Talk:Rogers' Rangers

message: The proper name of this unit is "Rogers' Rangers." That is the historically accurate, correct English title. Do not edit this article to change the apostrophe or add an extra "s." His name was not "Robert Roger." It was "Robert Rogers." This is a simple English 211 rule.
:Possessive form of Roger: Roger's
:Plural possessive form of Roger: Rogers'
:Possessive form of Rogers: Rogers's <--- The proper form for this article Ergbert 21:21, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Elements of Style Ergbert 21:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Bartleby/Strunk link is very old rules (at least pre-1922). It may be "right", but here are some alternate modern guides from USA Universities that say to ommit the "'s" in possesive nouns that end with "s": , , -- further, a search at A9 (across published books only) shows that most ommit the "'s" and use the form Rogers' --Stbalbach 21:59, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's from 1918. Wikipedia:Manual of Style says that if one spelling sees much greater use it should be used, even if it's incorrect...I really don't like that, as omitting the final "s" completely changes the meaning from a singular possessive of one word to a plural possessive of another, but I don't run Wikipedia... Ergbert 22:57, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomenclature of "Rogers' Rangers." 

message: Could someone change the link on the text Rogers Island. the correct URL should be: http://www.rogersisland.org/
:That is already what the link is and has been for months. Rmhermen 21:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rogers Island llink is wrong 

message: Be nice to break out the attack on St. Francis into a separate article with somewhat more detail: reason for the attack, Rangers' losses, accusations of theft by Abenaki, St. Francis forced to move their village, etc. It could then be referenced from "French and Indian War," "Abenaki," etc.Student7 22:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I appreciate both changes that were made to these words. However, the records will show that the group was tasked with "scouting." The word "reconnaissance" not being in general use at the time. I kind of liked the piping from one to the other. Obviously one editor found it jarring. How far back do we change the word? Did Caesar legionnaries "scout" or "conduct reconnaissance activities?" How about Joshua? Student7 13:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I find "scouting" to be a perfectly valid term and it's certainly more in touch with the time period; I just dislike piping. I'd prefer to avoid doing it if possible, but I wouldn't get into a revert war if you were to change it back. EvilCouch 02:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reconnaissance/Scouting

message: The link in the discussion of the raid on St Francis should link to Saint-François-du-Lac, not Saint-François. Saint-François-du-Lac is where the raid actually took place, Saint-François is entirely another city (over 60km apart, and on the wrong side of the St Lawrence River).
:I can't argue geography with you - you could be right, but entries in Wikipedia and the Catholic Encyclopedia for Francois de Sales mission, seems to be the same as where the attack took place. Maybe those sources are wrong, as well. Do you have a pointer/source that confirms "Francois du Lac"? We would certainly need that reference in order to justify any change.Student7 00:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First off, here's the area I'm talking about http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&z=11&ll=46.052982,-72.782707&spn=0.229208,0.466919&om=1. If you zoom in, you'll notice three locations all grouped close together: St-François-du-Lac, Pierreville, and Odanak. If you scroll south-southwest along the large river (St Lawrence), you'll see the incorrect St-François on the island of Laval. From http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13348a.htm - "... near Pierreville" and "... In 1759 a strong New England force under Major Rogers surprised and destroyed the settlement, including the mission church and records, killing 200 Indians." From http://www.patrimoine-religieux.qc.ca/mission/missione.htm (4th paragraph)- "They then regrouped in Odanak..." and "It was pillaged and destroyed in 1759 by troops led by Rogers." From http://www.avcnet.org/ne-do-ba/rrr_4.html - St-François-du-Lac translates to "St Francis of the Lake", and it's right on the St Francis River that's mentionned as Rogers' escape route. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abenaki#Location - "Two large tribal communities formed near St-Francois-du-Lac and Bécancour." I think that should be plenty... sorry if it's formatted weirdly, I haven't contributed to wikipedia before, and didn't feel like signing up just for this correction. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.68.154.191 (talk) 01:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and I just checked the wikipedia and catholic encyclopedia links that you mentionned... it's the wikipedia one that's wrong as well, and because of the same confusion. The Catholic Encyclopedia article mentions the Yamaska region, which is http://www.cogeby.qc.ca/img/Le%20bv%20Yamaska.gif (well, that's the yamaska drainage basin, but it's the same area). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.68.154.191 (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess I'm convinced. I've changed it. I also changed St. Francois du Lac, only in English, to reflect that it is was the target of Rogers Rangers. I also left a note for the other St. Francis that they weren't the correct one! My French is a "little" rusty, to say the least! If you wan't to amend the article yourself or leave something more comprehensible in French, someone might appreciate it, although I doubt there is much traffic there. Probably a good article to start on if you want to amend something. Incidentally, my links to English version did not seem to make the transition to the French discussion page.Student7 13:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The change should also be made to the "Raid on Saint-François" link in the 'Battles' section on the sidebar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.68.153.86 (talk) 15:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Francis link is wrong. 

message: Shouldn't the fact that many of Roger's Rangers fought on the loyalist side be noted in the introduction alongside the patriot references?Starviking (talk) 12:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loyalists 

message: My ancestor is Richard Rogers. You can find information or Richard Rogers in Steuben County, NY archives.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendallcounty (talk • contribs) 07:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Rogers is the brother of Robert Rogers 

message: Should we perhaps consider merging Queen's Rangers and King's Rangers here? I have also posed this question at the Military History talk page (here) -  theWOLFchild 16:55, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

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