Talk:Univox Hi-Flier

message: Humbuckers were introduced on Hi-Fliers sometime before 1976. Jerry picker 15:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: right, but i was looking at the univox.org page when writing it. that was the best info i could find. --liam 22:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

text: No problem! I am simply pointing out that the knowledge base is incomplete. We do the best we can with what we have. In this case, I had a Phase 3 Hi-Flier that I bought in 1972-73 and traded in 74-75, and it had the honey-plastic humbuckers. Hopefully, someone will come along who has actual advertizing brochures, bills of sale, etc. who will clarify. In the mean time, we all continue to comb the available data for what is there. History and historical documentation is never really complete. Jerry picker 22:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: this is a great article, but unfortunately has no dates other than the initial opening and ending of univox. if you know where a good picture with a white background of the hi-flier happens to be it would be a great addition to the article. there are some good ones of the eastwood hi flier, but that's unfortunately a different guitar (and i also happen to own one). --liam 02:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Phase 3

message: No mention at all of the basses.
It had a very similar appearance to the Mosrite Ventures guitar, though was somewhat different needs MUCH explanation!
And the serial numbers run from largest-to-smallest over many years has a high WTF factor as well.
The claim of Models that are absolutely identical to the Hi-Flier in every way is overreach, and at least needs to be substantiated. I am certain that the Phase Three has a thin neck with a very distinctive "shallow U" cross-section, and have seen no evidence that modern clones retain this. As well, the original body is so thin that the wood at the bottom of the pickup rout-outs is less than 1/8", so any guitar with a Strat-style vibrato bridge (like the Aria) must therefore have a thicker, heavier body AND tonal characteristics entirely different from a Univox.
And some effort should be made to separate the modern clones from the Matsumoku variants.Weeb Dingle (talk) 22:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: rough edges

message: For the purposes of inclusion in a Wikipedia "notable users" listing, the criteria are simple, being dictated by the term "notable users" itself:
#the purported user (or an associated entity to which they belong, such as a musical act or a company) must have a Wikipedia article, AND
#that article must provide an explicit and externally substantiated claim of usage
Lacking substantiation, any such claim is dubious, and vulnerable to deletion. Lacking an article, any such claim is at best original research — for which refer to Wikipedia:No original research or more pointedly Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original though. Weeb Dingle (talk) 02:30, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  the inevitable Notables list 

message: Only now does it occur to me that there ought to be an explicit description of the guitar. For instance, the "German carve" around the top (stolen from Mosrite, of course) is very distinctive.
As well is the "reverse" body shape, with the longer horn toward the floor. The old story is that Semie Moseley simply traced a face-down Stratocaster, but I've never found that totally credible.
Sites FFI:
* Vintage Univox
* Reverb.com article
The first is MUCH more credible, IMO.Weeb Dingle (talk) 07:09, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  things to add