Talk:Miguel Ángel Asturias

message: The following references were sitting on the page, doing nothing in particular.  I.e. none of them had been cited.  So I'm copying them over here.  They should be consulted and used, or deleted.  NB the only reference that was being used was in fact an encyclopedia article, which is not a great source.  As Researching with Wikipedia puts it: "an encyclopedia is intended to be a starting point for serious research, not an endpoint."
Anyhow, these are the references that need to be used or deleted:
*  Cardoza y Aragón "Miguel Angel Asturias, Casi Novela" (Miguel Angel Asturias, Almost a Novel).  (1991) Ediciones Era. 
* Nobel Lectures, Literature 1901-1967, Editor Horst Frenz, Elsevier Publishing Company, Amsterdam, (1969)
* "Miguel Angel Asturias." Encyclopedia of World Biography. 2005-2006 Thomson Gale, Thomson Corporation
* "Lost in the Maize." Metroactive Books. August 14, 1997 Metro Publishing Inc. 
* "Miguel Angel Asturias." UXL Encyclopedia of World Biography. CNET Networks, Inc. (2007).
* Auer-Ramanisa, Beby. "Miguel Angel Asturias et la Révolution Guatémaltèque : étude socio-politique de trois romans." Paris: Anthropos, 1981.
* Sierra Franco, Aurora. "Miguel Angel Asturias en la Literatura." Guatemala: Editorial Istmo, 1969.
* Priento, Rene. "Miguel Angel Asturias’s Archeology of Return." Cambridge, England: Cambridge University Press,1993.
* Verdugo, Iber. " El Carácter de la Literatura Hispanoamericana y la Novelística de Miguel Angel Asturias." Guatemala: Guatemala Editorial Universitaria, 1968.
* Leon Hill, Eladia. "Miguel Angel Asturias; lo Ancestral en su Obra Literaria." New York: Eliseo Torres, 1972.
--jbmurray (talk|contribs) 03:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Hi Asturias 365 gang, These books all have available status at Koerner. 
1) Miguel Angel Asturias.  Atilio Jorge Castelpoggi Buenos Aires Editorial "La Mandrágora" 1961
2) Miguel Angel Asturias.  Richard J. Callan 1932-, New York : Twayne Publishers 1970]
3)Miguel Angel Asturias Carlos Meneses, Madrid : Ediciones Júcar 
4) Conversaciones con Miguel Angel Asturias Luis López Alvarez Miguel Angel Asturias. Madrid : Emesa 1974
5)Miguel Angel Asturias en la literatura.  Sierra Franco, Aurora. Guatemala Editorial Istmo 1969
6) Miguel Angel Asturias; semblanza para el estudio de su vida y obra, con una selección de poemas y prosas.  Marta Pilón de Pacheco Miguel Angel Asturias. Guatemala Cultural Centroamericana, Librería Proa 1968
7) Miguel Angel Asturias : biografía breve  G. Asturias Montenegro. Guatemala : Editora Cultura c1999
8) Cómo era Miguel Angel Asturias? Mario Alberto Carrera 1945-. Guatemala : Editorial Cultura c1999
9) Miguel Angel Asturias; lo ancestral en su obra literaria. Eladia Leon Hill. New York Eliseo Torres 1972
10) La narrativa de Miguel Angel Asturias. Giuseppe Bellini 1923-. Buenos Aires Losada 1969
11) Homenaje a Miguel Angel Asturias; variaciones interpretativas en torno a su obra. Editor: Helmy F. Giacoman. Helmy Fuad Giacoman. Long Island City, N.Y. Las Américas 1972?
12) Genio y figura de Miguel Ángel Asturias  Jimena Sáenz. Buenos Aires : Editorial Universitaria de Buenos Aires c1974
13) Miguel Angel Asturias; anticipo bibliográfico. Pedro F. de. Andrea. México : D.F., Impr. Editorial Libros de Mexico 1969
14) El carácter de la literatura hispanoamericana y la novelística de Miguel Angel Asturias. Iber Verdugo. Guatemala Editorial Universitaria 1968
15) Tres de cuatro soles : edición crítica. Miguel Angel Asturias, Dorita Nouhaud. México, D.F. : Fondo de Cultura Económica c1977
--Daquigg (talk) 02:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  15 books about or by Asturias 

message: hey guys - this is the most I could find online (article-wise) having to do with Mister Miguel
1) Barbas-Rhoden, Laura. "Cien Años de Magia: ensayos críticos sobre la obra de Miguel Ángel Asturias." Revista de Estudios Hispanicos 41.3 (2007): 484-85. Academic Search Complete. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=27631637&site=ehost-live>. 
2) "DRAMATIC SPACE AND THE PLURALISTIC WORLDS OF MIGUEL ÁNGEL ASTURIAS." Hispanofila 140 (2004): 101-14. EBSCOhost. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=19443979&site=ehost-live>. 
3) Fama, Antonio. "La problemática de la identidad en 'El Señor Presidente' de Miguel Angel Asturias." Rev. of Modern Language Review. Apr. 1991: 504-05. Academic Search Complete. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=17584001&site=ehost-live>. 
4) Fernandez Font, Jorge. "Apuntes para una lectura social de dos novelas de Miguel Angel Asturias." Revista Mexicana de Sociología 41.3 (1979): 863-78. JSTOR. Web. 
5) Lund, Joshua, and Joel Wainwright. "MIGUEL ANGEL ASTURIAS AND THE APORIA OF POSTCOLONIAL GEOGRAPHY." Interventions: The International Journal of Postcolonial Studies 10.2 (2008): 141-57. Academic Search Complete. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=32964619&site=ehost-live>. 
6) Mead, Jr., Robert G. "Miguel Angel Asturias and the Nobel Prize." Hispania 51.2 (1968): 326-31. JSTOR. Web. 
7) Megged, Nahum. "Artificio y naturaleza en las obras de Miguel Angel Asturias." Hispania 59.2 (1976): 319-28. JSTOR. Web. 
8) Miller, Michael. "Sociología Guatemalteca: El problema social del indio." Hispanic American Historical Review 89.2 (2009): 330-31. MasterFILE Premier. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f5h&AN=39555641&site=ehost-live>. 
9) Prieto, René. "The New American Idiom of Miguel Angel Asturias." Hispanic Review 56.2 (1988): 191-208. JSTOR. Web. 
10) Rodríguez Cascante, Francisco. "EL INDIGENISMO COMO ATROFIA: LA CRÍTICA DE LUIS CARDOZA Y ARAGÓN A MIGUEL ÁNGEL ASTURIAS." Káñina 30.2 (2006): 33-40. EBSCOhost. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=33518275&site=ehost-live>. 
11) Wilson, Jason. "Assuming the Light: The Parisian Literary Apprenticeship of Miguel Angel Asturias." Hispanic Research Journal 4.2 (2003): 187. EBSCOhost. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=9956984&site=ehost-live>. 
I know some of them are old[er] but I figure - why not? They could have some good reference material and such!
--Phxalana (talk) 06:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long list bib 

message: Hi guys,
It looks like you have a lot of sources going already. I was thinking that maybe we could expand a little "Major Works" by browsing through Mulata de tal, El Señor presidente, Hombres de maiz, and of course Leyendas de Guatemala. However this might be more reading than we can handle or maybe its not entirely necessary(?). Regardless:
Asturias, Miguel Angel. El Señor presidente. Madrid : Universidad de Salamanca Grupo Santillana de Ediciones, 1995. (not the 1st ed.)
Asturias, Miguel Angel. Hombres de maiz. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1949.
Asturias, Miguel Angel. Leyendas de Guatemala. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1957. 
Asturias, Miguel Angel. Mulata de tal. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1963. 
It looks like we have a lot to work through! I'll add anything else I find tonight.
--Trowan (talk) 22:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources cont'd 

