Talk:Picamilon

message: The picture is of the sodium salt form (Pubchem: 3047131), not the acid form (Pubchem: 60608). It should be changed. Fuzzform 02:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will update with an SVG (Ccroberts( t · c · g ) 05:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated with high-res png. took a little longer than expected ;p (Ccroberts( t · c · g ) 14:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structural Inaccuracy 

message: I added some data about Picamilon's elimination half-life that I found on the drug's leaflet.
What the leaflet says exactly is "0.51 hours", which I assumed to be around 30 minutes. Not sure if that is correct (might be 51 minutes).
:Lysergsaure 10:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems like about the right amount of time, as the molecule would be cleaved into gaba and niacin pretty quickly. I can't seem to find the data anywhere, quickly anyway. (Ccroberts( t · c · g ) 14:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elimination Half-Life 

message: There was a wiki link from the word "asthenic" that pointed to Dependent Personality Disorder. I have changed it to point to Asthenia. I'm assuming it was incorrectly pointing to Dependent personality disorder. If I am mistaken, please undo.
APatcher (talk) 03:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asthenia Link 

message: There seems to be little support in the published literature for most of the claims in the current previous clinical studies section of this article.  A quick Google search reveals that picamilon is being sold as a food supplement with claims similar to the ones contained in this article, but again with no verifiable sources to back up these claims.  Finally this article has included a Refimprove banner since September 2007 and with the exception of a few citations that I have added, no one has responded to.  Hence I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that picamilon is an experimental drug with a plausible mechanism of action which has failed to show any clinical benefit.  Unless someone steps foward with reliable sources to support the claims being made about picamilon, I propose to remove the clinical studies section of this article.  Boghog2 (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quackery? 

message: Much of the material contained in this article appears to have been copied verbatim from:
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Therefore In addition to the verifiability issue mentioned above, there is also a copyright violation.  Boghog2 (talk) 09:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright violation

message: Because of the WP:COPYVIO and WP:RELIABLE issues mentioned above, I have deleted the clinical studies section of this article. Boghog2 (talk) 09:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Explanation for deletion

message: It is known for a long time in Nutropics user community that Picamilon originated in Russia since 1969. 
The first scientific paper in the West doesn't mean the authors are the inventors of this medicine.
Please google "Picamilon 1969" or "site:www.springerlink.com Picamilon 1969" to see some interesting result.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.121.207.32 (talk) 07:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for correcting this.  My mistake.  Cheers.  Boghog2 (talk) 08:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin

message: Nowhere in the article is picamilon identified as a GABA analogue, but it is listed in the category of GABA analogues. Is it an analogue? If so, it should be cited in the article. If not, the category should be removed, IMO.  cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 01:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead sentence states .  A structural analog is a compound having a structure similar to that of another compound.  Hence by definition, picamilon is both a GABA analog and a niacin analog. Boghog (talk) 04:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but I'm an 'average reader' of the encyclopedia here - I don't know any of this stuff. The reason it's problematic is because of how I got to this article - I had visited the GABA article; towards the end of the article it has a section on 'GABAergic drugs'; below the table, it lists 'Other GABAergic modulators'; there are three cite requests dating to 2016 in that list; curious, I opened each article for the 'GABA analogues' that were listed, to see why that list was cite req'd; of the four listed, only picamilon didn't overtly state that it's a GABA analogue. That's the twisted path of the editor who likes to either cite or cull cite req'd material. :)  cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 05:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  GABA Analogue