Talk:Rockstar Advanced Game Engine

message: Currently RAGE might just be used in one game. But in future it will be used in other R* games as well. Just as one can read in the article (GTA IV).
But it's true: someone could add the information given in the German WP, why R* decided to use RAGE at all. Maybe I will do it by myself, later. –jello ¿? 01:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the trailer for GTA IV and more info on the game are out now, could an admin revert the redirect to the actual article, that "RAGE" was until MIB's edit war initiation, please? –jello ¿? 00:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Which of those things is a reliable source that mentions this engine at all? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just one game? By no means 

message: The article "And Grand Theft Auto IV Takes Place In... * UPDATE *" from TeamXbox states:
:When we asked Rockstar Games for a clarification, a spokesman told TeamXbox: "We would like to let the trailer speak for itself. However, we can confirm that all footage in the trailer "Things Will Be Different" was captured directly from 720p gameplay running real-time in our RAGE engine on a next-gen gaming console."
This should be plenty to revert the redirect back to the original page. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 17:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: . Because this page was protected for edit warring, it is not appropriate for changes like this to be made. Please contact User:Khoikhoi, who protected the page, and ask for unprotection.  Once the dispute is settled, you will be able to edit the page yourself. CMummert · talk 18:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable source 

message: LA Noire doesn't use RAGE... --72.19.91.48 (talk) 22:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  LA Noire source? 

message: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198598570&postcount=272 post by Ash735, from what I understand a former R* employee.
RAGE ERB1
* Rockstar Presents Table Tennis
RAGE ERB2
* Grand Theft Auto IV
* Midnight Club LA
* Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City
RAGE ERB3
* Max Payne 3
* Grand Theft Auto V/Online
I'm not sure how to nicely merge that info into the article, perhaps it also needs more sources. Something completely different is Red Dead Revolver. This 2004 game uses the "Advanced Game Engine" or AGE, an engine that R* supposedly developed so they would no longer have to license renderware which had fallen in the hands of EA. I find all of this a bit confusing. W3ird N3rd (talk) 16:23, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This could probably be insert easily, and if the question arises where to put RDR, as the source outlines is complicated, we would just sort it under ERB2. There problem here is, though, that I'm not sure if we can take a NeoGAF post as reliable source, as we cannot confirm this user's identity as [former] Rockstar San Diego employee, and might just spew random information on the internet to gain attention. BTW, do you know/would you bother explaining what ERB stands for? Lordtobi (✉) 21:33, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mentioned he is a former R* employee in Mystery Solved: Why There is No Red Dead Redemption Port for PC but this is obviously no good source. I don't know what ERB stands for, but a gtaforums staff member says "(ERB is presumebly 'Engine Release Build')". Sounds plausible. W3ird N3rd (talk) 05:03, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The YouTube channel "Tony StrongStyle" is questionable as far as that we cannot tell where he gained the information from. He will have though that it was plausbible, just like you above. And somebody guessing the meaning (it literally says "presum[a]bly") is not credible either. Unless we find a secondary source on the matter, or at least a primary one, we are on dry ground on the matter. Lordtobi (✉) 08:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely correct, I merely provided the suggestion for the meaning of ERB as fun trivia that might help someone else to find a real source, "sounds plausible" is not a credible source. As for Tony Strongstyle, that video is where I learned about the neogaf post. I am not a regular visitor on neogaf. So what I suspect is that Tony is a regular visitor on neogaf or another platform where Ash735 is active and has learned somewhere there that Ash735 is a former R* employee. This would still not be a credible source, all I'm saying is Tony may or may not be just guessing. Ash735 appears to also be active in the modding community and I suspect all the ERB information could also be discovered by a modder, so he could also have the correct information if he's not a former R* employee. For our purposes, the modding community may be able to verify this ERB information. W3ird N3rd (talk) 10:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid that, even they were able to stick together valid information to a usable extend, we cannot use it the way we would like to as it would not be accepted as reliable source here (as being tertiary aka. a fan page, unnotable blog, or forum; in our case the latter), and would need to wait for a secondary source to report on that. For particular research, I recommend the Video games WikiProject's custom Google search engine located at , which lists only reliable sources in our scope. 11:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If the modding community could explain how/where in the game files one can see what ERB version a game is, would that not be a credible source? The modding community is not the source here, the source would be the official game files. You just need the modding community to interpret them. Seems extremely silly to me if that's not a credible source. W3ird N3rd (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You could also dig out profane debugging comments or unused one-pixel graphics, and then give it away as being a claim from a credible source, which it is not. It is also unlikely that the finds will exactly reflect what one might expect when digging through these contents: there can and always will be errors and typos (wrong version number, deprecated comments, you name it). Again, the best option would be to just go with secondary sources, and only resort to primary sources (that is, published primary sources, not game files) to do the research work and confirm it with the company. Lordtobi (✉) 12:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  ERB versions 

message: I'm happy to put some money on the fact that the Switch version of Red Dead Redemption will be a port of an existing version running in an emulator. Therefore, the Switch is still not a platform that RAGE runs on and should be removed. - X201 (talk) 07:12, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like more work than making a straight port since Double Eleven is not known for emulation work. Rockstar had the L.A. Noire engine ported to Switch as well, so I don't find this super unlikely here. What do you wager? A few GA reviews? IceWelder [✉] 07:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nintendo Switch 

message: I know it's not the actual logo coming from some leaks, where is the one used from? Foanx92 (talk) 02:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it was created by  in 2011 based on the shirts in this 2009 video, which appear official. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:01, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the RAGE logo sourced from? 

message: I request that someone adds Grand Theft Auto Online to the list of games that utilize RAGE. It should be within the Grand Theft Auto V column, as they're both developed by Rockstar North and released in the same year, 2013. LoadingYourData101 (talk) 02:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I know GTA Online probably uses the exact same tech as GTA 5, but it would still be worth having a reliable source that says GTA Online uses RAGE. Everything else in the table has a source, but if I were to put GTA Online, it would be missing one. Mokadoshi (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2024