Talk:Guy Ballard

message: I don't know anything about this person however I edited the spelling and grammar (is that a Wikisin?)  Does anyone know anything about Guy Ballard?  Sounds like an interesting enough guy, worthy of a Wikipedia article I suppose.
Paul 23:02, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you sure? What happened to Jesus? One could say that one need not literally believe that Jesus's physical body ascended into heaven on Easter Sunday to believe that his spirit "ascended" in some broader sense, or that he was a great mystic, teacher and Son of God and one of the greats of religious history etc. etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.196.222 (talk) 12:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This needs to be addressed by a non-member of his group.  I don't want to do it right now, but someone should go through this and rewrite for neutrality.  I've added the rewrite tag. I'll watch the page, so if you have more questions about what needs to be improved, just ask. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:55, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I tried, but it seems the stuff about the I AM activity is already covered less weaselly in a main article on it. I suggest after the first bits about Guy Ballard, the I AM stuff could be culled out. Does anyone know how he died? Also, this article says his wife was in legal strife but the activity article states they both were, so in the interests of biography I will transfer some personal stuff across. Julia Rossi 06:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This needs cleanup, neutrality 

message: Helena Petrovna Blavatsky in 1851 was contacted by the Master Morya, resulting in Theosophy which deals with many Ascended Masters and 1851 is many years before 1930 so Guy Ballard could not have been the original nucleus except within the "I Am" Activity Dr Ron Howe (talk) 18:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracy of information or bias of information 

message: I'm thinking about this again. There's a lot of duplicated info here.  How does one propose an official merger? --Bluejay Young (talk) 19:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging this with I Am Religious Activity Article 

message: Coming to the article in 2021 to get the birth and death dates of Guy Ballard, i checked into the Talk page and read the old discussions about a merge proposal. I am glad that the merge did not take place. I would have liked more biographical material on Mr. Ballard, not less, as would have resulted had the article been effaced by merging into the I Am Activity page. 
I am not a follower of the I Am Activity or its offshoots by any means; my chief interest is in Charles Sindelar, the artist of the original "Voice of I Am" magazines and the conceptualist responsible for most of the I Am Activity art during Guy Ballard's lifetime. However, because i do write professionally about metaphysical subjects, i find individual Wikipedia bios quite useful for basic facts (birth, marriage, offspring, publications, death). This is true of many other figures of history, and it is with regret that i am so often disappointed by the skeptic / anti-religious / anti-metaphysical editors who delete perfectly good articles on notable people in the world of metaphysics, simply out of ignorance, claiming them to be non-notable, when in fact they are notable. 
Back when i was a regular contributor to and promoter of Wikipedia, i saw many of my own bios of important people in the various metaphysical, magical, occult, and related fields deleted. Edit wars and claims of non-notability were used as weapons against documentation of an area of human social life that skeptic / anti-religious / anti-metaphysical editors did not want to see commemorated. I no longer even try to get such bios into Wikipedia. I had to start my own Media Wiki sites to get the basic bio information online. 
I will be writing about Charles Sindelar and his influence on the visual conceptions of the Ascended Masters, but i am here to say that the fact that a Guy Ballard article remains here at all is actually quite remarkable. Long may it wave. 
catherine yronwode, not logged in, Wikipedian since 2006 75.101.104.17 (talk) 18:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glad this was not merged