Talk:The Glenlivet distillery

message: Darryl.smith (below) has raised questions re the impartiality of edits to this article, and this might in future result in questions regarding the neutrality of the article.  I would suggest that anyone who has any concerns about the tone or facts presented in any part of the article makes a specific comment here, so that those concerns can be aired and resolved.Apologetic22 (talk) 21:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV dispute

message: I am the offender identified below. I am not a sock puppet, but rather contributed solely on my own behalf, seeking to add citations and additional information to the entry. I apologise for any perceived POV-pushing, or inappropriate editing.  Apologetic22 (talk) 18:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea, however please take pictures of them and upload to this article if you will, it would be a wonderful addition. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 20:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Glenmorangie' sock puppets at work

message: I read on a visit to the whisky museum at Dufftown that the use of the word "Glenlivet" by the other Speyside distilleries was an attempt to genericize the trademark to mean "Speyside malt whisky", in the same way we use biro and hoover. The legal action that resulted in the real thing becoming "The Glenlivet" rather than stopping the use of the word "Glenlivet" in this way, if anything allowed this to continue - but there are plenty of Speyside malts that do not use the word, perhaps proving that the genericization was a flawed idea. Worthy of note in the article proper? EmleyMoor (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of "Glenlivet" by other distilleries 

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* The biggest thing I see is that the lede, instead of summarizing the information in the article as per WP:LEDE, serves as an introduction to the article and gives information that isn't found in the article. In fact, none of the information in the lede is in the main body of the article. I suggest moving parts of the information in the lede into a first section entitled something like "Location" or "Distillery" or "Facilities". The information on the products can go into the Production or Products section. Fixed, hopefully
* History section, first paragraph, first sentence. Which area is referred to? Fixed
* Does the Excise Act have an article? If so, it should be linked to. No article, it's something I'm intending to do in the future
* Same section and paragraph, third sentence  is it spirit or spirits? I have usually seen spirits, but hesitate to change it since I know little of the subject. Note Spirit is the correct term according to other distilleries
* Same section and paragraph, why was it an unpopular decision to give Gow a license? Expanded
* Same section, third paragraph, the last sentence is quite the run on sentence. It needs to be broken into smaller sentences. Fixed
* Same section, fourth paragraph, the first sentence is awkward. Perhaps "During the Great Depression, the distillery remained open, although many other distilleries did not stay in production: ..." Fixed
* Same section and paragraph, the second sentence is a bit run on, consider breaking the second phrase off as a stand alone sentence.Fixed
* Same section, the last three paragraphs are all short, and could probably be merged together to make the prose flow better.Fixed
* I believe it should be "Glenlivet Distillers Ltd was purchased... " as the subject is singular.Fixed
* Production section, first paragraph. Every sentence starts with "The.." which gives the prose a choppy feel. Consider rewording some of the sentences to avoid the overuse of "the". Fixed
* See also section. You don't need to list "Whisky" and "Scotch whisky" as they are linked in the article itself.Fixed'
The big issue here is the lede. It needs to summarize the article, and everything mentioned in it should also be in the article itself. All the other issues are prose flow issues and should be easy to fix.
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.Ealdgyth | Talk 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully everything should be a little more acceptable now. Nick (talk) 00:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The lede is still pretty short. I know you moved stuff out of the lede from before, but if you could use a few facts from the history up in the lede also, it'd help summarize the whole article. Alphege, which is an article I took to GA status, is about the length of this article, can you see how the lede takes something from each section? And something from each long paragraph in the sections, so that it's kind of a condensed article. The lede here probably only needs one or two sentences from the history section about the founding and maybe the fact that it stayed in operation through the Great Depression, but not WWII. Just rounds it out a bit. And I apologize, I somehow missed that you'd replied and were waiting on me. If I'd realized that, I'd have gotten to you sooner, and I'm sorry. Ealdgyth | Talk 05:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good, passing now! Ealdgyth | Talk 00:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Hopefully I can rustle up a few more whisky GAs, now I've got an article and layout to work from. Nick (talk) 11:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review

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