Talk:Homestead, Florida

message: :The city is currently experiencing a building boom due to scarcity of developable land in north and central Miami-Dade County.
::Please providie the source of information, the exact years, and some hints why it is "boom". mikka (t) 20:59, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Boom

message: :This website shows the roughly 20 to 40% increase in median home prices. This is expected. If you notice, a 20-50% increase in median home prices occurs in 80-90% of the zip codes listed on that webpage. I don't understand what your point is, please explain the point of your data - how is the median increase in price unusual? or how does it constitute a boom that is special for Homestead? The median increase in homeprices on the entire graph is 27.3%. The median increase in home prices for all the zips in homestead is 30.5%. --Muchosucko 11:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The average increase in real estate prices rises across the nation it's been a boom for the whole country really; +25% in Orange Couty, +24% in Phoenix, +30% in Sacramento, +33% in Las Vegas. If you live in a house, you'll find that your house probably appreciated in value. Real-estate prices always rise - it makes everyone feel richer, but in reality, since every house rises in value, it remains a level playing field.--Muchosucko 18:27, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right if you have only one house, to live in. But if you have real estate as an investment, you do become richer. This is a general rule of capitalism: if you do nothing, then if you are rich, you grow richer, if  you are poor, you become poorer.  mikka (t) 19:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny you mention that, I do own real-estate, and it has grown at abou 30% original value. My assetts have grown approx 30%. I also collect higher rent prices. Unfortunately, due to inflation, the services I pay for also increase. So, no I can't see how I'm richer. I have more money in numerical terms, but not in purchase power. --Muchosucko 19:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I will conceed there is a building boom in Homestead. Not from Miami Herald articles, but from US. Govt. census data. [http://censtats.census.gov/bldg/bldgprmt.shtml Select "By Place", Florida". Having said that, I still can't understand why Key's Gate is here. You're going to have to show that Key's Gate is some how significant. Linking to Key's Gate is like writing an article about America's booming economy and only linking to Ford Motor Companies. It seems biased.--Muchosucko 17:17, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Keys Gate and Waterstone are the two communities in Homestead with the highest concentration of new homes being built. I would have liked to add Waterstone as an external link; however, they do not have a central website to define their community besides their blog. User:Angel Lazo (User talk:Angel Lazo) 21:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If adding a link to Keys Gate is terribly significant to you, then I suggest you add a paragraph into the main article describing this private- real-estate community's impact on the town. I suspect it is quite small. You should not do it just for Keys Gate, but every private community in Homestead. But I think it's a bad idea to throw the link into the article without any explaination. --User:Muchosucko 22:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Muchosucko, the problem here is that you base everything on your own assumptions or outdated websites.  You need to give people who live in Homestead a wider latitude for their opinion and personal experience for what actually goes on in the city. Keys Gate provides a great portion of the tax base as does Waterstone, in addition it provides a great portion of the voting base, that in itself makes it a distinct part of the city. Coincidently, it's not by chance that four of the five council members up for election this year held their re-election fundraisers at the Keys Gate Golf and Tennis Club.  By the way this is the only Golf Club within city limits. I believe there might be 26 golf courses in Miami-Dade County but not in the Greater Homestead Area. The other nearest golf course is the Redlands Golf Course, which is about 10 miles away, definately not in Homestead.  User:Angel Lazo (User talk:Angel Lazo) 02:28, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Angel, please do not mistake my suspicion for insult. I am interested in the integrity and accuracy of this article. I base my assumptions on the latest non-biased data -- the 2000 census. You will notice that I conceeded the "boom" to you based on 2005 census data. You are right however in your second assessment: I think "personal experience" and "opinion" cripple this article. Again, it would be wise to convince readers about the importance of Keys Gate in the article before inserting a link.--Muchosucko 01:47, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Muchosucko,  I do not take insult to your "opinions" and believe you have made assumptions on outdated information.  Personal experiences with supporting documentation as I have provided with web links are valid, and may be questioned by more accurate data in the future as more data becomes available.  Is this encyclopedia not a living document that may be updated my users and changed accordingly through time?  Census data from 2000 is hardly accurate for a city that essentially has been transformed in the past three years. Should we wait until the 2010 Census to update this page? I think not. So in regards to your "opinion" that this article is "crippled" by my experience, I believe it to be a little short sighted on your part.  When I visited Barcelona, Spain last September, I went online to gather information regarding history, geography, travel experiences in that particular city to include hotel recommendations.  I found that it was valuable information that was most accurate down to the bus stops.  While this is not a travel guide however, once again a personal experience proved to make all the difference. I think my updates have made the threshold of viability for this article and I have conceeded on the blogs and newspaper articles as the rules do not allow it.  (User talk:Angel Lazo) 07:53, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not trying to be hostile. Links like Keys Gate must be justified. Again, it would be like writing an article about the american economy and only linking to Ford Motor company. It would make sense to write a simple paragraph explaining why linking to Keys Gate is important to you. That's all the disagreement we have now. I don't understand why you are raising issues that I no longer worry about.--Muchosucko 07:02, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Muchosucko, thank you for restoring the page to the previous edition. Keys Gate's importance to Homestead began as a Canadian Company's development for retirees only. It is encompassed within a Development of Regional Impact (DRI) which is regulated by the state for zoning and density due to its size. The Company was called Florida Design Communities and they went bankrupt due to Hurricane Andrew. Years passed and finally in 2002 the area began to blossom as developers began to run out of land north of Homestead. In 2002 I was looking for a house since I got tired of living in a 1 bedroom condo in downtown Miami and decided to get the most house for the money.  I headed as south as the mainland would take me and found this sleepy community in Homestead. I liked what I saw and thought others will too.  Other continue to come and it seems like there's no end in sight.  
(User talk:Angel Lazo) 22:53, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was looking for another type information. For example: Keys Gate was responsible for 70% of the single housing permits issued in 2002-2005. This community has been a major contributor to Homestead's building boom. That would have been enough -- then it makes sense to enter the Keys gate link and maybe even golf course at the bottom. As it stands now, it sounds like you are living in Keys Gate and enjoying it. That's great, it's important to you, but why is it significant to homestead and the Wiki user? and why are you are raving about Keys gate and not Waterstone or some other development??? The answer should be impersonal, and it should be in the main article -- not the talk page.--Muchosucko 01:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, it's been 9 days, and there's no action. I'll remove it until you can bring the statistics we agreed must be submited.--Muchosucko 13:42, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Boom

message: :Hello everyone. I just moved to Homestead about two months ago. I live very close to the AF Base, in Campbell Drive. I would like to ask a question to users who have lived here longer than me: every night you can hear a tremendous roar, as if a rocket engine was being tested. The sound seems to come from the direction of the Air Force base, but I do not believe they are running engine tests there. Does anyone know of any manufacturer/plant that could be producing this sound? Just to give an ideia, when it comes on (lasting for about 10 seconds each time, about three times every night), car alarms go off, probably from the vibration in the air. I'd appreciate some input on this, it has me stunted! Quase 01:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Talk pages are for discussing articles. You will have a better chance of getting answers at the Reference Desk. Dr Zak 01:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that, but do you really believe I would have found someone who lives this close to me and know what Im talking about in the general Reference Desk. Anyway, if this was against the rules, feel free to remove the complete section (I believe more people have this same question that I did, tough). And thanks CiXeL for the answer. Quase 00:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ever heard the adage "Cool your jets"?  The noise is just the opposite of that.  Since 9-11, the USAF has kept fighters at Homestead Air Reserve Base ready to take off at a moment's notice.  Occasionally it IS the fighters actually taking off, but for the most part, it's just them keeping them warmed up and ready-to-go.  When a crew gets a stand down, they're sometimes told to "cool their jets".  I live 5-6 miles from the base, and we can hear it from here occasionally.  Growing up here, with the base being active, you didn't hear it nearly as often as you do since 9-11.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SigmetActive (talk • contribs) 19:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rocket testing?

message: I grew up in Homestead, Florida and I cannot understand why the demographics section says nothing about the Mexican-American community. Mexican immigrants and Mexican-Americans (mainly from Texas) are the largest Hispanic group by far. They originally came for migrant farm work (agriculture being a major industry). There are many local businesses with Mexican goods, crafts, musical instruments and restaurants that are landmarks like El Toro Taco and La Casita Tejas which have been around for decades. On Friday nights and Saturdays you can see Mariachi bands walking on Krome or Washington Avenues, frequenting the restaurants and playing for tips. When I was a kid all of the birthdays, weddings, and quinceañeras had Tejano (Tex-Mex) music and Piñatas. The first time I went to a dance club (at the Homestead Air Force Base) they played 60% "American top 40" pop music with 30% Tejano and 10% Salsa music thrown in to keep everyone happy & dancing.
[[El Nachito Restaurant]http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1186515]
[[Interview with local business owner Soila Gallegos]http://library.thinkquest.org/C008371/Lydia%20Reyna.htm]
There are many cultures in Homestead; White and Black Americans came to farm South Florida land in what would later be called "the Nation's Breadbasket". African-Americans from the South were the first main group of migrant workers (followed by Mexicans), Puerto Ricans came too and had their own slice of town (where you could hear Salsa music instead of Tejano music), there were a sprinkling of Bahamians and Jamaicans and the U.S. economy of the 1970's brought mixed groups of north easterners and mid-westerners to settle in new projects of affordable housing. This invigorated the small Jewish community [[Temple Hatikvah]http://www.thhjc.org/]. The Cuban populace grew after the Mariel Boat-lifts (1979-1980) when these immigrants were settled by U.S. Immigration, however much of this group relocated to larger Cuban communities in Miami. Central Americans were the new migrant workers after the Mexican community's youth chose college over farm work (like the African-Americans before them). The Haitian community is the latest ethnic group increasing since the 1990's. Post-Hurricane-Andrew saw yet another affordable housing migration of mixed peoples. Still Mexican-Americans are one of Homestead's largest ethnic groups.Zonjezile (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Demographic]]s

message: * I think someone should create a category like that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.140.37 (talk) 08:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is there not a cities in Florida Category ?

message: Here are some articles about Homestead from the Miami New Times:
* DeFede, Jim. "Promises to Keep." January 4, 2001
* Karetnick, Jen. "Homegrown in Homestead." Thursday February 15, 1996
WhisperToMe (talk) 23:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Miami New Times articles

message: I apparently inadvertently edited the article trying to fix the population density while looking at an older version of it. Another user tried to fix the problem by pasting in a section lost in the edit. I have now reverted to the version before my edit, restoring the article to its state before I touched it. The population density in the infobox is still screwed up, however. -- Donald Albury 21:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion in edit history 

message: The article stated that Homestead has a tropical savanna climate like most of South Florida. The second half of that statement is wrong. Most of South Florida has a tropical monsoon climate (more total rainfall, less dramatic difference in temperature between cold and warm months). Only the Homestead area (very bottom tip of peninsula, farther south than Miami) and a small chunk of the west coast of the peninsula have a tropical savanna climate. Tiny areas. Compare the tropical savanna map and the tropical monsoon map. Succubus MacAstaroth (talk) 17:50, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate inaccuracy removed 

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