Talk:Alla Pugacheva

message: No references.  Unencyclopediac lists.  This page needs to be worked on.  I don't know how to flag it though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.78.63.84 (talk) 02:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No References

message: I deleted the following statement: Alla's song "Pozovi menja s soboy" is the same as "Tajna otrovna" by Vlado Janevski. The problem with this statement is that it should have been written the other way round (Vlado Janevski's song "Tajna otrovna" is the same as Alla's song "Pozovi menja s soboy") and belong to a wiki article about Vlado Janevski. "Tajna otrovna" was released in 2002, while "Pozovi menja s soboy" was written no later than in 1991 by Tatiana Snezhina. Here is the link http://guriev.lenin.ru/5.shtml to an article in Russian about Tatiana Snezhina and "Pozovi menja s soboy". The article was written in 1997.Ri hwa won 20:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes facts are so clear that they almost seem silly to talk about, don't they?  The album "Da!", on which the song "Pozovi menya s soboi" appears, was issued in 1997... a full five years before the "copy". :) --Ericdn (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tajna otrovna

message: Extremely POV statements. Can someone fix these?  Floaterfluss  (talk) (contribs)   16:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: The table in the discography section was very poorly done.  A lot of extra rows with the same LP cover, but no data.  Also, the Soviet record firm is usually written as "Melodiya", regardless of language.  "Melodie" is only a French translation of the Russian word.  Personally, I think a table would be nice, instead of the list that we have now on the page, but it would need to be done better than today's addition. Ericdn 14:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography table

message: It didn't make any sense to have the article titled "Pugacheva" then to open with "Pugachova" and say sometimes anglicized as "Pugacheva" so I reversed it.  Pugacheva is clearly the correct choice as it is more commonly used and her own website spells it that way (even tho the "correct" transliteration is "Pugachyova" this falls under "use conventional names").  I also removed the attempts at showing the phonetical pronunciation - if that's done it should use IPA but unfortunately I don't know how to do that. Gr8white (talk) 22:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: "Pugacheva is better than Rotaru", "Rotaru is better than Pugacheva"... this "rivalry" is maddening enough to read about in the press, but starting editing wars on Wikipedia to try to see who can "scream the loudest" is not a good idea.  I just undid a revision that said that Pugacheva "has not surpassed" Rotaru's popularity... certainly a personal opinion, rather than fact.  Likewise, one can argue that it's a personal opinion that Pugacheva's popularity is higher.  Therefore, I took the neutral way out and simply removed all references to Rotaru in this article, period.  This way, Pugacheva's popularity can be judged solely on her record sales and performances information.
No edit wars, please! --Ericdn (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted no facts, only a personal opinion.  If legitimate facts can be presented that prove that one singer is more popular than another, then they should remain in the article.  Otherwise, it's just one person's word over another's, and that shouldn't remain in the article. --Ericdn (talk) 07:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: First of all, fan sites can not be considered to be "verifiable information" if they simply offer the personal opinion of the author and/or contributors.  Second, if we are going to keep going back and forth undoing each other's edits, that constitutes an edit war, and I will refer this article to the appropriate Wikipedia editors for them to take the appropriate action. --Ericdn (talk) 07:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm not going to be the one to stop this war; this situation is being reported to the appropriate Wikipedia editors.  They'll take their own measures to stop it. --Ericdn (talk) 05:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

text: That's exactly what I was doing!  I removed every instance of Sofia Rotaru, as Pugacheva's career can very adequately be described without her.  However, every time I remove it, it's put right back again, as if the two singers' careers are permanently joined together.  Go figure... --Ericdn (talk) 12:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pugacheva vs. Rotaru

message: Great photo of Pugachova from Berlin in 1976!  Thanks for posting it!  --Ericdn (talk) 15:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Berlin photo, 1976 (Attn: Rybak)

