Talk:Dan Marino

message: The final sentence in the first paragraph has taken many forms: the current one ("greatest pure passer;, my edit ("one of the greatest passers"), and the version just before that ("the greatest passer"). I think we should settle on the wording of this sentence once and for all, maybe even eliminating it.
And as I look further back in the history, perhaps the fairest first paragraph is the one revised at 00:44 on 9 August 2005.
Opinions on how this part of the article should read?
72.10.241.61 05:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was looking for a word to serve the purpose of "arguably;" I am uncomfortable with anything that seems to indicate a lack of debate.--72.10.241.61 01:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position in history 

message: Dan Marino is not widely considered the greatest quarterback in history. Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas receive at least as much recognition as the greatest quarterback in history.
Generally Marino's name comes first, there's just always an asterisk. Many people call him "statistically" the greatest QB of all time. --Mankind716 03:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NO, he's NOT 

message: Between Brett Favre and Peyton Manning, a lot of these records are gone now... should they be left in with a note on when/who broke them? Don't think it would be right to outright remove them even if I'm not a big Marino fan... :)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.42.128.28 (talk • contribs) .
I think I might have solved that problem with a slight change to the header. PJM 12:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Records broken 

message: " being ungraciously pushed out of Miami by new coach Dave Wannstedt "
That was in the phrase regarding his retirement, and while it is largely believed by many Dolphin fans (including me), it has no basis in fact. I changed it to : Before the 2000 season, Marino decided to retire, after declining offers from Minnesota and his hometown of Pittsburgh. The part I deleted had been after the first comma. Nanaharas 04:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed POV passage

message: I'm not sure what the point of the following ELs is, so i've moved them here.  Thoughts?
*Dan Marino Tribute Fansite: www.DanMarinoTribute.com
* Dan Marino's quick release
* Marino and FirstPlus Mortgage
* The Dan Marino Foundation
They don't seem to "pass" WP:EL. Jmfangio 09:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ELs 

message: I put all of Marino's stats in table format.  I could not find in any of the sources Dan's passer rating or longest completion for his playoff stats, so if anyone knows where to find those stats, either put them in or let me know, thanks! Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Stats 

message: These sentences were confusing - they read as if Marino himself kicked a field goal:
Marino played college football at the University of Pittsburgh from the 1979 to the 1982 season. As a freshman in 1979, Marino led the Panthers in a 24-17 triumph over West Virginia in the Backyard Brawl with 252 yards and a field goal. Marino threw for 256 yards and also rushed for 40 yards.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.191.241.48 (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, and he didn't kick a field goal. I've simplified the paragraph.  Frank    talk  15:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1979 Backyard Brawl 

message: I've removed some content a couple of times now as non-encyclopedic; it was most recently re-added with the edit summary That's all fact-based and could easily be sourced if necessary. Well, it could be thought of as necessary except for the fact that the wording itself is just plain non-encyclopedic:
:During Marino's professional career (1983–1999) in Miami, he was one of the most skilled and revered quarterbacks in the game. Marino's release was incredibly quick, one of his most important weapons. Also, despite the fact that he was not known for his scrambling ability (he averaged less than 1 yard per carry on his 301 career rushing attempts), Marino possessed an uncanny awareness in the pocket, often sliding a step or two to avoid the pass rush. He has the most fourth quarter comebacks (36) in the history of the NFL, and the third most wins by a starting quarterback (147). John Elway and Brett Favre are ahead in overall wins.
Keeping WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, and most especially WP:PEACOCK in mind, there are several problems with this passage. Most skilled and revered, incredibly quick, important weapons, and uncanny awareness are judgments. Instead, by listing his accomplishments and by quoting reliable sources, we can (and should) say things more along the lines of accomplished quarterback, known for quick release (with cite), excellent peripheral vision (with cite), and the like. The last two sentences seem OK as they are except that they are completely unsourced.  Frank  |  talk  22:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So why didn't you just fix the paragraph instead of removing it completely? A simple search for terms like "quick release" brings up a book called Dan Marino by Jon Sterngass that basically says everything above on page 62 (the quick release, the pocket prescence, the 301 rushing yards). The comebacks are already referenced in the article. Smk42 (talk) 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: First, because the majority of the paragraph is simply not encyclopedic and reads like an adoring fan's tribute to the man rather than a serious encyclopedic article. Second, we don't put things into articles and hope someone else takes the time to provide sources, saying "could easily be sourced". I see you've put the material back in, but it's barely better than it was.  Frank  |  talk  23:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peacock 

message: Do most articles on athletes include a personal section which talks about things like affairs?  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/dan-marino-love-child-_n_2594611.html
He's admitted it, so there aren't any BLP problems.  Thoughts?LedRush (talk) 05:42, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Affair 

message: Personally, I think anyone who confuses the two deserves what they have coming to them. One is a quarterback, the other is a principality.--Guiletheme (talk) 20:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not to be confused with San Marino? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It's sort of an odd picture. It appears to be in motion of him adjusting his face/mouth, and just overall, not a good, encyclopedic representation of what he looks like, so I don't really understand why it was approved. 2601:58B:C601:7AE0:9045:21F0:45B6:7CA3 (talk) 15:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird main picture

message: You all have reverted edits that state Marino was a 5x second-team All Pro player rather than only three times. However, the source used in the All-Pro articles by year, pro-football-reference.com, shows that Dan Marino was an AP selected second-team All-Pro player in both 1988 and 1983. I accepted an edit correcting it to five times, I just wanted to note this since it has been reverted multiple times previously. Thanks! —FORMALDUDE (talk) 04:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you not find? The source clearly shows Marino as the second-team All-Pro quarterback in both 1983 and 1988. Just Ctrl + f (Windows, Linux, and Chrome OS) or ⌘ + f (Mac) to search the phrase "Dan Marino". —FORMALDUDE (talk) 06:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

text: No problem, thanks! —FORMALDUDE (talk) 06:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

text: Please refer to the discussion on WP:NFL I linked in my edit summary, which I'll link again for you here and which refers to this particular article. The reasoning for only including three of the years he was a second-team All-Pro is given there, and those who took the time to respond seem to all agree that only AP All-Pro selections should be included in the infobox. He was only an AP All-Pro in '83, '94 and '95, as seen on the Pro Football Hall of Fame article as well as his Pro-Football-Reference page. If we are to include NEA All-Pro then he's actually a 7 time Second-team All-Pro. KristofferAG (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second-team All Pro 

message: Why are you only allowing the AP All-Pro Teams? The Hall of Fame and Pro Football Reference recognizes Marino as an 8-Time All-Pro. Stating on this page that he was only a 6-Time All-Pro is NOT a correct statement and gives your site no credibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarinoFan13 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dan Marino was 2nd Team NEA All-Pro. Please fix this. 

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message: dan needs to hang out with dignan more 125.253.110.13 (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dignan