Talk:Star (heraldry)

message: Who knows how to blazon the charge in the arms of Giebenac, Basel-land, Switzerland?  --Daniel C. Boyer 19:54, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A mullet voided and interlaced.  —Tamfang 05:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Giebenac

message: Since mullet and estoile (which is currently virtually unknown to WP) are such small topics, I'm thinking of incorporating both here and moving it to Star (heraldry), with redirects from Mullet (a dab page) and Estoile. Wilhelm_meis (talk) 01:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible move

message: Depending on the definition used for "national", it might also be worth adding the flags of the Cook Islands, Tokelau, Christmas Island, the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, the Cayman Islands,  and the Northern Marianas to this list. Grutness...wha? 08:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  National flags 

message: This article seems a bit confused about its own topic. It was a little bit of a stretch when the article was only trying to parse heraldic "stars", "mullets" and "estoiles", but since a lot of vexillological content (easily half the article's current content) was added about two years ago, stars in flags have added to the apparent tergiversation of this article's topic. Should we talk about splitting off the vexillological content? If so, what title would we use? Star (vexillology), or something else? Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I see this issue still has not been addressed during my long absence. I will seek commentary from the heraldry and vexillology project. Please add commentary here. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 03:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see the motivation for the split. Does a star have a different appearance or meaning on a flag than it does on arms? Is there a precedent for splitting articles on heraldic charges in this manner? Ibadibam (talk) 21:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

text: we usually treat heraldic charges together with their vexillological analogues. Unless there is some pressing reason not to I don't see what is gained by a split. Clearly the use of stars in flags is directly derived from their use in heraldry (e.g. :File:Wapen 1545 110.jpg is simply a flag showing the coat of arms of Maastricht, it is pointless to distinguish a "vexillological mullet" on the flag from the "heraldic mullet" in the coa). Of course modern flag designers care less and less about heraldic principles (hence "tergiversation", I suppose), but that's just a historical trend we're going to have to report on, our coverage of heraldic topics cannot be "prescriptive" as might be the case with dedicated heraldry projects. --dab (𒁳) 12:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

text: That said, I can understand that the star in particular has been exceptionally popular in vexillology, for whatever reason. I do see a reasonable case for separating vexillological listcruft. The concept of "star/mullet/estoile in vexillology" would still be on topic here, but List of national flags with stars could very well be a list page (as could list of coats of arms with stars, the distinction is not vexillological vs. heraldic but list vs. non-list). --dab (𒁳) 12:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Star (heraldry)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Economist":
From Nauru: 
From Flag of Europe: 
From Venezuela: "Venezuela The homecoming". Economist.com (23 February 2013). Retrieved on 20 April 2013.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Star (heraldry)]]