Talk:The Leading Hotels of the World

message: That's funny? Because the first time I tagged this article with a CSD it was created by User talk:Donna000. There was no debate I was allowed to participate in? Hopefully there will be this time unless it is deleted as a speedy. Sting_au  Talk 05:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening comment 

message: I have removed the list of hotels at the bottom. Most were redlinks, and those that were not did not always lead to the hotel in question, but often to a different one with the same name(there are only so many beachy sounding names I guess). I don't know if this has made the organization notable, but it is a start at making this a better article either way. --Djohns21 (talk) 23:32, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a paragraph on what LHW does as a consortium as opposed to a hotel chain, sourced from a reference identified during the 2nd AFD nomination that appears likely to close as Keep. In addition, the following source has been identified, but for me is behind a paywall: Maresco and Lyons, "Achieving growth in the luxury market: the Leading Hotels of the World (LHW) leveraged brand extension, joint venture partnerships, and strategic alliances" in Strategic Finance, May 1 2005. Finally, another participant in the debate identified a dispute over a web domain in which this company has been involved, located at . In my opinion, this is not notable enough to be mentioned, but putting the link here for future reference. Martinp (talk) 16:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major delete 

message: After closing the discussion at AFD 2 as keep, the closer added a diversified portfolio of cleanup tags, specifically "copyedit", "disputed", "refimprove", and "context". Another user has since removed "context" as unnecessary; I am similarly removing the first three. I have reread the article and see no further need for copyediting; this article is no better or worse than the typical wikiarticle in that regard. There was a dispute during the AFD about whether LHW should be called a hotel chain, or marketing organization, or whatnot; I believe this is resolved by calling it a consortium as per the 3rd party independent references. The referencing is much improved and verifies as far as I can tell every material fact in the article. I have kept the marketing stub and "in need of attention from an expert" tags, which I feel are accurate. Expert or thoughtful nonexpert assistance is welcome! Martinp (talk) 13:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tag removal after AFD 2 

message: This article has a brief intro followed by a list of 430 hotels. It feels very un-Wikipedian. On reading the article I really felt like I didn't need all of the hotels listed, as I could easily have followed the link to the organisation's website where that information would have been available.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by HallucigeniaUK (talk • contribs) 23:08, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is a good point. A list this long is effectively unmaintainable on a page like this which is edited only very rarely. The article has looked to me like little more than an advertisement since its creation, and removing the list would help it be more encyclopedic. --David Edgar (talk) 00:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  List really necessary? 

message: The company in question is not notable for this. The topic page is about the hotels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jadeslair (talk • contribs) 15:26, 12 September 2016   (UTC)
:Done.  no independent source to show noteworthiness and WP:NOTWEBHOST Jytdog (talk) 17:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose Delete Section called "In popular culture" Suggestion 

message: "The company was established in 1928 by a group of European hoteliers. With 38 initial members, among them ... the Mena House in Cairo ... and King David Hotel in Jerusalem... By the end of the 1960s, HRI had grown to represent 70 hotels – all of which were in Europe."
Cairo and Jerusalem are not in Europe.
If there were non-European hotels in 1928 but no longer any by the end of the 1960s, this should be explicitly stated and the article should say why there were no longer any (did they all decide to leave, or did the organization decide to kick them out?).
If there were no non-European hotels from 1928 to the end of the 1960s, then the sentence giving two examples of non-European members in 1928 should be corrected.
If there were non-European hotels at the end of the 1960s, then the sentence saying that all the hotels at the end of the 1960s were in Europe should be corrected.
47.139.43.87 (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent contradiction in the History section -- clarification needed