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Talk:O'Brien (Nineteen Eighty-Four)

message: I have deleted the "See also" section because it was redundant. It contained only one link, to Goldstein's book, which is also linked in the body of the article and the 1984 template at the bottom of the page. Pat Berry 05:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: Could the 'double' relationship between O'Brien and Winston be due to Orwell showing a Gothic influence?  They are presented as polar opposites, and explicit mention is made of their apparent symbiosis (or at least Winston's perception of it.) --81.159.161.115 (talk) 22:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gothic?

message: Emma Goldman should at least be mentioned as probably having
inspired the name "Emmanuel Goldstein"; many web sites support
this suspicion.  I haven't edited this into the article myself
because I'm not aware of a suitable definitive citation,
but it's likely that at least one exists.  73.53.44.165 (talk) 20:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emma Goldman
Talk:Isaac Pitman

message: The article says Pitman died on January 12, and the information was apparently taken from Encyclopedia Britannica. Earlier the article said he died on January 22, and some earlier editions of EB said so, too. Does anybody know what is the original source for January 12? (Where did EB get it, or is it an error?)
January 22 seems to be common in books about shorthand history, e.g. Benn Pitman's Sir Isaac Pitman: His Life and Labors, E. H. Butler's The Story of British Shorthand. and Alfred Baker's The life of Sir Isaac Pitman. Baker writes (p. 326): His death occurred at ten minutes to eight o'clock on the morning of Friday, 22nd January, 1897. Should we undo the change and revert to January 22? --Ryhanen (talk) 11:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been Googling this very subject because there has been some recent changes on this subject.  I have come to the conclusion the 22nd is correct.  I found that quote on p 326 of Baker's The life of Sir Isaac Pitman and think that Britannica has got it wrong on this occasion.  Yaris678 (talk) 19:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: 22nd Confirmed by ODNB. Ref added. There are a number of obituaries in the press as well dated 23rd. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death: January 12 or 22? 
Talk:ISO 15919

message: In the overview table it is shown that ज़ of devanagari and ౙ of telugu have same transliteration character i.e. z. However ज़is a voiced alveolar fricative while ౙ is a voiced alveolar affricate. Different soumds. I couldn't check the authencity since the ISO paper is under a paywall. Is this really the case in ISO paper ? Inquisitive creature (talk) 05:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Inquisitive creature I guess that this issue is solved already, isn't it? G.G.Hirve (talk) 22:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grouping of dissimilar sounds 

message: @Getsnoopy Hello – the standard is not accessible to me as it has a paywall. What does it actually say about the Urdu orthography characters? I added ࣇ for ḷ because this character was creates specifically to represent the same sound as ਲ਼ in Punjabi. If the standard says ḷ = ਲ਼ then I would think this follows. عُثمان (talk) 16:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It only lists those that wouldn't be native to Devanagari or the other Indic scripts, such as z, etc., but it doesn't say anything about the Perso-Arabic script as it's being used for Punjabi ("Shahmukhi"), which is why I removed it. Getsnoopy (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Not in the standard”
Talk:ISO 259

message: The transliteration used in the table aren't the same as with the ones provided in the file in the link. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 19:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

message: A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ISO_259-3 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ISO_259-3  until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
:Note: The outcome has implications for this article as well.
:MisterGoodTime (talk) 22:16, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination of [[ISO_259-3]] for deletion 

message: The opening statement in the article says:
ISO 259 is a series of international standards ... It is part of a series of standards (ISO 259).
Thus the article refers back to itself. Does the statement it is part of a series of standards (ISO 259) come originally from the separate ISO 259-3 article, or is there another series of Hebrew-romanisation standards of which ISO 259 is a member?
BobKilcoyne (talk) 03:28, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-referential statement 

message: Here is the source, p. 11. מושא עקיף (talk) 00:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The letter <צ, ץ> is /ç/
Talk:Izhitsa

message: Is the mention of Aleut necessary? Just like any other Cyrillic-script language of the late 19th-early 20th century, it had Russian loanwords that thus possibly used that letter. Considering it was not used in a native manner like the other listed language examples, and the statement is citation needed as well (even though the old Cyrillic Aleut orthography listed on Wikipedia does include it, but I haven't checked the sources due to not having easy access to early 20th century Russian linguistic treatises), I don't think keeping that section is necessary. TuxCrafting (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aleut
Talk:James O. Fraser

message: Okay to take down the Reference alarm.  Looks like there are plenty of references, just they have not all been tied to each individual paragraph. I have one of the books with me. Am linking two quotes.Kristinwt (talk) 22:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinating the references 
Talk:Japanese radiotelephony alphabet

