Talk:Take-Two Interactive

message: So, I was reading some Annual Reports and, in 1996, TTWO bought GameTek UK. They also bought TDK. Both those companies «published» video games and, since we inserted Jack of All Games and Take-Two Licensing, I think we should put TTWO Europe in there and insert in the Games list all games published by each one of them. What do you think? Should we do it or not?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouHateThePlayer (talk • contribs) 19:28, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: To your question: I think we should only include games (or, specific franchises) that are key to the company, and were published under their ownership. If TDK Mediactive (the TDK interactive division) or GameTek UK released any notable franchises under TTWOs management, those should be added. Also adding to your acuqisition statement, around the same time, TTWO acquired GameTek's Canadian subsidiary which is now known as Rockstar Toronto. Lordtobi (✉) 19:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need Help 

message: Two things on the subsidiary table :
* First, we should have the table basically have three main rows: Rockstar Games, 2K Games, and Private Division. The divisions after that are all hierarchical , as I read it (eg: Firaxis reports to 2K Games, not to Take-Two; Rockstar North reports to Rockstar Games, etc.). These other studios can be rows underneath it. EG have the first column be the main divisions, use rowspans to group the other studios as necessary.
* In the Notes column, or in a new column, a brief summary of watch each division is known for should be given.
This last point should be replicated in the defunct studio list too. --Masem (t) 00:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subsidary suggestion 

message: First of all, I would like to thank everyone who's been editing Take-Two Interactive Software's page, especially since I've «cleaned» the subsidiaries section.
I like the way it is now, but I think we should do some changes:
1. In the «Formally Called» section, should only be the names after TTWO's acquisition (i.e: 2K Australia - Became 2K Marin in 2010, etc...)
2. Should add the studios logos. I don't know why, but when I go the Rockstar Games page, I love to the the studio's logo in the column, but unfortunately we don't have the rights to most of the logos.
3. I know Social Point has studios in Japan and Parrot Games, but there are zero articles refering to them, so please try not to add them.
Once again, thank you all for the edits. This community is amazing and it's only because of you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouHateThePlayer (talk • contribs) 00:30, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Edits 

message: GSG is under the 2K umbrella, though they are otherwise self-publishing. Here is a June 2018 (the latest I could find) that confirmed GSG is founded under 2K. --Masem (t) 13:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: While I agree Ghost Story should be listed under 2K, I belive the corresponding section from the source you linked talks about how Ghost Story was founded by Take-Two, not 2K. Lordtobi (✉) 13:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's what I meant, it is a Take-Two owned company, their relationship with 2K Games is a bit less clear. But all the removals of it from this article are improper. It should be listed as a development studio (let's not assume publisher at this point). --Masem (t) 14:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, well the high talking point appeared to me as whether Ghost Story is to be listed indepdenently (like Social Point) or as part of 2K. I also assumed you were addressing this given from your introduction "GSG is under the 2K umbrella". Removal was out of question at all times. Lordtobi (✉) 14:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was trying to figure out what the editing war going on here was - it was being removed from the infobox, added to publishers, removed alltogether. I would reasonably expect it does sit under 2K at Take-Two since 2K Games is the umbrella for non-Rockstar, non-Sports studios, where Irrational sat when it was legit. --Masem (t) 14:08, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I just want to point out, you can literally send an email to Ghost Story's community manager, he will tell you that they're a self-publishing studio for T2. Even their official website and Twitter account says they're a self-publishing studio. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 06:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Self-publishing does not mean that they are not part of a corporate structure. E.g. Thunderful encapsulates two development studios and a publishing office, all three act independently but at organized under that company. Irrational Games had been part of 2K since 2006 so it would only make sense that Ghost Story Games (same legal entity, renamed) is also part of that, even if they publish themselves. Aside from that, they have not self-published anything thus far to support their statement. Lordtobi (✉) 07:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

