Talk:Evan Hunter

message: As is, this is just a list of works written and a hint of a biography.  It's a long stub, but I think it's still a stub?... Schissel : bowl listen July 7, 2005 20:30 (UTC)
:The list of works is a disaster--almost all redlinks, and the few blue ones point to the concepts of "heat" and "ice" rather than the novels... --Dvyost 8 July 2005 05:09 (UTC)
:Found an unlinked list at 87th precinct for those, but I'll leave the rest of the delinking to others, unless someone would like to spend their summer filling each of those in... =) --Dvyost 8 July 2005 05:13 (UTC)
A number of titles seem to be missing from the bibliography, especially non-series titles published under the McBain pseudonym. The Sentries (1965) and Guns (1976) immediately come to mind. The bibliography at  has more. --Clampton 12:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Was it originally published in 1955 or 1964?  You have it both ways....
--K D Faber—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.64.135.19 (talk) 11:36, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder in the Navy 

message: Only a partial list here - Buddwing was filmed for example starring James Garner.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.55.243 (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Films 

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message: Says 3, only lists Mark and ted.  I believe the third is Richard.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponchojuan (talk • contribs) 21:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Children

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support. Authors, actors, etc., are usually listed under their professional name, rather than the pseudonym, per WP:COMMONNAME. In other words, we have an article for O. Henry, not William Sydney Porter. Likewise we have an article for Lady Gaga, not for Stefani Germanotta. We do, however, have redirects from the born name to the pseudonym. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 22:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: *Oppose - I guess I'm a bit late for this, but I'm opposed to the name change.  "Evan Hunter" is the name he used in day-to-day life, and as the author of his "serious" writing.  "Ed McBain" is just a pseudonym for writing in a niche field (regardless of how popular the niche was).  While the name "Ed McBain" may be better known, it's only marginally so, and this is really only relevant if the other name is virtually unknown, which is not the case here.  The name "Evan Hunter" is firmly established as the writer of The Blackboard Jungle, and the screenplay to The Birds and others.  So to sum up, I don't see this as choosing "Lady Gaga" over "Stefani Germanotta" but as more akin to choosing "Jo Caldrone" over "Lady Gaga" JamesCurran (talk) 16:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Review 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. George Ho (talk) 23:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Ed McBain →  – Both his pseudonymous names (Ed McBain and Evan Hunter) are too well-known to debate which to choose. If Wikipedia chooses Sean Combs instead of either "P. Diddy" or "Puff Daddy", why not the same for this man who write many crime mysteries? Besides, both his pseudonymous surnames were fully pure 100%-Caucasian, while his actual surname (Lombino) is Italian. George Ho (talk) 07:34, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
=== Pen name? ===
Since "Evan Hunter" became his legal name in May 1952, I don't think it should be referred to as a pen name.
ChrisWinter (talk) 18:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2014 

message: Since "Evan Hunter" became his legal name in May 1952, I don't think it should be referred to as a pen name.
ChrisWinter (talk) 18:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pen name? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to Evan Hunter. While there is a well-argued dissent from Randy Kryn, there is a consensus that the subject was well-known and wrote "serious" works under his legal name as well, and is a more appropriate title than the pen name. Similar arguments have been brought forward from both sides on the talk page above. I will move the  along.  No such user (talk) 08:45, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Ed McBain →  – Article title should be Evan Hunter, the writer's real name, under which he wrote several noteworthy books, including "Last Summer" and "The Blackboard Jungle." Ed McBain is a "pen name." Just because the name Ed McBain is, perhaps, more known than that of Evan Hunter, is weak reasoning to make it the article title. Hunter himself would probably be displeased to see his Wikipedia entry placed under a pseudonym he devised up, and just one among many. Why? Because he went through life by his legal, real name, Evan Hunter, not the pseudonym Ed McBain. If he had used the name Ed McBain in real life, the title should then be Ed McBain. But Hunter didn't do that.
Evan Hunter is listed as Evan Hunter in the following:
* Paperback Confidential: Crime Writers of the Paperback Era by Brian Ritt (Eureka, CA: Starke House Press, 2013)
* Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of Literature (index says McBain, Ed see Evan Hunter)
* A Checklist of Evan Hunter by Christopher P. Stephens (Ultramarine, 1992)
* Let's Talk: A Story of Cancer and Love by Evan Hunter a.k.a. Ed McBain (Orion Publishing Co., 2005)
* Ed McBain/Evan Hunter: A Literary Companion by Erin E. MacDonald (Jefferson, NC: McFarland & Company, Inc., Publishers, 2012)
* Encyclopedia.com 
* SFE: The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction
* "Evan Hunter, Writer Who Created Police Procedural, Dies at 78" NYT Obit, July 7, 2005
Of importance is the last in the list above — the New York Times obituary, virtually an official record. The obit was for Evan Hunter, not Ed McBain, the pen name. TheGrayLion (talk) 06:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

text: *Text of WP:NICKNAME: "The name used most often to refer to a person in reliable sources is generally the one that should be used as the article title, even if it is not the person's 'real' name...", which would cover this title. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

text: *Hello . Have you checked them? I looked at Encyclopedia.com and, while fighting through incoming ads (goddess bless our no-ads policy), see that their listing is under 'Ed McBain'. One more, the science fiction ency. states "who ultimately became better known as Ed McBain", which is our title criteria. Randy Kryn (talk) 19:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Hello . I did glance and Encyclopedia.com has both — a separate entry for Evan Hunter and for Ed McBain. Tellingly, it even has a redirect — "Ed McBain: see Hunter, Evan." As for The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, it also has, as the main title header of its entry — Evan Hunter, with Ed McBain as a redirect to Evan Hunter. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 10 May 2021