Talk:Brotherhood of Saint Gregory

message: As reviewing administrator, I consider that  it meets no reason for speedy deletion. The article is on its face possibly important, as are many religious communities. The article is purely descriptive, and not promotional. it serves to provide basic information, not to attract member or solicit contributions. Whether it is actually notable by our standards is not quite clear to me. Our standards are a little artificial, and bear no relation to whether it is fundamentally important or deserving of an article. It needs 2  good references providing substantial coverage from  third party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases . The material cited in the article is not really independent, and is basically just a description.  A source within the group is usable for the basic facts, such as the number of members, but not to show importance. A source within the Episcopal Church more generally, can be sufficiently independent, but it has to actually discuss the group in a more substantial way/ An good article about the group from outside the Church --that would be do it. 
This question will have to be judged by the community  The editor objecting to the article will probably propose it for articles for deletion, and there will be 4 or 5 days to discuss it. It is unpredictable how such discussions go. My guess from experience is that if no additional sources are provided, it will probably not be kept. If better sources are found, it probably will. Groups of this sort have a mixed record of success here: those that work in the outside world do better than contemplative communities, for obvious reasons. 
 
I regret some of  the comments of the editor above. Nonetheless his basic point remains valid: there are   really not fully  adequate sources.  If you need further help, please feel free to ask me at my talk page. DGG (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the advice.  There isn't much trouble finding third-party sources, and I believe that I can locate some without much trouble.  Tb (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks, DGG!  I have followed your instructions for proper deletion of this article.  Ad.minster (talk) 11:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: comments and advice

message: In the interests of clarity, I wish to document that I am an occasional editor of this article, and a member of the community it describes. Before this week, I had only edited the article for minor stylistic bits three times.  More recently, I added a number of references in response to a VfD discussion, and a paragraph indicating something of the notability of the community with more references.  I hope that any edits I make are clearly not pushing an impermissible POV.  Any editors with concerns about any edit I have made are requested to please identify the concern they have.  It is my intention to limit my edits here as much as possible, as I have done in the past.  Because my recent edits were more extensive, I thought this clarification was in order. Tb (talk) 04:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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