Talk:Crédit Agricole (cycling team)

message: Does this guy exist? If he does, why does he not appear on the UCI's website or Crédit Agricole's website? The rider roster is cited as factually correct (insofar as the UCI provides correct facts) - to add him without an additional cite is poor form. Please can we find a citation that he does indeed exist and ride for Crédit Agricole or I'll remove him again. Thanks, SeveroTC 19:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Severo, the guy doesn't come up on a Google search even; I'm going to remove him - it doesn't feel like even vaguely solid information. It's also the only thing that Italiancycling has posted. If the UCI doesn't list Salomon as a cyclist, I think it best that we don't add him to Crédit Agricole's page. kju 14:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If he exists, it needs citation. Wikipedia:Verifiability: Editors should provide a reliable source for ... any material that is challenged. Thanks, SeveroTC 22:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This revision seems to explain Italiancycling's addition, but gives no reliable source. We first need to know what country he is from - the French cycling association site doesn't list him but that assumes he is French.  I can't work out sufficient Italian to successfully navigate the Italian site. kju 03:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Italiancycling is putting his nationality in as USA. I can't find any mention of this character or indeed of Crédit Agricole's track activities. I'm dubious at best. It is unfortunate that Italiancycling doesn't wish to discuss this despite requests here and at his talk page, and that his only edits (both as Italiancycling and 66.75.152.124) relate to this person. SeveroTC 10:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found him! According to this he is a stagiaire with Crédit Agricole, (so he isn't an actual team member) he is Swiss-American and his surname is spelt Solomon, not Salomon.  However I still can't find him on the USA Cycling site and my German is too crap to find him on the Swiss Cycling site (unhelpfully it uses Java for some of the menus and that won't translate on Google Translate).  Wanna give it a shot? kju 13:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay I'm getting more confused here. According to the UCI regulations , article 2.15.110, you can only take stagiares on after August 1 - ten weeks away. A rider cannot be a stagiare at this time of the season. SeveroTC 14:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: What's up with signing your posts under another name, that of a user who doesn't exist? You might want to double check the Talk page guidelines. Anyway, the Wikipedia standard is this: Wikipedia:Verifiability: Editors should provide a reliable source for ... any material that is challenged. Reliable means someone else is able to go away and check it. Both myself and kju have looked for references to this person, and have only found one obscure one. Perhaps you could find another one? SeveroTC 22:48, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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