Talk:Nobel Prize/Archive 1

message: Does anyone know if we have permission to copy/paste the biographies from www.nobel.se?
PeterLB 17:54, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Biographies copyrights

message: I am going to edit the line which says that nobel prize nomination is meaningless because anyone can nominate anyone or something to that effect.  That is not true.  According to the Nobel organizations website there are specifi rules on who may nominate. In digest it says that for each prize category the person doing the nominating must be a distinguised practiioner of the science or art the prize pertains to.  This is established by academy membership or professional practice.  Details can be found,  Nobel Prize for physics nominator qualifications or Nobel Peace Przie nominator qualifications
The information the way I put it in the article was not cut/paste.  I put it in my own words therefore no copywright issues need to be considered. 
--Hfarmer 22:38, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Haven't you seen a sign of Wikipedia at the bottom of their page? They have every right to publish text from Wikipedia as long as they do so according to the GNU Free Documentation Licence. --Eleassar777 09:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination for the Nobel Prize 

message: * "a total of 770 Nobel Prizes have been given"
Does this include, or exclude, economics? If it includes economics, then I'm changing all the "Sweden" stuff back to "Nobel". If it excludes it, then we have to say:
* "735 Nobel Prizes and 35 Bank of Sweden Prizes" have been given out.
It's one or the other, people. Don't let's get crazy about this. Uncle Ed July 6, 2005 16:30 (UTC)
: 770 includes economics. --Apoc2400 23:16, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: How many prizes?

message: I suggest that:
* About the prizes and Prize categories are merged and made the first section, before Nobel's Will.
* The history part of About the prizes is move into a new History section, placed after Nobel's Will.
* Criticism of the prize is moved to just above Other prizes.
Any objections or can I do it? --Apoc2400 09:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I have made a lot of changes now. --Apoc2400 23:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest restructuring 

message: Would it be possible or encouraged for someone to start a list for Fictional Recipients of the Nobel Prize? (This would cover recipients of the Prize in Movies, Novels, Television and Comics). Orville Eastland 23:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly not in this article. You're free to start a separate article, but it will be jumped on by a herd of new pages patrollers, so it's best to have relatively organized product before posting it. savidan(talk) (e@) 06:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fictional Nobel Prize Recipients

message: The text states "widely regarded as the supreme commendation in the world today." However, the commendation article seems to have little relevance for this prize. Would not "award" or "honor" or something similar be better? Meritus 14:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing "commendation"? 

message: Periodically, a Wikipedia article claims that someone has been nominated for a prize -- generally within the 50-year secrecy period.  I feel that such claims should either not be included or severely qualified.  At least one other editor strongly disagrees.  The instant case is R.J. Rummel, but I have placed a request for input on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Nobel and Other Secret Prize Nominations. Robert A.West (Talk) 06:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims of Nomination 

message: I want to find a list of prize winners that have declined the award. Also with any reason(s) given by them. Is there any such page in Wikipedia?
:I believe this is what you are looking for: Nobel Prize controversies. MiraLuka 20:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, reason(s) are summarized in the section "Nobel Prize controversies#Nominees and recipients who declined."--NYScholar 14:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Declining Nobel 

message: I modified the comment on Yasser Arafat. Originally it stated
:Yasser Arafat for signing a peace agreement with Israel which he proceeded to ignore.
Now it states:
:Also among the most infamous is the peace prize awarded to Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin.
Whether Yasser Arafat ignored the peace treaty or was unable to act or was forced to act due to Israels defiance of the peace treaty (after Rabin was assisinated) is hotly disputed and presenting it as a fact is not NPOV. The main controversies article is probably a better guide to a slightly more balanced assessment of Yasser Arafat and Peres relative merit to the peace prize. However it might be better to leave it as is, and let readers visit the main controveries page or the individual pages for the people in question to get a better assessement of whether there people deserved the peace prize or not. In any case, clearly presenting such a hotly disputed issue as fact is not NPOV. Nil Einne 21:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yasser Arafat 

message: Would it be worth the effort to make a list of unshared Nobel prizes? It would be rather short, at least in the sciences, since unshared prizes have become a rarity, because nowadays there are so many scientists and so many parallel research efforts, and most of the research is done by teams, not by outstanding individuals. That's why we have seen this recent inflation of Nobel Prize winners...
Science History 16:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of unshared prizes? 

message: There are examples of controversies on the page, which might be okay, but unfortunately the examples cited by  just happens by sheer coincidence to be the lack of recognition of a one Peter Proctor (which he whines about here).  Such self-promotion is obviously to be frowned upon, but other Wikipedians' input on the matter are welcome, so if consensus is reached here that it should be included then it should. — Dunc|☺ 10:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First,  you removed references to both of the controversies surrounding exactly who discovered the transistor.  Likewise,  the fact that high conductivity in Charge transfer complexes was discovered nearly two decades before that in the polyacetylene organic semiconductors.  Similarly,  these days,  the official histories clearly give John McGinness credit for the first organic solid state device.  E.g.:
"An Overview of the First Half-Century of Molecular Electronics" by Noel S. Hush, Ann. N.Y. Acad. Sci. 1006: 1–20 (2003). 
*"Also in 1974 came the <B>first experimental demonstration of an operating molecular electronic device</B> (emphasis-added) that functions along the lines of the biopolymer conduction ideas of Szent-Gyorgi. This advance was made by McGinness,(and coworkers) who examined conduction through artificial and biological melanin oligomers. They observed semiconductor properties of the organic material and demonstrated strong negative differential resistance, a hallmark of modern advances in molecular electronics.58 Like many early advances, the significance of the results obtained was not fully appreciated until decades later...(p 14)"
206.180.133.30 02:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial examples of controversies 

message: In the section on lack of a mathematics prize, we say: "Like the science Nobels, the Crafoord Prize in mathematics is awarded by the Swedish Royal Academy. It is generally considered the mathematics equivalent of the Nobel prize in the sciences." My feeling is that in mathematics the Fields Medal is considered the equivalent of the Nobel Prize. --Jordan
This  2001 press release issued by the Swedish Royal Academy about Alain Connes (who won both the Crafoord Prize [2001] and the Fields Medal [1983]) agrees that the Fields Medal is the most prestigious award in Mathematics.  See its similar phrasing: "He received the Fields Medal in 1983 (the most highly regarded mathematical prize in the world)"; cf. Wikipedia article: "The Fields Medal is widely viewed to be the top honor a mathematician can receive.[1]" Maybe the passage could add (for e.g.) the qualification: ". . .; however, the Fields Medal is generally considered the mathematics equivalent of the Nobel Prize in the sciences."  --NYScholar 14:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fields Medal can impossibly be considered the top honor mathematics award since there is an age limit on the winner. A prize excluding the majority (age 40+) of the research community can not be considered a serious equivalent of the Nobel Prize. (These days you need a lot of knowledge to do quality research, so it's not even the case that young researchers are "better" - i.e. performing research with higher quality - than old ones. Rather the contrary.) // Jens Persson (130.242.128.85 18:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that mathematicians generally felt they do their best work when young. -- Beardo 17:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mathematics prize

message: That section really doesn't belong here in such details.  Much better to have a separate article on say "International prizes" ? -- Beardo 19:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is intended to show similar awards related to the Nobel Prize, it's not a list of international prizes. Since Wikipedia has the list of prizes, medals, and awards, a separate article is completely unnecessary. —Coat of Arms (talk) 22:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other prizes 

message: Is there a political agenda behind this year's full-american awarding of the medals? Does Dubya control the swedish academy? I'm afraid the prestiege of Nobel medals will drop sharply if the selection is indeed proven biased. Considering how little hard sci education is going on in America nowadays compared to India, Japan or even China plus the seven-day sectarian scandals, these full-american awards could be seen as a cover-up. So Bush can hide America's new Sputnik problem. 195.70.48.242 09:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither literature of those (literature and peace award) are sciences. One is art and the other is politics, which are not objective and thus those are insignificant. The fact is, Nobel Committe is part of a cover-up trying to hide America's growing education quality problem by awarding all science medals this year to people in the USA. If the public woke up and made note of this scandal, USA would actually benefit. In 25 years American science and industry will depend on China and India for even the simplest things, as the Bushite posse forces kids to learn seventh day jesus horse dinosaurs and how condoms are bad. Flat Earth curriculum is not far away in USA and the Nobel Committe is soliciting help for that crime. 195.70.48.242 08:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is the evidence for this bizarre claim? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.172.17.219 (talk) 16:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  American servitude? 

message: Before commenting in Wikipedia article talk pages regarding articles like those on Nobel Prizes presented to currently living persons, which must follow WP:BLP, please scroll up to 
As directed above, please respect Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines; e.g., WP:TPG.  Thank you. --NYScholar 03:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anonymous users

message: Nobel prizes cannot be won, they are awarded by the respective institutions to recipients, called laureates. "Nobel prize winner" implies a competition where none is intended, neither by Nobel himself, nor by the awarding institutions --- and only in very few cases by the recipients. The article should be edited to reflect this, hmm?
Jussi Karlgren 17:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Nobel Prize website  refers several times to the Laureates ans Winners. I think this would be the definite reference for this type of thing; if they are going to call the Laureates winners, then I think that is what they should be callet --Oshin 13:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Winner" vs "Laureate" 

message: Wow sorry i missed this one, generally i tend to nominees waiting along time asap.
* Medal images need fair use rationale
* Prize categories should be moved down to similar prizes
* he Templeton Prize is the largest financial annual prize award given to a single person for intellectual merit, worth 795,000 pounds sterling or 1.4 million US dollars in 2006. Reference please
* Notable Laureates is just a list, try turn it into paragraphs
* Lag in the timing of Nobel Prize recognition for achievements, has three paragraphs that are too short.
* There are a lot of short/one sentence paragraphs, remove, merge or expand
* Process of nomination and selection, instead of listing try write it out
* When you quote him in the box you will need a reference
* Award ceremonies has no references, if a reference is added to each paragraph it will improve its chances on becoming an FA greatly, and a few are required for GA. Also try to incorperate history of the medals into this section as the lead should be a quick summary of the whole article.
All references are properly formatted (A first for me) Basically a few more references need to be added and the above issues dealt with. I will give you seven days and i suggest you get a peer-review in that time, goodluck M3tal H3ad 02:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Failed. M3tal H3ad 01:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ga on hold 

message: I would like to merge The Nobel Banquet to this article.  Any objections?  --Selket Talk 19:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge The Nobel Banquet 

message: What are the prerequisites to be put on the different committees and how are they chosen to be on them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slowcheetah11 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: There is currently a Request for Comments about the country data in the Nobel lists at Talk:Nobel Prize in Chemistry#RFC: Country data in Nobel lists.  Your comments would be appreciated.  The results of the RFC may affect all of the Nobel Prize articles. panda 17:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Nobel Prize in Chemistry#RFC: Country data in Nobel lists|RFC: Country data in Nobel lists]]