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Talk:Anti-rival good

message: Surely an anti-rival good is often NOT un-excludable, but rather un-excluded... Wikipedia is an excellent example, it could easily be excludable, both in terms of access and content provision, but its central tenet is the voluntary decision to make it open source, rather than an intrinsic element of the good (in this case, an encyclopedia)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.162.110 (talk) 04:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anti-rival goods are un-excludable by design. Using your own example: Wikipedia could indeed be excludable, but then it would not be anti-rival, e.g. gain from almost real-time volunteer input and quality control. Rivalrous and non-rivalrous encyclopedias do not enjoy these intrinsic benefits - both quality and relevance of publication, and social benefits - that define an anti-rival publication. 2001:2003:F725:BE00:2C93:4C26:5B31:D9CE (talk) 08:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Cochecton, New York

message: The external link to the Sullivan County History http://www.sullivancountyhistory.org/  is blocked on my browser because it is an "attack page." 71.230.201.203 (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad external link
Talk:Excludability

message: How is national defense different from national health care when it comes to being excludable? Same for national education. USchick (talk) 23:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Think of it in terms of a village: if the barbarians arrive to rape and pillage, it's kind of difficult to only protect certain houses.  You want to build a wall around the whole village.  And since everyone will be affected if there is a breach in the wall, rather than just the people who paid for its construction, it might make sense for everyone to participate in payment for it. With health care (except for, say, epidemics where it might be worth covering everyone to stop the spread of something nasty) it's pretty easy to exclude people: they don't get to see the doctor.  That's excludability - whether it's right or not in that case is a debate for somewhere else, I think. Davidnwelton (talk) 15:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Early comments

message: The current lead is wordy and not especially encyclopedic in tone. 
For my own notes, I refactored it as follows: 
Excludability is the degree to which a good, service or resource ("goods") can be limited to only paying customers. Excludability was originally proposed in 1954 by American economist Paul Samuelson. Samuelson formalized the concept now known as public goods: goods that are both non-rivalrous and non-excludable. Samuelson additionally highlighted the market failure of the free-rider problem that can occur with non-excludable goods.
Subsequent to Samuelson's insight, goods are broadly assigned two fundamental characteristics:
* degree of excludability
* degree of rivalry
Richard Musgrave incorporated rivalry and excludability as criteria for defining consumption goods in 1959 and 1969. Garrett Hardin in 1968 expanded upon another key market inefficiency of non-excludeable goods: the tragedy of the commons.
Excludability is not an inherent characteristic of a good. Excludability was expanded upon by Elinor Ostrom in 1990 to be a continuous characteristic. Samuelson's work had presented excludability as either being present or absent. Ostrom's theory proposed that excludability can be placed on a scale to either full extreme. Adopting a continuous scale allows market participants to improve price models.
There's a good citation for the Richard Musgrave assertion in the rivalry article. I wasn't aiming for Wikipedia standards here, but I think it's largely better than what we now have. — MaxEnt 21:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead is not at a high standard
Talk:Bad Case of Loving You (Doctor, Doctor)

message: I made some improvements to the article. I think you and I might compromise. However, you and I disagree over which image to use. I thought about taking the images to the FFD and wait for the consensus. I don't like back-and-forth (or circular) arguments anymore. That made me look bad, and that would repel others away. You prefer the Dutch or the French; I prefer the British. Nevertheless, I think the FFD is the best venue, so consensus there may be reached to decide which image to use. Thoughts? --George Ho (talk) 04:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover arts (again)
Talk:Commonwealth of Independent States Cup

message: Does anybody know whether games played (and goals scored) in the Cup are recognized as official? I thought yes, but searched and found no evidence of it. Instead, I learned that Sport Express doesn't count CIS Cup goals in their Club 100, so now I inclined to no.  Jhony   16:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by "official" Jhony? Most sources count only league goals anyway. BanRay 17:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean club football equivalent of A international matches.  Jhony   18:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Never knew such an equivalent even existed :) BanRay 19:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For example, in this article such matches are called "official" or "accredited", while others called "unofficial" or "friendly and testimonial". By the way, if CIS Cup matches are considered "official" (by FIFA), then there is a good reason to consider footballers competed in the cup notable.  Jhony   23:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think such an equivalent exists. At least not formally. Football associations are forced to register most of their games with FIFA. It's a whole different story with club football though. I, personally, wouldn't class the CIS Cup as an official competition, since it's not affiliated with neither FIFA nor any of the continental confederations, but then again, I don't know who runs the cup. Anyway, I don't think it's all that important, since most of the players would pass WP:BIO anyway. BanRay 22:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The case is complicated: take a look at the header of the page. Both FIFA and Russian Football Union logos...  Jhony   02:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status 
Talk:Conklin, New York

