Talk:Herman Kahn

message: The info on him coining the word escalation is wrong although he did invent escalatory in On Escalation.  The first cite in the OED is from the Kansas City Star 29 March 1938 and another quote is from his Thinking about Unthinkable written 3 years before the book he supposedly coined the word. So I've removed the claim.MeltBanana 01:09, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice article here.  TNKS, Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 00:55, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've read Herman Kahn's books On Thermonuclear War, On Escalation, and Thinking About the Unthinkable, and his testimony to the June 1959 Congressional Hearings on the "Biological and Environmental Effects of Nuclear War", and nowhere does NOT use the term "megadeath", which as far as I'm aware was invented by Stanley Kubrick in his 1964 film "Dr Strangelove". I've also read arm-waving apocryphal allegations made by recent "biographers" of Herman Kahn, which claim he used "megadeath" in the 1959 hearings (where they also misrepresent his excellent testimony entirely), which he clearly did not from the published testimony.  Can anyone cite any examples of Kahn's writings (including page numbers, or quotations of sentences) containing "megadeath"? 82.21.58.162 (talk) 21:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Megadeath was not a word used by Herman Kahn in "On Thermonuclear War" or other books and talks

message: "It was said that Kubrick immersed himself in On Thermonuclear War and insisted that the film's producer also read it."
On the Dr Strangelove page, the film's producer is listed as ... a Mr. Stanley Kubrick. Erm... --HiddenInPlainSight 11:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr Strangelove 

message: In his book The Year 2000, he first used the word "scenarios" to describe hypothetical series of events that may possibly occur. Since then, the word has found common use among the general population.Lestrade 12:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scenarios

message: Also based upon Kahn was Walter Matthau's maverick character Professor Groteschele in Fail-Safe, in which a nuclear crisis forces the President (played by Henry Fonda) to order the U.S. Air Force to bomb New York in order to avert an all-out nuclear war.
:The description in this sentence of Goteschele's role in the movie could afford some elaboration. I think there needs to be a link made between Fonda's and Matthau's roles in that second part of the sentence or it becomes just a superfluous review of the movie with no particular relationship to Kahn. Not to nitpick, but the "in which" linking the first phrase and the second seems grammatically a bit awkward.
Pat 04:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural Influence 

message: In the Background section, the information on Herman kahn's family is formally unencyclopedic. It seems as though it was written by either a person who is ignorant of conventional writing or is under the pressure of haste.Lestrade 19:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreein.' If I'm not mistaken, there's a seperate Wiki project dealing entirely with family trees and such. It should be there. I'm deleting it. tildetildetildetilde  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.114.231.10 (talk) 06:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Matters

message: According to Tim Leary in an interview with Paul Krassner in the Realist, this man did LSD, and it changed his life. Should that be included?
:I know several people who were peers or protégé's of Herman, he never did LSD.  That is a pop culture myth perpetuated by people who likely sought/seek to assassinate his character for a variety of reasons.  Suffice it to say, there is no way to effectively describe why here, but I fully trust these people, and I am confident in saying Herman never "dropped acid." - 72.83.168.197 12:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Timothy Leary, as an addictive drug pusher, had in interest in making it seem that drugs are acceptable and used by famous people. His veracity should always be doubted, especially when he made such assertions.Lestrade 22:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: LSD

message: I added a reference to something in Cultural Influence, but although there is a ref list, for some reason I see no references in the whole article? Very odd... — talk § Arsenic99 04:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference problems? 

message: What was his weight when he died?Lestrade (talk) 20:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that and removed it, finding it rather priggish in tone, and inherently POV-pushing and moralistic editorializing. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Corpulence

message: Removed this sentence from the Hudson Institute section:
The organization challenged the public policies of left-wing groups like the Club of Rome.
It's just silly to call the Club of Rome "left-wing"...perhaps a NPOV version would be: "The organization sought to challenge liberal internationalism as expressed in the views of organizations such as the Club of Rome."  I don't know if this is *actually* true that the Hudson Institute did this (ie critiqued the Club of Rome), but just offering a suggested NPOV text to replace POV text...adding a citation would be useful though if the text goes back.--Goldsztajn (talk) 14:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Kahn did indeed counter the Club of Rome's views on the future. Kahn's technological optimism is expressed in The year 2000 and World economic development, and mentioned in his obituary in The Times, 9 July 1983. Also note The coming boom, (1983). Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club of Rome reference in Hudson Institute section 

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message: Is known in which US army unit Kahn served in Burma and when exactly ? Thank you, --Schlackfax (talk) 15:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Army service /WW-2 

message: This is presently linked in Further reading, but I'm seeing malware warnings when accessing that site.  The URL does render, so not a dead link, but thought I would note it. Thanks. Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 22:00, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the current site appears to just be aggregations of other content blended together on top of a very old site; most likely domain expired and was taken over by someone else. That in itself isn't disqualifying, but I question the value of the pdf linked to - it's someone else's memoir, and while it does discuss Herman Kahn to some extent, it's a step well removed from the subject of this article. I'd be inclined to remove it, but just because I have an opinion about it doesn't make it my bailiwick. The book is available on archive.org, so I'll replace the link to go to that instead.  cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 22:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Roger that.  I too am not solid on inclusion, but will defer to others on this one.  Thanks for the link update.--Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 23:00, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samuel T. Cohen, Fuck You Mr. President: Confessions of the Father of the Neutron Bomb