Talk:Health and Safety Executive

message: HSE is also a generally accepted term in business refering to "Health, Safety and Environment."  Companies have extensive policy and staff to ensure the safety and health of their employees, the customers, other people and the environment.  This ranges from seeming trivial things like dietary instruction and ergonomics to regulating the types of personal protective equipment (PPE) that must be worn to the procedures to report near-misses, etc.
This topic needs to be covered in a separate article.
Brandon 14:11, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well create Health, Safety and Environment then, and make HSE a disambiguation page. This is, however, no reason to split Health and Safety Executive. -- Arwel 17:35, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

message: I have added a POV tag as this article is not neutral. This body is perhaps the most widely ridiculed in British public life, yet there is not a hint at its controversial nature in this article. Abberley2 (talk) 18:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: . Or to be less brusque, there's plenty of elfandsafetygonemad stories in the media, but how many of them are specifically about the HSE, rather than the general topic of health and safety? Oldelpaso (talk) 10:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Your addition is generally reasonable, but I removed two of the references as they didn't mention the HSE at all. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:57, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Oldelpaso. I'm aware that those links didn't mention the HSE by name, but they referred to the regulations which the HSE has created. I'm grateful for your help, but would you mind bringing in some additional references of your own, instead of merely deleting?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salim555 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

text: By their very nature, criticism sections are something that need to be handled carefully. Synthesis of sources is an easy trap to fall into. we need to stick exactly to what the source says, and we need to make sure the sources used are reliable. It a big jump from the quote "We seem to have allowed [ourselves] to get into a position where we get the blame for things for which we are not responsible" to "However, the HSE denies this, saying that much of the criticism is misplaced because it relates to matters outside the HSE's remit". Likewise we can't put "most criticism of the HSE is that their regulations are over-broad, suffocating, and part of a nanny state" when the reference uses neither "over-broad" nor "suffocating". I'm not saying HSE doesn't get accused of such things – it almost certainly does – but we cannot state that without correctly attributed sourcing. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That Telegraph article is weird. It is titled "Health and safety laws are costing jobs" and then says nothing about that in the body. A victim of the trend to promote clickthroughs from the front pages of newspaper sites, no doubt. Makes citing things a pain. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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message: Whilst the infographic added 9 July 2014 is relevant it is hosted on a commercial site, are we okay with this being an external link?RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 12:47, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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