Talk:Darius

message: Darius Kasparitis is not currently in the NHL. I've updated the disambiguation page to show this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.167.219.97 (talk) 00:28, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Edit: Updated Kasparitis 

message: Darius the Mede currently redirects here. But does Darius the Mede need disambiguation at all? Is there any other Darius the Mede other than the one in the Book of Daniel? Andrewa (talk) 05:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Darius the Mede

message: Why nothing about Darius the 4-foot-something, 50-pound rabbit? --92.19.13.126 (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabbit 

message: The section "Modern" seems to have a half hearted attempt to be alphabetical... but should be re-edited if that is the desired result.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.106.116 (talk) 12:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabetical? 

message: There is no Dario/Darijo name in slavic people other than Croats (which aquired it from Italians). It is common name in Croatia, and well, if there is any other Dario in slavic country other than Croatia, it must be as often as in non-slavic countries where name is NOT common.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AurgelmirCro (talk • contribs) 20:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dario in languages 

message: I suggest moving this page to Darius (disambiguation) so that Darius I of Persia can be made WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (pending the outcome of this discussion). He is the only individual on this list who can reasonably be designated simply as "Darius" on first reference, and this is in fact his usual designation. Kauffner (talk) 05:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose this move on the grounds that Darius III is not much less well-known.  I woiuld be interested to see which shources refer to him as simply Darius on first mention, and in what context (e.g. are there no works on Alexander the Great which refer to Darius III as Darius on first mention?).  I went into this on the other page.  I am getting confused about where we are having these discussion, tried following the links but just went round in circles. PatGallacher (talk) 12:21, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In Marathon 490 BC: the first Persian invasion of Greece, the first Darius is given simply as "Darius" 16 times, never as "Darius I" or "Darius the Great."  In Alexander the Great by Richard Stoneman, the first mention of the third Darius is "Darius III" (p. 16). In Britannica, the article for Darius I is 1,300 words long; The one for Darius III is 300 words. If you look at this ngram, you'll see that vastly more books give "Darius" than give "Darius III" or are any of the other elaborations that struck me as plausible. Obviously, a hit for "Darius III" is also a hit for "Darius." But even if you subtract the elaborations from the number of books containing "Darius", it is clear that most authors use just plain "Darius" and do not elaborate even at first mention. Nearly half the "Darius" hits on Google Books are Persian related, so this gap cannot be explained by modern celebrities named Darius. At most, the modern celebrities can explain the rise in the use of "Darius" since 2000. Kauffner (talk) 13:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Kaufner, so are you saying that we should ignore 2500 years of literature and history books and base this discussion on a single book that you found about the Battle of Marathon which you claim never mentions "the Great"? Why?Ordibehesht22 (talk) 01:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion is about the primary topic issue, i.e. when a reader types in simply "Darius" as a search term, who is he likely to be referring to? If you want to comment on "the Great" issue, there is a separate discussion here. Also take a look at this ngram. Kauffner (talk) 01:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

text: After PatGallacher objected to my honoring the CSD request and then making the move, I have re-examined this and I agree that the move was incorrect without a proper move discussion - as there are so many possible "Darius" targets, I don't think it is clear cut that Darius I of Persia is an uncontroversial primary target. As PatGallacher has already reverted the move, I have now also reverted several redirects so they are also back the way they were. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I requested that Darius (disambiguation) be speedy deleted so that it would be possible to move the DAB there without further administer involvement should that be the outcome of the discussion here. The move itself was a part that action, not something I specifically requested. The DAB remained the primary topic throughout this episode and I did not change that. I have already voted against moving Darius I of Persia on that page. The name of the Darius I article will be determined by an admin based on the vote on that page. I am assuming that the new name will not be "Darius", as that would make any discussion here pointless. "Primary topic" means that "Darius" would be a redirect to "Darius I of Persia." I certainly didn't expected any of this to be controversial, although now it looks like a formal move request will be necessary. Kauffner (talk) 18:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd just like to point out that the singer Darius Campbell is, to many, known just as Darius, and he used a mononym to release his music. –anemoneprojectors– 18:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Yes, I'd like to confirm that the decision to do the move was mine (and that mistake was mine). However, the reason given for the deletion of the target was that it was holding up a page move, and had that move not already been agreed, there was actually no justification for deleting the target page - if a move is not agreed, the target should not be deleted. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and concerning ""Primary topic" means that "Darius" would be a redirect to "Darius I of Persia."", I don't think that's valid - I might be wrong, but I don't see how a primary topic can be a redirect - something gets to be a primary topic if it is a natural candidate for an article by that actual name. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "The primary topic for "Danzig" is the former German city of that name, but the article on that city is titled Gdańsk. Therefore Danzig redirects to Gdańsk". So the issue here is whether 'Darius I of Persia' is the primary topic of 'Darius', while the issue of the article title can be discussed separately. Kauffner (talk) 02:19, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, that's true. In the case of 'Darius', I don't think it's at all obvious that 'Darius I of Persia' would be considered the primary topic - so I would have to oppose the move -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Google rankings () show Darius I/Darius the Great as topic No. 1, Darius Campbell as No. 2 (some Scottish boy toy, apparently), and no other Darius that is even in the running. Kauffner (talk) 13:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Google rankings aren't sufficient - "Primary topic" does not mean "most common topic". What we need is evidence that a particular topic is usually associated with that name by most people, and I just don't think that is the case with "Darius". As an example, ask 100 people what "Danzig" is and what "Darius" is - I expect a lot will tell you that Danzig is a city, but very few will have any clue about Darius I. Also, the more alternatives there are in the disambig page, the less likely it is that there's a clear Primary topic. As it says at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it has to be "the case that one of these topics is highly likely—much more likely than any other, and more likely than all the others combined—to be the subject being sought when a reader enters that ambiguous term in the Search box". In the case of "Darius", I really don't think we have that. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary topic

message: Can  someone edit Darius the crown Prince of Artaxerxes II, who was Co Ruler with his father and killed so that Artaxerxes III Ochus could become king. His son Arbupales fought at Granicus 335 against Alexander III of Macedon. 2003:E7:F703:EAB5:DD47:65E7:ABBA:1C65 (talk) 21:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darius, son of Artaxerxes II is missing. He was Co Ruler with his father and had a son Arbupales, who was killed in battle 335 at Granicud against Alexander III of Macedonia.