Talk:Jämthund

message: The Jämthund must be a JAMTISH/JAMTLANDIC Elkhound rather than a SWEDISH Elkhound. Remember that Jämtland has been a part of Sweden for only slightly more than 300 years. Prior to that it was a part of Norway, so one should use the name of the province rather than the country which the province happens to belong to since some time. The dog is way much older than 300 years, so why should swedes have any credit for its existence? Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thing you ought to consider though is that before Jämtland was conquered by Sweden it still was only Norwegian on paper, in reality it was fairly autonomous, and due to it's geographic location cultural ties with both Norway and Sweden have always been strong. The breed of dog however, despite being called Jämthund, wasn't really exclusive to Jämtland, but rather to the general area around Jämtland, so to be more correct it isn't only a Jämtlandic breed but a breed native to the central scandinavian peninsula, and credit should go to Swedes, Norwegians, and Jämtlandians alike, but I agree with you that calling it a Swedish Elkhound does place an unduely amount of credit on Swedes, which is why I always call it Jämthund. -- Barnflickan 18:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In this sense Swedish is a political adjective, just like e.g. Gutnish is a Swedish dialect. The name, however imprecise, seems to be well established so it should definately be mentioned. Though a clarification under a name-section is of course not harmful. //Heimvennar - divider 18:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that focussed breeding of working, rural dogs, and therefore specified breeds of such dogs, is a phenomenon which is not really older than the 19th century. The Jämthund was recognised and registered as a breed only in 1946, according to svwiki. So references to the pre-1645 situation in Jämtland with respect to this breed may not be entirely relevant, unless you can provide some very convicing sources. Tomas e (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: SWEDISH Elkhound!?

message: Well, that's what some dog books I've read say.
Sorry, I don't have them at hand to cite source from.
Michael (talk) 15:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well... 

message: Since 2003, this article has contained claims of Jämthund as the official dog of the Swedish Airforce and Marines, as well as being mobilised for wartime duties. The claim was initially added in this edit, and has later been rephrased and moved around. This claim is unsourced, and is not found in the Swedish article :sv:Jämthund. I can't recall ever having seen a Swedish military Jämthund; the service dogs in Sweden are mostly German Shepherd Dogs (as almost everywhere else, I assume), although I remember also having seen a Rottweiler or two, so I'm sceptical about the existence of the concept of an "official service dog" of the Swedish Armed Forces. The volunteer organisation responsible for mobilisable Armed Forces dogs, Svenska Brukshundsklubben actually has a GSD in its logotype! A quick look on the website of the Swedish breed club Svenska Jämthundklubben only showed hunting-related links and partners. So, for now, I've given both these claims a "citation needed". I think it's likely that these claims are a hoax, and I will remove them from the article in the near future if I don't see them properly referenced with WP:RS. Tomas e (talk) 15:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military use of the Jämthund 

message: To quote the New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary: The New Authority on the English Language, Volume 1, page 800:
Additionally, the FCI International Breed Standard on page 2 tells us:
Let us hear no more about it being referred to as a "moose" all around the world - no it is not. William Harris (talk) 08:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elk