Talk:Sabu (wrestler)

message: when the hell was it confirmed that sabu will go for the world heavy weight title a one night stand. if it does happen then thanks for the spoilers bitchs—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.12.116.71 (talk) 21:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I took care of it, it looks like the same person who keeps trying to add it to the ONS II page. People need to learn not to add things that haven't happened yet. I'm sure people would like it if someone added spoilers for a show like 24 before they air. TJ Spyke 03:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The pointing, according to I think Brunk himelf, fits in it with his gimmick of being a "savage". The lights are "pointing" down at him from the ceilng, so he points back at them. Nowadays however it's just become his signature taunt. Romis 13:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: quoting from article "It was Sabu and Terry Funk who created one of the most violent matches seen on televised wrestling in a barbed wire match on August 9th, 1997 at ECW's Born To Be Wired event."
This is false, as it was NEVER televised. It was filmed for a commercial ECW video, not for ECW Hardcore TV. Although small clips were shown on tv, it was far too violent to be fully aired. If it was aired ECW most likely would've been dropped by some markets. Other matches from the show were televised on Hardcore TV, but the full main event match was only available on the Born To Be Wired vhs tape.--Hndsmepete 06:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong it was not televised in full, only clips were shown. I have the Hardcore TV episode on tape. BTW a UHF channel is barely tv anyway. I caught ECW on MSG every saturday night at 2AM throughout the 90's.Hndsmepete 07:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Born To Be Wired

message: move. I moved it to Sabu since it was a redirect to Terry Brunk. If people want Sabu to be a disambiguation page and for this article to be at Sabu (wrestler), let me know. -- Kjkolb 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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*Support. McPhail 13:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

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I oppose the move because the "(wrestler)" part has to be added to the article name since there's other uses for "Sabu". "Terry Brunk" is a unique article name and is better for disambiguation purposes. --Jtalledo (talk) 12:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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*Support. McPhail 13:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

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I oppose the move because the "(wrestler)" part has to be added to the article name since there's other uses for "Sabu". "Terry Brunk" is a unique article name and is better for disambiguation purposes. --Jtalledo (talk) 12:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: he was using that name LONG before TNA even existed, should the "(in TNA)" be removed?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.16.220 (talk) 09:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suicidal, Homicidal, Genocidal! (in TNA)

message: The following is an article from The Ironton Tribune (irontontribune.com) 
Wrestling stars busted in Hanging Rock 
By Kirsten Stanley/The Ironton Tribune 
HANGING ROCK  Two wrestling superstars from Extreme Championship Wrestling and World Wrestling Entertainment may be tough in the ring, but they didn't have enough muscle to escape drug charges after being stopped Sunday night by the Ohio State Highway Patrol. 
Robert Alex Szatowski, aka WWE and ECW champion Rob Van Dam, and Terry Michael Brunk, aka Sabu, also a former ECW champion, were pulled over on U.S. 52, near Patrick Street in Hanging Rock at about 10:15 p.m. The two were apparently driving from their performances at the Big Sandy Superstore Arena earlier in the evening. 
According to the OSHP, Szatowski was initially stopped for speeding. When troopers approached his vehicle, they smelled marijuana and performed a search. Troopers found the wrestler in possession of 18 grams of marijuana and five Vicodin, prescription pain pills. Brunk was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia and also had nine pills that were not immediately identifiable, but were known to be controlled substances, according to the OSHP. Both were cited and posted bond at the scene. 
Szatowski, of Battle Creek, Mich., has had a long, successful career with both the WWE and ECW. In addition to being the current champion of both, he has been intercontinental champion six times, hardcore champion four times and has been a part of several championship tag team duos. 
He is scheduled to wrestle tonight on WWE Raw and is also wrestling Tuesday night to retain his WWE and ECW titles during the "Extreme Rules Match" on the Sci-Fi channel. 
Both Brunk and Szatowski are scheduled to appear at 10 a.m. Thursday in Ironton Municipal Court. Both wrestlers won their matches last night in Huntington, W.Va. Van Dam defeated the Big Show and Sabu defeated Justin Credible. 
When troopers approached his vehicle, they smelled marijuana and performed a search. Troopers found the wrestler in possession of 18 grams of marijuana and five Vicodin, prescription pain pills. Brunk was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia and also had nine pills that were not immediately identifiable.
should this be posted or have to wait?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.68.71 (talk) 17:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a real and potentially important story for Terry Brunk. The article as a whole can't be posted as it falls under copyright but a reference to the arrests with a link to the Ironton Tribune would seem okay. -EvWill 00:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabu and RVD arrested for drugs 

message: Sabu Is supposed to be Arabian. So why are they Billing him to be from Bombay?--Ajay the Wrestling Fan—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.76.231 (talk) 14:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, sabu was born December 12, 1964, Detroit, Michigan, USA, and besides his uncle is from Lebanon, lebanon and india are on two different ends of Asia, but thats  just his uncle, SABU IS AMERICAN, actually, it might not sound pretty but thats how it is!!! --T00C00L 15:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His gimmick says that's he's from Bombay, India, that's kayfabe. However, as a rib, they announced him as being from Bombay, Michigan a few times in the old ECW. Through most of his career, his gimmick of being a "savage" prevented him from speaking English, but he does that now, appearently for a multi-million dollar contract you learn English pretty quickly :-P Romis 13:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text:  Hello everybody, When I typed out "Sabu Is supposed to be Arabian. So why are they Billing him to be from Bombay?--Ajay the Wrestling Fan", I was a fourteen-year old hothead who couldn't tell Kayfabe from reality. Now that I've turned 22, landed a job and gained a modicum of maturity, I understand I was a complete idiot back then. :)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Achandar (talk • contribs) 13:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  SABU FROM BOMBAY???? 

message: dis guy is so violent.he hits people with steel chairs,triple jump moonsaults ppl thru tables.he coud put som1 thru a burning table which could kill them.he was taughtby his uncle,and he is from bombay,india.
user:dark-hooded smoker—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark-hooded smoker (talk • contribs) 05:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sabu was born December 12, 1964, Detroit, Michigan, USA, and besides his uncle is from Lebanon, lebanon and india are on two different ends of Asia, but thats just his uncle, SABU IS AMERICAN, actually, it might not sound pretty but thats how it is, and how dare you call this harcore legend a piece of crap, if i get my hands on you!!! --T00C00L 15:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sabu is a violent piece of crap 

message: Sabu is from bombay,india and someone is deleting that he is from bombay,india and saying that he is from the US.He is NOT american,that guy needs knowledge.User:Dark-hooded Smoker—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark-hooded smoker (talk • contribs) 09:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In kayfabe he may be billed as being from Bombay, India, but he is actually from Michigan. Genocidal 05:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: oh come on, you idiot he is NOT indian, ok ,have you even spoken to that guy, well, i know people who have, and he is not indian!!! Sabu was born December 12, 1964, Detroit, Michigan, USA, and besides his uncle is from Lebanon, lebanon and india are on two different ends of Asia, but thats just his uncle, SABU IS AMERICAN, actually, it might not sound pretty but thats how it is!!! --T00C00L 15:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who did this? 

message: Recently I added the XPW Title as one of Sabu's accomplishments towards the top of hte page. Someone removed it, not sure who; I think it is notable enough to be listed so please don't remove it in the future. Thanks.JB196 14:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  XPW Title 

message: Somebody has added his peritage is Indian and Persian. Is it true? I don't know whether it's true or not. But in my opinion, His edit was correct. *~Daniel~*  ☎ 02:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Peritage. 

