Talk:Juraj Jánošík

message: Yes, this is a stub, but it should not be deleted. I have added some information. Danny 02:55, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub

message: "often described as the "Slovak Robin Hood." Where is he described as Robin Hood? Przykuta 13:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Robin Hood

message: What is the Fico connection here?  I removed it, as it looks just like a cheap attack.  It's pretty strange to talk about a legendary figure and then say "here's the current aftermath."  That doesn't make sense. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The source said what you deleted. The last move of the now resigned defence minister was Jánosik's promotion to lietutant or what. see User talk:Elonka at the bottom. --Rembaoud (talk) 14:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The source is not in a language that I can read, but just on a quick glance and the number of exclamation points, it seems to be a tabloid, so not exactly a reliable source.  Can you find a stronger source for the paragraph? --Elonka 14:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I did not notice this "promotion" among all fantasies about Jánošík that some members of Slovak government has produced in recent months, I was trying to search for it. Nothing so far in Slovak sources - and there are publishers who are eager to display all such things... Maybe Rembaoud will have more luck. --Ruziklan (talk) 15:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fico strangeness 

message: The second paragraph seems too long to me.  I don't really know how important historically or legendary he is, but I suggest splitting either the historical or the legend part into a separate section following the bio.  Thus, the structure would be "intro + overall why's famous, bio on person, other with him, growth and spread into legendary status, in film, literature, etc."  Any other views? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of the 2nd lead paragraph 

message: This article appears to be within the scope of several disputes between Hungarian and Slovakian editors.  To address this, a central page has been setup at User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment, where several of the issues are being discussed, and work is being done towards the creation of a guideline which will help reduce such disputes in the future.  Any interested editors are invited to join the page and participate in the discussion. --Elonka 15:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hungarian-Slovakian disputes

message: I notice that there is some back and forth on which name to use in this article.  Could the next editor to change it, please provide an actual published source?  Thanks, Elonka 19:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found Terchová/Tyerhova/Terhely in the 1882 gazetteer of Hungary, originally published by the Hungarian National Royal Statistical Office. See under "Zsolnai járás", it was Tyerhova then. That doesn't mean it had that name in the 17th century too, but it's more likely than the newer Terhely. Markussep Talk 20:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks.  Would that be useful at the actual Terchová article? --Elonka 20:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe. I'm not sure it ever had a significant Hungarian population, since it's a small place and far from the usual Hungarian settling areas (southern and eastern Slovakia), so the relevance of the Hungarian name(s) could be limited. Markussep Talk 20:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible I did some mistake.Nmate (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming

message: I had to revert several of Nmates today's edits:
*the comparison with Robin Hood is rather common (see Google), and the comparison with Rumcajs is not common, and more likely to be Nmates opinion of Jánošík
*there's a difference between ruffian (a brutal person) and highwayman (someone who robs travelers). The second is much more applicable. "Ruffian" is not a correct translation of "zbojník".
Furthermore: is there evidence that he was a Goral? Markussep Talk 10:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You may think the comparison with Robin Hood is not right, but he is often compared to Robin Hood, and that's what the article says. "Highwayman" isn't a positive term by itself either, but it's a description of his profession and not of his character (which is likely to be subjective), and therefore better than "ruffian". About Gorals: you may be right, but your word is not enough. Was Terchová 100% Goral in the 17th century? Please provide references. Markussep Talk 08:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

text: You really should stop making those belittling remarks about Slovaks, that doesn't help at all. Markussep Talk 17:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Another chauvinistic remark by Nmate. Nothing new to see here...--Svetovid (talk) 18:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I ask that the above personal attacks be removed. As to the article it could benefit from some real information such as info from Eva Krekovičová and others apart from listing the myths that were created much later and are unsupported by any evidence. Hobartimus (talk) 01:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would you want NMate's personal attacks removed? Let other see his intentions.--Svetovid (talk) 11:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Let's keep the discussion focused on the article, not the editor.  I'd also like to see the above section header changed so it is not personally-targeted. --Elonka 11:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why? Is it inaccurate?--Svetovid (talk) 16:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: So do you have anything to say about the actual contents of the article?--Svetovid (talk) 20:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nmates edits 

message: ... of this article is rather a mix of legends and real facts. However, it's always pointed out, what is fact, and what is a part of legend. I've added minor specification related to Jánošík's death and useful link for possible translation (I can't find any good English source...) The correct English translation of Slovakian zbojník is outlaw, not robber or ruffian. The comparison with Rumcajs is irrelevant, although very funny - Rumcajs is a fictional character from famous Czech cartoon . It was only joke, I suppose. It's possible to point out the comparison with Robin Hood, since the Jánošík legend represents for many Slovaks symbol of the brave defender of the poor and downtrodden people. Jánošík as a historical person has, of course, nothing in common with that famous English hero. The article needs to distinguish the historical description of Jánošík's life and his significance as a Slovak national hero. Both is possible without heated arguments and edit wars. We need to concentrate on description of the relevant facts. I've added also two references. The author of this link, Milan Ferko from Matica slovenská, listed these books as important secondary sources for another study of Jánošík. --Vejvančický (talk) 09:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current version 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Juraj Jánošík. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081202030044/http://www.ilcik.cz/tradice/janosik/ to http://www.ilcik.cz/tradice/janosik
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:10, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Juraj Jánošík. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://archive.is/20130128162520/http://www.iarelative.com/history/janosik.htm to http://www.iarelative.com/history/janosik.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified