Talk:Letterkenny

message: I have removed this section (once again) for the following reasons:
1. It contains POV statements such as: "many attacks have been caused by the travelling community" and "Letterkenny, like all other large Irish cities and towns, has a high rate of violence. Most of this violence takes place on the town’s main street, in the early hours of the morning, and is caused by drunken revellers"
2. The refernece link [6] does not relate to Letterkenny but, rather, to Northern Ireland
3. The other references detail particular crime waves or isolated incidences from 2005 and 2006, which do not prove that crime in Letterkenny is any worse or better than in any other town in Ireland.
Even the Dublin article does not have a Crime Section! Ciaranc 09:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime Section Removal

message: anyone got a new topic
i edited the library and arts centre because i thought there wasn't enough information on it.--The Big Brain 18:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop copying stuff directly off the internet. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 13:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New topic

message: I have to say, as a graduate in History from Queen's myself, that the article on the Etymology of Letterkenny is atrociously written!! It is very confusing and, in parts, wildly inaccurate. It badly needs to be revised by someone with a proper knowledge of this subject. The article gives the impression (as of late October 2011) that the O'Cannon Clan were the dominant Gaelic clan in Tír Chonaill, instead of the Mac Lochlainn Clan and, from around the thirteenth century onwards, the famous O'Donnell Clan. Again, this is completely wrong. I would appeal to the 'general editor' of this Wikipedia site to review the Etymology section. Try and get someone with a proper academic background in this subject to write this section.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.77.15.150 (talk) 21:08, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: If anyone has images of any of the topics talked about in the Letterkenny article they would be welcomed.--The Big Brain 17:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed they would. Copyrighted images, however, would not be welcomed. Do you live in or close to Letterkenny? Grab that digital camera and go, go! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 23:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Letterkenny Images

message: Sorry, but some of these really need to go. The trouble with some of them is that they are not actually in Letterkenny! Glenveagh Castle in particular requires a violent stetch of the imagination to be included in this article and certainly does not belong. The museum is the only one that certainly does. It is only a matter of time at this rate until somebody includes the pyramids or the Eiffel tower. Pathlessdesert 15:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I won't mourn them. AWAY! Feel free to clean up the rest of the article too :) Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 15:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually I wrote the parts about the theatre, using information supplied by our dear crazy kid User:Together&forever. But away with it! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 15:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attractions

message: Sometimes to add to somethi--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bring out the chainsaw! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 18:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up

message: I put the climate in Letterkenny arrticle and fixed other stuff. is that o.k. I think it is.Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 20:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Think About It

message: * I am enjoying watching as this project on my hometown grows. Keep up the good work and if any assistance is needed, give me a shout Ryannus 17:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expand

message: I know Letterkenny's population has grown over the last few years, and it has all the makings of a city, but I wasn't aware that it had actually received the official designation of "City" yet, as it says in the box at the bottom of the page.  Can someone enlighten me?
Haven't had time to do much editing recently but this caught my attention. No, Letterkenny is not a city, it's not even a borough- see List of cities, boroughs and towns in the Republic of Ireland. Will delete this peice of vanity untill someone can fix it.Afn 10:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: City of Letterkenny?

message: Come on guys, there is nothing ancient about Letterkenny. 1843 is the oldest building cited that's only a 164 years old, falls well within the modern age. If you were putting An Grianan or Doe Castle then maybe, but then...there not part of the Modern sprawl that is LK. Brendandh 01:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ancient Architechture?

message: I've removed the Closed railway station thing, as i've put a whole infrastructure system in place for Ireland's (the geogrpahic island) rail system. In it's place, i'll put 2 articles, one for Letterkennyy and one for Letterkenny Junction stations. On the railway station articles tthe Category Category:Disused railway stations in County Donegal will take place of the category i've just removed. aNY queries i'd be happy to discuss.
I'm also looking for people to help start up a WikiProject for Ireland#s railways  Halowithhorns89 (talk) 17:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Railways - - ya de ya de ya de

