Talk:Zenata

message: The line as follows:
"They claimed an Arab (South Arabian) origin, for what most historians regard as political reasons, but this claim is not widely accepted."
Has continued to create contravercy simply because people on both sides of the fence are confused on symantics or rather the words used. The zenata tribal confederation has claimed "yemeni" background and not Arab. This causes some to think Arab & Yemeni are synonomus, so why not use either or. That is an incorrect assumption. Arab denotes speaking Arabic, while the zenata have never claimed to be decendents of Arabs rather they claim to be decendents of Yemeni tribes that did not speak Arabic, rather they spoke an ancient south arabian non-arabic language. It is from ignorance that people continue to use unsubstantiated claims. The problem is that it creates 2 large factions, rather "schools of thought" and both originate in a misinterpreted misunderstood claim.
I had read the page on "Arabization" where wikipedia got it correct for once. It states that Zenata tribes claimed Yemeni origin from pre-islamic times. Yet when one goes to wiki's Zenata page the claim gets flipped to Arab rather then Yemeni. If one delves into history one finds the Yemeni people were non-Arabic speaking "south arabian" tribes up until its Islamization. So even by this one can accertain that the Zenata as well as many other berber (Imazighen) tribes claim to be of Yemeni origin does not conflict with the assumption that they are not Arab. These facts are confused by neo-Arabs and neo-Imazighen who refuse to delve deeper into the matter. Furthermore one can not deny the recent dna tests which place the greatest resemblence between Yemeni, Berber, Fulani & Ethiopian.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazighe (talk • contribs) 11:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Zenata are berber  go to http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenata  it's very good explain.--Great11 (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

text: @70.55.52.96 that is a myth said by ibn al kalbi and was spread by Arab scholars here is the thing al magrizi denied that and also ibn al khaldun it is a myth based of the need to stop berber resistance in North Africa. especially after Berber Revolt 165.16.20.30 (talk) 18:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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