Talk:Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh

message: I've locked the page till all disputes have been sorted out. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: Note that anyone can prove India a terrorist state using Pakistani Newspapers and anyone can prove Pakistan a terrorist state using Indian Newspapers. Like it or not but it is a fact (because of on going Kashmir dispute). The article use Indis sources and used to say something like that ISI give money to Sheikh, who give money to Atta. Atta perfom 9/11 and hence CONCLUSION: ISI (PAKISTAN) had conducted [9/11]. It is simply not acceptable espacially when India sources are used to make such a big claim. I hope that wikipedia is not used for this kind of propoganda against Pakistan otherwise, I use my all legal powers to fight against it. --- Faisal 13:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the article expanded form is NOT acceptable 

message: I know that this article has been protected due to some disputes. However, I would like to request the admins for a minor edit.
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh's name in Arabic has been misspelled. Real spellings of his name in Arabic are احمد عمر سعید شیخ. His second last name is سعید not سید.
Reasons
#سید is a family name but Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh's family name is شیخ. A person cannot have two family names at the same time. سید and شیخ are two entirely different families.
#سید and سعید are too often confused with each other because of almost same spellings and pronunciations.
Szhaider 21:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Arabic: request for edit  

message: I am restoring to the longer version, and will edit for NPOV.  Much of what was removed is objective, not propaganda.  Kaisershatner 14:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit dispute

message: There are small flaws in this section: "Forest School Snaresbrook" should really be linked to the school and use its correct name Forest School, Walthamstow. It is not called "the Forest School", but "Forest School". If you agree I'll make these minor alterations. 86.147.5.23 17:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early life 

message: BHUTTO'S STATEMENTS REGARDING OMAR SHEIKH MURDERING OSAMA BIN LADEN ARE CRUCIAL AND MUST BE INVESTIGATED AND GIVEN LIGHT. IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY FOR AMERICA, AND FOR THE WORLD, IF THIS INFORMATION WAS NOT DISTRIBUTED AND INVESTIGATED. I PERSONALLY AM OUTRAGED THAT WIKIPEDIA IS PUTTING A HOLD ON THIS INFORMATION. ITS A SHAME THAT OUR INDEPENDENT SOURCES OF INFORMATION ARE BEING CENSORED AND AMERICANS ARE BEING DENIED THIS KNOWLEDGE  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.17.132 (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unconfirmed statement. If Osama is shown to be dead, then the material would be of interest. At this point, it's just Bhutto's word, and there's no confirmation. There's a legitimate BLP issue here. Nishkid64 (talk) 22:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Murder of Osama bin Laden

message: I was watching a clip of Benazir Bhutto on Frost Over the World and she states that "...he also had dealings with Omar Sheik, the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ - 6m 10secs). Is it possible to find additional sources to confirm that this is atleast what some people beleive. I don't want to add it to the article without multiple sources stating that some people believe that Sheik murdered Bin Laden. Ethoen (9:20 UTC 28/12/2007)
*I think it was a brain fart and nothing more. She mentioned one man who was convicted of decapitating two British subjects and then started talking about Omar Sheikh who killed Daniel Pearl in the same manner. Bringing up Osama bin Laden does not exactly fit the context of what she was discussing. It was probably a slip of the tongue. Nothing more. This interview from the day after her talk with Frost is proof that she still considered OBL to be alive hence not murdered by Omar. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/03/cnr.06.html Bozu ([[User 
talk:Bozu|talk]]) 21:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omar Sheik murdered Osama Bin Laden 

message: We appear to have two possibilities. One is the exciting cloak-and-dagger story in which a former jihadi, arrested in February 2002 for a famous outrage, was (while the rest of the world thought he was just languishing in jail) somehow later used to kill the figurehead of the global jihad, at an unknown time and place, but that this was unknown to the public until a famous Pakistani politician inadvertently spoke the truth during a TV interview. 
The other possibility is that she mis-spoke, as human beings often do, and that her interviewer, being familiar with this fact, did not bother to ask, "Hang on - did I hear that correctly? You say this man murdered Osama? Stop the presses!" 
May I at least ask, if people insist on adding a section about this to Omar Sheikh's page, that it acknowledge that 
(i) people make verbal mistakes, sometimes quite complicated ones 
(ii) Omar Sheikh is supposed to have been in jail for the past five years 
(iii) Osama bin Laden is still releasing tapes 
(iv) there is zero evidence for this theory apart from one statement in a TV interview, a statement which was never followed up over the next month despite its sensational implications if taken literally, and despite the ready availability of both interviewer and interviewee 
I think this is idiotic, but perhaps that is POV. 
This new "theory" has now made its way onto Osama's page, so it may be better discussed there rather than here. Mporter (talk) 13:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benazir merely mis-spoke 

message: Benazir was a highly intelligent, highly educated and ex-prime minister.  She is not George Bush.  She does not mispeak.  This is the biggest thing since watergate.  The proof that this is a cover up is shown by the following facts:
i) the experienced reporter David Frost who was interviewing Benazir when she "slipped out" the fact that Bin Laden was murdered did not follow up on it.  In fact he looked palpably irritated and wondering quite how to paper over the issue.  He is in on the game, clearly.  If he was not in on the game then he would have pinned her down on this sensational bit of news.  
ii) Benazir was murdered in a wet job (this is a technical term) about a month after she mentioned that Omar Sheikh (note the triangle of first letters in history) was involved in Bin Laden's assasination.
iii) Nobody in the world's media picked up on a story that Bin Laden was murdered.
So blanket world media silence on the possibility of Bin Laden being dead.  I kinda have a source inside who confirms this.  Acutally it was years ago and not Omar Sheikh, but letters in names can sometimes be telling three times.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.238.190 (talk) 22:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While I also am fond of conspiracy theories, there is abolutely no proof for your claims, and it is clearly ignorant to claim that educated people are unable to commit errors. I'm not saying your theory is wrong, in fact it could very well be true, but in the end, it is just another one of those "crazy" conspiracy theories out there. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 07:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the paragraph in the introduction discussing Bhutto's interview. I did this because, as per Wikipedia:Verifiability, exceptional claims require exceptional sources. The claim that Omar Sheikh, while he was imprisoned murdered Osama Bin Laden some 4 or more years before the USA claimed to have killed him is an exceptional claim.  Such a claim needs a better source than one sentence in an interview, especially given that Bhutto had referred to Osama Bin Laden in other interviews as if he was still alive and hiding.  Shanebratt (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a remaining question if one reasons that Bhutto misspoke. 1) Why did (a friendly country - her words) specifically name Osama bin Laden's son (Hamza bin Laden) as the head of one of the groups intent on assassinating her? Why not OBL himself, given that Hamza was 16 years old in 2007? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidawedo (talk • contribs) 05:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: A reply to the argument that Benazir Bhutto mispoke

message: The article said KSM "recently" confessed to beheading Mr. Pearl.  I tried to correct this.  That KSM had confessed to personally beheading Mr. Pearl has been public since at least mid-2007, when the transcript of his CSR Tribunal was published.  He testified he killed Mr. Pearl there.  2007 is hardly recent.
I vaguely remember that news of KSM's confession had leaked at least a year earlier.  KSM was captured in 2003, that is probably when he was tortured and that is probably when he first confessed this act.
The article has to be neutral, and not take a stand as to which Mr. Sheikh killed Mr. Pearl.  Geo Swan (talk) 05:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  KSM ''"recently"'' confessed to beheading Mr. Pearl ? 

message: Another contributio added a bunch of tags to this article way back in May 2011 -- including an .  However, they didn't leave a corresponding explanation as to why they placed these tags, here on the talk page.  How can we know whether their concerns have been addressed?
I suggest if the tag isn't explained in a reasonable period of time it should be removed.  Geo Swan (talk) 06:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Original Research tag? 

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message: To add to this article: he is also called "Ahmad Saeed Omar Sheikh." 173.88.246.138 (talk) 11:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article

message: Is his 2021 release (and the claim, made by his lawyers, that he "should not have spent one day in prison") mentioned in the article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 11:04, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: 2021 release