Talk:MythBusters (2006 season)

message: In one of the first season episodes, Adam stated that, "There is always two parts to testing a myth: replicate the myth, and duplicate the result." It seemed the Mythbusters gave up too easy on this one. I would have liked to see them bring destruction to some kind of object with a motorized osillator. Even though they didn't have to bring down the bridge, they could have settled for destroying the model of Tesla's building with Grant's device. However it's an established concept in physics, that if you match the frequency of an object, it will eventually break, or fall down. I guess that's why we don't teach kids that they can push down a telephone pole if the time it right...
: No, it is not an established concept in physics that "if you match the frequency of an object, it will eventually break, or fall down".  In fact, many many objects are designed to work for long periods of time in such a condition, like musical instruments. Spejic 16:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Resonance by itself is not awesome.  The wind was putting large amounts of energy into the bridge system.  A small input, even if it is causing resonance, won't do the same thing. (And again, this is not a place to discuss the findings.  And you should sign your edits.) Spejic 11:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tesla's Earthquake Machine 

message: During the Steam Cannon episode, they show Grant doing research for the cardboard box myth online, including a screen shot of what appears to be the Wikipedia article Calorimeter.  Although the logo wasn't shown, the spacing for the search bar was clearly visible, along with the math equations that appear in the article.  Can this be added to a trivia section, and is there someplace on Wikipedia to report this "sighting in popular culture." --Phantom784 14:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it's already on Wikipedia:Wikipedia_as_a_source_on_TV_and_radio, and is mentioned in the talk pagbe for Calorimeter.  Still could probably go as a trivia for the episode. --Phantom784 14:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a brief shot in Earthquake Machine where Jamie has some Wikipedia article up on the screen, though they don't talk about it. It comes right after they decide to build a scale model of Tesla's laboratory and Jamie is looking at a book with the computer in the background, open to Wikipedia. I'd wager they refer to Wikipedia quite a lot whether or not it makes it on the show. -Anþony 06:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steam Cannon & Wikipedia!!! 

message: Sorry guys about what I did last night, I was reading the disc. channell programme and found that the latest episode was named mega movie myths, a two hour special, I even wrote that. Anyway, I put the episode into the season 4 listing and went to bed, I woke up this morning walked over to my pc and thought... Damn! I completely forgot about the specials page, I felt like such an idiot!
Anyway, Keep up the good work on this guide people :)
--Aaron J Nicoli 00:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Movie Myths 

message: Hello, I was watching the Mythbusters episode where they debunked the pops rocks/soda myth in which eating pop rocks and drinking soda at the same time will kill you however I recently saw one of those mentos/soda eruptions on the internet and it made me wonder. Is it possible that the mentos/soda reaction could be interpreted as a mondern day version of the pop rocks/soda myth, that consuming soda and eating mentos could potenially result in a fatal reaction thus proving the myth? I believe that this idea is worthy of a possible re-visit of the myth in question, please let me know what you think. - RVDDP2501 15:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, and this is most important, humans and most mammals have ways of releasing built-up gas in their digestive system, so any gas that would build up in your stomach would be forced out of one end or the other, preventing it from expanding to the point of bursting. So, no, there's little to no chance of this being a re-visit, since it's the same principle as the pop rocks and soda, and that's already been busted.66.233.188.87 01:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Myth Re-Visit 

message: In episode 59, in the Water Safe section, the narrator's description of a thermal lance is a very close paraphrase of the first sentence of Wikipedia's own thermal lance article which has existed since at least 2004. --81.101.102.91 22:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, They didn't claim it as their original work. It's only plagiarism if you try to get people to beleive it's your original work. Besides, there's a limited number of ways you can phrase something simply and clearly. Then again maybe they did use Wikipedia as a source.(we do know that they use wikipedia) Did anyone look to see if it was credited at the end of the episode?--Marhawkman 07:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia plagiarism in episode 59? 

message: Adam states that his glider achieved a glide ratio of about 4 to 1, which is false. His calculations were 9ft of drop and 34 ft of travel, with no regard for speed. If you propelled a brick at 100 miles an hour, its going to travel a far distance before it lands on the ground, and by Adams calculations have a high glide ratio? Assuming Adam's glider was released at 20 miles/hour, which is what they were shooting for, a brick would have traveled a distance of 21.65ft. That leaves 34-22=12 feet. 12 feet of travel divided by 9 ft of drop, or a glide ratio of 1.3.Rewt241
: Strange how you have a link to the glide ratio page, yet you have not seemed to read it.  The ratio does not take into account how much better it is than a ballistic path, it is just the ratio of fall to run.  Adam was right. Spejic 09:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And this is why they have "Myths revisted" episodes. Send 'em an email about it.--Marhawkman 17:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: what you put in to the main article didn't stay becuase it was biased to your oppion, not the "facts" of the Ep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. Even I admit I have some questions about the whole thing. But it had to be the facts as stated in the show, so, it's 34 foot flight and a nose dive untill the show says otherwise.Metropod 03:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adams stated Concerete Glider Glide Ratio is an Error! (Nov 8 Episode) 

