Talk:Mel Blanc/Archive 1

message: * Mel Blanc was a Universal Life Church Minister. Source: http://www.ulcministers.com/Famous-ulc-ministers.php  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CurranWhite (talk • contribs) 04:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misc. Facts 

message: To Maveric149: I just updated Yosemite Sam and Taz.
See this lovely page: http://www.hlla.com/reference/wb.html
My source for Woody Woodpecker wasIMDB
: yes, Mel voiced Woody in the first three of his cartoons. Even after he signed an exclusive contract with Warners in 1941, Walter Lantz continued to use a recording of Mel's laugh in later cartoons until 1948, when he sued Lantz because of it. --b. Touch 22:33, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources 

message: I temporarily added proposed template User:Who/Voice actor to this article for proposal purposes only.  It will be removed after 1 week or fixed if proposed template created.  It will not affect readers nor editors, view of the article. Please do not remove.  Thank you.   <>Who?¿? 03:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  voice actor template 

message: "Born in San Francisco, California, he grew up in Portland, Oregon, attending Lincoln High School. At 16 he changed the spelling of his last name."  FROM WHAT??????
Answer: From "Blank," which he disliked for obvious reasons. As a whimsical play on words, Mel named his son "Noel."  What's the joke?  "Noel Blanc" means "white Christmas" in French.  (Answer from Chuck McKibben, former Studio Operations Manager of Mel Blanc Audiomedia, Beverly Hills, CA, now a voiceover artist and teacher in the New York City-Long Island area as of 2006.  Stories of the Blanc studio era can be found at VoiceoverIsland.com.)    
Adam Holland 22:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed spelling of name 

message: This article doesn't even mention Mel's wife Estelle! And this article has a lot of interesting info about the penniless nature of Mel's early career. This material would be terrific in helping to flesh out the article; I may work on it when I have time. - Brian Kendig 08:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wife and early years

message: Blanc was one of literally hundreds of individuals that were auditioned by director George Lucas to provide the voice for the character of C-3PO for his 1977 motion picture Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, and it was he who ultimately suggested that the producers utilize mime actor Anthony Daniels' own voice in the role. I recall a Star Wars television special from last year which stated that Stan Freberg was the one who had this idea. Anyone have a reference either way? - Brian Kendig 08:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: C-3P0's voice

message: I have reverted the last edit by 67.19.229.122 to the previous edit which happens to be by me because at the time American Express did NOT offer any Credit card products, All of their cards were considered to be a Charge card the difference between a Charge card and a credit card is that with a Charge card all charges made must be paid-off in full each month, rather than having revolving credit which carries a balance forward every month which is exactly what a credit card is. It wasn't until the late 1980's/Early 1990's that American Express started to offer any Credit Card products. Misterrick 02:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mel Blanc's American Express TV Commercial

message: Is there a good source to support a mention of voices he did for characters in TV commercials?  I'm pretty sure he was the voice of the Frito Bandito, before concerns about cultural insensitivity axed that character.  Also I recently saw a VERY early Froot Loops commercial (predating the Paul Frees Ronald Colman-style voice) that was clearly Blanc's voice. Karen | Talk | contribs 21:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TV Commercials

message: This interview with Mel Blanc's son, Noel, sets the record straight about his father's allergy to carrots (he wasn't) and his audition for Star Wars (not true.)
Here is the interview: 
72.88.209.138 16:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely correct: Blanc didn't audition for Star Wars: A New Hope; that was Stan Freberg.  —  Cinemaniac (talk) 21:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: actually, all Noel says in that interview is that he didn't know anything about Lucas saying Blanc wasn't right for the role.  Anthony Daniels (C-3PO) said in an interview (on the extras disc of the Starwars Trilogy DVD box set) that the man who suggested to use his voice was "A man of Literally a thousand voices", which does heavily imply that it was BlancWinterdenni (talk) 16:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

