Talk:Family Guy/Archive 4

message: Should the article mention the lawsuit Carol Burnett filed against Family Guy? see this report: , and this one:  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.17.129.70 (talk) 05:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can't add the info myself, since the page seems to be protected from anonymous editing... So someone else would have to add it. 70.17.148.120 17:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yep, and that's what the news articles say. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 19:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's over her cartoon maid character being parodied too closely to the real character. A parody is safe as long as it's obviously a parody. When Family Guy parodied it, it looked too much like the original character. I think it's worth adding, personally. SkittlzAnKomboz 02:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carol Burnett lawsuit 

message: This:
The second was in episode 04x24 - Peterotica, Peter has a flashback about the family being featured in animated shorts on The Tracey Ullman Show, appearing the way the Simpsons did when they debuted there.
is not true. According to Seth MacFarlane on the DVD commentary of this episode the joke is the fact that some cartoons (and indeed live action shows) have different character and different-appearing characters in their early incarnations. It just so happens that The Simpsons is one of the more famous examples of this. I can see why it might be construed as a dig at the simpsons, but it categorically isnt. 172.189.202.222 18:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons/Tracy Ullman Show reference 

message: A new noticeboard, Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard, has been created. - Peregrine Fisher 18:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This noticeboard has been deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard. Please disregard the above post. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard]] 

message: The article says that two episodes were rated TV-MA.  I don't recall that happening.  What episodes were they? WildFan48 19:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: TV-MA?

message: Stop adding Family Guy references to random articles when it's not relevant to the article's content, like, oh, say, the Brocolli article. Jtrainor 23:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Attention fans

message: Are these the current broadcasters only, because they do change regularly. 86.149.209.189 12:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Broadcasters

message: Can we have an article about the mobile game Air Griffin? Superjustinbros. 22:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Air Griffin

message: The imdb entry for Seth Macfarlane credits him with helping write the episodes. Does that count as a reputable enough source? User:Snyrt 23:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Citation Needed"

message: *Family Guy is going into syndication this fall. In case anybody asks "where'd you hear this", I learned it from a promo that aired just a few minutes ago on KWGN. Can we get this on the article? WizardDuck 19:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly is goin' to syndication, as it's coming to my local station KBCW starting Sept. 10.  Therefore, I will go add syndication, but problem is, I'll need a relevant source that claims FG will enter syndication nationally, not just in San Francisco and Denver as mentioned here. So I'll go research a bit more. Thanks for bringing this up! --Andrewlp1991 05:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going into syndication this fall 

message: As there is an Awards section, is it not a peacock phrase to say "Emmy winning" (sic; it needs a hyphen) in the first sentence? If not, then for consistency wouldn't we need to use that phrase in the first sentence of every series that's ever won an Emmy? Serious question, because the way it reads now seems excessively fannish. 
Also, as the Fox Broadcasting Company article states, "FOX" all caps is a vanity form used by the network itself, but "Fox" (first letter capped) is the preferred form. All caps seems like unnecessary hype. --69.22.254.111 22:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: There is a lot of clunky language and semi-literate phrasing in this article. "Low-intelligent"? Not a real word. This locked article really needs some good line editing. --69.22.254.111 23:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Good article" status

message: Plenty of people, myself included, are curious about the music on Family Guy--things like the Donny Most rising from the mist scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrAMunOOKQ), the Sneakers O'Toole scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiHoKhyuDU), all the barbershop-quartet singing, et cetera. Who composes that music, how is it recorded (is it MIDI, or are real instruments used?) who are the singers, etc.
This is relevant, interesting stuff for an article about the show IMHO.
Or perhaps someone can start an article, "List of songs on Family Guy", which would include all the original music and all the parodies, and have a chart giving the names of the composer(s), performer(s), which song it's a parody of (if applicable), etc.
Any thoughts?
Thanks! Piercetheorganist 08:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be nice, but didn't some article with songs of Family Guy got removed some months ago? TheBlazikenMaster 00:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: The term non sequitur is frequently added to (or linked from) this article to describe the cutaway gags. This is incorrect. Non sequiturs are illogical responses to logical premises.
;Example
Ralph Wiggum and Zippy the Pinhead are characters well known for using non sequiturs.
Peter Griffin occasionally speaks in non sequiturs, and the more out-of-nowhere Giant Chicken appearances may be loosely considered non sequiturs as far as story telling is concerned.
However, cutaway gags may have no premise, or a gratuitous premise ("You think that's bad ...") that is followed logically, so they are not the same as non sequiturs.
I doubt this is a common misconception, so I'm guessing either:
*On some commentary track or in an interview the producers are saying non sequitur for this, or 
*it's comedy writer jargon.
Can someone source this (with a quote) so we can add this to the article correctly, instead of repeatedly misnaming the cutaway gags? If you don't know how to add it to the article, just append the quote here, and indicate the source and (if video sourced) the timing (in minutes & seconds) where this is said. / edgarde 15:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non sequiturs, non 

