Talk:Jonah Goldberg

message: It looks like the user at IP Address 69.3.236.144 Really has some personal beefs with Jonah Goldberg, as displayed by his repeated vandalism of this article.
I'm still pretty new to Wikipedia. What is the process to go through to have a user blocked from editing a specific article? If anyone can help out with that, it would be great! --WAHooker July 7, 2005 12:19 (UTC)
What is the purpose of the Juan Cole link? --69.37.131.232 18:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clicking through the link and reading Goldberg's article (actually the first page, the link for Next Page on NRO's site is broken), he appears to be serious.  Strange. Crust 22:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the link and read the whole thing.  Yes, he was serious (for context this was his view in May 2000, much has changed since then of course).  Crust 22:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I rather think that he wouldn't advocate it now for purely logistical reasons (apparently invading sovereign states is harder than he thought!), but it would still be a "noble" enterprise in principle.  What an utter cock. --Saforrest 16:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think either phrasing is possible.  "To protect against reprisal" and "To protect against any possilbe reprisal" mean basically the same thing to me.  Neither suggests that a reprisal is inevitable, only that the victim of it think it is.  I like the brief version better on principle (brevity in language) but they both mean the same thing.  One's just wordier. Bjsiders 14:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, but "To protect against the reprisals" implies that they are inevitable.  You're right though, just "reprisals" is briefer and cleaner. Makgraf 18:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IP address

message: Should Jonah's father Sidney be referred to, at least to begin with, by his full name?  Also, would it be better to talk in a little more detail about what he did?  (He wrote for TechCentralStation.com, at least.  Does anyone else know more about where he worked?)  BLHersey 02:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jonah Goldberg once revealed on air (Fox) on a panel that his father worked for one of the three-letter agencies, I believe CIA. Nothing online about his father reflects that admission by him on-air. 24.45.34.119 (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sid vs. Sidney Goldberg 

message: Wouldn't it make more sense to provide a link to his author archive-at either NRO or Townhall.com-instead of linking to individual essays or columns he's written? Ruthfulbarbarity 17:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article does link to both his NRO and his Townhall archives.  However, it is good to link to the articles that are quoted in the article so that users can (1) verify the quote is genuine and (2) see it in context.  Also, when it says he has written about censorship, many will be curious to know what he has written about it.  The link riught allows them to find out in a single click.  Otherwise they'd have to fossick about in his archives or google "Jonah Goldberg + Censorship", etc and it'd take a lot longer for people to get the info. Jacob1207 20:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Er, citation?  Makgraf 05:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Two new facts were put on the page recently one about Coulter and one about a Pinochet option for Iraq. I believe they are both true but the do need citations.  Master shepherd 21:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I gave the citations.  My find button didn't recognize the apostrophe in the orginal quote so it looked like it wasn't in the article .  When I read the full article I found the quote and put it back. Makgraf 05:56, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New facts

message: A bunch of new info was put up on the frequent topics section with no citation. I deleted the stuff that was clearly not NPOV the rest I marked as citation needed. If they don't get cited soon I am going to delete them. Master shepherd 23:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Igoldman said "Citations for the above paragraph on Iraq all come from one column, syndicated, "IRAQ WAS A WORTHY MISTAKE," Oct. 20, 2006, at this link: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY2M2M2YmY3YWZhODg5ZTQwYjdlN2MxM2FjNzQ0OTA=. Thanks to the policy he championed in Iraq, the U.S. Army is nearly "broken," as one general told Congress. Consequently, it now accepts recruits as old as 42, which means Goldberg, if he chose, could still enlist."  Someone needs to evaluate this and then insert the facts from it into the article.  Makgraf 08:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The "implied treasonous motives to those who disagree" charge is a pretty serious one and so far I haven't seen any evidence backing it up. Makgraf 08:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ""to wars that advance U.S. interests (or, allegedly, President Bush's or Israel's or ExxonMobil's interests.""  This isn't implying "treasonous" motives in any way.  I'm sure most people on the left would agree that they oppose wars for the sake of advancing, say, American economic or military interests.  Saying people object to wars for realpolitik reasons does not equal calling them traitors. I should probably add that Goldberg is saying this in a sneering way because that's how he does things.  But it doesn't add up to the accusation provided.Makgraf 23:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: frequent topics

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Jreferee 20:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: Does Jonah Goldberg have any relation with another conservative commentator Bernard Goldberg? WooyiTalk, Editor review 03:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope  Makgraf 16:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bernard Goldberg]] 

message: I have removed a sentence from one paragraph because it is editorializing for the purpose of presenting JG's opinions in a negative, an unfavorable, and a caricatural view.  In that paragraph, then ("He has recently published a column supporting finding an "Iraqi Augusto Pinochet" to bring stability to Iraq, stating that "Pinochet's abuses helped create a civil society". http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-oe-goldberg14dec14,1,1353591.column  Pinochet was responsible for the murder, torture, and disappearances of thousands of Chileans.") I have removed the final sentence and link ("Pinochet was responsible for the murder, torture, and disappearances of thousands of Chileans.").
The sentence not only goes into a different subject than the bio that is concerned here, it does so in a way that suggests that in Chile, everything was going (more or less) swell and dandy and that the country was embarked on a road to (earthly) paradise, when suddenly, out of the blue, a demented general (Pinochet) went berserk and did nothing if not bring chaos upon his country (this, needless to say, is akin to the Michael Moore view of Saddam Hussein's Iraq). 
That sentence ignores the fact that, in the views of at least in a number of Chileans (and foreigners), Salvador Allende (elected or otherwise) was embarking his country on the same path that brought one-party statedom, disaster, and repression (not to speak of "murder, torture, and disappearances") to countries such as East Germany, Romania, and (neighboring) Cuba.
Not that this sentence (and the hyperlink) do not necessarily belong on Wikipedia at all.  But it doesn't belong on JG's page, in my view; integrate them on Pinochet's entry. If the reader wants to find out more from this short para, let him put his cursor over the hyperlinked name of Augusto Pinochet and use the power of the click. Asteriks (talk) 12:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't have to take sides on the right-wing charge that the democratically elected Allende government was somehow moving the country toward totalitarian disaster.  As an illustration of Goldberg's contrarian thinking, however, it's worth mentioning here that Pinochet is considered by many people to be a murderous dictator.  I agree with you that full explication of the details of Pinochet's regime (pro and con) should be left to the hyperlinked Pinochet article, but the reader unfamiliar with Pinochet should be given at least an indication of why Goldberg's invocation of Pinochet is notable. JamesMLane t c 12:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinochet and Chile 

message: Is Goldberg editing his own Wikipedia page? The only source provided for this claim was a link to Keppler Speakers, which books Goldberg for speaking engagements, and which merely asserted this "fact" without any corroboration. That's like saying Kraft Dinner is the cheesiest because you saw it in a Kraft commercial.
Come on people, this isn't the National Review, citations need to conform to some basic standard of truthiness.
Review Wikipedia's guidelines on citing sources if you need help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexington50 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most Widely Read Political Columnist Under 40 

message: There is a disagreement over how to phrase this indiviuals "conservatism" in the lead. At the least, it should go after nationality. Also, can it be sourced? Also, if applicable, I like how this "situation" is handled by the Sean Hannity bio. Anyways, I will not revert(for now) 
since the editor has called my edit a bad faith edit by good faith editor which beats troll any day :) Cheers! Tom 02:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the conservative part to after nationality per MOSBIO, any problems with that? Tom 03:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead sentence

message: A quick check of bloggingheads.tv shows he made one appearance on BHTV in 2011, none in 2012, and 4 in 2010 (quite tapered off from earlier years) so I'd say his "frequent contributions" lasted up to 2010 at most.
Re "Web TV" program with Peter Beinart called "What's your problem", I can only find instances of this in 2007, and here in 2008:
http://www.claremontconservative.com/2008_07_07_archive.html
a conservative source refers to the probram as "ill-fated".
HalMorris (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Frequent" appearances on Blogging Heads, reference to "What's Your Problem" should be past tense. 

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message: Why the absurd comment about a fellow Republican?  Makes no common sense. 2603:9009:C04:A1EE:45DE:AA08:92DA:FA65 (talk) 01:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Youngkin is not mentioned in the article. Regardless, the talk page is WP:NOTAFORUM; it is a place to discuss ways to improve the article. --Kent G. Budge (talk) 02:05, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youngkin 

message: The current text (5/13/23) says, "Goldberg did not volunteer that The Dispatch was funded in part by the Conservative billionaire benefactor." This assertion is provided without any reference. I can find no corroborating information on Wikipedia, including its page on The Dispatch, or anywhere on the internet. Where corroborating information is provided, in order to avoid the sense that this more than a snide insinuation, it would be desirable that there is some indication of how much money was provided or what fraction of the startup costs were covered by Crow's contribution. Bjpowers57276 (talk) 14:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defense of Harlan Crow