Talk:Western Railway Corridor

message: This is an excellent addition to the railway section in west of Ireland. Its a great pity more use is not made of our extensive railroads. Well done Zoney! --File Éireann 10:04, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old 2005 post

message: I have delisted this article. Sections have been added that are poorly written. It is illogical in structure, it contains wadges of rubbish quotes undifferentiated from the text of the article. It contains a ministerial statement in full containing some waffling evasive answer to a parliamentary question. In short, someone has broken this article. Curtains99 16:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we actually need these extensive quotations? Comparing what the article looked like as Zoney left it with what we have now, I think his version gives us much the same information -- but far more succinctly. -- llywrch 16:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be fine to link to an external document, I should think. Evertype 17:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delisted good article

message: This article has been tagged for neutrality due to the systematic removal of all referenced criticisms of the subject matter and the addition of editor-written analysis of primary source material contrary to WP:OR and WP:RS
::However, the Department of Finance Report for the Joint Committee on Finance and the Public Service issued in June 2006 entitled "Progress on the National Development Plan 2000-2006" shows: P20; 4.6 "In the Public Transport area €2.7 billion or 117% of forecast has been invested in the South and East region to the end of 2005," while on p24, 3.9 it states "In the Public Transport area €283 million has been directly invested in projects in the BMW region." Forecast expenditure was €448 million. This means that significantly less than the actual sum forecast was spent in the BMW, although 27% of the state's population reside there.
Please return the article to a neutral state and then remove the POV tag. Thanks, Curtains99 11:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the POV tag as there has been no discussion and issues are minor. Additions of information by 213.202.157.180 further add to this balance. Can people close to the Pro-western corridor lobby groups please refrain from removing cited sources even if they are against your or your group's views. Remember the NPOV official policy which is paramount to the reliability of Wikipedia. Jamesnp 12:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV tag

message: I dropped this paragraph:
The Leader of the Opposition, Enda Kenny, T.D., has highlighted the exact extent of this underspend: (Massive underspend in National Development Plan in BMW Region – Kenny), 9, as has the BMW assembly, the West on Track Campaign (Anger over infrastructure underspend in West - Irish Times 2005), 10, and MEP Marian Harkin (Harkin deplores underspend in BMW region), 11. In February 2007 the Urban Forum highlighted the damage being done to Dublin and to the regions by the lack of balanced regional development and called for the urgent development of an “Atlantic Corridor”12.
This paragraph seeks to prove that the Western Region of Ireland is underinvested by central government. There are two problems with this.
First: Wikipedia articles list the published opinions of others but an article cannot draw information from two sources and combine it to build a case or prove something. This kind of writing is non-neutral and forbidden by wp:npov and more specifically by WP:SYNT
Second: there is no consensus amongst published sources that one region of Ireland is underinvested compared to the others. Every regional authority makes reasoned arguments as to why it is underinvested and should receive a higher share of investment from central government or EU funds. See the annual reports of each regional authority: Dublin Regional Authority, Mid-West Regional Authority, South-West Regional Authority or Midlands Regional Authority. 
The notion of a 'fair share' of central government funds cannot be determined by Wikipedia as it si too complex and would require original research  which is forbidden. For example, is a fair share of investment to divide money equally between regions in proportion to population? or would it be more fair to allocate funds based on disadvantage, thus giving to those who need it most? Or maybe it would be more fair to allocate funds according to tax collected in the region, reqarding those who work hardest or pay most taxes?  ReadyForTheSedative? 12:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synthesis of published sources to build a case is forbidden per [[WP:SYNT]] 

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message: Would there be any support for extending the rail line north of Sligo to serve Co. Donegal?  It seems logical to extend it to Donegal Town, (with maybe a spur along the coast to Killybegs, where there was a Railbus service until the late 1950s) then to Letterkenny, and finally meet up in Derry, where the rail line and station already exists.  This would greatly help with tourism, cross-border initiatives, environmental issues, and with trade.  Any thoughts anyone?
Mickeyjoe (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extension of Western Rail Corridor 

message: Ardrahan station is mentioned in the map at the side with an opening date of 2008 - however, the article it links to says the station will open in stages starting in 2009 and that the station is currently closed. Does anyone have a source for the expected opening? Autarch (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ardrahan railway station 

message: Just a few words on the changes over the past week or so. 
The article needed a bit of a clean up, so I've tried to get it a little under control and it seems to be getting there. My general impression at the moment is:
*The debate section could become a battle ground. So lets just cite a few sources both pro and anti, and let the reader chase up through external sources. Are enough references given to the anti campaign to make this a balanced section?
*I removed the Press Coverage section as it pretty much duplicated the Debate references. 
*The Progess of Works section could use a tidy-up, perhaps a properly timelined sequence of events and developments.
*Too many minor edits are being saved by (primarily anonymous) users. Please make an edit, click show preview button, and if happy continue to your next edit without saving. When all edits are completed hit the save button. This avoids lots of minor individual saves showing up on the history.
Anything else?--Milesoneill (talk) 08:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Main article changes (during May 2009)

message: I want to talk about the Bquinn207 edits. If, as I suspect, this editor is Brendan Quinn of the Sligo-Mayo Greenway campaign, surely his contributions are not encyclopedic by nature and are indeed biased? Mr. Quinn has campaigned long and hard against the WRC for some years now. 
I have removed two POV items from the article; one regarding rail freight and the other regarding the section for TEN-T funding as the section was inaccurate and biased. The Limerick-Athenry section is in fact part of the TEN-T Comprehensive network. This is not mentioned by BQuinn207 in his edit of the section.
Donoreavenue (talk) 12:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  BQuinn207 edits  

message: The recent edits to this article by user brenquinn have been removed. They were POV rather than encyclopedic fact.
Donoreavenue (talk) 14:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further edits to article by Brenquinn  

message: The comments added about European TEN-T policy not including the Western Rail corridor north of Athenry are not POV they are statments of Fact.  The European TEN-T policy does not support any further extensions of the Western Rail Corridor nor does it have any long term objective for a railway from Athenry to Donegal/Derry.  Suggesting a railway corridor is going to be opened north of Athenry is totally and utterly a POV there is no plan from Irish Government, Europe or Irish Rail to suggest the railway will ever be re-opened. This is not POV it's fact.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brenquinn (talk • contribs) 20:50, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  editing of Brenquinn contributions 

message: I propose to put this article to the formal dispute resolution process as you have reverted the edits made yesterday and I do not wish to have an edit war on the page. 
Donoreavenue (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute Resolution 

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