Talk:The Art Institutes

message: as per naming conventions, The should not be part of the titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.124.50 (talk) 12:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: Should the New England Institute of Art have it's location changed to Brookline, MA? That's where it is located. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.40.24 (talk) 11:29, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New England Institute of Art

message: I'm removing an item about the two photographers.  They are not the only two women.  Per the Pulitzer Prize Feature Photography Page, I count no less than five female Pulitzer prize winning female pjs, not to mention those who may have won the award as part of a collabritive effort at a newspaper.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.227.113.225 (talk) 02:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Really?

message: It was suggested that this article be merged with The Art Institutes International- Kansas City, but it should not be.  The Kansas City location is a disticnt and separate branch of The Art Institutes system of schools.  Each Art Institutes school is separately accredited on its own.  If you merged this, you would have to merge literally all forty Art Institutes school pages and a lot of valuable information would be lost..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DM7 (talk • contribs) 13:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the page should not be merged.  Each Art Institute is not only it's own seperately accredited school, but has it's own unique program and specialties.  No two Art Institutes are alike.   Students choose AICA-OC from art schools accross the globe, and it's reputation in hiring circles is second only to that of AI- Ft Lauderdale (for now).  If you're going to merge this article you might as well merge all Universities under one article, or all Ivy League colleges under one article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.80.150 (talk) 05:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad the previous contributor is not teaching puncuation.  (....and I have a sneaking suspicion he's not unrelated to the Ai.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.185.10 (talk) 21:53, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there may still be some confusion over the Kansas City location.  While the Art Institutes do have a school located in the Kansas City area (Lenexa, Kansas technically), there's also a free-standing, independent art college in Kansas City, Missouri called the Kansas City Art Institute (KCAI) which has been around much longer and is a fully-accredited college focused on a variety of different visual arts.  I went ahead and added some information at the top to help differentiate between the two even more. 67.65.35.110 (talk) 18:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged?

message: THe Art Institute of Colorado (Denver) is missing from this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.109.66 (talk) 19:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  AI colorado 

message: This is one sad article.  There is nothing about the programs taught or the problems going on.
* They have students that have gone on to very impressive careers
* The culinary program is very good (enough that they try to seperate themselves from the AI name)
* They are laying off large amounts of instructors every 12 weeks but spending millions at each location on renovations
* They are trying to get around the Gainful Employment act by changing the programs everr 5 years.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.30.187 (talk) 17:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this page neutered? 

message: Greetings, anyone who may have this page watchlisted. I have been working on behalf of Education Management Corporation (EDMC) for the last few months to research and improve articles related to their organization. (For anyone who is unaware, EDMC is The Art Institutes' parent company.) I've just completed a substantial revision to this article—which even a quick glance will reveal that it needs—along with a secondary list article to account for the list currently included in this page, both presented here for others to review and discuss. 
===The Art Institutes===
My revised draft for this article is in my user space here:
*User:WWB_Too/The_Art_Institutes
To help other editors understand my goals in rewriting it, I'll discuss the current version of the article and what's new here:
*As it stands now, this article is little more than a list of individual Art Institutes locations and, while I do think there is a place on Wikipedia for this list, the main article should provide an overview of the Ai (as they abbreviate it) school system, which it currently does not do. In rewriting this article I have introduced two new sections: History and Schools and programs. These sections cover the establishment and growth of The Art Institutes as well as current programs and degrees, some recent problems and several notable alumni. 
*In the History section, I've addressed EDMC's involvement in a current Department of Justice lawsuit; up until very recently this article had contained a section on this lawsuit, but it was removed by an IP editor who felt that EDMC's lawsuit was unrelated to The Art Institutes. As a matter of fact, the lawsuit is related to The Art Institutes, as some of the allegations involve recruiting violations at Art Institute schools (Update: This material was restored following my first post here, however my treatment of the subject is the better, I am sure). While a lengthy discussion of the lawsuit is not necessary, and I'm working on adding more detail about it to the main EDMC article, my draft does add back in some of the earlier language, with minor revisions to reflect the current state of the lawsuit.
Other minor changes include:
*Replacing the company infobox with a more appropriate university infobox.
*Replacing the word "chain" with "system", which I think is a more appropriate way to describe a for-profit university.
*Removing the statement about EDMC's size from the introduction, as not a relevant detail for this article.
*Adding in a reference section, as the article currently lacks one.
===List of The Art Institutes locations===
To account for the current list section in the article, I'd like to suggest the creation of a List of The Art Institutes locations list article. The draft version of this article is in my user space here:
*User:WWB Too/List of The Art Institutes locations
A few notes on this draft:
*I have removed the Art Institutes Online from the list, because it's not properly a location, but actually a subdivision of the Pittsburgh school. Instead of including this on the bulleted list, I have mentioned the online school in the introduction. 
*You will see that in the current article there is a tag at the top of the list section noting that it is incomplete. I have added in the missing schools. It looks to me like the original list was only made up of The Art Institutes that had their own article on Wikipedia. You'll see that a number of the schools I've added are red links. Also, The Art Institute - Sunnyvale is actually called The Art Institutes - Silicon Valley so I have made this change in the updated list.
Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to review this request. With my COI I will only be editing drafts in my user space and not the live articles, so I am looking for an editor to review what I have prepared and help implement these changes when consensus has been reached. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll respond here as soon as I can! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isn't this against the rules?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.30.187 (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the above comment from an unregistered IP editor out from the middle of my post to the end here. To be very clear: my participation on this Talk page and avoidance of direct edits follows the WP:COI guideline and especially the advice of WP:PSCOI. Also, I've seen your note above my own, and I hope you'll look to see that I'm actually seeking to add info about the issues you asked about previously. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 23:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is now . Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 19:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposing an expansion and update of this article 

