Talk:Innisfallen

message: Since "Innis" means "island", surely "Innisfallen Island" is the kind of half-educated English version of a name that we find also in "Lake Windermere". I suggest moving this simply to Innisfallen, or if that is required for a disambig, then to Innisfallen (Island).
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Doric Loon (talk • contribs) 09:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may wish to examine the move proposal below from 2021. -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 12:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed move (2009)

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Innisfallen (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 12:01, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress (2021) 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved island to Innisfallen as the apparent primary topic, and Innisfallen->Innisfallen (disambiguation). See also P.S. below.  No such user (talk) 13:40, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Innisfallen Island →  – The current title is erroneous, because the Island is called "Innisfallen", not "Innisfallen Island". But apart from that, the island itself is not notable. The article is already mainly about the abbey, and that part needs to be expanded, as the abbey is very important. More details in the discussions above. Doric Loon (talk) 09:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can you explain that? You seem to agree with the first reason I gave for the move, and I can't make out what you are saying about the second, so I'm not quite sure what you mean. Sorry if I'm being dense. --Doric Loon (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The guts of the problem in general we have 3 topics, The island, the annuls, and the abbey, related but dimensionally different, are being kludged into two articles: and until we are clear about the best way forward on that an RM is inappropriate.  I have enough issues due to being clattered from incorrectly associated with Ross in county Galway being associate with a Ross down south, let alone the Ross Island next to Innisfallen and sorting out cats hereabouts earlier today.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for clarifying. (Ross just means "headland", so there are a lot more of them than you mention!) I would leave the annals out of this at the moment - that is an important text that certainly deserves its own article, and it is already at the only sensible location. --Doric Loon (talk) 17:13, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

text: It can be unwise unwise to interpret what I want.  I want a move to :Innsifallen but I'll accept I:nnisfallen (island) as better than the current name.  From a technical point of view we don't need a redirect if someone other than me is going to clean up quickly post move.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Cool! A move to Innisfallen is also my first preference, but I thought it was off the table because of the previous discussion. If we move the disambig back to where it was before (Innisfallen (disambiguation) and move this into its place, I will be happy to do the post-move clean up. But I suspect that move will require administrator rights. --Doric Loon (talk) 17:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

text: To include the disambiguation page in the move request, would require a multimove request, such as which occurred at talk:Innisfallen (formerly talk:Innisfallen (disambiguation)) earlier in May 2021. But moving pages back and forth from the same page names typically needs a month or three in between to not just move and move back again and again with over rapidity -- 67.70.27.180 (talk) 03:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

text:  You can't move this page to Innisfallen, we just had that discussion at Talk:Innisfallen#Requested move 14 May 2021.  Consensus agreed that there is no primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 03:49, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  And there may be very good reasons why that discussion may need to be reviewed!  Obviously it would need a formal proposal.  That move was not the focus of that discussion which was mainly about moving the ships.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:18, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 24 May 2021