Talk:Antwerp

message: Why is the Spanish name of Antwerp here??? I understand the French name because a part of Belgium speak French.
:Belgium was part of the Spanish Netherlands before, that's why. --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 12:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on, that's silly. It hasn't been ruled by Spain in 300 years. Spanish is no longer a relevant language in this city. 71.156.15.164 (talk) 00:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not all that silly. The Spanish language may not be relevant in Antwerp (nor is French, which is spoken in a different part of Belgium), but Spanish rule plays a crucial role in the history of the city. (Antwerp remained Spanish during the Dutch revolt, see the articles introduction.) Jaho (talk) 15:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  To give an example of why it's not silly, the man who designed the cathedral at Granada in Andalucia (Spain), trained with the St. Lucas guild in Antwerp. There was an enormous exchange of art and culture between the Southern Netherlands and Spain during the reigns of Charles V and Philip II. Any serious student of art history would need to know that Amberes means Antwerp. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Name in Spanish

message: Why does the population between 1545 and 1570 decline by 60,000 as stated by the statistics in the article? 81.151.89.234 22:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why does the population between 1545 and 1570 decline by 60,000?

message: It was claimed that Rubens is not a Baroque painter. This is quite bizarre. See e.g. here: 
" The Flemish painter Peter Paul Rubens is considered the most important artist of the 17th century, whose style became an international definition of the animated, exuberantly sensuous aspects of baroque painting. "
Or here:
"  Estilo: Barroco Centroeuropeo"
Or finally:
"Flemish painter who was the greatest exponent of Baroque painting's dynamism, vitality, and sensuous exuberance."
I think we can safely conclude that Rubens was a baroque painter ;-) Fram 14:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rubens is a Baroque painter

message: I don't see why people who read this article in English should be given the French, Spanish, or, why not, Italian, Portuguese and Latin names of this city in the first place.
This article is in English, and the city of Antwerp is Dutch-speaking.  It makes sense to use the English name Antwerp; and it is essential to state that the official name is Antwerpen. People who want to look for further information will need that name?. But to include the French name of the city might lead people to thinking that the French name is also official, and therefore useful for further research. This is especially the case with Belgian towns, as many foreigners tend to believe that Belgium is French-speaking, or has a French-speaking majority, or uses French as its national official language. None of this is actually true.
Leaving out the French (and Spanish) name would also bring the articles about Dutch-speaking places more in correlation with other articles on the English version of Wikipedia. The articles on London and Scotland do not state the French and German names. The articles on Geneva and Milan do not include the German names for these cities. And the articles on French-speaking provinces in Wallonia don't contain the Dutch names of "Mons" and "Hainaut". So why should we make an exception for Dutch places? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.197.33.214 (talk) 18:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And as for the reverse: at least Namur (city) lists "Namen" as the Dutch language version in the intro. I don't think it is unreasonable for major Belgian cities to list both versions, as long as the local name comes first, and the text explains explicitly or omplicitly which language is the local language.  Fram 20:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why include the French name at all? 

message: Isnt the place famouse for diamond trade? Cacophony 03:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should this information be included in the article?  I came here hoping to read something about the Antwerp diamond trade and was disappointed not to find anything. -Sarfa 05:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It most definitely should, it's pretty much the only recent thing antwerp is renowned for.. i'll try to find some interesting articles about it and add some more info here.. Fisheke 08:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diamonds 

message: College is not an adequate translation of "hogeschool". 
The closest UK English offers is "polytechnical college" but since the transformation of all polytechnical colleges into universities in that country, one hesitates to use the term. 
Personally I would let "hogeschool" stand, but if it must be translated I suggest using "College of Further/Higher Education". 
It should be pointed out that the Flemish hogescholen have adopted the Ba(chelor)Ma(ster) structure. Augusta2 00:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree. A "Technical university" is +/- similar to a Hogeschool. Idem for a college.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.65.79.196 (talk) 18:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a tricky subject. What we belgians call a university can be called a haute-école in france (for example), while a hogeschool is more like a université. While a college in the UK is often what we call a "faculteit" of a university. Polytechnical is also not to evident, considering that most of the courses in a hogeschool are nothing polytechnical (polytechnical in belgium means "engineering"). BUT.. i know of at least one hogeschool (GroepT) that officially uses the name "university college" in all their english communication. One possible solution is to just use the english translation the instituion itself uses? Fisheke (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Educational institutions 

message: I don't want to start anything, but I just reverted an edit that changed all instances of "Dutch" language to "Flemish". I don't mind either way, and would accept it completely if discussing pronunciation, word choice, Flemish language literature and theatre and the "language on the street", but it seems to be a touchy enough point for some that I think consensus should be reached. Somewhat unrelated, I also reverted changing "Scheldt" to "Schelde". This is the English Wikpedia, so the English name of the river should be used. Ideas, anyone? --Stomme (talk) 06:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The language is Dutch, not Flemish, so I agree with your reverts (also for Scheldt). Fram (talk) 09:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I also completely agree with Dutch instead of Flemish, which is officially just a dialect. Also the correct name of the river is Scheldt in English (and Escaut in French). Fisheke (talk) 01:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: I was wondering where the St. Anna's Tunnel is mentioned in this article. It does not seem to be. I just uploaded a photo on wikicommons that can be found |here if somebody wants to use it. Meanwhile, if I get down to searching for the article on this tunnel and dont find one, I will write it up.
Prashanthns (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Anna's Tunnel 

message: How is the infobox working for this article? I couldn't find out how to update the population figure.--Pjred (talk) 07:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: "Antwerp has an extensive network of synagogues, shops, schools and organizations, within the Machsike Hadas community."
Suppose the meaning of this sentence might be conciderably more clear, if before "shops, etc." the words "exclusively Jewish" would be inserted. VKing (talk) 09:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Jews

message: I've heard the phrase "Antwerp Massive" in some music I listen to; looking it up it seems a reggae and dancehall movement based in Antwerp. So why no mention in the article of this? Am I mistaken somewhere? Dragosian (talk) 10:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're not mistaken, it is just not notable at all. We don't list every shop, movement, group, band, artist, gallery, venue, festival, ... in Antwerp, only the truly notable ones. Fram (talk) 11:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Antwerp Massive

message: Antwerp and the surrounding areas had a huge importance in the beginnings of WWI with British troops committed in attempts to bolster Belgian defenses. Eventually they were overwhelmed, or at least fell back, leaving Germany open to even the possibility of invading Britain. Yet I do not see any mention of this on the page. If I am looking at the wrong page or something, my bad, so could an admin please tell me so? Thanks. Uberlieder (talk) 23:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Choosing a likely subtopic, alert the Military History WikiProject with a link to this Talk page and your query. -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:32, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WW1 

message: At the foot of this entry is the external website "Tourism Antwerp" which links to www.visitantwerp.be.  When I click this link I am prompted for a user name and password.  I therefore feel that this link should be removed as per WP:ELNO.  Careful With That Axe, Eugene Hello... 16:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unusable link 

message: Perhaps the article should mention the red-light district, "The Quarter of the Skippers". It's on the tourist trail, but I only saw it in the day time and it was rather drab. Someone got it wrong, too - "the Quarter of the Kippers", they called it. Ausseagull (talk) 19:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Skippers

message: In order to understand monetary issues there?
Iwanttoeditthissh (talk) 07:19, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Should there be a heading on the economy?

message: in 1555 there was the the begining of joint stock companies and things culminating in dutch east india company in the 1600's decade. in my 1970 world enclycledpia i used to have in it said mentioning of this.
76.253.142.197 (talk) 22:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  first stock exchange 

message: A couple of the photos are duplicated and should be consolidated.Mwinog2777 (talk) 17:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

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replies: text: I can't see why it should be deleted. It has been released for public use by the owner, see the page. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is not with the picture (which was uploaded to commons under GFDL), but with the architectural copyrights of the building. In Belgium, images of buildings are considered derivative works of the building itself. A similar problem exists with the atomium in Brussels, and consequently you can't upload images of that building to commons. Well, I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I make of it. Jaho (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Or as the template on the deleted page summarizes it: Image is of a modern building in Antwerp, Belgium. There is no freedom of panorama (FOP) in Belgium. (See also :Commons:Freedom of panorama and :Commons:Freedom of panorama#Belgium.) Jaho (talk) 23:53, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed reference to the deleted image from the article now. Jaho (talk) 00:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: File:Museum Aan de Stroom Maurice van Bruggen.JPG Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: The article carries the template {This article needs additional citations for verification} since october 2011. Some sections certainly should have additional references, but they're separately tagged (also since october 2011). The article as a whole has (as of this writing) 38 references, and many sections are adequately referenced. I'm removing the {refimprove} tag from the article's heading, as I feel it's redundant and/or no longer needed. Jaho (talk) 00:23, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing ''refimprove'' tag 

message: In the lede, the sentence "However the Brussels-Capital Region is considered as the largest Belgian city internationally" appears. I realize that the writer is probably not a native English speaker, and I'm happy to edit the sentence, I just can't figure out what it's supposed to mean.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TCSaint (talk • contribs) 16:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear text: 

message: "The recognition of the independence of the United Provinces by the Treaty of Münster in 1648 stipulated that the Scheldt should be closed to navigation"
According to "Chambers Dictionary of World History" this was a confirmation of what had been the case since after the fall of Antwerp to the Spanish in 1588, but I can't find a precise date.Ledmatt (talk) 11:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closure of Scheldt 

message: Under the air section in transportation, it is claimed that there is a direct train connection between Antwerp and Charleroi. I believe this statement should be emitted, as this is not of additional value. This phrases suggests that the train goes directly to the airport, which is not the case. Brussels South Airport is not reachable by train.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1810:3819:1500:68FA:6B8:CD23:9B62 (talk) 20:15, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Railway connection to Charleroi Airport 

message: I propose to take the section about the fortifications into a separate lemma and leave only a sumary in the ANtwerp page --DerekvG (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  fortifications  

message: I just removed following text with literature refences:
by 1560s with some 200,000 people.
and a repeat mention of these same figures and refernces further down in the text.
These quotes are disputed, and for good reason, although the editor did a good job mentioning the sources, (s)he interpreted the qoutes wrong and the text doesn't reflect the content of the source--DerekvG (talk) 10:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job, see also the discussion on User talk:Caribounomade's talk page. They mention some other interesting sources - the demographics section should be rewritten to be more consistent.--Lemnaminor (talk) 13:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  indeed  I will get those refences on the page --DerekvG (talk) 15:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  disputed population figure  1568 

message: What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Antwerp]] 

message: Substituted at 08:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I noticed such a section is missing. LibStar (talk) 03:04, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography section

message: The early phrase "...is the world's second most multi-cultural city (after Amsterdam)" is something I was trying to verify. The references are to a news page and a tourism site, but neither seem to have a proper justification for the assertion - the statements do appear in the refs, but as in-passing comments. I have tried to find a source for "most multi-cultural city" which ranks Ams first and Antwerp second, and can't find one. I was hoping to improve the page by giving a more definitive/scientific reference. I do not think the linked references are good enough to back-up the claim. (NB: I have NOT edited the page). Jonknox (talk) 14:17, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multicultural ranking 

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message: Why did the Portuguese merchants leave in 1549?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DlronW (talk • contribs) 02:04, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Portuguese merchants left in 1549" 

message: I've found a couple of references (and several tweets & blogs) which claim that the Antwerpse Handjes delicacy represent the hands which were cut from Congolese nationals who were disfigured or murdered during Leopold II's occupation. I'm not sure how reliable the sources are, so I'm hesitant to add anything to the local products section. Does anyone have anything reliable to support or refute the claims that the history of these products is connected to what happened in the Congo Free State? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antwerp hands confectionery 

message: The edits look good to me but it is a new editor or editors and they are pretty sweeping changes. I don't have time to look at everything closely. —DIYeditor (talk) 08:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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