message: I've added the only Sabu fansite that I've found that's active on the Internet.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.168.148.35 (talk) 23:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thats NOT the only fansite, i know a site complete with videos from his most hardcore and extreme spots and matches, and i also know a sit that show some of his personal out-of-ring photos!!! --T00C00L 16:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: The ones of you who are adamantly saying that he is from Bombay don't realize that wrestling is fake. Yes, WWE says that he is from Bombay. "Sabu" is from Bombay, but Terry Brunk is not. 
As for those of you who are claiming that he can't be from India because he's Arab, i have news for you. There are more Arabs in India than there are total people in the United States, even as far as Bombay.
Oh.. and all you people who think because WWE says he's from india, think he has to... learn how to spell. I cud barely understand wat u wur saing—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.23.168.106 (talk) 03:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, now that thats settled that He is NOT from India, which he is NOT from, actually, but one thing is that there are NO arabians in india, ok, cuz i speak hindi (main idian language) even though im NOT indian myself and have no relation or connection to india, i know that there are NO arabians in india, i have all the knowledge on indians and my dad (whose also NOT indian) has been there hundreds of times, ok, ik know that there are NO arabias in india, there are barely much arabians in Pakistan either (i am NOT Pakistani ether). T00C00L 15:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  For all you marks out there 

message: THIS IS HIS OFFICIAL SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
officialsabu.com
its run by the same guy who runs the sandmans official site, stop removing this, it is the home of the official sabu forum—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.16.220 (talk) 09:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  STOP REMOVING HIS OFFICIAL SITE 

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support as per proposal. The previous move was not made in accordance with the proposal at that time. -- Beardo 00:05, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Sabu is a Detroit Guy who thinks that wearing an Arab headgear Makes him an Indian.Pal,Sabu is AMERICAN and he's Just takin advantage of your Ignorance(apologies!!!) Best regards to all the Page guys-----Ajay the Wrestling Fan—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.51.5 (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, you'd think that someone with a name like "Ajay the wrestling fan" wouldn't be too stupid to distinguish between a gimmick and someone who is legitimately trying to pass himself off as Indian. 65.189.210.173 08:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TO REMOVE YOUR CONFUSION 

message: I know that there are a lot of people who do not know this but Sabu did have a wife and her name was Mibu and she was from Japan. So DO NOT remove the information in the Personal Life section. Thank you.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.12.146.250 (talk) 04:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They have not split up. Stop adding that without a reputable source that says its true.JB196 04:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, i added that info like TWO YEARS AGO but it was deleted, besides i got Sabu's wedding photos!!! --Too Cool 03:52, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sabu and Mibu

message: Hey ya little dumcrap, Dark Hooded Smoker, ya know that wrestling is not real and Sabu is very talented because he does violent stuff and doesnt kill people! THATS HOW WRESTLING WORKS It is an art! You have to be talented! Sabu rocks and Dark-Hooded Smoker can suck my balls!
Did you even watch wrestling over the years. Id love to see if you could go through half of the stuff Sabu did. And anyway WWE in general IS violence—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.28.60 (talk) 02:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey DUm Dum 

message: Fine I admit it I am a dumb wikipedian but can someone please out his career by years! It helps me cause i know when he was in TNA, ECW, or WWE! So please. Thanks, Erik—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.253.28.60 (talk) 02:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  It seems as if this article is totally messed up 

message: Sabu is listed on here at 6'.  Looking at him in the ring, he appears much shorter than 6'.  Anyone know if 6' is accurate or what his real height is?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.24.238.117 (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Height

message: I don't know, but if you read the Mr. Kennedy interview about the MitB http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/exclusives/42607961, they talks about Kennedy beating 7 world champions. If you see the World Champions criteria, Sabu it's just a one time World Champion, but a NWA World Heavyweight Champion. Isn't that a fact for any article in Wikipedia? Xbox6 02:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Champion recognize 

message: Since Sabu (not Terry Brunk the person, but Sabu the persona) is an Arabian, I tought it might add some extra value to discuss the presentation of his gimmick to audiences in the article. Like the thing he wears in the head when entering (don't know the name, if anyone does, PLEASE tell me) and, AFAIK, the belt also. Just a tought, but please, at least tell me the name of such ornaments if anyone happens to know it.Vicius 03:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ornamenting 

message: :To "Dark-hooded Smoker": Sabu is from Detroit you halfwit retard. Just like the Highlanders and Roddy Piper are billed from Scotland, but they're really from the states.
:Funny fact, Sabus match at Summerslam 2005/6 (i forget which one) against the Big Show was funny, when Sabu went to DDT the Big Show onto that table set-up he slipped on the table, took a second to fix it while the Big Show stood there, which allowed the Big Show to put him through the table, thusly reversing the DDT attempt. 70.49.206.25 01:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am ImmortalKaine by the way, haven't logged in yet.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.206.25 (talk) 01:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Info 

message: I think the opening paragraph should be altered a little bit. It says that Sabu developed his high-risk hardcore wrestling technique while in ECW. Sabu was doing high risk stuff before he was in ECW. I think a more appropriate wording would be that Sabu refined his high-risk hardcore wrestling technique while in ECW. I'm gonna go ahead and make the edit, and if anyone disagrees they can change it back and we can discuss it here.Mwutz 21:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph 

message: Yes, we know, various sites are reporting that he's been released.  But these sites are as reliable as a life jacket made of lead, so until WWE releases a statement, all attempts at introducing unverified rumors will be reverted on sight, without comment. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the page is now fully locked.  Good work.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WWE.com has verified his release. Bmg916SpeakSign 00:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Link? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sabu released I'll leave it on your talk page too, since I left a note there. Bmg916SpeakSign 00:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There, was that so hard folks?  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I didn't think so, pretty painless to me. Bmg916SpeakSign 00:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release 

message: Does anybody know what religion Sabu is? Islam?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirali93 (talk • contribs) 07:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think his religion is Islam. But We need to find any sources that says that either he is muslim or not. Daniel 5127 02:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: That bit about Chris Benoit and the "Crippler" moniker should be moved to the Chris Benoit article as it pertains more to Chris Benoit than anything else.  It doesn't belong in the personal life part of the article.  Mr. C.C. 06:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Benoit & The Crippler Moniker 

message: In the article about the TNA Video Game it says that Sabu will be a legend on that game, also its confirmed that he will be a legend on WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 ECW Invasion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.248.101 (talk) 19:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Video Games

message: Doesn't his luggage always gets stolen when he was working with WWE? Then he would always end up wearing Daivari's pants in his matches.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.139.65 (talk) 04:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luggage 

message: He was set to appear on TNA recently, to run in to save Abyss, but he missed his flight and the spot was given to Rhino.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.179.66 (talk) 06:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TNA 

message: A lot of the stuff seems to mention Sabu working in HWF. I didn't watch at this time, but I believe all of that stuff is ECW, either Extreme Championship or possibly Eastern Championship. I didn't want to change it in case I'm ignorant to the existance of an HWF, just wanted to point it out in case it's incorrect. --Jimmy Wang Yu: Version 2 (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  HWF 

message: to move to Terry Brunk
:Quantifier. RandySavageFTW (talk) 18:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Support Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Oppose:Better known as Sabu. Quantifier or not.--WillC 06:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Support - per Talk:Steve Borden#Requested move.--SRX 18:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Support Darrenhusted (talk) 08:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sabu (wrestler)]] → [[Terry Brunk]] 

message: Is it me or is it just a fantasy wrestling league that has nothing to do on this page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.229.171.156 (talk) 02:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  HCW 

message: The current redirect of Cocoa Samoa to Terry Brunk is incorrect. Cocoa/Coco Samoa was the wrestling name of John Reiher who worked the Memphis territory briefly as "Sabu the Wildman." It's two completely different people. http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/c/coco-samoa.html and a match of his can be viewed here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29TbKRfIn5M DX927 (talk) 07:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cocoa Samoa Redirect 

message: It says in the infobox that he is retired.  Although it makes no mention in the article that he is retired or has been contemplating it.  There is not even a citation beside the year of his retirement in the infobox.  I purpose that it should cited for confirmation or else removed.  Mr. C.C. (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retired? 

message: shouldn't the spike be in there hes the only person ive ever seen use it so i should be in thereWrestlings Savior (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Favorite Weapons

message: Titan012 (talk) 07:55, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: USWA

message: Should there be a mention of Maffew's botchamania series?  Sabu is a regular feature and actually has a couple of videos dedicated to his botches.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.183.140 (talk) 18:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Botchamania

message: From the article:He began his wrestling career in 1985 in the Sheik's promotion, Big Time Wrestling,...Big Time Wrestling went out of business in 1980.  Georgia Championship Wrestling took over Michigan and Ohio and ran shows there regularly until Jim Crockett took them over.  It could have been another promotion affiliated with Ed Farhat, though I doubt it was of the same magnitude.RadioKAOS (talk) 01:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are probably multiple independent promotions run under the BTW moniker. However, locally Farhat ran and may very well still be in charge of an organization that used to air its matches late night weekends on local TV as AWWL (All-World Wrestling League) BIG TIME WRESTLING.ADg2k14 (talk) 08:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clear a few things up: yes, "Big Time Wrestling" was a common brand name and television program title for wrestling programs for many years.  When I say "Ed Farhat", I'm referring to Ed Farhat aka "The Sheik", who died at the beginning of 2003, which means that he most certainly is not still promoting wrestling events.  Ed Farhat, Jr. was an announcer and promoter for his father, so perhaps that's what you're referring to.  The Big Time Wrestling I was talking about was Johnny Doyle's old Detroit-based promotion, which was one of the hottest territories in the entire United States from about the end of the 1960s to the latter part of the middle 1970s.  Though I was born in the Great Lakes region, I didn't start watching wrestling until late 1979, when we had already moved to Alaska, cable television was a brand-new thing and Georgia Championship Wrestling was the ONLY thing on cable worth watching (curiously, my first memory of GCW was of Bobby Heenan managing Killer Karl Kox, the latter of whom was a big star in Detroit some years before).  Resultantly, I have no firsthand knowledge of the fate of Farhat's promotion, just what I've read from numerous accounts (both wrestling-centric and not) of the auto industry being in dire straights in 1979 and 1980 and the ripple effect it had on the economy in Michigan.  The same thing happened with multiple wrestling promotions in the oil-patch states of the southern U.S. during 1985–89 when oil prices collapsed.  Here in Alaska, another place heavily reliant upon the oil economy, the majority of our financial institutions (e.g. banks and S&Ls, though not necessarily limited to that) went out of business due to being too heavily invested in real estate.  As I watched GCW on-and-off during the early 1980s, they did bumpers wherein Freddie Miller would announce upcoming shows, with a great many of them in Michigan, Ohio and West Virginia rather than Georgia.  Jim Barnett and Verne Gagne took advantage of their superior television exposure and expanded their respective territories into dead or dying "rival" territories in the early 1980s, which could very well have motivated Vince McMahon's expansion a few years later.  As for AWWL, I'm sure I've watched episodes on YouTube before and had the impression it was George Cannon's promotion, and could very well have been the same as the Windsor-based television program referred to in his article. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  03:12, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

text: I try to avoid YouTube when I'm connected through my phone, as it eats up my data limit.  However, I was on another computer the other day and looked up AWWL again just to be sure.  I guess the Cannon program/promotion I refer to above was something else.  The lineage of AWWL to The Sheik is made obvious not only by the usage of the Big Time Wrestling title, but the endless recycling of old clips of his matches and the constant presence of Sabu in other segments.  However, we should avoid making a big deal out of this promotion just because it's "the latest fashion".  There's an obvious world of difference between selling out Cobo Arena in Detroit every two weeks for years and years and years, and selling out a high school or community center gym in Monroe every now and then. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  07:38, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Bogosity check

message: My phone is too slow to browse the revision history any time soon.  Is "Sabudododo" in the infobox vandalism or no?RadioKAOS (talk) 23:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism.  I've reverted. NiciVampireHeart 12:06, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism?

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message: Has not retired he wrestled JCW and still does Indy shows 184.17.167.56 (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabu