Talk:Clayton College of Natural Health

message: A more descriptive section title should be used per WP:NPOV.  The section really needs some expansion as well. --Ronz (talk) 16:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're proposing a more descriptive section title then please propose something. I named the section "background". I don't like that very much though. TallMagic (talk) 17:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Sounds good. I was thinking along the lines of "History" as well. --Ronz (talk) 19:12, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it is worth, a history section is much more fair than a controversy section. I have posted it elsewhere in this discussion page that the Bear's Guide has incorrect info published about us. We are in the process of updating web pages on our site that will include more historical info about the school, but for now, again, what can I do to help neutralize the article and make sure the facts are correct? We opened as The Clayton School of Natural Healing in 1980, then opened American Holistic College of Nutrition in 1985. In 1997, the two schools merged to form Clayton College of Natural Health. CCNH Tara (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia likes verifiable information. Is the history that you describe documented anywhere (other than here)? --Orlady (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Controversy" section

message: First, it's not clear to me that the given reference even verifies this.  Is it "The Alabama Center for Postsecondary Education" instead?
Second, is this license important enough to mention?  Does it require some context?  It appears they are required to have this licensing to teach students from Alabama, but I'm not sure what it entails and what it means. --Ronz (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, at one time there was some context in this article if I remember correctly. The correct name of the very legitimate organization is the Alabama Department of Postsecondary Education, which can easily be confirmed with a simple Internet search. It reports to the state board of education. And yes, this license is important to mention. It means that we are licensed to operate in the state of Alabama. It is significant because it means the state is aware of us and approves of what we are doing. You can verify CCNH's status at this link: http://www.accs.cc/LicensedSchools.aspx?filter=C#grid
CCNH Tara (talk) 23:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Here's my own personal opinion/understanding. Alabama used to be one of the jurisdictions in the USA that was most friendly to non-wonderful academic institutions. In 2008 the state laws were changed to give responsibility for oversight to the Alabama department of education rather than consumer affairs. As a consequence, many of the non-wonderful academic institutions have been chased out of Alabama. See the Preston University article for more details. I assume that CCNH's Alabama license has come up for renewal. CCNH is still in Alabama which in my mind is a big plus for CCNH. So the license is important to mention, IMHO. TallMagic (talk) 17:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Ronz, if CCNH Tara's link  was also added to the article, then would that support the assertion that CCNH is properly licensed? Thank you, TallMagic (talk) 22:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I used that link instead.  Verifies the info and gives some context. --Ronz (talk) 22:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Alabama Department of Postsecondary Education

message: I don't really see what's the ruckus here... you guys seem to think certification and accreditation has something to do with each other. Clayton College was certified by the USDLA -- that's the keyword: 'certified'. Whether or not USDLA does accreditation is another topic and has nothing to do with Clayton's certification. 
That statement about USDLA doing (or for that matter, not doing) accreditation should be in the USDLA article, not here. Looking at the vast expanse of whitespace in the USDLA article it could really use that content. --112.203.97.53 (talk) 04:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing forbidding you from using it there as well. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certification != accreditation 

message: Just saw this article at the Huffington Post and although I have a definite conflict of interest when it comes to the matter, I thought this development could be examined further and if found credible added to the CCNM article... Huffington Post Article --Travis Thurston+ 08:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Its own website says It is with regret and a heavy heart that we inform you that Clayton College of Natural Health will be ceasing operations. -- Hoary (talk) 14:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And here is a Webcite backup of this page. -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clayton College Closing? 

message: I have full-protected this article due to edit-warring. Please use this page to discuss the changes you want to make to the article and why you consider them to be necessary or appropriate. 
Please note that content should comply with Wikipedia policy on verifiability, should not be promotional, and should be neutral in its point of view, and that Wikipedia guidelines on external links discourage external links in the body of articles. --Orlady (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to get a sense from  of the reasoning behind his/her edits. To my mind, they make the article sound less encyclopedic and more like a course brochure, and there are also issues (as pointed out by others) with inappropriate external links etc. I'll leave a note on that user's talk page to ask them to comment here. MastCell Talk 19:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit-warring 

message: Here's an article, http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2011/08/clayton_college_of_natural_hea.html , about a lawsuit filed by former students that allege Lloyd Clayton inappropriately took funds out of the school. I'm posting this here so that article editors can be aware of this developement. I think that it may be too early in the lawsuit to try to say much of anything in the article. I think it would be good if we keep an eye on developments in this area though. Zugman (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting lawsuit filed 

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