Talk:Yellow Submarine (film)

message: Hi folks. Im pretty sure I've heard the "Pepperland" song used as a theme in some other film/series (because I recognized the song, but I never watched the Yellow Submarine film). Any clues? Thanks... Quase 03:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pepperland song usage in other films

message: Under "Voices", it's stated that it's Paul Angelis. However if you go to Peter Batten's stub article, the replacement voice work is attributed to Geoffrey Hughes (Paul). Could someone knowledgable please correct this contradiction?Shawn in Montreal 20:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually just watched the special features on my 99 DVD release and Angelis states he did "George" after Batten's arrest. I believe that same interview is included on the "re-mastered" DVD release also.THX1136 (talk) 23:44, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the stub article no longer exists, no edit is necessary.THX1136 (talk) 01:14, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Did Geoffrey Hughes or Paul Angelis voice "George" after Peter Batten's arrest?

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message: It looks like this article was redirected here with the edit summary saying it was merged but I see no mention of it in this article. -- œ™ 20:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Taken care of. The film is now mentioned in the article. Thanks for the sudgestion, couldn't have done it without you.--Bob doe jr. the third (talk) 02:15, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As Inspector Clouseau would say, "Not anymore." At any rate, according to the revived Beatles Monthly Book (some reportage, I believe, by Mark Lewisohn), Strawberry Fields Forever was intended to be a sequel to YS, not a remake, and was spearheaded by Michael Jackson. 2601:545:8201:6290:1800:CAA7:E2A6:A386 (talk) 21:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Strawberry Fields Forever (film)]] - not merged? 

message: Pop culture adds
In The Rutles: All you need is cash and The Rutles 2: Can't buy me lunch There was a clip that parodied the yellow submarine called the yellow submarine sandwich, with the song 'cheese and Onions. A link to that video can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaHG6g7uFw
In the Simpsons episode 'El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Homer' {The Mysterious Voyage of Homer} The pyramid-thing that Homer climbs to see the coyote/fox looks exactly like the one Old Fred had to climb in "Yellow Submarine"  
in the episode 'Last Exit to Springfield'  Lisa's dentist dream sequence turns into a missing scene from the Yellow Submarine film ("Look, it's Lisa in the sky", "No diamonds though"). 
In the Tree house of Horror XIX Mini episode 'How to Get Ahead in Dead-vertising' John is seen coming out of 'celebrity heaven' riding a Yellow Submarine. John says to the camera "All we are saying is, LETS EAT SOME BRAINS!"
In the teen titans Episode 'Revelation' there were multiple references to the Beatles Yellow Submarine. The titans are scene getting lost in the sea of holes, and Cyborgs arm double as a bad guy {Like the blue glove} Look at this link for more: http://video.filestube.com/video,80d6c6a2b03fecf503ea.html.
In the southpark episode Imaginationland Episode I, II and III {later re-realeased all together Imaginationland: The Movie} when the group travels to Imagination land, two of the amaginary creatures are both blue meanies, though one having what looks like a candy cane for a leg. 
In the  series episode, 'Grand Theft Starship' when princess vespa is deciding which ship to highjack, she looks through a bunch of ships, one resembling the yellow submarine, to it she sais "No, too yellow."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolith365 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop culture adds 

