Talk:ABC

message: True or false: this article belongs at ABC (disambiguation) with ABC being a re-direct to American Broadcasting Company. 66.245.105.237 00:43, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if you're a TV-obsessed slave to the corporate state. :-) American Broadcasting Company is unimportant outside the US, and even in the US, most people know the companies as "Channel 11" or whatever - they would be hard-pressed to make a list of which network goes with which of their local channels. The most widely-recognized meaning of "ABC" in the US is as a reference to the alphabet. Stan 01:29, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would be better for someone to disambiguate the links to ABC to their proper pages. dml 01:32, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Also true, but it's fair to ask if a particular meaning of an initialism is sufficiently predominant that it should "own" the letters, as for instance BBC or DOD. "ABC" just happens to have a slew of different popular meanings, and the company is in the middle of the pack so to speak. Stan 03:00, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Links to this page from the main article space have pretty much been redirected to bypass this disambiguation; there are a bunch of Wikipedia- and User-talk-space links remaining, though, which is pretty much expected considering the many uses of the term. Courtland 03:20, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleared another 35 - 40 links that had cropped up to this page.  Why are people so sloppy about checking their links??? JimmB 20:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think our friend with the IP numbers was right. I was working on fixing up the links to this disambiguation page, and every one is in fact a link to American Broadcasting Company. If almost every page links to American Broadcasting Company, shouldn't the ABC article be a redirection there? I know that ABC happen to be the first three letter of the alphabet, but, so what? NBC, BBC, AXN, they all have redirects. --PeterCantropus 23:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC vs. ABC (disambiguation) 

message: Name some things that Wikipedia has articles for that are of no importance in the United States, writing after it the country (e.g. United Kingdom) that they are important in. 66.245.121.176 20:28, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well... 

message: I thik that the present "part of name" vs. "abbreviations" categorization scheme is poorly conceived.  For instance, consider ABC weapons.  'ABC' is part of the name, but it is also an abbreviation for 'atomic, biological, chemical'.  We need a new system, but I'm split between two alternatives.
* We could split it by grammatical type (organizatons, people, things)
* We could split it by subject area (automotive, computer, music, etc.)
Which is better? --Smack (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The latter (though examples are hard to distinguish). Pavel Vozenilek 03:03, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Yes please ;-) Pavel Vozenilek 23:01, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a clear potential for a section on computers and a section on organizations, but any categorization scheme needs to be non-overlapping.  We have an organization that makes computers (ABC Computer).  Where would it go? --Smack (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Organizations. Today the sell computers, tomorrow raincoats, ... Pavel Vozenilek
=== Explaining my reorganization ===
I did some relatively minor reorganizing of this page guided mainly by a desire to bring the section headers into closer alignment with a) existing categories and b) section headings that might be useful across multiple disambiguation pages.
* Existing categories: :Category:Organizations, :Category:Media companies, :Category:Musical groups and :Category:Musical compositions, :Category:Vehicles, and :Category:Electronics.
* Utility across dab pages: this was the primary driver for using "Electronics" and not "Computing and computer hardware" (represented by :Category:Computing and :Category:Computer hardware), and "Vehicles" instead of "Automobiles" (which would match :Category:Automobiles).
I trust my changes aren't sufficiently horrid that they evoke a visceral reaction in folks.  Regards, Courtland 01:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I purposely avoided using "Computing" or somesuch as a heading because we have one organization that makes computers, and another that makes electronics. --Smack (talk) 05:35, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just recently changed this to "Computing technology". I understand the potential for ambiguity, but I disagree on the matter of its impact in the context of disambiguation pages. Courtland 04:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to reorganize 

message: I did some relatively minor reorganizing of this page guided mainly by a desire to bring the section headers into closer alignment with a) existing categories and b) section headings that might be useful across multiple disambiguation pages.
* Existing categories: :Category:Organizations, :Category:Media companies, :Category:Musical groups and :Category:Musical compositions, :Category:Vehicles, and :Category:Electronics.
* Utility across dab pages: this was the primary driver for using "Electronics" and not "Computing and computer hardware" (represented by :Category:Computing and :Category:Computer hardware), and "Vehicles" instead of "Automobiles" (which would match :Category:Automobiles).
I trust my changes aren't sufficiently horrid that they evoke a visceral reaction in folks.  Regards, Courtland 01:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I purposely avoided using "Computing" or somesuch as a heading because we have one organization that makes computers, and another that makes electronics. --Smack (talk) 05:35, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just recently changed this to "Computing technology". I understand the potential for ambiguity, but I disagree on the matter of its impact in the context of disambiguation pages. Courtland 04:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explaining my reorganization 

