Talk:Belinda Neal

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:In June, 2008, Neal and Della Bosca were dining in Iguana's, a licensed venue in Gosford, NSW, when an argument erupted over a request for them to move to an outside table.  Neal, it was alleged, threatened to have the premises closed and to organise to have police attend regularly as a result of her disappointment with the service.  It was said that the request to move was one made of all patrons, so that a dance floor could be used.  Mr Golla said Ms Neal followed him to the club's cash office, a restricted area, and began screaming at him when he asked to her wait outside. 
:"Ms Neal replied: 'I will have your f****** licence, he said. 
:"You will not be trading in three months time. What's your f****** name? I will have your job as well. I will have the f****** police down here every weekend to close you down. 
:Mr Golla said he ordered Ms Neal to leave the premises or he would contact the police. 
:He said this resulted in Mr Della Bosca entering the argument. 
:"Mr Della Bosca approached in an aggressive manner, pointing his finger in my face, Mr Golla said. "Mr Della Bosca said words to the effect of: `You don't want to call the police'. 
:Mr Golla said Ms Neal yelled: "Don't you know who I am? 
:This unsavoury incident came within a fortnight after Neal was caused to apologise to a Federal Liberal Member of Parliament, Sophie Mirabella, over a partially disputed comment by Neal to the effect that Mirabella's unborn child would be born "a demon" as a result of "impure thoughts". According to Mr Golla's statutory declaration, Ms Neal informed him that his staff were rude and needed to be sacked. 
And where are the sources for these claims exactly? There is 1 source relating to the issue and doesnt contain most of this. Timeshift (talk) 03:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything above has been reported in the press, but this is way, way undue weight. I'd say it does warrant mention in a sentence or two though: there's still reports in today's press that the incident could have unsavory consequences for Della Bosca, I doubt it helps Neal's chances of re-election any, and I dare say it's probably the first time she's made the front page of the Sydney press. Rebecca (talk) 04:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. My issue here however is an entire defamatory conversation is on wikipedia without a citation. At the least, it needs a cite, at the most, it needs a re-write. But again agreed, noteworthy. Timeshift (talk) 04:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The new changes look pretty good to me. Rebecca (talk) 08:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Timeshift (talk) 08:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

text: It would be unwise to call this "defamatory" when four witnesses have signed statutory declarations corraborating this version of events. Kransky (talk) 02:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They would be the statutory declarations witnessed by a Liberal Party staffer, given to the Sunday Telegraph by the same Liberal staffer and withdrawn by the restaurant management? WWGB (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, only the statutory declarations by the manager and one other worker have not been withdrawn - and irrespective who witnessed them they still carry the same legal weight.  Kransky (talk) 04:56, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it shouldn't contain a blow by blow tabloid unverifiable account which has questionable WP:RS. It also shouldn't contain repeated "f******"'s. A summary of the incident is all that is needed. Timeshift (talk) 00:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

text: We need a good source, but I'm concerned that whitewashing is going on here. This incident is the major incident in Neal's career and it should be given due prominence. --Pete (talk) 11:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't personally know my way around the Australian media but if it is a major incident it shouldn't be hard to find a couple of reliable sources. - Pointillist (talk) 13:12, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: :"She asked Dr Nelson if he had received a letter from her," Ms Bishop said yesterday.
:"He said that he had not. She said, 'You have got a letter from me - I'm demanding an apology for what you said about me'.
:"She was menacing in her tone, she was walking very close to Dr Nelson, so I moved out into the aisle to stand between them."
Sounds like Bishop and Nelson need a tissue if you ask me, it is a complete storm in a teacup. Note how it happened a week ago but Bishop only brought it to light upon Neal being cleared of any wrongdoing? Timeshift (talk) 04:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As mush as I dislike Belinda Neal all the above is just an allegation with no proof other then Bishop and Nelson, therefore shouldn't be in this article. If it did happen someone on that flight would have leaked it to the media by now. Bidgee (talk) 04:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  not notable IMO. Two pollies from different parties had a blue. Big deal. --Surturz (talk) 04:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree as well. Bishop says Neal was vaguely "menacing", Neal says she wasn't, Nelson says nothing. Wikipedia articles are not an indiscriminate mass of information, and inclusion of this kind of minor one-day wonder of a story gives it undue weight compard to its actual importance. Euryalus (talk) 04:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Nelson incident - is it really noteable? 

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