message: The Japanese word rusui, appearing in rusui no ru, does not mean absence. Absence is rusu. Rusui, an old form of rusuban, is a person who keeps somebody's house during his absence. Well, you know I'm so poor in English and I don't know the correct English word for rusui, please somebody fix this error. Rija 17:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'house-sitter', the analog of 'baby-sitter'. JohndanR (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

text: There is a Japanese wikipedia article for :ja:留守居, if someone wants a small translation project. Neier 22:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: rusui mistranslation

message: How you say little tsu (っ) in this spelling alphabet? It is needed for doubling of consonants. --juhtolv (talk) 16:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The character is called a sokuon. Don’t know how it’s represented in this system, though. Maybe just by name? —Frungi (talk) 06:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Little tsu?

message: かぎのあるヱ (Kagi no aru "(w)e") is a unique form.  Does it mean something like "the /e/ that looks like a key"? —Tamfang (talk) 20:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to know this too. Also 'n' has "oshimai", what's that about?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.186.125 (talk) 05:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  the obsolescent w-letters 

message: Kwamikagami boldly moved this article from  to its current name back in 2015, stating "not a phonetic alphabet", but if you think about it, it's not an alphabet either―it's a syllabary. It would be nice to find a common or English translation of 和文通話表, but I couldn't even find the English translation of 無線局運用規則 ("Regulation for Operation of Radio Stations"), the ordinance that prescribes this syllabary. Perhaps the optimal name for this article is simply Wabun tsūwa hyō. Nardog (talk) 04:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not phonetic, not an alphabet
Talk:Ƙ

message: Why is this article named for the "not preferred" hook position, according to the body of the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.41.161.50 (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The font that shows the letter Ƙ you see has that shape. See for example: Ƙ, Ƙ, Ƙ, Ƙ; these are the same letter but in different fonts (if you them on your system). --Moyogo/ (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Kaithi

message: I wonder if anyone knows the history of Kaithi? Is it still alive? Was it a language or just a script? Were any books written in Kaithi? If one wanted to archive the literary work availabvle in Kaithi where would one start?
Thanks,
130.212.47.69 (talk) 23:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Kaithi 

message: Are there any reasons why the IPA of the aspirated letters aren't present? I couldn't find any detailed sources on how this script is supposed to be pronounced but I don't see a reason why it shouldn't just have essentially the same entries as the unaspirated ones with the ʰ at the end. --LonleyGhost (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You may have answered your own question.  Wikipedia articles should be sourced. DRMcCreedy (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA of aspirated letters 

message: There seems to be an issue with the table near the end of the article, there is a large gap between the text and the table itself. Any idea how to fix? Om the genius (talk) 14:36, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting error 

message: Is it possible to replace the box with dash with screenshotted images of the script - Flag Mechanic (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure which is the "box with dash".  If you want an image of the Unicode chart, click on the "Official Unicode Consortium code chart" link in the heading.  If you want the Kaithi text displayed, you'll need to install a Kaithi font. DRMcCreedy (talk) 18:51, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-displayability of letters
Talk:Burchardi flood

message: It the picture used in the article actually from this 1634 storm? According to this it is from a storm in 1683? Huldra (talk) 21:59, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct picture?
Talk:Kaph

message: I think "CoF" should be a redirect to Cradle Of Filth, with a disambiguation note about Kaph. --81.219.231.40 15:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

message: I hoped that here I'd find an answer to a question I used to have whenever looking at the alef-bet chart in Hebrew school: When does final ךּ‬ ever get used, given that kaf is one of the letters that's always aspirated at word-end? So it's always ך‬. Not answered here, and I actually can't find any information to pull into the article from outside sources. (Pointed versions: ךָ ךָּ) Can anyone point me to an explanation? Largoplazo (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  ךּ‬ 

message: Similarly to my previous petitioner, I always find final kaph with two dots at the position of a dagesh (and not at the lower position where it normally resides). I originally thought this was a final "ornamental" variant of the dagesh, hence denoting a kaph rather than a khaf. Obviously, it's instead a shva at a visually more appealing position. But I'm still not sure.
Maybe someone can inform us about this phenomenon in the article. --Markus Prokott (talk) 19:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{Script/Hebrew|ךְ}}&#x200E; 

message: The article states:
"Kaf/khaf is the only Hebrew letter that can take a vowel in its word-final form, which is pronounced after the consonant, that vowel being the qamatz."
While this may be true of modern Hebrew, it's not true of Scripture, where the word-final nun also appears on occasion with a qamatz. Not sure how or whether the article should be amended to reflect this. Ted Hopp (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final kaf/khaf isn't the only final-form Hebrew letter that takes a vowel.
Talk:Kashida

