Talk:Connacht

message: Flag- Some info on the flag would be good. For example why an Irish province has half of the "Albanian  eagle" or the "Byzantine/Orthodox Eagle" on its flag?
:Erm. It's just half of some random eagle-ish bird that suffices. The closest I could find to common representations was the one from the Albanian flag. It's not some official link or tradition. Just to clarify.
:zoney ♣ talk 13:51, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a copyrighted work. If you can find a free-licence Connacht flag, or obtain suitable permission - go ahead. The reason for my creating a new flag and using the Albanian flag's eagle was to have a GFDL flag. zoney ♣ talk 11:45, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, Zoney, have you some evidence that just any ol' half-raptor will do? Evertype 22:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Eagle of Connacht

message: 'Which is a roundabout way of saying - Connacht is the modern correct spelling in Irish and english' this is not quite true, although it is a common misconception. The nominative case for Connacht in the Irish is Connachta, not Connacht. Connacht, in Irish, is the genitive case e.g. Cúige Chonnacht. El Gringo 01:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether they are right or not, official Ireland says that the Irish spelling is "Connacht". See http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_3166-2_newsletter_ii-1_corrected_2010-02-19.pdf ISO 3166-2 Newsletter II-1. Wikipedia has to be source based, not based on what editors think is correct. The source here is "Ordnance Survey Office, Dublin 1993" (as listed by the ISO itself).I will amend the article accordingly. Frenchmalawi (talk) 14:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Technically speaking...

message: It would be good to review the "early history" section for content which is mythological, rather than historical.  Perhaps a "Connacht Mythology" section would be in order.
Renglish (talk) 03:04, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Early History of Connacht 

message: * 1226. Nuala, daughter of Roderic O'Conor, and Queen of Ulidia, died at Conga Fechin Cong, and was honourably interred in the church of the Canons at Cong.
* 1230. Melaghlin Mac Firedinn, a noble priest and a professor of literature, died in his monastic noviciate in the monastery of Boyle.
* 1235. Madden O'Madden, Lord of Sil-Anmchadha, died.
* 1236. Mulmurry O'Laghtnan was appointed to the bishopric of Tuam, and went to England, where he was consecrated, after having received the Pope's letters, by consent of the King of England.
* 1238. Felix O'Rooney, Archbishop of Tuam, after having some time before resigned his bishopric for the sake of God, and after having assumed the monastic habit in Kilmurry Mary's Abbey, in Dublin, died.
* 1241. Bishop O'Flaherty (i.e. Murtough), i.e. the Bishop of Annadown, died.
* 1243. Malone O'Creghan Crean, Archdeacon of Tuam, after having returned across the sea as a professor, died in Dublin.
* 1244. The Archdeacon of Tuam was drowned in the Glaislinn of Cluain.
* 1245. Donnell O'Flanagan, Abbot of Cong, died.
* 1247. Conor O'Murray, Bishop of Hy-Fiachraclh Aidhne Kilmacduaggh, died at Bristol.
* 1247. Finola, daughter of Roderic O'Conor, died at Conga-Fechin Cong.
* 1248. Dermot O'Cuana, the great priest of Elphin, died, and was buried at Kilmore.
* 1249. Mulmurry O'Laghtnan, Archbishop of Tuam, a proficient in the canon law, died in winter, a short time before Christmas.
* 1250. Thomas O'Meallaigh, Bishop of Annadown, died.
* 1255. O'Laidig, Erenagh of Annadown, died.
* 1256. Gilla-an-Choimhdheadh O'Kinnfaela, Abbot of Annadown, died.
* 1256. O'Gillaran, Abbot of Trinity Church at Tuam, died.
* 1258. The Bishop's palace at Elphin, and the palace of Kilsesin, were demolished by Hugh O'Conor.
* 1268. Hugh, son of Conor O'Flaherty, Official of Annadown, died.
* 1269. Christina, daughter of O'Naghtan, and wife of Dermot Midheach Mac Dermot, the most hospitable and chaste woman of her tribe, and the most bountiful to the order of Grey Friars, died, after the victory of penance.
* 1270. Tany More, son of Duinnin, son of Nedhe, son of Conaing Boy O'Mulconry, was elected to the chief ollavship of Connaught; and the ollavships of Dubhshuileach O'Mulconry and Dunlang O'Mulconry were abolished.
* 1297. William O'Duffy, Bishop of Clonfert, fell from his horse, and died in consequence.
* 1304. Conor, son of Hugh O'Conor, was slain by Hubert O'Flaherty, after he had acted treacherously towards Donough O'Flaherty. Hubert was killed in retaliation immediately after this.
* 1306. Donough O'Flaherty, Bishop of Killala, the most eminent of the Irish for piety, died at Dunbuinne, on his way to Dublin, and was interred with honour at Mullingar, in the house of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
* 1328. Thomas O'Meallaigh, Bishop of Annadown, died at Rome.
Just for now. Fergananim (talk) 02:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: y

message: * AI777.4 The drowning of more than a hundred of the Connachta at Tír dá Glas. Fergananim (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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message: /s  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.181.201 (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't think this article has enough italics 

message: Why is there so much detail from the Annals of Ulster on this page? Would it not make more sense to link to (or create) another article on this subject? As it is the useful information in this piece is swamped by sections on the Annals.
Laconic Loiner (talk) 13:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's completely over the top in this article. A summary is needed, with a link to a new "main article". SixtyNineSixtySix (talk) 22:11, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. Barryjjoyce (talk) 03:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The Annals of Ulster

message: A similar question to that of spelling is pronunciation. As of now, only the anglicised pronunciation is given, but many in Ireland pronounce it /kɔnəxt/ even in English. I think this should be added.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.93.193.53 (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved per consensus.  No such user (talk) 14:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Connacht →  – Connaught is the English name, Connacht is the Irish name, Wikipedia uses the English names for Ulster, Leinster and Munster (Not the Irish names: Ulaidh, Laighin and Mumhan). We need to fix this inconsistency. Connaught is also used by major websites like Google and Britannica. I am aware that “Connacht” is the official name in both English and Irish, but English Wikipedia uses the English name for places in the Republic of Ireland even when their not official like Dingle, Gweedore and Newbridge. (Instead of An Daingean, Gaoth Dobhair and Droichead). Ale3353 (talk) 07:16, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

text: *Is it more common though? I'm finding the opposite (and many of the results for Connaught, including the first three on Google for me, are about the hotel in Mayfair). The current title appears to be used more in media both in the UK and in English-language sources abroad, in addition to official uses.--Yaksar (let's chat) 22:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

text: *Wikipedia does not always use the official name. It uses the most common name and the English name. Ale3353 (talk) 08:05, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Ireland has been notified of this discussion.  — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 10:54, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Per WP:CONSENSUS  I did not deem an extended closing statement necessary since the proposal and supports were rather free of evidence and were overwhelmingly opposed. Giuliolopez provided compelling evidence and argumentation in opposition and  Nicknack009's ngram was also convincing enough. WP:PERX is generally considered a fine argument, asserting that X has provided substantial evidence, although it does not carry much weight. No such user (talk) 09:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's quite a good explanation. Mabuska (talk) 13:24, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Having said that one of the supporters of the move provided evidence that is quite strong . Logainm is partnered with and funded by the Irish government's Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht and provides nomenclature for them. Such evidence can't simply be flimsily ignored. Then again what does it matter what the state the area belongs to use when it comes to nomenclature, seeing as we're stuck with Derry rather than its official name according to its state. Mabuska (talk) 13:31, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As had already been pointed out, the official name was defined in 2003 by an Act of the Oireachtas, the Official Languages Act 2003 and Statuary Instrument 519/2003. According to the S.I., the name of the province in the English language is Connacht. Spleodrach (talk) 15:51, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Logainm is newer than your second source. The first which is also older than Logainm needs a better link to actually provide the statement being used as evidence as it's just a load of links at the moment. And no your !vote isn't "perfectly" valid. As stated I couldn't care less what this article is named as both have valid merits, but Devil's Advocate and all. My key point in my previous post was that Logainm is evidence that should not be so easily ignored. My other point is that 'official' is commonly ignored on this site. Did you know that Logainm was accepted as a valid and recommended source for Irish place names on Wikipedia in a (quite old now) IMOS discussion (that I was a main contribuator in) and as far as I'm aware it hasn't been overwritten. So if good enough for Irish names it's good enough for English names. Don't think you were about then but the (now admin) RA with what was effectively OR messaged them directly and posted their response on their status on such matters. In what was quite a heated and lengthily discussed debate we accepted it. Must dig it up. Mabuska (talk) 03:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: On IMOS, it actually settles this issue, so any change to Connacht would need to be through discussion there. Mabuska (talk) 10:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: My !vote was and remains perfectly valid, no matter how many times you denigrate it. Yes, IMOS says use Connacht for the province, so IMOS and the official name are in agreement. Also, for someone who claims not to be bothered one way or the other about the outcome of this move discussion, you sure seem quite upset about it. Spleodrach (talk) 16:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated playing Devil's Adovocate. Was quite appropriate too considering the way this discussion was done and handled with the holes in the arguments [on both sides] and casual disregarding of perfectly valid evidence out of hand as if it had no weight. Mabuska (talk) 19:47, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

text: My !vote is perfectly valid. I agreed with Guliolopez and the arguments he made. So no need for me to type the same thing again. Spleodrach (talk) 12:13, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 13 August 2021