Talk:Cell (novel)

message: I believe in the story it was called KashAwak -see the "A" LOTRrules 16:44, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kashwak

message: As much as I hate to be a whiner, especially since I haven't read the book myself, this article needs some serious work. The entire first half of the article is written in-universe, which is against WP guidelines, and also looks very unprofessional. 
Also (and this is my biggest gripe), if you jump from the beginning of the spoiler alert down to where it ends, you haven't got a clue what the book is about! You need to add a short description of what the story is. Please, someone better suited than me, fix this. Hotdogger 00:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up this article someone, please 

message: The Dark Tower connections need to be weeded through and their value seriously weighed.  Some of the items on the list are discounted within the list, which pretty much signals to me that they're useless in an encyclopedia.  I enjoy fan-speculation and Stephen King multiverse exploration as much as anyone, but this is a bit goofy for Wikipedia.  Chris Stangl 18:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dark Tower connections

message: I was just wondering but isn't the full title of the novel: Cell: A Novel?  Just wondering.—Preceding unsigned comment added by ONEder Boy (talk • contribs) 
:Not really...most of his novels say that.--CyberGhostface 01:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Actual title

message: Does anyone else wonder where the military was througout the entire book?
KyleDecker
I think the characters speculate at one point that they think the military all had cell phones and therefore the pulse would have changed all of them. I think I remember reading that --Sopranosmob781 15:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "It wasn't much of a joke and Tom didn't Smile. "It's nowhere. How do you use a homeland force that now depends almost entirely on the celluar network to even Mobilize? As for...": That is referring to the National Guard only, not the rest of the armed forces. There would possibly still be army, air force, navy, marines, coast guard, and whatever else out there. WookMuff 21:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Okay, what actually caused the Pulse?  And who?--69.112.26.170 06:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing known, rampantly speculated. Terrorists, domestic or otherwise, are the most oft mentioned cause I believe. I think someone speculates about secret military experiments, but that could have just been my own speculation :) Yeah, Stephen King happily provided a story that bucks literary convention by having lots of randomness and unexplained happenings, just like real life (or so i hear) WookMuff 20:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If King doesn't give you a straight answer, than the answer always is "aliens".
-G
LOL i was kind of liking the theory that it was like Metal gear solid 2 with the patriots system and that it was sort of a computer virus that kept evolving over time in our massive network of code and basicly out electronic primordial soup that could somehow have led to a sentiant computer virus with an unkown plan for humans. While the infected where not extremely smart that could be because they were merely being manipulated by the god program and not fully controlled(raggedy man was like a shamen) but all my theory,while possible(i would love if someone debated this with me since i have been holding on to this theory for a while and it boring not to debate it)the way the novel end sort of shows that it was never meant to be revealed and with a writer like SK that most likely means it has no answer and is like making theories for lost,its pointless because if the writers dont know the answers than its just a story not a functining universe to discuss.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.42.210.161 (talk) 16:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Question 2

message: Why aren't there Infoboxes showing a bibliography at the bottom of novel entries for authors, like there are for album entries by musical artists? Not sure where this question should go, but it hit me as I wanted to browse some of King's past novels. Is this a project underway yet, or can we start it? Alanlastufka 14:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infoboxes 

message: I found an all too familiar sub-plot about Clay heading out of boston to find his son, who he hopes is still alive, to the sub-plot in "The Rising", by Brian Keene. The character within that book (sadly I cannot remember the name of the father) recieves a cell phone message from his son some 300+ miles away in an underground bunker hiding from the Zombies that now rule the post-apocolyptic world. The story picks right up with the father willing to risk life and limb to escape the bunker and head out to find his son before he is killed. The following story is loaded with extremely unsettling scenes of violence and harrowing close calls right up to the ending in which the father gets to the house and....... (not gonna spoil it for those who haven't read the book). any thoughts folks? 
Although I loved "Cell" I felt the storyline was, more or less, a regurgitation of Brian Keene's book. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.215.8.224 (talk) 19:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OR and unimportant. Sorry to be harsh but if you take a look at most plots you can find antecendents (sp?) elsewhere, that doesn't mean one is copying the other, merely that "great minds think alike" and are probably drawing from the same sources. Which, granted, is also OR, but then I am not wanting to mention it on the page :) I believe that the original Dawn of the Dead had something of a "urgent phone message-rescue operation-hijinx ensue" plot, though don't quote me on that. WookMuff 11:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: No offense taken, but i do feel that the genre is still a bit open for variations of plot structures. Plot similiarities are common in well used backgrounds... I.e. lords/knights/rangers protecting their king/baron/president from some devious plot to upsurp the throne/province/country and/or world. The saying, "great minds think alike" is often the defense of plaigarists (SP?) so simple an answer can not be credited to such a situation. Granted both may have drawn from similar sources, but what source did both draw to use the father worries about son some hundreds of miles away and travels through a second hades of zombies to get to him? I've read ALOT of Zombie books among which is "xombie;" none of these books resemble the closeness that "Cell" and "The Rising" share. the surrounding atmospheres in each is different granted... but you can't change a dog into a man with different series clothes, it's still a dog. My only arguement is that Brain Keene should at least be included as a VERY similar story for those who are fans of the Zombie genre. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.33.116.72 (talk) 04:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So maybe you can add a see also, but i still think that accusing Stephen King of plagiarism is a bit strong for NPOV, don't you? WookMuff 04:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  plot relationship to Brian Keene's "The Rising" 

message: This has bugged me ever since I first visited this page... is "Dark Horse Comics" actually mentioned as the site of his interview at any point in the story, or is that just someones assumption? WookMuff 06:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The first example I can find doesn't appear until the characters are staying at Tom's house, but yes, it specifically says Dark Horse. (Page 104 in my hardback Scribner's edition.) --Geoduck 02:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: k thnx :) 05:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dark horse" 

message: I read somewhere (I think it was in some literary magazine, but I'm not sure) that there was a connection between 'Cell' and H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos.  Is there a connection?  And if there is, what is it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.168.152.68 (talk) 20:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to the Cthulhu Mythos? 

message: I don't really think that this should be in here, cause if you're gonna reference one zombie/post-apocolyptic story, you might as well reference them all
LedZeppelin84 02:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  28 Days Later Reference 

message: I'll change the part of the Plot Summary where it says "... mild-mannered homosexual (this is only alluded to in the book) Tom McCourt ..." because there is one explicit reference to him being gay.
When Clay, Tom and Alice are in Tom's neighbour house looking for guns there is a sentence where it says something like "give a gay guy a gun and he starts acting like Sylvester Stallone".
I'll change it to (this only explicitly mentioned once). Vmerling
:He also makes reference to it when they're at the gas station.--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find it now, so maybe I imagined it, but I thought him being gay was explored further. (Although I did find a link here that talks about it)--CyberGhostface 23:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tom's Homossexuality 

message: Are we not carrying the whole "label every non-normal human a Zombie" thing a little far??
Don't the individuals have to actually meet the definition of what Zombies are before we add the Stephen King Flocks in "Cell" to the category "Zombies and Revenants in fiction??"
How about, from now on we refrain from labeling any set of Humans as such until such time as they are at least actually UNDEAD, f'r just one instance??
I am for that reason removing the Category "Zombies and Revenants in Literature" Tag from this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanos777 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that we ("speakers of English") use the term "zombie" whenever a human being is explicitly failing to meet the criteria for sentience coupled with free will.  So a mind-controlled person who could say, "I'm sorry, but he's making me do this" is not a zombie, and an animal-level intellect who could choose to act in accordance with some semblance of free will is not a zombie, but a humanoid who lacks both human-level sentience and free will (is being controlled by outside sources, or is acting purely on rudimentary seek-and-destroy instinct) can be called a zombie.  I believe the criteria is a little stricter than that, but it certainly doesn't have to include the criteria "undead," even though that is where the term originated.  And it is inherently useful to be able to compare works that are inherently similar despite one of them lacking the criteria "undead"... an undead zombie is far more similar to, and therefore more usefully compared to, a living zombie than it is similar to other forms of undead such as ghosts or vampires. Kilyle (talk) 08:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seriously...where the blazes does the over-use of the term "Zombie" end?? 

message: Is it really necessary to list shows and movies like 28 Days Later or the X Files episode when they have little to do with the novel other than that they have a similar premise?  Ccm043 (talk) 02:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not. Feel free to get rid of it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 03:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allussions/References 

message: Why is it such a horrible thing for me to create a page for the film?  I've seen pages for other movies that are currently in production.  H-E doulbe hocky sticks, I've seen pages for movies that aren't even in production yet.  Can I get some answers, and don't just tell me to read some other WP:BOLOGNA. Creamy3 (talk) 22:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cell (film)

message: Does anybody know the timeframe the course of the novel take place?  I remember at some point in the story it was like ten days? I'm just kinda curious. ONEder Boy (talk) 19:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: About 20 days all told. Things start happening just after 3pm on October 1, and Clay guesses that it's October 21 just before the ending. "Snow. Snow on the twenty-first of October. Was it the twenty-first? He'd lost track of the days." p. 443 of my mass-market edition. WLight (talk) 20:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Time span?

message: Does anyone else think that this film may have inspired the film, "The Happening"? The opening scene in the film was somewhat reminiscent of the events immediately after the Pulse Ad94dug(talk)
I thought the same thing until i looked up what the movie was really about174.42.210.161 (]]User talk:174.42.210.161|talk]]) 16:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not unless there's a reliable source that discusses it. Doniago (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Likeness

message: Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Midwich_Cuckoos if you don't know the story.Athulin (talk) 14:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  plot relationship to John Wyndham's "The Midwich Cuckoos"? 

message: I listened to it on audiobook, so hard for me to reference, but they mentioned a flight 1918 at one point, which of course is 19. I did the math while I was driving. ;) 70.22.46.70 (talk) 00:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Dark Tower Reference 

message: No idea if it's notable for inclusion in the article or where it would be placed but Stephen King refuses to own a cellular telephone.--72.1.222.126 (talk) 22:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the author bio right after the acknowledgments. 'Stephen King lives in Maine with his wife, the novelist Tabitha King. He does not own a cell phone.' p.451 WLight (talk) 20:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stephen King doesn't own a cell phone 

message: FYI.   Ikip (talk) 08:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of zombie novels]] is currently up for [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List of zombie novels|deletion]] 

message: My computer science class at the university I attend has an assignment on editing several articles on Wikipedia, and I've decided to edit this article on Cell (novel). My main objective is to improve the references, or 'bare URLs', as indicated by the Wikipedia banner at the top of the article. I'd really appreciate it if no one else did this so that I could do it for my assignment. But if I've made a mistake or two in editing, then I wouldn't mind if you helped me out and let me know. Thank you so much!
Oh, as an afterthought: I'd love to help with any other areas needed to edit this article, like adding additional citations for verification since I own a physical copy of the book and can add references and citations. So if there's anything else needed for this article, I'd be glad to help.
BrenSeesAll (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologize for this post. As you can tell, I'm a newcomer and at the time the post was made I wasn't aware that we didn't have to post on the talk page on what we were going to individually edit on each article. Please disregard that post. BrenSeesAll (talk) 02:05, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  In regards to bare URLs and a Computer Science Assignment