Talk:Abraham Van Helsing

message: I planned to add information about Jesper Tillberg's books about Lennart van Helsing to the descendants section, but suddenly there is no place to add this. A lot of updates have been made since my latest, and a lot of them were good updates (like removing spoilers) but why has the entire book and theatre subsections been removed?? --Oa (talk) 21:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I revived the books and stories section and added Lennart info. The theatre section remains dead for now. I also removed info about Penny dreadful and the upcoming Tom Cruise movie, since it didn't belong in the descendants section. --Oa (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Books and plays about descendants

message: In my latest update I removed these paragraphs:
:* The TV series Angel, a spin off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer following the exploits of Buffy Summers's vampire paramour Angel, prominently featured an 18th century human vampire-hunting antagonist, based on Van Helsing and named Daniel Holtz, who, having been brought to the future by a demon seeking to avert a prophecy that Angel's son would kill him, relentlessly tracked Angelus across Europe in order to avenge the death of his wife and children, continuing his pursuit into the future even after Angel was cursed with his soul, eventually having himself killed to try and create the impression that Angel had murdered him.
:* The Journal of Professor Abraham Van Helsing* by Allen C. Kupfer is a "slim novel [that] purportedly contains an 1886 diary by the famous vampire hunter Van Helsing of Dracula fame, annotated by Kupfer's long-lost grandpa and unearthed in Kupfer's grandmother's attic" (from *Publisher's Weekly*). 
:* In the novel Department 19 by Will Hill one of the founding members of Department 19 is Abraham Van Helsing.
Not because they are irrelevant, but because they were put in the descendants section without mentioning any descendants, and I don't know what section to move them to.
--Oa (talk) 23:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted text

message: Fantasy room and Abraham's boys (which both are mentioned in the descendants section) comes from an anthology called The many faces of Van Helsing. As far as I can see, Fantasy room doesn't fit in that section since it appears to be about Abraham van Helsing himself and not his relatives. We could mention it (and/or the anthology of which it is a part) in another section instead.--Oa (talk) 13:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Took care of it. Fantasy room is now unmentioned and the anthology is mentioned together with Abraham's boys. Also the book Young Dracula (which inspired the tv series of the same name) has been added.--Oa (talk) 12:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The many faces of Van Helsing

message: The title is simular to the one above, but I'm not sure they have much to do with each other. However this seem to include characters called Edward and Jon Van Helsing.
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:--Oa 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [http://www.thesimsresource.com/storytelling/view.php?id=7448 The Van Helsing Chronicles ~PART V~]

message: "Van Helsing's wife went insane after their son's death, but as a devout Catholic, he refuses to divorce her." Where exactly in the novel does it mention this? I could only find this reference to Van Helsing's wife from Chapter XIII, Dr Seward's Diary in which Van Helsing says "...my poor wife dead to me...". I took this statement to mean that his wife was dead. Please correct me if I am wrong. Count de Ville 02:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Van Helsing's wife

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message: Well OK, "God im Himmel" isn't proper Dutch. But it's not proper German either! The German word for "God" is "Gott". —Gabbe 19:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "God im Himmel" is German? 

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message: Why does Van Helsing redirect to hear?  Shouldn't Van Helsing be the disambiguation page since this article is Abraham Van Helsing, the Jackman character is Gabriel Van Helsing, the film is Van Helsing (film), etc.  Emperor001 (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree there should be a disambiguation page. I was looking for the movie and ended up here. I don't know how to make a disambiguation page exactly though, so can anyone else do it? Podex (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: While both Max Muller and Thornley Stoker are backed up by the notes there's no evidence or citation to back up Robert Roosevelt or Gerard van Swieten as being an inspiration for the character. Should these two be removed from the entry. AlucardKarnstein
The article currently claims Abraham Van Helsing is 'a non-fictional character'. This should be referenced, since to my knowledge, the only notable Abraham Van Helsing is the fictional character in Dracula (1897), who has spawned a host of equally fictional imitations.  
The 1872 novella Carmilla provides two sources of Stoker's inspiration, Dr Martin Hesselius (note the similar name), the author of a series of papers on 'metaphysical medicine' (see the short story 'Green Tea' from In a Glass Darkly) and the vampire expert Baron Vordenburg.
Further, I note some confusion in the article over the name 'Westenra'. In  the novel it's always written like that, and never 'Westernra' as in this article.
Fourcultures (talk) 04:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character inspirations 

message: Why is Renfield considered an enemy in the infobox? I cannot recall that Van Helsing wanted to harm him in any way. He is just interested in the clues he can provide about Dracula. I propose to remove it from there. Mpaa (talk) 09:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renfield 

message: In many of the Dracula related pages their is considerable and unbalanced attention given to the Ian Holt/Dacre Stoker novel "Dracula The Undead" moreso than given to any other of the innumerable novels featuring the Count and company. This is probably due to the novel's (spurious) hype as the "official sequel." I've edited down or removed lengthy descriptions of that book's plot. BoosterBronze (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dacre Stoker's book 

message: I don't think Hugh Jackman should be listed as one of the people that have portrayed Abraham Van Helsing.  Jackman played Gabriel Van Helsing which was a character loosely based on, but not actually, Abraham Van Helsing.  They're different characters.  I figure I'd be instantly reverted if I just removed it, it's an obvious misconception to make.   --198.72.50.166 (talk) 08:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evict Hugh Jackman 

message: I find the article quite amusing as the author of the paragraph I am referring to seems to be quite puzzled about the fact that Abraham Van Helsing sounds Dutch although the character speaks High German. Have you ever heard of a guy named Ludwig van Beethoven? No? You should look him up. He wrote some good music. And he was a German. With a name sounding Dutch. And a guy called de Maizière is the current minister of defence of Germany. A Frenchman? And in some areas of this weird country, you even find a lot of Kaczynskis, Wilczinskis and Podolskis. Why is that? Well, there's something called migration. (You may already have heard of it as it's quite an important issue in our days.) So, Abraham Van Helsing might be a German whose ancestors were Dutch. Thought provoking idea, isn't it. Just like Beethoven. And similar to the character of Defoe's Robinson Crusoe, who was an Englishman of German descent (but his name had been anglified whereas Van Helsing remained Dutch). So, isn't that the most plausible explanation of them all? That Stoker had a German in mind who might have been of Dutch descent? (And this is only worth a discussion with regard to our modern terms. In the past, both modern Germans and modern Dutchmen were referred to as Dutch in English. Until the 19th century. And the Dutch referred to themselves as Nederduytsch in contrast to the Overlenders. But that's only an additional note.) This section of the article should be rewritten. The question of Van Helsing's nationality should either be completely removed, or adapted to the weird theory of a possible migration... ;-) -- Orthographicus (talk) 18:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume the above snarky comment is regarding the Dutch vs German accent (and maybe other things).  Since Dutch and German are very similar (in fact until recent times one was considered to be a dialect of the other) it is easy to get one confused with the other.  Since this entire discussion is about a work of fiction, I am not sure how important such fine details are?  Jokem (talk) 05:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A German with a Dutch name? Amazing! 

message: This doesn't seem right.--Jack Upland (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main protagonist? 

message: Should this article be written in British English?  Stoker was Irish, but Hiberno-English follows the same spelling conventions and most of the original novel is set in and associated with England. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engvar 

message: I've heard he's a law graduate too, but I'm not sure Carambolax (talk) 01:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawyer?