Talk:Michael Gira

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Michael Gira in Moscow by Cheslav Merk.jpg

message: He played The Cowboy in Mulholland Drive.Cromulant (talk) 03:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Mulholland Drive

message: Should we discuss Larkin Grimm's recent accusation in the article? I mean, just make it known, considering that it's a very hot topic. I know the whole bit about unsourced content about living people, but there are plenty of sources repeating the article. Maybe write in "controversy"? I'm willing to write the article, I just want the OK to do so. Pharkryi (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as you have good sourcing and follow guidelines, I don't see why not. R. A. Simmons Talk  23:30, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

text: lol you sound scared, what skeletons are in your closet  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.154.173 (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

text: ”history of fake rape claims” uhhhhhh, [citation needed]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.61.11.105 (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

text: I have removed the allegations. These should not be restored without a consensus to do so. Feel free to discuss here or at  WP:BLPN-- Deepfriedokra   14:42, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

text: Agreed it's absence comes off as highly suspicious, like we're trying to launder his image.Gagaluv1 (talk) 02:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accused rape? 

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message: As anyone can see in the edit history, there's a small edit war going on between sides for and against including the rape allegations.
As I see it, there's only one user on the talkpage (Lemonlimeotter) who was opposed.
I'd suggest that we try to edit the section so that's it's smaller and contains Gira's viewpoint as well. In the current culture with so many sexual assault allegations, and it being covered so heavily in the media, I think we should include it in biographies, but from a neutral standpoint. Funtaine (talk) 18:18, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record: I'd prefer to leave it out, or mention it only in passing. This is a BLP; it was an unsubstantiated accusation. There was some coverage in the music press at the time, but there's been no lasting attention to it media since. Yilloslime (talk) 18:46, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've explained directly above, and also here: User talk:Yilloslime#Reverted edits to Michael Gira, I really don't think the rape allegation needs to be included at all, but I am not categorically against mentioning it either. This is, however, a WP:BLP and extreme care must taken with type of thing. The text that the IP editor from Melbourne keeps inserting gives the whole thing way too much WP:WEIGHT (putting it in its own section), and the long quote from the accuser borders on being a WP:SOAPBOX. Plus, the sourcing aint great: Billboard and Pitchfork aren't sufficient for this sort of thing. Finally, see WP:RECENT--the allegation was reported in a few music sources at the time, but has had little to no lasting coverage. Ergo, I'm removing the section. Yilloslime (talk) 03:08, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

text: I dealt with a similar example on another article some months back, and I was pointed towards WP:BLPCRIME which deals with adding information with regards to "well known" individuals. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reinstatement of rape allegations