Talk:V for Vendetta/Archive 1

message: in the paragraph where it says that london has the highest concentration of CCTV in the world,(in the section titled, "themes of the book); well, that needs to be cited.  i don't want to take it out if its true, but it can't sit in there unverified.
--64.142.79.210 06:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: Although (per above) V is certainly an anarchist, I'm not sure that this belongs in :Category:Anarchism books.  The problem is that V's speeches aside, it's far from clear that V for Vendetta itself is advocating anarchy, or even portraying it in a positive light.  V kills many innocent people throughout, and although he has overthrown the government at the end, it's not really clear whether things have been improved.  I'm not sure a book that just has anarchy as a major theme belongs in that category--for instance, The Man Who Was Thursday also focuses heavily on anarchism, but probably wouldn't belong in that category. --Aquillion 01:17, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think it does belong there, and have added it back. That category covers anarchist fiction as well as works of theory. With that precedent, this work belongs there. If someone would rather there be an "Anarchist fiction" category, that's fine by me. But as it it is this is an important work of cultural anarchism and should be categorized accordingly. The moral ambiguity of V's character was intentional, in order for readers to think about whether he was right and wrong in his actions. In fact, that was the primary point of the book: "And the central question is, is this guy right? Or is he mad? What do you, the reader, think about this? Which struck me as a properly anarchist solution. I didn't want to tell people what to think, I just wanted to tell people to think, and consider some of these admittedly extreme little elements, which nevertheless do recur fairly regularly throughout human history."  Sarge Baldy 19:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Anarchism books]]

message: In a Radio 4 interview in 2005 Moore says the idea for the series began as an homage to British Comics of the 50s and 60s which he read growing up such as The Eagle and Lion that often featured characters from British folklore updated as crimefighters or superheroes.
I go along with Hob's shortening of my original synopsis but I don't think the current article reflects the richness of the series, in particular the supporting cast. If anyone agrees perhaps this can be added in a section.Piersmasterson 14:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest you add the section, be bold.  It can always be edited and discussed here.  Steve block  talk 16:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: Also following the theme of numbers comes Evey, V's protégé whose name has 4 letters.
That sentence seems irrelevant and poorly phrased.  How is it interesting or noteworthy that "Evey" has four letters?  Also, in what sense does this follow?  No "theme of numbers" is ever asserted (we are merely told that there are many references to the number five).  Can this be safely deleted, or am I missing something important here? --Thetourist 08:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's written with a "y" throughout the comic. Fightindaman 02:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My name has four letters too 

message: I remember the terms Land of Take-What-You-Want and Land of Do-As-You-Please from some Enid Blyton books, The Magic Faraway Tree series, and I have added this reference in 'related works'. What I'm not sure on is if this is the origin of these phrases (the books were written between 1939 and 1951.)
: I believe The Magic Faraway Tree is mentioned in the graphic novel. V reads a passage from the book to Evey before going off to kill Delia. --YoungFreud 13:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Land of This-That-And-The-Other 

message: I think that violates WP:NPOV and so think it should be removed.  I'd also note the article should make no such assumptions. Steve block  talk 22:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The disclaimer

message: I've yet to find an explanation as to why V used daggers, or why Mr. Moore chose them. My hunch is that it had something to do with the title. The Corsicans were notoriously known for their vendettas, which were usually carried out with stilettos and the likes. Perhaps Moore made his choice in light of this info?--The Individual 02:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Daggers tend to be associated with the popular image of an anarchist (a shady, violent individual using a dagger in an assassination). This may have had something to do with it. Fightindaman 00:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

text: V actually prefers the use of his fingers to daggers in the graphic novel, and there's only two known exceptions: the fight with Finch (in which he throws a dagger), and two guards killed at the studio (stabbed). Although it's true he does also carry a number of them concealed under his cloak. Sarge Baldy 20:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  V's daggers 

message: I put in a request for a third opinion. I find myself growing frustrated, and I recognize that frustration tends to make me 1) stubborn, and 2) openly cranky, neither of which is helpful, and I apologize if some of my talk: commentary has come across as excessively ill-tempered. That said, I'd prefer that someone who isn't invested in this discussion come in and take a dispassionate look at ALL the disclaimer/theme edits. If I turn out to be on the wrong side of the consensus, I'll accept it (and may or may not change my mind, depending on how the discussion goes), but at the moment we largely have two or three editors arguing. DCB4W 01:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Obscure edit war

message: I believe this article would do well with actual images from the comics showing it's mood and style.  There are plenty of scans online... but if they are not the comic book covers, I am presuming they breach copyright if they are posted here?--P-Chan 08:40, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure, but I would think that  images consisting of single panels would classify as fair use, in the same way that quotes and screencaps can be considered fair use (i.e. because they're used only for demonstration purposes). Actually, I just noticed we do have a fair use tag for that (:Template:Comicpanel) so adding some images would be a good idea. Sarge Baldy 09:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images from the Comics 

message: Does this have anything to do with Sue Grafton's book series? UndeniablyJordan 22:19, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. That would be an interesting departure for her, but no. Take a look at the article, it's interesting. ←Hob 23:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hehehe.  This thread just brightened my day.  :) --P-Chan 07:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sue Grafton?

message: The only thing that I would like to weigh in on in the above discussion is the inclusion of alternate interpretations (i.e. V being someone other than the prisoner from cell V). Personally, I consider most of these theories on par with the interpretation that Tom Bombadil is Sauron (which ultimatley meritted an external link for that article, but not a discussion in the text, last time I checked). However, the inclusion criteria for such theories is not whether we think that they have merit or not. Show me a review of the movie or comic, a published interview with the authors, or any source other than internet message boards and personal websites. Otherwise, obviously they cannot merit inclusion. The interpretation of the NPOV policy above by DCB4W is just flat wrong. "Articles that compare views need not give minority views as much or as detailed a description as more popular views, and may not include tiny-minority views at all" (emphasis added). I also quote from that policy "cite a prominent representative of the view", i.e. not an internet message board. If you want such views included, my advice is to start looking for a source. savidan(talk) (e@) 03:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I might agree with you about "tiny-minority views." Your comment was about views held by "millions of people," which made me a little skeptical about the rest of what you had to say. I will note that we're discussing critical analyses of a comic book, which exist only in tiny-minority opinions, such that "prominent representatives" are nonexistent, particularly when one defines the term so as to exclude pretty much anyone who would be likely to publish a critical analysis of a comic book. In any event, I conceded defeat a week ago, so there's really no point in going over it further. DCB4W 03:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well. I would just like to clarify that if it were true that this view was held by "millions of people" it would be acceptable, but there is no proof of that. I think we can back up what is said in the article now with published sources, and I think we have. The internet is not the source of all knowledge, and people do occasionally publish viewpoints in other sources. savidan(talk) (e@) 08:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Alternate interpretations"

message: Okay, I've converted the external links into reference format. Hiding  talk 14:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Somewhere I've got a sketch Lloyd did for me of V for Vendetta, I've just asked at WP:FU if I can upload it and use it in this article. Hiding  talk 19:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links to references

message: Caption says #5, pic clearly shows issue #19.  Some mistake? --Oscarthecat 21:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it was, but it's now fixed.  Good eye.--P-Chan 17:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warrior issue number : wrong? 

message: Just a note to anyone reading this before editing the main page. This article is about the V for Vendetta comic book. In the book, V blows up the Houses of Parliament first and the Old Bailey later. Please don't change the article to say he blows up the Bailey first just because that's what happens in the film. --Le Scoopertemp [tk] 21:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Houses of Parliament and the Old Bailey

message: In terms of numerological meanings the number 5 is the symbol for an individual with a highly progressive mindset, with the attitude and skills to make the world a better place. The key word for this person’s Life Path is freedom. In the pursuit of freedom, he is naturally versatile, adventurous, and advanced in your thinking. You are one of those people who is always striving to find answers to the many questions that life poses. 5 is the number most often associated with the productive use of freedom. A person who associates with the number 5 is perhaps the most compassionate of people as the 5 is surely the most freedom-loving and compassionate Life Path. His love of freedom extends to humanity at large, and concern for his fellow man, his freedom and his welfare, may be foremost in your mind. He is a good communicator, and you know how to motivate people around him.This may be his strongest and most valuable trait. Because of this skill, and the individuals amazing wit, he is a truly natural born salesman. This ability to sell and motivate extends to any sort of physical product all the way through to whatever ideas or concepts you may embrace. The individual who associates himself with the number 5 abhors routine and boring work, and you are not very good at staying with everyday tasks that must be finished on time. On the average, the number 5 personality is rather happy-go-lucky; living for today, and not worrying too much about tomorrow. It is also important for him to find a job that provides thought-provoking tasks rather than routine and redundant responsibilities. He does best dealing with people, but the important thing is that you have the flexibility to express yourself at all times. he an innate ability to think through complex matters and analyze them quickly, but then be off to something new. A love of adventure may dominate the life of someone associated with the number 5.. This may take the form of mental or physical manifestation, but in either case, you thrill to the chance for exploration and blazing new trails. Surely he belongs to a group considered the most worldly and traveled. Clearly he is not one to pass up a good venture. He has quite a lot of the risk-taker in your makeup. If he isn’t putting his money at stake, you are surely open to a wide variety of risks in his everyday life. Taking the conservative approach is just not in his nature. In romance, the number 5 suggests that the individual hates to be tied down and restricted. This doesn't necessarily mean that he is unfaithful or promiscuous, but it does mean that a good partner for him needs to understand his nature. A relationship based on jealousy and having tight reigns is not going to work at all for him. A partner who understands his need to be free and trusted will find him trustworthy, even if he isn’t constantly available and totally dutiful. It is important for him to mix with people of a like mind, and to try to avoid those that are too serious and demanding. An individual living on the negative side of the Life Path 5 is apt to be multitalented, but suffering from some lack of direction, and there is confusion surrounding his ambition. Restless, discontent, and impulsive, he may bounce from one job to the next without accomplishing much at all. A negative Life Path 5 can become very irresponsible in tasks and decisions concerning the home and business life. The total pursuit of sensation and adventure can result in his becoming self-indulgent and totally unaware of the feelings of those around him.
*Someone might want to look at boiling all that down for inclusion in the Number 5 section. It doesn't really belong in the Significance section, to my mind. --Le Scoopertemp [tk] 01:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Numerology

message: I've gone through and added quotes to wikiquote's article on V for Vendetta.  However, people keep on adding quotes from the movie.  So far, I've just been removing them as they come in.  Is there any other way to keep them out?
Also, I'm thinking that the monologues should be organized into a seperate section so they don't stick out elsewhere.  Any thoughts on this? Simply Curious 03:30, 1 November 2006
: Is there a reason that information complying with WP:V (referenced, verifiable information) should not be included in the article (such as quotes from the movie) ? Terryeo 21:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the quotes are being mixed in with ones from the comics, making it impossible to tell where they're from. Simply Curious 02:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Forgot to add that the movie has its own article. --Simply Curious 20:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiquote 

message: A politician in Taiwan called Li Ao recently disrupted a national defense committee meeting by spraying tear gas while wearing the Guy Fawkes mask from V for Vendetta. Pics Shawnc 21:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something funny 

message: Please people, if you're going to say a topic is racist, make sure you have a cited source.  Wikipedia is no place for original research, all statements must be cited, especially those of possible controversy.  This article was in a list of maintenance tasks simply for the use of one word racist in an uncited fashion.  See wp:v and wp:npov. Great article otherwise.  Alan.ca 07:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racist Characterization 

message: Sorry, why was the article about the comic moved?
Surely it should still be here and then it says at the top "for the film, click here". Because the film is a derrivative work of the comic. rst20xx 20:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and I'm going to move it back. It's a standard on Wikipedia to give the original work the page. We don't disambiguate Sin City, or The Lord of the Rings, or Eragon, or anything else I can think of. The film is an offshoot of the comics, and so should be organized accordingly. Owen 23:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the move?

message: I was considering nominating articles like Valerie Page for deletion, but I figured I should suggest that they be merged into a character list first. If no action is taken for awhile though, I may still nominate it on a later date.--SeizureDog 11:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor characters need merging. 

message: There is a random and juvenile sentence edited into the introductory paragraph of this article, which I accessed for research purposes.  I'm not familiar with how to edit Wikipedia articles yet and don't have time to figure it out right now.  Maybe someone else can fix it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.9.39.242 (talk • contribs).
: I took a look at the paragraph, but I didn’t notice any juvenile sentences.  You can remove it yourself by clicking the edit this page button at the top of the article’s page, or you can point out the exact sentence so that I can remove it.  Thanks. —LOL 05:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone needs to eliminate "vandalism" from first paragraph 

message: "Evey's name is composed of "E" (the fifth letter of the alphabet), "V" (5 in Roman numerals, and the fifth letter from the end of the alphabet), and "Y" (25th letter of the alphabet, or 5 squared)."
Does anyone think this is going a bit too far? Someone should watch the movie, recording every fifth word, and see what message appears.
This is about the book, not the movie. The two are quite different. (71.192.34.220 21:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit of a stretch 

message: This text continues to show up and it does not appear in the edit page or under any area able to be edited.
*"The person
 V is a person I know haha she likes to kill people. Not sure why but what the hell we either  
 call her V, Killiers or the spawn of satanmand/or chick that likes wrestling
 Hello in jons strange voice She said if i don't make this longer she'll kill me
 People that V has sacrificed
I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be there so if someone can take care of it, that'd be great. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.81.122.207 (talk) 17:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, well that's kinda freaky...especially if it's true...but yeah, take it out. I would myself if I wasn't new here and I knew how to take out stuff that doesn't show up in the editor. x] --♥<color=fuchsia>HOLLiSTERiSLOVE</color> 13:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does this show up? 

message: I know it's delightfully dramatic and all, but V is not an idea, he's a character and that's it.  It's silly encyclopaedic prose, and us such, the sentence fragment, "More an idea than a character. . ." should be removed.  Cheers.  Liempt 20:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  V is an idea now? 

message: I'm removing this template from all its articles:
Which, I agree, is fairly provocative. However, I don't see how "V for Vendetta" deserves this on its own, or what useful information it provides. Surely the links in the articles are sufficient? If people want to revert my changes, that's fine by me. But please reply to this post so we can get a discussion started. At the moment I see no reason why the template should exist. Maccy69 13:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted my previous edit and requested a template deletion instead, see below. Maccy69 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  V for Vendetta Template 

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Maccy69 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of [[:Template:{{ucfirst:V for Vendetta}}]] 

message: Points taken from the article and placed here, until we can find a place for them.
*(Closed-circuit television had not yet become common in the UK at the time Moore wrote the series. Today, London has the world's highest concentration of C.C.T.V.)
I will add to this.  The following passage is someone's personal upinion, rambling original research, and as far as I ken it is irrelevant to the article:
:[It is worth noting that the telegraph and Morse code were not invented until after Beethoven's death and well after composition of Symphony #5 hence any connection between Beethoven's theme and the letter V is serendipitous but entirely coincidental.  "Unless the developers of Morse Code liked Beethoven."  A curious idea.  The guiding principle of morse code design was efficiency assigning shorter codes to more frequently used letters (the two most frequent "e" and "t" are dot and dash).  Even if the developers did have such an idea, why would "V" be chosen for the fifth symphony motiv rather than "F" for fate "knocking at Beethoven's door" or perhaps "D" for destiny?  These are the ideas most commonly associated with the fifth symphony. It is most improbable that these designers anticipated WWII, radio, and the propaganda value of "Victory" combined with Beethoven's music, let alone this graphic novel, as reasons to assign the ...- to the letter "V".]
The square brackets were part of the original passage; I did not add them. 71.204.204.249 11:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned points 

message: It appears that someone was having a little fun changing the plot to their liking and while this is slightly comical, it belongs on uncyclopedia.org, not on here. This is one of my favorite movies of all time and it is an abomination to see the page so sabotaged. Someone please change the plot back or correct it or whatever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.175.85 (talk) 06:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the graphic novel, not about the film.  The plots are not identical. Please sign your posts. 71.204.204.249 11:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone change this... 

message: Can whoever wrote this article ask the author Lloyd whether the character Lewis Prothero is based on a real person. I suspect that the name may be taken from John Profumo, a disgraced British politician.
:Sign your posts.  This isn't the place for that kind of request, Wikipedia articles are written collaboratively by an untold number of people, and a little thinking would have answered the question for you.  On what basis do you assume that one is based on the other?  The fact that their names begin in "P" and end in "O"?  The name isn't made up; it's fairly common.  A Google search produces 558,000 results for "prothero"; none of the results in the first two pages have anything to do with V for Vendetta.  The novel's Prothero isn't a politician, he's a broadcaster and a former concentration camp commandant. Profumo was a lifelong civil servant whose father was also a politician.  Prothero is driven irrevocably insane by a drug overdose; Profumo lost his office in a sex scandal in the 1960s but started a new career in charitable fundraising.  Prothero relished in his government's manipulation of the people; Profumo had a distinguished career in the public interest and many now feel that he was unfairly set up by his rivals. Jump in here anytime you see a connection forming.  Oh, and Lloyd was the illustrator, not the author. 71.204.204.249 11:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference

message: If memory serves me correctly (and for such an appropriate flag, I can't think why it wouldn't).  Didn't there use to be a decent flag on this article?  I was a cross between the Union Jack, the American Flag and the Flag of the Third Reich (it had a swastika seamlessly embedded within it).  I just felt that the flag should be included in the article.  Whoever made it spent considerable amounts of laudable time and effort on it.  
--Nukemason 15:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The flag in question only appears in the movie, never in the comic, so it doesn't really belong here. And it's only in one brief scene in the movie, so while it is well done, it probably doesn't merit inclusion in the movie article either. --Le Scoopertemp [tk] 14:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a pannel showing the Government's flag in the comic, but in the comics, the flag used is simply an N on a coloured background (the pannel's in black and white, so I don't know what colour). I just thought someone might find that interesting ;) Thε Halo Θ 01:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe the flag used by "norsefire" in the film is actually a modified flag of York. Black with a red cross with two horizontal lines at the top? The American/Union Jack/Swastika flag made an appearance in a mans hidden cellar but has no bearing on the films plot or the article. I'm sure you could find it in google though. Bloody Sacha 8/31/2007  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.156.140 (talk) 23:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, that's in the film, not the novel.  The Norsefire flag might be relevant to the Norsefire article, but the jack appearing briefly and without comment in Deitrich's secret room was a political parody, not an actual national or party flag.  Unless someone starts an article on the contents of Deitrich's forbidden collection from the film, it has no place here. 71.204.204.249 12:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The FLAG Would Make A Good Desktop Background...  

message: The fact that V's mask has shapes which when looked at correctly appear to be V's, is coincidental, and unimportant. I will remove this section from the article unless reasons or citations that support keeping it are presented by the end of this month (Feb. 29th).Taboo Tongue (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The letter V in V's mask 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Warrior19.jpg

message: This article would be more accurate if it just said:  this plot IS the gunpowder plot, instead of just explaining coincidences.
172.165.195.80 (talk) 03:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gunpowder Plot 

message: Some of the examples mentioned in the section on V/5 are a bit irrelevant in my opinion. (e.g. "V's hand and feet each have five fingers and toes respectively"; "Hugo WeaVing played V in the film"; "Ctrl-V is the 'paste' function on PC computers") Also, putting this information in the form of a numbered list seems kind of pointless when more than one point is listed under each number (unless this is supposed to be another clever instance of the number 5).  Does anyone else agree with me? Stebbins 06:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a feeling that some of the irrelevant V/5 points might be a form of subtle vandalism.  (This is something that has happened on V for Vendetta (film) article as well.)  Just a thought, and something to be aware of.--P-Chan 00:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number 5 Theme 

message: Could someone please add a spoiler alert before the plot section, as it pretty much gives away the entire book? Thanks.
It'd be quite a crap plot section if it didn't...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.93.129 (talk) 18:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler Alert? 

message: I've disambiguated a few things (e.g. "David Lloyd" -> David Lloyd (comic artist)). One thing got me a wee bit, though - the text was "... communion wafer ..."; post-DABing (and with appropriate piping) it now reads "... communion wafer ...". I'm wondering if it would be better to do it like this: "... communion wafer ...". Thoughts? TFOWRpropaganda 12:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  DAB: "communion [wafer]" -> "Eucharist [wafer]" 

message: Too much summary, not enough analysis.  Spoilers should be outlawed o nthis site, its an encyclopedia not a fan site
* I see no problem leaving the summary up, as knowing the plot of such a complicated story is necessary for analysis. Instead, I think the analysis should be added alongside of the summary already written.
    *You said it yourself: "this is an encyclopædia not a fan site". Fan sites usually mark when a spoiler is coming and encyclopedias state things as they really are  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.222.97 (talk) 17:47, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much 

message: V's simple symbol of a V within a circle bears a great deal of similarity to the anarchy symbol, and both tend to be drawn sloppily.
The V for Vendetta symbol already had complete anarchy before V came about after the nuclear war; he knew this. Arguably Evey's job after V quits is to prevent another imperialistic nation from arising from this mess.
* That V symbol was similar to Anarchy does NOT imply that V was indeed an Anarchist, in fact I would like to ask this aumtion to be reconsidered, what do we have as proof to say that he claimed for Anarchy in specific? (User: Tauiris@public_computer)
:* The fact he says so in the comic, perhaps?  Chapter 5, page 5. gz33 (talk) 12:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  V and Anarchy 

message: A number of the more important themes of the book are left out; namely those of terrorism and vigilantism. A large part of the book is questioning the morality of V's actions and the conclusion leaves the effectiveness of V's terrorism ambiguous, in that the cycle appears to repeat itself rather than ending fascism, though an opposite conclusion could be drawn. I would appear upon finishing the book that these are among the most important points of the story, and the real message Moore was attempting to get across. There should definitely be something added about this, I feel. Unfortunately, I currently lack the time to read the book and/or find legitimate sources to add this section. (71.192.34.220 21:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unmentioned Themes

message: Article's been tagged for needing sourcing for over a year. Please feel free to re-incorporate this material, with proper sourcing. Doniago (talk) 20:53, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced Material 

message: The entry on the cultural impact needs to be extended. It mentions Anonymous and a couple of incidents of protests where the mask of V was used. This practice has become quite widespread, the mask of V is now seen in many protests around the world. One very notable example is the protests of the Spanish Revolution which started on the 15th of May 2011 with a mass demonstration. The mask of V was visible in many of the demonstrations around Spain, and one particular image became iconic; a photo of a V-masked protester holding a cardboard sign which reads (in English): "Nobody expects the #spanishrevolution." (possibly a reference to a Monty Python sketch: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."). This particular image has become quite an icon in the protest movement, and the V mask has become a staple of the protesters in the Spanish Revolution or the 15th of May movement seen in demonstrations as well as at the protest camps held in town centres across Spain. 
http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html
http://www.redpepper.org.uk/nobody-expects-the-spanish-revolution/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/19/977371/-No-One-Expects-the-Spanish-Revolution
Sphere2012 (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You should have a go at it!  You've got the links (and probabably remember others that you came across), and a summary that works with them— you're good to go!  Once you've whipped it into a paragraph, I authentically don't know whether its proper and precise place should be here in V_for_Vendetta#Cultural_impact or off in Gunpowder Plot in popular culture#Internet culture. My thin opinion is: here rather than there.But if someone objects, they might delete it from that one place, which feels like your writing being mulched— but that's probably just your cue to move it elsewhere. (I don't think I've ever seen an editor say "this belongs elsewhere, so I'll move it- cut from here, paste into way over there".  I'm guessing that it's because them throwing your paragraph into the other entry might look like they just wrote it right out of the blue; or they figure it's your biz, not theirs, to figure out a better place (altho they might give a hint). Like I say, that's not "this is crap and belongs nowhere", it's "he should put it elsewhere, he'll find where".)  Putting aside the issue of the possibility of what seems like Somebody being dismissive of your hard work, I greatly encourage you to do a little writing, to fill what me and you both feel as a as a Notable gap. Your pal, —Sean M. Burke (talk) 01:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  cultural impact 

message: What's with Timothy Leary and V for Vendetta??  The comments about V for Vendetta and Timothy Leary in the section on Anarchy Vs Fascism... is the third time I've heard the two connected somehow.  The Wachowski Bros make Portman learn about Timothy Leary in order for her to play her role in the film.  And V for Vendetta was one of the last books Timothy Leary read before he died.  
Weird stuff.  This can't be a coincidence.  Anyone know the link?--P-Chan 07:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go read anything about or by Leary.  In fact, his wikipedia entry itself should give pretty good reasons for the link, if you're familiar at all with the comic.  There's the whole LSD episode, for starters.  His quote "tune in, turn on, and drop out" (I think I 'em in the right order) is pretty anarchistic in that it urges you to develop what talents you have, pay attention to the world, and accept no social authority for the sake of social authority.  There's a really interesting picture on Leary's 1972 arrest.  The look on his face is exhilarated, triumphant, and free -- a wonderfully dissonant picture, but besides the photo itself, it's the face of someone who has faced their fear and is now laughing at it.  I'm by no means a Leary admirer myself, but hey, you wanted to know the link.  208.61.125.61 04:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird stuff 

message: Somewhere there should be mention of David J and his EP which was designed as a soundtrack to the graphic novel. In particular the song "This Vicious Cabaret". -- Beardo (talk) 04:29, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  David J 

message: Under the "Plot" section, it currently says "Finch travels to the abandoned site of Larkhill, where he takes LSD. His hallucinations show him his past life, where he was the lover of a black woman who was sent to the concentration camps for her race."
Reading my copy (page 212), I don't see any evidence for this claim; Finch is simply remembering all of the victims of the concentration camps.  He addresses a plurality of people, and we even see dozens of them.
What do you think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.83.248 (talk) 22:09, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finch's Experience at Larkhill 

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Civic Cat (talk) 19:00, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: A little bit of [[Batman]], [[Zorro]], [[Darkman]], and [[Noh]]

message: There is nothing wrong with using the spelling 'colour,' however it does make me question the target audience. A change to color should be considered if a majority of the readers of this article use the American/ sometimes-Canadian spelling. This goes for all of the alternate spellings in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.159.157 (talk) 01:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour vs. Color 

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message: September 1988 - May 1988 does not make sense to me. Would someone in the know confirm/correct? Sejohnson1016 (talk) 20:04, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates of Publication? 

message: I Want Trose. Trose: An Agreement Between Foes Enemies And Rivals Not To Be Fighting Any Longer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.114.100.129 (talk) 04:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: Any page watchers have reliable, secondary sources for the unsourced text? Otherwise the next step is removing it czar 22:47, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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message: I wonder if a "see also" section is warranted. Any of these titles or heroes?
*A Clockwork Orange
*Nineteen Eighty-Four
*Batman
*Zorro
*Lone Ranger
*Watchmen
*Sin City
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thread_title:  See also 

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