Talk:List of presidents of the United States by education

message: Did JQA get a degree from University of Leiden? If we are including colleges attended then there will be at least a few more to add. Bkonrad | Talk
:The John Quincy Adams article says that he was there during the American Revolution, which ended when he was about sixteen, four years before he graduated from Harvard.  Thus, I would assume that his education at Leiden was informal, at least far from a college education.  —Mark Adler (markles) 00:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: John Quincy Adams

message: I recommend changing "dropped out" to "withdrew" and "flunked out" to "academically expelled" on the grounds that they sound much more encyclopedic. Captain Jackson 22:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And more NPOV!  Change them, if you like.  —Mark Adler (markles) 00:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dropped Out

message: I propose that we slightly adjust the listing order, to list those institutions which have sent multiple grads to the presidency, and perhaps giving preference to those who actually graduated (e.g. in the law school section Yale with its two graduates would trump Columbia with two less-than graduates). Within levels alphabetical would be used. Is there consensus for this change? Since there doesn't seem to be much traffic here, I'm going to bold and make the change unilaterally unless anyone objects within the next 72 hours. --YbborTalk 01:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-order by frequency?

message: Don't know how one would go about doin something to it, but it seems it'd be worth adding what they got their degrees in. W. Bush in History, Clinton in Government, etc.
MRig (talk) 17:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Add undergraduate degrees recieved?

message: So, apparently, there is a move to place those presidents who received JD's as "doctorates." While the Juris Doctor is certainly a "doctorate" in some sense, my main objection to this is that it draws a false distinction between Presidents who received LLBs and JDs when the degrees are, functionally, interchangeable. May I propose that the second "Doctorate" section to a "Law School" section and include all the Presidents with post-graduate law degrees? JEB90 (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Law Schools and "Doctorate"

message: John F. Kennedy briefly audited at Stanford.  He never officially registed there.
Both of these might be true. Please find a source.Ratemonth (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  JFK 

message: I've made the following list of what later presidents studied, based on their Wikipedia articles. Some of the articles aren't very clear. I'm not sure the best way to incorporate it into the article, and we might need to do the earlier presidents too:
* Obama - political science; law
* Bush II - history; Master of Business Administration
* Clinton - Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service (diplomacy); PPE (unfinished); law
* Bush I - economics
* Reagan - economics and sociology
* Carter - The U.S. Naval Academy, where ALL midshipmen study calculus, chemistry, and physics, and some mechanical engineering and electrical engineering before moving on to a chosen major subject. Carter's major subject was naval engineering and then on-the job, he went into nuclear engineering under Admiral Hyman G. Rickover   
* Ford - economics; law
* Nixon - Whittier College - a liberal arts college with pre-law; and then law at Duke University
* LBJ - schoolteacher training
* JFK - politics
* Eisenhower - The U.S. Military Academy, where ALL cadets study calculus, chemistry, and phyics, and then the basics of civil engineering and mechanical engineering before moving on to their chosen major subjects, including various kinds of engineerimg
* Truman 
* FDR - economics
* Hoover - geology and mining engineering
* Coolidge - ?(unclear)
* Harding - medicine
* Wilson - various included history and politics; dropped out of law school
* Taft - unknown at Yale; law
* Theodore Roosevelt - "science, philosophy and rhetoric courses but fared poorly in Latin and Greek", "an accomplished naturalist and published ornithologist"
* McKinley - briefly at Allegheny; law school
* Harrison - farming; at Miami included history, politics
* Cleveland - no college
* Arthur - classical curriculum
* Garfield - various, including Greek, Latin (which he later taught)
* Hayes - Latin and Greek
--Colapeninsula (talk) 09:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subjects studied 

message: This article repeatedly states who had or did not have a "degree". Well, you need to be more specific, especially since there is a degree, the associate's degree, that is lower than a bachelor's degree. An associate's degree is designed to be a two-year degree, and they are quite common now. Many registered nurses have an associate's degree, for example, and NOT a bachelor's degree in nursing, which is much more rigorous.
I even knew of a person who had earned three associate's degrees but no bachelor's degree at all. (I think that she was a malingerer concerning the hard junior and senior level courses.)
Also, there are fields such as architecture and pharmacy where at many schools the bachelor's degree does not exist. The first professional degree that is awarded is the master's degree, and that is only awarded after five or six years of study. The bachelor's degree in pharmacy is just about dead now in countries like the United States, Canada, and France. Also, see the six-year degree in architecture at the Georgia Institute of Technology and many other schools, which is a master's degree. 98.67.167.111 (talk) 01:47, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other kinds of degrees - and be more specific 

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message: Washington never attended any kind of classes at The College of William & Mary.  The College issued him a surveyor's certificate and that is all (please see 2nd paragraph in this article from the National Archives) which states Washington 
:"...did not study at the college to qualify for the commission or stand any examination by the president and masters of the school. There is no evidence, in fact, that GW went to Williamsburg in the spring or summer of 1749."
Therefore, I am removing the erroneous & unsourced claims that Washington attended Wm & Mary. Shearonink (talk) 05:15, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Washington's surveyor's certificate does not constitute ''attending'' William & Mary 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: But technically, he's not the president elect either.  Until Trump concedes or the electoral college meets, he's not the president elect.  Regardless, this page is for PRESIDENTS not presidents and president-elects.  I know it hurts that you can't put him on here yet, but you'll just have to wait until January 2021, like it or not, if you want the page to be factually and topically correct.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.18.176 (talk) 12:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  I know the liberals are desperate to get Biden on this page 

message: I couldn’t find any source that Wilson obtained a Master’s degree at Johns Hopkins before being granted his doctorate. Johns Hopkins didn’t start granting M.A. degrees until around 1900, almost 15 years after Wilson graduated. 15amoryblaine (talk) 10:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilson’s Master’s Degree