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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Encyclopaedia Britannica/Archive 1

message: As we say on the subject page here, no one should use EB1911 as is.  They may have made changes in the scanned material.  They'd have to just to put it on the web, but I don't think they've done any concerted editing at all.  For instance, they lost the entire entry on Plato.Ortolan88
:They've also run together "Telepathy" and "Telephone":
:The experimental evidence for telepathy is made up partly ... of successes in hypnotization at a distance; ... and in a small but important class of cases, [tr]ansmitted for business purposes over a distance of 1542.3 m., viz., over the lines of the American Telegraph and Telephone Company from Omaha to Boston. 
:Andy G 19:24, 17 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous conversation 2

message: A while back there was some discussion that we should not put the name "Encyclopaedia Britannica" in such a note on articles as the name is still a copyrighted trademark. Has it been decided that we can use that name? Wondering simply, `` Infrogmation 16:22 May 11, 2003 (UTC)
: I've seen this principle taken much too far; check out the notice at the bottom of Anaximander.  I think that placing the appropriate symbol (©, ®, or whatever it may be) after the word Britannica should suffice. -Smack 22:19, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: The text is not copyrighted!!! It is in the public domain (placing the © after the word "Britannica" means that it is copyrighted by Britannica!). Trademarks are not copyrighted, they are protected by trademark law. It is furthermore not necessary to even have the ® symbol - all it is, is a notice by the trademark owner that they have registered their trademark and intend to protect its use. Our use, however, does not infringe on their trademark; we are simply stating the source of the public domain text. --mav 22:31, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous conversation 7

message: I visited Samothrace and was surprised to discover that it is still a province of the Ottoman Empire. If you lift articles from the 1911 EB, so are supposed to check that the material is still correct. Adam 01:52, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There are tons of articles like that...mostly the populations still reflect 1911 numbers, or they don't reflect that something has radically changed because of World War I. Sometimes there are even articles about people who were still alive in 1911. There used to be a Georges Clemenceau article that had minutiae about his political life in the 1890s or whatever, but of course nothing about World War I. I also notice that there are many articles about Greek topics that originally had Greek text in them, which has become unintelligible through scanning. Unfortunately I don't think you can get people to stop copying text from there, since it's such an easy/lazy way out :) Adam Bishop 02:00, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous conversation 8
Talk:Citation signal

message: Do we really need so many examples for each? I'm tempted to strip each section down to two. — Hex (❝?!❞) 19:52, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''exempli gratia ad nauseam'' 

message: These two concepts are so similar that they could easily be covered by one article. Andrew327 20:40, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Merged. —Ost (talk) 17:47, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Legal citation signals]]
Talk:Hungary

message: Novàk Katalin resigned she is not president. 2A00:1110:231:8E13:118D:E085:1AA3:9876 (talk) 14:00, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: While she has resigned, the citations on her page indicate she remains president until parliament accepts the resignation. Please provide a reliable source when this happens and reopen your request. Jamedeus (talk) 23:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2024 

message: After line "In 1989, concurrently with the Revolutions of 1989, Hungary peacefully transitioned into a democratic parliamentary republic,[20] joining the European Union in 2004 and being part of the Schengen Area since 2007.",
at least a sentence should be added, such as "As of 2023, there have been concerns about democratic backsliding in Hungary under the goverment of Prime Minister Viktor Orban, with organizations such as Freedom HouseGehrke, Laurenz. "Hungary no longer a democracy, Freedom House says". POLITICO. Retrieved 2023-05-02. and the European Parliment"MEPs: Hungary can no longer be considered a full democracy | News | European Parliament". www.europarl.europa.eu. 2022-09-15. Retrieved 2023-05-02. going so far as to declare Hungary a  hybrid regime. 172.101.133.244 (talk) 03:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: ABG  (Talk/Report any mistakes here)  10:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2024 

message: Add under an Authoritarian regime in the electoral type, a large amount of sources consider Orban authoritarian 120.21.121.32 (talk) 12:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shadow311 (talk) 15:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2024 (2) 

message: 'and tuition-free secondary education.' This is poorly worded/ambiguous since it might suggest that secondary education is free of tuition. I suspect it should have said tuition-fee-free but that is also clumsy. I suggest it should just say '...and free secondary education' 89.135.145.116 (talk) 07:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuition-free education
Talk:Metric

message: This page desperately needs to become a disambiguation page.  These pages that treat multiple nearly unrelated topics on one page just because they bear the same name look really stupid.  I've just taken care of another of these; maybe if no one beats me to it I'll do this one too. Michael Hardy 17:08, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Good edit, but you didn't move the information about musical meter to metre (music). Thanks. Hyacinth 20:27, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convert to disambiguation page
Talk:1 kilometre

message: * 1,609.344 m — One mile
* 1,852 m — One nautical mile
**Conversions should be done the other way; it would be nice if someone figured out nautical mile and re-added it.
* 3,410 m — Height of Piz Linard, highest peak in the Vorarlberg 
* 1,300 m — Height of Haltitunturi, highest point in Finland
* 1,344 m — Height of Ben Nevis, highest point in the United Kingdom
* 2,038 m — Height of Mount Mitchell, highest point in eastern North America
* 2,100 m — Height of Kebnekaise, highest point in Sweden
* 2,499 m — Height of Rysy, highest point in Poland
* 3,717 m — Height of Teide, highest point in Spain
* 3,754 m — Height of Aoraki/Mount Cook, highest peak in New Zealand
* 3,776 m — Height of Mount Fuji, highest peak in Japan
* 4,808 m — Height of Mont Blanc, highest peak in Western Europe
* 5,959 m — Height of Mount Logan, highest peak in Canada
* 2,469 m — Height of Galdhøpiggen, highest point in Norway
**Only one highest peak per continent please, but, thanks anyway.
As you may have guessed if you've seen any of the other pages where I've done this organizing, if you really care, feel free to re-add any of these. JesseW 23:15, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some IMO redundant ones 

message: It would seem as if all the information on this home page is from the same web page: http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/1-E3-m. I'm not sure what that has to say about credibility, but I guess it's worth thinking about Erufailon42 (talk) 13:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  All data from same site 

message: Looks like this article has enough citations, so why keep the old template?Astatine211Talk 18:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations template removal
Talk:List of science fiction short stories

message: This would be greatly improved by a link to a forum that routinely IDs classic stories. I know such pages have problems with short life, reliability, but how else does an aging brain track down a seminal or unique story that belongs here when it cannot remember either the author or the exact title? D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 05:32, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  See Also
Talk:Pubic louse

message: "(removed pro-evolution rhetoric)".
Is such creationist censorship acceptable?
And what is the creationist view on the origins of pubic lice? Would they maintain that Adam and Eve (and members of Noah's family) had pubic lice?
S.
:Furthermore, the change doesn't seem to make sense in the terms stated. Ed changed "As the name implies, pubic lice are specialized to live in the human pubic hair" to "As the name implies, pubic lice most commonly live in the human pubic hair". I would expect creationists to be enthused about the idea of specialization as implying purposed creation, so it hardly sounds "pro-evolution". The only real issue here, though, is whether the lice are in fact specialized (which is to say, have features which are particularly amenable to) living out their lives in pubic hair as opposed to other hairy portions of the human (or other species') anatomy. --Brion
I don't see anything particularly evolutionistic about "specialized". It sounds more creationistic to me. As to what pubic lice were doing before the Fall, I haven't a clue. -phma
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Yes, the change is nonsense.  "...are specialized to..." is a simple observable fact of nature.  If Ed wants to argue about how they got that way, he's free to, but changing facts is not acceptable.  --LDC
:Perhaps I misunderstood what "are specialized" means. I'm happy to have my edit reverted. --Ed Poor
:Pubic lice can live in other hairy areas of humans' bodies; for instance they are sometimes found in the eyebrows of pre-pubescent children (often, but not always, a sign of sexual abuse).  --KQ
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What does "about this size" refer to? -phma
:that's a colloquialism for "approximately the size of."  --KQ
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Should we mention classic public toilet graffiti on pubic lice? Eg: "please don't throw toothpicks in the toilet. The crabs can pole-vault", etc.
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There are several conflicting Wikipedia statements about the length of time pubic lice live:
:from this article: "If the louse falls off a person, it dies within 1-2 days."
:from Crab louse: "The individual louse can survive up to a week apart from its necessary human host..."
:from this article: "A common misbelief is that infestation can be spread by sitting on a toilet seat. This isn't likely, since lice cannot live long away from a warm human body.  Also, lice do not have feet designed to walk or hold onto smooth surfaces such as toilet seats."
:[Life span away from their host can't be the main prevention of contagion here:  surely 1-2 days (not to mention a week) is plenty long enough to move from one person to another on many toilet seats.]
--ErikStewart 12:41, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Capsicum

message: Assuming capiscums are native to Americas, and Americas being 'discovered' by European colonists, wouldn't there be enough genetic data and written records to reconstruct the family tree since then? How long did it take Europeans to 'discover' they were more than an ornamental plants (e.g. it took almost to late 18th century, if not early 19th in case of tomatoes)? What were the ways in spreading it to the far east? Given the modern reevaluation of, at the time presumably crucial, European influence of the rise of nightshade family (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes) — from sustenance to the ornamental plants to the staple of almost every cuisine in the world — I think there is a great story to be dicovered and told here. TPetricevic (talk) 13:28, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History question 

message: Hi, I'm trying to figure out the categorical relationship of :commons:category:ristras and :commons:category:strings of capsicum; ristra has a southwestern United States focus but otherwise seems to be a generic name (and   on talk:ristra agrees). Is this so? Arlo James Barnes 22:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  storage in braids 

message: Capsicum species are 2n=2x=24 and 2n=2x=26 (2n = 24 and 2n = 26). There must be a mistake in the source you quote, because there is no capsicum species that are 2n=2x=32. — unsigned comment added by 67.68.242.119 at 14:58, 12 May 2024‎.
: Fixed, many thanks for pointing this out. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genetics
Talk:Voltaire

message: This event is generally cited as one of the primary motivation for one of Voltaire's most famous works Candide, I think it would be helpful to readers to understand the effect that earthquake had on him as a person.  The Slicer Of Bread (talk) 18:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but in order to add that you would need reliable secondary sources that make that argument and explain it. With such sources, anything can be added. Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 18:53, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effect of the Lisbon Earthquake on Voltaire 

message: The phrasing of the beginning of the last paragraph of the “Views on race and slavery” section, which states “Zeev Sternhell argues that despite his shortcomings,” seems to violate neutral point of view (NPOV). 142.169.80.44 (talk) 17:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issue in “Views on race and slavery” 

message: The section "Great Britain" could be broken up at the point where he returns to France. Seregesis (talk) 09:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add "Return to France" subheading
Talk:Adjective phrase

message: This entry will be edited for style and content as part of a linguistics class project at UBC (Ling300, 2017wT1).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RM Dechaine (talk • contribs) 19:26, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Rosemary. I now note the following: University of British Columbia, Rosemary Dechaine, class on linguistics with undergraduates, mainly juniors. I suggest adding a few informative sentences to your user page providing this information. You could provide a list of the pages being edited by your students and links to those pages. My concern with this sort of project is the same as it was last time, a couple of years ago. Because they are beginning linguists, they simply parrot information that they find or are given. Thus if, for instance, they are given or pointed to information about a specific framework, they fill up Wikipedia with information about that one specific framework. That is what I experienced last time your students participated in this sort of project. They lack an overview of the field that is necessary to write balanced Wikipedia articles.--Tjo3ya (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Planned changes for entry as part of class project

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
"Adjective phrase" is more common on Google Web Search, Google Book Search, and Google Scholar, and nearly always has the same sense; "adjectival phrase" is less common, and often refers to any phrase that modifies a noun (including a noun-modifying prepositional phrase). —RuakhTALK 02:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe this is a British/American language issue? I'm from the UK, and have only ever heard "adjectival phrase," not "adjective phrase." Mtford 14:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: "Adjective phrase" does appear to be more widely used, but not by that much, so I weak support it. Other articles with the word adjectival: List of adjectival forms of place names and Predicative (adjectival or nominal), though I don't think these need renaming as they sound better (not a good reason, but I think either works). –Pomte 07:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. Not only is there only weak support, but if this is a British-American difference, then it should not be changed. --Stemonitis 07:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move 2007

message: For me this article was very confusing and I could not even pay attention while reading the first sentence. Could someone please simplify this? I woul appreciate it. Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pat8707 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  wtf
Talk:Exponent (linguistics)

message: (copied from Everything2 and posted here by the original author, Ryan Gabbard (elwethingol of Everything2)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mav (talk • contribs) 15:01, 21 August 2002 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do. We're all a little jittery about copyrights here, and making the provenence (and legality) of source material clear keeps us in the clear. If you were copying someone elses articles from Everything2 without permission, we couldn't keep them. As long as we know you're copying your own material, which you own the copyright to and thus can implicitly license it for Wikipedia, no one's going to freak and remove it on reflex. (Of course, we could always contact you and find out that the usage is clear... so long as you're still around. People do lose e-mail addresses, drop off the net entirely, or even die without warning, so there's no guarantee that the legality of these imports could be established later.) --Brion — Preceding undated comment added 14:23, 21 August 2002 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]
Talk:Effigy Mounds National Monument

message: I removed from the article claim "As a historic unit under the National Park Service, the National Monument was administratively listed on the National Register of Historic Places on October 15, 1966."  I believe that is incorrect, that this is not NRHP-listed.  Perhaps there is one or more NRHP-listed site within the National Monument, but that would be different. doncram (talk) 19:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NRHP-listed or not?

