Talk:Gary Lineker

message: I like the original entry:
:Greatest striker in front of goal, never been booked. Mmm, isn't it! Not 'alf
:Aye, and had a big nose. Des Lynam's replacement on the BBC's Match of the Day program. Also an unfunny panelist on They Think Its All Over.
--The Cunctator
One less than Moore's record in what? Caps or goals?
Also, I think the claim that he has never been booked needs further investigation. Players tend to say things like that, though it's not unusual for a striker to go uncautioned for a long time, everyone will earn a card eventually :)
The record of never having been booked is well known. AFAIK he was actually booked once but succesfully appealled against it. The record part refers to goals.GordyB 13:31, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: (No subject)

message: He was actually replaced by Alan Smith, not Alan Shearer, in his final appearance for England.  Alan Shearer has never played for Arsenal.
Having being a year ahead of Gary Lineker at the City of Leicester Boys School, what evidence is there for the part about him being a medical student? 
In 1976, at the time he would have been at Kings, he would have been 15, and wouldn't have taken his O or A levels.  We'd have heard about that at school!
GGA6 (talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  He got 4 O levels BBC.  Hakluyt bean (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error 

message: At the moment he's currentley living with his wife and two sons? Where are the other two? Petsco 12:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  eh? 

message: Can somebody check the Everton stats. I'm fairly sure he didn't play 138 games in two seasons and I know for a fact he scored more than 25 goals. 82.42.208.252 18:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This may be over 5 years since those edits but to all statisticians Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton, clearly stat's (on this page atleast) do not show the Screen Sport Super Cup competition, which was a substitue for those clubs banned from European competitions. Although nowadays very meaningless, just like the latter Full Members Cup etc, but, nonetheless, part of the campaign that season. Babydoll9799 (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Everton Stats 

message: Unfortunately it has to be corrected that Gary Lineker speaks Japanese. He might be able to speak a few words, but he is definitely not fluent.
It would be frankly amazing if he had in just two years achieved a level of proficiency in Japanese that could sensibly be called "fluent".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.85.192.125 (talk) 08:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese 

message: Anyone think it's worth mentioning his appearance on the Paedogeddon special of Brasseye in 2001?
*Not really - if that should be mentioned anywhere, it's in the article or section which describes that programme/episode.  I don't think it's really necessary to mention every single trivial little tv appearance here (imdb currently lists 53 appearances for Lineker has himself).  Guinness (talk) 14:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brasseye 

message: The games listed are not Lineker's. They appear to be Bobby Charlton's, though why it counts 48 when he scored 49 is a bit confusing
Paul Derbyshire
:Either weird vandalism or a copy-and-paste where they forgot to actually edit. I've removed it. --Jameboy 00:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International career 

message: First impression of looking at this article is how stupid the picture looks, could someone find an actual picture of lineker or just not have one at all. Simplyirresistiblepalmer (talk) 19:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Is it 1960 or 1970? the opening paragraph says 1960, the infobar at the side says 1970.
It's not 1970, because he wasn't 16 in the 1986 world cup. 81.98.240.135 (talk) 10:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: What is his DOB?

message: How about adding the name of the top scorer? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 06:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "England's all-time second highest scorer" 

message: The Sporting Positions infobox is missing (previous England Captains link to Lineker from Bryan Robson for instance.) - 84.92.169.252 (talk) 20:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  missing info box 

message: The latest attempt to insert the "poo on the pitch" incident included a RS: a blog at The Guardian. I don't think wording such as "He shit himself" [shouldn't that be "shat"?] is encyclopedic, and I don't think it should be given undue weight, but the sources are there and clearly the topic is coming up - it's getting inserted again and again. So I propose a single sentence be added using the wording "lost control of his bowels because of illness". Putting it here first so consensus can be reached either way. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think a single sentence about it isn't a big deal and Lineker has joked about it so it's not like it would violate any BLP issues.  But here's what I don't understand--a couple months ago ESPN the magazine wrote an article about a triathlete named Julie Moss who's only claim to fame is that she collapsed near the end of a triathalon she was leading and shit herself a bunch of times.  This was in 1982 and nationally televised in the US.  People were vandalizing the page so I added a sourced statement that she collapsed and defecated herself.  The sourced info was repeatedly removed as "not encyclopedic."  So, if someone like her who's pretty much only known for shitting herself can't have that included in the article, I'd guess the Wikipedia police wouldn't approve of it being in Lineker's article either since he's known for a bunch of other things.  76.99.122.143 (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lineker Sharts His Pants Playing For England

message: Have randomly discovered that Gary is second in the list of Top Ten chains for the game Wikipedia:Get_to_Philosophy
IdleEdit (talk) 10:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Get to Philosophy" Game

message: See earlier note on Everton stats, i've corrected that Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton not 38 due to goals scored in the Screen Sport Super Cup (for teams that did not play in Europe following the European ban in 1985). Babydoll9799 (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Everton goals

message: Lineker's been honoured with an OBE, but the only mention of it is with the postnominal in the lead. Can someone add at least a sentence about when he got it and what for? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  OBE 

message: Edit suggestion.  Replace this:  
:: In May 2012, Lineker stepped into an argument between Joey Barton and Alan Shearer via Twitter, as reported in the Daily Mirror.[27]
With this:  
:: ((nothing))
There was a player who was removed from some game.  Later, the player complained on twitter.  At some point, Gary Lineker said something about the person complaining, also on twitter.  The complainer then went on to threaten to insult Gary, still via twitter.  This chat was reported in the fine upstanding Daily Mirror.  Now, technically, that counts as WP:NOTEWORTHY, and as an inclusionist, I'm a bit leery of taking it out of wikipedia entirely... but can we not move it over to the article about the complainer, at least?  All the piece contains is a single quote from Gary Lineker's twitter-feed:  
 
"Still raging then? Still kicking out? And still, presumably, misunderstood? But only by yourself I suspect."  
 
The rest of the article is quoting the poorly-spelled insults and vague insinuations from the complainer.  There is no analysis, or similar.  I'd also be happy with just marking this one down as WP:IAR, and yoinking the stuff.  If the only thing that happened between Gary Lineker and Joey Barton (as reported in WP:RS that is) was this one exchange, of exactly one twit from Gary Lineker... that hardly seems worth mentioning, methinks.  Is that the ONLY thing WP:NOTEWORTHY in 2012, folks?  
  See also WP:WELLKNOWN and WP:BLPGOSSIP, which suggest that unless there are multiple sources covering a long-running dispute, this sentence can go.  Thanks for reading, and thanks for improving the 'pedia.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  twit 

message: has twice rewritten the lede, today more extensively than the first time, to emphasise Lineker's broadcasting career over his football career. It seems to me that he is better known for his achievements as a player, and in any event the article is more about his playing career and presents his broadcasting career as a later stage in his life. But I'd like input from others with more familiarity with his current reputation before reverting again. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: here. Gary Lineker has been the presenter for the most famous British football show (Match of the Day), watched by millions in the UK and around the world every week, for 15 years now. He is very well known for this in addition to his illustrious playing career. I don't see how that doesn't at least merit mentioning the fact that he is a current sportsbroadcaster in the opening sentence - i.e., Lineker is a former footballer and current sports broadcaster. Just because his "current reputation" rests more on something that happened years ago does not mean that he should forever be known only for what he did in the past. Raudys (talk) 16:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Our article continues to emphasise his playing career at greater length - rightly, I think. To me it seems both recentism and a bit of a cheapening of his playing career to depict him as a broadcaster who was once a footballer. But the point about Match of the Day is a valid one. So I moved that up into the first para of the lede, which now says more than that he has worked for a bunch of broadcasters. And I updated the list with the NBC arm. But I still believe we have to list playing first. He's not in any broadcasting halls of fame, has not barely missed breaking records as a broadcaster, and some of his authority as a presenter comes from his very distinguished career. So how does it look now? And I'd still like to hear others' take on the issue. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Responding here to the edit summary suggesting I have removed his broadcasting career from the lede ... umm, no, I just don't think it should be presented as his main achievement. "former footballer and current broadcaster" strikes me as clunky, but it works. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emphasis in lede 

message: It should be mentioned that top-ranked UFC (MMA) fighter John Lineker was named after Gary Lineker.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.34.183 (talk) 22:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Lineker 

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message: Right, test-case here for the new Daily Mail ruling. They've got an article (which, from my liberal filter bubble, I have heard about but not actually read) in which Gary Lineker has been accused of dodging his taxes. Clearly unless this is corroborated elsewhere we can't put that Gary Lineker is a tax avoider - but could we maybe put in something like "The Daily Mail has accused him of avoiding paying tax" and reference this with a third-party source? eg https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/09/gary-lineker-hits-back-at-daily-mail-over-tax-accusation  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.175.41 (talk) 07:33, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tax avoidance? 

message: That's quite iconic in a way as TV advertising goes, surely there should be a mention in prose, maybe find a better source? Govvy (talk) 18:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added something back with different sources. Nzd (talk) 12:24, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  thanks for that, cheers, Govvy (talk) 16:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  about the Walkers advertising section that was removed. 

message: Can we put the information back in the article, this content fork  seems completely unnecessary. Govvy (talk) 19:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  International goals 

message: Total league goals for Tottenham Hotspur needs to be amended to 67 (i/o 57) in the career stats section. 2A02:C7F:7016:1000:807E:49AB:665B:8356 (talk) 19:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  04:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2021 

message: Third paragraph - Introduction
Gary Lineker is now the fourth highest England goalscorer, as Harry Kane has now scored more goals.
Source  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAlfman (talk • contribs) 11:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The "source" and 11v11.com websites agree with each other so I have updated that part of the introduction in line with what the websites say. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protected edit request 

message: His goals at Everton have not been counted in the total.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:4A43:4B3F:C6CF:0:0:CA5:5418 (talk) 19:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me regarding your query. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career stats are wrong  

message: Currently in the opening it says "where he presented the flagship football programme Match of the Day from the late 1990s until March 2023," As far as I am aware Lineker is still the host rather is stepping back from an indeterminate amount of time. Is it worth changing that back to say he is still the host.  C. 22468  Talk to me 21:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree. He's not been dismissed or left as far as we know. Rodericksilly (talk) 01:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still MOTD host?  

message: The piece on this is way too long. Wikipedia is suppossed to be an encylopedia not a blog. Coachtripfan (talk) 19:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The info on the list of people who pulled out in solidarity with Lineker can be trimmed. I'll have a go at that now. Rodericksilly (talk) 18:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  MOTD suspension 

message: "Lineker was the highest-paid BBC employee... "
Was he an employee, or a freelance working under contract for services? S C Cheese (talk) 16:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, most sources lead with 'Highest paid star' and then refer to him as a 'presenter', I've changed employee to presenter as it's more NPOV.  However he is paid more than any 'executive' so he may well be the highest paid person outright.  JeffUK 08:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou S C Cheese (talk) 13:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contract with BBC