Talk:PHP/Archive 4

message: I have added some info in things I saw missing in the article, specifically PEAR, PECL, and Smarty, among others.  I also think a list of databases supported should be added.  I haven't fleshed out the paragraphs, so feel free to add to my changes. I really just wanted to get them into the article and flesh out a format for the article as a whole.  I am also thinking of moving the PHP 6 to the History section, but then talking about future releases in the history section is a bit odd.  Maybe we can add a section called Version History, or Releases separate from the history dealing with development.  Bytebear 20:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of important aspects to PHP 

message: There is no info here about why PHP 1 & 2 wasn't released? Or was it, but is there no info on that subject jet? Could someone clarify it, or add it?
Jaapvstr 09:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything before the PHP 3 section deals with PHP/FI 1 and 2. Chris Cunningham 12:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PHP 1&2 

message: Is there a good reason to make the initial letters bold in expanding initialisms? The manual of style discourages this, and I think it's insulting to the reader. Unless there's a special reason to be doing it here, I'd like to go through and clean these up. —ptk✰fgs 09:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. Chris Cunningham 10:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolding letters to expand initialisms 

message: as far as the Zend link goes. --68.210.96.31 17:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any problem. —ptk✰fgs 18:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  linkspam? 

message: The magic quotes section is too brief to be useful. At least, I couldn't make any sense of it, and I can program fairly well and understood the rest of the article. Could someone expand it a little please?
: I don't see why we need to have a separate section about configuration. This is covered in the PHP-manual, and I don't see the point of highlighting a feature like magic quotes, which are depracated, and will no longer be available from version PHP6. Jerazol 16:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magic quotes section 

message: :PHP competes with Visual Basic and C++ as the third most popular programming language behind Java and C, based on world wide availability of practitioners, courses and vendors .
Very impressive sounding, but the "TIOBE index" is basically a glorified Google hit test, and assuming the number of search engine results is really a reliable indicator of the "availability of practitioners and vendors" is fallacious and delusory.  — Miles (Talk) 02:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont know if this will help anything, but: http://www.php.net/usage.php GeorgeMoney  (talk) 04:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity contest 

message: Under Criticism it says: "Many PHP programmers output the data directly into HTML pages without first encoding the data string as HTML. This leads to Cross-site scripting security holes appearing frequently in PHP applications." For me that sound more like criticism to PHP programmers, not PHP itself. I'm not sure. Should it be deleted?
85.225.112.160 16:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People that read the page probably don't expect it to read like a list of updates; this is what we have php.net for. So if register_globals or some other issue is resolved then it's a non-issue that need not be mentioned. However register_globals and some of the more notable design faults, flaws, security holes and release goofs that have plagued PHP over the years perhaps are worthy of mention in a section within the context of its historical development to show that it's not been plain sailing for users of PHP. Moggie2002 15:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism