Talk:Robert Stacy McCain

message: This stub in its present form needs substantial NPOV revisions. In its current form the article
#Attributes "pro-confederate" views to McCain without any source or specification
#Attributes "white nationalist" views to McCain without any source or specification (I seriously doubt he calls himself a "white nationalist," though Morris Dees or somebody of his ilk may have accused McCain of being that)
#No source on SPLC demands for resignation, no specification of why they demanded it, and no detail about their own biases and affiliation with the radical left (which could predispose them against a conservative newspaper editor).
#Phrase "but have not yet been successful in achieving it" referring to the alleged SPLC effort leans in POV toward the SPLC's supposed position.
Please fix these and develop the content more before removing the POV tag. Rangerdude 1 July 2005 23:44 (UTC)
: I've replaced these all with specific quotes with citations. AaronSw 21:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV Tag

message: Comments:
# Is this person notable? (I mean no offense by this -- I'm not very notable myself.)
# Is he supposed to editing his own article? I think subjects of articles are encouraged to note errors on the talk page, but not actually edit.
Presently, part of this article reads like a resume. At the same time, some of the earlier versions were very negatively POV. Neither tone has a place in Wikipedia. Seeing that some of you editors are either in journalism or somewhere in the intelligentsia, I'm confident you all can produce something more encyclopedic -- if you really want to.
--A. B. 01:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable? Vanity editing? POV?

message: → (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive12)
This article has been listed at BLP Noticeboard.  Obama bin Levin 19:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: BLP Noticeboard

message: WIKI VANDALISM AGAINST McCAIN: On Oct. 16, 2007, this section was edited by a user on a computer with the IP address "70.43.14.3"  to include falsehoods, some of them apparently based on the errors in the Signorile column, which have been repeated with elaboration by SPLC's Heidi Beirich and others.
PERSONAL STATEMENT BY ROBERT STACY McCAIN: It has become obvious, by this most recent vandalism as well as other previous "contributions" to this article, that there are some people with too much ignorance in their minds, too much evil in their hearts, and too much time on their hands. If you have nothing better to do with your life than to insert false and defamatory material into other people's Wiki articles, you are a pathetic excuse for a human being. -- RSM, Nov. 17, 2007 
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Will Beback (talk • contribs) 19:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments moved from article

message: Right now the article says they are "cousins."  However this seems to be a joke by Robert.  I think the article should say if they are closely related or not. Thanks. Steve Dufour (talk) 14:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: R.S. McCain is no relation to the John McCain who ran for President in 2008. At least, not in a way that is generally known--presumably, if one went back to the records in Ireland, one could find some connection. But R.S. McCain isn't even Roman Catholic, which is unusual for an American of Irish descent. R.S. McCain did not campaign for or support John S. McCain for President, as he didn't consider Senator McCain a "true conservative" (or something along those lines). Stacy McCain does refer to Senator McCain as his "crazy cousin John," but that is, indeed, a joke.Scooge (talk) 06:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Related to John McCain?

message: Is RSM Notable by Wikipedia's standards? I don't see that this article passes WP:CREATIVE, but I could be wrong. Given that this article has long been used to promote underhanded attacks on RSM, and that lots of POV-pushers will try to continue to use it for that purpose, maybe we should just delete it. Any comments? Or should I just WP:PROD it? CWC 13:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I just PRODded it. If anyone has evidence of wikipedic notability, this would be a really good time to mention it ... CWC 20:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm on the run today, but 1) his blog does pull down a certain amount of traffic, all by itself, and, 2) he does get cited by others. Obviously, a lot of them are bloggers, which brings us up against the Wiki-weirdness WRT blogs, but he's mentioned by print-writers, too--e.g., he was mentioned in Michelle Malkin's latest book.Scooge (talk) 17:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: At present, McCain seems to be playing a big role in a blog controversy. If that ever gets mentioned in a WP:RS, he is instantly mega-wikipedia-notable. So let's just wait and see. CWC 07:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable? 

message: Quick notes from reading RSM's blog:
*"Shoe Leather Fund" (eg., )
*Freelance reporting for The American Spectator (eg., )
*Fan of Herman Cain (eg., , "bad hair day")
Some or all of these might be worth mentioning in the article. Cheers, CWC 11:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working notes 

message: I haven't seen that in other entries, and it wasn't here last time I looked at the page. Can we remove that, or at least move it to later on in the article? Scooge (talk) 12:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. That was my mistake, and I've fixed it. Cheers, CWC 15:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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message: Can someone please show me mainstream, secondary sources about this blogger that evidence his notability?  His own writing in and of itself is not notable without secondary sources indicating its notability.  I saw many, many links to notable people he has spoken to, but talking to notable people doesn't make one notable in and of itself.  I see lots of blog links that aren't considered WP:RS.  I see a lot of information that is unsourced. I see the subject himself has added information.  What I don't see are WP:Reliable Sources nor evidence of WP:Notability - what am I missing?  I do see an Alexa traffic rank of 61,214 for his blog, which is not very impressive.  --David Shankbone 01:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability tag 

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message: I am moving the following material here from the article until citations of reliable sources are added to it to support it, per WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, et al.
McCain was born in Atlanta, Georgia. He graduated in 1983 from Jacksonville State University in Alabama. His journalism career began with the (now defunct) Cobb News-Chronicle in 1986. He then worked as a sports editor for the Marietta, Georgia-based Neighbor Newspapers, before joining the Calhoun (Ga.) Times as sports editor in September 1987. The Calhoun newspaper is a division of Rome, Georgia-based News Publishing Co.
In 1991, McCain joined the staff of the company's flagship daily newspaper, The Rome News-Tribune, working closely with special projects/editorial page editor Pierre Rene-Noth. Frequently writing about such subjects as education and history, McCain was awarded a George Washington Honor Medal from the conservative Freedoms Foundation at Valley Forge for his 1995 series of columns about the National Standards for U.S. History.
Nightscream (talk) 13:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
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