Wikipedia talk:Notability

message: I would like to be able to make my own articles easily without having to edit another one. Plz fix this, wikipedia.org. 66.255.214.97 (talk) 20:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You should be able to create drafts, and once created you should be able to nominate them for review as a potential new article. See Wikipedia:Drafts. However, new users are required to demonstrate some level of experience and competence before they are allowed to create articles directly. This is a deliberate decision to protect the encyclopedia from spam and low-quality content, not a problem in need of fixing. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannot create new articles without having to  use this 

message: I want to ask for editors' thought on this. Can a Wikipedia project in another language has a stricter notability criteria (particularly the additional criteria) than the English project? Does that mean there can exist articles that is eligible for notability (and inclusion) in the English Wikipedia but not in another language? If an article is deleted on the "local" Wikipedia for failing its stricter criteria, can that same article be retained in the English version since it meets the more laxed criteria here? Consultant Wiki (talk) 00:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, yes, and yes. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: The choice of notability criteria is different from project to project, and there is no logical requirement that these choices can be ordered linearly on a strictness scale. It would be entirely possible for two different Wikipedias to each have articles that are not notable by the other one's standards. English has no special place in this regard. I don't happen to know of a case where other Wikipedias would not consider an English-Wikipedia-notable topic to be locally notable, but I don't know any reason why it should be impossible. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you @David Eppstein, @Newimpartial and @Voorts for the clarifications. Much appreciated. On a related note, if a different-language Wikipedia set a stricter criteria (says, being members of the national legislature is no longer a valid criteria for that project's equivalent of WP:POLITICIAN), would this have any effects on the notability of the English Wikipedia article of a subject coming from that country/language (as long as EnWiki WP:POLITICIAN still considers member of national parliament to be notable)? Consultant Wiki (talk) 00:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it would not. As everyone has just said, every project has its own policies and guidelines, including guidelines for notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I believe that BLP notability is much tighter at some Wikipedias. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I don't see why not. Each project has its own criteria. Also, notability is not some kind of measurable quantity, and many deletions on enwiki are motivated by WP:NOT rather than, say, the quantity of sources available. I imagine that deletion on some other language wikis may be based on similar criteria, and there is even less reason to expect those considerations to "line up" than there is reason why sourcing critera would produce a set of results than can be lined up from "stricter" to "more relaxed". I think it is best to think of each wiki applying its own, independent standards and considerations. Newimpartial (talk) 00:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Agree with all above - in deletion discussions that the subject (usually a person) has an article on another language is only a weakly pursuasive argument, and for purists no argument at all. If they have articles in say 15 other languages, that is rather different. Johnbod (talk) 01:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen editors occasionally claim in deletion discussions that the article at some other Wikipedia was recently deleted, so we "have to" delete this one here.  I don't think I've seen any experienced editor agree with that, though. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it unusual if another language's Wikipedia has a stricter notability criteria than the English Wikipedia?