Talk:Nana Saheb Peshwa II

message: Source Criticism
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/indiancampaigns/mutiny/cawnpore.htm, this source is named non-academic by its author, yet there are 10 footnotes leading to the site.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.212.26 (talk) 03:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

message: PLEASE DO NOT DELETE ALL THE BAD STUFF FROM NANA SAHEB'S HISTORY. It is bias to leave out important events that were th ecause of him actually leaving India! He was NOT a hero as has been stated!
--- This page is unbelievably biased.
So where is all the bibliographic evidence to back the claims?
I intend to fully edit this page to make it less "biased". If these changes are then reverted I'll have to put a neutrality tag on it. To be quite honest I can see where this guy is coming from...[Pagren 20/04/2007]
The evidence suggested that some of the British smuggled arms into their boats - this is blatently anti-british bull-crap as anyone with any knowledge about the siege of cawnpore would know that the British were ALLOWED to depart fully armed with 60 rounds per man - it was part of the terms of surrender laid out by Nana Sahib and Azmullah Khan. I wont even bother putting a citation note in there - time to give the article a thorough going over. [Pagren 22/04/2007]
Ok I have tidied up this page and removed all of the NPOV rubbish from the Indian Mutiny section and have inputted citation requests throughout the article where statements are blatently NPOV but I will give whoever put them there a chance to back up their aquisations. Implying that the HEIC (NOT IECo) was ILLEGALLY in India gives the impression there were international courts or an United Nations at the time. Please, dont insert weasel words or anti-british or pro-indian propaganda into this article. [Pagren 22/04/2007]
Well, there isnt anything mentioned about Thomson. He was one of the survivors of the Satichuar ghat massacre and said that the English fired first...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fastaal (talk • contribs) 10:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll find that information in Siege of Cawnpore. utcursch | talk 12:16, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The character of Nana Sahib is a mystery.  His reputation is largely formed from what others said about him, rather than from direct contemporary observations.  For example, the portrait on the Wikipedia website shows a disdainful or sneering person, "a proud, fierce, cruel, sensual profile"  The Confessions of Aleister Crowley. On line., but the picture is of an uncertain provenance.  
The Wikipedia portrait of Nana Sahib is attributed to "Graham", but that does not appear in art history sources.  It is described as a painting, yet it is an etching found on eBay in 2005.  What is more, there are at least two different versions of this picture.   One is shown   here, and the other is shown here:   Barbara Harlow and Mia Carter, Archives of Empire: From the East India Company to the Suez Canal, Duke University Press (2003) v. 1, p. 402..  This latter portrait has a resemblance to an imaginative picture of Rajah Kunwar Singh:        Presumably, these are the pictures which appeared in London newspapers in the years following the Kanpur massacres, but which were not of Nana Sahib.    A. N. Wilson, The Victorians, W. W. Norton (2003), p. 213.  The Illustrated London News took care to describe one picture as a 'Portrait of The Supposed Nana Sahib'    December 5, 1874.  Perceval Landon's opinion is that "The portrait of Nana Sahib, published in The Illustrated London News at the time of the Mutiny, is said to be quite unlike 
him."http://ia700505.us.archive.org/16/items/undersunimpressi00land/undersunimpressi00land.pdf  Perceval Landon, Under the Sun, New York, Doubleday, Page & Co., 1907.
Others state directly:  "No authentic portrait exists of Nana Sahib". "Portrait believed to be of Nana Sahib",  Charlecote Park.  NTPL Ref. No. 27026. National Trust.  "...there is no authentic portrait of the Nana in existence; it is even asserted that he was never painted by any artist, and photography had not extended to Upper India before 1857."  A merchant, Ajoodia Pershad, had given a portrait of himself to John Lang, an English attorney, in 1851, and the London newspapers appropriated this as a suitable image to depict Nana Sahib.    William Forbes-Mitchell, Reminiscences of the Great Mutiny, pp. 153-158.  Dr. Talmadge, reporting a conversation with an eyewitness, Joseph Lee, in Cawnpore, said "Unfortunately, there is no correct picture of Nana Sahib in existence. The pictures of him published in the books of Europe and America, and familiar to us all, are an amusing mistake."  Lee said they were actually pictures of Ajoodia Pershad, a merchant.   Dr. Talmadge, "The City of Blood", Cass City Enterprise, (December 14, 1894) page 2. Fconaway (talk) 04:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Two months have elapsed, but no one has defended the misuse of this portrait.  It should be removed from the article if no basis for using it can be adduced.Fconaway (talk) 06:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If this is all well referenced, the image should actually be included in the article (not on the infobox though) with a commentary about it being incorrect. Shyamal (talk) 11:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture is decidedly not one of Nana Sahib.  It was used by London newspapers as part of a campaign of defamation.  In my opinion, a biographical page should not repeat this: it is slander.Fconaway (talk) 16:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: To document misinformation would be well within WP:NPOV imo. Shyamal (talk) 06:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Portrait

message: Is there a translation of Prof. K. V. Belsare's Brahmachaitanya Shree Gondhavalekar Maharaj - Charitra & Vaagmay?  The interesting account, provided by an unidentified editor, could be of great value, but it requires corroboration.  Others have reported that Nana Sahib escaped to Nepal. Fconaway (talk) 22:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: K.V.Belsare's account

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message: A very famous commander of the 1857 rebellion & no image of him. I suggest if there is no image, we go ahead with a photo of his statue. I suggest we put this image. Yohannvt (talk) 11:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Image of Nana Sahib 

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message: The lede states that Nana Sahib was killed during a tiger hunt in Nepal in 1859. However, the main text of the article says that his final fate is unknown and there are records of him surviving up until 1861, as well as conflicting death dates as late as 1906. Why does only one particular account of his fate warrant being mentioned in the opening text when it's one of many conflicting versions? TRCRF22 (talk) 15:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death in lede?