Talk:Geographical midpoint of Europe

message: Please delete false info about Estonian centre.
Yes, they have wanted it to open it as somekinda tourist attraction, but its calculated so wrong.
Check the globe and you see it. Someone has taken this center from who knows how wrong geographical projection, not from precise repsresentation of reality. For example i have here Europe in Mercator projection (makes landmasses near poles really large) and here centre looks like in Finland. http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/LA2-Europe-UTM-zones.png/111px-LA2-Europe-UTM-zones.png Scandinavia is so big :D!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.126.102.10 (talk) 12:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Estonian center

message: Shouldn't all centres be mentioned in the header? So far it seems that we're supporting one version, while the rest are merely claims... Halibutt 09:32, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)
 : Yes, this is very POV. As someone noted below, the METHODOLOGY supporting each claim, including French Nat Geo office's, should be clarified. 72.183.52.92 (talk) 13:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Header 

message: ::There are two articles Geographic Centre of Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_Centre_of_Europe and Geographical centre of Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre_of_Europe - both containig almost the same data - with minor differences. The second one has also the possibility of being redirected from  Geographic centre of Europe. The difference seems to me to lye in the capital or lowercase "c" in "centre". I don't know how do it but one of them should be removed - and have the infomation transferred from the other. (I've been editing both of them but couldn't synchronize them). noychoH 18:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: '''''Two similar articles'''''

message: Has someone calculated the centermost village in Europe by population? Common sense tells that it should be south of the geographical centerpoints but where exactly? Somewhere near the slovak, chech, austrian border? Well it doesn't matter...  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.153.60.138 (talk) 12:49, August 23, 2007 (UTC) 
I don't know if we mean the same: I'm interested in a "Center of mass" of a Population density-figure of Europe. I mean denser-populated areas should have more weight and empty regions have less influence. Is there a software to calculate this? ChrisR --79.21.106.156 (talk) 14:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: question - Centermost village by population

message: The coordinates for the Ukrainian "centre of Europe" given in the article (48°30′N 23°23′E) cannot be correct. I have seen these coordinates mentioned in other sources as well, but the problem is this point is nowhere near the village of Dilove. The downtown area of the village itself is at 47°56′N 24°10.5′E (which is about 85 km from the point given in the article). The "centre of Europe" is outside the village. I visited the place 15 years ago and I remember that it is right next to the highway, but I cannot remember if it is north or south of the village and how far. But many sources mention a railway bridge nearby (and I vaguely remember seeing it as well). Based on the topographic map of the area, , the bridge is about 3.5 km NNE of the village downtown and there is actually a mark on the map next to the bridge denoting some kind of "monument". Also, this article (in Ukrainian) mentions that the point is between the villages of Dilove and Kostylivka, which again is consistent with its being north of Dilove. Based on this, the Ukrainian claim to the "centre of Europe" is at 47°57.5′N 24°11′E. --132.204.68.109 12:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanx for VERY interesting, insightful remarks. I have personally never been there. The coordinates you put under a question are mentioned virtually EVERYWHERE, even in the Ukrainian article you have made a link to. And I remember having seen somewhere a photo of the original monumement on which these coordinates are also written. This of course does not prove that the coordinates are wrong bacause the actual location of the monument might not be the one that it should be placed in. (problems with displaced monuments are not so uncommon in the history of mankind). But of course this raises the whole question again and it should be examined against other sources - e.g. visiting the point (48°30′N 23°23′E) might show some light. I will make a note of this problem in the article. Regards, noychoH 09:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong coordinates 

message: Does anyone know how Saaremaa came to be calculated as the centre of Europe? I am going on a journey with my family to visit some of the different centres of Europe, including Torun, Suchowola, Saaremaa and Bernotai. We leave London next week in a Land Rover Defender. Please follow us at www.journey2.tv. All suggestions, advice, comments will be appreciated! Gozols 23:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Journey to the Centre of Europe / Saaremaa 

message: In Revision as of 08:46, 20 January 2007 User:CieloEstrellado placed an  tag atop this article. The tag was subsequently changed to  by SmackBot. However, the article has been referenced by User:Donarreiskoffer since than and therefore, I'm removing the tag due to its redundancy. --Poeticbent  talk  15:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tag 

message: The two sections added by unsigned 84.175.93.119 (talk) 13:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other calculations 

message: At the end of the Ukraine section, the article page refers to a talk page, which is a no-no according to Wikipedia rules... AnonMoos 16:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukraine section

message: :The Austrian town of Frauenkirchen, near the border to Hungary, holds a patent (Österreichisches Patentamt, Aktenzeichen AM 7738/2003) for being the geophysical centre of Europe (not of the EU).
Has anyone verified this? At the site of the Österreichisches Patentamt (http://www.patentamt.at/Publikationen/) I am unable to locate any patent with reference number 7738/2003 or 200307738.
As a European patent attorney I cannot imagine how to patent a location as such. Perhaps they meant registering the place as a geographical region of origin, like Champagne or Bavaria?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.163.164.67 (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frauenkirchen patent? 

message: state clearly methodology and then the centre, because there are many centres and all of them are correct, so please state clearly (not like this messy article) ALL used methodologies and their centres.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.147.212 (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  let's put everything clear 

message: There is a dubious statement in the article that Guiness book of records only recognizes the claim in Lithuania as the centre of Europe. Can anyone point out where this originates from? I have found a hundred Lithuanian pages repeating this claim in verbatim with no additional information, while the only English sources are copies from Wikipedia. I have also written to Guiness World Records and got an answer that they do not consider these kind of claims for records since they are not something that can be beaten. The only connection to GBR that I could find is that a statue in the park that is close to the "centre" of Europe is recognized by the book as the largest TV statue. Can anybody find a better explanation or should I remove this statement from the article?No longer a penguin (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guiness book of records 

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message: I do not understand how Brexit may shift centre of EU as UK has no extreme points of EU.--Anatoliy (Talk) 18:36, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This too has confused me (well maybe not, I just think it’s wrong). It would be like if France left the EU, how on earth would the midpoint change? Oldoratorian (talk) 18:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's very easy to explain, if you understand what is a "geometrical centre of a figure", it is the point of gravity equilibrium of that figure, which of course depends in some way on the extreme points of the figure, but also (and in a much more important way) on the shape of the figure. Let take an example, if you had a cardboard figure of the shape of the EU, if you put it on the tip of a needle placed under the centre of the EU, the figure would remain stable, flat, horizontal, without bending to any side. If some part of the figure is removed, than automatically the centre-point shifts to another place, and the figure loses its equilibrium, bends, until the needle supporting it is moved to under the new centre of gravity. Obviously there is one such point of equilibrium before Brexit and another one of it after Brexit. 
Nota Bene, the centre of gravity does not necessarily lie under a certain point of the landmass in question. E.g. the geographical centre of Norway in this sense lies somewhere in Sweden. ;-) noychoH (talk) 17:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gadheim