message: Can someone provide some examples? Sean M. Burke (talk) 10:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples 

message: I was reading German Wikipedia entry "LOL" and it noted: «In Arabic you can express LOL in two ways: first, as ‏لــول‎ which is a transliteration (of "L O L"), or as ‏هـــا‎ which is read as "ha".»
Note that those have tatweels: l--wl and h---a, stretching ‏لول‎ to ‏لــول‎ and stretching ‏ها‎ to ‏هـــا‎. 
Now, I'm guessing that this has nothing to do with justifying margins-- but that the tatweels mean something.
Maybe someone could please answer, in the article:
Is this just something you normally do, as part of conventional spelling rules, with any sort of word that you want to be taken to be an interjection, as opposed to a normal grammatical word?
Or is the "___" expressing something about the sound of the words? Consider how English would use capitals or italics for volume, and doubling letters for lengthening.  Loud “WELL!” or “Well!”, versus long “Wellllll,...”.  So: is ‏هـــا‎ maybe expressing more like “HAH!” or more like “haaaah!”?  Or is it left up to the reader to figure out? – Sean M. Burke (talk) 11:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use Outside of Just Typesetting? 

message: انسان باشیم 5.214.18.45 (talk) 14:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  انسان باشیم 

message: لامصب 5.121.154.181 (talk) 12:32, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  لامصب
Talk:Romanization of Khmer

message: This article is looking great Dara - well done. Cheers, Paxse 18:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thhis article still needs a loot of improvement, I wouldn't even classify it as a C-class article. --Dara (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

message: I guess I've been under a rock for too long, but I've never read about an official romanization before...any more details? Otherwise I'm removing the offical romanization part as it makes no sense, doesn't even link or give a source or details much into it. --Dara (talk) 19:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like this so-called 'Teesam' romanization was added by very clever spam bots. I've removed them as I can find no source to them. --Dara (talk) 19:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Romanization? 

message: It seems like the romanization section of this page <http://ethnomed.org/culture/cambodian/khmer-language> is a total rip off of this Wikipedia article but doesn't even bother referencing Wikipedia. If it was written in 2008, then I'm sure that author had to come here first while googling 'Khmer romanizations' up in addition to the other sites in it's references section. I must point out though, it is more nicely worded than this the Wikipedia article. I know discussions like these are discouraged, but it's sad to see how people do not like referencing Wikipedia due to academic stigmas. --Dara (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a rip
Talk:Khojki script

message: Is there an image on Commons for a Khojki script manuscript? It would add a lot to the article.--الدبوني (talk) 13:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a quick check and unfortunately can't find one.  It would be helpful.  DRMcCreedy (talk) 14:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added this picture to Commons recently. It is most likely in the Khojki script?--الدبوني (talk) 20:04, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I compared the letters to the Khojki Unicode proposal and it looks like the image is in Khojki script (although I'm not an expert).  I recommend adding it to the article. DRMcCreedy (talk) 02:59, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manuscript
Talk:Korean Language Society

message: toobigtokale, I see (from WP:CFDS) that you have been uodating the article, so hopefully you know more about the subject than I do. The article names Ju Sigyeong as founder, but his article says  I checked the source via archive.org and it is confusing, but JS is unlikely to have founded a society in 1886, when he was ten. The source also mentions JS founding the society in 1908.
On categories I would add JS to :Category:Korean Language Society people and leave the name unchanged. I would change :Category:Korean Language Society incident to :Category:Korean Language Society incident people, which could be a subcategory of :Category:Korean Language Society people. Currently there is a lot of overlap between the people category and the incident category.
 TSventon (talk) 12:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I think your proposal makes sense. I'll try to give the article a once over tomorrow. I mostly just worked on the category. I actually only know high level things about this topic, so will need to read into it. toobigtokale (talk) 12:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article update
Talk:Ku (kana)

message: Both hiragana and katakana clusters can represent both syllables right?  It should be made known on the article.Asrghasrhiojadrhr (talk) 06:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm changing both to kw until someone can explain why they're there at all. kwami (talk) 09:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''q'', ''qw''
Talk:Kvinneby amulet

message: This article is not consistent in its language, i.e. -ize and -ise, among other things. What English ortpgraphy should be used, British or American? –Holt  T•C 10:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the rule is which ever was there first. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Language

message: Found a good bit of this article at
http://www3.hi.is/~haukurth/norse/runes/project1bsolutions.html
The question is, did this take from the WP or WP authors from this Icelandic site? No time to check... --WiseWoman (talk) 22:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Both - it appears to be written by . :bloodofox: (talk) 00:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible URV?
Talk:Kyūjitai

