Talk:Lady A

message: How do we handle articles with these parentheticals with the band’s name change?--BaseFree (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless they are re-issued with the new name, we keep the old name normally in these type of things. --Masem (t) 17:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

text: Also as a note, I see someone went through and appeared just to do a search/replace to change ALL instances of "Lady Antebellum" to "Lady A". This was not correct per convention - the old name should be used until the point it changed (2020), though you can work sentences around to minimize use of the name. But changing this haphazardly changed the titles in some of the references as well, which is not correct. --Masem (t) 17:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems someone has already moved the articles, presumably in ignorance of this talk section--BaseFree (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ignoring that "Lady A" goes against WP:COMMONAME, saying that any 2006-June 2020 release is a "Lady A album/song" is factually incorrect. It is What's My Name? (Snoop Doggy Dogg song) not What's My Name? (Snoop Dogg song) or Puppy Love (Lil' Bow Wow song) not Puppy Love (Bow Wow song). I have reverted all changes, and hopefully, they will remain like that. © Tbhotch™ (en-3). 20:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Lady A doesn’t go against CommonName for the band itself, but as for everything else, that makes sense--BaseFree (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Twas I who, as stated above changed those names and moved the articles "in ignorance" of this conversation. I do apologise and appreciate  cleaning up after me. Robvanvee 01:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

text: Personal attacks are not welcome on Wikipedia. There's no need for name-calling; just assume good faith, and revert/make the necessary changes as needed while explaining the issue (though in this case the reasoning's already explained above). V2Blast (talk) 06:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Lady Antebellum song) and (Lady Antebellum album) 

message: Great to see that the article was updated with the name change. Peter K Burian (talk) 13:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The band is by FAR the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. You'd be hard pressed to find much significant coverage of Anita White that isn't related to her name dispute with the band. Per WP:ONEOTHER, disambiguation pages aren't needed when there are only two articles and one is primary. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 13:07, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This may once have been true but the present fact is that, thanks to this controversy, Anita "Lady A" White is now far more well-known than ever before, and it can be argued in good faith that she is equally related to the name "Lady A" now. Consider: today, when someone searches for the term "Lady A", are they more likely to be searching for the original, now-nationally-known Anita White, who is known in the public eye primarily as "Lady A," or the band that was until extremely recently officially "Lady Antebellum" (notwithstanding the band's nickname, used commonly but never officially)? If we can't answer this question with certainty one way or the other, there is no primary topic. 68.74.215.101 (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia uses the name provided by reliable sources. It doesn't "take sides", it reflects the reality in the media. The case is more nuanced than you make it, as Lady Antebellum has three registered trademarks for "Lady A" and Anita White doesn't have any. While Anita White had been using the name earlier, the fact that she didn't try to defend her trademark when the band applied to register it could mean she has forfeited her claim to it, but trademark law is nuanced and the issue will ultimately have to be decided by the courts. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 13:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  And since the issue has not been decided by the courts and the 'reality in the media' is a consensus that the name is under dispute, Wikipedia should revert to the full name until the dispute is resolved.  Personally, I was shocked that an editor jumped the gun and went charging into this name change, and that it's been allowed to remain.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:400:C580:9087:B410:C355:538B (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

text: It's worth noting that, while Rolling Stone (a reliable source) refers to them as "Lady A", People.com (a reliable source) refers to them as "The band formerly known as Lady Antebellum." I don't think there is consensus among reliable sources that "Lady A" is the band's official new name. Anyone looking for information on the band is, in my personal view, far more likely to use their old name as an identifier. 68.74.215.101 (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

text: Having just watched a segment on CNN about all of this, I would agree that it isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia to use a name in the middle of a trademark battle, regardless of how well known the band is. I am not versed in Wikipolicy but this is my gut conclusion. Buffaboy talk 18:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lady A Title Dispute 

message: The name lady A is already taken, this is copyright infringement. 2600:387:0:9A2:0:0:0:43 (talk) 02:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Request exists above. Please don't make duplicate requests for the same change. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2020 

message: I thought it had already been recognized in the discussion above, but statements like:
:Lady A released a "Lady Hazed" version of Jason Aldean's song "Dirt Road Anthem" titled "Country Club Anthem" on its installment of Webisode Wednesdays on August 10, 2011
are simply false. The content of the article covering up to mid-June 2020 should be resotored, using the band's then-current name. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, if for no better reason than allowing the article to include the current nonsense between the band & white, & facilitating the casual reader who finds them curiously attractive to locate their back-catalogue under its published name, not this post-BLM back-pedalling version. duncanrmi (talk) 17:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

text: It's mentioned earlier in the talk that an editor overzealously changed every mention of "Lady Antebellum" to "Lady A", even material from before the name change. If you see an instance of this that hasn't been fixed, be bold and fix it yourself. V2Blast (talk) 06:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical accuracy 

message: Currently, all three images in this article date from before their name change, but two of them use "Lady A" in the caption and one uses "Lady Antebellum". Obviously something needs to change. My question is "which caption(s) should change?".--Khajidha (talk) 20:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image captions