Talk:Frank Kelso

message: Noticing that he had more ribbons in the picture than awards mentioned in the article, I set about reconciling them. It seemed at first that the pic has a strange color balance, such that some of the ribbons did not match well against the graphics in the WP articles for those decorations. This seems to be partially true – gold-colored bands show as white in the picture, perhaps because they are partially metallic and more reflective than the ribbon material around them. Make sense?
Others, though, like the Legion of Merit, point out that our article's graphic (:File:Legion of Merit ribbon.svg) may well be wrong, too. Looking at the Institute of Heraldry description, that ribbon is supposed to be crimson. I've mentioned that at .
So, here are the best matches I can come up with, based on our docs, the IoH site, and the ribbon checker, in the positions shown in the pic:
                   	                              	Submarine Warfare insignia         	Submarine Warfare insignia      	                             	 
                   	Defense Distinguished Service Medal	Defense Distinguished Service Medal	Navy Distinguished Service Medal	Navy Distinguished Service Medal  	 
Legion of Merit         	Legion of Merit                    	Meritorious Service Medal          	Meritorious Service Medal       	Navy Commendation Medal           	Navy Commendation Medal
Navy Achievement Medal  	Navy Achievement Medal             	Navy Unit Commendation             	Navy Unit Commendation          	Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation	Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation
Navy Expeditionary Medal	Navy Expeditionary Medal           	National Defense Service Medal     	National Defense Service Medal  	Sea Service                       	Sea Service
                   	                              	SSBN Deterrent Patrol insignia     	SSBN Deterrent Patrol insignia  	                             	 
                   	                              	Joint Chiefs of Staff badge        	Joint Chiefs of Staff badge     	                             	 
 Not pictured. Probably awarded late in career – after the 1993 picture.
Look right? Any problems with adding these additional awards to the list in the article? They are supported by the picture, which is official. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: While I concur with your interpretation of what the photo shows, I'm not so sure I would count on the photo itself as a reliable source. It may not show some of his awards (e.g. Defense Distinguished Service Medal) so this would certainly not be a source for those, and it's always possible we could be misinterpreting something. Though I certainly would not accuse him of it, there is also a disturbing and well-documented trend of military officers assuming awards which they were never officially given, in order to further distinguish their career. I've seen a few such notable cases chronicled in Army Times in the past few years. For these reasons, I would stick to print sources for anything more than photo captioning. That's my 2¢ anyway. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards and decorations