Talk:Itchycoo Park

message: My understanding of Itchycoo Park is that it was a place where people took drugs.  Get 'high' and 'all too beautiful' was about taking LSD, I thought
::See, now, I always thought it was Japanese, "Ichiko Park".  The reference to a Bridge of Sighs just sealed that image in my head.  Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 14:19, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: Re: someone keeps adding this info - "Session guitarist Big Jim Sullivan devised the distinctive opening" - I am currently checking this out with Small Faces biographer John Hellier Sue Wallace 09:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the man himself! Thanks for taking the time to verify the information; but remember, if it's not written down we can't actually use it! If I recall correctly, Itchycoo Park was a bit of a generic term throughout the East End, for any open space frequented by tramps (see Spitalfields, Whitechapel, etc). Kbthompson 09:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

text: If the issue turns up, it can always be flagged as disputed. What we actually need are written down references, either in a book, or on the web. Cheers for all the work you've done on these subjects. Kbthompson 16:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I enjoyed trying to solve this mystery, shame it seems like its Jim's word against Mac and Kenney's, since there doesn't appear to be any proof available, not to say that Jim isn't telling the truth here, but any session musician in theory, could, many years later make such claims. Sue Wallace 16:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: I grew up in Ilford in the 1960s, and it was certainly commonly believed that this song was about Little Ilford Park. However, I never heard a suggestion that it was inspired by Valentines Park. Nor did I ever hear anybody refer to Valentines as Itchycoo Park. I have requested a source for this claim; if none is provided, I will eventually remove the sentence. RolandR (talk) 16:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: To people living in Little Ilford, the name of "Itchycoo Park" was always a popular local name for Little Ilford Park. Rif Winfield (former Borough Councillor for Little Ilford Ward) Rif Winfield (talk) 12:49, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valentines Park 

message: I reverted some edits stating that there were factual errors.  These comments do not belong on the article page. they go here on the talk page where they can be discussed.  Also please pardon my reverting my own edits as vandalism. lol . --RichardMills65 (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: The header of the article claims the song hit #3 on the UK charts. But down near the end the table says it got to #11. I don't have access to the data to know which one is correct. Can someone with such access fix the article? Tx. Kurt (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did it reach #3 or #11? 

message: Based on the source given, Itchy Park is quite clearly a different park to any of the three parks / open spaces laying claim to be Itchycoo park. I would suggest that the reference goes under 'See also' or 'not to be confused with'/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.93.63 (talk) 13:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Itchy Park 

message: This article makes a big deal out of flanging and how this recording was one of the first to use it.  That is a spuious claim.  Flanging was known in the 1940s and several recordings in the 1950s made use of it.
:216.152.18.132 (talk) 19:29, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "One of the first" is rather difficult to pin down. One the first three, the first thirty, the first three hundred, or the first three thousand? Whatever the precise meaning, it reasonably suggests something closer to "the first three", and thus would appear to be wildly inaccurate. The Wikipedia article to which you link mentions numerous earlier examples, then makes the same claim for "Itchycoo Park" as this one. This is especially strange because that article had just above talked about the use of flanging in the Beatles song "Tomorrow Never Knows", released the year before (1966). Show me a Wikipedia editor who thinks "Itchycoo Park" is a pop song and "Tomorrow Never Knows" is not, and I'll show a Wikipedia editor who hasn't the slightest idea what the term "pop" means--typical for Wikipedia, though. Just to be clear: they're both very much pop songs--although "Tomorrow Never Knows" was never released as a single. Maybe it should say "one of first rock era hit singles". In any case, I've just toned down the flanging claim for "Itchycoo Park" in THIS article. TheScotch (talk) 07:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flanging 

message: “Itchycoo Park” is obviously strongly influenced by (which is an understatement), structured like, and modeled after the Beatles song released earlier the same year. The article should point this out. Of course we’ll need a source, but the derivation is so transparent and brazen, it’s difficult to believe a source doesn’t exist. TheScotch (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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message: The reference to "Bridge of Sighs" added to "Dreaming Spires" surely suggest an Oxfordian connection - Oxford is known as 'the city of dreaming spires' and there is a namesake of the Venetian crossing in the English university city - although I am none the wiser as to any park location. Barry Baritone (talk) 08:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location