Talk:January 2007 North American ice storm

message: Portions of southern Canada (Toronto to Kingston) have been hit with ice some heavy amounts in heavily populated areas. So I suggest renaming the article to 2007 Midwest (or central) North America ice storm. Thank You!--132.213.54.19 22:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename article

message: Cali is not in the midwest. Yes, its weather conditions are seen in the Midwest, but far worse; so the conditions in CA seems irrelevant to the topic. It should be excluded. toaster 17:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as it has nothing to do with the system that produced the ice storm. CrazyC83 23:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. It's this massive storm system that drew the cold air into the country. I think this should cover both the ice storm and the cold snap that followed it. bob rulz 04:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the latter, but still, the current conditions in California have nothing to do with the Midwest, but since the name change, it could now be included.toaster 17:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think that California was hit that hard. However, from what I've heard, the California orange crops were severely damaged. --Ixfd64 16:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  California? 

message: Should we mention about a series of waves of freezing rain for the event, because there are still ice events across the southeast now and there will be more this weekend in Texas. Maybe we could the current and upcoming wave in one single article covering from the 12th to probably the 21st or 22nd and called the North American ice storm of 2007 as a series of ice storm events that affected the eastern half of the continent. --132.213.54.36 23:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That can be up for discussion, but it is definitely still ongoing - the stationary front that played a role is still there. (The actual low is in Europe now) CrazyC83 23:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've including fatalities from the current storm underway. I think that it will be the last storm to be included in this article. The one that seems predicted for the 25th will be totally unrelated.--JForget 02:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I was surprised that the two waves that preceded this one weren't mentioned.  Colorado, Kansas, and Nebraska were hit by two storms before this one hit. They happened basically on Christmas and New Years.  For Nebraska, both involved Ice Storms, the second one being by far the worst in the state's history.  The ice storm in Nebraska didn't affect as wide an area as the one a week later that this article is mostly about, but it was WORSE than that one in terms of local impact.  The one that was more widespread involved ice coatings of no more than about three quarters of an inch, from what I've read.  Parts of Nebraska got a three to four inch coating from the New Year's Ice Storm.  If Nebraska were as heavilly populated as eastern North America, the impact might have been comparable to the 1998 Ice Storm that hit Canada and the Northeast US. Toroca 04:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: other waves of storms

message: Something is wrong. I see HTML, people. --80.63.213.182 07:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References section 

message: I live in Missouri ad now it's snowing. It's at least 4-5 inches! I'm wondering if we should put a big snow storm came over the middleeast and dumped a lot of snow over Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska, and parts of Oklahoma? Tcatron565 15:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should We Add =

message: I started this article and can't believe that it made the main page! --Ixfd64 16:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The 85 deaths probably did it. It is the deadliest disaster of any kind in the US since Hurricane Rita (120), and the deadliest in North America since Hurricane Stan (1,600+), both in the fall of 2005. CrazyC83 16:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: uhm... its called hurricane Katrina buddy, nice one. toaster 23:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those were after Katrina... CrazyC83 23:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  whoa, awesome! 

message: Did the storm also have any impacts there? As it is written, it seems like it stopped at the Rio Grande Valley... CrazyC83 16:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Mexico? 

message: I haven't taken the time to research this exactly, so this may be considered a different storm; however, Washington state was also hit by a series of storms in late December 06, early January 07. It began with a terrible wind storm that knocked out power to nearly 700,000 people. Three people died the first night - one woman drowned from flooding in her basement. I am certain the death toll was more than that, with car accidents and further flooding following. Parts of Washington state (most of Western Washington) were declared Disaster Areas and received Federal Aid from FEMA. The storm also brought with it a week of sustained heavy rain. As a result, flooding was experienced everywhere. Not a week passed before Seattle saw nearly 6 inches of snow starting at about 3PM and lasting into the evening. The snow storm blanketed the entire metropolitan area reaching from Bellingham in the north, south to Olympia. 3 days later, as most of the snow had turned into an inch of compact ice in non-plowed areas, we got 3 more inches of snow, and a brisk freeze that night. Temperatures remained below freezing for 2 days, and we got a small snow afterwards. Schools and several businesses (including my place of work) were closed for several days, some as many as 3 consecutive days and a minimum of 1 day a week from the beginning until last week. Roads have been clear for a week now, and the snow is all melted. Flooding still persists in some areas, and the FEMA disaster aid unit near my home has been removed.
I have great trouble believing that this storm that hit Western Washington, Oregon and Northern California and the storm discussed in this article are totally unrelated events. 
If so, I would suggest that the article's scope be widened to include the effects on other states (and provinces, I'm sure British Columbia had similar weather). Nuriko 12:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally unrelated climatic events. Sad mouse 16:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Washington? :\ 

message: There is nothing about Saskatchewan, and the -50 (celcius) temperatures we were expierencing, or the 6 inches of snow.. clearly the worst weather in North America, but only 4 were killed. They tried to reach help when their had mechanical failures. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.142.199.186 (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  You all think youve got it so bad... 

message: I saw this today  and it reminded me to plug WP:RECENT on this page... this article should include a section on how winter storms are traditionally blown out of proportion by the media... see also: North American blizzard of 1996 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MPS (talk • contribs) 20:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recentism

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