message: I Disagree..........  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Balloholic (talk • contribs) 19:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Should be merged. And should be merged soon. Merge tag has been on this article for months. Guliolopez (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Final words on this before I merge? Or otherwise just simply remove the tag? Guliolopez (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't seem to be any consensus to merge, so I'm just removing the tag. It's been there long enough. Guliolopez (talk) 18:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: =New Line Court

message: "Despite its size, Letterkenny is not the County Town (administrative centre) of County Donegal." There must be a less argumentative way of making this point? Reads funny. Sarah777 (talk) 11:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Letterkenny isn't a lot of things

message: :Category:Mid-importance Ireland articles??? Letterkenny is the one location Chuck Berry where performed when he came to Ireland!!! That category is absurd!!! Is someone suggesting that Chuck Berry is irrelevant and unimportant? Or even of "mid-importance"? Chuck Berry would not set a toe in somewhere supposedly "mid-important"!!! --86.40.219.41 (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mid importance?

message: The article says there are 37 primary schools in Letterkenny - a remarkable claim for a town with a total population (urban area + environs) of under 20,000. I think this confusion arises because Letterkenny appears in the postal address of the whole north-west of Donegal. This means that a primary school in Burtonport, about 40 miles from Letterkenny IIRC, will still have a Letterkenny postal address. I think it would be a good idea to clear up this confusion. --Mia-etol (talk) 21:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the town - not the postal district, which includes a large proportion of County Donegal.  Nobody who lives in Burtonport, or even Kilmacrenan, considers themselves to be an inhabitant of Letterkenny - the postal district simply reflects the fact that the main sorting office is in Letterkenny. Using such logic all the towns and cities in the Six Counties should be included under Belfast as they are all in the Belfast postal district, i.e have postcodes starting with BT. According to the Letterkenny town guide there are 5 primary schools within the environs of Letterkenny, i.e, the UDC area and the surrounding suburbs and I've corrected the entry to reflect this. --Mia-etol (talk) 06:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Schools in Letterkenny

message: This article has a highly unusual crime section in the sense that such sections are rarely to be found in articles about other towns or, if they are present, significantly smaller, giving just a summary. See for example Dublin, Cork (city), or Sligo. All this despite the fact that this area has one of the lowest crime rates in the Republic. According to the last full Garda Síochána report from 2005, the Northern region has with 16.99 the lowest crime per 1,000 population ratio beside the Western region with a ratio of 16.35. Compare this to the Dublin metropolitan area with a ratio of 39.13 or the Eastern region with 22.72. In the Northern region, County Donegal is below average with a ratio of 15.72 (compare this to Sligo/Leitrim with a ratio of 18.98, to Cork City with a ratio of 26.82 or Dublin North Central that leads the statistics with a ratio of 114.57).
None of these statistics is currently cited within that section. Instead we find random clips of crime incidents which are presented here without a coherent view that puts them into proportion. In its current state, this section looks to me like a violation of NPOV. Because of this inbalanced view this section ought to be removed or significantly revised. --AFBorchert (talk) 10:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Every couple of weeks I've summarised and culled this section (based on the WP:NOTNEWS guidelines). However, several editors (mainly anons) seem to feel the need to quote every newspaper article which happens to mention a Letterkenny "crime" incident. (No matter how non-notable - everything from teenagers drinking behind disused buildings, to scrapping on a Friday night). Frankly I think the whole crime section is (as you note) a disjointed collection of incidents, that don't paint a representative picture. It should either be updated to reflect the stats you quote - and in doing so provide some balance. Or it should just be removed entirely. Guliolopez (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime section

message: Why the obsession with listing a small town florists - and with the web link it does look spammy. noq (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus it fails WP:NOTABILITY on several counts - no significant coverage in sources were given, the only source wasn't secondary and the source given wasn't independent of the subject.Autarch (talk) 12:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Florists

message: Does the intro chapter really need two out of its three paragraphs dedicated to the fact Letterkenny has performed respectably in the Tidy Towns competitions? Seems a bit excessive  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.189.31 (talk) 18:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Tidy Towns

message: How was no reference to the country made? The island and province were both mentioned , but unlike MOS for places no country. I have corrected this "error" , which I hope wont happen again.Murry1975 (talk) 11:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Its in Ireland

