Talk:The Far Side

message: I find it odd that the critism section which is ill sourced except for the Jane Goodall controversy is larger than the description of Larson's style influence etc.
Does every single wikipedia article need a critisim section? Does this balance articles or does this systematic adding of criticisms sections become a bias in itself?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.108.31.36 (talk) 19:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is critisim bigger than description?

message: The image of "Gary Larson's take on Creationism" seems to have a bad link. In the face of the current controversies over Evolution, Creationism, and Intelligent Design, is this really the appropriate cartoon to post? I can think of others that are more indicative of The Far Side. Too, do we have rights to post that image? Removing image tag for now. -Fuzzy 15:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "In the face of the current controversies over Evolution, Creationism, and Intelligent Design, is this really the appropriate cartoon to post?" I don't see anything wrong with it. Dante (Δαντε) 00:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right that there's no particular problem with the specific cartoon. I'd been through a long day of people arguing about the whole Kansas evolution bit and having the image tag come up bad as well... just bad timing. I thought nothing of it until now, when I saw the reply. -Fuzzy 13:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Posted image

message: Can someone provide a source for this information.  The phrase "Far Side Uncertainty Principle" has zero Google hits.  Is this original research? --JW1805 00:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far Side Uncertainty Principle 

message: I just read a collection of Far Side, and there were definitely some entries with more than one box. I'm going to change the article to reflect this truth.Tix 21:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy 

message: The link "Jane Goodall Controversy" just leads to the Jane Goodall page, and there's no mention on that page of any Far Side related controversy.
*Someone just deleted it yesterday for no apparent reason. I added it back. We'll see if another edit war starts. :\ Wahkeenah 06:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't we just describe the controversy here on this page? I think it relates more to Larsen than it does to Goodall, it has so little on her page that we should just do it here.
Mbatman72 23:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jane Goodall? 

message: I've severely edited the "Inspiration" Section, because I believe the dependency is far from obvious. e.g. Larson didn't invent the idea of monsters in closets. I was going to delete the whole section, except the added "homage" was interesting. In any case, I still propose the whole section is deleted. Rocksong 02:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Inspiration" Section 

message: The 'References in Other Media' section seems highly speculatory.  It needs citations showing a definitive link.  The only 'reference' cited that seems convincing as an actual reference to Far Side is the Toy Story one, the others seem to be coincidences, if even that.  I doubt Chicken Farm was inspired by Far Side.  I'll give it a few days for someone to find citations, but otherwise it needs to be deleted. --The Way 08:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations or Deletion of References in other Media 

message: In The Complete Far Side, Gary Larson says that he drew the same comic twice. However, he doesn't list which one it is. Does anyone know which one? Thanks.
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replies: text: Uh, like you did? Jmdeur (talk) 20:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeat comic?

message: I think that what it features is just stupid. You could go on forever saying the contents, the point is that the far side does not consistently focus on the same thing.  I think it needs some major edits.
Mbatman72 03:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean the "Recurring themes" list, totally agree.  This whole section could be reduced to a couple of paragraphs, and the list is neither truly comprehensive nor cohesive anyway.  Gut it, describe those features that are truly and frequently recurring (cows, anthropomorphism and anti-anthropomorphism, etc.) and discard the rest.  For instance, "scientists in labs" probably don't appear any more frequently in The Far Side than they do in Frank and Ernest, The Neighborhood or Alley Oop, so it doesn't merit mention here. 71.204.204.249 13:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, yes, yes, YES, that needs a revamp. A list of recurring themes shouldn't be longer than maybe 10 items, or 20 if you stretch it (and I mean total). Really, that is WAY too long. 24.16.135.149 (talk) 23:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List?

message: This section is lifted almost verbatim from the book The Prehistory of the Far Side, except here the cartoons are described rather than shown. This really should be attributed as a quotation. Dmccormac 19:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes section 

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message: For the record, I have The Complete Far Side sitting menacingly on my bookshelf, featuring within every last Far Side strip, but for those in the Prehistory of... and the book-specific specials. I can provide descriptions, dates etc. of specific strips for improving the article if given enough data for a search. Give me a hoot on my talk page if you need anything. --Kizor 07:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Available source for finding strips, dates 

message: I have all the cartoons and caption and cross-referencse for The Complete Far Side and the books, and History of The Far Side, on a CD with a search engine and database, so if anyone would like information on Far Side Cartoon, drop me a line on my page Whereiswally 01:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far Side Search 

message: I have deleted a lot of this article for the various reasons:
Original research, things copied directly from Far Side books, LONG descriptions of single panel cartoons, and personal POV.  Please comment here if you think I've errored. Bkatcher (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My massive edits 

message: I was searching for this page under the farside. should farside (with no space) redirect to this page?
Iron Dullahan (talk) 02:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, there are several other articles with 'far side' in the title, let's just leave it as with the disambiguation page. Bkatcher (talk) 16:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking 

message: The article says, "It is difficult to find many Far Side cartoons online..."
What? Was this written before Google Image Search or something? It's simple to find many Far Side cartoons online. Try it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.159.56.2 (talk) 06:10, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Online" 

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message: There are seemingly more well-known and notable Far Side cartoons than those listed in the "notable" section (for instance, "Midvale School for the Gifted"). The article seems rather unbalanced, given that so much of it is dedicated to a couple of interesting, but non-representative comics. Khromegnome (talk) 16:02, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We can add others that are not as controversial as long as there are reliable sources providing commentary on them. I am absolutely sure more people know of the School for the Gifted -- but has anyone actually written about it? Labeling the section as "notable" rather than "controversal" keeps the tone in balance without other examples to work from. --Masem (t) 16:11, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

text: We can only mention individual cartoons that have sources; it has nothing to do with bias. Controversy tends to be covered more than non-controversy. freshacconci (✉) 16:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

text: I'm arguing the opposite. I think that these are a good representation of controversial cartoons (one way to be notable), but a poor representation of notable cartoons. Hence, calling the section "notable" instead of "controversial" gives the wrong impression. It'd be an improvement to change the name of the section, and even better to add some examples of notable cartoons (googling, there seem to be articles written about "Midvale school for the Gifted"). (And sorry to use the loaded word "bias" - I meant it only in the literal sense that one subcategory is overrepresented) Khromegnome (talk) 06:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree Khromegnome - someone seems to have conflated controversial with notability - they are not the same. The Midvale cartoon is definitely "notable". I'm not sure how you would populate the rest of it without becoming an OR fest of personal opinion.  As such I would suggest changing the section title to "Controversial" and calling it good. Ckruschke (talk) 18:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "notable cartoons" section is heavily biased towards controversial cartoons 

message: Could someone update the "Notable cartoons" section to include the "School for the gifted" cartoon? The Mo-Ja'al (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We need a reliable source to state it is a notable cartoon. It's common knowledge that it is, but I haven't found any reliable source that actually says that. --Masem (t) 22:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  School for the Gifted 

message: Is anyone working on something about the new cartoons being released Right Now? Thmazing (talk) 04:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Already updated that he started putting out new cartoons this month. --Masem (t) 04:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New cartoons 

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