Talk:To a Mouse

message: I love the works of Burns but I don't think that this article is any good at the moment.  If it was a critical discussion of the poem that would be fine; even if it was an example of something that would be okay; but a straight copy of the poem has no place in this project.  After all it's supposed to be an encyclopedia not a poetry book.  This should be moved to WikiSource -- Derek Ross 19:24, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I found this article from the Burns Supper article.  Please do not delete it! But I do feel that the meaning as written here is way off.  What Burns actually seems to be saying is that mice (and all of nature other than man) often find that life brings grief and pain, but the little mouse at least experiences only the pain of the moment whereas man remembers his pain of the past and worries about the grief and pain that the future may bring.  Gandydancer (talk) 13:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: article

message: I was taught the name of this poem was To A Mouse, On Turning Her Up in her Nest, With the Plough, November, 1785  ? Traslaen 23:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's how I've always known and recited it too. Checking various Burns sites confirms that the title begins "To a Mouse" and not "Tae a Moose". Changing. Sleety Dribble (talk) 21:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  To a Mouse name? 

message: Might want to include some notable references in popular culture.  F'rinstance, I remember on Batman the Bookworm corrected Batman's recitation "The best-laid plans of mice and men..." (This is OR and should be researched and cited if it's to be added to the main page.) --Davecampbell 23:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References in popular culture? 

message: I was able to get a copy of the poem onto the site, but dont have enough time to format it properly. Anyone with some experience with html should clean it up a bit.
Gas-Can
:If you look at the page history, you will see that several people have already tried to put a copy of the poem onto the site, and it has always been taken off again. There is a reason for this: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and is a place for articles about the poem, not for copies of the poem itself. Copies of the poem itself belong on Wikisource; as you can see, there is a link at the bottom of the article to the page on Wikisource that has the text of "To a Mouse". --Paul A 02:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Poem text

message: This is what the wikisource box is for. The text is far, far too long and unnecessary. Spanglej (talk) 04:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I commented above that I think it is good to keep the poem but move its location to the end. Many people, myself included, come to the article by searching for a known phrase. But it does break up the article too much.--Bruce Hall (talk) 04:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  full text not needed  

message: It wakes my mind to Hx!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.94.27 (talk) 15:24, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  first Robert Burns I've read- Luv it! 

message: I assume that the reference to "the main romantic idea of experiencing something through nature" in final paragraph of the Reception section is a reference to Romanticism and so I added an internal link.  Correct it if I am wrong. --Bruce Hall (talk) 04:08, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanticism reference correct?

message: The text of the poem in the article has many differences from the 1786 original in spelling and punctuation. The text hear appears to follow later editions, which have been "cleaned up" or edited. Shouldn't the article follow the original? See Reference 2 which shows the original. There's been a lot of discussion on this Talk page about whether the text should appear at all, and part of the justification for keeping it is that it provides a good sample of the Scots language. To an "improved" version of the text, and not the original, seems to undermine that objective. I'd fix it myself if I had the time. Omc (talk) 17:22, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text of poem does not match original 

message: Norton's Anthology apparently over-simplified or mis-interpreted creating controversy --probably for generations of readers-- where there is none.  Perhaps the confusion comes from modern farming method, where one no longer has to physically hold the plow behind a team.  When Burns was "holding the plow" he was indeed actively plowing.  It is like composing a poem while driving your car - it's done in your head and when you are finished you write it down. 
"John Blane," says Mr Chambers, "who was farm- servant at Mossgiel at the time of its composition, still lives at Kilmarnock. He stated to me that he recollected tho incident perfectly. Burns was holding the plough, with Blane for his driver, when the little creature was observed running off across the field. Blane, having the pettle, or plough- cleaning utensil, in his hand at the moment, was thoughtlessly running after it, to kill it, when Burns checked him, but not angrily, asking what ill the poor mouse had ever done him. The poet then seemed to his driver to grow very thoughtful, and, during the remainder of the afternoon, he spoke not. In the night time he awoke Blane, who slept with him, and, reading the poem which had in the mean time been composed, asked what he thought of the mousie now."
Linzzay (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like some of that last paragraph should be incorporated into the main article, at least the part about chasing the mouse, since it gives context to the first stanza. KevinBTheobald (talk) 01:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Holding a plow" controversy created by Norton Anthology