Talk:Mario/Archive 4

message: This section could use some trimming or possibly complete removal. —The Great Llama moo? 21:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The unsourced comparison to Superman/Bizzaro should probably be the first thing cut. Jay32183 22:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I tweaked the wording a bit. Deleting the sentence entirely might be better, but we should probably think of something to replace it first, as that paragraph would be rather short without it. –Llama mansign here 20:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mario#Relations|Relations]] 

message: Hey lives in the mushroom kingdom and the games takes place on Mushroom World which seems to be another planet separate form earth. So his cannonical nationality is the Mushroom Kingdom not any earth real nation.--71.123.191.125 10:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: mushroom kingdomer

message: Hi all. After reading this, I really do not understand. It appears that the side arguing that he is simply a citezen of the Mushroom Kingdom has had the most valid arguments, yet mostly throught the article he is referred to as an Italian American from Brooklyn, NY. What is the final decision? I think that this inconsistency should just be eraticated and that the final edit should be put in this article.69.81.178.253 10:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: mushroom kingdomer final decision?

message: This section looks like it talks a lot about the games Baby Mario appears in, such as the gameplay and storyline, rather than simply talking about the character. The story and gameplay should only be included when it provides context. If some of this could be removed, so that the article would be more focused, then it would also have the benefit of making more of the article real world significant, rather than just the in universe significance. Does that make sense? Jay32183 22:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baby Mario 

message: A few of you out there have heard of the 'argument' that Super Mario Brothers was 'communist propeganda' in the form of a parody.  It would be possibly worthy of mentioning but it would hardly be encyclopedia like. Any discussion on this? [www.communist-mario.com]VentusIgnis 02:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not something important to this article. We don't need to reference evrytime Mario is used in a bit of humor. Jay32183 03:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro's and Con's of Mario and Communism 

message: Mario's typical look and his Super Smash Bros. look are two different things.  Just look at Bowser's typical look compared to Bowser in Super Smash Bros. Melee.  If you want the most general picture of Mario, use 
im upset becuase bowser is not in games as much as he used to be
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Mario2small.jpg
because the way Mario looks in the article now is limited to the Super Smash Bros. series.
:That's what the image originally was; someone just recently changed it. I've changed it back. —The Great Llamamoo? 00:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't actually see the alt text anyway when it's put there. Not vandalism, but in this case not useful either.--Wizardman 18:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very useful to people who are Blind and Low–Vision, and it doesn't lower the quality for everyone else. Taric25 05:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Being blind or low-vision not only prevents some one from seeing pictures, but also prevents that person from reading text. I don't see how adding something that requires vision helps the vision impaired. Jay32183 20:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Text does not require vision, at least not on a computer. People who are Blind or Low–Vision use their UAs (User Agents) to access information. For example, UAs cannot describe images, however, if an image has alt text, then it will do one of three things. If the user is Low–Vision or chooses enlarged text instead of images, it will make the text very large and easy to read. If the user is Blind or prefers audio, the UA will use a synthetic voice to read the alt text. If the user is DeafBlind or prefers braille, then the UA will display braille on the user's dynamic braille display. We must keep the alt text so people who are Blind or Low–Vision have the same access to information as everyone else. If you'd like to learn more, see Screen reader. Taric25 05:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't those things also read the caption under the picture? There isn't a real benefit. The alt text is hidden unless the cursor is over the image, so the caption is a much better place to have the image defined by text. Jay32183 18:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A screen reader would read the caption under the picture, but the caption under the picture does not indicate how Mario looks. All it says is "For over 25 years, Mario has been Nintendo's official mascot." A person who is Blind or Low–Vision should have an idea of how Mario looks. The alt text is hidden unless the cursor is over the image or if the user uses a screen reader. The screen reader user "sees" the alt text instead of the image. Taric25 08:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario's picture 

message: This section of the text seems to have nothing to do with mass media. Any duplicate information should be deleted, and the rest, if relevant, should be moved to the appropriate place, such as concept and creation. Jay32183 23:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, might still need some cleanup, though. I've also deleted the header "In mass media" since that section is now so small. —The Great Llamamoo? 00:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In mass media 

message: I added a citation to the sales information. Please give me your input and tell me if it wwas accurate, etc. King Toadsworth "The Princess is in Another Castle (Again)" 04:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation Added 

message: Should the part about Mario and Luigi's personalities in the show be removed? It's not canon. —The Great Llamamoo? 22:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an interesting thought. Another thing to consider would be is it reasonable to assume the average reader would be familiar with it or care to know about it. I think some readers would be interested in knowing there are different versions, but they probably don't care too much about the fine details. Jay32183 23:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occupation and hobbies 

message: I think the  template might help add some of those inline citations you're looking for. That way when the information comes straight from a game you can still add a citation. Hope this helps you guys. Jay32183 02:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  inline citations 

message: The article states that the series has sold 285 million, but it source states that it hasn't even sold 200 million (193 million as of September 2006). 18:07, 7 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.19.141.251 (talk) 23:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It used to say 185 million, I dont know why it changed. Jay32183 23:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quickly looking over some old article versions, there was a source stating that over 275 million games featuring Mario have been sold, but there is a significant difference between having Mario in the game and being a Mario game. The more than 193 million figure fits the statement better. Dancter 23:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Mario Games Sold 

message: Mario's up for WP:GA/R - concern seems to be about the citations - criteria 2a and 2d have been named specifically.  - Malkinann 08:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario's up for Good Article Review

message: Upon reading this article, I was thinking that Baby Mario should probably have its own article. There could be a small section in this article about him, but I feel that it's taking away a bit from Mario as a whole since BM has so much information. Figured I'd throw this out there as I have no idea what the consensus would be between everyone. --Wizardman 18:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been wanting it shortened because it goes into too much game detail. Last time I checked there was more gameplay detail on Baby Mario than Mario as a whole in the "Appearances" section. That seems to be undue focus, which would prevent this from becoming a Featured Article which requires staying focused. Jay32183 18:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just realized that Baby Mario redirects to Mario. There's a problem in itself. I'll make a Baby Mario article and just have a mention in here. It may take me some time, so if anyone's not busy and wants to move the info, go for it. --Wizardman 19:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You should be able to write over the redirect. If you get there through the "What links here" button on the side of the screen you can get to the redirect page without it redirecting you here. Jay32183 19:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you were bold and separated Baby Mario. Do you have a plan for a one-paragraph summary style section or should we discuss how to do that? Jay32183 21:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was fast... Yeah, what I'll do is add in at least a little bit of Baby Mario and the connection, though whatever I do wil certainly have to be improved. --Wizardman 21:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baby Mario II 

message: Subject says it all, my source is this: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/749/749069p5.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.117.209.109 (talk) 08:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about Mario as a fictional character not a gmae series. If the is an article on the series then that information should go there. Jay32183 17:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario got put as the #1 franchise of all time from www.ign.com 

message: He is considered the most well-rounded character in the series.
Wouldn't this be more of a opinion than a fact? I realize that in nearly all other games (Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario 3-on-3) Mario is listed as "All-Around." However, in Super Smash Brothers and the sequels, I'm not sure if he's well-rounded, much less "the most" well-rounded. He is usually considered middle-weight, but I have opinions that he is a bit better in the air than on the ground, and also think he lacks far range attacks. This is just my opinion however, don't bite. =P
...My first post, if I did anything wrong, or have any tips, please comment. Yellow Panda 00:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Usually his games say that he has no glaring weaknesses or strengths.  He's just average.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 01:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Basically.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 08:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, take Mario Kart DS for example; when veiwing the driver's cars, you will notice that Mario normally has his stat bars near the middle, unlike Bowser or Taod. Geohevy 01:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion 

message: Do these subjects really need seperate sections? They are both extremely short. –The Great Llamamoo? 00:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the need there own sections. Being discussed within powers and abilities should be enough. Jay32183 01:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, this is pretty annoying. Put it in larger sections! But, since this is the section about Metal Mario, his powers are basically the same, except he weighs more. Pokedork7876 12:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree!!!!!!I like looking at mario stuff. I found a site [www.themushroomkingdom.com]that has an encyclopedia called the Mariopedia that includes items and monsters the wikipedia doesn't have-User:Takuna
And we don't need it.
TMK's Mariopedia is technically worthless here.
It's their own little thing.
Also. Don't be a Fanboy with "!"'s. Angry Sun 18:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Metal Mario" and "Weapons" 

message: Hello everybody. I have added some citations to this article. Feel free to give me feedback on my contributions. King Toadsworth The Princess is in another Castle! 23:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Yahoo and Gamespot ones are fine, I think, but I've removed the other two because answers.com gets its info from other sites (including Wikipedia) and whatever the other site was wasn't reliable. –The Great Llamamoo? 00:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: Sorry to have put in two bad references. I am trying my hardest here, you know. King Toadsworth The Princess is in another Castle! 02:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ahem 

message: The image that is accompanied by "Mario made his first #D debut in Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars", is actually Super Mario64. I'm thinking that it need to be changed so that it's and image of SMRPG. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gevis (talk • contribs).
:He really did his 3-D debut make it in SM 64, not SM RPG. Some user probably thought he did so in the latter, but was then reverted. –The Great Llamasign here 02:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption Problem 

message: Can we just remove some of the statements requiring references? The trivia for the Super Mario Bros. Super Show is a bit on the crufty side anyways. Alternatively, we could just link the Super Show section to its main article. King Toadsworth The Princess is in another Castle! 18:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's usually fine to remove crufty statements that can't be sourced. This would also help reduce the in-universe text relative to the real-world text. Jay32183 22:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not... 

message: Is the "Mario Mayhem" site notable? It was recently placed in the external links section. –The Great Llamasign here 20:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: New sites generally aren't notable, so it probably shouldn't be added back in. –Llama mansign here 20:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable site? 

message: Is Mario really a toy inventor? Is there any proof that he actually invented the Mini Mario toys? –The Great Llamasign here 02:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, the edit's been reverted. –The Great Llamasign here 02:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Fictional toy inventors]] 

message: A Good Article review has ended on this article, and in a 4 to 0 vote, this article has been delisted from the Good Article list. Primarily, lack of citations was the main concern, though it was originally filed for vandalism. Dispute archived here: Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 12. Homestarmy 20:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically, the Appearances section and his physical appaearance and abilities ould use some references. On reading I think it looks pretty good, but I'm not going to touch it until that stuff is fixed. It seems to follow everything else on first read, but I'll look it over. --Wizardman 05:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review

message: :Basically, the Appearances section and his physical appaearance and abilities ould use some references. On reading I think it looks pretty good, but I'm not going to touch it until that stuff is fixed. It seems to follow everything else on first read, but I'll look it over. --Wizardman 05:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review of Nomination

message: I kinda noticed the sad state this article is in, and I think I have a bit of a solution. In the German Wikipedia, Mario is a featured article, so I was thinking if we just use that as a reference, we might get this article back into shape. Is it the good? Cat's Tuxedo 01:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well we can't use Wikipedia as a reference for Wikipedia. We can translate sections and cite the same sources. But that would assume German Wikipedia and English Wikipedia have the exact same expectations. Couldn't hurt to get a translation of the German article though. Jay32183 02:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that's what I meant.Cat's Tuxedo 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: German Wikipedia

message: I don't know who nominated this for GA review, but it's still not ready to go. I would have put it on hold, but there are just too many problems: lack of sources, esp. in Physical appearance, along with way too many POV (and not-sourced) statements; plus, confusing and not-explained statements (such as 'pack in'.) Dåvid ƒuchs (talk • contribs) 23:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Failing GA nomination

message: Mario Bros.
 
