Talk:Legion of Doom (hacker group)

message: This really doesn't read like an encyclopedic article. It's full of dramatic language, lacks citations and has problems with both tone and an apparent lack of a neutral, factual point of view. Antonine (talk) 12:46, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this is 6 years old but my god I can’t read this article and the voice it is in. 100.34.214.6 (talk) 03:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone/Neutrality Issues 

message: Compu-phreak is absent from this list.  He should most definitely be listed, as he was a very early member from Florida.  I was introduced to both he and Marauder (separately) at around the same time, in the early 1980's, by phone.  They had both taken an interest in the Long Island, NY, BBS scene, of which I was a part (which was also where some of the first official and sponsored LOD BBSes were located).  There were others I knew through Compu-Phreak who were active in the Florida phreak scene, such as Dr. Nibblemaster.  We all spoke frequently.  I don't remember if he was in LOD or LOH for a time (or maybe BSF), but I would tend to think so.
Also concerning Compu-phreak, he almost took over as sysop of Catch-22 (LOD's main BBS for a time, located in Massachusetts) when Silver Spy took the BBS down to go to college.  Compu-Phreak and I 3-way-called Silver Spy with the idea, since it was such a great BBS (the login sequence was disguised as a VAX cluster), and it had very high-quality content and discussions.  It would also turn out to be one of the last BBSes where original LOD members were actively posting.  For reasons I can't recall, it never came to be.
As far as Dead Lord and Lord Digital, Bill from RNOC introduced them into LOD at a time when Lex was "estranged" and somewhat less active, and RNOC was de facto leader for a time.  They were both active members of the NYC hack/phreak scene going back to the old TAP meetings.  They also started Mindvox in the early 90's, which was my very first job as sysadmin.
If the gentleman below is in fact Lucifer 666, what's up.  You're also missing from this latest list for some reason.  I remember speaking with you on 3-way years ago with RNOC.  So many stories, so little time.
Phiber Optik
Thanks Mark, I just added myself.  By the way, sadly, Dr. NibbleMaster passed away last year.  Vinny actually made me aware of it.  Very sad.
- Chuck Poole aka CompuPhreak  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckpoole (talk • contribs) 13:17, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  membership 

message: I believe Phiber Optik and Dead Lord were in LOD.   Dead Lord was a well known hacker/phreak from the 1980's...I don't know why you would say he wasn't.sssssssssssssssssssssssdfasdfsdfsf
I think Lex is the end authority on who was/wasn't.   We really need to ask him if there is a discrepency.   I don't know if I can reach him, probably not. 
L666
Edit: You can reach him easily. Just look for Vincent Gelormine (middle name Louis) in Florida. He runs a couple websites and startups. Also, He goes absolutely insane when you call him Lex on the phone or in person because he's still a paranoid. I highly suggest you partake, if you have the means.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.159.189 (talk) 08:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  membership 

message: There's really no need for "hacking" to be capitalized in the article's name.  I'll change it back later.  --Myles Long 04:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  article name 

message: Phiber Optik, Lord Digital, and Dead Lord were never in LOD.  Dead Lord wasn't even a hacker or a phreak.
- Phiber was at the very end, when Goggans was running most of the group. About that time, Mark was accused of giving LOD resources/mentoring Julio and John Lee.
All info I took is available on the internet. Lord Digital and Dead Lord are both listed as members by the group's founder Lex Luthor, in Computer Underground Digest. They're listed the same way in members of LOD published in CUD issues and Mindvox logs. Also where LODCOM was selling those history of underground BBS buffers. 
Computer underground Digest Sun May 30 1993 Volume 5 : Issue 39 ISSN 1004-042X
http://www.skepticfiles.org/hacker/cud539.htm
Computer underground Digest Sun Aug 22 1993 Volume 5 : Issue 64 ISSN 1004-042X
http://www.skepticfiles.org/hacker/cud564.htm
Lord Digital is also intro'd as a LOD member in his Phrack Profile which has the intro by Erik Bloodaxe in a issue where Chris Goggans is the editor of Phrack.
I have no idea if Phiber Optik was ever a member or not, but at least two books seem to think so (Bruce Sterling's Hacker Crackdown and Joshua Quittner's Masters of deception) and out of all the things Chris Goggans has said about Abene, he's never said he was not a LOD member.
- Chris also says it wasn't Minor Threat in that video he has of people breaking into a Central Office and riding around in the tape cart. Chris says a lot of things.
6Akira7 01:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  membership 

message: The question I have is, were Doc Holiday and Malefactor members of LOD? Phiber, Digital and Dead are missing in some of the official lists, but they appear in the 1990s and are validated by Lex and Bloodaxe, with Phiber I don't know but out of everything I've read about the great hacker war, there isn't anyone who has ever said Phiber wasn't a member. The peeps in Comsec don't appear anywhere in anything though.
- Scott Chasin (Holiday) was in HFC as a joke, Kenyon Shulman (Malefactor)was never in LOD, but they were both "In the scene" and hung out with Goggans, who was the only one of Comsec that was in LOD/H.
- Fun fact: Kenyon Shulman is Dr. Carolyn Farb's son. Also, he's dead.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.159.189 (talk) 17:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comsec? 

message: Compressed opening paragraphs, '30-35 members' is redundant, since the article lists all members by name. Adding knights of shadow reference, instead of 'group lex was a former member of'.
I can find nothing about "sundry" being in LOD anywhere online. I've left it alone for now, but it looks like another person editing themselves into LOD. Does "Michael Xavier - Solomon Grundy, Sundry" exist anywhere in relation to LOD the hacking group (not the comics ;-)? I can't find it using google or yahoo or any statement ever made by any of LOD's members.
Everything I know about LOD is from online documents, there were some LOD members that were missed and then edited into the article (control c), but Control C appears in at least some of the LOD listings. Was "Sundry" in LOD?
Lex Luthor signing off using KOS first, followed by LOD: 
http://www.textfiles.com/hacking/hackcos.txt
6Akira7 18:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lex's former group and Sundry? 

message: 209.6.132.82 19:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabas motivations - just opinion 

message: 209.6.132.82 19:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, your memory is absolutely correct.  There was no LOD logo.  If any logo were used for this article, it should be a graphic of "$LOD$" or "LOD/H".  Unless there are any objections, I intend to remove this logo.  To my knowledge, it has no historical significance, and worse, may confuse the reader.   Any objections to removing the logo? Sliver 14:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo? 

message: 71.108.53.182 23:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I need a FE hack 

message: The article is internally inconsistent.
The first sentence of the article says that the group was active "from the 1980s to the late 1990s and early 2000."
The sidebar says the group's "extinction" was in 1990.
Which is correct?  108.64.118.44 (talk) 05:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was the group active?