Talk:List of United States federal prisons

message: I have proposed that this page should be merged with Federal Bureau of Prisons, because all of the prisons on this list fall under the Bureau's control. --TommyBoy 05:05, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Three comments on Talk:Federal Bureau of Prisons (including my own) opposed this merge, so I have deleted the merge tags on both pages and removed the proposal from Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. | Klaw ¡digame! 22:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Merger

message: I wouldnt venture an opinion on merging, but this list is very austere.  Can the links be expanded? Thanks Tazinnm 05:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  can this be expanded 

message: As a citizen of a country without a federal government I visited this site to find out what a Federal Prison was as I had never before heard the term.  The site gives a list of facilities but not the information I was seeking. If anyone has the knowledge/interest an expansion would be very appreciated. Orcafound 06:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , This article is about the list of the prisons and is not about prison system. Please see the Federal Bureau of Prisons article for information about the system. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Please keep WP:FORUM in mind and that this this article is about the list of the prisons and is not about prison system nor how and why a person may end up in prison. You may be interested in the Incarceration in the United States article. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making the Page more useful 

message: Is this section really necessary?  I'd like to remove it as redundant... MDEVER802 (talk) 05:31, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Very belatedly… I added the list because it gave a comprehensive tally of all of the federal prisons without regard to type, making it easy to find a specific institution by name, something I want at least once a month (and without resorting to a "find" function, especially since I look up prisons that may be purely fictional, since they are mentioned on television dramas). It also allowed users to sort all prisons by location, which the current article does not.  IMHO it was not redundant.  Would you please consider adding it back, or allowing me to do so?—DocWatson42 (talk) 07:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hello?—DocWatson42 (talk) 06:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hello?—DocWatson42 (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  List by short name 

message: "Federal Correctional Institutions (FCIs) are medium-security and low-security facilities, which have strengthened perimeters (often double fences with electronic detection systems), mostly cell-type housing, a wide variety of work and treatment programs, as well as a higher staff-to-inmate ratio and greater internal controls than low-security FCIs."  - the sentence {probably should be 2 sentences) needs text to make the distinction attempted in the final phrase between medium and low-security FCIs. It could be done by putting a period after 'programs' and beginning a new sentence that would read. "Medium-security FCIs have a higher staff-to-inmate ratio and greater internal controls than low-security FCIs." Alternatively, the phrase could be considered as stating the (to me) obvious, and deleting it. Irish Melkite (talk) 09:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something missing 

message: I noticed the lead has "This list does not include military prisons, state prisons, jails, or prisons operated under contract to the Federal Bureau of Prisons by private companies or local governments."
The BOP web site has:
* Federal Correctional Institutions (FCI) which are managed by the BOP directly and are included in the Wikipedia article.
* Correctional Institutions (CI) which are privately operated.
As the BOP provides us with a list of the Correctional Institutions it seems like a reasonable source for including them on Wikipedia. They are private prisons being used to house federal prisoners.
:
Name               	Location        	Operator
Adams County CI    	Natchez, MS     	Corrections Corporation of America
Big Spring CI      	Big Spring, TX  	The GEO Group, Inc.
Cibola County CI   	Milan, NM       	Corrections Corporation of America
D. Ray James CI    	Folkston, GA    	The GEO Group, Inc.
Eden CI            	Eden, TX        	Corrections Corporation of America
Giles W. Dalby CI  	Post, TX        	Management & Training Corporation
McRae CI           	McRae, GA       	Corrections Corporation of America
Moshannon Valley CI	Philipsburg, PA 	The GEO Group, Inc.
NE Ohio Corr Ctr CI	Youngstown, OH  	Corrections Corporation of America
Reeves I & II CI   	Pecos, TX       	The GEO Group, Inc. (for Reeves County)
Reeves III CI      	Pecos, TX       	The GEO Group, Inc. (for Reeves County)
Rivers CI          	Winton, NC      	The GEO Group, Inc.
Taft CI            	Taft, CA        	Management & Training Corporation
Willacy County CI  	Raymondville, TX	Management & Training Corporation
The Cibola County CI located in Milan, New Mexico is not the same as Federal Correctional Institution, Milan which is in Michigan.
There is both an FCI and CI in Big Spring, Texas.
* The Federal Correctional Institution, Big Spring is located at 1900 SIMLER AVE, BIG SPRING, TX  79720. The Wikipedia article says "The facility also has a satellite prison camp which houses minimum-security male offenders." There is no citation given for this but this may be the Big Spring CI.
* The Big Spring CI is located at 1701 APRON DRIVE, BIG SPRING, TX  79720.
--Marc Kupper|talk 00:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Support: This is useful information.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we list Correctional Institutions? 

message: Just like to know a little about how the prisons are ran. What to expect, do you wear your clothes, have commissary,  bring children, what kind of programs are offered?  Shayxan17 (talk) 03:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What kind of facility would a female with a "living in a place to maintain, manufacture and use herion" be placed? First federal trial and no violent crimes ever. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recent editors: What do you think of adding a table summarizing the federal facilities, similar to what I did here, but with the current information?  —DocWatson42 (talk) 16:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: taking a look at the page now, just wondering if the facebook link in the reference section is some kind over advertising. :-) Lotje (talk) 16:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Deleted. Thank you for pointing that out. :-) —DocWatson42 (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I'm a little confused. Is this about adding the "List by short name" table? I'm not too concerned about bloat in a list article, but if something like that is added, I would be more comfortable if it had sourcing to verify it. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 00:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Yes.  As for sources, I would use the tables already in the article (as I did before), with the exception of the private correctional institutions and former federal facilities, which I propose to exclude from the table.  If you are referring to the "short names", they seem self evident to me.  Or are your referring to something else?  It also seems to me that it would be a good idea to include a separate column for the "Includes female inmates"/"Female-only facility" notations, hopefully a sortable column. ( I further cleaned up the two Washington Post references.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I do think matt.zapotosky is advertising on Facebook... :-) Lotje (talk) 06:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  very interesting... Lotje (talk) 06:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   <sigh>  I don't have the energy right now to clean that up. :-( —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   just tell me how to proceed and I'll do it for you. Take a good night sleep in the meantime. :-) Lotje (talk) 06:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Thank you.  Delete the Facebook link(s) and (ideally) reformat the references to CS1/Template:Cite news, with the basic, standard fields filled in (author/date/title/url/work/access-date).  As for me, this is early-ish for me, but I didn't get much sleep today. —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

text: , what is the new list adding to the article? I'm still confused about its purpose if it is just repeating information already in the other tables. Also, I don't think the "short names" are necessarily self-evident without sourcing. For example, in my experience, "USP Lee" is called "Lee County" not "Lee", and "USP Florence Administrative Maximum" is called "ADX" or less commonly "Florence ADMAX" and "ADX Florence". – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Then perhaps "short name" is a (ahem) misnomer, and can be left out.  To me, what the table did and would do is consolidate the information, so that locations can be compared across the entirety of the system (where the prisons are), and make it easy to find a prison without know what type it is, using only the name or location.  If a column for the female facilities is included, then it would also make those much easier to find.  E.g., if I want to find a federal prison called "Victorville" then I just sort the table alphabetically and look for the V's, rather than hunting through five different tables.  (Yes, I could use my browser's find function, but with the single table I don't have to know the exact spelling.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:42, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean now, and thank you for the explanation. A single, sortable table consolidating the five may be useful, but if you are willing to work on the page, do what you want. Thanks again. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 02:16, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Creating a summary table