Talk:Yellow Deli

message: WP:V Appears to be personal memoir. Needs better and verifiable sources. --Nagle 06:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quality of Article

message: If you click on the "What links here" link to the left while you're in the article, the only substantive link to here is from the 12 tribes article.  Added several categories so that others may find articles to link here. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What links here

message: Repeated links that are formatted incorrectly, most don't point to a website even when you reformat them, and most of the rest don't have anything to do with the Yellow Deli.  Offered assistance on user's talk page.RevelationDirect (talk) 17:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unconstructive edits by [[User talk:Chezikah|Chezikah]]

message: ===Text===
The Yellow Deli has been criticized for being controlling of their own members. People who join their community are asked to give up all their possession including money and vehicles. Resistant to outside influence, community members are also asked to leave any respective schools they are enrolled in. Children aren't considered children of their parents, but of God and are raised by various people in the community under strict guidelines for punishment. Members also do not eat the food they server to the public. 
Accounts of the working conditions state that members work long hours, sometimes up to twenty hours a day. Outside newspapers, magazines and television are prohibited. Members aren't permitted to vote in government elections and children aren't allow to have toys, play games or participate in make-believe.   Elliott, Tim. Spare the rod and spoil the …. The Sydney Morning Herald.. 2009-09-04. URL:http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-133/2008/03/23/1206206927458.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1. Accessed: 2009-09-04. (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5jXoTyMwy)
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===Discussion===
An editor removed this material with the edit summary: "poorly sourced with mallicous intent". Intent doesn't matter. The Sydney Morning Herald appears to be a fine source. The Chattanoogan looks a bit like a blog, and if it's a first-person account by a former follower the views should be attributed. There are other sources that discuss giving up possessions. However if this is just a facility run by Twelve Tribes then all we need here is a short summary of their beliefs or the controveries. The bigger question is whether to merge this into the Twelve Tribes article.   Will Beback  talk   19:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what makes The Sydney Morning Herald a website that's been "deemed not up to wikistandard". But it's a moot point if we agree on merging this into Twelve Tribes.   Will Beback  talk   21:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

text: The Chattanoogan link appears to go to a blog-like entry, and if it's used it should be noted that it is written by a former follower. However the bigger question is about merging this article into the parent topic. I've tagged both articles. See Talk:Twelve_Tribes_(New_religious_movement)#Yellow_Deli_merger for that discussion.   Will Beback  talk   18:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: An editor removed this material with the edit summary: "poorly sourced with mallicous intent". Intent doesn't matter. The Sydney Morning Herald appears to be a fine source. The Chattanoogan looks a bit like a blog, and if it's a first-person account by a former follower the views should be attributed. There are other sources that discuss giving up possessions. However if this is just a facility run by Twelve Tribes then all we need here is a short summary of their beliefs or the controveries. The bigger question is whether to merge this into the Twelve Tribes article.   Will Beback  talk   19:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what makes The Sydney Morning Herald a website that's been "deemed not up to wikistandard". But it's a moot point if we agree on merging this into Twelve Tribes.   Will Beback  talk   21:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

text: The Chattanoogan link appears to go to a blog-like entry, and if it's used it should be noted that it is written by a former follower. However the bigger question is about merging this article into the parent topic. I've tagged both articles. See Talk:Twelve_Tribes_(New_religious_movement)#Yellow_Deli_merger for that discussion.   Will Beback  talk   18:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: This article refers to the deli in the past tense, but no refernece is made to when or how the deli closed, if in fact it did.
66.31.76.221 (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: End Of The Deli

message: OK, here is the discussion User:Weaponbb7 should have started instead of once again deleting the whole section without discussion:
:There is another restaurant article on P. J. Clarke's which is owned by George Steinbrenner.  Now clearly, criticism of Steinbrenner's management of the Yankees would be inappropriate in that article because the owner is not really relavant.  We can't present such a bright line here because the owner uses this restaurant as a recruiting tool and they directly staff it.  Still, who cares how they raise their kids; is there a daycare on site or are they using child labor?  Does giving up all money mean they don't keep their tips?  Not eating the same food they server and working long hours are both on point, but how is not voting related to the restaurant?  I'm in favor of limiting critism to critiques that apply specifically to the Yellow Deli rather than the 12 Tribes in general.  If we really can't distinguish, that's one more reason to merge this article (which I favor).RevelationDirect (talk) 23:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism