Talk:1929 Hebron massacre/Archive 1

message: This article badly needs to be expanded. If we compare this to the article 'Deir Yassin massacre', the difference is striking. Please join in and expand. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion

message: Somehow my edit summary got cut off when I removed the newspaper scan.  This is pure yellow journalism and adds nothing to the article.  --Zerotalk 12:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Contemorary newspapers show historical record, and The Baltimore News is not a yellow press. OTOH, you do not seem to have any problem with a clearly unreliable source like JAZ website. ←Humus sapiens ну? 10:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  JAZ does not have any racist language like "Arab Horde Slaughtered Little Children During Mad Orgy" and if it did I would not quote it.  And why is it necessary to copy this filth into the image caption when it is clearly legible in the image?  --Zerotalk 11:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you trying to apply the 21st century political correctness to a 1929 event? Even though I think it is OK to reflect contemporary reports as historical evidence, I made a compromise and removed from the caption all but the big letters header. Now I'd like to see my opponents remove JAZ as an unreliable source. If Kaplan is so notable, there should be no problem with sources. ←Humus sapiens ну? 12:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the Baltimore News quoted an eye-witness to the massacre speaking of "Arab hordes", then that would be acceptable (if there is some information content). I don't claim the Baltimore News is an unreliable source, nor do I believe that eye-witness reports should be censored.  However the lurid headlines were just hysterical prose that some editor in Baltimore made up.   Daniel575 is not trying to quote headlines from JAZ or even editorial comment from them.  He is trying to directly quote the words of an eye-witness as reported by JAZ.  Given that the witness was a member of the community that JAZ represents, there is no reason to believe that the report of his words is unreliable.  In summary, I don't agree that there's a symmetry. However, I won't delete the image with the new caption, thanks for changing it. --Zerotalk 12:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  JAZ does not qualify as WP:RS and therefore cannot be relied upon and should be removed. Do you stand for upholding WP policies or your POV? ←Humus sapiens ну? 04:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Correct, Zero. Regarding HS, I will no longer respond to this blind bigot. I have asked him NUMEROUS TIMES to defend his position, which considers 'zionism-israel.com', a journalist from Kiryat Arba and the 'Jewish Community of Hebron' (meaning, extreme-right wing Israeli settlers) 'reliable sources', but meanwhile attacks JAZ as not being a 'reliable source'. Whenever I ask him this - read this talk page - he just ignores it. --Daniel575 | (talk) 08:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Even if I were to accept JAZ as an RS, what does the Kaplan quote actually add? Is he saying that the 'Zionists' somehow started the riots, or in some other way challenging what happened? TewfikTalk 16:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yellow journalism