Talk:Hugo Schmeisser

message: This work is a mess... Obviously the translation software was not intended for leisurely reading.  The hardest bit it determining appropriate tenses and fixing reverse word order. It's going to take a mammoth amount of sitting and fiddling. LincolnDouglas 05:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: In the article start the given date for Hugo Schmeisser's death is September 12 of 1953, but at the After WWII section the given date of his death is December 9 of 1953. Each one of this is the correct date? -- Get_It 18:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The de:Hugo Schmeisser (German Wikipedia) article consistently gives the September date: ,,Hugo Schmeisser starb am 12. September 1953." I've updated this article appropriately. Kiore (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death date 

message: Quote:
By August 1945, the Red Army had created 50 StG44s from existing assembly parts, and had begun inspecting their design.
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Now that makes no sense at all, god. Not that they captured great majority of the 500 000 manufactured, they actually had to CREATE 50 of them? Something just doesnt add-up, either its total BS, or somebody is mistaken about the whole weapon, perhaps it was Stg45? But of those im not sure that parts were ever made to assemble that many weapons (more like for 10), anyways some facts checking and rewriting needed here!
::: It does make some sense in the historic context. Thuringia saw the US troops conquering, as being west of the river Elbe where the American and Soviet troops were to rendezvous. These areas, however, were earmarked for withdrawal and exchange for the 3 western sectors of Berlin which had been conquered by the Soviets, who withdrew on 1st July 1945. So, the Americans and British conquered, then checked over all war production and interrogated Schmeisser. They might have made sure or tried to, to destroy all weapons production that endangered them. When the Soviets then came in they looked at what they found and put weapons together, probably not knowing if all parts were there. At some stage, the 'dismantling program' also kicked in. It was to reduce German industrial capacity significantly. They did go around the factories, dismantled equipment and took it away. My parents were in Saxony at the time which came under the same statutes as Thuringia. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:98EF:28AC:8EA6:7913 (talk) 04:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Max Popenker (surely you know who he is) said me once that according to his information, in Izhevsk Schmeisser was mostly dealing with production cycle establishment, not AK construction. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 10:13, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Army? 

message: If Hugo Schmeisser worked in Russia from 1946 ,then he can have had little to do with the DESIGN of the AK47 because that was pretty well established by then and significantly different to the MP44/Stg44 . Collector Grade Publications " Kalashnikov , The Arms And The Man " suggests that Schmeissers' work was with sheet metal production techniques as used with the later AKM .(SM527RR (talk) 04:10, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  AK47 ? 

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message: I removed the claim that Schmeisser himself worked on the Ak47 because the sources are very weak. Gordon L. Rottman s book The AK-47: Kalashnikov-series assault rifles is known to be full of mistakes like the claim that the MP44 is an improved version of the MP43 instead they are the exact same weapon with different designations. This book is commonly known to be bad.
For the other sources. They are not about the Ak-47 they talk it additionally. In contrast the big books about Ak47 and Stg.44 did not mention such a think. If you study Schmeissers history you will now, that he was employed on sheet metal production, were he did not cooperate very well than fell sick and get back to Germany.
But there is no point in proving a negative claim, this is not how history is working at all. --Daniel Helmut (talk) 22:51, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous Claim removed 

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