Talk:Agriculture in the United States

message: There is no mention of fish in this article. Does not fishing, fish farms and aquaculture play some part in US agriculture? --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fish

message: Does anyone have more information on the subsidies that the industry receives, as in how much, who it goes to etc?  A little discussion about how it impacts world markets and is said to hurt the developing world seems appropriate as well.  I think this is a big part of the agriculture picture in the US...  TastyCakes (talk) 19:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See Agricultural_subsidy#United_States. -- Beland (talk) 23:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Subsidies etc

message: I just put a little basic, much needed fact, though not written well...
The link i gave has all the basic facts we need for this page.
This needs to be drastically expanded.
Is there anywhere else in wikipedia where the basic farming information is given? It's hard to believe that this subject is not touched in more detail.
I'll add things to this article as I go, and may do a major expansion at some point.
NittyG (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Basic Info!

message: I read that the U.S. was starting to import more food than it exported in 1999, which would be a notable development.  It would be interesting to have data on the history of import/export balance, and also some coverage of what the top import vs. export agricultural items are. -- Beland (talk) 23:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Import/export

message: Somebody deleted half a text right now! Could you, please, put it back??? Thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.18.179 (talk) 02:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I want "agriculture in the USA" back . Please add farmers also. 

message: I found the following 43 links from http://www.abyznewslinks.com/, but there are too many to list under Agriculture in the United States#External links and there are not more specific articles such as Agriculture in California, so I am listing them here. -- Wavelength (talk) 19:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Wavelength (talk) 19:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I dont like having these links here, as its very spammy. I think though, if many of these are statewide newsletters, it simply points to the need for separate articles on the agriculture of various states. I suggested one for California below, an obvious one. we have articles on wine by state. i know a lot of this would be boring, and repetitious, esp. with products that are found in each state. but, arent there some differences by state? sugar beets in the north, rice in california, citrus in florida, sugar  cane/pineapples in hawaii, oats i believe are concentrated in certain states. Any reason not to have some?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 09:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links (news sources) 

message: Given its importance, I think we need Agriculture in California, maybe more so than many other states. i wonder if doing state by state articles has been discussed. i know we have wine articles for each state.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 09:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the poor state of even this article, I am hesitant to suggest starting a whole series. But if you want to do a one-off for California, we could see how it goes. Rmhermen (talk) 18:22, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe rather than starting a fork, those efforts should be put into this article, as Rmhermen says, it's not in the shape we'd prefer for such a major topic. Shadowjams (talk) 08:30, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure if this has advanced any further in the past few years, but seeing that Agriculture in California is still in such poor shape, I am going to start building out that page. Relevant sections and information can be transferred over to this page as well. If there are any new ideas on what should be included, please message me. Jennifer Rosemary (talk) 05:35, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Agriculture in California

message: I realize this talk page volume is low, but for those that do happen across it, please weigh in, or help contribute, to some of these ideas.
This is a substantial industry topic and its breadth isn't as wide as it could be. It also has a lot of opportunities for other topics to be linked out of it. This should be the umbrella article for agricultural topics in the U.S., yet its structure and the lack of content on those make it very hard for it to be a good umbrella article right now.
Here are some suggestions
# Expand the crop section, as well as the agricultural products section; major crop and livestock categories should have subsections. Cereals, livestock (meats, poultry, dairy), aquaculture (not sure what consensus is on this), fruits/vegetables, etc. I'm not suggesting a subheading for every crop, just for the broad classes.
# Expand the government section. We have a plethora of articles that could be linked out for more info, but should have a better mention (United States House Committee on Agriculture is a good example).
# Pictures - there are so many animal and crop pictures out there, and this is an easy photo request too. We could have many high-quality relevant photos included.
# The Agricultural history of the United States is a good article on a subset topic. The history section is good, but perhaps someone should make sure our history section highlights all the key points in that article.
# Employment - This section will be straightforward. I'm thinking breakdowns on the types of labor forces and how they differ geographically, breakdown on demographics within that, OSHA statistics on injury and other issues.
# Split health and safety into safety concerns for farmers (put that into the employment section), and environmental concerns for the ecosystem, etc. This can encompass other issues, such as the soil article, and the honeybee collapse reference.
These are just some ideas. I'd like to hear other editors' as well. I'll try to start in on some of the modest additions soon. Shadowjams (talk) 08:45, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just swung by and notice that the child workers is too long and probably needs to be summarized and spun off. On the subject of photos, do we want all modern photos since there is a history article on the subject? Rmhermen (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of that extraneous stuff was added by a new editor in a single edit here, which seems as though it may have been copy pasted from somewhere. Paris1127 recently cleaned it up, but I agree, more of it should be chopped or transferred into an appropriate article. As for the pictures, there's only 5, and there's no need to exclude historic photos just because we have a history article. Shadowjams (talk) 02:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

text: I just looked into it, and large swaths of the added child labor material is directly taken from a government study, it would appear. I don't know where the original comes from, but this link matches a lot of it. I didn't dig much deeper to see how much of what was added is copied, but this is an issue. It needs to be reworked; I wouldn't oppose someone removing the bulk of it and adding it back in properly with cites, etc. Shadowjams (talk) 02:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just realized that I had mentioned this to the editor 2 months ago... but forgotten to follow up. I'll probably remove a lot of it and rework it back in, since that account's only edit (before and now) is that massive addition of at least partially plagiarized material. Shadowjams (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Road map for expansion, ideas, improvement 

message: I'm not sure that I understand what is meant by the following sentences:
::The only other crops to ever appear in the top 20 in the last 40 years were commonly tobacco, barley, and oats, and rarely, peanuts, almonds, and sunflower seeds (in all, only 26 of the 188 crops the FAO tracks worldwide).
The first sentence is referring to only US agricultural production.  I'm not sure about the second sentence (in parentheses).  It seems like the sentence is stating that US agricultural production has only produced a total of 26 crops that that have ever appeared in the top FAO's top 20 list.  The FAO's site lists the top 50 crops of each country by value and quantity, and the 50th US crop is ranked 19 in the world in terms of value. (And six in terms of quantity).
I believe that someone made the mistake of taking the Commodities by country list and mistaking it for the Country rank in the world, by commodity list.  The latter list has 50 agricultural products listed that all fall with the top 17 or the top 19 in 2003 and 2012 respectively.
I'll remove the sentence in parentheses.  If I am just completely missing something, please feel free to revert, but please explain to me where my mistake is. 
Incidently, the FAO is revamping their site, the new site will be here. --IP.303Talk 07:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No it means that only 26 of the 188 crops have ever appeared in the U.S. top 20. Rmhermen (talk) 02:51, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article contradicts a source 

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message: , you removed my content, claiming that meatpacking is not part of agriculture. This seems silly to me. Of course slaughtering is part of animal agriculture. Slaughter is defined as, killing of animals especially for food. Agriculture involves all food production. Please return my content. RockingGeo (talk) 05:31, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Is milling part of agriculture? Canning? Fuel ethanol processing? Rum making? Where is the line? Rmhermen (talk) 02:06, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meatpacking as agriculture 

message: Hello. Is there a list of pages needing updating that this page could be added to? The 2017 USDA Census of Agriculture is out now and contains more current figures than found on this page. I cannot update it myself. Sorry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.133.39.9 (talk) 22:34, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2017 USDA Census of Agriculture<ref>https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/AgCensus/2017/</ref>