message: The following coordinate fixes are needed for
—193.34.237.203 (talk) 05:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article. The monument is fairly large, and the coordinates of the visitors' center seem acceptable and fairly central. If you think that there is some other error in the coordinates, you'll need to provide a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 16:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates
Talk:William Shunn

message: There are several controversial, POV statements in the article, such as "devout", "arrested", "false", "his mission", "often", and "private".  There is no way of checking the veracity of these statements from public sources.  The word "first", used twice, must be verified from a NPOV source.  "Work often draws on" needs a neutral review.  I am inserting cites needed.  Bearian 17:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see improvements.  Thank you for taking the criticism well.  Bearian 19:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In case anyone finds this notable, I thought I'd point out that my memoir The Accidental Terrorist: Confessions of a Reluctant Missionary has been published this month by Sinister Regard in New York City. It recounts my adventures as a Mormon missionary in 1986 and 1987, culminating with my arrest, conviction, and expulsion from Canada.
An audio interview about the book can be found at:
http://www.wired.com/2015/11/geeks-guide-william-shunn/
Shunn (talk) 22:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memoir published
Talk:Mathematical optimization

message: User:BumbleMath wrote: Why is there no ToC in this article? It should be generated automatically due to its length according to Wikipedia documentation.  — Preceding undated comment added 18:54, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi  If you are using Wikipedia at the Desktop, the TOC has moved to the upper left corner (three bars) and can be extended. At Special:GlobalPreferences you can switch to another skin. Greetings Bigbossfarin (talk) 02:16, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Hi @Bigbossfarin, oh, thanks. I have to admit it is there (but very hidden though). Thanks for your reply. BumbleMath (talk) 06:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Table of Contents missing

message: User:Artur adib wrote: 
:In  mathematics, the term optimization typically refers to the study of ...
I would say not typically, but all the time. So the word typically is reduntant.
: (When the set A contains a finite number of elements, the problem falls in the domain of combinatorial optimization.)
OK, you do have a point. But you see, to include all the special cases would make the definition way too long. For example, I specialize in infinite dimensional optimization, when the domain of the objective function is a space of functions, or a space of shapes. But you see, if we add your special case, and my special case, what becomes is a mess. So, for the sake of clarity, and at the expence of being the most general, I deleted your sentence. There is still that link at the bottom about combinatorial optimization you put. You can also add it in the
Major subfields section, several paragraphs below the definition of optimization. But I would suggest that we keep the definition of optimization simple. I would be very interested in hearing what you think about this. Thanks! --Oleg Alexandrov 23:01, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Combinatorial optimization

message: 36=21 102.212.128.37 (talk) 14:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grade 7 math
Talk:Sampling

message: I'm starting to think that content on the sampling of material for analysis is a bit too much for a dab page. Furthermore, there are far more many types of samples not included here, such as blood, urine, air, vapour, soil, tissue, wood, etc. Should a new article be created to hold this content? A link to this page could also be made at sample. For a name, I could suggest Sampling (analysis), but please don't be shy to comment/suggest. +mt 16:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "analysis" is too broad a qualifier. Sampling (diagnostic analysis) might work, although it's a bit wordy, and might be too specific. How about simply Test sample? -- Avenue (talk) 09:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Acceptance sampling might cover off the quality control side of it, too. -- Avenue (talk) 12:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sample collection 

message: If I understand the guidelines right (in particular Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Partial title matches), then the entries in the "Specific types of sampling" section don't belong here. Any objections to their removal? -- Avenue (talk) 12:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Specific types of sampling

message: new section 223.224.6.86 (talk) 01:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: /* D */ new section 223.224.6.86 (talk) 01:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/223.224.6.86 223.224.6.86 (talk) 01:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  D
Talk:ACN

message: "Ante Christi Natus" looks strange to me (a non-Latinist!). Should it not rather be "Natum" or "Nativitatem"?
S.
ACN is a protocol in development for moving lights that require a lot of data for control (e.g. projectors on moving head, LED walls, etc). If an article is written about ACN, I suggest this page hold it and have a link to a disambiguation page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisGualtieri (talk • contribs) 16:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Not to be confused with A Comfy Network.  Benjamin (talk) 07:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Comfy Network