Talk:List of English inventions and discoveries

message: i added Radar as it was Pioneered at Bawdsey Manor with the help of among others Henry Tizard,overdue i think.Bullseye30 (talk) 16:32, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Radar

message: invented by a scot not an enlishman  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.114.84 (talk) 22:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: Tarmac was patented by Edgar Purnell Hooley, but originally developed by John Loudon McAdam, who was s Scotsman. The invention is therefore of Scottish.Rubisco (talk) 14:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: chemistry:
- discovey of buckminsterfullerene - sir harry kroto (discovered it with two americans)
engineering:
- transistor - william shockley (is american and developed it in us along with two americans)
Señor osvaldo (talk) 00:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  two problems 

message: Its a shame that this page, English inventions, is not a reliable and credible source of information since it is missing citations to support most of these claims. 
For instance, the steam rail locomotive. Richard Trevithick wasn't the first to invent or even build a steam rail locomotive in 1804. That was done by John Fitch in 1794. The first farm tractor was not invented by an Englishman. The first tractor built was by John Froehlich, an American in 1892. 
I question who has written this page and whether or not he or she can accurately define the difference between an invention and a development. The listing of rail engines and rail lines for example, they are developments and not inventions.
My suggestion is that someone should spend several hours doing some research and provide accurate and factual citations instead of listing disputable inventions with no evidence. Then perhaps this page will be taken more seriously. --Yoganate79 (talk) 03:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You complain that the authors of this article are unable to tell the difference between an invention and a development, yet go on to claim that John Froelich invented the tractor. When in fact it had been around for decades and he just improved it. 188.221.145.66 (talk) 19:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreliable

message: Surely it would make more sense to have a list of British inventions and if apropriate note which part of Britian they came from?(82.8.220.29 (talk) 20:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: England and Scotland has both invented a lot of things. The list article would be too big. Also there's no reason to move all the British inventions into one article and then say where they were invented rather than just having four separate articles. 188.221.145.66 (talk) 19:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why English and not British? 

message: Wasn't that the world's first stored-program computer? Index registers are NOT its big claim to fame; it's the fact that its program code was stored in memory rather than being a physical device.
===Cloning===
Dolly the sheep was cloned by 2 Englishmen what about putting that in the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.11.124 (talk) 21:05, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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message: Dolly the sheep was cloned by 2 Englishmen what about putting that in the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.11.124 (talk) 21:05, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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message: That not an invention, that's making a Z80 computer, nothing else.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.191.68.227 (talk) 13:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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message: I removed 'Seed Drill' because it was an "improvement" and not an invention or discovery, my edit was reverted. Where are we drawing the line on what counts as an invention or discovery? Muleattack (talk) 02:45, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a common misconception. An invention does not necessarily have to be the first ever example of something - it can also be a significant improvement of an existing idea. The Watt steam engine for example was not the first ever steam engine, but it was a patentable and historically significant invention. The same is true of Jethro Tull's seed drill: "The major invention, Jethro Tull's seed-drill of the early eighteenth century. was the culmination of decades of attack on the problem by many inventors; it was invented in 1701. introduced (via a book) in 1731, and an improved geared version appeared fifty years later, in 1782. Its importance lay in the fact that it was the first important step towards the elimination of manual labour in farm operations in Britain' (Beaumont and Higgs 1958: 5-9; Rolt 1980: 671; Inkster 1991: 305)."  Rettens2 (talk) 17:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not a 'misconception', it's simply a case of drawing boundaries as to what is considered an invention or development for this particular article. That said, I agree that the seed drill should stay. Muleattack (talk) 20:04, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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