Talk:Mathematical and theoretical biology

message: I reverted the partial AE -> BE shift in the spelling - BE was the first spelling used for any variant word .  In addition, this was only a partial shift, made spelling inconsistent in the article.  Guettarda 13:16, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for this change. Porcher 14:42, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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message: I think there's a problem with the referencing on this page.  The idea of footnotes is, well, they are meant to refer to something at the foot of the page!  That should give the full formal reference, and *that* may in turn link to a copy of the paper.  But I don't expect to have to download some PDF to find out which paper you are referring to.  
In fact, I much prefer the Harvard referencing style.  If I say in the text "genes are selfish (Dawkins 1976)" then probably 70% at least of the people reading the article wouldn't need to go look & see what book I was referring to, so it saves them time.  If you don't allow Harvard referencing, most people are not going to have time or bother to look up every single reference, so they loose out on some information.
See further WP:Cite --Jaibe 20:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: The citecheck template covers a narrow sort of problem: if an editor doubts that a citation presents information appropriately (such as giving inaccurate facts or quoting out of context).  It seems that some other template would be appropriate here.  See Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Cleanup resources. Durova 02:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: an increasing interest in in silico experimentation due to the complications involved in human and animal research.
That's a euphemistic way of saying "an increasing interest in not performing experiments because they're too hard. "In silico experimentation" is an oxymoron.
Also, this entire "Importance" subsection is purely speculative, subjective, unreferenced, and unjustified. It should be removed. --75.58.54.17 23:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: what's with this list??  It's completely arbitrary and incomplete... I'd suggest just getting rid of it 128.200.174.63 (talk) 22:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree: We need to delete the list of names. There are too many famous theoretical biologists to have an exhaustive list on this main page. The current list has people of various degrees of notability, and I can not think of a clear line as to how notable one would have to be in this field to make the list. MATThematical (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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message: In the list of deterministic equations used in mathematical biology, maps and difference equations are separated. Aren't these the same thing, at least from a mathematical biology sense. I know that maps are more general in a mathematical sense, but I don't quite see why they are separated. Perhaps write the list with "difference equations/maps", or delete maps all together. They are both continuous state space and discrete time. If they are in fact different this should be mentioned in this article. --MATThematical (talk) 16:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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message: The article currently says Evolutionary biology has been the subject of extensive mathematical theorizing. The overall name for this field is population genetics. I would say that although there is a big overlap, much of evolutionary biology is not population genetics, e.g. paleontological investigations. --Ettrig (talk) 14:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But paleontological investigations do not involve mathematical and theoretical biology. There are sophisticated measurement techniques, but those are not considered mathematical biology when they take place in other fields. Joannamasel (talk) 16:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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message: In the beginning, the article states
:It includes at least four major subfields: biological mathematical modeling, relational biology/complex systems biology (CSB), bioinformatics and computational biomodeling/biocomputing.
As someone who has a degree in mathematical biology, I have the feeling that this is misleading. In my opinion,
* mathematical modeling in biology is the traditional core field of mathematical biology;
* bioinformatics is not part of mathematical biology as it is more closely related to computer science / statistics than mathematics;
* systems biology is an area of research the draws from several fields, including mathematical biology, bioinformatics, biology and physics;
* computational biomodeling: I don't know this topic too well.
I would recommend to change this part of the article. Any other opinions?--109.45.105.190 (talk) 05:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, and am deleting the sentence. Joannamasel (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
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message: This appears to be one person's neologism and/or pet theory. The term "relational physiology" does get a couple of hits on Scholar, but they are not related to it. This theory and its author get exactly one hit on Scholar; it has no cites. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: , I've undone your addition to the article, as the only citation was to the author of the theory; I believe that it should not be re-added until and unless there is some take-up of the concept by other academics, so that the content can be cited to independent reliable sources, in accordance with our policy on verifiability. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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message: Could you have a look at this effort, here, to use clade diagrams to summarize pharma business acquisitions. My take at present is that the images created are devoid of standard quantitative meaning—nothing is captured by vertical and horizontal line lengths, as far as I can tell—and so they are a misapplication of this maths/graphic presentation method. Moreover, I argue that they are misleading (presenting a time axis, but not making spacing of events proportionate to the historical time differences), much harder to maintain (consider adding entries to a std Table versus this graphic), more likely to diminish article quality (in their ambiguity of content, again, over a std Table with clear headings), and therefore practically amenable to decay as a result. I would add to this, in this esteemed math-bio context, that they would make those who trained us, and other purists in methodology and meaning (and Edward Tufte more generally), turn in their graves/beds. After having a look at the User page and at a couple of pages linked on that sandbox page, leave your opinion here, regarding the overall effort? Thanks for your opinion. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about the inappropriate posting above.  I have opened a discussion in the appropriate forum, here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Companies#Diagrams, for anyone who is interested Jytdog (talk) 03:26, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Jytdog moved the question to a new forum, the one where it is least likely to be viewed with rigour, see last comment and link. I reply there. I stand by the fact that maths theor biol is an appropriate venue to call for experts, and that it was appropriate to call out to you you at this location, to ask your input. All coming from this area, I would appreciate if you state for the record, if you have any real knowledge on this matter (have ever actually done a cladogram-type computations/presentations). Transparency, please. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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