Talk:Stairway to Heaven/Archive 1

message: The album commonly referred to as Led Zeppelin IV is untitled. Read the Led Zeppelin IV page. Thank you. I'm No Parking and  I approved this message 22:57, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Why does this article have a song-infobox, instead of a single-infobox. This song was released on single..in fact, this is one of the best sold singles up to date.SoothingR 07:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think your mistaken. I have never before heard that this song is a single. I have heard that it wasn't a single though. What is your source. RENTAFOR LET? 01:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmmm, odd...I've done a thorough search, and other than , there was nothing which could be found regarding this being a single. In fact, the Led Zeppelin-article even contradicts it. I believe I am mistaken, apoligies for the situation.SoothingR 08:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oooh, you can spot a newbie or non-fan from a mile away if they call "Stairway" a single. "Stariway" was never, ever, EVER released as a single. Ever. It's played on RADIO. Get that? RADIO. Specifically AOR stations. But LZ infamously never released it as a single. Ever. The End. Doc Strange 19:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for this particular non-constructive comment to this age-old discussion.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING(Я) 07:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Single infobox

message: Does anyone other than me think that instead of having a section called "lyrics" change it to something like Interpretation so that we could talk about the lyrics and also give some of the interpretaitons of the songs lyrics. RENTAFOR LET? 03:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interpretation

message: Would anyone else want to help with moving the sample and some of the backmasking details to their own article, Backmasking in Stairway to Heaven? This would address concerns about overstating the controversy in this article. I emailed LZ's label for permission to use the lyrics, and they haven't responded yet, but regardless, we can include at least a short quote of the lyrics. TheJabberwʘck 22:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, no response from the label. We can't cite the forward lyrics because of copyvio worries, but the backward ones should be okay, since no one has a copyright on them - the label denies they exist. Λυδαcιτγ 01:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

message: The article describes this song as being in the hard rock genre.  How on earth?  The song is so slow paced! Davez621 16:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LZ can't really be compressed into one genre. But at least part of the song - "And as we wind on down the road..." is definitely hard rock. Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 00:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the guitar solo onwards the song is a drivin'-headbanging-phrenetic-limbs-a-go-go-hair-a-shaking-stompo-rocker. I guess that's why it's hard rock. Freebird (by Skynyrd) has the same slow start with hard rock ending. Hard rock too!  Candy 22:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Good idea. Λυδαcιτγ 02:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Fixed. Λυδαcιτγ 21:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard rock??? 

message: Truthfully, you can hear the words speaking about Satan if you listen to the section backwards.  It starts at 4:23 into the song and ends at 4:43.  This is not being made up in any way.  As previously stated, you can download the forwards section at http://rapidshare.de/files/23589828/Forwards.rar.html and the backwards section at http://rapidshare.de/files/23589879/Backwards.rar.html.  And those "alleged" lyrics below the one that I posted on the main page of this is no way true, it has nothign so say about God in it, just about Satan!!!  I enjoy the music in the song, as it is one of the most famous pieces of music in rock history.  Still, this message, meant to or not, is there in the song, like it or not.--Aaron 12:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This Song

message: As typed in the trivia section:: "At some high schools, "Stairway to Heaven" is the standard last song at dances, a fact referenced by the Canadian band Barenaked Ladies in their lyrics for "Grade 9": "I've got a red leather tie and pair of rugger pants, I put them on and I went to the high school dance. Dad said I had to be home by eleven -- aw, man, I'm gonna miss Stairway to Heaven."
I highly doubt this is true. It deserves actual documentation, rather than one mention in a BNL song. Regardless of whether or not this happened at one of the members 'high school dances', that only refers to one, specific situation, and not a moderate dissection of universal society. Until proper, justified references can be attributed, I'm going to take it off.
:Agreed. By the way, it would be great if you could use an edit summary (like "see talk page") when making edits like this one. Thanks, Λυδαcιτγ 03:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: How can there be an article dedicated to a single song, without actually containing the lyrics of said song?
 Can anyone add them?
:No, lyrics are usually copyvio. See  and http://www.azlyrics.com/copyright.html. Λυδαcιτγ 03:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: Does anyone know what this is about? I deleted it since it made no sense to me. Λυδαcιτγ 03:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call. That edit doesn't seem to have a place here. -Phoenixrod 03:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted passage 

message: Look, the fact that there is speculation over backward lyrics should be mentioned and linked. The whole backward lyric stuff should be elsewehere and the actual "claimed" lyrics shouldn't be printed here. IMHO these are the result of part fun and part gullability. Anyway, they have misinterpreted the actual first part of the backward lyrics. My own reserach leads me to believe they actually say, "“Glory nor Ish my play tavourite or one a bit of tad wood make me sad wood wore Io win say ton”. 8)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Candorwien (talk • contribs) 
:The best way to expose a fraud is to provide all the details. I personally agree that they are bogus, but so what? - there's a lot of speculation, and the best we can do is document the truth. Λυδαcιτγ 01:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Backward Lyrics

message: Any body know about this section, "Some radio stations that have listed the song as #1 include WNOR (Norfolk), WEBN (Cincinnati), WLVQ (Columbus), WGRX (Baltimore), WFXF (Indianapolis), KLSK (Albuquerque), WMYG (Pittsburgh), KLSX (Los Angeles), Virgin Radio (London), KRTH (Los Angeles), KGON (Portland), KSAN (San Francisco Bay Area), KGB (San Diego), CHOM (Montréal), WNCX (Cleveland), Q107 (CILQ Toronto), and WZLX (Boston).[2]"
My feeling is that it is probably unnecessary. I mean, isn't this rather superfluous. Any thoughts? Candy 17:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a problem with it – the detailed info really gets across how widely Stairway is regarded as the greatest. Also, someone might wish to take a look at the Greatest Rock Song polls from a few of those stations. Λυδαcιτγ 02:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too Much Information

message: Just to clarify. The ammendment by Mike65535 of the quote by Plant corrects the lyrics of the song but as it was a quote by Plant it should stand. Perhaps  Mike read it a little too quickly and out of context? Candy 20:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plant Quote

message: Sorry messed up the refs for my last two changes and I#m tired. Could someone help clean them up? seem to have templated them. Thanks. Candy 19:20, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All done. Templates, which have the double { and } brackets around them, are only useful if you're using a template such as . Otherwise, just enclose it in ref tags. You'll notice I deleted most of one ref - it's now copied from the other ref, using the ref naming system. Check out m:Cite/Cite.php for more. Λυδαcιτγ 01:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Audacity. 8) Candy 13:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: help refs

message: Two sections were removed by me just now. The first was original reserach - an analysis of the number of repeated words in the text. It is irrelevant and original research is not part of Wikipedia.
The second section was the lyrics. These are copyright and not permissible. Candy 21:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed two sections 

message: This part, "In 1991 an Albuquerque, New Mexico  radio station stunted into its Classic Rock format by playing "Stairway to Heaven" for 24 hours straight." is not only unreferenced (doesn't even have the radio station's name so it may well be hearsay or a vague recollection by someone) but also uses "stunt", a noun, as a verb. This either needs rewriting (but I don't actually understand if it means that as a stunt for their Classic Rock hour they played ?... " or deleting. Any thoughts?
::Thoughts are ... delete. It doesn't add to the article but detracts. There has been enough time for someone to comment for its inclusion. Bye bye ref! Candy 07:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, but just for the record, stunted (present tense - stunting) is a commonly used radio term. See the Stunting (broadcasting) section for more infoCiticat 00:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To stunt! 

message: The second paragraph of the Music section mentions that wooden bass recorders were played but the source given which confirms that recorders were played (in the first paragraph of the section) has no mention of bass recorders at all. Where did the idea of bass recorders come into it? --Hydraton31 14:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wooden bass recorders? 

message: Couldn't stand it any longer and I wiped a whole section.
I posted some weeks ago for citations and received none. The whole section seems to be simply speculation. We are better off without it. 
If anyone wanted to put a simple line in to say that it could be inspired by Tolkien Mythology (and Ramble On certainly is) then that would still need a citation as there shouldn't be speculation or original reserach going on in Wikipedia. 
Candy 08:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large paragraph erased 

message: I found a couple of web pages that cite an Esquire magazine article from Nov 1991 saying over 1 million copies sold. I can't find a ref for the 1.2 million copies sold. I found a Guardian Newspaper article recently quoting 1.2 million copies but this doesn't cite its own sources and as it is later than this Wiki article it could easily be using this uncited article as a source itself (therefore an uncited cource in Wiki becomes a source for the citation if you see what I mean). I will revert to the Esquire cource which seems more reliable if someone can't come up with one. Candy 06:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sheet music ref needed 

message: I've always thought this song was kind of dark.  Not from a Pagan perspective but Christian.
I'm not surprised there are satanic messages when it's played backwards.
I don't believe the artists did this intentionally or where even consciously aware of it when this manifestation occurred.  I think it was the "May Queen" that did it.  She's coming out to say: "Ha ha.  I'm really a demon!"
Many artists, even the Beatles, have admitted they gave themselves to the control of what some would call "demonic forces" and what others would call "Hindu gods" or "Pagan gods".
But this is so creepy it's no wonder Led Zepplin would deny having anything to do with that sort of thing.
Rush4hire 13:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave you bullshit religious propaganda out of wikipedia please. 123.255.54.200 15:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creepy. 

message: I don't know if this is worth mentioning in the main article, but just FYI, at the 2005 Edinburgh International Science Festival, Simon Singh played Stairway backwards without telling the audience what it was, then asked if anyone heard the word "Satan". A handful of people did. No-one heard anything more than that. Then he told us what it was, what the backwards lyrics were supposed to be, and played it again. This time we all heard it. Pure power of suggestion. Daibhid C 22:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any citation? Λυδαcιτγ 23:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Blogs from people who were there don't count, of course, but there's a New York Academy of Sciences report on the lecture. Daibhid C 15:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edinburgh Science Festival 2005

message: Stairway has more of a classic rock intro than a folk rock one, especially the guitar part.  It has a lot more classic rock elements, and it certainly isn't country style the way folk rock would be (the middle section however is slightly folk rock, but not entirely folk rock.)
::Except that there is no musical style called "classic rock." "Classic rock" is a radio format. Kww 10:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folk Rock?? I'd say it's more Classic 

message: Yes, if he said George Washington was the first President of the United States, he would have to cite a reference. Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research , and pay close attention, especially to 'Material that counts as "original research" within the meaning of this policy is material for which no reliable source can be found and which is therefore believed to be the original thought of the Wikipedian who added it'. The section I am reverting is very specifically a conclusion drawn by the author. He did not rely on an outside source. It is not acceptable in Wikipedia. If a reliable source said exactly the same thing, he could quote it, and it would not be a problem. If he can't quote a reliable outside source that agrees with him, he can't say it at all. Kww 02:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: "Pop Singer and conservative Pat Boone" -- and conservative? This is unnecessary labeling -- as soon as I read it my image of the singer (who I haven't really heard of) was tainted upon reading the word "conservative." While he might be politically active as a conservative, there's no reason to throw this word in really at all at this point. I'm getting rid of it. 69.139.67.90 23:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Candy 08:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with this change. When Pat Boone released "In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy", it made CNN, ABC, Reuters, etc. Not because Pat Boone was a lounge singer, but because he was a conservative, evangelical lounge singer that was politically active, and was vocally supportive of the "Parental Advisory" stickers that we take for granted now. Kww 15:22, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pat Boone Mention 

message: I played the Dolly Parton version of the song backwards (same part : If theres a bustle......) and it happens on it too. Perhaps it was  just the choice of words happening to do it. I dont know. Try it. It is ture/
Hmm... Maybe it is just a phonetic coincidence. They say some words and it sounds like something else backwards. Try making your own cover (just sing the song a capella (no music) and record it on your computer) play it backwards, and see. If you hear it (the evil message), it's probably just a phonetic coincidence. MalwareSmarts 19:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Dolly Parton Version Has the backwards thing too 

message: Themacboy 03:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work sonny Jim. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 07:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed some html tags 

message: I know some of you won't believe me, but it's true, you can read about it here: http://www.sunsetwestproductions.com/forever/stairway.htm 9I promise it isn't rickroll) Should that be noted in the article? Orangemango (talk) 03:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's only one person's interpretation, one of many, and not what we'd regard as a reliable source. --Rodhullandemu 03:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the song about? Does anyone know, did they ever talk about it? The article could use some information about it... --82.171.70.54 (talk) 22:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Stairway To Heaven is a christian song!

message: Sorry, but I couldn't stand the phrase any more. The main reason is it is not a suite in any musical sense. I have a feeling that it may be quoted (as it is referenced) but I don't see any quotations. Regardless, it makes no sense and is inaccurate so I have replaced it.
Candy (talk) 08:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi-movement suite 

message: The section "Accusations of plagiarism" contains no mention of any accusations. —Random832 16:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have changed it to "Musical sources" in the absence of any citations of controversy. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 17:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accusations of plagiarism 

message: This is sourced. I will drag the source out when I have time. --Candy (talk) 06:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fender solo 

message: Ian Stewart (The Rolling Stones) wrote a part of "stairway to heaven" (source: DVD The Rolling Stones - just for the record)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.110.1 (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writer 

message: i heard years ago that the song had disappeared from radio airplay in the US, because this one radio conglomerate which owns a very large number of local stations throughout the country had "recommended" that it not be played, but i don't recall grasping the reason why. Reading this article makes me think that it must've been due to the backmasking controversy (which i didn't know of). So here goes:
#Did this airplay blacklisting really happen? i've failed to find anything in here.
#If so, did it end? Is the song to be heard again? (i don't listen to rock radio any longer)
--Jerome Potts (talk) 04:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Highly unlikely. We have no reliable sources on it's ban.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the person is referring to the Clear Channel memo listing inapproriate songs to be played after 9/11, which somehow got blown out of all proportions by some indepedent media blogs. The network claimed it was a suggestion list, which most stations never enforced or ignored. See Snopes website here for details  MegX (talk) 03:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  banned from radio airplay 

message: Can we keep the silly "lyrics" samples to a strict minimum, while mentioning that there are several differing versions of the said "message" (and sourcing all of that, providing pointers to the inquiring minds who wanna know)?
It might be worth mentioning that you can here the same "message" in the version from "the song remains the same," which is strong evidence that it was not intentional. (it's hard to back-mask a live recording)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.98.58 (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Λυδαcιτγ 05:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. --Jerome Potts (talk) 06:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The puritanism described in the backmasking section should be removed. This is a disgrace to wikipedia. Miskin (talk) 12:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In response to the unsigned comment - if it were really true that the Satanic messages were intentional, then the lyrics might have been crafted in such a way that you would actually get those messages when playing it backwards, so singing the same lyrics in concert should yield the same results. Metsfanmax (talk) 15:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  backmasking controversy 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:The-Money-or-the-Gun.jpg

message: The lyrics are very clear in the recorded album version. However, this quote is correct. Please refer to history (Nov/Dec 2006) to see why this is so.
So, do not correct the quote even though your grammatical or lyrically attuned senses may wish to. 
I hope that clears this up ... --Candy (talk) 19:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a lady is sure (sic) ...please do not "correct" 

message: Trying to split hairs on what "genre" (actually sub-genre) this song is becomes, almost by definition, a matter of personal opinion or independent research.  It's a rock song, in some ways a genre-defining one, and retroactively trying to assign it a sub-category is invalid.Jgm (talk) 00:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's definately not Rock and Roll though. Planty does sing "to be a rock and not to roll ..." 8-)  --Candy (talk) 17:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  genre 

message: I've seen it claimed (for example, here and here) that the whole song contains Satanic lyrics backwards.  Is this claim sufficiently widespread to merit inclusion in the Wikipedia article?  I note that the two videos linked have almost two million hits between them, there are more where they come from, and YouTube surely isn't the only place where this is discussed. Capedia (talk) 02:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree Capedia. This is about the song not backmasking in general. --Candy (talk) 09:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  backmasked "section"? 

message: My understanding is that the main melody of "Stairway to Heaven" is derived from Turlough O'Carolan's tune called "Carolan's Dream".  Turlough O'Carolan was a blind Irish harp player who lived from 1670-1738.  Search for "Carolan's Dream" on YouTube if you would like to hear it.  Matagamasi (talk) 02:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For us to make this connection would be original research, which is not permitted. If a reliable source has pointed out the similarity, it can be mentioned in the article. --Rodhullandemu 14:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Carolan's Dream" by Turlough O'Carolan 

