Wikipedia talk:Find or fix a stub

message: I propose deleting the contents of this page and replacing it with a link to what links here. There are lots of stub that have the stub notice but are not listed. That way, if someone de-stubifies something, it is automatically taken off the list, and it saves you having to list it here in the first place.
Any objections? Angela 00:15, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  That matches Wikipedia:NPOV dispute, and seems like a good idea. Martin 01:39, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

text: I agree, but there's gotta be some way to break the What Links Here bit up. The number of stubs that do link there have got to be mammoth. Dysprosia 00:27, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a way to break it up. The links below let you choose just to see what links to the redirects, so you can have a shorter list;
To find a stub, use the following link to see what links to this page:
*Wikipedia:Find or fix a stub (A list of 500)
If you would rather look at a shorter list, see what links to these redirect pages;
*Wikipedia utilities/find or fix a stub
*Stub article
*Stub
*Stubs
*Wikipedia:Stub
*Now implemented. Angela 02:42, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: A proposal

message: A few days ago, I started indexing Pokémon Stubs. I decided to add a link to that page here and noticed that there's also Tolkien Stubs. Should there be more list of topic-specific stubs?<BR>--Fern 18:41, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
*I think that is a good idea. However, I am still struggling with the idea of substubs since this still seems very subjective and depending on the type of topic, you sometimes reach the end after only a couple of paragraphs. What has been your experience with using the substub tag?--Jpittman 04:19, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topic-specific Stubs 

message: Where does the word "stub" come from? Who used it first? 82.83.34.129 22:14, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of "stub"? 

message: A new type of stub has been created: it's called a substub. Substubs are like regular stubs, only even smaller. You can read more about the difference between stubs and substubs here, or view examples of stubs vs. substubs. There is also a new substub template message; the new message is meant to replace the normal stub message, but only where, of course, an article is a substub instead of a stub. The new message looks like
The original author's transclusion here of Template:substub (his markup reading 
: . 
has now been disabled by me) is removed since (surely contrary to his intent) it has become misleading, and also since it was falsely labeling this page as a substub. The content that his transclusion originally produced was
:This article is a substub. A substub is even smaller than a normal stub. You can help Wikipedia by [ expanding it].
(indentation but not italics added by Jerzy (t)); he may or not have realized that, due to an edit 40 minutes earlier, he was putting this talk page into :Category:Substubs. At any future time, the then current result of using the markup he refers to may be seen at Template:substub. At this writing, that result reads 
: This article is a substub, the first step on the way to becoming a full article. You can help by [ expanding it].
  and includes a graphic of a jigsaw-puzzle piece bearing a "W". --Jerzy (t) 17:23, 2005 Apr 27 (UTC)
You can use this new message by either replacing  with  in cases when a stub is more accurately described as a substub, or simply inserting  at the bottom of an article. Many substubs are automatically listed on Wikipedia:Shortpages. You can discuss this new type of stub here, on the template message's talk page, or, preferably, on the substub talk page itself. -- Mike Storm 19:56, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOTICE, new type of stub 

message: I've placed a blurb at the top of the Find or fix a stub article directing readers to Stub (disambiguation) for... well, you know. I did this mainly because some people are trying to link to stub in different contexts (for example, in Computer network—which needs work, BTW!), presumably thinking that it will be a general-purpose article about stubs or a disambig page. Of course, those links are redirected to this "project page" on stub articles. I've changed the stub links on the a few regular articles (not including Talk and User pages). See also Talk:Stub (disambiguation) for a similar message from me, and Wikipedia:List of stubs without msg to find other pages that need fixes related to "stub" linking. - dcljr 06:27, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub disambig blurb 

message: Does anyone object to the fact that I added whole bunch of new stub categories?  Do you think it's a bad idea?  User:Anthony DiPierro has told me that it is against the Wikipedia:Avoid self-references policy... but wouldn't this mean so is bio-stub and substub? -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:14, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems good to me.  I don't know why it would have anything to do with self-references; can you ore anthony give some details (for my curiosity only)? JesseW 21:05, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  New stubs 

message: This page is described as "A stub is a very short article, generally of one paragraph or less. Most stubs fail to cover all but the most trivial subjects completely. However, this does not mean the stub is not a legitimate article—it just needs to be expanded."
Requests for expansion is described as "Almost every article in Wikipedia could do with some expansion. This page is for listing those stubs, substubs and other articles that have decent information, but that you find embarrassingly short or insufficient for an encyclopedia of the stature to which Wikipedia aspires."
It appears that these two pages are doing the same job.  They should be merged, yes? (Also posted to Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_expansion)JesseW 22:39, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the difference between this page and [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_expansion]]? 

message: For example: I was looking at the article for Ben & Jerry's, which referred me to the article on Jerry Greenfield.  That article is only a couple of sentences, and is marked as a stub.  Is there any reason to expand it?  There is a bio on the companies website that tells where he grew up, etc. but, there is really nothing noteworthy about him, except that he was a co-founder of the ice cream company.
So my question is: Should this be just a regular article, (that is very short)? Is there any reason to have it marked "stub"?
Alternative responses could be that the article should be deleted, or that all bio's should tell where the person grew up, and what college he or she attended, etc.
Mpearl 03:16, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question: What about articles that don't really need to say very much? 

message: == Multiple stubs? ==
Are multiple stubs ok?  I'm stubbing Saint Sergius twice. -- Sy / (talk) 01:35, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, a lot of them do fall into that category, but wouldn't that bring in a lot of maybe unwanted entries on Wiktionary or articles that already exist?Justin J. Liu (Dylan Smithson) (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2005 Talk 

message: Are multiple stubs ok?  I'm stubbing Saint Sergius twice. -- Sy / (talk) 01:35, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple stubs? 

message: What if I start writing a long article, divide it into sections, and each section is just a stub of what it should be? I think the article should be considered a stub. -Lev 06:42, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long article stubs 

message: I think this stub discussion should mention the possiblity of marking "move to Wiktionary" I reckon the root cause of 20% of stubs is that they are definitions not articles--BozMo|talk 16:06, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, a lot of them do fall into that category, but wouldn't that bring in a lot of maybe unwanted entries on Wiktionary or articles that already exist?Justin J. Liu (Dylan Smithson) (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Wiktionary

message: What is really the threshold for a stub article? Two paragraphs, three, or is it really just the amount of content and the possibility of serious expansion? E=MC^2 T@lk 16:37, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub length 

message: What happened to the help page for stubs? It listed how to put a certain stub on that certain page. If anyone knows how to get the page back please let me know. --Contrib 18:07, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of stub help like <nowiki>{{</nowiki>tv-stub}} for television. 

message: == Macedonia stub to North Macedonia? ==
Currently, one of the N. Macedonia stub reads as "This article about a politician of the Republic of Macedonia is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.", and I suspect other stubs related to N. Macedonian people, buildings, or other things are still referred to as the Republic of Macedonia instead of North Macedonia. Fix?Justin J. Liu (Dylan Smithson) (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: 2019 talk

message: Currently, one of the N. Macedonia stub reads as "This article about a politician of the Republic of Macedonia is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.", and I suspect other stubs related to N. Macedonian people, buildings, or other things are still referred to as the Republic of Macedonia instead of North Macedonia. Fix?Justin J. Liu (Dylan Smithson) (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macedonia stub to North Macedonia?