Talk:Far Right in the United Kingdom

message: He denies the existance of the constituent countries of the UK. He mentioned "Britain", "British" etc ... over 80 times in his Labour Party conference speech. He utilises phrases such as "British jobs for British workers" without shame. He is a British nationalist, it does not fit with the article as it stands currently (which focuses on ethnic nationalism) - but he is a British nationalist.
:I agree. This article seems to confuse British nationalism (as in Scottish nationalism), with white nationalism. Yes the article should mention the ethnic-driven political movement, but shouldn't be primarily concerned with it. In this capacity, I'm going to tag the article with a "re-write" template. Jza84 13:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost all UK politicians are British nationalists! Woblosch 10:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can anyone tell me why it is inappropriate to consider Gordon Brown a British nationalist? 

message: Just a note that I've renamed the article from British nationalism to Far right in the United Kingdom. This is in keeping with other such articles, like Far right in Switzerland, and Unionism in Scotland etc etc. I have about five sources in front of me stating that British nationalism is nothing to do with what was written here, and in this capacity, I hope thats a fair enough rationale for the renaming. -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-title

message: From reading the talk page of this article, it seems that it was originally written about British nationalism. In terms of British nationalism, it may well be correct to refer to parties such as UKIP. However, it has now been moved to "far right in the United Kingdom". It should therefore not cover parties such as UKIP, which is not a far-right party.
The article implied that Euroscepticism is right wing. This is not true. There are both left and right wing Eurosceptic parties - take for example No2EU, a left wing, trade union movement that is running in these European Parliament elections.  It is not within the scope of an article about the far right to talk about Eurosceptic groups and parties such as UKIP. I have therefore removed all references to UKIP and similar parties and groups, and to the assertion that to be Eurosceptic is to be far right. TomPhil 22:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of UKIP and Eurosceptic groups 

message: It is bad wikipedia practice to rename an article without discussion. Can this be debated please?BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be moved back because "radical nationalism" is more inclusive and what connects all the groups indisputibly. The term "far right" is generally used by the fifth collumn. For instance some groups, like the Conservative Monday Club and Springbok Club are on the far-right by any measure and the earlier imperial leagues were too. While its completely debated whether the fascists are (Mosley was a Labour Party socialist just before creating the BUF) many consider them a third way. And the working-class radical nationalist movement in Britain during the 1950s-1980s seem to be left-national socialist Strasserism forms. Such group are not some sort of "exotic Tories", and do not fit the universal classification of right; monarchists, aristocrats, theocracy. All groups are however, radical nationalists. - Yorkshirian (talk) 10:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide citation evidence for the use of the term "radical nationalism" in respect of these various groups.  Your opinion about an appropriate name does not really count.  --Snowded TALK  10:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undiscussed renaming