Talk:Lech, Czech, and Rus'

message: Can we stop moving the article? Just leave the second comma in, I know it's wrong but some people won't listen.
:Where do the South Slavs come from then?Cameron Nedland 20:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clearing that up.Cameron Nedland 01:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: Recent archeology appears to confirm the mythic foundations of the Slavs
The earliest evidence of "modern man" in Europe some 45,000 years ago was located south of the Don River in Russia
From this point -- apparently all of Europe was populated by the decedents of the mythic 3 brothers who were hunting and who followed their prey in different directions:
North & East -- Rus;
North and West -- Lech;
South and West -- Czech
see the link:
[http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/article2146126.ece
 Belfast_Telegraph_Article_on_Early_Europeans]
Since they were hunter-gatherers at that point in time and arrived from the East -- perhaps the myth is some "folk memory" {e.g. orally passed down through the 1000's of generations via some ritual} of the process of "modern man's" entry into Europe
--Westhighlander 20:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archeological Confirmation? 

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thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Czech Wikipedian's notice board]]

message: Why it is called like this? It would be bettet to separate all those three personalities as they are not widely know everywhere.--Juan de Vojníkov (talk) 21:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: The name Bohemia (Čechy) has at least two slightly different meanings. 1) Bohemia proper (historical land - země), which is the "core" of the country and 2) Bohemia as a country/state as a whole, historically Bohemian Crown (Země Koruny české, Corona regni Bohemiae), now called the Czech Republic (it is now called with a modern -sko suffix - "Česko" in Czech to make a clear difference between these two meanings). The former kingdom became the republic and the traditional English name of the "Bohemian" nation (and language) was changed to "Czech" (probably to sound more Slavic and to distinguish it from German-speaking Bohemians). In this case, the second meaning should be preferred since we are talking about founding of "nations", not historical regions or other country subdivisions. Qertis (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying that Praotec Čech founded not only Čechy, but also Moravia and Silesia? — Kpalion(talk) 18:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Čech is a legendary founder of the Czech (Bohemian) state/nation, which originally (according to historians) encompassed only central Bohemia proper ("land"), later spread to roughly present-day borders of Bohemia proper and later on expanded to other territories (Moravia, Silesia, etc.). These newer acquisitions retained various degrees of autonomy which further varied over time and, while being part of the Bohemian/Czech state (since 14th century known as "Crown"), didn't de-iure become part of Bohemia proper. Qertis (talk) 15:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

text:  I agree with Qertis, but let me emphasize that the word “Bohemia” (in English) is used only as the equivalent of “Čechy” (i.e., one part of the Lands of the Czech crown or the current Czech republic), never for the whole Czech republic (or Czechia). Ceplm (talk) 14:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bohemia 

message: in the ancient times, the most accurate historical evidence was the spoken word from father to son. in the article in the russian wikipedia "чех, лех и рус", it says that their place of origin was pannonian basin. so, you see. it really is "Behind the carpathians", but from adriatic side.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.126.219.110 (talk) 14:05, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: spoken word

message: Gbook hits:
*Lech, Czech and Rus (ca. 90), en
*Lech, Czech i Rus (44), pl
*Čech, Lech a Rus (31), cz
*Чех, Лех и Рус (29), ru
*Czech, Lech and Rus (23), en
*Čeh, Leh, i Rus (21), sh
*Лех, Чех, и Рус (18), ru
*Рус, Чех и Лех (11), ru
*Lech, Čech a Rus (7), cz
*Lech, Čech, and Rus (3), en
--Zoupan 11:57, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: I removed the following sentences as it was difficult to determine what was actually meant: "Widest and probably the truth farthest is the Wenceslaus Hajek description (1530s), which adds a range of details, including the exact date of Čech arrival, year 644. He also elevates the two to Dukes and claims that they had already owned a castles in their homeland." Please rephrase before readding. --Khajidha (talk) 11:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Khajidha, what is unclear in it? It describes the Wenceslaus Hajek's version of the story. Jirka.h23 (talk) 12:24, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "Widest and probably the truth farthest" is nonsense, the sequence of words has no meaning in English. --Khajidha (talk) 13:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, sorry for my bad English. Is the word "widest" or "the truth farthest" nonsense? Is: "longest and probably farthest from the truth" better? Jirka.h23 (talk) 12:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, okay. I have rephrased it as "Wenceslaus Hajek's version from the 1530s adds many (probably fanciful) details not found in other sources. According to Hajek, the brothers were dukes who had already owned castles in their homeland before their arrival in the region." --Khajidha (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I still do not understand what was unclear in it. Never mind, now I am missing there alleged date of Čech arrival (644). Jirka.h23 (talk) 18:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It was unclear because those words would never be used in that manner in English. I was completely baffled as to what it could mean on first reading it. Upon reading your suggestion of "longest and probably farthest from the truth" I understood what you were trying to say. I rephrased it to simplify the sentence construction as it was easy to get lost in all the commas. I'll work the date in if someone else hasn't already.--Khajidha (talk) 12:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear 

message: The section “Czech version” is a bit confusing because it puts together genuine medieval and Renaissance chronicles (Dalimil, Kosmas, Václav Hájek z Libočan) with Alois Jirásek who was a novelist of the late 19th and early 20th century.
Ceplm (talk) 14:58, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alois Jirásek 

message: In the Chronica Poloniae Maioris, where this myth is firstly mentioned, no single word is said about the present day Muscovy, the only Russians in there are Ukrainians.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noteworthiness (talk • contribs) 20:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What is your suggestion about article content? 20:59, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rus 

message: Noticed a recent change in regards to Brother Rus having another name of "Mech" that was historically changed. There is no source provided, and I was not able to find any sources on this with a cursory search. Either please add a source or remove. 2001:1C00:1412:9D00:2CDD:A83C:AF51:5D42 (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brother Mech