Talk:3MP

message: 3MP has started stunting as of yesterday, with MTR advertising being broadcast. (Use the 3MP or MTR listen live as a reference.) Wally Otto (talk) 06:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It must have a reliable and verifiable source. It is also up to the person adding or re-adding the content to cite it with sources. Bidgee (talk) 06:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  So the station broadcasting advertising of the changeover doesn't count? I would have thought that is the most important reference of all! Wally Otto (talk) 06:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  An online radio stream is not a reliable source. A news article (online or in a newspaper) is reliable and verifiable (depending on the publisher) but a radio stream really isn't. Bidgee (talk) 06:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Point taken, but as with any other radio station's change of format, 95% of the time you have to go on what the station broadcasts. Look at (for example, WXRK New York) or many other stations. You can't find a reference for it, except for it actually being broadcast. Wally Otto (talk) 06:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

text:  Considering the station is now on air and huge amounts of media sources confirm it, I certainly don't see the need for edit protection. Moreover, how can the station itself broadcasting not be an adequate proof something is true. Not everything that needs to be verified is worthy of coverage in reliable news sources. How does someone get to a point where something that can be independently verified directly needs to be then written up as an article on a newspaper before it is true? That said, a move to 3MP MyMP isn't necessary. At best it may warrant an independent article, but 3MP still exists, just it is now the callsign for MTR, the history of the station on this callsign and of this name isn't correctly placed in an article on a digital offshoot.  GoForMoe (talk) 15:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well it wouldn't have been protected if those who kept adding unsourced content to the article, it is up those who add or readd unsourced content to cite sources. I do agree with not moving the 3MP article to 3MP MyMP, as the history of 3MP should remain here as the callsign is still 3MP but would change if they apply for an FM licence (unlikely). Bidgee (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Considering in the current revision the MTR information is all that is referenced, it's a very big leap to edit protect over unsourced content being added. MTR clearly existed on the 18th, and the online streaming made it verifiable by anyone, even if not by a traditional article. At the very least, the current state is that there is plenty of articles on the MTR move. Or is that ignored until someone finds an article about MyMP? GoForMoe (talk) 05:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 3MP only has one source, other Wiki articles can't be used to reference other articles. MTR doesn't even cite the date it was launched and it only has four reliable and verifiable sources. Bidgee (talk) 05:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

text:  I'll have you know that I was the one that added that source. If we really want to go down the citing path however, what about the whole history of 3MP? Try and find a reference for that, now the website is no longer... Wally Otto (talk) 06:56, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changeover 

message: Move this to MyMP, as it is now known as that on digital radio. Or, create a new article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Strikester (talk • contribs) 04:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As the station is formerly known as 3MP, and is the same as 3MP, there is no point. If that's the case, and it should become MyMP, why does 3AK exist, with it's own article? Leave it as is I say. Wally Otto (talk) 06:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  MOVE TO MyMP