Talk:Waka (canoe)

message: I have added the IPA pronunciation of waka in Māori. Yes, it does rhyme with the NZ English pron. of 'rocker'. No, it does not rhyme with 'parker' . No, it is not pronounced wah-kah. The pronunciation in NZ English is very similar to the correct Māori pronunciation, except that the English pronunciation ends with a schwa instead of -a. Kahuroa 19:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The correct pronunciation is Faka, Since maori are obsessed with putting h after all w's and pronuncing it 'f'.210.185.4.193 (talk) 03:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they also have plain w. kwami (talk) 04:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's a plain 'w'. And there is an allophonic pronunciation of 'a' between 'w' and 'k' as 'o' as in rock. As I said above. Kahuroa (talk) 06:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: I've just taken out two references to "Museum displays" apparently intended as sources. They don't qualify as reliable sources because they are not "published" and hence not verifiable. They can change at any time and are open to individual interpretation. If the museums concerned, or someone else, had published an account in a verifiable source about the displays etc, that would be different, but personal observation constitutes original research IMHO. Kahuroa (talk) 20:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the way it works around here. Published verifiable sources  are required.  Kahuroa (talk) 09:52, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Then its about time some clear thinking individual challeged that-it is clearly a nonsense rule  in the 21st century!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.158.149 (talk) 04:59, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to discuss your proposed changes at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability.  Kahuroa (talk) 06:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Museum displays as sources

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thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Just added a reference to archaeological finds of Maori waka aka outrigger floats. This disproves the assertions above that early European explorers mistook double canoes for outrigger canoes and adds to the linguistic and observational evidence that Maori did indeed use proper outrigger canoes. Piwaiwaka (talk) 11:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Waka ama archaeological evidence

message: It is well established the Maori originally came from the East pacific about 1280. Recently there have been some finds that narrow down the location. The evidence -a shell chisel ,pearl lure, burial traditions, linguistics and DNA points to the Society Island. Old Maori traditions often mention Raiatea or nearby Huahine island as the origin. Science is coming closer to supporting these origins. James Cook mentioned that these islands had a tradition of mid sized voyaging canoes -which he saw on shore at Raiatea. He mentions that  the islanders took voyages of up to 30 days on these vessels-far more than was needed for local travel where many islands could be reached in 1-2 days. Recently a 600 year old waka was found in NW Nelson that has decoration and construction detail that are very "un Maori".The timber however is Matai from New Zealand .The caulking in the waka is dated to about 1400. Matai is a hard durable wood that could last 30 years without difficulty possibly taking the waka back to 1350ish.The turtle design is not one ever seen before on a waka. It is a common pacific motif but turtles are found  in NZ waters. The construction details suggest the stern section of a catamaran roughly 50feet long. Claudia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 09:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance of E Pacific culture to Maori 

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message: There is a redirection for the word 'wakanui' to this page. Wakanui is not mentioned on this page. There is a Aotearoa/New Zealand electorate called Wakanui, a wiki page about this, and 2 wiki pages about elections held in the electorate. Given that this page does not mention Wakanui, that people searching for Wakanui may want to read something about the actual thing called wakanui, can somebody with more expertise than me remove the redirection please. Brunswicknic (talk) 09:05, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not Wakanui!