Talk:List of cosmic microwave background experiments

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message: Please see the cleanup tag for the analysis of the current article sourcing. Please feel free to revert this tagging edit, if you can find a source that replaces the broken URL used for 52 of the 57 lines; however, then re-add the single source and the ref improve science article tags, because even when the link to this one ubiquitous web source is repaired, the article remains poorly sourced for its relying so much on it, for having entries without any sources, and for beginning a trend of OR in choosing primary sources to support entries. Le Prof  71.239.87.100 (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing issues 

message: For many of the listed experiments, multiple instruments have been fielded in different years, with very different properties.  Examples are SPT-SZ vs. SPTpol, ACT vs. ACTpol, POLARBEAR vs. POLARBEAR2, and also COBE-DMR vs. COBE-DIRBE vs. COBE-FIRAS.  These are different enough that it would be worth having separate sub-rows for each.  I'll look into whether there's a way to do this...  any other opinions? --Amble (talk) 04:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Following from my comment above, I think it makes sense to adopt a "one article, one line" approach here (and, as per my edits to BICEP and Keck Array, I think that most same-project upgrades should only be discussed in one article unless there's enough content to justify multiple ones). Most of the upgrades you are describing are upgrades that are re-using the same infrastructure but are implementing new detectors; the others are using different same-generation detectors with the same telescope. Either way, they're not really new instruments, so I think they should be covered in the same article. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I see the appeal of "one article, one line", but in many cases the hardware is quite different, with different underlying technology and observing bands, and in most cases there's only partial membership overlap.  For example, BICEP1 vs. BICEP2 were completely different detector technology with different frequency bands, different readout electronics, with some but not all of the same people.  It makes it very difficult to represent in summary table form.  In some cases, like SPT-SZ vs. SPT-pol, the science targets are also quite different.  In the case of COBE there were three completely different instruments doing different things, sharing the same satellite platform.  I think the ideal would be to have separate lines so that we can give the summary details of each, but with grouping of rows.  Not sure whether this is technically possible. --Amble (talk) 23:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple instruments 

message: The following are in the current table at LAMBDA, but don't currently appear here: QMASK (joint data; not an expt); BICEP2; Keck Array; ACTpol (ACT upgrade); SPTpol (SPT upgrade); Quijote; COMPASS; PIPER; TRIS; Mustang; Mustang-2. --Amble (talk) 01:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Remaining to add: ACTpol (ACT upgrade); SPTpol (SPT upgrade); Mustang-2. --Amble (talk) 00:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Others to consider, EPIC, PIXIE, LightBird, GroundBird, COrE, SPT-3g, CMB-S4. --Amble (talk) 02:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not included from LAMBDA 

message: The article lede currently has "CBI, which made high-resolution observations and obtained the first E-mode polarization spectrum;" with a citation needed tag.  This statement is debatable; DASI showed an EE spectrum, but didn't really have the signal-to-noise to characterize its shape.  Any opinions on dropping this phrase?  --Amble (talk) 00:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  CBI and E-mode power spectrum