Talk:Assata Shakur

message: I'd like to suggest that this Wikipedia article list Shakur's political ideologies and treat her more like the political philosophers who have pages on Wikipedia. I know some people in this community view Shakur only as a criminal. There is a list of charges against her beneath her photo. But why is there no list of her ideologies? Why should she be treated differently from someone like Emma Goldman?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.12.36.123 (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shakur as Political Theorist 

message: The descriptor should say that she is an domestic terrorist, however people keep removing it. As she was a member of a terrorist organization, that literally means she is a terrorist. Plus there are numerous instances of her committing terrorist acts. Removing the descriptor suggests political bias, as well as possibility racial bias.(Terrorists who are White, such as Timothy McVeigh, are always without fail labeled as terrorists) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:31b0:2c50:cdc:1656:ac11:d850 (talk) 09:34, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead of the article is intended to summarise the body of the text. Our content, in turn, summarises what the sources we use say. If they call her a terrorist, so will we; if they do not, we will not. We don't decide to use descriptors like that based on our own judgement, we do it based on what the sources tell us. I have removed the descriptor - please don't reinsert it unless you can point to the sources that describe her in those terms, and gain consensus on this talk page that it is the correct term to use. Please also don't accuse your fellow editors of political or racial bias on article talk pages - stick to the content, and sourcing. Thank you Girth Summit (blether) 13:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

text: "Our content, in turn, summarises what the sources we use say. If they call her a terrorist, so will we; if they do not, we will not." Well, if we use your point, according to the FBI, (a legitimate and official source) she is designated as a terroristhttps://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/joanne-deborah-chesimardKaisersauce1 (talk) 04:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a waste of time to engage with editors on any topic that's easily politicized. This site was compromised by liberal gatekeepers long ago.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fxwolf (talk • contribs) 22:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

text: *The FBI's opinion is not fact. See also MOS:TERRORIST. FDW777 (talk) 07:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Domestic terrorist

message: This article says: "The prosecution contended that Shakur shot and killed her companion, Zayd Shakur, and "executed" Trooper Foerster with his own weapon.[131]"
 
From the NYTimes article cited: “He [Foerster] was executed with his own weapon,” Mr. Barone said. Trooper James Harper was wounded in the exchange and a companion of Mrs. Chesimard was shot dead…. Police authorities contend that Mrs. Chesimard shot and killed Mr. Costan [Zayd Shakur], who had been wounded in the exchange of gunfire with Trooper Harper."
 
Police authorities is not the same as 'prosecution'. The police may have said Assata killed Zayd, but the NYTimes does not support saying the prosecution at the trial said this. 22:27, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder clarification 

message: . Should that be JoAnne? Jack Upland (talk) 03:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joanne 

message: How relevant/interesting is the April 16, 1981 event?
> Investigators believe BLA member Joanne Chesimard, convicted in the 1973 killing of New Jersey State Police trooper Werner Foerster, was inside the van that morning, sources familiar with the case said. Niels.bom (talk) 11:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 16, 1981 event