Talk:Sidecar (cocktail)

message: Showing usage in popular culture constitutes context, not "trivia." Therefore, I am deleting the warning.75.57.70.202 (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not trivia

message: As noted in the article there are some principal variants, including substitutes for cognac. From my own experience, the proportions can't be fixed independently of the actual ingredients. For example, if you use triple sec or curacao instead of Cointreau (all three are orange liqueurs), you can make a perfectly fine sidecar but the alternative orange liqueurs are less rich than Cointreau and you might scale up the proportion just a bit or be prepared for a slightly less sweet tasting drink. I also think the proportions as given in ratios such as 9:1 and 6:1 are difficult to implement, so as a practical matter here is what I do: 2 oz. brandy, 1 oz. orange liqueur, 1/2 oz. fresh lemon juice (1/2 a squeezed lemon). (If you prefer a somewhat drier version, increase the amt. of brandy. 3 oz./1 oz./.5 oz. makes fine (and large) sidecar.) In any case, I think the "golden ratio" of 2 to 1 to ½ works very well for a margarita as well (tequila, Cointreau, lime juice). Just my opinion.~Mack2~ (talk) 15:28, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And for another variation on this tripartite cocktail, you can make a "Frisco". Use staight American (bourbon) whiskey or rye, substitute Benedictine for the Cointreau. Otherwise, stick with the 2/1/½ formula: bourbon, Benedictine, lemon juice.~Mack2~ (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I agree that a little less brandy is usually better, given common ingredients. I actually took a couple nights to do a "binary search" on the ingredient ratios, and I found that 1.25 brandy, 1 lemon juice, .75 triple sec is excellent, for my taste. Most bars make it the standard way from the article, and it's just too sweet and alcoholic, but the above ratio is delicious. I don't have a reference for it though.Dreadengineer (talk) 12:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Variations

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