Talk:List of victims of Nazism

message: Should Erwin Rommel be included in this list? It seems a very loose definition of victim that includes a prominent member of the Nazi war machine. With a definition this loose one could argue that Hitler was a victim of Nazism as its failure drove him to suicide. A clear definition would be extremely helpful.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.200.200 (talk) 00:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rommel, and the definition of "Victim"

message: :Louis Marcoussis
:Maurice Halbwachs
::--Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 11:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the list? 

message: This pges really should be name List of famous Holocaust victoms, analogically to List of famous Holocaust survivors. How do we do this now, since th former page is aloready a redirect to here? Karol 09:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose This list is (and must be)  incomplete; but famous does not need stating; it's policy.  Septentrionalis 19:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Oppose: as noted above, it is assumed in this kind of list that entries are notable. Jonathunder 22:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kind of thought so. In that case, should List of famous Holocaust victims be renamed to List of Holocuast victims? Karol 06:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Oppose and move List of famous Holocaust survivors to List of Holocaust survivors. -Silence 11:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not moved, and moved the other one. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 15:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Strong Support: Unless we're going to have a very long article, move it. 75.118.170.35 (talk) 21:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New name 

message: It's really strange to have to lists in one - by nationality and by occupation, because then everyone would be listed twice. Also, probably occupation should be chosen over nationality, because these people are notable due to their occupations, not due to their nationalities. Karol 16:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections 

message: A cursory glance indicates that there are numerous names of persons who died either 1) beyond the reach of the Nazi holocaust apparatus (like Walther Benjamin, who died on the French-Spanish frontier in 1940), or 2) after the collapse of the Nazi regime (who can claim that Herbert Marcuse, died 1979, was a "holocaust victim"? furthermore, he is listed as a "composer", as is the physicist Max von Laue, died 1960). Why is the British formula-one racecar engineer Paul Morgan, died 2001, on this list, also as a "composer"?
This is an extremely sloppy and misinformed article and serves only to confuse and advance the cause of mistruth and deception. Delete.
: No, don't delete; it's a viable article, but please help sort it out. Why not be bold and make the edits you mention above?  Regards, David Kernow 10:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  reader 

message: Anne Frank was born in Frankfurt am Main, so technically she was German, even though she lived in Holland from 1933 onwards. Shouldn't she therefore be classed as German in the list and not Dutch? --SaraFeodorovna 13:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO yes she should be, I agree with you.Historian932 (talk) 02:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anne Frank's Nationality 

message: Can people such as Canaris really be considered a Holocaust victim?  He and others like him were not presecuted over their ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation or political views, but rather ended up shot or in a gas chamber because they broke serious laws.  In Britain you probably would have been shot for trying to assassinate Churchill.
:Good point he was certainly a victim of the Nazis but not really part of the Holocaust (although you could say he was persecuted because of his political views)…NB Canaris was hanged not shot or gassed.Historian932 (talk) 02:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putschist = Holocaust victim? 

message: I find it offensive that Nazi military officers who were executed after a form of courtmartial are included in this "List of Holocaust victims". The Holocaust is defined in Wikipedia as follows:
:the state-led systematic persecution and genocide of the Jews and other minority groups of Europe and North Africa during World War II by Nazi Germany and its collaborators.
Just because an individual was killed or murdered unjustly by the Nazis does not make the person a Holocaust victim. Reinhold Frank, for example, might have been a martyr, but his death was not part of a genocide and therefore he is not properly called a Holocaust victim.
Unless the article is drastically edited, its name needs to be changed to "List of people who lost their lives as a result of Nazism" or something similar. --Mathew5000 06:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename article [[People who lost their lives at the hands of the Nazis]] 

message: I've cleaned up this page and put the unsorted and commented out entries at Talk:List of victims of Nazism/Sort.  Enjoy. — Reinyday, 00:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: Wouldn't naming this 'List of victims of the Nazis' be more appropriate? After all, Nazism is a political ideology while the Nazis were a group who carried out actions. I doubt Wikipedia would allow a 'List of victims of Communism'. 75.68.6.81 00:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur that the name is erroneous, as is the introduction. A political ideology did not kill these people. They died at the hands or as a result of the actions of the Nazis. My suggestion would be to rename List of victims of the Nazis. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 18:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: A lot of Jews are listed here and their nationality is written as Austrian, Belarusian, etc - Simon Dubnow, Stefan Zweig and others. Austria and Belarus were their places of birth, but isn't it important to note that they were Jews? Is there any reason that they aren't noted as Jews? --Amir E. Aharoni 15:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jews 

message: I do not know how well known he is outside of Unitarian circles, but I would suggest that Rev. Norbert Capek be added to this list.  He was the founder of the Czech Unitarian Church and invented the famed Flower Communion in the Unitarian Universalist faith.  The details of his death in a Nazi concentration camp are available on his Wikipedia page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.49.238 (talk) 03:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norbert Capek 

message: For some reason the list lacks Soviet victims: Musa Cälil, Dmitry Karbyshev, those who died from hunger during the siege of Leningrad (Tanya Savicheva, Yakov I. Perelman, Pavel Filonov, Alexey Troitsky) and many more. Should they all be included? --Blacklake (talk) 14:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet victims 

message: General Maurice Rose's Wikipedia entry states that he was killed after pulling his sidearm while being captured rather than after becoming a POW as stated in this list.  Seems to me that one of these references is incorrect.
Ericpol (talk) 20:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maurice Rose listed incorrectly as POW 

message: I would like to know if there is a master list of victims of Nazism published online?  I have found and downloaded an 87-page document from Yad Vashem that is a starting list.
However, Wikipedia would allow us to sort by last name, country, and such.  I thought that perhaps Wikipedia could work on compiling such a list on Wikipedia.  I realize that it would take several pages.  Is such a task simply too much?Hoops gza (talk) 03:40, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ~6 million names would take more then several pages, but I am not against the concept of such a list. The six million figure is a very notable figure and a very important part of the modern historical era. I have done lots of Holocaust related work recently and on the side have started a list of sourced Holocaust deaths at User:Brewcrewer/Sandbox2. It's not necessarily going to wind up as a list of the 6~ million as you suggested, it's just record keeping for any future type of list project.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: List of victims/Putting together a list on Wikipedia

message: Removed from the list persons killed in action, fallen soldiers are not usually considered victims.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CabbagePower (talk • contribs) 02:59, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , did you remove only uniformed members of regular armed forces, or also members of irregular forces, i.e. underground militias and organized resistance fighters? -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soldiers killed in battle are not usually considered victims 

message: These lists really need to be alphabetized. Most of the names are just in there randomly. Bkatcher (talk) 13:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Organization