Talk:Men in feminism

message: These sections are clearly POV as they give the "profeminist" viewpoint the last word, a privilege which is not given to any other viewpoint in this article.  This problem was identified in 2008, but it was not fixed.  These sections should be deleted or collected together and merged into the profeminist section.  Since this article has longstanding POV issues which have not been addressed, I'll deal with them soon if no one else does. Equaaldoors (talk) 02:18, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added POV Tags to "Profeminist responses to XYZ" 

message: I feel that the Men's liberation's engagement with XYZ sections are digressions from the main topic of "Men and feminism" and probably should be removed or incorporated in the the men's liberation article.  Similarly the "Men confronting XYZ" sections (where XYZ = a feminist issue/area of interest) probably should be removed or moved to their respective articles. Equaaldoors (talk) 06:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  They belong on their main articles, not here. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 06:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Men's liberation's engagement with XYZ 

message: Every, and I literally mean every, English dictionary establishes that anyone of any race or gender can be a Feminist (as long as they are activists for, support or promote Feminism and equality for women).
There is not a single dictionary that declares only women can be Feminists.
Men, by definition, can (and are) Feminists.
To even question this, let alone ignore it, in the article defies every single source that defines the word. 106.69.58.102 (talk) 12:23, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a specific section or line in this article that you take issue with that you could point to so it can be discussed specifically?  AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 12:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can men be Feminists? This isn't even up for debate. Yes they can be. 

message: While I do think many Men's Rights groups are anti-feminist I don't believe this is always true and therefore should be moved out of the Anti-Feminist response section. For example a lawyer attempting to make it easier for a father to get there children in a divorce court case is not necessarily an anti-feminist. A person advocating for the ability for men to be able to show emotion in public should not be labeled anti-feminist. I'm not saying that Men's Rights groups aren't ever anti-feminist. Heaven's no. But it isn't necessarily that way.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 02:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agree with you about the idea that Men's Rights groups are not really anti-feminist. People tend to determine the issues one way or another. In other words, getting to the point of Men's Rights, it has to come with anti-feminist, and no other way around. Like people said, life is either black and white, but we still have something called gray in the between. -Kuno1126 (talk) 22:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Men's Right and Anti-Feminism 

message: Hi there! I'm thinking about adding a section on some of the recent celebrity culture around feminism, specifically the men. Men who participated in the women's march, Justin Trudeau, the "This is what a feminist looks like" campaign and maybe some of the gender pay gap solutions happening in Hollywood. I don't want to throw the balance of the page off by adding too much to the the pro-feminist sub-section, but I'm not familiar enough with anti-feminism in celebrity culture to balance this out in its own section. Just wanted to give a heads up! I won't be undoing anyone's work, but it might look a little wonky for a day or two while I edit it down into a proper synopsis. 
Also I noticed there's not a lot of talk on this page so I thought I would say hi and let you know to poke me for anything! HelloStarling (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feminism, men and celebrity culture 

message: hello, so I have added some information to the history of men and feminism ( not a lot), but I thought it would be helpful and colourful. I will be around if there any questions.Joshydkz (talk) 01:40, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  On History of men and feminism 

message: The way that this article is framed, it's very misleading and even incredibly biased.  For the most part, the Men's movementalready has a separate page, and it already points out that "Major movements within the men's movement include the men's liberation movement, profeminist men's movement, mythopoetic men's movement, men's rights movement, and the Christian men's movement, most notably represented by the Promise Keepers."  Meanwhile, this page makes no mention of namely the gay and bisexual men who identify as feminists, aside and transgender people, or queers.  It emphasizes the men's movement in these other contexts while excluding the LGBTQ, as well as even straight men who support women's issues.  For the most part, the "Men's movement" has been a different thing, and I think that most "feminist men" — as opposed to "men n feminism" — would expect something else from this article.  Just the title of this article itself seems rather awkward.  Most men who identify as feminists don't say "Men in feminism".  They just say "I'm a feminsist".  Also, a gay man identifying as a "feminist" is different than a gay man saying he's part of the "men's movement"... probably because there aren't many of the later.  
Most LGBTQ feminists are not going to join a men's rights movement that's associated with the Christian men's movement, and the Promise Keepers.  That's although, LGBTQ people can certainly be faithful and practicing Christians.  It's just that many people know that there are many sects that are anti-liberation for LGBTQ people, as much as many other aspects of women's liberation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.202.143.106 (talk) 06:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias of the Men's Movement versus Feminist Men & LGBTQ Feminism 

message: — Assignment last updated by Sqygkiwi (talk) 18:14, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
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