Talk:Porto

message: I reduced the image size of [Porto3flat-cc-contr-oliv1002_edit2.jpg] from 1000px to 700x to fit within the article width. As always, readers who would like to see this image at full resolution can simply click on it. Ssredg (talk) 00:44, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Image Size

message: AN USER WITH THE ABOVE NAME IS CONSTANTLY REMOVING IMAGES IN THIS ARTICLE. IS THERE ANYWAY THIS USER COULD BE PREVENTED FROM DOING SO. THANK YOU  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.14.180 (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PLEASE DO NOT SHOUT! Wikipedia is not a gallery! This article already has plenty of pictures, it does not need any more superfluous images. Please do not add images ad nauseam! Thank you! The Ogre (talk) 14:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

text: 92.20.14.180: you seem to be challenged by the English language. ICE77 (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ogre removes images 

message: I moved J.K. Rowling from Notable Citizens, since she wasn't one, to the trivia section.  The Notable Citizens would be more fitting for famous Portuenses.Vogensen 18:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: J.K. Rowling 

message: I have to say that as a Portuense I very seldom experienced 40 degrees in the city.... does anyone have data on temperature averages.. doesn't seem correct. But I might be wrong.
You know what? dumb foreigners travel to the Algarve and think the whole Portugal is like the Algarve, it's a common bias. Northern Portugal has rather maritime temperate weather than Mediterranean weather. The weather in Porto is quite mild and rainy. Temperatures of 40 degrees are rare, maybe more often felt in a summer in Central Europe than in Porto.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.25.42 (talk) 01:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Temperature

message: I just reverted an edit which intimated the metro line to the airport was already running. It isn't. Or am I going to get a shock when I jump on the train in the morning? Deizio 23:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metro 

message: The Porto project is now live. Anyone with an interest in Porto-related content ideas is very welcome to sign up and participate. Hope to see you there, Deizio 16:14, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Porto]] 

message: I think that it is frequently overlooked the strong cultural and ethnic ties that link the Regiao Norte with Galicia (Galiza in Galician-Portuguese language)as for centuries  they were the same country and even today the similarities are appalling. Does not even the very name Galicia come from this part of nowdays Portugal? It is said that this relationship has been alienated by the shared need from Lisbon and Madrid to impose the borders over the reality of a common culture and (almost) similar language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maeloc (talk • contribs) 
It's been said so, but that's rubbish. When Portugal appeared, it *consisted* precisely of the modern northern region. It took long for the whole south to be conquered and the seat of power to migrate south. And, though the portuguese and the galicians have a shared genesis, Portugal was established precisely as a reaction against galician nobility; Portugal was a border area, subject to arab raids, and eager to be its own master, while [the then rest of] Galicia was buffered and quiet, more interested in dinastic power struggles among the other iberian kingdoms. In time, this led to an independent Portugal which was able to perdure to the present, whereas the galician nobility was finally vanquished by the spanish and Galicia was relegated to the status of a rural province.
As to the language, besides quite a few centuries of isolation, Galician has been under especially acute diglossia. If it survives, and that is a big if, there is little reason why both varieties can't reunite, but it would have to be done with respect for each one.
85.241.120.11 (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galiza Sul (Regiao Norte) 

