Talk:Fender Twin Reverb

message: I revamped a rather skeletal new article, added some technical info etc. I will eventually expand this as time permits, for such a popular amp it should have a proper article. Anyone who wants to jump in and help please do so. Tremspeed 08:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revamp 

message: The Twin Reverb amplifier has not been in production since 1953 (inaccurate!).  The Twin amplifier has been,  but the Twin of 1953-55 was radically different than the Twin Reverb.  There was no reverb, there was no tremolo, it was a wide panel tweed, the circuit was radically different and the tube compliment was different (6L6s were used, but they were cathode biased and all the preamp tubes were different).  Thus, the comparison of the tweed models to the blackface and silverface models is inaccurate.
The Blackface Twin Reverb was the first amp designated the "Twin Reverb" due to the inclusion of the reverb circuit, made from 1963-1967.
The article states the blackface era of Fender was 1965-1967.  As stated prior, the beginning was 1963.
There is no citation for the claim of the Twin Reverb being Fender's most popular amplifier.
There is no citation for the claim that the amplifier is known for its high quality reverb.
66.81.188.242 07:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  inaccuracies 

message: Although they are different circuits and the reverb units obviously sport reverb, I think that these are still the same product family and should be collected together in the same article.  It seems kind of arbitrary to draw a line just because they added a reverb tank. The Fender Amp Field Guide agrees with me. Steve CarlsonTalk 06:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Fender Twin]] 

message: I'll disagree with the assertion that the Twin-Amp and the Twin Reverb-Amp should be the in the same article. The Twin Reverb circuit is the "AB 763" which it shares with many other Fender Amps. It is a completely different design in almost all respects from the "Twin-Amp": the input section, tone controls, phase inverter and negative feedback, tremolo operating principle, power supply and tube voltages.  The addition of reverb, of course, is an obvious change- its circuit exactly the same in all other "AB 763" amps. 
Later silver-face models are an evolution of the AB763. The "Twin Reverb-Amp" and the others which used the AB 763 circuit  defined an era in Fender Amp history. A good reference is: A Desktop Reference of Hip Vintage Guitar Amps by Gerald Weber, Kendrick books, 1994. 
:The AB763 is actually several different circuit with and without reverb.  I know.  I own a 1966 AB763 Showman.  It sounds like you just have an (understandable) bias in favor of a particular version.  You're allowed, but it has nothing to do with this article.  I have the latter book and will pull some references if/when I get a chance.  Maybe you'd like to write a breakout article about pre-reverb Twins? Micahmedia (talk) 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll second a motion to merge the two articles, on the grounds that things like the Ford Mustang and Apple Macintosh are summed up on a page each.  More information, if deemed significant, can be included in detailed break out articles.  Maybe a history of circuit design changes in a separate article?  I'm a picky nerd who can tell the difference by ear between tweed, blackface, silverface...but I believe there is a traceable lineage that makes sense in the context of a single article, that would help someone unfamiliar with the subject grasp the main ideas.  Micahmedia (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Fender Twin]] 

message: There is a common misconception that the Red Knob Twin "The Twin" is the same thing as the Evil Twin. It is not. 
The Red Knob Twin was built from 87 until 94 and had red pointer knobs only in the first half of production period. Then there were the red knob twins that actually sported black pointer knobs. They are referred to as red knob twins nonetheless. http://www.ampwares.com/amp.asp?id=116
The Evil Twin "The Twin Amp" is still in production since 1995. http://www.ampwares.com/amp.asp?id=118
Additionally, since 1992 there is the '65 Reissue "Twin Reverb"  http://www.ampwares.com/amp.asp?id=117 and recently the Tweed Twin Reissue "'57 Twin Amp" - not sure when it was introduced. 
This is the understanding of most guys at http://www.fenderforum.com as well
Jergn (talk) 10:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evil Twin vs. Red Knob Twin