Talk:Secondary education in New Zealand/Archive001

message: I have tried to make this page a bit more useful by adding a link to the ERO, and pushing the link to the NZ Secondary schools category further up the page. A list of nine schools is not really much of an article about  NZ secondary schools. Another option would be to rename this page "Nine Old Schools in NZ".  A much better page would actually discuss secondary schools in NZ -- early years of aping English Public (i.e. Private aka independent) Schools; current role of single-sex schools; selected entry 'Grammar Schools'; rise of co-ed schools; introduction of zoning; current role of independent; special issues relating to Maori language schools; current school governance processes; state integrated schools; the correspondence school; international students and so on.
Neil Leslie 04:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Info 

message: See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools:
    * I think that a school should have at least one of the following to qualify:
       1. Significant architectural legacy
       2. Famous alumni
       3. Historical, documented importance to a community
       4. Building or campus verified as integral in a major historic event
    Davodd 01:40, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC) 
These form a good guideline for inclusion of schools: you can't have a page for the Everytown High School which just describes the statistical data for the school. 
Even for the alumni, it can't be just a list of successful businessmen--the alumni should be nationally significant. 
Therefore schools like Auckland Grammar, Christ's, Nelson and Wellington do rate a mention, whereas without further information I don't think HVHS and Onslow should be there.
To that end the article will be reverted and modified.
202.0.43.44 04:41, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Not every school deserves mention

message: Note that quite a number of schools listed here have articles - many of them highly un-noteworthy, with articles written presumably by current or ex-pupils (Thames High School comes to mind). I certainly think that a considerable number more schools that the highly elitist group currently represented on this page need adding - if there's to be an article at all, there needs to be more on there than half a dozen schools. The top two or three schools in each of the main and provincial centres probably need to be noted (yes, that includes the like of Onslow and Hutt Valley), with more than that for the big cities and possibly some of the smaller centres' schools, too. 
I'm not advocating listing every secondary school in the country, but I am surprised the likes of Otago Boys, James Hargest, Christchurch Boys, and Wesley College aren't on this list.  Grutness|hello?  07:08, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "If a school has an article..."

message: The article now is just a mishmash of info. Needs to be cleaned up.
202.0.40.109 05:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Headings, etc

message: Wallie (correctly) removed some piffle. What is left is not terribly solid either -- "The early schools of the foundation of Governor Sir George Grey were designated "grammar schools"." While Wgtn Coll used to have 'grammar' in its name, what about Nelson Coll and Wang Collegiate? Were these both Grey shcools, and were they both formerly called grammar. What about Otago Boys?
Also "The older schools tend to stay together for sporting competitions." If you look at college sport welllington or college sport auckland you'll find that the old schools tend to compete with all other schools, old or new. Wgtn Coll also says of its sports teams 'most codes' feature 'at the top of the local sporting scene', seeming to indicate that they play against all and sundry.
1904 is also not the only key date.
And why the UK Cadet Force is mentioned is beyond me.Neil Leslie 19:37, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Institutional history