Talk:Zakarpattia Oblast

message: The oblast was formed only after the war but as of now the entire history section is devoted to the interwar period. This rightfully needs merged into Carpathian Ruthenia and the post-war times need to be described instead. Also, when doing so, please avoid duplicating and attempts to reproduce the History of Ukraine in 2-3 sentences of narrow articles about locations. Only what's relevant to the location belongs here rather than general phrases like "Since 1991 the territoryu became part of independent Ukraine..." So was every territory of UkrSSR. Since this is going to be written anew, let's avoid common traps. --Irpen 03:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History at the wrong place

message: Hello ! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 21:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin Europe 

message: I am new to Wikipedia, so that is why I added explicitly "please help me edit the following reference to Wiki-standards"
Now, please, help me edit this into appropriate wiki-material:
Priest Sidor is identical with Father Dymytrij Sydor which a few years ago raised the funds to build a massive new cathedral at Uzhgorod, one of the largest in eastern Europe. The Magazine Hidden Europe (www.hiddeneurope.co.uk) reports: - - (please help me edit the following reference to Wiki-standards) - - "All eyes are now on the assembly of Ukraine's Zakarpattya Oblast which meets in Uzhgorod on 1 December. The assembly is unlikely to back Father Sydor separatist aspirations. For not only does the region have a large number of Ukrainians, but it is also home to other minorities beyond the Rusyns, notably the Hutsuls. But Dymytrij Sydor is not a man to back down easily. If the oblast assembly does not support the Rusyns claim for independence, then Father Sodor says that the Rusyn minority will consider more forceful ways of securing their goals."
Wikarth (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New information deleted, inconsistent with Wiki standards 

message: The only official language is Ukrainian and not any other without any exceptions. The link provided does not support the fact that in some seven villages the official language is Hungarian. That is crazy and needs to be checked as it gives bias information. And if there will be no responses on this subject it will be removed. People come up with all kinds of strange stuff like that the official language of Crimea is Russian. It is de facto language, but it does not make it automatically the official, please, refer to the Constitution of Ukraine for more information. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll clarify: minority citizens/inhabitants in 7 villages of the Muchachivskyi Raion can choose to educate their children in Hungarian. This is from the Zakarpattia Oblast State Administration website. No one is saying that Hungarian is co-official in Zakarpattia. Maybe the "Hungarian language has some official rights" part confused you.. The language just has some rights as a language of a minority in several of those villages. Though don't forget Article 10 of the Constitution: In Ukraine, the free development, use and protection of Russian, and other languages of national minorities of Ukraine, is guaranteed. Feel free to reword it to make it less confusing. —dima/talk/ 03:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: Why isn't :File:Zakarpattia-Oblast-flag.gif used in the infobox, and why is there a message stating Please do not include any flags into this field; the province does not have any officially-recognized flags? Can anyone explain this? ☺  Spiby  ☻ 15:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A flag has been adopted! But is is slightish different the the one in the infobox. You can see a picture of the new flag here. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Oh! Thank you, Mariah-Yulia. This question was interesting for me. I looked throught the news and really this flag was adopted yesterday. Now there is a need to update this article in other languages.Iurii.Fedyshyn (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   You are correct! It is not! If there is only a picture with no specific reason containing different color than the official Flag of Ukraine then it is supposedly just an administrative mistake by the web administrator of the webpage!  JSoos (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the regional parliament was mistaken and adopted or published the wrong flag or coat of arms, then it is not for us to correct it. We only show the official image as it is. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

text:  I do not want to argue. If you think you're right, cancel my edition.  --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, the official flag was correctly represented, in the file you changed. Could you justify, why do you think that the previous editors all are mistakenly wrong both here and both in Commons? Why do you think that Zakarpattia implemented a different color than the State itself? Could you please cite any source which clearly write down that the colors in the flags differ of the state and the oblast? JSoos (talk) 15:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you have any complaints about the coat of arms too? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, that is correct, it is the same color than the flag of Ukraine. This shows also that there is a mistake on the page you cite , because also in the web page header and also the coat of arm picture is correct, but the picture of the flag was not adjusted to true color representation, that is why I say this is supposedly a mistake of the webadministrator. JSoos (talk) 15:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Then why the official image of the coat of arms was removed, and instead of it now the author's version of the Wikipedia editor Alex Tora? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 16:17, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

text: And now the flag has the wrong coat of arms. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 16:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can create a new SVG file with the better COA, however, it is much better to show this than the flag with the wrong color, and COA in the flag is not that important, it is small, and next to it there is COA in big. JSoos (talk) 07:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: Here are some comments of an author about this issue. He says that some scholars confuse "autonomy" and "self goverment status", and this is what happened on December 1991 un Ukraine. I think that it is important to include it in the article, because it show other pont of view.  Here it is the reference: 
Kuzio, Taras "The Rusyn Question in Ukraine: sorting out fact from fiction". Canadian Review of Studies in Nationalism, XXXII, 2005.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.18.132.150 (talk) 02:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Some comment about autonomy of Transcarpathia

message: Hi, I replaced the opening sentence of the second paragraph in this section. The text as it stood declared:
"Although ethnic Rusyns are in the majority (80.5%), other ethnic groups are relatively numerous in Zakarpattia." 
As source, a reference was included to the English-language pages of the Ukrainian census site, with the 2001 census results for the Zakarpattia region. (I updated the link to those pages, as they changed the URL.) In addition, an editing note was added to say: "2001 Ukrainian Census does not recognise Rusyns as a separate nation, instead, as a subgroup of Ukrainians. Rusyns and the Rusyn language are thus included in Ukrainians and Ukrainian language group." 
This was a bit problematic. The census results provided in the source say nothing about what percentage of the population is Rusyn, specifically: they just list 80.5% of the population as being Ukrainian. If the editing note is right that this is because the census did not recognize Rusyns as a separate nationality, and they were subsumed among Ukrainians, that makes sense - but that doesn't make it OK to bluntly declare all of those 80.5% Ukrainians to be Rusyns. That's certainly not substantiated by the source given. Going only on the source, we have no idea how many of those 80.5% people declared Ukrainians are Rusyns, or really just Ukrainians. So I replaced the sentence with a more neutral wording, i.e.:
"Although Ukrainians, including ethnic Rusyns, are in the majority (80.5%), other ethnic groups are relatively numerous in Zakarpattia."  No-itsme (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, if you delve into the Ukrainian-language 2001 census database, it does have a table with data for the "Distribution in the Transcarpathian region of those identifying themselves as Rusyns and indicating the Rusyn language as a native language," so the editing note isn't actually right. And it lists those people as making up just 0.54% of the total population of Zakarpattia. I suppose that this still leaves the question of how many people might identify themselves as Rusyns but do not speak Rusyn as their native language, but it's not up to Wikipedia to speculate. No-itsme (talk) 02:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics section: Rusyns and/or Ukrainians?

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians!
So I was just submitting a minor edit on the Hungarian Wikipedia regarding the Ukrainian and English version of the name of the region, and something caught my attention. I was looking for an English source on this page to support my edit for the English name version and I found none. "Google is youl fliend", said Pontius Pilate to the plebs back in the day, so I did a Google search and it did not retrieve any official source for the name version. (I even ventured to the abandoned wastelands of the Second and the Third pages of the Google search and still nothing.)
So I was wondering, what is the official English name for this region? "Transcarpatia" seems like a rough translation of the Ukrainian version, literally, "Over the Carpathian mountains", while the Hungarian version says "The [bottom] of the Carpathians", which could be best translated to "Subcarpathia". Perhaps the best version would be a Transcarpathia/Subcarpathia OR "Transcarpathia or else, Subcarpathia" kind of name? That would be most precise and encyclopedic in my opinion.
What do the Slovekian and Romanian colleges say? I believe in Romanian, the "Transcarpathia" version is used, but how about Slovekian? How do the Slovekian citizens of the region call it?
So  I'm going to submit a small edit to the "Name" section of the page, describing this background with the various versions, but I'm not editing the first section until we could come up with a more detailed version that all Wikipedians can agree on. --StarOfFlames (talk) 10:56, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Why are we spelling Zakarpattia with a double T when the Cyrillic spelling does not? Constant Pedant (talk) 05:44, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: Every nation has their own history of territory based on current political attitudes. One example: about this kind of terror after Hungarian occupation, we can read only in Ukrainian sources. I can not found any clue in Hungarian or other European or USSR sources about 27000 people were shot dead. Moreover, it is unidentifiable what is the source of the linked article so use of this source is not met with scientific expectation.
I guess occupation was not bloodiness but this count of terror should be documented by other nations and should be visible in death rate as well. 
I advise clarification of this statement. 2A01:36D:118:8FB7:1D8E:1B74:6B4:8CDC (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some statement should be checked about history ofbterritory 

message: Would it be out of place to add more information on the historical Jewish community of Zakarpattya as it seems unfair such a large part of Transcarpathian history is reduced to two sentences mentioning the Holocaust. IF anyone has any suggestions for possible sources to add more lmk , otherwise I will do some research :) thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Troll empire chief (talk • contribs) 20:28, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info on Jewish community? 

message: Ukranian and Russian nationalists, forcefully annexed the Hungarian plain to the zakarpatti oblast, despite the linguistic, geographic & historic contrast between the Hungarian populated Hungarian plain and the East Slavic populated Carpathian highlands.  Forcefully calling the Hungarian plain the Carpathian will not change the fact that the open Hungarian plain will never ever become Carpathian, you will find out soon. Zagabor (talk) 17:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungarian plain 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cherkasy Oblast which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 17:02, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Hello all,
Should the first line and infobox of this article be changed to line up with the title (in line with the other oblasts of Ukraine), that is, replacing "Zakarpatska" with "Zakarpattia" in the English version? Bayonet-lightbulb (talk) 04:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of article vs first sentence