Talk:Joe R. Pool

message: H.R. 9342 Marie Tippit
December 3, 1968 Pool authored H.R. 9342 that the Secretary of Treasury shall pay Marie Tipitt, of Dallas, Texas, the sum of $25,000 in recognition by the United States of the sacrifice made by her husband, the late Officer J.D. Tippit, of the Dallas, Texas police department, who was fatally wounded on November 22, 1963 while attempting to apprehend the alleged assassin of the late President of the United States, John F. Kennedy. 
(footnote: 88th Congress 1st Session H.R. 9342 December 3, 1963) Wjpool (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: An encyclopedia article is not intended to record every action that the legislator took while performing his duties. Significant actions, those that had a lasting effect on the nation or on his constituency, should be noted. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please consider adding this heading and content to Joe R. Pool after DFW International Airport 

message: House Un-American Activities Committee
Ku Klux Klan Activities Investigations
U.S. Congressman-At-Large Joe Pool of Texas was acting chairman of these hearings from 1965-1966. 
(we have 5 newspaper articles that we would like to footnote about these hearings)
Vietnam War Protest Groups Investigations
U.S. Congressman Pool was acting chairman of these hearings from 1966-1968. 
(we have 7 newspaper articles/magazine/TV program that we would like to footnote about these hearings)
Wjpool (talk) 15:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, leading these major committees would be significant and should be included. Please note, cite the newspapers by article title, newspaper name, date, author, etc. (see  for help), but do not scan a copy of the article and upload to Wikipedia or Commons; such scans are copyright violation. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  We would like to add this heading and content 

message: Can we provide a PDF of an invoice from Alden Comfort Mills to prove that he had this business? Wjpool (talk) 15:50, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Items you hold in your private collection are not reliable sources. Also, if this is the invoice in question, it proves only that someone wrote the name Joe Pool on a scrap of paper with the Alden Comfort Mills letterhead. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  PDF Insert Under Business Career 

message: Can we provide a PDF of the Joe Pool Campaign Fan to show what he used to campaign throughout his career? Wjpool (talk) 15:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You may use the image as an image in the article, but not as a citation, as it has been used in the past. this image does not verify any fact. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  PDF Insert Under Texas House of Representatives 

message: Can we provide a PDF of the the letter from Senator John F. Kennedy to Joe R. Pool? This letter can be found in the John F. Kennedy library in Boston, MA. Wjpool (talk) 15:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No. If the letter can be found in the JFK Library, then cite that as a source. Your own personal scan of the letter does not have the same reliability as the library's holding. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  PDF Insert Under Kennedy-Johnson Natural Resources Advisory Committee 

message: Can we provide a PDF of the invitation sent to son Wesley J. Pool inviting him to the Post Office dedication to his father? Wjpool (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't bother. The image in question does not serve to verify any information, nor does it serve to enhance the article in any way. It may satisfy you to know that the invitation you received has become part of this Wikipedia article, but it serves no other purpose. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay thank you. Wjpool (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  PDF Insert Under U.S. Postal and Civil Service Committee 

message: Joe Pool Legacies
Pool's staff received many accolades for their professionalism and decorum. In an article by The Dallas Mornings News, Mrs. Patty Tyson, Pool's top Washington aid, while packing up the closing office, stated "the staff had caught up on constituents mail."
Pool mentored office staff under the motto of "overachievement when working for our constituents." In the same article Tyson states "One of Pool's aides, a young Negro named Bill Price, has enrolled in the first class of the new Federal City College which opens here next week. He will be editor of the college newspaper."
(footnote will be from an article from The Dallas Morning News) Wjpool (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, this is the kind of trivia that attaches to any member of Congress. If the action did not have any significant lasting effect, it does not merit mention in an encyclopedia. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  We would like to add the following title and content and the end of this article 

message: While serving in the legislature, Pool authored or co-authored several pieces of legislation one of which was the 1955 bill that created the Trinity River Authority. Wjpool (talk) 15:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Texas House of Representatives we need to rephrase with the following sentence... 

