Talk:Whale vocalization

message: Any way we can get these sounds in mp3 format?
:The "freeness" of MP3 is a murky issue at best, so Wikipedians decided to go with OGG which, whilst obscure, is definitely free in every sense. Pcb21| Pete 16:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ogg format is obscure 

message: I made a new spectrogram for this page. I didn' bother trying to keep the wave form (which isn't very informative anyway). Zeimusu | (Talk page) 11:07, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New spectrogram

message: It is not necessary to make strong statements like whales "...are much more dependent on sound for communication and sensation than land mammals are" in order to stress that sound is important. It is hard to make comparisons like this and almost impossible to prove it scientifically. It should be enough only to point at echolocating mammals as bats for example. They can hardly survive without their "song". --- Arnejohs 11:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To Arnejohs: it can be proved scientifically. You only must compare the efectiveness of all senses in sea than in land, then you could appreciatte the difference, independent of the animal who gots that sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.53.145.210 (talk) 17:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too strong statement 

message: I recall that an issue of National Geographic back in the 1970s included a record containing whale songs. In one part, they speeded up the songs until the low-pitched calls sounded very much like bird songs. I don't what (if any) inferences were drawn, but I found it interesting. On the other hand, if you play it backward, it might say "Paul is dead." --NameThatWorks (talk) 00:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songs 

message: While I support a citation and even a quote for the claim that whale song is described as similar to or compared with human singing the removal of the claim on the grounds that it cannot be proved misunderstands the claim.
Without the above claim, there is another issue. The article currently does not ask or answer the question: Why is "whale song" called "song"? Hyacinth (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, for the same reason birdsong is called song?  It sounds like singing.  That and, well, imagine how creepy it'd be if we called it "whale howling."  They'd never sell a New Age record of that.  Nagakura shin8 (talk) 01:35, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This talk page is for discussing improvements to the Whale song article. Hyacinth (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know.  And so I offered my (admittedly somewhat smartass) objections to you "improving" the article by adding completely obvious information.  Nagakura shin8 (talk) 08:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Human singing and whale "song"

message: In the "Human Interaction" section, is it said that "whale noises travel up to 3,000,000 km." I have tried to find the corresponding statistic from Cornell University to back this statment up. For a sound to travel three million kilometers, it means that it would have to travel around the world seventy-five times. If the statistic is indeed correct, then I suggest a sentence be added after it that mentions how many times around the world the sound would have to travel to reach 3,000,000 km. This would allow many people to more easily comprehend the huge magnitude of this distance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceMan1 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Distance

message: I am gradually getting more information to fill up the cracks in this article. Feel free to do this yourself, too. ceranthor 12:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working on this 

message: I found a serious mistake. In the section "Production of sound" # "Mysticete whale sound production", it says, "The process, however, cannot be completely analogous to humans, because whales do not have to exhale in order to produce sound." This implies that humans cannot produce sounds without exhaling, which is false. I just produced some sounds in my mouth without exhaling or inhaling (of course, I couldn't do it for long because humans can't hold their breath very long).--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 01:48, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exhale 

message: In section "Production of sound" # "Mysticete whale sound production", it says, "Baleen whales (formally called mysticetes)...." I think the "formally" shouldn't be there. "Baleen whale" is a perfectly okay term in formal contexts; in fact, at least one source that I have read says native, Germanic words (such as "baleen whale") are preferable to Latin or Greek borrowings. Plus, "baleen whale" is more transparent semantically. I suggest rewriting "Baleen whales (formally called mysticetes)" as "Baleen whales, or mysticetes,".
Also, the title "Mysticete whale sound production" is redundant. Shorten it to "Mysticete sound production".--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 02:04, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formally 

message: Substituted at 22:06, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Hi! I just bumped into this declassified secret services document which details tentative use by the US Navy of whale sounds to produce coded communications: http://www.governmentattic.org/22docs/NOSCrptProjCOMBO_1980.pdf  It takes place in the seventies, so I was wondering if there had been more attempts later on - in which case it might deserve a section in this article... --85.28.111.250 (talk) 10:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coded whale songs 

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message: Hello, isn't this paragraph: "The migration patterns of blue whales remains unclear. Some populations appear to be resident in habitats of year-round high productivity in some years, while others undertake long migrations to high-latitude feeding grounds, but the extent of migrations and the components of the populations that undertake them are poorly known." irrelevant? I might be wrong but it seems to have nothing to do with whale vocalization, and if it does, it isn't shown how. Any thought? Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 11:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irrelevant paragraph 

message: Started to redact the sentence that lumps dolphins and other cetaceans with sharks as "fish" but realized whole article not worth wading into. 98.4.112.204 (talk) 04:27, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crappy article 

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