Talk:Huītzilōpōchtli

message: How about a pronunciation key? I would add one but I have no idea how Huitzilopochtli is said and I'm afraid the spelling is a bastardized American form.
Sultan Yakub
His name can be heard here: http://members.aol.com/emdelcamp/huitz.wav
The "HU" in Nahuatl makes a "w" sound, like in Huehueteotl's name and Huitzilpochtli.
Xuchilbara (talk) 00:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Carlos Castañeda may have been a charlatan, and much of his material worse than misleading about Mesoamerican beliefs and spirituality. Yet one of his most compelling images - that of Death as an advisor, for ever hovering on your left-hand side - strikes me as giving us a clue about the symbolism of Huitzilopochtli, "hummingbird of the left".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnknownSage (talk • contribs) 17:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: How even a charlatan can sometimes provide a clue

message: The article says Huitzilopochtli is the Fifth Sun, but other articles variously state Nanahuatzin and Tonatiuh to be the Fifth Sun. What's with the disparity? 207.216.218.214 (talk) 00:52, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Huitzilopochtli definitely is not the Fifth Sun. --Giggette (talk) 17:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

text: I was looking at [the wiki page for the Five Suns myth], which stated Huitzilopochtli was the 5th Sun. I figured it out, though. Huitzilopochtli's article says "Huitzilopochtli replaced Nanahuatzin, the solar god from the Nahua legend" and Nanahuatzin's article says he is the Fifth Sun in Nahua cosmology, so by taking Nanahuatzin's place, Huitzilopochtli became the fifth sun god to the Aztecs, hence why he "was said to be in a constant struggle with the darkness and required nourishment in the form of sacrifices to ensure the sun would survive the cycle of 52 years". 207.216.218.214 (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fifth Sun? 

message: Could it be Hue-tzil-o-poch-tli (old tzil's young one) instead?
Just granpa (talk) 04:14, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hue-tzil-o-poch-tli? 

message: The (currently) second-to-last paragraph of the History section reads like an angry condemnation of the Spaniard missionaries and conquistadors. While personally I agree with the idea that the justifications for the violence committed by the Spanish were weak at best, words used in this paragraph like "so called" and "supposedly" sound judgmental rather than like a neutral encyclopedia article laying out objective fact. 
TL;DR: This paragraph reads like a forum post not an encyclopedia article.
72.81.132.55 (talk) 23:47, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes this paragraph is extremely unencyclopedic. It should be deleted. Senor Cuete (talk) 23:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subjectivity of "rationalization of conversion" paragraph under History 

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message: As the Aztec empire was finally dismantled by the Spaniards in 1521, faith in its mythology largely died with it as the Spaniards destroyed the majority of shrines and temples and forced conversion to Christianity. 
Most remaining Aztec settlements now follow a religion much closer to monotheism and gods such as huītzilōpōchtli are now essentially thought of as pure myth.
Ancient gods are known to play a role in what we know as modern spirituality and during shamanic meditation practices, “epiphanies” in which people have interacted with hummingbird like deities have occurred. 
Some have claimed to see a hummingbird awaken while sleeping inside a tree hollow, just as huītzilōpōchtli has been described. 
The deity is said to guide us down a path of light, hope and extreme optimism but also of self righteousness, conflict and hatred for those who oppose us, which could be linked to the Aztec god’s rule over the sun and war. Tr1pt4m1n (talk) 04:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Presence