Talk:Charge at Krojanty

message: I find the article a bit contradictory. How can it be claimed to have resulted in a Polish victory when it is clearly stated that the Polish forces retreared after coming under artilery fire. The Polish contigent may have been able to slow down a German unit for some time but they did not stop or capture the unit, nor did they prevent it from fighting on as part of the September Campaign. Victory during a battle generally means the opposing army was captured, defeated, or at least took heavy losses or sustained major damage - none of which is confirmed by the article. --Nikostar 01:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like 'inconclusive' would be a better choice. Halibutt?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: If the figure of 600 of the ~800 Germans KIA or WIA is correct, then I would define that as heavy losses, especially compared to the 60 Poles KIA/WIA. --x-Flare-x{Talk) 09:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: According to the infobox the Polish casualties were 20 killed and 40 wounded and that doesn't sound very high to me compared to the alleged 600 killed or wounded Germans. --x-Flare-x{Talk) 09:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: User Jinxs changed the German casualties in the table from "unknown" to "unknown, but heavy". What I miss is a source for the statemant that they were "heavy". If there is no source (and so far I never saw any) this has to be changed in the table. --Memnon335bc 15:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If they Poles accomplished their strategic goal, and the Germans won the battle, isn't that a "German Victory/Polish Strategic victory", I fail to see indecisiveness in the battle results.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.112.19.122 (talk) 08:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Result: Victory?? 

message: There are several mistakes in the article. For example the Germans did not move towards Gdansk.  The Poles did not receive machine gun fire after the attack, but during the attack. The German unit (by the way III. Bat. of Infantry-Rgt. 76 (mech.) was also not resting in the woods.  Also there were no APC's around, because in 1939 there were only few of them and those were attached to the tank divisions (mostly 3rd Armoured Division). There were actually Armoured Reconnaissance vehicles. Gen. Guderian mentioned Polish Cavalry in his memoires, but it was the 2nd Motorizid Division to the south, which considered a tactical retreat, not the 20th motorized Div. The Polish troops did not retreat to south, but to the North-East. There has never been an Chojnice Operational Group as it is said in the article (far down). 
In case someone wants to learn more about this, just let me know. --Memnon335bc 10:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means, feel free to edit this article and correct the mistakes.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As to O.W. Chojnice, it could be roughly translated as either Separated Unit Chojnice, Independent Unit Chojnice or any similar name. Operational Group, however, is not the best term here indeed. //Halibutt 13:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistakes

message: * German movie Kampfgeschwader Lützow (1941, imdb) is said to show a re-enacted scene. This Youtube clip shows at around 1:40 how cavalry attacks after hiding behind a hill, and at 2:00 the German armoured recon vehicles arrive, firing with machine guns.-- Matthead  Discuß   00:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This should certainly be added to the article. Interesting how such a minor skirmish has nonetheless attracted attention, isn't it? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  11:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The editwarring of folks who can not contribute anything other than automatic "rv" surely can not be called minor anymore. No >3RR today, sorry. The skirmish itself was, is, and remains minor, in WW2 standards, and even in the standards of the very same day. Only reports published much later blew it up to a "myth". The article needs to trace the propaganda stories better. Also, coverage of the military aspect is needed, with "20.Inf.Div.(mot.) reaches the area northwest Czerkiew and Konitz. Fights with polish 18.Ulan-Rgt. at Krojanty with heavy losses for the enemy. Secured Nowa-Czerkiew and Konitz later on." and . Hey, thats what everybody was looking for. German propaganda machine has been so effective that it still sends aftershocks throughout the Internet more than sixty years after the events. Also, tall tales like "decided to take the enemy by surprise", for example, should be reworded as "overeager commander neglects recon and sends his men into disaster". -- Matthead  DisOuß   20:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies 

message: This article should be moved to Battle of Krojanty. Loosmark (talk) 08:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  how about a move 

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message: This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: It mentions that the Polish had TKS/TK-3 tankettes, but the page for the TKS says that only one prototype for the TK-3 was ever made 192.197.54.29 (talk) 19:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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