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Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles/Citing scholars

message: ==== Online Sunni resources ====
I actually found some online Sunni resources.
Tafsir:
*Tafhim al-Qur'an - written by Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi. 
*Tadabbur-i-Qur’an - written by Amin Ahsan Islahi.  (translation in progress)
Writings of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi accessible through:
*www.renaissance.com.pk - in English
*www.studying-islam.org - in English
*www.al-mawrid.org - in Urdu, Arabic, and English
*www.ghamidi.org - in Urdu
Websites being run by Al-Mawrid, Institute of Islamic research:
*www.understanding-islam.org - in English
SaadSaleem 05:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Saadsaleem, thanks very much! It will be useful for us. Just a question: Who are the famous schoalrs writing at Al-Mawrid? I mean, when we quote something from it, we should say "Scholar X says T", but we can not say "Institute X says T". And of course, if some article there is written by a student or a non-famous scholar, we can not quote it in wikipedia. If you know, would please let us know the name of famous scholars writing there? Thanks --Aminz 05:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Main author on www.understanding-islam.com is Moiz Amjad and main author on www.renaissance.com.pk is Shehzad Saleem, both of them are Associate Fellows in Al-Mawrid and are working closely with Javed Ahmed Ghamidi. --SaadSaleem 06:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some recommendations for secondary sources

message: I actually found some online Sunni resources.
Tafsir:
*Tafhim al-Qur'an - written by Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi. 
*Tadabbur-i-Qur’an - written by Amin Ahsan Islahi.  (translation in progress)
Writings of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi accessible through:
*www.renaissance.com.pk - in English
*www.studying-islam.org - in English
*www.al-mawrid.org - in Urdu, Arabic, and English
*www.ghamidi.org - in Urdu
Websites being run by Al-Mawrid, Institute of Islamic research:
*www.understanding-islam.org - in English
SaadSaleem 05:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Saadsaleem, thanks very much! It will be useful for us. Just a question: Who are the famous schoalrs writing at Al-Mawrid? I mean, when we quote something from it, we should say "Scholar X says T", but we can not say "Institute X says T". And of course, if some article there is written by a student or a non-famous scholar, we can not quote it in wikipedia. If you know, would please let us know the name of famous scholars writing there? Thanks --Aminz 05:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Main author on www.understanding-islam.com is Moiz Amjad and main author on www.renaissance.com.pk is Shehzad Saleem, both of them are Associate Fellows in Al-Mawrid and are working closely with Javed Ahmed Ghamidi. --SaadSaleem 06:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online Sunni resources
Category talk:Rapid transit in North America

message: The name of the category is misleading in the sense that included countries such as Panamá or Cuba are not part of North America. Panamá is part of Central America and Cuba which belongs to the Caribbean, but not to Central America. Tom Paine (talk) 13:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name should state: North, Central America and the Caribbean
Talk:89th Grey Cup

message: The image is missing, could someone fix it? There are others like this too. --WestJet 20:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Missing
Talk:George McCrae

message: It's been cited by American musicologist\radio announcer\disco-jockey Felix Henandez (for any of us who had forgotten, amidst the plethora of music output of the 70s) that George Mccrea's single "I Get Lifted" reached #8 on the charts and was an mainstay att he discos in the US, probably his only other big hit.  Perhaps it wasn't promoted by his record lable "TK Recorcords".  This should be mentioned.  --98.113.167.4 (talk) 19:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Talk:George Michael (sportscaster)

message: re: "While some have criticized his interviewing as soft, Michael's affable personality has endeared him to the curmudgeonliest of local and national sports personalities ..."
curmudgeonliest? is that a word?
169.253.4.21 18:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:William Seymour, 2nd Duke of Somerset

message: I wonder if this is somebody who is so well known by a lesser title that the article should be placed there, despite his being given a higher title.  For most of his life, the subject of this article was known as either "Earl of Hertford" or "Marquess of Hertford," and under that name he played a significant part in the political events of the day.  He was restored to his great-grandfather's dukedom only about a month before his death.  Obviously, that restoration was important, but is it important enough to call him by a name he bore for only a month or so? john k 20:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I've added a new image of William Seymour (right). Feel free to use it or not use it. I'm pretty sure it's not his son, since the artist did most of his work before 1660, but he is quite different-looking than in the existing image. Dcoetzee 09:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

message: This article (as well as Arbella's) states that William was 6th in line to the throne (and Arbella 4th) at the time of their secret marriage in 1610. However in 1610 the King had three children living, then Arbella was 4th in line as the only other surviving descendant of Henry VII's eldest daughter Margaret. When Henry VII's descendants through his other daughter Mary are then listed we have in 5th place William's father Edward (who didn't die till 1612), then in 6th place William's childless older brother, also Edward, (who didn't die till 1618). William is the next brother so that would make him 7th not 6th in line, meaning that either his place in the succession has been wrongly counted in this article, or William's father or brother had actually died earlier than the article says, or the genealogy is wrong to give William an older brother ( in which case it could be that either the older brother's birthdate is wrong and he was actually younger, or he doesn't belong to that branch of the family at all). Unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge to work out exactly which of these possible causes has led to the conflicting information in this article. 
MrDannyDoodah (talk) 06:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where was William in the succession at the time of his secret marriage to Arbella Stuart?
Talk:George Mountbatten, 4th Marquess of Milford Haven

message: This article is lacking sources. Where does the birth date come from? (Dewiki has a different birthdate [and no source either...]). --PaterMcFly talk contribs 19:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Got this resolved. The dewiki article was wrong about the birth date due to a calculation error. --PaterMcFly talk contribs 09:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources?
Talk:Nedumudi Venu

message: Added Filmographyactivevoid 20:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewritten
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles/Miscellaneous

message: Klonimus's edit summary Mirv you arent even a member, why are you so involved? made me realize that manuals of style for different subsets of editors on the same topic is a really, really bad idea. Sure, it seems fine when only one group has it, but if others took a cue and wrote up their own style manuals, we would end up with endless sterile edit wars should the Salafists decide that use of honorifics is mandatory, or the Shiites that the name of Yazid should always be followed by "(laanat on him)" or whatever. One style manual for Islam-related articles, developed with input from all interested editors, is what we need. —Charles P. (Mirv) 21:31, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be the link for the neutral article for the needed standards. --Juan Muslim 13:38, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, laanat on him! (relax, having fun *smile*) --Striver 01:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  :) it wasn't purely hypothetical (though it was a joke); I've seen one or two examples of inexperienced editors doing almost exactly that. —Charles P. (Mirv) 02:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: There are some standardization issues that are discussed in the Islam WikiProject. Such as when should the Islam template be placed on an Islam related article? Much of what is found on the Islam WikiProject article should be incorporated into the Manual of Style. --Juan Muslim 07:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam]] 

message: Can we have a talk about it? I want it on the articles it links to. --Striver 01:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Muslim Beliefs]]
Talk:George N. Gillett Jr.

message: Any Montreal Candiens fans wish to share their opinion on Gillet? How is he generally percieved by the fans?Musungu jim 19:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Montreal Canadiens 

message: He is the best a man get Yeah so  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigspencerziggy (talk • contribs) 10:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is the best a man can get 

message: Information is incorrect and outdated relating to Liverpool FC ownership
Fnpltf (talk) 18:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Fnpltf, 15 October 2010 

message: The info panel states his dates of Office, his predecessor and successor. But what office did he hold? It is very unclear Alehanro999 (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In what office?
Talk:John DeStefano Jr.

message: I have to admit that it is a bit strange to do a Google search on my own name and have this article come up as the first hit.  It certainly matches my given name, yet refers to another person who happens to be more prominent in the public scope due to his political achievements.  Then again, three of the top eight Google hits for 'John DeStefano' return pages that refer to me.  Does that make me irrelevant? ;)
So I guess my question is: why does one person get a WikiPedia page, and another doesn't, when they share the same name?  Should I create my own page?  or overwrite this one with my own autobiography?  A spooky Internet conundrum indeed.
--Deesto (talk) 18:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The short answer is: this John DeStefano, Jr., has a Wikipedia article about him because he is "notable".  (See Wikipedia:Notability.)  If you are notable, someone can create a Wikipedia article about you.   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 
Talk:George Nelson (astronaut)

message: If somebody wanted to do a rewrite of this, the fact that Nelson enjoys golf really ought not be listed in the second sentence. Jessicapierce 20:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unimportant info listed first
Talk:George Newbern

message: Is this the narrator on A Man Called Ove?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eminent Elvira (talk • contribs) 17:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

message: As fans, we notice the news: "We're excited to announce that veteran actors Parker Posey and George Newbern have joined the cast of Granite Flats for Season 3! Parker Posey is known for her many roles in independent films, as well as large productions like "You've Got Mail", "Best in Show" and "Superman Returns". George Newbern has starred in dozens of films and television shows, from "Father of the Bride" to his current role in the popular ABC series, "Scandal".
http://www.BYUtv.org/seethegood/post/Parker-Posey-George-Newbern-join-Granite-Flats-cast.aspx
 Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 21:07, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Will star in Granite Flats (BYUtv) 

