Talk:Robert Ford (outlaw)

message: His grave has the obviously wrong 1842 listed, but other sources have him as being born in 1862. I'm curious where the 1860 comes from and how certain we are about his birth at all since there's no month and day listed.
--68.188.91.24 01:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthdate

message: * At [], you can read the written statement made by Robert Ford to the Missouri Governor about the assasination. It is quite interesting. It may be nice to include this, or excerpts of it, in the article. I'm not sure what the wiki-etiquette of this is, or how it should be cited. mobyrock 17:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Written Statement

message: Is someone willing to write a section on Robert Ford's early life. Jeff Soapy Smith 04:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early history of Ford 

message: Certain third-person accounts of Robert Ford's personality suggest that he might have been afflicted with AS. This is reflected in Casey Affleck's performance in a recent movie. (Citation Needed.) j/w - 208.127.136.174 17:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're a lunatic and it's people like you who are ruining wikipedia (and the world). Die.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.110.235 (talk) 03:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asperger's syndrome? 

message: I suppose streching the definition of assassination, one could call Ford's killing of James to be an "assassination", yet it has a strange "ring" to it. Sure, some look to this thug (James) as some kind of icon, yet he was a criminal and not some kind of Robin Hood. He was murdered by another criminal. Calling it a murder or killing seems more appropriate, or even a hit. That is how it is portrayed in the WP Jesse James article. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is the recent film, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, based on what this event has been called for a long time, or are we advertising the movie or Hansen's novel? Dr. Dan (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see where you are coming from, but the definition of assassination is to kill with an ideological or political motivation or gain - which can include power, money, prestige or notoriety. Calling Ford the "assassin" of Jesse James does not intrinsically imply that Jesse was good (I tend to agree that he was a thug - as was Ford). Though I do agree that it does - as you say - have a strange ring to it, based on many people's tendency to associate assassination with an immoral or un-honorable motive. Beatfootprints (talk) 01:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Some avoid the term assassination in wikipedia, not sure why yet it may be a policy. Kasaalan (talk) 08:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Assassination"

message: A new section devoted to Dorothy Evans was added and I would like to know if anyone has any reliable source this person was involved with Ford. She supposedly worked for Ford as a singer, dancer, etc., in his Creede, Colorado saloon but there is no evidence he had a saloon except for a small tent saloon erected after the fire of June 5, 1892 and he was killed three days later. There are no newspaper records that mention her name in Creede. I am hoping user Lhw1 can shed some light on the information he/she supplied in the article. Jeff Smith (talk) 04:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do "smitten with" is a widely known world, can people understand it means "suddenly realize that you fall in love". I am not a native speaker, so your view matters. Kasaalan (talk) 17:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dorothy Evans 

message: On April 3, 1882, as James prepared for another robbery, he climbed a chair to dust a picture. It was a rare moment. He had his guns off, having removed them earlier when the unusual heat forced him to remove his coat. As he moved in and out of the house, he feared the pistols would attract attention from the passers-by. Seizing the opportunity, the Ford brothers drew their pistols. Bob was the fastest, firing a shot into the back of Jesse's head, killing him instantly.
There are theories about why James left his guns off, and missing details I will add theories here, then try to find WP:RS that supports them. Kasaalan (talk) 08:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reason Jesse James leave off his guns and details

message: Per WikiMOS, IMDb is not a reliable source (RS), therefore should not be used for inline cites. I moved IMDb references to External links.Parkwells (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: IMDb not an RS

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