Talk:Succession to the Danish throne

message: Danish monarchs no longer use crowns, especially not Christian IV's crown.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.92.25.183 (talk) 05:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crowns 

message: Surely the British Royals did not seek approval from the Danish monarch to marry in order to protect any claim they may have? Article intro would suggest they should not be on the list???Astrotrain 21:59, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  British royals 

message: I know you need the monarch's consent, but do you need consent before the wedding?  Could a Danish Prince/Princess marry without the sovereing's knowledge but then get permission or must all marriage be approved of beforehand?  Emperor001 (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Succession to the Throne Act 1953, section 5, sub-section 3: prior permission of King is required.Harlay (talk) 19:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

text: There are two different concepts: permission and consent. Princes and princesses must have the permission of the king to marry. And people in the succession must have the consent of the king in council in order to retain their succession rights. E.g. prince Ingolf, as he was then, got permission but not consent. His marriage is valid, but he lost his place in the succession. --Klausok (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Royal Permission

message: The article states that the then King laid down conditions for the succession rights of children of Princess Benedikte, and of Queen Anne-Marie and her children.  The King cannot acting unilaterally alter the terms of the Succession to the Throne Act.  In the case of Princess Benedikte was the consent to her marriage by the King given in the Council of State made conditional upon the residence of her children in Denmark?  If so can the consent of the King given in the Council of State somehow modify the rights of dynasts under the Succession to the Throne Act?  Did Queen Anne-Marie receive the consent for her marriage by the King given in the Council of State conditional on renouncing her rights of succession for herself and her children, or did she marry without consent or did she renounce her succession rights separately?  I agree that the issue is probably irrelevant now but at the relevant times it was not. There is a remote possibility that it could  become relevant for the future if dynasts were raised outside Denmark. I have tried to research these questions but have not been successful.Harlay (talk) 20:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Peter Kurrild-Klitgaard Professor of Political Theory and Comparative Politics at the Department of Political Science, University of Copenhagen, the consent given by the King in the Council of State to the marriage of Princess Benedikte was subject to a number of conditions concerning the residence of Princess Benedikte, the residence and naturalisation of Prince Richard of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg, and the residence, schooling and naturalisation of their children.  He says that the issue was raised in 1997 when Princesses Alexandra and Nathalie of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg applied for naturalization as Danish subjects.  The Ministry of Justice concluded that the consent given to the marriage had been conditional, but that this was a legal procedure. Professor Kurrild-Klitgaard says "it is nonetheless obvious that conditional consent is not unproblematic, as indeed has been acknowledged by prominent Danish constitutional scholars".  He concludes that there are "serious questions as to the constitutionality of the deprivation of the succession rights of the children of Princess Benedikte". http://www.geocities.com/dagtho/dk-suc-law.html Harlay (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Succession Rights of Princess Benedikte's descendants and of Queen Anne-Marie and her descendants 

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message: I think we should go with the official line of succession as recognized by the Danish government and court rather than include Princess Benedikte's children. The source saying there is "doubt" about their exclusion from the line of succession is a political scientist, Peter Kurrild-Klitgaard, and the only constitutional scholar he quotes is the late Professor Henrik Zahle, who was known for having some very unorthodox views than none of his colleagues agreed with and is only quoted for briefly stating that the children of Princess Benedikte do have succession rights in a general textbook about Danish Constitutional Law without presenting any argument for why that is. As Kurrild-Klitgaard himself says: "It is, however, not clear whether his statement is based upon a critique of the conditional consent given to the marriage of Princess Benedikte or a lack of knowledge about it". That's an extremely thin basis for questioning the view of the Danish state and the court.--Batmacumba (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Their inclusion is merely genealogical and helpful because they are discussed in that section. They are not listed with a number, meaning that they are not presented as being in the line of succession itself, but rather in a sort of limbo. Surtsicna (talk) 23:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  We should use the official line of succession