Talk:Catalan Republic

message: On page 24 of the recently infamous outcome of the constitutional process against Catalan politics it states:
Proven Facts: 
"1.- As of 8th September 2017, official catalan government's bulletin núm. 7451-A published the Law of Catlan's Parlament 20/2017,
of juridic transitoriety and fundational of the Republic. That norm, integrated by 89 articles and three final conclusions, includes unilateral proclamations of 
rupture with the current constitutional system. It was presented as a superior norm of the catalan juridical order, until when new Republic's constitution was approved. It proclamed thatCatalonia is constituted by a Republic of law, democratic and social, in which sovereignty of the catalan territory was declared as composed by the territorial space, included the undergroung, corresponding to its geographical and adminsitrative preexisting limits, by the territorial see, included its ground and undersea and by the aerial espace placed over territorial espace and territorial seas of Catalonia"
 
 https://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/pdf/7/9/1571135685597.pdf?_ga=2.260757325.175344844.1571268775-1030253749.1552175496  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.61.108.100 (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independence declaration was de iure according to recent Spansih Constitutional court, so at least, we should consider the independence lasted 4 days until repealing of the law by spanish cnstitutional court on 12th september 

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message: I just want to say that if it is possible to add information about the Independence Declaration of Republic of Catalonia on 10 October 2017.
Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.24.96.246 (talk) 21:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  2017 Independence Declaration 

message: Protected page. Please discuss changes here.Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  addition of poorly sourced material 

message: The article as it was was disorganised, and didn't relate to any one discrete topic. I have split it off into four separate articles, and made this a disambiguation page. All of the content has been copied to one or more of the four articles, except
#The infobox: It had stuff in it about all four republics, and I wasn't savvy enough to know how to fill many of the fields in the individual articles. The infobox is  if anyone wants to attempt it.
#The following, which doesn't belong in any of the four articles:
:;Junctures of independence or segregation from Spain or France
* 988: The count of Barcelona Borrell II denies the vassalage of the Catalan counties to the French king Hugh Capet.Borrell II de Barcelona, enciclopèdia.cat, 04-09-2013
* 1712: Proposal of creation of a Catalan Republic under the protection of the United Kingdom.Catalans' Case, enciclopèdia.cat, 03-01-2014
* 1793: During the War of the Pyrenees between Spain and the First French Republic, some French leaders proposed the creation of a Catalan Republic twinned with France, as the other Sister Republics created with the breakthrough of the French revolutionary army.Coll i Alentorn, Miquel. Història, ed. L'Abadia de Montserrat, 1992, vol. 2
* 1810–1812: Napoleon I makes Catalonia independent under French control.
* 1812–1814: Catalonia is annexed to France by Napoleon.
I don't know what should be done with this.  Scolaire (talk) 17:40, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a disambiguation page per WP:DABCONGEO; I have made it a set index, since the meanings are not unrelated (every meaning of "Catalan Republic" is some kind of "Republic" that is "Catalan". bd2412 T 03:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

text: If a Catalan Republic is declared this year, would a new article be created, following the new approach to the previous entities? Culloty82 (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I would guess that it would, and it would then be added to this list.  Scolaire (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're welcome . :) Now I'm focused to increase the information of these short-lived republics. About the last item, in my point of view the best we can do is to modify the current page of Catalonia instead to create another page (if this proclamation is successful, of course). --Jacobí (talk) 17:08, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

text: The official declaration has now been passed by the Catalan Parliament. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41780116 Culloty82 (talk) 13:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:     I think that a new article (in the form of Catalan Republic (2017) or whatever) would be the best course of action here, instead of bringing a potential edit warring over the Catalonia article. That would also allow for a more in-depth description of events, instead of trying to work them into the Catalonia article (which refers mostly to the geographical region, rather than the political entity per se). Also since Article 155 seems about to be enforced and all of this may quickly turn into a 1934-like scenario. Impru20 (talk) 13:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, as we now have a declaration of independene, I suggest the least problematic course of action is to have a new article on Catalan Republic (2017). PatGallacher (talk) 14:19, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I figured that would happen. I'm neutral on the subject. I'm not interested in Wikipedia articles that properly belong on Wikinews. I got involved in the referendum article for a while but I gave it up. It's a quagmire, and has very little chance of being a proper encyclopaedia article any time in the next few years. If the Republic one is created, it can go in here, and the "See also" can be taken out. That'll be the limit of my involvement.  Scolaire (talk) 14:28, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making this a disambiguation page 

message: The page Catalan Republic was moved to  by , a new user with less than 30 edits, without any prior discussion. He then edited  so that this talk page could not be moved back. Does anybody know what needs to be done to return this page to its correct address?  Scolaire (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests.  --Scolaire (talk) 15:49, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks .  --Scolaire (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move