Talk:Gilad Atzmon

message: In the spirit of the text being led by events, as per WP:CRIT, is the following a reasonable description of Atzmon's engagement with Palestine solidarity campaigners?
In 2006, Atzmon, criticised for his views within the Palestinian solidarity movement, argued that Jews should participate only as individuals rather than as exclusively Jewish organised groups. 
In 2012, a number of individuals were expelled from the Palestine Solidarity Campaign due to allegations of Holocaust denial. Atzmon regrouped with some of these around the short lived Deliberation website.  Thanks, Jontel (talk) 19:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a quote related to the phrase "argued that Jews should participate only as individuals rather than as exclusively Jewish organised groups"? It didn't appear in the excerpt from google books that was used as the source. Burrobert (talk) 13:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  The link from the citation in this article to the Hirsh book on Google Books uses the purge phrase. If you search the book using "Atzmon", you get different results. What Hirsh does on the page before the one with this phrase is quote Atzmon as saying, inter alia, "I would use this opportunity and appeal to our friends amongst the Jewish socialists and other Jewish solidarity groups. I would ask them to clear the stage willingly, and re-join as ordinary human beings." Jontel (talk) 14:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any particular reason to change here, and it is unclear what text Jontel is attempting to change. "allegations of Holocaust denial" reads like a whitewash of the sources.--Hippeus (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  The reason for change is to move from a potentially endless list of criticisms, with critics echoing each other, to an account of actual acts by Atzmon or significant concrete responses to them. This is in line with WP:CRIT "In most cases separate sections devoted to criticism, controversies, or the like should be avoided in an article because these sections call undue attention to negative viewpoints." The proposed text would replaces the first paragraphs in the the scholarship section but, being dated, be placed in the time line so that one can see how events develop. Jontel (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making coverage of Atzmon's engagement with Palestine solidarity campaigners event led 

message: Please consider the following for inclusion in this entry.
===Institute for Historical Review===
On 1 October 2016, Atzmon addressed a meeting of the Holocaust denial organization Institute for Historical Review.
 Also addressing the event were the Holocaust denier Mark Weber and the white supremacist Kevin B. MacDonald.
Atzmon returned to the Institute for Historical Review for similar event on May 6, 2017 where he again shared a podium with Mark Weber.
WhinyGramps (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That is indeed extremely relevant info that belongs in this article, perhaps towards the end. Dissident socialist (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

text: Definitely relevant, but these are primary sources - are there secondary sources for this? BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Institute for Historical Review 

message: On 1 October 2016, Atzmon addressed a meeting of the Holocaust denial organization Institute for Historical Review.
 Also addressing the event were the Holocaust denier Mark Weber and the white supremacist Kevin B. MacDonald.
Atzmon returned to the Institute for Historical Review for similar event on May 6, 2017 where he again shared a podium with Mark Weber.
WhinyGramps (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That is indeed extremely relevant info that belongs in this article, perhaps towards the end. Dissident socialist (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

text: Definitely relevant, but these are primary sources - are there secondary sources for this? BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Institute for Historical Review