Talk:Histrionic personality disorder

message: "Pathology increases with the level of intimacy in relationships, which is exactly the same for males. Women may show inappropriate and intense anger masking their internal battle between the quest for intimacy and avoiding pathology."
is pathology the correct word? pathology is the study of disease which doesnt seem to make sense in this context. 
76.190.206.197 (talk) 15:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pathology?

message: "They are emotionally labile and cling to others in the context of immature relationships."
I have never heard the word "labile": before, so I am hesitant to edit this. Is it a medical term, or a misspelling, or what? --DOHC Holiday 21:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Labile means erratic emotionality.  It is a common term in psychiatry. --DashaKat 16:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I understand it to mean "easily changeable" or "not stable" in the fickle sense; not to be "smart" but next time can't you just look it up? (The Free Dictionary is very good, or just go to Google and type define: term).Historian932 (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird word in 3rd paragraph

message: Avoid these people at all costs!
I'm pretty sure I got mixed up with somebody who has got this disorder and I can only say that I'm much happier that I now have nothing to do with them.
:Anon, please do not troll, or at the very least constrain your comments on the talk page to the article. Thank you. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From my experience such people need to be made aware of the disorder by the person they identify with most strongly. It is very difficult to get the sufferer to seek treatment because they have a deep-rooted fear of evaluating themselves. The partner (especially in a long-term relationship) is not the type to divulge the problem on his/ her own and is likely to need counseling also. It takes an incredible amount of patience and strength to shepherd somebody through this. Zoltar 8 11:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Avoiding people 

message: This article needs more citations/footnote references.  Two of the "Outside Links" are well referenced, written by psychiatric professionals, and could be a great source of help in this regard.  Two of the cites on this page are references to as yet non-existent pages on two persons.  Either these pages must be created and referenced, or the material must be referenced from other sources or end up pulled. -I am Kiwi 11:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No thanks, per WP:EL and WP:Reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising commercial sites. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outside links 

message: Appropriate artwork would enhance this article.  For instance, there are paintings of physicians attending to "hysterical female patients" that could be placed alongside the History sectin. -I am Kiwi 11:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Paris Hilton seems to have this mental illness.  I'm no doctor, but she seems to fit the diagnostic criteria like a glove.--aceslead 22:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A good many hollywood/ music industry types would seem to be candidates for evaluation IMO.Zoltar 8 12:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting observation, but even if I were a doctor, I wouldn't try to make a diagnosis based solely on the public image. For all we know, inside that seemingly vapid head of hers is a crazy-like-a-fox mad genius. I doubt it, but I'm just saying... -- RoninBK  T C   10:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This is why there is the age cut-off in the general symptoms of personailty disorder - a lot of teenagers seem to show abnormal personality characteristics that they seem to grow out of. Egmason (talk) 22:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

text: No mental disorder is a disease (IMO) but they can be considered "illnesses"…they're not the exact same thing. ([User:Historian932|Historian932]] (talk) 03:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

text: It was revealed 06-17-2012 that the accused child molester, Jerry Sandusky, will attempt to use Histrionic Personality Disorder in his defense. Zippy47710) (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good candidates for histrionic personality disorder 

message: Could someone add a section in which literary characters or historical figures who likely had this illness could be listed? I think it would help people get a sense of what this disorder is..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.51.239 (talk • contribs)  
:That's a double edged sword though, I seem to spend so much time moving similar lists to seperate list articles before they overwhelm other text? --Zeraeph 17:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only that, it would become an all too tempting target for people to stray from the historical and literary, and violate WP:BLP in the process. Either that, or vandalized, (I briefly considered what would happen if I uploaded a picture of my ex-fiancee, but of course I'd never act on that impulse...) -- RoninBK  T C   10:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: First character that comes to mind is Melanie Griffith's character "Lulu" aka Audrey in "Something Wild".
My high school psych teacher said Goldie Hahns (I know sp) character from the banger sisters seems to have it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxbulldogxx (talk • contribs) 09:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I bet Shiori from MARS has this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.119.14.34 (talk) 03:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Norman Spencer certainly does not have HPD; he likely has borderline personality disorder or sadistic personality disorder. Domineering, controlling behaviour and use of violence to achieve what one wants are not HPD features. When in public he is well-behaved, quiet, reserved and emotionally cold, whereas histrionics are very extrovert, over-emotional, attention-seeking, flirtatious and seductive. Jim Michael (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fictional histrionics

