Talk:Pneumocystis pneumonia

message: This nomenclature is not universally accepted, and should probably not be, as well-elucidated in the following...
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GVK/is_2_9/ai_98250060
:Anonymous editor: that's a letter from two years ago, and even if it were more recent, it wouldn't make anything as clear-cut as you seem to think. First, as it acknowledges, the previous taxonomy of P. carinii never had unanimous consensus among international organizations either - even regarding whether it was a protozoan or a fungus - and yet that didn't stop virtually everyone in medical practice from accepting that it was a fungus and calling it PCP. And in fact, they still call it PCP - with the PC now standing for Pneumocystis instead of P. carinii - addressing the letter-writer's other concern, that the name change would confuse AIDS patients. (I think the authors were really stretching for complaints; they even included a snarky suggestion that "jiroveci" is too hard to pronounce!) Anyway, if you'd like to add a mention of this controversy to our article, go ahead... but it doesn't mean the article isn't still a good description of the current state of the art. ←Hob 22:28, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad mistake

message: An anonymous editor wrote "Pneumocystis jiroveci or, more correctly, Pneumocystis jirovecii". This is wrong - there would be a double I if it had been named after someone whose name already ended in I (such as Antonio Carini), but the person's name is Jírovec, so jiroveci is correct. ←Hob 21:27, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you know who's wrong? Me. ICBN rules say so. Sorry! However, people go on using jiroveci and ICBN hasn't ruled on it, so I updated the article to include both. ←Hob 06:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "more correctly"? 

message: Being new to Wikipedia I realize I am not as familiar with protocols and methods as I need to be. The current title (name) for this page is incorrect, and therefore I tried to move/rename it but have gone in circles. Being a significant topic I would like to ensure this is done correctly.
The reasons it needs to be changed are several. Firstly, jiroveci is not correct. The species epithet is correctly spelled jirovecii according to the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature (Vienna Code 2006), the Code that governs fungal names. In fact Pneumocystis jirovecii is cited as an example in Example 8 for Article 45. There is no dispute on this matter. It is a correction under Art. 60.11 from the original spelling as jiroveci under the Zoological Code. 
Secondly, PCP originally stood for Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia. The Pneumocystis working group now recognizes Pneumocystis jirovecii as the correct name for the causal agent for the human form of Pneumocystis, but decided that the acronym PCP could stand for Pneumo-, -cystis pneumonia, rather than change the acronym. It makes no sense to start calling it Pneumocystis jirovecii pneumonia which would abbreviate as PJP not PCP. Admitedly I do see Pneumocystis 'jiroveci' pneumonia being used in some literature, but it is not sanctioned by the Pneumocystis working group. Therefore, I would like to redirect the incorrectly spelled and perhaps inappropriately named page to a standard Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) named page, and in there explain the history. Thus far I have edited this page but cannot rename it because my attempted move goes in circles.
So I ask your help and advice. Heliocybe 13:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Complex move requests should be posted at Wikipedia:Move requests. -- MarcoTolo 21:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed to rename/move/correct title of page 

message: I completed the moving, redirecting and merging of data from several pages, Pneumocystis jiroveci, Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia, Pneumocystis, etc. I reworded some, removed redundant data, added references. However, my expertise is NOT Pneumocystis pathology, treatment, diagnosis, or even molecular analysis. I noticed a contradiction in symptoms (high fever versus low grade fever) between the old discussions under Pneumocystis jiroveci and Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia old pages. Could those more familiar with the disease symptoms or those more familiar with treatment & diagnosis please check & edit appropriately those sections.  I am much more confident about the history, nomenclature, and systematics. It has also been suggested by another editor that all of this be best treated under the simpler moniker "Pneumocystis pneumonia" rather than "Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP)". I'm not certain what is best. Heliocybe 15:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moves, redirects and merges

message: This seems to be a standardization of Wikipedia page naming conventions which is acceptable. The important thing is to collate the information one location. Heliocybe 13:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirect 

message: May I be so bold as to suggest that we stick to one or the other for the entire document?  Given that co-trimoxazole is the Wikipedia article, may I suggest that we use that?  And then any Americans unfamiliar with that usage can click on the link to find out what it is! --Gak 13:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Co-trimoxazole vs. trimethoprim/sulphamethoxazole 

message: I removed the link to protozoal diseases which on other pages for other organisms looks to be useful, but it is now well established that Pneumocystis is a fungal genus, not a protozoan genus. Heliocybe 13:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protozoan references 

message: Multiple articles easily found online suggest that human-to-human transmission of pneumocystis carovecii is possible, for example: "Transmission of Pneumocystis carinii DNA from a patient with P. carinii pneumonia to immunocompetent contact health care workers.Vargas SL, Ponce CA, Gigliotti F, Ulloa AV, Prieto S, Muñoz MP, Hughes WT.
Program in Microbiology, Instituto de Ciencias Biomédicas, Facultad de Medicina, Universidad de Chile, Santiago. svargas@reuna.cl"''
Maybe this needs reviewing by an another expert on this subject?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.87.165.76 (talk) 14:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human to human transmission 

message: Can anyone give a definite pronunciation of the word "JIROVECI". I'm hearing so many different things these days!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leo71538 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: The sentence "Oxygen is less able to diffuse into the blood, leading to hypoxia. Hypoxia, along with high arterial carbon dioxide (CO2) levels, stimulates ventilation, thereby causing dyspnea." is confusing. Is hypercapnia truly a feature of PCP; and if not, why drag in mention of CO2 levels? I thought CO2 diffuses readily even across thickened alveolar walls, so that it would be hypoxia that causes dyspnea and, indeed, that if anything it would be hypocapnea that would be observed. Myron (talk) 08:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Pathophysiology - dyspnea? 

message: I changed the introduction back to the previous version because the rewrite again begins to blur the distinction between P. jirovecii and P. carinii. By stating without qualifications that P. jirovecii used to be called P. carinii merely sounds like a change in name for one species when in fact they are being recognized as two species, one in rats (P. carinii) and one in humans (P. jirovecii). Currently the wording carefully distinguishes the two while acknowledging that the name P. carinii had been applied to Pneumocystis in humans.
Also, I removed the word "organism" in the other changed section because it was not necessary and it is confusingly general - what "organism"? What was meant was cyst or cell, which is redundant.  However, I cannot speak to the actual clinical diagnostic characteristics. This is for others to judge.  Heliocybe (talk) 12:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction rewrite 

message: This article as it stands now contains such a concentration of unexplained medical terms that it is, in my estimation, beyond the grasp of the average reader. I myself have a relatively good grasp on Latin and some medical background, and even I cannot understand even half of the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.152.184 (talk) 00:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation into English, please? 

message: I've deleted the claim that Pneumocystis carinii was "named after Dr C. Simonian", as it is unsupported by the source given. Also, AFAIK the name "carinii" comes from the Greek for a keel, due to the appearance of the organism under a microscope. Does anyone know for sure? Moonraker12 (talk) 11:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming