Talk:Gin Ichimaru

message: This is Gin's full name, Gin is a short form for Ginyote, so shouldn't his true name be listed in the article???
When Gin meets Rukia, who was taken to her execution, he tells her that she should adress him as such.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 (talk • contribs).
:That never happened in the manga. Only the anime ever mentions that name. Gdo01 06:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ichimaru Ginyote

message: While his final release hasn't been seen in the actual series, various Bleach console games (such as Bleach DS) have depicted it. Gin fires Shinsō into the sky, causing swords similar to Shinsō's unreleased state to rain all around him.
Can this be considered as canon?? Had Tite Kubo anything to do with this?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 (talk) 06:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how canon it is but if you are caught up with the manga, you'll see that Kaien's shikai is the same one from the game. This makes it likely that they ask Kubo's permission or Kubo gives them the idea. Gdo01 06:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard, however, that the described ability isn't necessarily his bankai in the game, just a super rank special move. I don't know personally. --tjstrf talk 06:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My personal opinion is that it isn't a bankai since it is way too similar to Suzumushi's sword attack and thats a shikai. Gdo01 06:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can somebody check for me if in episode 62 when Gin gets his sword taken from him before he was gonna kill rukia,he doesn't get it back right?when the negashion goes to him,his sword isn't given back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.70.152.98 (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have that ep anymore, but since a Zanpakuto (sp?) cannot be recreated, only repaired, we have to assume that he either did get it back, or it is simply a continuity mistake by the writers. Those do happen in every show from time to time.  To err is human, afterall. Cobratom 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol, look closely at the hilt, its Rangiku's zanpakuto. Its looks like a cat see. About the bankai thing, I doubt its his actual bankai, I think its just an ability of Shinso. For example, in Heat the Soul 4, Byakuya and Hitsugaya had to say "Bankai" to activate it, but Gin never said that. He just says his usual, "Ikorose, Shinso".--Hanaichi 05:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: In Bleach DS, he says "Rain, Yarisazame", actually.  I'm also pretty sure that those swords that come raining down are the released shikai form, not the unreleased wakizashi form.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.100.41 (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would be the attack name.  His bankai turns the sword into a corrosive dust and reforms it at a different length in rapid succession, making it look like the sword is able to extend and retract at a high velocity.  It's name, "God-Killing Spear", is a foreshadowing of what he does with it.  This is just speculation, but Renji created his bankai specifically for the purpose of defeating Byakuya; the name of Gin's bankai and how he uses it make it sound like Gin created his bankai specifically for the purpose of killing Aizen.  75.157.120.15 (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bankai

message: I see no problem in mentioning the point of Kenpachi calling Gin a coward, but to say that he is correct in his identification is pushing one's opinion. Other than what Kenpachi stated, we have nothing to back it up. The article can get the point across just fine without the word "correctly". The fact that there is disagreement among the issue shows that it is opinion. It is not a fact that can be soundly stated like "Ichigo is Isshin's son" or "Gin knew Matsumoto as a child". Saying Kenpachi said it is one thing, but saying he was correct in his assumptions is pure conjecture. Talchum (talk) 05:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fear of Death

message: It says that he became captain of the 3rd division around the time Byakuya became captain of the 6th. Where does it say that? Is this just a guess cause of the way they talk? or some extra fact added by the author during an interview?
Also, when in the anime/manga does it say that he talked to Rukia causing her to fear him? A lot of the other soul reapers didn't seem to like him very much anyways and i'm pretty sure that includes Rukia. I think there was only one time that they directly talked in the past so it seems like someone just added that in based off of a guess. 
Those two things need a reference cause I don't think I've ever read it in the manga or the anime.
Alexyasha (talk) 04:34 PM January 1st  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.97 (talk) 22:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Past?

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AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio and deletion

message: What does Ichimaru mean, I know Gin means 'silver' but what does 'Ichimaru' mean? Uzumaki Dude (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Last Name Meaning

message: I was just wondering, is it truly, truly necessary for this article to provide an image of Gin's open eyes? I mean, it's great, and it has no copyright vio's, but I'm not sure if it's notable/illustrating a major aspect of the article. Feel free to prove me wrong. IceUnshattered (talk) 23:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Illustrating appearance. Might as well show his open eyes since the other one doesn't. StardustDragon 19:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image--eyes 

message: Is an article on Gin ichimaru really necessary? the article is too short and its only for the sake of fans. This really isn't necessary. i suggest you just delete this, or merge it with the "list of soul reapers in bleach" the same thing with all other soul reaper characters that have a separate article but too little information. the article is far too short to be an independent article. Also gin ichimaru isn't on of the main antagonist or protagonist. He has the least influence on the series, though he did help out aizen in his plan,  he did not to very much after that. To be honest if you see this in a more professional view, you will see that its more of an article for the sake of fans.Haseo445 (talk) 16:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not just about the length, it's that there is outside sources for this article, which other articles which were previously merged lacked. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 18:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm going to have to agree that this article doesn't really need to exist. It's fine having information on the character like all the other Soul Reapers, but simply merge it into the article that contains all the "other" ones, seeing as there isn't enough information to really validate him having his own article. Hell, I'd say Tousen has more of a story than this guy, or atleast more of it has been shown. But does that mean he deserves his own article? Definitely not, which is why he too is merged with all the rest of the Reapers. SimplyAwesomeAJ (talk) 12:19, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Really, the only thing that dignifies a character having their own article is air time, as the more air time there is for each character, the more they are developed. Gin Ichimaru has come to a stand still when it comes to development, therefore, this needs to be merged into the "List of Soul Reapers" article. SimplyAwesomeAJ (talk) 12:19, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Air time has little influence on whether a character gets an article. It's the amount of out-of-universe information on the character that matters. Gin has some decent reception information, Tosen does not. That's the difference between them. ~SnapperTo 21:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this article really necessary? 

message: other media will be removed. other than the fact that the info is really trivial seeing as the other media is still part of the bleach series, there is also no sources or citations. So i removed it. Most of these dont have any references you all better get something....Bread Ninja (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  other media 

message: Doesn't Gin qualify for the List of fictional spies, since he was technically a double agent?  The only reason he betrayed Soul Society was to kill Aizen. 207.216.206.244 (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, before he tried to kill aizen he described himself as a snake, "Swallowing down those that look tasty". I think he's still one of the bad guys. I guess Aizen just looked 'tasty' to Gin after Aizen acquired his new power.--84.192.7.219 (talk) 11:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope.  Gin pulled an Itachi: he faked being evil and joined the villain for most of the series, only to reveal that he was only "evil" to learn the villain's weaknesses and avenge a loved one.  So Gin was a good guy after all.  173.180.64.146 (talk) 08:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A good guy? 

message: "An interesting, though little-known fact, is that during the initial character design stages, producers and Kubo himself, believed the only choice for the role of Gin's voice actor would go to singer and ex-Genesis member Phil Collins. Collins was not known for his animation voice-over work, least of all in the field of anime, but the crew were determined that he was the ideal candidate. Unfortunately, Collins turned down the opportunity however it is rumoured that the track "Don't Get Me Started" from Collins' 2002 album "Testify" is a mournful, yet resentful, assessment of his decision and presumably his regret at having not agreed to the producer's early requests"
This should be deleted. Not only is it ridiculous, but it is un-cited and a quick google search finds absolutely nothing to support this. (75.181.20.88 (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phil Collins?