Talk:Over the Rainbow

message: Surely Kylie Minogue isn't the only notable recording artist to have released a cover of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow". Extraordinary Machine 17:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging from [[Over the Rainbow (Kylie Minogue single)]] 

message: Does the original name of the song include the word "Somewhere" at the beginning? The Wikipedia article on the film refers to the song simply as "Over the Rainbow," and that is how the lead section of the article begins as well. If so, wouldn't it be better to move this to "Over the Rainbow"? Also, if the title is supposed to include "Somewhere," should the word "over" be capitalized? I noticed that recently the article was moved from "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" to "Somewhere over the Rainbow." I understand that with normal capitalization rules, prepositions are not capitalized, but I have never seen this song spelled with the letter "o" lowercase in actual use. "Over" is capitalized in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest" and "Someone to Watch Over Me," but then again, "Bridge Over Troubled Water" was moved to "Bridge over Troubled Water," (capitalization I haven't seen in practice either). What are others' thoughts on this? ~ Reminiscent 23:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "o" should remain in lowercase form if the title is begins with "Somewhere." "Over" is a preposition and it is also below (and not equal) five letters. See dictionary.com. Prepositions (under five letters) should not be capitalized unless if it is part of a idiom, or if it is actually an adverb, or a has a different meaning. The four-letter preposition "from" is often wrtiten in lowercase form in titles of authored works as well. --Jivi 00:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of the song/article 

message: *Support. See comment someone made up this talk page. Georgia guy 20:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: Does she really need six lines about her version? 139.62.166.77 20:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Katherine McPhee

message: Is it necessary to include so many names in the article? Just wondering. Xiner (talk, email) 18:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Order the covers in chronological order, whether in the right-hand bar (with or without years in parentheses, but keep it consistent), in the article itself, or both. Yay or nay? Someone want to do it? Little nanita (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artist covers 

message: There is no version by Norah Jones. The internet one is fake, that is not her voice.
I think the blink 182 version is also fake
:This is true. The real artist is Aslein Debison and the cover appears on her album, Sweet Is the Melody. Look in iTunes! Little nanita (talk) 05:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norah Jones 

message: The article makes constant reference to a second verse, and also briefly to an introductory verse. I was curious to read the lyrics after that but was disappointed the page did not have it. Do you thnk it's worth including? Argonith April 29,2007
I strongly agree with the opinion above, particularly the lyrics for that almost unknown second verse!MCSmarties 04:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SUPPORT Little nanita (talk) 05:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding the Lyrics 

message: (sorry i'm not english...)
Norah Jones didn't sing this song, fans confuse Norah Jones with Aselin Debison. The voice is to high pitched for Norah Jones and the voice is like like a kid voice. blink 182 is a fake too. Fans confuse Jimi Hendrix with Chris Impellitteri too and Chris Impellitteri is written both on the list. Deep Purple is (i think) a fake too.
--Dangvucau 00:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Norah Jones/Aselin Debison is fixed. Here's a link to a supposed blink 182 "Over the Rainbow" cover. I'm a blink listener, but not a dedicated enough fan to know if this is them or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ozpX1O2wc . And find some sources for the Chris Imellitteri/Queen/Jimi Hendrix issue and I'll gladly change it! Deep Purple as well.. Investigate, guys!! Little nanita (talk) 05:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  What about Metallica? This is the first time I read about them playing or even recording this song.--80.133.212.154 (talk) 15:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fakes 

message: I feel there should be a separate page for this song as it is technically a different song - then on that page the info about Cliff Richard's cover version and single release details can be put on there.
:SUPPORT Aselin Debison's version could also be covered there. Little nanita (talk) 05:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel Kamakawiwo'ole 

message: I have tried to make a number of improvements. I have done it using a series of edits to help make it easier to see what has been done. I hope others find them to be real improvements. If you have any objections, then let's discuss them here and make sure the article ends up in better condition than it was. -- Fyslee / talk 03:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series of edits 

message: 1.) Chronological order!
2.) Year in parentheses?
3.) Is there a way to link the names in the right bar to the description of their specific cover in the Covers section? If so, I think it should be done.
4.) Everyone who is in the sidebar should have a description, but not vice versa.
Actually, I'm just going to eliminate the list of covers in the sidebar and link it to the covers section, haha. Little nanita (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side bar 

message: Given that this is such a popular song, can someone please verify the orchestrator for the original film version? It might be found in the liner notes for the various CD deluxe editions or perhaps Fordin's book on the Freed unit. Imdb.com lists 3 orchestrators apart from the musical director.GBS2 (talk) 17:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Page 61 of The Making of The Wizard of Oz: Movie Magic and Studio Power in the Prime of MGM and the Miracle of Production #1060 (by Aljean Harmetz (New York, N.Y.: Dell Publishing (1989))) identifies the orchestral and vocal arrangements being done by George Bassman, Murray Cutter, Paul Marquardt, and Ken Darby.Jim Dunning | talk 19:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we know orchestrator for original film version? 

message: This song is in no way a Ballad; not by any definition.  A Ballad tells a story.  This song is nothing more than self-indulgent musing out loud.  It does not, in and of itself, advance a story-line separate from that of the movie, nor does it contribute to the overall story being told by the movie.
To illustrate this point, consider the following examples of true Ballads from the popular culture of the past five or six decades:
The Ballad of Paladin;
The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle; and
Kenny Rogers' The Gambler.
Note how each has a story, with a beginning, a middle and an end.  Admittedly, Paladin's story is a brief one, nevertheless it contains the essential ingredients of a Ballad.
Lengthier, and much older examples, include the iconic Australian poems, The Man From Snowy River and Waltzing Matilda.
Also, the use of the word "classic" in the opening line of the article is emotive and subjective.  Many would indeed consider this song to be a classic but the use of the word here adds nothing factual to the article.
Thank you for your consideration.  Sir Scott-A-Lot (talk) 13:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "This song is in no way a Ballad; not by any definition." How about this one, straight from a dictionary, "A popular song especially of a romantic or sentimental nature." — Matt Crypto 16:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmmmmm. It could certainly be described as sentimental or wistful.173.72.136.143 (talk) 16:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

text: "This song is in no way a Ballad; not by any definition." It certainly is. A ballad in one sense, the one intended here I think, is simply a slow song or piece. The word has that sense in jazz, at least. The internal link is misleading, to the wrong sense of 'ballad'. 122.148.184.131 (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not A Ballad. 

message: In the movie 9 by Shane Acker the character 5 dies to this song in the background. Should we add something about this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.53.37 (talk) 22:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe in the article about the movie 9. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Probably a thousand of them; it's one of the most recorded and most used songs of all times. Wikipedia is not a random list of trivia. --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  9 

message: The second hour of the Tom Ashbrook WBUR On Point radio interview show on July 15, 2010 was devoted to Judy Collins performing Over the Rainbow on her currently released album “Paradise.” On the show she performs the additional lyrics introductory verse. "Also just out is the new children’s book, “Over the Rainbow,” with lyrics from the classic song and illustrations by Eric Puybaret.  The book is accompanied by a CD of Judy Collins performing “Over the Rainbow,” along with two other songs." See onpointradio.org/2010/07/collins-rainbow or listen to the whole show
audio.wbur.org/storage/2010/07/onpoint_0715_2.mp3
"It was not Irving Berlin who supplied the coda, it was Ira Gershwin who offered the “If Happy Little Bluebirds fly…can’t I?” and Harburg liked it and accepted it. I believe this took place in Los Angeles."
Complete original main lyrics can be found at
stlyrics.com/lyrics/thewizardofoz/somewhereovertherainbow.htm
There is a link there to a moving audio recording on youtube, apparently of Judy Garland as an adult, definitely not the movie soundtrack.
When and where was this recording made? -71.174.187.200 (talk) 23:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judy Collins interview July 15, 2010 

message: Exactly what does this mean: "It was not until 1956, when MGM released the thirty-second true soundtrack album from the film.."
Were there 31 previous soundtrack albums released? Is "thirty-second" a measure of time? I have reworded this part as:
"It was not until 1956, when MGM released the true soundtrack album from the film, that the film version of the song was made available to the public."Guyburns (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion over "thirty-second" 

