Talk:Kelleys Island, Ohio

message: Perhaps a reference to this URL would do the job:
http://www.ohiohistory.org/places/glacial/
What is this stuff about mob connections and the guy who owns the ferry? It's hardly relevant at all. I heard that the guy who drives the ferry was charged with posession of marijuana- should that be on there too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.141.203 (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glacial Grooves 

message: Removal of Trip Advisor
External Link to Copyrighted Site and Hotel aggregate booking engine
1. Trip advisor claims it's copyright distictively and clearly by prohibiting linking to it's copyrighted material. It states:
[Copyrighted material removed]
2. Trip Advisor (A division of Expedia) IS a hotel booking site therefore by reading below you can see it is in "What not to link to" Further more I have placed other editors comments to support this position below. I hope this clears it up for you.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:External_links
What not to link to
Avoid linking to secondary sources - for example, avoid links to:
Hotel or travel booking services or aggregators
Nightlife guides and reviews in nightlife guides
Restaurant guides and reviews in restaurant guides
Blogs, forums and social networking sites (facebook, etc).
Lists of links, service directories (including WiFi directories)
Price comparison websites
Map services
Newspaper and magazine articles
Personal image galleries and photo/video sharing websites (Flickr, Webshots, YouTube, etc)
Personal travelogues
Search engine results (http://www.google.com/search?q=Montreal)
Wikipedia articles that have a different subject to the Wikitravel article
Other travel guides, including audio guides, audio tours, virtual tours and webcams
Vacation rental agencies that do not meet Wikitravel's rental listing criteria
Tour operators that do not meet Wikitravel's tour listing criteria
Rental cars operators, in cities where they are common (10 or more operating in the city). Typically we don't provide details of national car rental chains in local guides. Providing details at the national level, and mentioning the name and location at local level is sufficient if required.
We should avoid links to other travel guides, to ensure we have travel information in Wikitravel, not linked from Wikitravel. This is an incentive issue; if we have lots of links to other travel guides, we lose the impetus to create our own. In addition, one of our goals is to produce a guide useful for printing or offline use, and therefore we need information to be within the article rather than linked to at another site.
In addition to not linking to other travel guides, avoid references to third-party ratings and rankings unless they are truly exceptional. For example, "Lonely Planet approved" should be avoided since there are thousands of businesses that are "Lonely Planet approved", but "rated the #2 hotel in the Middle East by Generic Travel Magazine in 2010" might be worth mentioning. Note that listings that include such references but that provide no mention of why the business is highly rated offer little value to travelers, so do not use this information instead of actually describing the establishment.
The continual changes of the hotel links in this article to what appears to be a third-party booking site violates several policies on this site, most notably Wikitravel:Don't tout and Wikitravel:External links. To the anonymous user who repeatedly makes these changes - please stop. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:29, 30 November 2008 (EST)
Please read the policies linked above, specifically Wikitravel:External links. The site being linked to is not a web site for the hotel, it's a general reservation site, which is explicitly called out in our policies as something NOT to link to. Even if this new site is owned by the same company the Wikitravel policies are designed to prevent spamming, and redirecting official hotel/restaurant/whatever links to bucket sites is a favorite tactic of spammers. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:44, 30 November 2008 (EST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.101.164.201 (talk)  
:You are aware, aren't you, that we're not Wikitravel? Unlike many other major wikis, Wikitravel is not even affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation, which oversees Wikipedia. Consequently, its policies are totally irrelevant to Wikipedia. Nyttend (talk) 04:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Moreover, trying to you've copied copyrighted material from the booking website onto this talk page. That's a copyright violation, so I've removed it. Nyttend (talk) 04:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You've completely refactored the comments here on this talk page; between that and your appeal to irrelevant policies (you do know, don't you, that it's fine to link to copyrighted material if the source owns the copyright?), this has gotten past the point of assuming good faith—you're obviously being disruptive. To prevent continued disruption, I've semiprotected the article to prevent further disruption. Nyttend (talk) 17:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

text: It's called you've appealed to Wikitravel guidelines. We're free to ignore all the Wikitravel guidelines that we want, because they don't apply to us. It's vaguely like laws in different countries—if you're in the USA, you're free to speak out against politicians in North Korea, even though their laws prohibit such protests, since North Korean law isn't applicable in the USA. Moreover, in your zeal to enforce guidelines, you've repeatedly violated US law by copying large segments of copyrighted text from this website: unlike Wikitravel guidelines (and Wikipedia guidelines, for that matter), there can be offwiki consequences for copyright violations. Nyttend (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Kindly follow WP:NPA; your tone is not contributing positively here. As far as this subject goes—first off, our TripAdvisor article says that it's a free website; I fail to see how a free site is capable of selling products or services. Moreover, it's not primarily an advertising website; it contains ads, but so do most other websites, and the contents of the page are primarily non-advertising links such as photos or lists of places in the village. Nyttend (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Find me this statement. I don't remember ever making such a statement, and I seriously doubt that I did—as far as I know, your statements are the first time that I've ever encountered the term "booking engine". I've already ceased to assume good faith with you, due to your repeated personal attacks and copyright violations; this statement is not helping your position. Nyttend (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  source dump 

message: I think the above discussion went onto a bit of a tangent, so wanted to re-open the discussion on the external link to tripadvisor: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g50497-Kelleys_Island_Ohio-Vacations.html
Tripadvisor contains several reviews which could be relevent, and those types of subpages are used within multiple other articles. But after searching their site, I can find no such reviews for Kelleys Island. Instead, this external link points to a commercial page which only has links for booking travel. It doesn't expand on the understanding of the subject, only helps in booking travel related to the destination. By including this link, Wikipedia is effectively placing tripadvisor above all other travel service providers, and is a form of advertising for tripadvisor. While I disagree with the anon's methods, I do agree with the removal of this link. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. If you look at the left side of the page, you'll see a stack of links (between the green boxes of "Kelleys Island" and "Free Newsletter") that point to useful pages; while not all of them are actual links, ones such as "Photos" and "Things to Do" are useful, and they seem to me to be the kind of page that our readers would find useful because they expand on the understanding of the subject. Nyttend (talk) 01:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I already saw the links on the left - I had searched them all while trying to find anything on a subpage that would expand on an encyclopedic understanding of the community; instead, all I found were additional promotional travel booking material. The limited material found on those pages are already better addressed within the existing links, or is replaceable via a more neutral site such as dmoz. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 02:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Restarting discussion

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In this article about Kelleys Island, Ohio is the parenthetical 
sentence:
(*-Also note that the surname 'Cunningham' is not typically of French origin,
but is recorded to be of Scottish origin.)
''
   My mother's sister married Leslie Cunningham.  His ancestors emigrated to
Quebec from Scotland.  Later (abt. 1845),  some members of the family emi-
grated to Ohio.  A specific example is:
   John Adam Cunningham [1]
   Birth: 29 JUN 1820 in Saint Joseph, Sl, Quebec
   Death: 10 AUG 1891 in Defiance, Defiance, Ohio, USA
His father was:
   John Adam Cunningham [2]
   Birth: ABT 1791 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland
   Christening: 02 NOV 1819 Les Cedres, Sl, Quebec
   Death: ABT 1844 in Quebec
   Thus, Mr. Cunningham mentioned in the article may have also been of
Scottish ancestry but may have been born in Quebec and regarded as 
French by implication.
Sources:
 1. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:MZZX-R6K
 2. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:MZZX-T71
GregOpp (talk) 19:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestry of Mr. Cunningham  

message: why is there no mention of this history?
I don't know. It might be another article. Can someone with more information on it correct the issue? Empire of Ohio (talk) 18:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  confederate prison