Talk:TransLink (South East Queensland) services

message: What's with the dodgy move by SM247? Someone more senior should take action. Tell SM247 about proper procedures, etc, and revert the move and move the pages properly if necessary! Mathieumcguire 00:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dodgy Move

message: During the AfD period many suggested improving the current formatting of the article. As there is a lot of data, it is imperative that we get it right first time to prevent too much stuffing around.
I'm thinking perhaps a table with columns for Route Number, Type (eg. link, BUZ, cityxpress etc.), terminii, major ports of call, and an abbreviation for operator - basically the info already there reformatted. I believe that would tidy up the presentation of the article somewhat, though it may be a tad messy to implement.
Any suggestions? --Bunza 12:06, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I have a spreadsheet that fills a similar function to this page, and in creating it I learned some of these entries will have to be changed (mainly relating to operating hours and service types). SM247 21:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tips for improvement 

message: This article came to my attention when it showed up in my "slow parse" log at an astonishing 22 seconds. This style of data generation is really not acceptable. Wikitext is not a programming language, you can't expect an array lookup implemented with such an ugly hack to be executed in any reasonable amount of time. Although the concept is admirable, it will have to wait until we have m:wikidata. Basically I intend to subst every template, both here and in the route articles, and then put the TL templates on TfD. -- Tim Starling 17:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is, once it has been parsed the first time after a change, it is cached and loads as quickly as any normal page. Whenever I change anything, I load the services page to have it cached for future visitors. --Bunza 13:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm aware of the parser cache, I wrote most of the relevant code. It's important to have decent cache miss performance so that diffs, previews, saves and certain kinds of page views are displayed to the user in a reasonable amount of time. I have no problem with the size or content of the article and I have no intention of deleting it. My problem is just with the -based templates. I'm asking for your help here in keeping Wikipedia responsive. If implemented widely, this kind of technique could have a significant performance impact, and the simplest way to prevent that is to deal with it on an editorial level. I don't want to have an adversarial relationship with the editors of this article. I'm sure we can come to some kind of compromise. -- Tim Starling 00:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have replaced the use of  with  throughout. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 17:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Fair enough, its just that the templates, if you will examine their usage, are quite widespread now. It became quite a pain in the arse to update each entry manually when a change occurred, thus why a template was required. If there is an appropriate alternative that will enable us to simply alter a template rather than many text entries on separate pages, please feel free to enlighten us as then the problem could be averted. SM247My Talk 00:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Most of our performance issues are because of good intentions ;-) But as we all have intention to create the nice encyclopedia, than anyone can use (and edit), we should not make them wait for zillions of seconds on an article. Parser cache is not used in many cases for editors - only latest revision is saved. If you see slow-rendered article somewhere out there, it is every editor's obligation to make it faster. Or of course, there is always another path - optimizing the software itself, and you are welcome to do that. Domas Mituzas 15:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the hide/show feature, thanks to whoever added that. Now that the whole thing has been substuted, I guess the new protocol for route additions/alterations/deletations is to change the source templates, so that the Bus stations which rely on the templates (and can do as they are far less "intensive"), and then resubsitute it into this page. --Bunza 11:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too slow 

message: Should a reorder of the regions easier for users to navigate? Although following the route numbers is a good idea but it looks wierd.
I propose - Brisbane N,E,S,W, and then N,E,S,W regions and then Sunshine and Gold Coasts as the order of the routes list.Matt ke 04:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  reordering TL bus routes list 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:TransLink (Brisbane) Logo.png

message: I believe that Bus upgrade zone be merged into this article as Bus upgrade zone is a duplication of information in this article. If there is no objection by next week I will start the move. (Gezzza (talk) 13:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bus upgrade zone]] Merge discussion 

message: I have redesigned and moved service info into templates. This will make it easier to edit, makes use of the features in templates and allow this services info available to be include on other articles. The templates are:
*Template:TL Services buses
*Template:TL Services ferries
*Template:TL Services trains
Gezzza (talk) 03:01, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Services moved to templates and redesign