Talk:Catalan orthography

message: Per an anon, the Catalan wikipedia has some information that can be translated and added to this article.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 02:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You wanna give it a shot?  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 03:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, but I really know nothing about Catalan, so it would be risky for me to do so. -Fenevad (talk) 11:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation requested

message: I was looking at this article and what is missing (for someone who doesn't already know Catalan) is a description of the contexts in which a letter with two possible sounds. For example g and c are both given two sounds, but there is nothing here to say in which contexts they have which sound.
Also, there should be separate rows in the chart for c and ç (or an explanation as to why they are one), because these are orthographically distinct (or at least I assume they aren't interchangeable, although I don't speak Catalan).
-Fenevad (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You wanna give it a shot?  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 03:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, but I really know nothing about Catalan, so it would be risky for me to do so. -Fenevad (talk) 11:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prose description of variations

message: Is <tll>, as in the name Batlle, pronounced just , as it is when borrowed into Castillian? — kwami (talk) 20:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it is a geminated .  For example, espatlla is pronounced . — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 21:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I remember, this information (along with another about pronouncing 'tl' in native words as geminated 'l') used to be part of this article, but someone has apparently removed it 89.231.123.40 (talk) 19:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  <tll> 

message: The article misses information often found in the description of alphabets of other languages: sorting order. Especially there should be information about how the mentioned diacritics are handled when sorting in catalan (acutes or graves first?) etc.
-- LinguistManiac (talk) 10:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorting 

message: What is the Valencian pronunciation of the letter-name ce trencada. The article says /ˈse trenkadə/ (same as Eastern Catalan), but I would have expected it to be /ˈse trenkada/. --ABehrens (talk) 06:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, obviously. The Eastern schwa represented by orthographical  is supposed to correspond to an open central  in Valencian (per Valencian, this can be somewhat complicated by vowel harmony, but the underlying phoneme would still be , AFAIK). Sol505000 (talk) 07:58, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of ce trencada 

message: What is so significant about these that every possible combination of consonants has to be listed? Almost all of them are entirely predictable from the letters they are made up of. Rua (mew) 20:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Then remove them. — Æµ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 03:42, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

text: — Rua (mew) 14:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

text: They are extra letter combinations and digraphs, some of them are redundant due to their obvious pronunciation, but not all (like tll in bitllet with a silent t in Valencian and a long <ll> in Catalan). Our orthographies are not as irregular as French, but there are numerous exceptions like aquest becoming aquêt, the silent letters in final clusters (especially in plural), and the different graphs for /gz/: x, xh, cz, etc. What would you keep/improve and what would you delete? — Jɑuмe (dis-me) 15:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other letter combinations