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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Archive 2

message: There is currently a debate in Talk:Ethnic Swedes on whether that subject merits an article of its own.
Around the Baltic Sea, which is one of my areas of interest, there are for instance the following notable and historically relevant groups of people (the list is copied from User talk:Jmabel:
* Livonian people
* Ingrians and Votes
* Karelians
* Finnic, Finnish, Ethnic Finns, Sweden-Finns, Finns
* Sami
* Norwegian
* Swedes, Ethnic Swedes, Finland-Swedes
* Dane, Ethnic Danish
* Germans, Ethnic German, Auslandsdeutsche, Volksdeutsche–Reichsdeutsche, Baltic German, Volga German
* Sorbs
* Slavic peoples
* Poles (and Russians, forgotten in the origianl list)
* Latvians
It's most of all an issue of whether creating many relatively similar articles or "centralizing" them. A problem arises when a particular issue is edited away from such a centralized article. For instance: If now Ethnic Swedes is centralized to the article on Swedes, and then the (somewhat controversial) content on Ethnic Swedes for one or another reason is diminished or erased, then it's likely that someone again will start on an article on Ethnic Swedes. Why then not keep a minimal article at Ethnic Swedes, not much more than a notion of the (very) limited use of the term and a reference to the article on Swedes. But on the other hand: many articles with subjects closely interrelated enhances the inherent danger of contradictions between Wikipedia articles.
Input would be welcome.
--Ruhrjung 06:26, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  On how to name the articles
Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Butterface

message: * I would like to put myself on the record as being strongly in favor of re-creating the article on Butterface. The concept is part of modern popular culture and its relative offensiveness should have zero relevance on its worthiness for inclusion in Wikipedia. If the existing page was seen as sophmoric or not up to the standards of Wikipedia, then the proper response is to fix the article, not to destroy it. After all, if Butterface is removed then what is to stop us from removing the article on toilet humor as well? --Ensrifraff 08:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guardian angels are protecting the article on toilet humor.  I once tried to have it removed and God himself smote me.  Also thugs wearing red berets, they beat me up.  It would seem Butterface is not as highly regarded in the kingdom of heaven.--Paraphelion 08:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Andrew Bobola

message: In agreement with German Wiki article and Catholic Encyclopedia I suggest to change the article's name to Andrew Bobola or St Andrew Bobola. --Irpen 08:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we have some guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints - or at least more people willing to comment on this.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, it has been long enough. I am going to move this to an anglicized name and if anyone objects, please say so and explain. --Irpen 19:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Source for "an Apostle of Pinszczyzna" and "a hunter of souls" would be nice, and pinszczyzna may be mispelling of pańszczyzna perhaps?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got a feeling that pinszczyzna has something to do with Pinsk. --Ghirla | talk 09:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicknames

message: This is rather relevant: see Pope_Pius_XII_and_Poland#Background:_the_Andrzej_Bobola_affair.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  21:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Remembrance in the Second Republic

message: Could we have a reference to this statement?  I have seen a print of the 'icon', but I suspect the "some" is very limited. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: so shall we remove this section? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 03:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today some join St. Andrew with St. Peter the Aleut 
Talk:Vlad Tepes (band)

message: I'm not sure how this survived since they haven't released a single full-length non-demo album.  I'd recommend playing this band up some more so some trigger-happy fed-up-with-Wikipedia-becoming-a-warehouse-for-unnotable-bands type person like me doesn't nominate it again.  —Wknight94 (talk) 01:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:BAND]] 

message: I find it hard to believe Vlad Tepes is still active as the article states.  If someone could find a reliable source for this information that would be great —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.73.199.69 (talk) 18:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Still Active?
Talk:List of CPU architectures

message: Most of the items discussed here are instruction set architectures, but the PowerPC 440 is a processor chip.  Should it refer to PowerPC Book E instead? Guy Harris 08:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PowerPC 440, or PowerPC Book E? 

message: I thought Notable was a prerequisite... why not move the article to CPU architectures and then keep it as only notable ones through savagely guarding the article - I mean, achieving consensus (how do you keep the non-notable CPU architectures out now?)02:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this '''Notable''' CPU architectures? 

message: "CPU architectures" is ambiguous. It has been used to describe either an ISA or a microarchitecture in common usage. A formal term should be used to prevent confusion and to define exactly what this list is for. Rilak (talk) 07:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also another page, list of instruction sets, that should be merged or differentiated. Zabacad (talk) 05:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISA or microarchitecture? 

