Talk:Closer (film)

message: "Throughout the film the only character who stays pure and honest is Alice; this is played as irony as she is the "ditsy" and "less stable" of the bunch." Excuse me? She lied about her name for years. I think that's inexcusable. -65.35.200.40 16:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a fabulous lay out, spot on, super insightful. Impressed 😊 Wikabron (talk) 06:50, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honesty 

message: Most people, including myself, tend to assume that the title is the comparative form of the adjective "close", and so is pronounced .  However, I have seen an interview in which Natalie Hershlag pronounces it as though it were an agent noun derived from the verb "to close".  That's 
In other words, it appears that it doesn't mean "nearer", but "finisher".  I presume that this refers to the slap at the end which provides Jane and Dan with closure.  Any thoughts?   — Helpful Dave 10:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not up to your opinion/interpretation-- find that conclusion in writing from a reliable source and be bold with your citation in hand. WurmWoodeT 02:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The title 

message: I disagree with part of the summary of the film.  I do not beleive that Alice sleeps with Larry. She is rather clear in her denials to him during the stripping scene.  There is no reason to beleive the event occured except for Larry's own claim to Dan.  However, we have every reason to beleive that Larry is lying because he admits in the same conversation that he is being spiteful.  The very reason that Alice is so upset by Dan's accusations in their final scene together is that the charge is false.  Why else would Alice leave Dan?  Alice is the only character who believes in the power of an individual to resist temptation.  She said to Dan, "As if you had no choice?  There’s a moment.  There’s always a moment.  I can do this.  I can give in to this or I can resist.”  Anyone agree with me?
In the end Alice leaves Dan because she says "I can't lie and I can't tell the truth so it's over".  Also Dan says that he already knew and she asks why he would push her to answer if he already knew the truth.  As further proof that the affair did in fact happen Alice describes the encounter even going so far as to admitting having orgasmed.  Greenbird 06:22, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary inaccuracy 

message: I have removed the section regarding speculation about the honesty of the various characters. It read too much like an essay or original research. If it can be cleaned up, feel free to replace it. Isopropyl 01:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice's honesty 

message: "This is modern tragedic version of Mozart's opera Così fan tutte, so film uses that music and they go to operahouse to see this." 
That was just pathetic.
:Yet you didn't change it. 68.100.203.44 04:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Worst single phrase I have read on wikipedia

message: Jude Law's character (I think he's called Dan) seems to have a fixation with the death of his mother. This is hinted at by the fact that he still cuts the crusts of his sandwiches and also his profession, he writes obituaries. Both relatively innocent but then there's the fact that he still wakes up in the middle of the night crying for his mother and spends a large portion of the film bemoaning her death. This would explain his lack of fidelity. After all he has already been married at least once (to Ruth) when he meets Alice (Jane) if you remember and later leaves Alice (Jane) for Anne. Could it be he's trying to find a mother figure? Alice (Jane) does seem to look after him like a mother would her son and Anne seems quite motherly as well. Has anybody else noticed this or am I being over-analytic(al). --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dan

message: There is a statement that says the song lyrically "draws heavily" from the film, but cites only one example. Are there any other lines, besides "He tastes like you only sweeter," that appear in the song? 71.48.76.59 (talk) 17:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Thnks fr th Mmrs? 

message: The entry would read less like a "film site" if it included a section covering the differences between the original story and the film version. Who has the time to do it? (66.162.249.170 (talk) 03:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences from the original play? 

message: There are two songs from Panic! At the Disco's album, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, with titles that quote this movie. "Lying Is the Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Her Clothes Off" and "But It's Better If You Do." I think this should be mentioned in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.99.82 (talk) 17:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panic! At the Disco 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Closer (2004 film) →  – The only other film under this name, Closer (2000 film), is a redirect. QuietHere (talk) 10:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 21 February 2023