Talk:Carl Cameron

message: See  and note the IP address which points to Fox news, intentionally removing documented information from Wiki that is unbecoming. 
:Would you please sign your remark ? Would you also, please explain why you think this sorry piece of junk of an article complies  with WP:BLP ? Does your proposed revert really improve in this regard ? Wefa 21:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since nobody tries to own up top this crap, I'll at least try to give it some proper structure. Wefa 12:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page has been sanitized by employees of Fox News 

message: I'm hearing he was fired from Fox after he tried to perform an ongoing investigation into the Israeli Mossad spies in America that appeared to have had foreknowledge of the 911 attacks.  Would anyone dare to clear up WHY he was fired from Fox here?  Just curious. Cowicide 14:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: interesting issue. Is there any quotable writeup about the Israeli Art Students controversy that substantially details Cameron's journalistic involvement ? Wefa 13:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

text: here is an article written by freelance journalist Christopher Ketcham in 2007 originally for Salon who passed on it right before it was meant to go on their website. Later it was slated to be published by Nation but they pulled it at the last minute as well so it wound up being in CounterPunch. The source he quotes at Fox News is unnamed and states they sat down with the ADL and agreed to take down the story if they agreed to stop bugging them about it (apparently they were getting a lot of spam messages because of the story that and it crashed a server). They did not agree to post a follow-up retracting it. That might be too dodgy of a source to consider it for inclusion, but there was no fabrication on Cameron's part nor did he lose his job over it obviously. Ryal-oh (talk) 19:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was he canned from Fox? 

message: An anonymous user changed the article to claim Cameron were born "Karl Lamberg" and later changed his name to Cameron. Only reference given is a highschool web site that has Cameron's enail address listed as the contact for a "Karl Lamberg". Given the author is anonymous and this could be easily faked or be a prank I'll revert it. If anybody can cite better sources on this and wants to add his name to that we should discuss putting it in again. Wefa 00:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Change?

message: I'll remove the diminuitive qualifications from the critique section. The references given provide exact info who levels those criticism, and injecting them (especially in that form) in the text only serves to devalue them, which would be POV. I also dislike the tons of generic links inserted into the article by the same user, and have asked him to explain here via his talk page. Wefa (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we have not seen any reaction, I'll remove the worst offenders in this regard now Wefa (talk) 01:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV edit

message: The chapter "Conflict of interest" (added by user:76.114.85.60) contains criticism without citing a source for the criticism. While such criticism, if made quotably elsewhere, might be appropriately mentioned here, this here seems to be original research. What do you think ? I'm currently inclined to remove that paragraph again.Wefa (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: An anonymous  Comcast user, probably from the Boston area, removed the whole criticism section. I reverted both his edits Wefa (talk) 19:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism notices

message: I added "fact" tags to the paragraph in the alleged bias secition about how conservatives dislike Cameron. This is completely unsourced. Given the recent debate I consider it possible that such allegations might have been made, but in a biographic article, there should be more substance. Please insert quotations for the factual claims that he did such reporting, its content has been refuted and he had had only anonymous sources. Folks, please remember WP:BLP Wefa (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation Needed tags

message: I'm thinking abourt removing the praise praragraph Thomore inserted. It is not really correctly sourced (citing selected praise quotes from someone's PR Bio isn't exactly reliable sourcing) and reads like an advertisement. Furthermore it is not correctly sorted under Criticism and I don't really see a good place to put such data into an article. So I plan to remove it. Comments? Suggestions? What do you think? Wefa (talk) 03:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It definitely needs to be moved at a minimum. I agree with you about the sourcing. Not exactly an unbiased source. On the other hand, the statement correctly attributes where the praise is coming from. Maybe we should start a praise section. I would recommend putting it in it's own section above the criticism section. It would be better to find quoteable sources that the Fox bio is referencing as opposed to using the third party quotes from the Fox bio. I'll leave it up to you. Just throwing around some ideas. Sperril (talk) 00:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, that still doesn't win a price for editorial beauty, but it's better than before. Still, it leaves ample room for improvement. Fox should be kicked and screamed at for not providing any useful links for those quotes. Wefa (talk) 02:56, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Praise Paragraph

message: Re your other comments. This article shouldn't be tightened, it should be expanded. Unfortunately, Cameron's life and heritage seems to be an enigma. You find barely anthing about him; it is not even clear if Cameron is his birth name (some anonymous editor claimed him to be the son of noted Harvard Archeologist C.C. Lamberg-Karlovsky, a theory which is as good as any and which fits with his Iran year). But there is nothing even remotely quotable about him. So... to really improve this article you should find more stuff about the subject, not shrink it down until it is stub again. Wefa (talk) 04:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted on the BLP board. As long as the "more stuff" is from reliable sources and not undue weight, then ok. when I talk about "tightening" I am referring to have better citations. Anyways, --Tom (talk) 04:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: tightening or not?

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