo  08:24, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Information has been added. 84.15.180.169 (talk) 09:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prominent researchers 

message: Why does  require 12 citations? Schazjmd (talk) 23:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it doesn't, they should be removed Marcelus (talk) 15:24, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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