Talk:Convict era of Western Australia

message: This article did not go through the current GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2b of the GA quality standards. Although references are provided, the citation of sources is essential for verifiability. Most Good Articles use inline citations. I would recommend that this be fixed, to reexamine the article against the GA quality standards, and to submit the article through the nomination process. --RelHistBuff 10:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What am I missing?  2b says: the citation of its sources is essential, and the use of inline citations is desirable, although not mandatory. (my emphasis) The article has properly formatted citations. Inline citations are not going to be appropriate for every article. -- I@n 10:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry if I did not give enough details. The article has sources or references. In my opinion it is a great article and worthy of GA status. However, the citation of those sources is missing and it is considered essential (inline or not). The level of detail is variable, of course, but it is worth the effort to provide the details for purposes of verifiability and avoiding original research. For example, the sentence "Few historians chose to study the era, and some historians actively avoided it." This should be cited (who said that and why?), otherwise it looks like a POV. With the citations, the article should have no problems in passing. RelHistBuff 08:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgive me, but I'm still a bit confused.  The example you gave is a statement of fact rather than a POV.  Few historians chose to study the era which is evidenced by the lack of studies of it.  How is it possible to reference that?  The very next sentence gives an example of an important reference source which has that glaring ommision - is that not a reasonable validation of the claim?  Perhaps you would be kind enough to tag the areas that you feel need inline citations with  tags. -- I@n 08:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delisted GA

message: I evaluated the article based on 7 criteria:
#Well-written: Neutral
#Factually accurate: Pass 
#Broad: Pass 
#Neutrally written: Pass
#Stable: Pass 
#Well-referenced: Fail
#Images: Pass
There are a lot of red links, which, if they were for specific things, would be fine, but for convict ship?  Only a neutral for that though, not enough to fail it.  Referrences are though.  As you said above, in-line cites arent' required.  Almost every GA article there is uses them, but they're not required.  You still have to cite things though.  Just saying that such and such a book is a referrence isn't enough- what page is it on?  What information did you use from that book?  In-line cites not being required is an aesthetic issue, not a content issue- you still need all of that information, even if you choose to display it in a different way.  If you're willing to cite the article correctly, even if you want to do it in a different manner than in-line, send me a message on my talk page- I'll re-evaluate the article immediately, rather than waiting for it to go through GAC again. (Especially since it took almost a month this last time.) --PresN 23:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou for your assesment and thoughtful feedback.  It is most appreciated. -- I@n 01:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GAC

message: check the documents on this site out including this one on convicts in WA http://www.foundingdocs.gov.au/item.asp?sdID=11 Gnangarra 12:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful information 

message: on hold for 7 days, lead does not summarize the article and need more refs and refs need consistent formatting.Sumoeagle179 15:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 3-day extension, lead still doesn't summarize article.Sumoeagle179 21:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA on hold

message: Passed. Good start. More refs and detail would further improve it. Suggest using cite fmt for refs.Sumoeagle179 11:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The wikiproject has this as A-class. No way.Sumoeagle179 11:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA status

message: * "... many years until the colony ceased to have any convicts in its care(?) ..." could perhaps do with a bit of rewriting.  Caution in articles POV, generally, regarding gov't & colonial bias in source documents, etc.  A good art getting better.  Fred 05:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead para

message: Deleted my contributions to this article as I discovered that the Catalpa Rescue already has it's own article, so I bunged it in as a "see also" instead. petedavo 10:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As you wish. It does get a mention in the "End to transportation" section. Hesperian 10:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Catalpa_rescue|Catalpa Rescue]]

message: Will be of interest to someone specifically working on this article, in short it conveys the opposition to female convicts Gnangarra 08:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  source of interest - Female convicts 

message: Why did prisoners receive lashes  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.155.239 (talk) 08:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lashes 

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