message: Are you sure this film was originally released with Hey Bulldog included in Europe? I recorded it off German TV when it was broadcast for the 30th anniversary of Sgt. Pepper in 1997, and Hey Bulldog's not in there, nor is the scene of The Beatles talking to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band after freeing them from the bubble, as well as some additional material being notably different, such as when George leaps off Billy Shears's giant head, or the attack launched against the Blue Meanies after All you need is love.
There are more clues when comparing it to the 1999 re-release, both theatrically and on DVD. Over here, DVDs are mostly released with several language tracks (on TV, all you ever see are German dubs), and the original German dub from 1968 that they used on the DVD (theatrically, only the English version was released in 1999) lacks the restored scenes and for the DVD they used other voice actors there instead (for example, in 1968, John was dubbed by what would many years later be Eddie Murphy's German standard voice, Paul by that of John Candy, etc., and in 1999 they used rather unknown stock voice actors for these missing scenes). Also, ironically, their performance of Baby you're a rich man that they do in my 1997 TV recording after freeing Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is removed in the 1999 re-release and replaced with the two bands talking to each other instead. I also remember reading in news magazines quite a few times for its theatrical re-release in 1999 that "lost segments" had been restored that had never been in ANY release, German, European, or otherwise.
I doubt that for some odd reason, only the US version was licensed for German TV distribution and some people preparing the German DVD release didn't bother to look up their archives with the 1968 dubbing masters. For instance, when they re-released the full version of Lawrence of Arabia back in the late 1980s, people had been cutting all available positive prints by at least an hour. Luckily, the negatives had been saved, but these turned out to be silent and all English soundtracks were lost by then, so the film was entirely re-dubbed in English for its re-release. However, all this was an entire non-issue with the German re-release as even though no film prints were available, the German mono dubbing masters of the complete film had been preserved and were later used for its DVD release. The result is rather interesting when switching language tracks on the German DVD, as even though both language tracks were heavily restored, they often deviate in sound FX and ambience (with the German version obviously including the original sounds, and the English version being re-recorded in the late 1980s), and one of Lawrence's two Arabic servants sounds only half as young in the German version as he does in the English one. So it's probably safe to say that German dubbing studios do go through some lengths for their DVD releases of classic films. --79.193.36.22 (talk) 22:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  US and European versions 

message: Although I am personally not looking forward to Disney remaking Yellow Submarine (I even created a Facebook group months ago in protest.), it's going to happen. I suggest splitting the remake into its own article titled Yellow Submarine (Disney film). Although Disney is planning on releasing it in time for the 2012 Summer Olympics in London, aside from that there really is no timetable on its release, hence why I put "Disney film" in the disambiguation section as opposed to the year. If not now, it will need split eventually. Jgera5 (talk) 00:21, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that the project's been cancelled, I've turned the split article back into a redirect. What we have at this article is sufficient.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disney remake 

message: * The article says "a cheerful music-loving paradise under the sea", but in Pepperland (rather than in the regions passed through earlier) nearly all the people and objects depicted behave as in full out-of-water gravity, and no scuba gear or other breathing apparatus is shown. When I saw the film I got the impression that the events in Pepperland happen out of water and that the yellow submarine has a magical or science-fiction type ability to sail in air as well as underwater. As regards using the song as a source ref for the film, there is another discrepancy: the song says "a land of submarines", but the film shows only one submarine. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The narrator says at the beginning of the film that Pepperland is under the sea (I can't remember the depth given). It's just a cartoon – it doesn't matter that people can't really breathe under water. The opening credits of the film say the film is based on the song "Yellow Submarine". The plot of the film is completely different to anything in the song; the film was more inspired by the song really. However, at the end of the opening credits, the Yellow Submarine sails past submarines of different colours. McLerristarr | Mclay1 11:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Pepperland underwater?

message: The article cites: "...reminiscent of Walt Disney's Fantasia (and foreshadowing the rise of music videos and MTV thirteen years later". "Foreshadow" defines: –verb (used with object) to show or indicate beforehand; prefigure (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/foreshadow). Then, the sentence "foreshadowing the rise of music videos and MTV thirteen years later" is a subjective point of view, since it suggests that the film "Yellow Sumbarine" as the actual predecessor of MTV or the music video art form, a very-very discutable opinion -- that's why I ask for an exact citation on this precise sentence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.230.198.184 (talk) 11:07, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The film contains animations set to music. I don't see how that needs a citation. Foreshadowing doesn't suggest that MTV was inspired by the film, just that it contains scenes similar to video clips before video clips became popular. McLerristarr | Mclay1 05:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Do "Yellow Submarine" foreshadow MTV and the music video art form?

message: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yellow-submarine-undersea/id481562846?ls=1&mt=8
Description: 
             
       
Designed for kids and families, Yellow Submarine Undersea Adventure allows you to choose from up to 6 different undersea locations and five different submarines. Then you set off on exciting adventures to explore mysterious undersea locations, battle sea monsters, enemy subs and discover exotic sea creatures, hidden treasures and the secrets to the lost city of Atlantis. 
             
As you advance, through your undersea adventure, you must collect enough treasures and pearls to fund your expedition and make it to the next location. Along the way you will defeat enemy sub attacts and undersea enemies like jellyfish, sharks, and octopuss. If you are successful, you will discover the lost city of Atlantis and all it's hidden treasures.
Features: 
•Game Center Support for High Scores & Achievements 
•Multiple control schemes for your sub (touch controls, swipe control, arcade control) 
• High Definition Custom 3D Graphics (Orca whales, penguins, angler fish, sharks, enemy subs, octopus, tropical fish, jelly fish, electric eels, and other undersea creatures!) 
• Original Sound Design
• Six Undersea Levels filled with 3D Graphics (Open Ocean, Deep Sea Cave, Coral Reef, Arctic Sea, Underwater Volcano, Atlantis)
• 5 Different Subs to choose from
• Sub can shoot torpedos and launch a mechanical arm to pickup and drop treasures and pearls
• Sub can surface above the water or travel uder the sea
• Facebook, Twitter, Email & SMS Messaging integration for sharing
• Options Screen & Ability to Pause Game & Turn Off the Sound
• Beautifully Designed Custom User Interface
• Built-in comprehensive help system  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.38.213 (talk) 01:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any indication that this game is authorized by The Beatles or the filmmakers.  Therefore, I don't think this meets the notability requirements for adding to the article.  GoingBatty (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yellow Submarine Undersea Adventure Game for iPad  

message: On iTunes, there is a free ebook, called "The Beatles Yellow Submarine", which contains clips from the movie. Logan (talk) 08:52, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this copyright infringement, or a marketing tool used by the movie studio, or something else?  GoingBatty (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's by Subafilms Ltd., read by Dean Lennox Kelly (supposed to play John Lennon in the remake). So probably some more merchandise. More info here: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-beatles-yellow-submarine/id479687204?mt=11 Logan (talk) 23:04, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ebook remake 

message: I know this sounds like an silly question, but did George Martin play the narrator? If not, then who did?
--Evanaeus (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't know the accuracy of this, but one source lists Paul Angelis as the narratorTHX1136 (talk) 13:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The narrator 

message: The timecodes in the Musical numbers section are pretty useless, especially if they're not identified as relating to either a PAL or an NTSC telecine. See PAL speedup. --87.151.27.43 (talk) 19:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timecodes 

message: One key fact missing from the article is the original aspect ratio of the film. This has been the subject of a vitriolic argument on www.imdb.com. Could anyone out there establish the facts and record them in the article, and then indicate which (if any) of the DVD/BD releases is artistically valid? EEye (talk) 19:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the animation cells were drawn in 4:3 aka Academy format with a 1.85:1 safety area in mind, where cinema projectors were equipped with cardboard card templates (the so-called matte) to bring the film to 1.85:1 widescreen in theaters (see (open matte). Back in the days of 4:3 TV, this had the advantage that the matte could be removed for telecine, so the film could be released in 4:3 fullscreen for TV broadcasts and on home video. --93.223.194.254 (talk) 14:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Judging from both DVD releases, it seems that the film was made in the typical "British" widescreen ratio of the period, 1.66:1, I believe. In the first DVD release this was "letterboxed" to create a 4:3 image, while in the second DVD release it was side-matted ("pillarboxed") to the modern widescreen TV standard of 16:9, or 1.78:1. (In the earlier videocassette release, at least in the U.S., it was "panned and scanned" — cutting off the sides — to 4:3.) 2601:545:8201:6290:1800:CAA7:E2A6:A386 (talk) 21:00, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I can corroborate the pan & scan nature of the 87 VHS release as I own a copy of that one.THX1136 (talk) 03:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

text: The insert that came with the 99 DVD release says the following: "The Beatles' Yellow Submarine is offered the the widescreen format, enabling you to experience the picture exactly as it was originally shown in theaters. . ." In the "Mod Odyssey" featurette it shows folks working with cells that do not seem to be in a 4:3 format - they look very rectangular to me any way. I think with these two "clues" it would be reasonable to say it was originally widescreen and not the 4:3 aspect ratio.00:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aspect ratio 