message: Brimming with Love role of Addison Rickford 2600:1700:A6D0:2400:D56:EFEC:3316:E780 (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2018 Movie
Talk:George O'Callaghan

message: Did George O'Callaghan receive medals for the Munster Senior Cup? It seems a bit strange that a full-time player would be credited with honours in a competition traditionally seen to involve reserve or under-21 players for Cork City. --GavinZac 14:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Munster Senior Cup 
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles/Family tree

message: Since the family trees of every person is so well documented and relevant to ahadith, i propose that we try to fill in the family tree of everyone, using the Family tree of Ali ibn Abu Talib as strandard. 
It starts with grandfather/mother, then father/mother, brother/sister and the self. Then wives. Children are indented under the mother, since the father can have several wives. Each new wive/family  also gets a extra line-feed.
--Striver 02:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family tree
Talk:Homecoming Saga

message: The article on the Homecoming series states:
"After the Earth was rendered uninhabitable by human wars, mankind departed for Harmony, as well as at least forty other planets. (Only one of these is named in the series, Ramadan, settled by Arabs."
Where was this information pulled from?
I just finished the 4th book of the series, "Earthfall", and near the end, a passage from the "Book of the Sins of the Human Race", written by the settlers of Harmony, states:
"The Earth had no more room for human beigns, and if they were to live at all, they must leave.  Seven fleets were assembled and seven colonies left, and of the others we have no word."
With Harmony and Ramadan, that would only leave five other colonies.
Am I missing something here?  Kythri 20:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Either it was a goof, or maybe there were later expeditions. Afalbrig (talk) 07:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Exodus from Earth

message: While e.g. some of the names look rather Russian, the "lost" words of the first novel (zrakoplov, puscani prah - really puščani prah) are in fact Croatian. I edited the article accordingly. 131.130.224.103 (talk) 15:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Russian vs. Slavic
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles/Formatting articles

message: I propose that we add the  at the top of every Sahaba, or at least at the top of every non-prominent sahaba. the template displays this text:
This category contains articles about the sahaba of Muhammad.
Then also add Category:Sahaba under it so as to list them here
--Striver 16:17, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It wouldn't look correct; I've had a recent dispute/discussion (which almost turned nasty) with another user about this (I wanted a correct version and he didn't want anything like that at all) and in the end I created the template . It was agreed that placing this at the end of every article about a sahaba would be the best compromise. The category, of course, should be at the end. MP   (talk) 11:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sahaba 

message: Teachers:
*????
*????
Students:
*????
It will repeat the information in the article, but will be of great help for those that want to see the line of teachers and whom he taught without wanting to go through his biography. It will also encourage people to add those facts, if they are missing.
It will also let one to follow the line uppwards or downwards the line of students, for those intrested in doing so.
If no student and/or teacher exist, or if it is assumed that the list is incomplete, i propose to add sometheing like:
Teachers:
*????
*
Students:
*(none known)
My first implementation of this standard is here: Ibn_Kathir.
--Striver 01:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, look at this! I could advocate using that on the more prominent scholars! --Striver 06:15, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic line
Talk:George Randolph Hearst Jr.

message: Although some sources say Hearst joined the military during World War II period, there are no reliable sources found as of yet that specifically state he actually served overseas during the war. Accordingly, :Category:American military personnel of World War II was removed from the article. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 01:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Military service

message: *Stumbled across 1969 death mention of his first wife.  They divorced a few months before this.  Short AP blurb primarily says "died at her home yesterday, apparently of natural causes.  She was 38 years old."  Seems weird that nothing more is said, but not really unusual for 1969.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: First wife
Talk:George Ratterman

message: I added mention of Ratterman's fine (if rather low-key) color work for the NBC Radio Network's coverage of Super Bowl I, given that it is such a distinction in the history of pro football broadcasting.  If anyone doubts the factuality of this, the broadcast--paired with the heavily-edited NFL Films footage of the game--is newly available here in 2015 on YouTube.   [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.153.105.32 (talk) 04:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio color analyst for NBC Radio broadcast of Super Bowl I  
Talk:George Read (Alberta politician)

message: What does George Read do for a living? Why isn't that in this article? Me-123567-Me (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It’s not listed because there is no citable source listed that identifies his occupation. If you come across one, please add it. —GrantNeufeld (talk) 05:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Occupation
Talk:George Reinholt

message: The St Petersburg Times used for the source that he's gay is not very good -it's a brief mention in a gossip article. I could not find any reliable sources to back up the claim, so I've removed it.  Per WP:BLP, please find a reliable source if you wish to addd his homosexuality back to the article. -- SatyrTN (talk/contribs) 19:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay?
Talk:George Rodrigue

message: Why no photos of George R. and no pics of his work? He is a painter and also does sculptures. Wouldn't it be nice to see examples of his work? Knitwitted (talk) 17:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Visual Aids
Talk:George Segal

message: There are conflicting dates of birth given. Is he 85 or 75? 71.68.238.185 (talk) 01:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How old is he? 

