Talk:Fritz Todt

message: Years ago, my late father, Dell Toedt, told me that when Fritz Todt was killed in 1942, some of my dad's (and my) older relatives reminisced about the time that Todt had lived and worked in the U.S. Midwest as a young man -- that he was a first cousin of the older relatives, or something like that.  Presumably this would have been before World War I.  I've never seen anything suggesting Todt spent time in America; the Nazis might have suppressed that information.  Is it worth adding the possibility to the main article, or is it too non-specific? D. C. Toedt 20:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Family tradition details?

message: I was researching the "airplane crash" of Dr. Todt in 1942 at the war-time Hitler field headquarters in Poland, called Wolfsschanze.  It is my understanding that Dr. Todt flew there in his Junker 52, which model was assigned to all the top Nazis of the time, with his personal pilot.  He was waiting in Hitler's office's waiting room for his meeting with the Fuhrer, and Albert Speer also appeared in the room, to await his chance to review his department's activities with the Fuhrer.  It was at this time that Dr. Todt offered Albert Speer a ride back to either Munich or Berlin in his private plane.  According to the account, Speer refused, telling Dr. Todt that he was so tired, he would rather spend another day resting in the war field headquarters with Hitler at hand, which is suspect as he complains in his biography of the tiring train trip there!  Anyway, having turned down Dr. Todt's offer, Dr. Todt is called into Hitler's office for the usual one-way dictatorial monologues Hitler would deliver, demanding more work with less men and equipment.  We know Dr. Todt opposed the German assault on Russia, but the other content of this meeting is not clearly spelled out by researchers but it must have been something important to the Fuhrer for Dr. Todt to have flown to the Wolf's Lair.  Dr. Todt left the meeting with Hitler and soon went to his airplane.  At that time he was informed that his plane needed maintenance and was being put "in the shop" and a loaner airplane was given to him.  When he saw this smaller fighter plane, Dr. Todt became enraged, went to the mechanic in overalls, and said there must be some mistake.  Getting no satisfaction, he raised his voice and said he would personally speak with "de Fuhrer" about this matter.  At this time, under order from Nazi higher-ups, the mechanic grabbed a sawed off 2x4 piece of wood, knocked Dr. Todt unconcious, and Dr. Todt was put unconscious in the loaner airplane.  This fighter plane had a feature where on the floor to the right of the pilot's seat was a lever that was an auto-destruct mechanism.  In the Junkers 52 model, the lever in that position controlled the flaps used at take off and landings.  It is not known if Dr. Todt's pilot was told this on the spur of the moment when planes were switched.  Dr. Todt's pilot was told to take off with Dr. Todt unconcsious on orders of the Fuhrer himself or he would be shot.  The rest is history.  The plane exploded immediately at takeoff killing Dr. Todt and his pilot.  I do not now if there was an open coffin funeral or not but a film is publicly available of this funeral where Hitler spoke.  After the plane crash, Albert Speer was called back into Hitler's office at the Wolf's Lair.  Hitler calmly told Speer that he was being tapped as Dr. Todt's replacement as the Reich needed him in that position now.  What a coincidence!  Luck was truly on Hitler's side.  And Hitler spoke at Todt's funeral just like he spoke at Rommel's funeral and several other Nazis' funerals where he himself had actually ordered the assassination.  Most of this came from books published in Europe and I do not know if Dr. Todt's remains were subjected to forensic analysis.  Also, I cannot obtain any information about Dr. Fritz Todt's personal life, his relatives, his personal financial 
situation, if he had any survivors, who were his enemies in the Reich, who might have been plotting against him, what secret projects had he been working on and were any workers exterminated after the project to keep the project really secret.  There are movies and short books about his work on the border fortresses, the German autobahn highway system which garnered international media coverage in the 1930's, and one or two other subjects.  The book he authored shortly before his death is full of elementary Nazi propaganda to inspire the blue collar munitions factory worker and full of German poems professing nominal fealty to the Fuhrer, but gives no definite insight into his personal beliefs, if they were Pagan or if he had another type of religious philosophy which he would claim.  This information would better enable a historian to analyze his relationship to Adolf Hitler and determine definitely why Hitler was not in the least bit grieved at his untimely demise and explain the instantaneous transfer of the extensive Todt Organization management, within a few hours of Dr. Todt's death, to a younger Albert Speer who had worked as an interior designer and planning architect for some of the government buildings.  It, of course, seems as if the transfer of power of the Todt Organization was pre-planned and no other candidate was even considered and the lightning speed process of transfer, occurring at the war time field headquarters also, made it unchallengeable and unquestionable, especially in a time of war; although few Germans had the courage or freedom of thought to question Hitler's orders and decisions.  Therefore, as more detailed information becomes available about Fritz Todt, especially his personal life, his political ties, his official projects, etc., his place in history can be more clearly defined.
216.146.50.3 15:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Maybe some private facts about Dr. Todt should be included to round up the article. Not much is known about his family life, I only now that his wife's maiden name was Elsbeth Kramer (not related to Hedwig Kramer who married Alfred Rosenberg). Elsbeth Todt died in January 1986 aged 102. The Todt's had two daughters. One of them, Ilsebill Todt, is now in her mid-eighties and - like Gudrun Himmler - still fighting for her father's reputation. I don't know the name of the second daughter and wether she is still alive or not. Does anybody know more than I do? Excuse my bad English, I'm German. 89.51.147.211 16:55, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Todt Family 

message: I have a copy of correspondance addressed to "Hans Todt" recognizing his contributions to the construction of German highways.  I've always assumed that this was really addressed to Fritz Todt.
68.36.203.228 23:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Fritz Todt ever referred to as "Hans" 

message: From a footnote in Speer's memoirs: The plane executed a normal takeoff, but while still within sight of the airport the pilot made a rapid turn which suggested that he was trying for an emergency landing. As he was coming down he steered for the landing strip without taking time to head into the wind. The accident occurred near the airport and at a low altitude. The plane was a Heinkel 111, converted for passenger flight; it had been lent to Dr. Todt by his friend Field Marshal Sperrle, since Todt's own plane was undergoing repairs. Hitler reasoned that this Heinkel, like all the courier planes that were used at the front, had a self-destruct mechanism on board. It could be activated by pulling a handle located between the pilot's and the copilot's seats, whereupon the plane would explode within a few minutes. The final report of the military tribunal, dated March 8, 1943 (K 1 T.L. II/42) and signed by the commanding general and the commander of Air District I, Königsberg, stated: "Approximately twenty-three hundred feet from the airport and the end of the runway the pilot apparently throttled down, then opened the throttle again two or three seconds later. At that moment a long flame shot up vertically from the front of the plane, apparently caused by an explosion. The aircraft fell at once from an altitude of approximately sixty-five feet, pivoting around its right wing and hitting the ground almost perpendicularly, facing directly away from its flight direction. It caught fire at once and a series of explosions totally demolished it."
87.188.199.51 (talk) 03:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crash Details 

message: The section on Todt's legacy simply lists an award given to other Nazi leadership after his death, and does not actually highlight anything significant he is known for or the parts of his legacy associated with constructing concentration camps or leading the Russian war effort. This seems both incomplete and strangely positive for the second-in-command of Nazi Germany during the early war years. I would recommend either significantly changing or deleting this section, but would like input for others before doing so! Please list any objections or thoughts below. Sammytwiki (talk) 05:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleting or significantly changing "Legacy" section?