Talk:M50 motorway (Ireland)

message: Curious that the Dublin orbital motorway (M50) has a number twice that of the London orbital motorway (M25)...or should I say, "doublin'" it??? Hey, you never know, someone at the Irish road ministry may have a sense of humour or perhaps they just think about things without reference to the UK!  
:Not attempting to trample on the humour, but the choice of M50 makes perfect logical sense. The M50 is a National Primary Route (therefore actually legislated for as an "N" route). All N numbers up to 33 are taken already, and those of N51 or above are National Secondary Routes.
:N/M50 is the only memorable number available apart from perhaps N/M40. N/M34 would have been the allocation if sequential numbering was continued.
:The only slight flaw in this explanation is that N50, although unused, may have originally been included in the secondary route number range.
:zoney ♣ talk 22:50, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Which 'greater course' is this? This is an article about the M50, surely the origin of the name is worth inclusion. Whether it is interesting is a different matter. Why are you here? 217.67.129.153 13:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Older posts

message: Contrary to recent updates on this page M50 J3 is no longer also M1 J3, it is now M1 J1 (with the Airport exit J2) unless signs have been changed very recently. See the middle of this page for the gantry southbound on the M1 for the M50 / N32 exit, it clearly bears the junction number "1". South of this is the M50 (for some reason not actually signed on this particular gantry!) I will revert the changes. --Rdd 17:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Junction numbering

message: Can someone put something about the strange limited exits and entries around junctions 13 and 14. There is a picture with a mention of the overlap. Certain journeys are impossible, such as to enter going anti-clockwise at Dundrum and then exit at Leopardstown. I guess I'm interested in the rational behind the current situation.
Hi. J13 is actually a full junction, only it is in two parts. Going southbound/anti-clockwise on the M50: - you exit at Ballinteer (under the Ticknock overbridge) and down into Dundrum. To get back on at J13 you must take the parallel road south for a mile to the roundabout over the mainline at the top of Drumartin Road (Sandyford Industrial Estate). From there you can join the M50 in either direction. 
J14 is a restricted junction which joins the Leopardstown Road; you can only leave the M50 if heading anti-clockwise/south; and you can only join it to head clockwise/north. 
To complicate matters the on and off ramps of J14 go under the second roundabout and some ramps of J13.
So if you are heading clockwise; first you encounter, in this order;  the off-ramp of J13; on-ramp J14 and a mile further on the on-ramp of J13.
Going anti-clockwise; off-ramp J13, a mile further the off-ramp J14 and when you appear to have cleared all the complex of bridges you meet the off-ramp of J13.
Hence the overlapping!  (Mind you, this all looks simple to the planned Red Cow and N4 junctions)!(Sarah777 06:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: J13/J14

message: I notice that the article on the M50 refers to the first intersection on the M50 as Junction 1 or J1, the second as Junction 2 or J2 etc., as is common in Britian. These should really be referred to as Exit 1 Exit 2 as is the NRA standard. I notice that the use of J1, J2 has caught on amongst some drivers who have used motorways in Britain, but any official references to the motorway, and AA roadwatch etc. use Exit 1, Exit 2. 
I know I am being a little pedantic, but I feel that the article should be ammended reflecting official usage. However I don't intend on editing it myself, only for it to be reverted due to "vandalism". 
Regards,
LLF
LaoisLeinsterFan 17:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junction / Exit??? 

message: Why are miles displayed as the prominant unit it the Fig giving the stats of the M50?
it has 27 MILES ( 43 km )
I shouldn't have to remind people that Ireland uses the metric system, and though many people are familiar with miles their use is becoming less and less every day, and rarely heard anymore, kilometres are the order of the day, and have been on signs for twenty years plus and speed limits for nearly 3 years.
I would like it if the miles were removed, or put in brackets after the km if they must be kept.
(Limbo-Messiah 16:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check. That's about the same distance I get scaling with my left pinkie. (Sarah777 22:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MILES??????????????? 

