Talk:List of Trigun characters

message: Yo people, it took me a while to make Vash, Wolfwood, and Legato articles, and so far i have a feeling that they aren't enough. If you guys have more info on this articles, especially Concept, Creation, Personality, & Reception, please post them. I'm also planning in making Original Soundtrack, Knives and Gasback articles, need some support though.
I made these articles because i got pissed that other Anime and Manga articles are so well made, while Trigun is there sitting on the bench, if there are some people out there who share my ideas, let's go help each other.--Godzilladude123 (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Need Articles

message: Right, I've quickly merged the manga-characters-tree and anime-characters tree, there are obviously quite a few things still to do here, feel free to strike items off the list below if you do them. --zippedmartin 01:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: This section is poorly written. The formatting does not match that of the other characters.
There is mention of how he is different in the manga and the anime, but then there is no elaboration. It also says that he goes over to Vash's way of thinking twice. It sounds repetative.
I would change it around a little, but I think that someone else would be better fit to do it.
:Wolfwod's section does deserve a little (more?) work. In the episode "Paradise" it's mentioned that Wolfwood is working for Knives protecting Vash, ostensibly for money in order to support his orphanage. I may be making some changes once I get it forumalated how to incorporate them. As a note, I have not read the manga, so I'll only be making changes to the anime section.---Puff (talk) 03:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolfwood 

message: I've had to edit up grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors that look as if they were made by people with little to no education at all. Look, Wikipedia is not your personal messageboard. At the very least, capitalize proper names and the first word of each new sentence, use a period at the end of each sentence, and check your spelling.
As for rumors, either don't post them until they're verified, or clearly label them as speculation and not fact. Also, there are some rumors that have been unequivocally shot down: for example, there is NO "hospital scene" with Knives at the end of the anime. Vash isn't secretly female. Posting things like these that are false and proven as such only tanks our credibility.
millyfan 09:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar, spelling, punctuation, and rumors 

message: Yeah, images of the characters is fine under fair use policy. Not to mention I've seen other anime character listings (Full Metal Alchemist is the main one that comes to mind) use character images without explicit permission. They're under the fair use as well, I'd assume.
Speaking of pictures I uploaded a better pic of Vash on the front page. It should be fair-use. AgentSmith15 05:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re - Pictures 

message: This article needs to list both the Japanese and English voice actors.  There aren't nearly as many voice actors in this field as you'd think (particularly when it comes to English translations) and so it's often illuminating and interesting to be able to see what disparate characters from multiple anime are all voiced by the same person.  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 08:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alrighty, someone put in the English voice actors, so I finally motivated myself to go through and put in the Japanese ones. I'm surprised that there weren't any edit conflicts, considering how long it took me to do, and how often this article is edited. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find Kuroneko-sama's seiyuu, not even in the "Trigun the 2nd Donut *Happy Pack*" CD insert. Meh. -- Rablari Dash 06:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs voice actors 

message: I've seen various anime pages edited to change "senpai" or "sempai" and vice-versa.  Are they the same thing?  I know "r" and "l" are equivalent in Japanese but is it the same for "m" and "n"?  Wikipedia seems to prefer senpai, as sempai is just a link to it, so unless someone can give me some sort of reason I'll change occurrences of "sempai" to "senpai" where I see 'em.
Also, in all of the fansubs I've seen it's always written as "senpai".  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 20:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a romanization issue. The kana 'ん' has been romanized under various systems as either n or m, sometimes depending on what letter immediately follows it. The same is not true for the な and ま lines, they are 'na' and 'ma', respectively. Anyway, according to WP:MOS-JA, the Wikipedia standard is to romanize ん as n, except when it's ambiguous (followed by a vowel or y, in which case it could be confused with な, にゃ, etc.) in which it should be romanized n'. Also, if the official romanization uses m, or if it is more common to romanize it as m, then it might be a good idea to use m in that instance, rather than n. Following these guidelines, 'senpai' would be correct. -- Rablari Dash 02:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senpai or sempai? 

message: What's with this "Many speculate" thing on Kuroneko-sama being a reincarnation of Rem? That's the first I've ever heard that, and a Google search produced not a single page that mentions that rumor (besides this one). I would say that "many" is not the correct word to use in this situation.
However, I've seen it suggested that Kuroneko-sama is actually Legato, which is ridiculous, but shows how out of control rumors can get.
I think we'd actually have to be able to ask Nightow about this one.
I personally believe the most obvious: Kuroneko-sama is a joke meant to appear in every episode, hence hir appearance in episode 17, which seems to defeat the rumor.
I've always thought that Kuroneko-sama represented the passive God observing his creations without directing their affairs (through design or impotence), based on the theory that Trigun is a retelling of the life Christ. BethEnd 18:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuroneko Rem? 

message: The Kuroneko-sama section says this: "Also, after Vash kills Legato late in the series, Kuroneko scratches him (the only violent interaction Kuroneko takes against Vash in the series); perhaps this is Rem's way of rebuking his decision."
Later on, in the Millions Knives section, there's this: "At the end of the anime, Vash and Knives finally meet and have one last epic duel, in which Vash wins and carries Knives off, probably to try and change his perspective (and to Meryl and Milly). In Japan, there is an extra scene that was at the end of the last episode of Vash taking Knives to the hospital."
: Are you perhaps confusing Knives with Legato here? Vash didn't kill Knives, but he did kill Legato (in the anime at least).  Dizzy D 20:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vash didn't kill Legato 

message: I've had to edit up grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors that look as if they were made by people with little to no education at all. Look, Wikipedia is not your personal messageboard. At the very least, capitalize proper names and the first word of each new sentence, use a period at the end of each sentence, and check your spelling.
As for rumors, either don't post them until they're verified, or clearly label them as speculation and not fact. Also, there are some rumors that have been unequivocally shot down: for example, there is NO "hospital scene" with Knives at the end of the anime. Vash isn't secretly female. Posting things like these that are false and proven as such only tanks our credibility.
millyfan 09:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar, spelling, punctuation, and rumors 

message: "Valentinez Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla Blue Stradivari Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus George Doitzel Kaiser the Third, a unique alias he presented to Wolfwood a little ways into the anime"
IIRC, when Wolfwood asks Vash who he really is, Vash replies with "My name's irrelevant." This was in Japanese with English subtitles. a thing 07:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vash's real name? 

message: I know it is in the anime, but has the manga-version Vash's arm grafted to him as well? Dizzy D 10:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Legato's arm

message: Shouldn't something be said of Vash's ability to redirect bullets. The whole gun turnament he kept people from being killed, so it isn't just him dodging, plus when it shows where bullets land behind him there's usually an outline around where he is. Hackwrench 05:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirecting bullets 

message: This really isn't wiki related, I just had to say this... who names a child Knives? I mean really, who in their right mind names a kid Knives, and then expects him NOT to be a homicidal maniac? Whoever named him (I'm talking in the context of the series, not the writer) must have been an absolute moron. I mean KNIVES!? The only thing knives are good for is stabbing/cutting into things, as everyone knows. By nature it's a device used to slice things. Bah, villains with villainous names... that's like naming a child Jeeves and expecting him not to be a buttler. Lol, really though, they might as well have named him "Stabby McGee". --Venomaru 18:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, it's one of those many things that mangaka don't usually bother thinking about in advance... But yeah, whoever named Knives (presumably Rem, since she took care of them from pretty early on, didn't she?) either was prescient, or made a really bad mistake. Or maybe she named Vash, and Steve named Knives ^_~ Really though, I imagine Nightow just gave the characters names that fit their adult selves, and didn't bother to rethink things when he decided to discuss their childhood. Probably would have been a good idea to give Knives a different name as a child, and say that he renamed himself Knives when he decided to go on his extinction spree. -- Rablari Dash 05:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knives Name... 

message: Recently, I posted an article on the manga-only character, William Conrad.  It is now gone.
I understand that not every minor character can be allowed to remain on the page.  However, Doctor Conrad is a very important character in the manga, as anyone who read the article would know.  
Deleting a very thorough and well-thought-out article on a fairly important character, simply because it is new, bespeaks less a desire for neatness and more an irrational fear and hatred of new information.
I will now repost it, with warning brackets.  Please refrain from removing it.
:: Should be noted that Vasquez is not manga only character. He plays role although rather small and mainly of screen in anime. In episode Lost July amongst other crimes he is wanted for is mentioned "murder of count Lebant Vasques" also in episode 26 vash is seeking survivors (similar way as in manga) with conection to Rem he finds "Revnunt Buskus"( mistranslation from Japanese?) who is killed by Knives before Vash reach him to cut any ties with past.Edgarss 12:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Character Post

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kuroneko-sama.jpg

message: "Some American fans of the series that dislike pronouncing her name have given her the name of Doughnuts. An obvious reference to Vash's love for doughnuts. It is also seems that her name translates to "Black Cat" though whether its a pun is not known."
Is this really necessary, especially without citation?  The other sections of the article are speculation which don't need proof behind them, but this refers to a factual contingent of fans that use an alternative nickname.  No proof is given that an appreciably large enough section of fans uses it to warrant its addition to the character article and the reasoning behind the name makes it almost sound like one person's preference was snuck into there.
Additionally, the line "also seems that her name translates to 'Black Cat'" is both inaccurate and extraneous as the translation is given immediately after the name.  I think this selection should be deleted.
Pylze (talk) 01:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *I edited the section for more readability.  It's still entirely without sources and has opinions, but this isn't really mainstream information.  Pylze (talk) 23:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuroneko-sama 

message: please delete the speculation parts or i will delete,it this is a violation to the rule Wikipedia:NotabilityGrimmjow E6 (talk) 00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuroneko-sama (cat) 

message: These don't really assert any notability. Two of them have a bit, but the sources are pretty "eh." If they have to be included, they can probably be placed here. TTN (talk) 23:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What the hell is your problem? I spent ages several months back try to cite and reference Vash and Wolfwood using out of universe reception and you go ahead and merge it without PROPER discussion or talking it over? You really annoy me. I bet you'll be saying next that the information I got for some of the FMA articles aren't good enough. I demand the articles get put back.. RedEyesMetal (talk) 17:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: How can it be written that Vash killed no one in July City in the Anime version? He does kill everyone except that one little girl survives and attempts to kill him later in her life specifically because he killed her family and everyone else she knew.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.143.228 (talk) 20:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "The city was so badly destroyed, and yet no one was killed." Episode 6 "Lost July" approximately 16 minutes in. The subsequent scenes show survivors. However, we are also told that the rampant crime following the city's destruction lead to the deaths of many.---Puff (talk) 03:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  July City Massacre 

message: I think it's important to note that Vash and Knives are not plants in the "tree" sense, but in the "factory" sense, as they are sentient versions of the giant, lightbulb-like plants that produce water and food for the humans. 69.177.225.173 (talk) 20:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Anime is not explicit about what a plant is, beyond the explanation given in "Lost July" that they are "Systems which can achieve production beyond all theoretical law." Other episodes as well as the manga imply that plants do have an organic origin, and the manga suggests that humans were performing experiments on plants. However theories abound as to what plants actually are and there is no concrete explanation. I've heard everything from evolved humans to extra-dimensional extraterrestrials. I do believe a section which describes plants and some of the more prevalent theories about them would be a good idea, though it might go as a subsection of the Plot section in the Trigun article. It's so hard to find any information on plants in a consolidated form.---Puff (talk) 03:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Plants

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