Talk:Good Vibrations

message: Throughout the article, there are references to what the recording costs would be in today's dollars. We should specify a year, is it 2016 dollars, or an earlier year? Tidewater 2014 (talk) 19:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The number is calculated by . You are right though, apparently, a year is supposed to be specified by .--Ilovetopaint (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost in "today's" dollars 

message: I'm moving this table here until better sources can be found:
Session date	Used	Distinction              	Studio                  	Note(s)
February 17 	    	"#1–Untitled"            	Gold Star Studios       	Pet Sounds session; only verse backing track in final mix
March 3     	    	                         	United Western Recorders	Pet Sounds session; vocal overdubs
April 9     	    	                         	Gold Star Studios       	Pet Sounds session
May 4       	    	"First chorus"           	Gold Star Studios       	
May 4       	    	"Second chorus"          	Gold Star Studios       	"First episode" in final mix
May 4       	    	"Fade"                   	Gold Star Studios       	
May 24      	    	"Parts 1–4"              	Sunset Sound Recorders  	
May 25      	    	                         	Sunset Sound Recorders  	
May 27      	    	"Part C"                 	United Western Recorders	
May 27      	    	"Chorus"                 	United Western Recorders	
May 27      	    	"Fade Sequence"          	United Western Recorders	
June 2 (1)  	    	(Inspiration) "Parts 1–4"	United Western Recorders	
June 2 (2)  	    	(Inspiration) "Parts 1–4"	United Western Recorders	
June 12     	    	(Inspiration) "Parts 1–4"	United Western Recorders	
June 16 (1) 	    	"Part 1"                 	United Western Recorders	This session was filmed
June 16 (1) 	    	"Part 2"                 	United Western Recorders	This session was filmed
June 16 (1) 	    	"Part 3"                 	United Western Recorders	This session was filmed
June 16 (2) 	    	"Verse"                  	United Western Recorders	This session was filmed
June 18     	    	"Part 1"                 	United Western Recorders	
June 18     	    	"Part 2"                 	United Western Recorders	
August 24   	    	                         	Sunset Sound Recorders  	Overdubs and early mix
August ??   	    	                         	CBS Columbia Square     	Vocal overdubs, between August 24 and September 1
August ??   	    	                         	CBS Columbia Square     	Vocal overdubs, between August 24 and September 1
September 1 	    	(Persuasion)             	United Western Recorders	A session may have also occurred for "He Gives Speeches".
September 1 	    	"New Bridge"             	United Western Recorders	"Second episode" in final mix
September ??	    	                         	United Western Recorders	Editing
September 12	    	                         	CBS Columbia Square     	Vocal overdubs; filming
September 21	    	                         	CBS Columbia Square     	Vocal and theremin overdubs; final mixdown; filming
--Ilovetopaint (talk) 14:57, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sessionography

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message: The presence or absence of a theremin in this piece is an ongoing dueling point among music-nerds worldwide, and I'm afraid this article demonstrates the hash that a dozen-odd music-nerds can make of a crowd-sourced encyclopedia entry about it. After 18 clear references to a "theremin" (OK, 17 clear references and one implication), with only about a third of the long article to go, we encounter this line: 
"Even though the song does not technically contain a theremin, 'Good Vibrations' is the most frequently cited example of the instrument in pop music."
Huh? (Also, I remind you that you've already told me 17 1/2 times that it does contain a theremin.)
I'm not going to stir this pot, but I'd just like to point out that we have a problem here. For the record, I'm an antithereminite. The instrument in question is properly an Electro-Theremin, which is not in fact a theremin, for the same reason a piano is not a harp even though it does have one inside it. But I ain't tryin' to whack that hornet's nest. 
Perhaps someone haler than I can strip out all the unqualified references to "theremin" and add a clear, unequivocal line at the first reference of "theremin", acknowledging the confusion, explaining it, and boldly pointing out that there is, in fact, no theremin in Good Vibrations. I suspect this article is being referenced wherever combative music-nerds meet (it's how I ended up here) and as written, it is at present not contributing to the cause of world peace. Laodah 03:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. To my understanding, "no physical contact" is a requirement for a theremin to be a theremin. This should be clarified as soon as the instrument is mentioned.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 04:08, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Theremin problem

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message: Let's Go Away for Awhile is mentioned as the B side of Good Vibrations, but I believe this was only in the US. I remember Wendy being the B side in the UK, & this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_(song) suggests this was the case everywhere outside of the US, so it would be good if this was referenced in the main page for Good Vibrations.
Fletch99 (talk) 18:04, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  B Side 

message: "Good Vibrations" was not an extraordinarily expensive single because it had all sorts of bells & whistles that were considered state-of-the-art for 1966, it was expensive because of how much time was invested in getting its performance and arrangement right. There is no act today that could record a song in their bedroom and have it come out like "Good Vibrations". You have to be in a professional studio space working with actual humans and magnetic tape. However, today it's much easier for artists to plan out their arrangements with software. If Wilson was able to hear his completed arrangements before entering the studio, then certainly it would have saved a lot of recording time, which means less hourly costs.
But actually, that was never the point. The reason to note inflation is to acknowledge the fact that $50,000 had over 7x more value in 1966 than it does in 2017. It does not suggest that you still need $300k to make a record like this in 2017. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern standard of recording costs 

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message: There exists video footage of some of the recording sessions, which show not just Mike, Carl and Brian participating in providing vocals, but also Al, Dennis and Bruce in the backing. It's obvious they all appear on the final song as their voices can be heard (the chorus alone has nine distinct vocal lines). Does this footage suffice as a source, or does it need to be written down somewhere? CityFeedback talk 22:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Film footage is a primary source and an interpretation of film footage by Wikipedia editors is original research. We can only use published secondary-source material. freshacconci (✉) 04:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the fact that more than three voices can be heard in the song? Is this an "interpretation" that needs to be found written down? CityFeedback talk 16:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personnel 

message: I think this is the right source interpretation but I'd appreciate if someone else could look at it and fix or change if appropriate.  Thanks.  2602:24A:DE47:BA60:8FCB:EA4E:7FBD:4814 (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please check this edit 

message: Differences/similarities between original and 2004 Brian Wilson version of Good Vibrations? 2600:1700:5F20:5E40:D463:52EA:1C0D:228B (talk) 21:38, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to revive this question. The 2004 BWPS version uses different lyrics (the original Tony Asher one?) and seems like it deserves a discussion, maybe in the "Releases" section. · rodii · 16:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brian Wilson version 

message: Both Al and Bruce are credited with backing and harmony vocals in the smile sessions booklet/sessionography. If you want to see it, this link has the booklet free to view on page 13. https://archive.org/details/the-beach-boys-the-smile-sessions-book-small-pages-deleted/page/n12/mode/1up?view=theater  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.251.66.182 (talk) 18:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al and Bruce are credited on the booklet 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Good Vibrations's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "GIGS66":
From Surf's Up (song): 
From You're Welcome (song): 
From List of unreleased songs recorded by the Beach Boys: 
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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Good Vibrations]] 

message: Glen claims to have played guitar on this record and some sources confirm this, while other sources say he was absent for the recording and giving that he's not listed in this article, does anyone have more info on this? 2601:242:8200:A970:3D2C:682F:94BE:F87 (talk) 17:17, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup: neither the AFM contracts nor the session tapes support Glen's claim to have played on "GV". Granted, the AFM sheets could be in error, but if he did play on any sessions, then no-one, including Brian, ever mentioned him by name! Andrew G. Doe (talk) 20:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glen Campbell