Talk:Green Party of California

message: Not serious, but needs to be written from a more neutral point of view in the third person. Colby 02:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: There is no information here about the CA Green Party in the years 2008 to the present. What is the current state of the party? This article needs updating. 76.14.66.186 (talk) 17:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent History

message: :I wanted to add something about issues/perspective, because that would be useful to people who are coming across the party for the first time.  I really do not like being told someone is X label, and I just have to take their word for it.  Why do you say that?  So I was trying to help someone like me get some facts.  I listed out the proposals from the political compass survey, and compared to the GPCA platform, because I don't like making arbitrary decisions.  I didn't want to pick issues that others don't care about, so I went with the standard questionnaire.  If anyone disagree with my assessment, then that's even better, because maybe I could learn something too.
:Instead, I'm told there is no place for that.  There are ideologies listed in the Infobox, with no citations, which aren't a problem.  I did the digging through the party's platform, to lead to a conclusion, but that's treated as less than no citations, as none of those were removed.  At the same time, what I was told is not true.  The California Democratic Party page has a section for Platform, and Resolutions.  Help me out here.  What should I put in to inform people, aside from election histories, and officials?
:The result of the survey showed very left, and very libertarian.  The platform shows an ideology of Libertarian Socialism, meaning that it wants autonomous, democratic workers' groups, as opposed to government controlled markets, or centralized a different way.  Decentralization and Grassroots Democracy are two of the party's key values.  One of the platform's five main sections is titled Community-Based Sustainable Economics.  Within the section, it's stated "as an alternative to an economy owned by either government or gigantic corporations, Greens favor a Jeffersonian model with ownership and control spread as widely as possible among Californians."  The ownership and control means that workers would be making decisions for themselves.  Then, in the Focus subsection, it lays out the theory behind decentralizing the economy.  It cites the wealth gap.  It critiques the contradiction of capitalism where "people are not motivated to provide value to the communities they serve."  It advocates "ecologically sound and employee-owned or profit sharing businesses of appropriate scale."  It advocates corporate responsibility to communities.  It advocates encouragement of "volunteerism."  This all sounds very Libertarian Socialist.  If there's no objections, I'll include this into the page's Ideologies list in the infobox. Stevemario (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: {{re|Sevemario]} Hey  again! I would agree with you that they certainly are a left-libertarian-leaning party. However, some sources like this (page 8) specifically leave them out. I looked all over for sources that specifically say otherwise, but I don't have access to them all (I really did look in a lot of places). However, you are likely right, but Wikipedia has a strict policy against Original research that must be held firm. I'm sorry for this inconvenience, but I cannot support the inclusion of your proposal at this time. :/ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 20:12, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Grounds for Ideology