Talk:Turkana Boy

message: The sentence "This suggests that early childhood development was more rapid that equivalent to modern adolescents" in this section is grammatically incorrect. What is trying to be said there? Slicing 23:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe I've made a reasonably clarifying edit. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adolescence & Maturity 

message: "Richard Leakey also mentions in his novel Origin of humankind (1995) that Turkana Boy's theoretic vertebrae is narrower than in modern Homo sapiens's, meaning that he could not make complex speech due to less air being received into his lungs"
I pretty sure this is in reference to thoracic vertebrae, as you can see the long, sloping spinous process clearly. As well, the fact that the thoracic vertebrae form the support network to enclose the lungs. The wording of this phrase does not lead me to believe this is speculation on somthing which isn't there. Furthermore, I have only seen the term "theoretic vertebrae" in overly pompous descriptions of abstractions, such as, "the theoretic vertebrae    eeeeee   deathof Hegel's dialectics can weather the weight of analysis." 24.80.112.40 20:38, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Corrected, awhile ago. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theoretic Vertebrae? 

message: "Richard Leakey also mentions in his novel Origin of humankind (1995) that Turkana Boy's thoracic vertebrae is narrower than in modern Homo sapiens's, meaning that he could not make complex speech due to less air being received into his lungs."
Is this correct? I would have thought that body size and air received into the lung have a tight correlation.
Isn't the size of the vertebrae related to nerve control over the lungs, and that is a requirement to control complex speech?
Is there a relationship between the size of the nerves going to the lungs, and the level or complexity of 'speech' production in other animals? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.162.179.218 (talk • contribs) .
:I'm sure body size and lung capacity are related, but only in so much that vertebral size contributes to body size. I would expect the correlation of vertebral size and lung capacity to be much stronger than body size and lung capacity. (A large gut contributes to body size, but does not significantly contribute to lung capacity.) As for nerves, I'm not sure. I can surmise that control of air release would be needed for long composition in a single breath, but I know plenty of people who talk way longer than a single breath. *grins* - UtherSRG (talk) 14:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Speech, lungs, and vertebrae

message: I have edited and added new information. I have removed notification tags, including the chunk below, which I find inappropriate this article and also unsubstantiated:
:However, there are different views on the origin of language:
:*1.9 million years ago (Homo habilis had a large Broca's area able to be seen in the cranium of KNM ER 1813), possible signs of the earliest ability for speech.
:*1.5 million years ago, on the arrival of several distinct more human-like hominins spread throughout Africa, Europe, and Asia (i.e. Homo erectus).
:*600,000 and 150,000 years ago when archaic Homo sapiens dominated regions in the Pleistocene epoch (several members during this period are considered fully modern Homo sapiens)
:*50,000 years ago (fully modern Homo sapiens had already spread through the Old World and slowly into the New World 20,000 BCE. Some believe language coincided solely with modern humans once culture was established by groups such as Cro-Magnon man in Europe. It is still a matter of debate whether Neanderthals had a modern form of language.
On the other hand it may be a good information for origin of language, but then again there should be supporting citations. Chhandama (talk) 07:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edit 

message: The article needs better sourcing for the name "Turkana Boy". The one inline citation is a dead link. Matuko (talk) 14:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Turkana Boy" 

message: 2603:6011:5400:B9A0:AC96:2DA4:FCF5:1BC9 (talk) 01:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to state the edit that you wish to make. Vsmith (talk) 01:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2021 

message: "The Smithsonian estimates that he was 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in) tall and weighed 48 kg (106 lb) when he died, and may have been close to his adulthood height.[10] In adulthood, Turkana Boy might have reached 185 centimetres (6.07 ft) tall and massed 68 kilograms (150 lb)." 
The claim about what height he might have reached in adulthood is pure speculation. What is the evidence of any tallness among even pre-Bronze Age Sapiens? What is the tallest Homo Erectus ever found? 2001:1C00:1E20:D900:C1C8:11FD:11F3:B6AB (talk) 04:09, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkana'Boy' Height