Talk:Gainesville, Florida

message: I have removed the POV notice that was recently re-added to the article page. There has been previous discussion here about whether the notice was necessary, but no discussion since it was removed. If someone wants to add it again, I think they should come here first for a discussion. -- Donald Albury 22:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And the notice has been restored again without even a peep here. Unless there is discussion here of real issues, I do not see any reason for leaving the notice on the page. -- Donald Albury 10:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

text: While I feel that calling Gainesville "the Berkeley of the South" was overblown, the statement is given as a quote from Marshall Jones, cited from a reliable source. I would also note that at the time Jones was referring to, student activism at UF was as prevalent, if not more so, than any other large school in the South. Can you point to a reliable source that says women are at high risk of sexual violence in Gainesville, and that this fact is of historical significance? You can cite published crime statistics, but your own analysis of what those statistics mean is original research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia. -- Donald Albury 03:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

text: It would help if you provided a link to the FBI report, or enough information to allow a casual reader to find the report in a library. A statistical report does not in and of itself establish historical significance. Moreover, it is not for you or me to say whether or not Gainesville is particularly unsafe for women compared to similar cities. You need to find at least one reliable source that supports that statement. Remember, everything in Wikipedia must be verifiable from reliable sources. No original research is allowed, which means that editors are not allowed to insert their opinions or analysis into articles. Neutral point of view means that verifiable material must be present in a balanced manner. If reliable sources conflict on a subject, we note the differences in the article, without giving undue weight to fringe positions. Now, again, please cite reliable sources for your statements. -- Donald Albury 21:19, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I have no objection to citing the crime statistics in the article (although I cannot speak for others), but any commentary, analysis, discussion of significance, or comparison with other cities will require citations to reliable sources. Neither you nor I, nor any other editor, can provide analysis or commentary on the crime statistics that is not supported by reliable sources. You cannot use Wikipedia to make an argument that has not already been presented in a reliable source. -- Donald Albury 21:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

text: No, I do not agree that the 2009 crime statistics are of historical significance. And, no, I do not have to agree with you about the POV warning. Current or very recent crime statistics can be found in some articles about cities, particularly where there has been significant coverage in the press about crime in that city. I am not aware of significant coverage of crime in Gainesville that compares it to other cities or that states that any type of crime is more prevalent than elsewhere. If you want to talk about the historical significance of crime in Gainesville, note that I have recently added something about the situation in Gainesville in the later part of the 19th century, when the town seemed to match the common image of a town in the Wild West. Also note that I cited a published history of Gainesville for that material. -- Donald Albury 09:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

text: And I will remove it again, as you have failed to provide any specifics of what you think needs to be fixed, and the consensus has been to remove it. -- Donald Albury 09:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm waiting for another book to come in, hopefully today, before working on the history after 1900. Hildreth and Cox does cover up to 1979, but I would like to have a second comprehensive source to work from (Hicks, Pickard and Rajtar are spotty, useful only for some details). -- Donald Albury 10:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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message: * More details are needed about the University of Florida and its effect on the Gainesville economy.  Historical details about how the university has shaped the city might also be good as well. Jccort (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have information from reliable sources, add it. My understanding is that the University played only a small role in the growth and economy of Gainesville until after WWII. I do intend to add more about the role of the university community in Gainesville politics (which only became significant from the 1960s on). However, the Hildreth and Cox history only goes up to the 1970s, and I haven't found much on the history and economy of Gainesville since then. -- Donald Albury 01:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
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Gainesville, FL is home to a large EPA Superfund site - Koppers/Beazer East Gainesville Superfund Gainesville, Florida.  The University of Florida sits within a 1-2 mile radius of this EPA Superfund site.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.49.209 (talk) 00:43, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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message: Could someone please add at least five lines to the "history" section? It's great to have a separate article about it, but this main article should have a little bit, too. Please ping me when you have done it. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 17:09, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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message: In the last day there was dispute over edits, with the contention being whether trackage remains and freight trains operate in the city. It is apparent from current aerial photographs and from maps that the CSX tracks only extend from north of the city and stop right north of NW 23rd Avenue.Dogru144 (talk) 23:16, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the statement that the last trackage was removed from the city in 1984 because the cited source did not support that statement, and, in fact, a line still extends into the city. I am well aware of how much trackage has disappeared from Gainesville, having been around the city since 1961, but there is still a bit of track leading onto the city. - Donald Albury 00:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Railroad remnants in Gainesville

message: The record high temperature observed for the entire month of February is now 89 degrees F, which was set on February 18, 2019. The old record was 88 degrees F.
:Generally one needs to provide proof with a citation of some sort. When this was changed a few days ago, I could not find proof. NOAA had a high of 88 for their historical data that included February 2019. I don't know if it took some time to update NOAA files but I did find it at https://w2.weather.gov/climate/getclimate.php?date=&wfo=jax&sid=GNV&pil=RER&recent=yes&specdate=2019-02-18+22%3A04%3A53. Will update page.
UPDATED February 23, 2019: New record is 91 degrees F. Ref: https://twitter.com/NWSJacksonville/status/1099393386212151298
::Twitter is not a source even if by NOAA. Nonetheless, maybe we should wait until the end of the month before updating the high for the month. The area may break the record again. PopularOutcasttalk2me! 21:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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message: It sucks every other city has different pictures on their page but not Gainesville it has this boring looking hippodrome theater that's the only thing Gainesville page has to offer....it's sorry!!! 2600:8807:C205:F600:A964:14:4DBF:9CF7 (talk) 16:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: We are all volunteers here. You are free to add images to the article, as long as they meet the relevant conditions. Since images have to be free to use, and copyright laws protect almost all works created in the last century, almost all images of the city created in the last 70 to 100 years have to be uploaded to Commons by the creator of the photo under a free license before they can be used in Wikipedia. Any image in Commons related to Gainesville is eligible to be added to the article. Please see :Help:Files for more information on adding images to Wikipedia. - Donald Albury 21:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gainesville Florida Wikipedia page 

message: Upload some up to date images of Gainesville something more relevant 2600:8807:C106:3800:7DA5:3683:5A42:66ED (talk) 19:18, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You are welcome to do so yourself. We are all volunteers here, and so it it up to each editor to decide what they want to contribute. Alt.Donald Albury (talk) 13:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
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message: Why is Gainesville Wikipedia so boring it doesn't show the real city like the true downtown midtown the Gainesville raceway uf health facility celebration pointe none of that.Who is in charge of this they should be fired 24.136.33.212 (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No one is in charge. We are all volunteers, editing for whatever reason motivates us (although we do frown on, and require full disclosure from, anyone editing for money). With very limited exceptions needed to prevent excessive vandalism and disruptive editing, anyone can edit any article. We do have core content policies that must be adhered to. The content of articles, including images, is also subject to a consensus reached by interested editors. You may boldly edit an article, but any other editor may revert you if they feel the edit was harmful to the article, or even just not needed. If that happens, you are urged to discuss the change on the article talk page (the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle) instead of edit warring. Images used in Wikipedia articles must adhere to the image use policy. This prevents us from using many photos and other images you might feel better represent Gainesville. You can take photos yourself and upload them, preferably to Commons under an appropriate free content license, and then add the photos to the article. Again, though, which images to use in the article, and where and how to dispaly them, is subject to consensus. Donald Albury 21:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

text: A point of information: The Gainesville Raceway is not in the city.Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. I removed it and eight other places, along with three photos of such places, which are not in the City of Gainesville. That included the Ichetucknee Springs State Park, which is not even in Alachua County. Donald Albury 18:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I thank you!  I had intended to do that myself but never got around to identifying everything. Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 19:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gainesville Wikipedia  

message: So those are the only pictures available to represent Gainesville Florida every other city actually shows the city not just bits and pieces and cheap shots of old buildings!! 24.136.33.212 (talk) 02:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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message: This wikipedia still sucks 2600:1006:B138:1E84:3493:B1BE:74CB:449E (talk) 13:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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