Talk:Lucas Neill

message: With Barcelona now after him it looks like he is now to skillful for BRFC.
Are we not misleading Wikipedia's many users by calling this man 'skilful'. Having followed BRFC for many years now, I don't agree with the current description.
:I've edited it out entirely, rather than the article saying the exact opposite of what was being said before. I think that's the easiest thing to do to uphold NPOV. Bobo. 04:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skilful? 

message: I think some of the information listed under International Career needs to be shifted to England Career.  Although, both articles will then need other adjustments so they make sense. Samatic 19:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  International and England Career 

message: Does anyone know the correct spelling of his surname? The article lists it as 'Lucas Neill', with a double 'l'. I've always thought it was Lucas Neil, with a single 'l'. Can anyone clear this up for me? Raph89 15:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you are correct but SMH and FFA sites both call him "Neill". I have definitely seem it spelled with one 'l' though... Downunda 21:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The double 'L' is correct. 121.44.140.88 23:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: as it remains news, citation please? Chensiyuan 13:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , hasn't been completed yet, just agreed, best bet is that he'll join on Monday, don't know where this "end of season" stuff is coming from. Gran2 18:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: West Ham move

message: Just did an NPOV description of the 'penalty' incident between Neill & Grosso @ FIFA 2006. Most controversial will be the statement that Neill
'did not remain motionless.' Readers are invited to watch various YouTube videos to check the description against the images.
Tapered (talk) 06:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but I share Camw's reservation about the edit about Cantalejo officiating the quarterfinal match. All top referees officiate multiple matches in the knockout stages, so it's not particularly noteworthy on its own. Unless there was a reason he shouldn't have called the QF match, it has nothing to do with Lucas Neill or the foul on Grosso. Hiddink and others on the Australia team complained about the penalty call, but there was never any call to sanction Cantalejo. I move to take it out. --Mosmof (talk) 22:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. If we are including the line to "balance" the Hiddink comment, then there has to be a reliable source cited indicating that the subsequent appointment was because the decision was reviewed and correct otherwise it is speculation which doesn't belong in the article and isn't balanced at all. It would be better to balance the comment with a comment supporting the decision from someone else, maybe of similar standing to Hiddink - the Italian coach or representative, FIFA official or someone along those lines. Camw (talk) 04:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, hope doesn't necessarily make right. We're not going to argue whether it was correct or not, but considering how controversial the decision was at the time, and I don't think anyone disputes that the Australian team universally disagreed with the decision, and I recall much of the public opinion siding with the Australians. I've restored Hiddink's comment, a neutral opinion, the opposing viewpoint, and Neill's own reaction. --Mosmof (talk) 04:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Relevance? I looked at the Markus Merk article and the FIFA section is terribly written. I hope we're not trying to emulate that. Plus, this is an article about the player, not the referee. Unless Australia formally appealed FIFA, mentioning that Cantalejo officiated the next round as it if it is meaningful smacks of WP:SYNTH. Mosmof (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Here's the thing - there's a difference between questioning a decision and questioning the competency of a referee. You're not necessarily a poor referee if you make a bad decision, especially in this case, where the controversy was over whether Grosso simulated. Falling for trickery isn't necessarily a technical error or indication of poor officiating style, the kind of stuff referees are actually punished for. Referees don't get punished for making controversial decisions, which is what we're talking about here. Mosmof (talk) 00:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006 World Cup penalty hubbub

message: Why on earth does it say at the side of the page he plays for bolton wanderers???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.209.227 (talk) 18:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolton 

message: Does the selection of the referee, Cantalejo, to officiate in the Quarter Finals of FIFA 2006 warrant inclusion in the article, given the full description of the controversy surrounding his officiating in the Round of 16 which is included in the article?
Tapered (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Try another RFC as this one expired, but nobody out of the other three editors you've discussed this with has supported your view so far. If FIFA doesn't comment on it, we shouldn't either as we are drawing conclusions that aren't supported by any reliable sources. Camw (talk) 11:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Further to this I am going to remove the information again as it was readded for the purposes of discussing the now expired RfC and there was no support to keep it. BLP Policy states "Remove any unsourced material to which an editor objects in good faith; or which is a conjectural interpretation of the source". This statement is a conjectural interpretation of the decision to appoint the referee for subsequent rounds and has been objected to in good faith by two other editors on this page. It is up to you to show consensus for inclusion, which hasn't happened so far. Re-adding the information without consensus to do so would be against the stated policy. Camw (talk) 11:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

text: It is up to you to show consensus for inclusion, and there has been nothing close to such consensus on this talk page. Camw (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Fine with how it is now and I'm looking forward to moving on to more productive work. If it is as you insist, about the referee, then the incident should be detailed in his article rather than this one. Camw (talk) 01:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Does the selection of Cantalejo to officiate in the Quarter Finals warrant inclusion in the article

message: Isn't he clubless now?--LidZeppelen (talk) 21:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Club

message: Mark Viduka never officially announced his retirement. He just faded out into the distance. How long before we can list Neill as retired????  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.166.167 (talk) 10:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Something along the lines of this would do for Neill. --Egghead06 (talk) 12:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retired 

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