Talk:The Executioner (book series)

message: Tried to some major updates to the main page which was just a cluttered mess. I think the problem with Bolan is that the series has such a large universe that things tend to get a bit messy. My ideas to improve on this:
* All major details about Able Team/Phoenix Force/Stony Man spinoffs should be kept to those pages and away from Executioner page. A link explaining they are spinoffs from the series (as posted already) will suffice for the main Executioner page. But any details/character descriptions should be kept in their respective Able Team/P.Force/Stony Man sections. 
* There is no need for a separate SuperBolan page to explain the series. There is none yet, but I think it is best to keep it that way. It's the same exact thing as The Executioner just double the size in pages.
* List of titles. Perhaps create just one main page to list all Executioner and SuperBolan titles? This will clear up the cluttered looking list on the main page, while still displaying the information in a much nicer/friendly manner.  
* The Mack Bolan page is essentially just a slightly expanded page explaining what is already in this section. I would recommend a deletion for the Mack Bolan page and keeping his character description within the Executioner series.
Moore2014 (talk) 06:11, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 2014 Update

message: This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page.
* It relies on references to primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject, rather than references from independent authors and third-party publications. Tagged since September 2009.
Comment: This is a rather stupid comment.  Of course the references are going to be from primary sources.  The article is about a series of books.  Where else would references and information come from?  There is very little information out on their on this topic from independent authors and third-party publications.  This is the whole point of Wikipedia.  I think the administrators somehow loose site of this fact.  Suggest this be deleted as serves no useful purpose other than stating the obvious.
* It describes a work or element of fiction in a primarily in-universe style that may require cleanup. Tagged since September 2009.
Comment: Disagree with this statement as well.  The article describes facts about the subject.  I don't think readers that do not have any notion about the series will NOT understand what is being conveyed.  In-Universe implies that only those familiar with the series will understand what is going on.
* Its plot summary may be too long or excessively detailed. Tagged since September 2009.
Comment: This states an "opinion" what is too long or excessive?  It seems to me that an encyclopedia should summarize a subject for those unfamiliar with the details.  The length of an article is dependent upon the familiarization of the subject.  The less familiar to the general public the more details are needed.
* It is in a list format that may be better presented using prose. Tagged since September 2009.
Comment: Someone will need to explain why prose would be a better presentation style than list.
FrankWilliams (talk) 18:07, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments on the Notes at the beginning of page

message: Although the information on Calvin James was good and complete, it was a bit long.  All the other team members have short synopsis on them and Calvin James should not be any different.  Also, added a "New Members" section within Phoenix Force to distinguish from the founding members.  If anyone objects let's discuss.  FrankWilliams 14:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Calvin James

message: The disambiguator "paperback" is somewhat inappropriate since this article is not about one book -- in fact it is about a literary franchise. I have therefore moved the article. I also suggest that in the near future the individual series of books be split up into articles of their own. 23skidoo 13:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, no argument there. I originally was going to move the article to Executioner (literary franchise) however that seems to be an uncommon term. And to move it to Executioner (character) is obviously wrong since Mack Bolan has an article. I also agree that, since the other spinoffs have (or will have) their own articles, a separate one for the magazine is also warranted, though it's worth noting here that one was published. I wasn't sure at first if there was a connection to Pendelton until I found the cited webpage that indicated that it had a Pendelton connection, at least at first. 23skidoo 15:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page moved

message: I created a Phoenix Force article with the proper links.  They along with Able Team can continue to grow while the executioner article can serve as a place that ties all three franchies together with minimal edits and changes to the Phoenix Force and Able Team paragraphs.FrankWilliams 14:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Article

message: The list is waaay too long. Why not just link to the relevant lists on MackBolan.com? - KingRaptor 09:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of books

message: I have added the citations missing template to the article.  Other then citations for 3 aliases he uses in one of the hundreds of books, it is currently unreferenced.  Proper, inline citations need to be added for the article to carry proper encyclopedic value.  Also, citations from secondary sources need to be added as well, as citing the books is not quite enough (see WP:FICT).  For an article on such a notable book series this desperatly needs to be fixed.  I know for a fact there are many Don Pendleton interviews transcribed on the internet, along with many other secondary and tertiary sources that can be used.  I will try to help cleanup the article as well, but this is something that is going to take more then just my involvement, as I have not read any of the books in years.  Any help by fellow editors would be greatly appreciated.  It also may be a good idea to merge in the Mack Bolan article.  I believe there is little a seperate article can add as the character is tied so specifically to the series of books and vice versa.  That article is also in desperate need of repair, and does not appear salvageable in it's current state.
Iarann 08:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations missing 

message: Anybody think adding a complete list of characters from the Mob Wars, as a separate page, is worthwhile? (I've got my copy of the Warbook in front of me...) And, any suggestions for how much detail on it to add? I'm planning a substantial expansion of the section on that basis. (When I get my collection out of storage, I'll do the pages on the individual books.)  TREKphiler hit me ♠  05:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What a character

message: As the above discussion is now one and a half years old, I reopen it—to one point only—this way. In the original post, TREKphiler suggested that the passage he had removed might justify a "Legal issues" section here. As the suit was about the Executioner series and nothing else, I feel discussion of the situation is quite germaine to this article, even more than to the one on Pendleton. However, as I implied in the above (yes, the other guy is me; I was led by the sign up mechanism to put a different name for my talk page signature from my edit history log entries) I no longer have a copy of the magazine with Kraft's interview of Pendleton. It never got mentioned here, but Pendleton told Kraft he totally lost at trial despite having all the necessary evidence. Why Pinnacle subsequently agreed to a settlement so diametrically opposed to the court judgement is beyond me, and Don merely said that it happened. To add such a section here would definitely require getting things precisely right from that interview (a copy of the original War Book would probably help as well). Can someone do that? --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I recall the interview he did with Dave (& I may have a copy of the mag buried in storage, which could take a year to find...). The Warbook doesn't say anything to it AFAI recall, but I'll have a look.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  13:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As is mentioned in the above discussion, one of Pendleton's fan letter responses in The War Book does document that he had intended to follow Panic in Philly with a novel set in Sicily; I don't recall if as much is said in the interview, but I doubt it, and it is definitely a relevant point. I am pretty sure that Don did say something directly (however minimal it might have been) about the dispute in a response to another letter there. So I stand by my statement that a copy at hand "would probably help." --Tbrittreid (talk) 20:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Addendum

message: Please note that this article's infobox is retrieving an ISBN from Wikidata currently. This is the result of a change made to  as a result of  this RfC. It would be appreciated if an editor took some time to review this ISBN to ensure it is appropriate for the infobox. If it is not, you could consider either correcting the ISBN on Wikidata (preferred) or introducing a blank ISBN parameter in the infobox to block the retrieval from Wikidata. If you do review the ISBN, please respond here so other editors don't duplicate your work. This is an automated message to address concerns that this change did not show up on watchlists. ~ RobTalk 01:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of ISBN from Wikidata 

message: I'm sort of joking, but not really. I read Don Pendelton's original 36 or 37 installments, whatever the number was, one by one as they were released. 2600:8801:BE31:D300:4CBA:538B:D24B:9F03 (talk) 19:12, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs a topic section comparing Bolan to Rambo.  

message: The infobox says "Publication date: 1969–present", but the article text says "464 novels (as of December 2020 when the series ended)". Rob Kelk 15:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are books still being written in this franchise?