Talk:Hangover

message: Does anyone have any concerns at all that finlandia is probably advertising on this page for free ref: The Congener section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.38.121.205 (talk) 02:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @103.38.121.205 Yes. I couldn't understand how it adds any value to essay. I omitted the pic wen i translated into other language. Same goes with aspirin bottle. Inquisitive creature (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finlandia 

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message: The findings of this new study should be added:
https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2020/04/01/bmjnph-2019-000042
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200430191302.htm
- Largest randomized placebo controlled doublind hangover-interventiontrial performed at Johannes Gutenberg-University Mainz, Germany
- Statistic significant reduction of hangover symptoms through plant extract mix
- Hangover is not caused by dehydration 
- Vitamines and electrolytes do not improve hangover symptoms  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810B:4C0:180C:4490:E99C:F5BA:D016 (talk) 11:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Research BMJ Nutrition & Prevention 2020 

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message: I was surprised to see that this page makes no reference to the history of the term 'hangover', or 'hungover'. There is a common explanation available, although I do not have a reliable source to hand. Maybe the page's authors can add an appropriate reference. The common explanation involves literally hanging over a rope (for a small price), until you've slept it off, and in the knowledge that you're not going to be robbed. See The Real Meaning of Hangover.TonyP (talk) 16:40, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read that rubbish on facebook and did not believe it - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/12/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-hangovers#:~:text=But%20the%20word%20hangover%20has,up%20in%20reference%20to%20alcohol this nespaper article mentions "It first appeared in the English vocabulary in the 19th century as an expression for describing unfinished business from meetings, but it was not until 1904 that the word began to crop up in reference to alcohol."
BUT I do agree for the need of a paragraph or section on the name history as even the wiki-dictionary does not have that either DavidAnstiss (talk) 00:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

text: @DavidAnstiss@Tonyproctor  "The effects of hangovers have been hanging around for ages. The word itself, however, has only been fermenting since the late 19th century. Originally, hangover described someone or something that remained or simply survived, but it was later distilled into common use as a word for the effects of overconsumption of alcohol or drugs. These days, hangover can also suggest an emotional letdown or an undesirable prolongation of notes or sounds from a loudspeaker." Doug Weller talk 15:29, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: History of the Term

message: The cited source about kudzu says that the root is not used in traditional medicine for hangover, but is being touted in west otherwise. But the essay depicts like kudzu is a common hangover cure. This is misleading. I think the paragraph on kudzu can be deleted entirely. Inquisitive creature (talk) 06:19, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's okay to say "it's been marketed but it makes things worse"; we just need to not tout it as a traditional thing. Artoria2e5 🌉 01:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Great, Pueraria lobata in the article refers to the root and not the... binomial name. Gross. --Artoria2e5 🌉 01:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  kudzu root 

message: Epidemiology section mentions about a 1990 study done in new england and cites two sources—1 primary and one secondary. There is a mention about 29% students missing classes due to hangover recovery. While the statement is indeed written in secondary source, it gives the primary source as the reference for its data. However the primary source clearly states that only 25% of the sample reported hangover and 8% lost classes due to it. There is indeed a mention that 29% lost some hours of normal functioning in recovery from drinking. The "in recovery" term wasn't defined by the study and the percentage is obviously higher than the percentage of subjects hungover. Also no allusion was made that "in recovery" translated into school time. Hence I believe this statement is a misinterpretation of primary source by the secondary source. Also since it adds minimal value to the article, if any, I believe the statement and the citation of secondary source for this data can be removed. Inquisitive creature (talk) 17:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , makes a lot of sense, . Thanks! Artoria2e5 🌉 01:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict between sources 

message: # Section society and culture. It has been specified that 3.3 bn USD is lost in wages each year due to hangover as per a british study. The source cited is a review by Wiese et al. However  the study, while mentioning that 3.3 bn usd is lost, specifies hangover as main cause but not the sole cause. The review itself references to another review by crofton.J as the source of this data. The review by Crofton.J, while indeed specifying the figure, doesn't exactly defines the area of loss, but instead refers to another study by Mc Donell & Maynard. The Mc Donell & Maynard study, while specifying the loss, mentions that it is the  loss incurred by industries due to alcoholism of employees, due to several reasons including hangover. However no mention is made to hint that the loss actually refers to wages. I feel this is a misinterpretation by Wiese et al, which was once again misinterpreted by editors here. Since the statement adds little value to essay, I'm of opinion that it should be deleted.
Inquisitive creature (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . You are good at this stuff. --Artoria2e5 🌉 01:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed claim 

message: #Society and culture: Hangover related losses in canada are estimated to be 1.4 bn/year. Wiese et al has been cited as the source for this data. While the source indeed states this, it does so while citing Single.E et al study. However Single.E et al states that the costs are lost due to alcohol related "morbidity". The study makes no attempt to define morbidity or provide various causes of the same. I opine that attribution of entire morbidity to hangover by Wiese et al, is oversimplification at best & misinterpretation at worst, since several potential causes like pancreatitis, gastritis, early liver failure are neglected.
Inquisitive creature (talk) 03:06, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also . Maybe you can be a little bolder and not wait for someone coming in a whole year later, but I guess this works too.--Artoria2e5 🌉 01:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious claim