Talk:Jan Guillou

message: Guillou is a weird guy and a left wing eccentric.
This article has taken all his eccentricities to the fullest.
It sure isn't fair and balanced. It is so obvious that the main writer of the article really cannot stand the guy.
I have read most of his books, I my political views lean towards the right, I vote for Moderaterna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderaterna) but I still think this article paints a too negative image of Guillou.
Decidedly.
Arcsoda (talk) 11:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: The Man, The Myth, The Legend

message: The list of books seems to be incomplete.
I would also like to have a thorough description about which books have been translated into other languages.
:I've been trying, withuot success, to find out whether the first Hamilton novel, Coq Rouge, has been translated into English. I do believe some of the later ones have, though (which seems strange). Also, the list is incomplete, as Guillou has written a science fiction novel for young adults, about an intelligent space ship and an Earth girl, trying to control the ecology on an alien planet but failing miserably (this novel exists in Danish translation).--Peter Knutsen 13:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books 

message: "Guillou destroyed the character (after reports that Swedish neo-Nazis had taken him as their role model."
I removed this part until someone can verify it, I can't seem to find any Swedish source that agrees, not even the Swedish Wikipedia lists this.
Obli 19:58, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Swedish neo-nazis do (or did) view Hamilton as a role model. A tough, macho character ready for action. They were also, obviously, unhappy about his political stance. Guillou said something very similar to this on Danish television, a bunch of years ago (1998, 1999 or perhaps 2000). --Peter Knutsen 14:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coq Rouge 

message: The only -- yes, the only -- purpose with this "article" is to make Guillou appear like an anti-semite, which he isn't and never have been. The connection with Radio Islam is totally irrelevant, just to mention one example of this biased "article".
:Wow. Talk about fanatic and twisted. Besides, Guillou admits being an anti-semite. He compares Israel with the repressive regime in South Africa, he says openly he wants to see Israel destroyed - he says this openly. So what more do you want? 
: I think the article has a few other points, but certainly Guillou has said and done a few controversial things (including his connection with Radio Islam) that need to be mentioned, then let the facts speaks for themselves. If Guillou isn’t anti-semitic: fine. His own words won’t show him to be one then. Rune X2 21:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Facts never speak for themselves unless you have all the facts, which would be impossible in an encyclopaedia. Hence, the selection of facts becomes critical when attempting to give an honest representation of a subject. Reading the article, I get a clear sense that it contains little but cherry picking. Since I am obviously not the only person with this impression, I am adding a POV banner. Grahn 13:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree - I also think that the trivia should be removed or changed. As it is now, it's nothing but "Look here christian americans, ooh he has a lesbian daughter and he is an ateist!!111". Neither his religious belief and that his daughter is in a registered partnership with a woman is important. Ran4 15:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs to be (re-)edited! 

message: See . The UN has a higher authority here. Saying that "the territories aren't occupied according to Israel" is like saying "Iraq isn't occupied because the USA says so". The Palestinian territories are occupied, fin. Quotation marks and "so-called" is petty bias. --Servant Saber 00:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps you should take a look at the articles West Bank, Golan Heights, Western Sahara, Tibet, etc. for some examples on territories claimed to be occupied by one of the two disputing parties. Wikipedia does NOT describe the view that the "Palestinian territories" are occupied as a fact, so neither should this article (if you wan't to challenge this then you should rather bring it up on those articles' talk pages instead). It's also fun that you mention the UN and Iraq, since according to the UN Iraq is not occupied (the multinational forces are there on a mandate both from the UN and the democratically elected Iraqi government). /Slarre 15:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critiscism of the Israeli occupation 

message: He's an atheist. So what? Lots of Scandinavians are. At the very least the article should explain that explicit, open atheism is common in Scandinavia, so as to not give foreign readers the impression that Guillous atheism makes him stick out in a crowd (lots of other things do, obviously, but not that).--Peter Knutsen 14:02, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I Agree, might as well mention he's a heterosexual while we're at it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.208.148.119 (talk) 10:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the information about his atheism in the first place and readded it now (with further details) before viewing this discussion page. Remember that despite explicit atheism is fairly common in Sweden (~23% according to Eurobarometer 2005), atheists still stick out in the international community; for example English Wikipedia. Look over the List of atheists, there are a few Swedes included there (Guillou included), they should not be delisted just because atheism in common in Sweden when it is relatively uncommon in the rest of the world. For the same reason should the information be included on English Wikipedia and because it has an influence on his works. -ramz- (talk) 17:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Guillous atheism noteworthy? 

message: It would certainly be relevant at that point to include bin Laden's own remark contrasting Sweden, specifically, with the US.Varlaam (talk) 16:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  only "an attack on U.S. imperialism" 

message: "He then went on to study for two years at the Solbacka boarding school in Södermanland from where he was also expelled.[6] "
The source dosen´t say he was expelled. There is an swedish auther Paul Frigyes who claims this but Jan Guillou say this is a lie... Here is a  video when Jan show Paul his final grade that he claims prove that he didn´t get expelled http://www.svtplay.se/klipp/1713185/guillou-kraver-att-boken-stoppas  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.239.103.132 (talk) 14:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: The article is mostly POV. In reality, Guillou is a very paradoxical figure in the following sense: 
*He is a convicted spy (IB-affären).
*The military loves him, including the intelligence service. He had a long personal relationship with Birger Elmér (chief of IB back then). He is an unquestionable Swedish patriot.
What he did back in the 1970:s was to clear up a political mess where a political party used the intelligence service as their private intelligence service. Then proclaiming that he is anti-American is decidedly false. He is pro-American - just read his books, he just doesn't shut up when the Americans on occasion fuck up. 
But I too react towards him rarely criticizing events in the Islamic world (he does, just not very often). He is not in favor of all stupidities, but he probably feels that the Arab world receives enough bad criticism as it stands already and says little. YohanN7 (talk) 12:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: False impression

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