Talk:Alan Ford (comics)

message: The article says: "The comic book ridicules aspects of American society, including capitalism and racism."
I have all the Alan Ford classics (until #86), and I can't remember any number having anything to do with racism. The single sentence from "Don't vote for Notax" is hardly sufficient for justifying the claim in the article.
By the way, the language in the "Yugoslav" translation is Croatian, not Serbo-Croatian.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.188.137.226 (talk) 16:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Racism

message: I'm from Croatia - and: it's Serbo-Croatian!
"They're not the same language, and if you think so you obviously don't now Croatian well."
With this you're obviously trying to insult people. Did you ever study Croatian language or literature?
"There are other languages which are very similar and mutualy understandable (eg. Czech and Slovakian, 
Swedish and Norwegian) but they are considered seperate languages (even by Wikipedia)"
Yes but those who separate them: they're not differentiated enough...if the'yre understandable in their semantics 
by their form, it's more like regionalism. there are only dia- or idiolects, even the "higher" languages are dialects.
--134.2.213.43 21:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Balkan issues

message: Alan Ford was published in Croatia (Vjesnik, Zagreb) where the term "Serbo-Croatian" or "Croato-Serbian" went out of official use in 1972 (coincidentally, the year the first translation was published). So Croatian, not Serbo-Croatian. --Elephantus 12:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The language was refered to as srpskohrvatski or hrvatskosrpski until 1990s. If you went to school in late 1980s, you would still learn Serbo-Croatian. As you perhaps know, aside from ultranationalists, Serbo-Croatian was still the language in 1970s. --Dejan Čabrilo 13:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't know about the rest of Yugoslavia, but in Croatian schools the name "Croato-Serbian" or "Serbo-Croatian" wasn't in use after 1972. --Elephantus 14:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Do enlighten us, and tell us what happened in 1972? --Dejan Čabrilo 15:26, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The fifth amendment to the Constitution of the Socialist Republic of Croatia changed the definition of official language. Additionally, here is a quote I dug up, it's from a men's magazine named CKM (from Serbia, I believe): Što se tiče "Alana Forda" u Srbiji, publici je pored sjajnog teksta, neverovatno smešan bio i hrvatski jezik (emphasis mine) koji je koristio prevodilac, kao i pisanje imena u originalu (Bob Rock npr.). To je išlo toliko daleko da su čitaoci bili besni što su izdanja štampana kod nas (nakon rata) prevedena na srpski. Jednostavno, duh "Alana Forda" je bio povezan sa Brixyjevim prevodima. --Elephantus 16:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Right, the language spoken in Zagreb, Zagorje, Belgrade, Nis or Pirot is different, and Brixy's translation was interesting to people outside of Serbia. However, do you mind providing us with exact text of the amandment? To the best of my knoweldge, the 1974 Constitution did not institute Croatian as a language, and I it's rather silly to say that the language was not called Serbo-Croatian in 1970s. You may think whatever you want about Serbo-Croatian, but that was the name of the language. Anyway, do provide us with the full text of that amandment. Also, give us reference to Croatian being the official language in Croatia at that time. Do also compare it to the 1974 Constitution, and prove that "Croatian" was in common usage. Until you do that, it's Serbo-Croatian.  --Dejan Čabrilo 17:55, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

text: OK, this is the text of the amendment: U Socijalističkoj Republici Hrvatskoj u javnoj je upotrebi hrvatski književni jezik - standardni oblik narodnog jezika Hrvata i Srba u Hrvatskoj, koji se naziva hrvatski ili srpski.. Among Croats, in everyday life, the language has always been called Croatian (not Croato-Serbian, Serbo-Croatian or anything like that). --Elephantus 22:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Sorry but you are lying Elephantus !  You can even see in your citation (original on Croatian) from constitution that language is called Croatian OR Serbian, more often Croatian-Serbian. You ignored that in english translation and made up that language is always called Croatian. Nothing changed in '72. I went to school in the 80's and there was no Croatian language but Croatian-Serbian. 94.253.230.26 (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

text:  That is true HolyRomanEmperor94.253.230.26 (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: ... for anyone's information existed from 1850 to 1993. I guess that all previous claims fall into water :). --HolyRomanEmperor 21:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbo-Croatian 

message: Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet.  One of the external links is a site with scanned issues of the comic....isn't that technically copyright infringement?
:No, it's technically their problem. --Vitriden 23:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Infringement? 

message: Propose that It be moved per the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics) guideline, to fall in line with all the others using (comics). Anyone have strong feelings and good reason why not? MURGH disc. 23:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move completed, thanks for the prompt admin action :) MURGH disc. 09:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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replies: text: I was set to add a rationale for the image, but when looking closely at it, I thought the quality actually was too poor to represent the article illustration, so I opted to let the above image be orphaned out, and replace the it with a more reasonable low-quality image with rationale. I haven't yet looked into the status of the other images in this article. Murghdisc. 22:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds good. Other images I uploaded have standard fair-use rationale for comic book frames. ★čabrilo★ 10:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Alan Ford.gif

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replies: text: The WP:NFCC#10c issue has been addressed. MURGH disc. 11:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: If Alan Ford was inspired by Peter O'Toole, what about Sir Oliver?
My answer: John Steed (Patrick Macnee) from the TV series "The Avengers".  
http://www.freewebs.com/earthden/John_Steed.jpg
http://www.mevproductions.co.uk/TV/Avengers2.jpg
http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/27/2771/EEKTD00Z.jpg
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.149.242 (talk) 13:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir Oliver is John Steed? 

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