Template talk:Doppelganger

message: Is there a reason this template uses  rather than  for the displayed text? I ask because it unicodes the false username  as . I don't want to change this behavior if it's included for a good reason, though.
Also, this template seems like a prime candidate for high-risk protection. -- nae'blis (talk) 15:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PAGENAMEE 

message: Hey, there has been controversy about which image the template should have (The stop hand or the other image). Is there consensus on this, or is it an admin edit war over the images? Astrale01talkcontribs 20:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM.  —Stemonitis 06:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contested move request

message: Whenever someone gets a chance, please add :Category:Sockpuppet templates to the template page (but not the template itself), since this is a sock-related template (like ).  Cheers =)  --slakr\ talk / 08:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: - lol. --slakr\ talk / 13:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just changed the cats to populate  instead of ; I know the template is protected, so if anyone objects, just say so and I'll revert the change.  For some reason three instances of the template are showing through, notwithstanding the noincludes, if anyone knows why, let me know and I'll fix it.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category for template page 

message: The current version of this template has the following code:
: This account … is … created by … an established user … Please see their talk page for any relevant discussion.
The variable  does not provide a link to the established user's talk page, as the text implies, but rather to the talk page of the doppelganger, which in many cases will be non-existent and unmonitored precisely because it is a doppelganger and not an active user. Please fix this so the variable matches the text implication, like so:
: Please see their |talk page for any relevant discussion.
Of course, one can work around this by making the doppelganger's talk page a redirect to the real user, but erroneous coding with easy fixes should be fixed whenever possible, since most people learn wiki principles by observing others' work. Thank you. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: . עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in talk page link 

message: Do we really need indefinite full protection on this page?  Why?  There are a lot of templates of equal or greater importance that are not protected at all.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: Should we move the title from Template:Doppelganger to Template:Doppelgänger? Doppelgänger is indeed the proper way to spell it. Create a Pineapple (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page title 

message: 15-Aug-2010: I have changed Template:Doppelganger to no longer invoke the non-existent Template:1, as caused on 2 August 2010, when the outer braces "{ }" had been omitted for using parameter 1 with {gender}:
::* WAS: Please see 
::* NOW: Please see 
Because there had been no error message, the use of double-brace  perhaps seemed ok, but I changed it to triple-brace , after 2 weeks. -Wikid77 (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer using Template:1 

message: Could we add
:::::::- ~~~~
so then the original account has signed underneath so it ends up looking like User:SophJ? 
Sophie (Talk) 18:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Something  

message: I know this is nitpicky, but would anyone mind if I changed this from a  to an , because this template is primarily meant to appear in the User rather than the User talk namespace?  Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 02:15, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box type 

message: Change to prevent impersonation by vandals to to prevent impersonation by vandals or trolls. Generally, only trolls have the sophistication of creating an account with a similar username to attack or impersonate another editor. L293D (☎ • ✎) 01:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I don't think we need to explicitly list every flavour of vandal, nor to suggest new kinds of naughtiness. But not so strongly as to reject the request. I'll just take a pass on this one. Cabayi (talk) 10:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Trolls are vandals, no need to call them out separately. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 20:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 14 June 2018 

message: Remove the kbd tag from (). It looks weird and it doesn't belong here. Use a bold tag. –Aνδρέας talk | contributions 17:10, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: I've swapped to  because kbd is incorrect regardless. Why do you think it needs bold? Izno (talk) 17:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 26 October 2019 

message: I feel like the words "by an established user" and "by vandals" are unnecessary. Like the template would just seem more helpful without it.Peasesoon (talk) 23:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But that is why people create doppelgänger accounts. Primefac (talk) 00:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary harshness/wording 

message: Hi, guys, how does a doppelganger account prevent impersonation by bad people? The template documentation does not give an explanation. Thanks! Friend505 12:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It does, actually; see the paragraph starting with  Primefac (talk) 13:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hi, how does a Doppelganger account prevent impersonation by bad people? 

message: The template page contains the following passage (I have avoided the use of quotation marks for the sake of clarity):
Often, this takes the form of replacing capital "I's" with lowercase "L's" and vice versa.
There shouldn’t be an apostrophe in either of these constructions. In any case, the phrasing here is quite awkward.
If I were able to edit it, I would suggest the following alternative:
Often, this takes the form of replacing a capital “I” with a lowercase "L”, or vice versa.
Foxmilder (talk) 03:41, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point, I've also changed the wording a bit to indicate it is an example. Primefac (talk) 07:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit of minor pedantry 

message: I'm not entirely sure what the purpose is of providing a link to the doppelganger's edit count. Presumably it's going to be either zero or near-zero? I suggest removing it.  talk 06:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I could create a "doppelganger" account of someone, tag the user page with it, and then go about my business impersonating someone without anyone suspecting. You are right, a doppelganger account should have a zero or near-zero edit count, and it should be easy to check that. Primefac (talk) 07:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, that makes some sense. A better approach would be to centralize, i.e. have a collective report of all edits from accounts tagged as doppelgangers, so that any issues could be picked up more quickly.  talk 07:27, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit count link 

message: Please change "'their' will change to 'his' or 'her'" to "their will change to 'his' or 'her', if necessary" in the description. Some Wikipedians do not use a gender specific pronoun, and to also make sure non-binary individuals or individuals who do not use a gender specific pronoun on Wikipedia would not be worried about it changing to "his" or "her". Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Mseingth2133444, I'm not sure I understand the request. Are you seeking to change the template or the template's documentation? The template itself already uses  to match what a user has set in their preferences. The documentation notes this, although the example it uses is a little out of sync — it references "their", but @Nyttend changed it to repeat the username in 2013, calling the singular they ungrammatical. I'm inclined to revert that change (to bring it back in line with the documentation), as the repetition is clunky and the singular they is widely accepted at this point, but apart from that I do not see any issue we need to deal with. Sdkb talk 07:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm totally fine with the singular they/their. Primefac (talk) 11:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Yes, I meant the documentation, @Sdkb, but seeing as you will change it/have changed it, I think this is pretty much resolved. Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 15:14, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant "This template will correct itself based on the gender set in the preferences of your real user account (i.e. in the sentence "Please see their talk page for any relevant discussion", "their" will change to "his" or "her")." Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 15:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Actioned. Sdkb talk 16:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request