Talk:The Vandals

message: In one of the Vandals' DVD's commentary, Joe Escalante and Warren Fitzgerald discussed the meaning of "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" (among other songs) and Joe said it was an anti-abortion song. Joe elaborated by saying something along the lines of "I'm only against the abortions that kill babies". I am not sure which DVD as they were all stolen. Here are the ones I owned: Oi To The World, Sweatin to the Oldies, and the Show Must Go Off. I would guess it was the last one. Ryratt 23:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was Live at the House of Blues, and the topic is addressed in that article. IllaZilla 07:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" in that article. Ryratt 23:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, wrong article. They didn't perform "Ape" on the live album. Go to Live Fast, Diarrhea. Under "Song information" it mentions that in the Live at the House of Blues commentary Escalante mentioned that the song had something to do with abortion. IllaZilla 03:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Song meaning

message: Is this a joke? If not is there any more info?
:Quick Google search reveals "Did Keanu Reeves really play with The Vandals? "He played bass for us one time when I was at a wedding. It was just for a party."  Epitaf 20:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He filled in at the one show you mention and therefore falls under the "notable fill-ins" section. IllaZilla2 08:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They appearantly consider him a former member of the band. http://www.vandals.com/html/faq.htm re: "What ever happened to all the old guys in your band?" Ryratt 23:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, he filled in at 1 show. The statement in the FAQ you mention is clearly sarcastic and meant as a joke. Therefore he falls under "notable fill-ins" and is listed as such. IllaZilla 07:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Keanu Reeves?

message: Why are they under both early and later punk groups?
:Because the band has been around since the early 1980s. The original lineup was important to the early '80s southern California punk rock movement and released a significant record as part of that movement (Peace Thru Vandalism). However by 1990 the lineup had changed pretty much completely except for 1 member. The new lineup rose to popularity during the 1990s punk rock revival (the era of "later" punk groups), releasing several albums which were important to that era of punk rock (Live Fast, Diarrhea, Hitler Bad, Vandals Good, etc.). It's all in the band history section if you care to read it. Since the band essentially had 2 eras of significance, they fall into both categories. In the same way that they belong in several decade categories because they've been active for almost 30 years. --IllaZilla 07:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: The article Steven Ronald Jensen contains no information that cannot be easily incorporated into this article. There is no sourced information that shows that Steven Ronald Jensen meets our notability requirements for stand alone articles as having any notability outside of his participation in the band.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.25 (talk) 01:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. I will merge the articles due to no objections. Freikorp (talk) 03:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection here. Good call. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Steven Ronald Jensen]] merge 

message: I don't know where that unsourced information came from, but there are a number of reasons why this would be impossible:
*During the TSOL cover, they change the lyric "President Reagan can shove it" to "President Clinton can suck my dick". In 1991 Bill Clinton was a mostly unknown Governor of Arkansas, not President or even Presidential front-runner. 
*They mention the Billy Ray Cyrus song Achy Breaky Heart, which was released in 1992.
*At some point in the album Joe says he has been in The Vandals for 13 years. Since he joined in 1980, this would place the recording of the album as 1992 or 1993.
*There are also numerous references to it being the holiday season and sometime around new years, which would mean the show took place in late December 1992 or early January 1993. This means the manufactured album could not have been released any earlier than 1993.Hoponpop69 (talk) 18:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sweating to the Oldies was not released in 1991

message: Which year was this album really released in? I see an almost equal amount of resources stating each year. Google, Discogs, and the original Triple X release show 1991. Wiki, allmusic, and the band's bandcamp(says recorded in 90, not released) all show 1990. There's nearly an equal amount of press articles that state either year. I have checked the band's official site, Kung Fu's site, Wayback machine for both, and even messaged them via Facebook(which I am still awaiting a response) and I could not find any officially stated date except for the "reissued in 2000" tidbit.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.91.72.130 (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fear Of A Punk Planet released in 1990 or 1991? 

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