Talk:Sanssouci/Archive 1

message: ... to convert red links to blue - please indicate "claimed" and sign:
Note: I removed the wikilinks from the remaining redlinks. None of them appear to have articles in the German Wikipedia (where Sanssouci is an FA) so I think the article stands up without them. (This doesn't stop anyone from creating articles anyway, of course). In addition, a translation of Breslau Palace has been requested. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, but the last paragraph needs checking - especially my translation of 'Auffahrt' as 'approach' (the only other word my dictionary offered was 'drive' or 'driveway') which seems too vague. (Briefly had problems with 'Seitenfügel' until I realised when doing Ludwig Persius that it was a misspelling of 'Seitenflügel'). --Malthusian (talk) 16:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I checked the German version; it links to Bernterode (bei Worbis), so I changed the link in the English version accordingly. --Inge-Lyubov 01:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: *In the meantime I inserted a stub based on what there was in :de:Breslau. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles needed

message: All the articles with a corresponding article in German are now either done or claimed. For the rest of the redlinks, do we really need articles there, given that the German version apparently got to featured status without them? Generally I'm interested to know what more needs to bring this article to featured status on this language Wikipedia. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 15:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked at some other FAs and "some" red links seems to be ok.  I gave the article today a proof-read and asked Agathoclea to do the same (my conversing in US English makes me not the best qualified to edit an article written originally in UK English).  When he's done I think we need at least one more person to give it another go and then we should be ready to nominate it.  I was thinking to ask Saintswithin but you would be a good choice as well, Sammy.  :)  --Mmounties (Talk)   05:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current progress towards featured article status?

message: ===Style===
I've started to go through the article, making minor changes as necessary. One of the more major thing's I'm doing is to remove the German versions of the quotes, leaving just the English in there. To include both seems a bit much. Any strong thoughts on this? Although I've removed the German for the moment we could easily incorporate them as footnotes. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes perfect sense to me. If someone wants the German version they can go to the de version.  This will streamline the article a great deal.  --Easter Monkey 04:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well.  Go to it!  --Mmounties (Talk)   04:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

text: From , I expect that this article is called "Spröde Fassadengeschichten". I guess it is possible to find another reference for the Fredrick quote, though. Kusma (討論) 16:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul

message: I've started to go through the article, making minor changes as necessary. One of the more major thing's I'm doing is to remove the German versions of the quotes, leaving just the English in there. To include both seems a bit much. Any strong thoughts on this? Although I've removed the German for the moment we could easily incorporate them as footnotes. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes perfect sense to me. If someone wants the German version they can go to the de version.  This will streamline the article a great deal.  --Easter Monkey 04:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well.  Go to it!  --Mmounties (Talk)   04:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: I'm in the middle of making the references and external links sections prettier - you can see what I'm aiming for here. This link, however: "http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/2003/0219/feuilleton/0020/index.html 19.02.2003 Retrieved 19.1.06" is dead. If it's a newspaper/magazine article it doesn't need an URL to be a valid reference, but it does need the name of the article, and since it's a dead link I have no idea what that is. Does whoever inserted it know what the article was called? --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From , I expect that this article is called "Spröde Fassadengeschichten". I guess it is possible to find another reference for the Fredrick quote, though. Kusma (討論) 16:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead reference

message: Following on from the above, I've added the  tag to the article while I fix the references. I know it's obtrusive and isn't in keeping with the spirit of WP:OWN, but updating the references affects the whole article, and if anyone made even a minor correction it would just have to be made again when I dumped the new version in from my userspace. With a bit of luck I should be finished by today, and that ugly banner will give me an incentive to hurry it up. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 11:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: In use tag

message: The redlinks are filled (or removed), including all the relevant buildings, the references have been overhauled and the article has been proofread. Anyone have any objection to me submitting this on Featured article candidates as it is? --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 12:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You did a BEAUTIful job.  It's looking fine to me to submit.  And thanks for all that hard work you did on this one.  --Mmounties (Talk)   03:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, thanks a lot for all the work, I could never have done this on my own. :) Trebor27trebor 10:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for [[WP:FAC]]? 

message: It is repeated twice in one passage that the New Palace was intended as a celebration of the "power and strength" achieved by Prussia in the wake of the Seven Years' War. However, the war ended with Russian forces occupying Berlin, Frederick on the verge of abdication, and salvaged from utter ruin only by the miracle of the House of Brandenburg. This passage seems to be a piece of speculation and/or wishful thinking. --Ghirla -трёп- 15:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: More of an inaccurate reading of the source. I've tried to correct it. --Sam Blanning(talk) 15:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seven Years' War 

message: Regarding this edit:  While "ohne Sorge" does indeed translate as "without care" into English. Most people (including Germans) refer to the palace as Sanssouci.  Probably as a direct result of the German speaking Prussian king who built it having the motto and name "Sans' Souci" engraved around the central dome above the principal facade.  Sanssouci is its name, and Sanssouci it is universally called. Giano | talk 21:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw a fair bit of the references while I was overhauling them, and I didn't see it referred to as 'Ohne Sorge' anywhere except as a translation (so AFAIK it wasn't referred to as 'ohne Sorge' any more than I tell my friends I've been listening to a lot of Dead Trousers recently). If it's true, it needs to be referenced. --Sam Blanning(talk) 22:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "ohne Sorge" 

message: Angr, I believe the idea is that since this is now a FA on it's own merits that was originally based on the German article and has since then been greatly improved on, we believe it is unlikely that it can be improved on by changes made on the basis of the German article.  Please remove the template again.  --Mmounties (Talk)   16:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The German article has nothing further to offer this page, as information on that page not here is now on other English wiki pages pertaining to this one.  That is why I removed the template. Giano | talk 16:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the above. According to the non-included text at Template:FAOL, if the English article is as or more detailed as the relevant foreign-language versions,  should be removed from the talk page. That seems to be the consensus emerging here, so I've removed it again. --Sam Blanning(talk) 17:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Echo Template