Talk:Hikikomori

message: Welcome to the NHK and this video portray only half the story. There are two types of hikikomori: hardcore (Satou and the man in this video) and borderline (Nishijou Takumi from Chaos:Head). The difference is borderline hikkis go out to go to school or work and at night to buy food because although they cannot fully go outside they are willing to stay out for as long as necessary because they have enough confidence to, hardcore hikikomori NEVER go outside. The main reason for people becoming hikikomori is they have PDDs (Asperger's Syndrome etc.) and thus are socially inept and as a result get bullied. Then the person who has the PDD becomes afraid of other humans because they are intelligent people anyway and can list humanity's many faults. Basically, people are not friendly if you are socially inept and so hikkis are afraid to go outside because there are many people outside. The majority (who as usual are wrong) are the problem and not the hiki. If you want people not to be hik kikomori you must give them a reason to come outside. Why do "normal" people go outside? To talk to PEOPLE. Why don't hikis go outside? To avoid PEOPLE. Nobody is a hikki for the fun of it, it's because the choice a PDD sufferer faces is go outside and be ridiculed by everyone or stay inside. Admit it, hikis and non-hikis alike, if people are nice to you would you go outside? Of course you would! Hikkis want girlfriends too but they limit themselves to anime girlfriends because real girls don't want them because they're socially inept and the anime girls can't refuse them to their faces. The worst level of hikikomori is Satou (no job and is not an otaku so won't easily be amused), in the middle we have Nishijou Takumi (borderline and because he is an otaku he can easily be amused) and the least stressful level of hikki is otaku hikki with a job. I am an otaku hikki with a job and I love it! Although Satou has too much time to do nothing I have too little time to do many things! I'm no t saying you should become an otaku hikki with a job I'm just saying I'm happy with my situation. It is a common stereotype of hikki that they shut out the sun (Satou, the man in this video are two examples). A reason is not given in either case so I ask why? I do shut out the sun because it looks so beautiful to a boy from a wet country that I can't concentrate on my writing (which requires a lot of concentration). 
Sources:
*9 years of being a hikki (still am), 2 of those years as a hardcore and 7 as a borderline.
*Welcome to the NHK (all episodes)
*Chaos:Head (all episodes)
*I've completed the game Hikikomori Quest.
*The HF at getphpbb.com 
I'm not sure if the above is any help but I can't let 9 years go to waste. Sioraf (talk) 18:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Your classification of hikkikomoris sounds very interesting. If it's possible to add some reliable surveys or accounts on the broad spectrum of hikkikomoris, as opposed to the blunt designation of 'hikki' for few observable behaviors, the article would be more insightful. Protez (talk) 14:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I've yet to see any authoritative source that has stated this.  As a loanword, it is still quite new, and doesn't have a widely agreed upon meaning. -Verdatum (talk) 14:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Hikkikomori

message: Section moved here. Items could be integrated:
* In the visual novel (and anime adaptation) Chaos;Head, the male protagonist, Takumi Nishijō, is described as a hikikomori.
* The novel (and manga/anime adaptation) Welcome to the N.H.K by Tatsuhiko Takimoto is a first person account of the hikikomori lifestyle.
* In the manga/anime Rozen Maiden, the male lead, Jun Sakurada, is a hikikomori.
* In the anime, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, a recurring character, Kiri Komori, is a hikikomori.
* In the 2001 novel Nippon Nipponia by Kazushige Abe, the main character, Haruo Toya, is a hikikomori- or incel-type figure.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krimp Varkey (talk • contribs) 23:05, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: I'm restating the situation here in case anyone is missing the post above.  No discussion forum related to Hikikomori should be linked.  This is per WP:ELNO #10. "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should avoid...Links to...chat or discussion forums/groups". It is not Wikipedia's job to pick a favorite.  If someone wants to find a forum on just about anything, they can Google it quite easily.  If you don't like the guideline, you may want to discuss it at the guideline page.  If you think there's a valid exception to the rule here, please justify your reasoning.  Otherwise, I'll continue to remove them, thanks! -Verdatum (talk) 20:20, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding external links

message: The "Prevalence" section mentions an important estimate (20% of male adolescents), but also that that estimate was probably inaccurate. It doesn't mention any more accurate estimates. Do they exist?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.165.106 (talk) 17:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual prevalence 

message: I consulted a few dictionaries because I wanted to know the etymology of the word hikikomori. In the article, the kanji read as the "ko" in "komori" is a kanji for "basket",籠, vs. komori as a form of komoru 篭る, to seclude or confine; neither kanji is found in my beginners dictionary. The kanji for hiki, 引き, or pull, is correct. Perhaps a few Japanese sources should be consulted to find the correct kanji for komori, and use hiragana to write it phonetically for the time being, 引きこもり. Diggnity (talk) 05:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  correct kanji 

message: Some 引き籠もり recover and go on to lead normal lives. What is known about this? How many recover, and what can be done to help? Uucp (talk) 04:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As one, I'd like to know too >_>
-G  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.111.147 (talk) 03:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  recovery? 

message: SPD (Schizoid personality disorder) could or should be added in Theories on cause.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.55.214.207 (talk) 00:49, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPD 

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thread_title:  Related disorders, citation issue templates 

message: Can be found here. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC news article 

message: Against merge [Dokuo] with [Hikikomori]. They aren't the same thing because females can be Hikikomori. Derpian (talk) 04:22, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Dokuo with Hikikomori 

message: What proof do we have that that person really is a hikikomori, and not just an ordinary Japanese young man? The photo only serves to consolidate prejudices against hikikomori.--Mycomp (talk) 05:51, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's from a documentary that was up on YouTube. Can't find it now for whatever reason. Although I feel like using an image in this article is pointless. Myonmiya (talk) 06:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

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message: All countries have "shutters", but countries with great traditions (important traditions cause more stress to these people than thorough westernization, because traditions want you to do or to follow or to believe things chosen by the tradition and not by the individual) and higher average IQ have more.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:821E:7800:F93C:28ED:282B:C51B (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not only Japan has ''shutters'' 

message: Is it a disorder to enjoy being alone? Seems kinda like throwing a party and then trash talking the people who didn't want to come. Why should they? What does modern social life give them? What is so great about eating out when you can build robots in your bedroom? 71.65.251.155 (talk) 12:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Disorder? 

message: Two unregistered users have opposed the inclusion of adding Omori (video game) to the See also section, one of them arguing that the game "does not have hikikomori solely as it's focus nor is it even mentioned anywhere" else. I've reverted the removal at least twice and, since this could otherwise advance to the point of an edit war, I decided to mention the title here, especially since there's no consensus I can find about it in the talk archives or anything else established. Carlinal (talk) 22:37, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether contributors are registered or not is of no relevance. Can you link to third-party sources discussing the significance of the video game to the topic of this article? Because otherwise, this looks like promotion, or unsourced trivia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omori (the video game)