Talk:Jacob Schiff

message: There is a lot of conspiracy nonsense about the International Jewish Bankers plot on the web. Could we please have a definite answer to the above question which does not come from these people and their fevered imaginations. Did Schiff loan money to the Bolsheviks, or did he not?
It would also be interesting to know if he engaged with the Kerensky government or not. But we should have a reliable source for a simple yes or no answer, whatever various nuts like to make of it. 76.186.222.203 (talk) 01:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did he give money to Lenin? 

message: If somebody without analytical or critical faculties read this page they'd walk away not realising that this chap basically funded several sides in World War One. He was a war profiteer, and thousands of Jews died to realise his vision of an Israeli state (including my own great grandmother). Yet this article makes it sound as if he is one step short of being cannonised. Lies and more lies.
WhyLie? 11:32, 12 March 2008 (ET)
I don't know much about Jacob Schiff, but I plan to learn more. I therefore cannot yet argue with the factual content of this article, but the language is blatantly biased.
To call Schiff a traitor to America and an anti-Semite within the first paragraph, when he helped fund Japan's war against the anti-Semitic tsars who allowed & encouraged pogroms is just inappropriate, if not entirely inaccurate. I intend to do all I can to change the language of this article, if not the 'facts', to something more objective.
LordAmeth 13:47, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Utter Nonsense 

message: Seems more like a defense of him, rather than an encyclopediac statement of facts.  Chad Hennings 22:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is due in part to the fact that the previous version of the article was wholly factually untrue, and I was trying to rewrite from that. It is also due to the fact that the allegations often made against him are so absurd as to deserve this sort of treatment. If there is anything I've written which you feel is untrue, feel free to change it. As long as you do not change the language so that it lends credence to the false accusations of conspiracy theories... LordAmeth 22:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conspiracy section needs to be rewritten? 

message: "helped finance, among many other things, the Russian Revolution of 1917": is there a proof/citation for that anywhere?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notkidding (talk • contribs) 08:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "helped finance Russian Revolution of 1917"? 

message: This article's edit history reveals that this specific section has attracted interest across the span of years since it was created in 2005.  The current text encompasses collaborative, constructive edits, e.g., 
* 14 March 2005 --  diff (Lord Ameth)
* 15 March 2006 --  diff (Rande M Sefowt)
* 3 November 2006 --  diff (Gkklein) 
* 5 November 2006 --  diff (Lord Ameth)
* 29 September 2007 --   diff (199.4.216.68)
* 27 January 2008 -- diff (128.36.80.189)
* 28 August 2008 --  diff (74.14.98.45)
* 18 October 2008 --  diff] (Tenmei)
During this same period, a number of unhelpful edits were reverted.  More work will improve this section. --Tenmei (talk) 21:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schiff in conspiracy and fiction 

message: The German Historical Institute in Washington, DC has published a short biographical article on Jacob Schiff that can be found here:
http://www.immigrantentrepreneurship.org/entry.php?rec=41
Immigrantentrep (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Source 

message: Schiff was born in 1847 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, to Moses and Clara (née Niederhofheim) Schiff, members of a distinguished Ashkenazi Jewish rabbinical family that traced its lineage in Frankfurt back to 1370. His father, Moses Schiff, was a broker for the Rothschilds.
That reference seems to be broken, also wouldn't be proper to cite the original source, instead of another encyclopedia?Lbertolotti (talk) 23:36, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moses Schiff and Rothschild family 

message: Whether Mr. Schiff was a "war profiteer" or not (as this article formerly stated) is debatable at best, and inflamatory language unworthy of an encyclopedic artice.  What is not debatable, however, is that he was a major lender to the Japanese side in the Russo-Japanese War and therefore doesn't belong in the category Jewish pacifists category, even if he later argued against pursuing World War I all the way to a victorious conclusion for the Allies.  2600:1004:B144:5853:1D93:1DDA:5297:66FC (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong category 

message: I was just wondering about sources since I'm curious to read more, seems much is unsourced? Or how does it work?
One example:
"During World War I, Schiff urged U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and other Allied statesmen to end the war as quickly as possible, even without an Allied victory. He feared for the lives of his family, back in Germany, but also for the future of his adopted land. He arranged loans to France and other nations for humanitarian purposes, and spoke out against submarine warfare."
But no source seems to be listed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chronicler87 (talk • contribs) 06:47, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: He was inspired?!By God?! 2001:268:924E:53B9:94D3:CF3:3798:123D (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jacob Henry Schiff