Talk:Willamette University College of Medicine

message: for the authoratative history of willamette--- the chronicles of willamette by Dr. Robert Gatke is the source.
Dean Gregg wrote a post WWI update.   Gatke was a very ancient professor emeritus of political science at WU when I was there in the mid 1960's.     His book was produced in 1942 to celebrate the centennial of WU.      Professor Gregg wrote a second volume.
Dr. Gatke in his book consistently referred to the "College of Medicine"   which in name was consistent with the "College of Pharmacy" and the College of Law.-----See page 425
on page 426 Professor Gatke writes:   "The College of Medicine, the oldest of the professional schools, continued in Portland until 1895 when it suddenly found itself without hospital clinical privileges."    he then goes on to explain why.....   
He explains that it had something to do with a new rival medical college in Portland affilliated with the University of Oregon.
However being in some ways an 'in house' history, the actual sale of the College of Medicine is described as follows:
"The school had nobly served the pioneer Northwest and tained many of its leading physicians; the work must now be bolstered either by heavy endowments or be passed to a school enjoying state support.   With no special endowment in site the latter course was determined upon.  At the annual meteing of the Board in 1913 the action of a special committee was confirmed whereby the Willamette College of Medicine was absorbed by the University of Oregon andn provisions made for the recognition of the Willamette medical students and alumni."   This is footnoted to volume VII page 205 of the trustee minutes.
Guess I don't see calling it the 'school of medicine' when the offical college historian consistently referred to it as the "College of Medicine"  or the "Medical College.Rvannatta 05:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Before writting the article that was a key decision I grappled with. Some refer to it as School, others college, some even the medical department. If you look at the reference coming from the school, they say School of Medicine, so that is what I ultimaetly went with. They may have gone through a variety of titles. According to Hines, which is only a couple years removed from the founding, it is the Medical Department. So maybe they went with that, then School, then College, with Gatke then simply choosing his favorite or his preference and making uniform references throughout. Honestly, reading the two histories (Gatke and the 2nd) I find them interesting, but not great from a historical standpoint, in that as a historian I find them of poor quality as lacking a more neutral examination of the subject. Of course I found the same problem with Ambrose and Undaunted Courage, but it was still a good read. I'll try to dig around at the library and see if I can find something from the time period (like a yearbook, catalog, etc.) to see what it was at least last called. Aboutmovies 06:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Pretty much my thoughts. The only issue I have with going with Gatke at this point is that, if you will, we have a split of authority with the WU website saying school. So, I'm going to play SCOTUS and look at the legislative history if you will and try to see what it was at the time, though it might not be till next week as I may have to make an appointment with an archivist. And just an FYI, Willamette University College of Medicine does redirect here in case someone types that in. Aboutmovies 02:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The yearbooks for 1903, 1910, and 1913 all used College so I have moved the article to that name and changed the references in the article to match. It had about three times as many professors as the law school, so odd that they let the school go. Aboutmovies 09:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  authorative history 

message: I find this expanded article to be very fullfilling on the history of OHSU.  I never knew that they originated from here.  After rereading the assessment for Oregon again, and again.  I would have to support a scale of C for this article.  C. Williams (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reassessment

message: *Report of the Commissioner of Education Made to the Secretary of the ...
*of the Library of the Surgeon General's Office, United States Army ... Aboutmovies (talk) 09:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for expansion/citations