Talk:NFL Europe

message: NFL Europa ist the official new name of the NFLE!
Greets, Gulp 22:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NFL Europa 

message: I re-added as best I could about how the NFLE, before last weeks news, had hopes of adding teams and having a playoff system again. I think it's relavent to the page because it shows how unexpected the folding is for most. Kanga-Kucha
:I've removed it as it's unsourced. Feel free to re-add it once you have the references to go with it. Thanks. Also, please add new posts to the bottom, not the top. Thanks. - BillCJ 01:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: High Hopes

message: Why was NFL Europa discontinued in 2007? The attendences seemed pretty healthy, the popularity of American Football is growing in Europe. Perhaps the article could say more about why the league ended, and what is the future for the sport in Europe. Are their any plans for a replacement?
:It's explained in the article. Read the article and you'll see why. --Crash Underride 01:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a reliable source or 2 to add such info, then by all means do. But if there isn't anything out there, then we can't add anything. Besides, if it was that popular in Germany, wouldn't the governments (state and/or federal) there have subsidized it to keep it going? ;) - BillCJ (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Simply untrue. NFL Europe was the most attended sport in Europe after soccer. --Z Doc (talk) 14:37, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Why did the league shut down?

message: Do we really need a seperate article for the 1991-1992 version of the World League? It really is the same league, with some of the same teams continuing. The articles have a great deal of redundant info, and could be merged rather easily?oknazevad (talk) 02:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant articles? 

message: According to the National Football League, NFL Europa and the World League of American Football (WLAF) are the same thing. The WLAF began in 1991, ran for two seasons (91-92) before being suspended for two seasons (93-94). It returned in 1995, reworked into a six-team European circuit and continued play until 2007.  Having two articles on the same organization makes no real sense. Therefore, I propose the useful text of the WLAF article be merged into this article (NFL Europe), also including the WLAF logo. I also propose this article be renamed to 'NFL Europa', the league's name for its last season. Current names are normally used, and this league should be no exception. Toa Nidhiki05 23:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge [[World League of American Football]] to this article 

message: So if there was ten teams,   and they each played each other team once during the regular season before the playoffs,   then that would be nine games played by each team.   How is there ten ?Eregli bob (talk) 06:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect each team played one other twice, having checked the 1991 WLAF season article quickly. Haven't checked the 1992 WLAF season yet, but the answer should be in those two articles. - Demokra (talk) 01:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, in 1991 there were five "rematch" games, mostly intercontinental or international rather than within the divisions for short travels and tie breaking. Sacramento (3-7) somehow managed to beat Frankfurt (7-3) twice, Barcelona and San Antonio each won at home, London defeated the Knights twice, Montreal has beaten Birmingham twice, and as the only US-US pairing and within the 4 team East division, Orlando helped twice in keeping the Skyhawks winless. Matthead (talk) 19:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[1991 WLAF season]]/[[1992 WLAF season]]: How many games ? 

message: As mentioned, this branding seemed to change over time. But there's a misconception (repeated by Len Pasquarelli) that the original "WLAF" became the "World League" at some point. A rudimentary search suggests the exact opposite.
The 1991-92 US/Canada/Europe league was usually called the shorter name, "World League":  logo on the Wembley field at the '91 World Bowl, this TV ad,/the (US?) football card set, and an official 1992 book. Certainly Americans (having 6 of 10 teams then) wouldn't need the name to explain which sport this was!
But Europeans might, and in the '95-'97 Europe-only league, it appears that the longer name, "World League of American Football", was officially used, even in American TV coverage. See video of the '95 opener '96 World Bowl and a poster for the '97 Bowl. The same logo was used, with either just "World League" or "World League of American Football". I'm yet to find any use of the "WLAF" logo in '91-'92 or the "World League" logo in '95-'97. Demokra (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Names used from '91-'97: World League / W.L.A.F.

message: UK newspaper The Independent has many, many contemporary 1990s articles online. Naturally slanted towards covering the Monarchs, but could greatly improve this article's range.
* Articles mentioning the World League
* Articles mentioning NFL Europe/Europa. Demokra (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources on the WLAF & NFL Europe-a

message: "Ex-Tottenham Hotspur striker Clive Allen also kicked for the Monarchs,[37][38] while fellow footballers Jesús Angoy, Manfred Burgsmüller and Silvio Diliberto kicked for the Barcelona Dragons, Rhein Fire and Amsterdam Admirals respectively.[39]" Considering that the game this league played is called football the use of the term "footballer" here is rather confusing.--Khajidha (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguity 

message: Helmet camera article says: "In 1991, the World League of American Football introduced the innovation of a miniature camera mounted on the right side of the VSR-3 Riddell helmet worn by quarterbacks. This rig was developed by USA Network and Aerial Video Systems (AVS). An antenna was placed in the crown of the helmet between an inflatable pad and the shell.  Each of these Helmet-Cams cost $20,000 and transmitted live game action.  These helmet cams were briefly used to provide live player's-eye-view footage in professional American football. However, their use was discontinued after players complained of the extra weight, and TV networks became concerned about the aggressive behavior the cameras captured." Yes, it was wild, like the real thing. Lots of noise, breathing, shouting, crunching collisions and confusing quick-changing video. Hear what Orlando QB Kerwin Bell has to say. A San Antonio offense player wore one in the loss against the Galaxy. Or the Fire QB. It's huddle, snap count, snap, chaos, tackle, then either close-up of grass, or view of the sky. As the World Bowl was in Europe, no helmet cam there. And no return in 1992 (nor ever? 2019). Also, the (only one) cam system was not only in the helmet, but also connected to the pads, probably to battery and transmitter, and cable without a coupling to disconnect. Someone had to hold the helmet behind the players back when it was off at the sideline. Interesting Chicago Tribune report. Matthead (talk) 21:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helmet cam in WLAF 1991 season only