Talk:Altalena Affair

message: One sided, pro-Irgun account. Needs to be rewritten to take out POV. Sonofzion 01:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You have to make specific suggestions for change that are actionable within the policies for the tag to be used correctly. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

text: there are more sources, including Ben Gurion's diary. in the article itself it's all mentioned. Simply the book was also mentioned in the end. I'm removing the NPOV tag since you didn't seem to move forward with specific WP:RS to contradict something. It's actually pretty balanced as one can see in the aftermath section with mapai opinions stated first. Amoruso 07:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The Socialists led by Ben-Gurion and the Nationalists led by Begin where in competition for control of Israel.  By sinking the ship, Ben-Gurion assured his success at the risk of losing to the Arabs.  We cannot know what  Begin would have done if he gained the upper hand , but I do not recall that Irgun ever killed Hagana members.  Saltysailor (talk) 14:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV dispute

message: In case anyone cares, "Altalena" is "Swing" in italian, as in that thing where children play.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.178.66.170 (talk) 20:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Altalena 

message: I have added the  to the summary of casualties because I have come across a wildly different total: Benjamin Netanyahu (A place among the nations - Israel and the world page 444) has "eighty-two members of the Irgun were killed". Padres Hana (talk) 12:42, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Netanyahu is confused, unless you are misreading.  82 is a common figure for the number of people killed in the King David Hotel bombing.  As for the Altalena: Morris, 1948, p272: "Altogether eighteen mean died in the clashes, most of them IZL".  Katz, Days of FIre (an Irgun memoir), p247: 16 Irgun, 2 Hagana.  Perliger, Jewish Terrorism in Israel, p27: 16 Irgun and 2 Hagana. I did see the number of Hagana dead given as 3 in one place, maybe someone died later on. Zerotalk 13:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties 

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Aftermath: The Altalena was eventually found sitting on the seabed several kilometers off the coast of Rishon LeZion at a depth of about 300 meters 
Trivia: For years after the sinking of the ship, courageous children used to swim towards it, climb aboard and take pieces of ammunition from it home Yonian (talk) 05:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The ship was close to shore for about a year before it was towed out and sunk. So children may have swum to it then, but "for years" would be wrong. I deleted this as it is confusing, poorly sourced, and trivia. There is another problem: the article says that the wreck was located in 2012. However, in fact it had not yet been positively identified by 2018. Probably the 2012 event was just a remote detection of a wreck hypothesised to be the Altalena but not identified properly by close-up inspection. This all needs clearing up with a better source. Zerotalk 03:54, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath section contradicts Trivia section