Talk:Egyptian Premier League

message: Egyptian Premier League #54:
Etisalat Egyptian Premier League season 2010/2011:
Clubs:
(01) Al Ahly               (National Sporting Club)
(02) Al Zamalek            (Zamalek Sporting Club)
(03) Al Ismaily            (Ismaily Sporting Club)
(04) ENPPI                 (Engineering for the Petrolium and Process Industries)
(05) El-Shorta             (Ittihad El-Shorta)
(06) Petrojet              (The Egyptian petrol company)
(07) Misr El Makasa        (Misr Lel Makasa)
(08) Al Masry              (The Egyptian Sporting Club)
(09) El-Entag El-Harby     (The Military production ) 
(10) Haras Al Hodood       (Border Guards)
(11) El Gouna              (El Gouna FC)
(12) Al Gaish              (The Army Club)
(13) Smouha                (Smouha Sporting Club)
(14) Wadi Degla             (Wadi Degla FC)
(15) Al Mokawloon Al Arab  (The Arab Contractors Sporting Club)
(16) Al Itthad Al Skandary (Union Alexandria Soprting Club)
 
Starting Date: 20/04/2011
--Eng.kika 03:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

message: You removed a section on the Egyptian premier league page; simply removing a section without a valid reason is not only frustrating, but qualifies as Tendentious editing. Everyone is welcome to add/edit content, provided there are legitimate references. Simply deleting content in this manner is contrary to wiki guidelines. 
Regarding the validity of this content, there are good sources cited, including from The Atlantic, a well respected publication from the United States. Furthermore, there are more citations in this small section (5), than the rest of the entire article. 
To expand on one of the facts cited, there being 0 Christians in the league out of 540 players , this is not only improbable, but is a statistical impossibility if you believe that Christians face no prejudice. Egypt is comprised of 10-20% Christian, using 15% as the percentage Christian, the probability for there being 0 Christians out of 540 players if they were all chosen without partiality, is 8x10-39, or .0000000000000000000000000000000000008%. In other words, this is an impossibility. You cannot say that this is a "minor" issue. Given the stated facts, as well as the references cited, the existence of prejudice, or at least a bias, is beyond debate.
:Hello. I can see that you are clearly defending your opinion and trying to prove it right, but unfortunately it's not correct. We are not talking about sources and similar things here, we are talking about facts and reality. First of all, there was a Christian player playing for Al Nasr in the previous season, the 2017–18 season, called John "Manga" Nabil (Arabic: جون نبيل) who played almost all of the club's fixtures during that season; simply anyone who deserves to play will play. Second, there has been 9 different managers during the last 20 years who managed the Egypt national football team, 5 of them weren't from Egypt which obviously means they aren't Muslim. Don't you think that - if what you are trying to prove is actually right - the Egyptian Football Association wouldn't sign them and look for someone else instead? Think about it. Last thing, there has been many Christian players who presented the national team and played in the Egyptian Premier League, most famous are Hany Ramzy, who played for Al Ahly and represented Egypt in the 1990 FIFA World Cup; Ashraf Youssef, who won the 1993 African Cup of Champions Clubs with Zamalek and Helmy Toulan, who spent more than 9 years playing for Zamalek and managed many Egyptian Premier League teams. I really hope that all of this will make you reconsider your edits and realize that what you are doing is simply making readers think that religion discrimination exists in Egypt. I'll revert your edits in this period until something happens. Ben5218 (talk) 16:59, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello again. Well I don't know what else to say, we are just making a problem out of nothing. I don't think that any website would just start talking about why there isn't many Christian players in Egypt. Simply there isn't many Christian footballers, and that doesn't mean that there is a bias against Christians. And about that Atlantic article, it's content is just proving that terrorism in Egypt mainly targets Christians, and that was year ago. Terrorist group ISLL-SP claimed those attacks, and acts done by terrorists shouldn't be linked to what the people actually think of. Also, I believe that this should be done at the talk page of the article. Ben5218 (talk) 22:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

text: Well.. Being an Egyptian and a Muslim makes me know what I'm saying and what's going on. You have been saying that there's no Christian players in the national team right? If so, then what does this has to do with the team? Simply nothing. The manager picks who fits to be in the squad, if there is no Christian players who deserves to play in the squad, then it's not the manager's or the team's fault.
And if you want to talk about the numbers, then can you tell me why there is no Muslim players in England? Islam is the largest non-Christian religion in England, with more than %6 of the population of England are Muslims, yet there is no Muslim player in the national team. Also there has been many attacks on mosques in England, most recently in Birmingham a few weeks ago. Should we say that there there is a bias against Muslims in England because of that? Absolutely no.
Why would a country that hates Christians would sign foreign players who are Christian? Why would a country that hates Christians would make a Christian the assistant manager of the national team? You are just to convince yourself that you are right, while unfortunately you are not. Also, the articles you provided have nothing to do with football, just political things. Wikipedia isn't a place to put your opinion on, it's a place to share and add facts and useful things. Think about it. Ben5218 (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Defense of christian persecution section

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message: The "Challenges facing the Egyptian Premier League" section seems very much like personal opinion, especially the last paragraph with its if/then statement. Sourcing, anyone? Duncan1800 (talk) 06:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Challenges

message: Someone to update "Titles by club" in Runner-up Column, and to create new pages of older seasons. Thanks--Alexiulian25 (talk) 15:04, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of update this page needs 

message: Does anyone have any sources for the sponsorship stuff? I can't find anything about Vodafone or Etisalat or "Obour Land" who supposedly sponsored the 2016-17 season, according to that article and no other. I can only find sources claiming that Eksab became a new sponsor in 2022, but the league is still named "WE"? Maybe everyone is talking about a different type of sponsorship? The sponsorship part of the article has 0 references so I'm trying to clean that up Birdsgeek (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sponsorship