Talk:Fortification

message: Any German speakers looking to work on our fortification articles might like to look at  some of the pretty good German Wikipedia articles on fortification linked from de:Fachbegriffe Festungsbau and category de:Kategorie:Befestigungsanlage. Securiger 13:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: German Wikipedia

message: The following lines are confusing and since I'm not clear what they are trying to say I can't edit them.  I'm flagging this as needing cleanup in the hopes that someone more knowledgable can take a look at it.
"Star forts of the cannon era did not fare well against the effects of high explosive, and the intricate arrangements of bastions, flanking batteries and the carefully constructed lines of fire for the defending cannon could be rapidly disrupted by explosive shells."
- Why were they disrupted any more easily by explosive shells than non-explosive shells?
*Prior to the development of high explosives, the majority of damage was done by the momentum of solid cannon balls. The point of the star forts "bastion trace" layout was to prevent the enemy firing directly at the walls, by sinking them into ditches fronted by earth banks, which were swept by defensive cannon fire. Shooting up into the air and having the shot simply fall onto the fortifications was a lot less damaging, especially as the upper surface of the fortification was simply large piles of relativly loose earth specifically to absorb the energy of falling cannon balls. With the development of high explosives, the falling shells embed themselves into this earth and explode, delivering much much more damaging amounts of energy against the fortification.--Shoka 22:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: October 2005

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message: The excessive use of bold text in the opening is a bit distracting, and I personally think it detracts from the article. Anyone mind if I remove these and replace them with links where necessary? Montag 04:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive boldness 

message: How about separate sections for permanent fortifications and field fortifications, and examples of the later with some explanation of their use throught he ages, construction, and tactical context?--Mrg3105 (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate sections 

message: The history section currently begins in the 14th century. Anyone able to add anything from older times?--Kotniski (talk) 11:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Are machine gun nests considered fortifications?--Commander v99 (talk) 20:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Machine gun nest 

message: Children's Forts.
I found the section that discussed building forts, particularly materials used.
At an appropriate point, I inserted something along the lines of "Many children enjoy building forts out of pillows or boxes." However, someone reverted the change. (User Hello71 if I'm reading the change log correctly.)
If this is not the correct place for this, then where is?
Children building forts using pillows, blankets, boxes, drying racks and so on is a part of this world and deserves it's place on Wikipedia just like anything else.
Please discuss, elaborate, whatever. Where do children's forts go if not in the forts article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.218.64.86 (talk) 04:07, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You seem to have entirely missed the point of the article, which is about the military science and engineering and history of defensive fortifications.  That does not include "children's forts", as you call them.  Piles of pillows, blankets or cardboard have never been used to defend any location against military siege craft. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 02:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children's Forts. 

message: . Apparently during the Donghak Peasant Revolution, Korean traditional chicken coops were used as a moveable bullet-proof fortification tool. Komitsuki (talk) 15:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jangtae 

message: Goguryeo-Persian Fortifications Similar <Presentation from the Ancient History Association>. There is a debated theory about Goguryeo fortifications (mostly in NE China) resembling Sassanid fortifications because of the co-incidentally similar construction methods. I also have some Korean blood in my background but I think we are very similar to Iranian nomads in the past. Komitsuki (talk) 16:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goguryeo and Sassanid 

message: Seems he detailed the indian Fort of Kangra, not sure if that could maybe be placed into the Indian section as it is the oldest of its kind miltray wise within india.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangra_Fort92.236.96.38 (talk) 16:43, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexsander the great of europe, records within india taken by his people 

message: «India has more forts than any other country in the world». «India currently has over 180 forts». I think the first sentence should be changed. In Spain there are around 2500 castles.
--Jfbu (talk) 10:32, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I just removed it from the sentence. Considering the varying types of fortifications which exist and are covered in this article (castles, fortress, forts, city walls, blockhouses, martellos, etc.), its a pretty bold claim to make without a significant source to back to it up. Leventio (talk) 08:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: India 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: I fixed the wrong headings, but this laid bare that we have nothing on fortifications in the Islamic world. They only start AFTER Muhammad, he lived in Arabia among a still pre-Islamic civilisation, so that's what we have. Worse even, pre-Islamic Arabia had fortifications long before his time, so even this section is very punctual (just around 600 CE).
I have added a "see also" tag with a long row of Muslim terms re. fortifications, but that's all we have for now. Arminden (talk) 02:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nothing on Islamic world 

message: The word "fort" is primary, meaning it is highly useful and must not be tampered with, such as to not define it well, and such as to transform it always to "fortifications," to corrupt or "hack" the way the word "fortify" as in "make stronger," is used. -Zonkeideist (talk) 18:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think there's a part of the article which needs editing? Richard Nevell (talk) 19:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fort, the word, and "fortifications" the "words"