Talk:Santería

message: "Santeria" is also the name used by Puerto Ricans for their religion. I have no reason to believe that they learned santeria from Cubans. E A (talk) 12:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Many Cubans have moved to Puerto Rico over the years, especially since the Cuban Revolution, so that may explain why the term transferred from one island to another, either to describe imported Cuban practices, practices that developed in Puerto Rico itself, or a mix of both. Midnightblueowl (talk) 08:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Presumably, the appearance of the term (which arose in Cuba in the 1930s) in Columbia and Venezuela is due to the substantial numbers of Cuban migrants who have moved to those regions, especially following the Cuban Revolution. Midnightblueowl (talk) 21:28, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be, however this is speculative. At least, I have been told anecdotally that the term is in general usage so it seems to me equally or more likely that it arrived there by ordinary linguistic means to describe the same general phenomenon of syncretizing other religious figures with saints - it can be generally used in this way, not necessarily specific to the orisha faith, across the Spanish-speaking world. It is not, after all, a very non-obvious grammatical construction. However, this usage is in my perception less common and falling out of favor within the last century compared to more specific description of the Santería to which this article refers. In any case, the boundaries of what the more specific label fit are quite fuzzy. It's a difficult matter to address unambiguously. Cruxador (talk) 21:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Santeria isn't solely Cuban 

message: There are a couple of citation errors:
203. Bascom 1950, p. 65; Mason 2002, p. 71; Wedel 2007b, p. 114. Harv error: link from CITEREFWedel2007b doesn't point to any citation.
416.Brandon 1992, pp. 76, 77-78; Fernández Olmos & Paravisini-Gebert 2011, p. 42. Harv error: link from CITEREFBrandon1992 doesn't point to any citation.
--Graham Beards (talk) 10:04, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Graham Beards; I've now fixed those two errors. Midnightblueowl (talk) 11:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation errors 

message: I am familiar with Santería in Cali, where I live and in Sao Paulo, which I have visited. 
The spelling "oricha" is original, I have never seen it, it should be orishá or at least orichá, being way, way, way more common the first one, except in articles written by non-native speakers of Spanish.
The Wikipedia article says Orisha.
I started to correct spelling but was unable when I realized that the word "oricha" is spelled like that 116 times, my gosh.
The same goes for "babaloricha" which I have seen spelled as "babalorisha".
I highly doubt the person writing the article has ever heard the salsa songs devoted to santería where the letters "sh" are invariably used instead of the much more strong pronunciation "ch" which I have never heard used in santería rites as both letters or digrams "sh" and "ch" have a very different pronunciation in Spanish.
Also Yemaja seems an English translation and a poor one or at least very original of Yemayá.
Ogun is spelt Ogún and Chango is Changó, Babalu is Babalú, is not Lucumi but Lucumí, which is a very common last name in Cali. 
Most names in Santería are stressed in the last syllable and that is what the accent means.
There is mention of "guerror" in this Talk while one imagines it means to say "guerrero".
The word "Santeria" is used sometimes while most of the time says "Santería", which is the correct spelling.Ciroa (talk) 02:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Santería in Sao Paolo? Do you instead mean Candomblé, a related tradition of Brazilian origin? As for many of the examples you say are incorrectly spelled, are you referring to the Talk Page or the article itself? Because in the article, we do use spellings like "Santería," "Changó" and "Lucumí" throughout. Also, "oricha" is the standard spelling for the deities of Cuban Santería in the English-language academic and specialist literature on this topic, whose example we follow. Midnightblueowl (talk) 09:45, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Rather than errors in spelling, there aren't universally accepted spellings in the first place. It seems that the article generally leans towards the most distinctively Cuban variants, which is probably the best that can be done in this decade. Although, "guerror" seems very strange to me too since that one should indeed have a correct form. But, that's because it's a Spanish word and not a Lucumí word. Cruxador (talk) 21:33, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors in spelling 

message: I'm a Nigerian born and bred in Nigeria. I have always been attracted to non European identity and I have embraced Santeria. I have been mentally unstable before I sincerely adopted Santeria. As a Nigerian in Nigeria, I'm a sort of authority on Santeria and so I am sure that starting from 2023, Santafest (first December to fourth January every year) is a Santeria holiday season during when there will be a lot icing Santa (saint) associated with Elegua or Esu who will bring gifts for children. This is not the Christian Christmas. Santa is a key element in Santeria ✅ (Santa Remi (talk) 11:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas and Santa in modern Santeria