Talk:Toxaphene

message: It may be a bit confusing that the empirical formula is given as C10H10Cl8 while the sum of hydrogen and chlorine atoms in the image of the molecular structure is only 16 (if the image means only the substitution of chlorine for hydrogen). It should be stated that toxaphene also contains other chlorinated carbohydrates (but I don't know which ones). Icek (talk) 21:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure and formula 

message: These are potential sources we can use to better this article. The sources will be properly cited if they end up being used:
* Ludvik, George F. “Insecticide.” AccessScience. McGraw-Hill Education, 2014. Web. 17 Feb. 2015.  Sej942 (talk) 01:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: those leads are mostly web-based, and some appear to be pretty biased or flakey.  Get some peer reviewed overviews of the area. Stuff that is published.  Ask your teacher about how professionals do literature searches.  Here are some leads:
Tsai, W.-T., "Current status and regulatory aspects of pesticides considered to be persistent organic pollutants (POPs) in Taiwan", Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2010, 7, 3615; c Mansour, S. A., "Persistent organic pollutants (POPs) in Africa: Egyptian scenario", Hum. Exp. Toxicol. 2009, 28, 531; d Lamb, J. C. I. V., Neal, B. H., Goodman, J. I., "Risk assessment of toxaphene and its breakdown products: time for a change?", Crit. Rev. Toxicol. 2008, 38, 805; e Wise, S. A., Poster, D. L., Kucklick, J. R., Keller, J. M., VanderPol, S. S., Sander, L. C., Schantz, M. M., "Standard reference materials (SRMs) for determination of organic contaminants in environmental samples", Anal. Bioanal. Chem. 2006, 386, 1153; f de Geus, H.-J., Wester, P. G., Schelvis, A., de Boer, J., Brinkman, U. A. T., "Toxaphene: a challenging analytical problem", J. Environ. Monit. 2000, 2, 503.
--Smokefoot (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography Of Potential Sources 

message: When we edit this article we hope to discuss the following topic in regards to toxaphene:
*History
*Chemical properties and use of the chemical
**Farming and agriculture
*Environmental fate/persistence
*Exposure
**Ingestion/absorption
*Health effects
**Reproductive and developmental toxicity
**Carcinogenicity
**Immune system
**Respiratory system
*Animal experiments and in vitro studies
*Regulations
Aukere (talk) 01:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is about a chemical compound, NOT about what is bad about it.  So stay neutral.  Be mindful of WP:SECONDARY (real published reviews) and when you get close to human health WP:MEDRS.  Finally, remember that you live in one country with only a few % of world's population, but Wikipedia speaks to many people.  Good luck, --Smokefoot (talk) 01:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of future edits 

message: This is a draft of a new proposed lead section for Toxaphene. This section will outline the main points that will be expanded upon and discussed in more detail throughout the article. References and hyperlinks will be added in the next few days. 
"Toxaphene is a pesticide used extensively in farming in the 1970's and early 1980's. It was most commonly used in the cotton and soybean industry in the Southeastern United States. Toxaphene is a mixture of approximately 200 different chemicals and is produced by reacting chlorine gas with camphene. It can be most commonly found as a yellow to amber waxy solid.
Toxaphene was banned in the United States in 1990 and was banned globally by the  2001 Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants. It is a very persistent chemical that can remain in the environment for 1-14 years without degrading, particularly in the soil.
Testing performed on animals, mostly rats and mice, has demonstrated that toxaphene is harmful to animals. Exposure to toxaphene has proven to stimulate the central nervous system, as well as induce morphological changes in the thyroid, liver, and kidneys.
Toxaphene has been shown to cause adverse health affects in humans. The main sources of exposure are through food, drinking water, breathing contaminated air, and direct contact with contaminated soil. Exposure to high levels of toxaphene can cause damage to the lungs, nervous system, liver, kidneys, and in extreme cases, may even cause death. It is thought to be a potential carcinogen in humans, though this has not yet been proven."
Sej942 (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft of Lead Section

message: The section on health effects on humans builds on these two references:
* "Public Health Goal for TOXAPHENE in Drinking Water". California Environmental Protection Agency.
*"Toxaphene". Technology Transfer Network - Air Toxics Web Site. United States Environmental Protection Agency. Retrieved 17 March 2015.
To me, these are not very good sources.  A peer reviewed published review would meet WP:MEDRS, but state regulations and "Air Toxics" websties seems flimsy.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Health effects on humans