Talk:Alice Springs

message: In the section "Preschool, primary and secondary" it states: Over 3,843 primary and secondary students are enrolled in schools in Darwin.
Shouldn't that read "in Alice Springs" - not "in Darwin"?
I noticed that the link to <<Hermannsburg>> takes you to the page for Hermannsburg, Germany.
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: Fixed - thanks for noticing --AYArktos 3 July 2005 10:01 (UTC)
There is incorrect information in the climate section as Alice Springs is in the southern hemisphere so the hot months are Dec/Jan rather than Jun/July as it reports.  The maximum temperature at Alice will have occured in the months Dec/Jan not Jun/July!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.123.99 (talk) 23:20, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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message: Isn't the convention for Australian places to have the location at its name unless it needs to be disambiguated? I think this page should be al Alice Springs, not Alice Springs, Northern Territory.--nixie 22:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the convention is for automatic disambiguation except for capital cities - see Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28city_names%29#Australia.  Regards--A  Y  Arktos 02:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: I have added an Australian city infobox for Alice Springs to replace the CIA style map and bring in line with other Australian cities - any info regarding Mayor / Population / area etc would be much appreciated.
I also need to update the location map as the page currently links to the Brisbane map; can someone point me in the direction of the SVG source file for undertaking this task.  Cheers! BrisbanePom 13:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: What are the particular Aboriginal cultures and language groups who live in Alice Springs?  The article isn't specific about this.  I suppose Warlpiri is one.  Badagnani 00:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aboriginal cultures 

message: In the last few weeks the article has been edited and expanded a lot by NT Tourism, which is good, but now the article needs sorting out and re-editing to get rid of lists, and other things. Also there is a lot of picture's! We need to get rid of some picture's as wikipedia isn't flickr, and too many picture's in an article are not good. ImperialAssassin ~ 20:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct; I've trimmed a few, but more could be cut. And too many apostrophes in words are not good, either. - DavidWBrooks 19:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm a fan of pictures, but I agree - there are quite a few. They were left-justified and getting all over the text, and even right-justifying them leaves them sloppily spilling over their topics. I'm in favor of disposing of the departing runway. I'd say the Araluen photo too but it is a major thing in town. The trouble is the other photos are all fairly accurate with regards to what they portray and it's importance to the town... Any ideas? Can we stick them all in a grid or something?wench (talk) 13:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a "gallery" function, which clumps photos into one spot. Hunt around and you'll find it on some articles and you can see how the coding works. I dislike excess photos, too, but personally I think the current article works OK. It's right on the edge of having too many pictures, though. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Article & Pictures

message: Personally, I am offended by the exclusion of non-metric measurments to accompany the data and statistics listed only in metric units. I regularly view lambasting of various things "American" (referring to the USA) that contain an America-centric slant with exclusion of non-American viewpoints. What is "good for the goose is good for the gander," right?68.13.191.153 14:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Normal Wikipedia style (per WP:UNITS)is to give measurements using both systems.  Because metric is used in Australia, a distance in kilometers should be first in this article, but the mileage should follow in parentheses. JamesMLane t c 23:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Measurements

message: How do Australians spell this word? We have in History->Early city: "Almost in the exact center of the continent..." but I would think that it would be spelled/spelt "centre". 4.242.147.252 02:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct, Australians spell it 'centre'. --Zamphuor 04:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Center vs. Centre? 

message: I find the posting of material relating to the killing & eating of felines under 'Recreation' very bizarre. I also question its notability as it really has little to nothing at all to do with Alice Springs culture or lifestyle. Djbass (talk) 03:27, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recreation & Cats 

message: The Alice Springs Public Library is undoubtedly in Alice Springs, but this article mentions the Nevil Shute Memorial Library.  Some Australian who knows about it should make the additions or corrections here. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Libraries in Alice Springs 

message: Im debating on the part where it says "most are welcome" shouldnt that say "Most are welcome if they conform to modernised fashion??" I wear a flatcap and because Im younger then the bulk who wear the exact style(elderly guys) and I find the bulk of Alice Springs is VERY hostile towards those who choose to look different and tend to alienate themselves from those who dont look Australian(I am Australian but English loving)by their standards and sterotyping.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.216.55 (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A debate on the Socal aspect 

message: Has "Alice" in "Alice Springs" anything to do with "Alice in Wonderland"? Australia is often called "Down under". Alice went "down". "Wonder" in swedish is "under", so "Alice i Underlandet" can have a double interpretation in swedish. 
The origin of "Alice" in "Alice Springs" should be mensioned, whatever it is! / 109.58.51.134 (talk) 02:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says this, although perhaps it should be more prominent: The settlement was optimistically named Alice Springs after the wife of the former Postmaster General of South Australia, Sir Charles Todd. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice 

message: Михаил Марчук, you can not go around adding material to a referenced section that is not supported by the reference. And you can not do original research to synthesise you own data. If the material you are adding does not com from the BOM, it can not be added o the section you are adding it to. That section is referenced to the BOM, and you can not just go slipping in other data from less reliable sources as though supported by the BOM. You can not under any circumstances synthesise you own data. You might have to read and try to understand WP:OR and especially WP:SYNTH. Quite simply "do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source... if a single source says "A" in one context, and "B" in another, without connecting them, and does not provide an argument of "therefore C", then "therefore C" cannot be used in any article." And that is exactly what you are trying to do. The BOM data gives a min and max for each  month. If it does not use those data to calculate a mean then you can not do either. I have no idea how mean temperatures are calculated by actual Australian meteorologists so I have no idea if your figures are correct, or if means are calculated off hourly figures or daily figures rather than monthly maxima and minima. You are an anonymous editor, you are not an authority and you can not add material that is not attributable to a reliable source. Wikipedia relies on verifiability and there is no way to verify thet your figures are correct. They are simply a synthesis and I have no confidence that they are correct.Mark Marathon (talk) 05:42, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mean temperatures. 

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message: In the opening section appears the sentence:
"Alice Springs has faced many issues in recent years, largely stemming from an increase in crime and a strong racial divide that has existed for years in the town." with the reference being a news report from 2011 - is this still relevant? I'm currently in Alice Springs visiting from Melbourne and in the last two days I have been here around town haven't witnessed anything of the 'crime wave' or it's effects alluded to in the referenced article. 'Faced many issues in recent years' definitely reads as if the problem is ongoing - also is it 'many' or just one (the crime wave)?
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thread_title: Is the 'crime wave' from 2011 still a current issue?

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message: Before this article makes a flat statement that Alice is the "murder capital" of Australia - whatever that means - note that other places are also so described, including Victoria(http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/crime-tsunami-victoria-records-more-homicides-than-nsw-and-qld-20160929-grr16h.html), all of NT (http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/the-northern-territory-has-the-highest-homicide-rate-in-australia/news-story/49b81f284c9500ea027a338e01271325) and even Adelaide (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-15/why-cant-adelaide-bury-murderous-capital-reputation/9249142). If we want to make a point about murder, then we should cite actual statistics, not vague phrases taken from tabloid papers. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:27, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, . Whole section is problematical (hence my next section below). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "murder capital" 

message: There is reference to the "city's" population. The article also refers to Alice Springs as a town. What are we going for?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.36.243.120 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a link to the Alice Springs Town Council (local government) website in the External links section at the bottom of the page. That site clearly tells us it's a town, so not formally a city. I've made the necessary change in the text. Thanks for noticing the problem. HiLo48 (talk) 03:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Town or City