message: Does this article seem to rehash the same things again and again? It seems to list symptoms three times under different headers and twice states that diagnosis is difficult, in different sections. Maybe this should be streamlined?Joyan 16:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Repetitious?

message: Oh My God! This disorder fits me perfectly! I exibit a lot of these symptoms.  What do I Do? El Presidante (talk) 16:01, February 8, 2008  —Preceding comment was added at 01:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because the description is vague and suffers from the problems of the Forer effect BrainMagMo (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forer article 

message: How does the guy below get to evaluate his adulterous "lover" but not himself?!?!    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.39.176.52 (talk) 18:35, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Histrionic/narcissistic personalities 

message: Again (for the nth time), a WikiProject Psychology entry discriminates against men.  Under the "In females" section, woman are (again) described as victims, while under "In males" men are described as perpetrators.  It is quite subtle, but it is there.
This contradicts Wikipedia's NPOV.  I'm sorry, it just does.  Please let's clean this sort of thing up.  Personally I'm rather fed-up with the creeping and insidious feminist misandry that pervades many WikiProject Psychology articles.  It's about time we became objective about it, and stop this "reverse discrimination", where we consistently blame men for the ills of the world.
--Atikokan (talk) 04:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A better approach might be to fix it yourself. Whatever404 (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-male bias 

message: I am troubled by the inclusion of the following:
However, Psychiatrist Dr. Rhoda Hahn supposes that it may be more often diagnosed in women because attention-seeking and sexual forwardness are typically considered to be less socially acceptable for women than for men, and, as suggested by Jonathan Oore, a more efficient means of initial social advancement.
While the quote may be valid and correctly referenced (I have not checked this),
it is my personal opinion (I respect your right to have another opinion) that
including it gives the wrong overall impression. I note, in particular, that
the claim that it is less socially acceptable for women to be attention seeking
is highly dubious: Not only would I consider it highly accepted, but would also
argue that it something that most women do. (I do not have good references at
hand, but The Female Brain could be a starting point. I would also assume
that most others have made the same experience in person, in the first place.)
The corresponding statement about "sexual forwardness" may hold; however, is
rapidly becoming dated.
Further, the very idea that women would be less prone to this disorder verges
on the absurd. When this disorder is discussed (including earlier comments on
this talk page), there are almost invariably reactions along the lines of "All
women have Histrionic Personality Disorder."---indeed, my own reaction has
always been that it is just an extreme form of "normal/typical" female
behaviour.
In effect, Dr. Hahn's claim is comparable to "Men are found to be taller than
2 meters more often than women because tallness is less accepted in men.".
I have added the Disputed-section tag for now.
88.77.153.96 (talk) 09:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed section, opinion of Dr. Hahn 

message: There is nothing in the references cited that suggests that Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT) should ever be used as a treatment for HPD.  I consulted the works cited and amended the treatment section to include valid recommended therapies.  Also, the previously stated assertion that Group Therapy should be avoided altogether is also incorrect, according to the sources; rather, it can be beneficial if moderated.  This has also been noted. Seduisant (talk) 15:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment section 

message: Deleted section on the etymology of the word "Hysteria" because it seemed irrelevant and overly political (for lack of a better word). It didn't really do anything to communicate the definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.101.142 (talk) 04:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont agree. We cant airbrush out historical ideas because these days they wouldnt be considered politically correct. Also it explains the inherent female bias in the concept of "histrionics" and the persecution of "witches". The female bias of HPD remains controversial these days as well. --Penbat (talk) 11:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted section 

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thread_title:  Vampires? 

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thread_title: Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria

message: Below is the reading for the Queen of Wands (reversed) in the Rider Waite Tarot:
Queen of Wands, when reversed: The dark essence of fire behaving as water, such as steam: The natural embodiment of passion and sensuality, who will do anything to the be the center of attention. A seducer who calculatingly dons the guise of what others desire. A cocky and domineering person, who pushes anyone or anything aside to get what she wants. One who is vengeful and quick to take offense without good cause. May indicate infidelity and contempt for a relationship.
Interesting to see that this personality has been noticed for some time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.81.191.1 (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tarot and histrionics 

message: As Abunyp says, "Many of the traits listed are common human behaviours in normal people at various times. Psychiatric conditions are very difficult to diagnose and you certainly cannot diagnose HPD in a person from the description provided in this article. In fact its dangerous to do so."
I highly agree with this statement, and perhaps the most important part of it is that the description provided in this article is insufficient to prove that this is an actual psychiatric condition and not just a certain personality — and I believe that if HPD is to be diagnosed as, or is to continue to be diagnosed as, a bona fide psychiatric disorder rather than just a personality or personality difference, this wiki article is going to have to go out of its way to be a lot more specific than it is right now, in terms of parsing out the clinical certainties having to do with clear differences between a histrionic personality disorder and a histrionic personality.
What exactly makes a "histrionic personality" a "disorder to begin with? I have my skepticism that it can even be called a "disorder" to begin with, but if there are clinical reasons why it can, those clinical reasons are not explicitly stated right now, leading to a wiki article on the phenomenon that freely blurs the lines between the "disorder" form of this thing and the "regular" form of this thing (if there is one). 
One other main concern I have with the classification of this thing as a "disorder" is that the psychiatric community itself doesn't have a psychiatric medication treatment for it that will help it to any degree, large or small, just like they don't have a psychiatric medication for dependent personality disorder either (which itself is a contentious term because apparently there is a non-clinical dependent type of person versus a clinical type of dependent person, the latter of which is assumed to be due to the person's depth of fear; if it's deep enough, the person is clinical and if it's not deep enough, the person is not; this is very ambiguous, unverifiable and dubious). The apparent lack of an ability, according to both the articles I'm mentioning, to give a clear pattern of treatment that can also include medication, in my mind casts severe doubt on the idea that HPD and DPD even deserve to be clinically called "disorders". Most people seem to be aware of the fact that there is a difference between a certain personality that needs psychological help but is clinically 'normal', and someone with a definable personality disorder who needs compulsory long-term psychiatric assistance.
Bottom line, I have major problems with this article, and I think that perhaps the clinically-knowledgeable people over in WikiProject Psychology might help us to get this article more clinical-sounding, as well as perhaps the dependent personality disorder article as well. I'll tag both those articles for review by them, if they aren't tagged as such already. Kikodawgzzz (talk) 17:58, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the distinction you draw is like narcissism v narcissistic personality disorder where a certain amount of narcissism is perfectly healthy, so in theory we should have a separate "histrionic behaviour" or "histrionics" article. --Penbat (talk) 10:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we should, if indeed we want to give the "disorder" version of this article any credence at all--which I guess we have to, considering it's in the psychiatric handbooks as official disorders (ICD-10, the DSMs, etc), and to create controversy by re-titling or deleting this page would probably not go over well with the representatives of the APA and similar organisations. We've already had one lady from the APA on here who has bitched at us about "copyright infringement", so I don't doubt that outright deletion or re-titling of this article to take away the "disorder" classification would probably make for a HUGE backlash. Not that I wouldn't do it anyway, if it were all up to me. Kikodawgzzz (talk) 17:17, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is not sourced enough... 

message: The reason for the long-been iffiness of this article is simple. "[E]xcessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness" are culturally relative phenomenon. Any disorder stemming directly from interactions with "histrionic" types is a social disorder, which ought to be learned in the context of sociology, not psychology, while some of the real personality disorders such as anti-social behavior may be secondary effects partly caused by such social conflicts.siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia86 = 19+9+14 + karma = 19+9+14 + talk 07:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Histrionic personality disorder

message: Histrionic personality disorder, as classified in the DSM, has naught to do with gender and is very rarely even considered as a diagnosis. lianalupe brings a pile of uncited, irrelevant, feminist drivel to this article. Not only has she clearly misunderstood the point & context of the article, she tries to sway the reader with unintelligible use of pretentious wording & new age feminist rambling. I find the idea of anyone reading this article & even remotely correlating it with the standard behavior of women absolutely repulsive, that includes someone who would find the need to write some nonsense to defend the honor of women. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. While the DSM is ever-evolving & a very imperfect guide, homosexuality was removed in the 1986 DSM-III revision. I do believe that was long enough ago to stop qualifying as a good example. Indeed, women were once diagnosed with hysteria, believed to be a uniquely female affliction, and institutionalized. This section would make more sense under the wiki article for hysteria as it is not synonymous with histrionic personality disorder. If you'd like to dispute the validity of the DSM, don't pick & choose which disorders will allow you to flaunt your own bias & "feminazi" propaganda. This is prime example of why Wikipedia, though perhaps one of the best sources for information, is not a valid source for cited research in school papers. I've tried to remove this section once, only to have it magically reappear. If it's that important to you, cite your materials properly & place it in a relevant article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brokencurio (talk • contribs) 00:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the removal of this content as rant/blog material, non-encyclopedic, and extreme WP:POV. --Seduisant (talk) 21:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: the feminist perspective is entirely valid as a point of view (although personally i dont agree with it) - they also criticise borderline PD. But this is just an uncited non-encyclopedic rant and i support removal.--Penbat (talk) 21:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

text: I wouldnt object if it was much more concise, focused and properly sourced.--Penbat (talk) 12:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "L. Gutierrez"/feminist rant section 

message: Histrionic Personality Disorder is more often diagnosed in women than men, and when diagnosed in men often associated with homosexuality.(See: "Clinical applications of cognitive therapy," p. 260)
That would be Gay or BI.
They routinely attach sexual motivations to other people while denying any in themselves, and are superficial, insincere, and shallow with others.(See: "The new Harvard guide to women's health," p. 457-458)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petey Parrot (talk • contribs) 21:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Everyone is gay

message: Are celtic people more likely to have histrionic personality disorder?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.103.144.156 (talk) 09:18, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I sincerely doubt it, most mental disorders have *relatively* stable rates across ethnocultural groups (although how they get manifested, and how they are best treated, can vary widely according to cultural content). Why would you think this would be the case with Celts? If anything I would like people from groups like Italians and/or Middle Easterners (especially Semitic ones [meaning both Jews and Arabs]) *living in Euro-American cultures* would tend to get overdiagnosed…perhaps you think Celts are more likely to act out because the culture is *generally* less emotional (so people's feelings build up and then explode)? (or don't you agree with that stereotype to begin with?) P.S. A great book on the relationship between psychology and ethnocultural background is "Ethnicity and Family Therapy"; they release a new edition every few years I'm sure there are chapters on Irish, Angl-Americans, etc. maybe even Welsh. Historian932 (talk) 03:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: HPD is most common in Latin/hispanic people. Jim Michael (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celtic people? 

message: What is the basis for the "warning" at the top of the article differentiating between Histrionic Personality Type and Disorder insofar as it defines one as "clinical" and the other as not…what real meaning does that have? (Because some "professionals" choose to define one of them as such? I don't think that changes the person or their behavior.) Historian932 (talk) 03:22, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the "warning" into this talk thread because it's a non-standard warning, and replaced it with . Here's what it said: "" It was added on Oct. 14, 2010 by . Hopefully that helps. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 22:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clinical? 

