Talk:2024

message: See WT:YEARS#Eclipses for a matter relevant to this page.  Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see any section for eclipses on the page you linked. The eclipse on April 8 is gonna be lit AF and should be added. 184.147.47.69 (talk) 01:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Eclipses aren't important enough for main year articles. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: ddddd 79.106.67.217 (talk) 00:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eclipses 

message: I think NASA is launching Artemis 2 in May 2024, is that event significant enough to be put on this page? InjectableBacon (talk) 18:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's been pushed back to November. But should definitely be included if/when the mission happens. It'll be the closest humans have come to the Moon since the early 1970s. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also been pushed back to 2025, so maybe on that page? (also artemis iii should go on the 2026 page) 2600:8802:3A0B:3000:2CCD:AD72:18E2:C2B9 (talk) 23:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artemis 2 

message: The tournament will start on January 19, 2024. Shouldn't we add this? Aminabzz (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is a regional sporting event. It is the same reason we don't add the superbowl or the NBA finals. PaulRKil (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2023 AFC Asian Cup]] 

message: Personally I oppose  this as an entry, as there is no article for this law, it appears to be a purely domestic event, and its topic (education) usually doesn't merit entries on articles about years--there's no article for [years] in education.
This was the entry:
*China Patriotic Education Law will take effect
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't. It appears to not even have an article so why would it ever be included. I'm starting to think we need to semi-protect the article. It seems every time we approach the new year that IP editors show up and put poorly sourced or outright bizarre entries. PaulRKil (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Domestic law changes are commonplace & they're rarely important enough for main year articles. Junior, local, domestic & regional competitions are also often wrongly added. A host leaving a game show was added, before being removed. Things such as those, which are nowhere near important enough, are often added to main year articles. X2023X (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does China's Patriotic Education Law merit an entry? 

message: As of writing it is 8:35am UTC+2. I believe the first places to enter 2024 will cross over in 4 hours and 25 minutes from now. Will the 'January 1st' section become present/past tense when this happens? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter particularly much, a 24 hour window is quite small and any timezone error is insignificant. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  When does the article become present tense? 

message: this
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024
has a nice feature (a list of what year it is in different calendars) that is absent from the present article
can we get some sort of cross reference ?
or put in the intro this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars  which isn't quite as good
thanks !!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinnamon colbert (talk • contribs) 15:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Year in various calendars" template was removed from Template:C21 year in topic by Johnson524 at 17:11, 14 November 2023. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @GeoffreyT2000: Multiple editors made requests on the C21 year in topic talk page asking to shorten the template in some considerable way: reasons being so that mobile editors don’t have to scroll so much to get to the actual content of ‘year’ articles, and since the template was so long it would often go deep into the body of articles. It was a WP:BOLD edit request for sure, so multiple inquiries were made on multiple WikiProject talk pages over the span multiple months to ask for ideas on how to make this edit happen without losing important content. In the end, there were net zero responses and nobody opposed, so I went ahead with deleting everything but the template’s wikilinks since discussions had gone nowhere. This is the first opposition I’ve heard on this to date, so if you can think of a way to add back the list of year formats in a way they do not interfere with the reasons I said above on why they were originally removed, then go ahead, but discussions about shortening this template had been ongoing for months at this point, and I felt obligated to conclude them somehow. Any feedback is appreciated. Johnson524 23:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Centralized discussion for this topic at Template talk:C21 year in topic#Year in various calendars disappeared 2001 onwards Johnson524 01:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calendars 

message: Should we remove the Sea of Japan earthquake entry? I think we should. It only killed 20 people. DementiaGaming (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Include. 7.6 magnitude isn't a minor quake, and the casualty figure is now almost 50. There is widespread damage to properties. This was Japan's largest earthquake since 2015. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Borderline exlcude while not minor, context is important. It hit a country that is well prepared to handle earthquakes of that magnitude and the result is much less damage and loss of life compared to the earthquakes of similar magnitude we saw hit in Haiti and Turkey. Similarly, we don't include every Category 4-5 hurricane that hits the United States and causes a lot of damage and inflicts deaths in the dozens because the US is largely prepared to handle such storms. By extension, we should also exclude the plane crash that occurred. PaulRKil (talk) 13:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I have changed my mind. The death toll has risen to 57 people, and although we're not getting an exact number on how expensive it is, it's now probably very, very, costly. Yeah, I think we should include it. DementiaGaming (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well to include, but we should still Exclude the related plane crash in my point of view. PaulRKil (talk) 17:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The death toll is now 73. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Include This is notable event with significant coverage. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 22:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2024 Sea of Japan earthquake]] 

