Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada Roads/Saskatchewan/Archive 1

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 22:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 15:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Ok guys, we need to boost things up. All roads in Saskatchewan need articles.Mitchazenia(Its my birthday!!!) 12:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactivity 

message: Please see the Saskatchewan Highway 667 article and talk page for more information. Thank you. Ultraflame 18:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Saskatchewan Highway 667]] marked for deletion by [[User:Tonyf12]]

message: Adding more to the article when I can. Ultraflame 03:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, someone removed the deletion template. You may ignore this if the deletion template does not come back up. Ultraflame 03:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Saskatchewan Highway 956]] marked for deletion by [[User:A Man In Black]]

message: As of July 13, 2007, all of the highways that have numbers between 1 and 99 have their own articles. I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to the WikiProject Saskatchewan Roads for this "occasion". Ultraflame 18:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Highways 1-99 Completed

message: I removed the templates improve this article or section, This article does not cite any references or sources, The subject of this article may not satisfy the notability guideline for this Highway article.  I added sections, references and sources, as well as additional subject to that all would be good again.  SriMesh | talk 18:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Saskatchewan Highway 623]]

message: Please see Talk:Saskatchewan Highway 8. Thank you. Ultraflame 23:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Saskatchewan Highway 8]] marked for deletion by [[User:Mitchazenia]]

message: Please see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Associated Canada provincial highway templates. Thank you. Ultraflame 23:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:Saskatchewan Provincial Highways]] marked for deletion

message: User:NE2 has been deleting the "Travel Route" sections from the Saskatchewan highway articles. When reading through the previous revisions of the articles that contained the Travel Route section, I have a feeling that the Travel Route section is not really needed, and often confusing. What should be our final decision on the Travel Route section? Ultraflame 02:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a travel guide. The section is also a copyright violation, assuming it's copied from the program. --NE2 02:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:NE2]] deleting "Travel Route" sections from highway articles

message: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Saskatchewan provincial roads. Thank you. Ultraflame 02:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Saskatchewan provincial roads]] marked for deletion

message: I added a few links to the project page, including a 1926 highway map. --NE2 03:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They appear to have the potential to be useful in the future. Perhaps one day we will have an "old highways" section, like in the List of Quebec provincial highways#Pre-1970s Routes. Thank you very much. In fact, I ask everyone interested to give their opinions on a section like this. I personally believe that it could be added for interesting historical information on Saskatchewan highways. Ultraflame 00:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Old maps

message: * 28 August - expires 2 September
** Range Road 3042 (Saskatchewan) (PROD by User:NE2; a gravel N-S roadway) --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletions ([[WP:PROD]]) 

message: Hello,
there are a number of Sasketchewan highways on the January backlog of the Notability wikiproject:
* Saskatchewan Highway 28
* Saskatchewan Highway 377
* Saskatchewan Highway 703
* Saskatchewan Highway 704
* Saskatchewan Highway 707
* Saskatchewan Highway 934
These articles have been tagged with notability questions since, well, January. They are all very short stubs that have never been expanded. I'm not quite sure what roads you would in general consider notable in the project. There's nothing bad about having stubs in principle; but if there's nothing to write about these highways, and no sources from which an article could be written, they might perhaps better be merged into an article of larger scope; such as an article about all highways, or all 7xx highways, with a section on each. What's your opinion on that? --B. Wolterding 18:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability of highways 

message: I'm having trouble finding evidence to support the existence of Saskatchewan Highway 704 - nothing in the SK Road Map or Google Maps. Can anyone supply sources, or perhaps determine if this was a now-defunct road designation? Otherwise, the article may need to be deleted. Dl2000 02:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Existence of SK Hwy 704? 

message: As shown at the Canada Roads Home Page, the project is beginning a complete restructuring. You are gonna be the next target. However, you have left your road articles in a complete disaster. I have gone to the trouble of expanding Saskatchewan Highway 913 to what should be a good road article. I am willing to help you guys out in doing this, but we should discuss this. I have plans for everything. Now will you agree to it?Mitch32contribs 14:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this article Saskatchewan Highway 58 is also close to being a good road article.  I will update  Saskatchewan Highway 913 for local terminology as it doesn't go through Whelan Bay New York at all.  Saskatchewan also doesn't have counties, we have rural municipalities as our rural governments, and census divisions for statistics Canada and federal ridings for federal elections and provincial constituencies for provincial elections, and so on, our health division and education school districts are again different, nothing has been amalgamated, so each new enterprise and endeavour in the province made their own regions.  The closest to a county in Saskatchewan is an RM.  SriMesh | talk 18:24, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We had the intersection template updated to include the divisions, I can ask someone if you'd like that changed.Mitch32contribs 18:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I think your plans are good even excellent, and it is also good that the road project is being given an overview, it has been very frustrating making articles just to have them go away and so it is not at all a very rewarding experience, if research work is done and then deleted, so there is no base for expansion. There also needs to be discussion about what a highway article should include. I think a highway is built to get somewhere so info about the somewhere should be included as it impacts the quantity of traffic on the road itself, and how it is constructed and what materials it is made of. A highway for grain trucks and semi trailers needs different construction than a highway for tourists going to the lake in the family car. Also the terrain the highway travels through is important as a highway traversing northern muskegs needs different construction than a highway through the southwestern sand dunes. There is a SK substitution template begun to which I added the infobox idea for the communities. askatchewan Highways templateSriMesh | talk 18:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for one, some of us are moving stuff from Wikiproject U.S. Roads to here, and you're rural municipalities thing can be included in our infobox - Look at SK 913 and Saskatchewan Highway 914 for examples of our infoboxes. What an article should include is based on the Canada Roads page.Mitch32contribs 18:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada Roads Restructuring 

message: Placed three articles Saskatchewan Highway 1, Saskatchewan Highway 11 Louis Riel Trail and Saskatchewan Highway 58 under peer review to help improve quality levels.  Any comments appreciated.SriMesh | talk 04:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review

message: Added also external links in this regard to Roads in Saskatchewan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SriMesh (talk • contribs) 02:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: Saskatchewan Highway 16 Saskatchewan Highway 58 and Saskatchewan Highway 1 are at GAN  SriMesh | talk 04:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GAN

message: Naming conventions discussion started here.  Please help with protocol.  Thank you.  SriMesh | talk 02:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming of Government Departments MoS

message: Discussion about a possible template revision started for segments of highways with name designations. SriMesh | talk 04:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template talk:Jctint|Template revision assistance for highway segment names]]

message: Discussion started here...RM about using just the name and not the added number for display in such things as highway article infoboxes.  Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 20:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rural Municipalities

message: In 2008, a Wikimeetup was sceduled for those interested in editing Saskatchewan articles.  Is there interest for a 2009 Wiki meet up?  In 2008 Craik was chosen as a mid-point between the two major cities, Saskatoon and Regina, and it coincided with the Craik Sustainable Living Project (CSLP) Solar Fair and Trade Show. June 20 and 21, 2009.  Please comment on the here on this talk page.  Is spring a better time for folks, or would late fall be better after harvest? Summer may crash into holidays and vacation times.SriMesh | talk 18:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Meet up 2009

message: How do I find the Junction mileage for the junction lists? - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 11:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mile By Mile is not a reliable source.<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT>32(Want help? See here!) 21:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Use the links on the project pages for the highway volumes and highway classification types etc as the provincial government forgot to type pdf into the link, and they won't open unless you modify the link.  This has been corrected on the WP SK roads project page -  maybe the government site has been fixed now.SriMesh | talk 22:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the above note about mile by mile, I know they were volunteer, but didn't know they were not precise, so the other sites are more accurate.SriMesh | talk 22:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junction Mileage 

message: Infobox:
File:Saskatchewan Highway 7.svg|Current
File:Saskatchewan Highway 8.svg|No wheat
File:Saskatchewan Highway 7 (jct).svg|PD-wheat
:
File:Saskatchewan Highway 7.svg|Current
File:Saskatchewan Highway 8.svg|No wheat
File:Saskatchewan Highway 7 (jct).svg|PD-wheat
*Above you can see both option 1 and option 2. The PD-wheat version is nearly identical as small scale, but looks far too different for the infobox. Currently I am leaning towards using the blank (or no wheat) for infoboxs and using the PD-wheat for the jct template. If in the future someone wanted to add more accurate versions to each infobox, they could just upload the images on Wikipedia with a fair use rational. Thoughts?--Svgalbertian (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Preview

message: I am somewhat at an impasse here. I think we might be able to get permission to use the actual version, we just need to get something clarified by the Saskatchewan government.
SriMesh got in touch Sask Government to get permission to host some of her photos of signs. That permission is logged into ORTS as 2011011410009399. The actual email logged is:
Thank you for your email inquiry. My apologies for taking so long to get back to you.
The Ministry of Highways and Infrastructure certainly appreciates your organization asking for permission to take photos of a public provincial highway or nearby signs and outlining your intentions to post them to your website.
You don't require the Ministry's permission to engage in this activity. The Ministry views your proposal as no different than a journalist or photographer taking images and then publishing them in a newspaper, periodical, on an website or via some other electronic communications vehicle.
However, the Ministry would like to remind you to use caution when capturing these images to help ensure not only your safety, but the safety of others. If you're driving to a location and need to pull over to take photos, please stop at rest areas off the highway or ensure you're stopped on the shoulder as close as possible to the ditch in an area visible to other motorists and during good weather conditions.
This doesn't quite apply to illustrations, or duplication of the "Saskatchewan Wheat Sheaf", but it gives hope they may be willing to allow it. While I am still willing to finish this request, I rather not bother myself with wading through bureaucracy. So if someone wants to try contacting them, it would help move this forward.--Svgalbertian (talk) 17:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I hadn't noticed the difference between the sheaves until you said something.  I think the solid sheaves look fine. –Fredddie™ 19:26, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: NOTE:  I did ask permission from the Ministry of Highways, and permissions were granted to photograph the highway shields and any signage for wikipedia articles,  the note is in wikimedia commons.  The permission request specifically mentioned also the Saskatchewan wheat sheaf.  So go ahead and photograph highway signs.  Just refer to online highway sign images at wikimedia commons, if I remember correctly.  Permission is OK fine.  SriMesh | talk 17:30, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Permissions granted to photograph SK shields, markers, signs, &c posted by Minismtry of Highways