message: http://www.shoowbiz.ru/showbiznews/4578.html
17 Апреля 2009, в интервью "Брак Пугачевой разрушил КГБ" «Экспресс газете», Александр Стефанович, снял завесу слухов про фильм «Рецитал» и отсутствие связи с фильмом «Душа» в 1980 году.  В один из первых съемочных дней фильма Рецитал Алла Пугачева появилась в вычурном наряде, не соответствующем ее образу в фильме, и пожелала в таком виде сниматься. После предложения Стефановича переодеться Алла Пуагчева вцепилась в асситентку и разорвала на ней кожаное пальто. Вся группа приехала отказалась с ней работать. Фильм «Рецитал» был закрыт, а через несколько месяцев Бородянский и Стефанович написали новый сценарий, был снят фильм «Душа» с Софией Ротару в главной роли. Последовал развод Стефановича с Пугачевой. 
Про Пугачеву Стефанович ответил на вопрос: "А как вам удавалось морочить голову советской прессе? 
" - Это был кураж. Помню, как-то звонят к нам в квартиру из «Литгазеты». Там готовили материал к 8 Марта и попросили какую-нибудь новость об Алле, буквально пару строчек. Я с ходу говорю: «Записывайте! Тираж ее пластинок достиг ста миллионов экземпляров!!! (На самом деле он и до миллиона тогда далеко не дотягивал.) А еще - японская газета «Асахи» назвала Аллу Пугачеву, наряду с Юрием Гагариным, величайшей личностью XX века». Потом эту «залепуху» перепечатали многие газеты. 
Или, скажем, будущему главному редактору «Огонька» Льву Гущину я дал от имени Аллы огромное интервью на три «подвала» для «Комсомолки», где она «признавалась в любви» к Мандельштаму и Цветаевой, рассуждала о французском кино, японской поэзии и т.д. Интервью имело эффект разорвавшейся бомбы. На советской эстраде появилась певица-интеллектуалка! Эта статья потом ходила по рукам, сброшюрованная в маленькую книжку.
Про Ротару Стефанович сказал следующее:  "Видел Соню несколько дней назад. Она меня познакомила со своей внучкой. Ротару тоже недавно отметила юбилей, но как выглядит и как поет! Публика ломится на ее концерты. И без всяких прощальных туров." 789kirkimir (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The proposed text contains no encyclopaedic facts. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 12:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Добавьте пожалуйста это:

message: Information in this section is totally unverifiable from the cited reference so I removed it and put a  there, if this section cannot be improved, I will remove this section per WP:BLP. Grenouille vert (talk) 00:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Personality

message: Why is it more awkward than MBE after the first mention of the members of the Beatles or Grand Officer of Italian Republic after the first mention of Mina? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: None of the examples you give are as awkward as this one was.  It isn't the inclusion of the honorific title itself that makes it awkward, it's how it was inserted into a sentence that flowed well prior to the insertion.  To my mind it is sufficient to mention the award where it is, but if you think it's necessary to include it with her name the sentence should be reworked. Gr8white (talk) 16:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Why was People's Artist title removed?

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message: *"Alla Pugacheva, for example, sold over 150 million records, not exclusively in the Soviet Union" — Let's Put the Future Behind Us: A Novel pag. 65 by Jack Womack (2007)
*"Nana Mouskouri (Greece), and Alla Pugacheva (Russia) have all, also, sold over one hundred million records" — How Music Dies (or Lives) by Ian Brennan (2006)
*"She has sold more than 100 million records in the past twenty years and has been called not just the most popular singer in Russia" — Culture and Customs of Russia by Sydney Schultze (2000)
*"[...] from the Soviet Union who has reportedly sold 150 million records , Alla Pugacheva" — Surviving Together issues: 14-16 pag. 78 (1988)
*"Alla Pugacheva , has sold over 150 million records and tapes , at home and abroad , putting her in the same commercial super league as Elvis Presley , The Beatles and Michael Jackson" — Music of the World by Alan Blackwood (1991)
*"[...] discs with a total pressing of over 100 million records. Besides, she has played the main roles in two feature films" — Sputnik pag. 88 (1981)
*"For example , Alla Pugacheva , Russia ' s leading pop star beginning in the mid - 1970s , has sold more than 100 million records and is “ often likened to Barbra Streisand , Liza Minnelli , or ( Bette ) Midler . ”" — The Barbra Streisand Companion pag. 148 by Linda Pohly (2000)
*"Pugacheva holds the title of People's Artist of the RSFSR and has sold some 200 million records in the USSR." —  Radio Liberty Research Bulletin issues: 3448-3456 pag. 9 (1987)
*"but in the Soviet Union Pugacheva has sold more than 100 million record" — The Bulletin vol. 108 pag. 93 (1986)
*"Sushkov If we assess an entertainer ' s popularity by the reaction of the audience we can say that Alla Pugacheva has long broken all records . The number of her disks exceed 100 million" — The Daily Review vol. 27 (1981)
*"Pugacheva has been a superstar in the world of Soviet music for almost three decades, having sold more than 200 million records." — Russia: A Reference Guide from the Renaissance to the Present by Mauricio Borrero (2009)
*"Pugacheva was Intervision's Abba: she is reputed to have sold 250 million records in her career" — Eurovision!: by Chris West (2017)
--Apoxyomenus (talk) 04:59, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales