Talk:Gender of rearing

message: I just moved the article to "gender of rearing" instead of "sex of rearing". Rearing is the epitome of gender, not a sex thing. People are brought up according to "You are a boy/girl" not "You have a vagina/penis/whatever". -- AlexR 16:06, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that most people use "sex of rearing", but since the distinction of sex and gender exists, it is obviously an incorrect phrase. And "past usage" isn't much of an argument, is it? We are not writing a past encyclopedia, but a current one. Currently, we distinguish beween sex and gender. We shouldn't encourage people to use incorrect concepts by making articles about those, but rather link the incorrect phrase to the correct one. And "sex of rearing" is POV because is asserts that sex and gender are really interchangable things, which is a POV often maintained by people who refuse to acknowledge either the reality of transgender or the problems of incorrectly assigned intersex people. As to why it needed changing, well, methinks that I stated that in my first comment already, and elaborated in this one. -- AlexR 23:07, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: Well, I have no intention of removing the redir, since it is where many people would look for the article. However, I have more than a bit of a problem with the rest of your "arguments". First of all, what makes you so sure that people don't even notice the change or that it will not change their understanding of the subject? I have made different experiences. And second, the argument "it's just PC" is not an argument at all, no matter where one uses it, and in this case, it is non-applicable as well, since there obviously is a difference between sex and gender, something a person should know who has, according to his user page, edited many intersex articles. Claiming that there is none is decidedly POV, and I hope that I will never get there where I demand that reality should conform to my personal prejudices, so I don't have to bother thinking any more, but can get by repeating the same old phrases again and again. Which, incidentally, has nothing whatever to do with PCness. And unless you happen to have something like an argument in your next edit, don't expect me to reply. It seems utterly pointless and a complete waste of time. -- AlexR 17:49, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to ''Gender of rearing''

message: The Wikidata item for this article is currently an "instance of" "gender". Is that correct? (I'm asking here, because I guess not many people are watching the item there.) Sam Wilson 02:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sam, I'm sure you're right about fewer people watching there. If that is a concern, the best way to do this, imho, is to raise it on the Wikidata talk page anyway, since that's where the issue resides (and also because wikidata has its own rules that aren't necessarily the same as here, but that's a lesser point), and then add a brief comment here inviting people to go have a look and comment at the (linked) Talk section there. If you want more eyeballs, you could paste the same linked invitation to relevant WikiProject Talk pages such as WT:GS and WT:LGBT. Mathglot (talk) 05:26, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Instance of?