message: If you click on this YouTube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbCm7JuRbg&NR=1#, at 53 seconds into the clip Brian will start his Toyota Prius, yet the engine starts, and it features the traditional car-starting sound effect (with a small electric engine starter). That is not how it works.
*So...how is an error in a YouTube video relevant to a Wikipedia article about a television series? If there is a section or article of Family Guy goofs, post it there. Or, if there is a goofs section of the article relating to the particular episode in question, post it there. But how is that at all relevant here?
:Much as I dislike Goofs sections — and what a show to get retentive about — they're being added to most episode pages. The Prius engine noise would go on the page for the appropriate episode. / edgarde 20:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brian's Prius

message: Let me me see if I've got this right. It always premieres on a Sunday, on FOX at 9pm and Adult Swim at 11:30pm. Is that right? (I can only make the 11:30 tonite. Will someone please tell me which channel to be on? Thanks!) StrongBad27 20:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airtimes 

message: Common you guys I need you. The wikiproject needs more members currently there are only six, yet there are plenny more wikipedians that like Family Guy. Most discussions regarding Family Guy article is being disscussed on this page, it should be discuss on the wikiproject. C'mon you guys I need you. TheBlazikenMaster 22:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The WikiProject 

message: HEY! ARE YOU A FAN OF Family Guy! DO YOU WANNA GET ALL THERE DVDs! DO YOU WANNA SLEEP WITH MEG! IF YOUR ANSWERES ARE YES YES YES, than why, she's ugly. IF YOUR ANSWERES ARE YES YES NO, THAN JOIN THE FAMILY GUY HEPERS! JOIN NOW!
JOIN NOW! JOIN NOW!--BrianGriffin-FG 18:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of founding a new organization, would you consider contributing to Wikipedia:WikiProject Family Guy, which already has at least 5 active members? No point in duplicating efforts. / edgarde 00:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Helpers

message: Don't you think we should put something on how ever since Family Guy came back from cancellation the humor on the show has become forced and stale.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.187.221 (talk • contribs) 01:43 9 July 2007 (UTC)
:personal opinions arent included in wikipedia, so your answer would be noGrande13
Not to mention the fact you didnt sign youre post newb.BlueShrek 02:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can pretty much decide to ignore anything said by an unsigned comment. The header of this section instantly told me: Someone's insignificant opinion. 阿修羅96 21:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family Guy's Declining Quality 

message: I removed "Emmy award winning" from the opening sentence. The first sentence should simply state who or what the subject of the article is. Winning awards is something the show has done, but it's not what it is. Yes, it's true the show's won awards, but it's trying to cast it in a "positive light" and "award winning" in the opening sentence is a piece of verbal fluff that you expect from a press release, magazine article, or fansite. The awards can of course be put later in the lead, but not the opening sentence. If you look at Wikipedia_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#POV in first sentence?, consensus shows that it's inheritely POV to put awards in opening sentences (unless it's groundbreaking). Spellcast 19:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think calling the show "Emmy award winning" is hype and borders on misleading — if I'm reading this correctly, the only Emmys won were for voice Acting (MacFarlane) and for Music & Lyrics (probably Murphy). / edgarde 21:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening sentence

message: There's been a lot of precedent for these lists to be deleted. Most recently, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International broadcasters for 24 (TV series) decided to delete solely on grounds of Wikipedia is not a directory (AKA Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide). This is significant because this suggests the lists themselves are unencyclopedic, whether or not they are subject to becoming outdated (per WP:DATED, mentioned in the nomination but not in the deletion decision).
(Whoever disagrees with this decision can take it up on Wikipedia:Deletion review, but a really solid argument should be presented for any attempt to overturn precedent.)
The WikiProject Countering systemic bias concern for writing articles from an "international perspective" was brought up in defense of broadcasters lists. This got little traction.
Delete on sight, preserve only core information, like network the show was made for, or on which an episode was first broadcast. Otherwise, these lists don't belong on Wikipedia. / edg ☺ ★ 08:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relevant AfD decision on broadcasters lists

message: I think Wiki should add a section to the Family Guy page about the ripoffs Family Guy does from the Simpsons.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jediyoda426 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, ripoff is a strong word and not true at all. Just because it has many simulations doesn't make it a ripoff, if it was a ripoff, things would be a lot more a like. I watched all the way from season 1-9 of the Simpsons, and I've watched 1-4 season of Family Guy so I know it's not a ripoff, seriously, there are many differences. If you wanna make a section, have it named simulations, not ripoff, I'm sick and tired of people assuming this show is a ripoff. (yes, I'm still on vocation, but I come here once a day to see what's going on.) TheBlazikenMaster 15:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Wasn't going to reply to this cos it's such old news. However, if anyone can find some sources for this criticism, it might be worth adding to Criticism of Family Guy. Please do not add original research — things you observed watching Family Guy, and decided were "ripoffs" of The Simpsons, are not acceptable. / edgarde 17:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons/Family Guy Similarities Page 

