Talk:South West Main Line

message: I am proposing renaming this article to Southampton and Weymouth Main Line, and then renaming West of England Main Line to South Western Main Line. See discussion on Talk:Rail transport in Great Britain#Railway lines in the United Kingdom -- Chris j wood 11:45, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly this comment can be archived.  Note that as at 2015, London is a European transport hub so 'south-west' meaning south-west of the capital as used in much expansion has additional meaning.- Adam37 Talk 13:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible rename 

message: Is there any chance we can add some more information about line speeds etc, as a look at the Great Western Main Line page has some more details about that line and this page could benefit from similar details I believe? Currently all we have is "with large stretches cleared for 100mph running" but which stretches, any unusually slow sections compared to the rest of the line in general etc? I'm pretty sure trains don't fly through the Wimbledon to Surbiton area at 100mph for example, as my house would rattle even more if they did, more like 60-70mph maybe. Also what about the fast/slow lines, are they all cleared for the same speeds.....I'm sure I'm not the only person reading this who would be interested to know this sort of thing...surely! Jrhilton 21:27:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the upper limits are interesting for potential.  The rest is highly operational and logistical so varies based on business cases put forward year-by-year to Network Rail.  See WP:TALK now as in the light of this fact, the comment becomes polemic so needs to find a non-encyclopedia forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam37 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line Speeds 

message: Currently I have put this up for a rename as I think it deserves to possibly be a line. It is mainly served by commuter trains. I am mentioning this as the stations are on the South Western Man Line but are not mentioned here. Also part of my reasoning is the creation of the Trent Valley Line and the Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford Line articles. Simply south 23:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge with SWML? Simply south 15:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess you might as well, as there's little scope for adding non-timetable detail. (However, also see below...) -- EdJogg 22:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't quite agree, as this is simply a different service on the line and not a different line. We should create a new article on it, but it should be clearly shown as a local service. I'm not quite with the name of it: Waterloo to Woking via Weybridge service implies it is a different line, so shouldn't it be called the Waterloo to Woking stopping service? Also there should be one for the Waterloo to Basingstoke stopping service, which is just as frequent. Anywikiuser (talk) 17:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All now in place.- Adam37 Talk 13:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Waterloo via Weybridge railway service]] 

message: The Hook railway station article claims that there is a branch to the west of Hook station leading to a freight terminal.  I have been unable to find any evidence for the existence of the terminal and am therefore proposing to remove the statement from the article. Could editors with a more comprehensive local knowledge than mine check the article and let me know if the statement should remain?  Thanks Mertbiol (talk) 21:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I come from the Basingstoke area and I do often pass through Hook and I can't see anything like a rail freight terminal or branch line from the train. At the most it's a couple of sidings, but I can't even see any of these. Anywikiuser (talk) 15:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks and I have now removed the reference to the freight terminal from the article. Mertbiol (talk) 09:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hook Rail Freight Terminal 

message: Why was the route map removed? I note that the change description stated that it "needs sorting" - but I've looked on the talk page for the map and for this page, and can't see what needs sorting about it. Could someone enlighten me? --Muzer (talk) 02:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You're referring to ... I see no evidence of change to Template:South Western Main Line since then, nor any posts to its talk page for well over a year - , what aspect of the route map still needs sorting? --Redrose64 (talk) 09:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I just tried to edit it, and it turns out that adding the routemap into the infobox brings it above Wikipedia's expanded template size limit (of, I believe, 2MB), and it's probably not a good idea to have it outside the infobox because then it won't be hidden by default. Any ideas on how to resolve this, aside from cutting bits out of the map which I'm not sure I agree with? --Muzer (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's actually pretty easy to make a map hidden by default, you just add an extra parameter to the header. The heading should be something along the lines of {{BS-map|title = Bristol Area Railway Map|navbar = Bristol railway map|collapse = |map = etc etc etc. If the collapse parameter isn't in the header of the map currently, add it. Then all you need to do to make it collapse is use . -mattbuck (Talk) 20:10, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot, fixed. --Muzer (talk) 18:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route map 

message: There is now a connection between Clapham Junction and the Chatham line towards Denmark Hill, used by the London Overground service. It should be shown on the red map.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.223.221 (talk) 15:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing connection on map 

message: and , we're not getting into an edit war, are we? Mjroots (talk) 09:31, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, just me getting red mist over red letter editors changing stuff with no edit summary or anything. Sorry about that. Britmax (talk) 09:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  while I understand your desire for sourcing for SWR, SWT had precisely zero sources too. So, as we all know SWT no longer exists, how about we change it to what we know is correct? Oh, and your reversion now means there are 2 references to SWR and 1 to SWT, so good going. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:11, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: And now an IP has changed that last reference to SWT. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:26, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Warmongering

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved, consensus to move for consistency and used as names in sources so need capitalising. South Western main line moved to South West Main Line to align naming with sources & to capitalise as per rest of set.  Keith D (talk) 20:46, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 20 July 2021 

message: Inspecting claims Network Rail refers to Waterloo-Basingstoke-Southampton-Weymouth as South West Main Line (SWML) may be incorrect.  Inspecting the old document documents/StrategicBusinessPlan/RoutePlans/2008/Route 3 - South West Main Line.pdf seems to show a whole network referred to as SWML by Network Rail, and the Southampton-Weymouth sectikon shown as secondary..  A current website page seems to show the whole area refered to as "Wessex Railway" ().   refers to SWML but refers to it containing "Guildford"? Is SWML in current official use for the line defined by this article? Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This page on Network Rail's website, about the Wessex route, specifically refers to the South West Mainline (three words, not four, but clearly West not Western). --10mmsocket (talk) 21:09, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll accept that.   Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That said the etymology of the name is interesting, given the line barely touches into South West England; and the question "What is the main railway line to South West England? would likely give an answer relating to a line through Exeter.  Possibly need intro/section line the :West of England line lead section.  I've put my foot in it enough tonight anyway for the moment.Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've always believed that it's so-called because it's the south-western part of the former Network Southeast region. The main railway to the south west is the Great Western Main Line, out of Paddington. AndyLandy (talk) 13:41, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  The original line was built by the London and Southampton Railway, later the London and South Western Railway. so That is the main line, everything else is branches Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Pretty much all of the routes out of Waterloo were London & South Western Railway until 1923. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputing SWML name