Talk:GRU (Russian Federation)

message: Could someone rewrite the following sentence:
During its history, the GRU was always a subordinate to the NKVD, its successors (KGB, etc.), the GRU has at different times, made very spectacular recruits of foreign agents, and was the first Soviet intelligence service, to exploit the lax security of western companies, and began to steal S&T (Science and technology) though this later became a domain controlled by KGB, under line x, later Directorate T.
It's a long, run-on sentence and I can't make heads nor tails of it. Abigail 16:25, May 14, 2004 (UTC)
: how's this:
::During the entire period it operated, GRU was always subordinate to the NKVD and its successors (KGB, etc.).  The GRU was particularly successful in recruiting foreign agents, and was the first Soviet intelligence service to exploit the lax security of western companies.  GRU agents pioneered espionage targeted at gaining science and technology (S&T) material.  This function later fell to the KGB, under its "line x" (later Directorate T).
: -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 01:17, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite sentence

message: Any objection to an article rename to the full name? To be more consistent with other Russian articles. -Joseph 04:24, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)
:The renaming is wrong. The abbreviation GRU is well known, the full name is not so. — Monedula 20:59, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Article rename

message: Was the symbol of the GRU spetsnaz later adapted into Batman's symbol? The two are pretty much identical. I scanned through Batman's article, and nothing of the sort was listed under "Costume."
:Your title for this section made me laugh. First I thought they had nicked the Batman logo, but it's the other way around. The spanish version of this article has a similar logo. AFAIK, this logo is the real one. I think its supposed to represent a bird overlooking the world, not a bat.--81.105.251.160 22:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But yeah my first impression of seeing that symbol was like: BATMAN. Lol, guess those of us living in the West have a pretty different POV on that bat-looking symbol. :P 24.80.236.14 (talk) 23:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Holy Similarities Batman!

message: The emblem pictured on this page is NOT that of GRU.  Along the bottom is does in fact say, in Russian, "Military intelligence," but along the top the acronym is "VS RF."  I'm not sure what "VS" means, but "RF" certainly means "Russian Federation" ("Rossiiskaia federatsiia" in Russian).  In other words, this emblem might be that of a post-Soviet successor organization, but it is NOT that of the Soviet-era GRU. Terrasirradient 16:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's correct for the current GRU. VS RF is Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (perhaps better sense is Military Forces of the Russian Federation). Buckshot06 14:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NOT emblem of GRU

message: Vlad Fedorov deleted the following large portions of text:
During 2006 Georgian-Russian espionage controversy several GRU officers were accused by Georgian authorities of preparations to commit sabotage and terrorist acts. GRU detachments from Chechnya were transferred to Lebanon independently on the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon after 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict "to improve Russia’s image in the Arab world", according to Sergei Ivanov. Moscow posts two Chechen platoons in S. Lebanon, one headed by an ex-rebel commander, "to improve Russia’s image in the Arab world" by DEBKAfile  Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev was assassinated by two GRU officers. GRU officers are accused of creating criminal death squads Special services are making teams for extrajudicial punishment (Russian) by Igor Korolkov, Novaya Gazeta, January 11, 2007. 
			
