Talk:Sovereign Military Order of Malta

message: Hello, see Miles Davis (later years) to find a cited claim that the Knights of Malta honoured the jazz legend with a knighthood. This is impossible and yet there it is. Ha Ha - it is clearly someone's joke from 1988.  Question: The notes in this article clearly show they do not honour artists and their work is of a completely different nature. It will not make any sense to a reader. What should be done?Thelisteninghand (talk) 21:26, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I don't get it - why do you say that this is "impossible" and "someone's joke"? Elizium23 (talk) 01:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Because both are true.Thelisteninghand (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , you have no source or documentation or evidence that this is so. It's just your say-so. It's textbook WP:OR. This is Wikipedia, where we summarize what the sources say, not impose our own conjectures. Elizium23 (talk) 15:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Incorrect. The evidence is the documentation that shows the Sovereign Order of St John do not and have never honoured artists PLUS the fact stated in this article that they are often impersonated. Yes that's textbook OR agreed. But it is not simply an opinion. I cannot edit on this basis obviously which is why the text is still there. I realise this is WP.Thelisteninghand (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , no artist has ever joined the SMOM? I find that hard to believe and even harder to document. Elizium23 (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks  Please look for yourself. https://www.orderofmalta.int Thelisteninghand (talk) 19:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

text: , I see the front page of their website. Where is the disclaimer, "artists are not welcome as members"? Elizium23 (talk) 00:12, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir Miles Davis 

message: A discussion is taking place as to whether the article :Julian Chadwick, a Knight of Justice, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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thread_title:  Nomination of [[Julian Chadwick]] for deletion 

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message: Underneath the picture, the lowest one is '1454-1451', Is this intentional or just a simple error? FusionSub (talk) 13:29, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags of Knights Hospitaller in Saint Peter's Castle Issue 

message: This article appears to be substantially written by persons who internalize the anachronistic pretensions of the organization.  It would be much improved if it was more objective and realistic. 142.181.220.193 (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article indulges nonsense 

message: "Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta"
Well i dont know to use this idea where there were 4 ofes in the title but the comma itself can be separate the 2 ofes between word. So how i can do that discussion? Well this is utter no understand since it would be vertigo to me for reading that full title. 2404:8000:1027:B639:6CFF:13AA:C44D:922A (talk) 19:38, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the what? 

message: The infobox states there are three full S.M.O.M. citizens, but the source is not verifiable.  John Sack's book states there are three citizens but there is no citation in the text to any official source and his reporting comes from a personal conversation with Baron Apor in the mid 1950s. Does anyone know of any official source that can corroborate this? Wcg5003 (talk) 14:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizen Count