Talk:Savannah College of Art and Design

message: Not sure how notable some of these grads are.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.66.241 (talk) 01:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The list does seem rather insignificant, especially compared to some of the other internationally renowned professors and grads.  Skiendog (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: It says right there in the article, one of them is CPR Certified. You have to admit, for an overt advertisement, this whole Wikipedia article is well-written.2604:E880:2:4:E:0:0:3 (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  At least the faculty is notable 

message: Im going to SCAD - atlanta and part of the ITGM program, we had the GDX (Game Developers Exchange) last may and are haveing it again this year, it was a huge success with over 500 people attending with industry professionals, i think that this event is worth mention as it is SCAD hosted and run, there is a site as well from the scad site. Game development students (including myself) are making a game for all the attendees to play and i think this event would be legitimate to add to the festival section, anyone disagree?Tik 17:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDX noteworthy 

message: Was Montgomery Hall a coffin factory? That would be much more interesting than a carriage factory which the college constantly refers to in printed and online documents.[Unknown author]
: I, too have heard this.  i heard that it was originally a carriage factory, made coffins for a little while, then made the "Doors", "Cabinets", and whatever else reamins on the front of that side building.  Skiendog (talk) 20:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monty Hall 

message: Many students and faculty feel that the school is expanding too fast and question the motives of the omnipotent President.
I agree about the expansion, but I have no idea how wide spread that sentiment is nor do I think it is very relevant to the article. The Pres is hardly omnipotent. She is accountable to the board. 'Sides, she founded the school along with the Poeters and Rowan. Being that she founded the school with her money and the school is a non-profit organization- just what ill motives are you attributing to her? Seems to me her motives are pure and grievances should be leveled at how she executes her job.
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I heard that SCAD is part for-profit. Is that true?
YES. SCAD has two sides... SCAD and SCAD Group Inc. The latter is for profit. If you dig around on the website you can find an organizational chart about which department falls under which group. For example, residence life is a part of SCAD, and the communications department is part of SCAD Group Inc. 
While I was a student there, a separate organization for building restoration and investment into the downtown Savannah area was spun off (but I cannot remember what it is called... I'm pretty sure it has SCAD in the name) which is a for-profit investment business, but control of the business is retained by the board. Just FYI Rexmorgan 09:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure how valuable that would be. Every college and university has disgruntled students, faculty, alumni, etc. and has controversies about the way things are run. However, such issues are typically only of interest to the people who actually attend/work there - not of any historical significance or anything that should be included in the encyclopedia. Rexmorgan 09:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disgruntled 

message: Let's remember to alphabetize these, ok? notchcode 23:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faculty and Alumni section 

message: multiple programs/majors at SCAD have been ranked in the top five nationally (DesignIntelligence ranked the Interior Design program first in the nation--passing RISD and Parsons), i would like to see them included.  Major accomplishment for the school.  Skiendog (talk) 20:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  International recognition and rankings 

message: Let's try and keep the language of this section neutral. "Scramble for reaccreditation" is a good example of what we should avoid. - cohesion 14:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because, even with their connection to the school, they seem to be writing more objectively.  Skiendog (talk) 18:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

message: This article is NOT neutral. All mention of problems in the school's history is being deleted with, apparently, no explanation. It's obvious that this article is being monitored by a person or people connected to the school and determined to see it whitewashed. I notice that the links I added to articles not favorable to the school have ALL been removed, leaving mostly only articles that were produced by the school itself. If that's not skewing, I don't know what is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.214.137.8 (talk) 05:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear anon. Apologies, but I have reverted your changes (which are not vandalism, so I don't know why another user has called it that). The language you have used is far from neutral. It seems you are emotionally involved, and should either abstain from adding information to a topic you feel strongly about, or work extra hard to avoid promoting a particular point of view. The Neutral point of view policy is an essential part of Wikipedia and must be followed by all editors. I have no problem with the content you are adding (as you can see from my user page and contributions, I have no link to the college), just the way it is written. Somno (talk) 00:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Dear Somno, I do not understand why you have deleted my additions instead of editing them as you have indicated. In the time it took you to make this contribution to the talk page, you could have edited the article in the ways you suggest, and it appears to me that such editing is well within Wikipedia's acceptable protocols.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.214.128.146 (talk) 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have taken the time to explain it to you and help you become a more constructive editor. That is more important to me than fixing your additions. Somno (talk) 00:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article is not neutral; it is PR

message: This article should be deleted because 1. it was written entirely by people associated with the school, 2. all its proof comes from SCAD's website which is advertising 3. The article has been aggressively censored to prevent additional information being added which is not favorable to the school. Sincere efforts to improve the neutrality of this article have been removed without explanation, later referred to as "vandalism" and "obscenity," then reproved with wild accusations that the contributor is "too emotionally involved" with the subject—a violation of Wikipedia etiquette which says to "assume good faith." 4. the article is written like an ad. Notice the non-neutral use of "rich" in the first paragraph, "scenic" in the second paragraph, "visionary force" under the Richard Rowan paragraph. The phrase "an undeniable Southern-Gothic feel that is sought by the many movies filmed there" is shameless Chamber of Commerce copy. Where is the documentation that the labs are "well equipped" or that the classrooms are "ample"? Athletics section contains the phrase "vast offerings" which is copy that one would typically find only in a college brochure. The notable alumni section has been padded with some scarcely notable people. The notable faculty section is padded with some REALLY non-notable people. Finally, the external links refer ONLY to SCAD websites which are, I repeat, advertising.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.214.137.214 (talk • contribs) 
:Please add talk messages to the bottom of the talk page. I have moved this to the bottom. Also don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes (~). Somno (talk) 00:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing is stopping you from deleting this article if done in line with the deletion process. I have assumed good faith on your part, by not calling you a vandal (like others wrongly have) and taking time to explain policies. I personally believe that it's easier to not edit topics where I am emotionally involved, hence my advice. Regardless, I agree with you that the article is written like an advertisement and it irritates me too - I hate advertising, and if as you suggest, people from the college are sanitising the article, I'd say there's a conflict of interest in them editing this page. I suggest you take your own advice to me further up and fix it yourself, or follow through the deletion process as you've proposed. If people wrongly accuse you of vandalism, discuss it with them on their talk page or here, rather than reinserting the same info - I think that's the way to move forward with the article. I will keep an eye on the article too to watch out for conflicts of interest - as a neutral party, I hope you see me as an ally to the cause of neutrality, rather than one of those you believe to be whitewashing the article. :) Somno (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anon, these edits   are disruptive edits designed to make a point. They are not going to solve anything, and are likely to result in the article being protected and you being unable to edit it, which is not a desirable outcome. Please deal with the issue constructively - the template messages show readers that there are issues with the article, and some of the problems (for example, the flowery language you pointed out above) have been addressed. The editor(s) you say are responsible for denying events have not even edited recently. Somno (talk) 01:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article should be deleted; it is written like an ad.

message: Someone spammed the article David Spencer with a link to this one. Reverted but smells like some person trying to advertise the wrong way.
24.64.122.89 (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam to this article 

message: I note that neither the notable alumni section nor the notable faculty section includes Durwin Talon who has his own well-developed page on wikipedia. And he is both an alumnus and a professor of SCAD. He is certainly more notable than Craig Stevens who is included. I would edit the article to include him except that none of my previous edits have been allowed to stand. And nobody bothers to read the discussion page or respond to it either, so hard to know why I'm still wasting my time with this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.111.12 (talk • contribs) 
:All edits that comply with Wikipedia policies have not been removed. I also wonder why you're still "wasting" your time with this article - either follow the policies so your changes will stay, or move on. Perhaps "nobody bothers" to respond because your edits remain disruptive regardless of how much people try to help you understand how this encyclopedia works. Please prove me wrong this time by editing constructively. Somno (talk) 12:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durwin Talon is conspicuously absent 

message: The information added regarding the student protest and former instuctor's web site need a serious review for tone and POV. -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 22:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The user in question has had the neutral point of view policy explained to him/her several times over the past year or so, yet keeps resorting to disruptive editing. I used to hope he or she would eventually contribute constructively, but it's increasingly unlikely that will ever happen. Somno (talk) 12:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History section POV

message: Where is the citation for the notion that "established systems of tenure often do not reward quality teaching, because these systems can put minorities and women at a disadvantage"? I can assue you that this is a VERY eccentric notion in academia generally. The above statement is also not AT ALL neutral, as it basically trashes the tenure system which is VERY MUCH based on merit, including quality of teaching, at most universities. This boxed ad for SCAD is REALLY INSULTING to everyone who has or is going for tenure at a reputable institution.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.165.43.171 (talk) 17:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Where did this ad come from and why is it here?

message: who added the name change to the top?  The "university for creative careers", as i understand it, is just a slogan... there is not referance link, or anything... so, im going to delete it.  Skiendog (talk) 16:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: the scad website is still registered (2009) by, "Savannah College of Art and Design".  if you look at the top of the website, they use the new "University for Crative Careers" slogan.   Skiendog (talk) 16:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  name change? what??  no.   

message: To editor: I would like to add Marcus Kenney to Notible Alum section.  Here is some info excerpted from Marcia Wood Gallery's website
Marcus Kenney (b. 1972) was born and raised in rural Louisiana and currently lives and works in Savannah, GA. Kenney has had solo museum exhibitions at the Jepson Center at the Telfair Museum in Savannah and the Columbus Museum of Art, Columbus, GA, with upcoming one man and group exhibitions at the Masur Museum of Art, Monroe, LA and MOCA GA, Atlanta, GA, respectively. Kenney has exhibited in museums, institutions, galleries and art fairs internationally, including Israel, Paris, London,Montreal, New York, Boston, Chicago, Kansas City, St Louis and Minneapolis, Miami, and Portland, among others and he has been well-received in exhibits and art fairs in Chicago, New York and Boston. Kenney was also featured in the 2004 New American Paintings Southern Edition. Earlier activity includes inclusion in the Georgia Triennial 2003 and 2002 (a traveling exhibition highlighting a select number of Georgia artists), as well as the exhibition “Georgia Seven” at the Museum of Contemporary Art, Atlanta, GA, 2004, curated by Radcliffe Bailey. His bibliography includes Art in America, Oxford American, The New York Sun, The Boston Globe, Art Papers, New American Paintings, and National Public Radio, among others.
SOURCE: Marcia Wood Gallery (http://www.marciawoodgallery.com/artist/kenney/intro.html)
Susandiann (talk) 17:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Susandiann, 8 April 2011 

message: If anyone associated with Savannah College of Art and Design is reading this, could you please take a look at Talk:Interactive design and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive241#Possible School Project? Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 15:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Project? 

message: Yes, we all know SCAD-vs.-SCAD Group.  One is for-profit (SCAD Group), the other (SCAD, the academic/education part of the school) is non-profit.  Until we have a separate section/article for SCAD Group, I do suggest we have SCAD labelled as non-profit at the top of this article.  I have changed "for-profit" to "non-profit," to align EXACTLY as it is written in the citation.  If someone wants to make a separate section within this article, or a new article, talking about SCAD Group and it's for-profit status, be my guest.  Skiendog (talk) 03:22, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  For-Profit vs. Non-Profit 

message: Add Notable Faculty entry:
John Edgar Browning Department of Liberal Arts. Professor of Liberal Arts, author, editor, and scholar recognized internationally for his nonfiction works about the horror genre and vampires in film, literature, and culture. 66.56.55.56 (talk) 17:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  GoingBatty (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2020 

message: YouTuber Katzun is an SCAD student as of current (2020). Would they not be catagorised as notable alumni upon graduation? 97.90.223.226 (talk) 14:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Katzun 

message: I have added an  tag to this article because of extensive editing by a UPE sockfarm, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tactical Fiend for evidence. The article will need a thorough review ensuring due weight, neutral language, and use of reliable sources before the tag is removed. MarioGom (talk) 23:42, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undisclosed paid edits