Talk:Game/Archive 1

message: I did a pretty heavy copyedit on the article, reorganized a few sections, fixed a whole lot of grammar issues, and linked up the categories of games to their main articles.  Can I get another set of eyes to comb through and catch the errors that I missed and the errors I introduced? Joshua BishopRoby 22:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

message: I know this article is nominated for all this important stuff, and initially I was hesitant to edit it too much, but it felt disjointed to me and late last night the old brain started churning on this one, so Ive gone in and reworked the whole of the intro section. As always, Im happy for this to trigger a whole new wave of wikifying, but I thought if it's not flowing right then I should at least rework it even if initially people want it left fairly static?
Let me know what you think, I tried to ensure all the original points remained included but as always, lets wikify this for the better!
--Evolve2k 15:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bold reworking of introductory paragraphs

message: The article says that baseball contains elements from all three classifications of games, skill, strategy, and chance, but I do not see how the game involves any element of luck or randomness.--Tubby 01:02, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baseball a game of chance? 

message: Many animals play; only humans have games. The existence of rules and criteria that decide the outcome of games implies that games require intelligence of a sophistication unique to humans.
Opens up a big irrelevant can of worms and semanticisms regarding animal intelligence. I changed it to:
Many animals play; only humans confirmably have games. Whether some animals are intelligent enough to game is debatable, though a game has a ritualistic elements (such as rules and procedures) that are voluntarily acted upon, rather than as a result of instinct. The existence of rules and criteria that decide the outcome of games imply that games require intelligence of a significant degree of sophistication. JustSomeKid 04:54, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  animal play/games 

message: The quote in philosophy attributed to Stephen Linhart is a sham. Namely because Stephen Linhart is nobody of importance and should not deserve to be quoted. Here is his website which I found via Google: http://www.stephen.com/
I think unless someone can convince me otherwise it should be taken down.
: Done. Pavel Vozenilek 17:12, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stephen Linhart 

message: Where does this information come from? Who associates games of strategy with "hierarchical societies that place a high value on obedience?" I am not an anthropologist, so perhaps these associations are universaly accepted in the field of anthropology, but it would be nice if the section included some sort of explanation. <<< 147.10.124.198 04:05, 23 October 2005 
*I took a look at the article, and although this is arguably a trivial topic, in any case it's rife with editorial opinions with no substantiation. Hence I put a POV sticker on it. Let the Edit War Games begin! Wahkeenah 04:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm trying to assess this article as one of our "core topics" for the Wikipedia 1.0 project. Can you tell me if the POV problems have been addressed yet?  Thanks Walkerma 20:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *I don't think POV tag is necessary; I don't find it any different from any other article. Can you point out some specifics that you feel warrant it? - JPM  | 22:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The topic is too trivial to worry about. Feel free to remove the tag. d:) Wahkeenah 20:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. - JPM  | 22:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anthropology of Games 

message: <Comment on the following phrase in Games—...only humans confirmably have games.>
Games are play-acting at an activity which in real life is necessary for your Self preservation. 
Examples–fishing, hunting, sports, boxing, gambling, war-games, etc. Sexual intercourse without the desire to have a child is also a game.
Proof.– The more actual the NEED; the more pleasurable, the success; the more sorrowful, the failure.
Yesselman 21:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The arcade game "Qix".  The sport Curling. The board game "Pachisi".  How are these "play-acting at an activity which in real life is necessary for your self preservation?" Applejuicefool 21:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of Games 

message: There has just ben started a new Wikiproject regarding Role playing Games. If you would like to join, please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Role-playing games and add your self. Angelbo 13:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Role-playing games

message: possibly also mention that a game that involves physical activity, generally, can be referred to as a sport, with a link to the sport page. Though, the sport page has been destroyed, it seems.
:I don't have any source for this, but it's my own personal definition: If you could participate in the activity via a proxy (you can tell someone else exactly how to make your moves and you are still considered the player) then it's a game.  If, in such a setup, your proxy would be considered the player and not you, then it's a sport.  
:Examples: In Bridge, you could tell a proxy how to bid and what cards to play.  It would still be your thought behind the moves, so it would be you playing.  Bridge is a game. In Tiddlywinks, however, even if you coach your proxy on where to put the pieces and how to flip them, it's still not your dexterity getting the job done.  Your proxy is the player. Therefore, Tiddly-winks is a sport. Applejuicefool 21:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sports... 

message: The 1st para of "Anthropology" lacks sources and seems implausible to boot. Specifically:
* Games are intimately connected to culture. This is a meaningless sentence
* Tag is associated with hunting. No. It occurs spontaneously among children in non-hunting cultures, e.g. modern American suburbs
* The historical popularity of ballgame in Europe is associated with their familiarity with leather. So baseball comes from timber-using cultures and football from timber-poor cultures? 
* Many martial culture practiced wrestling As do many non-martial cultures. Actually, what is meant by 'martial culture'? 
* Golf originated by a shepard in Scotish highland and maintains its associations with broad, flat stretches of grassland. Scots highlands are not noted for broad, flat stretches of grass
I would strike the entire paragraph unless it can be sourced.  rewinn 03:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anthropology of Games 2: Unsourced & Unlikely