Talk:Brown hair

message: The teenage boy doesn't really have brown hair, it looks quite blondish.  Can't we get a better representation? -24.149.193.49 (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's way too much subjective opinion about hair color to say so. Case in point: I personally see that teenage boy's picture as being mislabeled as "light", he looks more medium brown to me. 63.87.189.17 (talk) 14:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Second Image

message: Allwords.com defines a brunette as: A woman or girl with brown or
dark hair and as an adjective: Said of Hair Colour: brown,usually dark
brown.  So, maybe brunette defined as having dark-brown or black hair,
esp. dark-brown hair is just common usage,but it can also apply to simply
brown or light brown hair, but isn't very commonly used. So, what do you
think? 4.124.92.184
:Hmmm.  I see people have queries and opinions on this point.  I think I'll see if I can work this into the article.   — Chameleon Main/Talk/Images 19:29, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brunette 

message: The page used to contain an image of Sharon Corr, from her official web page. It is almost certainly not fair-use in this context, so we need a new free image to illustrate Brunette. Any takers? David Remahl 16:30, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. David Remahl 13:29, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of a brunette 

message: Considering that "brunette" only describes half of all people with brown hair, shouldn't the article "brunette" redirect to "brown hair" instead of the other way around? -Branddobbe 09:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. See red hair and blond for comparison. Get someone to delete the 'brown hair' redirect, then move it. Trollderella 09:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Move is completed.  The page still needs some fixing-up to make the new article name make sense. —Cleared as filed. 04:48, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page title

message: Whoever keeps changing the photo needs to stop,that eurasian women picture doesn't show brown hair
she does have dark brown hair...she is a true brunette.  (69.117.27.68 03:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much editing of the photo 

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thread_title:  Protection 

message: I don't understand why we can't put a picture of an dark brown Eurasian female. The brown haired female was longer than the other picture. We need a new picture.  A brunette cleary says any female with dark brown hair...so what is exactly wrong with the Eurasian female...she has dark brown hair...she's the perfect example of an brunette...  (207.156.196.242 15:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont agree, the image is clearly photoshopped, thus not natural. her hair might be un-natural aswell.. Foant 20:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't understand...

message: I think there should be a list of famous people or celebrities who are or have temporarily been or played as brunettes, but it should probably only include women who have really dark hair (dark-brown or black hair), since it isn't agreed upon as to whether women with light or lighter shades of brown hair really are brunettes.
Yeah add women like Sarah Silverman,Catherine Zeta Jones,Neve Campbell,Annabella Sciorra,Jennifer Love Hewitt,Fran Drescher,Lacey Chabert,Marisa Tomei,etc as examples of famous Brunettes.
:First of all, since this article is about brown hair in both sexes, the list would have to be of famous brunettes and famous brown-haired men. Secondly, such a list would rapidly grow out of control due to the enormous numbers of famous brown-haired people. I think the article is better off without such a list. Angr (talk • contribs) 07:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that despite the article's purpose, the Culture section seems to focus exclusively on females or female entities with brown hair.  I suppose it needs some work.Unmotivate 06:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Famous Brunettes 

message: i always reffered to my hair color as brunnete, hmm so the whole time i've been calling me hair; "little dark-haired girl" haha Soppy324 06:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  brunnete = woman? 

message: So, what is everyone's opinion on whether light or lighter shades of brown hair are really brunette? Anyone consider light or lighter shades of brown hair blond, because blond is sometimes defined as having light hair and light brown hair could possibly be considered light hair. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.124.73.164 (talk) 14:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light brown hair, brunette? 

message: I first noticed this term in a celeberity magazine.  It refers to hair colour that's darker than blond but lighter than what's normally considered brunette.  I wonder if it'll catch on? 
I for one hope it does.  It sounds nicer, to me anyway, than dirty blonde  or bleachy brown .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.37.139 (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bronde maybe?

message: Anybody with brown hair, natural or otherwise, is a brunette or brunet to use the correct male term.  Contrary to popular belief, the french word brun or brune without an adjective behind it, doesn`t mean dark.  It simply means brown and there are as many shades of brown as any other colour.  One does not have to have dark eyes or a dark skin tone to qualify as a true brunette.  Given that line of reasoning, people with blond hair shouldn`t be considered true blonds unless they have yellow eyes and swallow skin tones. That said, I believe light brown hair could go either way.  A person could add a few hi-lites and be a blonde or a few lo-lites and be brunette.  It`s up to the individual.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.167.248 (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper Definition 

message: This article is very poor in comparision with the blonde and red hair articles.
I agree. All the other articles have more scientific studies and more examples of symbolism and culture. Can someone please do the same for this article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.77.152 (talk) 13:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very poor 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Gentlemen Marry Brunettes (1955 film).jpg

message: The article starts out like this: "Brown hair is the second most common hair color, with black being the most common."
Ok, that's just because Asians have black hair, and Asia has like the biggest population out of all countries in the world. I think stating it the way it's stated is inaccurate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.140.76 (talk) 12:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased 

message: I have the deepest brown hair colour and pale skin with blue eyes, and the deffinitions i saw.. stated that brunette means brown hair dark eyes with a dark complexion. Just asking if that's true. Is it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.23.236 (talk) 20:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A Question

message: I am removing the Gloria Steinem quote because it is random and doesn't belong in an article on hair color. Also, Brunette has always generally referred to medium brown to very dark brown (not real black) hair, not ONLY medium brown. That is completely FALSE.
That quote is also VERY distracting to the article. --CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 23:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gloria Steinem 

message: Please not change photos. Photos best represent the various hair colors and this has already been discussed. I don't think that photos of celebrities with hair dyed an unnatural color should be representative of that hair color. Aishwarya Rai does not have auburn hair. We already have good photos in place in the gallery. The man with auburn hair may have a slightly lighter auburn hair color, but it is a good choice.--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 00:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos - Please do not change 

message: Why does the article state that brown hair "strands are thicker than those of fair hair but not as much as those of red hair?" Is there any kind of reputable source for this?
I have extremely fine, dark brown hair and know I'm not the only one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.108.118 (talk) 09:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thickness of brown hair 

message: Clearly both Elena Risteska and Jennifer Love Hewett have died their hair. As do most movie stars and a lot of women in general. True brown or dark brown hair typically lack red, depth and that unnatural shine that comes from chemical enhancement. These pictures should be replaced by better ones. Lorielle (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: My hair is naturally dark brown and it has red highlights.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote "typically", which means there can be individual exceptions. But natural red highlights is not the same as those reds which are created by artificially toned hair. The most common type of dark brown hair is neither reddish or glossy. I think the pictures should show natural hair colours and be representative of how most hair colours in that category looks. Lorielle (talk) 07:52, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I think you have it backwards. Most natural shades of brown hair have reddish or golden highlights. It's the matte quality of dyed hair which typically gives it away. BTW, you need to back up your statements and assertions with reliable sources.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:37, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I could ask the same from you to back up yours. I'm a trained colour consultant and I talk from that experience, though of course that is not proof. Could be that we don't mean the same thing by red highlights. But regardless who is right, the two celeb photos clearly have died hair. An article about human hair colour variations should depict natural hair colours, I'm sure we can agree on that? So, how does one find more suitable photos in the public domain? Lorielle (talk) 22:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that we should not use photographs of people (celebs, plebs or otherwise) with dyed hair. Commons has plenty of free images to choose from. My hair is naturally dark brown and has red highlights as you can see in the image here taken when I was 13 years old and long before I began tinting my hair.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not typical brown hair. That looks like the much more unusual auburn (= mix between brown and red). If those are freckles, it supports the probable presence of the gene variation that comes with red hair. Normally, any 'red highlights' in brunettes show mainly in direct sunlight. Plain brown hair typically looks like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burt_Reynolds_1991_cropped.jpg Found that one in Commons (after a very frustrating clicking spree). Can we use that one in the article? Lorielle (talk) 04:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have freckles across my nose and my father was Irish. His own dad had auburn hair so it's possible my natural hair colour was indeed auburn although legal documents listed it as brown. Aren't civil servants imaginative? I think the Burt Reynolds photo would look good in the article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Then it's OK if I replace a couple of the pictures? I also see that the guy posted as example of 'auburn' is probably more of a true redhead (I've noticed that pale, thin or undistinct eyebrows is a more common feature in real redheads, whereas those with auburn brown hair tend to have the darker eyebrows and lashes of brunettes). Your personal picture would be a perfect example of natural auburn, I don't suppose you'd permit the use of it in the article? Lorielle (talk) 12:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind if you use my photo in the article. Go ahead, it's in the Public Domain. Yes, it's a good idea to change some of the photos.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:09, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, thanks! Lorielle (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replaced some of the pictures now. Could someone possibly crop the bikini girl? I'm not sure how to do that, and her other assets sort of distract from her hair.Lorielle (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I now removed Elena Risteska. Googling around a bit, she can be found with a range of different hair colours and is probably just plain dark brown underneath. I'm also suspicious of Lymari Nadal unnaturally glossy and dark hair: for an american actress to have her natural hair colour is rather unheard of, so I've replaced her with a chinese lady who seems to have a more natural shade of very dark brown. This also makes the article less euro-centric. Lorielle (talk)
Please see the discussion on varieties of brown hair below. CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 05:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celeb pix with dyed hair 

message: *Wikipedia:Merging
I propose that Chestnut hair be merged into Brown hair. I think that the content in the Chestnut hair article can easily be explained in the context of Brown hair, and the Brown hair article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Chestnut hair will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 70.15.11.44 (talk) 07:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I don't get the distinction between brown hair and black hair based on this article. It all looks black to me. This article only adds to the confusion. Btw, the definition of word can change too. It's called semantic derivation or simply "blending" of words. Bye. --95.134.73.56 (talk) 11:48, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is non-informative 

message: The photo of Elena Risteska is inappropriate. Firstly, it is  an unprofessional photo (left upper corner cut off). Secondly, the woman's hair was probably dyed with streaks.
Morover, the difference between medium brown and chestnut brown should be clearly visible.
--Friedolf (talk) 15:23, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chestnut brown 

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message: after the direct and non-shattered reflection in direct light doesn't reflect more than five per cent of the light, you would call it "light-brown" and not "dark-blonde". and the cosmetics industry (or whatever) could not have defined it differently. There might be a reason for it. it might be because of the fur hygiene of europides. exactly at the actual limit to "black", the europides would see dirt and parasites the best and see if the hair was healthy. exactly in that ratio the night sight sets relative to daylight. this might be kind of an objective definition and not a subjective impression. the limit to actual black in a 'scientific sense'. our cats get red fur because of infections and bacterias when they are sick. ever noticed that rough black areas cannot reflect less than 12.5 per cent of the light? and also when flat, there is always a rough component. it might be atom geometry. In all other Ethnicities, there are the same mechanism, except that the hair is only exactly twice as light. one nuance is equivalent to a multiplication or division of the brightness with the factor 1.33 . Blacks, Mediterraneans and Asians have it exactly half as light normally distributed around another 'healthy' average. maybe an exaggerated fact, but it might be not just media manipulation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C6:E742:CA00:407E:9B8E:784:12CE (talk) 06:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  5 percent hurdle