Talk:List of collective nouns by collective term L-Z

message: What on earth is this page? --Selket Talk 17:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is this?

message: "A farm of servers" would be correct. 
But a plurality of computers does not make for a network, much in the same way that a plurality of people do not make a corporation. 
IIRC at some earlier age there was talk of "a crunching of processors". Nice... elpincha 16:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per the above comment, suggest to delete "network". Ideas? elpincha (talk) 14:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm opposed to deletion.  Semantically correct or not, the term "network" is commonly used to refer to a collective consisting of computers and (often) other technical elements.  I also note that the distinction between a plurality and a collective is often vague:  We frequently see people collectivized by country or region ("several states of voters favored the candidate") although a geographical area isn't technically comprised [solely] of people.  Bonehed (talk) 23:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A group of computers is not a "network". A group of connected computers is. It's the difference between a group of people and a "family" of people. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "A network of computers" is semantically wrong

message: --CopyToWiktionaryBot 04:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007-08-3 Automated pywikipediabot message 

message: I propose the following standards for this page.
1) All entries must be verifiable. If you add or return an entry, please provide a citation to a reliable source defining the term or clearly demonstrating the usage as a specific collective term for the noun in question.
2) Specific usages are out. A random listing of mountains is not a "range of mountains" nor is a random group of football players a "team of players". Five computers are not a "network of computers" unless they are networked together. No "ring of keys", etc.
3) Collectives that are not limited to usage for specific nouns are out. This rules out "pile of/handful of/bucket of/liter of" "peas/leaves/beer/coins" and such.
4) Please list each usage separately: "____ of As" and "___ of Bs" not "____ of A/Bs". This will ease the transitioning of this page to a sortable table and keep the references clearer.
Thoughts? - SummerPhD (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with 2,3 and 4. Disagree with 1, as above. If it is challenged, it can be removed if no source is provided within a reasonable time, but if unchallenged, it shouldn't be removed. As per Wikipedia policy we both mentioned before. Debresser (talk) 18:42, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 1 restates a core policy. "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." To wit: "Any material lacking a reliable source may be removed". WP:V I will act accordingly. Your actions are your own, we'll hash it out as we go along. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Standards

message: I would recommend that this article be merged with List of collective nouns by subject I-Z to create a new article "List of collective nouns ...-Z".Additionally, the article List of collective nouns by collective term A-K should be merged with List of collective nouns by subject A-H to create a new article "List of collective nouns A-...". (starting and ending the articles at whichever letter is best)
If all items were put in a sortable table, then the user could choose to view the list by collective term or subject.
This would cut down on the number of lists for these and would also help with future editing as currently items in the subject lists are not always updated in the collective terms lists and vice versa and also items are missing from one list or the other.
Comments welcome.
Ozzieboy (talk) 05:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. After all the unsourced (many very questionable) items were removed, there's not enough left for several articles anyway. Cresix (talk) 16:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree, a sortable list make separate lists a moot point. I haven't had a chance to go through the other lists at :Category:Lists_of_collective_nouns. Thoughts? - SummerPhD (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think there is some repetition in the other lists - I really haven't gone through them all either.  I have made a start in my Sandbox on the alphabetic lists. Ozzieboy (talk) 10:31, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

text:  The job is bigger than I realised! And I can only work on it in my spare time. But I am still working on a merged article and hope to have it finished before the next millennium. Ozzieboy (talk) 19:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

text:  New merged article is List of collective nouns Ozzieboy (talk) 11:15, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Edited to remove link to changed User page  Ozzieboy (talk) 10:11, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge