Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines/Fleet

message: My vote is for the United one. Tables can screw up the display (or in the case of the Delta one, just look hideous), and I think the expanded list format is more appropriate for fleet info. The US Airways one is a little too sparse, so I'd go with the United style. Dbinder 21:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: Orders are important in my mind. The engine types are of interest for mergers since the same aircraft equipped with different engines can have different controls and would be an issue in a merger. Planned fleet reductions are important. Overwater rated aircraft may be worth a note. Do we worry about commonality of aircraft in terms of crew staffing? As an example, it is one rating for A-317, A-319 and A-320 but another common one for the A-330 and A-340. How do we deal with sleeper beds and other ammenities offered on some aircraft and not others. Is the number of seating classes important? Vegaswikian 21:25, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments on some of the data

message: The US Air format is great, though does it need to be centered? Also, should the number of seats be included? I mean, can't this change rather often. I like the following based on suggestions here and other places:
Type           	Number	Orders/Options         	Notes
Airbus A320-800	10    	20 on order, 20 options	Launch airline for Airbus 320
Boeing 747-400 	35    	                       	Largest fleet of Boeing 747-400
To see how it looks, look at Aeroflot.
I know that some fleet charts contain lots of information (see Delta). The notes column could be used to give different airlines a unique flavor and at the same time keeping it simple. 
As for the order, I like keeping jets at the top starting with Airbus (in numerical order such as A320, A330, A340), then Boeing (i.e. 737, 747, DC10, MD11, MD82), then any others in alphabetical order. Then planes with turboprops would follow, possible in a separate chart.
So, how does this work? Who decides which format becomes the standard and when it should be implemented?
--mnw2000
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To restart this discussion here is a portion of the United table.  Since it contains most of what everyone wants, I'd suggest that we make this the standard if there are no serious objections I'll add it to the project page in a few days.  Vegaswikian 21:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fleet Chart 

message: My vote is for the Northwest Airlines one.  It is clear and simple, as I have been editing it generally for the past couple of months.  I have intergrated this table style in ALL US Major Airlines as well as ALL SkyTeam airlines.  I dislike the "old" delta table listed their... I did change their table format to the one that Northwest Airlines has... and some changes to the general Northwest Airlines table has been changed.  I also like the United Airlines one, but... editing in that table is difficult where my format in the Northwest Airlines table is very simple to edit and format.  The following suggestions should be considered
 Northwest Airlines Fleet
Type           	Total       	Passengers(First*/Economy)	Routes                              	Notes
Airbus A319-100	66(5 Orders)	                          	United States, Canada, Mexico Routes	Short-Medium Haul Domestic Routes
Airbus A320-200	72(2 Orders)	                          	United States, Canada, Mexico Routes	Short-Medium Haul Domestic Routes
Center the table.  Have the airlines name and fleet right above the table as shown, and use Economy as coach sounds tacky.  Golich 17 27 October 2006
*Planes have seats and not pasengers. Your reason for not supporting the UA style box appears to be that it does not support the routes flown on.  Its that really important encylopedic material?  You also don't want to use it because it is a bit harder to set up.  However the display on the UA layout is a lot easier to read and much clearer.  If there is a compromise maybe it is to use the UA one with the last column labeled notes/routes?  That way the information you want to add is included and the better layout is kept.  Vegaswikian 01:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vegaswikian 18:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northwest Airlines table all the way. 

message: Seems like the 4 column design is winning out. Nice and simple. I recently updated Delta Airlines with the four column design. So my two cents worth...
Passenger vs. Seats - Seats are what are available whether passengers sit in them or not.
Centering - This is tricky. 
If the number is followed on the same line by something in parentheses, like orders, then NO.
If the information in parentheses is below the number, then YES. See an example below. See how the numbers line up nicely?
Centered        	Not Centered
450(15 on order)	450 (15 on order)
250             	450
I, personally, like the number of planes with the number on order below it in parentheses CENTERED and 
the number of seats with the class breakdown next to it LEFT JUSTIFIED.
Again, my two cents... user:mnw2000 04:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Has any consensus been reached on fleet tabling? I think the multiple different formats listed on the project page is confusing to someone who stumbles upon the fleet page because it doesn't give clear direction about how to proceed. --Matt 23:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2, 3, 4 or 5 Column Design