Talk:History of operating systems

message: Surely the article should have mention of the following:
!!What where the programs that people were running using the data and programs they brought to run on mainframe computers? And who were they?
#bootstrap loader
#absolute addressing code
#relative addressing code
#relocatable code
#overlay systems
#paging
#virtual memory
#re-entrant code
#levels of protection (e.g Multics onion ring model)
#multiprocessor systems
#distributed systems
#real time operation (most modern OS's are NOT real time systems)
#user interfaces
#file system
#utilities etc. (e.g Unix providing a bundle of cooperating utilities)
#device independent I/O (factoring out the device independent code from the device dependent code)
#file redirection (related to above)
#scripting
I'm not going to write, or rewrite the article- at this time at least- but these are surely relevant topics.
--David Martland 10:24, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: GNU and the free software movement are two more things for that list. Gronky 00:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing items 

message: Article unprotected. --Κσυπ Cyp 09:50, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: What's up with the "The case of Home computers" etc. section?
Somebody has been editing it by merely deleting and inserting jibberish...why?
If something's wrong with it, please discuss it here! --EpiVictor 16:24, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Home computers" vandalism 

message: From the section on 8-bit computers:
:"the bare minimum for a GUI is around 512 kilobytes, as the case of the Commodore Amiga shows"
I know I'm probably wrong, but didn't the very first Amigas ship with 256k of memory?
--Lovely_Chris
The first Mac had only 128MB.  They could run MacPaint, and little else (or so I read at the time.)
-- Zoltar
:It ran MacWrite too, but it was tight. Many people, including myself, waited for the 512K "FatMac" which was much more usable. One should probably note that both have 128K of ROM twith a lot of the GUI built in. Maybe the sentence should read "bare minimum for a usable GUI." --agr 18:23, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GUI memory requirements 

message: After reading this article, this Talk page, Operating system and History of IBM mainframe operating systems (which I'm working on) I think it would be useful to:
*Define the scope and ojectives of the "top-level" articles about operating systems, since there appears to be some duplication and inconsistency. This would affect mainly Operating system and History of operating systems. I suggest Operating system should stick to the features and issues of modern operating systems (quite a large subject as it needs to cover Windows, Unix and offshoots, the Mac OSs and a few mainframe OSs. And it needs to point out that there also special-purpose OSs, e.g.: for embedded systems; for unusual applications such as airline reservations). Then History of operating systems can be a chronological summary of the major mile-stones in the history of OSs at a fairly high level, relying on e.g. History of IBM mainframe operating systems, articles about other hardware-specific OSs, Unix and Windows to provide more detailed accounts.
*Rewrite History of operating systems with separate main sections for mainframes, minicomputers, personal computers and special-purpose / embedded systems (which is a diverse group, e.g. PDAs, mobile phones, industrial process controllers, aircraft, smart weapons); each main section in a mainly chronological style. Correct errors as we notice them (e.g. History of operating systems mentions OS/360 but gives a slightly inaccurate picture of how that lineage developed, and does not mention DOS/360, whose successor z/VSE is still widely used).  
Looking at the post just before this one, I think a short summary of when the main features of modern operating systems were first proposed and first implemented would also be useful. I used a similar approach in Evolution of mammals, which is mainly chronological but finishes with a section "Evolution of specific mammalian features", and it seems to have worked reasonably well. Philcha (talk) 18:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Restructure needed?

message: Suggest adding a section in for MULTICS, which played a vital early role in OS history. mickrussom (talk) 22:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pardon me to say WP:SOFIXIT :) --Kubanczyk (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the article now mentions Multics.  Guy Harris (talk) 09:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not mentioning MULTICS in this Article is not a good thing

message: There was no monotonic change from stripped down operating systems to bundling suites of applications. IBM's OS/360 included a suite of compilers for multiple languages, but in the wake of the ADR law suite IBM announced successor systems that didn't include any compiler other than the assembler and didn't even include a sort/merge utility. Insted, IBM offered chargable program products that the customer could order.
Eventually IBM changed direction again, but that was much later. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 22:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bundling and unbundling 

message: The quote, is that just one persons opinion? Not sure it and the sentence should be here. (And "Bill Gate's company" should say "Bill Gates' company". Not sure you should correct grammar in quotes..) comp.arch (talk) 15:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apple's OS dominant (in 1989)? 

message: IBM included TSS/360 in the S/360 catalog of programs and included its manuals IBM System/360 and System/370
Bibliography. IBM announced multiple releases of TSS/360 and even offered a TSS/370 PRPQ; given that, the claim but never officially released, TSS/360 seems strange. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 21:18, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  TSS/360 never officially released? 

message: The article refers to MCP as being the first to be implemented in a HLL. A citation is needed to establish that it preceded the use of JOVIAL and NELIAC for that purpose. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Provenance of[[Executive Systems Problem Oriented Language| ESPOL]] versus [[JOVIAL]] and [[NELIAC]] 

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