Talk:Sri Lanka/Archive 2

message: The section does not mention any actual accord.  
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7752_1605741,004100180006.htm
notes: 
"The Sri Lankan government felt cheated because it believed that it was on the verge of crushing the LTTE when the Indians intervened politically and militarily.
The LTTE, on the other hand, feared that the accord was but an Indian ploy to thwart its plans to secure an independent "Tamil Eelam".
From the mid 1980s, the LTTE has believed that India is basically using Tamil militancy in Sri Lanka only to browbeat Colombo into backing its own geopolitical interests.
... India did help the Tamils get a modicum of recognition and power through the unification of the Tamil-speaking North and East and the setting up of a North Eastern Provincial Council (NEPC) with some devolved power under the new 13th amendment to the Sri Lankan constitution.
But to the LTTE, the 13th amendment was a far cry from an independent Tamil Eelam.
..."
Pgan002 20:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indo-Sri Lankan Accord 

message: Bro Gauthama Buddha was not the only Buddha born in this world according to the Buddhist cronicles. There were 28 buddhas before sidhartha Gauthama. Shiva is also believed in some places as a previous Buddha, before Gautama Buddha.
If you know the acient dances in pahatharata Sri Lanka there are parts coming from the period of Ravana ( rakshasas ) which mentions about Buddhism before Gauthama.
Chandrika Prasad Jidnyasu has observed that Ravana was contemporary of Buddha and has attended His discourses and believed in Buddha's karuna and non violence. Acharya Narendra Deva in his "Buddha Darshna describes Ravana asking one hundred questions to the Buddha about Buddhist doctrine like Nirvana. [p.53-54, Ravana aur Uski Lanka] Ravana has accepted the concept of Nibbana and Shunyata of the Buddhists.
The society, worshiping totems, naturally was against Vedic Yajnyas. Ravana and Buddha both were believers of nonviolence, and were the heroes of struggle against Yajnyas. Adivasi Ravana and Buddha and Charwaka were criminals in the eyes of Aryans. [p.28, Chandrika Prasad Jidnyasu: "Ravana Aur Uski Lanka"]
These mentions about Buddhas in these ancient Indian books does not talk about Gauthama Buddha either,. It refers to Previous Buddha’s.
Gauthama Buddha himself has mentioned about previous 28 Buddha’s … U probably would have heard about in one life of Buddha he was in the period of kashyapa Buddha. Please read more in “Thripitaka”, “pansiyapanas jathakaya” & many ancient Buddhist cronicles ( I would give more refferences to you probably when I remember ) 
In Appendix No.1 of Part 3 of the book  Riddles of Hinduism 1995 By Dr. Babasaheb B.R.Ambedkar It also says,.. “Ravana was a Buddhist and considered by Dalits as a great hero.  
The Riddles in Hinduism is a scholarly work by the greatest intellectual of India, though an Untouchable. The text of his writings on Rama and Krishna are based on Hindu scriptures.”
There are more evidence in our pahatharata yaksha dancing traditions if you would search more,.. SO DO NOT CALL THEM NONSENCE  JUST CAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS.
Sri Lankan Buddhists traditionally held Ravana in respect, perhaps knowing he was one of their own ancestors. The famous Buddhist Sutra, the Lankavatara, looks to Sri Lanka as a holy land and the Sutra is given in honour of Ravana himself, who is styled as the king of the Yakshas. Even a close study of the Ramayanaya, particularly the last book or Uttara Kanda, reveals that Ravana was a "Hela" living under Buddhist peceptions.
& to write about the continent of Lemuria this answer would be much longer,. Please search in google for lemuria & see,.
Hope you will understand. Thnks for your reply anyway. & why don’t you singn in so we can discuss this further if you have further questions regarding the editing I did.
amodha 11:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RE : Ravana a Buddhist?? 

message: :"""Sri Lanka possesses a written history """"
:possesses??. that is not how you write.
:"""The island presently known as 'Sri Lanka' was originally known as ‘Simhale’ or 'Heladiva' ('the island of the Hela(Comprising of naaga, yaksha, deva & raksha tribes) people') for over 30 millenia.""""
:sri lanka known as?? is supposed be in the names of sri lanka. the current name of the country is sri lanka use that only. if you want to use 'Heladiva' or anything else amend the constitution.
:"""leaf writings (‘Hela Atuva’"""
:provide proof that leaves more than 2500 years old have survived to today.this section is about the pre-history of sri lanka. do you have any prehistorical (‘sel lipi’), leaf writings (‘Hela Atuva’)??
:"""Sri Lanka possesses a written history of over 2,500 years and an unwritten history of over 125,000 years attested to by archaeological ruins and other evidence, of """
:so people are supposed to guess in a encyclopedia??
:BP here BP there is it supposed to blood pressure??, use the standard way
:"""There is secure evidence of settlements ""
: secure? do you have bonds?? is that a sentences ??, write proper sentences 
:"""Several minute granite tools of about 4 centimeters in length, earthenware and remnants of charred timber, & clay coffins that date back to the Stone Age man Mesolithic Man who lived 8000 years ago have been discovered during recent excavations around a cave at Varana Raja Maha vihara & also in Kalatuwawa area."""
:"clay burial pots" - use proper words. double man?? your source??
:"""Studies using the ground-breaking technique of dental morphological analysis has clearly indicated that skeletal remains at Pomparippu (who probably lived around 500-1000 BC) and the Austro-Asiatic people of Eastern and North Eastern Indian Indus Valley Civilisation of Harappa clearly indicate they possessed dental traits much more similar to Sinhalese, which is completely different from the Dravidian people in southern India. And its also noteworthy that veddas ( decendants of yaksha tribes ) teeth bear a closer resemblance to that of Balangoda Man. 
:Another important conclusion from this dental morphological analysis, is that those communities of Balangoda Man lived in Sri Lanka less than 10,000 years ago possessed different dental morphological traits than contemporary Indian groups. This indicates that although the two countries were then probably connected by the land link known as Adam's Bridge, the gene flow between its peoples even during that period was not significant."""
:i read the pdf you provided and it does not suppoer what you write here
:again you are coping and pasting
:ravana is a buddhist??
:read the ramayana please
:"""The earliest chronicles The Dipavamsa and Mahavamsa say that, before the migration of the Indo-Aryans, tribes of naaga, yaksha, deva & raksha inhabited the island. They are said to have lived in highly developed urban areas in all regions of the country."""
:provide proof that they lived in all regions of the country
:PLEASE DONT COPY&PASTE IT IS ILLEGAL. rearanging a few words is not enough
:lastly cite your sources and add all you want.
After you have finished editing please post it here, so we can find if there are any errors or omissions & other users can give their feedback. after that you can post it on the article. 
Reply ----------------------
:"""Sri Lanka possesses a written history """"
:possesses??. that is not how you write.
Then how do you write, there is nothing wrong in writing a country or somebody "pessesses a history", It has been used in various instances & it is not wrong. Just dont try to act smart.
:"""The island presently known as 'Sri Lanka' was originally known as ‘Simhale’ or 'Heladiva' ('the island of the Hela(Comprising of naaga, yaksha, deva & raksha tribes) people') for over 30 millenia.""""
:sri lanka known as?? is supposed be in the names of sri lanka. the current name of the country is sri lanka use that only. if you want to use 'Heladiva' or anything else amend the constitution.
There is no need to amend the constitution to mention that the country was called Heladiva previously. I told you this before too & I am repeating that Sri lanka has been mentioned as "Heladiva" in the agreement signed by the udarada rulers & the British government when the Island was handed over to them in 1815. & I recon it is important to mention that when talking about its prehistoric era its unique language, its unique values and its unique traditions.
:"""leaf writings (‘Hela Atuva’"""
:provide proof that leaves more than 2500 years old have survived to today.this section is about the pre-history of sri lanka. do you have any prehistorical (‘sel lipi’), leaf writings (‘Hela Atuva’)??
Well (sel lipi) - anuradhapura vishva chakraya, kuveni naga pokuna, mathale kuveni maligaya, kaleniya vibheshana devalaya, are some few places you can find prehistoric sel lipi
(hela atuwa) as I stated before they do not necesarily have to be older than 2500 years to prove the prehistory,. you can read what is sated in them about the prehistoric times.I've discribed it in a previous reply.
:"""Sri Lanka possesses a written history of over 2,500 years and an unwritten history of over 125,000 years attested to by archaeological ruins and other evidence, of """
:so people are supposed to guess in a encyclopedia??
Done,. cleared it.
:"""Several minute granite tools of about 4 centimeters in length, earthenware and remnants of charred timber, & clay coffins that date back to the Stone Age man Mesolithic Man who lived 8000 years ago have been discovered during recent excavations around a cave at Varana Raja Maha vihara & also in Kalatuwawa area."""
:"clay burial pots" - use proper words. double man?? your source??
Yes it is clay burial pots. That is the proper word used for them. 
:"""Studies using the ground-breaking technique of dental morphological analysis has clearly indicated that skeletal remains at Pomparippu (who probably lived around 500-1000 BC) and the Austro-Asiatic people of Eastern and North Eastern Indian Indus Valley Civilisation of Harappa clearly indicate they possessed dental traits much more similar to Sinhalese, which is completely different from the Dravidian people in southern India. And its also noteworthy that veddas ( decendants of yaksha tribes ) teeth bear a closer resemblance to that of Balangoda Man. 
:Another important conclusion from this dental morphological analysis, is that those communities of Balangoda Man lived in Sri Lanka less than 10,000 years ago possessed different dental morphological traits than contemporary Indian groups. This indicates that although the two countries were then probably connected by the land link known as Adam's Bridge, the gene flow between its peoples even during that period was not significant."""
:i read the pdf you provided and it does not suppoer what you write here
:ravana is a buddhist??
:read the ramayana please
I've answered this previously.
:"""The earliest chronicles The Dipavamsa and Mahavamsa, say that, before the migration of the Indo-Aryans, tribes of naaga, yaksha, deva & raksha inhabited the island. They are said to have lived in highly developed urban areas in all regions of the country."""
:provide proof that they lived in all regions of the country
Proof is provided in the article
Ramayana provides many cities of yaksha tribes, kalaniya, central provinces arround hortain plains, ritigala. Kuveni ( yaksha ) stories - mannarama, anuradhapuraya, mathale.  
And also as I have stated in the paragraph, in Dipavamsa and Mahavamsa If you have ever read them you will know about the nagadeepa (naga kings chulodara & mahodara), kalaniya (naga King Maniakkhika),ravana related names in horton plains,  katharagama (mahasen),Ravana, Bali, Taraka, Hiranya Kashyapa etc.... Great civilization has developed at the cities of  Mannar, Trincomalee, Anuradhapura, Tissamaharama, Kelaniya Digamadulla, Kalpitiya, Nagadeepa, Matale and Lankapura and Bintenna even before the arrival of king Vijaya. These are also proved by archiological evidence, pahatharata & udarata dance rituals & most importantly forklore.
Then recent excavations of balangoda man in various places arround the Island. 
How many do I have to provide as such. Dont you know atleast a little bit of history.
:BP here BP there is it supposed to blood pressure??, use the standard way
BP is the standard way of saying the Conventional radiocarbon ages (BP. Thus it is standard.
:"""There is secure evidence of settlements ""
: secure? do you have bonds?? is that a sentences ??, write proper sentences 
Tell me the reason why you object to call the evidence secure ?. Anyway I'll delete the word secure till you give a reason.
:PLEASE DONT COPY&PASTE IT IS ILLEGAL. rearanging a few words is not enough
OK
:lastly cite your sources and add all you want.
After you have finished editing please post it here, so we can find if there are any errors or omissions & other users can give their feedback. after that you can post it on the article.
amodha 12:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  reply to amodha 

