Talk:History of Ukraine

message: Why is the Chernobyl article not listed in chronological order? As it is, WWII is listed as happening after the Chernobyl disaster. Zaporozhian (talk) 20:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Twentieth Century" in the sidebar

message: I'm preparing an article on the concept of Western Betrayal User:Halibutt/Western betrayal. I need someone to drop in and add some info on the meaning of the term in the Ukraine. Did the Ukraine feel sold to Stalin or anything similar during WWII?Halibutt 09:56, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Western betrayal

message: We need a series on Ukrainian History on this site, perhaps one separate detailed article for each heading.  Any comments?  Contributions?
Genyo 11:59, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: To which I add there is no mention of the Dukhobors in the History of Ukraine. 2602:306:8039:CC20:7B73:DF23:DAC1:71CB (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series on Ukrainian History 

message: The history section of the main country page looks like it has about as much information as does this page. Someone should move over whatever's missing here. --Shallot 17:17, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main page history section 

message: Dear wikipedians,
there is the following text in the article:
In the 11th century, Kievan Rus was, geographically, the largest state in Europe. During this time, Kievan Rus became known in the rest of Europe under several names derived from Rus. In addition, the name "Ukraine" first appears in recorded history on maps of the period.
Can anyone point me to the map that uses Ukraine that time? As far as I know, there are just few disputed references to this word in Chronicles at the best!
Thanks!
Dr Bug  (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 23:33, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd better write your version. --Vasile 00:03, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Maybe you want to sustain this important modification. --Vasile 04:43, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukraine at maps. 

message: Your version: The Russians in particular imposed strict limits on attempts to elevate Ukrainian language and culture, even banning its use in official documents. Due to political processes in Austro-Hungary, the people of Ukraine began to accept a change of their name from Rus/Rusyny to Ruthenia/Ruthenians and then to Ukraine/Ukrainians.
The actual version: The Russians in particular imposed strict limits on attempts to elevate Ukrainian language and culture, even banning its use and study. The fate of the Ukrainians was much more positive under the Austrians. During this time, the people of Ukraine began to accept a change of their name from Rus'/Rusyny (Ruthenia/Ruthenians) to Ukraine/Ukrainians.
--Vasile
Dear Vasile, it's because there are no evidences of any decisions of Russian tsars or Russian government against the Ukrainian language use in common literature. However, I will check documents and update with details. Dr Bug  (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 08:30, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Prohibition of Ukrainian language

message: "The first identifiable groups to populate what is now Ukraine were the Trypillians, followed by the Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, and Goths, among other nomadic peoples who arrived throughout the first millennium BC. During this period, Ukraine served as a super highway for the migration for peoples from Asia into Europe. These people were known to colonists and traders in the ancient world, including the Greeks and the Romans, who established trading outposts, and which eventually became city states. Of particular interest was the Antes civilization, which, during the common era, left its mark upon the territory of Ukraine. The Antes were thought to be an early Slavic or pre-Slavic civilization in the area."
Could somebody please explain to me this paragraph's subtle sense metaphoric "relevance" for the article? --Vasile 00:22, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You didn't answer my question. If you write about history of the "territory", what's the reason you mentioned those peoples? Why are they important for Ukraine history? For example, please write more about the importance of Roman colons in Ukraine history. Where these colons were located? --Vasile 02:02, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  If anything, previous settlements are important because they show why the current population settled the same area. Pre-historic, Greek and Roman colonies were all generally built next to notable landforms: arable land for agriculture, or rivers for water or seas for trade or easily defensible hills where one can build forts, ... and then they probably also left traces of their culture/civilization that was inherited by those that came later. There can be any number of notable historical factoids in the old periods. (I never thought I'd have to explain this kind of thing...) --Joy [shallot] 12:17, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: What's wrong with saying what/who was in today's Ukraine before the Ukrainians? Even though it may seem anachronistic to put this under the modern-day title, history doesn't begin in the 6th century AD. --Joy [shallot] 01:28, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  I absolutely agree. I would even prefer more information about the history prior to the 6th century. Juro 03:28, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text:  I should also probably note my semi-bias given that I've recently created Croatia before the Croats with just this line of reasoning in mind. --Joy [shallot] 12:17, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Early History

message: The 'Under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth' section states: After the Union of Lublin in 1569 and the formation of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth the gentry of Ukraine voted for membership in the Polish part of the Commonwealth. I find it quite confusing and likely erroneus. First 1) who is 'the gentry of Ukraine'? 2) what 'voting'? IIRC, Ukraine was then controlled by GDL, and GDL was basically forced by the PLC to cede Ukraine to the PLC during the negotations that led to the Lublin Union (the argument flowing along the lines: if you want our (PLC) protection from Muscovy, you have to give us something in return for pulling us into this conflict). True, the Union of Lublin was voted for by the gentry of PLC and GDL (or rather, GDL magnates), but was there really a separate gentry in Ukraine that voted specifically for inclusion in the PLC?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, it would be wiser to identify voting magnates that were Orthodox Christians. Sashazlv 02:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Not PLC, but PL. PLC is Poland-Lithuania :) Second, not forced by Poland, by but graand dukje, who, after getting nervous when Lithuainan magnates didn't want the union, decided to transfer Ukraine to Poland :) (and then they commented: why do you need the union with us, if we are already given to you?) But I will search for that. Szopen 17:00, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gentry voting to join PLC?

message: I tagged this section as POV after first reading it. It is clearly biased in the way of not mentioning the massive negative sides of the post-war Soviet rule in Ukraine. E.g., could I have at least short tips on the following issues:
*Russification
*atheism
*poor and subordinated state of social sciences and humanities
*persecution of dissidents
*all massive environment impacts (not limited to Chornobyl)
*militarization of economy and social life
*urbanization and tremendous decline of Ukrainian rural society
*corruption,
and dozens of "etceteras"?
BTW, objections like "it has been an all-Soviet trend" will not be accepted: it is a main article on Ukrainian history. And every each important detail should be at least hinted and linked. Ukrained 11:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please propose your specific changes to the article. The problem of the section stems from its being too brief rather than biased. We have only this many editors interested in Ukraine and they have only this much time. Unfortunately, while some try to add as much info as possible, the coberage of Ukraine lacks significantly. Also, the intrusions of some editors who do nothing but edit warring over names wastes much of the valuable time. If you don't mind, I will remove the tag. The section isn't one-sided. It is simply too brief. This is not a :template:POV-section problem bu rather :template:expandsect. Finally, the aggressice wording of what "will not be accepted" by you stated in advance is unhelpful. --Irpen 19:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POVed [[History_of_Ukraine#Post-war and independence|Post-war and independence]] section 

message: Recent anon edit added some info about Ukrainians to that article. It was stronlgy POVed (for exmple, he changed every single 'Poles' entry to 'Poles and Ukrainians'), but I salvaged some of it and I am moving some other info here, as it seems to belong here more then there. Feel free to go over that edit and HoP article and NPOV it more.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salvaged form [[History of Poland]] 

message: What about the famine of 1921? (G Ranzini 17:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. I just started expanding the interwar section. I cannot say how fast I will manage to work on this, but it certainly deserves to be mentioned. So far I wrote on the most important things in the Soviet part of Ukraine that happened at the interwar time that in chronological order would be early-Soviet Ukrainization, industrialization, Holodomor and purge. You may also note that other sections of the interwar period (under non-Soviet governments) are also missing. This needs much work. I just started by writing on the most important things. --Irpen 06:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwar section

