Talk:Rottnest Island

message: NPOV is required in this article, it reads with too many superlatives, and it is not a travel article!
"happy and fun experience!" is not a style to be 
encouraged. There are better ways of putting it.
User:JarrahTree 05:19, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comment

message: Needs separate article, 'List of Cottage Names on Rottnest' with them in alpha order, otherwise difficult to follow while still in this state in this art.   User:JarrahTree 15:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cottage Names

message: The new List is List of features on Rottnest Island, please check the alpha order and completeness of the lists, thank you!  User:JarrahTree 13:03, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I presume you mean List of features of Rottnest Island, but I have to ask: is this really necessary?  Couldn't we just add the main features into the main article? -- Ian ≡ talk 15:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Please Help

message: Note commercial links are not part of the main text of article. User:JarrahTree 12:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: This doesn't particularly fit here, imho.
Rottnest is not the only place for crays, amateur or commercial (it's of little significance to the commercial fishery).
Stories about crayfishing and the season should be added to Western rock lobster, if attested.
The list of recreation on Rotto should certainly include diving & snorkelling, but also cycling, swimming, offshore surfing, reef fishing etc.
The channel swim seems much more significant than what Gage Roads Brewing do as a promo.
: The above anonymous comments were posted by user:Callophylla, before I knew how to sign. Callophylla 08:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crayfish 

message: Removed the 'unique feature' part of the caption on the Salt Lake picture, as Rotto is hardly the only island in the world with interior salt lakes. -- Ghostreveries 10:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salt Lakes 

message: The section "Australian places named by Dutch explorers in the 17th Century" seems unnecessary for an entry about a single geographical location. Peewee2007 (talk) 03:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, probably. It is called a navigation box; it allows you to navigate between allegedly related articles. They are all the rage ATM. :-( Hesperian 03:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian places named by Dutch explorers in the 17th Century 

message: The Aboriginal Prison entry is incomplete and misleading.
I propose it be replaced with the following:
From 1838 to 1931, Rottnest Island was an Aboriginal prison for 3700 men and boys from all parts of Western Australia. At least 370 Aboriginal prisoners are buried in unmarked graves next to The Quod in the former Tentland tourist campsite. Five Aboriginal men were hanged in the Quod courtyard. Hundreds more died of disease, malnutrition and prison beatings in tiny overcrowded stone cells now used for premium-priced tourist accommodation. Most of the island's historic Settlement - including Government House (Hotel Rottnest), the Church, Salt Store, Museum & Gift Shop, original waterfront cottages and The Quod itself - was built by forced Aboriginal prison labour working under extremely harsh conditions. See also Wadjemup; Neville Green & Susan Moon "Far From Home - Aboriginal Prisoners of Rottnest Island", University of Western Australia .
Williewagtail (talk) 05:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done:  is not required for edits to  unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Please make the edit yourself. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: new comment

message: A recent (2013) John Pilger article supports that above suggestion.  In fact, his writing suggests the situation was if anything worse than noted above:
John Pilger article
What was done was the torture, humiliation and murder of the First Australians. Wrenched from their communities in an insidious genocide that divided and emasculated the indigenous nations, shackled men and boys as young as eight endured the perilous nine-hour journey in an open longboat. Cold, sick and terrified prisoners were jammed into a windowless "holding cell", like an oversized kennel. Today, an historical plaque refers to it as The Boathouse. The suppression is breathtaking.
In the prison known as The Quod, as many as 167 Aboriginal prisoners were locked in 28 tiny cells. This lasted well into the twentieth century. I booked a room there. The prison is now called Rottnest Lodge. It has a spa and there are double bunks for children: family fun. Noel Nannup stood in the centre of the room and described its echoes of terrible suffering. The window looked out on where a gallows had stood, where tourists now sunbathed. None had a clue. A "country club" overlooks a mass grave. A psychopath who ran the Quod was Henry Vincent, who liked to whip prisoners and murdered two of them, an inquiry was told. Today, Vincent is venerated as a "pioneer" and tourists are encouraged to follow the "Vincent Way Heritage Trail". In the Governor's Bar, the annual Henry Vincent Golf Trophy is displayed. No one there had a clue.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.232.250.50 (talk) 17:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Pilger 

message: Trips out to Rottnest Island (don't let the name put you off, its quite friendly place as a side note) is a MUST as this is what a lot of people do when they come to Perth so I think that fact should be included in the article. Also Rottnest Island is one of the most isolated inhabited islands in the world I think that should be in the article also hehehehe 118.209.46.14 (talk) 20:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it isolated?  Fremantle is 18km away.  Tristan da Cunha in the South Atlantic Ocean, is 2,816 km from South Africa. Refer Extreme_points_of_Earth#Remoteness.  –Moondyne 00:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ofc Freo' is 18km away, why would I say that Perth tourists have a trip out to Rottnest? Duh!! 118.209.3.187 (talk) 09:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to Perth Tourism 

message: Is the Winnit Club a significant/notable organisation on the Island? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:06, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winnit Club 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the section 'Aboriginal Prison' there is an ambiguity. Herre is the text:
"A quadrangular building was constructed in 1863–1864 and generally referred to as "the Quod"; it was used until 2018 for tourist accommodation.[20] There were about twenty prisoners there in 1844; by 1880, there were 170. Vincent retired in 1867 after complaints regarding cruelty to prisoners; he was replaced by William Jackson. In the early 1880s, an influenza epidemic struck, killing about sixty inmates."
Herein lies the ambiguity: were there 20 prisoners in general on Rottnest in 1844? Or were there 20 prisoners in the quadrangular building in 18SIXTY-four. ie is the date given correct?
If the former might I suggest a clarification, to read: "In 1844 there about twenty prisoners on Rottnest in total. By 1880, this had swelled to 170." 
If the latter, then a change to "There were about twenty prisoners housed in the quadrangular building in 1864" would be in order.
Koryushka (talk) 02:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

message: regarding these edits:  ...
The name Wadjemup is in use today  to refer to the island , whereas t Eylandt 't Rottenest is not used (other being mentioned as the name given by de Vlamingh). Thus the former (a "significant alternative name") ought to be listed as a synonym in the lead, per MOS:BOLDALTNAMES, whereas the latter need not.
 Agreed - it makes much more sense to use Wadjemup as the significant alternative name. It is used in many contexts as the alternative name for Rottnest. http://inherit.stateheritage.wa.gov.au/Public/Inventory/PrintSingleRecord/4c2a567b-d2ca-40f4-8687-8f5c22cfcf6d
't Eylandt 't Rottenest' is the first name by which the island became known to the world. It was used extensively throughout the world until it was culturally appropriated approximately a century later by the British. The name 't Eylandt 't Rottenest' is, however, of great relevance and historical interest as it reflects the pioneering explorations of Nieuw Holland (renamed 'Western Australia' by the British) by mariners from the Netherlands. The name 't Eylandt 't Rottenest', therefore, warrants being prominently displayed in the lead as, in addition to being the actual/non-Anglicized name of the island, it provides Wiki users with highly relevant insight and broad historical context regarding the exploration and mapping of Australia's entire west coast.Simulaun (talk) 01:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The historical context of 't Eylandt 't Rottenest' is why it is mentioned in the intro and the history section, but there is no indication that it is used at all as the actual name of the island and is still currently relevant. Wadjemup is in current use as the significant alternative name of Rottnest Island and so warrants inclusion as the synonym in the lead. The Logical Positivist (talk) 02:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wadjemup or t Eylandt 't Rottenest 

message: , re  - the reference clearly says "European", not "people" (including those who were not European). Please don't remove "European" from the article unless you can provide a reference that says no non-Europeans landed before them. Mitch Ames (talk) 06:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First European people 

message: in the drop down info summary of the article is says rottnest is part of the city of cockburn, but later in the introduction it says it is not part of any LGAs. none of the cited links in regards to it being part of cockburn LGA lead to anything actually saying it, and i'm also fairly certain it's simply not the case? Ames171 (talk) 11:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGA cockburn contradiction