Talk:Anglican Church Grammar School

message: User:220.245.180.132, Can you explain what these abbreviations stand for? Otherwise, I feel they should be left out of the article. Cnwb 12:14, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the unexplained abbreviations you keep adding; please discuss these changes on this talk page. Cnwb 22:57, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Abbreviations

message: agreed, the 'controvesy' and 'student organisations' sections are a little biased, but they should NOT be delteted. feel free to edit. as an uninvolved aprty, it is obvious to me that these should remain.
By not posting here, User:220.245.180.132 has essentially pleaded no contest... The abbreviations should left out as they are rather abtruse. Be forewarned, Cnwb, the man we are dealing with here has a bit of a history. If he persists in this without explaining himself, take this to a higher level. Cheers, All.- Thesocialistesq 05:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Third Opinion(s)

message: That is a terrible idea. They represent the students at Churchie and remain in those positions for a whole year. Their roles give them the right to be up there.
:You made my point for me. They are there for a year, while Wikipedia is to remain timeless. Their role is that of a high school or middle school level student officer. That gives them notability to be included on school publications but absolutely no one has a "right" to be on Wikipedia. I have deleted the student names from this section. They should not be replaced until a full accounting has been given of the notability of the students named Pikachu, Yu-gi-oh, and Zoomer One. On a more serious note, please look at the article on Stuyvesant, which is a featured article. There is no listing of current students elected to student body positions. There are no high quality articles that have this. This is also not a problem. If you feel that their election gives them notability, please keep in mind that even people elected to positions in a city level government aren't considered notable by the standards at WP:BIO.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 06:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The sad thing is that you fail to understand that Wikipedia is not a free webhost for you to feel good about yourself. If you want to list the house captains and annually elected student officers you are free to do so on your own bandwidth. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is the largest encyclopedia in history. It is truly insignificant who was the house captain in any given year. I am removing references to individual non-notable students one more time. If they are replaced I will file a request for comment regarding this issue. I am certain that consensus would fall on the side of not including officers' names. Adding them back in would be seen as vandalism and would be a blockable offense as it would be going against consensus. As many people editing this article are probably doing so from school, this would lead to the school being blocked from editing. That would be unfortunate.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 05:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I advise you pay attention to where you are. This is not a playground; it is an encyclopedia. If you wish to play games that you can "win", I'm sure your grammar school's playground can accommodate you. You and your friends can't "win" here any more than I or the hundreds of thousands of other editors can "win." The community and the end users "win" by having encyclopedic content. We "win" by providing that. Your edits are moving the article further from the goal, thereby losing. Please join our winning team or stop playing games.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh, okay. Luna Santin 21:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi! It's me again. Please respect our civility policy.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 17:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Getting rid of the student bodies section

message: i would like very much to find out if there is any basis in the incident that gave this moniker breath. I suffered three years of this shithole school and heard that it was. I suffered my time in Donaldson House and a senior told me there that the lad who fucked a dog was very much real. I would like to write a short history on this if possible. 
i was a boarder in Donaldson House from 1988-90 and we once asked the sole repeat senior there if the legend of Zoomer was, in fact, true. He indicated that it was. He told us that it occurred when he was a Grade Eight student himself (so in 1982), the kid who violated the dog was a senior. He had thought that he was going to score on a date with a girl and had brought with him a condom in preparation. When his plans did not transpire, he opted for the dog that had integrated herself with the boarding community. He was found out the side of what was then the Grade Nine dormitory with the dog's hind legs wrapped in behind the crux of his knees. He was pulling her back and forth upon himself with her tail - doing her 'doggy style.' He used the condom at least! I cannot reference this, but this is what I heard from a living breathing senior in 1988.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.126.106.66 (talk) 20:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty hard to add something so defamatory without a reference. JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 11:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Zoomers

message: Its a big joke that no-one gets about the private school boy in the Mazda car commercials going "Zoom Zoom".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.164.238 (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mazda Car Commercial

message: Have added the Kevin Lynch saga in. Its in St. Pauls and Grammar's page, it should be here too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kiran90 (talk • contribs) .
:I think you forgot to copy the verification links across. I reverted your addition because of this. Ansell 10:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We aren't interested in being balanced or necessarily fair. We certainly aren't trying to emulate FOX News. (For those readers unfamiliar with American media that was a political jab at FOX's ironic slogan.) What we strive for on Wikipdia is neutrality. The reason for there not being an entry is that no one has written it yet. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 15:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Please do not resort to argumentum ad personam and ad hominem circumstantiae. They are very poor rhetorical strategies, inherently logical fallacies, and are against one of our most basic policies. I have multiple jobs along with being a full time student and a Wikipedia administrator. I have some girl friends, but as I am no longer a child most of my friends are adults. If you were meaning to imply that I am having trouble finding a girlfriend, I'm in a committed long term relationship. As you have run out of just about any argument short of calling Godwin's Law into play, can we get back to writing an encyclopedia now? Thanks. Oh, one last thing: Ending communication is bad because then we can't determine consensus and support the free and open flow of information. —WAvegetarian (talk) 17:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex Abuse 

message: The comment blow was removed from the wiki article, it was written by an ex stage crew member is true, the students in stage crew are not recognized for their work. And neither does the school administration notice the hours put in by the stage crew members. Personally i agree with the above comment and so do some other stage crew members.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.42.225 (talk • contribs) 11:35, July 25, 2007 (UTC)
I felt that the stage crew section was written by a bitter exmember who was very upset by the lack of recognition for his work: here is the section I removed
"After most events that occur during the school year that the Stage Crew boys are involved in takes away a lot of their spare time. This is because something that might only run for an hour will take hours and hours to set and pack up. For plays, the hours involve setting up, rehearsals, the performance and finally the pack up. For a dance, the hours would involve setting up, which takes a year 10 roughly 35 hours each with the time increasing as you go up the grades, driving the dance and finally bumping out that night. After a school dance that finishes at around 10:30pm, the stage crew boys are there until the early hours of the morning and leave the school at about 3:30 or sometimes 4:00 on sunday mornings.
Although stage crew is the main force behind most of the things that happen in the school that involve their equipment, there is a poor stigma about them. Not too many of the boys in the churchie community actually respect the stage crew community. Most boys see stage crew as a waste of time that they get out of class for and don no work whatsoever. However, these boys have never participated in stage crew and have no idea of what goes on behind the scenes of everything that happens at the school.
" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.244.146.142 (talk) 15:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of text about the Stage Crew, including names of boys who hold leadership positions, and some POV wording about them being underappreciated and hard-working, is repeatedly being inserted in the article. That sort of thing is not appropriate for a Wikipedia article, for obvious reasons. It may or may not be true about the stage crew being unrecognized, but that's not encyclopedic information. Please do not insert it again. (Comment posted here since the person or people who insert the same text log in from different IPs each time) --Bonadea 11:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stage Crew

message: Is there a link to an article about the fire with exact details? I found some on The Courier Mail and Brisbane Times but none mentioned the building the fire was in. According to The Courier Mail, the fire was at 4:30PM, not 5:00PM. If it is indeed 5pm then please feel free to change it back to the correct time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.71.163 (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fire

message: I feel the use of the word 'churchie', while a culturally accepted term to refer to the school in Queensland, is still classed as a slang term and should be removed and replaced with the full name of the school or an abbreviation with the exception of where 'Churchie' refers to a proper noun, such as an organization titled as such. Anybody have any thoughts on this? Twistie.man (talk) 08:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is mentioned it is colloquially known as 'Churchie' in the opening, therefore I believe according to MoS this is acceptable. Anglican Church Grammar School is certainly a long drawn out name that would become unnecessary to repeat, much like on a biography page where you address the person by just their first or last name. JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 11:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slang Terms 

