Talk:Berlin Philharmonic

message: I am not sure what this article is about, and the name is no help. Is it about the orchestra Berliner Philharmoniker or their concert halls in the building Berliner Philharmonie or both? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the lead: "The Berlin Philharmonic . . . is an orchestra". --Kleinzach 12:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the lead. But the infobox shows the building, and the organ as an instrument is also rather connected to the building. How would the Philharmonie be translated? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Philharmonic Hall, perhaps. But I agree that the article is essentially about the orchestra. Rothorpe (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  We have an article on the building; it's at Berliner Philharmonie. Angr (talk) 21:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wouldn't it make sense then to have an article Berliner Philharmoniker? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The hall article being at "Philharmonie" suggests it is known by that name in English, but the orchestra isn't normally known by its German name. Rothorpe (talk) 22:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I read comments above about the Library of Congress, and the name the orchestra gave itself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Ah, exonyms and endonyms. Where will it end? Rothorpe (talk) 22:52, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. What has geography got to do with this? Kleinzach 23:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

text: I don't know, but find "The orchestras themselves determine their names, not Wikipedia" a bit amusing. Remember "The Flying Dutchman". The author determines the name of his work? No. We have "common name". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

text: That link doesn't work for me. Rothorpe (talk) 00:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It should work now. Kleinzach 04:18, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Thanks, yes. Rothorpe (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not stand up - as said above - for "all these names" in German. I vote for the original name in any language (not only German), if the translation (common name or not) is misleading. I would say to have a plural word translated to a singular is misleading enough. - In case of the mentioned opera it's worse than misleading, the author created it in German, The Grove mentions it in German, but here we follow the common name religion ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Gerda Arendt:  Titles of compositions are completely different from titles of organizations. Please take your opera comments to the Opera project. Thank you. --Kleinzach 06:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This was only a reminder of my failed move request (that I though everybody knew), please forgive me ;) - Back to the Berlin orchestra: the German name speaks of people, in a plural term, the English "Philharmonic" (with "orchestra" or without) seems to mean an organization, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Gerda, see for example here. Kleinzach 07:48, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "Philharmonic" meaning "philharmonic players" is one (fine) thing, but you would still say "IS" an orchestra, while the equivalent German would translate to "ARE" an orchestra, "die Philharmoniker spielen", THEY play, - I see a difference. Please note that I didn't make a move request, nor will I. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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message: Surely there is more to be said about the Berlin Phil's attitude to women. The brief mention of its first female member doesn't seem quite to do justice to the issue, both historically and still (remarkably few female violinists for example at the Prom I went to at the weekend) 128.41.63.54 (talk) 13:23, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: Should the lead paragraph of this article contain reference to the fact that the orchestra is/has been consistently ranked in the top three recording orchestras in the world? It's easily referenced and seems like a major point of distinction among orchestras—and a prime candidate for lead paragraph inclusion. However other editors feel this is either not supportable or subjective: It is supportable by reference and WP:Opinion does not apply to referenced source(s) from professional recording critics. What am I missing? Lexlex (talk) 19:22, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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message: I looked up this article to find the answer...and it doesn't say anything about the partition of Berlin after World War II, and what that had to do with the Philharmonic. This is pretty important information to include in the article. 68.173.24.203 (talk) 13:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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