Talk:Bohemian (demonym)

message: I am 1/8 Bohemian, and would love to know more about it, which this page does not do much of.  Such as, what other ethnic groups are Bohemians close genetically to?  I mean, i know some Czechs and some Bohemians, and, from what I have seen, Bohemians seem to be different, more tan, I guess.  Just wondering if anyone here knew.  Oh, and whoever said, "the lifestyle article should be here, not an old expression for a kind of people", I could not disagree with you more. People are ethnicly Bohemians, and if "Italian" got the same freak connotation as Bohemian, the page on Italian should not be devoted to that, but to the ethnicity.  Only problem is, there are more Italians, and Italy is still a country.  Bohemia is more defenseless, but still deserving of its own article--but it's too generic, I want more of the culture which I long for yet know so little about.
:Not sure about your comment regarding Bohemians being tan; the Bohemian side of my family is very pale and has red hair.  (We took our last name from the region, apparently as well). Peyna 02:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can hardly speak about differences between Czechs and Bohemians, because Czechs are Bohemians. --Zik2 (talk) 12:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any more Bohemian info? 

message: I am 1/4 Bohemian and it is hard to find anything on my families past. This page as helped me learn about so much yet the one thing that I am really curious about it doesn't have. Bohemia is a culture and for some people their ethinic background. I even think people would find that the Bohemian language is almost extinct but not yet. There are still a few that speak it, but they came from the bad clan that gave the rest of the  Bohamians such trouble. Ya there was two clans, one that just did what everyday people do and the other that was theaves, fortune tellers, and prostitutes. The sad part is the only people who know of this are the ones with this ancestry. It would be nice if you guys could give more information on the heritage. 
And about being tan, my family is pale as well. I have been told by others that my features resemble Bohemians which are dark blone- lite brown hair, hazel green eyes, rosey pink cheeks, and fair skin. 67.142.130.26 09:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Bohemian's (the ethnicity) should be turned in to it's own page, just like any of the other groups of people. Bohemian's still recognize themselves as such before considering themselves as Czech's from my understanding. JanderVK  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JanderVK (talk • contribs) 04:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the bohemian people 

message: I've heard from various sources (please back me up) that the origins of what we currently define as bohemian came from accusations of the catholic church against the "bohemians" or members of the hussite revolution. This was done in order to defame the movement. Aspects of this propaganda included "wildness" or "orgies" or a generally unconventional lifestyle that was seperate from and against the catholic church. Was this propaganda the origin of our current usage of the word Bohemian? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.192.252.130 (talk) 02:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the connection between the word "bohemian" and catholic propaganda 

message: Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich"
::you should anedote it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.129.203 ([[User 
talk:72.222.129.203|talk]]) 00:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Reference for Hindenburg's nickname for Hitler... 

message: I've removed the content about modern bohemianism.  Readers can find the more comprehensive bohemianism article through the disambig page. Superm401 - Talk 05:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: I just found out I was bohemian I have lite blond hair and green eyes and am tan.  My grandmothers last name was hrasky.  We also had five other races.  Just here tring to learn more about who and where I came from.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.192.253 (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  bohemian 

message: I have always known I was Bohemian on my Father's side, I just don't know how much.  I am curious to know more about the culture.  My last name was shortened when my ancester's came here.  I am curious to know who has the username Broz?  That is my maiden name.  I also have dark blonde hair and hazel eyes.  I have fair complection but my younger sister has an olive skin tone.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrozD (talk • contribs) 23:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your last name was probably Brož (in English it means brooch). It is a common name here in Czechia. It was probably changed to Broz to better fit abroad. Jirka.h23 (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Always Bohemian 

message: The article is full of disgusting Czech nationalism and should be deleted completely, since there´s a much better article about Bohemia, which explains things much better. A Bohemian is simply someone from the former kingdom of Bohemia. A Bohemian is not necessarily a Czech, he/she may be German or even Hungarian or Pole. The kingdom of Bohemia was part of Holly Roman empire till 1806, later part of the Habsburg empire. Since about 1300 it was ruled by kings of German descent and with German elite and a German speaking majority in the west, including Prague. When the Habsburg empire collapsed in 1918, the western part of Bohemia with a vast German speaking majority was forced into a now Czech dominated state, although these people voted to become a part of the new Austrian state. This lead to the Munich Treaty in 1938, when Germany received the German speaking parts of Bohemia and a little later conquered all of Bohemia. After the German defeat in WW2 the Czechs committed a genocide at the German speaking population in Bohemia, with the consent of the Allies. 188.98.255.119 (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Anonymious german nonsens--Posp68 (talk) 11:00, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

text: A Czech is not necessarily Bohemian, but a Czech he can be Bohemian, Moravian or Silesian. And you're wrong, since 1306 it was not ruled only by kings of German descent, what about Charles IV, John the Blind, Wenceslaus IV, Sigismund, George of Podebrady, and others? The Sudetenland has been part of the Czech kingdom for a whole millennium and the Germans came to it as immigrants since the 13th century. After the Battle of White Mountain, German language was made equal with Czech, but the Germans never had a majority in Prague. Jirka.h23 (talk) 09:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

text: What is the point of your post? So they are both Bohemians, that doesn't mean she can't call herself a Czech. Jirka.h23 (talk) 09:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationalism? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved disambiguation page to base name and moved the article to Bohemian (demonym), since that was suggested by one user and approved by another. Several expressed no great concern with what the article was titled so long as it was moved. There was one objection to the proposed title. I agree with Uanfala and No such user that "demonym" describes its contents accurately. (closed by non-admin page mover)  Srnec (talk) 01:26, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I attempted to start to fixing the incoming links to the moved dab but hit a snag.  Please can someone explain to me (preferably in words of one syllable) the difference between Bohemianism and Bohemian style?  Thanks, Certes (talk) 02:59, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a lot of overlap; but bohemians are generally broke, whereas people who live in bohemian style have money. Narky Blert (talk) 06:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Compare the lifestyle of actual shepherds and milkmaids with French aristocrats at Versailles pretending to be ones. Narky Blert (talk) 06:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the ping. . Narky Blert (talk) 13:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 24 April 2021