Talk:List of members of the United States Congress by longevity of service

message: OK, I took a shot at fixing #2 below but it occurs to me that it is completely unimportant to this list that a reader knows whether or not the person is deceased, other than those who may have died in office.
So, I'm deleting that part.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:7743:5460:A9C1:BFAC:ADDE:75A7 (talk) 00:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Shot at fixing

message: The largest minority group not represented herein, and not possible to be included otherwise until 2013, I'd like to include a small section that shows and tracks their longevity. Any objections? 75.203.254.91 (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Women in Congress

message: Are the "time served" amounts automatically calculated, or do they need to be manually updated every day? Just curious how something like this works... Thanks. Error9900 (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For the curious (as this answer is long overdue): for those out of office, it is calculated and entered as text; for those currently in office, it is an auto-calculated from-date template which calculates based off UTC. Change of positions is done manually as needed ~25-30 times per year. Dru of Id (talk) 04:30, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about time served values 

message: I feel like Joe Biden should get an asterisk, she is still President of the Senate after all.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.137.147.133 (talk) 00:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joe Biden 

message: Why are some of the values listed as "n/a"? I don't understand this chart. —Designate (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That indicates that they served 36+ years, but not 36+ years consecutively. Star Garnet (talk) 04:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the uninterrupted time should be included even if it's less than 36 years just so the chart makes sense. I understand you need a threshold for people to save space, but you're not saving any space leaving out one cell in a row. —Designate (talk) 13:14, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uninterrupted time - n/a 

message: Henry Allen Cooper died on March 1, 1931, two days prior to the date on which he would have achieved 36 years of service in the House (and he never served in the Senate).  Thus, he should not be included in a list of members that served at least 36 years in Congress.  While I am aware that the Congressional Research Service, in its 2006 report, computed the length of congressional service by dividing days served by 365, which, due to leap days on leap years, gave Cooper "36 yrs., 3 days" of service, that does not mean that he actually served 36 years in the House.  I think that he should be removed from the list, but will await comments to see how others feel about it.  AuH2ORepublican (talk) 17:49, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out. I forgot about how ridiculous their measurement of time was. Star Garnet (talk) 18:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henry Allen Cooper 

message: Hi guys, was looking through this, and thinking a few changes might be good...
* Include the state(s) in the combined list.  Would require shortening other fields (perhaps limit party width, so Nathaniel Macon's D-R would be on two lines... and\or shorten uninterrupted to perhaps continual\consecutive\straight\)
* Remove n\a (it sorts badly)... either make it a blank, or include the actual values despite not making the ranked part of the list.  Could just put >100 as the rank, if it sorts well.
* Limit the lists to some more round size number.  Perhaps 100 for the combined, and 50 for each body (or if it's too difficult to get to 50 for the senate, shrink the House to match)?
Thoughts?
JeopardyTempest (talk) 21:46, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Suggestions 

message: Hello,
I think we should add party affiliation to the table under House Time, just like the Senate one. The party affiliation should be put between "Name" and "State", to make it equal to the Senate table.
Lexikhan310 (talk) 21:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, that's a great idea.  I don't know why party affiliation wasn't added to the House when it was added to the Senate.  AuH2ORepublican (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: House time party affiliation

message: Not just Biden, but any senator who goes from senator to president of the senate. I don't get why Biden's time as president of the senate doesn't count as Senate time. He was literally in the Senate multiple times during his VP tenure. And Kamala Harris is voting on bills. Both should receive time for their VP tenure. GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 19:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As the U.S. Constitution makes clear, the Vice President of the United States is not a member of the U.S. Senate, and thus is not a member of Congress. And Vice President Harris is not "voting on bills"; unlike the 100 U.S. senators, she has no role whatsoever on any committees, on voting for cloture, etc.  Pursuant to the Constitution, the Vice President only gets to vote for final approval of a bill or appointment when senators who voted are evenly divided, and that does not make the Vice President a senator.  AuH2ORepublican (talk) 23:48, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  As the U.S. Constitution makes clear, the Vice President of the United States is not a member of the U.S. Senate, and thus is not a member of Congress. Which provision of the US Constitution are you asserting? Article I, Section 3, Clause 4 confers upon the vice president the title president of the Senate and authorizes them to preside over Senate meetings. In this capacity, the vice president is responsible for maintaining order and decorum, recognizing members to speak, and interpreting the Senate's rules, practices, and precedent. [1] And Vice President Harris is not "voting on bills"; You then assert Harris is not "voting on bills" an assertation overtly rejected by the United States Constitution "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided." - Article 1, Section 3, Clause 4. This phrase can be re-worded to say "The vice president shall vote on bills so long as the Senate is evenly divided." and hold the same point. unlike the 100 U.S. senators, she has no role whatsoever on any committees, on voting for cloture, etc. Huh? This is flatly false. On November 28, 2018, Mike Pence, president of the Senate, voted to invoke cloture on Thomas Farr's nomination to the federal judiciary. The Constitution doesn't mention committees, but it does generally allow each House of Congress to set its own rules of operation (Article 1, Section 5), so it is possible that the U.S. Senate could set rules that allow the vice president to sit on a committee, as long as the role defined didn’t violate the Constitution. that does not make the Vice President a senator So the president of the Senate who votes on Senate bills and presides over the senate is not in fact a Senator? GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 19:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Vice President presides over the Senate, but is not a member. The only members of the Senate are the two senators from each state, of which the Vice President is not. The Constitution specifically states "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote." It mentions nothing about the Vice President being a member of the Senate. What it does say about the Vice President is "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided." The only votes they can use are tie-breaking votes, as set out in the Constitution. That it what the previous poster is referring to, as she wouldn't be able to vote if there was no tie. Regarding the cloture vote, that was only because it was tied, so it fell on the Vice President to cast a tie-breaking vote. In any other case, the Vice President gets no vote. And even if they were counted, Kamala Harris wouldn't be on the list as she only served four years in the Senate, well below the 36 year requirement. To answer the final question, the Vice President is not a Senator, as they do not represent any state. Them being President of the Senate and presiding over the Senate is due to them being an Ex officio member and their ability to vote on bills is limited, with no member of the Senate having the same restrictions. In recent years, the Vice President is considered part of the Executive Branch, not the Legislative Branch. 2601:241:300:B610:F9A8:D654:126F:EBB0 (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biden deserves more time 

message: ? 2A03:EC00:B148:4255:0:0:0:1 (talk) 15:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: He served in the Iowa State Legislature in 1959, but he only joined the United States Congress in 1975. 64.107.163.147 (talk) 20:51, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  why isnt chuck grassleys total tenure 64 years as he had been representative since 1959