Talk:Shmuel Katz (politician)

message: you say "rm him being an irgun commander" but that's not true - it says it right in the next paragraph with refs. I don't know what's the purpose of adding even more refs to the article and changing orders of sentences and changing the NY Times definition of spokesman to propaganda and adding all sort of OR and irrelevant info by people who didn't write books or articles about Katz but just mentioned him in passing except POV'ing. Let's leave those weird changes out, everything about this person is told in the article already. There are so many silly changes here like adding "revisionist youth movement" to beitar when there's a wikilink to it. Very strange. Seriously, this attempt of WP:POV by user:Ian Pitchford is bordering on some obssession I've never seen before. He simply has a fixation on the word revisionist, perhaps he thinks it has bad connotations and will smear Katz in some way I dunno, it's just strange. And why on Earth is it relevant his opinion about Dayan out of all people by this writer that "notes it"? and why other sourced material was removed for these changes...like this removed:"historian and jouranlist from amazon" or "Another project for which Katz dedicated many years of his life is the two volume biography of Jabotinsky of 1792 pages, entitled "Lone Wolf, A Biography of Valadimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky." - which brings us to this indeed....  How anal can it be to add "of whom he was a loyal adherent" in the opening sentence of a guy's biography? all very very strange.Amoruso 05:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm beginning to think that you are Katz, Amoruso. You seem to have a great aversion to facts about him appearing anywhere, whilst at the same time you are busy incorporating his opinions as fact into as many Wikipedia articles as possible. --Ian Pitchford 23:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please review WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Comment on edits, not editors. Isarig 23:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please review WP:V Isarig. --Ian Pitchford 18:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have. We have here a book by an historian, published by a mainstream publisher. It meets WP:V. Isarig 19:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide evidence that this is a book by a historian. --Ian Pitchford 19:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hoe you are not implying this is not a book, and this Talk page is full of citations for Katz as an Historian. Please stop this nonsense and your personal campaign to discredit Katz. Isarig 19:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your pompous tone is inappropriate. You cannot add material to this encyclopedia from a source you haven't read. It's also perfectly obvious that you know nothing about Katz and I suggest you stop making disruptive edits on behalf of another editor. I'm still minded to seek a ban against you for your disgraceful behaviour at Palestinian political violence. --Ian Pitchford 21:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have placed one final warning on your Talk page, for repeated personal attacks such as the one above. That is your final warning. Threatening editors with bans over content disputes is disgraceful. Cease and desist immediately form your disruptive behavior. Isarig 21:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well. I will raise your edits with the ArbCom. --Ian Pitchford 21:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd like to see evidence that Katz is a historian and evidence that you have read the book. --Ian Pitchford 20:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidence that Katz is a historian is available, as I wrote, all over this discussion page - take the time to read it. I don't t have to read a book for it to meet WP:V.You are cautioned again to stop violating WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA Isarig 21:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Indeed. Regardless, thanks for the compliment. Please don't insert your fanatic hatred of Katz though in this page again Ian Pitchford. Your edits are not contributing to the article. Please read Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. Your edits to this article have a pattern of displaying a bias. It makes no relevance if you found a mention of Katz somewhere even if is sourced while it adds nothing to the article and is a gross violation of undue weight and even non encyclopedic or verified material like you did, and by doing so you remove other WP:RS which already convey the point. You're not allowed to make any such changes and damage to the article without consensus and using talk first. You also incidentally blanked out sourced material from NY times, Amazon, a review of Lone Wolf it seems, and other sourced material. Do that again and be reported for your misbehaviour. Thank you.  Amoruso 01:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not remove verifiable information from this article again Amoruso. It isn't Wikipedia's role to present a view of Katz consistent with your bias. --Ian Pitchford 18:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pitchford, you've been warned in the past for this behaviour. Amoruso 04:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: The UK National Archives files on him repeatedly call him "Samuel Lejb Katz" and "Samuel Lajb Katz".  Do we have another source for that? Zerotalk 13:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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message: "Psychological Warfare in the Arab-Israeli Conflict" (2014), R. Schleifer, p22: "Etzel was a small, underground movement whose
headquarters was staffed with a few dozen fully employed members backed by a few thousand volunteer reservists, but the organization gave the impression of being widely supported by the Jewish public through the huge number of notices it posted on billboards and its intense propaganda campaign overseas. One of the leading hasbara activists was Shmuel Katz from South Africa. In a one-room Tel Aviv flat, Katz single-handedly set up a news service—the Irgun Press—that posted daily news updates on Etzel activity."      ←   ZScarpia   21:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irgun Press (News Service)