Talk:Skateboard

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Skateboards Nignaco (talk) 08:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Please help edit

message: While "typically made of wood" might have been true of skateboards at some point, I don't think it's been true since the 1980s.  Almost all the ones I see are composites.  --Lee Daniel Crocker  
Virtually every modern skateboard deck manufactured today is 7 plies of Canadian Hard Rock Maple.  the only "major" (which is a bit of a stretch) company to use composites is the snowboard manufacturer Lib Technologies.  They manufacture fiberglass-enhanced skate decks.  Other companies have experimented with composite technologies, but none have proven viable.
:I think Lee Daniel Crocker is referring to plywood, which is a composite of wood ply and epoxy glue (although a very common one). Tp 05:30, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: seriously... this article needs  or something...  --Smooth Henry 03:59, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
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The extrenal links were worthless. Tp 06:39, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Deck materials

message: I've cleaned this page up a little and made it easier to understand. The two most significant changes are:
"The wheels, usually made of polyurethane, come in nine different sizes" to "The wheels, usually made of polyurethane, come in many different sizes to suit different types of skating"
And
"Inside each wheel are eight(2 for each wheel) precision ball bearings" to "Inside each wheel are two precision ball bearings of the type '608' (8mm internal bore)". Steve-g 16:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some edits 

message: Some history of the skateboard should be included here, especially the late-1970s skateboarding fad, and the association with skate punks in the 1980s. As I've never been on a skateboard without immediately falling on my behind, I leave it to someone else to write this...  ProhibitOnions  (T) 19:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural impact

message: I think they need to be added in. EG ramp, street, long, slide, pool... Any comments? 782 Naumova 22:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Board types

message: I don't think "Obsolete" is the correct header for that section. Any ideas on how it should be renamed? Dubkiller 06:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How about 'optional components'? Steve-g 11:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds good, I'll change it. --Dubkiller 07:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Obsolete" Parts

message: How come there is no section for the trucks? I was looking for the threading specs and when i found them (Hex Die 5/16-24 for the axle) I thought I should put it here but there is no trucks-section and I wanted to check if this was a consious decision since it's such an obvious part? Am I missing something. And please confirm that the threading is right and I would appreciate if someone knew if this varies between trucks. Also the kingpin threading might be useful to know. Reference for the threading (http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/archive/index.php/t-4369.html) --Mnsc 12:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Trucks section is back. Thanks for spotting that. I think it got deleted when some vandalism was reverted. As for threads, 5/15x24tpi is correct for most. I'm not sure about some high-end slalom trucks that have 8mm axles and I'm sure some '70s trucks had different threads as things weren't standardised then.  Steve-g 14:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is 5/15x24 a typo from your side? Do you know what threading the kingpin have? I would like to see the wikipedia entry to have some of this more technical information since it isn't all that interesting to the common skateboarder and hence never included in glossaries on skateboarding pages. --Mnsc 18:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oops, my typo, sorry. That should be 5/16 of course! The kingpin is 3/8 x 24tpi. I can't remember about mounting hardware. Yes, we could have some technical info here, including the above stuff and maybe a little on sizes of bearings, axle diameters, etc. If you want, we could collect all the info here and then edit it in once we're sure it's all correct. Steve-g 11:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Tried to put together a small table of my current understanding. I'm learning things as I go (eg. difference between unc/unf) and of course there seem to be many exceptions to any rule there is. Longboarding seems to be the techgeeky division of skateboarding (I've only had a longboard since last year) with massive tweaking of trucks and hardware. For street skateboards, the only thing I see varies is the kingpin head which can be many kinds of strange proprietary designs. Feel free to edit table below. Sources listed beneath the table is just the sites i Googled this past half hour.--Mnsc 17:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trucks

message: Seems to me an article as short as Banana board might be better suited to be a part of the Skateboard article, perhaps under some kind of general history section? --Lijnema 15:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Banana board might go well in the 1970s section in the skateboarding page. Steve-g 16:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It'd be great if someone could move the banana board info into either Skateboard or Skateboarding (or both). I don't know which would be better, and I'm sure someone who perhaps actually knows things about skateboards would be better suited than myself to make the decision. --Lijnema 00:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If it was up to me, I'd put a line in the history part of skateboarding. But I'm not sure of the policy for merging articles, so it'll have to be someone else who does it. Steve-g 09:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Banana board

message: The wheels section is mostly made up of generalisations and biased info ("Modern street skaters prefer", "ollies easier"). I will keep my rework here so that others might add, protest and comment. My plan is to merge the four last sections in the first three and make them paragraphs, not a list. Something along the lines of: "the hardness of the wheels affects the riding behavior, top speed, grip yadayada...", "Larger wheels = slower rotation which allows for higher top speeds etc.", "Choice of wheels depends on something..." --Mnsc 19:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheels rework in progress

message: I guess this is som old school "extras" and to me it seem to be the same thing? Anyone got pictures? A story? Regional names? Google gave nothing.  --Mnsc 19:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Copers fit over your trucks and allow for easier grinds. A lapper is a device that fits in front of your back truck and covers the kingpin, it helps to re-enter pools/ramps as the kingpin doesn't hang up. Both were invented by Tracker Trucks around 1978. Steve-g 07:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, a picture says more... and some further investigation gave some image results.  Lappers and Copers. And now I see that they are not the same thing. =) --Mnsc 08:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lappers vs. Copers? 

message: I think it's important to tell that the optional components are pretty much useless. Not that Nose guards and Rail Guards help but honestly skaters really don't need them. First of, lappers do help with smooth tranistion but they still can get hang ups and besides ollies today are important to get up obstacles so lappers are not needed. Nose, rail and tail guards are not needed either. Let the board breathe. I mean if a board gets scratched, a board gets scratched, thats the way of skateboards. Trust mre if you show up with a trashed up board, that shows how hard you skate. But this is one component that I think is still cool. Riser pads also are not needed. They do prevent wheelbite (when the board jams into the wheel, stopping it) but you can get higher and/or tighter trucks and plus we have smaller wheels now so riser pads, good-bye. As for copers well the grind is for the grinding sound so the trucks need to scuff. 72.130.138.131 02:19, July 17, 2007 (UTC)
:Useless to you, they were useful to someone at some point, perhaps even today. Sounds like you are trying to inject your own preferences instead of allowing for the fact that skateboards do have optional components, hence the word "optional", which is pretty self explanatory. Dubkiller 09:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that 'optional' is best. I use small risers on my board and most slalom skaters use angled risers to change the steer on their trucks. I also know guys who insist on skaters using copers if they want to skate in their private pools to protect the coping. Steve-g 08:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Optional Components

message: I've been thinking about this page lately, and it's a tough one to tackle. Most of the descriptions of a skateboard and its parts in the article are pretty much for one style of skateboard, but the actual fact is that there are so many different kinds that are just as legitimate, even though they might not be as popular. I don't think I'm up to the task of cataloging everything that can be considered a skateboard or skateboard part, but I have expanded the article to make a note that there is no definitive or "regulation" skateboard. Dubkiller 11:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just put a note saying the article deals with the most common type of board. Skateboarding Angel (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Difficult to define skateboard

message: I suggest this page be afforded some degree of protection (edit locking), as it has recently been used as a slate for petty arguments by anonymous ISP-only editors.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnarchMonarch (talk • contribs) 02:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any vandalism gets reverted pretty quick. No need for protection yet. Skateboarding Angel (talk) 12:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Needs Protection?

