Talk:University of the Cumberlands

message: As per the problem that Rlquall sets, I think this article would benefit from some more information about the college in general. The controversy can be warrented on this page if it recieved less emphasis. The problem that Rlquall shows is that the controversy is a recent scandal and has the feel of just news (see CNN's coverage on University of the Cumberlands). The solution to Rlquall's problem is expanding the history and other forms of information about the University so that the controversy is the only thing left. For example, Hampden-Sydney College has an article on Wikipedia, and the college has had issues with gay students, but the article does not focus on this. The article, instead, focuses on the schools history and gives facts before it talks about homosexual students.
:Yes. Just like this one does. - Outerlimits 20:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To make it Encyclopedic 

message: I have reworded the statement that was made concerning the claim by the student involved in the April 8, 2006 controversy.  According to the student, the policy on homosexual and pre-marital relations was not added to the university handbook until after his enrollment. While I can't speak with authority as to the policies after 1998, I can say that during the entire time I was a student at UC (I graduated in 1998), this policy was in effect and clearly stated in the student handbook. I felt that the students statements should be left in because that is what his attorney reported to the press but due to the first hand knowledge of the policies of the mid-90's it should be reworded. Dblevins2 16:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: University Policy Statement

message: Certainly there are many things that can be said about the expulsion of an openly gay student from a conservative Christian university.  It can arguably be condemned as bigoted, narrow-minded, and discrimnatory.  It can conversely be lauded as principled and a failure to bow before the winds of political correctness.  All of this is POV-dependant.  It can even be regarded as a local news story.  But I don't know if it is encyclopedic.  That a student would be expelled from a conservative school like this for being gay is not particularly surprising, nor would I say if put in a national, rather than local context, particularly rare.  Does it really belong in what should be a NPOV encyclopedia article about the school?  I won't do anything about it until there are several days to allow for discussion, if anyone has any.  The only way that it can be encyclopedic in my opinion would be related to the subsequent dispute over public funding of the school of pharmacy.  I don't really know about the stuff about the college president getting a faculty member removed over something supposedly said on a website is really encyclopedic, either.  (Let's face it, that sort of petty stuff goes on at colleges all of the time.) 
Rlquall 15:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic? 

message: "This is not the first time President Taylor has severed relations with someone from the school because he didn't like what they had written on the Internet." I am not sure this is a necessary statement as anyone who talks ill of their employer is likely to face disciplinary action. It is also quite presumptuous as to the nature of the University's president and therefore not objective. Any thoughts on removing it? Or at least saying that Day was arguably exercising the idea of academic freedom? Xmidwayx 20:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. At best, the statement is borderline POV. I think the sentence could be salvaged with a NPOV rewrite, but I'm not familiar enough with the situations in question to make that edit. In the absence of a rewrite, I'd support removal per POV. Acdixon 21:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as each section doesn't necessarily need its own intro I would think it best just to remove it all the way. Xmidwayx 04:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robert Day introduction 

message: I re added the controversy section because it was inadequately removed; Any objections should be raised here. Avono (talk) 18:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Coming here from WP:COIN, this looks like ordinary edit-warring over a political issue rather than a conflict of interest.  As for the article content, the controversy section needs some updating; it talks about a 2007 event as being in the future. The controversy seems to have wound down, but the article doesn't indicate the outcome. Someone might want to update and tighten up that section, and collect related items under one heading. John Nagle (talk) 08:14, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Can the unregistered editor who keeps trying to remove "Christian" from the lede of this article please explain his or her edit? Although the university is no longer formally associated with the Kentucky Baptist Covention, the second sentence in the institution's mission makes it very clear that the institution still considers itself Christian: "The institution is grounded in Christian principles and leadership through service." ElKevbo (talk) 16:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed this glaring omission before checking the talk page. Added it back. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:12, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unexplained removal of "Christian" 

message: Grant Brace was a wrestler who died of a heat stroke after his coaches refused to give him water. The school settled with the family for $14M. This is a notable incident and should be included in the article Moebiusdad (talk) Moebiusdad (talk) 04:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   Grant Brace's death