Talk:Ed the Sock

message: Just adding a note. If you Google Ed the Sock and/or Steven Kerzner, you'll find him taking credit for any puppet with "attitude" that followed his Ed puppet. He ignores the fact that Jim Henson had a cigarette-smoking SOCK puppet in "Sam and Friends," back in 1955; had hard-drinking, angry Muppets on Saturday Night Live in the 1970s, and even ALF, from 1986, had a bit of an edge to him. Ed's fans come in here and change the history. The fact is, Ed the Sock is a minor character which, after being on national Canadian television for over 13 years, isn't a property of interest outside of Canada and its local Toronto audience. Kerzner claims that he beats The Tonight Show and The Late Show in the ratings, but only in Toronto, and only on the only night he is on, which is Friday. His local audience generates a ratings spike, but he is not beating the big shows, since he isn't there to compete with them 5 nights a week, nor has he ever produced a full week of shows in his entire career. His is a weekly show, not a weeknight show.
His weak website speaks for itself, considering the length of time he's been on Canadian TV:
http://www.edthesock.com/
* Last I checked, Wikipedia required you to sign your work. This 'Talk Page' is about the content of the information page it's connected to, not a soapbox to voice an opinion. Please add citations to validate your opinions.
Thebladededge (talk) 21:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: During my edit re: Fromage I put back the wikilink to Kerzner since it is now showing as a red link, as opposed to a self-referencing redirect which is was before. 23skidoo 22:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Kerzner link

message: ???
:Steve prefers to keep the focus on Ed. I once saw an article on his work with Ed in the Toronto Star (I believe) that obviously was endorsed by Steve, but I'm personally reluctant to include any details. --The GATEKeeper 04:47, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any actual information on Steven, not his character? 

message: The first paragraph seems a bit overboard on the anti-Ed commentary, and the rest of the article goes the other direction with a bit too much praise.  The entire thing needs to be reworded to more neutral language. Powers 15:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see what's overboard in the first paragraph. The bit about being compared to Triumph should be moved down, I'll agree there, but I don't see an NPOV issue in the first paragraph. What statements in particular concern you? 23skidoo 18:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I took another look, it's not as bad as it seemed at first (the first paragraph, that is).  I think what bugs me most is the final clause; it just seems to be trying too hard to discredit Kerzner (especially considering Kerzner hasn't even been mentioned yet).  I think that last clause could be removed with much detriment to the article.  But that's a minor issue, admittedly.  Powers 22:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Whenever you leave an encyclopedia open to the public, things can get odd. Google "Ed the Sock" and you get numerous claims from his creator, Kerzner, that Triumph the insult dog is a rip-off of his sock.
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/02/14/347102.html
http://www.counterbias.com/003.html
"Triumph the puppet pooch popped up. "'Don't even talk to me about that piece of crap. Ripoff. It's amazing" Ed the Sock snapped.'"
http://www.mavericktimes.com/edthesock.html
Just look at a pic of Don Rickles, with his bow tie, insults, and you have Triumph. Many comedians of the time had a cigar. Also, Conan O' Briend had a puppet on before Triumph; it was the NBC Peacock, a puppet representation of the NBC peacock logo. 
Ed owes a lot more to Sam and Friends than Triumph owes to Ed. Kerzner threatened to sue NBC, but he never did it. He ejoys badmouthing them, but doesn't have the guts to follow through. 
Whoever has the final say, would you please leave out the material which claims Trumph is a rip off of Ed if you're going to remove the Sam and Friends material? Is that fair enough?
I think some of that stuff is part of Kerzner/Ed the Socks humour, talking big, swearing and getting annoyed at things etc. Also, part of that #1 thing is we had some voting thing afew years ago "whoes the most popular Late Night host" or something, all I remember is the advertisements in the subway. Highlandlord 02:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Henson fan 

message: "It is fairly common for Canadian fiscal conservatives to also be socially moderate or liberal."
What the heck is this doing in here? This is a commonality, this is the what the Conservative Party of Canada stands for. It's like saying "American fiscal conservatives are commonly socially conservative, as well."
It really bothers me that this has to be included as a Canadiana factoid, and America really seems to be the only country who would need this frivolous bit of information. Canada has four or five major parties (Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, Greens, BQ), America has two. It should be obvious that you shouldn't judge a person simply by the name of the party they prefer. Yeesh. Plus, if you cram everyone as "conservative" and "liberal" you're saying that there are only two wholly-reaching points of view which you could possibly adopt.
It's Wikipedia.org, not Wikipedia.us. This really has no business being in here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.244.18 (talk) 23:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AMERICAN point of view?

message: All these years she has been shacking up with Ed"? No wonder they make such a good pair. O can honestly say all these years I had no idea. NONE! LOVE YOU ED!!! 24.86.117.175 (talk) 06:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liana 

message: Ed's Nite In is of questionable value as a stand-alone article, at least in its present incarnation. It's a short-lived series of unspecified frequency. Article is also unsourced, which makes it difficult to discern the duration of this series. Article says it aired for 3 years, but 1) Can this be sourced? 2) Was it a weekly series? Daily? Where are the references? Article is unlikely to be expanded in any significant way and it has drawn the attention of a disruptive user who is only here to engage in timesucking. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:10, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed and  Klbrain (talk) 17:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Ed's Nite In]] 

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message: ...on the grounds that the subject is an admitted sock puppet. We have ways of dealing with his type around here. Laodah 08:10, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: This page should be deleted