Talk:Tennessee Titans

message: Hello, I commend the work that has gone into both this article and 2006 Tennessee Titans season.  However, these article are completely unreferenced and I have tagged them as such.  Articles on Wikipedia need to compley with WP:V and WP:RS.  Please add some sources to this article so it does not get deleted.  Thanks and keep up the good work. Johntex\talk 16:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced

message: Shouldn't the Houston Oilers and the Tennessee Titans be split into seperate articles?  I think the two seperate incarnations of the franchise shoule be recognized individually.  We could have the Houston Oilers still around as a historical article, much like what other sports articles do already.  Dknights411 15:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some teams may have split articles, but some others don't, such as the Atlanta Braves. Might be a good idea to list some of the teams that do and don't, so we can have some comparisons to look at. - BillCJ 15:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I do not want to revisit this problem again from a couple of years ago concerning NFL team pages. Hockey has their own ways, baseball has a very inconsistent policy, and the NFL articles are treated differently. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Considering the Braves history is all on one page, you're supporting a split then, as the the Braves are MLB, and the NFL is different? - BillCJ 00:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the opposite of the hockey articles: no split. As for the baseball articles, I cannot make heads or tails what the exact policy is due to the AFD discussion I cited. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the clarification. I don't know the guidelines for any of the league projects, including the NFL. But yes, if the NFL project has a no-split guideline, we should abide by that. - BillCJ 01:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. AFAIK, among the four major North American sports leagues, NFL teams are merged, NHL are split, but MLB and NBA are inconsistent. I know that New Orleans Jazz is currently a disambig page. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I have to respectfully dissagree with your opinion Zzyzx11.  I personally believe that different incarnations of a franchise's own history deserve their own article.  Otherwise, we would be disrespecting that part of the team's history, as I feel this article does with the Houston Oilers.  If anything else, these types of articles should be split for historical purposes, not just for football, but across the entire spectrum. Dknights411 02:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I guess my biggest concern has to do with the fact that ever since the Patriots and Bears articles became FAs, and Chicago Bears seasons became a Wikipedia featured list, a number of Wikipedians have begun to model other NFL team articles after them. Not only the articles themselves, but also related categories, templates, and subarticles. As a result, these pages have begun to evolve very differently than the MLB, NBA, or NHL articles, templates, and subarticles (of course, the Titans pages have not been worked on yet). Currently, Colorado Avalanche#Seasons and records only lists the seasons since they started playing in Denver. If Chicago Bears seasons were split at the point where the Decatur Staleys moved to Chicago, I am not sure how that would effect its FL status. Also notice that Indianapolis Colts seasons is currently modeled after Chicago Bears seasons, starting "from the dawn of the Baltimore Colts team in 1953 to present." Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Using your examples, I would actually say yes to a split of those articles listed (although I would want to get a concensus for the Browns scenario).  My arguement is taht articles should be based upon incarnations, not franchises.  I would agree to having seperate articles for the Vancouver Grizzlies, the Minneapolis Lakers, even the Seattle Pilots, since they all would highlight a chapter in that franchise's life, no matter how big or small it may be.  I understand your use of logic in this sense, but as you yourself noted, there are a lot of emotional attatchments when talking about sports teams, like the Colts or the Expos when they moved.  Being too logical in this sense might alienate some of the older fans still bitter from the move.  I guess it is just me, but I strongly feel that logic can only take you so far in these cases.  It wouldn't hurt to have a seperate Houston Oilers article, wouldn't it? Dknights411 23:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: According to the IRS EIN 76-0611503, the TE Titans was established in 1999, not 1960. The Titans ™️ own the history of the retired name Houston Oilers, but they have completely disassociated themselves financially from the Houston Oilers. This needs to be clarified in all future references of the two teams. Former NFL Commissioner Tagliablue retired the name. https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/tennessee-titans-foundation,760611503/#funding Hisdpta (talk) 02:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Y'all are making your cases in the wrong place. The WP NFL Project has decided not to have separate pages for teams that have moved. Please take it up there. - BillCJ (talk) 22:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you ChargersFan (talk) 22:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Content of all the history was moved to History of the Tennessee Titans. Howver, Houston Oilers still redirects to that history page, similar to Chicago Cardinals redirecting to History of the Arizona Cardinals, and so on. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:47, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oilers/Titans split? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:TennesseeTitans 1000.png

message: Will people stop deleting the part about the Titans Blue uniforms becoming the home uniform? It is a fact, and I have found a source to support it. Hookemnate (talk) 18:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home uniforms 

message: The article contains this sentence: "Not willing to lose the Oilers, the city responded with $67 million in improvements to the Astrodome ..." 
That's not true. The city of Houston does not own nor did it pay to renovate the dome. The property is owned by Harris County, which owns the Reliant complex, including Reliant Stadium, Reliant Center (convention center) and other facilities at this location.
This Wikipedia article mentions that Harris County paid for the renovations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Astrodome
This document cites the county's ownership of the dome:
http://www.hchsa.org/downloads/1219329418.28081800_7a0dde0dd4/nfl_club_reconditioning_non_disturbance_and_attornment_agree.pdf
Marzolian (talk) 14:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership of the Astrodome 

message: I propose we split the Houston Oilers section into a seperate page, as no other team will be called the Oilers ever. I think the Tennessee Oilers/Titans should stay as one page though. To help back up my point, the Seattle SuperSonics (established 1970)  and the Montreal Expos (established 1969), the latter never winning a championship, and the former winning one, and both lasting about he same amount of time. I, of course, vot Yes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carolinapanthersfan (talk • contribs) 13:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion is several threads above this talk page. The current consensus for all NFL team articles, as per the WP NFL WikiProject, is to not split the pages, even though NBA and MLB articles in fact do where relevant. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Split the Oilers

message: What is the objective criteria for inclusion in the "Other notable players" section? It seems like it's been created specifically for McNair. — Bdb484 (talk) 20:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually removed it three times, and decided to quit fighting it, as it's not going to go away right now. His number will probably be retired next season, so the point will be moot at that time. I can see adding Eddie George and a few other players to the list too, but as you said, what would be the requirements? - BilCat (talk) 21:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds like you're agreeing that it should be out, right? — Bdb484 (talk) 02:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a source for McNair's number having already been retired, please cite it. I have heard a Titans' official state that they will probably retire the number this coming season. I've added a hidden note to help deter the re-adding there, but most of these people don't follow instructions very well. If you want to keep removing the "other notable players" heading, fine, but it will keep coming back. Have fun! I do disagree with it, but only marginally so - it's not worth continual removals to me, it kept coming back in odd places, and the recentism will wear off soon enough. - BilCat (talk) 17:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other notable players 

message: Simple question - why does the link for "Ryan Durand" on the 2009 NFL Draft page send me here? Duncan1800 (talk) 07:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd redirect 

message: There is a discrepancy between the team colors as listed by the Titans in their official media guide, and the NFL as listed in their Record and Fact Book.  I suggest the team itself is a better source - thoughts?  SixFourThree (talk) 13:45, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team colors 

message: The first sentence of the fifth paragraph of section 2, the text describes the new logo as, "a circle with three stars, similar to that found on the flag of Tennessee, containing a large "T" with a trail of flames similar to a comet."
Comets don't have flames; they have ions and dust. I recommend removing the words "similar to a comet." 
"a circle with three stars, similar to that found on the flag of Tennessee, containing a large 'T' with a trail of flames."
I know this may sound pedantic, but this is an encyclopedia, not sportslogohistory.com (where I suspect these words from stolen from). 
Awhit003 (talk) 19:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "...trail of flames similar to a comet." 

message: It is not required to change EIN when changing the name of a company, but when a charity such as the Tennessee Titans, or business registers a new EIN it is to disassociate from previous affiliations, namely the Houston Oilers. Please see my proof. 2601:2C6:4F00:C2E0:61CE:62BE:884E:5FF (talk) 02:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/tennessee-titans-foundation,760611503/ Hisdpta (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  EIN Shows Titans was established 1999 not a transfer from Houston Oilers