Talk:Acol

message: This article starts off saying it's about a road, and veers off into talking about bidding. Terribly confusing! If this is really about some bridge-related matter, it should start by saying so... -- Oliver P. 23:23, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Road confusing or not

message: I changed "ACOL" to "Acol" because it is not an acronym. EricK 21:54, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Not acronym

message: Responding to one of a suit with one of a new suit requires four cards in the suit, not five, and I have therefore reverted to the earlier wording. For example, if partner opens 1H and you have AQxx x xxxx xxxx, you will respond 1S in case partner has 4 cards in both majors or 5 hearts and 4 spades. JH 19:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Response suit length

message: I'm using Firefox on OSX and I can't see the "suit" symbols - all I see are coloured vertical or horizontal bars (e.g. 2| instead of 2<heart symbol>). This makes the page impossible to understand. Can anyone tell me how I can fix my browser? It works with Safari but I'd like for it to also work on Firefox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.138.27 (talk) 13:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Browser problem

message: I have pointed out in 3.7 Opener's suit rebid after one-level opening that this rebid shows at least five cards, since this is an important distinction from five card major systems.  My very first Wikipedia contribution!  Buzzilla (talk) 21:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Opener rebid

message: Is the "Standard Acol" that appears as one of the headings the same thing as the "Standard English Acol" that has been introduced a little earlier in the article? If so, then the references to "Standard Acol" should be changed to "Standard English Acol" for consistency and to avoid confusion. If not, and something more nebulous is meant, then the term "Standard Acol" would probably be better avoided, and at the very least when it appears in the text rather than as a heading the "s" of "standard" shouldn't be capitalised. JH (talk page) 20:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Standard Acol or Standard English Acol

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message: Other system (Five card major related ones, at least) use the following bids, in order to support an opening of 1 in a major, with opening 1H as example : 
* 0-5 HCP - pass
* 6-9 2H
* 10-12 "the difficult zone" - (usually) the best of 2C and 2D (new colour is forcing), else a choice between 2H and 4H, as 3H is reserved for stronger than game support
* 13-15 4H
* 16- 3H (naturally forcing at least to a game)
With 10-12 HCP the total length of the trump is considered together with the quality of the minors.
10 HCP and shortest possible supporting length - 2H can be used if no "decent" minor exists
12 HCP and a total trump length of 9 cards - 4H can be used if no "decent" minor exists
10-12 HCP and a total 10 card trump - 4H unless there also is a good reason to show a minor.
This saves space for really strong support - the 3H reply (in this example). Is this not introduced in Acol ? Boeing720 (talk) 15:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In traditional Acol, a raise from 1H to 3H shows 10-12 points and is non-forcing, a so-called "limit raise". That is a fairly fundamental part of the system, and if the bid was to show a stronger hand and so be forcing I'm not sure that you could call the system "Acol". JH (talk page) 08:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direct support of opener's major