Talk:Kerry babies case

message: Was this the dumbest moment in the history of the Gardai? Probably.
Curtains99 21:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Superfecundation

message: Please improve this by getting a citation; the shrink is seemingly called Dr John Fennelly, and the references that I've given show him describing Joanne Hayes as a Sociopath, but I have been unable to find any on-line reference to his admitting his definition covered half the population (even though it unsurprisingly caused quite a stir at the time, which is why I remember it), although there must be several offline references to it in books on the subject (probably including the Tom Inglis book already referenced), and in the backcopies of the Irish Times in UCD Library, but I don't have easy access to either. Tlhslobus (talk) 05:30, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Sociopath

message: The sentence mentioning Nell McCafferty's book seems standalone and a little out of place, in that the paragraph doesn't flow well.  Could anyone who has read it expand on it, perhaps giving it a short paragraph?  (And indeed ditto Joanne Hayes' My Story).  Educationhousejavert (talk) 14:04, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Nell McCafferty's Book

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message: The guarda case against Joanne Hayes was dropped by order of the DPP four months after it began, not four years.
Strictly, the DPP ordered that the case against her be not proceeded with in the courts.
Korhomme (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. All of MOS:CAPS, WP:TITLECAPS and WP:NCCAPS support the move, if there is no "substantial majority" of sources capitalizing "Kerry Babies case" in that form, given that "Kerry Babies" is not a proper name. I do not believe a substantial majority has been demonstrated, here; therefore, the lowercase form of "Kerry babies case", in sentence case, fits Wikipedia's policies best. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 23:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Kerry Babies case →  – Some of the sources don't capitalise "Babies" (e.g., in the headlines for Irish Independent, Irish Times, BBC). Uppercase for a plural is often hard to justify, and the word "case" is not capped. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 08:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose. The 'c' in case not being capitalised is irrelevant to discussion. Many sources - including some of the ones you list above - do indeed capitalise the Kerry Babies case. See, e.g., the Irish Independent, The Journal, the BBC, and RTÉ, Ireland's national broadcaster. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, some do capitalize, while others don't. Generally, when the sources are mixed, Wikipedia prefers lowercase, per MOS:CAPS: "" WP:TITLECAPS: "". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 11:00, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

text: The lowercase 'c' is not irrelevant. In "Cuban Missile Crisis", the whole phrase is treated as a proper noun, including the word "Crisis". If "Crisis" was not capitalized, "Missile" wouldn't be either. "Cuban Missile crisis" doesn't make sense as a sentence case title, because "Cuban Missile" is not a proper noun. Here, "Kerry Babies case" doesn't make sense as a sentence case title, because "Kerry Babies" is not a proper noun (per Dicklyon below). Thus, one could more easily argue that the title should be "Kerry Babies Case" than that it should be "Kerry Babies case". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 08:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 May 2023