Talk:Survivor: Micronesia

message: There is a proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Survivor task force#Jury vote tables to list the vote totals in the same order as the names in the finalist row immediately above the vote totals. All interested editors are invited to join that discussion.  Since the Survivor task force appears to be inactive, I'm notifying Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Reality television task force and the talk pages for each Survivor season in order to reach interested editors.  Schazjmd (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survivor jury vote table discussion 

message: Here’s your evidence of disagreement, Vilenski. You can’t fix what isn’t broken just because it doesn’t fit your own arbitrary standards. 78.152.207.254 (talk) 00:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits are pointless and make the page look ugly 

message: I was primarily talking about the voting history charts. The Contestants section is actually somewhat improved, in my opinion. So we can keep that change. 78.152.207.254 (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amending my previous statement 

message: I've completed a requested WP:GOCER copy edit of the article.  Here are my notes:
*I reviewed the naming conventions for contestants and tried to be consistent. Characters in fiction are generally referred to however they are referred to in the work.  For non-fiction, people are generally referred to per MOS:SURNAME, by surname unless they are better known by a stage name or nickname.  I took at look at the GAs Survivor: Borneo, Survivor: The Australian Outback, and Survivor: Cook Islands.  They all use first names or nicknames (how they are referred to in the episodes), except for the sections Future appearances and Controversy.  That sounds about right to me, making the in-show material more understandable and accessible while giving added formality for what happens outside the show.
*I condensed the short plot summaries in the episode table, per request at WP:GOCER and in line with MOS:TVPLOT.  They should all be under the recommended 200 word maximum now, except for episode 13 which is about 250 words. This is the episode where Erik gave up immunity and was voted out. As this is later noted by several sources as a standout moment in the franchise, I felt it was reasonable to give it a little more detail to make that more understandable and thus support the later parts of the article.
*The Cast Table has one column labelled Day, so it is redundant to format the cells beneath as Day #.  The number alone is sufficient, and we should try to conserve space in tables. 
*Someone was changing the dashes around. We use our own Manual of Style rather than following the styling used in sources, so a spaced en dash makes the most sense for .
*At the beginning of reception, there are some statements from Probst and others about favourites/rankings.  I think the article needs to give years there (or the latest season to air at that time) to give context, since there have been a lot more seasons and personal rankings may have changed.
*Some points that might come up at GAN:
**MOS:TVPLOT allows for either a season summary or individual episode summaries in an article, but not both.  I'm unaware if there's an exception for reality competition shows; the GAs noted above do have both, though their season summaries are shorter which may have allowed them to be overlooked.  Be prepared to defend it.  If you have to, the season summary could be shortened to one paragraph and moved to the lead, which would satisfy TVPLOT (make sure the lead does not exceed four paragraphs).
**In the table "Challenge winners and eliminations by episode", The superscripted notes in blue are almost invisible against the purple background of some cells.  I think this violates accessibility policy (See WP:Colour contrast).  I'm not sure what the best way is to address this.  You can try to shift the footnote to another cell, or lighten the colour in the cell.  There is a table at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Colors which shows recommended colours, I think #D5ABFF may be best.
**The lead could perhaps use a rewrite.  There is some information which is only in the lead, and could perhaps be moved down to sections of the body then summarized in the lead. I did this with the viewers' favorite poll in the reunion episode, but left the rest alone.  I feel like the lead is heavy with trivia (eg: the camps from previous seasons reused for this season, the number of jurors compared to other seasons) while not adequately summarizing the episodes (which comprise 70% of the article body). The lead is missing the year that the season was first broadcast.
**In the section Contestants, the villages Airai and Malakal are linked, though the text suggests these links are for the tribes and not the villages.
Please  if you have any questions. Reidgreg (talk) 19:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The superscripts are difficult to see against the purple background on the Season Summary table. I think the easiest solution would be to make the font color (of the superscripts) white to match the normal font color in the purple cells. I'm not sure how to do that, though... I'll look into it. Bgsu98 (talk) 19:23, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reidgreg's copy edit notes