Talk:Edmund Barton

message: [SOME MATERIAL LOST FROM HERE ...]  that's ridiculous. the fact he was a mason as sourced here  should be known widely in his bio. to call it "link-spam" is almost criminal. Rcm 10:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's rather a bit of hyperbole. You were systematically adding the same text to successive pages in often irrelevant areas with an external link. I took this to be spam. Please integrate the reference with the article, rather than just tacking it on the end.--cj | talk 04:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A mason? 

message: 'Bold textwho was in sir edmund barton's cabinet???
:As far as I can recall, his cabinet consisted mostly of the former Premiers (except the Tasmanian Premier) plus O'Connor and Deakin.Doktor Waterhouse 13:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cabinet? 

message: "This was the price of the Labor Party's support for the government." The reason I deleted the sentence is that it implies (depending which way you read it) that either the ALP or Barton didn't want WAP but accepted it against their wishes in return for forming government. Since they both wanted WAP, there was no "price" to either of them. That is why I think the sentence should be deleted. Peter Ballard 07:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A reference has now been added but all that says is that Barton enacted WAP, not that ALP demanded it, nor that Barton didn't want it. Peter Ballard 07:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Australia Policy 

message: Comments for Peer Review/GA nom welcome. Timeshift 09:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review/GA nomination 

message: It's clear that a lot of work has gone into this article, but the result is rather uneven, in that there is too much about the "Campaign for federation" and not enough about Barton's "Judicial career".  
I found that the Campaign for federation section had so much fine detail that it became like a story, with this happening then that, and did not read like an encyclopedia article at all.  I suggest that this section be cut back a lot.  On the other hand the Judicial career section is very brief, and it would be good to see this expanded, giving coverage to some important cases that Barton dealt with etc.  These revisions would help to better balance the article. 
I'm putting this article on hold as it is close to GA status. However, the issues noted above must be dealt with before GA status can be awarded.  I hope this can be addressed within the seven days allowed by on hold, and wish you all the best with your editing. -- Johnfos 01:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for all the information John. I'll leave this one open to the community. Timeshift 08:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: How come it doesnt have the death dates of some of Bartons children?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.66.104 (talk) 05:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family

message: As the first Prime Minister of Australia, Barton has become something of a national icon, and is remembered for his statement that "For the first time, we have a nation for a continent, and a continent for a nation."
Today, Australians are much less inclined to remember his other well known statement at the time, "I do not think that the doctrine of the equality of man was really ever intended to include racial equality."
The second paragraph is POV/OR especially for the lead so I removed it, but somehow the remover thinks that if the second sentence can't be there, then the first sentence can't be either. Why? It's now a very empty lead and there is nothing wrong with the first sentence. I have no qualms placing the second sentence further down. Timeshift (talk) 22:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits to lead of article 

message: One of the image captions reads: Sir Edmund, aged 65 in 1904
This doesn't add up, but looking at the image itself, I'm not sure whether the mistake is that it should say 1914 instead of 1904, or if it should say 55 instead of 65. Anyone know which is correct? Anoldtreeok (talk) 10:37, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this the photo was taken in January 1914. He was born on 18 January 1849 so in the photo he is either 64 or 65. I've amended the caption accordingly. Melburnian (talk) 13:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image caption 

message: In case anyone's interested in a 1907 speech attributed to Edmund Barton ("we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an Australian and assimilates himself to us..." etc etc) which appears now and again, you can read more about it here. Apparently it is actually a quote from Theodore Roosevelt in 1913, first quoted in the New York Times the day after Roosevelt's death - references to America in the popular internet version have been altered to refer to Australia. It was mentioned in this article but an editor has decided that a quote popularly attributed to Edmund Barton has nothing whatsoever to do with subject of an article about Edmund Barton. I'll not bother to reinstate it because it'll just get eradicated again, but I though this small point of historical interest might be of use to someone. Cnbrb (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You note that a hoax has been identified that seems to have been perpetrated in single email.  Unless the hoax has been widely successful - and I for one hadn't come across it - why should WP bother with it? Wikiain (talk) 22:18, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I just encountered the same hoax on Facebook. So almost nine months later, it is still going around. I don't know if that counts as "widely successful", but it certainly has had a certain degree of success. SJK (talk) 11:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immigration speech 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hyperlink for Glebe in 'Childhood and Education' leads to the article 'Glebe', not 'Glebe, New South Wales'. I guess Glebe NSW was an actual glebe at the time, but the wording seems like it should refer to Glebe NSW Trichosurusvulpecula2 (talk) 10:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the link as a duplicate. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glebe hyperlink