Talk:New Age

message: The article seems to lump together many disparate ideologies as one milieu while also, in several places, admitting that these people do not self describe as "New Agers." The article uses circular logic arguing that New Age "is typified by its eclecticism" while not giving any reason for all these various ideologies being grouped together under a single umbrella. Before reading the article, my understanding was that New Age only pertained to the idea of "Astrological cycles" very briefly described in the "Astrological cycles and the Age of Aquarius" section. It looks me like, rather than a unified movement or umbrella ideology, that people not understanding the beliefs and practices of certain (non-Judeo-Christian, non-atheist) white people have just mentally lumped them all together as "hippy stuff."
I suggest instead that the one thing unifying all these clearly distinct ideologies is that each has been a reaction against the lost of spiritual identity in modern, post-enlightenment materialism while also being unable to embrace modern Christianity. Many effects can have the same cause without the effects being classified as one thing.
The ideas of the article also smell of a kind of racism, as though the idea is, "All these white people aren't Christian, aren't atheist, and are doing very different 'spiritual' things, so it must be a singular movement." The fact that these people are described as getting ideas from ancient spiritual traditions indicates that the people described are individually seeking something missing in the broader culture and perhaps at times finding support with each other despite having differing beliefs rather than one movement which supports "supermarket spirituality" for each of its members.
IMO, either the entire article needs to be rewritten from the perspective that this is a conceptualization of a phenomenon (since apparently there have been academics who do conceptualize these various things as a singular), or the article needs to be split into several interlinked articles and reference that the behaviour, belief, or ideology has been described by specific individuals as New Age.
As support for my suggested rethinking of "New Age" compare the Japanese concept of shinshūkyō in the article Japanese new religions. Though these are completely different groups, the fact that so many groups have appeared since the Scientific Revolution could suggest similar causes as a reaction to the effects of the Scientific Revolution. 2604:2D80:DE11:1300:B19F:5802:1887:710F (talk) 20:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: "the lost of spiritual identity in modern, post-enlightenment materialism while also being unable to embrace modern Christianity." While I would not add it to the article's text, my guess is that the rise of the New Age movements, the spread of modern paganism, and the secularization of much of the Western world have a common cause. A considerable number of people find traditional versions of Christianity to be unappealing, and search for an ideology which would satisfy their spiritual needs. In any case, do you have sources to support the changes which you propose? Dimadick (talk) 08:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

text: If there's a reliable source supporting it, probably. I'd have to review the source to form an opinion. Schazjmd (talk) 21:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  One thing or many things being artificially lumped together? 

message: New age is very individualized it can be a series or multiple series of new age practices. 
Multiple Dimensions are usually brought up in most new age practices.
 Universal alien species aka aliens their origins of different species outside of Earth such as aliens from different planets are brought into theories mindsets & practices. Such terms as starseed 
New age mindset
 Believing that one individual or a group of individuals is over a certain dimension, to raise the collective consciousness is a new age thought and belief pattern that is becoming more, and more popular. 2600:6C4A:717F:F8A5:15E1:9697:F5B8:7F57 (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Age, Aliens & Consciousness 

message: Although the New Age is technically a religion with a different vantage, the sources of this article are obsolete and not always reliable.  If possible, I propose an alternate subject being New Age (Religion).  This is not to be a replacement for the article on the New Age movement but instead a separate article instating that a religion of the same name exists and sources by authors such as Carolyn Myss and Shirley MacLaine are to be validated.  Just thought I'd ask. Ravenheart Mew (talk) 22:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Ravenheart Mew, what are the aspects of New Age religion that you don't think can be adequately covered in this article? What is missing, and what are the reliable sources not included? See WP:POVFORK for the concerns about branching the article. Also, academic sources and independent sources are preferred to those written by adherents. Schazjmd (talk) 22:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, no, that is not what I meant.  I meant a separate article on the adherents of the New Age we call "Manx." It is not part of the article on the New Age movement -- into which in my honest opinion is just the popularity of the New Age religion and Eastern philosophy.  The critics are just telling us ". . .not to fool around with the subject and focus on what we are most familiar with!". That means New Agers are just dabbling.  You guys wrote quite an article, although I find it too lengthy to add more content in my opinion. Ravenheart Mew (talk) 21:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll need to provide some sources. My search on "new age manx" only returns articles about the cat. Schazjmd (talk) 22:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not the point.  Even though the article on New Age covers the religion thereof, there is too much slang and jargon written in the space of the article.  Please use the appropriate grammar in the English Wikipedia. The German, Spanish and Japanese Wikipedias speak of it as a religion -- and their sources are accurate.  See if you can make it a Wikipedia policy to use appropriate grammar. Ravenheart Mew (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you point to some specific instances in the article? Schazjmd (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: When using the word milieu or zeitgeist instead of subculture.  The definition of milieu in a separate article contradicts the definition in the same article.  Please correct the article by using correct grammar.  Slang is often perceived as dialect or vernacular.  Some users cannot understand the words used, so I'll leave it up to you if a "no slang" policy is necessary. Ravenheart Mew (talk) 22:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

text:  this user appears to be trolling. Possibly a sockpuppet of  who was trolling in the immediately previous section. Their goal seems to be wasting other editor's time with apparently serious queries which are simply made up. There is no "New Age" "manx" - they are trolling you. Skyerise (talk) 23:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Age Religion