Talk:Dave Brock

message: I'll try and address the issues user:Gingrichrook has raised regarding Brock's role in Hawkwind:
*"the founder" - it would be difficult to justify a claim that he was the sole founder, strictly speaking it was his meeting with John Harrison that was the genesis for the band, so I've left this this as "one of the founders"
*"leader" - over their forty years lifespan, it would be difficult to rebuke this claim. Of course, I wouldn't want to diminish the role other players brought, but they always worked within Brock's framework.
*"chief music writer and arranger" - I think the writing credits of each album would back this claim.
*"for the most part, the lead singer" - As band members tend to sing their own songs, and as the majority of songs were written by Brock, then this claim is justified. The exception, of course, is the three years (1976-78) when Calvert was dedicated lead vocals, but the three years in a 40 year history is why "for the most part" is stated.
 
As far as chief writer and arranger goes ,thats crazy,thats your opinion,not a fact.Who wrote Master of the Universe ,Brainstorm,Sonic Attack,Realms ,Wings, Robot ,Silver Machine,Dying seas,Motorhead,Dreamworker,Dangerous Vision,Waiting for Tomorrow,Moonglum,Ejection,D-Rider,Tv Suicide,Lost Johnny,Watcher, and on and on. He is not and never has been the chief song writer. He is one of the writers. Who was Bob Calvert? Who was Nik Turner? Who was Alan Davey ? Who was Lemmy? How many songs on DOREMI ,Space Ritual ,Warrior ,PXR5 , etc.,did he write BY HIMSELF?.......And as far as the lead singer goes thats your opinion not fact.Ever hear of Nik Turner,Ron Tree,Bob Calvert,Capt Riz,Bridgette Wishart,Alan Davey,LEMMY,etc. Lead singer on what,who sang lead on the  biggest Hawkwind songs ,Silver Machine,Brainstorm,Master of the Universe,Watcher,Realms ,Lost Johnny,Spirit of the Age,Quark,Pxr5,Death Trap,and on and on ? Wasn't Brock was it. What about leads on albums Space Bandits,Quark,Palace Springs, ,pxr5,astounding sounds,Alien ,etc. Why so biased against all other members? ..... And as far as Klute goes did you bring up all the Hawkfans who were messing with his file? Are you sure you want to talk about non payment of royalties or not getting prior permission for releases in the bios ? Do you want me to fill the bios with quotes with POV's on Hawk members royalties not paid from all the books like the other hawkfans do to Klute? Do we really want to read that sorry story again here after those two books made them look so bad? I mean Hawk fans talking about someone not paying royalties on that little item from 2004 is kind of silly isn't it ,considering the Voiceprint,Space Ritual 2 ,Yuri ,Hawkstra, Magma ,etc.,situations. I came on to read about the wonderful songs,the tours I saw,the songs, Stacia,Space Ritual era and all these bios are filled with items about firings of band members all slanted in Brocks favor. For example,why talk about Nik Turner being fired in the article?  What about his songs ? In the whole Hawkwind and Nik Turner bios not one mention of "Brainstorm " or "Master of the Universe",but personal problems mentioned everywhere .—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingrichrook (talk • contribs) 02:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brock's role in Hawkwind 

message: There's no point in selectively editing Brock's personal info - either put it all in there or leave it all out. I think that perhaps it is too invasive, and so have removed the section entirely. — Drwhawkfan (talk) 13:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: Presently the article asserts that 'from the start' (1969) Brock's influences with Hawkwind included bands such as Neu and Kraftwerk. Both of these bands were formed many years after Hawkwind's first recordings, so whereas I don't dispute that they may have BECOME influences, it's logically impossible for them to have been original influences. Braka (talk) 20:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can understnad why you have raised this issue, and I am happy to accept solutions you provide. I suppose the problem is with the stated intention of Brock from the outset of Hawkwind to "marry simple three-chord rock music with experimental electronic music", I'll see if I can find a reference for that. As for influences, the "cites his influences for the band at the time as The Moody Blues, Steve Miller Band and the krautrock scene of Kraftwerk, Neu! and particularly Can" comes from a 1972 interview, perhaps we should change "at the time" to "early in the band's evolution". — Drwhawkfan (talk) 22:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Brock - Hawkwind influences 

message: This article is a bit thin, I suspect a great deal has been taken out but this should be a warts and all account of Brock's career. Would not harm to make it clearer that most of Hawkwind's work was collaborative even if Brock was the constant. 
And shouldn't the article mention Dr Technical, Brock's 'alter ego'?Stub Mandrel (talk) 18:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  a Bit Thin