Talk:Evening Standard

message: Remove (London) from the title:
*No reason for the disambiguation with the other page being a redirect to here. Jooler 18:47, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: I've removed some of the text relating to Metro, as this is an entirely separate newspaper (available throughout the UK, not just the London commuter area) and already has its own article. It isn't an alternative edition of the Standard as the previous text seemed to imply. AdorableRuffian 00:23, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All UK national newspapers are "localised" to some extent, though - Metro is no exception. For what it's worth, the different Metro editions are more or less identical, apart from the event listings, classified advertisements and similar. AdorableRuffian 22:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metro 

message: The history section does not make sense at all. Whoever wrote that has completely confused the different papers.
The London newspaper called the Evening News started in 1881 and in 1893 the Harmsworth brothers bought it from Coleridge Kennard for £25,000. It became highly successful and was one of the leading popular papers. It assimilated many other papers, for example the Evening Mail in 1901 and appeared for few years under the name The Evening News and Mail. But it always returned to the name Evening News. It was incorporated into the the Evening Standard (actually twice) in the 1980s.
The Evening Standard is a completely different newspaper that started in 1827 and was a long time rival for the Evening News, until the merger in the 1980s. But right now, I don't know enough about that to rewrite the history.
So, I'm removing the history section from the actual page, because it is clearly misleading. I'm pasting it here just in case.
For sources, see for example:
*Engel, M. (1996) Tickle the Public : One hundred years of the popular press. Gollancz, London.
*Lee, A.J. (1976) The Origins of the Popular Press in England 1855–1914. Croom Helm, London.
*Herd, H. (1952) The march of journalism : the story of the British press from 1622 to the present day. Allen & Unwin, London.
Removed history section:
The paper was launched as the Standard on May 21, 1827, and for a short period, during the 1990s, it reverted to its original name (some other local newspapers in the UK have also been named Evening Standard).  In 1893, it was sold under the name, London Evening News; nearly bankrupt, it was rescued by Alfred Harmsworth, who revitalized it by appealing to the popular taste.  Within a year, its circulation had grown to 160,000 and was returning handsome profits.
In the beginning of the twentieth century, the paper was owned by Canadian tycoon Lord Beaverbrook, who also owned the Daily Express. At this time there were fourteen evening newspapers in London, but one by one they merged until there were three left. The Star merged with the Evening News in 1960, and the two remaining papers were great rivals until they shared ownership in the 1980s. In 1980, the Evening News was incorporated into the Evening Standard, leaving London with one single evening paper. The Evening News name still appears on the Standard's masthead.
I wrote a separate article on the history of The Evening News. Maybe someone who knows something could write the history of the Evening Standard.
--Gemena 18:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So far as I remember the Evening Standard was merged into the Evening News to create the New Standard, which eventually retitled itself the Evening Standard.  The EN, NS and new ES were all printed on the same Daily Mail presses in Fleet Street -- my grandfather was an electrician on the presses.  Surely this article should at least make some reference to the Evening News? Mrstonky (talk) 21:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, of course it should be mentioned. My point was that the old text was so misleading that it was not worth keeping. As I said, someone should completely rewrite the history section. Naturally including also the merger with the Evening News. --Gemena (talk) 08:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: History section full of nonsense

message: It is seems that as of yesterday the paper has been renamed the "London Evening Standard":  almost-instinct 08:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New name 

message: I wonder if we can get a third party source that they are truly politically independent now? MRSC (talk) 15:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Political independence

message: This article would be improved by having more recent front cover as its main picture, to reflect the change in name and format the page has undergone since 2009. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 18:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front cover 

message: I suggest it's a regional newspaper. This distinguishes it from papers which circulate in just parts of London. Before it became free-of-charge, it could be bought in many parts of the south-east and further afield.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 15:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: local

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support. A newspaper's name is determined by what appears on its masthead. This newspaper's masthead has read "London Evening Standard" since 2009 so that is now the official name of the paper. -- Alarics (talk) 07:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Hi everyone. I'm hoping someone who is more familiar with this newspaper can help me. I'm trying to track down an article that appeared in the Evening Standard on June 5, 1997 (It was an interview with Jean Paul Gaultier). I note that the official website lists an archive that appears to go all the way back to January 1997, but clicking on the link for June 5 1997 shows no content for that date (as does many other dates in 1997/1998). Is this archive a work in progress, with older articles being added all the time? I can't imagine any other reason why 1997 is listed in the archives yet all the dates I checked for that year remain blank. Or is there another reason there is no content in older archives? Alternatively, is there somewhere else I can view old articles from this newspaper? A paid site for example? I would be more than happy to pay for this particular article. Anyway thanks in advance for any clarification/help you can provide. Freikorp (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the London Evening Standard has yet been digitised for pre-1998. According to my own notes, 1998 onwards was available at Newsbank (requires local library card) but seems to have disappeared from there, for reasons not explained. Pending further digitisation progress (which is by no means a certainty), it may be that your only recourse is to visit the British Library at St Pancras, which has it on microfilm (shelfmark NRM MLD24). -- Alarics (talk) 14:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Many thanks for your prompt reply. It's quite annoying that the archive lists all dates up to the beginning on 1997, yet seems to stop actually having content in 1998.  I can only hope that the reason 1997 is listed with no content on their website is because they are planning to add content in the (hopefully not too distant) future :). Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 15:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessing archives 

message: I was wondering if someone should update the circulation of the paper considering it is now seeing 800,000+ copies read, 200,000 more than currently stated. Thanks, Fred 00:31 GMT 31/3/15  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.120.121.150 (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  circulation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have two suggestions as I believe this is a crucial thing for people to know about the newspaper:
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The London Evening Standard (simply the Evening Standard before May 2009) is a local, free daily newspaper, published Monday to Friday in tabloid format in London.
The London Evening Standard (simply the Evening Standard before May 2009) is a local, free daily newspaper, published Monday to Friday in tabloid format in London. It is currently edited by the former Conservative politician, George Osbourne.
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The newspaper's editor is the former politician, George Osborne
The newspaper's editor is the former Conservative politician, George Osborne.
--195.195.80.209 (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making more prominent the fact that ES is edited by a recently resigned Conservative politician 

message: I imagine it will be necessary to add something about the deals with Google, Uber, etc.: https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/james-cusick/george-osborne-s-london-evening-standard-promises-positive-news-coverage-to-uber-goo.
Plenty of other sources as well.  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the section on the financial sponsorship deal as the only source quoted is a primary source. Lmatt (talk) 23:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

text: I have readded the section with more neutral wording and referring to a secondary source. Lmatt (talk) 23:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Evening Advertorial? 

message: *https://www.channel4.com/programmes/boris-the-lord-the-russian-spy-dispatches
:....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 05:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  KGB in UK media? 

message: The Website section presently calls it This Is London but going to www.standard.co.uk shows the web pages say 'The Standard' at the top, and I can see no trace of This Is London. Does this simply need updating? I do not know enough of the history to do it myself. FrankSier (talk) 15:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The website