Talk:List of waterfalls

message: In SW Ohio can be seen a pristine waterfall with a 37-foot (11.2m) vertical drop. I'ts located in Miami County on Ross Road 1½ miles west of SR 202. Nearest towns are Tipp City and Huber Heights.
Originating from small underground springs several miles to the east, it flows over Silurian and Ordovician Age rock strata also found in New York State and Canada, it cascades over a cliff and meanders down to the Great Miami River.
On the surrounding gorge can be found uncommon plants such as wild columbine, walking fern, purple cliffbreak, and rock honeysuckle.
Admission is free, there is off-the-road parking and lavatories.
reference: Miami County Park District
Musicwriter 23:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charleston Falls 

message: I was impressed when we visited Magpie Falls, near Wawa, Ontario. To hear the roar as the water cascades over the granite bedrock of the Laurentian Mountains gives one a transcendental inkling to the aesthetic components of nature. The mist wafts through the air, teases your face and imparts a refreshing sensation. By all means bring a camera or camcorder.
Musicwriter 23:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magpie Falls in Canada 

message: The WWD lists Langfoss in Norway as the most scenic waterfall in the world, but it doesn't even get a mention here. Any wikipedian (particularly Norse wikipedians) able to fix this?
I removed the mention of Kaieteur Falls in Guyana as the largest single-drop falls in the world. I heard this many times when I was in Guyana, but unfortunately, it's not true. It's the 121st highest. But if you get the chance, visit it - it must be one of the most neglected of the most beautiful waterfalls in the world (WWD lists it as the 26th most scenic, the 19th largest in terms of volume). It's in totally unspoiled land - so refreshing compared to the kitsch of Niagara, you can get up-close and personal with it (no safety railings!) and it is utterly astounding, with a savage, primordial beauty. Camillus (talk) 00:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Langfoss and Kaieteur

message: Is this just for notable waterfalls or all waterfalls? XD375 20:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In looking at the U.S. list, the list seems to include a few waterfalls that may not be notable based upon height, however, those same falls may be notable for other reasons (scenic beauty, historical significance, etc.).  The list should probably just include notable falls; otherwise it could become too long.  But what makes a waterfall notable?  Tlmclain  | Talk 02:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable or All? 

message: This isn't quite a joke; it's just in adding a few notable BC waterfalls it occurred to me that there are others which no longer exist, mostly due to hydro project.  Dalles des Morts is one such, and very historically notable (now under Arrow Lake) but also Ocean Falls, Stave Falls and others.....I'dimagine the smae applies in the US and elsewhere, e.g. the Nile.  Think it's a worthwhile list/subcat idea?Skookum1 (talk) 19:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of defunct waterfalls]]?

message: there are different types of them like the Abbeys in India.they are realy high and long.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.120.149.166 (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  waterfall 

message: I think the List of US waterfalls is long enough to warrant a list page of it's own, with a link on this page showing the way... -- J.P.Lon (talk) 19:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Listing 

message: Is it my browser, or is the alphabetical TOC atop the page not working? (My browser is Safari, version 3.2.1.) Shannon1talk contribs 01:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just tried it in Firefox, and not working there either. Anyone know how to fix?Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOC 

message: A lot of red links on this list.--The Legendary  Sky Attacker 07:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, so go make some articles; the info is out there.....Skookum1 (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links 

message: There is a duplicate page for Australian waterfalls List_of_waterfalls_of_Australia.  I'd like to suggest that this entire list become links to separate countries and that the waterfalls be broken out into their own pages, a similar idea to J.P.Lon US Listing suggestion above.
Bruce Llama (talk) 12:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I propose doing just that with the UK examples - the dedicated pages for three of its constituent countries (England, Wales, Scotland) are a better place to look for info on them - a note at the appropriate location in this article would dissuade anyone adding more UK examples here in what I'd deem to be a pointless duplication. cheers Geopersona (talk) 19:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicate Listings 

message: Is there any reason why there is one section for Eurasia, but separate section for the two Americas? 112.118.149.119 (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eurasia

message: Have doubts about the existence of waterfalls called "Tangala Falls". No trace in this Wikipedia or other I looked in, No trace in Google Maps, unreasonable for "second largest in Africa", Googling brought Basically only  this, Looks like some kind of confusion with Victoria Falls by a touristic commercial site. Does anyone have any other information? שרעטל (talk) 16:17, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angola,Tangala Falls, second largest in Africa 

