Talk:Sons of the American Revolution

message: I find two of the more famous SAR members quite interesting.  They are Winston Churchill and King Carlos.  I would be very interested in learning who their ancestors were who fought in the American Revolution and the accompanying stories.  Very interesting indeed.  --Bumpusmills1 23:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: quote from Winston Churchill at http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/myths/myths/he-had-mayflower-ancestors
His mother, Jennie Jerome of Brooklyn, New York, later Lady Randolph Churchill, was a noted beauty of her day and Winston, as a young cavalry officer, shamelessly used all the influence she was able to bring to bear in his quest to see action in different parts of the globe from Cuba in 1895 and the North-West Frontier of India in 1897, to the Sudan in 1898 and South Africa in 1899. Through his maternal grandfather, Leonard Jerome, sometime proprietor and editor of The New York Times, he had at least two forebears who fought against the British in the American War of Independence: one great-grandfather, Samuel Jerome, served in the Berkshire County Militia while another, Major Libbeus Ball, of the 4th Massachusetts Regiment, marched and fought with George Washington's army at Valley Forge. Furthermore Leonard Jerome's maternal grandfather, Reuben Murray, served as a lieutenant in the Connecticut and New York Regiments, while his wife Clara's grandfather, Ambrose Hall, was a captain in the Berkshire County Militia at Bennington. Indeed I have found no evidence of any ancestor who fought with the British in this misguided conflict, which Chatham and Burke had been so eager to avoid!Mingusboodle (talk) 22:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: famous SAR members

message: The list of notable SAR members has gotten quite large.  I believe it distracts from the article, and we'd be better off if we split the list into a separate article "List of notable members of the Sons of the American Revolution."  It won't take much work, and I'm willing to do it, but I'd like a little feedback first. Canute (talk) 01:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: sounds good to me.  It's definitely distracting from the prose. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:26, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that we never did this, and in the meantime the list of former SAR members has grown to easily more than half of the article.  I'll wait a few days in case anyone objects; otherwise, I'd like to move all those sections to a new "List" article of notable SAR members, and reduce the size of this article by limiting the scope to the organization itself.  Let me know either way. Canute (talk) 18:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally got around to it.  List of Members of the Sons of the American Revolution.  Nothing has been removed from this article, yet.  I will eventually pare down the list here, but I'll pause for feedback. Canute (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, this fell off my radar.  I'm going to mercilessly gut the list on this page but ensure everyone is listed on List of Members of the Sons of the American Revolution.  I assume most would want to keep a short list, so I'll need your ideas on how to determine who to keep.  (Alternatively, we could just remove everyone and keep a link to the list page.) Canute (talk) 20:24, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of SAR members 

message: I talked to  on the IRC help channel; that's how they knew the LA Times would confirm Obama's eligibility. The LA Times definitely meets Wikipedia's standards of reliability, and it reports the head of the Iowa branch of the NSSAR himself invited Obama to join. We can both expect the head of a State branch of the NSSAR to be familiar with the eligibility criteria for his own organization and the LA Times to truthfully report on the invitation; I don't see any doubts here at all. If that helps, The New York Times and, for what it's worth, Crooks and Liars (not a particularly reliable source) confirm Obama's eligibility, too. Huon (talk) 21:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
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message: The article lists 6 U.S. presidents who qualify as patriot ancestors, but there is no citation.  The list includes George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and Andrew Jackson.  Without a citation, I'm curious if Washington should qualify for this list since he had no children.  In other words, he cannot be used to gain membership to the SAR.  I also question the exclusion of John Quincy Adams, who served as a U.S. diplomat during the Revolution. Note that JQA is also not listed anywhere else in the document although he was a literal son of John Adams.  Looking for clarification, thanks. Canute (talk) 17:41, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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