Talk:Geography of Ireland

message: This page should not be a redirect to Geography of the Republic of Ireland, but should discuss the geography of the whole island, or at least link to pages discussing that point. That is the way the link is referenced at Ireland. --Kwekubo 23:24, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: The Severn is longer than the Shannon and the Bristol Channel is the severn estuary. I hope the people who corrected this back to the Shannon being the longest river in the British Isles realise that they may be damning generations of people in pub quizzes and other trivial pursuits! Loxley 12:02, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of the Shannon 

message: I'd like to put this on the main page, but first, could someone fix up the introduction? As per news style, It should use the term "geography of ireland" in the first sentence and describe what that geography is in general. I'd also like someone to add an extra paragraph or two to the lead. →Raul654 18:21, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
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By request, this article will be featured on the main page on March 17 (St. Patrick's day). →Raul654 07:24, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
The introduction may have been improved, but I think that the first sentence could stand a little more improvement. It currently reads The geography of Ireland reflects its situation as an island in northwest Europe in the north Atlantic Ocean. Is the phrase "...reflects its situation..." really the best we can do? I don't want to edit this right now as it is a featured article right now. I'll try to remember to do it tomorrow unless there is objection. --Amoore 08:30, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
Do the WikiRules allow the title to be split in the first sentence, such as "Ireland is an island in the North Atlantic with a geography ..."? shoaler 13:42, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that I may see the point, that the geography of Ireland reflects Ireland's situation as an "island" or somesuch. Perhaps it may be useful to try to keep this literary construction, though I'm not too sure how. --Amoore 22:10, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
Such splits can be done, but in this case bold text is not used. --Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 00:16, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Request lead section expansion

message: I've just started a disambiguation page at the formerly blank Irish Channel article, mostly for the neighborhood in my home town of New Orleans, Irish Channel, New Orleans. I fear I'm not sure what the other usage of the term "Irish Channel" in some articles refers to; if it is the Irish Sea in general, the North Channel, St. George's Channel, or what. I took a guess from context (look at "what links here" from Irish Channel) that it's the first, but correction/expansion or confirmation/denial would be very welcome. Thank you, -- Infrogmation 17:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Irish Channel"

message: Does anybody have a non-copyright geological map of Ireland? Either for a new Geology of Ireland article or at least to even up Geology of the British Isles.--Red King 19:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology of Ireland (July 2006) 

message: I don't see a reference to the fact that Ireland is the second largest island in the British Isles. Has this statement previously appeared and been deleted? Arcturus 14:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't the second largest island in the British Isles, however it is the second largest island in the archipelago containing Great Britain and Ireland. Iolar Iontach 20:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Isles 

message: I was wondering if a contour map of Ireland was available. I'd like to see what shape things will be in if the sea level rises 6m. Ghoulish, perhaps, but interesting. -- Evertype·✆ 09:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contour map? 

message: In Wikipedia I found the following values of the area of the island: 84,079 km² Geography of Ireland, 81,638 List of islands by area, 84,412 Ireland, 84,406 British Isles. Can one tell me which of them is correct, if any? 89.76.162.136 09:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area of Ireland 

message: In the Geological development section the fifth paragraph says between 400 million and 300 million years ago the landmass of Ireland was with northwestern Europe, and in the next paragraph says 250 million years ago it was at the latitude of Egypt. Was the rest of Europe at the same latitude? And had it been around the same latitude of Ireland? I understand this article is not about the formation of Europe or even the archipelago which Ireland is now a part of, but since it is referred to in the fifth paragraph, I think some statements about how its formation was similar or different from its surrounding islands throughout the section would be useful. abexy 19:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geological development confusion 

message: Should there be a section about the National parks, Conservation Sites, etc? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 05:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: National Parks?

message: "Great coral reefs formed in these waters, eventually creating the limestone that still makes up about 65 per cent of the rock mantle of the island."
Whatever the author of this meant by the word "mantle",   the meaning is a different meaning to that of the wikilinked article about the "mantle" layer of the earth's interior.  No limestone there. Eregli bob (talk) 14:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very obscure sentence 

message: "Geology of Ireland" redirects here, but it really doesn't say much about the geology. It mentions Giant's Causeway once and does not mention Fingal's Cave at all. I think that either the article should say a lot more about the geology, or a new article should be made. --The High Fin Sperm Whale (talk) 21:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology of Ireland (Aug 2009) 

message: Proposals have been put forward here to add various references to British Isles to this and other related articles. --Snowded TALK  13:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As you well know, this is controversial, there is a task group on it. Please don't jump the gun. --Red King (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  This was raised on the taskforce page over a month ago, as you can see by snowdeds post above and there was not clear opposition to the proposals for this page, concern was made over inclusion on ROI.. which weve accepted by not including it there and not including it in the infobox of Ireland. The agreement on Ireland to include BI within the geography section there also showed support for BIs inclusion on this page and possibly in the lead. Without a doubt it belongs within the text, but as its on the main Ireland page and geographic location of the geography of Ireland is rather important... it should be in the introduction. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: why in the name of dodge is this stupid colonial era language  of Britishisles liberally  pasted over every  single article to do with Ireland? Not only is it inaccurate and confusing to most people but as a term has absolutely  no official standing whatsoever. 51.37.20.61 (talk) 09:15, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

text: Because it is still about geography and not about statehood. The Banner talk 10:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

text: By all means, add'em. GoodDay (talk) 22:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks GoodDay. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I also notice that when this was originally given featured article status in 2004, it had British Isles in the introduction. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I will be making the addition tomorrow if there is no more concerns about this. BritishWatcher (talk) 21:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well i waited another 5 days despite saying id insert it days ago. I have added the wording used in the Ireland article and put it in the introduction. I was going to add it to the text of the article, but at present its rather difficult to see where it would belong. So that change will do for now. BritishWatcher (talk) 21:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed addition of British Isles 

message: Based on  and  it appears that within the past 50,000 years, Ireland has been connected to Great Britain and the European mainland rather than being an island the entire time.  This has apparently been very important to human migration and should be covered in this article and possibly also Doggerland, which is not mentioned here. -- Beland (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connections to Great Britain and European mainland 

message: Is anyone else keeping an eye on the citations? I fixed all I could find and replaced a few but Checklinks still finds a few problems. ww2censor (talk) 19:49, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead links

