Talk:The Scientists

message: Ok, just thoughts.
*The Scientists are a notable band.  They sold moderately well and made a bit of a splash.  However, their primary notability expressed in this article, probably accurately, is their scene.  They were notable as a first punk act in Perth and one of the early punk acts in Australia.  As such, their actions and effects deserve discussion.  However, I feel that the lineup changes are not warranted for a band of this level.  It ought to be enough to say, "Numerous members came in and out of the band over the next two years."  Listing each, his dates, what he did, etc. seems to me to drag the narrative and to imply that each individual is a major figure.  If each is, then a parenthetical mention is sufficient.  For example, someone writing about The Modern Lovers in their first line up could say "had Jerry Harrison (later of Talking Heads), Brucewhoeverhewas (later of The Cars), and thatotherguy."  Now, that other guy went on to many other bands, but none were headline acts.  So my first criticism is that the line up changes should be handled by a gracefully quick stroke.
*Secondly, although the band had two iterations, more of a description of how they are stylistically distinct (if they are) needs to be in place to justify the section split.  Otherwise, there is no reason to do so.  Instead, you'd say, "After a brief breakup, the band reconvened with a new lineup in London."  Presumably, the two versions of the band didn't sound the same.  If so, if they really are like 2 different bands, that needs to be described.  (I've only heard them in their London version, and they were one-hitters in the US underground.)
*Third, there are numerous, numerous breakouts implied by all those redlinks.  I would rather that someone needing to create articles on those notable people go back and bluelink than to have people only notable for this band redlinked now.
*Fourth, the article seems to really exist to talk about the singer songwriter.  This diverts attention.  If the guy is that important to Australian punk, then let that go there.  Otherwise, it's two articles under one heading, drags the narrative, and splits the reader's attention. Geogre 17:41, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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