Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2008/Archive 2

message: Some members had been joking around with this article.. Admins, please put an end to this, and have this page full-protected immediately  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tony0106 (talk • contribs). 
: If you wish to request protection of the page go to WP:RFPP and make a request. I have removed an edit protected template added to the article - this template is only to request an edit be made to an already protected article. Camaron1 | Chris 10:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: - sorta. I've semi-protected the page, as it seems to be just new accounts & sockery. I'm reluctant to lock the article down completely at this point. Can we see how semi goes? If it's still bad, just get back to WP:RPP and we can re-evaluate it? Thanks - Alison ☺ 11:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, first of all... ask, don't demand.  Second, there is not sufficient disruption to this page at this point to fully protect it.  I know it's annoying, but you have other options available to you: RFC and dispute resolution, for instance.  You may re-request at RFPP if neither of those seem to work, but I decline full protection at this point.  - Philippe | Talk 19:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FULL PROTECTION TO THE PAGE 

message: The semi-protection template on this article seems to be been removed without explanation by  every 24 hours currently, despite me attempting to contact this user via his/her talk page in a request to stop removing it a number of times. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do now? I don't see any reason why the template should be removed, it helpfully shows the article is semi-protected, why it is semi-protected, and how long for. Camaron1 | Chris 20:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you tried asking an admin to do something about it? hint, hint... The Rambling Man 11:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I noticed this time.  Editor blocked for a short period, tag restored.  Let me know if it happens again (after 48 hours or so...) The Rambling Man 11:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protection template

message: Hi, can somebody please tell me (providing a reliable source) when did Ireland confirm participation or state that they're not eager to withdraw anymore??? Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony0106 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: Andorra is cofirmed participant for Belgrade.The Andorran delegation members Creu Rossell though confirmed that at the moment ATV has no intention to withdraw from the Eurovision Song Contest.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChRis (talk • contribs) 02:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andorra is cofirmed 

message: I have restored Iceland and Bulgaria again on the national finals listing. I am little confused on why they were removed. They were both sourced and I cannot see anything immediately wrong with the sources given. If they are removed again, can the remover please state why. Thanks. Camaron1 | Chris 09:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright I see, keep them removed them - I thought there would be a good reason. Camaron1 | Chris 16:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't see why we can't keep it to the structure of the other page either, it is work in progress though, the 2007 one currently has many sections this one can't have. Camaron1 | Chris 16:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Iceland & Bulgaria

message: where is the source that confirmed the participation of the Czech Republic?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony0106 (talk • contribs) 05:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech Republic 

message: I am concerned on the interpretations been made of sources in the National Finals section. It says for Israel that the national final will be held in December 2007, yet the source says The national final is expected to be held as early as the end of December 2007 - meaning it could be later. I notice some of the dates are in italics, I assume this is supposed to mark dates that are unclear - I doubt most readers will realise that is what the italics mean, and there is nothing I can find in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting) that endorses the use of italics in this way anyway. For the time being I am adding a tag to that section marking my concerns - I am now planning to re-clean that section to make it as clear as possible. Camaron1 | Chris 18:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of italics 

message: What was decided about the two semifinals thing?Whether there will be two semi-finals or not, will be decided on September 28.Today was September 28?Any news?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.76.219 (talk) 12:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean this news article ; yes it indeed looks like we are going to have to make some big changes to the article, including perhaps some details of the news of this new way of running ESC. I have added an update tag to the article - please do not remove it until the article is fully updated. Camaron1 | Chris 16:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The map has been updated now. Chwech 16:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The decision 

message: when did Poland confirmed participation  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony0106 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You shoudent use Wikipedia pages themselves as sources, but you can use sources provided on other Wikipedia pages if there are any. Camaron1 | Chris 20:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poland? 

message: Can you please tell me why did you remove the Netherlands off the national finals list?That country confirmed that it will take part and plus again it will held an internal selection...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.76.219 (talk) 00:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Netherlands

message: I would suggest we keep Azerbaijan in the "Possible new participants" section for now as it is unclear on if they will participate this year, as sourced. Camaron1 | Chris 14:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I have had a look at the page and it does appear to be suggesting that Azerbaijan will debut. If we do move Azerbaijan from its current position it might fit in well in a new section such as "Confirmed new participants". Camaron1 | Chris 10:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I am not sure how the article is getting to long, the article is currently well within size recommendations. The article is going to have to be different from last year, due to the change in format, and simply because it is a different year. I am going to leave it for now, but please give a reason for removing content on the talk page or in the edit summary, when you remove it the first time. Camaron1 | Chris 16:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Azerbaijan

message: Hello, I'm an ESC fan from Brazil. I knew today that Italy, sadly, will not join the next Eurovision Song Contest, because RAI and European Broadcasting Union still have debts between themselves. I'm so sad, because I want to see Italy back soon to the Eurovision Song Contest. And Jordan also will not join ESC because do not recognize Israel as an Independent State.
So, I had make some changes in the ESC 2008 page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.131.17.230 (talk) 22:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Italy has been moved several times recently, some saying that it could possibly participate, others saying it definitely won't. I agree that it is unlikely that Italy will take part in ESC this year, but unless a reliable source is found spelling out it won't participate, then I suggest we keep it in the other members section. Camaron1 | Chris 08:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Well spotted Tony. Jordan has quite a pro-Western foreign policy so there should be no problem with them broadcasting a Israeli entry. Camaron1 | Chris 08:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italy and Jordan definitively out of ESC 2008