Talk:River Tyne

message: I have proposed moving this page, as River Tyne is a disambig page for the English and the Scottish river but almost all links for the English river go to that page.  MeltBanana 15:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: Have you never noticed that on a fork the points are called 'tynes', and they all meat up at the bottom. Therefore is it possible that the origin of the name River 'Tyne' is because the main river is from two smaller ones (north Tyne, south Tyne) which join together to form a fork like shape?
Take a look of an Ariel view and you will see
Interesting but I would guess not. I think Tyne may have Norse origins but really I have no idea! All rivers have tributaries and where they converge is a confluence and it may form a fork shape. The Tyne is not unique in this aspect. Having said that, it is still an interesting shape. Has anyone else got any thoughts? hedpeguyuk 18:45,  April 2006 (UTC)
However the north and south tynes both meet up at the same point, and then from that merge in to one main body. Tributaries can join a river at any stage. Also, they both join at similar angles to the main river body forimg a >- shape, so it is not as if they join at rightangles, because that would have no resemblence of a fork at all.
:The all-encompassing North East History Website says that "Tyne is an ancient Celtic river name which occurs more than once throughout the British Isles. It may simply mean river." Henriksdal 22:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the word Tyne 

message: Would you please consider linking your River Tyne web page via an external link to my website which is about all the bridges on that river at http://www.bridgesonthetyne.co.uk
Derwent 22:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  link from your web page 

message: This article sorely needs more information more easily accessible. Can somebody with the info put up an  please? Or I'll do it myself at some later date. --Storkk 12:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: The caption under the picture on top of the infobox says: "The River Tyne, Northumberland", but to me this looks like the Tyne east of Newcastle, i.e. South Tyneside and North Tyneside, which lies in Tyne and Wear. --Sigmundg (talk) 19:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Canny picture bi the way. --Sigmundg (talk) 20:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyne and Wear, not Northumberland 

message: Was there a discussion concerning which image should be in the infobox. At some point, an image of Newcastle/Gateshead bridges was replaced by a photograph taken from Bill Quay. In my opinion, the bridges are more recognisable and distinctive of the Tyne; the current photo could really be any river. The JPStalk to me 14:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image in the infobox 

message: There is a strong folk song and music tradition around the Tyne and  there are a large number of traditional songs which mention the Tyne which are not listed on the main page. For example:
Coaly Tyne, 
Waters of Tyne (already listed),
Jock o' the Side,
Geordie Black,
The Skipper's Dream,
Fireman do your Duty,
John Spencer,
Waggoner,
The Sailor Likes his Bottle-O,
The Kielder Hunt,
The Bladon Races,
The Battle of Otterburn,
Navvy Boots (one version),
Fair Mary of Wallington,
Derwentwater's Farewel.l
One of the best known Tyneside songs, and one that has many versions, does not mention the Tyne by name, but is certainly about the Tyne and its ships, and that is:
Weel may the Keel Row.
Should these be included? And a reference to the source of many of them,  The Newcastle Song Book or Tyne-Side Songster., W&T Fordyce, Newcastle Upon Tyne.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jer16 (talk • contribs) 22:59, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Belated reply, but I think the section should just be a summary - it does not need a comprehensive list. There are probably too many songs included already...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songs Featuring the Tyne 

message: Follows on from above, is it me or is this article slowly turning into a list of bridges over the Tyne. They could probably do with being turned into a separate article...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: List_of_crossings_of_the_Charles_River has more columns with more data of interest about each crossing.  It is also a separate article.Its parent artcile. Charles_River also has much more info than the River Tyne.Both could be guides to improving this artcile. — Lentower (talk) 13:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Bridges

message: Given the links to 'North Tyne' and 'South Tyne' return to the same page (River Tyne) would it not be a good idea to actually include the length of each of the individual tributaries? This would be so anyone wanting to decide how long the Tyne is from source to sea, not just the length of the nominal River Tyne, can find out for themselves.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallovidian428 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of individual tributaries 

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message: This matter has been addressed twice above but to return to it once again. . .  The length given for the Tyne currently is quite close to its probable actual length (more than can be said for many a river article in Britain) and is referenced back to Owen et al 2005. The Tyne River Trust use the same figure and could also be used as a reference though did they derive their figure from Owen or the source which Owen used or, direct from Wikipedia - anyway that's tangential. 
A previous contributor makes the sensible suggestion that the length of both the north Tyne and the South Tyne be given so as to enable the reader to better understand where the overall figure comes from and make their own judgement as to the river's length - problem is finding a reference for such figures. Editor Ope47 and an IP contributor both offered up lengths for the S Tyne, N Tyne and combined main stem Tyne back in 2016. I've made my own measurements recently and the figures which emerge are these; i) combined Tyne (56.km/35.1 miles from confluence at Warden to entry into 'River Tyne Entrance' (roughly county limit marked on OS 25K mapping) or, if you prefer 58.5km/36.3 miles to point between North and South piers /entry into open sea), ii) South Tyne 64.2km/39.9 miles from its source (now marked by cairn and sculpture) to its confluence at Warden, iii) North Tyne 65.0km/40.4 miles from source at Deadwater Rigg to confluence. 
An oddity with the North Tyne (and it shares this with the Thames and its tributary the Cherwell) is that one of its tributaries is rather longer than the river itself. Water falling just across the Scottish border on the eastern slopes of Carlin Tooth enters a stream known as 'Black Needle' which feeds into Scaup Burn which feeds in turn into Kielder Burn which then meets the watercourse named as the Tyne at the village of Kielder. Water describing that route has traversed an extra few kilometres to get to that spot than has water starting at the top end of the Tyne. So taking the longest tributary as the length of the river system you arrive at something like 129km as the greatest length (56+65+8) of the river system. But tradition (for whatever reason) has it that the Tyne is the shorter watercourse, giving 121km. All the figures above are original research on my part so, quite rightly should not find their way into the article but they do give a guide to what accurate external references might look like when they are found.  thanks Geopersona (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  River length revisited