Talk:The Amazing Race/Archive 1

message: As a seasoned traveller-slash-backpacker and an avid fan of "The Amazing Race", I would like to suggest a world route that explores new locations from already previously visited countries, as well as places not yet featured by T.A.R. These places can offer some exciting challenges as well as a refreshing view of our world. This show is a good promoter of world tourism, as well as showing the humorous incompetence and frustration of the typical American traveller. Knock yourself out with these fabulous sites (which I have all visited). If I may also suggest lest the CBS producers of T.A.R., Elise Doganieri and Bertram Van Munster, can encounter this, I would like it if they extend the legs to at least fourteen, six Fast Forwards, five Yields, and four Non-elimination Legs with twelve Teams of two competing.
Starting Point:
Manhattan, New York, USA
to
Vina Del Mar, Chile (Elimination/Fast Forward)
Leg Two:
Vina Del Mar, Chile
to
Fortaleza, Brazil (Elimination/Yield)
Leg Three:
Fortaleza, Brazil
to
Antananarivo, Madagascar (Elimination/Fast Forward)
Leg Four:
Antananarivo, Madagascar
to
Egilsstadir, Iceland (Non-elimination)
Leg Five:
Egilsstadir, Iceland
to
London, United Kingdom (Elimination/Fast Forward)
Leg Six:
London, United Kingdom
to
Athens, Greece (Non-elimination)
Leg Seven:
Athens, Greece
to
Kathmandu, Nepal (Elimination/Fast Forward)
Leg Eight:
Kathmandu, Nepal
to
Harbin, China (Elimination/Yield)
Leg Nine:
Harbin, China
to
Jayapura, Irian Jaya, Indonesia (Elimination/Yield)
Leg Ten:
Jayapura, Irian Jaya, Indonesia
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Siargao, Philippines (Non-elimination/Fast Forward)
Leg Eleven:
Siargao, Philippines
to
Broome, Australia (Elimination)
Leg Twelve:
Broome, Australia
to
Invercargill, New Zealand (Non-elimination/Fast Forward/Yield)
Leg Thirteen:
Invercargill, New Zealand
to
Niihau, Hawaii (Elimination/Yield)
Finish Line:
Niihau, Hawaii
to
Key West, Florida (Winner)
:This is a bit out of scope for an Encyclopedia entry.  Your suggestion would probably be more appropriate on a fan-site or sent to CBS.  I'm not trying to Flame you, just inform you that Wikipedia isn't a BBS.SDG 15:52, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Suggested Route For The Next Season 

message: Madchester, I'm not sure why you took out my edit without explaining why in the discussion, since I feel it is a valid contribution.  I've since removed what you may feel is extraneous information, but I still think it adds to the section.
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(The text is now "This usually results in the comical appearance of teams who feel they are coming last checking in wearing several layers of clothes at the pit stop.")
Please at least leave an explanation if you're going to take out a chunk of text you don't like. --Vision4bg 15:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-elimination legs 

message: Hi evrybody, I'm an Indonesian wikipedia n also an Amazing Race fan. I just started 2 articles about TAR in Indonesian. I hope u guys can help especially for the images. Thank you!--Indoboy 15:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TAR in id 

message: Would it be possible for someone to get an image of the blue Route Info card to go with the description like the others (Detour, Roadblock, FF, Yield)?  I know they don't show it on the website, but perhaps it could be taken from a screenshot.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.69.161.86 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 17 October 2005  (UTC)
:If it's just for an icon on the route info pages, someone good at pixel art might be able to make one. Andy Janata 03:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be nice if we could get a route marker from Season 8 too.Anchorage 13:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea; done. CrazyLegsKC 02:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route Info image 

message: I was wondering if I could have permission from the moderators of The Amazing Race section to post in each season a section stating the reason's for each team's elimination, like the sections they have in the Survivor Wikipedia articles. Thanks.
-Hans
:There's already links to other sites that contain full recaps and sypnosis of each leg of the race.  Notable eliminations are already included within the race trivia. --Madchester 07:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eliminated Reasons 

message: OK, here's something to discuss. In Season 1, Nancy and Emily received a 24-hour penalty for voluntarily quitting a task. In Seasons 6 and 7, several teams received 4-hour penalties for voluntarily quitting tasks. There are two popular explanations as to why the penalties were different.
# The 24-hour penalty from Season 1 was judged to be too harsh and was reduced for later seasons.
# Nancy & Emily got a larger penalty because the task that they didn't do was a Detour.
Which is correct? Brennan from Season 1 has said (on two different message boards) that the 4-hour penalty for quitting a Roadblock did indeed exist back in Season 1. This seems to imply that #2 is correct, but is a message board post authoritative enough for Wikipedia? I don't remember exactly what Boston Rob said about the 4-hour penalty in Season 7, does it really support #1?
It's kinda hard to tell which one is correct because no team has quit a Detour since Season 1.
128.230.13.84 00:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some editors would say that a messageboard is not a "valid source" per Wikipedia:Reliable sources, but I'd disagree, since they've provided a lot of info for the Race pages.  There's not too much info bout the race from the official site besides the vanilla details from the show itself.  Have any links to Brennan's responses? --Madchester 00:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's Brennan's message.  In this case the source wouldn't be a messaqge board, the source would be a person who ran the race and read every page of the rule book.  I would consider this a very reliable source. Jtrost 01:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never read that post while on holidays... I have no doubt it's Brennan, but I know some editors would use the WP:Verifiability card to say that you don't know if it's him or not.  We could just use his comments as a counter-reference to what we've seen the past few seasons. --Madchester 05:43, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why, then, does the page say that the standard penalty for skipping tasks is 4 hours, with no mention as to the possibility that 4 hours is only for Roadblocks, while 24 hours is for Detours? It's more than likely that Brennan is posting and what he's saying is trueHansTAR 01:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penalties 

message: As much as the 100th episode was celebrated and such, I don't think there's been 102 episodes of The Amazing Race. Here's a breakdown of each season:
Season 1: 13 legs, 13 episodes (1 per leg)
Season 2: 13 legs, 11 episodes (Leg 8&9 two hour special, 2 leg finale)
Season 3: 13 legs, 11 episodes (same as above)
Season 4: 13 legs, 13 episodes (1 per leg)
Season 5: 13 legs, 12 episodes (2-leg two-hour finale)
Season 6: 12 legs, 12 episodes (double length leg shown over two episodes, 2-leg finale)
Season 7: 12 legs, 11 episodes (Leg 5&6 two hour special, double length shown over two episodes, 2-leg finale)
Season 8: 11 legs, 11 episodes (Leg 7&8 two hour special, double length shown over two episodes, 1-leg two hour finale)
This adds up to only 94 total episodes. There HAVE been 100 total legs, and if double-length legs are counted as two, then there have been 104 "legs". But nowhere, as far as I can see, is there a number 102. If someone can correct me, please do. HansTAR 01:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seasons 6 & 7 each had a mid-season clip/recap episode.  Perhaps add that to the 100 total legs?  It doesn't seem to make sense, but that's gives the number 102. --CrazyLegsKC 17:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, forgot about those. Still, it's not 102 episodes, so I'm curious to what someone like Madchester would say. 207.30.196.58 00:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  102 Episodes?