Talk:Cultural depictions of Jesus

message: Discussion of the merge is taking place on Talk:Dramatic portrayals of Jesus#Concerning_the_merger_with_Jesus_in_Pop_culture Copysan 23:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah...haven't you ever heard of it?--ikiroid | (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Theres even a related Moses action figure. Copysan 23:01, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I was not aware of that...is there a Moses in Pop culture article?--ikiroid | (talk) 03:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Merge 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:In_popular_culture
There is a category called In Popular Culture, with many other pages like this. Maybe this page should be renamed and then join this category? Dwayne Kirkwood 05:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to In Popular Culture 

message: Hey. Please stop removing valid content, eg NOFX, etc. that has been recently added.
In Regards to "In Painting", I suggest that you add examples, as this is the basis of 'in popular culture'. Please make sure they adhere to 'in popular culture' also. You mentioned paintings over the last 2000 years, not exactly popular culture. Thanks Dwayne Kirkwood 20:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Define "valid content". There are literally thousands of songs and TV shows that mention Jesus, but so what? This article is not List of everything that ever mentioned Jesus. wikipediatrix 15:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would think that shows that actually have him as a character are valid. Mentions obviously is not as valid, as you point out. Dwayne Kirkwood 02:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: NPOV specifically speaks to the elements/facts of the matter being described.  When discussing Satan, Hitler, or Saddam Hussein, there's no need to only list enough evils to equal the few virtues of the person/entity.  As long as the facts are presented in a neutral manner, they are valid for inclusion.  Omission of any other pertinent facts (such as virtuous facts for Jesus in pop culture) does not constitute an unbalanced article, it just constitutes an article in progress (as is the definition of wikipedia).  If someone feels the article is unfairly balanced in representation, then they should effect the improvement of the article by adding appropriate virtuous facts as they see fit.  ju66l3r 10:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur entirely in the sentiments of Ju and, to the extent that the latter are ostensibly orthogonal with the former, of Ikiroid as well.  Joe 03:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Valid Content & Paintings

message: There is a particular issue here, however, that I am surprised has not been addressed sooner. Does wikipedia's policy on a neutral point of view extend to the information itself, or does it only neutralize the presentation of the information? As I understand it, it only extends to the presentation of the facts, and not the facts themselves. Of course, I may be wrong, but you don't see other articles about controversial topics counting the "good" and "bad" facts and making sure they equal each other.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NPOV specifically speaks to the elements/facts of the matter being described.  When discussing Satan, Hitler, or Saddam Hussein, there's no need to only list enough evils to equal the few virtues of the person/entity.  As long as the facts are presented in a neutral manner, they are valid for inclusion.  Omission of any other pertinent facts (such as virtuous facts for Jesus in pop culture) does not constitute an unbalanced article, it just constitutes an article in progress (as is the definition of wikipedia).  If someone feels the article is unfairly balanced in representation, then they should effect the improvement of the article by adding appropriate virtuous facts as they see fit.  ju66l3r 10:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur entirely in the sentiments of Ju and, to the extent that the latter are ostensibly orthogonal with the former, of Ikiroid as well.  Joe 03:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: I never expected that this article would end up like a list of trivia, but it has. Is the fact that there is a statue of Jesus in a videogame notable? No. Why not define the pattern and effects of Jesus in these different media, instead of listing a series of random examples? Any ideas?--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 15:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article should NOT be a list of trivia 

message: The song by the Vaselines is called "Jesus Wants Me For A Sunbeam" - See The Vaselines  compilation album. The Nirvana cover is incorrectly labelled "Jesus doesn't want me for a sunbeam", as the main lyric is "Jesus doesn't want me for a Sunbeam". Still, the song is not called that, so please don't correct it as it's in reference to the Vaselines. Dwayne Kirkwood 23:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jesus Wants me for a Sunbeam

message: I see that Jesus already has three cultural pages and that a merger is under discussion.  I'd like to suggest a model for resolving this: Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc is a featured list that covers various aspects of high culture and popular culture in organized sections.  It's an approach I'm suggesting for other biographies included in Wikipedia's Core Biographies project and might be a good model for editors here.  Respectfully, Durova 18:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Cultural depictions of Jesus]]? 

message: The article name should be "Jesus Christ in popular culture". "in popular culture" is in lower case, which matches all of the other in popular culture articles (see the catagory linked at the bottom of the page. Also, there shouldn't be a fullstop at the end of the page title as there is now. If someone can get it moved that'd be great. Chopper Dave 22:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Name 

message: I have merged Dramatic Portrayals of Jesus into this page. YankeeDoodle14 06:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mege 

message: I find it weird that the section on music deals only with popular, and not classical, music. Why is there nothing about the oratorios and the stuff by guys like Bach (St. Matthew Passion, etc.), Handel's Messiah, etc.? Tom129.93.17.135 03:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: :Image:JesusActionFigure.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:JesusActionFigure.jpg

message: This article already had 3 low quality flags, I added a 4th for a rewrite. It is almost source free, disorganized and the type of junk that makes Wikipedia look like a joke. There is (surprise) a section called References. It has zero, yes zero entries in it as of this writing. It would be best to delete much of the junk unsourced content and remove the flags, than have Wikipedia carry them along. History2007 (talk) 16:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: What a piece of junk