Talk:Ma Chao

message: Thinking about Ma Chao and all he did, I see him not only possessing the skills like Lu Bu but having the same sense of right and wrong like Zhao Yun. Just between the two of them, Ma Chao and Zhao Yun would make up for a perfect pair of warriors; however, since Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun were the only two main heroes left in Shu after the Nanman Battles, I would say it is Ma Su (Maybe not) who would do well as a pair for Ma Chao. (But this is all food for thought)--Zhang Liao 19:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ma Chao having a sense of right and wrong like Zhao Yun? I think you've been influenced too much by fiction (Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Dynasty Warriors etc). Ma didn't even care about his family when he rebelled against Cao Cao. I believe he was certain that his family members were in Cao's control and Cao would kill them if he rebelled. However, he didn't bother, and he paid the price of his clan's extermination for that. Not to mention, he left his concubine and son behind when he defected from Zhang Lu to join Liu Bei. And what happened to them? His concubine became another man's, while his son was killed by Zhang. Ma is inhumane and untrustworthy, as some people have described him. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 12:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

text: To add on, if I were Zhao Yun, I wouldn't want to associate myself with Ma. I think Ma and Lü Bu will hit off well. :) Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 12:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ma Chao, the opposite of Zhao Yun 

message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxf8i3zjRI
I think this needs to be included in this article somehow, by someone who actually understands this. Aurora sword (talk) 05:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ma Chao Lion Dance 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamikonian#Legendary_origin
"Recently, a Chinese historian introduce one theory about Chinese origin of the Mamikonians. According to his theory, the Mamikonians' ancestor is a relative of general Ma Chao. This relative successfully escaped the purge of Cao Cao on Ma family and fled to Persia, then to Armenia. In 2005, in an interview with the Xinhua News Agency journalists, Suri Mamikonian, vice-president of Friendship Association of Mamikonian family, said that his family name actually is the Ma surname of China, and his ancestors came from China. How ever Suri do not know exactly who his ancestor is."
Worth including?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.107.7.242 (talk) 04:34, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The source for the quoted text above is in Vietnamese. An English translation is needed. The source doesn't look very reliable to me.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 12:58, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Here's the source: http://www.baomoi.com/Info/Con-chau-Quan-Cong-Ma-Sieu/119/3831276.epi. Any reader who reads Vietnamese can help to translate.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supposed descendant 

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