Talk:Orpheus in the Underworld

message: Why, exactly are we eliminating contractions. They may not be necessary, but spelling them out always sounds so awkward.
Also, the a.k.a. may be clumsy, but "the Galop (The Can-Can)" is more so, and inaccurate, as it was only used for the Can-Can later. How about The Infernal Galop (best known as the music of the Can-Can)? Adam Cuerden 04:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Adam, I think you mean 'gallop'. No? Kleinzach 12:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never seen it spelt that way when refering to the musical form. Indeed, one of the sources I was looking at for Gilbert (one of his burlesques) specifically mentions the "Galop from Orphée aux enfers". It's Galop Infernale or something like that in French, so Infernal Galop's a reasonable translation, since it has nothing to do with horses. Adam Cuerden 13:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Fair enough. Grove does give 'infernal galop' as an English phrase. Kleinzach 16:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor debate

message: Could it be mentioned that in Super Mario Land the "immunity star" let play a piece out of the operetta? Think it's quite interesting. --Saippuakauppias ⇄ 17:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Super Mario Land]] 

message: "the law in France did not allow certain genres of full-length works": I think it was a matter of licensing rather. Certain genres were specifically permitted to the specific theatre in question under the license its management held.--Wetman (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The law in France 

message: During the FA process one editor suggested that the piece should be referred to as an "operetta" rather than an "opéra bouffon" (1858 version) or "opéra féerie" (1874) as the composer prescribed. I'd be against this, not least as there is a danger of confusing the non-specialist reader who could reasonably but wrongly take it that the English term "operetta" and the French "opérette" are synonymous. All Offenbach's comic operas are operettas in the broad English sense of the word, but the composer distinguished between "opérettes", "opéras comiques", "opéras bouffes" and various other categories, and although, in an English article, using the broad-brush term "operettas" for the entire corpus is convenient shorthand, it is best when considering individual works to be as precise and unambiguous as possible, I think. When, as here, necessary to find a single term to cover a work that is both an opéra bouffon and an opéra féerie I think it is safest and clearest to say "comic opera" (which has the additional advantage of making our practice consistent with Wikipedia’s terminology for the Savoy Operas, which are obviously cognate subjects.)
:I am happy with this compromise. Part of the problem is that Wikipedia encourages a 'pigeon-holing' mentality and everything has to be carefully categorized, whereas this isn't possible with work of art where rebellious composers avoid the typical labels (try Massenet's names for his operas...) and we have to find something that works best.Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 11:19, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, performances at small operetta(!) theatres are less well documented that the major opera houses, so there will be many performances of Orphée and Belle Hélène will go under the radar. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 11:19, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomenclature etc

message: Plot diagram 143.44.128.38 (talk) 14:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This another of the weird and incomprehensible interjections from the Philippines we have already had chez Ravel and Debussy. I suggest that failing any elucidation we treat it with what the late George Brown called "total ignoral". Tim riley talk 14:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

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