Talk:Mario/Archive 1

message: Why can't this entry simply live at Mario? As it is that page redirects here and I can't think of anything else that is only known as "Mario". --mav
We should add in the release dates and systems for the individual games.
--LGagnon
If you want to be technically correct, his full name is Mario Mario. Luigi's full name is Luigi Mario. They are the "Mario" brothers. →Raul654 02:40, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
They need to put more info on Mario, instead of his games!
Wasn't their name Mario and Luigi Fontanelli? 200.45.106.102 23:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: It says that Mario Segali was the warehouse manager. I always thought he was their landlord, though. I don't want to add false information to the article, though. Am I right?
:A lot of early gaming history is clouded in such confusion. It might well be that someone from Nintendo said one thing, and someone else said another. Or maybe he was the landlord of the warehouse? ;) ~ FriedMilk 14:06, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Landlord of their Seattle warehouse, actually. Backed up by other sites and the book Game Over. Fix going in, now. Krupo 02:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario Segali

message: Will people stop changing Mario's name? His full title is Mario Mario, not just 'Mario'. -- Kwekubo 21:10, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: He's known as Mario or Super Mario and nothing else. Putting "Mario Mario" there would be confusing. His full name being "Mario Mario" is anecdotal. It might be a good idea to spell out the full names for real people, but "Mario Mario" isn't used by anybody, not even a birth record. Fredrik 21:22, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: By the way, it has only been used in the movie. Some people would probably not consider secondary products to bear more weight than the average fan fiction. I personally don't. Fredrik 21:27, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, the name "Mario Mario" has never been used in any of the games, which are Mario's main medium. "Mario Mario" seems to be given as much attention from Nintendo as the movie premise that Koopas are humanoids who evolved from dinosaurs... ~ FriedMilk 12:24, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: His full name has been referred to as Mario Mario on more than one occasion by Nintendo Official Magazine UK. I think most sources would recognise it as a valid bit of Mario trivia, so it merits inclusion. -- Kwekubo 23:29, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if there's no reaction by this stage, I guess it's safe to reinsert. -- Kwekubo 23:48, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: Quite frankly, I think that their should be a page for all Mario characters - the good (Mario, Luigi, Toad, etc.), the bad (Bowser, Wart, Kamek, etc.) and the mindless (goombas, troopas, prana palnts, etc.). And, also, the names Mario Mario and Luigi Mario have been confermed by the guy who created Mario (his name, I dont know!).
Both this article and the Luigi article have stated that Miyamoto has said that the brothers' last name (assuming they have one) is Mario. Is there any evidence of this? The movie and animated series carry no weight on this (especially since they were American-made), so is there any proof? -- J44xm 21:48, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario Mario

message: Mario is an Italian-American man, born in the Mushroom Kingdom, and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States.
Okay, I know that that Yoshi's Island game says that he was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, but which game says that he's Italian American or where he was raised?
Actually, he's an Italian-American man, raised in the Mushroom Kingdom, and born in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States. That was confermed by Nintendo. And, by the way, the games give you millions of different stories because there is no continuing storyline bridging each Mario game.
*That's just absurd. How could they have been born in Brooklyn and raised in Mushroom Kingdom? The Stork thing is, like, that the baby isn't really born until it is delivered. Luigi is kidnapped, and Mario lands on Yoshi's Island, and upon saving Luigi and the Stork, the three of them are brought to their parents in the Mushroom Kingdom. And how would they have been raised in the Mushroom Kingdom? He got there as a middle-aged man. The most plausible idea is that they were born in the Mushroom Kingdom, they grew up in Brooklyn, and then returned to the Mushroom Kingdom. -- A Link to the Past 06:44, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
:: is it possible he was 'ordered' for a brooklonian family but redirected or misdelivered?  was he raised by mushrooms?  is peach the only native human to the kingdom?  or is that a fallacy?  it seems that the king is a mushroom, and peach is most certainly not.  perhaps like mallow, she too is under a crazy false pretense?  or can human babies be raised in the mushroom kingdom by mushrooms for reasons yet unknown?  and baby mario, is that like a retconning or a seperate continuity?
::: What in the world? Mario and Luigi were born and raised in the Kingdom. Any Brooklyn ancestry has never been part of anything canonical. -- J44xm 00:21, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
Ahem, let me set this straight! Nintendo says (I can't find where, though) that Mario Mario was born and raised in Brooklyn, and while messing around one day Mario found a secret warp pipe to the Mushroom Kingdom!--VenomousNinja 02:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mario's ancestry

message: There are almost all games featuring Mario in the list, but what about the Gameboy games "Mario & Yoshi" (kind of Tetris) and "Tennis" (Mario is also the referee in the GB-version) ?
--217.232.1.229 18:25, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add them :) Fredrik 18:35, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Games missing from the list

message: I think we could improve this article by moving the full list of games to a List of Mario games and mentioning only the most important ones here. We could then have a fairly lengthy description (1-2 paragraphs) about each game mentioned here, including how it furthered gaming. The list of games here could be split into the main series of platform games (SMB1-3, SMW, Yoshi's Island, SM64, Sunshine), and some of the more important spin-off type games (Super Mario Kart, etc).
Thoughts? Fredrik (talk) 14:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this.  A good "important" list would probably also only include games where Mario is either a playable character or the gameplay revolves around him.  Donkey Kong, all of the Super Mario Brothers/Land/World games, Mario 64, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, maybe Mario 128 , etc. - Plutor 16:45, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Better games overview

message: I've listed Supermario.jpg on Wikipedia:Copyright problems.  If any of you have reasons why it shouldn't be replaced with a screenshot post it there. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:49, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)
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What about the CD-i game "Hotel Mario"? If even the PC edutainment titles are listed up, why not also this CD-i game?
--Luigi 14:08, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Image:Supermario.jpg]] copyright 

message: When was "3D Hot Rally" released? According to the "Monster"-Trophy (SSBM) 
it was also a game featuring Mario.
--Luigi 19:41, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: According to The Mushroom Kingdom and GameFAQs, April 14, 1988. Agent CH 20:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gamelist

message: I came across 1 Vs 3 Minigame Tree and wanted to mention it here so it might get the attention of someone who knows the subject.  Is there an appropriate place to merge this information, or at least somewhere we could link to it?  As it stands now, the article is an orphan.  SWAdair | Talk  06:40, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[1 Vs 3 Minigame Tree]]

message: The current sections are:
# Biography 
# Character development 
# The Super Mario games 
# Other appearances 
# See also 
# External links
For the improvement drive, I think we should start by creating some new sections that make some more sense. Some ideas:
# Appearance
# Abilities and techniques
# Companions and allies
# Opponents
I'm sure there are lots more. Let's create some consensus here before we start randomly editing the article. Jacoplane 23:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: These new sections sound like they'd work. I'd squeeze 'em in between Biography and Character development, myself. Maybe a small section detailing his creation, if one doesn't already exist. --Shadow Hog 02:35, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections

message: Right now, there is way too much information in this article about Mario's clothes and how they have changed over the years. Not only is there an entire section devoted to this, but then we revisit the topic again in the Character development section. This minutia is tedious and unencyclopedic. Could someone please consolidate all of it into something more concise? Thanks! Kaldari 19:37, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, I have recognized this as a potential problem. I'm intending on merging this part of Character development and appearance together, eventually. That's probably the best way to handle it. --Shadow Hog 21:16, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way too much information about mario's clothes 

message: I noticed there where no mention on the "powers" Mario have in the Paper Mario "RPG" game. I've only watched a friend play the game a bit so I don't know enough to feel comfortable about adding it myself, but I seem to recall "powers" like turning into a paper plane, rolling up into a cylinder to roll under obsatcles and stuff like that. Shouldn't that also be mentioned in the section descriping the powers Mario gets from the various powerups and suits in the various games? --Sherool 17:05, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario's powers & Paper Mario 

message: I'm going to try to make Mario an FAC within the next 3 months. Wish me luck! User:Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 18:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going on a quest 

message: Check the site: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario20th/index.html --- Jacoplane 14:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario's 20th birthday 

message: While I can see the need for this section to exist (and my guess is that it was merged into this article from its own stub, since it contained an introduction line (which I've removed now) that sounded like it should have been at the top of its own article) I think that its current position is odd within the article right now.  I mean, putting it after "Abilities"?  Perhaps it would go better somewhat closer to the biography section, perhaps even merged in there as a subsection of biography?  It'd require a little rewording, but I think it'd fit better. Any thoughts? Fieari 19:38, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
:Then make the changes! You shouldn't have to consult anyone in order to move an article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:13, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
::I know that, I was just drawing some blanks on how to reword the Baby Mario section to include it with the biography section, and was hoping someone else might not have the same writter's block.  I've moved the sections around though.  Maybe someone'll notice how strange it looks and come up with a good way to rephrase it. Fieari 02:34, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
I swear I remember at the ending of Yoshi's Island that Baby Mario and Baby Luigi (Mushroom Kingdom natives) were dropped off on the doorstep of a couple in Brooklyn... did this happen, and if so, shouldn't this be acknowledged? - Kevingarcia 06:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The house was a small mushroom house in a small unnamed village of mushroom houses. The Video Game Museum has screenshots. Agent CH 16:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baby Mario 

message: Hi there.... me again:). The image captions really should be more towards WP:CAPTION :) - for example "Mario can ride Yoshi in Super Mario World." should be something like "Mario riding Yoshi in Super Mario World. Yoshi is a common theme among mario games and in some such as Super Mario World, Mario can ride Yoshi. In other games yoshi appears as the main character" or something similar. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 00:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that is prudent in this case. Since the image is placed within the section describing Mario's abilities, the phrase "Mario can ride..." instead of "Mario riding" emphasises that this is an ability. Jacoplane 00:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  image captions 

message: I've been playing around with the layout of images on this page, see the history for details. I felt the old layout was a bit random in terms of placement. Images overlapping section borders are generally not a good idea. But, if anyone feels otherwise, please say so... the changes I've made are very subjective, and we should have consensus on how we feel this page should look. Jacoplane 00:38, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganizing image layout 

message: can you put more about metal mario?
:What did you have in mind?  (Note: you can sign your messages here by putting four tildas (~~~~) after your post) Fieari 20:39, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only things worth mentioning are that Metal Mario is a boss for Wario in Dr. Mario 64, and that he's in SSBM's Adventure. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  metal 

message: The most recent edit has something about a building manager, rent, etc.  Is this sourced? Can anyone confirm this? Kertrats | Talk 00:29, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Mushroom Kingdom's History of Mario has a similar, but not as detailed story. Does that help any? Agent CH 02:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, it's probably accurate, then; I just didnt want complete nonsense added in without any proof. Kertrats | Talk 03:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The story on the classicgaming.com site is accurate, no doubt based on "Game Over", the book referenced earlier on this page. 142.221.110.4 01:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most recent edit

message: I don't think that powblocks should be merged with this article...-VenomousNinja 04:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If it were to be merged, it should be merged with one of the games, not Mario the character. -- VederJuda 04:15, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I see there's a List of Mario characters, enemies and items article. It could go there. Agent CH 04:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powblocks merge 

message: Since we're including a subprofile for Baby Mario on Mario's page, should we also include on on Dr. Mario? Nintendo seems to treat the two as seperate characters -- at least as much so as Mario and Baby Mario -- and there's not much on Dr. Mario the character on the page for the game. Your thoughts? Kidicarus222 20:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dr. Mario

message: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mario_day  (aeropagitica)  16:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD discussion