Talk:1900 Summer Olympics

message: Why Does Cuba have the same flag as the united states? 68.55.26.227 15:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was their flag in 1900.  See Flag of Cuba for an explanation.  Andrwsc 15:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is the flag again like today? Aminabzz (talk) 14:57, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags 

message: Could somebody put Persia instead of Iran in the text? The country was named Persia until 1935.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.66.224.202 (talk) 03:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I don't know where that flag came from.Theknightswhosay (talk) 04:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you also have the same question about the flag of India? In historical contexts in Wikipedia the flag of that particular time is included. Aminabzz (talk) 14:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran/Persia 

message: The IOC list the winning polo team as "Great Britain / USA / Ireland"... maybe we should list Ireland as a separate country in that list (and also in the 1896 list... I'm still thinking John Boland should be considered an Irish.Souris2005 (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: The first paragraph says that over a thousand athletes participated. But the sidebar says that 997 participated. Last I checked, 997 is not over a thousand, although it is close. So which is it? GregorR (talk) 07:50, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over a thousand? 

message: I have provided two references that prove without any question of doubt that the sporting events that were held at the Paris Exposition were not organised by the IOC, nor were called Olympic Games in 1900 or in 1901. In fact, the IOC itself, at the time referred to the Athens 1906 Games, in their official report of their Session in Paris in 1901 as the "Second International Olympic Games Athens 1906" (verbatim) and Baron Pierre de Coubertin himself published an edition of the "Revue Olympique" on "the occasion of the Olympic Games in Athens". Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 12:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I have challenged you to provide exact quotations, both from the 1901 document and from the 2008 article that allegedly proposes the argument about that 1901 document, each with sufficient context to assess the soundness of your allegation. Neither of which you have done so far. Please post those quotes here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've pointed out elsewhere the IOC didn't organise the Games, they handed that responsibility over to the French organisers of the exposition - though this is not exactly unusual given that today the host city appoints an organising committee and it is not the IOC which does the job, e.g London 2012 Organising Committee. And surely if 1906 were the "Second International Olympic Games" then you can provide evidence for not counting the 1904 Summer Olympics as well? Perhaps having this discussion in a central location rather than spread across a dozen different talk pages would be a good idea, I suggest WT:OLY - Basement12 (T.C) 12:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be glad to discuss these issues anywhere you like. But the IOC did not hand over the responsibility to the organisers of the Paris Exposition. The organisers of the Paris Exposition never gave the IOC any choice. They allowed Baron Pierre de Coubertin to oversee the athletics events but not in his capacity as second President of the IOC. Yes, you are right about 1904. What applies to 1900 also applies to 1904. But I haven't got started on 1904 yet. One issue at a time. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I understand, the "Second International Olympic Games Athens 1906" may refer to the second time the Games were held in Athens, not the second time the Olympic Games were held. The hope, then, was that Athens would hold an Intercalated Games every four years, counted separately from those Games marking an Olympiad. Yoho2001 (talk) 09:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The sporting events at the Paris Exposition were not organised by the IOC nor came under their auspices

message: I note that gold medals were not awarded during the sporting events at the Paris Exposition. Therefore it is incorrect to refer to "gold medallists". There were none. You can refer to them as winners or the champion or champions. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 18:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Gold, silver, and bronze medals have been retroactively awarded by the International Olympic Committee to bring early Olympics in line with the modern awards.  These tables follow that decision. -- Jonel | Speak 06:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When did the IOC retroactively award the top three finishers, and did they present them with physical medals? Were there ceremonies for each of the top three athletes, wherever they may have been by then? The IOC's Olympic Museum collection includes medals for Paris, dated 1900, which refer only to the Universal Exposition. Were these the ones used, or are they, too, deemed retroactive "Olympic" medals, but never actually presented to the winners? Yoho2001 (talk) 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try to answer these questions.
"Retroactively award" is just a figure of speech. All it means is that the IOC accept 1st, 2nd and 3rd in 1900 (or any of the early games) are equal to 1st, 2nd, 3rd in more modern Games for statistical purposes. Remember that gold-silver-bronze for 1-2-3 wasn't awarded uniformly until 1908. For example in 1896 the winners got a silver medal, 2nd got bronze, 3rd got nothing and in 1900 a whole range of different medals and trophies were awarded. 
The IOC only agreed on a definitive list of champions about twenty years ago so all competitors from 1900 would have long dead by then. 
The medals on the IOC website are some of the ones actually given out in 1900. The reason why they have Universal Exposition on them and no mention of Olympic Games is a long story but it's basically due to a power struggle in French sport. One faction wanted to downplay the importance of the Olympic Games. Topcardi (talk) 00:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold medals were not awarded during the sporting events at the Paris Exposition

