Talk:Bat for Lashes

message: Not too sure what the benchmark for notablity is here. Quite obviously they are fairly well known and signed to a record label, etc. What references do you require?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Makrugaik (talk • contribs) 15:26, 20 October 2006  (UTC)
:Quite obviously they are fairly well known. Why is this obvious? To somebody with knowledge of the modern pop-scene perhaps, but not to the general public. What makes this group more notable than any other student band? (I assume that Bat For Lashes is a band, though this is not clear from the article. It just says a creation).
:See WP:BAND for the criteria required to decide whether a band is notable or not. These are guidelines rather than firm rules, but in general consider the following questions:
*Has the band had a hit single?
*Has the band been on a ntaional or international tour?
*Have any of the band members been in any other notable bands?
*Has the band been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media?
:If the answer to any of these is yes, then the nand is notable. However, you will need to put some citations (e.g. links to other websites, references to books, journals etc) in the article which prove this. — Tivedshambo (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bat For Lashes is on the current Xfm playlist, this is another indication of notability; I think however we may require more. Y control 08:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bat for Lashes is not a "Student Band"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.93.246 (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: Bat For Lashes has done a national tour I believe, dates are present here: http://www.batforlashes.co.uk/live.html
As for featuring in the media, The Sunday Times, Observer and NME have all reviewed the album, other publications have alos featured live reviews and other features. They can be found here: http://www.batforlashes.co.uk/review.html#
The fact that they have a published album by a reputable company (Chrysalis Music Ltd) is notable in itself. Chrysalis Music Ltd have published albums by Outcast, Thom Yorke, and the Black Keys.
Full roster here: http://www.uk.chrysalismusic.co.uk/core/roster.cfm
Bat For Lashes are signed to the Echo reord label, which also features artists such as Feeder, Morcheeba, Ray Lamontagne and Moloko.
Sorry if anything's wrong. First time I've used this new fangled encyclopedia.
Mattkelsall 16:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: Jimthing made this edit recently "Despite being the favourite to win --and after performing the song "Horse and I" at the ceremony held at London's Grosvenor House on Tuesday 4 September 2007-- when the winner was announced by Jools Holland at 10:15pm she lost out to rank outsiders Klaxons". This paragraph has changed a lot since, but the issue is the inclusion of 10:15
Jim things proposal reads
"Tuesday 4 September 2007— when at 10:15pm the winner was announced by presenter Jools Holland, Bat for Lashes lost out to the bookies rank outsiders Klaxons."
I feel the specific time has no relevance to the content and is merely a stylistic embellishment - fine for a magazine article, but not an enclyclopedia. It also gives the text a quality of dramatising the events rather than having a neutral tone. 18:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be this edit. (There was another round of reversions before this.) My basic reaction is So what?  Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, well, some (many) people seem to think Wikipedia is a chronicle and not an encyclopedia :( --kingboyk (talk) 13:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 10:15

message: It seems to me that Natasha Khan is very much the prime mover in Bat for Lashes.  As such, I believe that she should have her own Wikipedia entry / page and that all of her biographical information should be moved to that page.  
With this end in view I have tried to create a page for Natasha Khan.  However, I do not seem to be able to do this.  It seems as if Wikipedia "thinks" a page already exists.  As far as I can see it does not exist.  There is a Web Page at web address: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Khan 
However, if one goes to that Web Address one sees a Web Page, not for Natasha Khan, but for Bat for Lashes.  It is an exact copy of the page at Web Address:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_for_Lashes
What has gone wrong here?
Richard Gillard (talk) 10:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's happening there is that the page for Natasha Khan redirects to the article about Bat for Lashes. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 08:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natasha Khan 

message: Why "Bat for Lashes"? The article doesn't say. Eyelashes? Thirty lashes? Bat as in cricket bat, or vampire bat, or batting? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 08:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "This odd collection of words, chosen simply because they sounded unusual together"  Average Earthman (talk) 16:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: It reads a little oddly to have a "current members" info entry for what's titularly about a single person.  Perhaps we should have a separate infobox for The Blue Dreams, until such time as they're split out into a separate page?  Alai (talk) 14:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Current_members" field? 

