Category talk:Organizations

message: Orgs as currently organized are not organized (tongue twister!), that is clear, but this list seems to lose some of the positive complexity that has developed without ridding the negative complexity.  
Take human rights organizations for example, they currently are listed in 
*:Category:Charities and various subcategories such as :Category:International charities and :Category:Humanitarian aid and :Category:Development charities
*:Category:Non-governmental organizations and various subcats such as :Category:International non-governmental organizations
*:Category:Non-profit organizations which is mostly just broken out by country of origin
*:Category:Human rights bodies, which is confusingly a subset of :Category:Civic and political organizations
*:Category:Civil rights and :Category:Peace organizations 
*:Category:Advocacy groups
and I'm sure myriad others.  
I think non profit, non governmental organizations and charities should be collapsed into one category, with a clear reference to the various regional usages (e.g. non profit is generally U.S. term, NGO everywhere else).  Divisions by issue should be standarized.  e.g. see :Category:Activism by issue and :Category:Advocacy groups for the various approaches currently being taken.  In dividing by geogrpahy, seems that cats like :Category:International non-governmental organizations should be eliminated in favor of regional or country cats. Eek my head hurts.  Look forward to engaging more on this issue.
Scarykitty 08:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non profits NGOs etc

message: We're discussing this issue here, but we may migrate that discussion to this Talk instead. Let me know what you'd prefer. I think this place is more central to the discussion, as we'll be building up our master list of organizations from this category. As I suggested, I think we should start first by distinguishing nonprofit and forprofit organizations. I suspect very few of these will be forprofit, so we can instead focus on categorizing the nonprofits. OptimistBen (talk) 12:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Related Discussion

message: oh, oh -- I think I figured it out: The "legal status" ("charities", "non-profit organizations") is usually country-specific legal terminology. So we should combine this with the country terms, which are usually in need of subdivision anyway. For instance, :Category:Charities based in the United Kingdom, and :Category:Non-profit organizations based in the United States.  Then subject-oriented classifications can avoid being entangled with the legal structure/organization issues, which vary from place to place. --Lquilter (talk) 16:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. Adding the country is OK, but I should also be able to look at a Category page for all of a certain type of organization. Then I should be able to expand that to look at only that type of organization ins a certain country. Also, it's best to use definite terms rather than vague terms, which is why I agree that we should avoid categorizing organizations by whether they are NGOs. Non-profit is a definite legal classification. OptimistBen (talk) 21:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: approach!

message: * There are three definitions for "voluntary organisations", none of which appear to be defining attributes. Can someone better explain the importance of this category? I think it should be merged into :Category:Non-profit organizations. --Lquilter (talk) 08:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from talk page of [[:Category:Voluntary organisations]] that was merged to this one