Talk:Itaewon

message: The above users visited the Itaewon page and changed some of the descriptions, essentially: "military personnel from Yongsan garrison and the UN base as well as civilian visitors from the wider world" to "foreigners" and "English-speaking cutie peeking out of a doorway" to "prostitute" 
I reverted the initial change as I felt it took some of the life out of an article about a vibrant, diverse part of Seoul. I also left a note on the users talk page (along with a welcome message, this is a brand new user) but the change was remade almost instantly. I'd be interested to hear everyone - especially Hardyandtiny's - views on these changes, I personally think the original sounded better and is a great description of what goes on in Itaewon. The changes strike me as somewhat sanitary and that's not, imo, supposed to get in the way of good prose in WP articles. Deizio 01:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would actually tend to favor Hardyandtiny's changes -- at least the ones you mention--, per Wikipedia's preference for clear, succinct writing.  "Cutie" is a particularly problematic word.  -- Visviva 01:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes by [[User:Hardyandtiny]] 

message: I was about to comment on how grossly POV this article sounds (it sounds more like someone's travel blog than a bona fide encyclopedia entry to me), but it looks like there has already been some discussion about the situation.  I tagged it, but if someone is already carefully monitoring the article, then the tag can be removed.  --Merkurix 10:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Who is "we"? In any case, you've missed the boat a little, those issues were addressed a while ago - we're talking 17 months since my post above. Please sign your posts by typing ~~~~ - you never need to actually "write" your username. You should also use user talk pages to communicate with individual editors. As your comments pertain to the article generally I've refactored your edit. Deiz talk 11:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It's "your" edit - you should register separate accounts if you wish to interact with the community as two different editors. This is an article talk page, but the comment was addressed to one editor. I reformatted the comment in line with Wikipedia style guidelines and the purpose of the page. You can use the history function to examine separate revisions of the page if you want to see the differences between the versions. Deiz talk 13:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Best to leave it as is, be honest about the fact that two individuals are editing with one account. Deleting / revising edits (different to "refactoring" which refers to formatting an edit for style reasons) to cover it up would only invite bigger concerns about the account. You should really create a userpage and mention it there as well. Deiz talk 13:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: I've never heard of Itaewon referred to as "American Ghetto". I don't mind the term, but I've just never heard of it and I've lived in Itaewon for more than ten years. I've always thought of it as the foreigner's district. Do Korean people refer to it as "American Ghetto"?  What do you think? Hardyandtiny 14:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't say I've heard it used much if at all. If it's unsourced, remove at will. Deiz talk 14:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I'll leave it as is until I can propose a major overall change. I think it's a waste of time to "pick at it". I'm just wondering if maybe I've missed a term used by Koreans.Hardyandtiny 14:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can say that I find the term "ghetto" offensive.  Usually, the word has negative connotations, and if anything, Itaewon is not a bad place.  I suggest removing that term.  Queerbubbles (talk) 17:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Ghetto 

message: I removed the cite tag for the Gay community section, per WP:WHEN, Subject-specific common knowledge. Anyone even remotely familiar with Itaewon would, I am fairly certain, know this to be true.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otebig (talk • contribs) 17:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay community cite

message: We think the relatively new subway stations have had a huge impact on how the population of Seoul interacts with this area. We think we should create a note within the main paragraph about "the opening".Hardyandtiny (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  subway 

message: "Over the last decade, a moderately visible lesbian and gay community has emerged"
Instead of timing the advent of the gay community as "over the last decade" we should note the first gay clubs in the area. The first gay clubs in Itaewon were near the current "back alley" where the 3alley pub is now located around 1992. "Over the last decade" does not last.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardyandtiny (talk • contribs) 21:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  gay section 

message: Itaewon has a red light district, but it is not "Seoul's Red Light District". There are several red light districts in Seoul, the largest is in Miari. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miari. HardyandTiny 02:04, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  red light district 

message: ...not Hannam-dong HardyandTiny 05:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The late Samsung chairman's home is in Itaewon dong