Talk:Western Marxism

message: Perry Anderson in Considerations on Western Marxism characterises it as basically the academic marxism that grew up between the wars at some distance from classical, orthodox Marxism - obsessed by philosophy, particularly epistemology, and language - ie topics somewhat remote from politics, economics and the class struggle. Anderson specifically names Deutscher, Roman Rosdolsky and Mandel as the foremost contemporary (in 1975) practitioners of the classical school inspired by Lenin, Trotsky and Luxemburg. Ironically of course this Wikipedia entry puts Anderson himself in the 'western marxism' category. Why not a 'the information on this page is contested' flag? --Duncan 15:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sort of agree with comment above 

message: The case can be made that the American philosopher, Sidney Hook, in his earlier work, was a kind of Western Marxist.  His 1933 book, Towards the Understanding of Karl Marx was heavily influenced by and built upon the work of both Lukacs and Korsch.  And the book he wrote after that, From Hegel to Marx, explored the Hegelian roots of Marxism. That's sort of ironic considering that later on, Hook was the scourge not only of Communists but also of the New Left including its intellectual heroes like Herbert Marcuse, who was a noted Western Marxist of the Frankfurt School. 
--JimFarm 21:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sidney Hook?

message: Although "Western Marxism" is undoubtedly a broad church, I'm not sure if British Marxists such as Raymond Williams, Stuart Hall, Ralph Miliband, E.P. Thompson etc. can be counted among its members. "Western Marxism" does not mean non-Soviet Marxism or academic Marxism; rather, the term is mainly used for thinkers who tackle issues such as epistemology, metaphysics, etc. by way of Marxist theory. While Williams et al did share common ground with the likes of Lukács in addressing issues of culture that previous Marxists had dismissed as unimportant, their approach to these issues emphasised empirical research where Lukács, the Frankfurters, etc. tended to discuss cultural/superstructural matters by reference to abstract Hegelian theory. Hanshans23 (talk)
: Fair point, but seeing as there is no 'British Marxism' article, and that the term is not particularly recognised in the same sense as 'Western Marxism', perhaps a small section on British Marxism should be added to the article, with your referenced reasons for why the differentiation is made? Miliband and Williams are huge theorists, even if they never made sexy academic myths of themselves like some French theorists! --Tomsega (talk) 11:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: British Marxism

message: Merleau-Ponty was not a Marxist, as it is evident from that his article contains no mention of Marx. He was a disciple of Martin Heidegger, an opponent of Marxism, and was not known for any socialist/communist views. Wandering Courier (talk) 03:35, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not so.  See Joseph Bien, "Translator's Introduction," Adventures of the Dialectic, by Maurice Merleau-Ponty (Northwestern University Press, 1973), pp. ix-xxix.  On p. xii: "Until the 1950s Merleau-Ponty was the unofficial political editor of Les Temps modernes, the journal associated with Jean-Paul Sartre. Dwalls (talk) 23:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merleau-Ponty 

message: Was not a left communist. The fact that she was critical of Lenin doesn't put her in the camp of people who rejected Leninism utterly. She considered the Russian Revolution a great advance and achievement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.115.248 (talk) 17:14, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rosa Luxemburg 

message: The lead line of which read Usually seen as a separate current of thought, Cultural Studies developed by British academics in the 1960s shares much common ground with Western Marxism and the rest of which was patchy at best. None of it had citations. If something is usually seen as separate from, and merely shares common ground with something else - then it probably shouldn't share a wikipedia page. That is to say, lots of areas of human endeavor could be construed in this fashion (Polo and mini golf, murder and surgery, The Renaissance and Dulux). Also, as indicated by the rest of this talk page, this topic is particularly open to questionable edits and inclusions.
:Almost nothing in the article has citations. I see no special reason to remove that particular paragraph. To be consistent, you would have to blank almost the entire article, and I don't see that as being constructive. I do agree that in general uncited material should be removed, but in this case it does not seem like an appropriate way to proceed. Please understand that your changes are potentially controversial and need to be discussed. You might want to ask members of the philosophy project for advice or assistance. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blanked the section 'British Cultural studies' 

message: Can you explain your changes here. Per WP:LEAD, the article lead should summarise the contents of the body of the article. You haven't WP:CITED anything in support of these changes. Perhaps attach references to the material you referred to in writing the new lead? L.R. Wormwood (talk) 18:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes 

message: :Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory]] has an [[WP:RFC|RFC]]

message: Please see Talk:Cultural_studies#Redundancy%3F Sennalen (talk) 23:52, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancy? 

message: The list of Western Marxists is very good, still there are a few names missing, the most important (to my mind) probably Karl August Wittfogel: who was an orthodox (USPD, then KPD) communist and Stalinist in the Weimar Republic, but was not happy with total defeat in1933. His kind of Marxism incorporated Max Weber. (Wittfogel and Castoriadis are to my mind way more interesting sociological or traditional-philosophical thinkers than the others on the list, with the exception of Henri Lefebvre - and probably Gramsci)--Ralfdetlef (talk) 15:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wittfogel was also part of the Frankfurt School