Talk:Music of Minnesota

message: A Panera Bread IP made several changes;   since that is a shared, public IP, leaving a talk message to the editor explaining WP:3RR,  the FAR process and correct inline citation is unlikely to yield any discussion.  I've moved the text here so it can be examined vs. the sources, and correct inline citations added.  
The Communique record label, Sound in Motion promotions, and Onethirty Recordings label webpages verify none of the text.  Beat Radio is a wiki; wikis are not reliable sources.  So, sources would need to be found for the new section; none of it is cited.  
From this diff, the IP correctly removed "recently" (WP:MOSDATE#Precise language) and replaced it with a date ("In January 2005, MPR launched KCMP 89.3 ...); 2005 is verified by the source, so I re-added it.
I've also fixed WP:ACCESS in the Hip Hop section three times, and I've fixed it again, for proper order of items within sections.)  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 07:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *This is all great. But I'm sorry we cannot accept unsourced contributions. We need your help. Can you please attribute every word of this to a WP:RS reliable source? -SusanLesch (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

text: *: Susan, are you able to address the number of radio stations?  Why such a big difference between the numbers currently in the text and the numbers given by the IP (which seem to be correct)?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Wish I could but no. Reached my limit on Google Books previews. I will reword the sentence which is definitely wrong. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I added "as of" dates to the Radio section (but the rest of the article might need review for similar),  removed text that seemed redundant, changed or removed some of the text to conform to sources,   and added an inline query about establishing relevance for one paragraph.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Sandy. You're working too hard on this! Your edits look great to me. The inline question has been answered I hope. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP edits 

message: Minnesota has an active electronic music scene, though the genre tends to get little radio airplay in the state. What airplay exists generally is played on local pirate radio outlets, which operate sporadically and with low power to limited areas. The most famous of these was Beat Radio 97.7, started in July 1996 by area programmer and DJ Alan Freed (no relation to the earlier DJ by this name). After his transmitter was shut down by the Federal Communications Commission in November 1996, Freed brought the music to several local stations (KFAI, KVSC, WWTC), including nationally during most of 1998 with nightly all-night broadcasts on the former Radio Aahs network which reached 10 cities around the country. He subsequently programmed dance stations at XM Satellite Radio.
		 
During the mid-90s, Minnesota, particularly the Twin Cities, drew attention for its underground electronic music scene. As raves and techno were making big waves in mainstream Europe, they were making similar waves as illegal underground warehouse parties throughout the U.S. ESP Woody McBride's record label "Communique" and its subsidiaries released a number of underground dance tracks during this period. Earlier, in the late 1980s and early 90s, Information Society had major hits on both the dance and pop charts. Current activity includes, but is not limited to, the onethirty recordings label and SIM (Sound In Motion) promotions, which presents top international electronic/dance performers in Minneapolis-St. Paul.
*Communique record label
*Beat Radio
*Sound In Motion promotions
*Onethirty Recordings label
I'm not sure what's going on with the radio stations; those sources should be checked.  The new text appears more reasonable for a state the size of Minnesota, and the numbers appear to be verified by sources listed. (Of the 557 radio stations in the state, 11 are owned by conglomerate Clear Channel Communications, which employs four lobbyists in Minnesota.)  
*Minnesota AM radio stations from FCC
*Minnesota FM radio stations from FCC
*Clear Channel Broadcasting radio stations in Minnesota
:*This is all great. But I'm sorry we cannot accept unsourced contributions. We need your help. Can you please attribute every word of this to a WP:RS reliable source? -SusanLesch (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *: Susan, are you able to address the number of radio stations?  Why such a big difference between the numbers currently in the text and the numbers given by the IP (which seem to be correct)?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Wish I could but no. Reached my limit on Google Books previews. I will reword the sentence which is definitely wrong. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Electronic/Dance/Techno

message: I have removed this unsourced text again, and will leave a note for the IP.  I also see that "as of" dates are missing on some data, including the Radio section, and the Hip Hop section continues to breach WP:ACCESS#Section structure, although I've corrected it four times.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:49, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added "as of" dates to the Radio section (but the rest of the article might need review for similar),  removed text that seemed redundant, changed or removed some of the text to conform to sources,   and added an inline query about establishing relevance for one paragraph.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Sandy. You're working too hard on this! Your edits look great to me. The inline question has been answered I hope. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Again 

message: A new IP has reverted the radio section three or more times. I appreciate that Sandy sent this person a "Welcome" notice and notice of this talk page. However I don't appreciate having a FARC open indefinitely, completely open ended. Therefore, I must assume that whoever voted to delist this article has dropped off the face of the Earth, or doesn't care how long it takes. I asked you to please close this FARC. And I will ask you again until it is closed. -SusanLesch (talk) 04:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Again

message: I think the history of First Avenue is excessively detailed for a general article such as this, and I propose to cut it down to a single sentence.  Also, Orchestra Hall should be mentioned in this section also.  Kablammo (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Not sure if the textual list of former venues is needed; will leave that for others.  Kablammo (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venues 

message: Hello. From the FAR review, Elcobbola asked for an overview. Well today I went to the Hennepin County Public Library (Central) and asked for one. Five people behind the desk. I left with one book on arts in Minnesota with a chapter on music, and a few xerox copies from an encyclopedia, and without any hope of ever finding an overview in a book that circulates. I don't think I can bother those people again. - SusanLesch (talk) 21:35, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  From FAR 

message: I want to create a reference or External Link to A Collection of Songs and Music by Minnesota Composers: An Inventory of Sheet Music as I think its very appropriate to the article, but not sure how to include it.  Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archivist100 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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