Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)/Archive 4

message: For previous discussions, see /Archive 3.  Cheers. --DavidHOzAu 12:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk page has been archived 

message: diff. --DavidHOzAu 06:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This site was one of the better ones, and contained ALOT of info, in addition it was also used as a reference it most of the character and games article. I'd hate to sound stupid... but, what actually is domain parking? UnDeRsCoRe 23:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some company waits for a domain name to lapse and then they grab it before the original owner can.  The original owner can't get it back without paying a higher-than-usual price. For more information on this practice, see cybersquatting. Ouch. --DavidHOzAu 12:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OOO. That's bad. So, what company took Concept Mobius' domain? UnDeRsCoRe 21:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website gone AWOL; victim of domain parking. References removed. 

message: Is there anyone concerned about the length of this article...at all?GrandMasterGalvatron 14:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's fine to me. I believe you're referencing to the Knuckles article, which is being critisized, for being soooo long. (I was being saracastic). Please don't bring that up in this article, it'll cause a lot of mayhem. Believe me. UnDeRsCoRe 23:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if anything, it's a bit short.  Very little mention of the homing attack, and no images of any attack at all. (We used to have a list of attacks, but it couldn't be converted to prose and was dropped so that that this could become a good article.)  One of these days I'll get around to making a diagram of it using Inkscape. (For example, a certain picture of personal computer was made using Inkscape.  Powerful stuff; worth the download.)--DavidHOzAu 12:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article length 

message: I was skimming through the page when I found the Character section has been modified to have the word cake here and there. o.o"
Ericius 16:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, congratulations Sherlock you discovered who the cake vandal is. (lol, just joking, you did a good job). If he really is the vandal, report him. But I guess he'll only get off on a warning... UnDeRsCoRe 01:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, I am NOT the cake vandal. I never put a single "cake" mention on this or any other article once! I would never vandalize an article. Besides, my IP address is 68.114.127.87, while the real vandal's is 82.198.250.73. --Nintendo Maximus 02:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... Okay, that's all the proof I need.  The cake vandal's IP doesn't match Nintendo Maximus's IP, so it's not him... and, like most vandals, he isn't logged in, in order to remain "anonymous".  Yeah right, blocking an IP address would keep someone off a lot more accurately than blocking an account.  --Luigifan 21:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cake" vandalisation 

message: Does anyone have any information about the Christmas special animation featuring Sonic?  I can't find any mention of it on Wiki and was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gromreaper (talk • contribs) 
:Christmas Special? I haven't even heard anything about that. Where did you hear about it in the first place? UnDeRsCoRe 14:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I watched it when I was about 10 or 12, plus I recently saw it on DVD with some other lame Christmas episodes of some other shows, so I know it exists.  Gromreaper 15:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Christmas_Blast --HellCat86 16:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, HellCat!  Gromreaper 03:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas Special? 

message: User talk:71.213.211.85 is bent on the fact that Sonic was 15 in SA and then 16 in SA2 and ages every year. So, he thinks Sonic is 21 years old and that I'm wrong. I'm having trouble convincing him the truth and stop him from list Sonic as 21, but so far I've had no luck. Can someone please help me? UnDeRsCoRe 15:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Random aside- since technically we've been told Sonic has been the same age in every game (15), that's one hell of a busy year...--HellCat86 15:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: That's because in old school Sonic games he was 16, but now he's 15. UnDeRsCoRe 00:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic isn't 15? 

message: In the games, Sonic does not actually go faster than sound. He does travel faster than sound in the Archie comics and in Sonic X (and possibly in the SatAM series but i havent seen it.) The writers of these series probably thought the name "Sonic" implied higher then mach 1 speeds and it is one of the most common misconceptions about Sonic, the next most common is that he lives on Mobius etc. It says in the article that he does travel faster than sound, however that comment was probably written by someone who watches Sonic X because the following sentence is "He can run backwards just as well as forwards" (what sonic does to tease the racecar drivers in the first episode.) I didn't delete the line about Sonic's mach 1 speed because most fans will just put it back again. Also it might deserve a mention for Sonic X. If nobody objects i will either delete or modify that line. ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 06:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Sonic runs backwards when he's reading the note from Eggman at the start of Sonic Heroes.--HellCat86 10:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with HellCat86.  As for Mobius, the present understanding is that Earth and Mobius are two different names that refer to the same thing—saying that Sonic lives on Earth is just as correct as saying that Sonic lives on Mobius, and the article reflects that the last time I checked. --DavidHOzAu 10:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, I believe that Sonic's slowed down when you're actually playing the game, but that's for a good reason; if Sonic was traveling at supersonic speeds, it would be impossible to control him!!!!  --Luigifan 22:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Well from a strictly scientific point of view, chaos control means that Sonic travels very very fast from an external frame of reference. (or is that the other way around?) --DavidHOzAu, making heads hurt worldwide, one head at a time. 12:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I meant he dosent travel faster in a 'normal' situation. (T_T) ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 11:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True. --DavidHOzAu 08:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: He is, it's been officially confirmed. And if it dosen't seem like it in the games, that's because it's in a game. If he was going at ACTUAL speed of sound, whoa, It would be hard to control him. So, don't take everything so literal. UnDeRsCoRe 00:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic does not go faster than sound 

