Talk:Grokster

message: The problem with a page like this is that it is ephemeral so it should not engage in journalism but restrict itself to a short factual exposition. I have attempted to produce this. No doubt, when the Supreme Court issues its decision, someone can rewrite it. -David91 17:11, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brushed 

message: I have removed the following material from the page:
:==The spyware problem==
:Grokster is a Peer-To-Peer File Sharing program. It offers free, peer-to-peer fast and detailed searches, no incomplete/failed downloads, auto resume, fast downloads, file preview, and ability to handle all file types. In an organization, Grokster can severely degrade network performance and consume vast amounts of storage. Installs numerous other products, including Active Delivery, CasinoOnNet, ClipGenie, CommonName, Cydoor, DelFin Media Viewer, DownloadWare, eUniverse, FavoriteMan, FlashTrack, Gator, IGetNet, IGetNet/ClearSearch, IncrediFind, IPInsight, Look2Me, Lycos.SideSearch, NetworkEssentials, NetworkEssentials/SCBar, PeopleOnPage, RVP, SAHAgent, Search-EXE, SearchEnhancement, TOPicks, VX2/e, VX2/f, and Webhancer. 
:In recent versions of Grokster, the download includes additional applications that are bundled within the software's installer file, some of which may be provided by parties other than the developer of the download. These applications may deliver advertisements, collect personal information, overlay content or graphics on the Web site you are viewing, or modify your system settings. Pay close attention to the options presented to you during the installation process. As of 9/3/02, the version of Grokster available for download requires that you also install Cydoor and GAIN components. During installation, you will also be presented with more than 10 optional installation items and/or services from Symantec, File Freedom, New.net, eBates, GreenCarrot, and others. 
:Additional information from Spyware Information Center
:Spyware Information Center and Microsoft are the sources for this information.
:Source citations Computer Associates Spyware Information Center http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=453060425
:Microsoft Corporation http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;317013 and http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-us&st=b&na=82&qu=grokster"
The page is primarily concerned with the litigation. That there may be some spyware introduced by the downloading and use of the software is irrelevant to the general thrust of the page. However, rather than simply delete it, I have saved it all here and those with a sufficient interest can move it to pages where it would be more relevant. David91 04:53, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Material from article

message: I felt bold tonight and removed the line "They are now logging your IP once you even get onto their original homepage to use against users" from that paragraph.  A source is not cited for this claim and it's dubious at best. -Spectere 04:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To further elaborate, I don't doubt that the IP addresses are logged, per se (since they are on virtually every web server a person hits) but I highly doubt that it's "used against users."  If so, Google, Microsoft, et al, are in big trouble, thanks to their web caching services. :)  -Spectere 05:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable statement in "piracy argument" section. 

message: http://www.grokster.com says stuff like:
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The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed
that using this service to trade copyrighted material is illegal.
Copying copyrighted motion picture and music files
using unauthorized peer-to-peer services is illegal and is
prosecuted by copyright owners.
There are legal services for downloading music and movies.
This service is not one of them. 
YOUR IP ADDRESS IS [I removed my IP] AND HAS BEEN LOGGED.
Don't think you can't get caught. You are not anonymous.
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That kinda thing.  ???? Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 01:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's going on with the present hosting of their website http://www.grokster.com/ ?? 

message: I think there should be a warning on the link to the Grokster website that logging on to it will have your IP logged  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.39.247 (talk) 20:35, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The only link to grokster.com from this article is a reference for the warning you are talking about. I don't see why should we add another warning for that. As a side note, you can expect that your IP address will be logged whenever you access any website, and I don't see any reason why accessing this particular website should be illegal or cause any kind of problems for anyone. I think the message is just FUD. User<Svick>.Talk(); 20:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. And also the original poster has his IP listed here (by sinebot)! Ms.henrick (talk) 09:58, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning 

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I want to add some portion at the end of this page to put the shutdown in some kind of context and provide some information concerning the after effects of the grokster shutdown, specifically I want to include a link to the wikipedia page on doe subpoenas that will help people understand what the threat of IP logging means.  I have also found a statistical research paper that gives some analysis of how users react to these type of legal threats.Jaugust87 (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: additions for aftermath of shutdown

message: I would also like to add a clarification of grokster, morpheus and kazzaa as second generation peer to peer programs as differentiated from Napster
any thoughts would be appreciated.  Jaugust87 (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: second generation peer to peer program

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