Talk:History of the United States Marine Corps

message: Simmons uses the lowercase "marine" when referring to Colonial Marines. I have decided to retain this convention unless there are objections. --Mmx1 00:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment on capitalization of Colonial Marines

message: This is a very good article.  Is there an interest in putting it up for GA or even working to FA?  — ERcheck (talk) 03:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review 

message: I made some edit on the Marine Corps History article but now my changes are gone. At the Battle of Bladensburg, the oldest US Marine Corps post, The Marine Corps Barrack was spare for their bravery. There was nothing in the article post about that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Okita Soshi (talk • contribs) 17:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: The GWOT section mentions Afghanistan (OEF) and Iraq (OIF), but does not mention other areas that the Marine Corps works in support of GWOT (Reserve support of border patrol, Horn of Africa, etc.)  I think this is an area that should be expanded to include the full scope of USMC GWOT activities. — ERcheck (talk) 00:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion request - GWOT 

message: "and decorated both the 5th and 6th Regiments with the Croix de Guerre. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, then Secretary of the Navy, stated that enlisted Marines would henceforth wear the French Fourragere on the left shoulder of their dress uniforms."
I'd like to point out that only Marines from the 5th and 6th Regiments wear the French Fourragere.  The wording leaves it open to the interpretation that all enlisted Marines wear it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shpeve (talk • contribs) 04:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Fourragere 

message: Obviously the Marine Corps were KEY in the Asiatic-Pacific Campaign.  They WERE the Asiatic-Pacific Campaign. Its a very responsible use of space, content and imagery of the raising of the flag.  I noticed that the article named only the photographer Joe Rosenthal at the raising of the flag, but not any of the names of the Marines in attendance. It is generally believed that their was a lot of anonymity regarding these soldiers.  I do know of atleast one Marine that has been identified and honored in Texas for his participation on Mt. Suribachi.  This Marine's name is Harlon H. Block.  It would be note-worthy in my opinion to include the Marines and Corpsman that were actually raising the flag.  Want some feed back please.
Jerry Zambrano
Jerry.zambrano 08:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is full information on this in the article — Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima.  The Marines in the first and second flag raising are identified in the article.  I don't think that level of detail is needed in this Marine Corps history article, which is already quite long. — ERcheck (talk) 19:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Addendum to the World War II Article

message: I want to discuss the various traditions and symbols of teh Corps (EGA, the hymn, the Rifleman's creed, etc), but I'm undecided over whether it should be a section on this page or a new article. Thoughts? bahamut0013♠♣ 00:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Traditions

message: This article has way more inline citations that I would expect in a B-class article, so I've promoted it.  Its probably ready for a GA review if any of the authors want to give it a try.
Kirk (talk) 14:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be willing to try later on... I still need to flesh out some of the more recent wars, as well as deal with that large unorganized mass of Colonial Marine content that should probably get shifted to that article. I've been meaning to put some time in on this article again for a while. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 15:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotion to B Class

