Talk:Pearl Lowe

message: Hi all,
I'm trying to introduce appropriate links to the orphaned article All that glitters is not gold (about the familiar quotation from Shakespeare), and I'm guessing the title of Lowe's memoir (as mentioned in the article) is taken from there; but I'm not sufficiently familiar with it be sure, or where to introduce it if so. If any of the regular editors of this article could take a look, I'd much appreciate it. --Xover (talk) 12:59, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't that article be at All that glisters is not gold, that being the correct quotation? It's a commonly used phrase, and all uses ultimately derive from Shakespeare. "All that Glitters" was also a single by Gary Glitter from 1981, though I doubt Lowe would have been making a reference to the shamed rock star.--Michig (talk) 13:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the article name is very likely wrong, strictly speaking; but I wasn't quite ready to delve into that issue right now. The guidelines for article naming say something along the lines of using the most commonly known form of a subjects name as the article name, so it's probably within the bounds of policy. Anyways, I was just taking a spin through the cleanup listing for WikiProject Shakespeare—a listing of all the articles within that project's scope which have one or more cleanup templates—and tried to address a lack of inbound links to that article (hence the request above). Anyways, thanks for your comments. --Xover (talk) 13:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name from the Shakespeare quote? 

message: Pearl Lowe in Wikipedia? I have a dead cat buried in my garden which achieved more in its brief life. Wiki seems to be becoming a vanity project for pointless people.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.22.240 (talk) 08:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's The Punchline? 

message: Considering Lowe is, at best, a minor celebrity, I've removed some of the poorly sourced personal info. Cross referencing Twitter tweets with company director searches and birth registration indexes to create a 'fact' is WP:OR and not suitable, ever. Lowe's public profile on IMDb says her birth year is 1970, so I'm not even sure we should be changing it to 1968, but hey ho! Sionk (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have further pared down the date of birth details, per WP:DOB, to just the year. And I am undecided about whether even that can be defended since the currently cited source and her IMDB profile disagree (1968 vs 1970). The specific date previously given seems a perfect case of why original research is not permitted: it cited a tweet from her mother on date X wishing her happy birthday, while other sources suggest it's really on date X+1 (i.e. her mother had just tweeted a bit early). In any case, just some drive-by janitorial work here, so regular editors on the article may want to chime in.Addendum: The names of her children should probably not be in the article unless for some reason their names have been widely reported. If Lowe's notability is borderline, her children are definitely not (notability is not inherited). --Xover (talk) 19:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: On further reflection I've gone ahead and removed the names of those of her children who are not individually notable. WP:BLP and related policies, including the documentation for the  parameter in the  template, give pretty clear guidance on this. --Xover (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

text: I found a couple of (cited two, but there were several more) news articles that give her age, which combined with the articles' publication date give a reasonable calculation of her year of birth as 1970. This is borderline original research or synthesis, but given that's what IMDB says and the unsuitability of the other source (that says 1968), I think this is at least less wrong. Strictly speaking the age-at-date method gives us a range of 1969–70 (or even 1969-71, worst case), but it seems reasonable to assume 1970 given the data available. If this is still challenged I guess we'll just have to give the year (and age) more approximately. Incidentally, does nobody here have her autobiography (referenced in the article)? Surely it gives her date of birth or at least the correct year of birth, and would be an excellent cite for a lot of the basic facts in this article. --Xover (talk) 17:05, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal details