Talk:Electromyography

message: There is no notion of fine wire EMG procedures or applications. I think this should be corrected.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.149.212.208 (talk) 12:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fine wire EMG 

message: A 1996 study, Haig, et al., "Technology assessment: the use of surface EMG in the diagnosis and treatment of nerve and muscle disorders" (), states that "There are no clinical indications for the use of SEMG in the diagnosis and treatment of disorders of nerve or muscle". This specific study is cited in the Official Disability Guidelines to substantiate their non-recommendation of surface EMG for the diagnosis of carpal tunnel syndrome. Reading the abstract of a more recent study (2008) suggests the same conclusions; Meekins, et al., "American Association of Neuromuscular & Electrodiagnostic Medicine evidenced-based review: use of surface electromyography in the diagnosis and study of neuromuscular disorders" (). Just thought I'd throw that out there while I was reading through the ODG and ACOEM. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 18:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the ODG chapter on low back pain goes into greater depth. It cites Council on Chiropractic Guidelines and Practice Parameters 2004 draft of "Best Practices: Chiropractic Management Of Low Back Pain", which states that SEMG "is a procedure that has a certain level of popularity in the chiropractic profession, but whose use is not supported by a significant body of literature or research". As well as a few other studies, including the Haig, et al. one above. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 18:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Usefulness of surface EMG 

message: Edward H. Lambert, MD, PhD (1915–2003) was already working on EMG at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN in 1952 or '53 when Ervin L Schmidt, my father, got a job there as a research technician. With Dr. Lambert's medical knowledge and my father's electronics knowledge, they developed and refined what is likely the first commercially available EMG machine. Mayo, at that time at least, had no interest in producing products themselves, so my father continued to make them in his workshop through the '70s, and continued to maintain them into the late '80s or early '90s.
Early machines were constructed in a large Budd cabinet on casters. There was a Tektronics oscilloscope on the top. Early oscilloscopes had no store feature, so a Polaroid camera was mounted on the front, synchronized to photograph the scan. One custom machine had 2 oscilloscopes so the Dr./Technician could see the scan in real time.
I have no idea how to provide external verification on this, but I can provide pictures and sales literature.
Nanjoa (talk) 11:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  EMG at Mayo 

message: is a monograph by the American Association of Neuromuscular and Electrodiagnostic Medicine that seems to set some standards for needle electromyography. JFW | T@lk 10:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead and include it, though be sure to note that it's standards for human needle EMG - plenty of us use EMG on other species in different ways. Mokele (talk) 16:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

text: That is very unlikely. Blood vessels aren't skeletal muscles. EMGs measure the electrical activity of skeletal muscles. Dger (talk) 03:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  AANEM monograph 

message: Great article. Electromyography is well explained to the readers by its authors. From history to procedure, everything is well explained and easy to understand. To make it even perfect, I would suggest to add pictures of the EMG graphs and its instrument. It is really a good article, adding pictures to it will make it perfect. Well done! Mickey0987 (talk) 03:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary review 

message: Not defined or mentioned in article. What is the difference exactly? 109.157.79.50 (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the redirect should have gone to Electromyoneurography. I have changed it.  Dger (talk) 01:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does "electroneuromyography" redirect here? 

message: Hello, based on my recent research, EMG studies can show lower peaks, activity and potentials while using medications such as Pregabalin.  Based on the role of AED's, this is expected behavior.
* Narita N, Kumar N, Cherkas PS, et al. Systemic Pregabalin Attenuates Sensorimotor Responses and Medullary Glutamate Release in Inflammatory Tooth Pain Model. Neuroscience. 2012;218:359-366. doi:10.1016/j.neuroscience.2012.05.016. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3393787/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.138.213 (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invalidated EMG contributors 

message: There are only two mentions of pain from the procedure:
* "Some patients can find the procedure somewhat painful"
* "Deep muscles require intramuscular wires that are intrusive and painful in order to achieve an EMG signal"
IANAD, and I understand that we don't want to terrify someone who may need this treatment, but a general expectation level is reasonable. I'd love to know it's not as bad as I've heard, but n=3 doctors and n=3 patients I've personally spoken to (WP:ORIG) are in unanimous agreement about the severity of the pain (extreme and lengthy), so some coverage is perhaps warranted.  Can someone who has knowledge of pain management please make sure this topic is covered?
I understand that pain is a relative thing, but given the pre-procedure prescription for hydrocodone/paracetamol and lorazepam, and post-op diazepam, and the reports of "It's the worst pain I've ever had, and the procedure just goes on and on", I think that the current text may understate the reality.
Thanks in advance,
Riventree (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: More info: Pain FROM the procedure 

message: The second paragraph under the heading TECHNIQUE has the sentence
:Proper needle EMG placement is very important for accurate representation of the muscle of interest, although EMG is more effective on superficial muscles as it is unable to bypass the action potentials of superficial muscles and detect deeper muscles.
Either I am not understanding what's being related (and admittedly there is much of this article that is beyond my comprehension), or there's a typo.  Should the word "unable" perhaps be "able"?  I really can't make sense of the sentence as it's written. ◦◦derekbd◦◦my talk◦◦ 11:05, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technique wording