Talk:Patriarchate of Peć (monastery)

message: Mig11, Patrikana e Pejës should be italicized per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)#Italic type, for the very simple reason that it's a foreign language (i.e. not English). There's no further agenda here. Even the Albanian Wikipedia does the same thing:
*in Firenca the Italian Firenze is italicized.
*in Venediku the Italian Venezia is italicized.
*in Parisi the French rive droite & rive gauche are italicized.
This version feels like an "International Wikipedia", but its written in English. - Regards, Evv 19:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: On format

message: : I don't agree with you here (example ). Serbian monasteries on Kosovo have existed for centuries, and they, of course, also have names in Albanian language. Albanian is one of the official languages of Kosovo, even from the Serbian point of view. We need reliable sources that show Albanian name, I know, but it is very easy to find a lot of sources that show that Patriarchate of Peć is "Patrikana e Pejës" in Albanian. What do you mean when you say "the Albanian name is close to non-existant"? Patriarchate of Peć has an established name in Alabanian language because Albanians have lived in the area around the monastery for centuries. What Albanians think about the monastery is irrelevant here. Albanian is one of the official languages of Kosovo, and the language of the majority of the people living around the monastery. What is the reason not to include Albanian name? See WP:PLACE which is relevant here: "Relevant foreign language names ([...] used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted". Albanians certainly inhabit the area around the monastery, and we have sources to show Albanian name, so why not including it? Vanjagenije (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language(s) 

message: Since term "Patriarchate of Peć" in historiography and other scholarly literature primarily designates the historical Serbian Patriarchate with its seat in the Monastery of Peć, we should find some solution for including the term Monastery in the title of this page. This page is only about the Patriarchal Monastery of Peć and that fact should be reflected in the title. Mirror pages in following languages contain the term Monastery in the title of this page: Bulgarian, Dutch, Finnish, German, Russian, Ukrainian and Serbian. Simplest solution would be to rename page as "Monastery of Peć" or "Patriarchal Monastery of Peć". Lets talk about this. Sorabino (talk) 06:59, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia follows the WP:COMMONNAME principle. If you want to rename the pages, you have to prove that the proposed title is more common in English language reliable sources than the current name. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:57, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Including term Monastery into the page title 

message: Since we have page on Serbian Patriarchate of Peć (1346-1766) it would be wise to reconsider some former redirects to this page. This page is about the Monastery of Peć, not about the Patriarchate of Peć. So, to avoid confusion, all redirects that do not include the term "monastery" (like Patriarchate of Peć, Patriarchate of Pec, Patriarchate of pec, Pec Patriarchate) should be redirected to the actual page about the Patriarchate (Serbian Patriarchate of Peć). There was some confusion about that, quite unnecessary, because in English language, term Patriarchate refers to the office and ecclesiastical jurisdiction of a patriarch, and therefore should not be used as a designation for a monastery. So lets sort out that, and avoid any future confusion. Sorabino (talk) 21:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As I already explain to you, Wikipedia uses the WP:COMMONNAME. The most commonly used name for this monastery is "Patriarchate of Peć" (compare  vs. ). Vanjagenije (talk) 14:06, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You have to prove that the proposed title is more common in English literature than the current title. You are showing Google search results to prove that the proposed title is commonly used, but that is not enough evidence to prove that it is more commonly used than the current title. We need some kind of comparison, to see which title is more common. Also, we need to see what title is used by other encyclopedias and respected sources. I recommend you to start the formal WP:move request and seek comment from other users. Vanjagenije (talk) 06:34, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorting out some redirects 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It is unfair to almost always put only the Albanian name of the city. I think that there should be the original name, in Serbian too... Bruno Romanin (talk) 13:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I invite all of you, Wikipedia users, to reflect on the fact that Kosovo is historically "the heart of Serbia"… Bruno Romanin (talk) 13:25, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have an issue with the way a page is named, you have to take it up on the talk page of the page in question. Page names for localities in Kosovo are only changed through a consensus or a vote on the respective talk page. If you want to enjoy your experience on Wikipedia, please check out WP:CONDUCT. You have gotten involved in a contentious topic on your first few edits which isn't the best start to be honest. If you follow the Wikipedia code of conduct and ease your way into contentious topics, then you shouldn't run into trouble in the future. ElderZamzam (talk) 09:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unfair...