Talk:Salem, Ohio

message: I emailed one of the Columbiana County Commissioners. I doubt they're going to check it what with the Holiday but I'm fairly Certain that once a Village reaches City Status They tend to sever their ties to the township . mostly to stop having to share property taxes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Captainkang (talk • contribs) 17:52, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Salem Politically separate from Perry Township? 

message: Text was added: "they do vote in municipal elections."  To whom and to what does this refer?  No citation was given, so it is even more difficult to decipher the meaning and importance of adding this text.  Green Township residents do vote, but not for Mayor of Salem and other city officials . . . .  Green Township is a big place, and the text about its residents might not even be relevant for an article on Salem, Ohio, n'est pas?--BFDhD 16:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who votes in what municipal elections? 

message: The Information on Green and Perry Townships seems irrelevant. while it's nice they have a trustee system the only thing that seems to pertain to Salem, Ohio is that the City at some point annexed land from unincorporated areas of those townships.
If I read the annexation information correctly then salem's borders now are past Columbiana county and extend into Mahoning County. why is this such an issue? if the borders extend past the county line then it's in two counties. 
maybe a revision is in order.Captainkang 19:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You must forgive me for being direct, but you did not read the annexation information correctly, which may not be truly your fault, as the listed links on this page pertain to incontextual slices of information and do not include any records from the County or State offices, let alone any citations from any of the local media (Salem News, Morning Journal, East Liverpool Review or any local television reports).  Salem city is still a separate entity, and its residents are the ones who are governed by the city's Mayor, represented by its city council, and pay its residential income taxes.  I agree that the Green and Perry and Salem Township information should not be in this article, but it nonetheless does verify - from the State Auditor's office, no less - that the suppositions that Salem is bi-county (it is not) and all of the other presumptions about Perry, Salem, and Green Township residents being subject to Salem city's governances and tax provisions (they are not) were all incorrect.  The fact remains: Salem is a city, and the surrounding lands might have some waste and fire protections, but they are not part of the city.  The city itself is squarely within the boundaries of Columbiana county, and that is the issue at hand in this article's so-called  controversy. The City of Salem is not in Mahoning County, and Mahoning County does not claim that the city of Salem is part of its jurisdiction.  That much can be verified by reviewing the Mahoning County government web site . . . or even city-data.com.  This article, however, remains about Salem city, its boundaries, its demographics, its governance, and its history, and the city is not  "bi-county."  In a funny way, you're absolutely right - this article does have "way too much information about everything BUT the city of Salem, Ohio" - because the boundaries of the city of Salem itself do not include portions of those three townships, something overwhelmingly verified by the three documents from the State Auditor's office.
I'm curious -- if municipal election results list tallies IN Green Township and Salem Township, and if those residents really are voting in a Salem municipal election, how are they not officially residents of Salem?  I'm really just asking out of my own curiosity, because I know I've read several articles in local media covering these elections that list vote counts (even if there are just two or three votes) from these townships.  It would lead me to believe that the city's boundaries are spilling into Green Township.  Right?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.104.156 (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has way too much information about everything BUT the city of Salem, Ohio 

message: I don't see how Salem was formed ,who formed it,and who the founders are ? Whomever wrote this did not do a very good job. I just would like to know the history of the city. I can care less about walmart,annexing,what a township offers (and Green township's services are operated by Beloit Village,under green twn. trustees). Maybe someone should get a hold of a city office or an historyen to get this updated. (besides I have a road atlise 2007,that shows Salem Mkharahuc 11:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: History section added. (By the way, please remember to keep your comments civil (no insults, please!) in the future.)--BFDhD 19:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the history of Salem ? 

message: There were several problems in the section labeled "Geography".  Firstly, some of the citations used referred to dead links.  Which brings me to the second problem:  I removed these, because I have no reason to trust that these citations bolster the inaccurate claims held forth by the editor(s).  The claim that annexation was done "for census purposes" is not credible without convincing sources; an auditor's report (even if available, which this wasn't) would not generally indicate this.  Moreover, the implication that residents of the annexed parts of Green and Salem townships are somehow not residents of the City of Salem is in direct contravention of Ohio law.  I highly doubt that the Ohio State Auditor would make the claim that annexation means something other than what is prescribed in the Ohio Revised Code. -- JeffBillman (talk) 02:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with "Geography" section dealing with annexations