Talk:Fra Bartolomeo

message: The page was a mess (Check the history prior to 3/2/07 2:28 UTC). I tried fromatting them for about 45 minutes, to no effect. Eventually I just placed them in a gallery. They're great images and I'dlove to see them incorprorated into the body of the work, but I just can't do it. Can anyone else do anything? And if not, can we just upload maybe a better copy of the same two images (The filenames are a mess anyways)? --Scorpios 14:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrupt Images

message: Where does that come from ? According to Giorgio Vasari it was removed because the almost nude figure excited sexual arousal in female visitors to the convent. Vasari (1568): "Dicesi che stando in chiesa per mostra questa figura, avevano trovato i frati nelle confessioni donne que nel guardarlo avevano peccato per la leggiadria e lasciva imitazione del vivo datagli dalla virtù di fra' Bartolomeo." (My translation: "They say that the brothers [of San Marco in Florence], when this figure was exhibited in the church, found women in confession who had sinned at the sight of the lovely and lascivious imitation of the living, given by the skill of Fra Bartolomeo"). In the 1550 version of the "Vite" the wording was apparently even stronger. Instead of "avevano peccato" Vasari then used "s'erano corrotte", which Daniela Bohde alleges could have "the meaning of ejaculating or masturbating" in Vasari's time.
The citations are from:
Vasari, Giorgio: "Le Vite de' piu eccellenti pittori scultori e architettori nelle redazione del 1550 e 1568" (ed. R. Bettarini u. P. Barocchi; 6 vol., Firenze:Sansoni, 1966-1987); vol. IV (1976), 91 and
Bohde, Daniela: "Ein Heiliger der Sodomiten? Das erotische Bild des Hl. Sebastian im Cinquecento", in: Fend, Mechthild; Koos, Marianne (ed.): "Männlichkeit im Blick. Visuelle Inszenierungen in der Kunst seit der Frühen Neuzeit" (Köln-Weimar-Wien:Böhlau, 2004), 89  Ver sacrum (talk) 07:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The famous lost picture of Saint Sebastian: "so strongly expressive of suffering and agony" it had to be removed ? 

message: Many places say he died 31 October, not 6 October.  The French, German, Spanish, Polish and Ukrainian WP articles all say 31 October.  What's the true date, and why?  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:32, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of death

message: Revision as of 04:23, 2 September 2005 added some text and the reference to  Vaughan, William (2000), Encyclopedia of Artists, unfortunately no page number was included. If someone has access to that book please add short citations to the text with page numbers or if no longer relevant please remove the book or move it in to further reading. -- PBS (talk) 15:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably it is easily found under "Fra...". Johnbod (talk) 15:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Encyclopedia of Artists'' 

message: Also in Lucca, in the October 1509, he painted by Albertinelli an altarpiece with Madonna and Child with Saints for the local cathedral. Chadler1945 (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Badly translated from the Italian: "Also in Lucca, in October 1509, he painted with Albertinelli an altarpiece of the Madonna and Child with Saints for the local cathedral." Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This sentence does not make sense.