Talk:Donkey punch

message: Donkey punch films do exist, as this something awful review can demonstrate.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/horrors-of-porn/donkey-punch.php
http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=Donkey+Punch/year=2005/Donkey-Punch.htm
I will use the link from iafd as a citation that it has become a real 'theme' in porn movies?
Does this qualify it as being removed from the sexual urban legends?   Verdafolio 14:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if these are reputable sources, and I'm not sure, my point above about events in film not actually being true still seems to apply. --Maxamegalon2000 17:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article change

message: http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/donkey-punch/
This link gives a different definition to the term.  --24.57.221.117 (talk) 01:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no "proper" definiton of the term. However, popular consenus has deemed the donkey punch to be a punch delivered to the back the head of the person you are having intercourse with, and that is the only definiton I have ever heard of. One person's opinion is dubious, however you might get away with adding this as an alternative definition. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper definition? 

message: I find the reference to male anal rape in prisons in theis section quite offensive. Prison rape, despite what the mainstream media would like people to believe, is not funny, and shouldn't be used to make a somewhat meretricious point about rape as a deterrent. People are sent to prison for punishment, not to be raped for punishment. ▫ Urbane Legend chinwag 00:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Medical and legal risks" 

message: I think it should be stated near the beginning of the article that, when used, the donkey punch is almost exclusively executed during or just before the orgasm of the penetrating partner.  I may be mistaken and I haven't found any sources to cite.Veecort (talk) 13:26, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait a minute... you're discussing the timing of a sexual technique that isn't even real? Guys.... focus, please. --J-Star (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If we start ignoring omissions in this article then what is next? What will we let go next?  Just let important facts be omitted from any article? This is serious business. Veecort (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timing is (allegedly) very important. 

message: Maybe, just maybe, correctly defined, a donkey punch is to the kidney area, or not; I don't know.  Because I trust Dan Savage I will believe that it is a rabbit punch and not a kidney punch.  But that leaves me wondering about the definition in the link above and also the scene from Oz.  The definition from the link above is supposedly from a magazine called Popbitch.  I believe it goes without saying that this is serious business and we need to clarify this kidney versus rabbit thing sooner rather than later.  I am all over it but I am not an authority on the matter.Veecort (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kidney punch and not a rabbit punch at all?

message: Is this a joke page? It has references to Urban Dictionary for crying out loud.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poposhka (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is only one reference to Urban Dictionary.  Personally, I do not think that particular paragraph deserves to be in the article, nor do I believe that the reference is very valid.  I do not even know for sure if there is anywhere on the body that you can punch someone to make anally penetrating them more enjoyable.  To answer your question Poposhka, No, this article is not a joke. This is serious business. Veecort (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joke 

message: Does :File:Donkey punch.jpg provide a clear or ambiguous illustration of the subject of the article (i.e., should it be kept or removed)? -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the image fails to clearly illustrate the subject of this article. It is not at all clear that the image depicts a donkey punch, and it appears just as likely (if not more so) that the man is flexing his muscles while standing behind the woman or that he is simply preparing to punch a nude woman on all fours. I think it should be removed from the article on the grounds that it does not help readers' understanding of the topic. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  File:Donkey punch.jpg 

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message: The picture is blatantly sexist and offensive. The fact that it seems amusing and benign to some participants of this discussion gives even more cause for concern. That it seems to portray violence towards women in a way that can be perceived as lighthearted and funny, encourages violence against women by normalizing it. Furthermore, the heteronormative view of sex excludes homosexual relationships and people. The fact that Wikipedia is founded on open source philosophy gives even more reason to remove the picture: in this portrayal of sex, LGBTQA people are excluded, women are victimized, and the Wikipedia space ceases to be democratic, instead becoming a male-dominated and hetero-dominated domain. The picture is violent and should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.110.98.8 (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the language of the article seems quite gender-neutral - it sounds like it would be just as boneheaded a move when used on a man. :) Wnt (talk) 07:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Oh, you really do a great job of illustrating the grown-up mentality of the people who what this unpleasant and useless image kept here. Excalibre (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you really need to stop with the personal attacks.Cptnono (talk) 04:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder why you addressed this comment to me and didn't say a thing to the person I was replying to. Excalibre (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: December 2011 campaign/kudus/complaints 

message: This site looks more and more like encylopediadramatica every day! How long do you suppose it will be before Wikipedia has an offended page and an article on goatse? Oh wait you already have one of the two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse also kudos for the picture it really made me smile  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.65.235 (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you really do a great job of illustrating the grown-up mentality of the people who what this unpleasant and useless image kept here. Excalibre (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you really need to stop with the personal attacks.Cptnono (talk) 04:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder why you addressed this comment to me and didn't say a thing to the person I was replying to. Excalibre (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bravo! 

