Talk:Shotgun cartridge

message: The title of this piece is: 'Shotgun Shell'. I think most shotgun shooters define a slug as something other than a shell. Strictly speaking a shell is an enclosed/sealed casing containing propellant and projectile(s) and this certainly could cover both shot and slug loads (plus other exotics). However for the puposes of specificity and in recognition of the fact that we have and use distinct terms like 'shotgun slug', the two should be considered separate types of load for shotguns.
That being said, a one-stop reference page for shotgun ammunition would certainly include a TOC with each type identified, no?
So, why not change the title of the piece to 'ammunition' instead of 'shell' and include 'shell' as a sub-type (albeit the primary sub-type)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.162.199.228 (talk) 19:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Against, with proviso... 

message: When I bought my first and only shotgun, a Remington Model 870 Express Magnum 12-gauge, I was told to make sure I got the one that will fire 3" magnums. However, I don't think I have ever fired 3" magnums out of it. All I've done with it is Trap & Skeet shooting. In fact, I'm not even sure if I have ever fired them unless that's what my dad had us using on hunts when we were kids. Twenty years later I still don't know. I learned a lot of stuff from this article, but, I did not learn anything about what I came here for. The gun's barrel is even engraved with info on this. I know it's similar to how my revolver will fire .38's or .357's, but it seems like I should know about 3 inch magnums and what they're for. So I strongly feel that a Wikipedia article called "Shotgun shell" should explain this. BillyTFried (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The length designation refers to the uncrimped length of the shotshell's hull.  Even among shells of the same nominal length, the lengths of loaded shotshells can vary depending upon the crimp style: roll crimp versus star crimp.  Shorter shotshells can be fired in longer chambers due to the fact that they headspace on their rim.  Longer shotshells should not be forced into shorter chambers, as the crimped portion will not have enough room to properly unfold.  This can raise pressures and possibly damage the shotgun.  --D.E. Watters (talk) 21:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

text: There 3.5", 3", and 2.75" Magnum loads for 12 gauge.  The first two are all typically classified as Magnums, but not all 2.75" are.  The designation Magnum refers to a shell having extra powder and/or shot (pellets).  It is believed to confer extra range either through the added velocity or increased pattern density of the shot.  --D.E. Watters (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about 3-inch Magnums? 

message: I'm not sure what they are referring to, but the word "Dram" does not appear in this article at all. BillyTFried (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A dram is a unit of weight.  The blackpowder charges of old shotshells were typically weighed in drams.  Once semi-smokeless and smokeless powders were introduced, the weight of powder needed decreased for a given level of performance.  So, shotshell makers advertised dram equivalents instead.  This indicated the equivalent power of a smokeless powder shotshell to an old shotshell using that number of drams of black powder. --D.E. Watters (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Article here dram (drachm).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 18:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Dram? 

message: I would just like to say that perhaps the article should be moved or merged or something.I would consider "cartridge" to be the proper term.A cartridge,it gun sense,packages primer,powder,and bullet,in the case,into one package,designed to precisely fit the firing chamber(s) of the arm chambering it.is this not what these do?In real life conversation and such,I use the term "cartridge(s)" to refer to these.Can anybody contest this,can anyone provide where the term "shell" came from to refer to shotgun cartridges?because "cartridge(s)" is common use in places,and seems proper.cheers,Keserman (talk) 21:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  shell/cartridge 

message: Who?2601:806:4301:C100:E163:BCCC:8CC9:D921 (talk) 22:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor? 

message: The lead is currently largely composed of information (flechettes, slugs, rifled shotguns, sabot) which isn't in the main body. This information should be moved into the main body, and the lead rewritten to be a summary of the entire article. (Hohum @) 17:51, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead rewrite 

message: Recent editors: Greetings and felicitations.  The table in the "Birdshot selection" subsection looks fine in my desktop browser (Firefox 66.0.2 running under macOS Mojave v. 10.14.4) but in my phone's browser (iOS Safari v. 12.2) it shows an extra, empty column on the righthand side, which I cannot fix nor find the reason for.  Help, please? —DocWatson42 (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Doc. I'm not clear on how I can help you, except to point you to WP:Village pump (technical). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:   Thanks—I'll try that.  (I'm seeing the same thing in the "Standard" subsection's table, and the Battleship (game)#Description section's table as well.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with a problematic table