Talk:ISU Judging System

message: I have a problem with this statement:
"Another problem is that the new system excessively constrains the content of skaters' programs and reduces creativity."
An example, quote, source, or explanation would be nice.  This is far from neutral and remains pure opinion as it is. --MuskMelon 21:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that much of the article lacks sources. --Fang Aili talk 03:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for sources 

message: Would one of you like to write something up for DYK? I'm going out of town for most of the weekend. --Fang Aili talk 03:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Plushenko-protocol.jpg

message: there shoudl be a section on the changes made to COP and its evolution.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.142.117.145 (talk) 19:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  changes to code of points? 

message: This sentence is unclear: The GOE value from the nine judges is then averaged by randomly selecting seven judges, discarding the high and low value, and averaging the remaining seven.
If seven out of nine judges are chosen at random, and the highest and lowest figures are discarded, then that only leaves only five judges' marks to be averaged, not seven as stated in the last word of the sentence. 
Mandolamus (talk) 17:09, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Rule 353(c) of the 2012 ISU rules suggests that the random elimination isn't done for a nine-judge panel: "The panel's Grade of Execution (GOE) is determined by calculating the trimmed mean of the numerical values of the Grades of Execution awarded by the maximum of nine (9) Judges." ("trimmed mean" being the mean after excluding the highest and lowest values) --Achurch (talk) 10:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear sentence on GOE 

message: I don't know enough about the changes to the Ice Dancing scoring procedures as connected with the switch from Compulsory Dance + Original Dance + Free Dance to Short Dance + Free Dance to change the section about scoring in Ice Dance, but the change was made for the 2010-2011 season and the 2014 Olympics will be contested under this new system. People may start coming to this page to learn more about how Ice Dancing is actually judged and not get the right information. Can someone better informed about the technical level of skating judging update this? Metheglyn (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to Ice Dancing Scoring Post-2010 

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message: In the 2004 Golden Spin of Zagreb held in November, the 6.0 system was still used. (source: official results). New system was used in (November) 2005 (official results) I see that new system was used in 03–04  and 04–05 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final.
This need further explanation. Was the first season optional for some competitions? What was the first season new system was implemented (03–04 or 04–05)? 89.201.177.210 (talk) 11:18, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  replaced the previous 6.0 system in 2004 ? NOT 

message: I believe it should be covered in the article. If was felt by a part of the figure skating community that Lysacek did not deserve the win, that the win was stolen from  Plushenko by the judges. "Olympic champion [Lysacek] doesn't know how to do jump quad". There are two things to consider. Were their programs judged by the book? Are difficult jumps (quad) given enough credit in this new rulebook when compared to less challenging transitions and such. There is also a third problem which was mentioned by Plushenko at that time:  "“I [Plushenko] did a great short program but didn’t get the marks I deserved. When I asked why they told me I was skating early and they had to retain top marks for the last group,” he said." this is similar to 2002 Olympics scandal: "“We’d seen this before. In 2002 Irina Slutskaya unfairly was placed second in the short program so that Sarah Hughes could get a better shot at winning the gold,” Alexei Vasilyev said." 
  89.201.177.210 (talk) 13:16, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Olympics controversy and "saving points" in short program (2002,2010) 

message: There are banned elements that are the same for men and women singles competition. But there are also differences, one being " women are not allowed to do quads in the short program". There could be more. This is bad for female skaters who can do quads. I believe those differences should be covered in this article.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Setenzatsu.2 (talk • contribs) 13:46, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  men v women differences in rulebook 

message: I strongly recommend to use the official terminology and abbreviations introduced by the International Skating Union, both for the section headings as well as the prose content. The correct terms for judges' scores, which you find in every ISU result table and PDF document, are the following:
*Technical Element Score (TES): includes Base Values (BV), Grades of Execution (GOE) and possible calls or deductions for elements
*Program Component Score (PCS): includes the scores for all program components (five before and three after the system change)
*Total Segment Score (TSS): sum of TES and PCS
I created redirects for TES, PCS, and GOE, which are often linked in figure skating articles. If you want to link "TES" in an article, you can use . It navigates you directly to the respective section of this article.
 Important note: Terms such as "technical score", "presentation score" or "artistic score" are all unofficial (even incorrect) and should  be used in encyclopedic articles.
Henni147 (talk) 17:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section headings updated