Talk:Tetraodontidae

message: That's not a pufferfish, it is a porcupine fish.  The picture should be moved, which is easy enough to do, but...shouldn't the picture also be renamed?
OK, now and is added to the new Porcupinefish page with the correct name. --Alan Millar
The picture appears to be back. This image also doesn't have any copyright info on it. Should it be removed? Aqua
Aren't porcupine fish a kind of pufferfish? 61.230.79.242 10:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: Why isn't the species list in the taxobox? Rmhermen 15:50, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
:Not sure. The latest edit with the species in the box is by me (00:31, 12 Mar 2004), but UtherSRG  moved it outside while editing the taxobox. I guess either way has its merit, althogh I think its nicer to have it in the box. In any case I would like to thank UtherSRG for his work making the taxobox more standardized. Nice work! -- chris_73 16:13, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Species List

message: Is this not the source of one of the toxins used in zombification? If so, I think it ought to be mentioned, along with an explanation of why the toxin is "useful" for this purpose. Are there any other "uses" of the toxin? Medical maybe? ww 13:48, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I expanded the section with info from Zombie. It is reported that pufferfish are used to make zombies, but the info is not verified. I did not find a medical use except for one claim that stuff in a noni fruit is similar to the fugu poison, but not poisonous. And, supposedly, eating the poison and the noni stuff together improves health . But I wont start eating fugu liver anytime soon.  -- Chris 73 | Talk 14:45, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I was pretty sure this whole pufferfish-zombie idea was disproven a while ago. Something like, the region in which this zombification supposedly took place didn't have any puffers, or didn't have toxic puffers, or didn't have puffers with the right kind of toxin, or something along those lines. 71.217.98.158 19:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: pufferfish in zombification

message: Revth: What's a mass garbage burial site? Do you mean a mass burial site of human remains or sort of an antique garbage dump? -- Chris 73 | Talk 08:16, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: mass garbage burial site

message: I understand the toxin causes paralysis, which leads to asphyxiation (no movements of the lungs). However, does it also stop the heart? What is the treatment? (I suspect that it's possible to prevent asphyxiation using a iron lung... but it's probably trickier to deal with a paralyzed heart.) David.Monniaux 08:39, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Toxin

message: I think this featured article would be a good addition to the following ODP cats:
* http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Flora_and_Fauna/Animalia/Chordata/Fish/Bony/Tetraodontiformes/
* http://dmoz.org/Kids_and_Teens/School_Time/Science/Living_Things/Animals/Fish/Saltwater/Pufferfish/
... perhaps described as ...
* Wikipedia: Pufferfish Also known as blowfish or fugu. Provides consumption history, poisoning, social aspects, availability and species table.
Comments on category and description appreciated. -- sabre23t 02:24, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. Can you add it to the list? -- Chris 73 | Talk 02:32, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, to the first cat. Can forward for review for the second cat. -- sabre23t 02:44, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: ODP

message: Why is the pufferfish in this category?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Venomous_animals
As I understand it, puffers are toxic, not venomous.
Cheers,
Neale Monks 15:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  category: venomous animals 

message: Found this paragraph in the fugu article....
Previously, it was unknown how pufferfish inflation took place. Recently, however, Dr. Peter Wainwright completed his analysis on the series of muscle actions which allow a pufferfish to inflate. First, the pufferfish fills its mouth with water. Then, it seals its mouth using a special valve at the bottom of the mouth. This valve flaps upward and covers the entire mouth of the fish. Next, a branchiostegal ray (a modified gill arch) pushes the water down the esophagus into the stomach. The extremely elastic stomach then expands. Depending on the species the fugu can achieve an almost perfect spherical shape.
and also, much of that article is copied directly from this one.... a bit of redistribution needs to be done, i guess. meepin out. Blueaster 04:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the fugu article 

message: the part about tetrodotoxin should be in a separate article, and i agree with someone else who said that it should be more explicit. How does it kill exactly, how long does it take to kill etc. And a better picture wouldn't hurt either.
The puffer fish is described as the second most poisonous vertebrate, but elsewhere http://www.petplace.com/fish/the-stonefish-the-deadliest-fish-in-the-world/page1.aspx among other places the stonefish is described as the most poisonous fish. Often they are both described this way on the same page. If the stonefish is the most poisonous fish, and the stonefish is a vertebrate, then surely it follows that the stonefish is more poisonous than the puffer fish, especially since as elsewhere described in this article the puffer fish itself is not the producer of the toxins, it's a matter of bateria. Gampgamp (talk) 09:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not clear... 

message: Seems to be some confusion as to what lists should be in the article.  It seems to me that the (linked) Genera should be listed in the Taxobox, & no list, either Genera or Species, should be in the body of the article.  There would be just too many . Species can be found in the individual Genera articles.  Any consensus?  GrahamBould 08:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks great to me. BFD1 11:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Genera/Species

message: It's true! Darwin records it in The Voyage Of The Beagle! Dora Nichov 12:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chewing Out Of Sharks

message: Shouldnt this article be called the Tetraodontidae. Not all species within the family are referred to as pufferfish. For example - both species of Tetractenos and Amblyrhynchotes are known commonly as toadfish (at least in Australia) - where "pufferfish" (again in Australia) refers to fish that can inflate their body including Porcupinefish. Thoughts? My view would be the pufferfish article should say what "pufferfish" is - ie: an arbitrary group of fishes which can inflate their body. It's not (in my opinion) a good title for a family article. MidgleyDJ 19:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. In British English, some of these fish are known as pufferfish, puffers, tobies, toadies, fugus, and probably other names I'm not aware of. Neale Monks 20:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me -- Chris 73 | Talk 21:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, never happy with vague term pufferfish. GrahamBould 09:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Excellent work Chris!! Should we also make pufferfish a stand alone disambiguation page - rather than a redirect? MidgleyDJ 09:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. Unsure about this (meaning neither oppose nor support). Shall we wait for a few more comments? -- Chris 73 | Talk 09:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done some re-jigging of Fugu and Takifugu for similar reasons. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 11:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming?

message: I've hived off all the cartoon characters and whatnot to their own page. They don't really add anything to an article about biology, and a separate page gets rid of the overlong trivia section, which is now limited to scientific factoids. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 23:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pufferfish in popular culture]] 

message: Not all pufferfish contain toxins, and not all the toxic pufferfish contain tetrodotoxin, not all get the toxin from bacteria, and not all have the toxin in the same places. Toxic freshwater pufferfish contain saxitoxin that they get from algae (dinoflagellates, I believe). The information below is from Ebert (2001).
         	Marine puffers                                   	Freshwater puffers
Toxin:   	Tetrodotoxin                                     	Saxitoxin
Source:  	Bacteria                                         	Unicellular algae
Location:	Liver and ovaries (very small amounts in muscles)	Skin (not internal organs)
Example: 	Arothron hispidus                                	Colomesus asellus
Cheers, Neale —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neale Monks (talk • contribs) 22:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  toxin section is contradictory and wrong 

message: I moved the paragraph about the drug to its own subsection. But maybe it should be removed together. This is an article about a fish, not about a toxin. I find it very unlikely that the fish has anything to do with the drug development. This toxin is not exclusive to this genus.Yobmod (talk) 15:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Drug development

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message: puffer fish love peanut butter but it will kill the puffer fish once it touches their lips  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.43.131 (talk) 19:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: There should be a section talking about pufferfish in popular culture. Some examples include Mrs. Puff from SpongeBob SquarePants, Bloat from Finding Nemo, and let's not forget the video of a pufferfish eating a carrot.--24.44.76.88 (talk) 18:31, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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