Talk:Suspenders

message: The link for mark twains patent doesn't work.
:The following, very long sequence, is the correct URL to an image page of Mark Twain's patent:
:http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=00121992&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3D0121992.PN.%2526OS%3DPN%2F0121992%2526RS%3DPN%2F0121992&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page
:The invention is called "Improvement in Adjustable and Detachable Straps for Gentlemen"; which, however, at least insofar as the illustration is a true and faithful representation of the device, far more resembles an extendible belt than any sort of trouser-braces.
:Twain is referenced as Inventor under his own name Samuel L Clemens.
:Nuttyskin 01:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Replaced the double reference to 
de:Strapse
because Strapse is Garters, where it is already referred to 80.133.16.49 10:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garter / Suspenders 

message: This article now muddles up two meanings of garter:
* the American word, which means suspenders in British and Commonwealth English
* the British word, which means a band worn to keep a sock or stocking up
It is tricky to sort this out, because of the alterations made to the article on garters.  I have contacted the editor who made these changes, but had no response.  Can anyone sort it out easily, or do we need admin assistance to roll back the changes to both articles?--Taxwoman 12:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I really don't understand why the two articles have been merged. Safedom 14:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed tag 

message: I realize that most, if not all, suspenders made or worn these days are elastic in some part, but is this truly a necessary characteristic? I'm no expert (or even student; this is purely logic, hence my careful steps) but would think that, for most of their history, suspenders involved adjustable fabric -- via clips, pins, etc. -- instead of elastic to achieve the proper fit. Anyone object to my change? Czrisher 17:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elasticized? Who says? 

message: See Talk:Garter (stockings)#British English. Opera hat (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differing terminology 

message: The present illustration is particularly distressing to the British idea of what to wear. Not only are the braces fake (clip-ons masquerading as proper button-on braces), but the trousers have belt-loops (why, if you're wearing braces?) and the shirt not only has a pocket on the front but has a button-down collar as well. Can't somebody find a more suitable picture, please? Opera hat (talk) 00:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The shirt has button cuffs, too, but I suppose that is a matter for personal preference rather than a full-blown sartorial gaffe as with the points mentioned above. Opera hat (talk) 00:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Do you know the expression "belt and suspenders"?  It means to take extra care, perhaps too much care. --Una Smith (talk) 22:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Does anybody outside of Britain really care about "the British idea of what to wear?"  Doubtful. 68.101.143.168 (talk) 00:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustration 

message: What about these Bavarian braces, worn on Lederhosen and also on other traditional clothing?  --Una Smith (talk) 22:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bavarian 

message: I found the article nearly consumed by multiple and lengthy portions of pure advertisement, primarily by two companies.  I have reverted the article to remove this vandalism.  The article should be watched in the future to ensure this does not happen again.  24.252.200.64 (talk) 04:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't help but think, is this an Albert Thurston advertisement?  I see nothing wrong with including references if the company does, indeed, have a long history in manufacturing suspenders, but the puffery and extremely subjective language along with the awkward insertions don't even pretend to belong in an objective article.  I can't imagine a skilled PR professional would bumble through like that, but I digress.  I'm new and not entirely sure how to revert changes, etc., but are there editors more skilled who might address that? Alanus mercator (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize this is from a while ago, and probably no-one will read this, but I think he's referring to this, which talks about "Sal Herman" and his "No-slip suspender clip".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserJDalek (talk • contribs) 02:34, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising 

message: Sounds like this was written by someone who really, really wants the world to think that suspenders are still in style. Can someone make it a little less suspender-fanboyish? 68.101.143.168 (talk) 00:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Came looking for the names of the different types of suspenders. But have done the res myself
https://www.swaggerandswoon.com/guides/braces.php
The Y type has 2 straps at the front that join together on the mid back and then a SINGLE STRAP GOES DOWN FROM THE JOIN TO THE (damn caps lock) waistband.
 The X type has two straps on the waistband both fron and rear, and join on the back.
4 clip and 3 clip are other names  for the 2 sorts.
203.7.99.17 (talk) 04:47, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  types of suspenders: Y and ? 

message: There is way too much written about TV shows in the "Fashion" section. While some pop cultural references may be appropriate, the section is more focused on television, than actual contemporary or historical fashion. In fact, the section is especially niche "fandom" style shows, which are extremely unlikely to drive trends due to the lower cultural cache of their viewers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:59F:F6C4:1D7F:28:DFA2:B85D (talk) 04:47, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous TV section 

message: Just another of the millions of articles on Wikipedia where American English takes precedent, because Americans don't realise that practically every English speaking country of the world, use British English. 
Americans are in a minority when it comes to the English language, therefore British English which is spoken all over the world, should be the priority language on Wikipedia. The same goes for the titles and names of things like films, TV shows, books, games, foods, brands etc, as every country in the world apart from the USA, will know that product as one thing, but the Americans will still insist on using their minority, renamed title.
However as we can clearly see from the 2 recent requests, "Americans refuse to be corrected," just like they always do!
Danstarr69 (talk)
I came here looking for the idiom "belt and braces" (as in having both for an excessive level of backup and redundancy), a phrase which gets used a lot more in real life than actual braces (or suspenders), but unfortunately the article fails to address it. 
As for the British English versus American argument lets look at the trends https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22belt%20and%20braces%22,%22belt%20and%20suspenders%22 and see if we can look at it objectively. -- 109.79.187.52 (talk) 14:45, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Braces 

message: As a seasoned British wearer, I find the claim that button-end suspenders are hard to find in the UK difficult to accept. Of course, very few wear suspenders over here at all, but they can be obtained with not a whole lot more difficulty than the clip-on kind.
I refer to the first paragraph in "usage".
 Daedalus 96 (talk) 14:40, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Button-end suspenders in the UK