message: Moving a comment from the aforementioned article to here as Provincial Roads in northern Saskatchewan will be up for deletion...it was a list type article for 900 series provincial roads, but only covered 903 and 904....now those articles Saskatchewan Highway 903 and Saskatchewan Highway 904 have their own page.  The talk page introduced some good clusters which follow verbatim 
:*ALSO, should discuss if these 900 series roads/highways are Saskatchewan Highways or Provincial Roads, AND if anyone has an image of the shield used by Ministry of Highways, as permissions were proferred to use images of the highway shields by the Ministry of Highways and is on file at Wikimedia commons, but the 900 series is not photographed as a sample to make a template....Does anyone live or travel north?  Subtopics which follow are the aforementioned talk page comments
SriMesh | talk 17:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Provincial Roads in northern Saskatchewan is  now deleted, and other road articles 903 904 are now createdSriMesh | talk 21:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Provincial Roads in northern Saskatchewan talk page

message: I wonder what the best way to organize these is. Are there official or unofficial regions of northern Saskatchewan, or is numerical order best?
Note that a few of the main routes, like Provincial Road 905, will have "main article" links like so:
--NE2 18:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There are definitely clusters of routes, but I'm not sure if there are good names for the regions:
*Meadow Lake area: 903, 904, 919, 950, 951, 954, 965
*Big River area: 916, 917, 921, 922, 923, 924, 929, 939, 942, 943, 945, 946
*Timber Bay area and east: 911, 912, 913, 920, 926, 927, 928, 930, 931, 952, 953, 963, 967, 969
*La Ronge area: 910, 914, 915, 935, 936
*Beauval area and northwest: 908, 909, 918, 925, 955, 956
*Hudson Bay area: 980, 981, 982, 983, 984
*Northern areas: 905, 962, 968, 994, 995, 999
--NE2 19:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clusters

message: Presumably back in 2007 the intent was to create an overall article to cover the 900-series highways. However since then individual articles have been created for all of the 900-series roads, no matter how minor, with the exception of the 3 spotlighted in this article. I suggest deleting this article as redundant (no reflection on the original editors, of course) and separate articles be created for the individual highways in keeping with how all the other Saskatchewan Highway articles are being maintained. 68.146.80.110 (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Provincial Roads in northern Saskatchewan is  now deleted, and other road articles 903 904 are now createdSriMesh | talk 21:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Recommend article deletion and separate road articles created

message: As per WikiProject_Canada_Roads discussion a new category is now created Category:Memorial roads of Canada, Sk Hwy 2 Veteran's Memorial Highway was added, discussion should ensue if the Red Coat Trail and Louis Riel Trail should also be added or if these two belong to Category:Historic trails and roads in Canada only SriMesh | talk 18:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Red Coat Trail seems like a memorial to the north-west mounties, but the LRT seems more like a commemorative route / historic trail. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 21:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, I will add the Red Coat Trail, and not the Louis Riel Trail...The reason why I considered the LRT was the definition of a veteran being ...A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns(from the free dictionary), and Louis Riel seemed to have been involved in a few political campaigns.  SriMesh | talk 22:44, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: New Category Category:Memorial roads of Canada

message: There is currently a discussion taking place at WT:HWY regarding the potential use of coordinates in highway articles. Your input is welcomed. --Rschen7754 01:37, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC on coordinates in highway articles

message: Template:Saskatchewan Highways has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. VanIsaacWScontribs 07:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|Nomination for deletion]] of [[Template:Saskatchewan Highways]] 

message: Most of the pages at :Category:Saskatchewan provincial highways have been tagged as references needed since their creation years ago. Anyone have any ideas of where we can get valid refs for these articles? - SimonP (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced articles 

message: Please see the above discussion. Rschen7754 04:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada Roads#Inactive subproject talk pages]]