Talk:Marshal of France

message: I plan on taking on the Capetian Marshals of France when I go back to college in October, if no-one has done anything about them before. Supersheep 16:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to some he was offered the rank in 1946, but refused it. The reason may be that he considered himself as a statesman and not a soldier at that time, but that is only a personal speculation from my side. Carl Logan 18:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 

message: Not sure if I overlooked some obscure function of the genitive case, but in 'Terror belli, decus pacis', belli and pacis look like ordinary genitives of bellum and pax respectively. I see no reason why this should not be translated to 'Terror of war, ornament of peace', but maybe I am wrong. Rajakhr (talk) 04:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin Check 

message: Discrepancy between this page and the linked, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulevards_of_the_Marshals 
Pérignon is banned from memory according to this page but has a street named after him according to the latter. Seems this page is inaccurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.252.172.196 (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pérignon's street 

message: About the "refusal" of the title of Marshal of France by Charles de Gaulle, I think there isn't a refusal, because the title was NEVER properly offered to De Gaulle.
De Gaulle killed the demarches about the matter before any positive action be taked, as told by Jean Lacouture in "De Gaulle 2 - The Ruler, 1945-1970", pg.128:
"The situation of Charles de Gaulle, mythically a general to all eternity, but legally a retired colonel, was odd enough to be posing the government certain problems, including some of a bureaucratic type. It was Edmond Michelet, the most faithful of all his followers, who was “his minister” in charge of the armed forces. He asked de Gaulle how they were to settle the General’s “situation in the army”, a situation that, according to the minister, “President Gouin naturally wants to be as high as possible”. Marshal of France, a title so closely associated with Pétain, and his inferiors? Four days later, Michelet received one of the most implacable, if stinging, letters ever written by the General. 
My dear Minister, 
(...) Since 18 June 1940 - the date on which I gave up my responsibilities and set out in a rather unusual direction - the events that have taken place have been of such a nature and of such a dimension that it would be impossible to “regularize” a situation absolutely without precedent. Indeed, there has been no need whatever to change anything in that situation during the five years, seven months and three days of a very great trial. Any “administrative solution” that one might try to apply to it today would, therefore, take on a strange, even ridiculous character. The only course that measures up to the situation is to leave things as they are. One day, death will take it upon itself to smooth over the difficulty, if there still is one."
So, de Gaulle never "refused" the title of Marshal of France, only prevented the possibility of that title be given to him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 191.250.198.163 (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the "refusal" of the title of Marshal of France by Charles de Gaulle 

message: This article states that the court did not have the authority to strip Pétain of his distinction as Marshal of France due to it being granted through an Act of Parliament. However, there are no citations given in this section to support this assertion. Beyond that, the article for Philippe Pétain specifically says that the court stripped him of all military honors and ranks, including the distinction of Marshal of France, when he was convicted of treason. So one of these two articles is wrong, and I don't have access to the source cited in Pétain's page to verify its claim. Does anybody have a source that supports the claim in this article about Pétain retaining this title after his treason conviction? Ovenel (talk) 03:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pétain and Treason Conviction