Talk:Language policies of Francoist Spain

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Language politics in Francoist Spain were based on Spanish nationalism. Only Spanish was official, the usage of the rest was discouraged as minor "dialects".
A sample for this usage -still widespread in the 70's and later- could be following quote in  , from an (sadly unnamed) school book from 1939
 «-¿Se habla en España otras lenguas más que la castellana? 
 
 «-Puede decirse que en España se habla sólo la lengua castellana, pues aparte de ésta tan sólo se habla vascuence que, como la lengua única, sólo se emplea en algunos caseríos vascos y quedó reducido a funciones de dialecto por su pobreza lingüística y filológica. 
 
 »-.¿Cuáles son los dialectos principales que se hablan en España?
-Los dialectos principales que se hablan en España son cuatro: el catalán, el valenciano, el mallorquín y el gallego.»''
To us, a quote like this looks -to be mild- a little bit outlandish, but mirrors almost exactly a -till recently- common usage in France (see Language policy in France).
It also has to be noted that during the XIX century and even later, sentences similar to this, were a "watermark" of liberal thinking (or even republican, f.i. Alejandro Lerroux's following ).
:I was having that quotation in mind when writing "dialect" and the separate status of Basque. --Error 00:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The usage of the word "Dialect" 

message: I cut "Many speakers of other languages had supported the Second Spanish Republic, which Franco's forces defeated in the Spanish Civil War, bringing Franco to power" because, conversely, there were also "many speakers" of other languages who supported Franco, not only in the Galician, Balearic, Navarrese and other areas which started the Francoist uprising, but also in the Republican held zones (most notably, conservatives in Catalonia and the Land of Valencia and, to a lesser extent, in the Basque country) thus the former reference doesn't make much sense, in my opinion. In other words: while "separatism" was indeed an issue, provided the fact that not all the speakers of other languages where nationalists (in a contemporary sense), then, it was more the Left/Right divide which fueled this war, not a linguistic question whatsoever.
On the other hand, I am not sure about it, but Franco himself may have been a Galician speaker. Anyone knows about this? Mountolive 17:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Supporters and adversaries

message: "Spanish" was recently changed to "the Spanish language (as Castilian is more widely known)". I believe this is wrong. There is no question that in Spanish, castellano and español are interchangeable, but this is not the case for their English-language equivalents. "Castilian" in English has the narrower connotation of specifically Castilian dialect; for example, the dialect of Andalusia is not "Castilian", but it is emphatically "Spanish". As far as I know, Franco made no efforts to suppress regional variation within the Spanish language. - Jmabel | Talk 01:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But I see that our article Spanish language contradicts me on this. I'll take the issue there. - Jmabel | Talk 01:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am responsible for that Spanish/Castilian distinction. Please feel free to edit it as you see fit if it is not accurate. Mountolive 02:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Castilian" 

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