Talk:Roberta Williams

message: *http://i2.wp.com/lmuits.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/roberta.jpeg
*http://www.oocities.org/petter_holmberg/robertabio.html
*http://www.sierragamers.com/roberta-williams
*http://www.sierragamers.com/hackers-1984
*https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/christopher_scott_williams_born_1979_14282988
*http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/index.php/site/interviews/198/
*https://www.womenartandtechnology.net/blog/2017/4/13/roberta-heuer-williams
*https://bartonfuneral.com/2013/04/10/john-j-heuer/
*https://murdercube.com/files/Computers/Heroes%20of%20the%20Computer%20Revolution/Hackers%20%28Stephen%20Levy%29/part3/chapter14.html
*https://books.google.com/books?id=mShXzzKtpmEC&pg=PA381&lpg=PA381&dq=Roberta
*http://www.newsweek.com/sierras-queen-still-top-her-game-170470
*http://guysfromandromeda.com/ken-williams-joins-chris-pope-live-interview-6812/
*http://www.8bitrocket.com/2012/04/02/pong-developement-challenge-inspiration-a-trip-to-sierra-online-ground-zero/
*https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/SteveFulton/20120815/176020/Pong_Returns__Developer_Diary_Post_For_The_Atari_Pong_Indie_Developer_Challenge.php
*http://www.nbcuniversalarchives.com/nbcuni/clip/51A17175_s01.do?assetId=clip_35754451
::1983 NBC news segment featuring an interview with Ken and Roberta Williams
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G3Kdbc7EoY
::Let's Play King's Quest (Tandy 1000) - YouTube
*http://mocagh.org/loadpage.php?getcompany=sierra&npp=100&start=0&series=All
*http://www.kensblog.com/2015/08/20/KensBlog--The-wrong-way-to-start-a-day
*https://books.google.com/books?id=8WRlGuyFyRwC&pg=PT3&lpg=PT3&dq=Roberta
*http://www.lainenooney.com/research-blog/dissexcerpt
*http://www.lainenooney.com/1/post/2013/08/originalmysteryhousead.html
*http://www.lainenooney.com/research-blog
*https://sierranewsonline.com/major-video-games-developed-in-oakhurst/
*http://gamestudies.org/1302/articles/nooney
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epicT3nhu9g
*http://www.lainenooney.com/research-blog/sierra-ad-2
*http://www.steinhardt.nyu.edu/scmsAdmin/uploads/009/259/CV_Nooney_Master.pdf
*http://gamecenter.nyu.edu/before-we-were-gamers-roberta-williams-sierra-on-line-and-how-we-write-women-into-video-game-history/
*http://www.lainenooney.com/research-blog/a-tale-of-two-ceos-digging-the-sierra-and-broderbund-archive-collections-at-the-strong-museum-of-play
::Ken and Roberta Williams Collection at The Strong Museum of Play
*https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/12/the-odd-history-of-the-first-erotic-computer-game/383114/
*http://allowe.com/images/SoftpornCover.jpg
*http://allowe.com/al/interviews.html
*https://mic.com/articles/182786/women-in-video-games-history-roberta-williams-lori-cole-sierra-games
*https://www.nordhavn.com/rally/underway/meetcrews.htm
64.175.41.122 (talk) 07:41, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  references 

message: As long as coronavirus doesn't ruin it, with Roberta being honored at GDC this next month, and GDC publishing all their photos for free use, we should finally have a good photo for her. This is be around March 18th. --Masem (t) 18:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo op 

message: *"with husband and game developer Ken Williams" this phrasing can mislead readers into thinking that her husband and Williams were different people
*There's heavy citation of the self-published book Not All Fairy Tales Have Happy Endings: The Rise and Fall of Sierra On-Line. which is unlikely to be considered a high-quality reliable source at FAC
*May 1980 issue of MICRO it would help to provide a link or at least some explanation
*color graphics and dithering
*"had to layoff the majority of their team" confusing, since you never mention them hiring a team 
*"The series was also known for Williams' unique style of storytelling, as well its advancements in graphics and technology." This sentence really does not carry any information unless you elaborate on how Williams' style differed from other games at the time. You already mention technological breakthroughs earlier
*"She would recall that the female protagonist likely increased the audience for the series, a creative decision that she seeded by introducing Rosella in the previous game." I removed this because you don't otherwise mention the previous intallment and because it matters more whether this belief is correct (the next sentence indicates it was) rather than whether Williams believed it.
*"a gender dynamic that has been credited to Williams' voice as a female author" I removed this but if it's added back it should say who credits it per MOS:AWW (t · c) buidhe 04:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: * Thanks for the changes! I made a few more to fix some of the issues you identified. Some of this stuff will definitely resurface if and when I nominate it for a featured article. I'm pretty sure the Ken Williams book will be considered reliable for statements from the subjects themselves, as a self-published source. But I'll tag User:Indrian just in case they have any perspective to add. Thanks again. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not All Fairy Tales Have Happy Endings: The Rise and Fall of Sierra On-Line is an autobiography by Ken Williams, husband of the subject as well as her collaborator on several projects and co-founder of the company the work was done for. The subject also contributed her recollections to the book, which is acknowledged in its text. The book is therefore permissible as a self-published source specifically for the first-hand material on their lives and for Ken's knowledge of the history of the company and its products. Indrian (talk) 15:58, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: * Thanks for checking in. This might come up again if it goes to FA eventually so we can revisit it then, if need be. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes on copyedit 

message: Focusing on her husband feels sexist and obscures her own achievements 2601:41:4301:8C80:50D9:E7D0:7E5:A709 (talk) 00:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First photo in Early life and career section should be of subject 

message: Just making a few notes on sources that have surfaced since her return to game development
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Shooterwalker (talk) 16:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newer sources