Talk:Ko Un

message: The difference between quoting using colons and quoting using my method is that the former is only meant to be used for definition lists (the indentation is just a side effect), while the latter actually creates a proper HTML blockquote element. (you can confirm this by looking at the rendered HTML of the page) The former method creates an accessibility issue. The proper way to format block quotations is either with  or by using a template that emits that markup like . (additionally, the poem tag is used to preserve linebreaks) See also an essay I've written on the subject. (I admit that saying something is "proper" is presumptuous and am open to a wording that would have conveyed the reasoning better.) We could argue all day about what is better looking, but at the end of the day that's subjective while one method is semantically incorrect, while the other is friendlier to screen readers and those that reuse Wikipedia content. (the mobile site even formats blockquotes distinctively) If you're concerned about the width of the blockquote, that can be modified using the CSS padding attribute, although I would suggest letting user agents style the text and relying on Wikipedias default stylesheet. Opencooper (talk) 10:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You bring up a good few more points in the discussion I started on your talk page, to which I have responded. A good deal more is involved than emotionally loaded words like 'subjective', 'semantically incorrect' (aka wrong), which are on a par with 'proper'. I lift from that page the concluding sentences: "Obviously your priority in lay-out is with technical aspects; mine is with comprehension. What we need to find if possible is a compromise which delivers both." Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 11:05, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I was referring specifically to semantic HTML. And sure, we can compromise by adjusting the padding so that it is visually indistinct from before. Can you clarify what you mean by "so that the text after it spreads across all screens rather than being cramped in a column"? On my 1280px screen on Google Chrome, this is how it looked before I edited it, and this is how it looked after I put the picture back in. (I also emulated a 1920px screen using Chrome's developer tools and still didn't see anything else difference such as text reflow) You can find a demonstration of the css in my sandbox, though hopefully the editing unfriendliness and the subtle differences will convince you that its better to defer to Wikipedia and the browser's own defaults than trying to make one element look like another. (it makes sense for blockquotes to have large margins because you're quoting another text) Opencooper (talk) 18:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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