Talk:Pac-Man Championship Edition

message: Okay, finished the basic stuff for the page. Whew. JAF1970 19:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Finished

message: Okay, I just about finished the page (with 2 contributions from SeanMooney), but what the heck are sparks and how do you get them? JAF1970 15:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You hold the analog stick in the direction of the corner before you turn the corner of the maze, and it makes sparks come from Pac-Man. This slightly increases his speed, so you can use this to escape from ghosts that are right behind you. SeanMooney 22:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Just about finished, but what are sparks?

message: This article ought to mention that it was Toru Itawani's final game for Namco, and released right before he announced his retirement. Kouban 13:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. It was mentioned in that Joystiq article as well. JAF1970 15:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iwatani's retirement 

message: Look at the "pear". Is it officially a pear in text somewhere? It's kind of hard to tell. I still can't tell. JAF1970 16:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you referring to the green thing with the "handle" attached?  That's actually a melon - this exact shape is used on MANY Japanese products (candies, sodas, etc) that feature melon flavoring. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Quick addition: The melon is referenced in the Achievements for the 360 release of the original Pac-Man (one of the achievements is to eat the melon - aka reach a certain stage). — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, you convinced me. I changed it a while ago. :p JAF1970 20:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pear, Pineapple or Hand Grenade? 

message: So, in the above archived debate, the subject of "Pac-Man 2" came up as a title, and I mentioned that I was happy with the citation that was put in to support this alternative title.  Later, though, I read through the article and found it actually does not refer to the game as such, and neither do any of the other sources I could find.  I did find comments in forums and the comments section of the Joystiq article saying the game SHOULD have been called Pac-Man 2, but the official title seems to be limited only to Championship Edition.
It may also be worth noting that there is, in fact, another game named Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures - a side-scrolling game loosely based on the cartoon series.  Obviously, I can't speak for the game developers, but I can see why having two related games both called "Pac-Man 2" would be confusing.  That is probably why this one didn't take that title. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 04:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pac-Man 2 

message: Manhattan course: How do the maze patterns shift any more wildly in this course than they do in all the others?  In my opinion, the Manhattan course seems to have the most repititious patterns of all the courses.  I'd say that the patterns change just as wildly in, say, the "Patience and reward" course as they do in the Manhattan course. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maze descriptions 

message: Reopening the Scoring Details discussion: I propose that, in order to apply the guidelines listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines consistently across game articles, the fruit table and other scoring details be removed from this article, Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, etc.  These items are extra details that do not contribute directly to the "encyclopedicness" (is that a word?) of the article.  See Talk:Pac-Man and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines for similar discussions, and please feel free to comment. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have asked for discussion on Talk:Pac-Man as to whether or not we should keep the fruit table there.  The specific list of fruits and their scores is more detail than necessary, IMO, and the article could suffice with a simple mention that there are fruits in the game, and this article can still mention the Galaga and Galaxian drones in prose, without requiring a full list. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 08:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scoring Details discussion

message: *Remove (KieferSkunk): Unnecessary level of detail not needed in order for a casual reader to understand the game.  Information is covered on StrategyWiki or similar sub-wiki. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arguments For/Against

message: Fruit tables are present in Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, etc. This has been established. Furthermore, new fruit has been included (ie. Galaga Drone). That differentiates it from other Pac games. It does not impart any "strategy", etc. It's just plain old information, the same type of information you'll find in card, board, and other video game articles. If you remove this, remove all like information from other pages first. JAF1970 23:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have asked for discussion on Talk:Pac-Man as to whether or not we should keep the fruit table there.  The specific list of fruits and their scores is more detail than necessary, IMO, and the article could suffice with a simple mention that there are fruits in the game, and this article can still mention the Galaga and Galaxian drones in prose, without requiring a full list. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 08:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reasons for fruit inclusion

message: I suggest that, since there are a fair number of modes and very unique reception to the original game, it be split. It would allow for it to grow and for it to not feel like slapped onto the original game's article. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:18, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, so I have split off the DX content to Pac-Man Championship Edition DX. Missing some references for reception, so if someone could add those that would be nice.TheFreeloader (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split and expand DX version