Talk:Kangxi Emperor

message: Dates of reign do not math those of the Qing Dynasty article. olivier 11:48, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Even dates in the same article don't match up.  When did the reign start?  1661 or 1662? – Robocoder (t|c) 18:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Abstrakt has explained to me that era years span the lunar year.  Thanks. – Robocoder (t|c) 21:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I corrected that. NickDupree (talk) 19:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early comments

message: This article desperately needs some improvement. Missing are the details on the struggle for power with Oboi and Banburshan, revolt of the three feudatories and retaking Taiwan. Colipon – (Talk) 16:47, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvement 

message: The english part says that kangxi become emperor at the age of 7, but some other languages says 8.
:That's probably because the old Chinese way of telling age (虚岁) is one year difference than the typical western way of telling age. The old way makes the child one at the moment of birth. Colipon+(T) 17:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Age of succession

message: Can someone please mark the tones on the transcription of his posthumous name? – Blackfield 22:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posthumous name 

message: Actually two contradictions. One is minor, the other is not. Between ". In 1690, the Dzungar and the Manchu Empire clashed at the battle of Ulaan Butun in Inner Mongolia, during which the Qing army was severely mauled by Galdan." and (from the article about Galdan) "The Qing deceived him to arrive near Beijing saying that they needed a treaty, but ambushed him at Ulaan Budan, where Galdan's troops were seriously defeated by the Khalkha troops supported by the Qing army". Avihu (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I have restructured this article and improved the wording in a lot of places. I hope I haven't lost any facts or misconstrued anything that I found ambiguous. 
Some questions:
* Why was this emperor born on two dates (4 May 1654 in intro, 12 May 1654 in Kangxi Emperor#Early reign)? I would have thought this was difficult even for an emperor to do! 
* What are references "Mantienne", "Manteigne" and "Les Missions Etrangeres"? They are mentioned in Kangxi Emperor#Notes but not given in full anywhere. 
* Should this article now be rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale? (See top of this page.)
* Why is this article marked "contains original research"? Is it because of the section on Kangxi Emperor#Disputed succession? 
* The section on Kangxi Emperor#Disputed succession is too long for this article. Could it go in a (new?) subsidiary article? It overlaps a lot of detail on the same subject in Yongzheng Emperor#Disputed Succession to the throne. 
AWhiteC (talk) 16:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have subsequently added a section called 'Personality and achievements' using material out of S. E. Finer's History of government. AWhiteC (talk) 00:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Hi. Thanks for the input. As I see it, the notes/references are in transition from notes-only format to notes+references format, if you see what I mean. I admit to being responsible for starting this change. Feel free to either continue the change-over or revert it as you see fit. As for sources; as I understand it, these are works that are not explicitly referenced in the text, so a separate section is needed. Let me know what you think. AWhiteC (talk) 12:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major restructuring and questions 

message: "prisoner of five boulders" is a feature film based on episodes in the emperor kangxi's life.  specifically, it details his (alleged) search for his father.  the film was apparently produced in mainland china and features an actor known as "wang ju" as the emperor.  an actor called "yang dezhi" also appeared in the film.  i'd be interested in getting more information about this picture. (i've seen it, but my copy doesn't include a credit sequence.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.19.236.170 (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  kangxi emperor in popular culture 

message: Surely there are far too many "Issue" listed in the infobox? It is pushing all the pictures down on the page. Can the issue not be listed in the text instead? Cannot we have "Issue - See text"? Any other suggestions for shortening the infobox would be welcome. "Creating overly long templates with a number of irrelevant fields is not recommended." (MoS (infoboxes)) AWhiteC (talk) 00:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox too long 

message: I have reinstated this section because it is important. It may lack citations and have other inadequacies, but surely all that means that it should be provided with citations etc, rather than be deleted altogether. AWhiteC (talk) 22:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not the only problem. I don't dispute that it's important, nor do I even dispute its factual accuracy. But it needs to be fit into the greater context of the article, cleaned-up, and give its due weight. It's inappropriate to just slap on a section without discussing its relevance in the greater context. The citation is a problem, which merely adds to my case for deleting the section. Colipon+(Talk) 00:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have renamed and tweaked the section. I don't have a reference for the data, so can't provide a citation. Having renamed the section, it now needs more content; there's more to an economy than the state treasury! AWhiteC (talk) 21:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You just changed the title of the section - it's not much of a substantive change and still looks like a slap-on section. If you're going to put something like that on there please explain in at least one paragraph what significance it has and make an effort to tie it to the rest of the article. Otherwise I am sure other editors would concur with me for deleting that section. Colipon+(Talk) 14:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually added a citation to the National treasury part. But I don't know whether it will be enough to validate it. Maybe someone can still help us to work on this section.:)--Tiffa966 (talk) 02:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  National treasury 

message: I have reverted edits made by Xuansit as they seem wrong. The names of two offspring of the emperor had been changed. The resulting names don't look right as Chinese words, so I am doubtful if this is valid. If you have any comments on this, please put them below. AWhiteC (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They looked just fine as Chinese words to me, and doing a quick look-up over at mandarintools.com shows that "禶" is in fact zan3, and "禕" is yi1. siafu (talk) 18:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Offspring of emperor 

message: Rund Van, Thanks for adding the section "Sacred Edicts of the Kangxi Emperor". Could you please add in some text at the top of that section to explain what it is all about. Also, are you sure it belongs in a separate section? It seems to consist of s list of sources, so perhaps it should go in the "Sources" section? AWhiteC (talk) 18:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They were edicts issued by the Kangxi emperor and later expanded by his son Yongzheng. Nothing to explain further. They aren't used as sources so they shouldn't go into the source section.22:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get this! It's usual to give information and then provide citations to sources. You seem to have provided citations without the information they relate to. Also, it isn't clear to me why there are seven of them. Sorry to ask questions, but it just seems unusual. In what sense are the edicts considered sacred? AWhiteC (talk) 22:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the irrelevant text.  Rund Van habitually adds huge amounts of mostly irrelevant content to various articles.  --Zanhe (talk) 04:54, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sacred Edicts 

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Title	Handbook of Oriental Studies. Section 8 Uralic & Central Asian Studies, Manchu Grammar
Volume 7 of Handbook of Oriental Studies
Volume 7 of Handbook of Oriental Studies. Section 8 Uralic and Central Asian Studies
Volume 7 of Handbook of oriental studies : Sect. 8, Central Asia / Handbuch der Orientalistik / 8
Volume 7 of Handbuch der Orientalistik. Achte Abteilung, Handbook of Uralic studies
Volume 7 of Handbuch der Orientalistik: Achte Abteilung, Central Asia
Handbuch der Orientalistik: Zentralasien
Editor	Liliya M. Gorelova
Publisher	Brill Academic Pub, 2002
Original from	the University of Virginia
Digitized	Oct 17, 2007
, 9789004123076
Length	600 pages
Subjects	History › Europe › General
Rajmaan (talk) 03:54, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kangxi's extermination of the Manchu Hoifan (Hoifa) and Ula tribes after they rebelled against the Qing 

message: I took the liberty of cutting:
::According to some accounts, Shunzhi gave up the throne to Kangxi and became a monk.  Several alternative explanations are given for this: one is that it was due to the death of his favorite concubine; another is that he was under the influence of a Buddhist monk. The story goes that Shunzhi did indeed become a monk, but the empress dowager ordered the deletion of the incident from official history records, and replacement with the claim that he died from smallpox.
 
I couldn't find this material in the source:  but someone might be able to cast it in a different form in a new later section. ch (talk) 05:31, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later romantic stories 

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message: There is a discussion about the Kangxi Emperor's date of birth which was started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Kangxi Emperor's date of birth. Please comment there if interested. Adumbrativus (talk) 05:02, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion of date of birth at WikiProject China 

message: To add to this article: the Kangxi Emperor's cause of death. In the Wikipedia article for the book Treason by the Book, it states that the Kangxi Emperor and his brothers may have been murdered, but this information is not mentioned in the current version of this article. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the suggestion. However, I think the article for Treason by the Book is unclear/incorrect on this detail. I don't have a copy of the book with me, but was able to find an excerpt, which details the accusations as "the emperor [Yongzheng] has murdered several of his brothers, both older and younger; he has plotted against his parents..." The rumors of plotting are already mentioned in this article, so I don't think it needs a change. If anything, the article on the book probably needs editing, but I'm not willing to do it without having a full copy to do a better check. If you have the book and can find a quote for the murder allegation, please let me know.--Shmarrighan (talk) 22:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article

message: The foot binding page refers to an unsuccessful attempt by Kangxi to end foot binding. It would be interesting to see some corroboration on this article. So many different motivations could be behind it. Jyg (talk) 08:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempt to ban foot binding? 

message: Couldn't Emperor Kangxi's "Guidelines for Families" (《庭訓格言》) count as a cultural achievement? Apisite (talk) 07:36, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guidelines for Families