Talk:Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet (United Kingdom)

message: Here is the latest info - can someone please Wikify it?
Conservative Party Leader, Michael Howard has today announced his new Shadow Cabinet.  It is as follows:
HER MAJESTY’S OFFICIAL OPPOSITION
SHADOW CABINET
Leader of the Opposition                              Rt. Hon. Michael Howard QC MP
Deputy Leader and Shadow Secretary  of State for Defence                                     Rt. Hon. Michael Ancram MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Education
& Skills                                                        David Cameron MP
Shadow Home Secretary                              Rt. Hon. David Davis MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport      Alan Duncan MP
Shadow Foreign Secretary                           Dr. Liam Fox MP
Shadow Leader of the House 
of Commons                                                Chris Grayling MP
Shadow Chief Secretary to the
Treasury                                                      Philip Hammond MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Constitutional
Affairs                                                          Oliver Heald MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Health            Andrew Lansley MP 
Shadow Secretary of State for Environment,
Food & Rural Affairs                                   Rt. Hon. Oliver Letwin MP
Shadow Secretary of State for 
Northern Ireland                                          David Lidington MP 
Chief Whip                                                  Rt. Hon David Maclean MP
Chairman of the Conservative Party              Rt. Hon. Francis Maude MP
Shadow Secretary of State for the Family
and for Culture, Media & Sport                    Rt. Hon. Theresa May MP
Shadow Secretary of State for 
International Development                            Andrew Mitchell MP
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer            George Osborne MP
Shadow Secretary of State for 
Deregulation                                       Rt. Hon. John Redwood MP
Shadow Secretary of State for 
Work & Pensions                                        Rt. Hon. Malcolm Rifkind MP
Shadow Secretary of State for Local  
& Devolved Government Affairs                   Caroline Spelman MP
Leader of Opposition in the House
of Lords                                                      Rt. Hon. Lord Strathclyde 
Shadow Secretary of State for 
Productivity, Energy & Industry                    David Willetts MP
Gabriel Rozenberg 16:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Shadow Cabinet Line-up, May 10 2005

message: An edit of this page by me was reverted recently. I wonder if somebody could tell me why. Needless to say, I only made the edit because I thought that it was an improvement. I can imagine that I made a mistake, but I haven't spotted it yet. Tim Ivorson 13:19, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: Why is Michael Ancram not called Michael Ancram here? He is widely known as Michael Ancram and the Wikipedia article about him has that name. Tim Ivorson 14:31, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but we should at least note that he possesses the title, even if he doesn't use it and is not, technically, a peer due to the Lords Act '99. Wally 18:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course he's a peer. Proteus (Talk) 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Michael Ancram

message: The Vice-Chairman (Candidates) is listed as Baroness Morris of Bolton OBE. I cannot find any record of such a baroness (or indeed a baron).
Mtiedemann 00:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Patricia Morris, OBE, was created Baroness Morris of Bolton, of Bolton in the County of Greater Manchester, on the afternoon of 9 June 2004. Proteus (Talk) 16:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baroness Morris of Bolton 

message: Include?
Shadow Olympics minister: Hugh Robertson
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6453575.stm
Kahar5 17:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include Shadow Olympics Minister? 

message: When will David Cameron be expected to fill the post of Shadow Energy and Climate Change Secretary seeing as Brown has now created one? --PoliceChief (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Shadow Cabinet does not always mirror the Cabinet exactly, as can be seen in 2003 with Tim Yeo covering Health and Education to shadow John Reid (Health) and Charles Clarke (Education). Theoretically the Shadow Cabinet does not need a reshuffle, but political commentators have speculated that one is likely in the next few weeks. Road Wizard (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New cabinet post of 'Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change' 

message: Not sure it's really appropriate to say the Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet is the Shadow Cabinet, as there is also the LibDem Shadow Cabinet (see http://www.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/government_and_opposition/libdems.cfm). Also see talk page at Talk:Liberal_Democrat_Frontbench_Team#Lib_Dem_Shadow_Cabinet
--Alexd (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever the recent wishes of the Liberal Democrats, whenever anyone else says "the Shadow Cabinet" they always mean the Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet who have the Shadow Cabinet room at Westminster. The parliamentary website just uses the nomenclature supplied by the parties and isn't ruling on this stuff. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:22, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not *the* Shadow Cabinet 

message: The page might benefit from a table like this one, which shows the holders of the major shadow posts since WWII. BartBassist (talk) 13:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Officeholders Table 

message: I see no source suggesting that the Labour Party currently has formed a shadow cabinet. Without that, simply listing the Brown cabinet as the "shadow cabinet" is dubious speculation. Feel free to replace the list if you can show a source.--Scott Mac 21:21, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for that? From what you are saying, a former Minister who lost their seat at the last election would also be in the Shadow Cabinet at this time. Road Wizard (talk) 01:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  premature list removed 

message: With the election of a new leader, are the old Shadow Cabinet members still members? Or should we cut the list down to the six ex officio members until the Shadow Cabinet election is over? (I don't think peers have elected their backbench representative, the seventh ex officio, yet.) -Rrius (talk) 05:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miliband Shadow Cabinet 

message: please add references.Phd8511 (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  no references 

message: Shadow Ministers keep their positions within the Shadow Cabinet before a resuffle. Thus, putting "TBA" is not accurate unless they have resigned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PepperMintTea1967 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shadow Ministers before reshuffle 

message: [ Not all Opposition frontbenchers are members of the Shadow Cabinet, which is composed of the most senior Opposition Members (usually around 20). ] 
Think this could be removed now, since it no longer has any relevance, also it is quite outdated   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.46.83 (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "most senior Opposition Members" 

message: What has happened to the "Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government" and "Shadow Secretary of State for Defence"?
From my tweeting last night (13-14 hours ago) I thought Diane Abbott MP was Communities and Local Government and Gloria de Piero MP was Defence?
But now Diane Abbott MP is International Development and Gloria de Piero MP has vanished   92.18.46.83 (talk) 10:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Am a bit confused 

message: When were shadow cabinets invented?  When did Oppositions first start to have shadow cabinets?  According to Hollis's "Jennie Lee", note 76 at the end of Chapter 6, Labour's shadow cabinet dates back to 1955.  Before then, the Opposition front bench didn't hold individual policy briefs. -86.188.109.221 (talk) 21:05, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this article is woefully incomplete, first of all  without historical information on the reason for having a shadow  cabinet and now without a history on why there are all those TBDs.  The  article has been marked "lacking sources"; BBC press ought to be a rich mine for information on why the shadow cabinet is resigning one after another.  100.15.120.122 (talk) 15:37, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Michael Dugher is no longer in office and the office is currently vacant.
109.149.189.133 (talk) 17:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - a boat that can float! (watch me float) 06:52, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2016 

message: Two Shadow Secretary of States for Defence? (Emily Thornberry & Clive Lewis) 
Shadow Foreign Secretary  (Emily Thornberry MP) 
these sections need double checking Wiki editors  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.83.255 (talk) 16:02, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defence / Foreign / Emily Thornberry 

message: Is there any chance that we could split the table for pre- and post-Brexit? It is genuinely difficult to get the information I was hoping to get from the current table. StillWaitingForConnection (talk) 00:16, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this is probably one reshuffle too late but hopefully the changes just made are along the lines of what you were thinking Seeinggreen (talk) 21:29, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split table? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Shami Chakrabarti is a peer and should be mentioned as "The Rt Hon The Baronness Chakrabarti CBE PC".
Keir Starmer has been knighted and (even with the post-nominal of KCB) should be mentioned as "The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB QC MP".
Angela Evans Smith is a privy counsellor and should be mentioned as "The Rt Hon The Baronness Smith of Basildon PC".
Thomas McAvoy is a privy counsellor and should be mentioned as "The Rt Hon The Lord McAvoy PC". 70.29.38.15 (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: per MOS:HONORIFICS and a lack of sources.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2019 

message: Keir Starmer MP is now the Leader of the Official Opposition (04/03/2020) and thus isn't Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, the position of which has now been abolished. There is now a Deputy Leader which is Angela Rayner MP, who thus can't be and isn't Shadow Secretary of State for Education (04/03/2020).
https://labour.org.uk/people/leadership-elections-hub-2020/leadership-elections-2020-results/
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eashwelllewis (talk • contribs) 18:23, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I can't comprehend your request, so, please, clarify or make your request per the above message.   Can I Log In's  (talk) page 21:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2020 

message: I'm interesting in hearing what people's thoughts are on adding a parameter in shadow ministers' infoboxes for who they're shadowing. This would have to be a custom parameter using | 1blankname          = Shadowing as there is no current specific parameter for this, although I have requested it. I don't believe this goes against what constitutes a good infobox, and if anything supports it. DanJWilde (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding '''Shadowing''' parameter for shadow ministers

message: Angela Rayner has been listed as "Deputy Leader of the Opposition" however no such role exists. This role should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.209.12 (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . You sure about that? . ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deputy Leader of the Opposition 

message: Hi, I was just wondering if someone could explain the present ordering of the list, for example if it is based on importance then why shadow education sec is rated above shadow foreign sec etc. Firestar47 (talk) 21:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this, it feels wrong to group it currently, where as the cabinet page groups the four great offices together, perhaps change it in line with the cabinet one? 172.76.5.27 (talk) 03:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll have a go at changing it. Firestar47 (talk) 21:29, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordering of the list