Talk:Clarion (programming language)

message: I've restored this article back to the earlier October 2016 version without the advertising.  --Kartano (talk) 22:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restoring to October 

message: I've tagged this article for its complete lack of references. I'm going to delete some of the trivial info. Phyesalis 06:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every single person who edited this page did so to praise the language, and this is the only contribution to Wikipedia the users ever did. This includes you, too. It's just blatant promotion of the language by people who work or have worked on it, and that sort of thing doesn't belong here. Besides, this talk page is here to discuss the Wikipedia article on Clarion, and not the language itself or any of its merits whatever those may be. Leave that for Clarion-related websites, thank you. — Kieff | Talk 22:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I think the beef is that this article reads like an ad for the product. Why is this subject notable? I'm not arguing for the article's deletion, but I think there needs to be more text about its notablity and less about how easy it is so easy to use. It also requires a ton of citation. It should be tagged for sourcing. Phyesalis 06:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, the code presents issues, and it was a large part of what I deleted. But as for ridiculous, how about any point in the article? That might be a good start. I am expecting, as this is an article on software that it meet Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations), namely, that this article contain several non-trivial discussions of the product produced by a party other than the author/s. Press releases and trivial coverage do not count. And, as info not cited or sourced, it may be removed if challenged. I challenge it. Given the lack of sources and non-trivial discussion of the subject, this article (as it is currently written) should be deleted. However, work could be done to highlight this subject's notability, but again, as the article stands, it's notability is not clear. If the subject is indeed notable, there should be some reliable third-party discussion of it in a tech journal/mag. Phyesalis 18:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced / What's the POV issue here? 

message: personnel would be the correct version. as it only mentions Kahn what is trying to be said here? 21:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  marketing personel 

message: A couple of things since I just added  and  to the article:
* As the article stands right now, there's very little in the way of inline references. Many claims are made (especially in the Notability section) but no references or sources are provided to back up those claims. That's not good.
* During the mid to late 80s there was a 4GL marketing craze (at least as I remember it), and many languages were introduced which gained no respectable marketshare or following. As far as I can tell, this language was never notable and still isn't (though the AFD appears to be heading towards keep, despite my plea for anything that might establish this as notable). Even if this article is kept, it still needs to establish notability through reliable sources (which help keep things verifiable). As it is, most of this article (in its present, unsourced state) is original research and should probably be either a) trimmed back heavily or b) sourced with inline sources. 
Hopefully there's some sources out there for this stuff and it can get sorted out. —Locke Cole • t • c 08:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes on tags

message: The statement, "Clarion was created by Bruce Barrington, one of the founders of healthcare firm "HBO & Company" (now McKesson Corporation)," is inconsistent with McKesson's history as stated in its Wikipedia article. That article says McKesson was "founded in New York City as Olcott & McKesson by Charles Olcott and John McKesson in 1833." HBO didn't become McKesson; it was acquired by them. I made the change. kcylsnavS{screechharrass} 03:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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