Talk:Lord British

message: :That's already in the external links section, proving the assassination of Lord British is notable and well referenced.  Dream Focus 05:35, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Did not Lord British also appear in the Korean MMORPG entitled "Lineage:  The Blood Pledge"?
I know at least that it was intended that he would do so, but it appears to me that few have ever seen him in-game.
We know at least that the production of Tabula Rasa has been performed under the banner of NCSoft (the Developer/Publisher of the Lineage games) since they offered a merger with Destination Games (a newly-founded company which was run by Richard Garriot and his brother; Robert Garriot) which was accepted.
--User:Fraek 21:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean MMPORPG 

message: Originally Shamino was one of Richard Garriott's aliases:  in particular it was his alias for SCA.  He came up with the name because SCA requires everyone to pick a name, and he noticed the name Shimano on his bike, which he misread as Shamino.  (Reference:  The Utlimate Book of Ultima)
Someone please clarify who his "friend Shamino" is, or remove the reference.
:This section of the article is referring to the character Shamino (also a pseudonym of Garriott's), and not some real-life individual. Mvidales
Currently the article reads "The name Cantabrigian British is taken from his birthplace's name, Cambridge in the United Kingdom. The name was given to him by his friend Shamino, and later Cantabrigian British decided to leave his old name in favor of the new one." This seems confusing.  "Cantabrigian British decided to leave his old name" means to me that Cantabrigian British is the old name.  So what is the new name?
Douglips 16:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Cantabrigian British" is the new name.  The old name is unknown and is the given name of the character during his time on Earth.  After Cantabrigian British came to Earth via the moongate, he befriended the character Shamino.  Shamino influenced the now Cantabrigian British in changing his name to "Cantabrigian British". Mvidales 05:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do you mean "his friend Shamino" ? 

message: Do we absolutely need this as a complete section? The term doesn't seem to be wide-spread at all, I get 6 Google hits and that's including Wikipedia mirrors... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 09:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and basically, "Some Blogger Said This" is a bit weak as a source, don't you think? Perhaps this should be reconsidered. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 09:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've certainly never heard of it.  Maybe someone is using Wikipedia to start something?  Whenever the number of Wikipedia mirrors outnumbers the number of real-world sources, it should be removed. C-Blade 02:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and edited it to show a proper source, but I'm not sure it needs its own section either. It's really little more than an MMO-specific version of "if it has stats, we can kill it". Technogeek (talk) 23:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Beleted. Not notable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.196.38 (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Lord British Postulate 

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message: I'm pretty sure I read that he was born in the UK and moved to Texas at a young age, but to the local kids he still seemed to have an accent for much of his childhood, hence the nickname. Sorry about the lack of sources, but perhaps this could be looked into? It certainly seems odd that someone should be referred to as "Lord British" because they say "Hello" instead of "Hey". I've never been called Alien Overlord, despite saying "Greeting" since a very early age.
Here we go: http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,483/ - see also your wikipedia article on Richard Garriott. Funny that one article should have the info correct and another should have it completely absurd. Ah well, such is the wiki.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.20.97.220 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of IRL nick 

message: A couple of the sources just lead to deleted pages...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.145.113 (talk) 23:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: The Official Book of Ultima says there was no way to kill Lord British in Ultima 4 or Ultima 5.  Page 31 says that.  Can someone confirm the methods used to kill him in the article for Ultima 4 actually worked? Dream Focus (talk) 20:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean for the other Ultimas?  The Official Book of Ultima list everything from Ultima 1 to 6, and what happened during that time period concerning the Ultima series and their creator Richard Garriott.  It does mention you can kill anyone in their sleep in Ultima 6, but doesn't say it had to be a glass sword, as mentioned in the article.  I've played all the Ultimas and know the other methods listed for 7 and after, are successful, however for a reference there should be game sites out there that mention it.  I saw on YouTube someone posted a video on how to poison the bread and kill Lord British in Ultima 9.  I'll go get some links. Dream Focus (talk) 13:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBopehJuD-E There is a video showing on the NES version of Ultima 4, that the method listed could defeat him in battle.  Once the battle is over though, he is still shown alive and well on his throne. Dream Focus (talk) 13:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Official Book of Ultima says there was no way to kill Lord British in Ultima 4 

message: Lord British isn't just a major character in an extremely notable game franchise, but also the nickname of legendary game designer Richard Garriott.  See here: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/697376/Richard-Lord-British-Garriott-Speaks-On-Indie-Games.html  Dream Focus 08:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Richard Garriot is notable. Are there any bits of third party making the character this article is about?  The sources in those books are pretty obviously talking about Garriot exclusively from what I can see. And being someone's nickname isn't enough grounds to keep a whole character article.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:00, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lord British is notable because- 

message: Either start discussing, or stop reverting each other and edit war. Thanks, Sir Lothar (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you see above, we are discussing it.  Dream Focus 16:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, I appreciate that, Sir Lothar (talk) 17:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dream Focus + KungFuMan 

message: Computer Gaming World - March 2006 featured an article about the UO assassination.  All of the deaths were listed in every gaming magazine there was back when those games came out.  Finding archives of old magazines around at that time, is proving somewhat difficult though.  The events have proven very newsworthy though.  Found a major news site mentioning the character Lord British was back as General British.   Dream Focus 23:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Every game guide out there ever published about Ultima, mentions this notable aspect, even though you don't need to know it to complete the game, and in fact it could potentially prevent you from doing so in some games.  I don't think it needs more references added.  Showing how a game character, Lord British, had a notable reoccurring bit in the games, is something the article should have.  Dream Focus 17:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lord British's death section has had massive amounts of coverage 

message: This article is being discussed. Ikip (talk) 21:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Lord_British]]

message: I believe mentioning a key point about Lord British, he being his assassination in every game, and listing how it was done, is quite appropriate.  Each assassination event is from a different game, getting plenty of coverage on its own at the time.  And much of the other information deleted, is perfectly valid for an article as well.  After the changes at the top, I'm against all of the rest of it.  Why erase the fact that the rights to the name Lord British were kept by its creator when he left, and that he appeared in his next game as General British?  That and other facts are quite appropriate for the article.  Also, I am concerned that the editor doing these sudden mass deletions of the article, is the only editor who said to delete the Avatar (Ultima) article when he nominated it for AFD, it closing as Keep today.  Someone who already stated their opinions the Lord British article should not exist, shouldn't be the one editing it.  It seems like pointless mass destruction of valid content to me.  I'm reverting it.  Please discuss any major changes, such as destroying more than half of the article's content, on the talk page.  Dream Focus 02:59, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have restored it.  Replacing "Avatar" with "protagonist", is rather ridiculous.   Dream Focus 03:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: First, being able to kill a character and then detailing how is a bit much: Doctor Wily does not detail every damn appearance of him as a final boss. Second, the character "Avatar" was not called such until the fourth game from what I read, meaning "protagonist" is just fine. And lastly, a mass revert like that is disruptive, and reeks of WP:OWN. If you believe this is detrimental to wikipedia, I suggest you take it up with an admin.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:12, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In all games from 4 onward he was called Avatar, and the history in every single one of these games, says it was he who was the hero in the first age of darkness(the first three games).  Disruptive is you mass deleting half an article, just to have an excuse to merge it.  That is the reason you did it isn't it?  You seem to indicate that over at: Talk:List_of_Ultima_characters#Merge%20discussion  Dream Focus 03:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Dream Focus, seriously, calm the hell down and assume some good faith and less conspiracy hogwash. You want to keep the article, start adding real-world information like character reception and development info. Great, he gets killed and people noted it. That really takes all of one or two sentences to cover. What else do you have?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Focus on the other content you erased please, not just that one thing.  Dream Focus 03:20, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I erased what I felt was trivia: sentences bloated with peacock words and other text that could say the same thing in a smaller more concise context, game-guide material such as how to kill a character or whether he charges to heal you or not (this isn't GameFAQs), and material that wasn't related entirely to the article (we don't have to go into depth by someone that killed British got banned: he's not the article's focus). Right now the In-Universe tag has been removed, meaning that it just needs notability proven and references. Can you do that? Right now all you're doing is proving you have ownership issues with the article.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudden deletion of half of the article 

message: "Lord British" AND "Ultima" get 316  results in Google News search.  I added in something from Wired magazine about how the assassination of the character in Ultima Online, caused a protest, giving players an unprecedented ability to change and influence the game.  Quite the historic event.  Dream Focus 11:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And how many of those are about the importance of Lord British as a character in the real world? Not a hell of a lot is there?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article mention involves how it got noticed by game developers, and influenced future development in these sorts of games.  That's real world importance.  Although you don't need to prove importance for an article, only coverage.  Obviously, there is no real world importance in most popular movies and whatnot, but we have articles for them.  Dream Focus 15:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lord British" AND "Ultima" get 316  results in Google News search 

message: If a musician can have an article for the name they publish music by, such as  Prince or  Madonna, why not someone like Lord British, which gets mentioned in news articles quite often?  That is the name Richard Garriott goes by a lot.  All of his Ultima games have on the cover, "Lord British presents".  Dream Focus 11:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you even attempting to make sense anymore? The only article about Prince is that one. Prince Rogers Nelson is just a redirect. Feel free to move Richard Garriott to this article. That would be funny to watch. TTN (talk) 14:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  All musicians have articles for the names they go by, so why not other celebrities? 

message: I have no experience with editing wikipedia, but link #10
"Top 5 Most Memorable Events in MMORPG History". Mmocrunch.com. 2008-08-26. Retrieved 2012-02-16.
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