Talk:Noob Saibot

message: This sentence makes no sense from a grammer standpoint.  It's like someone took a bunch of completely different sentences, cut them each in half and then tried to combine them all into one sentence.
"Bi-Han's downfall from being a human original Sub-Zero into a special revenant Noob Saibot is soon being mentioned by his younger brother, the current Sub-Zero and Scorpion Mortal Kombat X."
--Anthony (talk) 04:28, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  This sentence needs help 

message: Noob saibot did not first appear in MK4 but in the Mortal Kombat Trilogy.
:Erm, it doesn't say that anywhere in the article. Besides, his first appearance was MKII.Virogtheconq 17:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noob Saibot's Appearance is incorrect 

message: As the viewer can see, this article has been updated with all information pertaining to his life as Sub-Zero. This has been done in an effort to reduce the size of the main Sub-Zero article, as well to compile all relevent data about the character into one article, as it should be. Shadaloo 08:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Just a suggestion, but perhaps in the infobox we could separate some of the sections (I was thinking Appearances and Portrayers) into Sub-Zero and Noob subsections, since it's not clearly marked elsewhere which appeared in what game/production. Virogtheconq 21:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It was part of the storyline to MK: Deception. I'll take a look at the article and see if it can't be made a little more clear from the outset. Virogtheconq 16:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I can see why Wikipedia does not condone the in-universe format. Unless you're a big Mortal Kombat fan who follows each new installment religiously, there's no way of knowing how hell did the Old Sub-Zero became Noob Saibot. In the real world, the character was Noob Saibot first and then revealed to be the Old Sub-Zero second, not the other way around. The Sub-Zero should cover both Sub-Zeros, not just the current one. Jonny2x4 02:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. You're wrong. Noob Saibot was a character introduced  in Mortal Kombat II who was revealed to be original Sub Zero in Mortal Kombat Deception. THAT's the perspective the article should take. A real world one, not an in-universe. Jonny2x4 21:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Nope. Information on both Sub-Zero characters should be on Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat). It should be explained that the "character who appears in Mortal Kombat II and onward is the younger brother of the Sub-Zero from the first game." Jonny2x4 (talk) 14:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged with Elder Sub-Zero's information

message: While browsing some MK4 codes, I came across a guide that said that one of Noob Saibots fatalities was Deep Freeze.  No button combonation was given, and therefore I am skeptical.  Have you ever seen this happen or done the fatality because if you have, it should be noted in this page. This is because that would have been a hint he was the original Sub Zero way earlier than everybody thinks.  --DragonMaster 02:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: MK4/Gold Noob Saibot

message: How do you use his Ninja Stars in Deception
Either through a special move or in his finishing moves. Shuriken is not a fighting style in Deception. The S 02:21, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 3rd Style

message: Neither one of you can be conisdered 100% correct.  How does Shadaloo know that Noob Saibot doesn't have a real name?  I am sure he does but no one knows it yet.  And how does the other person know that his name could be Tsui Park? The problem with Wikipedia is that anyone can contribute any info they may know, and a lot of the times and possibly in this case, the information given is not 100% correct.  I don't believe either one of you on this subject at all.  There is a much better site to get info on MK characters.  Thank You.
Ok. And as soon as you tell us what that site is, I'll be sure to go there.  And I never said he did not have a real name. My statement is that his name has not yet been officially revealed in a game, and until it is, it is unknown. That's a fact. Shadaloo 06:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems With Site

message: What are the sources of Noob Saibot's fighting styles? --Mista-X 20:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm... the games themselves. Where else would they come from? The S 01:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly the manuals, or some other documentation or official statement / source from Midway? --Mista-X 08:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fightin styles

message: Why does it say that MK1 is set in 1991? The years the games come out aren't the years the games are based. That would mean that Deception is two years after Deadly Alliance. - The 4th Snake
:Only the first game was set in the same time.  The second game was almost immediately after that.  Then some time later was the third series, blah, blah, blah...  So, in other words, just because MK1 was set in 1991, it doesn't mean that all games were set in the years they were released.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 01:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, MKD can be two years after the beginning of MKDA. At least, there is a palace constructed, a lot of warriors slain for their souls to be placed in the soldiers, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmr2hn1 (talk • contribs) 14:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years 

message: I'm curious, why does his bio state that he is evil, he's not, he's neutral. This is obvious because of the fact that he not only fought for evil men, he also betrayed them for his own benefit, that fits a description of a neutral personality in my opinion. If being a good guy brought Noob power, he'd be a good guy, cause that's what he does, he seeks power, and will do anything to get it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.11.147 (talk • contribs) 
:Ashrah's trading card says "...she must slay powerful evil such as Noob Saibot..." . Also, the official MK:D website mentions that the Noob-Smoke team are evil . A trading card wasn't made for Noob, but Smoke's card says that he is good . So, you'd figure that one of them would have to be evil. RobWill80 01:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, Mortal Kombat: Tournament Edition states quite clearly, specifically, and bluntly that his alignment evil. I can't directly link to it, but you can copy+paste this link for verification if you want to check: http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/mortal_kombat_tournament_edition_a.txt MarphyBlack 01:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alignment 

message: Please people, his name is "Noob" not "N00b", someone went through the entire friggen' article and changed all "noob"s to "n00b"s, i've changed most of them, his first name was meant to be "Boon" spelled backwords, the fact it is the same as internet term was coincidential, as I said i've changed most of the names back to the correct version, if any more are there plese change them for me. BassxForte 21:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. :) RobWill80 21:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Cool, thanks for the update. I'm not sure we can use mk5.org but it doesn't seem to hurt. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 01:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Sub-Zero and Noob Saibot are seperate charecters in MK2 and MK 3 ultimate.Where are the sources for them being the same person? Even in trilogy they are 2 seperate charecters.-Vmrgrsergr 04:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Mortal Kombat: Deception, Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. MarphyBlack 05:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is not Sub-Zero 

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message: Some of the Sub-Zero info should be removed. Once it's established that Noob is the former Sub-Zero, that should be enough. No need to have Sub-Zero's move list in another character's page. Sub-Zero has his own page, this one should focus on Noob Saibot. 66.167.147.212 09:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove some Sub-Zero information 

message: I know that if you freeze noob saibot in mortal kombat II, the frozen graphic is of kano!  I just thought that was interesting...
Please sign your posts and... since I don't own MKII i'll need a screenshot, give me a screenshot and i'll add it in the article. BassxForte 05:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Also MK the movie is based sorly on MK2's bios on what happened in the first tournament. This then is in-game bios, from the in-game bios it's accurate which doesn't say too much. Also the three earth worriors are sure to live, so them as there is no other real outworld worriers, they must become outworlders a bit by being under Tsung's command, it's earth vs outworld even in the fake second tournament. Also Scorpion is killed off first before sub is also anyways. Actually MK1 is in reallity 70-90% correct to bios of 1+2. Even though this is for older sub noob i'll post it else where the accuracies in the movie.
Here are the accuracies
-Kang wins
-All 3 survive
-All the bios (in game basics)
-Katana’s bio shows no time where it happens or who she talks, also it look to already happened (looks past tense), also not an actual kombatant in the movie, seems more she requested (she fights no one else), also this does not mean she starts the whole rebelian and actual aiding of many warriors like in MK2 which would safely follow in the true second film(meaning if where not MK:An)
-There is enough gore, violence for the bios (in MK2 done accurate there would be more then this)
-More then the seven on roster of MK1
-The new Raiden as earth protector would make sure he couldn’t interfere (On MK2 it’s not to do with the elder’s official dual so it could be urged even by them to help in that fake tournament to stop Kahn)
The small differences or add ons (no true inaccuracies in story from the in game bios)
-None of the areas when fighting
-Changes to the spear to add to scorpion, also by opening it’s mouth could grab without killing like game 
-Some of MK2's looks are intertwined with MK1's (ex: Tsung’s youth plus long hair)
Some inaccuracies
-Kano as if never fights, was captured and never made to lure Sonya, comes thinking Tsung’s palace was made of gold
-Sonya never fights him and kills him in 3 off a roof (not to say it’s undoable again as is different) and also fights to protect unit’s freedom, in the movie she is later though but to fight Tsung, this is Tsung’s plan to ensure the last victory, to fight a weaker opponent
-Reptile which could been fixed by merely adding his gowns in the building, Liu grabs him and flings him into the building he keeps his suite at and bust’s out of the rubble as Reptile (as a bodyguard he would listen to Tsung’s commands also, his watching over her is little)
-Scorpion kills Sub-zero, though it looks like before and outside of tournament by sounds (follows Sub-zero to tournament and assassinates him)
Combining, though I said there aren’t any it’s they don’t look similar enough to be MK2
-Sonya tied, this isn’t like MK2 where she is tied to look while earth warriors die, she is merely tied from escaping, the whole Tsung plot is based on the fact on MK1 she was captured first, also she may be recaptured again by the squads led by Baraka and would then be as if never came back from the tournament from Jax’s eyes
-The MK2 area, that symbol can be used as a design and the actual sky palace in outworld could make an appearance, other areas later use it
Final review
Kang: 100% accurate (good)
Cage: 100% accurate (good)
Sonya: 65% accurate (the changes leave no feeling as the movie version is not too radically different)
Scorpion: 60% (deadliest of enemies is all that’s needed, they at least added a new reason, also if he doesn’t kill Sub-Zero it does not conclude the movie versions are not supreme enemies)
Sub-zero 80% accurate (it should been as was, scorpion would actually hold a title as good guy in the tournament in terms of earth and sub-zero outworld as in story, earth vs outworld is the setup)
Raiden: 100% accurate (remember he was not earth protector as well in the MK1 game, added on MK2, as with Kahn due to arrangements they both cannot interfere or go into each other’s realms, though Raiden can on MK2 due to it being a fake tournament not to do with the elder’s intentions)
Kano 65% accurate (if where 100% might not have fought at all as unlike Sonya no mention of him fighting is present, also like Sonya it’s little different as is waiting to get paid a lot of money for the luring, so it is similar)
So basically see it from MK2's eyes as MK2 revised the strory from being a simple SF tournament. Also by looking at it Sub-zero would been the only outworlder by the cast of 1, and yes it is outworld vs earth.
Also Paul DID NOT MAKE the movie as he only directed it, a director is not a maker of the film, only writter, the true maker. A director has only one more thing to do then the Producer with script. This is to insure it's brought to film as best as possible. The credits show a lie on all movies, we'll blaim or praise a director for many things in the film, but the writter makes it all, the director only makes little inserts like a contest winner to add something to a film, but mostly he chooses the cam angles/other and oversee's how well it's acted.
I said the last because many un-eduacated people still beleive the director does much anything to film or that this truely is a Paul Anderson film, only thing that's correct about A "director's" film is that he baught the script. He never wrote or "made" this and never realy made that bad of films till he started to make films for real. W.S. in his new credits also warn of "Wrote. Script." This is not Anderson's film it IS Ed's mostly. On that I don't like there new desision to make a new film now as this ones good as well as accruate, also they are merely going to make some visual changes or they might even be as stupid as Doom and skipp all but 3 and change it up even more. This new dicision is mostly probly made out of that Anderson is it's maker. But this movie is fair enough. even all the humor is based off the small humor in MK1+2, not like on the other's like Double Dragon were the production it self is a joke because the changes.
Basically it's in the comic world close to Sin City and alittle bit BatMan in the 80's (on a note both have small inaccuracies but BM:B has many more with only Joker fixed, and in the 80's movie this was only changed to add to him being the main villin in BatMan anyways). It's NOT going anywhere in the direction as MK:A (movie) with skipping MK2's fake tournament and being only 20-30% accurate and bloodless and PowerRanger esque. MK1 is only bloodless because the certain people have to live and die, next if MK2 was made accuratly thered be based of bios and stories more blood(also MK blood is unrealistic as it sprays out from cloths, explosions means many more bones then needed and a black guy will turn white(Jax exploding), this stays more to actual amount of blood for that fight).
BTW one thing, if anyone read the manuals as I have but lost it tell me if it's in there that scorpion killed him in the booklet, if not it's was added later anyways, if is it's only one of the small changes not too big enough.BobtheVila  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the first movie 

message: Maybe someone should add something about noob's black blood in Deception?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joelarthurrox (talk • contribs) 10:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blood 

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message: I have never heard Saibot say "you will die mortal," and I lost to him a fail deal. Also, it claims that Shao Khan will say "Its official; you suck." But thats not heard either, instead using the phrase "You Suck" without any other words. Can anyone confirm that the lines stated in the article are actually what was said? The phrase is akward and wouldve created a very long death scene, as well as completely negating any of the character's personality. "its official" seems massively out of place, and i cant recall him ever using that half of the line. 74.128.56.194 (talk) 19:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't confirm it with a reliable source (but rather through gameplay) but I don't think you can deconfirm it... It is possible to deconfirm something right? Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 22:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-existent dialogue 

message: Putting links here:
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/02/17/mortal-kombat-noob-saibot-reveal-trailer-is-devastatingly-awesome/
http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/02/18/mortal-kombat-9-combos-liu-kang-and-noob-saibot-videos/
http://mmomfg.com/2011/02/16/noob-saibot-combo-trailer-0216/
http://www.godisageek.com/2011/02/mortal-kombat-noob-saibot-gameplay-trailer/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/noob-saibot-returns-to-mortal-kombat/
http://www.lazygamer.net/noob-saibot-joins-the-mortal-kombat-roster/
http://www.techday.co.nz/gameconsole/news/noob-saibot-confirmed-for-mortal-kombat/19317/2/
http://gamerfront.net/2011/02/mortal-kombats-new-challenger-is-total-n00b-status/6214
http://www.gametactics.com/2011/02/mortal-kombat-noob-saibot-video/
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/15826-mortal-kombat-trailer-shows-off-noob-saibots-moves/
http://www.xbox360digest.com/2011/02/16/noob-saibot-returns-to-the-mortal-kombat-tournament/
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/02/mortal-kombats-newest-kombatant-will-make-you-puke/
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/02/17/brutal-mortal-kombat-noob-saibot-trailer/
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/article/new-mk-video-reveals-noob-saibot-123949
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Mortal-Kombat-Liu-Kang-Noob-Saibot-Body-Breaking-Combo-Trailers-30154.html
Insane amount of articles shouldn't be wasted so i've weeded out the unecessary ones and narrowed it down to these few. Hopefully we can get some things from this. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 23:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Announcement of MK9

message: "Cheap" is obscure slang; can we rephrase this to help general readers? Equinox (talk) 16:57, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: How about "overpowered"?Tintor2 (talk) 18:42, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sounds good. I'll change it. Equinox (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "One of the cheapest Mortal Kombat characters" 

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