message: The DSM-V is proposing a somewhat controversial revamping of personality disorders. The proposed revision needs to be copied here (under fair use) and explanation of the nature of the inclusion of this disorder into the narcissistic/antagonistic subtypes. I unfortunately do not have access to reliable sources. John Holly (talk) 01:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  DSM-V proposed changes 

message: Removed the 'Ruth E' nonsense that's been there for 6 years unchallenged.  
It was added by an account whose only edits (all from 2006-2007) were vandalism - varying from dding single nonsense sentences to this, cyanide, and cat breed articles .. to simply blanking the declaration of independence text.  This has been challenged explicitly for some 9 months now and no cite can be found.  In fact, discussions exist trying to find this fictional character as a result of the claim in this article.  The linked external thread suggests perhaps the ~1850ish 'Anna O' might be the real source, but that doesn't agree with the actual sentence in the article as it currently stands (a landmark case illustrating the DSM-IV revisions).  
The edit in question that inserted it:
     05:23, 7 November 2006‎ 216.48.13.116 (talk)‎ . . (10,214 bytes) (+119)‎ . . (→‎History of the DSM-IV diagnosis) (undo)
By all means check the user page for that IP and see the other contributions.   If any source can be found for this material (that predates 2006, to avoid possibility of self-referencing) by all means re-add it.  The pre-2006 requirement shouldn't be onerous if the claim is true, since to influence the DSM-IV the case would have to have been widely publicized prior to 1996.  
Tofof (talk) 08:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruth E 

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thread_title: Impact of recent student edits

message: The characteristics section says that histrionics have a 'limited or minimal capability of experiencing love', yet one of the DSM criteria is 'considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are'. This apparent contradiction should be clarified / corrected in the article. If a histrionic cannot truly love, how is it that she considers someone she first met last week as her dream lover or best friend? Limited capability indicates that they cannot feel strong attachments to anyone, yet more intimate that it actually is suggests quick, strong attachment and connection. Histrionics are prone to becoming depressed when a relationship or friendship ends. If she doesn't feel love or attachment, why is she very upset and depressed when rejected? Histrionics are typically good-looking and have good social skills, so they can easily, quickly find new partners / friends to replace them. They're never going to be alone (unless they want to be, which is unlikely) and they are certainly not in the slightest bit shy or reserved in approaching people they like, so why do they feel so unhappy when someone leaves them? 188.29.4.50 (talk) 12:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The statement in Love is miss-cited - that is to say the sources contradict the statement. It should be removed.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I had commented on this claim above, noting that it did not seem correct to me; I found the relevant section of the cited text available online at Personality Disorders: Recognition and Clinical Management on page 75 passim; I can't find any support there for the claim that HPD involves a "minimal capacity for experiencing love", so I'm going to go ahead and delete it. - thanks! - bonze blayk (talk) 06:24, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love 

message: Your link to Briquet's Syndrome actually links to Somatization Disorder (also Briquet's Syndrome or Hysteria) and contains an additional link to hysteria.  
The hysteria article contains this quote "Many now consider hysteria to be a legacy diagnosis (i.e., a catch-all junk diagnosis),[4] particularly due to its long list of possible manifestations: one Victorian physician cataloged 75 pages of possible symptoms of hysteria and called the list incomplete.[5"   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteria
Histrionic personality disorder is the newest term for hysteria.  The somatic symptoms are a component of the personality.  Thus Briquet's Syndrome or Hysteria or Histrionic Personality disorder are interchangable, depending on context. 
From free dictionary.com: 
Hysteria 
Definition
The term "hysteria" has been in use for over 2,000 years and its definition has become broader and more diffuse over time. In modern psychology and psychiatry, hysteria is a feature of hysterical disorders in which a patient experiences physical symptoms that have a psychological, rather than an organic, cause; and histrionic personality characterized by excessive emotions, dramatics, and attention-seeking behavior'.  http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hysteriadisorder
Re:  histrionic and psychopathy:
"The current edition of the PCL-R officially lists three factors (1.a, 1.b,, and 2.a), which summarize the 20 assessed areas via factor analysis. The previous edition of the PCL-R[5] listed two factors. Factor 1 is labelled "selfish, callous and remorseless use of others". Factor 2 is labelled as "chronically unstable, antisocial and socially deviant lifestyle". There is a high risk of recidivism and currently small likelihood of rehabilitation for those who are labelled as having "psychopathy" on the basis of the PCL-R ratings in the manual for the test, although treatment research is ongoing.
 
PCL-R Factors 1a and 1b are correlated with narcissistic personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder. They are associated with extraversion and positive affect. Factor 1, the so-called core personality traits of psychopathy, may even be beneficial for the psychopath (in terms of nondeviant social functioning)" See  Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist
Again, you are seeing more or less interchangeable terminology in regard to anti-social, sociopath, psychopathology depending on the context or author and his or her gut feeling for the words.
(Correctdiscern (talk) 02:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, feel free to add statements that are supported by Reliable Sources.  This is all Original Research, [or Synthesis - bonze blayk (talk) 07:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Briquet's Syndrome 

message: cause when you think of it, any personality type outside of the norm (and what's normal anyway, etc) can be cleverly written into some sort of disorder. And I think this one sounds entirely silly and made up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.141.164 (talk) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's real and clearly defined by the APA and the WHO. Some of its characteristics are exaggerations of a normal sexy, chatty extrovert. However, things like the excessive emotionality and the need for a huge amount of praise, compliments, appreciation, admiration and reassurance are not normal. There is a difference between someone who merely has some histrionic tendencies, and the one in a hundred men and one in twenty-five women who have HPD. A histrionic will likely become depressed if she does not recieve a great deal of positive attention from many admirers. She will likely be horrified and upset if she gains weight or develops lines on her face. Jim Michael (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sounds more like a personality type 

message: Lots of talk says avoid these people at all costs.  Some talk says avoidance isn't the answer and may, in fact, make the person's behavior worse.  Everyone seems to say that talk therapy and, maybe, drug therapy can help.
If the person is a family member rather than a lover, you might not be able to just walk away.
If avoidance is actually counter productive, that's not the answer.
You cannot control the actions of a family member.  You cannot make them seek treatment if they don't see the need for it themselves.
Nothing that I've found gives insight on how to properly interact with a family member that may have this disorder.  Does anyone have any such insight?  Where can I read about effectively interacting with a such family member?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.212.116 (talk) 20:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Medication does not help HPD. However, most histrionics also have other mental disorders, some of which can in some cases (eg. mood disorders, ADHD) be controlled with medication. Talking therapy is what works best for HPD, but not group therapy - imagine twenty histrionics in the same room together! However, although histrionics tend to frequently (often too frequently) seek medical treatment for other health problems, they don't tend to seek treatment for their HPD. They are proud of how sexy, charming and popular they are. HPD has significant advantages and they don't want to be ordinary or average. This article, and the other PD articles, need more on how PDs affect the people around them and what the professionals' advice is on how to moderate their behavior. Jim Michael (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interactions with family 

message: What is a histrionic's empathy like? The empathy article does not mention HPD. The ICD has lack of consideration for others as a feature of HPD. Histrionics are self-centred, egocentric and shallow, which seems to suggest a lack of empathy. However, they are very gregarious and typically have good social skills, which would seem to indicate normal empathy. Jim Michael (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Empathy]] 

