Talk:Keith Hernandez

message: Can someone more wiki-proficient than I change that career stats box to a horizontal format, rather than the current white-void-producing vertical one? --66.185.85.70 15:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ne'ermind 66.185.85.70 18:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stats box

message: This article states:  "During his childhood, Hernandez's brother bought a book on Civil War history, which ignited Hernandez's passion for the subject. His interest in the Civil War landed Hernandez guest spots on KMOX radio when he was with the Cardinals, was featured in the New York Times when he was with the Mets, and appeared in episodes of the television series Seinfeld." Not sure why having an interest in Civil War history would lead to a guest spot on Seinfeld.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:300:7520:5422:A1B8:29D3:BC93 (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civil War History and Seinfeld? 

message: "Hernandez is known to frequent Elaine's, New York City's famed Upper East Side night spot. It is not known if this has anything to do with his appearance on Seinfeld, as the restaurant has nothing to do with the Elaine Benes character."  You've got to be kidding me.  What does one thing have to do with the other?  I'm deleting the second reference.  --Chancemichaels 17:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sloppy Writing

message: I honestly don't understand what this section substantively adds to the article. The gist of it seems to be "because Hernandez lied about coke, he was called smarmy by this sportswriter." True enough, but so what? Hernandez' use of cocaine, his denials, his admission, his involvement in the 1985 trial and his subsequent kicking of the habit are all very important to a fully fleshed-out bio of him. But this section just seems like petty tabloid stuff, not a dispassionate, NPOV account in a trusted encyclopedia. The whole affair was well-documented. It shouldn't be too tough to put together a solid couple of paragraphs that present the facts with complete context. Veronique 00:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism Section 

message: There is a terrible picture placed on this site and it does not appear in the history or the editing of this article.
*There is no picture of Hernandez on this page. Wahkeenah 00:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disgusting Picture 

message: After several disagreements with Cardinal management, Hernandez was traded to the Mets on June 15, 1983. The Cardinals received pitchers Neil Allen and Rick Ownbey in return. While this trade was possibly the best in Mets history (or, at least, before the acquisition of future Hall of Fame catcher Mike Piazza), it was a terrible one for the Cardinals, who did not win another World Series until 2006.
And that paragraph is so biased from a Mets fan's perspective that it isn't even funny. It's well-documented why the Cardinals made the trade, and they never regretted it, and weren't even really hurt by it, because they soon acquired Jack Clark to replace Hernandez, and Clark helped them win the pennant in 1985 and 1987--one more pennant than the Mets ever won with Keith Hernandez. In Whitey Herzog's autobiography, he said the team couldn't get anymore for Hernandez than they did, because everyone knew about his drug problems.
*You could alter, revise, or trash that statement. There is, in fact, a good chance it was written by a Mets fan. It has now been 21 years since the Mets won the Series. Since then, both the Cardinals and the Red Sox have won. The 1986 Mets are ancient history. Wahkeenah 17:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a great trade for the Mets, since Hernandez cleaned up his act. It was also a good trade for the Cardinals, not because of the talent gained, but because it got rid of a malcontent at a time when Whitey was trying to remake the team. Hernandez, for all his talent, was expendable and was in fact hurting the team with his drug use and bad attitude. Both sides of the story need to be reported, otherwise this looks like a Sandberg-for-DeJesus or Ryan-for-Fregosi deal. And it's not. Jsc1973 04:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, but I think the article reflects that. Also, I might be the only one to say that the Piazza deal wasn't all that great. After his first couple of campaigns with the Mets, he was relatively useless (injured, overpaid, playing first base and catcher with a defensive aptitude worthy of being laughed at by Jason Giambi). So perhaps all the POV stuff about the trade should go- any reader can glean that Mex was successful with the Mets, and all we really care about was what prompted the move. Zookman12 04:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-neutral POV on trade 

message: Should this be?  I know he played more years in St. Louis, but he has been broadly associated with the Mets for the past 25 years.  He was the Mets' first team captain after he left St. Louis on very bad circumstances and has since been referred to as a Met on Seinfeld and is now the team's main announcer.  He remains a Mets icon but has few ties to the Cardinals anymore.  Any thoughts?  Gmh224 19:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And after some thinking about it, I reverted the edit back to the Mets colors.  I have no quarrel with you whatsoever as long as you make legitimate edits, and leave my work alone.  I have no problem with people replacing my photos - Albert Pujols is my favorite active player, and someone took a photo of his better than the one I took, and replaced mine, and that's fine. It's not my article.  You know my issue, and there is no need to repeat it.    You have a point here about Hernandez, and I'll concede that point to you.  You seem to be on the up and up now, and have taken a fair amount of abuse from me, so I'll knock it off.  By the way, and not that this really matters, but even though I've taken a lot of Yankees pictures, I'm really a Mets sympathizer.  The Mets spring train in a place too far from my home.   Googie man 19:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Sounds good to me. Googie man 22:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I think most people would remember Keith Hernandez as a member of the New York Mets. He had a long run with the Cardinals, but because of the way he left, his key role in the Mets' success and his post-career affiliations, you tend to think of him as a Met. Gary Carter is a tougher case, but he was an Expo for all but two of his great seasons and was in Montreal much longer than in New York. Reggie is like Dennis Eckersley. He was a star with more than one team, but his most brilliant moments were clearly with the team on his Hall of Fame plaque. Jsc1973 19:46, 12 Nov 2007 (UTC)

text: This is not an issue anymore--Yankees10 23:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cardinal colors? 

message: Just saw this article's introduction and compared it to what it once looked like. Nice to see the selfishness that's dumbing down this article. The Ink Daddy! (talk) 11:07, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Dumbing down

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Now I know who on Wikipedia is the most selfish person who thinks he owns the entire website and in the process chases away much-needed additional contributors because of his dysfunctional behavior. It's the aptly-named Yankees10! The Ink Daddy! (talk) 19:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you fucking kidding? Because I changed a caption? Go get a grip.--Yankees10 19:14, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Revelation

message: Years after Seinfeld ended its run , Keith admitted to Ron Darling that he indeed was the second spitter . 68.129.29.79 (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second spitter