Talk:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad

message: Does anyone know exactly where the Lackawanna's headquarters were at? I've got a source (Lackwanna Station, Scranton) that says it was in Scranton, but a Lackwanna passenger timetable I've seen seemed to suggest that the railroad was headquartered in New York City.--Foxhound 19:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The division headquarters were in Scranton.  But the president's office was in Hoboken.  The business office was in NYC.WallyFromColumbia (talk) 23:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. Corporate headquarters were located in Manhattan.Oanabay04 (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Headquarters

message: I feel this article, like most other articles about fallen flags, is of mid importance. I have ranked it as such. 3D jonny 00:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance 

message: This is a note to editors to say that I have revised this article today, with some significant deletions in the post-1960 merger section. The reason for this is because — for all intents and purposes — anything relating to the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad ends in 1960. Details pertainin to Phoebe Snow, Lackawanna Cut-Off, etc, belong in those corresponding articles and have been marked as such. Anything concerning the years after the EL merger belong in that corresponding article. This includes status of current lines, structure, etc.Oanabay04 (talk) 20:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revisions 

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replies: text: Mackensen, Would you please specify what exactly the concern is with relation to copyright? I fully agree that any duplication of text needs to be removed but simply wiping out the contributions of other editors is not appropriate. The images on the page prior to your page-wide edit were all open source, relevant to the historical periods on the page and did not need to be removed.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 14:09, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've reverted you.  inserted massive amounts of material lifted directly from Drury, as mentioned above. Reverting to the last known clean version was the only reasonable way to resolve the issue. You're of course free to restore images and non-copyvio text. If you'd like to assist with the effort to review and cleanup Oanabay04's edits, please see Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Oanabay04. Mackensen (talk) 16:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

text:  To be clear, it's this series of edits in November 2012 (see his note above, after he made them): . This is word-for-word from Drury. Mackensen (talk) 16:51, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, a major pain to clean this but I see now why it was necessary. ThanksMonopoly31121993 (talk) 10:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

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message: Thus, all hyphens between “E” and “L” in “EL” as an abbreviation should be restored, not reinstated. 174.212.161.0 (talk) 15:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erie Lackawanna Railroad does NOT have a hyphen between “Erie” and “Lackawanna”. 

message: First, please forgive my vast ignorance and incompetence.
When I search the edit history for the page, I find no creation date or information for the current OSM map.
The map itself has no log entries at all ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Data%3ADelaware%2C+Lackawanna+and+Western+Railroad.map&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=thanks&wpfilters%5B%5D=patrol&wpfilters%5B%5D=tag&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers ). 
Furthermore, the External Maps only link to a single coordinate point, not the full routes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware,_Lackawanna_and_Western_Railroad#/map/0 ).
I presume the map is implemented using the Kartographer extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Kartographer ).
In any case, the source shows the route lines on a map as a massive set of coordinates. 
Given that there is a method for using map objects ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Kartographer/OSM ); I'd prefer to do so as this appears to allow much more information to be preserved and shared in the page. It might also expose the map object history, which has it's own merits.
Again, please forgive my vast ignorance and incompetence. 
Does anyone have any insight here? Is there a better place to post this.
Thanks in advance for your time and patience.
-scopulorum
Scopulorum (talk) 16:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map Shows No History or Data Source