Talk:Tim Drake

message: I've been a fan of Tim Drake as Robin since i first read about him in the "Knightfall" when I was 8 but h's been Red Robin now for nearly 3 years and I think it's time we changed the Display Picture, I mean it's not like the history of him being Robin is not here but we have got to move with the times. The same applies to the Dick Grayson picture on his link, it should be as Nightwing not as Robin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris2119 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: New Display Picture

message: Can someone cite the comic where we find out his middle name is 'Jeff'?  I'm missing a backlog and can't look it up myself, but it seemed off that it's not 'Jeffery' or something. -- Ipstenu 20:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, in all the secret files he appears only as Timothy Drake - kidfried 00:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to know I'm not going crazy! ;)  I took out 'Jeff' from the article. -- Ipstenu 00:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add (I know it's been a while) but the name 'Jeff' was the name that Tim was originally to be called, and indeed in one panel from Batman issue 441 (Page 14) has Tim being called 'Jeff' by Dick.  The letters page of a later issue explains the mistake 80.177.121.177 20:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jeff?

message: For research purposes for those wanting to know more about this particularly Robin, I think "Robin (Tim Drake)" would be a better name than simply "Tim Drake".  WesleyDodds 06:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I had three different answers, and I think I have to disagree.  Looking up 'Robin' gets you a summary on the four, so you can pick your Robin.  As Dick Grayson is now Nightwing, I imagaine one day Tim will become something else.  And at that point, 'Robin (Tim Drake)' would no longer fit.  When you have one 'person' for a hero it makes sense, but with all the multiple people who've been Robin, and all the ways Robins grow, it may just bit our asses later on. -- Ipstenu 22:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

text: No, I don't think so. Mainly because it is unclear just how much Tim really does know about genetics and molecular biology. I assume the "working relationship with Superboy" you are referring to is his attempts at cloning Conner. So far, as this story is being told in Teen Titans, we have no clear indication how much Robin really knows about cloning, as it seems that his equipment is doing all the work and he expects to learn the "secret" of cloning from what the equipment Brotherhood of Evil has stolen. --rrmonroe 17:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: Would it be safe to add under abilities, advanced knowledge of genetics and molecular biology, due to his close working relationship Superboy?
:No, I don't think so. Mainly because it is unclear just how much Tim really does know about genetics and molecular biology. I assume the "working relationship with Superboy" you are referring to is his attempts at cloning Conner. So far, as this story is being told in Teen Titans, we have no clear indication how much Robin really knows about cloning, as it seems that his equipment is doing all the work and he expects to learn the "secret" of cloning from what the equipment Brotherhood of Evil has stolen. --rrmonroe 17:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Powers & Abilities

message: I don't think we should list Earth-8, since it really adds nothing to the character.  Every single char who's been created since CoIE is an Earth-8 denizen, but it doesn't matter to them.  It's not like the GLs or Flashes, where their 'home' Earth affects their history.  If it becomes a thing in the future, where Tim makes adventures to E8, then yeah, but until then, it's something we've got listed on the Multiverse (DC Comics) page, and it's mroe apropos there.  If it added to the legacy of Tim, that'd be a different story. -- Ipstenu 19:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - Neodammerung 00:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed wholeheartedly. WordsSayNothing 06:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Earth-8

message: The importance of first the three Robin mini-series by Chuck Dixon and Tom Lyle is hugely underappreciated in the article as it currently stands.
The first series in particuliar was a sensation when it debuted, triggering multiple reprintings of the first few issues. After the public´s hatred of Jason Todd the (largely unexpected) popularity of the series led DC to re-examine their treatment of the character. None of this is mentioned in the article currently. 
Also Chuck Dixon has clearly had the most influence on the character and his development over the years, yet the article fails to mention him even once.
Im not enough of a fan of the character to make the changes but the article needs a big general rewrite to reflect the characters history outside of his fictional biography. - Hueysheridan 03:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mentioned in the Robin article somewhat.  Is that was you were looking for? -- Ipstenu 03:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. Its important info about the Tim Drake Robin and it should all be mentioned here as well. The article at present does a great job of explaining Tim Drake's continuity, but Wikipeduia is not Whos Who in the DC Universe, its meant to be a real encyclopedia and as such it should also cover ther real world aspects of "Tim Drake" such as how and why he was created, how his popularity contrasts with the unpopularity of his predecessor and why, the timeline of his various appearances series etc, and the creators who have been involved in his development. There are bits and pieces of this type of info already in the article, especially in the first few paras of "Character history", but nowhere near enough, and the examples I gave in my previous post are the mpost glaring omissions imo. Hueysheridan 22:00, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't remember too many comics written about that. There was the Robin Year Zero:Model Bulding one-shot, but otherwise, there has not been much written. --Chris Griswold 12:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You've complained about it more than once; why don't you have a crack at it? --Chris Griswold 07:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: He tried to, but Tim invented a fake uncle (and hired an actor to play him) so he could not be adopted or enter the system as an orphaned minor. It also gave him freedom to leave school. But, after Infinite Crisis it is unknown if Tim has been offically adopted by Bruce, but it is clear that Tim is living on the Wayne estate.--rrmonroe 17:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: In Batman #654 [6-28-06], Bruce propositioned Tim to reconsider adoption and it's understood that Tim accepted. (Tim cried in Bruce's arms)--Redredrobin 07:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some big problerms with the article

