Talk:Spiddal

message: Shurely Spiddal is a village, not a town? Or has it grown that much? And no mention of the mighty Boluisce river? Flippin' Jupiter.--shtove 00:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Recent Irish government policy regarding names in the Gaeltacht means that 'An Spidéal' is the the only official name. Spiddal is an now unofficial anglicised version of it. I recommend that the article be renamed accordingly.
:WP:IMOS. We use the English names over the Irish ones as this is the English language Wikipedia. --Kiand 23:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, well, the English name has no official standing whatsoever now, and so is redundant as Peking, Bombay or Rhodesia. It's getting moved! --MacRusgail 19:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And moved back. Your move is against long-held concensus. The article stays at "Spiddal", for that is what it is called in English. --Kiand 19:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is all fine and well, but are any of you aware that the names in the Gaeltachtai have all been changed to their Irish versions recently? This means that names in the Gaeltacht are now all Irish, even in English (Ireland being largely English speaking of course), but that names such as Dublin and Cork retain their English equivalents in official usage. --MacRusgail 17:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they've changed to the Irish version of their name being the official version. It takes a hell of a lot of zealous spin to try and claim that they've changed the English version - because they haven't. Please cease vandalising this article, as your changes, which are in violation of the Manual of Style and the convention to use English can be seen as nothing else. --Kiand 17:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thats not a "compromise" thats a "direct contravention of policy"
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcutta even though the vast majority of English speaking people in the world still call it Calcutta, it has been renamed to reflect the official name. Why can this not be done here? Spiddal DOES NOT EXIST anymore. 89.101.58.245 (talk) 10:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Excellent point, re Calcutta above. Only rarely do I hear "Spiddal" instead of "An Spidéal" and I'm the son of undereducated monoglot English speakers from the so-called "Pale" (Meath). It's just ignorance to want to change the name into English just to suit the cultural and educational ignorance of the lowest common denominator. I'm proud to be more educated (thanks to my parents) and culturally enlightened than my parents who still had ideas of inferiority to their old colonial master. Those days are over: An Spidéal is a sign of that. 109.76.214.233 (talk) 22:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename this article 

message: Previous versions of this page (dated back to December 2006) contain the following information:
"The town has 2 shops (one with a petrol station), and 4 restaurants (including a Supermac's franchise outlet). There are also a number of pubs in the town. On most weekend nights and sometimes during the week in summer time there is live traditional Irish music in the pubs. Hughes' pub in the centre of the village hosts traditional music sessions where famous musicians sometimes play. The pub An Crúiscín Lán was another music venue but it was recently transformed into a hotel by John Foye. The Boluisce, named after a local lake, is another popular pub-restaurant for seafood.
Once a year, Spiddal welcomes 25 American students spending a semester abroad at the nearby Park Lodge Hotel. The students, from the College of Saint Benedict and Saint John's University in Collegeville Township, Minnesota, spend a the autumn months studying gaelic literature and culture."
This section keeps getting deleted though.  Can someone explain to me why this information isn't pertinent or useful in the context of the page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.65.94.127 (talk) 06:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted information? 

message: The fishing in spiddal can be quite good during the summer months.From the habour wall fishing across to the river mouth can be very good for flounder and dabs,also at the head of the habour wall small ballen wrasse can be caught.Dogfish can be a pest at times from this spot but keep fishing because thornback ray are caught here regulary.From the back of the harbour there is nice rough ground with pollock caught especially in the evening on a rising tide,also caught here are nice size bass but not in large numbers.Of course for the tourist angler the mackerel shoal all around the habour and are very easy to catch!The biggest shoal of mackerel i have ever witnessed was at the back of the habour on an august evening two years ago!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.59.143 (talk) 23:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  fishing in spiddal 

message: Following the procedures in other Gaeltacht towns, I changed the first words of the article to the Irish version. Because a) It's what I've seen on the other Gaeltacht town pages and b) There's no such town as 'Spiddal' though the town name is often anglicised as such. - Dalta (talk) 14:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, makes sence. Ceoil 20:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

text: This is not an Irish government websire - we use the most common name in English WP:COMMONNAME and WP:IMOS as a rule. Djegan (talk) 22:00, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not a member of the Irish government and indeed my taxes help to ensure that government and its state continues. An Spidéal is far and away the most common name for this village. That you don't feel educationally qualified enough to accept this and feel the need to push your English Ireland plebeian agenda down our throats is your problem. Grow up. 109.76.214.233 (talk) 22:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: I removed an assertion that English is the language used in everyday speech. Previously there was an assertion that Irish was the everyday language. Neither assertion was sourced, and I can't find a reliable source myself.--A bit iffy (talk) 10:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoken language

message: An Spidéal/Spiddal is within the Gaeltacht, which means that An Spidéal is its only official name. Thus, the infobox should look like this:
official_name=an Spidéal
other_name=Spiddal
However, the current infobox has this the wrong way about. 
The article should also say that An Spidéal is the official name. I suggest we add a footnote to the infobox saying: "As this is a Gaeltacht village, the Irish An Spidéal is the only official name." This would appear in small writing.
All other Gaeltacht towns/villages uze this layout. An Spidéal is currently the only one that doesn't. As you can see, it would only affect the infobox and doesn't go agenst the IMOS. ~Asarlaí 23:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like this has been discussed periodically but never gained consensus. What is the advantage of the change you propose? --John (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The advantage is that readers will be made aware that the official name is An Spidéal. It'll also bring the article into line with other Gaeltacht articles. Note: I'm not suggesting the article be renamed. ~Asarlaí 23:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Does anyone gainstand the proposed changes? ~Asarlaí 18:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

text: It's been more than a week and nobody has replied, so I went ahed with the changes. ~Asarlaí 15:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

text: The aggressive opposition to allowing people to name their own territory is deeply problematic.  As other people have pointed out, other colonial names have been changed on Wikipedia despite still having currency in English outside the place referred to.  Why should the Gaeltachtaí be any different?  It’s utterly bizarre to see an article titled Carraroe and hard not to hear it in an RP accent.   --⚜ Moilleadóir ✍ 02:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Spidéal / Spiddal