message: Vancouver Island is shown in a different color from the rest of Canada, on the map identifying countries' first Olympic participation. Yoho2001 (talk) 09:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction needed: Wrong color for Vancouver Island

message: The medal used in the design at the top of this page is completely different from any of those for the Paris Games in the collection of the IOC's Olympic Museum, which are rectangular. Where is the round medal in the poster from? Who created the faux poster, and when? Were there other posters also created later? Do any of them have official status? Yoho2001 (talk) 23:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official medals and faux posters 

message: We have a number of articles that mention that Moseley Wanderers competed in the 1900 Olympics. But the sources and our articles seem to be split on whether they won a silver or a bronze medal.
Facts: Moseley Wanderers  turned up in Paris played one game, losing to France the gold medal winners and then immediately returned to England. The did not stay to play the only other nation competing in the rugby competition -- Germany (represented by Frankfurt) who also lost to France.
Some of the confusion may be explained by this text from the 1900 Summer Olympics medal table article:
Wikip Article                            	Medal 	Cited source
Rugby union at the Summer Olympics       	Silver	
Moseley Rugby Football Club              	Bronze	
Moseley Wanderers                        	Silver	
Great Britain at the 1900 Summer Olympics	Silver	no source
List of Olympic medalists in rugby union 	Silver	no source
The following source: "" would seem to be authoritative. So I am going to use this as a source and change the articles to says sliver. --PBS (talk) 01:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rugby 

message: Hi, I couldn't help but notice that Charlotte Cooper is regarded as the first female Olympic champion in the article, whereas a look at the Sailing results indicate Hélène de Pourtalès as part of the winning team in the 1-2 ton event, which took place before the tennis events started.
Given that Charlotte Cooper is generally regarded as the first female Olympic champion, I thought it would be worth putting this on the talk page before editing it later. 
One thought which springs to mind is the Olympic report (or World Fair report!) of 1900, I can't read French, can anyone tell me if Hélène de Pourtalès is actually mentioned by name? Is this where we get the details about this event? Mike476 (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Female Olympic champion...Charlotte Cooper? 

message: The picture probably doesn't show Charlotte Cooper. According to my source (Gillmeister: Cultural History of Tennis), it's taken from the French magazine "La vie en Grand Air" from July 22nd, 1900, and depicts "Mademoiselle A. Gillou" (I assume Kate Gillou).--Kompakt (talk) 14:41, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right. I've swapped the picture for the one used in the Charlotte Cooper article. It's a better picture, anyway. DoctorKubla (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charlotte Cooper picture 

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message: Text and references copied from André Tintant to 1900 Summer Olympics. See history of former article for a list of contributors.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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message: It doesn't need a source to say 1900 wasn't a leap year. It's a known fact which you can find by a simple search too. Also, it doesn't need a source to say all Summer Olympics games were held on leap years. It's a known fact too.
So the only Summer Olympics games that were held on a common year was the 1900 one. Because 1900 was the only year after inauguration of the Summer Olympics games that the leap day was skipped. Aminabzz (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, but it’s irrelevant trivia.Jeff in CA (talk) 08:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  My reverted edit