Talk:Norfolk Southern Railway

message: I should have a map up on Monday. Kmusser 15:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Kmusser 16:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Just thinking that some of these yards aren't really "major". For example, Calumet Yard, IL does mostly local work in the Chicago area - NS does the majority of its classification at Elkhart, IN for the Chicago area. Also, there's Bluefield and Williamson - while these are major, they deal mainly with unit coal trains, not "classification" of normal trains. Maybe rework this list? Danny252 (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Yards 

message: Don't see why this is controversial. The accident happened. The results happened. NS is being taken to court. No presumption either way.
Anon-liberal (talk) 20:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Odd, but no one else bothered to read the articles and compare against the text added in the topic.  The links are dead now anyway - perhaps someone will repair both links and content. Tedickey (talk) 11:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Interestingly, Federal "common carrier" law requires railroads to transport toxic materials.  In a letter from Norfolk Southern (NS) Corporation Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer C.W. Moorman to Mr. Brent Blackwelder, President, Friends of the Earth, Moorman states (regarding Toxic Inhalation Hazard chemicals) "Norfolk Southern neither manufactures them nor transports them for its own use. Moreover, Norfolk Southern does not make enough money transporting these commodities to justify the risks the federal government requires us to take." See "Hazardous Materials Shipping" section of this NS web page.  Furthermore, the NTSB investigation of this accident concluded that "the crewmembers were rushing to complete their work and secure their train before reaching their (federally mandated) hours-of-service limits".  It is interesting that the Federal government (ICC) forced NS to transport the material, the unintended consequences of safety inspired "hours-of-service limits" were identified by the Federal government (NTSB) as a contributing factor to the accident, and then a then a third branch of the Federal government (EPA) chose to sue NS for the accident it caused both directly (by forcing railroads to haul toxic materials at a net loss) and indirectly (by causing rail workers to hurry to avoid breaking the work limit laws). While it's unclear what the outcome of the EPA suit was at the time of this writing, the EPA seemed to conclude that workers hurrying to beat the clock set by Federal law need even more rules. The most controversial aspect of this article is that "Anon-liberal" and other supporters of government sprawl refuse to recognize that over-regulation can be every-bit as fatal as under-regulation - as illustrated in this case. Marknoble (talk) 08:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Environmental Record 

message: Someone keeps adding "RBMN" to the list of NS reporting marks. RBMN is the reporting mark for the Reading & Northern Railroad, and per their web site, they are not and have never been part of NS.
—BMRR (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RBMN 

message: i am apologizing. I have been the one adding rbmn. i miss read what the reporting marks are. rbmn does interchange with ns, but is not part of ns. i think there should be a section where you could put stuff like that. Railroads that connect with the railroad, but are not apart of it in anyway. it does connect with ns and it says so right here 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Blue_Mountain_and_Northern_Railroad
and here
http://www.rbmnrr.com/map.shtml
in the legend on the map.
I do apologize about this mistake.
bkopicz3 member wiki
:Well, the Reading_Blue_Mountain_and_Northern_Railroad topic does indicate that it connects to N/S - but keeping in mind that N/S is a much larger railroad, there's going to be a comparably large list of small railroads that it connects with - probably not worth cluttering up the N/S topic with. Tedickey (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a list?  (All I noticed in a quick check were the templates for class-I and class-III railroads which cover many more railroads). Tedickey (talk) 10:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RBMN sorry 

message: First off I would like to say that i changed one thing on the page. The Yard Count was 26, but 27 yards are listed. So i changed the number.
Secondly, I really do think that Reading Pa should be up there for a yard. Reading does indeed have a norfolk southern yard, and it should be counted.
Do not believe me that reading has a yard? Follow these directions for the proof.
1)go to maps.live.com
2) type in the "LIVE SEARCH MAPS" bar
930 Pike St, Reading, PA
3)following those directions exactly should bring the reading yard into the screen.
Thank You and have a nice night:)
one additional note: you must be in "birds eye view" or "Aerial" mode to see it
--Kopicz (talk) 01:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pictures can be out of date - I'd look for something mentions the current status of the yard. This for instance doesn't tell me that it's currently in use. Tedickey (talk) 13:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yards 