message: Why is the Buffalo mass murderer on Wikipedia under Conklin,  NY? Shameless...disgusting! 206.15.97.254 (talk) 01:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the Buffalo mass murderer on Wikipedia under Conklin,  NY? Shameless...disgusting! 

message: In the past, inclusion of Payton Gendron, the perpetrator of the 2022 Buffalo shooting was rejected due to both consensus and BLP concerns. The BLP concerns seem to have been addressed today, earlier today as Gendron was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I just wanted to check, is there now a consensus to include Gendron's name in the notable people section? Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: He absolutely should be included considering that this incident made national headlines even into the following year. This incident will be talked about for many years to come. I would love to check the IP addresses of those deleting his inclusion among notable people and see if they're actually from Conklin, NY.Shabeki (talk) 03:15, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of 2022 Buffalo shooting perpetrator
Talk:Tony Nicodemo

message: Tony Nicodemo was born in 1936 in Jersey City, NJ  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.152.213 (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony Nicodemo correct date of birth 

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
::This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
::#There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
::#It is not clear what the neutrality issue is, and no satisfactory explanation has been given
::#In the absence of any discussion, or if the discussion has become dormant.
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing POV template without ongoing discussion per [[Template:POV]] instructions 

message: Anything about his life after college? RJFJR (talk) 14:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Later life?
Talk:Corinth, New York

message: There is some confusion in my mind iin the attribution of the name Palmer Falls.  Judge Beriah Palmer died in 1812; most sources follow Sylvester in saying that Beriah Palmer purchased property by the falls about 1828.  Dunn says this is Beriah Palmer "from New York City", so apparently a different guy. Peter Flass (talk) 00:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beriah Palmer 
Talk:Dannemora, New York

message: The map on this page purporting to show the location of Dannemora is incorrect. The tack in the map appears at the far northeastern corner of the state, where the town of Champlain, New York is. Dannemora is some distance southwest of that, west of Plattsburgh, I believe. AJD (talk) 18:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect map 

message: Right now, Google Earth shows Dannemora in the middle of the Alburg Tongue in Vermont. Perhaps the article has the coordinates wrong?
Atlant (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates wrong? 
Talk:Dansville, Steuben County, New York

message: Is this town real? Is it actually in this county? The List of towns in New York lists this page. But the Template:Steuben County, New York does not list this town. It appears that the towns of Cohocton and Hornellsville are closest to this town, though there were one or two northern towns without maps. The town of Wayland has this line: "The north and part of the west town lines form the border of Livingston County." This town has a similar line describing the same location. Which one is correct? Is one page wrong and the other correct? Or did this town become that town? Please clarify.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonC0001 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:De Kalb, New York

message: For some reason the Norse hacker map has Microsoft hacking this town TwentyTwoPilots (talk) 00:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hacker map and this town 
Talk:Intermediate good

message: Two things:
* I tried fixing the display of the image showing four charts of imports and exports of different categories of goods. It correctly rendered in the preview, but it doesn't show in the article after I saved the change. I'm not sure if it's a bug or something about the way the image is saved or referenced in MediaWiki.
* Should we retain this image? While it shows some information about intermediate goods imported and exported from China and the US to ASEAN countries, it doesn't seem to add meaningful information to the article. I say we remove the image.
― Aidan ⦿ (talk) 17:12, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we keep the image with four charts? 

message: I propose to merge Intermediate product into Intermediate good. I'm quite certain that they're essentially the same topic, and intermediate product is basically a dictionary definition with no added value; there's no information on that page which isn't already covered by Intermediate good, so the merge would come down to simply turning Intermediate product into a redirect. Any thoughts?  Lennart97 (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have performed the merge. Lennart97 (talk) 13:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Dinesh Karthik 2409:40F0:100E:1C6:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social 10th class
Category talk:Bahá'í educational institutions

message: Eventually I see references here too but ran across these meta sites that seem appropriate here.... thus the whole "See Also" section, save that I'd prefer to see it at the bottom of the page.... 
*Links > Associations & Committees > Schools --Smkolins (talk) 02:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  extending the category page itself with information
Talk:Deposit, New York

message: There is an incoherent sentence in this article: "At the rough turnover of the Cannonsville Reservoir." I can't even make enough sense of it to edit it to what it should be. - Jmabel | Talk 21:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Incoherent sentence
Talk:Durham, New York

message: There is a request to move Durham (disambiguation) to Durham;  see Talk:Durham#Requested move.  --Una Smith (talk) 03:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durham page move 
Talk:East Otto, New York

message: Though it may be true that people have sex with nimals or beastiality if you will but the williams family is one impiticular  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.198.27.124 (talk) 08:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Otto New York agriculture 
Talk:Eden, New York

message: shouldn't they have the flag?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meliss402 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  flag 
Talk:Ellisburg, New York

message: When, if ever, was Ellisburg incorporated as a town?
2600:1700:9580:8D30:20CF:FFC2:CA88:9907 (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Ellisburg a village or a town?
Talk:Erin, New York

message: Why is South Erin listed on the page for the Town of Erin if it is located in a different town?
Someone put South Erin in the list and then tells us it is NOT in Erin, but in another town. hello (talk) 22:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Erin 

message: …. 24.197.112.18 (talk) 02:09, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erin Museum Now  Unveiling Wax Statue of the Great American historical figure Kate Warne
Talk:Before the Next Teardrop Falls (song)

message: I have Joel Whitburn's Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits in front of me, and it makes no mention of Duane Dee having charted with this or any other song.  These are the Pop charts, which may differ from the Hot 100 charts, but I still think a citation is needed. Historydude58 (talk) 22:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duane Dee reference needs Citation 

message: In the discussion re releases of this song, no mention is listed of the 1970, Sun Records, release by Linda. It is mentioned in the Linda Martell posting. Please update? 47.158.31.76 (talk) 01:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linda Martel’s Before the next teardrop falls
Talk:Fishkill (town), New York

message: The map shows the village of Beacon as if it's excluded enclave from Fishkill town.  I don't know specifically about Fishkill, but from my experience growing up on Long Island, villages in New York usually remain part of the town in which they are incorporated within.  (This is different than where I live now, in Virginia, where cities are enclaves, removed from counties as they are incorporated, and there are no "towns.")
:No it is not. Beacon is a city, entirely seperate from Fishkill Serafart (talk) (contributions) 03:33, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about the map: Isn't Beacon part of Fishkill? 

message: Whoever fixed the reference error, my thanks. However, I feel my item was incorrectly renamed "history." History should be reserved for such things as facts about its founding, significant events which occurred in the town, etc. This piece of trivia about PETA hardly qualifies as history.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfwills (talk • contribs) 15:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's position on trivia is that it should be integrated with relevant sections where possible. As trivial as this may seem, it's part of Fishkill's history, and creating a separate section for it would be bad from an organizational standpoint. When I was writing the article for Rosendale Village, most of what I found could be considered trivia. It's how we connect disparate events together that creates a comprehensive, accurate History. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I view history as something happening (a single event, a series of events, or a development over a period of time) which significantly affects anything from the town to the world or does something to affect the reputation of the town in either direction. This PETA episode neither happened in the town nor did it have any effect but to annoy or perhaps amuse people for a brief time. At the same time, someone writing a history of Fishkill would probably mention it. In the end, I don't know that I necessarily agree with the position, but I'm not the one making policy, so I will abide by it.--Mfwills (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you 
Talk:Art Aragon

message: That is a pretty bad photo of Art Aragon, the Golden Boy.  Can anyone find a better one that we can substitute here?  I am sure you can find unflattering pictures of most celebrities. ````  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salazar45 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Aragon photo 
Talk:Ghent, New York

message: The link "Historical information about Ghent" is broken.Cyberplasm (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Grand Island, New York

message: I did a web search and was unable to verify that John Camilleri is a world champion badminton player. --Coppertwig (talk) 14:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I don't belive most of these names,
 The treaty was signed by Governor Daniel D. Tompkins, Peter B. Porter, Chief Red Jacket,
 Falling Boards, Twenty Canoes, Sharp Shins, Man Killer, and others. 
but can not find any proof one way or the other.  Found this, but don't know how reliable the source is.--Chuck369 (talk) 03:49, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Period after the American Revolution 
Talk:Johnny Bratton

message: * Need to determine the spelling of her name - Joanne or JoAnne.
* She really needs her own page, as does Ed Wingate (13 Nov 1919 – 5 May 2006).
* It looks like the son's name was 'Derek Truman Bratton', known as Ricky or Rickie, and then Ric-Tic.  Need to check some of her own writing for that.
* Not sure whether the eight years in the mental hospital includes the 'in and out of mental hospitals', which are from two different sources.
Onanoff (talk) 20:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Do List 

message: Could someone good at tables set up one with Bratton's fight record? Onanoff (talk) 11:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fight record 
Talk:Greene, New York

message: I'd like to see two things happen to the article: (1) an end to the recent revision war, and (2) the removal of the trivial junk that a couple of editors keep inserting. Stepp-Wulf (talk) 04:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to click the edit button along the top bar of the page, rather than the section-edit button. –xenotalk 14:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The silly comments on the page are non-encyclopedic and I am going to remove them. Matt Deres (talk) 21:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate humour 
Talk:Mandrah

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thread_title:  uc 53 kalyaam shareef
Talk:Harmony, New York

message: I have removed Joseph Smith for now because his inclusion was unsourced. His article does not mention Harmony, NY but Harmony, PA (now Oakland Township, Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania). If he indeed did live in Harmony, NY he can be added, but I can't find any immediate sources. Oglach na hEireann (talk) 23:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joseph Smith
Talk:Harpersfield, New York

message: As @MeadeIndeed chose to revert my edit changing capitalization as per MOS:PEOPLETITLES, I am seeking input from other editors. ~TPW 13:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not believe that MOS:PEOPLETITLES apply here as it's about a town and not a person/persons as the title "Titles of people" of the page implies, @True Pagan Warrior. Which is why I reverted the edit in question. MeadeIndeed (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's spot-on for town supervisor, but for town council see MOS:INSTITUTIONS. ~TPW 17:08, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  capitalization
Talk:Highland, Sullivan County, New York

message: The history section of this article deals heavily with Barryville, a hamlet of the town. Perhaps this information could be used on the Barryville article (currently a redirect) and information more relevant to the town could be used here? --JBC3 (talk) 02:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barryville 
Talk:Howard, New York

message: (The following text copied and pasted from the article. I am not the original author. --JBC3 (talk) 16:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous Information Needed 
Talk:Inlet, New York

message: IMO the image should be moved into the hamlet article as it shows that. --Matthiasb (talk) 18:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image
Talk:Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots

message: There is no "and Motorcycle Boots", just "Black Denim Trousers".  Somebody, please correct the titling mistake.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.4.135 (talk) 04:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What is your source for the shorter title?  The Cheers' recording on Capitol, which I have in front of me, gives the title just as in the article.76.199.9.141 (talk) 00:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article title is correct. As you've observed, the Cheers' original record carries the full and correct song title. Some subsequent recordings may have used the abbreviated title, but that has no significant bearing on this article. Pstoller (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Improper titling

message: I'm pretty sure the chorus is quoted on a track on Mick Farren's 1970 album “Mona - The Carniverous Circus” though I'm blowed if I can remember which one.  Now I'll have to listen to the whole record again… Mr Larrington (talk) 19:51, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Right singer, wrong album.  It's (mis-)quoted on "Slum Lord", on The Deviants' 1968 Album "Disposable". Mr Larrington (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Chorus
Talk:Lake George (town), New York

message:  --JBC3 (talk) 16:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: MOVED.  I do not fully agree with the specific solution, but it is not an incorrect solution.  User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:05, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 June 2022
Talk:Lewiston, New York

message: There is a huge discrepancy here. Please get correct numbers and fix those shown here. hello (talk) 09:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: Notes:
History:
Lewiston was the first European settlement in Western New York. A French explorer by the name of Etienne Brûlée's arrived in 1615. [1]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aewashbu (talk • contribs) 22:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Emerging Scholars
Talk:Australian Music Online

message: Absolutely not in the mood for writing now, but some stuff that I don't want to lose...
*http://www.amo.org.au/about.asp
*http://www.amo.org.au/faqs.asp
*http://whois.domaintools.com/amo.org.au
*http://siteanalytics.compete.com/Amo.org.au/
— Dihydrogen Monoxide 04:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Some useful links