Talk:Michael DeLorenzo

message: (talk) i dont agree he was born in 1965 he was born in 1959 27 October 2017 (UTC) 07:04
:I share your concern, but we need reliable sources. References to his age early in his career may be all we need. If he doesn't disclose his age, then we might remove the year completely per WP:DOB. --Ronz (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't appear that birth records are available in New York for living persons. --Ronz (talk) 15:59, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://www.fameforever.com/series/interview55.php Here's what's supposedly a copy of an article from 1985 Tiger Beat saying he was 23 at the time, that he was 7 when he made his film debut as an extra in Popi, and played the character Chino in West Side Story in 1980. This is not a reliable source, but might help us determine where to look. --Ronz (talk) 16:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://www.grabbagmedia.com/theemployer/theemployer_presskit.pdf Primary source for the 2013 movie The Employer. Says he was 7 at Bellet Hispanico, 10 when at the Royal Canadian Ballet, 14 with the American Ballet Theater. --Ronz (talk) 16:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-04-06/features/9704060055_1_star-wars-ballet-cartoon-network Primary source (interview). Had to give up ballet at age 15. I don't see a problem using this if it isn't inconsistent with other high-quality sources. --Ronz (talk) 16:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not consistent with other high-quality sources, nor other interviews. --Ronz (talk) 02:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

text: http://www.southjersey.com/articles/?articleID=1081 Doesn't appear reliable. Has info about a salary dispute at New York Undercover, as well as details on early life. Might be helpful in finding better sources. --Ronz (talk) 16:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: https://books.google.com/books?id=6OpZBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA239&lpg=PA239&dq=west+side+story+1980+cast+delorenzo&source=bl&ots=XOz-hxg1xB&sig=V8y4v2Uo13SQKjMdhnF3UQlmfpU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1tOK2477YAhVh6YMKHdKcBLoQ6AEIYzAO#v=onepage&q=west%20side%20story%201980%20cast%20delorenzo&f=false Latino Image Makers in Hollywood: Performers, Filmmakers and Films Since the 1960s. Appears unreliable. Has information similar to that of the southjersey.com link above. --Ronz (talk) 17:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: https://issuu.com/centertheatregroup/docs/5_stand_up_tragedy Primary source. Program from the 89 performance of Stand-Up Tragedy. --Ronz (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://articles.latimes.com/1989-05-31/entertainment/ca-950_1_stand-up-tragedy-new-york-teacher-mark-taper-forum "Bronx-born and raised, 26-year-old Michael DeLorenzo (who plays the central role of the troubled student Lee) knows firsthand the realities of the play's setting." I think that's enough to pull the year from the article. --Ronz (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/03/archives/premieres-in-dance-for-school-concert.html "The ballet side of the program suggested one should keep an eye on Alba Cruz and two freshmen, Manuel Gomez and Michael DeLorenzo." This looks like where the '59 may be coming from, though it would be WP:OR to use.  --Ronz (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: http://www.nytimes.com/1976/06/29/archives/dance-us-terpsichore-new-works.html Verifies that he was with the group in '76. --Ronz (talk) 20:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.nytimes.com/1975/08/13/archives/the-dance-us-terpsichore-troupe-professionals-students-blend-in.html A review of US Terpsichore's program the previous year. --Ronz (talk) 17:43, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

text: Richard Thomas (dancer) has info on the dance company. --Ronz (talk) 17:48, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

text: https://sites.google.com/site/famemagazinecovers/michael-delorenzo-spills-the-beans-on-the-cast-of-fame-interview-1983 I've been trying to find a usable version of this interview, apparently from "The Official Fame Magazine". If we can find a copy, I think we could use it for early life details. --Ronz (talk) 21:10, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

text: That's original research and ignores the references. --Ronz (talk) 01:14, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. As a primary source, it doesn't help us much. It's consistent with all the early references about his age and year of birth. Being born in Manhattan is surprising. I can't find anything else that verifies it. However, I did find references saying he lived on the west side of the Bronx, so it seems a likely possibility. I've removed the birth location since he may have been born in the next borough. --Ronz (talk) 17:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Year of birth