Talk:Halo 2/Archive 3

message: ::I removed the last reference.  Asking how to violate copyrights on wikipedia is an INSANELY LARGE nono.  Answering that question is an even bigger one.  Also as to the fact that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE I am striking it all.  Please keep talk pages ARTICLE RELATED.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 05:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  hAl0 2 Soundtrack 

message: The Multiplayer section mentions bridging as a form of cheating: "..it is becoming increasingly common to manipulate the system to forcibly obtain host by a method termed 'bridging'."  Is bridging something specific to Halo 2 Multiplayer?  If so, it should be embellished upon (perhaps in a new subsection of Multiplayer called "Cheating" or "Bannable Offenses."  If bridging is a technique common to other online gaming, the term should be linked to a page describing it.  I don't know what the terms means, or I'd do it myself.
The term is misnamed from the fact that in order to actually 'bridge', it requires the user to run their xbox through a PC and set up internet connection sharing, or a network bridge, and limit the connections using a firewall. Unfortunately, despite the term being named inaccurately, it seems to have caught on within the Halo community.
As for it being a common technique ... I don't think it happens in other online games, since most online games do not select the host at random (as Halo 2 does), prefering instead to use server listings. Consequentally, there is no way to manipulate the networking to make someone host, as this is fixed.
I also like the idea of creating a few multiplayer subsections, to make the layout seem more organised.
--—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.59.144 (talk • contribs) 
:Really, there would just need to be a page for "bridging" (if there isn't one already?), and that's what someone can create if they want. I don't know enough to make a good page or I'd do it myself And yes, it's pretty isolated because of the way in which Halo2 does its matchmaking. It's not like network control doesn't happen in other games, it's that it usually doesn't happen this way. gspawn 11:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bridging is not the coolest thing about H2. It actually what is killing H2. Bridging is cheating. I sold my XBox last week (to buy a 360) but before doing so i decided to join a group of bridgers to see how bridging affect the game. I always suspected bridging to be the main reason why there's more lags since last fall when playing H2 over XBox Live. By joining this group of bridgers i found that i was right. Basically one player bridge to host to another player (it takes aroung 15-20 minutes to find a team slayer game while forcing host since most team slayer groups now bridge, it takes less time to find a big team game). And this other player can use his PC to regulate his bandwidth so other players in the game will lag enough to give the host an advantage (so he can steal the flag, plant the bomb or gets 20 kills easily) but not enough to be suspected of cheating. We won 19 games out of 20 even if we actually had a very average team. Not every bridgers will us his PC to make others lag. But even if you only force host you are actually cheating. You prevent the game and Xbox Live from chosing the best host in the game. Chances are the guy you force host to is not the best host for this game. I have a good 5000/1000 internet connection. I used to host often while playing Halo 2 because my connection is enough good to be smooth with 8 players only. I can join 32 players BF 2 servers on PC easily. Yet since last fall i rarely host when playing Halo 2 and often the game lags even if there's only 8 players in the game. Team Slayer in now unplayable. I would say 25 to 33% of the games lag so much it gives the host team a big advantage. --LaP 18:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bridging

message: and that is scored more then any hollywood film ever on it's opening day???
:I thought that was covered? *double-take* gspawn 12:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So why are we not talking about the HUGE sales this game had? 

message: It needs members.--Zxcvbnm 14:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhhh... link? lollerskates. gspawn 18:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:WikiProject Halo. — TKD::Talk 20:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this information needs to be posted at the top of every halo page currently listed in the list of wikipedia articles on halo on the project pages.  I am happy to do so if necessary. -007bond 23:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject Halo is formed! 

message: Attempted some cleanup of the spoilers section, including deleting doubled bits, rewording for brevity when possible, etc. Not too much improvement, but a start. Suggestions? gspawn 18:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story cleanup 

message: The version section needs deleted, and at most left as a one-sentence mention elsewhere (game is at 1.1). The "lower-right hand shows" line screams unencyclopedic. Seems like someone is actively editing now, so I'll just say a simple fix can be seen on most other PC games (a la Diablo 2) where version is a part of the game's infobox. Gspawn 02:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done'd. Gspawn 12:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version deletion 

message: What gives? I've never seen mythic mode. Do you have to beat the game in Legendary? I couldn't beat the game in harder than Normal, which would explain it.
: See Halo 2 Skulls.  You have to find one of the secret skulls, which only appears in legendary mode. Ace of Sevens 06:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mythic Mode

message: Hey, can somebody who owns (or is intimately familiar with) Halo 2 add the chapter titles into the article, like in the Halo: Combat Evolved article? It would be much appreciated.--67.172.204.135 22:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I never f***d it, but I have played it. Kind of a pun there. Sorry. Doing it now. Gspawn 22:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Minor thing, this section was formatted as a sub-header accidentally by creator. Fixd.Gspawn 15:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chapters

message: Can somebody please add a more in-depth section about the skulls that can be found? As it is, there is only mention of the Mythic skull, and currently I can't tell if it just makes the game harder, or if it unlocks a completely new difficulty mode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.172.204.135 (talk • contribs) .
Yeah, Wikipedia is not a place to find this kind of thing.  Refer to a site like Gamefaqs for that info.--KrossTalk 01:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Anyone involved with the Wikiproject wanna address this? I'm not terribly familiar with the skulls myself...172.129.79.43 20:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Skulls

message: I tried to add Halo 2 to the Electronic sports games category but, it was removed. Halo 2 is an e-sport game because there are professional Halo 2 teams and Halo 2 tournaments. The biggest tournaments held by MLG. --Credema 17:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sure the one who removed it did because he thought you classified the game as a sport game. -- ReyBrujo 17:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, my mistake.  That category name, Electronic sports games, is somewhat misleading, but I apologize for not checking exactly what it was first.  Obviously, Halo 2 is played professionally.  I have reverted. --Satori Son 18:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, the category is incredibly misleading and needs revised. Halo is not a game in the Sports genre, so it should not be classified as a Sports game. Now, if the category were revised to read "Games in Electronic Sports" or... something. I will redo the delete because I don't think any "Average Joe" visiting the site would ever read "Electronic Sports Game" and think what's intended. Once the categorization gets a fix, it can be redone. Along with this, I've started a discussion on that category's Discussion on fixing this problem. Solve the problem first, add back after. In my opinion, anyway. 68.255.77.106 14:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Should be in the Electronic sports games category

message: It appears that the same information is located both here and here.  Is it necessary to have the same information appear twice in the article?  --Brent Butler 19:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplicated information on the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack

message: Multiplayer / Xbox Live is a huge part of Halo... I think we should have a list of the maps in the game, and possibly even entire pages on each map. I would be glad to help in any way! I am new to Wikipedia, but I am an avid Halo fan and I can learn fast. :)
[Edited for typos]
GAMER4EVER 18:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hate to break it to you, but that list used to exist, and was deleted by consensus. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of multiplayer maps in Halo 2. — TKD::Talk 19:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer Map List