Talk:Katharine Lee Bates

message: Did you all know that Bate's credited with creadting the Mrs. Santa Claus character in poetry?  Well, I added a line and referance about it. I found the referance a week or so ago in researching Yenta Claus and was glad to find the Bates article.  I hope this was a welcomed addition  I am sure there is more than meets the browser's eye and digging deeper would turn up more sources regarding this not well known fact. --Bhires 06:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mrs. Claus

message: …In the poem and history of her art and perhaps economics does it state of her beliefs that of God and the Carrectoristic of her writing of the section in which is performed as from Sea to shining Sea as an American Land bases.
My consideration of just a thought while reveiwing the poem is that she as a teacher was of some reference of things performed, which leaves me to beleive that she had studied the past, weather right or wrong, for this may consist of the terming God in which she had used, what exactly does she represent here. It also states on the talk page of America the Beautifull from an individual that she had some what no interest in the poem, that it was for the people to consider, well if that is not interest i do not know what is.
I have a poem writin in consideration of James DeLancey Chief Justice of New York whom passed on in 1760 it may well be a consideration and would not allow anyone to redue it and or change it in any way, which again is also done with her poem. All good it's what we call a free country.
I would acknowledge to read it again. Before all this typeing i did search many an issue from this article as even the representation of vermont and the Johnson whom represented Congress in it's redress formation just to find out how Miss Bates became a christian follower rather then just the study of not only one religion though many, and performed through perhaps as a Congressional practisioner. Who's to say.
Truely the article is great for reading and is very knowledgable, Thank You, the only thing is her Poem of America the Beautifull and what it represents , that is what it represents to me is a justifying situation, it's just the part where someone had added the information of her writing from Sea to shining Sea, that it is only in performance with this American Land jointed as a United States which ofcourse it is. Allthough being miss Bates is of American Born she still is an English Teacher and also gives respect to God, in what way only the other can tell and or concord of , the other is now of the party not of writing it, perhaps meaning a public, she must of respected that, and if so then the sons and daughters well to achieve from her teachings are of quite the relationship , perhaps of her studies, now is the question of how far back does one stop and sence the Art Economics History profile of an establishing livelyhood, till next time. Hows that for respect. I shall go now and review her famous poem, and perhaps relate some consideration towards my anc-es-try. 12:10 A.M. E.S.T. Happy Fourth Of July it's interesting how important it is since it took over a year to acomplish, though how do we actually get that information other then a cut short version.David George DeLancey (talk) 04:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Text of America the Beautiful

message: Based on the recent coke commercial, and subsequent controversy, there is a viral meme going around describing Bates as a lesbian who left the Republican party due to xenophobia. I hav eno comment either way, but involved editors of this article may want to be on alert, as the article is likely to get increased attention for the next bit. Gaijin42 (talk) 02:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  superbowl & coke 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It's the second time this IP address tries to remove content (reference to Katherine Coman and LGBT History Month) from the article. First reason provided "This is inappropriate, unproven, and unnecessary information. Please stop pushing your agenda on our children. Thank you." I suggested the user to move the discussion to the talk page. They did not. They removed the content again. Second reason provided "Dumb". This is an IP address not a user. Is there a way to prevent this disruptive editing? --Elisa.rolle (talk) 22:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Elisa.rolle We just have to keep this article on our watchlist and revert vandalism like that. Thanks for your work. AnaSoc (talk) 01:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  2601:3c8:300:77fa 

message: A new book was published in 2017 by Melinda M. Ponder. I will add some material to the article from the book. It's a good read--Katharine Lee Bates: From Sea to Shining Sea. (2017). Chicago, IL: Windy City Press.AnaSoc (talk) 01:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried to address the concerns raised in the threads above in the text that I added. Two of Faderman's work, the new Ponder biography, and work by D'Emilio and Freedman. I hope that there is better balance, more context, and increased verifiability.AnaSoc (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  new book about Bates 

message: I am interested in this topic and discussion. I tried to view on line specifically the information from the citation given by Chevre Bleue – Spritsail Journal vol. 18, no. 2 (2004). There was not a “Letters” section, even though there is in other Spritsail Journals. I called both the Falmouth Historical Society and Woods Hole Historical Collection. They looked and did not see the “Letters” section in that particular journal. Could the citation be wrong and the information be in a different journal? Is Chevre Bleue still able to help? Thank you.Americancitizen1776 (talk) 16:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I also cannot find the "letters" section in the Spritsail 18(2). But even if there is a letters section, letters are opinion, not a verifiable source. The article is well sourced and cited, and uses academic, scholarly research. I believe that the article as it currently stands presents a balanced view.AnaSoc (talk) 03:22, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification of Discussion 

message: Nothing in the body of the article justifies this passage in the summary (with or without a ref):
Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 00:27, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentoring

message: I note that the debate on Bates’ relationship with Katharine Coman occupies about 40% of the article, and 60% of the Talk Page. On Coman’s Wiki page, it occupies about 5%, and on her Talk Page, just a single mention in passing  -  perhaps a more appropriate allocation, especially in a radical feminist debating environment. Valetude (talk) 12:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topic out of proportion 

message: I know there is a lot of debate on Wiki about terms of definition for minority groups.
‘People of colour’ is the currently approved term for nonwhites (after so many changes in the ground-rules that it may well be superseded in turn). But it was not a phrase that Bates would have used. She would probably have said something like ‘Negroes, Indians and Latins’. Perhaps a direct quote from her writings might be appropriate. Or would it need to be sanitised, as with Mark Twain? Valetude (talk) 13:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology 

message: The text says that Bates and Coman met at Wellesley in 1885 and cites Ellen Leopold's article for the information, but the article doesn't mention that year at all. It only says that they met and "formed an attachment by 1890." It seems that 1885 was the year Bates was hired at Wellesley, so the information isn't necessarily inaccurate, but the source is. 2601:189:4300:7960:58EA:3D10:63E:9522 (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're correct; I've changed the sentence to match the source. Schazjmd (talk) 21:48, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Bates' and Coman's Meeting