Talk:List of fiction set in Oregon

message: This page should be moved to Portland, Oregon in popular culture, so as to not be confused with other places named Portland.  Blackcats 07:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Let's do it. --Liface 17:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: A lot of the films in this article don't seem to have any ties to Portland, so I am removing them. I don't think "within a 100 mile radius of Portland" counts as Portland. Katr67 02:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think things from the Portland metro area should be added to this list. Thoughts? Also, I removed "Empire" again, one, because it wasn't shot in Portland and two, I can't find a reliable source for the info. The cite provided seem to just be a fan site and speculation. imbd no longer says the film was shot in FG. Sorry I said "Jedi" in the summary, I was confused because originally someone had said "Jedi" in the FG article but I had changed it to "Empire". I have since removed the reference alltogether. Katr67 22:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Forest Grove isn't Portland.  If a reliable source could be found for whichever Star Wars film, then it would be worthy for inclusion in the Forest Grove article, and maybe a new Oregon in popular culture article.  —EncMstr 22:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Above, I've been trying to focus on how we should rename or split this article up as a list. But Katr made a good suggestion, of reworking this into an article on Culture of Oregon. I think that's a good idea (but a lot more work.)
If we do it, how should we go about it? I'd say that musicians/groups, authors, and filmmakers initiating in Oregon and making a (citable) national splash should get coverage. The X-Ray Cafe, a sort of grunge breeding-ground for acts like Nirvana and Elliott Smith probably deserves a mention (and citations will be easy to come by.) Works of art that concern themselves with Oregon, like My Own Private Idaho, should be in there, and also ones with strong Oregon connections (like the works of Beverly Cleary and The Simpsons.) -Pete 20:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  if we make it a prose article 

message: Odd that we don't have any references to earlier pop culture references, like Stewart Holbrook or H. L. Davis. Think Mill Ends Park might merit inclusion? -- llywrch 22:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say yes, except that there's an ongoing discussion about "what is the purpose of this page." We've been trying to figure out what to rename it to, and whether to split it into multiple articles. In fact, I've got an urge to be bold right now... -Pete 21:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: So is the cut-off point post-1970?

message: This article only deals with Portland, but the title makes it seem like it's all of Oregon. -Liface
: Up until the name change, the article was artificially restricted to Portland. Its previous name was Popular culture in Portland, Oregon. There were debates about whether the suburbs of Portland qualified, etc. So, you're right - the present content is very Portland-centric. We should make an effort - and I will work on this myself - to add in other Oregon-related topics. (There currently are some, such as Jean Auel.) -Pete 22:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I was mistaken - I see that Jean Auel currently lives in Portland (though she lived in eastern Oregon for some time.) -Pete 22:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title makes no sense 

message: I'd like to add a section on plays/theater but I am only aware of one Shanghaied In Astoria which is a locally performed and not widely known enough to be the only entry in a list. Anyone aware of other examples? 198.6.33.13 (talk) 23:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not aware of others, but I don't see any harm in making a section with only one entry. Wikipedia articles are works in progress! -Pete (talk) 23:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plays? 

message: I am gradually compiling a long bibliography, annotated when possible, of novels set in Oregon.  Although I am the owner of the site, and I know Wikipedia frowns on self-submission, I think this site should be included.  It is hosted on a commercial website (an Oregon bookstore), but a glance at the site shows that it does not meet Wikipedia's description of a site "that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to web pages with objectionable amounts of advertising."  I think it DOES, however fall under Wikipedia's rule for inclusion of sites:  "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues,[2] amount of detail."  I tried submitting the site & it was rejected, and I'd like to see some discussion as to why this is considered in appropriate.  The list is growing weekly, and I will be updating my own list rather than Wikipedia's.  Since it is so much more comprehensive than the article's bibliography, I think it is truly a worth addition to the article.  Check it out & let me know: www.browsersbookstore.com/oregonfiction.html March 2011  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.40.141 (talk) 00:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am extremely biased because I detest spammers and at least two other accounts, such as this one and this one were spamming links to browsersbookstore in the past. So I hope some other editors will comment here. That said, Wikipedia is not a collection of links. If you wish to contribute to Wikipedia, we ask that you add, content, not links. It would be nice if this list were as comprehensive as the list you say you are compiling. If you would rather update your own site rather than add to this article, that's fine, but since that doesn't benefit Wikipedia, I don't think you should be using Wikipedia to drive traffic to your site. And yes, I am not assuming good faith here. Sorry. I hate spammers. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an advertising medium. Valfontis (talk) 03:19, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link I think should be allowed 

message: Keep the books set in Oregon, delete the authors who are from Oregon or live there. Same with filmmakers. If not, why not? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:57, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here to the talk page to suggest that very thing.  The list is entitled "List of fiction set in Oregon," so we shouldn't have authors or filmmakers that just live in the state.  If they write a book or make a movie set in the state, then that should be included. Rytyho usa (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does anyone object to deleting the Authors and Filmmakers? 

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