Talk:Orange station (NJ Transit)

message: I have moved this article back from Orange station (New Jersey) to Orange (NJT station). I think a requested move for this article and most other similar NJT articles needs to be created here in the near future. epicgenius (talk) 01:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I can guarantee this one would be vague because the Orange Erie depot, if I ever get to it, would also be an Orange station. Mitch32(I can have oodles of charm when I want to.) 02:04, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

text: Consensus has already been established in the USSTATION RfCs. If you have an objection to the convention, you should open a discussion there. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 02:18, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This was disputed at here, so that is why I restored original name for now. epicgenius (talk) 02:40, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. The naming convention for these stations is "Name (NJT station)" whereas the naming convention in WP:USSTATION would simply be "Name station", with state or other disambiguation as required. As I see it, since NJT usage predates the current consensus, if you want to change from one to the other you must change them all. The entire system. Not just a random choice. I think that would require discussion. Secondarywaltz (talk) 04:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a problem with moving them one at a time. In fact it's inevitable when dealing with ambiguous stations that are often not near each other, as with the Orange stations. However, now that it's been brought up it a bulk RM should probably be the way to handle it. To be fair, it does appear that the New York City Subway WikiProject does have written conventions, but I don't know if New Jersey Transit does, and at any way the conventions are out of step with the article titles policy and WP:USSTATION.--Cúchullain t/c 18:42, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I agree with your naming. The problem is that some editors who work on articles which use those entrenched system naming conventions are going to fight to maintain the status quo. Since they already have disambiguation, there is no harm in us keeping those the way they are - for now. We can choose when we want to fight that fight. I'll be in your corner! Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Just the question that comes to mind is the fact that if I write Orange (Erie Railroad station), it's referencing the same Orange, New Jersey and Orange station (New Jersey) would then need to be a disambiguation. Mitch32(I can have oodles of charm when I want to.) 19:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, we'd distinguish by system, per WP:USSTATION. The proper titles would be something like Orange station (Erie Railroad) and Orange station (NJT).--Cúchullain t/c 19:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Either way, this problem is going to be prevalent across New Jersey, so it's something worth discussion. Mitch32(I can have oodles of charm when I want to.) 19:57, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

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