Talk:Pavel Chekov

message: I've got a list started of things Chekov has credited to Russia.  I put the ones in that I remembered, if anyone has more I'd hope they would add them to the list.
JesseG 07:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot Wikipedia. ;)--KrossTalk 23:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of what Chekov has credited to Mother Russia 

message: The Koenig article indicates that his family is Russian, but they claimed Lithuanian heritage during the McCarthy era. $20 says, however, that the Koenig article is quoting from the IMDb biography, and IMDb isn't exactly always right. Has anyone here actually read his autobiography or have a more reputable source one way or the other? If not, I'd suggest omitting Koenig's ethnicity; anyone who's curious can look at that article, and we can avoid discrepancy between the two. --EEMeltonIV 20:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koenig background 

message: The explanation in the text misses a possibility; that Chekov, a Russia, overcompensates for the lack of a 'w' sound in Russian, and thus makes the mistake of pronouncing 'v' as 'w'. Either that, or he learned English from someone with a specific working-class-London accent that confuses spoken 'v' and 'w'. Argyriou (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also the possibility of phonetic shift in Russia between now and the 23rd century... - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: recall that we had both a DOG and a PORN STAR named "Beethoven"...sometimes writers just find these amusing, i guess. 66.105.218.6 (talk) 02:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuclear Wessels 

message: The snopes references doesn't go so far as saying this is outright false.  Certainly it is a story that goes back a long way, appearing in a 1968 book, and the Inside Story by Solow/Justman doesn't really try to debunk it - indeed it reproduces a letter Roddenberry sent to Pravda.  It might be an interesting project for someone to search Pravda back-issues. :)
But anyway, most sources are relatively open about the whole Monkees thing as well.  Poor Koenig had to wear a wig at first!  So the whole "Roddenberry made up this story to disguise an attempt to cash in on the Monkees" spin isn't really justified by the sources.  Morwen - Talk 18:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pravda story 

message: The first quote from "Mirror, Mirror" should either be taken out, or noted that the line came from Mirror Chekov and not Chekov himself.  ST Intergalactic 04:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote Section 

message: I'm not sure that the name section is stated in quite the right way. "Chekov" (no "h") appears to be one of several ways in which Anton Chekhov's surname was historically transliterated into English, although it is no longer the most common way. Incidentally, babelfish.altavista.com seems to think that "Чеков" means "checks", although it isn't clear if it means bank checks, checkmarks, or to check on something. 70.20.207.70 (talk) 06:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Чеков" is a form of "чек" which is essentially "a bill" in Russian. I'd say that "Chekhov" is closer to Russian pronunciation of "Чехов" and "Chekov" should spell "Чеков" in Russian. Another thing to consider is that there is no "Андрейвич" patronymic in Russian. The correct one is "Андреевич". --Dr rus (talk) 22:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any precedent for "Чеков" being a name? --Lazar Taxon (talk) 22:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: While googling, I found few "Чеков" as a name. But to my knowlage in all existing Russian translations "Chekov" always translated as "Чехов" (Chekhov).Regarding etymology of the name "Чеков" - two russian words occured to me. First, already mentioned before "чек" (pronounced as "check" and have only two meanings: cheque from bank, and sales slip. For other meanings of the English word "check" ("to check something", "to checkmark", "checkmate" in chess) another Russian words exist). Second - "чека" ("checka"), which have only meaning "pin" (e.g. safety pin for the grenade).But important is not our thoughts, but what thinks Roddenberry when choose this name. --MYury (talk) 10:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh good grief, it refers to the Czech people.  From the Czech Republic, formerly Czechoslovakia, formerly Bohemia.  Presumably one of his ancestors was from that part of the world.  Nothing to do with checks, cheques, Cheka, or anything else.  --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 12:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Joining this discussion after a similar one on HebrewWiki, the official Netflix Russian translation was "Чехов" (see here). On RussianWiki it's also Чехов, and the same is true for Memory Alpha. I think we can safely change the Russian name to Чехов. GHA (talk) 10:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I couldn't help but notice that the Gags section failed to mention the films.  There is a running gag in the movie versions of Star Trek which feature Chekov, where he is always the member of the classic crew who manages to be seriously injured.  In TMP, he is electrocuted.  In II, he's got a sandworm boring it's way into his brain.  I haven't seen III in ages, so I don't remember what happened to him in that one.  In IV, he falls off one of the elevators of the Enterprise onto the dock and cracks his skull.  In V, he gets brainwashed by whatshisname.  I believe he managed to get through VI and Generations without incident, though.  Am I alone in thinking that this is the sort of thing that warrants mentioning?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.66.146.104 (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gags 