message: To account for the current list section in the article, I'd like to suggest the creation of a List of The Art Institutes locations list article. The draft version of this article is in my user space here:
*User:WWB Too/List of The Art Institutes locations
A few notes on this draft:
*I have removed the Art Institutes Online from the list, because it's not properly a location, but actually a subdivision of the Pittsburgh school. Instead of including this on the bulleted list, I have mentioned the online school in the introduction. 
*You will see that in the current article there is a tag at the top of the list section noting that it is incomplete. I have added in the missing schools. It looks to me like the original list was only made up of The Art Institutes that had their own article on Wikipedia. You'll see that a number of the schools I've added are red links. Also, The Art Institute - Sunnyvale is actually called The Art Institutes - Silicon Valley so I have made this change in the updated list.
Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to review this request. With my COI I will only be editing drafts in my user space and not the live articles, so I am looking for an editor to review what I have prepared and help implement these changes when consensus has been reached. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll respond here as soon as I can! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isn't this against the rules?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.30.187 (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the above comment from an unregistered IP editor out from the middle of my post to the end here. To be very clear: my participation on this Talk page and avoidance of direct edits follows the WP:COI guideline and especially the advice of WP:PSCOI. Also, I've seen your note above my own, and I hope you'll look to see that I'm actually seeking to add info about the issues you asked about previously. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 23:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is now . Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 19:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: List of The Art Institutes locations

message: She keeps removing sections with legal information.  I undid the edit but suddenly it is gone again.  Nice to see EDMC can regulate what shows up on the wiki entry here.
::Hi, thanks for your comment on my talk page. I added the information on the Art Institutes page in the first place. Then, an editor associated with EDMC pointed out that the edits pertained to EDMC, not The Art Institutes. I agreed, so I removed my own edit, and moved any new information over to the EDMC page, where it belongs. Nobody is "dictating" anything. In fact, this is working exactly how Wikipedia is supposed to work. The user who is affiliated with EDMC is following Wikipedia protocol when suggesting edits instead of making them himself. Happy to discuss this further, but I suggest you read the Five Pillars of Wikipedia, as well as WP:COI, and WP:Good Faith before making additional edits to any page. Athene cunicularia (talk) 20:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  So what is Athene cunicularia's agenda? 

message: After looking through most of the bluelinks on List of The Art Institutes locations, I see that very few have independent references establishing notability of that particular location. A proposal to merge locations into the main article was discussed here in 2011, and opposed by several editors, mostly IPs. I think this proposal should be revisited, given that most locations do not meet the notability criteria set in WP:NSCHOOL, WP:CHAIN and WP:BRANCH, or the general notability guideline, and as such, should be merged, redirected, or deleted as non-notable.Dialectric (talk) 18:54, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Champaign Supernova (talk) 22:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the current approach of a separate list article with the locations is best due to the number of them. The list would overwhelm the main article if included. Bahooka (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  List of The Art Institutes locations is a reasonable merge/redirect target. My main point is that each school does not have the notability for a seperate page.Dialectric (talk) 01:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

text: I see your point about formerly independent colleges. For now I will focus on merging the articles for those branches that did not have a history as another college.Dialectric (talk) 18:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging various locations revisited 

message: unjustified as a separate article  DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the merge proposal. Champaign Supernova (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[List of The Art Institutes locations]]