Talk:Papuan languages

message: This article seems to be only about genetic classification. What about typological characteristics like Foley outlined in 1986? After all, the Austronesian page attempts this with a "structural" section. BlakeALee (talk) 02:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: structural characteristics?

message: Kwamikagami, in your recent changes you appear to be saying that Ross argues that there is no Trans-New Guinea family and that it's actually an areal group. I can't see this in the paper you link to, and in fact he clearly says that his analysis of pronouns supports the idea of the TNG as a large family, although in a somewhat different form from that proposed by Wurm. Dougg 01:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry. That was a very quick and sloppy edit. I'm still reading his paper, and working out all the subclassifications. I'll update the article accordingly. Maybe not tonight, though. kwami 08:22, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TNG family

message: I have removed Pyu from the listing of implied isolates, since Ross does not imply it is one.  Refer discussion on the page for Left May-Kwomtari languages.MarcusCole12 08:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ross never addressed it at all, so it should probly go under unclassified. kwami (talk) 09:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Isolates

message: For biological species, there is a status about how endangered they are, and specific articles may mention what endanger them.
In the present article, the negative classification (neither australian, nor austronesian) hints at people that don't fit
in the current geopolitic world. As it is the article is purely linguistic and does not fit in a more general context. I am certainly not competent to fill the blanks here :( 82.67.232.89 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  papuan languages and geopolitic 

message: Several languages of Flores, Sumba, and other islands of eastern Indonesia, most notably the Savu languages, are classified as Austronesian but have large numbers of non-Austronesian words in their basic vocabulary and non-Austronesian grammatical features. It has been suggested that these may have originally been non-Austronesian languages that have borrowed nearly all of their vocabulary from neighboring Austronesian languages, but no connection with the Papuan languages of Timor has been found.
This statement does not reflect any known linguists point of view; and cannot be supported by adequate references. It is simply and plainly wrong. The languages on Sumba definitely have no Papuan grammatical traits nor any Papuan lexicon (check e.g. Onvlee's dictionary of Kambera, and Klamer 1998, A grammar of Kambera). In fact the languages of Sumba are among the most conservative Austronesian languages in eastern Indonesia! There is NO evidence that Savunese has any Papuan features. Of SOME of the languages spoken in Flores (e.g. Lamaholot) there is grammatical evidence suggesting a prehistoric Papuan substrate. 
The suggestion that all these languages are Papuan relexified with Austronesian is wrong, and there is no-one who ever claimed this, for the simple reason that it cannot be substantiated by any known evidence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.229.235.16 (talk) 13:36, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Papuan languages on Sumba and Flores? 

message: Here are the names listed in Ruhlen, to verify that we at least have redirects for them. — kwami (talk) 08:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, all linked. — kwami (talk) 02:20, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names in Ruhlen 1987 

message: Where I can get Language statistics by census?--Kaiyr (talk) 08:49, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language statistics by census 

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