message: Regarding the section Traditional characters that may cause problems displaying, while it is true that the 62 kyūjitai kanji mentioned map to CJK compatibility ideographs when converted from JIS X 0213, this is only done to preserve round-trip compatibility with the set which would otherwise be lost if the characters were mapped directly to their appropriate CJK unified ideographs. In the context of original unicode data, we should instead be using variation sequences to get the kyūjitai kanji. I have already made a few edits to the page to this effect, however the article now needs to be updated to reflect the fact that normalization will not merge variation sequences and that, provided an appropriate font is available, there shouldn't be any issues displaying these kanji.
Soleera (talk) 07:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section needs to be revised 

message: Would it be accurate to describe kyūjitai as broadly equivalent to Traditional Chinese, with regard to kanji forms?  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlap between JA ''kyūjitai'' and Traditional Chinese?
Talk:Ḷ

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Ḹ and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 3#Ḹ until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 13:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ḹ" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Laguz

message: I thought this was a race from Path of Radiance...68.228.42.63 19:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Laṇḍā scripts

message: Can there be an ability to copy and paste the lands script? کامران عمر (talk) 12:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it encoded into Unicode yet? If yes, then there should be a way. ThethPunjabi (talk) 05:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy paste
Talk:Large seal script

message: However, these Zhòuwén or Zhòu graphs are merely examples of that script...
Which "...script..."?
... it is not correct to refer to the ca. 800 BC Zhoū (周) dynasty script as Zhòuwén. Similarly, the Zhòu graphs are merely examples of large seal script when that term is used in a broad sense.
The specificity is extremely confusing.68.148.164.166 (talk) 09:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comments. I have pretty much completely rewritten the page in an attempt to simplify and clarify it. This is a particularly difficult topic because the understanding of modern scholars such as those referenced does conflict with the popular misconceptions of the terms involved and the evolution of the scripts. I'm sure I understand the topic well, but had some trouble explaining it in a way that would be clear to those who had only been exposed to the popular misconceptions. I hope this newer version is better.  Please do give me your feedback. Dragonbones (talk) 16:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|Confusing}}
Talk:List of examples of faux Cyrillic typography

message: Georgia Guy, Why do you say "please only add true examples of faux *Cyrillic*, not everything at all that has backwards Latin letters. A few things that don't go in this list are NIN, Korn, and HOMR."? How are you judging the intent of creators of these titles/logos (that they are not "faux Cyrillic")? - Froese 17:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

message: Some kind of health warning on some of the articles, especially this one, may be in order;  viewing faux Cyrillic text causes me to experience dizziness and nausea. Looking at a page full of it is pretty bad, especially when not actively trying to avoid parsing it. My first language is Bulgarian. I don't know if there is any research into this effect but it's very real. It seems to be similar to the effect of flashing images in bright colours. Krum Stanoev 12:16, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Енд хао ъбаот риидинг инглиш ни сайриллик врайтинг? (SCNR;-) --Wutzofant (✉✍) 00:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  it is not nearly as bad. the problem with the false cyrillic is that it is a mix of two alphabets. mixing different alphabets in a single sentence is not really bad, but mixing different alphabets in a single word sucks because the brain does recognize the different alphabets in a single word but cannot decide to which one to switch. i think you can best compare false cyrillic with Leet speak — Dunkelfalke 22:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think that would be as bad.  You're still using the letters of an alphabet with the appropriate sounds.  It would be comparable if Russian or Bulgarian were written using a font from the Latin alphabet, where the Latin letter looks like the Cyrillic one, i.e., using a "b" for a myagkii znak, or a "P" for the Cyrillic "R".  I can't think of anything offhand where that would work.  Oh, wait, how's this: AHHA AXMATOBA.  Eh, that doesn't really work because the letters are too close to identical to the Cyrillic ones.  Can anybody do better? Sparkyfry 03:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about this, can you think of any other words or names that do not change at all from English/Latin to Cyrillic besides MOM, TOM (noticed this one on a movie poster in Bulgaria for Tom Cruise's new movie), KAT (Acronym for Bulgarian highway police, and common English nickname), and TOTO (Dorothy's dog/Lottery)? Froese 15:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, another attempt (Bulgarian): Pa3bupate jiu toßa? Aaaaax, hauctuha u3rjie*ga ctpawho... :-) --Wutzofant (✉✍) 21:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I just came to the faux cyrillic article again and remembered the pain; people have reported the same problem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Faux_Cyrillic#Health_warning.3F . I'll go ahead and try and find an appropriate tag? Krum Stanoev (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health warning?