message: I would like to point you both to the addition I have made to Ahmoda's Talk page.
I can see that feelings are running high here, but would like to make the following comments.
*Nobody's spelling and grammar are perfect. I can see several mistakes in both of your edits and additions to the talk page.
*There's no need to be personally offensive, you are both trying to improve the page's contents and are thus working towards the same goal.
*I feel that before you both make changes forwards and backwards, you ought to consult other users of Wikipedia as to the veracity and need of your changes. Let this be an area for discussion amongst several users so that we can get a larger consensus on how this page ought to be constructed.
*Please don't make this into a frozen page to which no-one can make additions or edits.
*Please sign your comments on the talk page by using the signature button provided above the editing window.
Thank you. --Brerbunny 00:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please refer to Ahmoda's Talk page 

message: Recently, user Brerbunny requests assistance from Mediation Cabal. Can both users list things they want to change about this article? Thanks. Olorin28 00:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediation Cabal 

message: Does anyone know how much money Sri Lanka makes because of gemstone exports (if they do at all?)? I'm pretty sure they make quite a bit because of this. Evan Robidoux 00:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy of Sri Lanka 

message: Saying the Mahavansa and the Deepavansa are accurate historical records of the island is like saying the Bible is an accurate historical record of the middle east, or calling the Mahabharata an accurate historical record of India. The Mahavansa is full of holes and political propaganda (biased towards whoever was supporting the monks writing it).
I agree the Mahavansa did comment a lot on what was going on at that point but it's just not reliable as a record. Like a thousand years from now, do you think they Daily News archives will be an accurate record od what's going on now? It's full of bias. And that's a newspaper, which is supposed to be accurate and unbiased!
My point being, Mahavansa should not be hyped. It's very important that we have a document that claims to be a 2000 year written history, but it's just not verifiable. I added a section in history called written history and put it in there along with with Ramayana and the Mahabaratha.
Morquendi 08:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mahavansa is not history

message: I am going to summerise the history section in the main Sri Lanka page as there is now a Sri Lankan History Page.
Morquendi 07:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: summerising history

message: I have cut down the history segment in the Sri Lanka main page drastically. IMHO there was a lot of stuff in there that should have gone into the politics section or the history main page.
Morquendi 17:57, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: history summerised

message: Nothing to do with personal preferences, it DID used to be called "Sinhathweepaya". Remove it if you want.
:I really don't think protests about the name change are relevant here. It seams out of place. The name section should be mainly focus on what Sri Lanka used to be called and what it's called now. So I'm removing that bit of text.--snowolfd4 22:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Island Names

message: New year thoughts from Canada to Sri Lanka . . . with love, and wishes for a land that shall be free, peaceful, prosperous and trilingual!
Credmond 13:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Happy new year

message: With Bangladesh all set to be the latest featured article, it leaves only Sri Lanka as the last major country in South Asia that needs to be worked on. Anyone interested? =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:37, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can guide you with the rules and suggest sources if you're interested in a complete rewrite of the article. A Sinhalese might be a problem, but we can always have a workaround. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

text: It won't lost it. The nomination was made in bad faith and could have easily been addressed by a message on the talk page. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured article?