Talk:Ontario Highway 401/Archive 1

message: After splitting the Interchanges list into a separate listing, someone from Wisconsin suggested Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of exits on Highway 401 (Ontario) deleting the new article...so much for cutting down the size of this one.....
Bacl-presby 20:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article for deletion

message: I feel that the list of interchanges deserves it own article.... There is an extensive amount of information in that portion of the article, more than enough for a quality article on a seperate page, do you agree? Greenboxed 17:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interchanges

message: the article is getting too long--any suggestions??
--Someone want to put the exits into a separate article??
192.30.202.19 21:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SIZE OF ARTICLE

message: So, 65.207.214.134 has twice removed the former interchange numbers...As I've got a copy of the 1970 Official Road Map, I've got the listing of exits 1-128, as reqested(and there's the source!!)
Enjoy!
Bacl-presby 19:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That editor seems to have a problem not only with your exit numbers but with the whole exit list for some reason. --SPUI (T - C) 19:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If you're talking about the order of the columns, I think the current one fits best at the end, right next to the name. --SPUI (T - C) 22:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Former Interchanges (attention 207.214.134...)

message: I've made a couple of changes to category order; "Interchanges from west to East" starts at the Interchange table.
I've also added the names of adjacent communities, such as Belle River, Ontario to Belle River Road, and probably the furthest away from the highway is Guelph, Ontario. Please don't get carried away!! 
Bacl-presby 21:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Update to STOP!!

message: Why is the list of municipalities necessary, if the interchange list already lists the municipalities through which this highway passes? It seems to me to be completely unnecessary, and it makes the article look unwieldy. Darkcore 06:52, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Municipalities 

message: An anonymous contributor added a passage:
:...their US gateways in Niagara and Detroit are considered the most important strategic infrastructure in Canada by the US intelligence community. This status may make them the most likely terrorist targets in Canada. Effective crippling of this infrastructure could single-handedly implode the Canadian economy and likely push the US economy into recession.
I am skeptical?  Another anonymous contributor removed this passage.  And someone else reverted that removal.  Like I said, I am skeptical.  If the bridges were destroyed, surely some large ferries could be borrowed or chartered, until the bridges could be repaired or replaced?  If no-one can provide an authoritative, neutral, source for this claim I think it should be erased. -- Geo Swan 11:42, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I am skeptical of that as well.  I also question the necessity of having a section on terrorism for a highway.  It is just that, a highway, not a future terrorist target.  Whats next, a terrorist rating for every highway, bridge and major building that has an article here on this site.  I think the terrorism part should be removed. --24.103.242.178 21:36, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Destruction by Terrorists would implode the Canadian economy?

message: Was 401 ever officially known as the Toronto Bypass?  Uncertain? Barry Zuckerkorn 18:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Toronto Bypass

message: I've tentatively changed the highway's direction in the infobox from East/West to Northeast/Southwest.  As someone who grew up by the 401, I understand that most of us think of it as east/west, but it travels about 300 km north/south as well, from Cornwall at just over 45 degN to Windsor at just over 42 degN. David 19:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direction 

message: There's a lot of fantasy here stated as fact.  "A long term plan is to extend the 12-lane express/collector system as far west as Guelph and Kitchener."; "The Ontario government is also planning to widen the Mississauga stretch from 6 lanes to 12 lanes from the 403-410 interchange to the Credit River, and 10 lanes to Mississauga Road "A plan is currently underway by the Ministry of Transportation to widen the highway to at least six lanes for its length from Windsor to the Quebec border."  Either add references to delete non-factual information. Nfitz 23:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a lot of fantasy here 

message: Is there a source on the most recent volume information?  If the AADT is over 600,000 vehicles as of 2006, this clearly vaults 401 into the top position in the world, versus being in a three-way horse race with the Santa Monica Freeway and US 59 in Houston. Snickerdo 19:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Like I said, what are we talking about? The entire length of I-95 has to dwarf any of those highways. Hell US route 1 has to dwarf any of those as well.--Rotten 19:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I recommend you do some research on how AADT is measured.  It's at a single point on the highway, not the total number of cars that have used every point of the highway in a single day.  Length has absolutely nothing at all to do with this. Snickerdo 19:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest Volume Information? 

message: I removed this section. It had nothing to do with facts and figures, and was pure unencyclopedia trivia. Flyguy649talkcontribs 04:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facts and figures section removed 

message: I don't recall the portion of the 401 between Windsor and Chatham being called Carnage Alley until the mid 1990s. Also the lack of paved shoulders was a contributing factor in many crashes (most crashes involved or started as a single vehicle incident). And can we call them vehicle crashes not accidents? Mousky67 15:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carnage Alley 

message: Since it is official, I've already made a redirect link, though I don't think it will be worth to have an individual article.--JForget 16:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Highway of Heroes]]