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Talk:Symphonic Metamorphosis of Themes by Carl Maria von Weber

message: Between the title of the article, and within the article, the name of the piece is coming through about three different ways. Can we settle on one? Metamorphosis, metamorphoses (singlar, plural), also of, or on, other... given that it's not a question of translation from German this time since the title was- I believe- originally in English, this should not be difficult! (According to  by Douglas A. Lee (2002) - , , Routledge - page 190 - it's (the) Symphonic Metamorphosis of Themes by Carl Maria von Weber. Double-checking with more Hindemith-specific research books may be an excellent idea, though... and the manuscript, published score, other sources.)  Schissel | Sound the Note! 18:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that the "metamorphoses" (pl.) version has a significant foothold in the consciousness of many people (as measured by a relatively sizeable 6,000 ghits, against 15,000 for the singular form), maybe we need a note to explain why the plural is not the correct version.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 21:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note added at last, but not before the title got reverted back again! It did not help that there were no reliable sources given. I have added a few, as well as some Further reading items, which should provide some ammunition. Now, how do we get the article title fixed?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind that last bit—I just figured it out.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:16, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: Exactly what does Hindemith do to, add to, change in, Weber's themes/pieces, anyway? I'd always assumed that in the second movement, for instance, Weber's theme was just the idea from which Hindemith took off on his odd and modulatory/minatory fantasy (I'm not making much sense there, I suppose), but listening to a performance of the Weber original, or what I think is the Weber original, broadcast, it sounds like all the chromaticism that I thought Hindemith added, e.g. , was in the original. Does he just orchestrate the duets in the 1st/3rd/4th movements more or less and the march from the incidental music in the 2nd, or is there more to it? I'm guessing more, but it seems worth summarizing somewhat in the article, maybe. I don't have an answer myself at this time though... Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metamorphosis
Talk:When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

message: Don't merge. There are enough settings of this work that it makes no sense to merge the article on Hindemith's version into this one. Samer (talk) 07:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't merge. I have added an entry for the First Symphony of K.A. Hartmann which also includes Whitman's text (in translation). It also predates Hindemith's setting.--Stevouk (talk) 11:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging 

message: I have been planning an expansion of this article for some time, and working on it for the last 2-3 months in my sandbox. I added a few of those drafted sections moments ago. Planning to add sections on the poem's narrative, style, structure, critical reception, legacy and its influence on literature and culture (but not fucking trivia) and an analysis of the symbolism and themes within the next few weeks. Standby.--ColonelHenry (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revisions FEB/MAR2014 

message: Many thanks to the editors who have expanded and polished this article so impressively.
Two quick questions regarding references:
*The sfn link to Shucard's text about Eliot is broken, because of a difference in years (the bibliography says 1985, the sfn says 1998). I tried to figure out which year was correct by referring to WorldCat, only to discover that the cited Routledge edition doesn't seem to exist. Is the reference to the 1998 edition published by Garland, or the 2011 revision published by Routledge?
*There is no reference pointing to the Olmstead book about Roger Sessions; it's only in the Bibliography. Should it be removed?
Best of luck as this article moves through the GA process!--Lemuellio (talk) 04:18, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and bibliography questions
Talk:Incises

message: At the moment, Sur Incises redirects to Incises, and the article Incises discusses both pieces. I think that "Sur Incises" is the more prominent of "Incises" and "Sur Incises", and I suggest that the article be renamed from "Incises" to "Sur Incises" to reflect this, with Incises redirecting to Sur Incises. (I don't think there's enough material to split off "Incises" to its own article.) – Tea2min (talk) 16:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to "Sur Incises"?
Talk:RTMark

message: "It thus operates outside the laws governing human individuals, and benefits from the much looser laws governing corporations."
That's quite pretentious.  One has to be rather pompous to claim their organization operates outside the laws governing human individuals.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:DA8:D800:107:857A:C53A:549D:3C4 (talk) 09:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  unencyclopedic 

message: The title of this article is "®TM", but both the first and second lines of the article refer to "®TMark". Which is correct? Note that I understand the superscript limitation; I'm referring to the presence/absence of the "ark" bit. -- DH85868993 05:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Note: there is no such limitation for this case, since there is a ™ symbol) +mt 23:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal inconsistency 

message: This is not explained in the article, and the external link is dead. Could someone please fix this? Loganberry (Talk) 19:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What SimCopter hack? 

message: This article is written in the past tense without explaining why. — Hex (❝?!❞) 13:28, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unexplained past tense
Talk:Pli selon pli

message: This rather famous dismissal of the piece ("Am I the only listener who finds Pli selon pli both pretty monotonous and monotonously pretty?"), supposedly by Stravinsky, was published in July 1971, three months after Stravinsky's death, in a piece in the New York Review of Books, called 'Stravinsky - the Last Interview'. It doesn't identify the 'interviewer' but purports to assemble remarks made by Stravinsky on various dates between March 1st and April 2nd 1971. Stravinsky died on 6th April 1971. Stephen Walsh, in vol. 2 of his Stravinsky biography at p.559, writes that Robert Craft later admitted to having written the interview himself. Even if he hadn't, it ought to have been pretty obvious. Some of it is just bizarre. The opening question to this great man, in extremely poor health and obviously approaching the end of his life, is: 'What are your thoughts about the new euthanasia movement, Mr. Stravinsky?'. The readers of the NYRB were asked to believe that Stravinsky, with his legendary dry wit, replied with three chipper paragraphs of (pure Craft) wittering. For example: 'For the fifty-year increase in life expectancy by the end of the century, thanks to anti-oxidents such as BHT, and hormone rejuvenators such as prednisolone, is surely the grisliest of all the fates in store for the future beneficiaries of our current medical miracles. In short, gerontological retrogression is as important as euthanasia, if ounces of prevention are worth their proverbial weight in cure.' A discredited source, if ever there was one... Dmass (talk) 17:07, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation for cutting 'Stravinsky' assessment of Pli selon pli
Talk:Polyphonie X

message: Re the tag attached to the Maderna performance: "Citation needed|date=April 2014 !--The Maderna recording (on Stradivarius STR 10044) is timed at 15:39, while the Rosbaud (multiple releases, first on DG and later mainly on Col Legno) is about 16:21. If the former is just the first movement, either the second and third movements are extremely short, or Maderna takes the music at less than half of Rosbaud's tempo.-->"
I've done a quick comparison of the two recordings and I think Maderna is Part One only - and (as suggested above) taken at less than half of Rosbaud's tempo! To my ears, the end of Maderna sounds like the passage leading up to 7'25" in Rosbaud, greatly slowed down. There is also a pause after it in Rosbaud which seems to mark the end of a section. Anyone care to check and see if I'm right? Not sure how to cite this. The fact of the performance (but not its precise date or its partial nature)  is recorded in a footnote in:
 Dmass (talk) 14:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Maderna performance
Talk:Francesca da Rimini (Tchaikovsky)

message: All the wrangling over this article, and no one has noticed that toss-off bit about flames.  Tchaikovsky took his story from Dante, and knew what he was doing.  The whirling chromaticism in the second and fourth sections symbolizes wind, not flames: the monstrous tempest that Dante tells us rages eternally around the second circle of Hell, in which both Paolo and Francesca are caught.  Dante's tempest symbolizes lust itself, and Tchaikowsky uses this as well, in the third section: The accompaniment behind the repetitions of the love song, as it builds up, gradually takes on more and more of this same chromatic "windy" character.  In Dante's scheme of Hell, flames don't put in an appearance until the sixth circle.
Also, it is one of the strange mercies in Dante's picture of Hell: Paolo and Francesca are together.  They are not "separated from each other, never to touch again."  See here: http://italian.about.com/library/anthology/dante/blinferno005.htm beginning at line 73 ("And I began: 'O Poet, willingly / Speak would I to those two, who go together, / And seem upon the wind to be so light.' ...")  67.49.26.239 (talk) 11:18, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

message: From what I can find, the organ version is the only organ arrangement of this piece music.  Also since it seems to sound pretty good, I would think it should remain listed as a notable recording.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrmbgz (talk • contribs) 11:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have any references showing the notability of this composer, and this arrangement, by all means, add them.  However, this composer's article was recently deleted because the composer was non-notable.  This is part of cleanup following that deletion.  JDoorjam     JDiscourse 01:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of notable recording
Talk:Pezzo capriccioso

message: I would propose to make 2 changes to the title:
* put "capriccioso" in lower case, as per the usage within the article and as per Italian title capitalisation conventions
* remove the disambiguator "(Tchaikovsky)".  Is there any other notable piece called "Pezzo capriccioso"?  I very much doubt it, but even if there were, this one is way more famous.  Any others can have their composers's names attached, but this one need not and should not.
Comments?  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved it.  --  ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ [your turn] 12:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: Jonyungk did a heroic amount of work creating this article and, unfortunately, most of it was removed after the article was tagged for 'clean-up'.  I took a look at some of the history and came across a massive pruning (6,100 bytes)by Jonyungk on Jan. 14, 2008.  The text deleted was hugely informative and, while a fair amount of it was not exactly pertinent to the subject at hand, most of it was.  BRING BACK MOST OF THE LOST TEXT, PLEASE!
Star-lists (talk) 21:44, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restore some of the massive Jan. 14, 2008 deletions...  PLEASE! 

message: ...No footnotes whatsoever.  The reason why this is important to me (among many reasons, that is):  I came across an article on Kondratyev that said he suffered from 'dropsy' (edema), not syphilis, and don't know who to believe.  
Please, Jonyungk (original heroic [?] article creator), I hope the article was not taken wholesale from a book.  Show us where you got all this information from!...
Star-lists (talk) 21:54, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs footnotes...
Talk:Piano Concerto No. 2 (Tchaikovsky)

message: The link "Information about the Concerto" was bad because that site has recently reorganised itself.  On 14 July, I made it point to the correct page .
Unfortunately, that source is still a bit of a problem, since it makes a mess of the date of the premiere.  
In the dot points, it says:
:"First performed in New York, 31 October/12 November 1881, by Madeline Schiller, conducted by Theodore Thomas".   
:*This is correct, as was recently confirmed over at Talk:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky#Second Piano Concerto - Premiere performance.   (Being in the USA, I can't see the relevance of adding the Julian date 31 October; but it's not incorrect.)
Down in the "History" section, it says:
: "The first performance only took place on 18 May 1882 in Moscow [18], in the concert hall of the Arts and Industrial Exhibition. The soloist was S. I. Taneev, and the orchestra was conducted by A. G. Rubinstein."
:*This is incorrect; this performance was the first Russian performance, not the world premiere.
However, footnote [18] says:
: "In fact, the premiere of the concerto took place in New York on 31 October/12 November 1881, by Madeline Schiller, conducted by Theodore Thomas".
:* ... which corrects the above statement to agree with the first one.
So, they get there in the end, but this is a somewhat odd way to present information, I must say, and is likely to lead to further confusion unless the second statement is corrected (which would obviate the need for the footnote).  --  JackofOz 06:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem with one of the sources

message: Has anyone ever noticed that this concerto’s first movement theme is very similar to the main theme in Mendelssohn’s Hebrides Overture?  It seems odd to me. I wonder if the overture was in Tchaikovsky’s thoughts while composing this piece.  Just an observation. 2603:8080:5E0C:D075:30E7:DA03:CD17:5167 (talk) 16:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar melody
Talk:Serenade for Strings (Tchaikovsky)

message: "Pezzo in forma di sonatina: Andante non troppo; Allegro moderato; this was in homage to Mozart"
What was? Also, the way it's written, it looks like it's actually part of Tchaikovsky's tempo marking. --83.88.93.176 (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed now.  --  JackofOz (talk) 22:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homage to Mozart clarification 

message: I made many changes regarding the analysis of the form, but realized I never cited any sources. I did it all from analyzing a score that my conductor gave me, and I do not know how to cite it. Can anyone help me do it? Imagodsobeit (talk) 03:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to cite a score 

message: Link for dedication goes to a person with that name but is someone born about 40 years after the work was composed. Blaine3699 (talk) 00:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Link for Dedication?
Talk:Marche slave

message: I think there are two versions of this work, one which incorporates the 1812 themes and one which does not. Can anybody shed light on the matter? Did Tchaikovsky rework the piece after the success of the 1812 overture? 
(DonGoat 20:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two versions?

message: I do not speak Serbian, but I thing the translation of the song title is wrong.  It should be "your light is unequaled."  There is a big difference between "your light is unequal" (unequal to what?) and "your light is unequaled" (nothing can compare to it). Caeruleancentaur (talk) 15:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your light is unequal???? 

message: - First theme "Sunce jarko, ne sijas jednako" (Bright sun, you do not shine equally)
    TUNE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuw_0aSKaPk
  - Second theme "Rado ide Srbin u vojnike" (Gladly does the Serb become a soldier)
    TUNE http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_356288&v=3HyaH89oRns  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.82.83.140 (talk) 11:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the Serbian folk songs 
Talk:The Seasons (Tchaikovsky)

message: I deleted the section on "Historical Background" because it was an exact replica of the foreword to Alfred's publication of "The Seasons", edited by Maurice Hinson. Iamtiredofbeingpedantic (talk) 22:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical background

message: 12. Décembre (December): Noël (Christmas)
          Once upon a Christmas night the girls were telling fortunes:
          taking their slippers off their feet and throwing them out of the gate.
          (Korney Chukovsky)
There is mistake.  This poem wrote V. Zhukovsky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.76.4.224 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The melody for "December" is clearly based on the plainchant "Divinum mysterium". —Mahāgaja · talk 10:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: December
Talk:Violin Concerto (Tchaikovsky)

message: From the interview with Leopold Auer, it sounds like he's saying he made changes to the solo but it's not clear whether what Brodsky played was Tchaikovsky's original or Auer's modified version.Docsavage20 (talk) 20:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  So which version was debuted? 

message: Can someone elaborate on this section a little bit more?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by S ried (talk • contribs) 20:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical demands 

message: I was looking through other violin concertos and it seems like this one is pretty much one of the few that don't have an infobox. I don't see why we shouldn't put one, but it's up to everyone's consensus. Pacamah (talk) 21:56, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox?
Talk:Religion in Iraq

message: The section on Christianity says it was brought there in the 40s.  the section on Mandaeism says it has been there 1800 years, hence since 200 CE, and that it is therefore the 3rd oldest religion after Zoroastrianism and Judaism.  Which is it?--142.163.194.106 (talk) 00:27, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  3rd oldest religion? 

message: There is a clear vandal who is putting a wrongful near 50-50% Shia/Sunni ratio. It’s intellectually dishonest and defeats what we at Wikipedia are trying to do.
The CIA World Factbook has a 29-34% Sunni and 64-69% Shia percentage. The prevalent sources all state a 30-40% Sunni and 60-70% Shia populace. Stop using links that don’t work or Pie Charts that don’t give exact information. It’s redundant and dishonest.
Stop trying to make yourself feel better by putting inputting wrong information, whoever you are. JasonMoore (talk) 14:45, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  USE SOURCED PERCENTAGES. 

message: In the diagram it says "Sunni Islam (60%), Sunni Islam (37%), Christianity (3%)"
Obviously, Shia should be one of these. I don't know the matter. - Jetro (talk) 16:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in the diagram
Talk:Enrique Mansilla

message: I always thought his lad was sizing up another series.  I  was going to bump into quique when he is somewhere nearby, but I bet I will be boring his son with Info. First & then grading it..... I am not one for wanting to hear the machine is good, but perhaps more complexed detail.... I laugh in a way, as the 1st time I did a Grid Walk, a guy knew me from weeks before (quite a talent in FRenault);
That day he was driving his first F3 Race & QUIQUE had much success in F2 with the same Boss (about 15 years prior......something like that). Simon O'Donovan (talk) 22:45, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wonderful Individual
Talk:John Bridges (software developer)

message: I created this page because this John Bridges is referred to on several Wikipedia pages: PCPaint, GRASP, Mouse Systems, and GLPro.  Mr Bridges' role in the development and evolution of computer graphics programming is referenced on those pages and in external links. Lyricanjl 05:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hangon
Talk:Eye of the Dolphin

message: This article has had its infobox tag removed by a cleanup using AWB.
Any concerns please leave me a message at my talk page. RWardy 19:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "needs infobox" tag 

message: I followed the editor who posted here from another article. He does not have very many contribs and seems to pushing edits onto the article wikilinked by him. The IMDb article on the movie does not have this producer credit which suggests that the other article is being editted to include info that is not cited elsewhere. I'd recommend this issue be watched. Something is not copestitic in Denmark. . . ----moreno oso (talk) 15:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Today's revert 2010-05-24

message: We see a dolphin beating a human at tic tac toe. While this is slightly more likely than a chicken playing tic tac toe, it's still science fiction. So is the hypothesis that one dolphin can tell another which of three manmade objects it sees in a box. 
Don't get me wrong, I love dolphins and I think they're smart. But absent references to any real world research I think we gotta slap the sci-fi label on this. --Uncle Ed (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Science fiction

message: What about Dolphin Captivity Issues in connection with this movie? I have tried at length and in vain to find reliable information on this topic. A discussion of this should be included in the article and would be a valuable contribution. ---Dagme (talk) 06:19, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captivity Issues