Talk:Doxology

message: Regarding the doxology after the Paternoster in Matthew, we are told that:
:: According to Scrivener's "Supplement to the Authorized English version of New Testament", it is omitted by eight out of 500 or so manuscripts
Without context, this makes it seem like the omission is a very rare occurence, but forgets to mention what those eight manuscripts are, or that many of the 500 are families of copies of one another. The mere number of manuscripts means very little - most scholars will stand with Sinaiticus and Vaticanum where they agree, against all the rest. This could be clarified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.27.204.77 (talk) 23:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Misleading use of textual criticism

message: I was going to change the first sentence to read (usually the Trinity) because that was my first thought, but held back in case I was wrong (I was wrong once in 1982).  Any other opinions on this?  Quill 22:36, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is that correct?  I would think that the "Praise God from Whom all blessings flow" doxology would be much more prevalent. BigDT 15:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's correct. Only Protestants use "Praise God from Whom all blessings flow". InfernoXV 04:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gloria Patri is the most common Doxology? 

message: The United Methodist site says:
"The doxology most familiar to United Methodists is the hymn "Old 100th" with the opening line, "Praise God, from whom all blessings flow." In many United Methodist churches, this is listed in worship bulletins as "The Doxology" and is sung by the congregation as the offering is brought forward." http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=258&GID=121&GMOD=VWD&GCAT=D
Why does the other doxology say: "used by Catholics, Orthodox, and many Protestants including Anglicans and Methodists"?
: I've been to several Methodist churches in the US and UK.  Some use the Gloria Patri, but most use the Ken text.  The way the article is phrased does not imply that all Methodists use the Gloria Patri, but perhaps it should be reworded. --W0lfie 02:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Methodist Doxology 

message: I have been told that the term "doxology" in fact means "100th" and derives from the tune "Old 100th."  Is that not correct?
:It's wrong. InfernoXV 04:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derivation 

message: I made a research on the history of the article. I believe that it was Frjwoolley who, with his revision of 21:33, 27 May 2005, introduced the following paragraph: 
This doxology, as well as praising God, has been regarded as a short declaration of faith in the co-equality of the three Persons of the Holy Trinity.  Another early form ("Glory be to the Father, with the Son, through the Holy Spirit") was originally used by the Orthodox along with the more familiar wording, but came to be used exclusively by Arians and others who denied the divinity of the Son and Holy Spirit. 
The present form of the paragraph (which is at the beginning of the section  Other doxologies), is:
Doxologies do not all refer to a co-equal Trinity, and some do not refer to the Trinity at all. An early variation on the Gloria Patri ("Glory be to the Father, with the Son, through the Holy Spirit") was originally used by the Orthodox along with the more familiar wording, but this came to be used exclusively by the Arians and others who denied the divinity of the Son and Holy Spirit
As I could not find the source for the information in this paragraph, I have appended to it a  warning.</br>Miguel de Servet (talk) 22:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  An early Orthodox form of the "Glory Be" 

message: The third paragraph of this section is word-for-word identical to http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/w/awakemys.htm  Which copied which?  Does it matter? What should be done?--Bruce Hall (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Praise God, from Whom all blessings flow" section quoted verbatim?

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