Talk:Andrew Flintoff

message: That is a terrible photo of flintoff, anybody have a better one? 124.150.76.215 (talk) 06:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. It's a horrible pic. Please change. 134.159.132.27 (talk) 06:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Looking at the 2004 Observer article and the match report on Cricinfo.com (references 1 and 2 respectively on the page's current list), the 2 sources quote Flintoff differently after the match: the former says he said "All right for a fat lad", the latter "I played all right for a fat boy". I guess he didn't say both so does anyone have any idea which is accurate? It's not the most important thing in the world but it may as well be right if it can be confirmed. I'd probably trust Cricinfo's report at the time, of the two, which is why I chose that one when I added it to the article, anyone else have any views? Jimbow25 23:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Zimbabwe 2000 quote

message: What's the tattoo that Freddie has on his arm. Looks like "XI" but not sure. And does anyone know the significance of it? It should probably get a mention in the trivia section.--Ukdan999 17:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tattoo

message: I added the succession box for the England captaincy. This was subsequently removed with a note 'not appropriate when not appointed permanently'. This would be fair enough except that I was only adding Flintoff to be consistent with other successions on the chain. Most notably Geoffrey Boycott who was only appointed after injury to Mike Brearley who then returned later. 
For consistencies sake either Geoffrey Boycott needs removing from the captaincy succession or Andrew Flintoff needs adding. 
My personal opinion is that the succession should be for test captains and if you captain England in a Test match then you should be included.
*Hmmm.. Bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket. Boycott does confuse the matter. Tintin (talk) 09:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: England captaincy

message: "he is widely regarded as the best all-rounder in the modern game, rivalled only by Jacques Kallis."
I think it would be better and more accurate if Flintoff was described as the best genuine allrounder in the game, because Jacques Kallis is obviously not a genuine all-rounder, and Flintoff and Kallis are REALLY different types of players. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikiwizard1 (talk • contribs).
:The question of whether Kallis is 'obviously' an all-rounder or not should be brought up at Talk:Jacques Kallis rather than here, I think. Since Kallis has better Test and first-class averages in both batting and bowling than Flintoff, we should probably be a bit careful throwing the 'genuine' tag around. --Nick Boalch 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All-rounder or genuine all-rounder? 

message: Can someone confirm that this edit is correct. I checked it in a book shop. From a quick glance and from the index, I found only one brother. Tintin (talk) 12:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brother 

message: I've removed a couple of "humorous" references to the Fredilo incident added by 89.101.44.225. Apepper 17:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read his Autobiography, I think you'll find it states that he grew up supporting Liverpool Football Club and does to this day.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.200.95 (talk) 00:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent vandalism 

message: Does it need semi-protection ? Its been vandalized quite often Wildpixs 11:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: The 'Family' section says that Rachael Flintoff is expecting the couple's third child in April 2008. I haven't been surfing the net for quite a while now but I do not recall reading any auch news at all. Can someone please confirm or deny this story?? Thanks - div123.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.208.146 (talk) 06:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third child? 

message: This article needs rewriting almost from start to finish. It is filled with unverified 'facts' and opinions on his performances that are wholly individual and irrelevant in such an article. Unfortunately, cricket isn't something that Wikipedia does at all well, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.204.65 (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Unfortunately, cricket isn't something that Wikipedia does at all well" 28 FAs, 24 FLs and 61 GAs suggests your opinion is misguided. May I also inform you that article talk pages should be used to discuss ways to improve an article; not to criticize, pick apart, or vent about the current status of an article or its subject. Frankly if you're prepared to complain on the talk page of an article yet unwilling to actually edit it then I do wonder why you're here. --Jpeeling (talk) 17:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you can chuck all the 'FAs, FLs and GAs' at me that you want but that really means nothing to me. I did actually suggest ways to improve the article by pointing out its flaws, I'd have thought the obvious course of action from then on in is to iron out those flaws. I would edit it, as I used to do on a number of articles, but the increasingly picky and pedantic nature of editing on Wikipedia is not something I'm prepared to put up with again. I just find it astonishing that Wikipedia still has such a poor article about one of the sport's biggest stars. 90.212.204.65 (talk) 14:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well you made a sweeping generalisation that "cricket isn't something that Wikipedia does at all well" and I was simply giving the facts to oppose that misguided view. Secondly you didn't suggest a way of improving the article you stated "This article needs rewriting almost from start to finish. It is filled with unverified 'facts' and opinions on his performances that are wholly individual and irrelevant in such an article" that sounds more like criticism to me. On your criticism of Wikipedia well that's impossible for me to respond to as I don't know what IP/account you used and what comments you received but in two years of editing here I have never had similar concerns. Any negative comments relating to my edits have always been constructive criticism which is entirely lacking when it comes to your comments on this article. --Jpeeling (talk) 15:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, perhaps I did make a sweeping generalisation. What I should have said is that in my experience of reading cricket-related articles, especially those relating to players, on Wikipedia it's my opinion that they are not written at all well the majority of the time. The fact is that the article *is* filled with personal opinions that don't or shouldn't belong here. Opinions on the quality of his performances in certain matches or series should be sourced with references to creditable media. For instance - "Flintoff's own play in the 2006-07 series, both bowling and at the crease, was generally deemed disappointing." and "Ultimately, he failed to influence an ailing English side and had a poor tournament." Neither of these are sourced. There is no mention of his first test century and the record-breaking stand it helped forge with Graham Thorpe. No mention of the 38 run over he subjected Alex Tudor to in a county game against Surrey just after the start of his international career. No mention of his controversial recent comments in a GQ interview. It's by no means a personal criticism of you as I don't pay any attention to who writes or edits articles. My point is that this article should be a lot better but that I'm not surprised considering the articles relating to cricket I've read on Wikipedia. Like I say, nothing personal, but I have no intention of editing and having some other editor(s) (not you, necessarily) delete my edits on account of some piddling discrepancy. Of course, all this time I've spent waffling and complaining about it could have been spent editing it, but there you go! 90.212.204.65 (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article quality 

message: Whats the deal with the chips and beans?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.37.187 (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Chips and beans

message: At the young age of sixteen, Andrew moved to Lanchashire.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.192.146 (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 80.7.192.146, 18 September 2010 

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message: The TV series with Flintoff in a chippy van, Flintoff: Lord of the Fries, has had several names in the TV guides around the world. There isn't a good reference for series titles and episode lists complete with places and release dates. The episodes in Australia "Freddie Fries Down Under" may have been shown in the UK a month later than in Australia with a shorter title which adds to the confusion. Despite the name changes, they are all pretty much the same format. The changing names remind me of the Blackadder series which had different series titles each year. tygrus (talk) 02:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmography 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved  Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Andrew Flintoff →  – Whilst "Andrew" is Flintoff's full & real name, he goes by the moniker "Freddie" in more areas than he does Andrew.  The BBC credit him as Freddie for more than they credit him as "Andrew" - for example the "high quality BBC source" used to revert the last change is about a TV programme called "Freddie Flintoff: Living with Bulimia", not "Andrew Flintoff: Living with Bulimia".  Top gear and A league of their own ("Freddie's Team") all credit him as Freddie, as does his own chippy series - "Freddie fries again" and "Freddie down under".
Yes, his name is Andrew, but his common name is Freddie. Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 16 April 2021