Talk:Sojourners

message: Rather than having an article for the magazine and another for the community, the articles should be merged and reconfigured to speak of Sojourners as an organization.
As the article in its current form states: "Sojourners magazine, a progressive monthly publication of the Christian social justice organization Sojourners."  Both the magazine and the community are component parts of a larger organization that includes the magazine (its flagship publication), a mobilizing and messaging team, and a faith community.
It really makes the most sense for this article's focus to be on the organization, and the magazine and community as component parts of the greater whole. Sojourners (talk) 17:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been almost a year, and no-one has shown any interest. I am removing the tags. StAnselm (talk) 01:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Sojourners Community and Other Changes

message: I wrote the previous statement that defended Sojourners.  I want to rescind any thing I said that gave the impression that Sojourners is an unbiased, fair publication.  They are a distinctly liberal and it is extremely dishonest for them to advertise with a slogan like "Not from the left, not from the right, but from the Spirit."  I have no qualms about them claiming they are from the Holy Spirit, what I have a problem with is an organization thats about as unbiased as moveon.org luring in moderates with claims of political neutrality that turn out to be completely bogus.  I have left their organization because I cannot stand any longer their nasty and hypocritical attacks on conservative Christians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdwall‎ (talk • contribs) 06:04, 3 October 2006
Its good policy to sign your name when editing the talk pagesKbomb 20:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous Statement 

message: I'm kind of surprised there's not a page for this, there really ought to be. I checked the deletion log, but the reason given leads to a non-existent page. Is there a reason there "shouldn't" be an article on "Sojourners" or that I shouldn't create an article here? Inexorability 04:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for not creating? 

message: Retain wp article people ...  99.112.213.121 (talk) 00:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why?  You keep adding editors and Wikilinks to newly created stubs.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 02:21, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is helpful to link to the contributing editors.  108.73.114.19 (talk) 02:01, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is your discussion Mr. Rubin?  97.87.29.188 (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said before, why?  You haven't provided a reason for inclusion.  WP:NOT#DIRECTORY is a reason for exclusion.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 16:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Arthur. You have not explained how a laundry list of contributing editors aids the reader of our article in their understanding of Sojourners magazine. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The List is useful for the Wikipedia:Audience, giving them context of the magazine's article's writers.  It is to me an unusual viewpoint magazine, and the list is helpful as to the magazine's categorization.  97.87.29.188 (talk) 21:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how the full list of "contributing editors" is useful to anyone.  It's like the list of all authors of articles in a journal.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 22:36, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you assume it is a complete list?  Since at least 2009 this wp article has listed contributing editors (as do many other wp articles).  99.181.132.165 (talk) 05:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You still haven't explained why such a long list is necessary. Can't you provide the same information (per WP:AUDIENCE) with one-third or one-quarter of the names? You could easily start by removing the (non-notable) people without Wikipedia articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I was about to suggest that very compromise.  Listing only the contributing editors with WP articles would satisfy the desire to learn about contributors at a glance while applying a rough notability filter. Rostz (talk) 05:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I went ahead and did this, but I won't shed a bitter tear if there's no consensus for it. Rostz (talk) 05:50, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree with Rostz, as a reasonable compromise, although it would seem better to keep the whole list as wp articles come and go, and why lose information that we already have?  64.27.194.74 (talk) 19:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Even the list of chief (subject) editors in a real journal would be overkill.  "Contributing editors" means authors, for this journal.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 20:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Rostz idea sounds reasonable.  Why lose this knowledge?  97.87.29.188 (talk) 21:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what to say at this point - there seems to be consensus (several anon, two non-anon) to include a short list of notable authors - as I said earlier, it provides gestalt at a glance - but I'm reluctant to revert an experienced admin.  Rostz (talk) 23:50, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Sojourners is not a biography of living person.  99.181.145.221 (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the "contributing editors" are living people, and I couldn't honestly say that being associated with Sojourners is not controversial.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

text: So is your "logic" any wp article with any living person mentioned a WP:BLP, Art?  99.35.12.88 (talk) 02:29, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Any statement about a living person is subject to WP:BLP, yes.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What?  This isn't a biography magazine.  64.27.194.74 (talk) 20:46, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retain wp article people ... 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Sojourners. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100518203754/http://theacp.org:80/ACPawards2010 to http://theacp.org/ACPawards2010
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100619220013/http://sojo.net/index.cfm?action=special.RV&item=RV_order to http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=special.RV&item=RV_order
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100526082153/http://www.sojo.net:80/index.cfm?action=special.RV&item=RV_order-pdf-daily-show to http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=special.RV&item=RV_order-pdf-daily-show
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090902081839/http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.display&item=HC09-audio to http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.display&item=HC09-audio
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100620082113/http://sojo.net/index.cfm?action=events.M2EP&item=M2EP-by-the-numbers to http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=events.M2EP&item=M2EP-by-the-numbers
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thread_title:  External links modified