Talk:Jet pack

message: I recently stumbled upon a video of a supposedly working Japanese jetpack made out of bottle rockets. (it's actually linked from the mythbusters wiki page). It looks as if it actually works. Trajectory looks a bit odd though, large chance it might be a hoax.
http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/31501/detail/
Whacha guys think?
Squiggle 14:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: mythbusters busted it.WolfKeeper 16:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working japanese water bottle rocket jetpack? 

message: The intro claims the US military declared jet packs are officially lamer than helicopters.   Source please?  Tempshill 19:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Googling found this. It's not official, but it sounds authoritative (then again, so do we). --Kizor 21:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  US military quote 

message: The actually existing "jet pack" is a familiar sight - not that you see it every day, but that it's memorable and many people have seen demonstrations on TV.  It should be thoroughly documented here.  The "jetpack in space" ought to be thoroughly documented also, although I think it should be in its own article.  Tempshill 19:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A-HA! I knew it was real, I just couldn't find a source. I doubt I'll be able to do so now, though. As for jetpacks in space, though, the MMUs and SAFER units are linked to in the article. --Kizor 21:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for expansion 

message: Any chance of an expanded fiction section? Too much of the article currently discusses the real world instances... --Fangz 14:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact vs Fiction 

message: A separate article has already been created for the Bell Rocket Belt. It should have its own article as an aircraft type. The details in this article about the Bell rocket belt should be moved to that article. Rsduhamel 22:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split request 

message: At about 17.50 on 1 Jan 2005 I merged Longer history of rocket packs into Jet pack. Anthony Appleyard 13:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of some of the text

message: The Rocket Belt and the Jet Pack are NOT the same machines. Both where built by the same company, Bell Aerosystems, but the Rocket Belt uses a hydrogen peroxide rocket as the power source to fly and the Jet Pack uses a Williams turbine. Please keep this two pages separated. If you want to add a picture of the Jet Pack to the Jet Pack page go to http://www.rocketbelt.nl and go to the Bell Jet Belt menu; don't be confused with the Rocket Belt, the word JET diferentiates both machines. 13:54, 25 February 2006 200.95.151.164 .
*The pages rocket belt and jet pack were identical, so I again redirected rocket belt to jet pack. I put some text in jet pack explaining the difference between a rocket belt and a jet pack. Anthony Appleyard 14:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Rocket Belt and the Jet Pack

message: Given that small TurboJet engines are commonly available for model aircraft these days, is it now feasible to build a TuboJet pack? 
The average weight of a man is about 190 pounds.
BMV jets (http://www.bvmjets.com/) supply a turbojet that can provide 50lbs of Thrust.
Turbine		Thrust (lbs)	Diameter 	Weight (lbs)	Price
JetCat P-200	50		5.12		5		$4,995.00
With 2 banks of 3 JetCat P-200's strapped to your back you would have 300lb of Thrust to play with. That should be enough to cover the weight of the man, the engines and a reasonable amount of fuel. Then again, I have no idea how many pounds of fuel one of these engines would burn per second. Does anyone here know the rough figures?
Or is there some flaw to this idea? Do these model jet engines only generate 50lbs of thrust when they are travelling at some speed through the air?
I've looked at pulsejet engines but they always seem to be very long, so might not be practical for a jetpack. Opinions? -- (unsigned by anon)
:I think that the big problem with turbojets is controllability. Basically turbojets can't respond to the throttle fast enough to give the fast thrust variation that you need. But hey, what do I know. -- Derek Ross | Talk 02:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Harrier jumpjets seem to manage it OK. I think a turbojet based jet pack has been built IRC.WolfKeeper 02:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jet Packs and Models

message: This article needs some cleaning up. After about half-way through the article, the language changes to far worse, barely legible due to serious grammatical errors.
:Yes, and the article also is very repititious; some of the later sections read as if they were paraphrased from earlier sections. The article needs a rewrite.--Drvanthorp 06:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is in serious need of clean up and restructuring. 1) It must separate fact from fiction. 2) The fiction is fine as long its kept there. 3) The non-fiction needs first the a) separation of the rocket (Bell) from the b) jet (Williams).  Individual elaboration on implementations is fine, just make certain to reference current disposition.  198.123.50.168 (talk) 17:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

text: There is inconsistent use of the term "jet pack/jetpack" and "rocket pack/rocketpack". Neither the word "jetpack" nor "rocketpack" appears in authoritative english dictionaries (Oxford or Websters).  So it would appear that terms "jet pack" and "rocket pack" are more appropriately generic terms. But "jetpack" and "rocketpack" will have legitimate use in trade names or specifically published names.  I have gone through and attempted to consistently apply the generic use of "jet pack" and "rocket pack". Mac160 (talk) 05:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup request 

message: * http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/02/06/solotrek.jetpack/index.html - Worth a read - article might need updating to take this into account.
* This seems to be a sit-in type of backpack helicopter, not a jetpack. See SoloTrek XFV. Anthony Appleyard 05:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Real jetpack

message: "At the end of the war this device was handed over to Bell which tested it on a tether out of fear of harm as no test flier was willing to risk his life with the German machine. What became of the device is not known but Bell later came up with its famous "Rocketbelt" design that Wendel Moore claimed was his own. Although of different configuration and operation, it is suspected that Moore had knowledge of the German machine - hardly an "original" idea."
The last two sentences in this paragraph from the article contain non-factual information, speculation, and opinion.  I believe those statements should be removed.  Any comments before I do so?
Overcast75 17:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: speculative statements

message: I remember seeing the jet pack get flown on an episode of six million dollar man in the 1980's when he was battling a robot which couldn't be stopped.   my friend says he saw it on Gilligans Island also.
:I also saw it on Knight Rider.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.26.43 (talk) 09:33, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: NCIS also had a whole episode about jet packs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.122.179 (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  appeared on an old episode of six million dollar man 

message: * People always say that a jetpack is an immpossible thing to build... it's not.  I'm still a kid that still goes to school like all others but little do the other kids know that it possible for even one of there schoolmates to build a jetpack.  the jetpack that i am building is called the Chaser.  it is not an active machine though it does seem that it is complete.  The Chaser is a simple divise 1 foot by 2 feet.  when the machine is put into an active mode it slowly gains the energy to speed up the "fans" that are turned up allowing are to push you down towards the ground.  then when the energy collectors are finished they blow through a diffrent set of fans blowing down.  as you levatate the fans that are blowing down are lifting you and the fans that are blowing up are keeping you at a reasonable height keeping you more comfortable flying. message by unknown user
* Are you describing a hovercraft or a backpack helicopter? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chaser Proto. 1 

message: The chaser is a simple 1 foot by 2 feet design of an inactive jetpack that is still in the process of being made... I am a kid ready for high school and i am already half way done with this flying machine  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bird moose (talk • contribs) 01:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kid and Dreams 

message: I understood that the cruise missile was powered by the same type of turboject used in the Olympic jet pack demoe?Engineman (talk) 06:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: cruise missile

message: The article repeatedly says that the cost of the fuel for a hydrogen peroxide powered rocketpack is one of the major negatives of this design - but how much are we actually talking here?  Does anybody know how much a 30-second amount of fuel costs?  Are we talking $10,000 here?  $1,000?  $500?  $50,000???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.128.26 (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Actual cost of a 30-second hydrogen peroxide flight

message: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4640262/James-Bond-style-jetpack-powered-by-high-pressure-water-invented.html
Obviously, it doesn't work without a lake or large source of water, or a boat/base unit to pump the water up to the pack, but it certainly appears to actually work. --204.4.131.140 (talk) 13:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, how do you class a water-jet pack? 

message: Looks like a wet dream for jetpack fans. See http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/01/move-over-jetboy-the-electric-powered-super-quiet-personal-vtol-vertical-takeoff-and-landing---nasa-puffin-may-be-the-pe.html
Fredrik Bränström (talk) 16:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe mention NASA's new Puffin personal aircraft 

message: In the second section (WWII German development) the section states that the prototype was handed over to "Bell."  
Assuming this is Bell Aerosystems in the USA?  Adding hyperlink untill further notice.
RRM MBA (talk) 02:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bell Aerosystems 

message: The following section needs to be reworded.
"Rocket packs can be useful in outer space, where much less thrust is needed, because the weightlessness of space removes the need to continually fight against gravity"
There is no weightlessness in space.  The sense of weightlessness is a byproduct of the speeds needed to offset the earth's gravity to remain in orbit.  the concept that weightlessness removes the need to fight against gravity is wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njb1969 (talk • contribs) 12:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I rephrased it.--Patrick (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jetpacks in space - Weightlessness and Gravity 

message: I find mentioning propellant usage per unit of time misleading when it comes to orbital operations. While it may be strictly true, the time factor is irrelevant when you're not hovering. Martijn Meijering (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but it is mentioned in a comparison with use near Earth. I think in an EVA the g-force does not need to be as high as g, and additionally, does not need to be continuous.--Patrick (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propellant usage per unit of time 

message: Can the flying tech used by fictional comic book character Iron Man be considered a Jetpack technology? And if not why not?. Also why no mention of Boba Fett from Star Wars?! He is clearly seen using a jetpack in the movies.--Ickesshadow (talk) 09:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture; Iron Man and Boba Fett? 

message: Didn't Michael Jackson use a jet pack in one of his concerts? Was this a real one or SFX?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charrchr (talk • contribs) 17:07, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Michael Jackson used a real jet pack in one of his concerts.  But it only looked like he was flying it.  Magician David Copperfield was hired to find a way to "switch" Michael (who had put on a helmet to shield his face) to a professional who donned a real jet pack and flew away, prompting the announcer to say over the loudspeaker - "Ladies and Gentlemen, Michael Jackson has left the building..."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.122.179 (talk) 15:34, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Jackson jet pack 

message: I would like to object to Jetpacks being tagged as an emerging technology.
# They have been around for a long time.
# They will always have limited range until we invent a nuclear energy supply small enough to fit into a backpack.
# The ability to have one person fly in such a manner is of limited practical value.
These are novelty items with only incremental changes.  They are not a promising emerging technology.
Indolering (talk) 22:45, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emerging Technology? 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Pac
This should be added.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.219.201 (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jet Pac 

message: One single AP press report (By Frank Jordans 5/14/2008) is the source for EVERY article that says Rossy "rose 2,600 feet" on his flight across the Alps. HOW did the reporter know that? WHO measured that and HOW? I am totally skeptical that given all the weight and the shortness of the wings that he could do any more than make an assisted glide at a steadily (if very slowly) declining altitude. I WANT ANSWERS! Genepoz (talk) 23:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  How did the AP reporter know if Yves Rossy "rose 2,600 feet"? 

message: some of the earliest jet packs was created in Romania in 1956 by Iustin Capra it was called the "flying rucksack" . Little is known by this project because the communist regime persecuted the inventor for his work.
few words about this are already written in the Romanian wiki: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Capr%C4%83#Automobilul_Virgilius  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.177.32.154 (talk) 10:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: It seems that when the jetpack provides an uplifting force at the back of the pilot, gravity should make the pilot tumble / turn forward, as his or her center of weight is in front of the jet. How is that effect avoided?Meerwind7 (talk) 13:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Function 

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message: 165.139.226.6 (talk) 15:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Less Negative? 

message: Here's a link to an article w/video: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6543347/Startup-plans-launch-worlds-jetpack-racing-league-2019.html Probably best to wait until the league actually starts, if ever. Until then this is just a "heads up." Phantom in ca (talk) 03:16, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYI: Jet Pack Aviation plans to start a racing league to foster competition 

message: Kg and pound 2A01:5EC0:1001:EB25:9C67:9F21:F39D:5797 (talk) 15:05, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight? 

message: It's impossible to see jetpacks in every country, due to high cost and dangerous to use by being near to a combustion engine and it is only used by professional pilots. But if you want an unusual sighting now available in Wikipedia articles by clicking this link.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaFryingPan (talk • contribs) 02:39, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rarity of jetpack sightings 

message: *Martin Jetpacks (30 minutes of flying, record at this time)
*Jetman jetpack
Go Fast Jetpack (one of the most significant jetsuit models, by records it set up) by Jet Pack International Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing companies 

message: In a few years or decades I think jet packs will be used as a sport, as fastest jet pack flyer or fastest jet pack, an other one could be jet pack drill etc. What do you think. 46.99.138.118 (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  jet packs used as a sport