Talk:Tourism in Russia

message: * Crimea was a part of Russia for a very long time - until 1954, when Kruschev transferred it to the Ukrainian SSR. Abanamat 13:01, 27 April (UTC)
* should the crimea really be mentioned here since it isnt in Russia?  (- unknown/unsigned)
* Cleaned up the article a little bit.  Did not check for accuracy.  This still looks like a stub to me.  71.132.15.129 23:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: I'll be pleased to add my two cents to the article on tourism in Russia when I return from there in about August of 2007.  I am planning a summer visit to my in-laws to work on the dacha, fish, swim and perhaps make baby Russians.  (There is no such thing as 'half-Russian', just as there is no such thing as 'half-American).  We are planning an automobile trip from Moscow to the Rostov Oblast'.  The bus ride usually takes 18-20 hours, the train takes just as long, when accounting for ground transportation from the Rostov train station to the final destination, and the air flight is a bit more comfortable, but it is hard to convince ordinary Russians to spend good money on the luxury of airplane tickets just to get somewhere a bit faster.  We'll see how the car trip goes.
     Part of the trouble in describing tourism in Russia is the huge 'standard deviation' in conditions and the huge variety in people and expectations.  I have been exposed to the most virulent hatred of Russia from ex-patriate Russians, especially young ones who have never actually lived in Russia; from ethnic and religous minorities whose dogma dictate hatred; and from extremist right-wing Americans whose ideology prevents any sort of useful evaluation of the subject at hand.
     On the other hand, very few people are prepared to endorse a Russia with so many obvious flaws, or to pour out blind love and affection for a system that wants neither.  This leaves the innocent bystander with an unbalance of evidence - blind hatred but no blind love.
     If you are the innocent bystander, you already suspect that the truth is in the middle.  For example, in all my extensive visits to Russia, including Moscow and other cities, towns and small villages, I have never been hassled by the Militia (the police).  However, I have been present when others (Russian citizens) have had to pay "fines" or submit to searches, questioning, etc.  I also know that the milia are not paid a living salary and are tacitly or explicitly expected to make up the difference by bribery and extortion.  It will eventually occur to the Russian people that the first step to killing corruption is to take steps to stop encouraging it.
     I don't care what shade of political or social view you represent, you would have a hard time disputing the fact that Russia has the most pathetic collection of public restrooms you are likely to encounter anywhere.  The mop-water used to slop down the floors could probably qualify as a weapon of mass destruction. The quality of restaurants varies with the honesty and dilligence of the staff.  The beer is good, especially if you pay attention to the percentage of alcohol in whatever you're buying.  It is impossible to obey all rules, regulations and laws, even if you want to.  Many of them are mutually exclusive.  In Moscow, for example, it takes five days minimum to register your temporary residency if you are not in a hotel.  The law requires you to register in three days.  By standing in line and not paying a hotel to give you a bogus registration, you are two days late and will pay a fine (1,000 rubles the last time I paid).  Not only that, but a record is made of your violation and that may come up in future discussions with the lawfully constituted authority.  If you get caught with a false registration, you may be in even more difficulty.
     The Russian people are open, frank (even if not always strictly honest with outsiders), loving of family and full of pride (very little of it of the false sort).  Whether it is the War Museum in Volgograd (Stalingrad) or the village pumping station, Russians want tourists to see what is there.
     I'll let you know, God willing and the creek don't rise.
ls 18:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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message: Quite a bit of this article's tone feels like a tourism advertisement, and it's woefully liking in citations. 148.64.8.60 (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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