Talk:Colonisation of Africa

message: Half of the article is the stuff that 172 pasted everywhere
And that "stuff" pertains to the "colonization of Africa". 
172
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Maybe we could merge all the article you edited in just one ;).
I'm not historian do you feel to write something in Algerian War of Independence it's a major lack in Wikipedia.
Ericd
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A succint page on colonization of Africa is essential. Ericd’s that a separate article on the Algerian War of Independence is needed as well.
172: Go to my user page. There’s a surprise there.
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Including Madeira as a colony is absurd, it had no previous indeginous population, present day population is of european descent and it is an autonumous region of Portugal
:It's often counted as part of Africa, and it was colonised.  Including it make clear sense. Warofdreams talk 01:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: Why is the American spelling of colonization used? Most English-speaking countries in Africa use commonwealth English, so why American?? Aaker 14:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed all instances of "z" to "s", except in the interwiki links. – Black Falcon (Talk) 16:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: I made a failed attempt to create an edit notice using the  template.  Sorry about the mistake, but this notice is now moved to the top of the article.  Can an admin please create this edit notice?  --Fama Clamosa (talk) 18:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . JohnCD (talk) 20:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! --Fama Clamosa (talk) 20:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: Does anyone else think that the map under "The Scramble for Africa" on the right, should be replaced with this larger one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GameSlayerGS (talk • contribs) 14:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
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message: Way too much of this article Is based on the opinion of one person, Vincent Khapoya, a modern day person. Is Khapoya widely acknowledged as 'the Einstein of the history of the colonization of Africa?" It seems to me that since so many assertions of fact made in the article are based on the views of this person, there should be a section vetting his credibility as a widely recognized and respected authority. Without it, It seems less an encyclopedic article on the colonization of Africa than a presentation of the views of Vincent Khapoya, which may be biased. This strikes me as odd and typical of the sort of things that make people consider Wikipedia at best a good starting point for seeking info about something but nothing you could ever 'take to the bank' without external verification.
:Totally agree, there are more than enough relevant historians so that we can have multiple points of view and sources for this article, which is an important one.
:-- Edmond8674   — Preceding undated comment added 00:03, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vincent Khapoya 

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message: The negatives impact on colonialism in Africa 41.222.180.100 (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative effect of colonialism in Africa with examples 

message: Phoenicians are mentioned, but they are from Asia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurnerValley (talk • contribs) 04:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest European Colony? 

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message: Pretty simple contention here - I'm not sure the totality of subject material covered under this article should be placed in the same article, at least not without much further clarification. There are a few main contentions motivating this:
* The unexpected & unexplained decision to center this article on external "colonisation"
* The unclear bounds & definitions to delineate what, exactly qualifies as "colonisation" under the tenants of the article.
* The clearly uneven distribution of efforts & energies between discussing different topics.
The article, all in all, comes across entirely incohesive, unified only by a vague sense that all its subject matter may be described with the same term, without consideration for how said term is employed differently in each topic. Put differently, this article has little discussion on how topics relate, calling into question whether topics are better placed on dedicated articles that already exist.
Part of this comes down to the mere ambiguity of words, especially those such as "colonisation". Simply put, it does not seem to me that this term has any consistent 'meaning', nor is one clearly given, articulated, maintained, or justified by the article. While we obviously refer to migration of human populations to a region in order to exploit resources (for subsistence) as "colonisation" in the literal sense, we lack an article on "Colonisation of Europe" because we clearly draw some mental difference between mere migration to a region in a pre-historic or at least pre-modern sense (think, the movement of human populations into Europe, the spread of Near Eastern farmers and their offspring across Europe) and the Imperial efforts driven by (mostly) European states (say, the events from the early-modern era onwards). 
For that matter, I also would advocate excluding Medieval expansion into the African continent by Arabs/Muslims from "Colonisation" for the same reason we typically do not refer to the unification of Arabia or conquest of Persia as "Colonisation", or the Ottoman annexation of Anatolia, or even the Crusades as such. I reckon the article should have its contents divided between:
* (Prehistoric) Migrations Within and Into Africa (including such topics as Back To Africa migrations, Inter-African Migrations (i.e. Bantu Expansion)
* Imperialism in Africa (including such topics as Portuguese activity on the Swahili Coast, the Zimbabwe Plateau, Colonization of the Guanches peoples, all the way to the Scramble for Africa and potentially the "Neo-Colonialism" that people like to discuss. Under the latter we may include such topics as Arab or Roman conquests into Africa, though at that point I personally would question why we should then exclude imperialism executed by African-rooted Empires as well (Mali, Songhai, Luba, Ethiopia, &.c.), at which point the article simply becomes one about empires in Africa.
The place of "settler-colonies" (ie: founding cities by populations who move to an area in order to gain some edge from its resources, usually location & trade) within this schema is unclear here, but note that we already have such an article, "Colonies in antiquity", for discussing many such instances in antiquity. One such article may be made for a broader set of use-cases, which could then also encompass Swahili settler-colonies in places like Madagascar, and various "colony" communities founded by traders in / from West African regions (ie: "Tukrir" settlements in East/Central Africa, historic Hausa communities without Hausaland)...
"Colonisation of Africa" may then be made into a Disambiguation to refer to any of these potential uses of the term.
HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 17:25, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems a decent analysis. The article is very undeveloped, likely a function of the ambiguities you identify. If you have sources that could help elucidate these distinctions and conceptual frameworks, that would greatly help the article. I wouldn't split it into a disambiguation though, at least not before the context here is developed enough that a split is clear from the existing content. CMD (talk) 03:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

text: I agree that a precise definition of "colonisation" must be selected at the outset. The article would demand heavy modification once this necessary first step is accomplished. Chino-Catane (talk) 12:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear Use of "Colonisation" 

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"...and potentially the Malays as it is pertaining to distinguishing between immigration and settler colonialism..."
Is there any evidence that Malays established colonies in Africa? If they simply migrated to Africa freely, this does not need to be mentioned in the lead section of an article concerning the colonisation of Africa. Chino-Catane (talk) 11:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  lead section