Talk:Multihull

message: Although much improved from before, a three months later self-review indicates that this section needs either expansion or a re-think, with possibly a different approach, to get the same points across. At the moment, it feels either incomplete or only teaches the concept to those that already know it.
:--Slamlander (talk) 02:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Multihull#Fundamental departure in concept]] needs different approach

message: Western nautical traditions were built around moving large quantities of goods. Naturally, boats capable of carrying large payloads developed over the centuries, a job best handled by deep, wide hulls. On the far side of the Earth, across the southern Pacific, a different type of seafaring evolved. Cargos were very light - boats carried a few passengers and a minimal amount of gear. These sailors developed boats that were light and fast -- long thin hulls lashed together in numerous ways to achieve the stability needed to carry poweful sails.
When recreational boating grew popular in the West, not surprisingly traditional boat forms were adapted to the use. Small and large, typical sailboats can trace their heritage back to fishing and cargo boats. The faster types might be derived from types such as pilot boats - themselves an evolution of western marine traditions. Racing rules through the late 19th and 20th centuries were almost universally based on the notion that a sailboat has one hull, all but preventing experimentation and development of multihull types.
In the past 40 years, the thinking has changed dramatically. Early pioneers such as James Wharram and Arthur Piver were inspired by the South Pacific multihulls and spent their lives (Wharram is still at it) adapting these types to the needs of modern recreational sailing.
A sail on a modern multihull designed for cruising is a revelation to anyone who has spent time on a typical cruising monohull. The multihull hardly heels at all, the motion is much more agreeable to most, they stay upright and carry sail when the monohull is heeling hard and must reduce canvas, and they are just plain fast. But remarkable to anyone new to the type - at typical cruising speeds these boats don't feel that fast. The crew doesn't have to brace themselves and hang on, and they don't find themselves dodging sheets of water thrown up over the bows.
In racing, incredible speeds have been achieved by huge catamarans and trimarans. The round-the-world sailing record is currently held by Orange II, a catamaran that completed the journey in 50 days,16 hours, 20 minutes and 4 seconds at an average speed of 22.
20 knots. The course covered 21,600 miles. These are sustained speeds thought impossible for a sailboat a generation ago.
Monohulls will continue to excel at moving cargo, but to move people quickly and comfortably, multihulls have more than proven to have considerable advantages.
::This is a good bit and I'm trying to find a place for it. I need the original author though.
::BTW, I don't agree that monohulls will continue to excell at moving cargo. Their ballast makes them inefficient.
:::Slamlander (talk) 16:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs a home

message: This article is somewhat "small racing cat" biased.  Nw that's ok since dubtless the early editors had that as experience, but surely it needs expansin into multihull commercial craft?
It's also rather light on trimarans.
Is a "Quadramaran" a raft?  (tngue in cheek!)
Fiddle Faddle 17:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the scope critique. Working on it - Slamlander (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs much more on all types of Multihulls 

message: Some writers hear have gotten into "selling" the multihull concept as an alterantive to monohull.  An objective in Wikipedia is to present a nuetral POV (point of view).
Kevin Murray 23:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kevin: I'm still not done but would cast a sailor's eye view at what's there now? Slamlander (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of Opinion and unsupported POV 

message: Craft include those that sail on water, these include marine vessels and hovercraft. Vessels displace water, and include ships, which are larger than boats. This article uses ship most frequently, even when discussing vessels that are clearly craft, E.g. proas. I plan to make the terminology more consistent, appropriate and general. User:HopsonRoad 23:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hierarchy of terms 

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: *Beachable as in beachable catamaran
*Beachcats
*Dinghy-sized
*Beach as in beach catamarans
 Dinghy-sized catamarans are sometimes referred to as "Beach Catamarans".
These are some of the terms I've come across.  The article should cover that. 213.149.61.151 (talk) 23:40, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. We use reliable sources in our articles. Can you supply links to an article for each of the terms that you advocate for? Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 13:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types by size 

message: Multihull Rating Formulas https://www.sfbama.org/racing/multihull_ratings_general_form.htm used when multiple multihull classes race against each other to  calculate combined result, similar to ORC racing. 213.149.61.151 (talk) 15:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison formulas 

message: As far as I can see, all references to a SWATH gondola use Dubrovsky's work as a citation and are written by non-native speakers. I did see an Australian article, describing an acoustic pod and calling it a "gondola", but the gondola wasn't a buoyant hull. If you can find native speakers, who use it in the context described, and its widespread use in the literature, then I'm fine with the term. This term isn't found in the SWATH article. If it's legitimate, then it should be introduced there, first. HopsonRoad (talk) 11:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Au contraire; on page 323 of the article it says: "A Small Water-plane Area Twin-Hull Ship(SWATH) includes two submerged hulls (gondolas) and one or more water surface piercing parts (struts) on each gondola." QED? Arrivisto (talk) 13:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I meant that it's not found in Small-waterplane-area twin hull. If the word is found in literature by native English speakers, then I'm fine. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 13:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gondola? 

message: Warren Mosler of Modern Monetary Theory notoriety invented a Tandem Cat multihull which has two pontoons up front and two pontoons at the back. He believes that this means that you never have a wave wetting the midpoint of the boat trying to break the boat in half. I think this design is notable because it is proven to be able to operate in very inclement weather. Also modern torpedoes are designed to break a ship's back, and warships designed along these lines would be immune to this.
https://www.maritimejournal.com/news101/vessel-build-and-maintenance/ship-and-boatbuilding/rough-sea-quad-hulled-cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W97s3zbFKvc&feature=youtu.be&t=3050
Thuanjinkee (talk) 14:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Tandem Hull