Talk:Capitalist realism

message: It would appear that this article is attempting to talk about two entirely different things that have little to do with one another, and neither to a great extent. Is there any reason why this shouldn't be split into two articles and given a disambiguation page? --Caturdayz (talk) 02:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the advertising material to the Michael Schudson article. No need for a separate disambiguition page seeing as few articles link here.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Article

message: Capitalist "propaganda" has different, and often conflicting purposes. Advertising obviously has to fit the object or service marketed, and the sort of advertising of a life-insurance company ("Save For That Better Tomorrow") is very different from that for a cruise line ("Live Like a King Today!). Techniques of advertising are so diverse that they could hardly be discussed here. Institutional advertising is very different from product-related advertising. I know well that the word propaganda is the word in use for advertising in Spanish-speaking countries.
What would "capitalist realism" be in contrast to "socialist realism"? As with socialist realism, it would include glorification of industrial production, but only by capitalists, or big construction projects by private entities (let us say a privately-funded toll road) not funded by the government, or privatization of parts of the public sector. This would probably be little different in essence from "socialist realism" except that it would have to be more subtle and less clumsy because 'capitalist' states are generally less repressive than 'Socialist' states.
Another would be the glorification of tycoons, investors, and big land-owners, or politicians friendly to capitalists. But this is nothing new, and it didn't always have a political purpose. If it begins to have elements of propaganda (as in "The Shareholder Is the Worker's Best Friend" or "Al Dunlap, a True Hero of Workers"), it would be propagandistic. So would it be if it were a poster that derided "union bosses", "tree huggers", or "liberal do-gooders"). 
People who have a choice and some intellectual discretion generally recognize propaganda of any kind as such when it is one-sided ("Big Oil creates lots of jobs and makes your life easier) or when it is demonstrably false (cartel pricing is good for you). The higher the level of formal education over an extended time that people have and the greater the recent experience of freedom, the less vulnerable people are to the cruder forms of propaganda except when it is tailored for a self-selecting clique. Pbrower2a (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contrasted to "Socialist realism"? 

message: This is a peer review section that is an assignment within the University of Arizona course "POL 150 C2"
Overall impression : Great expansion on the underdeveloped term "Capitalism Realism". The structure is interesting. A balance is needed between the origins of the term , its ideological & artistic uses and its definition. A background (sub-content section) in the terms' aspect in contemporary capitalism. In terms of the mechanics of the article, it is generally clear, however I'd suggest that a modification of the lead section is required. I'd suggest that definitions of the terms realism and capitalism realism be included in the lead section along with their uses. Grammer and spelling are fine
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Alzubair Amush Thoar  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alzubaira (talk • contribs) 00:42, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review POL 150 C2 

message: Was curious this was such a limited article, because it seems like a much larger body of work could fit into this concept.
In particular, I propose to add the example of the tv series The Wire, often understood as a work of capitalist realism. Indeed, the creator describes it as "a meditation on the death of work and the betrayal of the American working class ... it is a deliberate argument that unencumbered capitalism is not a substitute for social policy; that on its own, without a social compact, raw capitalism is destined to serve the few at the expense of the many." 
Will pursue adding this at least, and exploring others in this direction. 68.194.103.94 (talk) 10:31, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to expand with more contemporary works 

message: From the section "In art":
 Although attested earlier,[2] the phrase "capitalist realism" was first used in the title of the 1963 art exhibition in Düsseldorf...
Uh, what -- if the phrase had been attested earlier, then that art exhibition obviously wasn't the first time it was used, now was it? Am I just reading it wrong -- if so, I'd appreciate a guide on how it's meant to be read -- or is some modifier missing, like for instance "was first prominently used in the title...", or some such? -- CRConrad (talk) 09:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclearly written, or am I just not getting it?