Talk:Traditions of Texas A&M University

message: All pages should be using proper citation as defined at Template Messages. -- Hut101 20:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proper Citation

message: Aggie Lingo needs additional expanding. I've added to "tea sip" and "Pushing", but there are several more that just need better explaining. -- Hut101 02:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone edited the To-Do list requesting the need for additional lingo relating to food. At first I though it was a joke, but you can find that information at: http://b-batt.aggieband.org/dictionary.html Any ideas on adding it to the list here. -- Hut101 05:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: What do we want to do about the lingo. That site has quite a bit, but there is no way to fit it all here. If we want, we can create an article simply to list all words with complete definitions and histories. Copy what we have and what is on that site. -- Hut101 05:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to be very careful about letting this section of the article go from encyclopedic description to merely a listing of all words Aggie. Already it is very long and list-like rather than descriptive. Also, as mentioned in the discussion of Ball Squeeze (below), this page should try to stick to traditions that are recognized by and are of significance to a significant number of Aggies. Including a multitude of words known only by the Corps (or any other group comprising less than 5% of the population) will not fit that mold. It is, however, very reasonable include that vocabulary on the Corps article. This, of course, is simply my opinion, so please debate. - Raetzsch 03:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After thinking about it, I am not certain that the Aggie Lingo section shouldn't be rewritten as descriptive rather than simply a list. See Wikipedia:Embedded list and see what you think. - Raetzsch 03:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I still believe Wikipedia needs to be an encylopedia of all human knowledge. However, I agree that we can not simply "list" words simply because we use them. We're not a dictionary. Thats why I propose we begin revising each word desciption to include its history, significance, usage, and definition with a verifiable reference. Start with the words we have now, then begin adding until we have all A&M related words. How about the use of "Indented List with content" listed in the article you gave. Seems acceptable to me. -- Hut101 00:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aggie Lingo

message: I continued to update the to-do list. I still need to go through Midnight Yell Practice, Corps of Cadets, Texas Aggie Band, Bonfire, and rewrite each one with more acurate and detailed information following the format that I've been using so far. Also any help expanding the Reveille article would be greatly appreciated. -- Hut101 02:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: To-Do List

message: There is currently a page called Aggie Ring which redirects here. I was wondering if we should move most of the information about the Aggie Ring to that page instead. -- Hut101 02:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aggie Ring

message: Anyone know of a website or pamplet that explains each Class's Wildcat. We were given a story at our SALT Camp, like Fish Camp but for A&M Galveston, but I no longer remember the entire story. -- Hut101 23:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several stories. One is given in this article under Aggie Lingo. Another involves the cadets' arrival in Aggieland by train and their encounter with Pinky Downs. I can look for details later. - Raetzsch 00:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The actual act of showing ones wildcat is not too much of a concern. What is listed is as acurate as far as I know. It's the background story as to why there are certain number of A!s depending on each class. We learned at our camp that the Junior shot the wildcat three times, three A!s and on the third finally hit the cat, shouting in excitement Whoop!. -- Hut101 07:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hate to break it to ya, Ags, but the whole wildcat thing, to be historically accurate, is pretty "new army". Back at least through the 70's, there was only one, and that was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (eg, the freshman wildcat). Part of the reason that I have also added to the to do list to further the Aggie lingo pertaining to food is that the word for pineapple is "wildcat". This is because fish weren't able to eat the fruit until A&M beat t.u. that year, thus earning the ability to indulge in the tropical delicacy, but also the privelege of the AAAAAAA! wildcat. I know we all like our Fightin' Texas Aggie stories, but however entertaining, not all of them are true. Zip '08 A-WHOOP! Txtimetraveler 07:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Uh...my dad ('71) still whoops...the whoop is actually the rebel yell from the Civil War-era of the South. I recommend watching Gettysburg to see an example of it. — BQZip01 — talk 23:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wildcats

message: I'm looking for info and history about Ol' Sarge. -- Hut101 01:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Found a Battalion article that explains differences between Reveille and Ol' Sarge. http://www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2004/09/07/Opinion/Let-The.Dog.Out-711421.shtml?norewrite200612141922&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com. -- Hut101 00:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ol' Sarge

message: How do we satisfy the requirements for "This article or section does not cite its references or sources." so that it can be removed.
:The tag can be removed as easily as it was put in. However, in order for this article to be of the highest quality, we need to establish verifiability. The tag will serve as a reminder to other editors who check this page from time to time and who may contribute sources. Once a high level of verifiability has been established, it should be removed. - Raetzsch 17:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we can assume to some degree that most information comes from the Texas A&M University Traditions website. -- Hut101 05:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No question. It will likely prove to cover most of the uncited material. - Raetzsch 02:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How should we show that most of the information is derived from that one page. Maybe by adding a reference at the end of every paragraph for each tradition that links to the traditions page? -- Hut101 03:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the sections now reference the Aggie Traditions page. I threw in a few more, also. - Raetzsch 04:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the amazing work. I'm still working on the main Texas A&M University article, and hopefully I'll get more work done on the individual traditions later. -- Hut101 06:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Info Bubble

message: Maybe we should consolidate the seperate pages for each tradition back into this main article. Such as Muster. The seperate page for Muster is a single paragraph while within this article it's quite extensive. Also, we risk becoming a directory and causing infinite looping. (Forgot to sign) -- Hut101 17:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That may be a good idea for Muster. However, it seems that Muster is about the only tradition whose individual article is not longer than the brief summary given here. Perhaps we should reduce the length of explanations given here (this article is already very long) and work to expand the separate articles such as Muster. - Raetzsch 17:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: If we reduce these summaries anymore we might as well merge the list back into the main A&M article and move all the content pretaining to the individual traditions into their seperate pages. Also, Silver Taps is about the same length here, as on its own page. -- Hut101 18:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I should have been more specific. Muster and Elephant Walk I thought should be shortened in this article. Several, including Muster, could be expanded in their individual articles. Merging is fine if there's nothing to expand upon, as may be the case with Silver Taps - Raetzsch 18:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll begin working on shortening, and consolidating, when I finish studying for a final. -- Hut101 19:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a lot of historical info to the Muster page, now, too, so it is a nice-sized article. Karanacs 13:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consolidate 

message: I just read the page on Traditions at A & M, and, as a graduate who just had his 35-year reunion, I have to say that the one tradition that was left out is "Change." Muster has changed, Silver Taps has changed, even the words in the endzone "Texas Aggies" have changed to "Texas A&M" because Bill Byrne doesn't like the term "Aggies." 
I was reading the part about the way that Aggies "wildcat" depending upon their class. I never knew any of that, and I was in Cadet Corps from 1967 to 1971. That ain't the way we did it!!! 
I was stunned to hear recently that someone said the grass at the MSC is "Memorial Grass" and that's why you can't walk on it. Baloney! It was simply a gentlemen's agreement back in the 1950's that seniors would not walk on the MSC grass so that it would stay looking nice for visitors to the campus. No one ever heard of "Memorial Grass." That's nonsense. People just make this stuff up over the years, until everyone believes its a tradition. Go figure. PGNormand 00:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you could either get a source explaining how traditions were carried out in the past, or explain yourself we should be able to incorporate that into this article. -- 66.253.146.139 17:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I know exactly what you're talkin' about, buddy, and I'll be the first to add the category. It's the truth, that change is a tradition in Aggieland. Hopefully I can accurately capture that. "Things change over time, but the tradition lives on" they say. Zip '08 Txtimetraveler 07:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this really deserving of mention as an Aggie tradition? By this definition of "change," every institution in the world, academic or otherwise, could list "change" as a tradition. If it is to stay, it needs citations. - Raetzsch 16:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I think it is deserving of a tradition. So many new Ag's are under the impression that tradition doesn't change, but it is a tradition in itself. "Need citation" always seems to be a wiki-euphemism for "I don't like that idea." How do you cite that? Or does that deserve it's own lengthy article that Bonfire was never built the same way twice, or that some old yells aren't used anymore, or that for a long time there was "fight night" boxing matches between the dorms for many years? In short, it's a compact way of describing the evolution of the tradition, which if you look at the to-do list, is an item that remains unremanded. Txtimetraveler 21:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that things do change in Aggieland and that many Ags are unaware of it. But really, everything changes. The traditions listed here are theoretically somewhat unique to A&M. If we list change as a tradition, we might as well list breathing as a tradition. I don't mean to sound obnoxious because I know the addition was in good faith, but I think change is merely a fact of life for everything and everyone. - Raetzsch 03:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Simply informing readers that Traditions at A&M change over time does not contribute any information. Informing others, what traditions changed, how they changed, and how that's relevent compared to other universities is usefull and constructive. By saying that a citation is needed does not mean we don't want or need the section. Only that to ensure the section is relevent to our readers, we need some form of proof that a significant change has occured. You might try the Battalion, as they are a good historical source. Also, on the side, only Baylor and Texas Tech articles list any type of traditions. -- Hut101 05:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, I will work on the section on change. I, beyond personal reasons, think it's really necessary, as too many people are under the impression, Ags and outsiders both, that any alteration of "how it's done" is somehow detrimental to the tradition or "Aggieness" of the institution. If we're seeking accuracy at all here, then there must be some acknowledgement of this for an accurate portrayal in this article. At the same time, citation is not as easy as it comes. The Battalion is only accurate as far back as the person who wrote the article can remember, or cared to check his facts. As such, I ask we not delete this section, it's a relevent start, at least while I do the research.Txtimetraveler 08:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a good point you raise, and I agree. I thing the suggestion of showing how traditions have changed is a good one. Perhaps the best way to do this is to incorporate the history of each tradition into its respective section. (It could potentially get in-depth enough to spawn a new History of traditions at Texas A&M article. Would that be appropriate, or just too much?) What do you think? - Raetzsch 19:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tradition vs. Change 

message: The statement that the design of the Aggie Ring has remained unchanged since 1894 is simply not true. I believe that the original ring design had an intertwined AMC on the crest. Also, I know that the eagle has not always faced the same way. When I was a freshman I had to memorize the years that "the eagle turned his head." I know that one Senior Class (1938 I think) had an oval maroon stone instead of the traditional crest. I know that my father-in-law's ring, my father's ring, and my ring (Classes of '42, '49 and '71, respectively) were much "squattier" in shape and design. But the crest of my sons ring, Class of '99, is much taller. A simple trip to the Corps Center to look at the Ring Collection will confirm all this. I don't know who wrote all the things about the "symbolism" of the Aggie Ring, but it sounds like something that someone made up recently. I don't believe that this "symbolism" was contemporary with the origins of the current design. All of this needs to have a "citation added." PGNormand 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly you are correct about the changes. I am class of 2002 and we were taught that no major changes were made since the 70's, although the general appearance underwent little change for much longer. Some info on the history of changes can be found at http://www.aggienetwork.com/ring/timeline.aspx. Also, I've cited the Association's web site as a reference for the symbolism in question. Perhaps that is a newer tradition, but it is very well-established today. - Raetzsch 18:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aggie Ring 

message: The canon is called the Spirit of '02 if that helps. - Raetzsch 02:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I've added the information, and added a reference for Parsons Mounted Cavalry. -- Hut101 07:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spirit of '02 

message: Should this movie be listed under the Corps of Cadets as a tradition, or possibly listed elsewhere. Maybe under a new article containing all media relating to Texas A&M University. -- Hut101 00:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's see if we have enough examples of media to justify an article. Junction Boys is another film/book. There are plenty of books, but how many are noteworthy? What other types of media? Benjamin Knox art? - Raetzsch 00:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Regardless, any major motion picture should be noteworthy of an article. And I agree, it doesn't really belong here. - Raetzsch 00:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we could start an article and begin listing both digital and paper media privatly published and published by the University. Later we can link to it from the main Texas A&M University page. We don't need to create articles just for each type of media published. Just list them and give a short explaination. -- Hut101 03:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: We've Never Been Licked

message: I was thinking of creating a info box template that can be placed in each article relating to a tradition which will state "Tradition of Texas A&M University" and have a link back to this traditions page, and maybe an image such as the one used on the Aggie Traditions website: http://aggietraditions.tamu.edu/ -- Hut101 03:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Info Box

message: I found a wiki an Aggie started on their website. Aggie Wiki. Maybe some of this information can be incorporated into Wikipedia. -- Hut101 17:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional Information

message: :I believe we should delete references to We've Never been Licked. It is a movie, not a tradition. If you want to make it a tradition, reference how the movie is used as a tradition, not that it was made at/about A&M. Will delete in 5 days if there is no objection.
::Though We've Never been Licked is not a tradition, it's a movie that refers to Texas A&M and should remain. However, there is uncertaincy as to where we should place the information. Some universities includeing t.u. have a section on their main article that lists media that has referenced the university. I say the section should be kept, however, it could use a new home. -- Hut101 17:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about moving We've Never been Licked in the same manner as arcane terminology? I moved it to the bottom and placed it under Movies.BQZip01 17:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a great location for now. Maybe some day I'll get around to creating an article just for media relating to A&M. -- Hut101 18:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving "We've Never Been Licked" 

message: :While steam showers were a thing of the past and it is now considered hazing, it should be put in proper context and I added an extra section for it. These terms are still used in The Standard as examples of outlawed hazing and are often used in Aggie stories of Ol' Army days. It deserves its place, but should be given proper context. If someone has a better suggestion of where to put it, I'd be happy to move them, but they don't belong in everyday lingo and shouldn't be refered to as "hazing" unless put in today's context (it wasn't always considered hazing).
::Good idea, placing them in a section with proper context. -- Hut101 17:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd LOVE to see this section expanded.BQZip01 17:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Is this really accurate to call these "outdated"? My outfit still does most of these (this from an '08 butt), and we're a First Brigade integrated outfit. Maybe in Wing-land or Band-land they don't exist but that's hardly universal, wouldn't you agree? Txtimetraveler 06:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arcane terminology 

message: Can someone add this picture in the 12th man towel section? I'm still a little rusty on how to do it. http://12thmanfoundation.com/mag/Vol5/vol5no05/images/flashback.jpg
:We'll have to get permission from them first before using the image. Very few admins support uploading images under "Fair Use" which I could do now. -- Hut101 18:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  12th Man Towel 

message: I've done a lot of work recently on the Aggie Bonfirearticle.  What else do we need to add/expand/modify on that article to get it in a state where it doesn't need to be on the todo list here? Karanacs 13:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bonfire

message: Just wanted to mention this non reg tradition before i forget Oldag07 18:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not just a non-reg tradition; Corps members (most notably and visibly, the Yell Leaders) do too. — BQZip01 — talk 20:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Painted overalls

message: * Pennies on Sul Ross Statue
* Overalls as mentioned above
* Traditions Council 
* Class Councils
* March to the Brazos
* Yell Practice in front of capital during t.u. away games
* Locking arms and swaying during the war hymn
* 12th man song
* Bottle cap spurs before Tech/SMU games
* Fish pond- throwing people in
* Aggie Introductions "Howdy, I am Oldag07, but most importantly i am a proud/the proudest (controversial) of the fightin' Texas Aggie class of 2007"
* Boot Dance
* Senior boots
* Aggie Moms clubs/ Texas A&M Clubs
* Class Councils
* Class Gifts
* Century Tree
* Whooping
* The use of the word "traditions" in things around campus and BCS. the energy saving slogan at a&m is "Saving Energy, The New Aggie Tradition" and traditions book stores
* Bus routes named after traditions
* eventually if we do have an aggie yells page, we should write all of them down with their pass backs.  
I am certainly not advocating putting them all in, but just brainstorming Oldag07 23:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the following to the article - Wildcatting, senior boots, and March to the Brazos.  I'll see if I can find external sources for some of the others. Karanacs 18:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More traditions before i forget

message: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4958480.html Oldag07 00:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nice article on the ring

message: I've been working on expanding and citing the article Traditions of Texas A&M University for what feels like years, but probably was only a few weeks.  I've finally gotten it into what I feel is a relatively cohesive, well-cited article that does a decent job of explaining what we're all about.  Now I need a host of other eyes to pick through it and figure out what I got wrong, what I left out, and what ought to be excluded.  I also need help with the lead.  It's really short but I have a mental block about that, apparently, and can't think of any good way to expand it.  All help is greatly appreciated!! Karanacs 20:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help Wanted

message: i am going to take a stab at it:
Since 1912, each graduating class has presented a gift to Texas A&M.  Several prominent landmarks on campus were originally class gifts such as Fish Pond: the lettering that spells "Welcome to Kyle Field" and "Home of the 12th Man" was a gift from the class of 1988, the 12th Man Statue, from the class of 1980.  Several classes have also provided "President Endowed Scholarships" to future students. 
The class gift is organized by the graduating class's Class Council. Funds are raised from that graduating class beginning the freshmen year from events that are traditions in themselves including Ring Dance, Boot Dance, Maroon Out and Pull Out day.  The class gift itself is decided by vote during student body elections the junior year of graduating classes' experience.   The class gift is announced during the graduating class's Elephant Walk.  ??? Source
The most recent graduating class, the Class of 2007's gift will provide renovations to Fish Pond, and a endowment to the organization CARPOOL.  
as for muster, we might want to say something about the muster organization running that muster.
if the band is a tradition, than so is the singing cadets, the wranglers.  we might as well have a seperate article on Texas A&M organizations.  i got a whole lot in my student life page with i haven't worked on for a while.  just a suggestion.
First Yell (new army fight)
The Red, White and Blue out was not per se part of the maroon out tradition.
is bonfire too long now that we have an FA.
add wildcats to privileged words ?
Oldag07 11:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More sources:
Constitution of class councils.  says exactly where funds of class gift go.- http://classof2005.tamu.edu/about.htm
a batt article- http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2005/07/05/News/G.Rollie.Plaza.To.Match.Kyle.Fields-960656.shtml
elephant walk class gift quote- http://www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2006/11/21/News/Seniors.Take.Last.Steps.Through.Campus-2505372.shtml?norewrite200612272128&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com
Oldag07 11:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Class gifts aren't unique to A&M though; many colleges do that.  Even in high school my class raised money for a class gift.  Unless there is anything unique about our program (and I can't think of anything), then I don't think this belongs in the tradition section. Karanacs 13:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Class gift 

message: What do you guys thing about putting the aggie honor code into the traditions section?  Oldag07 16:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. — BQZip01 — talk 16:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Like the United States Service Academies, Texas A&M also has a Code of Honor. The Aggie Code of Honor is as follows, "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal".  http://student-rules.tamu.edu/aggiecode.htm  Formalized enforcement of the Aggie Code has been formalized in recent years with the formation of the Aggie Honor system office by former university President Robert Gates. http://www.tamu.edu/aggiehonor/
http://www.aggiecorps.org/About/aggiecode.htm
http://www.aggiesports.com/traditions/school/dictionary.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldag07 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Might be better to include the whole thing:An Aggie does not lie, cheat, or steal or tolerate those who do. from  — BQZip01 — talk 20:57, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That would be great if you could get the image here.  There is a guideline on how to properlyrequest copyright permission.  If you follow this and reupload the image, it should be fine. Karanacs 20:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked the copyright page over; the photographer does not want to allow commercial use of the picture without direct permission.  I guess that leaves it out, then. Racooper 00:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aggie Honor Code

message: I will try to put this source in soon, but I can't at the moment.  http://www.thebatt.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=7d424566-eac7-4118-afd9-7bd48a1f5695
Oldag07 (talk) 02:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WOW! Nice find! — BQZip01 — talk 03:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Good Wildcat Source 

message: This is want Wikipedia says, "Students who choose not to participate in The Other Education are known on campus as "2 Percenters," because of the belief that only 2% of students do not endorse Texas A&M traditions"
This is what the source says “'Kids who only go to class are known as ‘2 percenters’  because going to class is only 2 percent of what there is to do at A&M,'” Unless I do not know English These do not say the same thing!!! Zginder 2008-09-20T06:06Z (UTC)
: I don't have source but...the meaning of 2%er has changed over the years, I've been talking to Old Ags who use two-percenter to refer to the portion of the student body that wasn't in the Corps.  I don't even consider the university's "traditions" docs to be canon on this one. Racooper (talk) 22:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll change the text back to match the source - it's difficult with traditions articles because the traditions have matured.  We have to go with the sources though. Karanacs (talk) 19:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citition 11 is not want is cited 

message: From the President of the U.S. nonetheless!
— BQZip01 — talk 07:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a transcript of his address. I don't think we need any more sources as of now, but just in case we do, we can rely on this one. BlueAg09 (Talk) 12:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Source for more traditions

message: I'm working on an article for Fish Camp, which I believe has changed so much over the years and deserves a bit more talk than the few mentions this article gives it.  I am going to be doing some research and writing over the next month or two, and any help or suggestions on the matter would be appreciated.  --Jakebathman (talk) 07:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that all information must be sourced to reliable sources (all TAMU websites don't count).  If the information hasn't been covered in anything beyond the Batt or the university websites, then it's probably not really that notable.  I'm unconvinced that a separate article is justified, but I'll wait and see what you come up with. Karanacs (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would disagree with the assertion that "all TAMU websites don't count". They certainly count, but they must be reliable. Sourcing the number of attendees is fine. Saying it is "the largest gathering of its kind in the world" would not be appropriate. Let me know if you need help. — BQZip01 — talk 15:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fish Camp article

message: If anyone is looking for detailed info on Aggie traditions I have a gold mine of information. I was on the Traditions Council this past year. Every member is given a binder full of information and documents from the University Archives to memorize so we can go around apeaking to various groups about A&M traditions. Contact me on my talk page if intrested. Txaggie2011 (talk) 18:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Where possible, we really need good third-party sources.  If there is any information that was from, say newspapers or books, that would be useful here.  If it is primary documents created by the university departments, we should use them sparingly. Karanacs (talk) 19:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold Mine of Traditions Info

message: What would yall think of changing the heading "Asking for Luck" to something else.  It seems vague, I am not sure yet of a better title for this section but any ideas would be appreciated.--Sdk2k11 (talk) 00:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Brainstorm- 
*Putting a penny on Sully 
*Asking Sully for Luck
*Sullivan Ross Statue
*Sully
*Any more?
Oldag07 (talk) 23:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

text: My initial ideas were similar to this but if we choose one of these then we need to pull the Century tree out of that section (possibly to its own).  I would lean towards "Sullivan Ross Statue" or "Lawrence Sullivan Ross Statue" because even though the penny tradition is the only reason it is significant to the article I feel that "Putting a penny on Sully" or "Asking Sully for Luck" is wordy and wouldn't fit well.  That is just my personal opinion though.--Sdk2k11 (talk) 01:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is appropriate to simply put it as a footnote with the statue itself. — BQZip01 — talk 01:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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