Talk:Terek Cossacks

message: Including statements such as "ruthlessly massacred" without a reliable source backing it is a violation of WP:NPOV. Both nationalities (Russians and Chechens) experienced population loss because of the war. Russians had the support of powerful Russian federal army and portraying them as helpless victims is twisting the facts. Aminullah 07:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This took place in 1990-94 before the first Chechen war, it was a systematic attack on the Russian minority. In 1989 the Russians made up nearly a third of the population, 300 thousand people. In 2002 there was only 40 thousand or so left. At the same time the Chechen population increased. It is called genocide. --Kuban Cossack 09:50, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Where's the figure from? I'm curious btw, the cossacks settled on whole the Terek river, in ossetia and kabardino-balkaria as well. How come no large communities survived there? Because of Stalin?- PietervHuis (talk) 03:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all because the Terek River effectively forms the largely the northern border of the tow republics. Second there are large Terek Cossacks communities in Mozdok and Vladikavkaz, same with northern Kabardia. Also Stalin actually restored the historic province of the Rowing Cossacks, the Kizlyar District, and the Naursky and Shelkovsky districts of Chechnya, as well as the Terek-Sunzha river basin (which was the historic districts of Terek Cossacks) by forming the Grozny Oblast. Most of the ethnic Chechen districts began just south of the Sunzha. Have a look yourself . That was 18th century. --Kuban Cossack 12:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Well which books are they? The map shows an uninhabited void, but in the early 20th century during the time of the Soviet Mountain Republic the Terek Cossacks had their own Sunzha Cossack District right in that gap: :ru:Изображение:Горская АССР.png. --Kuban Cossack 21:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Please spare us of your anti-Russian POV. Cossacks DEFENDED Russia from being repeatedly robbed by the likes of Marauding Chechens, Crimean Tatars and the Nogais. The Gap's southern border was the Sunzha line, built by Yermolov, prior to the 16th century which was when the Cossacks migrated, the Nogais lived in the north, and the Chechens still geographically were only in the earliest phase of their national consiounce. I do know that visibly the Terek Cossacks look much more closer to Vainakhs than to Slavs, I guess the "robbing" included swapping brides and living amongst one another, as stated here: Вот и мне так подумалось: что за Чечня без казаков? Ведь сколько лет вместе живем, обратились, переженились, мало, чем отличаемся, друг от друга и формой одежды и привычками... значит, и к свободе нам идти вместе мирным, цивилизованным путем, овладевая знаниями и прогрессом.--Kuban Cossack 21:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: I found this cool photograph maybe we can add it? - PietervHuis (talk) 02:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: In the International reaction to the 2008 South Ossetia war article, reference is made to the ataman of the Terek Cossacks.  So why is this whole article in the past tense, if the Terek Cossacks Host still exists?  Scolaire (talk) 18:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past tense 

message: Dzhokkar Dudayev's WIFE was Russian. Ethnic cleansing of Russians? Genocide? So she should've been killed or fled too, right? Lol. 
Dudayev actually suppressed anti-ethnic Russian sentiment (not anti-Russian sentiment, directed at the state rather than the people). The last thing he wanted was his country being destabilized by ethnic feuding. 
And, for some comments from some ethnic Russians themselves on this matter- the economists Boris Lvin and Andrei Iliaronov-some Russians themselves noting the ridiculousness of these nationalistic claims: 
The Chechen authorities are regularly accused of crimes against the population, especially the Russian-speaking people. However, before the current war the emigration of the Russian-speaking population from Chechnya was no more intense than that from Kalmykia, Tuva and Sakha-Yakutia. In Grozny itself there remained a 200,000 strong Russian-speaking population which did not hasten to leave it.Written by economists Boris Lvin and Andrei Iliaronov. Moscow News. Feb 24- March 2, 1995
...so let's leave aside our propagandistic insistence on how Chechens "ethnically cleansed" Russians. And let's turn our attention to the fact that 4 out of 5 Russians in Chechnya lived in Grozny, which was bombed flat to the ground by the government and military of their ethnic kin. Of course, Russian politicians don't like to admit this, and prefer to paint it as the latest atrocity by the Chechens... even though they couldn't wipe the Russians from Chechnya if they tried, in light of the privileged economic position and the international response if they attempted such a thing (contrasting with how much Russia has managed to get away with due to its position as a UN security member). So, please, don't make me read this again. 
And yes, I understand that them being Russians does not make them pro-Russian. Dzhabrail Gakayev claims to be Chechen and often backs the Russian government on issues. But there's a key difference here: Gakayev is in the pay of the Russian government (literally, his job is in it) whereas Iliaronov and Lvin have no connection whatsoever to the Chechen government and much the opposite, as both have had years where they worked in the Russian government. Lvin and Iliaronov are not knee-jerk anti-Russonationalists, they are simply reasonable economists who try to see things through clear glasses.--Yalens (talk) 16:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Even Russians themselves know its not ethnic cleansing

message: Why on earth are we giving the area in obsolete imperial Russian units of measurement? Shouldn't we be converting to square kilometers and/or square miles? john k (talk) 17:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  desyatinas? 

message: See footnotes in North Caucasus Line. There may be a proper study in Russian, but book-length English language sources are vague and contradictory. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 16:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early History section questionable 

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