Talk:Albedo (Xenosaga)

message: Okay, I always thought that the line "Well, there you have it.  Good news, huh?  Partner." at the end of EpII was spoken by Albedo, but a user edited the article claiming that Virgil said it.  I thought the line sounded like Albedo, and I remember hearing people saying that the White Testament's voice sounded like Albedo.  How would people know that if he never spoke?~~Cyfin 23:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind.  I edited the article.  I decided to just exclude the whole "partner" line altogether.  The user did add helpful info though, the "weaver of the eternal circle of Zarathustra".  I kept that in there.~~Cyfin 23:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Partner" 

message: I believe that some of the major antagonists do deserve their own article (probably some time from now, once the list prose is polished and fixed in some spots), but there is also the janitorial matter of fixing links and merging the list entry with this entry to create encyclopedic information. If this is making sense, we should hold a discussion on this. Deckiller 04:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I only made an article on Albedo because I thought he was a very well-developed character, and deserved his own article.  Krelian, Miang, and Ramsus of Xenogears have their own articles, so I felt Albedo deserved one.  Cyfin 04:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are most likely right. Entries on, say, Wilhelm, Albedo, and even the testaments have enough information to warrent their own article, though I feel that it is important to wait until after the third (and supposedly final) episode is complete, so we have a sense of conclusion (and no speculation/loose ends) before creating the articles. There's no harm in starting this one now though, because we can place a "main article" notice in the list entry for Albedo. Deckiller 04:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That thought had actually come to my mind, but I figured, Albedo died at the end of episode II.  There's always a slight CHANCE that he's NOT the White Testament.  If he really isn't, then I have all of his appearances covered.  I agree Wilhelm and the Testaments shouldn't have an article yet, but only because we haven't seen them enough times to even get a semi-conclusion of what happens to them.  Cyfin 04:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If Albedo is to have his own article, it should be at Albedo (Xenosaga), where it was before it was merged into List of antagonists in Xenosaga.  ⇒  JarlaxleArtemis 04:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point; that way, if there are changes in naming in the future, no moves have to be made. Deckiller 05:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds good.  Cyfin 05:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article creation 

message: This article is a good summary of Albedo's actions throughout the different pieces of the series, but it lacks a lot of other information on the character. Should it be reconciled with the set-up for other character pages in the series? I'm looking at Jr. and Shion's profiles especially. I don't want to step on Cyfin's toes here, since he's done a great job of summarizing things, but I am considering editting it to reconcile it with the way the other profiles are set up. Coronaviridae 20:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind either way, although I would really like it if character data is included. — Deckiller 20:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do. I'm not quite sure where to start, but I'll get on it ASAP. Coronaviridae 03:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking of doing the same thing myself.  Feel free to add it, I don't mind.  Cyfin 10:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality? 

message: It might be of interest when mentionning the origins of the name, to note that a character named Albedo appears in the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. He is known as "Counsellor Albedo", being an artificial intelligence sent by the technoCenter (the group of ultra-intelligent AIs that parted with humanity centuries before the books), and personnifies himself as a man with silvery-white hair, perfectly trimmed hands and hair, grey suit, and perfectly controlled behavior. I think this is a bit too much to be just a coincidence, and should be mentioned. I'm not sure which one was first, but that one should be mentioned as influence of the other.
::: it is not the only link between Xenosaga and Hyperion (hyperions ends, like xenosaga ii, by the murder of the pope of a revived christian religion, and involves a female half human half android messianic figure. Does someone have any info on inspiration by the xenosaga authors drawn from these books?
:::::the end of xenosaga iii is also a lot like the end of the fall of hyperion
::::::That's really interesting. And I'm pretty sure the Hyperion cantos predate Xenosaga considerably; albeit you may need a stronger link than "these two characters are named similarly" to point definitively at influence. It could just be parallel thinking (there's a lot that's similar between Xenosaga and the Coheed & Cambria Amory Wars opus, but I'm pretty sure that's not a sign of influence so much as coincidence). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.25.216.194 (talk) 05:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Albedo (Hyperion Cantos)

message: Removed the link to the fictional albinos category. Albedo really isn't albino so much as exotically colored. Someone may want to add a link to the fictional twins category (which I'm pretty sure exists; I've seen it), however. Coronaviridae 05:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Albinism

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