Talk:Jane Alpert

message: Thank you for the information.  Although Jane was not a direct member of the Weatherman Organization it is interesting to lean about how her actions effected the group.  The Weathermen should have responded to her criticism, this might have boosted the publics confidence in them. Lalalajane (talk) 09:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that consistency in reference format is desirable (although not absolutely necessary). So why not bring the old references up to WP:CITE standards, including the ability to link directly to an online source, rather than reverting newer standard-format ones, as someone is doing right now with Alpert(1981) refs?   --CliffC (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As an example of what I mean,  this edit from last night substitutes an inert reference for a clickable, searchable online reference to Alpert's 1981 book.  Such changes harm the article.  --CliffC (talk) 15:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About

message: Comment: References make more sense when they are posted in a consistent format, thats why I reverted to the older version.  The opening is more on target now also.Lalalajane (talk) 03:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that consistency in reference format is desirable (although not absolutely necessary). So why not bring the old references up to WP:CITE standards, including the ability to link directly to an online source, rather than reverting newer standard-format ones, as someone is doing right now with Alpert(1981) refs?   --CliffC (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As an example of what I mean,  this edit from last night substitutes an inert reference for a clickable, searchable online reference to Alpert's 1981 book.  Such changes harm the article.  --CliffC (talk) 15:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I have restored cited and verifiable material recently removed from the article, and the entire lead section.  The cited material comes from reliable sources; please do not remove it without good reason and discussion on this talk page.  
According to WP:LEAD, 
 – that's what I've tried to do.  Without the bombings Alpert (and for that matter Sam Melville) would not rate an article on Wikipedia.  The bombings and what ensued are facts, they are what make her notable, all else is secondary.
IMO this article still needs a lot of work; I hope people will add additional cited (and accessible online) material from "reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy".  --CliffC (talk) 21:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment:  I agree that the cited material should be restored, however I do believe it fits better somewhere else in the article and not the lead.  As it stands right now, I feel the lead should be only about Jane Alpert and her contributions to Weathermen, SDS, and anything else she has accomplished throughout her life.  Her involvements with Sam Melville seems more appropriate in the body of the article.  I do believe that Jane Alpert warrants an article by herself, she has done/acheived notable things without the assistance of Melville or anyone else that the lead of the article should acknowledge that.  It is my suggestion that the article be reverted to a previous change by Jjs8.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjcjaj (talk • contribs) 05:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment:  It seems that Jane Alpert deserves her own article with out numerous mentions of Sam Melville.  Although he was part of her life, she did write "Mother Right" and was vocally critical of many leftist activist groups she had once been friendly with.  I think the original lead (with some extra content if demanded) should be reinstated.  But it does not and should not focus on Melville, since the entry is not about him. Lalalajane (talk) 03:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My response below addresses these comments as well.  I don't see the focus as being on Melville, but on Alpert's notable acts.  --CliffC (talk) 03:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cited material restored 

message: Hey folks, the last couple of edits are stepping very close to edit warring. I suggest bringing issues with the article to this talk page, discussing those changes, and trying to reach consensus on them. As it is, a couple people have removed cited material, which is unacceptable without consensus. Murderbike (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring 

message: What about what she's been doing for the past 30 years? Badagnani (talk) 08:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. There are many Jane Alperts; that is not the article subject.  --CliffC (talk) 01:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More recent  

message: Mark Rudd on his blog says Alpert and Robin Morgan sold him and his wife out to the police.--Radh (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So what? This isn't a gossip website. Rybu (talk) 07:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not so pure, our heroes?--Radh (talk) 08:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't understand whatever it is you're trying to say.  Is there a point?  Rybu (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know about your life, in my life it would be quiet something to sell out my friends. If this is not relevant for Wikipedia,  maybe the whole Jane Alpert is not so relevant?--Radh (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I think you're confused about the nature of Wikipedia.  This isn't facebook or a gossip forum.  See []. Rybu (talk) 08:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traitor to Mark Rudd and wife? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: According to this article, Jane Alpert's life ended in 1981.  Seriously, has anything happened since? J S Ayer (talk) 03:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing decades