Talk:Morris Marina

message: I understand the Hyundai Pony is actually based on the P82 model, intended to replace the Marina but never made, which had McPherson struts and boxed in sections for the rear struts rather than the spine frame.101.178.163.92 (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyundai Pony 

message: My father was a Visiting Professor in England from 1977-1978; we thought we knew how bad automotive junk could be since GM was near its nadir -- until we got to know the Morris Marina.  Aside from the many other negative attributes listed in the article, its awful manual transmission and underpowered engine meant it literally could not get up steep hills with all five of us on board, so many times everybody but the driver had to get out and walk up the hill.  Once a colleague borrowed the car for a short errand, and when he returned he told my father that was the worst gearshift he had ever used.  I've not had the pleasure of driving a Yugo, so I dunno which was worse -- I do recall I was in grad school at Duke when Hurricane Hugo came through NC, and the Car Talk guys on NPR joked about "driving through Hugo in a Yugo" as the ultimate automotive hell.
71.235.75.86 (talk) 04:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: I don't like Marinas

message: I added in the post-demise section information about the test (and destruction) of Marinas in the 12th Series of the show Top Gear.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.87.25.19 (talk) 19:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont really think this should be right at the top, if your going to do it at least make it longer then 1 and a bit lines.82.7.21.40 (talk) 20:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

text: It doesn't add anything to the article so I have removed it. Malcolma (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Gear and the Morris Marina 

message: "It meant that the Marina (a car intended to be basic and conventional) cost more to develop than the Austin Allegro, its technically and aesthetically advanced stablemate."
The Marina was developed _before_ the Allegro, so some of the design of new production processes and parts were used in the Allegro.
The Marina is NOT a Morris Minor.  It has a completely new body (that is fully spot welded, not using subframes like all previous BMC cars), made on a completely new assembly line with new machines and production processes.  Even the way the workers were paid changed ; changing from piece rates to hourly rates (this was the main reason there were so many strikes at Cowley).
The only similarity is the front suspension, which is not, however, interchangeable.
I really think the Top Gear references are superflous and have no place in an encylopaedia.203.26.122.12 (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development 

message: Base version UK market Marinas featured drum brakes, with front disc brakes available as an optional extra.[11] This kept costs down, but by 1971 it was one of several mechanical features which made the car appear dated when compared with competitor products from Ford who dominated the Marina's market sector.
The gearbox was a four speed manual unit with synchromesh on all gears except reverse and was derived from the Triumph Toledo unit, controlled by a floor mounted lever. 
The Ford Cortina and Ford Escort had three speed gearboxes (with no syncromesh between first and second) and drum brakes all around on the base model.
They also had rear leaf springs, just like the Marina.
The 'dated' comments were related to other BL cars, not those offered by Ford or Vauxhall.
I'm not sure that this biased section adds anything to an already overly long article.789 underscore (talk) 06:18, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ford Fan ; non-neutral POV 

message: "The car was launched just as its competitors Vauxhall's Viva, Ford's Escort, and Hillman's (Rootes Group) Avenger were also launched into the hotly contested family car market."
They are all small cars, the BL offering was the Allegro.
The competitors to the Marina were the Ford Cortina, Vauxhall Victor and Hillman Hunter.  Of those three, only the Cortina was a truly new design in the early 1970s.
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thread_title:  Competitors 

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message: "The company's products aimed at the mass-market consisted of the Morris Minor, dating from 1948, and the 'Farina' range of mid-sized Austin and Morris saloons that were a decade old. "
This is when the BL merger occurred in 1968.
What about the Mini,  the 1100/1300  and the 1800 "land crab" ??  They were all in production in 1968  and were new models than the original Minor  and the c.1959 "Farina" models.Lathamibird (talk) 08:45, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is a ridiculous assertion. Both the Minor and the Oxfords/Cambridges had a rapidly diminishing share of the market by the late 60s and were perceived as very old fashioned. The 1100/1300 was the UK's most popular car in the 60s and was quite technically advanced - basically, a big Mini. The Marina was deliberately under engineered because the new BL management thought that was what fleet buyers wanted. This was one of a number of idiotic management decisions taken in the decade after the merger. --Ef80 (talk) 16:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  dubious assertion