message: This is not the correct name of the committee. The correct name of the committee is
Kennedy-Johnson Natural Resources Advisory Committee
please see website below
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-senator-john-f-kennedy-announcing-natural-resources-advisory-committee
Wjpool (talk) 15:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kennedy/Johnson Environmental Affairs Committee 

message: We need to add to the quote to include the full quote
“One of the salient features of this report calls for the construction of a reservoir on the Elm Fork of the Trinity River upstream from the existing Garza-Little Elm project. Another calls for a similar reservoir in Denton Creek upstream from the Grapevine project. However, there is a remaining stream below Dallas that is uncontrolled--Mountain Creek. This stream embraces a drainage area of 300 sq. miles and presently has no flood control whatsoever. I believe that a project should be undertaken on this stream not only for flood control but for such conservation as can be economically justified." 
we also need to correct the last sentence to read...
In 1961, Pool grew frustrated with the lack of action from the Kennedy/Johnson committee. Pool realized that the flood control recommendations in his report to the committee would require an advocate that had a larger stage. Therefore, he ran for office again in 1962. Wjpool (talk) 15:54, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Kennedy-Johnson Natural Resources Committee  

message: we need to correct spelling of traveled and Vietnam. 
Vietnam in the U.S. is one word according to all newspaper articles and the world wide web.
"he travelled to Viet Nam"
Wjpool (talk) 16:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under U.S. Postal Service Committee 

message: we need to clarify the title and change the spelling
Among them, U.S. House of Representatives Majority Leader, Jim Wright, and others who helped keep the project alive.  Wjpool (talk) 16:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Joe Pool Lake 

message: We appreciate the PDF added JOE POOL FIVE
may we add a PDF of the invitation that shows there was a dedication of the Post Office for Joe Pool? Wjpool (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see that this improves the article in any way. Every post office that is dedicated to someone has a dedication ceremony. This artifact does nothing to further verify the contents of the article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memorials 

message: We updated the first footnote to resolve the full citation needed and afterwards we received this error....
#  University of Texas. July 8, 1991. Cite error: The named reference "VanderHill" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
Please advise. Wjpool (talk) 16:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote Questions 

message: The reliable source is 
Shurlee McGloon's letter to Joe Pool December 20, 1960 which is stored at the JFK Library Boston, MA in the Natural Resources Advisory Committee Department.
In that letter the Kennedy-Johnson Natural Resources Committee's Secretary Shurlee McGloon sent Pool a letter confirming her receipt on behalf of U.S. Representative Frank E. Smith (the committee's director) of Pool's report to the committee. In the December 20, 1960 letter to Pool McGloon states, "on behalf of Congressman Smith who is out of town, I am acknowledging receipt of your letter in which you set your recommendations to the Natural Resources Advisory Committee. Your proposals have been referred to the sub-committee for study."
Wjpool (talk) 16:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The reliable source would be the report itself. Surely that should be part of some congressional record somewhere. Neither Pool's letter that accompanied his submission of the report nor a secretary's letter acknowledging receipt of the report is sufficient to verify the contents of the report. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote 16 says unreliable source 

message: This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.
Find sources: "Joe R. Pool" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR  (August 2022) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)
JSTOR should be categorized under news or newspapers as it is a Catholic Newspaper. Wjpool (talk) 17:02, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: JSTOR is a digital journal archiving service. It archives newspapers and journals of all sorts. There may be a Catholic newspaper archived at JSTOR, but JSTOR is not a Catholic newspaper. Can you point to a particular source that is linked to JSTOR that you think should be changed? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ribbon at the top 

message: I am submitting this request again because this has not been addressed in 4 weeks and other items have been. This is false information.
This is not the correct name of the committee. The correct name of the committee is
Kennedy-Johnson Natural Resources Advisory Committee
please see website below
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-senator-john-f-kennedy-announcing-natural-resources-advisory-committee
Wjpool (talk) 14:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kennedy/Johnson Environmental Affairs Committee<----this needs to be corrected 

message: please correct the date and wording to reflect the facts...
Trinity River canal from Dallas-Fort Worth to Galveston Bay from 1955 to 1974. During this time many of the citizens in Dallas-Fort Worth supported the idea but in 1974 it failed due to the environmentalist opposition.
During this time many of the citizens in Dallas-Fort Worth supported the idea but in a 1973 election called by the Trinity River Authority it failed due to environmentalist opposition. Wjpool (talk) 14:51, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: (partially). The only significant change requested appears to be the date of the project failure from 1974 to 1973. However, the cited source cites reasons beyond just environmentalist opposition for the failure of the bond vote, including the feeling from many that the project was just pork. This information has been added to the paragraph. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas House of Representatives 

message: Spelling error needs to be corrected
travelled to Viet Nam traveled to Vietnam Wjpool (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. Postal and Civil Service Committee Spelling Error 

message: We would like to add an image of the invitation in the margin. Wjpool (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: please disregard Wjpool (talk) 15:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. Postal and Civil Service Committee 

message: Please add the following before "Pool's time on the U.S. Postal and Civil Service Committee"
(we would also like to add an image of the handout given at the ribbon cutting to show the representatives that were responsible for putting a post office in these constituent's neighborhood)
On July 14, 1968 Pool, while on a postal facility inspection tour of facilities in Los Angelas, California and Houston, Texas, died of a heart attack at Hobby Airport in Houston, Texas in the Dallas Times Herald July 26, 1968 in his eulogy of Joe Pool on the House floor of the U.S. House of Representatives speaker John McCormack of Massachusetts said "It can truly be said he died in the line of duty." Wjpool (talk) 15:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Needs a source. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: How do I provide a source in the talk page? I would normally edit the article and include my source with a footnote. But you have asked me to go through the talk page. Wjpool (talk) 22:00, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   You can add citations to talk pages using the same syntax you would use to add a citation to the article. It will help if you add the template  in the section to which you have added citations, so the citations remain attached to the discussion in which they are used. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 23:44, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you I think I've got it Wjpool (talk) 16:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Memorials 

message: this is the website below...
"GovInfo". GovInfo. 2022-09-06. Retrieved 2022-09-06. Wjpool (talk) 15:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote 32 needs to be changed to a website 

message: We would like to add the following...(we have footnotes for reference)
As Congressman from Dallas, Pool was acting HUAC Chairman of these hearings from 1966-1968.
The second time Joe Pool became a national figure was in August of 1966 when he was named to chair a sub-committee that would hold hearings on his bill, H.R. 12047, to make it a federal crime to aid anyone engaged in an armed conflict against the United States in time of undeclared war. Pool subpoenaed the Vietnam anti-war protest organizations and their leaders who resisted the Vietnam War by collecting money for North Vietnam or by blocking troop trains. The American Civil Liberties Union sought to stop the HUAC hearings as an infringement of free speech. A federal judge issued a restraining order to stop Pool's hearings. Pool ignored it saying he would start hearings at the appointed time. Finally, an appeals court dissolved the order and the hearings began on August 16, 1966.
The proceedings were unruly. "Hundreds of people filled the hearing room, and supporters of the anti-war protest heckled the subcommittee and its chairman. Pool was called a racist and "rather a fool." A question from the committee, one witness said, so nauseated him that "I am liable to vomit all over this table." Impatient with these delaying tactics and personal abuse, Pool had more than 50 spectators and witnesses removed. Fifty-four people were arrested. Arthur Knioy, one of the lawyers for the hostile witnesses, began an exchange with Pool that ended with the attorney being dragged from the room as he shouted "Don't touch a lawyer." Other attorneys for witnesses left in protest. When the hearings concluded, the full committee sent Pool's bill, H.R. 12047 to the House, which passed in October 1967. The Senate did not act on the measure before adjournment.
Pool's constituents cheered him when he returned to Dallas. "Most Americans live for the day when they can do something that will go down in history," he told them. "I feel like I did exactly that last week," Pool said.
In the fall 1966 election Pool defeated his Republican challenger. Congressman Pool's HUAC hearings exemplified the tensions that the Vietnam War and race relations produced in the 1960's and gave him his moments of celebrity. Wjpool (talk) 15:32, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, we'll need the source, especially for quoted material. Also, if you are trying to bolster the reputation of your father, I don't know that boasting of his involvement with the House Unamerican Activities Committee is the flex you think it is. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: We have sources for all of this. I didn't know how to provide a footnote on a request on the talk page. Wjpool (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

text: I provided sources above. Wjpool (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Will do from now on. Just went ahead and provided changes to the ones we have done previously. Wjpool (talk) 18:06, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnam War Protest Groups investigations 

message: Under Texas House of Representatives
While serving in the legislature, Pool authored or co-authored
the voters of North Texas rejected the idea due in part to the idea in some quarters that the project was just so much pork, but in Southeast Texas the project "drew strong support." Environmentalist opposition was also a large factor.
U.S. Postal and Civil Service Committee
travelled traveled
Wjpool (talk) 15:33, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Requests: 20 September 2022 

message: It is clear that your intention with your edit requests is to obtain the article in the form you desire, rather than to simply correct factual errors. I do not have the time or inclination to engage in this. I have made my last edit to this page. If any other editors with to engage in this battle of minutiae, that is their business. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have complied with the way you have asked me to request edits to this article. Wjpool (talk) 02:56, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death by 1000 cuts