Talk:Honda Insight

message: I'm thinking as the new Honda insight goes to sale, this article is going to get very long.  Compare with the Prius article.  Probably most of the existing article should become a sub article for second generation insight. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 20:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The article size is only at 20KB which is definitely below even consideration level to separate the article. roguegeek (talk·cont) 20:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

text: We should separate first generation Insight into a separate article as it is done in all other auto vehicle articles.--Yegort (talk) 21:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Overall article structure

message: Going through this discussion, there is a clear consensus that the lead picture should be changed. Multiple users overs the last few years have changed the lead picture, but it has been reverted every time by a single user. Ng.j (talk) 08:12, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary

message: The way its written suggests the car is only going to be sold in the US, which simply isn't true. Also the prices are meaning less to everyone outside of NA as we've nothing to compare them to. I'm going to try and adress some of these faults but I've not much to work from so if someone who knows more (and has sources) add some more to it.(86.25.251.62 (talk) 00:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info on second car far to NA centric 

message: (or even less than 14,000 units according to other sources[7]).
1. I doubt the reliability of the source and whether it is referring Global sales.
2. According to Honda (see Hondanews.com), total sales in the U.S. upto (and including) MY 2005 is 13,164; MY 2006 sales is 722; total sales in Europe upto (and including) CY 2004 is 387 (the latest info available from that site); total sales in Japan upto CY 2004 is 2,115; total sales in Canada upto MY 2004 is 370. Total global sales (based on figures available) already reached 16,758. Clearly much closer to the figure from NYT. Therefore, I suggest removal. North wiki (talk) 09:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total production for first generation 

message: It seems various editors has different opinions on which should be the successor(s) of first gen. Insight: 2nd gen. Insight / Civic hybrid / CR-Z. Can we discuss to have a consensus? North wiki (talk) 06:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say 2nd generation Insight. While the CR-Z may be closer in concept, the car that receives the same name would logically and normally be considered the successor.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 17:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.---North wiki (talk) 05:55, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Successor(s) 

message: There was some suspicious marketing language in the "design" subsection of the second generation of the vehicle. Please keep an eye out for anything that looks like it was written by Honda or Toyota PR. Some guy (talk) 00:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing language 

message: Car and Driver  sais:  
"About the size of a deli pie box, the 22-pound e-motor produces 13 horsepower and 36 pound-feet of torque. This augments the three-cylinder's 67 hp and 66 lb-ft, but because the peaks are different, the combined IMA output is 73 hp at 5700 rpm and 91 lb-ft at 2000 rpm."
At present, this article says 25 ft #.
:Noted. Thanks.---North wiki (talk) 02:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torque of 1st Generation Insight electric motor 

message: For the sake of future economy efforts, I felt the need to show that the "frumpy" or awkward looks of the rear are not a necessary consequence of the low drag.  Zagato has made beautiful streamlined aluminum car bodies since soon after the end of World War II, and some Jaguars, perhaps the most flamboyant production cars of their time, had wheel skirts.  More likely, Honda did not want to call in their best stylists or an Italian design house (as they did for the NSX) for a car that was not intended for large volume or great public attention.  David R. Ingham (talk) 00:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aerodynamics and styling 

message: Insight is "the first production vehicle to feature Honda's Integrated Motor Assist system. How, as Wiki editors, we can determine what is interesting, or not, to readers?---North wiki (talk) 04:42, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask people who are interested in the article if that is one of the most interesting things.  I suspect 9/10 will say no.  More interesting is how it compares to Prius and other cars in its segment. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro. section 

message: I wonder if there is a source for this statement: "By March 2013, most of the 2000-2006 Insight hybrids have had their batteries replaced up to three times under warranty by Honda, a failure rate that has increased logarithmically with the passage of time." My 2005 MT has about 70k miles and is on its original battery, with no sign of impending failure. My brother's 2006 AT has over 100k miles and is on its original battery, with no sign of impending failure. I have not seen an indication in the insigntcentral.net forum that battery failures on the older cars are a huge issue, although there are known concerns about whether the replacement batteries are as good as the original ones. In any case, if there were a failure scenario, it would probably not be increasing logarithmically. It might be increasing geometrically or exponentially.
Dlhagerman (talk) 21:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a 2001 Insight that I have owned from new. I detected some reduction in efficiency after approximately 90,000 miles and invested in a new battery set from a third-party supplier. Since then the vehicle efficiency has returned to slightly better than its original state. It has now done 102,000 miles at a lifetime average of 71.1 mpg. ACCassidy (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battery replacement rate on first generation 

message: In the fuel efficiency section is the statement: "Some claim to get over 100 mpg (US)".  Just to the right of that is a photo of the display of an Insight CVT showing 62 mpg over 134 miles, suggesting that a photo constitutes proof for Wikipedia???
I have 3 photos of my 2006 manual transmission Insight 1's display showing mpg values >100 over various distances.  The highest one is 136.3mpg over 27.7 miles on I-90 between Worcester and the Natick Rest Area.  This one was slightly unfair because the car was already fully warmed up when I began this segment.  The elevation dropped 500' over this distance, so it was not all downhill.  However I probably had a mild tailwind, certainly not a raging one.  No I was not drafting anybody, it's far too dangerous for me.  The other two photos ( 109.5 mpg over 138.1 miles and 112.3 mpg over 116.4 miles) reflect trips starting with a cold engine.
I'll be happy to post these photos if someone tells me how to do it. Hybrid driver (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  MPG for Insight 1 

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message: There are some structure and appearance issues on the engines list of the 2nd generation chapter. I think all gasoline engines should be lister together first (with the distinction about the "Japan only" one) and likewise for the electric motors. I just don't know how to edit the page and show it that way. Also there is a wrong reference [2] there, I think. 79.107.44.127 (talk) 17:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engines list