Talk:MRT Line 3 (Metro Manila)

message: There is already an article called Manila Light Rail Transit System that is similar to this one but different enough -- perhaps this article should be renamed to List of Manila Metro Stations or something like that.  I'm too new to know the "official" way to do this...
-- StopTheFiling 17:54, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
:There's a difference between the MRT and the LRT. I think. Hey, what is the difference anyway? Why aren't they all just called "MRT"? :p TheCoffee 18:06, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: LRT-1 (Yellow Line - Baclaran to Monumento) and MRT-2 (Purple line - Santolan to Recto) are run by the LRTA while Metrostar/MRT-3 (Blue Line - Taft Ave. to North Ave.) is run by MRTC. Edward Sandstig 23:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, MRT-3 is run by the DOTC.  The MRTC is in charge of maintainance works.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the correction. Would you happen to have data on when the transfer portion of the BOT agreement will take effect and if the system will then be part of the LRTA? Edward Sandstig 11:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm do not have anything on that yet.  I would have to check the agreement between the DOTC and MRTC, but I can't find any records of that online.  I might have to check with the DOTC or the MRTC on that.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming this article

message: Can someone change some sections in this article, namely the GPASS section. GPASSES was phased out on 2008 when Globe's contract expired.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.205.159.192 (talk) 15:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GPASS has been phased out 

message: The current version of this article starts in the introduction with: The Metro Rail Transit (MRT-3) is Metro Manila's third rapid transit line. It forms part of the Strong Republic Transit System, which includes the Manila Light Rail Transit System. The line operates under the name Metrostar Express and is colored blue on rail maps. This part of the lead section is actually misleading because it is historically the second line in metro Manila to be operated. It is the third line in the government project SRTS, but this remains somewhat unclear at the moment. Maybe it's better to move the word third into the second phare, about SRTS to avoid this misinformation. Leodb (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing confusing or misinformation or misleading in it.  We are not ordinal numbering the train lines based on which one operated publicly first but rather which numbering the government uses.  What is now Yellow Line (Blue Line under PGMA) is exactly that - the third Mega Manila train line, no more and no less.  We stick to that - MRT-3, LRT-3, Line-3 if you want to follow the old naming scheme. --- Laibcoms (talk | Contribs) 03:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  third or second 

message: Dear Editors, kindly cite reason why it is still reverted old logo and old brand as there is no source URL or press release explicitly stating continuous usage the "Metrostar Express" name and logo. Please go to DOTC MRT3 at North depot and ask the management. Our readers are confused with these reverts you are doing despite changes in all signage in all stations and press releases. --Exec8 (talk) 03:47, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi i know you think that the "MetroRail Yellow Line" is the new logo of the train and branding but this is merely the corporate name. You might want to see the Metro Rail Transit Corporation article and see for yourself the logo that the "MetroRail Yellow Line" intended to replace. Plus do you need me to create a screenshot showing the metrostar express logo still in use in the dotcmrt3.gov.ph website? The mere use of that logo means that "Metrostar express" is still the train's branding but the management decided to show the new corporate logo more visibly instead. So the "new logo" would be best to be put into the Metro Rail Transit Corporation article rather than the Manila Metro Rail Transit System. One thing, they do not need a press release of whatsoever just because they still use in some way metrostar express because there was no change on it, the only change was the corporate logo.
P.S. I have been in and out of the depot recently and that is what they told me. Plus I ride the system everyday.PhilippineRevolution (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  No reliable source provided on the continuous usage of the old logo and old brand name in new signages, new press releases. Please explain explicitly with source URLS why the new logo and name should not be used.--Exec8 (talk) 05:10, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You have no reliable sources to prove that the MetroRail yellow line is the new branding instead of the new corporate logo.
For my part here is a sceenshot (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/13941436769_e4c68d214c_o.jpg) of the dotcmrt3.gov.ph official website that shows the usage still of the "Metrostar Express" logo which implies that the line is still dubbed as "Metrostar Express" and that "MetroRail Yellow Line" is merely a corporate logo replacing the old corporate logo of the MRTC and that they have merely made the corporate logo more visible than the branding logo.PhilippineRevolution (talk) 05:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

text: I think putting back the "Metrostar express" name is fine, but since a control struggle between the government (DOTC-MRT3) and  the private investor (MRTC) is evident in the two different websites alone http://www.dotcmrt3.gov.ph and http://www.mrt3.com, omission of the logo must still prevail. PhilippineRevolution (talk) 07:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using Metrostar Express 

