Talk:Stephen MacKenna

message: This article is about an important subject, and ought to be rated higher than it is.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.238.204 (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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message: I spent some time organizing this page and including more citations. The writing itself has only been changed in a few places, but I thought that the changes I made were enough to warrant an improvement from "Stub" class to "C" class as per the assessment scales of Project Ireland and Project Biography.
If anyone has any comments or constructive criticism, please let me know as this is one of my first major edits for a person. Thanks. Tkbrett (talk) (contrib) 23:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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message: Unfortunately, the only photo of MacKenna I have been able to find seems to still be under copyright protection. Discussion from the Media copyright questions page has been re-posted below:
I've been working on the page for Stephen MacKenna. I want to include a photograph or painting to improve the page, but I have only heard of two:
a chalk portrait by Leo Mezner was presented to the National Gallery of Ireland by J. M. Hone, 1934, while another with Lord Ashbourne and (poss.) Dominick Spring Rice is held in the Gallery. 
http://www.ricorso.net/rx/az-data/authors/Mac/M-Kenna_S/life.htm
The only picture I have actually seen is of him on the cover of a book of his letters: it's on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Journals-Letters-Stephen-Mackenna/dp/1597313181
Can the portrait on the cover of this book be screen captured  and uploaded, or does this not fit the copyright requirements on Wikipedia?
Thanks, --Tkbrett (talk) 19:32, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have the book, what does the content tell us as to the origins and date of the photo? --Orange Mike | Talk 19:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have the physical book, but the preview on Amazon shows the portrait again on one of the first few pages, and only says: "Stephen MacKenna at forty. From an oil painting by Amy Drucker." I don't see any other information in the Amazon preview, a reverse Google image search didn't reveal anything, and I'm not sure who Amy Drucker is... hmm... --Tkbrett (talk) 19:51, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that if he was forty in the picture, then it would have been done circa 1912 (he was born in 1872). --Tkbrett (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Amy Drucker died in 1951. Her works are presumably still under copyright unless published before 1923. I don't know, given the information at hand, how you can establish the publication date for this particular image. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo).  Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 12:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this worldcat search result the book was first published in 1936, so it appears this painting was not published before 1923 and, based on the death date you provided, her work is still in copyright until 2022. It looks like you are out of luck unless you claim it under our strict non-free policy which is allowable for deceased people. ww2censor (talk) 13:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks for the help guys! Unless I find another photo, I guess I'll report back in 2022! Appreciate the help --Tkbrett (talk) 00:03, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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