Talk:Saturn V dynamic test vehicle

message: This seems like an excellent candidate for future expansion. Between NASA archives, local press, and several books, there are sufficient sources to strongly expand this text.  Also, with the recent building of a new exhibit building for the Saturn V at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center, there is more recent history (especially the restoration) to be covered with its own attendant sourcing and photographs. - Dravecky (talk) 23:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I think a very good article can be created out of this one.  Hint. Hint. ;) If not, maybe I'll get around to it one day, but you're the better author. Altairisfartalk 00:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  for future expansion 

message: Added initial section covering restoration of the vehicle.  There may be some sound of self-promotion/AD with reference to Conservation Solutions, especially with the reference material being their website.  This was not my intent.  Would appreciate any help revising that.--Crkey (talk) 18:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see anything wrong with it.  I liked how you included the picture of the Davidson Center.  I didn't much like what happened to it when I added another picture.  -- ke4roh (talk) 03:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restoration 

message: http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/display.html - good article & PD-USGov-NASA -- ke4roh (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Look here! 

message: ...Too many indents :)  There's an article already for the dynamic test stand and two others.   I have not yet put the pieces together to figure out what parts were tested on what stands at what times.  With the renaming, it changes the focus of the article a little, to be more about the test article than about the thing on display in Huntsville, so we should flush out the part about why it's museum-worthy.  I'd like to see much more about the tests, more details on the components, and as much as possible, attribute pictures to the actual parts in them.  I'll work on it as I'm able, but not many spare minutes in a day! -- ke4roh (talk) 12:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added some history of testing.  I'd really like to see a video clip from  from about 5:02 to 6:21, but the transcoding and editing are a little beyond me. -- ke4roh (talk) 14:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I learned a bit about video editing and bought the Mighty Saturns Saturn V set which has several of the quarterly reports.  I'll probably re-visit this video, but what we've got now is a good start! -- ke4roh (talk) 23:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's next? 

message: MHR-5 part 7 contains a free picture, figure 323, of SA-500D in the test stand, but it suffers from a bad moiré pattern in the sky to the left. There are probably other pictures, but I don't know where.   -- ke4roh (talk) 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Found some at USSRC.ke4roh (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture(s) of SA-500D in Dynamic Test Stand 

message: I spoke to Ed Buckbee, first USSRC director and friend of von Braun.  He insisted that the first stage on display was S-IC-T.  He said, "Do you think von Braun would let that T-bird out of town?  Of course not!" He also told of how they brought it up from MTF.  "Winter is wrong." Not sure what to make of that.ke4roh (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: says S-IC-T was taken from the test stand in 1974 and shipped to Florida, so it must not have been on display at USSRC from 1969 to the present. -- ke4roh (talk) 02:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Buckbee says

message: The vehicle displayed in the USSRC Davidson Center is not the DTV. As shown in the picture the S-1C stage of the DTV had only one real engine. The other four were mass simulators. The S-1C stage in the USSRC has all five engines. The vehicle in the USSRC is known as the "Pathfinder," a vehicle that was built to prove the manufacturing tooling and processes before attempting to build a flight vehicle. The book, Stages to Saturn, by Roger Bielstein, confirms this. 
I was an engineer on the Saturn V and was very familiar with the DTV program. Also I visited the USSRC many times in the years before the Davidson Center was built, and during that time the vehicle laying on the ground was referrer to as the Pathfinder, a generic name for a vehicle built to prove the manufacturing processes.
Unfortunately, the Davidson Center vehicle is on loan from the Smithsonian Institute and they have the name wrong. This the USSRC cannot correct the error. 136.53.32.78 (talk) 17:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The vehicle displayed in the US Space and Rocket Center is not the DTV.