Talk:Classical music/Archive 3

message: I removed the following:
*"Also, it is normally only in classical music that very long works (30 minutes to three hours) are built up hierarchically from smaller units (phrases, periods, sections, and movements). Structural levels are distinguished by Schenkerian analysis."
Given the following counterexample found in Burmese music:
*"The segments combined into patterns, combined into verses, combined into songs make Burmese music a multileveled hierarchical system...The Burmese musician manipulates the various levels of the hierarchy to create the song..." Becker, Judith (1969: 272). "The Anatomy of a Mode", Ethnomusicology 13, no.2:267-79.
Hyacinth 00:47, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The above is now readded. Hyacinth 02:31, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Complexity

message: I am somewhat mystified as to why this article keeps getting vandalized. Does anyone have an explanation or insight?
--Herschelkrustofsky 14:58, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism is a little like mildew; you just have to wipe it away every once in a while.  Overall the vandalism in this area is an order of magnitude less than on the political articles, so maybe we could consider ourselves blessed. Antandrus 16:14, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The classical music area is, in general, one of the most collegial and productive on en.wikipedia, we should be grateful for this, and for the contributions of a good group of knowledgeable and dedicated editors. Stirling Newberry 19:35, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: I dropped the "Emotional content" section because it is LaRouche-cruft. If anyone wants to rebuild it with some regular references, super. -Willmcw 09:04, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Emotional content"

message: Note on the use of the word: while the most common use is to set a text, the word also applies to a pre-existing melody. This "setting" a folk melody or chorale means to harmonize it. It can also refer to the instrumentation: to set a plainsong chant for 4 voices. It does not matter in the present case. Stirling Newberry 11:40, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Setting 

message: The google search for the forms of music regarded as / or using the term "classical music", in double inverted comma ( " " ), yields the following statistics of number of pages; as on 27th Feb 2005: eg: "Ancient Greek music"  -  10,600    
Oriental - Asian Musics regarded as / or using the term "Classical music"
    * Andalusian (North African) classical music  -  111
    * Arab classical music  -  849
    * Azerbaijani classical music:  -  57  Mugam  -  14,100
    * Burmese classical music  -  120
    * Byzantine classical music: 163; Orthodox Byzantine music  -  68
    * Cambodian classical music: Pinpeat  -  72
    * Central Asian classical music:  -  20  
          o Uzbek and Tajik shashmaqam  -  219
    * Chinese classical music Yayue,   -  9690  Guqin  -  18,800
    * Eastern classical music  -  666
    * Indian classical music:   -  1,40,000
          o Bengali classical music  -  15
          o Carnatic music  -  1,16,000
          o Hindustani music  -  40,900 
            and Pakistani classical music - 340
          o Hindustani classical music  -  10,500
                + Odissi classical music  -  10
          o Kashmiri classical music: Sufiana Kalam  -  5
          o North Indian classical music  -  11,500
          o South Indian classical music  -  5,190
    * Indonesian classical music  -  117
        Gamelan classical music  -  35  
        Gamelan  -  5,13,000  
    * Iranian classical music:  -  4010; Musiqi-e assil  -  152
    * Japanese classical music:   -  977; Gagaku  -  41,100
    * Korean court music  -  1,940
    * Laotian classical music:  -  13; Sep nyai  -  86
    * Middle eastern classical music"  -  112
    * Nepalese classical music:  -  9; Charya  -  11,000
    * Ottoman classical music:  -  897; Sanat  -  1,250,000
    * Thai court music  -  53
    * Tibetan classical music:  -  35; Nangma  -  1,020
    * Vietnamese classical music  -  88
Occidental-Western traditions of music regarded as / or using the term "classical music"
    * Classical rock music  -  1,110
    * Classical Jazz music -  2,010    
    * Ancient Greek music  -  10,600
    * Western classical music  -  34,400
    * European written music  -  3
Other traditions regarded as / or using the term "classical music"
    * African classical music  -  158
    * Classical folk music  -  7,680
    * Folk Classical music  -  792
Original term refering to "Klassische musik" / "classical music" from Europe:
    * European classical music  -  10,600
    * Classical music  -  15,700,000
    * Klassische musik  -  9,680,000 (in german)
The term "classical music" yields over 15.5 million pages, (15,700,000), but that is inclusive of all the traditions and various musical forms across the globe using the term "classical music".
The term "Classical music" or "Klassische Musik" originally described only written music from Europe and largely refers to music composed by european composers. With the naive assumption of deriving at the usage of the term "classical music" for music written by European composers through an approximate subtraction of the number of "non-european music" pages using the term "classical music". The approximate estimate of the term "classical music" refering only to music written by European composers would be over (13.5 million).
A lover of Classical Music was once referred to as a "long hair".
  Ex: He doesn't dig Benny. He's a "long hair."
--Hindustani classical music, how about African sangeet??
from classical music to European classical music to western classical music. Way to go.
-- wonder how delibes' "flower duet" morphed into "British airways song"  to Yanni "Aria" - for soprano"
P.S. "Western classical music"!! how about "Eastern classical music"??. Robin klein 14:49, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the above all one message from Robin klein? Hyacinth 23:53, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lies, Damned lies and Classical elitism