Wikipedia talk:Babel

message: How is babel different from UserBoxes:Language? 62.254.8.124 (talk) 20:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What is UserBoxes:Language? The page doesn't exist. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure they meant Userboxes/Language. To attempt to answer the question, the difference is that userboxes need to use multiple templates (of which many are not serious and/or standardized and/or related to spoken language) whereas the Babel template allows a user to quickly type out the spoken languages which match their criteria of Babel/levels into a single template separated by "|" and the user doesn't have to search for each template individually, but fundamentally they fulfill the same function. Sebrana (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is babel different from UserBoxes:Language? 

message: The Kiowa language, kio, is not supported. Would this be possible to fix? AevumNova (talk) 16:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me. If you mean that the sentence "This user has a native understanding of Kiowa" should be translated, then that's phab:T173700 * Pppery * it has begun... 16:16, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kiowa Language Broken 

message: I'd like to replace this phrase with 'ISO 639-1 code'. Any objection? Pathawi (talk) 05:32, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wikipedia Code" 

message: The general page has the line of 
"xx (no hyphen or number) for native-born speakers who use a language every day and have a thorough grasp of it, including colloquialisms and idioms.
Note: We do not quibble about the "native-born" part; it's the "including colloquialisms and idioms" part that matters here." and yet the levels page does not mention that at all, which feels contradictory. In fact it actually lists basically the opposite, where several examples are mentioned only taking into account moving from X country to Y country, which the general page would say is less important compared to being able to understand cultural references and idioms. I suggest to insert the prior note from the general page under the xx-N section in the levels page to avoid confusion, is anyone against this? Sebrana (talk) 23:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between definition of native in :babel/levels page and :babel (general) page 

message: I speak Pontic Greek (pnt) as a heritage language, so I would probably want to put it on level 2 or 3, but anything except pnt-1 is not supported by the template. What is the procedure to remedy this? Konanen (talk) 12:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: works for me.  * Pppery * it has begun... 14:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

text: That is even weirder, because the pnt-2 tag reads EXACTLY the same as pnt-2, both say Ατός ο χρήστες καλατσέβ ολίγα Ποντιακά, see here: . Also, what is the difference between the two templates  and ? Konanen (talk) 16:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I should have included a translation; both versions read “This user speaks a little bit of Pontic”. Konanen (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  The text displayed by #babel comes from https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Babel-1-n/pnt https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Babel-2-n/pnt. Those two strings are not the same, although I don't speak Greek so can't tell whether they are correct. , which your first use is a wrapper around, has no technical connection to the translatewiki messages but displays a hardcoded local string.  #babel is mw:Extension:Babel.  is a local template which predates the Babel extension and has no technical connection to it. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you kindly for the explanations and help! If I understand the mw:Extension:Babel site correctly, the local  template is obsolete, or obsolescence is the goal for various reasons (“[...] replace the old Babel system [...]”). If that is indeed the case, I wonder if a reference or link to mw:Extension:Babel wouldn’t be prudent, or else why no mention is made of it in the article. Konanen (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replied several times to posts on similar matters, see e.g. Wikipedia talk:Babel/Archive 4. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  What if my language only has level 1?