Talk:Aerial warfare

message: In the article under the Vietnam Section there is a passage that says ""Rolling Thunder saw the first combat use of electronic computers aboard PIRAZ ships to display comprehensive real-time aircraft position information for force commanders.[130]"".   I highly remember that in WWII there was a computer that calculated artillery trajectories and therefore this needs to be changed to either that Rolling Thunder was the first Aerial Combat use of computers or define First use in a way which excludes previously mentioned artillery computer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.70.216 (talk) 13:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First combat use of computers in Vietnam War? 

message: In my oppinion aerial warfare is a subset of military aviation. Military aviation is the larger set, because it includes operations in peacetimes. 81.221.156.100 13:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge into [[Military aviation]]

message: Just made a start on this. Please feel free to add. DJ Clayworth 19:38, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. I just started "air war" a few minutes ago!Doovinator 19:49, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: General Talk

message: This line was removed from the article. Everything about it is inaccurate including the link at the end. There are many web sites that are reporting inaccurate informatioin about hot air balloons in the Civil War.  The Union Army used gas filled balloons. 
::The Union Balloon Corps, with seven balloons including the Enterprise, was run by Thaddeus Lowe who developed a system of gas pumps to inflate his balloons in the field.
Magi Media 14:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect 

message: The line "The U-2 at its time was supposed to be invulnerable to defensive measures, due to its extreme altitude. It therefore came as a great shock when the Soviets downed one piloted by Gary Powers with a ground-to-air missile." is not really true.  The CIA (who operated the flights) and indeed Eisenhower, always knew that it was just a matter of time until the Soviets developed a method to shoot down the U-2s.  Even the manufacturer, Lockheed, expected it, and so began work on the next generation of spy planes (namely the Sr-71) in anticipation.  The "great shock" was that the timing of the downing, which cam just before the paris peace conference and contributed to the sense of cold war between the USA and USSR.  --Corinthian 00:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  U2 

message: I don't know if it's a coincidence or what, but the major balloon used in the Battle of Fleurus by the French was l'entreprenant. I'm sure Lowe read about it, and his wife Leontine was French. But their first big balloon they saved up for and built was the Enterprise which is the closest translation to the French name. Maybe not so coincidental.--Magi Media 01:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Enterprising 

message: * This article is totally missing the sense and use of miltary air lift capacity and capability as was so critical in so many theatures and conflicts (re: General William H. Tunner), not to mention airborne operations and today's air cavalry. // <B>Fra</B>nkB 20:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad coverage 

message: Does a floating Chinese lantern really qualify as aerial warfare?
139.133.7.38 04:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is used as a signaling device to friendly troops—yes, but I haven't found any evidence for this use. In  this version of the article, you can find the reference to Boyne p.370, but he only make a very brief reference to "reports" of balloons being used in Ancient China.--Mumia-w-18 (talk) 13:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Lanterns 

message: If I may humbly point out, this article appears to be more on the History of Aerial warfare then the actual aerial warfare in the tactics, operational and strategic sense. For example I was surprised to find that Patrol Area, one of the basic aerial warfare concepts since WWI redlinked on me, and I can find no other article to point to, with Combat Air Patrol also missing. -- mrg3105mrg3105   04:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aerial Warfare 

message: Any sources? 76.98.0.36 (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I just added a couple of references.--Mumia-w-18 (talk) 04:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hezbollah Drone

message: Israel started Lebanon war 2006 by an intensive aerial campaign aimed to eliminate Hezbollah and destroy all its capabilities as stated by israeli prime minister. It also aimed to return the kidnapped soldiers. The campaign started by destroying lebanese infrastructure and Hezbollah targets. This continued during the 33 days of the war.
The importance of this war to the history of aerial campaigns lies in the fact that its the first war in the modern history that didn't reach its goals through the use of air force. Taking into consideration the results of 1990 and 2003 wars on iraq and 1998 war on former yogoslavia, the israeli air force which is one of the strongest in the world couldn't reach the set goals. This lies on the military doctrine that Hezbollah used in the war which proved effective in facing such kinds of wars.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.28.38.171 (talk) 08:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lebanon War 2006 

message: I'd like to ask which name is better for an article from the following
:Air warfare tactics 
or 
:Aerial warfare tactics
or 
:air combat tactic
or 
aerial combat tactic
or...something else--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 10:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  article name 

message: The first is currently redirected to Aerial warfare, the second to dogfight. However, they are neither!
A dogfight, as the name implies is combat between two aircraft. Moreover, it is between two fighter aircraft. 
Aerial combat can take place between multiple aircraft, and not just fighters. While aerial warfare includes engagement by aircraft of both air and surface targets, and includes air to air combat, it seems to me a separate article is required for aerial combat that generally takes place, or had taken place, at squadron or below level of command. 
The question is, should this article be named aerial combat or air to air combat? There is no category for aerial combat, and Category:Aerial maneuvers seeks to seemingly describe the dogfight. Category:Aerial warfare tactics also seems suitable, and it presumably includes both the air to air and air to surface tactics used by aircraft. So, what should the article on combat between aircraft at squadron, flight and pair be called?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 08:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Aerial combat & Air to air combat

message: The war of 1965 was far from inconclusive , the accuracy of the section can be questioned to a certain degree.
Further data is required and analysis is required to ascertain the true extent of the aerial warfare that took place over the subcontinent in 1965.
http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=47
is a good source of information. but note binding even thought this website delivers a good qualitative analysis it must also be seen that the listed "victories" also contain claimed and unconfirmed entries so caution is advised as with all wartime results and figures that are distorted to provide a moral booster.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.205.224 (talk) 10:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold! Go for it. Binksternet (talk) 17:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the correctness of the 1965 Indo-pak war 

message: There's plenty of room for coverage of other important topics. There was almost no coverage at all of naval air power in WWII, and none at all of the US B-29 bombing, including Hiroshima. Korea was two sentences. The balloon coverage is absurdly detailed, it should be moved into its own article and given a short blurb. The middle east 1967 six day war and 1973 conflict is less than one paragraph. This is a topic that's actually in the Britannica encyclopedia, so it should get more coverage than this. There are lots of articles on aircraft and battles than can be moved here as long as it's trimmed down to fit in this timeline. Bachcell (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold! Go for it. Binksternet (talk) 17:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaping Holes in Coverage 

message: We are maintaining a database of reported airstrikes that affected civilians on the OurBombs.com website, here: Air Strike Tracker
--Neilhalloran (talk) 00:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air Strike Tracker, a reference? 

message: I'm certain the failure to mention the Marine Corp. AV-8B role in this conflict is a very sore spot.
Personally I think that is the major reason my brother-in-law left the Marines after actually being good enough to qualify for 'top gun'.
Background: Operation Desert Storm in 1991 was highlighted by expeditionary air operations performed by the AV-8B. The Harrier II was the first Marine Corps tactical strike platform to arrive in theater, and subsequently operated from various basing postures. Three squadrons, totaling 60 aircraft, and one six-aircraft detachment operated ashore from an expeditionary airfield, while one squadron of 20 aircraft operated from a sea platform. During the ground war, AV-8Bs were based as close as 35 nautical miles (40.22 miles) from the Kuwait border, making them the most forward deployed tactical strike aircraft in theater. The AV-8B flew 3,380 sorties for a total of 4,083 flight hours while maintaining a mission capable rate in excess of 90%. Average turnaround time during the ground war surge rate flight operations was 23 minutes.
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marinefacts/blharrier.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyalgadfly (talk • contribs) 21:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Slight to the Marines

message: Korea was NOT the first time g-suits were used in combat. They were used by the RAF and the USAAF from at least mid-1944 on. This incorrect little tidbit of information has been inserted into this article as well as the article on the Korean War. Repetition does not make it true.172.191.63.148 (talk) 00:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  G-suits and Korea 

message: the section regarding 1971 war has many flaws. 1- the PAF's 14 squadron was not destroyed, it was grounded after 60 hrs of combat against 11 indian squadrons and since 21 november 1971 it had destroyed 11 indian warplanes for the loss of only 5. 1 warplane was lost to an accident (wrongly claimed by india over gharibpur/boyra), the rest of the 10 planes were scutteled, 4 of which were recovered by bengalis and used till 1974. 2- the PAF did not take part in the highly-controversial battle of longewala only cuz shehbaz airbase in jacobabad was not mobalized. moreover indias jaisalmir airbase was put out of action subesequently wen a c-130 bombed it and inflicted 200 casualties. 3-the PAF did not tak part in 2 indian missile boat attacks on karachi for sure, but 2 points, first the oil tanks (3 in number having 15000 tons of oil) were destroyed by IAF not by indian missile boats and secondly the indian missile boat base of okha was also put out of action when bombed by a b-57 destroying several oil tanks, thus ceasing further missile boat actions. 4- PAF did not decrease her sorties, if compared to 1965 PAF flew more sorties, destroying 134 indian warplanes 107 on the western frnt ( ACM abdur rahim khan) while another 27 on the eastern front. 33 indian wreckages were discovered photographed and registered, i hav pics of them if u want...... these corrections must be made.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.185.58.198 (talk) 06:12, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  1971 war and PAF 

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