Talk:Dubai/Archive 1

message: According to the Barnabas Fund,a UK based organisation which aims to protect the human rights of Christians in Muslim majority countries,the Dubai Supreme Court recently decided to remove the right of appeal against deportation concerning `religious crimes`.These `crimes` include trying to convert Muslims to another religion.
andycjp.8/4/04
From memory,the relevant web address is barnabasfund.org/news/archive/UAE...but although this is about the same case I read the above info in non web material.I believe the transgression of the UN declaration is pretty clear.andycjp9/4/04
Uhh, when I went to the page, I got a 403 forbidden error. WhisperToMe 15:35, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Human rights

message: The flag needs to be sorted out, at the moment, it looks like a white and red flag, but it's not.  I don't know how to adjust the borders etc. though.--Prisonblues 09:31, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

message: the statistic that the oil revenue only accounts for 5% of dubai's GDP is surely incorrect, the cia world factbook lists the united arab emirates as: "The UAE has an open economy with a high per capita income and a sizable annual trade surplus. Its wealth is based on oil and gas output (about 30% of GDP)", even though this is the entire UAE's GDP it seems unlikely that the 5% figure is correct.
the statistic that the oil revenue only makes up 5% of the GDP seems very very far fetched. evidence anyone?
The Dubai Media City site says it is 10%, but still might be low.
The Dubai Media City site mentions 10%.
According to Oil and Gas Journal (1/1/05), the UAE contains proven crude oil reserves of 97.8 billion barrels, or slightly less than 8 percent of the world total. Abu Dhabi holds 94 percent of this amount, or about 92.2 billion barrels. Dubai contains an estimated 4.0 billion barrels, followed by Sharjah and Ras al-Khaimah, with 1.5 billion and 100 million barrels of oil, respectively.
 In recent years, the UAE has undertaken several projects to diversify its economy and to reduce its dependence on oil and natural gas revenues. The non-oil sectors of the UAE's economy presently contribute around 70 percent of the UAE's total GDP, and about 30 perecnt of its total exports. Not sure it specifies Dubai any further; I havne't read it closely, though. http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/uae.html  El_C 03:44, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Oil revenue statistics

message: What about Dubai's Dry Docks and oil support industry? {22nd November 2004}
How about a mention of Mina Jebel Ali, which is (I believe) the third largest trading port in the world in terms of trade volume (dollars, not tons)?
I made a couple of minor edits (e.g. the spelling of Baniyas) as I'm sitting in Dubai right at the moment, but I have to say to whomever the author is that this is a very accurate article over all based on my experience here.variable 06:35, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  i want persone which live in abu dubai 

message: I tried to clarify the bit about religion, as Islam is not the only 'recognized' religion in DXB, it is however the only state funded/supported religion, etc., etc.
otherwise no one would be allowed a liquor license
:The situation is that it is even prohibited by law to proselytise. In newspaper there is almost never a word of the churches, however the pope seems to be recognised. I think I have read in the local media that some people get a fine or jail sentence because they have done proselytisis (spelling?). The churches are mainly used by Filopinos. 
:: "Mainly Filipinos" indeed! There's a huge church-going community in Dubai, and there are separate masses given in English, Tagalog, Arabic, Tamil, Sinhalese, Urdu and French.
Abu Dhabi has 5 churches. If you interested you can search the local newspaper under . Other religions than thew islam are not supported at all because they are the "wrong" religions. Here's is anectode from my time there: There were a lot of lights and decoration on all buildings for the holiday of founding the UAE on the 2nd Dec. Normaly the people are lazy in the matter of removing the decoration. But suddenly on the 23rd of Dec everything has been quickly removed so that nobody can say, "Hey, they also celebrate christmas!". Happened in the emirate of Abu Dhabi. 
::Interesting, but have you taken a look at the malls in Dubai around Christmas? Lights, trees, and dressed up Santas as well. Incidentally, these decorations remain for some time after Christmas Day is over, meaning that malls in Dubai at that time will be more Christmassy that in America.
:The movie "Passion Christs" was shown with the sign "uncensored" despite showing saints like Jesus is against islam. The main purpose that the film was shown is to hit the jews.
:Regarding the liquor licence: It is restricted to the emirate it is issued. And in Sharjah alcohol is completely banned for ~20 years already. The limit is 1000 AED for purchases per month and the license costs 20% of the limit, i. e. for 1000 AED limit it is 200 AED issue fee. It must me renewed yearly and a minumum income of appr. 4000 AED (no fix figure, depends on the mood of the public servant) is required. 
:I have written a lot on the German version of the UAE in Wikipedia.
:PS. please sign with -~~~~. Thanks
:-ThorstenS 09:09, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: i've never really heard of any of the rulers being referred to as an "emir" this seems to be some propegated myth that comes about in touristy type books.
in 15 years of living here, the most common term has been "sheikh"
Have a look to the following articles maybe this gives you an explaination: Shaikh, Emir. Shaikh sounds maybe better or the local people have a negative opinion of the word Emir? -Toshi 07:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: So what's the conclusion? This is an article about an emirate, not the UAE, so if you say "the ruler of an emirate is a emir" why do you then "call them Sheikh not Emir"? I reckon nobody disagrees that the ruler of the UAE is not called 'emir', but what about the ruler of Dubai (or Abu Dhabi or Sharjah or ...)? (It's not in the article anymore anyway, but I'm curious.) -- H005 09:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  emir? 

message: If it is in fact true that Dubai contains 16% of the world's cranes as stated near the end of the article, could we see a citation? That kind of figure does warrant some justification. --AnthonyA7 07:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  16% of World's Cranes? 

message: I just reorganized much of the article, trying to put things into standard subtopics such as History, Economics, Geography, etc. This reveals massive redundancy in the article, which needs to be cut away. Even if the article is streamlined, it's getting pretty long; someone might consider creating separate articles for Culture of Dubai, Transportation in Dubai, History of Dubai, etc. It could also use some mention of Physical geography (elevation, climate, etc.) Joshuardavis 21:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorg on 6 Mar 2006 

message: How about a separate page about all those recent building projects that are going on in Dubai? (Burj Dubai, Palm Islands, The World, Waterfront, Dubai Land, Al Burj, Metro, Falcon City of Wonders...) Would be nice to have all those projects talked about in one place. Peter S. 23:29, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, solved. Looks like :Category:Proposed buildings and structures in Dubai fits pretty well. Peter S. 23:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split off "building projects" page?