Talk:History of the Church (book)

message: suggest you change title--this is ambiguous--possibly use one of the later titles.DGG 18:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the current name of the work—it's always best to use the current name and not a former one (I'm not sure what you mean by "later titles"—I'm assuming you mean "earlier"); disambiguation is clearly marked at the top for those looking for the history of Christianity; the name of the article was not used at all, even as a redirect page, prior to my starting the article. I don't see much potential for confusion. Clearly people have not been typing in "History of the Church" and expecting it to take them somewhere, because the page was empty. -SESmith 01:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: In Vol. 4 of this work there are some quotes that I wonder if they are to be attributed to Joseph Smith, and if so, do they attest to him having been involved in Freemasonry? 
:Tuesday, 15.--I officiated as grand chaplain at the installation of the Nauvoo Lodge of Free Masons, at the Grove near the Temple. Grand Master Jonas, of Columbus, being present, a large number of people assembled on the occasion. The day was exceedingly fine; all things were done in order, and universal satisfaction was manifested. In the evening I received the first degree in Free Masonry in the Nauvoo Lodge, assembled in my general business office.
:Wednesday, March 16.--I was with the Masonic Lodge and rose to the sublime degree.
The online version I have looked in isn't paginated, however the first quote should be on page 551 and the second on page 552. 
I am also looking into a possible quote from John A. Widtsoe in Evidences and Reconcilliations allegedly attesting to the same. __meco 14:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As the article suggests, most of History of the Church was actually written by Smith's secretaries, and everything was heavily edited by the LDS Church when it was being compiled, so it can't be accepted unquestionably as the exact words of Smith. That being said, I don't think there's much academic dispute that Smith was a Freemason—there are enough supporting documents outside of History of the Church that substantiates as much. Snocrates 04:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joseph Smith a Freemason? 

message: Under the section "Status in the Church", it reads "…Roberts's History of the Church has never been published by LDS Church…"  This appears to be incorrect, since each volume states on the title page "Published by the Church".  The Deseret News in Salt Lake City is also identified, but not specified as a publisher.  I will remove the incorrect statement.  Rich jj (talk) 14:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On the link you provided, it says "Published by Deseret News", not "Published by the Church". Good Ol’factory (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Published by the church 

message: Suggest name change to "History of the Church (book)" Any objections? If not will do it soon. Rogerdpack (talk) 11:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be clear, what is the reason the move needs to be performed? In other words, what will happen to the un-disambiguated History of the Church? Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  name 

message: I'd just like to say that I disbelieve that the Tanner's counted all supposed 62,000 changes minutely by hand.  That must be an estimate.  Rogerdpack (talk) 11:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's likely been done by computer at this stage. It's fairly easy to compute once you have electronic copies of both. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:29, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  tanner criticism 

message: : The following was origionally posted to Talk:History of the Church/Comments, but should have been posted here, so moved. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  From Talk:History of the Church/Comments 

message: At least that gets more hits than this. This should be a disambiguation page. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Isn't the History of the Church by Eusebius?

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