Talk:Metempsychosis

message: Unless there are objections. I will merge this article with the one we have on reincarnation, the exact same topic. RK 18:24, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
:Keep a redirect --and don't drop any stitches! Wetman 18:29, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger notice

message: There is a very clear distinction between the concepts of Metempsychosis and of Reincarnation as explained in the "The Columbia Encyclopedia".
:Transmigration of souls or metempsychosis (mtm´´sk´ss) (KEY)  [Gr.,=change of soul], a belief common to many cultures, in which the soul passes from one body to another, either human, animal, or inanimate. (in The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition.  2001-05)
Most of the material of this article was collected from material "rejected" in the reincarnation article. --212.113.164.104 20:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason most of the material was rejected was probably because it was unsubstantiated - I suggest we re-merge the two articles again. GourangaUK 11:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Differentiate article

message: I removed this from the article:
:IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS STATED ABOVE, AND "BEYOND" EDITING IT APPEARS: METEMPSYCHOSIS REFERS TO THE EXPERIENCE OF THE TRANSMIGRATION OF THE SOUL, AND IS INSEPERABLE FROM THE DOCTRINES OF REINCARNATION. WE MUST AVOID TOO MANY CLINICAL HARD EDGES IN REFERENCE TO THE MOVEMENT OF THE SO-CALLED SOUL FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. REALLY. -WEST GOMEZ
Melchoir 04:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: I am removing the following passage because it is clearly false:
There is no authority in any of the sacred writings of Eastern religions for such a belief as metempsychosis into other animals. The only semblance to such an idea is found in the Kathopanishad (Chapter 5, Verse 9) which says that some of the souls, according to their deeds, return to the womb to be reborn, but others go into "the motionless", which is interpreted by some that they may reincarnate down even as low as the minerals. The Sanskrit word used in that place is "Sthanu", which also means "a pillar" and it is similar to the passage in Revelation that says: "Him that overcometh, I will make a pillar in the house of my God, thence he shall no more go out." This passage is regarded in Esoteric Christianity with the meaning that when humanity has reached perfection, there will come a time when they will no longer be tied to the wheel of birth and death: that is, liberated from the "rebirth" cycle (or "motionless").
See evidences from Eastern scripture below:
*"When one dies in the mode of passion, he takes birth among those engaged in fruitive activities; and when one dies in the mode of ignorance, he takes birth in the animal kingdom." (Bhagavad-Gita 14.15)
http://bhagavadgitaasitis.com/14/15/en1
*"At the time of death, the King saw that the deer was sitting by his side, exactly like his own son, and was lamenting his death. Actually the mind of the King was absorbed in the body of the deer, and consequently -- like those bereft of Krishna consciousness -- he left the world, the deer, and his material body and acquired the body of a deer. However, there was one advantage. Although he lost his human body and received the body of a deer, he did not forget the incidents of his past life." (Srimad Bhagavatam 5.8.27)
http://srimadbhagavatam.com/5/8/27/en1
For a summary of the full story regarding Jada-Bharata Maharaj see the followng link:
http://srimadbhagavatam.com/5/8/summary/en1
GourangaUK 11:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsubstantiated information

message: The word appears in Molly Bloom's question to her husband, Leopold, in James Joyce's seminal modernist novel, Ulysses. In this multi-layered novel, at one level, Leopold's matter-of-fact and accurate response indicates that the ancient Greek hero's spirit resides in this most typical of modern men, a bumbling, cuckolded, seller of advertising copy.
'Metempsychosis' is the name of the last stage of the video game Ikaruga.  The stages are Ideal, Trial, Faith, Reality, Metempsychosis, then Spirit Being.
Omega Metempsychosis is the name of the boss at the climax of Chapter 8 in Xenosaga III. The significance is that the boss itself is a combination of the bodies of Omega Res Novae, Abel, and Dmitri Yuriev; or more accurately Yuriev's transmigration into godhood.
'Metempsychosis' is the meaning of 'Tensei' in the Japanese series of role-playing games, Megami Tensei. The full title translates to 'Metempsychosis of the Goddess'.
In the video game Soulcalibur III, upon entering a battle against Zasalamel, a character seeking to free himself from an endless cycle of reincarnation, the announcer will sometimes say, "After countless lives, he challenges the chains of metempsychosis."
In the short story 'Angelic Butterfly' by Primo Levi, he refers to "Physiological Foundations of Metempsychosis". This is a chapter in a study that proposes that all animals possess that ability to transform like a butterfly.
"Infinite Jest" by David Foster Wallace, features a hypnotic late-night radio DJ named Madam Psychosis.
: PLEASE NOTE. I was unable to verify the bulk of this material, much of which is both dubious and highly trivial, and all of which lacks any kind of reliable sources.  Listing every minuscule mention of "metempsychosis" in a book or film IS NOT A GOOD THING AND WEIGHS DOWN THE ARTICLE.  As a compromise measure, I have moved this unsourced section here, to talk page, so that it is not "lost" in the edit history shuffle.  Please do not re-insert this material without providing the reliable sources deemed necessary by WP:V policy and carefully consider whether or not the material you are reinserting is actually going to be an improvement.  Thank you, Burntsauce 17:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metempsychosis in popular culture 

message: Or whatever your name is. You can see that though you present your arguments as monolithic they are as impervious as Swiss cheese.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.106.137 (talk) 09:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please see my specific objections to your counter-arguments Redhaylin 

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