Talk:Javier Solana/Archive 3

message: I've looked at the "666" edits on this article and it appears to me that, for some editors, there is a clear intent to vandalize the Solana entry and the user pages of those who get in their way , ,,,,,,,,.  I will indefinitely block those involved in all such vandalism.  In view of this extended campaign of coordinated vandalism I will issue no further warnings and heed no appeals. The users blocked are:
* 68.62.169.14 (talk · contributions)
* 66.0.239.178 (talk · contributions)
* 65.4.6.98 (talk · contributions)
* 65.4.16.211 (talk · contributions)
* 65.4.16.57 (talk · contributions)
* 68.159.142.227 (talk · contributions)
* 68.159.157.232 (talk · contributions)
--Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:35, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Ok guys here is the deal. You have been battling over edits for forever now. You want your version to be the article, well its not going to happen as one of you will revert the others. I believe you both want to contribute. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Time out

message: While you are not obligated to follow below items I highly recomend you do.  --Cool Cat My Talk 10:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Methodology

message: Although this may sound stupid or useless, common ground is first step in diplomacy. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Establish what you agree on

message: I say tomata you say tomato. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discuss parts SLOWLY one by one

message: This is where we do spell checks grammer checks, rephrasing sentences and all other good stuff. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Final clean up

message: We are working on a solution to the current edit war surrounding all three of the articles.  This is entirely a misunderstanding between all parties involved, and instead of looking at ALL the diffs, some folks are only looking at one or two.  Let me reassure everyone that this is a total misunderstanding, and for that reason, I request that the edit warriors within this article and Javier Solana Antichrist allegations take a time out and wait for a resolution.  Thanks. KC9CQJ 09:33, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working to a Solution 

message: *Do not discuss the conduct of other wikipedia users, while that may be true/false, it does not help us improve the article. 
*Present your cases in a clear form, not cryptic. Use bullets. Cite reputable sources. Actual webpages rather than personal pages so we all know what is in your head.
*I am not here to prove this case one way or another. I am indiferent regarding topic. I can help only if you allow me to. --Cool Cat My Talk 10:02, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: PLEASE

message: Someone has been tampering with my comments, changing 10 to 10 members. I haven't the time to cjheck who. However small and well intentioned these may have been, please leave what I have written intact, typos et al, --SqueakBox 23:02, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
:I say dont worry too much about the article, we can discuss it and once we reach a concensius we can keep the article on the version we agree upon, of course the aarticle will be developed but any "tampering" or pov after the discussion will not be in the article, please just for now ignore outside interference. It is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE to edit each others comments, even if your intentions are good. --Cool Cat My Talk 12:15, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tampering of talk page

message: # Initial assessment.  Complete... 
# Assessment 
# Neutralisation
# Edit
# Feedback -- if good go to step 6, otherwise, to step 2
# Final clean up
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During all discussion a civil tone should be maintained.  The Wikipedia:No personal attacks policy should be respected, with no insults or accusations.  I will not be making any edits to the article on my own aside from spelling and grammar.  We will start this from scratch, meaning all past hostilities will be forgotten.  Please provide your arguments in bullet format and sign each. In order not to get involved in a "revert war", allow me to make the changes based on what we agree here.  I will stay neutral in the article itself.
* <-- Bullet.
Please, refrain from "you are wrong, we are right"-type arguments: use a more productive "I see your point, but this is what I think, how about rephrasing it as...".  Insisting on a single, unaltered version does not help.
Please say what, in your opinion, is POV or what isn't factual in the article in the format below:
===Categories===
Argument (italic non indented)
* View Pro Argument (bullet with no indenting)
:* View Against Argument (bullet with one indenting)
::* View neither for nor against (bullet with two indenting)
* Consensus (Bold, italic non indented text)
===Colours===
This is how it appears in the article:
This is a randomly generated string.
This is how I recommend suggesting a change in article:
*This is a randomly generated string. (material to be removed red in color string)
*This is a randomly generated text. (material to be removed green in color string)
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While you are not obligated to use this format, for the sake of clarity I highly recommend it.
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: This talk format has been pushed at pages such as Talk:Nanjing Massacre, Talk:Armenian Genocide, Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and Talk:Greco-Turkish relations, and has been rejected by all participants on those pages. — Davenbelle 18:10, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
Archive generated by KC9CQJ 05:43, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Method 

message: This is how it appears in the article:
This is a randomly generated string.
This is how I recommend suggesting a change in article:
*This is a randomly generated string. (material to be removed red in color string)
*This is a randomly generated text. (material to be removed green in color string)
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While you are not obligated to use this format, for the sake of clarity I highly recommend it.
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: This talk format has been pushed at pages such as Talk:Nanjing Massacre, Talk:Armenian Genocide, Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and Talk:Greco-Turkish relations, and has been rejected by all participants on those pages. — Davenbelle 18:10, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
Archive generated by KC9CQJ 05:43, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Colours