Talk:University of California, Santa Cruz/Archive 1

message: I notice that my edits were rejected by someone, and they reverted to an earlier version without discussion or explanation. Accordingly, I have reverted back. [AT] May 2, 2006
...And I've had to do it again [AT] May 8, 2006
===Affiliation===
I read somewhere that the UC system was dropping UCSC, UCSB, UC Irvine, UC Davis, and UC Riverside. Is this true? ArchonMeld 16:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (as to assignments etc online, I think that depends on your department. I think I would die of shock if any of my classes did quizzes and papers online. Novium 23:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits reverted

message: I read somewhere that the UC system was dropping UCSC, UCSB, UC Irvine, UC Davis, and UC Riverside. Is this true? ArchonMeld 16:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (as to assignments etc online, I think that depends on your department. I think I would die of shock if any of my classes did quizzes and papers online. Novium 23:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Affiliation

message: I am a alumnus of UCSC, Stevenson.  I made a few changes based on personal knowledge of events while I was on campus including the return of the Slug.  I owned one of the original Sluggo shirts with the logo depicted on the page.  I would note that the authors comment that traditionally the names to colleges were not sold is simply untrue.  Stevenson did not sell its name, but Cowell was named for the family that gave the land, Merrill for the founder of Merrill Lynch, Crown for Crown Zellerbach (Zee toilet paper etc.,) etc.  Veniceslug1
:To clarify, the Merrill family and the Crown Zellerbach Corp. did endow Colleges Four and Three, respectively.  The only two colleges which were named without some sort of gift going to the University were Stevenson and Oakes.  I believe legend has it that the (K-Mart) Kresges withdrew their gift when they found out the naked androgynous statue thing wasn't going to come down off the wall, but it was too late to rename the college and the name stuck.  I have no citation to back that up.  Anyone for a save?  --Dynaflow 12:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sluggo 

message: There have got to be a thousand humorous references about UCSC. I could probably come up with a couple dozen myself, if I could jog my memory. Many of these may be inside jokes, but funny nontheless.
Here are some for starters:
* College Eight was going to be named "Ronald Reagan" college. I would love to move that cruel rumor from the College Eight page to a UCSC Humor page
* The Flying IUD sculpture sitting between Porter & College Eight
* The references to College Eight & Spam. As one of the original co-conspirators I can ellaborate this
-= Gigglesworth 00:27, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humor at UCSC 

message: I'm pretty sure the first rain run goes further than a mile, especially since they go by all the colleges, and often into them. As I recall, it's about a half mile from SSI to Cowell, for example. Novium 23:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Rain 

message: I reverted 's edits a few days ago, which he changed back with the reason that my revert was "unexplained". My edit summary said "rv non-NPOV edits", but I'll give a more detailed explanation here: the edits by 68.15.19.216 removed perfectly good, sourced content, and replaced it with non-neutral statements, like "As a campus of the prestigious University of California, UCSC's academic reputation was always assured". Plus there were no sources whatsoever, and no wiki formatting. See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. szyslak (t, c, e) 00:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Szyslak's revert of 68.15.19.216's edits 

message: I've been making some substantial changes to this article, so I thought I'd give an overview of my recent edits, plus some thoughts on the current state of this article:
*In the blurb about the residential college system, I selected Rice University and UCSC's sister campus in San Diego as schools with similar college systems. Previous versions have used Harvard, Yale, Oxford and Cambridge as examples. UCSC's college system isn't all that similar to Harvard's or Oxford's as far as I can tell; plus I think it sounds a bit gassy to throw names like that around, as if to say "Lookit us, we're just like Oxford".
*I've commented out a number of unsourced statements about how UCSC ranks "first in the world in such-and-such field". It's hard to find sources to back up claims like that, which read like they're straight from the admissions office. I have been trying to find sources, though.
*A while ago, an anon at the IP 68.15.19.216 made some excellent edits, trimming a lot of fluff and improving the lede, which was barely one sentence at the time. I'm glad my reverts of his earlier edits didn't scare him off.
Compared to many college articles, this one's halfway decent. Most of them are full of inflated language about how "prestigious" or "distinguished" such-and-such school is. They're also notorious for unverifiable, meaningless gossip and stereotypes, like "Dorm Block C is the hangout for emo kids and scenesters; across the quad is Block D, the hippie dorms..." Thankfully, a good portion of that kind of content has been removed or rewritten lately, though much of it remains in the articles on the ten colleges.
I think this article's biggest problem as it stands now is that it's lacking some important information. Among a few other things I'm probably missing, I think the following needs to be added or expanded upon:
*More information on important academic programs and their impact, besides just "first in the nation" and "second in the world" types of claims
*Information on the cost and logistics of a UCSC education, including housing and transportation
*Images: in the main article and the articles on the individual colleges, there are images of each college except Crown. (I took most of the pictures about a year and a half ago; although I took one of Crown, it was so blurry it probably would've gone straight to IFD if I'd uploaded it.) We should probably have some images of other key campus buildings and locales, such as the McHenry Library, the Upper Quarry and the entrance, or "base", of campus.
For a while, I've had the lofty goal of getting this page up to featured quality, but I'm lazy. Still, I think it can be done. I don't claim to own this article, so feel free to take my recent changes for what they're worth. szyslak (t, c, e) 08:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Szyslak's recent edits 

message: I'm posting this survey request Talk:University of California, Riverside#UCR Survey on all the UC talk pages in order to gather outside opinion on ongoing issues concerning the POV of this article. Please read the article and add your insights to the survey to help us identify any points of consensus in the UCR article. Thanks--Amerique 21:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Survey closed, thanks--Amerique 19:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[University of California, Riverside]] Survey

message: I've edited the paragraph on Denton's sucide to make it more NPOV. Several comments that were in the paragraph (the parenthetical comparison regarding home remodelling with UCSD's chancellor, the concluding part in which the paragraph stated WHY she actually committed suicide [which is speculation, as is now noted], etc). I've also shortened the part on Larry Summers' comments and linked to his article instead, where most discussion and description of his comments belongs. 
Jawlz 16:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've re-edited that paragraph to clarify the issues surrounding Denton's death-leap.  In particular, I reworded the final sentence, which had previously implied that Denton took flack at UCSC over her response to Larry Summers's gaffe.  On the contrary, that seemed to be her saving grace in the eyes of UCSC people who otherwise couldn't stand her Dynes-imposed administration. Dynaflow 01:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Denton's Suicide

message: I noticed that many other university pages on wiki have Campus Publications sections, so I added one. I also noticed that there was no article on either CHP or FRL, so I started them. Have at it! Slugmaster 19:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Campus Publications

message: Figured that most of the stuff linking to UCSC was about UC Santa Cruz, so I changed UCSC to redirect here and added some text at the top for the University of Colombo. ParticleMan 05:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed redirect