Talk:Hi Jolly

message: Actually Hadji Ali was Jordanian from a very famous Jordanian Bedouin tribe and his real name is Ali Al-Hajaya .. and he's still a famous dude in Jordan .. the mentioned Syria here refers to the region of "Greater Syria" \ "The levant" or Bilad Al-Sham in Arabic which was under the Ottoman empire and not modern day Syria .. her's a link for a Jordanian site (ranked #10 in alexa's Top Sites in Jordan) talkink about Ali Al-Hajaya. http://www.ammonnews.net/article.aspx?articleNO=57325
I understand that anyone who visits Mecca is considered a Haji and it does not require being Moslem. Christians who made the pilgrimage were regarded with higher respect by their Moslem neighbors. So being called Haji is inconclusive. RichardBond (talk) 16:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hadji Ali was Jordanian 

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message: (According to the wikipedia) Smyrna was an Ancient Greek city located at a central and strategic point on the Aegean coast of Anatolia. . ... Most of the present-day remains of the ancient city date from the Roman era, the majority from after a 2nd-century AD earthquake. 
In nineteenth century there was no Smyrna at all. However western writers usually preferred to call the Ottoman cities with their Greek or Roman names to denounce the Turkish heritage. Like calling İstanbul as Constantinople. So this inclination continues in modern times as well. When you call İzmir as Smyrna, you instantly detach the city from the current context and you put it to somewhere in Greece. Usually there is another counterpart of this behavior, when there is a negative story one can start remembering the Turkish names of the same cities.
*See (in part) my comments higher up. Hi Jolly/Hadji Al/Philip Tedro was born in about 1828 and place names have gone through monumental changes since then. If you can sources that support your position, please cite them. This link used to point to a page in Arabic about our subject, but all I get now is the Ammon News home page. Hi Jolly may not even be notable; the article about the Camel Corps once said he was the head drover. No proof. Don't take this as a turn-off.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk  15:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Alpsinan -- the spelling "İzmir" with dot over the capital "I" did not exist until 1928, and Turkish-language forms of place-names weren't too often known in Western Europe or the Americas until the 1930s (see Names of Constantinople).  In the western United States in the 19th century, "Smyrna" would have been familiar from its occurrence in the New Testament, and almost certainly far more known than "Izmir"... AnonMoos (talk) 04:12, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Smyrna? It should be İzmir (or Izmir). This page refers to Smyrna which is an ancient city 

message: The article says that he was born Philip Tedro, and later says he was born Ali al-Hajaya. 04:04, 12 July 2021 2001:16a2:4554:ee00:f1d2:6db8:77e8:d435
:His father was Greek and his mother was an Arab, so he had both a Greek and Arabic name. AnonMoos (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article contradicts itself 

message: A page on Hi Jolly Monument was recently created and nominated for WP:DYK.
Because of the repetition and the relatively small amount of extra content there, plus further detail about Hi Jolly’s life not included here, a Hi Jolly Monument page does not really need to exist as a stand-alone at all. I suggest that its content should be merged into that at Hi Jolly, where the few extra lines and citations about this monument would seem most appropriate. Both are quite short pages, and serve only to split up useful resources.
I recommend that its content should be merged into Hi Jolly, where the few extra lines and citations about this monument would seem most appropriate. A REDIRECT would still take users here, of course.
It would be helpful to gain a swift consensus for or against such a merge as the DYK nomination has, of necessity, been put on hold. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:15, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal: Hi Jolly Monument