Talk:E-commerce/Archive 1

message: Occasionally people actually advertise their sites here under "examples". Hmm 24.76.141.237 03:07, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertising

message: === Should Not Merge Electronic Commerce with Electronic Business ===
In any good Electronic Commerce/Business book you buy they should set the strict differentiation between E-Commerce and E-Business.  
E-Commerce is trading/paying for goods electronically.  This deals with the relationship between the Business and the Customer.  
E-Business is the business operations themselves.  E-businesses conduct their business functions electronically (supply chain management, inventory, information systems, accounting).
A company may have E-Business and no E-commerce (brick and mortar store with computerized systems).  Though E-commerce usually relies on the E-business backbone for integration with business practices.
Simply put, 
E-Commerce = selling electronically
E-Business = operating electronically
Theres a difference
-G-
IS - B.S.
ICS - M.S.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mind404 (talk • contribs) .
:Your capitalization is a bit odd, but I generally concur.  E-business and e-commerce are two separate things and should not be merged.  --Coolcaesar 03:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: In any good Electronic Commerce/Business book you buy they should set the strict differentiation between E-Commerce and E-Business.  
E-Commerce is trading/paying for goods electronically.  This deals with the relationship between the Business and the Customer.  
E-Business is the business operations themselves.  E-businesses conduct their business functions electronically (supply chain management, inventory, information systems, accounting).
A company may have E-Business and no E-commerce (brick and mortar store with computerized systems).  Though E-commerce usually relies on the E-business backbone for integration with business practices.
Simply put, 
E-Commerce = selling electronically
E-Business = operating electronically
Theres a difference
-G-
IS - B.S.
ICS - M.S.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mind404 (talk • contribs) .
:Your capitalization is a bit odd, but I generally concur.  E-business and e-commerce are two separate things and should not be merged.  --Coolcaesar 03:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Not Merge Electronic Commerce with Electronic Business 

message: Hi, i wrote Web Economy and it got merged into here too. I agree the above point separating of E-Business and E-Commerce.
About Web Economy, the Web itself is still evolving. There are too many terms that decay back in the 90s, limited and unweldy in explaining present web phenomena. We ought to revisit such subjects and introduce a more vitalised wiki that explains Web Economy as a larger social science phenomena based on the likes of K & M-Economy rather than a 'monetary-based' affair.
To explain a case in point, take for instance the phrase 'value-based' and 'services-based' rather than 'product-based' as evolved descriptions of the world economy since the industrial age.
- Red1 D Oon 10:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Should not merge Web-Economy too

message: Mind404 writes "In any good Electronic Commerce/Business book you buy they should set the strict differentiation between E-Commerce and E-Business." Maybe. But any good Electronic Commerce/Business book you buy will also be written a lot better than these articles. Instead of rehashing the contents of Commerce and Business perhaps these pages could begin with the simple ledes like "Electronic commerce is commerce aided by information technology." Ewlyahoocom 06:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: In any good Electronic Commerce/Business book you buy...

message: Applications e.g. SAP do not make a distinction between eCommerce & eBusiness. This is viewed as a single, unified business process in achieving the objectives & missions of a business entity. The distinction between eCommerce & eBusiness is mostly an academic exercise in the business world. So keeping them apart may not make much sense. 
And talking about books, I think the Literature & Reference sections should be merged. Your comments please. Suisse2007 03:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: From an ERP practitioner point of view

message: Could someone please disambiguate Big Brother? Should it be Big Brother (1984) for the cultural reference, or Surveillance for the meaning implied by that reference? Jamoche 06:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother disambiguation 

message: This whole section needs a rewrite. Wikipedia is not an instruction manual or an advice guide - see WP:NOT. Colonies Chris 13:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. What a mess! But I don't have a MBA, so I wouldn't have the first idea about where to start.  --Coolcaesar 03:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Should the section be there at all? It comes across as a tutorial, which I don't think is appropriate for wikipedia, and I don't think any of the information in that section adds anything to the article, as what e-commerce is and what it offers are already covered. --Dan128 19:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I deleted the section per WP:OR, WP:NOT, and it wasn't even really about e-commerce in the first place. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Getting your business on the Web

message: I removed this section. there are millions of entities that could be included in such a list, and it really doesn't add anything of value to the article. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 01:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entities using electronic commerce 

message: The definition of electronic commerce does not align with the definition of electronic business.  It causes lots of confusion.  — HenryLi (Talk) 02:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you please explain further, and perhaps suggest a solution? (feel free to fix it yourself, too) --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While the article of electronic business describes that electronic commerce covers only the revenue aspect of business, the article of electronic commerce describes that electronic commerce does everything like electronic business. — HenryLi (Talk) 13:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: There is still a problem of lack of internet penetration and access to internet. esp. among women in the Middle east. This should be brought to notic. Thanks.--Darrendeng 06:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems 

message: They are not the same, though similar. e-business refers to more strategic focus with an emphasis on the functions that occur using electronic capabilities, while e-commerce to be a subset of an overall e-business strategy. It covers any type of business transaction such as Internet banking, share trading, and other fiscal transactions or buying and selling products electronically. Also, they both cover quite some of applications. Otherwise, make them have not enough room for extension if merge them into one!--Alfeewusy 03:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, eCommerce is a subset of eBusiness.  eCommerce is the process of conducting business commerce transactions over the web.
I would also say not merge. For me e-business covers e.g. design collaboration that is not commerce (buying or selling). If a company makes such links to its partners, I like to refer this to e-business solution instead of e-commerce.Pkotinur 14:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NOT MERGE

message: Just like all other technological advancements, I believe that e-commerce will one day be replaced. Consumers enjoy the convenience and accessibilty that it brings, but the security threats and reliability remain questionable.  It is also important to acknowledge that consumers enjoy the ability to 'try before you buy.'  The clothes shopping business is especially effected by this notion and shops will still see customers coming through their doors.  The security issues with internet based shopping are a massive concern.  Even something as popular as Ebay has experienced threats by gangs trying to get our personal details, as discovered in 2005 by SophosLabs.
137.195.176.11 09:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a discussion forum for speculating on future developments. -- Beland 20:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is E-Commerce running out? 

message: This phrase is used a few times without introduction or definition. A few times the word "retailer" is used in the electronic context. I came to this page with a google search define:e-tail, and apparently this content was merged into the current article. Perhaps a few words in the first paragraph would suffice.
Danchall 14:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Beland 19:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "e-tail"