Talk:Dirty paper coding

message: I have a technical background and while I can see the sort of thing that could be meant it is not really explained. And does it cancel the interference or ameliorate it? Rich Farmbrough, 15:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it could be explained better. Is there anything from the presentation of the Simple: Dirty paper coding article that we could use to make this article better? DPS ameliorates the interference, it does not cancel it. For example, when a transmitter with one antenna transmits two independent messages to two independent receivers simultaneously, the message to each receiver is noise to the other receiver. To "cancel the interference" to one receiver would leave the other receiver without any message at all. DPC uses something a little more clever to transmit the two independent messages simultaneously, so each receiver gets its own message. --DavidCary (talk) 03:17, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Still unclear

message: Hey CombatWombat42, I very much disagree that this article is 'too technical'.  In fact it needs a technical explanation to make the page complete.  I will remove the 'too technical' banner as Jorge Stolfi suggests if I do not see a convincing response from you here.  If you really want to improve the paper, I suggest that you use this simple explanation as a start. Sanpitch (talk) 00:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey User:Sanpitch the WP:LEAD is fine, the body is incredibly technical. I'm fairly technical skilled (I understand information theory and communications theory) and I barely know what "DPC and DPC-like techniques requires knowledge of the interference state in a non causal manner, such as channel state information of all users and other user data. Hence, the design of a DPC-based system should include a procedure to feed side information to the transmitters." means. CombatWombat42 (talk) 00:37, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

text: "If you really want to improve the paper, I suggest that you use this simple explanation as a start." That is an incredibly arogant thing to say. CombatWombat42 (talk) 00:38, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:   CombatWombat42, I apologize for the implication that if you did not take my suggestion that you did not want to improve the article (I guess this is your concern).  Let me re-state my suggestion in language that is hopefully more acceptable:  If some is interested in adding technical details to the body of the article, one possibility is to use the example in this article, which I believe captures enough technical detail while remaining simple enough to be understandable. I will put this addition on my own to-do list. Sanpitch (talk) 02:58, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: It's not "Too Technical"

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