Talk:Bai Chongxi

message: * Oppose, according to , you should not use pinyin because it is a Taiwan related article. 132.205.44.134 23:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bai was not a "personage from Taiwan" and the article should therefore follow Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)#Names. - AjaxSmack 02:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Votes

message: :Add any additional comments
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
* As an officer of the Republic of China, this seems to be an inappropriate romanization of his name to use. As a high ranking one, he was most likely noted in places in the West using the Wade-Giles representation when he was still in uniform. 132.205.44.134 23:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other "officers of the ROC" such as Wang Jingwei, Zhang Xueliang, or Du Yuming are listed according to pinyin spellings unless they are "personages from Taiwan" or are better known for their actions or career in Taiwan. - AjaxSmack 02:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Any officer that fought the Communists might object to be rendered using a communist invented romanization. Further his son uses Wade-Giles. 132.205.44.134 01:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: The article doesn't say how he managed to accrete any soldiers in the first place. Did he just join Li Tsung-Jen's army, or did he possess his own troops beforehand (as implied by allying)? Did he inherit them? Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 02:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rise to power

message: * Oppose use of HYPY - though born in China, he was indeed a personage of Taiwan (or of the Republic of China); such people's names rarely conform to Hanyu Pinyin. Most conform to Wade-Giles, with various exceptions. Just as Sun Yat-sen should not be categotized under Sun Yixian, Pai's name should not be spelled in HYPY. {Bubbha 02:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment above modified to include "pai ch'ung hsi" spelling figures as well; the conclusion remains the same. cab 02:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pinyin vs. Wade-Giles

message: "Muslims do not believe in superstition (see Shirk (Islam)) and his religion may have influenced Bai to take action against the Idols in the temples and the superstitious practices rampant in China."
This is clearly someones POV and not properly sourced information. I think someone should fix this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.197.105 (talk) 08:01, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV in article 

message: An image used in this article, , has been nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Media without a source as of 15 June 2011 
;What should I do?
	A discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. If you feel the deletion can be contested then please do so (commons:COM:SPEEDY has further information). Otherwise consider finding a replacement image before deletion occurs.
This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 13:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: File:Bai chongxi.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kTUdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HCMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5801,722627&hl=en
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=lzwaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GA0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5777,5417232&hl=en
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/csmonitor_historic/access/278408032.html?dids=278408032:278408032&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=Aug+29%2C+1942&author=By+Norman+Soong&pub=Christian+Science+Monitor&desc=China+Builds+In+Northwest+While+Fighting&pqatl=google
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00816F6345D1B7A93C5A81789D85F4C8385F9
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10715FD3E5A12718DDDA00894DA415B868AF1D3
Rajmaan (talk) 02:11, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  World war ii and civil war 

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=tCA9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA35#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tCA9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA37#v=onepage&q&f=false
Bai's plan to colonize Xinjiang
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00C1EFB3A5B167A93C0A81789D95F4C8285F9
Rajmaan (talk) 02:09, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Career 

message: This article is one of many that cites sources such as Time magazine articles from the 1920s, or John Gunther's travel books from the 1930s. These sources, all popular journalism, are long past the 'best used by' date, and should be carefully avoided. Recent biographical studies of Bai do not say that he 'released' Zhou Enlai during the April 12 Shanghai Incident, and the Time reference to Bai as 'hewer of communist heads' is limited to the one Time article. I've deleted these antediluvian sources and claims, please try to find more current materials, unless you are really familar with the period or the subject. Rgr09 (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, the entire article has been put together from period news articles and popular histories. It seems as if previous editors have been trying to write the history of the period themselves, rather than find a reliable secondary source on Bai. The article needs a total rewrite, which I unfortunately do not have the time to do. Sorry! Rgr09 (talk) 13:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expired references