Talk:Napalm Death

message: Napalm Death are listed on vegan bands. I am aware Barney is or has been vegan, but what about the rest of them? --Anonymous
I have infact served them food at a bar before a gig! 2 of the band are apparently vegetarian, the others are apparently not.
In interviews, Barney can be noted to be a supporter of Peta and similar projects. I believe he is vegetarian, not vegan. -- elb98rm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elb98rm (talk • contribs) 08:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veganism 

message: Do these two demoes really exist? I found them in articles on http://listen.to/napalmdeath
* Like Sheep we all have gone Astray (1983, demo)
* From Enslavement to Obliteration (1986?, demo) 
:"From Enslavement..." demo definitely exists, I'm not sure about "Like Sheep...". I've never heard about it... --Sjv27 23:03, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do these exist? 

message: Does it really go "You Suffer" at the beginning of it? All I can hear is "But why?".
:According to the lyric sheet, yes. But as far as early Napalm Death records go, the vocals don't necessarily follow the actual lyrics all that closely. - Quirk 21:07, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It goes "You-u-bwhy"
If I remember rightly, ND used what's now known as the Scum vocal style, where only one in every four syllables are actually pronounced.  I'm unsure if this is true, but it sounds plausable.
Raven_1959 12:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  You Suffer lyrics 

message: I'm going to spend a little time twiddling with this, mostly just..well, 'formalizing' some of the language and grammar. ManicParroT 22:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess this project never really got too far because the style is still very fanzine-esque. The actual content seems good so a little tightening up of the prose should go a long way. I've tagged it with  if only to remind myself to have a go when I have the time. Soo 00:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: I know this sounds rather stupid, but could somone please explain to me how ND can legally exist without any original members?
Avador 00:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not like the band incorporated back in 1982 or something. —Slicing (talk) 04:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal question

message: I added a disputed tag to the Violation of Innocence section.  Not sourced and there is no evidence this group exists.  Group is on AfD, if it is deleted, this section should be removed.--Isotope23 20:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed Tag 

message: The article has him joining in 1987 but I saw him in the lineup several times around 1984 or 1985 when Napalm Death appeared at nights he was promoting at the Hand and Heart in Coventry 195.92.168.176 00:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lee Dorrian 

message: Can somebody make a template thing at the bottom so it lists all the studio releases and other stuff without having to go to a separate page?
: copy Template:BoltThrower to Template:Napalm Death and edit it, will do. Spearhead 19:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template at the bottom 

message: Napalm Death has had a stable line up for almost their entire career now. The turbulence in the line up was only during the earliest years and with the exception of the departure of Jesse Pintado, there hasn't been a change in almost fifteen years now. I am therefore removing the "Bands with no constant members" category. Inflammator 03:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bands with no constant members 

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message: Can we have a timeline of members like in The Mars Volta? Since there have been a lot of members I thought this would be kind of cool. I already started working on it. Thoughts? = ∫tc 5th Eye 04:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Like this:
TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal format:yyyy
ImageSize = width:800 height:160
PlotArea = width:700 height:140 bottom:20 left:70
Colors =
  id:canvas value:rgb(0.97,0.97,0.97)
  id:grid1  value:rgb(0.86,0.86,0.86)
  id:grid2  value:gray(0.8)
  id:bars   value:rgb(0.96,0.96,0.6)
  id:Vocals value:rgb(0.7,0.7,1) # light blue
  id:Guitar1 value:rgb(1,0.7,0.7) # light red
  id:Guitar2 value:rgb(0.7,1,0.7) # light green
  id:Drums value:rgb(1,1,0.7) # light yellow
  id:Bass value:lightorange
BackgroundColors = canvas:canvas
Period     = from:1982.0 till:2007.0
ScaleMajor = unit:year increment:1 start:1982.0 gridcolor:grid1
bardata=
  bar:Vocals text:"Vocals"
  bar:Guitarist1 text:"Guitar"
  bar:Guitarist2 text:"Guitar"
  bar:Bass text:"Bass"
  bar:Drums text:"Drums"
plotdata=
# set defaults
  align:left anchor:from textcolor:black fontsize:8 mark:(line,white) shift:(5,-5)
  bar:Vocals color:Vocals
    from:1982 till:1987 text:"Nicholas Bullen"
    from:1987 till:1989 text:"Lee Dorrian"
    from:1989 till:1996 text:"Mark Greenway"
    from:1996 till:1997 text:"Phil Vane" shift:(5,0)
    from:1997 till:2007 text:"Mark Greenway" shift:(5,-10)
  bar:Guitarist1 color:Guitar1
    from:1982 till:1982.5 text:"Daryl Fideski" shift:(5,0)
    from:1982.5 till:1985 text:"Simon Oppenheimer" shift:(5,-10)
    from:1985 till:1987 text:"Justin Broadrick" shift:(5,3)
    from:1987 till:1987.5 text:"Frank Healy"
    from:1987.5 till:1989.5 text:"Bill Steer" shift:(5,-13)
    from:1989.5 till:2004 text:"Jesse Pintado"
  bar:Guitarist2 color:Guitar2
    from:1990 till:2007 text:"Mitch Harris"
  bar:Bass color:Bass
    from:1983 till:1985 text:"Finbar Quinn" shift:(5,0)
    from:1985 till:1986 text:"Pete Shaw" shift:(5,-10)
    from:1986 till:1987 text:"James Whitley" shift:(5,0)
    from:1987 till:2007 text:"Shane Enbury" shift:(5,-10)
  bar:Drums color:Drums
    from:1982 till:1985 text:"Miles Ratledge"
    from:1985 till:1991 text:"Mick Harris"
    from:1991 till:2007 text:"Danny Herrera"
 = ∫tc 5th Eye 04:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, i think we should have one. π₰Å₯  ĬLʡ$Φǚɭђµπt₴ŗ  ₯Å₰π 08:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, i copied and pasted onto a template. π₰Å₯  ĬLʡ$Φǚɭђµπt₴ŗ  ₯Å₰π 08:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member timeline 

