Talk:Xbox 360/Archive 8

message: "WMV files can be streamed from a computer through the use of Windows Media Connect or connected USB device."
Is this true? You can play wmv with an usb device?
-Acgla —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sirsanjuro (talk • contribs) 20:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: True?

message: I am plannning on deleting the good article tag, before doing so, I am willing to discuss it here.  I believe this fails the good article critera for the following reason; It does not follow the neutral point of view policy. --Mgillespie 13:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide reliable sources and I'm sure that information can be included. Syrthiss 16:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

text: None of those look like reliable sources.  I'd like to get some more opinions on that, but 3 of those are not any kind of news source with external vetting.  The Mercury News itself is a valid news organization that I could trust to be a reliable source, but the link is to a news-blog which are often more opinion than facts. Syrthiss 19:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with this. The reason why this page is now fully-protected was that I was getting sick and tired of the stupid argument over whether or not it was shipped or sold. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 16:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article Delisting

message: Anyone have an English source for that figure?Meow07 03:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English referance for Japanese sales

message: "The Wii is now officially Australia's fastest selling console, with sales of 32,901 Wiis in the first four days after last week's launch. It has eclipsed the Xbox 360, which sold 30,421 in its first four days after its March launch this year. And not only is the Wii the country's fastest selling home console, it's the fastest selling piece of game hardware including handheld devices."
Hes an administrator for GS Australia, but I know there must be something better than a blarg, I'll dig around a bit.--Signor 05:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I read it everywhere. In example, www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12109 should be enough. You can remove that part, nobody updated the text when this happened. -- ReyBrujo 06:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer fastest in Australia. 

message: Before an edit war starts...
At least two things need to be addressed: the location of the  template and the inclusion of the  template. The Console template's current location messes up the references section and causes the list to be one column. And there are similar templates to the Xbox one on the PlayStation and Wii pages (:Template:PlayStation, :Template:Wii). -th1rt3en 04:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dedicated one should be moved below to the external links section, besides messing the format, it has nothing to do with the references. It may fit a See also section, but certainly not the references. As for the Xbox, up to the editors of this page. I am moving the Dedicated one somewhere else as it works against the usability of the article. -- ReyBrujo 05:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes 

message: To the recent (non-vandal) anonymous editors: please put SOMETHING in your edit summaries to explain the changes you are making. I'd leave this message on individual talk pages, but there are quite a few different anons. - (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 03:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent anonymous edits 

message: Has it even been revealed why MS chose use PowerPC processors in the 360? Was it simply price? performance? to reduce x86 hacking? Seems like they paid a high price of breaking hardware backward compatibility by going PPC. --72.202.150.92 02:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The architecture of the consoles are COMPLETELY different, a similar CPU wouldve hardly helped considering how much more licensing they wouldve had to get on top of that.
Nonetheless, they were specially made out-of-order chips so they would be best for gaming and a lot cheaper than traditional in-order. Going PPC was DEFINITELY the right decision —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.201.233.200 (talk) 12:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe the reason that Microsoft chose to go with a POWER chip instead of another X86 chip was costs. Specifically, they couldn't own the rights to manufacture the  X86 chips, and thus they couldn't take the design to another foundry, meaning they would be stuck to the initial vendor to provide the chip over its lifetime, leading to a much slower drop in costs. By going with a custom-designed Power chip, and buying the IP rights from IBM for the design, it cost a little more to start, but now they can go to another foundry (IE: Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing, like they already have for the 65nm process shrink) to save money with a newer process, meaning each chip takes up less silicon, and each wafer yields more chips, et cetera. So yes, it's 'costs' in a way, just not "Power chips are cheaper than X86". -FrYGuY 09:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decision to go PowerPC 

message: Although correct in stating what the service offers, it is ambiguous in mentioning that this is only open to US users, and is not on offer currently to the European market.
:Made note that it was launched in the US, and it's open to US users.Meow07 23:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox Live - Video 

message: Sales have slowed down for the X306.
End November 2006, Xbox 360 sales were behind all major consoles except the PSP. Source: 
the statement that Xbox 360 sales were behind all major consoles isn't supported by the source cited, neither is the statement that sales have slowed, even if it is true.Spaceman99 17:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your clearly quoting things in a biased way. From your source it looks like Gears or War was the best selling game of the month, and that the Xbox 360 not only outsold the Wii, but it more than doubled the console sales on the PlayStation 3. Not to mention that “The 360 accounted for about 26 percent of total hardware dollar sales.” Meow07 23:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Just added it too, watching the feed also.Meow07 03:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Woo, little mistake there. Microsoft didn't sell 10.4 Million units. They SHIPPED that much units. Their goal was also about shipping and not selling. 213.157.11.227 09:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I assume they are rounding the numbers but 1.5 + 1.7 + 1.8 + 0.9 + 4.4 = 10.3 nutcrackr 06:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Microsoft tend to take units sold to mean units shipped while most everyone else accepts units sold in the literal sense. Since the source for the 10.4 mil figure is an MS employee (Robbie Bach) I don't think it should count as an unbiased independent figure. A more independent figure is here: http://www.vgcharts.org/. It says that the 360 is only at 9.77 mil on March 31, 2007. I think an independent source is better than info from a PR rep. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jordinho (talk • contribs) 03:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I saw this too and made the change.  It had been moved to the Sales section.  Good catch Skylights.  BTW, try messing around in the Sandbox to get used to the wiki markup. Davidyorke 00:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales figures 

message: According to Gamedaily, NPD informed them that several sites are wrongly crediting the sales figures from the CNBC report to NPD, and furthermore the actual NPD report will be released on January 11.  Dionyseus 13:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: CNBC figures aren't used in this article, so that's not very relevant.Meow07 23:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CNBC sales figures are wrong 

message: I added an external link to the Xbox 360 technical issues wiki page. It could provide some minor support to those searching for it.
--Chicito21154 21:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that wasn't an external link.  It was an internal link, and had already been linked from the 'Warranty' section in the article.  I've removed it from the external links. Syrthiss 21:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 Technical Issues 

message: The retail price for the xbox premium system in Australia is $599.00, not $645.00.
: No, it's $649.95, just like the article states. Meow07 18:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 Price In Australia 

message: Has anyone else noticed a Dashboard update from 2.0.4548 to 2.0.4552? I wonder what it includes.
203.214.114.182 13:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: January 2007 Dashboard Update

message: The page says that the Xbox 360 can have 4 wired or wireless controllers. This is not true. Since there are only 3 USB ports, you can have 3 wired or 4 wireless.
J3r3my 05:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How ghetto, why did they cheap out on USB ports?Pumapayam 17:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Controllers

message: There IS NO core version in Brazil. The only Xbox 360 launched in Brazil officially is a pack with premium version + 3 "free" games. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.43.193.77 (talk) 14:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true. There is no "Core" version being sold in Brazil. I'm changing this right now. --Ciao 90 18:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 core version in brazil. 

message: Xbox 360 encounters the Ring Of Death
One of the biggest catastrophes ever found on the Xbox 360. Professional Gamer 01:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There some articles writen about this   IGN's Matt Casamania has 4 broken 360s.. I think is very difficult write something about since any console can face problems and this article is spoted by Microsoft Fanboys. The Ring of Death can be turned into a nice article as Blue Screen of Death. --Ciao 90 12:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The guy is now on his fifth XBox.  Its pretty suspect which is probably why most neutral people are skeptical. You mention "MS fanboys", but I think its mainly "MS destractors" that revel in this kind of hearsay.  I dont consider some unknown guy who works for a marginally impt website to be some kind of unimpeachable authority.  Matt Casamania either has the worst luck in history, is doing something (deliberately) wrong, or the XBox 360 is one of the worst pieces of hardware ever made and has a huge percentage of failure.  The last one simply isnt true.  Annectdotally, I dont know *anyone* who has had one fail.  There are no mass reports from industry analysts of higher than trend failure rates, there is no consumer affairs investigation of MSFT for a fundamentally flawed/defective product and there are 10M+ and growing out there with increasingly good attach rates for the new hot games like GoW.  So really... What's the story?  The only way someone can have FIVE of one product fail, statistically, is if the product is a disaster, or they are repeating the SAME destructive action over and over and refusing to even consider user error.  Either that, or he's lying... Take your pick b/c the XB360 simply does NOT have such an outrageously high failure rate - its in line with what is typical for game consoles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.107.67.247 (talk) 09:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  As 70.107.67.247 says, this appears to be a unique case. Of all the people with 360s I know, not one has failed, but as with any console, there is presumably some specific behaviour that promotes hardware failure which that person is just repeating over and over (much like tipping the console with a disc inside scratches the disc), such as keeping it in an enclosed space (would you do that with a PC?). - Davidjk RC Patrol 12:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When someone's game console fails, they get on the internet and complain. However, if everyone who had a perfectly fine working 360 got on the internet and said that their 360 worked fine, then all the failing console threads would become flooded with working console threads. --Can Not 22:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ring Of Death