Talk:Quebec City

message: I think that this page should be Québec City or Québec (city).  To someone from the province, Quebec completely looks wrong.  In addition to the above discussion, colloquially people are from Québec, not Ville de Québec or Québec City.  "Québec" is by all means an adequate name for the city.  The French wiki has it listed as (Québec (ville)).  In addition for the accent to be included, at the English website, Québec  is always spelled Québec and never Quebec. Let's spell the bloody thing properly. :)  Captain Courageous (talk) 21:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This has come up several times, there are guidelines which have been written for this exact scenario. Common english spelling is used on english wikipedia. The guidelines can be found at WP:CANSTYLE/WP:PLACE. Po' buster (talk) 22:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not useful to install foreign accent marks in the English Wikipedia. Searches don't always uncover these references. Which is one of the reasons why the Wikipedia standards were written that way.Student7 (talk) 19:56, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: The photos in the infobox go beyond not doing this city justice, they verge on slander.  Ville de Québec is the jewel of North America, one of the very, very few places where the controversial European notion that a city should not look like complete shit managed to take hold.  They make it look like just another small and unremarkable North American city.  I don't know if this was done by an editor who just got dumped by a girl from Quebec, or one with Aspergers with an unfortunate bent toward futurism, who thinks modern architecture is anything but misanthropic violence in building form.  Either way, GET RID OF IT!  71.234.198.222 (talk) 03:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Find a better picture, and upload it.  Oh and don't slag people with Asperger's. Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Or make your own montage; there are quite a few good composite pics (see the commons link) on Quebec City. Chensiyuan (talk) 03:11, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures = TERRIBLE!   

message: Should we translate arrondissements into "boroughs"?  Is a translation necessary?  We don't do that for the ones in Paris. 99.130.28.232 (talk) 23:25, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A translation might be useful. Arrondissement means nothing in English. Preserving it serves no useful purpose IMO. At first I thought borough a little unusual since it is only used in a few Middle Atlantic US states, but maybe it is better understood abroad? I would have preferred "township" or "town" or even "municipality." Wikipedia seems to prefer "district." Whatever that means!  :)  Student7 (talk) 18:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Boroughs" 

message: Someone should add a section for notable people Quebec City.  I am sure this beautiful and historic city has more than a few.24.235.119.2 (talk) 21:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: pls see List of people from Quebec City.Moxy (talk) 21:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Famous People" 

message: I am interested in organizing a concerted effort to get this article up to GA Standards.  I will do my best to popularize this effort at Wikimedia Canada. We're hosting a Wikimedia Canada Sign up page, all are welcome to sign up. Alan.ca (talk) 09:47, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: wow lots of work here for GA status...will help when improvement drive is up and ruining.Moxy (talk) 10:03, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Drive 

message: Alan.ca has removed the only picture of an aerial view of the city; removed the only (two) pictures representing street scenes of the city; and replaced the typical multi-panel infobox image with one depicting largely just the Chateau. The reasons offered in the edit summaries are not convincing. Chensiyuan (talk) 03:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am open to your selection, we need to thin out some of the photos to move this article closer to passing a GA review.  There should be a relationship between the article text and photographs included.  If people are looking for a photo tour of the city, they typically click the commons link near the bottom of the article. Alan.ca (talk) 04:01, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The images left in the article are now clichéd. They concentrate on the monumental buildings. There are two and a half shots of the Château Frontenac. One street scene, if representative, is required. Abductive (reasoning) 06:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture selection 

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message: Québec (with the acute accent) is the city's official name in both French and English.
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilbertus (talk • contribs) 19:35, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine (and well understood), but irrelevant.  We do not defer to official names; articles on en-Wikipedia are titled based on the name used most commonly in the English language.  See WP:CANSTYLE#French names for more information.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

text: This has already been discussed above. In the info box under official name, Ville de Québec is written, while the title is in line with common usage. Also, both spellings are mentioned in the lead. Trackratte (talk) 04:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Québec or Quebec 

message: An IP editor:  ‎216.221.37.56 has been removing one of the common pronunciations.  I have twice reverted and will not vioate 3RR, but I thought I would let others know and perhaps weigh in on this.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:59, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a common pronunciation, it's a butchered way of pronouncing it by people who don't know how to pronounce it, and that is perpetuated by pseudo-references on the internet. I live in Montreal, Quebec, and all the anglophones pronounce it [kebɛk], only once in a while you get an outsider who will not pronounce it that way and it's because they don't know how to pronounce it properly, it's not a reason to include a bad pronunciation in an encyclopedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.221.37.56 (talk) 13:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of our readership are so called 'outsiders'.  That pronunciation has been there going back at least to Aug 20, (the 50th oldest edit on the history page).  Indeed, going back a long way, to Jan of 2011, you will find it there.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 14:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Someone wrote that Placentia is older than Quebec City, and that it was the capital of French North America. Placentia was established as a permanent settlement in 1626 and was the capital of French Newfoundland with a local governor from 1655 to 1713. The Governor-general of New France was always in Quebec City. So "Placentia (Plaisance, the capital of French North America from 1655-1713)" is removed.--131.137.247.6 (talk) 13:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Placentia 

message: An IP has added, then twice reverted  a long treatise, ok that might be a bit strong, but what seems to me like way way too much detail on the name and the use of accents.  I have asked the IP to discuss it but to no avail.  I have warned the IP about edit warring, or am about to, and I am opening this discussino here.  I amaware BTW, that we have discussed this, and WP:CANSTYLE is, I think, pretty clear on this.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to say, I think that the IP edits were truly good-faith edits, and did add to the article. I think that they were mostly contentious because they used pretty value-laden words ("typically", "legitimate", etc.) I have fought a bit with the text to make it clearer about its sources, but would welcome further improvements. I think that the fact that this discussion is in a footnote is a perfect place for the kind of discussion included. AshleyMorton (talk) 13:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the footnote reads quite well now and is fair and balanced.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah seems reasonable.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

text: TY, particularly AM. I simply sought to add well-referenced detail about the variations of the name - which is rather warranted given the several variations in the lead - instead of a particular editor accusing me falsely of making a point about it. 174.89.39.112 (talk) 03:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It struck me that way, if it was not your intent then I apologize.  This all could have been avoided with a simple talk page discussion.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name, again 

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message: There are two different pronunciations listed, one French, and one English. But the article on the province, Quebec, lists three pronunciations, and both of the English pronunciations there are different to the English one here. Are they really pronounced differently? In any case, we should have citations in both articles. StAnselm (talk) 15:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There's at least two anyway: French and English. The two English forms on the province page are actually not correct: /kwᵻˈbɛk/ or /kəˈbɛk/ should be /kwᵻˈbɛk/ or /kᵻˈbɛk/, and anyway /kwᵻˈbɛk/ is largely considered incorrect, it's a rube's mispronunciation. Ogress 03:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: The article speaks of 6 arrondissements/boroughs further divided into 35 quartiers/districts.  However, when you go to the city's website go to the "about" then "portrait" then "arrondissements" pages and click on the arrondissement you want, on the right side of the page it leads you to maps of "electoral districts."  I haven't looked closely enough, but are these divisions of quartiers from which the quartier councils are elected, or something else entirely? It'd be nice in the article's "boroughs and districts" sub-section to more clearly describe how the councisl at each level (quartier, arrondissement, and ville) are elected, perhaps to even have this sub-section rewritten for clarity and pared down placed under the "government" section since these are administrative divisions, apparently. This would make it consistent with other city pages on wiki. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, generally a quartier in Quebec City would be more accurately translated as "neighbourhood" than as "district", especially because of the fact that "district" can be used to refer to several different and non-identical things (the neighbourhoods, the council wards, the arrondissements themselves). You're also correct that council ward boundaries do not have to precisely correspond to a single neighbourhood — what they have to do is ensure that there's relative (but not precise) equality of population from one ward to another. While a densely populated neighbourhood in the city centre might constitute its own ward, in less densely populated areas a ward might encompass several neighbourhoods rather than just one. So we could definitely stand to find a way to express the difference more clearly than we do, but you're correct that the number of electoral wards isn't a useful measure for the number of neighbourhoods per se. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, all.  Yes, thank you for finding a better understanding of "district."  I'd also translate it to "neighborhood."  The reason I'd like them mentioned is that they seem to be actual administrative divisions of quarters/districts, so they need to be mentioned more clearly.  Something else that may take too much work or that some may object to, but I think English-speakers are generally aware enough of the concept of "arrondissements" from Paris that we don't necessarily need to call them "boroughs."  And, at the very least "districts" isn't needed for "quarters."  Though, this isn't as great as concern for me as clarifying that there is, indeed, a third level of administration (i.e. neighborhood).  Again, thanks all for your help. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:05, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: I'm not sure if I understand this cleanup tag here. Which of this article's editors have an apparent conflict of interest? Jarble (talk) 21:22, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reminder. I intended to posts the reason here and forgot. :User:Dave.paige has admitted to having what Wikipedia considers a conflict of interest here, as he stated he made edits at the requests of the leaders of three organizations, including Quebec City. - BilCat (talk) 21:32, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This user only made small and minor edits in this article; nothing that appears problematic in terms of potential conflict of interest (unlike in the articles Videotron Centre and Quebec City Summer Festival where their edits are substantial and the COI tag seems warranted).--Nonztp (talk) 23:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the tag. There is no point in having this dangling over the page when there is nothing apparent to fix. — Define Real (talk) 15:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
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message: So the name "Québec" comes from Algonquin, but...the history of the place starts with French colonizers' arrival? Hmph. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:91D2:D1AF:D6EA:6AA7 (talk) 09:33, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I notice we describe the Citadelle of Quebec as a royal residence & then later the viceregal's (i.e governor general's) secondary official residence. Shouldn't we also include the Canadian monarch? as she's mentioned in the Citadelle of Quebec page, as an official resident. Help clarify the inconsistency 'within' this page. GoodDay (talk) 13:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Citadelle's official residents

message: I'm not sure whether Transport in Quebec City should be a free-standing article or not, but the present state affairs--nothing about it on the main article, and the child article stubbed of most of its content, was about the most unhelpful outcome imaginable. Tagging @Tbf69 and @Onel5969 since they had an argument about this last month. Mackensen (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Mackensen -- I don't care one way or the other, really, just felt that there should be some discussion before splitting.  Once it was split, I simply removed all the uncited material as per WP:VERIFY.  Thanks for the ping. Onel5969 TT me 22:27, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infrastructure