Talk:Mikhail Tukhachevsky

message: I'm sure we have a page somewhere on the correct rendering of Russian names, but I can't find it. Our current article is called Mikhail Tukhachevsky, but Google says that Mikhail Tukhachevski is the correct spelling by a ratio of 10 to 1. Do we have a policy? Where is it? Adam 04:03, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - we're supposed to go with what most english speakers call them. However, as the Kiev article demonstrates, not everyone abides by the rules. I think there's going to be a referrendum sooner or later. →Raul654 04:05, Apr 21, 2004 (UTC)
Oops, actually I am wrong, the Google ratio is the other way around. But I still want to know, do we write Vasili or Vassily or Vasily? Semen or Semyen or Semyon? Konev or Koniev or Konyev or Kon'ev? The dispute over Kiev is different, it involves alternative Russian and Ukrainian spellings. Adam 04:09, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: If I'm not mistaken, one issue is that Russian passports used to (and possibly still do) carry translitterations following French usage, not English usage. Thus, Sergey is rendered as Serguei on those passports. David.Monniaux 07:14, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: Does it have any fixed transcription scheme for russian names into english? I know it has one standard one for Russian to German, but not sure if there is just one standard for english. andy 07:45, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian spellings 

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German historians have recently discovered in the archives that he was guilty: he tried to sell Ukraine to the Reich
: where is the data? 
The text of the current version is but an echo of the Nikita Khrushchev time propaganda.I have read his "scientific work." I intend to add a separate section with an alternative biography/characteristic of Tukhachevsky (without modifying the existing content). Prior to that, I would summon a discussion here. AbuAmir 19:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The purges of 1930, when the men behind theories of modern war, often falsely attributed to Tuhachevsky - such as Aleksandr Svechin, were purged by Tuhachevsky are not even mentioned in this article. Some modern historians, for example, Vadim Kozhinov, are convinced that those purges hurt the RKKA much more than the purges of the late 1930s. I would have to agree with "poor strategist" and "war criminal". With respect, Ko Soi IX 01:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Rezun's research has a reputation for being disputable. (His assertion that the Soviet Union planned to invade Germany in 1941, to name his most infamous case.) Citing him as a source for anything is dubious at best. Smershx01 (talk) 09:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Rezun's research, however inconvenient and controversial it may be, is backed by declassified documents from the Kremlin archives. Tukhachevsky was glorified in the process of de-Stalinization, and thus any criticism of him fell out of favor. It is in the interests of neutrality that Rezun's research be at least mentioned Lothar_von_Richthofen 21:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

text: About "50 000 tanks per year", it was just lie. Tukhachevsky real wanted "only" 20 000 tanks per year. 50 000 was number created by Kliment Voroshilov, Tukhachevsky military-political opponent, who fought against Tukhachevsky in military and political questions. Many Tukhachevsky requests to Stalin were caricated by Voroshilov. I will find copies of Tukhachevsky letters, where Tukhachevsky informing Stalin about his real plans. In letters Tukhachevsky agree with Stalin disagree about "Tukhachevsky plans" presented by Voroshilov. Give me few weeks. --92.62.226.31 (talk) 21:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tukhachevsky: a holy martyr genius, or a bloody-handed terrorist/hangman idiot 

message: Repression of the officer corps had nothing to do with the deep operations theory. --mrg3105mrg3105 03:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  return of the operations theory 

message: There is a section mentioning Tukh. using war gases against civilians in peacetime. There are enough online available resources with the original commands text, yet Abune preferred to mention the 1939 edition of the "official com.party history" as a source. Of course this pathetic document can't be used as a source for anything  but to demonstrate how flexible  truth  may be. And even if it was otherwise, the said "history" does NOT say a word about Tambov, Gases etc ! 
AbuAmir (talk) 10:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  references must be used with responsibility 

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 12:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 

message: Did she hang herself or was arrested? Needs editing.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.205.212.200 (talk) 01:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to book of Сергеев Фёдор Михайлович, "Тайные операции нацистской разведки, 1933-1945." — М.: Политиздат, 1991. , page 44: "Дочь‑подросток, когда достигла совершеннолетия, тоже была арестована. До реабилитации находилась в лагере. Умерла в Москве в 1982 году." which can be translated "daughter-underaged was arrested when reached adults age. Until rehabilitation was located in camp. Died in Moscow on 1982".Tõnu Samuel (talk) 04:48, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added now it to main article as best I could. Help in improving please :) Tõnu Samuel (talk) 05:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daughter's fate 

message: is NOT a source, c'mon!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.129.198 (talk) 22:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  wah...Montefiore ... 

message: The article states that "Deep Operations" theory 'fell out of favour' during 1937-39 and was only brought back after the so-called failures of the Red Army during the Winter War. That statement is rendered completely false by the preceding paragraph, which describes its successful use by Zhukov in Mongolia against Japanese forces months before the Winter War even began.
Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 21:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Deep Operations" 

message: As of this writing in summer 2010 there is a feature film about Tukhachevsky, uploaded in ten minute installments on YouTube.  The transliteration of the title is "Tukhachevsky: Conspiracy Marshal".  There are no English subtitles.  Does anyone know where I can find a description or review of this film?  It looks very interesting.  Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Sanity Inspector (talk • contribs) 02:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tukhachevsky Film? 

message: I am not sure about this, because according english subtitles, main hero(commander Kotov) talk with brigade commander Lapin. Tukhachevsky is not mentioned.--213.220.243.20 (talk) 01:30, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture? 

message: Unless, I am mistaken and the Tukhachevsky and Malinovsky family were one and the same, the photo :File:Malinovszkijcsalád.JPG is placed here in error. In Hungarian, the image name clearly indicates that the photo is of the Malinovsky family.  (talk) 03:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Malinovszkijcsalád.JPG]] 

message: :Is the person notable?
:We don't quote here, we rather paraphrase.Xx236 (talk) 12:31, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Later a long quote from  Montefiore.Xx236 (talk) 12:39, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  According to Richard M. Watt 

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message: Where did he go to school?
Gymnasium 
Russian school web site which may be the same  
Cadet Corp
RU Moscow 1st Cadet
Briticanna
US military paper 
US Military paper 2https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%95%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%86_(%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0)
https://goaravetisyan.ru/en/zagadka-mihaila-tuhachevskogo-poruchika-imperii-i-marshala/
Ru:wiki article
Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 11:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temp  - List of links - please ignore