Talk:Cyprus Mines Corporation

message: "for a population that had a genetic predisposition to not be able to digest milk." Can anybody elaborate on this? Sounds like charlatan genetics to me:P Mavros 22:51, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Contributor, please register an account so that we know who you are. Or at least sign your name after you've finished typing. I have two points to make; firstly "Lactose intolerant" should be used, with a link to that article, because not everybody will understand that way of "phrasing" it, as demonstrated above. Secondly, yes, this article is highly biased and makes a lot of statements that are difficult, if not impossible, to verify. Also the tone of the writing is not neutral, and there are a lot of "facts" that aren't offered up very well. This article could use some work by someone who actually knows what they are talking about as well as knowing wikipedia. --Badharlick 19:21, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to try to clean it up a little.  My local library has The story of the Cyprus Mines Corporation, so we'll see how that looks as a source to start.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 15:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oddly enough, it turns out that my friend had the book himself, and it looks well-written and sourced.  I've got a lot of stuff going on now, but I'll start working through it.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 15:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

text: So how on earth a lactose intolerant population traditionally makes and consumes dairy products (halloumi being the most famous)?Mavros 16:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it sounds pretty sketchy.  I'm going to comment out that line until a source is found for it.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 15:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup Needed

message: The first link was the online text of Varnavas's book but the server is unfortunately dead. Rescuing stuff from Google cache (omitting lists of names of people and villages):
In 1925 at the Skouriotissa (Foukassa) mine which was run  by the American CYPRUS MINES CORPORATION, a terrible accident took place with the largest number of casualties ever seen in the history of Cyprus mining.
On the morning of 18th March, eleven miners (eight Turkish-Cypriots and three Greek-Cypriots) were  trapped in the mine shafts when a fall of about twenty thousand tons of rock and ore blocked the exit. They all met a terrible death by asphyxia, and from the intolerable heat and toxic gases. When their bodies were recovered they were  unrecognizable, and according to Argyros Karapiperis of Flasou and other veteran miners who were  working at the time at Skouriotissa, they were buried together in two  common graves, at the Turkish cemetery of St. George of Solea (near the mine) and at the  church of St. John the Theologian at Katydata. 
The Strike at the Skouriotissa Mine in 1936
One thousand Greek and Turkish-Cypriot miners were working at the Skouriotissa mine in 1936. On the 18th of August a strike was declared, the aim of which was to secure the payment of wages by the company and not by sub-contractors, that a minimum wage be fixed at three shillings and payment be made every 15 days.
The strike went on for 32 hours and a strike committee was elected. This was  made up of ... The strike ended after management promised to meet workers’ demands.
The workers had yet to be organised into Unions. 
The Strike at Mavrovouni Mine in 1936
Over 2000 Greek and Turkish Cypriots were working at the Mavrovouni mine in  1936. On 31st August a strike broke out as a result of the Company’s arbitrary lowering of wages.
A joint meeting was held at which a committee was elected to lead the strike and draw up the claims to be submitted to the company. The committee was made  up of ...
The workers demanded wage increases, lower working hours, sick pay, and reductions in the rent paid to the company for the homes in which they lived.
Following the police intervention the strike was put down on the third day and the strike committee members were arrested and sent to prison for eight days. About a hundred Greek and Turkish-Cypriot miners were driven from their jobs, company houses and the mining area, as they were considered “instigators of the strike” and “dangerous troublemakers”.
In this strike, as in others, the miners were not union members, as the Company threatened with dismissal and exile any worker who showed signs of wishing to join the union. 
The 1948 Strike
During the strike by two thousand Greek and Turkish-Cypriot miners employed by the American Mining Company in 1948, on 3rd March at Mavrovouni settlement and on 8th March near the Xeros jetty, many of the workers who were defending their own and their children’s rights to a decent wage, were felled by police bullets.
[...]
The strike was declared jointly by PEO and the Turkish-Cypriot miners union on 13th January and ended on 16th May 1948. It was led throughout by both unions, and scores of joint meetings took place in the towns and villages of the mining area ... often with the participation of wives and children.
In the course of this strike 76 men and women were taken to court and sent to prison for up to two years. These included 17 Turkish-Cypriots and 15 women. All names appear in Table II. Many more were made to pay fines ...
Mavros 17:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Info on accident/strikes

message: So the horrible record of death and destruction at Cypress Mines consists of the death of 11 miners in a cave in? While it may be true that this was one of the worst mining accidents in Cypriate history, eleven deaths, however terrible for those who died and their families, hardly constitutes a major disaster. This is true for countries with large populations. However the total population in Cyprus around that time was about 200,000 (186,173 in 1881 just 50 years before the accident). You can draw your own conclusions as to how serious a disaster this was.
Also, a 32 hour strike, which the company eneded by granting all off demands of the workers, doesn't really seem that outrageous either. [Unsigned comment, 14:20, 19 September 2006 71.116.182.187 (Talk) (→Info on accident/strikes)]
:Agreed -- I toned down the article a bit, but it needs more work to be balanced & encyclopedic. An old tailings pile doth not an environmental disaster make.... Cheers, Pete Tillman 23:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately the two sources for the article present two extremes.  It was originally written apparently entirely based on the book on Greek and Turkish labor struggles and biased accordingly, to which I added a bit from the official company history.  I've been meaning to go systematically through the article to check and source facts, but have been putting it off.  Maybe I'll finally do it now.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 15:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: QUESTIONABLE FACTS

message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5O3s4xLB2M the video "Fatal Mistakes" (1999) by Caterpillar mentions Cyprus Amax at 9:35. --Helium4 (talk) 13:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Safety with off-highway trucks in a mine - video 

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