Talk:Menno Simons

message: I met a Mennonite on a bus once (from L.A. to San Francisco, for a demonstration). I also know of Mennonites active in political activism in the United States, regarding issues of peace and human rights, and I believe they are active in other countries too (Latin America?). This article only goes up through Menno's death. I would very much like to see more of it. The article on the German language reference a German dialect spoken by Mennonite communities in North America. This is a very interesting development. I hope someone adds to this. glasperlenspiel 00:11, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)
:There are a number of articles on the Mennonites and specific groups of Mennonites. For example - Old Order Mennonites. Perhaps you can find what you need in some of those articles. - Rlvaughn 01:02, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  modern-day mennonites 

message: This page seems kinda biased, but I'm not sure how to explain that. It's told in a storybook type way, and I just don't know about the objectivity of it all. Thoughts?
:Can you give us some specifics concerning objectivity to look at other than just the style? Thanks. - Rlvaughn 04:58, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, why no discussion of Munster? One of the major things that shaped his life, amd caused him to embrace and enforce pacifism among the Mennonites. It was also one of the incidents which shaped the outside perception of him, from Luther especially. It is ironic that he looked up to Luther, and then Lutherans would kill his disciples. Benkenobi18 20:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hmm... 

message: This article panders to positive point of view about Menno Simons.  It seems to be written for Mennonites by Mennonites.  There is no mention of Menno Simons controversial stands on shunning, or 'marital avoidance' (also known as spousal shunning) which are clearly outlined in his writings and also shown in many histories of the Mennonites.
It is also written in a story book style that seems more like a celebratory tome than a balanced NPOV description of who Menno Simons was and how he influenced the people who bear his name.  In my opinion it needs to be reviewed by editors who have no conflict of interests and who can help us develop an encyclopedia entry rather than another propaganda piece for Mennonites who see Menno Simons as a great leader.  For those non-Mennnonite editors who care to read Menno's writings themselves it is easily possible to see that he was no nice guy when it came to church punishments as he himself stated how harsh they were.  However all the quotes we see in this article to falsely paint Menno as such a nice guy are nauseating to me...one who has first-hand experience of Mennonite shunning.
I also believe this article needs to make more mention of Menno's core ideologies as they have had a profound effect on his followers down through the centuries.  We need to know who Menno was here rather than just bio facts.  We also need to know how Menno became so revered that his people still bear his name today.  This article seems little more than rote repetition of what Menno did rather than who he was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.111.96.53 (talk) 17:56, 25 October 2006
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*Actually this looks like something written for the Gospel Herald, a publication by Mennonites for Mennonites, biased and incorrect. Exactly like the Mennonite religion, false. Evidently Mennonites are fond of lies and errors which is why they follow a faith full of them. Menno Simons, who was a Catholic Priest (not a very good one) broke away from a church founded by Jesus Christ to start a church founded by Menno Simons. In doing this he becomes his own Christ. Peter was the leader of the early church in Rome, a fact that Mennonites like to shun, Peter was the first Bishop of Rome and hence the Pope. A fact Mennonites are often oblivious of, but then again, they follow a doctrine of simplicity, it's just unfortunate that this applies to the depth of their thought. This article does needs to be corrected as well as their religion. Notice the complete fear they have of adding a link to the Munster Rebellion, a bloody disgusting murder festival brought to you courtesy of the anabaptists. Seems Mennonites are to fearful to acknowledge the truth of their bloody past which of course the leader also had 16 wives. Do you see something wrong with the thoughts of these people? Menno Simons wanted to isolate himself from that event by preaching the doctrine of pacifism. My parents were Amish then Mennonites. They knew nothing more than the Mennonite faith, which is prerequisite for being a faithful Mennonite because any application of thought and reason brings to light how false and misleading this faith really is. Think of that Mennonites, your church was founded by a man, Menno Simons. You follow the doctrine of fallen man. All Catholics enjoy the fact that their church was founded by Jesus Christ. Timothyschrock (talk) 10:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: POV check

message: As a former mennonite who has studied the denomination, attended both a mennonite high school and College (Pacific College), and lived in the colonies in Paraguay, (not to mention a receiver of that notorious tradition of 'shunning'), I have to say that this article is very well done.  Check out the old paper encyclopedias like Brittania (if you can find one).  The articles about other middle-tier religious leaders are similarly written; basic information, kept to under 10,000 words.  I didn't find the article as propaganda, but basically informative.  If you want more info, its easy to look at the bibliography for more thorough texts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Side241 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The tag can be removed. ✤ JonHarder talk 21:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The article may just need some in-text-citations. And how about an Infobox, would that be good? Apart from that I do not see why this article shouldn't be considered for a GA status. Baldrick90 13:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think the Page is perfect 

message: I have added some works in a new bibliography section and I think this section should be expanded. Please feel free to contribute to the list. Rubenescio (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography 

message: Apparently "Simons" is a patronym. Not sure that it's not his own name as was stated. It doesn't seem to follow the pattern for Dutch patronyms as there's no "son" or "zoon" so that doesn't seem to hold water. Until there's clarification the article should using the naming MOS on Wikipedia: use the surname rather than given name after it is first mentioned. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  That seems like good material. Thanks. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

text: You may do so based on this discussion. Apply it consistently though. Thanks. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming convention: surname or patronym? 

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