Talk:Carly Simon

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The birth records prove she was born in 1943. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhatsTheTruth00 (talk • contribs) 
:Wikipedia is here to tell the reader a summary of what has been published in mainstream literature. It's not here for you to pursue private investigations of birth data. The policy WP:DOB throws ancestry.com out as a source for a living person. Binksternet (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather than being an issue of WP:NOR, this is issue of WP:CONFLICTING. The majority of WP:RS, and most recent sources, indicate a birthdate of 1943. The earliest records on Ancestry (birth record, 1950 census record), just happen to confirm this. The Encyclopedia Britannica source is clearly in error, and this should be added to WP:EBE.--Samp4ngeles (talk) 03:05, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carly Simon was born in 1943 

message: The "Covers and tributes" section has moved the article into WP:SYNTH territory, combining references to make a larger conclusion not found in any of the references. The larger conclusion is implied that Simon's songs are widely covered, which is true, but each source only proves one cover, and no source talks about the wider "tribute" idea. The section should be based on WP:SECONDARY source providing a bigger picture of how Simon's songs are popular with musicians. 
Especially problematic is the listing of inconsequential and insignificant cover versions such as Mandy Moore's version of "Anticipation", which nobody has ever praised in a publication. Adam Sandler sang "Nobody Does It Better" but the single performance had no lasting effect. All of these should be removed. Binksternet (talk) 17:36, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is also a problem with WP:INDISCRIMINATE, by inserting trivial factoids based on passing mention of the song in album tracklists or concert setlists. The cited source songmeanings.com fails WP:USERG. Three different album tracklists supported by AllMusic mention a cover version in passing without saying that it was a standout performance, and none of these three provide support for how "diverse" are the artists. The Stereogum cite says that Morrissey released an album full of cover songs with one of them being by Simon, but it doesn't say anything about the Simon cover being important in any way. Binksternet (talk) 20:55, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Covers and tributes" section a mess 

message: Folks, I just culled a massive number of WP:IMDBREFs out of this article. IMDB is WP:USERG and never to be used as a WP:RS.
I also removed two sources that were obvious WP:MIRRORs of our WP:DOY articles.  Almost all of the discussion on this page is about editors trying to use lousy sources like IMDB, goodreads, ancestry, etc.  Please familiarize yourself with WP:RS guidelines and make sure your sources aren't WP:RSP, WP:MIRRORs, WP:USERG or otherwise low quality.  Toddst1 (talk) 13:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:IMDBREF]] and [[WP:MIRROR]] - quality of sources matter 

message: Currently being discussed at BLPN. Afterward, it might be useful to list all reliable sources on the topic if there's still a dispute. --Hipal (talk) 22:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Year of birth

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message: For anyone with more experience this in area, does this article pass the B-Class criteria? It appears so to me, but I wanted to reach out before making any changes. Any help or feedback is greatly appreciated! Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 15:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: All, I went ahead and updated the Class from C to B as it appears to pass all B-Class criteria. If this is incorrect, please revert back to C! Thanks! Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 01:25, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-Class article?