Talk:Toll roads in Great Britain

message: I can see very little reference here to toll roads outside of England.
Can someone add to it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardeast (talk • contribs) 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  United Kingdom or England? 

message: I am happy with the outcome of the various moves.  Great Britain strictly refers to an island, comprising England, Scotland and Wales, so that the objection to referring to UK before it existed (and its extent as including all Ireland in 1801-1922 does not arise).  If we need a "Toll roads in Ireland", it can be created as a separate article.  Since the section on England and Wales is a parent to more detailed articles, this does not need to be expanded (or not much), but the "Scotland" section remains poor and I have tagged it as a stub.  I have just expanded the "recent" section to bring in toll bridges, with a link to a separate article on this.  There is a category, :Category:Toll bridges in the United Kingdom, which should perhaps be better linked in too.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title and scope 

message: Why no mention of toll tunnels?  And shouldn't this article be about the UK, the country, not Great Britain, the island? IainUK talk 17:39, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added the Tyne Tunnel (and some others). PeterEastern (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyne Tunnel, Mersey Tunnel... 

message: Having now read the above discussions, can I suggest it would be more sensible to have two separate articles?  One detailing the current state of toll roads in the United Kingdom, and another which details the history of toll roads on the island, if that is indeed of historic encyclopaedic interest. Either way, I do think some mention of toll tunnels should be included. IainUK talk 17:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have adjusted the lead and content so that this article now covers both the current state and the history, (which is also what the title suggests it might do). I have also created a link to a new article on Road pricing in the United Kingdom which will focus on all the politics around charging for road space in congested areas. It may however be appropriate to bring these two articles together in due course. For now I will try to avoid duplication. PeterEastern (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a general article.  GB is an appropriate scope, because there are no road links with Ireland.  We already hve two more detailed hisotrical articles - Turnpike trust and pavage.  It is appropriate for this article to cover all periods.  The new Road pricing in the United Kingdom is a welcome addition on the current situation.  I would however suggest that the list of current toll roads/bridges/tunnels should come much later in the article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have switched the history and 'current' sections as per your suggestion. I do think also agree that GB does seem to be the natural scope for an article about roads and road tolls. Possibly the new Road pricing in the United Kingdom article should be moved to Road pricing in Great Britain? PeterEastern (talk) 04:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  I suspect the Northner Ireland governement has not introduced Road Pricing, so that a GB focus would be appropriate.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:14, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: However... the HGV road user charging system being proposed by the coalition government at the moment talks about the UK and section 39 of the main pdf consultation document states "In Northern Ireland, the Driver and Vehicle Agency could administer the user charge as DVLA’s agent (as it currently does with VED). Or DVLA may bring both activities in-house". As such it seems that UK is the right title even if it doesn't have much sense! PeterEastern (talk) 22:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current tolls and history of tolls 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathampton_Toll_Bridge
this is missing - I went over it today    one pound charge normally
last time I edited something a sort of sheriff's badge appeared & gave me a warning so am nervous about saying anything 2A00:23C6:9D0E:1501:2232:4104:AF38:8F81 (talk) 22:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toll Bridge by Bath