Talk:Chia Thye Poh

message: Can anyone points me to the exact location where Chia Thye Poh was held house-arrested? Many thanks. :)
Fort Silosa, Sentosa. Western side of the island. Look for the one-room guard house.NonlisteningFriend 11:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Location of House Arrest

message: Such as through the Institute of Social Studies in the Netherlands. I have made a couple of requests to his email address today:
To :  chia@iss.nl 
Dear Sir,
I am desiring to develop your biographical entry at the English wikipedia 
Are you able to provide a free image of yourself to fit in the biography? 
In addition, are you able to direct me to any information that describes the nature of your activities since 1998?
etc. ChiaThyePohExample 03:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Since 1998 he has been 'permitted' on speaking tours and to take up academic work outside Singapore 

message: Any assistance in this regard greatly appreciated.NonlisteningFriend 11:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This needs an image of the biographical subject. Badly. Don't think I don't realise that 

message: Commons does not accept fair use images, which is why it was removed. You can try uploading on en wikipedia, but wikipedia too is moving away from fair use images and it might not last long either. Best way is to get a free use image from Chia himself. --Rifleman 82 02:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, & thank you for good work you've done combining references on this article so far. As of yet, no responses from the subject by email.NonlisteningFriend 04:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Chia Thye Poh 

message: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40817F934590C768EDDAB0894D1494D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fP%2fPolitical%20Prisoners 
41 years imprisonment in South Korea, ending 1999.NonlisteningFriend 08:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now the subject of an article I created - Woo Yong GakNonlisteningFriend 11:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A longer-serving political prisoner 

message: This article failed review based on the quick-fail criteria. Good article candidates cannot contain fact tags. The article needs additional referencing and references need to be properly formatted with all available information included, including retrieval dates. The issues were pointed out by the nominator which is confusing to me. I'm not sure why the article was put on the WP:GAC list to begin with, honestly. Work to improve the article based on the criteria listed at WP:WIAGA. Once these standards are met, the article may be renominated. If you disagree with this, you may seek remediation at WP:GA/R. Regards, Lara♥Love 03:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I pointed out areas where I wanted to develop the article in its nomination. I was being honest all around including my view that the article was well-written and well-referenced with the information it had at the time. As it stands, I'm waiting for some comments and reactions from the biographical subject himself who is a living person (& a free man :) ). He may also be able to come forward with a photo of himself as a free image for inclusion here.Thank you for reviewing.NonlisteningFriend 04:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It occurs to me that when (and if) he does respond, the information he provides may be difficult to cite. After all, it would be just my say-so to the effect that he emailed me back confirming his birthdate was X, his religion is Y, and he received degrees Z1 and Z2 etc. I could post the correspondences up on a blog, but then blogs are derogated as WP:RS. I note that blogrefs have been excised recently and replaced with 'citation needed' tags.NonlisteningFriend 04:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No fear, since he's currently in the academia, there must be academic journals written by him or by his peers which usually carries a short intro of the subject & the subject's academic credentials. Copies of such journals could be available online (usually in PDF format) which we are not fully aware of yet or via privileged access or even paid subscription. u can ask him to cite such sources for use as reliable references shld he respond subsequently. -- Aldwinteo 05:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nomination review

message: This is a blog by Carl Parkes the author of 
"Singapore Handbook (1st edition)", published by Moon Travel Handbooks. He states that Chia was held for "22 years in Whitley Road Detention Centre". To my understanding, that place is distinct from Moon Crescent Detention Centre.
 This blog entry explains that from May 1970 almost all longterm political prisoners were detained in Moon Crescent - "a purpose built political wing of Changi Prison". It continues "political detainees are frequently kept in solitary confinement for anything up to six months, either at Whitley Road Holding Centre or at other undisclosed Special Branch Holding Centres. Once a detainee is served with a detention order under Section 8 of the Internal Security Act, he is almost invariably transferred to the Moon Crescent Detention Centre.
NonlisteningFriend 08:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blogrefs, venues for his detention 

message: The publisher is 'Shaker Publishing'. See here - NonlisteningFriend 08:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publication of his thesis 

message: # As noted above, a picture of the person is needed. If you get a pic directly from him, make sure it comes with an email (ideally) that gives permission for wikipedia to use it. Otherwise, try asking on picture peer review; they can sometimes find images through the LOC or something.
# Also to preempt the dialogue in the GAR above, information that you collect directly from Poh himself will not count as cited material, as this is original research.
# Several sections are either do not follow either WP:Layout and/or WP:MOS. A longer, more in-depth "early life" section is needed to bring this article up to the "broad coverage/focused" criteria. The "writing" section also needs more than just a bibliographic reference: it needs a description of the work, as well as why it's important.
# The succession box after "writing" is confusing and unnecessary--at first glance it appears to be related to the "writing" section, and the only info it contains can be found in the info box.
# Prose--one line paragraphs break the flow of the prose, are against WP:Layout, and are generally indicative of insufficient coverage of the material.
# Lead: try to avoiding citations in the lead; any info in the lead that would need a citation should appear (cited) in the body of the article. Moreover, the last part of the first sentence needs to be fixed; which is it? Is he the longest serving prisoner of conscience? Is he the longest serving political prisoner? As an enc. article, that sentence needs to say yes or no, not maybe.
# Wlink dates for date preferences.
# The quotes in the "sentosa" section need attribution (the name of the guy at the end of the quotation) and citation. The section, as a whole, needs more material. What is being presented right now put the burden of interpreation/analysis on the reader. Instead, it is the article that should dissect the quotation, describe the situation, present the info, etc.
Please leave a comment either here or on my talk page if you have questions. Best of luck on this article.
On Hold until 24 March 2008. If significant progress is not made by that time, the nomination may be failed without further notice.
--Malachirality (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, unsuccessful. Unfortunately no action has been taken on this nom. Feel free to re-nominate when these issues have been addressed. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 02:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  preliminary GA Review 

message: Received news that Chia Thye Poh has just received an award from LLG Cultural Development Centre of Malaysia for what he stood for, for many people living in this part of the world.
http://www.llgcultural.com/eng/
This is my first post without an earlier test...
Patchlover (talk) 09:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chia Thye Poh receives award 

message: Was he born in 1941 or 1933? See third paragraph of "Arrest and imprisonment" section. --Huang (talk) 07:12, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth date 

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