Talk:Dying Earth

message: I heard that this is where the famous grue was first mentioned, well, anywhere. -- Guitarmankev1 (TALK) 19:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: and the erb, and the deeodand, and many more. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:71CD:A23E:F429:F24A (talk) 15:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See wikt:deodand —Tamfang (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Grue??

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message: This hour I have replaced a stub article about the omnibus edition by WP:REDIRECT to this article on the book series. It's talk page continues but I now reproduce the substantial Talk here. (I was the only Talkster except that User:Narayan agreed "Tales of the Dying Earth" has no distinct value.) 
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I don't know whether these references have any value, or know if and how they were used at the Stub where they were cited. For instance, I don't see mention of 'The Compleat Dying Earth. 
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thread_title:  Stub redirected here: Tales of the Dying Earth 

message: That [now-replaced stub (preceding section)] called the omnibus edition a short story collection. I think that is too simple for use but I am not certain.
Only the first and fourth of four books were marketed as collections. From ISFDB i understand that all four provided tables of contents, but two were marketed as novels. The second was overtly a fix-up of six stories, five previously published. ISFDB catalogs the third as a novel rather than a fix-up, but also qualifies that label: "This is marketed as a novel, but there is a table of contents, and some of the parts were previously published (although none are acknowledged thus)."
Was any omnibus edition marketed as a short story collection or somewhere catalogued as one? 
How many previously published short fictions does the omnibus edition acknowledge?
Should this article be in some short story categories, as the stub was classified? --P64 (talk) 20:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Short story collection"

message: For now, which I should have labeled {underconstruction}, I have grouped Related Works (having exported the sequels) and Influence as "Legacy" and relegated that to the end (3).
 
In this and my next session, i must clean up the nitty-gritty that is now grouped as main section 2. I don't know anything about the legacy except what I read here. How much of it should be covered in "Dying Earth subgenre" which now covers Vance as a latecomer who gave the field its name?
Should a film or videogame set on a dying earth be called Vancean? or considered part of the Dying Earth subgenre? If not, how much more specific and how distinct are those two? --P64 (talk) 20:15, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy 

message: ISFDB provides bibliographic data for the four recent short works that are now covered here as sequels. It is also the source for that status in three cases (Sylgarmo and two versions of Sarnod), by cataloguing them as part of the Dying Earth series. A previous editor is the source for the fourth case (Hew) which is not supported by ISFDB.
I have examined Songs of the Dying Earth and found no indication that Sylgarmo or Sarnod differs in status from the other works collected there. The preface by Vance is general and the one-page story introductions by the editors say nothing to the point.
Perhaps we should remove all that to Talk space and say that some short fiction sharing Vance's setting has sometimes been called sequel or canon but none is confirmed.
Does anyone know whether Vance (born 1916) communicates with fans or scholars about his work? --P64 (talk) 18:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about lately, but the fannish Vance Integral Edition project had several work parties at his house. —Tamfang (talk) 03:07, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's the possibility to ask questions to Jack at this forum, but I don't know if he still answers.--Narayan (talk) 20:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reported sequels 

message: This sentence ends rather abruptly: In the late 1940s several of his stories were published in magazines, but none of these. I looked back through a few months edits, but haven't found the missing part. Autarch (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins - unfinished sentence 

message: The inconsistencies in the Cugel novels are many. The fact that the novels were derived from short stories written independently and then combined explains this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.30.134.32 (talk) 03:25, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies Explained