Talk:LZ 130 Graf Zeppelin

message: There seems to be some confusion between sources as to the author of the order for the destruction of the surviving airships and their sheds. German Wikipedia gives an order from Ernst Udet (even going so far as to quote it verbatim), while the main Zeppelin article on the English side, and at least one literary source (When Giants Roamed the Skies) says it was Hermann Göring. I've stated the latter in this article. Willy Logan 23:48, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The direct order to wreck the ships in written form were given by Udet at 4th and 6th March 1940. It is known, that Göring was no friend of the Zepplins. He an some other Gernerals visiteted the the Frankfurt airport on the 1st March. At this point the decision to wreck the ships and hangars was alredy made. While visiting the airships G. Milch (in the vsistors group around Göring) mentioned that both airships and the hangar will be wrecked. The Book of LZ 130 includes also a protocol of Görings talk to Max Pruss at that day. (Source: German Book "LZ 130 Graf Zeppelin und das Ende der Verkehrsluftschiffe" p.189-195) Hadhuey 09:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The End of the Airships 

message: The section needs to be called "The End of the Zeppelins", not "The End of the Airships" because the term "airship" is vague and Zeppelin is much more descriptive. In-Correct (talk) 12:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The End of the Zeppelins 

message: I don't think it's right to have merged LZ 130 Graf Zeppelin II with Hindenburg class airship. The LZ 130 deserves an extensive article the same way the Hindenburg has. If you look at the German article, it's very extensive. Frankyboy5 (talk) 00:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then please go ahead and write that article! An article on the class in general can stand side-by-side with articles on the two individual aircraft - there are many many such examples on Wikipedia. --Rlandmann (talk) 01:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a good idea...

message: I am adjusting the German to English translation (from Babelfish I assume) of the flights section. The word 
Funkbeschickung was not in my largest German dictionary (to me it appears to mean "sending radio examplars"), however I found it it is a form of calibrating radio direction-finding equipment. The technical  level is outside my expertise, but this document describes it in detail with pictures and diagrams:
*Grabau, Rudolf. Geräteausstattung zur Ver- messung von Peilplätzen, Funkgeschickte Nr. 176 (2007). www.radiomuseum.org. (German) last accessed 2008-08-02
In case any radio-experts have a better translation...
-84user (talk) 19:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjusting translation - Funkbeschickung 

message: This Czech link has all 30 flights detailed in a table with start and landing times, kilometres covered, commander, and all the overflown towns. However, it has typos. I did not add any information from this table, but I did use it to resolve some ambiguities (such as Eger which could be one of three or more places, but is infact Cheb). Also the Czech source has Würzburgfahrt on August 6, as do some philately sites, but the German wikipedia has August 5. In the spirit of Wikipedia:Verifiability I did not change this as I have cited the German article! There maybe other inaccuracies. -84user (talk) 02:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Czech source 

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message: This article as exsted for almost as long as Wikipedia has, but it is poorly referenced and full of misunderstandings and bad writing. Would there be any appetite to improve it? --The Huhsz (talk) 09:33, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better references 

message: It appears LZ 130 on its spying mission also overflew the huge ICI Explosives factory at Ardeer, a local Saltcoats photographer Robert Brown taking a photograph of it http://www.ayrshireroots.com/Towns/Saltcoats/Old%20Views/Robert%20Brown/Robert%20Brown%20Collection.htm Bohun (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ICI Explosives Factory, Ardeer