Talk:Crypsis

message: There are a couple of issues that I've just become aware of. Firstly, the page hiding is a disambiguation. There seems nowhere else to link, so should hiding be covered here instead? Secondly, there is no mention of organisms hiding their property - e.g. squirrels and birds hiding seeds, or dogs burying bones. Is this a form of crypsis? Richard001 07:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: Crypsis is presented here in prose and category as being part of predation alone. What about avoiding detection from other threats like males of the same species (some female insects mimic males to avoid being harrassed). Richard001 (talk) 04:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to predation 

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message: right|250px|thumb|This frog (facing right, on the upper left of the nearly-vertical stick on the rightmost third of the photo) is nearly invisible
Completely invisible to me. Am I looking in the wrong place? What color is the frog? Am I looking for a froglet? Help!--Wetman (talk) 23:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Start at the top of the main stick.  Now note a smaller darker stick that is just to the left and kind of under that stick.  Take the intersection of those two stick and travel directly to the left.  You will hit the frog's nose.  The frog is sitting on the left edge of the large ash-colored leaf.  --Aranae (talk) 23:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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message: * cryptic coloration (crypsis) Coloration that makes animals difficult to distinguish against their background, so tending to reduce predation. The effect of cryptic coloration may be to cause the appearance of the animal to merge into its background (e.g. the absence of all colour in some pelagic fish larvae) or to breakup the body outline (e.g. the spotted patterns of many bottom-dwelling flatfish). Both effects often occur in the same animal. (Michael Allaby. A Dictionary of Zoology. Oxford University Press).
* crypsis, camouflage by imitating certain environmental background features (The Torre-Bueno Glossary of Entomology)
* procrypsis, concealment from predators (The Torre-Bueno Glossary of Entomology)
* anticrypsis, concealing coloration and behavior (crypsis) enabling a predator to apprach its prey unobserved, or, more usually, allowing the prey to approach the predator without seeing it. (The Torre-Bueno Glossary of Entomology)
* homochromy, change of color to resemble the environment (The Torre-Bueno Glossary of Entomology)
* eucrypsis, camouflage in which the organism blends into a general undefined background (Animal Behavior Desk Reference: A Dictionary of Animal Behavior, Ecology, and Evolution)
* See also: Pasteur, Georges. "A classification review of mimicry systems." Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics (1982): 169-199. 
* Pierre Jolivet. Interrelationship Between Insects and Plants
* Carl B. Huffaker. Ecological Entomology --Danvasilis (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your point is? I removed 'homochromy' as not being a synonym of crypsis, and your definitions agree with that. Cryptic coloration, for example, is the visual form of crypsis (as the article states), and as your definitions also agree; crypsis is (to spell things out) not only visual. Therefore, cryptic coloration is not a synonym either, we can remove it if you like, but it constitutes a large if undefined percentage of crypsis. If it were a synonym, then we could replace the article with a redirect to Camouflage. Since it isn't, we can't, and it won't do to go on about "concealing coloration" and "camouflage" as if that exhausted the topic: it doesn't. (As an aside: very few encyclopedia articles can be based with any success on dictionary definitions, and this isn't an exception.) Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crypsis, cryptic coloration, homochromy 

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message: Can we find any support for this?  The text certainly seems reasonable and to express a WP:NPOV, but it could still be WP:OR.  User:Chiswick Chap, any thoughts on good sources? yoyo (talk) 04:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
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