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Talk:No-Fi

message: This article hasn't got much to it. And the description of "no-fi", i.e. "below the standard quality used in most studios", "scratchy with various degrees of hiss", that's just lo-fi by some other name. At the very most this should be a footnote on the Lo-fi page. There may indeed have been a magazine by that name, and people may occasionally have said the word, but it doesn't sound like enough for an article to me. I might be wrong of course. Let me know what you think. --mcld 01:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. If I knew how I would nominate for deletion. Swooch (talk) 12:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Any point?
Talk:Percussion ensemble

message: Article lead currently  reads in part Although the term can be used to describe any such group, it commonly refers to groups of classically-trained percussionists performing primarily classical music.
I'm afraid my immediate reaction to this was what complete and utter rubbish. Percussion ensembles have existed since long before classical training even existed, and the many percussion ensembles that visit Sydney annually, and are billed as Percussion Ensembles, include Taiko, African drum and South Pacific groups. But Googling the term leads some credence to the usage described in the article too, http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/ensembles/Small-Percussion-Ensemble/122?ge=139 for example.
Watch this space. Andrewa (talk) 07:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The same thing struck me, after having written so much on the subject at Noise in music#World traditions. However, your example of Taiko ensembles does not support the thesis of percussion ensembles predating "classical training", unless percussionists managed historically to avoid classical training until well after the Second World War.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I understand the objection... are you saying that Taiko drummers are classically trained, or that Taiko groups are not percussion ensembles? If they aren't classically trained, and if they are percussion ensembles, then isn't that a relevant counter example? Andrewa (talk) 02:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Taiko ensembles are an invention of the 1950s. I believe that classical training of percussionists has been in place since before that time. It is for this reason that I did not mention Taiko in the "Noise in music" article, at the point mentioned, since that section is about unpitched music prior to the 20th century.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 04:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OHO! OK, I didn't know that but I now see it documented at Taiko#Japan. Point taken. Andrewa (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias
Talk:Pfeifer Broz. Music

message: :I think that this page should be deleted because X-Ray Dog was.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.238.174 (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can anyone confirm if one of the brothers died? "Franz" of E.S. Posthumus apparently died this past spring. 96.241.118.50 (talk) 19:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A Robert William Pfeifer (as he's listed on ASCAP), age 44, died in California on May 12, 2010.  I haven't been able to find an obituary, but other people are welcome to try. 173.66.125.175 (talk) 04:40, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Programming (music)

message: Sequencing/programming is used by countless musicians all over the world, yet the two named artists are Japanese video game composers. Including only these two individuals gives the article a distorted view on who actually programs music. I am going to delete the references to these two individuals, as I think the article can do without them. Feel free to revert if you disagree.
75.72.217.99 (talk) 01:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: People

message: The article describes broadly what is used and where it is used, but doesn't say what it is. What specific things does a music programmer do? How would a song that involves music programming be different if no programming occurred? What specific tools/parameters are involved in programming or what type of effects does it result in? I've always wondered about it but this article doesn't much help! Can anyone expand? 70.192.12.93 (talk) 00:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  but what is it? 

message: I noticed that this link was removed in this edit, despite being relevant to this article. What was the reason for this decision? Jarble (talk) 15:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was [[computer generated music]] removed from the "see also" section? 

message: Dr. Universe (talk) 01:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  More detail required. 

message: There is a sense of the word programming (in a musical context) that refers to rather specialised activity use of a music coding language, and another sense referring to the  more mainstream activity of making sounds by using the pre-provided facilities in a piece of musical equipment. This article seems to conflate these two usages, and as such probably represents misinformation in its current state? 62.189.64.243 (talk) 09:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article confuses two different senses of the word 'programming'.
Talk:Ruffles and flourishes

message: I noticed that the two sample sound files are in a different musical key. Which one is correct?
68.55.112.31 (talk) 22:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: examples

message: The whole paragraph about the US Navy is confusing. It refers to a list that is not shown - "in this list 8 for guests with quadruple or triple ruffles and flourishes, 6 for lower ranking dignitaries". In what list?
Seeing the Army and the Navy is quoted, is there another list for the Air Force and another for the Coast Guard? If so, or if not, it should be stated for completeness. Kiltpin (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And what do "guest" and "lower ranking dignitaries" mean? --5.170.9.168 (talk) 21:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing 

