Talk:Apolo Ohno

message: Apolo started at the auburn skating rink and moved to team Extream soon later.He won third at nationals one year on team Extream.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.116.176.216 (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, do you have a reliable source for this info?  Thanks, oncamera(t) 23:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apolo starting at auburn skate connetion 

message: Did Apolo Ohno's father really name him after the words "Ap" and "Lo" and not just after the Greek God, Apollo? This seems hard to believe. 128.36.163.129 (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's what a lot of sources say.  Otherwise, I think it would be spelled the same way as Apollo.  oncamera(t) 00:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

text: 40+ years ago?  Ah, hmm, it's supposed to be "Apo" instead of just "Ap" as in ἀπό or ἀπο-, which is "away from".  And I think "Lo" is λώ, as in lo and behold.  Geez not everyone makes things up!  Haha, oncamera(t) 05:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name? 

message: The link for cross-tracking points to the Rules section of Short_track_speed_skating is dead because there is no Rules section on that page; in fact there is no explanation of the term on that page. The term needs definition and explanation here, or a new link. Thanks. Tweet7 (talk) 02:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I never noticed it went missing.  Anyway, I found the Rules section and added them back to Short track speed skating.  Thanks for pointing that out! Cross-tracking (DQX): Deliberately cutting in front of a competitor who is attempting to pass.  oncamera(t) 04:44, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross-Tracking 

message: "With three laps remaining and currently in second position, Ohno attempted make to pass on the leader Kim, who then drifted to the inside and as a result, Ohno raised his arms to signal he was blocked. " Enigmamsg 06:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed! oncamera(t) 00:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo? 

message: After a disqualification in the 500 m race,[24] he was leading the skaters in the 1000 m race; during a turn around the final corner, Ahn Hyun Soo fell while attempting to pass Ohno and Li Jiajun on the inside, causing Ohno, Li, and Mathieu Turcotte to crash into the barriers. 
This para needs to be corrected. Watch the slow motion. Here is how it goes.
As the skater approach the final turn, Li Jiajun tries to pass Ohno on the outside. Ohno tries to block Li out with an elevated arm. Ahn sees the opportunity to pass inside while Ohno is preoccupied with Li. Li spirals off course but Ohno is also unbalanced as him and Ahn make the final turn. Ohno is hopelessly trying to stay balanced and not deviate from the inside lane where Ahn is almost certain to pass him. Ohno is going down already and while doing so, his wrist clips Ahn's ankle/shin Ahn falls and takes Turcotte behind him.
The biggest winner here is Bradbury obviously. 2nd biggest winner is Ohno. It seemed like Ohno was hard done by as it looked like Ahn had taken the whole field out. Ohno never ever complained about Ahn. He knew he was the cause of it all and knowing Ohno's antics he would have cried foul if he felt 0.1% hard done by. Ohno should have been DQ'd too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jinu4ever (talk • contribs) 09:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:Original Research.  Anyway, the sentence is neutral and factual as it is.  No need to change it.  oncamera(t) 00:40, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This para needs to be corrected... 

message: what is the name of the hairpiece on ohnos chin?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.82.232.136 (talk) 06:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Soul patch. Some women do not like it, but I don't see how that's worthy of mention. Enigmamsg 09:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  hair piece 

message: The two intro paragraphs need to be updated to the below...
Apolo Anton Ohno (pronounced /əˈpɒloʊ ˈæntɒn ˈoʊnoʊ/; born May 22, 1982) is an American short track speed skating competitor and a seven-time medalist (two gold, two silver, three bronze) in the Winter Olympics.
Ohno has won seven Olympic medals over his career and is one of only four Americans who have won three medals in a single Winter Olympic games.[3] He surpassed Bonnie Blair for most career medals at the Winter Games by an American in the 2010 Vancouver Olympics.[4] He has been the reigning United States’ champion since 2001 and has won the men's national title a total of 12 times.[4] In December 1999, he became the youngest skater to win a World Cup event title, and became the first American to win a World Cup overall title in 2001.[4][5] In 2008, Ohno won his first overall World Championship title.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcurtis (talk • contribs) 04:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated it but without the Bonnie Blair mentioning.  Doesn't he stand alone now? oncamera(t) 04:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: The comment Lee Jung-su made is alleged.  If it's going to be included it needs to be the direct quote from said Korean media outlet.  Since it isn't, it's just heresay.--70.246.130.36 (talk) 04:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what you're saying.  Deleting his comments make the "controversy" less worthy of even being mentioned (I would love to delete the whole thing).  Everyone seems to get everyone's words wrong.  Ohno said at the medal ceremony that Lee congratulated him, so I can see how it's confusing to know if Lee actually said these things. oncamera(t) 04:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Oncamera; the "controversy" should be deleted.  Its notability is debatable, and I suspect that when the article goes up for FAC again, its reviewers will recommend that it be removed.  Evan Lysacek's "controversy" isn't even on his BLP (another GA, although this article is much better), and it has more bearing on their sport than this one.  (To be fair, though, Evgeny Pleshenko's BLP mentions it, but the source it uses is more reliable than the sources about this controversy.)  My two cents, folks. --Christine (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect sourcing. 

message: The following sentence needs editing:
When the South Korean team scored a goal against the U.S. team, many spectators made a move imitating the (some felt to be exaggerated) move Ohno had made during the speed skating event to indicate the other athlete had drifted into his lane.
It was not the spectators but rather the Korean players on the field who celebrated after scoring their equalizer against the US by mocking Ohno.
Watch the match review on Youtube starting from 3:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDd-UBL4Njo
The player imitating Kim is Ahn Jung Hwan and Ohno Lee Chun Soo. The two are very famous footballers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjdot (talk • contribs) 01:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to: When the South Korean team scored a goal against the U.S. team, Korean players Ahn Jung-Hwan and Lee Chun-Soo made an exaggerated move imitating the move Ohno had made during the speed skating event to indicate the other athlete had drifted into his lane.  I hope that clarifies it!  oncamera(t) 02:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2002 World Cup goal celebration 

message: How can an entry for a sportsman in a marginal discipline like speed skating be this long? There's barely enough justification for a stub, let alone this epic tale of utter irrelevance. Ninety (90) footnotes. This is insane.
For example: 'In Salt Lake City, Utah, Ohno emerged as a popular athlete among American fans for reportedly charming them with his cheerful attitude and laid-back style.[23]' How can that possibly be of any interest? Wikipedia urgently needs a word limit, like a comment box, where only so many characters are available and entries automatically cut off when the limit is reached.Sartoresartus (talk) 02:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Why did you even bother to come to his page or read the article if you don't want to know anything about him?  Interesting, because if you read his article, you should have realized the relevance. Cheers, oncamera(t) 02:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I also realized the limits of its relevance.Sartoresartus (talk) 04:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length 

message: For the 500m final for the 2010 winter olympics, it currently says:
However, he was disqualified after impeding Francois-Louis Tremblay of Canada around the final turn.
Is that really the most objective way to cover this? The article used for the reference refers to him actually causing Tremblay to fall. This little sports illustrated article does the same. They actually phrased it:
On the final lap, he tried to cut inside Canada's Francois-Louis Tremblay for a clean pass. Instead, he made contact with Tremblay, taking him out of the race.
Wouldn't it make more sense to cover it as the references do? Or, at the very least, to acknowledge that he was faulted for causing a fall, rather than claiming that he 'impeded' another skater? (I've yet to hear any proper reference refer to it as 'impeding')
It also seems like it would be better to include his comments on the decision, including, "You know, it's the head Canadian referee out there and there were two Canadians in the race.". It just seems that, if him crossing the line second is worth mentioning, and his disqualification is worth mentioning, then so are his comments on the matter? 72.88.100.169 (talk) 03:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: His comments were said in the heat of the moment and wouldn't really add much to the paragraph.  Impeding is "Impeding (DQI): Pushing, blocking, or otherwise causing an impediment for another skater" and that's what he was disqualified for; pushing the other skater.  I will link that word impeding to the rules section of Short Track Speed Skating.  oncamera(t) 03:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Oh, and I was going to say that describing the race with a little more detail might be useful just without that quote as it might be POV-pushing.  Mentioning how he started from the third lane position, trailed in fourth for most of the race, and how he impeded in more details?  The article is un-protected now, so if anyone feels like it, go ahead.  oncamera(t) 04:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disqualified after "impeding" Tremblay? 

message: Currently the article says "He is the most decorated American Winter Olympic athlete of all time".
Is that true?
Nobody from Canada or any of the other subcontinents of america with more medals?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.225.84.107 (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is true.  He has won eight thus far, more than any other Winter Olympian. --Christine (talk) 06:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why this argument over who is really defined under the term "American" randomly shows up on articles (I've seen this on Andy Roddick too).  Generally speaking, it's someone from the United States.  Of course it could be used for anyone from the two continents, but that's rarely the usage.  Common usage prevails.  Take this discussion over to here or someplace more relevant. oncamera(t) 00:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal count 

message: Hey, do we want to mention anywhere in here that he ran the 2011 NYC Marathon?  I have a source: that Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 16:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  NYC Marathon 

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