Talk:Azerbaijani carpet

message: is this about the republic of azerbaijan carpets?Khosrow II 19:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: not when there is a seperate nation. things get confused that way. tabriz is not in the republic of azerbaijan, and has nothing to do with carpets made in the r. of azerbaijan.Khosrow II 21:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tabriz rug is categorized as Persian Rug in all the rug stores of the word.Gol 00:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006 Comments

message: I do not see much scholarly support for the term "Azerbaijani rug" (either you know it or see this). According to the handy reference page 1 the classification of "oriental carpets" is the famous one that everybody has heard (Persian, Caucasian, Turkic, Greek, ..). I propose a move to "Carpets of Azerbaijan".--Xashaiar (talk) 10:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That classification from 1930 might be a bit out of date - I don't think people really knew much about Cuacasian rugs at that time. But you are right that there is, both stylistically and historically, no such thing as an "Azerbaijani rug", what we have are a large number of different types of rugs woven in an area that is now within the borders of Azerbaijan. And many of them were (and are) also woven in areas beyond its borders. So, "Carpets of Azerbaijan" would be better. Meowy 21:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  move 

message: I think the term "Azerbaijani rug" is not an standard and technical term . Indeed in that region , other ethnic groups also practiced weaving ( like Karabakh Armenians ) , and also in classification , because people of Tabriz and Ardabil are ethnically Azeri , their carpets are classified as Azeri rug . But technically the term Persian rug is in use for them , because of the form of the weaving and the picture in use in the carpet .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 14:56, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But I think Azerbaijani rugs differ from another rugs of Caucasia. Espessialy on weaving technology. See here for more information. --Interfase (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[Caucasian carpets and rugs]] 

message: "Azerbaijan has been since the ancient times known as a centre of a large variety of crafts..." That's quite a miracle considering that "Azerbaijan" the country was established in 1918 with no prior mention anywhere of an "Azeri" nationality. Add to this the deliberate confusion of the Iranian province with the same name and we have another mess of an "article" compliments of the Turkic-Azeri propagandists who will stop at nothing in order to make themselves go from fantasy into reality. In addition, *ALL* so-called "historic Azeri Carpets" are Armenian carpets which are now being passed off as Azeri, including getting UNESCO in on this sick propaganda campaign. Armenians have been weaving carpets from the regions of the Mediterranean to the Caspian Seas and even in Central Asia where traditionally Armenian communities have existed. These are all well documented, but no serious rug scholar has even bothered to waste their time with a so-called "Azeri carpet" - and for good reason: because there is no such a thing in history. I don't doubt that today carpets are made in Azerbaijan (after the craft was stolen from the Armenians). Before the 80's Armenians have existed in present day Azerbaijan and been weaving carpets before even Turks started their westward migration. Today Azeris use traditional Armenian designs on their carpets to recreate "Caucasian" carpets to make it seem that it is part of their culture. And I agree with the above that this article must not be called "Azerbaijani rug" - 'Rug weaving in Azerbaijan' with historic credit to the Armenians is acceptable, provided that Azeri propagandist falsifiers of history are kept out, which I do not see happening so long as Azeri oil money keeps their delusions funded. This article is Another Azeri-Turk Propagandist worthless article on Wikipedia spreading false information. 99.7.123.116 (talk) 20:48, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the wording of the article can be improved, but calling all the rugs in Azerbaijan as Armenian is non-sense. Whether you like it or not, Azerbaijan makes rugs, and it's part of their culture. --George Spurlin (talk) 01:16, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Read again what I wrote. I don't doubt that rugs have been woven in Azerbaijan and continue to today - I doubt that Azeris wove rugs on any significant scale before the Soviet Union i.e. before 100 years ago. Even until 20 years ago with a population of several hundred thousand Armenians in Azerbaijan - they had many Armenian weaving centers. The propagandist Azeris of today use facts to distort to their own made-up "history". Antique so-called "Azeri rugs" all contain Christian and Armenian motifs, not a single one provides any evidence of an "Azeri" origin. The Soviet Union was instrumental in teaching Azeris rug weaving, a fact that Azeris today use to award themselves "ancient" status, despite that Azerbaijan never existed in history prior to 100 years. Ethnic Muslims in what is today known as "Azerbaijan" no doubt must have woven some rugs on a small scale - most likely cheap imitations of Armenian rugs, which is probably why such rugs do not exist today. 99.7.123.116 (talk) 23:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Azeri Turk Propaganda "Article" 

message: I've asked for help in getting a proper gallery together. It belongs at the bottom of the page in it's own section. I'm hoping someone can get the alt-text to work as well. Request for help here. --Ronz (talk) 19:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Gallery

message: I propose to merge Azerbaijani carpet weaving here as the topic essentially overlaps with Azerbaijani rug, which seems to be a better target article. Brandmeistertalk   13:15, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: Dear Kevo327 and other Armenian users, can you please point by point argues here before deleting large pieces of information just because you do not like it 109.205.160.241 (talk) 16:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I stated a dozen times that all of them are unsourced, they still are unsourced. - Kevo327 (talk) 08:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism by Armenian Users