Talk:Battle of Manila Bay

message: This is indeed the Mock Battle of Manila Bay. The downfall of the Spanish Colonizers in the Philippines was in 1898 after the Mock Battle. Wherein the "winning" force will get to colonize the Philippine territory, which in this case, the Americans.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.3.194 (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know.  Was it?  Are hundreds of people killed in mock battles?  (SEWilco 23:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The mock battle was a different battle, the attack on the city of Manila in August 1898. From History of the Filipino People 8th ed. by Teodoro Agoncillo, :
[Governor-General] Jaudenes ... believed that the Spanish position was hopeless in the face of a superior enemy and in the face of the Filipino rebels. To save face, he insisted that to satisfy the Spanish code of honor, there should be a mock battle, after which the Spanish forces would surrender. He further insisted that the Filipino rebels should not be allowed to participate in the surrender of Manila, that is to say, they should not be allowed to enter the city. Dewey and Merritt accepted the terms even it meant treachery to their ally, General Aguinaldo. Dewey went so far as to promise to hold back the Filipino troops while the mock battle was being enacted. This agreement between Jaudenes, on one hand, and Dewey and Merritt, on the other, was so secret that no one else in either camp knew of its existence. Uthanc 21:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Mock Battle 

message: At the beginning of the article it clearly states that 11 Spanish ships were involved in the engagement. However, below it is written that only 8 Spanish vessels were engaged. 
Does anyone know the actual number of Spanish warships which participated in this battle? --Az81964444 (talk) 20:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: One supporting source cited in the article quotes Dewey as having said, "The Spanish line of battle was formed by the Reina Cristina (flag), Castilla, Don Juan de Austria, Don Antonio de Ulloa, Isla de Luzon, Isla de Cuba, and Marques del Duero." I count five ships there. Another source cited in the article lists nine US ships (two not engaged) and 13 Spanish ships (five not engaged and one not present). Yet another cited source says that the Spanish naval force consisted of seven unarmored ships. , not cited by the article, says that the Dewey's squadron included four cruisers (two armored), two gunboats, and one revenue cutter and that the Spanish fleet consisted of one modern cruiser half the size of Dewey's Olympia, one old wooden cruiser, and five gunboats. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Numbers 

message: Petrel embarked troops captured spanish torpedo boat Barceló and renamed it USS Barcelo (YT-105) at Cavite on may 1st.. Olecrab (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  captured vessel 

message: I just want to add some info re my two recent edits regarding this source. The key para seems to be the one which reads
which Google Translate renders into English as
Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rodríguez González source 

message: Ang nangyari SA battle of Manila bay paano binago Ang kasaysayan 49.145.0.82 (talk) 06:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tlw