Talk:Dan Henderson

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message: Given the lack of discussion on the merits of the edit I have made this edit that adds an explanatory note about his height differing amongst reliable sources. As per WP:RS: . Sources clearly differ as to his height. This solution uses an explanatory footnote to explain to the reader that the sources differ. For the avoidance of any doubt I deem this edit to make me WP:INVOLVED and I will not be carrying out any admin actions in relation to this article. Woody (talk) 10:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted your changes to the footnote surrounding his height based on the note about WP:RS above.  Please note that where two reliable sources conflict, we have to show that conflict in the article. We can't choose which one we prefer, we only go off what the sources tell us. In this case they tell us two different things which is what is reflected in the article. Please note that your edit also wasn't formatted correctly and broke the reference templates. Woody (talk) 09:35, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height edit 

message: I am here to suggest a clear way to end all discussion related to Dan Henderson height, revert "note edits" as this make no sense being posted next to height. Dan Handerson height is 6"1. Dan Handerson page been reviewed/improve for more 9+ years with 6"1 height. The uncalled for heavy page protection locked regular MMA editors away from regularly improving Dan Handerson page. The "small issue" was suppose be small not become big. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dan_Henderson&oldid=973683812 < - This is the last stable version as viewed. Kent Bargo (talk) 06:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No. If you could link to a Wikipedia Policy or guideline about this then that would be useful. It is patently obvious that his height is not a clear-cut point. As described above, we have to follow the sources not our own opinions or deductions. Looking at the article history of this page, there isn't a stable version and his height has been a constant point of contention. Consensus evolves as do articles. Get involved in the discussion, cite your sources, cite your policies and let a consensus form. Woody (talk) 08:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The proposal is meant to overwrite "edit" to last stable version which is the one i linked. Per WP:NOT Wikipedia is not "admin" controlled battleground and WP:5P "Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute". No notes needed. The page was "admin protected" locking out regular mma editors from fixing and improving the page temporarily. This "Dan Handerson" page been reviewed and improved more than 9+ years with 6"1 height under project WP:MMA. Kent Bargo (talk) 18:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This has nothing to do with an admin controlled battleground. The article was protected to stop an edit war and to force discussion and consensus on the talk page. So far half of that has worked (the edit war stopped). This article isn't owned by anyone or anything (ie editors or WP:MMA). As you say, this article falls under the 5 pillars. Under those pillars the note is needed as several reliable sources disagree over a point. The 9+ years is irrelevant: many articles are wrong and don't meet our policies and have done for years. The trick is to make sure that are rectified when the issue arises. Woody (talk) 18:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to revert Dan Handerson page to last stable version about height + ending all discussion relating to Dan Handerson Height