Talk:The Silver Chair

message: :"... Initially, Jill and Eustace are aided by a Parliament of talking owls (a pun on Chaucer's Parlement of Foules). ..."
Was it specifically a pun on Chaucer, or on the fairly-well-known collective noun for owls? (For which, Chaucer was maybe the creator?)
—wwoods 05:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parliament of Owls 

message: You're getting obssesive, people.
I think that spotting any hardly visible connection with Jesus is funny: I myself can't see any true connections between The Silver Chair and Christianity; and quoting John 6:44 is plainly silly, you could find a chapter in Bible corresponding to any cultural fact you can imagine, including Ozzy Osbourne and Bhagavadgita. I guess you could find some similarities between The Silver Chair and Buddhism, Taoism or Grand Chair Manufacturers of Britain, but - what for?
Could we just delete the section? Come on, admit it, there are no TRUE parallels, the only one exist in heads of blind and humorless Christian fundamentals. In half of books I know there's a motif of temptation, a struggle between good and evil and so on. Say, Crime and Punishment. And there's a hell lot of Christian parallels in Dostoyevski's work, if you ask me. Delete the section, pleaze, it's becoming far too absurd.
213.17.152.100 18:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Aslan does constantly refer to humans as "Daughters of Eve" or "Sons of Adam". Ever noticed that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.240.249 (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with the first guy.  There's way too much religifying in the entries on Narnia.  Sure, Lewis also wrote the Screwtape Letters and the like, but it's almost like they're trying to make the Narnia Chronicles into some kind of modern apocrypha.  It seems to me that Lewis himself wasn't half so obsessed with the symbolism employed in these books.  Why should the rest of us be?--24.19.171.110 (talk) 01:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian parallels?! 

message: I think the chapter listings for the Chronicles of Narnia books should be removed. I started a discussion at Talk:The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe#Chapters--roger6106 03:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Consider it done. They are unneccessary. b_cubed 03:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chapters 

message: WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The phrase Prince Rilian the Disenchanted is never mentioned in the book. Someone change his title at the end of the summary. Thank you. 71.38.213.104 18:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, but it is. I'm afraid I don't have my books handy, but it is so dieclared at the end of The SIlver Chair. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the phrase "King Rilian the Disenchanted" appears in chapter 16 of "The Last Battle"... AnonMoos (talk) 00:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rilian|Prince Rilian]] the Disenchanted 

message: I'm kind of confused. Is C.S. Lewis condemning or condoning "Parable of the Cave" in the mentioned sequence? I think it's about some people bound in a cave, and a philosopher helps them see the "true" reality. How exactly did Lewis view it? Scorpionman 12:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plato 

message: Seriously, is this Sparknotes or Wikipedia?  Since when do encyclopedia entries have uncited "commentary" sections.  This article needs a dramatic revamp. 68.100.78.157 09:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sparknotes? 

message: Is it possible that the Dawn Treader appears in the book the Silver Chair. In the book Caspian sets sail on a ship to retrace the journey that the Dawn Treader took to the eastern ocean. The book gives very little discription of the ship that Caspian travels on in the Silver Chair and does not specifically say that it is not the Dawn Treader. As many ships will be kept in service for decades and the Dawn Treader was supposed to be brand new at the time of the book the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, it may be very possible that Caspian's ship in the Silver Chair is the Dawn Treader, used to retrace it's original voyage.--Preator1 (talk) 17:42, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting speculation -- but speculation.  -- Elphion (talk) 21:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  However, I think the Dawn Treader was one of the first attempts at Narnian ship-building after the centuries of Telmarine landlubbing, and that Caspian would have been ambitious to go on to build bigger and better ships... AnonMoos (talk) 00:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The Dawn Treader appearance

message: The first graf is not quite correct, as Eustace periphratically refers to Edmund and Lucy as "the two Pevensie kids" in the first chapter. Can someone take a crack at getting this info. in the graf? Maybe a rewrite or repositioning is needed. Ellsworth (talk) 22:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What graph (?) are you referring to? -- Elphion (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Abbreviation of "(para)graph", I presume... AnonMoos (talk) 00:34, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so, I mean the opening paragraph of the article, before the TOC and first header. Ellsworth (talk) 22:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyway, the Pevensie children are part of the background events to the Silver Chair, but are not actual "on stage" characters.  They are mentioned, but they do not appear as such, so I'm not sure that there's a problem with the current wording... AnonMoos (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Me neither, that's why I left it as is because I couldn't figure a way to rewrite it that would be a marked improvement. Hopefully someone will be bold and give it a shot. Ellsworth (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absence of Pevensie children 

message: One source for The Chronicles of Narnia is sure to be immensely useful for this and other Narnia book articles. --and for some more articles on Narnia particulars such as characters, peoples, places. 
* Ford, Paul (2005). Companion to Narnia.  Revised Edition. San Francisco: HarperCollins. . (another reference identifies 2005 as the fifth edition)
The Companion is an alphabetically ordered enyclopedia with thousands of entries. One of the longest is Plato, or Platonism, etc. (section 7 above).
Skimming this page today, I recall Companion entries that pertain to sections 1, 3-4, 7, and 9. That is, not merely entries for Parliament or Owls, Christianity, Green witch and White witch and Jadis, etc, but entries that pertain in some details mentioned here.
Much that would be "speculation" not permitted here on the part of wikipedia editors may be covered in these articles and attributed to Ford or to his sources.
(to be continued at a main Narnia page) --P64 (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ford's ''Companion to Narnia'' 

message: "She encourages them to proceed northward to Harfang, the castle of the "Gentle Giants", who she says would be glad to have them at their Autumn Feast."
This seems to parallel Damon Knight's short story (and a Twilight Zone Episode) To Serve Man, published a few years earlier; does anyone know if there is any connection?
--Philculmer (talk) 18:53, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: C.S. Lewis did acknowledge reading "a highly-coloured American magazine of what they call ‘Scientifiction’" (see the preface to The Great Divorce), but the resemblance here doesn't seem specific or detailed enough to require Damon Knight influence (of course the Twilight Zone TV show is chronologically impossible)... AnonMoos (talk) 17:51, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harfang - To Serve Man