message: While the article states that Segal was born in New York City and provides sources for this claim, other sources state he was born in Great Neck, for example this obituary on NBC website, this one on USA today, and this actor biography on ABC website, and there are more. Which is the correct place of birth? How can this be verified? Thanks, The coffee machine (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A primary source, the New York City birth index, confirms that he was born in NYC. I will look into adding that, as I think it is a permissible use of a primary source per WP:PRIMARY. Coretheapple (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Coretheapple, thanks for checking this! The coffee machine (talk) 19:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth?
Talk:George Sewell

message: Wiki says 2nd april while iMDB says 1st.  Additionaly, the obit linked to from the Wiki said he died on Sunday, which happened to be the 1st.  Considering 2 sources both say different to Wiki, I corrected it SmUX 17:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Also, The Times, which is used as a reference in the article, says he died on the 2nd. --Snigbrook (talk) 15:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death corrected 

message: The page on his brother Danny says that their father was George Sewell, the right-hand man of Charles/Darby Sabini (both are fictionalized in Peaky Blinders). I doubt this is true, since respectable sources such as the Guardian just say he was a printer.  Perhaps someone who knows more about this could take it out. 91.148.228.38 (talk) 16:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabini 

message: He plays Mr Rouncewell, appearing first in episode 5 of 8 in the excellent BBC adaptation with Diana Rigg and Denholm Elliott at the Head of a fantastic cast . 31.94.6.55 (talk) 17:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bleak House ( 1985)
Talk:George Spencer-Churchill, Earl of Sunderland

message: The article says that Sunderland is now the heir to Blenheim. My understanding is that the Marquess of Blandford was stripped of his right to inherit his father's wealth. I thought that, by law, the Marquess can't be deprived of Blenheim and other properties when the Duke dies. Which is true? PeterSymonds | talk 19:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Father out of will
Talk:George Stephen Morrison

message: I have reason to doubt that the picture of Jim Morrison with his father on the bridge of the USS Bon Homme Richard was taken in 1964.  At that point his son would be 20 or 21 years old & was almost finished with his college education.  Although I don't know what his relationship was like as of then with his father, he would claim his parents were dead some 3-4 years later in a bio-press release by The Doors' record company.  Also, his haircut in the picture appears too extreme (short) for him at that point in his life.  Finally, he looks too young in the picture for a 20 or 21 year old.  Anybody else have additional input or a correction?  Thanks... Dirty Dan the Man (talk) 02:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Jim Morrison in 1963?
Talk:George Tabori

message: I have classified this article as a stub due to its level of organisation and detail. Capitalistroadster 05:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub classification
Talk:George Taliaferro

message: Thank you for your contribution. In the future, please sign your posts with four tildes.--BillFlis 01:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: You are invited to join a discussion related to this article at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#%22a_NFL_team%22_or_%22an_NFL_team%22.—Bagumba (talk) 05:37, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A" or "an"? 

message: Forgive me if the formatting is incorrect, this is my first ever comment. The photo being used for George Taliaferro is clearly incorrect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Taliaferro#/media/File:Hill-Jerry-1970.jpg
Please look to replace it. 2001:EE0:53DD:EF10:3518:67C3:9DAA:FA4E (talk) 08:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The photo used is of "Jerry Hill".
Talk:George Thomson, Baron Thomson of Monifieth

message: In political affilations it lists Lord Thomson as being in the SDP from 1981 until 1988 (when the party merged with the Liberal Party to become the Liberal Democrats. It also says in the lead section of the article that "In the 1980s, he joined the Social Democratic Party. Following the SDP's merger with the Liberal Party, he became a Liberal Democrat". On the face of it this sounds plausible, but it is contradicted by his Royal Society of Edinburgh obituary which states he sat on the crossbenches until 1988, only joining the Lib Dems when he ceased to be chair of the IBA -see George Morgan Thomson. I would have thought this could well be correct as the holder of such an  independent office would usually suspend any party affiliation during the period they held office. Thus I am not sure he was ever a member of the SDP. Can someone find a source that would confirm this one way or another? Dunarc (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Membership of the SDP