Talk:Zimbabwe/Archive 1

message: Tempted to remove http://www.zimbabwe.8m.com/ on grounds that it is a very poor and neglected links site, not worthy of inclusion here. Would anyone oppose this action? --Mount Pleasant 14:07, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zim Links 

message: I am no expert, but this article seems much to soft on the current government. Does NPOV mean toothless? [[Paul, in Saudi 14:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this NPOV?

message: My knowledge of Shona is pretty limited, but Ilizwe means land, so I'm guessing the old anthem name (Kalibusiswe Ilizwe leZimbabwe) was the correct one, and the anonymous change to Simudzai Mureza WeZimbabwe was vandalism. If you believe the change to be valid, please discuss on the Talk page first. Greenman 08:43, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Anthem

message: Is it just me or is the Politics section rather small, for what is such a controversial subject, rarely out of the news in the western world?
Also, anyone know which British Minister it is that he keeps shaking hands with? Bastion 07:43, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics

message: The top section mentions a border with Namibia, but the Geography section does not mention a border with Namibia.  On most maps it looks like there is a Zimbabwe-Namibia-Zambia-Botswana quadripoint in the Zambezi, but, detailed maps of the area show a near miss.  In fact, I noticed on one that there is a road that directly links Botswana and Zambia without touching either Namibia or Zimbabwe.  I shall fix the top section accordingly. --Canuckguy 02:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Borders

message: The article begins talking of 'Rhodesia', then goes to 'Northern and Southern Rhodesia' without explaining how Southern Rhodesia came about or that Northern Rhodesia is Zambia.
"In 1889, Cecil Rhodes obtained from the British government a charter for his BRITISH SOUTH AFRICA COMPANY permitting him to set up a colony in Southern Africa. Rhodes obtained a treaty from illiterate Matabele King LOBENGULA (1888), who virtually signed the sovereignty over Mashonaland over to Rhodes. Rhodes had FORT SALISBURY established (1890) and took steps to take control of the country. Salisbury became the administrative center of the BSAC territory of Mashonaland, and, after 1901, of the merged territories of Mashonaland and Matabeleland. In 1911 the territory was transformed into the SOUTHERN RHODESIA PROTECTORATE, still under the control of the BSAC." (http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/southafrica/bsaprot.html)
"   In 1889 the British South Africa Company ... obtained a charter to promote commerce and colonization in the region. Leander Starr Jameson , an associate of Rhodes, led a column of South African and British pioneers deep into the interior, where they founded (1890) Fort Salisbury. Fighting in 1893 resulted in the defeat of the Ndebele and the takeover of their territory by Rhodes's company. Both the Ndebele and the Shona staged unsuccessful revolts against the British in 1896-97. The settlers pressed the company for political rights, and in 1914 the British government renewed the company's charter on the condition that self-government be granted to the settlers by 1924.
In late 1922, settlers voted in a referendum to reject proposals for incorporation into the Union of South Africa, electing instead to make Rhodesia a self-governing colony under the British Crown—a status that became effective on Sept. 12, 1923."   (http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Zimbabwe_History.asp)
There is more detail on the Rhodesia (disambiguation) page
Makewa 03:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Rhodesia