Talk:Custer's Revenge

message: "In this game it is the "woman" who has to overcome various obstacles to have hot sex with "Custer"—who this time is the one tied to the post. Instead of arrows, cannon balls are fired at the woman. General Retreat has often been hailed as the better of the two versions, featuring slightly less questionable material."
Slightly less questionable material? What material? I doubt that the cannon balls vs. arrows aren't "less questionable", so does this imply that it's less questionable if a woman have sex/rape someone? The text should be more clear.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ran4 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the text you bring to discussion is very clear. The author considers a woman raping a man is less questionble than a man raping a woman, which is a double standard. Aside from documentation of double standarts, I don't think Wikipedia should spread that as if it was neutral. 70.30.185.78 (talk) 22:56, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  On General Retreat being less offensive 

message: In the description of the game, I replaced the word "rape" with "intercourse" or "sexual intercourse". There was no indication in the game or manual that it was supposed to be rape, that was an interpretation by critics, as stated clearly in the article:
The game prompted criticism from women's rights groups who stated that the simulation of having sex with a tied-up woman was a simulation of rape.
This sentence does not make sense if the description already talks about rape. — Graf Bobby 00:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Referring to the actions in the game as "sexual intercourse" rather than "rape" is an awesome example of WP:WEASEL.  Nearly every third party commentator viewed the game as depicting rape.  I've added a couple of citations to that effect.  Nandesuka 15:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sexual intercourse would be correct. Large masses does not equal NPOV.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ran4 (talk • contribs) 19:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Replaced "rape" with "(sexual) intercourse"

message: If so, it would make an interesting contrast to AO games that are refused licensing. Tehw1k1 17:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Atari didn't license games. This was something introduced later on by Nintendo to control content on their consoles (and to make money). I imagine the wave of adult games for the 2600 helped them come to that decision, though. -- MisterHand 18:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I suspected. I guess that means third parties just figured out how to manufacture Atari carts all on their own? Tehw1k1 07:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  was this game licensed by Atari? 

message: By all accounts, Custer's Revenge is a horrible game that would have largely been forgotten by now had it not been for the controversy it created. Mystique, it's publisher, had forged a place for itself as developers of erotic software. The little fold out that comes with the game reads, "Until Mystique, video games have been considered by many to be "child's play"... we at Mystique feel that it's time for video games and their adult players to come out of the closet, away from the kids and deal with ADULT fantasies."
Of course, from a design and ethical perspective, what Custer got completely wrong was that it's just not okay to tie a woman to a post and have the in-game avatar rape that character as a "prize." It's probably one of the bigger, "What were you thinking?" moments in video game history.
Mystique also produced other less controversial adult titles, all of which have now been largely forgotten.
http://www.igda.org/sex/archives/2005/09/link_of_the_day_33.html.Albion moonlight 09:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Brief Critique and the external link it came from 

message: My opinion on the game is unsatisfying, The graphics and content toward the game are pathetic. Theres nothing good in this game at all. The only good thing is that proper warnings have been placed on the box art to prevent users from approaching the game. Ironically, its prematurly released and rejeculated(lol) due to the fact it was probably released too early and rejected for its overly below graphic content and such. Davidzx 01:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The graphics are terrible but the gameplay is wicked, lol! Anyhow, let's consitrate on fixing this article. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  comment 

message: The last deletion, of a claim that the game was sold from behind the counter or removed from stores, strikes me as bizarre for three reasons.  It was tagged already for a cite, which was appropriate.  It's not hard to believe that it would be sold from behind the counter or pulled from stores, since adult material often is.  Finally, calling thirty words or so "long" makes me wonder if some people might be happier watching Teletubbies than trying to write an encyclopedia. Anyhow, I'll try to add some more sources to the article, which is what the person who deleted the material should have done rather than delete the material. Шизомби (Sz) (talk) 14:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions 

message: Because General Custer was a military man.--ILoveSky (talk) 01:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added "military" as a genre 

message: According to the article, Custer's Revenge retailed at $49.95. That would equal to about $122 in today's dollars. For its time, I don't know any game more expensive than it. If there is, please name one. 98.119.155.81 (talk) 04:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much definite. With the exception of Virtua Racing, what could be more expensive? 208.54.4.133 (talk) 15:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide a reliable source stating that this was indeed the most expensive game at the time, and I will stop reverting.--Asher196 (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are some users such sticklers on this "source" thing? 173.55.37.52 (talk) 15:25, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Without reliable sources, editors could simply make up information.--Asher196 (talk) 16:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any reason to doubt the idea besides the citation concern. 172.56.17.180 (talk) 15:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most expensive game at the time? 

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message: "Activists tried pressuring legislators to outlaw the game, which Oklahoma City, Oklahoma did.[8]" I don't have access to the source given, but this has got to be an exaggeration. I don't see how an individual city could "outlaw" anything. They might have banned local stores from selling the game, I suppose, but that's hardly the same thing as "outlawing" it. Jah77 (talk) 14:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Outlawed"? 

message: Should the objective of this game really be described as rape? I agree that many people looked at it that way and that criticism should be included. But it doesn't seem like the creators intended it as a simulation of rape. From the game manual, "So press it over and over again as rapidly as you can. Watch how the maiden smiles and kicks up her heels and Custer 'flips his lid'." It seems like the objective of the game should just be described as having sex with the maiden, not raping her. I'm open to evidence that the devs intended a more malicious objective but I don't the sourcing on the page adequate prove that. ― TaltosKieronTalk 21:47, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rape?