Talk:Ferenc Puskás

message: How can Puskas have the World Player of the year award if that prize didnt exist at all in 1952,1953?
The Golden ball was awarded to the best european player since 1956 and to the best world player in this decade
The FIFA World player is an award created in the 90's (1991 to be exact)
The World Soccer player of the year by World Soccer magazine was created in 1982
The FIFPro World soccer player of the year was created in this century
Anyone knows where that unsourced information comes from?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.138.138.165 (talk) 13:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  World player of the year 

message: he died --66.65.56.199 17:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: How can Charlie Buchan be one of his heroes, when he retired from playing the year Puskás was born? 195.26.63.54 08:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heroes 

message: Can someone give some details? I have been reading a book "Everton in Europe", in its chapter of the match between Everton and the Greek side Pukas coached, it mentioned that he was away with his club in "free" Europe while Hungarian uprising was crushed by the USSR troops. Can someone with a better source confirm this and add this information to the page? I think it's an important move to Pukas career, without which he would not have been playing a partnership with Di Stefano.
Your source was right, he and several other players of "The Golden Team" remained abroad (mostly in Austria and Italy) after the invasion of the Red Army, but being threatened with an incredible two-year FIFA ban that forbade clubs even to let the "fugitives" train with them, most of them chose to return. Those few who refused to return had to wait until '59 to be signed. --Biziclop 16:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Hungarian Soccer Association wanted two years of suspension. However, the FIFA only accepted a 1 year ban. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.125.134 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 22 December 2006
It is very important to understand that Puskas did not really want to leave Hungary.  No Hungarian footballer really did.  The revolution in Hungary progressed rapidly and ended somewhat suddenly with the fast advance of Soviet forces.  Hungarians who publicly sided with the rebels were considered outlaws and hunted.  The Hungarians breifly had beaten the Soviet Union's occupying forces in the streets of Hungary and NATO support was being sought by all.  It seemed reasonable to think an independent Hungary, with help, was possible and worth supporting from abroad.  Puskas, among other famous Mighty Magyars, supported this effort from outside Hungary where help was to come from.  Help never came and Puskas and the others either rejoined their families in Hungary at the risk of persecution or, the more vocal group like Puskas, stayed out in order to stay alive.  This was the consequence for any Hungarian rebel at that time, my father included.  It was also the Soviet controlled Hungarian Soccer Association that forced the ban on FIFA.  No mention seems to be made on the justification of the FIFA ban.(signed - G. Togel)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grtogel (talk • contribs) 18:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why he left Hungary 

message: I don't know anything about Puskas, and from what I understand he is a legend. However, this page has many comments such as 'the finist team of the era', 'the finest player' etc... I'm not disputing it, I think it would be good to have more reference. Azymuthca 19:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: I'm not sure that the list of international goals is appropriate, it seems to me to be an excessive level of detail. Oldelpaso 22:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of goals

message: Previous version included too many flags and an over use of date linking in the infobox. Puskás career was not done justice by just dividing into two eras - Hungary and Spain. Previous version of coaching career was little more then a list of clubs he managed. This is already in infobox. Events in later life are better included in opening section which gives an overview of his life. Later sections can provide more detail to his career. 
Djln--Djln 17:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The introduction should stand on its own as a summary of the article, everything in it should be expanded upon lower down. See WP:LEAD for details. Hence I think the later life details should remain at the end of the article. Oldelpaso 19:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: We can verify number of goals, so we can claim the greatest scorer.  Most think scoring is the hardest part.  This way we can still say "greatest" Chivista 14:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer removal of that type of language from the Pele et al also, and replace it with... so and so is considered by the 1995 survey of sportswriters as the greatest or is the only player elected unamoiunsly in the futbol hall of fame etc. Chivista 14:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The ironic thing is that we know he was great,... we just can't be too emphatic without quoting someone esle, the more famous the quoted person the more easily we can get our edit accepted as not "mere" opinion.  But we all know that much of the wiki is opinion based (yet fact supported).  We are merely an encyc, not the stuff of basic research.  We would succeed if we could provide researchers links and direction, not the last word on every fact.  Wiki is very good at providinf a research tool for people who don't know a thing about a give topic. Chivista 14:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed the claim from Alfredo Di Stéfano, Ferenc Puskás, Michel Platini, Diego Maradona, Johan Cruijff and Pelé. Quotes saying "x considered him the greatest" are fine, as with the opening paragraph in the George Best article. I think saying "most successful" or "most prolific golscorer" is better than just stating "one of the greatest". Goals and trophies are easy to back up with references, "greatness" is POV. I started a related conversation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. Stu ’Bout ye! 15:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Greatness

message: According to German olympic committee
http://www.footballfairplay.com/2010/10/germany%C2%B4s-1954-world-cup-winners-%C2%B4were-doped%C2%B4.html
http://www.cbssports.com/soccer/story/14192143/study-german-1954-world-cup-winners-were-doped
http://www.footballfairplay.com/2010/10/germany%C2%B4s-1954-world-cup-winners-%C2%B4were-doped%C2%B4.html
http://www.footballfairplay.com/2010/10/germany%C2%B4s-1954-world-cup-winners-%C2%B4were-doped%C2%B4.html
http://www.newstime.co.za/Sport/Study_claims_Germany%E2%80%99%E2%80%99s_1954_cup_winners_doped/13704/
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/worldcup/story/Study-1954-World-Cup-champions-Germany-were-doped  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.114.153 (talk) 16:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Study: Germany 1954 World Cup winners 'were doped'

message: This text looks like an ode to Ferenc Puskás, not like an encyclopedic article (Iaaasi (talk) 09:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: I think the article lacks the information why he didn't play in later world cups. I consider he didn't play in 1958 and 1962, as well as 1966, although he was still a player, not retired...
Can someone fill in the gap in the article or at least for me? --134.161.69.50 (talk) 04:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about world cups other than 1954? 

message: Was Puskás's full name officially Ferenc Puskás Jr.?  According to Hungarian Wikipedia, his father was a Senior (‘id.’ is short for ‘idősebb’, or senior), but the page for Puskás himself doesn't say that he was a Junior (‘ifjabb’, or ‘ifj.’ for short, in Hungarian). Esszet (talk) 20:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferenc Puskás Jr.? 

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message: Can someone please verify the origin of the 4 games, 4 goals for Honved in 'continental' matches in 1955? As far as I know, Honved only played 2 matches in the European Cup, with Puskas appearing in both and scoring once. They lost the tie and the team broke up. But that was in late 1956 (albeit relates to their qualification by winning the Hungarian league in 55) so should be in a separate column. And where are the other 2 games / 3 goals coming from? If it's not obvious to me, it might not be to others either so I think if the stats are correct, there should be a label beside them to explain what matches they refer to? Crowsus (talk) 09:14, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: He was born as Franz Purczeld.Tthe attempted hungarification be the editor is not based on facts. Bring some sources or leave it be. Sources (german):
https://kulturstiftung.donauschwaben.net/veranstaltungen/2011_03_26_ferenc_puskas
https://issuu.com/raiissuu/docs/korrespondenz_24_1_2007 p.24  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redxdevil (talk • contribs) 14:53, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeatedly changing to wrong birthname 

message: From the introduction: "Ferenc Puskás ... né Ferenc Puskás". Is it me, or the two names are identical? 2A00:23C5:3408:4101:6D53:BBAC:E13A:2210 (talk) 23:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction --> name 

message: The article claims the player is the one who gave most assists in the history of soccer, and the statement is completely unsourced. It should be either sourced for such important claim or removed.
:Agreed. Can't see any source for the claim, and the table format isn't our standard MOS. Have removed pursuant to a reliable source being provided. Koncorde (talk) 21:35, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absolutely relevant claim completely unsourced