Talk:2008 Australian Open

message: In the text under the heading Day 6, there are expressions such as made light work of and truly herculean, and in particular a match that will surely provoke discussion about the validity of night matches.
These are all statements of opinion and not encyclopedic fact.  The possibility of discussion over the late finish of Lleyton Hewitt's match is not something to be mentioned in an encyclopedia, however when such discussion does emerge in the media and other primary sources it will then be valid to report it here with citation(s). Darcyj (talk) 21:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely there has to some lee-way for style within these summaries, to make them more melliflous. I've added a citation for the point of discussion, but in retrospect...I know it was a mistake to add it in at that time. I've found three sources stating that Williams was tested by Mirza (in no ambiguous terms) and three that state Ivanovic had an easy match. I suppose clarifiction is needed - is the problem the lack of citations, or are these summaries inappropriate in this tone, even with citations? Yohan euan o4 (talk) 11:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing Style 

message: Can someone add updates to the Aussie Open? Since it's the quarterfinals already, the results will be needed there. Thanks. --Howard the Duck 10:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: serbian star & no three seeded novak djokovic beat federrer by 5-7 3-6 6-7 federrer lost after 19 consecutive win in australian open  he lost in 2005 final last time  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usman 1910 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A very big dismissal   Fed express lost in semi  

message: This article needs some substantial work before it can pass GA
*The article is not appropriately weighted in terms of the coverage of the matches. Basically all matches are given equal precedence, rather than increasing precedence from the first round to the final. eg, the match between Federer and Djokovic is only described in one short sentence describing the score and another short sentence describing Federer's streak, and is not much longer than other arbitrary selected matches in the earlier parts of the tournament
*The description of the matches is a little mechanical and relies heavily on just raw data, instead of discussing the implication of the matches as seen by the tennis experts. eg, Djokovic and Tsonga upsetting Federer and Nadal led to commentators speculating about the next generation of players breaking the Federer-Nadal duopoly etc.
*The important matches such as the final, semifinal, KO of Henin etc, need to be explained in more detail wrt how they unfolded, rather than simply having a link to a separate article.
*There is no preview-type section that discusses the lead-up to the tournament - who was in form leading in, who was fancied to win, lead up form etc.
*24 hr clock should be used per the MOS, eg in quoting the time in the Baghdatis-Hewitt match and other long matches which went until 2am etc.
*For the scores, ndashes should be used, eg 7–5, 6–2, 6–4 rather than 7-5, 6-2, 6-4.
*The lead needs to be much longer and summarise the tournament in a more holistic way. At the moment it looks as though the lead was written before the tournament and then the result was tacked on at the end.
*The tenses need to be updated to reflect the historic nature of the even.t Some parts of the article are still written in future tense: "X will meet Y in the next round"
*Single sentence paragraphs need to be expanded or merged and integrated
*Large chunks of the matchplay section are unsourced, particularly in the matchplay results sections.
* Per MOS, the full names of the players do not need to be repeated over and over
*The illegal coaching, too long matches should be integrated into the main chronological account. Whereas the more general stuff such as corruption and pedophiles are more off-field type things that should remain separate.
*The seniors section after the day by day section is choppy and is best integrated into the general account. Else it would be best to split the men and women into separate sections and treat them as individual events,
*The quotefarm and the gallaery definitely should be integrated into the appropriate and relevant section of text. Especially some of the quotes do not add much that is encyclopedic but are somewhat humourous anedotal things.
*Is it really necessary to placate the Chinese Communist Party and not use the Flag of the Republic of China? What was the official registration of Taiwanese players?
*Full access dates and author details are needed on the sources.
Best regards, Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 03:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks. Perhaps I was a bit hasty nominating it so quickly. I'll try to address some of these points and maybe even apply them when working on articles for future slams. Regarding the players from Taiwan, or, the Republic of China, the decision to designate them as representatives of 'Chinese Taipei' is done in order to maintain consistency, as this is how the tennis organization bodies list them. They're entered as this in most sporting events, see Flag of Chinese Taipei (if you haven't already). Yohan euan o4 (talk) 16:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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