Talk:Lapis lazuli

message: What exactly is meant by "...one of the oldest of all gems...?" Such a phrase makes it sound like it is one of the oldest gems to form in the history of the earth. Is that what the phrase is meant to mean? Or is it meant to mean that it is one of the oldest used by man? Kingturtle 09:04, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: "...one of the oldest of all gems..."

message: Is the term 'cast' as used in the description paragraph: 'these are often a very dark blue with a noticeable grey cast' a specialist useage, and if so should it be explained here? 
Although I guessed it's likely meaning, I needed to look it up to confirm (='tinge' or 'shade'?). I suppose it's a question of expected reader literacy, but personally I wouldn't expect most readers to be confident of what is meant in this context. 
But I could well be wrong - anyone agree?
PS re. q from Kingturtle above, I did understand the phrase to mean one of the oldest used by man, but I agree perhaps this could be clearer.
Garrog 11:11, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar usage query 

message: If I find the chemical formula of lapis lazuli in a book and I put it in the article, would I have to cite the source? Because I found it in a book somewhere. Evan Robidoux 10:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes please. Verifiability is crucial to the development of wikipedias reputation as an accurate source of information.SauliH 01:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical formula 

message: With the passing of the Composer Gian Carlo Menotti this week (2.1.2007) it might be appropos to include a reference to Lapis Lazuli in his Television Opera Amahl and the Night Visitors one of the Kings, Casper, I believe, sings about one of the drawers of the box he carries with him to ward off disease, evil and danger and includes a reference to " One Lapis Lazuli against quaterne(sp?) fever"Wenshott 22:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Menotti 

message: What's name for Lapis Lazuli in any Indian language ?  Is it panna  normally speken together with Diamond as Heera - Panna ?  WIN 07:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian name for Lapis Lazuli 

message: Can we have a picture with a pencil or some other thing used to denote the scale? Thanks.--0rrAvenger 01:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scale? 

message: I have moved some links from the References section to External links, as they were not used as references. Additionally, I have removed the following links:
:Peter Bancroft, Lapis Lazuli from Afghanistan in Gem and Crystal Treasures (1984) Western Enterprises/Mineralogical Record, Fallbrook, CA - Palagems information page
:Emporia.edu What is it?
The first link was to a site that primarily sells products, and is therefore inappropriate. The second link was to an undergraduate student's presentation which is of questionable value when industry sources are available for citation. Maralia 17:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup of references and external links

message: Can someone who knows how the phrase "lapis lazuli" is pronounced please provide a pronunciation guide? I.e. is it LAY-pis LA-zoo-lee? LA-pis la-ZOO-lie? Something that's a mixture of the two? I can translate it into IPA for the article if someone can provide a layman's pronunciation here. Chaoticfluffy (talk) 20:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: LA-pis LAZoo-lie (as in untruth) is mostly what I hear at gem shows & such (SW-US). --Pete Tillman (talk) 03:33, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Maybe a Popular Culture section should be added for things that reference the stone in a large way such as Minecraft and how it uses the gem as a dye for wool. 98.240.134.219 (talk) 00:43, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe not ... there is already a section for uses and we don't need a trivia list. Vsmith (talk) 01:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We wouldn't necessarily need a list, because I've seen plenty of "Popular Culture" sections written in a nice essay-type form. Beyond that, however, we would need sources AND more instances of lapis lazuli in popular culture. Venku Tur'Mukan (talk) 03:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would wager, in many countries, that lapis lazuli is better known because of Minecraft than for any other reason (guilty as charged). I agree that it may be worth mentioning. Rip-Saw (talk) 00:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially now that lapis is used as more than a dye, since it's required for enchanting. 70.15.250.19 (talk) 17:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget stained clay!  99.245.142.228 (talk) 21:04, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

text: I think it would be worthwhile to start a talkpage list of appearances in pop culture, so far we have Minecraft and Steven Universe. Regicide1 (talk) 14:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture 

message: The article needs the following information-- "How is it formed/created in nature?"
205.169.70.175 (talk) 23:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: (10 years later) The article still needs the following information-- "How is it formed/created in nature?" And why does it occur in large quantities mainly in Afghanistan and only a few other places in the world? This is basic information that should have been included since the original version of this article, but was ignored/neglected for a full decade now. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: FORMATION/ What Creates It In Nature? (Article Needs A Section On This)

message: The first half of the article seems to suggest that LL was (pre)historically won in and traded from Afghanistan, and "even" goes as far as to suggest that LL sourced in Afghanistan was traded all the way from there to Mauritania (West Africa). The second half of the article suggests that LL is being produced all over the world, and not just Afghanistan. This casts doubt on the earlier claim that all Ancient LL is Afghan.--JeR (talk) 09:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afghanistan? 

message: This article says that the Egyptians obtained lapis lazuli via trade with “Aryans.” “Aryans“ is a racially-charged term, as it tends to be treated as a synonym for ”Caucasians.”
The term “Indo-European” is the generally preferred substitute for “Aryans,” as it is more widely (and correctly) understood as referring to a language family rather than to race.
I don’t know how to correct this section, however, since in order to do so I would need to know the specific nation or ethnic group who provided the lapis to the Egyptians.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valerie voigt (talk • contribs) 20:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Aryan is not a race nor a synonym to Caucasian. It’s another word for the more widely accepted “Iranian peoples” or iranic. They were a branch of the Indo-European people. 99.247.39.205 (talk) 02:22, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Terms