Talk:Panorama Tower

message: After an editor with a COI blanked the page, I've done a little digging. exMiami looks to have the most up-to-date info on the project : 830 feet high (lowered due to FAA requirement), 821 residential units and 128 hotel units. Architecture work will be done in-house by Florida East Coast Realty (Moshe Cosicher is the project architect). —C.Fred (talk) 00:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article restructuring 

message: DeSimone seems to be the previous structural engineering firm, for the data they give for the building matches the original proposal from 2007, which was for an entirely different developer. See here: 
*http://www.de-simone.com/english/projects/residential/1101brickell.html
Tutor Perini has this project listed right on their (more likely to be up to date) first page:
*http://www.tutorperini.com/
*http://investors.tutorperini.com/press-releases/press-releases-details/2014/Tutor-Perini-Awarded-255-Million-Contract-for-the-Panorama-Tower-in-Miami/default.aspx
B137 (talk) 18:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Tutor Perini is also listed as the builder per a June 2014 article in the San Fernando Valley Business Journal. It's not quite a Miami newspaper (the business journal may be working off press releases), but it's at least not directly from a company's website. —C.Fred (talk) 21:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad. Tutor-Perini seems to be strictly an aggregate of construction companies, DeSimone may very well still be the engineer, they just haven't updated their website and none of the recent articles mentioned them. Also to note the figures given on the press release this year for Perini seem to use some outdated numbers such as the parking garage being only 13 floors. Conversely they give the highest hotel number I have seen, 250. However, the figure of  of area given only matches the most recent, largest design publicized. B137 (talk) 17:49, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  DeSimone issue 

message: Good information but an anonymous and occasionally outwardly biased site. 
*http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/sheet-pile-work-begins-at-tibor-hollos-822-foot-panorama-tower/
"...began driving sheet piles at the site yesterday.
A 12-hour window between 8 AM to 8 PM is designated for sheet pile work, which causes vibration and is a nuisance to neighbors. The schedule was chosen after consulting with residential buildings in the area.
Auger-cast pile installation will continue for another month, with work starting at 5:30 AM and ending at 8:30 PM."
*http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/developer-of-miamis-tallest-building-taking-steps-to-reduce-construction-noise/
Noise reduction efforts, site did garner complaints.
*http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/tibor-hollo-calls-in-1000-foot-cranes-to-build-panorama-tower/
"...installing a crane at the site will rise to a height of 1,047 feet (or 1,052 above mean sea level). A second 1,016 foot crane will provide high mast illumination, while a third 385-foot crane will also be installed at the site."
Crane heights specific due to FAA restrictions
*http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/hollo-hits-accelerator-panorama-tower/
"Crews working on piling installation at the site will soon begin 24-hour shifts, an increase from the current 16-hour work day."
B137 (talk) 23:06, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iffy refs 

message: *Qualitatively, I can tell you this address has the only post office in Brickell; while no source I could find will directly state this, it can be deduced using the post office finder. Regardless, I'm not sure how significant this is for a small neighborhood that does not even seem to be its own CDP, and when Downtown has a few post offices. A picture would illustrate the TD Bank cube, the FIU naming rights, as well as possibly the post office sign if taken from the correct angle at the right time. B137 (talk) 03:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor details for comprehension 

message: *Community Newspapers 
===Miami Today===
*http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/01/21/83-story-tower-coming-ground/
"plan to go back to get the 19 feet back.”
“It’s actually a little bit ahead of schedule"
The company anticipates completion around the third quarter of 2017, he said.
“That keeps us three months ahead of the schedule 
B137 (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  U/C refs 

message: *http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/01/21/83-story-tower-coming-ground/
"plan to go back to get the 19 feet back.”
“It’s actually a little bit ahead of schedule"
The company anticipates completion around the third quarter of 2017, he said.
“That keeps us three months ahead of the schedule 
B137 (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Miami Today

message: ====more eb-5====
Why this EB-5 investor is putting his money on Miami's Panorama Tower
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2015/02/02/why-this-eb-5-investor-is-putting-his-money-on.html
B137 (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: BizJournals

message: Why this EB-5 investor is putting his money on Miami's Panorama Tower
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2015/02/02/why-this-eb-5-investor-is-putting-his-money-on.html
B137 (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: more eb-5

message: Zyscovich Architects tapped for Panorama Tower design
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/blog/morning-edition/2015/02/zyscovich-architects-tapped-for-panorama-tower.html
B137 (talk) 20:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: architecture

message: Spectacular art donation enhances FIU Downtown on Brickell
http://news.fiu.edu/2015/02/spectacular-art-donation-enhances-fiu-downtown-on-brickell/84556
B137 (talk) 00:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: FIU

message: video
http://www.local10.com/news/excitement-builds-for-paramount-miami-worldcenter/31263532
Subject: Wikipedia corrections 
Attached you will find the tale of the two projects 
In the History portion of the article should illustrate Kobi Karp design (circa 2005-2011) 
On the front of the article the merit should be given solely to  Moshe Cosicher illustrating his design  circa (2012 to present) being the  Panorama Tower under construction 
Mr Karp has not been involved in this project since 2011 as he was substituted as Hollo architect for the project. If Mr Karp design would have been used he could claim to be the design architect but his design was scraped in 2012 as Mr Hollo asked Mr Cosicher to start from scratch  In summary Mr Karp has no claim to the present design of Panorama 
Please let the media set the record straight 
Thank you 
Moshe Cosicher AIA Architect  Moshecosicher (talk) 20:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: WPLG-TV

message: Reminder that since I was aiming for an eventual GA certification, the height was changed to the new 868 right in the lead after it states "in 2013", even though that is a 2016 update from the 822/830. B137 (talk) 10:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do 

message: Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
Subject: Wikipedia corrections 
Attached you will find the tale of the two projects 
In the History portion of the article should illustrate Kobi Karp design (circa 2005-2011) 
On the front of the article the merit should be given solely to  Moshe Cosicher illustrating his design  circa (2012 to present) being the  Panorama Tower under construction 
Mr Karp has not been involved in this project since 2011 as he was substituted as Hollo architect for the project. If Mr Karp design would have been used he could claim to be the design architect but his design was scraped in 2012 as Mr Hollo asked Mr Cosicher to start from scratch  In summary Mr Karp has no claim to the present design of Panorama 
Please let the media set the record straight 
Thank you 
Moshe Cosicher AIA Architect 
Sent from my iPhone Moshecosicher (talk) 19:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  False reporting  

message: Subject: Wikipedia corrections 
Attached you will find the tale of the two projects 
In the History portion of the article should illustrate Kobi Karp design (circa 2005-2011) 
On the front of the article the merit should be given solely to  Moshe Cosicher illustrating his design  circa (2012 to present) being the  Panorama Tower under construction 
Mr Karp has not been involved in this project since 2011 as he was substituted as Hollo architect for the project. If Mr Karp design would have been used he could claim to be the design architect but his design was scraped in 2012 as Mr Hollo asked Mr Cosicher to start from scratch  In summary Mr Karp has no claim to the present design of Panorama 
Please let the media set the record straight 
Thank you 
Moshe Cosicher AIA Architect  Moshecosicher (talk) 20:09, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  False reporting