Talk:The Secret Agent

message: Currently, there is one piece of "trivia" listed in this section and it runs as follows:
:According to evidence from the Unabomber proceedings this book apparently had quite an effect on Theodore Kaczynski.
This phrase is so vague as to be meaningless. What kind of effect did it have? What evidence? How did Conrad's novel influence Kaczynski? It would be nice if this could be clarified by whoever wrote this, otherwise I think it needs to be deleted.
--Todeswalzer 18:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The recent inclusion by George Leung of more detailed information on this matter needs to be sourced or removed. (It also seems to me that the heading of "Trivia" isn't quite the right thing to call this.) --Todeswalzer|Talk 16:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, and I'm going to go ahead and delete the trivia section altogether. --Nick 16:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: I've removed from the article the text of the dedication to HG Wells...
:TO H. G. WELLS
:the chronicler of Mr. Lewisham's love the biographer of Kipps and the historian of the ages to come
:this simple tale of the XIX century is affectionately offered
... included by Dpapic, because it doesn't, on its own, add much to the article. I also don't know of any other articles discussing specific novels where the dedication has been included ver batim. However, it might be nice to know why Conrad chose to dedicate this novel to HG Wells: please, Dpapic, include this information (perhaps somewhere in the lead section) if you happen to know it. --Todeswalzer|Talk 18:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless someone can find a scholarly source which says WHY anyone should consider the information useful then it shouldn't be included. After all, it's just a dedication - guessing at what it would mean would surely be original research.--Adasta</strong></b>   21:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but you don't need to say anything about the dedication to quote it.  Quoting the dedication is not original research, it's just supplying information about the book, which touches on another writer.  Similarly, one might find information that the author mentions in an introduction that a book was written in London -- you don't need outside research, because the evidence is internal to the book; and it's just another nifty fact about the book the average reader might find interesting.  CC.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.121.46 (talk) 23:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dedication 

message: Can someone render an opinion on the historicity of this novel?  Is it based on an event that actually happened?  Or, were there other events sufficiently close to this going on at that time?
Much appreciate it.  
Great novel; a good article on it, too.  [CC]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.121.40 (talk) 15:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good suggestion -- I've included some of the background on the Greenwich bombing. --Junius49 (talk) 01:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  CC.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.121.46 (talk) 18:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historicity? 

message: I'm pretty uncomfortable with the Kaczynski section's inclusion in this article. 
a) as a paragraph, it has more words in it than either of the two sections about the book.
b) it has the effect of adding sensationalist mystique to the book, constructing the book in a way that it appears to have central significance to Kaczynski's crimes. The book is absolutely prescient and relevant for a variety of reasons in the contemporary world. The narrative can be traced in endless revolutionary/terrorist actions -- so it seems to be silly to focus on this one event. (not to mention that the same paragraph exists verbatim in the Kaczynski article)
I propose removal of the Kaczynski paragraph.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.168.125.240 (talk) 15:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the Unabomber section should be removed or at least reduced -- it should certainly be taken out of the intro. --Junius49 (talk) 01:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've removed the reference to the Unabomber in the intro. --Junius49 (talk) 13:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaczynski 

message: It's been some time since I read the book, but I'm pretty sure Ossipon isn't panicked by Mrs. Verloc's suicide - quite the opposite. Ossipon, who's a professional gigolo, betrays Mrs. Verloc and steals her money, driving her to suicide, about which he doesn't really know, but can guess and gets so disgusted with himself that it hampers his earning power, driving him to starvation - perhaps the synopsis on the page is from some movie? I think the synopsis should be much shorter anyway - the novel isn't about the action anyway...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.70.215.172 (talk) 09:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis 

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===Stage===
* In 1923 Conrad adapted the novel as a three-act drama of the same title.
* On 23 May 2006 the Feldkirch Festival premiered an opera based on the novel. Simon Wills wrote the music and libretto and Peter Kajlinger sang the main character, Adolf Verloc.
* A theatrical adaptation was produced in 2007 by Alexander Gelman, Artistic Director of Organic Theater Company in Chicago, IL, premiering on 18 April 2008.
* In January 2008, the play was staged in Italian by the Teatro Stabile di Genova of Genoa, under the direction of Marco Sciaccaluga.
* The Center for Contemporary Opera in New York presented the world premiere of a new opera by Michael Dellaira (music) and J D McClatchy (libretto), at the Kaye Playhouse at Hunter College on 18 March 2011. Amy Burton sang Winnie, Scott Bearden sang Verloc.  It had its European premiere at the Armel International Opera Festival on 14 October 2011 in Szeged, Hungary, where the opera was broadcast live on the Arte Channel, and named the festival's "Laureat". Adrienn Miksch sang Winnie, Nicolas Rigas sang Verloc. The same production was reprised on 18 April 2012 at L'Opéra-Théâtre d'Avignon in Avignon, France.  All productions were directed by Sam Helfrich and conducted by Sara Jobin.
* The Capitol City Opera Company of Atlanta presented the world premiere of The Secret Agent, an opera in two acts with music by Curtis Bryant and libretto by Allen Reichman at the Conant Center for Performing Arts at Oglethorpe University on 15 March 2013.  Directed by Michael Nutter, the production featured soprano Elizabeth Claxton in the role of Winnie, baritone Wade Thomas as Verloc and tenor Timothy Miller as Ossipon.  In this operatic treatment, originally completed in 2007 under the title The Anarchist, Winnie, discovering that she has been abandoned on the train, sings a final aria "Fooled Again."  Bryant quotes one measure from Puccini's Tosca before Winnie leaps into the path of an oncoming train, ending her life and the opera.
===Film===
* The novel supposedly formed the basis for Alfred Hitchcock's 1936 film, Sabotage, though the plot and characters are very different. (Another 1936 Hitchcock film, Secret Agent, was based on short stories by W. Somerset Maugham.)
* A 1996 film The Secret Agent, more faithful to the original novel, starred Bob Hoskins, Patricia Arquette and Gérard Depardieu.
===Television===
* The BBC adapted The Secret Agent in two 45-minute episodes in 1967, with Nigel Green as Adolph Verloc, Mary Webster as Winnie, Dennis Waterman as Stevie, David Collings as Mr Vladimir, Edwin Richfield as Chief Inspector Heat, and John Cater as The Professor.
* A second BBC version, a single 95-minute play, was screened in 1975, with Paul Rogers as Verloc, Frances White as Winnie, Peter Clough as Stevie, Anton Rodgers as Mr Vladimir, Peter Sallis as Chief Inspector Heat, and John Cater reprising as The Professor.
* A third BBC version, in three 55-minute episodes, appeared in 1992, with David Suchet as Adolf Verloc, Cheryl Campbell as his wife Winnie, and Peter Capaldi as Mr Vladimir. Verloc was transformed into a more sympathetic character for this work, in which he deeply grieved for Stevie's death.
* In July 2016 the BBC broadcast a fourth version, starring Toby Jones, Vicky McClure and Stephen Graham.
===Radio===
* David Napthine dramatised a radio adaptation for BBC Radio 4 in 2006, starring Ron Cook and Robert Glenister.
Archiving this unsourced list of adaptations here. Feel free to reinstate with reliable, independent sources. (not watching, please ) czar 13:08, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptations 

message: * David Napthine dramatised a radio adaptation for BBC Radio 4 in 2006, starring Ron Cook and Robert Glenister.
Archiving this unsourced list of adaptations here. Feel free to reinstate with reliable, independent sources. (not watching, please ) czar 13:08, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio