Talk:Human pathogen

message: The first sentence is misleading, I don't think prions can be considered to fall under "microbes or microorganisms".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.108.154 (talk) 02:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microbe? 

message: The potency section is contradictory and doesn't read too well either and none of that section has a citation... maybe it should be deleted?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.30.48.42 (talk) 04:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: woops. it's gone
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I'll have this page on my to do list, unless someone lists the mechanics pathogens use to cause disease before me :) -MGM 15:03, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
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The page was listed on "pages needing attention", and User:Heidimo also asked me to take a glance at it. IMHO, most material is redundant and could be merged with list of infectious diseases (just add the names of the pathogens to the diseases they cause). Just a list of all known pathogens is a silly endeavour. Any opinions? <BR>JFjkjjjyou mum puda
W | T@lk 11:46, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

text: may be useful for those just wanting the term defined. I think it is now quite good for most purposes.--inks 14:24, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Thanks for the very useful article.  A great source of information.  Much appreciated.  NaySay 18:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Escherichia Coli might be the most commonly cause for urinary tract infection, but according to sources cited in the Escherichia Coli article(The first source, second paragraph half in it), it is not regarded as a pathogen because only some strains of it will cause illness. 
62.97.167.17 19:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Escherichia coli is most commonly causing a urinary tract infection!!! 

message: i think, this article focuses a bit too much on human pathogens. especially in the table about "types of pathogens". Myrmeleon formicarius (talk) 04:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: Bit of an issue with formatting on this page, with lots of information being displayed in the 'prions' section of the table. Im not wikiliterate enough to fix this however :( Needs sorting out though. 83.100.130.69 (talk) 09:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: I think the etymology in this entry is wrong.  It's my understanding from some other research that pathogen comes from the Greek pathos meaning "suffering" or "sorrow" and the French génique meaning "to give rise to."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuboo (talk • contribs) 12:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: An earlier commentator is, I think, right in that the definition given of a pathogen is wrong.
This article has just been published in the OnlineEarly section  the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology (free access).
A proliferation of pathogens through the 20th century
J. Cunliffe
Abstract
A substantial proportion of immunologists, microbiologists and health professionals – and, indeed, many dictionaries – currently regard the term pathogen as a synonym for a pathogenic organism (most often a micro-organism). I will argue that this is a distortion of its original meaning – “a specific causative agent of disease”. An analysis of the historical use of the term pathogen together with a comparison of the meanings of pathogen, pathogenic and pathogenesis suggest that this was an insidious change. It began as a convenient abbreviation, escalated into a misappropriation and is now lodged in bio-medicine’s popular lexicon. In science, we should resist the pressures brought about by the mass action of common usage – unless there is a good, logical reason to accept this change. I propose that this common usage results in a distortion and leads to conceptual confusion, particularly when we try to understand the interaction between hosts and invasive organisms. This drift, in which pathogen becomes exclusively a living organism, is corrupting. There is a strong case for correcting and reversing it.
doi: 10.1111/j.1365-3083.2008.02130.x  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cunlij (talk • contribs) 09:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pathogen definition - misappropriation =

message: There's a whole lot of information if you press edit, but that bit doesn't show up. Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 09:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the... 

message: I saw this sentence in the lead:
"However, pathogens can infect unicellular organisms from all of the biological kingdoms."
The word "however" was clearly out of place, so I removed it.  But still the sentence was misleading/incomplete.  Pathogens infect unicellular organisms, besides WHAT?  I don't know enough about the subject to correct the sentence, so if YOU know how to phrase it better, please do so.  Probably something along the lines of "in addition to many multicellular organisms," but I'm really not sure, nor do I know how essential the sentence is in any case. zadignose (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence removed pending clarification 

message: Fleas, bedbugs, rabid animals, and so forth. I think this article could be expanded. Brian Pearson (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other ways of transmission 

message: It doesn't mention how long the ebola virus can survive outside the body 75.155.134.185 (talk) 20:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pathogen Strength 

message: A relatively new article (meaning from 2008, so not truly "new"), Pathogenic microbes might be a good candidate for a merge to this article.  It defines its territory as human pathogens (although you wouldn't guess that from the name).  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pathogenic microbes]] 

message: The first sentence: "A pathogen is a microbe or microorganism such as a virus, bacterium, prion, or fungus that causes disease in its animal or plant host."
But prion diseases are caused by proteins, which are neither a microbe nor a microorganism. Should we say instead that a pathogen is an agent that causes disease?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.2.41 (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prions 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Oppose - the rationale is a reason for expanding the article not for a WP:move. What would be left would still be a pathogen redirect to human pathogen, would it not? As it is the lede does mention animal and plant pathogens, and then when moved how would the lede look? As an illustration of this problem, I have just added a brief subsection animal pathogens from Encyclopedia of Biological Invasions - Page 510 Daniel Simberloff, Marcel Rejmánek - 2011 "Pathogens, animal by Graham J. Hickling University of Tennessee, Knoxville. This new line + ref can be deleted, but consideration needs to be taken of the purpose of a move in this case. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:10, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Opposition withdrawn if there is a generic pathogen article - plant, animal human. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This makes sense. I think the proposal should include creating a Pathogen stub that includes any non-specific pathogen content from this article. Please see this draft: User:Jojalozzo/Pathogen.  Jojalozzo 23:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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