Talk:Varicose veins

message: I would like to know if anybody has any feedback on the rate at which the veins grow back after going through childbirth? I am concidering getting my varicose veins stripped, and have been told to wait until after having children.--Hilarylberry 10:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I ripped it out. I'm also worried about the barefoot mania. External links are still unregulated, and WP:NPOV does not seem to apply to them/ JFW | T@lk 17:26, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: since when is ibprofen or other anti-inflamatory medication considered non-medical treatment?
Please could the title be changed from 'medical treatment' to 'treatment' as vein stripping is surgical!!! 
Cheers 81.129.221.26 18:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They mean "surgical treatment" vs. "non-surgical treatment". That's the standard terms in the medical books. I changed it. But I haven't seen anything in the medical books or on the Internet that says ibuprofen does any good for varicose veins. There may be some people who take ibuprofen for everything. If we can't find a verifiable source we should delete it. Nbauman 17:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  medical treatment 

message: I´m interested in the source for the stated incidence rates regarding complications for radiofrequency and laser ablation. Sources I know state significantly different rates.  Can you please give me a hint where these numbers come from. Thanks MickMedi 14:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These numbers come from individual studies that you can find indexed on PubMed. Different doctors publish studies with their own results. The results vary among doctors. The same doctors get fewer complications with time as they get more experienced. Nbauman 15:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surgical treatment, Paragraph 5 (endovenous treatment) 

message: Veins2, this is a minor point but I want to put it on the record.
I don't have Derm Surg Onc at hand, but how do reticular veins (blue veins) and telangiectasias (spider veins)  "involve" valvular insufficiency? The BMJ article by Campbell that I linked to says, "they are not the same as varicose veins, though they often occur in association with them." I think "association" is a good word. 
The idea that spider veins are baby varicose veins is an intriguing concept, but I thought the defining concept of varicose veins was hypertension caused by vascular insufficiency -- although I can't find a good citation right now. Campbell just says that in varicose veins the valves are "usually incompetent" which leads to reflux with hypertension. 
I like the idea of defining varicose veins as an entity that is caused by valvular insufficiency, and thus distinguished from all other entitites that are not caused by valvular insufficiency. I know that a lot of doctors like to take 2 diseases and say, "they are on a continuum," but then you never get precise definitions, and sometimes they turn out to have completely different mechanisms and completely different treatments. 
It sounds plasuable that there is a common cause, plausably a genetic variation in the collagen, elastin, matrix metalloproteinase enzymes or something which causes many vascular conditions, but I don't know that and I can't document it. 
The hereditary aneurysm defects like Marfan's were caused by a defect in the collagen, but now doctors tell me they think the aneurysms of aging are caused by a defect in the MMP enzymes. So you can't assume that just because they all look alike they're all aspects of the same disease. Or can you? 
It's not acceptable for molecular biology purposes, but it may be acceptable for billing purposes. Nbauman 16:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spider veins

message: Vein2, why eliminate references to costs? That's a significant difference, doctors tell me.Nbauman 20:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Costs 

message: Can anyone please share me little bit about where i can get vericose vein cured and the cost for the any such procedure? i will be highly grateful for anyone who can help me with this. thank u. bupaklar@yahoo.com   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.166.242 (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How much does a complete removal of vericose vein would cost? 

message: Not so much a factual question as a formal one.  The two lines, "Many patients who suffer
. . . Phlebologists." might do better in a later section of the article.  In the introduction I would think one would do better stating the facts of the condition, and leaving potential solutions until later on. 128.147.28.1 (talk) 18:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree, and have edited it. Vein2 (talk) 04:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quibble On Introduction: Phlebologists 

message: Is weightlifting vascularity related to VV?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.41.163 (talk) 06:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  weightlifting vascularity? 

message: Could I suggest that the CHIVA proponents who have been editing this page, please start a new page Labeled "CHIVA" if the want to put lots on information on Wikipedia. I think that this page being titled Varicose veins should predominately be about vv's with a short description of each of the treatment options, and links from these sections to more detailed treatment pages.
Check the sclerotherapy , endovenous laser treatment , and ambulatory phlebectomy pages with their links from this page for an idea of how it would work. Vein2 (talk) 00:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  CHIVA proponents 

message: To whom it may concern,
We are interested in having our link (evlt.ca) added to this page on varicose veins and eventually the Endovenous Laser Treatment page. We are currently in the process of updating our website (owned by Sigmacon Medical), evlt.ca, to include even more information about laser treatment technologies, additional clinical white papers and trials, other treatment options, video animation and relevant media mentions about the treatment of varicose veins. 
We pride ourselves on being a top source of education about endovenous laser treatment and varicose veins for the Canadian consumer market and have owned and operated this site for nearly 10 yrs. Interested parties can easily navigate through our site, learn about what causes varicose veins and how they can be treated, what's new in the media and world of varicose veins, link to authority sites on phlebology, interventional radiology, and vascular health, and even find and communicate with a local clinic that specializes in laser (and other forms ie stripping, sclerotherapy, etc.) vein treatments to learn which treatment is most appropriate for them. We feel this linking can further help the Canadian market and others learn more about this disease and what solutions and steps they can take to better their lives!
 
We look forward to hearing from you and thank you for considering our request!
Best Regards,
Adam Cook
207.188.77.220 (talk) 19:50, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link Request 

message: Hi! Shouldn't there be an article or reference about that? --92.132.167.224 (talk) 21:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Varicose veins on penis

message: I suggest that the title of this article be changed from "Varicose veins" to "Varicose vein". Wikipedia naming conventions favor using the singular form, unless there is a very good reason not to. However, I do not think that such reasons exist for this article. For example, a person can develop a single varicose vein. While there may be a high probability that another will develop, two or more veins do not always become varicose veins simultaneously. In addition, a single varicose vein can be treated separately or at the same time as other varicose veins. Also, the terms "varicose vein" and "saphenous vein" can be used in their singular form when discussing varicose veins. This usage can be seen in the article, although "varicose vein" is limited to an image description, perhaps because of the frequent use of "saphenous vein" and its variants. A saphenous vein seems to be one of two specific veins, the "great saphenous vein" or the "small saphenous vein", which may or may not be varicose. I get the impression from the article that at least one of the saphenous veins is usually involved if there is one or more varicose veins in the leg. Anyway, while the plural form of "varicose vein" may be used more frequently, there does not seem to be anything that warrants making an exception for the article's title. By the way, I am aware of the requested move process. I just forgot about it until I was almost finished, so there is no need to explain it to me.
In case you are unfamiliar with article name changes and redirects, there is no need to change any links to this page. The page would be renamed and the "varicose veins" would automatically redirect to "varicose vein". In addition, any terms that currently redirect to this article, such as "varicose", would simply be changed to redirect to the article's new name. The responsibility for changing the redirects falls to the person who changes the article's name. Therefore, there is no work to be done on your part, unless you are the one who changes the article's name. Whether you agree with the name change or not, please give your opinion, if you have the time. My time spent on Wikipedia is erratic. If you want to contact me for some reason, please use my user talk page rather than this article talk page. Thank you, Kjkolb (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should the plural title of the article be changed to singular? 

message: Hello,
I found a source claiming otherwise: http://zakrzepica.mp.pl/zylaki/show.html?id=63361, written by a PhD, that suggests that to prevents Varicose veins, You shouldn't cross the legs (4th point from the end).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.10.74.174 (talk) 20:25, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious: Varicose veins are not caused by crossing the legs or ankles 

message: There is no medical citation for the topical application of Therapeutic Grade Essential oils treating varicose veins.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smt w (talk • contribs) 14:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed essentials oils 

message: doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.113.008331 JFW | T@lk 22:50, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Circulation'' review 

message: You state "Then the probe is cooled with NO2 or CO2 to −85o F."
Somebody should maybe look up what NO2 is (and what N2O is...)
--80.108.182.42 (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cryosurgery