Talk:Field marshal

message: The paragraph about Stalin is not correct at all. This type of knowledge is typical for the
propaganda-educated Americans. In the Soviet Union, Generalissimo was not a rank,
but a different name(title) for MSUs in Soviet Union or field marshals in Imperial Russia.
This title was given to a field marshal or MSU, who participated in three different
victorious wars. The first Generalissimo was Generalissimo Suvorov in Imperial Russia
and the second was Generalissimo Stalin, who won wars with Finland, German, and
Japan. It is a sad truth, but not many field marshals won three different wars.
Generalissimo was used without addition "of the Soviet Union", so correct
entrance in the encyclopedia should be Generalissimo Stalin. The rank of [[Marshal of
the Soviet Union]] was actually the highest rank. About self-promoting. The British
monarchs get the rank of Field Marshal without even checking the maps of battles, while
Generalissimo Stalin planned battles and played a crucial role in the wars.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.6.142.235 (talk • contribs) 
:Stretching it a bit to claim victory against Japan after the entry of the Soviets in the Pacific at the eleventh hour?  And surely the Fins were part of the German war? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dainamo (talk • contribs) 
::No, the "Finns" were not part of the "German war". The Winter War was before Operation Barbarossa. -- Petri Krohn 13:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generalissimo Stalin 

message: Richard Fuller, in Shokan: Hirohito's Samurai, lists Higashikuni as a field marshal and Hata's promotion date as June 1943, not as 1944. This conflicts with what Genstab has written, which I have incidentally removed to here since it messes up the consistency of the list:
:this list provided by Japanese scholar Kenji Tsuruhara thru Axis History Forum. Saigo, Higashikuni, Asaka, Arisugawa and Kitasarakawa were never Field Marshals. Note that several were promoted the same year they died- these were posthumous promotions.
Any evidence to back either claim up one way or the other? -- Necrothesp 17:34, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan

message: The Duke of Argyll may have been the first British field marshal in the modern sense, but the style dates back at least as far as the English Civil War: according to regiments.org, Sir Ralph Horton was Field Marshal of the Western Army, and later Field Marshal General (sic) of the West and Sussex, Surrey and Kent; John, Lord Byron was Field Marshal of the forces in Worcester, Salop, Chester and the six Welsh Counties. Franey 14:34, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britain 

message: Time to factor the list of marshals off somewhere else I think. GraemeLeggett 12:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List too big 

message: I saw that a great number of Field Marshal articles were added by an anon user, all of the one liners simply saying that the rank at one point existed in the country in question and that it was held by a particular person.  A major cleanup of these articles is needed as they can be merged back into this article.  At the very least, stubs and categories should be added. -Husnock 02:55, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Field Marshal Pages

message: All these ranks exist and have been awarded, according to this page: though Idi Amin's self-awarded rank of Field Marshal was one of his more sensible acts of self-aggrandisement (compared with e.g. his title of Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea). — Franey 21:31, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I get it now...former crown colonies of the UK...that makes sense.  Those pages need massive expansions and sources.  Pics would not hurt either. -Husnock 21:56, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It might also be a good idea to look at List of Field Marshals, which details holders of the ranks in all these countries and is referenced in this article. -- Necrothesp 01:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Field Marshals of India, Malaysia, Pakistan, South Africa, Uganda 

message: Why is the rank of Field Marshal always associated with a baton? I'd like to know. If you know the history behind this, please add a paragraph about it in the article. —Chowbok 17:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm curious to know this myself. Bastie 22:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baton?

message: Anyone familiar with the story of why the U.S. doesn't have Field Marshals?  I was told it was because General George C. Marshall did not want to be called Field Marshal Marshall.  I cannot verify that, but I did find a link, that if accurate, explains in even greater detail what I am saying.  Furthermore according to that link, the U.S. has a rank even higher than 5 Star General/Admiral that is reserved for only two people.  See:  http://ask.yahoo.com/20020308.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shwylde (talk • contribs) 
:I don't know why the U.S. doesn't have Field Marshals, but I guarantee you that story is a load of crap. —Chowbok 15:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A more likely explanation is that nobody wanted to create a rank that would outrank George Washington. See here for a more reliable history than the Yahoo page. —Chowbok 21:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The Americans felt that "Field Marshal" was too much associated with its monarchial origin, that is the one reason why ranks such as "General of the Armies" and "General of the Army" was created.RicJac 20:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, the rank of field marshal was felt to be too european for an American to have, so it was replaced.Rugz 20:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Replaced? they never had it.  Also why the focus on WWII, wasn't the issue relevant in WWI too?  And please, field marshal in lower case unless attached to a person.  GrahamBould 20:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. field marshals? 

message: I'm digging this up from memory, but I seem to recall that Field Marshal (at least in Britain) is a wartime-only rank: a general officer (ie General) is appointed to the rank when there is a sufficiently large force to command. Thus a Field Marshal is also a General in that sense. I'll see if I can find a reference as it would make an interesting adition ;-) EyeSerene 18:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Appointment to Field Marshal

message: In the preface of the article, there is this statement:
:Some nations use the title of marshal instead. The Air Force equivalent in the Commonwealth is Marshal of the Air Force (not to be confused with air marshal). 
What Commonwealth is it refering to?  It's very unclear.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by KickTheDonkey (talk • contribs) 20:12, August 30, 2007 (UTC) 
When not otherwise qualified, I think the term always refers to the commonwealth of Nations.  I've linked the term to that article.  Rojomoke 16:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Commonwealth? 

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message: Why are there 2 articles for Field Marshal one in English and one for Arabic armies named Mushir (latin transliteration of Field Marshal in Arabic language) as long as they are equivalent? I suggest merging both in one article. Amr TarekSay Hello!,  20:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mushir 

message: Article currently  has a footnote that reads The equivalent of a Generalfeldmarschall in the German navy was Großadmiral (grand admiral). The rank of Generalfeldmarschall was abolished after the fall of Nazi Germany in 1945.
There is no reference given, and there's some doubt in my mind as to whether this is accurate. The corresponding rank to Generalfeldmarschall seems to me to be Generaladmiral, the rank immediately junior to Großadmiral.
But this error, if error it be, is repeated elsewhere in Wikipedia, again without sources AFAIK. See also Talk:Großadmiral. Andrewa (talk) 04:26, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Großadmiral 

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