Wikipedia talk:WikiProject edit counters/Archive 1

message: How about just a tad more detail? Perhaps an explanation? Rfrisbietalk 02:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to elaborate a little bit - if I understand correctly, the toolserver needs to replicate data from the main servers, and the replication with en.wikipedia.org is no longer occuring, so new edits are not showing up on the toolserver. --AySz88^-^ 02:49, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's my understanding as well: that edits from a certain point (a few days ago) will no longer be updated; thus, the counter will stay outdated. See User talk:Interiot#Toolserver is effectively down, where he addresses the issue. The developers are working on fixing this, so hopefully the problem will be rectified soon. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 14:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification, unfortunate as it may be. :-( Good luck with the related projects! :-) Rfrisbietalk 15:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  en.wikipedia.org data is no longer updated 

message: Apologies if this has been discussed before. Has any thought been given to moving this to a service like Sourceforge.net or similar? Having the code under source code control would make it easier for multiple editors to contribute and to keep track of updates. Cut and paste from a web page is a little old school :-) Gwernol 04:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, we have gotten a SourceForge account. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use sourceforge for code storage? 

message: I have noticed that Kate and Interiot's tools are working again, (albeit slowly) what changed? Highway Rainbow Sneakers 17:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: DaBpunkt put a possible fix in...  however, some of the new data is corrupt, and the edit counts from the toolserver should not be relied upon.  --Interiot 18:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For me, for instance, the data on the toolserver version has given me edits I didn't make as well as not counted others. Some I didn't make that are counted: Protein array analysis (20 edits!); Thomas, Owen (again, 9 edits!); Nazo; Nasir ibn Khosrau; Adams Township, Coshocton County, OH (I don't even live in Ohio!), etcetera. When it did work, however, it was nice to be able to see summaries within each namespace as well, though. – Xolatron 18:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: What's the ETA on edit counters working again? I guess I never understood why they didn't work in the first place. --Liface 02:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For toolserver counters, the status should be at m:Toolserver/news.  Currently, I believe we're just waiting for a new hard drive to be installed on the toolserver, and then replication can start up again.  --Interiot 03:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: Is there any way to get a list of all editors, sorted by edit count or by date of account creation? I know I've seen such a list before, but that might have been in the toolserver days. Herostratus 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "The toolserver days"   I guess it seems like an epoch since it was up.  There's Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, and it lists the queries they run, I believe.  --Interiot 02:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: On the old Kate's tool, it displayed how many deleted edits a user had, as well as how many "actual" edits they had. Is there a way to see this information now? Thanks Batmanand | Talk 18:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Once the toolserver starts replicating enwiki, you'll be able to see the deleted count again.  There's currently no way to display a deleted count otherwise.  However, you could request that query.php add the ability to simply count deleted edits, and it's somewhat likely that would be implemented.  --Interiot 18:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted edits 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 13:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: The first letter of the subject should be capitalised: WikiProject Edit counters.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Again another Wikipedian statistical phenomenon has arrived! However, vandalisms and inactive users aside. First off for mine third compliment and perhaps the forth for this Wikipedia itself, I truly praise, commend and greatly congratulate this English Wikipedia once again for surpassing yet anoher Wiki-record of the One Hundred Millionth (or in figures: 100,000,000) mark of the total Wikipedians' Edit Counts!!! Yet this whopping number of what both users and Wikipedians have made up of this big free encyclopedia ever since July 2002AD and yet they never stop growing (as stated and based on/in the Wikipedian User Statistics)! WOW, what else can I say to express here, man!!? Thus, Congratulations and Kudos to the English Wikipedia! Keep the numbers going and keep on editing and contributing for more! Yaaahooooo!!! --onWheeZierPLot 00:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Weird. Special:Statistics shows over 100 million edits, but there's only  revisions in the Revision table... Titoxd(?!?) 02:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  100,000,000 edit counts! Yeehah! 

message: Was wondering if and where is this mentioned? Mathmo Talk 08:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some info about that at stats.wikimedia.org.  Also, whoever updates the Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits page could probably modify their script/query to more precisely calculate this statistic, since they're calculating the edit count of every single user anyway.  --Interiot 10:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Average number of edits per registered user?

message: I'm wondering if there's any interest in creating an edit count widget for Mac OS 10.4 (Tiger) or later. There is already a wikipedia widget. The Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) operating system will have a tool to easily created widgets (right now, I am not capable of doing such a project without it) and I would be willing to collaborate with one or more willing participants who are versed in the sort of codes/tasks that would be necessary to pull it off. I do not want to "plagiarize" an existing edit counter (that is, have the widget act as a parasite, using the tool in some counter to "pull" data back to it for display), out of respect for those who have created the same, as well as to guard against such a counter no longer functioning or being modified to prevent such activity. I realize the Mac users aren't the largest percentage, but if there are one or more willing individuals here (or who might be curious to learn more), please let me know. Mac OS 10.5 isn't out yet, anyway. Fwgoebel 06:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How much Java support does Mac OS have? Flcelloguy's Tool's Stats class is public, so it can output an object for your project to use... Titoxd(?!?) 07:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent question! The following comes from "Mac Help" (on a Mac in the Finder), under the topic "Creating your own widgets": Anyone with a basic knowledge of HTML, JavaScript, and CSS can create unique and useful widgets for Dashboard. For those who are familiar with programming, you can also incorporate AppleScripts, UNIX commands, and just about any Tiger technology into your widget using a custom plug-in.Mac OS X comes with everything you need to get started. Look for sample widgets and code in the developer tools that come with Mac OS X.To learn more about creating ingenious software for Mac OS X, visit the Apple Developer Connection website.At the top, simply search for "widget" and several good articles appear.Naturally, it would take a Mac that runs the Tiger (10.4.x) or later to actually test. For me personally, I would likely have to wait for 10.5 (Leopard) to be released. Fwgoebel 14:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's the problem... I'm waiting for Leopard to come out until I buy a Mac, so I can't really help until then, but we'd sure like to help in coding a widget. Titoxd(?!?) 06:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Count Widget 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 18:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Does anyone know where I could obtain the Python source for "Kate's tool"? The link provided in this article gives one of delightful Apache Server errors... Does anyone perhaps have a working link? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a snapshot of it as it is on disk now, including whatever is causing the internal server error.  --Interiot 17:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for Kate's tool 

message: Hey, I'm wondering if there's a quick and easy way for me to check my admin-specific stats (such as number of deletes, protections, and blocks). A cursory glance finds do such tools listed, but that doesn't necessarily mean such tools don't exist... EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on this comment, I just wrote one (a pretty simplistic one for the time being). I'll add it to my edit counter (it's accessible through a 'count' tab on your log once you have the counter installed), and here are your stats:
 Log stats for EVula, 09:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: At the moment, it can count a maximum of 5000 logged actions. --ais523 09:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparable tools for admin stats? 

message: Just to let everyone know that the edit counter redirect has been put up at redirects for discussion and can be found here, I am personally totally against this because I (as I expect many other users) frequently search "edit counter" in the search box to bring up the list of edit counters. Comments would be very much appreciated RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect from [[Edit counter]] to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters]]

message: I might be in the wrong place, but I'm still searching. I've noticed a few user pages that mention their milestone edits (first, hundredth, etc.) but I can't figure out how to look back and find my own milestones. Can anyone help? Stoneice02 02:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is probably the right place to ask, but I don't know of any counters that do that. You can work it out by going to 'earliest' in Special:Contributions and counting it backwards (assuming you don't mind missing deleted edits) for small numbers. --ais523 17:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It shouldn't be so hard to do, edit-counter wise, but I had never heard of a request to do this. What does everyone else think? Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 03:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems reasonable. Due to the way my counter works, it would be highly difficult to add to mine, but counters like Interiot's Tool1 (or even Tool3; this is one count which is largely unaffected by replication-lag!) would be able to manage it quite easily, I think. --ais523 09:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a tool does exist, I remember seeing it. Perhaps click though all the links on this age until you see the option for it?! Personally though... I'm off to sleep, zzzz....  Mathmo Talk 14:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added this tool ("Milestone") to the page.  -- John Broughton   (♫♫) 14:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milestone Edits 

message: There are counters for the contribs to a page, but a visit counter for a page would be nice to have (forgive me if this is too difficult/impossible for script writers to do, I know 0 programming languages :-P ).  ~Steptrip 22:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To make a completely accurate hit counter, we need access either to the Apache server logs, or to the MediaWiki database. However, we a) don't have access to either one, and b) visitor data isn't kept anyways, as it takes away the advantage of having a Squid cache server. There's approximations, such as  WikiCharts. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 03:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the input, I figured that it would be impossible to do.  ~Steptrip 19:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visit Counters 

message: Why do I get such enormously different edit counts with this and this? --Smokizzy 15:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The first counter you linked is based on the m:toolserver, which has been having problems 'replicating' edits from the English Wikipedia (specifically English, and specifically Wikipedia) for ages, and therefore gives an out-of-date result. The second counter is based on Special:Contributions, and so should be up to date. --ais523 15:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help? 

message: Can anyone tell me if it is possible to make an internal in Wikipedia for the following link.
**Interiot's edit counter, external website, nothing to install, written in perl (aka Tool1, wannabe_kate) (screenshot)
Surely it is possible to create a link since it is still part of the Wikipedia network.  PLease reply on my User talk page.  Cheers. pizza1512 Talk Autograph 18:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not possible, actually, because the toolserver is not defined as part of the Interwiki map. Maybe that is something that would warrant fixing. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 19:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've requested it (just 4 months late!) Neil ム 13:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kate's Counter Internal Link 

message: Exactly how many edits does he have? Many of the external editcounters stop and say he has too many. I quote: "too many pages, terminating" and many different error notices. Thanks, Razorclaw 21:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Flcelloguy's Tool:

Statistics for: Bryan Derksen
(Permissions: N/A)
- Total: 78987 -
Main: 66020
Talk: 3450
User: 327
User talk: 982
Wikipedia: 2038
Wikipedia talk: 297
Image: 2039
Image talk: 16
MediaWiki: 1
MediaWiki talk: 7
Template: 361
Template talk: 54
Help: 2
Help talk: 1
Category: 3337
Category talk: 53
Portal: 2
-------------------
Total edits: 78987
w/ edit summary: 72342 (91.58%*)
w/ manual edit summary: 70676 (89.47%*)
Minor edits: 49522 (62.69%*)
First known edit: Aug 21, 2001
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* - percentages are rounded down to the nearest hundredth.
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Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 06:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: 80280 by the server's editcount field, which uses a slightly different definition of 'edit'. --ais523 14:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  User:Bryan_Derksen 

message: I hope I'm not duplicating another discussion about this at another location, but I've been curious as to the differences between queries made by Kate's tool (and other such edit counters) and those tools that simply query the relevant field in the database (such as query.php and Special:Preferences).  For example, using Kate's tool, I get 3940 edits and 252 deleted edits, while my Preferences page shows 3980 edits.  — Super-Magician (talk • contribs •  count) 01:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Kate's tool has a lag. Neil ム 08:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Toolserver-based tools (like the original Kate's tool) use the toolserver's local copy of the database, which isn't updated in real-time (instead, the real database, minus some private information like passwords, is copied over to it every now and then). Screen-scraping tools (like my edit counter and Interiot's "Wannabe Kate" counter) work by looking through Special:Contributions, and therefore count the number of non-deleted edits you have plus the number of automatic null edits that are created when you perform other actions (for instance, when you move a page, that counts as 2, or 4 if you move the talk page as well, due to the entries in the old and the new edit history that notify that it's been moved); a deleted edit counts as 0, and there's no lag. The server's database field (shown on Special:Preferences and accessible via query.php) counts edits in real time too, but uses a different definition of 'edit'; editing a page counts as 1, even if the edit is later deleted, and moving a page - or anything else that isn't technically an edit - counts as 0 (the automatic null edits that appear in your contributions aren't counted). I hope that helps to clear things up! --ais523 09:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between Kate's tool and database lookup 

