Talk:DFB-Pokal Frauen

message: As I learned in a discussion about the proper location for the men's competition, DFB-Pokal is used in the English language instead of DFB-Cup. Though DFB Cup Women is the official title of the competition it is not the name used in practice and as of wikipedia naming conventions we use the name most common in English publications. There doesn't seem to be a general consensus whether to call the competition "Frauen DFB-Pokal" or DFB-Pokal (women), even DFB-Pokal Women might be viable. The competition is called "Frauen DFB Pokal" on Soccerway, but I can't find the competition on any other English sites. Suggestions appreciated...
Regards, OdinFK (talk) 07:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it ought to be moved to reflect the German name for this competition. It appears that the German wikipedia for this article is calling it DFB-Pokal (Frauen) (DFB-Cup (Women)). It looks like the DFP call it DFB-Pokal der Frauen (ref) which translates to DFB-Cup for the Women. I suggest calling it DFB-Pokal (women). --Pinkkeith (talk) 18:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move it to "Frauen DFB Pokal" since that is the only English language reference we could find and it has been almost four weeks since this discussion has been open. --Pinkkeith (talk) 20:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move request

message: I'm not active on english wikipedia so i won't do any official requests. The current title however is a strange mixture of english and german. I think that you should choose either of these ;-) instead of creating your own name.
If you chose to use the original german title as a proper name, it's DFB-Pokal. As the competition for men has the same name, listed as DFB-Pokal in en.wp, you could add _(women). Parentheses are "neater" (Ohms law above) as it is no official suffix, just a workaround for Wikipedia. Adding a german prefix "Frauen" is wrong in an english text, as "Frauen" is not part of the competition's official name.
However, even if you chose to invent a german title, it would be Frauen-DFB-Pokal as noun-noun compounds in german are either merged to funny long words (foot + ball = football, football + player = footballplayer, etc) or linked to each other by hyphens, which applies if the compound contains an abbreviation, as here. I have never seen Frauen-DFB-Pokal in any german text, usually it is referred to as DFB-Pokal der Frauen or something similar.
So the proper article name should be DFB-Pokal (women) just as suggested three years ago, if you want to use the original german name. Else, if you prefer to translate the title (if this is usual in your international sports articles) you are free to use proper english (something like Women's DFB cup) as there is no official english title given by DFB. --Magadan ?! 11:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: No move request, just a hint

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