The arcade version of Mario Bros.After his appearance in Donkey Kong Junior, Mario appeared again in 1983 in Mario Bros., Mario's first appearance as the titular hero. After a colleague cited that Mario looked more like a plumber than a carpenter, Miyamoto changed his occupation accordingly. In this game, which was originally called Pipe Jump, Mario and his brother Luigi must exterminate Koopas and other pests that entered from the underground pipes, often by flipping them over. Although the game's success steadily declined, it was not the brothers' last appearance.
Here, It says that Mario must exterminate Koopas, however, "Koopa" is the name for Bowser, and the name for those other little creatures are Koopa Troopas.  Also, the flying kind are called Koopa Paratroopas.Norn Guy 02:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koopa(Troopa)s 

message: "Each of the 96 levels possessed several exits, which increased the player's freedom of choice, and hid many secret levels, largely increasing the replay value of the game."
thats a lot of levels for a NINTENDO NES game
This is untrue. There are 72 levels. However, there are 96 exits. 24 of the levels have 2 exits. Can someone edit this, please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.225.202.15 (talk) 04:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Mario World has 72 levels! 

message: "2002's Nintendo Gamecube marks the first time a Mario game wasn't published at the sametime. " This was introduced at the recent major overhaul, which otherwise seems really good. S Sepp 22:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What should this be?

message: The new sections about the games seem to talk too much about the games themselves. The article should stay focused on the creation and development of Mario. The overhaul did have the advantage of removing the unecessary parts of the "in-universe" perspective. Please see Link (The Legend of Zelda) for details. Jay32183 03:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results of the major overhaul 

message: Just a suggestion, but the current article seems to be riddled with statements that insinuate a point of view. [ie. "considered to be the best..."] I also think that the "Kiddy System" section doesn`t seem to belong. King Toadsworth The Princess is in another Castle! 22:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. I think there should have been some more discussion before the overhaul. –Llama man 22:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The overhaul seems to have created as many problems as it solved. Jay32183 23:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the German Wikipedia has virtually the exact same information, and that's a featured articleCat's Tuxedo 14:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The English and German projects don't have the exact same standards. Jay32183 18:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: There's been lot's of confusion over this, so I'm gonna post what I think happened.
Mario used to be a construction worker. He hada girl friend named Pauline. One day Pauline was kidnapped by a giant monkey, nicknamed Donkey Kong. He took her up to the top of the constrution site Mario was at, and stomped all around, doing significant damage. Mario ran up the scafolding and saved Pauline. Mario was blamed by his boss for the damag he did to stop the monkey, and was fired. So Mario, with the help of his brother Luigi, Mario started his own plumber buisness. There first job was cleaning out the newyork sewer system. When they got down there, they found it had been infested with hundreds of monsters. They spent many hours cleaning it out, and when they were done they found a weird green pipe. While they were looking down, Donkey Kong snuck up on them. He was mad at Mario for beating him up, and wanted to pummel him. So he pushed them both down the pipe, and then jumped in himself. When they emerged from the pipe, they found themselves in a bright new land. Donkey Kong, bewildered by this sight, ran off. Whem Mario and Luigi woke up, (they were knocked out when they hit the ground) they saw the pipe recede into the ground. They started to freak out, but then they saw a weird man with a mushroom on his head. The man said that their princess had been captured, and asked for their help. He showed Mario a picture of the Princess. Mario imediatly  fell in love with her, forgeting all about Pauline. He then vowed to save Princess Peach from the evil Bowser! And thats how our favorite hero got to the Mushroom Kingdom!
:Since that's entirely speculation, it cannot be included in the article. Jay32183 23:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well this talk page is for discussing imporvements to the article. Discussing the subject in general isn't always beneficial to Wikipedia. Jay32183 01:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Please read the talk page guidelines, which are pretty clear on the matter. You really have to tie in discussions with issues with the article that should be addressed. Dancter 21:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Common, it's not like it's going to change anything in your life... 207.107.233.124 19:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Mario got to the Mushroom Kingdom 

message: I just realized one of the headings in the article is "motion picture films". Shouldn't the title be just "motion pictures" or just "films". I don't care which, even "movies" would be acceptable to me. But "motion picture fikms" is awkward and redundant. Jay32183 18:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed. –Llama man 19:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motion picture films? 

message: I distinctly remember a computer game starring Mario and Luigi. The premise of the game involved finding various locations around the world, and I believe Luigi was the main character. Come to think of it, wasn't this (or a similar version of this) game released on the Super Famicom? I believe it was called "Mario Is Missing." Can someone please help find information on this subject? (Discgolfrules 23:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer Game? 

message: Right now, this game has an eincy–wiency refrence in the article, but it's such a good game starring Mario! Taric25 02:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 

message: This article is mainly about the games he was in, not what he did in each game, his roles, etc.. I think this should be majorly rewritten. You see, when people look at character articles, they look at why and what they chacter did, not the games he starred in.209.244.43.176 19:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The article should open with the creation of the character, then go on to the development and evolution of the character, and finish up with reactions to the character. Jay32183 00:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I also agree. –Llama mantalkcontribs 00:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the whole history section just be scrapped for now? I really don't see more than a few paragraphs of info that actually deal with the character. How exactly should the section work while not being a giant plot summary? Nemu 03:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Games or Mario

message: The main article describes an enemy as a shell creeper which evolved into a koopa troopa. This article only calls them koopa troopa. Should it be changed? 216.237.235.137 22:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario Bros.

message: This section has more info on other characters that mario himself. Shouldn't it be removed? The page is about mario, not his opponents. Maybe a small section, or merge it. Comments? I won't remove it without asking first. Quatreryukami 16:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That section probably should be removed. It's an unsourced comparison to Sonic and Crash. It is not only off-topic, but it appears to be original research. Jay32183 22:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the section per the concerns addressed. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 22:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mascot section 

message: Will someone add this to the article? I don't know how I should. 75.32.23.36 22:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think you can, because of semi-protection on the article. I would add it to the article, but I don't know where to add it. We just don't appear to have a suitable section, and I don't want to make an "upcoming games" section just for this. Maybe under "spin-offs" or "other games"? --LuigiManiac 22:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto, or how about under the heading "Wii?" I seriously don't know... --The preceding comment was signed by User:Sp3000 (talk•contribs) 08:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Someone's put a mention of it in the "Other Games" section. That seems like the best heading to give mention to M&SOG, because by what's under the "Spin-offs" section, M&SOG wouldn't fit that criteria. ~Entegy 20:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've noticed in the article that the Mario sport games are place under "Muti-player Games". Why not put it there? 206.66.217.141 19:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario & Sonic at the Olymic Games

message: I was thinking about whether this article should be changed back, similar to how it was in mid-January (like this, perhaps?). Both versions need a lot of work, but, in my opinion, the current version focuses too much on the games, has POV statements, and doesn't have nearly enough references. Any thoughts? — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 20:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Currently the article looks like a big, long list of games that Mario has appeared in. I liked the way the article was before. Master Strike 18:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed back to the version of article from mid-January. From discussions on the talk page, there seems to be a consensus that the version before now didn't describe the character enough. Please revert if you don't feel there's a consensus, then we can discuss some more. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 21:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say merge the two. The problem with that older version seems to be excessive OR, but if it were cut and formed into a sourced characteristics section, it would be fine. Nemu 21:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How's this? — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 21:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It just needs to be condensed, trimmed for repeated info, and cleaned up a little, and it'll probably be fine. Nemu 21:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for article 

message: Excuse but I have a simple question? You said "Mario s popular Nintendo Character" Your supposed to put in "the most popular character, I mean he is the most popular, but why not put that in though? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Milos Warrior (talk • contribs) 01:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Popularity 

message: I hate to be stupid, but why are there two identical images of Paper Mario? Is one not good enough? JimmmyThePiep 01:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicate Image 

message: why did someone delete the info that mario was one of the only three to recieve a star in walk of the game? It was perfectly fine--Superbub 23:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walk of the Game 

message: It was stated in nickelodean magazine that mario and peach had a son, also named baby mario. is this true?--71.176.136.13 15:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  M-Daddy?! 

message: Please stop reverting my sourced information about the time and place of Jumpmans name change. looking through this artical it is obvies that he was known as Mario before 1984. if you can find a source for your information please share it, but until then please leave my edits alone. 216.162.144.26 6 June 2006
No because you are full of crud and everyone here knows it...
Mario was Jumpman in Donkey Kong and only in Donkey Kong.
So anytime you edit it.
I'm editing it back. Angry Sun 20:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jumpman to Mario 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mariofire.jpg

message: I'm pretty sure for those of us watching this article that its become obvious that this article is being vandalized like crazy. I propose we redo semi-protection and keep it for an extended period of time. crazyviolinist 16:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reprotection

message: This is a problem not only on this page, but on all other pages that mention Nintendo's Wii. It is NOT "The Wii", or "Nintendo Wii".  According to Nintendo, it is "Nintendo's Wii", "Wii Console", or just "Wii". A sentence such as, "I bought a Nintendo Wii", is incorrect.  The correct way would be, "I bought a Wii Console".
Whenever I fix these grammar errors, other users (generally AngrySun) undo them, thereby making the statement about Wii unencyclopedic.  Please consider this when adding such statements in the future. SpinyMcSpleen 17:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Grammar 

message: Why does one minor three minute (or so) Nintendo of America interview from the 80's override the Mario Megasite? I must say, the interview was made before anything that established "Mario Mario" and "Luigi Mario". It could be outdated info for all you know. 208.101.152.167 22:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario Vs. Mario Mario 

message: Well, I don't even know how start but I'll say it anyway. I am tired in seeing Mario being just the mascot in which nobody cares pretty much, and thinking towards Link and the Zelda series. One proof is the Barn Star that the Link article got and the FA-Class notice. I still can't believe that the most famous character in videogames could possibly be falling. It's incredible, but I am actually seeing the rise and fall of Super Mario. A long time ago, people always stood in emotion with a new Mario title (just like a Zelda title is today). For every single Zelda fan was a Mario fan. Mario titles always selled more, got higher scores, and the Mario name was getting bigger. Then Mario's golden age came: the N64 era. The most expected title of all time already launched with the N64. Super Mario 64 was the biggest success in gaming, selling millions of copies for 4 years. The game received the highest scores ranging from 9.6 to 10/10. It was remarkable. I can even remember it like if it as yesterday. Everyone talked about it, the stock was empty and everybody played and enjoyed. After 5 Years, the game was named by most people as the "Greatest Game of All Time". Then, Mario Kart 64 came, same huge hit. Still today it is considered the "Greatest Sports Game of All Time". Years have passed until it came the day in the year of 1998, when Ocarina of Time launched. The game was such a hit, that it was even being compared with SM64. Years still passed and Super Mario 64 was still being considered the greatest. When Melee was revealed, one person asked Sakurai which one was better, SM64 or OoT. He said that the boss from the new main mode of the game would show his answer. That is why Bowser was the last boss on Adventure Mode. If OoT was better, wouldn't you guys think Ganon would be in Bowser's place? SM128 was revealed then, people got even more excited, but after the many delays, the game was forgotten. Somewhat, Mario got even more childish, partying all the time, not being the same hits like a normal N64 Mario (not that I have something against them, but they could be just like MK64). Then people weren't taking Mario games seriously as before. Then, TP was revealed, and people hoped it would be just like a great sequel of OoT. This is the part where Mario really died. Just a little bit before the launch, magazines were making their opinions again about the greatest game of all time. SM64 was normally placed between 11th and 3rd place. OoT was placed 1st by all of them. That is also why SMG is not the most wanted game, and why Link finished Mario on the how to play part on the SSBB official site.This is why I say you guys keep focusing on the Zelda series and improving the articles, while this article you don't do nothing. I would like to hear the people who Agree and Oppose about the situation and the opinions.  Mr. Mario 192 19:29, 29 June 2007
:And you're saying because a series is more popular, it's more important? I'm going to have to disagree with that. - 82.42.162.112 11:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Mario 

message: In Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Sonic will be taller than Mario. Now, Sonic is known to be three feet and three inches tall, which means that Mario is much more shorter than we thought. Maybe it should be mentioned in the article. 208.101.140.76 18:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just how short IS Mario?! 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
Not the most common usage. I am also proposing the disambiguation page be moved here. Also, is this article just about the character or the whole series? Simply south 12:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. Mario may be a common Italian given name, but the article character is by far the most important page with this title. I do, however, propose renaming Mario (disambiguation) to Super Mario (disambiguation), and then add the following hatnote to the page:
("the Nintendo character" instead of "the video game character" because he is symbolic for the Nintendo franchise, and has had more than his own video game (e.g. a TV series)).
When we do this, the "People named Mario:" part on Mario (disambiguation) may be removed, as it is confusing anyway (a list of people named Mario is on Mario (given name)).
Melsaran (formerly Salaskаn) 15:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Strong support: I never understood why Mario has the main article anyways. --SeizureDog 23:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: *See WP:COMMONNAME for why Mario is at Mario.  --Serge 18:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Strong oppose: I highly doubt you can think of someone with equal or more notability than one of the most well-known characters in the world. Disaster KirbyTalk 23:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Strong oppose, certainly the most common usage as far as I can see. Mario (given name) is done in accordance with a the others anyway. Wizardman 00:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Oppose, clearly most common usage. I can't imagine what else somebody would be looking for if they typed "Mario" into the search header. -- MisterHand (Talk to the Hand|Contribs) 20:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Oppose Mostly likely page someone would be looking for if they searched for "Mario" here. John Smith's 21:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Oppose Only other Mario I can even think of is Mario Andretti, but I wouldn't expect to find that article under Mario.  In the unlikely event that someone is look for something else, the dab link is there. --Serge 18:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 11:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: How about we start an article of the Mario series just like the Legend of Zelda series??  Mr. Mario 192  19:52, 4 August 2007  (UTC)
:Um...like this? — Malcolm (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually that just redirects to the list of games in the franchise. It does not talk about the franchise itself. If it is in this article, perhaps a split? Simply south 13:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario Series 

message: How can Mario be Luigi's older twin brother? --82.207.189.165 10:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twins??? 

message: Okay first of all, there were already a lot of debates over this, but I just need to point this out.
Although fanonically Mario does come from Brooklyn, I know of a lot of Mario and Nintendo fans who believe that the Mario in Brooklyn "theory" is incorrect. All of the "proof" comes from non-canonical sources, starting from the DiC cartoon, which slipped trough in Mario is Missing (made by a company not associated with Nintendo) and Nintendo Power. Although Nintendo Power is an official Nintendo magazine, it still isn't a valid and official source. Mind you, they did label the Castle Siege stage from Super Smash Bros. Brawl as the Daein Castle from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance.
The only official theories settling Mario's roots are the Yoshi's Island games, and so far both disprove the Mario in Brooklyn theory. I do however recognize that Miyamoto still hasn't given us solid evidence that should prove or disprove this theory, but I do believe that the article should be altered because of that.
I did however hear that Miyamoto has said that Mario indeed just came from the Mushroom Kingdom and that the Brooklyn thing is just bullocks, but it does however need citation.--GaryCXJk 00:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario in Brooklyn 

message: I have absolutley no idea where to begin but the introduction to this article is ridiculously long and unorganized. It could probably use a rewrite from anyone who can actually compile all the information and take whats useful from it. Glassbreaker5791 19:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction