Talk:Avian influenza

message: You should check out www.pandemicflu.gov or avianflu.gov and you will see that there is a history section of great pandemics..Yes! even here in the United States. The Influenza Pandemic occurred in three waves in the United States throughout 1918 and 1919. just do the research amigo and cnn wasn't around in 1918 or 1919  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.238.26 (talk) 21:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: someone has put that the United States has had cases reported on the table in the middle of the article, that is untrue, i did some research when i saw it, there are no cases in the US, and it would have made national news if it had, i even went to the cnn archives, nothing, could someone correct that? im inexperienced and don't want to mess the whole thing up.
:I believe you are refering to this act of vandalism. Thanks for pointing it out, even tho it was at H5N1 and not here at Avian flu. WAS 4.250 20:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: United States

message: Shouldn't this be merged with the page for Influenzavirus A?  I see that Bird flu redirects to Avian flu, while Avian influenza redirects to Influenzavirus A. - unsigned
:Thanks. That was an oversight, that I've now corrected. WAS 4.250 01:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now, Asian bird flu redirects to H5N1, which seems appropriate to me. But Bird Flu, Bird-flu, Avian Flu, Bird influenza, Chicken flu, Birdflu, Avian bird flu, Avian flu virus redirects to Influenzavirus A. While Bird flu and Avian influenza, redirects to this article, Avian flu. Can we get a consensus on what goes where? --Dodo bird 08:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. That was an oversight, that I've now corrected. They now all (except asian bird flu) point to this article. I also fixed the flu template link so the avian flu link goes here. And I fixed the H5N1 template's influenzavirus A link so it says that is what it is (before it said avian flu). Thanks, again. WAS 4.250 12:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirects

message: In 1997 Avain Flu was speaded around Hong Kong...over 5.5 million people had die.
*That's actually pretty funny. --67.171.78.155 21:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No it isn't.  It's the standard form of vandalism that occurs thousands of times on Wikipedia pages every day.  Reverting generic, everyday vandalism like this does not really require a comment on the talk page. Xezlec (talk) 19:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Which is more clear? A or B? Linked or not linked? Or C or D (the same choice, but without italics).
===A, not linked===
So "avian flu", "bird flu", "avian influenza", and "bird influenza" all mean the same thing; but are all used to mean these very different things:
*the influenza A viruses
*the flu acquired from the influenza A viruses
*influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds  
*flu from influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds (the technically correct meaning)
*the H5N1 strain of the influenza A virus 
*the H5N1 flu
*the global spread of H5N1.
===B, linked===
So "avian flu", "bird flu", "avian influenza", and "bird influenza" all mean the same thing; but are all used to mean these very different things:
*the influenza A viruses
*the flu acquired from the influenza A viruses
*influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds  
*flu from influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds (the technically correct meaning)
* the H5N1 strain of the influenza A virus 
* the H5N1 flu
* the global spread of H5N1.
===C, not linked, no italics===
So "avian flu", "bird flu", "avian influenza", and "bird influenza" all mean the same thing; but are all used to mean these very different things:
*the influenza A viruses
*the flu acquired from the influenza A viruses
*influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds
*flu from influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds (the technically correct meaning)
*the H5N1 strain of the influenza A virus 
*the H5N1 flu
*the global spread of H5N1.
===D, linked, no italics===
So "avian flu", "bird flu", "avian influenza", and "bird influenza" all mean the same thing; but are all used to mean these very different things:
*the influenza A viruses
*the flu acquired from the influenza A viruses
*influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds  
*flu from influenza A viruses which are adapted to birds (the technically correct meaning)
* the H5N1 strain of the influenza A virus 
* the H5N1 flu
* the global spread of H5N1.
===Votes and comments go here===
*I like all four equally. WAS 4.250 17:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not linked, because most of the links lead to the same page. I prefer no italics. Njál 18:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: *I like all four equally. WAS 4.250 17:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not linked, because most of the links lead to the same page. I prefer no italics. Njál 18:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Votes and comments go here

message: Why is the page located at 'Avian flu'? In the UK and ROI it's known as 'bird flu.' If 'avian flu' is more common in the US/Canada/Australia/S. Africa etc. could this be noted? Njál 18:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bird flu or Avian flu

message: As this article's marked as a current event, I think it would benefit from a section on why everyone's panicking about it, or a summary with a 'see H5N1 for more in-depth treatment' link, just to make it clear where that information is. Njál 18:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current event

message: Avian flu (also known as bird flu or avian influenza) virus refers to a subset of Orthomyxoviridae that creates irrational behaviour in females, making them a pain in the arse
Now corrected.
yet another Matt 10:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pain in the A***? 

message: Shouldn't the picture be of a bird quarantine zone or something? The picture is more pediatriciatic (sp?) rather than bird flu ish. - unsigned
:The picture is for the template (box) FLU; not just this one article. WAS 4.250 18:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, so next order of business - someone find a better image Jackpot Den 01:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was originally looking for a picture of a sneeze; but this was the best picture I could find. There is also discussion and two alternative suggestions at the talk page of the template; which is where the discussion for an alternative should be, should someone find one. Also at Template:Flu you can click on the "What links here" link in the toolbox box at the far left to see what articles the image will be appearing in. WAS 4.250 02:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was also wondering why an article on Avian Flu has a picture of a baby on it. In fact that baby picture is not good even for generic flu articles any more than a picture of vomit is. CGameProgrammer 20:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inapprorpriate image? 

message: <<"Flu" is short for "influenza". The two words mean exactly the same thing. No difference in meaning, only a difference in spelling and pronunciation.>>
Are these actually two words? Flu is an abbreviation for influenza, albeit from from the 19th C. Should it be changed to 
<<The term "Flu" is an abbreviation of the term "influenza", thus their meanings are identical. No difference in meaning, only a difference in spelling and pronunciation.>> or something similar
Tsop 04:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically it should read "'Flu" with the apostophe, but no one really cares about that anymore.  In the lab where I work, 'Flu is usually used to refer to the disease as it manifests himself ("He's down with the 'Flu," "Those birds have the 'Flu," etc.) and Influenza is used to talk about the microscopic virion itself.  It's really up between the sticklers and the conformists. - not signed
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Under subtypes: H15 	N8 	A/duck/Australia/341/83(H15N4). This must be wrong is it N4 or N8? 90.224.188.19 (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks. I deleted it as self contradictory. If I was being paid for this, I might actually look at the source and see what is what. WAS 4.250 (talk) 23:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this correct?

message: Whoever is adding the ugly purple box to the article, please don't.  It is redundant - anyone using Wikipedia will know how to click links to other articles.  It is also horrendously unusable - black text on purple background is just horrific. At the very least, a better worded, tastefully coloured box is needed, 'though I'd prefer none at all. — ceejayoz talk 15:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was also way too self referential. You'd almost think whoever added it was fed up with people whining about a lack of information on "Avian flu" in spite of huge amounts on it in the most relevant aricles. And the color! Sheesh. Must be color-blind. WAS 4.250 16:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, you (WAS) reverted everything and re-added that box, though I guess that was probably by accident. --AySz88^-^ 06:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted from your version and changed the box to something even more out-of-place; and when I came to my senses and came back to delete the box, it had already been deleted, so I made the above comments making fun of myself. About the color - I am color-blind. WAS 4.250 11:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I was about to say, and now I'm gonna go back and revert you again ...  but I went back to read your latest version, and it's an improvement. So, thanks for helping, and please stick around and help some more. For example, me and another user are squaring off at Talk:Influenza concerning the use of quotes; come add your views, please. I'll provide sources for your Doubting Thomas fact request; but its a summary and I know of no single quote covering every detail of my marvelous summary so I'll provide what immediatly comes to mind  - a couple of on line books, a source already in the article and a really great breakdown of H5N1's evolution. If you have further accuracy concerns, please don't hesitate to ask. I only wish someone had questioned something I had misunderstood about the H5N1 viral envelope before a virologist did so in print WAS 4.250 11:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry; I was confused by your post and I didn't realize you were the person that made that box.  The "citation needed" tag was because I wasn't 100% sure whether "which includes all subtypes of Influenza A viruses" really meant "all subtypes of Influenza A viruses contain such viruses adapted to birds", and wanted to find a source explaining the nuaunces to make sure it was right (but didn't have time to do it right then).  I didn't mean that I really doubted whether the statement was factual or not.  --AySz88^-^ 21:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  purple box 

message: Three paragraphs have been inserted, headed "Much Ado about Nothing' and filled with unsubstantated meanderings by "Iqbal Latif". This seems unencyclopedic. --Wetman 06:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We call that vandalism. — ceejayoz talk 16:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: An essay?

message: As mentioned (a while) before, this article needs more about the actual flu in birds, especially things like symptoms and treatment. --AySz88\^-^ 13:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But that's specific to H5N1, not avian flu in general. --AySz88\^-^ 02:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: Just read... "out of the ballpark"?, "from this flock, to this flock, to that flock, until every last domesticated bird is slaughtered". Reading this, it sounds like a drama-ridden panic button... or just a genocide against the avian race. Seriously, this needs to be rephrased, reworded, and made more relevant to what the flu is, rather than a dramatic representation of the crisis... keep it seperate.  - unsigned
:I apologize. I've read every single source in every one of of our flu and H5N1 articles and I do my best to keep the articles accurate. But good writing will have to come from others though because what you see is the best I know how to do. Cheers. WAS 4.250 00:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page needs severe cleanup, very unprofessional and heavy use of dramatic phrases / dramatic layout

message: "The FluChip successfully distinguished among 72 influenza strains--including the H5N1 avian influenza strain--in less than 12 hours."69.6.162.160 03:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Flu research could use a section on this sort of thing. WAS 4.250 03:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted it in the Flu research talk section, but it is not visible for various possible reasons.69.6.162.160 13:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not seeing posted changes is usually about needing to refresh some buffer. I saw it and responded there. WAS 4.250 15:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick diagnosis of flu strains possible with new microchip test 

message: Bird Flu will Kill us all in 2010
    Main articles: H5N1 and H5N1 flu
As of 2006, "avian flu" is being commonly used to refer to infection from a particular subtype of Influenza A virus, H5N1, which can cause severe illness in humans who are infected. Currently, this strain is transmitted by contact with infected birds, humans, and it is now considered to be airborne-prone virus. COmputer studies show that at the current rate of contamination from the virus, 80% of the Earth will be affected by 2010 and that the whole population will be wiped out in the following year.
What the hell? No sources cited. No nothing. looks like dramatic vandalism.
--P3on 22:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bird flu will kill us all" 

message: I've heard of an abortive Soviet experiment to bread a super virulent form of botulism by the careful selecting of bacteria, irradiation and laboratory modification, back in the 1970's. Could Vladamir Putin have finally pulled it off with Swine and bird flu?! Or was it just the Soviets or did NATO also spill some of it's own in Iraq and Afghanistanas well?----86.29.243.221 (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bio-weapons

message: Avian flu is plagerized in the toronto daily news article Avian Flu Explained published today in its introduction where it says "Avian flu first infected humans in the 1990s, and since then H5N1 has evolved into a flu virus strain that inflects more species than any previously known flu virus strain, is deadlier than any previously known flu virus strain. Avian flu continues to evolve becoming both more widespread and more deadly causing the world's number one expert on avian flu to published an article titled "The world is teetering on the edge of a pandemic that could kill a large fraction of the human population" in American Scientist magazine." It uses key phrases I wrote and have not seen elsewhere in exactly those words. WAS 4.250 20:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "H5N1 has evolved into a flu virus strain that inflects more species than any previously known flu virus strain, is deadlier than any previously known flu virus strain, and continues to evolve becoming both more widespread and more deadly causing the world's number one expert on avian flu to published an article titled "The world is teetering on the edge of a pandemic that could kill a large fraction of the human population" in American Scientist."
"to published" ? Whoops. Gotta fix that. WAS 4.250 07:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Avian flu

message: I havn't heard much of UN post-avian recovery efforts. Am I missing something???
Pretend we do rid a large area of the strain and everything is fine and dandy.
Are we forgetting that avian influenza is a compulsively mutating virus??
When land has been rid of cattle, poultry, etc.
The virus is still in the soil. A virus needs a host to survive. However, the strain will
survive on its own for a while. If cattle are thrown back into the land just to get infected 
again, why the recovery effort?
Realizing that the virus will survive temporarily within the soil, I think a temporary arrest of that land should be taken. Until the soil is completely clean, recovery measures
should not be taken.
My question is why am I not hearing about recovery measures???
I know preventative measures are important as well but I believe they are equally important.
Just a thought. :) Lolahothot 02:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bird flu survives forever in very cold areas. Flu viruses mutate every time they reproduce. H5N1 is not going away. No one knows how much damage it will do to human and nonhuman populations. No onw knows what it will mutate into. See flu research and H5N1 clinical trials for action governments are taking. See Social effects of H5N1 and flu pandemic for related information. WAS 4.250 23:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UN efforts and H5N1 

message: I've done a rather cumbersome rollback to restore a lot of MOS issues I had with this article earlier.
Removal of templates is considered rude without discussion as to why. Please bring any concerns as to why this article doesn't need significant editing to "cleanup", particularly to modify the tone of the article here.
Additionally I had to clean up the external link section again, which in its extended form is almost as long as the article. Wikipedia should not be linking to every single possible available flu resource. That's just ridiculous I originally culled it to the best and foremost avian flu resources available.
I also had to re-fix the in-text references. It is very innapropriate to appraise wikipedia's references in-text. Comments such as 
Are very innapropriate. It is very POV (not to mention, unsubstantiated) to call it "excellent", slightly less so to point out "free" (its promotional), and it's totally unnecessary to point out its a "medical textbook" and its content. Please try and follow a standardised referencing system such as Harvard, or wikipedia's Citation templates.
And lastly I had to remove three sections that have already been discussed as unencyclopedic in content on the basis of several parts of WP:NOT. This has been discussed before in several locations on wikipedia.--ZayZayEM 23:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You prefer your version. I prefer mine. Can we compromise? WAS 4.250 14:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll compromise on inclusion of H5N1 graph, but not much else. Especially not - reference wording, linkspamming or the three unencyclopedic sections (is their anything else?). As I've mentioned to you the "no one" knows section may have a place as a much simplified version from the single source, or an expanded section that combines further sources - but even then, it likely belongs only on H5N1 related pages, not generic avian flu.--ZayZayEM 02:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where can we put the "no one knows" (aka "Unanswered questions") subsection? (Note the new added reference. Please read it.)  WAS 4.250 04:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Never mind. I add it to H5N1. WAS 4.250 05:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference wording 

message: I removed these tags.  This article attempts to describe a complicated concept and is a heck of a lot better than many articles in wikipedia. Regards—G716 <T·C> 02:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup and tone tags 

message: I think a picture might be more suitable for the H5N1 section.
A diagram such as that available at Transmission_and_infection_of_H5N1#Transmission or H5N1#Infectivity.
Or alternatively the TEM micrograph of the virus 
What do you guys think?--ZayZayEM (talk) 03:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  H5N1 picture 

message: I've had a look through the discussions and can't really find a consensus that the headers were needed.
I think a dablink to H5N1 may be needed, but it still needs to be neutrally/encyclopedically worded.
This article does include the influenzainfobox down the bottom which links to all those other articles on transmission and infection.
Wikipedia does need to be navigatable, but it's also not our responsibility to deal with morons.--ZayZayEM (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People kept adding stuff to this article that was already in other articles or else if added should go elsewhere. Some recent additions to this article would be better at the spread of H5N1 article for example (that's where we tried to gently nudge all the "today's news" type additions). WAS 4.250 (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dablink header 

message: As mentioned above in some discussions, a top priority for this article should be how this disease affects birds and poultry, as it is primarily avian disease.
Do chickens sneeze?--ZayZayEM (talk) 00:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WAS 4.250 (talk) 03:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was there some obscure point to that dump of information?--ZayZayEM (talk) 02:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay is there a reason why on the talk page, rather than expanding the article?--ZayZayEM (talk) 04:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I have such a freaking personality conflict with you that I don't know what else to do. From my point of view, you ask for a glass of water and I point you to a well with drinkable water and you disdainfully suggest that I should have drawn the water for you. You asked a question. I responded to the question with content that I had written on other articles that you could have read if you were interested in learning instead of being interested in telling other people what to do. As you can see I am angry. Please improve this article as you see fit. I have provided data and sources. I will not jump through your hoops and add it to the article only to have you sit in judgement and evaluate it and tell me how to re-edit it. This is the data. Write it your DAMN self. WAS 4.250 (talk) 07:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veterinary aspects 

message: The reference to human cases seems to be different then what is reported here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mortality_from_H5N1
The article has: "The Avian Flu claimed at least 200 humans in Indonesia, Vietnam, Laos, Romania, China, Turkey and Russia."
I think it should be updated to: "The Avian Flu claimed at least 200 humans in Indonesia, Vietnam, Egypt, PR China, Thailand, Cambodia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iraq, Laos, Nigeria, Pakistan."
As far as I know there have been no human deaths in Romania, which is consistent with the above Wikipedia page and the WHO report: http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/country/cases_table_2009_01_07/en/index.html
Thanks. Otodoran (talk) 20:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Go by original sources, not other wiki pages. Wiki pages are unreliable. IF sources can be updated go ahead.--ZayZayEM (talk) 02:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human cases 

message: do people eat them...???--222.67.216.127 (talk) 04:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  If the birds are the major sources of the flue, why.... 

message: The references section in this article has become a dumping ground for any research paper connected with the subject. Recent edits today show it is being used for journal SPAM. That's not what WP's References section is for and such papers tend to fail our external links policy too. I've removed it to here in case there is anything worth salvaging. If there is, please provide inline citations to where the references was used as a source. Colin°Talk 18:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misuse of the References section 

message: Experts Look Beyond Birds in Investigation of Flu Strain in China, New York Times, JANE PERLEZ, April 18, 2013.
"  .  .  .  A Chinese expert on the disease, Feng Zijian, the director of the health emergency center at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said Wednesday that an estimated 40 percent of people infected with the virus said they never had contact with poultry.  .  .  "
"  .  .  .  The news agency [China’s state-run news agency, Xinhua] said that 47,801 samples had been collected from 1,000 poultry markets, habitats and farms from across China, and that agricultural authorities said that 39 tested positive for H7N9.  .  .  "
"  .  .  .  Early suspicions that pigs might be the carrier of the virus have not been confirmed,  .  .  "
"  .  .  .  The Chinese authorities had informed the W.H.O. about three families in Shanghai where more than one person was infected with the virus, Mr. Hartl said.  .  .  "
::posted by Cool Nerd (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: posted by Cool Nerd (talk) 01:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  With new H7N9, looking for new animal vectors besides birds 

message: Deadly Bird Flu Spreading in China, Unclear How, ABC News, Katie Moisse, April 18, 2013.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/bird-flu-spreads-china-unclear/story?id=18987118
"Health officials in China are scrambling to uncover how multiple members of three families in Shanghai and a young boy and girl from neighboring homes in Beijing became infected with a new strain of bird flu.  .  .  "
::posted by Cool Nerd (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: posted by Cool Nerd (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  new H7N9, and possibility of human-to-human transmission? 

message: Daily H7N9 Avian Influenza virus situation update [published by Australian Commonwealth Department for Health and Ageing, no cases of H7N9 detected in Australia]
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/9756A621D858A625CA257B47002EC3A0/$File/current-summary-23042013.pdf
::posted by Cool Nerd (talk) 23:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And maybe both are true, plus a whole lot more.  In fact, that is probably the case.  Cool Nerd (talk) 23:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: other links regarding H7N9

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message: Human infection with avian influenza A(H7N9) virus – China, WHO, Disease outbreak news, 17 January 2017. 
'  .  .  On 9 January 2017, 106 human cases of infection with avian influenza A(H7N9) were reported from the NHFPC [National Health and Family Planning Commission of China]. The onset dates ranged from 22 November 2016 to 29 December 2016. Of these 106 cases, 36 are female. The median age is 54 years (age range among the cases is 23 to 91 years old). The cases are reported from Jiangsu (52), Zhejiang (21), Anhui (14), Guangdong (14), Shanghai (2), Fujian (2) and Hunan (1). At the time of notification, there were 35 deaths and 57 severe cases. Eighty of the cases are reported to have had exposure to poultry or a live poultry market.  .  '
'  .  .  .  She is the daughter of the 66-year old male. At the time of report, she was suffering from severe pneumonia.  Human-to-human transmission  .  .  .  cannot be ruled out.  .  .  '
'  .  .  .  He had symptom onset  .  .  .  was admitted in the same ward as the 66-year old male. His current condition is severe.  Human-to-human transmission  .  .  .  cannot be ruled out.  .  .  '
:::Well, the first lady may have shopped in a live chicken market with her father? ?  Or more broadly, she may have had the same environmental exposure.  The second guy already had symptom onset before he was admitted to the hospital ward.  And this doesn't mean the remaining 104 didn't have human-to-human transmission, just that they didn't have an identified connection and it's less likely.
:::What really jumped out at me was that only 80 out of the 106 remember visiting a live poultry market.  Maybe it's being sick and vulnerable and quickly picking up on what's being viewed as a 'negative' activity?  I really don't know.  I have zero experience as a public health interviewer.
'  .  .  .  Relevant prefectures in Jiangsu province have closed live poultry markets in late December 2016 and Zhejiang, Guangdong and Anhui provinces have strengthened live poultry market regulations.  .  .  '
'  .  .  .  Similar sudden increases in the number of human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) infection have been observed in previous years during this period of time (December-January).  .  .  '
'  .  .  .  travellers to countries with known outbreaks of avian influenza should avoid, if possible, poultry farms, contact with animals in live bird markets, entering areas where poultry may be slaughtered, or contact with any surfaces that appear to be contaminated with faeces from poultry [chicken shit, let's state it frankly]  .  .  .  '
::: Yes, we should include the current situation without either overstating or understating. Cool Nerd (talk) 01:58, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nov.  - Dec. 2016 - Jan. 2017 --> ongoing outbreak in China of H7N9 

message: ‘Largest pandemic in 100 years’ threatens China as bird flu spreads, Reuters, Feb. 18, 2017.
'  .  .  Between December 20, 2016 and January 16, 2017, a total of 918 laboratory-confirmed cases of human infections as well as 359 deaths from H7N9 worldwide have been reported to the World Health Organization (WHO).  .  '
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Human infection with avian influenza A(H7N9) virus – China, WHO, Disease outbreak news, 17 January 2017.
'  .  .  To date, a total of 916 laboratory-confirmed human infections with avian influenza A(H7N9) virus have been reported through IHR notification since early 2013.  .  '
:::Quite a difference regarding time period.  On this one, I think the WHO is correct.  Now, day in and day out, Reuters generally does fine journalism, but they blew it on this one.
:::And as always, open invitation, please help me find a variety of good (not perfect) sources.  Cool Nerd (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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