Talk:Contemporary Jewish religious music

message: The following lines: "Jewish boys choirs became popular in 1970s. Among the most notable of these groups are Pirchei London, the Toronto Boys Choir and the Yeshiva Boys Choir."
It seems to me that it implies that these groups have been around since the 1970's. If it is just my misunderstanding, then please let me know. Otherwise I will change it in a week. Leppi (talk) 08:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewording 

message: I'd like to extend a thank you to Jbreitzer for rewriting this article and giving it a structure that can teach people something.  My only thought is that the Orthodox music figures need a few more sources and fleshing out of their style.  Does anyone have sources clearly describing the "yeshivish" styles of music?  Joe407 (talk) 04:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article re-write

message: Rather than begin a massive edit war, I would like us to try and set guidelines for the "Important Figures" section.  If everyone adds who they think is important, we wil end up with a who's who of musicians.  I've seen this problem in other articles with lists of notable alumni and such.
I would like to hear votes either for removing this section or for guidelines for inclusion.  Thanks, Joe407 (talk) 17:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replied to Joe on his talk page. I don't think a vote is relevant, there are clear guidelines for referencing and WP:notability. Jimfbleak -  talk to me? 17:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, should this article be moved to Contemporary Jewish religious music in North America -  it doesn't seem to mention anywhere else much? Jimfbleak -  talk to me? 17:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding North America, the artists mentioned here are not limited by geography but rather by audience.  The largest group of Reform Jews is in the USA.  Many of the references in the article are about the Reform Jewish music world.  The Orthodox Jewish world has a large camp in the USA and a large camp in Israel.  The article at the moment is biased toward the Reform and Conservative music world.  Once we can balance the article from that perspective, the geopolitical bias should correct itself. Joe407 (talk) 20:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Anne, You are quite correct.  The challange with citations is that on this topic not much has been written. The subject covers the past 50 years and hasn't gotten academic treatment. I'm wary of chopping huge chunks from the current text because my own (extensive) knowledge of the topic says that a good amount of the OR is correct.  :(  If you can hunt down (even a few) sources about the musical style it would be great.  Source what ever you can and add whatever you can.  As the sourced stuff grows we'll be able to chop the OR. Joe407 (talk) 06:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important figures 

message: Should there be a section here on the recent backlash of the Haredi community against "outside" influence on traditional Jewish music?  Matzav article and BBC article. Joe407 (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  contravercy section 

message: Howdy,
Artists listed here should be a sample of representative artists for a genera, not a WP:LINKSPAM.  As such, 
Other performers in the reform music movement include David Appelman, Merri Lovinger Arian, Ilana Axel, Achi Ben Shalom, David Berger, Stacy Beyer, Theodore Bikel, Raffi Bilek, Cantor Rosalie Boxt, Amy Bug, Rick Calvert, Michelle Citrin, Susan Colin, Karen Daniel, Arnie Davidson, Andrew Denin, Batya Diamond, Cantor Lisa Doob, Cantor Ellen Dreskin, Steve Dropkin, Marge Eiseman, Leah Fine, Jules Frankel, Dan Freedlander, Amy Fried, Debbie Friedman, Tracy Friend, Cantor Gaston, Judy Caplan Ginsburgh, Sam Glaser, Kathy Gohr, Rabbi Shefa Gold, Beth Greenapple, Beth Hamon, Robyn Helzner, Sue Horowitz, Elana Jagoda, Dan Jurkowitz, Roy Kamin, Rabbi Larry Karol, Rabbi Neal Katz, Noam Katz, Steve Klaper, Jeff Klepper, Shira Kline, Janine Kobrinsky, Eric Komar, Scott Leader, Cantor Allen Leider, Carol Boyd Leon, Ira Levin, Ross M. Levy, Gordon Lustig, Rick Lupert, Marvelous Toy aka Marc Rossio, Steve Meltzer, Merkavah, Cindy Michelassi, Milot Ha'Nefesh, Doug Mishkin, Chuck Mitchell, Cantor Alberto Mizrahi, Jill Moskowitz, Greg Siegle and Julie Newman, Michael Hunter Ochs, Devora Olitzky, Janet Pape, Rahel, Jay Rapoport and Dangerous Kid, Fred Ross-Perry, Sababa, Sally and the Daffodils, Linda Salvay, Samaritan Singers Ensembles, Steve Schuster, Rebecca Schwartz, Ros Schwartz, Robin Selinger, Elaine Serling, Susan Shane-Linder, Shir Harmony, Shirona, Shir Synergy, Judith Silver, Eric Sirota, Donna Spencer, Ross Wolman and Natalie Young..
 
is out of line.  For now I'm pulling it from the article and leaving it here.  Can we come up with a few representative artists to put here?  Thanks, Joe407 (talk) 04:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Rwh1230,  If you feel that the artists you mention are representative and should be in the article than by all means put them in.  If you have a source for their status as such - even better!!  Thanks for the help.  Joe407 (talk) 03:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

text: That's excellent!  You give a sampeling of notable artists and demonstrate why they are notable.  AND you have a reference!  Well done.  I would not include external links (as per WP:EL)to web pages but if any of them have WP articles then their names should be wiki-linked to that.  Joe407 (talk) 04:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reform and conservative artists 

message: Many of the composers here are notable but don't have WP articles. e.g. anybody have definitive info on David Burger? 
-- Vonfraginoff (talk) 09:29, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for new articles 

message: There was a way too extensive list removed. I'm wondering if there is at least a proper way to preserve it elsewhere.
This is the former list (I alphabetized it.):
Some well-known Orthodox contemporary Jewish composers include: Abie Rotenberg, Avraham Rosenblum, Ben Zion Shenker, Boruch Chait, Chaim Banet, Hertzel Schechter, Itzy Weinberger, Itzy Weisberg, Martin Davidson, Mona Rosenblum, Mordechai Ben David, Moshe Goldman, Moshe Laufer, Shavy Weinstock, Shaya Perl, Sheya Mendlowitz, Shlomo Carlebach, Shmuel Brazil, Suki Berry, Tanchum Portnoy, Yerachmiel Begun, Yigal Calek, Yona Weinreb, Yossi Green, Zelig Lider.
Well-known arrangers of this type of music are: Avremi G, Daniel Freiberg, Eli Laufer, Eli Leshinsky, Hershel Lebovits, Josh Goldberg, Larry Hochman, Leib Yaakov Rigler, Martin Moskowitz, Marty Lewinter, Mona Rosenblum, Moshe Laufer, Nachman Klein, Nanci Brandess, Ruvi Banet, Steve Bill, Suki Berry (Suki & Ding), Vladimir Grinberg, Yaron Gershovsky, Yisroel Lamm (the Neginah Orchestra), Yitzy Berry & Eli Klein, Yochi Briskman.
Popular artists include: Ali Scharf, Ari Klein, Asher Scharf, Avner Levy, Avraham Fried, Avrumi Weissberger, Ben Zion Miller, Ben Zion Miller, Ben Zion Shenker, Benny Friedman, Beri Weber, David Nulman, David Werdyger, Dedi Graucher, Dov Levine, Dov Shurin, Gadi [Leor] Bodinger, Gershon Veroba, Gideon Levine, Jonathan Rimberg, Kuppy Elbogen, Laibele Haschel, Lenny Solomon, Lipa Schmeltzer, Meir Sherman, Mendy Wald, Mendy Werdyger, Michoel Schnitzler, Michoel Streicher, Mordechai Ben David, Mordechai Shapiro, Motty Steinmetz, Rivie Schwebel, Sandy Shmuely, Shelly Lang, Sherwood Goffin, Shloime Dachs, Shlomo Simcha, Shmilu Rosenberg, Shmueli Ungar, Shulem & Yanky Lemmer, Simcha Leiner, Sruly Williger, Yaakov Shwekey, Yeedle Werdyger, Yonasan Schwartz, Yonasan Weiss, Yossi Sonnenblick, Zisha Schmeltzer, Zohar.
Noted musicians that played consistently for many years under the directions of the above arrangers include: Arkady Koffman, Avi Piamenta, Bentzy Gafni, Bobby Shenkin, Buddy Williams, Carmine D'Amico, Dave Katzenberg, Eitan Kantor, Eli Magen, George Wozniack, George Zorko, Harry Max, Ira Silber, Jim Hynes, Joel Kokel, Josh Goldberg, Kenny Gross, Larry Karp, Lawrence Feldman, Lenny Solomon, Leo Ursini, Marty Laskin, Marty Lewinter, Matt Hill, Matt Miller, Michael Sojcher, Mickey Lane, Mike Hall, Mike Spengler, Misha Gutenberg, Mona Rosenblum, Moshe Laufer, Mutty Parnes, Nobert Goldberg, Pepo Levy, Peter Philips, Richard Hendrickson, Rick Cutler, Rocky Zweig, Sam Klaver, Sergei, Shelly Gordon, Shelly Lang, Shmuel Wasserman, Stanley Miller, Steve Bill, Suki Berry, Ted Braingen, Tom Malone, Vladimir Chizik, Vladimir Grinberg, Willy Kaplan, Yaron Gershovsky, Yehuda Spinner, Yisroel Lamm, Yochi Briskman, Yossi Piamenta, Yossi Rosenberg, Zal Schreiber. BangKettle (talk) 04:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of many artists