Talk:WWE One Night Stand/Archive 1

message: According to this page on WWE.com's website regarding Tazz and Heyman's ECW AONS announcement, the event is still being refered to as One Night Stand (or "another One Night Stand," with the word "another" apparently being kept out of the title).  I'm not suggesting we change this page just yet, as it very well could turn out to be called Another One Night Stand.  I imagine we'll find out tonight for sure when the announcement is televised on RAW. Just something to keep in mind. Jeff Silvers 23:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Did I just miss the announcement last night, or was one not made? Because I seemed to remember hearing that Tazz was going to repeat the announcement last night on RAW (perhaps they meant he'd repeat it on SmackDown!, which would seem to make more sense anyway). Jeff Silvers 01:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They've done almost nothing to promote the show at this point, since they're far too busy with Wrestlemania 22 and Saturday Night's Main Event.  I suspect we'll see more of an "official" push once both those events are over, just like the ONS show last year wasn't pushed much until after WM21. BronzeWarrior 09:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WWE has released an official poster for the event now.  I won't get into details about what the poster contains because it actually contains major spoilers, but I will say that it confirms the event is called ECW One Night Stand 2.  I think the article title should now be changed to reflect this. Jeff Silvers 01:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Oh.  Apparently that poster was a fake.  Well damn. Jeff Silvers 13:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Great move to ONS 2006 whoever did that. Really good thinking. I'm very happy with that. Normy 08:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Actual name?

message: Someone wanna fix the image on the page so that the Image: and the 200px things don't show above and below it? The Phenomenal One 05:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about this but I've removed it, it's fake. Apparently, ringsidemayhem took the poster made by a guy called Alldawson from this graphics battle on the Extreme Warfare Battleground and posted it up as real. --Oakster 08:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: Unless you hear something official on WWE TV or on WWE.com, do not go posting any rumored matches...I know RVD's been hinting what he's gonna do with his briefcase, but nothing official has actually been said. The Phenomenal One 05:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's quite simple. It's because the match hasn't been confirmed by any sources, only hinted at. And WWE hints at many things we want (a Shane-O-Mac face turn), that don't happen. And Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, deals in fact, not rumor. Darryl Hamlin 14:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Confirmed Matches" 

message: I read this on Rajah.com, with PWTorch being the source:
Source: Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter
The current plan for the upcoming ECW PPV in June is for Rob Van Dam to cash in his Money in the Bank contract against John Bradshaw Layfield for the World Heavyweight championship. This scenario requires Rey Mysterio to drop the title to JBL before the show. RVD has yet to announce who he will face for their title and would not do so until after the title change. Challenging JBL for his title would require RVD to jump to SmackDown.
There had been previous talk about having RVD face the winner of Sunday's Backlash main event. However, there is an issue with Van Dam facing each of the three possible opponents. Triple H is on the verge of turning face and getting such major negative heat on him conflicts with that. John Cena also doesn't need that negativity while he's already fighting on a weekly basis for the fans approval. Edge has little history with RVD and minimal history with ECW. Edge's only history with ECW was appearing at last year's One Night Stand PPV as part of the anti-ECW crusaders. The leader of that pack was John Bradshaw Layfield. He was the most outspoken about ECW last year and it is expected that his tirade will pick up once again very shortly, making him the perfect target for RVD.
I don't know if that can be included somewhere in the article, but I figured I'd bring it to everyone's attention. The Styles Clash 00:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why they don't just keep the World Heavyweight title on Mysterio until ONS and have RVD challenge him.  Mysterio has history with ECW so it would make sense for him to participate (as he did last year). Jeff Silvers 00:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The common response to that seems to be that they want a clear cut heel for RVD to face, or Cena since it's pretty safe to expect he'd get booed out of the building by the ECW fans. I kind of think that it's a shame since if Mysterio went out there on top form, unlike last year, he and RVD would have a match that the ECW audience would love, and in the unlikely event of Mysterio retaining it could perhaps give some credibility to his reign. --Kiltman67 04:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Something Interesting

message: I replaced the old image with a newer one that features a bloodstain and a caption that reads, "EXTREME PAY-PER-VIEW FROM THE ORIGINAL EXTREME BRAND" (most likely added to the poster to emphasize the fact that ECW is now a full-fledged WWE brand). Jeff Silvers 21:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I uploaded a new image based on the old one - the new one had a rather unsightly watermark and was a PNG when it should have been a JPEG. If you find a new one without the watermark, replace the one I uploaded with it. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New poster 

message: If a wrestler's name is already in the matches section (e.g. Cena, RVD, Mysterio) does their name really need to be in the talent page? Why can't we put in brackets something like Mick Foley & Edge (representing WWE) vs. Tommy Dreamer & Terry Funk (representing ECW)? Normy 06:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matches and Talent 

message: It appears somebody moved Mysterio from the "Representing WWE" column into the main roster of the event (which appears to be reserved for ECW-brand wrestlers). Any reason for this, seeing as how he is still on the SmackDown! roster? Jeff Silvers 15:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mysterio respresenting ECW? 

