Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/July 3

message: Why isn't the official national holiday of Belarus mentioned? Cmapm 19:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I didn't know, and I have been away. Is it really Independence Day ? Public holidays in Belarus says so. Not July 27 nor August 25 ? Hmmm.... Anyway, it's on the template now, good for 2007. Would National Day be more appropriate ? --PFHLai 04:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Independence Day" is alright IMHO, because it means liberation from Nazis in 1944 (Minsk was liberated on this day). Cmapm 04:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Minsk was liberated on 3 July 1944 during Operation Bagration. How about Liberation Day ? --PFHLai 05:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't understand, why we should invent new names. "Independence Day" is the official translation  and is even named so in the American CIA World Fact Book . Cmapm 10:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am claiming ignorance here. I really don't know. I would associate "Independence Day" with events on July 27 or August 25. I find this quite odd.  But, as "Independence Day" is the official translation, we should keep it. Thanks. -- PFHLai 10:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Independence Day

message: :Moved from Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors
I'm quite sure the Capetians didn't last to anywhere near the French Revolution; the dynasty went extinct with the death of Charles IV in 1328, and was followed by the Valois and Bourbon dynasties.  Kirill Lokshin 17:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the article on the Capetians, the Valois and Bourbon dynasties are branches of the Capetian dynasty. However, I must note that House of Bourbon doesn't mention the Capetians at all. joturner 20:57, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, while the Valois and Bourbon are technically branches of the House of Capet, the term "Capetian dynasty" is used (outside Wikipedia, anyways) only in reference to the direct Capetian line. Kirill Lokshin 21:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capetian dynasty 

message: Today is the Fast of the Seventeenth of Tammuz in Judaism, one of the six fasts of the Jewish year. Please add it if possible. Valley2city 05:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fast of the 17th of Tammuz 

message: July 3, 1988,:
Iran Air Flight 655 also known as IR655, was a civilian airliner shot down by US missiles on Sunday July 3, 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz, toward the end of the Iran-Iraq War. It resulted in killing of 290 passengers, among them many women and children.--ماني (talk) 07:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: To be added

message: Quebec City was founded on this date in 1608, today being its 400th anniversary. Radagast (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quebec 

message: *Moved to Ineligible: Pitcairn Islands
*Omitted: Battle of Adrianople (324); Great Auk; Falls Curfew; Same-sex marriage in Spain
*Included: Hugh Capet (6th appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Wyoming (4th appearance, last in 2009); Iran Air Flight 655 (4th appearance, last in 2010)
*Repeats: Quebec City (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 06:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  2012 notes 

message: I was bold and put this in. I think there are 3 main reasons/
1. 150th anniversary
2. Great overall article
3. Would be its first time (I think)
4. The Battle of Wyoming was a minor event at best, while the Battle of Gettysburg basically sealed the fate of the entire South, the Battle of Wyoming had little effect in a samll area in Pennsylvania.
Themane2 (talk) 00:06, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Pickett's Charge

message: Hi  - I noticed that the entry for Ziggy says it needs expansion, but I don't understand what that means. There are 3 wikilinks in the entry, one to David Bowie, which is a Featured Article, one to Ziggy Stardust (character), which, while not rated, is a fairly substanstive article, and one to the Ziggy Stardust Tour page, which is also not rated, but thorough and well-cited. Is there something else that needs to be done to bring this entry up to the quality standards required for inclusion? Thank you! 87Fan (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi 87Fan, thanks for suggesting this article for inclusion.  Each entry has to have a "bold" article that is highlighted.  In this case I thought the Ziggy Stardust article the best one to feature.  One of the criteria for the article to be featured is that it "must be a relatively complete and well-formatted article, free from 'yellow'-level or more severe article issue tags".  There is an orange "this section needs expansion" tag at Ziggy_Stardust_(character)#Cultural_impact; if this can be resolved then it would be good to go.  I did look at Ziggy Stardust Tour as well but the Ziggy_Stardust_Tour#Songs section is largely uncited - Dumelow (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Dumelow! This is great information. I was able to update both articles, including adding citations where necessary and removing uncited statements when required. I believe that, between those changes, neither article has any 'needs citation' tags anymore. I agree that the Ziggy Stardust (character) page is the best one to highlight/bold. Let me know if you disagree, and appreciate your guidance here! 87Fan (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks 87Fan, I don't know enough about the subject to make a judgement but the tags have been removed.  I added the book I assume you were referring to (Pegg 2016) to the tour article.  I'll look to add in the Ziggy event for this year's selection now - Dumelow (talk) 08:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, I missed adding the Pegg book to the article? My bad, thank you for catching and fixing it. That was the right thing. Appreciate your help here, and happy to see this will show up on the 7/3 article! 87Fan (talk) 14:17, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm currently working on a full expansion of the Ziggy tour article here. I already have quite a lot but am planning on fast tracking that this weekend as I'd like it to be finished by the anniversary. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 17:59, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ziggy Stardust "slated for expansion" - what does that mean? 

message: *Omitted: Hugh Capet; Quebec City; Battle of Wyoming; Attack on Mers-el-Kébir
*Included: Great Auk (5th appearance, last in 2011); Pickett's Charge (7th appearance, last in 2010; 150th anniversary); Falls Curfew (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Same-sex marriage in Spain (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
*Repeats: Iran Air Flight 655 (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 25th anniversary)
—howcheng  {chat} 07:19, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  2013 notes 

message: *Omitted: Pickett's Charge (ineligible—POTD for 2014); Iran Air Flight 655; Same-sex marriage in Spain
*Included: Battle of Adrianople (324) (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Fort Necessity (2nd appearance, last in 2009); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
*Repeats: Great auk (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Falls Curfew (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 06:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2014 notes 

message: Use of the word 'only' is incorrect: the article gives two consequences.  It is also POV as it gives the impression that the actions by one side were ill-conceived, perhaps foolish.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.208.152.158 (talk) 12:07, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In this context, "only" signifies that the action had a consequence which was the opposite of what was intended. For example, "The company lowered the price of the widget, only to find that sales dropped even lower than before." —howcheng  {chat} 06:50, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Troubles 

message: *Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Pickett's Charge
*Omitted: Battle of Adrianople (324); Battle of Fort Necessity; Attack on Mers-el-Kébir; Falls Curfew
*Included: Quebec City (7th appearance, last in 2012); Pitcairn Islands (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Iran Air Flight 655 (6th appearance, last in 2013); 2013 Egyptian coup d'état (first appearance)
*Repeats: Great auk (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 07:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  2015 notes 

message: *Moved to Ineligible: Same-sex marriage in Spain (maintenance)
*Omitted: Belarus (ineligible—maintenance); Quebec City (ineligible—maintenance); Great auk; Iran Air Flight 655; 2013 Egyptian coup d'état (ineligible—maintenance)
*Included: Hugh Capet (7th appearance, lats in 2012); Battle of Santiago de Cuba (first appearance); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (4th appearance, lats in 2014); Falls Curfew (4th appearance, lats in 2014)
*Repeats: Pitcairn Islands (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 05:47, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. —howcheng  {chat} 07:27, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

text: That article is too short for inclusion. —howcheng  {chat} 07:27, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  2016 notes 

message: *Omitted: Hugh Capet (ineligible—maintenance); Pitcairn Islands (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Santiago de Cuba
*Included: Battle of Adrianople (324) (4th appearance, last in 2014); Pickett's Charge (8th appearance, last in 2013); Same-sex marriage in Spain (3rd appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Dong Chang (warlord) (first appearance); Jacobus Gallus (first appearance); Tom Cruise (first appearance)
*Repeats: Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Falls Curfew (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 07:52, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  2017 notes 

message: *Omitted: Pickett's Charge; Attack on Mers-el-Kébir; Same-sex marriage in Spain; Dong Chang (warlord); Jacobus Gallus; Tom Cruise
*Included: Battle of Fort Necessity (3rd appearance, last in 2014); 1938 Gettysburg reunion/Eternal Light Peace Memorial (both: first appearance); Iran Air Flight 655 (7th appearance, last in 2015); William Jones (mathematician) (first appearance); Leoš Janáček (first appearance); Bo Xilai (first appearance)
*Repeats: Battle of Adrianople (324) (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Falls Curfew (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 07:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  2018 notes 

message: *New articles (unused): SS United States
*Omitted: Battle of Fort Necessity; 1938 Gettysburg reunion; Iran Air Flight 655; William Jones (mathematician); Leoš Janáček
*Included: Battle of Wyoming (5th appearance, last in 2012); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (6th appearance, last in 2017); Operation Cyclone (first appearance; 40th anniversary); Same-sex marriage in Spain (4th appearance, last in 2017); Robert Adam (first appearance); Hasan Tahsini (first appearance)
*Repeats: Battle of Adrianople (324) (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Falls Curfew (4th consecutive appearance, 7 total); Bo Xilai (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 70th birthday)
—howcheng  {chat} 18:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2019 notes 

message: *Moved to Ineligible: Pickett's Charge/Battle of Gettysburg (both: maintenance); Battle of Santiago de Cuba (maintenance); Leoš Janáček (maintenance)
*New articles (ineligible): S. V. Ranga Rao (maintenance); Peter van Geersdaele (TFA for 2020); Yvonne B. Miller (maintenance)
*New articles (unused): Dan-Air Flight 1903
*Omitted: Operation Cyclone; Same-sex marriage in Spain; Robert Adam; Hasan Tahsini; Bo Xilai
*Included: Dong Chang (warlord) (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Jacobus Gallus (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Tom Cruise (2nd appearance, last in 2017)
*Repeats: Battle of Adrianople (324) (4th consecutive appearance, 7 total); Battle of Wyoming (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 80th anniversary); Falls Curfew (5th consecutive appearance, 8 total; 50th anniversary)
—howcheng  {chat} 18:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 notes 

message: *New articles (ineligible): Āpirana Ngata (maintenance)
*New articles (unused): Peter van Geersdaele
*Omitted: Battle of Wyoming; Falls Curfew; Jacobus Gallus; Tom Cruise
*Included: Pickett's Charge (9th appearance, last in 2017; rescued from Ineligible); Dan-Air Flight 1903 (first appearance); 2013 Egyptian coup d'état (2nd appearance, last in 2017; rescued from Ineligible); Charlotte Perkins Gilman (first appearance); Lew Hoad (first appearance)
*Repeats: Battle of Adrianople (324) (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Attack on Mers-el-Kébir (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Dong Chang (warlord) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 1125th anniversary)
—howcheng  {chat} 03:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  2021 notes 

message: *Omitted: Pickett's Charge; Attack on Mers-el-Kébir; 2013 Egyptian coup d'état; Dong Chang (warlord); Charlotte Perkins Gilman; Lew Hoad
*Included: Battle of Fort Necessity (4th appearance, last in 2018); SS United States (first appearance; 70th anniversary); Same-sex marriage in Spain (5th appearance, last in 2019); Sir Robert Rich, 4th Baronet; Hasan Tahsini (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Tom Cruise (3rd appearance, last in 2020; 60th birthday)
*Repeats: Battle of Adrianople (324) (6th consecutive appearance, 9 total); Dan-Air Flight 1903 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)
—howcheng  {chat} 18:48, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2022 notes