Talk:Diamond Way Buddhism

message: I will add a link to a scholarly paper, published by Routledge, available as an extended web-version by the author:
Scherer, Bee (2018). ‘Neo-orthodox Tradition and Transition: Lama Ole Nydahl and the Diamond Way’ (Extended version of ‘A Neo-orthodox Buddhist Movement in Transition: The Diamond Way’, in E. Gallagher (ed.) 2017. Visioning New and Minority Religions: Projecting the Future. London: Routledge, pp. 156-165), available online at https://info-buddhism.com/Ole_Nydahl_and_Diamond_Way_B_Scherer.html
Kt66 (talk) 23:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link added 

message: This claim in the article, based on a WP:SPS, is plain wrong. In fact, the Nydahls arrived only 9 years after the first Westerner became a student of the Karmapa, Freda Bedi in 1960. Tenzin Palmo another British woman and student of the Karmapa, arrived 1963 in India. The Karmapa ordained Bedi in 1966 and Tenzin Palmo in 1967. So when the Nydahls met the Karmapa there were already Westerners long before them. I changed the passage respectively. For Tenzin Palmo ordination see her website: "In 1967 she received the sramanerika ordination at Rumtek Monastery in Sikkim from H.H. the 16th Karmapa." http://tenzinpalmo.com/jetsunma-tenzin-palmo/ and "Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo was the second western nun to be ordained by His Holiness the 16th Karmapa." http://tenzinpalmo.com/the-world-needs-yoginis/ Waschi (talk) 16:38, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Just for sake of transparency. I forgot to logout as User:Waschi – a user name I use for another language version of Wikipedia. User:Waschi is therefore not a sock puppet of me but just another account for another language version of Wikipedia which I forgot to logout from when making the changes. HTH Kt66 (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Claim: "They became the first Western students of the 16th Karmapa in 1969." 

message: The part which was removed by other editors. Please help to bring up to scratch for the article:
There is also a lot of well-sourced information about Ole Nydahl's controversies on the Ole Nydahl page which really needs to be added to this article also, since he is the leader and founder of this cult, it's important at least some of the controversies are mentioned. It's a shame this article seems to have been whitewashed of all criticism 
===Sexual Abuse and Cult Accusations===
Ole Nydahl has admitted having sexual relationships with his female followers. When confronted about this in an interview, he simply said "There’s no teacher-student relationship involved in that. They’re Diamond Way Buddhists, but they’re not my students in that moment. They’re equal partners.".https://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/joe-orso-lama-ole-buddhist-teacher-or-charlatan/article_bc6ed916-d197-11de-85b7-001cc4c002e0.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/articles.html There have also been many who have claimed Ole Nydahl's Diamond Way group is a cult.http://buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=70,2619,0,0,1,0http://www.lamatruth.com/ying/?type=detail&id=34https://www.hymzwb.net/english/news/news29.htmhttps://buddhism-controversy-blog.com/2014/06/30/propaganda-the-making-of-the-holy-lama-ole-nydahl/https://www.viewonbuddhism.org/controversy-controversial-teacher-group-center-questionable.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/https://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/joe-orso-lama-ole-buddhist-teacher-or-charlatan/article_bc6ed916-d197-11de-85b7-001cc4c002e0.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/cult.htmlhttps://losinglabels.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/ole-nydahl-and-diamond-way-legitimate-or-cult/http://www.lamatruth.com/ying/?type=detail&id=313https://marte-micaela-riepe.blogspot.com/2011/10/thursday-july-14-2011-ole-nydahl.htmlhttps://wikileaks.org/wiki/Ole_Nydahl_Diamond_Way_Buddhist_books
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.188.14.152 (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging you, since you dealt with similar edits at Ole Nydahl. —C.Fred (talk) 20:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding information and sources about Ole Nydahl's sexual abuse and his cult he's built up around himself 

message: Ole Nydahl has admitted having sexual relationships with his female followers. When confronted about this in an interview, he simply said "There’s no teacher-student relationship involved in that. They’re Diamond Way Buddhists, but they’re not my students in that moment. They’re equal partners.".https://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/joe-orso-lama-ole-buddhist-teacher-or-charlatan/article_bc6ed916-d197-11de-85b7-001cc4c002e0.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/articles.html There have also been many who have claimed Ole Nydahl's Diamond Way group is a cult.http://buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=70,2619,0,0,1,0http://www.lamatruth.com/ying/?type=detail&id=34https://www.hymzwb.net/english/news/news29.htmhttps://buddhism-controversy-blog.com/2014/06/30/propaganda-the-making-of-the-holy-lama-ole-nydahl/https://www.viewonbuddhism.org/controversy-controversial-teacher-group-center-questionable.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/https://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/joe-orso-lama-ole-buddhist-teacher-or-charlatan/article_bc6ed916-d197-11de-85b7-001cc4c002e0.htmlhttps://diamondwaycult.netlify.com/cult.htmlhttps://losinglabels.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/ole-nydahl-and-diamond-way-legitimate-or-cult/http://www.lamatruth.com/ying/?type=detail&id=313https://marte-micaela-riepe.blogspot.com/2011/10/thursday-july-14-2011-ole-nydahl.htmlhttps://wikileaks.org/wiki/Ole_Nydahl_Diamond_Way_Buddhist_books
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.188.14.152 (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging you, since you dealt with similar edits at Ole Nydahl. —C.Fred (talk) 20:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexual Abuse and Cult Accusations