Talk:Coat of arms of Serbia

message: Should there be some mention of Byzantine influence for the firesteels? e.g. the earlier Palaiologos dynasty as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaiologos_dynasty and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_flags_and_insignia 82.16.242.232 (talk) 03:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are credible sources that say this then yes, absolutely. Buttons (talk) 05:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Firesteels 

message: @User:Let's keep it neutral: History of Serbian double-headed eagle is fairly well documented under Serbian eagle, drawing its origins from the Byzantine flags and insignia, which in turn says that  I don't see Albanians mentioned anywhere in either article. So please, keep your, to quote you, fantasies beyond belief out of this article, or provide a WP:RS to the contrary. Thanks. No such user (talk) 10:47, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Albanians are descended from the Illyrians thereby making them the oldest nation in the Balkans, with the oldest language thereby symbolisms. The idea that Albanians would "loan" a symbol of national unity from the Serbs is ludicrous, and an outright insult. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article never stated that Albanians "loaned a symbol of national unity from the Serbs". That is you original synthesis. Both Serbs and Albanian took the symbol from the Byzantines, as it's explained in the article. If you have any reliable source to prove that "the double-headed eagle was first used by Albanians", please, provide it, and let other editors discuss it. Otherwise, stop introducing the same edit for which you have no source. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Byzantines were later-day Romans, they spoke Latin long after the language "died" (or they used it as official). The Illyrians history goes back long before the Byzantines. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 11:03, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a source for the idea that Byzantines spoke Latin and not Greek? At least their clergy spoke Greek, right? Also, can we please have some consensus as to whether or not "loaned" means the same thing as "borrowed"? I don't think it does. I think it is the opposite of "borrowed". If the Byzantines had a symbol earlier and the Albanians had it later, that means the Albanians "borrowed" it and the Byzantines "loaned" it, or, rather, "lent" it. ("Loan" isn't a verb. "Lend" is a verb. Past tense isn't "loaned" but "lent".) And maybe "inherited"/"bequeathed" is a better way to say it than "borrowed"/"lent". Finally, let's not re-write history because some nation is the oldest in the Balkans as if being first confers some kind of superiority or legitimacy, not unless we're willing to rewrite this page in Common Brittonic or Algonquin. People who didn't have the luck to have been descended from the earliest occupants in a place should not be expected to cede primacy to those who are descended from immigrant groups.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 07:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Albanians may be the descendants of Illyrians but there is nothing to say that Illyrians used a double headed eagle as a symbol. The oldest known use of a double headed eagle by Albanians is by the League of Lezhë in circa 1444 which is way after Serbs started to use a double headed eagle as a symbol. The Coat of Arms of Miroslav of Hum used a double headed eagle in the late 1100s. IJA (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbian eagle 

message: Are there any pictures of the Serbian Coat of Arms of the Referendum which was held 1992  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shumokuzame33 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbian Coat of Arms of the 1992-Referendum 

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