message: I have removed this article from WP:GA because it no longer meets the criteria.
*Article needs additional citation.
*References need to be correctly and consistently formatted.
*Copyrighted image lacks fair use rationale.
Once issues are addressed and the article is brought up to the current GA standards, it may be renominated at WP:GAC. If you don't agree with this decision, you may list the article at WP:GA/R. Regards, Lara♥Love 18:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Delisted Good article

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replies: text: I've added a fair use rationale. It should (hopefully) be good now. Lara♥Love 04:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mad 0905.jpg

message: On the main Family Guy page, it says that the show ran from Jan. 31, 1999 - Feb. 14, 2002 and May 1, 2005 - present.  Wasn't Family Guy canceled for a year after the first two seasons?  Shouldn't it say Jan. 31, 1999 - Aug. 1, 2000, July 11, 2001 - Feb. 14, 2002, and May 1, 2005 - present? -(Vert Bandit 01:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should original run be changed? 

message: I've started a discussion thread on WP:FG about the possibility of starting a Family Guy reference desk. Anyone who feels we should be answering general Questions about Family Guy is encouraged to participate in this discussion (and to join WikiProject Family Guy). There are ways we can do this. / edg ☺ ★ 22:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a great idea. My only concern is: who would man such a desk? Even if I was a total FG expert (some of you guys here know this show as deeply as I know Star Trek), I don't know if I could devote a serious block of time each week to man the desk. ShutterBugTrekker 23:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The (initial, preliminary) details of the proposal are on the WikiProject Talk page. The answer to your question is whoever volunteers. Strict shift schedules or 24-hour coverage wouldn't be a requirement. So far there hasn't been much interest. / edg ☺ ★ 01:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Guy reference desk proposal

message: Could someone change the listing for the ratings in Canada? Seasons 1-3 were rated PG on Global in Canada when they originally aired. Since the beginning of season 4, every episode is rated 14+. Upperwhen455 16:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings in Canada 

message: Family guy was not banned in poland. I am from Poland and know for a fact that it is available there. Year 2144 17:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banned in Poland? 

message:  please unprotect this  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Devil Captain (talk • contribs) 17:13, August 30, 2007 (UTC) 
:I suggest that you go to WP:RM, but I disagree though. Family Guy is a famous culture show, so many vandals come here with some bullshit about the show. TheBlazikenMaster 17:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unprotection

message: "Peter Griffin cameo'd in a Halloween special of the Simpsons, in which Homer was cloned." For the record, this special was Treehouse of Horror XIII. 81.159.248.243 17:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, check Peter's article, that should give a little more info about the appearance. TheBlazikenMaster 01:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added a ToHXIII citation to this article. Thanks. / edg ☺ ★ 03:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's Simpson Cameo 

message: Hi. There's now a Yiddish version of the FAMILY GUY article. Here: http://yi.wikipedia.org/wiki/משפחה_מענטש . Can someone please add Yiddish to the list? Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.180.25.200 (talk) 01:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yiddish article 

message: The normal title sequence in Family Guy parodies, in part, All in the Family with its nostalgic longing for values of days past.Because so many people thought Stewie sang "F-in' cry!" instead of "Laugh and cry", Seth MacFarlane resang that line to make "laugh and cry" more clear.That's kind of ironic, given that Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor redid the opening theme to "All in the Family" to make the line "Gee our old LaSalle ran great" more clear.
:Never cared for MacFarlane's explanation. I'm confident Stewie sang effin' cry, and the "more clear" explanation is to avoid controversy. This is a case where verifiability is more important that truth (whatever that is), but to anyone familiar with the vernacular use of effin' it's quite obvious what Stewie is says. / edg ☺ ★ 04:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-sung opening 

message: Referring to the ringtones: Doesn't Quagmire say "aaaaallright..." rather than "awwwwright..." ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BloodyFox (talk • contribs) 21:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Beats me. Is there an official spelling for this somewhere? The number of repeat letters seems also to be guesswork. / edg ☺ ★ 22:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That might do it, presuming captions for Family Guy follow the script. I've seen these deviate on other programs. An actual script would be "canonical". / edg ☺ ★ 02:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great idea, but sometimes it might not work. Sometimes the ones making the subtitles are not the ones writing the scripts. TheBlazikenMaster 19:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  words and phrases