Talk:Mozarabic Rite

message: Are you sure that the rite has parts in Arabic?
The usual tongues of Mozarabs and Muladis would be Mozarab languages.
Arabic was a language of culture, but I doubt that they would hold mass in it.
The linked Catholic Encyclopedia article has quotes in Latin and Greek but no Arabic.
--Error 01:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The name "Mozarabic" came later. It was also named "Hispanic". --Error 20:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Language

message: Huh?  That's really surprising for a religious practice.  Let's try giving just a little more editorial content and judgment in the first paragraph of an "objective" entry!  Maybe we should put that same comment in as boilerplate for all religious articles!
: I also find the statement rather un-encyclopedic.  Could we at least have a source for it?  Failing that, perhaps it would be best to remove it. Adso de Fimnu 17:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Widely reputed to be spiritually fulfilling? 

message: Can someone verify the statement about Mary as a "co-redemptrix"? I'm not sure that use of that term is theologically correct in this context.  Majoreditor 22:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Co-redemptrix? 

message: I come from a completely non-Catholic church background, and am interested in the rite and liturgy that supposed to be discussed in this article, however, after reading it I have no clear picture whatsoever of what a typical liturgical meeting would look like. Perhaps some more examples, or at least some further reading links? Batman080580 21:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a great idea.  I would also like to see a little of the history of the rite with examples as it developed of what the elements looked like.  Reverend Mommy 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information about the liturgy? 

message: Is there not a mass celebrated in Arabic in Toledo?
No, it is in Latin or in Spanish nowadays. Also no text  have been found of the mass in Arabic and  I doubt it was once celebrated in Arabic. --DaniloVilicic (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it in Arabic? 

message: The text  says: "...though the Roman was included in the footnotes and was the one used in actual practice (the new Missal contains the Roman words of institution within the text itself)."
As far as I know, the new Missal restituted the Mozarabic words of institution not those of the Roman Missal, it says:
"Accípite et manducáte:
Hoc est Corpus meum
quod pro vobis tradétur.
Quotiescúmque manducavéritis,
hoc fácite in meam commemoratiónem."
and:
"Hic est calix novi testaménti
in meo Sánguine
qui pro vobis et pro multis effundétur
in remissiónem peccatórum.
Quotiescúmque bibéritis,
hoc fácite in meam commemoratiónem."
Maybe that passage should be rewritten to clarify.--DaniloVilicic (talk) 19:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Words of institution

message: I concur to the usefulness of a skeletal outline of the Rite itself; either a link to a site with the full rite spelled out (there must be one somewhere) or a short outline (Introit...Gradual...etc.) with a brief note as to the similarities and differences with Roman and Gallican. (Ditto Unites, etc.)
Also, the main lacuna is any mention at all of 'los seises' the dance observed twice per year at Toledo and Seville under this rite. See Lynn Matluck Brooks' book, pp. 93 et passim, for the references to this; the documentation begins with the re-establisment of the rite under Cardinal Cesneros in 1504.Dellaroux (talk) 20:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested Inclusions

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