message: Please do not add FBI/Tajiri & Crazy or Mahoney/Tanaka until they are officially announced by WWE.  Being listed on a T-shirt does not make them official, and WWE has since pulled that shirt, anyway. Jeff Silvers 03:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-shirt matches 

message: i am currently wondering your thoughts on wether they will count the victory since paul heyman counted the 1-2-3 insted of a ref....i am currently 50-50 because part of me says that it will count but the old undisputed title will come back setting up cena edge at vengence and part of me says no because the wwe is gay like that and on monday night raw vince will come out with john cena and state that it doesnt count and cena is still the camp therefore setting the stage for the mcmahon(s)/cena vs "new-old" D-X (Triple H/HBK) just my opinion not a spoiler or w/e just my thoughts.....what do you guys and gals think.......~Jesse
They already said on wwe.com that if RVD won he would have to defend the title against Edge at Vengeance. Add in the fact that Vince would not let his WWE Title be renamed the ECW Title and i'm willing to bet that Edge will win the title at Vengeance. TJ Spyke 03:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Will they count the victory of rvd 

message: Im pretty sure i heard some Fuck you Cena chants so im gonna add it.
User:Killswitch Engage
Do we even need a chants section? It just looks more like clutter to me and I doubt most people care about the chants that were made. Maybe it could be trimmed down to about 4 or 5. TJ Spyke 21:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The chants section is a bit extensive, but ECW is well known for the crowds chants. Id suggest maybe reorganizing the list and group similar chants/chants giving to specific wrestlers thoughout the night. It'll shorten the list visually, without really messing it up. DemonWeb 01:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ive shortened the list down to about half, leaving pretty much just the more memorable chants from the event. Any opinions? DemonWeb 23:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't sleep, clowns will eat me deleted the chants and I agree with his edit. This stuff is largely unverifiable to the user and it's notable enough to be included. A few could be mentioned as prose in the overview to describe how the crowd was. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chants

message: Just a curiousity, but why did the crowd chant Hepatitis at Randy Orton? ~ Punk2h8tshun
Because his father, "Cowboy" Bob Orton, has hepatitis. Cowboy Bob got released from WWE after he bled during his match with The Undertaker at Armageddon(John Laurenitis know this but allowed the match to happen anyways). TJ Spyke 21:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hepatitis? 

message: I don't think there's going to be a 2007 because ECW has came back so I dont think the new ECW is going to have ECW One Night Stand.--Yowiki 02:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically it didn't make sense to call it that this year either, but they did. We don't know if they will rename it next year. TJ Spyke 00:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Doubtful. Besides, as of right now WWE's affiliated site says ECW. TJ Spyke 03:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007? 

message: The consensus on WP is to only use official info from WWE for locations. Unless you have a source from a WWE site (wwe.com, WWE's corporate website, or the WWE Affiliates site), do not change the location. TJ Spyke 01:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some sites, like PWInsider and Wrestling Observer are considered highly reliable, so I don't see why they can't be used as sources in the future. BuyAMountain 02:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they aren't always reliable, and it's been agreed not to use their "info" for PPV's. It's a moot issue though since the WWE Affiliates website has noew updated with the info. TJ Spyke 02:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007location 

message: I was just reading that because of the recent change to PPV formats to start having all brands be featured on all future WWE PPV's that the name of the PPV may be changed to WWE One Night Stand, should we make note of this? TonyFreakinAlmeida 21:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless WWE annnounces it, no. We don't add rumors and speculation. TJ Spyke 21:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that the poster came out it pretty much confirms that it will be called "WWE One Night Stand".-- bulletproof 3:16 23:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
ECW One Night Stand → WWE One Night Stand — No longer an ECW PPV . Mshake3 21:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
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====Survey - in opposition to the move====
#Oppose until it is formally announced weeks prior to the event in commercials, TV, and advertisements. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments:
*Would you care to explain why? TJ Spyke 21:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 14:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
#
====Survey - in opposition to the move====
#Oppose until it is formally announced weeks prior to the event in commercials, TV, and advertisements. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: #Oppose until it is formally announced weeks prior to the event in commercials, TV, and advertisements. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

