Talk:Ram Vaswani

message: I failed this article due to the fact that:
*It is very short
*It has a "Trivia" section, violating criteria 3b
*It has only one image.
Some P. Erson 16:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion followed up at User talk:Some P. Erson and User talk:Essexmutant. Hopefully everything resolved now. Essexmutant 00:06, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed GA 

message: There does not appear to be any information available in the public arena on Vaswani's childhood or education. If anyone has any referenced information on this, please improve the article by adding it. Thanks. Essexmutant 00:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Childhood

message: I declined GA status after reviewing the article according to the Good Article Criteria listed below. 
1. It is well written. - Needs Improvement
*The intro is very short compared to the recommendation of WP:LEAD. The most glaring absence is the assertation of notability that should be right there in the into paragraph. While the intro doesn't serve as just a regurgitation of what's to follow in the article, it should provide a reason to continue reading the article and a general overview of what's to come.
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.- Needs Improvement
*I don't feel the most references meet the burden of being reliable sources. I'm particularly concern with the large majority of references to the blog/forum site on the Hendon Mob. If you look at the guideline on Online sources you'll note that blog sources are not considered as favorably because they are not peer reviewed or scrutnized for any outside verification. I wouldn't balk at a few referencing minor claims. But with the exception of the Daily Telegraph, Swimming with Devilfish and maybe the poker.SportingLife.com refs, almost all them stand on sketchy ground. With the higher standard of being a living person bio, I can not pass an article for GA status in good conscious without having clear cut reliable sources.
*The in-line citations are all bunched up at the end of the paragraph, rather then at the end of the statement they are purported to support. This makes verification difficult unless the entire paragraph is being referenced by one cite. The presence of multiple citations and trying to figure out what verifies what is cumbersome. See Wikipedia:Footnotes]. While not a make or break consideration for GA, I would caution against over-referencing non-controversial details. In the current intro paragraph, I'm not sure of the need for 4 references.
3. It is broad in its coverage. - Weak Pass
*I appreciate the active work that the editors of the article have made in trying to find more "extra-curricular"  infomation to flesh out the background and life away from poker. Especially with the considerations of WP:BLP and the need to make sure there  is nothing potentially slanderous listed, this is not an easy task. While the article still looks thin in those areas, I will acknowledge that effort with a pass. 
*On a side note, I did leave the article curious about his overall signifigance to the sport. If that could be highlighted more, that would be a plus. Maybe include some information on how he got his various nicknames.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy - Pass
* The article maintains an excellent NPOV balance.
5. It is stable - Pass
*The article has progressed gracefully and the editors responded astutely to previous GA review.
6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. - Pass 
*Excellent pictures.
I encourage the editors to resubmit for GA nomination after these concerns are address. Overall, I thinks this article presents an interesting portrait or an interesting individual and I thank the editors for the time and effort they have put in to get the article to this point. If there is any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me. Agne 00:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Comments left on your Talk page. Essexmutant 01:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ramvaswani2.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ramvaswani3.jpg

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