Talk:List of Nintendo Entertainment System games

message: This was once a great list of NES games to refer to whenever needed to look up release dates and publishers etc.  Who messed this up?  And why?  Why did you do that?  What were you thinking?  You didn't make it better, you messed it up to all holy hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.13.239.154 (talk) 00:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears as though this list has been corrected.  A big thank you to the person who did this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.13.229.156 (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who in the name of holy crap has mangled this once great list of NES games to a bum fuzzled mess of epic proportions? 

message: I think I've noticed a few mistakes in the list on this page. I'm new to commenting on Wikipedia, and so I'm not going to make any edits myself, but perhaps a more active member can verify these and make the necessary corrections.
The game "Cloud Master" looks like it was only released for the NES in Japan (well, for the Famicom). It was released in North America, but for the Sega Master System, not the NES, as far as I can tell.
Three games ("Ms. Pac-Man", "Pac-Man", and "R.B.I. Baseball") are listed twice: once under the licensed games, and once under the unlicensed games. Are there multiple versions of any of these? I think they're all really only unlicensed games, and shouldn't be duplicated here.
Since there's a clear temporal divide between unlicensed games contemporary with the lifespan of the console (1995 and earlier) and homebrew games (2007 and later), perhaps the "Unlicensed" section should be split into two sections: "Unlicensed" and "Homebrew". More a suggested improvement than a correction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.60.254.11 (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll suggest too that homebrews should be removed or separated.  They're in a class of their own.  1) They don't see wide distribution like in toy stores back then. 2) Nintendo doesn't care anymore. 66.114.93.6 (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the games Ms. Pac-Man, Pac-Man and R.B.I. Baseball being listed twice: Ms. Pac-Man is available as a licensed game from Namco and an unlicensed game by Tengen. Same goes for Pac-Man. As far as R.B.I. Baseball goes, I took the liberty of removing it from the list of licensed games. I have looked at images of the cartridge and box art available on Google and also a scan of the manual (http://www.digitpress.com/library/manuals/nes/RBI%20Baseball.pdf) but there is no mention of it being licensed by Nintendo. If someone can find information to back up the claim, feel free to add it back. 85.24.163.217 (talk) 04:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The three earliest Tengen releases, Pac-Man, R.B.I. Baseball, and Gauntlet, do indeed have licensed releases and should be included on this page. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengen_(company) article mentions this (although it has a dodgy-looking source that no longer exists). For a better source, you could check out the Gaming Historian's work here (https://www.theregister.com/2015/07/25/happy_30th_anniversary_tengen_you_fought_the_video_game_law_and_the_law_won/?page=2) or here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLA_d9q6ySs) Brideck (talk) 14:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  a few corrections 

message: Gauntlet I was an unlicensed game, at least originally. I don't know if they made a liscenced version later, but it should probably be listed, despite its huge popularity, under unlicensed games.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soco79 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gauntlet 

message: Game is listed as a August 1986 North American release, when the wiki page for Metroid lists the release date as August 1987.
No changes made.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.249.195 (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metroid 

message: Of the games library, I mean, mentioned at the start of the article. 68.156.95.34 (talk) 05:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do unreleased games count in the opening tally? 

message: How can you gauge which games were significant if the sales figures aren't listed?  Also why release the North America and European release dates and not the Japanese?  And how many European nations did Nintendo sell games in?  Are those sales any significant amount for the NES?  Dream Focus 16:46, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  where are the sales figures? 

message: It's wiki page says that it was released in 1993, not 1994  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.56.29 (talk) 17:36, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Flintstones: Surprise at Dinosaur Peak 

message: There are 35 PAL games.  The list is missing Rainbow Islands.  It is different from the North American realease.  I used the mexican runners guide to figure out what was off.  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KDNGI76HoMNyYLL6RqWu4PqUbw-lI920tf7QTclnLLE/edit  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.191.118 (talk) 22:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  714 games 

message: I came here to try to list the games by release date, however, the format is currently in Month-Year format with the month in words which makes this impossible. Not to mention that some don't have the months listed. I think it should probably be in year-month format with both the year and month listed numerically since this makes sorting possible (and removes problems where the release month isn't available). StarkRG (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date Format 

message: I propose that List of Family Computer games be merged into this article. The Famicom and NES are practically the same thing! There's only regional difference. It's also more work and unnecessary stuff for all. I can't merge them completely, since I'm an IP, so could someone help? 184.13.54.213 (talk) 01:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree! Snes had 2 separeted lists and was merged as well, there´s no point to have those 2 lists separeted just because the product names are different, since the hardware is the same, they even had adaptors to each other. It woul be the same as if we separeted playstation 4 games into 3 lists, one for US, one for EU and other for JP. Ogat (talk) 21:27, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good! Now we have 2 people. We have to wait for more, though... 184.13.69.214 (talk) 08:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If no objections are raised here or at the other article's talk page, feel free to go ahead. Clearly, a discussion already occurred over SNES/Super Famicon and consensus was reached to do the same thing. It makes sense to follow suite here. Heck, I would help if I had the time. Jtrevor99 (talk) 15:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Best practice is to create the merged page and then change the deprecated page(s) into redirects.  See WP:ATD-M and, more generally, WP:DELETE. Jtrevor99 (talk) 20:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is, I think I need an account to make a page, and I'm not allowed to, so someone else needs to help... 184.13.40.127 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Never mind, I have it now! I'll try to start the merge soon. SuperGamer06 (talk) 05:03, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal 

message: WWF Superstars, WWF Wrestlemania Challenge and WWF Steel cage Challenge were also PAL games, not Ameriscan only.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.224.32.158 (talk) 10:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Your source? SuperGamer06 (talk) 01:33, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some games were also released in PAL region 

message: Why are the release dates for Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Mach Rider and Soccer being changed, particularly within their own articles? I was not able to find a single source supporting the new dates, and the sources cited within those articles supports the old ones.
For context, the original dates were October 18, 1985 for Soccer, June 1986 for Donkey Kong Jr. Math, and August 1986 for Mach Rider. The new ones are March 1987 for Soccer, and October 18, 1985 for Donkey Kong Jr. Math and Mach Rider. This seems false to me, but does the user who changed this have a source backing up his or her claims?2601:646:8C00:643B:E997:74B5:8DC8:975B (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates of early releases 

message: Greetings, fellow Wikipedians:
I am now proposing a merger of List of Family Computer games with this article. Said merger seems to be necessary because the respective pages for the SNES and Super Famicom were merged for the same reasons. I hope we can make the merged article even better than the original two.
Sayounara!
HOGOKI (talk) 21:01, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: As there is a section for unlicensed games released after the consoles lifespan, should we include the games from retrousb.com?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColeShrop (talk • contribs) 03:37, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Unlicensed Games 

message: Mindscape were not developers, they were publishers. See Eastridge Technology / Gray Matter for actual developers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamansec (talk • contribs) 01:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mindscape developers 

message: Three years ago, a user named SuperGamer06 made a merger proposal, which was accepted, but the merge never happened. I want permission to finish the job. Thing is, I don't think SuperGamer06 is active. Please reply if you knows how to help. Ludexteria (talk) 21:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I’d recommend adding all the content to this article then replacing the Famicon list article with a redirect to this one. Thanks for your work. Jtrevor99 (talk) 01:46, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As you might have noticed, nothing has really happened ever since this happened. That is because this page has so much content that the editor is SLOW and I don't have the attention span for that. So if someone else is willing to help, go for it. Ludexteria (talk) 20:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unfinished Merge 

message: There are actually 673 licensed North American NES games (if you count Short Order and Eggsplode! as separate games) plus 2 championship cartridges and 5 compilations.
=== Games ===
=== Compilations ===
Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like you're right - I get 672 + 2, but that's because I didn't count the two versions of Pac-Man as separate games. If one does count those as two games then I also get 673 + 2. Good catch! If you're willing, the other numbers probably should be checked too. (Hopefully those are right - I think my error was in subtracting compilations from the NA count that weren't released in NA, such as Super Mario Bros./Tetris/Nintendo World Cup.) Jtrevor99 (talk) 02:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct number of licensed North American games 

message: Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like you're right - I get 672 + 2, but that's because I didn't count the two versions of Pac-Man as separate games. If one does count those as two games then I also get 673 + 2. Good catch! If you're willing, the other numbers probably should be checked too. (Hopefully those are right - I think my error was in subtracting compilations from the NA count that weren't released in NA, such as Super Mario Bros./Tetris/Nintendo World Cup.) Jtrevor99 (talk) 02:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compilations 

message: I propose merging List of Famicom games into List of Nintendo Entertainment System games. This was brought up here and I decided to do a proper approach at discussing a merger proposal as per WP:MERGE. Both lists are practically the same and have a large overlap. I suggest protecting/salting the Famicom list due to being merged multiple times in the past. Pinging  Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 21:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Might be best to keep the discussion at the Wikiproject, as there's already more participants over there. Which was why I started the discussion there - pages like this often don't get much traffic from the sort of editors that discuss policy like this. Sergecross73 msg me 23:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I’ll close this then. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 01:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I believe all the unlicensed games should be in one list, not separate lists. Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 18:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlicensed games lists 

message: is just a update/revision of the Kyuukyoku Harikiri Stadium. 177.86.21.18 (talk) 17:19, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyuukyoku Harikiri Stadium '88 is not another game 

message: There are actually 1395 licensed games. I counted. And there are 2 versions of Pac-Man that should be separated. Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 19:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The two versions of Pac-Man doesn't have any major differences and are thus considered the same game. It's not like a Star Force or Maniac Mansion situation where there are two completely different ports of the same game. 85.164.12.33 (talk) 19:00, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonetheless, they should be separate. Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 17:27, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual number of licensed games 

message: I think the list of officially licensed Famicom/NES video games by region and release date should be listed as "Japan", "North America" and "Europe/PAL regions" in that order just like all the other video game lists by console (since the NES first came out in Japan as the "Family Computer" and later in North America and PAL regions as the "Nintendo Entertainment System"), not as "Europe/PAL regions","Japan" and "North America". Could someone rearrange the regions and release dates from "Europe/PAL regions", "Japan" and "North America" to "Japan", "North America" and "Europe/PAL regions", please? ArthurRead1976 (talk) 14:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That would take a fair amount of tedious manual work; you are welcome to do so. Jtrevor99 (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famicom/NES video game regions listing