Talk:Japan/Archive 10

message: Wow. Coming to Wikipedia to attempt to start updating my knowledge about modern-day Japan has brought a flood of memories from my university days in Canada rushing back.  Where I lived in residence with both Japanese and Korean students.  Whose discussions mimicked in many ways the discussions above, alebit, with a little bit more openness (face-to-face you know) and therefor, opportunity for reconciliation.  On the surface at least :-).  Best of luck with your resolution attempts.  
One suggestion I would have...put something in this article, and any others you think need it, that captures the raison d'etre of these discussions...it would be a very honest and very accurate element to consider for anyone looking to find out more about these subjects.  Maybe a little boring to "outsiders" who aren't really interested in what historical cultural group is responsible for what parts of another cultural group's modern make-up, and how heated those discussions can get.  But it's essentially human, and worth writing about.
Proposed Sub-section title?  "10 Reasons Why Japanese and Koreans Don't Really Get Along".  Hopefully to be followed by others with titles like "10 Reasons Why Japanese and Koreans Do Get Along".  The timing couldn't be better...
Eramosat 01:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Very Interesting Discussion...

message: Japan#Language begins with: "Japan's official language is Japanese[...]". This is technically incorrect. Japanese is not legally defined as an official language of Japan. As unspecified, it is rather considered customary law. The single place that it is legally defined is in courts: Judicial Code Article 74 states: "裁判所では、日本語を用いる" [=Will use Japanese within courts].
Main references:
ja:日本
Quote: 日本語が法律で公用語に定められているわけではなく、実質的な慣習に基づくものである（裁判所法74条では「裁判所では、日本語を用いる。」と定める）。
ja:公用語
Quote: 一つの言語の話者が圧倒的多数の国である場合、法律で定めるまでもなくそれが当然公用語となっている場合がある。日本における日本語がこれにあたる（ただし、裁判所法74条は「裁判所では、日本語を用いる。」と定める。）。
Just a note: Official_language
Quote: A few states, such as Eritrea and the United States, have no official language, although in most such cases there is a single de facto main language, as well as a range of government regulations and practices on which languages are expected to be used in various circumstances. Frequent legislative efforts have been made in the US Congress, however, to have English adopted as the nation's "official language", so far without success. Bendono 08:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Official language

message: Are the japanese mad for what we had done? Our relationship with them seems strong, but are they still mad?
::I think it depends on the individual - their age, their personal experiences, their personal view. But for the most part, the impression I get is that people either blame "the War" in a fairly detached, impersonal kind of way, or they view Japan (or humankind as a whole) as victims without assigning blame anywhere... it's an odd concept to grasp, I suppose, but I kind of like it. Rather than blaming the US, they take a more philosophical or metaphysical view, and see it sort of as the result of humankind going too far, leading itself to this. I have had several people explain this view to me, and it also seems to largely be the view taken by the Hiroshima Peace Museum. But, again, everyone thinks differently and has different opinions or ideas.... LordAmeth 23:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan and The A Bombs

message: This article is way too biased towards the so-called 'Wapanese' point of view. That is, the otaku, of non-Japanese descent, who gets his or her ideas about Japan from watching anime and playing video games. Let's clean this article of that influence, fellow Wikipedians.
65.97.14.167 21:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can certainly see where many sections need expansion, but I'm afraid I do not see the bias you speak of. The geography, history, politics and economics sections are all accurate and academically written, and almost entirely devoid of references to modern popular culture. The cultural section discusses pop culture only very briefly, in just the manner and extent that I think is appropriate. There may be something of a systematic bias across Wikipedia as a whole to have a multitude of long, detailed articles on anime/manga and a dearth of them on proper history or the traditional arts; but within the "Japan" article, I do not see it. If there are specific issues you would like to see addressed, I'd be happy to hear about them, and to discuss what kinds of changes should be made. LordAmeth 21:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way too biased 

message: Why is there no section in the demographics area on Japanese people? I know the article needs work (I've nominated it at Wikipedia: Article Creation and Improvement Drive), but if there are discussions of minorities it seems strange that there is no discussion of the majority group. Dekimasu 06:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please check the article Demographics of Japan.  I moved an entire paragraph from here to Demographics of Japan in August, to cut down on this article's size.  Please check there if you see anything that needs to be restored here in the Japan article.  (The article Demographics of Japan needs work also, if anybody is interested.)--Endroit 19:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese people

message: Where should I write if I want to add Nintendo and the game industry of Japan?　(Economy?　Culture?)--220.212.97.193 17:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nintendo

message: What do people think about asking for the Japan article to be semi-protected - i.e. anonymous IPs and recently registered users would be unable to edit. We get daily vandalism on this article from anonymous dynamic IPs and almost never get a positive contribution from them. I know a lot of people are afraid of touching this article (myself included) because it's so unstable. A semi-protection would give it this stability. I recently got the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki semi-protected and the vandalism has stopped. If this article is ever going to approach Featured status again, I think we need to do this. Bobo12345 00:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds good to me. Though I'd actually more like to see that done over at History of Japan. But here's good too. Both pages (and a number of others) definitely need it. LordAmeth 08:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree on both pages - semi-protection would be a great idea. John Smith's 11:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection?