Talk:Jimmy White

message: Should there not be some discussion of his drinking and probable drug use??   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.150.157 (talk) 19:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:BLP; such material would have to be included only under the policy there. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 02:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Query

message: Didn't Jimmy win another ranking tournament a couple of weeks ago? Anyone know the details? --ALargeElk 09:07, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, he won the Players Championship. I'll add it in. --Auximines 09:24, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent victory

message: He's just changed his name by deed poll to 'Jimmy Brown' (BBC).  What's the consequence for this article, then?  Hig Hertenfleurst 21:50, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless what's done, if anything, note that according to that article, it may only be a temporary change: "White, who changed his name by deed poll, plans to keep his new title for the duration of the Masters - and possibly even the World Championships". -- Jugalator 22:09, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jimmy Brown

message: I have removed the ref. to the above, as the "JImmy White" involved in it was certainly not 'the' Jimmy White and, anyhow, has no separate article page.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bigpad (talk • contribs) .
:I reverted your edit. The purpose of these disambiguation notes are that somebody may be looking for information on the men involved in the GTR and come here to see if there's anything about Jimmy White the train robber. If we don't put the message there, people may assume that the one and only Jimmy White is this one, both snooker player and train robber! BigBlueFish 11:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  :WP:BLP strongly implies that this DAB hatnote is required, not just a convenience. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]   ‹(-¿-)› 01:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: Administrator has been asked to remove neutrailty dispute. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bigpad (talk • contribs) .
:I put the NPOV template up there because the article is nauseatingly complimentary of White. It requires quite a lot of work - I could delete all the biased sentences but the article wouldn't flow properly. What's needed are some properly sourced facts demonstrating his success. BigBlueFish 11:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't go far enough. It is utterly inappropriate for an encyclopedia article to use a phrase like "the finest". — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 11:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I think the use of "the finest" is ok, as it says "the finest never to have won the World Championship". The rest of the article details the subject's achievements, which most players would die for, to illustrate this point, and the use of "is widely regarded as [the finest..]" is unquestionably true. Overall, I don't see a real POV issue here? All the best, bigpad 12:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Negatory. The breadth of the assertion is irrelevant; it is still totally beyond the pale for an encyclopedia article to label someone superlatively, even if only in reference to their local neighborhood, or that year, or among 1-armed, blind players, or whatever.  It is not for WP to say who is finest; that is solely, totally, for external sources!  This isn't even questionable, it's hard-core WP fact.   See WP:NPOV. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: PS: Patrick, no criticism whatsoever intended of your cleanup edits so far, just to be clear.  I'm not in any way attacking your edits, which I think have been a boon.  I'm simply replying here under "NPOV edit" because it's the relevant extant topic (in lieu of creating a new redundant one) for the issue I'm raising.  "Didn't go far enough" was meant to be ironic, not critical.  Hope that clarifies.   :-)   — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: PPS: Bigpad, regarding my latest edit summary: "Restoring "POV-section" tag per talk page comments; won't fight re-revert, but hope that it would be well-discussed on talk page; article DOES need improvement in this regard per WP policy/guidelines." — It's not that I want this "warning" tag to be in place, it's that I want the article text to improve here. I could "just do it", but I prefer to defer to longer-term editors of an article.  I.e., I'm asking you to fix it, more or less.   If you decline, please let me know and I'll add it to my to-do list (or if you strongly object to what I'm proposing, say so here, of course.   :-)   — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi again, no worries. Have a look at most recent edit and see if you and others think it is now toned down enough bigpad 22:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good show!  Only NPOV thing I can think of remaining is the term "gripping".  There is probably a less emotional way to say that, such as "edge-of-the-seat" or "neck-and-neck" or something (i.e. something that describes the spectators or the action, not the encyclopedia "narrator").  The rest of the material looks great! — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi again, ok see what I hope is close to a final revision. All the best, bigpad 09:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's It was really shaping up.  NB: There's no such thing as a final revision at WP!  Heh. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV dispute

message: Hi, I have edited this article substantially to cut down on the eologising tone. I hope that's enough to justify me also having removed the NPOV: ok? Regards, Patrick
:Didn't go far enough. It is utterly inappropriate for an encyclopedia article to use a phrase like "the finest". — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 11:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I think the use of "the finest" is ok, as it says "the finest never to have won the World Championship". The rest of the article details the subject's achievements, which most players would die for, to illustrate this point, and the use of "is widely regarded as [the finest..]" is unquestionably true. Overall, I don't see a real POV issue here? All the best, bigpad 12:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Negatory. The breadth of the assertion is irrelevant; it is still totally beyond the pale for an encyclopedia article to label someone superlatively, even if only in reference to their local neighborhood, or that year, or among 1-armed, blind players, or whatever.  It is not for WP to say who is finest; that is solely, totally, for external sources!  This isn't even questionable, it's hard-core WP fact.   See WP:NPOV. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: Patrick, no criticism whatsoever intended of your cleanup edits so far, just to be clear.  I'm not in any way attacking your edits, which I think have been a boon.  I'm simply replying here under "NPOV edit" because it's the relevant extant topic (in lieu of creating a new redundant one) for the issue I'm raising.  "Didn't go far enough" was meant to be ironic, not critical.  Hope that clarifies.   :-)   — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: PPS: Bigpad, regarding my latest edit summary: "Restoring "POV-section" tag per talk page comments; won't fight re-revert, but hope that it would be well-discussed on talk page; article DOES need improvement in this regard per WP policy/guidelines." — It's not that I want this "warning" tag to be in place, it's that I want the article text to improve here. I could "just do it", but I prefer to defer to longer-term editors of an article.  I.e., I'm asking you to fix it, more or less.   If you decline, please let me know and I'll add it to my to-do list (or if you strongly object to what I'm proposing, say so here, of course.   :-)   — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 18:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi again, no worries. Have a look at most recent edit and see if you and others think it is now toned down enough bigpad 22:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good show!  Only NPOV thing I can think of remaining is the term "gripping".  There is probably a less emotional way to say that, such as "edge-of-the-seat" or "neck-and-neck" or something (i.e. something that describes the spectators or the action, not the encyclopedia "narrator").  The rest of the material looks great! — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi again, ok see what I hope is close to a final revision. All the best, bigpad 09:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's It was really shaping up.  NB: There's no such thing as a final revision at WP!  Heh. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV edit

message: The introduction says he got an MBE. Further down, it says he got an OBE and then states that the three people to beat him in the world finals also got an MBE. So which is it? wjmt (talk) 14:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: MBE or OBE?

message: According to http://www.snookerlegends.co.uk/results.html, White made a 147 break at the Redhill event on the Snooker Legends Tour. (Click on the Century Breaks Link) Should this be included in his 147 count in the main article? Or is it only for 'official' competitions?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.90.134 (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The field in the infobox is only for official breaks, but it could be mentioned in the relevant section. Armbrust Talk Contribs 22:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  His 2010 147 Break 

message: I was suprised to see that this article is lacking the last two years? When will these be added?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.2 (talk) 07:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing last two years

message: this is a problem common to all players I guess but, in the mina box for where a player lost in the Worlds, UK etc, it says R2, the problem is that for example in one year, the R2 was the last 64, whilst in another R2 could be the last 32. Would it be possible to put, R2/L32 as applicable?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.3 (talk) 05:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Round lost in

message: Superfly Jimmy Snooker? That's got to be a joke, right? Superfly Jimmy Snuka is a retired wrestler. I can't find any reference to this as a nickname for Jimmy White. I'm removing it, if anyone can see a reason to reinsert it, perhaps discuss here first. Sbutler (talk) 15:36, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

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message: When did Jimmy White change his name back to “James White”? It was noted that “James Brown” was to be used for the Masters tournament and the world championship in 2005. When did he change his name back?--LeftiePete (talk) 09:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Brown 

message: Although very impressive, Shouldn't his Masters triumph, UK title and six World Championship final appearances take precedence over senior titles and Six-red titles in the lede? MattSucci (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greatest achievements. 

message: He has/has endorsed 4 games. Seems worthy of a mention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_White%27s_%27Whirlwind%27_Snooker 108.30.105.6 (talk) 08:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game mention?