Talk:Cardiff Bay

message: I'm reverting the sports village section - we need to keep it balanced. Someone (probably a devil's fan) keeps changing it to a 'moan' about lack of progress. It needs to be balanced, and that means pointing it reasons for and against whats occured three, pointing out the official position and possible doubts. Its not the place for unsubstantiated opinions. 
I'm changing the section on the sports village - is is very POV. This is not the place for a moan - stick to facts only. 
This is an article about the physical environment of Cardiff Bay, its successes and failures. It should reflect the 'common view' and be neither a hyped up marketing brochure, nor an overly negative and political attack on the city and its authorities. I've tidied up some things which were overly 'biased' towards negativity and comments regarding such things as the Leckwith stadium (this is not the place for a moan). Always qualify anything you say which is an opinion as "some feel" or "it is possible" or "arguably, etc". Don't use such terms as "point out" or others that convey an authority that you don't have. Only facts should be done in such a manner. - unsigned comment from various IP editors
:I don't know the area except through the media, so I'm not the person to fix it: but I agree with the above. I've added an unreferenced tag to the Cardiff Bay Today and Looking Ahead section, as it's a completely unsourced essay introduced in a single anonymous edit . . Arguably, Cardiff Bay has become ... (who argues that?) and so on. I think it should be removed and that section rewritten from scratch from proper sources. Tearlach 20:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm ... I know it's a PITA with some topics, but it still needs sourcing. It can be OK to leave generally-agreed and self-evident stuff in, and let others find sources. But this is a big chunk of text making a lot of non-obvious assertions that you need to show aren't just some agenda-driven personal take on the subject. To be honest, I think it looks a pretty fair assessment. But it needs to be demonstrably so. Changing POV statements to "some people argue", "arguably", "potentially" doesn't make them NPOV; it just takes them into the scope of WP:Weasel. 86.141.147.92 02:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentary

message: Moved from article as unsourced. Tearlach 02:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Essay for sourcing

message: Considering the geographical association, why isn't this page merged with Tiger Bay? It's a defining part of its history.
:An alternative is to make a clear link back to Tiger Bay and develop the article as the 'history' section  - and do the same with CBDC as the 'development' section, leaving space for a good overview of the bay as it is today? Tony (talk) 05:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  merger with Tiger Bay? 

message: I have had a look on the website of the Leading Hotels of the World, but St David's is not listed there. In fact, there is no Welsh hotel at all, so this cannot be right! Unless someone else finds a prove for that, I would suggest to have this comment removed. Andiloew (talk) 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  St David's Hotel 

message: The coordiantes are wrong. I folled the link to google and ended up in the Mouth of the Severn, close to Burnham-on-sea! Andiloew (talk) 17:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: Didn't anyone protest turning a tidal bay into a 'redevelopment?'  Weren't there any creatures that depended on the tides going out for their survival? Wasn't any ecosystem consigned to the bottom of the bay here? If not, fine....
Createangelos (talk) 02:31, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There was sustained protest (and a couple of demonstrations) for the reasons you suggest, as well as the risk of rising water levels to local communities. The existing residents of Butetown also felt they were being by-passed, rather than benefitting from the development. I agree, the article is somewhat pro-CBDC, but the news sources about the protests are probably offline somewhere. Sionk (talk) 13:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wasn't there any protest? 

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