Talk:Tintin in the Congo

message: Kalulu was in reality Ndugu . He was Henry Morton Stanly's assistant in the Congo. It reminds me about Coco, Tintin's assistant.  II never heard any comment to that effect, but anyone who agree with me, feel free to send your comment  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.118.246 (talk) 04:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The Indonesian article currently uses this file in the article which I think would go very nicely here too. But it's currently only hosted on their wiki, despite having a CC license. Does anyone know how to transfer it? Brigade Piron (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, manually, by copying the file to your computer then uploading it to Wikipedia. I'm not convinced this picture is that great though; also this featured article already has a good balance of illustrations. Prhartcom (talk) 13:23, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful picture 

message: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Tintin in the Congo, suggested by QAI, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  TFAR 

message: In case somebody Twinkles me again, I recommend those interested in a more meaningful background read Congo Free State propaganda war, Congo Free State, Belgian Congo, King Leopold's Soliloquy, Edmund Dene Morel, Congo rubber, King Leopold's Ghost, etc.  The region has a truly exceptional history in which the most terrible abuses were misrepresented away by a surge of propaganda.  The abuses of this region, and the cynical way in which they were covered up, are the poisoned font from which everything from HIV to the Rwanda and Burundi genocides have been drawn.  Something like this is I think best viewed within that context. Wnt (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: , as I have already stated on your Talk page, Wikipedia is not a soapbox or a place to tell the world about your noble cause. The article you are disruptively editing is a classic comic book; it is not the place to inform readers about former atrocities of the Congo. As well, your edits have conflicted with our verifiability policies and appear to be based on your original research. Keep in mind that this is a Featured Article that was reviewed by many different reviewers.  Feel free to contact me if I can answer any questions. Prhartcom (talk) 21:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  If this article isn't a soapbox then why do you go on and on about the horrors of showing somebody on safari?  That has practically nothing to do with the period.  You don't even explain what a "breaker of rocks" actually is, as explained in Belgian Congo.  This thing is a complete disgrace and you stand there and tell me it's "disruptive editing" to mention the previous propaganda war, the ongoing private interests in the Congo? Wnt (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Note there was no "original research" involved - the Wikilinks directly provide references for each thing I said, and my intention all along was to transfer them as I did in the second edit. Wnt (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Wnt, I understand your concerns regarding the European colonisation of Africa and the continuing imperialist intervention and subjugation of that continent. However, Prhartcom is right; this article isn't a place to get on a soapbox. You might want to ensure that everyone reading this page is aware of the Belgian imperialist atrocities in Central Africa. From a moral standpoint, that's understandable. However, posting information on the subject of the Belgian Congo that reliable sources don't directly tie in to Tintin in the Congo is against Wikipedia policy. That's just the way it is, and we all have to abide by it. Midnightblueowl (talk) 23:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

text: For what it's worth, I'm partially siding with Wnt here. Even the most ardent Hergé fan will admit that the pre-Lotus books are ideological hatchet jobs (especially in the case of Soviets). Sceptre (talk) 20:13, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. Hergé naivety is adequately covered. No, no one calls the book a "hatchet job". Prhartcom (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

text:   Both this and the Soviets article touch on what you're talking about. That's not what Wnt is trying to add. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur with Curly; these articles already make clear that both Congo and Soviets were ideologically-driven propaganda designed to encourage a conservative Catholic Belgian view of the world replete with anti-socialist and colonialist attitudes. However, what Wrt is trying to add is (in effect) a list of (what now would be considered) human rights abuses conducted in the Congo by European colonialists. The two things are very different. Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a complete miss! 

message: I'd just like to stress that the Swedish debate surrounding Tintin in the Congo was a really big thing and tied into several other incidents relating to stereotypical images of black Africans. The Tintin-gate debate lasted several weeks and involved journalists, academics, politicians, you name it. It was extremely high-pitched at times.
Great article, btw. A well-deserved TFA.
Peter Isotalo 20:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish Tintin-gate 

message: Whoever wrote this article did a fantastic job! It reads very well. However, there's one sentence that doesn't seem quite right to me - "In his psychoanalytical study of the series, Jean-Marie Apostolidès highlighted that in the Congolese adventure, Tintin represented progress and the Belgian state was a model for the natives to imitate." Should this say that the Belgian state was portrayed as a model for the natives to imitate? --Jpcase (talk) 23:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps that would be an improvement; feel free to make it, Jpcase. To help your understanding, Apostolidès is showcasing psychoanalysis itself and it just using Tintin as its vehicle; it's all just an  exercise for this author. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 04:41, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick question 

message: I think it might be valuable to include more historical context to the main article regarding the politics of the Belgian Congo. I know this has been discussed briefly above in terms of Leopold's Congo Free State.
I think that, in particular, short sections about
-Trinité Coloniale -- Govt. Interests and better understanding of Missionary's role in the narrative.
-Mention of Bula Matari -- Named after Henry Morton Stanley, though mentioned as a term of reference towards Tintin a number of times
-Historical background regarding the publishing of Tintin within Le Petit Vingtieme, and more broadly within Le Vingtieme Siècle. This might be worth mentioning due to the paper's well-documented conservative leanings. Might be interesting to explore that perspective's influence on the plot!
I believe some additional context might be valuable to a reader. Does this sound like something that might add some value to the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexjnichols (talk • contribs) 23:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Questions regarding the addition of further historical context were previously discussed in the above section titled "What a complete miss!". The general response was that we would not be able to add additional information that is not covered in the reliable sources devoted to Tintin in the Congo. Midnightblueowl (talk) 11:48, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Historical Context 

message: Hello all,
I will be adding a recording of this article for the Wikipedia Spoken Articles project. It will be uploaded soon.
Regards,
Nelson
(jarabe tapatio)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarabe tapatio (talk • contribs) 16:59, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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