Talk:Nubians

message: I deleted a number of claims that were not associated with a source.  These were that the nubians were famous for their great military their advanced civilization that they used poison tipped arrows, and that they were known for their great wealth.  These claims were all linked to a source that discussed the importance of the bow in nubian culture.  I left relevant information about nubian archers, but first of all saying the nubians were known for their great wealth, advanced civilization, and great military is unsourced and therefore has no place in this entry.  Second of all, this is opinion based, and it could be argued that many ancient nations would have been known for their great wealth, advanced civilization and great military.  I also deleted a claim that the nubians were known for their 23 letter alphabet.  The citation listed also does not mention anything about a 23 letter alphabet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.190.174.107 (talk) 01:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take a look tomorrow. There's no reason you can't edit the page, it's not protected. Is it just the claims above you are referring to?Dougweller (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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thread_title:  unsourced claims

message: It sais that all ancient nubians are depicted with very dark skin but some of them particularly the leaders are depicted with skin the same as the Egyptians. It is actually racist to put they are depicted with very dark skin in the article as it does not say ancient greeks are depicted with very light skin. I'm changing it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.177.104 (talk) 22:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nubian Dark Skin

message: I added a link to Nubian languages. The reference re language & Nobiin should be clarified with reference to the latter (which is well-written). --A12n 16:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nubian languages

message: I added the following to the article - 
:"North American blacks will sometimes refer to beautiful black women (usually dark-skinned) as Nubian (adjective) or a Nubian Princess (noun). These terms are used regardless of the woman's actual African origin. It is considered a compliment." 
I dont think it means just dark skinned african/ african american women I think it means all skin tones of women of African descent. I think many people think that all africans are dark skinned and look like the Bantu ethnic groups.
I came to the Nubian article in the first place because I was familiar with this usage and I wanted to know who the real Nubians were. I believe this addition is relevant to the article. I am white but I believe my description of the slang is accurate. If you feel it does not belong in the article please discuss it here. -Jonathan in California —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.127.73.172 (talk) 03:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The use of Nubian to refer with pride to African heritage is valid for inclusion. "Nubian Princess," which isn't, is just derived from it by analogy with JAP, &c. -LlywelynII (talk) 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No it is not valid for inclusion: North American black people are of Niger-Congo heritage in the main. They are not Nubians (ancient Nubians being West Eurasian : Nilotic (60:40) by most recent genetic appraisals). 2001:8003:70F5:2400:B92F:BCC7:8F5E:3781 (talk) 19:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Interesting perspective Jonathan, but it is only valid for inclusion if you want to perpetuate absurdity: North American black people are of Niger-Congo heritage in the main. They are not Nubians (ancient Nubians being West Eurasian : Nilotic (60:40) by most recent genetic appraisals). This would be quite literally cultural appropriation. It would be akin to you referring to yourself as a Cimmerian. 144.134.99.146 (talk) 19:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Why? 'African'/Black American culture cares not for Historical accuracy and is in a constant state of appropriating other people's cultures. The claims of Black Americans (who historically, source primarily from Niger-Congo peoples) on Ancient Egyptian, Greek, North African, South American, Ethiopian, Somali, Waswahili, Nilotic/Nubian, ... is way past the point of absurdity! History does not have to reflect the fashion sense of Black Americans. 2001:8003:70F5:2400:B92F:BCC7:8F5E:3781 (talk) 18:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Nubian Princess - use in North American Black Vernacular Language

message: The following discussion is taken from my talk page regarding the lead sentence --SnakeEyeJazz 16:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Lead sentence 

message: On most articles for ethnic groups, in brackets after the name is first stated the endonyms and other common exonyms are given. Does anyone know what Nubians are called in Arabic or in the Nubian languages? The Arabic-language wikipedia appears not to have a page on Nubians, so that doesn't help.Static Sleepstorm (talk) 09:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked at the wordreference forums (http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=787781) and apparently "Nubian" in Arabic is نوبي (nuubi). I shall add this to the page. - Static Sleepstorm (talk) 23:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At least in Nubiin the Nubian name is Nobiin. -LlywelynII (talk) 14:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endonym(s) 

message: Where do Nubians live today?  Around the whole globe?  Which are the top ten cities, and how many Nubians in each?  Which are the top five countries, and how many Nubians in each? -96.237.2.78 (talk) 12:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They've been around a -long- time. But as the article says, self-identified, Nubian-speaking Nubians mostly live along the upper Nile. -LlywelynII (talk) 14:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where do Nubians live? 

message: Why does the opening sentence say "Nubian Pharaohs" when the title of the article is "Nubian people"? Tweisbach (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: An IP revised the articl recently, removing some sources, etc & made that change. I've reverted to an earlier version. Thanks for spotting this - it happened once before. Dougweller (talk) 13:01, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nubians Pharaohs 

message: Why is there no mention of Libya? I am sure the Numbians compose about 1% of Libya's population and that country borders Egypt. This information came up frequently during the Libyan crisis in 2011 depending which source you were watching and reading. Nubian is definitely one of Libya's languages. The Big Hoof! (talk) 04:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homeland 

message: They are mixture of Arabs and Negrids of Africa. So, should we add this template-mulatto- to the article? Lamedumal (talk) 09:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, there is no "Template:Mulatto" (fortunately). Secondly, Arabs are not white, and the term "mulatto" denotes an individual of mixed white and black ancestry. TomUSA 05:44, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mulatto 

message: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/01/140131-egypt-nubia-dams-nile-constitution-culture/
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3750.htm
http://www.memri.org/clip_transcript/en/3750.htm
https://books.google.com/books?id=fWNpIGNFz0IC&pg=PA943#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=iKHOeLDvUVgC&pg=PA338#v=onepage&q&f=false
20:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Editors shouldn't add text to other editors' posts, but as for MEMRI - see Middle East Media Research Institute. Not a reliable source. Doug Weller (talk) 09:51, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source 

message: Where I get population of Nubians by Governorates of Egypet? what Governorates have high share of Nubians?--Kaiyr (talk) 14:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic Nubians population by Governorates 

message: I don't see Renato Kizito Sesana as a reliable source given his lack of qualifications, nor its publisher. If the information is accurate surely an academic source can be found. Doug Weller talk 09:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of I am a Nuba as a source 

message: In Nubians actually migrated off Phoenicia =EastTurkey, Syria Jourdania Israel, 
then migrated to Sudan etc,    Would it be possible  Nubians were   DAnubians?? 
Iff Khurds are Turkish  Iranian  up to Northern India,   could it be that they also related to Danubians? Wikistallion (talk) 16:52, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sprachkunde 

message: Imagehexahedron.hu › m_ivanyi › introdu
BRIDGES ON THE DANUBE
Early in the 8th to 7th century B. C. Phoenicians, Egyptians, and Greeks penetrated the Danube estuary, entering into trade contacts with
confirming phoenicians were there on Danube. Now when was Danube named Danube? which names did this river have over centuries in all languages?  jiddish. Old Greek. slavic. or else Wikistallion (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  phoenicians  and danube 

message: I don't wanna be racially obsessed, but in the Genetics section, the writer doesn't clarify that the 66 individuals tested were from an unknown society that had high levels of west eurasian ancestry compared to the contemporary nubian, it also make it seems as af nubians had an increase of Sub-Saharan dna since ancient times. "Regarding modern Nubians, despite their superficial resemblance to the Kulubnarti Nubians on the PCA, they were not found to be descended from Kulubnarti Nubians without additional later admixtures." the only time the Genetics section mentiones ancient nubians and their relation to modern nubians is in this? Aside from the fact that it ignores many other studies on the nubian populations and chooses specific studies to deliver biased information. I have noticed at least one false information on almost evey single time the nubians were mentioned, this is usually the first place people come to to learn about uknown ethnic groups with limited info on the internet, you should do better. Uhntimsl (talk) 12:40, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading information  

message: The 30m in Sudan figure in the infobox is very misleading. I will not dispute the origins claim, but the topic of this article is the modern day ethnic group, not ancestral origins. In the same way that the figures for Assyrian people don't include Arabized Syrians, figures for Berbers don't include Arabized North Africans, figures for Copts don't include Muslim Egyptians, etc. The modern-day ethnic group described by this article is not descriptive of Sudanese Arabs of Nubian origins. High surv (talk) 14:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The population figure in the infobox is misleading 

message: Hello
I have edited the section referring to the "Noba nomads" as there is no archaeological or linguistic evidence of the Noba being speakers of a Nubian language , much less the group that introduced the Nubian languages to the Nile valley (we do not know which language that group spoke, if there was such a group in the first place). The passage that refers to the "Noba nomads " shows no citation for sources
As far as archaeology is concerned , Nubian languages have been spoken in the Nile valley since Kerma and even before that period. Kryako (talk) 08:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section referring to "Noba" nomads