Talk:Miga, Quatchi, Sumi and Mukmuk

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replies: text: Done. - EronTalk 00:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Quatchi.jpg

message: :Image:Sumi.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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replies: text: Done. - EronTalk 18:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sumi.jpg

message: Anyone know if this is legitimate? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7187027/Polish-newspaper-claims-Pedobear-is-2010-Vancouver-Olympic-mascot.html
Could be a spoof, but it looks like they claimed pedobear as a mascot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.145.62 (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to [boingboing http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/06/pedobear-official-ma.html] it is real, that is, it really hit that polish newspaper. Also, a dutch TV guide (Avro bode) displayed the same image, see  IIVQ (talk) 21:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pedobear 

message: I've just removed the following statement:
:"After the unveiling, many people were displeased with the look of the new mascots because they represented a small population of Vancouver."
This was supported by a single reference to a list of comments on a CBC web page here.
I am not sure that a collection of 706 comments on one web page, which included comments ranging from positive ("These mascots are awesome. They're simple and fun. The kids like them") to negative ("What a disappointment!") to odd ("How about Peter Puck, Rusty the Rooster, and Casey?") supports the statement that "many people were displeased." There was certainly some negative public reaction, but it wasn't uniformly so. The negative reaction can be mentioned, but it should probably be better sourced. A quick review of any media sites comment sections - CBC, Globe and Mail, etc. - suggests that negative comments almost always outweigh the positive ones. People with strong negative opinions and axes to grind post more than others. - EronTalk 22:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reaction to the mascots 

message: * http://mbarrick.livejournal.com/897958.html
A statement from Michael R. Barrick on his "Pedobear" artwork. Now, how to use this source? -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 07:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found a source... 

message: I'm not sure that section 1.1, regarding the image confusion, is completely necessary. I think it would be acceptable to edit it out. Consensus? 67.180.128.108 (talk) 20:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Necessary... 

message: 7 years later... it seems whatever picture that was added to the article has since been removed. I've now added an illustration of all four mascots to the article. Under the fair use laws of the United States, where Wikipedia servers are located, we are allowed in specific cases to use copyrighted works without the permission of the copyright holder. I believe this also allows us to ignore the Olympic organization's prohibition against cropped images, as I understand that would only apply to usage of the mascots under the license they specify, not to usage of the mascots under fair use. I also believe this satisfies our own non-free content policy, because no free equivalent could be created that would represent official images of the mascots themselves. Mz7 (talk) 01:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture added 

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message: I have removed this again after @SpinnerLaserzthe2nd restored it. The table is inappropriate for an encyclopedia and contains far more info than what can be found in the one source it cites. JoelleJay (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What can I do instead? Because the Fuwa has a table too. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 20:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That table should be removed too. We don't need those details. JoelleJay (talk) 21:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe I can change the format to make it less ugly looking. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 21:12, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Prose coverage would be best, and it should come almost entirely from secondary independent sources (not from anything affiliated with the Olympics). The Vancouver Sun article is good, but if that's the only source reporting particular details then our coverage in the article shouldn't be more than that. JoelleJay (talk) 21:15, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over-detailed mostly-unsourced table