Talk:Dianne Wiest

message: birthdata database has her born in 1946.As does intelius.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaudeville2009 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That is accurate. I corrected the article. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I agree. I've removed the date of birth information in this edit. Our biographies of living persons policy is very clear that we require reliable sources, none of which have been provided in this case. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Pinging All Hallow's Wraith in case they would like weigh in. I realize it's been many years since this issue was first raised. I did some quick searching earlier today and I couldn't find anything definitive or authoritative. Some interviews mention an age (this piece for example says 66 and was published in 2015), but none of them aligned with a birth year of 1946. While date of birth is a key and standard part of a human biography, we really must err on the side of caution here and not include a date of birth unless it's appropriately sourced. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a note that her birth year is “contested” and provided two sources for both ‘46 and ‘48. Chadwick Boseman had a similar debate about a year ago. Perhaps the 1946 sources are just outliers, but feel we can’t have *no* birth year in a biography article; 1948 seems to be the better-sourced/more prevailing date, though. TropicAces (talk) 16:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi TropicAces. Thank you for investigating this. Do we have any other sources besides TV Tropes for 1946? TV Tropes is a wiki (example page history) and I'm not sure it's considered reliable for a biography of a living person. I get a feeling that TV Tropes was following Wikipedia in this case. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  1946 

message: She was born in 1948, not in 1946 as this page has somehow is led to believe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.189.88 (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of Birth 

message: In the interview cited in the note, nothing is said about the age of Dianne Wiest. Cher was 44 at the time. Just read with attention https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=YudPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fAgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6758,3397621  Enrico Marletti
: Yeah, I agree. I've removed the date of birth information in this edit. Our biographies of living persons policy is very clear that we require reliable sources, none of which have been provided in this case. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging All Hallow's Wraith in case they would like weigh in. I realize it's been many years since this issue was first raised. I did some quick searching earlier today and I couldn't find anything definitive or authoritative. Some interviews mention an age (this piece for example says 66 and was published in 2015), but none of them aligned with a birth year of 1946. While date of birth is a key and standard part of a human biography, we really must err on the side of caution here and not include a date of birth unless it's appropriately sourced. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a note that her birth year is “contested” and provided two sources for both ‘46 and ‘48. Chadwick Boseman had a similar debate about a year ago. Perhaps the 1946 sources are just outliers, but feel we can’t have *no* birth year in a biography article; 1948 seems to be the better-sourced/more prevailing date, though. TropicAces (talk) 16:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi TropicAces. Thank you for investigating this. Do we have any other sources besides TV Tropes for 1946? TV Tropes is a wiki (example page history) and I'm not sure it's considered reliable for a biography of a living person. I get a feeling that TV Tropes was following Wikipedia in this case. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of birth - interview 

message: In the interest of accuracy, the year of her birth is 1946. This is because of the following conclusive evidence, all of which is found on Ancestry.com.
1). A passenger manifest of 19 August 1948 shows Dianne E. Wiest arriving in New York on the Cunard liner SS Queen Elizabeth with her mother Anne S. Wiest, 28, born in Scotland. Dianne is shown as born in Missouri and is 2 years of age. This can only be the Dianne E. Wiest in question here, the later actress, because of all the data.
2). The outbound passenger manifest for the same voyage from 14 August 1948 shows Dianne Wiest departing with Anne Wiest from Southampton, England on the SS Queen Elizabeth as well, with the added detail that the birthplace of Anne is Auchtermuclty, Fife, Scotland. Their ages are again given as 2 and 28 respectively.
3). A more extensive record in the U.S., Index to Public Records, 1994-2019, shows Dianne E. Wiest residing at several addresses in Manhattan and born in March 1946.
4). The U.S., Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1, gives addresses of Dianne E. Wiest in 1986, 1990, and 1991 in New York and states that her birthdate is 28 March 1946.
5). In the U.S., Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2, there is an entry for Dianne E. Wiest, residing at 1278 W 79 St 8c in New York, born on 28 March 1946.
6). The U.S., Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2, also shows Dianne E. Wiest residing at Williams College in Williamstown, MA, and gives her birthdate as 28 March 1946.
7). No public records show the supposed alternative date of 1948.
Now, I mean no harm to this talented and accomplished actress, but the actual truth ought to be brought out. Just because 1948 is more frequent on the Internet means nothing; none of those are documentary sources.LCalpurniusPiso (talk) 04:29, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of birth - evidence 

message: Possible vandalism of this page was mentioned on Last Week Tonight by John Oliver on 13 November 2016.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C581:4A40:F0E3:44B:EA64:D558 (talk) 16:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the image we have. If you can find a better, freely-licenced alternative, put a note at WP:Files for upload and we'll replace it. -- AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 21:54, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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