Talk:Dominatrix

message: I noticed the article says "A dominatrix (from the Latin word dominatrix...". If the English and Latin word are identical isn't it really just the Latin word, not from the Latin word? Just a thought, I may be wrong.69.179.152.163 (talk) 18:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Latin

message: For example, the OED, in dicussing the titular 'Dom' (eg Dom Pérignon), clearly gives the latin Dominus as the root - "[In sense 1, a. Pg. dom, a title of honour, = Sp. don:{em}L. domin-us master, ruler, chief, owner; see DON n.1, DAM n.4, DAN1. In sense 2 an abbreviation of L. dominus.] ".  Similarly, it's trivial to look up a full definition of dominus/domina if the explanation there isn't enough.  
The sentence in question is talking about 'dom', not 'domme', as the prior just finished explaining that 'domme' was termed from the former.  If that was the question, the wrong sentence is tagged 'cite needed'.
This seems so trivial I think I should just delete the 'cite needed', since I don't usually see citations for mere latin translations, certainly not from such obvious roots.  Needing a cite to explain that 'dungeon' also has the same 'dominus' root might be reasonable, but not that 'dom/dominant/domination/dominatrix' come from 'dominus' .. I mean.. honestly.  
No action taken at this time since I'm anonymous and I'd rather just provide a worthless citation to appease someone.  I'd do the OED cite but access there is restricted through university portals and I figure that's just as worthless.  :(  98.222.61.151 (talk) 10:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: citation needed on intro?

message: Who wrote this? Someone who does not scene? A Dominant role is ALWAYS written with a CAPITAL LETTER and not in lower case first of all. Example: Dominatrix, Domme, Mistress, Goddess, Master, etc. No lower case for the Dominant title. Even the word “Dominant” receives a capital letter. Second: Domme is NOT pronounced as Dom. That is how you say the MALE title for a MALE Dominant when you call him a “Dom” and not how you address a female. That is offensive to a female. Call a Domme by the title of “Dom” and see if you don’t get punched in the teeth or at the very least sneered at as a complete moron with poor manners. The proper way to say the word “Domme” is to say “Dom-A” and whoever wrote this is wrong. Domina is plural for Domme and is also capitalized. Dominatrix means the female Dominant is a Pro Domme (terms are interchangeable) and she works for money in a dungeon taking clients. A Domme or Mistress is may or may not be a pro or may be an amateur who simply plays for fun. Dominatrix is a title reserved exclusively for a pro Dominant. In a professional dungeon with pay services you will find professional female Dominants using the titles of: Dominatrix, Domme, Mistress and Goddess. This is also true when the female works freelance on her own as she selects her own title as a matter of preference. In the amateur world, just for fun, no female uses the title of Dominatrix as it is only a pro title. Titles go by profession or amateur status. Is she being paid or not for services rendered? --user:anonymous 10 January 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.58.224.103 (talk) 01:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: woah, hold it.  I can see how Pleasure change is dominate...ing, but punishment change does almost nothing.  In fact, it may be the most inconspicuous stance change in the entire game...  (Please respond on my talk page.) tinlv7 21:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ivy (soul calibur) 

message: I believe the article "Lifestyle dominatrix" should be merged into this one. Nevermorestr 06:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge articles 

message: Someone has proposed merging in Professional dominant.
*Merge as it all seemed covered here already. Some bits might need to go to Master (BDSM). (Emperor 15:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have Female dominance for this, and I think it is a better name than "Domme" (which doesn't seem to be a proper word). I think this article should be left to covering things like the imagery, stereotype and popular culture of dominatrices - that's what the article is currently mainly about, after all; not every female dominant dresses up in the stereotypical dominatrix way, and it would be POV to imply that. Mdwh (talk) 01:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: "Domme" is the term that's been used in lifestyle BDSM at least since the 80's. Understand that there's a firm distinction between the terms Domme and dominatrix. It's not just a stereotype that dominatrices are professionals, the definition of a dominatrix is a woman who dominates clients for money, as opposed to a Domme, who dominates her personal submissive(s) in her personal relationship(s). If there is a separate article on Female dominance, then much of the material dealing with non-professional lifestyle BDSM should be moved there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.77.13 (talk) 01:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Also understand that as a professional, the connotation with prostitution is unavoidable, even if the dominatrix does not have sex for money. Because of this, even though Dommes who are also dominatrices may be some of the most respected members of a bondage community, the term dominatrix can be taken as an insult by Dommes who do not perform professionally. 97.81.77.13 (talk) 01:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that dominatrix has different connotations - that's why I suggested the Female dominance article, rather than starting a new article Domme. However, I disagree that dominatrix means for-payment by definition - that's not the dictionary definition. I don't think this article has much coverage of lifestyle domination, it mainly only covers it to explain the differences. Mdwh (talk) 02:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: The photo, most of the external links and some of the media references are all just spam. This article is not in any way approaching any kind of professional standard.
:How is the photo spam? Videmus Omnia  Talk  20:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A free image has been obtained from a notable French dominatrix. Why do you call that spam ? Hektor 21:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The image is definitely no spam. It makes sense to illustrate the topic and thats what it clearly does. Since dominatrices don't wear masks, I strongly doubt that we will get a much better picture soon. -Nemissimo 18:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spam

message: I am again removing Jadis and similar characters from C. S. Lewis's work from the examples.  They do not fit the definition of the article itself, and share almost no characteristics with the examples mentioned.  Being evil does not in itself make one a dominatrix.  Anyone remotely familiar with Lewis would scoff at the notion that he intended to portray sexual domination in his children's books. Elphion (talk) 14:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Jadis, etc.

message: Dominatrixes are so common in popular culture, that this list will never be complete and will simply keep growing. I suggest removing the list and in its place leaving a brief overview of the roll dominatrixes play in popular culture. -Neitherday (talk) 22:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me. Carl.bunderson (talk) 01:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't have any resources to write an overview, and with the trivia tag having been added recently, I suggest the section be removed wholesale. Carl.bunderson (talk) 05:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Done. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture

message: "[...]the Australian dominatrix Sarah~{owner of slave kylie; note the lower-case "k")[...]"
I don't think that Sarah and the spelling of her slave are of any relevance for the subject. -62.178.1.52 (talk) 18:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm removing that whole sentence shortly. Carl.bunderson (talk) 03:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sarah and her slave

message: The article needs some information about the origins of the word. Assuming the word is authentic Latin and not a neologism: When did it acquire the sexual connotations it has today, and how was it used before that? SpectrumDT (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add what's in the OED in just a sec. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the word?

message: Someone has proposed merging Female dominance into this article.
* Support merge and free this title up for potential articles about social organization in various animal species.  A lot has been published about "female dominance", and not the BDSM type.  Lemurs are a classic example. – Maky « talk » 07:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: "The History & Arts of the Dominatrix" seems to be a self-published eBook on Amazon. It reads more like a long blog than scholarly work and takes wild liberties interpreting Mesopotamian literature and art. 
The repeated use of "The History & Arts of the Dominatrix" as a cited source in this Wikipedia article undermines the integrity of this article and allows it to contain misinformation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boudiccalicious (talk • contribs) 17:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major source cited is self-published eBook that lacks scholarly integrity  

message: "The Dominatrix in Print and Other Media", cited in the External Links section, is an important bit of Usenet/BDSM history, but has sadly disappeared from the Web at place we have linked. The Internet Archive has excluded it from searching, presumably by request of the site maintainers, and I can't find another source for it that looks reasonably authoritative. 
The original document, which dates back to at least 1996, isn't completely lost, as it should be possible to find on any of a number of Usenet archives. -The Anome (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Dominatrix in Print and Other Media 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The second image appears to be a stock image being sold by Alamy: http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-ostra-studio-violin-student-140315279.html and may not be in the public domain. 62.205.69.224 (talk) 00:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Having has a quick look, Alamy are also selling  this image from 1902, which is clearly in public domain. It would appear that one of their contributors has scanned over two million old postcards or whatever and uploaded them to Alamy. Searching their database would be easier than searching a thousand boot fairs and antique stores. It doesn't mean they own the image, (but they don't tell you that), just that they have that image in a downloadeable form, should you wish to pay them to down load it. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 08:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image copyright 

message: Although still favoured by professionals, both domme and femdom are the more common uses in English, with, as is even cited in this article, the focus here being a bit confusing. It's understandable that there are a lot of issues with getting information on non-pros, but it ends up tilting the article hard towards talking about the pro side of things.
This should either split off to focus entirely on the job, which running back into the Enlightenment, includes a lot more sources that could be included, or change the overall heading. OMisspearl (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dominatrix is the wrong general term for a woman who is dominant 

message: Female-led relationship (FLR) directs here.  However, there is no reference to the form of interpersonal relationship, nor are there really the same thing. (There is often some cross-over though.).  Thoughts on addressing this?  Section here or separate article?  Thanks. --Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 22:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: To add to the confusion;  if in caps (e.g., "Female-Led Relationship") it redirects to Matriarchy which is at least closer.  Lower case redirects here.  Solutions?--Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 22:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Female-led relationship 

message: The BDSM article has a lot of useful information on Dominatrixes/Femdom that this article itself doesn't have. It would be useful to bring some of that over here. I know Wikipedia the expand by language templates, but is there a similar one for expanding an article through another article on English Wikipedia itself? JungleEntity (talk) 17:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion from BDSM Article