message: Picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NS_8921_GE_C40-9W.jpg
says it is from Wyomissing Pa. This is not so. I know for a fact that it is not from Wyomissing Pa.
I am from Wyomissing Pa(AREA).
--Kopicz (talk) 03:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well... I got the description from your last edit.  Go ahead and make it better. Tedickey (talk) 10:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: This is what I was looking at. Tedickey (talk) 10:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture Mis-Placed 

message: I am shocked that the NS 999 is not mentioned anywhere in the article. I am not adding it myself cause when ever i add something, i get a comment back that it was not wiki-fied or to the editors standards. References are
http://www.nscorp.com/nscportal/nscorp/Media/News%20Releases/2009/batteries.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.207.34 (talk) 01:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry you've been discouraged but please keep trying. I've added it at Norfolk_Southern_Railway#Air_quality_and_fuel_efficiency. Biscuittin (talk) 10:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shocked! 

message: I added a to my knowledge full list of inter model terminals as per nscorps website NS INTERMODEL TERMINALS
If you see any problems with this please discus it. Thank You --Kopicz 03:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  added 

message: I found a couple of RailPictures.net photos of that NS Locomotive painted up to look like a New York Central Railroad locomotive. I know they can't be used here, but it'd be great to find more Norfolk Southern heritage locomotives, and make some galleries of them. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  05:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heritage locomotives 

message: The link purporting to demonstrate that N/S has routes in Canada shows only the lower-48 with an indication of intermodal (e.g., trucking) connections to Canada.  The other source only demonstrates that it has a license to do business in Canada. TEDickey (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  no Canada in map 

message: WHat about PRR????  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camaro fan 1 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  PRR???????  

message: I have removed this sentence until it can be supported by citation: "These locomotives immediately became wildly popular among railfans as well as the general public." No matter how much railfans might like NS' Heritage Units, it is extremely dubious that more than a tiny fraction of the general public is even aware of them. PRRfan (talk) 04:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with you, it would have been better to have some citations and references to railfan blogs ot web sites which cover some of the popularity, and perhaps if the original editor who proposed that commentary would rework the text and provide a new edit it would look more informative. Damotclese (talk) 16:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "wildly popular" Heritage Units 

message: Can we change the word "takeover" to either "take over" or to "acquire?" The word "takeover" without the space has a different meaning than the words "take over," however both have a connotation of hostile intent. "Acquire" would be more appropriate since it's corporate multinational merging where presumably there are no actual combatants. What do you think? Damotclese (talk) 18:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed takeover to acquire, however I prefer either takeover or take over. I can't find the difference in meaning between takeover and take over. If you can provide information about the difference between the two pronunciations that will help. Granthew (talk) 17:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Take over" is a verb phrase, "takeover" is a noun. So one attempts to take over a company, which can be described as a takeover of that company. oknazevad (talk) 05:26, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ? Canadian Pacific attempts to takeover Norfolk Southern ? 

message: Well the Canadian Pacific/Norfolk Southern merger saga ended last week.  Should a new page be created that is devoted to CP's attempt to merge with NS? It was as noteworthy an effort as the failed Santa Fe/Southern Pacific merger.TH1980 (talk) 03:02, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there should be, yes. It was a significant enough effort, but also I expect that the effort will be taken up again in the future, give it another year, two years and I expect they will attempt the merger again. Damotclese (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The CP stuff was removed because I changed the NSR article back to where it was before I edited the page. If you want to add the CP stuff back again, well then just find a previous version of the NSR article and just copy and paste it to the current version of the article and that's it. Granthew (talk) 04:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.TH1980 (talk) 22:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should there be a separate page devoted to Canadian Pacific's attempt to merge with Norfolk Southern 

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message: In the first line of the article it states "The Norfolk Southern Railway (reporting mark NSC)".
<This is incorrect>
The AAR reporting mark for the Norfolk Southern is "NS".
NSC is the AAR reporting mark for National Steel Car.
NSC is used for reporting  "Norfolk Southern" stock sales on the NY Stock Exchange, it is NOT used as a reporting mark on NS RR rolling stock.
139.55.177.81 (talk) 02:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norfolk Southern reporting marks 

