Talk:1976 Zagreb mid-air collision

message: Thirty years ago, on 10 September 1976, the two aircraft collided over Zagreb killing 176 people on board.
Rest in peace all who died, and rest in peace Mr. Gradimir Tasic.
Jonathan McFly 00:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 30th anniversary

message: What exactly classifies this particular accident as "one of the worst accidents in aviation history"? I recently read every article on WP regarding aircraft accidents and noted many with greater loss of life and greater property damages. While I am sure that anyone involved in this accident, especially survivors of the victims, may feel an immense impact on their own lives, I fail to see a need to classify this as "one of the worst accidents in aviation history". The choice of words makes it seem slightly POV, at least that is how I took it. This is in no way meant to be a detraction from anyone who feels strongly about this article, merely an observation that the article does not seem to conform in this one tiny spot. Any comments from anyone?Radiooperator 04:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worst? 

message: It should be left British Airways and not British European Airways, because BEA article says "...BEA ceased operations in 1974 when it was merged with the British Overseas Airways Corporation to form British Airways...", and the accident occured two years later in 1976. However they continuned using BEA callsign for some time...
Comments ?
Jonathan McFly 08:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The aircraft had been repainted with the British Airways wording by the time of the accident - see photo of accident A/C taken in June 1976 here;   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.57.101 (talk) 16:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that there are both BEA and British Airways logos on the spoons found after the accident: . Of course, spoon is not something you change after the merger...  Imbe  hind 💊 12:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  BA/BEA 

message: Seems like most of the text on this page is a slightly altered copy-paste from this page. --Action Jackson IV 21:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyvio? 

message: The article mentions BA Flight 149, saying that one passenger was executed.  Execution means lawfully putting someone to death after an appropriate judicial process.  If this is not what happened, then the passenger was murdered, not executed.
Robhowe163 (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  executed or murdered? 

message: I've just added a ref for the Lufthansa aircraft reporting the fireball. That entire paragraph is a word-for-word copy of the source, Mjroots (talk) 05:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: Wasn't there a late-1970s or early-1980s drama about this incident?  I am about 99% sure that I recall seeing it on TV back in the 1980s, an European drama... may have been subtitled.  If so it should be added to the article. -70.233.148.177 (talk) 04:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're thinking of Granada TV's Collision Course (1979), which dramatised the incident. 91.125.138.102 (talk) 17:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Motion picture

message: I've edited this article to reflect the aircraft being a -32. That is what the AAIB reports describe it as. Please do not change it back to a -31 without explaining which source supports that information.
(The infobox picture is definitely of a -33; changed the text there appropriately). Pinkbeast (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on discussion at User_talk:STH235SilverLover#1976_Zagreb_mid-air_collision, I suspect this change is often made because Aviation Safety Network lists it as a -31. http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/McDonnell-Douglas/DC-9/47649,YU-AJR-Inex-Adria-Airways.php (which I'm not claiming is a RS to use in the article, merely speculating as to the reason for this discrepancy) claims it was built as a -31 in '74 then rebuilt as a -32 earlier in '76. That would explain it. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:07, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  -31 or -32 

message: The article says "All 176 people aboard both flights, plus one person on the ground, were killed, making it, at the time, the world's deadliest mid-air collision.[1]". But I couldn't find any other source for the person killed on the ground besides the referenced Time article. Even in the Croatian newspaper report, interviewed people from Vrbovec (site of the crash) don't mention anybody on the ground dying.
:The AAIB report makes no mention of ground casualties either, that I can see. I agree it should be removed. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the Time article says that "at least one woman, working on her farm, was killed by the debris". This seems specific enough ("at least one" put aside), but indeed I couldn't find other sources that mention ground casualties, not even Croatian articles that focus on the impact the accident had on the local population. So it appears that Time is in error here, and that the correct fatality figure is 176. GregorB (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  176 or 177? 

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message: "When the implications of what was being said dawned on Erjavec, he glanced across to the upper-sector controller. At his station sat a stunned Tasić, white-faced with shock. Slowly he lifted the headset from his ears and placed it on the console in front of him." This seems more like something you'd find in a novel than an encyclopedia.BlueNexa (talk) 12:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accident section reads more like a novel than an encyclopedia 

message: There is a 2 part documentary made recently by Croatian television, and can be found here:
# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xseTzHv0kFA
# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_TynNI37ww
No subtitles, I'm afraid. RIP.  Imbe  hind 💊 12:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Granada Television one is also here:   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.126.91 (talk) 10:50, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New documentary