Talk:Archy (software)

message: Having visited FSF, I find no reference to a negative judgment of Archy by FSF. Where does the "does not recommend it for software" come from, and cannot it be described in different terms, i.e. without sounding as negative? For all I care I could add: ...and Microsoft doesn't recommend it for software, either." Until such neutral statement can be implemented, I have removed the sentences. IMHO Archy is a great idea and deserves at least neutral description. --Dorthonion 07:54, 05 Aug 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: License

message: Removed the little ™s as according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks). -- Foofy 17:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Trademarks

message: Hmm, contrary to what the history seem to tell, the page is still protected as of October 18. -- Jugalator 07:09, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I left a message on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection so somebody should fix it in a bit. -- Foofy 20:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection 

message: I am removing the link to THE and LEAP because it is simply wrong.  He is confusing the Leap keys with the Command key:
:"When you want to type in a command, you hit the LEAP key and start typing the command (all commands are named) -- when you release the LEAP key the command is run."
That makes the entire article worthless, you can't make a commentary about something that you don't understand!  --Foofy 02:14, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  LEAP commentary 

message: I am about to remove the funding comment. The $2 million is closer to $1.8 million and went not to RCHI but to BZ Web for a project to design a ZUI for a major cell phone manufacturer. RCHI is pretty much a volunteer effort and has even lost many of those most knowledgeable about The Humane Interface. Nevertheless it retains some promise to provide direction for future humane computing environments. --Karpinski 22:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Funding 

message: Obviously Archy is a radical detraction from computing as we have known it now for 30 years.  There must be some criticisms of this approach to user interface design.
* Why?  To an extent Archy is just a few modifications to GNU Emacs (LEAP and COMMAND keys to eliminate modality).  Are you trying to tell us that GNU Emacs is a radical detraction? RussNelson 03:23, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be some kind of single-document editor with a CLI, that pretends to be an OS ("applications are obsolete"). Definitely not new. I'd rather say this concept is as outdated as 30-year-old Emacs. It goes back to the times when everything stored on a computer appeared as one huge chunk of data. It reduces a computer to a programmable typewriter. And it forces users to learn text commands and hotkeys instead of graphically exposing available functions.--87.162.12.32 (talk) 17:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are writing as if you never used Archy.  Perhaps you should reserve judgement? RussNelson (talk) 21:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm sure there are criticisms, just not many documented criticisms that we can link to.  This has more to do with Archy's obscurity than it's quality.  As for current interfaces being easy to use: just because it's "good enough" doesn't mean it's "good."  I think most people see Archy as a new perspective that will lead to better interfaces, not the be-all and end-all of interfaces.  :) -Foofy 14:45, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: Just reading the first paragraph, this looks like a press release---getting people hyped up with interesting abstract concepts but few details.  Obviously, there are details later on, but does not the intro sound distinctly non-wikipaedic? --N Vale (talk) 00:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmmmmmm, no, not to me.  It accurately describes the project without using marketing-style overblown language. RussNelson (talk) 02:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I've clarified what the "radically new" means. I think this is what you feel that looked like a press release. I expect that it now should look more encyclopedic. Diego (talk) 10:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the Canon Cat, for crying out loud. "Radically new?" Try "sold commercially in the 1980's."  I see some talk about a "zooming user interface" at some point in the future, but the actual software on offer is essentially a Canon Cat clone...and I can't work out how you get from the Cat to Zoomworld, either--they seem to be built on radically different paradigms, and there's little consideration of how you join them together.  This article is very press-releasey--talking up what is essentially vaporware in glowing terms.--158.111.4.26 (talk) 17:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased / Marketing-sounding voice? 

message: Haven't there been any attempts to actually make this? It seems right now it's just theoretical. Seriously someone should make an X window manager following this design. --Matthew Bauer (talk) 04:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can download the latest executable here. The project has been abandoned since in favor of its more pragmatic sibling Ubiquity, which follows many of the same design principles. Diego (talk) 20:41, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempts to Create this? 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved   (t · c) buidhe 23:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Archy →  – Not primary per pageviews, and a dab page is necessary for "Archy" 162.208.168.92 (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162.208.168.92 (talk) 04:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:NOPRIMARY, in the absence of a primary topic, the dab page should be at the base name. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 21:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 13 April 2021