Talk:Race and crime in the United States/Archive 2

message: I am strongly against the idea of deleting information simply because you disagree with it.  Several others have suggested adding sources or adding text to the article if it is believed to be biased.  Censorship is not the answer.  It is also sad that some have reverted to profanity.  Perhaps a dictionary will aid one in finding words to use which are appropriate.  Typically those who resort to profanity in an intellectual setting do so out of panic or the fact they have no real arguments.  I also think personal attacks and name calling are not neccessary.  Rather than calling someone a name just say why you believe they are wrong.  Is that not more logical? Aseals (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Ideology and Profanity are not apprpriote 

message: Congratulations to the editors - you have produced an article on "race and crime" that completely fails to discuss the issue of racial disparities in crime rates, except stating the percentages in a couple of sentences.  
I would have thought that an article on "race and crime" would actually discuss the issue of racial disparity in crime, and consider the issues surrounding it.  I have not been following this article, but I have noticed a few previous versions that had more information.  I do not know about verifiability of that information, but it is clearly not NPOV to give DUE weight to the topics at hand.  Clearly, where there are disparities in crime between races, this is the article to discuss it, isn't it?  If not, where is that article?
Feichangdao (talk) 01:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree entirely. I think that certain people here consider that this topic may create bias by it's mere existence. So they sabotage it by deleting any new material added, so that only a small meaningless shell remains and they can claim this article is of a low quality and should be deleted. Zzmang (talk) 09:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete? Sanitized? What's up? 

message: DO NOT MERGE. In fact, take 'Race and Crime' down all together. This generalising title; 'Race and Crime' is an example of one of the many 'imaginary' topics that can effect ones outlook on the society and the world in which they live and can both on a sociological and psychological level, incite racism. The subject/topic 'Race and Crime' is meaningless. Crime, in the VAST majority of cases, is not a result of ones DNA, but that of the factors around them; family, friends, neighbourhood, financial situation, emotional condition, ............................... Load of rubbish.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.125.117.111 (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: the term "biological criminology" I take from the title of the best source this article has, Gibson (2002). The title "race and crime" works as a troll magnet more than anything else, and if we're going to discuss the genetic predisposition to crime, we'd best do it under such a title. can also remain a section redirect for now. --dab (𒁳) 08:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

text: This article already exists in a better form under Anthropological criminology, making what remains here appear to be a POV fork for those who believe that the practice of measuring heads is somehow useful to criminologists.  Propose this article be wiped and be made a redirect. NJGW (talk) 21:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Both articles are distinct and different from this one.  This article discusses the correlative link itself, while the others discuss criminology practices.  There's enough content here to justify a separate article.  Nonetheless, if you really want this article wiped you're welcome to suggest it for AfD, though that has been tried once before and was unsuccessful. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 22:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you kidding or blind?  The only sourcable info here so far is the history... which is exactly what this topic is: anachronistic.  How is this different from the AC article?  NJGW (talk) 02:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: The article was redirected to a article different than that in the redirect request. 
#REDIRECT Anthropological criminology
:See discussion above.  Feel free to move over any info you deem important.  NJGW (talk) 22:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with merging Race and Crime to Anthropological Criminology. There has been little attempt to reach meaningful consensus on this issue, I will assume good faith for now. I will talk to you again I'm sure ;-) Zzmang (talk) 01:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirect to article other than that in merge proposal 

message: I don't see a consensus for any merger, let alone a merger that wasn't even proposed. Merging (and deleting most of the data) of a page that survived a deletion attempt seems a lot like going against consensus to me. Why are you doing this?Zzmang (talk) 03:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the discussion section above. Verbal chat 10:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the consensus to merge to Anthropological Criminology? 

message: The title of the article suggests that there could be some general correlation between "race" and "crime". Actually, this correlation might be specific to some countries, and the interpretation would rely on sociological studies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.221.132.194 (talk) 14:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title should be replaced by "race and crime in the USA 

message: I do not agree that www.colorofcrime.com is a reliable source.  It comes from the New Century Foundation, which, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, is a hate group . -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Color of Crime