Talk:Pele (deity)

message: :I disagree that the subject of this article is the most common usage of the term Pele. Based on Google searching and reviewing incoming links to Pele, I think it's more likely that most people searching for "Pele" are looking for the footballer, and Pele should accordingly redirect to Pelé. If it's true that (mythology) is an inaccurate parenthetical qualifier, I support moving Pele (mythology) to a more appropriate title, such as Pele (goddess) or Pele (deity). --Muchness 21:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd thought of Pele (deity) before coming here, and would support that as the best compromise, with Pele remaining as a disambiguator. --DeLarge 22:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contesting that the word Pele is more associated with the goddess than the footballer

message: It should be mentioned that its customary to placate Pele a bottle of gin, thrown into the volcano or onto a lava flow BethEnd 20:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That unfortunate "custom" was due to George Lycurgus. Might include it here, since I did have a source. Of course prohibited by park officials. W Nowicki (talk) 18:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Also Vaccinium reticulatum berries Dysmorodrepanis 21:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gin

message: What's with the legend in Kalakaua's collection, about Pele, Halema'uma'u, the ama'uma'u fern and Kamapua'a? Seems to be localized on the Big Island, explaining the Halema'uma'u etymology. Dysmorodrepanis 21:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kalakaua legend?

message: I have completely deleted text plagarized from Coffee Times, incorporated wholesale on February, 2008. And how does a commercial site for coffee become a citable ref for encyclopedia article, anyway? 71.234.215.133 (talk) 02:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Beware about this: it may be that the Coffee Times plagiarized from Wikipedia, and not the other way around. This happens more often than you'd think. I'll look into it if you want. --NellieBly (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And I take that back: it's a copyvio plain and simple. Good catch, 71.234.215.133! --NellieBly (talk) 02:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Agreed! It's borderline profane in a theological sense, given that people actually do still worship Pele. --NellieBly (talk) 02:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't read the article closely and you may be right about its content, but in general the author of the article Betty Fullard-Leo is a respected journalist and this newspaper happens to put out fairly decent work. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Makana Chai (talk) 08:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagarized 

message: I've read the reference given for this, although in scanned form – both on Google and Sacred Texts – and can't find the name "Noil" in it anywhere. It doesn't sound particularly Hawaiian either. The love of her life, whose story takes up much of the book, is Lohiau, the chief of Kaua‘i, although she has other husbands and dalliances. I'm changing it to "a young chief named Lohiau," since that at least appears in the text and fits the context of the sentence. Lee-Anne (talk) 07:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Young man named Noil 

message: Is there a counterpart of Pele in other Polynesian cultures? Other Polynesian had volcanoes, you don't here about them much, but was there a Tahitian Pele or a Samoan Pele or a Marquesan Pele?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counterparts in Polynesia 

message: I removed "Another noteworthy artist who has rendered a depiction of pele is Manupupule. One such depiction is linked here. Pele Hawaiian Volcano Goddess" for several reasons. For one thing I don't see how it has to do with "historical times," also a few internet searches that resulted in little to no information about Manupupule makes me question their noteworthiness.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.76.35 (talk) 07:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical times 

message: I removed this claim:
:Although Pele’s legend was long ago, many visitors to the volcanoes on the Island of Hawai’i report seeing a woman resembling Pele or one of her close followers.Pele from Goddesses and Heroines Notes from Hrana, Text from Patricia Monaghan Published by Llewellyn , Copyright 1997. Retrieved on 24 October 2012.
"Many" is not what the referenced source says, and it's unclear whether this claim is actually true or is merely a polite fiction.  It would be useful to cite actual reports and quantify more precisely. -- Beland (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sightings 

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message: Added a section dedicated to chants but block quote formatting puts the English translation right after the lines of the chant instead of spaced out in two blocks side by side, will try to get the formatting fixed.
Marshaho808 (talk) 09:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chants 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for File:The goddess pele by arthur johnsen.jpg

message: For some reason I keep seeing some sources connect Pele and actually geology.
Like how Pele is the creator of islands.
And some scholars mention how stories about her are anthropomorphized versions of actual geological events.
I have seen TED mention this.
I think something like this should be mentioned.
(Sorry if what I’m saying sounds vague) CycoMa (talk) 11:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , you would have to find and provide reliable sources (such as TED talk) that mention this, in order for it to be added to Wikipedia. Softlavender (talk) 02:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pele and science