Talk:Śrāvaka

message: While I like nurturing articles that deal with positive common aspects of the so-called Dharmic religions (e.g., such as this one involving both Buddhism and Jainism, or others involving Buddhism and Hinduism), I like even more developing pan-Buddhist articles (e.g., those that discuss the variously evolving core notions across Buddhist schools, as was attempted more-or-less in the Skandha article).  So, this article's content feels a wee misplaced to me; in particular, I've been thinking about moving some or most of the content to a pan-Buddhist Disciple (Buddhism) article and leaving just a paragraph or two in this article to allow for an appreciation of the dual-religious aspects of "savaka."  (For me, this article calls out for a pan-Buddhist treatment from the very first sentence where the Tibetan term, nyan.thos, is introduced!) Anyone else have any thoughts or concerns about such a move?  Thanks in advance, LarryR (talk) 18:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. This looks like a good and needed article on a thorny subject. Though it would be improved by a treatment of the various ways Mahayana and Vajrayana denominations use the term sravaka. If I understand what you're suggesting, I suspect it's grafting a western idea of discipleship on a different culture. An article based on the English sense of the word disciple (overlapping with the meaning of sravaka) would have to include all sorts of relationships, even relationships among highly devoted persons who hypothesize the sravakayana yet disavow themselves from it. Even thornier, and I'm not sure it would be encyclopedic. Or worse, it could become an endless catalog of "so-and-so was a disciple of thus-and-such" and "this group of disciples has this many vows and that group has that many"; "these disciples fast after noon and that one doesn't"...Some article someday could cover the dharma teacher-student relationship. Not to be confused with the body of knowledge about what sravaka means. -munge 08:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey munge - thanks for the excellent feedback.  While I still have some secondary reservations (for instance, that an article based primarily on the Pali texts and using primarily Pali words and phrases is entitled with a Sanskrit word), your overall point is persuasive enough for me to put off indefinitely making the aforementioned partial-move of content from here to "Disciple (Buddhism)".  I'll post here & on your talk page if at some time in the future I'd like to re-open this issue.  Thanks again, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 13:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  need separate "Disciple (Buddhism)" article?? 

message: The subject of this article is a Sanskrit term. But many of the the terms in the body of the article are in Pali, including references to the article's subject.
I think the article  should be marked with a "Sanskrit" language tag, and that at least references to the article subject should be converted to the Sanskrit form (I would prefer that all of the Pali terms be converted to Sanskrit, with a parenthetical Pali version, but that preference is just because I know the Sanskrit terms better).
I plan to return here in due course, and convert all uses of "sāvaka" to "Śrāvaka". 
I strongly disapprove of partisan ethnic or sectarian editing, in any subject; I am only asking that the article be internally consistent. An alternative would be to change the article's subject to be the Pali term, but that is something I don't know how to do, without creating trouble for inbound links.  And there would still be a need to Palify the Sanskrit terms that remain in the article body. MrDemeanour (talk) 11:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanskrit/Pali