Talk:Queen of Sheba

message: The Queen of Sheba, both as a historical person (possibly), and as a mythic figure, deserves a more grown-up entry. Wetman
The article implies information from the Bible, which it is not. Everything after the first sentence is legendary. Pollinator 12:29, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I redirected the Bilqis article to this one as the debate seemed to be dead.  I think it makes sense because Bilqis is referenced here. ka1iban 17:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that where that meaning comes from? It's surely wrong, then, since it is not Arabic in origin. I'll remove it now. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 17:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bilqis redirect 

message: The following sentence seems to be an add-on: "There has been evidence of Arab tribes in Arabia, not there has been no evidence of a Queen called Bilqis or any female ruler ever over Arab tribes of Arabia." This add-on is not grammatical, and it contradicts archaeological findings in Yemen. Indeed, we have proofs that the Axum (African, pre-Ethiopian) kingdom has extended into the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula for some time. Therefore, this sentence is confused (if not misleading) and should be deleted. Hugo Dufort 02:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Axum Kingdom and the Arabian Peninsula 

message: "According to the Jewish law, Sheba's name was ULTRAEXTREME70."  While this might be a great name, and I'll certainly considering giving it to any children I have, I don't think it's a correct translation from Hebrew.  Does anyone who knows better than me about a) the subject at hand, and b) Wikipedia (since this is my first post), care to correct it? 216.86.36.211 20:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire sentence is a piece of vandalism that was added two days ago and removed again within a few minutes.  You seem to be looking at an old version.  If you are new to wikipedia, all you have to do to get the current version is click the 'article' tab. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 23:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Best name ever? 

message: What is the point of the "Modern African Account" section of this article? Beside the fact that everything stated lacks citation, the paragraph not only fails to relate any modern African account but exists in parallel with the actual modern African account related under "Ethiopian and Eritrean Account" heading. I suggest that the information contained in this paragraph, if it be truly pertinant and accurate, be properly cited and placed under a relevent heading.--Jr mints 21:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Ethiopian account has citations in the beginning paragraph...to give the citations from Kebra Nagast would be usless unless you read GE'EZ (I still can't find a reputable translated version without speaking to the Ethiopian priests). There is always controversy among scholars when African (or any other people of color) history appear to contradict the myth of white supremacy and myth of the European involvement in the bible before the New Testament. It is not coincidental. Watch the history channel: Scottish, Irish, and Confederate (U.S.) ethnocentric zealots are treated as if they have delivered the gospel of their respective cultures and never contradicted despite being without proper citation. Many of the written references that the aforementioned groups cite are from ethnocentric sources or some form of undocumented oral lore that was formulated well after the historical events that they have professed to have occured. Yet scholars continue to discredit the Kebra Negast from a culture that has held documentation this history for more that 700 years...try 3000+ years and to this very day lives in a culture that is the most similar to the bibles description than any other!!! Somehow the history channel takes the Irish, Scots and Confederates at their word although the three cultures were not as proficient as the Ethiopians with written documentation or the oral tradition. Different rules apply for European ethnocentrics... I suppose. My citations will appear in a separate post although I doubt many of you etnocentrics will accept them..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.201.186 (talk • contribs) 
Also their language is most like the ancient language of the person in question lol  (Aramaic)  Allanana79 (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern African Account 

message: Queen Sheba or Sheba is not right. The Queen of Sheba is often called Sheba or Queen Sheba. Though the article title is Queen of Sheba, she is often referred to as Queen Shebaor Sheba in this article. Is this right? Thin Smek 00:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen Sheba: NO Queen of Sheba: YES 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Kebra Nagast.jpg

message: Didn't see a section to insert this nugget... "The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba" from Handel's oratorio Solomon is one of the best known instrumental pieces of the Baroque era.
Could this go here?  Or is it too trivial?DavidRF (talk) 02:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handel 

message: Citing to anything related to Velikovsky is not a way to produce reliable work.  You should take it out until you find a separate source for the info and then cite that.
4.249.3.239 (talk) 22:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Velikovsky 

message: this article has serious problems in differentiating between historical evidence and legend.  It needs a major rewrite.AMuseo (talk) 21:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reliability

message: This article needs information about the portrayal of the Queen more recently than the Renaissance, and also the various legends about her.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Portrayals 

message: Can someone clarify (and source) the reputed birthday of January 5?  She was born several centuries before introduction of the month of January into the Roman calendar, which probably didn't make it to that part of the world until much later anyway, so what does a it mean to say she was born on January 5?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.12.184.7 (talk) 17:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthday? 

message: The title of this section needs to be fixed. The Qur'an is not part of the Hebrew Bible (which is usually called the Torah or the Old Testament), nor is the New Testament, nor is Ethiopian legend. Either we need separate sections for all the different cultural/religious views, or we need a neutral title (such as Religious Mythological Accounts). Umm huraira (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The term "mythological" is highly contentious, and often seen as polemical POV according to numerous RSS.  It is best avoided in the name of neutrality.  What exactly do you mean to say by "mythological"?  Critics have enumerated at least 12 conflicting "definitions".  If you mean "false" or "fictional", you are expressing your own subjective POV about texts that other widespread POVs regard as factual. If you mean "a narrative to explain how the world was created", as wikipedia ostensibly has defined it, it doesn't fit this account. No two scholars seems to agree exactly which parts of whose sacred scriptures ought to be defined as "mythological".  The idea you expressed on my talk pages that ALL religion's scriptures are a priori the same thing as "mythology" is the POV expressed by certain Marxist-Leninist handbooks, not by a neutral encyclopedia.  For fairly obvious reasons, there is no consensus on wikipedia to go around to all Bible or Quran articles and label them with the POV title "mythology".  If you continue to make a mockery of WP:NPOV against consensus, this dispute is surely going to escalate. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 01:00, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  So what do you suggest I do? As it stands, this section has a hierarchy that lists the Qur'an and Ethiopian cultural accounts as being part of the Hebrew Bible. Do you not see an issue with that? I'm merely trying to pick an academic title that reflects the nature of all documents listed in this section. "Hebrew Bible" certainly fails in that regard. Mythological is the word of choice in social science academia here in America. Find another neutral term that doesn't suggest the superiority or inferiority of any religion/culture and we'll change it to that. Meanwhile, listing other texts underneath the heading of Hebrew Bible is offensive to the adherents of those religions/members of those cultures, so it is not satisfactory. If anything, it's an argument for Judaism as a superior religion. Umm huraira (talk) 17:43, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

text:  And I'm not making a "mockery" of WP:NPOV as it states specifically that "editors should not avoid using terminology that has been established by the majority of the current reliable and notable sources on a topic out of... concern that readers may confuse the formal and informal meanings." Frankly, I find it insulting that you claim to know exactly my intentions and what I'm thinking. Mockery never even entered my mind. For further evidence regarding the usage of mythology, see the page titled Christian mythology and note how it refers to hero myths. The Queen of Sheba is a part of the hero myth of Soloman. Umm huraira (talk) 18:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrew biblical accounts 

message: There's an Ethiopian Alexander romance. Dougweller (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I had never read it, but I looked it up and am reading Budge's translation online now. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 18:06, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopian legends about Alexander 

message: There is a serious discrepancy in the dates of either King Salomon's time or that of Queen of Sheba. According to another article "The conventional dates of Salomon's reign are from circa 970 to 931 BC" So how did the two meet in 10 BC is quite mind boggling.I have searched all over en.Wikipedia and internet but do not find any amicable date to see how they met. Only one fact does remain and undisputed from accounts in Genesis to Quaran that they did meet.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎AwesomeDIY (talk • contribs) 
:I moved this from the article as it belongs here. Do you mean 10th century? 970 is in the 10th century. I removed January 5 as I couldn't find any suggestion of that date. Dougweller (talk) 05:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sheba & Solomon, text moved from article 

message: we know that she was queen of a land called sheba(ethiopia). but her name was makeda. it would be correct if it's written in the article.89.205.2.29 (talk) 13:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: makeda

