Talk:Ask Ann Landers

message: 207.99.32.197 added: "( Who's checking these references? Ann Landers spelling checks - Cheques? No way. Community property is a state by state ruling)" to the article text. I deleted it and moved it here, since comments on the article itself belong here on the talk page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.232.145 (talk) 05:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal Advice 

message: What do we know about the first Ann Landers? Was there ever a real person with that name? Who was Ann Landers until 1955? DS 14:00, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering the same thing, as the article implies the same name was used for the column before her. Pimlottc 14:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree. It's Ruth Crowley and there needs to be clarification between the fictional Ann Landers (whose identity it seems Esther Lederer took on during her life), the original 'Ann Landers' (Crowley), and the most currently-remembered Ann Landers (Lederer). Please see my proposal below.--Tyranny Sue (talk) 05:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But to clarify: there was never any columnist whose real name was "Ann Landers".  First there was Crowley, then there was Lederer. Correct / incorrect? DS (talk) 19:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Predecessor?

message: I've heard that an Ann Landers collumn began the scare in which people believed Pigeons exploded when they ate rice (she urged people to throw rose petals instead of rice at weddings).
Does anyone know if this is true? - 88.107.129.200 09:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She certainly circulated the myth, but I highly doubt she originated it (or rather, that one of her correspondents originated it).  Powers T 13:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rice / Pigeon scare 

message: The text states that there are no documented cases of poisoning via trick or treating, this is not entirely true. Ronald O'Bryan murdered his own son by poisoning Halloween candy, making it appear that he had gotten the candy while trick or treating. Documentation includes this notation in an article on the death penalty in Texas, on the Web site of the Houston Chronicle. http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/01/penalty/dpgallery/obryan.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.205.89 (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But then it is true.  By your own admission, the kid was killed by his father, not while trick-or-treating. 24.6.66.193 04:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halloween candy scare 

message: Image should be moved to the more relevant location: Esther "Eppie" Pauline Friedman Lederer
It is confusing and strange using it here because (1) "Ann Landers" was fictional, (2) Lederer was only the second writer to use the pen name, and wasn't the originator of it. Putting this image here shows a strange and unencyclopedic tendency/desire to put Crowley out of the picture (so to speak).--Tyranny Sue (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (I went ahead & did this, after reorganising the article to separate the Lederer years from the rest. Much more 'encyclopedic' now, I think.)--Tyranny Sue (talk) 16:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   Anecdotally, it was always Ms. Lederer's picture that adorned the column throughout my childhood and younger adulthood. (editing from IP to my new username) --Dave Harmon (talk) 04:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image doesn't really apply to Ann Landers, as it is of only one of the 
two
 several writers who used the pen name, and not even the originator 

message: Answers.com is not a reliable source and should be removed as a reference. The content there is taken from other sources as indicated on the site, please cite those instead. Hekerui (talk) 09:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answer.com 

message: They both refer exclusively to Esther Lederer, so more properly belong at the end of her bio article.--Tyranny Sue (talk) 10:33, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose to move current two External Links 

message: Anyone adding images of Eppie Lederer, please do so under the Eppie Lederer section (or in the Eppie Lederer article) to prevent further confusion. Or at the very least please make it clear in the photo's caption that the original name of the person in the photo was Eppie Lederer.--Tyranny Sue (talk) 23:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images (of Lederer) 

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message: The articles I'm finding, where her apology is quoted, really don't support the statement "She issued a formal apology, but refused to comment further." Especially since she first issued a formal apology, and then wrote one that was was (at least to my perspective) very heartfelt and quite detailed on the nuances of the issue. And the reference link on that section appears to be a bad link. 
Is the link below a sufficient replacement? The article does mention both the original apology, and the full text of the more detailed one. I'm not remotely an expert editor here, so I want to make sure I'm not using an unacceptable source. I also think the text should be rewritten, to reflect more specifically what she said, so it doesn't read like, "She said sorry and wouldn't say any more." Which is how I read that sentence. Plus, if we're going to quote what she said in the first place, I think it's worth quoting what she said in response to the controversy. Perhaps something like:  
She initially issued a formal statement, apologizing for the use of a racial slur. A week later, a more detailed apology was published, stating, "My remark about the Holy Father was totally uncalled for. I regret what I said and am deeply sorry for the hurt and offense I caused." and, "I don't agree with him on some issues involving women in the church, but so what? That does not change my admiration and respect for him. It only means we disagree."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-12-10/news/9512100449_1_syndicated-advice-columnist-apology-polish-origin
CleverTitania (talk) 03:20, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies: Pope John Paul II and Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. 

message: There ought to be some way to work a mention of the infamous over/under debate into this article, despite that it has its own article.   A casual web search turned up two of her own articles online (1989 1992) and a hotel-industry blogger, among many others discussing the matter. --Dave Harmon (talk) 05:35, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies:  Toilet paper rolls