Talk:Nasser Khalili

message: Why exactly is Mr. Khalili called a Professor?--68.4.3.149 (talk) 20:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He holds the post/title of "Visiting Professor" at SOAS, though I do not know how directly involved he may be in actually teaching, advising postgrad students, or otherwise. LordAmeth (talk) 14:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: A collector, professor, and it also seems lover of being photographed with Western politicians and personalities, particularly Anglo-American, so maybe celebrity too. That is all fine. But where does the wealth come from? No biography? No life? No background?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.6.71 (talk) 23:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Wealth

message: (Moved from the article as Wikipedia is not a link farm but the articles are possible sources)
* 2014      MUGHAL MYSTIQUE - MARG MAGAZINE ARTICLE
* 2014      UNIVERSALITY AND THE ART OF PEACE - FIRST MAGAZINE
* 2013      B BEYOND - CONVERSATION WITH ART COLLECTOR AND UNESCO GOODWILL AMBASSADOR DAVID KHALILI
* 2012      A LEAP OF FAITH - FINANCIAL TIMES
* 2010      IN PURSUIT OF THE FINER THINGS - INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE
* 2010      GETTING RICH THROUGH ISLAMIC ART - BLOOMBERG ARTICLE
* 2010      NASSER KHALILI, AMBASSADEUR DES ARTS D’ISLAM - LA GAZETTE
* 2009      ARTISTIC BRIDGE BUILDING - JEWISH CRONICAL
* 2009      A THOUSAND AND ONE FACETS OF ISLAM - L’EXPRESS
* 2009      CENTER STAGE - LIFESTYLES MAGAZINE
* 2009      THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE
* 2008      AN ISLAMIC SYMPHONY - DAVID KHALILI TALKS ABOUT HIS COLLECTION - APOLLO MAGAZINE
* 2008      THE ARTS OF ISLAM: TREASURES FROM THE NASSER D KHALILI COLLECTION - THE MIDDLE EAST IN LONDON
* 2008      KHALILI MAKES DAZZALING DEBUT - ARABIAN KNIGHT
* 2008      BRIDGING THE GULF - ISLAMIC ART ASIAN ART
* 2007      THE EMPIRE OF NASSER D KHALILI - CONAISSANCE DES ARTS
* 2007      THE ELOQUENCE OF ART - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - SPIRITIAL REVIVAL - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - SHAPING THE WORLD - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - SHAPING HISTORY - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - ORNAMENT AND AMULET - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI -THE WORD OF GOD - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - THE MAGIC OF SCIENCE - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2007      TREASURES OF KHALILI - PRECIOUS BEAUTY - CANVAS MAGAZINE
* 2006      THE AMBASSADOR OF CULTURE - EMEL MAGAZINE
* 2006      THE BORN COLLECTOR - ART NEWS
* 2006      KHALILI & MEIJI - TABLEAU MAGAZINE
* 2006      BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER - BONHAM MAGAZINE
* 2005      BRIDGE BETWEEN THE MOSQUE AND THE SYNAGOGUE - THE TIMES
* 2005      KHALILI RESEARCH CENTRE FOR ART AND MATERIAL CULTURE OF THE MIDDLE EAST - EASTERN ART REPORT
* 2005      GOD IS GREAT - FORBES US MAGAZINE
* 2004      THE COLLECTOR - HEALING THE WORLD WITH ART - THE INDEPENDENT 
* 2003      THE QUIET BILLIONAIRE
Philafrenzy (talk) 23:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an update that these files have been moved, so the above links are dead, but all the files are at https://www.nasserdkhalili.com/media/articles/ and https://www.khalilicollections.org/media/articles/ MartinPoulter (talk) 12:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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message: The Debretts biography in the External links section is a broken link, and it isn't archived on web.archive.org. It looks like the entire publication Debrett's People of Today has been taken offline, so I'm removing the link. Still, that publication exists in book form. If someone can get hold of the book, it would be useful to put bibliographic details into reference 11, which is currently a dead link to this online biography. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debrett's 

