Talk:Swift Vets and POWs for Truth/Archive 2

message: I read an article on a Chinese newspaper published on August 27 concerning an advertisement published August 26, regarding someone looking for info on a Swift Boat mission. Jim Rassmann, the person who countered SBVT charges, is personally involved with this. (It was not mentioned whether who else is involved.)
I posted a summary of the article under a new section. Also, since it is a Chinese newspaper in North America (so the article is in Chinese) and there is no online version of the article (I read it in paper). It may not be vertifiable in google. SYSS Mouse 03:29, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there is a concrete link to SBVT, I don't think this has any relevance - just because Rassman is involved, doesn't mean SBVT is. This should go in, if anywhere, in a Rassman entry. -khaosworks 05:18, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: agree.  btw that's the date of the Bronze Star incident Wolfman 05:29, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  related "truth" 

message: In the last week, calls for President Bush to denounce the ads have stirred up more controversy over SBVT's ads.  I'm wondering if something like this deserves its own subheading in the controversy section since because one could consider it to be a new dimension to the controversy.  Or, should this idea be injected somewhere else like the "Connection wiht the Bush Campaign" section.
:Currently, the only ad controversy reference is the McCain thing under 'Truthfulness'.  It doesn't really belong there.  Nor does it really merit its own section.  I'd suggest putting it under 'Connections', as Kerry is basically implying this is a Bush plot (he calls them a "front group").  My only concern is that we not imply it is an proven connection by putting it there.  It's just the most logical section to put it in.  Wolfman 17:34, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  SBVT ads and the Bush campaign 

message: Presumably, this article will become easier to edit after the 2004 presidential election when, (regardless of outcome), the POV contributors who are simply trying to influence a political contest will stop caring. AdmN 19:18, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a wonderfully snarky comment coming from someone who has not yet even attempted a single edit on the page. If you've got a problem with the page, try fixing it at least once before taking a cheapshot at the rest of us who are actually working on it. Wolfman 19:46, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: No problem.  I clearly took it the wrong way.  It has been contentious around here, and I'm a bit on edge.  My apologies. Wolfman 20:12, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  perhaps real editing may begin on Nov. 5 

message: What are we doing to address the uncontested allegations against Kerry on this? See this link 
Rex071404 17:43, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue is discussed here. Is there some important fact you think is missing from the present write-up? Here is the companion article to your link. Wolfman 17:51, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas in Cambodia 

message: Most vets have heard of SBVT - see link Rex071404 01:44, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do Vets say? 

message: Including this revert against Nysus, Wolfman has more than violated the "3-revert rule".
Part of what he deleted against Nysus is this:
"SBVT's claims about the incident are primarily based on the account of retired Rear Admiral William Schachte , formerly Acting Judge Advocate General of the Navy. Schachte is not a member of the SBVT, but has said he admires them as "men that are willing to stand up and put up with what they've been putting up with just to tell the truth – of what they know to be the truth." He originally declined to be interviewed for the SBVT book, but after the controversy erupted he said that he realized he had a duty to "step up and be heard" as a matter of personal honor. He did not appear in a SBVT ad, but told his story in a television interview with Lisa Myers of NBC News  and a print interview with Robert Novak.  Shachte has said his only motive was "to tell the truth". However, critics have noted that he was a contributor to the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign, and also donated to Bush as a primary candidate in 2000."
Rex071404 04:35, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, Nysus didn't write that. It was an anonymous IP, 63.224.35.238, Besides, shouldn't that person be the one who should be complaining instead of you? -khaosworks 04:37, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Mine was a fairly minor edit.  I removed the word "only." --Nysus 04:39, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolfman has reverted SBVT 5 times this evening