Talk:1942–1944 musicians' strike

message: I came to this page to learn about the musician's strike and what goals the union achieved. There is hardly any information about that here. What was accomplished, and how did musicians benefit?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bskaat (talk • contribs) 17:46, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Content Regarding What the Union Accomplished 

message: I happen to know that many of the major labels (especially Columbia and Victor) reissued records from their back catalogues (as far back as the mid-1920s) during this strike, so I added that information to the article.
Garr1984 15:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back Catalogue Reissues during the Strike 

message: Since the strike or ban lasted from 1942 to 1944, the title date of 1943 is incorrect. It should be changed. 
Also, someone should figure out links to searches under recording ban and musician's strike. This article is hard to find.
And I'd like to see any examples from the 1920s that were reissued during this period. My example is only 1939.
Wis2fan (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  title of article 

message: I have assumed that this also increased the popularity of Folk music, which has no copyright.  However, I cannot find any online documentation.  (Meaning I'm too lazy to Google.)  Am I correct? Pittsburgh Poet (talk) 15:14, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folk? 

message: Surely there must have been musicians around (other than vocalists) who did not belong to this union?  And the article should explain why (under what legal rule or precedent) this brand of extortion was permitted.  121a0012 (talk) 00:49, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I think I've figured it out now.  Apparently the AFM had (now illegal) closed shop agreements with all of the radio networks, film studios, recording companies, and local radio network affiliates.  The article should state this.  121a0012 (talk) 07:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And I see from later sources that the electrical transcription companies (radio networks which distributed their shows on special records rather than over phone lines) brought the issue before the War Labor Board in 1943; at the first hearing, the AFM's lawyer claimed that the WLB had no jurisdiction because the musicians working for the transcribers were not on strike but had instead simply quit.  (The union would still be able to enforce its boycott against the transcription companies because the musicians were freelancers and needed to be able to work in hotels ballrooms, theaters, dance halls, and radio stations, which were all subject to closed-shop agreements; Petrillo needed only to threaten the expulsion of a member of the union to bring them into line, lest the union cut off their livelihood.)  121a0012 (talk) 07:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-union musicians 

message: Burns and Collier attribute the lack of early bebop recordings to the strike, which is understandable but IMO questionable.  In 1942-43, bebop had no recognized commercial potential.  It was strictly an "in" thing among dedicated musicians and a very small, adventuresome audience.  It was not something major label executives were going to touch.  It was in fact the small labels that grew into a niche provided by the strike and recorded right through the ban that distributed the first bebop, or ur-bebop recordings (e.g. Coleman Hawkins and Dizzy Gillespie, Woody'n You, Apollo 751, February 1944).75.111.54.141 (talk) 22:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burns and Collier's assertions questionable. 

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message: According to the record producer Charles O'Connell's The Other Side of the Record, the Boston Symphony was unionized before the strike: "the unionization of the Boston Symphony ... presently was accomplished... Mr. Petrillo's ultimatum of 1942 put Victor in the ridiculous situation of having first refused to record Boston because it was non-union and then for two years refusing to record because it had become union" (p. 261).  This seems like a much more reliable source than the link given, which seems pretty vague on whether or not Boston was involved in the strike.  
113.22.77.91 (talk) 14:00, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boston Symphony 

message: Why are there no visuals for this article? Wyattjenkerson (talk) 01:11, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: The article itself had good information, but I found certain parts of it to be lengthy and not as easy to read. This was mainly due to the length of the sentences. There was the occasional run on, and there were many longer sentences that were written back to back.
Angeltaduran (talk) 22:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overall impression