message: I have created an improved draft of this article at User:MartinPoulter/Nasser_Khalili. This diff summarises the changes I've made. I think this is a clear improvement over what is there at the moment, but of course I'm open to discussing any of the changes individually. Being involved in a GLAM partnership with the Khalili Collections, I'm prevented by a COI from pasting in the whole draft myself. Below I list the problems with the existing article that this new version is designed to fix.
* Lots of broken links, links to outdated sources, and bare URLs.
* Links to Khalili publications when third-party sources exist
* The Sydney Morning Herald article is listed as its own source, but it's just a reprint of the Bloomberg profile.
* Some WP:PEACOCK or otherwise unencyclopedic language
* In particular, the lead needed an overhaul because of some confusing language and because it was not a summary of the article. The fact about Bernie Ecclestone buying a house from Khalili arguably deserves mention in the article, but it's a bit tabloidy to have it in the lead as though it's central to understanding who Khalili is.
* The descriptions of most of the collections have been updated, drawing on articles about each collection which have passed AFC and DYK review.
* The Khalili Collection of Islamic Art being "curated by Julian Raby" seems to have been true at one point but is presently contradicted by https://www.khalilicollections.org/islamic-arts/#read-more so I've removed it.
* Images have been provided to represent each of the eight collections.
* Two items owned by Khalili are the subjects of WP articles: Khalili Imperial Garniture and Jami' al-tawarikh, so I've described and wikilinked both.
* A lot of the sources about Khalili refer to his philanthropy, but there was not much about philanthropy in the biography, so I've rewritten that section. "In 2012, he pledged over £1.5 million in support of his charity, The Maimonides Interfaith Foundation, in celebration of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee." - removed because I couldn't find a source.
* Property development section: "Khalili acquired the freehold in 2009" removed because I couldn't find it in the sources. There is no need for the images in this section to be enlarged, so I set them to default size.
* The Recognition section had some duplication and was written in a very inconsistent way. The UNESCO goodwill ambassador subsection did not give an impression of what he does in this capacity.
* The Financial section overlapped heavily with the Business and collecting career section, so I merged it in.
* It is customary for a biography of a published author to contain a bibliography, so I've added a new section for that. I don't have the title of the first book he wrote, but I am still hoping to find that out and include it.
* New, short section on Personal life. It's common to put family details in their own section towards the end.
Again, the proposed solution for these problems, and the supporting refs, are in the draft in my userspace and I'm very happy to further discuss changes if that is necessary. Thanks in advance for any help,
MartinPoulter (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging  - three editors who have made numerous edits to this article and have removed promotional material - in case they can help. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your transparency and your enormous work on this article and his wonderful collections. I concur with all of your above changes and your dedication to improving flow and prose - which is a rare ability on Wikipedia! The article still preserves the enigmatic nature of Khalili's Kane like grandiloquent collecting, and serves as brilliant glimpse into the life and motivations of a fascinating London character. I hope the GLAM partnership with Khalili will prove to be an inspiration to other collectors and custodians of the memory of humanity. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're very kind. If you agree that my draft is an improvement, could you please paste it in to replace the current article? Thanks so much, MartinPoulter (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. No Swan So Fine (talk) 23:50, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Clicking "Thank" is not enough: I'm extremely grateful! MartinPoulter (talk) 16:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request October 2020 

message: referring to this edit, I see your point about there being an entire article about the collections which we don't want to duplicate, but I think there is scope for discussion about how long of a summary we have. Your edit removed about 1,100 words; about one third of the article's total body text. The collections are the main reason for this person's notability, so I don't follow your point in the edit summary that the text is "not about Khalili the person". Surely documenting the person involves giving most weight to what they are most notable for. Now there's more body text about property development than about the collections, which does not at all reflect the coverage of those aspects in reliable sources. As you've seen in reviewing an article about an individual collection, each of the eight collections has had third-party coverage as well as an extensive official catalogue. Just because a sub-article exists doesn't mean there can't be a lengthy summary in the main article: see Vincent van Gogh for example. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think that's fair and I'm happy to discuss the edit, which was WP:BOLD. I think coverage of Khalili's work to collect the antiquities would be good to have for this page, but the material seemed to me to be exclusively about the collections themselves - their contents, significance, and provenance. I agree that as it stands now, the section is a little short, but I think it should be expanded with material about how, why, and when Khalili built these collections, and *not* with the kind of material that was removed, which in my view really does belong on the linked page. The Van Gogh comparison misses the mark - he was an artist, not a collector. Ganesha811 (talk) 12:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summarising the [[Khalili Collections]] article 

message: There is a separate article about the charitable foundation led by Khalili, the Khalili Foundation. This article is badly out of date, so I've created a userspace draft with more content and more sources. See the edit request on the article's Talk page. Thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This request has been actioned. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request for related article