Talk:Republics in the Commonwealth of Nations

message: IP 210.54.114.80 added the "references" template to this article. I have removed this because:
(1) Most of the information here is gleamed from other Wikipedia articles (this is within Wikipedia:Verifiability);
(2) Exactly what hasn't been cited isn't stated. --Lholden 03:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with the removal by LHolden, oh btw; well done Lewis, nice article! Brian | (Talk) 09:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cites

message: Malta did not have a referendum on becoming a republic in 1974 - it was done solely by constitutional amendment. Quiensabe 04:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? I've been told the opposite. --Lholden 04:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malta 

message: There's a long drawn out discussion occuring on that page. Should it be Commonwealth Realms or Commonwealth realms. It may help matters, if we have 'republic' editors joining in. GoodDay 18:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Commonwealth Realms]]

message: Why is the United States omitted from the section on potential members of the Commonwealth?  It includes territory once under British rule. 132.246.2.25 22:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The list is of potential Commonwealth republics, that is, republics from current members of the Commonwealth of Nations --Lholden 02:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: United States of America

message: It is Somaliland that is qualified to be recognised as a British Commonwealth republic,as it seceded from Somalia in 1991. Somalia doesn't qualify, as it is a former Italian colony. - (203.211.79.187 03:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not a recognised nation, but is still considered by the world as part of Somalia. That-Vela-Fella 19:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Somaliland]]

message: It was the last Governor-General of Guyana who became the first President of Guyana as an interim measure. - (203.211.79.187 03:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Guyana]]

message: It was the last Governor of Dominica who became the first President of Dominica upon independence. - (203.211.79.187 03:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Dominica]]

message: Fiji is not a former British Commonwealth member state. Suspension from the British Commonwealth does not revoke its membership.
The Republic of Ireland is a country that does qualify for British Commonwealth membership, as it was under direct British rule as was Somaliland. - (203.211.79.187 03:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, it does say that Fiji is suspended & nowhere does it say that it lost it's current membership (based on what is already stated, unless it'll lapse again). As for Ireland, it's already under the same heading below as those that could qualify. That-Vela-Fella 19:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about Commonwealth republics, not membership of the Commonwealth. As for the Republic of Ireland, it was the Irish Free State, so wasn't under direct British rule, not that that matters to Commonwealth membership anyway. It does qualify for Commonwealth membership. --Lholden 20:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suspended and former members

message: It is the Commonwealth of Nations, not "the British".  Aidan Work is fifty years behind the times, even when evading bans by hiding behind IP addresses. Hu 12:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commonwealth not British 

message: I have never heard of this term before bumping into this page...Is the term in use? Does the Commonwealth secreteriat use such a term? --Cameron (t|p|c) 19:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of the term Commonwealth realm before, either. Please don't zap away that article. Those republics deserve a Commonwealth article, too. The Commonwealth of Nations is not all monarchies. GoodDay (talk) 20:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of a Pontryagin duality before either, but that doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist or that it's a neologism. Commonwealth realm, as has been established elsewhere, is a term that, though not frequently used in common language, does exist beyond Wikipedia and has a pre-established definition.  Commonwealth republic, though, does not. If this were to be titled Republics of the Commonwealth of Nations, or something like that, it would be an all-together different matter; but, even then, what is in here that isn't at Commonwealth of Nations, or couldn't easily be put there? --G2bambino (talk) 20:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Please don't delete or re-direct that article. GoodDay (talk) 20:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've no sources for this article. I won't oppose a 'merge' or an AfD. GoodDay (talk) 21:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a wider debate about the various terms used to describe Commonwealth members at the Commonwealth of Nations talk page. I would add though that politicians in Australia and New Zealand have used the term from time to time. --Lholden (talk) 23:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps list of republics within the commonwealth? I agree with TharkunColl and g2; both this and the commonwealth republic articles are, quite frankly, a joke...and need to be dealt with!--Cameron (t|p|c) 19:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that a consensus for merging both  the Commonwealth republic and Commonwealth kingdom articles into Commonwealth of Nations is emerging. I support that idea and agree (with User:Cameron and others) that frankly both articles are a joke and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. My initial support for there being a Commonwealth kingdom article was premised on the fact that there was a Commonwealth republic article. I hope there will be volunteers for the work. I will help! Regards. Redking7 (talk) 21:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Commonwealth republic a term that is in use?

