Talk:Anglo-Celtic

message: I've removed this paragraph:
The term has lately fallen into disrepute and is now scorned by Celtic Revivalists (see Modern Celts) in Australia and the US who wish to distinguish themselves as a separate group from the English and the cult of Anglo Saxonism, which they view as a hostile and colonizing force.
It seems grossly POV and is completely unsourced. TharkunColl 23:20, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  It was highly POV.  It is also not true.  The term is not scorned, albeit only by a few.  There are so many groups with viewpoints on any topic.  I see no reason to include this one viewpoint which is very marginal and ill-educated.  Even the term 'Cult of Anglo Saxonism' implies a thinking of England and English people that is outdated and anglophobic, and extremely wharped.  Best to avoid this kookiness. Enzedbrit 12:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I also removed the rest of the article as it was 1/ just plain wrong, 2/ very anti-English and also slightly anti-American, 3/ very subjective and 4/ showed complete ignorance with the term Anglo-Saxon and lacked intelligent opinion; it was based largely on personal prejudice than fact. Enzedbrit 12:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

text: If we are going to do an article on the topic, lets do it right.  I think we can do this under the broad banner of "British Australian", since I doubt there are many second plus generation Australians of exclusively Celtic only or Scottish only or English only etc. extraction.  It is uncommon for an Australian-born (or even a British-born and Australian-raised) British-Australian to identify themselves as anything but Australian.  Indeed the term "British Australian" sounds invented (although it is more accurate but less widely used than "Anglo Australian").  Kransky 16:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anglo Saxonism influenced?

message: I have removed the following:
This ethnic-cultural category is rejected by many people of mainly Irish, Welsh or Scottish ancestry, who identify themselves solely with their own Celtic way of life and outlook as opposed to the mostly Germanic culture of the English. This is particularly true in Europe, where mixing between both groups as been less complete than in Australia and North America, and where English culture is still perceived as foreign by many people of Celtic background (especially in Western Wales, the Republic of Ireland and the Scottish Highlands). Anglo-Celticism is thus seen by many people as just another attempt to deconstruct and assimilate Celtic culture into the dominant English culture.
On what was this based?  On which facts?  Where is the proof that this is used predominately by people of 'Irish, Welsh or Scottish' ancestory?  This has been posted to be anti-English bias.  The bulk of it about 'Germanic English culture', foreign culture in 'Celtic lands', etc., is fanciful and not based on truth.  Enzedbrit 19:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Paragraph

message: There seems to have been (an undocumented) dispute regarding the paragraph on the Celts in England and their lasting influence. I don't know who is right, but it is important to present referencable claims from historians as claims and avoid using weasel words, such as 'they would have it'. I have therefore made the following few changes: replaced 'a minority of' with 'some' (as there is no evidence given of the relative sizes of the groups holding these opposing opinions), replaced 'they would have it' with 'they claim' (removal of weasel words), inserted an 'entirely' in the 'not wiped out' sentence and inserted an extra 'they claim' into the sentence starting 'Further'. Pconlon 11:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of Weasel Words

message: A further reference from an Irish Unionist source has been added. Pconlon 16:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition

message: The references in this section are inadequate. One points to a book on Amazon, another, written in Dutch, to a list of uni courses and another to a publication demonstrating a variation of the term is merely the personal preference of a single author. The whole section adds very little. Van Speijk (talk) 21:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They were exceedingly poor references in my opinion. I've added a better (and more extensive) one. I think use of the term in this sense is noteworthy though. --RA (talk) 21:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglo-Celtic Isles 

message: of the controversial term "British Isles" (which can be substituted by the term 'Anglo-Celtic Isles'). - Not a fan of this wording at all. It sounds ungrammatical and clunky (and grammar/sentence structure is certainly not my strong point - reading very much is however!), and this article is not about the controversy over the term "British Isles". I am not a fan of the term myself as I consider it inherently tainted, however I am not interested in pushing any sort of POV on this page. Wikipedia policy seems to be against removing the term "British Isles". Any suggestions to improve? Because this is one hot potato I would like to handle with care...--Julius R.S (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I see it's been removed. Probably for the best! --Julius R.S (talk) 13:47, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording... 

message: Substituted at 07:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: The concept is mainly relevant outside of Great Britain and Ireland, particularly in Australia but also in Canada, the United States, New Zealand, and South Africa, where a significant diaspora is located. 
I have never heard this term used in the United States.  I definitely question its "relevancy" in this country. 108.254.160.23 (talk) 03:15, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: @108.254.160.23 we use this term in Australia because we don't want to be lumped in with dominant British ideology- as a Mick I do not agree with many dominant Protestant/Anglican ideals- more of a Chartist/Fenian/social-democrat/trot my grandmother was a Scott- loyalist and hated my old man's family because they where Mics- now we live in a sun-burt country I cannot deny those old world sectarian ideals-- I hate being called anglo-saxon- I'm obviously noeman 49.183.120.163 (talk) 14:38, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Relevant . . . in the United States"