message: We already have a page with a list of instruction sets, list of instruction sets, so there's no need for a separate list page.  (If "CPU architecture" is interpreted as microarchitecture, we definitely don't need a list of those; that would be list of microprocessors, which is questionable enough, plus all the non-microprocessor-based microarchitectures, such as just about every computer built before the microprocessor.) Guy Harris (talk) 20:37, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be smart list if some of this article would be merged into the list of instruction sets. But categorization itself would be sometimes usable for someone to recall some architecture names. Probably, computer architecture itself should be discussed from various point of view. Cafeduke (talk) 00:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

text: They should all be merged in now. Guy Harris (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This should just be merged into [[List of instruction sets]]
Talk:List of urban areas in Norway by population

message: The name in English should be List of metropolitan areas in Norway by population, as per List of metropolitan areas by population for example. - Gilliam 08:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a difference between an urban area and a metropolitan area.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 00:42, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Kristiansund have merged with Frei municipality, so the numberof inhabitants are outdated. The correct number of inhabitants should be 22 661  Could someone fix that? thx =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KS-U92 (talk • contribs) 
:Same municipality, different urban area. . This list is about urban areas. Punkmorten (talk) 07:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kristiansund census 

message: Please do not make up statistics. I had to correct the number for Oslo - it was higher than it should have been because someone felt the need to calculate their own number based on the entire populations of the municipalities in the urban area. That's not what this statistic is! Each of the municipalities has some populated areas that are not connected to the urban area, and the populations of those areas are not included in those areas. Using the entire populations of the municipalities is therefore unacceptable. The list should be identical to this list until it is updated by SSB. --Aqwis (talk) 09:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the 97K figure for Kristiansand is much more than the 60K figure supported by SSB. An urban area is not a municipality.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 00:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made-up statistics 

message: Template talk:Most populous urban areas of Norway to see my recommendation for updating this list.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 00:42, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Go to 

message: Use SSB census data instead. 
Tromsø is about twice the size. 193.71.141.189 (talk) 17:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong population numbers
Talk:Spaceship Zero

message: No television show ever existed. No radio play ever existed. No film production ever existed. Wikipedia is not the place to further the Spaceship Zero hoax. Facts and facts only. --Dogbreathcanada 08:37, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For those that seem offended by the factual representation on the humourous ruse/hoax upon which the game (and CD) are based, I've added a spoiler warning to the page, confining all mention of the hoax/ruse to the marketing section of the article. --Dogbreathcanada 18:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Television Show, Radio Play, Film Production 

message: SSZ the RPG was never planned to be released simultaneously with the CD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.245.193.3 (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the RPG was not planned to be released with the CD, but I am quite sure that the CD and RPG were supposed to be released withing a month or so of each other. Not simultaneous, of course, but close enough. I'll alter that so that the intended simultaneous nature of the releases is clearer. --Dogbreathcanada 21:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RPG release date 

message: I'll be merging the CD section over to The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets entry, as I go through a large expansion of the information there, based on a lot of detailed history supplied to me by Warren Banks. --Dogbreathcanada 00:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added two hatnotes to make this clear and easy to navigate. A 'seealso' link points from the Thickets music album to this page. A 'main' link points from this page's CD section to the Thicket's page. --Culix (talk) 03:11, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Apparently someone has issue with the neutrality of the Marketing section. Are there particular words that anyone has a problem with? The facts behind the marketing aren't to be disputed. This was the "background" of the game as developed by the game designers. --Dogbreathcanada 23:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality Dispute
Talk:Sweet Sixteen (2002 film)

message: :"typical locations which suffered immensely from the Thatcherite policy of closing down shipyards which plunged millions of people into unemployment, with the intention of driving through her economic reforms
This reads like a thinly veiled, irellevant and incorrect attack on Thatcherism. Emoscopes Talk 10:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Based on a single viewing of the film I believe Liam was indeed sent to kill Pinball, and actually did, off-screen. I plan to make this change unless other editors object. -Sara FB (talk) 18:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it seems that was left intentionally vague, so I will make this point on the page unless others wish to object/discuss. There are many sources I can and will cite. - Sara FB (talk) 01:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinball subplot 

message: The text that I amended stated that the dialect employed was the Inverclyde variant of Glaswegian. That A is similar to B does not make it a "variant" of the other, or vice versa. The Independent clarifiying for a UK-wide readership that Greenock is near Glasgow only relates to geography. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:21, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialect
Talk:Deep One

message: Deep One (Cthulhu mythos) → Deep One – Move, since there are only two meanings for Deep One, and since the Deep One (X-COM race) article acknowledges in the intro that it is based on the Cthulhu mythos creatures. (Following the move, a hatnote could be placed at the top of the Deep One article directing users to the Deep One (X-COM race) article as the alternate meaning.)
*Note. A history merge would be required; note the following visual aid:
What history should like after move
Deep One (Cthulhu mythos) history	newest
Deep One history                 	oldest
-,-~R'lyehRising~-,- 08:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: I've always had the idea Deep Ones worshipped Cthulhu, which is also stated in this article. However, I haven't found any actual Lovecraft source to prove it; does anyone here know some? -Monstrim (talk) 20:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shadow Over Innsmouth says it's so, right? "For the present they would rest; but some day, if they remembered, they would rise again for the tribute Great Cthulhu craved". --81.233.196.49 (talk) 21:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And I missed that how? Monstrim (talk) 03:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cthulhu worshipping 

message: Would a section mentioning famous examples of creatures inspired to the Deep Ones be of any interest? Off the top of my head, we have the Gill-man, Abe Sapien, the creature from The Shape of Water, the creature from Sweetheart. Plus the actual The Shadow over Innsmouth film adaptations or direct references. --Kumagoro-42 (talk) 10:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Deep Ones in popular culture?
Talk:Puruṣārtha

message: Previously the article noted Kāma - "sensual pleasure, eros", before the other aims of life. This makes it appear that the primary aim in the life of a Hindu is sensual pleasure. This is not so. Hindu scriptures do not list the aims of life in this way. The correct order of the aims of life is as it is in the article now. It seems that Kāma - "sensual pleasure, eros" was mentioned first with malicious intent and to bring disrepute to Hindus. The correct order is found in the article itself, Dharma occupies the first place in the four categories of human goals, because the pursuit of security, artha, and pleasures, kama, need to be governed by ethical standards. Artha, striving for security, comes second, because it is the foremost desire of everyone. Everyone is obedient under the doctor's scalpel precisely because everyone wants to live. Granted life, one then wants to be happy, to pursue pleasures, kama. I want to live and live happily; and both pursuits, the struggle for security and the search for pleasure, must be governed by ethics. The last category is the goal of liberation, moksa, ranked last because it becomes a direct pursuit only when one has realized the limitations inherent in the first three pursuits. This is the correct order of the aims of life and I hope that it will be allowed to remain in the correct order.Civilizededucation (talk) 07:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear IP, I think I have got myself misunderstood. When I said correct order of four aims of life, I meant "correct order of four aims of life according to the Hindu concept of Purusartha" and not in general. Since Purusartha is the subject matter of this article, I thought that it would be obvious. Anyway, I have clarified my explanation. You can also discuss the changes you want on this talk page.Civilizededucation (talk) 15:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  correct order of four aims of life 

message: There is a lot of pure, organization speculation in this article that should be cleaned up, organized, and cross-checked.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhipill (talk • contribs) 19:38, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation
Talk:Muchukunda

message: The mythical nature of this needs to be made plain. A naive reader could easily take this to be some factually historical real person. sorry I'm not best placed to this style of change to this article, I'm hoping one of *you* take this on :-) Paul Beardsell (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth!
Talk:Shambara

message: Sambara apears in some verses of the Rigveda as person but in other verses as a location. See f.e. Rigveda 1.51.6a, 1.54.4a and 1.59.6b, also Markandeya Purana 22, 31 seems to mean a location.--178.208.180.177 (talk) 10:44, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sambara is also a location! 

message: This information is incorrect as Bhanamati is his mother not wife. Please don't put incorrect information 157.119.179.45 (talk) 14:47, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bhanamati was his mother not Rati's incarnation. The information is incorrect
Talk:Kalpavriksha

message: I removed the references to Parjat and Sikhism as it is inapplicable.  Parjat is one of many India specific concepts which are mentioned and re-defined in Sikh texts.  Further explanation can be seen in this article for example:
https://www.gurbani.org/gurblog/parjat/
One example being the following verse:
ਬਿਰਖੁ ਜਮਿਓ ਹੈ ਪਾਰਜਾਤ ॥ ਫੂਲ ਲਗੇ ਫਲ ਰਤਨ ਭਾਂਤਿ ॥ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਅਘਾਨੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣਹ ਗਾਇ ॥ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਇ ॥ : by remembering and practicing the divine Wisdom / Virtues, PARJAT (wish fulfilling metaphorical tree) has sprouted Within me, which has been laden with precious Virtues like many kinds of flowers and fruits. (I am now) fully satisfied living with the divine Wisdom / Virtues. Jan Nanak, always remember the divine Naam (Wisdom / Virtues). (ਪੰਨਾ 1180).
The use of Parjat is explicitly metaphorical and not meant in any literal way. 
Furthermore, someone included this line in the section on Sikhism, which I've also expunged.
== Sikhism === In Sikhism, the Sri Guru Granth Sahib's scriptures have various references to the tree, more commonly referring to it as "Parjat", which translates to "Elysian Tree".
I have no idea where this concept of "Elysian Tree" comes from and it seems to be manufactured out of whole cloth, perhaps to ensure the Sikhism section isn't blank. 207.194.38.164 (talk) 18:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sikhism
Talk:Masami Ihara

message: I've given this a shot and cleaned up the article. By the way, Ihara has never played for FC Tokyo. ;) Comments welcome. Ondog 09:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Jayapala

message: Is Zabul supposed to be Zabulistan? --Dangerous-Boy 09:18, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zabul? 

message: Ancestry of Hindu Shahi is mentioned in hindu shahi article. It needs to be referenced here
Why someone undo it ?@Vif12vf Zain engineer (talk) 14:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You added the claim that he has a Janjua, and another editor has recently added the claim that he was a Jat. And I've seen other claims (such as Brahmin etc.) by editors trying to promote their own social group. First of all, the caste/ethnicity/tribal affiliation doesn't belong the lead here as per MOS:ETHNICITY, especially when it's contested. Secondly, the sources that you folks are citing are outdated books, including those by colonial civil servants such as Wolseley Haig and Vincent Arthur Smith: as discussed several times at WP:RSN (example) and elsewhere, these are not acceptable sources. utcursch | talk 07:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestry of Jayapala
Talk:Nam Cheong (KCR)

message: Nam Cheong Station is considered to be a station shared by the two railway companies, MTR (Tung Chung Line) and KCR (West Rail). I think we should merge this article with article:Nam Cheong (MTR).
:I am so glad to see somebody agreeing with me, but next time sign your name first.  Patrickov 14:32, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge this article with "Nam Cheong (MTR)"
Talk:Raktabīja

message: I  want to know 41.136.136.208 (talk) 14:45, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Raktabija
Talk:Anthony Berkeley Cox

message: Does it bother anyone else that this article is apparently plagiarised from the website cited at the bottom, and/or that that website is effectively being advertised here? Would it be possible for someone with access to reliable sources to write a fuller and less obviously copied article about this not unimportant genre author?
Dum spiro spero.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.154.153 (talk) 12:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism?
Talk:Prasuti

message: The name Prasuti is rarely used for Daksha's wife. The names and numbers of Daksha's wives are uncertain due to the difference in the legends found in different Hindu texts. Most modern encyclopaedias prefer Asikni as Daksha's wife. It would be better if Prasuti is merged into Asikni (goddess) and legends about her are mentioned there. .💠245CMR💠.•👥📜 11:51, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Request
Talk:Pramathesh Barua

message: Was he Bengali or Assamese? The article suggests he was Assamese, while the category marks him as Bengali. --Ragib (talk) 17:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He was born in Assam, studied in Hare School etc. and worked in Calcutta. Whether he can be called Bengali or not, I am not sure, but he was 'Bengali Actor' for sure, as he acted in Bengali films.GDibyendu (talk) 17:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there needs to be a distinction between "Actors who are Bengali by ethnicity", and "Actors who acted in Bengali-language films". :Category:Bengali actors actually refers to the former, so probably Barua does not count considering his Bengali film career. Consider Mithun Chakrabarty - he is a Bengali actor (by ethnicity) working (mainly) in Hindi films. --Ragib (talk) 17:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  Agreed with the point. Removed him from :Category:Bengali actors. But, Mithun acts in Bengali films also. GDibyendu (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bengali? 

message: I have restored the article to the version of 12 September 2011 with some minor clean up and addition of possible sources for expansion. See . Unfortunately, the later additions were not helpful as the English grammar, spelling, and punctuation were of a standard that made the article incomprensible. Although copyvio added after 12 September was removed on October 16, the post October 16 additions still contained many phrases which seem to have been taken verbatim from:
*Chatterji, Shoma. P. C. Barua. Delhi: Wisdom Tree.  
and/or
*Chatterji, Shoma A. (15 October 2009). "Pramathesh Chandra Barua-The First Star in Bengali Cinema". Calcutta Tube
Voceditenore (talk) 16:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: November 2011
Talk:Vikram Bhatt

message: ==Untitled==
Has anyone had the time to look at his ripoffs? He is hardly creative, stealing an entire scene from the matrix, except his crappy version had so many more continuity errors. He even photoshoped one scence RIGHT from the movie. He should be branded as such. GrandKokla (talk) 18:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ripoffs

message: Has anyone had the time to look at his ripoffs? He is hardly creative, stealing an entire scene from the matrix, except his crappy version had so many more continuity errors. He even photoshoped one scence RIGHT from the movie. He should be branded as such. GrandKokla (talk) 18:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled