Talk:John Young (advisor)

message: Isaac Davis was born about 1758 in Milford Haven, Pembroke, Wales. He died in Apr 1810 in Kawaihae, Hawaii, Hawaii. He married Kalakuna in 1802 in Honolulu, Hawaii. 
Other marriages: 
Nakai, 
Died at age 52.
Kalakuna. married Isaac Davis in 1802 in Honolulu, Hawaii. 
Other marriages: 
Davis, Isaac 
They had the following children: 
   M i George Hueu Davis Sr. was born on 10 Jan 1800. He died on 31 Dec 1873.  
   F ii Elizabeth "Betty" Peke Davis was born on 12 Feb 1803.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.43.98 (talk) 19:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Isaac Davis (Hawaii)]] 

message: In the name of God, Amen! Whereas, I, John Young, being of sound and perfect mind, thanks be to God for the same, but of infirm health, do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following, namely: 
First, I hereby bequeath and confirm my dear wife Mary, otherwise called Kuamoo, in possession of all those lands which she antecedent to the date herself has received in free gift from me, To Wit: One land situated in the District of Puna and called Kamomoa; also one land situated in the District of Hamakua and called Koloakiu ; also four lands situated in the District of Kohala, namely : Opuowao, Hoomaliohalaoa, Kealahewa, and Kaupo, all on the Island of Hawaii ; further, all the rest and residue of the lands which I hold possession of under the King and Chiefs of the Sandwich Islands, To Wit : Twenty-three lands on the Island of Hawaii, namely: Kukuihala, Waikahekahe-nui, Waikahekahe-iki, in the District of Puna ; Kukuwau-nui and Kukuwau-iki, in the District of Hilo; Waikoloa, Waiaka-nui, Waiaka-iki, Ouli, Kapaa, Waika, Kiiokalani, and Kawaihae, in the District of Kohala ; Hianaloli, Kahului, Pahoehoe-nui, Pahoehoe-iki, Pahoa, Kaopapa, Kalama, Kiilae, and two small Ilis at Kailua, in the District of Kona. Five lands on the Island of Maui, namely: Ulaino in the District of Hana, Halehaku in the District of Hamakualoa, Honokahua in the District of Kaanapali, Kapaloakua and Halea in the District of Lahaina. One land on the Island of Lanai called Maunalei. One land on the Island of Molokai called Kupeke, and two lands on the Island of Oahu, namely : Halawa in the District of Ewa, and Pahoa in the District of Waikiki. I give and bequeath to be equally divided between my surviving children and the surviving children of my departed friend, the late Isaac Davis, of Milford in England, in such manner as it may please His Majesty the King and his Chiefs; Provided always that each and all of the said children receive a just and equal portion. Further, all the rest and residue of my estate, goods and chattels, I give and bequeath to be equally divided among my surviving children, such division to be superintended by His Britanick Majesty's Consul residing at the time of my decease at the Sandwich Islands, or such person or persons as he, the said Consul, may appoint. Further, I nominate, constitute and Appoint Alexander Adams and Thomas Charles Byde Rooke Joint Executors of this my last Will and Testament, hereby revoking all other and former Wills by me at any time heretofore made. 
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty-six day of June in the year of Our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty-four.  
(Sgd.) JOHN YOUNG. [Seal.]  
Witnessed (in due form) by  
Dan. T. Aboon,  
Chas. Titcomb. 
(Endorsed on back) :  
"Ua ae an i ka olelo o keia palapala no ka olelo ana  
e nana wau i ka aina o kana man keiki e hoohalikelike  
lakou ika aina aole ehemo iki ko lakou mau aina he aina  
kauoha a hiki aku i ka lakou mau keiki mau hope e nana  
kolakou noho ana ike au nei.  
(Sgd.) KAUIKEAOULI.  
Witnessed by RICHARD CHARLETON,  
H. B. M's. Consul for the Sandwich,  
Society and Friendly Islands.
Hi!  I have been investigating whether "John Young" was born in Lancaster England or was part of the Cape Cod Young family.  Please see http://capecodhistory.us/genealogy/family/f623.html#f527 
Although the Cape Cod Young family claims that John Young is actually David Young son of Jonathan and Rebecca 6 M David Young 71
            AKA: John Young
           Born: 2 Feb 1759 - Billingsgate (Eastham), Massachusetts 71
       Baptized: 
           Died: Dec 1835 - Hawaii 78
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Joanna Walker (Est 1762-      )
           Marr: Est 1780
(see link).  He also appears to have had a family on Provincetown in Cape Cod, so I think the connection is less likely.  I think that maybe John Young was actually Jonathan Young son of Jonathan and Rebecca 
2 M Jonathan Young 71
           Born: 5 Aug 1752 - Billingsgate (Eastham), Massachusetts 71
       Baptized: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
This puts him as the right age to be a companion to Issac Davis and also makes sense why he would send his children to school in Boston.  
Jonathan or David's sister was Rebecca Harding Young who married Dr. John Young in 1776.  Dr. John Young was late of Lewes in England.  For whatever reason, when the Endeavor shipped out - -it may have been politic to be from "England".
Dr. John Young died in 1820 in Quincy Ma. and his wife Rebecca Harding Young lived out her following years in Maine.  (It was her daughter Pamela aka Parmelia that moved to Chicago and claimed to be a niece of John Young of Hawaii.  I do have a picture from 1870? of the family (Abner Young son of Dr. John Young) by their house in Maine.  Would you like to see that to see if there is any resemblance?
Hope all is well and best regards, 
 161618dot (talk) 20:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF JOHN YOUNG 

message: He was born in England and identified as "British" by most sources, but was on an American ship. It might be interesting to hear how and when he got across the Atlantic. For example, what he did during the American revolutionary war. Expecially given his son died in the war of 1812 on the American side. W Nowicki (talk) 18:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he being a British cannot be questioned.  I not sure if he called himself a British but most source even primary sources like George Vancouver and Hiram Bingham calls him British. His tombestone point out his birthplace.  As for his allegiance I don't really know but in the end he became Hawaiian.  Its likely he fought in the Revolutionary War. Check this. I read it a while back and was going to incorporated most of the stuff in but I not up to it anymore. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  British or American? 

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