Talk:Aesthetics

message: english 115.147.53.244 (talk) 07:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  aesthetic philosophy 

message: Beauty in form of art makes us appreciate it 105.113.19.163 (talk) 12:59, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aesthetics 

message: we have a red link to Machine aesthetic. Is it a definable concept? If not, then the redirect should be done or red links to be unlinked Estopedist1 (talk) 21:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I also discovered a red link Maschine aesthetics (related to neofunctualism?) Estopedist1 (talk) 16:35, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Machine aesthetic? 

message: What is aesthetic? Relation of Nature and social aesthetic?
39.33.106.29 (talk) 10:22, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is aesthetic? Relation of Nature and social aesthetic? 

message: The redirect Aesthetics and philosophy of art has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Aesthetics of art has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Kalology has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Beautiful language has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Ethestics has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:53, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Being Beautiful in Spirit has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:55, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Æsthetic has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Esthetical has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Esthetically has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Esthetically]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Æsthetically has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Æsthetically]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: WITHDRAWN per WP:SNOW: no support for move, and other issues with incoming links are more important and will need to be addressed separately regardless.   - car chasm (talk) 20:02, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Aesthetics →  – I've moved the page Aesthetics to "Philosophical aesthetics" which is a more exact name for this field of study and updated the redirects. Given the sheer number of incoming links that had nothing to do with the subject of this page, I felt justified in doing so WP:BOLDLY, but was asked to open a move request by , mea culpa for doing this out of process - it seems clear that people use this word to mean much more than just the branch of philosophy, so that is not a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The original target page of "Aesthetics" should probably  also be made into a dab instead of a redirect at some point, but many of the page links seem to have no appropriate target whatsoever so I'm going through and unwikilinking and copyediting anything where the use of the word "aesthetics" is filler text first, repointing other links as necessary, while keeping the redirect so as to not break links which this page is also a legitimate target of, which are also numerous.  - car chasm (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 May 2023 

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message: The redirect Aesthetics and the philosophy of art has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.   - car chasm (talk) 19:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect Being beautiful in spirit has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Steel1943 (talk) 21:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: I removed a big chunk of text describing the theory of Schmidhuber, which felt disproportionate. If anyone is planning to write an article about this topic I'll copy it here for future reference.
In the 1990s, Jürgen Schmidhuber described an algorithmic theory of beauty. This theory takes the subjectivity of the observer into account and postulates that among several observations classified as comparable by a given subjective observer, the most aesthetically pleasing is the one that is encoded by the shortest description. He uses the differences between these lengths to account for subjective differences between the aesthetic tastes of different observers, as one's ability to efficiently describe an observation is based on their particular mental method of encoding data and the proximity of the observation to the subject's prior knowledge. The theory is inspired by principles of algorithmic information theory, especially minimum description length, which prefers mathematical models that use the least information to describe data. As an example, Schmidhuber notes that mathematicians tend to aesthetically prefer simple proofs with a short description in their formal language. Another concrete example describes an aesthetically pleasing human face whose proportions can be described by very few bits of information, drawing inspiration from less detailed 15th century proportion studies by Leonardo da Vinci and Albrecht Dürer. Schmidhuber's theory explicitly distinguishes between that which is beautiful and that which is interesting, stating that interestingness corresponds to the first derivative of subjectively perceived beauty. He supposes that every observer continually tries to improve the predictability and compressibility of their observations by identifying regularities like repetition, symmetry, and fractal self-similarity. Whenever the observer's learning process (which may be a predictive artificial neural network) leads to improved data compression such that the observation sequence can be described by fewer bits than before, the temporary interestingness of the data corresponds to the number of saved bits. This compression progress is proportional to the observer's internal reward, also called curiosity reward. A reinforcement learning algorithm is used to maximize future expected reward by learning to execute action sequences that cause additional interesting input data with yet unknown but learnable predictability or regularity. The principles can be implemented on artificial agents which then exhibit a form of artificial curiosity. Apoptheosis (talk) 23:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computational Aesthetics