Talk:Hydra (chess)

message: Why is the computer called Hydra?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.134.81.210 (talk) 10:02, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because its architecture is based on multi-processing, so the computer has several thinking "heads", like a Hydra. SyG (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: The following text was found common between this article and www.hydrachess.com.
"evaluates about 200,000,000 chess positions per second, roughly the same as the much older Deep Blue, but with several times more overall computing power. Whilst FPGAs generally have a lower performance level than ASIC chips, Moore's law allows modern-day FPGAs to run about as fast as the older ASICs used for Deep Blue. The engine is on average able to evaluate up to a depth of about 18 ply (9 moves by each player), deeper than Deep Blue, which only evaluated to about 12 ply on average. Hydra's search uses alpha-beta pruning as well as null-move heuristics [1]. The extra search depth over Deep Blue is due to its use of more modern type B forward pruning techniques that are slightly less perfect, but generally play better due to the greater search depth these techniques permit."
This seems to have been copied FROM the wikipedia; and this text dates back to about June 2005 and earlier in slightly different wording in the wikipedia, whereas the www.hydrachess.com text seems newer.
We're obviously doing good work or something :-)WolfKeeper 18:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Non copyvio

message: Hydra has always used the handle Zor_Champ in the Playchess server, this has been known for years. When you say "team," it makes it appear as if they use a commercial program along with their Hydra engine to decide on what moves to play, which is untrue.  Dionyseus 21:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But what they mean by "team" is that they as a team created Hydra, in other words they want some credit too. Log into Playchess and ask them yourself, they regularly test their engine modifications in the Engine room. Their entire goal is to prove to the world that Hydra is the strongest chess entity, it would make no sense for them to use the aid of other engines, or human aid during games. Dionyseus 22:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that's not the way it works; you have to prove your shit. You say by 'team' they don't mean what everyone else means by team. Prove it; and until you have proved stop violating NPOV.WolfKeeper 23:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd like to know why you insist on putting in the article that centaurs regularly outperform Hydra.  Where is your proof of this? The recent 2006 PAL/CSS Freestyle Tournament clearly shows otherwise.  Dionyseus 22:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to know what makes you think that a centaur that includes Hydra wouldn't outperform Hydra; since humans+machines > machines or humans is quite a normal finding. In fact that's the main point of the freestyle tournament, to work out one way or another. Seems to me you're just deleting stuff you don't agree with; and you're doing it with absolutely no references; in fact you actually expect me to provide references that your stuff is true!!! As in no; YOU log onto playchess and get a quote. If you can't be bothered to reference your own claims, then your claims don't deserve to be in the wikipedia; and you certainly shouldn't be removing other peoples POV. Do I need to sic the admins on you? They won't put up with your stuff anymore than I do.WolfKeeper 23:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all Hydra cannot be duplicated so it cannot be used against itself, it is a machine not just a program.  Second, who knows whether a human can actually provide helpful suggestions to Hydra, for all we know any advice from a human, even from Garry Kasparov, would be weaker than what the machine can produce.  I think that we may indeed have to undergo mediation because it seems you are either refusing to listen to what I'm saying, or you are not understanding what I'm saying, and you insist on including your claim that centaurs regularly outperform Hydra when I have demonstrated that claim is clearly untrue, and you refuse to provide references.  Dionyseus 23:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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