Talk:Joik

message: I saw that DAT (record company) uses the spelling "yoik" for this genre, and was planning to rename this page soon. Any comments (as this have been discussed earlier) ? // Rogper 22:40, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw you did the work for me, good :-) // Rogper 19:45, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: Not all yoiks involve throat singing, but I am distressed to see the reference removed.  Perhaps you would allow Some yoiks are sung deep in the throat, and may be considered a form of throat singing.  It is certainly a well documented and common characteristic, even if the skills to do it well are rare at this time.
It would be interesting to see a reference on this. I have personally never heard a yoik that even remote resembled throat singing. If it does indeed occur, we should of course include a reference on this. However, if it turns out to be the case, I would much prefer a formulation like «is sung with a retracted tongue root» or something like that. All songs involve the larynx, which is situated deep in the throat. arj 00:05, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoever removed the throat singing reference has only a partial understanding of the application of the term; "throat singing" is applied not only to Tuvan/Mongolian overtone singing (not all of the sub-styles of which are considered "throat singing"), but also to Inuit katajjaq and similar traditions in Siberia, Turkey, etc. that use the pharynx to modify (distort) the sound of the vocal cords but don't focus on overtone production.  Although the term "throat singing" isn't usually applied to joik, the vocal technique of some joikers/joik styles (Wimme, for example) shares a similar pharyngealization of the voice.  Badagnani 08:20, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Throat singing

message: A link at the end of the article will go "stale" from time to time because it is a direct link to a Document in a Notes database. I'm not sure how to fix this, but I've removed one level of redirection, which may help.
I changed
http://www.fimic.fi/fimic/fimic.nsf/mainframe?readform&8F1750D3A9719F37C225683100402C79
to
http://www.fimic.fi/fimic/fimic.nsf/0/ddd24c7814224ba8c2256f0800325820?OpenDocument
David 15:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Link 

message: I have read that it is comariable - understandable but I have also read that Sami music is older that native american chanting. Can this be vertified? FK0071a 13:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yoiking is known from the 17th century (source: Nationalencyklopedin), but may very well be much older, historical records of Sámi culture in earlier times being exceedingly sparse. 85.8.12.78 (talk) 20:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Native Americans

message: Shouldn't an audio sample of Yoiking be provided?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.117.185 (talk) 09:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are some yoiks linked so check them out / include in article: http://www-db.helsinki.fi/cgi-bin/thw/?$%7BBASE%7D=saamimedia&$%7BSNHTML%7D=nosynaudioen&$%7Bhtml%7D=listaudioen&LA=11&%24%7BSORT%7D=tien  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.201.209.175 (talk) 16:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sample

message: Some Saami Joiks are (and have always traditionally been) performed using throat singing (overtone singing). An example is a song collected by Somby. For some reason, my edits that clarified the existence of ancient throat singing Joiks were all deleted from these articles. This note is just a statement, in case someone else wants to try adding this interesting topic to WP. There seems to be some opinion that what exists does not exist. We need some reliable source for this, to prevent it from being deleted. I'm not interesting in fighting about it. David Spector (user/talk) 00:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Throat singing in Saami Joiks 

message: I have never heard a pentatonic joik and it is nowhere found in the link it's refering to. Joik is sung harmonic overtones to a certain fundamental note. Allthough harmonic overtones are achieved by throught singers joik singers sing them instead of shaping them with formants.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.109.206 (talk) 12:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pentatonic? 

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message: Leuʹdd is singing, but not Joik. It's a very different genre. There is scientific literature on this topic, see fi:Leu%CA%B9dd. It would likely need a separate article. Perhaps I'll write it later. Michael.riessler (talk) 13:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leuʹdd