Talk:IBM 700/7000 series

message: FORTRAN Assembly Program (FAP) was a macro assembler for the IBM 709, 7090, and 7094 computers of the 1950s and 60s.
Its pseudo-operation BSS, used to reserve memory, is the origin of the common name of the "BSS section", still used in many assembly languages today for designating reserved memory address ranges of the type not having to be saved in the executable image.
I am going to turn that article into a redirect since it doesn't seem likely it can ever carry a proper article. Up to you guys whether this is worth adding to this article. (note that the claim of origin is contradicted by .bss) Ham Pastrami (talk) 09:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly include this content 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:IBM7040.jpg

message: There is talk of the price or cost of these machines, but they were never sold, only rented or leased.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.77.49.166 (talk) 08:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Price" no longer appears in the article; "cost" does, but machines that are rented or leased have a "cost" just as machines that are bought do. Guy Harris (talk) 23:33, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Price" of machines that were rented or leased but not sold?

message: Any objection to my sorting the lines of the "Timeline" section to make it an actual timeline, that is, in chronological order?  At the moment it's a list of model numbers which happens to mention their introduction dates.  206.205.52.162 (talk) 21:11, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing no objection, this is done.  206.205.52.162 (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Timeline

message: Are the dates intended to be when they were announced (put on sale) or when they were first shipped. 'Announced' I think would be better (if IBM had them working before announcing them?) but the 7040 is noted in 1963 (when it shipped) rather than 1961 when it was announced. We should add "announced" or "shipped" to the date column or qualify each date ? With the 7030 it was shipped in 1961 but it's not clear when 'it' was announced - so perhaps first shipment would be better to use. - Rod57 (talk) 03:02, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't they pre-announce vapor-ware by ridiculous intervals before the consent decree that made them stop that?  Dicklyon (talk) 04:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

text: I would prefer that both dates be given if known. If only one date is given, it should be clearly labeled as announced or First Cusomer Shipment (FCS). Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 18:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Are dates when announced or when first shipped

message: About the caption to the photo, NASA didn't exist until 1958, so in 1957 it was still National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA).  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:56, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  NACA vs. NASA 

message: I recently found manuals at http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/7095/ about an unannounced successor to the 7094. Should the article mention it? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:36, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If we can figure out from the documents on bitsavers enough to say about it, yes.  It *looks* as if it may have been a "last gasp" add-on to the 709x series, with more main memory (18 bit physical addresses), double indexing, supervisor/user mode and memory protection (perhaps inspired by the CTSS add-ons), and support for "NPL", by which I think they mean "System/360", peripherals.  Perhaps the intent was to provide something for customers who needed more than what a 7094 could provide but who weren't yet ready to switch to S/360 (even to an M65 with the compatibility feature). Guy Harris (talk) 20:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  7095? 

message: IBM 700/7000 series#Scientific architecture (704/709/7090/7094) has a section IBM 700/7000 series#Scientific architecture (704/709/7090/7094)#FORTRAN assembly program foor FAP, but not for any other 709x software. Shouldn't there be sections on at least
*COMTRAN
*FAP under IBSYS
* FORTRAN II
*IBCBC
*IBFTC
*IBJOB
*IBLDR
*IBMAP
*IOEX
*IOCS
 Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What software to mention? 

message: Would it be appropriate to add reference manuals for the various 70x/70xx machines. If so, should they be, e.g., given with , listed under external Links, listed in a separate section? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 10:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it would be appropriate.  If they're used as references for claims in the article, give them with , otherwise list them under "External links". Guy Harris (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, as a definition list, except that I couldn't find a 709 manual. I lumped 7090 and 7094 under a single label and I included  for each manual to allow for later use of . --Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manuals?