Talk:Many Waters

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replies: text: I have uploaded two images (with fair use rationales) to replace this one: :Image:ManyWatersCrop.jpg (to illustrate this article about the twins), and :Image:ManyWatersCover400px.jpg (to illustrate Many Waters article]]. The 800px image seems a bit large for fair use, and the front and back spread is less than ideal for depicting the twins specifically, so this should help with both of those issues.  Hope nobody minds! -- Karen | Talk | contribs 06:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ManyWatersCover.jpg

message: I just reverted edits to several articles that placed A Swiftly Tilting Planet before Many Waters in the infoboxes and elsewhere. Since this issue comes up fairly often, and people don't always catch the explaination in the Series notes sections, I will explain in a little more detail here.
A Swiftly Tilting Planet was indeed written and published before Many Waters, so in that sense, yes, it came first. However, it actually takes place after Many Waters.  In other words, L'Engle went back to the Murry family eight years after writing Planet, and wrote a new story that takes place in between A Wind in the Door and A Swiftly Tilting Planet. This is easily verified by the fact that Sandy and Dennys are 15-year-old high school students in Many Waters, and college students in A Swiftly Tilting Planet. Also, it seems clear what as of Many Waters, Meg was not yet married.
I suppose an argument can be made for going by publication order rather than character chronology, even though it is less useful to a reader than reading the stories in the order in which they fictionally happened. However, if you do that, then what do you do with The Arm of the Starfish and other books about Meg and Calvin's kids? Publication order would be A Wrinkle in Time where Meg and Calvin are younger than in the other books, and then Starfish, in which they're parents, and then A Wind in the Door - young again, Dragons in the Waters - parents again, and so on. That strikes me as needlessly confusing, especially for infobox purposes. It makes much more sense to go by character chronology. Okay? --Karen | Talk | contribs 05:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series order