Talk:Kristin Halvorsen

message: I edited the newly added statement (by Jalapenos do exist) about the alleged shouts of "Death to Israel" during an anti-operation-cast-lead march that Halvorsen allegedly led. This was clearly POV and a massive majority of highly credible Norwegian media and people believe this to be outright wrong (as indicated by the attached sources).
--Larssl (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved your comment down on this page because it is suppose to be cronilogical. Also, I copy edited the material about the demonstration because it made it sound like the subject of this article was shouting "death to the Jews" which I doubt anybody is reporting, but who knows, correct this if that was the case. Also, your comment says that she "allegedly" led? Is there a question as to whether she led this or is that just my misunderstanding? Anyways, this looks like it happened today or yesterday? Stay tuned :)--Tom (talk) 17:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the screen grab here that the paper has, it implies that she was shouting death to the Jews. Wodge (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

text:  Here's the sentence: Numerous government officials decried Israel's actions in Gaza - including Minister of Finance Kristin Halvorsen, who led a march shouting, "Death to the Jews!" Numerous government officials decried Israel's actions in Gaza - including Minister of Finance Kristin Halvorsen, who led a march shouting, "Death to the Jews!" Wodge (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This must be some translation problem. Are you telling me that Halvorsen is being accused of yelling "Death to the Jews"?!? I can asure you that the J Post article did not imply that. Any paper running that better cover their asses it seems.  Anyways, can we get some english language editions or more clarification from any friends in Norway :)? TIA --Tom (talk) 22:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what happened. Have a look at the talk page for Antisemitic incidents during the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict and scroll down to the Norway section. I put a few links there. The JPost retraction link is there too. Wodge (talk) 22:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Tom: Thanks for the formatting tip. That was no translation problem, sadly, as the references show. However, following the detraction and the new article by JP, it might have become irrelevant to write much about this incident (which is now nearly a non-incident) in an article about Halvorsen? This is, after all, not at all what she is actually known for professionally and personally. I would suggest moving most of the description of this incident to create a criticism/controversy-section (with a Norway sub-section?) in the article about Jerusalem Post and possibly describe it in anti-semitism in Norway. Opinions? Btw, totally agree with the edits by you guys, looks better now. --Larssl (talk) 08:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about a new section on  this page called Jerusalem Post Libel or something like that. I do think the incident is notable so we should have a brief mention of it. Wodge (talk) 10:02, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't add a section here or to the J Post. Again, I read the original story and it didn't say that she shouted the slur. I read the retraction, and they probably said what they said to cover their asses. Anyways, this is pretty minor and unless more develops, I would leave it out of the encyclopedia, this more tabloid fodder at this point. Anyways, Tom (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted the relevant sentence from JPost above. How exactly can you claim that it doesn't imply Halvorsen was doing the shouting? Wodge (talk) 21:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There were two versions of the JPost article. The issue is dead. WP:GETOVERIT. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 22:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So an alleged increase in antisemitism is notable and has a whole article devoted to it. Yet newspapers printing fallacious stories to whip up hysteria about antisemitism isn't? And by the way there were three articles. The first said she shouted the chant. The second said she was in a march where somebody else had shouted it. And last but not least, was Jpost's retraction which grudgingly admitted there was no chanting. Wodge (talk) 23:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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