Talk:History of the Jews in Turkey

message: so interesting article Nevertelles a comment You said "Sultan Bayezid II sent Kemal Reis to save the Sephardic Jews of Spain from the Spanish Inquisition in 1492 and granted them permission to settle in the Ottoman Empire." Well the text is writen as if the Spanish Inquisition were killing jews As you know that was not true The King of spains give orders not to kill jews if not to send it away if they are not convert to cristianity In order to clarify please check yorur text Ferdinant Of Aragon was not a Hitler an the Spanis Inquisition in spite of Anglos propaganda tales fortunatly were not for us the German SS The conflict was mantaining in term an level of religion not of racism ( as did the King of Portugal)
And finaly thank for your article. Best regards   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.145.212.253 (talk) 19:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
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message: The vast majority of the European Jews (mainly Ashkenazi) who fled to Turkey from persecution and Nazi extermination later migrated to the newly founded State of Israel. The majority of the long established Turkish Jewish community (almost all Sephardic) also migrated to Israel since its establishment in 1948, especially in the 1950's and 1960's mainly due to economic reasons, rather than persecution or idealism. It is estimated that there are 120,000 Sephardic Jews of Turkish descent living in Israel. Despite the economic hardships in the past, the Turkish Jews are the wealthiest community in Turkey today.
A historical article which is Npov and not dedicated to smearing Ottomans and Turks at last... you cant imagine how rare it is in wikipedia.
: I just wish it is all true but I can't help but feel a little deceived as there is no mention of events of September 6-7 1956. Indeed there were and are ethnic tensions in turkey which reflect on the jews too. But then of course it might be fair to say that they are the best treated group among ethnic minorities in Turkey.
There is a page in the Hebrew wikipedia on Daniel de Fonseca.   דניאל דה פונסקה
--YoavD 10:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Jews of Turkey later migrated to Israel 

message: This article contains some strange factual errors - for instance, the Ottoman Parliament did not meet between 1877 and 1908 - although there were Jewish representatives in both the first period and the later.
Also, the Ottomans were not involved in a war in 1885 - after the Congress of Berlin, the next war was with Greece in 1897, and then Italy in 1911.
There are also some serious issues with references - for instance, 500,000 seems way too large a number for the Jewish population, and in any case there is no source given for this number. Jpiccone (talk) 18:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of Factual Errors and Lack of References 

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message: Are you KIDDING???!!!! jews is really Jews and, well, just look at sentence 2, paragraph 1. No person with any mind could have typed THAT.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.57.142 (talk) 23:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIdiculous opening paragraph! Lunatic typed it! 

message: :Wikipedia ought to be ashamed of itself for allowing such outright lies,propaganda, and half-truths. Far from being the safe haven for Jewish refugees during World War II, Turkey in fact refused to allow Jewish refugees to disembark on its territory when fleeing from Nazi-occupied Europe. To claim otherwise is to deny the sordid sequence of events that led to the Struma disaster. Even the sole survior of that disaster, who narrowly escaped drowning, was thrown in a Turkish prison.
:In 1941 when that event occurred, Britain had a strict quota policy of limiting the number of Jewish refugees to enter Mandate Palestine (destined to effectively cut altogether by 1944). In consort with Britain, Turkey allowed Jewish refugees within that quota the right of passage to Mandate Palestine. However, Britain would not allow ships carrying surplus refugees to continue on their journey, and Turkey would not allow those stranded Jews, and Jewish refugees from Europe in general, to settle or even disembark in Turkey.
:Claims or implications that Turkey altruistically opened its doors to the Jewish 'huddled masses' of Europe is a callous and gross revision of history.
:Jacob Davidson  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.68.95.65 (talk) 02:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propagandistic POV article omitted the Struma disaster 

message: My book "Dissent and Heterodoxy" which is reference for the Jews in Yemen in footnote 24 here, deals with the Babis and Baha'is in the Ottoman Empire and Turkey and doesn't have any reference to the Jews in the OE or Turkey except that I mention Jewish messianic currents in Yemen in the 19th century. The same is true for footnote 21 of the Wiki article "History of the Jews in the Ottoman Empire".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Necademic (talk • contribs) 13:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alkan's book in footnote 24 

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message: Regarding Turkish-born Jews in Israel, the article says that "they maintain their Turkish culture."
It would be good to list what elements of Turkish culture Turkish-born Jews in Israel have maintained and whether their descendants maintain them too.S. Valkemirer (talk) 18:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkish-born Jews in Israel "maintain their Turkish culture." 

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Several of the titling criteria were raised in this discussion. The factor that most swung me towards finding "not moved" rather than "no consensus" was the WP:COMMONNAME argument, as Ngrams were provided that make a strong case for the current title being the COMMONNAME. Most other lines of argument, by either side of the discussion, were more contested. The nomination argued that the current phrasing was "bizarre", an implicit WP:NATURAL argument, but other participants argued that the existing title felt more natural than the proposed one. It was also noted that the proposed title would be more WP:CONCISE, but opponents of the move argued that the difference in title length would be fairly trivial. Opponents of the move also raised WP:CONSISTENT, noting the pattern of other "History of the Jews in Foo" articles, but supporters expressed a desire to change that convention more broadly, so the consistency argument did not hold much weight in my evaluation.Ultimately, the argument that seems to have been most decisive is WP:COMMONNAME, as it was backed by clear evidence and was not disputed by other participants. This tipped the balance of arguments and led me to find a rough consensus in favor of the current title. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: History of the Jews in Turkey →  – Bizarre phrasing, make it concise. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:23, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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