Talk:Grindhouse (film)/Archive 2

message: Good job on this.  This might be close to FA level with a better copyedit and some style fixes, and I suggest getting ahold of the book about the film for further expansion.  --badlydrawnjeff talk 21:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try and get the book if I can ever find it at a local library or if it comes down below $10-15 on Amazon. Good work Ibaranoff24! --Nehrams2020 22:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I own the book; what exactly would you like to have up there? Nqnpipnr 23:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see some more information on the development and the screenwriting process for both of the films. Any notable production info that isn't already there should be added. The "Directing," "Special effects" and "Music" sections seem a little lax. Is there anything in the book that can be added to those sections? Did Tarantino and Rodriguez say anything about doing their own cinematography? (Ibaranoff24 18:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know exactly how to expand on the writing process; few people rarely ever describe it, as it combines too many different events to describe. But yes, I could definitely add to the special effects section at some point. DacknotRick 22:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: i was just at the movie rental place and they said that something called the "Grindhouse Experience" is coming out in July and it's a 5 DVD boxset. Makes sense. 1 for death Proof, 1 for Planet Terror, 1 for Machete, 1 for Werewolf Women (40 minutes filmed remember) and Hobo with a a\shotgun (talks of movie), and finally maybe the last one for mini movies of the other fake trailers.
Note: I have no real proof but do you think it's possible?
---- Yeah, that's not it. It's a 5-disc set with 20 exploitation films: --http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P6R9I0/102-9945484-0346512. --YellowTapedR 05:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: release date for DVD?

message: Just in case anybody asks, the book "Grindhouse: The Sleaze-Filled Saga of an Exploitation Double Feature" does feature information regarding the making of Machete and Thanksgiving, but doesn't feature anything regarding the other three trailers.Nqnpipnr 00:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Werewolf, Don't and Hobo

message: Does anyone know about if Australia will get the release? I could not find it in the article (including International section). --Mikecraig 00:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia release 

message: Does anyone have a proof? Was the birthday ever pronounced in the "Death Proof" segment?
In the extended edition of Planet Terror, they say it takes place on April 15th.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.139.161 (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It it really Julia Jungle's birthday? 

message: My main concern is that this section is entirely unreferenced. If anyone has any citations for the awards mentioned in this section, add it back. (Ibaranoff24 22:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards section 

message: Doesn't second episode take place before first one? As I got it, in the end of the movie he gets the scar.
*No. He has the scar in both halves of Death Proof. See:  (Ibaranoff24 12:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death proof storyline 

message: The DVD covers are on flickr.com, but I'm not sure whether we're allowed to use them here. Anyone know the rules? Here they are:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/909386961_acfe2c76c1.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1279/909385467_cd1030e0d0.jpg
--YellowTapedR 20:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD Covers

message: :Image:Death Proof DVD.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Death Proof DVD.jpg

message: At this point, there is no need for DVD covers to be featured in the article. Actually, I would generally not suggest using DVD covers in Wikipedia articles. Even if you have a section discussing DVD releases of the film, there really isn't any need for people to see what the covers look like - they can go on websites like Amazon.com for things like that. Having images like that in articles doesn't improve its quality, and may be questioned by FAC reviewers. (Ibaranoff24 17:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how it's any different from having poster images on the article. --(trogga) 22:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Death Proof'' DVD cover 

message: I am curious if either director mentioned Movie Movie (1978) as being even a partial inspiration for the format of Grindhouse.  I have not seen either film (yet), but they are both double-feature format with fake trailers in between. Movie Movie spoofs the 1930s musical genre. — Eoghanacht talk 20:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''[[Movie Movie]]'' similarities, coincidence? 

message: I know this idea was rejected several months ago. But given that one film is out on DVD, and the other will follow soon, it looks like from here on out, the two films will be regarded as separate entities. It looks like Grindhouse will from now on be split in real life. 
In addition, this is a very large article, more than double what Wikipedia recommends. It needs to be carved up.
Here's what I suggest:
* Give Planet Terror and Death Proof their own articles. Move specific information about each film to these articles. (EDIT: Looks like Death Proof has its own article now)
* Keep the Grindhouse article, but make it primarily about the theatrical release.
I may start doing something in my sandbox, figuring out how to adequately split this article. Any suggestions?--Fightingirish 14:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I went ahead and started an article for Planet Terror, and added to the already existing Death Proof article. I added information from the main Grindhouse article to these pages, and in the process converted the plot summaries of the two features to brief synopsis in the main article. This cut away about 8kb. The previous summaries have been moved to the separate articles.--Fightingirish 16:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Time for a split?

message: Has it closed down or not? Nobody seems to know anything about this for real. Sources seem to be totally unavailable. --Nemissimo 07:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[A Band Apart]] 

message: :Death Proof and Planet Terror were released separately on DVD, a decision that has sparked debate from fans, with many being upset that the individual films were not released as a double feature, as they had been theatrically, and that the trailers have been omitted from both discs, and some have called for a boycott of the DVDs.
Are there any better sources for the "boycott" statement other than Filmstalker, Filmpeek and Film Junk? Wikipedia guidelines strongly discourage the use of blogs as references. (Ibaranoff24 12:28, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate DVDs 

message: I'm watching the two movies on DVD as two separate movies.  I didn't get to see the full experience at the theater.  The article here lists all the various components of the original theater release, but it doesn't state the order in which all the pieces fit together.  I was hoping that someone who knows could add that info here.  Which feature was shown first in the theater, and which trailers were played in what order/location within the presentation.  That info would be very interesting.
— Bill W. (Talk) (Contrib)  –    ,  (UTC)
The article pretty much lists the order. It was Machete trailer, Planet Terror, Werewolf Women of the S.S. trailer, Don't trailer, Thanksgiving trailer, Death Proof. Anyway, it's probably not necessary to explicitly say the order. The Kentucky Fried Movie article doesn't go into that much detail. --YellowTapedR 07:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info Not Found In Article 

message: Went and saw Grindhouse in its limited one week Oz release and noticed in the credits that the directors thank the Australian film industry and VB and XXXX beers. Does anyone have a clue why? Soundabuser (talk) 14:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a XXXX sign in the bar in Death proof.  Gaohoyt (talk) 17:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia from the credits 

message: I have cleaned up the articles for Planet Terror and Death Proof, deleted parts that were either unsourced or were not specific to each individual film, and have basically tried to rework each article into something respectful into each individual work and to try not to treat the films as a single work, as the article had previously done due to the fact that the articles were copied out of the Grindhouse article, and not properly. Basically, the articles are now a lot better looking and more specific to each individual film. As the "missing reel" title card only appeared in the US "double feature" version of Death Proof did not appear in the non-double feature version of that film, the "missing reels" info only appears in the Grindhouse and Planet Terror articles. The information about the fake trailers only appears in the Grindhouse article, as the separated version of Planet Terror only contains the Machete trailer, and Death Proof does not feature any trailers. I have also added development information from the Grindhouse article to the Planet Terror and Death Proof articles. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 15:41, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of the ''Planet Terror'' and ''Death Proof'' articles 

message: The article in the following citation:
Is no longer available, and redirects to the front page of the magazine's website. I was unable to find a backup of this article on the Internet Archive. Is there another online copy of this elsewhere? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 15:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wizard Universe article 

message: what kind of car & motorcyle does JT have stowed away?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.132.16 (talk) 20:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getaway vehicles 

message: What does everyone think of this? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed split