Talk:Help! (song)

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message: Is there a song that Paul McCartney does'nt take credit for? On every Lennon only compositions it always states that McCartney contributed to finish, the source is who? HIMSELF! Kind of odd that he is only saying he contributed after Lennon died, but when he was still alive he never said he contributed to any of these songs. 99.144.231.43 (talk) 21:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Reliable sources for this, in relation to possibly the most completely documented band in the history of popular music? Shouldn't be hard to find, then. Rodhullandemu 21:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

text: There are plenty of sources where Lennon and McCartney say they helped each other finish songs that were based on an original idea by the other. This was more true in the beginning and middle than in the end. The notion that McCartney started claiming joint credit after Lennon died is not supported by any evidence that I've ever seen. — John Cardinal (talk) 02:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul McCartney being called in to complete it? 

message: In accordance with Wiki standards, I have commenced the process of verifying each of the entries.--Soulparadox 19:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have continued with this section and have removed information that I was unable to verify in the process of obtaining citations—please revert these changes if references are found.--Soulparadox (talk) 03:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover versions section 

message: What's the difference between this version and the original. There must be a difference or why would it be included on LOVE? C.Syde (talk | contribs) 00:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOVE Version 

message: The article states that John Lennon wrote the song solely, but gives no reference for this  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.217.208 (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song writing credit 

message: The reference given for this doesn't mention George & Paul on backing vocals - that would have been a big deal in the 1970s; after the split, AFAIK, apart from the Anthology project, George only worked with Paul on "All those years ago" - and Paul recorded his contribution separately from George & Ringo. Apepper (talk) 17:36, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help! George & Paul on backing vocals for the Henry Gross cover? 

message: The Stanley Parkes anecdote is interesting, and is obviously what he remembers, but it seems to lack important context here. The story (as given) of Lennon coming in and saying he’s going to have to write a new song to fit the change of title is all well and good, but it asks a few questions. What would the title track have been if they hadn’t changed the name, for example? The movie was to have been called “Eight Arms to Hold You”, but there doesn’t seem to be mention anywhere of even an unrecorded song by that title; so was it really that they were waiting to write a song until the last minute either because the inspiration hadn’t struck or that they thought the title might change anyway? Also, and perhaps more tellingly, original singles for the song “Help!” have something along the lines of “From the forthcoming United Artists film “Eight Arms to Hold You” printed next to the song title - so it would seem that the writing of the song may not have been due to the title changing, or at least was written and even issued before it changed. Anybody got anything other than speculation to clarify the chain of events? Jock123 (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of song/ film… 

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message: As I said above - I think the Bananarama info should be excised and linked to a separate page. It feels like a plug for that project. As we all know, the Beatles have been covered more than any other songwriters in history, and if you're going to include a whole section devoted to the Bananarama project, as worthy as it may be for those who know what it is, then you might as well include plugs for every other artist who covered "Yesterday" or "I Want To Hold Your Hand" or "Something" in the Beatles' wiki pages. 
If you look at the Wiki pages for most of the Beatles' smash hits, there is a "notable covers" section, such as Joe Cocker doing "With A Little Help From My Friends." If you wish to know more about Joe Cocker, you click on his name. Same with Bananarama - if you're interested, click and ye shall find, rather than a huge section devoted to what is, after all, a cult favorite outside of jolly old England!
Peace and jam butties all around. (I'm not going to make the fix - it'll probably just get switched back.) 
Wanted to post this opinion first. Love BORISBoris Gazpacho (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite agree. More is written about this cover version than the original, so surely it merits a separate page. Boodyinbkavk (talk) 09:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bananarama info should be excised and linked to a separate page