Talk:Jarhead (film)

message: The plot summary added in this edit is a presumed copyright violation, from the movie's official website (site uses Flash - click "Story"). I've removed it. ←Hob 07:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Jarhead' (the self-imposed moniker of the Marines) follows "Swoff" (Jake Gyllenhaal), a third-generation enlistee, from a sobering stint in boot camp to active duty, sporting a sniper's rifle and a hundred-pound ruck on his back through Middle Eastern deserts with no cover from intolerable heat or from Iraqi soldiers. Swoff and his fellow Marines sustain themselves with sardonic humanity and wicked comedy on blazing desert fields in a country they don't understand against an enemy they can't see for a cause they don't fully fathom. 
It seems more accurate than "centers around his pre-Gulf War experiences" - the previews make it seem like it's more about military than civilian life. Uncle Ed 17:17, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: first talk

message: Does anyone know the name of the hip-hop song playing during the preview of the film?--67.184.163.248 22:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preview? 

message: :Tagline: Welcome To The Suck 
:The film co-stars Peter Sarsgaard, and Oscar-winning actors Chris Cooper and Jamie Foxx.
:This is the third film by Academy Award-winning director Sam Mendes, whose previous two films were American Beauty and Road to Perdition.  
I cut the above, because it doesn't tell you anything about the movie. Sure, it's nice that 2 of the actors won oscars and that it's the director's third film - but this reads more like a press release than an encyclopedia article. 
Let's send one of our writers to watch the film and THEN write about it. Uncle Ed 17:05, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox duplication

message: Does anyone want to start work on a synopsis of the film here?  It'll be a group project.  Everyone join in with the bits you remember.  Later we'll cut it down to a decent encyclopedic length and then edit.
JustADuck 23:55, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis? 

message: The Plot section of this article is nothing but a damn review, it needs to be edited immedietely!
Seriously, the section breaks Wikipedias rules so bad it's not funny, shame on the original author!
Is it really appropriate to have a list of guns shown in the movie? If you really wanted to know what sort of guns the army had in the first gulf war, why dont they just go to their page via the links? Great flick though!
:I'm going to remove the list of weapons, because it doesn't really fit. This page is about the movie, not the props. Sum0 19:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the bloody hell? 

message: This film is an embarrasment to the U.S.M.C, the U.S.A and to the entertainment establishment. They should be ashamed of themselves for producing a true piece of garbage like this. What a load of crap! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bonnee1 (talk • contribs) . moved here from article -- Zondor 05:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good that this was removed from the article, but this isn't a discussion page for the movie; it's a discussion page for the article. It shouldn't be here at all. 68.9.205.10 20:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed. The user's opinion on the film has no place here at all. I'd delete it myself, but I'm unsure on the Wikipedia protocol on this sort of thing. It's hardly neutral, anyway! Ackatsis 12:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: opinion

message: Most of the trivia appear also in the IMDB entry. I don't think this information needs to be duplicated. The section should be pruned. gbrandt 07:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am of the opinion that trivia is not encyclopedic, and that the triva section of just about everything should be removed. Your thoughts? Seaphoto 03:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia Dupes

message: The article contains the claim: "The videogame Metroid makes a verbal cameo in the movie." This, to me, appears to stretch credibility. Can a videogame make a cameo? (No, it would be part of the mise-en-scene). And since videogames cannot talk, I have a horrible suspicion that by "making a verbal cameo" the contributor means "Metroid is mentioned by someone". 
So ... someone mentions a videogame in the course of this movie. Is this worth saying at all, never mind entering on wikipedia, never mind actually reading? I'm not going to delete it, in case my interpretation is wrong, but would someone kindly explain if I've got it wrong? Garrick92 10:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Cameo"

message: did anyone notice no name tags on the bdu's? that is why most military films suck. Keltik31 21:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bdunbar is correct.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  uniforms 

message: Anyone else think we should have a character list like on the Platoon (film) article?Capt Jim 07:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters List 

message: From the PLOT:
Fowler is seen to be spending time with his girlfriend at a bar...
Yet, under CHARACTERS:
...and after the war he is shown in a bar with what appears to be a prostitute of Asian descent.
- 75.4.200.230 09:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paradox 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Jarhead.jpg

message: When I first saw this movie, I called BS on the video part.  I first heard that story in Germany in the late 1980's.  I heard it in 1991 in Saudi Arabia.  In both cases, it happened to someone in the "next unit over."  Since those experiences don't count, here is what Snopes has to say about Video Bye-Bye, with the book Jarhead as a source.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dear John video 

message: You know, some of the guys in the movie are very introverted. Swofford's spotter Troy and the guy Fergus who accidentally set fire during Swofford's Christmas Eve watch are both very introverted. I thought it was very interesting that they did contribute to the Marines in their own ways. Troy actually kept Fowler in line. learnportuguese 20:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: character personalities

message: The plot section keeps being expanded and having added endless irrelevant minutia, by anon ips. I understand that this being a Mendes movie, it probably has some sort of cult following, but nevertheless, I think it should be pruned. --W2bh (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: I also have doubts of the relevance of the extensive and precisely detailed characters section. --W2bh (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot section 

message: I would like to know if the shooting accident of an private, shown in the recruit training scene is based on a real fact.
Or is it one of those USMC legends? Did they really use 'real bullets' for the training, like shown in this movie?
Did it really happen in Anthony Swoffords unit? Maybe someone knows more about it. Thx for your response.
84.159.49.59 (talk) 10:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shooting Accident 

message: the article says:
"The mood is disturbed when a disheveled Vietnam veteran, possibly suffering from the memories of the conflict, jumps into their bus, and congratulates them all"
It was actually his Dad - he calls Swoff 'son' when he calls the others 'Marine'.  Also the flashback early of 'conversations with Dad' backs this up.   I haven't changed the article as someone else might want to verify this.   PseudoEdit (yak) (track) 19:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It was his Dad! 

message: "a cruel joke played on him by the senior Marines. This involves branding onto him the initials of the United States Marine Corps, USMC, with a hot iron. This is a popular tattoo amongst Marines. He faints upon sight of the iron. After regaining consciousness, he is greeted coolly by Troy (Peter Sarsgaard), who says to him, "Welcome to the Suck.""
: This misses out the critical point that, when he woke up, he realised that he hadn't been branded at all (with Troy explaining that the iron was cold, and if you want a brand, you have to earn it).  Or did I misinterpret that scene? Wardog (talk) 14:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Branding 

message: The tagline "Welcome to the suck" is probably a reference to Full Metal Jacket, taglined "Welcome to Vietnam where the wind doesn't blow, it sucks", among numerous other FMJ referencesД narchistPig (talk) 03:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  suck 

message: Im suprised there isnt a section about the clear references to the borrowed dialogue and scenes in Jarhead. Its been a while since I've seen Jarhead but I remember there were quite a few. Bortson (talk) 18:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to Full Metal Jacket movie 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: You may be interested in the discussion of an article on a sequel at Draft:Jarhead: Law of Return. Thanks. --2604:2000:E010:1100:71FC:6C85:2112:8826 (talk) 07:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related draft page 

message: If the latter, should they be here? - Immigrant laborer (talk) 01:23, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are the "sequels" actually sequels or just unrelated films where someone put the word "Jarhead" in the title?