Talk:Languages of Finland

message: No point adding possible secondary names to every place name in Wikipedia in the main text. Secondary names can be  found in the lead chapter of the place in question, not messing up every other article with brackets and irrelevant names.   --Pudeo⺮ 22:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As usual, Pudeo misses the whole point. Yes, we should normally use the main names of the cities and there's normally no need to add the names of cities in any other language. But in a paragraph explicitly dealing with the Swedish minority, where the communities are given explicitly in the context of being the communities in which most Swedish speakers live, well, I guess everyone who isn't blinded by silly nationalism can see the rationale for adding the Swedish names in brackets. JdeJ (talk) 02:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop with the false accusations and personal attacks: Wikipedia:Assume good faith. I fail to see what it gives to a English-speaking reader to know that "Espoo (SWEDISH: ESBO)" is correct? The reader can just click the article to see the secondary name. Same with Finnish names. Some users have messed up articles with that in the past  but the clear consencus is that they should not be added (guideline approved by Wikiproject Finland) --Pudeo⺮ 14:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Very bad comparison. Adding the names to articles or paragraphs where they lack relevance, such as in the example you gave, is quite different from mentioning them in a relevant context such as Jao did. JdeJ (talk) 16:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minority langauge names 

message: On what grounds are the minority languages chosen? They are now given as
:Sami, Romani, Finnish Sign Language, Russian, Estonian and Turkish.
The first three are official minority languages, Russian and Estonian are big immigrant languages, but Turkish? As the gap between Estonian and the next (English) is clearly bigger than the differences between the following languages it is natural to draw the line there, if there are no guidelines on the matter.
--LPfi (talk) 01:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Minority languages

message: The source for language proficiency gives four numbers of second languages: first, second and third second language and total. For Swedish the numbers are 8, 39, 13 and 41 % respectively. The three first sum up to 60 %, which was the number earlier used in the fact box and still in the text, the last number is what now is used in the fact box.
I do not understand how all four of these numbers could be true at the same time. If one tenth of respondents answered "Swedish" on both second and third language, then there was a severe problem with the questionnaire. I would rather think there was a typo in the total (which also seems quite strange).
Unless we find a good explanation on how the information (perhaps except some part of it) can be true, I think we have to regard the source as unreliable - which would be a shame. Suggestions?
--LPfi (talk) 07:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Which reference/source? I have been trying to find information on "native" multilingualism in this country, without luck. (Filadifei (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I talked about the EU PDF used as source for knowledge of second languages. There should be plenty of literature on native bilingualism (if not multilingualism, I think there is not yet much research on that) in Finland. In the Swedish schools in the Helsinki region and in Turku most pupils probably come from bilingual homes. Is there something special you are searching for? --LPfi (talk) 20:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I noted the same thing, the three tables sum up 60% but in the "total table" 41% is the figure given. Very strange imo. Aaker (talk) 20:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second languages 

message: It is not wise to endorse the Uralic language family. It has been attacked by User:Antifinnugor. As it is, the alleged affinity is said to be "distant".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.112.11.135 (talk) 10:46, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Finno-Ugric_languages#Denial.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.112.11.135 (talk) 11:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not wise 

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message: The article states English is spoken as a second language by most Finns.  Is this really correct?  It might well be their best language other than Finnish, but they have probably learnt English as a foreign language.  I doubt that English is a second language – sometimes abbreviated L2 – for more than a small minority in the country.  (The statement is sourced, but the source seems not to use the term second language.)  Fomalhaut76 (talk) 08:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right & WP:DOIT. Peltimikko (talk) 10:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  English a "second language"? 

message: According to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Charter_for_Regional_or_Minority_Languages#Languages_protected_under_the_Charter tatar is recognized as a minority language in Finland, isn't it? Shouldn't it be added as minority language here? 130.238.112.129 (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  tatar