Template talk:R from surname

message: I will momentarily add :Category:Surnames to this template so that this category is expanded by the surname set represented by use of this redirect template.  If you have objections and would like to discuss this change, please revert my change and initiate a discussion here.  Regards. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This change has been undone after discussion with User:Brewcrewer who is working hard on sub-categorizing surnames. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category Surnames

message: One could add a parameter to the template like "ori" or "lang" (for "origin" and "language" respectively) that would auto-sub-categorize surnames to particular categories.
 Present form:  => :Category:Surnames
 Future form:  => :Category:African surnames
The best way to implement might be to allow any value for the "ori" parameter and include available term-category mappings in the documentation.  If a term is used for the parameter that is not recognized, the categorization would default to :Category:Surnames; but if a new category were created with a new term-category mapping that is used as a parameter value, the category would autopopulate.  For instance, if "ori=Burmese" does not have a corresponding :Category:Burmese surnames, a tagged surname would end up in :Category:Surnames, but when :Category:Burmese surnames is created, it would autopopulate with the so-tagged surnames.
I'm only a brown-belt at template-smithing, so if this is a direction that would be desirable to go, I'll need some time to learn some of the subtler syntax of templates.
--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Using the template to assist sub-categorization

message: I'm not sure how labels like "Japanese surname", "African surname" and "Czech surname" would be equally well handled by a common parameter.  For instance, using "national origin" would not be good for African or Czech (the first is a continent, the second a former nation, Czechoslovakia).  One could go with "geographical origin" - that might work across the board.  "Ethnic origin" would be problematic - that would work for Japanese, but not for African (tremendous variety of ethnicities) and maybe not for Czech (not familiar enough with European ethnography to say). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Issue regarding subcategory class labels

message: *Template:R from sort name
</blockquote>
-- OlEnglish (Talk) 21:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put in a doc subpage so you can edit this yourself. Regards, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: Folks have been adding the  template after this template, or adding the category directly. Please restore the former use of this category, so that redirects will be found by folks looking in the  Surnames category for similar names.
After existing category:
 [[Category:Redirects from surnames| ]]
 [[Category:Surnames| R from surname]]
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there was no opposition to this suggestion so I have implemented it as requested. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But there are often already articles on the surnames themselves or disambiguation pages for people with the surname. I don't think :Category:Surnames should be added to the redirects. McLerristarr / Mclay1 15:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think all that's necessary to do is to just add :Category:Redirects from surnames as a subcategory of :Category:Surnames. -- œ™ 15:28, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Surnames 

message: Two points:
*All that are needed are one or two shortcuts unless more existing shortcuts are found.  The procedure is, if one wants to include new shortcuts, they should first be created and only then they are added to the documentation page.  Otherwise, they will show as  and may confuse other contributors.
*There are good reasons to show all existing redirects in the Redirects section.  They are then available for use by anyone who may want to use them.  Also, if an administrator does not want so many redirects and wants to delete some of them, they have a list to use for that work. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 19:29, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirects 

message: Remove the duplicate full stop at the end of "It is used because Wikipedia has only one article about a person with this surname, or because one individual is the most likely topic sought by this surname (other persons who share this name might be listed at an anthroponymy article or at the end of a disambiguation page)..". Geolodus (talk) 06:30, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: — xaosflux Talk 13:22, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 25 July 2019