Talk:Adobe

message: I couldn't find a reference for " The word adobe /əˈdoʊbiː/ has existed for around 4,000 years, with relatively little change in either pronunciation or meaning. The word can be traced from the Middle Egyptian (c. 2000 BC) word dbt "mud brick." As Middle Egyptian evolved into Late Egyptian, Demotic, and finally Coptic (c. 600 BC), τωωβε dj-b-t became tobe "[mud] brick." " Please provide references or remove text.
As referenced in the article (Oxford Dictionary). It states that the word is originally Arabic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4:80:289:6A17:29FF:FE85:4927 (talk) 05:13, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: "16 mm (1/16th of an inch)". 256mm. That's a bloody big inch :) (One of those is probably a typo).  --blades 17:26, May 8, 2004 (UTC)
:Seems to be fixed now (can't find the text that you quote). --Singkong2005 00:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unit error

message: An automated Wikipedia link suggester has some possible wiki link suggestions for the Adobe article:
* Can link the Middle East: ...e of adobe. Buildings made of sun-dried earth are common in the Middle East, North Africa, and in Spain (usually in the Mudejar sty...
* Can link North Africa: ...ings made of sun-dried earth are common in the Middle East, North Africa, and in Spain (usually in the Mudejar style), but adobe...
* Can link raw material: ...lay is used by Pueblo Indians to make the raw material for production of pottery or even to make molds for the... (link to section)
* Can link rammed earth: ...n== Because an adobe wall, either made of bricks or using a rammed earth technique, is quite massive it will hold heat or cold. That... (link to section)
Additionally, there are some other articles which may be able to linked to this one (also known as "backlinks"):
* In Example Scrabble tournament game, can backlink ADOBE: ...ediately after the game, he regretted not having played 15f ADOBE for 29 points.  He feared that it might set up a big play i...
Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these suggestions may be wrong, some may be right.
Feedback: I like it, I hate it, Please don't link to — LinkBot 11:32, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Added all the links except raw material; didn't link the backlink. JesseW 02:32, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest 4 possible wiki links and 1 possible backlink for [[Adobe]]. 

message: Is there any need for the mudbrick article? I suppose it can just redirect to this article. China Crisis 20:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NB- I was the one who added references to the Sahel and to the Great Mosque of Djenné to this article on adobe.--A12n 19:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I see someone took out the reference to the Sahel which make no sense to me at all. Consider the multiple cultural, historic, etc. ties between North Africa which is retained in the article and the Sahel which is deleted. What makes it "adobe" on one side of the Sahara and not on the other? --A12n 00:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mudbrick 

message: The text says that Adobe brickmaking was brought to the Americas in the 16th century, but I just linked to this atricle from the Mayan civilization article, in the Building materials sections...seems like a simple overlook, but could use some checking into...
Another possible error is in the Adobe bricks sections:
"If the sediment collects on the bottom, that indicates there is a high clay content and is good for adobe. If the mixture remains a liquid, then there is little clay in the soil and using it would yield weak bricks."
That's the opposite to what I think it should be but 'm no expert on this. Anyone else?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.201.132.13 (talk) 23:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  error in text 

message: a part of this is written like a very incomplete how-to. Lets do some research and make a wikibook that tells the average person how to make their own adobe bricks, after all, it should mostly be a matter of the right proportion of both materials. People could learn and maybe help themselves landscape their yard. Who is with me? Lotusduck 01:52, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikibook 

message: I'm wondering whether there should be a category called "sustainable technology" - but perhaps it would overlap too much with categories like :Category:Appropriate technology & :Category:Renewable energy. For the moment, I'll just use :Category:Appropriate technology (which is a subcategory of :Category:Development and :Category:Sustainability). 
In the cases of  Rammed earth, Adobe & Dutch brick, I think they reasonably belong in :Category:Appropriate technology. At the moment, though, the Appropriate technology aspect of these technologies is not developed in the articles. Anyway, feel free to make a different edit or suggestion. 
btw, Mudbrick needs either a lot of work, or to be merged with the Adobe article. --Singkong2005 02:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories? 

message: This article and the mudbrick article imply that they are the same thing. I'm not sure that this is true - someone from a permaculture garden told me that adobe is built up from mud and then allowed to dry, whereas mudbricks are made into bricks and then dried. However, the articles seem to suggest otherwise, and so I've put the merge tags up so that we can discuss and resolve the issue. --Singkong2005 05:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where exactly? This sounds interesting enough to merit an article. Re the topic of merging the articles, maybe what we are talking about is 2 kinds of "mud bricks" - one molded (merge that and adobe) and the other cut, per what you describe. The main problem here seems to be names (see also my remarks above); on another level there might be a kind of strategy for the articles on building with earth that would have a summary page (with definitions of categories and links to the main articles). --A12n 00:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested merge  

message: This article us coming up under a Chemistry Link. Don't think this has much to do with chemistry in the classic sense.
:Closest I could see would be soil composition, but you are right that a link to chemistry seems a little removed (though I wonder if anyone has looked at soil pH and adobe/mudbrick quality; most soils in arid/semi-arid areas tend to be alkaline I believe). I still need to find time to deal with this article and mudbrick and in that context would discuss soils as the material but not chemistry per se. --A12n 18:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category 

message: I'm reading a book entitled Native North American Art by Berlo and Philips, where it is written, "Anasazi construction techniques at Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde favoured the use of stone blocks.  In the last few centuries, however, most Pueblo architecture has used adobe bricks as building blocks. Made in wooden moulds, by hand, by many members of the community, adobe block construction was an innovation introduced by the Spanish" (p. 49). 
If Anasazi culture had extensive trade and cultural exchange with the Mimbres Mogollon culture, which extended into southern Mexico, then how is the following statement from the Wiki article true?  "[A]dobe had been in use by indigenous peoples of the Americas in the Southwestern United States, Mesoamerica, and the Andean region of South America for several thousand years, although often substantial amounts of stone are used in the walls of Pueblo buildings." Voxmea 00:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: The Moors introduced adobe construction to Spain and then the Spaniards brought it to their New World colonies.  Prior to Spanish settlement of current New Mexico the indigenous people used puddled mud construction by stacking damp earth to form walls without making bricks first.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.150.103 (talk) 00:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adobe in Spain and New Spain 

message: I added the Great Mosque of Djenné as an example building, thinking that banco is a type of adobe. Since it is made by fermenting rice husks with mud, I believe it to be adobe.
KVDP (talk) 12:13, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Banco as type of adobe ?

message: I removed this GF addition because - to my eye - it did not look like an example of adobe so much as stucco over brick and wood, which were both visible in the photograph.  But I was mistaken, as confirmed by the photo's creator.  I do however think that the photo is better as an example of the style rather than as an exemplar, and have therefore moved it to the gallery, down from the prior position at the top.  Comments welcome.  Thanks.  JohnInDC (talk) 13:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The home, that you can see was built of Adobe to the right, was later added on to with a wood structure. The Adobe bricks are seen clearly, on the right while the regular bricks were used to create a fireplace. You do see what looks to be stucco over brick, but Adobe is weathering and eroding away. It looks fine where it is. Cheers! talk→ WPPilot   20:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Middle America" photo 

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message: Great article on the Adobe being used as a construction medium.But it can also be used as a ARTISTIC modeling scullpture medium too! Thanks!Eddson storms (talk) 00:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Article! Perhaps a mention that ADOBE can be used as a ART medium too? 

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