Talk:Final Fantasy XIII/Archive 1

message: Is this mentioned in the Gamers envelope article? I'm guessing not, since it says "it's rumored to be". Also I remember reading a post by someone on the PS3 boards (I think) saying that they "liked to call" this battle system "stop-fusion". Is there a transcript or other report about this interview?
Grianne 10:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The original interview was posted here :  Oh.cera 12:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, at first I was excited when I saw that, but it looks like that poster doesn't have a genuine source yet (as some posters on the forum are pointing out too). I tried googling for "gamers/z envelope" and variants and turned up nada ... but as he says it's a very "secretive place". ;) I also checked this dude's past posts and he is the person who mentioned "stop-fusion" is what he "calls" the battle system . Still I think we should wait a little bit before it's decided to be fraudulent or not. For all we know, it could be true. I've just seen so many hoaxes on the net, I'm very jaded. :p Grianne 14:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maybe refrences to that interview should be removed. I just looked up that poster's other posts and they seem pretty questionable. Especially since he can't even give a web site url for the company. Oh.cera 03:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly think it's a load of BS, and so do most people, it seems. I can only assume that he's the one who keeps coming in and adding stuff about it to the article. Well, I'm going to go rewrite some of the Combat section in a few minutes. There are some better observations about the battle system that can be added to it. Grianne 15:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop-fusion 

message: I just added a better quality screenshot of the gunblade taken from the official site trailer (and I'm about to add a link to that as well). Grianne 18:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: wow, demanding. its a new modified gunblade, and probably a true gunblade because it is a gun (obviously) and switches to a sword, whereas the original "gunblade" was merely a sword with the handle of a gun and did not shoot at all... so i think an F and a U are in order... -Xornok 00:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CIVIL, please. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 18:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ill be civil when people become more polite. i dont do well when people just come and say "Do this, change that" like they own the place... sorry tho -Xornok 20:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CIVIL doesn't say be civil when others are civil towards you. It says always be civil. Being rude to people when they are rude doesn't help anything. In future, try to bite your tongue and point out WP:CIVIL instead. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 20:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, captain, my captain, sir. *salutes*... -Xornok 21:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: To quote the Wikipedia page on Gunblades: "Though [Other] weapons are often referred to as 'gunblades' among fans of Final Fantasy, only those weapons in the style used by Seifer and Squall in Final Fantasy VIII are officially referred to by that title." So until Square-Enix release something official (Like the instruction manual character bio) that refers to the weapon as a gunblade, it should be refered to as a dual perpose weapon- A gun that locks into the hilt of a sword.--Simondrake 22:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: read this article again then, it says gunblade-like, not a gunblade. it mostly resembles a gunblade and as you just said, we dont have a name for it, so calling gunblade-like gives readers at least a starting point as to what the weapon looks like... -Xornok 23:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well it may not look much like the ffviii gunblades, but it certainly functions like one, i.e its a gun and a blade. Thats why I wrote Gunblade-like and not just Gunblade. I expect it will be given a different name eventually but until then I say leave it as it is. Iron Ghost 21:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Gunblade is just a fancy name for a bayonet anyway. I do think at one point it was in between a sword and a gun.--Claude 04:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: That doesn't change the fact that Bayonets had been called Gunblades by some long before FFVIII was ever made.--Claude 04:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gunblade 

message: According to the videos on YouTube and comparing them to the pictures on here, it seems that there's one teaser preview and one real. 
Rabid coathangers eat da world 12:17, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teaser  

message: It was written on the article that six titles have been confirmed, and that they're rumoured to be coming out for the 360. The 360 rumour has no base and is merely speculation. Square Enix also said nothing about there being six titles, only that they planned more, and presented a diagram with three empty circles (representing that there will be more titles, not announcing how many). I've edited the paragraph with what has been confirmed instead of what is being speculated. Vibriante 19:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Six Titles 

message: I changed the reference from Kingdom Hearts "pioneering" realtime RPG combat to Seiken Densetsu, Square's first realtime RPG series as it makes more sense to refer to something that has more experience and age in the category than something that just come out a few years ago.--Claude 04:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pioneering 

message: It has not been announced that Final Fantasy XIII will have an online system like the Phantasy Star games. The translation of the Dengeki article (which is very hazy, all translations of it have turned out differently) only said they were thinking about 'maybe' implementing a few online features into the game. It has also not been said that a demo will be available for players in 2007, it has only been presumed by some that FFXIII will be playable at E3 2007. There is a giant difference. I removed both sections from the article.Vibriante 19:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online & Demo Sections 

message: "It has been said that there is no 'main character', and that the game will center around multiple characters."
Who said that? Can someone confirm this? Beacuse I read this after the E3: 
"The woman in the trailer is probably not the main character however the developers want to give a prominent role in the game to a strong, independent woman."
"It has been said" is not a good source IMO.  --83.109.102.106 11:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No 'main character'

message: "The game was originally planned for the PlayStation 2 but was later moved to the PlayStation 3 after the development team discovered the power of the platform."
I find this hard to believe. The "development team" would have known what the Playstation 3's "power" would have been as soon as the PS3's release date was announced, and they would have had a general idea long before that. It's not like it has a microchip in it from the future. It'd be pretty silly if they still intended to release FF13 on the Playstation 2 a year after the Playstation 3 had been out.
: I know, but SE said that they developed the white engine for the PS2 and with that FFxiii for the "old" plattform. They changed their mind. I guess that FF12 took so long that it was, as you said, a waste to make FFxiii game for ps2. Upgrade! --83.109.118.58 21:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Development Team Comment 

message: This fansite is continually being readded by anonymous users and then removed by signed-in editors. We need to come to some sort of consensus; as it is, it just looks like admins or users of that site coming over here and plugging it solely for their benefit. SynergyBlades 18:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the article be temporarily locked until it seems to pass? --Assassingod 19:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, but since it has been edited on and off practically since the article was created, I doubt it'll go away. SynergyBlades 10:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just had to remove the link again, same user as before.-- Assassingod 16:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  finalfantasy-xiii.net 

message: Do tactics, tactics advance, that one on gamecube, ffx-2, et al. not count? It's the FF with the thirteenth number assigned to it, but it is not the thirteenth installment of FF. Don't know how many other installments there are so I didn't edit it.
:There's a full list on wikipedia somewhere. If you include the Chocobo based spin offs but don't count the remakes, compliations or films then it's 50 odd.  If you do include them and all the different language versions and ports to different consoles there's probably over a hundred.
:I think it's easier to leave it as 13th.
:Especially since other games might come out before this one so the number would keep changing even if we could track down all the different versions.Simondrake 21:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thirteenth Installment? 

message: Is this really coming out on the Wii or is that a mistake/vandalism? I thought it was PS3 exclusive.
It's vandalism. There has been nothing announced by Square-Enix hinting at a Wii launch. This game is almost certainly a PS3 exclusive. Kitmitsu 17:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii 

message: I've read many different analysis' of the FFXIII trailer and I know they vary quite a bit because of the poor English voice over but some of the facts in the article I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else. It's probably true but I've not seen it mentioned that Cocoon is government controlled and the whole part about people being "cast out into the world below" I've not seen anywhere before. Can anyone get references for this section? because we need them unless its actually an account of a person who saw the trailer personally. Kitmitsu 19:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: World