Talk:Autonomous communities of Spain

message: Why are they "provincias"? We're calling them "autonomous communities", not "comunidades autónomas" or "autonomías"... so what's wrong with "province"? - montrealés — Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 2 October 2002 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing wrong with province, but the use of Spanish v. English words does not seem to be consistent across Wikipedia. -- Miguel — Preceding undated comment added 00:13, 19 August 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish v. English words

message: What are autonomous communities? an explaination would be great. This article could be a lot more than a list: an explaination of what an autonomous community is, what role it plays in the politics of Spain, the history of how they came about ("post-Franco"?) -- the EU might even be relevant (ie. what effect does the EU have on these autonomous communities?). -- Sam — Preceding undated comment added 19:56, 13 November 2002 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition?

message: I think this article would benefit from a cleaner image, perhaps more like the one on the Provinces of Spain page. - dcljr 00:32, 29 July 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: In Catalunya and Galicia, the provinces and capital cities are listed first in the regional language and then in Castillian (eg Lleida Sp. Lérida) whereas in Euskadi and Valencia they are listed first in Castillian and then in the regional language (eg Alicante Val. Alacant). Is there any particular reason for this, as I'm minded to move them all so they're in local language first then Castillian, but didn't want to just wade in in case there was a reason... edd 13:27, 23 August 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: When writing this table, I used, first English names, second the names used by the Spanish statistical authority, whether Spanish or local. - Montréalais 16:41, 25 August 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: In Galicia and Catalonia the provincies and cities have only a official name, it is in the local language (Galician and Catalan) the Spanish name is not official, in Valencia Community and Bascque country, provincies and cities have two official names, in Spanish and local language.----Rocastelo 16:49, 20 March 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of provinces and capital cities 

message: "Other communities have a more limited force or none at all (eg. Policía Autonómica Andaluza)."
The Policía Autonómica Andaluza don't exists, it's only an informal project but its creation it is not in the plans of the National or Autonomic government. The only police forces in Spain except Catalonia, the Basque Country and Navarre are the Cuerpo Nacional de Policía, Guardia Civil and Municipality forces.--Menah the Great 23:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not a fully devolved force, as it was clear from the previous text (it never said it was at the same level of responsibilities as its Basque and Catalan counterparts). Some responsibilities have been passed on but the Policia Autonoma is still an "Unidad Automoma" of the National Police Force. See this. Regards, 00:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed tag 

message: I would just like to point out that the image under the "Political organization of the autonomous communities" section (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Autonomous_communities_of_Spain_no_names.svg) looks completely broken when viewing wikipedia with the Opera Mini browser (iPhone). The flags dont line up the way they should and cover some text.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.90.55.182 (talk) 05:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opera Mini - Image 'broken' 

message: I think "Community" translates better as "Region" in English, "Community" sounds to small and "Region" tends to be used as a whole.Jonnyboy5 (talk) 08:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Comunidad autónoma" is the official name in Spain and the only precise name for this administrative unit. It was agreed on by politicians in the 1970s after long arguments about the issue. Notice that the word "región" is politically loaded in Spain, so including the English word region in the page would unleash an edit war almost for sure. Jotamar (talk) 16:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Community" has a COMPLETELY different meaning in American English - and probably in British English, too - as does the word "commune". I think that the English Language Wikipedia needs to utilize Real English, no matter what the Spanish. If "Community" is the translation from Spanish, it is a mistranslation. In English, an "autonomous community" is a place like Andorra, San Marino, Washington, D.C., Lichtenstein, Monaco, Vatican City, the Australian Capital Territory, the Federal District of Mexico, Hong Kong, the former Free City of Trieste. What they have in common is being small and politically unconnected in some ways.47.215.180.7 (talk) 02:13, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Washington, the Australian Capital Territory, and the Federal District of Mexico are autonomous in not being ruled by any of the "States", such as Maryland, Pennsylvania, New South Wales, Nuevo Leon, or the State of Mexico. Andorra is autonomous in that it is jointly ruled (on an equal basis) by organizations in France and Spain. The principle here is that "to have two masters is to have none", and hence Andorra has run its own affairs for centuries.47.215.180.7 (talk) 02:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

text: Europeans who write in the English Language Wikipedia also need to understand that metropolitan, metropolitan area, and metropolis refer to BIG places like London ("Metropolitan London"), Los Angeles ("Metropolitan Los Angeles"), New York City ("Metropolitan New York"), Atlanta, Birmingham, Boston, Cape Town, Dublin, Dallas-Ft. Worth (the "Metroplex), Edinburgh, Glasgow, Houston, Johannesburg, Manchester, Melbourne, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney, Tampa-St. Petersburg, and Washington, D.C. ("Metropolitan Washington", which also covers parts of Maryland and Virginia.) Also, "metropolitan community" is a contradiction in terms. "Metropolitan" does not refer to villages and towns in Switzerland, France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Greece, Spain, or the Kingdom of the Netherlands, with its outlying islands in the Caribbean Sea.47.215.180.7 (talk) 02:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regions 

message: as far as I know, Segovia legally applied to be a single-province Autonomous Community, but (similar to the Almeria case) this request was overridden on "common good" legal grounds. To be elaborated by someone who is interested (if anybody).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.204.242.206 (talk) 15:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Segovia

message: Does anyone have access to Clavero Arévalo, Manuel (2006) (ref 23) as the isbn has a digit missing, and I cannot track it down using any of my normal routes, and the way the digits have been grouped does not give any extra clues? Bob1960evens (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, in the web site where the full article was accessible, now there is only a summary. I suppose it's not available on line any more. Jotamar (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The isbn is 84-95531-35-6. It was missing the 8. -- dúnadan : let's talk  01:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Clavero Arévalo, Manuel (2006)

message: The link for David Brighty's "State and region: the Spanish experience" is broken; clicking on it leades to 404 error, and accessing it via the Internet Archive is also fruitless since it shows up the same 404 error from Chatham House.  As such, could anyone provide a better link to the article, PDF or not?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.116.62 (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone care to provide a better link for the David Brighty article? 

message: The lede doesn't do a great job of explaining what exactly the autonomy is... It'd would be worth expanding on that  czar ♔ 02:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you give an example of what kind of wording are you thinking of? Thank you. --Jotamar (talk) 16:07, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede 

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message: How come the Canary Islands has two capital cities, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and Santa Cruz de Tenerife, while all other 16 autonomous communities of Spain each have only one capital city? 120.16.170.133 (talk) 05:04, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital of the Canary Islands 

message: Another editor (user:Danielsltt) is changing all the mentions to First-level divisions to Second-level divisions in this page and others. That makes no sense to me, there is no division level above autonomous communities in Spain, other than the whole State. My best guess is that this comes from the existence of NUTS statistical regions of Spain, which in the first level encompass several Spanish autonomous communities. However, the NUTS regions are clearly NOT administrative or political divisions of Spain, they're just statistical areas of the EU. This is also what I understand from the page Administrative division. Since this change involves editing several other pages, I'll wait a couple of days before reverting, and then I'll recover the original First-level text. Jotamar (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jotamar, sorry didn't see this earlier. I attempted to explain the situation in Political divisions of Spain, especially the last section. What do you think? Peter Brew (talk) 23:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  that page contains information not particularly familiar for me, so I guess it's all right. I opened this discussion because I saw what looked like an obvious mistake, and AFAIK it was solved long ago. Best regards, --Jotamar (talk) 19:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  First-level divisions