Talk:Payroll tax

message: On April 15, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion.  The result was keep.  See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Payroll tax for a record of the discussion. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:17, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment, and PLEASE HELP!  Try your hand at editing.  Pick a section, read up on it, and then make it simpler.  We need your help. Oldtaxguy (talk) 23:09, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD

message: We need to compile a list of countries with payroll taxes.  
Do any of the African countries or China have payroll taxes?--71.105.27.126 08:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Payroll taxes in other countries 

message: My first thoughts on seeing the article is that there's not enough material to support multiple articles on the topic. I would propose merging in PAYE and Pay-as-you-go tax into the article. Does US style witholding also qualify as a payroll tax? I understand it doesn't replace the need to make a return as well, but the same holds for people with non-simple tax affairs in the UK system too. Winklethorpe 13:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I have a little more time today, I'll add the banners for discussion for merge.  Payroll tax in the U.S. is normally associated with a select group of taxes related to Social Security, Health Care, and Unemployment.  Income taxes are usually just called income taxes and do not usually imply payroll taxes.  Of course both are payroll taxes and income taxes (and both use withholding) but we use the terms to generally mean different types of taxes. Morphh  (talk) 13:36, 05 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge in [[PAYE]] and [[Pay-as-you-go tax]] 

message: "on each additional amount of gross compensation" - should this say "wages"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morphh (talk • contribs) 12:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I normally do not change discussion page posts. I have removed a link to an external site advocating tax fraud that was posted by a one-edit user. Oldtaxguy (talk) 04:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

text: While I'm not the one that removed it, I don't know that the link is considered a reliable source per wikipedia standards.  The page seems to be promotional.  In addition, I don't know that this information should even be in this article.  It is better suited for FICA. Morphh  (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Social security and Medicare taxes

message: I disagree with the change from "all 50 states" to "most of the states".  ALL states and DC assess unemployment tax, which is a payroll tax.  The "all 50" statement is correct, the "most of" is not.  I have reverted the change. Oldtaxguy (talk) 01:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  State payroll taxes 

message: I propose to revert the entire edit by anonymous editor 109.78.232.168.  The edit merely reorganizes the article to put the U.S. system first and thus prioritize it.  I have added the Globalize tag, and will post this comment on the anonymous user's discussion page in case he/she looks there. Oldtaxguy (talk) 23:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed reversion of US centric reorganization by anonymous editor 

message: payroll tax is actually a misnomer.  social security and unemployment insurance payments are not tax.  income tax withholding is tax on income.  there is no tax on payrolls.  Darkstar1st (talk) 19:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Social Security and Medicare taxes are taxes imposed under 26 USC 3101 and 3111.   To quote 26 USC 3101:"(a) Old-age, survivors, and disability insurance.  In addition to other taxes, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages" at Social Security tax rates, and "(b) Hospital insurance. In addition to the tax imposed by the preceding subsection, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages" at Medicare tax rates. 26 USC 3111 has similar language related to employers. They are taxes.  "Withholding" of income tax is not a tax, but a prepayment of taxes not yet assessed. Oldtaxguy (talk) 18:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  poorly sourced