Talk:Neville Howse

message: He was born in England how was he an Australian - he would have been called a pom by the Aussies Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian ? 

message: I managed to get my hands on a copy of Murray's Records of Australian Contingents, which does indeed list Howse as receiving the KSA medal with two clasps (on page 18). However there are some inconsistencies which need further research. The following details are listed on page 16:
*The Second Contingent of the NSW Army Medical Corps left Sydney on 17 January 1900
*The corps disembarked in East London (South Africa) on 22 February 1900.
*Part of the contingent left Cape Town on 3 November 1900 (arriving Sydney 8 December 1900)
*The main portion left Cape Town on 13 Dec 1900 (arriving Sydney 8 January 1901).
Assuming that Howse left with the main portion, then he had 295 days in theatre.
But.... (there's always a but)... this site lists shipping movements, and states that Lieutenant N R Howse of the NSW Medical Staff arrived in Southhampton Water (ie, England) on the evening of 18 Dec 1900, having left Cape Town on 28 November 1900 as an invalid on the Orotava. The same site also notes that the Orient left Cape Town for Australia and New Zealand 13 December 1900, and does not list Howse in the NSW Medical Staff contingent.
Assuming Howse arrived in South Africa on 22 Feb 00, and left on 29 Nov 00, then he had 281 days in theatre. I would prefer to validate this detail before committing to it.
To continue on page 16 of Murray:
* The Australian Commonwealth Army Medical Contingent embarked in Sydney on 11 February 1902.
* The transport reached Durban on 17 March 1902, disembarking on 19 March 1902.
* The Bearer Company (under Howse's command) embarked at Durban on 8 July 1902
This gives Howse 111 days in theatre, of which 74 days was within the KSA medal entitlement period (up to 1 June 1902)
As a result - Howse had either 369 or 355 days (12.3 or 11.8 months) in South Africa.
From those dates, Howse failed to meet the 18 months minimum service time for the KSA medal. Also - he is listed as receiving two clasps (South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902), however from the dates given, he could not have been entitled to the 1901 clasp.
Summary so far - I am beginning to doubt his entitlement to the KSA, however I have not seen absolute proof of Howse's arrival and departure dates in South Africa (only his contingent arrival and departure dates). I will check the War Memorial records in a few weeks, and also try and access the Sydney Morning Herald archives for the period (which should list arrivals/departures). PalawanOz (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates in South Africa 

message: I have just got hold of two biographies that provided a wealth of information - Anzac Doctor by Stuart Braga and Neville Howse by Michael Tyquin. From those, it appears clear that Howse was not entitled to the Kings South Africa Medal. In fact, Braga actually notes on page 76 the confusion caused with Murray "erroneously indicating that Howse received the Queen's Medal with six clasps and the King's Medal with two clasps". I will amend the main page with the information contained in the two biographies. PalawanOz (talk) 07:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal Entitlement - new reference 

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