Talk:Collective farming

message: Sorry for my pedantic posting here, but we should keep in mind that encyclopedias determine the placement of topics based on an overall organization.
Based on the title, this is an article on collective farming, i.e. the underlying theory of a producer cooperative in agriculture, as opposed to a profit-maximizing firm. Such an entry should discuss the theoretical organizational arrangements and internal workings of the collective farm (e.g., distribution of output, incentives, the allotment of land, decision-making, etc.) and the ideologies espousing this model. But the content on this page seems to be upside down, focusing more on practice than theory.
Of course, when it came to the Soviet kolkhoz and collective farms modeled after it, the theory and the reality of the collective farming didn't bear much of a resemblance. However, the theory has profound implications for the understanding of collectivization. We have to address this somewhere, so we might as well put it here, where it's supposed to be.
For our purposes here, e.g., coverage of the kolkhoz (the Soviet collective farm - the "practice") belongs in the Economy of the Soviet Union (linked from its parent article, Soviet Union) and related articles. The article on the Soviet economy contains a section on Soviet collective farms, known as the kolkhoz. Stalinist collectivization throughout the Soviet countryside in '29-'33 collectivization is another topic, and it's discussed in entries on Soviet history. 172 00:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Details

message: I suggest that someone also discuss the de-collectivization of collective farms as a historical fact. How far has the process gone? What are the national differences in de-collectivization? What resistance has existed? How id agricultural production respond? --66.231.38.97 06:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: De-collectivization

message: The Soviet Union did not undertake the world's first campaign of mass collectivization. The Romans already did the same 2000 years ago.
Why this isn't included?  SeldPhoton (talk) 15:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romans collectivization 

message: Information about collective farming in Cuba must be added to this article. Cuba is at the forfront of progressive farming, and a majority, if not all farms in Cuba are collectivized.
I came to this article looking for information on collective farming in Cuba, but there is none. Just a friendly suggestion.
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"Cuba is at the forfront of progressive farming" - any sources? Xx236 14:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cuba

message: Large parts of this article are written in an essay style, rather than the style of an encyclopedia. I am not an experienced editor, so I don't want to pass judgement and go around changing anything on such a prominent article. I just though I would bring it to the attention of someone better able to make a judgement. An an example:
"Anyway, "failure" is a term which indicates nothing about the magnitude of goals set and results achieved. For instance, the meat target set in the 1982-1990 Soviet Food Program was an average annual output of 20.25 million tons. The Food Program target was not met, though production in 1990 hit 20 million tons.[7] Hence, the plan failed."
I'm not disputing the article's contents, only its tone. 129.67.172.102 (talk) 16:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: i agree with you, i added a tag. the article is about collectivization. the goal is for the casual reader to be able to understand the basic facts; what was it, where, when, why, how and who. then to understand the academic debates over it; who made the debates, did they publish notable books about their argument, etc. as it is currently written, it does not accomplish those goals. it is confusing, hard to follow, hard to understand, etc; part of that is the poor grammar, poor writing, poor word choice, and poor organization.  Decora (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone

message: the section about arguing over 'was it a failure' is poorly written, confusing, and badly organized.Decora (talk) 20:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  the quality tag 

message: Individualism, Collectivism, and Economic Development
Richard Ball
Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science , Vol. 573, Culture and Development: International Perspectives (Jan., 2001), pp. 57-84
Collective Action and Citizen Responses to Global Warming
Mark Lubell, Sammy Zahran and Arnold Vedlitz
Political Behavior , Vol. 29, No. 3 (Sep., 2007), pp. 391-413
The information contained is useful in determining motives behind modern collectivization movements.
Lrcobbe (talk) 20:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources regarding Theory of collectivization 

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Peasant Participation in Communal Farming: The Tanzanian Experience
Dean E. McHenry, Jr.
African Studies Review , Vol. 20, No. 3, Peasants in Africa (Dec., 1977), pp. 43-63
Demography and Development Policy in Tanzania
Rodger Yeager
The Journal of Developing Areas , Vol. 16, No. 4 (Jul., 1982), pp. 489-510
Lrcobbe (talk) 19:16, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of Tanzania 

message: There seems to be an unequal distribution of information on collectivization between the nations. Particularly between the large Soviet Union section, and the smaller sections for Romania, Moldova, and Mexico. Additionally, it would be interesting to see a few North American examples as well. DonGabrieli04 (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recommendations 

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message: :The statement it was not until 1940 that agricultural production finally surpassed its pre-collectivization levels should be supported by statistical data. Which production? 
:There was a war and hunger since 1941. When the pre-collectivization level was surpassed after WWII?Xx236 (talk) 11:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  1940 results 

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message: Collective farming and communal farming are various types of, "agricultural production in which multiple farmers run their holdings as a joint enterprise".[1] There are two broad types of communal farms: agricultural cooperatives, in which member-owners jointly engage in farming activities as a collective, and state farms, which are owned and directly run by a centralized government. The process by which farmland is aggregated is called collectivization. In some countries (including the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc countries, China and Vietnam), there have been both state-run and cooperative-run variants. For example, the Soviet Union had both kolkhozy (cooperative-run farms) and sovkhozy (state-run farms). 2405:201:2000:30B2:405F:6E85:2868:EC94 (talk) 07:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collective farming 

message: The fourth paragraph under the 'Soviet Union' section consists of a rather out of place & uncited paragraph concerning collectivization of Moldavia. It doesn't seem to pose enough of a significant difference to warranting mention (compared to Ukraine in the paragraph prior) and would be better suited under Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic or Collectivization in the Soviet Union, or related articles. Lemonlite (talk) 01:09, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited, out of place paragraph on Moldavia