Talk:List of Internet phenomena/Archive 5

message: Due to the overwhelming occurances of "rickrolls" including the Family Guy rickroll, I think this deserves a place on the list, if it was on there but I overlooked it, I appologize. PvtDonut 71.112.192.153 04:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RickRoll 

message: Is there anything on the im in ur or im in your cats anywhere? -Ritarri 14:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lolcat covers the phenomenon of humorously-captioned cats. ("Im n ur" is not specifically mentioned in the article) --George100 14:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  im in ur/im in your cats 

message: I believe The >:3 "JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR" and Longcat memes deserve mention on this page, as both are prevalent internationally in many sites and a simple Google search (69k for longcat and 8k for the LION (whih doesn't include the ">:3" moniker) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.199.8.185 (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide reliable sources to attest to their status as Internet phenomena, then they can go on the list.  Chris cheese whine 04:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested additions 

message: 'Meme' is not interchangeable with 'fad'.
I don't really consider these fads as good examples of memes.  Yes technically they are memes, but only moderately successful ones.  EG. A term like "google it" is far far more successful, but obviously wouldn't be suited to this page since you wouldn't call it a fad.  This page actually covers very specific fads that are only successful within small groups (relative to the size of the net).  I suggest renaming to "Biggest Internet Fads" or some other phrase that doesn't use the word 'meme'. I'm not sure how meme terminology got on here in the first place.  Xep 05:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A list of fads would not be suitable for Wikipedia.  Chris cheese whine 03:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well this page should just be deleted then.  Xep 04:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Deletion isn't verifiable by the old media, and I will personally delete any and all deletions. 70.58.114.69 22:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see what that has to do with what I wrote.  I wasn't suggesting deletion because unverifiable content, but because according to Chriscf, a list of fads is not suitable for wikipedia.   This page is obviously a list of fads. Xep 05:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article isn't supposed to be a list of fads.  It is a "List of Internet phenomena", which suggests something which takes the 'Net by storm, to such a degree that someone somewhere has found cause to write about it.  Editors who just insert their favourite 4chan meme are doing it wrong, but there's no need to close the pool just yet.  Did I really just say that?  Chris cheese whine 05:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Fads are a type of meme.  --George100 07:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, but not particularly interesting ones or they'd be mentioned on the meme page. Xep 11:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect use of 'meme' 

message: This is a pretty big internet phenomenon. I think it deserves a spot. There are currently over 500 similar pictures produced in response to the original (which can be found at http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/i-can-has-cheezburger.jpg ). Many of the other pictures can be found at http://icanhascheezburger.com/, a website that was spawned as a result of the phenomenon.
*A funny picture of a cat accompanied by Engrish?  Wow that is so original, never seen that before! JuJube 02:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER? 

message: PORN.
Come on, how could anyone forget this video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.115.4.5 (talk) 19:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only 1% of websites contain porn --h2g2bob (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  He was talking about yet another WoW video on YouTube: The Internet is for PORN!!. I still don't understant what this Wikipedia page is about, but I second the motion to add this video. Maybe what we could instead put an entry on all those World of Warcraft videos. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ruijoel (talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It wasn't originally a wow vid, the audio is from somewhere else.  It’s not very notable anyway.  Xep 21:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's originally from the Broadway puppet show Avenue Q. —  MichaelLinnear 23:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The internet is for... 

message: what happened the original list of meme's in the internet meme page that was forwarded/combined to internet phenomena page?
the current grouping of information on this page is a joke compared to the former list on the internet meme page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brekk (talk • contribs) 06:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original internet meme list? 

message: This should REALLY be added here, but I can't find any media sources mentioning him. Anyone care to help? Bravemuta 12:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peanut Butter Jelly 

message: Why does this redirect here, yet there's no mention of him? Tarc 18:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The redirect doesn't belong without well-sourced coverage here, I've deleted it. --Michael Snow 19:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Crazy german kid]] 

message: This one is certainly notable; it has been mentioned numerous times on atheist websites and it's a well-known religious parallel. Should be worth including.--Orthologist 16:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kissing Hank's Ass 

message: theres like 10 freakin memes now, there used to be like 100. man, come on, put them back, they were awesome. this is wikipedia not crappypedia, add the awesome back.
:Yeah, I recall that as well. It is still in the history, however. --Proficient 12:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true - this really used to be quite a wonderful and informative article.  Now it sucks ass.  Might some brave soul revert it back to how it was a year or so ago?  --AStanhope 12:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never saw the list when it was that long and there's no way I'm going through to weed out the ones taht could be brought back. If they're not notable then they can't stay, unfortunately. The page does, however, link to http://www.ultimatememedatabase.com/ the best source for it which has not only over 100, it has literally a few thousand on there. --lincalinca 12:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *I've recreated an August 2006 copy of the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Internet_phenomena/old so we can look at it and perhaps tune listings there and then copy the good ones over.  This could be done quietly and by people who don't want to spam the list with lame, non-notable things.  The list was far more informative and entertaining before than it is now.  What do you think?  --AStanhope 00:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not against it, but as I said, I really can't be stuffed going through it. I'll give a glance over and if anything there is notable enough, then I'll bump stuff across, but be aware that if anything's not noteworthy, I'll tag it for citation and if citation can't be given within a fortnight, it'll be taken off. BTW: I've changed the title of this discussion too. It's just a bit fierce. --lincalinca 02:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - and agreed.  Thanks.  I was just poking through the old list - there really are a number of great articles on it that have been discarded.  The list is great fun.  Something also to consider: internet phenomena needn't be CURRENT internet phenomena.  "All your base are belong to us" is old news - but it was most certainly a phenom.  --AStanhope 02:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Doesn't that old version contain most of the stuff that caused the shitstorm over WP:BLP in the first place?  Also, as several people have already said, we don't need references in this article which prove something exists (especially if they have their own articles), because this is not a "List of stuff that exists".  This is "List of Internet phenomena", so we need references which allude to their status as widespread phenomena.  81.104.175.145 23:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Anyway, we're not writing articles to be entertaining or informative, they're meant to be neutral and verifiable.  81.104.175.145 23:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: *Sure - the old list contains a number of the bad articles that caused a shitstorm over WP:BLP.  It contains scores of others as well.  No - you are not right to say that "we're not writing articles to be entertaining or informative."  We are certainly writing articles to be informative, and if they happen to be entertaining as well, more power to them.  The best written articles should be both informative and entertaining.  --AStanhope 01:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *We can write articles that way, but this is secondary to the core principles.  WP:V is not negotiable, even when consensus says it is.  81.104.175.145 01:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the list? 

message: The 300 fad was started on Newgrounds, in the topic named "photoshop Leonidas" where the first post contained the original image. As you can imagine a lot were there... I actually considered doing an AoM related one, but needed an image editing program.
There are some on the chan sites too, mention them(such as shoop da woop, which i don't understand)
I can't judge where 300 became a fad originally, as it has been years since I've frequented Newgrounds.  I can say that it has a tremendous, or rather EPIC display on 4chan.  To the point, I remember 300 based lines as "Hey guys, where are we dining tonight?" and "Hello? Hell's Diner? I need reservations for 299!"  Some may call it madness or blasphemy, but I say "This.. Is.. A Meme!"  Also, "Shoop da woop" is the sound made when one is a chargin' their lazers, which is its own meme inside of the chans, but I can't say I've seen it outside of there.  --71.57.243.203 05:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional info 

message: And a few others among it, I would rate Badger high above a few other things on this list (notably the bands) In terms of Internet Phenomena. In addition both Something Awful and 4chan are responsible for a good deal of todays current internet phenomena, or more so play a part. Either way I am curious why Badger Badger is not listed, even with a neutral POV who here can argue you haven't seen it. It is the problem with internet phenomena and an underground or silent movement is there isn't much press.
:Then I'm sure you'll understand whene I say "SOURCES OR GTFO".  ;-)  Sources of  the reliable and independent variety. 81.104.175.145 22:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Badger Badger 

message: Do prank calls on live television constitute "noticable", or is Girltalk's late night figures too "low brow?" Dr. R.KZ 07:51 AM 12th April
: You should add longcat, over 9000, fresh prince and battletoads to the 4chan article. They're pretty much all 4chan original content and not well known outside 4chan's readership - apart from over 9000, which is also known by ytmnd and gue but nobody else on the internet. 62.31.67.29 09:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over 9000/Battletoads/Fresh Prince prank calls on Girltalk 

message: "The American equivalent to 2chan, it has been a large source of internet phenomenon since it's inception in 2003, such as Caturday and the O Rly? owl." That should be "since its inception" without the '.
:The O Rly owls origin is not 4chan based. Rather it is based off of something from Something Awful
While the term came from Something Awful, the image did come from 4chan, where the word "repost" was filtered to "owl," prompting a user to create the macro. (24.16.122.180 23:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  4chan 

message: It was on top 100 Google videos for 8 months! 9 Million views on one of the copies alone. Yes, bit old now.. but it broke my heart when its entry was removed from Wiki. --Flayed 06:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet is for porn 

message: The following diffs to be backed out:
* - some random blog is not a reliable source
* - source article lead makes no mention of this whatsoever
*The O RLY? owl, which after several months is still without a source for its status as a phenomenon.  81.104.175.145 13:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is semiprotected; any username more than a few days old can edit it. There is no need for administrator assistance to edit this page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, carry out the ediuts, then?  81.104.175.145 15:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: Just wondering, is it/would it classify? - Jigsy 19:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  caramelldansen 

message: Madness Combat not only caps ten million views on Newgrounds, but has also spawned many many tributes. While it currently doesn't have any secondary sources, and thus can't have an article, it would be nice to see it mentioned here.
:--Rotaretilbo 05:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Madness Combat 

message: Seriously, I think this meme should be on here.
I agree with that one.  Its power level, I mean, its views on YouTube are over 1.5 million!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI --71.57.243.203 04:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's over nine thousaaaaand! 

message: Especially LUE board.
Cheers.
: Agreed. GTFO and FOAD actually originated on GameFAQs, for one thing, and GameFAQs has been vital in spreading many meme that may have started elsewhere. Social boards like LUE tend to have their own internalized memes, but are also responsible for the growth of many other memes. Steve McLinden 17:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GameFAQs, another notable meme spreader? 

message: Ins't Wikipedia one of the most notable internet phenomena of all?
I lawld. Agreed. --SelfStudyBuddy 21:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ins't Wikipedia one of the most notable internet phenomena of all? 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Internet_phenomena&diff=111292583&oldid=111268243
Thanks to an anonymous' edit, this list has no value. --nlitement [talk] 19:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How's this justified? 

message: "distributed through video sharing sites like YouTube,"
The "Star Wars Kid" appeared on the internet in 2003, and YouTube started in 2006, yet the article is written as if YouTube helped to spread the video when clearly it had already been famous for years.
Clown666 16:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Youtube from Star Wars Kid 

message: This has to make it. He and his video "Impossible is Nothing" spawned an uproar covered by many real media outlets, including the New York Times. A true meme if ever there was one.
:His biographical article was written, then deleted by a zealous editor on notability grounds but with a recommendation that his Internet meme is probably notable even if he personally is not.  Only fitting.  So I'll do that.Wikidemo 21:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aleksey Vayner 

message: The italicized sourced text was blanked yesterday. It is not proper to blank sourced text, so please restore it promptly--thanks!
*"Little Fatty" — Beginning in 2003, a Chinese high school student from Shanghai named Qian Zhijun (钱志君) had his face superimposed onto various other images, creating an Internet fad. In July 2007 it was announced that plans were underway to cast him in a Hollywood film being produced by New Line Cinema.http://www.filmstew.com/showArticle.aspx?ContentID=16121]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/03/content_908628.htm Badagnani 04:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blanking is very bad 

message: Can someone please tell me how this article is relevant to an encyclopedia? 24.224.212.191 18:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That question is subjective, and I don't see any real answer. That is to say, how is any article directly relevant to an encyclopedia? This article serves a purpose by providing a sourced list of Internet meme that have become so popular as to merit inclusion into this article as well as other third-party publications. If you don't feel the article is fit for inclusions, you might want to register your account and place the article up for deletion. the_undertow talk 18:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was already nominated twice for deletion and the decision was made to keep.  Nothing has really changed since then.  "List of" articles are always a little less encyclopedic, particularly ones like this that are far from comprehensive.  Even with the requirement that the phenomenon be notable and sourced, and people vigilantly removing some of pranks and attempts to insert trivia, it's still not a very good list.  But what can you do?  If someone really wanted to take the effort they could clean this up a little, but if you want to spend the effort why not edit the now-parent article I wrote on Internet memes?  That one is just a stub and there's a little disagreement over what an Internet meme really is, but at least that one is trying to be encyclopedic.  Meanwhile this article is interesting to many people, and harmless.  Wikidemo 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance? 

message: Should the David Elsewhere popping and liquid dancing video be mentioned? Valerius Myotis 05:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[David Elsewhere]] 

message: He's also pretty popular, why wont someone add him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.153.6.196 (talk) 
:If you find a good source, you are free to add him. Don't forget to sign your posts. the_undertow talk 18:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angry German Kid 

message: Mentos & Diet Coke eruptions is listed as an Internet phenomenon in it's own Wikipedia article, as well as in a Houston Chronicle article  but is not mentioned here. Dubkiller 09:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentos & Diet Coke 

message: Does the content really reproduce itself in the same way as a virus? I thought people simply sent the content to friends, and so it gets replicated, or more often just a hyperlink gets replicated. I don't know enough meme-theory to be able to rephrase that in a way that makes sense both to a specialist and a layperson. Any suggestions? --Davémon 08:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's redundant. A video meme is usually the result of viral video, which is where the term comes from. However, virii are self-replicating, so there does not seem a real urgency to tag it as such. the_undertow talk 08:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  virally self-replicating content ?= 

message: should be added DragonDance 03:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DragonForce, and Fuck Yeah Seaking 

message: I wonder if something about Crazy Frog should be included here. It originally started as an MP3 of someone impersonating a two stroke engine and spread virally across the internet before being animated, and eventually becoming the Crazy Frog we all know and hate. --Darksun 17:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crazy Frog 

message: I think 300 with Leonidas is quickly becoming an Internet phenomena. I'm seeing a lot of pictures with him in it S:
:Yes, the 300 Photochop is definitely quite a phenomena. However, it would pretty much take confirmation of another source, say CNN, to report it, in order to fit the criteria for inclusion. the_undertow talk 20:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  300 

message: Any agreement on removing youtube and other hit counts from all items on this list, whether or not the count is accurate or sourced?  The problems we're having are:
*Counts are frequently unsourced because people seem to believe all you have to do is say it.  So to verify it you have to go to Youtube, sometimes perform a search, etc.  Youtube counts are a magnet for unsourced info.
* Counts are inaccurate and change rapidly.  Every day the counts increase, but sometimes they decrease as videos are deleted.  Most popular memes get more than one upload.  So the counts rapidly become obsolete.  Even if you could get an accurate up-to-date count it's just not worth it.
*Irrelevant.  The number of views is not determinative of the status on whether something is truly a meme, and says nothing about how pervasive it really is, or why, or how it is significant, etc.  In a full article about the meme the viewership statistics might be useful, but not in a 1-2 sentence overview of the meme.
*Inconsistent.  A few videos have popularity posted, most don't.  When the information is spotty it isn't really much help in letting people know what's going on.
*Wikipedia is not a collection of random facts and statistics.  
*Misunderstood.  People incorrectly believe that posting youtube statistics is a way to establish notability.  Verifiable sources do that.
For all these reasons I think these numbers cause more problems than they solve.  So I plan to delete them in a few days.  Any thoughts, objections, agreement, etc? Wikidemo 02:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing youtube counts 

message: YouTUBE VIDEO should be noted as meme
First. It's a gif.
Second. It's not from youtube. It was another one of those 4chan memes on the internet.
It's not from 4chan, my friend runs a website where people submit original .gifs to be put in a gallery, 4chan tends to claim responsibility for memes that they didn't create.
--209.189.130.17 20:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dramatic Squirrel 

