Talk:Liquid and digits

message: I feel that the difference between liquid and lightshows should be addressed. The two have diverged to the point that they are significantly different. By giving a light show you have one (possibly more) person very close to the area your hands will be. It is a very close up and somewhat personal event meant to fill that persons entire field of vision. There are entire websites and vendors dedicated to providing items for people who practice lightshows and the lights are no longer just "keychains" as mentioned in the article. I could go on but I'm sure someone else who knows of what I speak will eventually chime in :) Ciper (talk) 21:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: LightShows

message: From these discussions I've realized that, while I've seen no cleancut reasoning why these dances are fundamentally different (again: the dances, judged by themselves) I've understood that the origins part is an extremely touchy subject. As with other underground culture there is really few or no reputable sources, so it's all about the consensus (what?) of the editors. Staying away from opinions or POVs for just once, this is what I would like this article to include:
*A comprehensive list of moves/techniques giving as good idea of what liquiding looks like as you could get from a text
*A well-written section on the origins, including the controversy about being/not being an extension of popping
*Stemming from above, the relevant characteristics of liquid dancing that separates it from popping (and, eventually, the same in the Popping article) Liquid/stiff is a good start but then we know they are both sides of popping, so, more is needed
*Some good outboard links to video clips and guides for learning liquiding
*Pictures!
Arru 00:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving on

message: I dance alot at "raves" and clubs, and I can safely say that they are complete antonyms.  Popping is a form that is more linear and less free-flowing.  Liquid however, is the exact opposite.  The object of liquid is to flow around and NEVER pop or lock.  Combining Popping (dance) with Liquid...is absurd, and if the page "Liquid" takes up too much space on the server (what?) and MUST be combined, you might as well combine them all and put them under dance.  It'd be like mixing country and rock.  Drums and guitars.  It's simply different, and would be taking a step back in knowledge (to the unaware) if combined.
Also, I would like to add that "Liquid" dancing has a single "move" called the "figure-8".  Popping however has many moves that have names and learning curves.  As I stated, I do dance at these parties, and I liquid.  I know how to "b-boy" and pop locks, but it simply doesn't flow enough for the high bpms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eightbitpotion (talk • contribs) 
* I do dance a lot with dancers who do liquid, popping or both. While I do take your concern seriously, calling liq and pop antonyms is close to ridiculous IMO. All dancers I have met agree that liquid and popping are basically variations of the same thing. Unfortunately like most discussions above, making these statements will get us nowhere without sources or other kinds of verifiable facts. Arru 16:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antonyms? 

message: Do the various techniques and styles really need to be subheadings with their own section listing in the TOC?  A subheading is generally used only when there's a narrative section that contain two or more paras (or maybe one lengthy para).  These seem like a list.  Thoughts? Bookgrrl 18:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought about this a lot when working on the popping article. I ended up using definition lists, which I think works best for this type of listing. Check out the popping article to see it in action. - Wintran (talk) 22:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Techniques and styles 

message: This Line should be Deleted:
This difference in focus is what makes liquiding better suited for fast-paced trance music and popping for the more distinct rhythms of, for example, electrofunk.
This is an OPINION, not fact. I am a dancer who practices Liquid and I mostly dance to Electro. I DO NOT LIKE TRANCE. I have been liquid dancing for 13 years and I have NEVER thought trance was the best music for liquiding. It's always been a cross between acid techno, acid house, techno bass, and electro for me. A lot of new school electrofunk is GREAT for liquiding.
I know Tiny Love and I have seen many video clips of him Liquiding to electrofunk. I'll dig them up and post links if anyone has doubts about this.
Starriebird 01:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I think UK Bassline and Dubstep would be worth a mention, I've also witnessed by personal account a blend of tecktonik and liquiding.
Trance appears to be perfectly in time with popping, musically (as is techno, house, electro, garage, speed garage, bassline, dubstep, IDM/Glitch, drum n bass, and even hip/electro hop). In retrospective, people online have been asking if 'Liquid Funk' is something to do with L&D. I don't feel it is, I may be wrong, it's certainly danceable.
But like you pointed out as a dancer, you dislike Trance as your own personal tastes. This can be a sticky issue on sites like Wikipedia, since urban vernacular dances (such as club, rave and street styles) all evolved outside of dance studios, therefore there is no 'governing authority' of decision in this. Which is probably why this should either be skipped from use in the article, unchanged, or left to reference of third-parties. Like you said, you provided opinion, not fact. I must also point out liquiding, railing and digits do not work as well with certain genres (due to their speed, not beat), respectively. However, such a fact needs a citation, of course. FireWolf Flux (talk) 02:50, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liquiding is not necessarily better suited for fast paced "Trance Music". This is an opinion! 

message: removed decade name apostrophes per Basic_copyediting --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:49, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  decade apostrophe removal 

message: There does not appear to be any reliable sources backing up this article, and most references are youtube videos and blogs. It seems like a candidate for deletion unless it can be improved. 79616gr (talk) 06:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  References