Talk:World's fair

message: I've heard that, starting in Expo 98, Lisbon, the distintion between Universal and International was abolished. That is the reason Expo 98 was called World Exhibition and lasted for 4 months (between the 3 months of international expos and 6 of universal). That's the reason Expo '98 and Expo 2000 had the same status. Someone can add something on this subject? User:Marco Neves
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Marco Neves: 
Since the creation of the Convention relating to International Exhibitions in 1928 (in force January 17, 1931), there have been three different frameworks for categories of International Exhibitions.
1) The original text of the Convention established three categories: a) General exhibition of first category, b) General exhibition of second category, and c) Specialized exhibition. This categorization remained in force until the ammendment of November 30, 1972.
2) The 1972 ammendment (in force June 9, 1980) revoked the previous categories and established a new framework: a) Universal exhibition, and b) Specialized exhibition.
3) In May 31, 1988, a new ammendment (in force July 19, 1996) abrogated the 1972 categorization, and brought about two new categories: a) Registered exhibition, and b) Recognized exhibition.
Some people believe that the Registered and Recognized categories started from Expo’98 Lisbon; however, the candidacies for Expo’98 Lisbon and Expo 2000 Hannover were framed and voted before the 1988 ammendment came into force (July 19, 1996). Expo 2005 Aichi, although voted in June 1997, had its candidacy framed under the 1972 ammendment.
Therefore, Expo’98 Lisbon and Expo 2005 Aichi were Specialized Exhibitions, while Expo 2000 Hannover was a Universal Exhibition. Expo 2008 Zaragoza will be the first recognized exhibition, and Expo 2010 Shanghai the first registered exhibition.
Regarding the four-month duration of Expo’98 Lisbon, the Convention, as ammended in 1972, established a duration between three weeks and six months for International Exhibitions (that includes both Universal and Specialized). The limitation of three months for recognized expositions was included until the ammendment of 1988. Therefore, under the regulation in force at the time of its cancidacy, Expo’98 Lisbon was free to choose any duration between three weeks and six months. In fact, Expo 2000 Hannover chose to have a five-month duration.
For more on regulation: “Les Expositions Internationales relevant du Bureau International des Expositions”, at http://ensmp.net/pdf/2001/expositions.pdf (text in French)
For categories of each International Exhibition: Exhibitions information, at http://www.bie-paris.org/main/index.php?m=-1 (on the left frame, click on Exhibitions information)
I hope you find this information useful.
--César Corona 01:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other sites seem to suggest '29 is correct. dml 03:08, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

text: This article feels disorganized to me.  I think it would help if there was a chronological list or table of all the fairs or something. --65.40.53.88 01:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk of 2004 and older 

message: The German version says there was an exposition planned there for 2004 but it was canceled? Why? ROGNNTUDJUU! 13:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Seine-Saint-Denis]] 

message: It seems like it would make more sense for the list of expos to link to their respective expo article in wikipedia rather than just the hosting city's article.  If a user really wants to visit the city article, it is easy to navigate to it.  Having the expo links in the paragraph above makes the article a little cluttered and hard to use, IMHO. Ekimd 15:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Expos

message: Because these events have been occuring for over 100 years, the years of fairs should be four digit rather than two. Despite the fact that one could probably look at the list and compare cities and dates to know when exactly a fair occured, it would be easiest for all the dates on this page to be converted to four digit dates. User:200.116.157.78 18:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

message: i posted a question on yahoo answers, and was refered to this site for the information that was provided. It was stated here that the World's Fair was stopped in 1984 due to Congress not paying money to have it here again after that. Does anyone know how we can get then to pay it again so we can take our children to such a great event without leaving the country? I went to the World's Fair in 1982 and i was only 6, but i remember it and it was AWSOME! I would love to take my grand-daughter and kids to one! It would be well worth saving up for! Please email me back at (email address removed)
:First: I've removed your email address so it won't get spam harvested.
:Second: Wikipedia is an attempt to write an encyclopedia, not for political advocacy. SchmuckyTheCat 07:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's time for Wikipedia to change. True, it's an encyclopedia, but it can be much more than that. I want to see Wikipedia encorporate a forum of some kind where discussions like this can take place. We meed a place to take discussions. Wikipedia? Are you listening?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.35.97 (talk) 04:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipemedia has many projects.  The encyclopedia is merely the largest and most interesting.  I figure chat pages and blogs are numerous outside Wikimedia and you could find appropriate ones after diligent searching.  If not, you can try using your personal Wikipedia talk page.  Jim.henderson (talk) 01:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I shouldn't have to search for a chat forum. It should be an integrated part of Wikipedia. Farm it out if necessary. There should be ONE place where people can comment on Wikiipedia pages. One place to discuss ANYTHING AT ALL related to the subject at hand.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.35.97 (talk) 07:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How can we get the World's Fair back in the United States? 

message: ... is the official title, should the article be under that heading? Hakluyt bean 14:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved. --Nyp 05:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Expo 

message: The external links section was getting a bit unwieldy so I took an axe to it.  We have individual articles on most Fairs and I think links about specific fairs should go on those daughter articles rather than here.  It doesn't seem to me that links to bid sites are appropriate here at all.  I left in three links that cover World Fairs in general, but I'm not sure they should all stay. They are: 
1) Donald G. Larson Collection on International Expositions and Fairs, 1851-1940
:I think this one should stay.  It looks good with lots of information that we don't necessarily have.  It's from what looks to me like a reputable publisher.
2) ExpoMuseum, an online world's fair museum 
:Not much detail on the individual fairs that we don't already cover and nothing really about the subject as a whole, but some of them have significant photo galleries.  I would prefer to see links to open licensed photos, but in their absence this might be good.  Publisher seems to be an enthusiast rather than a person or institution with academic or professional resources for fact checking etc. but it also seems to be well written and popular (if the website figures are to be taken at face value).  I'm on the fence with this one myself.
3) "A lot of World's Fairs presented by a lot of photographs"
:I think this one ought to go.  It only covers a few of the fairs, there are no details that Wikipedia doesn't already cover, it's not written that well (seems like the writer's first language isn't English, though their attempt is far better than my German would be).  Seems to be published by an individual who is a web consultant.  I also don't see the "lot of photographs" that the description claims.
If I don't get any objections I'll remove number 3 tomorrow.  Comments on these or any of the links I removed are welcome and encouraged.  -- SiobhanHansa 15:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The article shows an Expo in Seattle in 1960 as well as one in 1962. I do not think this is correct, and the 1960 one should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tclose (talk • contribs) 14:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expo in Seattle in 1960?? 

message: As per the first paragraph: WYD (World Youth Day), a gathering of Catholic Youth, is actually the largest event in the world.  I think this puts Expo as fourth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.60.25 (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WYD is actually the largest event 

message: This article is written almost entirely from the perspective of the Bureau of International Expositions.  It needs to be rewritten, covering the topic in general at first, then introducing separate sections for BIE-sanctioned expositions and those held independently or under the auspices of another organization.  68.167.253.69 (talk) 05:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing information

message: The main article does not list Nashville, Tennessee as an expo location for 1897, but further down in the article it talks about the Nashville Parthenon and Centennial Park having been constructed on the 1897 World's Fair site.  The entry article for the Tennessee Centennial Exposition doesn't speak of it in terms of it being a "World's Fair", either, but then at the end of that article it talks about the Tennessee expo as being more successful (financially) than most World's Fairs.  So, what's the deal?  Was Nashville 1897 a World's Fair or wasn't it?  I live in Tennessee and I had always thought that the Parthenon was built on the World's Fair site that coincided with the Centennial celebration, but now I'm confused as to whether the Tennessee Centennial Exposition was actually a World's Fair or not.  67.232.92.189 (talk) 04:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nashville, Tennessee 1897--World's Fair? 

message: This page should be protected because of the Google doodle. Pm master 04:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks for figuring out *why* also...it popped up on my vandalism radar and I didn't see any obvious trigger:) DMacks (talk) 09:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please protect this page 

message: Has anyone ever considered the possibility of jointly awarding a World's Fair and Olympics (Summer or Winter) to the same city at the same time - as a combined event?74.100.60.53 (talk)
:Nevermind - it apprears that already happened in 1904 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics74.100.60.53 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combined World's Fair/Olympics 

message: The lead paragraph currently concludes with the following: "In Acapulco, New Spain (Mexico), annual fairs took place for several centuries where countries from Asia exhibited their products brought to the New World by the Spanish Royal Navy Nao de China."
Is this true? I can't find any mention of it in the articles on Acapulco or Nao de China (Manila galleons) nor by doing a web search. (The statement certainly sounds plausible. The galleons ran only once or twice a year so one would expect a celebration upon their arrival.)
If true, the celebration doesn't sound like a world's fair as this article defines it. But it is noteworthy (for a historian) and certainly deserves some elaboration somewhere.
If true and appropriate for this article, does this belong in the lead? There is no further mention of this in the rest of the article.
Frappyjohn (talk) 19:42, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questioning the centuries of Acapulco world's fairs 

message: Capitilize "fair" in "World's fair." It's the TITLE! It looks very unprofessional not to capitilize it. Seriously that's ridiculous!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.46.63 (talk) 03:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The casing is pretty atrocious throughout the article. Unless the text refers to a specific world fair/expo/etc., I think all the words should be in lower case. I will work on that. Joe SchmedleyTalk 00:06, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalization

message: World's Fairs on the Eve of War: Science, Technology, and Modernity, 1937-1942 by Robert H. Kargon and others, 2015, University of Pittsburgh Press. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 13:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  For expanding Cultural exchange (1939–1987), this looks relevant 

message: My Sources
The 1904 St Louis World's fair had an exhibit section but it was barely a paragraph. So I found an article celebrating 100 years since the expo took place and they debuted baby incubators and an electric typewriter! The citation is below. 
X-rays, 'fax machines' and ice cream cones debut at 1904 ... (2004, April 7). Retrieved October 21, 2016, from https://source.wustl.edu/2004/04/xrays-fax-machines-and-ice-cream-cones-debut-at-1904-world-fair/
The 1939 New York World's Fair had absolutely no section on the attractions it had so I found this newspaper article on the cooler attractions they had. The had a smoking robot! Anyway below is the citation. 
Blakinger, K. (n.d.). A look back at some of the attractions at the 1939 World’s ... Retrieved October 21, 2016, from http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/back-attractions-1939-world-fair-article-1.2619155
Katie’s Sources 
Possible Sources for all fairs:
•	Inventions that Defined the 20th Century – this is from a 2010 publication called “World Expo” that has a bunch of potentially useful articles (MSU Libraries website)
•	http://www.expomuseum.com/
•	http://www.earthstation9.com/ 
1964 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_New_York_World%27s_Fair#American_industry_in_the_spotlight
•	an example of what we can to with the invention section
1876 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Exposition#Inventions
•	Has a brief invention section but we could expand it
•	Telephone, monorail, calculator
•	Possible sources:
o	The World’s Fair, Philadelphia, 1876: A Critical Account. (book- full text online @ MSU Libraries website)
o	Material Worlds: Designing the Centennial: A History of the 1876 International Exhibition in Philadelphia. (book- full text online @ MSU Libraries website)
o	Re-Envisioning the 1876 Centennial Exhibition: New Exhibit Solutions for an Old Interpretive Problem. (thesis paper available online MSU libraries) 
1901 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-American_Exposition
•	X-Ray machine, sewing machine?
•	Possible sources:
o	http://panam1901.org/index.html
o	http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/spec/exhibits/fairs/pan.htm
1904 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase_Exposition
•	Early fax machine, answering machine, electrical outlet, air conditioning
•	Possible sources:
o	http://www.1904worldsfairsociety.org/links.htm
o	http://atthefair.homestead.com/Misc/Inventions.html
1970 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expo_%2770
•	IMAX, mobile phones, local networking
•	Possible sources:
o	http://www.earthstation9.com/index.html?1970_osa.htm
o	Struggling with finding sources on this one. Maybe need to tackle by researching the inventions themselves rather than the Fair.
1982 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_World%27s_Fair#After_the_fair
•	Solar wireless public telephones, touchscreens (debut), Japanese painting robots, robots in the “live energy show,” home energy conservation, electric cars
•	Possible sources:
o	http://www.expomuseum.com/1982/
o	Government report: United States Pavilion at the Knoxville International Energy Exposition: Final Report, 1982. (full text online @ MSU Libraries website)
o	Article: World’s Fair spreads understanding of energy technology, foreign cultures, 1982. (full text online @ MSU Libraries website)
Emma’s Sources
http://go.galegroup.com.proxy1.cl.msu.edu/ps/pdfViewer?docId=GALE%7CCX2735802999&userGroupName=msu_main&inPS=true&contentSegment=&prodId=GVRL&navContext=none&accesslevel=FULLTEXT&c2c=true#docViewNav
 http://congressional.proquest.com.proxy2.cl.msu.edu/congressional/result/congressional/pqpdocumentview:pdfevent?pgId=e4e18ad7-8f07-41e8-a4f4-7ee78f396956&pdf=/app-bin/gis-serialset/7/4/f/8/2807_hrp37_from_1_to_2.pdf, -It's an online text about the location of the St. Louis World's Fair which did not occur until 1904 but this was written in 1892. It was sent to the selection committee which I thought was really interesting and we could incorporate how these were made or what went into deciding each? 
JKNobles (talk) 02:39, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: An IP user recently added the 1884 New Orleans fair to the list of world expositions. The list is supposed to show official expositions according to the BIE. I have just looked at the BIE website, and the 1884 fair is not listed as a world expo. In fact, it isn't listed as a specialized expo, either. I'm going to cut it from the list and put it here below (inside HTML comment tags to prevent unintended effects on this page). So, if I'm in error, you can just cut it from here and put it back there. But I doubt I'm in error. The List of All Expos at the official BIE site has nothing between 1880 Melbourne and 1888 Barcelona.
Open the Edit on this page to see this data:
PaulSank (talk) 05:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error Spotted 

message: An improbable number of nostrums and liqueurs claim- on Wikipedia and elsewhere- to have been awarded medals at various exhibitions. Has anybody ever determined what was actually awarded, and on what grounds? MarkMLl (talk) 21:26, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Awarded a ... medal at ... World Fair" 

message: Why on the list there is 1939 New York World's Fair but not 1964 New York World's Fair? Subtropical-man (✉ | en-2) 15:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: New York, '64-'65 wasn't recognized by BIE. philmckn (talk) 14:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

text: This is the list you're looking for... List of World's Fairs philmckn (talk) 15:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

text: That seems like POV-pushing to me- not to say that I disagree with you on the basis of opinion, I'm not informed enough on the subject to have an opinion one way or the other (and the idea that World's Fairs could cause economic/environmental/etc problems doesn't seem unbelievable), but that's not the sort of subject that a Wikipedia article should unilaterally have an absolute factual stance on. Rather, when it comes to those types of criticisms, Wikipedia articles instead describe the opinions of notable individuals, subject-matter experts, non-governmental organizations, and national or international bodies. For example, instead of an section on "Problems with the Olympics", we have an section on Controversies surrounding the Olympic Games, with due weight assigning more significance to those criticisms and controversies with broader scholarly consensus supporting them. 73.161.63.150 (talk) 00:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York World's Fair 

message: "The Azerbaijani capital entered its candidacy before the deadline" seems strange to me.
Why emphasize this point?
The other three candidates surely also met the deadline?
I would just write "The Azerbaijani capital entered its candidacy under ..." Alexander.mitsos (talk) 09:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current and upcoming expositions