Talk:Geert Wilders

message: This should be included in the article (at the end of "Views about Islam"):
http://geertwilders.nl/index.php/in-de-media-mainmenu-74/nieuws-mainmenu-114/1839-let-us-raise-a-flag-of-truth-and-liberation
http://www.jpost.com/International/Saudi-Arabia-incensed-over-anti-Islam-campaign-by-far-right-Dutch-politico-352548  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.75.84.99 (talk) 18:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilders-Saudi-Flag "Islam is Poison" 

message: After removing a dubious external link earlier today I started looking at the remainder and I am troubled by some of them. The last three links on the list are, in my opinion, not suitable for a neutral encyclopaedic article. They all seem to me to be in contravenetion of What to link and should be removed.--Kalsermar (talk) 20:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: How about the end of the Geert Wilders trial for the "In the News" section of the main page? Polozooza (talk) 10:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is there now. --Kslotte (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news 

message: I think it is wrong and potentially confusing to our readers to put the moniker "Indo" in the opening sentence. His heritage is mentioned more than once in the article but Geert Wilders is known as a Dutch politician, not Indo-Dutch. It would be akin to identifying JFK, Ronald Reagan or Tip O'Neill for example as Irish-American and not simply as American.--Kalsermar (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed someone who wrote down "Indonesian-Dutch", which is incorrect. Indo is the corrept term - someone of Eurasian (European-Asian) admixture, more specific, in this case: Dutch-Indonesian descent. So I changed Indonesian-Dutch in Indo-Dutch, which is correct. Wilders' mother was of Indo(nesian) descent. I see no harm in keeping it this way. Polozooza (talk) 19:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say it was incorrect, merely that it is out of place in the opening sentence. His heritage is amply discussed in the article.--Kalsermar (talk) 21:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Hirsi Al is not a very smart example to bring on here, she was born in Somalia from Somalian parents. But then Wilders: his Indo background is not a widely acknowledged fact, as we can gather from the NRC article that is used as a reference: "In June a genealogist said he had found several Indonesian ancestors of the populist Dutch politician", "The 6-page article reveals that Wilders' grandmother, Johanna Ording-Meijer, came from an old Jewish-Indonesian family". But even if supported by more sources than that one genealogist, first, we're talking about a far background here and second, I think Kalsermar rightly says it's out of place in the opening line, where we don't read words like 'agnostic', 'ex-Catholic', 'controversial', either. Only the very basic facts belong there.  Apdency (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no way that should be in the opening of the lede like that - I have doubts if it is more than the opinion of one person and doesn't belong in the article at all. We neveer (or at least almost never - unless it is highly notable) put ethnicity in the lede like that - its as per WP:mos nationality, this is even more so when it is disputed or partial as is the case here. Off2riorob (talk) 19:43, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You got it completely right: we're dealing with someone's personal opinion here: "I want Wilders to be an Indo". If anyone dares to go against that, he labels it as vandalism, as we can see here. Wilders in no way belongs in a gallery of 'notable Indos'. Apdency (talk) 17:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indo 

message: It is very unusual to have a section completely dedicated to someone else's opinions on the subject of a biography. Should there be a separate section for every notable person's opinions of Geert Wilders? I do not think you will see this in any other biography in Wikipedia. Surely, this information should be integrated into the Public reception section. NereusAJ (talk) 02:39, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a source for that? Mythic Writerlord (talk) 19:30, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Frits Bolkestein's views on Geert Wilders" section

message: In the introduction, change
:"and leader of the Party for Freedom (Partij voor de Vrijheid – PVV)"
to
:"and the founder and leader of the Party for Freedom (Partij voor de Vrijheid – PVV)"
i.e. add the phrase "and the founder"—Thanks in advance.  67.101.7.175 (talk) 20:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, thanks. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 19:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The founder 

message: Please change
===" See also "===
* Criticism of multiculturalism
* List of Dutch politicians
* Multiculturalism in the Netherlands
* Philo-Semitism
to
==="Works"===
* Marked for Death: Islam's War Against the West and Me, Regnery Publishing (May 1, 2012), 
i.e. add the section Works with the title and publisher and release date and ISBN of his new book, thanks in advance.--87.163.232.152 (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: I added the “works” section, but there doesn't seem to be a reason for removing “see also”. --Six words (talk) 22:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Marked for Death: Islam's War Against the West and Me

message: * Marked for Death: Islam's War Against the West and Me, Regnery Publishing (May 1, 2012), 
i.e. add the section Works with the title and publisher and release date and ISBN of his new book, thanks in advance.--87.163.232.152 (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: I added the “works” section, but there doesn't seem to be a reason for removing “see also”. --Six words (talk) 22:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Works"

message: Here is a better one:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/uk-norway-killer-idUKTRE76M1OJ20110723
--77.125.82.29 (talk) 08:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Geert Wilders made a public announcement on his party's website: http://www.pvv.nl/index.php/component/content/article/36-geert-wilders/4529-verklaring-geert-wilders-noorwegen.html. It is Dutch written. HidingMyIP (talk) 01:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: A Better Source Needed for Note #86

message: Henk and Ingrid is unlikely to ever get much bigger, as it's essentially just a political WP:DICDEF. I propose merging to Geert Wilders#Political principles, where they already get a one-sentence mention, to which we can add their description and function as a Dutch Average Joe. --BDD (talk) 01:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done AIRcorn (talk) 11:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: This article has changed quite a bit since it was passed . The prose does not currently meet the GA standards. Too many short sentences and two much news ticker (in July 2011, on 2 October 2011 etc) type sentences. It needs a good copy edit. AIRcorn (talk) 11:21, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status 

message: Hi.  In the background section it claims: "Wilders has acquired nicknames such as "Mozart" and "Captain Peroxide" because of his flamboyant platinum blond hairstyle."  However, follow the link to the BBC report that gives this quote its citation and nowhere will one find the claim that Wilders has acquired the nickname "Captain Peroxide."  Shouldn't this oversight require a  inserted into the body of this article until the proper citation is given or the claim is removed?  Otherwise, it remains a spurious and unsubstantiated claim which if left unaddressed will detract from this otherwise rather factual article.  Thanks114.158.149.78 (talk) 05:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Beware of aging or aged male politicians with blond hair. Sca (talk) 16:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source makes no mention of "Captain Peroxide": Citation Needed 

message: Could someone verify this?
http://saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130422162428  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.43.27 (talk) 12:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Incorrect. Wilders has not converted. That page speaks about Arnoud van Doorn who has - indeed - converted to islam. It is incorrectly stated that Van Doorn is a "leader" of the Freedom Party; in fact, he was only a member of the city council of The Hague for two years. Never a national politician. He was then expelt from the Freedom Party for mismanagement of party funds of the Freedom Party's local The Hague chapter. Van Doorns conversion to islam took place a few months ago, a few years after his expulsion from the Freedom Party.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 13:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilders converts to Islam? 

message: Could someone who is Dutch-speaking create an audiofile with the correct pronunciation of Geert Wilders? /Marxmax (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that the pronunciation would actually vary by dialect. Some dialects more or less merge /ɣ/ with /x/, others keep them distinct. This is particularly noticeable when /ɣ/ is in a word-initial position. 2600:8805:A801:B600:6AC4:389B:97DD:8E91 (talk) 18:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutch pronunciation 

message: New section after section "Wilders and Germany" suggested:
: Not done for now: While you have found some reliable sources to add this content, I'm afraid I'm unable to add it to the article.  It seems that you've mostly just copied and pasted text from http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/problems_with_poles_report_the.php and http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE8191ML20120210.  We take copyright violations very seriously here on the English Wikipedia.  Please make modifications to have this text in your own words (using the same sources is fine as long as it is not copy and paste) and reopen this request.  Thank you for your interest in editing Wikipedia! —  (e • t • c) 16:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2014 - New section after "Wilders and Germany" (Wilders, Poland and other Central and East European countries) 

message: In 2012 the Wilders's PVV party has launched a website named Reporting Centre on Central and East Europeans which receives complaints about Central and East European immigrants in the Netherlands. 'Do you have problems with people from Central and Eastern Europe? Have you lost your job to a Pole, a Bulgarian, a Romanian or another East European? We want to know,' the website states. It displays newspaper headlines such as 'Wouldn't it be better if you went back home?' and 'East Europeans, increasingly criminal'. The European Commission has condemned the website, and EU Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding declared, "We call on all citizens of the Netherlands not to join in this intolerance. Citizens should instead clearly state on the PVV's website that Europe is a place of freedom.""Problems with Poles? Report them to us, says new PVV website". DutchNews.nl. 8 February 2012."Dutch allow Wilders' anti-Pole website, EU critical". Reuters. 10 February 2012. The website caused a lot of controversy within the European Union."" Sofiaecho.com 16 February 2012.
89.74.37.251 (talk) 16:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilders, Poland and other Central and East European countries 

message: Geert Wilders is not a populist, this is an opinion and the sentence is politically biased against him. The first sentence in this article needs to be changed accordingly.
He needs to be described as a Dutch politician not a Dutch populist politician.
Repsaj1 (talk) 12:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Never heard of the fellow but he is described as "a populist politician" in the first line of the Huffington Post article about him, as well as in 3 other cited sources. --Xiaphias (talk) 08:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Repsaj1. Ben-Natan (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2014 Geert Wilders is not a populist, this is an opinion. The first sentence in this article needs to be changed accordingly. 

message: There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages. 
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion. 
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion|Request for Comments]] 

message: Maybe information about this attack should be added. – Editør (talk) 11:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, if it turns out that the attack was b/c of him being there and not simply directed at the anti-Islam group as a whole. In any case, we'll have to wait for more details to come out.--TMCk (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attack in Garland, Texas 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The English translation of Wilders asking the audience whether they'd like more or *fewer* moroccans, is embarrassingly incorrectly written as "more or *less*". 
Skipgilles (talk) 13:57, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: If the audience were shouting "Less, Less" after then it would be obvious that "More or less" would've been used here  –Davey2010Talk 14:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nevertheless, Skipgilles is right. Oh wikipedia, land of now-nothing policemen!137.205.101.122 (talk) 11:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2016 

message: Tataral made a series of edits that I partially reverted. These are the reasons: First of all, the label of "far-right" is not universally accepted by all reliable sources. As it's explained in lead, other observers reject this term for Wilders. In 2010 a research by the Tilburg Institute for Social Policy Research and Consultancy (IVA) of Tilburg University  studied the Freedom Party and concluded that a number of radical right views persisted, but that the party did not belong to the traditional "far right" (extreem-rechts), Retrieved 29 May 2012 Afshin Ellian, a professor of Social Cohesion, Citizenship and Multiculturalism at Leiden University, and known islam-critic, rejected even the "radical right" label for the PVV  Therefore I see unnecessary and POV to include this term in the first sentence as undisputed when it's already mentioned in the proper manner (that's why I moved down the New York Times source with the rest of the sources calling him "far right"). Second, I see this category as problematic because, although he was convicted for "hate speech" by a court, no actual penalty was imposed, and it's very POV to call him "criminal" for that, specially when so many of his criminal trials ended in acquittal. Third, this line clearly doesn't belong, since the case of "hate speech" in December 2016 is too minor to include it in WP:lead and trials are already mentioned elsewhere in the article, in the proper section. The lead is supposed to be "a summary of its most important contents, not a news-style lead or lede paragraph." Fourth, I removed this category because it seemed unsourced. I checked the sources related to his position on Israel. Even though he's an advocate for Israel, not a single source uses the label "Zionist."--Ghangoun (talk) 12:32, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Editors should not use Wikipedia to unduly push a point. Johnuniq (talk) 00:31, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

text: The description as far-right is universally accepted by mainstream, high quality reliable sources. It's clearly relevant and clearly supported by RS, and needs to be in the lead. Wikipedia is not the place to promote WP:FRINGE and extremist views. --Tataral (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

text: I notice now that the editor who started this discussion and who revert-warred to remove the correct description as far-right, User:Ghangoun, has been indefinitely blocked per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Delotrooladoo. I'm therefore reinstating, per WP:EVADE, this sourced description that was removed by the indefinitely blocked and disruptive Delotrooladoo sockpuppet. --Tataral (talk) 14:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit surprised to hear the Telegraph, Afshin Ellian and the Tilburgse onderzoeksinstituut IVA being called  "WP:FRINGE and extremist". Moreover, the fact that a user was blocked, does not mean the argument is invalid. You claim this is supported by "by mainstream, high quality reliable sources" (plural) so please cited those. Kleuske (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Under WP:EVADE, edits by a block-evading user can be undone by any editor and without any other reason, so it's clearly relevant that the edit was made by the sockpuppet (which was blocked shortly thereafter) of a blocked user. Furthermore, your demand that I "please [cite]" reliable sources, when the article already cited The New York Times which clearly supported the description is clearly without any merits, and for this reason I will reinstate the edit that was reverted by the blocked user Ghangoun. If it is a question of whether sufficiently many reliable sources support the description, I could easily cite 100, 200, 500, a thousand or more reliable sources supporting it, but it wouldn't be necessary or helpful for this article to cite that many sources for this widely accepted and uncontroversial fact. --Tataral (talk) 10:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Who's arguing WP:EVADE? Unless you think I'm somehow evading a block, the point is moot. What isn't moot is that sources are being cited who state otherwise. Actual dutch sources instead of transatlantic assesments. You claim you could "easily cite 100, 200, 500, a thousand or more reliable sources supporting it", then please do. Hyperbolic assertions are no substitute for an actual cite. It doesn't have to be in the article, just list them here. What I know is that the VVD (Rutte) announced it wouldn't cooperate with Wilders because many of his proposed policies are too left wing. Kleuske (talk) 11:06, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:EVADE]] edits by blocked user Ghangoun 

message: 92.77.65.108 (talk) 12:28, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sir Joseph (talk) 14:57, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2017 

message: Is there any rationale behind not capitalizing "The" in "The Netherlands"?
I live there and as far as I know I live in De Nederlanden.
Thanks. Barbara Touburg (talk) 20:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The policy on Wikipedia is to use the spelling that is most commonly used in English (see WP:ENGLISH). In normal English usage "the" in "the Netherlands" is not capitalized, and Wikipedia simply follows that convention. - Lindert (talk) 20:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: O. Dank je wel! Barbara Touburg (talk) 20:18, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Netherlands 

message: The Dutch far right’s election donors are almost exclusively American. While Europe has been busy fretting about Russian meddling in its politics, a few Americans have been quietly doing their part to boost the continent’s far right. (David Horowitz Freedom Center, J.A. de Keizer and Chris Rufer is the founder of The Morning Star Company) Source: https://qz.com/928684/the-dutch-far-rights-election-donors-are-almost-exclusively-american - --87.159.127.72 (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO, the existing note on the article for the PVV suffices (my understanding is that the donations pertain primarily to donations to the party... albeit to cover Wilders's legal costs). Mélencron (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the PVV is a one-man show, isn't it? The PVV only has one official member, Geert Wilders himself! Wilders entered Dutch politics as a member of the conservative People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), but left the party after his increased criticism had marginalized his position within the parliamentary faction. After a short period in the Second Chamber as the “Group Wilders” (a group of one), he founded the PVV - which still operates as part of the Foundation Group Wilders, with one sole member... Geert Wilders. --87.156.235.67 (talk) 14:11, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —MRD2014 📞 contribs 14:59, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the [[United States]] 

message: I think the profile picture photo should be changed. It's patently obvious that an unflattering picture of him with his eyes shut was chosen deliberately in order to demean him. He might well be the Dutch Prime Minister shortly. Change the picture. I am certain the Freedom Party will supply an acceptable alternative.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martan32 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New profile picture photo 

message: The entry claims, in section 4.3, that "Wilders lived in Israel for two years during his youth". Wilders may claim that too, but this is not uncontroversial, and probably false. According to the the Hebrew entry for Wilders (https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%98_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%A1), he lived in Tomer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomer), which is an Israeli settlement in the Jordan Valley, part of the occupied West Bank, rather than Israel itself. This is not a trivial difference, and it aught to be highlighted. Please amend the claim appropriately to state that "Wilders lived in an Israeli settlement in the occupied West Bank for two years during his youth". 95.96.55.228 (talk) 16:37, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Wikipedia should not be used to cite itself. Please provide reliable, third-party sources to support the changes you want made. Topher385 (talk) 01:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2017 

