Talk:John Munch

message: Questions:
* what is known of Munch's fictional biography from his TV show episodes?
* what about continuity?
* relationships between producers, writers, of different shows containing Munch?
* who "owns" the fictional character of Munch?
-- The Anome 09:09, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
:It's hard to tell as the two conflict. It's best just to let individuals decide. Although for me reading this over I personally side most with the history of him presented in Homicide. Mostly because that's the origin of the character and he had a greater role on that show. However I'm also the type who still thinks of Frasier as the only son of two scientists. Best to let readers decide on their own.--T. Anthony 13:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: With regard to ownership, presumably whoever owns the show Homicide originally owned the character.  -- Beardo 04:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I've heard it pronounced both ways, and I think both are correct.  For me, saying "pātronize" means to frequent an establishment while "pătronize" means to be degrading to someone.  Just my two cents. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 11:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A follow-up...In one of the first episodes of Season 4 (forgot which one), Munch is having a conversation with Howard in which he says "pātronize".  Howard replies, using the same term in the same context and pronounces it "pătronize".  When Munch responds to her reply, he uses the term yet again, and again says "pātronize".  So apparently somewhere between season 4 of Homicide and season 1 of SVU, Munch learned the proper pronunciation for that context of the word.  BTW, I notice little things like this because I have no life.  Grammaticus Repairo 05:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions 

message: http://www.munchology.com is either dead or not up yet, anyone know for sure?
Kirbyrocks 05:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: I saw the SVU episode last night in which Munch confronts Amy Solwey (Marlee Matlin) about the possibility of her buying a black market kidney.  She and Munch apparently had some fairly deep connection that I wasn't aware of; can someone elaborate on this for the article?   Willbyr 18:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw the previous episode "Painless" where they become close. Amy wants to commit suicide by refusing dialysis and refusing a kidney transplant so she won't spend the rest of her life in jail. Munch reveals that his father committed suicide, and he blamed himself. The episode ends with it seeming like he convinced her that it's worth it to live. -JNighthawk 06:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Amy Solwey (sp?)

message: Ok, maybe not really a plot hole, per se, but if Munch is Jewish (he is) then why would he have the name John? John is a Christian name. The Jewish equivalent would be Jon (Jonathan). Ideas?  --Cao Wei 06:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because, remarkably, people are allowed to name their children whatever they want without going to their clergyman/MP for approval and spelling corrections. --Switch 08:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sarcasm noted. I asked my mom, she said that Dick Wolf messed up. I'll tend to believe her. Cao Wei 04:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't - Dick Wolf didn't create the character. The creator of Homicide: Life on the Street, whose name escapes me at this moment (Nick something?), did. Perhaps he messed up, or perhaps again he didn't care. Perhaps Munch's father wasn't Jewish, and he named him. Perhaps Munch changed his name to affirm his lack of religion. There are any number of possible explanations. --Switch 05:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Paul Attanasio and Tom Fontana are the creators of Homicide. It was executive produced by Barry Levinson. Jewish men named John include John Rubinstein and John Stossel.--T. Anthony 05:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since Levinson is Jewish, I doubt that this is an error. -- Beardo 19:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

text: According to John (name), John and Jonathan are two separate names, both deriving from different Jewish names. Also, it says that John has gone back into "Israeli Hebrew as the name שון Shon". -- Beardo 20:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot hole

message: Anyone know where to get a screencap of this? I'd love to see what his puppet looks like. --82.9.43.195 12:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I assumed Belzer provided the voicce, though I have never seen the episode. If not, then it should probably be removed, yes. --Switch 12:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's on YouTube; search for "Special Letters Unit". And yeah, I think the character just added another show.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdiamante (talk • contribs) 19:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sesame Street Munch

message: I'm removing the phrase He is known as the universal cop for televison.  Not only is this unsupported, but it's weasel-y.  Known by whom?  If it is intended to refer to his many appearances in other shows, that's covered in its own section.  SixFourThree (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Universal Cop

message: (Coincidentally, Belzer's father also killed himself.)
:Really?  This is just a coincidence?  Considering that Munch, at least as originally conceived on Homicide, was basically just a cipher for Belzer, it seems quite likely that this was not a coincidence at all. We certainly shouldn't imply that it was one unless we can provide some support for that statement. john k (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coincidentally? 

message: The thing that makes John Munch my favourite SVU charater is his love for civil liberties (He hates the patriot act, and consistently makes comments about due process and civil liberties). In the most recent episode there was even a civil liberties lawyer where they had a conversation about civil liberties. 
I am not an expert enough to be the one to make a section on it, but it certainly is deserving of one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.201.84 (talk) 02:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civil Liberties 

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message: The table in the article is SVU only episode appearances, a complementary table for Homicide is needed -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 01:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode appearances table