Talk:Fall of Constantinople

message: I've just edited this article to fix an sfn multiple-target error, and in the process noted that the article uses several forms of reference for "reused" sources with different page numbers:  ,  and unformatted shortened footnotes (e.g. this reference).  Which format should we standardize on?  If we reach a consensus here I am happy to do the legwork to convert the references to a common format.  My personal preference would be , which is similar to the unformatted shortened footnotes but with a link, but the most used style in the article currently is probably .  Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 10:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has chimed up here in a week and a bit, I shall go with sfnp.  Best, Wham2001 (talk) 18:17, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference formatting 

message: What an exaggeration. How did Mehmed have such numbers? There weren't even such numbers in janissary corps' peak. Can someone find proper sources? Looks like such a mess. Beshogur (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: All household(kapıkulu) soldiers of Ottomans in 1453 is estimated at roughly 12.000 only half being Janissaries. All modern estimated also suggest at best 60-80.000 troops that Sultan was able to field in 1453. Mehmed himself operated during his many campaings at best 50 to 80 thousand troops lesser in minor operations. So you are right numbers need an update. 149.140.236.68 (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "45,000–50,000 Janissaries" 

message: *"Thus local rulers - whether Byzantine princes, Bulgarian, and Serbian kings..[..].. accepted the status of vassals of the Ottoman sultan" "The Ottoman Empire, 1700-1922, Donald Quataert, page 26
*"The historical battle was probably a tactical draw, but Serbia's losses at Kosovo left it unable to resist the Ottomans further, so it became an Ottoman vassal...." --Serbia: A Modern History, Marko Attila Hoare
*"..Dubrovnik's annual tribute to the Ottomans rose in 1471 from 3,000 to 8,000 ducats. In addition to payment, vassals were expect to provide troops..." --"A Concise History of Serbia", Dejan Djokić, 141.
*"Bayezit's army seems to have been composed primarily of vassal troops, particularly those sent from Serbia." --"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey, Volume 1, Stanford Jay Shaw, page 35.
*"...Serbia (though soon having to become a vassal state of the Ottomans) hung on as a principality for another half century." -- "Yugoslavia and Its Historians: Understanding the Balkan Wars of the 1990s", ed.Norman M. Naimark, Holly Case
*"After the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 the remainder of Serbia became a Turkish vassal state..." --"East Central Europe in the Middle Ages, 1000-1500", Jean W. Sedlar, page 23.
*"To give a striking example, Stefan Lazarevic, the Orthodox Christian Prince of Serbia and an Ottoman vassal..." --"The Second Ottoman Empire: Political and Social Transformation in the Early Modern World, Baki Tezcan, page 88. 
So much for "propaganda".--Kansas Bear (talk) 20:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbia, vassal of Ottoman Empire 

message: All Of The Above Mentioned Dates ( May 29 ) Are According To The Julian Calendar Or The Gregorian? Because Its Nowhere mentioned and can cause a lot of confusion 157.38.149.133 (talk) 17:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no Gregorian calendar prior to 1582. Dimadick (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Calendar