Talk:Patrick Bouvier Kennedy

message: Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Apr 24 to Apr 30 2004, consensus was to keep.  Discussion:
Delete. This page cannot be expanded because all it talks about is the biography of someone who died in infancy. It never will be able to go past a stub. 66.32.142.19 21:54, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: JUST GET IMAGES FOR INFOBOX ON GOOGLE. WHY ARE YOU SO LAZY 139.193.232.104 (talk) 11:16, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Article speaks of a stillborn sister, Arabella, that was buried with JFK and Patrick in Arlington in Dec. 6, 1963, and the list places her after Patrick.  So does this mean that JFK and Jackie were expecting another child at the time of JFK's assassination?  Is it factual and is it in correct chronological order?
:The stillbirth in question occurred on 23 August 1956.  According to her biographers, Jacqueline Kennedy was pregnant five times. Her first pregnancy resulted in an early miscarriage in 1955; her second was the girl who was to be named Arabella, stillborn on 23 August 1956; followed by Caroline (1957), John (1960), and Patrick (1963). - Nunh-huh 06:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is Arabella?

message: I'm wondering about the accuracy of the statement that Edward Kennedy named his son Patrick after JFK's and Jackie's infant son.  Patrick Kennedy was Edward Kennedy's grandfather - perhaps that's who he named his son after? Especially considering that "Joseph" was also the middle name of the grandfather and does not match the middle name "Bouvier" 165.189.169.190 (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Named After

message: Does anyone know if Jacqueline Kennedy's cigarette smoking would have caused the respiratory problem? And/or does anyone know why the C-section was done so early? Did Jackie go into labor early or was there something else? jengod (talk) 03:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Smoking, birth

message: I agree with whoever removed the "Kennedy children succession box", so I also removed it from the John F. Kennedy Jr. article.  It was not in the Caroline Kennedy article anyway, but even if it was, three people does not seem like enough to have a "succession box", two definitely is not enough, and by the time I removed it from the John Jr. article, there was only one.  Neutron (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Succession box

message: Surely being born 5 and a half weeks early makes him premature, not his weight!203.184.41.226 (talk) 21:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premature 

message: I doubt very much that this one baby's death "did in time help spark interest in research on prematurity and led to innovations in the care of premature infants". Is there any evidence for that claim?Royalcourtier (talk) 08:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The statement you "doubt very much" is referenced. If you follow the citation and read the abstract of the article cited, you will see the following: "On August 7, 1963, Patrick Bouvier Kennedy, infant son of President and Mrs. John F. Kennedy, was born prematurely at 33 weeks gestation. Two days later, Patrick died of the most common complication of premature birth, respiratory distress syndrome (RDS). Occurring just 4 years after Avery and Mead first reported an association between RDS and surfactant deficiency, the death of Patrick Kennedy inspired aggressive research into the cause and treatment of RDS and served as a catalyst in the development of regionalized neonatal intensive care." - Nunh-huh 12:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significance of death 

message: We have to use our own judgment on what to edit otherwise Wikipedia would have full of undue weight material. If not, then under Trump, one could say (paraphrased) "Trump is insane <reference-Speech of Kim Jong Un>". There is no data that I can see that Congress sharply increased research funding and most medical research is government funded, with a little being from drug companies and small grants.
With that in mind, I propose yet another compromise wording because I do want an amicable resolution.
Kennedy's death ignited public awareness of neonatal intensive care <reference http://static.abbottnutrition.com/cms-prod/anhi.org/img/Nurse%20Currents%20NICU%20History%20June%202010.pdf (this is a corporate newsletter but it may be ok for now>. 
Vanguard10 (talk) 04:54, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we're at a dead end. In fact, I am warming up to you. If you seek 3rd opinion, that could be interpreted as canvassing. That could inject intense drama. I seek resolution with you. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:45, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that's not canvassing, and I've already asked for it. - Nunh-huh 05:49, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

text: I'm pretty sure sources that say Trump is sane are available. - Nunh-huh 05:38, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. Let me look. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I found an article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/09/22/is-trump-mentally-ill-or-is-america-psychiatrists-weigh-in/ Nobody says he is sane. So the Wikipedia article, should it read "Trump is the 45th President of the United States and insane (footnote: Kim Jong Un, also Senator Jack Reed in the Washington Post article "I think he's crazy".). Vanguard10 (talk) 05:43, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course somebody says he's sane. . Let's give this a rest until we hear a 3rd opinion. - Nunh-huh 05:48, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Is Fox News reliable source, ha ha ha ha. Yes, says Trump. No, says Hillary. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:58, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: compromise wording

message: Option 1 On August 7, 1963, Patrick Bouvier Kennedy, infant son of President and Mrs. John F. Kennedy, was born prematurely at 33 weeks gestation. Two days later, Patrick died of the most common complication of premature birth, respiratory distress syndrome (RDS). Occurring just 4 years after Avery and Mead1 first reported an association between RDS and surfactant deficiency, the death of Patrick Kennedy inspired aggressive research into the cause and treatment of RDS and served as a catalyst in the development of regionalized neonatal intensive care. Research efforts led to the first report in 1980 of exogenous surfactant replacement therapy (SRT) to treat RDS,2 and culminated with US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval in 1990 of the first exogenous surfactant drug
*has problems This is factually wrong. It was not approved in 1990. Maybe the Timothy Stevens is senile. It was approved in 1989. []. Also research efforts did not culminate as Timothy Stevens states. Lucinactant was approved in 2012.Vanguard10 (talk) 06:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary of possible wordings if there is drama and public comment sought

message: Kablammo (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for ''Neonatology'' article  

message: This article has many inaccuracies! Patrick was born and died a few years before President Kennedy died. He was not born after the president's death! Get you information corrected beforehand. 2600:6C56:7A08:31C:F10D:F991:EFF4:C29C (talk) 09:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates are wrong!