message: I wish to contribute to this article by adding a sentence under the heading HPD and antisocial personality disorder under Causes. I am a third year undergraduate psychology student at the University of Florida and in my Abnormal Psychology textbook they discuss research from family studies that were conducted which showed evidence that this disorder tends to cluster in families. The article mentions that there is very little research done on biological or genetic causes of histrionic disorder so I thought this piece of information might contribute to a better understanding of the causes of this disorder. Suecig (talk) 00:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Edit 

message: I want to contribute a bit of extra information of the epidemiology section, since it is in need of expansion. I'm a first year undergraduate Psychology student at the University of Florida, and there is a peer review article by Disney, Weinstein, and Oltmanns that discusses that people with HPD are more likely to become divorced or separated from their significant others due to their desire to constantly seek attention from others. Now, I have the source material but I just wanted to be entirely sure that this statement would accurately fit within the epidemiology subcategory or if I should search for another subheading to place this information in! (Vhernandez20 (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to the subheading "Epidemiology" 

message: Fix this sentence fragment.
"One concept labeled as hysterical neurosis (also known as conversion disorder)[31] and the other concept labeled as hysterical character (currently known as histrionic personality disorder).[29] "
100.15.120.122 (talk) 12:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  bad English 

message: Under the History section the article states "The history of histrionic personality disorder stems from the word hysteria.[29]" The word roots for 'histrionic' and 'hysterical' are different. Histrionic derives from the Latin word for actor, histrio. Histrionic is derived from hysterikos, the Greek word for womb.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.172.97 (talk) 00:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Histrionic vs. hysterical 

message: Is this really necessary? This should really be covered (and is already partially covered) in the Epidemiology section. I don't see why this particular point needs to be outlined in the opening paragraph, especially before the general rates in the population? If anyone has a good reason for this I'd like to hear it. 2A01:388:2AD:112:0:0:1:2 (talk) 10:16, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Female diagnosis rates in opening paragraph 

message: Hi I would like to discuss whether there has been any of you that has made the link between the attachment theory of John Bowlby and Mary Ainsworth and Histrionic personality disorder. I know a friend whose girlfriend experienced trauma in her family and has developed attention seeking though the behaviors are somewhat suppressed at this point through personal beliefs. I would love to hear some feedback. Thethinkingaddict (talk) 07:27, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attachment theory - attachment disorder consequence 

message: Way down in this long, repetitive, biased article, sit the words, "there is no test to confirm this diagnosis." An article like this perpetuates a made up "diagnosis." There is no test to confirm it because it's made up by academic psychiatrists. Juliet Sabine (talk) 06:45, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  I suggest deleting this article 

message: intro-
a prefix, meaning “inwardly,” “within,” occurring in loanwords from Latin (introspection); occasionally used in the formation of new words (introjection). Dictionary.com
extra-
a prefix meaning “outside,” “beyond,” freely used as an English formative: extrajudicial; extraterritorial; extra-atmospheric. Dictionary.com
extro-
variant of extra-  (used to contrast with intro- ): extrovert. Dictionary.com
So what's the argument here? Ignorant people have misspelled it for a century so one of the world's leading sources of information should misspell it?
Extro is not a word, except as an incorrect way to spell another word. No matter how much @ButterCashier disagrees with this. You may as well disagree with the sky being blue.
As Carlin said: Try to pay attention to the language we all agreed on. To Infinity and suchlike (talk) 12:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dr. Jung says it's ExtrAverted, because ExtrOverted is just bad latin." 

message: Again those with flamboyant self-expression through appearance, body art, and modifications get targeted by the supposed "professionals" who should be advocating for self-expression, however flamboyant, as an extremely important and healthy part of an individual's personal identity. It's like they’re trying everything they can to keep those who look different in flamboyant ways such as art and ink from being fully accepted in society. Kicking a marginalized group while it's down. We don't even have legal protections against discrimination for our appearances and they’re still considered a mere "choice." So now flamboyant self-expression through appearance is part of the criteria for a disorder? 2601:98A:400:9B60:5DF5:411A:2973:13AA (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flamboyant appearance