Talk:List of smallest cities in the United Kingdom

message: Small, or large, should be classed on area.  Population figures signify the number of people living there, regardless of size.  A city, or a country, might be much larger than another but less populated. (Unsigned comment as of 21:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cities -  size or population figure? 

message: shouldn't Canterbury be on this list? I'm not sure how exhaustive this list is but at any rate the page for Canterbury gives a population of less than Salisbury, and is listed on City_status_in_the_United_Kingdom 82.3.91.188
Hi. I created this page by going through the list of cities on the City status in the United Kingdom page and checking their individual pages for the populations stated. Then I checked the council websites for more up-to-date census information. What I should have done is put my sources up here, sorry about that. Can't do that right now as don't really have an hour free but will get around to it in a while, in the meantime if anyone wants to do this instead it would be very much appreciated. Thanks. --Sachabrunel 19:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled

message: If you want small cities - try Golovin, Alaska, supposedly a city with 144 inhabitants. The rest of the settlements around the Nome area also claim to be cities and are nearly all under 600 inhabitants. Can this be correct? Jack 21:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the USA pretty much any settlement can be called a "city". In the UK it has a formal definition dependent on the grant of city status by the crown. Hence, it's not surprising there's a massive difference between the smallest "cities" in the two countries. Cheers, DWaterson 00:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smallest cities in the world 

message: This article is about areas with city charters.  Indeed, its utility may be in exposing and exploiting the fact that some very small settlements are officially classified as cities (St David's and Wells are famous for being so small).  There is the use.  However, the population numbers are not for the official definition of the city, as City of Durham, City of Carlisle, City of Canterbury, City and District of St Albans etc don't conform with the boundaries of the towns to which the population numbers refer.  Hence, to use the populations of the towns contradicts the purpose of this article: to detail the smallest official cities. Bastin 12:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: So unless there were two separate 2001 censuses in the UK (there weren't) either this topic or Wells' own is incorrect. This puts it at 2nd in England, 3rd in the UK with 10,000 inhabitants; whereas its topic buts it at 4th in England (linking to this topic) and 7th in the UK with C.15,000 inhabitants. Any particular reason? Has someone included outlying areas in one of the statistics, or a typo made? Either way, both cannot be right.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.64.97 (talk) 15:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Population of Wells recorded by the 2011 census is 10,536. This is for the civil parish of Wells, which quite precisely covers the urban area. Argovian (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population of Wells? 

message: Should this list not include overseas territories? The city of Hamilton, Bermuda would then surely be the smallest? Owain (talk) 16:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because overseas territories aren't part of the United Kingdom. Bastin 16:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yes as the page is currently constituted that is true, it doesn't belong here. Might be an interesting footnote that there is a British city smaller than St. Davids though... Owain (talk) 19:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The 2001 population of Lincoln too is given as 85,595, smaller than Worcester. Draggleduck (talk) 17:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overseas territories 

message: I've noticed that Derry is used in this list however I'm thinking, as the lead mentions chartered cities and since Londonderry is the name used in that city's charter, should we follow the consensus currently on City status in the United Kingdom and use Londonderry in context of the chartered and official name? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by that? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean stop trying to provoke problems. It was long ago decided that Derry should refer to the City, and Londonderry was to be used to refer to the County, in its present form at least. Being on the wrong side of history might be fun for you (although to be honest your time on this earth would be much better spent doing more productive things), but it is just annoying for everybody else who has to deal with it. Sans culottes (talk 15:59, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong side of history? What are you on about? I was simply making a suggestion of context. Theres no need for that accusation abaout provoking problems when I'm not. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone knows the context of Derry as a city, without the artificial London prefix tacked onto the original name. Also the consensus you cite is in the extreme minority—the vast majority of Wikipedia pages use Derry. Sans culottes (talk 17:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  London/derry 

message: Populations really should now be updated to the 2011 census, at the very least.
Also - would it be possible to include the land area of the cities? Might be interesting. Argovian (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Update... and land areas

message: Have done this - work in progress as some 2001 numbers are wrong such as ward counts etc. 
Where I haven't put refs those counts are from the settlement wiki page, which usually has an 2011 count and a ref to back those up.
The figures with refs aren't perfect, a few are estimates or no straightforward count for 2011 so used an extrapolation of ward counts etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Equalizer (talk • contribs) 12:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Now added area sizes using 2 methods, with explanatory notes. The Equalizer (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 update 

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