Talk:Joey Harrington

message: I removed criticism of Harrington for not showing tough leadership because it can't be shown that guys who chew out their receivers win in the NFL.  Manning, McNabb, Favre, Gannon and Marino have won only won SuperBowl between them while guys like Montana, Elway and Brady have won more each then those four combined, without being hard on receivers.  In fact Favre is the most mellow of the five guys listed and is the only one who has a ring. --MJR 18:51, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Criticism

message: The back half of this article reads as if it was written by an angry Lions' fan. Examples of POV: 
* "Harrington's career statistics to date are not sparkling"
* "If at a point in the season losses become solely his fault due to inaccurate passes and poor decision making"
* "Harrington has been known to be inconsistent with his footwork which greatly effects a quarterbacks accuracy and often misses many open receivers as a result of what has appeared to be a inability to effectively perceive the circumstances generating on the feild during play"
* "caused by poorly timed and over-excited throws."
I think the article should be stripped down to a brief bio and a summary of his college & pro careers, with no "analysis." The last two paragraphs should be deleted entirely. | Keithlaw 14:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Although the analysis is not perfect I beleive it is relevant to his professional careeer, he does stay on one receiver for too long, often times never making his checks properly, just deciding which receiver he wants to go to before the ball is snapped and following him with his eyes until the receover is either open or he's flushed from the pocket or sacked, its not speculation that he does that and it is effecting his professional career. Its generaly called "feild awareness", harrington has very poor feild "awareness".
If it has nothing to do with his professional career you could remove 
""Harrington has been known to be inconsistent with his footwork which greatly effects a quarterbacks accuracy and often misses many open receivers as a result of what has appeared to be a inability to effectively perceive the circumstances generating on the feild during play""
However I beleive it does, but probably could be scripted better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.10.17.198 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 8 October 2005.
*These are just opinions on the player in question rather than statements of fact. How can you prove that Harrington has poor "field awareness?" I believe that you can't - it's a matter of opinion. It's NPOV unless it can be backed up by something tangible. | Keithlaw 14:58, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: To Kiethlaw

message: In the absence of any constructive suggestions on reducing the POV in the article, I deleted the final two paragraphs and replaced them with a summary of Harrington's statistics over the last three years relative to the league. I also removed the  tag. | Keithlaw 04:35, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, calling other editors "morons" is not acceptable. The issue isn't how you feel when someone disagrees within the acceptable parameters. The issue is how each of you behaves. As a rule you should discuss the content, not the person. If it is getting to where you feel the issue is the person rather than the content, it may be time to start an RfC. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV resolution

message: I know it reads like news, but i can change it sunday or monday. When the seasons all over we can wrap it all together. Mithotyn 19:58, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent contribution

message: I added a section on the controversy surrounding Harrington. I tried to represent the three viewpoints (blame Joey, blame the team, blame management) as fairly as I could, but in the interest of openness, I must confess that I prefer to blame the team and management.--DavemanDeluxe 21:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem at all. The "controversy" (and maybe that's not the right word for it after all) regards why Harrington is playing poorly--opinions vary on that subject. I think it's a useful section because somebody interested in why Harrington is doing poorly might be interested in the various opinions regarding why this is. After reading your comments, I do realize that it needs some re-writing and sourcing to properly fit the style of Wikipedia. I'll sleep on it and work on some editing over the next couple of days. | DavemanDeluxe 02:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I'll leave it alone. I'm not a big football fan, so I can't suggest much in the way of sources, but I would say find reputable analysts who offer specifics on Harrington, rather than the usual "he's not tough enough" sort of blathering. As you fill it out, then I'll look at editing it. | Klaw ¡digame! 02:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

text: This most recent comment contributes nothing to the article and is too much like a forum post.►Chris Nelson 20:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New "controversy" section 

message: Personally, I don't see what's so POV about this section. But this (along with other things perhaps) needs to be updated and expanded (with your help.) Much of the info is from the middle of last season, for god's sake!! It's as though everyone's given up on him... Perhaps they have... :-( GrandmasterkaImpart wisdom 06:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally just removed the really bad part of the old info myself. Grandmasterka 20:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Professional Career

message: Should this guy even have an article this big? If not for a few months of controversy this would still be a stub, the guy will be spending the rest of his short career on the bench and really didn't do anything good with the Lions, seemingly nothing worth remembering at all. Couldn't we just trim it down to a personal bio? Or can I make a large wiki about myself? :p 71.10.17.28 10:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nobody? or Somebody?

message: Just removed "Joey Harrington is a faggot." Someone should put this page on limited edit becuase I dont know how to. The Collector 02:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Vandalism

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