message: Makes it sound like Grind is metal genre.Inhumer (talk) 07:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The second paragraph 

message: Any Wiki pros here, do you think this could pass an FA/GA nomination? Dark Executioner (talk) 18:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA/FA 

message: Do people really think examples of people wearing ND T-shirts are notable? Particularly when it's a metal band's video (there are probably dozens of these then)? Equally, is it notable to point out they are thanked in SOAD's thanks list? Again, they must be thanked on hundreds of albums. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture

message: Greetings... It is good to see one of the founding members of Napalm Death contributing to this article.
I've read in Albert Mudrian's Choosing Death that you and Justin Broadrick were fans of Noise and Industrial music (Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse) and some post-punk bands sometimes associated with these music styles (Killing Joke, The Swans). Would it be correct to say that Industrial & Noise were part of grindcore's music foundation? Because Wikipedia's grindcore article only talks about hardcore and metal subgenres that influenced it, and not about these two I've mentioned.
Musicaindustrial (talk) 22:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Nic Bullen 

message: I'd like to prevent an unecessary edit war; so I'm proposing, to all editors invested in this article, an in-depth discussion about Napalm Death's music style. Why? I currently disagree with "Genre(s)" chronology on the band's Infobox.
* "Grindcore (late 1980s)": Since Scum (1987) Napalm Death have always been grindcore. Even in their most death metal-oriented record (Harmony Corruption, 1990), ND have managed to keep their hardcore punk and industrial music traits - which are base influences of grindcore, not death metal.
* And what about this deathgrind microgenre? It is, supposedly, death metal played with a short song span. Does this merit the creation of an entirely new subgenre? Plus, it's wikipedia article cites no references and allegedly contains original research.
These are my basic complaints - I'll expand them later, because since last week I'm having a tough time at my job. Musicaindustrial (talk) 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Napalm Death's style 

message: How the bloody hell is Napalm Death Heavy Metal?
Please this is very inaccurate.
Any one who knews about Napalm Death from the begining knows they come from Crust-core punk(Crust punk from Anarcho Punk).
They state they listened to groups like Venom as youngster the same way Metallica listened to punk but that was just influence as they constantly connected themselves as having a punk origin and not metal.
They did only one album that truly metal. They even invented the term Grindcore to stop naive metal fans thinking they were death metal.
agressive fast hardcore punk came before thrash metal hence thrash coming into existance as a bridge between at the time modern heavy metal (NWOBHM) and at the time modern hardcore punk. From thrash metal came death metal. Crust punk groups like Napalm Death & Doom were singing grunts or growls and making aggressively loud music long before death metal became a recognise genre.
Please correct Napalm Death being a Heavy Metal groups as this is very much a lie. Technically they fall into punk with metal influences the same way the more technical sounding Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Nuclear Assault etc who play structured rythms and complicated leads etc as seen in Heavy Metal fall into metal with punk influence - thrash. 
During a documentary from the late 80's or early 90's title "Thrashed to Death" which was BBC production on extreme musics and featured Slayer & Napalm Death. Tom Araya in the interview commented how Reign in Blood was the ultimate metal album pushed to the bounderies of metal. So many songs in so many minutes played at such a speed with so many leads breaks etc. He himself said anything more than this would be just noise and falls into the bounderies of punk. Naplam Death during the interview commented on punk and how metal evolved thrash from influence from punk.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.213.52 (talk) 07:15, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy Metal???!! 

message: napalm death has only came out with 13 albums (Seth4000 (talk) 14:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  its 13 albums not 14 

message: How are Napalm Death metal when their roots are firmly with hardcore punk. When they first came out as Napalm Death (not even pre-Napalm Death) they featured on Hardcore Punk compilation albums alongside groups like Extreme Noise Terror, Doom, Dr & the Crippens and Intense Degree. British Radio One DJ John Peel also used to promote them under Hardcore Punk. Grindcore is not a metal genre but has it roots in punk. They are more punk than they are metal.   It should read if anything Napalm Death are an extreme Punk band with major metal influences.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.213.52 (talk) 07:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  extreme metal? 

message: "their work together will be released on Feto Records at the end of 2007." unsigned comment
This is actually a very good point. Not that I'm gonna do anything about it, mind you. --Lordnecronus (talk) 00:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fucking OLD 

message: IIRC BBC Radio 1's John Peel promoted their music a lot. Could someone add something about this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.236.155 (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peel influence 

message: The lead has the sentence "Napalm Death are a British heavy metal band", but I think that it should be renamed to an extreme metal band due to the fact that the individual genres that they are considered are all extreme metal subgenres. JJPMaster (talk) 14:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy metal vs. extreme metal 

message: From the article...
"Napalm Death's fourteenth studio album, entitled Time Waits for No Slave, ..."
"their fifteenth studio album, Utilitarian, ..."
"Napalm Death's fifteenth studio album, Apex Predator – Easy Meat, was released on 26 January 2015."
"Napalm Death entered the studio to begin recording their sixteenth studio album for an early 2018 release."
I'm not a Napalm Death expert so I'm not sure the best way to correct this, but I know enough about numbers and counting to see that something doesn't add up here. Spongue (talk) 04:17, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albums 14, 15, 16?