Talk:Abu Omar al-Baghdadi

message: He is dead. , citing: Reuters, AP and CNN. DragonFire1024 12:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead 

message: Apparently, this guy never existed.  — BRIAN0918 • 2007-07-18 18:08Z
:Can be checked easily by anyone capable of more than basic Arabic. If he is real and Iraqi, his accent would be a dead giveaway: IIRC almost all native Iraqis would have a tendency to pronounce certain "k" sounds like "kh" (the fricative, like clearing your throat) for example, use specific dialect terms. The source is barely citeworthy; it is certainly extremely unreliable. Coalition penetration of the OPFOR inner circle is de facto nonexistent, and Coalition has not exactly a history of hiring the most reliable "local talent". Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 11:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake

message: Isn't it called the Islamic State of Iraq now?DougOfDoom talk 21:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite, the ISI is technically the term for any territory held by that alliance of (mostly) Sunni Islamist groups that succeeded the Mujahideen Shura Council. AQI is just one of them , but 'tis true that their presonnel is over-represented. The others are usually homegrown setups of Iraqi Wahhabi Sunnis. "State" in ISI is to be understood literally, it refers to a piece of land not an organization. But this is why I trust SITE Institute more than Coalition HQ, who usually don't bother about such minutiae....  Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of organization 

message: As further evidence that the AP is merely the Western mouthpiece of Al Qaeda, the AP has recently reported that "The leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, offered $100,000 over the weekend for Vilks' murder." This is the Swedish cartoonist who drew an offensive picture of Muhammed or smoked a cigarette in public or some other thing to offend the delicate terrorists. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gjMdM0OfLG36U6HJqTBrRP9ijcEQ 71.215.190.223 05:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resurfaced in the News 

message: This article is included in the :Category:Terrorists which specifically states that actions taken must be noted by an absence of a state of war, which doesn't seem to apply in this case. Can someone please explain? - TheMightyQuill 16:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrorist category? 

message: Supposedly Iraqi police now gives his real name as "Hamid Dawud al-Sawi", ex-Iraqi Army (Ba'ath) soldier (officer?). Coalition official opinion seems to be at present that al-Baghdadi's a fabrication and/or a cover identity for Abu Ayyub al-Masri (who himself is somewhat shaky ID-wise). May also be "as-Sawi". Perhaps also "al-/Az-Zawi". Possibly the original is "-Safi" (a clan fom Najaf); I have not found an Iraqi clan named "Sawi" in a quick-n-dirty search.
Source: Al-Arabija, May 7, 2008. Note that Al-A. is the tiniest bit more reliable than the coalition on average, but solely for not being a belligerent party. Meaning they release more bullshit but less propaganda than Coalition military sources. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 15:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ID, again

message: They seek him here, They seek him there, Those Frenchies seek him everywhere. Is he in heaven? Or is he in hell? That damned elusive Pimpernel! 13:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  yeah, right 

message: Or is it just a name each new leader of AQI assumes when the old one dies? 75.76.213.106 (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does he really exist? 

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