Talk:Marvin the Paranoid Android

message: ″During an apparently suicidal confrontation with a pair of trigger-happy cops″ – Marvin never confronts the cops, but he ′accidentally′ saves all the main characters from them by attempting to make small talk with their spaceship. Upon connecting to the spaceship's external data port, the spaceship immediately commits suicide. (This is what Marvin tells the others when reuniting with them.) The article's sentence seems a bit inacurrate to me, that's all, so if anyone wants to improve that sentence, here's something. 217.85.203.35 (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  suicidal confrontation 

message: Looking at my Guinness book of British hit singles, I find the Marvin by Marvin the Paranoid Andriod reached number 53 on 16 May 1981, but I can't find any details about a second single. Has anyone been able to locate this information? Mintguy 11:44 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
:"Marvin" / "Metal Man" and "Reasons to be Miserable" / "Marvin I Love You" (double B-side) according to a quick Google. I'll look into it a bit more later. I don't think the second one troubled the chart compilers at all. --rbrwr
:Here's the a.f.d-a FAQ answer on the topic... and mp3 evidence, too. --rbrwr
::Well done Rob. Nice one! Mintguy 17:07 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
:::I spotted that there was an existing article on the A-side of the first single "Marvin". I improved this by including an  and a , and then created new articles for "Metal Man", "Reasons To Be Miserable", and "Marvin I Love You". They all have music samples. I added links for all of these to this article. HairyWombat 17:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second single 

message: Would be useful.
:Love the use of the TV series Marvin instead of the movie. Not sure on the reasoning on it, as usually people use the most recent available picture, but still, screw that, he looked cooler back then.Shardok (talk) 07:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture from the TV series? 

message: I took "manically" out of "manically depressed" in order to discourage the idea the Marvin is bipolar. I know the phrase is used in Hitch-Hiker's (e.g. Scripts p. 61), but I don't think Douglas chose it particularly well. --rbrwr
:Good call!  I removed the link to manic depression because Marvin is not bipolar.  I guess I could have chosen a better adjective for "depressed" though.  The current wording looks good. —Frecklefoot 16:42 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)
::Thanks. While I'm attemtping (without any training) to apply psychiatric diagnoses to a fictional robot I've pointed out that he's not (strictly speaking) paranoid. --rbrwr
::: I dunno, seems to me that he is. He's definitely paranoid in the sense that he thinks everyone and everything in the universe hates him (even if they really don't). -- Wapcaplet 17:24 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)
::::Well, they mostly find him pretty tiresome. So I don't think it's really delusional on his part. Also, I would say he doesn't have the "excessive concern about [his] own well being" mentioned in the first sentence of Paranoia. But I'll revert it for the time being. --rbrwr
:if anyone is paranoid its dent.
:as much as i love radiohead, grrrrrrrr radiohead, i blame you
::moreover I think the books calls Marvin "manic depressed" (which would be bipolar disorder), Marvin doesn't have that either (clem 11:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: actually, marvin is called the "paranoid android" in the milliways book (the restaurant at the end of the universe) (clem 15:29, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Scroll up. You'll find we already had this discussion more than two years ago ;-) --rbrwr± 17:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: heh. I bet you will have used a timed machined to will have edited that in the past future. sorry 'bout that :-) (clem 18:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  depressed not paranoid 

message: Is Bender from Futurama not slightly inspired on MTPA? Wouter Lievens 13:03, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bender 

message: ""Paranoid Android" is the name of a song by British rock band Radiohead, possibly named after Marvin, but without any other apparent explicit reference. The line "When I am king you will be first against the wall" might be a reference to Marvin's introduction, in which the marketing department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation is described as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes"."
Surely that's stretching it a bit? I mean, "First against the wall when the revolution comes" isn't a phrase that Adams created: it's been used by many others before and after, and the phrase makes sense in the song given the context.
: I have not read or seen the HGTG , however, I'm a big radiohead fan. In paranoid android, there is a sample played during the chorus of a robotic voice saying 'I may be paranoid, but I'm not an android'. Does this help figuring out if this is a direct reference or not? Adidas 22:39, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Faithlessthewonderboy tagged this paragraph with a  on July 25, 2007. This is good as there really isn't any evidence for this relationship (other than the title), and the corresponding paragraph over on the "Paranoid Android" page has been deleted. Unless there are objections, I will delete the "Radiohead" paragraph in References in popular culture on August 25, 2007. HairyWombat 19:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I feel that the song (at least the relevant part of it) is almost certainly influenced by H2G2. But as I've never seen any proof, it should be deleted unless someone can come up with something. Faithlessthewonderboy 22:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just come to the page expecting to read about the link between Radiohead and Marvin.  Isn't the link as obvious as it needs to be? --IainMH  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.208.62 (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  First against the wall 

message: I'm finding it hard to locate in my copy of the books but didn't Marvin write a poem, the last 2 lines of it were something like:
I can see by infra-red
How I hate the night
If anyone can find this it'd be good to include it in the article. AllanHainey 15:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were "lullabies" and Marvin recites them to himself in the novel Life, the Universe, and Everything. They were also included in the third radio series. I don't have the texts with me at the moment, but that might help someone else to find them before I can.... --JohnDBuell 19:33, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chapter 31, US edition:
 Now the world has gone to bed,
 Darkness won't engulf my head,
 I can see by infrared,
 How I hate the night.
 
 Now I lay me down to sleep,
 Try to count electric sheep
 Sweet dream wishes you can keep,
 How I hate the night.
--JohnDBuell 01:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I have recently created an article, with audio sample, for the poem called Marvin's lullaby. I also added a link to it in this article. 216.123.197.25 22:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Poem

message: In the television series: My Life as a Teenage Robot, one of the main character's "sisters" (XJ-7) is amazingly like Marvin..
If a screenshot can be taken thereof, that would be rather plusgood, I should think.. 
thumb|right|240px|XJ-7 (seen right) in the episode: "This Time with Feeling"
According to the image in the article, "she" is the "sister" the most right therein. DrWho42 23:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "She" is already mentioned in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy cultural references article. --JohnDBuell 23:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  XJ-7 

message: I've got lyrics transderived from listening to the songs and thusly written down, but should I try turning them into articles with the lyrics thereon? 
Here's where I originally posted it: Marvin Sings! DrWho42 04:21, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A brief quotation of the lyrics is okay. Anything more than that is in violation of copyright. --JohnDBuell 10:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvin song lyrics 

message: I am not sure about the word literal "Marvin is paranoid in the literal sense that he deems himself more important than he truly is."
The article on paranoid does give a literal sense (outside mind) for the original παράνοια (paranoia) but I don't think this applies, if meaningful. As I am not a psychiatrist I am not sure. Is "deeming yourself more important than you are" literal paranoia? Pukkie 08:17 20 Jul 2203 (UTC)
:I think that some of the analysis of "paranoia" or the throwaway line about him being "manically depressed" has gotten out of hand. Adams wasn't a psychiatrist either, and Marvin was originally intended for one radio episode only. I've made some revisions and thrown out some of the violations of WP:OR. --JohnDBuell 13:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  paranoid in the literal sense 

message: The External links at the end of the article seem a poor selection.  Here are 
a couple which could usefully be included. I tried including the first (which 
is my page), but a bot decided it was SPAM and reverted it. 216.123.197.7 04:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since then this article has been seen by a broader range of editors and a new consensus has emerged that these links do not comply with WP:EL. TerriersFan 22:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect, I see no consensus. Nor any dialog arriving at one. Any dialog resulting in a consensus would have taken place here. HairyWombat 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These links have now been removed by four different editors and only replaced by yourself. Pending specific majority support on here, as opposed to 'support by default' that has occurred above, then that should be treated as a consensus. I would add that I see no basis on which these links meet WP:EL. TerriersFan 23:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe it could be a valuable tool to remember the robot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griflet (talk • contribs) 13:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More external links 

message: It was suggested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvin (song) that this, and four other songs, should be merged into this article. This should now be discussed and resolved as a post-AfD editorial action. I am neutral on the matter. TerriersFan 17:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The first part of the pop culture section is scheduled for deletion on August 25; see #First against the wall above. HairyWombat 21:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Comment the topic is comical but the website is not, and has rules for appropriate content and style. Totnesmartin 17:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge in of songs

message: *Strongly support - with one exception the songs are not notable enough for independent articles. Marvin (song) has a weak claim based on its (low) chart placement but it and the rest would be far better served by being merged with redirect into the article for the character. Otto4711 19:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The first part of the pop culture section is scheduled for deletion on August 25; see #First against the wall above. HairyWombat 21:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

message: #Strongly oppose. Instead, I would like to see these articles become subsiduary articles of this page using  or . This would allow the current material on this page to be trimmed and placed in a new section. Marvin's greatest hits would be an appropriately ironic sub-title, given that the subject of the page is comical. HairyWombat 21:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment the topic is comical but the website is not, and has rules for appropriate content and style. Totnesmartin 17:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose

message: Votes are discouraged - this should be a discussion. However, as it is clear that the consensus is to merge the songs I will do it. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 12:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

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message: This received play on the Dr. Demento show... AnonMoos (talk) 15:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a neat animated video for that song, done in 1996. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G6mGwHm4tg Bizzybody (talk) 09:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Marvin I Love You

message: I think the head picture should definetly be a picture of marvin from the movie - not the TV series. The marvin from the movie fitted marvins description in the book better - especially the 'brain the size of a planet'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by A person one (talk • contribs) 01:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile Picture 

message: Marvin is also the name of a desolemn pressiv butler in the Twilight Zone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Piano_in_the_House
Besides the true character of the butler isnt depressiv, he acts in this way the whole time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.129.85 (talk) 10:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Marvin as Depressiv Name

message: I removed the :Template:Essay-like banner--
:This article is written like a personal reflection or essay rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject. Please help improve it by rewriting it in an encyclopedic style. (March 2010)
IMO the article describes the character and his plot interactions accurately.
--Thnidu (talk) 17:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not overly subjective 

message: " Marvin is relegated back to a menial servant. Such is the lot of a robot."
Can someone clean this article up?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.110.146 (talk) 18:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  not quite wiki-style 

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