Template talk:Paganism

message: Not happy with this. It's a mass of redirects, and some of the names chosen for the articles are not supported by the articles they redirect to, which brings up POV concerns in their naming. It's organized oddly, and some of the groups on here don't fit. I appreciate the effort, but this really is not suitable to go plastering on every article connected to Paganism/Neopaganism or Polytheism. 
I'm not sure it can be fixed. Something like this has been tried in the past, but it wound up angering people at the attempt to group together traditions that many did not see as appropriate to group in that manner. Unless this can be completely rethought and seriously improved, I am removing it from the articles, at least for now. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unhappy with this

message: Pigmanwhat?/trail 02:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Placing code here for the moment

message: *The entire "Pagan inspired philosophical systems". Inaccurate, many of these have nothing to do with paganism except the pagan Hellenistic cultures created them. There's nothing implicitly or explicitly "pagan" about most of them. This why they are philosophical systems, not religious systems.
*The many poorly thought out links that only go to redirects. Along with this is the POV renaming of the Wikipedia articles linked to in order to conform to the template creator's POV vision of "correct" names. 
*Most of the "Indigenous faiths" links are useless, going to sections of lists. Plus classifying them as pagan isn't really accurate.
There are more problems which is why I put it here but these are for starters.  Pigmanwhat?/trail 03:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with this template

message: Both I and others put effort into making this. I really think this should be reformed, not simply deleted. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:54, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All that effort.... 

message: Several templates have recently been produced and added to pages within this general area, namely:
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I'm a bit concerned that this profusion has taken place without much discussion from editors who work on these articles. Some articles could conceivably be tagged with 3 or 4 of these templates: indeed, Wicca already has three. I mean no criticism of the creators of the templates - but I suggest that this should be discussed centrally so that there is a degree of uniformity in articles within the same family. If you would like to join this discussion, please do not reply here, but go instead to the talk page I have set up for this purpose. Many thanks! Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 23:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk page for all templates relating to this topic

message: Hello everybody!
I recently changed the title of "Paganism and Neopaganism" to simply "Paganism" because there is another template solely called "Neopaganism". This template does include a part about Neopaganism, but that is because "Neopaganism" is a part of "Paganism", and therefore I think that my edit was the better title, though what is the general concensus? I think that we need to discuss this first :) (Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one has relplied to this in a while, I'm going to go ahead and make the change, but this does need discussing. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no problem with renaming the template (and it does undo a confusing overlap)> But I do still have a more fundamental question about whether these different templates are (a) necessary and (b) desirable - but that's for another day. As long as the rename doesn't cause any technical difficulties (not my field of expertise!) go ahead as far as I'm concerned. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 23:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the end i went for the change to Paganism (Historical Polytheism, Ethnic Religion and Neo-Paganism). This explains clearly the different forms of Paganism and how they are all represented in this general template. I hope everyone see's this as the best option. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 15:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title - "Paganism and Neopaganism" or just "Paganism" 

message: I don't think that Native American religions (Central or Northern) and Asian traditional religions (Hindu, Chinese, Shinto) are in the right place in this template, since they're not conventionally classified as "Pagan". --Jormunpherreik (talk) 12:29, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A majority of world religions, even if they are smaller, are not Abrahamic, so it would be impossible and undesirable to try to include them all. Most Native Americans don't identify as "pagan" (I'm sure individuals do), and traditional indigenous religions aren't self-identified as "pagan." The template should stick to pagan/neo-pagan-related topics. Native American religions should be removed. -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. An IP tried to put Natives in this again. I have removed it. Native ceremonial people see "pagan" or "Pagan" as an insult. There are even members of other traditional cultures who do not want any association with the NeoPagan community. Many Native religions are considered by their adherents to be monotheistic or henotheistic, not polytheistic, so they don't even belong in a polytheism category. - Slàn, Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 20:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native American religions and generic folk religion 

message: This template partly covers contemporary Paganism, but there is already a . It seems to me that either the Neopagan movements section should be removed or  should be merged hear.
I support merging because  does not have much unique content and desisting topics in its scope does not make much sense either.—Sowlos (talk) 13:47, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: This template includes what are generally  considered to be non-pagan religions and has recently been added to a number of non-pagan religions. As this is a quite page, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion. Dougweller (talk) 16:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion over content 

message: Paganism, close to the likes of heresy, is a very loaded term and defined from a Christian/Monotheistic POV. Proposal to change. 144.32.60.216 (talk) 20:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: The template is filled with religions that historically were never called "Paganism". Has this template still any sense under the title "Paganism"? Should not it be better to expand its scope to "Paganism, ethnic and indigenous religions"?--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 05:51, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. The Verified Cactus 100% 19:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The template now covers a wide range of different topics