Talk:Holocaust Memorial Day (UK)

message: should be moved to UK Holocaust Memorial Day. dab 22:53, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: I know January 27 is the anniversary of the Auschwitz liberation, but I wonder if the date of commemoration wasn't influenced by Yom HaShoah being observed on the 27th of Nisan, the first month of the Hebrew civil calendar.  Or, possibly, was the influence in the other direction? Does anyone know anything else about this?--Pharos 02:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I've had the same thought. In some calendars, Nisan is considered to be the first month of the Hebrew year. However, Nisan and January will never coincide: Nisan is a spring month. The Yom HaShoah article says that 15 Nisan was originally suggested (anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, 19 April 1943), but that is the date of Passover. The article says that the commemoration was moved back to the 27th because it falls eight days before 5 Iyyar, or Yom Ha'atzma'ut. However, I think that this explanation could do with a little filling out. Gareth Hughes 09:01, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Date

message: "Many people believe that as a mark of respect the Muslim Council should have kept their comments to themselves"
How bias is this statement!? Where is the source to show that many people think this?
Personally I agree with the idea of it being called Genocide day. The Holocaust often refers to the specific Nazi holocaust of the Jews. The day should recognise all genocides, it is disrespectful not to. Anyone who dies from the result of genocide has an equal right to be recognised, and we have a responsibility to value human life equally. Simon Kantorowicz, Bristol
::This section is completely inappropriate and unacceptable.  As a son of a Jewish mother who escaped Austria in 1943 I deplore such statements, and agree with the institution of a "Genocide Memorial Day" to remember the Shoah, Armenian and Rwandan genocides, et al.  Please can someone edit this entry?
This paragraph has been vandalized. I am reverting it. Zargulon 11:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim boycott 

message: I liked your edits Veej but I thought the page shouldn't be dominated by that interview transcript which is available by clicking the link. Please feel free to continue to edit. Thanks for the sources. Zargulon 15:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veejs edits 

message: Hey, I heard it's called International Holocaust Memorial Day, how come it's only commemorated in UK? I'm from Sweden, and we here also remember the day and have various events and commemorations. --Shandristhe azylean 22:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Internation

message: What is the significance of the seemingly random dates following the names of cities in the UK here. I can't quite understand why Manchester has a number like 2452. Are these supposed to be years or are they relating to something else? Whatever they are, I think their purpose could be clearer. P toolan 00:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commemoration of the Holocaust (Dates?) 

message: An IP editor has inserted (and reverted) the following claim:
 They are not against remembering the Holocaust per se, their view is simply that it is unfair to remember one particular genocide, whilst ignoring the many others that have occured thoughout history.
Could this be sourced please before re-instertion? Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 04:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:   No no, please read thier original press relese:  http://web.archive.org/web/20010309212038/http://www.mcb.org.uk/news260101.html  it make it clear they objected to 2 things, the exclusion of Palestine, and the inclusion of the Armenian genocide and gay Holocaust victims.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by OktoberSunset (talk • contribs) 20:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim council again 

message: Is the memorial day just for Jews or can other groups like the Gypsys, gays, lesbians, Freemasons, disabeled and communists join in? I only know of a Jewish and homasexual eliment to the memoial day. I think this should be clarified in the text. --Longend. 02:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's completely clear from the first sentence of the article. Zargulon 10:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: In Britain we remember all those that died through the systematic murders the Nazis committed during WWII. Alexsanderson83 19:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It wasn't 'mainly jews' look at the Victims of hte Holocaust page, it was mostly Slavic people killed, thos Jews were the single biggest group, they were not the majority.  opps forgot to sign OktoberSunset (talk) 20:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarifacation!

message: I am going to create a page Ownership of the Holocaust as some are claiming it to be a Jewish tragedy alone, and others claming it to be the systematic killing of those the Nazis deemed their enemies. Alexsanderson83 19:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: @Alexsanderson83 That seems to have been ineffective. I am not sure what we do about this. This is not even a page about the Holocaust in general, it's about a specific memorial event that does include the other victims, see my comment below. I just noticed how old this comment is, I am not sure if you'll still be watching. Irtapil (talk) 01:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Re reading it there is a little "and others" near the start, I don't know who else needs adding or where? The main Holocaust page is more of an issue, it fairly actively excludes other groups. Irtapil (talk) 01:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Ownership Issues

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The event's own website prominently includes other victims of the Nazis, including [ https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/gay-people/ gay people], [ https://www.hmd.org.uk/news/persecution-roma-varied-across-east-and-south-east-europe/ Roma], and [ https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/disabled-people/ disabled people]. 
My own bias is that I'm a disabled Queer. I am not very knowledgeable about the Roma situation but their frequent erasure and continued persecution worries me. 
We definitely should NOT minimise the genocide against the Jews (e.g. the annon above saying the Nazis killed more Christians), but currently this article almost completely erases every other victim (I'm almost surprised that it doesn't skip straight from point 4 to point 6 when it gets to the Holocaust Memorial Day (UK)#Statement of Commitment for Holocaust Memorial Day in the UK near the end). Irtapil (talk) 01:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Focus too narrow, erases many victims