Special services are making teams for extrajudicial punishment (Russian)] by Igor Korolkov, Novaya Gazeta, January 11, 2007. </ref> 
It was reported that GRU helped Saddam Hussein to hide his Weapons of mass destruction before US invasion of Iraq in 2003 Saddam's WMDs and Russia -by David Dastych, Canada Free Press, February 28, 2006  Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs -by Ion Mihai Pacepa, Washington Times, October 2, 2003. 
This text was supported by references and relevant to the subject. Therefore, I had to restore it. ~~~~
==Iraq/ WMD==
I read both articles that are referenced as supporting the claim, that the GRU cleaned Iraq of WMD's before the 2003 Invasion- but both of articles are mere speculation and there is not one official source or some documents that they are based on. Also, both were published in the Washington Times and that is as if Wikipedia would rely solely on Fox News for its political articles. Therefore i removed the sentence until some proof backs this claim up.
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==Reply (GRU and Saddam's WMD)==
Russia "Cleaned Up" Saddam's WMD
Former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw, a "top Pentagon official who was responsible for tracking Saddam Hussein's weapons programs before and after the 2003 liberation of Iraq," stated in October 2004, March 2005, and again in February 2006 that it was the Russians who helped Saddam Hussein to "clean up" his weapons of mass destruction stockpiles "to prevent the United States from discovering them." 
In late October 2004, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United Nations' "nuclear watchdog", told the UN Security Council that the Iraqi Interim Government "reported to the agency" that approximately 380 tons of "conventional explosives" were "missing" from the "vast" Al Qa Qaa complex of "1,100 buildings"  about 30 miles south of Baghdad "after last year's invasion."  
IAEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei "passed on the letter from Iraqi authorities informing the agency of the theft."  The IAEA said that "the material, sealed and monitored by its inspectors until the US-led invasion, had gone missing some time after" April 9, 2003, "during 'the theft and looting of governmental installations'." The IAEA "last inspected the munitions at al-Qaqaa in January 2003 but [had] not been allowed back into Iraq" following the invasion.  
The Associated Press reported October 25, 2004, that, "At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said U.S.-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter, the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity."
The Pentagon was "unclear" as to whether or not the explosives had "disappeared" after the site in Iraq "fell under US control." 
On February 18, 2006, Shaw "told an audience" at "a privately sponsored 'Intelligence Summit'" in Alexandria, Virginia, that "The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went" to Syria and the Bekka valley in Lebanon, Kenneth R. Timmerman reported February 19, 2006, in NewsMax. "They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special forces) units out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence," Shaw said.
However, the Financial Times (UK) reported October 28, 2004, that Shaw had "not provided evidence for his claims and the Pentagon [had] distanced itself from his remarks."
On December 10, 2004, Bill Gertz reported in The Washington Times that Shaw, who was a former aide to Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, "was forced to leave his position ... as the result of a 'reorganization' that eliminated his job, defense officials said. ... Shaw said he had been asked to resign for 'exceeding his authority' in disclosing the information, a charge he called 'specious'." 
It was reported that GRU helped Saddam Hussein to hide his weapons of mass destruction before the US invasion of Iraq in 2003<ref name="Dastych"> Saddam's WMDs and Russia	-by David Dastych, Canada Free Press, February 28, 2006  Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs -by Ion Mihai Pacepa, Washington Times, October 2, 2003. 
===References===
===2003===
*"U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site," CBS News, April 4, 2003.
*"U.S. troops find signs of chemical readiness," Associated Press (Global Security), April 5, 2003.
*Barton Gellman, "Banned Iraqi Weapons Might Be Hard to Find. Suspicious Sites Provide No Proof Yet," Washington Post, April 5, 2003.
*Ion Mihai Pacepa, Op-Ed: "Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD," The Washington Times, August 20, 2003.
===2004===
*Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough, "Early warning," Inside the Ring, May 1, 2004.
*James Glanz, William J. Broad and David E. Sanger, "Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq," New York Times, October 25, 2004.
*"About 380 tons of explosives missing from looted site in Iraq," Associated Press (chron.com), October 25, 2004.
*Matt Drudge, "NBCNews: Cache of Explosives Vanished from Site in Iraq Before Troops Arrived...," Drudge Report, October 25, 2004.
*"Tons of Iraq explosives missing. 'Massive' facility also held large caches of artillery," CNN, October 25, 2004.
*Transcript: "380 Tons of Explosives Disappear From Iraq," CNN Newsnight with Aaron Brown, October 25, 2004.
*"Pentagon says its unclear if explosives disappeared after Iraq site fell under US control," Agence France Presse (Turkish Press), October 25, 2004.
*Jim Geraghty, "Miklaszewski's new report," National Review Online, October 26, 2004. re Joshua Micah Marshall, Talking Points Memo, October 26, 2004.
*"High explosives 'missing in Iraq'," BBC, October 26, 2004.
*David E. Sanger, "Iraq Explosives Become Issue in Campaign," New York Times, October 26, 2004.
*Rowan Scarborough, "Pentagon responds to missing-explosives report," The Washington Times, October 26, 2004.
*Joshua Micah Marshall, Talking Points Memo, October 26, 2004.
*"Discrepancy Found in Explosives Amounts. Documents Show Iraqis May Be Overstating Amount of Missing Material," ABC News, October 27, 2004.
*"Disappearance of explosives in question. Russia calls for investigation into missing stockpile in Iraq," CNN, October 27, 2004.
*"Search Showed No Explosives at Iraqi Base Before War's End," Fox News, October 27, 2004.
*"All the President's Excuses," American Progress Action Fund, October 27, 2004. APAF compares "rhetoric" to "reality".
*Joshua Micah Marshall, Talking Points Memo, October 27, 2004.
*Michelle Malkin, "Moscow and the Missing Cache," michellemalkin.com, October 27, 2004.
*Bill Gertz, "Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms," The Washington Times, October 28, 2004.
*"Russian Defense, Foreign Ministry Refute Reports on Smuggling Iraqi Arms," MosNews, October 28, 2004.
*"Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control. Evidence Indicates U.S. Military Opened Al-Qaaqa Bunkers, Left Them Unguarded," ABC News, October 28, 2004.
*James Glanz and Jim Dwyer, "4 Iraqis Tell of Looting at Munitions Site in '03," New York Times, October 28, 2004.
*Transcript: "Controversy Over Missing Explosives Intensifies," CNN Newsnight with Aaron Brown, October 28, 2004.
*Mark Follman, "Al Qaqaa story continues to explode," Salon "War Room", October 28, 2004. Subscription or preview required.
*Demetri Sevastopulo, Guy Dinmore, and James Harding, "Russians 'may have taken Iraq explosives'," Financial Times (UK), October 28, 2004. Registration required.
*Luis, "Top Iraqi Official: Explosives 'Could Not Have Been Taken' Before US Invasion," The Blog From Another Dimension, October 28, 2004.
*"Russia accused of removing WMDs from Iraq," SiberianLight, October 28, 2004.
*"Russians didn't remove weapons from Iraq," SiberianLight, October 29, 2004.
*"Photo, video show Iraqi complex before, after invasion," CNN, October 29, 2004.
*"New twist in Iraq explosives row," BBC, October 29, 2004.
*Bradley Graham and Thomas E. Ricks, "Munitions Issue Dwarfs the Big Picture," Washington Post, October 29, 2004.
*"Pentagon: Some explosives possibly destroyed," Associated Press (MSNBC.MSN.com), October 29, 2006.
*Gordon Prather, "October Surprise and the 'Axis of Evil'," Lew Rockwell.com, November 1, 2004.
*Bill Gertz, "Pentagon ousts official who tied Russia, Iraq arms," The Washington Times, December 30, 2004.
*"Pentagon Dismisses Official Who Accused Russia of Involvement in Iraq Weapons Scam," MosNews, December 30, 2004.
===2005===
*www.infowarscom/articles/iraq/us_paid_pro_saddam_figures_china_france.htm  "Pentagon Document: U.S. Paid Pro-Saddam Figures, Chinese and French,"] NewsMax, February 28, 2005.
*Charles R. Smith, "Russia Moved Iraqi WMD. Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon," NewsMax, March 3, 2005.
===2006===
*Kenneth R. Timmerman, "Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMD," NewsMax, February 19, 2006.
*Sunnye T, "Speech ceases to be free when it becomes a lie. The American media has lied to us again," GOP Insight, February 21, 2006.
*Mike Minton, "The Case For War In Iraq-The Evidence And The Moscow Connection," American Daily, February 22, 2006.
*Ben Johnson, "Saddam's WMDs: The Russian-Syrian Connection," FrontPageMag.com, March 20, 2006.
*"The Bear Is Back," Investors Business Daily, March 24, 2006.
Biophys 02:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of text

