Talk:Carrick bend

message: Why do Double coin knot rederict to Carrick bend??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9L1imQg3VA  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/... (talk) 22:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'm removing the statement: "Carrick is also a local government district in Cornwall and the knot is the emblem of Carrick District Council." from the Etymology section.  Assuming this organization does in fact use the knot as an emblem, and I did not see it on their website, it appears they chose after the knot already had that name rather than being the source.  See the bottom part of this page.  (Incidentally, it would be interesting to get more information or photos of the knots depicted in Ormonde Castle...)  --Dfred 03:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Carrick District Council

message: In an edit at 2006-11-12T22:55:20 the user at 70.73.37.17 changed Carrick-on-Suir to Carricky-on-Suir, breaking the link.  I could find no Google matches for Carricky-on-Suir so I reverted this edit.  If the correct name is Carricky, please provide a reference.  --Dfred 15:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Carricky-on-Suir?

message: The heraldic device is more commonly called a "Wake Knot".  It is the emblem of the Wake family, of whom Hereward the Wake is the name which springs to mind.  The knot appears as an emblem in many areas where the family held land, particularly in Lincolnshire.  It appears as a device on the Coat of Arms of the town of Bourne.  The emblematic use of the knot appears to be in the right of the family, and they have been known to take a dim view of usage they deem inappropriate (certainly in Bourne it is a no-no).
In view of the comments in the article, and notwithstanding the Wikipedia strictures about original research, it might be worthwhile to establish whether the buildings where the knot has been used decoratively have (or have had) any connection with the Wake family.
Guy 10:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd not heard of that particular name/association, but it is interesting information.  Sounds like the Wake family's claim might be a regional thing.  The knot is definitely used in other coats of arms, for instance the City of Dundee uses it -- see page 8 of this PDF for a hi-res version.   Wikipedians in the UK (I'm not) probably have access much better reference materials wrt these questions. --Dfred 18:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the Coat of Arms of Bourne Town Council .  I do not have the written description of the Arms to hand, which will describe the knot.  Comparing these descriptions will be a starting-point for a researcher.  In heraldry the artist works with the heraldic description to produce a picture, and therefore there might be slight differences, even between pictures of the same Arms.  Often features are more stylised, that is the skill of a good heraldic artist.    Guy 20:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is interesting: .  It is a description of the Stafford knot.  The Stafford knot (not "Staffordshire") is the emblem of the Stafford family, and is tied using a single strand.  It seems that there is some common ancestry there (the Stafford family was linked to the Wake family).  Guy 16:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added mention and ref for association with Hereward the Wake to article.  --Dfred 11:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wake Knot 

message: Would it be worth adding that the most basic form of Turk's head knot is a followed-through Carrick bend? Alansplodge (talk) 21:02, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  I also linked to carrick mat in the text, the article where this form is covered.  --Dfred (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basis of Turk's head knot 

message: There is no way to massage a carrick bend to look like the knot shown here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carrick-bend-ABOK-1439-Capsized.jpg
The lovely, symmetrical, four-loop knot shown in the image is a different knot that I have reproduced (I don't know its name). I have taken the liberty of removing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carrick-bend-ABOK-1439-Capsized.jpg
Harold f (talk) 12:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: On the contrary, that knot can be made easily from the carrick bend's flat woven arrangement by pulling all four ends individually. Nonetheless, it should stay out of the article because it shows an improper dressing that destroys most of the carrick bend's ease of untying. There should be an image showing the proper dressing (as achieved by pulling both standing parts of a loosely-woven flat weave). Unfortunately, I don't know of a suitable image for that. 96.61.58.122 (talk) 11:59, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "capsized carrick bend" is *not* a carrick bend 

message: Shouldn't "Bosun's Knot" be "Boatswain's Knot"? I have heard that this is the more traditional and proper spelling of the word, pronounced /ˈboʊsən/.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IanSan5653 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosun vs Boatswain 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The top picture is a diagonal seized carrick bend. Below that, there is a picture of a capsized carrick bend. However, the bottom picture is a capsized horizontal carrick bend, and thus not a capsized version of the picture above it. 2001:1C00:2409:9600:D359:E84F:A436:EC82 (talk) 17:52, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The capsized bend at the top image is not made from the seized one shown above.