Talk:Post-Suharto era in Indonesia

message: This article does not reference the political and economic events of the 1998-2005 period in a way which is encyclopediac or even acceptable. The results of internal struggles, East Timor, terrorism, the delicate dance of parliamentary government that followed Suharto are all missing. 
Needs major expansion.
Stirling Newberry 06:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comments

message: The title of this entry seriously needs to be changed.  The correct translation of 'Reformasi' is 'reform', not 'reformation' - which has religious connotations.  It is a common mistake, but any Indonesian student should know this
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: I agree. "Reform" is the correct translation. Davidelit 03:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the translation reformasi to reform, but i don't agree the title should be changed from 'reformasi'. The word reformasi has very specific connotations. Reform can be anything - reform of what? Reform of the Indonesian primary school department? Reform of the taxation system? Just too general and is thus meaningless. Whereas 'reformasi' in the specific context of post-May 1998 is a well-known term amongst any English speaker with a mild interest in Indonesia. --Merbabu 05:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes a lot of sense. The use of the French word 'detente', or even the Hebrew word 'Shoah' instead of 'holocaust' are precedents. By the way reform of the primary school and taxation systems would be welcome :-) Davidelit 06:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I disagree.  Google Translate, as well as sources listed on the page (such as here) cite "Reformasi" as translating to "Reformation". Wikitam331 (talk) 15:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reformasi 

message: I could have misread it, but the article seems to imply that the Post Suharto era began with Gus Dur’s election to president. While of course Habibie was as close to Suharto as they come, arguably he’s been the most reforming Indonesian president since 1998 (with the possible exception of Gus Dur). The changes since May 1998 are one of the main, if not the main political/governance point in this period, and hence the article. Unleashing of the media (for those of us there at the time, this was incredible to see), the lead up to the significantly open elections and the countless political parties, the shooting of students in Nov. 1998, the separation of East Timor, etc, etc. – the list goes on. To leave out all this stuff is a major omission from the article. 
Last night I tinkered a bit with this – I put in a “stub section” for Habibie, and reinstated the removed mention of East Timor. But, it still needs a lot of work. --Merbabu (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Habibie ommission?

message: There are many gossipy parts of this section, particularly the sketchy and unproven allegations about missing funds.
The Regional Unrest section could more properly (and more neutrally) be re-titled as something like "overtures to regional identity" because Wahid was thinking outside the box and trying to accommodate self-determination w/o secession.
Other significant actions of his (e.g, overtures to Israel) that were bold are omitted, while trivia (e.g., last overseas visit) are included.
The term "memorandum" in reference to his impeachment is overly literal -- if it was "peringatan" in Bahasa, then "warning" or "warning letter" would be more accurate in context. Martindo (talk) 09:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wahid presidency 

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