Talk:Red star

message: The article says:
"The five pointed star is an ancient symbol used in the mystical traditions of Middle Eastern religions (Judaism and Christianity) to represent the heretical idea that the sacred inheres in humanity[citation needed]. It was for this reason that Marx and Engels, as radical humanists, were attracted to the symbol."
I question the use of the term "heretical" idea.  I also question the use of radical humanists.  I think that as there is no citation that this could be changed to a more neutral position.
The article says:
Since the fall of the Soviet bloc, the red star has been banned in many countries of Central and Eastern Europe (e.g. in Hungary, it is a criminal offense to publicly show or use the symbol).
What are the other CEE countries where the red star symbol is illegal? --romanm (talk) 23:53, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Red Star (novel) is a 1908 Russian novel. The title is an allusion to Mars as the red planet and the socialist ideology of the Martians and the Earthling main character. --Error (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable Things

message: This article should become a disambiguation page I think. If anyone has the time to do that... Julien Tuerlinckx 19:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: In the book The Russian Civil War (1) The Red Army (), the author Mikhail Khvostov says that the Red Star began when Russian units returning from the German and Austrian fronts (in WWI, 1917) flooded into Moscow. To distinguish the local Moscow garrison from this influx of soldiers from the front the Moscow garrison troops were given tin stars (pentagrams) to wear on their hats. When the garrison revolted they painted the tin stars red (for communism/bolshevism etc) and thus it came into being.
Any good?
PJB 17:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Star Origins 

message: It seems to make sence to me to move this page and have the disambiguation of RED STAR be the first hit for red star.Tombride 23:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation Page 

message: The article claims that red star is a simbol of communism, but this is not quite true. Red star was used before the rise of the communism, one of the best examples is Californian flag with a red star; so it would be better to say that red star represents freedom or fight for freedom, instead of communism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by G-Mac (talk • contribs) 13:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Meaning of Red Star 

message: Good evening comrades! I recently was told not to edit this page and add the fact (not bias) that Macy's has recently adopted the red star as its corporate logo. I applaud Macy's corporate wigs for opening their eyes to the plight of our fellow worker and using their symbol as a welcome sign to all the socialist in Wikipedia. Now delete my contribution to this page and deny the fact, but Macy's does use the red star that means they either embrace socialism or are just plain ignorant to the fact for what it has been associated for the past 90+ years (give or take a few decades for all the "fact checkers" in our wikiality). Thank you for giving us a forum to express the truth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.170.126 (talk) 05:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My deletion of Macy's using red star 

message: I don't have the source handy, but I believe a few American military aircraft were marked with red stars as a national symbol briefly, before the other connotations came into play. A2Kafir (and...?) 16:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the source. See below "The US Army Against Pancho Villa".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 10:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor use pre-1917 

message: The ECtHR is not an EU institution but a Council of Europe institution (bigger than the EU, includes Russia). Furthermore its decisions do not strictly overrule member state's laws, the member state must still act ot bring its laws into line with ECtHR decisions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.153.225 (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ECHR and EU 

message: The text reads "In Brazil, however, the red star remained as it was".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 10:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazil? 

message: Dubious. According to "flagspot.net" the japanese aircraft in 1915 bore a red star on a white cirle.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 11:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "http://flagspot.net/flags/jp.html#roundel15"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 11:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan first air markings in 1915???? 

message: A Red Star doesn’t mean what you think it might. As many of you know I am running for the 8th District State Senate in Eastern Jackson County MO. Our campaign team tied red star shaped balloons to campaign signs as a reminder for people to get out and exercise their right and freedom to vote. As a United States Marine I proudly served my country for 2 tours in Vietnam spending 77 days in foxhole at the battle of Khe Sanh and I worked nearly 27 years as a MO State Trooper.  Public service and profound patriotism runs through my blood. Nothing other than love for our great country and democracy was symbolic of these balloons.
Gary Dusenberg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dusenberg (talk • contribs) 21:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Red Can Be Patriotic 

message: Red Star is a symbol of Yugoslav Partisans and their struggle against fascism and occupation (and in Slovenia against an attempt of annihilation of Slovene people). Partisans wore red stars as identification (on whatever uniforms or other dress they managed to get during the war). The whole country is full of monuments to the victims of fascism with red stars:
Monument 1
Monument 2
Also when Slovenia celebrates important events from WW2, banner holders of WW2 units attend, with the banners and flags:
Banners 1
Banners 2
Banners 3
It will never be banned. Žarišče (talk) 10:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symbol of anti-fascist partisans during WW2 

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message: By king -or puppet king- Joseph I of Spain, Napoleon's elder brother. "http://www.regimientosdeamerica.com/catalogo/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=229". Military and civilian reward.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.85.148.202 (talk) 19:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/Rijksmuseum/Amsterdam/encuentra/retrato/oculto/Goya/elpepucul/20110919elpepucul_5/Tes"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.85.148.202 (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Order of Spain (1808) 

message: I added a new section to add some basic information about its usage in Russia on New Year trees, which I think should be mentioned somewhere, along with an interesting picture. I'm not sure if the history of its usage as a holiday symbol has been specifically studied (perhaps it started around 1935, when the New Year holidays were allowed to be celebrated again?), but the Russian New Year tree article features a few photographs. I know it's not a very nice section as it stands, but I think this should be mentioned and I couldn't find a way to fit it into any of the existing sections. Esn (talk) 01:48, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: New Year tree usage

message: Given the prevalence of the red star as a symbol in socialist countries, there are A LOT of examples that could be considered relevant for the various subsections on this page. That having been said, it is probably not useful to have an exhaustive list of examples, especially when the symbols used are so similar to each other (such as the gallery of flags of Soviet Republics, or of Republics of Yugoslavia). I would be in favor of adopting some sort of guidelines for how many examples to include for various sections, and how to prioritize which sorts of symbols are included, particularly as WP:IG doesn't really provide any guidance for this case. What do other people think? Rosguill (talk) 22:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, how things look now, they are all there. If we choose a few, there will be endless edit-wars with people replacing ones by anothers (be it flags or coats of arms) and if reverted asking why one is more important than the other... FkpCascais (talk) 00:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm actually not quite sure they're all there. Moreover, the Yugoslav section currently contains the proposed flag of an SR that was never even used. The sections for sports teams and revolutionary movements could likely have dozens (if not hundreds!) more examples. Rosguill (talk) 20:25, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Examples 

message: Italian Brigate Garibaldi (1943-1945) partisans organization had a red star in the centre of the italian flag, defaced of any fascist or monarchic symbol. See: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigate_Garibaldi
--147.162.48.1 (talk) 09:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian Partisans Flag too 

message: This article uses the indefinite article a in the intro. Whereas Swastika uses the, and Taegeuk begins with no article. Shouldn't there be uniformity?--Adûnâi (talk) 14:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , we should follow whichever convention is used more frequently by reliable sources. Based on a glance at what's currently cited, it seems like a slim majority for "a red star". A further grammatical motivation for why this would be the case is that while swastika and taegeuk are both foreign words (or at least loan words), red star is a phrase in English and thus people may be inclined to treat it differently. signed, Rosguill talk 15:56, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A definite article before Red Star 

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