message: The second half of the background section needs to be rewritten or deleted.  It is basically a list of different TV appearances and other trivia items.
Also, isn't the Mecury Prize section redundant since there is hardly any information under it and there is a Awards and Nominations section later in the article that clearly has the Mecury Prize nominations listed under it?  71.210.172.22 (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background and Mercury Prize sections 

message: As per the above comment the background section starts off fairly well but then disintregrates into a random collection of trivia. I'm going to create an Early Life, Fur & Gold and Two Suns section. Lead needs expansion as well and more info is needed on her second album, and her first really. In particular album reviews are always good. Eventually the creation of a musical style/influences section would be good and getting some more pictures is desirable. Will have to go on the hunt for some references to make this article more substantial.
I'm going to go ahead with these changes and any help/contributions is appreciated.
Thanks, --RavensFists (talk) 00:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  At this point have written up the lead, though it still needs to be improved more, also have written up and referenced the Two Suns section. Will move on to Fur & Gold soon and the musical influences section after. --RavensFists (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also in the meantime have found this really long, and I mean massive interview with Bat For Lashes, have read some of it but it seems to contain info on Fur & Gold (Which I shall add), and Two Suns that could be added, as well lots of info on her influences. If anyones up for reading it, by all means please add the new info. Also could be used to reference large parts of this article. --RavensFists (talk) 13:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going to make some changes 

message: Hm, she began writing material for her debut album twice, at different periods. The Early life section states that "[i]t was during her time at university that she began writing material for her debut album..." while the following Fur and Gold section states that "[s]he went on to work as a nursery school teacher, and it was during this period that she began writing the material for her first album." Both can't be true, obviously, so during which period was it? JM.Beaubourg (talk) 15:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The former excerpt has a citation, which says only "Khan wrote songs while at university, but it was not until 2004 that she started Bat for Lashes", which is inconclusive.  The latter has no citation, but its sources are easily found, and credible enough.  It is conceivable that some songs (or even mere parts of songs) were written at one point, and others at another, and that people do not always feel on trial when being interviewed and therefore do not always make an effort to make what they're saying absolutely align correctly with what they may have said in the past, but for now I think we can scrap the former claim. ¦ Reisio (talk) 21:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "...writing material for her debut album..." 

message: A number of new images have become available at :Commons:Category:Bat for Lashes. Perhaps some of them are suitable for inclusion in the article. Cheers, Quibik (talk) 20:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New images available 

message: This article reads like promotional material and largely covers the Bat For Lashes publicity program over time. I'm surprised the phrase "the likes of [So And So]" isn't in it. The music itself is only touched upon here and there. Seems as if it's only (shock, horror) incidental? Ugly. It makes me want to look elsewhere for information. Non-promotional-fluff is becoming rare everywhere, not just Wikipedia.—An Sealgair (talk) 11:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The publicity machine 

message: Sorry, I'm a "little" new to editing wikipedia articles, but was wondering about the description used for her childhood and the reason of her seeking out the piano as an outlet. Where did her father go? Her uncle stayed around? As I read it, the article provides little background on her father and uncle other than she traveled as a child. This article is about Bat for Lashes, not Natasha Khan. It's interesting enough someone would try to write about her childhood, but to write it poorly is pitiful.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ByLifeCamera (talk • contribs) 09:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abandonment by her father 

message: The fellows at "mount eden" have created a dubstep song and a modest video based on the song Daniel. It has over 3 million views on youtube and who knows how many downloads. The link is here and i think it deserves mentioning.79.112.122.105 (talk) 22:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  well known dubstep remix  

message: Some people on the Internet, and others, claim Lily Allen is in this band or group or whatever it is. Y'all do the research and find out for yourselves. I could care less. Apple8800 (talk) 13:41, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Then why bother posting? Srobak (talk) 14:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lily Allen has nothing to do with Bat for Lashes. Popcornduff (talk) 11:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Typed into Google Lily Allen Bat for Lashes, and plenty comes up about how the two women look alike. No need to be arrogant or rude about Apple8800's comment. 68.229.40.204 (talk) 07:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lily Allen? 

message: Is the 2009 line-up still correct for the 2012 tour ? If not, can someone list the current musicians performing on tour ? RGCorris (talk) 11:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've removed the lineup. It's no longer correct, but more importantly, IMO, it's not really notable or relevant. They're not members of Bat for Lashes - it's a solo act. Why devote so much space on the page to them? Popcornduff (talk) 11:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touring Line-Up 

message: Hi , why did you switch the website link to the Wikidata link in the infobox? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 01:43, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to make future updates easier: if the website link changes, we can update in one place in Wikidata instead of in each language's Wikipedia. In general it's good to fill infoboxes automatically because Wikidata provides translations into different languages. Wire723 (talk) 08:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds good, thanks for explaining :) Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox website