Talk:Gilles Villeneuve

message: I heard somewhere that he was still barely alive when the medical teams reached him, maybe could be worth researcing?
:According the Donaldson biography, which is a pretty highly regarded book, he was not declared dead until 9:12 that evening and had been maintained on a life support machine up to that point. There were attempts to resuscitate him immediately after the accident, but Prof Sid Watkins is of the view that the outcome was inevitable once the accident occured. This pretty much fits with what the article currently says. 4u1e 09:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Villeneuve alive when medics arrived?

message: How do you pronounce his name?
:Something like 'Geal (soft 'g', like 'generate') Veel - nerve' and camp up your French accent (Yes, I know, French-Canadian not the same as French!) Hope that helps, I don't know how that fancy phonetic notation works. If anyone does, they could add it to the article :) 4u1e
::I've rather dubiously come up with this:  for pronunciation. Anyone know if that's right? 4u1e 21:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, the phonetic notation in the article is correct:  ʒil vilnœv is the correct French-Canadian pronounciation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.87.230.199 (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to know. I got the one used in the article with the help of some people on the help desk. Cheers. 4u1e 08:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: OK - I reckon this is pretty much there (Apologies for the delay over references!). I've put it on the portal as the 'Selected Article'. Well done to all those who contributed! I've also nominated it for Good Article status, which will probably take a couple of weeks to come through, judging by the backlog on the nominations page. Cheers! 4u1e 08:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected Article 

message: I have passed the article as a Good article as I felt it was an excellent read. With some extra work this could easily be made a featured article. Pascal.Tesson 02:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA passed

message: I don't normally so this, but I really feel that the changes made to the 'pre-Formula One' section recently did not benefit this article at all. I have reverted that section only to the version of around 25 August. There were some spelling and grammar errors, but I'm afraid that the worst thing was that the logic of the writing went completely. If anyone wants to go into I can cover it point by point. Always happy to discuss, either here or at my talk page.
I will work back in some of the extra information that had been added though. Cheers. --4u1e 17:58, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of changes to Pre-F1 

message: Le Journal de Montréal reports today that a mechanic failure on the Ferrari car---the accelerator being stocked down at full speed---was the cause of Gilles Villeneuve going so fast at this portion of the race in the deadiest round. Also, the same journal reports that the Ferrari team would have forgotten to put a metal plaque underneath the seat, a plaque needed to solidity the grip of the safety belt. The lack of the plaque weakened the grip of the safety belt which failed to tie Villeneuve to his seat and thus avoid the deadly injuries that he suffered from his falling down the ground after being projected so high and so fast.
Okay, I found the article here:
http://www2.canoe.com/sports/nouvelles/archives/2007/05/20070508-094707.html 
Here is an excerpt:
Gilles était donc dans sa dernière tentative pour devancer Pironi, tandis que Jochen Mass, avec sa March, roulait au ralenti à l'entrée d'un virage après son dernier tour rapide. 
Le Québécois a été éjecté avec son siège, ce qui l'a tué sur le coup (...) Plus tard, on a su qu'on avait oublié de mettre une plaque sous son siège afin de solidifier les attaches des ceintures de sécurité. 
Il y a cinq ans, lors du 20e anniversaire, nous avions dévoilé la cause de cet accident : un accélérateur coincé, tout simplement. De son vivant, Gaston Parent n'avait confié cette information qu'à quelques personnes.  «À l'époque, j'avais signé des documents de confidentialité avec monsieur Ferrari concernant les véritables causes de l'accident ainsi qu'une renonciation d'engager des poursuites afin d'accepter, au nom des héritiers de Gilles, des avantages financiers, nous avait-il dit. Après 20 ans, il est temps que la vérité soit connue.»  Cela n'a rien changé à la triste fin, sauf qu'il n'a pas été victime d'une erreur de pilotage, mais bien d'une défaillance mécanique.
:Now that's interesting! I'm out of time now, but will come back and have a closer look at this later today. Cheers. 4u1e 08:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article states that Villeneuve lost his helmet before he was thrown from the wreck. I have often wondered about this. The preferred helmet of the day was a GPA, which used a unique clamshell method of fastening from underneath, so there was no chin strap at all. Villeneuve definitely used one. I have never read anything in the way of a coroner's report on this so I have no idea why it happened. What did happen was that GPA helmets seemed to disappear while other brands like Bell and Arai became more popular. GPA, as a motorsport helmet manufacturer, apparently went out of business in the 1980s. Does anyone know if there is a connection between the two events?Flanker235 (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death 

message: I think that I might be able to reference this with Gilles Villeneuve: A Photographic Portrait, but it would have to wait until my term ends in March.--Diniz(talk) 09:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Shall we leave it out for now, and put it in in March when you've got access to the book? I'll mostly be working with Donaldson's biography - there might be something in there, but I don't remember it if so. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 10:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, identical wording appears at ddavid's site, so I'm not sure whether we've had a copyvio here for the last few years! 4u1e (talk) 18:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introverted 

message: The association with number 27 is a bit of a myth really - he only used it in 1981 and 1982! He used 12 for longer than he used 27. Readro (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: True and I've edited to suit. However, although he only used it briefly, there does seem to be a strong association with it (I imagine it's why Jacques has used it so frequently, for example). This is sort of why the word 'iconic' is appropriate around Gilles - myths and legends have grown up around him, some supported by the facts, others not. 4u1e (talk) 18:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I assume it's because he was using 27 when he died that it has become attached to him. Readro (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number 27 

message: Where was he born? Richelieu or St-Jean-sur-Richelieu? These are totally different places.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.144.126.111 (talk) 11:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richelieu 

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message: The article currently contains the following statement: "Villeneuve's helmet carried a stylised 'V' in red on either side — an effect he devised with his wife Joann. The base colour was black.", quoting page 95 of Gerald Donaldson's book Gilles Villeneuve as a reference. However this 2020 Motor Sport interview with Jacques Villeneuve identifies the colours as orange and blue, and even goes into detail: "Again, there was no explanation about the design, but it was very precise. The blue needed to be very deep, almost black. The orange had to be very deep too, but not red. He surely had an idea, but it didn’t represent anything in particular." It certainly looks "orange and blue" in the photo accompanying that interview (compare the helmet colour to the Ferrari's red bodywork). Thoughts? DH85868993 (talk) 00:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has now been updated (not by me) to say "orange" and "blue" rather than "red" and "black". DH85868993 (talk) 04:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helmet colours