Talk:Saponin

message: It's also present in Rambutan, a tropical fruit that looks a lot like Lychee.
Is all the information given is correct and authenthic  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.41.109.2 (talk) 11:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rambutan

message: Is this related to Saporin? if so, it may be worth linking the articles. --YakbutterT (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No!!! saporin and saponin are completely different molecules from different plant species, Saponaria offcianalis in the case of SAPORIN and many many different plant species in the case of saponins. Saporin is a protein with a molecular weight of 29.5kD that acts as an N-glycoside enzyme that specifically depurinates 28S ribosomal RNA thus irreversibly inactivating protein synthesis in the cell. Saponins are completely different types of molecules based on either a sterol or aglycone core to which one or two carbohydrate side chains are appended. SAPORIN and SAPONIN have very similar names(and confusing sometimes to even those of us who work with both molecules in the lab!) because they form "soapy" like films in water and of course the Latin for soap is sapo hence the names.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.234.163 (talk) 19:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [Saporin] 

message: if you are confused by the intro, it is not your fault: it is terrible, almost incomprehensible writing - something a 14 year old might put together  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.195.10.169 (talk) 19:11, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: attention non native english speakers

message: There is wrong picture, solanin is an alkaloid, not saponin. Vojtěch Zavadil (talk) 07:21, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Solanin is both an alkaloid and a saponin.  ChemNerd (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: wrong picture 

message: Why are grains that contain saponins not mentioned? Quinoa, millet and many more have saponins for protection against bugs etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lityf (talk • contribs) 13:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saponins in/on grains 

message: Why are grains that contain saponins not mentioned? Quinoa, millet and many more have saponins for protection against bugs etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lityf (talk • contribs) 13:28, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saponins in/on grains 

message: The lead is incomprehensible to anyone without a PhD in organic chemistry. I have a college-level education in chemistry and can make only vague sense of it. There are 9 words of chemical jargon in the lead paragraph, plus two technical terms, “phenomenologically” and “aqueous” that the average reader (high school level) probably won’t know the meaning of. The lede sentence, while it contains no jargon, is the epitomy of vapidity.
How about a sentence like, “Saponins are foamy additives that give a mug of root beer its characteristic head, among other dietary and medicinal uses.” That is very accessible though not very precise, and most of what anyone except a chemist needs to know. Precision can come later.
I note that another editor above warns that the article is not comprehensible to non-Englitch speakers. Maybe he thought it was written in a foreign language (actually, it is - chemical jargon). It is not comprehensible to native speakers of Englitch, either.
It needs a basic redraft, moving the jargon to a technical sidebar or footnote.Sbalfour (talk) 11:11, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomprehensible lead (jargon) 

message: This section has a daunting 32 jargon terms. In addition it does not describe the process of biosynthesis as the title implies, and several times references a diagram not in the section. I suspect the entire section was copyvio-ed, but not the image, due to Wikipedia’s heavy scrutiny of images.
I’m going to spend some time investigating, but even if it’s original to the encyclopedia, it’s grossly inaccessible to anyone but a professional organic chemist. Saponins are indeed a rather broad set of structures, but professional chemists do not get their info from Wikipedia, and I do think that a diagram with examples would speak a thousand words. Either way, the section needs redrafted to dump the chemical jargon or relegate it to a technical footnote. Sbalfour (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical structure

message: For centuries, the only relevance of saponins was their use in soap making. Yet the article contains no info on how the relevant plants are identified, what parts are used, and how one gets from weeds in the backwoods to a bar of soap. In large parts of today's world, that’s still the most relevant use of saponins. The encyclopedia is not a how-to manual, but a substantive overview of this seems a very valuable addition to the article.  Sbalfour (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soap 

message: Basic information to add to this article: the pronunciation(s) of this word. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 18:55, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  To add to article 

message: What r they 219.74.185.117 (talk) 07:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saponin from celery physical properties