Talk:Tooth & Nail Records

message: When putting this as a band's label under their band pages, should they all say Tooth and Nail, or Tooth and Nail Records? Same goes for Solid State. I'm trying to keep them all consistent, and realized they're all different and I should get a consensus before changing all of them.
Opinions?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lorenwade (talk • contribs) 05:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistency 

message: ok Ivoryline has already had an album come out, and we still don't have a page for them i'm going to put some information up about them so someone can work on their page. http://www.alternative2punk.com/2008/01/ivoryline-there-came-lion-advance.html this is about their genre and stuff. This has more information about the bandhttp://billboard.com/bbcom/bio/index.jsp?pid=968670 I will update more later.User:Rockismorethanmusic  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.1 (talk) 22:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: IvoryLine

message: On Mae's page there is an interview were mae saids that tooth & nail is just a alternative mainstream recored label now.User:Rockismorethanmusic  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.22.138 (talk) 13:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Tooth and Nail still a christian record label?

message: The first release on Tooth & Nail was a reissue of "Nailed" by The Crucified.
:That's not true.  It was "Pet the Fish" by Wish for Eden.  "Nailed" was one of the early releases, but  not the first.--Velvet elvis81 18:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Is Mae signed to Tooth & Nail or not? On Tooth & Nail's website, Mae is listed as one of their artists, so I would assume they are... 67.65.45.119 01:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mae

message: Please stop putting Solid State bands on the Tooth & Nail roster. Unless is specifically states that bands are featured on both rosters(like Underoath), then don't assume that just because they are on Solid State, that they are on Tooth & Nail. AugustWinterman 18:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Solid State Bands

message: We should list what's going on with former artists, like they do at the Solid State page.  e.g., "disbanded, members in Band X" "still active on Label X" etc.--Velvet elvis81 22:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later History? 

message: I know Anberlin signed with Universal Republic, but I haven't seen in any press releases something stating one way or the other if they're still going to be on Tooth & Nail's roster at the same time. Anybody heard something on that? Roofi's Publicist 00:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anberlin

message: This space is an attempt to get people to debate the stupid war that's going on over genres.  Insert comments below.  If you don't I'm going to request locking this article and/or sanctions against the parties involved.--Velvet elvis81 (talk) 20:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An online chat archived in an absolutepunk.net message board does not qualify as a reliable source.  Furthermore, that page does not offer any "proof" that tooth & nail isn't a christian label anymore.  Rather, "Dave" merely presents the hearsay statement that "what I heard is that they're not a Christian label anymore" followed by evidence that the label sells units both in the mainstream AND christian markets.  Finally, even if we assume that they're not a "christian label" (whatever that means), the genre list is meant to cover what types of music they generally release.  It's possible to both not be a christian label and release music that is christian rock, christian punk, and alternative ccm.  I've requested protection of this article until we can get this worked out instead of just edit-warring.  You cannot just post some link and then assume the discussion is over.  You must wait until consensus is reached before making changes.  That's what the talk page is for.--Velvet elvis81 (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Furthermore, T&N--as it clearly mentions in the article--is part of the EMI Christian Music Group.  Note the operative word "CHRISTIAN."  It's hard to deny something that's clearly part of the label's business model.  Regardless, like I said above, whether or not it's a so-called "Christian label" has little to nothing to do with what type of music it releases and what the genre should be.--Velvet elvis81 (talk) 22:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: This has been mentioned a number of times, but I wanted to put it on the talk page because people keep coming by and changing it:  by the time FSF broke up Chris Carraba had been out of the band for something like five years.  Therefore, we're not going to list Dashboard Confessional in the what members are doing now parenthetical after that band.--Velvet elvis81 (talk) 07:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Seems Forever 

message: For the past few months a number of bands have been appearing, disappearing and reappearing again on the current artists list: The Good Day Band, Great Whisper, Look at Violence, Poema, Queens Club, and Write This Down. Is this vandelism or fact? I know T&N is painfully slow to update thier website (Anberlin left more than 2 years ago but are still in the current artist section of the site), so is it possible these bands have negotiated contracts with the label and it just hasn't made a press release yet?
Also, someone has posted that a band called Behold, the Conqueror! was signed to T&N, but they are not featured on the current or former artist list of T&N's website. Can anyone confirm or deny?
--Spencerz (talk) 04:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Bands? 

message: Why are they listed as on hiatus. Are you talking about them being on the lable or as a band. Because I just saw them live on Saturday in Atlantic City and they where together as the openign act for Weezer. So they are still preforming--68.81.176.14 (talk) 12:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  MewithoutYou 

message: Someone removed Underoath's most recent Grammy nomination for the awards section on the page. Any reason why?
Also would it be possible to add some of their Dove Awards and nominations to the awards section?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.43.96 (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was Underoath's grammy nomination removed from the Awards section? 

message: Over the past couple of weeks (around the time I added Swimming With Dolphins to the artist list), users have added Come September, From Indian Lakes, I Am Empire, Hyland, and Icon for Hire to the list. I only have citations for Icon for Hire () and Hyland (
). Does anybody know about the others? I'm going to assume none of them are actually signed to T&N until I see a source. Free (talk)  13:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many New Bands 

message: http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/indies/1551725/capitol-christian-music-group-completes-acquisition-of-tooth-nails begins "The Capitol Christian Music Group has completed its acquisition of Christian rock label Tooth & Nail's catalog, as well as the catalogs of the label's imprints, BEC Recordings and Solid State Recordings" but that's already discussed in the Structure section using http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/116306/ccmg-purchases-tooth-nail-catalog. That report goes on to state that Ebel will "re launch TOOTH & NAIL as an independent label group". So they were considered a Christian label until March 13, 2013 but may no longer be so. Don't use old material to support the current stated of the label. Is there a source to indicate that they still are a Christian label? Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:50, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You've missed the point. The source you have is what they were at the time of the sale a year ago. The term "independent label group" is not a genre either, it's a mode of distribution. I have no source to indicate that they want to distance themselves from the term, but you will see that others will remove the term. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:32, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Not entirely. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:50, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out-of-context 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hey @Speakfor23! I figured I'd get a jump on the discussion of the material you're adding. The major issue is that the article doesn't support the assertion that Knott was a co-founder. While it was "originally conceived" as a joint venture, Knott "bowed out". There is nothing to suggest he bowed out after founding T&N, and we can't assume that's what it means (WP:V). The fact he released an album doesn't mean he was a co-founder, just that he released an album. I haven't been able to find a source that's clearer, but if you do drop it here and we can discuss! glman (talk) 03:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Knott