Talk:Eric Cantor

message: I reverted this, and then self-reverted back when I saw Cantor's name, but then I followed the source to the AP article and it does not support the statement that Cantor was aware of this? We need to be very careful here to not violate WP:BLP. We need a source for this... --plange 05:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006 House Page Scandal 

message: There is no reason to have both these sentences exist in this article:
(1) Cantor is the currently the only Jewish Republican in the U.S. House. (1st paragraph) AND
(2) Cantor is the sole Jewish Republican in the House. (4th paragraph)
Infernallek 07:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repition that Cantor is Jewish 

message: As to "repetition that Cantor is Jewish" the point of view problem is even more clear-cut when you realize that Cantor is NOT the only Jewish Republican in the House.  Note Nan Hayworth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians#Current_Representatives  It is also odd not to mention that his is the first Jewish House Majority Leader http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians  To misstate that he is the only Jewish Republican in the U.S.Congress, and then fail to note that he is the first Jewish House Majority leader from either party shows some pretty serious point of view problems.
There is a reference to an anonymous source from the McCain campaign, denying he was under consideration as McCain's veep.  As has been shown many times in respect to Sarah Palin, those anonymous sources from the McCain camp often always contradicted by McCain himself and seem to have an agenda. In any event, he was seriously considered http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/06/eric-cantor-for-vice-president/  In fact I could probably fill this page with references showing he was a serious candidate.  It shows the entire article to have POV problems. 
If you are going to talk about the "Campaign Office Incident" you should put in context of the many many similar claims by Democrats. Of course, the whole thing should be deleted, because to put it into context you would clutter the article. It is too minor a matter to because to put it into context necessitates the inclusion of much too much collateral matter. 
Listing the AFL-CIO rating, alone, and then saying he is anti-labor is unbalanced, particularly when the paragraph is labelled "Economy, budgeting, and trade" - that is to say, it is not a paragraph about unions. One could list his U.S. Chamber of Commerce ratings, which have more to do with "Economy, budgeting and trade" and are very favorable.  http://www.uschamber.com/issues/legislators/how-they-voted-2009-house 
In "Social Issues" his Wolf Blitzer conversation is without cite, and seems to be taken out of context - written in a subtly pejorative manner.   
The "2010" statement that "Though he won with 59% of the vote, Cantor received the lowest vote percentage since taking the hill in 2000" is inane.  The Democrat lost a similar percentage from the Democrat in the previous election, because a third party had entered the race, and took a little from both.
This article is fraught with point of view problems, and needs a lot of editing for neutrality.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hypercallipygian (talk • contribs) 22:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point of View Problems - Repetition that Cantor is Jewish 

message: Some people seem to be very irked by how this man blamed Pelosi for the republican vote against the bailout, and are taking out their (justified?) frustration on this article.  Hopefully the attacks will die down after a day or so.  I doubt it will continue past that, but if it does, we might want to consider semi-protection.  BlastYoBoots (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent vandalism 

message: I'm not sure why the year of his marriage is 1999 - the cited source says 1989.  (The article got reverted when I corrected it.)  - 24.183.28.227 (talk) 01:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage 

message: With regards to the passages describing Cantor's statements regarding Pelosi and in response to Obama, the writing seems to be almost championing what he said. Fifty7 (talk) 15:36, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subtle neutrality issue 

message: Some have removed lines regarding the partisan tone Rep. Cantor struck. While the inclusion of this line may seem Anti-Cantor-ish, this sentiment has been agreed upon by everyone, including Cantor himself. He has proudly stated (including on videos on his own site) that he is happy that he had nothing to do with the bill. Including this in the article is important as it is a watershed moment in Cantor's career (when Cantor runs for President, everyone will be pointing to this moment).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.18.98 (talk) 06:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism about Cantor's stance about the American Recovery and ReInvestment act 