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message: It surprises me that this effort by the Beatles is now so highly regarded. I was 18 at the time it was released and among my peers it was ignored and local showings seemed to pass without a ripple of interest. I don't remember anyone bothering to see it. It had been reviewed and publicised enough so that everyone would have had an idea what to expect if they would see it. The media previews available all presented it as rather fake psychedelia to us. I remember reading a newspaper article at the time acknowledging that it had not drawn the expected audiences in the UK. We certainly didn't perceive it as a hit film like "Help" or "Hard Day's Night". British animation at that time was still too slow to attract the same younger people that would have gone to see the previous films that featured the Beatles themselves rather than voicings by actors. Appreciated by diehard fans maybe but the mass hysteria by then had gone.
Jiver2 (talk) 23:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what the situation was, but the claims in the article about the reception, other than the Rotten Tomatoes score (reflecting people's ratings 40-50 years later), is completely unsourced, so I tagged the section. If sources aren't supplied soon, I'd say that, really, most of the section should go until someone can rebuild it from sources. Largoplazo (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the main reason I came here to find out more. I recently digitized "The Compleat Beatles" from my VHS copy. Narrator McDowell makes a statement that the film was not a commercial success which surprised me in a way. While "commercial success" is, perhaps, a relative term, the film seemed to be popular here in the US. In fact I felt that it had influenced some of the advertising of the day (which I know has nothing to do with it's popularity), in particular the 7-UP "Uncola" print and signage ads. Perhaps the TCB comment was referring to the UK only. When I get the chance I'll try to run down the film's box office earnings to give more insight to the question. I'll also grab the rating/ranking info for a cite.THX1136 (talk) 03:22, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

text: It could be argued that the claim of the movie being a "box office hit" is overblown. After looking at the information at The Numbers site, it shows evidence of a film that did so-so. With the exception of it's info for films based on Musical Groups (#5), the film ranks below 100 and, depending on category, below 8401 (for all time box office). Looking at receipts on a weekly basis, the film is in the red more than the green - assuming red=poor and green=good. I may remove the "hit" claim, but would like to hear from others for their take. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 00:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking at a couple of lists for top grossing box office from 1968, Yellow Submarine comes out somewhere in the 20's or lower. The movie at #1 shows a box office of $58M+ with the few lists I looked at being either Funny Girl, 2001, Oliver! or The Lion in Winter. Compared to these YS's less than $1M gross would seem to suggest that it was not quite a box office hit. Again, I welcome thoughts on this. Will probably do the edit if I don't hear from others within a week or two.THX1136 (talk) 13:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a UK success at the time? 

message: It could be noted that a few days ago, a new graphic novel adaptation by Titan Comics with artwork by Bill Morrison and offcial blessing by Apple has been released. Whereas the old 60s Gold Key comic adaptation only losely followed the film's plot and the original model sheets, the new graphic novel follows the film closely, is completely on-model, and has better art. It's available via the official Apple/TheBeatles.com online store and Amazon. --93.223.194.254 (talk) 15:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New comic 

message: There is a more significant connection to Peter Max than merely simmilar styles as mentioned in the article. Iconography from Yellow Submarine was used in advertising for the soft drink 7UP. These works were done by Peter Max.
:"Ripped off" is the term for that. Max still has no connection to the film itself. 2601:545:8201:6290:1800:CAA7:E2A6:A386 (talk) 21:19, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Max 

message: In the 1978 television film / mockumentary by Eric idle & Neil Innes, "Yellow Submarine" is parodied as "Yellow Submarine Sandwich" with an accompanying animated sequence, represented by the song "Cheese And Onions". Surely this is worthy of mention. 75.104.182.200 (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: !  GoingBatty (talk) 01:23, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referenced / Parodied in "The Rutles in All You Need is Cash". 

message: It should be mentioned that the song was only in the 1968 theatrical release of the film and the VHS editions. Ever since the 1999 version including Hey Bulldog, the sequence with the song is omitted on all releases. The song was replaced with The Beatles shaking hands with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and having a chat with them. --2003:EF:170A:9249:F103:7D8A:EB57:805C (talk) 10:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Baby, you're a rich man'' not included in new version of the film 

message: I would submit that this album, and all the tracks of the Beatles, should not be classified or labeled as "children's music". Many of the Beatles' songs are written about subjects that are inappropriate for children. The citation to the labeling of "Yellow Submarine" as a children's song goes "...film, with its innovative visual style, was clearly not just for children...". Furthermore, on the website TheBeatles.com, they write "Although intended as a nonsense song for children, "Yellow Submarine" received various social and political interpretations at the time."  I read a comment from Donovan Leitch, who was friends with the group and accompanied them to India in 1968, that the song was an the isolation the band felt.
To broadly classify all of their catalog, or any of it, as children's music is rather absurd, unbelievable, and erroneous. 68.69.80.70 (talk) 23:09, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children's music