message: user:TSO1D deleted a certain piece from Ukraine article with the comment:
"All of the regions mentioned had Romanain majorities with the exception of the "western part" which ironically was given to the Moldovan SSR)"
Indeed, this is true Bessarabia for Hertsa region. But Ukraine incorporated not whole piece Bessarabia, but its southern part, with exactly the pretext that this part was predominantly Ukraininan. Also, I have doubts that Bukovina had Romanian majority. 
Can TSO1D please give a bit more support to the edit? mikka (t) 22:13, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Northern Bukovina, which was incorporated in Ukraine had a Ukrainian majority. The only Romanian majority area attached to UA was the Hertsa region. I will correct it. I planned to continue adding some order to this article anyway. --Irpen 01:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It is an interesting historical question and it deserves further explanation. I can readily believe there were Romanian compacts in the area. Also, what was the remaining 45%? mikka (t) 05:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just check Bukovina and Chernivtsi Oblast articles. The history of ethnical composition of the regions comprise disproportinately much there but info was edit warred much and, since it stabilized, we can be more or less sure it's right. --Irpen 05:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know whether it will be possible to reconstruct the true demographic distribution during that period. The sources that I have consulted have greatly different statistics (however most of them were Romanian and there is of course a chance of bias). The census carried out by the Soviet government cannot fully be trusted due to the intense politization of the process. Modern sources also tend to be biased (the Ukrainian sources have a higher percentage for Ukrainians, the Romanian one for Romanians). I cannot say that I did extensive research on the subject, I only verified some sources so I suppose the Bukovina and Cernăuţi articles might have more accurate information. 
Mikka's question is also interesting, I have no idea what the other 45 percent of the people might have been. My guess would be Russian and Jewish but what else I do not know.TSO1D 23:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  deletion due to populace disagreement 

message: :I removed the piece below. It is poorly fitted to the article and I don;t think it has any place at all. Even Ukraine would be a better place. The history of UA article just deserves a mention in appropriate sections: mid-century to 70s-80s about nucleazing and 90s section for de-nucleazing. Whoever feels like, is welcome to use it for a separate Ukraine and Nuclear Weapons article. --Irpen 21:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukraine and Nuclear Weapons

message: The article East-West dissimilarity in Ukraine never really got written, and is now redirected here.  Here is the text, for future reference.  —Michael Z. 2006-08-15 00:40 Z
: The East-West dissimilarity in Ukraine is rooted in the nation's history and goes well into the medieval times. The issue is largely caused by the fact that, historically, Ukraine was surrounded by powerful neighbors which rivaled for the direct control or at least political domination of the territory. Among the neighboring states with such imperialistic ambitions towards Ukraine, Poland and Russia influenced Ukrainian history the most. 
: However, other powers at different times, such as Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Austrian Empire also played an important role, as well as the Crimean Khaganate and the Ottomans. At the same time, the  Ukraine's own past statehood institutions (examples are the Cossack Hetmanate, Zaporozhian Host and Ukrainian People's Republic) were comparatively short-lived and their influence on the country's destiny could not rival that of the large regional powers located to the East or to the West of Ukraine.
: ==External links==
: * Aggressive Ignorance (Ukrayinska Pravda 2006 article criticising the election-driven ideas of formalizing the inter-region dissimilarities)
----
I request this above not to be pasted anywhere in the article please. I wrote this passage and it was suitable for an article on the specifics of the regional differences in UA. However, as several people did not like the article (or its title or its content, not sure) and the issue of the deletion (!) was raised twice over the several months of the article's existence, I gave up on that. I see no need for this stuff to be added to this History of UA or any other article in its current form especially because the particularly History of UA article is currently a mess so much worse of the histories of our neighbors (RU and PL) that I really feel ashamed. What this article needs is not an extra clutter in the form of pasting of a disconnected piece about a narrow issue but major work by committed editors that would structure it better, expand the current sections in the mainarticles, rewrite the former ones into the summaries of the latter for this one. There is also a problem of harmonizing this article with the history section of the Ukraine article as well as the appropriate material from other articles with historic info. Within days I plan to finish a more consistent history section of the Ukraine article but for the major work the History of UA article needs, a set of committed editors is required. 
So, let's keep this stuff here at talk (since others found it not suitable for the article on its own) and start the History of UA project at some point, which is no less crucial than the Subdivisions project that gets so much work these days. --Irpen 01:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  East-West dissimilarity in Ukraine 

message: WP has a policy regarding national varities of English, and that is not to chnage them without reason.  Going around and changing them on a protected page is a waste of time and energy and an abuse of the power.  Normally I'd revert such a change, but I can't because it's protected, and that's not fair.  Kevlar67 04:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't jump to conclusions and dont overgeneralize. Learn to ask quetions before proceeding to accusations. Rgds, `'mikka 05:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't use Admin powers for something as pathetic and trivial as -ise vs, ize 

message: I am trying to research the Family surname Slobodan. From what I have found, it was dirived from the word Sloboda which ment freedom or Peace. I know that the name Slobodan is a very comon firts name but from what I read and understand from speaking to people in the so called "Old Country" the name Slobodan is rare as a last name. My family came over from Galicia, Austria in 1909 and setteled in Canada. Can someone please more information on the last name Slobodan and where it may have originated. Thanks, Terrill Slobodan  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.198.159.52 (talk) 14:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slobodan 

message: So there was an edit summary calling "vandalism".
I am not sure if you perhaps like the Vandals and this was a compliment, but on Wikipedia, the term has a specific meaning. The edit in question basically removed some non-free maps (which also did not work as thumbnail), replacing them with better and free maps, and replaced "Poland and Lithuania" (i.e. links to the modern states in a 14th century context) with "Poland and Lithuania" since there is no way this can be described as "vandalism" in any meaningful sense, I do not know how to reply to this, and do also not think it necessary. 
If there is any valid point you would like to make, please calm down and explain what it is. 
As long as you just keep saying "vandalism" in the obvious absense of vandalism, I am afraid the problem is on your end. --dab (𒁳) 16:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "vandalism"?

message: " n the 3rd century AD, the Goths arrived in the lands of Ukraine around 250–375 AD, which they called Oium, corresponding to the archaeological Chernyakhov culture.[8] The Ostrogoths stayed in the area but came under the sway of the Huns from the 370s. North of the Ostrogothic kingdom was the Kiev culture, flourishing from the 2nd–5th centuries, when it was overrun by the Huns. After they helped defeat the Huns at the battle of Nedao in 454, the Ostrogoths were allowed to settle in Pannonia. "
?! ?! ?! 
so where did the slavs came from - from the moon? And where did the "Oiums" aka "germans" went? 
Did they went without a fight? 
Is this a fairy tale?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.198.78.234 (talk) 08:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of spreading Ukrainian nazi parols, simply look up these word in wikipedia - if you are able to read. BTW, both Germanic speaking and Balto-Slavic speaking people originate from Indo-European speaking people, probably via a common intermediate ancestor people for millennia of common existance.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:99C1:4837:7C52:EC0C (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  pan German view of history 

message: Removed above sentence from the article since it seems a bit POV-y and belongs more in a newspaper editorial then in Wikipedia. First of all Party of Regions might be pro-Russian language and culture but there atitute towards the Russian state seems not that different to me then Yulia Tymoshenko's BYuT; and whats with this "Orange Revolution of 2004 was halted, at least temporarily". In my point of view the Orange Revolution ended when Viktor Yushchenko was sworn in President or when he sacked Tymoshenko as Prime Minister on September 8, 2005... Something that has stoped in 2005 can not be halted since it is already stoped... Lastly the Alliance of National Unity was in between the Orange Revolution and Yanukovych's Presidency. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 01:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "As a result Yanukovych's pro-Russia party had regained power after five years and the [[Orange Revolution]] of 2004 was halted, at least temporarily" 

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message: The inclusion of the Stalin quote in this edit  is problematic in several respects. Most importantly, it just plucks that quote out of context and presents without commentary and at face value. This might seem shocking to some, but politicians (including Stalin) don't always say what they think and reveal their true motivations readily. It's the job of the historian, or any responsible person writing about the subject for that matter, to consider the context.
And in fact, that's just what the Roberts source does. Roberts comments on the quote that "These statements...require some comments". Then describes the context in which they were made. And then sums them up by saying "Stalin's immediate purpose was to present an ideological rationale for the Red Army's forthcoming invasion of Poland". Volunteer Marek  01:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: well not quite.  Volunteer Marek uses a selective quote to omit the main points Roberts was making. Roberts notes that the comments marked a change from the previous "popular front" policy of Communist Party cooperation with other parties. Roberts says Stalin's "main message" here  was the need to avoid a revolutionary civil war. Rjensen (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stalin's goals" 

message: " the 2004 Orange Revolution prevented pro-Moscow Viktor Yanukovych from stealing an election"
is not encyclopaedic wording; plus: 10 years old day-to-day politics do not belong into an Introduction.
This paragraph for deletion.
Nuremberg - Ángel.García 131.188.3.21 (talk) 16:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate wording in Introduction 

message: The collectivization section was obviously written or edited by someone who supports the Ukrainian Nationalist historical argument. Claiming that "[n]on-Soviets maintain that the famine was an avoidable, deliberate act of genocide" is ridiculously inaccurate and misleading. Only 13 countries out of nearly 200 UN member nations agree with that position, and they are almost exclusively NATO members and/or close allies of the United States. The descriptor "non-Soviets" doesn't make any sense at all in 2014, since the Soviet Union has not existed for over two decades, but if it means anything then it suggests agreement among the countries of the world that were not part of the Soviet Union. That is, to put it bluntly, a lie, and one that serves to further the obvious political bent of this section. 
The only sources cited in this entire section are a BBC article citing unnamed historians who believe that the death toll might have been "possibly up to" 10 million, and a 40 page Encyclopaedia Britannica article about Ukraine to support the statement about Stalin's purges of the KPU and intelligentsia. It makes reference to "the most recent demographic studies" without bothering to cite them or even identify the source. 
This is a historical subject that has been thoroughly distorted by Cold War era propaganda in general, but surely Wikipedia can do better than this.
205.178.27.71 (talk) 23:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collectivization section is non-neutral and inaccurate 

message: Um, the name Galicia was invented in the late 18th c. It is not proper to speak of Galicia before then. The older name was Ruthenia, no? See Larry Wolff, "The Idea of Galicia: History and fantasy in Habsburg political culture," 504 pp. Stanford University Press, 2011. 
Galicia was an invented name bestowed on the region by 18th c. Austro-Hungarian scholars after the fall of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, based on the somewhat fanciful notion that in remote antiquity it had been the original homeland of the Gaulish tribes who later settled in France, Italy, Britain and Spain. (Note, during the time of the Roman Empire Gothic barbarians referred to all Romanized (i.e., Latin speaking) peoples as "Gauls"). During the 18th c. Austro-Hungary embarked on a "civilizing mission" for the region and succeeded to a considerable extent in forging a regional identity out of its heterogeneous population, which included Poles, Jews, Russians and others. Nevertheless, it is a mistake to project this collective identity backward into earlier times.  173.77.75.164 (talk) 15:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galicia 

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message: "Around 10,000 years ago the world's longest river[22] emptied glacier melted water through the Don and the Black Sea. From springs in Gobi it flowed along the Yenisei, which was then dammed by northern glaciers. Through the West Siberian Glacial Lake flowed about 10,000 km;[23] It was longer than any river known today.[24]" - This obviously is completely misunderstood, because the source speaks of 90,000 (!) years ago. The source is now (2021-10) available via http://people.geo.su.se/martin/PDF/Mangerud_etal_2004_QSR_QUEEN_issue.pdf2A02:8108:9640:AC3:99C1:4837:7C52:EC0C.HJHolm (talk) 14:31, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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message: I made a small edit, adding the link to Deep and Comprehensive Free trade Area under the acronym DCFA, as I thought this would not be controversial, but I am a casual wikipedia user doing research and not an editor. With that understood, this sentence is one I have read several times and still cannot fully grok. I know it is likely not possible to track down the editor that made this edit, I am merely bringing this to your attention in the hopes that someone has enough contextual knowledge and history with this page to understand what this is saying :
* Significant achievements in the foreign policy arena: support for anti-Russian sanctions, obtaining a visa-free regime with the countries of the European Union, combined with the need to overcome extremely difficult tasks within the country
Needing difficult tasks does not sound like an achievement in the foreign policy arena. My best guess is,
* Steps forward to diplomacy with the west were made during this period, with anti-Russian sanctions and the ability to travel visa free within the European Union. Domestically, several challenges left over from the recent economic strife and political division were overcome as well
I believe this would then end with a "which" tag in either case, as the domestic achievements were not specified. However I am very uncertain about my guess, and as I am doing research on the political situation and mainly stopped here for context and primary sources, I am fairly certain I should not be the person making this edit, if indeed an edit should be made.
Cheers!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.59.126 (talk) 09:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clumsily Worded Sentence 

message: The following passage is no longer correct:
As of 2021, Ukraine is preparing to formally apply for EU membership in 2024, in order to join the European Union in the 2030s.[94]
I propose the following revision:
On February 28th, 2022, Ukraine formally submitted its application for membership in the European Union.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadocollin (talk • contribs) 23:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  EU membership application 

message: The page definitely needs more mention of the 2022 invasion. In fact, the invasion is only referenced once (not including citations) Nonexistent User (talk) 00:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs more mention of the [[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine]] 

message: Why is there no mention of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and how he was elected as President of Ukraine? 2601:983:4702:7820:30E5:71CD:FD6E:EC91 (talk) 23:31, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volodymyr Zelenskyy 

message: comprising local rulers, gentry, and even the Lithuanian Crown itself (see Algirdas and Dmytro Dedko). During this time, Ukraine and Ukrainians saw relative prosperity and autonomy, with the Duchy functioning more like a joint Lithuanian-Ukrainian state, with freedom to practice Orthodox Christianity, speak Ukrainian (especially demonstrated by the significantly low linguistic overlap between the Ukrainian and Lithuanian languages), and continue to engage in Ukrainian culture practices,
In 1490, due to increased oppression of Ukrainians at the hands of the Polish, a series of successful rebellions was led by Ukrainian hero Petro Mukha, joined by other Ukrainians, such as early Cossacks and Hutsuls, in addition to Moldavians (Romanians). Known as Mukha's Rebellion, this series of battles was supported by the Moldavian prince Stephen the Great, and it is one of the earliest known uprisings of Ukrainians against Polish oppression. These
The 1648 Ukrainian Cossack (Kozak) rebellion or Khmelnytsky Uprising, which started an era known as the Ruin (in Polish history as The Deluge), undermined the foundations and stability of the Commonwealth.
While right-bank Ukraine belonged to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth until late 1793, left-bank Ukraine had been incorporated into Tsardom of Russia in 1667 (under the Treaty of Andrusovo). In 1672, Podolia was occupied by the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while Kyiv and Braclav came under the control of Hetman Petro Doroshenko until 1681, when they were also captured by the Turks, but in 1699 the Treaty of Karlowitz returned those lands to the Commonwealth. 2A04:4A43:476F:EA14:7514:3C2C:472C:59F1 (talk) 22:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple information 

message: Navi86 (talk) 17:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2022 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :1930 in Ukraine and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at  until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Randi Moth (talk) 11:28, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "1930 in Ukraine" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: The last sentence in the section Russo-Ukrainian War, is not correct. "Russia officially annexed the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic, along with most of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts on 30 September.[103]" 
The article in reference does not say "Russia officially" anywhere in the article and the annexation is considered illegal by the United States of America and other western countries outside of Russia. This is a pro Russian stance. 
Proposal:
1) Change the first part of the sentence to read: "Russia illegally"
"Russia illegally annexed the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic, along with most of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts on 30 September.[103]"
2) Remove "officially" from the sentence. 
"Russia annexed the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic, along with most of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts on 30 September.[103]" Politij123 (talk) 00:24, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Lightoil (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2023 

message: Shouldn’t it mention the traditional founding of Kyiv by Kyi, Shchek and Khoryv? MaxwellWinnie102 (talk) 12:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyi