Talk:The Rev

message: In this Avenged Sevenfold article, it states that Synyster Gates says that The Rev is cool and the God of drums Someone should look into this more so that we can get info for this guy's article. --CanesOL79 15:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember, religious could mean Christian, Satanist, Pagan, or whatever. All I know is that someone claimed that Synyster Gates said that The Rev is religous maybe.email the band or contact their myspace or something. --CanesOL79 21:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Rev is Religious 

message: he was not gay.
Nope Avenged Sevenfold FoREVeR (talk) 20:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Needs To Be Cleaned Up 

message: Hello chaps - I've cleaned this up. Please try and refrain from phrases such as 'he was heard saying' unless you can back it up with a reliable source! Thanks, Hawker Typhoon 02:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikify 

message: Hiya everyone :) Please source this material reliably and verifiably (see WP:CITE). That means no MySpace. Social pages, blogs, etc are not reliable sources. That means that, as acceptable sources go, this article has just one. I know this guy's got to have a lot of fans since this article's survived so long--won't someone rescue the Rev before someone nominates him for deletion? Wysdom 17:22, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources, please 

message: Please read and love and live WP:BLP and WP:CITE. Myspace=NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE. And the one that was used for the reference for his alleged engagement/marriage--I went there just on the off chance that there was posted somewhere a quote, snippet, whatever from a "real" source (so I wouldn't have to just be mean and delete the info?) but c'mon, people! Private page??? 
Biographies of living people are taken seriously here--you can't just say whatever you want. Learn what reliable sources are and cite them when you're adding info. If you don't have a reliable source (by Wikipedia's definition) to back it, don't add it. Thanks! Wysdom 10:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Christ, don't get me started on these articles! It's a full time job keeping them clean. If you say anything even slightly iffy, remove it hard and fast. Better to have no information than incorrect information! Hawker Typhoon 00:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up again 

message: The Rev's birthday is February 9th, 1981.  There is finally something in print to confirm this - Shadows had the crowd sing happy birthday to him on February 9th at their Spokane, Washington gig per an article by Sarah Linker writing in the Daily Evergreen: "Later, the band announced that it was The Rev’s (the drummer’s) birthday. The crowd was invited to sing along to the “Happy Birthday” tune before A7X proceeded to play the next song."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinkbat (talk • contribs) 20:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthday 

message: This article is fancruft, particularly the detailed breakdown of the hardware.67.163.175.48 (talk) 23:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fancruft 

message: There is no information regarding the cause of death for Sullivan and no links to the claim that he perished as a result of trama from falling. This needs to be removed as many come to this site for factual guidence and do not look for sources attached. Lk1016 (talk) 08:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Rev's Cause of Death

message: A 28 year old can not die of natural causes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.46.64 (talk) 04:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They sure can.  --HubHikari (talk) 05:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: ...Are you kidding me?  "Natural causes" can refer to anything from a stroke to a heart condition to cancer.  Are you telling me you've never known, or at least heard of, someone at the age of 28 or younger who died of cancer?  If you haven't, I suggest you visit a children's hospital.  137.186.145.70 (talk) 01:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Since police officials used the term, it should most assuredly be used until the true cause of death is known.  It comes from an official source, and therefore falls within Wikipedia's standards. Given that The Rev was well known for his own special brand of debauchery, I doubt it will remain the official cause of death, but until the autopsy results come back, it's the best we've got.  Leave it be.  137.186.145.70 (talk) 01:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural Causes? 

message: Advertising a Facebook campaign group? This is Wikipedia folks, not some message board. Let's purge this shit.
I considered complaining to myself about the plugging, but instead I decided to delete it. I intended to clean up the rest of the article but the blatant fanboy faggotry is making my eyes hurt. --Tim Rampage 11:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lose the advertising 

message: ==Death==
The comment from his band members on the Avenged Sevenfold website
"It is with great sadness and heavy hearts that we tell you of the passing today of Jimmy “The Rev” Sullivan. Jimmy was not only one of the world's best drummers, but more importantly he was our best friend and brother. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Jimmy's family and we hope that you will respect their privacy during this difficult time.
Jimmy you are forever in our hearts. We love you. M Shadows, Synyster Gates, Zacky Vengeance and Johnny Christ"
This should be added to the article underneath the Death heading.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahouseago (talk • contribs) 19:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with not including the quote, but not with the copyright reasoning. We include quotes in articles all the time. As long as they aren't extensive, and they bear the quotation marks and attribution, it should be fine. That said though, I don't think the quote really adds anything to the article. Every death of a notable person comes with condolences by people who knew them, and I don't see that this particular one adds any information or clarity to the article. Equazcion (talk) 22:44, 31 Dec 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request 

message: I think the part about a drummer called Steven DuBois should be removed. The only source for it is Steven DuBois' own website, which is very lacking other than what seems to be a copy and pasted article about The Rev's death and a video of Steven drumming. I've researched him and cannot find much to support that he isn't just a regular fan.
DonCotterillio (talk) 16:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Steven DuBois

message: any information on the autopsy yet?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Br00talelectro (talk • contribs) 07:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cause of death

message: Please, somebody remove the false trolling crap that's been posted under his cause of death. Thefowles1 (talk) 04:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: False slander under Cause of Death

message: The statement below is from Sullivan's family and was posted upon the Avenged Sevenfold website: www.avengedsevenfold.com
MESSAGE FROM THE SULLIVAN FAMILY
We would like to thank all of Jimmy’s fans for the heartfelt comments that have been posted – it is comforting to know that his genius and antics were appreciated and that he was loved so much. Our hearts are broken – he was much too young to fall.
February 9, 1981 – December 28, 2009
Óg agus saor go deo (forever young and free)
Barbara & Joe, Kelly & Katie
& the extended Sullivan family
Just thought it might be a nice addition to the site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojpyro (talk • contribs) 13:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit Request#2

message: Please place any references for the article here, so they can be used. All people familiar with the Avenged Sevenfold should know that he is deserving of an article beyond just stating that he was a drummer and he's dead. Please help to bring more information to the page. A discography section would be nice, and not difficult considering that his life was so short. He barely missed being included in the 27 Club (a surprising list of musicians and actors whose lives ended at age 27; the Rev was 28. 
Here's a reference: Avenged Sevenfold, Drummers World --Leahtwosaints (talk) 00:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Um, can't someone just upload a decent picture, and leave it alone?! 90.194.175.7 (talk) 09:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: WElcome Paradise Friend  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.138.215.13 (talk) 03:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  from jones  

message: Still, it's been roughly a week or two and an image of him has not been put back up. It needs to stop being changed/removed. Also, Steven DuBois' statement STILL lingers. It needs to be removed, being that it is in no way helpful to understanding The Rev. His source also links to his OWN website in which the article there was just copied as well with his additives.Surge24 (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image and Clean-ups 

message: About this  edit by User:D33deed33guy. Re: "Wikipedia is not a memorial yet Michael Jackson has a whole memorial page? Re added bands statements. Show some respect at least." The Rev was not exactly Michael Jackson. And Wikipedia isn't about "showing respect", it's supposed to be completely neutral. ×××BrightBlackHeaven(talk)××× 07:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: not a memorial 

message: It is obvious why the section about the Rev's drum equipment was removed, but the article just looks kind of sad and lonely without it. (hint hint) --184.36.203.197 (talk) 14:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: This Article is Failing at its Purpose Right Now...

message: There's a grammar mistake underneath the picture of the drumset - it says "Music Video's" and it should say "music videos" (saxon genitive is not used for making plurals and both words should start with lowercase letters cause it's English not German ;) )
P.leduchowska (talk) 13:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done elektrikSHOOS 13:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from P.leduchowska, 23 September 2010 

message: Where is it stated by the band that The Rev played on the song Save Me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.108.12 (talk) 23:59, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: False Information on Save Me?