message: Anyone got more info on this currently unaired episode? http://epguides.com/Mythbusters/ includes "Season 4 (..Episode #) 80.  4-26  UNAIRED  Facts About Flatuence". tv.com's Mythbusters - Facts About Flatuence page says "Episode Number: 80" "This Episode will NOT be Aired in the US." --EarthFurst 22:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the myths aired as part of episode 48. Two others have shown up in an outtakes reel.-- Alanhwiki 06:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  include unaired season 4 episode? 

message: How DOES one contact MythBusters to challenge their conclusion on the steam cannon??? They built their steam cannon incorrectly, which is why it doesn't work... several working steam cannons have been constructed between the 1930s and the present, using materials available in ancient times (which is why they claimed the myth was busted, as I recall). 
First difference: the boiler needs to be VERY thick, to absorb as much heat as possible; the one on the show was far too thin. Second, very 'small' amounts of water are added via simple valve; this is a slow buildup of pressure, not the flash-explosion they were trying to produce in the show. Third, and this is the critical part: a "breaker bar" of wood is placed across the cannon's mouth, which holds in place a long wooden beam which travels loosely down the barrel. At the other end of this beam is the cannonball, wrapped in oiled cloth and butted tightly against a hole leading to the boiler chamber. 
The idea is to SLOWLY build pressure in the chamber, until the pressure become so intense that the breaker bar gives way, simultaneously launching the beam like a spear and the cannonball right behind it, both with devastating effect. There's actually film from the '40s of this in action, and the ball goes a lonnnng way. I've seen a modern one that works also, using a bronze pressure chamber and a small simple valve to get the same results. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.187.162.166 (talk) 21:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, this is totally the wrong place to bring this up.  This is a discussion about the article listing Mythbuster conclusions, not a discussion about them.  Second, you will hardly be the first person (or even the hundred and first) to bring up an issue like this.  Try going to the Mythbuster forum on the Discovery Network web site. Spejic 08:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steam Cannon - Conclusions are WRONG 

message: Heat detectors (Fire protection) are not Motion Sensors. --Vihljun 10:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thermal Motion Sensor 

message: There is a link to Pig called 'Human stand-in' in the section about the Exploding Lighter. I find this a strange link, as I don't see the connection between a pig and a human stand-in. Maybe a link to Guinea pig would be more appropriate, but I am not sure. Virtlink 15:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The object that was standing in for the human was an actual pig carcass. Spejic 18:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, it's something of a running joke on the show.  They often refer to pig carcasses as "human analogues", since they're often used to measure how certain events would affect a human, especially when Buster, the Simulaids, or ballistics gel would not give an accurate picture. MarsJenkar (talk) 15:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stange link to [[Pig]] in [[MythBusters (season 4)#Exploding Lighter|Exploding Lighter]] section 

message: I replaced "cartridge" with "casing". As the even the Wikipedia article on Cartridge (Firearms) shows, the cartridge is what you call the whole unfired bullet, gunpowder and all. The part that gets ejected is the casing. — NRen2k5 15:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guns fired underwater 

message: In their Exploding Pants episode, the Mythbusters try and keep the volatile ingredient secret. This, of course, is a tad naive since if their researchers could find it on the 'net, so can we. The substance is Sodium Chlorate, which can be found after googling a tad or looking at the sodium chlorate page here on the Wikipedia. Shouldn't we mention this interesting piece of information on the page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.145.112.69 (talk) 03:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, as that would be original research.--Drat (Talk) 03:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about if we list http://aghist.metapress.com/content/q3224660874x8q51/ as a source?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.145.112.69 (talk) 11:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed, sodium chlorate is already mentioned in the article.--Drat (Talk) 12:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret ingredient for Exploding Pants 

message: In the Wikipedia article it says, WRT hydrogen fuel cells:
:"The cell didn't work with the car, and while the car did start unmodified when pure hydrogen was introduced, the hydrogen was also violently ignited soon afterwards, making it an unlikely, dangerous - and expensive - alternative."
I don't understand this, it reads like they tried to put hydrogen in a normal petrol/diesel car, a car fitted with a hydrogen fuel cell ought to run on hydrogen.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.86.71 (talk) 18:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The "cell" in question was homemade, and the car was indeed a normal gasoline (petrol) car.  The "cell" used electricity to split water (as in the old science experiment), and send the hydrogen to run the engine, which didn't work because it didn't produce nearly enough. —MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs)  16:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hydrogen fuel cell 