message: Itjustsomerandomguy i feel has become an internet phenomenon. He has already quickly become one of the most subscribed people on Youtube with his Marvel/DC videos of which he has 17. He has also even been recognized by Marvel and been interviewed on their website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.131.249.137 (talk • contribs).
Sign your post and provide some reference links and it might just qualify.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 18:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  itsjustsomerandomguy 

message: ok. im not good with the whole wikipedia editing thing but there is SOOOO much missing from this article such as "you kicked my dog" end of ze world" "you are a pirate" and heaps more.
it would be such a large project to list every one so i think it would be a really good idea if someone could include a list of websites that internet phenonemas have spawned from or gained popularity through (e.g. albinoblacksheep and newsgrounds )
220.233.208.111 11:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MISSING CONTENT! 

message: Would WikiScanner count, it went online on the 14th and within two days, it was on the national news! Henceruns4554 19:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiScanner 

message: When I searched for happy slip, it redirected me to this page.
I expected to find some information here, but there is none.
Is it normal to be redirected somewhere for a search term but
not find it on the destination page?
68.251.43.2 22:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a blurb about Happy Slip here, at one time. However, the article was deleted. the_undertow talk 23:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Happyslip Enjoy!  Ichormosquito 04:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No happy slip? 

message: I just couldn't find enough references to prove it, but Charlie the Unicorn goes to Candy Mountain is a huge sensation amongst kids and even young adults.  When I want to "return the favor" for someone making me watch a different internet meme, i "thank" them by referring them to this video, and usually they say their kid walks in and goes "Oh yeah, Charlie the Unicorn".  I've met several people that can quote most lines and there are even youtube videos of people re-enacting the video themselves line for line.  Annoying video that gets stuck in your head is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sadchild (talk • contribs). 
Oh yeah! We forgot about Charlie!
We need to find some references.
Astro 15:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Nominate Charlie the Unicorn goes to Candy Mountain 

message: Badger Badger Badger seems like it should make this list.
I believe there should be a general category of websites such was eBaumsworld, Albino Black Sheep, ytmnd, Weeblstuff, jibjab, Homestarrunner, newgrounds, etc
:I added it before reading the talk page, and seeing your comment. I too think it should be included but I couldn't find a reference stating its relevance Jlsilva 13:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Badger Badger Badger 

message: http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2007-08-28-miss-south-carolina_N.htm
I think this needs to be added to the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.19.150 (talk) 04:07, August 30, 2007 (UTC) 
 Me too 09:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miss Teen USA 

message: I think "Ask a Ninja" is enought popular to be added here. What do you think about it ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.125.162.172 (talk) 23:17, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
Yep. Askaninja pwns.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.100.127 (talk) 04:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ask a Ninja" videos on youtube 

message: Surely caramelldansen classifies as an internet phenomena. - Jigsy 02:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  caramelldansen 

message: Yo gotta add this to the list .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.224.121.87 (talk) 02:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rick Roll 

message: Hi there, I think that OK Go's first internet video was "A million ways" where they danced in the backyard of one of the member's house... Not sure about it, but I think that "Here it Goes Again" was done later...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.59.78.99 (talk) 10:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OK Go possible correction? 

message: Can some1 explain DESU to me? --87.162.209.63 16:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DESU 

message: This videogame portion of this list is really incomplete without the 50 dkp minus/onxyia does wipe club flash animation from World of Warcraft.
Kelliebellerina 20:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "50 dkp minus" aka "onyxia does wipe club" 

message: There are many internet phenomena with articles.  What are the criteria for choosing some entries over others?  Ichormosquito 09:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How does this list work? 

message: At the top of the article, it says "Revisions and sourced additions are welcome".  Normally, self references should be avoided.  I have placed it in a  template, but is there a good reason to have this? --Phirazo 03:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Revisions and sourced additions are welcome" 

message: Where is Maddox? http://maddox.xmission.com/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kojirodensetsu (talk • contribs) 15:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maddox 

message: What about the "Mr.Pregnant"? He got pretty popular.
the best source i could find was here... 
[<object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NIME1PSGNaI"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NIME1PSGNaI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="353"></embed></object>]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.81.186.19 (talk) 04:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. Pregnant