Talk:Collars in BDSM

message: Why are there only pictures of women wearing collars? Could that be changed to be a bit more gender-balanced? Unfortunately, I can't provide any pictures of collared people myself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.190.198.64 (talk) 08:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: For the most part this article is balanced. The following is not NPOV:
:In the old guard leather community there were three stages of collaring. These are still informally followed by some in the BDSM community. The "collar of consideration" was the first and roughly analogous to a pre-engagement ring. This collar could be removed at any time by the submissive with no ill will and the relationship would be ended. The "training collar" is roughly analogous to an engagement ring and indicates a deepening relationship in which the submissive is being prepared by the dominant to serve to the standards the dominant wishes. Again, the submissive may ask to be released but the break is considered more serious and painful for both parties. Finally, the "slave collar" is analogous to a wedding band and at this point the submissive is considered a formal slave and owned by the dominant. In the old guard leather community this was considered permanent with no chance to end unless the submissive was released by the dominant for some exceptional reason. Simple failure of service was not adequate since that showed a failure on the part of the dominant as well as the slave. As with engagement and wedding rings there are traditions with collars in regard to type of materials and colors that are appropriate to each type, usually becoming more elaborate.
"Which 'old guard'?" Would be a very valid question here. As there is little documentary evidence, I believe the best thing would be to set this an example of their symbolism and function in that culture. It should not be stated so categorically. Erraunt 16:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV concerns

message: No mention of electro-shock collars? None that shock the wearer when they leave the collars boundaries(such as a house)?Wikiposter0123 (talk) 06:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Electro-shock collars

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message: This section (particularly the "The spikes are considered to be dangerous, and such collars are used with care. Some wolf collars have the spikes coated in plastic for added protection" part) seems highly inaccurate, as it seems to mix up wolf collars and prong collars. Wolf collars have outward-facing spikes (traditionally to protect a dog's neck from getting bitten by another animal), while prong collars have inwards-facing spikes to discourage a dog from pulling on the leash. The linked page also seems to mix up the two (despite having a separate section on prong collars), and also seems to be just a random, outdated page and not a particularly credible source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.166.186.36 (talk) 22:58, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wolf collar" section inaccurate