Talk:Legion (demons)

message: I don't have access to a bible at the moment, but I seem to remember that another English  translation of the bible has the demon name itself "Mob" as in "And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Mob: because many devils were entered into him."
Can anyone confirm or deny this, because if it's true it should be added to the article Shinji nishizono 16:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that's from the Message paraphrase; the man says something along the lines of "Mob. I'm a rioting Mob." --3M163//Complete Geek 13:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional Name

message: It seems likely to me that the phrase "My name is Legion, for we are many" simply means "we have many names because there are a lot of us" - rather than "Legion" being a proper noun denoting the name of the man or demon. Is there any indication that Legion is a proper noun in the bible? Guess what he was in Ghost Rider
Shinji nishizono 16:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shinji nishizono is correct: the article is mistaken in maintaining that "Legion are a group of demons". Whoever wrote it didn't have any sense of the language used in the Bible. The whole article needs to be rewritten by a Biblical scholar.88.167.22.75 (talk) 13:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

text: "Legion" is the direct translation of the word λεγεών, from Koine Greek into English.
67.183.205.78 (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Interpretation of the name

message: Gadarenes should be Merged to Legion (demon). The Gadarenes in the gospel aren't notable outside of the story, and the subject of the modern day region is addressed in the article for Gadara. Thence, since the Gadarenes article has no purpose outside of the story of Legion, the information should be merged the (essentially same) information on the Legion page. Reasons for the direction of merge: a) Legion has about 5 times as many articles linking to it, b) it has 2 foreign Wiki articles whereas Gadarenes has none, c) it addresses the parallel story whereas the Gadarenes page doesn't, d) it has more information, references, etc. on it. Also, the Gadarenes aren't the focus of the story, Legion is. 24.126.199.129 09:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: I say that "[t]he demons that composed Legion were aware of the tremendous power of Jesus" is  WP:Weasel and possibly  WP:NPOV.  I really think it can be worded much more clearly, without the implicit support of Christianity. The characterization in this article should be no different from what would be written about a comic book character (for example). If I don't hear back on this one, I'm going to go ahead and change it to something a bit more encyclopedic. Alwarren@ucsd.edu 05:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, to be fair, I have heard almost that exact phrase used in describing Legion's reaction to the C-man's mere presence. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, and since Gadara was a member of the Decapolis, it presumably had a large number of Greek residents who would be happy to eat pork. 65.213.77.129 (talk) 15:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoa whoa whoa, hold on a second. 

message: The area of the Gadarenes is a hot springs area and there are hundreds (maybe thoudsands) of tombs. Many of those tombs are graves.  Gadara is a place of the Decapolis where ancient Necromancers lived among the dead. The "demoniac (s)" was a necromancer (s) that lived on the dead. Necromancers resided there in order to be possessed and to live "eternally."  Possession is what they are seeking, not unlike shamans of today. Like most necromancers they are practicing vampires that eat the flesh and blood of the dead, not unlike the serial killers of the recent times. They believe that by living on human flesh and blood they will have immortality and in this case that is true. Certainly the gospel story has immortalized these demoniac-necromancers forever. Remember the vampire murders of Eustis, Florida: 
Reuters
November 29,1996
By Ron Popeski 
Members of "Vampire Clan" Arrested in Louisiana
BATON ROUGE, La (Reuter) - Louisiana police Friday were holding five teenagers from a self-styled "vampire clan" wanted in a double murder of one of the teen's parents in central Florida, officials said. Police from the Lake County, Florida, sheriff's department arrived in Baton Rouge Friday to begin questioning 15-year old Heather Wendorf and four other teenagers captured while trying to check into a downtown hotel Thanksgiving Day. The five teenagers were arrested on warrants charging first-degree murder in the bludgeoning deaths of Richard Wendorf, 49, and his wife Ruth Wendorf, 54, whose bodies were discovered by police late Monday in their home in Eustis, Florida, about 25 miles north of Orlando, police said. The teenagers were first reported missing in Murray, Kentucky, a small town near the western tip of Kentucky where they were known as members of "The Vampire Clan," a tight-knit, secretive group suspected of sucking blood from small animals and each other in graveyard rituals. "They like to cut their arms and suck the blood out of each other's arms," said Murray Police Sgt. Mike Jump. "In a ritual in a remote graveyard, they've been known to kill a small animal and suck the blood out of it, supposedly to give them more power." 
"Life is in the blood...Do Not drink the blood..." Bible.
I am an exorcist and I have seen more than I care to report. 
Wardc (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think you are missing the Point! 

message: I wonder if there are works studying the possibility of the man possessed by the demons being a victim of multiple personality disorder. Does anyone know anything about this? Waldir talk 12:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  original research? 

message: --207.14.129.217 (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Like. MinorProphet (talk) 06:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  legions on the brain? 

message: Guys, I had to clean this article up because the lead was a mess.  I tried to follow Wikipedia:Lead guidelines for a lead.  The quotes from the bible were all over the place so I also cleaned that up. 00:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: I propose that this article should be merged with Exorcising the Gerasenes demonic - they cover exactly the same subject matter, and this article (Legion (demon)) has more information on the geographical area of the miracle and more incoming links.  However, there may be a more appropriate article title (Gerasenes demonic, perhaps?). Tevildo (talk) 00:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not checked, but if there that many references to Legion, then it exists OUTSIDE the context of the Miracles of Jesus and the merge does not make sense. It certaily doe snot make sense to merge in that case, because the "Gospel episode" is then not related toall of those and needs to be on it sown. Therefore, the page Legion should cover all these other issues, and the separate page on the Gospel episode must remain. As is, there is a uniform structure for all Miracles of Jesus, wherein each has a brief description in it sown page. That uniformity i sbest maintained and Legion should remain a page on its own. I am therefore switching to oppose. However, after checking more, I think Legion must merge with Legion in popular culture. History2007 (talk) 15:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are really two topics here: One is the miracle reported in the Bible, the other is the demon and its attributes - which were later extended in popular items (I hesitate to say culture). So two articles, one about the biblical issues, the other about how the demon was later psycho-analyzed in Beverly Hills, how much it paid to the psychiatrist, etc. Think of it this way, there is one group of users who want to learn about the Biblical episode, and do not really need anything else. As in all other Gospel episode" accounts, that needs to be a brief and to the point page itself. There is another group who wants to explore the demon etc. and they need to see the page Legion, with a section called "In popular culture". Seems simple enough. History2007 (talk) 13:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I think there's a contradiction between the Gospels: according to Matthew 8:24, two men were possessed, whereas Mark 5:2 and Luke 8:26 only speak of one man.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.147.136.50 (talk) 18:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 1 here and 2 there. Good observation! I think that it should be stressed in the text accordingly. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 06:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  One or two possessed men? 

message: It's just a demon, not yer actual death knocking on the door. Cleanup needed, as in: delete entire article and start all over again. There may be one or two salvageable sentences. MinorProphet (talk) 06:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you point to specific issues in sourcing, phrasing, formatting?  The article doesn't say that Legion is real.  In fact, it describes Legion as a character in a story that just happens to be in the Bible.  Ian.thomson (talk) 06:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I'm really sorry, I think my comments were meant for talk:Exorcism of the Gerasene demoniac, and I may have become temporarily disoriented with 103 tabs open. If there was a point I was hoping to make, it would be "One demon, or many?" MinorProphet (talk) 06:39, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow.... 

message: Why do we need two articles on the same event? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:00, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that most of the discussion on this topic is at Talk:Exorcism of the Gerasene demoniac#Duplicate article Legion (demons). Klbrain (talk) 06:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplicate article