Talk:Sophie Dahl

message: Article says 1979, imdb.com says 1977. Please someone fix it Pictureuploader 17:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I find it hard to believe she was born in '79. The Guardian article (likned from her page) published in 2000 say's she's 23, too. I'll change it to '77.Crisso 18:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth date

message: There's been some odd stuff about nationality in this article. Someone (anon IP) recently changed the info box to say she was Scottish - although she has quite varied ancestry I can't see anything that indicates any Scots roots. Overall it seems more appropriate to describe her nationality as British. Given the variety of ethnic or national roots to which she can lay claim, the term British seems better because it embraces the diverse ethnic mix of the UK. Also British is a formal nationality whereas "English" isn't (eg. there's no such thing as an English passport).Circusandmagicfan (talk) 08:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality

message: I can't believe this page has been marked as maybe not notable- she's very famous in the UK, I would say she's a household name, and she has receieved a lot of media attention for her books, her modelling work (especially the opium campaign) as well as aspects of her personal life such as her weight loss and relationship with Jamie Callum. 79.69.97.45 (talk) 21:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: British is a nationality, not an ethnicity - a British person could be of any ethnicity. Sophie Dahl's ethnicity would be white / caucasian or some other such descriptor.  Petecollier (talk) 09:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I have removed the ethnicity description from the info box for the time being. When someone can cite a source that gives her ethnicity then the correct description can be put in. I also believe that British, rather than English, is a better general description for her, so I have edited that in the intro.Circusandmagicfan (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: British ''ethnicity''?

message: It's peculiar that the article lauds Sophie Dahl's two "notable grandfathers," but nowhere does the author mention her very notable grandmother, the Oscar-winning actress Patricia Neal. This lack is especially egregious given that a good part of Sophie Dahl's fame is based on her appearance (she modeled for years), and she strikingly resembles her grandmother. According to Patricia Neal's autobiography, *As I Am*, there was some degree of estrangement between herself and her daughter Tessa, Sophie's mother. It would be sad, but interesting to know (with citations, please!), if estrangements still plague this family.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Younggoldchip (talk • contribs) 21:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dahl's notable grandmother 

message: To mention Dahl and all of the work she has done with magazines, designers, and campaigns, I was extremely appalled that nothing was mentioned that when she first started out modeling, she would have been considered plus size. She wasn't just curvy, the girl was pretty heavy and extremely so if you stood her next to a model like Shalom Harlow, or even Cindy Crawford. Her success as a girl who wasn't a size 0-2 was glaringly left out so I put that into the article. She was a plus size model that got magazine covers, campaigns, and editorial spreads normally reserved for models who are the norm. If you need proof, all one really needs to do is google her photos and you can see that before she was rail thin like she is now, the woman was heavyset. It just disrespects the work she has done as a model and for women of size to omit such obvious and important facts. I have inserted them where I hope they will remain.-CR  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.125.85.83 (talk) 01:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right. This article e. g. says: "Sophie Dahl is the most successful and well known plus-size model of the world." And this one, titled "How plus-size model Emme believes Sophie Dahl 'lost her uniqueness' by slimming down", desribes the development of her career and her changed figure pretty well. (Oh, and there are also subsequent articles where she admits her "slimming down" to have been painful and sick.) --SamWinchester000 (talk) 05:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Success as a plus size model in mainstream fashion 

message: I was a little confused by the subject of this article being Sophie Dahl (née Holloway) - is there any citable explanation as to how and when she come to use Dahl - given that the connection to that is through her mother Tessa Dahl, who separated (they were not married according to https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/donotmigrate/3589119/A-fairytale-life.html) from Sophie's father Julian Holloway shortly after Sophie's birth it is perhaps not so surprising but that is not explained in this article.
SlySven (talk) 04:49, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I actually agree. I would want to change the lead to something like "born as Sophie Halloway" or whatever, because  gives the connotation of a premarital name, even though technically it is a "birth name". I just think we could easily make it clearer with very little, if anything, lost in the process. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 19:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Dahl as a surname