Talk:Gene Chizik

message: Until Chizik has been officially announced by Auburn University as their next head coach, it is not official, and the article should not be changed until such a time that happens.  Something very similar happened with the University of Alabama and Rich Rodriguez in 2006, and Alabama ended up hiring Nick Saban in that search, so please do not change the article until it becomes official.  Thanks.  CH52584 (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auburn 

message: Has it been confirmed that Chizik actually played linebacker for UF and was in the 1981 Peach Bowl?  He doesn't seem to have lettered at UF judging by the official record books.
In a preview of his new book Chizik makes no mention of ever playing college football, although some of the book was omitted from the preview.  However, this should be addressed.  Why doesn't someone just ask Coach Chizik point blank?  Media?  Where are the AU beat writers on this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.221.212.197 (talk) 22:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice research. I removed all mentions in the article of him as a former player. Did he not play football at all? In the Mike Leach article, there is a part that says Mark Mangino at Kansas, Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech, Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, David Cutcliffe at Duke, and George O'Leary at UCF as the only Division I coaches who have never played the game. Chizik's not included in this list...I'll look into it and see what I can find. BlueAg09 (Talk) 06:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It states in his biography from the Auburn University Athletic Media Relations department found here: , that he played at Florida in 1981. That is all that is listed so I removed the Peach Bowl note. Probably the only way we'll be able to know if he played in the game is if there is a participation chart from the game is published online. (which is highly unlikely) I did put everything else regarding his playing at UF in 1981 back in the article. (the info box and note in opening) Rtr10 (talk) 07:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Just because someone does not earn a letter does not mean they did not play. A letter is earned for a certain amount of time (or achievment) contributed to the team. There is sourced information from a very' reliable source that he played at Florida (the fact that you say "Just because a sports information office put it, doesn't make it true." is laughable, SID and Media Relation offices are the most reliable sources we have in college football) The only way you can say that he did not play, when there is a reliable source saying otherwise, is to look at each participation chart, from every game of that season. With out that you can't remove information from a reliable source, especially when there is no real evidence to believe he didn't play to begin with. There are 105 members of college football team. A handful are remembered from year to year. Just because some people don't recall him playing there, does not give us standing to say he didn't when there is clear, reliable sourced information that says he did. Rtr10 (talk) 07:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playing experience 

message: This whole screed with Charles Barkley belongs in Charles barkley's wiki page in a controversy section. Not here. No one cares what some fat racist basketball player has to say esxcept for other racists.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.29.150 (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would actually best be served in either the Auburn University or Auburn Tigers football article. It is however, still relevant to Chizik's article, because of the unusually high level of resistance met by the fan base, media and public after his hiring, so it is hard to say it doesn't play here. And kind of a different subject, but Charles Barkley isn't really a racist. If you are going to through around that term, it would stick a lot more to the Auburn University Board of Trustee's than it would Barkley, not that it is really relevant. Rtr10 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This whole thing is stupid. The guy was an assistant with Tommy at Auburn. I guess it's racist to hire someone who actually has connections? Affirmative action has no place in college football and neither does Charles Barkley. When Chizik wins the SEC title in 4 years you'll all look stupid. And Turner Gill will end up at a place better than Auburn.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.165.224 (talk) 08:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I do agree that Turner Gill will end up in a better position, however in my honest opinion it is pretty ignorant to say the Auburn University Board of Trustees, Bobby Lowder in particular (who are all WAYYYYY to involved in the operation of the football program) are not racist. It is pretty much common knowledge that Gill didn't get the job because he is married to a white woman. That's just unacceptable. Gill clearly had a much better resume. (to even imply that Chizik was on his level is laughable) I don't feel sorry for Gill at all and not sorry for Auburn, because they will get whats coming to them for what they did. Rtr10 (talk) 01:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quoting racist basketball players, why? 

message: repeated, unsportmanlike and deadly assaults by Aubrun players during 2010 (see Georgia and championship games esp) prove weak coaching by persons with bad character; see also esp the stunt to fake an injury in beginning of championship game... using any ploy to cheat a win... and additionally, the swaggering and strutting by Chizik, observable by all, for this weak champions 7 very narrow wins prove a head coach of arrogant, weak nature - please add these facts to article, CH52584
:These aren't so much facts as they are opinions and accusations. Regardless, can you point to reliable, third party sources that support your claims? Mosmof (talk) 16:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: weak character

message: This is a pretty unsubstantiated quote:  "Chizik's name came up frequently as a coach who would be on the hot seat for the following season, though all acknowledged the difficulty of the job given the lack of resources and difficult schedule.[14][15][16]"
Any job is difficult for a coach that isn't very good.  Previous coaches have had far more success than Chizik, as is the current coach.  This looks like a fabrication created by an Auburn fan to prop up the fact that Chizik was hired away while riding a 10-game losing streak.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.214.143.83 (talk) 01:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  'All' admit difficulty of Iowa State job? 

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