Talk:60th Air Defense Artillery Regiment

message: I want to point out the following information is incorrect:
"Crest: The carabao horns are symbolic of service in the Philippine Islands where the 60th Battalion, Coast Artillery Corps served."
The basic organization for antiaircraft units between world wars I and II and up to around 1942 was the regiment. Up to 1942 the correct designation for this unit was 60th Coast Artillery (Antiaircraft)
It could be abbreviated as 60th CA (AA)
The word "regiment" was not needed as it was understood by all military what it was. In 1943, all antiaircraft regiments were disbanded, and renamed as groups. At this time, old regimental battalions were renumbered and redesignated. The reasons are too complex, but see Sawicki, Antiaircraft Artillery Battalions of the US Army, Vol. 1.
So coast artillery battalions were now named as "Harbor Defense" or as a specific type of antiaircraft artillery weapon. Instead of 60th Battalion, Coast Artillery Corps it was 60th (Harbor Defense) or 60th AAA Gun Battalion after World War II. I do not have my copy of Sawicki's book with me at this moment, but I think this was the battalion that continued the lineage and history of the 60th CA (AA). Afterwards, this designation has been further changed, and is now the 60th Antiaircraft Artillery Battalion.
So please, if your phrase of "crest" in the article refers to the 60th battalion descending from and with the honors and lineage of the 60th CA (AA), please rephrase as it is not correct. In any event, ALL antiaircraft artillery battalions were under the Coast Artillery, until 1948 or so when the Antiaircraft Artillery was designated as a branch on its own merits.
Flyer333555 (talk) 23:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect or misleading information on the article 

message: I want to point out the following information is incorrect:
"Crest: The carabao horns are symbolic of service in the Philippine Islands where the 60th Battalion, Coast Artillery Corps served."
The basic organization for antiaircraft units between world wars I and II and up to around 1942 was the regiment. Up to 1942 the correct designation for this unit was 60th Coast Artillery (Antiaircraft)
It could be abbreviated as 60th CA (AA)
The word "regiment" was not needed as it was understood by all military what it was. In 1943, all antiaircraft regiments were disbanded, and renamed as groups. At this time, old regimental battalions were renumbered and redesignated. The reasons are too complex, but see Sawicki, Antiaircraft Artillery Battalions of the US Army, Vol. 1.
So coast artillery battalions were now named as "Harbor Defense" or as a specific type of antiaircraft artillery weapon. Instead of 60th Battalion, Coast Artillery Corps it was 60th (Harbor Defense) or 60th AAA Gun Battalion after World War II. I do not have my copy of Sawicki's book with me at this moment, but I think this was the battalion that continued the lineage and history of the 60th CA (AA). Afterwards, this designation has been further changed, and is now the 60th Antiaircraft Artillery Battalion.
So please, if your phrase of "crest" in the article refers to the 60th battalion descending from and with the honors and lineage of the 60th CA (AA), please rephrase as it is not correct. In any event, ALL antiaircraft artillery battalions were under the Coast Artillery, until 1948 or so when the Antiaircraft Artillery was designated as a branch on its own merits.
The title itself for the article is also incorrect and misleading. If you want to point out it is from the United States Army, it should have been titled 60th Coast Artillery (Antiaircraft) (United States)
More incorrect information was your claim this unit had 37 mm guns. This regiment had no 37 mm guns. Although the 37mm gun was included in the tables of organization and equipment for antiaircraft regiments, no such guns reached the 60th CA (AA). This regiment had only 3-inch guns and .30 and .50 cal machine guns. See http://corregidor.org/chs_batteryl/ordnance.htm
Flyer333555 (talk) 23:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect or misleading information on the article 

message: if a person was so inclined you could make a redirect page for every name change, and iether leave the title as the first designation or the last. admitedly i get lazy and just call em all coast artillery. its more generic. Brian in denver (talk) 17:50, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: header nomenclature