Talk:4th Infantry Division (United States)

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:I served with the 3Bn, 12th Infantry, 4th ID in Vietnam, `69-70, and served in the USAR until 1996. This is the first time in almost 40 years I have run across the 4th Infantry Division referred to as "Flower Power Fourth," which just sounds inventively hokey and juvenile. SSG Ed Boomhower—The preceding unsigned comment was added by This user has left wikipedia (talk • contribs) 02:38, 29 January 2006.
::Unfortunately, that was a phrase that was occasioned by the Drug years in Nam, and - thankfully - has faded from memory - mostly.
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 18:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved 

message: I took out the part where 4th ID captured Saddam Hussein. Sorry guys, not to destroy your ego, but we all know who was there. I changed to providing perimeter security for Special Operations Forces, while in fact thats a long stretch considering Rangers provided perimeter security for JSOC, and 4th ID provided some kind of security to the security element.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.101.176.248 (talk) 17:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capturing Saddam Hussein!?!??! 

message: Are there any people here who were with the 4th when it first deployed to Vietnam? I heard from an ex-Marine that subsequently joined the Army (who was also in Vietnam at the time), said that when the 4th deployed to Vietnam, somebody in supply had screwed up big-time, as they arrived in country with nothing but blanks, and they had to stay in the rear for almost two months before they received their full supply of real ammo. A funny anecdote if true and verifiable, but of course THAT won't be recorded on any official Army site. :^) wbfergus 20:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial deployment to Vietnam 

message: Does anyone have good information from 2006 deployment to Iraq? I was there in 2005, so all I know is that 4th ID replaced 3rd ID in Baghdad. Parsecboy 02:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Primarily a summary of the deployment; what BCTs controlled what areas/cities, the two BCTs that were task-org'd to 101st, and important operations carried out by 4th ID units during the deployment, and hopefully a source or two to support it all. Thanks for your help. Parsecboy 22:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006 deployment to Iraq 

message: I see on this page at Ft. Hood also lists the 1st Battalion, 21st Field Artillery as part of the Fires Brigade. Any reason it is not listed on the Units list here? --Petercorless 13:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! --Petercorless 03:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fires Brigade also include 1-21 FA?

message: Just to say that there is no mention in the article of the very heavy criticisms levelled at the counter-insurgency operations conducted by the 4th ID, 2003-4 in Iraq under the command of Odierno, documented e.g. in Thomas Ricks book Fiasco: the American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006). See especially pages 232-234 of the latter. Colin4C 20:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you've got the sources, and I assume you do, if you're quoting Ricks' book, then go ahead and be bold and add the controversy. If you want help with phrasing, copyediting, or anything else, I'll be happy to help. Parsecboy 20:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the context of the whole article I am actually in two minds about it. Maybe compared to the 4th ID helping to win WW1 and WW2, the Iraq unpleasantness 2003-4 is fairly trivial. And maybe it is the commander Odierno who deserves the flak rather than the men. Colin4C 21:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fiasco

message: Need article on Jeffery W. Hammond or Jeffery Hammond, however he typically spells his name. Badagnani (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jeffery W. Hammond]] 

message: Dedication of Memorial Park at Clinton, Oh.
View at:   www.ohioveterans memorialpark.org  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.188.143 (talk) 18:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnam Memorial Park 

message: I'm new to 4th this is my first year. I'm preparing for deployment in August. My NCO's have been quizing us on regulations and asking us what each particular item stands for or it's significance. Can any one help me I searched but the only info I got was not exactly what I need to know. What do each of the 4 arrows stand for and what does the circle in the middle stand for?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.143.236 (talk) 01:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th ID insignia patch 

message: What is the Wikipedia policy regarding external links whose only purpose seemingly is to draw business to a commercial website, in this case www.combatreels.com? I've no doubt that the DVDs are interesting to many people, but there is no information on that site that isn't carried in the Wikipedia article itself. Seems kind of inappropriate to me. Is it?--172.190.116.12 (talk) 02:02, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercialism 

message: There seems to be some mixed signals in the Army community regarding the use of Heavy Brigade Combat Team (HBCT) versus ABCT (which could mean Airborne BCT or Armored BCT).  All the literature I could find up to 2012 was using the term HBCT.  There is a letter from the Commanding General of the maneuver center requesting a change from HBCT to ABCT, but I can't find anything that officially made the change.  If you look at various HBCT/ABCT websites there is are varying uses of both the terms, including in some cases using both terms on the same site.  Has there been any official documentation specifying this change or was it one taken internally by the relevant brigades?Kintrix (talk) 06:10, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armored Brigade versus Heavy Brigade 

message: the 4th first went into Vietnam in july 66 southwest of pleiku that was 2nd brigade 1st taskforse I don't believe the 4th ever went to hollaway  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.197.236 (talk) 02:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  information correction 

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