Talk:Grand Moff Tarkin

message: The article is self-contradictory...the picture describes him as "loyal" who "carries out Palpatine's will", but then implies him a plot to gain power? Isn't that not loyal and more of cunning? Or was he loyal, but Palpatine was paranoid as usual and decided to purge him? Ie. sort of like Stalin using Yezhov to head the NKVD to do the dirty work then pure him afterwards? (But I'm more of thinking Vader was the loyal one, and perhaps Tarkin the dangerous one?) I don't follow Star Wars much, so I do not know. --Natalinasmpf 00:30, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A defining feature of the Sith (and by extension, the Empire), is that they are very loyal... up until the moment they plunge the dagger in their superior's back. --maru  (talk) contribs 19:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-contradiction 

message: I find this article confusing because it seems to list a whole pile of incident's in the character's life without saying what works they occurred in. Incidents from the movies seem to be mixed up with incidents from later novels. It would be much better if we could sort out what occurred in the moves from what occurred in other novels. DJ Clayworth 16:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its called "in-universe perspective" and its an Wikipedia no-no for just that reason WP:WAF. This article seems to be monument to how not to write an article. Odd that it ever was considered a "good article". Halfblue 04:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing

message: Sorry, but I think it's odd to include this EU information at the head of the article and in the infobox for a character as well known as Grand Moff Tarkin.  The vast majority of the public would be unaware of this information, making the article confusing rather than informative.  There's nothing wrong with mentioning EU notions such as this name, but as it has not appeared in the films, it should be restricted to the body of the article.Rhindle The Red 01:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed; I changed it to Grand Moff Tarkin, since that name is good enough for the article title.  Tempshill (talk) 07:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wilhuff

message: Is this figure the only one Grand Moff Tarkin action figure ever created? --David Pro 16:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tarkin's action figure 

message: Tarkin has, understandable, a noteable (IMHO) role in the novel 'Death Star'. Lots42 (talk) 23:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Star the novel 

message: This is mostly in-universe plot summary, with no citations to third-party sources to establish notability. I am redirecting this to List of Star Wars characters. Please feel free to add there any sort of that real-world/development stuff, but only if cited to sources. --EEMIV (talk) 14:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So... User:Gamaliel undid the redirect. Anyone going to offer up a reason why any of the cruft in this article should be preserved? The cited material added by User:Uncle G I'm happy to migrate to the List of, but none of those items asserts any independent notability for the subject. --EEMIV (talk) 18:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Uncle G's work is more than enough to have this article stand on its own. Gamaliel (talk) 19:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Yeah, there's more information here than can be gracefully incorporated into the list. I think the article can stand on its own now. Kudos to Uncle G. Zagalejo^^^ 02:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: Tarkin is apparently a good guy in the Clone Wars tv series.  Is he really a good guy, and he switches to the dark side later line Anakin did, or is he secretly already on the dark side like Palpatine is?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.182.207.184 (talk) 05:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clone Wars 

message: I don't think that sentence is structured very well, because he didn't outright refuse to wear boots. It should read "Cushing found the boots supplied by the costume department to be uncomfortable, and only wore them in scenes that were necessary. In all of the shots that did not show his feet, he wore slippers." or something to that effect...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.111.55.26 (talk) 10:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production 

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message: I recently expanded the lead section of the article as follows:
:"Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin, also known as Governor Tarkin, is a fictional character in the Star Wars universe. He was portrayed by Peter Cushing in the original Star Wars film (1977), in which the character was killed off. A younger version of the character, played by Wayne Pygram, briefly appears in the prequel film Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005). Tarkin also appears in the animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels, in both cases voiced by Stephen Stanton, and makes numerous further appearances in non-canonical expanded universe material. The character has been called "one of the most formidable villains in Star Wars history."
Following this, I found my edit reverted by User:EEMIV, with the rationale: "Unnecessary detail/trivia for lede; more appropriate in e.g. Appearances section or infobox." As it stands, the lead provides very basic context, stating little other than that Tarkin is a Star Wars villain, played by Peter Cushing. Surely more context than that is needed to establish notability; for example, the current lead tells us little about Tarkin's relative importance within the franchise, and I would argue that some brief explanation of which Star Wars media feature him is hardly "trivia". I'd point to the lead section of Jabba the Hutt, which is a featured article, in support of this. Anyway, thoughts? Jellyman (talk) 19:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead section 

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