Talk:J. C. R. Licklider

message: The page on "Joseph Carl Robnett Licklider" cannot be found when you search "Joseph Carl Robnett Licklider" for reasons I do not fully understand and so cannot correct - I think it may be that the title of the page does not use his full name. It finds the page correctly only with "J. C. R. Licklider" and you can get a listing with the page as the top hit using only the surname "Licklider". If someone who knows more about editing a Wikipedia page than I could make an intelligent change so that the Wiki search function picks up this obvious search that would be a great service - or if someone could tell me how to accomplish that goal I will make he change needed. I am a total novice at Wikipedia, not an expert at this topic and probably should not be let loose editing pages...
Ionlycametosay (talk) 22:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a new redirect from the full name. Dicklyon (talk) 00:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: I was disappointed to see that this article makes no mention of Licklider's role in Infocom.  Not serious enough to put here? Mopalia (talk) 17:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not much there, as far as I can see, but a brief mention should be OK.  Dicklyon (talk) 04:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infocom? 

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message: The wiki here says that "unlike many AI practitioners, Licklider never felt that men would be replaced by computer-based beings." In fact, on the second page of "Man-Computer Symbiosis" he writes "In short, it seems worthwhile to avoid argument with (other) enthusiasts for artificial intelligence by conceding dominance in the distant future of cerebration to machines alone." So this does not seem to be altogether valid.https://groups.csail.mit.edu/medg/people/psz/Licklider.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Currandwyer (talk • contribs) 23:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Man-Computer Symbiosis 

message: ...and I felt I should document why.  The link was in what is currently footnote 32, to the article Cogley, Michael (21 August 2020). "AI defeats human F-16 pilot in virtual dogfight". Telegraph Media Group Limited. at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/08/21/ai-defeats-human-f-16-pilot-virtual-dogfight/.  This is behind a paywall.  The link I provided instead (https://www.questia.com/magazine/1G1-632995578/the-defense-advanced-research-projects-agency-s-artificial) is not behind a paywall, and its title "The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's Artificial Intelligence Vision" also seems more relevant in general to the relationship between Licklider and today's DARPA than an article about a virtual dogfight.  That said, this is an article "preview", not the complete article (which is behind a paywall); and this is also the first time I've edited such a link, so I may have left something out. Mcswell (talk) 16:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  I changed a link 

message: The long quotation from Lick's bio was removed with the comment "massive worshipful hagiography unneeded in top paragraph, which should calmly and succinctly summarize article topic", and they might have a point about the top section (it wasn't the top paragraph), but:
* It's about Lick's whole career, not any period in particular, so I don't see an obvious lower section to put it in; if some wants to create a new "Retrospective" summary at the bottom, and put it there, or something like that, that would be fine. But it should be somewhere; he really was that important.
* This isn't written by some deranged fan, it's from Lick's standard bio, which is highly thought of.
* It might sound like a "massive[ly] worshipful hagiography" to someone who's not familiar with the evolution of computer science in the 1960's, but ... read what Robert W. Taylor (who succeeded Lick at IPTO, and did the ARPANET) had to say about Lick here, and you will see that he shared Waldrop's assessment of his importance: "Lick believed we could do better and, more than any other single individual, saw to it that we did." (emphasis added).
* In addition to Taylor, everyone in the MIT LCS/AI building who had ever worked with Lick had the highest respect for him; Corby, Jerry Saltzer, etc (at least one a Turing Award winner).
* If you look at Katie Hafner's "Where Wizards Stay Up Late", it is dedicated to Lick. One more person who wasn't a clueless fan who understood how important he really was.
Like I said, I can see an argument that it doesn't belong in the intro - but that is who he really was, and I think it's important for his article here to say so. 98.166.125.164 (talk) 05:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long quote from his bio