Talk:Link Wray

message: I haven't seen any confirmation of his death. Link? googuse 09:04, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: - David Gerard 14:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

text: CNN finally reported...a nice article but over 2 weeks late!  SkaTroma 17:43, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's archive link for the CNN piece. Robman94 (talk) 02:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Death?

message: seeing as it was such an important song, i think an article on it would be very beneficial.
Joeyramoney 04:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'rumble' article 

message: This should be re-worded; fuzz-tone had happened accidentally previously, when amps had been damaged. One guitarist in particular broke his amp by dropping it but never had it repaired 'coz he liked the new sound. Wray was the first person to deliberately damage his amp to get a fuzz-tone (influenced by the aforementioned guitarist), not the first to make use of such a sound.
I got this info from Total Guitar mag, but unfortunately it's at home and I'm at uni so I can't properly source it!
Anyway, I'm still removing that info, as well as the info regarding his use of feedback as that's also inaccurate.Stratpod 21:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the bassguitar on a recording of Marty Robbins' 1961 single "Don't Worry". The channel on the mixing board was broken so it created a Fuzz like effect. Glenn Snoddy, the engineer of that recording has been credited for the invention of the Maestro Fuzz Tone. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/obituaries/glenn-snoddy-96-accidental-inventor-of-the-fuzz-tone-dies.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUUl0Y1qvuM Lenzwerf (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Invention of fuzz-tone

message: How'd he get to be called "Link"?  Maikel (talk) 21:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Short for Lincoln. --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monicker 

message: I changed the text "Wray recorded one of the better covers of the song 30 years later, somehow finding new life in this mythic, minor-key, guitar/drum dialogue which by then was also associated with everyone from The Ventures to the Incredible Bongo Band." because it was opinionated and, in my view, unencylopaedic. It now reads "Wray recorded a cover of the song 30 years later, which by then was also associated with everyone from The Ventures to the Incredible Bongo Band." If you can source a quote saying it was one of the better covers, then by all means add it in. Richard Jackson (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Link Wray was of  Shawnee  ancestory...it should be in the article. 66.169.95.50 (talk) 06:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: He's now described as "a Shawnee rock and roll guitarist" in the first sentence. So presumably it's wrong to describe him just as an "American"? Is the prominent use of this ethnicity justified? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: According to MOS:CONTEXTBIO, the way I understand it, in the opening par of this article and the other Wray articles should say he is American (nationality), with Shawnee (ethnicity) placed in the bio section. Design (talk) 07:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That is correct, and I have changed the first sentence of the lede to read "...was an American rock and roll guitarist, songwriter, and vocalist of Shawnee ethnicity...". Carlstak (talk) 15:09, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Following up on this years-old thread, no proof has been furnished for Link Wray or his family having any Shawnee ancestry. Yuchitown (talk) 22:57, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section 'native American ancestry' 

message: Link wray popularized distorted power chord in his 1958 single Rumble.
I think he is pioneer of Hard Rock.
So i added genre "hard rock." LSM1204 (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Any such genre change or addition needs to be based on a reference from a WP:RS - not what "you think" - Arjayay (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard Rock 

message: The lead section says this: ".. his 1958 instrumental hit "Rumble" by Link Wray & His Ray Men popularized "the power chord, the major modus operandi of modern rock guitarists".
But User:Lenzwerf, in their hidden comment, makes a perfectly valid point. The AllMusic source (which should be linked to the Biography section here), by Cub Koda says this: "Quite simply, Link Wray invented the power chord, the major modus operandi of modern rock guitarists" ... and then this: "Link's follow-up to "Rumble" was the pounding, uptempo "Rawhide." The Les Paul had been swapped for a Danelectro Longhorn model (with the longest neck ever manufactured on a production line guitar), its "lipstick tube" pickups making every note of Link's power chords sound like he was strumming with a tin can lid for a pick." So I think some adjustment is needed. And why do we have this referenced detail about the power chord appearing only in the lead section? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:38, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice to pick this up, trying to figure out the polite way to contribute to this. Anyway, the power chord is just two notes. Robert Johnson used the 1 and fifth, alternated with one note higher than the fifth in 1936 (sweet home chicago) so Link Wray did not invent it. I can hear powerchords in 'Chicken run', 'Dueces Wild', 'Hang On' and some other songs but to say he uses them so differently than Bo Didley or other pioneers of Rock and Roll is one step too far for me. Even on a https://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/forum/guitar/acapella-41/1113013- people are surprised about wiki and others naming Link Wray as the power chord inventor. Lenzwerf (talk) 00:05, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking again at that Cub Koda piece, he says this: "Link Wray may never get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but his contribution to the language of rockin' guitar would still be a major one, even if he had never walked into another studio after cutting "Rumble." Quite simply, Link Wray invented the power chord..." This seems to me to be a categorical claim that the power chord was invented by Wray in that song. You may be perfectly right. If you can find a source that says Robert Johnson invented it in "Sweet Home Chicago", you need to present it here. But the article makes only the lesser claim that he "popularised" the power chord. Not sure how we accommodate your claim that "Rumble" is the wrong example. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

text: p.s. In the meantime I have copied the detail, together with the sources (and the hidden note), into the main body, as it can't just appear in the lead section alone. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead section - power chord 

message: Is there any proof that Link Wray was actually Shawnee or Native American at all? The Shawnee Tribe seem to say he isn't Shawnee. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely not a tribal member and no Shawnee ancestry either. Yuchitown (talk) 20:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: He's in the cat "American people of Shawnee descent". Looking over the article, and this, looks like we should move him to self-identified. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 19:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

text: Can you please source the Shawnee genealogists research here? I’m glad you didn’t bring up the Census records since Natives back then changed their race to escape persecution. 2600:100C:A218:92ED:43C:DD1B:7D14:DCA (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Per WP:OR and that Wikipedia prefers verifiability over truth.(WP:TRUTH). 2600:100C:A218:92ED:43C:DD1B:7D14:DCA (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Luckily, in this case what is verifiable is true. We can verify that Link Wray did indeed self-identify as having Shawnee ancestry. And that is the extent of what can be verified on that subject. Yuchitown (talk) 23:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Share the source here please. Don’t just mention it here. Source it. 2600:100C:A218:92ED:F12F:43C3:3510:AA77 (talk) 05:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Yes he did self identify as Shawnee. BUT your claim of genealogists has not been backed up with a reliable source. 2600:100C:A218:92ED:F12F:43C3:3510:AA77 (talk) 05:15, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That is original research. But the thrust of the matter is for any claim of Shawnee ancestry there would have to be citations to substantiate the claim coming from a source that did not originate from Link Wray or his immediate family. Yuchitown (talk) 00:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Probably not Shawnee