Talk:Oregon Bottle Bill

message: I'm indebted to a wonderful book, "Fire At Eden's Gate- Tom McCall and the Oregon Story" by Brent Walth for my contributions to this article (PDXer 20:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He gave almost enough information that anybody could provide an appropriate citation....  --Stratadrake 00:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: This article claims 5 cents initially.  I clearly remember the value being 3 cents initially... updated to 5 cents within the past 15 years.  I'm marking it WP:FACT. --Randal L. Schwartz (talk) 01:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember pre-bottle bill deposits of $0.02 and $0.03.  But of course, that was not the bottle bill.  As far as I can remember, it only applied to brown glass beer bottles, and there was something about a raised ring around the shoulder of the neck meaning something about the type of deposit.  —EncMstr (talk) 07:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five cents to start? 

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:The quote came from "Fire at Edens Gate".  Unfortunately I loaned my copy out so I will have to wait to get the page number.  I'm am going to revert back because I can vouch for the quote and Wikipedia is not censored.  Cacophony (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited quotations

message: * http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/future_of_oregons_historic_bot.html
--Another Believer (Talk) 14:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source 

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message: The Oregon Bottle Bill increased from 5 cents to 10 cents in April 2017, and will expand to all beverage containers except distilled spirits in 2018. Source: OLCC New Revised Bottle Bill. Wufan10304 (talk) 00:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2017 "10 cents" bottle return increase 

message: The last paragraph has some misleading or out-of-place statements.  "Many of these facilities are located in remote industrial parks" - What does this have to do with the retailer's requirements, and how many is many?  Also, there is an unsupported claim of increased trashing of redeemable containers.  While this may happen, the referenced citations don't support, or even reference, that claim. Jklemmack 4 Jan 2018  —Preceding undated comment added 17:14, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retailer Requirements 

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message: I like the general idea of a shelf of soda for the image, but those items aren't in US packaging. How about a close up of the side of a bottle that has the OR 10¢ shown?  Especially something that is covered by the Oregon law that most other states don't cover.
Adam850 (talk) 05:12, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , What do you think of the current lead image(s)? Also, I've removed :File:Removal of containers from recycling bins without permission.jpg, which I don't find particularly helpful. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

text: , well I changed it to what it is not for the reason you provided, but because of change in the law. It used to only cover carbonated beverages, but now a whole bunch of new things are covered. I included a few different kinds and marking on label as well as can tops. Thoughts? Graywalls (talk) 05:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image 

message: I've found that a lot of the contents in that section originates from Container Recycling Institute's Bottlebill.org page and references cited within their page. https://web.archive.org/web/20081005010417/http://www.bottlebill.org/about/mythfact.htm#src5 CRI is a self-proclaimed strong proponent of the Bottle Bill. This is a neutrality concern and some statistics maybe relevant for container deposit legislation but not to Oregon. Graywalls (talk) 21:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contents in context section 

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message: The article seems to present a point of view that is overwhelmingly against bottle deposit centers and the bottle deposit law. It does not provide necessary context and provides far too much granularity on controversial aspects of the centers in the wrong section. Sologkinz (talk) 06:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , My understanding is that a section titled "controversy" is generally best avoided, although it's only an essay WP:CRITICISM. The contents are properly sourced and it isn't overtly dependent on any single source and the sources are reliable sources, so I feel it passes NPOV. Graywalls (talk) 02:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-neutral POV