Talk:Orange Line (MBTA)

message: Maps are needed to compare the Washington Street Elevated routing and stops with the Southwest Corridor routing and stops, and to compare the Charlestown Elevated routing and stops with the Haymarket North Extension routing and stops. -- Beland 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map requests 

message: Does anyone have photos of the old elevated sections?  Service continued into the 1980s and 1970s, respectively.  Dogru144 13:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos of Washington and Charlestown elevated sections

message: mentions a third express track from Wellington to Community College.  Perhaps this article should mention it, and talk about why it was built and how it was intended to be used.  (It apparently has been used for testing new Blue Line cars recently, but I doubt that is why it was built.)  JNW2 (talk) 00:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was built as an express to be used when the line was to be extended all the way to Reading. That way there wouldn't be a long commute time. I doubt that we can find many sources on it since newspapers pre-1980 are hard to come by. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Express Track

message: It would be more accurate to take these times in the table from the published schedule, not from the distance between stations. -- Beland (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to Downtown Crossing 

message: Should I make a route map using the Rail Icons for this route? --NYCTrainFan (talk) 21:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly. Could you show me an example of what it would look like/what you would change? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry this has taken so long, I've been extremely busy. I've posted the example on my user page. CLICK HERE  NYCTrainFan (talk) 01:12, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks pretty good. Have you done a lot of these? What is the rule of thumb for detail? I mean the legend has a ton of options including highways crossings, bridges, tunnels, etc.. State is also a major station so it should be large as well. State and Downtown Crossing make up the "inbound" destinations of the trains. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:27, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done a few. I haven't taken the time to look at Google maps to put in highways and waterways and all that other stuff. I'll fix State right now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYCTrainFan (talk • contribs) 12:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route Map? 

message: The current route map that shows the former Charlestown and Washington Street elevateds is neat, but confusing. The historical routes look like branches, rather than separated by time.
I'd like to make a pretty radical change to the template. I propose making the main template a representation of the Orange Line in its current state, without the former elevated sections. I'd then like to make a series of historical templates - one with all three elevateds (including Atlantic Ave) from 1901 to 1938ish, a second one until 1954 with the Charlestown and Washington elevateds, then a third until 1987 with only the Washington El. This would eliminate confusion in the current template (which doesn't even show the Atlantic Ave route), and provide for a series of maps that would illustrate the history of the Orange Line (just stick them side by side in a new section in the article). 
I'm willing to do the major work on this; I would put the old-route templates up first then modify the main one to minimize disruption. I can do it this weekend or before, but I'd like to see if there's consensus. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:34, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea. I can't wait to see what you come up with! Grk1011 (talk) 03:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Whew, finally got a chance to finish these. Take a look, and let me know if there's any errors, or correct them yourself. Once I'm satisfied with their accuracy, then we'll need to decide whether to place them side-by-side in a section in the main Orange Line article, or give them their own article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Replaced the main infobox template per user page discussion; will start working on a side-by-side solution for all 5 for later in the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to route map 

message: I have formatting all set for the five historical route diagram templates; it can be viewed here. My preference is to put it in the article itself just before the station listing, but I could accept it as a standalone page. Thoughts? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:35, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collected route diagram templates 

message: The route maps are very nice, but strangely omit any mention of the Green Line transfer points (at both Haymarket and North Station), while showing connections to the Red and Blue Lines appropriately.  Also, in the infobox, the word "Legend" is repeated twice.  I would fix them, but I'm afraid of breaking the maps.  Much thanks go to User:Pi.1415926535 for his extensive route map work, as well as the many well-composed photos he has been contributing to Wikimedia Commons, allowing an upgrade of the MBTA articles' quality and visual appeal. --Reify-tech (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take a crack tonight. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some nasty formatting issues, especially with the Causeway El. Will have these up eventually. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep plugging away, the diagrams look great when you finish, and really help make the system understandable. --Reify-tech (talk) 23:20, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got one possibility on the 75-87 template. Not sure if I like it. Might try to switch to a straight-through style. North Station is going to be a major problem on the newest template, what with two logos (intercity rail + commuter rail) and three wikilinks (Green Line, Amtrak/Downeaster, Commuter Rail). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route map fixes 

message: I believe that Haymarket North Extension should be merged into the main Orange Line article. This cam up during the discussions at Talk:Green Line (MBTA)#Re-split about the merging and splitting of the Green Line Extension. As the Haymarket North Extension is not its own line, and is only an extension of a currently line, I do not feel it warrants it's own article.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Somehow the line diagrams omit North Station and list Anderson RTC instead. Anderson RTC is in Woburn, which makes that route an impressive feat of spatial distortion.
Seriously, I looked through the markup and it doesn't mention Anderson at all, while it does have North Station listed in the right place. However, the Read view says Anderson RTC.
Could someone who knows what they're doing check this out? Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.17.205.153 (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks to have been a bug in . I've now fixed it. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line diagram omits North Station? 

message: Better sources, but that mostly illustrates the differences between "better" and "good."  Sanborn has some standing, and this is early enough his later disability isn't a factor...but it's from 1992, and it's listed as "trivia."  Trivia lists are notorious for folklore and back-formation, even...no, especially...within an organization; compare the tripe about flags ang flagpoles among soldiers. This was supposedly a memnonic, so it should have been publicized contemporaneously.Anmccaff (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Here, BTW, is the Sanborn "reference":  Folklore if ever I saw it, and the whole Trivia section suggests a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek.  Anmccaff (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  (official MBTA and pre-wiki sources) 

message: *Condense "History" section
*Source any easily disputed material
*Make sure information is factual
- Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Things to do:

message: Becuase the new Orange and Red Line trains are coming out and it’s the same stock on both lines someone should create a new article about the new trains. RedProofHill123 (talk) 17:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As you've already been told on the Green Line talk page, there is likely no need for an article. If you want to create a properly reference and well-written draft, be my guest, but don't make broken and poorly referenced edits here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New train article  

message: I'm wondering if the article would be improved by geographically accurate maps showing the difference between the Charlestown Elevated alignment and the current north end of the line, as well as a similar map for the Washington Street Elevated vs the Southwest Corridor. The article discusses the differences (especially for the southern change and how is spawned the Washington Street Silver Line), but this is a place where "show, don't tell" would be a major enhancement to comprehensibility to readers unfamiliar with Boston geography, especially its rather irregular street layout. The route diagrams list the changes in stations, but give no sense of geographic scale of distances. oknazevad (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, maps would definitely be good. Making maps for all the MBTA lines in GIS (including former configurations where relevant) is on my very long to-do list. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic maps showing changes? 

message: Why did the new CRRC trains replace the older 01200 series? Clrichey (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They were over 40 years old and past their 'useful' life. Too expensive to maintain, etc. Grk1011 (talk) 13:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement reasons?