Talk:Kingdom Hearts II/Archive 2

message: Passion (after the battle) is an alternate version of the song to play during the ending credits of the game. This version is longer and slower than the single version, and the song mainly focuses on the vocal lyrics and a solo piano, until the last 2 minutes and 14 seconds, in which the rest of the instruments from the single version come back in. AND Passion (Orchestral), like the (after the battle) version, is very different from the (single version). The song has an extended unique introduction with full orchestra playing. After the intro ends (0:55), the song begins to play the "Passion" main melody, and a bit after the midpoint of the song, reintroduces percussion behind the melody (1:56). Lastly, near the ending (3:20), the orchestra drops the "Passion" melody to play a completely different ending all the way to the song's end. (3:40) Totally unnecessary. I propose deletion. --OneTopJob6 00:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember, there's always the main article if you want to put this stuff. Even THERE, I think it's rather dubious. --OneTopJob6 01:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unnecessary analysis

message: I'm considering requesting semi-protection for this article (which would leave it editable by most signed in users (except certain newly created accounts) but would not allow anonymous users to contribute. As most of the cruft being added seems to be from anon users, I was wondering if this might be a good idea? (Are there any anons that actually contribute good/verifiable content; are there more "good" anons than "bad" anons?) —Locke Cole 02:00, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see it being an immense problem here as it is on other articles. So, I wouldn't recommend it, nor do I think that the administrators will judge this article deserving of it. --Apostrophe 02:09, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I'm just concerned with all the reverting that people may be violating WP:3RR. And the article has already been protected in the recent past; semi-protection would likely be easier to get on this (as it's less restrictive). —Locke Cole 02:26, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a good idea. I'm tired of seeing BS info added by annonymous users. —TimeCruiserMike 8:31, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I just reverted the article to remove the English cast list AGAIN. ~3 hours before, Apocalypse reverted the article to remove said list AGAIN. And what do you know, the edit that I reverted was made 22 minutes after Apocalypse's revert! This is insanity! Semi-protection would be wonderful... >_<;; 'Ivy 09:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I semi protected the article. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 11:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: WAIT, I thought the article was semi-protected! What's going on with this recent edit war (English cast list) with anons?! --'Ivan 17:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was unprotected a few days later. I'm all for permanent semi-protection, if that's possible. Geg 17:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protection?

message: Alexa ranks:
* http://www.kh2.co.uk/ - 47,368
* http://www.kh-2.net/ - 202,357 
* http://sorasdomain.net/ - 357,667
* http://kh2.gnextreme.com/ - 2,478,126 (domain)
* http://www.ansemreport.com/ - 3,084,869
* http://www.khimpulse.net/ - 4,842,449
As you can see, all these links are not notable nor official. The article is slowly beginning to fill with them. Unless information have been used in the article coming from one of these sites that cannot be found in an official or notable one, I suggest removing them, at least the ones with Alexa rank over 100,000. -- ReyBrujo 21:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, other than the minor technicality that WP:WEB doesn't directly apply to external links (see WP:EL, though it doesn't provide any metrics for notability), I absolutely agree that external links need to be notable or not included. Alexa is a decent way to judge this IMO and your threshold (100,000) seems reasonable. Feel free to remove links that you don't feel meet that criteria (and if someone disputes a link being removed, we can debate it here). —Locke Cole • t • c 11:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am trying to get some agreement to put a limit for links, otherwise we will be finding Geocities links soon. If a low Alexa link is there because some information that can only be found there and has been used in the article, it is right to have a place in the article. I expect the amount of links to skyrocket once the game is launched in US. So, better be prepared. -- ReyBrujo 12:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

text: As someone who used to hang around the KH2 board at gamefaqs, I say remove all of them except kh2.co.uk, sorasdomain.net, and possibly ansemreport.com. Those are the sites that I can verify have somebody who knows a lot about the game running them, although ansemreport.com had some technical difficultys(total site deletion) a while ago that it never really recovered from. Snake712 02:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I'd like to know how much this game cost to produce, Out of curiosity, This game has many if not hundreds of big stars and reputatable tv actors. This must have cost a bundle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.161.241.26 (talk • contribs) .
:I will speculate, based on the idea that software is _always_ sold for profit, unless the company is going bankrupt. Amazon.jp sells the game for ￥6,150 , although the suggested retail price is ￥7,770. That is between USD 47 and 59 (if USD 1 = ￥130). A similar new game like METAL GEAR SOLID 3 SUBSISTENCE (released on the same week) sells for ￥5,900/￥7,329 . That would be USD 45-56. In other words, they raised the price USD 3 to average production costs, and/or they lowered their profit margin. How much? Who knows. -- ReyBrujo 05:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he/she's asking how much the game cost to make, not sell... --'Ivan 06:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know. I was just stating that the game isn't much more expensive than any other. If it would not make enough profit, they would have made it more expensive, or not do it at all. -- ReyBrujo 07:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production 

message: Could someone get information on this particualar World and put it on its own world's page like the other worlds. That would be appreciated. Lionheart Omega 22:25, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the city shown in Deep Dive is The World That Never Was. Soulsteelgray 23:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Look at this, I don't know who put it there. (Sora's Character Article) Specifically, it says "Eventually, Sora with the help of the Twilight Town kids (three friends of Roxas), managed to find the route of the "World that Never Was": the World of Kingdom Hearts itself." Well?--'Ivan 18:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The World That Never Was

message: All this Summon information just added doesn't describe all types of combo attacks, and implies that each summon only has one, but if more information is added, I think it will seem too much like an instruction manual. Add or revert? Zero1328 11:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Summons

message: I figured I'd source this before my edits got reverted.  Soulsteelgray 01:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English-language version of Passion: "Sanctuary"

message: Where is the tower where Sora meets Yen Sid and the fairies? In Twilight Town? Or somewhere else?
:It's in Twilight Town. Geg 19:20, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Mysterious Tower

message: There are now confirmed voice actors, according to many sources. 
http://kh2.co.uk/?kh2=Voices
There are VAs for Roxas, Namine, Aerith, Tifa, and some others. But these are CONFIRMED, so please stop erasing them from the English Voice Cast. —MumboJ 9:28, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: READ THE DISCUSSION RIGHT ABOVE. To sum: WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, WP:V, and WP:V. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 02:32, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerning voice actors

message: I have added the confirmed roles, and deleted the 'Tentative' from the title. Any roles without verification were deleted, if you don't like it feel free to revert. This information has been confirmed now, however, so deletion doesn't make much sense.
70.21.21.176 20:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice finds. That definitely constitutes as good enough confirmation, for the voices at least. Geg 22:46, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice Actors Confirmed, Multiple Sources 

message: Whoever put Christopher Lee as Xenmas, without citing an additional source, you must have gotten confused. 1up (aka EGM's website) shows him as DiZ. Fixed.
68.34.1.48 18:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lee = DiZ