Talk:Savers

message: Savers Inc has been in business since 1954 as stated correctly in the article. This company has since, opened over 200 stores primarily throughout the continental U.S., although has recently expanded to a number of Australian stores, too. Factually, this article is severely lacking, however, ethically, Savers has many secrets which are not always made public.
Savers Inc, in the Saint Cloud, Minnesota location alone profited over $800,000 in 2008 with nearly 1.7 million in sales, and over $900,000 profit in 2007. Savers does, indeed provide very competitive benefits and payrates for their employees, however, recently the stores in the upper mid-west district have gone through an extensive management turn. During this period, a number of store managers and operations managers, plus their subordinates have all recently been losing their employment for a number of odd reasons. Nevertheless, Savers Inc is overall a very profitable company, and can far more than afford the compensation which it provides for the team members.
Much more information is available, especially to those still working for this company. It should be noted, however, that the information I have provided is public information, it is simply not information that Savers Inc would like too many people too know- it goes against their 'Community donation' image. Savers profits incredibly, just as any other department store does. August 17th, 2009
This page is little more than an advertisement for the stores. Does anyone want to take a wild stab at cleaning it up and making it a little more objective?CloutierFan02 (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Value Village near me is popular and gives every indication it is a non-profit.  From what I can see, the local non-profit does not collect the materials and sell them to Value Village. The donation point is part of the store and it is the only donation point for Value Village in this area.  Everyone I have asked thinks it is non-profit like the other thrift stores. Savers is apparently very much aware that as it will only whisper that it is a for-profit business. Many Canadians would not participate if they knew it was not a non-profit. There are plenty of thrifts in town to donate one's stuff to. Also, they have used the pandemic as an excuse to significantly raise their prices, just like the current windfall profits to oil companies. Their expenses or what they pay out did not go up. Other thrifts just clean out the booths regularly and have a reasonably way to return something that does not work when you get it home. Also, they have removed permanently all try-on booths and their return policies, limited as they are, are nearly impossible to meet. So, they do some good. But, it is not entirely unsoiled. Mooseremote (talk) 19:11, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

text: I see that and sure wish someone more capable than me might be interested in making it more neutral.  I do still stand by everything I stated almost 14 years ago.  Haven't worked for them for 12 years.  Some asshat had made a joke page of Savers stating they throw everything in the trash, etc.  That sure wasn't the practice of a good Wikipedian nor the function of a wiki page either.  I was purely offended and young, took it personally, so yeah maybe my writings were a bit pro company.  However, I still find Bill Ellison incredibly inspiring and one of the most ahead-of-his-time businessman and feel the intent was there to do something good from day one of him partnering with charities to buy merchandise from them and sell used merchandise rather than throw everything in the trash.  Also wanted to note that I had absolutely incredible training in how to run a thrift business while working for V.V. and was treated amazing.  Every year every single person in our stores was given a Christmas bonus, we had a $2,000 catered lunch, and they sent every manager and supervisor on a 3-day all expenses paid retreat where we were trained on skills like behavioral based interviewing and given rewards for our store metrics and things like highest retention.  It was the first time I got to fly on a plane in my adult life.  I went to some really cool places, like Nashville (my personal favorite) and Edmonton to the World's Largest Mall (at the time).  I later worked at 2 other ACTUAL non-profit thrift stores.  Both were run by people with zero thrift business acumen that were making 6 figures and not interested in making any changes that could make more actual profit for their charities.  It was all about image and I was kind of disgusted.  So it is what it is. 2601:601:CB80:6970:C48:3734:3D5F:81CF (talk) 11:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

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message: Savers Inc has been in business since 1954 as stated correctly in the article. This company has since, opened over 200 stores primarily throughout the continental U.S., although has recently expanted to a number of Australian stores, too. Factually, this article is severely lacking, however, ethically, Savers has many secrets which are not always made public. 
Savers Inc, in the Saint Cloud, Minnesota location alone profited over $800,000 in 2008 with nearly 1.7 million in sales, and over $900,000 profit in 2007. Savers does, indeed provide very competitive benefits and payrates for their employees, however, recently the stores in the upper mid-west district have gone through an extensive mamagement turn. During this period, a number of store managers and operations managers, plus their subordinates have all recently been losing their employment for a number of odd reasons. Nevertheless, Savers Inc is overall a very profitable company, and can far more than afford the compensation which it provides for the team members. 
Much more information is available, especially to those still working for this company. It should be noted, however, that the information I have provided is public information, it is simply not information that Savers Inc would like too many people too know- it goes against their 'Community donation' image. Savers profits increadibly, just as any other department store does.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by R.breen21 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective Views 

message: Savers/ Value Village can probably be seen as the longest running scam, as they have lied to the public, and have pretended to be what they are not, while giving very little information on their operations even thought the company has a long history. They have gone undetected in and the United States and Canada because they partner  with non profit organizations. Most of the public think they are not profit, while they have never, ever have been.
As late as February 21, 2011, they had advertising on Time.com, a very online portion to the magazine, calling themselves a "nonprofit" in their advertising line. 
Advertising Tag  
It’s a Deal: 50% Off at Savers on President’s Day
"On Monday, February 21, the non-profit secondhand store chain Savers is selling all used clothing, shoes, accessories, and bed and bath items at 50% off. " 
http://moneyland.time.com/2011/02/18/its-a-deal-50-off-at-savers-on-presidents-day/Starbwoy (talk) 22:58, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Angelfire is on the spam blacklist.  Have to find something more reputable. The Interior (Talk) 03:16, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

text: I remember the Alberta Report.  It was pretty wild.  We had the BC Report here, same people, I think. The article mentions an LA Times piece - "In 1987, the Los Angeles Times documented ...." Should try track that down. The Interior (Talk) 03:38, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Please find it if you can.
Whats interesting is that my expose, and others peoples expose was all taken down, but Value villages marketing was all left up, even though none of it is referenced.Starbwoy (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 23:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Savers / Value Village - Lies and Half Truths 

message: This page needs a lot of work, including clear mention of the ongoing lawsuit against the company filed by the Washington state attorney general in late 2017. There are plenty of sources,   and for example, that show how newsworthy this is. This is different from the Minnesota AG's suit, which is mentioned, but rather vaguely. I may try to clean up this page when I have more time; but if someone else has a better handle on it, I am all for them jumping in. Kerdooskis (talk) 17:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit/updating page