Talk:Crime in Chicago

message: someone fool with this the article. please rvert. no vdlajism. Boromir's Regret 21:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  graffitti 

message: What is the definition of "big city"?  What cities is Chicago being compared to in crime rates?--Parkwells (talk) 18:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Big city

message: The sidebar and the main text (which is redundant) differ as to the number of homicides in 2006.  Also, the sidebar text claims a source from 2005, which can't be accurate given the more recent numbers.  Finally, reference [3] in the main text table is a broken link and doesn't match up with the third item in the References. Bhudson (talk) 22:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  numbers problems 

message: I heard on a news show afew months ago that over 100,000 people living in Chicago have something bad againts their name e.g Arrest, Convictions, Resigned sex offenders, Rehabs. If someone would like to find proof for this sistick would be good.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SoloWing3844 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Criminal Records

message: We have a nice consistent source up until 2011.  Why did we quote redeye for 2012?  I kinda think we should remove it or replace using the same crime metrics.  Who knows what standards redeye used, so it doesn't really work for comparison.Jasonnewyork (talk) 20:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be a great idea, except for the fact that prior source (Chicago PD) has not been updated since 2011.  Considering that we are talking about the government of Cook County, Illinois here, which is not exactly an entity that is lamented for doing anything expeditiously, should we just ignore other RS's out there with statistics until they get around to it ? --Supaflyrobby (talk) 12:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homocides by year 

message: Blatant political and opinionated over tones in this section, No facts to support qualitative claims. Entire section requested for deletion due to none fact based hyperbole and poor section structure. No unbiased citations, editorials only.
"However, recent Chicago homicide rates are nowhere near those seen in the '70s, '80s and '90s. In fact, the past decade has logged some of the lowest annual rates since 1965. Gun violence is the leading factor of Chicago deaths, and the media portrays Chicago as one of the most, if not the most dangerous city in the United States of America, regardless of that information's accuracy"
::I wholeheartedly agree, and while I think mention of the "Chiraq" phenomenon deserves inclusion in the article, rhetorical posturing does not. I have removed the section and would ask the original poster post here to the talk page so we can build consensus with other editors. Supaflyrobby (talk) 21:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago Media Portrayal 

message: I was considering adding a section to the article on this highly controversial CPD tactic which garnered a great deal of press in the early part of 2015 and drew plenty of attention from the ACLU and others. Though perhaps it might be more appropriate on the CPD article? Anyone have thoughts?Supaflyrobby (talk) 04:14, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree stop & frisk in Chicago is noteworthy in reliable sources, and a due weight topic in police-community relations if not crime, something of a precursor to the current activism around other police misconduct. Recently the mayor is in multiple reliable sources citing his reforms in the area of stop & frisk as evidence of his sensitivity to the community. Hugh (talk) 20:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I will has out a section sometime in the near future. I am a little pressed for time of late with the holidays upon us, but I will get something on stop and frisk developed soon (or feel free to help a brotha out).Supaflyrobby (talk) 00:55, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a paragraph on stop and frisk, and some associated statistics.--Supaflyrobby (talk) 14:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop and Frisk

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message: These reports may be useful for the public corruption section. The reports are extremely well-referenced to newspapers commonly available in online databases.
2015: A Banner Year in Illinois Corruption, Anti-Corruption Report #9
Release Date: March 9, 2016
http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics
:Good catch, and the material is fantastic. I may expand the corruption section soon. I also want to make a section on history, highlighting the Capone and subsequent eras leading up to the present at some point as well. 
--Supaflyrobby (talk) 14:53, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Rob. Thanks for your contributions. Berrios has not been indicted let alone convicted; technically, Berrios is not a criminal. With all the indictments and convictions for public corruption available to us, is a paragraph on Berrios due in our article "Crime in Chicago"? What do you think? Thanks again. Hugh (talk) 18:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is about corruption, and while Berrios is clearly corrupt, I would agree that his actions skirt the fine line between illegal and unethical that all of us in Chicago know so well. A court and the ethics board has rendered a judgement of guilt (and in the case of the ethics board) a $10,000 fine that he managed to get tossed on grounds that they had no authority to punish him. That said, being a piece of shit, in and of itself,  is certainly not illegal. Feel free to remove it, and thanks for keeping me on point/task. I will, at some point, expand the section on some other notable criminal case --Supaflyrobby (talk) 20:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  2015 UIC PoliSci Simpson lab Illinois corruption report 

message: There are more than two dozen. I found the new locations here for the pre-1991 data and here for '91-2011 data. Apart from doing so manually one by one, I'm unsure how to replace links en masse, so I wanted to see if a ref expert could do it quicker. Fdssdf (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately I am little help when it comes to formatting/tools, so hopefully someone with a solution comes along as replacing them all manually will be a pain. 
--Supaflyrobby (talk) 18:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Chicago crime data links

message: Vandalism by "Raven50034" ruined a whole bunch of the numbers in the overview: see the diffs on October 22nd 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crime_in_Chicago&diff=prev&oldid=745704201
examples:
60 Shot on 4th of July; vandalized to 876 
500 murders -> 878 murders
I did not see any statistics in the given sources to back up these ridiculous numbers.  
I'm going to start undoing these changes (they have to be done manually at this point). Please keep your eyes out for vandalism before you make an edit to the page.
DrNoBrain (talk) 04:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I am normally fairly vigilant about catching vandals as the page is on my watch list, but been quite busy of late. Thanks for catching it. 
--Supaflyrobby (talk) 13:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with the numbers in the "Overview" section 

message: Part of the reason why good figures and information are hard to maintain in these types of articles is due to extraneous information. I don't think there is any need to keep a month by month tally of how many people were killed and shot each weekend. Certainly it doesn't need to be done in paragraph form (tables are better).
I would like to dramatically reduce the amount of information on this page as much of it is poorly sourced and frequently vandalized. Let's keep the page succinct but accurate.
Thoughts? 
DrNoBrain (talk) 04:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What, specifically, are you proposing? And what do you feel is not adequately sourced? 
--Supaflyrobby (talk) 13:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extraneous Information 

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message: the Y axis on the graph doesn't make any sense and doesn't seems to match the numbers, 132.76.61.52 (talk) 10:18, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annual murder totals in Chicago by year 

message: The new graph and information for homicides by year is completely wrong.  It shows recent years, such as 2012 and 2013 as having well over 600 homicides, when those years saw more like 400-450.  Not to mention that the graph is completely just--wrong.  I don't even need to describe it, just look at it.  I'd fix it, but unfortunately I don't really know how, and I don't want to bother trying to figure it out.  But someone definitely needs to fix something that should honestly have already been fixed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.222.60.203 (talk) 03:56, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is with the new homicides graph? 

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message: This article only provides an overview to modern crime in Chicago. It, therefore, lacks a great amount of info that an article titled "crime in Chicago" should need to cover. For instance, prohibition era gang activity (such as that by Al Capone and his contemporaries), 19th century crime (such as the enterprises operated by Michael Cassius McDonald) among other things. SecretName101 (talk) 09:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Look to Crime in New York City as an example of an article with better coverage on a city's history of crime. SecretName101 (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Absolutely! I'm from Germany and "Chicago" over here is a long-standing synonym of "crime". One might say that a town is "turning into Chicago" or the like. I suppose it goes back to the 1920s and 30s, but I wanted to know a bit more about the background of crime in Chicago and was rather disappointed by the total lack of history in this article. 178.4.151.244 (talk) 00:26, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Severe lack of broad historical coverage/context