Talk:North American Soccer League (1968–1984)

message: The map needs to be fixed.  Among other things, Denver is nowhere near where it should be.  If it isn't fixed in a reasonable time, I will remove it. KitHutch 13:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NASL Map

message: I don't think that belongs here. Regardless of what happened to the league NASL, it shouldn't be here in it's entirety. It belongs in the MLS article itself. It should say something like, "MLS, now the Division One league of the United States, has taken precautions against such circumstances." And then LINK to the other article. But don't, for goodness sake, just slap the whole thing in there! It LOOKS and SOUNDS stupid and unprofessional, and while I do as well, it's more important that the article does than I do. I'm changing it. T.z0n3 00:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MLS Part

message: That map is terrible.  It shows Denver as being in central Wyoming and Washington D.C. bordering West Virginia, among many other errors.
What about the Detroit Express?  They featured Trevor Francis.
Why don't you check out or add to the Detroit Express article? They are listed on the team section under the Washington Diplomats because that is where they moved to. KitHutch 01:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Discussions

message: This phrase is confusing: "American college and high school soccer still use some NASL-style rules". What rules are those? I understand that the The Laws of the Game allow leagues for younger players to makes changes such as shortened periods, smaller sized balls, more flexible substitution, and fewer players on the field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.185.201.194 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article.  NASL had a countdown clock and sudden death overtime.  Those are still used in college and high school soccer in the US. KitHutch (talk) 17:24, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But were these NASL innovations that were later adopted by college and high school soccer, or were they rules already being used in American scholastic and amateur leagues integrated into the NASL? —Wiki Wikardo 06:21, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable influence of NASL rules on other leagues 

message: Am glad to announce that the North American Soccer League has just been voted as "featured article" on it.wiki. As I used also material published in the English article, wish to thank all the users who have contributed to this item. Blackcat it 14:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA on it.wiki 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Nasl.png

message: on the nasl seasons pages  
what does the V N P GF GS PT  stand for 
Ranul (talk) 17:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like someone copied the NASL seasons from a foreign language website without translating them into English.  I would say that V is wins, N is ties, P is losses, GF is Goals For, GS is Goals Against, and PT is points in a season (The NASL had a weird standings systems where teams got 6 points for a win and 1 point for every goal scored up to three pergame).  BTW, there is a better article for the final NASL season at 1984 NASL season. KitHutch (talk) 23:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Script on NASL pages

message: I disagree with this article being name "North American Soccer League (1968–1984)" and the new NASL article taking the title "North American Soccer League".  There are many many many already existing links in other Wikipedia articles that originally linked and referred to this page but now point the upstart league. This was a poorly thought out name change. The original NASL is still very relevant in the history of North American soccer and deserves its former article title with no qualifiers. This 21st century league is the new, unproven entity and therefore should be the one distinguishing itself from the old league — not the other way around. --Blackbox77 (talk) 13:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Name 

message: There are now altogether too many flags in the article. The rules regarding their use are such that they should not appear next to the team (does anyone not know that Toronto Blizzard, Vancouver Whitecaps, etc. are Canadian teams and the rest are American?). They should also not appear next to a coach or player if the individual is from the same country as the team. I can find the reference, but I would request that this be applied correctly rather than getting into an edit war over the flags' presence. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree.  There were too many flags on this page.  What is the exact policy when it comes to flags per article? KitHutch (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment. I think that when there are that many flags you must be Wavin' Flag. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many flags?

message: Next time I am at a  library with microfilm of old newspaper I will look up the title of the article from mpls strib on the nasl.  this meantions only 2 teams interested in 85 (no names given). Smith03 (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: End of NASL

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Knoxville Sounds, Toledo Battle/Tornado, Omaha Kings or Lincoln Federals, Oakland/New Orleans/Mobile Buccaneers, Provo Strikers, Wichita Wings and California Sunshine (Anaheim/Orange county) were professional soccer teams, not sure they were in NASL. The California Surf were also called the Santa Barbara Surf, while the Los Angeles Aztecs were replaced by the L.A. Olympians in 1984, and I believe the Las Vegas Americans were briefly the Lazers or Lasers (not sure which). And finally, the Dallas Tornado vs. Houston Hurricane rivalry in Texas, again I'm unsure they were NASL teams (never mind, they were, might changed leagues). 67.49.89.214 (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: None of these "missing" teams you have listed were ever in the NASL.  They were all in other leagues.  Look on those teams pages for those leagues.  California Surf and Santa Barbara Surf were different teams in different leagues.  LA Olympians are not related to the LA Aztecs. KitHutch (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing teams 

message: Is this really needed? What exactly is the criteria? There were a ton of players who won titles in other leagues as Johnny Giles did. And if we include all of those the table would become unwieldy. Plus, some of the players listed didn't have a large impact on the game in North America. For example, Oscar and Johnny Giles only played a handful of matches in the NASL. 1982vdven (talk) 17:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure. It's interesting to see some of those world class names in a list form even for those of us who grew up watching them. I've also noticed that many younger people really don't have a clue about the old NASL. When I mention the Cosmos, the Rowdies or the NASL greats to people under 30 (even here in Tampa), they think I'm talking about these Div. 2 squads playing in the current North American Soccer League –no disrespect intended. Then I tell them to look it up. Guess where the usually wind up looking? Wikipedia. Because soccer has taken so long to take hold in North America, I think the list is a good thing in terms of a visual historical context. MLS has certainly attracted stars in recent years (Beckham, Keane, Henry, Pirlo, Gerrard, Lampard, Kaka, David Villa, etc.), but I would argue that it was a much bigger deal to make the move in the 1970s and that the names themselves were bigger. Regarding Johnny Giles and Oscar specifically; have you considered just removing the two of them. Just my two cents.--Creativewill (talk) 03:18, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I will remove Oscar, Giles and Masnik (6 games with the Cosmos in 1975).1982vdven (talk) 18:05, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players table 

message: I was wondering everyone's thoughts on whether or not the current Fort Lauderdale Strikers should be considered "active" on the NASL section: Teams named after NASL teams  –and therefore be listed in bold type. As you may know they are currently defendants in a lawsuit brought on by the Tampa Bay Rowdies owner for money owed, and are are not playing this year in any league. Their front office organization still exists at this point, but things aren't exactly rosy. Just trying for a consensus, rather than an edit war. What do you think: bold or not bold? cheers to all, -Creativewill (talk) 15:22, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If they're not playing they're not active. At least that seems to be a pretty straightforward concept. oknazevad (talk) 15:43, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that "not active" is preferable.Jeff in CA (talk) 21:43, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that Bill Edwards has won both the lawsuit and the auction to control the brand "Fort Lauderdale Strikers" I think that everyone can now agree that the team is inactive. Creativewill (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fort Lauderdale Strikers: active or not? 

message: I'm having some issues identifying the references for attendance in this article. So far the closest I have seen are this and this, neither of which appear to be reliable sources. Am I missing something here, or are we really lacking citations about the attendance statistics? Jay eyem (talk) 23:06, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attendance references? 

message: Twice the article uses "outlaw" in quotes, once also saying "unsanctioned" without quotes.  Can these concepts be explained in non-jargon?  Especially, the use of quotes with "outlaw" suggests the author was knowingly using the term with some specialized meaning attached, which is going over my head. Swiss Frank (talk) 21:48, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look now. Jeff in CA (talk) 01:38, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outlaw?