Talk:Arvanitic alphabet

message: I propose that the article should be rewritten from the beginning. The picture linked in this article, in fact is "Kristoforidhi's Tosk alphabet"  p. 2-3. Kristoforidhi devised two alphabets, one for the Gheg dialect, and another for the Tosk.
Yet, the Arvanites have used exclusively the Greek alphabet with diacritics (the Greek writing system lacks graphemes for ç, ë, j, nj, sh, xh, zh) to write their language. The New Testament of 1827, is one of the best examples. Guildenrich (talk)  22:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Arvanitic Alphabet and Kostandin Kristoforidhi 

message: According to this [] 'The Arvanitic alphabet is an adapted version of the Greek alphabet'...Alexikoua (talk) 11:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is using as its source [WP] guess what it is ;) 
Fut, may revert this page as many times as he wants, but he has to provide sources about it. Otherwise, the sourced material that I added, should be in its place.Balkanian`s word (talk) 13:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

text: The new version of that website is linguistically so poor quality we cannot use it. Certainly not by just copying over its text, as you did. The older version to which the page linked previously wasn't much better, but at least it contained only a simple list of letters, which - indirectly - was based on a more pertinent and reliable source, the 19th century Bible translation. That's still not good sourcing, but at least the article was written in a way that made sense and was consistent with the better sourced Albanian alphabet. I have no objection against just scrapping this page and redirected it to Albanian alphabet (I have strong doubts if there really is such a thing as a specifically Arvanitika alphabet rather than a wider range of Greek based general Albanian spelling models), but I do have objections against importing that ridiculously amateurish description from the current arvsynel page. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see, can I have an analysis of this problems that the new version have? It does seem pretty well to me at least. I mean, can we put just the box at least? What is the problem for real in this case?Balkanian`s word (talk) 13:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Alphabet

message: On second thought, I have redirected this page to Albanian alphabet, something that ought to have been done much earlier. We have never found any good evidence that any such thing as an alphabet specifically for Arvanitika as opposed to other forms of Albanian existed. What does exist, and what the page described, is a range of different occasional approaches to writing Albanian in the Greek script, some of which have been used on Greek territory, but none of which is specifically focussed on the the local Arvanitic dialects of Greece. The use of the Greek script for Albanian is covered in the main Albanian alphabet page. The main (implicit) source of the table we had here, the Njata e re by Vangjel Meksi and Gregory IV of Athens, is simply a translation into Tosk Albanian, directed at all orthodox Christian Albanians. Arvanitika as such has never had anything like a consistent writing tradition, and what little writing is currently practiced does not use the spelling system described here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:33, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirected