Talk:Tarkhan (Punjab)/Archive 1

message: Brian, will you stop messing around with this page and sticking your big nose in where it is not concerened. Read Manu Smirti and Saka's being Kshatriya's. Also read genetic studies on Saka's making up the Punjabi population. Tarkhan's do not exist outside Punjab and are particular to Punjab, therefore they are probably the most Saka of Saka tribe's. Tarkhan's are mostly these profession's. It is a tradition to which they hold dear. You will find very few outside these profession's, if you knew anything about their history (Vishwakarma etc) or Sikh history generally you would know this. I would draw you to writings of Khuswant Singh, HA Rose and other's. Do not interfere with this post again. Thanks.
To 195.92.40.49: I am editing your changes to the page because they are a) grammatically incorrect and b) make broad unsupported statements about a group of people in an unencyclopedic manner. You cannot say "they [the Tarkhan tribe] are landowners, farmers, engineers, politicians, scientists, doctors, and soldiers" as if no Tarkhan ever engages in a different occupation. The sentence is altogether unencyclopedic and does not belong in this article. 
It is also inappropriate to say "they are said to be descendents of the Saka" without any indication of who says this. If you have a source cite it. Otherwise the best you can do is "they claim to be" - and even that is dubious. Please do not revert again without addressing these issues. --Briangotts (talk) 17:25, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second Briangotts. Bunty.Gill 17:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Hope You Will Stop Interfering Brian In a Field of Which You Have No Knowledge 

message: I am sorry for any "incivilty" but I thought you were deliberetly vandalising the Tarkhan thread in order to push a specific agenda. I am not really concerned about bans, but am concerned that the truth is not distorted about these remarkable and dynamic people who ONLY inhabit the Land of the Five rivers (Punjab).
I could care less about pushing an agenda. What I do care about is having an accurate and grammatically correct article.Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: REPLY

message: I had to do a lot of cleanup in this article.  Large chunks of text were taken directly from web pages such as http://ramgarhia.org/ and http://www.sikh-heritage.co.uk/postgurus/ramgarhia2/ram%20Jassa%20Singh.htm - these I have removed.  I have also neatened up the formatting and taken out some non-POV statements.
Speaking of which... when the tribe is described as great - as it is several times in the article - it's not clear whether this is non-POV or whether it's used to mean "large".  I didn't remove it because I wasn't sure.  If it is the former, it needs to be removed.
There is still clean up needed; mostly grammar and spelling.
... discospinster 15:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the word "great" is part of a direct quote, I did not take it out.  However, I removed the emphasis. ... discospinster 15:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I took out that information because it was copied directly from a web site.  If someone could re-write it in his or her own words, or a summary with a link to the web site, then it would be appropriate for Wikipedia. ... discospinster 16:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up 

message: Substituted at 02:11, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment