Talk:Snakes on a Plane/Archive 1

message: any editing help, advice or sheer fallacy is greatly appreciated  -author
Why would this be deleted? It's one of two possible titles for the movie in question.
topatoco.com/snakes.htm
I'm still not convinced this is a real movie, any of the linked articles could have been faked, and Snakes on a Blog points out that SNL did a sketch called Attack of the Cobras, which had the same premise. Maybe Keenan Thompson wrote the sketch and now it's just a webjoke? Can we trust anything that's already on ytmnd.com?
216.43.27.22 00:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a very real movie (and the IMDb listing certainly hasn't been faked). It's on ytmnd.com and other places because, like the article says, "Snakes on a Plane" has become an internet meme. Really, it's Snakes, on a motherfuckin' Plane. - DoubleCross 14:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early comments 

message: Since there have been american remakes of Japanese movies (The Ring,the Grudge,the upcoming Battle Royale),is it too much to expect a japanese film company to do a remake of Snakes on a Plane?
Just a thought. - R.G. 14:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can only hope. IMFromKathlene 01:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese Remake?

message: I don't think this movie got online publicity from its "fanstic title/premise" so much as its "COMPLETELY RIDICOLOUS title/premise"
:Fantastic can also mean "so extreme as to challenge belief." - Tim - Jan 27, 2006 7:45 UTC
::I don't think it's "ridicolus" at all, I think it is brillant literally a shining beacon not just a title but a .....dare I say a movement.
:::It should probably read "Fantastical" instead of "fantastic." A common error. 154.20.135.89 04:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually fantastic is correct too. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 04:43, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Um...

message: I have added the site www.snakesonablog.com/ because it is the largest fansite devoted to the movie on the internet. The site itself is NOT a blog, it only has the word 'Blog' in its title. The site is full of various fan contributed artwork, music, and trailers. It also posts interviews with people involved from the film's production AND it is the ONLY site on the Internet that has a review of the actual script of the film. That alone seperates it from the rest of the links on the article page. Even if the original idea of the site was a blog, it has radically morphed into something much much larger. 
TruthCrusader 10:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not an admin, just another user. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 02:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snakes on a blog 

message: I recently discovered that there is a Wikipedia Policy for not linking to blogs.  
However, my blogging software enables the use of "Pages" which are much more static than a blog post.  The pages each come with a separate URL.  That being said, can I not link to my "Page," which is much more like a "Fansite" (similar to Snakes on a Blog), and not to my blog itself?  Honestly, I was merely trying to direct people to the special place I had set aside for this wonderful film, not trying to break any wiki rules.
Please advise.
~Greg Kendall-Ball
::It's a grey area. Generally, the consensus is that personal pages and blogs are a no go. It all depends on how reliable and dependable the source is. Snakes on a Blog, whatever software they may use is quite definately a blog and as such does not qualify. The one major exception to this, (I believe, and I'm not 100% sure on this) is if the blog itself is hosting an interview or something, AND it's a majorly notable blog (i.e. the interview can be verified, so something like Daily Kos, or the like). If you'd like my opinion on whether a specific page is acceptable, put it up here on the talk page and the editors for this page will give our thoughts.
Cheers. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 18:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pages on a Blog? 

message: is Snakes on a Plane really a non sequitur? basically from seeing the words "Snakes on a Plane" you know exactly what the movie is about. it makes perfect sense. it is rediculous of course but it doesn't really fit the definition of non sequitur. Jedpressgrove 01:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  non sequitur? 

message: I think we should just go ahead and give this whole movie the official wikipedia barnstar for "greatest movie of all time," because it clearly is going to be.  Let's not kid ourselves: Snakes on a Plane will affect future generations of Americans and will help make this country great for all time.
:Better than Kindergarten Cop? I think not! --ozzmosis 00:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This movie is going to end world hunger and cure all diseases. Jeff Silvers 04:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: guys, chuck norris isn't even going to be in it. so no, i'm sorry, that's not gonna happen. -Nathew 03:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I completely concur, this movie is going to redefine a generation. it will be the greatest movie of the decade and possibly ever made.
Let's face it, this movie has spawned a new trend in popular culture even before its release. Just think of all the quotes, movie references and puns that are gonna be brought up by this movie after 98% of the world's population watches it. This WILL be bigger than the  "I'm Too Sexy For My [blank]" fad. I see big potential in this: Snakes on a Cracker, Snakes on an Animated TV series, I Can't Believe It's Not Snakes! --Wikiwow 18:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The greatest movie ever? 

message: As evidenced by the trailer, Julianna Margulies is still in the movie, and has not been cut as the article states. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.6.106 (talk • contribs) 
* She's also listed at IMDB. I've excised the offending sentence. -- MisterHand 21:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Julianna Margulies

message: Is this a real movie or is it a parody or something? Johhny-turbo 04:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an elaborate April Fool's Joke. Eleemosynary 08:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It would damage the goodwill people have towards the film to pander to the growing fanbase. By the time the film is released, that supposed “motherloving snakes” line is going to be very old. And there - you see - it can be done as a PG-13, which is the next point - almost all major studio films are PG-13 now. You can get away with almost anything apart from foul language in PG-13, and I don't think snake bites need a R rating. As for the reshoots, that's pretty standard for any film. And reshoots are not a sign of trouble - if a film sucks they simply bury it, not spend more money on it. Incidently, the script for SOAP has been in development for years - it was a hot concept in Hollywood but was postponed after 9/11 as I suspect it was not the type of film people wanted to see then.Scott197827 17:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but the studios have a long way to go before “almost all” of their films are PG-13. Control 19:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just to clairify 

message: Ok, as we get more and more good links, we're having to remove the less valid ones to avoid linkcruft. Therefore, please refrain from adding parody sites and fansites to the external links. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 20:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  link spam 

message: Wikipedia recommends avoiding long lists of external links to fan sites, blogs, and parodies. The "Snakes on a Plane" internet phenomenon, however, largely relies on these sites, and even the official site features a "Fan Site of the Week." I would therefore propose that in a nice, orderly manner we construct a comprehensive list of links to all pertinent fan sites, blogs, and parodies here in the Talk section. Akieft1
*www.snakesonablog.com/ Snakes on a Blog
*www.planesonasnakemovie.com/ Snakes on a Plane 2: Planes on a Snake
*snakesonablog.blogspot.com/ Snakes on a Blog at Blogspot.com
*community.livejournal.com/snakesonablog/ Snakes on a Plane Community at LiveJournal.com
*www.snakesonablog.com/swp/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/snakes.wmv Parody trailer
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVO78iGmNs Parody teaser 
*www.snakesonanelevator.com Snakes on an Elevator parody film
*www.myspace.com/snakesonaplanemp3 Prank calls to airlines
*topatoco.com/snakes.htm Snakes Flying a Plane merchandise
*themaneater.com/comicsjpg/2006-02-07/dud.jpg Snakes on a Plane comic in college newspaper
*soapshowdown.ytmnd.com/ Snakes on a Plane Showdown at YTMND.com
That's fine if you want to keep them in the talk page. But they won't belong in the article itself. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 22:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Fan Sites, Blogs, and Parodies 

message: SNAKES!  On a WIKIPEDIA! — WCityMike (T | C) 20:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgot to wikify it. ;-) — WCityMike (T | C) 20:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As an interesting side note: I wasted 15 bucks at stupid Six Flags over Georgia this past weekend with my roomate winning a giant snake that I can try and hang from a model plane in my apartment.. This freaking plush snake is about 6 and a half feet long. ⇒ SWATJester  Ready  Aim  Fire! 04:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Just had to say it ...

message: Wikipedia movie party! Ya! S.O.A.P.! -58.105.128.146 23:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's all go see this movie together 

message: Wouldn't snakes curl up and hibernate if they were put on an airplane? I mean, airplanes are pretty cold, and snakes are cold blooded.
Just wondering.--Ollie Garkey 23:25(?), 19 April 2006 (UTC) 
(I keep forgetting this signature.)--Ollie Garkey 23:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are animals on the plane. There's a cat in the trailer, and one was mentioned in a script review I read recently. --Maxamegalon2000 02:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not to piss on the fire but... 

message: I changed "There is no doubt..." to "It is widely hoped that..." ("the movie will be horrible in every way.") The article documents a serious subject, involving both people and other non-oviparous animals in a state of being threatened by snakes on a m****rf*****g plane and the NPOV policy should be strictly adhered to. I believe that anyone who seriously contemplates the exigencies of such a subject will agree. Alan Canon 03:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: I created a Snakes on a Plane userbox, but for some reason it kept getting deleted.  You can copy and paste this format into the page from here if you want it for your user page.  If someone knows how to make it have its own page without being deleted, please do so.  Or if you can make any new ones, that would be awesome as well.  Please let me know if you create any new Snakes on a Plane userboxes, or any ones about Samuel L. Jackson. Thanks.  --Nehrams2020 21:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does that matter? NPOV is an article content creation guideline, not a userbox guideline. ⇒ SWATJester Ready  Aim  Fire! 21:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gee, I dont know.  Maybe because Jimbo himself has expressed concern over userbox neutrality in the past, and there is a wave of conflict over this very issue right now.  Template space is not userspace, and while I disagree with much of the purging that is going on, I do think that actually pushing templates on mainspace articles and their talk pages is not only not the prudent thing to do, but also wreckless.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 04:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: S.O.A.P. Userbox

message: In a nod to the film's strong support online, the official webpage linked to one "Fan Site of the Week" for eight weeks.  It has since stopped posting new links.  The following sites were featured (in order from oldest to newest): 
*tagworld.com/snakesonaplane Tagworld song contest -- winning song will be played over the film's ending credits
*www.snakesonablog.com/ Snakes on a Blog
*www.myspace.com/snakesonaplanemp3 Snakes on an MP3 
*youtube.com/results?search=snakes+on+a+plane&search_type=search_videos&search Snakes on YouTube
*mcsweeneys.net/2006/4/10keinathnuske.html McSweeney's "Surprise Endings"
*www.venomousreptiles.org/ VenomousReptiles.org
*thedoomedplanet.com/tdp/index.cfm Snakes at The Doomed Planet 
*beautifulcandy.blogspot.com/2006/05/snakes-on-mania.html Charm School: Snakes on a Mania
MisterHand's Comments: This section was moved here for the following two reasons:
# Wikipedia is not a web directory
# Impossible to verify, as the official site only lists one fan site at a time and no archive is kept.
Thanks. -- MisterHand 14:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Sites of the Week 

message: Do not link dates. It's really really stupid. Links should have some bearing on the article, or every word would be linked, which is pointless. Linking "May 18th" has nothing to do with Snakes, Planes, or Snakes on Planes. Don't do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.105.228.241 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 26 May 2006
:No, do link dates, since linking makes the date show in the reader's prefered style as set in their preferences.  See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates containing a month and a day. -- AJR | Talk 18:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking Dates 

message: The article states that the 'Official' trailer would be shown with the new X-Men movie.  I saw the movie on Friday, and there was no trailer.  I thought it might have been a US-Canada thing... but I still have yet to see someone place the trailer on the internet.  Therefore, I must assume that the trailer was not shown anywhere.  Unless anyone can truthfully say that they did see the trailer, then I suggest we remove that point.  It doesn't even reference where it came from. T ConX 04:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After doing a lot of digging around last night trying to find a non-parodic trailer to show my friend, who still doesn't believe it’s a real movie (“I’ll believe it when I see it [in theatres or on TV]”), and waiting forever for TagWorld’s to load (it never did, even after clicking Click here if trailer doesn't load) I finally dug up this www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2710880 iFilm page, which is the same trailer I saw a few months ago; I can’t remember on what site (possibly YouTube or Salon). The same trailer is www.primotechnology.com/hosted/alex/snakes.htm here. According to the infamous “Snakes on a Blog,” “this trailer is not the official teaser trailer for the film, it was put online merely for the songwriting contest at Tagworld. The CG is not representative of how the snakes will look in the final cut. The OFFICIAL official teaser trailer will apparently be coming out in about a month [from March 17]” so it’s probably not the same as the one they’re showing before “X-Men.”
—Wiki Wikardo 00:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I would have thought the trailer from X-Men would be online by now.  Have you shown your friend the clips from Paula Zahn and Keith Olberman?  I know I saw them online somewhere. --Maxamegalon2000 00:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From a post at Snakes on a Blog: "I work at a movie theater and we have the trailer on one of our X-Men 3 prints. ... I should note that this will not appear on EVERY X-Men 3 print (from what i can tell). For example, our theater got 4 prints of X-Men 3 and the SoaP trailer only appears on one of them."  So, maybe you just picked the wrong screen. --Maxamegalon2000 02:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preview shown before X-Men Movie 

message: The current revision contains an inconsistency with regard to Samuel L. Jackson's new line.
Early publicity:
:Among the reported additions is a line that originated as an Internet parody of Samuel L. Jackson's traditional movie persona: "That's IT! I've had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!".
Trivia:
:Among these additions is the Jackson character's line, "I want these motherfucking snakes off this motherfucking plane," a line that originated in an anticipatory internet parody of the movie.
Which line is correct?
In the recent trailer clips, I've been hearing the first one, meaning the line from the first one seems to be the correct one, since if you listen to recent trailers, the line from the first choice seems to be heard more, like the new and permanent choice. So I would say that the first choice seems to be more accurate, since if you look around hard or well enough for recent clips from the movie trailer or the trailer itself, the first choice can be heard when that happens. 24.188.203.181 05:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the second one is correct. However, no one will know until we see the movie. dposse 22:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The music video for "Snakes on a Plane (Bring It)" by Cobra Starship opens by sampling Samuel L. Jackson saying, "That's it!  I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!"  It stands to reason that this is the correct quote. --Maxamegalon2000 23:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? Because some fan made song said it? You are going to need something better than that. dposse 00:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it is the official music video for the official song that's in the movie and on the official soundtrack, and Samuel L. Jackson appears in the video.  I don't understand how the video could include anything but the correct quote.  --Maxamegalon2000 00:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for the fact that it's not the movie? dposse 16:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that, short of actually seeing the movie, the quote's use in the music video is the most conclusive evidence possible that this is the genuine phrasing.  Seeing as how you believe can't really know for the purposes of this article which is correct until the movie's release, why don't we simply say that "Jackson's character curses both the snakes and the plane as "motherfucking", a word Jackson is known to use liberally in his movies."  But I think it should be mentioned in the article which is used in the music video. --Maxamegalon2000 17:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems perfectly reasonable until August 18th. dposse 17:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

message: When I first heard about SoaP,I recalled a skit on Saturday Night Live about a cobra loose on a plane.Sure enough,this is mentioned in the main article. - R.G. 05:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SNL skit 

message: "As a non-native species, snakes are illegal to import or to possess in Hawaii, with fines starting at $5,000 and jail time."  This should be fixed.  Snakes are not "a species," in Hawaii or anywhere else. 148.87.1.172 18:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So fix it. Be bold! —Ragdoll 21:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  species 

message: I think it was on Robot Chicken where they mention "Frogs on a plane"... any other places other than that and SNL?
:I can confirm with my own eyes/ears that The Daily Show and Colbert Report (which are related) have made the occasional SoaP-related joke, including the prior's Frogs on a Plane (complete with image).  The latter mustly threw in those Sam Jackson lines. --Bobak 17:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  other mentions 

message: there was a dateline special on online preditors where the police used the IM name "snakesonagirl" that might be a good trivia thingy
:no, not really. dposse 22:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snakes on a girl 

message: I saw the first tv trailers today! "Pirates rule the seas, but snakes rule the skies". Whoo! BethEnd 01:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TV Commercial