Talk:List of red-light districts

message: I found this article because it linked to Rose Street which I created.
However, I think it is unmaintable. Almost every city of a few hundred thousand, and usually not under a particularly despotic regime has one. There must be hundreds and hundreds of such places around the world. --MacRusgail 20:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's never likely to be complete, but that's not a reason not to have it. -- Necrothesp 23:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, it's never likely to be complete, that's not my argument. My argument is that there are so many of them that the list is unmaintainable, particularly when you factor in the many defunct ones which would presumably include places like Pompeii and Ephesus. It could run into thousands, and thus be so long as to be unusable --MacRusgail 15:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would it be unusable? It's structured, ergo it's usable. -- Necrothesp 17:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: (lots of unintentional innuendo here!) It would be too long, and has two problems in, a) its vastness, and b) the speed with which these areas come and go. In Edinburgh, they often appear and disappear in a matter of months.--MacRusgail 15:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, obviously only well-established and well-known areas should be included, not streets used by prostitutes for a few months. This is supposed to be a guide for interest and research, not a travel guide for sex tourists! There are plenty of websites where people could find those if they really wanted them. Every major town may have places used by prostitutes, but that's not the same thing as a well-established red-light district (which is usually mentioned, if it exists or existed, even in ordinary travel guides). If you can't write an article about it then it probably shouldn't be listed here. -- Necrothesp 18:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: perhaps there should be another list for streets used for hooking and this one should be strictly for well known red light districts, either way i think all of the information is worth keeping. --AlexOvShaolin 02:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dropping by

message: ====Mexico====
How can a list of red light districts in Mexico omit Tijuana? Dick Kimball (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: North America

message: How can a list of red light districts in Mexico omit Tijuana? Dick Kimball (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mexico

message: There really should be an entry on Nevada, which has legal brothels scattered around most counties except Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno). Dick Kimball (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: United States

message: ====Dominican Republic====
I thought it was common knowledge that the Dominican Republic had a very casual attitude toward prostitution, especially around Santo Domingo and the beach resorts. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Caribbean

message: I thought it was common knowledge that the Dominican Republic had a very casual attitude toward prostitution, especially around Santo Domingo and the beach resorts. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dominican Republic

message: ====Costa Rica====
Most recommended is the Hotel Del Rey [] in San Jose: five stories, bright pink, four bars, and most of their prostitutes speak English. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Central America

message: Most recommended is the Hotel Del Rey [] in San Jose: five stories, bright pink, four bars, and most of their prostitutes speak English. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Costa Rica

message: ====Venezuela====
Operators of international sex tours to Venezuela advertise that they include one or more female companions, condoms, and Viagra. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: South America

message: Operators of international sex tours to Venezuela advertise that they include one or more female companions, condoms, and Viagra. Dick Kimball (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Venezuela

message: Opinion: As I look at this article and read the old discussion above on maintainability it seems to me that the issue needs to be resolved. That is, the list is not "complete" by any definition and it does not appear that it is really headed toward being "complete." I would say that one of two things needs to happen:
#Define a scope for the list and get a list of all districts that meet the criteria (removing anything that doesn't meet the criteria), or
#Delete the article.
It seems that if the scope is constrained sufficiently it should not be hard to complete the list. But at this point the list is more a random list of items that people have inserted as they feel like it. This is not encyclopedic. The fact that any individual item in the list is referenced and notable does not make the whole list notable. It is only notable if it is complete according to some definition (and that definition should ideally be notable to some degree or another).
--Mcorazao (talk) 16:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Completeness 

message: An IP editor added this link and then objected to it's removal on the grounds that it's "a project ... which tries to map all known urban red light districts". Be that as it may, it doesn't really belong here for a few reasons:
*Wikipedia is not a guidebook
*It's a personal project unrelated to wikipedia, so using wikipedia to promote it is inappropriate
*It contains uncited info, so associating it with wikipedia is potentially harmful to the project
*It's not even close to "all known urban red light districts", at present it's limited in scope to France, the UK, and some scattered parts of Europe
I'm sure there's other reasons, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Kuguar03 (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite sure how to respond in the proper wikipedia way:
**Linking to a map which visualizes the given information is additional value.
**This list of red light districts on wikipedia is not even close to "all known urban red light districts". The mapping project clearly states that it is work in progress searching for input on various channels.  
**The mapping is taking place within a research project. Research is the basis of all wikipedia articles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.5.167 (talk) 22:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately that's not the way wikipedia works. When and if this becomes published research, there may be a way to incorporate it, but as it stands it's inappropriate to include. Kuguar03 (talk) 22:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing random Google map link 

message: ::Allright Kuguar. Together we can wok on this article. I am busy deleting all entries without citation to not harm the project. I guess we should check all given citations since they are not really valid ressource if I understood you right.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.5.167 (talk) 22:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The better thing to do would be to add citations if you can find them. The article's already tagged as needing improved references. Kuguar03 (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That might be better but I don't think wikipedia or any encyclopedia works like this. Given information needs a valid source. If this doesn't exist adding a banner which tells to add citation is not of much use since you might provide false information. in germany you would call it doppelmoral. especially you should understand this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.5.167 (talk) 23:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is an ongoing, collaborative project. You should probably read the intro pages and do some simple edits first. Making massive changes to articles without discussion is general not a good idea. This article in particular involves some complex issues and has been the subject of much discussion (see above). Kuguar03 (talk) 23:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Haven't made massive changes. Just deleted the entries without proper citation. I believe such entries are what you call "potentially harmful to the project". Seeing that you revoked all necessary changes affirms my opinion that your acting is a clear case of double standards. Otherwise I could publish an article without any citations with maybe lots of false information (like the manchester part in this article) waiting for somebody to find proper ressources to backup what's written. I guess you made your own directives which you follow but don't call it the proper wikipedia way. 78.49.36.135 (talk) 13:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

text: It is interesting that the self-appointed guardians of wikipedia policies are talking about posible harms but are not interested at all to keep articles at least truthfully.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.108.249 (talk) 11:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article seems to be an exception to WP:RS. There can be no objection to deleting any entries without citation or not blue-linked to an article with citations. I think there's a lot of BS here. I'm not going to do mass deletions but I am going to delete one red-linked item without citation that I personally know to be BS (Commercial Rd, London, UK)DeCausa (talk) 19:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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