message: the lead says the goal is to create anal tensing, but earlier says that it's "allegedly" used during both anal or vaginal penetration. Does that mean that the vagina also tenses when someone hypothetically does this? Rodaen (talk) 13:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  anal/vaginal tensing conflict 

message: How was the Jeopardy contestant's answer incorrect?  Technically, this term DOES describe a blow to the back of the neck, and it IS named for an animal.
It's not like the guy said "Falcon Punch."  Oh, wait--  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop culture 

message: Reading this, I have to wonder if it's a plausible misinterpretation of something else.  Cats and skunks are well known for biting the back of the neck to induce ovulation (they also make use of barbed penises, which likewise are not to be recommended!)   Actually, even things as far diverged as stingrays engage in copulatory biting.   Even humans apparently have some chance of coitus-induced ovulation  - though from that source it looks like eroticism, rather than trauma, is what can trigger release of an extra egg and thus twin infants.  My guess is that a gentle playful slap, nibble, etc. which is welcomed by the woman and contributes to the sensation of orgasm, should plausibly have some chance of increasing her fertile response.  Of course, I still don't have any way right now to go from this to anything that would be acceptable under WP:NOR. Wnt (talk) 23:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this some exaggeration/misinterpretation? 

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thread_title: File:"Donkey punch" (animated).gif Nominated for Deletion

message: ... here. --JN466 19:43, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Related discussion on Jimbo's talk page ...

message: The content of this article concerns me.
# There seems to be a determined effort to label this as a fictional thing; certainly we have references stating it is dangerous, and Dan Savage commenting that it is "a sex act that exists only in the imaginations of adolescent boys". I'm worried we are synthing this material, though, to act as a form of disclaimer.
# With that said we are sorely lacking any historical context for the term/"practice" - where did it come from? Does anyone claim to use it? etc.
# I personally have issues with the lead term "fictional" - the supposed outcome of the act is certainly fictional, but is the use? The fact this is now in the slang dictionaries indicates widespread knowledge of the act; so are people using it?
Essentially what we have are slang dictionary definitions, a sex columnists opinion and a medical view of the dangers. I feel we are missing a critical piece of the puzzle that lets us actually write a neutral article - and that piece is origins and use in the real world. As fun as the crusade, and counter-crusade, is against the image I feel it is the least of the issues with this article (which has been sly-POV butchered beyond belief). --Errant (chat!) 23:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Savage would normally be the go-to source for a slang term like this. But per your quote from one of his two pieces mentioning the term, he's totally dismissive of it, characterising it as something simply made up by people who only fantasise about sex, rather than have any. What secondary sources we've found present this as a linguistic term and urban legend arising in the late 1990s/early 2000s (with the exception of a couple of illustrations in film). Find us a sexologist who comments on this as a notable sexual practice ... --JN466 02:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Hi ErrantX, I agree that this article is a jumble of barely related info.  It needs to cover the origins of this term at the very least; I started a discussion about that above (see "#History").  Of course people have done a donkey punch, so "fictional" isnt the best description, however the reason it is notable is the myth is that it has a benefit. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerns 

message: I found a donkey punch gif on imgur so I think its a valid source since I saw some imgur cited sources before http://i.imgur.com/Lj7xE.gif
So I think that image should be added to the article --F_JUNK_DUMP 23:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donkey Punch gif 

message: I've fixed the quotation after the screen cap seen at http://guyspeed.com/jeopardy-contestant-asks-what-is-a-donkey-punch-video/. Didn't think the page merits inclusion in the references (also I don't know how to do that). Hope this is alright. --84.63.171.10 (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed Jeopardy quote 

message: The article as currently written incorrectly implies that the idea of the Donkey Punch originated in the 20th century. 
This is incorrect, it in fact dates back to at least the eighteenth century, being described at least twice in the Marquis de Sade's The 120 Days of Sodom, although it was not therein referred to by the modern english name "donkey punch"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.6.113 (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Both the "27th criminal passion" and "44th criminal passion" described in Part 3 of The 120 Days of Sodom bear a striking resemblance to the modern concept of "donkey punching".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.6.113 (talk) 04:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Information regarding time of origin 

message: The idea that this doesn't work is completely false. There might not be any mechanism by which the anal sphincter contracts simply from a light blow to the head, but if you knock the recipient unconscious or kill them it certainly does work. Gerry Radulovic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.166.48.244 (talk) 16:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for that?  My impression (though I didn't look it up...) is that it is common knowledge that the sphincters let loose at time of death. Wnt (talk) 17:10, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Doesn't even work" 

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