message: Did Bats adopt Tim since the death of Jack Drake?
:He tried to, but Tim invented a fake uncle (and hired an actor to play him) so he could not be adopted or enter the system as an orphaned minor. It also gave him freedom to leave school. But, after Infinite Crisis it is unknown if Tim has been offically adopted by Bruce, but it is clear that Tim is living on the Wayne estate.--rrmonroe 17:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Batman #654 [6-28-06], Bruce propositioned Tim to reconsider adoption and it's understood that Tim accepted. (Tim cried in Bruce's arms)--Redredrobin 07:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Father?

message: "*Robin may also be in posession of a Legion Flight Ring, which he recieved from Superboy, when the Titans traveled to the 30th Century to aid the Legion of Super-Heroes. Unfortunately following the Titans departure of the future, the Legion's history was re-written, leaving into question whether Robin or any of the Titans still have their rings."
I don't fault Ipstenu at all for removing this, but when I saw it, I thought it was interesting enough that it should be stripped of speculation-talk and added somewhere, even if not in this article. Suggestions? --Chris Griswold 20:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A mention of the adventure could be put in Young Justice and the Teen Titans? "When the Titans traveled to the 30th Century to aid the Legion of Super-Heroes, they were given Legion Flight Rings.  Since <Post Zero Hour?>, the Legion's adventures have been ..." something. IO forget -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 21:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legion Flight Ring 

message: I moved the Trivia bits into sections I thought were more approriate, though they still need some clean up.  Romance, Alvin Draper, and how he's different from the other Robins is in Personal Life.  The Titans stuff is in the Young Justice and Teen Titans section.  I think I got it all mostly right, but it made more sense to me to have the information folded in, rather than tacked on at the end as an after thought. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 14:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia no more

message: I would like to note that in the span of a few months, Tim loses two romantic interests/girlfriends, his best friend, his father, and his favorite superhero/friend (Blue Beetle). I have no idea where to do this. Suggestions? --Chris Griswold 05:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personal life? - Neodammerung 13:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I keep getting ideas like that when I should be sleeping. --Chris Griswold 23:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tragedy Boy 

message: Can anyone verify for a fact if the Robin II: The Joker's Wild! and Robin III: Cry of the Huntress mini-series were ever collected into their own respective individual trade paperback/hardcover volumes (or graphic novels, if you will)?  I know that at least Robin II was collected (along with other material) in Tragedy & Triumph.  However, as far as I can tell, the group of just Robin II #1-4 has never been collected solely on its own (aside from that collector's edition which had all of the variant covers for the entire mini-series in one convenient polybag, but in my opinion, that doesn't count) and the group of Robin III #1-6 has never been collected anywhere.  Does anyone have any definitive evidence of either of these trade paperbacks/hardcovers actually existing?  Additionally, why are Showcase '93 and Robin 80-Page Giant #1 listed at all?  For the former, again, I have no idea if a collected edition ever existed, and for the latter, I'm not sure it should count because it's just an individual comic (albeit a larger-than-usual one). --WordsSayNothing 23:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graphic novels listing 

message: Not only would it be radical and badical, it also symbolizes Tim's fate in the future of the animated series. Pleeeeeeeeeease? 71.217.236.119 01:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request: Tim Drake Joker pic!

