Talk:Grape juice

message: Maybe there should be some mention regarding how grape juice is a natural laxative? I didn't even realize it until I noticed a trend whenever I drank it.69.91.81.247 02:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a food intolerance; I have that reaction myself to too much grape juice; particlarly the carborated kinds (like Welchs), but other family members seem unaffected. Since just about every food or drink known to man has someone intolerant of it it's probably not something to list in the food & drink articles; it's not an allergy so it doesn't belong in that article. And currently the food intolerance article lists no examples of common food intolerances. Jon 22:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

text: For that matter, grape juice in America that isn't Welchs tastes different than Welches. Jon 22:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the confusion with peetsuh that disappears with closer inspection. We can't go around confusing people with pictures entirely of concord grapes, especially since some people seem to need the fibre that naturally goes with them, or they get diarrhea. They also come in different sizes. 216.234.170.75 (talk) 10:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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message: This wikipedia article was either copied to another wiki or from this other wiki.  Is this a copy right issue?
http://www.encyclowine.org/index.php/Grape_juice
:Don't know. Don't care. They're both wikis, probably with common authors. If you think anybody's contribution might get short shrift somehow, then get it into the end notes. On second thought, since the link does not go to an article on grape juice, it seems to be broken, or maybe that wiki is broken. 216.234.170.75 (talk) 10:52, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who copied who? 

message: This is a completely dubious inclusion in an otherwise helpful entry.  I have spent a considerable amount of time researching the origins of wine and the beverages that were available during the 1st century.  Prior to 1862, the process of pasteurization was unknown.  If such a process was common knowledge prior to 1862, one would not think that the process invented by Louis Pasteur (and which bears his name) would have been all that novel. Hence, Thomas Bramwell Welch's application of pasteurization to the juice of grapes was a new concept, which produced the first grape juice.  Before pastuerization, there was no way to stop the fermentation process.  Any grape juice in the ancient world eventually turned into wine.  And the sweeter the juice, the higher the alcohol content of the wine (any of you wine experts correct me if I am wrong in this area).  There was no such thing as ancient grape juice.  If anyone can produce a valid academic source stating that grape juice existed prior to AD 1869, please list it and I may concede the point.  Until then, I will consider this statement to completely dubious, bordering on complete intellectual dishonesty.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theologix (talk • contribs) 02:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It had a shelf life between eight hours and three days, which is practically no shelf life, so I am confirming your comments, and I might want you to make allowances. 216.234.170.75 (talk) 10:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient pasteurization? 

message: The only thing wrong with my comments in my edit history is that they do not explain why honey will not ferment, and it's because of the sheer concentration of sugar. Concentrating juice at seven to one will do the same thing. 7:1 does not need to be frozen, because anything near the consistency of syrup will not ferment. Reconstituted juice off the shelf will ferment given the right kind of yeast or sufficient exposure to air.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.170.67 (talk) 10:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fermentable Beverage 

message: This article needs to be merged with the Grape article which has a juice section also.
And where is the composition?- (actual, not just FDA categories, ie, sugars, phenols, etc).69.72.27.139 (talk) 10:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Grape 

message: As mentioned previously, it would be nice to address the actual diversity of grape juice as it manifests across a variety of cultures and markets. Also, if I recall correctly, the nomenclature for the product in certain languages can be misleading at times, such as the use of the term "grape fruit juice" in a market that doesn't carry citrus grapefruit juice.
99.145.186.17 (talk) 05:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global Grape Juice 

message: The section on Catholicism is awkwardly written.  It begins with the concept of transubstantiation which is only indirectly related. The main point should be that Catholics do not regard grape juice as the proper "matter" for the sacrament. As noted, this is because Jesus used wine and not grape juice at the Last Supper. This article is more relevant than the transubstantiation article: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05584a.htm Tdsandquist (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: actually it turns out that Catholics give priests permission in some cases to use "mustum" in certain cases, which could be regarded as grape juice (though it must be "either fresh or preserved by methods that suspend its fermentation without altering its nature (for example, freezing)"): https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/norms-for-use-of-lowgluten-bread-and-mustum-followup-2113 Tdsandquist (talk) 02:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholicism