Talk:Turco-Persian tradition

message: I have protected the article for three days. Please solve the difference on the talk page, rather than edit war. Locking a particular version is not an enforcement of it. In particular I am worried about blanking of a large citation. Do we need it? If there is a consensus I can editprotect the article `Alex Bakharev (talk) 03:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edit war 

message: The Turko-Persian tradition is a tradition had practiced about 1000 years and almost all dynasties and kingdoms in Iranian plateau, Anatolia and Central Asia as well as many other dynasties in India are involved. It covers 1000 years of history of these countries. Therefore it is simplistic to limit it to only Samanids and Otamans.--Larno Man (talk) 23:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They did not take Iranic culture, rather Iranic culture has been heavily influenced by Arabs and Islam with approximately 40% of Farsi words being Arabic in origin and the great social and cultural impact Islam had on Farsiwan lands (cannot be limited to modern day Iranians). The Turks were simply integrating into a broader Islamic world, and Iran which was Sunni at the time, was simply a part. So many of the influences from both Persia and the Arabs was due to Islam. Also, the Sufis who wrote a lot of texts in Farsi were an important part of this process as Turks essentially came into Islam via Sunni-Sufism. It is a very narrow POV you Iranian nationalists are promoting. Not to mention, the Persians whom the Turks learned Islam from were Sunnis and their concentration is in Central Asia, not modern day Iran. Historynerdboy (talk) 07:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: In English, the correct compound prefix for "Turkish" is "Turco-" (from Latin). This article was obviously created as a pet project by a person unfamiliar with [academic] English. For further insight, see wiktionary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.252.11.111 (talk) 20:10, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title = FAKE 

message: It would be wrong to call this Turco-Persian.  Because this culture among the Turks emerged after the adoption of Islam.  Therefore, a mixture of Arab and Persian culture and Turkic culture was experienced.  For this reason, I think its name should be called "Turco-Islamic tradition".  Please do not make stupid claims. Ulpionz (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: What you think is completely irrelevant. It's what the sources say that matters. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Ulpionz, it was Islamic influence and this article is neglecting the role of Arabs and Arabic culture which heavily influenced Persia. Some estimate that approximately 40% of Persian words are Arabic origin. Arabs and Islam had huge influences on Persian culture and society. Historynerdboy (talk) 07:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change;  Not Turco-Persian but Turco-Islamic 

message: If Wikipedia requires sourced information only, how come this article is allowed to be filled with claims with no citations? The fact that many sentences (a full article) are written before citations are given is suspicious. Is the task here to make the claims then to find any sentence in any book to back it up later? He2020 (talk) 06:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing Encyclopedic Content 

message: The article treats Persian culture as monolithic and ignores all Turkic influence. It also fails to address the Arabic and Islamic influence on Persian culture, which adds to the monolithic perspective of a single Persian culture that has existed since ancient times. Reality shows that Persian culture, language and society has been heavily influenced by Arabs and Islam. Almost 40% of Persian words are Arabic origin, yet this article neglects that as well. It neglects the Greek influence on Persia. It neglects the Turkic influences on Persia and says that Turks gave up everything except their lineage. This is nonsense. Rather, Turks were integrating into a broader Islamic world and Persia was seen as a part of the Islamic world, not as a continuation of Pre-Islamic Persian culture. Historynerdboy (talk) 07:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Very Biased Article