Talk:Siouxsie Sioux

message: They might have started out as a punk band, but they soon became goth IMHO - Steeev 22:55, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: This page needs to be cleaned up, the beginning sounds too much like the beginning of Siouxise and the Banshees: The Authorized Biography. Zombieliving 23:45, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: Sid left the Banshees to join/form "The Flowers of Romance" - which is where he started using his famous nom de plume - with various people who later appeared in The Slits and The Raincoats (from memory). This band did not gig (as far as I am aware), so I have not edited the article as there is little point. I have edited the Pirroni bit as Adam and the Ants released records in the period between Marco leaving the Banshees and joining Mr Ant.
:I also agree that the early period of the article duplicates much of Siouxsie & the Banshees article.LessHeard vanU 12:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sid Vicious played for the Banshees at the 100 club for one gig. I think it was because their drummer had gone off somewhere or something else stupid like that, but I'm certain it happened. It's in the various biographies about him that I have Ripswitched (talk) 17:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sid Vicious 

message: It would be great if someone could add a discussion of the controversy she faced for wearing swastica-adorned clothing... her critics, her defenses, and what came of that issue
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomtext279 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and it's not enough to just say in the article that donning Nazi garb simply "was not a political statement", and it doesn't prove anything to point to anti-Nazi, pro-Israel songs she later wrote "to stop controversy". She may not have written them to stop controversy, and even if she did, it doesn't necessarily affect the original intent of the swastikas. Citations are absolutely needed for these claims. Please find an interview or something where this topic was brought up and official statements were made! —mjb (talk) 17:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi Controversy 

message: "the Bromley Contingent followed the Pistols to France, where Siouxsie was beaten up for wearing a black armband with a swastika on it."
So it's okay if a woman gets beaten up for waering swastika's. Which is completely sexist! And hypocrtical. The "punks" who beat her up were obviously left-wing or Jewish or what have you. but this goes against everything the Left stands for! So why was Siouxsie attacked when many punks of the 70's wore swastikas as well, such as Johnny Thunders (R.I.P), Dee Dee Ramone (R.I.P), The Dead Boys, Sid Vicious (R.I.P.) Captain Sensible and many, many more... So what's the deal?!?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.149.124.180 (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  But having said that... 

message: This is already policy, and nothing new being started here.  You can see it in examples 16 and 17 here, WP:NONFREE#Examples_of_unacceptable_use.  Wikipedia has a strong preference for free rather than copyrighted images, because under direction from the Foundation we are a part of, we try to make the articles as freely reusable as possible, not just here but on other websites.  Copyrighted pictures cannot always be used on other sites, so whenever there is another picture that will do we use that one.  As a band that is still active (sort of), anyone who wants to get a totally free picture can take a photo of them at a concert or a publicity event, and more than likely there are some out there already.  Therefore, instead of using the record album cover photo we should look for a free image.  Most artists do not have album covers as their main picture, and that is allowable only under specific circumstances.  Artist discographies are usually lower in the page, and they can and are being erased under the policy.  That's the reason in a nutshell. The Parsnip! 23:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why we can't use the album cover in the infobox 

message: Since consensus can change and User:Carliertwo is the only editor who insists on adding in all the irrelevant and too detailed information whilst other editors have not reverted the changes, it is clear that the consensus has changed. If Carliertwo can build a new consensus here to show that information should be re-added I will happily back down. --JD554 (talk) 14:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You should read more properly. No one has changed the "influence on other artists" since 14 months and no one complained about this chapter in the talk page. Here, above, there is only one remark from a goth fan who wasn't agree with the Shirley manson statement of the "musical genre" part. Member JD554, you haven't got any authority here so, you're not allowed to write "If Carliertwo can build a new consensus here to show that information should be re-added I will happily back down" : message received loud and clear. I hope. Reminder : The content of the "influence on other artists" has been judged valid since 14 months. apart from three people JD554, the follower of Wesley Dodds, and an anonymous member. these three people are in a minority, only here to make trouble. That is now patent. Carliertwo (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I suggest you read WP:OWN. I have every right to edit any article on Wikipedia and cite any Wikipedia guideline to back up my edits. Just because the article hasn't been edited in 14 months doesn't make it correct to have it that way, if an article needs fixing it doesn't matter how long it has been. --JD554 (talk) 15:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences section 

message: Please stop edit warring on this point. With multiple editors opposing its inclusion -- I don't think the sourcing is solid enough, and it really is trivia -- and the objection about it having nothing to with musical influence is well taken. If it were only my objection, I'd drop the point, but with two editors opposed and only you supporting, you should make the case for your content here and try to gain consensus. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your opinion. I repeat what  wrote on User:Carliertwo's talk page. "Please do not delete it because you think it is trivial. Other people may be interested in this. This page is about Siouxsie Sioux the public person and she has inspired some game makers to include a reference to her in a game that is played by millions of people. Her cultural influence extends further than just music. Thank you." I see that someone has placed a note in the "Hailed By" section. This seems like a good place. Thanks for everyone's input on this! It is important to include all information on a subject, even if it is your personal opinion that it is trivial. What is trivial for one person may not be trivial for another. There are over 11 million subscribers to World of Warcraft - this is more people than there are living in Moscow, New York City or Tokyo.Michaelbarreto (talk) 08:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  World of Warcraft 

message: Reading this in conjunction with Siouxsie and the Banshees#Legacy and influence, there seems to be a lot of duplication - of more concern is that much of the material in this article is artists referencing the band. I think that only those quotes that are directly noting Sioux's specific contribution to the band, singing and stage presence and maybe lyrics, or contemporary culture, style and attitude, should be kept. Any comment that references the band or its music properly stays only in the band article, since the music was mostly a collaborative and joint effort which is acknowledged by the credits on the records. Unless there are sources which clearly define Sioux's individual contribution to the general comments regarding SatB (or The Creatures, but I may have missed those) I shall be removing them in a short while. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  re "Influence on other artists" section 

message: Currently, there is no dominant English variant in the article. Some editors have used American English, and some have used British English. Therefore, I propose to standardise the article and use British English throughout, due to Siouxsie's strong national ties with England. Any objections? Elizium23 (talk) 20:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that the article has already been tagged with  since May 2011, so this is settled. Elizium23 (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[MOS:ENGVAR]] 

message: I saw her in concert in the 1980s and have "known" her surname to be Dallion for a quarter of a century, until 3 minutes ago.
The article should still mention that she was long known by an incorrect name, if that is really the case.
Varlaam (talk) 14:03, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dallion 

message: So... According to imdb and one another website, she's been married to a guy named Patrick Clarke since 2007. Is that accurate, or was there just a mix up? (Since Budgie's real name is Peter Clarke). Le Rusecue (talk) 04:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Siouxie is married to Pete Clarke, also known a Budgie. 109.150.121.109 (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrick Clarke? 

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message: "Her mother, Betty, was a bilingual half-Scots and half-English secretary,"
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message: I am placing a hatnote here to clarify that this singer is not another singer.  I see that the other singer already has a hatnote, and it makes sense to me that this one as well.  After all, their names are pronounced 100% identically, and someone could come across the name of this singer and wonder if it was an alternate spelling.  Best to help the reader out. Unschool 20:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: Hello. I Made an edit to the SIOUXSIE SIOUX page stating that 'like her brother she is a fan of Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club. The edit was removed because the edit was unsourced. I Got this info from the following interview in THE DAILY TELEGRAPH news paper dated 25/10/2003 (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3605285/In-black-and-white.html) and also via an interview in UNCUT Magazine in September 2007 (https://wholehoggblog.wordpress.com/tag/siouxsie-sioux/). Please can someone put in my edit as I think this is relevant information about the artist. I Do not know how to ad reference to my edits so can someone do it for me please?
Thank you Bestbass42 (talk) 09:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit removed because of ''unsourced at best''