message: The label of "far-right" is not universally accepted by all reliable sources. As explained in lead, other observers reject this term for Wilders. In 2010 a research by the Tilburg Institute for Social Policy Research and Consultancy (IVA) of Tilburg University  studied the Freedom Party and concluded that a number of radical right views persisted, but that the party did not belong to the traditional "far right" (extreem-rechts), Retrieved 29 May 2012 Afshin Ellian, a professor of Social Cohesion, Citizenship and Multiculturalism at Leiden University, and known islam-critic, rejected even the "radical right" label for the PVV  Therefore I see unnecessary and POV to include this term in the first sentence as undisputed when it's already mentioned in the proper manner.--Oxbird (talk) 03:58, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fine with the lede in its current state. Mélencron (talk) 04:04, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Um,  the fact that he is far-right has been reliably sourced with 8 references. There is consensus among reliable sources that Wilders is far-right; he is seldom mentioned without this descriptor in English language sources (far-right Dutch sources don't count). Only far-right individuals themselves deny it; it is telling that the low-quality sources you cite include a letter to the editor written by an anti-immigration writer who is considered  to write "anti-Islamic rant[s]" according to his Wikipedia bioography. Just like we don't portray fringe views on climate science as equally valid as the scientific consensus, it is blatantly POV to disregard the consensus among reliable sources to create a WP:FALSEBALANCE by portraying the far-right fringe's views on Wilders as equally valid as the consensus among reliable sources. --Tataral (talk) 09:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As I can see, you have three reliable sources rejecting he's far-right, and four sources supporting the label. There's nothing "fringe" here. Also bear in mind this article falls into WP:BLP.--Oxbird (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: First removing several of the references claiming "excessive citation-ing", then complaining about there only being four references? Classic. Apart from that, the consensus among reliable sources is not measured by simply counting the references included in the lead in this way, and as if they are equally representative or have the same weight, and one letter to the editor from a far-right guy does not equal an article in The New York Times. --Tataral (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You're meant to be attacking me, not Oxbird, when you object to my removal of citations. In any case, this seems to be standard practice for describing right-wing populist politicians on Wikipedia – there isn't a need to note it immediately in the lede. Look at pretty much any politician's article on Wikipedia, and you'll find that the first sentence simply describes that they're a politician and usually their party affiliation – but not any ideological label, which usually comes later. Undue importance to note it that early in the lede. Mélencron (talk) 00:23, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not standard practice to exclude the descriptor from articles on politicians universally considered to be far-right by reliable sources – and this has been reliably sourced in the case of Wilders. Udo Voigt and countless other articles mention the term in the first sentence. The removal is blatant POV pushing. --Tataral (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't use the Daily Mail as a source for a BLP, that's been decided. We also should not use letters to the editor in a BLP, that's also not acceptable. I'd also question using old sources to discuss someone's current politics but that's not a policy issue (I think). Doug Weller talk 10:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Striking edits by a sock who is part of a huge recurrent sock farm. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Delotrooladoo.
I've looked at a few of the sources for the Far-Right claim, but those articles seem to call him that only in the title of the articles. Jarkeld (talk) 01:43, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

text: That isn't an argument that Wilders isn't far-right through (which he plainly is). The only dispute here is the placement of this descriptor within the article. Mélencron (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources cited should confirm that, but just mentioning it in title and not supporting that in the article itself does not make those RS's for that claim. Jarkeld (talk) 01:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

text: I looked at several Wilders articles in other languages and for the most part the lede does not mention the (far) right bit. They mention it in the appropriate Political views section (or equivalent). The same goes for other Right oriented politicians on Enwiki. Jarkeld (talk) 01:58, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far-right? 

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message: 39.41.49.170 (talk) 04:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. EclipseDude (talk) 05:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2018 

message: Geert Wilders has converted to islam 217.33.217.6 (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2019 

message: On Geert_Wilders#Death_threats, add this:-
;2022 Muhammad remarks controversy
Wilders received death threats, namely from Al-Qaeda, after he supported Indian politician Nupur Sharma's comments on Muhammad that caused controversy. Wilders replied to the threats on Twitter that "My message to them is: go to hell. You have no morals. We stand for the truth. We stand for freedom."https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/prophet-remark-row-dutch-mp-geert-wilders-gets-death-threat-for-supporting-nupur-sharma-1959896-2022-06-08https://www.firstpost.com/world/dutch-mp-geert-wilders-gets-death-threats-from-muslims-for-supporting-nupur-sharma-over-her-prophet-muhammad-remarks-10775711.html
 122.170.33.2 (talk) 17:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: . Added a subsection to the article, see Geert Wilders#2022 BJP Muhammad remarks controversy. Thanks for your help! Baggaet (talk) 06:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2022 

message: > Wilders rejects being labeled as far-right and views himself as a right-wing liberal, while saying he does not want to be "linked with the wrong rightist fascist groups". More recently, however, Wilders worked together with Marine Le Pen of the French National Front in
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Is the Frech National Front a 'wrong rightist facist group' ? I would suggest removing the 'however' since it the National Front is not facist (I think) and the article makes it seem that way Sjobenrit (talk) 08:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''however?'' ->French National Front a 'wrong rightist facist group'? 

message: Geert Wilders is listed under the category: "Dutch Political Philosophers."
He has not written any works of philosophy nor received a degree in the subject and as such should not be under the category. 2600:4040:9A3C:D500:1C9B:FDC6:358E:387 (talk) 23:57, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he's not. A political rhetorician and demagogue is not automatically a philosopher, at least not in the modern sense, without some of the qualifications above. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:55, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Philosopher 

message: https://ethnicelebs.com/geert-wilders he does have ancestors born in indonesia but they dont seem to be Indonesian but Dutch people who immigrated there, should it be changed? GlobalReference221 (talk) 15:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity 

message: I don't have sufficient editing skills etc, but look at this:
1.Near Death Threat section
In July 2010, after Wilders complained that his security was inadequate, the Special Security Assignments Brigade, a special unit of Dutch military police, made four attempts to smuggle a firearm into the heavily guarded offices of Wilders' Freedom Party, two of which were successful. Following these breaches, security at the offices was increased.[190][191]
2. Then just afterwards
...also July 2010...
Shortly before this publication, it was revealed in The Hague that Dutch law enforcement officers succeeded twice in smuggling a firearm into the parliament buildings and into the guarded headquarters of Wilders' party. This check was carried out by the Special Security Assignments Brigade BSB, a special unit of the Dutch Military Police. The test was carried out following a complaint from Wilders about his security being inadequate.[203][204] 2A01:B340:82:A8E:DA3A:DB2C:9D64:41C9 (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone edit this duplication, please? 

message: Change "and for his relations to the Kremlin." to "".
OR
Cite sources that actually support this claim. 
The article does not mention Russia, Kremlin, Moscow, any Russian politicians or backers.
Neither the current article nor the archived article. AG-WD40 (talk) 11:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: — Urro[talk][edits] 17:27, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2024 

message: Should we consider making a file for Mr. Wilders' signature? What motivates me is that he has chances of becoming PM, and that most Heads of Government like Mark Rutte have signatures in their Wikipedia articles.
I am not a guy acquainted with legal and privacy stuff, so I ask if it is possible. BrightSunMan (talk) 12:22, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: He is now apparently not going to be a PM anytime soon, but anyways... BrightSunMan (talk) 13:28, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilders' Signature 

message: Link: https://www.politico.eu/article/wilders-wont-be-next-netherlands-prime-minister-he-says/ JohnAdams1800 (talk) 21:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilders gives up on attempting to be PM. 

message: Here is a primary source TikTok video of an interview where Geert Wilders says that he enjoys playing Mario Kart on his *Nintendo*.  https://www.tiktok.com/@gekookteaardappell/video/7304631551810112800?lang=en
The article (and its source material) state that he plays Mario Kart on Playstation, which is factually incorrect, as Mario Kart is not available for any version of the Playstation.
I'm not an established user; can an established user please remove the references, correct the error, and add this or any other source to establish the correct information? Thanks! Bugsbycarlin (talk) 15:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geert Wilders enjoys Mario Kart on Nintendo (not Playstation, that's an error)