Talk:Jocelyn Bell Burnell

message: Someone had added JBB to this category.  The category is under consideration for deletion at , where I have added my twopennyworth ===Vernon White (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian Fellows of the Royal Society

message: This deserves some mention in the article. She has served as Clerk of London Yearly Meeting (now Britain Yearly Meeting) (dates should be available from Recording Clerk's Office, or from Documents in Advance if your local meeting's library has a complete series) but also continues to give talks on Science and Religion to various meetings within RSoF, and no doubt a whole lot more I don't know about.
--NSH001 22:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quaker service 

message: I have deleted an edit mentioning again the failure to award the Nobel Prize to Hewish's research assistant. 
THIS WAS A THIRD MENTION OF THE TOPIC. 
Surely this topic should not dominate the article . . . Bell Burnell has herself, modestly accepted that the common practice is to honour the head of a research team. If she had received early recognition, her achievements may have been less than what she has done without the Nobel honour. Perhaps we could re-focus the article on these achievements. ===Vernon White . . . Talk  08:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nobel prize

message: I also can't work out to edit the references section. Reference 32 is now a dead link but for the purposes of this page : http://ircamera.as.arizona.edu/NatSci102/NatSci102/images/extlttlgrnmn.htm would serve as a substitute . Could someone change this for me ? And is there information somewhere about how to change the references ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southof40 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  I've also switched that reference to make use of the cite book template and filled in the ISBN.  Note that it is correctly Malcolm Longair according to the book's cover on Amazon, not Longhair. Crispmuncher (talk) 05:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect reference 

message: Such information is usually present in biographical articles, in Wikipedia and elsewhere.
Why is there no sign that she had a life outside her work? There is no mention of her husband, Martin Burnell, or her son, Gavin Burnell. Dpboyer (talk) 06:18, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: References:
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/whos_who_level2/bell.html
http://www.aip.org/history/ohilist/31792.html (mentions marriage, son, separation)
http://cwp.library.ucla.edu/Phase2/Burnell,_Jocelyn_Bell@841234567.html (husband, son)
http://www.physics.ucla.eduperience /~cwp/Phase2/Burnell,_Jocelyn_Bell@841234567.html (husband, son)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.61.136 (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

text: Just noting, that famousscientists is not a WP:RS (lacking information about authorship, fact checking and editorial oversight). No opinion about the other mentioned references. GermanJoe (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage(s)?  Rrelationships?  Children? 

message: This is given as Northern Irish. I am not sure that this has any legal basis.
:: You are correct. There is no such beast as a Northern Irish national. All citizens of Northern Ireland are British citizens and carry a British passport. There is no such thing as a Northern Irish passport, so there can be no such thing as a Northern Irish citizen. The article should be corrected. ͠͠͠User:George.Hutchinson   — Preceding undated comment added 01:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: The fact that the pulsar followed astronomical time and not solar time showed that it was caused by a star or the like and not a radio broadcast on earth.
:It is suprising that Hewish argued against this obvious consideration.
::The original idea was that it was caused by an astronomer with a badly suppressed motorbike.   MidlandLinda (talk) 22:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time 

message: Being a successful women in a STEM field, there should be a section that talks about her experience and struggles she faced as a women in the field. Hearing the struggles, experiences, and success of Bell Burnell's time could be inspiring and motivating to young women interested in the field. It is also a hit of reality that there are still problems today dealing with integrating woman in the STEM fields. Dpboyer (talk) 06:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/mar/08/jocelyn-bell-burnell-100-women.html Dpboyer (talk) 06:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Being a woman in STEM 

message: I can recall an early dramatisation of her life (telling the story of the discovery of pulsars) which was made in the 1970s or 1980s iirc. Does anyone remember what this was called so that it can be included? LeapUK (talk) 08:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early dramatisation 

