Talk:List of Romani people

message: After I removed this article from this list, because she is not a famous Romani person, Psychonaut readded it without giving a proper explanation. Namely, how is she and her bigraphy significant for this page? Among the Romani people she is just a common person that certainly does not deserve a wiki article, (in fact currently is developing a request for deletion where I contend that it is just an anti-Romani propaganda, selecting negative things about Roma, the same as The Eternal Jew was in other times). Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 08:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article lists Roma people with Wikipedia articles.  Bangová is Roma.  Therefore Bangová is listed here.  Please confine the debate on her notability to one place at a time (currently, the AfD). —Psychonaut 11:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And what is your authority to decide that this list comprise any unheard Romani person? Just because you want it? This is active "Gypsy" image creation.  Wait for a debate, a consensus, don't put unilateraly what you imagine (especially when you consider yourself as an expert in wiki editing). The list is long time established to comprise only representative Romani persons. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 11:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bangová was in this list for years until you removed her entry two days ago.  If anyone should be waiting for a debate or consensus before changing the article, I think it's you.  Unless or until Bangová's article is deleted, there is no policy-supported reason for her not to be in this list. —Psychonaut 15:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who's me to be judged as a standard of time? I just did not notice it, until I organized the :Category:Romani people into more focused subcats. You failed to answer how Bangova is representative for the Romani people, why should her name be in this list. The only conclusion is that this is anti-Romani propaganda, active enforcement of stereotypes. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 17:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a list of individuals representative of the Romani people.  If you wish, you may start an article on that topic, though I don't see how it will avoid POV issues.  And please stop insisting that editors answer irrelevant questions.  Keep your objections grounded in policy. —Psychonaut 12:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Margita Bangova's article addition

message: Let us stop that war
They don't want to know all the truth, they want to see only painted gypsies - ok, i'm tired of it. RomanyChaj  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Those people *** my mind 

message: the list problem I fixed. Now there can be no questions asked. This list is also ideal because you get the basic list in the index part as well as not a run on list in the page itself, and there is no controvery over the lawyering of "list" tags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RYNORT (talk • contribs) 17:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: list fixed

message: This article is in need of serious cleanup. I have just standardized the format, but I hope to eventually A. include nationality and birth/death dates for all listed persons, B. Alphabetize sections be either first or last name, and C.  remove all redlinks, assuming nobody plans on writing their biography soon. This is both to allow easy reading, and to comply with the same standards other ethnic lists seem to keep. Feel free to help. The Myotis (talk) 01:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this assessment. Further, unless an individual is included in at least one Romani category on his/her article page, they should be removed from this list. RashersTierney (talk) 13:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Will begin cleanup today as outlined unless objections suggested. RashersTierney (talk) 08:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious Cleanup

message: Why are these people on the Talk page and not in the article? Are you still trying to decide if they are Roma? Or are they all mixed people and don't count? If so, why not add a section to the article for People of Roma heritage? 
The list is for "People of Roma heritage",mixed people.The list above it is "List of Roma People", there is a difference.
David Blaine http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/fulldetail/id/1118607
Fairuza Balk http://www.wirehouse.com/bio.asp?t=a&SiteID=FairuzaBalk
(Eugene Hutz) Gogol Bordello http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/arts/004703.html
Michelle Branch http://www.mtv.com/bands/b/branch_michelle/news_feature_100601/index.jhtml
Sylvia Browne (I met her and she IS Roma) http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/messagepost.cfm?postaction=reply&catid=40&threadid=13776&messid=82235&STARTPAGE=1&parentid=0&from=1
Raymond Buckland http://www.raybuckland.com/
John Bunyan http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm
Yul Brynner http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9017835?tocId=9017835
Eric Cantona- I dont know, I did'nt add him http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm
Michael Caine http://www.pirkadat.org/gypsy_spirit2004
Charlie Chaplin http://www.pirkadat.org/gypsy_spirit2004
Nikita Denise http://www.nikita-denise.org/
Louise Doughty http://www.writersfest.bc.ca/2004festival/author.php?author=21
George Bramwell Evens http://www.kimia-sains.com/articles/Romany
Ava Gardner I dont know she was on the list from before I began coming here
Tony Gatlif http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html
Edyta Gorniak http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm
Cary Grant-Someone else added him
Johnny Frankham-http://www.travellersinleeds.co.uk/_travellers/boxing.html
Rita Hayworth http://www.kipaddotta.com/rita-hayworth.html
Bob Hoskins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hoskins
August Krogh http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/
Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm
Albert Lee http://www.fmsound.net/NewReleases/Articles/Albert%20Lee/Albert%20Lee.html
Andy McCoy http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345
Victor Mature- I did'nt add him
Helen Mirren http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Helen_Mirren
Denny Laine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denny_Laine http://www.answers.com/topic/denny-laine
Ibolya Oláh-Did'nt add
Pablo Picasso
http://www.lavozdigital.es/cadiz/prensa/20061029/ocio/gitano-arte-busca-jerez_20061029.html
-http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-229005
Freddy Prinze http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504 http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190
Sandro http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm
George Soros-Did'nt add, Hungarian, gives to Gypsy charities, will look further
Mother Teresa http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/timeofthegypsies.htm http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm
Rodrigo de Triana
according to research by Antonio Gómez Alfaro
 http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-
Joe Zawinul-Did'nt add
Dejan Savićević-Did'nt add
Aljoša Asanović-Did'nt add
Johnny Frankham
http://www.travellersinleeds.co.uk/_travellers/boxing.html 
Helen Mirren
http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Helen_Mirren
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html 
August Krogh
http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/
John Bunyan
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm
Iker Jimenez (journalist spanish)- corroborated by the cousin Patxi Ruiz
http://i57.tinypic.com/2w2hrf4.png  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.108.251.124 (talk) 09:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsigned 

message: Where on this article's talk page was there ever a consensus reached on the move from "Romani" to "Rroma"? Just wondering. —Zalktis (talk) 11:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: This article is a mess. I have been trying to fix it up for a couple of days. I'm not going to decide who is or isnt Roma but please check your sources. Some of these "lists of Romani people" pages circulating on the internet are NOT reliable. Also, if someone has (or claims) Romani descent because "he/she thinks her grandmother may have had gypsy blood", explain this on the entry, or just delete it.
In many European countries being called a gypsy is sadly still quite offensive so its not a good idea to randomly start labelling people as Romani without it being clear that they belong to this ethnic group and culture. It is also quite damaging to the Romani people and identity to have random celebrities jumping onto the bandwagon of Romani ethnicity without any valid justification. 
This reminds me of the millions of white americans who claim they have Cherokee blood (the myth of the cherokee princess). Should they all be included in a list of native american indians???? --81.32.251.116 (talk • contribs)  21:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleaning up this article

message: As much as I like him and he is a great boxer, he is still not of the same blood as me (I am of Romani blood).
The Fury's are an Irish Traveler (Pavee) family and not a Romani one.
Irish Travelers (Pavee) speak Gammin which is an Irish Gaelic originating language and they originate from Ireland. Whereas Romani speak Romani which is an Indian originating language and they origin from India.
Other Irish Traveler (Pavee) families are the Cash, Rooney (Wayne Rooney - footballer & Dan Rooney - bare knuckle boxer), Doherty (Paddy Doherty - bare knuckle boxer & TV celebrity), Ward (Shayne Ward - singer), McGinley, McDonagh, Joyce, Nevin
None of the Irish traveler families are Romani. They are a different ethnic group completely
Tsigano (talk) 17:39, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson Fury is Irish Traveler and not Romani. 

message: Pyotr Leshchenko is listed here as a person of Romani origin, but neither English, nor Russian articles about him have any references for that. He was born in Romania, and he performed Gypsy music, but there's nothing about his origins. If he was indeed Romani, is there a way to reference it properly? Khakhalin (talk) 19:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pyotr Leshchenko - no references proving that he was of Romani origin 

message: There is no real citation and therefore not known, that/whether Otto Mueller's mother had been Sintezza--Werner, Deutschland (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other false inscription 

message: There were racist people of Spain who eliminated the Spanish version was even better documented and extensively than in this release. Please protect this great article.
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thread_title:  Please protect this great article 

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message: Shouldn't Elvis Presley and Sean Connery be somewhere on the list? 2A00:23C5:C102:9E00:DC54:DC5A:F65C:B511 (talk) 20:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither of their articles support inclusion in the list. -- Alexf(talk) 21:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elvis Presley and Sean Connery 

message: Charlie Chaplin was Romani
https://womenandhollywood.com/carmen-chaplin-to-direct-doc-about-grandfather-charlie-chaplin/ Mcnordine (talk) 10:26, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charlie Chaplin 

message: 2/3 on the list are not of Romani origins. I removed the names from my country which are bogus, but I can't really speak for others. Just because some have dark hair doesn't mean they are Romani. I have my doubts Ibrahimovic is a Romani. .karellian-24 (talk) 09:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The book of Christos Kassimeris is hilarous 

message: i don't really know her. 
but it's not mentioned in her wiki that she is roma
and in her guardian obituary it is explicitly mentioned 
" Although not of Roma origin herself, Hubschmannova spent most of her life studying the Roma"
source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161202021932/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/sep/19/guardianobituaries.pressandpublishing1
can someone who know's more knowledgable look into it ?
thanks 77.137.71.22 (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constantin S. Nicolăescu-Plopșor not romani