message: I changed the test to say that gunpowder actually has lower energy density than gasoline. Like most chemical explosives, gunpowder contains oxidizer and fuel (usually saltpeter and charcoal respectively). Gasoline on the other hand is just a fuel, and when used in engines it gets the oxidizer from air. As can be seen in the article energy density, gasoline has higher energy density than any form of coal. --UltimateDestroyerOfWorlds (talk) 21:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gunpowder engine 

message: Why aren't there any source references to the season subdivisions? Where do you get the information on when each season begins? There seem to bee different information on different websites. And the official MythBusters site doesn't list seasons at all. Wouldn't it be better to just arrange the episodes under year and skip the season subdivisions if there are no secure sources?! / Dreamingtree (talk) 15:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season subdivision, reference 

message: Episode 55 – "Steam Cannon" lists "Who has the whitest teeth" as a mini myth. This wasn't shown in the episode that I saw. Was this a region-only myth or is someone confusing the episodes? TheHYPO (talk) 08:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't even a mini-myth.  It was just something the Mythbusters did out of curiosity and humor.  I propose it be removed from this article. Spejic (talk) 20:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitest Teeth? 

message: "Jess Nelson would return as the MythTern in later episodes, while Mike Bushroe would also contribute in later episodes as a researcher[citation needed]."
Obviously the citation is not being requested for Jess Nelson, as she is clearly covered in the "Additional Cast Members" section.
I'm not sure why someone thought a citation was needed for Mike Bushroe, as he is mentioned by name in the closing credits of the eipsodes he contributed to, as well as being open about his subsequent role as a show researcher on the Discovery Mythbusters Forums as well as on other sites such as the Mythbusters Fan Club.
I don't remember specifically in which episodes' credits, other than "Airplane On A Conveyor Belt", his name can be found, but I'd certainly think that the actual television credits of the actual show itself should be a reliable enough source, by Wikipedia's standards, to confirm his invovement with the show's production.
I'd think the "citation needed" can safely be removed.
--216.138.230.98 (talk) 20:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is Mike Bushroe. I am not sure what level of documentation is needed to establish a credible citation for this. 
Here is a link to a quote of an earlier post on the Myth Buster's Fan Forum in which I state that I am a researcher for the show:
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9801967776/m/67019748901?r=53419058901#53419058901
And here is my LinkedIn page which makes the same claim
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-bushroe/14/342/20    Mbushroe (talk) 14:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 46: "citation needed" 

message: The link for the cell-phones-on-aircraft-ban being lifted in Europe is broken.  Dmutters (talk) 02:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. --AussieLegend (talk) 06:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Dmutters (talk) 12:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link in cell phone/aircraft section 

message: Myth statement                                    	status	Notes
...a psionic helmet kit, ordered off the internet.	Busted	The test failed to produce any effects.  Tori wore the helmet for two tests.  The first was an attempt at a local coffee shop to give his order to the clerk without telling her, which failed (though the women behind him did receive the message he was trying to broadcast) (my emphasis).  In the second attempt, he attempted to make Jamie remove his trademark beret, with no effect, while Jamie was filming the wrap-up for Facts About Flatulence.  (Tori, in fact, is visible in the rear of the shot during that episode wearing the helmet.)
No way. That's probably vandalism. There's no way that, if the myth was 'busted,' some women actually had it work on them. Jwood (leave me a message) See what I'm up to 12:25, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The bit about the women was inserted with this edit. I'll watch the episode later to verify.--Drat (Talk) 13:14, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The two women in the cafe sitting behind Tory did claim that they received the message (happens at about 14:45), but since they weren't part of the experiment, and they might have just wanted to get on TV, their claim really can't be used in evaluating the results of the test. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I never took their claim seriously; it seemed pretty obvious they were just joking.  Given the reactions of the hosts and narrator, it's pretty clear they knew it too. —MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs)  19:20, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mind control? No way. 

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thread_title:  Colour contrast problems 

message: I watched episode 44 on youtube:  where they don't seem to show the myth of vodka as a bathroom cleaner being tested. Did I just miss it or has it been edited out or has it only been shown in some versions of the episode (as e.g. the overloading of the pressure sensor in episode 54)? --Proofreader (talk) 21:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vodka as bathroom cleaner 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:MythBusters (2003 season) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 05:01, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Quick note about bypassing a laser sensor by shining your own laser on it - Usually the lasers, or ordinary infrared LEDs, are modulated, ie switched on and off rapidly. Sometimes at a certain frequency, or sometimes in a coded pattern. So if the sensor picks up laser when it's own beam is off, it will trip. While I'm not a museum security expert, this is something anyone creating electronic devices would know. 84.68.176.232 (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lasers