Talk:List of political parties in France

message: I've established minor parties section (as corresponding fr.wiki article has); the obvious reason for this move is that considering the plentitude of 'very minor' parties (Nouvelle Action Royaliste) in wikipedia, the table could become full after adding links to these minor ones. (some parties marked as 'minor' before, such as Mouvement pour la France, Rassemblement pour la France etc have their MPs and considerable influence, which Rassemblement démocrate and some communist groupings do not possess. These should have a special section now.) --Constanz - Talk 15:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved 3 of them to minor section. On Les Verts is relevant nowadays. David.Monniaux 17:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New classification introduced 

message: There probably needs to be a re-evaluation of major and minor parties. France is moving closer towards a 'two-party' system.
Legislative elections
1997 - RPR (15.7) + PS (23.5) = 39.2%
2002 - UMP (33.3) + PS (24.1) = 57.4%
2007 - UMP (39.5) + PS (24.7) = 64.2%
UMP & PS definitely the 2 major parties in France.
National Front (FN) is a borderline case (low legislative result in 2007 but reasonably good results in presidential 2007 and in 2002 presidential/legislative elections). Probably major? 
Communist Party
2002 - 4.8%
2007 - 4.3% 
Low popular vote, but manages to win a fair number of seats. I think they are now a minor party.
Les Verts (Greens) - minor
UDF/MoDem/NC
2002 - UDF - 4.9%
2007 - MoDem - 7.6% /NC - 2.4%
NC cannot be considered major party, having got only 2.4% of vote (even though they will win a fair number of seats). MoDem is a 'new' party contesting 1st election, so it might still be premature to make a call as to whether it is major or minor.Mrodowicz 21:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major & Minor parties 

message: Both Parties are not as "far-right" as the Front National or the MNR. They are both "govermental right" and connected to the UMP. You should change the declariations into "far-right" and "govermental-right".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.165.200 (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done it now. J-C V (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MPF & RPF 

message: "...although the National Front has had sizable successes" (from first section)
I think this needs to be defined. One of the most striking things about the Front National is actually its lack of success relative to its vote share. It's completely marginalised in the French party system and has hardly any representation at all, even at municipal level - all due to the French electoral system. Apart from Le Pen getting to the second round in the presidential election, the FN has achieved almost nothing electorally so we need to be specific about what we're citing as a success. It would be accurate to say the party has had some success in gaining support, but not in terms of electoral success (i.e. winning seats). 78.40.152.246 (talk) 13:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest adding some information on the popular vote tallies, into the table, which will help make this distinction clear.  Right now there is just a binary mention that PS/PRG has "Head of state 1/1" and that by contrast LR-fka-UMP has "Head of state 0/1" which is truthful but does not give the full picture.  It would be preferable to say something like this:  PS/PRG head of state 10.3m votes (winner 29%), LR/UMP head of state 9.8m votes (2nd 27%), FN head of state 6.4m votes (3rd 18%), FG aka PCF/FASE/PG head of state 4.0m votes (4th 11% shared among multiple parties), MoDem head of state 3.3m (5th 9%), EELV head of state 0.8m (6th 2.3%), DLR head of state 0.6m (7th 1.8%), and so on for the other parties.  In addition to helping highlight the discrepancy between popular-vote success as distinct from electoral success, this will also be more informative about the degree of electoral success each party achieved in recent presidential elections.  These numbers are pulled from wikipedia, so please don't rely on them to be correct, check with a reliable source please before inserting :-) 47.222.203.135 (talk) 11:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Front National

message: I ended up on this page today while watching the French news (France 2 Journal du 20h) and wanting to check a party acronym (DLR). Eventually I discovered they changed their name last year to Debout la France (DLF), but this wasn't anywhere on the English Wikipedia. I've added this information to the party article, but I still doubt I would have found it had it already been there. As a general principle, details like that belong in dedicated articles, but I still think it would be useful here so I'll add it to the table. If it's considered clutter here then remove it, but if all you have to go on is the acronym the information is not very accessible elsewhere. --☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 02:11, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Same problem with UMP versus the modern incarnation LR.  If there is not enough room in the table for the acronyms, it is probably best to at least have a footnote that gives the historical acronyms for the predecessor or quasi-associated parties.  Footnotes are also the way to go, if the connection needs a prose-explanation rather than a simple "fka UMP" or similar shorthand notation.  47.222.203.135 (talk) 11:48, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate names/acronyms 

message: Substituted at 22:16, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I don't believe the article explains what the distinction is between the number of MEPs listed in the 'Parliamentaries' column, and the sometimes-different number of MEPs listed in the 'European Affiliation' column.  For the three largest parties, PS/PRG with 12, LR/UMP with 19, and FN with 23, there is no difference in the figures (i.e. for FN they have 23 parliamentaries and also 23 EU affiliates), but for at least two of the smaller parties the numbers differ.  
* MoDem, MEP parliamentaries: 5 / 74, European Democratic Party MEP EU-affiliates: 9 / 754. 
* EELV, MEP parliamentaries: 14 / 74, European Green Party MEP EU-affiliates: 47 / 754. 
I'm guessing this is because EELV and MoDem are the local-to-France branches of multinational parties that also have branches in other EU countries?  But the article here does not say, one way or the other.  Or possibly, the MoDem and EELV figures are out-of-sync because one column is from the most recent election results, and another column has outdated election results from a past cycle?  If somebody who knows more about this can please add some explanatory text (and if necessary correct the figures to be the latest), that would be appreciated.  I would myself, but I don't know enough about French politics to do so confidently.  47.222.203.135 (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  difference between MEP-count and European-affiliation-MEP-count 

message: Hello,
several current parliamentary parties are lacking in this list.  
They should be added.
What are your views on this issue?
Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 14:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been neglected for a while – I think I'll just turn it into a plain list with a few composition tables like the French Wikipedia one when I have more time. Mélencron (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: France unie is a political party with an article on French Wikipedia. However, there is some doubt about its addition as it has a  quite anomalous structure for a party. 
Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There are numerous regional parties with parliamentary representation. How should they be added to the list? 
*À gauche en Guyane
*Archipel demain
*Ensemble pour construire
*Guadeloupe unie, solidaire et responsable
*Mouvement populaire franciscain
*Parti socialiste guyanais
*Tapura huiraatira
*Calédonie ensemble
*Le Rassemblement
*Tavini huiraatira 
*Picardie debout
*Rassemblement Responsabilité Réussite
*Calédonie ensemble
*Parti communiste réunionnais
*Union démocratique bretonne
*Parti pour la libération de la Martinique
*Parti progressiste martiniquais 
*Rassemblement démocratique pour la Martinique
*Bâtir le pays Martinique 
*Pour La Réunion
*Fédération socialiste de la Martinique
*Rézistans Égalité 974
*Union pour la démocratie (Saint-Martin)
*Cap sur l'avenir
Sarcelles (talk) 20:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Pè a Corsica was missing on above list.Sarcelles (talk) 19:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: 
*France unie
*Pè a Corsica
*Picardie debout
*Union démocratique bretonne
are above mentioned regional respectively special parties, but active in Metropolitan France. I advocate their inclusion for the table Other nationwide represented parties.Sarcelles (talk) 20:45, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the French article, France Unie does not exist anymore.Sarcelles (talk) 09:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added Bâtir le pays Martinique and Fédération socialiste de la Martinique erroneously, 
Mouvement indépendantiste martiniquais is a parliamentary party.Sarcelles (talk) 09:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Union démocratique bretonne is not a parliamentary party, according to its French article.Sarcelles (talk) 20:53, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Paul Molac is a sitting deputy, but I think he joined LREM outright. Mélencron (talk) 14:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The French article on him says, he is a member of neither LREM nor UDB. http://www2.assemblee-nationale.fr/deputes/fiche/OMC_PA607619 doesn't have him as a party member either.Sarcelles (talk) 16:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, he left a few weeks ago it looks like. I don't think any of the other Breton deputies are UDB either as almost all are LREM. Mélencron (talk) 16:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

text: The parties mentioned above mostly are from non-metropolitan France. How should they be entered?
Sarcelles (talk) 11:28, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: All nationwide represented parties should be entered into the list.Sarcelles (talk) 17:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Force républicaine is a micro-partie. It has a French article. Probably it has numerous members. How should it be entered into the list?Sarcelles (talk) 17:18, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Reconquête (political party) is in parliament, too.Sarcelles (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Possible current omissions:
*National Centre of Independents and Peasants
*Radical Party of the Left
*Union of Democrats and Independents
*Union des Français de l'étranger
*La France Audacieuse
*Cap sur l'avenir
*Alliance solidaire des Français de l'étranger
*The Rally (New Caledonia)
*A here ia Porinetia
*Union pour la Savoie
*À gauche en Guyane
*Martinican Progressive Party
*Martinican Democratic Rally
*Mouvement populaire franciscain
*Left Party (France)
*Nouvelle force de Guyane
*Calédonie ensemble
*Union pour la démocratie
*Tapura huiraatira
*Liberté Écologie Fraternité
Sarcelles (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incompleteness 

message: I've noticed for the section Other nationwide represented parties there is an extra unused table column. I was wondering if anyone could please remove this? I've been trying to fix the issue myself but can't see how it is occurring. Helper201 (talk) 20:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor formatting/table issue

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