Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Archive 6

message: Where can I find the newest version of the software? --D-Day What up? Am I cool, or what? 13:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try looking here. Hope that helps. SeventyThree(Talk) 14:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It did. Thanks! --D-Day What up? Am I cool, or what? 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newest version 

message: Does anyone who edits Pokémon-related articles have the autowikibrowser, I really need help. I Love Minun (talk) 18:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you wish to do? I might be willing to help. --mboverload@ 23:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokemon trobule 

message: Hi. Can we eliminate the "No category" and "Multiple wiki-links" messages when the page in question is a talk page? They rarely need a category, and frequently have many links to the same user pages. bd2412 T 01:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reconsidered this request and realized that it has no effect on performance, so ought not be bothered with. bd2412 T 05:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No cat tag for talk pages 

message: Try to Edit This page with AWB
LOL--E-Bod 03:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? nothing happens. Martin 08:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well when I try to edit it it mistakes the prank on the top of the pages is treated as a New message and so i get that new message pop-up.
By the way is there a way to change the spacing of elements on the page. I have my Computer set to display text and other elements large. I did this because I used to set my computer at a lower resolution because I liked the larger stuff. Then i got annoyed everything was fuzzy so I put my computer at full resolution and went into preferences to make all the Elements as big as they were at the lower resolution. However this cases the Bottom (1)(2)(3) steps bar to take up half the screen and the New message.
Part of the message is cut off and i cant actually see the buttons. I can either press enter for IE or tab and then enter for FireFox but i can't actually click the button because the window size is locked. 
I would really appreciate it if the Field bars were movable. I like the dividers that you can click in the middle and chose the size. The pop-ups should also be re sizable. Anything that is not re sizable displays cutoff on my computer.--E-Bod 05:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bug 

message: I just found a reason not to put some stub tags at the bottom of the article. Take a look at :Category:Quebec airport stubs under the section S. Some of the "St" are in the correct place as "Saint" but the others are listed at "St". The ones in the wrong place are the ones I updated, while the correct ones I didn't do yet. It's minor but is something that other anal editors like me should be aware of. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quite sure what you mean, how does the position of a stub affect its category sorting? Martin 14:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to :Category:Quebec airport stubs and look at where St-Anselme Airport is in the list. Open it and move the stub tag above the Category tags and save. Reload the Quebec airport stubs and see where St-Anselme Airport is now listed. Ignore the Saint Anselme Airport as I was trying that to force sorting. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh right, I see, because it has the stub tag and the stub category. You can put a sort key in the stub template directly, as demonstrated by :Template:Hndis, I don't know why stubs don't all use this by default, I suppose probably because people arent that concerned with stub categories. Martin 15:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re:[[Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Querying category/stub order apparently used by AWB as default|stub order apparently used by AWB as default]], etc

message: I notice that an alert is given if the article is long and has a stub tag. Would it be possible to have an alert if the article is short and does not have a stub tag? Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It automatically adds a generic stub tag to very short articles. Martin 14:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Feature request for stubs

message: Can anyone tell me what this means, please:
 System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: StartIndex cannot be less than zero.
 Parameter name: startIndex
  at System.String.InternalSubStringWithChecks(Int32 startIndex length, Boolean fAlwaysCopy)
  at AutoWikiBrowser.MainForm.GetCatArticles(String PageText)
  at AutoWikiBrowser.MainForm.webBrowser4_DocumentCompleted(Object, sender,
 WebBrowserDocumentCompletedEventArgs e)
This is the message I get when trying to make a cat list, then after it says "There was a problem making the list"??? Craigy (talk) 23:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It means there is a bug in the software, probably caused by the page not loading properly. It will probably work if you clear your IE cache and try again. I am also overhauling the listing mechanism anyway. Martin 08:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem

message: Im having trouble downloading the .Net framework, can someone tell me what to do I Love Minun (talk) 12:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  .NET Framework 

message: Is it possible to order pages by size? Right now, the only ordering schemes possible are the default age-of-page, and alphabetical. bd2412 T 05:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The size of the page is not known until it is edited, so it is not really possible. Martin 08:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus once you load an article, you might as well edit it. --mboverload@ 09:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested option - order by size 

message: Are we able to use AWB on alternative wiki sites?
I know with it being on the GPL and the sources are avaliable, im presuming we can if alter it ourselves, we can?
Cheers
Reedy Boy 14:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It mostly works on a number of wikimedia sites, I imagine you could adapt it to work on other sites as well, particularly ones that use the mediawiki software. Martin 16:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, im just presuming its just a case of being registered on the particular wikimedia site. Luckily, the site does use teh media wiki software. Just going to pull the source from the CVS and have a look. Cheers Reedy Boy 16:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is there a zipped version of the source avaliable to download from anywhere? As it is a bit of pain getting each file manually! Thanks Reedy Boy 16:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not at present, when it stops being rapidly developed I will probably do that. Martin 16:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Fair enough. Cheers, Reedy Boy 19:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using AWB on other wiki sites 

message: Why does AWB remove the  code when using the apply general fixes function? And when moving the text, e.g. stub tags, it should recognize that they're being inside . Thanks. -Eleassar my talk 10:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean in your first question, AWB does not remove  code, as for commented out stubs, there is a slight complication, but I'll try and avoid commented out text in the same way as it ignores text in <nowiki> tags. Martin 11:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: That is because many of the general fixes functions were not designed to work outside of the english wp, as it says when you change the language. Hopefully in the future this will change. Martin 14:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That said, it will be fixed in the next version. Martin 15:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki><!-- --></nowiki>

message: G. I. Gurdjieff this diff I unintentionally removed – — and replaced them with entities which seem to render as squares on IE and not at all on Firefox. "Unicodify whole article" is on. Is it AWB doing this, and if so is it a bug? Rich Farmbrough 16:17 13 June 2006 (GMT).
:Ok, will be fixed, thanks. Martin 16:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Html entities? Me or AWB

message: The translate these variables for wiki:pt:
          strlangcode = "pt";
          strcategoryns = "Categoria:";
          strtemplatens = "Predefinição:";
          struserns = "Usuário:";
          strimagens = "Imagem:";
          strtalkns = " discussão:";
          strarticletalkns = "Discussão:";
          strspecialns = "Especial:";
          strportalns = "Portal:";
          strmediawikins = "MediaWiki:";
          strnext200 = "próximos 200";
          strsummarytag = " utilizando AWB";
thanks. Rei-artur 23:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: wiki:pt

message: Hi,
Would it be possible to have AWB organise categories into alphabetical order? As it would look better on articles.
I have put it on SF, but there has been no comment
Reedy Boy 15:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a comment, it says It previously had this feature, but it became apparent that many editors like to sort categories by importance rather than the alphabet.. Martin 15:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was quick. Ah, right, ok. No point changing them for them to be changed back. Fair enough. Cheers Reedy Boy 15:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Ordering 

message: Is it possible for the AWB to edit only the section with the change to be made, rather than the whole document (presuming only one section will require an edit)? bd2412 T 03:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I suppose nothing is impossible, but it would be quite complicated, and make the software quite a bit slower. Martin 12:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I ask because I occasionally use the software to leave notices on talk pages, but the edit will not save if a banned spam link appears anywhere on the page (such as a link to the webpage on which a banned editor keeps a watchlist of Wikipedians). As an alternative, how about automatically breaking banned links? bd2412 T 13:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section edit? 

message: I just tried to download the newest update, but when I tried to extract the files, it said it was password protected. How do I avoid this? --D-Day What up? Am I cool, or what? 19:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just downloaded AutoWikiBrowser3004.zip from sourceforge and could extract and run that. No request for a password appeared. So: works for me. Did you try to repeat the download? Maybe trying a different sourceforge files mirror? (the list of mirrors is displayed right before the download begins).--Ligulem 21:33, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Password 

message: Can we get AWB to stop converting emdash and endash to – and —? They look so similar in the edit box, and most people are used to seeing &emdash and &endash anyway, it doesn't really make a difference if they stay. —Mets501 (talk) 03:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: AWB specifically does not convert these, unless they are in links (because then they get found by wikipedia:Bad links). Martin 10:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm...OK. Maybe when I saw it, it was for a link. Thanks. —Mets501 (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  emdash, endash 

message: Any ideas why AWB removed Davidson, Jaye from Jaye Davidson ? Can't see it should just remove catagories, unless there is a category above it, or a sub category somewhere.... Any ideas? Reedy Boy 22:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just ran it again on the article, but it didnt this time... Reedy Boy 22:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a duplicate category. Martin 08:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange AWB Remove 

message: There was made a translation for the Dutch Wikipedia (some subjects above). However there is a little error in it:
 strtalkns = " overleg:";
must be:
 strtalkns = "Overleg ";
We are using it as a prefix instead of a suffix. But for the rest, it is a perfect alternative for a normal bot with it's primitive user interface, go on with the good work. JePe 14:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation nl.wikipedia 

message: Could AWB possibly be changed to check if the current version is enabled at startup? I've just got all my parameters set up for an AWB run only to discover that my version doesn't work. A bit of a pain really :) --kingboyk 10:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can save all the settings, so they don't need to be entered again. Martin 11:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Checking version 

message: Is there a way for Find and Replace to have only some of the words be regex, and others not? —Centrx→talk • 04:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Ligulem has made a control that does this, and will hopefully be integrated in the near future. Martin 09:45, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting regex's from non-regex's 

message: I haven't used the feature very recently, as StubSense has been down for a while, but it used to be the case that AWB processed "text file" links of the form: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/queries/stub_sense?category=ice+hockey+biography+stubs&num_pages=4000&dbname=enwiki&template=Slovakia-bio-stub&AWB=.txt. This no longer seems to work in 3.0.0.5: I get an error message repeating the address, and "The above file name is invalid". Has support for this feature disappeared, or is some tweak to how it's entered required? (Still works if the output from the above is saved to a file and then loaded into AWB, btw.) Alai 03:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm that was unexpected, fix will be in next release. thanks Martin 08:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And thank you. Alai 15:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  StubSense support bit-rotted? 

message: Could somebody explain to me how I'm supposed to set up the scripts? Please respond on my talk page.--Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 16:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no scripts, it is an executable created around the .NET framework. Martin 17:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Scripts may not be the most correct terminology, but to use settings such as those found at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Scripts, copy the relevant text to a file on your computer, such as "mboverload.xml", then load up AWB, go to File->Load settings and find that file you just created. —Centrx→talk • 06:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to use scripts? 

message: These are screenshots from the latest dev build! Awesome.
*Opening IR_ M___TOR =D
*The main window
*Surprise 1
*Surprise 2
*Surprise 3
*Surprise 4
*Surprise 5!
--mboverload@ 05:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm normally not bragging with what I do for Wikipedia. But just for the records: The new find and replace control is from MWB. Done by me. The newest version of this on MWB even has hierarchical rules using a tree control . Sorry for the self ad. But my somewhat controversial fork at least has brought something for AWB. Feel free to merge from MWB into AWB whatever you see fit. That's the idea behind open source. And thanks to all for letting me doing that fork. I can better try out new stuff there without disturbing Martin on AWB. --Ligulem 07:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh shit, sorry I forgot to mention that. User:bookofjude told me but I forgot to include that fact. Sorry! =D --mboverload@ 08:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. I just felt that it might help to explain a bit what I do on my evil fork ;). --Ligulem 08:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The screenshots are possibly not very helpful, as I'm never sure what features will make it into the next release, the IRC monitor thing is a whole separate piece of software, its just in the menu as a preview. Hopefully it will eventually get the VandalProof type features of reverting/warning etc. I have to say though, having your watchlist monitored live is very cool! Martin 08:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Martin, what is your vision for this functionality? Are you planning on challenging VandalProof for the role of defacto antivandalism tool, or at least take part of its marketshare? --mboverload@ 08:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: lol, well I don't really gain much from market share, and to be honest I haven't used VandalProof, but from what I can see it looks like it would gain a lot from using the IRC feed. At the moment this program doesnt even do the same thing as VandalProof, as it doesnt have any of the stuff to rollback, however it will do soon hopefully. Of course anyone is welcome to help in its construction. Martin 08:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Looking at this new version, all I can say is WOW! It looks really impressive. I think that the revert functionality like VP is really a great idea. So yeah, very impressed. Alphachimp talk 02:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Next release FEATURE PREVIEW 

