Talk:British Rail Class 180

message: There is a discussion about the naming convention to use for articles about British locomotive and multiple unit classes at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (British railway locomotive and multiple unit classes). Your comments are more than welcome. Thryduulf 22:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming convention

message: What needs to be done to clean up this article? --Fuelboy 13:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Regarding use on TransPennine Express Manchester to Scotland services - the units will not be able to run at 125mph on this route, as non-tilt rolling stock on the WCML is limited to 110mph.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.144.251.46 (talk) 09:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future operations 

message: Regarding Northern, they currently have 2 units and will get a 3rd. The quote that Northern is currently training its driver trainers is pretty common sense really and does not require citation in my opinion. Who else will train the drivers to drive the trains apart from the driver trainers? I added the "Northern" bit on. This was purely fact based and was edited by someone with relevant citation. Since then, things have been edited again and items deleted for no reason. (84.69.246.61 (talk) 11:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future operations 

message: The article doesn't tell me. All we have are statements that trains "were to be used" or are proposed to be used. As I write this, are any 180s in regular passenger-carrying service? 81.158.2.229 (talk) 01:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And will there be any in service anywhere once that HST arrives? Basically, what I'm asking for is something a bit more concrete than proposals. If there isn't anything more concrete, then that should be said. I ought to be able to look at this article at any time and get an idea of where this train is being used right now. 81.158.2.229 (talk) 16:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article clearly states (or at least did once) that all Adelantes will be withdrawn from FGW once the EMT HST arrives later this year. To be honest, nothing much has been confirmed so it is all speculation anyway! Btline (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, are any 180s actually in use right now? 

message: northern has 4 class 180 in warm storage at present with a viev to using them on services to huddersfield, manchester airport and blackpool they will operate from the manchester and liverpools depots if they come into service, at present they are being held back as they are in discussions with aslef over training and safety issues of the units.86.26.49.199 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 18:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  northern rail 

message: I've reorganised the article, addding some stuff and also removing some stuff to. Operations are now by region, there are new sections for technical stuff.
Some of the links are problematic and have gone dead - Train operating companies tend to spring clean their websites it seems...
The article probably needs more references (it does).
Hope the tidy meets with your approval.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by FengRail (talk • contribs) 03:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: tidy

message: This section makes some claims regarding reliability of the units, as well as other uncited info. such as what FGW planned to do. 
It would be helpful if whoever added it could provide references - as we can't just write what companies intentions were without references - as far as I know all this could have been made up. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.43.12 (talk) 12:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: section [[British_Rail_Class_180#South-West_England]]

message: removed this from the end of British_Rail_Class_180#South-West_England ie http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_180&diff=280116275&oldid=280105482 
"The final 3 units went off-lease on 27th March 2009."
I understand this must be about the 3 FGW western units - but what exactly does 'off lease mean' does it mean they are inactive, or moved somewhere else - also references please ..FengRail (talk) 00:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 3 FGW units

message: The figures in the section titled 'Fleet Details' (between 'Future Operations' and 'References') is, I believe, inaccurate.
I added up the number of Class 180s listed (6 + 3 + 2 + 2) which only came to 13 yet the 'information pane' on the fleet says there are 14 Class 180s, not 13.
I'm not a total expert on Wikipedia but I'm certain that I haven't missed anything in the article to say that 1 isn't around or anything.
Any chance someone could please look into this?
Many Thanks!
TXC (talk) 03:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would appear that trainset number 180101 is unaccounted for. NRTurner (talk) 10:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Inaccuracy 

message: The article says
"Grand Central renamed their units as Zephyrs leading some enthusiasts to nickname the units A to Z.[5]"
However this statement doesn't seem to be consistent with the only reference to Zephyr I can find on the Grand Central web site, which in the launch edition of the Grand Central Magazine says quite clearly that Zephyr is a named train (the 0641 departure from Sunderland). 
http://www.grandcentralrail.co.uk/GCM_Issue1.pdf
"Grand Central runs two named trains. The Zephyr leaves from Sunderland on Monday-Friday mornings at 06:41. The northbound departure at 16.50 runs as The 21st Century Limited. The naming is a homage to the American 20th Century Limited, now run as the Lake Shore Limited by Amtrak between New York and Chicago."
I would simply have removed the claim, but it is supported by a reference so I'm reluncant to do so immediately.  Is anyone here in a position to verify the reference to Today's Railway?
Roy Badami (talk) 17:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't seen Today's Railways but I see other railway magazines and I don't think I have seen any suggestion there or anywhere else that these trains are now being called Zephyrs. As you say, it seems to be a confusion with one of Grand Central's named trains. I am inclined to delete the sentence altogether unless somebody comes up with an authoritative quote. Alarics (talk) 12:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason I was reluctant to delete this straight off is that a reference was given, which I haven't had the opportunity to check.  I am highly skeptical of the claim, though, even if it was reported in the railway press.  Given the Grand Central literature I cite above that clearly identifies Zephyr as a named train, and given no one has expressed an opinion to the contrary, I'm going to remove this claim from the article.Roy Badami (talk) 15:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. We can always re-insert later it if it turns out to be true after all. Alarics (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, probably the right approach. Even if it's true it shouldn't be in the lead anyway, but under "Grand Central". Alzarian16 (talk) 19:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zephyr 

message: Hi. Just to let you know, the Commons category for Class 180s is now completely sorted by operator and livery. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Commons images

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I removed some content from the East Coast section because the sentence was not supported by the given reference. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Coast services 

message: On social media platforms, there is a meme about the Class 180 called 'You'll be going nowhere'. 
This meme originated from the Class 180 Faults and Failures video made by Spa Films in 2003, presented by Paul Tyreman. Since it was on UTube, people started using the you'll be going nowhere meme.
Should this be a section for this page? 2A00:23C7:8D0E:1001:4C85:5A3C:4B77:B1A6 (talk) 15:59, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this. It could be placed into an “In popular culture” section of the article. Slender (talk) 10:08, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The you'll be going nowhere meme 

message: I've now twice removed the claims of unit 180110 being shortened to 4 cars as both instances of these claims being added were unsourced. I don't care that the claim is included, as long as a reliable source is provided. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 21:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that @Mattdaviesfsic‎ has located a reliable source in a Railways Illustrated article, that doesn't go against WP:UGC. Danners430 (talk) 10:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  180110 

message: On EMR’s website they have the 180 listed under their fleet, do they need to be added here as an operator? >> https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/intercity RJ2677 (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No, somebody at EMR needs to remember to take it off their website. XAM2175 (T) 19:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Midlands??