Talk:Taiwan/Archive 1

message: The seal should have less blue space: http://www.roc-taiwan-fr.com/policy/histoire/societe/images/14.jpg --Jiang 08:12, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1953 revised law regarding the seal & flag (中華民國國徽國旗法) does not mention the space at all. And such is with the Girl scouts' symbol. However, The ROC navy medals (the 2nd photo) shows a little space.  --Menchi 08:47, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Seal 

message: I removed the following. They seem too detailed for the intro paragraph:
"Since two different governments cannot claim sovereignty on the same lands, this became a thorny issue for foreign governments, who have to choose which Chinese government they recognize."
This would better belong in "foreign relations". I think it's already there. It's incorrect to say "two different governments cannot claim sovereignty on the same lands". You can't stop them! But even two countries with territorial disputes can both be recognized by most of the world (Korea?). It was the two Chinas preventing this from happening, not the world community not being able to recognize both.
:That's flawed reasoning.  You can't stop them but a country could not rationally recognize two governments over the same territory.  You could recognize them for different territories.  Today, only PRC prevents countries from recognizing both China and Taiwan.--160.39.195.88 17:30, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed content 

message: I am a little confused by the data of the Population in the table. "Population 1,300,000,000 Ranked 1st". How come? --Yacht 10:55, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
:Fixed. Some ignorant dumb person confused this China with the other one. --Jiang 20:50, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  confused 

message: ::"In a series of Constitutional amendments in 2004, a consensus position was reached in which it was stated that the free territory of the Republic of China consisted of Taiwan, and nearby islands."
:Is there a source for this? Something as controversial as this should be newsworthy. 
::This was part of the package of amendments passed in August.  Along with changing the formula for the legislative yuan, they also changed Articles 1-4.  I'm trying but failing to get the exact text of the amendments.  The package passed with only one or two no votes, and the PRC didn't object so the wording wasn't too bad.
Roadrunner 16:42, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it was already accepted that the "free area of the Republic of China" consisted of Taiwan and other islands. This was how they defined who had the right to vote - residents of the "free area of the Republic of China". The rhetoric here still implies Taiwan is "free" while the mainland is not. This should be nothing special and no different from past amendements passed in the 1990s unless they specifically defined the "free area" as the Taiwan area. If not, then it's not really worth mentioning. --Jiang 21:42, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constitutional amendments in 2004 

message: The intro blurn to this article is interesting and apparently accurate, but seems too long compared to other country articles. I plan to consolidate it and move the bluk elsewhere. --Twinxor 08:40, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Turns out I'm dumb and moved the summary sidebar to the top of the page, rather than the standard place by the TOC. I'd really like to see the flag "above the fold", though, so I still plan to overhaul the introduction. --Twinxor 08:44, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Did the big reorganization, but I was pretty tired, so go ahead and correct all my mistakes! --Twinxor 11:39, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro Section Cleanup 

message: Ahah!! I was talking to Jiang about the KMT flag and I noticed the coat of arm picture in the article highly resembled KMT's party symbol. Please see the difference in the link if anyone is interested. . I know that this might not be a general interest though. :)Mababa 07:29, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Coat of Arm

message: As Taiwan does not have diplomatic relations with most countries, what is the position for its citizens to visit the USA, UK etc Do they require visas, are Taiwanese passports accepted?
:I don't have a Taiwan passport but from what I've seen, holders of them use them in the US, Canada, and Mexico. I believe they're accepted in most countries in the world w/o diplomatic relations with the ROC. Travel to mainland China for ROC citizens requires the "Taiwan Compatriot Pass" issued by the PRC; the Hong Kong SAR government issues another travel pass (so the PRC does not accept the ROC passport). --Jiang 06:41, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Foreign Travel