Talk:The Office (American TV series)/Archive 1

message: I love the images of the cast, but Wikipedia is having a very hard time serving them today.  It just keeps timing out on me.  Is anyone else having this problem?  Should we eliminate the images until Wikipedia speeds up? --Jeremy Butler 01:11, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that's really too bad. Maybe there's some official guidelines about this someplace? The images were loading fine earlier, but I assume the server load is significantly higher during Western evenings. If we do remove them I think it would have to be a permanent thing as this likely won't resolve on it's own. --Mrtea 02:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously this is a wikipedia issue. Hopefully this will be addressed globally in the future. I am, of course, for the pictures, because you can always hit stop loading, but will go with the flow. I tried to get small pictures for this reasson. I know this show is new but I am modelling it after the Seinfeld pages. --vossman 04:35, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, those images are a perfect size and you wouldn't think Wikipedia would have trouble loading them.  Mebbe the best course of action is just to keep an eye on it over the next few days.  My concern is mostly for newbie Wikipedia users who might get frustrated with the slow loading and just give up on the page and move on. --Jeremy Butler 12:41, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too Many Images? 

message: It seems a bit awkward to me to separate the DVD releases by region.  Does this mean that there will need to be headings for regions 2-6 as well? It seems to me that most Wikipedia users will be interested in which seasons are released primarily and secondarily their region encoding.  Come to think of it, is DVD release information the sort of thing that belongs in an encyclopedia?  I'm not sure. --Jeremy Butler 01:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the way other television shows have their DVD releases listed (see  24, Friends, and Survivor for examples).  As far as I know there are not other region releases and there are not going to be.  This is a U.S. show so it will probably only be released in region 1. Jtrost 02:20, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty of examples of U.S. shows getting other region releases, check the DVD section of amazon.co.uk. For example, both 24 and Friends have region 2 releases, but for some reason they are not listed in those articles. Qutezuce 03:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

text: If there is a Wikipedia standard for listing DVD releases, we should go with that--even if it's just a de facto standard.  But I'd still argue against including region encoding in the header because (1) it places too much emphasis on the region encoding and (2), as Qutezuce says, DVDs encoded for regions other than 1 are often ignored so why use a structure that pretends to emphasize region encoding? --Jeremy Butler 13:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know Wikipedia does not have any standards regarding DVD releases.  I simply formatted these DVD releases just like the other TV shows to stay consistant.  However, the other alternative is to format it like Family Guys's DVD releases.  I really just didn't like the way that the region was part of the table.  It seemed really out of place to me. Jtrost 00:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Region 1 DVD  

message: Jenna confirms other cast members blog sites:
Imposter!<BR>
There is an imposter Pam Beesley on MySpace!  We just discovered someone pretending to be The Office characters and posting.  It is true that real cast members keep MySpace pages.  The real ones are:<BR>
*Angela - http://www.myspace.com/accountinglady 
*B.J. Novak (who plays Ryan) -  http://www.myspace.com/bjnovak  
*Toby - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=28720913<BR>
Sorry if there has been any confusion.<BR>
Jenna<BR>
P.S.  Kevin is working on his page now!
This was in the html comments by the myspace.com blogs:
*I know Pam's blog is real, because she provides tons of insider info... as for Angela, Toby, and Ryan; it is hard to say 
I was just cleaning up the external links section so I wanted to move it here. Also because we've established that "Pam's" blog is legit, and she links and discusses the other blogs, that makes them credible as well. Mrtea (talk) 02:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace.com Blogs 

message: I left this on ChicosBailBonds's talk page, but maybe some points in it might give someone some ideas for the article.
:Hey, just about your adding of the British equivalents to the cast list. I'm not too sure if those really belong there. This article is for the NBC version of The Office- as it's own seperate television series. There's already a comparison of the characters with their equivalents in The Office (this article is about the actual series- not either specific version.) I didn't want to revert your edits... maybe they belong. What do you think?
 
It could be good, but I think the focus for this article should be on The Office (US), as an independent series. Any input? Mrtea 07:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast: British equivalents 

message: I propose we keep the character name to firstname lastname (if known) and exclude all middle names for clarity. I have been reverting this, but probably should have some discussion. --vossman 21:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and have reverted some anonymous edits that had put their previously reverted edits back in place. Both those ip addresses now have the note about the revisions so they know why the edits were reverted. If anyone opposes this please leave a message. Mrtea (talk) 02:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't think they should be listed, mainly for clarity (as mentioned above) and personally I just think it looks ugly. If this above anonymous user feels so strongly about it, I don't think it's worth the keep effort to keep reverting their edits. Mrtea (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character names -- no middle names 

message: Regarding the recent move: I brought my concerns up with the user who made the move, as it goes against Wikipedia's current naming conventions. Here's a link to the note. I was going to just move it back until I realized he or she had been active in some of the discussions regarding acronyms in titles and might have some more insight than myself. Please point me right if I'm missing something. Mrtea (talk) 04:47, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the page back. Mrtea (talk) 20:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Office (US)]] to [[The Office (United States)]] 

message: I prefer the original. Agree it should be changed back? Mrtea (talk) 05:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed 100%. Jtrost (T | C | #) 13:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Title screen images are the norm for tv show infobox's all over Wikipedia. That's the title screen for the Office, that's why it was uploaded. It doesn't make sense for one tv show to have a cast photo and another one to have a title screen. Shows that don't have title screens are probably because no one has gotten around to uploading one yet. HeyNow10029 20:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if not having a title screen "doesn't make sense". It gives the reader a better idea of what the show is about. They see the text, "The Office" in the title of the article. Is there are Manual of Style entry for this or is it just your opinion? Mrtea (talk) 21:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's his opinion.  See my reply here. Jtrost (T | C | #) 21:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The trouble with using cast photos as images in the infobox, are the questions that arise. For instance, in a show like ER where the original cast members are all long-gone, what cast picture would you use? A current one? Or a cast picture during the height of the show's popularity? Title cards make sense because they're the one consistent thing that represents a show. If people want to a see a cast picture, it's just a quick scroll down along with all the information they need about a show. Plus, it makes sense that if a person were to go from page to page that there would be some kind of a uniform image in the infobox. HeyNow10029 23:50, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the authors of each article should decide on the image.  If you would like to see a standard implemented, go discuss it on the television wikiproject.  If none of the regular authors to this article object, I would like to change it back. Jtrost (T | C | #) 18:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because there is no concensus, I think the best thing to do would be to revert the change for now. If HeyNow10029 would like to push the issue, we could have a straw poll. Mrtea (talk) 18:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New infobox image 

message: Do we need a character template for The Office--a la this one for Gilmore Girls: Template:GilmoreGirls? --Jeremy Butler 15:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great idea. I'll get to work on it tonight if someone else doesn't do it first! Williamnilly 18:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Template? 

message: Err I'm going to remove this last bit of trivia. I'm not really sure the band exists. They get literally two hits on Google. We should get a real citation for this one, especially considering Jay Ferguson is officially credited for composing the music. Consider yourself duped! Mrtea (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya know, I think you're right. It was one of those things where the MySpace looked legit but the minor details didn't but I wasn't sure if the band was being silly or WHAT. I was just waiting for someone to come along and say, "Hey. This is stupid." Thanks! :) Williamnilly 06:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia - The Scrantones...