Talk:Tensor–vector–scalar gravity

message: As STVG and TeVeS are distinct, I've rebuilt the STVG article. However, it previously contained the same excised text as right here... Which is not an encyclopedia entry. 132.205.45.148 01:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TeVeS vs STVG

message: I think TeVeS is worth keeping (if it can be improved).  Before the Bekenstein paper, MOND was kind of a joke because it was nonrelativistic - TeVeS is the relativized version.  It's not taken quite as seriously as dark matter but it's still considered a contender.  The Bekenstein paper has 100 cites on SPIRES which means other people are taking it seriously enough to work and publish on it.  I'll take a first stab at cleaning up the Reference / See Also's.  HEL 13:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to assign yourself to the task, all the better. But an article cannot just be a quote from a paper. Try something better and remove the prod-label. See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#PRODed_TeVeS_and_SVT_gravity. --Pjacobi 13:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh, I just noticed the humongous quote, pasted verbatim from the abstract of the Bekestein article.  (Who thinks such a thing is useful?!)  I pared down the "see also" list at least.  I'll see what I can do about the rest, but I'm not an expert on this model. HEL 13:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, I changed my mind.  There's enough info about TeVeS in the MOND article, which is where it belongs anyway.  I'll vote for deletion. HEL 14:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See the edit I just made, removing the quote and paraphrasing the key point from it.  I think this is worthwhile to keep as a stub. -- SCZenz 06:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worth keeping 

message: Is this the same or different than Scalar-tensor-vector gravity? If the same, please merge the two articles. If its different, please explain the difference in article. Goldenrowley 16:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scalar-tensor-vector gravity

message: Just thought I'd put this on top because people keep proposing that this article be merged with STVG. TeVeS is NOT STVG. Yes, they are both gravity theories. Yes, they both involve a vector field. Other than that, they have nothing to do with each other: TeVeS is a covariant theory that is designed to replicate MOND in the weak field approximation, while STVG is a theory that grew out of Moffat's NGT. vttoth (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: TeVeS is not STVG!

message: I read some discussion of the GW170817 as disproving TeVeS since TeVeS had predicted gravity waves being slower than light, and hence disproved by the sGRB coincidence with the GW. - Rod57 (talk) 18:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does it predict the speed of gravitational waves ? 

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message: The parameter k has observable consequences and an experimentally constrained value, but it only appears inside an arbitrary function F. It seems like you could just rescale F on the "x axis" and change k proportionately without affecting any predictions. Presumably the article is missing something, like a requirement that a low-order derivative of F is equal to some fixed value. I will look into this but wanted to flag that the article currently seems inconsistent. Patallurgist (talk) 00:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion about k