Talk:The Phenomenauts

message: This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 21:02, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for Deletion debate

message: This article reads way too much like a fan site. I won't prune it now, but if those involved editors would clean it up a bit that'd be great. If not I'll take some of the worst of the material out. Things like fictional bios and the gadget thing...thanks. Rx StrangeLove 02:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We need the band members real names, if anyone wants to create articles on them. i removed the redlinks until then. surely somebody knows who they are, unless they are the Residents.75.61.132.26 (talk) 06:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: There are a few sources I have been able to dig up mention of, but not track down. --Culix (talk) 02:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources that exist but haven't been found yet 

message: Items that could use a more accurate source or date. --Culix (talk) 19:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Items that could use more info 

message: Here are some items that need a source or reference. Moving to the Talk page for now since I haven't been able to find anything. --Culix (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims that need sources 

message: Items that have been removed from the page, but archived here in case anyone needs them.
* Old Links
**The Phenomenauts Broadjam page
**The Phenomenauts MySpace page
**Phonocaster Archived reference
*** This does not seem to contain any new material, but might be a useful old article for interest. It looks like much of this Wikipedia article might have been copy/pasted at some point from promo sources like this. --Culix (talk) 19:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archived / Removed material 

message: I would like to make a case for inclusion of an audio clip for the Phenomenauts song "Mission".
* This song was released after the band added a fifth member playing keyboard. It is an example of their synth/new wave style, incorporating keyboard sounds.
* The song has received commentary from reviewers, such as saying it "added an extra layer" of sound to the band.
* I have incorporated commentary into the article, such as a reviewer saying that the song in particular was "an excellent example" of versatility, as well as talking about how the song incorporated styles from several music genres (second paragraph).
* The song was notable for being included on the Warped Tour 2005 compilation CD. The music video for the song was also on the front page of both YouTube and Myspace in 2006, where it received more than 430,000 combined views.
* This is the shortest of the original audio clips, at 14 or 15 seconds. This helps to respect fair use. --Culix (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Case for audio clip of "Mission" 

message: I have been working to improve the article and make it appropriate to use a single audio clip here. Collecting all of the steps here in one place:
* Did a lot of reading of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music_samples, WP:NFC, and and WP:NFCC to better understand Wikipedia norms and how to handle this.
* Worked to improve the article to reference only the single, most notable event where including of an audio clip would be most impactful
* Created a post on the article Talk page outlining a case for why I believe inclusion of a single, short audio clip would be appropriate.
* Posted on Media copyright questions, asking about best practises for including audio.
* Asked the admin for a review of my re-work
* Asked for and kindly received a review and feedback on the article
* Attempted again to ask the admin to have a look and ask if restoring the file would be appropriate (my post appears to be hidden under the "misplaced draft" template at the end)
* Posted again on Media copyright questions to ask for the best next step
* Posted on Requests for Undeletion to ask if this was acceptable to undelete and try re-working into the article. Nicely, the file was undeleted for use.
* Continued to work at improving the article, referencing the single audio clip I am requesting here, to make it appropriate and fair use
I believe with the rework and working this into the article, this should now be okay. Feedback is welcome if there is more I can do to improve this. --Culix (talk) 16:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update on audio steps and rework 

message: Hello. I am about to post on each of the WikiProjects linked by this page to request a review and reassessment of the article. I will also request a peer review. I am creating a new section here to make it clean and easy to leave feedback.
This article has been largely untouched for the past 6-10 years, and I recently made a number of edits. I have added: 109 references; five new free images; 3 new non-free images; four sample audio clips (all within fair use sizes); subtitles for the audio clips; and a band member timeline chart. I have added roughly 4,000 words to the article. I have grouped it into sections, and tried to do several passes at copyediting. I would like to propose it could now be rated as A class. Feedback is quite welcome and I will keep working on it. Thanks! --Culix (talk) 05:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Review 

message: I believe I can improve this article to Good Article quality, and submit for review. Here are the known tasks I want to complete before that happens. Suggestions are welcome. --Culix (talk) 04:01, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The road to GA 

message: I see recently that this edit modified the start date for Ripley Clipse. That is great if you have a reference! But I do not have one. If you have a reference for the earlier join date, please let us know! For now I will comment on the contributor's page (it was a raw IP address), and revert until we have a ref. --Culix (talk) 03:21, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Join date for Ripley Clipse 

message: I've started to look at this article. I'm going to do it in a few sweeps, if that's alright, and I'll post my comments here.
;"History" and "Commando performances"
* "The Phenomenauts perform under a space and science fiction persona." Something about this sentence seems off, grammar-wise.
*  I wonder if "mini-album" should link to Mini-LP? Or perhaps something else?
** This sounds good to me. I added a link. However, do you think we should use something else if the Pre-Entry album was not actually released in a vinyl format? The only copy I was able to find (and purchase) was in CD format instead. Discogs only lists CD format. The AllMusic entry says "Pre-Entry [EP]", but I am not sure if I can verify whether it really was released on EP or not. Amazon says "EP", but I am not sure how to verify if that is actually the case, or if they are just copy/pasting the text. --Culix (talk) 19:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey! Thank you very much for taking a look :) I appreciate it. I'm happy to go through and improve/respond to each of these. It might take me a few weeks. --Culix (talk) 18:47, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

text: As for some of the strange phrasing, during my research it appeared that at one point several large chunks of article prose were copy/pasted wholesale from some kind of advertising or marketing copy, which is not great. I have worked to remove that and re-phrase, copyedit, and outright rewrite some of the material. However, some bits may remain. I'm happy to keep working at it. Just wanted to provide some context. --Culix (talk) 18:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. That's the trouble with an open site like this. I admire your diligence. I'll try to resume looking at this soon.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 01:31, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some comments 

message: I am very happy to report that the screenshot for the video game Space Flight has been released under a Creative Commons license. I contacted the original author and creator, and they were very gracious to release it for use. Thank you! I will update the article shortly to include this. --Culix (talk) 03:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game screenshot - released as free work