Talk:Architecture

message: i do not agree with more than king's done architecture in history becase all modern buildings are not architecture and this means this architecture buildings have to fit in correct way to inside living people and not to working people or it fits correct to art people to different music halls or under the architecture law done buildings but new buildings are politics buildings and have no chance to be architecture and new means in most cases build behind ' 1924 ' included  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waldemar Gregor Kaiser (talk • contribs) 13:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: In "Definitions and etymology"
Put a period after the line "A unifying or coherent form or structure" Zfriend101 (talk) 04:49, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done DRAGON BOOSTER  ★ 07:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2018 

message: Hello there,
I wish to offer a suggestion to the following edit because it is important to state the true essence of the word.
As a native Greek, I can offer some insight on the following...
*Chief in Greek is Αρχηγος, it comes from the Αρχη and Ηγώ which literally means First to rule. Architect though is not a ruler-chief literally. I understand how this mistake can be made but as a professional and mature artist, I believe we should make this more clear for the new ones.
*Τέκτων is not the Creator, but a Craftsman which in modern Greek is Τεχνήτης. They all derive from the word Art (Τέχνη) which literally means the result which comes from practical mastery. The difference is that a creator is someone who conceptualizes something, and this does not mean that it can ever be functional or practical. A Craftsman or a real Artist is one who masters a practical deployment through observation which is complimented with repetition, replication, and coherent coverage over what is possible. It would be great if you could also say something about this, but for now, I would just want to say that the etymology could easily change as the following. 
please change:
Architecture (Latin architectura, from the Greek ἀρχιτέκτων arkhitekton "architect", from ἀρχι- "chief" and τέκτων "creator") is both the process and the product of planning, designing, and constructing buildings and other physical structures. 
to:
Architecture (Latin architectura, from the Greek ἀρχιτέκτων arkhitekton "architect", from ἀρχι- "first" and τέκτων "craftsman" or "artist") is both the process and the result of mastering a practical function (skill). Although its roots lay over the planning, designing, and building of physical structures, its branches truly expand to all arts and sciences.
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In my notes I made the following synthesis which includes references from the above suggestions which other people made: 
Architecture, the art of forming coherent structures is the highest form of arts. Even if it has been long associated with the act of designing and building physical constructions, its roots lay in the Mastery of Practicality. It got its name from the ancient Greeks who called ἀρχιτέκτων (arkhitekton-architect) those who were Masters at their Craft (from ἀρχι- "first" and τέκτων "craftsman"). 
Contemporary Architecture cannot be reduced to physical construction. Architecture is space (in its different states and meanings), forms, organization, communication, design, nature. The use of the term architecture also has applications in information technology, in the science of reasoning (logic), as well as in landscapes and naval design. In philosophy, we may speak of the architecture of thought, the architecture of a concept. In neuroscience of the architecture of the brain or the architecture of a nervous system. The term is used in many other professions to define a unifying or coherent form or structure which follows function.
Thank you. 
Adamapricot (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Synthesis is a harder sell to make here, as this is frowned upon in most articles. The sources you have used to reach these conclusions should be provided, in order to double check that this is not the case here.  Spintendo  16:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

text: I fully agree with Adamapricot (talk) and his etymological research confirm my understanding of architecture. Architecture is not only a building or the building resulting of a design. The term is not used as a metaphor to define the functioning of the brain or elaboration of a thought or an abstract organisation. Architecture is not a material form. It is a principle, a process or a concept leading to an organisation or a system. --Christophe Krief (talk) 21:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2019 

message: The external link Glossary of Architecture Terms (with dictionary definitions)is broken.  Please remove it.  You could replace it with https://architecturaltrust.org/outreach/education/glossary-of-architectural-terms/ Pearlharperinfamoushistorian (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks for pointing that out. Station1 (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2019 

message: A discussion is taking place as to whether :Portal:Architecture is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Architecture]] for deletion 

message: "Add to Historic treatises"
In the mid to late 16th century Italian Mannerist architect, painter and theorist, Sebastiano Serlio, wrote the influential architecture treatise Tutte L’Opere D’Architettura et Prospetiva (1537-75) - “Complete Works on Architecture and Perspective”).
The treatise exerted immense influence throughout Europe being the first architectural handbook that emphasized the practical rather than the theoretical aspects of architecture, and it was the first to catalog the five orders. DianaVS2 (talk) 16:12, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough - reference & link please (of course we have an article). Johnbod (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. P,TO 19104  (talk) (contribs)  14:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

text: . Plenty of refs at Serlio article or by quick google. Thanks for the suggestion. Station1 (talk) 07:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2020 

message: I've looked at architecture-related articles and this article has the most information about the aesthetics in architecture. I think it would be good to have a dedicated article about it covering both prescriptive (what the relationship should be per Vitruvius, Sullivan and others) and descriptive (what has been considered aesthetically pleasing). I can give it a try but wanted to get some feedback first - maybe it's been covered somewhere already. Alaexis¿question? 18:37, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aesthetics in architecture 

message: I am probing and gathering support to add a section on native American architecture (e.g. Mesoamerican architecture, Andean architecture and elsewhere). The article in general is too biased towards European architecture. For instance, Indian and Chinese architectures are grouped into "Asian", despite being completely separate cradles of civilization. isacdaavid 00:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a section about indigenous architecture in the Americas 

message: Could someone with edit permission consider deleting "In fact" in the below sentence? 
"In fact, During the European Middle Ages, pan-European styles of Romanesque and Gothic cathedrals and abbeys emerged while the Renaissance favored Classical forms implemented by architects known by name."
This sentence isn't an intensification or illustration of the point in the prior sentence, so "In fact" doesn't fit. 131.191.89.1 (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . Station1 (talk) 06:37, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Done thanks for the use 105.112.16.231 (talk) 20:23, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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