Talk:List of coupled cousins

message: It has been suggested that this article ("List of coupled cousins") be merged with "Cousin couple."  Please see my remarks at "Merge with 'List of coupled cousins'?"  (In brief, I oppose the idea.)  Nihil novi 00:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's going to be this long, it needs to be separate. Thmazing (talk) 20:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with "Cousin couple"?

message: This article's "Notable individuals" section is arranged in alphabetical order.  The list of European royalty does not appear to follow any order.  Perhaps it would be well to place the royals in either alphabetical or chronological order?  Nihil novi (talk) 10:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea.  Chronology is tricky: birthdate, or ascending the throne?  I'll try alphabetical by main first name. BrainyBabe (talk) 10:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Oh  - bad edit conflict.  I'll try again when you have finished uploading those great pictures!  BrainyBabe (talk) 10:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of royals

message: What was his wife's name?75.142.50.33 (talk) 20:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Stephen Hopkins]]

message: Let's face it, until the 20th century, for the most part, nearly every single royal couple were cousins of varying degrees. Can we remove some of the more distant examples, such as second cousins once removed, and perhaps keep a few very close examples and current ones? This list will never be exhaustive, it will always be somewhere in between, but it is much too long. 142.68.138.25 (talk) 23:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Of varying degrees? All the human race is cousins. The furthest degree is 16th cousin.Wythy (talk) 12:04, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Indeed.  So why include sixth cousins, let alone eleventh? —Tamfang (talk) 22:44, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reduce royalty list? 

message: Nerissa-Marie (talk) 13:55, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right.  It was his older brother, Napoleon Louis Bonaparte, who was married to his cousin.  I have removed the image.  Favonian (talk) 12:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Napoleon III]] 

message: It seems that somebody keeps putting genetics into the lede. Genetics is an important aspect of cousin marriage but its details, beyond maybe a quick one sentence summary plus a link to this genetics section, do not belong in the lede of a list of coupled cousins. The focus here is biographical and not biological! —Khin2718 07:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genetics in the summary 

message: I found this article with a photograph of Albert Einstein, but he was not in the list.  Was there a reason for that?  (I added him to the list.)  (I also moved a du Pont from the "E" section to the "D" section.)
: 
A section heading said "Notable commoners".  I changed it to "Other notable persons".  "Commoner" seems quite inappropriate.  Commoner redirects to Commoners in Great Britain, which says:
:: In British law, a commoner is someone who is neither the Sovereign nor a peer.
: 
I am a civilian; therefore it is inappropriate to ask whether I am an officer or an enlisted man.  I am outside of that system; it doesn't apply to me.  Likewise I have never been in Britain nor otherwise subject to British law; therefore I am outside of any system in which the status of "commoner" or "peer" makes sense.  The same is true of many of the people potentially or currently on this list.  Albert Einstein became a citizen of Switzerland while a teenager, if I recall correctly, then became (again) a German citizen after Germany had become a republic, then became an American.  It makes no sense to inquire whether he was a peer or a commoner. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason why there was no entry for Einstein lay in this unfortunate edit, which removed Einstein and duplicated duPont.  I have reverted it, but retained your change of section header.  Favonian (talk) 09:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Commoners", Einstein 

message: I propose that any relationship beyond 6th cousins, meaning seven generations to the common ancestor, be the maximum listed here and all other relationships deleted. We are all cousins to some degree. Seven generations is the maximum tracked by even the most obsessive societies I've heard of. We could make exceptions if a source indicated some special significance to the relationship.
Also, let's start a section on famous people whose parents were cousins. 贾宝玉 (talk) 21:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two proposals 

message: This list has at least two couples who were not cousins but represent other forms of intra-familial couples, such as uncle and niece. It would seem to me that either the title of the article be changed to "List of Intra-familial Couples," or those not representing actual cousin couples be removed from the list. Leaving things as they are would be inaccurate, would it not? (20 Oct. 2010)
:You are right that it is not accurate for a small minority of the cases. However, any other name like "List of close-kin marriages" is undoubtedly less accessible for the average reader. So there is a trade-off between complete accuracy and accessibility. I am leaning toward keeping the current title as I just don't see any real harm in it. 贾宝玉 (talk) 23:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Nihil novi (talk) 06:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, as a compromise, we could move those few non-cousin couples to a single, new subsection on the same page for non-cousin couples. That way, those couples could remain on a page easily accessible to readers, while their simple relocation to a new sub-section near the bottom of the page could allow the page's title to remain relatively accurate. Would there be any disagreements to this proposition? (22 Oct. 2010)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.204.192.2 (talk) 18:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I could agree with at least trying this. If it is too awkward it can always be changed later. 贾宝玉 (talk) 20:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Alright then. I'll proceed to make the adjustments, and will submit the final product to your and the others' good judgment. (23 Oct. 2010)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.204.192.2 (talk) 02:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate article title 

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message: I see, in the list of coupled cousins, that there are many distant cousins. I think we should probably limit it to third cousins, because:
#Except among royalty, I doubt that many people would even know that they married a cousin more distant than that;
#The risks behind inbreeding go down the more distantly related the parents are;
#If you go far enough back, everyone's related.
עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This was discussed 4 years ago.  Please see "Cleanup", above.  Nihil novi (talk) 06:00, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  How distant should we list? 

message: Monty Hall's wife Marilyn Plottel is neither his "distant cousin" nor any other blood relative. The connection supposedly arises from the fact that Monty's mother Rose is first cousin to Norman Shnier, and Norman Shnier is second cousin to Marilyn Plottel. Trouble is, Norman is related to Rose thru his father and to Marilyn thru his mother. So there is no blood relationship at all between Monty and Marilyn. 2601:18E:C501:5FE2:7ACA:39FF:FEB2:EFCB (talk) 00:24, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Monty Hall 

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message: I removed the locations because they prevented the dates from sorting chronologically, but the edits were undone.67.173.23.66 (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locations 

message: Rudolph Giuliani was married to a first or second cousin of his.  Why is he missing? Psychlohexane (talk) 00:52, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The list is limited to first cousins. 2601:249:9301:D570:DC65:3BB2:1426:4915 (talk) 13:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's Rudy?