Talk:List of heads of state or government who were later imprisoned

message: Presidents who became prisoners was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was MOVE AND KEEP
So what? I.e., would anyone look this up as a group, as opposed to wanting to know in some individual case? — Bill 22:07, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: Mussolini was Head of Government, but King Emmanuel remained as Head of State. So I removed Mussolini
whoops! didnt read intro to article. sorry about that. 
Shanekorte 05:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He has been added back as heads of regimes include heads of states and governments.--Jusjih 09:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Benito Mussolini, He was not Head of state.  

message: Should we add a list of heads of state who were imprisoned earlier? Examples of my proposal includes Nelson Mandela and Chen Shui-bian as they were imprisoned before becoming heads of state.--Jusjih 16:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add a list of heads of state who were imprisoned earlier? 

message: As this list was out of definite order in any way, I just alphabetized it with consideration of different orders of surnames first and given names first. However, feel free to change as needed even though I have tried to check everything.--Jusjih 17:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am converting the list to a sortable table with additional info that would be useful.--Jusjih 09:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to ask if we should add additional info such as "Born !! Took office !! Position !! Left office !! Imprisoned !! Died !! Notes" as I have finished indexing the surnames. You may see a few text codes that I hide from reading but show when editing as an initial demonstration when clicking "edit this page". If the answer is yes, then I will go ahead. Otherwise, these test codes may be removed.--Jusjih 09:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that there should be more detail, but I don't think the categories "born" and "took office" are particularly relevant to this page. The others are OK. "Notes" should include the offense the person was imprisoned for. —Sesel 15:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just tested my revised new sortable table at List of former heads of regimes who were sentenced to death. Instead of a separate columns "took office" and "Left Office", I just tried "Positions" with the years. However, as some have been prime ministers and presidents, maybe we should unify an order. By time or by rank?--Jusjih 17:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List order 

message: Since this is only a list, maybe it doesn't need documentation here, but if a name belongs on this list, the corresponding Wikipedia article needs to state that the person was imprisoned (and that fact, of course, needs references). For example, the Gorbachev and Khrushchev articles don't say that they were imprisoned after their rule, and I don't think they really were. Mdmcginn 17:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am hiding them from readers' view now. When any editors are sure that they were not later imprisoned, they may be removed from the edit box completely. Gorbachev was taken hostage in a failed coup. That should probably not be counted as being later imprisoned here.--Jusjih 14:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References badly lacking 

message: Jorge Rafael Videla died earlier this year, the others may also need correction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.172.91.181 (talk) 22:38, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probable update needed 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehud_Olmert  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.94.119.135 (talk) 09:15, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  you forgot Ehud  Olmert 

message: Chirac is not in jail. Neither is Sarkozy, I think. Who’s monitoring this page? Sajita (talk) 02:21, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chirac 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :List of heads of government who were later imprisoned's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "BBC":
From Pervez Musharraf: 
From Alberto Fujimori's arrest and trial: 
From Falklands War: 
From Almazbek Atambayev: Kyrgyz candidate in poll pullout, BBC News (23 July 2009)
From Malaysia: 
From Zine El Abidine Ben Ali: "Win confirms Tunisia leader in power", BBC News, 27 May 2002
From Tunisia: 
From Hama Amadou: "Niger vote dissolves government", BBC News Online, 31 May 2007.
From North Macedonia: 
From Robert Mugabe: 
From Juan María Bordaberry: 
From Yulia Tymoshenko: 
From Ivo Sanader: 
From Mykola Azarov: 
From Jean-Pierre Bemba: 
From Lee Myung-bak: 
From Cambodia: 
From Sierra Leone: 
From Milan Martić: 
From Egypt: 
From Nawaz Sharif: 
Reference named "Telegraph":
From Zimbabwe: "Zimbabwe lifts reporting ban on BBC and CNN", The Daily Telegraph, 30 July 2009.
From France: 
From Canaan Banana: 
From P. V. Narasimha Rao: 
Reference named "ansa":
From Silvio Berlusconi: 
From Rocco Salini: 
Reference named "jp":
From Moshe Katsav: 
From Prime Minister of Japan: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:List of heads of government who were later imprisoned]] 

message: I see many Regional Government head of executives. I ask for a decision about them, in my opinion their inclusion it is not pertinent.Consbuonomo (talk) 07:51, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Nation States?

message: I may be mistaken, but why are executions listed? Technically, executing someone doesn't qualify as imprisonment. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Executions? 

message: Mexico is in N America not S America. 73.25.160.47 (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed this error too with the Central American countries, as the North America section only lists the Caribbean countries and the Caribbean British Overseas Territories, and probably Canada and the US too, but no Canadian prime ministers nor US Presidents have ever been imprisoned (although Donald Trump is getting close to imprisonment for treason). I'll fix this issue soon though. BlakeIsHereStudios (talk) 14:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic error 

message: As the page lists both heads of state and heads of government, we should rename the page to "List of heads of state & government who were later imprisoned", or if we add leaders who were imprisoned before taking office, just "List of heads of state & government who were imprisoned". BlakeIsHereStudios (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename the page 

message: It needs to be noted that Central American countries should not be listed in the South American category. They are, in fact, part of North America. 76.113.17.70 (talk) 14:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography 

message: Nicola Sturgeon has not been imprisoned.   She has not even been charged with any offence. 94.175.155.100 (talk) 21:26, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: She was imprisoned when she was arrested (house arrested). 213.177.132.14 (talk) 06:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree entirely - that's not what house arrest means.  No imprisonment took place. Cameronbell76 (talk) 17:07, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicola Sturgeon 

message: Quite the rogues gallery but there are a few problems. Nicola Sturgeon was arrested but not charged. If she is to be included, Donald Trump should be also. Burke and O'Connor were first ministers in state governments. If heads of sub-governments are to be included, the list is going to be several times longer. E.g. Rob Blagojevich, former governor of Illinois. WmDKing (talk) 08:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criteria needs to be tightened