Talk:Ashton-under-Lyne

message: I've added some info about the regeneration in the St Petersfield area of Ashton.  Feel free to add more or tidy up what I've added as required. Aenimiac 22:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Petersfield 

message: There's a free-to-use image of IKEA Manchester, for use with any planned Economy section for Tameside. --Jza84 |  Talk   13:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add it to my list of things to do :-) Nev1 (talk) 13:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  IKEA 

message: Does the ancient Royal Charter granted to Ashton mean it is, still, a market town? --Jza84 |  Talk   22:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly was a market town, and since I can't find any mention of the charter being removed or taken back, I think it still counts as a market town. Nev1 (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. I'll check out Frangopulo's Tradition in Action (1977) to see if I can get some more info. :) --Jza84 |  Talk   14:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Market town? 

message: We have a quote in the history section (about the Industrial Revolution) that says "most famous mills towns in the North West". Is it definately mills towns, not mill towns? --Jza84 |  Talk   20:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it was my typo; sometimes I wish there was a way to copy and paste from paper. Corrected. Nev1 (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just checking 

message: I've tried to source everyone in the notable people section, those I couldn't find sources for have been moved here in case someone else can provide some:
*George Formby, Sr. (there might be something [http://books.google.co.uk/books?
id=Bck6oHB6_AwC&pg=PA260&lpg=PA260&dq=Ashton-under-Lyne+%22George+Formby,+Sr%22&source=web&ots=zY8G5Uqb8m&sig=rBVuYPtjNUWHwDfx_LIOVRLepfQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result here], but I don't have the book)
hhtp://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk  James Booth 1875  Ref:ASH/85/73Velpremus (talk) 13:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable people

message: There's a copy of the Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales used in the references, provided by GENUKI. Just a note there is an exact copy at vision of Britain too. Do we need to swap over? I've provided the url above eitherway. --Jza84 |  Talk   23:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Vision of Britain is a great source, but I'm not sure about GENUKI, I though I'd seen it removed from some articles for being unreliable so I think it's best to use VoB. Nev1 (talk) 23:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I did remember something along those lines, but wasn't sure. :) --Jza84 |  Talk   23:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GENUKI 

message: *I've done some copy editing on the history section removing some occurences of the town name as "Ashton" or "Ashton-under-lyne" seemed to be mentioned at least once, and sometimnes twice, in every sentence. 
*The story about the effigy isn't too clear - did this tradition begin during the lifetime of the Lord or after his death?
*"The lords' consistent absence from the manor is said to have been the stimulus for Ashton's growth of a large scale domestic-based textile industry in the 17th century"  This needs some explanation as it isn't clear why his absence should be the stimulus for the growth of an industry.
*The name Assheton gets shortened to Ashton without comment. Is it known when this happened? If not there should be a comment the first time the spelling changes to say that by that time, it had been shortened. Richerman (talk) 00:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the copy edit. The tradition with the effigy has been given an earliest date. According to British-history.ac.uk, the name Ashton actually pre-dates Assheton; it looks like the Lord of the Manor chose one spelling and everyone else chose another. Nev1 (talk) 14:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History - a few thoughts 

message: I have a rather nice quote at the turn of Ashton's industrial persuits, but I don't know where exactly to put it:
On his tour of northern England in 1849, Scottish publisher Angus Reach said: 
It's probably good stuff for the History section, but I can't see a convenient slot. Perhaps there's something about the transition to manufacturing we could find? Or something about Luddites? --Jza84 |  Talk   23:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about right after "From 1773 to 1905, 75 cotton mills were established in the town"? Prefaced with a bit about machines over-taking hand-looms? Nev1 (talk) 23:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds quite workable. I'd be happy with that. :) --Jza84 |  Talk   23:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 

message: I'd have commented on this at the FAC, but the chances are I'm the only active editor with the relevant sources. Ashton United, under their previous name Hurst F.C. were a significant club in terms of the development of football in the Manchester area. They were the first team from the Manchester area to win an FA Cup tie, when they beat Turton 3–0 in 1883. In 1885 they were the first winners of the Manchester Cup, beating Newton Heath (who we now know as Manchester United) in the final. (All this can be referenced to ) Oldelpaso (talk) 20:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like good stuff. Why not just add it then? --Malleus Fatuorum 21:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I was about to add it myself (although feel free to do so yourself Oldelpaso, it would clearly help the article), but I'm wondering what's meant by "from Manchester"? Nev1 (talk) 21:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be teams who affiliated with the Manchester FA when it formed. In terms of modern day Greater Manchester, Bolton Wanderers won an FA Cup tie earlier than this, but at that time Bolton teams affiliated to the Lancashire FA, and had few links to clubs in Manchester and what we now call Tameside. I've now added it myself, last night fatigue gave me a mental block on how to add it without introducing a dollop of sloppy writing. Hopefully this morning its only marginally sloppy ;) Oldelpaso (talk) 07:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much for sorting that out, it reads fine :-) Might it be worth changing "from the Manchester area" (which is a bit ambiguous) to "member of the Manchester Football Association"? Nev1 (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Manchester FA only formed the following year, so I've changed it to "Of the teams who formed the Manchester Football Association...". Slightly forced, but avoids anachronism. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports section 

message: I took a few snaps of GM while flying into Manchester Airport yesterday, Ashton is one of them.  If anyone wants to use it, feel free.  The factories on the left are along Globe Street. The centre of the image takes in Ashton and Stalybridge. Parrot of Doom 10:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  aerial shot 

message: Is it me or does is it kinda look daft to spell out various distances of Ashton in relation to neighbouring towns? It takes too much space and if someone actually wants to know precisely where Ashton is, they'll use something like Google Maps. Other places across the UK (and Globe) don't go into this detail. I'd leave Manchester in there but the rest, get rid. I just checked out Stalybridge... 6 miles (or 9.7 km) north-west of Glossop. Really? Because Glossop is that well known place. Digg17 (talk) 17:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fair enough, I've gone ahead and trimmed the text in line with your suggestion. Nev1 (talk) 19:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Ashton 

message: I have a souvenir of the King's visit on July 12, 1913 that talks about the visit, the town (history, photos, notable mills, advertisements, etc). I ought to scan the pages. In any case, I think it should at least be noted that he visited. Does anybody else have any information about his visit?
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digg17 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visit by King George V in 1913