message: *Kenneth R. Timmerman, "Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMD," NewsMax, February 19, 2006.
*Sunnye T, "Speech ceases to be free when it becomes a lie. The American media has lied to us again," GOP Insight, February 21, 2006.
*Mike Minton, "The Case For War In Iraq-The Evidence And The Moscow Connection," American Daily, February 22, 2006.
*Ben Johnson, "Saddam's WMDs: The Russian-Syrian Connection," FrontPageMag.com, March 20, 2006.
*"The Bear Is Back," Investors Business Daily, March 24, 2006.
Biophys 02:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006

message: First, this is article about GRU, not about Galkin. Of course, one can create a separate article about him and refer to this article here. Second, this text is based mostly on two articles from Novaya Gazeta, which is not accessible. According to WP:SOURCE#Language, "when editors use their own translations, the original-language material should be provided too, preferably in a footnote, so that readers can check the translation for themselves.". Please provide the original Russian text here or anywhere. Otherwise, this does not satisfy WP:SOURCE.Biophys 17:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur...Gaimhreadhan(kiwiexile at DMOZ)  • 19:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be a good idea to make articles about Alexei Galkin,  Achemez Gochiyaev and some other people involved in the Russian apartment bombings controversy. But we need sources that satisfy WP:SOURCE. Biophys 19:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed the links which were already seen in the source code of the page. Now you try them.Vlad fedorov 03:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Vlad provided the sources, and they seem to be O'K except incorrect translation of some titles. So, I have created new article Aleksey Galkin and transfered all materials about him there. Now, his case should be only briefly mentioned in this article.Biophys 16:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Case of Galkin

message: This is article about GRU. The claims about Saddam's WMD are controversial and only remotely related to this organization. One could tell only one or two phrases in this article, as it was in the initial version. But right now Vlad included a lot of text about it.  So, it would be better to make a separate article about this controversy, and remove it from here. I will try to make this right now, since I might be blocked soon.Biophys 23:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an update. If article Russia and Saddam WMD allegations will survive AfD, this segment of text should be only briefly mentioned, just as the description of Aleksey Galkin case. This material is not so important. Biophys 23:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Saddam's WMD controversy

message: Biophys inserted information about Operation Sarindar by Pacepa. BUT PACEPA NOWHERE CLAIMS THAT OPERATION SARINDAR WAS PERFORMED BY GRU. User Biophys has made original research which should be deleted from the article immediately. Vlad fedorov 12:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research by Biophys

message: The GRU played a considerable role in Russia’s attempts to exploit the 1992-1993 war between Abkhazia and Georgia.  While Moscow officially supported Georgia in the conflict, imposing sanctions against Abkhazia, the Minister of Defense, Pavel Grachev, provided considerable military support to the Abkhaz side, apparently on his own personal initiative. Anton Surikov, who as a GRU officer was directly involved in these events (many consider that he was Basaev’s kurator in Abkhazia, though he himself denies it), later stated: “That [Pavel Grachev] carried out in Abkhazia his own personal policy is true.  And this, from the point of view of Russia’s interests, was a very useful and correct policy.  Without Grachev Abkhazia would not have stood.  He personally was the true organizer of the defense of the republic.”  The Russian military, under Grachev’s command, at the very least allowed the Confederation of the Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus to send several volunteer battalions to back the Abkhaz, which proved key to the Abkhaz victory in 1993; most probably, these battalions also received logistical support and training from the GRU.  Information has persistently surfaced that the Caucasian battalions’ most talented commander, Shamil Basaev, who was named Deputy Minister of Defense of Abkhazia, was trained at a GRU base near Volgograd in 1992.  The GRU also reportedly deployed its own Spetznaz unit, under Surikov’s command, tasked, between August and October 1992, with eliminating Georgian field commanders. Biophys 20:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes-yes! "" The GRU played a considerable role in Russia’s attempts to exploit the 1992-1993 was between Abkhazia and Georgia. "
  It is a feller. For this contractor. To pull out of the Wikipedia discussion field. In the hope . There are those who have forgiven the $ 5,000,000,000. Now wait patiently for a Entscheidung by the General Procurator. The other $ 20,000,000,000. In the same hope: to get peace and reconciliation with the GRU RF. Forgiveness has countless human lives. Everything has been around!
Also . The favorable times are here. To ... complete something.
Well. Where's the friends and relatives? Of 120 Russian sailors and naval officers killed. From "Kursk 141". No one stayed alive or what?33Habujin (talk) 16:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Basayev

message: The article is piece of junk. No organization structure, no historical timeline (only biased events, some does have nothing in common with GRU), no valid reference materials.
I think it should be completely reworked.
Thebiggestmac (talk) 14:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Junk article

message: Sulim Yamadayev, who is apparently deceased, is mentioned in the present tense. The article also mentions the disbanded Vostok and Zapad battalions in the present tense. I'm not sure how to change this, but it needs to be changed for consistency. 97.125.51.63 (talk) 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sulim Yamadayev

message: New Chief of the Russian Military Intelligence... MAKS123 (talk) 14:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Igor Sergun]]

message: What was the logo of gru in Soviet era? This image below rather won't be suitable in the soviet/stalinism especially era,
especially because of tsar symbols...
File:GRU emblem.svg 2.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.103.25 (talk) 03:00, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Soviet Era logo

message: It's beyond ridicalous, also see KGB or NKVD etc. --Niemti (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone move it to [[GRU]]

message: :"The GRU was well known in the Soviet government for its fierce independence from the rival 'internal intelligence organizations', such as NKVD and KGB."
I have looked through multiple pages and I can't find one that gives a SIMPLE (2-4 sentences) explanation of the relationship between GRU, KGB and NKVD beyond a simple statement like this. Reading entries on the Soviet Union on Wikipedia, I see all three referred to as the primary intelligence gathering agency and secret police force. 
I know there is probably overlap between time periods when they all existed but I found the page on chronology of Soviet intelligence more confusing than enlightening. Espionage is such a hot topic for amateur scholars, there must be someone who can briefly outline the difference between GRU and these other two agencies and explain the history of their rivalry. That would be worth an entire article of its own. Thanks! 69.125.134.86 (talk) 20:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: GRU vs. KGB vs. NKVD

message: Come on guys, you know perfectly well that the full title is incomprehensible in English. We have a duty to communicate clearly in our language. GRU is what the title ought to be. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

