Talk:Penistone

message: I'd heard that rookie reporters for local TV news stations were traditionally send to Penistone to see if they could keep a straight face when reading the name. Could just be an urban myth, but is very plausible...
: Astatine 13:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Urban Myth?

message: The section in this article on the pronunciation of Penistone could be a lot better. Do people really need convincing that the first part of the name doesn't rhyme with penis?
- Yes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.137.127 (talk) 16:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No it isn't. 'Penis' in the name rhymes with 'Dennis'. Narky Blert (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: no i live there too and it's pronounced penis stone Wikipedia Wonderful 698-D (talk) 02:44, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: This must be one of the most graffitti'd places in the country Lovefist233 (talk) 12:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Heh

message: When I last drove through I though the White Hart was no longer open - perhaps someone nearer could check and amend to something like 'former white Hart now a ....' if I am correct in my recollection
80.193.82.66 (talk) 14:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Hart 

message: Well, that really fixes it geographically doesn't it - only 17 miles from such an important and universally revered metropolis as Glossop..? Just a suggestion, but wouldn't Penistone's location in relation to, for example, Sheffield, Manchester or Leeds have more general usefulness? JohnB57 (talk) 20:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  17 miles (27 km) north east of Glossop? 

message: The article states that the etymology of Penistone is of Cornish origin. This is not explained nor is it likely to be correct. Cornish is a language whose geographic range was quite small, and by the time the place-name of Penistone was established Cornish was spoken in a small enclave west of the River Tamar. It is, however, one of the Brythonic group of languages including also the relatively more diverse Cymraeg (Welsh) and Breton (spoken in Brittany in France). Cymraeg, although not necessarily modern Welsh, was spoken in these parts and is therefore a much more likely root source for place-names, and the word penn (meaning ‘hill’) is a popular, topographically obvious, naming element in all three languages. Locally the element appears in the range of hills upon which Penistone stands, the Pennines, and not many miles away in the dales there is the peak with a very Welsh name, Pen-Y-Ghent. 
Cymraeg, or an earlier version of it, was the native tongue across much of what we now call England and even up into lowland Scotland. In Yorkshire there is good evidence that it was the language of the people throughout the Romano-British period since it re-emerged as the ‘official’ language of the short-lived Kingdom of Elmet which physically stretched from around York to around Sheffield. Elmet came into being in about the fifth to sixth century AD in that period between the legions leaving and the establishment of the Anglian Kingdoms of Deira and Bernicia, later combined as Northumbria. In the Barnsley area there are two townships that bear the name Bretton (monk Bretton and West Bretton), a name almost certainly given by the incoming Angles recognising the origins of the controlling interests in those places.
For authoritative support for my argument here, please refer to A Goodall,(1913) Place-names of South-West Yorkshire, being those parts of the West Riding south of the Aire from Keighley onwards; A H Smith, (1961), Place-names of Yorkshire; more recently in Ayto and Crofton (2005), Brewer’s Britain & Ireland in which their place-name adviser was Dr Paul Cavil a leading academic with the English place-names unit at the University of Nottingham.--SouthernFrog (talk) 11:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: Substituted at 02:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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