Talk:Anne Salmond

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message: There was an excessive number of external links with this. I've moved most of them to here. Some of the stuff could be used as inline references; please strike out items that you've used. Schwede66 04:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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message: Hi folks, just a respectful observation about the inline quote in the article (below).  I can't actually see a direct link to the source that is cited, so that is problematic.  (I may have missed something on the reference and please feel free to  point this out if it is the case.) Now, there are some good ideas in the quote that could be reworded with references, or equally, summarised for the lede?  What do others think? I don't reckon it can stand in its current form but won't do anything at the moment.
"Dame Anne has a long-standing engagement with environmental issues, beginning with her work on the Parks and Wilderness Trust from 1990.  After founding the Longbush Ecosanctuary in 2000 with her husband Jeremy, she has become the patron of a number of environmental organisations, and speaks and writes widely about environmental challenges. In this work, she seeks to bring together Maori and Pacific philosophies about relations between people, land, rivers and the ocean with practical restoration work and cutting edge science.  She is the Patron of Te Awaroa: 1000 Rivers, a project that aims to restore waterways across New Zealand."
Please free to jump into this discussion.  It is all about making this important article better and I know a lot of experienced and wise editors have done work here before.  Realitylink (talk) 03:16, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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message: What is the thinking around another section in this article that allows for Salmond's positions on issues?  There are some allusions to her interest in the environment and obviously, her writing is very culturally relevant - certainly worth considering in the light of recent developments around Government policy.  This is why I think a section called:  Public policy postions might work. She has been active in a  range of forum and media outlets recently and while I understand that some of these might not strictly speaking be secondary sources (blogs, opinion pieces for example), I feel that when a person of her mana publically says or does something not directly to promoting herself but which is based on her experiences and previous writing, then it should be considered.
I quickly gathered a few sources that might be useful in such a section:
*No downside in standing tall, together. (2020) Her follow up on Stuff's apology for their inequitable treatment of Māori and tikanga Māori in the media that looks at historical documents and oral histories about the Treaty of Waitangi that could indicate an agreed sharing of power. She says in the article: "This is where Stuff’s recent apology for the inequitable treatment of Māori and tikanga Māori by Stuff and its media predecessors is so powerful. Stuff, now owned and run by New Zealanders, is taking up these agreements, and working out what they mean for contemporary journalistic practice in Aotearoa."
*One Strange People, And Another: Dame Anne Salmond on Tears of Rangi (2017). Salmond talking to David Hall about her book Tears of Rangi that amongst other things, unpacks a view that could see common ground between matauranga Maori and science, concluding: "The people who don't want to deal with the climate, they're also the people who want to close down the humanities and the social sciences. It's not handy to have people who are looking at those things closely and with a critical eye, because it interferes with power projects."
*Was James Cook a white supremacist? (2019). A challenging opinion piece in stuff by Salmond that presents its own 'evidence.' Unsurprisingly, it prompted a response: James Cook and White Supremacy, by Lorena Gibson, Catherine Trundle, and Tarapuhi Vaeau, with a response from Salmond:James Cook and White Supremacy: A Comment, by Professor Dame Anne Salmond.  Obviously, we don't want this to be a slanging match on Wikipedia, but there may be some ideas to unpack here?
*Anne Salmond: Racist underbelly seethes beneath surface (2021) A strong opinion piece...the challenge would be to deal with the content in a neutral way...
*When Worlds Collide. She talks about a lot of influences in her life, for example the Stirlings. 
*Dame Anne Salmond: Keep our wealth flowing (2014)  She writes in the opinion piece: "In New Zealand, a robust analysis of the contribution made by rivers, aquifers, harbours and the ocean - the blue economy - to our national accounts is needed urgently. I think the results would convince even the most died-in-the-wool sceptic that degrading or destroying our rivers, aquifers and harbours is the act of a masochist or fool."
**Dame Anne Salmond: Iwi vs Kiwi
*Anne Salmond: He Puapua and a forgotten promise
Ok, so I am sure you get the drift of this.  She has lots of other stuff in the media about the environment - possibly more based on science -  which I will try and track down later.  This approach to a new section is problematic - what do others think, should we do it?
I won't add anything to the current article at this point as I think it needs to be carefully considered by a range of editors first.
(talk) 05:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. Chances are you won’t get much feedback on this talk page, but once you edit the article others will let you know what they think. Schwede66 18:48, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

text: I will have a think about it and let the idea settle a bit. I reckon there is a way to do this so that it continues to tell her story; just not sure how many of the opinion pieces I could use?  What is your thinking about this?  Seems to me that it is ok from such a notable person - surely she is not being self-promotional and more just stating a position.  Realitylink (talk) 22:05, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You would want to write this so that it does not overpower the rest of the article. Keep things in balance and it’ll be fine. Schwede66 01:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

text: Very prudent advice, thanks.  Realitylink (talk) 04:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
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