Talk:Derby pie

message: *  This tag is about notability.  It hard to judge if this product is notable with the current reference given.   Better references would help. You could also ask User:FlagSteward who placed the tag for an explanation.
* This tag is about the quality of references.  There are no third-party sources in the references.  Please add such a source before removing this tag.
* This tag is about tone. The article reads like a sales pitch not an encyclopedia.  "Popular additions are butterscotch, caramel, and other types of nuts." sounds like what would be on written on a menu. You could also ask User:FlagSteward who placed the tag for an explanation.
Thanks--BirgitteSB 18:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explaination of tags 

message: Given there's a UK version of a "Derby Pie", there should be a separate article for that.  However, this article cannot be renamed to "American Derby Pie" because that would not be its name.  However, you can disambiguate it like "Derby Pie (U.S.)" or some other disambiguating word in parens. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Best I can figure a "UK derby pie" is some sort of meat pie or pot pie? Hard to tell since when you google derby pie almost every reference is to the subject of this article - a chocolate confection that sounds a whole lot better.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.16 (talk) 12:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. and UK "Derby Pies" 

message: Despite the information presented on this page, I can find no record of the granting of 'Derby Pie' as a Trade mark. The US Patent office shows (http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:pw8g6h.2.2) the mark 'Derby-Pie' (with a hyphen) as being now owned by Alan Rupp of Kentucky. The addition of a hyphen - as in 'Derby-Pie' - is commonly an indication that a trade mark was refused and then re-applied for claiming that the hyphenated version is a different mark. The record of court cases is also typical of dubious claims.
Generally speaking, Trade Marks will not be granted for 'mere descriptions' or for place-names, so I would not expect that 'Derby Pie' would be allowed. Glynhughes (talk) 17:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The link shows that "Derby-Pie" is a live trademark.  The article is named "Derby Pie" because that's what it seems to be commonly called, and I assume that "Derby Pie" would be seen as an obvious variant, legally speaking. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:33, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade Marks? 

message: Indeed, the original Derby Pie (see http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/Derby_Pie.htm ) is of special significance. It is a type of 'Trunk Pie', a pastry casing originally developed as a way of keeping meat fresh. It doesn't always work, and a strain of Salmonella first identified in a Derby Pie is designated 'Derby Pie Salmonella'
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2167419/
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=37RYAAAAYAAJ&q=derby+pie+salmonella&dq=derby+pie+salmonella&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4rrS86YvLAhXHSiYKHX4ND-AQ6AEIKzAD
etc Glynhughes (talk) 17:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, but as discussed above, this is a separate subject and therefore should have its own article.  How this article is named is separate from that.  We can always disambiguate if necessary. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If this pie combines chocolate and pork, then one would think salmonella would be the least of your problems...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.16 (talk) 12:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derby Pie Salmonella