message: I just reverted this page from BLANK. Think about requesting temp semi-protection Matthew Glennon (talk) 21:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: So, what changed? What is the difference between the modern skateboard and the skateboard of the mid-70's? Did the skateboard craze of the 70's use the old skateboard or the new skateboard?  My guess would be that you are talking about the change in deck design from a soft deck (mid 70's) back to a hard deck (60's and 80's), but I wasn't in California at the time, so maybe you are talking about truck design or wheel material?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.18.240 (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The modern skateboard originated in California in the late 1970s" 

message: Nothing in here about steerable wheels. On a skateboard, when you lean, the wheels change direction. It's a defining feature of a skateboard. I'd be interested in the history of that. I've seen a suggestion that dance skates had this feature, so maybe that's where it came from? 
In the mid-late 70's good skateboarders used very soft, flexible decks, made of fiberglass, that would flex perhaps 1/2 inch or a centimetre when you stood on them. (More if you were too heavy for the board). This would have had two effects: (1) you could get some bounce off the deck. I don't remember it being used for that, but there wasn't the big layer of sponge between the deck and the truck now used to get bounce. (2) You could steer the board by bending it. I you leant into the side-centre, the trucks would track in a curve. 
I can't remember for sure what kinds of trucks where used with those soft boards. Was the board-bend-steering used because steerable trucks were not used? I think that I remember from the look that they were also using steerable trucks, but probably not as soft or as wide.
Those soft-deck boards were too soft and not tough enough to do modern tricks: they would have dragged and would have broken up quickly on big drops.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.18.240 (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See the section on "trucks".  That describes what you are calling "steerable wheels" and explains how they work.  The plastic (and fiberglass) decks that you are referring to are likely the racing decks.  Before the plethora of street tricks, many people raced skateboards similar to ski races with pylons that you had to slalom through. -- kainaw™ 04:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steerable wheels, Soft decks 

message: Moved from top of page -- kainaw™ 15:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no information on the origin of skateboards because the origin is unknown. There are dozens of people who have claimed to have made the very first skateboard. All of those claims fail to produce reliable evidence. It is just hearsay. There is no reason to assume that nobody in history every stepped on a board with wheels on it before the 1900's. Some Chinese kid in the year 130 could have been goofing around at his fathers shop and decided to push himself around on a board with wheels that was intended for moving heavy buckets of fish back and forth. Do we claim he invented the skateboard? -- kainaw™ 13:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect Information

message: Recently in Sydney there was a radio competition hosted by Merrick, Dools & Ricki-Lee that encouraged people to add false information to this article regarding the person who invented the skateboard. The claim was made by some bloke who happened to improvise his own skate board back in 1959 using wheels from roller skates and an old bit of timber. Although this might be true he is not the actual person who invented the skateboard and the information should be construed as misinformation and reverted. ***Adam*** 22:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no information on the origin of skateboards because the origin is unknown. There are dozens of people who have claimed to have made the very first skateboard. All of those claims fail to produce reliable evidence. It is just hearsay. There is no reason to assume that nobody in history every stepped on a board with wheels on it before the 1900's. Some Chinese kid in the year 130 could have been goofing around at his fathers shop and decided to push himself around on a board with wheels that was intended for moving heavy buckets of fish back and forth. Do we claim he invented the skateboard? -- kainaw™ 13:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: misinformation

message: You can also propel the board by what we used to call boogieing or tapping (I haven't been on a skateboard since 1978): pivoting on the rear wheels and tapping the front on the pavement at an acute angle alternating left and right, twisting your torso to throw your weight to push outward on each side, thus propelling you forward.  In effect you're alternately positioning the board like a left and then right inline skate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.42.208.174 (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: We always called this "click clacking" back in the early 70's - taken from the sound made when propelling a board this way.THX1136 (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other techniques for propulsion 

message: This page should cite the documentary Magic Rolling Board. 143.232.210.38 (talk) 16:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference/citation 

message: These aren't mentioned. The brake is often just a pad of rubber at the back of the board; also seen are pedals pressing directly on the axle using a brake pad and some even use special systems. See http://wackyboards.blogspot.be/search/label/%7Dbrakes
109.133.98.70 (talk) 15:04, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: brakes

message: Not sure if the editors here would find this useful - just uploaded this PD photo depicting the application of grip tape. Kelly hi! 14:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo of grip tape 

message: For starters, when and from where did it appear?  I came to this page to find out what the origins of the skateboard are, and as of this moment there seems to be zilch.  WTF??Adrigon (talk) 02:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Adrigon! This article is about the skateboard - the object itself and its physical features and variations. There's much more historical material in the article about the activity - skateboarding. That article was actually recently expanded and improved with a lot more historical material. Hope that is of assistance. Cheers, Stalwart111 03:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Huge glaring omission:  No history section

message: There is some information here that makes the assumption the reader already knows something about this subject. As an encyclopedic article it should not do so. Sample from the second paragraph in the "Deck" section: "One of the first deck companies was called "Drapped" taken from Jonny's second name." The casual reader is not going to know who "Jonny" is nor what his second name is that "Drapped" is derived from. I would encourage any of the previous editors to make an effort to improve this aspect of the article. It's good, but it can be better. Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 15:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assumptions 

message: Please add details to the deck section, about common and alternative deck materials -- plywood? plastic? fiberglass? other?-96.233.20.34 (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deck materials 

message: The Wheels section talks about "width", but then says that "Smaller width sizes like 48–54 mm keep the board closer to the ground". In order to move the board closer to the ground, you would use smaller diameter wheels, not smaller width wheels. All the uses of "width" should be corrected as "diameter" if that's what is being discussed.
--Meve Stills (talk) 16:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheels section is confusing 

message: Watching Hollywood Knights, supposedly taking place in 1965, and saw a skateboard?  When was the skateboard invented and when did it become popular?  I may have missed 1965, but I never saw one at any time close to that.Longinus876 (talk) 23:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invented/became popular when? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There is an inconsistency between this article and the Longboard article about whether a longboard is a type of skateboard or a separate class of sports equipment that is similar to, but distinct from, a skateboard. The Longboard article takes the latter view.
I'd side with the former but I'd be generally in favour of deferring to the authority of the main article on the subject, if that seems like a reasonable claim, in the interest of keeping it consistent. mmj (talk) 10:42, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longboard as type of skateboard vs "similar to" a skateboard 

message: I recently saw a documentary (in the German TV "N24") about specific people in the year 1943 in Germany, in which kids (3 to 10 years old) as well as a grown up man (one after the other) used a board on 4 rollers. This board was rather rectangular (not with rounded ends), but had the proportions very similar to today's short skateboards. These folks were sitting on this "skateboard" and they were rolling down another board: a sloping board of about two to three meters long. At the bottom were additional boards lined up on the lawn, because this was on a private garden lawn.
The original documentary about the Goebbels's family life (Magda Goebbels, wife of Josef Goebbels, the Nazi) was filmed by a professional German filmcrew with professional film cameras (in black&white) on the premises of the Goebbels in Berlin, Germany, in 1943 for the German "Wochenschau" (short films which were shown in cinemas before the main film). A scene about 30 seconds long shows this "skate"board.
Some of this original film was shown in the recent documentary
*entiteled: "Magda Goebbels - Fanatisch bis in den Tod" (fanatic til death)
*(c) Cie des Phares & Balises 2017
*International Sales: CPB International
*Im Auftrag von (by order of): N24 [a German television Company].
I have a digital record, but I don't know how I could make this scene into a clip. Problem: It is recorded in a TV from Sony, and Sony records in an encoded format. I can only play this record in exactly this TV-set.
But even if I could take some images, e.g. via screenshots with a camera, there would probably be the problem of the copyright.
It could very well be that US officers who, in 1945, came on to the premises of the Goebbels, in Berlin and other officers who sighted the original film or the "Wochenschau" films came across this board and brought the idea, or maybe even the original board, to America.
It could as well be that the standing use of a skateboard was invented in the US, but I hope you don't mind too much that this documentary would ruin the idea that the skateboard in itself was invented in the 1950s in the US, especially with this nazi-connotation. So sorry friends.
Steue (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first skateboard already in Germany in 1943? 

message: I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:CS, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, WP:BLP, WP:NOR, et al. [ This diff] shows where it was in the article. Nightscream (talk) 18:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited material in need of citations

message: I linked the words polyurethane, skateparks, and long boards on the skateboard wikipage to other wikipages. I also linked the skateboard wikipage on other wikipages such as Freestyle skateboarding and Street skateboarding. Caseymen (talk) 09:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking articles