Talk:List of characters in the Honorverse

message: All characters should have a reference info - which book(s) they appeared in. I have expanded this with a list from my old website (see summary for link, now in Internat Archive). Another old website to be assimilated: .--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 11:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates 

message: * transform this ugly list into a nice looking one. I suggest basing it on List of Star Trek characters. We will obviously have no picture, I'd also suggest replacing rank and position with short description and adding info on in which books (short stories) character appreared in
::You want us to do a table?
* technical note: Adam Smith is preffered to Smith, Adam or <Smith> (brrr...)
* should we ilink all characters, or only major ones? Ilinking all will give us lots of red links but will allow us to spot some newly created stubs (or disambis in need of creation). It will also save us the need to ilink an article once it is created...
Comments?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Linking everything will be a major pain in the neck.  I think we would be better off looking for orphaned articles with Google, and not worrying too much about the disambigs.  --*Kat* 02:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I think you are right. I have created the table, now we need to expand it.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 15:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Kewl.  You know, something that would make it "prettier" is if we used icons to denote things like Havenite, Manticoran, and Andermandi.  We could have variations of those icons to denote other things like Navy, Politician.  Just a brainstorm. --*Kat* 09:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I thought about it, but we have basically no graphics we can use :( I recently uploaded a tiny flag of mantiocre, but it's a pain to work with so few images. It would be great if we had a logo for each nation and organization, and for the ships, a silhouette with size depending on class...--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for being gone for so long.  Since we don't have any graphics to use, why don't we make some? -- *Kat* 06:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: A remark about "Deacon" Anders: I checked the electronic copies of my books and I found nothing there to suggest that "Deacon" is anything else than his title, much less his first name. --jaellee 20:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, fixed.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do 

message: For those who don't know, all Honor books are searchable online, however the database access is restricted for obvious reasons. For adress, login and pass ask on Baen's Bar, Honorverse or BuShip sections.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful tool 

message: Good job! If we tidy this up further, perhaps we have a chance at WP:FL.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good job!

message: Several of the names are linked to articles that don't exist.  Did they exist at one point and get deleted, or was someone thinking those particular characters deserved their own pages?  I think ideally the links should be removed unless/until the corresponding articles are actually created. -- Heptite (T) (C) (@) 07:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Red links, usually, indicate articles in need of creation and should be retained unless one think they are not notable. On that subject, I think quite a few of existing character stubs are minor characters, not notable, that should be merged into this list.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  11:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where's the harm in keeping them?--*Kat* 19:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am far from deletionist, but see #Important (from WP:FICTION). Some of them may get proded and deleted, without us noticing, I am afraid.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically this is the concern I have with the linked names--both for those that have articles and those that don't; most of them aren't important characters and don't really deserve their own article, and there are several "major" characters that aren't linked at all. -- Heptite (T) (C) (@) 04:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to nonexistent articles 

message: While trying to add book references I've noticed there's quite a few inconsistencies in the article (not necessarily errors, though I'm sure there's plenty of those as well).  Examples: The syntax used in the descriptions is very haphazard. Several of the descriptions have names that are linked to other sections, but not always.  Honor's name spelled out in many places, is HH in others, and is sometimes linked.... It goes on. I will try to gradually fix problems, but I could sure use help. -- Heptite (T) (C) (@) 08:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies 

message: I tried to create a new table to hold the book title names, and while it looks great, the Explanation of Abbreviations table keeps trying to float next to it.  Nothing I have tried has fixed the problem.  If its not fixed by the end of the week, I'm all for reverting it, but hopefully some bright person can figure out where I went wrong.
--*Kat* 06:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another new table

message: There is now a tag suggesting merger of the treecat list article with this one. The edit comment suggests that it would be a return to the parent article. This is a misapprehension. The orginal article from which that list was extracted is treecat (see the talk). It has never at any time been a part of the present article.
While treecats are (or two in particular) full characters, and those of the rest who have been identified probably belong in the present list for completeness, the list of treecat article, and the annotations which it contains are somewhat out of step with this article. Too complete, no list of books in which appear, etc. That list was specially crafted as a sort of oppendix to the treecat article and the annotationw were originally intended to supplement it, partially to avoid too much detail in the article itself, and partly to avoid spoilers, insofar as possible. 
By all means transfer in the treecat characters to this article, but the content in the treecat list article should not be lost. I myself think it ought to be restored to its orignal position and purpose in the treecat article. 
Comments from others?? ww 02:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: makes sense to me.--*Kat* 04:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: disagree, that article is 145 kbs long, adding will only make it longer--HoneymaneHeghlu meH QaQ jajvam 03:26, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no hard and fast length limit on articles. This objection is off point a bit. We are writing an encyclopedia, whose virtue is clarity for the Reader, not minimum use of storage bits. ww 18:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I was source of the merge proposal.  Apologies for my misinterpretation of where the other list came from.  The format of this main character list is excellent and comprehensive; my hope and intent was that the treecat list should be included herein and brought up to this standard.  I think it would be unwieldy in the treecat article, and merging that direction would still allow two non-overlapping lists of characters.  I'd do the merging myself, but there's information missing to fill in the needed chart entries, and I'm not familiar enough with the setting.  Serpent's Choice 13:45, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you now suggest. If it is to add treecat characters to the Honorverse list, I concur. The current list of treecats is poorly formatted for this however, and containe information not suited to the Honverse list. With a good bit of editing perhaps... There is no reason I can see to avoid overlaping. Parsimon is a virtue, but can be overdone. I still favor reinclusion in the treecat artciel. ww 18:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: removed merge notice. It's been quite a while. Most of the cats have been included here in any case. ww 22:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: proposed merge here of [[list of treecats]] 

message: The short section on Honor Harrington concludes with the sentence 'Mother of two.'.  My reading of "At All Costs" indicates that she only has one child. Does anyone have areference for 'two'? Murray Langton (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  HH mother of two? 

message: Does 'Storm from the Shadows' count as a Main Honor Harrington Series book, or as a Saganami Island series book?  I'd like to add information about it, but I hesitate to decide which category to select...
LP-mn (talk) 05:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Q re 'Storm from the Shadows' 

message: Would anyone mind if I split the various alphabet lists up into groups of ROUGHLY ten (10) names per sub-list?
LP-mn (talk) 01:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Try it, and we will see how it looks.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  01:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  split the various alphabet lists up into groups of ROUGHLY ten (10) each? 

message: Done.  Page splitting/redesign finished.  I hope people like it.
LP-mn (talk) 03:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Done.  Page splitting/redesign finished.  I hope people like it. 

message: Does anybody have any comments about the shortcut bar I've inserted at four locations?  If people like, it, I can keep pasting it in.  If it's a flop, please let me know.
LP-mn (talk) 06:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New shortcut bar inserted at letters A, B, Y & Z.  Comments??? 

message: "We're due to dine with Baroness Medusa and Mr. Van Dort this evening, Milady," Khumalo said. "At that time, I have no doubt that she and Mr. O'Shaughnessy — and Commander Chandler, my intelligence officer — will be as eager as I am to hear everything you can tell us about the situation at home and this proposed summit meeting between Her Majesty and Pritchart. And I'm also confident that the Baroness and Mr. O'Shaughnessy well have a rather more detailed briefing for you on the political side of events here in the Cluster. I mean, Quadrant."
LP-mn (talk) 04:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SI2, Ch. 14 

message: The content in Rafael Cardones is very small, even for a stub. It goes along the same lines as the description of him in this article. So in my opinion that article should be merged into this one. And isn't that precisely the function of this article? Your opinions please. Debresser (talk) 21:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: What happened to the list of books at the 'List of Honorverse Characters' page?
It's integral to the understanding of the page's abbreviations.  I hope it was deleted by mistake, and not someone's editing decision.
LP-mn (talk) 23:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the list of books at the 'List of Honorverse Characters' page? 

message: I recently received an E-mail response from David Mattingly that stated he would grant permission to post clippings of his portrayals of individual characters that he has featured on his Honorverse artwork. 
Some of these are featured at http://www.davidmattingly.com/Pages/HONORHA.html
This is NOT going to be a high priority project for me, but I figured I should bring it up so that it can be discussed.  
Examples of things to discuss: 
* If you take a look at this image
     http://www.davidmattingly.com/Pages/Honor_Harrington/HONORSHORT.html
  It's clear who the two characters are in the background.  (I forget now, I'm too tired & it's late.  One's a Ship Surgeon, the other a close friend.)
* On the other hand, if you look at this image
     http://www.davidmattingly.com/Pages/Honor_Harrington/HONORFIELD.html
  Mattingly himself is the best source for who is who. 
* and on the Third hand, a higher quality alternate version of this image
     http://www.davidmattingly.com/Pages/Honor_Harrington/HONORFLAG..html
  has a lot of Honorverse fans portrayed as members of the Grayson Upper House of Keys (my terminology mish-mash),  some of these David remembered who is who, some he did not.
Before posting these images to specific character descriptions, we should discuss which ones to use for which characters, and which ones just do not have enough data to use at all. 
LP-mn (talk) 04:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  DISCUSS:  Use clips of David Mattingly's cover artwork; permission HAS been granted 

message: Main Honor Harrington series	Main Honor Harrington series                       	Main Honor Harrington series	Main Honor Harrington series
HH0                         	Ms. Midshipwoman Harrington*1*                     	HH7                         	In Enemy Hands
HH1                         	On Basilisk Station                                	HH8                         	Echoes of Honor
HH2                         	The Honor of the Queen                             	HH9                         	Ashes of Victory
HH3                         	The Short Victorious War                           	HH10                        	War of Honor
HH4                         	Field of Dishonor                                  	HH11                        	At All Costs
HH5                         	Flag in Exile                                      	HH12                        	Mission of Honor*2* (expected 2009 or 2010)
HH6                         	Honor Among Enemies                                	HH13                        	___
Spin off Series             	Spin off Series                                    	Spin off Series             	Spin off Series
Wages of Sin                	Wages of Sin                                       	Saganami Island series      	Saganami Island series
WS1                         	Crown of Slaves                                    	SI1                         	The Shadow of Saganami
WS2                         	_Crown_of_Slaves_2_*3* (future book, title unknown)	SI2                         	Storm from the Shadows (due March 2009)
WS3                         	___                                                	SI3                         	_Storm_from_the_Shadows_2_ (future book, title unknown)*4*
Anthologies                 	Anthologies                                        	Anthologies                 	Anthologies
HHA1                        	More Than Honor                                    	HHA2                        	Worlds of Honor
HHA3                        	Changer of Worlds                                  	HHA4                        	Service of the Sword
*1* Short story in the anthology The Warmasters (multi-author multi-universe collection) republished in Changer of Worlds.
*2* Title (and little else) referred to by the Author (David Weber) in his 4-page An Authorial Notehttp://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/SS.EMS/DavidWeber.pdf.
*3* and *4* FFI, see the FIRST and LAST sentence in Author's May 15, 2008 quote.
This was removed by user:debresser to be replaced by a nav template at the bottom of the page... but this is a legend/key, so that doesn't seem appropriate. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know there's some duplication, but the utility of the page is improved this way. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 20:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  excised table 

message: Unless some new reasons appear, it would seem that the result of the previous discussion (late 2006, see discussion section above) should govern this time as well. ww (talk) 07:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No merge, the list was deleted instead, per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Treecat 70.29.213.241 (talk) 07:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: renewed proposal to merge [[list of treecats]] into this article 

message: The 09:45, April 25, 2009 (UTC) version of this article has been transwikified to the Honorverse Wiki in order to save its content from deletion. -- SaganamiFan 09:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transwikification 

message: If you'll look at the entries for "Rozsak, Luiz" & "Angela Ryder", you'll notice that I've used different terminology for a character's Description/Appearance.  Does anyone have an opinion as to which method is "better" or more "standard"? </br>LP-mn (talk) 02:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you specify this here, please? Debresser (talk) 10:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

text: The only difference I noticed is that in Rozsak, Luiz you linked the book in the description and in the "Appeared in" column, while in Angela Ryder you linked the book only in the description. Is that it? Debresser (talk) 21:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that's not what I meant.  In fact, I've now modified HH6 to be HH6 for the above example.  What I'm talking about is, I suppose you'd call it more 'subtle'.  Is the phrase "Appearance (WS02, Ch. 1): '...dark, trim man" better or worst than the phrase "Desc. from HH6, Ch. 17: "...as dark-haired as Hibson"?  I've used both methods, and would like to fix on just one method.  Opinions anyone???</br>
LP-mn (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Since the column is called "Description" I think neither "Appearance" nor "Desc." is needed. Debresser (talk) 06:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Desc. versus Appearance...   standard??? 

message: 2 questions...</br>  
</br>
What's wrong with the html-like "code" for this entry's last column?</br>
and</br>
Can anyone explain the data discrepancy?</br>
LP-mn (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is because of the "enters" you used. Don't use them. That is what the  code is for. Debresser (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: No idea what you mean by "I've taken it out now". I had fixed it already. Debresser (talk) 06:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bouchard, Jerod 

message: See subject line. 
Character                                                 	Affiliation	Description                                                                                                         	Appeared in
Hemphill, Sonja                                           	RMN        	Admiral, Fourth Space Lord, Royal Manticoran Navy.                                                                  	SI2
Henke, Gloria Michelle Samantha Evelyn, Countess Gold Peak	RMN        	Vice Admiral, CO 10th Fleet; Elizabeth Winton's first cousin; fifth in succession for the throne of Manticore.      	SI2
Henke, Gloria Michelle Samantha Evelyn, Countess Gold Peak	RMN        	Rear Admiral, CO, battlecruiser squadron 81. Later vice admiral.                                                    	SI2
Hennessy, Coleman                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, Sonja Hemphill's chief of staff.                                                              	SI2
Henning, Vivienne                                         	MAN        	Lieutenant Commander, staff astrogator, Task Force One.                                                             	SI2
Hongbo, Junyan                                            	_          	Vice-Commissioner, Lorcan Verrochio's senior OFS subordinate, Madras Sector.                                        	SI2
Horn, Alexandra ("Alex")                                  	RMN        	Commander, XO, HMS Ajax .                                                                                           	SI2
Houseman, Frazier                                         	RMN        	Commander, XO, HMS Penelope . Acting chief of staff, Battlecruiser Division 106.1.                                  	SI2
Huppé, Honorine                                           	_          	Minister of Trade, New Tuscany.                                                                                     	SI2
Hurskainen, President Stanley                             	_          	President of the Mannerheim System Republic.                                                                        	SI2
Imbar, Efron                                              	_          	a reporter for Star Kingdom News.                                                                                   	SI2
Inbari, Mazal                                             	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, staff astrogator, Cruiser Squadron 94.                                                        	SI2
Jackson, Aphrodite                                        	RMN        	Lieutenant, electronic warfare officer, HMS Reprise .                                                               	SI2
Jackson, Thor                                             	RMN        	Lieutenant, astrogator, HMS Roland.                                                                                 	SI2
Jacobi, Rachel                                            	MAN        	Captain, CO, freighter Wallaby .                                                                                    	SI2
Jeffers, Sherilyn                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant, electronics warfare officer, HMS Tristram.                                                              	SI2
Jenkins, Vladislava                                       	SLN        	Captain, logistics officer, Frontier Fleet Task Group 3021.                                                         	SI2
Johansen, Barnabé                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, astrogator, HMS Quentin Saint-James .                                                         	SI2
Kaminski, Albert                                          	RMN        	Lieutenant, communications officer, Battlecruiser Squadron 81.                                                      	SI2
Kaneshiro, Naomi                                          	RMN        	Missile Tech 1/c , HMS Tristram.                                                                                    	SI2
Kaplan, Naomi                                             	RMN        	Commander, tactical officer, HMS Hexapuma . Later CO, HMS Tristram .                                                	SI2
Karlberg, Emil                                            	_          	Commodore, senior officer, Nuncio Space Force.                                                                      	SI2
Kenichi, Otmar                                            	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Marconi Williams.                                                                                  	SI2
Khumalo, Augustus                                         	RMN        	Vice Admiral, senior officer, Talbot Station.                                                                       	SI2
Kingsford, Winston Seth                                   	SLN        	Fleet Admiral, CO, Battle Fleet, Solarian League Navy.                                                              	SI2
Kittow, Joshua                                            	RMN        	Captain, XO, HMS Quentin Saint-James .                                                                              	SI2
Kolokoltsov, Innokentiy Arsenovich                        	_          	Permanent Senior Undersecretary for Foreign Affairs, Solarian League.                                               	SI2
Kolosov, Peter                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant, XO, HMS Reprise .                                                                                       	SI2
Kolstad, Felicidad                                        	MAN        	Commander, operations officer, Task Force One.                                                                      	SI2
Krietzmann, Henri                                         	_          	Minister of War, Talbott Quadrant.                                                                                  	SI2
L'anglais, Prosper                                        	_          	Captain, CO, New Tuscan merchant ship Hélène Blondeau.                                                              	SI2
Lababibi, Samiha                                          	_          	former President of the Spindle System; Treasury Minister, Talbott Quadrant.                                        	SI2
Landry, Bridget                                           	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, CO, HMS Dagger.                                                                               	SI2
Laszlo, András                                            	_          	Commodore, senior officer, Spindle System Navy.                                                                     	SI2
Laycock, Mariane                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Julian Lister .                                                                                    	SI2
Le Vern, Herschel                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant, logistics officer, HMS Quentin Saint-James.                                                             	SI2
Lecter, Cynthia                                           	RMN        	Captain (JG), chief of staff, Battlecruiser Squadron 106; later chief of staff, 10th Fleet.                         	SI2
Lewis, Ginger                                             	RMN        	Commander, chief engineer, HMS Hexapuma .                                                                           	SI2
Lewis, Stillwell ("Stilt")                                	RMN        	Commander, operations officer, Cruiser Squadron 94.                                                                 	SI2
Low Delhi, Baroness                                       	_          	see Admiral Sonja Hemphill.                                                                                         	SI2
Lynch, Horace                                             	RMN        	Commander, tactical officer, HMS Quentin Saint-James .                                                              	SI2
MacArtney, Nathan                                         	_          	Permanent Senior Undersecretary of the Interior, Solarian League.                                                   	SI2
MacKechie, Esmé                                           	RMMC       	Major, CO, Marine detachment, HMS Artemis .                                                                         	SI2
MacMinn, Eachann                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Duke of Cromarty.                                                                                  	SI2
MaCuill, Willard                                          	SLN        	Captain, staff communications officer, Frontier Fleet Task Group 3021.                                              	SI2
MaGuire, Alice                                            	RMN        	Master Chief, bosun, HMS Ajax .                                                                                     	SI2
Manfredi, Oliver                                          	RMN        	Commander, chief of staff, Battlecruiser Squadron 81.                                                               	SI2
Markussen, Leontina                                       	_          	Minister of Education and Information, Solarian League.                                                             	SI2
Maslov, Isaiah                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant, EWO, HMS Artemis .                                                                                      	SI2
Masters, Eric                                             	MAN        	Captain, CO, MANS Chameleon ; Karol Østby's flag captain.                                                           	SI2
Matsuko, Dame Estelle                                     	_          	Baroness Medusa, Imperial Governor, Talbott Quadrant.                                                               	SI2
McClelland, Martin                                        	MAN        	Commander, staff electronics warfare officer, Task Force One.                                                       	SI2
McCormick, Clinton                                        	RMN        	Lieutenant, tracking officer, Perimeter Security Command, Manticore Binary System.                                  	SI2
McGill, Heather                                           	RMN        	Lieutenant, tactical officer, HMS Reprise .                                                                         	SI2
McIver, Dabney                                            	RMN        	Commander, chief of staff, Battlecruiser Division 106.2.                                                            	SI2
Medusa, Baroness                                          	_          	see Dame Estelle Matsuko.                                                                                           	SI2
Metcalf, Jansen                                           	_          	Mesan ambassador to New Tuscany.                                                                                    	SI2
Mikhailov, Diego                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Ajax .                                                                                             	SI2
Miskin, Edward                                            	RMN        	Commander, CO, HMS Galahad.                                                                                         	SI2
Mizawa, Warden                                            	SLN        	Captain, CO, SLNS Jean Bart; Josef Byng's flag captain.                                                             	SI2
Molyneux, Gladys                                          	RMN        	Lieutenant (JG), junior tactical officer, HMS Tristram.                                                             	SI2
Monahan, Rachel                                           	RMN        	Ensign, midshipwoman assigned to midshipman's cruise, HMS Reprise .                                                 	SI2
Montella, Atalante                                        	RMN        	Lieutenant, communications officer, Cruiser Squadron 94.                                                            	SI2
Morgan, Frank                                             	GSN        	Captain (JG), CO, HMS Gawain. Jacob Zavala's flag captain.                                                          	SI2
Musgrave, Franklin                                        	GSN        	Senior Chief Petty Officer, bosun, HMS Tristram.                                                                    	SI2
Myau, Zhin                                                	RMN        	Surgeon Lieutenant, ship's surgeon, HMS Quentin Saint-James.                                                        	SI2
Nagchaudhuri, Amal                                        	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, communications officer, HMS Hexapuma .                                                        	SI2
Nelson, Gordon                                            	SLN        	Rear Admiral, CO, Battlecruiser Squadron 201.                                                                       	SI2
Ning, Kwo-Lai                                             	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Romulus .                                                                                          	SI2
Noorlander, Harbrecht                                     	_          	Treasury Minister, Solarian League.                                                                                 	SI2
O'Malley, Quentin                                         	RMN        	Vice Admiral, CO, Task Group 302.1.                                                                                 	SI2
O'Reilly, Wanda                                           	RMN        	Lieutenant, communications officer, HMS Tristram.                                                                   	SI2
O'Shaughnessy, Gregor                                     	_          	Dame Estelle Matsuko's senior civilian intelligence analyst.                                                        	SI2
Ødegaard, Mateuz                                          	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, staff intelligence officer, Cruiser Squadron 94.                                              	SI2
Olson, Lori                                               	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, operations officer, Destroyer Squadron 301.                                                   	SI2
Onassis, Shulamit                                         	RMN        	Commodore, senior officer, Battlecruiser Division 106.2.                                                            	SI2
Orban, Commander Lajos                                    	RMN        	Surgeon Lieutenant, ship's doctor, HMS Hexapuma .                                                                   	SI2
Østby, Commodore Karol                                    	MAN        	CO, Task Group 1.1.                                                                                                 	SI2
Ottweiler, Valery                                         	_          	a senior diplomat for the Mesa System.                                                                              	SI2
Oversteegen, Michael                                      	RMN        	Rear Admiral, CO, Battlecruiser Squadron 108.                                                                       	SI2
Pélisard, Nicholas                                        	_          	Minister of War, New Tuscany.                                                                                       	SI2
Pershing, John                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, CO, HMS Raven.                                                                                	SI2
Petersen, Linda                                           	RMN        	Lieutenant, astrogator, HMS Javelin .                                                                               	SI2
Pettigrew, Isaiah                                         	GSN        	Sensor Tech 1/c, HMS Tristram.                                                                                      	SI2
Pickering, Henry                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Daedalus .                                                                                         	SI2
Pope, Tom                                                 	RMN        	Commander, chief of staff, Cruiser Squadron 94.                                                                     	SI2
Quartermain, Omosupe                                      	_          	Permanent Senior Undersecretary of Commerce, Solarian League.                                                       	SI2
Rajampet, Kaushal Rajani                                  	SLN        	Fleet Admiral, chief of naval operations, Solarian League Navy.                                                     	SI2
Ratté, Oliver                                             	_          	an employee of the New Tuscany Ministry of Information.                                                             	SI2
Razumovsky, Lex                                           	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Malachai.                                                                                          	SI2
Redmont, Pierre                                           	RHN        	Admiral, CO, "Bogey Two," Battle of Solon.                                                                          	SI2
Redondo, Consuela                                         	_          	a reporter for the Sphinx News Association.                                                                         	SI2
Richardson, Osama                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant, chief engineer, HMS Reprise .                                                                           	SI2
Roach, Hal                                                	RMN        	Captain, XO, Charleston Center for Admiralty Law.                                                                   	SI2
Rochefort, Léopold                                        	NTN        	Lieutenant, communications officer aboard space station Giselle.                                                    	SI2
Roelas y Valiente, Marcelito Lorenzo                      	_          	Foreign Minister, Solarian League.                                                                                  	SI2
Ronayne, Brangwen                                         	_          	Attorney General, Solarian League.                                                                                  	SI2
Rützel, Tobias ("Toby")                                   	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, CO, HMS Gaheris .                                                                             	SI2
Sackett, Lemuel                                           	_          	Commodore, senior officer, Montana system Navy.                                                                     	SI2
Sarkozy, Ruth                                             	RMN        	Surgeon Lieutenant, ship's doctor, HMS Vigilant , transferred to HMS Hexapuma following Battle of Monica.           	SI2
Sarnow, Mark                                              	RMN        	Admiral, senior officer naval forces assigned to the Silesian Confederacy.                                          	SI2
Saunders, Victoria                                        	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Hercules .                                                                                         	SI2
Schroeder, Federico                                       	SLN        	Captain, staff astrogator, Frontier Fleet Task Group 3021.                                                          	SI2
Seacrest, Ellen                                           	RMN        	Captain (JG), CO, HMS Lancelot.                                                                                     	SI2
Séguin, Gabrielle                                         	NTN        	Captain, CO, NTNS Camille.                                                                                          	SI2
Shaw, Terrence                                            	RMN        	Captain, Sir Lucian Cortez' chief of staff.                                                                         	SI2
Shoupe, Loretta                                           	RMN        	Captain, Augustus Khumalo's chief of staff.                                                                         	SI2
Sigbee, Evelyn                                            	SLN        	Rear Admiral, CO, Battlecruiser Squadron 112.                                                                       	SI2
Simpkins, Hosea                                           	GSN        	Lieutenant, astrogator, HMS Tristram.                                                                               	SI2
Sloan, Tamara                                             	RMN        	Chief Petty Officer, HMS Reprise .                                                                                  	SI2
Stackpole, John                                           	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, operations officer, Battlecruiser Squadron 81.                                                	SI2
Sung, Roderick                                            	MAN        	Commodore, CO, Task Group 2.1.                                                                                      	SI2
Sybil Moorehead                                           	_          	Joachim Alquezar's chief of staff.                                                                                  	SI2
Sywan, Mang                                               	_          	Minister of Commerce, Solarian League.                                                                              	SI2
Szegdi, Lindsey                                           	RMN        	Commander, CO, HMS Ivanhoe.                                                                                         	SI2
Taketomo, Kunimichi                                       	_          	Minister of Defense, Solarian League.                                                                               	SI2
Taliadoros, Kyrillos                                      	_          	Aldona Anisimovna's genetically enhanced bodyguard.                                                                 	SI2
Tallman, Alvin                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, XO, HMS Tristram.                                                                             	SI2
Teague, Irene                                             	SLN        	Captain, a Frontier Fleet analyst assigned to the Office of Operational Analysis.                                   	SI2
Teke, Rachel                                              	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Slipstream.                                                                                        	SI2
Terekhov, Aivars                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Hexapuma . Later commodore. (See Sir Aivars Terekhov, below)                                       	SI2
Terekhov, Sir Aivars                                      	RMN        	Commodore, CO, Cruiser Squadron 94. (See Aivars Terekhov, above)                                                    	SI2
Tersteeg, Maxwell                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, electronics warfare officer, Battlecruiser Squadron 106; later, EWO, 10th Fleet.              	SI2
Terwilliger, Vincenzo                                     	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Black Rose; Quentin O'Malley's flag captain.                                                       	SI2
Thimár, Karl-Heinz                                        	SLN        	Admiral, CO, Office of Naval Intelligence, Solarian League Navy.                                                    	SI2
Thimár, Karlotte                                          	SLN        	Rear Admiral, chief of staff, Frontier Fleet Task Group 3021.                                                       	SI2
Thurgood, Francis                                         	SLN        	Commodore, senior officer, Madras Sector Detachment, Frontier Fleet.                                                	SI2
Tigh, William                                             	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, chief engineer, HMS Ajax .                                                                    	SI2
Topolev, Frederick                                        	MAN        	Admiral, CO, Task Force One.                                                                                        	SI2
Török, Iona                                               	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, communications officer, HMS Quentin Saint-James.                                              	SI2
Treacher, Jackson                                         	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, logistics officer, Battlecruiser Squadron 106; later logistics officer, 10th Fleet.           	SI2
Trudeau, Jayne                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant, communications officer, HMS Reprise .                                                                   	SI2
Turner, Arlo                                              	RMN        	Commodore, XO, POW Camp C7, Haven.                                                                                  	SI2
Turner, Jedidiah                                          	RMN        	Captain, CO, HMS Jason .                                                                                            	SI2
Tyler, President Roberto                                  	_          	President Republic of Monica.                                                                                       	SI2
Van Dort, Bernardus                                       	_          	founder and ex-chairman of the Rembrandt Trade Union. Special Minister without Portfolio of the Alquezar Government.	SI2
Van Scheldt, Paul                                         	_          	Joachim Alquezar's appointments secretary.                                                                          	SI2
Varislav, Bradley                                         	RMN        	Ensign, junior tactical officer, HMS Reprise .                                                                      	SI2
Verrochio, Lorcan                                         	_          	Commissioner, Office of Frontier Security administrator for the Madras Sector.                                      	SI2
Vézien, Prime Minister Maxime                             	_          	Prime Minister, New Tuscany.                                                                                        	SI2
Walsh, Joshua                                             	MAN        	Captain, CO, MANS Mako ; Frederick Topolev's flag captain.                                                          	SI2
Wang, Astrid                                              	_          	Innokentiy Kolokoltsov's personal assistant and chief of staff.                                                     	SI2
Winton-Travis, The Honorable Frederick Roger              	_          	CEO Of Apex Industrial Group; Elizabeth III's cousin; member of the Conservative Association.                       	SI2
Wodoslawski, Agatá                                        	_          	Permanent Senior Undersecretary of the Treasury, Solarian League.                                                   	SI2
Wright, Jason                                             	RMN        	Commander, chief of staff, Destroyer Squadron 301.                                                                  	SI2
Wright, Tobias                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant Commander, astrogator, HMS Hexapuma .                                                                    	SI2
Xamar, Nicasio                                            	RMN        	Lieutenant, assistant tactical officer, HMS Tristram.                                                               	SI2
Yang, Sharon                                              	SLN        	Captain, CO, SLNS Resourceful.                                                                                      	SI2
Yao, President Kun Chol                                   	_          	President and head of state, Solarian League.                                                                       	SI2
Zagorski, Sylwester                                       	RMN        	Chief Warrant Officer, logistics officer, HMS Tristram.                                                             	SI2
Zavala, Jacob                                             	_          	Captain, SO, Destroyer Division 301.2.                                                                              	SI2
Zeiss, Ursula                                             	SLN        	Commander, tactical officer, SLNS Jean Bart.                                                                        	SI2
Zilwicki, Helen                                           	RMN        	Ensign, Sir Aivars Terekhov's flag lieutenant. (See Midshipwoman Helen Zilwicki.)                                   	SI2
Zilwicki, Helen                                           	RMN        	Midshipwoman, assigned HMS Hexapuma for midshipman's cruise. Later ensign. (See Ensign Helen Zilwicki.)             	SI2
LP-mn (talk) 02:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table of [[SI2]] characters not yet inserted into main article 

