Talk:The Saffron Swastika

message: this book, like most of those by Dr. Elst, does not meet wikipedia's standards of notability on books. Unless the person who started the article has some good points to make, I will merge the useful content from this page onto the main Koenraad Elst page and redirect. Hornplease 15:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The burden was on you, you did nothing for over three years, I'm deleting the tag. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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message: "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. Exercise caution when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else will probably have done so" Please note the bolded part. Darkness Shines (talk) 13:52, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The part you bolded talks about "information" as in some fact. For example, an expert's statement "that Taj Mahal is made in white marble", a fact and information, should be sourced to non-SPS. A review and thereby a view of that expert is not a information of fact that needs non-SPS. For example, Shekhar Kapur can very well call some film "rubbish" in his blog/tweet and his "view", not information, can very be written in our article with sourcing from that SPS. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 14:10, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You think a review is not information? How peculiar. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:13, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you think a review by an expert of a said subject should have been published by someone else? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 14:44, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Because if his views were noteworthy they would have been carried by an RS. The fact that they were not means his review carries no weight at all. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats wrong. We have his article on wikipedia only because his views on the subject are noteworthy. Not having been published elsewhere is no reason for not be notable. Just like how we have red links allowed. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 15:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You have that assbackwards, just because he has an article does not mean his self published views matter at all. Like I said, if his views on the book actually were of note, then those views would have been mentioned in an RS. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Again wrong! Then why do you think we have his article on wikipedia? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 15:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: We should not, he fails WP:PROF. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead and get it deleted. Unless done so, he is notable and so are his views on the subject. Reinstating the statement as you have failed to prove how it is not suitable for inclusion. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 15:50, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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