Talk:Verbal Behavior

message: "A child comes into his parents' bedroom and night and says "I think I am sick." The mother takes the child and brings him to a hospital."
The example doesn't make it clear that it is the autoclitic "I think" I am sick that is operational, rather it appears to be simply a softened version of the mand "I am sick!" which, for someone not familiar with mands, would be slightly less than clear. 
Providing several excellent examples is a very good method to enhance discrimination of these subtle points and I think this should be continued and improved. florkle (talk) 03:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  autoclitics 

message: Damn it's good. Nice tables. I am not a fan of the "ABC" model (which I am inferring since I don't speak german) as I don't feel it conveys the richness of the MO->Sd->R->Sr+ relationships but it is common. The page has a nice layout, not too much emphasis &c. It would be a good model for this page I think. Will have to work on it. --Michaelrayw2 (talk) 10:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: German language page

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Fixed,  Michaelrayw2 (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements

message: Hi all, I brought in the nice table from the German article on this subject. Maybe someone could go to the original citation and get the actual original English, rather than my retranslation?
Canjo (talk) 06:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brought in table from German page 

message: I have just read this article, on October 28, 2011.  Given the way the article appeared to be in revision, I am surprised to find that the last edits seem to be at least two years old.  I was looking forward to helping edit and clarify it, but I last read "Verbal Behavior" in 1974, just before defending a Master's thesis on Skinner's philosophical position, and so I am pretty rusty.  However, I am pleased to see a piece of work which gives a detailed description of Skinner's efforts on this subject, as almost every thing I have ever seen on this subject simply assumes that Chomsky had demolished it.  I agree with the writer of this article, (and with MacCorquodale,) that Chomsky did not adequately understand the language of behaviorism, and that he did not appreciate the scope of what Skinner was doing: -- that Skinner was not just attempting to reformulate the subject matter of grammar.  I would look forward to interaction with others who are interested in this topic.  
My master's thesis was called "B.F. Skinner's Concept of Mind" (1974) and it is archived on microfiche at the University of Calgary, Canada.  I don't know how hard it is to get access to a readable copy, so if anyone wants to read it, I would undertake to provide access.  It was written before wordprocessors (!) and the style is not like current academic writing -- I had been reading Gilbert Ryle at the time, and I used a similar style of discussion.  However, I stand by the conclusions and the arguments, which were that Skinner's and Ryle's views of 'mental' phenomena were essentially the same, and able to be 'translated' back and forth fairly easily.  jvian@telusplanet.net  Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 02:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article was essentially a bit of Chomsky propaganda before I rewrote it (more than 2 years ago I believe, look at the early versions if you want a laugh). I have no active plans to support this page, but I might do so (in 2012). I was thinking of working on another page. There's alot of verbal behavior research  in the jouranl The Analysis of Verbal Behavior which probably could use some incorporation.  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/journals/609/. That's where I'd go with this. I have no familiarity with Gilbert Ryle.  -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.35.50 (talk) 19:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  And it's 2013 and I'll probably give this page a few edits. florkle (talk) 21:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011  Is Anyone Working on this Article? 

message: This might well be just a TYPO or something minor like that. 
In the section Verbal Behavior#Multiple causation, the last sentence begins with the words "Combing audiences".  Wouldn't that more correctly be written as "Combining audiences"?   Note that the previous sentence starts out with "The issue of multiple audiences [...]".  Plus, [note that] the whole section is entitled "Multiple causation". 
Just my 0.02.  I could be wrong.  --Mike Schwartz (talk) 22:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Combining audiences" instead of "Combing audiences"* -- (right?)  

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message: In the "General problems" section, why was the name "Chomsky" chosen out of all the words in the language? If it is merely used as an example, many other words could be used. There seems to be an intention to inject the name into the article for a reason.173.72.63.96 (talk) 15:49, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The verbal behavior that is evident in the repeated use of Chomsky's name should be explainable, according to Behaviorism,  without the mentalistic mention of such words such as "chosen," "intention," "reason," and "purposive."173.72.63.96 (talk) 22:47, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Purposive use of proper name

message: The section  suggests to me that Verbal behaviorism as a field of study may be a notable topic in its own right. Really, this is less of a proposal to split and more a proposal to write a new article. I've made a note to myself to write one, but feel free to beat me to it. Daask (talk) 00:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split field of study from book article