Talk:Hacker/Archive 1

message: I'm having difficulty accepting the writing style (too informal for encyclopedic content, in my esteem), grammatical "style" (obvious typos and punctuation issues), and content (too much assumption of hacker-as-cracker) of User:Ylbissop's recent (uncommented) edits. I was in the process of correcting the first two when I realised that the temptation to correct the third is too great. I'm therefore asking other Wikipedians to do this. Please.
I ask this because I have a strong conviction that a hacker is as defined in , strong enough that I question my ability to remain NPOV on this issue. I could simply fix the style/grammar issues, but I would feel dirty for having my name associated with content to which I so strongly object.
I'm simply referring to the article's preamble, by the way. I don't mind that there are sections referring to "black hats" or whatever; they're just fnords to me. :-)
Thanks in advance! —cky 14:48, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent (2004-07-03) edits 

message: I dunno, who's disputing this? You? You should dispute in talk first then, I didn't spot anything, hence the partial rv. :-)
Here's my 2 cents to the dispute for you:
The two agonists (pro- and ant-) definately agree on this version of the story. In fact, since they agree (as in "I got this guy!" vs "Yeah I was stupid to go up against the other guy!"), that's hardly a dispute then. Hmm, and also in an agreement like this, usually the POV the two will reach is called "neutral", if you ask me :-).
So there you go. Have a nice day! Kim Bruning 20:45, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed and POV?

message: The information immediatly following this line looks like it needs to be moved elsewhere : "There are several recurring tools of the trade used by hackers to gain unauthorized access to computers:" Dustin Asby 09:39, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the most wanted hackers nowdays is so known Skr4tCH, not much information is provided, but he was one of first to crack the windows 2000 source
I removed this listing from the "brilliant programmer" list. First reason: I cannot find any other sources that mention him/her. Second reason: exploiting a security hole and downloading source code does not a brilliant programmer make. Sietse 06:50, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Discrepancies

message: Hey, I just wanted to compliment the article on it's great etymology.  This is the internet at its best...I had been searching for hours for a good etymology of the word "Hacker" and here it is, all laid out.  This will definitely help my essay!  I'll probably expand on what's here based on my findings at the OED and such. --pie4all88 02:34, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology of the term "Hacker"

message: I have a problem with the comment that leet is not used often, and that it is mainly only for the gaming community. I see people using leet all the time, and the neutrality of that statement seems disrupted. leet is used largely in public discussionf orums of all kinds, web design sites, blogs, and games. This should either be changed or removed. --Zeerus 01:31, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
But those people are a tiny minority Proto 14:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  leet