Talk:List of castles in Wales

message: I have reverted Enaidmawr's unilateral edits because not only was there no consensus (this page has been organised this way for a long time), the organisation Enaidmawr chose was completely nonsensical. Owain (talk) 17:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case you have done Wikipedia a disservice. One of many Wikipedia mantras is "be bold" and improve articles. This Enaidmawr has done bringing the article into the 21st Century using geographical references that are meaningful to people living in Wales and visiting Wales. Using historic counties adds absolutely nothing and detracts greatly. I fully support and endorse Enaidmawr 's edit and deprecate Owain's. Velela (talk) 20:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your support, Velela. I fear that when Owain says that my rearranging of the article "was completely nonsensical" what he means is that I use the modern administrative areas instead of the ones which have either disappeared or whose boundaries have been changed. Where was the sense of having "castles in Cardiganshire" instead of Ceredigion, for instance, as the former has been replaced by the latter and is not found on modern maps? Most of the castles of Wales on this list were also built before the so-called "historic counties" were created, so their retention would be a double anachronism. What needs improving is the sections on Glamorgan and Gwent (both preserved counties), which need breaking down into their respective modern administrative areas. User Owain's agenda has always been to give the "historical counties" precedence over the modern ones, as the record of his edits proves. As Velela says, we are now in the 21st century: the "historic counties" belong to history. Enaidmawr (talk) 21:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, using modern administrative areas is logical and supported by policy (WP:PLACE). Nev1 (talk) 13:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I've done the splits for Gwent and Glamorgan, but they could do with being checked.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Wikipedia policy is quite clear: use the principal areas, that is modern counties and county boroughs, for lists like this. Skinsmoke (talk) 20:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A little late, but I disagree.  Historically, it has not been the practice to match geographical divisions to administrative areas.  County boroughs existed throughout England and Wales prior to 1974, but it was not considered necessary (although Bristol was sometimes an exception) to exclude them from the counties which contained them, for geographical purposes.  Treating counties and county boroughs in Wales equally for the purposes of geographical division is inconvenient - some might say absurd - in view of the disparity in sizes. Paravane (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic counties

message: ther's much better pictures of castles than the one that is there, just saying. thanks 
list of castles in Scotland in comparrison looks FINNISHED with pictures aswell also. I counted 145 casltes in Wales on that list and ONLY ONE AWEFUL picture to go with it, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.160.253 (talk) 11:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason a picture of Caernarfon was chosen as the lead is because it's probably the best known of the castles in wales and on top of that is part of a World Heritage Site. Unfortunately Wikipedia doesn't have really outstanding photos of the castle, but I think it could be worse. As you say though, the list could do with some work. In the meantime, I have at least added a few other images. Nev1 (talk) 19:26, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison

message: I read above that an earlier reference to "Aberaeron Castle" has been removed (no doubt originally added by someone in good faith), so just to say that I have now added Castell Cadwgan (in Aberaeron) now that the Aberaeron page contains a proper reference to it. I assume that this was the castle which was earlier being referred to, albeit by the wrong name. Hogyn Lleol (talk) 13:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, as I said above Aberaeron Castle is Castell Cadwgan. Nev1 (talk) 13:55, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Castell Cadwgan

message: In its present state this article is not much more than a list of names. I think maybe tables should be introduced with more information and images, similar to the pages for England and Scotland.  Njb19 (talk) 12:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page design 

message: Would this article benefit from having an external link to the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales and its online database: Coflein.
Thank you for considering! Charles.rcahmw (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added Coflein to the external links. As far as I know the RCAHMW does not have any role in managing the castles. Verbcatcher (talk) 23:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales