Talk:Birmingham City F.C.

message: Is the highest transfer fee paid not Christian Benitez as he moved for a INITIAL £6m?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 08:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: will be, if he ever actually gets a visa to enter the country, gets a work permit, takes a medical, and signs a contract. Which he hasn't yet, but I'm sure when he does, the club will tell us. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: and as we speak, he has a visa. Getting there... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highest Transfer fee paid 

message: damien johnson is the captain however he is unavailable for two months meaning carsley is the stand in. therefore carsley is the club captain. jeez!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 20:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As Alex McLeish says  on the club site here,  "Damien Johnson is our club captain but because of his injury Carso will wear the armband when the new campaign gets underway".  Carsley is the captain on the field, but Johnson remains the club captain, which is a different thing.  If you look at the article Captain (football)#Club captain, it explains the difference between club and team captains. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  captain 

message: Since the 'Football Drive' added their information the article has looked absoloutely terrible since. There is a lot of tedious uninteresting information that has been included namley in the section titled 'Blues' in Europe'. Also It has no kind of persepctive from a Birmingham City fans point of view which I think is rather dissapointing.
*The blues in Europe bit has been there for ages. The page hardly changed since before the football drive. 
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This page keeps on being vandalised by Birmingham city fans, trying to make the team sound more impressive. Can someone lock it please? I have just deleted "BCFC BEST IN THE WORLD" from the opening paragraph 
A lot of this page is waffle. It goes on and on about their performance in the top division, and adds tiny details, such as the apparent Atari ST cup. Could someone who specialises in Football pages please sort this page out. Thom32
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On the right it lists their position this season, wheras on other teams pages it says their position at the end of last season. I'm going to change it
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Is there any agreement on what constitutes a football 'honour'? I always thought that you had to win for it to be an honour, but this entry lists being a finalist as an honour.
--Smallbone10 23:57, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  A joke! 

message: Having just seen Blues vs. Norwich (2006), I have witnessed the worst Blues performance of my life. I went to the 0-7 vs. Liverpool, but this was worst, at least then one team played well! I thought we got rid of the pre-madonna's in the team, but after this performance, I am wondering where the passion has gone! As a typcal Blues fan, I don't ask for much, just players putting in a bit of effort. I need consolation, as I am beginning to lose what Blues are supposed to be doing in this division. Please give me the other side of the coin, because I seem to have lost it. Millm0w 07:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP ME 

message: This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it.  Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed.  I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy.  In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube links 

message: Sorry to remove these after a user tabled them, which must have taken some time. But they're fairly trivial and have no real place in the article. HornetMike 19:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Season-by-season positions

message: I've just reinstated these. Crest was vandalised but not restored when the vandalism was removed. Blues in Europe looks like it went by accident. Struway 14:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Crest and Blues in Europe sections

message: in Honours section. Someone changed it to Forssell, with 40 caps - him it can't be, because he won a good half of them before joining Blues. Presumably it's supposed to show the number of caps won by the player while he's at the club - I was going to just change it back to what it said before, i.e Malcolm Page with 28, but it isn't any more.
For instance, this page shows Damien Johnson had 14 caps when he came to Blues, and this one says he has 46 now, so that's 32 won while at Blues. But there may be others - does anyone know how many Lazaridis won while at Blues? or any other suggestions (ideally with sources)? Struway (talk) 23:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this site, which has team lists for all recent Australia internationals, and distinguishes between 'A' and 'B' games, Lazaridis won 33 caps while at Blues, so I'm going to add that. Any verifiable advance on 33 gratefully received! Struway (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Most capped player?

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message: Well spotted the person who noticed the mistake! Whoever wrote this section in the first place (and the St Andrews (stadium) article) took their info pretty well straight from the 2000 official Encyclopedia of Birmingham City, which does say 43,204. Presumably(?) a typo for 53,204, as the official attendance for the Cup QF in 1972 was 52,470. I'll change the St Andrews article as well, which says the same. Struway2 | Talk 10:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, if you click on the note by that sentence (note number 3, at the moment) it explains that. Obviously Aston Villa are an older club, but the point is that they were based in the borough of Aston Manor, which wasn't part of the City of Birmingham at the time. Hope that helps, cheers, Struway2 | Talk 13:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Andrews capacity 

message: For the benefit of , I've reviewed the article to pick up some points that will inevitably crop up at a peer review which precedes a FAC.  Here they are:
*History section titles need work, see other club FA's. 
:removed
*"Inspired by..." - POV.
:reworded (Womack captaincy one), though I've left in (and referenced) the "inspirational Christophe Dugarry"
*Not sure semifinal is a single word, thought it ought to be hyphenated (as it is in the reference).
:Chambers would disagree with you
*"...FA Cup semifinal and win promotion..." - no real need to italicise.
:reworded
*Citations look best in numerical order (so [42][1] would be preferable as [1][42]).
:done all I've spotted
*Shower curtain kit sounds interesting, any chance of creating it instead of, say, the current third choice kit?
:don't know how to. I'd photograph one but you don't see many about (can't imagine why).
*Penultimate para of Colours etc has no citation.
:done
*Stadium section ought to be Stadiums, starts awkwardly with bullet list of grounds, and has only a single subsection, that of St Andrews.  Needs expansion.
:rewritten
*Also, the section on St Andrews needs work.  No citations to speak of and sentences like "St Andrews was built on an old gypsy camp. The gypsies are reputed to have put a curse on the ground when they were evicted. Fans still blame this when the club has a string of bad results." really need citation, quotation, reliable sources etc.
:rewritten
*I know the Notable Managers section is an overview but it could do with some citation.
:will have soon has now
*I would be tempted to incorporate some discussion over the new stadium in the Stadium(s) section rather than as a See also bullet...
:done
*Use en-dash for page ranges in references.
:done all I've spotted
Hope that helps. The Rambling Man 17:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some suggestions which will no doubt turn up at PR 

message: Just seen that the Villa's page is a featured article. Any chance someone could help get the Blues page featured article status. I have never gone through the process so it would be better for someone else to do this for me. --Gking92 (talk) 21:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Articles 

message: I see Carsley is listed as Blues' captain. As Carsley is now essentially a squad player, shouldn't Stephen Carr be listed as our captain? Carr is definitely the 'team' captain and Carsley, arguably, is the 'club' captain but instead of making things complicated why don't we list Carr as the captain? It's unlikely he'll be replaced even if Carsley becomes a regular starter. King of Mercia (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree it's a bit misleading now that Carsley plays so rarely. But last time they both started, away at Arsenal, bcfc.com listed Carsley as captain and referred to "captain Lee Carsley" in the prose, so if that's what they say, we can't really decide something different. Damien Johnson's still club captain, and presumably will remain so until he leaves the club. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club, squad or team captain? 

message: The owner is Birmingham International Holdings, as Carson Yeung did not had a controlling interests (>50%) to the holding company. Mr. Liu Xingcheng own 14% share, Ms. Zhou Xin owned 9.88% and Carson Yeung only owned 18.54%. As we don't know Zhou and Liu's relation, Yeung nominally the largest shareholder but there is rumour that there is a de facto major share holder behind. Matthew_hk tc 05:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, and thanks for updating. The ownership details had never been changed since the club was bought by Grandtop when it was under Yeung's control. Another time, though, when you make changes, please remember to add a reference for them. As to the rumoured "major shareholder", in the current circumstances I wish that she or he would a) pass the fit and proper person test and b) show us the money..... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Owner

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replies: text: I know Birmingham is 10 years behind the rest of the world but please use the standard squad table template that practically every other football team article uses. 194.217.118.50 (talk) 11:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squad table format 

message: Jeff Lynne, the musical artist and founder of ELO, is a Blues supporter.  He wrote the song 'Birmingham Blues' on the album 'Out of the Blue.' Jrgilb (talk) 06:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeff Lynne is a supporter, wrote song 'Birmingham Blues' 

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message: Add "Sport Scientist Intern: Louis Titchener" to the club staff section BirminghamCityFan123 (talk) 16:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done. First because you didn't supply a source for your addition; second because such sections are supposed to include senior or notable staff, not all staff. This article currently draws the line at those mentioned on the first-team page HERE, which still seems quite a lot... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2020 

message: Change ‘St Andrews’ to ‘St Andrews @ Knighthead Park’ 92.236.226.224 (talk) 22:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done, if you meant change the infobox: conventionally, we don't use sponsored stadium names unless the stadium has never had an unsponsored name. But I have added it to a suitable place in the lead section. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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