Talk:Hack (comedy)

message: This article is pathetically undersourced and poorly composed. The content which was recently removed (even though it fell under the definition of "Hack" as stated in this article) also contained the lions share of the references. The Artie Lang and Judy Carter sources are superfluous as they don't seem to be relevant to the article and the remaining three sources are the exact same reference. In the interest of maintaining the quality of the article I have added only relevant and sourced information from the "Joke Thievery" article. There is now some overlap between the two articles, but they are still separate topics.Tony Reed (talk) 19:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Joke theft should not fall under the definition of "hack" as in this article.  The fact that this article doesn't have much info in it and needs expansion doesn't mean we can redefine another topic entirely just to include it here. DreamGuy (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the definition for "Hack" as it is currently defined in this article: "a joke or premise for a joke that is considered obvious, has been frequently used by comedians in the past, and/or is blatantly copied from its original author." - In what way is Joke Theft not a form of hacking according to the definition of "hack"? In the history section there is quite a bit of info that refers to alleged hacking that is NOT Joke Theft, and yet that was removed as well.--Tony Reed (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So, I wrote the original definition in the article, and apologize for the confusion.  I would suggest rephrasing it to something to the effect of "a joke or premise that is considered obvious or has been frequently used by comedians in the past.  Accusing a comedian of 'hacking' another comedian can also be used to indicate joke thievery." Then I would consolidate the material that is specific to joke or persona theft in that section. Hardtospell (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: Is prop comedy, in and of itself, hack? I would grant you that Carrot Top and Gallagher are basically hack, but are they the same genre as Heath Hyche? Is it possible, that comics (including myself) might simply be frustrated that the visual stimulation of prop comedy gives comics an advantage not afforded by a simple spoken act? Does the use of a guitar for performing silly songs qualify as hack, also? Although I am not a fan of prop comedy, nor the comics who win all the contests with their guitars, I am not so quick to malign the use of either.
Tony Reed (talk) 20:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prop Comedy

message: Someone posted a blurb about Artie Lange that was both biased and unsourced. Further, the way it was phrased, it was neither "Hacking" nor "Joke Theft" so it didn't really belong. To the author of that bit of info: Take a few minutes to find acceptable sources and then rephrase and repost.Tony Reed (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Artie Lange

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message: Much of both articles Hack (comedy) and Joke thievery is either duplicate or closely parallel content. There doesn't seem to be a clear basis for two separate articles. older ≠ wiser 12:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck with that. I've been pushing for that for about a year now. Many people here insist on keeping the two separate. I was the original author of the Joke-Thievery article and the majority of the historical and sourced data in the Hacking artyicle. I, personally think they should be merged because joke-thievery falls completely under the definition of hacking in the Hacking article.Tony Reed (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

text: As the content of this article mostly duplicated that of Joke thievery, I've redirected this page to that article. Robofish (talk) 17:01, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: It was an uphill battle just to get it mentioned on Williams’ page. Any time it was mentioned, it was deleted by Williams fans who would find some issue with the source, despite there being multiple claims in print and on video of several comedians claiming Williams stole their material, including Playboy magazine. Williams was just as notorious for thievery as Mencia, Cook, and Schumer in the 70’s. 
I get that he was beloved and he has many fans. However, that doesn’t mean his controversies should be swept under the rug by his admirers.
I’m willing to bet there will be similar resistance on this page because his mention has previously been removed 8.40.179.173 (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Williams needs to be included