text: Long standing issue with editors of video game companies is this idea that publishing relationships are the same as corporate reporting structures. Whether Ghost Story Games publishes themselves, or 2K publishes them, is irrelevant to the corporate reporting structure. -- ferret (talk) 11:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Until Ghost Story announces their next game, we should remove Ghost Story from T2's subsidiaries list, just for a little while. Yes, Ghost Story is a T2 developer, not a 2K developer, but if you guys won't accept that fact, it's best to just remove it. There's no mention of Ghost Story being a 2K developer, so the information is plain wrong regardless. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 02:20, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing it outright sounds rather irrational. Lordtobi (✉) 07:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: How is leaving it without direct evidence that it's a 2K studio rational? UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 07:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See above arguments. Lordtobi (✉) 09:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I already did, and none of them are logical at all. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghost Story Games 

message: Don't worry, we don't have to implement this information into the main page, but I will list all of the confirmed studios and business offices under the T2 umbrella, just so everyone knows:
Take-Two Interactive (New York, New York) (Main Headquarters)
*Take-Two Interactive Software Europe (Windsor, England) (European Operations)
*Take-Two Asia (Singapore) (Asian Operations)
2K (Novato, CA) (Main Headquarters)
*2K International (Windsor, England) (International Publishing Headquarters)
**2K MoCap (Petaluma, California) (Motion Capture Studio)
**2K Games (Novato, California) (Division)
***2K China (Chengdu, China) (Quality Assurance Studio)
***2K Silicon Valley (Name: TBA) (Location: TBA)
***2K Vegas (Nevada) (Quality Assurance Studio)
***Firaxis Games (Sparks, Maryland)
***Hangar 13 (Novato, California)
****Hangar 13 Czech
*****Hangar 13 Brno (Czech Republic)
*****Hangar 13 Prague (Czech Republic)
****Hangar 13 UK (Brighton, England)
***TBA (Novato, California) (Parkside Team / New Bioshock Studio)
**2K Play (Novato, California) (Division)
***Cat Daddy Games (Kirkland, Washington)
***Mass Media Games (Moorpark, California) 
**2K Sports (Novato, California) (Division)
***Visual Concepts (Novato, California)
****Visual Concepts Asia (Korea & China Studios consolidated)
*****Visual Concepts Korea (Seoul)
*****Visual Concepts China (Shanghai)
****Visual Concepts Hungary (Budapest)
****Visual Concepts LA (Agoura Hills, California)
****Visual Concepts South (Foothill Ranch, California)
Ghost Story Games (Westwood, Massachusetts)
*Ghost Story International (Oxford, England) (Speculated) (T2 is leasing land in Oxford)
Private Division (New York, New York)
*Private Division (Las Vegas, Nevada)
*Private Division (Munich, Germany)
*Private Division (Seattle, Washington)
Rockstar Games (Rockstar New York / Rockstar NY / Rockstar NYC) (New York, New York) (Main Headquarters)
*Rockstar MoCap (Bethpage, New York) (Motion Capture Studio)
*Rockstar Studios (Global) (All studios consolidated)
**Rockstar India (Bangalore, India)
**Rockstar Leeds (England)
**Rockstar Lincoln (England) (Quality Assurance Studio)
**Rockstar London (England)
***Rockstar International (London, England) (International Publishing Headquarters)
**Rockstar New England (Ballardvale, Massachusetts)
**Rockstar North (Edinburgh, Scotland)
**Rockstar San Diego (Carlsbad, California)
***RAGE Technology Group (Division)
**Rockstar Toronto (Oakville, Ontario)
Social Point (Barcelona, Spain)
*Parrot Games (Barcelona, Spain)
*Social Point International (Tokyo, Japan) (Speculated) (Social Point has an office in Tokyo)
Business Offices (Most names are made up, but they're close to their originals names)
*Take-Two Asia (Singapore)
*Take-Two Boston (Massachusetts)
*Take-Two Interactive (New York, New York)
*Take-Two Interactive Australia (Sydney)
**Take-Two Interactive Australia (Auckland, New Zealand) (T2 is leasing land in Auckland, T2 Australia handles business in New Zealand though)
*Take-Two Interactive Benelux (Breda)
*Take-Two Interactive Canada (Toronto)
*Take-Two Interactive China (Shanghai)
*Take-Two Interactive Espana (Madrid)
*Take-Two Interactive France (Paris)
*Take-Two Interactive Germany (Munich)
*Take-Two Interactive Japan (Tokyo)
*Take-Two Interactive Korea (Seoul)
*Take-Two Interactive Software Europe (Windsor, England)
*Take-Two Interactive Switzerland (Lucerne)
*Take-Two Interactive Taiwan (Taipei)
*Take-Two Seattle (Washington)
*Take-Two Vegas (Nevada)
UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Studios and Offices 

message: So I've been going over T2's 2018 Annual Report, and I was glancing at their properties section (leasing properties) and noticed that they're leasing some property in Oxford, England. What do you guys think it is? UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 01:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Likely nothing of interest for an encyclopedia that relies on secondary sources. Lordtobi (✉) 05:27, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd assume it's Ghost Story Games' international publishing headquarters, just like I assumed Social Point's Japan office was the same thing. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 09:25, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately, we have a policy against making assumptions. -- ferret (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately, I just wanted to read what you guys thought the location could be, not that I was going to implement it into the main page. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 03:41, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that article talk pages are used to discuss changes to the article. You are free to chat with others, but please not on articles' talk pages per WP:NOTAFORUM. Lordtobi (✉) 05:21, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There's literally nowhere else to discuss this. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 21:30, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take-Two Interactive (Oxford, England) 

message: Here: http://archive.fortune.com/2008/06/03/news/newsmakers/boyd_brant.fortune/index.htm. Thanks. BBMatBlood (talk) 21:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The article presently says that he left in October 2006, backed by a source published on October 18. Lordtobi (✉) 05:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think the founder left in 2006 not 2008 

message: Excellent addition/retooling Masem. I think in future it could be expanded a little more but this is great. Thanks. BBMatBlood (talk) 02:52, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Holdings 

message: On 2K's careers site, they have Mass Media listed among their studios, which indicates that the studio was acquired by 2K. Still waiting on T2 or other social media outlets to officially confirm this: https://chp.tbe.taleo.net/chp04/ats/careers/v2/searchResults?org=GAMES2K&cws=68
Remember, Mass Media assisted Hangar 13 with the PS4 version of Mafia III, and they're currently developing a new entry in the Carnival Games series, which releases next week, so this acquisition is no surprise. Mass Media will most likely become a 2K Play subsidiary. UnknownAssassin1819 (talk) 22:35, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Mass Media does not appear on Take2's subsidiaries list (this one from their 10-K filed in March), and David Todd's LinkedIn statements (just saying "2K Games", that is) are merely vague indications. Might well be that 2K acquired Mass Media sometime last year, but without clear (verbatim) claims on the matter, we should not jump to any conclusions. Lordtobi (✉) 10:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2K has acquired Mass Media Games 

message: Should this be adressed on the main article, on History > 2008–present: Continued growth > 15th paragraph?
How should it be adressed?
PC gamer article - forbes.com article - YongYea video report  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.173.36.59 (talk) 03:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: YongYea and Forbes (contributors) are not reliable, but we would probably use the original Bloomberg article anyway. That said, though, this already detailed on Private Division, Star Theory Games, and Kerbal Space Program 2, so I'm not sure whether we need a fourth copy here. IMO, label-specific controversies should be organized to the respective articles. If we did include it here, we would have to expand the scope to all major controversies from all labels. Not sure how to go about this right now. IceWelder [✉] 04:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: And outside the brief repeating of the Bloomberg article, I've not seen much else on this story, so to call it a "controversy" would be wrong. People went "Hmmm, maybe the devs were poached" but that was it. So we really can't go much more into it without further commentary from reliable sources. --Masem (t) 04:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take-Two Interactive moving development of KSP 2 to in-game division Intercept Games Controversy