Talk:Theodor W. Adorno

message: The Beatles aren't mentioned on Theodor Adorno's page, his main claim to fame?184.147.234.152 (talk) 04:42, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "Adorno ghostwrote many Beatles songs"?? Which ones were they exactly? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: The Beatles

message: I'll preface this by saying that my own understanding of philosophy is very minimal.  The intro to this article mentions Adorno's approach to "natural history."  Does "natural history" have a different meaning in philosophical contexts?  The study of plants, animals, and fungi in their natural habitats doesn't really seem to fit with his other areas of work.  What am I missing?
--JDspeeder1 (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with you that sentence is very unclear to me too. "Natural history" is never mentioned in the article again and that sentence has no references.  sounds very bad too. This sentence probably needs to be re-written. -- Mvbaron (talk) 17:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural history 

message: Did I miss something? Did his Jewish father survived in Nazi-Germany? 2003:C6:BF46:4901:1FB:94DA:A06C:EF0C (talk) 07:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this article (in German), his parents fled to the US in 1939. This article (in German) in the Stolperstein project is more extensive. Both parents fled via Cuba to the US and died in New York, Oskar in 1946, Maria in 1952. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to his father in Germany after he himself fled Germany?  

message: Hi all,
I propose that the first sentence of the lead be rewritten as follows:
Theodor W. Adorno (/əˈdɔːrnoʊ/ ə-DOR-noh, German: [ˈteːodoːɐ̯ ʔaˈdɔʁno] ⓘ; born Theodor Ludwig Wiesengrund; 11 September 1903 – 6 August 1969) was a German philosopher, social theorist, and musicologist.
We should keep it to no more than three roles unless there is very good reason to the contrary. (See the WP policy, which in this case I think is good.) There might be a better variant of "social theorist", but the other two seem obvious. He was not a psychologist, and is not known for being a composer. Another option would be simply "philosopher".
I read the entire article yesterday and gave it a (little-needed) copy edit in the process of checking for the introduction of material inserted to support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, which has made its way into related articles. This one seems clean. Must be too intimidating!
That is just to say that my proposal is based, not only upon my own estimation of my own knowledge of the subject, but also upon what is supported by the article.
I'll leave this here a while for discussion and swing back around to make the change if no one responds within a few days. We can always reopen the issue if anyone who disagrees only finds this after the edit.
Cheers, Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 23:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit to first sentence of lead 

message: The article says "His mother, a Catholic from Corsica, was once a professional singer, while his father, an assimilated Jew who had converted to Protestantism, ran a successful wine-export business." So in what way was Theodor Jewish? Presumably only just by descent, not by religion, although he did have some contact with Jewish organisations? Are all of the six Jewish Categories justified? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that had the effect of an IP trying to remove the context of his father's conversion. I've reverted that change but I think we should probably open the discussion with what reliable sources say about Adorno's religion. I know far right types like to think all us scary neo-Marxists are part of a Jewish conspiracy but what do the actual sources say? Simonm223 (talk) 12:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish?