Talk:Marrakesh

message: Can somebody please tell me the Wikipedia stance on British/American spellings?  The latest edit here has changed Neighbourhoods to Neighborhoods.  Not wanting to be petty, I haven't changed it back.  03/09/2006, Tomkeene
:If the subject of the article has a natural affinity to one variety or the other, use that one. (ie write about an American citizen or city or battleship etc in American English). Otherwise, stick to the variety used by the first major contributor. Often, though I try to replace the word with a spelling-neutral one like district or quarter. ROGER TALK 08:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: Marrakech seems to have hosted a number of international meetings.  Any particular reason?  It would also be nice to have general information about the local economy. -- Beland (talk) 05:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Economy

message: Was the city founded in 1062 or 1070? Hexmaster (talk) 10:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Coming to this many years later but I just noticed that the article says the city was founded in 1062, however the more commonly cited date is 1070. Historical sources apparently cite a variety of dates across a few decades, but Deverdun's volume on the city's history concludes that 1070 is the more convincing date and many authors seem to endorse that conclusion. Still, both dates occur in sources so might as well mention both. Robert Prazeres (talk) 03:17, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Founding?

message: The end of the history section just fizzles out and reads like an advertisement. Topics that need to be covered include World War II and Independence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.229.244.146 (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: OK, so I just revamped the history section.  It tapers off horribly at the end - the 20th C. city certainly needs more work.  But I've pooped myself out for the moment and need a break. I still have to paste in the refs, but besides being momentarily tired, before I do so, I'd like to canvass opinion whether this section should be spinned off into its own article.  Looking at it now, it's kinda large for a city article, and I wonder if it should perhaps be moved to a "History of Marrakesh" article?  I am not sure how much to retain here - perhaps reverting back to the older smaller history, or taking a new summary from this one? Or just leave it as it is for now? (+ refs).  Walrasiad (talk) 23:06, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History spinoff? 

message: The article says "The probable origin of the name is from the Berber (Amazigh) words mur (n) akush . . . which means "Land of God". The word mur is used now in Berber mostly in the feminine form tamurt."  But of the two words, mur and akush, which means 'land' and which means 'God'?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linguistatlunch (talk • contribs) 11:43, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Marrakesh]] 

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message: There is a need for creating another article about the Medina of Marrakesh which is now a world heritage site.
It is strange that there is such an article in other languages and not in English wikipedia. 17:54, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another article for Medina of Marrakesh 

message: The "landmarks" and "museums" sections are virtually duplicated at the Landmarks of Marrakesh page, which partly undermines the usefulness of that second page since most of the content is already here. This creates at least a partial content fork (WP:CONTENTFORK), which among other consequences makes it harder to keep information consistent across several pages, because any fixes or improvements needed on one page may need to be applied to the other page(s) too -- while nonetheless sorting through minor differences (as I recently had to do to fix some mistakes about the Royal Palace). Since this is a general page about the city and since these sections take up quite a bit of space here, I'd like to suggest that they be condensed to short summaries. For example, I'd recommend condensing the "Mosques" section to just one or two paragraphs which link to the relevant main pages, instead of having multiple subsections about individual monuments. The same can be done for "Palaces and riads", "Tombs", and "Museums". Future details can be added to Landmarks of Marrakesh instead, or to the relevant main pages of individual monuments, etc.</br>
Since this would be a significant change, I wanted to see if other editors agree with this? R Prazeres (talk) 08:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is a good idea. This article is currently a bit long (~64kb readable prose size), so it would benefit from some condensing. WeirdMatter (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I finally have time to come back to this so I'll start doing some of that now. R Prazeres (talk) 18:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Condense/summarize "landmarks" sections? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure)  Garnarblarnar (talk) 00:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Marrakesh →  – Marrakech gives 248 million search results on google whilst Marrakesh gives just 21.6 million. The common name seems to be Marrakech, what do you think? Jishiboka1 (talk) 02:37, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes it is. "Marrakesh" is the English spelling, "Marrakech" is the French spelling (as explained e.g. here). It is true some English sources choose to use French spelling, but those same sources also tend to Frenchify/nativize all locational spellings, e.g. sources which spell "Marrakech" instead of "Marrakesh" will also spell "Fès" instead of "Fez".  So you will either find Marrakesh-Fez pairings or Marrakech-Fès pairings, but you won't likely find Marrakech-Fez pairings.  As for ngrams being tied, well, I reported that ten years ago (oh dear, it's been that long?) Walrasiad (talk) 22:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 31 March 2022 

message: There's been an IP user going around deleting the Amazigh/Berber names in Moroccan city articles, including this one. The edit summaries often say "unsourced", but given that the Arabic names are not sourced either this looks like simply a POV push, along with other unexplained changes, and I'm reverting the edits. Present-day native names are not something that, in my opinion, and judging by many other articles, strictly require a source. They're generally easy to verify. As the Amazigh languages are both native and official languages in Morocco, we shouldn't be deleting those names frivolously.
That said, however, Amazigh names are hard to verify for those of us who don't speak any Amazigh language and don't write Tifinagh, and there are multiple Moroccan city articles whose English and French versions provide different renditions of the Amazigh name, including Marrakesh (this article gives ⴰⵎⵓⵔⴰⴽⵓⵛ while the French article gives ⵎⵕⵕⴰⴽⵛ; compare also the English and French versions of Rabat, Salé, Meknes, etc). There are multiple Amazigh languages/dialects in Morocco, but it would be ideal to know which spelling is used officially, or at least make sure that the given spelling is accurate for the most relevant local dialect.
So in short: are there any editors literate in Tifinagh who could assist in checking these names? Or is there an independent source (e.g. government website) that we can consult for the official or reliable rendition of the names?
This request is relevant to other articles, but I figured I would start here first since this article gets the most visitors. R Prazeres (talk) 18:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazigh names need double-checking 

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message: Please include details of the recent earthquake in Marakesh  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk) 09:26, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural Disaster 

message: Restating the general content question here for other editors: what preferences do you have for the image(s) in the infobox? A single-image montage (this)? A multiple-image template (e.g. in this version)? Or something else? See discussion above for context if needed, but any suggestions are welcome regardless. R Prazeres (talk) 23:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally like the multiple-image template for the sake of convenience (cities change over time!!) and general aesthetic. Having lived in the city for a decent amount, I think that it does a better job representing the city than Marrakech montage2.png on Commons. NAADAAN (talk) 17:24, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Question for all editors