Talk:Lake Peipus

message: I'm just curious, is Lake Peipus a fresh water or salt water lake? The article doesn't say at this time. Deco 00:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fresh or salt?

message: Why to use a German name for Estonian/Russian lake?
:Because it's a language used in the region historically, see --Termer (talk) 05:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why German name?

message: I believe there are three possible names for this article:
#Peipus (13,900 hits on Google books, English books only) - is the German name (Peipussee = Peipus sea) from the years of Germanic dominance of the area; it has the largest number of hits on Google Books and is supported by Britannica. However, this name is historical, and likely refers to one part of this 3-part lake: for example, restricting the Google book search to recent years reverses the ratio of hits for Peipus/Peipsi from 13900/4160 (all years) to 1880/1990 (last decade). 
#Chudsko-Pskovskoe (769 hits on Google books for Chudskoe lake) is the Russian name for the two major parts of the lake, and most area of these lakes lies within Russia. However this name has very minor usage in English-speaking literature. 
#Peipsi-Pihkva (4,160 hits on Google books for Peipsi lake) is the Estonian name.  As I understand, there are no clear international conventions on internal lakes. Thus please express your opinion (vote) below. 
*To start, I suggest reverting the recent unilateral move to the past name Peipsi-Pihkva, which was also supported by these refs.    in the past text. WP:PLACE guides us to the most common usage in English language, but it also mentions that this usage should be recent. Materialscientist (talk) 07:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, there are several lakes, not one as the current title seems to imply. The page should be split into separate pages about :ru:Чудское озеро, :ru:Псковское озеро, etc. I don't expect any meaningful discussion below, since the Estonian editors heavily outnumber the Russian ones in this particular wikipedia. Still, Lake Peipus is preferrable as a traditional name in English-language sources. We prefer Kiev to Kyiv, Odessa to Odesa and Minsk to Mensk for similar reasons. --Ghirla-трёп- 08:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, double names above reflect the two parts. Splitting them might be a good call (with its quirks such as many stats are available for the whole entity only, and thus many other wikis keep one article), but is a separate issue from naming. Materialscientist (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: “the Estonian editors heavily outnumber the Russian ones in this particular wikipedia” - Not a good argument per se besides being empirically false, too. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog  (t) 21:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reopen name discussion

message: Source: Yearly report on Lake Peipsi 
71 known benthic spices in 2012 (unfinished report), 63 in 2011. Including chironomus Monodiamesa bathyphila, which does not like eutrophication, it lives in the sandy shores with plenty of wave activity, giving oxygen rich environment (from oligocheta: Lamprodrilus isoporus and Stylodrilus heringianus), giving mesotrophic fauna in north side of lake. Also Paracladopelma rolli, which is a lotic spices. So its not purely eutrophic when it comes to flora and fauna. It is also infested with Dreissena polymorpha. It is big problem in Lake Pihkva, because the bottom is full of old nets where polymorpha can grow in mass. Estonian side has cleaned the bottom from old nets several times. But for decades the profundal benthos has remained pretty similar, it has not turned homogenous (With Chironomus plumosos dominating, microchironomus tener, procladius choreus/ferrugineus, Einfeldia carbonaria, and at Russian side also Cryptochironomus ussiorensis, even few mollusca were lost in the profundal). Unfortunately the report maker group does not have experts in Hydracarina, Micronecta, Valvata, Pisidium etc. so report can not make good conclusions about them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.25.254 (talk) 13:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benthos