Talk:Croatian Democratic Union

message: The party's actual name in Croatian is Hrvatska demokratska zajednica. The translation of "zajednica" - is absolutely not "Union". Its "Community". The party's name accurately translated is, quite unambiguously: "Croatian Democratic Community". I'm not proposing we rename the article or anything, but I think it might be warranted to mention this fact? -- Director (talk) 01:14, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Should be fixed now... 213.149.51.222 (talk) 14:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accurate translation 

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message: Let's not edit war over whether to include centrism in the infobox; let's discuss this instead. I don't believe that centrism should be included in the infobox because it is only a faction of the party. Yes, the party is centrist under Andrej Plenković, but this can be seen as a purely temporary shift that any major center-right party will have. See all of the edits by KungFuBlackjack here and note the clear consensus to remove these temporary shifts. I will remove centrism until a consensus here is developed. Ezhao02 (talk) 14:22, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Do not change sourced data. Centrist path has been chosen with the election of Plenković in march over a centre-right fraction led by Brkić and Stier.DK (talk) 13:44, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read my explanation? I do not dispute that Plenković as leader has led the HDZ onto a more centrist path. However, I highly doubt that this change will be permanent; I believe that the HDZ will remain the major center-right party in Croatia for some more time. If you look at this edit and the following edits on the PASOK page, you can see that Wikipedia avoids showing these small shifts in ideology from leader to leader. Additionally, if you look at the sources you've added, they all describe Plenković or other HDZ members, not the HDZ itself, as centrist. This means that "centrism" would fit better under a "factions" header, although I do not believe this is necessary either. Ezhao02 (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree with Ezhao02. HDZ should only be described as simple 'Centre-right'. The German CDU does not define a political position as 'Centre to centre-right' just because the party is led by centrists.--삭은사과 (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Centrism 

message: I think there should be a separate header for historical political position and ideology for the period 1990-2000 in the infobox. HDZ was much more to the right than it is now Nonamme3 (talk) 18:29, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree and disagree with the revert of the historical positions. It is a fact that HDZ used to have different factions, right-wing to far-right, but such factions seem to not exist anymore. Under Plenković, the party completely transitioned to pro-europeanism and Croatian nationalism, which used to be one of the main ideologies, became irrelevant IMHO. --Koreanovsky (talk) 22:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

text: I totally agree. Looking through edit history, it seems like the nationalist, irredentist and lowkey authoritarian elements of the party and Tuđmanism in the 90s were better represented before. It also seems from the article that the party is much more uniform than it is based on ideology, so a combination of "historical" and "factions" ideology should definitely be added to the infobox. CroatiaElects (talk) 11:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox: historical political position and ideology 

message: Why don't we add a section for corruption and controverses?
There is a lot of materials for that, even for a stand alone page. Borist1337 (talk) 12:49, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corruption and controverses 

message: There really should be a section about corruption. The HDZ has been involved in numerous affairs over the years and it's overall perception in Croatian society is that of a corrupt party. Vv93spst (talk) 10:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Some time ago my plan was to make separated article about all corruption affairs through all the governments but I cancel it after realizing how much time would I spend on that. Maybe in some other form like just the major affairs or only affairs of ministers in government ignoring local branches of the party. Opatijac97 (talk) 00:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Definitely, a Controversies section with major minister affairs, the corruption verdict for the party in Fimi media and possibly the 90s privatization controversies? and yeah also mention the overall perception in society, maybe also how radicalised the public discourse is around HDZ (slogans like "ili hdz ili Hrvatska" and calls to ban the party). CroatiaElects (talk) 11:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add a section about corruption