message: In the article I found what seem to be discrepancies and a major omission. Any number of sources state unequivocally that The Continental Marines were founded on November 10, 1775. And that Captain Nicholas' second in command 1st Lt Isaac Craig recruited 63 Marines at Tun's Tavern in Philadelphia. While the original building is long gone the Historical Society of Pennsylvania has provided ample evidence of its existence near Dock St. It is to be expected that each of the four original officers probably went to four separate taverns to recruit Marines along the waterfront. Every year there is a major Marine celebration at a tavern on Oregon Avenue in South Philly where Marines have congregated for many years on November 10th. The Marines then joined Commodore Esek Hopkins squadron and made a successful amphibious landing on New Providence Island. They also gave a good account during the "Glasgow" incident which was blown out of all proper propriety for political reasons. Having spent a great deal of time on the water in fog you can become quickly disoriented. That notwithstanding, you could not pick out your own brother at 50 feet, let alone definitively identify a ship at 100 yards.     
General Cadwalader ordered the Marines under his command to find out if it was safe to make a night crossing over the Delaware. A group of Marines shoved off slightly north of Pennsbury Manor and landed in New Jersey just south of the Assunpink Creek. Upon finding the area quiet Captain Craig ordered one of the boats back to Pennsylvania so that he could report to Cadwalader that it was safe to cross. Cadwalader refused to cross claiming all sorts of ridiculous objections. (Hence the Philly area terminology of a coward being a Cad.) The Marine officer thereupon recrossed the river and extracted his men according to the Cad's orders. Upon arrival back in Pennsylvania General Cadwalader decided to send the Marines back across the river and secure a beachhead for him for his movement at dawn by which time an infuriated General Of The Armies George Washington had already taken Trenton. The Cad's only accomplishment was to roust a small contingent of enemy troops at Assunpink Creek later in the morning. General Washington abruptly sent the Cad back to Philadelphia while he took the Marines and some Pennsy troops to Princeton. The Marines having never faced a bayonet charge by British Regulars panicked. The brilliant, and gallant General Hugh Mercer rode in among them and rallied the Marines at the cost of his life. Captain Craig thereupon was unwillingly conscripted into the Army serving until the end of the war in 1783.
My name is Walter S. Gee III and I am Isaac Craig's lineal descendant by right of primogeniture. I am first and foremost a researcher and second a writer. You can reach me at s<redacted> or at <redacted>  My phone is <redacted> and I live in Copperhill, TN 37317-0423. Should you wish to check out the above your first stop should be The Historical Society of Pennsylvania on Locust St in Philly. Your next stop should be the Carnegie Mellon Library in Pittsburgh, PA. I also located a great deal of information at the Philadelphia Free Public Library. I would also refer you to the National Archives where I also found a great deal of information.
Respectfully Yours,
brother walt gee
:Even if that's all true, it must be sourced to proper reliable sources; that's your job, not ours. I will also point out that the phrase "lineal descendant by right of primogeniture" is gibberish. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 19:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is written as VERIFIED from RELIABLE SOURCES.  The discussion above contains no RELIABLE SOURCES supporting its claims. Fifelfoo (talk) 05:44, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly are the supposed inaccuracies/omissions? It seems all you've done is ramble about the service of one of your ancestors, which wouldn't really be appropriate for this page (though a link to his biographical article certainly would be). Why did you RfC this? bahamut0013wordsdeeds 15:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC: Inaccuracy 

message: LtCol Samuel Edmundson Watson, USMC, seemingly forgotten once believed future C.O. of the USMC. He was a Capt. of the circa 1830's Marine Barracks, Portsmouth Navy Shipyard, Kittery, Maine, and then a close friend (and I assumed kinsman) of my old New England Watson family of Dover, N.H. His actual Watson ancestry was old Virginia. He was later C.O. of the Marine Barracks, Washington, D.C., and thought a likely future Commandant. He was killed in the Mexican War and (temporarily? buried in the same grave with Maj. Twiggs, Gen. Twiggs' son. I think Twigg's remains were recovered to the U.S. after the war. The fate of LtCol Watson's remains are unknown to me. Somewhere it was alleged LtCol Watson made mistakes in that war; but I know no details. His death so effected the Washington Marine Barracks, that it's officers wore black arm-bands on their uniform sleeve, 30 days (was this then an "official" practice? Is it still official?). Where this should go with the USMC, I do not know? My ancestor, LtCol Robert Wm. James (1840's Holmes Co., Miss., militia, born 1811 Wilmington, N.C., died 1882 Biloxi, Miss) was civil an master of the U.S. Army transport 'Gen. Hamer' out of New Orleans, in the Mexican War. His pension application was denied because as a master, he was civilian. What was the pre-war, and post-war names of the "Gen. Hamer"; it's fate, and origins? ∞ focusoninfinity 18:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Samuel Edmundson Watson

message: http://www.flymcaa.org/getattachment/MCAA-Publications/YellowSheetWinter2012Cunningham.pdf.aspx
"Birth" of flight is designated where actual "first flight" took place- in this case, Marblehead, MA, or in the case of the Wright Bros, Kitty Hawk, NC.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.56.88 (talk) 17:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: First Solo Flight of Alfred Cunningham

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