message: Does anyone know why the M50-N2 rounabout at Fingals has 2 gated tunnels in the centre?I have wondered about this for ages  and have never been able to find an answer. Sgt baker 22:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have noticed this also. I reckon they were allowing for the N2 to pass under the M50 but then decided to make a more miserable junction instead - to match all the other miserable junctions on the M50. (Sarah777 23:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe it's for Metro North? In which case the route was known 10 years ago. (Sarah777 (talk) 00:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finglas rounabout 

message: "Southbound" and "Northbound" are erroneous, especially with the opening of the Dublin Port Tunnel, as these labels were created for the initial Western Parkway section. "Northbound" refers to clockwise and "Southbound" refers to anti-clockwise relative to Dublin city centre . (taken from article).
The fact is that "Northbound/Southbound" are the terms used almost universally when referring to the M50; in common parlance, on the radio etc. Without the closure of the ring, this is pretty much accurate for all bar the tunnel. 
I'm reverting the clock-references. (Sarah777 (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Northbound or Clockwise?

message: thumb|200px|Look at the colours here
The images of the M50 signs used in the infobox are for the M50 in the UK not RoI! Compare these pics with the photograph in the article and you will see that the motorway symbol is on the wrong side! Click the images and you will find that the image names include UK in their title. Likewise the M1 & M11 signs. Peter Clarke (talk) 14:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. That's a problem; for example we get miles before kilometers. We certainly need an Irish version but I, for one, have no idea how to make these  boxes. Sarah777 (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Me neither. Peter Clarke (talk) 11:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Just noticed the m-way symbol on the wrong side (despite Peter Clarke pointing it out!). I'll have a shot at including Limbo's new png. Sarah777 (talk) 02:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmmmmm. I'm stuck! Sarah777 (talk) 02:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't do it either, must have to contact someone who can design a generic motorway info box for ireland, I've changed some routes on other articles too.  I'll do as many as I can.  But it takes a while as there are allot.Limbo-Messiah (talk) 11:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Limbo, are you sure about the yellow colour on the N-route shields? Sarah777 (talk) 12:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Re the 'M'25; it is being tolled and I read somewhere that it will become (somewhat confusingly) the Irish M25. But as I can't remember where I read that I won't put it in the article....Sarah777 (talk) 22:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mind you, I find I keep referring to the big London Orbital as the "M50" - habits are hard to break. Sarah777 (talk) 22:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As the person who started all this caper, I have to say - Well done everybody! PeterClarke 12:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake M50 Signs

message: I see that Sarah has re-rated this article for the WikiProject Ireland from a start-class to a B-class. For an article that has no verifiable references of any kind and the two blog refs that are there fail the reference criteria. The B-class is overrated right now, especially that we have C-class as an classification. With more reference I will be happy to support a B-class assessment. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 03:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies O stern one! Forgot about the new "c"; I rarely stray from upgrading stubs to starts and follow BHG's philosophy in the matter. I read the critera and rated two other Motorway articles to "C". Dunno how I forgot about it as I was a strong advocate of introducing it. I have reverted my error. Sarah777 (talk) 06:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's cool Sarah, thanks. Maybe this can be improved to a B-class soon. ww2censor (talk) 14:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: I have edited the section with reference to speed limits in the particular part of the M50 as they stand currently, to provide more detail. I have kept but rephrased the reasons for such limits being imposed, which were provided by the original author.
My reference in all cases for speed limits is personal experience as the construction limits are subject to change. Ste01 (talk) 17:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Speed Limits

message: The lead paragraph of the article currently states: 
:"The completed M50 motorway was formally opened on 30 June 2005, although the Dublin Port Tunnel, which had been opened on 20 December 2006, also forms part of the route."
The phrasing of this doesn't match the dates given, specifically "which had been opened" implies that the section concerned (the tunnel) opened earlier than the rest of the motorway, not later as the dates give. I don't know whether this is a stylistic problem or whether the dates given are incorrect. Thryduulf (talk) 22:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a minor error. Editing it now although it wasn't me who put it there! :) Ste01 (talk) 22:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dublin Port Tunnel openeing date 

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message: Do people in Ireland sometimes refer to those within the M50 as shorthand for central Dubliners, in the same way that 'inside the M25' is used in reference to London? If so, may be worth mentioning in the article somewhere.WisDom-UK (talk) 12:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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