message: :Add any additional comments:
*Would you care to explain why? TJ Spyke 21:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 14:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Who was the ring announcer for ECW One Night Stand 2006?? Derrty2033 06:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Long time ring announcer Stephen DeAngelis (who was originally hired to be the ring announcer for the ECW brand as well before WWE decided to use Justin Roberts). TJ Spyke 06:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!!Derrty2033 07:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ring announcer 

message: I'm pretty sure Vince isn't really going to face the Blue Meanie. The stipulatios is now that Lashley will get Vince in a street fight, assuming he defeats all his opponents tonight. So either keep it as Lashley v. Vince or leave it blank until RAW is over.
:1)Yes I doubt it is really the Meanie, but that is who Vince said. 2)They didn't say who Lashley would face, it could be Shane (since it was Shane who said it was on). Also, Lashley has to win some matches tonight to even qualify. TJ Spyke 01:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blue Meanie 

message: The promotion poster for Saturday nights main event was put up last Thursday and it says that it will be Edge & MVP Vs. Batista & Chris Beniot and it will be the last time both champions face each other before there matches at One Night Stand.
Meaning MVP Vs. Benoit  ( Not a spoiler if WWE has put up like hundreds of posters advertising it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.112.163 (talk • contribs) 
:I am not seeing any promo poster on WWE's websites and rumored posters floating around on "news" sites are not acceptably. What is your source? Besides, that wouldn't be an announcment anyways. TJ Spyke 05:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No you didn't. The info on the SNME page came from a PR, which only had text. TJ Spyke 05:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saturday Night Main Event ***Spoiler Alert*** 

message: Even though the match is not for the belt, shouldn't Melina still be recognized as the Women's Champion?  24.89.69.22 20:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was agreed a long time ago that we don't list titles unless they are on the line in the match. Since the Women's Title won't be on the line, we don't mention it. TJ Spyke 20:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pudding Match 

message: TJ, if you're looking for an official announcement, look here http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/55145/Another-Match-Added-To-WWE-One-Night-Stand-Card.htm
Plus it has been added to WWE.com's One Night Stand page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWikiBoi (talk • contribs) 
:1)That's not an official announcment (unless 411mania.com was purchased by WWE last night). 2)It is NOT on WWE's One Night Stand site (which you would know if you had checked it first). No such match has been announced on TV or wwe.com, so it will be removed everytime someone adds it. TJ Spyke 21:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do so many IP's think they are right? I read the spoilers every week, but the policy (the same one we've had for a LONG time and has a warning on every PPV page) is that we don't add matches until they are announced on US TV or the companies website. The match wasn't was only announced on US TV last night, after WikiWikiBoy made his edit. So, I will allow you to tuck your tail between your legs and pretend this didn't happen. (BTW, don't give me and "Don't bite the newcomers", I am just having some fun with someone who thinks they are one-upping me). TJ Spyke 00:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Why are the trolls attracted to wrestling articles. It was NOT on wwe.com before Friday night. Not stop insulting me and BSing me before you get blocked. TJ Spyke 20:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep it up, you won't last long on WP acting like that. The match was not added on WWE's website until Friday night, we don't add spoilers here. TJ Spyke 00:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Some people just never learned how to admit that they are wrong. For the record, the match itself was ANNOUNCED on Smackdown, then added to WWE.com. There was no announcement prior to their Smackdown encounter on WWE.com (unless you count the spoilers). It was right to have been kept off until Friday night.Garistotle 13:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lumberjack Match 

message: What's wrong with mentioniong that submissions don't count? Koberulz 03:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that it's "Pinfalls Count Anywhere" makes it pretty clear IMO. TJ Spyke 04:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that I had to look it up on WWE.com to make sure editing it to "Falls Count Anywhere" was correct, which it wasn't, says otherwise. Koberulz 09:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Obvious though it may sound, the phrase "Pinfalls Count Anywhere" doesn't inherently imply that submissions won't result in a fall.  In fact, until hearing Cena mention it on RAW, I hadn't even realized it. In addition, specifically noting that submissions don't count is important in the historical perspective due to Cena's "controversial" submission victory over Khali at Judgment Day that led to this rematch. Jeff Silvers 22:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FCA Match 

message: I just saw The WWE Experience and the graphic showed that the lumberjacks are:
Chavo Guerrero,
Deuce,
Domino,
Boogeyman, 
finaly,
the miz, 
shannon moore,
paul and brain,
snitsky,
carlito, 
masters,
Balls Mahoney,
kenny,
shad,
JGT,
Viscera ,
Val Venis, 
nitro,
Brett Major,  
Brian Major. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.114.163 (talk • contribs) 
:We will see if that ends up being true or not. TJ Spyke 21:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  i saw that too, but anything can change between now and ONS so best too leave it at the moment Cradle666 13:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  lumber jacks 

message: We should include Cena's reaction at ONS 2. It was 100% negative to the point of near riot. Also the reaction was noted many times on WWE by many different people. Cena, JR, Lawler, Heyman and RVD are just a few who noted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.21.121 (talk • contribs) 
:Not notable in my opinion. Alot of wrestlers got a negative reaction at the event, Eugene who was also face at the time was booed. If it was going to be noted it should be in John Cena's article Don.-.J 18:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena's Reaction 

message: I can't understand what the big dispute is. Instead of edit warring further, let's discuss it here. Gavyn Sykes 21:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that this new user says it is OR to say who is on the poster even though the poster is right there. First he claimed that only Lashley was on the poster (even though it is clearly both Lashley and Cor Von), then when I said he was just Lashley he still reverted. I have even given him proof that wwe.com says Lashley is on the poster . TJ Spyke 21:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is definately both Lashley and Cor Von. I suppose, technically, without a source, it being Cor Von's as well as OR. But i think WP:Ignore All Rules applies here.
At the least, Blue Shrek, stop editing it to remove the poster info altogether. Gavyn Sykes 22:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

text: You are saying that doesn't look like Marcus Cor Von on the left? To me, it seems like they morphed their faces together (like they morphed Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon's faces for the WWF Invasion poster). BlueShrek reverted even when I said it was just Lashley though. TJ Spyke 22:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lashley's the only guy on the poster. Koberulz 10:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now BlueShrek has decided to remove mentions all together. I can't revert though since I don't want to violate 3RR. He also refuses to discuss anything here or at WP:PW, and now Rob is siding with him (although I think Rob is just doing it because he seems to disagree with me on everything and is making a bad edit at the TNA Victory Road page). TJ Spyke 21:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure how they are not seeing Cor Von's face on the left, but anyway. You're right, Rob does seem to disagree with you a lot. In any case, give me a link, I'll back you up, Spyke. Gavyn Sykes 21:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: No, that is your OPINION (right/wrong can not be applied to opinions). This doesn't have anything to do with you, Rob and I don't get along and I think he is siding with you just for that reason (so he would do the same even if it was someone else instead of you). The posters are notable and who is on them should be noted. TJ Spyke 22:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I was not wrong. It is your OPINION that the posters shouldn't be included (just as it's my opinion they are, and opinions are not right or wrong). I am not mad, I am just becoming frustrated because the posters are notable but I can't put them back in yet since that would be violating 3RR. Why do you keep removing them anyways? Is it because I showed you proof that Lashley is on the poster? Because you didn't seem to mind the posters being mentioned before that. TJ Spyke 22:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotional Poster Content

message: It just doesn't seem relevant Mark handscombe 18:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only problem multiple articles create is that it means even more articles to watch (my watchlist is already 350+ articles long). TJ Spyke 02:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My watchlist is 827 pages. I don't think that's really an issue. If you don't use them already, popups really help things move along quickly. Peace, The Hybrid 02:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, really pages are only I guess really busy at that time of the year, for instance ONS would get loads of edits in May and June, but hardly none in December (apart from the blatant vandal that appears once or twice). Am I wrong? Davnel03 15:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. They still get edits, but the majority of the edits are around the time of the PPV (especially vandalism, which usually dies down the day after the PPV). It may be part of the reason that WCW and ECW PPV articles rarely get edits. TJ Spyke 21:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally support the separation of the articles giving that the 2005 and 2006 events were under the ECW banner while the 2007 show was produced under the WWE banner. --Raderick 20:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we need seperate articles for each year 

message: Calgary and Edmonton are possible venues for 2009`s show.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.174.121 (talk) 18:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everywhere's a possible venue really. We need a reliable source before any infomation gets added into the article however. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Find a reliable source, a rumor site isn't reliable. You need something like WWE itself, the arena hosting it (since they sometimes announced ticket info before WWE announces the location), or something like Ticketmaster. TJ Spyke 17:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Night Stand Possible Venues 2009