Talk:Kontsert

message: ""Back In The U.S.S.R." was released as the single off this album, ending Joel's record-setting streak of 39 Billboard top-40 singles from the start of a career written by the artist who performed it."
I'm sorry, I can't understand the second part of this. Can someone please explain it to me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.34.216 (talk) 07:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was coming here to ask the same thing.  68.46.43.198 (talk) 19:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's wrong, they mean ""Back In The C.C.C.P."".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.65.126.209 (talk) 11:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rewritten the statement for clarity; hopefully the meaning hasn't gotten lost.  It now reads: "Joel's cover of The Beatles' "Back in the U.S.S.R." became the first single released by Joel that was written by someone other than himself. It ended his record-setting streak of 39 Billboard Top 40 singles, from the start of a career, written by the artist who performed it."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sme3 (talk • contribs) 04:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

message: I've moved this article from KOHUEPT to its technically-correct Cyrillic title of КОНЦЕРТ.  I'm not entirely confident that this was the right thing to do, though; Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) suggests that the correct approach would be to transliterate the Cyrillic back into the Latin alphabet, but I don't know how to do that correctly (just guessing: "Kontsert"?).  Also, since the album title itself is not actually in Russian, but rather is a Cyrillic transliteration of an English word (according to the article), transliterating it back into Latin letters seems a bit peculiar.  Suggestions from other editors would be appreciated.  --Russ Blau (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, According to our policies the titles must be written in Latin alphabet, so I moved it. Yes, Kontsert is the correct transliteration. bogdan 10:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
* If that's the correct transliteration then Support, but what about "KOHUEPT" / kohuept ? 03:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *The precedent was that, like Концерт, Снова в СССР‎ was always in English and was never recorded in Russian, whereas Это не любовь... was a Russian release. B.Wind (talk) 04:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: What a laughingstock. Just because some sources don't know what cyrillic is and won't care with its correct transliteration, we now have this aberration on what is supposed to be an accurate encyclopedia. "Kohuept" is nothing; it is not the subject of the article; it is not an English word; it is not how the subject is supposed to be read; it's not even pronounceable. How the above discussion was closed in favor of this I cannot comprehend. Húsönd 22:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Terrible, just terrible. The policy PBS points to refers to "transliteration", which this travesty is not. ProhibitOnions (T) 22:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

text: The travesty/outrage is the usage of "Kohuept" by a majority of English publications (a diagnosis I agree with).  But it's not Wikipedia's job to prescribe something different just because our editors know better. —  AjaxSmack  03:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is, check the first pillar. Húsönd 08:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous new title 

message: What a (sad) joke! I don't speak Russian, but I can tell at first sight that the letter "Ц" is not a "U" -- doesn't actually look too similar if you actually look at it for a moment. But apparently that's asking too much of Wikipedia writers (and we're talking about writers, not readers -- readers would be well served with a redirect). What a shame for a so-called "encyclopedia"! But I guess with these views I'm a commie and I should move to the Tse Tse Tse Pee ... 88.65.123.101 (talk) 21:40, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous new title, part 2 

message: So the first move (from correct, or acceptable, to wrong) was made although there was no consensus, and the second move (from wrong to at least somewhat better) was rejected because there was no consensus! Very logical! And although cyrillic characters are technically possible, they're not allowed because of some rules. And a correct transliteration is also said to be forbidden by the rules, in favor of the only actually wrong alternative. If these things are really what the WP rules say (I highly doubt it, but I can't argue with TPTB), then the rules urgently need to be fixed!
For me, it's a sad day for WP. I have defended WP against criticism and even donated to WM, but I won't do this anymore in the face of such stupidity. I'll continue to use WP as an (unreliable) source of information, but every time I'll listen to this album will remind of this joke. So long and thanks for all the f***! 88.65.123.101 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 21:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous procedure 

message: Now that album titles are italicized by default, the title of this page looks like "Kohuepm" which is even less recognizable to English-speakers than the Cyrillic title "Концерт". May I suggest that we use "italic title=no" in the infobox to at least give English-speaking users a chance to recognize the title in Russian when they see it? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Un-italicize title?

message: I removed the following sentence relating to Joel's single release of "Back in the U.S.S.R.": It ended his record-setting streak of 39 Billboard Top 40 singles, from the start of a career, written by the artist who performed it.
There were three reasons why I removed it:
#Joel did not have a streak of 39 Billboard Top 40 singles. He had a total of 33 Billboard Top 40 singles in his entire career, five of which were released after "Back in the U.S.S.R."
#He did not have a streak of having all the singles that he wrote from the start of his career hit the top 40. As can be seen at Billy Joel discography, his previous singles "Worse Comes to Worst", "Travelin' Prayer", "Goodnight Saigon", and "Baby Grand", all of which he wrote, had missed the top 40. (There are other songs listed in his singles discography that have "—" listed as their chart position; I can't be sure that they were all released in the U.S. But during the main part of Joel's career, a song could only hit the Billboard Hot 100 if it was released as a single, so we can be sure that any song from that era with a chart position lower than 40 was released as a single but missed the top 40.)
#If he had a streak of having all his top 40 singles being songs that he wrote -- which, apparently, he did -- it wasn't ended by "Back in the U.S.S.R.", because that single didn't even hit the Hot 100, much less the top 40.
So whatever the sentence was supposed to mean, it doesn't seem to have been accurate. On the other hand, I kept the following sentence in the article, because, as far as I can tell, it is accurate: Joel's cover of The Beatles' "Back in the U.S.S.R." became the first single released by Joel that was written by someone other than himself. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back in the U.S.S.R. 

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*No comment In ictu oculi (talk) 12:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey 4

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