Talk:Tomar (Rajput clan)

message: Note:  Project Banner with Rajasthan workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article  falls under :Category:Rajasthan or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article --  TinuCherian     (Wanna Talk?)   - 09:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Rajasthan workgroup Addition 

message: I've deleted two hate posts. AshLin (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleting hate posts

message: The list of Tomar/Tanwar personalities has many non-notable personalities. A week's notice is being provided before I vet the list using notability criteria of WP. AshLin (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notice, before excising

message: It has been found that Sarun Mata Temple is not-notable lacking online information to verify notability. I do not exactly if this is really much notable. Could someone please respond quickly here. Thanks,  Shyam (T/C) 03:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of Sarun Mata temple 

message: This article is obviously not about a single dynasty (the article talks about multiple kingdoms, various non-royal modern Tomars and describes the group as "it includes Rajputs, Gurjars and Jats of northern India"). So, I'm moving this from Tomara dynasty to Tomara (clan). utcursch | talk 05:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: Just wanted to add that Tomar is found amongst the Jat community too. Infact, this clan is considered one of the largest in western UP. Quotes below should assist this being add to the argument.
'Jat khap villages are dominated by Jats of the same clan, and Gurjar khap villages, by Gurjars of the same clan. The two major clans of Jats, namely, Tomar and Baliyan, populate the area (Muzaffarnagar, Baghpat and Meerut districts) where ...'
Sociological bulletin, Volume 53, Indian Sociological Society., 2004
(link: books.google.co.uk/books?ei=8DAqUNm9I6if0QXGo4HAAg&id=gIXZAAAAMAAJ&q=tomar#search_anchor)
'The third, the Salaklain khap of the Tomar Jats, held the notional chaurasi or eighty-four villages known as the Chaurasi Des'
The peasant armed: the Indian revolt of 1857, Eric Stokes, Christopher Alan Bayly
(link: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=I0FuAAAAMAAJ&q=tomar#search_anchor)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JagNatha (talk • contribs) 11:21, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomar as a Jat clan 

message: Vikramaditya is the prince of Pramara dynasty not Tomara dynasty. Please check your sources. And dont use word like Brahminical religion. That is a bit downsense. You can say Hinduism in your sense.
14.99.182.28 (talk) 10:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cut the section for now and dumped it below. I've not even bothered checking the British Raj sources that were used, precisely because they are Raj sources. If anyone wants to contest then they'll have to find something more recent to support the claim and to support the peacockery. The content read:
==Vikramaditya==
Vikramaditya, king of Ujjain in Malwa, drove out Scythian invaders in 56 BC. The Vikram Samrat calendar was founded in 57 BC to honor his achievements. He was a liberal ruler, a patron of learning, encouraged art. He was a follower of the Brahmanical religion, a worshipper of Siva and Vishnu. He is claimed to be a prince of the Tomara dynasty.Edward Balfour, The cyclopædia of India and of eastern and southern Asia, Volume 3, page 1015Essays on Indian Antiquities, Historic, Numismatic, and Palæographic, of the Late James Prinsep by James Prinsep, Edward Thomas, Henry Thoby Prinsep, Publ. J.Murray, 1858, p157 - Sitush (talk) 11:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

text: No offence taken. That is the consensus & I think I was one of the first to suggest this was the case across a wide range of caste articles. That I am a Brit does not mean I am incapable of being neutral. - Sitush (talk) 15:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vikramaditya-Tomara? 

message: Although the of Gird is situated in Madhya Pradesh, it has been historically considered a part of North India and not Central India so I believe it should be changed to North India.Suijai (talk) 18:08, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is in Madhya Pradesh then we should stick with that. The source doesn't mention the Gird region by name and anyone who doesn't know where MP is can always click on the link. - Sitush (talk) 18:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Madhya Pradesh 

message: What was the need to remove Tyagi's source about the distribution of Tomars in North India? It is well known that Tomars inhabit those areas. I think Sitush is allowing his own subjective bias to ruin this article. If he has such great sources then he should add his own information himself.Suijai (talk) 14:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Find another source, please. See User:Sitush/Common#Gyan. - Sitush (talk) 14:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I have no agenda bar that of complying with Wikipedia's policies. If things are well-known then it should be possible to provide reliable sources, as you have now done for some stuff. - Sitush (talk) 14:56, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Tyagi source 

message: 59.91.180.32 (talk) 11:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Talk! 13:10, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2015 

message: Tomar (also called/spelled Tomara, Tomer, Tanwar, Toor and Taur) is a clan, some members of which ruled parts of North India at different times. People belonging to the Tomara clan are found among the Rajputs,[1] Ahir,[11] Jats[2] and Gurjars[3] of northern India. 47.9.78.205 (talk) 08:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Seagull123  Φ  09:31, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2020 

message: Several typos and historically inaccurate facts 2409:4063:6C07:3CBA:BB16:2E0A:5142:2BEF (talk) 04:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 04:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2021 

message: Tomar is a huge clan. Tomars are also Jats. Tomars in harayan and the 84 villages of Tomars in West UP are of Jat Tomar. But they are written as rajput here which is leading to misinformation hence i ask you people to edit it. Manu tomar99 (talk) 16:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2022 

message: Like khutail,shira,toor,tanwar 87.196.80.192 (talk) 21:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  More surnames (gotras) raised from tomar gotra 

message: 117.198.64.165 (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2023 

message: Mohitnagar96 (talk) 10:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't mention any caste in  those clans which are creating conflict between 2 or 3 castes so take responsible action on every page related to these types of information Mohitnagar96 (talk) 10:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 10:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: please do not mention any caste because tomar is a surname which is used by many castes in india and it creates conflict between communities did you understand what I am trying to say. Mohitnagar96 (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 March 2024