Talk:Arvid Harnack

message: Harnack probably was at the DHfP first, the Deutsche Hochschule für Politik (see german Wikip.), founded in 1920 as a privat university (and pre-33 very left leaning), which the Nazis later put under control of the state. In 1940 it was made a part of Berlin University, (not yet in 1935 ---the linked website from the DHM simply got things mixed up here). Albrecht Haushofer taught at the DHfP from 1933, was made professor at  Berlin University in '40. Auslandswissenschaften means foreign affairs, but was very reduced in Nazi times. 
---The linked DHM website says that Harnack was working full time at the ministry for economics in 1935.--Radh (talk) 10:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Berlin University 

message: Also about arplan 
#Danyel, Jürgen: Zwischen Nation und Sozialismus: Genese, Selbstverständnis und ordnungspolitische Vorstellungen der Widerstandsgruppe um Arvid Harnack und Harro Schulze- Boysen, in: Peter Steinbach, Johannes Tuchel (Hrsg.), Widerstand gegen den Nationalsozialismus, Bonn: Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung, 1994. Schriftenreihe Band 323. Seiten 468- 487.
This seems to have been not a reprint, but the original publication.
Danyel, (p. 473) singles out: Emil Lederer, Alfred Meusel, Otto Hoetzsch, Klaus Mehnert for the side of Political Science and Eastern Europe Studies, and Lukács, Hermann Dunker and Wittfogel for the left and then the national-revolutionaries and national-bolschewiki Ernst Niekisch, Hans Ebeling. Danyel calls the Graf Ernst von Reventlov and Ernst Jünger conservative members of the group, which is a bit strange, Jünger' s Arbeiter from this period is a quasi-fascist text (in the italian, or even a private, Jüngerian style). 
Travels of the ARPLAN group in Russian from August, 20. to Sept. 12. were to Moscow, Leningrad, Odessa, Kiew and the Dnjepr region. (Danyl, p. 482)--Radh (talk) 09:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arplan 

message: This article has various inconsistencies regarding their deaths with the page on Mildred Harnack. This page states that the location of their bodies is unknown, and implies they were both hanged. The page on Mildred Harnack states that the location of her burial is known & that she was beheaded. VenomousConcept (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi  I'm updating both these articles at the moment. There will be inconsistencies as a lot of the sources rely on archives, so you end up having sources varying as a tag, put in the article. I work hard to try and identify the correct dates and when thing happens. But sometimes it doesn't work out. When writing about these folk who dealt in espionage and spying, its like the man who wasn't there, scenario. They may be there, but they are not, or they are somewhere else. It continually shifts all the time, as its reflect the work, many folk had different views of what they did, but it was actually in fact, a facade meant to deceive and sometimes that is what you find, it is all a facade. The facts around Mildred Harnack should be more fact based, as she was at very edge of it and they're certainly many decent sources, but for Arvid, I've already found several inconsistencies and source don't match up. It becomes supposition and it can't go in. Hope that helps.   scope_creepTalk 19:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies  

message: Trips to the United States in 1937 and 1939 would follow, during which Harnack unsuccessfully tried to create a basis of communication with Washington.  scope_creepTalk 17:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep for later

message: p.100 Brysac. Why Harnack went to America.  scope_creepTalk 23:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo

message: "He and his American-born wife, Mildred Harnack, were executed by the Nazi regime in 1942."
Mildred Harnack was executed on 16th February 1943, as stated in the Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Harnack
JF42 (talk) 10:24, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies II 

message: Could you explain your reasoning to describe him as a Nazi advocate? Based on the article, it is pretty clear that he is someone who is fighting against Nazism. Some excerpts:  or   
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It is pretty evident that he is against Nazi. Thank you and have a good day. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 07:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resistance or Nazi advocate?