Talk:Michael Caine

message: (the IMDb lists 131 films)
* Zulu (1964)
* The Ipcress File (1965) (novel by Len Deighton)
* Alfie (1966) (play by Bill Naughton)
* The Italian Job (1969)
* Get Carter (1971, also remake 2000)
* Sleuth (1972) (play by Anthony Shaffer)
* The_Man_Who_Would_Be_King (1975) (story by Rudyard Kipling)
* The Eagle Has Landed (1976)
* Dressed to Kill (1980) (written and directed by Brian de Palma)
* Deathtrap (1982) (play by Ira Levin)
* Educating Rita (1983) (play by Willy Russell)
* Hannah and Her Sisters (1986) (written and directed by Woody Allen)
* Half Moon Street (1986) (based on Paul Theroux's novel Doctor Slaughter)
* Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988)
* Jekyll & Hyde (1990) (story by Robert Louis Stevenson)
* A Shock to the System (1990) (novel by Simon Brett)
* The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992) (novel by Charles Dickens)
* Noises Off (1992) (play by Michael Frayn)
* The Cider House Rules (1999) (screenplay by John Irving, based on his own novel)
* Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002)
* The Quiet American (2002) (novel by Graham Greene)
::KF 20:12, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't changed anything and I'm not going to. Basically I think I don't care about uniformity because it will never be achieved: Just look at the articles on (a random list) Audrey Hepburn, Gary Cooper, Marilyn Monroe, Charlie Chaplin or Mia Farrow. Looks like a lot of work (for you?). All the best, KF 10:15, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected filmography 

message: Is his accent really cockney? It sounds more SE London to me (although very nasal), which would fit in more with being born in Rotherhithe and brought up in Camberwell (both of which are South of the River, although you might just be able to hear Bow Bells from Rotherhithe if you listen very closely...)
:I think that his accent has changed a bit, not by much though. I think he is rather speaking with an Estuary English accent, which is a midway between RP and Cockney. Tjúlla 13:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just thought I'd add this for the many surfers who may make the mistake. The real cockneys live not in the Eastend as we know it today but east in the City of London. The Bow Bells location was in Cheapside which is just to the east of St Pauls Cathedral, South of London Wall and just north of Cannon street and Southwark Bridge. Many people mistake Cockneys as being further East of the city due to the area known as Bow which is way out past Stepney and Whitechapel.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.227.166 (talk) 18:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accent 

message: I have heard that Michael Caine is a Gypsy / Romanichal - any thoughts? The article for Bob Hoskins does mention his Roma heritage so I personally think it would be useful here ref: http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm 81.77.78.217 18:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an assertion you can find all over the web, along with attempts to rubbish it.  Clearly one doesn't leap to claim Romani ancestry as one might with another background, so who knows. For whatever reason he appears on the list of famous Romnichal.  However google tells me Micklewhite is a Yorkshire name (from Micklethwaite). Hakluyt bean (talk) 21:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Gypsy]] roots 

message: "Some time after his mother died, Caine and his younger brother learned they had an elder half-brother, named David. He suffered from severe epilepsy and had been kept in hospital his entire life. Although their mother regularly visited her first son in hospital, even her husband did not know the child existed."
I note that the film 'Last Orders' contains a sub-plot which is not dissimilar to this, where Caine's character is father to a disabled child who is disowned by all but her mother; is this coincidental or was Caine interested in the role for this reason, perhaps? Ndaisley 15:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost sibling 

message: Why is there nothing about this? In his autobiography it gives some details of this and some important information about the development of a new drug used to treat malaria with which 'Caine' was treated. (Sasquatchuk 00:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korea & time in army 

message: So, such classics as Miss Congeniality  and Austin Powers in Goldmember are included in his "main filmography", but The Quiet American (2002 film) isn't included, even though Caine received a best actor Oscar nomination for it. Seems odd. Psychonaut3000 03:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole idea of a "main filmography" seems like a bad idea. These templates have started appearing on other actor articles. I've edited a couple to make them a bit more representative, but it's still a matter of opinion what goes in and what doesn't. JW 14:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange choices for Filmography 

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message: did he fight in korean war? i see no evidence for this  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.177.31.12 (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See here. Deor (talk) 22:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Korean War]]

message: Michael Caine did not meet his wife Shakira on the set of 'the Man Who would Be King'. He first saw her on a TV advert for coffee and was instantly smitten. A friend of his had worked on the ad campaign and arranged an introduction. this story is told in Caine's autobiography 'What's it All About?'
82.10.190.51 (talk) 16:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meeting his future second wife 

message: It does not mention at all in this article Sir Micheal Caine's Lowestoft history. He originally lived in a bed sit and worked in a theatre. Why doesn't someone add it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.209.81 (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah a very important missing bit of information.
212.238.53.208 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir Michael's Lowestoft origins 

message: Do you think any sentence should contain 110 words? Neither do I. Proust on a bad day would consider that excessive. And yet, the second sentence of this article contains 110 words. Go ahead, count them. It just meanders on and on. It's just over the top. Some time soon I'm going to shorten that overly long sentence.
SelectSplat (talk) 04:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He's been active for 53 years, so yes. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 09:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of that time was probably spent trying to READ the sentence 78.86.230.62 (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculously long sentence 

message: Why is there a section for "Other awards" when thers'a already a dedicated article for all the films and awards? Would anyone like to fix this? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 06:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other awards 

message: No reference whatsoever to his upcoming film?  No reference to his critique of how so much worse South London housing has got compared to when he was younger.  His comments (see http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/caine%20slams%20rotten%20london%20estates_1097608 ) were actually because of his filming of Harry Brown in the soon-to-be-demolished (thank God!) Heygate estate. 78.86.230.62 (talk) 20:47, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry Brown 

message: Was he really called born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr.?  Did he and his family use this particular form of address/name - the 'Junior?'  I ask as it's an Americanism very rarely used in the UK - if Caine and his family didn't use it, he shouldn't be called that in this article, just "born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite".  The fact that he shared the same name as his father can be made clear in the article. 86.142.104.203 (talk) 11:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Junior is not part of his birth name. Jim Michael (talk) 09:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  This was still in the article/ had been added again; neither of the two differently-named editions of Caine's autobiography cited have him refer to himself and his father as "Junior" and "Senior"; he merely observes he was named "after [his] father". Although, as Google books shows, a few rather poor-quality biographical sources (think "100 Big Film Stars") of U.S. origin append the "Jr", this is presumably to cater to the U.S. audience to clarify the shared name with his father. The Encyclopaedia Britannica being cited means nothing since it's been updated very recently (and no doubt refers to Wikipedia), and per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources is of doubtful quality anyway. Being an Englishman, there's no way Caine was "born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite Jr", nor would he ever have been referred to with "Junior" except in the most colloquial and unofficial way, as that's how things are done in the U.K. generally with regard to this issue.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.201.123 (talk) 22:42, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr.? 

message: The trivia bit in the first paragraph is incorrect -- Laurence Olivier was also nominated for Oscars in five different decades:  once in the 30s, three times in the 40s, once in the 50s, twice in the sixties and three times in the seventies.  I'm going to change it; if I'm missing something, revert it and 'splain. Steambadger (talk) 16:54, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oscar nominations in five decades 

message: Under career it states Michael Caines career began in the 1060's as an assitant stage manager, yet in another artice (Michael Caine filmography; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine_filmography) the filmography show Michael Caine as appearing in 12 films below 1960. Something's wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biblo47 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmography v career 

message: The article says, "Caine's economic views closely echoed the economic policies of U.S. President George W. Bush, of whom Caine is a supporter."  However, the article only cites Caine's periodic support of the British conservative party.  Is this comment constructive?  If so, should there be evidence?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srj76 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No citation provided to regarding support of George W. Bush 

message: Right now, the article is decorated with three lackluster photos of Michael Caine in his sunset years.
He's a handsome old man, but it would have made sense to include at least one picture
from his young days. An actor's life is defined in large part by his appearance and film roles.
Caine's extreme good looks in his youth, as well as his talent, helped him get breakthrough roles
such as the aristocratic officer in ZULU and, later, the title role in ALFIE. A good photo from that period
would be appropriate.
Younggoldchip (talk) 21:19, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: He never had "extreme good looks". (92.11.201.212 (talk) 09:38, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article needs better pictures 

message: I heard various sources stating that Caine's father is half Romani.  A lot of people however deny this because Michael Caine is fair skinned. Are Irish Travellers and Romani people the same? This source says he has Romani in him: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-05/news/vw-4311_1_gadjo/2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.145.67.74 (talk) 20:36, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Romani people|Romani]] or [[Irish Traveller]]?

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message: Caine has only appeared sitting down in his last few films, and I've heard several pieces of speculation that he may have become disabled following a stroke: does anyone know of any sources which might support this, or is it merely gossip? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer walking? 

message: Why is not noteworthy that Caine was involved with the Scouts when he was younger?  This is something which puts in childhood into context and is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopaedic entry. Rkb1809 (talk) 21:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Involvement with Scouts

message: The political party bit in the infobox looks odd to me. Caine has had involvement with the Conservative party but so have many other notable figures with many political parties and no such entry exists on their infobox. I feel it should be removed. 2A02:C7F:7A0D:2700:480C:CC51:6CF5:6711 (talk) 19:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political party 

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message: Caine is ranked as the twelfth highest grossing box office star.[4]  
Currently 13th, reference needs to be updated or dated to when he was 12th.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.53.102 (talk) 23:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  no longer 12th 

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message: Didn't he change his name by deed poll to Michael Caine?   Rovingrobert (talk) 09:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change 

message: In this interview Caine mentions a "very successful" wine business he had started with a friend.  I see no mention of it in the article.  He also owned several restaurants in the 1990s, and there seems to be no mention of that either.  I'm not interested enough to work on a section on this, but just interested enough to record this gap here, for anyone who may want to take it up. Ijon (talk) 19:14, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wine and restaurant business? 

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message: Intro section says "Caine is one of only two actors nominated for an Academy Award for acting in every decade from the 1960s to the 2000s, the other one being Jack Nicholson; Laurence Olivier was also nominated for an acting Academy Award in five different decades, beginning in 1939 and ending in 1978."
Could it not be shortened to just say "Caine is one of three actors who have been nominated for Academy Awards for acting in five different decades, the others being Laurence Olivier and Jack Nicholson."?
Also, I have to assume Meryl Streep's massive amount of nominations have made her eligible for this "5 different decades" distinction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:5800:27E0:41CD:2A5E:514D:B9EA (talk) 17:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This could be rephrased. 

message: Michael Caine had a minor part in the 1961 film The Day The Earth Caught Fire. Perhaps there are others not listed. 2A02:C7E:1C68:E000:CA2:BF5F:25EC:C914 (talk) 11:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This article lists only his major films. The main filmography is clearly linked at the top of that section: Michael Caine filmography.--Shantavira|feed me 11:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing filmography items 

message: Per this: https://www.thewrap.com/michael-caine-not-retiring/ Kailash29792 (talk)  01:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Euryalus, I came to the article today and was unaware of all the back-and-forth (and the protection). I think the that his representatives felt the need to issue a denial makes it worth noting, so I've added a couple of lines.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:28, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not retired 

message: , you have replaced a sourced mention of his Cockney accent with an unsourced mention of his supposedly South London accent. In your summary, you actually agree he is known for playing Cockney characters. Anyway, unless you provide a source for his South London accent, I will revert your changes. Please be warned that in general it is not ok to remove sourced content from articles just because you disagree with it. Vpab15 (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It’s not that I disagree with Cockney. To my untrained ear it’s a Cockney accent, but some from London dispute this. There are sources for South London, although there are also plenty (probably much more) for Cockney. Scanning the edit history for the article it has been changed to South London. Given the weight towards Cockney it’s probably best it remains until it can be proven otherwise. PD Rivers (talk) 18:30, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cockney Accent 

message: I heard that Michael Caine is his legal name. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  His name 

message: I'm being a bit pre-emptive here, but it's being widely reported that Caine is coming out of retirement to star in a Netflix series. However this seems to be largely based on a report in The Sun, so if anyone adds this to the article I think it should be reverted until confirmed by a  reliable source. Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 12:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supposed end of retirement  

message: Human Wave tactics were also utilized by Imperial Japan during WW2 (known as Banzai attacks) and during WW1 (Battle of the Somme for example). It has little to do with communism. Even if that was how Michael Caine felt about communism, we should provide every available info so readers can have more knowledge of the subject matter than Michael Caine himself. Rcjteng (talk) 04:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Army Service section needs more info on Human Wave Tactics.