Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/LovelyGirls

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 Yours truly, Arky ¡Hablar! 19:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

message: Please remember to do all communication concerning work related to the course on this discussion page.  It is the only page I can monitor and give students credit for doing their work.  Thank you!!! Thelmadatter 13:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reminder to Mentors and Students

message: Hello, I'm Neranei, and I noticed that you girls were in need of a mentor. If you want me to, I'd be pleased to mentor you. Just drop me a note on my talk page! Neranei (talk) 00:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I am pleased to be your mentor! Could you each introduce yourselves to me? I go by Neranei around here, and I am from the United States. I will post this message on each talk page that you are affiliated with, so you can get my message. Love, Neranei (talk) 22:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Right now we need to define the topic we will be working in. As you can read below, we are planing to write an article about women's history in Mexico; probably focusing on 1968. What do you think about this?: Hitoko 09:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that that is a good idea; perhaps only one article, though, titled something like History of women in Mexico. Tell me what you think! Neranei (talk) 12:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, we like that idea. However we want to start by making a stub, do you think we should focus first in a more specified topic than going first for something big, or it isn't that important?--Hitoko 17:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the History of Women article will probably be a big project, so, yes, I would suggest writing a stub on a notable Mexican feminist (presuming that that is the topic you want to write about) or something of the like. Write about what you are interested in, it helps! Love, Neranei (talk) 18:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentorship 

message: The three contributions that students need to do next partial (~October) is to significantly edit an article, create a stub and translate an article from English Wikipedia for Spanish Wikipedia.  Mentors, if you would be so kind as to look over the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mexico, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mexico and :Category:Mexico_stubs pages to help students discuss and select projects to do in October. For more information, see the Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus page.  Thank you! Thelmadatter 14:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could use History of women in the United States as a model.  A shorter article with narrower scope is Women's suffrage in New Zealand.  --Richard 15:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion for discussion

message: Please remember that you sign your posts on talk pages, but never in articles. Thank you and happy editing! --Geniac 16:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signing 

message: :In the meantime, let me ask what you meant by "This pushed the government to repress the students in order to avoid any further retaliation."  What do you mean by "retaliation"?  This doesn't make any sense to me.  Perhaps you could write in Spanish what you meant to say and we can suggest a better way to express it in English.  --Richard 04:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "El gobierno se vio obligado a reprimir este movimiento para evitar que las ideas socialista fuesen a llegar a más gente, haciendo que la situación se saliera de control."--Hitoko 15:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Retaliation

message: I feel that "arise and get stronger" is somehow not colloquial.  "take root and sprout" or "take hold and grow stronger" are perhaps more colloquial ways of saying this.  Just out of curiousity, how would you have written this in Spanish? --Richard 05:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Spanish we would have written something like: "Por lo que las ideas feministas empezaron a surgir y a tomar fuerza". 
--Hitoko 15:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arise and get stronger

message: There is something that doesn't feel quite right about the phrasing of the sentence "the government believed in women’s inferiority".  I would write "government officials tended to focus on the men in the movement and, as a result, discounted the significance of the women in the movement". 
Then I would continue by saying something like "As a result of this prejudice, the male members of the movement were targeted more than the female members were during the government crackdown of October 2nd, 1968.  Thus, the male members tended to be the ones who were rounded up leaving the female members behind.  This gave the female members the opportunity to rise in the leadership of the movement and shape its direction in the ensuing years."  I have made some educated guesses here and so what I wrote may not be quite correct.  Obviously, you know the subject matter and I don't, so feel free to correct what I wrote if it is not accurate.
--Richard 05:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Women' inferiority

message: I know that we told you that we were going to make an article about women in Mexico, specifically during Mexico 68. However, while we were investigating we decided to expand our research to the Social Movement of Mexico 68, including information about women as a subheading. We just wanted you to know, in order for you to stay current on our progress. In a couple of days we will probably upload our draft, we hope you could take a look at it by then. --Hitoko 00:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article