Talk:Victor Vance

message: "Uncertain Death" - I never heard of these claims, nor seen them published by any reputable source. Someone care to make some citations, or is this pure original research? 121.45.230.162 12:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The content of the section is mostly forked from List of characters in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories, which had long included this rumor that mostly circulates among fans. It's well circulated among the circle and is re-added every time it's removed, but it's still non-notable fan cruft and is not cited by notable and reliable sources. This rumor isn't Wikipedia material, so it's OK to be removed. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 13:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's not too late to say, I second this removal; unless it can be sourced (which it can't), it doesn't belong here.  ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §  Contributions ♣ 21:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncertain Death section 

message: There is no need to change the photo of Vic Vance, the first one was fine. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.217.46.128 (talk) 15:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the current image should be replaced for the only reason that it is blurry and taken from the very first trailer for the game. I believe that we should replace it with a more recent and clear image of Victor Vance. .:Alex:. 17:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Alright, now there are who say that Vic was killed in Vice City becuase of the website BUT... They only mention Vic on the website, there is no pic of him on his mini-profile on the website, so that Brother may have still been Pete. So that right there is people just jumping to conclusions and saying "It was Vic" when that source is not all that solid. So lets just keep the "Did Vic die" part on the Vic Vance article to where it is right now.
:Since when did his appearance matter? The file said Victor Vance and that he and Lance were the only two members of the family. And that was made long before VCS and Pete came about, therefore it MUST be Victor who dies at the beginning because Lance definately doesn't. For some reason people just refuse to accept that Vic dies. The whole Pete thing is just pure speculation. - .:Alex:. 15:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Old discussion, man. Editor doesn't even log on anymore.  ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §  Contributions ♣ 04:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Rosenberg tells Tommy that the people they're dealing with are two brothers and the website tells you that the two brothers are Vic and Lance.  Pete is never mentioned once in any dialogue or any material related to GTA: Vice City, meaning the character did not exist at the time.  That is all the hard evidence we have, anything else is pure speculation.  Perhaps the relevant articles need rewording to better reflect that evidence.  Personally, though, the way I see it is that when people say they think it's Pete who dies, what they really mean is that they don't want it to be Vic who dies.  When playing Vice City Stories, you get to "know" Vic, whereas Pete is never seen, so in some peoples mind, Pete is far more dispensable than Vic.  Some people just can't accept that Vic could die in such an inglorious way. Dbam Talk/Contributions 15:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The weird thing is, people keep forgetting that Vic was chosen as the protagonist because he was a character that existed in Vice City. How does this work when it's not him? Plus early beta screenshots show Vic's appearance virtually identical to in Vice City. That's more evidence. But yes, we can only go on hard evidence. Therefore, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, Victor Vance is dead. --.:Alex:. 16:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Death situaion brought up again