Talk:South Philadelphia

message: There is not a brand new WAL-MART in the shopping center i deleted that info. WAL-MART has been there for years. IKEA was the first new store at Columbus Commons. I also added the name, because it was left out.UnReaL 00:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This mainly has to do with the information in the second para, though none of the information in the section as a whole is cited. The information seems to have been added by the same user who is know to add information about demographics on the Pennsylvania article, as well as several other articles involving places in PA. The user normally edits under a ip address and lists his source as simply www.census.gov. However other users as well as my self have not been able to verify any of these stats either by the census website or other websites, also considering that the information being put into the article by the user was for stats that the census had yet to even compile. The stats in the section should be considered dubious at best and should be considered for removal unless a credible, verifiable , source can be found and cited. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 05:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not verified, Demographics 

message: An increase in immigration has given South Philadelphia significant populations from Italy, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, China, Russia, and Mexico, as well as smaller populations from dozens of nations across the world. 
I'm not sure if it was a typo, because they spoken of Italian-American's later, but there has been no significant immigration from Italy to South Philadelphia, or Philadelphia period, in a very long time. Probably nearly a century. The same can be said to pretty much all the U.S., but I'll take Italy out of there and leave the rest of the countries. Here's how it'll read:
An increase in immigration has given South Philadelphia significant populations from Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, China, Russia, and Mexico, as well as smaller populations from dozens of nations across the world. 
Also, this isn't on the same topic, but it's insulting to African-Americans to not mention them as a primary ethnicity in the neighborhood, yet mention other's. I know it might seem as unique to Philadelphia, since the city has a high African-American population, and it's lower than the average of the city, but to not mention it, yet groups such as Cambodians or Russians, who probably combine don't even add up to one percent, is peculiar.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.112.131 (talk) 17:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No evidence to show recent Italian immigration to Philadelphia 

message: South Philadelphia's immigration, primarily from Italy and Ireland, lead to the neighborhood becoming almost all Roman Catholic.
This statement deliberately and nearly intentionally disregards African-American's. The article even mentions African-American migrants impact on South Philadelphia. Most arrived at the same time as Italian and Polish Catholic immigrants. Most African-Americans are not Catholic, but rather Baptist or Protestant denominations. Also, if African-American's currently make up about 30% of South Philadelphia's population, it would have had to been much more in the early-twentieth century, since most Latino, Asian and Eastern European immigrants have not arrived. It could have been as high as 40-50% of the population, meaning it's possible Catholics didn't make up the majority of South Philadelphia's population back than. 
The area continued to grow, becoming a vital part of Philadelphia's large industrial base and attracting immigrants from Italy, Ireland, Poland, and many other countries, as well as Black American migrants from the southern United States, in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
After this quote, here's another quote that completely disregards African-American's influence on South Philadelphia.
These immigrants became the basis of South Philadelphia's unique and vibrant culture that would develop over the next several decades.
African-Americans who came to Philadelphia in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century were obviously not immigrants, but rather migrants. Their reasons for leaving their respective places has similarities and differences, but the reason they chose South Philadelphia was mostly the same, which was industrialization, which provided lots of jobs. So, I'll be adding and migrants after These immigrants. Here's how it'll read.
These immigrants and migrants became the basis of South Philadelphia's unique and vibrant culture that would develop over the next several decades.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.112.131 (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How could South Philadelphia nearly entirely be all Catholic if African-American's make up significant proportion? 

message: Many of South Philadelphia's communities are largely Italian American, and many neighborhoods in South Philadelphia are known as "Little Italys."  
Without reference to what neighborhoods those are and citation to back that, the part of the sentence after the comma is useless.
I'll be adding this under the history tab too.
African-Americans are the largest ethnicity in South Philadelphia, constituting for 33% of the population.
 
It is a fact that African-Americans are the largest ethnicity in South Philadelphia, constituting for 33% of the city's population, which is 2-3 percent higher than Italian-Americans. It may be more unique that South Philadelphia has a percentage of an Italian population 4 to 5 times the average of Philadelphia. And South Philadelphia is actually about 10% less African-American than the average of Philadelphia. It doesn't negate the fact that African-American's are the largest ethnicity in this section of the city though. TomNyj0127 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revising and adding quotes 

message: I think it is relevant to add that Market Street is additionally considered the northern border. I have grown up knowing them as that, as have many others. Anybody else agree? NecroticallyDelicious (talk) 02:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Border Commentary

message: Many of South Philadelphia's communities are largely Italian American. An increase in immigration has given South Philadelphia significant populations from Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Italy, Russia, and Mexico, as well as smaller populations from dozens of nations across the world.
This quote is misleading and shows irrelevance. It starts out by mentioning many of South Philadelphia's communities are largely Italian American which is accurate. Than it says there are immigrants from several obvious countries and throws Italy into that mix. Italian immigrants in the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth century were previously mentioned in the article along with Irish and Polish immigrants, and black American migrants from the south. There is no present wave of Italian immigrant to South Philadelphia nor has there been for ~85+ years. Please cite sources when you write things that are obviously skeptical. Also, do not re-post information after that has been deleted without saying you'll do so. That is disrespectful.
TomNyj0127 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is no recent Italian immigration to South Philadelphia 

message: South Philadelphia is traditionally working-class and highly unionized. This has resulted in a heavily Democratic populace.
This quote is not cited and doesn't make sense. The reason South Philadelphia is mostly Democrat is because the rest of the city is and much of the region is. The whole city and smaller cities in the surrounding area have always been unionized. Please explain more or provide more citation. TomNyj0127 (talk) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete and uncited quote 

message: I will continue to delete Italy from being named one of the modern immigrant countries to South Philadelphia until citation is provided. I've asked for you to provide a citation and/or explanation and you refuse to. We will just keep going back and forth until than. TomNyj0127 (talk) 15:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still no citation to claim that there are a significant amount of modern Italian immigrants in South Philadelphia 

message: The link provided for St. Maria Goretti High School takes you to some school in Maryland, and not the page for the (former) high school in South Philly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syounan Taji (talk • contribs) 06:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong link for Maria Goretti 

message: I've removed unsourced claims, mostly concerning the ethnic make-up of the area twice. Please do not update or "correct" this information without citing reliable sources. Mentioning or describing sources in the edit summary is not the same as citing them. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced 

message: The "Crime" section seems to me to be ... er ... a little weak! Like: Do dealers anywhere actually publicise their activities? As from a certain level of secretiveness, there ain't a drugs problem, 'cos no one knows where to score. And surely, in South Philly, there's more stuff going down than just this??? More on this, from someone who knows the scene, would be very interesting. Maelli (talk) 16:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crime 

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message: someone should check a map before they publish.  According to you I do not live in any neighborhood.   S. Beulah and mollbore terrace.  Do your homework. 71.244.105.4 (talk) 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neighborhood boundaries