Talk:List of steampunk works

message: Idk but i think this might be a bit of steampunk, maybe diesel punk
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I think there should be a discussion of whether or not "Diesel Punk" is a subgenre as the term was coined in 2001.--72.73.65.219 (talk) 12:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Discussion" is frequently outside of wikipedia's scope (especially with the moderator of this article), as it verges on WP:OR. Instead we'd have to go back to external sources and compare those. Personally though I wouldn't see one as a descendant of the other - "diesel punk" goes back to the mid '80s at least (Mutoid Waste Company and others). Both could be seen as having emerged from a "punk" sensibility, with a mechanical bent, but they followed sibling paths, not ancestors. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crimson Skies or Crimson Skies High Road to Revenge 

message: The Moby games reference, which is used several times in this list, does not seem appropriate or notable enough to me.  The definition for steampunk which they use on that page is far too vague:
:Possibly the easiest definition of steampunk is: Modern technology as depicted using an earlier form of technology. Typically this includes a lot of cranks, gears and clockwork mechanisms, but might also feature basic electricity gathered from hydroelectric, geothermal or other sources.
With this as their definition, a great many games might be deemed appropriate with which we would disagree.  I would never hold myself up as an expert on video games---quite the contrary, in fact!---but, it seems to me that we need a better source than this if a game is going to be included in this list. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' (talk) 16:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't Moby user-generated? There is an "add content" button there. Seems like an unreliable source to me. I'm removing it for now (but not removing the entries that use it).Yobmod (talk) 13:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moby games 

message: I have added Doctor Steel again, I have no association with the band, I am not some street teamer or anyone attempting 'viral marketing'. But surely MTV is a reliable enough source of reference for Doctor Steel to be included? I am not bothered one way or the other (I don't like his music), but there seems to be a strange assumption that everyone who adds it is a viral marketer, even when they include a valid enough looking reference. If you can explain to me why MTV is not reliable enough then fair enough. magnius (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: MTV is fine for pop culture, imo. We use the same ref at the Steampunk article - i think it was removed here cos the link somehow got broken. Good job in fixing/replacing!Yobmod (talk) 08:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctor Steel 

message: I want to see if there is any consensus / opposition to me starting to convert the list into table format, with columns for title, author, year, notes, reference.
This makes it easier to see which are cited (I've now cited more than half, so the ref tags get unwieldy), and would make the list sortable by date and author, which would show both development of the genre, and which are important authors).
This would remove the setting sub-heading, which i don't think are that helpful. Could mention setting in the notes, but many i havn't read, so someone else would have to do that.
Also, once the table is in place, and that remai uncited i will start to tag, then remove. This will be a particular problem for the comics (I only read Xmen and Sandman) and TV (i don'T have one) so if editors are attached to particular titles being here, citation should start being added ASAP. The other sections Magnius and I already started citing.Yobmod (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lit subheadings and table

message: do you think deus ex 3 should be added  to games section? it looks VERY steampunk-ish.. --90.178.180.22 (talk) 18:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, mainly because it hasn't actually been released yet (not until next year).  Plus, there are no reliable sources that say it is steampunk, and I doubt that there ever will be magnius (talk) 18:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  deus ex 3 

message: I'm saddened to see the graphic novel series Les Cités Obscures has been removed from the list even though its own article fulfills the given condition of calling it steampunk. In the present time of the series's parallel world situated on a Counter-Earth, clothing, technology, language, and decorative design of most Obscure Cities is most obviously Regency, Victorian, and Edwardian in style, with obvious futuristic to bizarre technological twists typical of steampunk. --79.193.101.67 (talk) 01:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I tried editing the tables and they're obviously way too complex for me. Somebody knowledgeable please add The Other Log of Phileas Fogg (1973) by Philip José Farmer in the literature table, and Les Cités Obscures (publication begun in 1982) by François Schuiten and Benoît Peeters at Comics/graphic novels. The reference for Les Cités Obscures could be Cities of the Fantastic: A Contemporary Series of Verne-inspired Graphic Novels, Pulp Rack, no. 8, 2007, which in its very first paragraph describes it as "part steampunk, part world of marvels, part dystopia". Further down, this source might say that steampunk might not quite be an appropriate label for Les Cités Obscures, but the author only says so because of making a difference between unscientific "pulp" influenced by H. G. Wells on the one hand which she associates with modern steampunk, and Verne's scientifically feasible narratives on the other which she sees as the true ancestor of the series. I consider this difference as neglectable, as the Wikipedia definition names Wells as well as Vernes as the ancestors of the steampunk genre. --79.193.95.4 (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Les Cités Obscures'' 

message: Pre-Victorian and associated more with Newtonian alchemy than steam (though many devices are steam-driven), but it's certainly alternate history in which anachronistic mechanical devices have drastically changed the way people live.  Seems a good fit to me. 60.241.72.76 (talk) 11:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greg Keyes's ''Age of Unreason'' series 

message: I know every man and his dog is adding copious amounts of crud to both this and the Steampunk article: everything from Harry Potter to Brazil seems to be thrown up regularly. However I was wondering what the opinion might be about including an RPG sub-category within this list. I know it was via Castle Falkenstein that I first heard the term and I know things like Space 1889, For Fairy Queen and Country and possibly Cthulhu by Gaslight may even fit the bill. I know some of the more recent computer games incorporate aspects of steampunk. What do people think? ~ Brother William (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role Playing Games 

message: I think that this novel simply screams steampunk. A reference to an amazon product page is here. Please consider adding it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765323206  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.72.134.77 (talk) 22:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Affinity Bridge by George Mann 

message: I would like to add some kind of mention of the fairly new Steampunk centered record label/artists collective Gilded Age Records.
http://www.gildedagerecords.com
They currently have 29 bands featured, and all of them draw from some sort of 19th Century inspiration. Not all are specifically Steampunk, but most are. The only reference to them is in the same article that The Clockwork Quartet was featured in (from Bizarre Magazine). Not sure how to go about this, since I'm pretty sure they need more references. Regardless I thought it worth to point out to you members to see if you can find some way to include them in the music section.
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.205.88 (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gilded Age Records 

message: Like hell The Golden Compass is steampunk. I'm going to remove that because there is nothing "steampunk" about zeppelins, magic stuff, or divine things. 98.196.84.105 (talk) 04:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. If you read the books, it is clear that Lyra's world is in an alternative universe which can be reached from ours. If the other two books had been filmed it would have become clear that at least four universes were involved: Lyra's, ours, the Wheelers' one and the universe of Cittàgazze. While Lyra's world contains many steam punk elements the others do not. On balance I think that The Golden Compass should be removed from the list. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Compass? Really? 

message: Wouldn't Boilerplate be an excellent example of steampunk?  
The website, http://www.bigredhair.com/boilerplate/  
graphic novel, http://www.amazon.com/Heartbreakers-Meet-Boilerplate-Anina-Bennett/dp/1932382860/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2 
upcoming book, http://www.amazon.com/Boilerplate-Historys-Mechanical-Paul-Guinan/dp/0810989506/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djkmann (talk • contribs) 20:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Boilerplate? 

message: New examples have been added to the literature table, but they are not in alphabetical order.  I attempted to fix this, but clearly did not get the formatting correct, so I abandoned my efforts.  The alphabetization needs to be fixed for consistency.  And, in future, new examples should be brought to the talk page, rather than simply stuck into the table.  Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New entries in literature 

message: Would the Myst series be an appropriate addition under the video game category? There's a lot of steam-/clockpunkish tech throughout, though in a lighter vein than a lot of steampunk.  --Jay (Histrion) (talk • contribs) 19:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myst? 

message: Sorry for saving a bunch of tiny edits instead of doing one large edit. (I hate when people do that.)  But I removed a bunch of sources, that were either blogs or did not support what they were supposed to be referencing.  APL (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources` 

message: I'm not sure, but would Thomas Pynchon's novel Against the Day be considered steampunk? It takes place from the 1890's to the 1920's, but contains some anachronistic and fantasy elements. If anyone else has read it, I'm thinking mainly of the Chums of Chance scenes here, but I don't know if it truly qualifies as "steampunk" according to whatever definition you're using here. I'm new at this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.193.55.44 (talk) 23:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for add 

message: I just reverted several additions to the film section made on November 25 by Dumarestuk.  No explanation was offered for these additions, and no references were provided indicating that they are relevant.  This should be discussed before the titles are reinserted. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 19:30, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent additions to film 

message: Is Sherlock Holmes truly a steampunk film?  Nowhere in the WP article does it say so.  The io9 article that is used to reference its place in this article mentions the word "steampunk" several times, but seems to use it as equivalent to Victorian, with all its talk about men wearing tweed and the beautiful London settings.  But nothing about steam machines or interesting technology.  Judging by this article, there seems to be nothing steampunk about this movie, despite the overuse of the word. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 19:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether it "truly is" steampunk is an irrelevance. That would be a subjective judgement (there's no objective standard) and clearly falls foul of WP:OR. What we need instead is an indication that it has been perceived as steampunk by some credible external source. As the question is the crossover between a film and a genre, some comment from either of these directions is of relevance. As the long-included reference (amongst many other possibles) already states at length, this film has been widely embraced by the steampunks as being "a steampunk film". The film community has generally agreed too, even though there's also a well-reported quote from the producer that he didn't intend it to be steampunk. Despite that, if one significant group can be reliably sourced to describe the film as steampunk, then it's steampunk for our purposes. I shouldn't have to point out that WP is neither WP:RS, nor the non-existence of something on WP a reliable disproof of it. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't have thought so, but I suppose Dr M's moronic invention at the end could be considered a sort of victorian retro-future scifi, which is apparently close enough nowadays. APL (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sherlock Holmes (2009 film)]] 

message: This movie has a load of steampunk elements to it, mainly the flying ships and all. I would think about adding that one in here  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.159.0 (talk) 16:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, then just add it, don't talk about it.  I added it yesterday after being rather surprised it wasn't there.  The quality of the movie is a little iffy (gotta like the outfits though), but it's solidly steampunk style. Nerfer (talk) 20:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Three Musketeers (2011 film)]] 

message: While there was a source provided for this, steampunk was only mentioned in a passing reference to "steampunk aircraft battles" as opposed to a clear assignment of genre, placing the film within the history of steampunk, or something else significant. Calling the flying warships "steampunk" is itself debatable, as they appear based more on 30s/40s aircraft and space opera than on anything roughly Victorian. McCarthy's book on Miyazaki places Laputa:Castle in the Sky in the tradition of Verne and Wells, but says nothing of the sort about Nausicaä, instead connecting it with Japanese and Greek folktales/mythology and Fast's Spartacus. Other sources I've looked at generally say nothing about Nausicaä and steampunk, or if they do, are blogs making other passing references. Ergative rlt (talk) 03:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nausicaä 

message: What about "Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura"? I think that`s typical steampunk computer game. 62.89.119.252 (talk) 20:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arcanum 

message: This movie, which is slated to be released on 16 December 2011, is a sequel to the Sherlock Holmes (2009 film), which made it to this list. Will this film also be considered a Steampunk work? --Saukkomies talk  14:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hard to say, since no one's seen it yet, but if they follow in the same vein as the previous one then it's likely. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 21:40, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows]]

message: This movie came out in 2007, and was the first movie I thought about when reading what Steampunk was. I didn't want to just add it without it being discussed first, though.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.183.203 (talk) 09:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Perfect Creature]] 

message: Should we perhaps separate out a section of "In literature" to fiction and nonfiction?  Nonfiction being meta works about steampunk, how-tos and the like.  Such as Thomas Willeford's Gears, Gadgets and Gizmos? http://www.amazon.com/Steampunk-Gear-Gadgets-Gizmos-Artifacts/dp/0071762361  The Art of Steampunk, the Steampunk Bible, 1000 steampunk creations, etc. etc. etc. Centerone (talk) 05:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  In literature: fiction & nonfiction?  

message: If someone can point me toward some evidence that the death metal band Talanas has taken up anything resembling a Steampunk aesthetic, I'd be ver interested, otherwise I don't see how they fit this list at all. Blackfyr (talk) 04:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talanas? 

message: I've expanded the "in music" section to include mainstream bands that have embraced the steampunk aesthetic in a video or concept album, since this is happening with increasing frequency. (And since the Wiki gods have deemed that "steampunk music" doesn't exist as a category...) I also changed the entry for Primus (questionable) to Les Claypool (who most definitely does embrace the aesthetic). --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: QUESTION: I know electro-swing bands like Parov Stelar and Caravan Palace are popular in steampunk circles. The goth swing band Lee Presson and the Nails is also quite popular on the US West Coast and has been headlining steampunk events in recent years. Should they be added to this category? --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 19:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

text: This article is a list of works, not artists. - tSR - Nth Man (talk) 03:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  in music 

message: Maximilianklein (talk) 23:53, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: WorldCat Genres

message: I think it is safe to assume that FFIX was very steampunk-ish. For example, Hilda Garde airships all used steam power to fly. I guess many other irrelevant machines used steam. Also, the whole game, to me, felt like a Steampunk work. Matter of opinion?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.88.115.77 (talk) 10:14, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy IX? 

message: According to Cheryl Morgan it seems that The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers belongs to the list: 12 Classic Steampunk Books Nikolas Ojala (talk) 02:16, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering it's a seminal steampunk work, I'm rather surprised it got missed. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 05:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Anubis Gates 

message: 1. Book - Randall Garrett's Lord Darcy novel and short stories (with 2 other novels written by Michael Kurland.)  First written in 1964, this series encompasses a version of the British Isles where magic works according to specific rules. Science hasn't advanced much, and the tech is either magical, or steam-powered, with revolvers being the highest form of gun.  Lord Darcy is an investigator assisted by a magician, who uses forensic spells.  The series is basically a magical version of Sherlock Holmes, and has a definite steampunk/Victorian vibe.  The dates of that alternate earth correspond to the publishing dates, but as I said, technology is of the steam era. 
 
2. Game - City of Steam: Arkadia www.cityofsteam.com As you can tell from the name, this free-to-play MMORPG is pure steampunk - from enemies like clockroaches and Mechanthrope Medusas, to steam-powered motorcycle mounts.
3. Movies - Tai-Chi Hero, Tai-Chi Zero, and a third one to be announced.  If you look at the posters of the two released films, they are full of clockwork gears.  Part of the plot involves a giant steam-powered railroad track-laying machine.
24.253.192.189 (talk) 01:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw Tai-Chi Zero listed over at TV Tropes, and judging from the description and visuals of the poster, I agree it's very steampunk. It seems to be like "Steampunk meets Kung Fu Hustle". --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 Items: Book, Game, and Movie series 

message: I'm saddened to see that Les Cités obscures is still not added to the graphic novel section. It's referred to as steampunk by its own article and outside sources. The article even once had an own section discussing its specific steampunk elements which was removed, obviously because somebody considered the series to be too 'highbrow' and sophisticated to be something as 'pulpish' as steampunk.
This whole thing is even more absurd when I see other items especially in the films section that clearly don't belong here because they're actually dieselpunk. Main culprits would be The City of Lost Children (1994; at least its main inspiration, Brazil, is not there even though stupid people keep calling it "steampunk", similar to another dieselpunk film thankfully absent here, Dark City) and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (the article to Sky Captain even makes clear that it's dieselpunk, not steampunk). The Golden Compass is a bit of an iffy topic. On the one hand, the era it's set in or most alludes to (circa 1920s-1930s) seems to be closer to dieselpunk. On the other hand, the conceptual artist on that film was François Schuiten himself (see  on that), and he made dead sure to make it look like an adaptation of his 1988 Cites obscures album La route d'Armilia that's clearly more steampunk than the film that's closer to dieselpunk. The Prestige, at first glance, may appear a similar hybrid by taking place in the steampunk era but utilizing cinematographic film noir elements more typical of dieselpunk, but the setting eventually pretty solidly makes it steampunk.
Anyways, for a more in-depth discussion of strict definitions vs. "But many well-meaning idiots call it that!", see Talk:Brazil_(1985_film)#Steampunk. Dieselpunk is not a "sub-genre" of steampunk or vice versa. Both are simply two different sub-genres at the same level within the retro-futurism and/or alternate history genre. Steampunk and dieselpunk are sitting next to each other on the same hierarchical level within the retro-futurism/alternate history category, not one of the two "within" the other. Neither is any of the two really a cyberpunk "derivative" when it comes to their origins rather than their names.
Historically, the term cyberpunk was first back in the 80s, referring mostly to bleak, either dystopian and/or post-apocalyptic sci-fi (often with virtual reality and cyberspace themes), where "punk" at first referred to specific hacker and/or rebel gangs within these settings, and partly to how they were, in a "hacking" fashion, using technology of our time that had been crippled by the apocalypse. Then came steampunk pretty much in the 90s to retroactively and originally tongue-in-cheek refer to a genre that had been developing without a name already since the 50s or 60s (long before cyberpunk!) with nostalgic Technicolor epics such as George Pal's The Time Machine (1960), or novels such as Titus Alone (1959) and Queen Victoria's Bomb (1967), that nostalgically referred to Victorian and/or Edwardian settings with anachronistic, mostly futuristic technology and almost entirely lacked the dark, dystopian tone of cyberpunk as well as lots of its political overtones (there are notable exceptions when it comes to politics, though).
The only real connection to the cyberpunk genre was that technology played a big part in both genres (as it does in all sci-fi), with greater similarity between steampunk and post-apocalyptic cyberpunk because in both genres, said technology appeared anachronistic and/or outdated, either from the audience's POV or within the setting. However, the specific mix of anachronisms, nostalgia, generally more light-hearted tone, and retro-futurism pretty much from the beginning placed steampunk squarely in a genre wholly different from most cyberpunk, and that was and is within the retro-futuristic/alternate history genre. At the end of the day, the "punk" in steampunk refers simply to the technological anachronisms, not to particularly edgy and violent groups of lawbreakers as it did and does in cyberpunk.
And it was not before the early 2000s that the term dieselpunk emerged as a label for a genre definitely distinct from steampunk. Whereas steampunk specifically refers to futuristic/sci-fi themes within a Victorian or Edwardian, sometimes Regency setting (i. e. it references pretty much the so-called Long 19th Century covering roughly the period 1790s-1914), dieselpunk, recently also known as decodence for art deco, specifically references the era circa 1920s-1950s. Whereas steampunk began to develop roughly between the 50s-70s, dieselpunk as a nostalgic retro-futuristic genre was pretty much kickstarted in the 80s, particularly by the 1982 start of the Rocketeer comic and the release of Brazil in 1985. In other words, dieselpunk was around before even the label steampunk was, much less the label dieselpunk, which might have helped the current confusion that steampunk would be "anything dark with rusty metal in it" or "anything dark and retro-futuristic". Steampunk references (Long) 19th century art and design movements, such as art noveau, Fin de siècle, symbolism (arts), historicism (art), neoclassical architecture, Baroque Revival architecture, Scientific romance, Gothic fiction and Gothic Revival architecture, whereas dieselpunk references (early to mid-)20th century art and design movements, such as German expressionism, film noir, art deco, Streamline Moderne, Bauhaus, Brutalist architecture, Fascist architecture, and Stalinist architecture. People seem to keep confusing steampunk and dieselpunk just like they keep confusing floral and organic art noveau with urban, Streamline Modern-type art deco. With its German expressionism and film noir influences, dieselpunk aka decodence has always been generally darker in visuals and partly also in themes than overall steampunk, but even dieselpunk is far from being as dark, edgy, and (post-)apocalpytic as cyberpunk.
Further entries in the dieselpunk aka decodence genre that were heavily influenced by the two seeds of Rocketeer (1982) and Brazil (1985) include maybe the two Burton Batmans (1989 and 1992), definitely the 1991 film adaptation of Rocketeer, The City of Lost Children (1994), maybe The Hudsucker proxy (1994, it's obviously set in a gargantuan art deco/film noir/screwball comedy parallel world situated somewhere between the 1930s and the 1950s, with minor anachronistic references not because of being too futuristic for the era, but because some things are more like the 30s and others more like the 50s, but they never truly existed in parallel IRL as they do in the movie), definitely Dark City (1998) and Crimson Gate (c. 1998), partly at least Batman begins (2005), definitely Sky Captain (2004), the 2007 Argentinian film La Antena, and maybe even the 2013 adaptation of The Great Gatsby for its pulpish mix of nostalgia with modern cinematic style and music. The broadest definition of the dieselpunk genre may even include the animated Disney Afternoon series Tailspin (1990-1991) that also, while it's never outright mentioned, takes place in the late 30s while sometimes taking minor liberties with small anachronisms. As said, The Golden Compass (2007) is a special case for being pretty much a steampunk-dieselpunk hybrid for its connection to Les Cités obscures.
The idea behind both steampunk and dieselpunk is definitely the same and the two genres definitely share more similarities with each other (namely the themes of technological anachronisms, nostalgia, generally more light-hearted tone than cyberpunk, all within a retro-futuristic and/or alternate history setting) than any of them does with cyberpunk, but they are clearly two different concepts in what eras they specifically reference in contemporary everday design, architecture, technology, wardrobe fashions, language, art movements, lighting, editing, production design, etc.
A third relative on the same hierarchical level as steampunk and dieselpunk is clockpunk, referencing most eras prior to the Long 19th Century and defined by whether the emphasis is more on sci-fi, anachronistic technology, and/or alternate history rather than fantasy and the means (not necessarily the ends!) of technology are not too futuristic (which is why e. g. Stargate is not clockpunk). A notable early example of clockpunk would be Lest Darkness Fall (1939).
Phew! After this long educational rant, I should propose at least one more candidate for this steampunk list, and that's George Pal's 1960 adaptation of Wells's The Time Machine. I know the book is not steampunk because it lacks the nostalgic element (at the time, it was only futurist, not retro-futurist), but the film definitely is by its nostalgic references to the Victorian age. --87.180.197.207 (talk) 06:55, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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message: Does Elliot's Cold Fire series merit inclusion on this list?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.224.100 (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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message: not to be nit-picky and sorry if this has already been covered but Porco Rosso is also not really in the steampunk genre and is definitely more dieselpunk I'd say  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GilGameEsh1 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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message: Rose of Versailles is a flat-out historical revolutionary France series, and Space Battleship Yamato is a SF with some WW2 technology. Neither of these two should be on the list and I'd say there's a number of others that are questionable, like Snowpiercer. ZeroSD (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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