Talk:Church

message: should not Church be the disambiguation pate, and Church (building) the article on the buildings? The term is too ambiguous to just point to the buildings article. dab (ᛏ) 10:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

message: I thought there was a bar in London called Church or the Church, maybe not there any more. There were some press reports. m.e. (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  English bar? 

message: Maniadis, sorry I removed the link to Clergy; I had no idea "church" could mean "clergy", and this synonym wasn't mentioned on the target page. In this case, evidence to support your position was easy to find, but it wouldn't have hurt to give some evidence when you re-made your change. I'm reformatting your entry to better conform to WP:MOSDAB – the piped link is incorrect – and removing the duplicate you introduced; as noted in my edit summary, Religion-supporting organization was not removed, but moved down to "see also".
I believe moving Religion-supporting organization was justified, as its meaning is significantly different to "church"; again it's not mentioned as a synonym in the article, nor was this meaning in the dictionaries I consulted. Inclusion is justified in the "see also" section as several meanings of "church" would come under the definition of Religion-supporting organization, which is a much broader term (the page discusses religious charities, for example). If you want to move Religion-supporting organization back into the main section, please provide evidence "church" is used as a synonym.
--Rogerb67 (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Clergy" and "Religion-supporting organization" 

message: Before cleaning up the page, I observed the above past discussion about what links should be listed here, particularly for all the various religions with "church" in the title. This is one of those areas where the "Is someone likely to search for this topic under the name 'Church'?" rule does not make things totally clear. But my thinking in deciding to remove Catholic Church, etc. is that although it's not entirely unreasonable that someone would search for this religion under the name "church", is it unreasonable that, upon not finding it specifically listed here, they would have no idea how else to find its article? I think it is. In other words, I can't think of how a person looking for the catholic church wouldn't try looking for "catholic church", or a person looking for the Eastern Orthodox church wouldn't look for "eastern orthodox church", even if they first looked here and failed to find it. And I did insert a link to List of Christian denominations which I believe lists all those topics for which I removed links here. It doesn't list Church of Scientology, but, again, anyone should be able to look under "scientology"; I don't think we need to clutter the page catering to the tiny minority of people that might first try "church." 
I also removed Invisible church because it seemed very improbable that someone looking for that would look under "church", and same for Church-Turing thesis. Propaniac (talk) 15:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: In politics the term "church" is often used to refer to religion as a whole as in "separation of church and state". Does that mean separation of christianity and state or religion as a whole? Pass a Method talk 12:17, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you can read the word "generally" in the text that I added in deference to the sentiment you were going for. You know the word "man" is also used to mean All of Humanity, but generally it means one human or even one human male. Generally, "church" means a Christian congregation or the building where they gather. It would not generally be used to describe where Muslims meet, or where Jewish believers meet. Mormons often use the term "stake center", but they might say they are "going to church". Hindus might go to the shrine in their home or the temple at times. So while "church" can be used as a general term to mean "religion", it is ill suited to that use. "Church and State" is used because that is the term that Thomas Jefferson used in his Danbury Baptist letter. Since he was writing a letter to Christians, he would have used a term that was meaningful to them. You might note in the Treaty of Tripoli, just prior to the Danbury Baptist letter, the word "religion" was used. And of course, in the First Amendment to the Constitution, the word "religion" is used. "Church" is most commonly used to describe the things of Christianity, not of other faiths. -- Avanu (talk) 12:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Church 

message: If you put define:church into Google this is the first result:
:church/CHərCH/
:Noun:	
::A building used for public Christian worship.
::A particular Christian organization, typically one with its own clergy, buildings, and distinctive doctrines: "the Church of England".
Are you suggesting Google is wrong to define it as Christian? Eddaido (talk) 03:14, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't call Google a reliable source any more than I'd call Wikipedia a reliable source. I'd give your argument more weight if you were using something along the lines of Merriam Webster or dictionary.com. ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

text: As for your other edit, the terms should be listed in order of how frequently the word church refers to them–not chronologically. Thus church the building and church service should come before church the society founded by Christ. I'd revert, but I generally try to stay below 1RR. ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:50, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you should check with whichever dictionary you  choose. Eddaido (talk) 06:46, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have checked the above dictionaries and they do indeed give special mention to Christian religious denominations or buildings. In the future you would do well to perform your own research when someone asks you for a source. I'm fine now with leaving it in the Lead. I have removed the Christian Church that you added to the list, because it was already in the list before you added it, and there's no need to say it twice. ~Adjwilley (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: May I suggest "you would do well to" check in the obvious places before rushing your personal ideas to your computer screen! Eddaido (talk) 01:21, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian

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