Talk:Reachout Trust

message: I am going to attempt to expand the article with material and citations from reputable secondary sources.  Smee 04:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Smee, for bringing some real references to this article. Regards Bksimonb 06:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you kindly for acknowledging my work.  Where there were previously Zero citations, I have added information in the article such that it is backed up by (14) citations to reputable secondary sourced material.  Smee 11:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: In response to .
You are right it is no co-incidence regarding the Reachout Trust article. I had the article on my watchlist because it used to give undue weighting to the BKWSU (something 244 added) when they do, in fact, focus on the LDS and Jehovah's Witnesses primarily. There is only one testimony on their website about BKWSU and testimonies are not even valid citations for Wikipeda. I have no real beef with Reachout Trust. They are really just doing what they were set up to do.
If I notice vandalism on any page I am watching I aim to correct it.
If you check the history you will see that I actually removed some blatant bias against the Reachout Trust . I also reported the vandalism and the user concerned was blocked since he already had a final warning .
It was unfortunate that someone then decided to turn the whole article into an advert for Reachout Trust in violation of Wikipedia's policies on self-promotion and using a spam username. I couldn't find any references about Reachout Trust on the internet so I decided to flag the page for what it was, a promotional advert.
Since then Smee has kindly recreated the article with proper references, which is how it should be.
Thanks & regards. Bksimonb 07:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response to Green108 from BKWSU talk page regarding this article

message: Smee , I realize that the assoication was un intential but in describing the groups both Christian and non-christian that Reachout Trust seeks to minister to, the article seems to be associating Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons with the occult and New Age. Is there a better way to phrase that introductory sentence?  I realize that some religious groups choose to categorize Mormons and JW's as "Non-Christian" but that's a separate issue entirely. The way it is worded now, it does seem to imply that they are NOT Christian.  I'll see if I can come up with a better wording.  In the meantime, perhaps you can do the same.  How would you feel about this:
:Reachout Trust deals with many different groups including nontrinitarian Christian groups such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Christadelphians as well as the many new religious movements that have risen out of the New Age Movement, Neopaganism, Wicca and the Occult.
That way you are categorizing the Christian sects by their difference in theology while showing they are different in origin from the New Age and Neo-Pagan movements. Strictly speaking, you could say "Christian sects arising from the 19th century Adventist movement" but that would also include Seventh Day Adventists and Christian Science and I don't know if Reachout Trust specifically targets those groups for evangelizing.  I wouldn't want to imply that if they don't.LiPollis 15:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While it's a bit of a wishy-washy wiggle word, judicious application of the word "many" can keep such a phrase accurate yet informative.  Be bold! Gruber76 20:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inadvertant grouping

message: I notice that the word 'pseudo', which was removed earlier, has been put back in to the article.
I object strongly to this as it is not true. We are not a 'pseudo' evenagelacal group; we are Evangelical Christians.
I request that this incorrect word be removed.
Thank you.
Reachouttrust 15:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Doug. The word was inserted by an anonymous IP account a few days ago. Apologies for not spotting it straight away. I've just undone the damage. Regards Bksimonb 15:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted Back