Talk:Touch rugby

message: Right I was very bold, and have made wholesale changes. Sorry but the whole thing was a mess. Grinner 14:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work!!! lord knows i couldn't have been bothered doing that :) POds 03:38, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh man... i wouldn't have created 'touch rugby union'. POds 05:48, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambig

message: i made a lot of work to translate the french page and you doesn't want it :(
and touch rugby and touch football is the same sport, we have the same rules(the FIT) only australian calls that sport touch football the french english etc... call it touch rugby so please return back the old version of rules
Goldensun 15:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Dont worry mate, i took all your hard translated text and replaced the "basics section" + a few others, with what you wrote. Have a look, i think it looks totaly grovey now!!! That is if you can confirm your translations was of the rules which are played in france which are played under FIT rules. :) Then all makes sense and i can get on with my life + wiki :) POds 03:46, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thx to Mister Grinner for deleting the work 

message: where do you find the new article? i know i put a lot of HTML but i can't do it without that because there a lot of levels(4 or 5) si i must do it the more clearly as i can
for Pods i put the rucks and mauls etc... you deleted by your edition
Goldensun 07:18, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry? What article are you refering too? An article was moved to touch rugby union but i am putting it up for deletion, because its only going to encourage two touch rugby articles and there is no reason to have two. The information you wrote about the rules of touch rugby are in the main page of which Touch rugby redirects to. I dont understand what your saying about the rules? POds 05:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is why the original Touch football (rugby league) was created. The mis-named Touch rugby was used for touch football, then someone came along and changed it to what is currently in the touch rugby union article - this seemed to indicate that there was a different sort of touch, one played by union pepple. So is there or not? --Paul 06:04, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've seen the wallabies play a slightly modified form in training, in the background of news clips on sports tonight. Instead of playing the ball, they slow down, drop and place the ball, much like in a ruck in rugby. I'm not sure how common this is. Anyway, such a variant would not warrent its own article, thats why i suggest making touch rugby the article for all forms of touch rugby. Much like how the rugby football article discusses rugby league and rugby union and the common rules between the two. Touch rugby should try do a similar thing. POds 16:43, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

text: for POds i speak about the touch rugby article(without redirect) there is a lot of HTML i see you want to transfer the touch football(rugby union) to touch rugby and i approuved it when you edit,before the 6 September you deleting no ruck no mauls and lineouts, i correct that mistake
Confused? At 14:05, 9 September 2005 PBS (Revert to last coherent version). The article was wound back to 23:47, 21 August 2005 POds. It has been slightly modified since to remove the statments that the page is about a Rugby Union version of Touch Rugby because the versions of touch rugby are very similar and as the game is not fully codefied elements of both codes are mixed in together. 
I think this page should remain what it is at the moment with an exlpanation that the term is used to cover various forms of non tackling Rugby from the informal training session type and the codefied versions like FIT. In other words a cross between a desctiption, a list and a disambiguation page with links to pages about FIT and other forms of the game which have a code and competitions etc. PBS 14:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree POds 07:05, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  September 6 2005

message: Most of the Text added today is about FIT which is already covered by Touch football (rugby league). See these web sites for other versions of the game and there are many more versions which may or may not be documented. Eg:
*  WWRU Rouch Rugby Challange with 12 players per team - with at least four women per team
* USA Rugby - Youth Laws for 1997. 
* RFU  For season 2002/2003: see section NON-CONTACT MINI RUGBY UNDER 8
So I do not think this page should be dominated by the FIT version as there is already a FIR page. PBS 12:41, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree POds 07:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rules 12 September

message: As the sport is not fully codified the rules vary depending on who is playing it. The biggest obstacle for any one ruling body defining a set of rules which everyone could agree on are based on the traditional split between Rugby League and Rugby Union. The International Rugby Board is unlikely to recognise any Rugby body which does not recognise it as the overall governing body of the sport (No surprises there! See the history of the English RFU and FIRA - Association of European Rugby). There is also no surprise that a body like the Federation of International Touch (FIT) set up to promote a game derived from Rugby league is unlikely to recognise that the IRB is its governing body. However never say never and in the future a deal may emerge (along the lines of the IRB will reconginse FIT as the governing body of Touch for all Union competitions if FIT recognises that IRB is the overall governing body of the sport as was done with FIRA. But I suspect The Schism between league and union will have to narrow further before this happens.
Meanwile of the versions of Touch Rugby which have been codefied, it seems that the FIT version is the further down the road to being accepted as the wide spread international verson even if not all the competitions which play by its rules recognise FIT as the governing body. But because of The Schism, if any body like the RFU which does recognise the IRB (see History of rugby union), is going to promote a touch rugby game, it can do so with rules which may be similar to FIT but which can differer in some respects to suit what ever reasons they are promoting the game because for them is an appendage to Rugby Union.
This state of affairs is nothing new and most new sports go through this metamorphism, it is just that any sport which is in anyway related to Rugby is likely to have its metamorphis mixed up by "The Schism". This schism is alive an well on Wikipedia, as the the early edits on the Rugby football page and the History of rugby union testify to! --PBS 13:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The politics

message: There is no one game of Football in the world. Each region tends to shorten the name to the major version of Football played in their region. For example in Europe with the exception of Ireland, football is a short form of Association Football. In the USA the game referred to as Football is in the rest of the world known as American Football or Gridiron. In New Zealand Football is short for Rugby Football and for most of the population if they need to be more specific Football and League. Australia is more complicated and I get confused but if you want to know I am sure that an Australian will be happy to fill in the details.
The current FIT organisation can trace its roots back to 1979 when Queensland Touch was formed in the Australian state of Queensland (See History of Australian Touch).  FIT has chosen not to include the word Rugby in its title ((see History of FIT). PBS 13:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Name

message: I post the e-mail to the FIT here Lectonar
email to the FIT
Hello i'm a french player, in my country our sport is calling touch rugby. I work on wikipedia did you know that encyclopedia. We have a problem to name our sport and of course to name the article: Touch rugby, touch football (rugby league).
The principal argument of the touch football (rugby league) is the sport created in australia and in australia you call that sport touch football
You can see the discution on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_rugby for touch rugby http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_football_%28rugby_league%29 for touch football (rugby league)
Can you help us please(sorry for my english) Quentin Goldensun 18:25, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Email

message: # doesnt work
# nothing to say about this
# is FIT
# is FIT
Just incase your trying to distance this page from FIT. It may be more useful for these links to exist on touch football (rugby league), unless you've got them there for a reason? POds 16:42, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: In the United States, touch is usually played following pre-1967 Rugby League rules, Is there a source for this as this link (USA Rugby - Youth Laws for 1997) seems to be describing a different version? --PBS 10:09, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: USA

message: : I think the best solution is to merge touch football (rugby league) in to this page. Delete touch football (rugby league) and use this page for ALL forms of touch rugby, until there are at least two very strong derivitives of touch rugby on the same page that warrent a split! - Which is not the current case! POds 04:37, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I totaly agree with you it's only a question of term the european touch rugby depends on FIT rules as already sayed you can see this map to be sure  Goldensun 15:42, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merge with [[Touch football (rugby league)]]

message: I am sorry but this page has nothing to do with "touch rugby". I agree on the fact that there are various way of playing non contact rugby style of game with various rules, number of player etc...
However, the so called "touch rugby" game has an international federation: FIT, and well defined rules.
Plus that photo does not do any favour to the sport. 6 people playing in plain what tshirt in a field...come on...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.169.224.49 (talk) 14:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: FIT has its own page see Touch football (rugby league) -- PBS (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: FIT