Talk:List of major Konoha teams/Archive 1

message: the title speakes for itself.Sam ov the blue sand 04:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It gives a good overview over the central characters, so why not? -- Felcis 12:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's useful enough to stay, you can get all of this info from Naruto Plot and Naruto Hurricane Cronicles plot. I just don't get it.Sam ov the blue sand 15:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I tried to get rid of this article I'm a better person now.Sam ov the blue sand 22:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  why does this article exist 

message: Just putting in a correction that Shikamaru did NOT win his secound round fight, since he chose to forfeit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.165.145.174 (talk) 06:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shikamaru- chunin exam 

message: Is this really notable. It's just an article about a group of characters who happen to be the main Genin characters of the series, under a title which they were only called by in a single episode title (for both group names, nevertheless). Perhaps a merger with Characters of Naruto or Land of Fire would be appropriate? You Can't See Me! 06:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The latter seems the more appropiate. It remains to be seen whether there exists any significance behind this group, but for the moment, I have no objections to it being merged. Sephiroth BCR 08:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability? 

message: we should add this picture for part two.
http://www.perumanga.com/vitrina_img/Omega/ninjas.jpg
:First, the sand siblings are not part of the Rookie Nine. Next, a full body shot of all of them together would be highly preferable, although it doesn't exist as of now. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add this 

message: Well two actually. One I think it would be in our best intrest to add an image of Part II versions of Shino, Ino, and Tenten as to not use the rather big Team images, AND I do NOT know how to get the characters linked properly. You type in Tenten and it sends you to the List page.
TheUltimate3 21:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why no team images? We can put the PartII team-images of all the teams on the page, but in the team-section. That would solve the problem and look well arranged besides. ~ Felcis 22:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Team Kakashi doesn't exactly have a Team image, and it would look awkward to have those two images there. TheUltimate3 22:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 3 images you mean...and only the main team misses one, because it got splitted up anyway, so there is still quite a consistency there. The main characters have their own images on their pages anyway. ~ Felcis 22:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok! Tad problem. 

message: Should a shortened version of Sai's article be merged here? JaceBX 17:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparantly not, as Sai is not a member of Team 7, thus not a member of Konoha 11. TheUltimate3 19:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sai is a member of Team 7. I just this might be a better place to put him than the ANBU section of List_of_Konoha_ninja if he gets merged. JaceBX 09:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sai? 

message: If you look around, I added a few images to a few articles to demonstrate a specific technique that character uses. However one problem I have met with was the technique for the three ninja in this article. While Fel is correct it would probably be better in the Technique list, the images could be used here directly. Thoughts? TheUltimate3 01:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those images are more appropiate in the jutsu list, where they are directly relevant and the FUR can be upheld. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 01:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably, however after the massive image deletion from that page, I would rather them stay on the character's article. I mentioned in the Fair Use rational that they demonstrate the character and the use in question. TheUltimate3 01:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That won´t happen again if we don´t overdo it. When it happened the first time, tehre were images for almost every jutsu ever shown in the series, eveon for those in the fillers. If we just add images for signature jutsus (1-2 per character) it should be fine. ~ Felcis 01:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specfic Character Technique image 

message: Because if we go by Wikipedia's standards for fictional characters then Naruto himself might not even qualify for a page. So common sense has to be applied. Although I believe some characters like Hinata, Tsunade, Kiba and Temari would qualify under WP:N. We also have to consider that a similar manga/anime like Bleach has numerous Character-Articles even for characters who aren't that important. Since Naruto is such a highly researched subject, I believe making things accessible is also vital. If I want info about Temari or Hinata, I'd rather not have to sift through a long country or group related page with numerous other characters. I would like to be able to go to their own page. Makes things easier and less jumbled. I think we should stay away from the merge orgy for the time being until there is a large consensus WP:CON on what to do. Or at least until a proper criteria is accepted. JaceBX 18:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide enough out-of-universe information for those articles to qualify under WP:N, then go ahead and add it and we'll happily recreate the article. Until then, they're better off in a list that is more accessible. As for the Bleach articles, read WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 18:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it's unlikely that any character can fully meet standards, narrowing down the number of characters with articles to those who can't feasibly be on a list is the best option. And I don't see why you'd have difficulty finding what you're looking for; Ino Yamanaka takes you to her entry here, so you there's no need to sift through a long list. ~SnapperTo 19:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the criteria for a page? 

message: The term "Konoha 11" has only been used once, to the best of my recollection. It was in fact used solely in an episode title, not even in the content of the episode. I'd suggest renaming the article "List of main characters of Naruto," or something to that effect. That way, even Sai, Asuma, and Kurenai can be merged in.
By the way, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the fact that the main characters of Naruto are merged together while Kakuzu, Hidan, Zabuza, and other characters who are only important because of their deaths get their own articles. Any way to remedy that? You Can't See Me! 00:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: /shrug I think the name Konoha 11 works, for the reason this article exist. I continue to have my doubts that Sai and Asuma will be losing there articles any time soon. Kakuzu and Hidan if I am correct were to be merged back into Akatsuki page, and Zabuza and Haku if I am correct have there own pages as there isn't (as far as I could gather from our last debate on them) a good enough place to put them without dumping most of there info.TheUltimate3 00:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: As for characters important only for their deaths, who says we're finished? This article was simply in need of more than three characters. ~SnapperTo 02:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It gives more info on the Teams than I actually know, like Team Kurenai being search specialist. Does that count as in need of more Snapper? TheUltimate3 03:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant the article needed to list more characters than just Shino, Ino, and Tenten, or else there'd be little need in having the article in the first place. ~SnapperTo 03:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Well the article as I thought it was ment to reference the main teams of Naruto, and provide info on the characters that didn't have articles.TheUltimate3 03:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not an official name. 

message: Two quick changes:
As Team Guy is included, it is incorrect to call this a group of rookies.  
A sentence was added to note that Sasuke Uchiha is not included in the 11 due to his exit from the Leaf.
Please let me know if I'm out of line with either of these edits.  Kakarrott64 06:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction Clarifications 

message: well, what is the reason, that this part even exits?
references are listed in the Sources part, and there isn't any note...
if there isn't any data goes there, that section could be deleted Drhlajos 12:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes and references part 

message: I haven't been on Naruto's wiki page for a long time, but i have a couple questions 
*Why don't Shino, Tenten, Kiba and Hinta have there own pages anymore? 
*Why don't we list some of there attacks anymore?
*What happend the arcs (Sasuke retreval arc etc.?)Ultimaterasengan 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: Why is it called this now why isn't Rookie nine anymore?Ultimaterasengan 17:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because when Tenten, Ino, and Shino lost there articles and this large debate began, I suggested we use the completely ignored Rookie Nine page for them. Days after being ignored, Artist or Snap resuggested using Rookie Nine, and then decided to rename it Konoha 11 to be more inclusive.TheUltimate3 18:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Konoha 11

message: The thought just crossed my mind and has stayed there for a few reasons. Sasuke was a member of the Rookie Nine, and as such should be mentioned in the Team 7 part, and Sai while not a member of Konoha 11 is a member of Team Yamato, which was simply Team Kakashi a.k.a. Team 7 with just Yamato as the team leader.TheUltimate3 14:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I do partly agree with you, the Konoha 11 was formed in the filler arcs, and actually acted as group. At that point, Sasuke was still with Orochimaru and Sai hadn't made an appearance. So in all technicality neither Sai or Sasuke are members of the group. Lionheart08 18:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: The article is also about Rookie Nine (that what the article was before it was renamed remember?), which Sasuke was apart of, and the individual teams (Like Team 7 which Sai is apart of. )TheUltimate3 02:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Rookie 9 are briefly mention, but this page was really made to give shortened articles to the lesser important characters. And there's the fact that Neither Sai or Sasuke are members of the group. 70.145.110.92 02:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not add Sasuke and Sai to Konoha 11