message: While most of the article is pretty well-written, I am noticing a significant amount of personal opinion creeping in under the words "suggested" or "some people think" as well as other ways. I would like to remind folks that this is not allowed, as per WP:ATT, WP:NOR. If it is not specifically cited (and references will be checked), then it will be purged as WP:OR|OR or synthesis isn't allowed here at Wikipedia. Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: the folowing statement:
::::Furthermore, in Robin vol. 2, #136 (May 2005), Batman stated that Tim could potentially be smarter than himself or even Alfred.
keeps being added to and removed from the article. Let's hash out the precise noteworthiness and wording and come to some agreement about it before adding it back into the article, bc these constant add and reverts are somewhat destabilizing. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 22:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could I trouble you to put the specific quote that addresses this, as well as the issue that it occurs in here on this section? It keeps coming up, and I want to be able to direct folk who address it incorrectly to the Discussion page when reverting. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Skills & Abilities contention

message: The first appearance as Robin was listed as Batman #457. That's actually the first appearance of his new costume. Tim first became Robin in Batman #442 where he fought along side Nightwing and Batman against Two Face. I edited the listing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beanlynch (talk • contribs) 15:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tim's 1st Appearance as Robin 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure thats vandalism.  First, it's just kind of tacked on crudely at the end there. Second, after doing some research, I see no evidence of this title even being mentioned anywhere other than Wikipedia. And finally (heres the kicker), the corresponding image is taken directly from 52 #52 (as it states under the image's Fair Use rationale entry). Dalachon 11:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Robin/Nightwing/Batman

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thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: In the section about the Batman Beyond movie "Return of the Joker," this paragraph ends it.
"The older version of Tim was voiced by Dean Stockwell of Quantum Leap, whereas Mathew Valencia reprised his role as the younger Robin and the film's casting director Andrea Romano as the laughing "Joker Junior."
Also Robin(Tim Drake)was indeed "Joker Junior" but a trusted friend Dr. Leslie Tompkins helped Tim to sanity a year later but it was sad to see that in Batman Beyond:Return of the Joker Unedited which was to graphic and poor Tim Drake was captured and morphed to a psychopathic clown kid."
The last few sentences don't belong in the paragraph and don't make much sense grammatically or otherwise. I'm deleting them unless anyone has a problem with that. Tithonfury (talk) 04:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other media

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message: I don't know how reliable this is, but if it's accurate, it should be mentioned in this article. Tim Drake responsible for Batman's downfall? I'd say that's pretty relevant. 65.43.96.3 (talk) 15:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Batman R.I.P.

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message: Very screwed up. I'm not sure what it's supposed to say. Thmazing (talk) 19:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks whoever fixed it. Thmazing (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening line 

message: "As of 2008, the series is still ongoing but will end in February 2009 with issue #183."
Did it so occur? Thmazing (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  End of series (?) 

message: This article needs an alternate versions section like in Superman/Batman, and Titans Tomorrow, etc. Think so? (JoeLoeb (talk) 04:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other versions 

message: First the infobox image...
Bottom line here: The character is primarily recognized as "Robin" not "Red Robin". And even in that, the costume most associated with the character is the red and green not the black and red.
As for the character name... can someone, anyone cite a source - creator, editor, or in story - where it is explicitly stated that the character's name was legally changed in story from "Tim Drake" to "Tim Wayne"? (While your at it... where did "Jackson" come from?) Without that most, if not all, of the full and last name references need to be converted to "Drake".
- J Greb (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image and character name 

message: There is a suggestion for a split and merge from Redbird (comics) to here, see Talk:Redbird (comics). 65.93.13.210 (talk) 07:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Redbird

message: I added a collected editions section in. At one time this article included it and then it was deleted. If it was taken out for a reason, just let me know. Before adding the section back in, I checked several other pages that these type of lists have appeared on and none of them have been excluded. - RBA22 (talk) 16:10, 3 August 2011
:What are the dates in this section meant to represent?  The publication of the trade or the dates of the collected issues? --Acjelen (talk) 19:35, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Collected editions

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message: Tim Drake has recently "come out" in DC's new "Batman: Urban Legends #6," which is part of their new "Infinite Frontiers" reboot. That has been added to the DC Rebirth section of this article, but someone keeps falsely removing that section of the article, claiming that it's "grabage" or "vandalism". Can we please get an editor in here to confirm that the newly-added canon information is not in fact garbage or vandalism and meets the requirements of being part of this article?
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We have had several editors over the last few days, including some who are anonymous IPs, attempt to remove recent information about Tim Drake's sexuality as revealed in Batman: Urban Legends #6. Could we get the page semi-protected so that unregistered and new editors can't vandalize the page?
: Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Batman: Urban Legends" 

message: Superhero supersuit stronger staff fighting bad Guy. Kill him 2600:1700:5050:8010:ECEA:3133:7411:AD79 (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visaal Kanakamedala  

message: can he please get a new main image Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 23:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Image