message: I see precious little discussion of inclusion criteria here. Generally, "List of..." articles fall into one of several categories:
*Exhaustive: Yes, List of mayors of Cleveland includes every mayor of Cleveland, even those who do not have articles. There are numerous similar lists. Though some of them are quite long, they are complete because they are finite and of reasonable length. (It is not reasonably possible that this list will ever list every waterfall in the world. Even if it did, the list would be hundreds of thousands of entries long and utterly worthless.
*Notable entries only: List of people from Montana does not pretend to (pointlessly) list every person from Montana. Instead, we list notable people from Montana. Who is "notable"? Simple: If there is a Wikipedia article about them, they are notable. You know someone from Montana who is notable but doesn't have an article but want to add them to the list? Great! Simply write the article first.
*Sourced, clear, neutral, and unambiguous criteria: This is a less-commonly used case where we have reliable sources that outline discrete criteria. This is rare.
IMO, the only reasonable option here is notable entries. Comments? - SummerPhDv2.0 03:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it seems people are still editing the article, but have nothing to say about it here. I guess I'll start yanking a few of the red links and see if anyone comments. If not, I'll follow through with that clean-out before re-populating the list according to my suggestion. - SummerPhDv2.0 07:43, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: All remaining redlinks removed. List of waterfalls of Tasmania created. Notable wording added to lead. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 05:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

text: You are proposing that we turn this into a list of every waterfall in the world. New York's official page says there are roughly 2,000 named waterfalls in New York. NY is about 1/3,600 of the land are in the world. Thus, there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,000,000 to 10,000,000 waterfalls you would have us list here. Such a list would be virtually impossible to create and maintain and utterly worthless when completed. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion criteria 

message: Now that Brian has finished the removal of actual redlinks, we have a secondary issue. There are bluelinks, then there are "bluelinks".
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1) Some of the links point to individual articles specifically about the waterfall in question. So long as the article survives, I have no issue with those links remaining here.
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2) Some point or redirect to sections of articles on the river, with the section on the waterfall citing reliable sources. A bit greyer, perhaps, but I think they belong here.
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3) Some point to sections like #2, but the sourcing merely mentions the waterfall. This, IMO, is pretty weak.
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4) Similar to #2, but with no sources even mentioning the waterfall.
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5) A piped link or redirect to an article on the river or a nearby location, with no sourced content on the waterfall. IMO, these do not belong here. The waterfall is clearly not notable.
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Thoughts? - SummerPhDv2.0 18:19, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  100's of daily views of article, very few Talk page views. Looks OK to delete the weak ones, especially #4 & 5 mentioned above. In the longer term, notable definition should include a minimum height or width requirement (say, 50+ ft high or 50+ ft wide), or a very high flow rate (usually high or wide anyway), or any internationally-known historical falls (few small waterfalls would be both internationally-known and historically significant). Each country/state should be split to a new article when it hits about 50-100 falls with just the top 5 or so in each country/state kept in this article. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 07:32, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Bluelinks

message: All red links and non-Wikilinked falls have been removed. Please only add waterfalls that have an existing article specifically about the falls, otherwise they will be removed from the list. When creating new articles, please be sure to include good, reliable references. Hastily-created stub articles (ex: "X falls is Y high and is located at Z.") are not cool and they may be deleted as non-notable. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 06:15, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links and stub articles 

message: Hi L Manju, is the ultimate plan that this list be simply a list of list links? Isn't the purpose of this list to provide readers a summary of the most notable falls per country, and if they want all the falls for a country or state, and such a list exists, then they can link there too? The latter seems to make more sense. Btw, the UK, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Colorado and Oregon could also be removed as they all have 'main lists'. You'll need to trim some images if you remove them though, as they are starting to overflow into the 'See also' section on widescreens. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 04:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Brian W. Schaller. Initially I removed some whole sections as the exist of their main links. I thought that it would be make the article more easy to read by users as reducing its excessive length. But then I noticed that there were some discussions occurred regarding the content of the article. So then I stopped the removal of contents from the article. However the article name is "List of waterfalls" but in the content it has said this is a "list of notable waterfalls". The word notable has been defined but there is no way to verify that the waterfalls given in the article are actually notable or not. I think your idea is better (provide readers a summary of the most notable falls per country, and if they want all the falls for a country or state, and such a list exists, then they can link there too) than replacing the sections with their main links. Pls correct my edits if I have done unsuitable thing. Thanks for your kind consideration--L Manju (talk) 06:48, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As no objections were raised, the edits of July 11-12 mentioned above have been reverted and the additional main article list links were re-added from those same edits. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 05:03, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of all falls for a country or state when a "List of..." article exists 

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