Talk:Battle of Issus

message: Fixed the numbers to correspond to the information below, from modern sources. 
| 69,000
|-
| Persian Immortals
| 10,000 
|-
| Greek hoplites
| 10,000
|-
| Cavalry
| 11,000
|- style="background:lightgrey;"
| Total
| 100,000"
Persian total of ~100,000 men
Intranetusa (talk) 02:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixed Persian army count

message: The table on the right of the article indicates that the Persians fielded approx 100 thousand men and suffered 110 thousand casualties. Something isn't right... 
212.157.10.228 15:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Casualties

message: Alexander was in Gordius until summer of 333, and the battle should have been fought in October, not in May as written in the article.
:(Ruthven in italian Wikipedia) 217.77.80.3 16:44, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of the battle

message: I moved the page back to the original name. See  Wikipedia:WikiProject Battles no need for date in name unless as a disambiguation.
If you wish the page name to include the year and it is not for disambiguation, please discuss it under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Battles#Dates in battle page names
--Philip Baird Shearer 10:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates in battle page names

message: Isn't the preferred term for the Macedonian footsoldiers Hypaspists and not Hoplites?  For one thing, the equipment is quite different, what with a pike instead of a spear, a lighter shield and if I recall no greaves.  More importantly, Alexander's soldiers were professionals, not the citizen-soldier Hoplites of the Greeks.
Wilhelm Ritter 18:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terminology

message: to be consistent with other wikipedia articles this should be clarified. I think most likely the 'pass of jonah' is the Belen Pass / syrian gate and unless there is a concrete reference to the 'pass of jonah' it should be changed. If there is then the belen pass page may need to be modified. Quantum liam (talk) 21:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: reference to the pass of jonah

message: The article needs clean up.
The English is poor.
Especially the introduction seems like high school english (UTC)
I think it's a little challenging to read.  One statement has "contact with the beach to his sub-commander" which is more modifying prepositional phrases than I usually see for one noun. Wikivek (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up

message: * Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. 
* This article would benefit from: in-text citations. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008]] 

message: The article places too much emphasis on the army of Alexander being that of the "Hellenic League". This was the spin that both Philip and Alexander put on their Persian adventure. It was supposed to be a pan-Hellenic campaign of retribution for what the Persians had done to Greece under Xerxes - a campaign in which Macedon sided with the Persians, ironically. In truth the members of the league were lukewarm in supporting the invasion of Persia at best, and the proportion of the army which fought at Issus provided by the League members (other than Macedon)  was tiny, and was greatly exceeded by the numbers of Greek mercenaries that Alexander had hired. The army led by Alexander at Issus was in fact the national army of Macedon, supplimented by the Balkan tributaries of Macedon (Thessalians, Paeonains and Thracians), a large number of Greek mercenaries and a tiny number of Hellenic League troops. The text should be modified to reflect the reality of the situation. Urselius (talk) 10:37, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hellenic League? 

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message: I checked up on Welman and he never states 7000 dead for Alexander's army. His site is only accessible by wayback machine and neither states 7000.
:https://web.archive.org/web/20071016165147/http://pothos.org/content/index.php?page=major-battles
:https://web.archive.org/web/20030708052623/http://www.pothos.org/alexander.asp?ParaID=78
:https://web.archive.org/web/20030708053546/http://www.pothos.org/alexander.asp?ParaID=95
Not sure how good a source he is anyway. I had to use Livius org who I also dislike, but better than nothing
:http://www.livius.org/articles/battle/issus/issus-3/
"Curtius Rufus also tells that, except for about 4,500 wounded, 150 Macedonians were killed in action, and 302 were missing. This means that the army had lost about one tenth of its strength. "Issus" had been a hard fought victory."
Seems about right. Winning armies tend to lose a lot less soldiers because most of the killing is usually done in the chasing of the routing losing side. Also the wounded of the losers usually mostly die or are executed on the spot. Though I'm not sure Curtius Rufus actually mentions 4500 wounded and I do not trust Livius org to correctly report on that (I've seen them make errors and even contradict themselves), this was the best I could find so far.Simanos (talk) 15:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed sources for casualty figures