Talk:Johann Lamont

message: Do we know why she has such a curious forename - and is the h pronounced or silent? 86.164.25.249 (talk) 08:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that it is a reasonably common Gaelic language version of Joanna, but I only read that on a blog or somesuch (newspaper comment thread?), so not a WP:RS. Mais oui! (talk) 09:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: [Wikipedia page] Perhaps her parents thought she was a male Afrikaaner.14.114.205.215 (talk) 02:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

text: I notice someone's added the pronunciation of her first name to the article, but think we also need to include her surname, as it's pronounced LA-mont as apposed to La-Mont. David Dimbleby made this error on last night's Question Time and she was quick to correct him. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, I had a go at adding IPA for pronunciation and think I've got it right. You may want to double check it though. The second syllable of Lamont is the same as the last in government, rather than in Vermont, if you catch my drift. Hope that helps and doesn't cause further confusion. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation and origin of unusual Christian name

message: On 21 December 2011 I removed the "Religion" field from the Infobox with the Edit summary: "rm | religion = Roman Catholic per WP:BLP - I have tried, and failed, to find a WP:RS for this; if one can be found, please re-add". A day later a single-edit ip address re-added it (unnoticed by me or seemingly anyone else, at the time). Now duly removed again, and it will stay removed until and unless somebody proves it a) to be true, and b) to be notable, per official policy WP:VERIFY. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion field removed (again) 

message: I've found an article from The Daily Record which is apparently her first major interview after taking office. It has some interesting stuff in it that we could use, but but this version from thefreelibrary, and its corresponding HighBeam entry has some of the text missing, so I don't know whether we can use those versions as a reference. Does anyone have the original article from the Record? Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First major interview 

message: I would be quite interested in expanding this if anyone can help. Ideally we should aim to get all articles about major political figures up to at least GA standard, and as leader of the the largest opposition party at Holyrood she is a potential future First Minister of Scotland. Considering her position this article is fairly short, and needs to be more informative. Currently there is a lot online about her recent political career, but very little concerning her early days as an MSP and her career pre-dating her entry into politics. If anyone can help there give me a shout. Meanwhile, I'll start sifting through the sources and put something together. I'll use Ed Miliband as a template. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Another good article setting out her views. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding 

message: Her middle name given here is probably accurate, but I cannot find a clear source for this.  A recent version of this article included a Gaelic version of her name, but it seemed problematic.  It was just taken from a Scottish parliament Gaelic website, it did not include her middle name.  I understand "Nic" means daughter in Gaelic, it does occur in some Gaelic names, but is adding this the normal Gaelicisation of Lamont (actually of Norse origin) and there could be something contradictory about adding this and not changing the "Mac" (son of) in her middle name. PatGallacher (talk) 18:54, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The McDougal element of her name was added anonymously on 29 September 2011. I tend to agree with you that it may be right as nobody has challenged it, but can find no reliable sources to confirm it either, so I think I'll take it out. The Gaelic translation was added on 28 November 2013 by an account that has since been blocked as it was compromised, so that throws up questions about its accuracy. We have the article gd:Seonag NicLaomainn about her and sourced from the Gaelic version of her profile on the Scottish Parliament website (which I can't imagine would be incorrect), but as I've put this forward for GAN, we're probably better off leaving it out for now. Our article on the Scottish Gaelic personal naming system says, "In the case of women, the element Nic is used (derived from nighean mhic "the daughter of the son of")", so I suspect her middle name would also be translated accordingly. Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I've just removed something added a week ago that describes her becoming a member of the National Committee of the National Organisation of Labour Students while she was at Jordanhill College, chiefly because none of the sources actually mention this. I almost didn't spot it, but as this is a BLP anything added needs to come from reliable sources. So as soon as we find one to support the statement then we can pop the information back in. Thanks. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Almost under the radar 

message: We can't use the Daily Record here, per WP:BLPSOURCES. --John (talk) 10:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is Paul (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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