Talk:Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo

message: This article is becoming very busy and disconnected.
I evaluate and treat BPPV patients daily. This article seems to focus more on rare associated symptoms instead of what is most common and most likely.
Let's stay with what is helpful and stay away from rare but possible symptoms. Let's keep this article helpful rather than confusing.
(Previously deleted comment originally posted on 05:36, 30 April 2006 by Edslee)
I am a patient and sure would like to see some plain old help on here instead of all the big words and who knows better than who on what should be on here.  Do any of you have any of these ailments or used the different ways of treating them?  Geez.........Do you even care about the patients or just what you think you know?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.244.252 (talk) 22:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Let's stay with what is helpful

message: 1) I don't think is is appropriate to delete previous discussions about this topic.
:I agree.  I've restored the only deleted comment I could find in the edit history accordingly. (Vanessaezekowitz 00:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleting discussion/comments

message: According to an ENT my husband consulted today for this very problem, the crystals can touch the hairs inside the canal and cause the symptoms to occur, in addition to that caused by the motion of the fluid.  Vanessaezekowitz 00:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is almost correct.  The "hair" you refer to (know as kinocilia) is in fact inside a small structure called a cupula.  This can be likened to plastic wrap over the end of a large pipe.  When fluid in the pipe moves it may buldge the plastic wrap causing the "hairs" inside the plastic wrap to bend which results in nerve energy being produced.  The crystals seen in BPPV can either cause the fluid to move (called canalolithasis) or actually sit on the plastic wrap itself (called cupulolithiasis).  In this case the weight of the crystals causes the plastic wrap (cupula) to bend with gravity.  This being said, only the first explanation (canalolithiasis) has been proven, the other (cupulolithiasis) is still a theory.- mab
My Dr. says that the hairs get dry and sticky when you are dehydrated and the crystals can stick to the hairs.173.213.137.230 (talk) 18:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Crystals touching hairs inside canal

message: Can this problem be caused due to viral infection?206.195.19.46 18:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My doctor believes so.  I had a bout BPPV while feverish.  It only lasted for a few hours, and had cleared up by morning. --Mdwyer 05:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Viral infection?

message: I don't think it should be in the body of the article. It is a commerical reference. I do agree that it is something that potentially can be very helpful to some patients. I suggest that it be moved to "external reference". Thoughts? -edslee
:Wikipedia is not indented as a venue for commercials, however, so long as an idea is presented fairly and in a balanced perspective, as this appears to be, there is no reason to eliminate useful information from the body of articles.  Imagine, if you eliminated references to "FORD" or "Microsoft" simply because they are companies.  The Dizzyfix is presented as a home treatment device and balanced by the presentation of other hospital based devices.  Both listed devices are treatments for BPPV and appear only in the treatment section.  I therefore think it appropriate that they appear in the body of the article.  I agree with edslee, care should be taken, but so long as commercial references are useful and fair they should be included in the body. -mab
::Just to cite Wikipedia itself: "Advertising. Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style." I guess it can stay -JFB
:::Editor CliffC took exception to it at this edit and removed it. It was replaced by an annon editor during this edit.  I think that CliffC's comment of "product promotion failing the spirit of WP:EL and the letter of WP:NOT" has merit, so I have re-removed the DizzyFix reference.  I believe it probably DOES have a place, here, but an external link does NOT belong in the article body, and the whole text should be carefully considered so as not to be WP:SPAM.  Right now, I consider it linkspam. --Mdwyer 00:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same anon IP came and reworked it in this edit.  I still suspect a WP:COI on the editor's part, but I think the current handling of this takes care of my WP:SPAM and WP:EL concerns.  Thank you, all, for your mature handling of this conflict. --Mdwyer 03:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DizzyFix Reference

message: I recently came across this article and have two suggestions for improving it:
* Redo the sections to conform better to the topics and order suggested in WP:MEDMOS #Diseases/disorders/syndromes.
* Use this freely-available and high-quality recent source to improve the content:
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I just now did a bit of the 2nd task; other volunteers would be welcome. Eubulides (talk) 21:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manual of style and Bhattacharyya et al. 2008 

message: The treatment "of choice" listed on this page has a wikipedia article of its own, and that article includes as a reference a review of studies which is lukewarm about the evidence that it works.  Is the apparent endorsement of the technique in this article justified?    SDY (talk) 21:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's one of the two treatments that have been found effective, but it's a bit much to say it's the treatment "of choice". I toned it down. Eubulides (talk) 05:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It very much *is* the initial treatment of choice. It's simple, easy, and harmless. The Cochrane article you refer to just mentions that there isn't all that well studied, with only 3 sufficiently blinded small studies none of which looked at things long term. That said, there have also been 15 studies looking at it in general, it's just that there was insufficient blinding. Almost all the trials have shown that it's useful in eliminating the vertigo. It is very much first line treatment as done by medical practitioners. The other manouver though appears as effective, though is less thoroughly studied. 128.250.130.92 (talk) 12:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enthusiasm and Eppley? 

message: Since BPPV and migraine-associated vertigo can and do often occur at the same time I would like permission to add a small paragraph stating such, along with a citation, as well as an external link to a web-based support forum for sufferers of both conditions. --Julcal (talk) 03:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The title was changed to "Migraine Link" and the spam deleted. Readers should keep expanding the association between migraine and BPPV as this is an interesting new research avenue.studio34 (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support 

message: Is this section really needed? Because I found no related topic when visiting those links there. Especially that Roy Williams link. Besides no proof that those people really have this illness, even if they do, is it that important? 117.102.99.186 (talk) 04:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Sufferer Section

message: Not sure if you can use this but I suggest a
Audio Pronunciations
section.
http://media.merriam-webster.com/soundc11/p/paroxy03.wav
Peter  Cal 01:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio Pronunciations 

message: Presumably non-benign in the title is intended to refer to the non-cancerous quality of the condition. For you medical experts who deal in this terminology every day you might wish to consider spelling this out. As you well know, the average lay person has a different definition for "benign" than the average clinician does. Likewise, you might wish to define 'paroxysmal'. I would hope that what is in this article is not intended for medical professionals because god bless us all if it is. And most people who search simply for 'positional vertigo' are going to land here wondering where the non-benign, non-paroxysmal version is written about. QuintBy (talk) 20:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-benign, non paroxysmal positional vertigo 

message: What happens to the loose otoliths? Do they dissolve eventually or do they roam the inner ear forever? SmilingBoy (talk) 15:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happens to the otoliths?