Talk:Lord Frederick Windsor

message: Well, without saying what it is, what do you all think the probability is? If news reports are anything to go by, it could be in the public domain soon in any case.
Milvinder 21:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia shouldn't be the first to report anything.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's something we'd all like to say on here right now but I'm guessing that it could get Wikipedia into a lot of legal bother!!! 

message: It is not correct that he attended Ludgrove. He did attend a nursery school in London, then Wetherby School for pre-prep, Sunningdale for prep, Eton, and then Oxford. But the reference to his attending Ludgrove isn't correct. --Ashley Rovira 16:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a source for it.--Johnbull 20:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: *In 2002 it was reported that he had joined the board of the exclusive Soho gay members club Sweet Suite.
The link goes to an online source that I wouldn't consider reliable on its own. It just cites a Daily Mail mention. I looked it up. "Lord Louche is reined in; " ADAM HELLIKER. Mail on Sunday. London (UK): Nov 24, 2002. pg. 21
The piece is apparently a gossip item. It never quotes the subject, or anyone, else by name, and is written in the style of a gossip column. I think that this is basically unconfirmed gossip and unsuitable for an encyclopedia biography.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 20:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sweet suite 

message: *In 1917 his great grandfather, George V, revised the Royal styles and titles, due to the intense anti-German sentiment among the British people during the First World War. The King and his family were convinced to abandon all titles held under the German Crown and to change their German titles and dynastic name to anglicized versions. The House of Windsor replaced the British branch of the German House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Without these changes, Lord Frederick might have been styled HH Prince Frederick of Kent.
This material has never been sourced. If my great-grandfather had done things differently, I might be known by another name too. To take another example, if the Norman Conquest hadn't occurred then the subject might not be a prince or even a lord. I don't think this material is really necessary or helpful. If no one can find a source in the next month I'll delete it.   Will Beback  talk   11:20, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. Shall we be bold? DBD 13:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Unsourced and speculative, not sure it's worth waiting a month to delete it. Johannes Pratt (talk) 20:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "HH Prince Frederick of Kent"

message: I'm surprised to see this article is at "Lord Frederick Windsor":  the naming conventions say that courtesy titles should only be used "if the person is far better recognised with the title than without".  Given that even the Daily Mail calls him "Freddie Windsor", that doesn't seem to apply here.  84.203.40.54 (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: He is NOT a member of the British Royal Family. He is a relative of them. To be a "Royal" you must have the title HRH or be the grandchild of the Sovereign. He is not listed as a member. Look up the British Monarchy website on who is and ISN'T and remove that note from his page please. 74.69.9.224 (talk) 22:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Family 

message: How is Frederick entitled to use what I assume is a courtesy title of Lord?  He isn't the son of a Peer, royal or otherwise.  His father's title is Prince and I know of no reason why Prince Michael of Kent's two children are entitled to Lord and Lady (in the case of Frederick's sister).  Does it come from his Mother who is a Baroness? Frazzle (talk) 18:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See: Forms of address in the United Kingdom. Dr. D.E. Mophon 09:23, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I do not believe that that link gives any reason why he should be 'Lord'.  I feel it ought to be discussed in this article.  Otherwise visitors may be left (as I was) wondering why he has a lordly title.  His father is a not a duke and he is not a younger son so his title doesn't fit the norm. I suspect Letters Patent give him the right to style himself as the son of a duke but his father has no subsidiary titles to give him.  Someone back me up on this (and provide the answer!) Thanks Team! TomboPC (talk) 23:00, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

text: I have now added a section explaining why he is entitled to "Lord". TomboPC (talk) 00:32, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title Of 'Lord' 

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