Talk:The Supremes

message: In first paragraph of origins, "Diane Ross" should read "Diana Ross".  
184.57.207.139 (talk) 14:39, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Diane was the name that she went by in that time period. Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 2 June 2013 

message: 69.29.16.6 (talk) 19:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y  S A Y L E S  19:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2015 

message: Further Reading: Phillips, Ian. Diana Ross: Reflections. New Haven Publishing, 2015 
IanPhillips1979 (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: I hesitate to add this, because it appears you have a conflict of interest and are the author of the work you're asking to add. The referencing/notes/further reading subsections of this article are already in a confusing format... Is there anything in this book that will help support the content of the article? Any new details? -- ferret (talk) 03:12, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2015: To add to the Further Reading Section 

message: The article currently states, "The Supremes became the first black female performers of the rock era to embrace a more feminine image." What is this based on? I doubt that all the other black female performers of the rock era who preceded them -- some of whom were also Motown artists and would have been subject to the the company's image development policy too -- had masculine images. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:59, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Supremes became the first black female performers of the rock era to embrace a more [[feminine]] image"? 

message: Although very brief and short-lived, shouldn't there be an inclusion in the Line Ups section for the 2000 iteration of Diana Ross & The Supremes? Ross, Payne & Lawrence? It was an official tour and thus an official line up of the group. 110.86.19.122 (talk) 01:39, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line Ups 

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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:The Supremes]] for deletion 

message: I am concerned that the article does not meet the FA criteria. For example, considerable amount of content is not cited to a reliable source. (t · c) buidhe 21:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA criteria 

message: "With the death of Florence Ballard in 1976 and the death of Mary Wilson on February 8, 2021, there is no longer any possible reunion of the original classic lineup."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:EF05:973B:6C1A:1714:C718:D722 (talk) 17:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Simply put, regardless of Ballard's death or, particularly, Wilson's death, there would not have been a reunion of the Original Supremes - as they became to be known? Ross, in particular, was always singular, even Ballard's sister denoted this.  Furthermore, according to Ballard's sister, Ross was already the focal member of the Supremes, long before Gordy make his appointment.  Ross was always front and center, regardless of members.  Once, Gordy realized her potential, he wasted no time to milk it for all it was worth. Ross was "Supremely Bankable"; Ballard, Wilson, Terrell, Birdsong were not. Regardless of efforts, styles or time and place, Ross was the star and when she left, The Supremes were already gone when "LSTB" debuted, in October of 1972. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 21:05, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death has a way of doing that. 

message: Ballard's Depression was always predicated on her rape.  Her misdirected anger and subsequent drinking and withdrawal were results of her bitter resentment of having been raped.  Both Mary and later, Diana, admitted the distinct probability of Ballard's rape as the root of her eventual downfall. I admit that neither Gordy nor Ross did all that much to mitigate Ballard's discontentment but it was her rape that pushed her out of the group and eventual death. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 01:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: While the aforementioned is undeniable true, Ballard also lost a sibling or two? Ballard was already "Sassy" and sassy isn't a compliment. SHe was rough, rude, crude and quite common and she spoke up, regardless of application. Ballard was not unlike Nancy Wilson, Cissy Houston, Dionne Warwick, Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight, et al. Traits which when not properly applied became demerits and ultimately, disconcerting. Ballard was, already difficult.  The rape solidified the effects of the rage and fueled the rage, discontentment and ultimately, self-destruction. Ross just walked around and Wilson sought to see who would be on the "Winning Side"? Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 21:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well of course Ross would begin start having the nasty "diva" attitude shortly after Ballard’s death, and Wilson kept trying to keep the Supremes alive because of the changing lineup from 1970-1977, as since people claimed that Ross had disrespected Ballard at her own funeral and people were asking for autographs - which was disrespectful. Either way that is disrespectful - but not actually. Ballard lost two siblings throughout her life, Roy from a car accident (in 1950s) and her brother in 1973. Gordy was actually body shaming Ballard as noted in Wilson’s book, with the quotes such as "big as a house" (actually quoted by Ross), and Gordy and Ballard went back and forth and then that ultimately caused Ballard to get kicked out as a founding member, which does not make sense at all. Gordy took bossy control over the group and used session singers instead of the actual Supremes - mostly the Andantes, and they started to use more fashioned dresses. Ross wanted Ballard out the group and I assumed throughout my life that Ross actually hated Ballard, which is possibly true because that Ross was totally pleased about Ballard leaving soon - and that happened 8 years after the group was formed. Gordy had nagged Ballard out mostly by 1966 just because she missed out in performances, which I can tell that affected Ballard's drinking or substance abuse. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 00:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Real Fuel For Ballard's continued Depression?