message: Asturias, Miguel Angel. Hombres de Mais. Madrid: Alianza Editorial, , 2000. 
Asturias, Miguel Angel. El Senor Presidente. Madrid: Alianza Editorial, 1995. 
Carrera, Mario Alberto. Como era Miguel Angel Asturias?. Guatemala: Editorial Cultura, 1999. 
Harss, Luis. Into the Mainstream; Conversations with Latin American Writers. New York: Harper & Row, 1967.
Pilon de Pachero, Marta. Miguel Angel Asturias; semblanzas para el estudio de su vida y obra, con una seleccion de poemas y prosas. Guatemala: Guatemala Cultural Centroamericana, Librería Proa, 1968
Prieto, Rene. Miguel Angel Asturias’s archaeology of return. Cambridge, England: Cambridge University Press,1993.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raluca Cretu (talk • contribs) 04:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long Bibliography list 

message: Hola Equipo,
The bio section of the article looks like it's in good shape. I suggest we add some references where needed and, like Tessa was saying, focus on the section dealing with his works. 
Here's my suggested short list that reflects these priorities. Of course, edit away...
books
bio
1) Carrera, Mario Alberto. Como era Miguel Angel Asturias? Guatemala: Editorial Cultura, 1999.
2) Callan, Richard J. Miguel Angel Asturias. New York: Twayne Publishers, 1970].
Literary criticism
3) Sierra Franco, Aurora. Miguel Angel Asturias en la literatura. Guatemala: Editorial Istmo, 1969.
4) Bellini, Giuseppe. La narrativa de Miguel Angel Asturias. Buenos Aires: Losada, 1969.
5) Pilon de Pachero, Marta. Miguel Angel Asturias; semblanzas para el estudio de su vida y obra, con una seleccion de poemas y prosas. Guatemala: Librería Proa, 1968.
6) Gutiérrez, Lourdes Rayano. Las novelas de Miguel Angel Asturias: desde la teoría de la recepción. Salamanca: Universidad de Valladolid, 1993.     
7) Castelpoggi, Antilio Jorge. Miguel Angel Asturias. Buenos Aires: Editorial La Mandrágora, 1961. 
works 
8) Asturias, Miguel Angel. El Señor presidente. Madrid : Universidad de Salamanca Grupo Santillana de Ediciones, 1995. (not the 1st ed.)
9) Asturias, Miguel Angel. Hombres de maiz. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1949.
10) Asturias, Miguel Angel. Leyendas de Guatemala. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1957.
11) Asturias, Miguel Angel. Mulata de tal. Buenos Aires : Editorial Losada, 1963.
Articles
1) Barbas-Rhoden, Laura. "Cien Años de Magia: ensayos críticos sobre la obra de Miguel Ángel Asturias." Revista de Estudios Hispanicos 41.3 (2007): 484-85. Academic Search Complete. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=27631637&site=ehost-live>.
2) Megged, Nahum. "Artificio y naturaleza en las obras de Miguel Angel Asturias." Hispania 59.2 (1976): 319-28. JSTOR. Web.
3) Prieto, René. "The New American Idiom of Miguel Angel Asturias." Hispanic Review 56.2 (1988): 191-208. JSTOR. Web.
4) Fernandez Font, Jorge. "Apuntes para una lectura social de dos novelas de Miguel Angel Asturias." Revista Mexicana de Sociología 41.3 (1979): 863-78. JSTOR. Web.
5) Fama, Antonio. "La problemática de la identidad en 'El Señor Presidente' de Miguel Angel Asturias." Rev. of Modern Language Review. Apr. 1991: 504-05. Academic Search Complete. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=17584001&site=ehost-live>.
6)Rodríguez Cascante, Francisco. "EL INDIGENISMO COMO ATROFIA: LA CRÍTICA DE LUIS CARDOZA Y ARAGÓN A MIGUEL ÁNGEL ASTURIAS." Káñina 30.2 (2006): 33-40. EBSCOhost. Web. <http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=33518275&site=ehost-live>.
Daquigg (talk) 07:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short List 

message: Hey group!
I just looked at my calendar - annotated bib is due soon! So, looking at the list, I'll see what I can dig up on the first 3 articles and book #2 (under bio), is that okay with everyone?
--Phxalana (talk) 08:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  annotated bib 

message: hello everyone,
i'm at koerner's and am going to start making my way through some of the books we have in our bibliography. alanna, i'm not sure what book you meant by the 2nd book. lets make sure we write down the names of the books we have begun reading so we don't overlap. i'll write down the ones i'm going to use in a couple hours. go team go!
--Trowan (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  annotated biblio 

message: hey guys
so i'm at ikb right now - i've downloaded the second two articles and i'll read/annotate them hopefully tonight. i'll check out my Callan book tomorrow and read/annotate it then. for the first article - i couldn't figure out how to get back to the page i originally found it on... apparently EBSCOhost is very picky that way! anyway - i'll just stick to my 2 articles and the one book. if i have any extra time this weekend i'll try to knock out another book. i'll keep you guys posted!
happy readings!
--Phxalana (talk) 03:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  mmm libraries 

message: After Wednesday's class, this is more or less how we plan to go about editing this article as a group:
1. Read through the article* if you haven't already! Where is it lacking? Read through the discussion page criticism on the article as well to get an idea of how the article has evolved and where we can take it. 
2. Read through the source(s) (the book and/or articles you wrote an annotated bibliography for) that you plan to use. Are they reliable sources*? Decide what sections of the article your sources are best applicable to.
3. Once you have decided what sections you are going to work on, begin checking the citations. Are they reliable sources? If not, maybe we can re-source them or delete them altogether.  
4. Begin to edit using the information you have from your source. This will happen bit by bit. It is a process which can get a bit confusing. If lost, there are many wikipedia help pages to guide you through.
5. How is the grammar? Check for flow of ideas, use of verbs, fragment sentences, etc. Again, you can refer to the wiki "good article" page to see what they think is considered good academic writing.
Also, remember to keep in contact with the group! If you plan on creating a new section, let us know and we'll keep an eye out for relative information in our sources. Two of us might be working on the same section which could get confusing. Once you know what section(s) you plan to edit, let the group know as well. Throughout the process we can check how each other are doing and help edit.
*Check wikipedia's definition of a "good article" and a "reliable source"
Good luck,
--Trowan (talk) 19:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I know it can be confusing, here are quicklinks to info about Good Articles and Reliable Sources. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help! Scartol • Tok 18:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Plan 

message: Hola equipo,
I have sketches of material to start two new sections. One entitled "Magical realism" (Asturias' role etc.) and one on the role of myth in his writing. The later could perhaps be incorporated in the Mayan influences section if it seems like a better fit, but I've found 3 good articles on the subject and I have a feeling a new section could emerge. 
Any ideas for new sections?
--Daquigg (talk) 04:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been away from this page (and all of Wikipedia) for a while, but I've finally got some time and I might be of some use. It sounds like the info. you plan to add, Daquigg, could go into the "Style" section; I actually imagine the main section being "Style", with general info. (including that which is currently there) listed before two sub-sections: "Magical realism" and "Mayan influence" (making it from an independent section to a sub-section of "Style"). Something like we did at Honoré de Balzac. Scartol • Tok 18:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  new sections 

message: Hey group,
Just so you know, ONLY wikilink or add an internal link something once! ie the first time it appears in a paragraph!!!!!! do not overuse wiki links! 
--Trowan (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the general policy is to wikilink the word/phrase the first time it appears in the body of the article, and not again afterward.. Here's the guideline for your convenience: WP:OVERLINK. Cheers! Scartol • Tok 20:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki-links or Internal links  

message: Is this politically motivated, or poorly worded?
The article currently has the US backing Guatemala against rebels. But the rebels win, overthrowing Árbenz.
Except that those rebels are US-backed reactionary rebels.
Varlaam (talk) 16:35, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange description of the fall of Árbenz 

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