Talk:Urinary incontinence

message: Please see Talk:ABDL as to why I feel this content is not appropriate. brenneman(t)(c) 12:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: ABDL Content

message: * Nothing is said about management of UI e.g. with catheters or absorbent products.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.6.8.72 (talk) 12:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This page could use some changes

message: There are no sources cited in this article.  I'll begin to remove unsourced material over the next couple of days, a little at a time.brenneman {L}  12:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Article contains virtually nothing about male conditions, their causes, and treatment, which is par for the course. The article should probably be renamed Incontinence (Female) -- but on the other hand, knowing the incidental priority doctors give their male patients, there might never be an article about Incontinence (Male). 68.5.64.178 08:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free to add that information yourself.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highly Sexist Content 

message: External links on Wikipedia are supposed to be "encyclopedic in nature" and useful to a worldwide audience.  Please read the external links policy (and perhaps the specific rules for medicine-related articles) before adding more external links.  
The following kinds of links are inappropriate:
*  Online discussion groups or chat forums
*  Personal webpages and blogs
*  Multiple links to the same website
*  Fundraising events or groups
*  Websites that are recruiting for clinical trials
*  Websites that are selling things (e.g., books or memberships)
I realize that some links are helpful to certain users, but they still do not comply with Wikipedia policy, and therefore must not be included in the article.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: I ask if this is reliable because (a) the reference links now lead to a redirect with no article. (b) the Japanese Wikipedia says the exact opposite. Look at the Use in Other Countries section of the Japanese diaper article (with babelfish, if necessary). It explains the popularity of disposable diapers in the West by heavy babies and very late toilet training. Can anyone find a better (preferable existing) source for these studies? Estemi (talk) 19:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have any good sources for Wikipedia but this is something many "attachment parenting" (AP) parents get into, and they all agree that in Asian cultures toilet training happens earlier than in "the west".  It is true that in the US toilet training indeed is happening later and later.  However, I have not seen proof of a causal link from increased use of disposable diapers to later toilet training.  It is my understanding that in the US toilet training is happening later even when parents use cloth diapers.  There is also a complicating factor:  changing patterns of care giving for pre-school children.  Diaper or no diaper is a very important dividing line. --Una Smith (talk) 03:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Children Late at Toilet-training? 

message: I think the Marshall-Marchetti-Krantz section of the article was copied and pasted from this site. The section should probably be rewritten or something unless that content is freely licensed. Just pointing that out, I have no knowledge of the subject and wouldn't be able to really rewrite it myself. 98.17.59.63 (talk) 05:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copied and pasted section (Marshall-Marchetti-Krantz) 

message: both the burch and sling procedure deserve their own articles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.151.240.70 (talk) 22:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you elaborate on why? Burch is only mentioned in passing in the article, and there is some content in slings (about a page worth), but it fits quite well within the context of the article. Why do you think they should be broken up? Chaldor (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't see a reference to the artificial sphincters as well. Marcusbacus (talk) 02:33, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  burch procedure 

message: Incontinence, a disambiguation page, had accumulated the following section which I deleted from that page.  --Una Smith (talk) 22:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text from [[Incontinence]] 

message: "Twice as common in girls as in boys?" Riiiiight... somehow I think that whoever put that there is making stuff up either trying to be funny or has a fetish for that kind of thing Enferloup (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Children

message: Should someone mention how some people piss their pants laughing, and the scientific basis behind that? Thanks. 24.57.64.246 (talk) 19:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Great idea!  As it turns out, it's called giggle incontinence.  Google found lots of material about it and I built a stub article.  Cheers, CliffC (talk) 00:52, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Laughter

message: The treatment section on urinary incontinence makes no mention of Physical Therapy. Studies have shown that physical therapy is as effective as medication in the treatment of urinary incontinence. Physical therapy can also help avoid unnecessary surgeries. Patients should ask their doctors about physical therapy treatment for incontinence, and consult with a PT who specializes in the treatment of incontinence. Soapsoap (talk) 21:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a section on pelvic floor exercises that could use a citation. I added a mention of bladder retraining with an internet link.--1archie99 (talk) 22:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Physical therapy treatment for urinary incontinence 

message: There's no mention of the Artificial Urinary Sphincter treatment either. The AMS800 model from American Medical Systems started to be developed in 1972, and around 90,000 of these devices were implanted in men and women all around the world. It has a very strong success rate from the reports of users. There is also another maker of a similar model in Switzerland. Marcusbacus (talk) 19:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry, but what has that to do with urinary incontinence? --Dia^ (talk) 14:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artificial Sphincter 

message: It is hard to say who has copied from whom. If someone could look into the similarity we have with http://www.dignimed.com/incontinence-info/ that would be great Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: At a glance... our current text seems to have resulted from a somewhat convolutipedic evolution (see for example, January vs June 2007:  vs ). So I doubt it was us copying them. More likely the other way round. —MistyMorn (talk) 12:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Charming.  Not only did they rip out the references, and then fail to attribute us in violation of the Terms of Use, they also stuck their own copyright notice on it.  I've added  to the top of this page. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 16:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They do not have a very reputable looking website. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, blatant plagiarism by DigniMed. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:54, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Their catchphrase is "We will treat you with the dignity and respect you deserve!" Ironic. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:55, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright

message: The content of this section requires considerable revision to make it i=useful to the consumer or healthcare professional. I have endeavoured to make those changes but they have all been reverted. This is unfortunate. I would be happy to assist the original author of this document to make it more accurate and useful.
(Farrsa (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A couple of points as where noted on your talk page. One is that we need to write in an encyclopedic format the second is that references are required. A few useful guidelines are WP:MEDRS and WP:MEDMOS Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:51, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Consumer" ... call them patients PLEASE ;D tepi (talk) 01:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  reversion of recent edits 