message: Please restore this page to Pavel Chekov from Chekov (Star Trek) immediately. It was an entirely appropriate location consistent with the naming conventions for the other characters within the Wikiproject. The claim that the character is "better known" as just "Chekov" is a dubious and unsubstantiated claim. --EEMIV (talk) 03:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's ridiculous to use "(Star Trek)" as a disambiguator when the character's first name is known and available for use.  I think the manual of style is clear on that point.  Powers T 12:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Where did the name Pavel come from? I don't remember ever hearing it on Star Trek TOS. The Wikipedia articles on Hikaru Sulu and Nyota Uhura tell us how their first name got introduced into the Star Trek canon, but this one doesn't. Does anyone know? —MiguelMunoz (talk) 04:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Kirk calls him "Pavel" in the hospital in Star Trek IV, and then I think Chekov himself says it as he regains consciousness. Might come up earlier in the franchise, but I'm not sure. --EEMIV (talk) 11:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm too lazy to click on the other characters' articles, but I'm going to guess one of the reasons those two characters have some coverage of their name is because a) George Takei made a big deal in interviews and his autobiography about his character not getting a first name until Star Trek VI and b) kinda-similar for Uhura, who I think had several suggested first names in the Star Trek novels and EU. *shrug* I think for both, their kind of trivial; even more so here. --EEMIV (talk) 11:56, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Pavel 

message: Any IP editor keeps changing phrasing to call Chekov Czech. All the third-party commentary/sources, and the in-universe plot points, call him Russian. Whether that jibes with what "makes sense" in terms of real-world etymology really doesn't matter.  --EEMIV (talk) 15:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: When the series was made, Czech was part of Russia, a satellite state of them anyway. History of Czechoslovakia (1948–89).  In this timeline it was still part of Russia.  Just like in the 1990s the Eugenics Wars took place.  The Star Trek universe isn't real world history.  Dream Focus 02:05, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: He was Ukrainian. All famous Russians are actually Ukrainian, including Igor Sikorsky, Anton Chekhov, and Nikolai Gogol. BilCat (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian/Czech 

message: The article mentions that Chekov was born in 2241 but Memory Alpha and the official Star Trek webaite have it at 2245.165.120.233.36 (talk) 22:31, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

message: I think the content in the ‘Character Biography’ section needs some serious rewriting.
Firstly, it specifically lists all the times Chekov loses his mind/is subject to mind control. However, I haven’t read anywhere that this happens to Chekov more than it happens to other characters. For instance:
-	Sulu loses his mind in Catspaw, The Naked Time, The Return of the Archons, and in And the Children Shall Lead
-	Spock loses his mind in This Side of Paradise, Amok Time, and in Spock’s Brain
-	Kirk loses his mind in Dagger of the Mind and in The Paradise Syndrome
This is just a common recurring theme in Star Trek TOS, and does not constitute a significant part of Chekov’s character.
Also, I don’t think that Chekov losing fights to creatures stronger than him is a running gag, and I don’t think it’s particularly notable that Chekov was depicted as being attracted to beautiful women in a couple of episodes (the same is true of literally every male character).
Instead, I think this section should contain more actual info about the character’s history: e.g. was born in Russia, is an only child, had a romantic relationship with Irina Galliulin at the Starfleet Academy, his career in Starfleet throughout the show & movies (his time as Science Officer of the USS Enterprise), etc. Spaghettication (talk) 04:16, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character biography