Talk:Late-onset hypogonadism

message: Is this a recognised condition in younger men, hence a normal or early onset is supposed to exist? 2.28.151.167 (talk) 09:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Why "Late Onset"?

message: Some expert help is needed with this article as to what extent male menopause is even recognized as a clinical entity. Also one editor has claimed that "Regardless of nomenclature, doctors agree that the loss of hormones can be a painful and often life-altering affliction, whether it is experienced by women or men." First off, this is a Wikipedia weasel phrase... plus I don't think that doctors agree with this statement.  All the doctors I have talked to say that male menopause does not exist. Help please? Invertzoo (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expert help

message: Why is his picture randomly displayed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.232.128.10 (talk) 18:46, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly because the film "Splash", which he starred in, is a remake of "Mr Peabody and the Mermaid", a film revolving around the "male menopause", though it seems a bit tenuous. 2.28.151.167 (talk) 09:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Tom Hanks

message: This article has problems with NPV, amongst other things.Invertzoo (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

message: It's my first Wiki entry any feedback and edits appreciated. Especially regarding references... Going to mess with it more tomorrow.  Cleaned up somebody esle's external refs as a bulleted list. Is this convention?
Hacel 19:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Update 

message: I, perhaps temporarily, moved this content on "Treatments" to ths page:
*Acupuncture, Chinese medicine, herbal treatments, 
The reason is that it is controversial, and I think a discussion of it is needed before displaying it, because such alternative medicine is doubted to have any positive effects. The facts are referenced, that is true, but the link didn't lead to any page where this certain information was found. Rather, it directed to an offering to buy a book, and it feels unnecessary to buy a whole book just to check for its references. Every such information ultimately needs references to experimental trials, but I couldn't find any such study, linking alternative medicine and andropause together when searching the NCBI databases. Perhaps I didn't search accurately enough. Perhaps that study wasn't puplished yet.
Anyhow, if you want the claim republished in the article, please give me directions to any studies indicating the effectiveness of such effects. Mikael Häggström 13:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acupuncture, Chinese medicine, herbal treatments,  

message: One of the more serious issues is, I believe, that much of the evidence is only available from commercial corporations that have been working on this and other issues, funding the research and publishing results.
Given the problems with posting of 'commercially oriented' materials it becomes a real problem. The only ways I can see to present their information is either break copyright or post links to these commercial sites.
I have no idea how we can present the clinical evidence and not, in some way, reference the organisations that supply that evidence - whatever their avowed objective (foundations, pure research funded via the public purse, commercial enterprises, government, etc.).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lance1949 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Much of the 'evidence' is available only from commercial organisation 

message: Women do not experience "complete" shutdown of the reproductive system at menopause, and this statement is a gross exaggeration. In both men and women, the gametes and sex hormones decline, but the reproductive system does not totally shut down. The eggs are still viable in menopausal women, as are the sperm in middle-aged men. It's just that in menopause, the woman's estrogen is too low to effectively carry the baby, just as in andropause the man's testosterone is too low to for him to become erect in many cases and deliver the sperm. This (in my view) incorrect and somewhat sexist statement is mentioned repeatedly throughout the article. I am no expert on this topic, but I think this should be edited.--Greenhplover (talk) 01:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Exaggeration

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: User:Plmokg22345 please discuss your concerns here.  Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 03:09, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: primary source.  Not valuable for health content.  A link to a no-longer-existent chat is not helpful.  Again, see the actual  definitions in MEDRS.  The Rao paper, is one where "authors directly participated in the research or documented their personal experiences. They examined the patients, injected the rats, filled the test tubes, or at least supervised those who did."  The giveaway is the "Materials and Methods" section where they describe the actual experiments they did.   If a review paper has such a section, they will describe how they selected papers to include, and nothing more. Jytdog (talk) 16:52, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

text: now being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#articles_related_to_Ageing Jytdog (talk) 18:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Testosterone levels 

message: This article was redirected to Late-onset hypogonadism, but I think there may be enough material to at least consider a merge. In particular, for non-human mammals see Lincoln (2002). Thank you. Praemonitus (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the answer is a unilateral no without discussion. Very well. Note that this page was the redirect source for Irritable male syndrome and indirectly from the Grumpy Old Men page, yet contains no mention of these likely search terms. Wikipedia should be more helpful to those seeking information of this nature. Praemonitus (talk) 02:58, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not clear to me what your complaint is. What is it? Jytdog (talk) 04:32, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  If I search for a term in an encyclopedia and reach a page, I expect that specific term to be discussed in some form, even if just to say it's a colloquial name suggested to be related in some manner to the condition. Why is that unclear? Grandma goes looking for "grumpy old man". What does she find out? She's directed to "Irritable male syndrome" and ends up on this page, but it says nothing about moodiness or argumentative behavior in older males. Instead, she wanders off and looks for other sources.  Praemonitus (talk) 05:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: well there are huge issues about Wikipedia's search function that this raises, that go way beyond this particular article.  The whole "irritable male syndrome" applied to humans is basically pseudoscience at worst and mogrel pop science at best (on the level of bullshit of "we only use 10% of our brains" which is a neuromyth), and we don't want to feed Grandma pseudoscience.  I tried to remove anything that would lead her there. Jytdog (talk) 06:22, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Late-onset hypogonadism 

message: Because of life-threatening side effects, a hormone therapy is not recommended in the medical world: Marc B. Garnick. Testosterone Replacement Therapy Faces FDA Scrutiny. In: JAMA. 313, 2015, page 563 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2042936 Maybe U.S. doctors recommend hormone therapies in that case; European doctors don't.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:8C:4C6B:DD00:89A:6558:226B:3F30 (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caution: Hormone therapy not recommended 

message: Let's do something about it. 85.193.242.185 (talk) 13:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Both options are considered correct. But aging is formed in compliance with the rules of using "-ing".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.78.14.206 (talk) 19:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It is like saying that both "color" and "colour" are correct. I am aware of the underlying grammar. However, we shouldn't mix British and American English - look here. 85.193.242.185 (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "'''aging'''" (used 9 times), or "'''ageing'''" (used 4 times)?