Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sega

message: Greetings. I was over on tcrf's article for Sega Rally Championship and noticed the release dates were pulled from here on Wikipedia. I decided to cross-reference these release dates with SegaRetro and I came across some conflicting information. The "Sega Arcade History" book published by  Famitsu DC page 135 states Sega Rally Championship would have been released in Japan in February 1995 Famitsu DC "Sega Arcade History", Enterbrain Page 135. Tracing back the edits of the page reveals a specific edit to the dates for the page . After looking at other contributions by  the same address, a pattern forms. They began arbitrarily changing dates of Sega racing titles to specific dates without so much as a single reference. OutRunners, GP Rider, Out Run, Cool Riders, Daytona USA, Sega Rally 2, and Sega Rally Championship were all altered. Pages such as Cool Riders () have had these edits reverted already, but I wanted to leave this information here for the Sega task force. I'd take care of it myself, but I feel the scope has broadened from a single article and would feel more confident leaving this in your capable hands. --Biggestsonicfan (talk) 20:55, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: would you happen to know anything about this? I don't have time to take a look and you're probably the #1 Sega expert on this site. JOEBRO64 23:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As I look at this, a lot of it looks like random IP edits that are just insensible.  If you think about it as well, it would have been difficult for there to be a specific release date for arcade games, especially as early as the 1980s.  Some of these are on articles I improved, and I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t been keeping up a lot lately with these kinds of edits in the interim.  I don’t have a lot of time and I’m focused on neatening up Sega CD before it’s the TFA for the 13th, but after that I can try to trawl through these. Red Phoenix talk 01:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega Racing Game Release Dates Without Sources 

message: This is strangely pretty close, believe it or not.  I'm doing a revamp of Sega Technical Institute right now (thanks Joebro for getting me interested with the new info you found) and may have an FA run at it when it's done; amount of sources will likely be the limiting factor there.  The Sonic articles, well, they're the Sonic articles and they're in pretty good shape.  The rest isn't as far as it looks.
As I've been doing this revamp, I've found a lot about each game's development in Ken Horowitz' book, Playing at the Next Level: A History of American Sega Games - minus "Die Hard Arcade", but I know of at least one Retro Gamer article on that game.  This would allow each one to get a Development section.  Taking a look through SegaRetro as well, each seems to have a good deal of reception, enough so that I'm even thinking I could spin out an article on Dick Tracy from its current location with a bunch of others at Dick Tracy (video game). If anyone has one or more on these they'd like to collaborate on, give me a shout. Red Phoenix talk 02:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: , I'd love to work on Comix Zone. JOEBRO64 16:15, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool.  I remember you offering once before, and this time I'll have to take you up on it.  I'm still focusing on Sega Technical Institute at the moment, but I will have to do development for Comix Zone as part of it, and will likely build it in Comix Zone and trim it for STI's article.  Ref section in the SegaRetro article for the game looks like it has a ton of reviews.  Red Phoenix talk 02:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega Technical Institute good/featured topic? 

message: Not sure if anyone still reads this, but I just had this thought.  Sonic Origins Plus releases on June 23, and look how close we are to having every game in the compilation to GA or better.  Skeptical that this would qualify as a Good Topic, but I thought this would be kinda cool to have the remaining 3 (or 4 if you count Sonic Origins) articles to GA before the game releases.  I've already started on Sonic Drift. Red Phoenix talk 01:18, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh… so Sonic Drift turned into Maestro2016 cleanup.  Most of the sources for development were badly misrepresented and the section has needed extensive gutting. Red Phoenix talk 23:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Sonic Origins Plus topic before June 23?

message: Two Sonic games were proposed for merging here. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Discussion 

message: Hi all, I'm looking for any feedback at the FAC‎ for Daytona USA. Any and all feedback is welcomed and appreciated. Red Phoenix talk 01:32, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC feedback request 

message: There are some minor things to be done on the Sega Saturn version. While the article itself talks about the developer Working Designs as being the publisher of the game I am having a lot of trouble finding reliable sources for a lot of things. If anyone has a copy of the manual for the version published by Spaz, please post the page numbers the references are on so it can be noted as a source to prevent removal of information. 
- Items that need addressing.
1. In the USA release of Sega Ages in order to get all three games to fit on one CD some cuts had to be made to the sound track. Outrun had its original arcade tracks removed. The only thing that was kept in was the arranged sound. Because of the way the music sounded it seemed appropriate for driving after all according to them. 
2. The three games seem to have it's cheat codes modified, unreleased , disabled or unknown from Japanese versions. Later on after the release of this compilation, Working Designs actually posted a code in their hint guide section on the now defunct site that told how to enable smooth mode and some other cool things they changed. I could probably use the Wayback machine to find the information on this. 
Also speaking of codes through trial and error, at random I had an idea of mashing buttons during the Sega Logo and Sega Ages Logo with controller 2 and somehow I was able to get a dip switch menu for both After Burner 2 and Space Harrier but it did not work all the time. 
If there are any replies to this message please post on my talk page so I can come back here and continue to chime in on this. JasonHockeyGuy (talk) 05:21, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm just going to ping you, you should get a notification. Most of what you suggested is original research so we would need reliable sources to add to the article. Regarding Spaz, they were a division of Working Designs. See images of back cover of the game. TarkusABtalk/contrib 01:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega Ages Article