Talk:The Birth of Venus

message: When I saw this painting in Florence, it was behind a 2" plate of glass. The bluish tint kind of ruined the experience for me. Supposedly this was done because someone had attacked the painting with a knife. I don't see mention of it here. Does anyone know if this is true? And do they still have it behind that glass? I saw it in 1992, so they may have changed it. 75.65.21.44 (talk) 06:55, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attack? 

message: At least a significant part of the text on this page is identical to the text on this page:
http://www.topofart.com/artists/Alessandro_Filippepi_Botticelli/art_reproduction/158/The_Birth_of_Venus.php
should this be fixed on one or the other?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.29.153.44 (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy? 

message: Should the original Italian name (La nascita di Venere) be added as a subtitle to the English one (The Birth of Venus)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.142.66 (talk) 17:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian Name? 

message: I added the line about the movie sketch; it seemed silly to mention the movie info when it was the same as the TV info.
Or should it have been in the movie section?
CaliforniaDave 02:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monty Python info 

message: The article claims that "she lived in Portovenere".
Is that so? If I remember correctly, she was anecdotally linked to the place. She might have been born there - but she lived in and around Florence.
: Everything about Simonetta Vespucci in this article is so tenuous that it amounts to no more than fantasy.  Nothing is sourced.  Vespucci lived in the Santa Maria Novella district of Florence; her family (and some poor relations) originated in Portovenere, but to say she lived there would be wrong.  Given that there's no source for this statement, that's not surprising.  I added some sources for the weak claim that she was the model, and also added a citation to noted historian Felipe Fernandez-Armesto making the opposite case.  Nandesuka (talk) 00:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simonetta's place of residence 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:La nascita di Venere (Botticelli).jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 29, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-06-29. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng  {chat} 04:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:La nascita di Venere (Botticelli).jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: Hello, I have swapped the old image for a much higher resolution copy made by the Google Art Project, which also includes the full image (including the missing foot which led to the old image's ). However, the colours on this reproduction are noticably less vibrant. Having never seen the original, which is the most accurate colour reproduction? I would invite discussion on the matter. Bob talk 14:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO the Google Art Project version is more colour accurate but underexposed. I've created a brighter version based on adjusting levels of the Google Art Project image which I believe is superiour to both (below) so I will now place that in the article. I've also increased the resolution to 30,000 pixels wide, and will upload full gigapixel tiles for it. Dcoetzee 23:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google Arts Project image 

message: A fairly widely used nickname for the painting is "Venus on the half shell" (which has been used as a book title)... AnonMoos (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

message: Something is fairly wrong with the tone and presentation of the "interpretation." Far too conversational, not enough citation or academia. Also, very hard to actually comprehend without further inspection. This is wikipedia, not a blog.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.116.21 (talk) 00:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the old edits, I think you'll find. I'm trying to clear this up. Johnbod (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: New edits

message: Mack edits. Memo, appears to be high-class COI, but rather appropriates things that all historians had noted for decades. I've been spreading these around. Johnbod (talk) 16:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. That whole section is very problematic: particularly that it is self-referencing and written by the author (COI), but it's also written very informally and doesn't seem to posit much info that merits its own section.  But it's written by someone who does have a published book (not that that's necessarily a proving ground) and has been standing for 7 years, so I don't want to immediately jump straight to deleting it.  Is there much substance here that can be reworked elsewhere? --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 03:14, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If you compare to the original, after writing the above, I have spread around what many other art historians say, leaving only the more personal views. It seems ok to me as it now is - Mack is a fairly distinguished scholar of the period. I'm not seeing the informality in the text now in the article - rather different from that in the diff above. Johnbod (talk) 03:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mack 

message: Currently, there is no mention in the text about all the reinterpretations, homages, etc to the painting in modern culture, so one might as well believe the painting has been forgotten by everyone except art historian. I'd say it is actually of encyclopedic interest, if an article on a historical piece of art also covers, at least in the end and shortly, the noteworthy cases where it has been referred to nowadays - in this case, from Monty Python to Lady Gaga. An  encyclopedic writer on renaissance art still doesn't have to be so snobbish as to dismiss the world they dwell in entirely. Let Uma Thurman return to us! --62.65.236.45 (talk) 10:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't object to a section being added, and the catalogue for the recent V&A exhibition would be an excellent source (presumably - not seen it).  But really most modern references seem to be just picking up on its iconic status as an image rather than showing "influence" as such.  The current article certainly makes clear it has not "been forgotten by everyone except art historians".  Johnbod (talk) 11:21, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  No influence in modern culture whatsoever? 

message: At Aesthetic canon#Proportions in art, this uncited statement is made:
I am revising Body proportions and would like to use this statement (if true) but not without a citation. Can anyone supply? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation help needed please? 

message: Hello. I see you added the note against infoboxes with  last year with the edit summary "no thanks". This summary and the note "NO infobox please", unfortunately, don't help me understand why you're actually against its inclusion. Infoboxes are immensely useful for readers who don't want to read through the whole article to learn key facts about the painting.
About the  of 3 example pictures and the video in article body (moved by ), why do we need 6 large image examples of depictions of Venus in other paintings? It clutters the article and looks horribly bad. — Golden call me maybe? 07:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Re the infobox, I suggest you read MOS:INFOBOXUSE, and the arbcom decision that ended the "infobox wars" of some years ago. In visual articles, boxes take up a lot of space, have varying unhelpful effects, usually reducing the main image (depending on hardware & settings). Your infobox only added a single piece of information to the existing caption, an unhelpful link to the over-general Renaissance. The Khan videos are very good, and given a place in the body of the article in many highly-viewed articles. The Roman images illustrate the section they follow, which I hope you have both read! They are pretty specific to the content. Johnbod (talk) 01:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a link to this discussion in the note, so that future editors aren't as confused as I was. I also moved down Capitoline Venus and Venus de' Medici to a gallery for better design. Cheers — Golden call me maybe? 07:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox and example images 

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