Talk:Quebec French/Archive 1

message: The accuracy of the following sentence is in doubt: "Quebecois French is also partly rooted in the Royal French spoken at King Louis XIV's Court (see King's Daughters or Filles du Roi)." 
It seems to say that the King's Daughers are, or at least spoke, Royal French. Which is not true at all. King's Daughters were commoners and not related to the royalty. The name is merely metaphorical. 
I have relocated the "see King's Dauthers" part, but I'm still not sure about if the sentence is true at all. Would somebody confirm? --Menchi 21:17 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
: The Filles du Roi spoke the French of Ile-de-France which includes Paris. Royal French was the only official French before 1789. These girls partly explain why there are very little traces of many of France's patois in Quebec. Please Read: http://www.tlfq.ulaval.ca/axl/francophonie/HISTfrQC_s1_Nlle-France.htm -- Mathieugp
:There are a number of phonological archaisms in Québécois French.  The one that is most striking --- not apparently touched on in the article, is the pronunciation of the diphthong written "oi," which is realised as /wa/ in standard French and /we/ in Québécois.  When king Louis XVIII of France was restored after the final fall of Napoleon, a possibly apocryphal anecdote has Talleyrand telling him to adopt /wa/ rather than /we/, an older pronunciation associated with the aristocracy, so as not to offend his subjects.  This is not evidence that aristocrats peopled New France, but it does show that the French of Québéc keeps these older versions.   -- Smerdis of Tlön 16:36, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal French and King's Daughters 

message: I've heard plenty of younger speakers on Quebec TV rolling their Rs. Might this not be rather a regional pronunciation? Intervocalic r seems to be rolled lightly by most Québécois. Jfitzg
:Rolled r (better called thrilled r), was indeed the r used traditionaly in the French of France. Read what I wrote just above. Hardouin 18:41, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rolled Rs 

message: Removed reference to 'franglais' since its Wikipedia article doesn't apply to this situation. Tremblay 00:16, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franglais 

message: How about we move the huge lexicon section to its own article? Would Quebec French lexicon be a good choice? Are there examples to follow in Wikipedia or would we be pioneers? -- Mathieugp 12:27, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is an excellent idea, dont acte. Both the new and the old articles need lots of work by the way—I'll invest some in the next few weeks, promis. --Valmi 23:21, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quebec French lexicon 

message: I changed some notations to make them "true" API, but I'm afraid that it may be awful on older computers. I'm concerned specially about the diphtongue notations, they were totally wrong and had to be fixed, but this "double-short diacritic" I was said is hard to render properly. Inputs? --Valmi 02:35, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Unicode and API

message: Say, why is this article under the Dubious Category? --Liberlogos 00:58, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The R bit is dubious – "dubious" means one information is "contested"; I am actually marking my own edit that way, see previous subtitle and User_talk:Gilgamesh#Non-uvular_R.27s_in_Quebec. --Valmi 04:56, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious, you say...?