Talk:Murmur (album)

message: I restored the "citation needed" tag to this statement because if I understand what's being asserted, I disagree. By the time of Murmur's release, the Clash had released 5 albums; Elvis C. had released his first 5 albums; Talking Heads had released their first 4, and X had released at least 3. Many of those records, just for starters, got plenty of attention and notice in lots of places. What mainstream press is this sentence talking about? If the American music press, it's plainly untrue. If the non-music press, I still question it.Cloonmore (talk) 12:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Clash, Elvis Costello, and Talking Heads aren't alternative rock artists. X didn't become one until the mid-80s. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not alternative rock?? Further proof that Wikipedia's popular music genre tags are largely meaningless and usually unhelpful.Cloonmore (talk) 02:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Alternative rock is generally considered to have emerged in the early 1980s, after the punk and New Wave/post-punk explosions. R.E.M was one of the formative bands. WesleyDodds (talk) 02:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but I was there, and I'd disagree. If anything, many at the time viewed REM as retro folk-rock. In any event, if you want to contend that Talking Heads or The Clash weren't "alternative rock", be my guest, but, again, it just demonstrates the uselessness of the term. Cloonmore (talk) 02:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it demonstrates perceptions throughout history have changed. "Alternative" didn't mean much as a genre term until the late 80s; at the start of the 80s it was synonymous with "underground". Now that the genre is more or less defined, alternative rock largely began with R.E.M. and goth. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a genre; it's a record company marketing & radio format term. It doesn't describe the music; it describes a demographic. It adds nothing to a reader's understanding of the music.  In any event, the vague sentence in question needs a cite or a rewrite.Cloonmore (talk) 20:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "one of the first alternative rock albums to gain attention in the mainstream press"

message: As an editor at Crawdaddy!, and to comply with COI guidelines, I am not posting the link to this review of the 25th anniversary reissue of Murmur. However, I would like to recommend it on its merits, and hope that an editor will find the time to examine the review and—if he or she sees fit—post it as a professional review or external link on this page. I appreciate your time. Crawdaddy! (favorable) Mike harkin (talk) 23:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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message: The lyrics of "Talk About the Passion" include "combien, combien, combien de temps" twice and "combien reaction" (which is only half in French anyway) also twice. Is that handful of words really enough to justify including French in the 'language' section of the album infobox? Even with the included brackets indicating it is just from that one song, I think that drastically overplays things.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.169.37.118 (talk) 09:37, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. (I have nothing to add to the argument above.)  Fantailfan (talk) 20:28, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language: English/French 

message: I don't get it. The album spent some weeks on the billboard 200. Then the pop album charts: it reached only the top 40 but according to Billboard.com the album was one of the top 100 best seller of the year.
Meaning it was among the best selling albums in the us 1983. 
But why it was certified Gold in 1991 ?
That means the album had been shipped less than 500,000 copies to reach the top 100 of the best selling year end albums ?
Did album sales so low at that time that an album could have sold under 500,000 copies to reach the year end album charts ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.111.57.236 (talk • contribs) 12:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales? Shipments ? Strange

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message: Don Dixon – co-producer, additional acoustic guitars,[38] bass guitar on "Perfect Circle"
Mitch Easter – co-producer, additional acoustic guitars, backwards guitar on "Perfect Circle"
These guys co-produced and were co-producer's of the songs and this song "Perfect Circle" in particular. But they did NOT provide acouistic guitars, bass, backwards guitar or otherwise to said track. I have the original L.P. I should know. Now if you don't mind I would like to fix this correction. Thank-you.
:But this is sourced information. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:52, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
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message: "Due to Peter Buck's Fender Twin Reverb electric guitar being "dead", every song except 'Pilgrimage' featured Easter's Ampeg Gemini II."
The Fender Twin Reverb and Ampeg Gemini II are both amplifier/speaker combos, not guitars. Perhaps this should be checked and corrected? Dirk gb (talk) 08:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar or amplifier?