Talk:Virtuti Militari

message: Armando Diaz was Duce (or Duca) della Vittoria, which means leader of the victory, not Duke of Vittoria. --Panairjdde 12:05, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duke of Vittoria 

message: I will PR this and FAC soon. It looks as good as current FA Medal of Honor. One major problem though - no references. Contributors, please list them here - we cannot FAC it without them! After reading the article, I think there is one inconsistency or missing part: what about medals awarded by Polish government in exile and their (or lack of) recognition by People's Republic of Poland? This should be expanded. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:09, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well? If it had references, it could be nominated to FAC this instant... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:45, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I will see what I can do. Since I feel safe that my FAC, Order of Canada, will be promoted, I will try to find some sources. Though, I do have an issue with the tables on the page. I believe we could remove some names from the tables, mainly those who do not have articles from Wikipedia. I also want to find the source about Bhreznev's award being revoked posthumously. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:58, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC soon 

message: I believe most of the resources I could find are either Wikipedia mirrors, stuff we already have, or it is in Polish. Can someone help me sift through it? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 4 July 2005 21:16 (UTC)
: I couldn't find much, but at least we have one printed references and several elinks - not much, but enough, I think. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 9 July 2005 17:32 (UTC)
::I added some sources. Most of them I simply browsed through some year or so ago. There are more biographical dictionaries, but I can't say much about them. Sadly, I can't tell whether there are some decent English monographies. Halibutt 01:18, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
:::We can always add Polish links, but mark it as such. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:36, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: My father recently passed away and I am in the process of preparing a tombstone. He had the VM (5th class) and Cross of Valour with 3 bars from service in the Free Polish Airforce in WWII. Does anyone know whether it is appropriate, or even done, to place some sort of designation of these awards onhis tombstome? And, if so, what are the correct abbreviations if any.
Thanks
--Vumba 13:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It definitely is appropriate and, what's more, it's often seen at Polish cemeteries. At times people simply attach the natural-size VM to the tombstones, but one could also see large scale replicas included as part of the tombstone sculpture (see right for the tomb of Stanisław Skalski). Being a VM recipients is definitely something one should be proud of (not to mention triple KW). //Halibutt 10:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Question''' 

message: This FA is listed under "article with invalid ISBNs". Some of the main editors who contributed here should address that by providing the right ISBN. It seems to stick out being the last line of the article. Idleguy 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  One of the ISBNs was cancelled.  Mentioned that, and added Library of Congress control number for that book. Balcer 04:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I've polished the citation information even further, since the article remained tagged as having an invalid ISBN. I'm hoping formating as it is now will avoid the BOTs flagging this with an invalid ISBN again, since I agree with Balcer that this ISBN has been cancelled. If the BOTs pick it up again and tag this article as having an invalid ISBN I suggest we simply exclude the ISBN all together. The LCCN and the OCLC are adequate for identifying the source. Keesiewonder 01:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: A more senior editor informs me that SmackBot will indeed pick up on the cancelled ISBN and reflag the article. I will next remove the reference to the ISBN entirely so this FA is free and clear of that error tag, and specifically contact Balcer on his/her talk page. Kind Regards, Keesiewonder 02:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: For safe keeping, and possibly now tagging of a bad ISBN on this talk page, the infamous and cancelled I.S.B.N.is.0934527009. Keesiewonder 02:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invalid ISBNs 

message: Now its getting worse.
I've requested protected status for this article, just until the vandalism kick wears off a bit. --Kinu t/c 06:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could we track down this vandal by his IP and get him charged with a hate crime? The pictures of Hitler and "Poles must be destroyed" comments going along with them fall squarely into this category. Balcer 07:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately (or fortunately) no... hate speech isn't necessarily hate crime. Plus, someone who is doing this isn't worth the time it would take to do anything more than a simple ban. Bigjake 08:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Did the article just get deleted? - SpLoT / (talk) 07:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Some of the vandalised versions are still in the history.  Could they be removed as well? Balcer 08:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: User:AmiDaniel is working hard to keep the integrity of the article intact... there was some racist vandalism that needed to be removed, and what you saw was a momentary unavailability of the article while he fixed that.  Cheers.  -/- Warren 08:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The link on the main page looks ok to me. Try again. I think you must have clicked the link when the history clean-up was going on. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been semiprotected for almost two hours now. I'm going to unprotect it and see how it goes. —Angr 10:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me (today's FA really shouldn't have even been sprotected this long, but they were unique circumstances) -- he seems to have given up. Just please oh please, keep a close eye on it, as I'm off to bed :D. AmiDaniel (talk) 10:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay. It's on my watchlist, and where I am it's only 11:30 AM, so bed is still several hours off for me. —Angr 10:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks like you'd better protect it again 220.240.233.150 11:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection Requested 

message: The paragraph is of low quality.
Xx236 16:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  People's Republic of Poland 

message: "sieg ****ing heil" is not the best beginning i've seen. It's been deleted now, but i put a  on it to make sure it deesn't re-occur I hope it was the right thing to do TDN 20:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for wanting to help, but putting  on doesn't actually protect the article. Only admins can protect articles, and it's common practice not to protect the day's Featured Article unless the vandalism is coming so thick and fast we can't keep on top of it. —Angr 21:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I know it's frustrating, but sprotecting the day's featured article would be really bad PR. Wikipedia's whole gimmick is that we're the encyclopedia anyone can edit -- and preventing editing by non-logged-in users on each day's single most visible article would completely undermine that. Wikipedia's critics would have a field day with what they would perceive to be hypocrisy on our part if we regularly protected the FA. —Angr 22:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I just needed to air this. Thanks for taking time to explain this, anyway :-) --Lysytalk 22:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with Lysy. Few months ago I did an analysis of few featured main page articles, and 90% of edits were vandalism, 9% were minor changes. I really wonder if the 'publicity' argument is worth so much wasted time in terms of good editors having to revert and police the article, and edit history being warped by hundreds of v/rv. Yeah, I know Raul has a subpage about it, but I had to air this, too :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I propose moving this article to Order of Virtuti Militari as it seems that is the correct English name for this order. Before I submit a "requested move" I'd like to know if there's any controversy as to what the correct name is. Seeing as the article is a FA this would be a significant change. JRWalko 19:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct name?

message: Hello, I am from Serbia and respectfully relate to this the Order. In one book I found that the President of the Polish government in exile Władysław Sikorski awarded the   General Draža Mihailović Order of Virtuti Militari the spring of 1943. Can anyone confirm this for me, I'm interested for the Polish sources. I've read that Sikorski sent a mission of the Polish resistance movement in order handed him a medal, but the mission was captured by the Germans, so that General Mihailovich was never delivered to Order. Thank you in advance.--Свифт (talk) 14:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: General Draža Mihailović

message: The article as it now stands alleges that the award "is considered to be the oldest military decoration in the world still in use".  If we can't substantiate that (and the source cited does not, to this unpracticed reader of Polish's eyes, do so), this should be corrected:  the American "Purple Heart" is older and very much still in use, and pride of place is alleged for that instead; and other awards might be older still.  Firstorm (talk) 18:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot verify this in the ref, hence I support moving the claim to the talk. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  20:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Oldest"? 

message: This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: B-class review

message: An additional holder of Virtuti Militarii was the deceased Maksymilian Sznepf, who was awarded the cross before 1988. Please add his name to the list. I saw the rosette in his lapel when I met with him and his son, the Polish Ambassador to the United States confirmed the fact when I met with the latter last Tuesday.
Thank you.
Mr. Posen (talk) 14:33, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Copied from Template talk:Editnotices/Namespace/Category All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:28, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another holder