Talk:The Venture Bros./Archive 2

message: I'd assumed until recently that Dr. Girlfriend was voiced by Harvey Fierstein rather than Doc Hammer--the credits zoom by pretty fast.  (I would have bet money on it)  I kinda think the impersonation is meant to be Fierstein rather than Jackie O.  It's more of a New York accent than New England.
:Well, the voice doesn't sound much like Fierstein to me personally.  Further, the accent sounds similar to Frank White's accent, which Jackson Publick describes in his livejournal as having a New England tinge.  Also, Doc Hammer was born in New England (Connecticut), so I think it's safe to say that the accent is at least an attempt at a New England accent.209.11.161.235 23:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Get the DVD box set - and in particular, watch 'behind the live-action movie' in the extras section; all will be revealed. --moof 13:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Girlfriend's Voice 

message: I believe the name of the flaming torch parody character is Coheed, not Cody. Also worth noting that Ned is a retarded person.
:You have got to be kidding... What indication is there AT ALL to show his name is Coheed? Despite the fact that it is true, I dont think it is overtly notable that we talk about Ned being "retarded", as you so nicely put it.
:Well, he is. If you're so sensitive to a common term for a mental illness, maybe you should take it up to the producers and writers who used it as a comedy bit for Ned's character, not me.
:Also, please sign your comments, and further, add new discussions to the END of the talk page, not the top. I will be moving this next. Thank you. captbananas 06:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Impossibles, Cody? 

message: errr, if "avuncular" is such a quaint word that people are going to need further explanation then it should be removed, not linked. Honestly, are we going to have an encyclopedia entry for *uncles*? Chris Cunningham 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was under the impression that wikilinking a word simply meant that an article existed, not that you assume that others will need explanation. - DynSkeet *  Talk 12:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking random words 

message: Should this section be cleaned up a bit, rather then listing which episodes are on which dvd? -th1rt3en 01:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD Releases 

message: The Sally article states she doesn't have the ability to return to normal like the invisible woman. This is incorrect, it just requires more concentration. This is addressed in the episode when her intoxication leads her to lose concentration and let her skin become transparent.
:I believe she is "normally" invisible and she has to un-invisible her skin herself, rather then the other way around. -th1rt3en 02:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sally Impossible 

message: With Jackson Publick being an alias for McCulloch, is there any reason they are addressed seperately in this article? It's sort of confusing.
:I went ahead and removed the wiki-link for Jackson Publick that was right next to the Chris M. wiki-link. -th1rt3en 02:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publick and McCulloch 

message: From the "Characters" section:
:both brothers have vigorous tendencies, with Hank being primarily adventurous and Dean being "effeminate" and the more bookish of the two.
Try as I might, I can't quite figure out what "vigorous tendencies" are supposed to be in this context. - DynSkeet *  Talk 12:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither can I; you may want to ask User:Slof, as his edit put it there - or you could always rewrite it yourself. :) --moof 13:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: VIGOR! What's wrong with that word? It's close somewhat to "adventurous" and its synonyms, but if I had put that, the next segment about Hank would have been rendered useless.  What I was getting at was that they had vigor ("physical and mental strength, energy or force")--vigor to have adventures, vigor to act as spies, vigor to hunt for clues...basically, if you can't see vigor in these guys (besides when they learn its egg salad for lunch), you're obviously not watching the same show I am. "Vigorous tendencies" is their use and impetus to be vigorous (slightly adventurous, by that, but not precisely).  Anyways, why the big brouhaha over this? If someone feels it's useless, they can rewrite it to make it simpler. Slof 08:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "big brouhaha" was just a simple question. IMO, that is a somewhat obscure meaning for vigor (I might have used "enthusiastic" myself). I didn't rewrite it though, so just take a deep breath. - DynSkeet *  Talk 12:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vigorous? 

message: I noticed that in the season two premier, during the opening montage, Rozalla's "Everybody's Free (To Feel Good)" plays in the background. Can anyone identify if this is a particular version of the song? Mr Bound 14:42, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I have to ask how you've seen the first season two episode yet, when it doesn't come on for more than seven hours from now on the US east coast. - DynSkeet *  Talk 19:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Friday Night Fix, man. 68.234.189.189 19:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gah. I just looked at the main article and saw mention of that. - DynSkeet *  Talk 19:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to say though, I don't know anything about wiki-policy on this, but I wish people would've at least waited until Monday morning before playing so fast and loose with the spoilers on the main page. But, eh, oh well... 68.234.189.189 19:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. If you haven't seen it, though, you're in for a treat. Quite solid. Also, I did manage to find the version of the song, it's the Aquagen techno version. Mr Bound 20:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Everybody's Free (To Feel Good)" 

message: From www.tv.com:
How the boys died the last 14 times:
#Sucked into a jet exhaust
#Crushed by a giant spider
#Blew up the hangar trying to smoke
#Shooting apples off of each others’ heads
#Decapitated riding their motorbikes
#Ripped apart by a were-Thaddius [werewolf Dr. Venture]
#Trying to fly off a roof (Hank only)
#Crushed by a robot
#Running with scissors (Dean only)
#Satellite falling on them (Hank only)
#Gas leak
#Falling into a spiked pit
#Dr. Venture setting their room on fire. [the boys are not seen, but they are trapped inside their beds]
#[The drive-by shooting from episode 13]
::So that would be 13 deaths leaving one death open to specualtion, because they are the 14th pair of clones, and are the 15th in the Venture Brothers line. Gwag 3:09 28, June 2006 (UTC)
:::It wasn't 100% clear (to me, at least) that there have been 14 pairs of clones... if I remember correctly, Venture says "This has happened how many times now?" and Brock replies "This'd be 14." It's possible this means they're developing the 13th set of clones, making the "new" Hank and Dean the 14th pair. That would explain the 13 death scenes, anyway. - DynSkeet *  Talk 12:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This would be the 15th pair assuming that the first pair were clone pods. Otherwise, this would be the 14th time of making a new pair of clone pods, having made a new one after each death. Dr. Venture says he made the first from "toenail clippings" and would probably look like this: bros. - death1 - new pods1 - death2 - pods2 - deaths3 - ... - deaths 14 - pods 14. So one pair + 14 pods (from 14 deaths) = 15 -th1rt3en 15:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also regarding the fact that 3 times only one of the boys died, I believe Brock was stating that this was the 14th time they had to make at least one new clone, not necessarily a new pair. Also note that Hank-only has died twice and Dean-only has died once. If they only made pairs this would mean that there's an extra Dean somewhere. -th1rt3en 15:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 14 montage 

message: Is there any evidence that the Phantom Limb is actually a "high-ranking" member of the Guild, rather than just a member? - DynSkeet *  Talk 12:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Were I a cynic, I might suggest that both of these are based solely on the words of PL himself rather than any outside evidence... but of course I'm not. - DynSkeet *  Talk 21:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phantom Limb 

message: Removing this ridiculous section. "Independent episodes" are de rigeur for about 75% of the series on TV. Besides, VB is unique in that it has a degree of continuity to it, and every episode ISN'T self contained; small characters and occurrances, seemingly minor in one episode, come back prominently in others.209.169.114.213 17:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: O.k. Slof 06:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, in "Eeny Meany Miney Magic" Dean mentions to Triana that they were captured by Ghost Pirates one time, who had a Jolly Roger for a flag. But in "Pirates of the Sargosso" Dr. Orpheous is called by Dean to help with the dead Venture Team Member Tom, which contradicts an earlier episode so either these instances occured at the same time or its a continuation flaw. Gwag 20:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not continuity error. Jackson already explained this one. Dean was simply referring to an earlier incident where they faced real ghost pirates. The pirates that were in "Sargasso" were fakes, they were just pretending to be ghosts. You see? Totally different situations. 68.234.189.189 05:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'independent plots" 

message: I've merged and hopefully cleaned up the Trivia and Themes section into a general 'Homages and References' section, mostly because with the episode pages in full swing and hopefully characters to be the same, the information already here was getting redundant and messy. Obviously, anything not episode specific (like the EXTRA-color and X-1 bits) or that much a running gag (such as David Bowie) gets to be here, though. Hope this helps. Umbric Man 1st July 2006 1:37
:Good job. Slof 14:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganizing the Trivia/Themes. 

message: If somebody is interested in Justice League Unlimited, please go to the List of Justice League episodes to help fix that page, meet this one's high quality standarts.Some users refuse to expand info and create article per episodes, even though they know the existence of the wikiproject and well developed pages like the sub-articles here.--T-man, the wise 02:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed in Justice League Unlimited 

message: I dunno I'd think to qualify as such thecharacter would have to be more like that Frasier character from the radiostation that is also ambiguosly gay but never admits so, the Dana Carvey symilar sketch parody, Fez from that 70s show or Jack from will and Grace. Dean is just kinda whinny, or a wuss, like Ross from Friends. Will from Will & Grace is in the middle, he has a effeminete quality, but he is not that obvious at all.
I think the correct term would be sensitive. I think Dr. Venture would tend to be a lot more effeminate, but just like the Will character, he isn't quite there really.--T-man, the wise 07:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're talking about the description of Dean, that is a direct quote from the show. Brock says something like "Dean's just so..." and Dr. Venture says "Effiminate?" - DynSkeet *  Talk 15:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you go back and watch the episode, which I think is the Christmas special, I believe Dr. Venture actually says "feminine" instead of "effiminate". A subtle difference, but still a difference.12.162.189.80 18:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "effeminate"

message: This section seems to be getting a bit jumbled and messy. I went ahead and added a cleanup tag. -th1rt3en 20:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  homages and referecnes