message: Some of the text was quite incoherent. At least one passage was also original research, misattributed to one Steven L. Danver (ed.) . Middayexpress (talk) 18:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I am happy about improvements to my wording, however the article should include the rastafari movement and more current political content. Danver is not misinterprted, I provided page entries and the story is neither controversial nor fringy. Serten (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the original traditional Ethiopian depiction of Makeda/Sheba to the relevant section; image(s) of Beta Israel individuals are WP:OFFTOPIC. A more neutral image or no image at all should go at the top given the dispute above about Sheba's identity. Regarding Rastafari material on Sheba, it can be represented but in its own section as it has nothing to do with traditional Ethiopian beliefs on Sheba. Also, the material attributed to the Steven L. Danver (ed.) book is original research since it is not indicated on the cited pages 10-13 . Middayexpress (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I do not agree with the changes. Danver is quoted correctly, I checked in google books. Pnina Tamano-Shata is not "any" beta, but a moP often named as for the Sheba role model and much better as the nazarene campy figure before. Last the rastafari and afrocentric studies material is in the narratives, not ethiopian section and right there. Serten (talk) 17:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Danver is evidently not correctly represented. Here is a pdf of his book and nowhere does he mention anything about Sheba and Rastafarianism, let alone on pages 10-13. It also makes no difference who the Beta Israel MP is. That is not the topic of the article; the mythical Queen of Sheba is. Per WP:OI, the original research policy applies to images and their captions as well, not just to text. I'm not sure what makes you believe that the Makeda/Sheba painting is Nazarene, but I've removed it for the sake of argument. I've also fixed the foregoing again and neutralized the image at the top and the original research in the lede. Please do not re-insert this without prior discussion and agreement. Middayexpress (talk) 18:28, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I receive a malware warining with that sort of pdf. Danver is quite outspoken in his book, but I think I got your point now and corrected it. The afrocentrism / black athena issue is selv evident but has more sopurces now. The narrative respeczivel the role model issue is important. I dont get why you erased the lede picture as well, its not neutral, but erased. Serten (talk) 19:43, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I already explained that a more neutral image or no image at all should go at the top given the dispute above about Sheba's identity. That said, the pdf link is certainly not malware. I'll reupload it shortly on a free server to demonstrate once and for all that Danver does not indicate this anywhere. Middayexpress (talk) 20:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Middayexpress, I dont need an upload, as I think we had a misunderstanding. For me the reference to afrocentrism and rastas are selfexplaining, now we have a separate source for that. I think that case is closed. With regard to the pic in the lede, I am not sure why The Queen should not have a pic in the entry. Waht would you reagrd as a "neutral" pic? Is it about her black or whiteness? I suggest to use Berta Golahnys sculpture with an hint on the controversy. Regards Serten (talk) 22:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid not. The material attributed to the Danver book is original research since he doesn't appear to say anything of the sort. As promised, I've re-uploaded a copy of his actual book on this other server. It can no longer be claimed that one isn't aware of this because of malware or whatever since the book is now available for verification on two separate servers. Similarly, as can be seen here, the Conyers Jr. and McFarland book does not indicate that "Afrocentrism applied as well an image of a people being chosen and prefered on black respectively African people and included the Queen in their realm". That wikitext also makes no sense and no page number from the book was provided to support this incoherent claim. Additionally, I already explained above that the Ethiopian Sheba tradition has nothing to do with the newfangled Afrocentric one. For starters, the Ethiopian tradition is several centuries old and, though essentially legendary, is based on actual historic relations with the Levant, not on modern Afrocentric notions of who Sheba was. Lastly, I already explained above that per WP:OI, one cannot add original research captions to images. Given this, I've also removed the claim regarding Golhany's portrait of Sheba. Additionally, I've contacted a regular on the Africa WikiProject for input and to see whether he too has problems accessing the Danver link due to malware. Middayexpress (talk) 15:58, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, you misunderstood the edit. I have used McFarland book to indicate that Ethiopian people used e.g. the Kebra Nagast to claim possession of the Ark of the Covenant respectively to have replaced the Beta Israel and the Israelites in general as chosen people. I havent assumed that the rastas and "Afrocentrism applied as well an image of a people being chosen and prefered on black respectively African people and included the Queen in their realm" needs any sourcing, itsevident. but I provided that as well. Chanting Down Babylon: The Rastafari Reader, Nathaniel Samuel Murrell, William David Spencer, Adrian Anthony McFarlane, Temple University Press, 01.01.1998  AfrocentrismAfrocentricity and the Academy: Essays on Theory and Practice, James L. Conyers, Jr. (ed.)McFarland, 19.05.2003  Insoafr I would prefer to have the imprved version restored. Again, would you be please so kind to answer my questions? Serten (talk) 17:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

text:  Sorry, Afrocentrism is just a branch of science, which of cause uses and deals as well with the Sheba legend. Serten (talk) 00:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sheba

message: El Cazangero, you have made some controversial edits ("Chatter..") and reverted my revert with the notion "Talk". I would highly prefer you came up with better reasons for that and if you ask for using the talk page, then do so yourself. As long as you don't provide any valid reason, I tend to ignore and restore, but lets see what you have to say. Serten (talk) 04:27, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: ??? Serten (talk) 07:03, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chatterbox 

message: FWIW, the reasons for my revert are: 1) Many stylistic errors, typos and chatty language, as well as distortion of sources by paraphrasing them wrongly and badly, all being justified with "somebody else's copyright". 2) Far-off and weak sources, probably substituted for the real (and good) ones. 3) Pseudo-politically-correct suppression of the referenced term Falashas, without any objectively derogatory meaning. 4) Persistent imputing of a legendary (and ultimately racist) image of "blackness" to the Queen of Sheba, based on Senghor. That image probably originated sometime in the Middle Age, due to European Christian fantasies of the "exotic orient", possibly corroborated with a reference to a black (?) person mentioned in the Song of Songs. Another possibility is her allegedly Ethiopian provenance, but contrary to her depiction in the Ethiopian fresco showed in the article. The Russian Wikipedia article mentions it via Origen, but as a primary source. This may be pursued further, .... In general, the color of the Queen of Sheba's skin is unimportant in the many reputable sources provided so far .... --El Cazangero (talk) 10:48, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Try to start editing without offending those that do not share youre points. Calling Senghor a racist and Falasha non derogatory, is sort of fringy, erasing them based on a I-dont't-like-it perspective rather silly. Reverted. Serten (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

text: This is a start. But the matter of how far to mention the theory of her having been black needs to be further discussed, as does the use of "falasha", which is a loaded term in the present day. The need to avoid copyvio is non-negotiable. What specific passages do you think are badly paraphrased, and what wording would you recommend, perhaps a short quotation or two? "Many stylistic errors, typos and chatty language" requires specifics: please give examples. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:46, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

text: Those are some valid points, particularly where you appear to suggest (if I understood you correctly) that Senghor's rendering of the Queen of Sheba is not the same as the traditional Ethiopian rendering. Indeed, the traditional Ethiopian depiction of the legendary Queen is centuries older and not hugely different from that adhered to elsewhere (that one Czech mural notwithstanding). The prose and formatting could also certainly use improvement. That said, Serten has made a good faith effort, but I think there may at times be a bit of a language barrier (English may not be his first for even second language). Another thing for all to remember is to avoid any pejorative WP:LABELs, and especially to keep the focus on the Queen herself. Like all legendary figures, there are countless, and often quite weird theories on her, so it's important to avoid any fringy material. This can perhaps best be assured by relying as much as possible on the Classics and historical works. Middayexpress (talk) 18:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: At the risk of being repetitive, copyvio is a red line you can't cross, and text based on sources must clearly be in your own words. Of course sources shouldn't be distorted, but there is no justifiction for violating our copyright policy and that has been made clear enough to El Cazengero in the past. I'll also point out that we prefer secondary sources - in this case normally academic ones, to tertiary sources, ie encylopedias.Dougweller (talk) 18:48, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. I wasn't aware that there was a copyright issue with his/her edit. Core policies should definitely be adhered to. Academic sources are indeed also best, particularly within the relevant Middle Eastern studies and Classics field. Middayexpress (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

text:  Senghor and other current use are of importance for the overview on the narrative, I dont give much about DWEM. One might discuss the Black Egyptian hypothesis, but with regard to the Queen of Sheba, of cause she was most probably black - in nowadays terms - but these terms were different bevore the rather modern invention of racism. The S of S "I am black but comely" may refer as well to a tan of a lower social class, as in German "schwarzbraun". Serten (talk) 20:39, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I had to revert El Cazangero again, manually this time. Better actually start discussing - your edit comments don't signify any increased level of cooperation.  Serten II (talk) 22:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ongoing ...

message: I came to this article because of a paragraph in African Myths by Gary Jeffrey book published by Rosen Publishing. Wikipedia article mentions "rumour that the Queen has hairy legs and the foot of an ass". The paragraph (on page 45) in the Gary Jeffrey book says Sheba (aka Makeda) was "A historical figure who also appears in Ethiopian myths, and in Christian and Islamic Stories. Shea ... was to be sacificed to the serpent-king, Arwe. Arwe is killed but as he dies, a drop of his blood falls onto Makeda's foot and changes it into a donkey's hoof. ..." 
Another book The Queen of Sheba: Legend, Literature and Lore seems to have more details on page 162: "... By contrast, Ethiopian legend states her deformity was incurred by her by her being bitten by her pet jackal, and Eritreans say her foot became malformed as a donkey's hoof when dragon blood dropped on her flesh. ..."
Would it be ok to add (to the Wikipedia aricle) more detail about this mythology about Sheba? --EarthFurst (talk) 22:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  mythology of Sheba's donkey foot 

message: Are the editors sure they want to use fertile in "fertile cycles of legends"??? How about "many legends have arisen over the years."(PeacePeace (talk) 06:04, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  fertile cycles of legends 

message: The term "orient" is deprecated jargon. -Inowen (talk) 01:32, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orient

message: Well since I am a Muslim I see that the presentation of the Queen of Saba' in the section of "Muslim traditional" isn't completed and not the full story and how she converted as its mentioned in Surat An-Naml https://quran.com/27
as there is no mentioning of the Hoopoe story
SharabSalam (talk) 15:17, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her story isn't completed  

message: This sentence
 has an error but I cant fix it because the source that is given is offline and I can't check it. The true one that I found in Arabic books says he gave her marriage to a king of Hamdan(In the narratives its called Qel which has similar meaning to Sheikh). According to traditions his name was (Tha Tuba) thats his name not his title it is somehow linked to Tubba of Himyar in this article and thats cant be true because Tubba kings came at the time of the second himyarite kingdom and thats too late. ِAlso Hamdan cant be part of Himyar  it is a Sabaean tribe. So if someone has access to the offline reference that is given please tell us what it really says. Also this not related to Islam(another mistake) but to Arab traditional. I dont know why its under Islam section. IMO the only thing that section should contain is things that are related to Islam like Hadith or Quran. Also since there is a section called Ethiopian I think its okay to make a section called Arabs. I somehow understand why some people cant distinguish between Arab tradition and Islamic belief but this is not an excuse--SharabSalam (talk) 07:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes 

message: I know I am always in the talk page of this article but few times I make edits in here. I want to start a saperated article about Balqis(Queen of Sheba) but like in the Arab-Islamic tradition. I don't know what would it's name be. "Queen of Sheba in Arab tradition"?--SharabSalam (talk) 17:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay I have decided, "Queen of Sheba in the Yemeni folklore" or something like that. There are lots and lots of details from the Yemeni folklore that are missed from this article like her early life, how she became the Queen etc. I will mainly use an old famous book written by Wahb ibn Munabbih called "al-Tigan fi Mulook Ḥimyar".--SharabSalam (talk) 10:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, SharabSalam, I think that that is a great idea, and will definitely add to the scope of this article. A separate article treating on the Arab tradition surrounding the Queen of Sheba (Malkat Seba` = ملكة سباء) would be welcome here. When I was in Yemen, I often heard talk about the famous queen named Bilqis. Historically speaking, though, there are divergent views as to when this queen actually lived in Yemen, which may actually be the result of embellished traditions surrounding one or several women by the same name. At any rate, from a pure historical-geographical point of view, the ancient kingdom of Sheba (Arabic: سباء) is said to have been in Ma'rib, where the Marib Dam is now located.Davidbena (talk) 12:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Working on it.-SharabSalam (talk) 22:04, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arab tradition 

message: Per WP:CATV Categorization of articles must be verifiable. It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories. The article does not source the claim that the Queen of Sheba is any kind of saint. Therefore the categories Muslim female saints, Muslim female saints from the Old Testament have been removed. Per WP:CATDEF A central concept used in categorizing articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having". It is not a defining characteristic of the Queen of Sheba that she is an "Islamic figure" so this category has also been removed.Smeat75 (talk) 00:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of unverified categories 

message: Unraveling the Mystery of Queen Saba: A Closer Look at Psalms 72
Psalms 72, a poetic and symbolic text in the biblical Book of Psalms, has long captivated scholars and enthusiasts alike with its enigmatic references to various nations and individuals, including the Sabian, Arabian, and Ethiopian. Among these figures, one character stands out prominently: Queen Saba, whose origins and identity have sparked fervent debate and speculation throughout history.
In Psalms 72, the Sabian, Arabian, and Ethiopian are described separately and independently, igniting curiosity about the true lineage and background of Queen Saba. While some interpretations view these descriptions as referring to distinct geographical regions or ethnic groups, others delve into the realm of myth and legend, portraying Queen Saba as an otherworldly being—a figure of mystery and wonder.
One intriguing interpretation posits Queen Saba as an alien entity, a being who transcends conventional human understanding. According to this perspective, Queen Saba is depicted as half-human, half-faun—a hybrid creature embodying elements of both humanity and the supernatural. Such interpretations draw parallels with ancient mythologies and folklore, where beings of divine or extraterrestrial origin often interacted with mortal realms.
Furthermore, the question of Queen Saba's true homeland adds another layer of intrigue to the narrative. While present-day Eritrea and Ethiopia are both plausible candidates for the location of Queen Saba's kingdom, proponents of each region passionately advocate for their respective claims. Despite the lack of conclusive historical evidence, the debate continues to fuel scholarly discourse and popular imagination.
In considering the possible origins of Queen Saba, I am inclined to align with the belief that her kingdom likely resided in Eritrea. This assertion is based on a combination of historical context, cultural heritage, and geographical factors. Eritrea's rich history, marked by its ancient civilizations and strategic location along the Red Sea coast, provides a compelling backdrop for the legendary reign of Queen Saba. Moreover, Eritrea's cultural ties to ancient Ethiopia, coupled with its distinct identity and traditions, underscore its potential connection to the enigmatic queen.
However, it is essential to acknowledge that the true identity of Queen Saba may forever remain shrouded in mystery and interpretation. As with many figures of antiquity, her legacy transcends historical fact, weaving a tapestry of myth and symbolism that continues to inspire fascination and inquiry.
In conclusion, Psalm 72 offers a tantalizing glimpse into the world of Queen Saba—a figure whose origins and identity defy easy categorization. Whether viewed as a mortal monarch, a celestial being, or a mythical archetype, Queen Saba remains an enduring symbol of power, wisdom, and enigma. As we continue to explore the depths of scripture and legend, the mystery of Queen Saba will undoubtedly endure, captivating hearts and minds for generations to come. 82.139.134.200 (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen Sheba Myth and Orgin 

message: I'm confused by this sentence:
"Since there is no mention of the Fall of Babylon in 539 BC, Martin Noth has held that the Book of Kings received a definitive redaction around 550 BC."
No document existing in 550 BC would have mentioned something happening in 539 BC, since 539 BC is 11 years after 550 BC. So how is that an indication that something was redacted? Caseyroberson (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase means that there were no significant changes in the Book of Kings after 550 BCE, which would explain why there were no mentions of the Fall of Babylon. Dimadick (talk) 16:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. The sentence still isn't 100% clear that that's what it means. A "definitive redaction" indicates to me only that it was the last redaction, not the last change. Caseyroberson (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  BC years go in reverse, right?