Talk:Carandiru massacre

message: Due to the potentially of misleading, I removed the claim that Prisonbreak Sona prison was inspired on the accounts of Carandirú Prison. The claim was not supported nor cites references to verify its trustfulness.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Officer Boscorelli (talk • contribs) 17:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  False claim removed 

message: The article does not mention that the criminals doing the riot actually had guns. Funnily the article mentions that none of the policemen died in the operation, as if it was any bad, as if they were supposed to die to be fair or something. Or as if the policemen were supposed to sacrifice their own life in order to "human-rights correctly" control such a riot, rather than acting with whatever strenght they think is needed to protect their own lives - and the society - againts those who probably are there by being murderers, among other things. 
I do not quite know the numbers, but there were about a hundred of policemen against maybe thousands of prisoners rioting. At the very beggining, they threw a gas tank which exploded harming at least the higher officer commanding the policemen, which had to be taken to a hospital. I'll search for more content on the other side to put here. The book mentioned apparently is written solely on accounts of prisoners, whom presumable would draw a picture of evil policemen doing a sadistic massacre. --Extremophile 04:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article, as it currently stands, gives a fairly balanced look at the situation. Thoughts? Should we remove the POV dispute tag? Captainktainer * Talk 09:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Let's remove the POV dispute tag. JGKoblenz 17:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Extremophile accomplished a perfect overview of the situation. I vote with him. --Officer Boscorelli (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only the criminals' POV? 

message: just got this from the news section
*Twenty-three Brazilian police officers are sentenced to 156 years in jail each for their involvement in the 1992 Carandiru prison massacre. (BBC)
Looks like it ought to be in the article EdwardLane (talk) 16:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for finding this; I expanded the article with a short sentence about the convictions. To be expanded, hopefully. jonkerz ♠talk 17:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Further BBc article says next tranche of convictions - 25 policemen each jailed for 624 years. EdwardLane (talk) 14:42, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet further - there are now acquittals for the police described in this bbc article, also a presumably related murder EdwardLane (talk) 07:21, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Police Convictions 

message: I was the one who requested the boxes (check the edit history), and I've now given two valid edit summaries, which User:Cassianto failed to do. now User:Cassianto is just editwarring.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:31, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The box is a WP:DISINFOBOX.  Please justify why you feel one is needed on an article which is so small. While you do that, I'll restore the article back to its most stable state, as per WP:BRD. CassiantoTalk 08:38, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:DISINFOBOX is an essay, not a guideline. I think an article could consist of an infobox and a single sentence. Prburley (talk) 02:21, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: What a stupid opinion. An IP keeps reverting without discussing anyway, so I can't be bothered. Do as you please. CassiantoTalk 08:15, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of infoboxes summarily without edit summaries 

message: A missing part in the article is the missing chain of events; how a simple game of football and a resulting fight resulted in the death of 111 people. Furthermore, the part 'History' does not tell that the notorious ROTA brigade was responsible for the killings which is an important detail in my opinion since they are known for their brutality. Lastly; in the article it is described that the prison guards did little effort to negotiate with the prisoners. This is not entirely correct. When the military police arrived, who were at the time of the revolt in charge, the director was physically hold back to negotiate with the prisoners. I cannot find any source that tells us that the guards did nothing, so unless I can find a source the sentence will be removed.Gerard de Molenaar (talk) 10:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing chain of events 

message: Based on the other comments on the talk page, I think your approach is structurally sound. Additionally, I hope you can clear up the article for those who also think it has problems in the talk session. Good luck with your research! Aaldridge97 (talk) 00:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments  

message: Using more recent Brazilian sources, tried to improve the article's coherency and actually go into some level of detail into the incursion itself. Also mentioned what the sources were in the cases where there were discrepancies or sources were 'suboptimal'. Note that, as it is a very polarizing subject with lacking evidence, credible sources are hard to come by and discrepancies are very common. Even so, I think it's an improvement as it adds details such as the units involved, HIV which was a huge deal at the time and Ubiratan's election. I'm not the most experienced editor so please let me know if I messed up something big. 
Jesterr35 (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article update 

message: Why is the Carandiru massacre included in this category? Jarble (talk) 16:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was this a "genocidal massacre?"