message: Removed the statement regarding Cantor's response to an interview of then-Presidential hopeful Obama. The section included sound bytes from Obama's interview, thus being slanted toward Cantor's position. It is unimportant to the article, as Cantor's position on Israel has already been stated and because the article already mentions that he is worried about President Obama's approach to Israel.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.18.98 (talk) 00:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody from 173.54.18.98, continues to remove the (referenced with citations) account of Cantor's view on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Their explanation is that it is redundant or slanted toward Cantor. Those claims are not true. First, it is not redundant. Most people, including Barack Obama, find the conflict to be at the very least unfortunate, and agree that the lack of resolution makes foreign policy in the Middle East more complicated. But Cantor strongly disagreed with Obama's comment to that effect and thinks that the conflict or it's lack of resolution is a symbol of America's greatness. This view has not been mentioned elsewhere in the article and therefore is not redundant. Likewise, it could reasonably be considered a radical view to hold, and simply pointing out that he holds this view cannot be considered "slanted" toward Cantor's position. I'm not aware of many other poeple who think that conflict is a good thing. So 173.54.18.98 you need to justify your continued removal of that paragraph, which is written from NPOV. 71.232.20.61 (talk) 20:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To say that it is from a neutral point of view is simply not true. If one reads the interview with President Obama, one can see that quoting him the way Cantor quoting him is chopping up Obama's words in an attempt to form a sound byte which makes Obama look anti-Israel. Additionally, the main point is that Cantor disagrees with Obama on Israel; there is no reason to put the political banter which was said by Cantor on the Wikipedia page. If that were the case, every article on a politician would be unreasonably long. Therefore, there is no reason to record the back-and-forth; there is only a need to state the main positions. This ensures that this article will remain to be written from a NPOV.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.208.149 (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

text: There is no argument that the paragraph in question is condensed and referenced. The issue, however, lies in the paragraphs importance. Cantor has had this sort of response to Obama (and other Democrats) on many issues. Additionally, while it may offer a perspective onto Cantor's politics, but it does not convey it an a neutral and fair way. Some may feel that it is slanted towards Cantor, others that it is slanted against him. Due to its lack of neutrality and no specific importance to the article as a whole, it should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.208.149 (talk) 04:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How does the newest revision suit you? 71.232.20.61 (talk) 16:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this revision; I don't fully see the need for it to be included (it seems to be somewhat of a random quote), but it does contribute to a neutral perspective on Cantor and merely explains how he feels about the conflict. However, the statement was made, I think, in the context of the presidential campaign and was being used to make Obama look bad and the GOP look good. Most politicians think that a relationship with Israel is a positive thing. Therefore, the inclusion of the statement may make Cantor look good and others look bad. I have not removed the statement but I think a revision/removal should be considered.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.196.214 (talk) 16:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Position on Israel

message: On January 22, 2010 an SPA removed the sentences saying that Cantor's consideration as VP was a hoax and replaced it with POV saying that "Several conservative organizations and grassroots leaders endorsed Eric Cantor for Vice President and encouraged John McCain to select him for the nomination". That sentence was based on a blog (not and a reliable source) and an article in CBS News. The CBS News article had one person saying that he thinks Cantor would be a good selection. 
I reverted the SPA, but re-inserted his contribution with the following wording: "The idea for Cantor to be McCain's running mate was supported by conservative leader Richard Land."
Victor Victoria (talk) 12:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: February 2010 update

message: The same SPA mentioned above is at it again, this time boldly adding the sentence "...the nomination details have been kept private by Senator McCain and therefore not verifiable..." (emphasis added). Victor Victoria (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The information used as citations in this section - both the book and the article - are in violation of the policies related to the biography of living persons.  Specifically WP:Grapevine, since they rely on anonymous sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HWTimmen (talk • contribs) 03:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The references meet WP:RS. Nothing in WP:BLP says that sources must be named. The references just have to be reliable, and as already discussed above, The Rolling Stone meets [WP:RS]]. Victor Victoria (talk) 06:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: April 2010 update

message: Can someone summarize the alleged NPOV issues --- I cannot see them in the text. Or is this tag no longer relevant? Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 23:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: The incident of Cantor using his Blackberry during Obama's speech has been added to the article.  I think it was a very small incident.  Should it be included?  JBFrenchhorn (talk) 06:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had already removed it once before you did, only to be reverted. As an impartial outsider it does seem to trivial for inclusion in my opinion. Smartse (talk) 18:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Just because something is mentioned in the news does not mean that it is suitable for inclusion on wikipedia. See WP:NOT#News. I take it that you forgot an important not in your first sentence btw. :) Smartse (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texting incident 

message: "The Cantor children (Evan, Jenna, Michael) were born in approximately 1989, 1991, 1993." How can one approximately be born?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.28.104.151 (talk) 18:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the source used says that they were "8, 10 and 12" in 2003. That means that the years should actually be 91, 93 and 95 which I will change but of course they could be born in different years to these! If you can find a source which states what years they were born in then please change the dates accordingly. Smartse (talk) 18:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor research 

message: An SPA has removed the sentence 
with the reason being "the content of that sentence is not directly about the topic of this page"
The sentence in question:
# was in the personal section, where it is legitimate to talk about the subject's family
# is a singe sentence about her notability
# is verifiable, see page 4 of this newsletter (reference not included in article at the time).
Any objections to re-inserting this sentence?
Victor Victoria (talk) 14:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This information is not relevant to the primary subject of the article, it's inclusion is in violation of the BLP, specifically the WP:NPF  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HWTimmen (talk • contribs) 03:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing in WP:BLP prohibits this inclusion, especially since her name is in the public domain, as evidenced by the reference provided. Victor Victoria (talk) 06:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

text: I see no reason for it not to be included. ~<FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT"   Color="##003399">BLM Platinum</FONT> <FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color=" #254117">(talk)</FONT> 01:40, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jenna Cantor 

message: I am going to spend the next few weeks trying my best to improve this article, which would be mediocre at best if Cantor were any member of Congress. But when considering the fact that Cantor is one of the most powerful people in Washington, this article is a disgrace. I would also like to point out something which I have said many times before: There should be no controversy section. It is a symptom of bad writing and would never be found in any paper encyclopedia. But anyway, here is my to-do list for the article...
#Find more information surrounding Cantor being elected Minority Whip in 2008.
#Add a political positions section.
#Locate a higher quality portrait.
#Arrange the various sections to be as helpful as possible to the reader.
#Add pictures to the article.
Feel free to help me with this! My ultimate goal is to get this listed as GA, like Jim Moran. ~<FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT"   Color="##003399">BLM Platinum</FONT> <FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color=" #254117">(talk)</FONT> 21:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do list 

message: What information is there, of Eric Cantors parents or grandparents?
Thank you for adding this topic to Mr. Cantors bio.   -- Ben.
96.251.132.17 (talk) 00:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parents and grandparents 

message: I've removed the "controversy" section that was just added, which consists of some remarks Cantor made regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Per WP:NPOV wikipedia can't put these remarks under an "anti-Arab" section or state that "these remarks demonizing Arab culture came shortly after Cantor stated in the same speech 'It is not okay to demonize Jews'." This is original research. I did a google news search to see whether these remarks have generated significant controversy and I saw only 8 results. The Wall Street Journal printed the remarks without comment under a headline: "House Majority Leader Eric Cantor offers a story that captures the Israeli-Palestinian conflict." I saw a couple of blogs condemning Cantor but not very much. It seems like this is a minor controversy not notable enough for inclusion. However, if editors do feel that it should be included, than I suggest that it be moved to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict section (which already contains some controversial remarks) and that the original research mentioned above be removed. GabrielF (talk) 21:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  new section: Anti-Arab remarks 

message: Add new section outlining his lack of respect for the Office of President. Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/after-cantor-proposes-two-debt-limit-votes-obama-abruptly-walks-out-of-meeting/2011/07/13/gIQABatADI_blog.html
--198.228.195.42 (talk) 18:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessary to put this in the article. Those guys are playing a game and everybody blames the other guy. Dutch sources accusse both parties of childish behaviour... Night of the Big Wind talk 18:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Douchebaggery (rename to fit Wiki standards) 

message: Someone reverted my removal of the following uncited fact: 
Eric has stated he enjoys playing Tenis and enjoys music artists such as Public Enemy, N.W.A and The Who among his favourites. .
Can someone tell me where in the references these factors are cited? Cantor is not mentioned until page 3 and there is nothing in there about his music tastes. I've posted on the talk page of the person who undid the removal. Perhaps this fact is true, but it's not in the given reference. Sailing to Byzantium (talk) 15:47, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Tastes 

