Talk:PlayStation 3/Archive 3

message: See them . Do you think this should be an External link? • Thorpe • 11:24, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  All new images 

message: "Reports quoting high-ranking Sony officials" is kinda vague, if those reports quote unnamed officials rather than Sony announcing it outright then it's probable that Sony's only implying a simultaneous as a business strategy. They suggest that the PS3 will be available in North America just six months after the Xbox 360, people might believe it and hold off. Then when it doesn't come out, Sony's had time to build more hype and also note that they never announced a Spring 2006 release for North America. So they get the effect of an official announcement without the responsibility to uphold their word. I don't know, I guess I jsut don't agree with the wording and had to share my thoughts.
:: Why would they hold off if the Xbox 360 was any way near as good? The X-box had a quite short life, maybe people do not mind playing it a few months longer. A global launch usually has at least days between different areas. Further information still has to be revealed. ShotokanTuning 09:10, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simultaneous Launch 

message: Hello,
I am the webmaster of the original 'Playstation 3 Resource Centre', setup back in October 2001.  I have provided information, news alerts, forums, polls and images for my users for some years now.  The site is unbiased and contains useful and relevant resources for those interested in Playstation 3.  Before the 'Playstation 3' article was protected, I placed a link to my website in the external links section, I now see it has been removed.  Could someone please re-consider my website for addition to this excellent resource.
Kindest  Regards
Craig Hughes
Playstation 3 Resource Centre
http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3
:: Although your website is very well done and has accurate and frequently updated news, this isn't the purpose of wikipedia. The links section should be used to link original content that is directly relevant to the article. As your website is a collection of links to other news sources, there is no original content, interviews or information that could not be found elsewhere. If you do have original content or information to add to the wikipedia, please feel free to update the PS3 page once it is unlocked. Thank you for taking the time to post. --Thax 18:35, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: While this is funny, IMO, it does not add anything factually relevant to the encyclopedia article. It is a humorous and fictitious parody of a news story. Given the way that it is presented and that it was linked to by Wikipedia, many people might think it to be true. Also, the link provided is not anchored, nor does it go to an archived copy. This means that it won't be relevant in as little as a few weeks. Linking to your own blog is frowned upon as it is oft enseen as self-promotion and advertising. WAvegetarian (talk)  (email)   (contribs) 20:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

text: It's not only frowned upon, it's technically against WP guidelines (see Wikipedia:External_links#What_should_not_be_linked_to #2). --bbatsell | « give me a ring » 01:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link... 

message: I wrote up a humorous piece about Playstation 3s on my blog and thought I'd share a smile with people who are following up to date developments. It's here: 
Playstation 3 humor piece 12/17/2005
Realberserker 20:23, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: While this is funny, IMO, it does not add anything factually relevant to the encyclopedia article. It is a humorous and fictitious parody of a news story. Given the way that it is presented and that it was linked to by Wikipedia, many people might think it to be true. Also, the link provided is not anchored, nor does it go to an archived copy. This means that it won't be relevant in as little as a few weeks. Linking to your own blog is frowned upon as it is oft enseen as self-promotion and advertising. WAvegetarian (talk)  (email)   (contribs) 20:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

text: It's not only frowned upon, it's technically against WP guidelines (see Wikipedia:External_links#What_should_not_be_linked_to #2). --bbatsell | « give me a ring » 01:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Another external link

message: DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
:: DualDisc is compatible with all CD/DVD devices and not need exclusive compability with it. --Mateusc 05:01, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Storage 

message: I have heard rumours that the PS3 will use the new Soundblaster X-Fi card, due out Fall 2005... Including Creative themselves saying "Expect to see X-Fi in everything from game consoles to..."
Anybody care to either shoot this down, or confirm it?
--Wulf 05:45, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
: Sony will use simply 5.1 Dolby Digital solution.
:: Please sign your posts on talk pages :) Also, could you please state your source? --Wulf 04:30, September 13, 2005 (UTC)
::: The source is official press release and Cell processor docs. Sony will never use third party sound solution. --Mateusc 12:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I didn't really put much truth in it, given that Sony has always been against using 3rd party soundcards... Thanks for shootin' that down :) --Wulf 19:24, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creative Soundblaster X-Fi 

message: Why has the release date been changed from Spring 2006 to Fall 2006 (by Xizer)?  As far as I know, the correct release date is Spring 2006... As verified by  Sony chairman and CEO Howard Stringer. --Wulf 03:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's spring so far, but people have been speculating Sony will wait till fall. Amren (talk) 10:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I assumed as much, but just wanted to double-check over here on the talk page. I see User:151.203.219.193 has already fixed it :) --Wulf 19:30, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The release date has been changed to April 29th.  Can we verify that this is this official?the1physicist 07:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: I suggest that the section on region coding is edited. As for as I know, nothing has been confirmed. I think that, especially, non-region coding on movies is rather unlikely, and the quotation is focused on games. Martin 14:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Region Coding 

message: I suggest we archive some of the outdated sections of talk, as the page is becoming rather lengthy, so that it takes quite a while to load...
My idea would be to move all the currently outdated sections to "/Archive 1" (to be renamed to "/Pre-launch Archive 1" after launch...) After launch move all the remaining speculation to "/Pre-launch Archive 2". After that I suppose we could start with "/Archive 1" and go on from there...
--Wulf 03:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Archive? 

message: If memory serves me correctly, SquareEnix has broken away from Sony and joined up with Microsoft.  They are planning to release Final Fantasy XIII on the Microsoft Xbox 360, as well as re-release Final Fantasy XI and XII on Microsoft systems.
:Nope sorry, FFXIII is scheduled for the PS3.  FF:CC2 for the Revolution, and FFXI for the 360.  FF11 as you may know is an MMORPG and far from a mainstream Final Fantasy title.  Theres no rerelease for FF12 planned. Taladar 09:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Taladar is correct, SquareEnix has totally stayed with Sony, but has soem side projects on the other consoles.ShotokanTuning 13:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SquareEnix and Final Fantasy 

message: You should put a note in that section, the backwards compatibility section should get a note refering that the sources are unofficial and may be rumors. Jzhang 16:19, 18 November 2005 (PST)
:: Yeah, Famitsu just confirmed in this week that controller is definitive and will not be changed. Gamespot just classify the rumours of re-estilization as "Bogus". I think the controler is the final because your official photo diponible in http://www.playstation.com/products.html --Brazil4Linux 18:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Famitsu confirmed from Sony that they wouldnt be revealing controller changes at the big show in January.  It was rumor-spreading websites like Joystiq that took that and twisted it to say the controller will never change.  Anything to drum up more traffic I guess. Taladar 16:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Will not have changes - the controller is definitive since E3 2005. I know that lot of people think the controller ugly. Doesn't have official words of Sony on changes, The controller is final since E3 and press releases divulged. --Brazil4Linux 13:30, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backwards compatibility news actually rumors 

message: Any ideas how many gigabytes of space the Hard Drive will provide?  Dionyseus 19:17, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Kutaragi says at E3 that 80 GB is the minimum and the 120 GB is the ideal. --Brazil4Linux 09:38, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard Drive

message: Going to rearrange the topics some in order of importance.  If anyone doesnt like the new layout mention something here. Taladar 10:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order 

message: Any idea what interface the hard drives will be under?
It'll be cool if sata drives allow hard drive chaining
:There's no indication yet... It will probably be whatever is cheapest; likely ATA or SATA.  For a single drive setup there is little reason to choose one interface over the other for a game console right now -- uberpenguin 13:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard drive interfaces 

message: I don't think the animation style of the controller works with the squigly lines. I also think there might be a copyright issue.
:: Could you clarify to what you're referring? --Doom127
::: There is no copyright issue.  Some kid on the gamespot forums made it.
::::Copyrights issues or not, it's still fanfare and opinionated, and it really has no place in the article.  This isn't a place for "myth debunking," only facts. -- uberpenguin 21:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animation For Controller 

message: Right now the only official sony word is spring 2006, and they reiterated spring 2006 at CES.  
: I read a lot of news and I didn't see that.  EETimes said that, but they were talking about some Sony people they talked to.  Not a very reliable source either.  Official references from Sony said 2006 without any more clarification. Daniel.Cardenas 05:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please site a reliable reference from Sony.  I removed the Spring reference and put 2006 which is what the latest official sources from Sony say.  Sony official sources say summer for standalone blu-ray disk player.  So March release for PS3 is not realistic. Daniel.Cardenas 05:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it's a backtracking thing. There were a ton of sources to point to spring 2006, including all the major gamesites that got that as an official date from sony, and an interview with one of the sony bigwigs. However now that they are just saying "2006" as the official line leads me to believe that the rumors about them not making a spring release are problary true. So I guess all the old sources are thrown out, and we just go by what they said at CES today, 2006. Seraphim 05:39, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where's your source Daniel.  Where's your source that Sony changed it 2006.  Dionyseus 06:03, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.sony.com/ces/playstation.shtml.  Its listed as a refence in the main page.  Daniel.Cardenas 06:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That little page cannot be used as evidence that Sony has changed it to 2006.  Dionyseus 06:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it can, because sony used to state Spring 2006, but now they are saying just 2006. When you combine that with sony announcing that no bluray players will be avaliable untill the summer, it all adds up to them dropping their spring target. 
Either way, right now the latest word from sony is a generic 2006, all sources from before they made that annoucement are no longer the most up to date info, and therefore the "2006" is what should be posted. Seraphim 06:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed, better to use broader terms than to risk giving false info. --Wulf 03:28, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameshout as a reliable source for May Release date?