message: The "Ignore non-existent pages" option also ignores pages which exist, but are blank. Not sure if this is intentional – Gurch 12:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ignore non-existent pages" 

message: Howdy there. I just registered for this software and got approved, and I downloaded it and the application won't run at all. When I double-click on it I get a message saying "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application." My computer's a Window's XP, so it seems like it should work. I installed the Microsoft .Net framework, and still no go. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance. Ben Tibbetts 00:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That error occurs when the .NET framework isnt installed, make sure you have version 2. Martin 08:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you; it's fixed. I thought I had installed it when I ran the downloaded program, but I hadn't properly done so and so the .Net framework wasn't actually on the computer. Much obliged! Ben Tibbetts 17:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem opening application 

message: When will AWB start working on Internet Explorer 7? I've been waiting for this for quite a while, since all my operating systems run IE7. — Alex (T|C|E) 08:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First thing is to wait until it is released officially, then I need to track down what is different about it. Martin 10:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should remove the advice for downloading IE7 on AWB's page... It's misleading. — Alex (T|C|E) 22:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows Internet Explorer 7 bug 

message: Is it possible to do that? Instead of having to press ignore, as when you are only doing basic changes, and there is nothing to do, it would be better if we didnt have to click ignore if we didnt want to do it.
Reedy Boy 17:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In case you didn't know: In menu "General", checkmark the entry "Skip articles with no changes". Consider scanning an articledump with the DumpSearcher (built into AWB) if your hit rate is very low and or your list very long. --Ligulem 18:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooops. Thanks, never noticed that. With teh dumps, does it work offline, then search online if there are any changes and apply them? Which do we download? Or is it all of em? Reedy Boy 20:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See User:Bluemoose/DataBaseSearchTool (Kudos to Martin for providing that). A dump is a snapshot of the top versions of articles/templates. The dump must be downloaded and can then be searched locally on your computer for articles that match some criteria. This produces a list of articlenames, which can then be fed into AWB. You can also ask someone who already has downloaded a recent dump to do a search for you. Martin has offered to do that in the past. My most recent dump I have locally is from 2006-05-18. I could do a search for you on that. Maybe Martin or somebody else has a newer dump. Drop me a note on my talk if you want me to do a search on 2006-05-18. Downloading a dump is about 40..50 minutes for me. --Ligulem 20:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Option to skip if no changes found? 

message: How do I make a spamlist, like the wikipedia signpost? How do they do it? I'm going to be launching my spellchecker script and I'll do weekly mailing to remind people about updates. --mboverload@ 09:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This might be my personal (bad?) taste, but I find these periodic serial additions of the same wiki-text to a whole list of user's talk pages a bit odd. Wouldn't it suffice to have your clients watch a page themselves? Or do it via template inclusion? Or have a good old email mailing list? --Ligulem 09:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm perfectly open to discussion, so thanks. Yes, I have been thinking about that. I would much perfer to contact them via email but that's kind of a touchy subject. And I know I can go 2 months without running CCleaner because I just forget...I don't know what to do. --mboverload@ 09:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The list would be made like any other (e.g. load it up from a text file or a wiki page or even a category, though these would have to be populated first) however i agree that simply watching the page would be better (less effort, less bandwidth etc.). Out of interest, how many people actually use your settings file? Martin 12:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do. Religiously. If at all possible, MBOverload, please spam me. Alphachimp talk 13:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Martin, I can't exactly get a hitcounter, but a link to it is on about 7,000 edits in the summary =P --mboverload@ 09:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I make a spamlist?