message: It seems back when we first had this discussion (see directly above post) we forgot to follow up on this one. I afd'd Commonwealth kingdom directly after the above discussion but seem to have forgotten this one. It seems to me, this article actually has some salvagable content to I'd propose renaming this to one of G2's above suggestions. --Cameron* 20:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed I haven't added my two cents, yet.  I would suggest that the terminology be scrubbed (because nobody uses it), but that the article remain - perhaps under the name 'Republics in the Commonwealth of Nations' or 'Republics and the Commonwealth of Nations'.  There is a legitimate discussion of the history, predominantly before the London Declaration.  However, from the London Declaration until 2007, it was still the case that Commonwealth realms needed to reapply when becoming republics (which was not the case in the theoretical case in which a Commonwealth realm became an indigenous monarchy - proving that republics held a special position in the Commonwealth).  Could people add what they think? Bastin 00:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I'd be happy with that. The main issue is moving this article to a page that sounds less like official terminology... --Cameron* 09:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got no problem with changing the articles name to Republics in the Commonwealth of Nations. I think that's a more apt title - however as I've stated above, the term "Commonwealth republic" is actually used by politicians in both Australia and New Zealand, mainly to refute the FUD put out by monarchists --Lholden (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Republics in the Commonwealth of Nations sounds OK, though I wonder why distinguishing republics from monarchies in the Commonwealth is so necessary. It seems to me far simpler to simply have a genereal treatment such as exists in Commonwealth of Nations with links to particular nations. In other words, the present article Commonwealth of Nations answers to the purpose. It seems that these sorts of distinctions do nothing more than create articles which replicate perfectly adequate treatments of the nations involved.--Gazzster (talk) 06:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I tend to side with Gazz on this, as the first thing I always wonder is: why is there an article on republics in the Commonwealth, but none for the non-realm kingdoms like Brunei and Lesotho? Plus, I'm now on a bit of a general purging mission to get rid of duplicated material! :D --Miesianiacal (talk) 09:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I fully agree with User:Miesianiacal, it is inconsistent that there is an article focused on the republics in the Commonwealth but non for the "non-Realm monarchial states". Thats the manin reason I originally created the Commonwealth kingdoms article but it was rejected and deleted. At least I agree with the renaming of this article. "Commonwealth republic" was a wiki invention (rather like "Commonwealth realm" is for the most part). Regards. Redking7 (talk) 08:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename proposal

message: The map in the articles needs to be updated (very slightly) to include Rwanda. Davshul (talk) 08:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to update map 

message: Map of the Commonwealth republics: Rwanda is missing.
--Nnemo (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of the Commonwealth republics 

message: The Gambia has withdrawn from the Commonwealth, with effect from the 3rd. of October. - (203.211.72.83 (talk) 06:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The Gambia has withdrawn from the Commonwealth of Nations

message: The Gambia has begun the process towards returning to the Commonwealth, as the President of the Gambia, Adama Barrow is very pro-British, having lived in England for a number of years. - (119.224.80.18 (talk) 09:24, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Gambia has begun the process towards returning to the Commonwealth. 

message: The Gambia has returned to the Commonwealth - as from the 8 February 2018!
Someone needs to update this article and the map to reflect this fact. - (101.98.104.241 (talk) 08:27, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Gambia has returned to the Commonwealth - as from the 8 February 2018! 

message: The Maldives is no longer a former Commonwealth republic - as it has returned to being a Commonwealth republic as from 1 February 2020 - (124.197.55.28 (talk) 04:05, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maldives.