Template talk:Football box

message: Wouldn't it be better, instead of forcing everyone to start using , we simply put the date parameter into the  template? That way we could let people keep putting dates in the  template in plain text, and the microformats would be automatically generated. – PeeJay 23:09, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microformats 

message: I think the template could do with an option for a key. We football fans may instinctively know that the arrows and numbers mean substitutions and times, but unfamiliar readers may not. The trouble is, with a template that complicated, I have no idea how to add it. Any template experts on hand to help? Oldelpaso (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Key 

message: Anyone think there should be something that indicates who started the shootout? --MicroX (talk) 04:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this. This is pretty useful. Perhaps an arrow at either end of "Penalties"? –HTD 19:10, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree too, any progress on this? --Pelotastalk|contribs 10:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

text: I've noticed some sites, UEFA among them IIRC, display the penalty takers on a stagger, i.e. the penalty takers do not all line up, and are instead about half a line out from each other. If we could replicate this somehow, we could easily indicate who took the first kick. – PeeJay 19:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who started the shootout 

message: What if the link in the  parameter goes bad?  Usually, when a link goes bad you  add a link to an archive copy, but leave the old link available.  But, if you add a , , or  template in to the  parameter then the  looks bad.  
For example,
What do you recommend? Blevintron (talk) 22:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The above post was made in 2012, but many templates have this same problem. In fact some can't display archive links at all, the embedded template causes havoc on render. Not sure what the solution is. -- GreenC 01:07, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just wrap the reference in  tags in that case? | report     = Report ==> Report –Sygmoral (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken links in the {{para|report}} parameter? 

message: What about include the extra-time of the match?--Marceloml (talk) 18:14, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean? – PeeJay 19:02, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean to put the minutes gived by the referee in both times of the match. (Sorry for my english)--Marceloml (talk) 19:23, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you mean injury time (extra time is something different). It seems a bit pointless to me though. – PeeJay 19:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra-time 

message: Hey, just a small thing and maybe not needed but what about changing the link to a penalty shootout to Penalty shoot-out (association football), so we avoid a redirect? Kante4 (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penaltiy shootout 

message: Requesting the change to [| this version] for better accessibility with the use of . Better accessibility also evident in mobile view (with its current default stylesheet). --SocietyBox (talk) 08:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I also updated the test cases for you. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code rewrite 

message: The correct abbreviation for "versus" is "vs" not simply "v". Therefore, could someone please change line 11 of this template from:
! style="width:22%; text-align:center" |  
to:
! style="width:22%; text-align:center" |  
Thank you. – PeeJay 10:04, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. versus agrees with you that vs is a correct abbreviation, but it disagrees that it can't simply be v as well: "Versus, often abbreviated v., v, vs. or vs...".  Therefor, you will need to get a consensus to change the cosmetics of this template per your request. —  (t • e • c) 12:06, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "v" or "vs" 

message: Request to change the following code:
! style="width:39%; text-align:right" class="vcard attendee" | 
! style="width:22%; text-align:center" |  
! style="width:39%; text-align:left" class="vcard attendee" | 
to
 
| style="width:39%; text-align:right" class="vcard attendee" | 
! style="width:22%; text-align:center" |  
| style="width:39%; text-align:left" class="vcard attendee" | 
In essence to replace the ! to | so that the team name is not defaulted to bold type Header but is controlled by the user who is using the template.
Refer to Template:footballbox collapsible for the way the teams are outputted since this is supposed to be identical in its behavior except that the output is collapsible.
A discussion with an example has begun at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Template_footballbox_.26_footballbox_collapsible.
Brudder Andrusha (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: This will affect the appearance of all 12,000 transclusions, so there should be a clear consensus to make the change before we enact this request. Let's wait for the outcome of the discussion you linked to - it will need at least two or three days to give all interested parties a chance to take part, I would say. If the discussion results in a consensus to make the change, please reopen this request. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 19 August 2014 (teams displayed as headers) 

message: The Penalties wikilink should have a hyphen in the word shoot-out so it links directly to Penalty shoot-out (association football)
MicroX (talk) 01:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Declining per WP:NOTBROKEN. The link Penalty shootout (association football) leads to the article Penalty shoot-out (association football) as much as the link Penalty shoot-out (association football) does; I don't think putting over 10,000 articles in the job queue for such a change is worth it. SiBr4 (talk) 09:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: What is a job queue? You'd just be making one simple edit on one template. --MicroX (talk) 06:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: See Help:Job queue. A change to a template needs to be reflected on all pages using the template, which does not happen immediately. SiBr4 (talk) 09:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 10 December 2014 

message: Google are now using the Microformats 'summary' attribute when displaying search results. It's not looking right in the Google results at the moment. See http://i.imgur.com/roHvZS6.png as an example.
I've made a few proposals in the template:Football box/sandbox file. I've added team names to a summary attribute and also added a location attribute to the the stadium/venue.  I've already made the changes to the template:Football box collapsible template and the output now looks a lot better on Google for wikipedia pages using that template.
TheBigJagielka (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: , I know no one who knows microformates better than you.  Can you confirm this issue here and that the proposed code in the sandbox will resolve it? Thanks. —  (e • t • c) 02:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

text: No other comments, so  — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:41, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Now the template is broken when attendance is missing. Stadium and referee info are in the same row. Dr. Vicodine (talk) 20:41, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The changes has been reverted. User:TheBigJagielka, can you thoroughly test your changes and let me know when you are ready to re-deploy? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:17, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: , I have made the necessary change and the testing can be seen below:
; Stadium, Referee and Attendance
; Stadium, Referee but no Attendance
; Stadium, but no Referee or Attendance
; No Stadium, but includes Referee and Attendance
; Stadium, Attendance but no Referee
TheBigJagielka (talk) 14:24, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google using Microformat summary 

message: Quite a while ago already, I edited the  template to make the report parameter easier to use. I did this because everyone always writes report=[url Report], so I automated that format so you can just write report=url instead. It detects when the report parameter starts with http, and if so, wraps it into such a link. 
The following edit is required:  needs to be replaced with .
Thanks! –Sygmoral (talk) 20:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:19, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 2 March 2016 

message: See above: this code change allows people to list goals and penalties using normal list syntax (asterisk), which will be rendered in a , rather than putting  between them (as suggested by Walter Görlitz). The required change is that the parameters goal1, goal2, penalties1 and penalties2 are replaced with constructs like this: 

This code is already in use on the  template, as demonstrated by the last few matches on Belgium national football team results – 2010s.
Thanks! –Sygmoral (talk) 04:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: May you implement the change in this template's sandbox and update the testcases so your suggested change is visible? Thanks. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 04:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  done! I had to add a new test case (nr 3) because the new functionality can only be tested with new syntax. The other tests do show that it is backwards compatible, however. –Sygmoral (talk) 04:53, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! The change seems good for MOS:ACCESSIBILITY as you stated, and you have support, so this looks uncontroversial. I'm planning on applying the changes later once I take another look shortly (within 24 hours). Cheers, — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 05:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Went ahead and synced with Special:Diff/721182966. Tests looked great. Cheers, — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 06:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 20 May 2016 

message: Requesting to add  (similar to this edit) to allow the ID's to not need quotations while still supporting instances where the quotation is included (and therefore preventing duplicate quotes). Secret Agent Julio (talk) 17:46, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh my, they require quotes right now? That isn't great design... :/ Is there a way to easily find all usages of this template with this recent new id parameter, so that we can just update them and then always add quotes in this template? –Sygmoral (talk) 17:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, definitely not the greatest idea. I know  brought it up here, so it sounds like the quotes were left as it was thought people would still include quotations? Either way, this prevents the duplicate quotes  mentioned. I believe this was implemented during some work on :Category:Pages using invalid self-closed HTML tags, so after only a week it has already been thoroughly implemented. I could try to see if the quotes could be removed via AWB, but for now this is probably the best solution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by alternate account of Secret Agent Julio (talk • contribs) 18:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: For now, we can put in something like  (or some other string template if there's a better one than ). After the instances of  with '"' are corrected, the update would then be a simpler  probably. Read Redrose64's follow up on his talk. If adding quotes is not recommended, the request here is probably okay — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 18:18, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

text: User:Redrose64 didn't get the ping from the unsigned comment. Courtesy post — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 18:23, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

text:  didn't get the ping from my unsigned comment. Courtesy post. Secret Agent Julio (talk) 19:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 13:40, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjustment to ID parameter 

message: Before 1881, there were no referees, with umpires as the only match officials. 
This is a bit of a niche request, no doubt, but would it be possible in any way to have an option to show "Umpire" rather than "Referee" for these early matches?  Thanks Grover cleveland (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't it be "Umpires" (plural), since there were two umpires per game (one provided by each side)? – PeeJay 22:15, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It varied.  For example, there was one umpire at the first FA Cup final.  It later became customary for each team to provide its own umpire, which led to the introduction of the referee to settle disputes between the umpires.  But you make a good point -- ideally we would have the option of both "umpire" and "umpires", although I'd be OK with just "umpire" for now. Grover cleveland (talk) 18:19, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Enable "umpire" for pre-1881 matches? 

message: Restore template as of 22 July 2016‎, the changes should be discussed and tested further in the sandbox before being adopted, as there have been various issues caused by the latest edits. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , it's impossible to judge whether a reversion is justified when you only state "there have been various issues". Nor does it help  fix the issues. Cabayi (talk) 07:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: They've now responded, hopefully the alignment issue will be fixed soon. However, hopefully in the future the sandbox can be further utilised, the microdata and layout changes created a number of problems. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

text: I've solved right-aligning the date and time on desktop while left-aligning on mobile — see sandbox and testcases. Before I take it live, I thought I'd ask if I should center the date and time in mobile? Centering the date and time in mobile wasn't possible in the previous layout, but it is possible now. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 04:21, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, I'm not sure which would be preferable, whatever would make most sense. However, the time alignment still seems a bit strange, see 2018–19 UEFA Nations League A, where there are two lines for the time. Can this be right aligned as well? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 00:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll keep thinking of a CSS solution for this. Putting two different times breaks the data structure, though, so if this is a common format, maybe another parameter (time2?) may help? Another parameter would also make the CSS solution very easy. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 17:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

text: I don't know if it's related, but there is a malformed time tag near the start of the code. pauli133 (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template issues 

message: On smaller screens (or half-width windows), the time field is left-justified and out of alignment with the date (as seen at 2018 FIFA World Cup Final, it happens when the time field is too long). SounderBruce 22:04, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Time formatting

message: I have updated this template to use Lua, which should reduce the template expansion complexity, but have no effect on the html output.  I have temporarily saved the old version in the sandbox for comparison in the testcases.  please let me know if you see any problems. Frietjes (talk) 19:49, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: now using templatestyles.  please let me know if you see any problems. Frietjes (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , would it be possible to add a parameter to the module for a note below the scoreline? For example, see UEFA Euro 1968 final tournament#Italy vs Soviet Union and UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group I#Serbia v Albania. Then a  tag would no longer need to be used. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:24, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: S.A. Julio, sure.  should we call it scorenote or ? Frietjes (talk) 17:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , sounds good. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: S.A. Julio, now implemented. Frietjes (talk) 23:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Lua version 

message: In October 2018, .mobile-float-reset was removed from MediaWiki:Mobile.css and Wikipedia:TemplateStyles was recommended instead. Please fix. --SocietyBox (talk) 20:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  mobile-float-reset removed 

message: Can the a.e.t be made smaller because it is unacceptably large.--Sakiv (talk) 21:39, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly is unacceptable about it, please? – PeeJay 08:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Only the score should be so prominent. The fact of when the win came is not as important as the score.--Sakiv (talk) 17:41, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean, that's a matter of opinion. Ideally, we shouldn't reduce the font size unless absolutely necessary because of accessibility requirements. – PeeJay 23:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  a.e.t 

message: Who decided this was a good idea? There was never such a thing as "golden goal extra time" or "silver goal extra time", there was only ever "extra time". We do not need to specify that a game went to some kind of "special" extra time. – PeeJay 08:33, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Well "golden goal extra time" or "silver goal extra time" just refers to extra time under the golden/silver goal format, a number of sources have used this wording        . This seems worth noting given the unique format, the term "asdet" is commonly used to denote matches using golden goal/sudden death rules. S.A. Julio (talk) 23:52, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Those terms are colloquial only. I'm not complaining about the use of "asdet" as that appears to have some official usage, but the others have none. Even in prose, I'm not specifically opposed to the usage of those terms, but the use of "agget" and "asget" are complete neologisms here. – PeeJay 08:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  agget/asget 

message: I have been trying to work around a problem with the current setup of the  parameter, but my Lua skills are negligible. When the parameter starts with "http", an automatic link of the style Report is generated. This works fine, as long as nothing else is included after the URL. When a  template is included after the parameter value, such as at 2008 Caribbean Cup qualification, the result is a semi-broken link followed by a poorly formatted template rendering. Can anyone here adjust the code here so that in addition to looking for "http" at the start of the parameter value, the module also looks for any templates? If templates are found, the parameter should probably just be rendered without trying to make a link. 
Note that this problem also exists in  (cf Softball at the 2011 Pan American Games) and  (cf Canada at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics). – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Jonesey95, I implemented the simple fix.  we could probably do something more sophisticated and move the  after the link, but that would require more string processing. Frietjes (talk) 15:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! It looks like that solves the broken-link problem; if editors fix the dead links, the plain URL will no longer be displayed, so they will fix two problems with one edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:33, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have implemented the same fix at :Module:Football box collapsible and a similar fix at . – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:43, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  report parameter edge case 

message: A small suggestion: change the location parameter so that it will still display without the stadium; for articles such as 1958 FIFA World Cup qualification – UEFA Group 7, the stadium isn't listed (and might not be well documented). SounderBruce 08:15, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location parameter 

message: , I hope you don't mind if I ping you. I'm inexperienced with Lua templates, and I see above that you handled the 2018 rewrite. I've tested an update to Module:Football box/sandbox. The live template creates a complex table, and screen readers (NVDA and VoiceOver) make a mistake with column headers and attribute all penalties to the home team because the penalties cell is technically in that column. Using the "headers" attribute makes it possible to manually assign the position. Rjjiii (talk) 18:52, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Rjjiii, thank you.  your changes look good.  the only possible problem will be if the total html output adds pages to :Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded since people love putting many of these on the same page.  but, the only way to find out is to try. Frietjes (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: While testing some pages, I realized this will result in multiple ids with the same name on some pages (and potential problems if those ids are referenced outside of this context), so disregard. Thank you for the reply though, Rjjiii (talk) 19:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

text: So, my next thought on this was that the template needs something like the Lua equivalent of  added to each td element's id to make them unique. I'm not sure how badly that will affect the pages that are heavily transcluding the template. I had intended to hack something in the sandbox and test, but real life is fairly intense at the moment, so I'm avoiding that opportunity for additional stress. I'm posting the idea here in case I do not come back around to it. Regards, Rjjiii (talk) 04:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility 

message: Would a cautions section being added to this make sense? Yoblyblob (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. Cards don't directly contribute to the score. – PeeJay 15:26, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yellow/red cards 

message: Not sure when this changed, but years ago, the winning team was in bold and the non-winning team was not. Now all the teams are in bold making it more difficult to scan through a list of games and pick out the winner. --Trödel 20:54, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Both teams have always been in bold, as far as I can remember. – PeeJay 18:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the winning team being in Bold?  

message: Hey guys, just noticed an issue with the infobox.
If the report is a PDF, it shows up with the PDF icon, but this seems to be an issue with a scoreline with less than two goal scorers, which has caused a scrollbar to appear - This is what I mean. - Is there a fix for this? J man708 (talk) 11:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Report PDF icon issue