Talk:Viktor Yushchenko

message: Quote "Yushchenko was also tarnished by recent accusations that his 19-year-old son was leading a lifestyle far beyond his apparent means. A Ukrainian Web site reported that Andriy Yushchenko, a student, was driving a high-end BMW, had a luxury $30,000 cell phone and lavished cash on restaurants and other locations around the capital. To the fury of many people in Ukraine, he also registered as trademarks the symbols of the Orange Revolution." 
:Fucking unbelievable! Just wondering, how does a $30,000 cell phone look like? And why would anyone need such a toy? gathima 05:57, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: gentlement, please don't waste the talk page space for the rant. You can resolve those issues at Andriy Yushchenko that has yet to be written. --Irpen 03:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  His son's lifestyle 

message: The word "theory" was used to refer to something other than a scientific or mathematical theory. Although most dictionaries do not call it informal, I find this colloquial use of the word inappropriate for an encyclopedia, therefore I suggest that people try to use more suitable terms, e.g. hypothesis, suggestion, conjecture, speculation, suspicion, or the corresponding verbs for the latter four, depending on the context. Aragorn2 17:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theory vs. hypothesis vs. ... 

message: So any leads on who poisoned him and if they will be punished? It's so sad what happened to his face, yet it doesn't seem to depress him psychologically or his selfesteem that much? He used to be so handsome, and now he's ugly. I'd be so mad if that happened to me.--Sonjaaa 02:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do not accuse me of vandalizing. Your edits have been reverted by other editors because they are unreferenced editorializing like saying "This is a highly dubious, conspiratorial claim, as the plainly visible chloracne on Yushchenko's face obviates any need to falsify evidence of his exposure to chloracnegens, as chloracne is a definitive, sufficient condition to prove such exposure." This isn't the place for you to push your POV. You have made the same kinds of unreferenced POV edits on Mumia Abu-Jamal (and in that case, insisting on calling him "Wesley Cook" instead of Mumia Abu-Jamal showing your bias) as well as Sacco and Vanzetti. You have been warned for this edits so please stop trying to ram your unreferenced POV into articles. Helpsome (talk) 20:51, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: poisoning

message: Guys, this sentence in lead is ambiguous and obviously hinting to anti-Yuschenko POV:
:Ukraine's Central Election Commission declared him the winner of the 26 December 2004 re-run of the runoff election, by 52% to 44% over Viktor Yanukovych. The popular protest movement which brought him to power is today dubbed the "Orange Revolution."
He was ELECTED in 2004, all the rest is details in this lead. If we put these details ahead - we're promoting doubts that Yuschenko is a legitimate President.
I'll fiercely oppose this sentence to stay. Writing this only to fulfill the procedure, being aware of the article's importance.AlexPU 17:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to follow any procedure to correct the obvious error. I missed it for some time but fixed it now, hopefully right. It now needs a go over by a native speaker. --Irpen 17:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

text: This is discussed in detaul at the Ukrainian presidential election, 2004 article. Find the sourced information to complement/change the current mainstream view and then we will discuss it. --Irpen 03:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV-hinting lead 

message: I reverted the change by user:Echad as follows. His statement about an alternative version of changes to VAYu's face (plastic operation) is unsourced. There were indeed various rumors in anti-Yushchenko press. If this is presented at all, it should only be presented as rumors and with a reference not just to one or two paperclip but to a review of such rumors. Further, that his supporters "changed their minds" and vote for the PoR doesn't withstand the obvious numbers test. "Our Ukraine" + BYuT + Socialists got together more votes, actually, than Yushchenko in the 3rd round while PoR actually got LESS than Yanuk in the third term, no evidence of voter's switch.
Claims about "great crisis" are too serious to be unsourced or even sourced to a questionable paper or web-site. If this is so, it must be easy to find a respectable magazine or review that claims there is a "great crisis". There is plenty of info that the country isn't doing too well, but "great crisis" is something drammatic. Sources pls.
Accusations of Ukrainian nationalism are indeed occasionally made, but not by "Russians and Jews" but by the anti-Yushchenko press and people. Cite those, if you want this statement in the article. "Swastika graffitis" are very rare in Ukraine and there is no evidence at all that connects them with Yushchenko. People beaten up in W. UA just for talking in Russian? These stories are older than Yushchenko's presidency. Most of them are not factual. In any case, this belongs to Ukrainian nationalism (another red link) rather than Yushchenko.
"American army units stationed in Crimea" is plain nonsence and doesn't belong to Yushcneko either. There is a Crimean anti-NATO protests of 2006 article for that. 
* I think I covered an entire edit by Echad and explained why I reverted it. Occasionally, I would have tried to integrate whatever is salvageable myself into the article, by searching for references but, IMO, there is too little salveagable here and I have several more urgent things to do. If you edit, please so it properly. --Irpen 03:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversies section

message: Since Yushchenko is not active prayer and visit all Churches without giving any preference to specific one - should Kiev Patriahate be listed instead of neutral Eastern Orthodox Church - religion, not a church. --TAG 06:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: The information in the opening section of the article is wrong - Y. did not win the 2004 election through recount but through revote. Also the numbers (53 to 47%) are inaccurate. Repeating the run-off was the gist of the Supreme Court's decision following the Orange Rev. events. Please correct. (ouital77 21:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Yushchenko's Election

message: Guys, before this gets out of hand (and there likely will be more) as this hit the web, please take a look at the second page of this book available in full for example here. Take a look at the copyright notice at page 2 of part 1. It is clear from the notice that the book is self-published (red flag #1). Also, there seems to be no info anywhere to verify the credentials of its author (red flag #2). Obtaining an ISBN and publishing anything is really simple these days. Please exercise caution with these kinds of sources. --Irpen 10:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Andrei Yushchenko: Personality and “the legend” by Yuri Vilner

message: In the paragraph starting "Many have linked Yushchenko's poisoning to a dinner with a group of senior Ukrainian officials", half a dozen rumoured suspects in the poisoning are listed, but without any sources being given.  Per WP:BLP, I don't believe we can suggest that specific living individuals were involved in such an activity unless highly reliable sources can be cited to corroborate the claim.  Accordingly, I'm going to take out the list of alleged conspirators.  Feel free to put names back in if — but only if — you can include references to good-quality sources.  Richwales (talk) 21:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, all unsourced accusations of crime with regard to living persons should be removed immediately per WP:BLP.Biophys (talk) 21:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Poisoning controversy is well-sourced. Removal is not justified and was not discussed in talk page. --TAG (talk) 10:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As everyone can see from  diffs, Richwales deleted totally unsourced claims. Unless sourced, such claims are blatant violation of WP:BLP.Biophys (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced list of poisoning suspects 

message: Does Presidential Secretariat Head Viktor Baloha speaks on behalf of Viktor Yushchenko when he makes statments like this (the statment was distributed by the presidential press service)? If so should this article say that Viktor Yushchenko wants Yulia Tymoshenko to resign as Prime-Minister? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do with Viktor Baloha's statments? 

message: Does anyone know where I can find approval ratings from the time he took office? I want to make a chart like this one, but I can't find anything earlier than 2007.
:Here is probably the most reliable ratings released by Razumkov Centre. Garik 11 (talk) 06:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the actual approval rating "fully support" only, or both positive answers combined? Counting just "fully support" makes it historically lower than it seems it should be, but counting both makes it way higher than most other sources say. LokiiT (talk) 18:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic approval rating

message: Somebody had Yushchenko edited as 'acting President'. I don't know anything about that, but I do know he was the third President of Ukraine (incumbent or not). Therefore, I've corrected the introduction as best I can. GoodDay (talk) 17:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I agree he might stay it for months... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 08:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 prez election 

message: Since when was Yushchenko a member of People's Democratic Party (Ukraine) before 2001 as the current infobox says? I thought he was unaffiliated when he became Prime Minister. Can't find any info on this. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 00:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I got it from List of Prime Ministers of Ukraine and assumed it was correct. Feel free to remove it. Therequiembellishere (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  People's Democratic Party (Ukraine)??? 