message: I removed too much information about Port wine in the introduction. This article is about Porto, which aside from its name has little to do with Port wine these days. Also, I added some requests for citations for some statements. For instance, was Portugal named after Porto or was it the other way around? Different people I have spoken to seem to disagree on this point. Sources are needed.
I also removed the sentence "It is the seat of the Porto district and capital of the Norte region." which I believe only a few english speaking people will understand. Seat of what? The reference to it being Capital do Norte is repeated later anyway. 
Also, I think the transportation section should refer to the metro as a completed project. It is basically finished as far as I know and has been fully adopted by area residents. Also, don't the buses run on natural gas? That is fairly ecofriendly and should be mentioned. If no one edits, I will edit later, will also add more to this section.
Oh, and there are nonstop flights from Porto to Toronto and Newark, NJ; so you don't have to go to Lisbon anymore to get to North America.
Added an informative climate section. Maybe too informative. Feel free to cut down. Someone should add something about geography. It's very hilly like Lisbon and San Francisco, and city residents have one of the lowest rates of heart disease in Europe. Also, Porto residents never get tired of walking and its fun to pace around the city even if you have nowhere specific to go.
Problems:
Someone should describe the problem with residents leaving the city for the suburbs. Baixa (midtown) is still pretty crowded during the day but gets empty at night except for a few special bars districts. Before the metro and suburban trains, this was putting strain on the public transportation system. I also heard the city is trying to make owners pay for renovations of abandoned houses in the center, sounds like the city should be subsidizing this.
--Dba5 19:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as far as I know, and the article seems to oppose that idea, the name Portugal actually comes from the combination of Portus (Porto) with Cale (nowadays Vila Nova de Gaia). The fact that it comes more recently from the name Portucale doesn't reject the hypothesis. Actually, Portucale also comes from Porto. So, Portus + Cale —> Portucal —> Portugal. What is called popular belief in the article is defended by most (if not all) historians. I think that statement should be corrected. Malafaya 09:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro section and Transportation 

message: In a study concerning competitiveness of the 18 Portuguese district capitals, Porto was the worst-ranked. The study was made by Minho University economics researchers and was published in Público newspaper on 30th September 2006. The best-ranked cities in the study were Évora, Lisbon and Coimbra.[3] Although, the validity of this study was questioned by some Porto's notable figures (such as local politicians and businesspersons) who argued that the city proper do not functions independently but in conurbation with other municipalities.[4] This point of view cannot harm the research study by itself, which was made in accordance with the criteriously selected World Economic Forum scientific methodology[5], because the same situation is what exactly happens with other higher ranked cities, like Lisbon, which were similarly considered alone without its satellite cities or towns.
This is not rational because of simple facts:
*not only Lisbon was in that study and no other district capitals functions like Lisbon and Porto
*the conurbantion of Porto is different from Lisbon's and can not be compared. The city of Porto proper is very old and small.
*it isn't NPOV nether, and contradicts itself in the last sentence: "because the same situation is what exactly happens with other higher ranked cities, like Lisbon, which were similarly considered alone without its satellite cities or towns" who said this? What is wikipedia to contradict geographers and economists? Besides Lisbon which cities are those?! --Pedro 19:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Irrational

message: Clearly, "this study was questioned by some Porto's notable figures (such as local politicians and businesspersons)" answers the question.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.3.163 (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who argues about studies? 

message: The population figure of 326,654 given in the article is wrong. INE (Instituto Nacional de Estatísica) presents the following figures:  263,131 (2001) and 238,954 (estimated 2004/12/31). Portuguese Wikipedia uses the former. I couldn't find figures for 2006. It is well known that the municipality of Porto has been facing serious decline in resident population. Cigsandalcohol 08:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Population

message: It's stupid to say that "they are known throughout the country for their "nortenho" accent". Noone in the north calls it "nortenho accent"... (And, I dare say, the north is part of the country...)
If it were "people from the north are known in the south because of their "Nortenho accent"" it'd make sense... But as the opposite is also applied I don't really see the point in making such an assertion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LeRobert (talk • contribs) 21:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nortenho accent 

message: Why does the transportation section begin with a blurb about a bridge that was sabatoged? That should be in the history
section. People that read this article want to know about currently available transportation. Also the fact that it has several bridges, is interesting, but not really that relevant. Many things were left out. For instance, someone should mention that taxicabs are usually picked up at praças, instead of hailing, though you can hail (this is different in many places outside europe). Nothing was mentioned about the existing tram lines (i.e. the eletrico, now being expanded), nor the funicular that gets you quickly from the baixa to the ribeira. Fare information needs to be included. It should also be mentioned that traffic congestion is pretty bad (though alot better than it use to be, especially in the evenings and early mornings since fewer and fewer people are living in the city). Also isn't the metro complete? Are they building new lines? In general, the transportation section should quickly convey the 1) methods and options used to travel around the city and their costs, 2) how to get to the city, 3) any pecularities that might help foreigners (for instance, you don't drive in the metro tunnels hah), finally, any interesting facts such as the various bridges etc ...
Hope someone that knows this stuff well can fix it, otherwise I'll do it after some time.
--Dba5 12:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transportation section 

message: The figure "2,99 million people in agglomeration" includes the cities of Braga and Guimarães, right?Page Up 19:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sincerely, I don't see the relevance of such figure. The area considered is too broad, so I don't think it makes sense to have it under the article "Porto"... The reference to the source does not justify it as well since the author was just trying to make a point in what homogeneous economic development within regions was concerned. Actually, the text is a mess in what division of territory is concerned: we have city, Greater Metropolitan Area of Porto, Northern Littoral Urban-Metropolitan Region, Greater Porto NUTS III subregion, Norte region, Norte and Norte NUTS II region. Cigsandalcohol 22:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Hello Porto Editors! I figured it might be relevant for you to show - as a supplement to your more factual article - how a traveller presented Porto, using Ponte Luis I as a special angle. So I took the liberty to insert a link to "A Connection in Porto". Keep it if you like. There are no commercial interests behind my initiative.
Scribbleman (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: External links policy on Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, and in this case, you are Terje Raa . Unfortunately your  conflict of interest editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote yourself and your articles. Such a conflict is strongly discouraged. Your contributions to wikipedia under Scribbleman  consist entirely of promoting Terje Raa / bootsnall.com / travellady.com and is considered  WP:Spam. Looking through your contributions as a whole, the all seem to be Terje Raa/bootsnall.com/travellady.com related only. Please do not continue adding links to your own websites to Wikipedia. It has become apparent that your account are only being used for spamming inappropriate external links and for self-promotion.  Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising" and persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted. Any further spamming may result in your account and/or your IP address being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to promote yourself, right?  --Hu12 13:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External Link

message: Many of the images on this article were either taken out or resized dramatically in a few edits a few days ago. This included a beautiful panoramic shot that was actually a featured picture, and I can't see any reason why such a shot would be taken out. The justification for removing many of these pictures was that there were too many, which was true to an extent, but it seems to have gone too far the other way, and doesn't do justice to Porto. 
With this in mind I've put back the featured panormaic shot and a few other pictures, as well as resized some of the others. I think it is best if a compromise is reached between how the article was before I put these back in, and how the article was before any of these were taken out. If you have a particular view on this please put a post here. Norman22b (talk) 10:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: Please contribut with good infomation about The Red Bull Air Race in Oporto, a major event in the 21st century. Thanks.Califate123! (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Bull Air Race 

message: This discussion starts by showing the impoliteness and lack of civic bases of people of Porto, with their characteristic extreme arrogance and racism, which they try to disguise as quarter’s (bairro) pride (bairrismo, local racism). This is a traditional fact, not an argument. Furthermore, their backward mind of stupid false greatness made the article “incredibly overloaded with too many pictures scattered everywhere” as mentioned under the top Images comment title by WolfenSilva. If they want to shoe pictures, just place them on Picasa, Facebook or anywhere of so many of the sort
They are the most envious people in the country and in Europe, copying everything and telling it is their local tradition. Like bull fighting and fado or the popular saints festivals, a clean copy from Lisbon, which today they dare say to be their tradition. The “Queima da Fitas” is another copy, from Coimbra. Port wine has nothing to do with the city and never had. The vineyards are in a delimited area on the region of Trás-os-Montes. It is their landmark. What does it have to do with Porto?
For them everything is great in Porto, and if it is not they make it be, like calling Metro to a long and modern streetcar. The problem with Porto is that the city has always been a third class city in the country, right after Coimbra and Évora, and the die from envy sickness. It is still today (just read the comment here under “not rational”. The city never was political important since the beginning of Portugal, and the “Cortes” were always held somewhere else, as in Coimbra or Leiria. Never a king lived or passed a night in the city, so that they very recently invented another monstrous lie: Infante D. Henrique was born in Porto!
The unjustifiable pride makes them tell the most stupid inventions about their poor past. All mentions are usually made to elevate the city on prejudice of other places and in spite of the truth. An example is the statement on the main page about a supposed Archbishop of Porto, when the city never had one through its whole history. Therefore, this is a disgraceful lie proving what I just wrote.
The story told about Portus Cale or Calem as being Porto and Vila Nova de Gaia is also a paramount lie. Portus Cale was a very small village close to today’s Vila Nova de Gaia. Porto was even smaller and non important place lije so many others.
The growing of the city on the last 50 years has been achieved by using the funds that should be applied to develop the regions of Trás-os-Montes and Alentejo, stolen by political corruption and keeping these regions as the most underdeveloped areas in Europe. In another example, I quote this sentence from the article: Porto is often known as Cidade das Pontes (City of Bridges). Meaning that too many bridges have been built a small area owing to political corruption, therefore spoiling the money needed elsewhere, as in the Lisbon area; with a population close to the half of the country’s, there are only two bridges. Money has been applied there instead of on other much more needed areas, only by corruption. Funds used on the city’s development have been stolen by corruption, too. Porto has the highest per capita percentage of crime in the country by far. As an example, Casa da Musica, only used for silly events, cost more than twice the planed budget, openly stolen by the city Mafia. Exactly the same applies to the airport.
This article is full of lies misleading whoever reads it and does not know history. This article is trying to rewrite the history of Porto exactly the same way the city developed in the last half century: lies and mafia’s corruption.
There are many more lies in the article, but I think there is no need to go on to prove this whole article should be replaced by a correct one written by honest people. The entire thing is a clear fake. Moreover, the whole text is a mess on most subjects.
Most people from Porto will disagree, but I have only mentioned well-known hard facts that Porto citizens try to camouflage by deceiving people. The truth above all, and History must be True, not defending private interests. I am only sorry for having had to be so long.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Straydog-1st (talk • contribs) 17:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article as a whole 

message: The Porto Family Tree branches connect with both the Pagoria Family Tree and the Scalfano Family Tree.  The Porto family is also from Caccamo.  Connections to the Scalfano and Pagoria Family Trees
The Porto surname history is very interresting. They have their origins
in the Piemonte region of what is today Italy and parts of present day Southern
France. They were part of a religious sect called the "Valdese"(It.). The Waldensians were followers of Peter Waldo (or Valdes or Vaudes); 
they called themselves the Poor men of Lyon, the Poor of Lombardy, or the Poor. They were the first Methodist of Europe years before the Reformation was even conceived. 
A Christian sect believing in poverty and austerity, they were founded around 1170 promoting true poverty, public preaching and the literal interpretation of the scriptures. Declared heretical, the movement was brutally suppressed by the Roman Catholic church. The group was one of many suppressed by the Roman Catholic Church during the 12th
and 13th centuries. Fleeing inquisition and persecution,many "Valdese" escaped to Switzerland and Germany. One group settled and founded several villages outside of Cozenza, Calabria (this is where my Mother's side of the Family come from) 
Origin: Peter Waldo and his followers 
Waldo began to preach on the streets in the 1160s. By 1170 he and his followers were excommunicated and forced from Lyon. The Catholic church declared them heretics - the groups principle error was "contempt for ecclesiastical power" - that they dared to teach and preach outside of the control of the clergy "without divine inspiration", but they were also accused of the ignorant teaching of "innumerable errors" and condemned for translating parts of the Bible into vernacular. The movement even sought Papal approval for their endeavours at the Third Council of the Lateran where they were humiliated over certain fine theological points but gained a modicum of favour from the Pope. Waldo and his followers developed a system where they would go from town to town and meet secretly with small groups of Waldensians. There they would confess sins and hold service. A traveling Waldensian preacher was known as a barba and could be either man or woman. (The idea of a female preacher was novel, almost revolutionary in and of itself, for the era.) The group would shelter and house the barba and help make arrangements to move on to the next town in secret.
Portuguese: habitational name from Porto (Oporto). 
Spanish: habitational name from any of the numerous places, especially in Galicia, named Porto, usually in the sense ‘mountain pass’. 
Italian: habitational name from any of numerous minor places named or named with Porto, from porto ‘port’, ‘harbor’. 
 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosporto (talk • contribs) 03:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porto Surname Origins 

message: Does anyone know of good sites close to attractions???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.74.60 (talk) 08:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camping sites in porto 

message: I was curious, why is this article spelled Porto, and not the English Oporto, as it is accepted in English-speaking countries? Can anyone give me a logical explanation? Considering the number of commentaries, both good and bad, through the Talk page, I may have missed a justification. I suggest that it be moved and all spellings should be changed accordingly. I refer to the fact that Lisbon is not referred to as Lisboa in any of the associated articles.Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 10:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: English Wikipedia and Oporto

message: Based on the data presented, Porto's climate is basically an oceanic climate, albeit a more moderate form of the climate, with a drying trend in the summer. This makes it a more like Marine West Coast climate, not much different from the one experienced in the Pacific Northwest region of the US. 2 major reasons why.
1. Porto sees about 1200 mm of precipitation per year. Mediterranean climates typically average at best about half this amount.
2. The drying trend is only seen during the summer months which is at best about 3 months long. All other times of the year sees heavier precipitation. Mediterranean climates tend to have 4-6 months of drier weather.
While Porto's climate technically can be called a Csb climate, the nine month long wet season makes it more of an oceanic climate. If I am missing some detail about Porto's climate please let me know.
G. Capo (talk) 07:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur: the claims on this subject should be resolved with a few citations, indicating that, in fact, the statements attributed to User:G. Capo are valid, and supported by qualified sources? I mean, a phrase such as "could technically qualify" are not necessarily an encyclopedic statement, but a point-of-view. I am no climatologist.Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Based on what I'm hearing, Porto's winter rainfall is very different from London, but more similar to San Francisco. It's not a consistently overcast light "drizzly" rain but a heavier less frequent rainfall. The sources that I've have that describes Porto as having a "maritime climate" are tourist pages and less scientific. I guess the question I have is whether a climate that averages 1200 mm of rain per year and only occasionally rises above 30 C on average still be considered Mediterranean? If it can, I'll be in full agreement that it is mediterranean. G. Capo (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

text: 2010 was a very uncommon year throughout the world climate-wise :). My city just had its hottest summer on record. Apparently, I misread this link  where they were talking about average number of days above 32C not 30C. As you can see, on average there's only 4 days where Porto exceeds the 32C mark. I guess my one question is whether a city that receives over 1200 mm of rain annually can still qualify as a Mediterranean climate. That is a lot of rainfall for a Mediterranean climate!  G. Capo (talk) 03:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Sorry for the long delay in responding! I’ve been pretty busy. Mediterranean climates feature precipitation totals at most below 900 mm per year. Porto is above that mark. This is the major source of confusion for me. G. Capo (talk) 21:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate classification I

message: The text says that Porto is the second largest city in Portugal. Maybe that's true if we consider the city itself, but not the municipality, because Vila_Nova_de_Gaia_Municipality is quite larger. I guess that this should be made clear in the text.
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.56.210.23 (talk) 08:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second largest city? 

message: As a former son of an owner and inhabitant for 20 years of an abandoned house in the center (R Tomaz de Gonzaga/Miragaia), I would like to add to the question that the former inhabitants of many "abandoned" houses in the historic district were "invited" to leave in the earlier 90s for renovation works, and most of them were offered social housing, initially in Circunvalação, however almost a decade later rehoused in the fantastic neighbourhood of the Bairro da Pasteleira. The city council bought/expropriated most of the old houses near Alfândega/Ribeira, and advised tenants/owners who wanted to stay behind they would have possible future costs of mandatory renovation of their old houses - only the very old that lived alone stayed behind citing humanitarian reasons. However, they are still sitting on the houses/real estate 20 years later, (probably, in my personal opinion, waiting for the people involved to pass away in order to avoid legal battles). The idea, again in my opinion, seems to be to reform them/and or sell the real estate to wealthy foreigners with a big profit in maybe more 10 or 20 years, I bet. Due to this, there are several streets that seem almost part of a ghost town, either during day or night. My parents were heartbroken last time we visited the place.
::Noone cares. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!)  02:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Residents leaving the city 

message: I don't like the discussion on the climate section. It reads like an opinion. Anyway. Data in there must be incorrect (in rain and extreme temperature). Porto's record high is 39.9C (1944) at Serra do Pilar which is near downtown Porto, some meters away!  --Pedro (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Climate classification II

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message: One should not compare Porto and Lisbon with great intensity.
It has two completely different stories. There are great rivalries.
The Portuguese nation was born in 'Entre-Douro-e-Minho'. Lisbon was conquered by the noble classes of that territory.
The populations of the territory of Oporto have origin in Phoenicians/Punic and ancient Hebrews and Cripto-Jews and Marranos. The populations of Lisbon originate from Berbere / Moors and Roman/Latin.
The most populous region of Portugal is the North Region with almost 3,700,000 inhabitants (NUTS II). The Lisbon Metropolitan Area (NUTS II) has much fewer inhabitants. Spain.beauty (talk) 14:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porto and Lisbon 

message: I made corrections and improvements to this article. I also made an effort to reorganize and improve the layout. I have some comments and questions.
1. "Known as the city of bridges, Porto built its first permanent bridge, the Ponte das Barcas (a pontoon bridge), in 1806. Three years later, it collapsed under the weight of thousands of fugitives from the French invasions during the Peninsular War, causing thousands of deaths."
This is redundant with a similar sentence in the first paragraph. The two should be merged.
2. "The Ponte D. Maria, a railway bridge, was inaugurated on 4 November of that same year."
What's the year?
3. The section called "Geography" does not talk about geography.
4. "A guided visit to the Palácio da Bolsa, and in particular the Arab Room, is a major tourist attraction."
This information is not necessarily pertinent to the section of this article.
5. "The country's biggest exporter (Petrogal) has one of its two refineries near the city, in Leça da Palmeira (13 km) and the second biggest (Qimonda, now bankrupt) has its only factory also near the city in Mindelo (26 km)."
If the refinery is no longer operational then this sentence must be revised.
6. The paragraph that starts with "In a study concerning" and ends with "different dependent measures" is inconclusive and unimportant.
7. Is Valença really an alternate name for Viana do Castelo? I have not come across something to prove that so far.
8. "FC Porto is one of the "Big Three" teams in the Portuguese league, and was European champion in 1987 and 2004, won the UEFA Cup (2003) and Europa League (2011) and the Intercontinental Toyota Cup in 1987 and 2004. Boavista have won the championship once"
Which championship they won is not clear.
9. The heritage tram image is horrendous. There is a pole in front of the tram.
10. Although J.K. Rowling lived in Porto for at least 18 months, I'm not sure she can be considered a "notable citizen" like many others who were born in Porto. Therefore, I removed her entry from the list of notable citizens.
11. Several images like "Porto City Hall in the Avenida dos Aliados", "Clérigos Church and Tower", "South side of Douro, Vila Nova de Gaia" and "Cais da Ribeira" have nothing to do with the sections they are in.
ICE77 (talk) 05:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments and questions