Talk:4Kids Entertainment/Archive 2

message: I just heard that 4kids is cancelling One Piece. Nauto 01:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, as much as I would like this news to be true, a forum post of a guy claiming to have gotten an email is not a reliable source.--130.156.198.72 21:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not just one person, multiple people have sent letters to 4Kids and gotten the same responce. (Justyn 21:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a link?--69.141.190.230 04:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, two.(Justyn 07:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They both cite the same forum post as their source.--69.141.190.230 15:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My point. I have decided to just call it hiatus for now unless 4Kids sends out a press release or removes it from their website (they did remove Pokémon as soon as they lost it). Any more attempts to say it is officially cancelled will be treated as vandalism. Many people can claim they have gotten e-mails, but that's still original research, especially when so many people want 4Kids to stop dubbing. News probably got out and as a chain of people who want to believe it's true, it's spreading. Matty-chan 02:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Piece cancelled. 

message: Someone's vulgarised the title...but nevertheless, it seems to suit them more than "4Kids".Centurion Ry 19:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hahaha, title vandalism 

message: Okay, I spent my New Year's Eve going through that section with a fine-toothed comb.  First of all, I don't have a hat in this arena, so I really don't care either way about this topic.  However, you will note that I actually did not remove very much material - the majority of what was removed generally became redundant when I tightened the organization and wording.  Anyways, my major changes are summarized below:
* Reorganized the entire section, primarily for logical reasons, but also to improve readability.
* Changed formatting, puncutation, and grammar to comply with Wikipedia standards.
* Created minor edits for tone in several places, added explanatory material in others.
* Expanded the list of "typical edits" based on a reading of several related articles.
* Attempted to produce a more neutral, and encyclopedic tone in the section
* Deleted a largely inconsequential, or unrelated, discussion of manga reading habits at the end of the article, in the last section
* Removed the "neutrality" and "clean-up" flags.  Feel free to replace these if you feel this was premature.  I noticed this article does not get a lot of traffic, so I opted to remove them now, rather than later.
However, in the course of editing, I noticed that there remain several outstanding issues.
* Insufficient sourcing.  The article appears well-sourced, but it does not run deep.  Most of these sources are from one or two interviews.  More background material needs to be developed.
* Lacks scholarly opinion.  Althought I strove to eliminate them, there remains an "opinion" section which requires an authoritative source for the viewpoint.  In fact, this whole section lacks perspective, but (as I mentioned) I am not familiar enough with the subject material to do more than a relatively superficial neutrality edit.
*Final section is confusing.  It is not apparent that this constitutes a major scandal at all.  Frankly, it should either be removed or sources with more perspective need to be produced.  I attempted to trim it down to the very meat of the point made, but unless this is expanded this article will never reach a high-class rating.
Anyways, it was a good experience editing this, and I would definitely appreciate any and all feedback.  Haemo 09:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the remaining link to the VG Cats strip since webcomics are not reliable sources. Perhaps if the section was making a direct reference to that strip, it would have been justifiable. But to use it to back up a vaguely worded statement about critics' views isn't acceptable. --TheFarix (Talk) 19:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I agree with this edit.  When I was re-working the original pages, I noticed it and thought it was odd.  However, I don't really know anything about VG Cats, so I thought I'd give them a benefit of a doubt.  Upon re-reading the standards, though, it appears that it is not reliable, and I strongly support this.  --Haemo 22:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism Section

message: :I've removed the remaining link to the VG Cats strip since webcomics are not reliable sources. Perhaps if the section was making a direct reference to that strip, it would have been justifiable. But to use it to back up a vaguely worded statement about critics' views isn't acceptable. --TheFarix (Talk) 19:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree with this edit.  When I was re-working the original pages, I noticed it and thought it was odd.  However, I don't really know anything about VG Cats, so I thought I'd give them a benefit of a doubt.  Upon re-reading the standards, though, it appears that it is not reliable, and I strongly support this.  --Haemo 22:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VG Cats link

message: I've updated all of the lists, trimmed down some material, merged others.  Very little information was lost, just moved around.  All of the sections modified conform to WP:STYLE, to the best of my knowledge, and there are only a few more things to do before this article is probably ready to be nominated for an improvement in class:
*Organize the corporate material more properly.  4Kids is a large company, and has many branches.  Currently, the "Leadership" section is floating at the end of the article and lacks sources.  Add these.  Any input on where this should go would be appreciated.
*Trim/reorganize the links at the bottom.  These are coming close to conflicting with WP:NPOV, and they can probably be integrated into the criticism section without pause - especially the "selected critism" and "selected edits".  These really should go.  Okay, I've killed these.  The criticism section definitely doesn't meet NPOV requirements for inclusion - the sentiment is already reflected in the criticism section, and unless we can find some professional and authoritative links for criticism, I don't think these should be re-added.  I also killed a non-functional link, for obvious reasons.  Still need to figure out what to do with the "edits" links.
*I remain skeptical about the noteriety of the "Kids don't read" fiasco, and am probably could to remove it unless better documentation can be found, or something strongly objects.  Upon further research, this appears notable.  I will leave it in - but it really should be moved to Alfred R. Kahn, since it has more to do with him, than it has to do with 4Kids.  However, since that page is basically contentless, I will leave it here for now.
*Fix the "awards" section - it too, seems random.  I am considering merging the leadership and awards section together, since they appear to have considerable overlap at this point in time.    I have deleted this section, and moved it to Alfred R. Kahn instead.  That article needs some TLC, but it's really not relevant for 4Kids Entertainment.
*FIND MORE, AND BETTER SOURCES.  This is, by far, this article's weakest point at this time.  We need to source our information properly, and use a variety of sources - the Anime News Network cannot comprise 3/4's of our links.
Cheers, and happy editing.  --Haemo 10:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, ANN is actually considered fairly reliable as a source for anime-related things, but I do get what you're saying. 4.238.9.228 16:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Second major update

message: This is just a note - the last revision of the criticism simply reverted all of the material that I had specifically edited down.  I thought, and no one had disputed, that I had retained all of the substantive content in that section, while still reducing either POV material, or simply non-neutral tone (either by actual wording, or surplus detail).  Please, do not revert sections like that without discussing it - the "expansion", in my opinion, did not add anything to the article, while seriously compromising both the technical quality and the overal neutrality of the article as a whole.  Again, please do not delete content without discussing it here.  --Haemo 04:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm - I believe the current edit, as it currently stands, more accurately than the previous revision did.  Mostly, in re-editing the article, I focused on providing a focus for each of the claims - rather than simply provided a textual "list" of comments by different parties.  I removed very little material - and what I did remove, mostly was done so because it had become redundant, or unrelated.  Frankly, I'm not a fan of anime or manga - I don't watch/read either - and began editing this article solely because it needed clean-up.  I believe the typical edits, as described, are both fair and balanced - and have been described, as such by the management at 4Kids.  However, I understand your criticism, and am editing them to remove the implication that 4Kids is directly involved in them - since it should be apparent, by context, and thus repeated mentions could be construed as being biased.  Thanks for your comments, though - I very much enjoy feedback, and discussion, on what is being presented.  I always felt the "edits" section was somewhat weaker than the rest, and am glad to hear confirmation on it.  --Haemo 06:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Expanding" the Criticism section

message: Is this true?--Hailey 02:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unbelievably, yes, it is.  You can check it out here.  Look under properties.  They're releasing toys based on the RAF, and I think cute cat photos with the Cat Fanciers, or something.  --Haemo 04:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cat Fanicer's Socitey and the RAF? 

message: How do I can contact 4 kids entertainment so that I can get a response from what 4 kids email easier? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shirleybiscuit (talk • contribs) 03:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could go to http://www.4kidsentertainment.com/home/home.php and use the contact information there.--68.44.84.120 05:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: They're not very helpful.  I asked a week or so ago if they had any information about their CEO, so I could improve the article (and his), but they haven't replied.   --Haemo 07:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, under the web page titled "Leadership Team", they had this short bio of CEO Al Kahn:
Alfred R. Kahn is Chairman and CEO of 4Kids Entertainment, Inc. - a New York Stock Exchange-listed Company that is a global provider of children's entertainment and merchandise licensing.
Mr. Kahn joined Leisure Concepts, Inc. (predecessor to 4Kids Entertainment's licensing division) in 1988 and is the architect of its expansion into a vertically integrated group of companies collectively known as 4Kids Entertainment, Inc. Mr. Kahn is a leading figure in the licensing industry, responsible for many of its biggest hits, including Pokemon, Cabbage Patch Kids and Yu-Gi-Oh! Mr. Kahn's entrepreneurial insight and unique youth-oriented marketing strategies are the hallmarks of his corporate vision.
In 1992, Mr. Kahn added television production and distribution and media planning and buying to 4Kids Entertainment's licensing business by forming two subsidiaries: 4Kids Productions, Inc. and The Summit Media Group, Inc. In 2000, Mr. Kahn created 4Kids Technology, Inc. and Websites 4Kids, Inc. In January 2002, Mr. Kahn again expanded the scope of the Company by winning the bidding to lease Fox Broadcasting's Saturday morning children's block. The programming block, called the 4Kids TV, commenced with Fox's Fall 2002 schedule. With the additional hours of programming, the Company has become one of the largest suppliers of children's entertainment content to network television in the United States, with an average of 11 shows and 11 hours per week of programming in the 2002/2003 broadcast season. Also in 2002, Mr. Kahn added 4Kids Entertainment Home Video, Inc. and 4Kids Entertainment Music, Inc.
Mr. Kahn has created a fully integrated platform that positions 4Kids Entertainment to harness and reap the rewards of some of the most exciting children's entertainment in the world. Mr. Kahn is a pioneer in identifying trends in Japanese popular culture and adapting them to a global audience, which has led to many successes for the Company, including Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh!
A licensing and merchandising veteran with a strong retail background, Mr. Kahn was previously Executive Vice President of Marketing for Coleco Toys, where he is best known for acquiring the license and then mapping out the marketing strategy for the Cabbage Patch Kids. Mr. Kahn received his bachelor's degree from C.W. Post College.
I think that ought to be enough.--69.141.190.230 22:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I am aware of this source - it appears to be the only public biography.  However, it's not very good as a biography - it's a very nice corporate biography, but it basically ignores Mr Kahn outside of his professional life.  Furthermore, I'm not about to take 4Kids promotional material as encyclopedic content for this article.  --Haemo 00:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yeah there is a lot of marketing fluff in that, but you can pick out the factual stuff from it pretty easily.  Does Kahn do anything notable outside of his profession?--69.141.190.230 01:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, but how can we tell?  Furthermore, we have only even a corporate history for his time at 4Kids.  What else did he do?  Who knows!  If you feel you have enough info to do a good write, WP:BB!  --Haemo 05:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Sorry to ask this question but when you send a message to 4 kids entertainment how long does it take for them to respond because for me they didn't answer my question for a very long time when I send a message. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shirleybiscuit (talk • contribs) 23:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it would depend on who you ask, and what the content of your email was, and whether or not they want to answer.--69.242.35.210 00:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They still haven't replied to me, so frankly, don't hold your breath.  --Haemo 01:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could try a phonecall.--69.242.35.210 01:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Please stay on your long-distance phone-line while we put you on hold for a half hour, before spontaneously disconnecting you".  No, I don't think that's going to happen, hahah.  --Haemo 04:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I live in NY, which is where their headquarters is.  I could just go there on someone's behalf (if I can find it).--69.242.35.210 20:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Send them some petrol bombs, and when they get to hell, tell them to tell them that The Centurion sent them.Centurion Ry 18:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cartoons: Serious Business--69.242.35.210 21:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: What is Alfred R.Kahn 4 kids email address to contact him?Shirleybiscuit
:It isn't posted to the public, use the contact information that is given by their corporate website.  Also, stop asking making new headlines to ask the same question.--69.242.35.210 02:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: Why on properties that shows the cartoons they have on the 4kids website why is one piece remove on there?Shirleybiscuit
:Because that property is on hiatus.  --Haemo 04:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait... it's off the site? Then it is cancelled. Matty-chan 04:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: So the series hasn't actually been terminated by any television network.--69.242.35.210 03:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah but the US is going to run out of episodes when they air English episode 104. Matty-chan 06:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats assuming they don't dub any more episodes.  Currently they are not in the process of dubbing, but nearly every television production company takes breaks during the production of television series.  We don't have any indication that they don't plan to dub more in the future, and if the current batch of episodes were to show good ratings on Toonami then they undoubtedly will.--69.242.35.210 21:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, I never thought of it that way. So technically, saying it's cancelled is still original research. *moves back* Matty-chan 22:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I forgot about the website.  Nevermind--69.242.35.210 22:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  one piece question 

message: The show "Kappa Mikey" is listed as a production of 4Kids, but the show's own article says that it is produced by Animation Collective, while some of 4Kids' voice actors, primarily Dan Green, work on the program. Does that really warrant its inclusion in the list of 4Kids productions? LouisianaFan 04:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not just things they internally produce; it's material they produce, distribute, and license.  --Haemo 06:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kappa Mikey 

message: Just because it's an unusual case, can we include a blurb about a time 4Kids plagiarized a fan website for their own? :D I have photographic evidence. But it's probably not important enough I guess. But definitely funny. Ivyna J. Spyder 03:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No original research.  Unless you have notable and verifiable sources for this, it shouldn't be included.  --Haemo 03:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism? 

message: After discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007_January_25#Category:Actors_by_series, it was decided that :Category:4Kids cast members would be better presented as a list (i.e. ). Is anyone interested in doing this? Angus McLellan  (Talk) 17:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think 4kids has an in-house recording studio.  If that's the case, then they wouldn't really have a static cast of voice actors.--69.242.35.210 21:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:4Kids cast members

message: This article was my old stomping grounds, so I've decided to come back and clean it up.  When I left, it suffered from some serious undue weight issues, and was something of a general mess.  I've come back, and fixed it up - very little actual content has been removed; most was either condensed, or moved to a related page.  This version reflects an encyclopedic merit much more than then the previous - and it much less prone to POV vandalism.  --Haemo 08:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm back! 

message: I found these while working on Tokyo Mew Mew about 4kids' changes. I believe these can be used in this article instead, as I dont see a mention of them:
4kids orginally intending to release all their shows uncut: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2005-04-24/alfred-r-kahn
then they changed their minds: http://www.mewmewalliance.net/content/view/78/2/
THROUGH FIRE  JUSTICE IS SERVED! 21:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if that second source meets our reliable sourcing guidelines.  --Haemo 01:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Hi. I recently had an edit reverted. The edit in question was regarding the demographics of 4Kids TV, which does not aim toward the YA market obviously. I do not wish to trigger an "edit war", but I'd rather make a good negotiation over an apparently "misleading" sentence. For now I've reverted the sentence AGAIN, because "4Kids TV is aimed toward...young adults" simply does not make sense. --198.189.198.2 19:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, posted only a minute before I told you to take it to the talk page.  No matter.  I reverted your edit for the last time, and please leave it that way until the discussion here is complete.  You've provided no solid points as to why you should remove that phrase, and all you're running on is your own opinion, which is not a reliable source.  Also, the sentence is not misleading, as 4Kids programming is geared towards the 8-13-year-old market, if I'm not mistaken.  I think there are some who call children in their early to mid teens "young adults" these days.  But, as for this, please leave the article at the original version until a concensus is reached, mm'kay?  Lychosis T/C 19:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with you.  If you look up young adult on Wikipedia, it will say that it is between the ages of 18-25, while on google the definition is 16-25.  Jezebel Parks 20:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, considering they specifically in their market prospectus say that they're targeting more of their material towards the young adult market - typically, this means in the ill-defined area that includes teenagers and tweens - I think we should take them at their word.  --Haemo 22:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with Jezebel Parks about the definition of "young adult" and do agree on the "correct" definition of young adult. Therefore, I would like to remove the "young adult" part if I could, but I am not budging to edit until I see some agreements when I check back here later. I have good reason to question the inclusion of "young adult" in the sentence regarding 4Kids TV. Go to the actual 4Kids TV article, and it does not mention young adults anywhere. So why should this page regarding its parent company claim so? Besides, look carefully at the company's name: 4KIDS. Not 4teens as if it would be if aimed toward the YA market. Besides, I can tell you that the average 16-25 year old who has even heard of 4Kids Entertainment before might have contempt for it based on the "criticism and controversy" section of the 4Kids Entertainment Wikipedia article. Therefore, I would like to have the "young adult" part removed, as it clearly does not make sense, but for now I will not rush to edit it out because chances are it was included there for a reason. So far reading this talk page I am not thoroughly convinced that "young adult" should stay. I am giving it once last shot before I remove it. --Andrewlp1991 05:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just edited out "young adult" - but I hit Enter just before i was about to finish my edit reason, it was because the article for 4Kids TV does not say young adult. --198.189.198.2 17:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly agree, as I searched "young adults" on 4Kidsentertainment.com via google  and there was no mention of 4Kids actually intending to aim 4Kids TV toward the YA market, though "Young adults" is ocassionaly mentioned on their site in other contexts. --Andrewlp1991 17:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Majority of shows done by 4Kids are definitely aimed at the younger crowd. I don't have the time to look up the information, but I don't believe anything worse than Y7 is in their showcase. Goldy496 (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 4Kids TV and the YA market

