Talk:Guernésiais

message: Scots in Scotland and Ulster are the same language.
See:(http://ww2.eblul.org:8080/eblul/Public/member_state_committ/british_committee/uk2/view)
The european charter from the Council of Europe( http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/Commun/ListeDeclarations.asp?NT=148&CV=1&NA=&PO=999&CN=999&VL=1&CM=9&CL=ENG)
"b) The United Kingdom declares, in accordance with Article 2, paragraph 1 of the Charter that it recognises that Scots and Ulster Scots meet the Charter's definition of a regional or minority language for the purposes of Part II of the Charter." NOTE: _a_ regional or minority _language_ not two separate ones.
The North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) Northern Ireland Order 1999 defines Ullans (Ulster Scots) as: "the variety of the Scots language which has traditionally been used in parts of Northern Ireland and in Donegal in Ireland."
The Good Friday Agreement simply refers to Ulster Scots without the qualifier 'language'. (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/peace/docs/agreement.htm) "3. All participants recognise the importance of respect, understanding and tolerance in relation to linguistic diversity, including in Northern Ireland, the Irish language, Ulster-Scots and the languages of the various ethnic communities, all of which are part of the cultural wealth of the island of Ireland."
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I've added the two names I knew the language by while growing up -- Guernsey French and patois. The latter should not be considered derogatory, patois was the first language of my grandparents, and they never had a problem with calling it that.
Á la prochaine! Deadlock 16:17, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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message: Work is currently underway on a test Wikipedia in Norman, inclusive of Dgèrnésiais. Contributions and comments welcome. Man vyi 14:21, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A full Wikipedia has existed now for some time at :nrm:.  The Jade Knight 06:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norman Wikipedia 

message: I'd like to see a comprehensive verb chart for Guernsey Norman that could easily be compared with that at fr:Jersiais; does Dgèrnésiais, for example, have a similar present progressive?  Does it use a compound "composed future" like Jèrriais?  Does it have a -z- "composed past" like in Cotentinais?  These are more "unique" Norman grammatical features, and some of the most interesting things to compare between dialects.  The Jade Knight 06:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

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#Support.  As per nomination above (that was me, I happened to be logged out at the time).  Widsith 16:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: #Support.  As per nomination above (that was me, I happened to be logged out at the time).  Widsith 16:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: Hello ! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: I'm curious where the statistics for the number of speakers came from. It says there are 1327 native speakers, but 2% are fluent, so only around 30 people are fluent? This brings up another point of how you define the number of speakers a language has, what do we count as a speaker or fluency? If someone knows basic Guernésiais are they counted? There are approximately 65 573 residents on Guernsey, 1327 "native speakers" (how many speakers are not Native speakers), and only 2% of those speakers are fluent. Mr Languages (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Two percent of the resident population speak Guernésiais fluently. Note the difference between speakers: 1327 (2%) fluently and speakers: 1327 (2% fluently). Unoffensive text or character (talk) 06:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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message: I'm a native French speaker and have conversed with native speakers from both Jersey and Guernsey and I can confirm that both are basically dialects of French, or patois as we call it. Not only are the native speakers I met able to speak standard French, but the dialect is also intelligible to a native French speaker. It's just a bit weird to a native French speaker - but not more than any dialect. Also, the spelling basically reflects emphasis and the "vulgar" pronunciation in the dialect - which exists in other dialects. To classify those as separate languages from French amounts to classifying e.g. the Norman patois as a different language from French - which it isn't, it's just a sub-variety of it, or even amounts to classifying Quebec or Louisana French as different languages - which they are NOT, although pronounced slightly differently, and in Guernsey/Jersey French this is reflected in the spelling. 
The (English) decision to classify them as separate languages obviously reflects national pride in England and political motivations - much like Scots is by some a distinct language from English, whereas it is simply a regional variation of English...
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.188.71.12 (talk) 16:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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