Talk:Ivar Vidfamne

message: Ivar Vidfamne is the same as Ivar the Boneless
:Haabet, we are already dealing with your theories on the Swedish Wikipedia and the Danish has been averted. I guess I have to open that rfc on you.--Wiglaf 20:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Haabet, after seeing how you read Saxo (Talk:List of dubious Danish kings), I'd rather you wait until I have verified whether she mentions either of them.--Wiglaf 06:29, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: Vem var Ivar Vidfamne?
(2006-04-12)
Vem var Ivar Vidfamne som har gett Ivar Vidfamnes gata dess namn?
Svar: 
Ivar Vidfamne var en dansk sagokung, som berättas ha fått sitt tillnamn genom att lägga under sig stora områden kring Östersjön, bl a Sveaväldet, och i Saxland och England. Enligt sagan var han farmors far till Sigurd Ring.
http://www.stockholm.se/Extern/Templates/FAQPage.aspx?id=90526
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Ivar Vidfamne, dansk sagokonung, son af Halfdan,
hvilken på anstiftan af Ingjald Illrådes (se I n
g-j a l d 1) dotter Åsa blef dräpt af sin broder
konung Gudröd i Skåne, Asas make. När hon efter
Gudröds död farit hem till sin fader, följde
I. efter med en stor här för att hämnas, och
Ingjald, som ej vågade strida mot öfvermakten,
tog sig själf af daga. Därefter lade I. under
sig hela Svea välde, hela Danmark, en stor del
af Saxland, länderna kring Östersjön och en........
--Arigato1 10:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A website, and an article from a 1910 encyclopedia? You'll need to try harder. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 12:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that this is a Swedish encyclopedia. I really don't think there is much different from that encyclopedia and a new encyclopedia since the original sources are the same. And as you see, this is still in use. --Arigato1 12:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  From Stockholm.se 

message: Hur fan kan han vara en dansk kung när han beskrivs som kung av Götarna och hans rike e småland, götaland och östra svealand?
e det bara jag som osar utländsk okunskap och förväxling eller har nån halvlärd jänkare skrivit detta?
eller i varje fall så har någon gjort artikelns karta lite väl fel...
--Carl
:He came from a Danish dynasty and Scania was not Sweden that time. There was actually nothing called Sweden that time. He also became king of Zealand --JHF1000 (talk) 13:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I pretty much think it was the other way round. It seem quite true, that Scania was an independent kingdom at the time of Ivar Vidfadme, but this also applies for all the other parts of the later Danish Kingdom, that they until around the time of Ivar were independent Kingdoms. It wasn't "Denmark" that conquered Scania, it was Scania/Ivar that conquered Denmark, and since the time of Ivar it seem to be normal to regard the Danish kingdoms as an unity now ruled by a single king, and it's well documented in the Frankish Annals that Osfrid 'de Sconaowe' was a part of the Danish delegation in the year 811. So of course Ivar was Scanian, but if the people of Scania in the 7th century belonged to the Danish tribe, then it would be equally true to call Ivar and any other Scanian from that period for Danish. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 10:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In some sources he is described as coming from the Danish Lejre dynasty of the Skjoldungs, and as being king of Lejre. In that case he might have been a Danish king conquering the Scanian realm.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 02:26, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dansk? 

message: Ivar Vidamne is the son of Gudröd, king over Swede, Sealand and Saxland with sit in Sealand.
The Hversu Noregr byggðist and Njáls saga tells from Ivar "boneless", son of Harald, King of Northumbria (Danelag occupation) and Rogaland? in Norge (before).
That myths play 100 years later. The myths say he is a son of Ragnar (a myths construction), but he is a son of harald of harald the gamle
and he has a daughter with deep-mind.
The Myths remix Ivar of Scane and Ivar boneless, but real that are different peoples.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.159.60.52 (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ivar = 2 persons 

message: Vidfame
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thread_title:  vidfame