Talk:Bill O'Reilly sexual harassment lawsuit

message: I have concerns about the Drudge report piece and the business about debt being appropriate for a BLP.  It seems very much like the "speculative, I heard it somewhere gossip" that the policy refers to.  If there are no objections, I'd advocate removing it expeditiously. Croctotheface 20:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Done. --However whatever 22:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

text: That's all from the lawsuit she filed.  Croctotheface (talk) 05:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was uncited and did not use exact words from the lawsuit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.89.225 (talk) 06:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  First off, please don't put spaces before your comments; it makes them appear in this quasi-unreadable box.  Instead, indent them with colons as I've been doing.  I don't see a problem with the fact that the words aren't quoted exactly; paraphrasing is certainly allowed and it did not purport to be a direct quote.  I don't see any evidence that the quote is misleading or the like.  As far as uncited, it is attributed within the text, as the sentence begins with "the complaint detailed."  It's not hard for anyone looking to track down the source to do so.  Naturally, if you feel that another wording (direct quote, etc.) is better, then you should edit the article.  Croctotheface (talk) 07:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLP concerns 

message: Is it really necessary to have an entry on someone that consists of nothing more than their involvement with someone else? There is absolutely no information about this woman other than her lawsuit against Bill O'Reilly. What is this purpose of her having her own entry here? 72.85.173.37 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is on the event you refer to, which is highly notable.  For more information on inclusion criteria for articles, see our guideine on notability, WP:N.  Also, just to be clear, the title of this article is Bill O'Reilly sexual harassment lawsuit; it's not an article about an individual.  If you believe that the article is currently talking too much about the person and not enough about the lawsuit, you're free to edit the article to reflect that if your changes improve the article.  Croctotheface (talk) 05:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does this entry exist? 

message: We can't have phrases like "Andrea Mackris' lawsuit who had suit him for sexual harassment" in Wikipedia.  It's barely coherent.  We can't mention O'Reilly's suit before Mackris's for at least two reasons.  First, this article is about Mackris's suit (hence the article title); second, O'Reilly's suit did not receive significant attention from sources compared to hers.  The section on the allegations should describe them and quote occasionally when it helps the description.  It should not be a dumping ground for the most salacious bits.  People who want more detail can read the complaint themselves.  Croctotheface (talk) 17:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  My version is clearly better  

message: Since the result of the AfD was merge, I'll go ahead and post what I think should be posted in the article:
Andrea Mackris, a former producer for The O'Reilly Factor, sued Bill O'Reilly for sexual harassment on October 13, 2004, seeking $60 million in damages in response to a lawsuit O'Reilly filed previously that day charging Mackris of extortion, alleging that she had threatened a lawsuit unless he paid her more than $60 million. In her allegations against Bill O'Reilly, Mackris claimed two types of legally cognizable sexual harassment claims that are not based upon physical contact: quid pro quo and hostile work environment. She produced quotations from alleged phone conversations between herself and O’Reilly in which he suggested various sexual fantasies he had for her. On October 15, 2004, Fox sought judicial permission to fire Mackris, but Mackris was never fired. On October 19, 2004, Mackris filed an amended complaint seeking further damages for illegal retaliatory actions by O'Reilly, Fox News, and the News Corporation-owned newspaper, The New York Post. On October 28, 2004, O'Reilly and Mackris reached an out-of-court settlement and dropped all charges against each other. According to several published reports, as part of the settlement, O'Reilly paid Mackris millions of dollars, but the terms of the agreement are confidential.
I'll go ahead and leave this up and if there are no objections, I'll move this and ask for an admin to complete the AfD. Soxwon (talk) 17:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been almost a week with no replies, I'll go ahead and merge. Soxwon (talk) 17:54, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge