Talk:Skyline

message: I have always found Seattle's skyline to be one of the best on the west coast. Included in region?
69.70.145.236: What is special about the montreal skyline? I am curious as to why user 69.70.145.236 keeps adding montreal pictures. I used Chicago because it is the city that gave birth to the skyscraper and contains 3 of the top 20 tallest buildings in the world (only Hong Kong can equal that). Hong Kong has one of the fastest growing skylines. I used Sao Paulo to demonstrate the city's density, Cairo to show the contrast of old and new, and Sydney and Frankfurt because they are their respective continents most noteworthy skylines. I don't feel montreal has any of these assets.  
The pictures are too Western-oriented, neglecting the growing Asian skylines. I am changing it to one from each continent, to best compare trends and growth
You forgot the most beautiful skyline in the world: Hong Kong! Please post a picture.
:I linked to the picture on the Hong Kong page, although it's not exactly a skyline...but it's good enough. Adam Bishop 20:44, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article was made up entirely of original research, and what little sourcing there was did not nearly meet wikipedia's requirements for reliability and verifiability.  Just because some website publishes lists of the "best" skylines by a variety of arbitrary reasons does not mean this information needs to make it into wikipedia.  Furthermore, the list of skylines by region was indiscriminate.  This article essentially needs a complete rewrite starting from a dictionary definition, which I have stubbed it to.-Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 05:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The page ended up getting reverted, and I reverted again.  Please do not just revert to the long but unsourced, unverifiable, list-filled, and POV version of the page.  If there are specific parts of the previous version you want restored, you can do so using the page history, but please add reliable sources.  Websites of unknown provenance that compile "best-of" lists are NOT reliable sources.-Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 04:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article 

message: :Image:Bangkok_at_Night.jpg, :Image:Ortigas_full_moon.jpg and :Image:New-York-Jan2005.jpg aren't depicting skylines. These three are pictures taken from an elevated point of view, depicting buildings more from above than as a silhouette or "the artificial horizon that a city's overall structure creates". In :Image:New-York-Jan2005.jpg, not even a single building is projecting into the sky above the city! Therefore, nice as the pictures are, they don't fit into this article's scope and I will remove them from the gallery. Gestumblindi 23:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Skyline Pictures 

message: I don't think it's appropriate for a single user to decide to delete a gallery, and to cite a failed AFD in defense of it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 01:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Citing the failed AfD is very relevant. Just because an AfD failed doesn't mean that the discussion that took place there should be ignored. The consensus was there were too many pictures. The relevant views were -  "Way too many pictures", "Ridiculously large galleries can be deleted to leave a short stub article", "needs massive cleanup", "take many pictures away", "toss the gallery", "Perhaps not the huge image gallery though", "the overload of pictures", "Article needs rewrite, clean up", "needs a rewrite". Also, note that there is already a link in the article to skyline images on Commons. Ha! (talk) 01:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is also not appropriate for a single user to decide to add a gallery, Bugs. The result of the afd was pretty much "It does not need to be deleted, but it needs to be cleaned up". The gallery was the biggest problem, so I got rid of it. Don't add a gallery without a good reason. --PlasmaTwa2 01:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery deletion 

message: Its about skylines, and there is not mentioned anywhere about the ranking of Skylines .....
There should be the list of top 15 skylines from a reliable source(Emporis).
Nabil rais2008 (talk) 10:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you rank a skyline? I'm sure there are too many different ways of doing so... Does everything need to be ranked? Not all Wikipedia articles are lists. --timsdad  (talk) 12:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I've had a look at the Emporis skyline ranking and I can understand how it's all done. However, if we were to create a section of this article, or a new article called something like List of skylines, for example, we would have to explain all about the ranking system. Not that it would be all that hard, I'm just trying to stress my point that not every bit of information out there needs to be transcluded to Wikipedia. I think our best option would be to link Emporis' skyline ranking in the "External links" section of this article. Which I can see now has already been done long ago. --timsdad  (talk) 11:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I agreed with timsdad that Wikipedia should not be attempting to rank everything out there, especially something such as Skylines which is soo subjective. As an encyclopedic reference, Wikipedia can contain an article about "skylines", and make reference to other external sites which attempt things such as rating them. I do not believe including a ranking/ list in this article is helping to build its content. Feel free however to make mention of some of the great skylines if it helps explain a point. -MyFavco (talk) 03:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I was under the impression from your very first comment that you were saying we needed a list of the skylines ranked. MyFavco worded fantastically exactly what I was trying to get across. The 'External links' section is the perfect place to add a link to a reliable skyline ranking page, such as Emporis's. Maybe a paragraph on some of the world's best skylines and opinions from experts is needed. What's not needed, however, is a full-on list. --timsdad  (talk) 09:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs attention. 

message: I think the Hong Kong pic works perfectly for the article. I would like to keep it for the following reasons:
#NYC pic is outdated and grainy.  Using it only draws attention to the twin towers.
#Hong Kong pic is more symbolic of modern emerging economies.
#Hong Kong has the world's greatest number of skyscrapers.
#The Hong Kong pic gives a very clear delineation of what a skyline is.
--Louiedog (talk) 17:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The pic 

message: What is the difference between a cityscape and a skyline? I want to know. -- Extra999 (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Difference between cityscape and skyline

message: I am considering that this article should have some content regarding the "Worlds Best Skylines" by the heading of "Worlds best skylines" and the content should be as follows:
*Worlds top 3 best skylines (from reliable source like Emporis, it has already a list of best skylines)
*some content regarding the history of best skylines in past and what is expected in future (as Dubai seems to overtake hong kong (in respect of number of skyscrapers taller than 200 meters, only one skyscraper remains to be built to beat hong kong !)
Wht do you think and give more suggestions that what more we can add in this respect !
Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  We only need one picture for the article, otherwise it becomes a coatrack for every city's skyline.  We do not need any arbitrary rankings in this article anymore than physical attractiveness needs a list of the most beautiful people in the world according to some guy with a blog.--Louiedog (talk) 03:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Why three and not four, five, or a hundred?  We only need the one pic to demonstrate the concept. Wikipedia is not emporis or skyscrapercity.com.--Louiedog (talk) 19:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Three are OK. Not more than it. -- Extra999 (talk) 21:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

text: We have numbers of images of Dubai. But almost none of them are a appropriate skyline and are mostly for a single building. So first, lets upgrade the Honk Kong one and add a New York skyline. After doing of these two, we will think of Dubai. Extra999 (talk) 22:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes. I have done with Honk Kong only. --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best skylines in the world !!! 

message: Someone please, add a note on the article about dubai's skyline. My computer is not letting it add. --Extra999 (Contact me + contribs) 12:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please 

message: Can we please keep a picture of New York's skyline on this page? PLEASE!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.39.110.23 (talk • contribs) 
:Editor, please sign your posts with 4 tildas like so ~~~~~.  As to why we're using Hong Kong and not New York, the Hong Kong pic is a clearer demonstration of the subject matter. Also, New York is pretty cliche choice for the pic when so many examples that exist are more modern and exotic.  If you can make a good argument to switch to New York, we might change it, but there needs to be good reasoning.  We're definitely not going to have more than one pic in this article since that would be begging for a unending list of every city someone thinks deserves inclusion.  Every individual city article already has a skyline pic.--Louiedog (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the poorest excuse I've heard in a while. To have a skyline article without a NYC skyline picture is laughable. I agree with 184.39.110.23 (talk • contribs). Both NYC and HK should be the featured skylines, as the world's two most prominent, far and away. Also, the Colosseum belongs in the historical section. Castncoot (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York 

message: Why should the article be limited to the skylines created by a city structure? Are there not others that might not have their place in the article?
SovalValtos (talk) 01:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: A decision on whether skylines other than those of cities are to be included would help the direction and structure of the article. SovalValtos (talk) 19:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be room for at least two definitions. See  Whether it is best to keep them within one article I am not sure. Maybe Urban Skyline and Natural Skyline could make two articles?SovalValtos (talk) 22:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition 

message: It's one of the lowest-quality Wikipedia articles I can remember reading. A few specific complaints:
# The thing I came for, an explanation of what determines where a city's canonical skyline is viewed from, is absent. So is just about any other explanation of the concept, apart from a very basic but also excessively ostentatious definition.
# The article is too unencyclopedic overall. It reads like random sentences taken from a proper article about skylines. I think this could be solved mainly by expanding greatly on what's there, with attention paid to proper sourcing.
# The article consists mostly of images and galleries, and lacks text. I'm not saying they don't belong (especially in this article), but there needs to be a bunch of text alongside them. The text that is present consists almost entirely of one-sentence paragraphs, of which there are no more than two in any section.
# The section titles and organization are nonsensical. For example, the "subjective ranking" section describes objective ranking (though the decision of which objective criteria to use is subjective).
Unfortunately I'm not sure which WP:CLEANUPTAG(s) to put on this article, so if you can find one or two that suit it, please go ahead. – PointyOintment (talk · contribs) 23:31, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is terrible 

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message: This article is a big mess!!129.127.32.138 (talk) 02:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mess 

message: Some current disagreement about what lead image this article should have, with :File:Taipei_Skyline_2021.jpg being replaced with :File:City_of_London_skyline_from_London_City_Hall_-_Oct_2008_-_Aligned.jpg and now :File:SingaporeCBD2.jpg in the past 24 hours. An IP attempted to lock down the latter by adding a "Do not change without prior, established consensus and discussions on talk" comment, but I can't see that this particular image of Singapore has been used or discussed in the past. It doesn't seem the best possible image, to me, as half of the photo is the dark surface some kind of lake, at night.
Commons has a lot of great photos at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Featured_pictures_of_skylines, with :File:Skyline Frankfurt am Main 2015.jpg and :File:Pudong_Shanghai_November_2017_panorama.jpg standing out for me. What would be a good pick? --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:47, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image