message: Why is the euro final down for 14 July, but the Asian and Africa equivalents not mentioned. 80.192.242.40 (talk) 16:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: None of them should be as they are not global events like the olympics or the world cup so it will be removed along with the Asian and African events. PaulRKil (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Regional competitions shouldn't be on main year articles. They should be on sub-articles such as 2024 in sports. X2023X (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: They should be mentioned in my humble opinion, pending due weight compliance.  – why so? If they receive sufficient coverage to fulfill DUE (which is our inclusion criteria, as opposed to the BS that was international notability), they should be mentioned here. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  European centric 

message: People are slobbering over this page to the point where people are adding random domestic events that nobody cares about. I propose we protect this page for now until people realize that these events aren't notable enough. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it needs to be pending changes protected or semi-protected. A host leaving a game show & YouTuber no longer making videos were added to this article, before being rightly removed. X2023X (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I've requested to have the page bumped from semi-protected to extended protected. PaulRKil (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if that isn't granted, this page needs semi-protection for this year to prevent vandalism and inexperienced editors from including irrelevant entires. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The page is semi-protected until Friday so if anything happens that warrants it to be protected again, then users can re-submit a request but they won't budge on a higher degree of protection. PaulRKil (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Peak editing for year articles is typically late Dec & early Jan, so it'll probably reduce significantly during the next week or so. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose extended-confirmed protection or anything higher. This would unfairly deter new editors and serves the message to others that we assume bad faith. Instead of preventing new editors (or "fans") from contributing as suggested by a previously T-Banned editor on the 2022 talk page, we should welcome then into the discussion and offer them a fair chance to defend their inclusion. For this rationale, I would suggest pending changes protection over semi. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection 

message: So far the bombings in Iran killed at least 103 people. Grainmaster132 (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be added but we should wait for more information on what exactly occurred. Entries like this tend to cause charged responses from various sides given the broader context of what is currently going on in the region so it is always best to wait in the initial stages. PaulRKil (talk) 15:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I support inclusion because of the high death toll (103 so far), the fact it took place on the anniversary of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, and received international coverage and reactions. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Include, due to high death toll. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add the [[Kerman bombings]] to events? 

message: Should we include the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision and the Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung to this page? There has been a lot of back and forth about their inclusion.  
Outcome will, of course, be honored. PaulRKil (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope this doesn't come off as canvassing but it feels appropriate to notify the people involved in the edit warring so they may be able to provide their perspective @Heathy94, @DL6443, @DementiaGaming, @X2023X, @sinisreality2023, @MrJaydenfire, @Wikieditor019, @Jake11223344, @Vinicius mad, @Tri Ardiansyah,  @Bobertrobert0709, @Indiana6724, @WolfishJT, @ PaulRKil (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: In the case of the assassination attempt, Lee Jae-myung was not a current or former head of state/government and did not succumb to his injuries. For context, the inclusion of the assassination of Shinzo Abe in 2022 was debated because it happened after his premiership as some editors felt only assassinations of incumbents should be included, therefore trying to add an attempt on a non-national non-incumbent political figure wouldn't warrant inclusion in a main year article. PaulRKil (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

text: As a side note, I wasn't aware of the previous reverts when I added the Haneda Airport entry, and hastily self-reverted --DL6443 (Talk/Contribs) 21:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2024 Haneda Airport runway collision]] and [[Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung]] 

message: The assassination of Saleh al-Arouri has been added and removed multiple times. X2023X (talk) 05:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude: It appears he isn't a major leader of Hamas and is instead a deputy leader. In my perspective, adding him would be equivalent to adding events for the numerous Russian generals or regional governors that have been killed in the invasion of Ukraine. I also don't think it is a markedly major escalation of the conflict that would warrant inclusion. PaulRKil (talk) 14:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I think this should be an include considering how much coverage was given on this figure and assassination. We should follow DUE based on coverage, which for the most part (responding in part to Paul) will exclude most random Russian officials during the Ukraine invasion. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri]] 