message: Cleaned links to this page from the main article space; a couple remain pending input from more knowledgable editors. Courtland 04:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearing "What links here" 

message: referring to archived diff
That was a good idea as the comparable meaning appears in the Wiktionary entry at Wiktionary:ABC. Courtland 23:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "basic and all-purpose" meaning 

message: Maybe we should include a direct link to the (Latin) Alphabet. 惑乱 分からん 11:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabet 

message: I don't see any reason why so many media channels and stations should be listed; most of them would never be an intended target for a search on "ABC", as far as I can tell.
I suggest consolidating the American and Australian ABCs to the links below:
* American Broadcasting Company, an American television network
* ABC Radio, an American radio network owned by the American Broadcasting Company
* Australian Broadcasting Corporation, an Australian media broadcaster
** ABC Television, the television branch of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation
** ABC Radio (Australia), the radio branch of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation
** ABC (TV station), the ABC's Canberra-based TV station
(I created the ABC Radio (Australia) redirect just now; it seemed odd that there was no direct link that I could find. Also, I'm totally puzzled by the TV station article: is this the only Australian ABC TV station, or is it just the only one in Canberra? Anyone know?)
A case could be made for including some of the other links that at least include the letters ABC; as an American, I can tell you I don't think ABC Studios or ABC News would ever be referred to as just "ABC" except in a very specific context. But listing all the divisions of the Australian TV and radio networks is clearly excessive; I highly doubt even an Australian would refer to Fly TV or Rollercoaster as "ABC." (I just clicked on the latter and it's not even a channel; it's just a show. Should the ABC page list every single show on any of the ABC networks?)
I just wanted to see if there were objections here, before I deleted all the apparently excessive links. Propaniac (talk) 00:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of response, I'm assuming there are no objections and cleaning up the section. That's always nice. Propaniac (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing irrelevant media outlets 

message: I don't quite understand forcing a redirect to ABC (network), especially when ABC in Australia is as much of a network as ABC in the US. It's confusing. ABC (network) should probably come to here anyway instead of the American Broadcasting Company. As far as I know, the Australian ABC is referred to as ABC in Australia just like the American Broadcasting Company is referred to as ABC in the US. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 07:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you should try to change the ABC (network) to be a redirect back to this page as . There is no point to constructing a fake piped link to look like a redirect. older ≠ wiser 10:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

text: The Australian ABC is actually called "the ABC," not "ABC" as we refer to the American company. Incidentally, why does the Australian Broadcasting Corporation require so many "sub-links" on this page? The American company also has local stations KABC and WABC and the cable outlet ABC Family, yet none of those are referenced. --SchutteGod (talk) 02:42, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Broadcasting Company 

message: I just added an entry for a news agency called ABC Live in India.  Here is their site.  I am not sure what this organization is doing, but they seem to be producing some original news content as well as aggregating other agencies' content.  However, their website seems illegitimate in that there is no information there about the agency itself. I am not sure if they are notable, but I am here because they seem to be the primary source for this, which lots of other agencies are copying. Blue Rasberry 15:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC Live 

message: There currently appears to be a dispute between me and an IP editor (24.244.32.255) over whether or not this page should be converted to a redirect to American Broadcasting Company. I believe this page should remain as a disambiguation. Should this be kept as a disambiguation or converted to a redirect?  (edited)
CreationFox (talk) 19:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect to American Broadcasting Company 

message: Please list Agatha Christie's book The A.B.C. Murders, I think that some people coming to this page may want it. 89.138.147.167 (talk) 19:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - Dmezh (talk) 20:07, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Undone: This request has been undone.  Per WP:PARTIAL, disambiguation is intended to clarify ambiguous page titles, not be a search index for everything related to the page title. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  agreed. Thank you. - Dmezh (talk) 20:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please list The A.B.C. Murders 

message: Please replace it with . 2605:8D80:402:86C3:507E:E06B:AD00:3E3D (talk) 03:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This is a disambiguation page. NiciVampireHeart 09:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2019 

message: Should a link to Freeform be provided under "American Broadcasting Company", with the link referencing the channel's former "ABC Family" branding? 2600:1700:C960:2270:B836:8586:DC9B:31CE (talk) 09:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: It seems unlikely that someone looking specifically for ABC Family would end up here. WPscatter t/c 09:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2022