Talk:Reprogenetics

message: I'm suspious that this word, a neologism invented in 1997, has not sufficiently caught on for Wikipedia to have an article about it.  Where has Dr. Silver's book been reviewed?  Who else now uses the term?  How often has it appeared in print, and in what sources?  I'm not putting this up for AfD at the moment, because I think these may be answerable questions, but the are very important issues, and I would urge the main authors(or anyone who wishes) to find and add some sourced mentions of the word and reviews of Dr. Silver's book to the article, to beef up the appearence of notability.  Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:39, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Remaking Eden was a bestseller (has even been reprinted in a wonderfully tacky "airport book" format) and the word is currently used in the literature on bioethics. Google Print has at least 20 other books which reference the term in its database, and Google Scholar shows it in well over 120 different articles. I think it certainly satisfies Wikipedia notability requirements.--Fastfission 23:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Great; I'll look into verfiying and formatting these facts for inclusion into the article.  Thanks for the quick response. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability sources? 

message: Added a paragraph, because the article seems a bit lopsided. Would it help to give a neutral definition first of what it is, then a separate section on Silver's critique of it, then one on critiques of Silver? I'd also like to mention a familiar argument but can't find a source. A: "You shouldn't be able to use reprogenetics." B: "My family's got sickle cell/Tay-Sachs/etc.; I want to avoid having a sick kid." A: "Then you shouldn't breed." The Silver-style argument against reprogenetics is itself an argument for legally-imposed eugenics! Hence my comment on framing the issue in terms of reproductive freedom. --Kris Schnee 16:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed your paragraph since it is simply repeating the second paragraph of the criticisms section (Did you click on the link called parental obligation?). However, we could improve the latter. --Loremaster 17:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Improving the article

message: "Towards the end of Silver's book he speculates that the GenRich and the "Naturals" could, over time, even become separate species, unable to interbreed. However, Silver now accepts the criticism made by evolutionary biologists that speciation cannot occur without reproductive isolation and is therefore unlikely to happen." I think it has recently been proven that speciation does occur in non-isolated populations, there was sth about it in "nature" (two species of fishes in a mexican lake). Perhaps s.o. more apt than me could do some research? Tillalb 12:31, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Were the two species of fishes unable to interbreed? The reason I ask is because I wonder whether or not the word "species" and "speciation" is being used too loosely. I may be wrong but it seems that Silver thinks that the inability to interbreed will be the clear boundary between humanity and posthumanity. --Loremaster 17:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they were. I just found the article - it was Nicaragua, not Mexico :)
nature article --Tillalb 21:17, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. We need to research this more. --Loremaster 19:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Speciation

message: This article currently says that the "Remaking Eden" book is 1997, however this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_M._Silver (second paragraph, first sentence) seems to say that the book is 1998. Vulpecular (talk) 15:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year confusion for the book "Remaking Eden".