message: Hi! It has come to my attention that the current name "Manila Metro Rail Transit System" alone is incomplete as even during its opening (see erap ticket of the MRTC)  the line has a Line 3, 3, or -3 on its official name, the MetroRail Yellow Line logo, and official wordings in documents to name a few. I do believe that adding "Line 3" to the article would be necessary for one is to match up with the official naming since first operation and two to better incorporate it among other lines such as Lines 1, 2, and 7. This subject will serve as a consensus if such rename would be pursued or not so to all major contibutors (Mithril Cloud, Skyharbor, Exec8, Philippinerailways/NewPhilippinerailways, Riohondo, Jeromesandilanico, etc.) plus other contributors, please feel free to cast your vote on the subject matter here so that we may reach a consensus. 
And to start the voting, my vote for the rename is an Aye or I agree to the rename.
Thanks! PhilippineRevolution (talk) 07:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to '''"Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3"''' 

message: Is it necessary to put 40 kilometers per hour since it is the current operating speed of MRT due to problems on the rail tracks from the original 60-65kph? SkyHigher (talk) 02:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  MRT runs at 40kph 

message: There are many controversies involving the MRT-3, like the maintenance providers, but they are still not present on the article. Can someone add any information related to controversies surrounding the MRT-3?--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 10:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

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message: Would it be OK to include bus transfers in the table of stations? Right now only rail transfers are listed. I started doing this in the articles Transportation in Metro Manila and Public transport in Metro Manila. City buses are still a major means of transport in the metropolis. I don't have data about how many people actually transfer from rail to bus or vice versa, but putting it out for the public to know wouldn't be bad, right? Couldn't we add this information in all light rail Line articles to be consistent? Thanks. -- 
Miles2north (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A major issue with this is that city bus (and jeepney) routes in Metro Manila are not numbered, and we don't have a clean way of mentioning routes unless we mention every single route that runs through an MRT station. That said, I am in favor of listing bus connections, but I'm counting on there being a cleaner way of doing so first. --Sky Harbor (talk) 23:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about something like this? I used the Common Station as an example, but each LRT/MRT station will have a different list of course. Looking at the list of buses plying EDSA, you can pretty much see why EDSA is such a congested road, almost all city buses go through there. What is LTFRB thinking? --Miles2north (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the format, , but if we can make it collapsible that might be better to reduce bloat. Also, consider using Sakay.ph for jeepney routes. --Sky Harbor (talk) 19:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand the Stations table to include rail/bus transfers 

message: I suppose this RM is not a zero-sum game. Your support on any choice doesn't mean you oppose the others. I suggest people here use this summary table:
Description                                                     	Proposal                                                                  	Support	Neutral	Oppose
Abbreviated, no disambiguation                                  	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	       	
# Sky Harbor (talk)
Abbreviated, with "Metro Manila" disambiguation                 	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	       	
# Sky Harbor (talk)
Abbreviated, with "Line", and with "Metro Manila" disambiguation	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	
# Sky Harbor (talk)	
Not abbreviated, no disambiguation                              	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	       	
# Sky Harbor (talk)
Not abbreviated, "Metro Manila" disambiguation                  	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Howard the Duck (talk)
# Sky Harbor (talk)	       	
"Line 3", "Manila MRT" disambiguation                           	:Manila Metro Rail Transit System Line 3 →                                	
# Sky Harbor (talk)	       	
# Howard the Duck (talk)
"Abbreviated, "Greater Manila Area" disambiguation              	:Manila Light Rail Transit System Line 1 → LRT–1 (Greater Manila Area)    	       	       	
# Howard the Duck (talk)
# Sky Harbor (talk)
Abbreviated, operator disambiguation                            	:Manila Light Rail Transit System Line 1 → LRT–1 (LRMC)                   	       	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	
# Sky Harbor (talk)
"Abbreviated, "Metro Manila/province" disambiguation            	:Manila Light Rail Transit System Line 1 → LRT–1 (Metro Manila and Cavite)	       	
# Howard the Duck (talk)	
# Sky Harbor (talk)
:This table is more complicating since it contradicts the purpose of removing a "zero-sum game" by tabulating it like this. Also just voting for a single option to which you support is IMO a better option. Korean Rail Fan 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: While RMs allows you to "vote" for as many choices as you want, this illustrates on where people stand. Voting on just one option, and there's only one option that will be followed is zero-sum. No consensus will develop, which is what we don't want. If there are several choices that people like, we can restrict our discussions on those instead of talking about hopeless cases. After all, nobody wants the status quo, well, at least no one is voting to keep the current name. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be clear, it is a zero-sum game, as there's only one option that will be used. Well, actually, two as if there's no consensus, it won't be moved. There's consensus to move, just no consensus to what. This table helps us to see where we should compromise on. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary

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message: Hi, I made a concept of the article's stations list (see the Ayala to Taft Avenue entries) where the list of transfers are collapsible and categorized by the owner/the type of the service. This is to make the list of transfers less cluttered, especially with stations that have a lot of transfers. 
I would like some feedback on the concept so far before I consider rolling it out to the main article and other articles. Thanks! Ganmatthew (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stations list with collapsible transfers