Talk:Mars/Archive 1

message: I have a problem with the statement that if colonization were to occur mars is a likely candidate. Not that it isn't a likely candidate, but it isn't the planet most like the earth. It is close, and within the habitable zone of our sun, but Venus is more similar in size and atmosphere. I changed the wording because Mars is a likely candidate for colonization, but not because it is most like Earth.
:True, but this article si not talking about whether we can move Venus to Mars' orbit. In our current situation, Mars is most like Earth, mainly because it is not a blazing inferno.  Reader12 22:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life on Mars 

message: Mars (planet) is being proposed to be moved to Mars, with reference to Mars (disambiguation) at the top.  Any objections or comments should be listed on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion. Anthony DiPierro 18:06, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The image's filesize at 580 pixels was 91 kilobytes, now it's 20 kilobytes. This is already a fairly image-heavy page so I think it's a good idea to keep them trim for the sake of modem users. With the thumbnail formatting it's obvious that there's a larger version available for the clicking so I don't think much is lost. Bryan 01:08, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

text: Thumbnailing may bring it down to a reasonable size. Also, I'd try jpegging it; if it's a version of this particular map with the same sort of smooth shading between many colours then gif is a very bad compression method to use. Bryan 01:08, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

text: http://private.addcom.de/jselk/Mars.htm says that there's also 100 ppm of NO in Mars' atmosphere, the same is stated on  German wikipedia, and there's 2.5 ppm for neon. It seems likely that there's less neon in Mars' atmosphere than in Earth's due to neons low molecular (=atomic) weight. 193.171.121.30 14:41, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename

message: the infobox on the Icelandic article is much better, you might want to use that look. --  Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   16:33, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
Why does the Icelandic article have black on black for the section headers in the info box? Ed Sanville 02:10, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  infobox 

message: The "Mars in various cultures" has two sections of only two sentences each.  I am sure this is not good wiki style.  They should be either deleted altogether, greatly expanded enough to deserve their own section, or condensed and mentioned in the introduction.
This article, though, looks very complete, with some great images.  I'm no expert, and haven't been contributing to this article --I was just reading it out of curiosity-- but you might want to consider nominating it to be a featured article.
--Dmcdevit 23:52, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mars in various cultures 

message: User:Wonglokking recently deleted a bunch of the intro to the Mars article. I agree that much of that was background info that didn't need to be in the intro, but it still should be in the article someplace. I suggest someone more familiar with Mars and this article take a look at the edits and please move the deleted text to an appropriate section in the article. BlankVerse ∅ 08:39, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Wonglokking]]'s edits 

message: In the atmosphere section it is stated that "68 degrees Farenheit is about as hot as it gets".
I have two objections to this:
- The max surface temperature can be found in the sidebar.
- Why Fahrenheit?
Sundae 15:50, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atmosphere 

message: Jouni edited my summary of this image, wishing it to be validated: the image was taken by me on my computer which runs a television card, the programme was BBC tv's The Sky at Night, 2nd October 2005.
As pointed out to me, this picture is different from previous images taken by Spirit, if anyone else saw the programme, or sees a repeat, please reference it. The BBC website does have an archive of the programmes, but it's only up to August. Alf melmac 20:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like computer model of Mars surface then real picture. --Li-sung 22:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is just a vertically stretched image from Spirit's panorama.--Jyril 12:52, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, Sol 11. As vertically stretched it looks awfully. --Li-sung 00:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Martian mountains image

message: I have added a bit about Jonathan Swift's book Gulliver's Travels, which mentions there being 2 moons, even though they weren't discovered until 150 years later! I found out about this from the book Intelligent Life in the Universe by Carl Sagan and I.S. Shklovskii. They also mention that Voltaire echoed the Laputans discovery in his book Micromegas.Blaise 20:43, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gulliver's Travels

message: Dear NASA,
Why not send weather satellites to Mars?  Then we could put them on TV, for a Mars Weather Channel akin to the current (Earth) Weather Channel.  I'm sure lots of people would be interested to see up-to-the-minute pictures and video of Mars.  oneismany 11:42, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this a joke? --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 12:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Daily dust and temperature maps of Mars.  Close enough? -- Kazrak 14:47, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently it's a bit limited.  Why not devote TV time to extraterrestrial landscapes, or for that matter, terrestrial landscapes?  I would definitely tune in to a channel with live coverage of the Grand Canyon, or the Himalayas, for example.  Why not the Moon?  Or Mars?  Or any planet?  Or any planet's moon?  oneismany 11:02, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there's . Better? -- Kazrak 09:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fantastic, but it's hardly as exhaustive of Mars as Earth satellites are of Earth.  And it's just a single planet.  How many planets and major asteroids or moons are there out there?  Humankind has gazed up at the planets and stars from Earth's surface for millions of years.  Now, we can gaze at the planets up close!  We could even gaze back at outselves from the other planets!  This fact is so exhilerating that we should go beyond just thinking about it and make it happen.   oneismany 10:17, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dear NASA

message: The PDF map gets shown at full-size in Safari.  That's about 2000 pixels by 1000 pixels shown as an inline image.  This is, shall we say, suboptimal.  Is there any way we can thumbnail this thing?  -- Kazrak 09:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Big Honkin' Map

message: I've rewritten the section on the "ice lake" found by ESA, which lacked citations for its assertions, which are not, in my opinion, reflected by the scientific facts. As noted in ESA's announcement, there is a height difference of 200 meters. The previous version asserted that the ice patch is a "thin layer of frost that has condensed onto dark, cold sand dunes (about 200 m high)". ESA, on the other hand, states that the height difference cannot be solely attributed to the ice sheet, and that it is probably and mostly due to the dunes beneath. These are clear qualifiers of uncertainty, and therefore, the bold assertion that we're dealing with a "thin layer of frost" (!) does not appear supportable to me. From ESA's own report, it seems more supportable that we are in fact dealing with an unusually thick ice patch. 
I've also rephrased the bits about the BBC allegedly "sensationalizing" the story, which were unsourced. It appears to be true that no scientist has referred to this structure as a "lake", however.
If there has been any qualified scientific commentary about this, I'd like to see some more sources added to this section.--Eloquence* 02:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ice lake section 

message: I removed the huge table of (basically incomprehensible) numbers from the article.  It is a highly specialized dataset in which only a very few readers could have an interest (certainly none of the casual ones). Wikipedia isn't just an infodump, and this article could already stand some trimming. —ZorkFox 02:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of occulted stars