Talk:Harry Ostrer

message: Assistance with expansion always appreciated.  Just Google "Ostrer Jewish" to find information.  
Thanks, --Andrew Goldsweig 19:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ostrer.jpg

message: The article states that "Ostrer contends that the Jewish people descend from a Middle Eastern tribe that coalesced approximately 2500 years ago, a time in accordance with biblical accounts of Jewish origins"  This is pretty silly, as the torah is not set 2500 years ago but is supposed to be much older.  97.91.179.137 (talk) 19:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  timeline 

message: Johns Hopkins University geneticist Dr. Eran Elhaik . Respected independent journalist Shmarya Rosenberg; Rosenberg's news article is simply quoting an original article at The Forward newspaper in this specific ("disputed") link  (a story that was also picked up by such places as HuffPo as well ). Also quoted is well known professional Catherine DeAngelis. All the sources are reliable, and if we use the "argument" being advanced by the person removing this information we must also remove the other links (he wants to keep) that are an old Haaretz newspaper link and an old Jon Entine article in The Forward newspaper as well: because they are not "peer-reviewed journals". This user cannot simply pick and choose which newspaper articles he likes and wants to include here!Vikingsfan8 (talk) 08:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  All sources in criticism section are reliable 

message: Shmarya Rosenberg is a respected independent journalist, whose blog site is cited often by many mainstream news websites. Thus his article, quoting the Forward article in question, is a totally valid source and it specifically is challenging Ostrer with its' very title . Making it something that should definitely be cited among criticisms of Ostrer. If stuff written by Jon Entine can be cited in this article, then Rosenberg certainly can be as well.Vikingsfan8 (talk) 22:51, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: FailedMessiah.com. is not reliable source, it is a self published blog.  She is a blogger and not reliable source regarding population geneticists and population genetic science.--Tritomex (talk) 16:14, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think blogs can be reliable sources if they are a blog run by a notable expert in some field. Tthe name "failed messiah" sounds point of viewish. Bad choice of name but still. I think he is a notable source but . . . is seen as a crank by regular media. More so that Osterer anyway. Popish Plot (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shmarya Rosenberg is a valid source