Talk:Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

message: This is all we have on Saif al-Islam???  I'm adding an External link - a really good one. Simesa 05:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments in August 2007

message: It is very strange that his mother is not mentioned. Who is she? Is she unknown? Jahibadkaret (talk) 00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have copied the answer given in the Arabic Wikipedia. Luwilt (talk) 00:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's his mother? 

message: The article was today moved by Alwad7 from Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi on the basis that Saif is "widely known as" Saif al-Islam Muammar. Please provide a citation to justifying this move.---PJHaseldine (talk) 12:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As given on his personal website and the official Libyan News Agency, citation, plus the article shows that he's the son of Muammar al-Gaddafi.In Allah We Trust.--Alwad7 (User talk:Alwad7) 15:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But this citation gives his name as "Saif Al-Islam Muammar Gaddafi", which means that the "Gaddafi" part of his name has been omitted. Saif's name is being corrected accordingly.---PJHaseldine (talk) 17:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   You didn't Understand what i meant, By Providing the Citation I wanted to show that Muammar is a part of his name, thus only calling him Saif Muammar- as it is the case localy- would be correct, the reason syllable Gaddafi was added, is because it's the name of the foundation [GDF]. SaiF Al-Islam Muammar is a Correct Name, Full Name is shown for further detial.
and Please Justify your omitting of the "Dr." from his name, and Changing it to Gaddafi instead of Al-Gaddafi.
In Allah We Trust 02:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move needs to be justified

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support. Few news sources seem to be including the "Muammar" part. Ucucha 01:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Most of the text of this section is a testimonial about the 1986 bombing of Libya and has nothing to do with the subject of that section.--84.108.213.97 (talk) 11:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, as it is, the following sentence after that quote seems like a non-sequitor.  That section needs to be re-written.68.94.91.172 (talk) 21:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daily Telegraph libel suit 

message: In the education section, following "and a PhD from London School of Economics in 2008, awarded for a thesis entitled "The Role of civil society in the democratisation of global governance institutions: from 'soft power' to collective decision-making?"" please add "Evidence has since come to light that the PhD was plagiarized and may be withdrawn."
See here: http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/02/is-this-irony-or-absurdity-saif-al-islam-al-qadhafis-disseration.html
And here: http://saifalislamgaddafithesis.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
8890bottle (talk) 19:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 8890bottle, 22 February 2011 

message: The word 'extemporaneous' in the first sentence of the "2011 Libyan protests" section should be deleted, or at least taken in quotes. As can be seen in this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piEslrLNSoQ - he is repeatedly glancing at something lying on the desk in front of him. Could it be... I don't know... a list of points to make?..
Also, I don't know if the exact time the speech began is all that important.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.92.180.248 (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "extemporaneous" speech 

message: A section in this article begins as follows:
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:: Having lost the case, The Daily Telegraph was[.....]
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This is incomprehensible.  It says "Having lost the case" when no "case" has ever been mentioned in the article. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context 

message: Our article on LSE Libya Links asserts he has a Masters in Pol Philosophy from LSE. Do we have any ref on this? (Msrasnw (talk) 20:49, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masters in Political Philosophy (2003) LSE as well as PhD 

message: The BBC are reporting that it is the sixth son (born 1982) and not this one, the second one, who has died in a NATO attack. Confusingly that are both called Saif.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.68.45 (talk) 22:54, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Saif al-Arab is reported dead; Saif al-Islam is not.  Let's assume that there'll be a bunch of mistaken edits unless there's a disambiguation added at the top of the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.37.196.149 (talk) 22:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess one of the main problems is that Saif al-Islam Gaddafi is quite a prominent figure in the west whereas Saif al-Arab Gaddafi (who has actually been reported dead) is not as well known. I agree that people are going to keep mistakenly making this edit as a result. Bandanamerchant (talk) 23:25, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not dead 

message: He's completely bald at only 39. (92.7.3.54 (talk) 12:18, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's funny, but please stick to cited information that can improve the article.    ~ AdvertAdam  talk 17:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Baldness isn't necessarily determined by the father's appearance.ChristopherGregory (talk) 01:14, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he really Gaddafi's son? 

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message: He hasn't been captured by rebel forces, and has appeared greeting Gaddafi loyalists and by journalists held by the govenrment in the Rixo Hotel in Tripoli. Sky news article--Welshsocialist (talk) 01:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Not captured

message: We need an update with regard to the status of his PhD. Given the embarrassment caused to the LSE by its financial links to the Gadaffis, you would think they would go ahead and revoke his PhD over the plagiarism that has been demonstrated, so as to distance themselves from him and cling to whatever shreds of academic integrity they have left at that institution. The article says that pressure has been put on the LSE, but there is nothing about the outcome of this. Could anyone who knows update the article? Beorhtwulf (talk) 16:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  LSE latest 

message: According to the Bulgarian bTV (alturl.com/wjwuf) Gaddafi's son, Saif al-Islam, offered to surrender to The Hague Court with the former head of Libyan intelligence, Abdullah AS Senusi. Is there another more reliable source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.187.184.95 (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saif al-Islam offered to surrender to The Hague? 

message: This was said not to a congressional aide, but during an interview with a western news organisation after the execution of Saddam Hussein and when Gaddafi was considered "an important ally" and "a peacemaker in Africa". There was the full interview on YouTube a couple of years ago, but I've been unable to find it now. The interviewer was female, but I cannot recall which organisation she belonged to. Think it was the BBC. It made very interesting viewing.
78.133.124.10 (talk) 14:53, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  International diplomacy section 

message: Both La voz de Galicia and Der Spiegel have short notes quoting Maariv.
Other media precise 13 January 2006.
Could somebody get a link to the original exposé?
--Error (talk) 20:17, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maariv 

message: :where he blamed the civil war on tribal factions and Islamists acting on their own agendas, drunken and drugged.
Who was "drunken and drugged"?
The tribals?
The Islamists?
Saif?
--Error (talk) 20:23, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  drunken and drugged 

message: What is the deal with whether or not Saif al-Islam is sought by the ICC to stand trial? It seems difficult to find a clear ICC 'wanted' list. Has he been indicted? Is Libya in default of its obligations by not handing him over? If a person had information about his whereabouts is this information the ICC would be interested in? If he turned up in another country would that country be required to hand him over to the ICC? It seems inconceivable that he has just slipped out of prison quietly and that's the end of the matter. Beorhtwulf (talk) 13:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The Libyan militia claim the ICC did not request them to hand him over: https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/News/2017/5/9/Libyas-Saif-al-Islam-survives-assassination-attempt-in-Zintan (2A00:23C4:638A:5000:8424:11B8:9085:5ECA (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for that info and the link to the news report. There is a bit more in the article on this topic now, including a reference to the ICC's statement on the matter. Beorhtwulf (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status with the International Criminal Court 

message: It was said that he was recently released due to a general amnesty. Can someone confirm this and then add it to the article? So far only the Figaro reported it and I do not speak french so I can not verify it. 2A02:8388:1641:3580:BE5F:F4FF:FECD:7CB2 (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent release 

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