Talk:Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India

message: Should not the title be "Fundamental rights, fundamental duties and directive principles of state policy"? btw, the child labour image is from a US photographer - I doubt if it is from India. The article is good, though pedantic, but it cannot be helped given the nature of the topic. Good show!! --Gurubrahma 05:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Directive principles and DPSP's can be used interchangeably cause no other directives are given in the indian constitution. The img has been added cause it's a FP and I couldn't find any other imgs already on WP (though could probably find more on search on net).--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 11:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of observations 

message: I don't see a need for the infobox on this article. It is just taking up space. More specific infobox would be one that lists articles related to the Indian constitution. Please feel to free to put it back if you feel otherwise - Ganeshk (talk) 09:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics Infobox

message: I tried searching in vain for a image of the Fundamental Rights on the Part III. Could not find any. Would be a nice addition to the article - Ganeshk (talk) 10:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we add this picture from pib.nic.in? - Ganeshk (talk) 10:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I think nic.in site images are in public domain.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 11:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the img in the lead, though it looks awkward and irrelevant there. Please move it to a more appropriate place.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 12:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Under the the pic of the preamble to the constitution it says, 'The Preamble of the Constitution of India – India's fundamental and supreme law of fun'. What is that?????????  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.167.94 (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

text:  One suggestion, Why not add "Chuhiya" the girl who was UN poster girl and is still in news be used, I guess under fair-usage policy it wouldnt' be objectionable. It would also suit the context. Hope it would also highlight the actual factual situation | excerpt from times of india —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.18.55.34 (talk) 04:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures needed

message: Can the following changes be made before we start copyediting?
* The tone shows the author as an obvious admirer of our constitution, we need to make it more neutral.
* There are minor sections which have little "flesh". Either merge them or add more flesh. e.g., 
Freedom to form associations or unions
The State can impose reasonable restrictions on this freedom in the interest of public order, morality and the sovereignty and integrity of India.
* The whole article has a legal tone to it. Though difficult to avoid, we may need to bring other perspectives to it.
May be, as Political integration of India clears the FAC, people will come back to this article. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for improvement 

message: I have extensively copyedited the article. It was mostly to remove spelling/grammatical mistakes as well as to remove poetry from the prose like "The independence of Ireland and the development of the Irish constitution would provide an ideal model for Indians seeking independence and their own government." Please go through me edits to see if I have at any place inadvertently changed the meaning of the sentence or changed a sentence to a poorer form. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent copyedit 

message: :: See the Link below in Hindi and English for citizens.
:: http://lawmin.nic.in/coi/PartIVA.pdf   vkvora 04:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constitution of India, Part IV-A, Fundamental Duties 

message: I've done some refactoring and condensing. We need to condense the sections on "Genesis" and "criticisms". Also, the "fundamental rights" section could use some summary style. Once these are done, we could seek peer review before nominating it at WP:FAC. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sundar, I saw that you've removed most of the content from DPSPs and Fundamental Duties sections, and this has left them at a measly one para each. With that short sections, it will defintely be commented upon at PR and FAC, since Fundamental Rights dominates over the article. Do you think, we should create a separate article for rights, and then elevate it to FA status, or restore the text?--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 08:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Shreshth. I've condensed the text by removing too-detailed paragraphs in the interest of Wikipedia:Summary style. Much of what I removed was a repetition of the "non-justicibility" in different flavours. :-) New daughter articles on each of the sections need to be created and there shall not be many subsections. We can retrieve the deleted paragraphs and use it in the daughter articles. What do you say? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, what remains is not "measly", but is a good summary. We need to condense genesis, fundamental rights, and critical analysis sections as well. As it is, the article is 46KB long, that too of legal language. It'd be difficult for peer reviewers to read and comment. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: First of all, I've moved the article to Fundamental Rights of India. I'm working on reducing the text. Check back in 10 minutes.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 12:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops. Sorry that I didn't check that. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, it could take more time than that :D  Just keep checking back regularly.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 12:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made some edits recently, though not resulting in significant condensation. Please follow it up. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've done some  condensing. Please see. BTW I've removed 13252 characters per CryptoDerk's Vandal Fighter :D  --May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 13:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good though your edit effectively overwrites some copyediting that I did. :-( I've cascaded the copyedit to Fundamental Rights in the Constitution of India. Check out if some of it needs to be effected in the latest version. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've done some work on the "Critical Analysis" section. Please look over it. --May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 09:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Next steps 

message: I vaguely remember some issue about an Akali Dal member being objected to carrying his Kirpan inside the Lok Sabha. Does that merit a mention in the critical analysis? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume becoz it posed a security risk. Frankly no, becoz its a one-off, specific political issue where the security people might have made a boo-boo. If there was a case of general prohibition, only then would it be an important enough issue. This Fire Burns Always  06:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I buy your argument. That particular MP was contesting this decision from a philosophical standpoint though. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kirpan 

message: I don't think the statement on Indian citizens not being allowed to accept foreign titles is accurate, because Dilip Kumar got the Nishan-e-Imtiaz from Pakistan, and Om Puri was recently knighted. This Fire Burns Always  11:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can check out Article 18(2) of the Const. Part III. --May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign titles 

message: Someone is somehow overlaying images that are not germane over the content of this article. I'm sure you all know, but now it's in the historical record.
Seek an end to this as soon as possible for our gracious Allah. eszetttalk 02:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A number of administrators have taken care of this now. Peace. --HappyCamper 03:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was trying to correct it from my home and had a pretty embarrassing moment. Can anybody explain what happened exactly and how to remedy it?. Leotolstoy 05:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandals are adding images to the templates used in the article. Catchpole 07:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it better to remove the link for the start, as I can't change the photo at the moment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.156.180.250 (talk) 09:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shady vandalism 

message: Is there any reason that anon editors keep doing drive by removals of the picture? shotwell 05:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They really like poo sex. I don't blame them. 72.29.211.18 14:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture? 

message: This article says that the directive on free and compulsary education was added in 2002 under an amendment. However, i remember this being in the directive principles when we were in school and that was as far nack as 1983. i checked the wikisource. it just shows the current state of the directive principles and not the amendments --Hydman 04:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see this. --May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91 08:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free and compulsary education  

message: need to add this in the criticism section
http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/debates/vol7p18b.htm
http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/debates/vol7p18c.htm
http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/debates/vol7p17a.htm
its amendment 438.
many news channel talking about this
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=40567
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122877201598989093.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/mumbais_harsh_lesson_on_gun_co.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/article5299010.ece
http://regularfolksunited.com/index.php?tab=article_view&article_id=619
plz add this in the critism section
18:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Right to bear arms 

message: It doesn't seem consistent with the notion of fundamental rights that these rights can be "conferred".  Is that the correct translation? Anyone speak Hindi? AThousandYoung (talk) 22:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fundamental Rights Conferred?

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thread_title:  External links and box-type templates 

message: I have subject-matter expertise as well as sufficient reference materials available to me. I hope to expand sections as well as do some serious editing before trying to make this part of a coherent structure for Indian constitutional law. If anyone has issues with the changes, please discuss them here. Semanticz0 (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serious issues 

message: I agree that this article is seriously problematic. The Criticism section is full of original research as it just has random examples of government policies linking to news articles on them, but the articles don't have any discussion on constitutional law. Also the article just rattles off 1-sentence summaries of each of the articles without any analysis, and the legal content is sourced to one scholar only (Professor Basu), which is not a good idea for a subjective field such as law Bumbubookworm (talk) 06:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA concerns 

message: Fundamental duties 103.156.19.163 (talk) 03:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social 

message: Fundamental 103.148.21.195 (talk) 03:59, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fundamental duties