Talk:Christianity/Archive 18

message: I'm not sure it's reasonable to provide links to the Rosicrucians and the Syriac Orthodox, but not the Mormons or Baptists. I think these could use some pruning, keeping in mind that this is the general survey article about Christianity. Anything linked from here should have some element of universality, as well as the usual requirements of content and notability. Tom Harrison Talk 17:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I apparently tried to get out the anonymous Jesus Christ absolutely is the Messiah addition and knocked out HK03's "a character" addition to the intro.  Two opposing POVs knocked out in one revert..... do I get a prize for this?
KV 18:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps there is a POV blasting barnstar somewhere? :) Homestarmy 19:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two [[Bird]]s with one [[Stone]] 

message: We have in the article, a quote: In the Christian scriptures, the name "Christian" (and so by implication "Christianity") is first attested in Acts 11:26: "For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch Jesus' disciples were first called Christians" (Gr. χριστιανους, from Christ Gr. Χριστός, which means "the anointed one").
Does anyone know the version of the bible this comes from so I can properly cite it?  I'm planning on personally citing some of these claims.
KV 18:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find out which version it is; however if you go here this site will let you look up the same passage in multiple versions. The New International Version is very close to what is here. DJ Clayworth 18:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version of Bible 

message: I see the external link that talked about the origins of Christianity from the non-mainstream POV has been removed, once again. I won't put it back myself, this time. I don't think its productive to contribute to that edit war over the link. So, I'll leave it out, and seek a better link that presents the same POV, that should at least be allowed one external link.  I'm sure there are beter ones anyway. Hopefully, I'll find one that is up to the quality standards for consensus support, although I have a feeling that its more to do with the POV than the quality, but we'll see. Giovanni33 08:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So this is the link I found to replace the other one which was causing a bit of an edit war. Ostensibly the objection was one of qualty not POV, so I found a secular persepective that was informative on the history of Christianity but yet scholarly and higher quality standards: *The Bible And Christianity - The Historical Origins A rational, secular, historical perspective on the history of Christianity and its scripture. Enjoy the read. It has some good links to Burton Mack and other sites, as well. Its well referenced and has some good book recommendations. Its a long read but I like to read. Overall better quality than the other site but still presenting a non-Christian traditional view, which is all that I required to be given a voice as one link in this externa link section. Giovanni33 08:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't care who Scott Bidstrup is (anymore than any reader to any article on Wikipeadia should care who the editors are---they could be anonymous for all that matters), what matters is the POV that is articulated and the quality of the references for the information that it presents, which is good. I see no reason why the main Christianity article can't have at least one external link that presents a non-orthodx view of its history. I'm replacing the link. Giovanni33 22:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Why is the entry from some other wiki about Christianity being removed over and over with apparently no mention of it in the edit summaries? It seems we have 2 "suppressed links" now. Homestarmy 20:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I initially removed it the other day because it didn't seem to be working, though I see it works now. I don't know why Alienus removed it today. Tom Harrison Talk 20:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: edit war over link