Talk:Only Fools and Horses

message: Someone needs to tidy this up, pronto;
*It's far too complimentary towards the show, it sounds like it's sucking up or was written by some rabid fanboys
*Someone has tried to drop a Macromedia Flash file down the bottom of the page
*There's a list of characters after the external links section.
I'd do it myself, but I've no idea what the show is about. 144.137.189.1
:Sorted some anon additions but not looked into POV/NPOV yet. violet/riga (t) 12:07, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an English expression, and an English page, so it should be fine. IT would be quite hard to explain to a non-national.--Crestville 20:42, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a native English person, and that phrase is completely lost on me. Perhaps it could be changed or explained? - Timsheridan 22:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be pretty hard. It means what it means really. Though if someone can explain it, fair enough. Maybe give it a page.--Crestville 15:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In Scotland a "wide-boy" is a boy/adolecant who is very cocky and arrogant. I don't know if you southerners use it in the same way.Jizz 17:45, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Looks like there is already a description of the term here. The reference in the article is now linked to dispel any misunderstandings of the term. - Timsheridan 00:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I think yer looking for www.jumptheshark.com. This 'aint it. And BTW your totally fucking wrong coz the '96 christmas special was it's peak. It jumped when it came back and Albert was dead and Damo was an annoying chav. --Crestville 01:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you talk shit for a living my lad--Crestville 23:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Don't try and tall me I know nothing you Plonker. Original? My arse. They were ok, a bit of a let down. Don't be such a prick "you two clearly know nothing". Based on our opinions of a TV show? Piss off.--Crestville 23:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title (To Move The Text To Where It Should Be) 

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thread_title: [[Wikipedia: WikiProject Fawlty Towers]]

message: Recently, large descriptions of individual episodes have been appearing on the page. While much of this information is useful, it can make the article excessively long and bogged down with narrative. Any thoughts on transferring this information to separate esisode articles, a la The Simpsons and Fawlty Towers? SteveO 19:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Each episode does not need a synopsis.  Just the episode title will do.  IanUK 21:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Episodes

message: If only all television articles in Wikipedia were this good! It conforms to WP:WIAGA with the exception of only a couple points. The fair-use rationale is missing for The_Green_Green_Grass.jpg. Also in the first section, since Raquel, Cassandra, and Damien are first introduced there, you may want to put Wikilinks to the characters and actors at that point, but this is a minor issue. If it weren't for the fair-use rationale, I would have promoted it now, but I think that one is serious enough to wait until it's done, so I will put it on hold. Congratulations on an excellent article and I am glad this one is joining GA along with Yes Minister and Dad's Army. Now if only someone will work on the Blackadder article... RelHistBuff 11:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, WP:WIAGA doesn't require a fair use rationale. It merely says that the images must be tagged (have a correct copyright tag). --kingboyk 11:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this is Wikipedia policy and is required for all articles whether FA, GA, or stub. Please see Fair use policy. Please correct me if I am wrong. RelHistBuff 12:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments. The image in question now has a fair use rationale. I've also replaced :Image:Only_Fools_and_Horses_2.jpg with one which has a confirmed status and added an f.u.r. to that, too. I've linked the actor and character names in the opening section as suggested above, though Casssandra and Damien don't yet have their own articles. SteveO 19:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA comments

message: As good as OFAH is and  much as I admire Sullivan, to suggest that the show popularised the word 'berk' smacks of hyberbole. The word is an abbreviation of "Berkshire Hunt" which is cockney rhyming slang for the C word. NOt only does it preceed the show by many years but was in very common use.
:Fair point. I've removed it. In any case it's not a word associated with the show in the way that "plonker" and "dipstick" are. SteveO 09:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Berk 

message: currently "OFAH" redirects here, I do not know how to change a redirect, so I was wondering if OFAH could be redirected to  this article, which is about a conservation organization and charity that uses this acronym. thanks
--Jadger 12:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now turned OFAH into a disambiguation page. SteveO 16:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: redirect

message: Hi everybody. I've created a WikiProject for Only Fools and Horses to try and improve the articles in this section. The project can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Only_Fools_and_Horses
I hope you will join and contribute. Cheers! Caissa's DeathAngel 01:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject created! 

message: anyone know if the grandfather's name was ever mentioned
-the-muffin-man- 15:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure it was ever mentioned in the series, but according to this, his name was Edward. SteveO 15:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  grandfather 

message: User:67.133.58.143 recently added information to the Situation section about Del and Rodney's ages. This I disagree with for two reasons:
#Imo that section only be a summary, giving a brief overview of the plot, with minute details such as ages not necessary. All the reader needs to know is that Rodney was very young when their mother died and that Del is much older. 
#The plot of OFAH has more holes than a sieve and the exact age of Rodney (especially) and Del is never certain. For instance, in the episode "Big Brother" (first broadcast 1981) Rodney is 23; in "As One Door Closes" (1985), he is 24; and in "The Unlucky Winner Is.." (1989), he is still only 26. Equally, Rodney's age when their father left varies (6 in "Big Brother", 5 in "Thicker Than Water" etc). Thus, ascribing any one age to them should be avoided. SteveO 19:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ages

message: It certainly looks to be getting there - certainly most of SteveO's peer review points have been met. Is there anything else that needs done first, or should I submit the application sharpish?? Caissa's DeathAngel 02:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest submitting it to another peer review first, in case anything has been missed. The article has changed a lot since then. SteveO 14:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this article ready for an application for Featured Article yet? 

message: I'm going to be really awkward, and ask why Only Fools articles have adopted the convention of using italics for episode titles, while most other programmes and the guidlines at Project Television state that quotation marks should be used. Martpol 18:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now fixed it. SteveO 15:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode title formatting 

message: Many of the OFAH episodes have been edited for their DVD release. Does anyone have a list of what these edits are, and why they were made? Should there be a section on this in the main article?
The episodes were edited as the BBC were unable to get licencing agreements from the relevant artiste's when music is playing in the background.Statto74 16:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited episodes on DVD 

message: Is OFAH particularly popular in former Yugoslavia? The only interwiki links to this page are from old Jugoslavia. A section on OFAH abroad would be kewl. --Montchav 17:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OFAH in Yugoslavia 

message: Im just moving the stuff from the top of the page to the bottom, where its ment to be. --Ferdia O'Brien 20:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving Stuff 

message: Why was the line about Mickey Pearce's sometime partners-in-crime, Jevon and Chris, taken out? They appeared more often than the characters in the next section and yet get no mention. Bentley Banana 01:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jevon and Chris

message: However, in 2008 it has been reported that the character of Del Boy is to never be revisited again. Sullivan was quoted as saying "There will not be another series of Only Fools And Horses. I can say that. We had our day, it was wonderful but it is best to leave it now."
Here's the citation: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/29097/DEL-BOY-IS-DEAD/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.110.252 (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That information was added to the history section earlier today, so there's no need to duplicate. SteveO (talk) 21:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  added news in the spin off section 

message: The four dots after the title in the image... are they hinting at what's to follow when the sticker is peeled off in the animation, or is the actual title of the show Only Fools and Horses...? - Dudesleeper /  Talk 18:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title screen image 

message: Since the intro states that "Only Fools is a British television sitcom...", the present tense should continue throughout, shouldn't it? The characters section, for one, is severely lacking in this aspect. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 23:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tense 

message: The article claims that 24.1 million viewers watched the episode Time On Our Hands, yet when you follow the link it is claimed that 24.3 million viewers watched the episode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_On_Our_Hands  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.121.158.225 (talk) 21:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's 24.3 million, per this and Clark's The Only Fools and Horses Story. SteveO (talk) 22:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistancy 

message: hi can anybody help me i want to go on a only fools and horses tour does anybody have information on any tours thankyou  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.178.39 (talk) 13:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  fools and horses tour 

message: Was this article ever featured on the Main Page, I can't seem to find in the 2007 featured article list.Thanks--George2001hi (Discussion)  13:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article? 

message: Per Clark's The Only Fools and Horses Story, Lennard Pearce did actually film some scenes for the series 4 episode Hole in One, which were subsequently re-shot with Buster Merryfield after Pearce's death. Furthermore, Reg did not refer to Grandad as 'Eldon'; he called him old 'un. SteveO (talk) 11:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent changes

message: Does anyone think it would be a good idea to put this article on the Main Page for the shows 30th anniversary on the 8th September 2011?. Marker10 (talk) 21:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that would be cushty - you will have to nominate it at the Today's Featured Article Requests page nearer the time, although I may drop a note on there for the time being. I think it will probably gain at least 4 points - two for an anniverary and two for promoted way back in 2006. Before being nominated, I would perhaps recommend the article be given a bit of a spring clean - looking at it, it's still very good, but perhaps could do with several of the non-free images being removed. Does it really need three images illustrating the credits for example? Also, there are several uncited facts which could do with citations, for example the second-to-last paragraph of "Theme music and titles" and the whole "scenario" section. I'm very happy to help with these, but don't want to interfere if somebody has a hand on the tiller, as it were. You might also like to prepare a potential TFA blurb. Bob talk 11:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a potential blurb: Bob talk 22:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Sad to hear about his passing. In light of his death, it might be appropriate for this article to go up on the mainpage within the next few days. I would perhaps propose the date of his funeral. Marker10 has indicated that would be a good idea. Any thoughts? Bob talk 13:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Page 

message: His untimely death at 64 is very relevant as it means that FH franchise and spin-off have all now officially ended.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.164.250 (talk) 13:24, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't mean this. Whilst it is likely, no announcement has been made, nor is likely to be for some time. Anything else is guesswork. Quentin X (talk) 15:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

text: "More than likely" does not mean that it has. Until the BBC announces its plans we will not know. Quentin X (talk) 13:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sullivan's death

message: There are 5 paragraphs in the lead, and has citations: there should be no more than 4 paragraphs in the lead, and there cannot be citations in the lead; I was actually thinking about to put this up for Featured Article Review-SCB '92 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd second the motion. Quite a few paragraphs are missing citations completely. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:05, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Why do we not have citations in the lead? Carl Sixsmith (talk) 09:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flaws in the lead 

message: Does any1 have any citations for how to hull and back was shot? Info about the sea footage? Hull and amsterdam? If so please contribute to the episodes page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.216.61.28 (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production section of To Hull and Back 

message: The text could do with some editing to make it clear that this series actually had 2 theme songs, one for the beginning of the programmes and one for the end. The text sometimes refers to these as songs/them, and sometimes as song/it, as if the author is not sure. 
Also a little surprised at the lack of a reference to the lyric "cut prices at a stroke", a jocular reference to a speech made by Ted Heath when he was opposition leader.
Lazyzee (talk) 19:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme song(s) 

message: The text reads that the opening credits "appear over a background of still photographs of everyday life in South London". The still shown (behind Del's title card) in fact shows Holborn station which is north of the river Thames, and therefore is in central or north London. The final still shows Harlech Tower; again, north of the river Thames and lying in west London. I'm less certain of the setting for the other stills, but on the basis of these points, a 'London' description would seem more apt than 'South London' Atchy007 (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme music and titles: Still Photos 

message: There are so many references in the show - made usually by Del Boy to his younger brother Rodney to guilt him into do something - that discuss what their mother said on their deathbed . Check this out: http://www.shortlist.com/quizzes/the-only-fools-and-horses-quiz.  The page should have something about this on it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingright (talk • contribs) 09:18, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  When Your Mother Was on Her Deathbed 

message: I had a look at this article, half-thinking it would be a total mess in start class, and was pleasantly surprised to see the FA tag on it. However, I immediately see several unsourced paragraphs, which is immediate cause for concern. I think with worth it could still be a GA, but I don't think it'll pass muster for an FA anymore. What does anyone else think? PS: I notice three years ago somebody else gave more or less the same opinion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA? 

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message: In the third paragraph, we are told "The series influenced British culture, contributing several words and phrases to the English language". It would be good if some examples were listed.Vorbee (talk) 16:33, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: English language

message: The viewing figures are irrelevant as there were only 3 TV channels when the series begun, instead o the hundreds we have today. Also there were no computers and no Internet. In addition the allegations of racism should be mentioned: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7019750/Censor-Del-Boy-for-being-racist-Dont-be-a-plonker.html (86.160.101.211 (talk) 23:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viewing figures/racism 

message: This article says that "Only Fools and Horses" came top in a poll to find Britain's favourite sitcom in 2004. It could mention that it also topped a poll broadcast on More Four in 2019 to find Britain's 25 favourite sitcoms. Vorbee (talk) 21:46, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: More Four poll to find Britain's 25 top sitcoms

message: The heading of this talk page says that Once Upon a Time in Peckham was nominated for deletion, and the result of the discussion was to merge with and to redirect to this page. If one clicks on Once Upon a  Time in Peckham, one will get redirected to Rock & Chips. Vorbee (talk) 21:53, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Rock & Chips

message: This article says "Only Fools and Horses" topped a BBC poll in 2004 to find the nation's favourite sitcom. It could say that it also topped a more recent poll of the nation's favourite sitcoms that was on Channel Four. Vorbee (talk) 13:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Topped a separate poll

message: on the Del Boy and Rodney  is it possible to just have a picture of just them? Fanoflionking  08:40, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture