Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland/Archive 1

message: I'd like to help.  I'm still a wiki novice, but I'm a competent writer and copyeditor.  Dppowell 18:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome! Help however you'd like! -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volunteers 

message: Is it intended that the project's style manual will differ significantly from Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles)?  Dppowell 22:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How so? -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that the creation of a style manual for this project was one of the goals; I saw that an Ireland related style manual already existed, and wondered whether we would adopt that, modify it or do something entirely separate. Dppowell 18:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Against a new manual of style; just integrate the one that exists. Djegan 20:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manual of style 

message: A template on the ICOTW page says it's inactive and only kept for historical interest, yet it's front and center on the WikiProject Ireland page.  Should we remove the inactive tag?   Dppowell 16:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is ICOTW active? Or is it superceded in some way by WikiProject Ireland? -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that was more or less my question, since we've got the banner at the top of the project page. :)  Dppowell 18:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ICOTW 

message: I've added this to the Ireland project, as its sister article Flag of Scotland is listed in the Scotland project.  A goal would be to get the articles of Saint Patrick's Flag and the Flag of Scotland to look somewhat similar in format.  --Dulcimerist 02:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. We need to get an image for the Lighthouses, too, since the one we had is apparently deleted. -- Evertype·✆ 17:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What lighthouses? I have done some work on Lighthouses in Ireland and some of the individual articles. ww2censor 05:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Saint Patrick's Flag]] 

message: Mary I of England is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy (Talk) 02:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mary I of England]]

message: I'd like to nominate the goal of getting History of Ireland up to "good article" status as a prelude to a nomination for Featured Article. Dppowell 18:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Ireland 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 17:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Working on these, but may be in a bit over my head as I seem to be making a lot of mistakes.  --Kathryn NicDhàna 02:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: Another editor has applied a  tag to Ballybeg, County Waterford. Please take a look at the article and improve it if possible. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 14:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure it shouldn't be deleted, to be honest. It seems to have been created exclusively for the purpose of being offensive, and even if that were not the case, do housing developments really need their own articles?  I vote no, unless there's something unique about them.Dppowell 04:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ballybeg, County Waterford]] 

message: Celtic Tiger is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy (Talk) 17:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Celtic Tiger]]

message: I've just looked around for a history of the Norman Conquest of Ireland / Norman Invasion of Ireland.  There is an article on Norman Ireland and a rough list of Norman officers for the Invasion under the article, Norman Invasion of Ireland, but no actual history of the even itself.
Has this been mentioned before?  Anybody able to help begin a more proper article on the Invasion?  Comments? --sony-youth 18:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay ... I've hobbled something together, mainly form the Norman Ireland article, but at least it forms a basis for future development. Will look into researching more. --sony-youthtalk 13:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norman Conquest of ireland 

message: James Joyce is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[James Joyce]]

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thread_title: [[James II of England]]

message: Order of St. Patrick is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 15:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Order of St. Patrick]]

message: Two other editors and I are trying to have a real, measured discussion about how to best acknowledge Ireland's historical & modern relationships with the term British Isles.  So far, it's just attracting IP trolls.  Anyone interested in kicking the topic around in a cool-headed manner?  Visit Talk:Ireland. Dppowell 14:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reconciling [[Ireland]] and [[British Isles]] in modern and historical contexts 

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Sandy (Talk) 02:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: I want to add to the Aoife MacMurrough article.  As far as I know she was burried inside Christ's Church but have never set foot in the pace and am not anywhere near Dublin anymore.  I know the tomb of Stongbow was destroy centuries ago (the one inside there is a fake), but don't know if Aoife's still exists.
Would it be possible could someone in Dublin to take a photo of the tombs? Preferable, an individual shot of each and a joint one. Also could you check out what inscriptions are about it - was Aoife's destroyed too? (Or was it ever there to begin with?) --sony-youthtalk 14:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer is not clear - the tomb now known as "Strongbow"'s but probably belonging to another early noble, is accompanied by a small tomb with rough carving, which could be Aoife's, or that of a page, or a child.  No one knows, and as the destruction and rebuilding happened long ago, followed by many other changes, we may never know. 195.96.72.22 10:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aoife and Strongbow photos from inside Christ's Church 

message: Is the coat of arms :Image:COA IRELAND.PNG free? It is based on another image that has been uploaded to Wikipedia as fair use (:Image:Ireland coa.png). --Eleassar my talk 14:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Coat of arms

message: Shall we make a Republic of Ireland portal? There's an Ireland as an island one and a North one, but none for the South. -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 21:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a guy at the Ireland portal that keeps reverting to the British imposed "St. Patricks cross" as the flag for Ireland which I find rather offensive. I changed it the other day to the tri-colour, the flag that best represents Ireland imo, some alternative on this on the related talk page at Portal:Ireland/Intro would be appreciated. -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 01:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portals 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: ...for this aincent (Literally, in more then one ways) image? 68.39.174.238 19:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there any use... 

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SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Henry VIII of England FAR

message: Hey. At WikiProject Rugby union, Brian O'Driscoll is now the collaboration of the fortnight. I looked at this project's collaboration page and was thinking about nominating the same article here. Unfortunately I'm not sure your collaboration page is still active! If any WikiProject Ireland members wish to help with the Brian O'Driscoll article it would be greatly appreciated. - Shudda talk 21:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brian O'Driscoll collaboration 

message: The category "Irish Scots" (i.e. Scots of recent Irish origin, rather than Scots-Irish is up for deletion - please see discussion 
 Here. --MacRusgail 18:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish-Scots up for deletion 

message: Another editor prodded the James McKeown (Sinn Fein) article, saying that the person was not notable. I wasn't sure, so I removed the , but perhaps someone reading this message might be able to expand the article (or to tag it as not notable, if you don't think that the article is worth keeping). The article Jack McKee about a council member in Larne also has a notability tag on it. Perhaps someone could expand that article and add references to it as well. --Eastmain 05:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability of [[James McKeown (Sinn Fein)]] and [[Jack McKee]]  

message: The article grammar school currently lacks a section on what the term might mean in Ireland. If anyone who knows about the history of education in Ireland would like to add a sentence or two on the lines of the sections for other English-speaking countries it would be good. Or more if it's warranted. Thanks. Itsmejudith 13:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Grammar school]] 

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thread_title: Éire FAR

message: I've opened a straw poll on support for a change to the title of the Republic of Ireland article and related articles. --sony-youthtalk 21:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw poll of Republic of Ireland title change 

message: Hi. I sometimes go through the links to "Cork" in an effort to fix links erroneously pointing at the disambiguation page. Some obviously should link to the city, the county or a sports team (or bottle stoppers and floor tiles). Unfortunately there are quite a few that I can tell are Irish, but I don't know exactly which article they should link to, so leave them pointing to another more specific disambiguation page, Cork, Ireland. Could someone from Ireland please review Special:Whatlinkshere/Cork, Ireland sometimes and fix these links properly? I find that Wikipedia:Popups is a nice tool to make this work quicker and simpler. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 21:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguate links to [[Cork, Ireland]] 

message: Can someone look at Culchie for me please?  The additions by an IP look like vandalism to me but may be useful for the article - or you may get a laugh.  I think I've reverted enough for now. Edits. - Ctbolt 13:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *its a list that has been doing the rounds on an email for over five years now, mildly amusing but not encyclopedic.--Vintagekits 18:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culchie 

message: I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you. Ed ¿Cómo estás? 18:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bilateral relations discussion

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thread_title:  James I of England FAR 

message: :*I have put forward a proposal here  regarding the inappropriate use of Northern Ireland flag templates in WP.--padraig3uk 08:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Misuse of flag templates

message: I'm proposing a redesign of the "Irish states template", you can see my proposal at the talk page there. Please let me know what you think, good, bad, or indifferent - and also suggestion to improve it. --sony-youthpléigh 08:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redesign of the "Irish states template" 

message: Would some of you Irish Wikipedians please take a look at this - it seems a good "Article for Deletion" candidate; but I don't know how that system works. Thanking you in anticipation, Regards (Sarah777 20:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have put it up for speedy deletion.--padraig3uk 20:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[North Killiney]]

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thread_title:  Charles I of England FAR 

message: I created a WikiProject on Irish Football a while ago. Maybe some of you here would be interested. Also, I am thinking of re-nominating the Derry City F.C. article for featured article status. Would anybody be interested in helping me with it? Danny InvincibleTalk|Edits 16:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Irish Football 

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thread_title: W. B. Yeats FAR

message: The article Irish neutrality during World War II has been nominated for deletion. Please add your opinion to the discussion on AfD. --sony-youthpléigh 22:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish neutrality during World War II 

message: Hey, I was wondering if someone could give this article an assessment. I'd like to keep working on it. Also, how would one become a member of WikiProject Ireland? Ryannus 14:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Members.--padraig3uk 14:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Alternative Ulster]]

message: The articles Durrus and District History Modern and Durrus and District history were recently nominated for deletion and the AfD ended in a consensus to "keep and cleanup". Both articles present a long and (overly) detailed history of Durrus, but both also note multiple references (although a number of them may not be identifiable). Your attention to them would be appreciated. Thank you, Black Falcon (Talk) 04:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Detailed histories of [[Durrus]]

message: A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Sarah777. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sarah777, where you may want to participate. --sony-youthpléigh 09:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC/USER discussion concerning Sarah777 

message: Hello all. I've just gotten back from a brief visit to Ireland, and it was a fantastic time. I really want to go back. I am curious if anyone can elaborate on the extent to which the peoples in Irish mythology (Fomorians, Tuatha De Danaan, etc) are considered by historians/anthropologists/scholars to have been actual peoples rather than just fictional characters in mythological stories. Many mythological canons from around the world are considered to reflect events of the pre-history or early history of their respective regions, even if not particularly accurately or objectively, and I'm curious how much this applies to the Irish case. Thank you. LordAmeth 12:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Milesians have been mentioned seriously of late as a warning not to throw the baby out with the bath water vis-a-vis history vs. myth. DNA evidience for the pre-history of migration Ireland suggests that in its non-fantastical elements it could have some basis in fact. Same with some myths (maybe exactly the same ones) from Scotland, see "the genetic connection to populations in Spain provides a scientific basis for part of the ancient Scots' origin myth". --sony-youthpléigh 12:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting stuff. Thanks! LordAmeth 14:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth vs History 

message: I have made a proposal to move the Republic of Ireland to Ireland See:
: Talk:Republic_of_Ireland#Proposal_to_move_this_article_to_Ireland.--padraig3uk 17:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: proposal to move [[Republic of Ireland]] to [[Ireland]]

message: A genuine enquiry. As part of the Military History project, I've been adding info to notable military biographies (mainly British). It's notable that a significant group of senior British army officers had Irish links - place of birth, family background, etc. Examples are Montgomery, Auchinleck, O'Connor, Brooke, etc. The question is: how does the Irish project draw the line for inclusion of biographies? Folks at 137 08:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who qualifies?

message: I'd like to start a mini-project to provide translations of Irish place-names. For example (to take some towns at random):
:Ballintra (, meaning "Town of the Tiers") ...
:Castlebar (, meaning "Castle of the Barry family") ...
:Nobber (, meaning "The Work") ...
:Termonfeckin (, meaning "Refuge of the Small debtors") ...
I'd like to get the go-ahead first, though, in case anyone would see a problem with doing this. --sony-youthpléigh 10:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I've done a little work in the meantime - I've made two templates, :Template:Irish place name and :Template:Gaeltacht place name, and a category, :Category:Untranslated Irish place names. The purpose of these are explained on their pages and I've put them in situ at Castlebar and Spiddal(reverted, see here). --sony-youthpléigh 22:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations of place-names 

message: Please see Segregation in Northern Ireland. It's quite a controversial topic and (of course) central to the Troubles, so assistance in expanding it and maintaining neutrality would be appreciated. -- ChrisO 19:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Update). Unfortunately a user with an extensive history of edit warring is trying repeatedly to move the article to the ridiculously POV title "Allegations of Northern Irish apartheid". I'd be grateful for input on Talk:Segregation in Northern Ireland. -- ChrisO 21:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article - assistance requested 

message: President of Ireland has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  President of Ireland FAR 

message: There is a straw poll under way on having flag in the infobox of the Northern Ireland article.  
There are four Options available choose either 
*Yes / No / Don't care for each Option.--padraig 00:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll on Flag options in Northern Ireland infobox

message: (quoting) 
A rather interesting proposed innovation in guidelines is taking place at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (United Kingdom-related articles) and Wikipedia Talk:Manual of Style (United Kingdom-related articles). Essentially, it is an attempt to prescribe that all Scottish, English, Welsh and Northern Irish people be called "British" in all articles concerning people from the United Kingdom. Essentially, if one finds themselves trying to retain "Sir Thomas Sean Connery (born August 25, 1930) is an Academy Award-winning Scottish actor and producer " instead of "Sir Thomas Sean Connery (born August 25, 1930) is an Academy Award-winning British actor and producer", the person pushing the latter will be able to quote the British only guidelines at you. If you support or oppose this innovation, or if you have any thoughts, you should go to the talk page. (end quote)  --MacRusgail 14:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UK nationality proposals on wikipedia

message: Just dropped by to let you know that Cillian Murphy is poised to become a GA in the next day or two, so hopefully someone from this project can drop by and upgrade the project's grade for the article. Also, I see that Cinema of Ireland has not been tagged by this project, so you'll probably want to check it out. Cheers --Melty girl 16:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cillian Murphy, Cinema of Ireland