message: "Stairway To Heaven" sounds more folk than it really does rock, though could this song be considered folk rock?
Ожиданиесчастья (talk) 03:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At the beginning, perhaps. Not really at the end. Has a reliable source ever described it as folk rock? --Rodhullandemu 04:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks, I've written for most of the Fairport Convention and Sandy Denny articles, so I know what folk rock is, and it's not necessarily celtic. The issue here is one of original research; whatever we think is the genre of a song is irrelevant, as it would need to be described as such by a reliable source such as Allmusic, and cited. --Rodhullandemu 15:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Fine. That is the very definition of original research and best kept out of the article; and please don't start new topics for an existing conversation, it breaks the page up too much. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 15:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment The article is OK/fine/nice/neutral with just 'rock' in the box. It's sorta/kinda like a folk rock song that kinda/almost turns into a rock song and peaks with a sorta/maybe/classic hard rock guitar solo.pentatonic at its finest With all those sorta/kinda/maybe styles blended into a single track... the best way to stay accurate and neutral and "Wikipedia-ish" is to just go with the parent genre "Rock." In the end 'rock' is the only true genre in the mix anyways. All the rest are just 'styles' of rock... so putting rock in the box and leaving out the superfluity is the best route. The Real Libs-speak politely 16:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folk rock? 

message: The fact that the solo or solos ranked #1 on Revolver's list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Solos of all time? I think it was also #1 on a VH1 countdown some time back.
-Alan 24.184.184.130 (talk) 22:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How could you not mention?... 

message: This is the first line under the "Music" section:
"The song consists of several distinct sections, beginning with a quiet introduction on a finger picked 12 string guitar and three recorders"
I don't hear the intro picked on a 12 string guitar. I hear is one an Acoustic. The Middle section is arpeggiated on a 12 string guitar.
--173.73.77.81 (talk) 03:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not disputing what you're saying but do you have a 3rd party citation to back you claim? MegX (talk) 03:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No citations? Means the edits will get reverted. MegX (talk) 03:11, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A 12 string guitar may also be an acoustic guitar. They are not mutually exclusive. --Candy (talk) 21:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy

message: This article claims that "Stairway to Heaven" was the number-one song on the "Charly 1300 Top 10" chart in 1972.  The web page cited as a reference, http://charly1300.pagesperso-orange.fr/1972.htm is part of Charly1300.com, a web site created by Charles Pons that collects and disseminates chart information from various sources.  The page in question is titled "Top 10 TMP" (Top Musique Personnels).  The disclaimer at the bottom of the page states:
This hit parade is a personal chart corresponding to the musical tastes of the webmasters, it cannot be considered an official ranking of sales or airplay. The dates correspond to the release dates in the country of origin or in France, according to sources.
In other words, it is simply a list of someone's personal favorite songs arranged chronologically to coincide with the time period when those records were released.  No such chart called "Charly 1300 Top 10" existed in 1972, it is a present-day creation reflecting one person's musical tastes and is completely made up. 70.191.127.27 (talk) 16:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed accuracy of chart positions section 

message: Over the years I've heard alot about "Stairway to Heaven" never being released as a single but I have one in my possession and am wondering how common or rare it may be!  It was released by Atlantic Records, and is called "Led Zeppelin Acoustically" and I aquired it in the 70's . It is a 45 r.p.m. 7" single, (code EPA 228) and has a maroon cover with a black and white photo of some of the band live in concert on the front.  The 'A' side features "That's The Way" and "Going To California" and the 'B' side features "Stairway To Heaven" Does anyone out there have any info on this particular version that could help me out  eg. when was it released and was it only limited?  Lahne8 (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was never officially released as a single, meaning a version that was sold in retail stores and distributed to radio DJs. I suspect that your disc was a special promo item of some sort, maybe for a foreign market. You may or may not have a big-time collectible on your hands. I don't know for sure, but there's a big community of collectors out there and someone might know something about your disc. Browse this: Zep collectibles search. Doomsdayer520 (Talk|Contribs) 23:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stairway to Heaven single 

message: This page says S to H "bears a close resemblance" to Taurus by Spirit, but the page for the Spirit page says that it is "now widely accepted" that Zeppelin copied the baseline.  It seems like either the Zep fans are underplaying this or Spirit fans are exaggerating it.  There should be more consistency between the pages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.132.19 (talk) 02:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities to Taurus 

message: I just heard this song on the radio a few nights ago. There is no way it could be taken off the air.
:::And your point is? --Candy (talk) 22:04, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not banned on radiowaves 

message: Someone played a version to me they told me was Pink Floyd and Led Zepelin playing this together. YouTube seems to have a number of uploads containing this as well, although all of them have their claims disputed in the feedback? Is there a definitive answer on whether this recording ever happened? MrMarmite (talk) 08:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read most of the books about both Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and can't remember any mentions that the two bands ever did anything together. If the claim that "someone" made to you is true it would be a major blockbuster for rock history, but then why isn't it common knowledge? Doomsdayer520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pink Floyd?