Talk:The West Australian

message: Adjusted to locally edited as the Australian is print by news limited and distrubuted daily in Perth as well Gnangarra 15:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comment

message: This article has a number of statements using words like many, rarely, concerned, etc. Also comment like 'Doesnt respone to crtiques' though probable factual they  all need to have a reference or be reword Gnangarra 01:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The West is a sham of a news provider and practically a mouthpiece for the Liberal party, proof of this exists through its coverage (especially in and around the 2005 election and the Kucera/Birney affairs) but for some reason the article resorts only to vague allegations. Coverage of Paul Armstrong's fines for various things for instance as well as quotes from Bob Hawke from 2005 would give sources to the issues raised. To a neutral reader the page seems hysterical - the business section, for example, is widely respected and its employment pages are institutional. Also the History section is quite incomplete - eg the attempt to become a local newspaper in the 1960s, the Western Mail buyout etc. Really the article needs an overhaul to bring it up to the standard of the pages for eastern states dailies. Orderinchaos78 18:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  All West Australian newspaper articles (ie Sunday Times, the lack of anything about the two western mails, the independent, the daily news and the west australian) are very low quality, maybe some effort should be put into them as they reflect badly on the wa/perth project - considering how much the current newspapers get away with unsourced news materials (anyone notice the west has dropped sourcing stories) and the fact that they have the cheek to lift stuff off wikipedia :)  SatuSuro 14:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: You don't have to read The West, and shouldn't the discussion page be about the quality of the article and how it can be improved. Also, all of those citations could easily be sourced from the website.I like Radiohead 10:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll find 75% of my comment was about the article - which I note is still in need of radical improvement - and almost none of the items I mentioned would be on the website (they don't even keep their own articles beyond a few weeks). Orderinchaos78 10:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is shite.  Yes the newspaper may have its bias, but you do not need to fall to its level.  And rather than appear as appraisal of this newspaper, it sounds more like a sounding board for somebody with issues. Kransky 10:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think you'll find much disagreement with your view, to be honest. My personal preference would be to rip the article up and start again as a collaborative research effort with anyone who wants to contribute warmly invited, so that way we don't even have to work with what we've got to produce a quality article about one of Australia's oldest continuous newspapers. There are pro and anti views which need to be considered and accommodated, the current article manages to do neither. (I see SatuSuro and myself are thinking along similar lines - we've both been concerned by the quality of this article for around 9 months). Orderinchaos78 03:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree completely. The West as a paper isn't worth wiping my bum with, but that's not relevant to a site that's supposed to be a source of quasi-encyclopedic content. The article needs to be reworked, and the full history the paper researched. Furthermore this history should take precedence in terms of the article's focus - the very valid criticisms of the paper's bias and quality can go in a criticisms section, where they belong Xlh 09:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Maybe - it probably needs to be either completely re-written, or otherwise - a systemic editing to bring it to a reasonable standard - the newspaper is at a low standard in a total australian context - and deserves criticism - a much earlier form, of this article read like a PR piece. The west in its current form is a mere pimple on the backside of its historical context and relevance in west australian history SatuSuro 11:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: the cut sections are now at Talk:The West Australian/cut section Gnangarra 11:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  twoz BOLD 

message: Information sourced from Battye, it is safe in every case but the first to cite p.2 of the first publication date as a source as well (back in those days the first page was public notices and the news started on the second page in a very hard to read column style)
* Perth Gazette and Western Australian Journal (5 January 1833 to 25 December 1847
** Weekly on Saturdays
** Initially was a four-page publication (source WA 17/11/1979 p.39)
* Perth Gazette and Independent Journal of Politics and News (1 January 1848 to 30 September 1864)
** Weekly on Saturdays until 21 April 1849
** Weekly on Fridays thereafter
* Western Australian Times (separate publication) (1 October 1863 to end of Sep 1864)
* Perth Gazette and Western Australian Times (merged) (7 October 1864 to 26 June 1874)
* Western Australian Times (3 July 1874 to 14 November 1879)
** Both weekly on Fridays
* The West Australian (18 November 1879 onwards)
** 18 Nov 1879 - 16 Oct 1883 - Tue, Fri
** 18 Oct 1883 - 23 Dec 1884 - Tue, Thu, Sat
** 01 Jan 1885--> - Daily Mon-Sat —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orderinchaos78 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I really think this info should be in a  should be a separate article - ' Early Newspapers of Western Australia' SatuSuro 14:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is West specific, there was a lot more then just the west Gnangarra 14:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Fair enough - if thats the case - its early days just like the rwahs journal! SatuSuro 14:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a new article History of newspapers in Western Australia or similar please.  I recall a good article on this in an old Early Days booklet which I'll try to dig up. —Moondyne 12:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestry of the West Australian 

message: I added this tag as the current teacup storm is producing more information about alleged bias buit will have to wait for the sunday times for a WP:RS media reference as the west isnt likely to provide us with one. Gnangarra 14:58, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ABC have been reporting on it on their online news. Orderinchaos 18:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hesperian 06:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  current event tag 

message: I feel there should be some mention made of the West's political leanings. For example, in The Australian, there is a section discussing the paper's outlook, dubbing it liberal conservatism. I think it is important to note the West's outlook in a similar way. It would be preposterous to pretend that the West does not have an ideological leaning.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.33.230.148 (talk) 03:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is The West still a conservative paper? I agree it was in 2007, but lately it seems more centrist. Jameswilkinson5 (talk) 11:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly seems to be supporting McGowan lately. Probably cashing in on his popularity. The West isn't conservative in the same way Newscorp newspapers are, in that it can support the Labor party when it wants to. It would be good if we could find a more recent source for the political leaning. Steelkamp (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Although right after I say that, they come out with a front cover like this. Steelkamp (talk) 15:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political leaning 

message: Quoting from the website - is unnecessary detail for a 175 year old newspaper - I can think of all the drunk journos who inhabited the palace as being far more interesting than a failed attempt at takeover - therefore it was pruned - and the 175th magazine section started.  Refresh the west is a mere dot of the history of which the current journos dont even appreciate probably SatuSuro 01:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Refresh the west

message: Early days, but there a sfire at the old Newspaperhouse on the terrace,  Gnangarra 07:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire 

message: @MelbourneStar: The West's "support" for Labor came only at the last minute before the election. A reasonable explanation might be that, on perceiving an inevitable change of government, Kerry Stokes & Co felt obliged to curry favour in view of what could be four very interesting years for everybody. Today's editorial strongly promoted a two-party system and rejected any diversity of representation. To my mind, Liberal and Labor are equally conservative parties and have been since the days of Wran, Hawke and Keating. Bjenks (talk) 09:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: agree - they also have  carried Andrew Bolt op pieces for a few months now - hardly an enthusiast for ideas short of balanced journalism JarrahTree 11:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservative leanings 

message: The following well-cited information was removed by User:The-Pope on the basis of being "not notable":
:In 2015, the paper was victim of an elaborate hoax perpetrated by Joshua Ryne Goldberg, a Jewish American internet troll, later convicted of attempting a terrorist bombing in Kansas CityPolice briefs 12/28/17, and accused of planning a terror attack in Melbourne. Goldberg created a number of fake online jihadist accounts, and another fake account, purportedly of Perth Islamic preacher Junaid Thorne. He then sent screengrabs of staged interactions between the fake jihadist accounts and the fake Thorne account to journalists. Not realizing that the "jihadist" accounts were controlled by the same hoaxster that was impersonating Thorne, some of these faked interactions was published on April 18, 2015, and described as evidence of "the deep hatred many of Thorne's followers harbour towards non-Muslim Australians".
Ripperarian (talk) 05:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of information about Joshua Ryne Goldberg hoax 

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