message: There have been several back-and-forth edits regarding Sonic's birthplace.  This issue needs to be clarified, and fast.  Fast like Sonic himself!  --Luigifan 12:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, I knew it!  --Luigifan 01:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit war

message: Is he or isn't he? anyone got proof? Roxyr
Miyamoto-san wants Sonic to be in SMBB,but of right now,Sonic being in the game is unconfirmed. Who knows? Maybe he'll be revealed during the Nintendo World Tour. BlackEDGE MkII 01:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Smash Bros. Brawl

message: Sounds familiar, can't place where I've read it before, although something about it screams copyvio and hoax to me. Anyone else got any thoughts on it?  I've half a mind to litter it with , comment it out, or just plain remove it. --DavidHOzAu 06:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in the pamphlet that came with the 10th Anniversary gift package...I'll scan it if I can find itGrandMasterGalvatron 02:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The strange "Mary Garnet" story can be found here. If you can think of a good way of incorporating it into the article, good luck - outlining all the various spin-offs and continuities in a clear way is some challenge as it is, even without including one with next to no connection to anything else! --Nick RTalk 12:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic named after an airplane pilot? 

message: NOTE:THIS SECTION CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SONIC 2006! DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS!
(I don't have a 360 or PS3, so I just HAD to know the storyline, so I spoiled everything for myself;that's the reason I know all this.)
I think we should mention the fact that Sonic died in the game(and not just under the 'relationships' section). This is big, folks!
We can't just ignore it.Superbub 20:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major plot point from Sonic 2006 

message: I don't know you guys, but I think that we should put the positive reactions to Griffith's voice in the article. The section is mostly of negative reviews, but many fans (including myself) like Griffith's performance. Should we put the positive opinion? Leader Vladimir
If there's more than one fan, than sure.--Superbub 20:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: More generally, I think that the "Voice acting" section should be moved lower down the article. Should that subject, of interest only to fans, really be more prominent in the article than a description of Sonic's speed, which is by far the most defining aspect of the character? --Nick RTalk 17:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality in Voice Section

message: Does anybody know what's up with the shared-sclera thing? (one big eye-white with two pupils in it) I mean.. that always struck me as one of sonic's most distinctive features. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.63.142 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance 

message: As I mentioned above, I think the voice acting section is too prominent in the article, and I feel the same about certain other sections. I'm proposing a rearrangement of the article.
Sonic's most notable trait is his ability to run fast. It's the core concept that almost all the games in the series have been based around, and the one feature that's common to him in all comics and animations. There are many people who have enjoyed the games purely for their sense of speed and couldn't care less about his personality, his "love life" or the "controversy" over voice actors - I reckon they're only of interest to people who are already fans, and not general readers of Wikipedia. So, I'm going to rearrange the article as follows:
#History
#Appearances
#Abilities (perhaps it should even be placed above "Appearances"?)
#Character
#Relationships
#Voice acting (renamed "Voice actors")
--Nick RTalk 18:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The character, relationships and alternate versions sections really, really need to be trimmed down in favour of descriptions more appropriate to a Wikipedia article. --Nick RTalk 18:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rearranging sections 

message: User:Skillerkiller keeps adding nonsense about a fan made brother character, no matter how many times the rest of us remove it. Can he/she be blocked or something?--HellCat86 18:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because he has not been even warned once. I added a welcome message and a 3RR warning. If he does it once more, he may be blocked for disruption, as the information is clearly put as advertisement and does not fit the article. If he adds it twice more, he will be blocked for 24 hours due 3RR. If he does again, though, I suggest you to take your time and explain why the information does not fit the article. Blocks are only last measures, and generally not applied if the user has not been warned. -- ReyBrujo 18:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fan made brother nonsense

message: Why is the article semi-protected but you can still edit the page with a unregisterd or newly registerd account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackypwill (talk • contribs).
:The article is not protected, at least not right now. -- ReyBrujo 04:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Protected? 

message: Sonic can definitely use Chaos Control with the real Chaos Emeralds. In Sonic Adventure 2, the Emerald he uses is fake, but Tails said: "It has the same wavelengths and properties, but it's less powerful than the real one.", meaning it's just like a regular Chaos Emerald, except with less power. Logically that would mean if he can use Chaos Control with a Chaos Emerald with less power, he can use Chaos Control with an Emerald with full power. He even uses it with a real Chaos Emerald a couple of times in Sonic 2006.  
:OK, I've replaced the specific mention of the fake Emerald with a more general statement. Anything that helps the article get a little less bloated... :) --Nick RTalk 18:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic's Chaos Control 

message: Someone vandalized the opening of this article, calling Sonic an "ugly blue hedgehog who is fat and in Super Smash Bros. Brawl."
:yes it should be protected —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.47.116.77 (talk • contribs).
that's horrible,and a flatout lie,but he is a blue hedgehog
TELL ME WHO PUT THE CRAP NOW Sonicrules2 01:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh? 

message: In accordance with having the in universe template use the data at Sonic Channel, I've snipped these things from the section.
|birthday=June 23 
|born=Christmas Island
Find a way to work those into the article :)
As birthday is generally the release of the first game, it was removed from the template.   There are no in universe birthday fields at Sonic Channel. GrandMasterGalvatron 16:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile tweak 

message: This Lenny Kravitz song definitely fits Sonic.  From the electric guitar to references to battling a "lord of the wasteland who don't want us to be free, but he can't stop our hero and his supersonic speed..."  hang on, I just explained the whole thing.  Okay, if you've heard the song, then do you think I'm valid, or do you think I'm crazy?  I sure would like to know!  --Luigifan 03:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like original research to me... Youkai no unmei 16:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Soul Fighter

message: The fancruft ends here.  The name of the comic is Sonic the Hedgehog.  I've gone and removed all occurrences of "The Archie comics" from the article as well as terms like "SatAM" and other crap.  This is an informal article, not your average third rate fansite.  Nothing short of the proper names for these things is acceptable.  I better not have to do this for this article again >>.GrandMasterGalvatron 08:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Archie Comics" 

message: His official name has "The" capitalized.  If you need a source, check out Steven Kent's The Ultimate History of Video Games or The First Quarter.  Its the same book with two names.  Its in their.  Trust me. -doodlebomb@gmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.10.1.61 (talk) 03:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't really matter if you spell it with a capital, so you might as well leave it as it is. Roxyr 16:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic The Hedgehog 

message: If you've lost track of the article over the last through months, here's what happened:
* diff : Transformation section removed
* diff : Sections rearranged
* diff : Other small changes in the text
--DavidHOzAu 06:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note for article veterans 

message: ~What freak wrote about Sega getting brought out by Spongebob! And those anyone know what is more populer anyway (Probley Sonic).Themasterofwiki 21:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic And Spongebob 

message: It's high time for a new image, doncha think? If anyone knows where to get the one picture of sonic from the front cover of the latest nintendo power, that would be great:) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Superbub (talk • contribs) 02:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

message: Whoever keeps adding stand-alone lists to the article, please stop.   I invite you to read Wikipedia:Embedded list.  The article would fail a Good Article Review with them left in. --DavidHOzAu 23:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists 

message: personally i say that sonic pwns mario's fat a** from here to mobius to the mushroom kingdom. seriously, mario just can't match sonic's mach speed with his jumps or fire or anything. and sonic's way cooler, too. not to mention im just a more of a fan of the blue guy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.218.92.64 (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario vs Sonic 

message: Once again, Chao9999 has edited this section per their own personal interpretation of canon. For starters, we KNOW Gerald studied Echidna culture. SA2 makes this clear. Chao9999 however refuses to see it as such and therefore it obviously must be wrong. For Knuckles, I've said before I am near certain this is clarified in the Japanese manual for Sonic 3 or S&K.
I'm sorry, but I'm sick of Chao9999's attitude to this and other Sonic related Wiki articles. Should something conflict with his/her interpretation of the story, it's apparently wrong wrong wrong and no discussion from those who know better is allowed.--HellCat86 01:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then undo their edits in the page history.  Let them know you are serious about keeping the article accurate. --DavidHOzAu 11:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do, undoing the edits is the very first thing I did. I know Wiki asks users to ignore 'personal' attacks, but Chao9999 just seems to have his/her own agenda.--HellCat86 11:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Destiny info

message: I think we should start a Wikiproject Sonic The Hedgehog I think it desurves one since Mario has one.Themasterofwiki 19:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Wikitendo should probably be made into an task force of WP:CVG like WP:SEGA has been.  My advice is to bring it up at WT:CVG.  However, a word of warning: the outcome may not be one that you like. —DavidHOzAu 02:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Project Sonic The Hedgehog 

message: I heard on a article that Eggman and Eggmannaga are inlove —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonicrules (talk • contribs) 01:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I know something you don't know 

message: Um i found this, should it be mentioned in the other media bit. http://www.atascocitatexas.com/images/area_photos/fastfood2.jpg—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.33.13.30 (talk • contribs).
Actually, that'd be "Cameos and popularity".  However, I think that fast food chain having a similar logo to Sonic's old-school games is just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Sonic at all.  In my opinion, don't bother adding it. —DavidHOzAu 01:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: In other media

message: Well I been thinking about this for a while.  And seriously, I wanted to make sure if this was right.  But I had a curious thought or idea that could be talked about.  What would people think if the chaos emeralds colors correspond to the specific characters.
Blue emerald would equal sonic
Red would be knuckles
Yellow as tails
black being shadow
white compared to silver
Purple linked with blaze
and green comfirmed with jet
Jet the hawk isn't even considered one of the picked out ones to be a choice but this is just speculation on an idea.  Plus I saw that there was a light blue one and not a green one, or maybe it was a mixed up thought on imagination.  Anywho, could sonic have been one of the pre picked out ones that match the color of the chaos emerald?
And again, this is just plain off the top of my head here so nothing big to expect of this being true and gossip away if you wish. Mialover730 08:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaos Emerald collor comparison