Talk:KFC/Archive 2

message: When I was a kid the KFC logo was just the Colonel's head and tie, which I always found hilarious because it looked like he had a tiny stickman body. Imagine my disappointment when KFC subsequently added his shoulders to the design which ruined the effect. Does anyone know if that is why they had the redesign? Beanhead McGinty 18:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: Wording like "some scientists believe that MSG is harmful" does not belong in an article. Please stick to facts and cite references. If you can find a citation for the assertion that KFC recipes contain an amount of MSG that exceeds legal standards, then it is appropriate to state that.
I also removed the reference to SLAPP in the first paragraph of "Controversy" because the citation was a Greenpeace press release / newsletter. That there was a lawsuit is not disputed. That it was a SLAPP is a matter of opinion. Joseph N Hall 06:41, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I requested a cite for the MSG paragraph in question. Removing it altogether is extreme. Let's give it a chance for somebody to add a reference.  My revert of the SLAPP was unintentional. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 06:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the MSG paragraph again for a variety of reasons. "Some scientists" is weasel-wording. "list of top ten ... to avoid" doesn't even rise to the level of weasel-wording. "Some countries" is weasel-wording. The only claim there that might or might not be factual is that "India" has found that KFC's food exceeds its standards for MSG content. Joseph N Hall 06:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then rewrite it rather than remove it.  I'm not allowing its outright removal without providing for time to find a cite. If you want to test me on my resolve, go ahead, but I'm not letting this go. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 06:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing in that paragraph that is substantiated. Reputable reference works aren't created through the process of allowing people to write any damn fool thing they want and leaving it there until someone can prove it wrong. This is precisely the kind of thing that gives Wikipedia a bad name. I'm not interested in testing your resolve. If you want to expend your resolve by defending the inclusion of a single paragraph that has no factual content in an encyclopedia that is read by the entire world, go ahead. It's your name on the edits. Joseph N Hall 07:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is however customary, as well as polite, to give other users a little time to prove assertions right. That, after all, is exactly what citation markers are for. I tend to allow one week: that seems reasonable in this case.FrFintonStack 00:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MSG, NPOV, etc. 

message: Interestingly, has anyone else noticed the visual similarity between KFC and Ho Chi Minh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.71.183 (talk • contribs) 
This uncanny likeness was also mentioned in the Lonely Planet guidebook for Vietnam. The Vietnamese government were not amused when someone tried to start a KFC spinoff under the name 'Uncle Ho's Hamburgers'. "Ho Chi Minh was a general, not a colonel!". (Source: Lonely Planet guide for Vietnam, edition 1998)
:Are you referring to similarities between KFC and Ho Chi Minh or between Colonel Sanders and Ho Chi Minh. If it's the former I don't particularly get what similarities there are between a company that sells fried chicken and a general. If it's the later, it might help if you're clearer and don't refer to KFC as if it's Colonel Sanders... Nil Einne 06:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  KFC in Vietnam 

message: I doubt the accuracy of the "Throughout the city of Melbourne, a strong anti-KFC team of youths went through many KFC stores making large scenes" comment.  I've never heard of this occuring and the citation is a single YouTube video which appears to be an isolated prank by one person and the camera operator.  If there was a strong team of anti-KFC youths running around, it would probably be reported in the media, but it does not appear to have been.  I would suggest the reference be deleted.  Rob.au 03:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy - Melbourne youths 

message: I know of one franchise that specifically is a Kentucky Fried Chicken that features Kentucky Fried Chicken & Pizza on the front of the store.  It is located in Fords, New Jersey (I think, or South Amboy).  Does it warrant mention on this page or should it be left unsaid? 70.111.62.131 04:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  KFC & Pizza? 

message: I was reading the article and this sentence struck me as pretty strangely worded.
The 2006 animated movie Barnyard has a scene where chickens throw darts at a picture of Colonel Sanders which is the logo of KFC that is on a dart board.
Now I didn't see the movie, but maybe someone who did can fix that? Onstar102 03:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange Wording in "Barnyard" Reference 

message: :Some people think that what gives KFC chicken its distinctive taste is that, after being coated, it is cooked in hot oil in a pressure cooker instead of a conventional deep fryer [citation needed].
The above seems a little silly to me. A pressure cooker is not some sort of secret tool that no one has ever used other then KFC. It's something that some households have. And anyone who has ever tasted chicken cooked in a pressure cooker should know it does not inherently taste like KFC. However I guess if it's a noteable claim then we should mention it even if it's exceptionally silly. The fact that someone apparently discredited it on a TV show suggests it must be a noteable claim however we still need a cite for the claim Nil Einne 06:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pressure cooker 

message: :A couple who purchased the Colonel's original home found another handwritten recipe in the basement, and, although it was written by Sanders, it was determined to be nothing like the original.
I seem to remember there was one case, possibly the above where KFC purchased the recipe. If they did so this should be mentioned even if they maintain it was not the secret recipe Nil Einne 06:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed recipes 

message: I'm a little suspicious of the current recipes section. It just links to some recipe and I don't see any reliable sources as to it tasting like what it's supposed to taste like. --WikiSlasher 11:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections? I'm just going to be bold and delete it then. --WikiSlasher 06:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recipes section 

message: Without credible citation and clarification, the part about "seen from space" should be removed.  The Great Wall of China can't be seen from space (with the unaided eye).  The car in my driveway [i]can[/i], on the other hand, be seen from space, via Google Maps. The sentence in the article as it stands right now is meaningless PR drivel. 198.161.246.2 23:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if this is a credible source, but http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/17/colonel_sanders_mosaic/ has a story and a picture. Sidasta 15:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space 

message: Ansett changed the logo in the infobox from :Image:KFC2006.jpg, which from what I can tell is the logo used in America, the country that KFC operates from; to :Image:KFC.png, which is apparently used in more countries.  I think we should continue using :Image:KFC2006.jpg in the infobox as this article is about an American company and that's the logo used in America.  The other logo should be mentioned later in the article, perhaps in the Countries with KFC section.  AOL, another American company that has a different logo for other countries, uses the American logo in the infobox and the other logo is used later in the article.  JDtalk 11:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo in the infobox