Talk:Rugby union in Wales

message: I'm amazed this page has continued without being deleted. References are nowhere, apart from a tragic story about a man who should appear on a page about mental illness rather than one of the national pride of Wales. There is far too much opinion, weasel words, flowery prowse and incorrect statements. Is there anyone with reference books and articles regarding the popularity and adopotion of Rugby Union as the countries national sport?--FruitMonkey 11:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The History side is a good start, but we need clarification regarding the statement that Wales played in black before 1880, as the first international game played by Wales was in 1881 against England. More info is also needed on how Rugby came to Wales, and the importance of the college teams like Llandovery and Lampeter. Also there needs to be info on the 1881-1970 years, maybe the religous revival and the growth of the lesser valley clubs. The popularity section is just pointless, we need referenced pieces, such as why in Wales Football was Rugby and Soccer was Football. The importance of the six nations to the country's psyche and maybe less about testicle removal as it makes the Welsh sound like cavemen. Thoughts--FruitMonkey 19:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the reference to a man on medication castrating himself has no place on the article about rugby--Rhyswynne 17:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This page is a mess

message: OK, over the next week I'll try to get through the history section of this page and then try to clean up or at least find proof for the citations that have sat on this page for far too long. Any ideas on where this page should head would be greatfully appreciated. I'm really trying to avoid making this page too National team or WRU centric as they have their own pages, so am attempting to give a flavour of what was happening to the clubs at grass root level and the economic and social impacts on and off the sport. So far the one bugbear I have in this work is that the page is very Southern, with very little information from West and North Wales. I completely realise that and if I don't address it on my first sweep will try to correct it on my redrafting. Any opinions or better updates highly appreciated.FruitMonkey (talk) 10:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are doing a great job mate keep it up  --Snowded TALK 11:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The page is beginning to look very good, the points you make are excellent ones.GordyB (talk) 13:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the words of support, much appreciated and helps me keep focused rather than wandering off and updating other pages. I was thinking it would be nice to have a picture of a Welsh rugby legend within each of the different periods. But the inter-war period is a difficult one to choose from. I want a player who played the bulk, or all of his rugby between 1920-1939, so I was thinking of a Wilfred Wooller or Claude Davey. This period was a fair bit before my time, so I would love to hear people's opinion. Thanks againFruitMonkey (talk) 17:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates 

message: Re: Choral traditions. You're completely right, I should have moved rather than delete, I just couldn't figure how to connect this fact to the heading popularity. Singing does not show a sport is popular, it's more of a tradition. Maybe the heading should be changed slightly, or a sub heading. FruitMonkey (talk) 05:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was there when we sang hymns for an hour after both of the Grand Slams in recent years!   I think this belongs in some of the unique culture of Welsh Rugby.  The fact that it is a working class sport, and that working class South Wales was dominated by the Chapel is important and unique.   I means that conflict with the English is Race, religion and class which may explain some things!   Maybe a section on culture?  Its worth a back reference to WWI where the Chapels were pacifist at the start, but then agreed to enter the war and the welsh troups went into the trenches singing hymns.  --Snowded TALK 06:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good Lord!! You seem to have a far better understanding that myself. I'll still get the old reference books out, but you are right, the singing is part of the culture of Wales and in turn rugby, and other countries realise that too. It should be noted.FruitMonkey (talk) 07:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Its a religious matter, my mother tore the bootlace from the Welsh fly half in the 40's and it remains a family heirloom.  I can probably track down the WWI stuff when I get home --Snowded TALK 07:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

text: You removed a few things, better to make the case and get citation support.  The comments you removed all have references --Snowded TALK 15:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  A very agressive edit, without common consent; but the editor has a very good point. These are my words s/he challanges, and the word popularity is very flakey. Though the amount of people playing does not equal popularity, maybe watching does; and lets face it, no one really turns out for junior rugby. I think the term widespread should be used instead, but there needs to be more citation. The thing to point out is that most of the clubs that exist now, existed then, but hundreds have vanished. Llwynypia RFC is a major case in point. FruitMonkey (talk) 00:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity 

message: The Rugby union in Wales article mentions a William Absalom of Abercarn RFC being lost to the league game Is there any details about this player? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 11:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[William Absalom]] of [[Abercarn RFC]]? 

message: The reference for number of registered players is now defunct (404 error). Similarly, in the 'rugby players by country' article wherein there are two citations, one of which is the same as used here, they are both defunct. Could anyone provide a reliable source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by YorkshireNation (talk • contribs) 15:37, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Players References