Talk:Place names in Ireland

message: A few quick questions:
Africa is usually, per de Bhaldraithe, etc, translated as "an Afraic." But older books use "an Aifric", and that's much more like how I would pronounce the continents name. Any opinions, esp academics, native speakers, or owners of superold books.
Oileán Mhanann-Mhanainn. A cursory search shows about equal use, a bit towards Mhanainn, but some of that is Scottish Gaelic. On its own, I think "Manann", agus the language is "Gaeilge Mhanainn" or "Manannais". Any (similar) takers on this?
Meabhar 17:14, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: RE: Oileán Mhanann - On its own, Manainn (old feminine -u ending word c.f. nom. Éiriú, gen. Éireann, dat. Éirinn; nom. Albu, gen. Alban, dat. Albain; for Isle of Man it was nom. Manu, gen. Manann, dat. Manainn). The Irish words for Scotland and Mann have since lost their old nominative form, instead using the dative in its place. The old Irish nominative for Ireland has been modified to its current version, Éire. The correct translation for Isle of Man therefore is Manainn as a standalone version or Mhanann when used in conjunction with a qualifying noun, e.g. Oileán Mhanann ("Isle of Man"), Tiarna Mhanann ("Lord of Mann") etc. Regarding the language, it is translated as Manainnis or Gaeilge Mhanann. The latter is the version approved by Foras na Gaeilge at their terminology page but Manainnis can be found on most modern dictionaries too. --MacTire02 (talk) 12:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2004 post

message: Hi; I would question the accuracy of many of these place names. Anyone else have any qualms?Fergananim 01:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A good place for official translations of Irish placenames is . Djegan 19:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree. I can't confirm most of the Irish names for Canadian provinces/territories listed here, except Talamh an Éisc for Newfoundland and Alba(in) Nua for Nova Scotia. Éire Nua for New Brunswick seems especially suspicious; this Wikipedia page is the only thing I can find on Google where the two terms are equated. I'm removing everything except Talamh an Éisc and Albain Nua and taking off the  template. Angr/talk 15:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd say articles on Canadian provinces at ga: should be written under their English (or in the case of Nunavut, Inuktitut) names until authoritative sources for a distinct Irish name can be found. Obviously Newfoundland should be at :ga:Talamh an Éisc, and Nova Scotia should be at :ga:Alba Nua or :ga:Albain Nua (with a redirect from the other one), but I'd say the other names shouldn't be translated unless we can find a reliable source to show those names are actually used as Gaeilge. Angr/talk 16:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations

message: It should also be worth pointing out that Dubh Linn and Baile Átha Cliath are not exactly the same thing. Dubh Linn was the name given to a settlement on the banks of the river Liffey in the vicinity of the first Viking settlement surrounding Wood Quay (location of the Dublin Corporation offices), but Baile Átha Cliath was the name given to an area in the vicinity of Heuston Station, approximately 1 kilometre from Dubh Linn. I'm not entirely sure why Baile Átha Cliath took precedence over Dubh Linn in Irish but I guess (and it is only my opinion, though I'm sure proper research has been conducted) as Dubh Linn was the centre of foreign control in Ireland, it was a less preferred option in Irish. --MacTire02 (talk) 12:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of Dublin 

message: The Meath CC uses the word "Graig" to refer to small communities such as crossroad villages. See Meath CC Development Plan section "Development in Graigs". In Kilkenny there is a Graiguenamanagh which translates to "Village of the monks" and also the page Monastic Grange which defines "Grange" as the village or townland (without references). However, this website defines Graiguemanagh as meaning "the grange or church of the monks". There seems to be a lot of overlap. Is there one definition or is the word used to mean different things in different areas? Can it be added to the Etymology section? The reason I am asking is because Kilcloon is the name of the parish and townland. I want to add the definition of Kilcloon as a "Graig" (village) according to Meath CC but require some clarification first (and hopefully a reference). Kmcnamee (talk) 19:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology: Graig - church or townland? 

message: I propose we move this page to Irish placenames (currently a redirect) or Placenames in Ireland. The current title – Place names in Irish – implies that the article is just a list of places with their Irish translations. It is (and should be) more than that. I'm hoping it will grow to become more like the Welsh placenames article.Thoughts? ~Asarlaí 17:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have moved the page to Place names in Ireland. When this article was begun it was merely a list of places with their Irish translations. Now it's no longer just a list and is a more general topic about placenames on the island of Ireland. ~Asarlaí 20:16, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Works for me. —Tamfang (talk) 06:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

text: I suggest we move it to Irish Toponymy. - HumanWithoutName (talk) 06:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  On second thought the current page name is easier to understand, perhaps other toponymy pages should change to Place names in xxxx. HumanWithoutName (talk) 06:12, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: What are some examples of place names of English origin in Ireland? The only ones I can think of are no longer used, having had their Irish names restored in the 1920s, like Kingstown, Queenstown, Philipstown, Maryborough, King's County, and Queen's County. The only other thing I can think of offhand is the first two syllables of Londonderry. +Angr 15:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty — most of which have town, ford, bridge, mill, abbey or castle in their names. Have a look through list of towns and villages in the Republic of Ireland or on Google Maps. ~Asarlaí 15:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, "abbey" and "castle" are of French origin, and "ford" is sometimes a folk etymology, as in Longford. I did find Westport, but "port" is also of French origin. Bridgend and Churchtown are good examples. +Angr 15:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Abbey and castle are also English words so that splitting hairs on the issue. Waringstown, Castledawson, Whiteabbey, Monkstown, Newtonstewart, Newtonhamilton - are some examples of English language origin names (even if some do include surnames of possible Scottish origin). Mabuska (talk) 22:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of English origin 

message: The Irish name should be first, then anglicised spelling, english translation, then example, for the table. 81.129.84.72 (talk) 01:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish name first 

message: The translation given is a "woodland". This is only partially accurate. A more appropriate translation would be a wooded promontory, and can mean a small wooded peninsula which protrudes into the water (Rush, Kilrush, Rosses Point, etc.) or simply a wooded hill which protrudes into the surrounding landscape (Roscrea, Ross Cross in Co. Meath, New Ross, etc.). ‣Mac Tíre Cowag 12:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . ~Asarlaí 14:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ros, rush, etc.