message: I requested the Tools: prefix to be added to the m:Interwiki map.  It has now been added, so, for example, one could link to Interiot's tool using Tools:~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate - like so: Tools:~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate.  And as soon as the script copies the map across into the database, that link will actually work. Neil ム 11:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tools: prefix

message: The only counter I can reliably get to work is Wannabe Kate - regular Kate and Interiot just hang there. Am I doing something wrong? Tvoz |talk 07:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah ... they work and then don't work ... I've used three different counters over the past year or so. Squamate  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Squamate (talk • contribs) 18:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it just me?

message: Why is it that the (total) count shown on my preferences page is often different from some of the most commonly used counters (such as Kate's Tool and WannabeKate)? Example: right now wannabekate shows a total count of 14,448 and the my preferences shows 14,533. Which count is more accurate? VanTucky Talk 21:10, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are all, assuming no database lag, of course. The discrepancies have to do with different definitions of what an edit is, as described above. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 22:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense. Thanks, VanTucky Talk 22:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discrepancy 

message: Hey Guys! I was wondering if anybody knows an active page creation counter/list creator? I found the script for one by interion here, but have no idea to implement it (and interion's gone awol). --lincalinca 07:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page creation counter 

message: Hello, since August I try to opt-in to the editcount, but I always have the same error:
*I make the dummy edit: 
*I go to 
*I refresh the page with Shift+Ctrl+R
*I click on the image with "opt-in"
Then the error is:
 Software error:
 Unable to connect to database: Unknown MySQL server host '-p.db.ts.wikimedia.org' (1) at /home/interiot/public_html/perllib/ZedlerUtils.pm line 50. 
 For help, please send mail to the webmaster (toolserver@paperlined.org), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. 
I emailed toolserver@paperlined.org, but I didn't received any answer. 
Please help me.
You can respond me on my page at french Wikipedia: Hercule bzh
--Hercule bzh 16:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unable to opt-in 

message: Is there any edit counter to find out when editors edit? I saw a recent graph were the editor compared the edit times of two editors too find a sock.  Is a edit counter like this available? Travb (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a new feature to my edit counter (User:ais523/editcount; as it's a user script, it requires installation on your username, but that isn't complicated) to do this. It isn't even as slow as the other features of my counter! --ais523 16:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Compare edit times of two editors

message: On Interiot's Edit Counter, what does the Opt-in mean? It has a lot of graphs underneath the words and semi-transparent black screen. Simply south (talk) 01:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's to do with German privacy laws. Some features of the counter won't be enabled on a particular user unless they specifically indicate that they want those data to be displayed; if you click on one of those images, it will give you instructions on what to do to enable those features. --ais523 09:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that doesn't work anymore. Sakkura (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. What would it have been doing? Would it mean, or example, showing graphs and information for everyone to see. Basically, opt-in for what? Simply south (talk) 23:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the opt-in would let the data for your account be displayed by time and by the type of page edited, with those graphs you can see in the background (or on the page for those who have already opted in). Apparently German law wouldn't permit showing that information to everyone unless the user opted in. Sakkura (talk) 08:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That explains things quite clearly. Thank you both. Now i wish it would say that on the edit counter, instead of showing "Opt-in" with no explanation as to what for. Simply south (talk) 10:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interiot's EC query