message: This is literally some of the biggest news of the whole decade so far, hundreds of public figures are being exposed as paedophiles, and no one is talking about it on this page? Former Presidents are being exposed here! I mean, its just my opinion, yous can tell me what you think. 123WasTaken (talk) 11:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: None of what you said is true. "Hundreds of public figures" is less than a dozen with pretty much all of them not being directly implicated in any wrongdoing. Please read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey Epstein's associates list for more detail. PaulRKil (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Also, the flight logs were released in 2021 (they've just been circulating again on social media recently). The new info now is just names which were previously redacted in the court proceedings. Not all of them have been accused of any crimes (some are witnesses and victims). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: The article about it was deleted. The info is vague & most of what's being said is speculation. It's highly-publicised, but not important. X2023X (talk) 18:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epstein Island Flight Logs 

message: I added the following entry: 
* January 15
** North Korea–South Korea relations: North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un says Korean reunification is "no longer possible" and asks the Supreme People's Assembly to amend the constitution to formally recognize South Korea as a separate country.
I believe it merits entry because the Korean War has never had a formal peace treaty, and both countries--North Korea and South Korea--have never recognized each other, claiming the entire territory of the Korean Peninsula. This change from Kim Jong Un (totalitarian dictator of North Korea) appears to merit due weight, at least in my opinion. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude. No concrete actions have been taken by either government thus far, apart from an announcement made by the North Korean Government. Considering that the North Korean Government frequently makes such announcements without subsequent action, including this particular announcement while excluding other similar ones would be considered giving undue weight WP:UNDUE. If substantial action is taken, such as the formal amendment of the constitution, then the inclusion of that specific action can be considered. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Wait until the constitution is amended and/or the North Koreans submit something akin to a formal recognition to the United Nations. PaulRKil (talk) 14:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. Come on, this is the first major event in the Korean conflict since 2018. DementiaGaming (talk) 23:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does North Korean recognition of South Korea merit inclusion? 

message: Hey, so the Super Bowl is coming up in the US. You think we should add that to predicted and scheduled events? ItsShrimple (talk) 22:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose It goes in 2024 in sports, not this page. The Super Bowl is an American domestic sporting event that does not have sufficient due weight to belong on this page. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense, just wondering why it’s on the 2025 page under predicted events. ItsShrimple (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose I don't believe it's included in the 1967 to 2023 pages. Best placed in the 2024 in sports page. GoodDay (talk) 04:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose: Non global recurring annual event, we should only include non-annual global level events such as the World Cup and the Olympics. The sources of an event need to demonstrate its significance in the context of a year. Most sources for the Super Bowl amount to “It’s occurring on x date at x arena.” That happens every year, what makes this year extraordinary? PaulRKil (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Strong exclude. Domestic sporting event. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Bowl 

message: You think we should add the discovery of the Upano Valley sites? Pretty large discovery in my opinion. ItsShrimple (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Borderline exclude as this better belongs in 2024 in archaeology, as this was an archaeological finding, not a geopolitical event or major scientific breakthrough. I added the discovery to that page. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 00:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: An event does not have to be a  to be included on this page. Archaeological findings may be included if it meets the due weight criteria. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Given their age, this discovery does seem notable. I'm open to inclusion, provided the entry is written to emphasise they are the oldest. Wjfox2005 (talk) 12:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upano Valley Sites 

message: *Iran carries out missile strikes in Iraq and Syria, declaring them as retaliation for the Kerman bombings on 3 January
* January 16 – Iran carries out missile strikes in Pakistan, declaring that it was targeting the Sunni Baloch separatist group Jaish ul-Adl, which had claimed responsibility for the 2019 Khash–Zahedan suicide bombing
* January 17 – Iranian-backed Houthi movement attacked the Marshall Islands-flagged, United States-owned and operated bulk carrier Genco Picardy in the Gulf of Aden.
* January 18 – Pakistan carries out retaliatory missile strikes in Iran as a response to the earlier Iranian missile strikes inside Pakistani territory.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait: I think these will ultimately either be excluded or merged into one or two entries given the fact they're so closely related. PaulRKil (talk) 13:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should these entries be included for space reasons--I added the main article hyperlinks in the lead ([[2024 Iran-Pakistan skirmishes]] and [[Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war]]). 

message: I'm unsure, but if there is a consensus to include it the entry should be rewritten, particularly to remove grammatical errors. This may have merit as it had an effect on three countries, but pages about years don't include every international natural disaster.
This was the entry, which has grammatical errors: 
* January 22 - A earthquake shakes shared borders between China, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, leaving 15 deads.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude for now. Minimal casualties, despite the high quake magnitude. Very little media coverage. Wjfox2005 (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the 2024 Uqturpan earthquake merit inclusion? 

message: Shouldn't there be a section for predicted events in popular culture? 46.142.141.1 (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is, pop culture should be on the article as it had an impact on each year, since 20th century. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 22:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Strongly Include for me, pop culture has its defining moments on each year and of course decade. Technology could be the further influence as it had an effect on media and entertainment. Take for example, movies, video games, music, literature, sports, and TV shows and specials. These like slang and technical terms are also significant on shaping world cultures and traditions, as well as language history and development. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 18:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose pending Due Weight. Rarely is stuff like this widely mentioned, and even then not by a majority of reliable sources. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 03:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Include Because, why not? Gold Like Shore8 (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Strongly Include Normally, I would say that, but I don’t have anything wrong with pop culture and media events, as you can see, they are completely covered by journalism and academic sources. These events can stay as long as it wants as long it follows Wikipedia core principles and policies. -“Userbase3913” (talk) 03:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose because popular culture in 2024 already has specific pages for it, and usually doesn't have sufficient due weight to be on this page. See 2024 by topic (i.e. arts, music, sports, etc.) for such events.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In popular culture" 

message: I personally oppose  inclusion because there's no article on this event, the death toll is low, and the last sentence indicates a lack of media coverage and investigation about the event.
* January 20 – An airstrike kills five elite Iranian Revolutionary Guards in a building in Damascus. Iran blames Israel.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude due to lack of notability. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this entry merit inclusion--I can't find an article on it. 

message: Should we add the 2024 Bashkortostan protests? Seems significant enough to warrant inclusion. ItsShrimple (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude. Lack of international notability. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. It was on Portal:Current events, so I think that makes it eligible for being on here. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that this may not be a reliable indicator of the notability of an event. After briefly editing on the portal today for the first time, it appears that the events featured are selected by a very limited number of editors. Content disputes are often resolved through edit warring rather than engaging in meaningful discussions. 33ABGirl (talk) 11:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  2024 Bashkortostan protests 

message: He is the first person to be executed by nitrogen gas in history, I feel like that should be noted in here 2603:8080:7CF0:8820:C888:AB62:5E18:2C37 (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Borderline oppose, because I believe this can better go in 2024 in politics, which I added the event to. Kenneth Eugene Smith was an American convicted murderer, and his execution involved legal challenges and reactions, including different views and laws (i.e. other countries' laws) regarding capital punishment. The page about 2024 has limited space, and usually doesn't include events surrounding criminal law.  If other editors believe the entry should be included, and there is a consensus, the event can be added to the main page.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Neutral, and leaning towards exclusion. The method of execution is somewhat notable, being the world's first. However, I'm not sure if the event itself merits inclusion on the 2024 page. He was just one man, and largely unknown. Wjfox2005 (talk) 10:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Leaning include, at least for now, as it's a notable execution. World's first as far as I know. Waiting to see what enduring notability this one has. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Exclude this is more fitting in 2024 in the United States PaulRKil (talk) 20:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kenneth Eugene smith execution  

message: I left the entry on the page for now, but I personally oppose inclusion because I believe the entry lacks due weight as a minor event of a much larger, ongoing armed conflict--the Israel-Hamas War. This page usually doesn't include events about major ongoing armed conflicts, both because information can rapidly change and because there are timelines for such events--Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war.
This is the entry:
* February 1
** Israel–Hamas war: United States imposes sanctions on Israeli settlers over the violence in West Bank.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose, pending due weight. My concerns are linked to WP:TOOSOON InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose, I agree that it is too minor for this article and comparatively isn't even a major event in the context of the war. Yeoutie (talk) 16:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose. For the reasons others have already given here. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this entry on the Israel-Hamas war merit inclusion? 

message: * February 1 – Russian invasion of Ukraine: All 27 EU member states agree on a €50bn ($55bn) aid package to support Ukraine.
* February 2 – The US launches airstrikes on 85 targets in Iraq and Syria in response to a deadly drone attack on a US military base.
* February 3 – Red Sea crisis: The US and UK launch joint strikes on 36 Houthi targets across 13 locations in Yemen. 
33ABGirl (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose all as less significant and incremental updates of conflicts that are more appropriate for their respective timelines. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I also oppose for the same reasons as 33ABGirl. These events are part of major ongoing armed conflicts that are mentioned in the lead, and have their own timelines. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 19:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. A $55 billion aid package (equivalent to the GDP of a small country!) is hardly "incremental". This will shape the course of the conflict for many months to come. And you clearly aren't familiar with European  politics – this was a really pivotal agreement, which followed immense pressure on the Hungarian government. As for the other two, how are airstrikes on 85 (eighty-five!) targets "insignificant"? And another 36 after that? What exactly would be significant in your eyes? Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. All of these are relevant.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 16:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose Ukraine and Red Sea entries, but include US airstrikes on February 2. I agree with above that the first two are just small updates in major wars that we have seen before, but the airstrikes present the first major escalation and response to the ongoing attacks on US bases in the region which is not represented on this page as of yet. Yeoutie (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should these entries be included? 

message: Lynja from CookingWithLynja died on January 1st, 2024. Please add this. Junmintt (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: It doesn't go on this page--it goes in Deaths in 2024--this page just has the hyperlink to that page. In fact, it's already on there for January 1, 2024--Deaths in 2024#1 2 JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2024 

message: Excuse me, but I put in several events here, and I just checked back and they're gone. 8UB3RG1N3 (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears user@JohnAdams1800 removed your entries for being either too specific for this page or lacking a reliable source. Looking at your additions, I would suggest that they are better suited in pages such as 2024 in the United States or 2024 in Aviation as this page is for events with sufficient international notability and due weight. If you think that an event should be included here but was deleted, you can make a new talk page section and invite other users for their opinions. Yeoutie (talk) 21:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: I keep removing it and someone keeps adding the entry back. 
I oppose inclusion because the casualty toll is low, it is a domestic transportation disaster in the United States, and has not caused major disruption to the U.S. or global economy compared to say the 2021 Suez Canal obstruction.
The entry is:
* March 26 – A container ship collides with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, United States, causing a total collapse of the bridge and the deaths of six people.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Include. I have never seen so much media coverage on a single event since the terrorists attacked Israel. 30,000 people crossed that bridge every day before collapse. DementiaGaming (talk) 00:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. For the reasons already stated by Yeoutie and DementiaGaming. Wjfox2005 (talk) 18:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Include. Major impact on the world economy. With all due respect, all the "domestic" arguments have been refuted and RFC'd out of oblivion – they're utterly worthless and irrelevant now. I would encourage all the "domestic" arguers to find a better reason to exclude entries. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What has been the "impact on the world economy"? I seriously ask why the major newspapers have not reported an "impact on the world economy" such as the pandemic, the invasion of Ukraine or the conflict in the Red Sea (and not the collapse of a bridge).  _-_Alsor (talk) 20:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse be included? I oppose inclusion. 

message: Should we include the Mexican embassy raid from Ecuador? 2603:8080:7CF0:280:7D6F:CCDA:7946:2DD9 (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Include, given widespread coverage of international law and reactions from countries & international organizations. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:37, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexico Embassy raid  

message: I was wondering if it is notable enough to be included here?
Macron sets Ukraine as top priority as China’s Xi Jinping pays a state visit to France – AP News
China's Xi Arrives in France for State Visit – Voice of America AsianStuff03 (talk) 06:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose, though it can go in 2024 in China and 2024 in France. State visits between heads of state are common and lack due weight for this page, unless they are particularly significant--i.e. two countries establish diplomatic relations and this is the first state visit after that. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose as it isn't too unusual. While they are geopolitical rivals, they do have open relations with each other. If they had zero diplomatic relations such as the case with North Korea and a lot of western states, it would be notable. PaulRKil (talk) 12:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

text: oppose – state visits aren't too big and common place. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  President Xi Jinping's State Visit to France 

message: ** The Chinese President Xi Jinping begins his European tour, starting in France, Serbia and ending in Hungary.
* May 6
**King Charles III, celebrates the first anniversary of his coronation, marked to his cancer diagnosis.
**The King Frederik X and his wife, the Queen, makes the first state visit to Sweden, as new monarchs, since the abdication of his mother, in January 14, 2024.
I removed them after someone added them.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: King Charles III celebrates the first anniversary of his coronation, marked by his cancer diagnosis, I don't think it is relevant Otilio2 (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I don't see that any of them are notorious. The visit of the Chinese President and the new Danish King and Queen are normal diplomatic events and we don't include here anniversaries of ephemerides. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do these entries merit inclusion? 

message: I'm not sure about whether this entry merits inclusion, but I'm leaning towards exclude--Is there an article for this event? The State of Palestine has attempted to become a full member of the UN for decades, so this event would likely have gotten its own article if there was a change in its UN status. 
* May 10 – The United Nations General Assembly increases the rights of Palestine within the United Nations, and advocates for the United Nations Security Council to make Palestine a UN member state.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd include it pending bigger decisions or impacts. For now it's the biggest one which has happened, though if more significant developments occur, I'd be in favor of condensing all of it into a single entry. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion and wording of this entry 

message: Shouldn't we add the beginning of the Rafah offensive to the section of events in May, given how much is being reported on it, and how important it has become? Tornadoboy7 (talk) 16:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait and see. Way too often do we, not to discount myself, fall into TOOSOON traps, and this looks like yet another one. Until something is firm in place, I'd exclude, pending extraneous circumstances like when the entire world's TV sets were focused on lower Manhattan during 9/11. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand. but it seems that most news sources are covering this topic at the current moment. Plus, it looks like the Rafah offensive will go on for some time. Tornadoboy7 (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Wait because neither Israel, Hamas, or any large s organizations monitoring the situation have said that Israel has begun its formal invasion aside from some skirmishes and missile exchanges. PaulRKil (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of the Rafah Offensive 

message: There has been a relatively decent number of media reporting about the incident (BBC, CNN, etc). It is also a very rare occurrence of severe turbulence mid-air, and has resulted in the death of a 73 year old man. Should it be included? Though, since the fatality count is quite small, maybe it is not that significant. It is also a very rare incident incurred on Singapore Airlines involving casualties, last time being 2000. So, up to you to include it. 2406:3003:2002:2D79:D93A:C16E:D2E1:4F6 (talk) 03:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It best belongs in 2024 in Singapore. Indiana6724 (talk) 03:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Exclude. Sad event, but relatively minor casualties, and the plane wasn't destroyed. Wjfox2005 (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singapore Airlines Flight 321 

message: Since we're halfway through 2024 I think we should start talking which events are candidates for collage photos. My candidates are:
The Israel-Hamas war
The 2024 Summer olympics (when they happen of course)
The 2024 U.S. presidential election (doubt it)
Which events do you think deserve a mention in the collage by the end of 2024
See ya! Superyassi362 (talk) 19:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collage Prototype  

message: I'm unsure, but leaning towards exclude because it's a domestic political event that mainly applies to the United States--it certainly belongs in 2024 in the United States--but isn't particularly important outside of the United States. I don't think pages about years have previously featured former heads of state being prosecuted, though I could be wrong.
* May 30 – Former United States President Donald Trump is found guilty on 34 counts in regards to his hush money trial, the first time any American president (sitting or former) has been found guilty of a crime. He faces up to four years in prison.
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Strong include. For God's sake. This is a highly notable trial. Massive, global attention and undoubtedly one of the defining moments of 2024. I think it's ludicrous to suggest this "isn't particularly important outside of the United States", when the U.S. President is literally the most powerful and influential person on the entire planet, and this guy possibly still has a chance at a 2nd term. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

text: weak exclusion in the Trump ecosystem is yet another conviction in yet another court case. It is a relevant event because it concerns a former US president, but it is a local one, with no (for now) remarkable long-term impact (legislative changes, real influence on the November elections, protests in the streets...), but it is certainly not “one of the defining moments of 2024”. In fact it is the conviction for a business crime, and it would be more notorious if it were a crime related to presidential or post-presidential political activity (rebellion, sedition, large-scale corruption, war crimes...). I have my doubts. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Include - This is a very important (and historic) event, The First U.S President (former or sitting) to have been convicted of a crime. InterDoesWiki (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Weak include  since he is a major candidate and certainly the GOP nominee along with being a former president. Exclude the sentence regarding potential jail-time. I think it is too sensationalistic to keep in there and without sounding too crystal ball, pretty much every legal expert thinks he won't spend a day in prison. PaulRKil (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Trump's conviction in New York merit an entry?