Talk:Royal National Theatre

message: This was intended to be the NT's Christmas show for 2003, with the first public performance on 4 December 2003 and the press night on 20 Dec 2003. Because of technical problems with the revolve, the first public performance was 14 December 2003. The press night was then arranged for 3 January 2004.  Does this make it a 2003 or 2004 show? --Old Moonraker 10:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay: no objections so I'll change it. --Old Moonraker 10:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done--Old Moonraker 22:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: I think the article could benefit from a section on the studio, especially seeing as it's quite an unusual scheme (which is encouraged to be brought out in WP's notability guidelines, right?), and seems to affect quite a lot of the theatre's output. Just thought i'm put this ina advance of going to do some research (it's not something i feel i could write about off the top of my head...), but i thought there might be some knowledgable people watching the page, who might like to make a start, or list some ideas for what such a section might include. Amo 21:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally added a section, as well as one on the Connections scheme. Reading them back they sound horrible, so please do pick them apart! Amo (talk) 19:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NT studio

message: It's probably missed out by sheer embarrassment, but the idea of a National Theatre was first mooted in 1848; and the foundation stone of this building was laid in 1951 (it's now in the foyer, so could even get a photo). I added a note about the "National Theatre Company", which first emerged in 1963. I'll try and get around to writing a para, or two, when I have time. The article shouldn't just concentrate on the building, it should provide a précis of the history of the idea and the company.
Also, the issue of notability of the productions listed is a bit dodgy - they should probably be ref'd to prizes, premières, etc. In order to demonstrate notability - otherwise, it's a bit subjective. cheers Kbthompson (talk) 17:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Two very good ideas. The "notable" in notable productions seems a bit debased now: objective supporting evidence for each entry would be particularly welcome. --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Made a start, please feel free to correct my turgid prose ... Kbthompson (talk) 09:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

text: HTH Kbthompson (talk) 11:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Theatre emphasis 

message: None of these supposed productions are either dated or cited. They are just hanging there in the article for no discernable reason. Wikipedia is not an advertisement or an announcement propaganda, and if the productions are not cited or dated, per WP:CRYSTAL, they must be deleted. Anyone who wants to know what is playing or planned at the NT can click the Official Site in the external links. Softlavender (talk) 00:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: None of the five criteria of WP:CRYSTAL exclude the current and forthcoming productions section in this article. That the theatre either is or is about to stage the plays mentioned isn't speculation and is easily confirmed by visiting the website. Any that do not appear there may be deleted, but there is no good reason to delete the section in principle.  • DP •  {huh?} 00:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I corrected and cited the current and forthcoming productions. Proposal withdrawn. Softlavender (talk) 02:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletion of "Current and forthcoming productions" 

message: The article National Theatre Live has no references to third-party sources which demonstrate its notability. I propose, therefore, that its contents be merged into this article, probably in greatly condensed form. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 16:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that already there's been some tidying-up required on this page  of WP:NN material (thanks!). Might it be better to keep the sub-article available to look after this, leaving the main article uncluttered? --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:19, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  National Theatre Live is an initative of the RNT to broadcast plays digitally -- so the listings on that page are going to be different to the ones which appear on this one, which also concern plays which are not digitally broadcast. My main point is that National Theatre Live is simply not noteable enough for its own article -- the only third-party source I've found is here, which is enough to justify a brief subsection in this article, but not an entire article in itself. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Oppose merge. NT Live is a major initiative and deserves its own article (just like Metropolitan Opera Live in HD), which will continue to grow as the productions increase and the global screenings and global recognition increase. Lack of third-party citations is not a reason to merge two articles. If you want citations, tag it for that, not for merging. Softlavender (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: The list of forthcoming productions was actually a list of things in the past, so I merged this into the list of notable post-2003 productions and took out a couple that were not notable enough to have their own entries. --Agarpp (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating 

message: Sorry to be a pedant, but is the Royal Opera House a Theatre company (opening sentences of this article)? I know ROH is one of the mega-funded organisations in the UK (opera being inherently expensive), but is it Theatre? If so why not ballet or other performing arts? I would definitely think NT & RSC would qualify as two most prominent, by most criteria, but perhaps distinction needs to be made between Theatre companies and funding recipients.
PS re: the name issue above, my understanding was that 'Royal' was added to the title for international consumption/prestige, presumably to distinguish it from all the other NT's around the world. It always seemed a bit silly to me and never really 'caught on' as a title in the UK.Pincrete (talk) 00:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, edited the lead to say "performing arts venues" instead of "theatre companies". Softlavender (talk) 01:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the Royal Opera House a Theatre company? 

message: Here's a useful article: http://moreintelligentlife.com/story/national-theatre?page=full. Softlavender (talk) 00:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A useful article 

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message: I edited this article to add a separate "In popular culture" section, incorporating dialogue from the popular BBC series "Yes, Minister" which mentions the National Theatre and its architectural style. This was reverted as "massively trivial and insignificant". I beg to differ. The building's architectural style is deserving of comment, and controversy about it is already noted in the article's section "The National Theatre building and forecourt". Would the Wikipedia community be agreeable with mentioning the "Yes, Minister" dialogue in the same section as Prince Charles' comments? glasperlenspiel (talk) 19:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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