Talk:1990 Croatian parliamentary election

message: Anoyingly, Hrvatska u Izborima 90 doesn't expand any of the initials.  My guess would be that SS-SSH is the Socialist Alliance with the Social Democrats of Croatia, that HDS is the Croatian Democratic Party and the SDS is the Serbian Democratic Party but not being sure I decided to leav it for someone who is more sure to expand them. Dejvid 20:11, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What do the initials stand for?

message: ::Jesus what a freak show..."leaders of Croatian Spring" were not anti-Communists. They WERE communists. Savka was the Prime minister, for crying out loud. I corrected it to  "liberal" communists, because later on, in 1992, they have formed Croatian people's party, that is the party of liberal-democraty.
:::Savka and Tripalo were Communists in 1971, perhaps they even considered themselves to be Communists in 1990, but they definitely didn't campaign under that banner in 1990. Calling them "liberal Communists" in context of 1990 elections is wrong. --Raoul DMR 07:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on that, that the banner of "liberal communists"  is wrong for KNS on elections in 1990, but their program wan't anticommunist nor nationalist. That is missleadning and false. That was the coalition of liberal, leftish and mild national parties or groups. That is why they called themselves "The Accord". Savka and Tripalo later on created another liberal party (Gotovac, also a member of The Accord created first non-communist party - Croatian Social Liberals in 1989), HKDU was also created from the Accord and HDS supported  HDZ later on. Also, a small group of Croatian Social Democrats joyined SDP in 1994. I say it again, calling them anti-communist (just because they represented themselves against Racan's "reformed communists") is wrong, and calling them nationalists is missleading (because the "national" idea was the main catch of HDZ). I would recommend to write liberals and populars. See very good aricle about that Coalition of People's Accord--Marko Jurcic 13:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Savka and Tripalo

message: Just a quick heads-up: DIP 1990 a/b anchors do not seem to work - a trivial matter I'd normally fix myself but I'm not 100% sure what would be the best way... GregorB (talk) 11:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - case of parameter-misplaced designator a/b.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref anchors 

message: Parliamentary elections were held in the Socialist Republic of Croatia
:Part of SFRY then - should be explained for context.
Those were the first free and multiparty elections held in Croatia since 1938, and the first such elections for the Croatian Parliament since 1913.
:Maybe mention the legalization of political parties as an immediately preceding event?
elected Franjo Tuđman
:...president of the HDZ.
as well as growing ethnic tensions between Croats and Serbs
:True, but it would be nice to introduce a broader context of the Yugoslav crisis: not just Croats and Serbs, but Slovenes too, or generally "separatists" vs "unionists".
crossed the party lines
:Perhaps not the best wording: this is simply a consequence of the then-new multi-party system, not a transgressive event in an already established multi-party democracy.
Intro has been changed today - no opinion on that at the moment. Will provide more comments later. GregorB (talk) 16:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries, RL intervened over here as well. Will look into the first item and add what can be sourced. The second one is directly supported by a RS.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

text: How about adding a table with a total number of votes that each party received for all 3 councils? Tzowu (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the number of councils, two rounds of voting, the fact that not every party ran in every constituency (only SKH-SDP did so) and the electoral system where some constituencies had the 2nd round, and the others did not, and even those which did - conceivably did not have the runoff for all three councils - I firmly believe the table would not generate anything resembling useful information. There already is the total number of votes cast and percentages by council by round by party in the article which is probably what the readers are after anyway.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: * Missing is the infamous "party of dangerous intentions" remark by Račan - IIRC he was commenting on the first HDZ convention in Feb 1990. The convention and its aftermath could be given a paragraph.
* "rejecting the arbitrary rule and corruption that many Croatians associated with 45 years of communist domination" - OK if the source says so, but I don't think the 1990 election had a major anti-corruption, pro-Western efficiency theme.
There is very little of substance I can complain about: the article is well-written, well-organized and above all thorough in all aspects.
Sorry for the delay, I got badly sidetracked and nearly forgot about having started this. (I suppose one could say 90% of what I do here is one huge diversion anyway. :-) ) GregorB (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries, RL intervened over here as well. Will look into the first item and add what can be sourced. The second one is directly supported by a RS.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

text: How about adding a table with a total number of votes that each party received for all 3 councils? Tzowu (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the number of councils, two rounds of voting, the fact that not every party ran in every constituency (only SKH-SDP did so) and the electoral system where some constituencies had the 2nd round, and the others did not, and even those which did - conceivably did not have the runoff for all three councils - I firmly believe the table would not generate anything resembling useful information. There already is the total number of votes cast and percentages by council by round by party in the article which is probably what the readers are after anyway.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Part II

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