Talk:Fred Merkle

message: It is "generally believed" that the Cubs are cursed?  Come on.  Sure, I know that it's something people talk about a lot, but I seriously doubt that the typical baseball fan actually believes in a curse.  Wikipedia should be more circumspect in its claims about what people "generally believe."  76.170.117.188 (talk) 07:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Curse?

message: Merge Merkle Boner → Fred Merkle - Neither article is rather long and while I'm guessing Merkle was a good player, there is no claim to notability other than the Merkle Boner.  All in all, two almost stubs can make the start of one decent article if they are merged together. --Bobblehead (rants) 04:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * I'm against this.  The player and the event are two different things. 70.222.89.20 07:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is commonplace for events to be included in the article for the most prominent person in that event. The only time a sub-article is created is when the amount of information related to that event is exceedingly large.  As an example, the Ferdinand Magellan article is primarily about his voyages and especially the circumnavigation. For a baseball related example, Bill Buckner's error is on his article and not in an article of its own.--Bobblehead (rants) 17:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * I support Bobblehead, for the reasons that he stated.--Epeefleche 00:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal 

message: I would like the author(s) of this article to back up his/her/their statement that "the rule allowing a force play after a potential game-winning run was not well-known."  The sense of the game itself makes this highly unlikely.  For example, if this rule was not, in fact, well known, then runners advancing from third base, with two outs, ahead of a put out at first base (the third out, ending the inning) would be permitted to score, and undeservedly so.  With two outs, there is no incentive for the runners on base to wait and see the outcome of the batter's swing.  They would be off at the batter's making contact.  They would be very likely to score, even with the runner put out at first.  This would be, to put it mildly, seen as inequitable, and so the rule had been put in place.
So I challenge whomever wrote that line: who says it was not a well-known rule?
C. Laing
Lawrence KS  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.147.166 (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Force-out rule comment just plain wrong? 

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