message: OK, so it seems that Anton Zilwicki and other characters have had their pages deleted, but nobody has bothered to merge that content into this list.  I did so, using the 'small' command with just Anton.  This is getting crazy.  All the wiki-police are making this even more of a clumbsy list.  I wish there was an easy, obvious way to do it.  The other merges will have to wait for another day.  Comments anyone? 
LP-mn (talk) 06:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have only one comment: thank you. Debresser (talk) 18:17, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anton Zilwicki and other merges 

message: Has anybody taken the ENTIRE character list from the At All Costs book and merged it into the Honorverse Character List?</br>
LP-mn (talk) 05:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: p.s.: My memory says that the SI1 character list has already been merged in by myself or someone else.  Can anyone confirm?</br>
LP-mn (talk) 05:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  At All Costs - character list question 

message: Does anyone know what happened to the "Appeared in" info for Helen and the "Description" for Helpern?
TOC                                   	TOC        	TOC                               	TOC
Character                             	Affiliation	Description                       	Appeared in
Helen(first name unknown)   	RMN        	HMS Majestic communication officer	
Helpern,(first name unknown)	           	                                  	HH6
75.72.193.10 (talk) 01:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to Helen and Helpern? 

message: # Aren't Halsted and Halstead, Raymond the same?
# We have two Hearns, Abigail at the moment.
# Sonja Hemphill and Hemphill, Sonja are the same.
# We have three Michelle Henke's now.
Debresser (talk) 10:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More issues 

message: no love for ruth? i've given her a blank entry, anyone want to fill in some details?
199.89.103.10 (talk) 18:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruth Winton? 

message: Several maintenance tags were removed by User:Fabartus inserting the "hidden" comment "This is about a best selling fictional universe which is not yet ancient and venerable enough to have attracted much scholarly work. It is at least as notable as Tolkien was in the sixties, and such references will come in time. In the meantime, don't be a DICK and hang useless tags which make us look bad just because you're ignorant". Tags are not useless, they alert editors to problems. "Such references will come in time": please see WP:NOTCRYSTAL. "At least as notable as Tolkien"... Please... I have all books from Weber (not just the Honorverse novels) as well as Tolkien's works, but those two really are not comparable. There have been lots of scholarly studies about Tolkien, I doubt there will be many about Weber, much as his books are well-crafted and hugely entertaining. Of course, I may be wrong, but that also goes for Fabartus. That is why we do not create articles before a subject becomes notable. Almost all Honorverse articles do not belong on WP and should be transwikified to the Honorverse wiki. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 18:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'll take out the fansite tag (which has been here since 2009, by the way), which indeed seems inappropriate. I do think that the in-universe tag is appropriate, though. Literary characters are pften the subject of scholarly articles or sometimes even books, or are at least discussed in critical works about the novels in which they appear. Using a real-world perspective in articles on fiction is, unfortunately, done for only a small minority those articles and definitely is a weak point for this whole section of WP. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 22:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: **Thanks! Hobit (talk) 15:19, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *I agree it's a problem but it is one without a solution as I don't believe 99%+ of these characters have scholarly articles on them.  Reviews maybe, but I don't think the problem is solvable by editing.  I'd thus argue the maintenance tag isn't doing any good and should be removed. Hobit (talk) 04:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *OK, I'll take down the in-universe tag, too, although I think your argument is more general than just this list and would basically apply to every instance of the use of that tag... --Guillaume2303 (talk) 09:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

text:  I removed a similar comment from some other page. I'll post on his talkpage and refer him here. Basically, he shouldn't be leaving message on articles, and he should filter his language a little. Debresser (talk) 22:26, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

text:  Well, he was just blocked for a month. Debresser (talk) 22:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maintenance tags