message: I think we need to expect a rush of vandalism because of this. Worlder 23:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just keep watch, and if a wide level of vandalism occurs from multiple users, then be ready to take it to WP:AIV. I would keep watch myself, but I'm going to sleep in a short while. I'll keep watch when I do get back, though. :) --Dreaded Walrus  t c 23:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Aaand, it's been protected for two weeks, so you're safe. :) --Dreaded Walrus  t c 07:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However when the vandalism lifts, this article is going to be under even more attacks by those AnimeTojos! The good thing though is that if they vandalize enough within one timeframe we can call for indefinite semi-protection. Worlder 23:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

text: We're open for an attack quickly get an indefinte semiprotection. This page is low management it, doesn't require unregistered to contribute (in fact most of the unregisters are vandals to this page).Worlder 21:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I told you! The moment we lift semi-protection, those Otakus start flooding back in!Worlder 14:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See my response at the bottom of #Propose protection for article. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 00:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CW acquisition 

message: TGS = 4Kids: The Game Station (Fox)/CW = The CW 4Kids (The CW)
Well even though i've seen the edits that 4Kids have done to One Piece and the rants that followed on Youtube and other video-sharing sites, I might say that it's about time that TGS pulled the plug on its broadcast on Fox, even though 4Kids isn't gone completely since their other broadcast station CW is the only remaining one left. I haven't seen TGS's final broadcast last Saturday (12-29-2008), but at least some anime fans are celebrating its demise.
One of the 4Kids columns is knocked down, but one still remains.
I mean, after all, if TGS didn't acquire the rights to One Piece in the first place they would've never did their controversial and ridiculous editing practices that gave the company a very bad name, and TGS would still be broadcasting in 2009. I guess that this could be chalked up to karma, or something similar I guess.
But as I said, the demise of TGS isn't the complete demise of 4Kids overall. 4Kids is still alive with their other broadcast station, The CW. --72.155.175.144 (talk) 07:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  4Kids on Fox to End Broadcast in 2009 

message: I just read that part in the controversy section regarding the Parents TV group criticizing "4Kids' dubs." They're not doing that, actually. It seems like the entire articles were criticizing the shows themselves, not whether or not dubbing is involved. They've drawn comparisons to other shows, and they've never mentioned 4Kids. Whoever inserted this part into the article must have misinterpreted it. 71.146.76.206 (talk) 02:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I should clairfy that.  It's confusing, currently. --Haemo (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited it to let the fact that PTC's study criticized the [heavily dubbed] Shaman King to speak for itself. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moral conservatives 

message: Bad news. 4Kids is up for sale.--72.148.3.214 (talk) 00:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, according to the Anime News Network article, they said that they had retained the financial advisor Montgomery & Co. to help evaluate its strategic alternatives including, but not limited to, asset sales, alliances with strategic partners, and/or a sale of the Company through a merger or other corporate transaction. So 4Kids is not going anywhere until the process ends or until it decides otherwise. --Girla PurpleHeart (talk) 22:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a source for either of those (aside from animenetwork which really isn't official)?  It should be put in the article if it is.  And is there an update?--70.103.90.123 (talk) 09:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  4Kids is up for sale 

message: http://www.tradingmarkets.com/adv.php?ref=/news/stock-alert/kde_4kids-entertainment-announces-move-of-its-common-stock-from-nyse-to-otcbb-956095.html
Now 4Kids is on the OTCBB. Here's hoping for a longer downfall. :D 66.140.85.15 (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 4Kids fullly delisted

message: During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
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--JeffGBot (talk) 14:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: The trail for the lawsuit took place in August, at least the first phase anyway, so why has there been no updates on it, did they win, settle out of court lose? if anyone has fount anything, I can't find anything no matter where I look, please update the Lawsuit and Bankruptcy section. DreamsDreams (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit and Bankruptcy  

message: I propose that this article be removed of the controversity section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Worlder (talk • contribs) 13:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (in response to Worlder) The Paris Hilton article was vandalised a lot around the time when she was in jail, and yet we kept mention of it in the article. Whenever someone famous dies, the article is vandalised a lot, and yet we still mention the death in the article. When an article is on the front page, it is usually vandalised a lot, yet we do not delete the entire article ;). If this article is vandalised, we revert the vandalism, and place the appropriate warning template on the talk page of the particular vandal. If this article is vandalised a lot by a particular vandal, we go to Administrator intervention against vandalism, and they get blocked. If this article is vandalised a lot, every day, by lots of different users, we take it to requests for page protection, and get it semi-protected. The company is one of the most criticised of all localisation companies, due to the methods it uses, and the section is well-sourced (five different references for the section, though more would always be good), and relatively well-written. The section should not be removed simply because of the vandalism it causes. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 07:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fine that section stays but I hope to see indefinite semi-protection in the near future, because don't you think it is a burden to put up with all those annoying attacks by these extremists against the company for reasons that it committed misdeeds in the past. Besides those otakus got what they wanted, their "crusade" is over, all that is left now is fear and prejudice with the company.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Worlder (talk • contribs) 22:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that is their problem, so we just have to be vigilant for vandalism.A 00:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Indefinite semi-protection is very, very rare, and for good reason. Please remember to try to stay civil with regards to other editors, even vandals. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 23:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing controversity section 

message: http://www.4kidsentertainment.com/faqs.xml
I found this
WhisperToMe (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: XML

message: I think we should be watching this article closely for vandalism. Just right now the 4Kids Entertainment Article was vandalized and that made me having to edit the article. I don't want this article to be locked but we should be watching this article closely. I think this article should be protected now because of too much vandalism.
--Bernard Suen 03:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism In Article

message: Since Saban has accquired 4Kids and sold Yu-Gi-oh to Konami is Saban planning to shut down 4Kids and fully merge it? Matthew Cantrell (talk) 00:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My, Yugioh does have the worst luck of ending up with unpopular companies. You should hear the s**tstorm of hate Konami is getting from gamers this year.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.20.13 (talk) 12:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  So 

message: I would like to make a request change on the 4kids page under the section Editing and Localization of Anime. This quote should be included because the part of the Parent Television Council writing about Shaman King being too violent should also include the quote itself.
Livcorner (talk) 17:39, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 22 November 2012 

message: I just updated the trading information to that of 4Licensing Corp. However, I had to use a template that, while more accurate than the OTCQB template, is inaccurate because the company is on the Grey Market as of now. Thus, I propose a template, such as OTCGrey for Grey Market securities. Michealin (talk) 16:45, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Template for the Grey Market already exist, it's . Powergate92Talk 18:07, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Amazingly, that's the one thing I didn't think to try because of the space. I, however, tried GreyMarket and OTCGrey, among others. Michealin (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template Inaccuracy/Template Request 

message: I'll be watch out for her, the 4Kids fanfag. His/her name's goes by Tammy New born. Pichu0320 (talk) 01:58, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tammy Newborn 

message: While its site is still active, I was unable to get confirmation of 4LC's continuation after its 2016 bankruptcy due to a failed email to its information department. Thus, I strongly suspect its liquidation. However, I'd like someone else to research the subject for thoroughness. Omegatiger121 (talk) 17:16, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suspected Liquidation 

message: hi, when this article saying "was". Are u sure guys that 4licensing is ended with their company? Because there site is still avaible and i see 2017 copyright!--Maxie1hoi (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  still active  

message: I heard that when they did the national anthem on 4Kids, it cause a massive outrage  MechMaster Katzenstein (talk) 21:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we make a separate article on the infamous 4Kids national anthem  

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message: Does anyone know, which computer programs they used to edit scene's and graphics? Winx, Sonic X e.g. --Maxie1hoi (talk) 12:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit 

message: I propose we change the name of the article back to 4Kids Entertainment, that's the more well-known name for the company.
: I think that, now with the company broken and closed, this proposal is totally valid and have my support.. --Demonaire Rai (talk) 21:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I just placed a real move request to move the page back to the original name, in case you’re still interested.ColorTheoryRGB CMYK 04:38, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Change Proposal: 4Kids Entertainment