message: As pertains to a claim of copyright added this to article, I have several points: 1) The article does not refer to a specific piece of music to be used for ruffles and flourishes. 2) These ruffles and flourishes were created well before the earliest date for current, unexpired copyrights in the United States, so they are in the public domain, and 3) even if they were still copyright-able, the ownership of the copyright would lie with some branch of the United State government.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.54.36.245 (talk) 00:12, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright 

message: I would like to suggest researching the Horst-Wessel-Lied as a possible example of a historical use of the ruffles and flourishes. I have no source myself, but it does seem like the practice described in this article when you hear that one recording. That beginning before the words start is not on the note sheet.--Adûnâi (talk) 21:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Horst-Wessel-Lied as a historical example
Talk:SATB

message: I wondered whether this should merge to four-part harmony, but there are 560 oncoming links to this page so that's not to be taken lightly. Andrewa (talk) 02:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thoughts 

message: This page here has interesting information on topics related to renaissance music performance; of particular interest are the sections on "Voice types" and "Pitch & transposition". From a quick read I couldn't determine exactly what should be included and what shouldn't. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  21:46, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Additional (though this might be getting out of scope for this article):  RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  21:55, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential source regarding early music 

message: For Sax SATB, the lowest saxophone voice is in my opinion the Bariton sax and not bass. Grimes2 (talk) 14:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, but they still use B, - say it more specifically if you want. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:29, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm, maybe link to Saxophone quartet? Grimes2 (talk) 14:33, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sax SATB 

message: I wonder if the ranges - which are in the individual voice parts - are helpful here. If yes, tenor should be given in the normal treble clef notation. (I tried but am too bad in lilypond.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Section removed. Grimes2 (talk) 15:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranges
Talk:Scottish Baroque music

message: #Is there any evidence that William Marshall, Niel Gow or Nathaniel Gow are regarded as Baroque?  There doesn't seem to be in their individual articles.
#Is there any evidence that Cape Breton music has origins in Scottish Baroque music, rather than Scottish traditional music?
--Deskford (talk) 23:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No 1 -- no.  The article in the New Grove classifies them (and discusses them) under the subheading "Traditional music" rather than "art music."  There were "art music" composers during the time in Scotland, such as William McGibbon, Charles McLean (they list a few there; never heard their music myself).  No 2 -- I think it would be hard to make a case that it is related to that tiny appendage of actual "Baroque" music, largely copied from elsewhere in Europe, rather than the robust and ubiquitous traditional music.  If the article were "Scottish 17th and 18th century music" than this would be a different matter -- but applying the word "baroque" to all the music of Scotland during that time is probably inappropriate.  (That's a problem we have often on Wikipedia, and has occurred elsewhere -- for example that music written in Spain or Portugal after 1600 must have been -- Baroque!) Antandrus  (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a couple of major problems with the idea of Scottish Baroque music. First, the Baroque style was associated with Catholicism and so was rather unwelcome in largely Presbyterian Scotland. Second, after the English borrowed the Stuart monarchy from 1603/4, and didn't give it back, the centre of court patronage for music disappeared from Scotland. Since many major composers in the style (Like Handel) were from the continent, they tended to operate in and around London, where the court was located and were unlikely to venture north. I agree that "Scottish 17th and 18th music" is a better title for this sort of material and would a lot more to have a go at.--SabreBD (talk) 00:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: After three years and no objections I redirected the page to Classical music in Scotland. The stuff about more traditional musicians like the Gows will probably go elsewhere.--SabreBD (talk) 12:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research
Talk:Rhyll McMaster

message: I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates and tables for short stories, poems and/or book reviews. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in AACR2 and RDA, as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. ISBNs and other persistent identifiers, where available, are commented out, but still available for reference. This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 06:12, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography
Talk:Simultaneity (music)

message: If this is a technical term in common use, it must be possible to find a better authority than a Master's thesis. If it is the word that musicologists ordinarily use when referring to multiple generalized constructs interacting in a parallel/coincident spatio-temporal commonality, they are only using it to mean that two or more things are happening at the same time, just like everyone else. Fenneck (talk) 14:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common terminology?
Talk:Song plugger

message: I don't want to overburden this article with an extraneous factoid, so I'll let another editor decide whether or not to include this:  In the 1949 movie, In the Good Old Summertime, Judy Garland, Van Johnson and Buster Keaton play music store salespeople whose responsibilities include song demonstration. Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 21:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judy Garland in "In the Good Old Summertime"
Talk:Bryan Edwards (footballer, born 1930)

message: Bryan passed away today-so when checking for his page, I discovered a right mess that I couldn't even begin to repair-could someone somewhere out there in the ether please jump on this mess and fix up his page, maybe add the death date as well? 
Grazie
69.249.125.97 (talk) 02:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Repair
Talk:Songster

message: Thank you for seeking to improve the article.  The reference you give - http://www.honkytonks.org/showpages/countryblues.htm - is interesting and I hadn't seen it before.  However, please remain civil, particularly in your edit summaries.  You claim that my previous edits "spread lies" by claiming that all songsters were African Americans.  Clearly they were not, and I have never suggested they were.  The article (before your changes) stated that the term "is most often used to denote an African American wandering musician".  That is the case, and your reference says nothing to contradict that.  Indeed, in the reference you give, every single one of the musicians mentioned was African American.  I know that there were travelling white musicians in the south, such as Jimmie Rodgers, who can be termed "songsters".  But all the evidence I have seen or had brought to my attention so far suggests that they were in the minority, and the term is most often used (not always, but most often) to describe African American musicians.  If you have evidence which contradicts that view, which I haven't seen so far, please use it to improve the article - but do not falsely accuse other editors of "lies".  Assume good faith.  Regards,  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS I have now made further edits to bridge the gap between our two sets of views.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copied from [[User talk:75.100.230.105]]
Talk:Sonorism

message: Why and where is this article confusing? How should it be improved? Hyacinth (talk) 06:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly found the opening paragraph confusing, and there are some sentences later on that sound like they were machine-translated from Polish. I've made a stab at fixing that lede, and there is now at least one cited source. See what you think—is it enough improved to warrant removing the banner?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 06:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

text: It would be helpful to be able to consult the original (Polish?) text from which this was translated. Even though I have no knowledge of Polish myself, I could still manage to work my what through single sentences like this one. With some adjustments to word order and a few other minor adjustments, this might well be a complete sentence, for example: "In fact, at this time composers came to prominence who later would have been described as 'experimental'". However, as this claim is unsourced, it is hard to know what is intended, and it probably should just be removed on grounds it is gibberish.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 04:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing

message: This article/page uses non-standard citation formatting and uses (source) instead of [citation number] with the citation in the citation section. May want to clean it up for consistency with other parts of Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:A994:9500:A53E:D4C4:39E3:4BAB (talk) 04:57, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation format
Talk:Ivyanyets

message: I have moved the article from Ivyanets to Ivyanyets as this follows WP:BELARUSIANNAMES (BGN/PCGN romanization). It does not seem that there is really a clear common name here to use "Ivenets" or "Ivyanets" instead. Mellk (talk) 16:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title
Talk:Music of Southeast Asia

message: Hi 49.145.252.128 (talk) 14:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: Different music of Cambodia 
Of southeast Asia music 120.28.252.36 (talk) 11:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mapeh
Talk:Stickfigure Records

message: I set up the albums in alphabetical order by artist.  I will eventually want to add the release dates (at very least, the year it was released). --Maninthewomb (talk) 04:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I see that this article is flagged for not being notable.  Uh, yeah, Stickfigure absolutely IS a notable presence in the Atlanta music scene, and in independent music distribution in general.  Not sure how to unflag this (I'm not a WP expert) but, well, see the references!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.215.62.245 (talk) 03:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability
Talk:Sting (musical phrase)

message: Section-intros in radio shows are also "stings", aren't they?  They often are made up of voice clips and synthesised noises (swooshes, static, etc.)  Is this correct? 81.102.140.95 (talk) 11:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only musical? 

message: This author says its "incorrectly" called a "rimshot".  Except that it is called a rimshot by most people.  http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/37221 .  I'm both a percussionist and a comedian, and I think the word "incorrectly" should be removed.  It's simply also called a rim shot.  --66.119.170.242 (talk) 20:53, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: totally agreed. since nobody has bothered to argue this after a few months, i'm taking the word out. --dan (talk) 22:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrectly? 

message: I've personally always referred to these musical phenomena as "stingers". It also seems like "bumpers" are a bit more related and might warrant more than just a reference in the See also.
https://www.mediamusicnow.co.uk/information/glossary-of-music-production-terms/what-is-an-stinger-or-bumper.aspx
https://filmmusiccentral.com/2016/01/23/film-music-101-stinger-chords/
https://forums.taxi.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-stinger-and-a-bumper-t134045.html
— SirYodaJedi (talk) 19:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative names
Talk:Street cries

message: This should be under the singular 'Street cry'. I will move it if there are no major objections. But I cant because its a horse. So Street cry (music)?--Sabrebd (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fine with that. BuddingJournalist 22:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It should be in the plural, street cries. Please see recent additions to the article for a detailed commentary on the way that the term is used in literature, painting, music and common usage. To change the name would be a big mistake. BronHiggs (talk) 09:07, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Move
Talk:Marty Bergen (baseball)

message: Almost severed his own head? Is that possible?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.67.71.73 (talk) 21:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ???

message: I screwed up sorry. The part about his kid dying had already been hammered to death though  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.230.243.1 (talk) 04:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: recent edit
Talk:Swing era

message: I understand Swing was also a dance form -- who were the main people involved in this?  Were people like Fred Astaire part of that? -- TimNelson (talk) 04:40, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dance 

message: :Any additional comments:
Some sources for the claim:
*Britannica uses "swing era" throughout
*Allmusic uses "swing era" throughout
*The Big Band Reader "swing era", except in the book title
*Jazz: The First 100 Years uses "swing era" consistently in running text
*The Oxford companion to jazz uses "swing era", except in section headings and one other instance
*A Short History of Jazz mostly "swing era", some instances of "Swing Era" in running text
Jafeluv (talk) 08:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: this was listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves for 10 days, after which someone moved it to "uncontroversial moves". It was then "marked for discussion" and relisted again. WP:SILENCE anyone? Jafeluv (talk) 05:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Which also states that silence is the weakest form of consensus, not a rousing endorsement. In cases like this, I'd suggest using the db-move template on the target page and performing the move yourself. Dekimasuよ! 00:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the suggestion! I've tagged swing era for db-move. I agree that silence doesn't really mean that much, but if a page is listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves for 10 days and no one still objects, I still think it deserves moving. By the way, I don't think the rousing endorsement here is the silence but rather my sources above :) Jafeluv (talk) 07:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion
Talk:Thaxted (tune)

message: I have amended the first paragraph of this page to correctly identify the theme being discussed.
"Main theme" is a term most often used to describe the "A" or first theme of a particular composition or movement, which this tune simply isn't.
The theme comes from the middle section, or what could easily be called the "B" section of Jupiter, from The Planets.
The outer sections are in a key signature of C major (no flats, nor sharps), and the theme being discussed is from the inner section, which is in a key signature of E-flat (three flats). EnglishHornDude (talk) 00:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Main theme" claim 

message: An encyclopaedia article ought to be information about the topic itself.  But this article about a tune seems mostly to be catalogues of:
* lots of texts, mostly non-notable, that various people, often non-notable, have written to it;
* lots of one-off, occasional or highly localised uses, again mostly non-notable.
That information is now far in excess of the real information on the actual topic itself.
In other words, it has become a dumping ground of accumulated non-notability.  Wouldn't it benefit from drastic pruning?  If so, what should be the criteria for acceptability?
My proposal is that everything should be referenced to a notable source.  For instance the use at Princess Diana's wedding would pass the text.  Close to the border, but probably acceptable, would be Martin Leckebusch's text, referenced on "hymnary.org".  But much of the rest would be pruned.
Thoughts? Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accumulated [[WP:NN|non-notability]]?
Talk:Three-minute pop song

message: I think it might be worth mentioning that this term had a certain era when it was current and most relevant - the late twentieth century. One can hardly have this article without mentioning 7" vinyl 45s. Centrepull (talk) 01:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Era of the three-minute pop song 

message: Being "original research" I'm not going to change it but this length has held basically true for hundreds of years and has nothing to do with the LP Single. For instance, the average piece in Handel's Messiah is just over 3 minutes. As is the average length of English Madrigals and etc. 
Piston touches on the subject in a round about way when he points out that composers seem to have been in agreement that to remain in one key for any length of time is aesthetically undesirable. In other words, the human ear tires of a piece of music that doesn't modulate.  Most pop songs don't so 3 minutes or so is as long as they can be.
I'd suggest the article be deleted until a credible, citable answer is found. Mad Bunny (talk) 02:34, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is article is fundamentally incorrect.