Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics/Archive 16

message: Hello. Since the last 1-2 months, WP:INCOTW is dire need of more attention from regular wikipedians. There are a lot of articles out there which need improvement. All of us are working (very well) on our areas of interest, but this very good opportunity to work together and create great articles is being lost. To make things better and more attractive, the rule about allowing only stubs to be nominated has been lifted. I was looking out for a particular area being ignored by us till Dwaipayanc brought Template:Life in India to my attention. I have analysed the list of articles there and my findings can be read here. What I propose is that people start nominating articles from the template (the worst and most interesting first) and also spend some more time working on articles selected as INCOTW. Please give your suggestions and ideas about the entire INCOTW process at the talk page. - Aksi_great (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plan of action for INCOTW 

message: Many of you may have come to Gujarat. I am looking for pictures to improve Gujarat-related articles. If you have pictures of various places of Gujarat like Gir, Nalsarovar, Kutch, etc. please upload them at commons. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image request 

message: Hi - based on the discussion above, I've created a newsletter framework based on the Wikipedia Signpost. Its only rudimentary and can be modified into a new layout anytime. I've created some sections of specific news and information, and more need to be added. I request the participation of all who read this. Rama's arrow 20:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics/Newsalert]] 

message: Hi all - I've put up Ziaur Rahman for FAC. Please check it out. Rama's arrow 13:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ziaur Rahman FAC 

message: Portal:Government of India has been created. Please suggest your views to make it improve. Please take participation in article and list selection. Actually it will work from October 1 in full phase, so anniversary also has dated October 1.  Shyam (T/C) 20:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Portal:Government of India]]

message: Hi - I request all to please check out Kazi Nazrul Islam (FAC). Thanks, Rama's arrow 00:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kazi Nazrul Islam]] 

message: Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics/Newsalert I need help in starting the circulation of this newsletter. Updates is easier but the project needs more regular contributors, ideas and suggestions. Basic formatting and layout have been done, but some issues need sorting. Rama's arrow 19:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help in distribution but who do we distribute it to? -- Lost(talk) 19:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I just read Lost's message. This can be distributed to all members of the India wikiproject. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Might as well include members of the child projects too? We can include the option to opt out if they dont want it. -- Lost(talk) 20:06, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I am thinking we would be using AWB to do this. This is how I am thinking it will work. Use WikiProject_India/Members page to get a list of users and append these alerts to their talk pages. If we include child projects, it will be a lot of work for the person sending the alerts out. The news letter has a footer section giving the instructions to opt out. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Question: Shall we automatically add everyone at Wikipedia:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics#Members to the India wikiproject? At some point, they have mentioned interest in the project. So I think it will be allright. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes though I dont see too many of those names active. We would just be cluttering their talk pages with our newsletter. -- Lost(talk) 20:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You are right. We should take the active users out of that section. Users, let us say, that have edited atleast once in the last 3 months. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Indian Wikipedians (active people) would be great resource that we can pull from too. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: almost 500 guys, wow!! Yes good idea. Maybe we could atleast leave a single issue on each of their pages. Afterwards we can be more conservative. But then we will have to enlist Ganeshbot for this. Even with AWB, it'll take me ages to do it:) -- Lost(talk) 20:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You can have your AWB account registered as a bot so that you can use the Autosave checkbox to let AWB on a automatic mode. Are you aware of this? - Ganeshk (talk) 20:49, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I wasnt actually. I always thought getting a bot approval was a very technical thing. Will ask you more regarding this on your talk page -- Lost(talk) 21:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: (edit conflict)I have started a Outreach department, kind of a Editor's desk for doing this activity. I have merged your newslert under the department so it is organized better. Could you please check out September 2006 Newsletter and add to that. I feel the news alert must give new information everytime, not link to existing project pages that everyone is aware of. The new template has sections to add news and new proposals. Everyone please join in and comment. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics/Newsalert]] 

message: So what is the conclusion of this debate?
Sisodia 00:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Categorize by ethnicity looks the way to go. Ethnicity should come first.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, there hasn't been any solution to this. Ethnicity is just fine, we were actually debating about region-related categories. A consistent, unambiguous approach hasn't been found. --Ragib 01:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Since the Wikipedia Project itself is region based, I don't see why the category should not also be region based.  It should be :Category:People from Bagladesh, :Category:People from West Bengal etc.  Chaipau 12:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

text: On the contrary, unless a clear solution has been found, I'd stick to the status quo. --Ragib 05:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree that a solution has not been found.  I suggest the use of categories as appropriate, but clearly defined.  Multiple categories with some overlaps is the correct way to go.  For people from places in Bangladesh before it came into being, it might be appropriate to categorise them in "Historical People of Bangladesh".  This goes for not just countries but ethnic groups too.  For example it might not be appropriate to categorize the king Sashanka in "Bengali people".  Chaipau 14:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am somehow not a big fan of linking defferent debates, because things that seem coming from a similar "template" are simply not same in the real world. In the case of Bangladesh, on one hand, the word Bangladeshi has strong connotations linking it to the present day state, on the other hand, there is an encyclopedic need to associate people born in present day Bangladesh to its history and culture. I'd go for any of "People from Bangladesh", "Historical People of Bangladesh", "Bangladesh-born historical figures" or any reasonable variation thereof. Btw, is Sashanka not known to be Bengali?--ppm 19:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Shashanka ruled in the 7th century, which is barely into the Apabhramsha period.  Bengali as a language did not exist then. Chaipau 23:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  But Bengali is an etnicity as well, not only a language group. Anway, no big deal--ppm 16:08, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

text:  Okay, imho, "The people of Bangladesh" would be the best solution.--ppm 19:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography/Ethnicty Conclusions

message: Some pages related to Portal:India has been enlisted for deletion. Please make your comments.  Shyam (T/C) 16:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are the creator, can't these be speedied if no pages are related to them? - Ganeshk (talk) 16:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shyam is not the creator; in fact no single person created them all. That is why  won't be applicable. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellany for deletion

message: Can someone please check this deletion nom and comment? - Ganeshk (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian town deletion nom 

message: Hi all - it is impossible for me to reach the talkpages of everyone I know, so I request you through this to please do me the kindness of visiting and sharing your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  review 

message: Everybody knows the user language templates. Now there is also a template to show knowledge of writing systems. If you know cyrillic at level 4, you would do . 'Cyrl' is the ISO 15924 code for that script. Look whether Template:User iso15924/data-table already has your script(s), otherwise have a look at Template:User_iso15924 or ask for help at Template_talk:User_iso15924. This can be of great help when an editor is looking for someone who knows a certain script. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 16:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  show your knowledge of indic scripts 

message: I wanted to post here that Politics of India project has completed creating all the politician articles from the 14th Lok Sabha. It was some tireless and dedicated work by User:Shyam Bihari and User:Aksi great which helped with the completion. - Ganeshk (talk) 16:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  14th Lok Sabha complete 

message: With help from Ganeshk, I have modified Ganeshkbot's code to port it to Bengali wikipedia, in order to create articles on Indian cities. Now, this requires the city and district names to be written in Bengali. I have got those from West Bengal correctly written/transliterated by an editor from West Bengal, but for south Indian city names, I'm hopelessly stuck on how to transliterate their names in Bengali. So, a little help from someone who could do that would be much appreciated. If you can help in this, please drop me a note in my talk page. Thanks in advance. --Ragib 05:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bengali transliteration of Indian city/district names 

message: There is a proposal to move Jallianwala_Bagh_Massacre to Amritsar Massacre. I quote from WP:RM, "Rationale: Article was located at Amritsar Massacre from 2003 until a new user moved it with an awful cut-and-paste job in April 2006. Almost every page that links to Jallianwala Bagh Massacre does so through the redirect at Amritsar Massacre. Google shows 17,000+ hits for "Jallianwala Bagh Massacre" but 44,000+ hits for "Amritsar Massacre", including Encyclopædia Britannica. Clearly this is the most common English usage. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Jallianwala Bagh Massacre - Kafziel 16:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Jallianwala_Bagh_Massacre]] 

message: I wanted to post a observation. I think the project banner and the efforts by the outreach department is helping get more members to this project. Our membership is 43 strong now, many of them new faces. I request each of you to participate in the outreach department, there are a few templates that you can use to invite people that might be interested in this project. I really appreciate the help of many who have been doing this. I hope the new members continue to stay and make this project stronger. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 04:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project banner is working 

message: Jimbo speaks and Bengali Wiki passes 10000
GizzaChat © 05:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  News on Indian languages 

message: Stubs in  need to be further sorted and articles belonging to dance category are definately above 60. I have proposed the above stub, so do support it at  Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/September. IrfanAli 14:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|India-dance-stub}} 

message: Please see the changes made in Mahatma Gandhi. The subsection "Artistic depictions" was shortened, and a new daughter article (Artistic depictions of Mahatma Gandhi) created by shifting contents from Mahatma Gandhi. Please see if the changes are ok. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mahatma Gandhi]] changes

message: Please see the last 3 paragraphs of criticism in Mahatma Gandhi. This portion needs citation as well as shortening. While the sleeping fact has been written in some literatures (so citations should not be problem), the discussion on this deserves much less space than it at present occupies in the article...remembering that it is a biographical article discussing all the facets of his life.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More changes needed in [[mahatma Gandhi]]

message: Yo - can we immediately launch an FA drive for Delhi and Hyderabad, India? These are the last of the metropolitan cities of India that aren't FAs. There isn't much work to do as a lot of data is already present. We can realistically finish work in a week's time. Rama's arrow 22:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. Some modification in "Culture" section in Delhi is almost enough. Hyderabad needs more work though.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian Cities FAs 

message: Please comment on this project proposal. - Ganeshk (talk) 16:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Indian cuisine 

message: Is anyone able to help save War elephant from FARC?  It's been up for quite a while, no one has even touched it, and the MilHist group doesn't seem interested.  I was hoping someone here might be able to at least improve it, if not save it from losing its featured status.  Regards, Sandy 13:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[War elephant]] 

message: In spirit of WP:∫, :Category:Hindu temples in India has been diffused. Please add new articles on Hindu temples to state-wise subcategories. utcursch | talk 14:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another category diffused 

message: :I've been looking at articles in the cat "Terrorism in India" and many of these articles are in terrible shape! Please try to work to improve these articles. I just did some work on Wandhama massacre and would like some help here.
:Instead of spending all your time on Bollywood actors and their sexual exploits, how about contributing to these serious articles which are in such horrid condition?Hkelkar 03:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How many of you are actually awake???

message: Following the icebreaker meet that we had, here's a call for an informal meetup of Bangalore Wikipedians coming weekend. We can talk about an Indian chapter of Wikimedia and similar discussions should be held in other places too. Interested people email HP Nadig or me. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I created a template for easier co-ordination. You should post  at Talk:Bangalore and various places. You could also spam :Category:Wikipedians in Bangalore. :) - Ganeshk (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Ganesh. I'll start spamming them with your template. :) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  An informal Bangalore meetup 

message: New stub created as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/September 2006 completed. IrfanAli|Talk 19:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: {{tl|India-dance-stub}}

message: My recent workgroup creation moves has led to this discussion on how taskforces/workgroups be organized. Region-wise or Content-wise. Please comment. If any reading this, feels I am vote-canvassing, it was not my intent. This message will be posted at WT:IND and WT:INCINE. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 20:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Task forces 

message: The DYK section featured on the main page is always looking for interesting new and recently expanded stubs from different parts of the world. Please make a suggestion.--Peta 02:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK

message: All contributors to India-related FAs/FACs have done great work so far - we're up to 45 and set to hit 65-70 by the end of the year. I'm listing articles that are not in FA drives but have a lot of info and can be raised to FA status with focus and concentration, but less overall work and swiftly. I encourage all editors to have a crack at 1-2 of these:
*Atal Bihari Vajpayee
*K. R. Narayanan 
*Indira Gandhi
*Hinduism - former FA
*Maurya Empire
*Taj Mahal
*History of India
*Delhi
*Bengali language
*Indian Standard Time - 1 FAC
*West Bengal - being polished right now
*Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
*Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
*Indus Valley Civilisation
Rama's arrow 14:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA Chart