Talk:Radhanath Swami

message: Regarding: "He received sanyasa initiation in 1982 (from Kirtananda dasa),"
GourangaUK, why "Kirtananda dasa?"
(1) Kirtanananda is spelled incorrectly,
(2) Kirtanananda was known as "Swami" in 1982 and for more than a decade after. It is extremely unlikely that Radhanath would have accepted sanyasa initiation from anyone NOT a Swami. 
I believe it should read: Kirtanananda Swami. Credit should be given where credit is due.
Thank you for your thoughts on this.
Sincerely,
Hrishikesh
Henrydoktorski (talk) 17:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  sanyasa initiation 

message: There are no independent reliable sources in this article.Ism schism (talk) 18:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article has no independent references

message: "There he accepted initiation during February, 1973, [4], becoming one of Prabhupada's disciples (and receiving the name 'Radhanatha dasa')."
I suspect the date of initiation was probably on Gaura Purnima. Can anyone check this out on a Vaishnava calendar? I think it would be nice to include this info on this page, if substantiated. Henry Doktorski (talk) 23:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  initiation 

message: :Based on this  I suspect there was some truth in this edit  my contain some truth, however I reverted it since it appears to be added by the bot/spam generator. Wikidas© 11:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  promotional hit generation compaign 

message: Since he received initiation into sannyasa order via Kirtananda (and remained faithfull to him till the very end), wouldn't it make more sense to mention him as predecssor rather than A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.206.102.148 (talk) 05:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  predecessor 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I believe that there is incorrect info where it says, in the "1973-1986: New Vrindaban" section. It says: "On 1 August 1976 Radhanath received second initiation as a brahmana from Prabhupada". 
My reasoning is:
1) Radhanath received first (harinama) initiation in 1973. Usually second initiation is given 6 months to 1 year later.
2) I was there (New Vrindaban) in the summer of 1975. Radhanath was a cook and pujari at that time, for which second initiation is required.
3) According to the Disciple Database, there are three "Radhanath das" in ISKCON: one initiated in New Vrindaban in 1973, one in Sweden in 1975 and the third in Philadelphia in 1976. So the footnote referring to Radhanath das getting second initiation from Vegavan Das is probably referring to one of the other two Radhanath das.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.77.172.118 (talk) 19:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Info in article? 

message: There are a few issues to be solved in this article before we can call it neutral.
The first issue has already been settled: we reached a consensus about how and where the murder allegations against him should be mentioned.
However, one issue remains: Radhanath Swami is seen by several major leaders within ISKCON as someone who has deviated from the philosophy teached by the founder of ISKCON. Specially his book ( Journey Home ) and his food relief programs are very often criticized. The article must register the main arguments of his philosophical opponents inside his own institution. 
This transcript from a lecture by Bhakti Vikasa Swami ( starting from page 8 ) seems to be a good starting point. ( The original lecture is available on his website ). Iamrcr (talk) 18:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: However, one issue remains: Radhanath Swami is seen by several major leaders within ISKCON as someone who has deviated from the philosophy teached by the founder of ISKCON. - are there any independent reliable sources that back up your claims? I haven't found anything. Unless such sources are found, all these discussions between ISKCON leaders have zero notability and cannot be even mentioned in a Wikipedia article.--Gaura79 (talk) 12:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality issues

message: This article contains a lot of primary source claims - such as the claim that Radhanath Sw used to do japa meditation for hours on end, or that he was studying hard, etc. etc. Sure this is very promotional, and yes, his autobiography is the autobiography of an extremely humble and enormously advanced saint who would never self-promote, I guess. But all of this is based on himself being the humble source. The book has been critized for exactly this not too subtle "holier-than-thou" message. Perhaps in order to balance this, there are repeated references to Shinn 1987 and Shin 1989 - but these references are never spelled out, which makes me wonder whether these are real references. If not, I would suggest to clean the article a little, or at least report these many wonderful claims about RS as just that: Claims, or reports, or "in his autobiography, RS reports that ..."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acaryadeva (talk • contribs) 10:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the 1989 publication by Larry Shinn. In course of his research of ISKCON in the 1980s he interviewed Radhanath Swami. In this interview Radhanath makes many of the same claimes as in his 2010 autobiography. report these many wonderful claims about RS as just that: Claims, or reports, or "in his autobiography, RS reports that ..." - yes, of cause it should be done this way, I've edited article a bit, but there's more work to do.--Gaura79 (talk) 12:40, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinn reference 

message: This entry is extremely verbiose and heavily promotional, yet at the same time neglects anything controversial (such as Radhanath Swami's being one of the few right-hand men of a convicted criminal ashram leader Kirtanananda Swami). Instead, we can read sometime in the 1970ies, Swami ate bread and butter, attended a Jimi Hendrix concert, studied hard, read books on eastern philosophy, had a discussion with Franciscan friars on Jesus, was skinny and "looked like a real hermit". If all of these 1st hand accounts are allowed in the article, othe accouts - many of them - which give witness to Swami's involvement in the murder of Sulochana dasa should be allowed, too. 
I fear that few entries on Wikipedia are as much lacking balance as this one here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acaryadeva (talk • contribs) 20:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This page really does read as something written by a religious devotee with major POV issues. I think a serious cut-down is appropriate here. Maneesh (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not an entry of a encyclopedia; it is an advertisement which reports every little detail of what Swami did in his youth. But almost nothing on his involvement in criminal acts in New Vrindavan.