message: I think we need to update The Rev's associating acts thing. He played drums on Brian Haner's previous album 'Cougar Bait' and he played drums on one track [Bring my Baby Back] from 'Fist Fight at the Waffle House'.
He recorded it before he had passed away. I don't have permission to add this in on Jimmy's page.
Brian posted the following on his facebook page.
"Brian HanerGetting lots of messages and e-mails so I will clarify once again. The Rev played on ALL songs on my last CD, "Cougar Bait", but only one song on the new CD, "Fistfight at the Wafflehouse."18 hours ago
"Brian Haner I should clarify because I always forget how psychotic Avenged fans are about details. The Rev played drums on only one song on my new CD, "Bring My Baby Back". To the best of my knowledge, it was the last thing he recorded in the studio ON DRUMS. It was recorded shortly before the Nightmare CD."
Eshotgunxsinnere (talk) 21:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical Collaborations? 

message: In the article, it says Jimmy played the piano on "Warmness on the Soul". According to the CD jackets, Synyster played piano on both "Warmness on the Soul", and "Sidewinder". However, The Rev did play the piano for "Seize the Day". So, please substitute "Seize the Day" for "Warmness on the Soul".
KellanS (talk) 20:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from KellanS, 3 January 2011 

message: I think it may be time for a new pic of the Rev up here~ :D (FoREVer Jimmys (talk) 07:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hehe 

message: I would like to edit The Rev's wikipedia page because I would like to add a photo on to the page. I will get a very good photo of him from google that I think everyone would like and respect.
Nialperry918 (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: see Wikipedia:Image use policy. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 21:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Nialperry918, 29 July 2011 

message: Request for someone to change the photo of the Rev. Seriously, why this photo? There are hundreds of better photos of the Rev than this one, he looks like he hasn't showered in days and has just woken up with a hangover on this picture. Post a photo of him actually playing drums instead of a photo of him at a boring interview.. The two previous ones were great.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hammerhigh (talk • contribs) 18:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change photo 

message: Please change the born date to 10 Feburary and not 09.
24.54.13.27 (talk) 02:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 24.54.13.27, 8 September 2011 

message: Just reverted the entire page because someone vandalized it.  Please check to be sure any recent changes were not accidently reverted as well.  Gothangelblood (talk) 15:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: In the section about what songs he wrote, "Fiction" is listed twice.
98.182.16.118 (talk) 18:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done BryanG (talk) 02:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 10 July 2013 

message: I would like to replace the picture of The Rev with a better one, because I feel the current picture does not do him justice.
Jarebare555 (talk) 22:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Vague requests to add, update, modify, or improve an image are generally not honored unless you can point to a specific image already uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons that you would like included on this article. Please note that any image used on any Wikipedia article must comply with the Wikipedia image use policy, particularly where copyright is concerned. --ElHef (Meep?) 23:43, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2014 

message: "James (The Rev) Sullivan in better times (alive)"
I thought about changing this but it was sincerely so funny I'd rather leave like that. 177.125.82.172 (talk) 01:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture subtitle 

message: Propose merging Pinkly Smooth with this page as it currently fails WP:MUSIC. Karst (talk) 15:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: 47.55.199.206 (talk) 14:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: [EDIT] NEVER! what a stupid idea.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.14.16.153 (talk) 12:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge proposal 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: This section should be removed. First off, it's useless. Second, none of it is sourced. Third, I know for a fact the first quote on there was not a quote of his own, rather it was him paraphrasing someone else. I'm deleting this section unless someone has any valid points as to why it should stay. Zdawg1029 (talk) 17:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

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replies: text: The Rev →  – This musician is not the primary topic for the article title The Rev User:力 (powera, π, ν) 00:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

text: @力 And what is? Not saying the argument is wrong but we need to at least understand what the primary topic is proposed to be, or it will just become a redirect? -- ferret (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  The hatnote text is  which is where this should be targeted.  (without a hatnote on that page?  If it needs a hatnote, maybe there's a DAB that can be the target) User:力 (powera, π, ν) 00:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: "The Rev" is by far Sullivan's commonly known name as a professional. How will readers find him by that expected alias following this move? From a hatnote alone? -- ferret (talk) 00:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. 87.254.76.249 (talk) 22:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

text: *You what? It absolutely is! -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 23 April 2022 

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message: James is laid to rest at the Good Shepherd Cemetery in Huntington Beach, California. I know we can't cite findagrave.com so I linked a Youtube video, but that was removed. There seems to be quite a few pictures of his tombstone online, so I was wondering if that can be added. Cahlin29 (talk) 20:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Resting Place