Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)

message: I've been working on rewriting the plot summary, as it's overly detailed and difficult to read without any knowledge of the comic. Case in point, the plot section references "Egg Grapes" several times. This was one of the few parts I couldn't understand/rewrite with the help of context clues. Can someone tell me what an Egg Grape is supposed to be? Sergecross73 msg me  21:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Egg Grapes" 

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*: We should consider cutting or splitting the "Series and reissues" section. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and most of the section is just trivia.
*: The plot synopsis section isn't written from a neutral point of view. We shouldn't have flourishes like ellipses in the section, and it should describe events, not make you want to read it.
*: Another thing about the plot: it's way too long. Briefly summarise the premise of the stories. You don't have to include every single event that happens. Pick out the most important ones and briefly touch upon them to paint the big picture.
I'll elaborate more later. Mz7 (talk) 23:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maintenance tags 

message: Is it really necessary to keep the adaptions section on this article? It's content probably falls under the "excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience" type, and contributes to the unnecessary length and illegibility of the page. I understand it's not the biggest problem with the article, the huge plot summary being the core problem, but just because a comparatively bigger problem exists I do not feel we should ignore smaller issues.
Considering that most of these "adaptions" are so loose in fidelity to the original source material, they could be considered adaptions in name only, and most of the remaining adaptions are non-canonical short advertisements for recently released games it's unlikely this information is useful for casual readers who might be interested anyway. Since all this information can be found on more specialized sites on this subject I implore for the removal of this section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MegaMuffinMan (talk • contribs) 16:08, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptions  

message: On the subject of excessive detail and legibility, there has got to be a better way to list that content without making it so bloated and messy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MegaMuffinMan (talk • contribs) 16:16, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if the main concern is the article itself being bloated, I decided to create this page (List of Archie Comics Sonic the Hedgehog publications). Antiyonder (talk) 20:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Series and reissues

message: It feels a bit weird to me that the characters are organized into game-exclusive and comic-exclusive. The article is on the comic book series, not the games. One could argue the comic book cast has overall been featured more prominently over the book's 20 year publication history than most of the game characters, second only to Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Perhaps the article could be edited to be organized under heroes, villains, and organizations? None of the other articles on video game adaptations separate the characters into "game characters," and characters created exclusively for the spin-offs. Not even the articles on other Sonic media. Seems a bit odd that we'd do that here. It's almost reads as though the game characters have more weight in the series, despite the equal, and in some cases greater, prominence of the characters created exclusively for the comics or who carried over from the 1990s animated series.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.5.146 (talk) 04:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; my guess is that it's the way it is because physical media releases are seen as more substantive on Wikipedia than in-universe importance, with the games holding similar privilege over alternate media. No question about it, though - four out of the six original Freedom Fighters have never appeared in a game, and the ratio dwindles only further in 25YL. (It'd be hilarious if we kept it this way, but, like, Manik, Sonia, Melody, and Skye got their own section halfway between the game characters and the comic ones.) Tezero (talk) 04:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters? 

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message: Could I keep this: entire world of the book being rebooted and altered with hundreds of characters cut here, or no? — 73.47.37.131 (talk) 23:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link request! 

message: Almost immediately after I asked the anon IP at User talk:104.181.85.104 not to edit-war, and to follow WP:BRD and discuss his issues on this article's talk page, he violated WP:3RR before I had a chance to give him a 3RR warning. I ask that he restore the version before his edit-warring began. If he does not do so by the time I compile evidence to report him, this will have to go to an admin as a bright-line violation. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:04, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Undid the edit to your last version.  I still don't agree but not my wiki not my rules and I don't want you to get in trouble for going over 4 edits.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.181.85.104 (talk) 00:24, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. Now, please tell me and any other editor who comes to this talk page what edits you want to make and why. I have to tell you, edit summaries like "It's to have characters of non Human race be people which they can only do if they have Human souls. We aren't animals because of our souls not because of our form" and "despite them not being innocent creatures incapable of sin" makes it sound as if you are pushing a religious POV and reading things into the comics that you are personally interpreting. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:28, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Thank you for discussing. I appreciate all the analysis you give, and surely you realize that you're doing personal analysis and interpretation. And just as a simple grammatical and English-language point, these creatures are, objectively speaking, anthropomorphic animals. "Anthropomorphic" means "human-like." So "anthropomorphic humans" or "anthropomorphic people" makes no sense. Mickey Mouse is an anthropomorphic mouse. Bugs Bunny is an anthropomorphic rabbit. Discussion of whether they have souls is completely tangential to an encyclopedia article describing them and their fictional world. Does that make sense? I'm getting the feeling English may not be your first language? --Tenebrae (talk) 00:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit-warring anon IP

message: With the new IDW series starting next year, it doesn't necessarily make sense for the default "Sonic comics" article to be about a series no longer in circulation. I think it might be prudent to move this page to "Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie comics)", then make a separate "Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW comics)" article when that one starts up and we can start gathering sources for production information/reception/etc. Let "Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)" be a redirect until all the existing "Sonic Comics" wikilinks can be properly pointed directly to the moved page. Thoughts? -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 18:12, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: With the several series that exist, it would be most appropriate to redirect it to List of Sonic the Hedgehog printed media#Comic books, so readers can see which one they may be looking for, or better yet all of them. -DA1 (talk) 10:15, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

text: I send you the new article. Thank you so much. (Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW Publishing)) Fusionem (talk) 14:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move? 

message: From my understanding, the series has had multiple head writers over the years. At least 3 or so. Would be much more informative and appropriate to include the names of all of them with the year or issue-span in parenthesis next to the names, respectively. -DA1 (talk) 10:18, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Should we add descriptions of each issue?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Advanced Person (talk • contribs) 11:05, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No TarkusABtalk 11:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue Descriptions 

message: Why is it that there's very little about the book's publication history on the page? It's baffling that there's this huge section about the characters and the history of the book is either relegated to other pages or a heading at the beginning of this one. I would just like to have some opinions on what it can be done about it, other than editing the info in. 2804:D55:48B3:F200:693D:667:9008:906C (talk) 22:56, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the book? 

message: Character sections are generally for characters unique to the book, while most of the list are comprised of characters in other media. And the characters that are unique don't seem to have any citations for them that aren't fan sites, so I'm proposing just gutting the character section entirely. Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 09:06, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove the character section?