Talk:Russ Hamilton (poker player)

message: So is he going to jail or anything?--Sonjaaa (talk) 20:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Caught cheating?

message: OK, I haven't visited the page in a while.  But, is there some reason there is no mention of the 60 Minutes episode which explicitly named Hamilton as the main cheater in the UB/AP scandal?  They set a figure of $20 million dollars on the cheating.  In the current article, there is no indication of the scale of the cheating which both Kahwanake and 60 minutes directly attribute to Hamilton, and which clearly amounts to millions of dollars.
The current article might easily be interpeted as "he once peeked at someones cards and stole $18.50."  Not much indication of the real bombshell which dropped when 60 minutes outed him as one of the biggest poker cheats in history. zadignose (talk) 08:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Why don't you have a go at finding some reliable sources and fleshing out this section of the article? Hazir (talk) 18:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  nice to see that, just over 12 months later, the article DOES have more clear details re. Hamilton's involvement, and the fact that "22 million" is the new estimated total stolen. 199.214.18.122 (talk) 19:47, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No reference to 60 minutes episode?   No indication of scale of cheating? 

message: the 1994 Final hand which can be seen on YouTube shows Russ Hamilton was dealt:  and Hugh Vincent with 
in the video a shot of the board shows 
Meaning that there would had to been two 8 of clubs in the deck, this was more then likely a post production error on ESPN's part, Vincent looking at his cards would had surely notice if two 8 of clubs were in play not to mention dozens of bystanders, its not really logical that if someone were going to rig the wsop that they would had done so in such a blatant and obvious manner, Hamilton very well may be a disliked even hated figure in poker but I very much doubt that the 1994 WSOP was rigged to favor him to win.
This topic was brought up at 2+2 forum a year ago 
A comment was made in the notes section about 2 eight of clubs in the deck and was removed by another editor.
If anyone feel that there is good reason why this information should stay please give the reasons here, thanks ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡Talk 08:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks to me like a very heavily edited video; I cannot possibly see how nobody in the casino would have pointed out that there were two 8 of clubs in the deck. As such, it shouldn't be put in the article that "The deck was rigged," etc etc, and that even if this issue were to be placed in an article at all, it shouldn't be in Russ Hamilton's biography.JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 08:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡Talk 12:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1994 Final hand 

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