message: What is relevant he beat a Slovak presidential election of 2004 record in low ratings for an incumbent President? — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 23:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Beating a Slovak presidential election of 2004 record in low ratings looks trivial

message: This man is not severely disfigured; this man has pockmarks. "Severely disfigured" implies that he has damage like that caused by third and fourth degree burns, or that he has large growths on his face, or that he's missing his nose. I wouldn't look twice at this man if I ran into him in public. He just looks like he had a bad case of acne as a teenager.--173.49.90.61 (talk) 02:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Severely disfigured?

message: KGB Border Guard ? - Following ukrainian wikipedia, he served with the Soviet Army. Obviously with an unit of the Army's Transcaucasian Military District in Armenian SSR, near Leninakan. --Oenie (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Service 

message: Controversial Dmytro Firtash as called himself a friend of Yushchenko and was accused by Yulia Tymoshenko of financing Yushchenko (see the Firtash article for details + this). I'm not sure if and where that info should be in this article... any suggestions? an earlier instalment of the info was deleted for being "gossipy", but if Yushchenko was financed by this shady figure that would be very telling about Yushchenko... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 04:04, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, at the moment this seems very insubstantial. All we have is this one source that says that Firtash "boasts" of a friendship with Yushchenko (which Yushchenko himself "vehemently denies"). IMO, I don't really think that such claims should be included unless they can be substantiated. Otherwise, what we have is just some industry head making stories of how he is the 'man in charge'. At any rate, I think it inappropriate to include such information alongside Yushchenko's family life unless it can be expressly proven that he and Firtash are indeed very close friends, not just some business acquaintances. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do with [[Dmytro Firtash]] calling him his friend? 

message: User:Invest in knowledge and I were wondering about which PM Yushchenko is in terms of number. Should we count all PMs, that is, both acting and official (making him tenth), or just the official ones (making him seventh)? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 18:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seventh or tenth PM? 

message: 'The presentation of the Dioxin poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko is rife with propaganda promoted by his opposition. It is truly ridiculous to state that the poisoning may have been an attempt to get sympathy votes or may have been feigned.  It is good that he went to Switzerland for care, but even there, there is evidence of bribes and such to hush up the truth. I hope Wiki stays free of Russian propaganda, but this portion of your report is full of it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.50.75 (talk) 12:24, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  dioxin posioning account 

message: It seems like key reasons his popularity plummeted are missing.
:An Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty analysis on that can be found here. Although at the moment I have no idea how to implement those findings into this Wiki article (feel free to do so for me). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: popularity

message: "Volodymyr Satsyuk, because he holds both Russian and Ukrainian citizenship" versus " Kateryna became a Ukrainian citizen on March 2005 and renounced her US citizenship, as required by Ukrainian law". Is it only US citizenship which cannot be held with Ukranian citizenship? 79.97.64.240 (talk) 09:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction?

message: There's nothing in this article about allegations of corruption, although other Ukrainian politicians, most infamously Viktor Yanukovych, are notoriously corrupt. However, the article states "When asked if Yushchenko should be impeached, over 56% of those polled were in favor with almost 27% against". What would be the basis for impeaching Yushenko? 79.97.64.240 (talk) 09:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Corruption?

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message: The article fails to articulate that the poisoning was likely orchestrated by Russia. Why? GhettoInvestigator (talk) 15:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poioned by Russia? 

message: you can find more i think on  ukranews.net website 160.177.235.175 (talk) 10:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its has a impact on what happening now between ukraine and russia