message: I can't find the papers themselves, only references to them: 
In the mean time this paper talks about hypopressive exercises leading to increased surface area of levator ani in patients with urinary incontinence, who are thought to have decreased surface area of levator ani.
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tepi (talk) 01:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Tepi, an article Talk page is for discussing improvements to the article.  Can you please explain what changes you are proposing to make to the article Urinary incontinence?  Thanks...  Zad68 01:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no secondary sources on this topic just primary ones. I recommend we wait until some secondary sources become available. This is in the very early stages of study by the looks of it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:25, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hypopressive exercise]]s 

message: Maybe a useful source for editors of this page...
 p = 0.05 (talk) 19:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: more [www.icsoffice.org/Publications/ICI_2/chapters/Chap04.pdf] lesion (talk) 03:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cochrane Incontinence group 

message: This subject is (basically) being discussed elsewhere on this page, at least in terms of whether or not Enuresis and Urinary incontinence should be separate articles under the heading "Enuresis Redirect" . Merging the articles would render the enuresis page a redirect, so the discussion applies, as far as I can tell.
--173.88.113.201 (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with Enuresis article 

message: *10.1001/jama.2014.303.
:Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉  11:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

message: Hello editors,
I am a medical student at Tel Aviv University who was assigned this article as part of a wikimed elective course. There appears to be a gender-imbalance in this article (toward female UI), as well as a lack of information (causes, mechanisms, etc.) and inconsistencies in reference formatting. Will try to address some of the more critical issues. Please reach out to me with comments/questions/concerns regarding my edits.Gomer2 (talk) 17:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Project Med student editor 

message: Good additions.  One issue that you identified in the talk page was the imbalance in the article between treatment for women and men.  One way to improve this maybe to group the different treatments accordingly so as to provide a clearer idea of the treatment options for the two groups. IntothesameImage (talk) 09:01, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Project Med student Evaluation

message: Hello Wiki!
We are 2nd year pharmacy students from UCSF and are working with faculty to make edits to this Wikipedia page over the next few weeks.
Our plan for improving the article include the following:
* Elaborate on injectable treatments for urinary incontinence
* Add more information about recommended screening for men
* Add more epidemiological data for children (with citations)
* Discuss causes of urinary incontinence for men under “Causes” section
* Add "lifestyle changes" section
* Mention associations with Alzheimer's
Please let us know any comments/concerns/questions about our proposed changes! 
Cindytrac (talk) 21:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  UCSF Foundations 2 2019 Group 6C Goals 

message: :Jennie's Peer Review (Group 6b): 
# Overall Group 6C made improvements to the article. They did a good job giving a brief overview on injectable treatment. I think it would also be nice to add examples of different types of common urethral injectable bulking agents.
# Group 6C worked on 3 out of their 6 goals for improvement. There is still room to further improve the article.
# Group 6C's contribution reflects a neutral point of view. Jhum4993 (talk) 21:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ally's Peer Review (Group 6b)
# Do the group’s edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”? Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement? 
* The group did add more information about screening and injectable treatments for urinary incontinence. I like that they also added the mechanism and mentioned that there is a lack of data regarding their efficacy. I think it would be nice to expand a little bit on who may benefit from the different treatment types such as on uptodate when it mentions that men who aren't a candidate for surgery may benefit from the injectable. 
* Although not all goals were addressed (can't see any edits for children epidemiological data or alzheimers), I liked the expansion on medications that are available as well as screening for women. I think another section on screening for men could be helpful to be comprehensive. Overall good edits.
The edits made all have citations from wiki approved sources such as systematic reviews. 
Allydiiorio (talk) 21:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Gabi's Peer Review (Group 6b)
# Group 6c added information about screening for urinary incontinence, lifestyle changes that can help to manage urinary incontinence, and medications (injectable and oral) that treat urinary incontinence to the article. These edits substantially improved the information provided in the article, however I would encourage that injectable treatments are listed either under the Management or under the Medications sections to better organize the article. 
# The group achieved some of their goals. Specifically, they did not address: the epidemiological data for children, the association with Alzheimer's, and the causes of urinary incontinence. 
# All edits that group 6c are formatted consistent with Wikipedia's manual of style. Gabidriller (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Thien's Peer Review (Group 6b)
Group 6c was able to complete a majority of their goals for this article. They expanded upon screening for urinary incontinence, medications and lifestyle changes. These edits help improve the overall understanding of urinary incontinence. Something to further include the article might be expanding on the medications used and in addition to the lifestyle changes section.
Tnguyen26 (talk) 20:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 6b Peer Reviews 

message: Apart from a bare passing mention of spinal cord injury as a cause, there is basically no discussion in this article of incontinence due to neurogenic bladder. It's a major topic in disability media. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neurogenic bladder 

message: Taking into account:
# the Dec 2023 rough consensus to use the reproductive definition of sex (and not the multifactorial one) on the Sex page 
# multiple mentions of the gender imbalance present in this article
# the lack of clear signalling that the VAST majority of the sources cited in the "Behavioral therapy, physical therapy and exercise" section are supported by evidence based on studies of only female populations
I suggest splitting that section into "Male" and "Female" (similar to the CAUSES section), and citing evidence in the "men" section only if the studies included men.  
This may result in a very brief Male section, as of now, but ideally it would make it clear that more work is needed by an expert who knows about treatment for male urinary incontinence.  Terrapinaz (talk) 11:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of clarity re: treatments by different sex/gender