Talk:Rhondda Cynon Taf

message: Previously there was info about this place at Rhondda. It was eventually meged into this article. The history of this info is now at Talk:Rhondda Cynon Taff/Early history of Rhondda.--Commander Keane 04:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merged info 

message: I have corrected an entry for Hawthorn High School. Whoeever put down 25% GCSE pass rate must not have looked far as the correct figure in Estyn is 49%.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.89.109 (talk) 13:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

message: :Image:Rhondda Cynon Taff arms.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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replies: text: Question regarding the use of these arms. These are ceremonial, correct? Yet the "dragon" logo seen so often on Rhondda Cynon Taf stationery isn't listed. Should we also include said dragon?--84.13.252.83 (talk) 20:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Rhondda Cynon Taff arms.png

message: I removed the 'league table' of school results because Estyn doesn't inspect schools annually, so the exam results cited won't necessarily be directly comparable. People may be aware that since 2001, the Assembly Government hasn't published individual school performance information. Information on individual schools is still available in prospectuses and governors’ annual reports, but adding them all together to produce a local league table may violate WP:SYNTH. Pondle (talk) 23:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  School league table 

message: First off, lets have a proper subdivision rather than discussing this under the Education heading. I have no agenda on the naming front (can't even think of one), but this article has been around for several years in its current form. As there has been a discussion regarding the naming convention, it's best that we do this right if we are to move it. Allow everyone to have their say, and therefore prevent it being moved in future, otherwise it will get punched around forever and a day. Everyone calls the All Blacks the All Blacks, even themselves; but not on Wikipedia, the consensus was the far snappier New Zealand national rugby union team (and rightly so). We just need to be correct... and then the person that moves it can repair the 360 disambiguation links after it. FruitMonkey (talk) 19:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as I have stated before, as a matter of habbit, I always type in "Rhondda Cynon Taf". It is the correct name. Everything to do with the Borough: the signage, council tax bills and letters and say 'Taf', and I can't see why this article doesn't reflect this. --Glenny127 (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Council's website at  is perfectly plain.  They use Rhondda Cynon Taf.  In those circumstances, we should treat this like Porthmadog, Conwy or Caernarfon as an area that has changed its name officially to the Welsh version, and go ahead with the move.  The 360 disambiguation links is not really a problem as a bot will sort out those. Skinsmoke (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've repeated numerous times, the name of the county borough is "Rhondda Cynon Taf" - that's quite clear to everyone. "Rhondda Cynon Taf" is used in ALL council literature, on ALL council media, and in ALL council minutes. It's used at schools, colleges, universities, by the Royal Mail, by HMO Stationery Office, by Ordnance Survey... I think it's about time Wikipedia stopped lagging behind and "got with the programme".--Monkeynuts2008 (talk) 07:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Furthermore, everyone needs to bear in mind that it's not so much an "English and Welsh" issue, Taf (like Taff) is pronounced Taph in English, while Taf is pronounced Tarv in Welsh. The ongoing argument and repeated changes to the Wiki are moot.--Monkeynuts2008 (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't know that your argument applies in this instance, Welshleprechaun, but your comments are very welcome.--Monkeynuts2008 (talk) 07:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support any renaming proposal to "Rhondda Cynon Taf" on the basis that when RCT send letters to me they call themselves "Rhondda Cynon Taf", and they should know. All the street furniture is noted as "Rhondda Cynon Taf". All the 'welcome to' street signs on entering the borough say "Rhondda Cynon Taf". And I say "Rhondda Cynon Taf" i.e. Tarv. I can't see any reason to maintain the status quo. Daicaregos (talk) 08:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed Daicaregos. How many of us confirming this does it need before changes are made?--Monkeynuts2008 (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree entirely with the proposed move/restoration for all the reasons cited above. This is the form used by the council itself: end of argument (but hold on, this is English Wikipedia, the only place apart from a handful of pieces of local government legislation where the counties of Wales are called "principal areas" - sorry to bring up that bugbear here but it's high time we changed that as well...). Enaidmawr (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

text:  Excellent, thank you Skinsmoke.--89.242.63.20 (talk) 15:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Amending Rhondda Cynon Taff to Rhondda Cynon Taf in individual town's infoboxes has caused the names of the Police and Fire service authorities to disappear e.g. Llantrisant. Anyone know how to remedy this please? Daicaregos (talk) 13:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, I was changing a load of infoboxes last night, and also wondering where the Fire and Police info had gone. Why cant we just add this info manually? -Glenny127 (talk) 13:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They appear automatically, based on which 'Unitary authority - Wales' has been input. I think that Rhondda Cynon Taf needs to be linked to South Wales Police and Welsh Fire Service. but I don't know how to do it. Hopefully, someone will. :) Daicaregos (talk) 14:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Hey guys. Nothing wrong with closing the debate and moving it yourselves with overwhelming consensus, but please try to remember to remove the entry from requested moves, so that regulars from WP:RM who close debates and perform moves don't spend time reading the debate only to find it had already been done. Just a heads up. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Move (Renaming debate for RCT)