message: Please state your reasons and give appropriate examples as to why you believe that this article contains the following: (1) Low standards set by Wikipedia (2) Weasel words and unverifiable information (3) Additional references -- note that this last one has been set since 2007 and the article has vastly changed since then. And lastly, (4) Why you feel the Student bodies section should be presented using Prose. As these are subjective matters, I would like your input as to why those of you feel those tags need to remain.124.177.173.49 (talk) 12:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your queries.  To find more information as to what is required by the tags you can click on the links highlighted in blue in the tags.  For example the tag on Wikipedia standards will redirect you to WP:MOS which has a style manual that wikipedia articles should follow.  The unverifiable information and additional references tags need to stay because there are still large sections of the article, such as those covering spiritual ethos, curriculum and house system that contain information which is not verifiable and needs references.  This article has also in the past been subject to the addition of unverifiable content, some of which could be seen as libelous to individuals and the school, so it is important that these standards are fully met in the case of this article. I hope this answers your questions. Jenafalt (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for pointing that out. I do have one query though, and I apologise if it's covered somewhere, but would published works by the school be viable references for the areas that you feel require further citation? While perhaps it could use further referencing, I still fail to see how it doesn't meet Wikipedia quality standards. It seems redundant to leave both tags there if it is for the same reason.124.177.173.49 (talk) 11:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

text: For uncontentious issues quoting from the school website would be fine.  For example, it would be fine to have a reference from the school's website to reference the names of the school houses, but if someone was going to say that the house system was flawed or the best in Australia, for example, it would need other, unbiased, references to assert the claim validly. Jenafalt (talk) 12:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: People who feel this article needs cleaning

message: Like many articles about educational institutions, self-promotion can become rife within an article and need to be referenced as to provide a NPOV. I noticed a removal of the weasel words template, however, I see paragraphs about the school with unreferenced quotes like "even though the 1st VIII remains the symbol of supremacy.", despite, when looking upon results, rowing results in Brisbane seem pretty even. I don't know much about GPS Sport, but perhaps a more in depth sport section to reflect how the school performs in other sports like rugby and cricket, rather than just the sports they succeed at. The article also includes other unreferenced self promotion statements, such as charitable events run by the school. Until such issues are cleared up, I don't believe this article meets WP:NPOV standards. JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 00:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of weasel words template

message: Cannot find this supposed 'press release' or any other notable material, however I may not be looking in the right spot. JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 10:10, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statement of death threats 

message: I've rollbacked an attempt to remove well referenced content from the History and Controversy sections without any apparent explanation in edit summaries. If there's an explanation for why this information should be removed, please feel free to explain before removing it. -danjel (talk to me) 07:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rem. of History and Controversy content 

message: I've just read through the list of houses at Churchie and the names of the housemasters has not been updated. I'm a current student at Churchie and I know that a few of the houses have new housemasters this year.
--203.6.250.10 (talk) 02:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonnotable teachers shouldn't be mentioned anyway, per WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI, so I've removed them. -danjel (talk to me) 12:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to housemasters of houses 

message: Just wondering why this article, after some pretty extensive editing, still has these two banners. The banner calling for additional citations (which I note was created in 2007) seems a little unnecessary given that there are no [citation needed] tags in the entire article. All of the 'weasel words' mentioned have been removed and the article contains very few unsupported claims. Could anyone who thinks it should stay please explain why? Otherwise, it should be deleted. Also, the lead section of the article exactly mirrors those of other schools' pages that do not have a 'lead section' banner (see, for example, Geelong Grammar School, Melbourne Grammar School, Brisbane Grammar School and St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace). Once again, this banner seems to be on this page unnecessarily. If there are any reasons as for why it exists, could they please be made clear so the lead section could be improved? If not, it should be deleted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by W108 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Additional citations needed' and 'lead section' banners 

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