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message: there isn't enough info/structure about the Spetsnaz GRU to warrant a separate article. Lugnuthemvar (talk) 09:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Spetsnaz GRU

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message: Please provide WP:RS telling that buildings on the image are indeed GRU headquarters. In addition, this looks like a TV screenshot. Is it? If so, this is a copyright violation. My very best wishes (talk) 18:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Some of the young participants of Wikipedia write and write about the secret work of the Russian military intelligence. And there are important reasons. What for ? Why? For what ? Well, of course, to help! To improve! And page Wikipedia about Russian military intelligence. And the work of the valiant defenders of the Motherland. Honestly split payment and honors for successful OP. Part, and a significant part of, relies on their friends and on friendly organizations. After all, our officers reluctantly everything yourself hog" --<IP for Wikipedia .ru  block . Sorry>Pro Rolex2 (talk) 13:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe lost in translation, but I don't know what you are talking about.  The picture looks like the same building on google street view, but google images are copyright and someone added that picture as free license to be used for wikipedia. here's a link to a (copyright) internet image  --IP_commenter (talk) 04:34, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we don't know that it's free even if the uploader has claimed it as their own. Thousands upon thousands of copyrighted images are uploaded by users to Wiki Commons and claimed as their own. I've found the originals of enough photos used in articles on Wikipedia from there that have simply been cropped slightly and passed off as 'own work'. The uploader -(here - is highly dubious. Of the 3 images s/he has ever uploaded (all in a short spate in 2013), one was quickly deleted as a copyright violation. If there was exif data, I might have been more predisposed to believe that it was genuinely that person's work. Wiki Commons has to look out for WP:COPYVIO. As editors here, we have to be even more vigilant as we are providing a venue to accommodate a high risk copyvio photo at Wikipedia's risk (i.e., by posting it, we are validating it as being a genuinely free image). That's not a risk we are at liberty to take. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:18, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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thread_title: GRU building

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message: "In May 1992 the GRU was dissolved and became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense.
In 2006 the GRU moved to a new Headquarters complex at Khoroshovskoye Shosse.." These consecutive sentences seem to say that it was dissolved in May 1992, meaning that it no longer existed but that its existence continued 14 years later. Should it say that in May 1992 it was transferred fro one supervising authority to another, or should it say that it was dissolved in May 1992 and then it was restored to function at some later date? Perhaps we could just leave out "was dissolved and" so that the article says ""In May 1992 the GRU became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense." Edison (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Dissolved in 1992 or not? Zombie spy agency? The living dead?

message: Needs complete section. Wikipietime (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Section needed on 2016 US election

message: The President has reorganized military intelligence. Just as with the KGB already happened. Since he has encountered some incompronesance ... Everyone has his arguments ...Simpoatisant1234567890987654323456 (talk) 14:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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message: The GRU that this article is about only came into existence in 1992, as part of the Russian Federation. If we're going to be including information on individuals like Klaus Fuchs, then I think either the primary infobox needs to be changed, or we need a new article making a distinction between the Soviet and post-Soviet organizations, akin to the SVR vs. the KGB. PvOberstein (talk) 17:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Soviet vs. Russian

message: * Story by Daniel Turovsky, translation by Kevin Rothrock.  November 6, 2018,  What is the GRU? Who gets recruited to be a spy? Why are they exposed so often? Here are the most important things you should know about Russia’s intelligence community, Meduza.
Infinitepeace (talk) 04:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Pension Fund of the Officers of the Headquarters of the Supreme Command. Is it true? That the colonels of the GU / GRU are officers of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command. User3456789876 (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to GRU (Russian Federation) and GRU (Soviet Union).  (non-admin closure)  Vpab15 (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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thread_title:  "[[:Glavnoe Razvedyvatel'noe Upravlenie]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]