text: The name of the routine was "The Little Mexican", or some such. "Sí...Sy...sew...Sue" or "Sí...Sy...Sue...sew" or whatever is just a guideline. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a great clip. Gentle humor, the kind they don't do anymore. And funny stuff, to us old-timers. And as with any known quantity (the audience knew immediately what was up and laughed in anticipation), they had to keep changing it to keep the audience guessing. "Yes, sir." "Did you say, 'Yes, sir'?" "Sí." There were endless variations on this bit, some of which are described in Blanc's book. This also illustrates well Benny's use of timing. He had no problem with just standing there, striking his famous hand-on-face pose, looking around at nothing in particular, deadpan, waiting as long as necessary for just the right time to do the next line.  Other comics such as Johnny Carson and Kelsey Grammer openly cited Benny as an inspiration to their approach to comedy. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Two more, if you like the routine. The first one is Jack Benny's last appearance with Mel Blanc on Johnny Carson - and a short older b&w version Manway (talk) 04:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Great stuff. A couple of subtleties. One, Carson lighting up on-camera. It was reported that he once told someone privately, in the 1970s, "These things are killing me." Eventually, he was right. Also, I noticed how Benny had such trouble keeping a straight face, regardless (or maybe because of) the countless times they had done that bit. And a third bit, the "English horse" deal. He did the whinny by pressing his finger onto the side of his nose. In the original "Henery Hawk" cartoon, Foghorn Leghorn claims he's a horse, and proceeds to whinny, and is shown using that Blanc technique while doing so. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracies in article 

message: I and several other editors are engaging in a discussion and investigation concerning Mel Blanc's use of "Happy Rabbit" as the name of the Bugs Bunny prototype.  I think we're getting close to putting "Happy Rabbit" to rest, but anyone is invited to go to my discussion forum  and participate in the investigation.
Also, I think the section title "Benny/Bugsy Crossover" is a little odd-sounding.  (After all, isn't the article about Blanc?)  It probably should be retitled "Benny/Blanc/Bugs Crossover". Or something along those lines.  Just a thought.  —  Cinemaniac (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, the discussion continued here and the case closed here. Conclusion: "Happy Rabbit" = Mel Blanc's fantasy. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 00:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mel Blanc "Happy Rabbit" Mystery on the Way to Solution 

message: I just stumbled across a couple of incorrect redirects--and incomplete info--in the character list. The Wacky Races origin of the Ant Hill Mob was ignored, making a link of them redirects to Perils of Penelope Pitstop, and their Perils car, Chugga-Boom, which replaced the one they drove in the Races, redirects to Races. I've revised the list to eliminate those problems here, but the redirects still exist in the system. I tried to change an incorrect title on an unrelated article--it contained a spelling of the character's name that was a typo in the on-screen graphics in his second and last appearance on the TV series Airwolf, so I changed the article's title to the correct spelling--and caused problems. I changed the other linked usages of the name--all that I could find--but that problem still exists in the system, and I don't want to take the chance of causing another one here. So I simply point out the situation here and ask someone with more experience in such things to fix them. Ted Watson (talk) 21:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong redirects in character list 

message: Deleted a bit of the article saying that Blanc appeared using 'only 999 voices, which is really only about 7'. Blanc said himself in numerous interviews that he used about 400 different voices, and saying that this is 'really only about 7' is ludicrous, since as Blanc himself argued, each was clearly recognisable. I don't know what the author of this comment had in mind as to what constitutes a distinct voice, but I would suggest that this is out of left field and better replaced with a more sensible 'factoid'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.156.24 (talk) 21:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The explanation is simple: The one who wrote it is a smart-aleck. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 01:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What's especially frustrating to me is that I actually didn't revert that myself.  I don't know how it got by me, but it did.  Thank you, 86.131.156.24. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 02:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It happens to the best of us vandal-swatters. Sometimes one o' them li'l gnats slip by. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it back in, revised for clarity. The passage is and always was expressly referring to a scene in the short Curtain Razor (which was seen out of context as a tribute on TNT when Blanc passed away), in which a turtle claims to talent agent Porky Pig that he has a thousand voices, and then demonstrates. Porky then tells him he did only 999, and the turtle walks out, promising the pig, "I'll get it!" Mel actually does only about seven voices here; for example, Foghorn Leghorn's can clearly be heard several times. Vandalism it ain't! Ted Watson (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that you mention it, I think I remember that short. Wasn't that one directed by Robert McKimson, 'cause I recall the film using his design of Porky, what with the bowtie and all. I can also remember caricatures of Al Jolson and Bing Crosby appearing, trying to land a job. Yeah! I do remember! Sorry. . . you're right: It wasn't vandalism. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 22:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Even though WillOakland deleted this and several other tidbits from the "Homages and tributes" section, I went ahead and re-inserted a lot of that information back in, as it wasn't trivial and in fact carried encyclopedic weight. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 00:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

text: If you'd like, you can join in this discussion at Ted Watson's talk page; there, you will find a link to two other discussions concerning WillOakland's more-or-less nonconstructive edits. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 01:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYI 

message: The first item in "Other credits," which just happens to be immediately after the bottom of the character list, says that an ultimately unused track Mel recorded for Pinocchio, a hiccup used in that film and the WB character cameos he voiced in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? are the only work he did for Disney. However, somebody just added two more characters from that early film and Nana, the dog from the Disney company's animated Peter Pan, to the list. None of this—including the textual statement—is sourced. Anybody know what if any out of all this is right? I sure don't, but something needs to be done. Ted Watson (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blanc's work for  Disney--trouble! 

message: The article's infobox has been going back and forth between Estelle's life dates and her and Mel's marriage dates next to her name. The instructional page that Manway linked in as part of his most recent edit summary makes absolutely no mention of this issue, NONE. Logic demands that the marriage dates are more relevant to the subject of an article than the life span of his/her spouse, especially when said subject had more than one spouse. See  Lee Meriwether for one example. That's not specifically applicable here, of course, but the requirement of consistency throughout the encyclopedia makes it a relevant precedent nonetheless. IMHO, the only question is whether the dates should be left to simple years—as it stands at this writing—or the full dates of their wedding and Mel's passing. Does anybody still want to try to make a case for Estelle's life span? Does Manway want to apologize for misrepresenting the content of that page? --Ted Watson (talk) 22:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Quote from WP:DATES: "In biographical infobox templates, provide age calculation with birth date and age for living people and death date and age for the deceased when the full birth or death date, respectively, is known." It says nothing about marriage dates. Apology acccepted, Tbrittreid. Let's move on. Manway (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates for Estelle? 

message: I'm surprised there is no mention of Mel Blanc's work on the Judy Canova show. Mel voiced at least two regular characters on that show: Pedro, who seems to be a prototype for Speedy Gonzales, and Sylvester, whose voice is essentially identical to the later animated cat of the same name. Fdmundo (talk) 00:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BEBOLD and add it! Just make sure you use reliable sources. I must admit, I was not familiar with Judy Canova - until I Googled her. Quite a talent - and Blanc is indeed mentioned in her Wiki article. --Manway (talk) 04:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judy Canova Show 

message: I'd like to say that Pinocchio and Roger Rabbit WEREN'T the only known work he did for Disney animation. He also did the voice of Raja the Tiger, from Goliath II.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkclaw1256 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinocchio and Roger Rabbit only Disney credits? 

message: Reference #4, which points at a YouTube video, is now dead, as the video has been removed.--Cogniac (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Reference 

message: Start the video at 0:33, and despite there being no evidence of Mel Blanc doing this certain role, it's identical to Yosemite Sam/Foghorn Leghorn; can't really tell. Mewtwowimmer (talk) 00:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly sounds like him. Googling the subject, it appears that Blanc had several appearances on the Wally Gator series. He was mostly a Hanna-Barbera employee by then. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  It certainly is him. The southern alligator was voiced by Mel Blanc and contrary to Mewtwowimmer's theory, that there is no evidence, there is. Wally Gator was made alongside Touche Turtle and Dum Dum and Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har ; Mel Blanc voiced Hardy Har Har with his George Burns and Gracie Allen voice, The Happy Postman. Radiohist (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this voice Mel Blanc? 

message: In A Man of 1000 Voices Mels son states that his real cause of death was mistreatment in the hospital after being checked in for a routine cold, should this be checked more in to? Lilduff90 (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The accusation will be significant if a malpractice lawsuit is ever filed. Until then it is angry conjecture, with slim basis. Binksternet (talk) 17:11, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mel's death 

message: Just re watched this masterpiece and at about 18 minutes in, Quatro has a dummy(Quinto) who is very clearly voiced by Mel Blanc, it sounds way too much like the original Bugs Bunny for it not to be Mel Blanc. In Fact the IMDB lists Mel Blanc as Quinto (uncredited)
Any chance we can get this added to his List of voice work? Kaykins (talk) 03:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snow White and The Three Stooges 

message: An editor is edit warring over my change to the description in the lede graf and the infobox of what Blanc did.  Let's look at the choices:
*Voice actor - definitely accurate, he did many voices for many cartoons
*Actor - definitely accurate - he played many small parts on The Jack Benny Show, both on radio and on television.  He was almost never "Mel Blanc", he always had a character name.  This is acting.
*Comedian - Well.... not in the sense that we mean by "comedian" today, which is someone who does stand-up.  In another era an actor who specialized in comic parts would be called a "comedian", but that usage has almost completely fallen away.  Therefore, in today's parlance, it's more accurate to say that he was a...
*Comic actor - All his acting parts were comic in nature
*Radio personality - Not really. Benny was a radio personality, Bing Crosby was a radio personality, Blanc appeared a lot on radio, that's not the same thing.
Therefore, I think that the description should be "comic actor and voice actor".  That covers pretty much everythiong Blanc did in his career.  The editor in question keeps reverting to "Voice actor, comedian and radio personality".  For the reasons given yabove, I do not believe that these are an accurate description of what Blanc did in his long career. BMK (talk) 03:58, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *Another possible description could be "comic and voice actor"; it's less repetitive in the use of "actor". Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:57, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *Except the word "comic" by itself has a different connotation than "comic actor".  "Voice and comic actor" might be OK, though. BMK (talk) 06:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description of Blanc 

message: Isn't he a radio personality too? because, it even says in the article that he spend some of his sixty-plus-year career performing in radio. FrozenFan2 (talk) 00:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we discussed this.  My reasons are above.  He was nver a radio "personality" he was a radio performer. Please stop screwing around the artcile when you clearly know very little about the subject. BMK (talk) 02:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

text: No, it's not the same, as has been discussed.  You should drop this before it gets you blocked for WP:Tendentious editing. BMK (talk) 22:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio Personality

message: Instead of putting radio personality back in the infobox, should we put in, "radio actor" instead? or no? because it will make it sound a little better, If not, then I will leave it the way it is. FrozenFan2 (talk) 00:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio actor

message: He's in those films as what IMDb said he is credited in the cast lists. As I've been told before, IMDb is not a source. So I need to find a better one next time. FrozenFan2 (talk) 18:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read WP:RS/IMDB so that you understand why IMDB is not a reliable source?  Basically, it's because readers of IMDB can add information to cast lists and other parts of the site, and IMDB is not very good about checking up to see if the information is accurate.  This makes the site unreliable.  Try using TCM.COM and Allmovie.com, which do not accept reader's input and are considered tobe reliable sources. BMK (talk) 18:44, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I think it's highly unlikely that Blanc would do voices for Disney while under contract to Warner Bros. BMK (talk) 18:45, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Anything stated at IMDB is not evidence that he did voice work in those films. It is a well known fact that IMDB does not fact check info submitted there. So based on this edit summary someone submitted the info at IMDb and, when it showed up there, you added it here. MarnetteD|Talk 18:47, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

text: Well, you put a "retired" banner on your talk page, but you're still editing, and still reverting people who remove unsourced information. Putting a "retired" banner up doesn't protect you from people correcting your errors. BMK (talk) 20:23, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to read WP:DIVA. This is not your playground, we are doing serious work here, and you must follow the same rules as everyone else. If you're retired, then stop editing, you've now made three "last edits before retiring", all of them after you put up the "retired" banner.(BTW, I'd rather be having this conversation on your talk page, but that's impossible since you simply delete everything that's posted there that criticizes you in the smallest way - thus, the conversation has to be here, in a pubic place that you do not control.) BMK (talk) 20:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

text: And yet you are still editing articles. An odd definition of the word 'retired', no? --‖ Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 20:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The Aristocats, The Sword in the Stone and Lady and the Tramp

message: I saw a film called: Champagne for Caesar and it credits Mel Blanc as the voice of the parrot, but don't see that on this page's filmography?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.250.240 (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is there, in "Films" dated 1950. Mediatech492 (talk) 05:14, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Parrot?