message: Data from last year's census is now available on the CSO website, the 2006 census is heavily referenced in the Demographics section which should be updated  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.184.211 (talk) 02:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Census 2011

message: With the greatest respect, but L'kenny is NOT the largest urban centre in the north-west of Ireland! That status is held by Derry, followed by Omagh. Letterkenny comes in here in third place, just behind Omagh. Laggan Boy (talk) 20:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As has been pointed out - repeatedly - they are in different countries - albeit on the same Island. Unless that situation changes the wording you added was wrong. noq (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Largest urban centre in the north-west'?

message: Magee College (part of the University of Ulster) is the 'premier' third-level institution in the north-west of Ireland, it being a university, NOT Letterkenny Institute of Technology (L.Y.I.T.). I have edited the article accordingly. Laggan Boy (talk) 23:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Premier Institution of Further and Higher Education in the North-West

message: Sorry but there's no possible way the town is going to have 50,000 people by 2020, it'd require a growth rate of 250% in less than 8 years! The link given for the source shows up a 404 error as well so I see no reason it should be included in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.161.24 (talk) 23:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 50,000 inhabitants by 2020

message: Errigal College, formerly known as Letterkenny Vocational School, was founded in 1914. It was Letterkenny's first secondary school open to both sexes and all religions.
Mr Hugo J. Dorrian M.A.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.42.223.10 (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education in Letterkenny 

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message: This was the first talk page topic back in 2007. Now the section is back and growing. My feeling is that the section, although well sourced, is almost entirely inappropriate and unencyclopedic. Specifically:
*In the first two paragraphs crime is falling then rising
*Numerous references for Main Street crimes, but this could really be any Main/High Street just about anywhere
*Brothel section: humorous, but has no place in an encyclopedia
What the 2007 topic stated above applies equally now, 10 years on! Wondering what others think. Thanks Declangi (talk) 05:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now removed this section. Additionally, some of its citations were dead per the InternetArchiveBot review of 4 June 2017. Declangi (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The section was recently restored without participating in this discussion. To me it appears to be a compilation of isolated crime reports of the local press, none of them putting this is in a context or in a comparative perspective. The section collects lots of such random details, e.g. “attacked with pitchforks”, “gangs used ninja-type weapons of chains and swords”, “calmed upon the intervention of a local priest” which are synthesized to give the impression of a crime-ridden town. This appears for me to be in violation of WP:OR#Synthesis of published material. For this reason, I would recommend to remove again this section. --AFBorchert (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return of the Crime section 

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message: "while Letterkenny also has ancestral links to the future British kings William V and George VII".
They don't become William V or George VII until they are crowned, and in fact, until then, if I understand it, they would be free to choose other Regnal names. Also, this link is dead. Presumably the ancestry is via Diana, Princess of Wales. I'm not managing to find another source to back that up, either via "Patrick Crawford" or "George Marbury". I propose changing their titles at least and tagging with "better citation needed". Dhalamh (talk) 21:29, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support deleting this material entirely, both the Jane Austen and Diana connections (in the lead as well as in the History and Culture sections). While the referenced Letterkenny History page is archived here, my main objection would be that notability is not inherited, by ancestors or descendants. This  material is borderline trivia/boosterism and certainly not appropriate for the lead section. You're correct that the royal titles are WP:CRYSTALBALL. Declangi (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, so after reading the article, the relationship isn't ancestral either, as it's by marriage. I deleted from the lead and reworded the Diana bit in the body. It sort-of fits in the context of the discussion of the creation of the town. The Jane Austen link is somewhat relevant to how the town is marketed to tourists, but I'm not strongly against removal of either if you feel like it. I like WP:CRYSTALBALL, hadn't come across it before, thanks.Dhalamh (talk) 21:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good now, your changes tie Diana's ancestor in with the town's foundation while not giving undue emphasis in the lead to this or the Jane Austen connection. Having them in the body, with their sources, as now, is fine. Thanks Declangi (talk) 04:27, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to "future British Kings" 

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