Talk:Stanley (vehicle)

message: Five cars finished the course of  the 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge: Stanley & Sandstorm & H1ghlander & TerraMax & Kat-5. It is interesting to compare them to the earlier VaMP robot car of Mercedes-Benz and Ernst Dickmanns. My sources are mostly Wikipedia and the rest of the web. In 2005, the DARPA cars drove 212 km without human intervention.  In 1995, the VaMP drove up to 158 km without human intervention. The DARPA cars drove on a dirt road flattened by a steamroller. The VaMP drove on the Autobahn. In both cases the road boundaries were easily identifiable by computer vision. Like many commercial cars, the DARPA cars used GPS navigation, essentially driving from one waypoint to the next (almost 3000 waypoints for the entire course, several waypoints per curve). Like humans, the VaMP drove by vision only.  The DARPA cars reached speeds up to 40 km/h. The VaMP reached speeds up to 180 km/h. So the VaMP was more than four times faster although its computer processors apparently were 1000 times slower. The DARPA cars did not encounter any traffic but a few stationary obstacles. The VaMP drove in traffic around moving obstacles, passing other cars.  Interestingly, the 2007 Urban Grand Challenge  is trying to repeat something the VaMP was already able to do 12 years ago. Willingandable 17:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[VaMP]] (1995) vs [[Stanley (vehicle)|Stanley]] & [[Sandstorm (vehicle)|Sandstorm]] & [[H1ghlander]] & [[TerraMax (vehicle)|TerraMax]] & [[Kat-5 (vehicle)|Kat-5]] (2005) 

message: Anyone else notice that the wording for some of the equipment-related parts comes from http://cs.stanford.edu/group/roadrunner/technology.html? Raazer 13:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much copied from other sources? 

message: This site links to a rather biased WIRED article, and in the Stanford AI lab home page I just found this announcement of another one: "Dec 29, 2005: Stanford built three of the top ten robots ever! According to a recent evaluation by Wired Magazine, three of Stanford's robots were among the top ten robots ever: Stanley (Number 1), Shakey (Number 5), and the Stanford Cart (Number 10). Wired Magazine polled numerous experts to determine the 50 Best Robots Ever. Check it out!"
The problem is, of course, that WIRED is based in San Francisco and has strong ties to Stanford. Local patriotism may be fun, but few if any unbiased roboticists would agree with that list. 
So what kind of "experts" did they poll? Maybe cartoonists, since Number 2 is a fictional Japanese comic strip robot. The other cars that finished shortly after Stanley are not even mentioned...
Probably the list is not meant to be taken seriously. Any serious list would be dominated by real Japanese robots (and would not even mention fictional ones), since Japan dominates robotics research and has 40 percent of the world's robots, including many of the most expensive and sophisticated and famous ones. I don't think any mere car would rank among the top 5. But don't expect WIRED to publish such a list!
Nevertheless, Wikipedia articles such as this one might want to link to a bit more objective sources. 
De-Hyping Stan 17:11, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hype 

message: How much of a challenge was the 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge? The course was precisely layed out by numerous waypoints. No sophisticated planning procedure was necessary. Four separate teams managed to finish the course in time. This seems to suggest that the task was not that hard. In fact, several days before the race the Stanley team leader announced that this time with very high probability there would be a winner, thus confirming the general feelings of other experts. Afterwards, however, he fueled the hype by claiming, rather inconsistently: "The impossible has been achieved!" According to the questionable Wired magazine article he then compared himself to Charles Lindbergh, the first guy to fly across the Atlantic non-stop. No joke! When I read this I couldn't help thinking of the chicken claiming "I'm an eagle."  I am still waiting for the confetti parade :-) De-Hyping Stan 19:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicken and Eagle 

message: Above someone wrote: "The fact that five teams finished is a major accomplishment for the field of robotics, especially given the 2004 results." IMHO this statement is not extremely convincing. What does it tell us about the difficulty of the course when so many teams managed to finish in time, including an insurance company without any prior experience in robotics? And how impressive are the Grand challenge results to those who know what the fast robot cars of Ernst Dickmanns achieved 10 years ago (long distance trips in traffic at up to 110 mph)? ERDI 18:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Hard? 

message: This was an American contest with an American car built by Germans, won by an American team from an American university.  There is no reason to use the British word for the storage area in the back of a car. --76.208.22.50 04:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "boot" -> "trunk" 

message: Has Stanley ever been referred to as a "he" and not "it"? Even though the car really doesn't have a gender, "Stanley" is a male name. dogman15 (talk) 21:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronouns 

message: I put together an article on how we built Stanley here: http://knol.google.com/k/cedric-dupont/building-stanley/QVKExjdp/J7jVSQ . I don't think I should include this content in the main page since this would be shameless self-promotion, but if someone is interested in the background story (and I figure some people monitoring this page might) check it out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.234.193 (talk) 05:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information on how Stanley was built 

message: I was just at the Smithsonian, Stanley is back there, so I'm changing the page to reflect this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telepheedian (talk • contribs) 20:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Location

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