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message: If we can find a source for this, i would like to add that Keith Jarrett closes his solo concerts with Tin Pan Alley songs, often this one (this from the article on his koln concert recording). I note this article doesnt mention tin pan alley.(mercurywoodrose)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Other performances

message: Quote: It's the birthday of American composer and pianist Harold Arlen, born Hyman Arluck, in Buffalo (1905), the son of a musician. In the mid-1920s, he met lyricist Ted Koehler; together they collaborated on such tunes as "Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea" and "I've Got the World on a String." Among his many Broadway and Hollywood songs are "It's Only a Paper Moon," "That Old Black Magic," and "Somewhere Over the Rainbow."
Anyone know more about this? Possibly a mistake in the Writer's Almanac? ( Martin |  talk • contribs  20:35, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Mistake. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writer's Almanac for Feb 15, 2014 - Ted Koehler, lyricist for Rainbow? 

message: While reading David Mccullough's book on the Wright brothers there is reference made to a wildly known and memorized and read poem by J T Trowbridge called Darious Green and his flying machine popular from the turn of the century on. Some lines from it include If birds can fly then why can't I and Also a reference to Bluebirds...Something that the songwriter may have heard and remembered.2602:304:5D33:3B49:30D3:F9BB:50E2:1987 (talk) 16:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Got any sources that discuss the possible source of these phrases? "Birds can fly; why can't I?" seems a pretty common and obvious trope, though I guess it's possible that Trowbridge was the first to use it. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:30, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  lyrics-origins 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: this article contains a lot of history about the song if someone has the time to go through it for facts. -- Ssilvers (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: History of the song

message: on youtube there is a version ascribed to bob marley ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9brkjrb5Q&feature=youtu.be ). it includes the medley with "what a wonderful world", whereas the youtube-kamakawiwo'ole-version does not include the medley... could someone knowledgeable clarify this, please. the marley-version seems to be a fake... thanx! --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 16:43, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: bob-marley-version??

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article mentions a rare recording of Judith Garland singing Over The Rainbow with the introductory lyrics. It is referenced in a now unavailable page. The recording can currently be found in another page of the same site : http://www.thejudyroom.com/radiosongs.html (instead of http://www.thejudyroom.com/media/songs.html).
New to contributing to wikipedia, how can I edit the article to link to the correct page? Should I change the link and remove the archived one ? Keep everything and mention the latest link beneath ?
Thanks for your guidance.
Sakkaoui (talk) 16:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd replace the archived one; we only need one link. It will probably end up as an archived link eventually, but since there's a perfectly good live page, use it. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇  16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference update 

message: The main theme of Rainbow Islands copies the notes in the intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNeXw1fB5o8&ab_channel=VintaGamersParadise It was changed in later releases and was mentioned in the article for Rainbow Islands, so why isn't it mentioned here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.230.53 (talk) 19:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rainbow Islands Main Theme 

message: I was tutoring someone and editing their assignment for submission. The assignment was a response to a given concert. In helping with the research, I discovered that Eric Clapton covered Over the Rainbow. He seems to have performed it on December 4th, 2001 in Chiyoda, Tokyo, Japan at the Nippon Budokan Arena. "Live in Japan."76.67.184.181 (talk) 01:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it meet WP:COVERSONG? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇  15:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clapton sang a version of Over the Rainbow 

message: The sheet music available for download via the link given appears to be an arrangement, a different version that is very unlike the movie soundtrack. It is in a different key (G major) and uses many different chords and chord progressions that are inventions and not in the original score. The song was composed in A flat which is indeed the key Garland performs it in. The film's soundtrack is mainly comprised of strings which suggest and weave around a chordal framework without actually playing many obvious chords; there is in addition a sparse sprinkling of melodies from the wind section. Elsewhere there is a complete absence of pianos, guitars or ukuleles playing any chords like the linked sheet music suggests. 
Because of its loose structure and ethereal atmosphere the actual score would appear rather 'empty' on paper. Most of the arrangements we see online and in print are highly embellished and fail to capture the simplicity of the original by overcomplicating it - to the point of putting half a dozen chord changes in a measure that only has one or two chords at most!
I have yet to come across a proper score (perhaps none exists?) and I suggest that the link to the inauthentic sheet music be deleted. Wokepedian (talk) 04:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it's a crap arrangement. Gone. (You could have done so yourself, by the way.) --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇  04:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Sheet Music link 

message: because I am not sure why it was put in.  If there is a reason for it please talk about it here.  Carptrash (talk) 05:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just removed Category :LGBT-related songs