Talk:Tzipi Livni

message: Why on earth is it relevant what a widely-despised fringe group says?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.214.132 (talk) 09:10, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: JStreet

message: Per NY Times, 2008 Jan 8, she is 47, and they include a pic that makes her look more that age.  She probably should have an updated pic. --Jerzy•t 19:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: age

message: Is it possible for some one to add her name's pronunciation in .ogg voice format? Just like ex-Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin were you could find an Icon before his name for pronunciation. I would like to know how her name is pronounced correctly. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.240.64 (talk) 10:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of her name 

message: That bottom section reads like a news bulletin - it definitely needs finessing. Biruitorul 21:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Israel-Lebanon conflict

message: Personally, I don't like Livni, but the new 'main picture' of her is horrendous, not just the way she looks, but also overexposed too. Does not do justice to WP. --Shuki 23:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  image 

message: please see hebrew profile here. Apparently, her grandmother on her father's side. --Shuki 18:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malka 

message: I had to reverse an edit describing Livni as Acting Prime Minister. The last I checked Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was still in good health, performing his powers and duties. GoodDay 21:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Olmert is the Interim Prime Minister. Livni remains the designated Acting Prime Minister in case Olmert is incapacitated. Try reading Deputy leaders of Israel. пﮟოьεԻ 57 15:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no vice prime minister in Israel. Leaders in a Number two position might be an  acting prime minister (who will stand in for an incapacitated prime minister, in the event of illness, etc.) or a deputy prime minister (I'm not sure what that position entails, either - mainly, it's a title). --Gilabrand (talk) 08:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if that's true, than this page needs some fixing, as it still describes Livni as Vice Prime Minister of Israel. This strikes me as a problem, as Livni is a figure of no small import (which is not to say that I have anything but contempt for her politics). -Rojo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.173.216 (talk) 09:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The confusion is because Israel uses (or translates) the terms somewhat differently from other countries. In Israel the "Acting Prime Minister" is the person who designated as the one who will take over running the government if the Prime Minister is incapacitated - but this designation is used before then so they are sort of a "Stand-in Apparent". (Whereas in other countries the "Acting Prime Minister" only refers to them when they're actually minding the shop.) This is different from the posts of Deputy Prime Minister and Vice Prime Minister - see Deputy leaders of Israel for the whole situation. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the translation problem is one that I have been calling attention to for awhile (see Talk:Deputy leaders of Israel.)  The literal translation of the phrase that describes Livni's position is something like "Prime Minister's place-filler."  (Someone who knows Hebrew, please confirm if you can.)  I see no reason why that should be translated into English as "Acting Prime Minister."  It really is not proper English and is confusing (see above and the discussions at Talk:Deputy leaders of Israel.)  "Vice Prime Minister" would be a much more accurate translation.  "Vice" is the term most often used in English to describe the person who will take over from another person if necessary (in fact "vice" came into use for this purpose because it was Latin for "in place of".)  I do realize there is another Israeli government position that is translated into English as Vice Prime Minister (sometimes Vice Premier), namely the position recently held by Shimon Peres and then by Haim Ramon, but maybe that also should be translated as something else.  Can any of the Hebrew-speakers tell us what that position's literal translation is?  And what about what we call "Deputy Prime Minister" -- which seems to be yet another misnomer, because "deputy" also implies "second", which is not the case, as the "Deputy Prime Ministers" are really no higher than fourth in the hierarchy.  I am not suggesting that Wikipedia adopt some rogue translation that nobody else uses, but it would be nice if someone got the translation right.  6SJ7 (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Acting Prime Minister - this is the term the Knesset, Haaretz, The Jerusalem Post use. The fact that it may confuse some people is not a reason to change - Wikipedia is not dumbed down. пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I pointed out a few years ago, it has not always been so consistent.  And it's not a question of "dumbing down", it's a question of blindly following other peoples' errors.  But I guess there is really nothing we can do about it.  6SJ7 (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Acting Prime Minister?

message: Is hardly relevant and was ad hominem, hence belongs in Gerald Kaufman and not in this entry. In general, if one wishes to report on the criticism of Livni then it should be edited properly and partitioned into subjects (.e.g criticism emanating from the Gaza operation etc.). Mashkin (talk) 14:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Kaufman's criticism

message: "Livni is a vegetarian since age 12" should be "Livni has been a vegetarian since the age of 12", thank-you. Canuck-qw (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (already) –Capricorn42 (talk) 09:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  grammar/syntax 

message: This article probably needs to be updated now that elections have taken place, and should continue to be updated as post-election events unfold. Tad Lincoln (talk) 06:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  update/current event 

message: I just removed the reference that Livni was involved in Operation Bayonet. The citation doesn't indicate that it's the same thing. Temporal User (Talk) 23:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am personally unaware of a separate Bayonet entity.  News agency often get these things wrong and I assumed that what they were calling the elite hit squad Bayonet in Paris was in fact the same thing as Operation Bayonet which reputedly continued in operation into the 1980's (it would seem odd to have two separate entities working in the same city but named the same).  Still, as you indicate, the citation does not specifically reference Operation Bayonet, so I understand the change.The Original Historygeek (talk) 05:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, now here is an interesting article- http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv-reviews/munich--operation-bayonet/2006/09/04/1157222058004.html- a review of a documentary of Operation Bayonet which specifically refers to the unit involved in that operation also as Bayonet.  Makes sense that the two are one and the same.The Original Historygeek (talk) 05:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bayonet isn't the same as [[Operation Bayonet]]? 

message: "Gov't Position"? PluniAlmoni (talk) 20:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not clear what you are asking.  If you are referring to the info box and questioning whether "Opposition Leader" is a "government position", first of all it says "gov't role", not "gov't position", I think "role" is a little broader.  Second, "government" is (it seems) being used in its broadest sense here, more the way it is used in the U.S. (where it means any position in the executive, legislative or judicial branches) than the way it is used in Israel, where I believe it is usually used to mean just the Cabinet.  According to the article Leader of the Opposition (Israel) this is an official position, recognized by Israeli law.  So I think "gov't role" is close enough for an infobox, where there really isn't a lot of room for nuance or explanation.  6SJ7 (talk) 19:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposition Leader 

message: According to this, NoCal was one of a series of sockpuppets. Might be worth looking out what changes he made to the article and seeing whether they in fact belong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.67.40 (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Look out changes made by NoCal100 

message: "they risk being arrested on charges of alleged war crimes"
The use of "alleged" here is redundant since their is no such charge as an "alleged war crime".  You can always infer that if someone is charged there is an allegation against them - warranted or not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.51.7 (talk) 18:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant phrasing 

message: I've marked this section as POV, as it only includes the views of opponents of the warrant (mainly members of the UK and Israeli governments). There is no coverage of the views of the supporters of the warrant - for example those who applied for it. I'm not familiar enough with the events, which is why I haven't fixed it myself. Cynical (talk) 14:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely agree. A large part of the UK population (possibly even a majority) broadly supported the issuing of the arrest warrant, which you'd never guess from the article. "Chagrined British officials" is hardly a NPOV phrase. The whole article reads like a hagiography but any changes will just be reverted by activists. I've learned to distrust any WP article about any right wing politician. --Ef80 (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK arrest warrant 

message: "In Israel she has earned a reputation as honest, clean, and sticking to her principles."
Do other politicians have things like that written on their Wikipedia pages? It doesn't seem appropriate to me. 99.237.3.66 (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article sounds like it's straight from Livni's campaign 

message: Zipi Livnis new party is called "The Movement". But exactly this was also the name given by Adolf Hitler to his own party, the NSDAP.
The circle is now closed --- when will I be able to live in a world without jews, christians, muslims, protestants, capitalists, communists, Marxists, fascists, Nazis, Hollywood cinema, etc.?
All “humans” are still under the unconscious influence of these “jewish memes”. If there had been no Jews, there would have been no Nazis!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.0.201.24 (talk) 23:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Livnis new party: "The Movement" (cf. NSDAP) 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Tzipi Livni's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Knesset":
From Tal committee: 
From Valley of Peace initiative: Address to the Knesset by Shimon Peres on assuming the office of President of Israel, MFA website, 7/15/07.
From Shas: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Tzipi Livni]] 

message: Template:Infobox member of the Knesset has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox officeholder. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination for merging of Template:"Infobox member of the Knesset" 

message: For the "Leader of Hatnuah" succession box Tzipi Livni is still down as incumbent, but Hatnauh's article indicates it is a party that no longer  exists. Thus should this be changed to something else (eg None - party disbanded)? Dunarc (talk) 22:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leader of Hatnuah succession box