Talk:Pull-up resistor

message: After reading this article, I'm still confused. Does the term "Pull up"/"Pull down" resistor describe a specific *type* of resistor? In that case, I'm curious about how it works, what's different about how it's built from a standard resistor, and how a given resistor might be labeled should I wish to go out and buy one. Or is it a *way of using a resistor in a circuit* to achieve a "pull up/pull down" effect? (in which case, I should be able to analyse the circuit to determine how it works, once I get better a circuit analysis. :-) )
Anyway, that's what has me confused. Clarifications would be helpful. :-)
--  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.191.119.10 (talk) 19:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The image shows a simple circuit using both pullup and pulldown resistors. Lunkwill 19:39, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK -- then what is a pull-down resister? What I mean is -- that the clarity of this article depends on another, currently nonexistent, article. (Wiki writer 17:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They should both be in this article, though I don't know what best to call it. — Omegatron 01:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text:  I've been thinking about it, and I don't have any great suggestions for a title that would adequately identity both of these circuit functions. Instead -- it might must be easier to write a new article for "pull-down resister." (Wiki writer 20:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Since a "Pull up Resistor" is very similar to a "Pull down resistor", and they are used for very similar reasons, I suggest that the two articles be merged, since they are both quite slim and repeat information between them.  Can we have a quick "show of hands" as to the general opinion on this?--Wierdy1024 22:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Pull-down resistor]]? 

message: I'm looking for an expert on the topic of what damage/disadvantage say using a pull up or down resistor of say zero ohms is (ie. just connect an input straight to power supply or ground).  I know it works, but that it's generally considered bad proctice but why?  I just ask because on a project I'm working on I could dramaticly reduce the component count by wiring everything straight high or low.--Wierdy1024 22:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What? That wouldn't work.  You need a resistance so that the node can be pulled in the opposite direction by a smaller effective resistance in the transistor.  Pull-up resistors are very cheap and small, so getting rid of them would not save much, even if it did somehow work. — Omegatron 16:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An input that is pulled up to a logic 1 can be forced to logic 0 with a jumper - sometimes this is useful (for diagnostics, or setting options with jumper blocks or DIP switches), and not possible to do if the input is hard-wired to the power supply rail. --Wtshymanski 18:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why use a resistor in the first place? 

message: No offense , but I reverted your deletion of the carefully worded content I added to the lede. For one thing, it's WP standard practice for the article's first sentence to say what a pull-up is, yet this essential definition was not only missing from the lede, it was completely missing from the article! Also, examples and applications of pull-ups cannot be used as "definitions"; their practical use is limited to conveying how, where and why pull-ups are used. I'm sure you had legitimate concerns when you deleted my contribution, but unfortunately your edit summary didn't make those concerns clear. In particular, what did you mean by "a fishing net?". And when you said "introduces jargon without adding clarity", what jargon was introduced that you feel had no value and added no clarity whatsoever? I don't claim that my work is flawless, but would you please discuss these issues here before executing another wholesale reversion? Lambtron (talk) 22:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "signal net" is jargon and needlessly opaque. Why are we writing a tautology into the lead sentence?  We'd be insulting the reader if we wrote  "A blue house is a house] that is blue." Definition is over rated in this case. --Wtshymanski (talk) 01:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If "signal net" seems "opaque" to you, why not simply replace it with something you feel is less opaque? Also, please explain why you consider the definition "a taugology", keeping in mind the obvious violation of WP:BOLDTITLE in the version you reverted to. And why do you think a reader would be "insulted" by a description of the topic? I've pointed out several valid problems in the lede and made good faith attempts to correct them, and received no feedback except blanket reversions of my work and vague explanations for those reversions. I would very much like to hear your thoughts on how we can collaborate to fix the problems and bring the article up to WP standards. Lambtron (talk) 03:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "I would very much like to hear your thoughts on how we can collaborate to fix the problems and bring the article up to WP standards." There are a lot of editors around here who would like nothing more.   does not do collaboration with anyone and exists solely to edit war.  He will even change any argument he makes on one talk page to the polar opposite in another to facilitate a different edit war.  He has even done this in adjacent discussions on the same talk page.   See  for more.  Wtshymanski has had two subsequent blocks for ignoring the outcome of that RfC and is a regular fixture on the administrators' noticeboards.  Good luck! DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 11:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

text:  Took out the link, but you're OK with "Pull up resistorS" being bolded? I think it reads just fine. --Wtshymanski (talk) 15:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:BOLDTITLE and WP:BEGIN carefully -- they will help you understand the issues here. Lambtron (talk) 15:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

text: , I see you've fixed the WP:BOLDTITLE problem. Now would you please fix WP:BEGIN, which is a much more significant problem? I've tagged the article to bring attention to this; feel free to remove it when you add a definition. Lambtron (talk) 19:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics#Pull-up_resistor brought me here. I have made some changes to the lead I hope they are improvements. --Kvng (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition