Talk:Ingemar Stenmark

message: Actually I doubt the pronunciation is written correctly now ([ˈɪŋmar]).  From that you get the impression that the "e" in Ingemar isn't pronounced.  But it surely is (at least in standard Swedish).  Note that his first name is not identical to that of the film director Bergman.  Fomalhaut76 (talk) 11:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish pronunciation 

message: I would like to try to inform:  
:There, in Madonnna di Campiglio, Italy, Stenmark was placed 22nd after first slalom run - and could win. It's to mention that rules of that time said, regarding second runs (as well slalom as giant slalom): First starter is the 15h of the first run, second starter the 14th a.s.o.; after start of the best timed racer the next one was the 16th, followed by the 17th a.s.o. - There sometimes were exceptiones called "Super Bibbo": First starter of 2nd run was the 5th, followed by the 4th - and the 6th starter was the 6th of first run a.s.o. - Benjamin Raich could win as the 23rd after first run on January 7th, 1999 - and Marc Berthod did it as the 27th (with bib-no 60) on January 7th, 2007 -  in each case it was a slalom race and it was the first win of a World Cup race for Mr. Raich and Mr. Berthod! - Divergent to Stenmark's win in 1974, first starter of a second run (as well slalom as giant slalom) was (and is still), that (since maybe the 1990ies) the 30th of first run started/starts first and the racer with the best time started/starts at last. 213.225.35.23 (talk) 12:30, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  First victory in a Word Cup race on December 17th, 1974 

message: Though Ingemar was victorious 86 times he could solely win three times the "World Cup overall title". If he would be a racer in the present (since the late 1980ies) he had won it (maybe) five or six times. - World Cup scoring system: Originally, points were awarded only to the top 10 finishers in each race, with 25 points for the winner, 20 for second, 15 for third, 11 for fourth, 8 for fifth, 6 for sixth, 4 for seventh, and then decreasing by 1 point for each lower place. At a later time (since 1978/79), points were awarded to the top 15 finishers in each race, with 25 points for the winner a.so. To determine the winner for each discipline World Cup, only a racer's best 3 results would count, even though there would typically be 6–8 races in each discipline. Being the decesive factor in Ingemar's career was as following: For the overall Cup, the best three results in each discipline would be summed. For the 1971–72 season, the number of results counted was increased to 5 in each discipline. The formula used to determine the overall winner varied almost every year over the next decade, with some seasons divided into two portions with a fixed number of results in each period counting towards the overall, while in other seasons the best 3 or 4 results in each discipline would count. - Ingemar did only start in the slalom and giant slalom. Though he could win a lot of races, decisive points were insufficient. His rivals ([[f.e. Peter Lüscher, Andreas Wenzel) did compete in downhills and combinations by collecting those decisive points. Indeed Ingemar did compete in the "Hahnenkamm downhill race on January 17th, 1981, in order to catch points for the combined (he finished 34th, 10.72 seconds behind winner Steven Podborsky (Canada), but he became 3rd in the Combined - by the way, competing in mentioned downhill race was Ingemar's only doing so) and also competing in several Super-Gs, he couldn't win the Overall World Cup once more. Since the late 1980ies there are no limits; each point counts for the Overall World Cup (and until 1991/92 points are awarded to the to 30 finishers in each race - and with 100 points for the winner, 80 for second, 60 for third, 50 for fourth, 45 for fifth a.s.o. - Luc Alphand could be victorious in 1996/97 by collecting points only in the two speed disciplines, downhill and super G – a unique achievement in World Cup history). 213.225.35.23 (talk) 13:38, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Only" three wins of  World Cup Overall 

message: He did win on February 21st, 1975 - please, see season 1974-75! Skiscout (talk) 16:36, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Giant slalom Naeba 1975 

message: He didn't win it. Ok, I know that the FIS websites say, he did. But FIS doesn't consider regulation of deduction points. Heini Hemmi was victorious. He scored the same amount (like Ingemar Stenmark) of retained points (115) achieved better results throughout the season in that event (3rd place Sun Valley). --Skiscout (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Giant Slalom World Cup 1976-77 

message: The "Talk" in the German Wikipedia says that he would have gained 15.746 points if regulations of present had been applied. --Skiscout (talk) 18:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  15.746 points