Talk:Dental drill

message: I was trying to link to a page about dental drills, and realized that Wikipedia had none.  So I went and created one, despite knowing next to nothing about the subject.  If an actual dentist, or anyone who knows anything about the subject, could review and expand the article, I'd be grateful. —Ilmari Karonen 01:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You got your pic. Another one could be found here. And we really must move this article to the more appropriate term, "dental handpiece."  "Dental drill" has fallen into disfavor, even though it is the most common popular term. -Dozenist talk 16:34, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for not following up on this sooner.  I see you already included the picture in the article.  I've now created a redirect from dental handpiece, and will place a request at WP:RM to see if there's a consensus for moving the article.  How's that sound?  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 03:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your suggestion!  When you feel an article needs changing, please feel free to make whatever changes you feel are needed.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit any article by simply following the  link. You don't even need to log in!  (Although there are some reasons why you might like to...) The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold.  Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly.  If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use out the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. —Ilmari Karonen 09:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Dozenist has proposed above that this page be moved to Dental handpiece.  I've listed this at Wikipedia:Requested moves to see if the proposal has consensus support.  I personally abstain from the voting.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 03:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support, I defer to the unflappable dental knowledge of the Dozenist.  All this sounds fishy to me though; it seems like the dentists just don't like the word "drill" and the horror stories that have grown up arround it.  "Handpiece," though, sounds innocuous enough . . . until it gets in your mouth, anyway. :) - Jersyko talk 04:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments
The above "oppose" comment by Waterguy is well taken, and would seem to be consistent with the Wikipedia naming conventions. Indeed, the average user might well prefer the term "dental drill", and would certainly think of that word before the term "handpiece". However, if I may presume to know the minds of the framers of the naming conventions, they never intended to advocate for the use of an incorrect name. Perhaps a technical distinction, but a dental handpiece is not a drill, and is not used in a way that is analogous to a carpenter's drill (I will omit the technical reasons for this in the interest of brevity). One might as well call a wood router a drill simply because the average lay person would not know the proper name. This situation might present in any situation where a technique, instrument, or other modality used by a limited number of users is referenced by someone outside the user group. The only difference here is that there are a fair number of individuals who have a passing acquaintance with the handpiece. However, those brief encounters don't necessarily justify the assignment of an inappropriate name.-- Mark Bornfeld DDSdentaltwins.comBrooklyn, NY 22:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support, I defer to the unflappable dental knowledge of the Dozenist.  All this sounds fishy to me though; it seems like the dentists just don't like the word "drill" and the horror stories that have grown up arround it.  "Handpiece," though, sounds innocuous enough . . . until it gets in your mouth, anyway. :) - Jersyko talk 04:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: :Add any additional comments
The above "oppose" comment by Waterguy is well taken, and would seem to be consistent with the Wikipedia naming conventions. Indeed, the average user might well prefer the term "dental drill", and would certainly think of that word before the term "handpiece". However, if I may presume to know the minds of the framers of the naming conventions, they never intended to advocate for the use of an incorrect name. Perhaps a technical distinction, but a dental handpiece is not a drill, and is not used in a way that is analogous to a carpenter's drill (I will omit the technical reasons for this in the interest of brevity). One might as well call a wood router a drill simply because the average lay person would not know the proper name. This situation might present in any situation where a technique, instrument, or other modality used by a limited number of users is referenced by someone outside the user group. The only difference here is that there are a fair number of individuals who have a passing acquaintance with the handpiece. However, those brief encounters don't necessarily justify the assignment of an inappropriate name.-- Mark Bornfeld DDSdentaltwins.comBrooklyn, NY 22:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: There does not seem to be consensus for the requested move; if it is reached, please repost on WP:RM (I am removing the entries on that page to clear up the blacklog). I also added a sentence at the beginning of the paragraph; please feel free to revert if it is a misinterpretation. Thanks! --HappyCamper 18:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move request 

message: The article states old drills spun at "up to" 15 rpm, like hand drills.  I don't know who's working the handdrill, but 15 rpm sounds incredibly slow, and it is worded as if that were 'top speed' at the time.
Can anyone confirm / cite?
—DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 08:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speed 

message: Are the spellings actually different for a cutting burr and dental bur? Since one seems to simply be a special use of the other, I would think they'd be the same. In fact, the only reason I didn't just change it is because this section consistenly uses bur rather than burr. Could somebody knowledgeable resolve this? Kierkkadon (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bur/Burr spelling 

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