Talk:Mediatisation

message: The article claims that "Morganatic marriage does not exist in English law, and the British royal family and British aristocracy, while traditionally concerned with rank, often adopted a far more flexible attitude"
However, in article Princess_Louise%2C_Duchess_of_Argyll we find this:
"Louise viewed marriage to any prince as undesirable, and announced that she wished to marry John Campbell, the Marquess of Lorne, heir to the Duke of Argyll. No such marriage, between a daughter of a Sovereign and a British subject, had been given official recognition since 1515, when Charles Brandon, the first Duke of Suffolk, married Mary Tudor.[3] "
It seems that, barring new references to support the claims in Mediatization, the claims about the attitudes of the UK monarchy that are not supported.  Four hundred years without a recognized marriage between a royal and subject, does not support the claim of the royals specifically having "often adopted a far more flexible attitude".  Perhaps the paragrpah needs to be edited to speak solely about the aristocracy and NOT the royals.
Paulc206 (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attitudes in the UK 

message: I think the page Mediatization should be renamed Mediatization (history), and the phrase 'defined broadly' should be removed, as it wrongly gives the impression that this is the most common use of the noun 'mediatization'. In the English language, few have heard of this originally German historical concept.
Patrick Kinsella 12:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have moved your contributions to Mediatization (media) and restored the old content. This article has about 40 backlinks (see here): all of them are related to princely states, none are related to media studies. -- Petri Krohn 02:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The new article Mediatization (media) is still orphan, lacking any backlinks in article space. You should start by inserting links to relevant articles. So far, I see no proof that media studies is the main use of the word mediatization. -- Petri Krohn 00:04, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Disagree that there appears to be a "German" trying to "create an English word": the term is obscure in English, whether referring to communications or to historical geo-politics. What evidence is there that the word refers more to media than to diplomacy? FactStraight (talk) 07:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: "This is one of the reasons why so many monarchs married German princes: German mediatised families were especially abundant."
This is a very strange statement.  How many "monarchs" married German princes ?  Hardly any!  Queen Victoria of the UK, yes,  and who else ?   Perhaps it should state that "so many monarchs married German princesses".Eregli bob (talk) 14:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd statement 

message: Broadly defined it is the subsumption of one monarchy into another monarchy in such a way that the ruler of the annexed state keeps his sovereign title and, sometimes, a measure of local power.
I'm not sure the word "monarchy" covers the whole spectrum. Dozens of city-states with a republican form of government were mediatized in Germany. Wouldn't "subsumption of one state into another state" be a more adequate broad definition?--Lubiesque (talk) 12:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  monarchy? 

message: I realize they're both acceptable variants in usage, however shouldn't Wikipedia attempt to be consistent about it?
This article uses "s", but the article discussing its use in the Holy Roman Empire uses "z".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.189.82 (talk) 23:54, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  mediatization or mediatisation? 

message: The only reference on this article is currently Lundby (2009). However, Lundby writes about the different topic of Mediatization (media). Hence, this article has no valid references. Agnerf (talk) 07:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong reference 

message: I propose that this article be deleted by redirection to German mediatisation. After bots have redirected all incoming links, this article may be changed to a disambiguation page or a redirection to Mediatization (media). Agnerf (talk) 11:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This should have been done a long time ago. --Lubiesque (talk) 16:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

text: I have redirected the many incoming links to this page, most of them to German mediatisation, a few to Mediatization (media). Links from talk pages remain. 'Mediatisation' now redirects to a disambiguation page. Agnerf (talk) 06:18, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion