Talk:Jock Campbell, Baron Campbell of Eskan

message: According to UK Peerage creations (a personal website, so might need further verification), 
*Lord Campbell of Colgrain was created a peer on 28 January 1946 "L. Colgrain of Everlands in the County of Kent – Colin Frederick Campbell (died 3 Nov 1954)"  
*Lord Campbel of Eskan was created peer 14 January 1966 "L. Campbell of Eskan of Camis Eskan in the County of Dumbarton – John Middleton Campbell (died 26 Dec 1994)"
so it seems to me that John Middleton Campbell, the Jock Cambell of Milton Keynes Development Corporation was Campbell of Eskan, not Campbell of Colgrain. So the next question is whether the bio is correct and only the peerage is wrong, or whether we have a melding of two bios.  Needs research! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately not.  The only error is in is his title.  Lord Colgrain (3rd Baron Colgrain) was his cousin.  Jock had to be Lord Eskan because his cousin had already taken the Colgrain title. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious: Article may have melded two people. 

message: Jock Campbell → Lord Campbell of Eskan — The formal title is normal for British peers. "Jock Campbell" will remain as a redirect to the moved article —John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support since I initiated the move for the reasons stated. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments:
* I'm not clear whether his correct title is "Baron Campbell of Eskan" or "Lord Campbell of Eskan", since he was a (Scottish) life peer.  Please advise. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support since I initiated the move for the reasons stated. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments:
* I'm not clear whether his correct title is "Baron Campbell of Eskan" or "Lord Campbell of Eskan", since he was a (Scottish) life peer.  Please advise. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Does anyone have any material to add on this?  So far the best I've found from a web search is that the first winner was Chinua Achebe for Arrow of God (1965).  Surely there must be more somewhere? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted the section as there is no citation that he was Chairman, he is not mentioned at the New Statesman article, and the section had no content. This is unfortunate but necessary. Hopefully this action might provoke someone into reinstating it with actual content! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jock Campbell/New Statesman Prize? 

message: I have commented out for now a large section that has no sources. However, I see from web searches that the quotation "I believe that truth, beauty and goodness have a place. Moreover, I believe that if businessmen put money, profit, greed and acquisition among the highest virtues, they cannot be surprised if, for instance, nurses, teachers and ambulance men are inclined to do the same." is from  'The Story of the original CMK', reminiscences of the people who shaped Central Milton Keynes, published by the Living Archive, Milton Keynes. I should be able to borrow a copy shortly. Another possible source are his obituaries, which means searching the 1995 papers. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large uncited section suspended temporarily