Talk:Cleveland steamer

message: Votes
Choice   	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th
Keep     	20 	12 	21 	11 	23 	18 	9  	10
Delete   	3  	10 	13 	7  	13 	4  	9  	7
Merge    	0  	1  	2  	0  	3  	0  	1  	1
Transwiki	0  	0  	0  	0  	1  	8  	0  	0
Total    	23 	23 	36 	18 	39 	30 	19 	18
 Percentages
Choice   	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th
Keep     	87%	52%	58%	61%	59%	60%	47%	56%
Delete   	13%	43%	36%	39%	31%	13%	47%	38%
Merge    	0% 	4% 	6% 	0% 	8% 	0% 	5% 	6%
Transwiki	0% 	0% 	0% 	0% 	2% 	27%	0% 	0%
Seeing as we have had lots of afd's on this, I thought that it would be interesting to see how opinions have changed over the different deletion attempts. When I was counting these I counted everything that was a clear vote, using the first vote for people who voted for multiple things. I have counted every vote, i.e. I haven't removed votes from new/unregistered users. I also counted merges and redirects as the same thing. --Apyule 11:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The merits haven't changed.  The article has never stopped belonging here. --badlydrawnjeff talk 20:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Results for all deletion attempts

message: Votes
Choice   	Totals	Percentages
Keep     	124   	60%
Delete   	66    	32%
Merge    	8     	4%
Transwiki	9     	4%
Total    	206   	100%
As we get even more AfD's, I thought it would be interesting to see what the results wold be if results from previous discussions were included. It's interesting how clear the keep consensus appears over a large sample like this. One big thing that this doesn't take into account is people who have voted in multiple polls. It would be interesting to see what effect this has on the results, but I can't think of a way of doing it that wouldn't take ages. Any ideas out there? --Apyule 13:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: If there was only one count that included everything..

message: hey im going to delete the whole john cena bit
if you look at the video you'll see that he was joking
:Agreed. Deleting it now. -Elmer Clark 23:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: deleted

message: There's a lot of stuff that doesn't apply directly to the steamer, so it needs removed badly.  I will do so.  I will leave things that say "cleveland steamer" and refer to shitting on someone's torso. Mr Spunky Toffee 20:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I will remove irrelevant trivia now.

message: Please, Jeff, don't remove the tags until the concerns are addressed properly.  I didn't tag this article lightly or just for fun. Mr Spunky Toffee 11:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the external link issue, so that tag was no longer necessary.  In fact, the two that go to the Amazon reader actually go to the parts of the book in the sample Amazon provides as a service to readers.  As the "external links" are actually "references" to the article, the tag is inappropriate anyway.  Your "too much trivia" tag is also no longer an issue, that section has been trimmed. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I will be removing any tags that have not been discussed and asserted for relevance at this talk page in 24 hours.  At least three of the tags on the page at the moment are blatantly false, but I'll assume good faith for the moment. --badlydrawnjeff talk 13:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Please don't remove tags!

message: This article needs to be restored immediately. --JJay 22:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was 6 actually. Thankfully it back now. The admin in this case was clearly crossing the line. --64.229.73.225 22:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WTF

message: The below subsection was deleted and restored. WAS 4.250 01:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't we shrink it down so it isn't just a large mismash of other articles? --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That doesn't make it better, it makes it a nonsensical mess. As I said in my edit summary when I removed that the last time, you've simply copied and pasted sections from other articles into this one. It doesn't attempt to relate these things to the subject at all, and most of the selections are completely superfluous. WarpstarRider 01:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The article is a better article with the context subsection

message: The article is a better article with the context subsection. WAS 4.250 01:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't we shrink it down so it isn't just a large mismash of other articles? --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That doesn't make it better, it makes it a nonsensical mess. As I said in my edit summary when I removed that the last time, you've simply copied and pasted sections from other articles into this one. It doesn't attempt to relate these things to the subject at all, and most of the selections are completely superfluous. WarpstarRider 01:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I see this article has survived yet another round of contentious debate. However, I wonder if this is simply describing an application of coprophilia, and should just be merged into that. Is it truly that distinctive it needs its own article? In addition, to those individuals who really campaigned hard to sink this article, you may consider petitioning for a new rule, which an article must be able to explain the meaning in each of the article's words. I don't think anyone can adequately explain where the "Cleveland" comes from, thus, making it a suspect article. (I do believe however, it is a spurious description of the socio-economic condition of Cleveland Ohio.)
DigitalPimpette 01:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is, and a merge didn't gain consensus the last two times it was tried. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Safe Again

message: Biggie Smalls definitely recalls a groupie requesting this in a mock(?) telephone interview. 70.5.85.110 02:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biggie Smalls Record 

message: Why are they called Cleveland steamers and not, for example, Boston steamers or Seattle steamers? Scott Gall 06:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How sure are you about that? Cleveland is the name of a company that makes equipment for foodservice. They are well known for their steam tables. Such a unit is called a Cleveland steamer. 204.69.40.13 15:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, what a great name for that company. "Hey, Bill...bring out that Cleveland Steamer full of corn for that Chinese tourist group!"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdylan (talk • contribs) 22:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Surely one of you sexual-slang deviant-thought-police types who keep this article alive despite protestations by many other people can find an image to make this article just so much better. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 20:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  ...don't think I'll volunteer. Jesus, I hope you're kidding. That would ruin my clothes.--ElaragirlTalk|Count 20:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images? 

message: Although I found no article yet written, there is another meaning for the term, and that is a line of kitchen steamers manufactured by Cleveland Range company.  Their website is here: http://www.clevelandrange.com/?oc=cle - an example can be seen here: http://www.clevelandrange.com/nafemproducts.asp?poc=cle&category=0178&article=Convotherm_OGB_6_20 .  At the very least this should be mentioned in the article. Robotman1974 20:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the DAB notice.  This other meaning is not notable, so there isn't and won't be an article about it, so a DAB notice is not needed.  They aren't supposed to list every possible meaning; their purpose is to direct readers to other articles they may be trying to get to.  When there's no article, there needn't be a DAB link. -Elmer Clark 23:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Different meaning and possible disambig

message: This may deserve mentioning in the article or it may just be humourus, but I managed a resteraunt for 2 years that had in it a Cleveland Mk IV Steamer, including an owners manual entitled "How to Operate a Cleveland Steamer". Might be put in there to illustrate non-sexual uses. -Mask  09:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cookin Equipment 

message: I heard that a Cleveland Steamer does not include contact between the feces and the person receiving the act.  It's my understanding that a Cleveland steamer involves a person getting atop a glass table and defecating, while the recipient lies underneath, looking up through the glass.  According to my research, what is described in this article is actually a Boston or Pittsburgh Steamer.  It behooves the wiki community to have vigorous discussion regarding this matter, lest the standards we all hold so dearly be breached by ignorance.
Sincerely, Rupert Murdock72.78.2.195 05:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  accuracy 

message: If someone has time, there seems to be more information at Google news archive that could be added to the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 23:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: None of those references seem to be talking about the sexual act that is the topic of this page --dinomite 14:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Research

message: I think it's in the best interest of decency to delete this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.219.47 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 13 August 2007
:Just letting you know that an attempt to delete the page for that reason would fail because Wikipedia is not censored. If you do want it deleted you are going to need a better reason. --67.71.76.240 03:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Attempt for Deletion

message: Cleveland State University had a shell on the Cuyahoga River called the "Steamer", hence the full name "Cleveland Steamer". The Cuyahoga has also been a very well-trafficked river by commercial ships since the 19th century, making the idea of "steamers" in Cleveland a factual reality. Is any of this trivia worth incorporating (the former obviously isn't, but maybe the latter)? SamuelRiv (talk) 23:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cuyahoga boats 

message: Is the request for images a joke? If so, it's damn funny. Personally, I would be in favor of diagrams over photos, but that's just because I think they're infinitely funnier and patently less offensive. SamuelRiv (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  image request 

message: I believe "Choo Choo Charlie" is a synonym for "Cleveland Steamer"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.22.73 (talk) 00:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  synonym? 

message: The redirect currently points to the top of the Coprophilia article. Would it be a bad idea to point it more specifically to the section Coprophilia#Cleveland steamer? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 03:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: how about deeplinking this to :Coprophilia#Cleveland_steamer, as suggested above? Badmachine (talk) 17:49, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect to section? 

message: Add redirect categories:

Thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 15:47, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . — The Earwig (talk) 05:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 24 April 2021