message: In the"General Freight Classification Yards" part of the article, I tried to enter a hyper link to a new article for NSRR " Spencer Yard" in Linwood NC.
I submitted an article titled " Spencer Yard".
An editor named Twister Sister rejected the article stating that: 
Spencer Yard is not notable and that any mention should be a part of the article for the town of Spencer, North Carolina.
Spencer Yard is NOT in Spencer North Carolina! it is ten + miles away it is not even in the same County.
In the main NSRR article under "General Freight Classification Yards" lists click-ons for Enola, Conway, and Luther Yards.
Spencer Yard is the biggest NSRR yard in NC.
Why is Spencer Yard not notable when these other yards have articles?
There also is an article titled "Linwood Yard" in Wikipedia for this same facility.
LINWOOD is the name of the area of Davidson County NC where this yard is located,
"Linwood Yard" is NOT the name of this yard. 
"Spencer Yard" is the official NSRR name for this facility.
Could the  "Linwood Yard" article be renamed "Spencer Yard", updated, and have a click-on installed in the  "General Freight Classification Yards" section of the  main NSRR article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.55.177.81 (talk) 19:04, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  NS Spencer Yard 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello, Connor here from Norfolk Southern. From a routine audit of the page, we've identified the following items for updating:
"Norfolk Southern is the namesake and leading subsidiary of the Norfolk Southern Corporation, based in Norfolk, Virginia." should become "based in Atlanta.
In "History", we believe the move to Atlanta should be added. 
Appropriate source material here: 
https://www.hok.com/news/2022-06/norfolk-southerns-new-headquarters-featured-in-interior-design-magazine/ 
https://www.usgbcgeorgiaawards.org/
https://www.ajc.com/life/new-norfolk-southern-hq-designed-with-future-in-mind/BJ7EOBQIUNEWHBKOKV7JNL5IFE/
In 'Company Officers,' Alan Shaw is President & CEO. Here are additional company officers with their sources.
Annie Adams, EVP and Chief Transformation Officer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/annie-adams-ba7b701b8/; https://www.ajc.com/life/new-norfolk-southern-hq-designed-with-future-in-mind/BJ7EOBQIUNEWHBKOKV7JNL5IFE/; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/ns-unveils-new-headquarters-in-atlanta/)
Cindy Sanborn, EVP and Chief Operating Officer (https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/norfolk-southern-names-cindy-sanborn-chief-operating-officer-updated/; https://www.railwayage.com/safety/for-house-rail-subcommittee-an-earful-on-safety/; https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-launching-operational-plan-for-intermodal-and-bulk) 
Mark George, EVP and Chief Financial Officer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-george-50906215/; https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-funds-nearly-500-million-in-sustainability-projects; https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/norfolk-southern-working-to-alleviate-crew-shortages-and-improve-service/)
Ed Elkins, EVP and Chief Marketing Officer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-elkins-733b726/; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/for-ns-changes-at-the-top/; https://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/article/Supply-chain-changes-prompt-Norfolk-Southern-to-alter-its-operating-course-sharpen-customer-focus--66050)
Nabanita Nag, EVP and Chief Legal Officer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabanita-chaterjee-nag-b2813113/; https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/norfolk-southern-elevates-nabanita-nag-to-chief-legal-officer; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/nag-morris-wong-move-up-at-ns/)
In "Awards & Wins" here are some recent awards:
Railway Age’s 25 Under 40 2022
Cassandra Mullee, Director-Chicago Transportation Coordination Office
(2022)
Herbert Smith, Regional Executive Director, Government Relations
(2021)
https://www.railwayage.com/news/25-under-40/
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2022 Green Bond of the Year
https://www.environmental-finance.com/content/awards/environmental-finances-bond-awards-2022/winners/green-bond-of-the-year-corporate-norfolk-southern.html
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Railway Age’s 10 Most Influential Industry Leaders
Alan Shaw, President and CEO (2022)
Annie Adams, EVP & Chief Transformation Officer (2021)
https://www.railwayage.com/news/railway-age-10-most-influential-industry-leader-nominations-open-2/
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RT&S’ 10 Under 40
JaQuinton Braswell, ATC System Compliance & Safety (2022)
John R. Fleps, AVP Engineering – MW&S (2021)
https://www.rtands.com/track-construction/rts-selects-2022-10-under-40-list/
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American Chemistry Council’s Sustainability Leadership Awards
Locomotive Fuel Efficiency (2022)
https://www.americanchemistry.com/chemistry-in-america/chemistry-sustainability/sustainability-leadership-awards
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International Railway Journal Women in Rail Awards
Annie Adams, EVP & Chief Transformation Officer (2022)
https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/irj-women-in-rail-awards-2022-part-3/
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Railway Track & Structures – Women in Engineering Awards
Cherita Hunter, Regional Manager C&S (2022)
https://www.rtands.com/track-construction/2022-rts-women-in-railroad-engineering-list-is-revealed/
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In "Environmental Record"
Norfolk Southern's sustainability efforts are helmed by Josh Raglin, Chief Sustainability Officer. Raglin is respected in the environmental sector for a variety of things, including NS's work at the Brosnan Forest. 
In May 2022, Norfolk Southern reported the allocation of $496 million in net proceeds from its green bonds to fund projects including:
$275.6 million for DC to AC locomotive power conversions (with more than 950 modernizations to be completed by 2025).
$10.9 million for locomotive fuel management, directly supporting our science-based target to reduce carbon emissions intensity by 42% by 2034.
$1.4 million for a GP34 ECO yard unit
$99.5 million for intermodal facility improvements, including hybrid and fully-electric cranes at many facilities. 
$97.8 million for the rail, ties and ballast program which recycles 100% of used rail and crossties.
$4.3 million for shore line restoration and stream/wetland ecosystems restorations.
Sources: https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/ns-issues-green-bond-project-report/; https://www.dcvelocity.com/articles/54898-norfolk-southern-aims-to-make-rail-transport-greener; https://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/article/Greening-up-Norfolk-Southern-aspires-to-raise-the-sustainability-ante--64149
In "Locomotives" there is information missing regarding the modernization program in partnership with Wabtec, which aims to modernize 950 locomotives by 2025.
Sources:
https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/wabtec-to-modernize-330-locomotives-for-norfolk-southern/
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-wabtec-to-modernize-300-ns-locomotives NS Connor Spielmaker (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've corrected the sentence about the headquarters as that was an obvious inaccuracy, and moved duplicate material about the headquarters move from the lead section into the history section. Will evaluate the other things here and add them if in my view they are encyclopedic. I'm assuming "Alana Shaw" is actually "Alan Shaw"? That's what I see on the NS website. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, and yes that's correct. Fixed that. Also - Shaw was appointed President in December 2021 and made CEO in May 2022 upon Squires's retirement. So Shaw should now read President & CEO. NS Connor Spielmaker (talk) 15:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variety of basic informational changes 

message: Without knowing the findings of the investigation of the Ohio derailment, experience indicates mechanical failure of one railcar, specifically failed wheel  bearing, wheel, or journal based on the sparks and flames seen on video. The root cause of this incident is lack of maintenance and/ or the absence of hot bearing detectors placed alongside the track intermittently. Such detectors are inexpensive and easily installed; it is a very common device that signals the Locomotive Engineer  that excessive heat is found and the train must stop and be expected. The type of brake system is irrelevant if this simple safety device is used. There is no excuse for not having this heat detector device that is commonplace on all railroads. 171.252.154.69 (talk) 13:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've seen, there were hotbox detectors, but they were spaced something like 30 miles apart and there seems to be no standard for how far apart to place them. I do think we need to be careful not to give undue weight to the braking system in the article (and not to give undue weight to the crash in general). It did not cause the crash and I've seen no indications it didn't perform as expected. "Post-Civil War era braking systems" is a nice headline, but the train air brake has remained fundamentally the same because Westinghouse's invention was genius and has proven very safe and effective at bringing massive hulks of steel to a safe stop. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ohio derailment 

message: NTSB to Open a Special Investigation into Norfolk Southern Railway’s Safety Practices and Culture (Mar 7 '23) Mapsax (talk) 23:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Investigation launched 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure)  (t/c) 00:32, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Norfolk Southern Railway →  – Since both the corporation and the railroad are covered in a single article and are largely the same thing, I would propose shortening the title to simply Norfolk Southern. We can use hatnotes to disambiguate any further meaning, if more are needed. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 8 March 2023 

message: This entity only ever existed on paper as part of the implementation of the Conrail split. There is very little that can be said about it, and that minimal information should be placed in the NS article, which is where the Pennsylvania Lines LLC rail lines went. I have proposed a merger of New York Central Lines LLC into CSX for the same reason. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Pennsylvania Lines LLC]] into [[Norfolk Southern Railway]] 

message: For the love of all that is holy, please stop making every single added sentence start with "on" or "in". It's poor writing and makes the article look terrible. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proseline