Talk:British national identity

message: To say that somebody is European (as a citizen) meaning that they are a citizen of the European Union would be a foolish pratice which unfortunately has become the norm for the Americas. If you say you are an 'American', it is widely accepted that you are a citizen of the United States of America. However, surely somebody from anywhere in the continent (such as Brazil or Canada) could call themselves Americans (in the geographical sense of the word). This leads to confusion so I hope that it does not become usual practice in the European Union. Due to this, I have changed the page to show that European Union citizen should be used to describe somebody who is a citizen of the European Union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.65.176.20 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: It would be preferable if we could expand this into a proper discussion on the nature of Britishness and its inter-relation with other identities in the UK, rather than something specific to Scotland and Scottishness. It seems rather weighted to devote an entire section to Scotland without considering the situation in the other constituent countries. --Breadandcheese (talk) 05:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment. Is this better now? By having a more general title, people can now expand to cover the other parts of the UK in subsections (eg 'England and Britishness', etc) Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 09:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Last month the BBC released full details of a poll they held following 10 years of devolution. It had alot of details, including a break down of if people felt More / less British / Scottish etc which may be more useful recent information than the current table which only goes up to 2003, also it did it on a break down of ages which was pretty interesting. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scotland and Britishness 

message: "Britishness" is an invented term just like "Europeanish" would be and is a term coined by Gordon Brown's term as prime minister of the UK. The word does not exist in any dictionary!"Britishness is not something you're born with  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.197.55 (talk) 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually appears in the Oxford English Dictionary, where the first use of the term is dated to 1857. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Or rather, the Oxford English Dictionary Online. I've now added this to the article. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I believe all terms in human languages are 'invented terms'. --Breadandcheese (talk) 11:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dictionary

message: This article should be updated in the light of the 2011 census results.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.44.252 (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it should.  As a start, I've added the BBC report on the census results - this - to the external links.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 2011 census

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message: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/guidance-on-promoting-british-values-in-schools-published Kaihsu (talk) 09:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  British values 

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The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure)  🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 04:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Britishness →  – Too informal, 'British national identity' would be a much WP:PRECISE title for this article. This would also be WP:CONSISTENT with English national identity, Scottish national identity and Canadian identity, which I find to be a bonus. Heanor (talk) 13:09, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 January 2022 

message: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20201101-the-truth-about-british-stoicism
We should talk about how British identity has evolved from “sweatiness, drunkenness, meat-eating, anger, violence, simple-mindedness and melancholia” around the time of Shakespeare to that of British Stoicism during the august, glory days of the Empire. 185.193.170.240 (talk) 14:01, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Evolution Of British Identity