message: The birthplace is listed as Lurgan, C. Armagh but sources (Encyclopaedia Britannica, Sharon Bertsch McGrayne's Nobel Prize Women In Science (2002)) refer to Belfast as her birthplace.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jl sg (talk • contribs) 11:54, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. The source cited in the article (Who's Who) doesn't support Lurgan (it doesn't mention birth place at all). Other sources I've seen also indicate Belfast. I'll check all the sources I can find tomorrow, but until then I've just removed birth place completely. The whole "Background" section really needs a complete re-write, as does much of the rest of the article. --NSH001 (talk) 23:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I changed the place of birth to Belfast, as that was what all the sources said. However, I recently found another source, the Lurgan Mail,  giving the precise location where she was born, which turns out to have been Lurgan after all. In my experience, local newspapers tend to be very accurate on local topics, so I decided to use the local paper as the best source for this little factoid. I've therefore changed it back to Lurgan. It also explains how she attended "Lurgan College" at primary school age, when our article Lurgan College says it's for ages 14 to 19. --NSH001 (talk) 10:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone recently "corrected" it back to Belfast. The link in the original source went dead, so I've provided an archive link for it, and added a second source to the article text. It is very clear from these sources that the correct place of birth is Lurgan, so I've restored it, now with two sources. --NSH001 (talk) 15:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace? 

message: Not a good idea to edit Wikipedia continuously with little or no sleep! I see that  has been making rapid-fire edits, with only a few short breaks, from 09:38 on 27 January to 11:52 on 28 January.
His or her most egregious edit was to edit this page to say that JBB had won the Nobel Prize, when the article clearly says the opposite. This user then went on to remove the post-nominals, in contravention of MOS:POSTNOM. He or she also removed the section on JBB's marriage with the edit summary "trim". A BLP subject's marriage is always important, especially as, in this case, it affects the name by which she is to be referred. Note also that her marriage and name have already been discussed above on this talk page. In fact, I think the article would benefit from more information on her personal life, but I am reluctant to add it myself, as JBB is known to me personally (we used to live in the same town when her son Gavin was a small boy, although we were members of different Quaker meetings).
I have started work on a major re-vamp of this article, with a view to bringing it up to at least GA status.
Although Ceoil's work does include some useful edits, Ceoil has made additional changes which are dubious or debatable. In my opinion, any future edits he or she makes to this page need to be very carefully scrutinised. --NSH001 (talk) 14:07, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you checked that your revamp efforts won't be wasted due to possible WP:COI questions (due to editing an article about somebody you know)? (Note: I know nothing about how the rather ambiguous COI rules get interpreted in practice). Tlhslobus (talk) 06:49, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we're close enough for that to be a serious problem, and being a Quaker, I'd say "the inner light" would warn me if I'm doing anything wrong. I think the present state of this article is pretty dire – but much better than it used to be – and it badly needs improvement. --NSH001 (talk) 07:44, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm quite sure that you're not doing anything wrong (though in my experience that doesn't always guarantee that one's efforts on Wikipedia don't get wasted). But I just wanted to be sure that you were aware of the COI wording. But since you are aware and aren't worried, I'll just wish you all the best. Regards, Tlhslobus (talk) 02:16, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: I was surprised to see that the Royal Observatory, Edinburgh was missing from the list of institutions in the top sidebar. Peter R Hastings 12:21, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, she was there for 9 yrs. I've added it. --NSH001 (talk) 06:14, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Royal Observatory, Edinburgh

message: When adding the word Special, my edit description asked whether it was 2018 or 2019 as it will be presented with the 2019 ordinary prizes in November 2018. But I have since learned that their website describes it as the 2018 Special Breakthrough Prize for... Tlhslobus (talk) 15:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an article that may be useful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/07/she-made-the-discovery-but-a-man-got-the-nobel-a-half-century-later-shes-won-a-3-million-prize/?utm_term=.23ad4e6eb3ba&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 Surely we can bring this article up to GA status now that she has received this prize!AnaSoc (talk) 21:30, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification - it's 2018 Special Breakthrough Prize, not 2019 

message: This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 January 2020 and 1 May 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Aflore48.
:This was (correctly in my view) never acted on. See User talk:Schapos#Article selection. Noted here for the record. NSH001 (talk) 07:23, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment