Talk:Benjamin Butler

message: "Lincoln appointed him the first major general of U.S. Volunteers, ranking from May 16, 1861."
John A. Dix was also appointed major general U.S.V. on May 16, 1861.
: I'll have to check my sources, but this isn't necessarily a contradiction. Multiple men can be promoted on the same day, but the order of the names on the list establishes seniority. Hal Jespersen 15:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First MG?

message: I once read a biography that was generally exculpatory of Bulter, called Lincoln's Scapegoat General. As best I recall, it claimed that Butler was set up to be knocked down by Lincoln in both New Orleans and at Petersburg. Is this still a legitimate view of Butler?
: That is certainly not the mainstream view. Butler's results in N.O. are directly related to his own conduct; what did Lincoln do to affect it? As for Petersburg, by which I suppose you mean Bermuda Hundred, Grant didn't want Butler in command and Lincoln forced him to take him. Doesn't seem likely that Lincon wanted a failure at that point in his reelection campaign. Hal Jespersen 17:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curious about this.. 

message: This article says that Butler refused to return fugative slaves, arguing that they were "contraband", and thus able to be seized. Given his role as a Radical-Republican congressman, and his support for the Civil Rights Act of 1871 and especially for the Civil Rights Act of 1875, it seems reasonable to assume that this anti-slavery figure was simply trying (1) to get around the Fugative Slave Act and (2) to use all available labor in order to beat the slave-holding South, (after all, white notherners were drafted en masse. Is this assumption correct? If you're a Butler specialist, please address this. If no one steps forward, I'll add something to the article to this effect. --Zantastik talk 04:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it seems that I've answered my own question -- see Contraband (American Civil War). --Zantastik talk 04:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: A recent book provides detail. I added a couple of sentences to the Fort Monroe part of the article. Oaklandguy (talk) 06:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I hadn't spotted the mention of "contraband" because it wasn't until the end of the section on Fort Monroe. So I will undo my own edit and confine myself to adding the Oakes book as a reference. Oaklandguy (talk) 06:44, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

text: In Louisiana, the existing article relies on John Winters's book of 1963, re slaves. The Oakes book (2013) has a detailed discussion of what Butler did and didn't do, and why. I haven't revised the article here; I haven't seen the Winters book; but I suppose major revision should be made. Oaklandguy (talk) 07:11, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contraband 

message: In Butler's political biography, he was a Democrat before the war, a Republican in Congress during the 60s and 70s, and then, by 1878, a Democrat again.  The second party switch is not explained in the article -- anyone have any background? --Jfruh (talk) 21:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Party switch? 

message: According to all evidence including: "...his administration of occupied New Orleans...his ineffectual leadership in the Bermuda Hundred Campaign, and the fiasco of Fort Fisher...one of the most controversial "political generals" of the war..." he was certainly not kept around because he was "...an able but erratic administrator and soldier." None of his war record shows any measure of even closely resembling an "able soldier." Possibly a semi-able administrator but I think that may even be stretching it. But by no accounts may he be considered in any way an "able soldier." Possibly one of the union's most inept generals of the war. I am therefore removing the title of "able soldier" if no one has any objections. Historiocality 03:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies 

message: I reverted an edit that indicated Butler had been offered, and turned down, the opportunity to run as Lincoln's VP in 1864.  While Butler and/or Cameron may have later claimed that this happened, I am unaware of any major biographer of Lincoln that accepts this as likely.  In any event, a solid source other than a website should be used if there is an attempt to add this information back.  There is room in the article for more sourced info on Butler in relation to the 1864 election. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 03:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Butler as VP in 1864

message: Moved photos to talk page. Replaced by updated photos. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved photos 

message: Why? Also why no mentioned that he was relieved of duty for ordering the creation of the medal to honor members of the United States Colored Troops who served valiantly in the Battle of New Market Heights? Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 01:12, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: No mention of the [[Butler Medal]]?

message: Substituted at 21:35, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: I'd like to confirm the general here is the Benjamin F. Butler who acquired ranch property on Huerfano River in Pueblo County, Colorado, in 1882.  Butler House (Pueblo, Colorado) (if that is a redlink, see Draft:Butler House (Pueblo, Colorado)) is listed on the U.S. National Register but its nomination document is not 100 percent clear.  The current article on the general does mention investment in Colorado, but a specific confirmation about this property would be appreciated. --Doncram (talk) 00:51, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the association is clearly established in the NRHP nomination document for the site, linked from article now.  A webpage of History Colorado was not clear enough for me before.  By the way, the NRHP document asserts this is the only Colorado property associated with Butler, and that he lived there for a period. --Doncram (talk) 23:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colorado association; [[Butler House (Pueblo, Colorado)]]?