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message: The Cork/Kerry border runs (mostly) along the rugged spine of the Beara Peninsula on the northern side of Bantry Bay. Thus Bantry, Dunmanus, and Roaringwater Bays are in (west) Cork, rather than Kerry. Being (brand spanking) new here, I would propose that someone more experienced make the change. 
EoinValentine (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inlets 

message: I am surprized this article is a "featured" one. When I read it found I full of strong unsrouced assertions. Weeks ago a tagged many parts of the article that lack references. I hope somebody with knowledge and interests in Ireland can fix these, if this does not happen I am afraid the article must be taken to Wikipedia:Featured article review. —Lappspira (talk) 10:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you ever think that you should WP:SOFIXIT? Driveby tagging and expecting immediate results plus making threats of a WP:FAR is not the way to get cooperative improvements. BTW, I'm pretty sure there are FAs with worse problems and fewer citations. I suggest you talk to SandyGeorgia before going down that route and also seeing the articles that are currently under FAR for valid reasons to bring it there. ww2censor (talk) 15:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: On why this article might be stripped its "featured" status

message: :The section on Geology of Ireland is now a complete duplicate of the page Geology of Ireland which I noticed when I went adding citations. Either the section here should be split (properly) or the other page should be deleted. I (honestly) would go for deleting the other page as it isn't that long to keep within the page on the Geography of Ireland - but it could be considered a different topic and thus requiring its own page. Either way, one section/page should be removed as it causes potential errors in maintenance.
::Right - I've made the edit - added some text and removed the duplication. Let me know what you think as, like I say, it's not my specialist area so I'm winging it.   🍺  Antiqueight chat 00:29, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine, though I wonder if the beginning of the second paragraph requires a citation or two unless the citation further down covers it. Geology of Ireland needs a lede section to summarise the rest of the article and might even need one or two more sections. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 11:36, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Thanks. I'll double check the ref. I think it did cover it all. And look at the lede this evening    🍺  Antiqueight chat 13:01, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think the paraghraph should be ok with that citation though if anyone changes or adds to it I won't object. I added a lede to the other page. Let me know if it's ok..   🍺  Antiqueight chat 17:38, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Geology of Ireland]] (split)

message: :The section on Climate is different. The section here is a smaller version of the section on the main climate page. However the two pages contained almost identical paragraphs and were missing citations on each. Now the opening paragraph is the same (which can be undone). The page on Climate of Ireland is much longer than in Geography and I believe does need to be a whole page. However I wonder if the section here therefore should be significantly shorter as a result or should I put it back to where it was when I started?
Apologies for confusion - I didn't think of searching for split and since the pages existed I thought eliminating the duplication was the best option. I am failing to get the tag to be fancy and be more clear so I used the simpler one.I will also put the notification on the talk pages of the other 2 pages concerned   🍺  Antiqueight chat 13:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So long as a few suitable paragraphs remain in the main article that are a decent synopsis of the split off article. The summary does not need to be identical to any paragraphs in the split. I think that will work but if maybe you can  make sure that sufficient citations remain it should not be too detrimental to the article's featured article status. ww2censor (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotcha. I'll wait a while for any other comments and I'll try a solution then.   🍺  Antiqueight chat 23:12, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Climate of Ireland]]

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message: "21 of the counties in the republic are units of local government. The other six have more than one local council area" - this adds up to 27 counties, not 26. – Alensha talk 23:02, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of counties with one local government

message: I am sure we all agree that this article needs some tender loving care to say it's still an FA article. Was thinking of working on see if can take care of it before the someone list the foe demotion.--Moxy (talk) 16:14, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has quite a lot of unsourced material and also doesn't really explain the current geological aspects Bumbubookworm (talk) 11:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this article still needs some updates. I see numerous paragraphs without citations, some MOS:CURRENT issues, and I'd like to see some of the one-paragraph sections in the "Physical geography" section get an expansion, since the article has lots of room for expansion.  would either one of you be interested in fixing this up or bringing this to FAR? Z1720 (talk) 21:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I am in ....I like how Geography of Canada is setup. Moxy- 21:56, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I like Geo of Canada's set up, also. An advantage that Geo of Ireland has is that there is less geography than Canada (in terms of land mass and population) so it might be able to go into more detail about certain aspects than Canada's article. Z1720 (talk) 22:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you still interested in fixing up this article, or should it be listed at FAR? It seems like there is still unsourced material and sections that need to be updated. Z1720 (talk) 13:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: forgot about this....will look tonight. Moxy- 13:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Working on sources now. Moxy- 14:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR listing? 

message: An IP editor changed the figure in the infobox without providing any supporting evidence, so I reverted. But the existing figure is uncited too. Can anyone provide a wp:RS? --Red King (talk) 11:44, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coastline 

message: The figures given in the info box, for area, coastline, etc. Seem to be for the Republic of Ireland rather than the island of Ireland. I think this is an error as the article seems to be about the island not the state. 78.19.134.246 (talk) 22:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info box figures