Talk:Kansas–Kansas State football rivalry

message: Back when Wichita State University had a football team, they were included in the "Governor's Cup" contest--at least, as I recall.  Can anyone confirm?--Paul McDonald 12:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wichita State University 

message: There's clearly a disagreement on how the result of the forfeited 1980 game should be handled in the article.  There are essentially three options:  1) Count it as a win for KU since they won on the field, which would make the series 19-18-1 in favor of KSU,  2) Count it as a win for KSU since KU had to forfeit the game, which would make the series 20-17-1 in favor of KSU, or 3) Don't count it at all since it's in dispute and since both sides claim it as a victory, which would make the series 19-17-1 in favor of KSU.  Personally, I could live with either option 2 or option 3 as long as there is explicit mention that the two schools each count the 1980 game as a win.  I don't think option 1 is approproiate given the forfeit, and I say that as a graduate of KU.  Maybe list it at a KSU win with an asterisk that then refers to the note about the result being in dispute.  Any other thoughts? Jakzhumans 21:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have laid out the options nicely.  Unfortunately, the NCAA itself is not consistent in recordkeeping for forfeits and vacated games in the division formerly known as Division I-A.  (I think the NCAA does this because it is petulant about the fact they don't control the bowls, as also demonstrated by changing the name to the awkward Division I-Football Bowl Subdivision.)  Contrariwise, in basketball the NCAA recordbook is clear that schools' records are adjusted for forfeits and vacated games.  I think that indicates that this is the proper thing also to do in the football context; thus the record is 20-17-1 in favor of KSU.  Further, Chris Stassen, who is probably the most well-known and well-respected amateur college football historian, takes this approach, explaining his reasons on his website. Finally, I think your option 3 is proper for a school that vacates a win (like OU in 2005), but option 2 is proper for a school that forfeits a win (like KU in 1980).  (There should be a difference since they are two distinct penalites.)  I am definitely OK with an adding an asterisk that refers to the note, but I believe the record should be stated as 20-17-1 (until Saturday) in favor of KSU. - Kgwo1972 22:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is absolutely fine with me.  Now if we can just get the lurkers to stop altering it every time it doesn't favor their personal favorite school. Jakzhumans 02:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Forfeit 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Arkansas–LSU football rivalry which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 17:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: The importance of this article RELATIVE to all over Kansas related articles doesn't merit a High-importance value.  See http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Kansas&importance=High-Class for other High-importance articles.  It's not what you think the value or quality of your favorite article deserves by itself, but instead its value compared to almost 8000 other Kansas articles.  • Sbmeirow • Talk • 19:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kansas Project importance of this article 

message: I changed the Big 12 logo from here to here. The logo is the new version they released in July 2014, and the one I used is the "shortened" version of the File:Big 12 Conference logo.png. Just thought I'd let others know. Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 19:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem! Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 20:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo, 2 October 2014 

message: It seems the forfeit has been an issue the entire time this article has been around. 
I added a note for the forfeit in the game table, but someone reverted the score back. 
This is fine, but the issue is this displays that the series is 65-50-5 and the series is currently 64-51-5. I'd love suggestions on how to properly display the results. BlueEyedBuzzard (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Forfeit(Again)