Talk:Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft

message: "The name stands for Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft or German-American friendship - which at the time the band formed was a shot at DSF, the East German German-Soviet friendship organization."
Are there any sources to back up this assertion? "Deutsch-amerikanische Freundschaft" is a phrase that has been in mainstream political discourse in Germany for a long time. I'm not sure exactly how long, but I would be extremely surprised if it did not become current fairly soon after World War II. In any event, it is still in use now (for instance see Mainz feiert die deutsch-amerikanische Freundschaft). Its choice for the band's name would certainly have been consistent with the practice of "creating lyrics to be taken as a parody of words and phrases floating around in the public media," as well as with the message of Auf Wiedersehen (from Die Kleinen und die Bösen), which suggests that the Nazi imperialist past cannot be casually shaken off merely by acting as if it never happened. Therefore, unless the reference to DSF can be corroborated, I think it should be treated as POV and removed. Ireneshusband 08:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An even more obvious source is the Dutch firm making lorries (trucks), Van Doorne's Aanhangwagen Fabriek or DAF. Nuttyskin (talk) 03:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the band's name

message: I think the band's claim not to target anybody specifically is self-evidently false. The video for Der Sherriff features a Texas Rangers badge, making it pretty clear that George W Bush is being attacked personally. Should this be regarded as "original research" and excluded from the article, or as something so obvious that no corroborating sources are needed, and therefore a fact worthy of inclusion? Ireneshusband 08:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Targeting specific people

message: I have created the section entitled "The DAF Style". This is my first attempt to write a substantial part of an article about popular music and I am aware that I may not have avoided POV entirely successfully (I hope that isn't an understatement!). The documentation I have to go on is the music itself (as I hear it) and odd things I have heard or read journalists say over the years, but never took the trouble to note down. I have done my best, but I would be grateful if other people could have a look at what I have written and either correct it themselves or let me know how I could have done it better. Ireneshusband 23:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The DAF Style 

message: This is not usually what people are looking for under "Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft;" and thus should be moved to DAF. Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft needs to direct to an article relating to German-American relations, quite obviously. If there was a band named USA, and I am sure there is, we would not dedicate the article for USA to that band but rather a redirect to the United States article. Besides most music groups feature "(band)" behind their name in the article's title just like movies feature "(movie)" in the article title. Signaturebrendel 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. http://www.allmusic.com/artist/daf-p12661--Atlantictire (talk) 03:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to DAF or Deutsch-Amerikanische Feundschaft (band)

message: I've removed the hyphen from between "Deutsch Amerikanische" in this article because on all album covers it is either written as "Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft" or just "DAF". Their official website and Facebook page also lacks a hyphen.
Some examples: http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-192646-1159655001.jpeg, http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-60663-1303798516.jpeg, http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-231565-1111684541.jpg. The only example of the name being hyphenated I can find is the Kebabträume / Gewalt single, and in that case the whole thing is hyphenated: http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-119149-1235771575.jpeg.
HorseloverFat (talk) 08:59, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyphenation in name

message: I plan to move it back. Even in German the phrase primarily means the band: :de:Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft - David Gerard (talk) 20:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Do. Rothorpe (talk) 23:37, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll leave it a few days for further approval/disapproval - David Gerard (talk) 08:01, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

text: I'll note that the actual Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft http://www.deutschamerikanischefreundschaft.de doesn't seem noteworthy enough for de:wp to even mention on :de:DAF - David Gerard (talk) 13:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

text: It's been a week, no objection. Moving! - David Gerard (talk) 13:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed move back to Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft

message: The prose in the body text is distinctly purple. Rip It Up has been most productive for references, and I'll probably add a bit more purple in quotes. But basically, the whole section needs decent citation. I don't think any of it is wrong, but the opinions have to come from respectable critical mouths.
Main problem is I don't read German :-) I get by with Google Translate (quite usable when you know the subject matter), but I have, e.g. , which is images, so not c'n'pable into a translator, but looks to be a marvellous source for translated quotes from Delgado - David Gerard (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purple prose and severe lack of references 

message: So, Robert Gorl has just released an album as DAF, Nur Noch Einer (Down To One) . Looking for RS coverage - David Gerard (talk) 22:41, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New DAF album