Talk:Maria Christina of the Two Sicilies

message: Maria Christina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies → Maria Christina of the Two Sicilies – This page has been moved and has had numerous redirects made (double up to quadruple) that I am trying to fix. I cannot figure out what the original name was, however, the proposed name is correct as it derives from a state existing pre-Italian unification, with the Spanish queen being born before the Two Sicilies was absorbed. — Talk:Maria Christina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies — Charles 22:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But Maria-Christina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies is acceptable to you or...? None of those articles list any other title or style other than Queen of Spain. Charles 18:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I try to keep my vote focused on one poll at a time.  ;)  To expand though: I don't really like the current name either.  If it were up to me, I'd say to move the article to  either "Maria Christina I of Spain", or "Maria Christina of Bourbon", as those seem to be in line with the most common usage in my own encyclopedias.  But between the choices of the current name and "of the Two Sicilies", I'd say stick with the current name. --Elonka 19:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't make anyone change their mind, but I have to note that "Bourbon-Two Sicilies" is a retroactive application in this case. It certainly was never used by MC. Just before her marriage, she was a princess of the Two Sicilies. The problem with just using "Bourbon" is that it sets a precedent as a shortcut in naming, which would lead to tons of disambig pages when it comes to all of the Marias, etc. Charles 19:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: "Maria Christina I of Spain" makes her a Queen regnant and she never was one. "Maria Cristina of Naples" is a curiosity at best. Her paternal grandfather Ferdinand I of the Two Sicilies lost the throne of Naples in 1806 and only ruled in Sicily until 1815. He reconquered Naples in 1815 by deposing and (later in the year) executing his rival Joachim Murat, The Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily entered a personal union and were formaly merged to the Kingdom of Two Sicilies in 1816. When Maria Christina was ten-years-old that is. She would not marry until 1829. In other words she was a Princess of Sicily for 9 years, Princes of Naples and Sicily for 1 year and Princess of Two Sicilies for 13 years. User:Dimadick
*Support Noel S McFerran 17:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

text: After having asked to reconsider my judgement of yesterday evening, I have reread everything and come to the conclusion that moving is better and that there is sufficient support for that. So, I have moved it accordingly. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 11:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: *Support As nominator. Charles 22:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But Maria-Christina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies is acceptable to you or...? None of those articles list any other title or style other than Queen of Spain. Charles 18:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I try to keep my vote focused on one poll at a time.  ;)  To expand though: I don't really like the current name either.  If it were up to me, I'd say to move the article to  either "Maria Christina I of Spain", or "Maria Christina of Bourbon", as those seem to be in line with the most common usage in my own encyclopedias.  But between the choices of the current name and "of the Two Sicilies", I'd say stick with the current name. --Elonka 19:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't make anyone change their mind, but I have to note that "Bourbon-Two Sicilies" is a retroactive application in this case. It certainly was never used by MC. Just before her marriage, she was a princess of the Two Sicilies. The problem with just using "Bourbon" is that it sets a precedent as a shortcut in naming, which would lead to tons of disambig pages when it comes to all of the Marias, etc. Charles 19:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: "Maria Christina I of Spain" makes her a Queen regnant and she never was one. "Maria Cristina of Naples" is a curiosity at best. Her paternal grandfather Ferdinand I of the Two Sicilies lost the throne of Naples in 1806 and only ruled in Sicily until 1815. He reconquered Naples in 1815 by deposing and (later in the year) executing his rival Joachim Murat, The Kingdom of Naples and the Kingdom of Sicily entered a personal union and were formaly merged to the Kingdom of Two Sicilies in 1816. When Maria Christina was ten-years-old that is. She would not marry until 1829. In other words she was a Princess of Sicily for 9 years, Princes of Naples and Sicily for 1 year and Princess of Two Sicilies for 13 years. User:Dimadick
*Support Noel S McFerran 17:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The designation of Bourbon-"Territory" was informally used after present-day Italy was united. The Spanish queen in question never used of Bourbon-Two Sicilies as she had become a queen-consort while of the Two Sicilies was still in use. Charles 22:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: There does not seem to be consensus for the propoer name at the moment, please try to work it out first and then make a new request. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 02:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After having asked to reconsider my judgement of yesterday evening, I have reread everything and come to the conclusion that moving is better and that there is sufficient support for that. So, I have moved it accordingly. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 11:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved

message: The remarriage section states that she had a stillborn child who lived from 1847 to 1863. Something needs to be fixed, but I'm not sure what.PurpleChez (talk) 16:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  children 

message: It says that she had already given birth to a child before marriage to Ferdinand. The child is not listed, nor who the father was. Is this in error? EmilySarah99 (talk) 04:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Child