Talk:Egoism

message: Nb, older discussions from Talk:Egoism (disambiguation) can be found at talk:Egoism/archive 1. older ≠ wiser 12:55, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older discussion 

message: I did a significant reworking of the article. It was a confusing mess that contained profound misunderstandings. The different meanings of the term were not differentiated in the text and one use would be melded with another use in the same sentence. If egoism is going to be talked about it needs to be clear whether you're talking about ethical egoism, psychological egoism, or the colloquial use (egotism). Also, individualism was being confused with libertarianism. Libertarianism is a form of individualism, but not all individualism is libertarianism. It still needs more work though. For example this sentence; "In direct opposition to egoism, Christianity places its golden rule to do unto others as you would have them do unto you." To the contrary, that's an appeal to self-interest. "Do good for others regardless of the effect is has on you" would be in opposition to egoism.  RJII 06:55, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: reworked article

message: i think the article should be deleted (redirected to Egoism (disambiguation)), an the latter part should be merged with Ethical egoism --Unkn0wn 07:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: deletion, partial merging

message: These objects of consciousness are not identical. There is no difference between egoism and individualism in the philosophy of Objectivism, which seems to be the only one that purposely differentiates the subjects. See my user page for the Logic, and for a few valuable external reference links. The summation of the logic is that egotism can be either the sub-altern or the contradictory of egoism. Egotists do not always "walk over graves" to get what they want, and egoists never do. CurtisEdward 14:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egoism v. egotism 

message: It's not clear to me why the article on Egoism should include a See Also referring to Libertarianism.  Can someone explain?  
If not, I suggest the removal of that reference. 
Usuallylogical (talk) 21:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Libertarianism? 

message: Per instructions on Help:Disambiguation, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages, Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Disambiguation dos and don'ts. Star767 (talk) 20:48, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up 

message: As posted above on this talk page, I worked hard to follow the practices of Wikipedia:Disambiguation as well as Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages, and Wikipedia:Disambiguation dos and don'ts. There are guidelines on how to format disambiguation pages, and I studied them carefully and followed them. Please do not revert. Star767 (talk) 01:31, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can see you removed a lot of material that was helpful to any reader.   I'm not at all sure,I don't think you followed the guidelines you mentioned.  Maybe instead of just asserting your position you could explain why those deletions conform with the stated policies? ----Snowded TALK 02:33, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "I'm not at all sure you followed the guidelines" is not a reason to revert. Perhaps you could bestir yourself to actually become familiar with the disambig guidelines before you revert the hard work of others. Disambig pages are not meant to be a directory or an index. There is a specific format they are to follow. Star767 (talk) 03:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a change as you obviously are not familiar with a common English phrase.   "I am not at all sure" is very different from "I am not sure".  I have amended the text to make the meaning clear ----Snowded TALK 03:20, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop reverting me Snowdad, just because I was targeted  as "on a mission" on the Philosophy Project page in a post that told others to follow me around  

message: Leo Strauss saw himself as a scholar, and has inspired scholarship. Some of his students however embraced some form of constitutionalism, or communitarianism, or some kind of egocentric embrace of liberal democratic ideals (kind of like Richard Rorty). In his own writings Strauss lost interest in Nietzsche starting when he is 30, though the problem of the death of god remained pivotal to his thought. but the question was how can a liberal democracy survive the death of God, not individuals. libertarianism is perversion to the republican spirit, stinking of decadence. this doesn't mean that Leo Strauss thinks Machiavellian republicanism is good or great, in fact the opposite. as he seems to resent Machiavelli's misreading of the classical political theory tradition. It was Machiavelli who disavowed us of transcendental politics. politics based on higher aspirations. We can not go back to pre modern thought. we know too much. He lived thru the Weimar republic in Germany and loathed how weak and effeminate it was, and crumbled to Nazi power. he worried this can happen anywhere. so that explains the conservativeness. and his turn to great figures and greatness, he gets from alfarabi and Maimonides. but for west coast straussians that's embodied in Tocqueville, and for east coast straussians that would be embodied in Nietzsche's later writing. but is the point egoism, or to generate vibrant liberal democracy, that can renew itself and avoid decay. blending classical and modern thought together.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riskshelm (talk • contribs) 15:31, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  can someone explain below why Leo Strauss should be on this page - I think the mention of him here is weak, but im not sure 

message: English please 112.198.68.55 (talk) 08:51, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egoism 

message: This is an inaccurate or incomplete etymology of the word. I get it that from Latin ego you take the ism from French, but when you want to be called scientific encyclopedia, you need to mention the origin of the word. That is Greek. In Greek ego means I since ancient times. Latin took it from the Greek and then it passed to the modern European languages. Therefore, except if you want to mislead and conceal the history, the word egoism is not derived from French and Latin only... 2A02:587:812F:D00:8553:2F93:D6BD:2D07 (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology correction