Talk:Nikola Tesla/Archive 1

message: Why do we have so much detail on Wardenclyffe Tower here when the article on the tower says no one knows how it was supposed to work? From PBS story on Tesla it appears that he was trying to transmit power through the ground not the air. But they claim no one knows as does the Wardenclyffe article. Rmhermen 15:52, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Wardenclyffe Tower

message: It'd really be nice to have a section that lists just his inventions.  It'd make this article a lot more useful. :-) —Frecklefoot 14:54, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There's page on Tesla patents, perhaps it could be linked from here more visibly. Nikola 16:51, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Inventions

message: :The "Cosmic waves" section is crazily repetitive. It is actually several edits stuck together. If someone can sort out the facts and fix it. I am not too sure what to discard. Delta G 22:51, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a whack at it and am OK with the result except maybe the accuracy of this portion: He recorded measurements of repetitive signals conducted via his transmitter...  Maybe someone can verify/clarify this? RatOmeter 07:30, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Cosmic Waves

message: The category exists (categories being the MediaWiki 1.3 replacement for article boxes). All the Tesla series articles are in it now, except of course this one, because it's locked ... - David Gerard 23:48, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would this particular category replace this particular box? Nikola 07:18, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Because article boxes are complete eyesores in general. IMO. If you think they're a particularly useful idea, I suppose they could be put back :-) The category is still useful - David Gerard 08:28, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think they should be back. Nikola 23:51, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Nikola Tesla

message: Anybody care to comment on his birthdate. 9th and 10th both seem to feature with google.
Nikola Tesla wurde exakt um Mitternacht zwischen dem 9. und 10. Juli 1856 geboren. He was born exactly at midnight:
http://www.dpg-fachgremien.de/p/informationen-dateien/plasmaphysiker/tesla.html
: I think that this was talked about before ... 
: Being born on midnight would make it the 10th (@ 00:00 military time), IMO ... there is a birth certificate @ the museum (there's a link somewhere; may need translating)
: JDR 11:53, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  9th/10th for birthdate? 

message: 66.68.252.119 wrote: Smiljan, Croatia is no where near serbia and Tesla websites and encyclopedia articles consider him as a Croat not a Serb and changed "Serbian" to "Croat".
This first issue stems from a misunderstanding that the adjective "Serbian" refers to "Serbia", where in fact it refers to "Serbs". I don't know if we'll ever be able to rectify this without using the unusual adjective "Serb". The second issue is patent nonsense. --Joy [shallot] 01:27, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave it to say that he was a Serb of Croatian origion, he was batized in the serbian orthodox church. Klonimus 05:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ethnicity/nationality mention 

message: I don't think that the mention of the Life magazine list deserves to be in the lead section. It's particularly ironic that Edison is number 1 and Tesla number 57 in the same list... but judging by the rest of the list, that may not have been done intentionally, but merely due to U.S.-centricity. --Joy [shallot] 17:40, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life magazine 

message: I would advise someone to check 137.132.3.11's edits as s/he only knows how to vandalise. Do not want to revert any later edits (unsigned comment by User:SqueakBox
:the only edit by him that i could see on the first page of history seemed to be a legitimate category addition some other recent edits by others im not so sure about though. Plugwash 17:26, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandal

message: Other than the new Wizard, the Life and Times of Nikola Tesla  book, does anyone have a link to the fact that this was a Double exposure? Sources usually denote that this was a single exposure (Seifer was the first I know to say that it was a double). Any links? Books? etc? If not, then statement that the photo was a double exposure should be qualified in the article. (PS., Tesla could ingulf himself in plasma ... there are several accounts of him doing this (in america and europe), so this may be an instance that he was not afraid of the amps killing him (the plasma in the photo being just EHV and extremely low amperage)) 9 Jun 2005 by anon user 204.56.7.1
::The larger parasitic capacitance and higher voltage of large Tesla Coils combine to create relatively large peak discharge currents (tens or even hundreds of amperes) particularly in the path to ground). You can see the difference by comparing the brilliance of the arc like streamers that reach the resonator at the right versus those merely dissipating in the air. No sane human (Tesla included) would risk being in that position while the system was running, since a single accidental streamer "hit" could have been lethal. Tesla may have been eccentric, but he wasn't crazy... Bert 12:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Found orignial citation.  Tesla credited the photo as a double in his notes.  Cited now on the photo's page. Rick Boatright 16:07, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double exposure publicity photo of Tesla 

message: This page is growing excessively (I've just cut it down somewhat) due to people adding stuff thats already on the sub pages. It doesn't all need to be here and it shouldn't be. Also, every semi-mythological tesla factoid (tungaska...) does *not* deserve a place.
: This page is needs to be long. The stuff on the sub pages need a mention. It all needs to be here and should be. Also, every semi-mythological tesla factoid (ex, tungaska...) does deserve a place (and explained if necessary; but that would be better on the specific sub page).
:: (William M. Connolley 09:38, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page bloat 

message: Its clear we have agreement that *this* should be the biog page. The biog can then be a redirect here. Some of the excess stuff here can probably then be cut/moved elsewhere to keep this page at a managable size. I will do this tonight I think unless someone (other than 204, of course) objects. William M. Connolley 09:10, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, tis done. I merged in the biog and removed vast amounts of duplication. I also cut some stuff (but not too much) and now its nearly down to a sensible length. William M. Connolley 20:32, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge/Fork 

message: I truncated this sentence:
:Some believe that Tesla never fully developed the Unified Field Theory, nor that any physicist in the years since it was first postulated.  
at the comma, because the rest of it doesn't make sense. If we can decide what the second clause means, I'll fix it and add it back to the article. --Heron 11:40, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete sentence 

message: Could we include his awards, but not his memberships? I ask this because some of them are simply societies any scientist can join with just dues. Also, any famous scientist is named as a fellow to multiple societies, but it is not considered worthy of mention for other scientists. Yet, of Tesla's notable awards none are listed in the award section, and only one is mentioned at all; the Edison medal.
:I would prefer we include the socieities. Membership in prestegious scientific societies is a sign being active in your scientific area. Most articles about scientists ought to include memberships and awards. Klonimus 9 July 2005 05:50 (UTC)
: I don't think the rest of the article leads any doubt about his activity. :) I do dispute the prestige of some of these societes: the New York Academy of Science, The National Electric Light Association, and the french SEE are all  trade or professional organizations, which almost anyone can join with payment of dues; sort of like a realtor belong to the National Association of Realtors, or an electrical engineer being in IEEE, or a physicist being in the APS. I'm in four societies like these myself, for networking, reduced fees at conferences, free journal subscriptions, etc.  Many scientists don't even put these organizations on CV's, unless they are fellows, or in leadership positions in these orgnaizations. On the other hand, the American Philosophical Society is one of the most selective invitation-only societies in the world -- more selective and prestigious then being an IEEE or AAAS fellow even --  and so its truely an honor. I don' t know that much about the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts, but I do know that like the american National Academy of Sciences it is invitation only, and unlike the US version is also a collection of research institutes, like the Polish Academy of Sciences for example. So I would add the latter two to the first paragraph under "Membership in Scientific Societies", prehaps " He was also a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a member of the American Philosphical Society, and the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts", and maybe something to emphasis the prestigous of these memberships, and then axe the rest of them because they are not notable parts of his career. Since there is some discussion here, I'm not going to edit yet Salsb 9 July 2005 17:39 (UTC)
::Being an IEEE fellow is a quite an honor in the world of electrical engineering, less than 0.1% of IEEE members are fellows. So that definately deserves mention. As is I think just mentioning the fellowships, and menberships in inivitation only socieities would be enough. 24.60.163.16 9 July 2005 18:44 (UTC)
::I agree, the fellowships should be mentioned. I merely pointing out that the American Philosophical Society is more selective than being an IEEE fellow. Incidently, this isn't relevant, but to be precise, the restriction is that no more than 0.1% of IEEE members can be made fellows in a single year; this year 268. The total number of IEEE fellows is more like ~5000. IEEE fellowship program Salsb 9 July 2005 19:12 (UTC)
::: I share your sense of propriety here, salsb.  (peeking in b/c of the renewed discussion at Wikibooks :) +sj + 06:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  awards vs societies 

message: The article should mention that Tesla's expertise was not limited to electricity.  While not a pioneer in the field, he knew a great deal about fluid dynamics, and had several patents based on the mechanical properties of fluids.  His knowledge of fluid mechanics proved essential when he famously built the hydroelectric turbines at Niagra Falls. I think some of his knowledge of fluids also assisted his understanding of electrical currents.  It is important not to neglect this subject, since it contributed to his success. --D. Estenson II 19:53, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
: Yes his design of a bladeless turbine (using the Prandtl effect) shows evidence of an excellent understanding of fluid mechanismisms. Klonimus 04:12, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fluid mechanics 

message: There was some text introducted by an anon on the generation of magnetic fields, which I removed. I did keep the conversion between Tesla and Gauss and corrected the size of the earth's magnetic field in Tesla {~50microT, not ~1microT}, although I am not sure this belongs here. Salsb 16:06, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tesla Unit 

message: "Tesla was born around midnight with lightning striking all around during a summer storm"? Is this certain? Do we have a reference? Kel-nage 15:37, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Certian? yes. Reference? yes. It's in his Autobiography. his birth certificate is around here in a link (see talk archive). JDR 00:44, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, thanks. Just sounded a bit strange to me... Kel-nage 15:33, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth? 

message: The patent office clasiifies inventions by Class/Subclass. The 1st 3 digits are the class. The second digits after the backslash is the subclass. This is from thier site: 
: patents are classified (organized) in the U.S. by a system using a 3 digit class and a 3 digit subclass to describe every similar grouping of patent art. A single invention may be described by multiple classification codes. Classification def @ USPTO
Heron, a primary class of patent US685012 is 178/43 (it is bolded), but other equally applicable classes include 505/825; 
To look up the up what the classes mean, go to the classification search. 
: 505 SUPERCONDUCTOR TECHNOLOGY: APPARATUS, MATERIAL, PROCESS (This is the generic class for subject matter involving (a) superconductor technology above 30 K and (b) Art collections involving superconductor technology. Apparatus, devices, materials, and processes involving such technology are included herein. (1) Note. Precursors of high temperature (Tcgreater than 30 K) superconducting material under the class definition or process of producing the same are placed in this class if proportionally constituted to provide the desired superconducting product upon decomposition, heating, deoxygenation, or oxidation. The following class(es)/subclass(es) in References to Other Classes, below, specifically provide for subject matter including superconductors functioning at temperatures of 30K and below. ) / 825 APPARATUS, PER SE, DEVICE, PER SE, OR PROCESS OF MAKING OR OPERATING SAME (Art collection involving, (a) apparatus, per se, or (b) low temperature (Tc at or below 30k) superconductor device, per se, or (c) a process of making or of operating either (a) or (b) or the combination thereof.)
Sincerely, JDR 14:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for all that. It broadly agrees with the edit I made. Is there anything you would like me to change? --Heron 18:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Patent class and subclass

message: There used to be a Wikibook at b:Biography of Nikola Tesla, which got VFD'd. This decision has now been reversed, and it's back. A couple of things:
# Can someone add the appropriate template or div or whatever to indicate it's back?
# If you find yourself needing to trim content from this Wikipedia page, feel free to move it to the Wikibook instead. We could use some more content.
Thankyou. - Aya 42 T C 01:46, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to Reddi for adding the div. Is there not a template for this? - Aya 42 T C 03:25, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikibooks 

message: Tesla was noted for his obsession with pigeons in his later years. His obsession with pigeons can be lumped together with his other eccentricities. Simfish 01:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pigeons 

message: Do you know if Tesla ever worked on a Time machine?
I read somewhere once he was working on such a thing and made something disapear..
Tesla said it was possible to travel in time
Is this true????
Ivo 
:I can only say that I don't know. I was interested in his scientific/technological work (currents, ttransformers, motors, transmission of energy, radio, loudspeakers, ...) and not so much about various "extras". I also don't know whether Tesla said time travel was possible but from todays relativistic and string theory we can assume that it might not be impossible, just impossibly hard. On top of that we still have no clue "when" would that take us - i.e. may not be out future or past at all and even the "space" may be entirely different... --Aleksandar Šušnjar 03:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ) Tesla has so many inventions that dispensing some of them around isn't really a problem. Serbs, too. Don't think that Nikola was the only Serbian inventor. Just add Mihailo Pupin, for example. Put those two together and you've got electricity, telecommunication, long-distance telephone, remote control, logical circuits, etc. Essentially those two alone make the World (as we know it today) spin. As for the stuff of "maglite" level, Serbs got many of these things, too e.g. Šljivovica, celebrated around the world, including Croatia. If zou're interested in more have a look at the List of Serbs. Nothing really to be sad about. Only proud. --Aleksandar Šušnjar 04:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Macihine , question for Aleks 

message: *Nikola Tesla is Serb. 
*Rudjer Josip Boscovich is Croat.
* Ivo Andric is Croat.
-----Other views on origin over this have no merit...just propaganda from both sides..
The above people lived in a time when that sort of thing wasnt important nor should it be today. Life was much better when they were all called Yugoslav.
EVERGREEN
WE ALL NEED SOME RAKIJA TO COOL DOWN
Let's end the edit wars here and now!  I'm tired of everyone arguing about this point and constantly changing and reverting edits.  Let's settle the issue once and for all and be done with it.  This childish bickering is completely unacceptable and very unprofessional! Erzahler 17:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikimania Serbomania 

message: ;Answers to archive questions.
Simfish, good idea. Tesla, in his later years, was obsessed with pigeons ... this should be mentioned (and his other obsessive compulsive fixations). 
Anon, I have not heard that Tesla became specifically fascinated with T'ai Chi. I do know that he became interested in Vedic philosophy (which has many similarities with quantum theory today). He was well read and, later in life, did research various worldviews in developing his inventions. I'll look into it. JDR (PS., NT later became concerned with germs and his health, so this may fit in with that.)
*I was listening to CBC radio today and they saifd that tesla had been in love with a pigeon outside his window and that when it dies he was inconsoloble. It also said that he produced nothing significant after this tragic loss. Though CBC mentioned it in passing and didn't site a referance I think it should be looked into aswell.--Matt D 00:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pigeons and Tai Chi Ch'üan

message: *Oppose. The box of Tesla related articles should go at the bottom, in the see also section. Furthermore, the see also section needs to be dramatically trimmed. Perhaps some categorization is in order? Snowspinner 17:06, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)
**nope about that box! it is top box or whatever it is called! it is placed in the top of the article. see also is never organized, if we have that  much see also's than that is becuase we need to. This was just because of Armstrong.Avala★Talk 18:08, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The box is completely gone for some time now; so, this is resolved. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: box of Tesla related articles 

message: * Object - overwheling TOC. Also fails to follow manual of style re: picture placement. →Raul654 19:43, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)
**Objections have been fixed now, although (as the user below says) the see-also section is still too large. →Raul654 08:53, Jul 10, 2004 (UTC)
: The TOC is now quite small. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See also is now completely gone???? I believe it would be a problem for nomination, so it should be returned in some form. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: TOC

message: *Object. 1. We need information on certain images, namely: Image:Stesla.jpg, Image:Tesla2.jpg, Image:Serbia100Dinara.jpg, Image:Colorado GeoMag Map.png. 2. Some changes need to be made to the sectional divisions. The "Middle Years" section is rather extensive. Furthermore, the page misuses "quote"—I believe the appropriate word in this context is "quotation." Also, is "Namings" really an appropriate word in this context, or, for that matter, in any context? 3. The navigation box should replace Tesla's image atop the page, and the image sent elsewhere. Navigation boxes belong at the top—they look rather unfortunate in other places. 4. Why is it necessary to indicate in paranthetical format that the Institution of Electrical Engineers is a British body? Similar indications are not made for other bodies. Just the title would suffice. -- Emsworth 02:48, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)
: I have resolved problems with most images, however a few still remain, see below. Sectional division is different now, so this probably doesn't apply. Navigation box is gone. IEE no longer marked as British. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about this one. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read the article and completely agree.  It is difficult to read because it is overwikified.  Tesla greatly contributed to mankind and some of his ideas may yet be developed more.  Can't we write what is know of this historical figure without every other word being a link?  It gives a guy double vision when common words like "engineer" are linked. Terryeo 10:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Overwikified? So is Einstein's article overwikified too? Or mabey Newton's? Can you give an example of how every other word is being a link? I did see copper was a wlnk ... but most are relevant and need a link. Mabey some of the dates can be unwlnked (but that gives an idea of the timeframe of what he was doing; which was usually much earlier than the "norm" of when such activity was established) .... and in most biographies, engineer (and other applicable fields) are wlnked. Sincerely, J. D. Redding 16:42, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Images and Overwikification

message: * Object. 1) Some sections and subsections are only one paragraph long; these should be merged into longer sections. 2) The quotes section should be removed; the WikiQuote entry suffices. 3) I suspect the "External links" section is too long: Wikipedia is not a link repository and I suspect that many (e.g. the H2G2 entry) are not necessary. — Matt 14:57, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are no more paragraph-long sections. Quotes section removed. External links now shorter. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: sections and subsections 

message: The second try:
====Structural things====
*Object. Structural things: Why is there a separate section on his education, wouldn't this be better merged into the relevant parts of his life? The ===h3=== heading in the honors section are over doing it considering the amount of text. External links should probably f ollow after references. Text things: The lead seems quite underdeveloped. --nixie 06:59, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the first objection: an overview of education is good, while of course it should also be stated in biography. I agree with the second objection. Section order should be easy to change as per manual of style (if there exists a guideline for this). Not sure about the lead. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

text: BrochureWardenclyffe now has copyright info, while we might perhaps remove the other image. I have seen it once on the net, on a Flickr-like site (or perhaps Flickr itself?), IIRC it is a photo by an amateur photographer, and I am confident that I could get the permission if someone could find it again, as it is quite nice. But until then, we could remove it, or perhaps replace it with :Image:Tesla statue at Niagara Falls.jpg, which has a free licence? Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  A copy of it is @ http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/0e/Tesla.jpg .... get the permission if you can ... I asked the original uploader about it too. JDR 20:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

text:  No, this seems to be copied from Wikipedia. Nikola 10:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes ... it is a copy ... I was citing it as where it can be found IF a license can be obtained. J. D. Redding 16:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Anon votes don't count, I think. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Second try

message: *Object. Structural things: Why is there a separate section on his education, wouldn't this be better merged into the relevant parts of his life? The ===h3=== heading in the honors section are over doing it considering the amount of text. External links should probably f ollow after references. Text things: The lead seems quite underdeveloped. --nixie 06:59, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the first objection: an overview of education is good, while of course it should also be stated in biography. I agree with the second objection. Section order should be easy to change as per manual of style (if there exists a guideline for this). Not sure about the lead. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Structural things

message: *Object.  The images :Image:BrochureWardenclyffe .PNG and :Image:Tesla.jpg do not have copyright information. --Carnildo 07:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: BrochureWardenclyffe now has copyright info, while we might perhaps remove the other image. I have seen it once on the net, on a Flickr-like site (or perhaps Flickr itself?), IIRC it is a photo by an amateur photographer, and I am confident that I could get the permission if someone could find it again, as it is quite nice. But until then, we could remove it, or perhaps replace it with :Image:Tesla statue at Niagara Falls.jpg, which has a free licence? Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  A copy of it is @ http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/0e/Tesla.jpg .... get the permission if you can ... I asked the original uploader about it too. JDR 20:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

text:  No, this seems to be copied from Wikipedia. Nikola 10:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes ... it is a copy ... I was citing it as where it can be found IF a license can be obtained. J. D. Redding 16:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Anon votes don't count, I think. Nikola 14:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: images

message: Nikola Tesla was born in Smiljan. Back then it was a Military Frontier ruled by Austrian Empire and present day it is Croatia. He himself said of being proud of being Serbian and of his "Croatian homeland".
Few things to note:
* Nikola Tesla was not a citizen of Croatia simply because Croatia was just a region at the time. However, he was born in what is presently Croatia. From that perspective it would be more appropriate to say that he was Austrian. He is no more Croatian than, for example Constantine Drageses is Turkish although he was born in what is present-day Istanbul, Turkey. As to this I think we should follow a good practice found elsewhere in Wikipedia - use political geography of the time. "Present day" comments are disconnected with time and may change, like we all witnessed. What already happened does not.
* By nationality he was Serbian, as he himself said.
* He, however, was most likely of Yugoslav aspirations and only present political conditions make this an awkward situation.
* Whatever nationality one considers him, he gained his elementary related education in Austria Politechnic, in Graz, Austria. For scientists it may sometimes be more imporant to mention the school than anything else. However, at this school he was also discouraged to try what he later proved to be some of the greatest innovations of man kind.
* Tesla gained significant experience working in Austrian Empire (Maribor, present day Slovenia), Hungary and France.
* The country that made it possible for him to create his innovations is United States of America.
* Some say that he has some Romanian heritage as well.
Inventors can be characterized:
* as to how they stated themselves (Serbian and American for Tesla)
* by their national/ethnic origin (Serbian)
* by their citizenship (Austrian, American and Yugoslav, although details would need to be verified)
* as of those countries that positively influenced their work, and their nationality (Serbian, Austrian, Hungarian, Slovenian, French and  American)
* by where they made their inventions (Tesla got ideas in Austria but implemented them in the United States of America)
* by the country they called 'home' at the time (Yugoslavia)
As for the regions and their names it is possible that we go and list all possible scales, the city, the municipalities, districts and other divisions over the history since he was born but I don't think this is necessary. All the facts above are easily verifiable.
--Aleksandar Šušnjar 19:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why all these problems? 

message: A later NT image. 
right|thumb|N.Tesla
J. D. Redding 03:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Is it just me or does this article seem overly wikified? Dark Nexus 22:27, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikification

message: ----
--69.199.95.31 23:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nikola Tesla was YUGOSLAVIAN! 

message: Based on this PBS article: http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_wendwar.html, there was no report to the media of Tesla's death ray and the article implies that he didn't 'market' his invention to various nations until that time, so the date should be changed from the 20's to the 30's. Of course, there might have been rumors swirling around an earlier prototype, in which case this should read 'it was rumored that' rather than 'reportedly'. 
Also interesting to add from the article: his belief that his 'death ray' weapon would 'end all wars'
:Richard Jordan Gatling said the same thing thing about his invention... I suspect Tesla figured the invention of such a weapon would make war too horrific to wage. For that matter, the same was said of nuclear weapons at one point. -Fuzzy 21:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of 'Death Ray' reporting 

message: I replaced "Tesla's fame rivaled that of any other inventor or scientist" for "Tesla's fame exceeded that of any other inventor or scientist." It is surely false that Tesla was more famous among inventors than Edison or more famous than Einstein among scientists.
:I agree, but I think you misread or rather misinterpreted the sentence. I'm fairly certain it meant to say that at ONE point, Tesla's fame exceeded all others, but that he later died forgotten. It did not state that he was the most famous of all. 
Also, just out of curiousity. How is stating the following: "After his demonstration of wireless communication in 1893 and after being the victor in the "War of Currents", he was widely respected as America's greatest electrical engineer. " puffing up Tesla into a superhero? These are more facts than praise. 
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Who owns Tesla's patents today? I think I read somewhere that his wife sold his patents to GE, his enemy, to make ends meet. Or this could be a different inventor I'm thinking about. I'm not sure.
First of all, Edison's only great invention was the light bulb, Tesla invented the method by which we have electricity in out homes today. --serbiana - talk 23:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever you heard was wrong, since Tesla was a bachelor his entire life. C-c-c-c 01:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tesla's fame 

message: I am a student and am fascinated with one of the great geniuses of our time - Nikolas Tesla.  I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me where I could read correspondence between Tesla and Katherine Johnson. They were friends and I would like to know more about their relationship and the letters they wrote to one another.  Many thanks!  studentpam2000 at msmath@prodigy.net
:I somehow don't think this will help you much, but if there are any letters surving at least some of them would be in the Museum of Nikola Tesla. Some correspondence is mentioned in their archives - visit the archive of the Museum of Nikola Tesla. Nothing on-line, unfortunately.
:--Aleksandar Šušnjar 19:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Finding information on correspondence between Tesla and Katherine Johnson 

message: Tesla was born "on the stroke of midnight" between July 9 and 10 1856. This is definetely something that needs to be put in the article but which of the two dates should be taken as official?
Well, which time zone are we talking about? Usually the one used at location of birth. In 1856 there was no such a thing as Daylight Savings Time or summer time. But now there is. During summer time people's clocks show the time as one hour ahead of what would have been usual, "winter" time.
What does this mean? Well, if Austrian Empire observed those rules in 1856, then the "stroke of midnight" would reallu have been 01:00 (am) of July 10. You can wrap this backward as well - if one would now like to celebrate exact "birthday instants" of Nikola Tesla they would have to do it at 01:00 (am) on July 10.
We can take this purely mathematically as well. Let's suppose that he was born exactly at midnight (without any error whatsoever). By that fact alone we can conclude that Tesla lived on this world for no time at all in July 9th, 1856 but did the entire July 10th. If we define "birthday" as the first day in which the person lived after birth for more than 0 time (not at all) then we still get July 10th as Tesla's birthday.
Now let's introduce some small, at the time immesurable, error. If it was slightly on the July 10th side then we're still fine with July 10th. If it was on the July 9th side then we still have slight dilemma - whether to use the summer time "excuse" (covers up to 1 hour error - just fine) or not (then we still may have a dilemma) ...
--Aleksandar Šušnjar 18:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Found this in the day article ... "Present common convention is for the civil day to begin at midnight, that is 00:00, and last a full twenty-four hours until the next 00:00 (also known as 24:00, but this is not as widely used)." J. D. Redding 06:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 9/10 issue, DST and time zones (just for fun) 

message: This section was removed from the article because it was claimed as "fairy stories." Though it may be true that some of these inventions are a little whacky and may make the article appear to have pseudo-scientific tendencies, how does that lead to their complete exclusion from the article or a sub-article? They are as crucial a point in Tesla's biographical information as Isaac Newton's alchemy and religious fanatacism is in his biographies. 72.144.147.32 23:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Newtons alchemy is (I assume) properly documented and placed in context; there is no attempt made to make it seems like it might really work. William M. Connolley 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tesla's Claimed Inventions

message: As unfair and unfortunate as it is/was, Tesla encapselates the mad scientist better than most people the term refers to. Sadly, if he hadn't been viewed that way, and had possessed better marketing and social skills, we would likely have a far more futuristic, modern world than we have today, technologically speaking. In any case, he was viewed that way, and his life was arather tragic example of how unmeritocratic our society is, much to its own detriment. Sam Spade 12:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree to an extent. Especially late in his life he became someone that reporters would go to whenever they wanted a silly "Noted Scientist Says [something outlandish]" story. He was broke and probably didn't mind the publicity. However, just calling Tesla a mad scientist in the article without some kind of citation or source gives the article an unprofessional feel, IMO. KarlBunker 15:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree w the anon. Sam Spade 21:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh dear, its the magic weapons time again. And what does Many of Tesla's original researches and innovations are being rediscovered and reanalyzed today. mean? William M. Connolley 21:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mad scientist 

message: I have reverted continual controversial removal of "gush" and other sentences (unexplained deletions) by some editors. Regardless of attempted compromise with the editors, showing and explaining how the prude "gush" associated with saying Tesla was one of the most practically-accomplished scientists in the timeframe of late 19th to early 20th century is paralleled much more forcefully on numerous other articles like Carl Gauss, Michael Faraday, Isaac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, and an innumerable other amount of "pioneers", I simply got the response of "Tesla does not compare to them" - which is irrelevant to the case at matter, for the main point seems to be "let their accomplishments speak for themselves and do not innumerate their success". This main point is not followed on wikipedia, and thus should fairly not be followed on this article. If the vast majority of articles followed this trend, the editors edits would be acceptable. 72.144.114.155 04:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While "Tesla does not compare to them" is a weak justification (I would say he does in some ways, but that's beside the point), that doesn't mean "gush" isn't bad.  And just because gush exists in other articles doesn't mean that should excuse it in this one; it should also be eliminated from the others, but one thing at a time.  Maybe just start by removing the most egregious stuff, until we reach an equilibrium of what stays and what doesn't.--ragesoss 05:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed so. However, the comment on this article is hardly the most "egregious", and can be supported, much like some of the claims on the articles. I see no need to begin an entire effort to remove all "gush" unless it is totally uncalled for. Thanks for the response by the way. 72.144.114.155 05:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Explanation of Reverts

message: Dr. Nikola Tesla described the propagation of some of the electric waves from his "Tesla Coils" as being "many" times the speed of light.  [A Tesla Coil built as described by Tesla generates both transverse waves and longitudinal waves.] Lakinekaki
:: The Corum give a very resonable explination of this. Read thier papers ... if you are really interested i could find the exact reference. it basically has to do with cavity resonation of the eart-ionosphere .... but look in the links /ref ... of do a search for some of thier papers.  J. D. Redding 02:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As to the whole transverse and longitudinal ... one is hertzian ... one is maxwellian ... transverse are decent for radio ... but not power ... longitudinal waves in plasma are good for power transmission. J. D. Redding 02:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Where should this go?

message: Tesla was a Serb! His father was an Orthodox priest, his mother a daughter of an orthodox priest, and he himself said that he is a Serb and not only that but also said that his greatest satisfaction is the fact that all his accomplishments were a work of an Serb. Croatia didn't exist since the 11th century and at the time it was Austro-Hungary. In World War II 500 Serbs from his village Smiljani were killed by the Croats, while in the latest war his statue in Gospic was blown up by Croats and his museum destroyed. 
Tesla is definately a serbian-american inventor and not a croatian-american because he was a serb.  Also because the croatians destroyed all evidence that serbs lived in the area tesla grew up in, in the 1990s.  I think its shameful that wikipedia is calling him a croatian-american inventor when even the house he grew up in, was destroyed in the 1990s.  Gospic was especialy hard hit in the slaughter called "operation storm".  Wikipedia should be ashamed of itself!!!!! - Lazar
Don't listen to this lies, his house wasn't destoryed in operation storm which was legimited operation blessed by US goverment in which there was absolutly no destroying or killing civilians. His house is being renovated and will be a part of soon to be built Tesla theme park. : - Tomy108
Tesla was Croat, because he was born in Croatia. So he is croatian inventor, not serbian. He once said that he was proud of his serbian nationality and croatian citizenship. And Lazar stop spreading lies. - EIM
About Tesla croatian homeland in article of newspaper "Jutarnji list" - his relative lives today in Zagreb, Croatia. Damirux 13:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: serbian-american croatian-american REDUX

message: The article mentions that only one photograph of Tesla was ever taken, and that the picture was lost.  How then is there a picture of Tesla on the page?
:No, it says to pose, which mean to dress up and all for a great picture.Reply to David Latapie 17:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tesla photographs 

message: I think that a lot of people coming here will be looking for the SI unit. Is there any good way to make it more prominent? I considered adding it to the TOC, but adding everything under "Recognition and honors" would make the TOC really long, and I could hardly make only some of them headers. Maybe there just isn't a solution better than the disambiguation page now in use... Ealex292 22:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SI Unit 

message: Hmm, my other post disappeared. Sorry If it ends up being a double post.
I wandered in here and read a great article on Nikola Tesla. I'm left with a question: Did the FBI ever release the rest of Tesla's papers or are they still considered Top Secret??
Tanru 12:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tesla Files/F.B.I. 

message: Nikola Tesla is a serbian inventor and please corect that croatin because hi is not ustasa.
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Ustasa was a Croat minority hahaha RELAX MATE...
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Tesla is Serbian and is listed as that on wikipedia. Fair enough, no problem. We should all agree and those who do not must be stupid. 
ON THE OTHER HAND
Why do Serbs keep changing origin of Croats Andric and Boscovich into Serbian???
Andric and Boscovich have no link to Serbia and have no Serbian blood or origin.
All Serbs have to agree that if Croats have left Tesla as Serb ...Serbs have to leave Andric and Boscovich as Croats. 
Ciao Polska
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Wrong. Ruđer Bošković's mother was Serb. Andrić lived in Belgrade for most of his life, all his books are writen in Štokavian dialect, ekavian variant - mostly used in Serbs in Serbia. so, Anrić lived in Serbia, spoken Serbian - he was a Serb.
      Vlado
:Now some historan, Vlado, invented another myth about Ruđer Bošković. One myth that was unknown, even on Wikipedia: "Ruđer Bošković's mother was Serb". Clown. Jakiša Tomić 13:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tesla 

message: OK, now that I have your attention, I'd like for everyone who's contributing to this article to watch this 40-minute documentary about his life. I hope you like it as much as I did:
Nikola Tesla - The Genius Who Lit the World
:Note that documentries often are pretty dubious sources to draw information from! Its certainly true that tesla had a better grasp of the mathematics of electricity (in particular he saw the great advantages of polyphase AC over either DC or single phase AC) than edison did but whether that makes him better is a different matter.
Well, we use Tesla's polyphase AC to light the world today, and not Edison's DC... I think I can guess who's better. --serbiana - talk 00:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TESLA WAS BETTER THAN EDISON

message: Aleksandar proved his point, Tesla was a Physicist. --serbiana - talk 03:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you think we need to know the name of Teslas pet cat? William M. Connolley 22:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't. I don't think anyone would care if you just removed that part. 68.215.52.35 16:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh good. Pity you kept re-inserting it then. Still there is so much else in there that is junk, wurble and gilding the lily William M. Connolley 16:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: How about you delete it without vandalizing the rest of the article then? I wouldn't revert if it was done properly and orderly. 72.144.60.85 18:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proved his point, Tesla was a Physicist