Wikipedia talk:Perennial proposals

message: The MediaWiki Extension Variables is not installed on any of the Wikimedia wikis. Apparently it causes problems with other extensions, but I want a more detailed explanation, even if it is not suitable to be placed in the Perennial proposals page. JsfasdF252 (talk) 16:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want a better explanation, here definitely is not the place... --Izno (talk) 20:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should implementing Extension:Variables be included on the list? 

message: I find the supposed reasons not to make edit summaries mandatory to be pretty absurd. Are they really supported by a widespread consensus? To comment briefly on them:
# forcing (or reminding) users to enter edit summaries may annoy them enough they will not save their (possibly constructive) edits.
#* I find this completely implausible. If there is anybody out there at all who would rather throw away their edit than add a brief edit summary explaining what they changed, then I doubt that what they were adding was in any way worthwhile.
# Forcing users to type something in the edit summary box does not mean that they will provide accurate, honest, or useful edit summaries. 
#* True, but if asked to provide an accurate, honest and useful edit summary, what percentage of users will do so? I would be very sure that it would be the overwhelming majority. WP:AGF and all.
# Manually added edit summaries also suppress the automatic edit summaries.
#* Can't see how this is an argument not to require edit summaries
# Blank edit summaries are a good way to spot possible vandalism.
#* Blank edit summaries are so common that this is no way at all to spot possible vandalism.
Myself, I see no convincing reason at all for edit summaries to be optional. I find it discourteous and arrogant for anyone to think that they do not need to explain what they are doing (if anyone really thinks that). If you make a change to an article, it is no burden at all to explain what you did. It requires no thought and very little time. So are there some substantial reasons that I have not thought of, that are more convincing than those given, for edit summaries not to be obligatory? 46.208.236.129 (talk) 11:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit summaries 

message: I was reading through the page and noticed that the part about automatic protection of TFA's needing an update. I dug and found a RfC that was closed in favor of a trial for semi-protection of TFAs, but then checked the protection logs of a few articles in September and October 2021 (RfC was closed at the end of August 2021) and it seems to never have been implemented by anybody. I thought here was a good place to note its non-implementation.  —Danre98(talk^contribs) 20:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Automatic Semi-protection of TFA's 

message: All estimates of IP activity are given as of 2007. An update is warranted. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 04:24, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP edit stats are widely outdated 

message: I found at least three failed renaming requests on changing the "blacklist" word, which affects both articles and project pages, any ideas on this topic? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add an entry about "rename blacklist"?