Talk:Black legend

message: This article seems to lack any reference to the brilliant book "Tree of Hate" by Phillip Powell, one of the most brilliant books on anti-Hispanic bias in the American education system.Harlyn35 (talk) 13:45, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: No reference to Tree of Hate

message: It has been noted many times that there is massive duplication between this article and the specific one on the Spanish Black Legend.
I am therefore proposing that the majority of the material in this article be merged into the dedicated article.
Mauls (talk) 12:21, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Veverve (talk) 12:30, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I saw there was a consensus and did the merge (see: here and here). Veverve (talk) 12:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for tackling this, ! Schazjmd (talk) 13:54, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Black Legend 

message: I find the following part confusing:
:It is usually shown by tales with:
:Narrations of black legends tend to include: Strong pathos, combined with a narrative that is easy to follow and emotionally loaded, created by:
It sounds inconsistent and I can't follow the reasoning. Is a part missing? There are too many colons ... Can you rephrase this part to be clearer? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 00:13, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common elements of black legends 

message: Did this article begin as a translation?  I noticed a couple of usages that would be unlikely from a native English speaker. —Tamfang (talk) 00:59, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  original language? 

message: Gibson, discussing 'Black Legend' and 'White Legend' in one of the most important works says:  But authors do provide definitions which make a noun of 'legend' and these can be practical and serviceable.
*The body of esp. 16th and 17th century propaganda literature, probably the simplest and most straightforward def.
*A negative, traditional and stereotypical portrayal of Spain and Spaniards in and based on that body of literature
*Anti-Spanish attitudes, an otherness of Spain as less enlightened than her European rivals
*That part of the record which is false or exaggerated
Authors might be perfectly coherent while providing such a definition for their purposes, but i don't know that we could pick one of these, even without considering more polemical usage. Karmen says:  I think even trying to encompass our reasonable author's opinions we cannot not make a really suitable and accurate definition. I think using "...is a phrase" or "...is a term" is frowned upon for article introductions, but struggling to come up with a good alternative. fiveby(zero) 15:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , planned on citing those works in bibliography eventually, but leave in Further Reading till they are actually cited? About to change the lead section to follow above. fiveby(zero) 14:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  It just seems to me as a reader to be terribly cluttered to mix up sources which are called by citations and works which are not. DuncanHill (talk) 14:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh don't read the article yet, it needs a lot of work! Is there a particular way editors are supposed to do bibliography first article writing? Sandbox or add sources to talk page maybe? fiveby(zero) 14:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Definition