Talk:Lionel Wilson (voice actor)

message: Uh, he died after Courage's cancellation, so there is no way an episode can be dedicated to him.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.131.117 (talk) 03:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: If anyone has located an authoritative source for the middle initial "G" and the middle name "Girard", please provide it.  Otherwise, the name should be changed to just "Lionel Wilson".
In addition to his work doing voice-overs for Tom Terrific, Lionel Wilson appeared in four Broadway plays and some 25 other East coast professional stage productions, he wrote a dozen children’s books, he voiced or helped voice more than 100 audiobooks for children, and he did voice-overs for hundreds of other animated cartoons, both film and TV.  I have examined the Broadway Playbills, the contemporary newspaper advertisements of and reviews for his stage appearances, the title pages of his books, the covers of many of his records, and the available copies of the animated cartoons that he voiced, including the Tom Terrific series.  In every case he is identified and credited as “Lionel Wilson”, with no middle name or initial.  His page in the 1946–1947 and 1954–55 editions of Theatre World do not have a middle initial.  The 1955 Social Security record of his formal name change says that his changed name was “Lionel Wilson”.  In personal conversations with both his long-time agent, Richard Seff, and the executor of his will, Ted Tinling, say that they never saw any case when he used a middle name or initial.  Finally, in his recently-published autobiography “and also in the cast . . . ” he does not use a middle name or initial.
There are many Internet web pages that do give the middle initial, including IMDb, which says (incorrectly) that in some works he is credited as Lionel G. Wilson.  But as far as I can tell, these web pages are all recent and unsourced, relying on one another rather than on primary sources.
A possible source of this confusion: The 1970 movie "The Landlord" credits the actor playing Bachelor Number One with the name "Lionel G. Wilson".  But that character is played by a different actor, not the Lionel Wilson who is the subject of this Wikipedia page.
JSaltzer (talk) 02:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name? 

message: An edit on 22 February 2021 by User:MRSoftee
adds to the section on Lionel Wilson's death the words "His body was donated to medical science.", together with a citation to Wilson's entry at FindAGrave and, to the External Links section, a link to FindAGrave.
About a month after Wilson's death, a contributor named "Laurie" appears to have created the FindAGrave record for Wilson.  That record includes the note “Burial:  Body donated to medical science, Specifically: New York University.” More recently, an unknown contributor added a similar note to the "Trivia" section for .  Neither of these contributors cited a source for the information. I am guessing that the source for the IMDb entry may have been the FindAGrave record.
Friends of Wilson have told me that Wilson's body was cremated and, in a private ceremony, his ashes were interred in the Catskill mountains of upstate New York.  On the chance that the FindAGrave report might have been based on an organ donation I inquired of a friend who had access to a copy of Wilson's will.  The reply was that it contains no indication of an organ donation.
Since the reports from Wilson's friends directly contradict the unsourced FindAGrave report, I think it safest that User:MrSoftee's additions to Wilson's Wikipedia page be reversed pending discovery of citable information from a reliable source, for example from the New York University School of Medicine. On that basis I have done the reversal.  I did not add any discussion of the contradiction since citations to private communications are not useful in Wikipedia and anyway would be deprecated by WP:NOR. JSaltzer (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Body donation may not be verified. 

message: An edit on 10 May 2023 by an anonymous user changed the words "voicing unidentified characters" to "voicing Mala Khan", but did not include a citation for this detail.  Since the edit lacked a citation I reverted the edit with a summary that explained that the fact may be correct but it should have a citation of a reliable source.  On 13 May 2023 an anonymous user with a different IP address (but perhaps the same user) manually reverted my reversion, but still did not provide a citation.  Rather than starting WP:EDITWAR I appeal to the anonymous editor to  explain the basis for the detail.
The article cites the YouTube video of "The Secret of Mulan" and in that video the credits at 49:01 list the names of the voice actors but not the characters they voice.
A Google search for "Mala Khan", "Mulan", and "Wilson" leads to about a dozen web pages that list the names of the voice actors in this movie, but I found only one that offers the identity of the character voiced by Wilson: the Fandom wiki "villains.fandom.com/wiki/Mala-Khan".  That wiki page was created on 5 June 2018 by user "Super Poison Ivy", who once was a prolific Fandom editor but has not recently been active. Unfortunately, her posting does not provide a source and there is no bio that describes her expertise.  The lack of a source plus the problem that Fandom is a wiki to which anyone may post means that it does not serve as a reliable source as defined in WP:RELIABLE.
If the anonymous editor can provide a reliable source his or her edit would be welcomed.  JSaltzer (talk) 03:30, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Lionel Wilson voice Mala Khan in the video "The Secret of Mulan"?