message: "A few weeks ago, Mr. Cantor was the hard man in the confrontation over the debt ceiling; he was willing to endanger America’s financial credibility, putting our whole economy at risk, in order to extract budget concessions from President Obama. Now he’s doing it again, this time over disaster relief..."
* Eric and Irene nytimes.com September 1, 2011.87.178.116.77 (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "threatening to take Irene’s victims hostage" 

message: Virginia apparently has certain provisions for a recall. It would be interesting to collect some info on Virginias recall system, and any info regarding Cantor specifically. Has there been much mention of a Cantor recall in local or alternative media? -Spaq (talk) 04:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recall issue 

message: Do you not count Barney Frank?97.88.87.68 (talk) 09:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article doesn't say that he is the only Jewish Congressman. It says he's the only Republican Jewish Congressman. Barney Frank is a Democrat (and will be retiring in January anyway). GabrielF (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is not the only Jewish Congressman 

message: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/309755-report-cantor-raps-committee-chairmen-over-farm-bill-vote
Is Cantor's failure on the farm bill notable yet? Hcobb (talk) 14:40, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farm bill failure 

message: Is the below really appropriate for a biography of a living person?
As House Majority Leader, Cantor was named in House Resolution 368, which was passed by the House Rules Committee on the night of September 30, 2013, the night before the October 2013 government shutdown began, as the only member of the House with the power to bring forth bills and resolutions for a vote if both chambers of Congress disagree on that bill or resolution. Prior to the resolution's passing in committee, it was within the power of every member of the House under House Rule XXII, Clause 4 to be granted privilege to call for a vote. This amendment to the House rules was blamed for causing the partial government shutdown and for prolonging it since Cantor refused to allow the Senate's continuing resolution to be voted on in the House. Journalists and commentators noted during the shutdown that if the Senate's version of the continuing resolution were to be voted on, it would have passed the House with a majority vote since enough Democrats and Republicans supported it, effectively ending the government shutdown.[17][18][19] 
It's extremely current event focused, and it's also not true: "as the only member of the House with the power to bring forth bills and resolutions for a vote if both chambers of Congress disagree on that bill or resolution" is flatly inaccurate - 1) the resolution only applied to the bill under consideration, and House Rule XXII Clause 4 is NOT the only way to bring a bill to the floor of the House.  It is one of the ways.
Not to mention that it is counterfactually speculative "it would have passed the House".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SirJohnOldcastle (talk • contribs) 01:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it really necessary to mention the government shutdown? 

message: Under the "Personal Life" section, Cantor's wife's name is presented in two different forms:
"Cantor met his wife, Diana Marcy Fine, on a blind date;. . .Fine is a lifelong, liberal Democrat. . ."
- AND -
"Diana Cantor is a lawyer. . ."
What name does the woman herself use - Fine or Cantor? Please edit the article accordingly. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 05:52, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wife's name? 

message: In the "Political campaigns" section, under the "2000" subsection, there is a passage that reads as follows:
"..Benjamin A. Gilman of New York, who had been the only Jewish Republican since the departure of S. William Green in 1992."
This is incorrect.
Dick Zimmer (New Jersey politician), also a Jewish Republican, was originally elected in 1990 and served three terms (until 1996).
The passage in the article should be edited to correct this erroneous passage.
72.82.174.140 (talk) 06:07, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you - fixed it by removing Green and not adding Zimmer, both of whom are not relevant to Cantor. Tvoz/talk 19:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Read the cited sources: "“I will not be on the ballot in November,” he said." HammerFilmFan (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Political campaigns section

message: This sentence in the lead seems a violation of WP:CRYSTAL to me. Do we have firm indication that he won't run as an independent to maintain his seat? Evan (talk|contribs) 01:48, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the cited sources: "“I will not be on the ballot in November,” he said." HammerFilmFan (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cantor will remain a member of Congress until..." 

message: The article mentions that Rep. Cantor's district includes part of the Shenandoah Valley. This is not true. The 7th District, as configured since 2013, stretches from New Kent County in the Tidewater of Virginia, to Culpeper County in the Northern Piedmont of Virginia. At no point does his district cross the Blue Ridge Mountains into the Valley of Virginia or the Shenandoah Valley. In fact, his district does not even reach to the eastern base of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The easiest place to check is the map of Virginia Congressional Districts.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.5.238.94 (talk) 02:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boundaries of 7th district of Virginia 

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