Talk:This Spartan Life

message: I'm marking this as high importance due to its AMAS Mackie award and the fact that it's the first notable machinima talk show. — TKD::Talk 01:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: High importance

message: I've edited the section re: players firing on the show personnel.  While quite funny, I very much doubt the players (e.g. attackers in the Bob Stein interview, "bargain hunters" in the episode 2 monologue, etc.) were truly unaware of the show's filming.  Note that the host was never killed, that many attackers were very slow to attack, or repeatedly displayed terrible aim (as Damien notes in the Bob Stein interview), etc.
The final killer in the Ahwesh interview was obviously part of the show, since it was filmed from the attacker's perspective.  "Poopydoodoo" (ILL Clan interview) was a bit contrived, especially given his voice was on the show soundtrack, and how he "coincidentally" showed up at the final credits.  And the cameraman killing in the Marty O'Donnell interview (part two) was done (as I recall) by members of the "bodyguard competition", not uninvited guests.
Obvious or otherwise, I don't want to throw down suppositions or "original research", so I just made it more ambiguous. — Wisq 16:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players "unaware" of show's filming 

message: ~Halo Physcist- Warrior 3000
~Kamikaze Sal=Almighty Sal(Im Kamikaze Sal I Got my Name Changed)
~Xpert Theif V2 changed his name to x8 Bit Thiefx, but he also mentioned that he might changed it agian DS.
-Sal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AlmightySal (talk • contribs) .
:Thanks for detailing what needs to be changed. I'll add the Halo Physicist. However, the official site crew list still lists KamikazeSal. If this can be updated, then we can update here. Everything on Wikipedia nereds to be verifiable. Thanks. — TKD::Talk 23:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast changes

message: From now on please email me about any changes to the wiki so I can approve. nwallace@thisspartanlife.com
I am the Techinical Director of the show and will comply with Wiki Standards.
Thanks
67.166.241.35 05:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody owns articles.--Drat (Talk) 05:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: We're happy that you take an interest in ensuring that the content of Wikipedia is accurate. You're free to correct any errors that you see, but keep in mind that one of Wikipedia core, non-negotiable policies is that content must be verifiable, meaning basically that it has to have been published by a reputable source; for certain types of information, this may be the show's website itself (however, certain areas, like critical reception, require third-party sources). Content also has to be written from a neutral point of view. — TKD::Talk 04:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing TSL Wikipedia

message: This Spartan Life is down for the time being since they are getting new severs, (they sight that the show has grown so much that they need new severs to handle all the traffic), TSL will be down until they get the replacement severs up and running.
EDIT- The severs are back online now --Downskated 06:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Site Down 

message: For almost 30 minutes I've been scanning any TSL-related sites, but I have yet to come up with a reference to Festival Nemo that I could link to. Are homepage news archive links acceptable, or should I get a Festival Nemo official link? --Chromium 01:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Festival Nemo Links 

message: apperently all the work that we did chro, it didn't upload for somereason, why i don't know
--Downskated 04:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well since i had to correct a editing confilict chro you should check all your corrections to see if they carried over. --Downskated 04:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failure to update 

message: I was trying to track done citation that TSL was at Nemo Festival the best i could come up with was this http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://iarvers.free.fr/spip/isaevent.php3&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DFestival%2BNemo%2Bthis%2Bspartan%2Blife%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
and here is the french link http://iarvers.free.fr/spip/isaevent.php3
sorry i speak german not french --Downskated 07:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation 

message: Does this article still constitute start-class? The official guide says that most articles that require cleanup start at B-class, and this doesn't anymore. If it needs work, Downskated and I have been told that we will get pictures and more information soon from Chris Burke, the host, so this won't be short for long. --Chromium 21:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably B-class by now, and I've changed the rating as such. But it's got a ways to go before GA or A-Class. It's in better shape than it was 48 hours ago, though. Just keep looking for references. — TKD::Talk 21:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now THERE'S something I can do. --Chromium 21:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Rest assured, at some point, I will ... can't know too much about TSL or Chris in general. Thanks. --Chromium 02:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Start Class

message: I was think that i should expand the wiki and include a section on the webepiosdes, but part of the problem is that they can no longer be viewed, since this is the case where TSL interview probably its most famous guest Korn, Chris did mention that he wanted me at least mention the webisodes which have done in the first paragraph, also i would like to mention here that i have had a few independent people look at this wiki, (of various level of prehand knowledge, of the subject (if you would like i could name them)) but from the person who little about video games, and nothing about machinima could understand what the article was about, i have had 2 people state that it wasn't indepth enough, and was too short, and i had a person call this "the prefect wiki article, and that all wiki articles should try to reach this" (and this guy hasn't even seen TSL), so TKD what should we do??? --Downskated 06:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of these are already linked, but you should incorporate more material from these links: Institute for the Future of the Book, Institute for the Future of the Book 2, Publish.com, Globe and Mail, Austin Game Conference, brief mention in USA Today.Note that the Institute for the Future of the Book links are blogs,but the "professional research" exception of WP:RS probably applies. — TKD::Talk 10:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just threw in the Publish.com article, or one bit of it anyway, and I plan to get around to the rest sooner or later. I'm also going to go in soon and strike a happy medium between the elegant yet not very professional character list and the more functional and less good-looking character paragraph. There's a way, I know it. --Chromium 23:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, a group shot of Damian and the major characters together? That would save space; that's how it's done in the Red vs. Blue article. — TKD::Talk 23:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Another source: Kakiseni (middle third of the article). — TKD::Talk 02:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Two more: Edge, Workspace Unlimited. — TKD::Talk 02:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been thinking - can I make a composite image out of the available ones? Or is that a legal no-no? --Chromium 19:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that it's totally verboten. Something trivial like placing screenshots side by side would probably be okay, but a collage probably wouldn't. I'm wondering: There probably is a shot of at least Damian and Fyb3roptik and/or Octobit together somewhere in the episodes, no? — TKD::Talk 01:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Found another source, the one that one Isabelle Arvers who has stopped by this page in the past did. It's really good, I plan to work the material in soon. Here.--Chromium 19:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Yay; another list has bitten the dust. However, the stub left in its place is not exactly much better. --Chromium 23:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webisodes and Review 

message: Alright, to get this article to go up a little in quality, I've redoubled my efforts to comply with Wikipedia's standards. I just finished remaking the characters section, complete with a new picture, and everything's more or less not as "list-y". Anything else while I'm at it? --Chromium 16:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Halo 2 was released in November 2004, so it'd be 8 months, not a year and a half. — TKD::Talk 10:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Katundu source, first response paragraph.  --Chromium 19:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: So, moving right along, what else needs to be done? We've removed all of the lists and such, so those aren't a problem anymore; aside from more sources (we will have a new one tomorrow, an audio source) are there more things we could do? --Chromium 19:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One idea would be to expand the Reception section by summarizing what the cited articles have said about the show. I'll try to give the article a closer look this weekend. — TKD::Talk 09:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup and Sources 

message: I went through the article. The biggest problem is that there are going to need to be better sources for some assertions. The show itself can't be a source for anything in the reception section. The other thing to be careful of (and I excised a few instances) is to maintain an even tone. The phrase "the likes of" is too informal. My recent sweep of the article was more concerned with formatting references consistently, though, aso don't take what I did as the end-all. I'll see what I can do as far as finding more comprehensive secondary coverage. — TKD::Talk 09:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, but i don't understand why the part about the webesiodes needs citation, there are sources for it, i'll get them, but i know that there is first party sources, and the fact that everyone that works with this spartan life has seen these webesipsodes. ok you request a citation about the spike tv stuff well i found it (not very good though), http://3dfilmmaker.com/2006_01_01_archive.html its the forth from the bottom (dated Friday, January 06, 2006), additionally you ask me to source the statement about gamers providing backdrop, i'm i have that source saved on my computer, in my chat logs with the show creator chris burke, is that a good enough source?   PS- i could probably pound out all the sources required just give a little while to do it. --Downskated 09:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not that I doubt that a lot of this stuff is true; it's that we need sources so that other people can verify that it;s true. Chat logs are never acceptable as sources. I still need to do a sweep of what I know exists in terms of reliable sources. However, I may not get to that until this weekend. — TKD::Talk 08:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: don't rush, i'm still think over ways to include several things that i would like to add, but i'm debating on how to add them, also i'm think about mentioning all the awards that TSL has won. --Downskated 05:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do 

message: There is a high great likelyhood that with the release of the halo 3 and its This Spartan Life content that there will be a surge in the viewership of This Spartan Life, should this wiki be prepared in any sort of manner to get it ready for that possibility. --Downskated 06:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any substantially new verifiable information from reliable sources? — TKD::Talk 11:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prep for Legendary Release 

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message: The name (This Spartan Life) is a play off of a real show hosted by NPR radio host Ira Glass called This American Life. It would be worthy of mentioning.JayAlto (talk) 04:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This needs a source. — TKD::Talk 03:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Etymology

message: Considering This Spartan Life is now on Halo Waypoint and that they are making new episodes, should this article be updated? I believe so. This page hasn't been updated for about a year. 76.121.138.201 (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Update? 

message: These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages.
More third party sources will be needed for GA/FA. The short, one-paragraph subsections describing the characters should be merged. in one larger section; stubby sections don't go over well during GA/FA candidacy. — TKD::Talk 09:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comments