Talk:Welcome to the Jungle

message: I have tried to reorganize this article somewhat. I noticed that a lot of information (all good) was being presented all together; in the trivia there was a lot of stuff being repeated. I have not deleted anything; it's all been incorporated into the body of the article, including the trivia items. I hope everyone's cool with the edit. DanielEng 12:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In Limp Bizkit's song 'My Generation' the first verse opens with the lyric "do you know where you are?! welcome to the jungle, (punk)". Shouldn't this be in Trivia or something?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.121.33 (talk) 08:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limp Bizkit reference 

message: The first single from Appetite For Destruction? Wasn't it "It's so easy"?
Yes. Bucketheader 15:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: 0:07. if you listen closely you can hear it
:And? What's your point? Bucketheader 21:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  oh my god can be heard in "jungle" at.. 

message: We should put it in.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnarcistPig (talk • contribs) 22:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey, guys. This happened 

message: Hey, this song is number 2 on VH1's 40 Greatest Metal Songs. Heavy metal should be a genre added. 68.102.235.239 (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy Metal 

message: The referenced used in the following paragraph is hardly reputable and is not "According to Rose".  Should read according to some really old fan site".
According to Rose, the inspiration for the lyrics came from an encounter he and a friend had with a man while they were sleeping in a school yard in Queens. When they were approached by the "little black man", [1] he yelled at them, "You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby; you're gonna die!"  97.119.202.9 (talk) 22:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about this? (starts from 0:16)... Yuval1981 (talk) 07:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song lyric origin 

message: The song is used in the death race commercial, I'm not sure if its used in the actual movie (not likely). --71.187.140.31 (talk) 14:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used in Death Race Commercial 

message: For heaven's sake even the low standard of "The Final Countdown" is listed as a metal song. Why can't "Welcome to the Jungle"? It is way heavier. Rolling Stone called the song "full-throttle metal" (source: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/greatestsingers/page/64 ) And it made VH1's 40 greatest metal songs list. Rockgenre (talk) 03:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What a biased opinion you have Aussie. Since when is Rolling Stone not a reliable source? Even if I did have another you would most likely removed it anyway. And why didn't you answer the question I asked? "Why can't "Welcome to the Jungle"?" Like I said compare it to "The Final Countdown" and it's way heavier.Rockgenre (talk)Rockgenre 19:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Another source for it being metal http://www.blender.com/lists/68125/500-greatest-songs-since-you-were-born-451-500.html?p=8 . Rockgenre (talk) 20:00, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal 

message: Tori Black, as can be seen in her on page, has just BORN in 1988. No way she was Axl's long time friend.
And it turns out she has 22 years. 189.25.54.225 (talk) 12:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  I'm guessing that it's a different person with the same name.  So I have removed the Wikilink and added a cite needed tag.  Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:45, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tori Black 

message: Shouldn't it be noted that this song had a rerelease in the US as well after the success of "Sweet Child O Mine"? --Azul120 (talk) 10:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart Peak 

message: This page should not be speedily deleted because the tagger did not give a reason.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 05:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: If the key is needed to mention, this would be rather D# minor than F# major, so I changed the class. But is the key needed to mention?--2001:14BB:6D8:C6EA:E469:1BE1:8A0E:76D8 (talk) 07:57, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs to me mentioned and cited in the article, which it's not. So I removed it. Thanks for pointing this out! Adakiko (talk) 09:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Clear, thanks for answering, Adakiko. I noticed that there is a whole category with subcategories. I have begun to think whether they are all correct (is song's key F# major or D# minor, A major or F# minor, et cetera). Maybe they should be checked. Because I guess that there are some songs that have key mentioned as Bb minor because it sounds like Bbm, although it has been played in B minor, but with Half-step-down tuning, when it sounds like Bb minor. It is difficult to say, if Bb minor or B minor is better in that kind of cases. (Same with B major or C major, Gb major or G major, et cetera.)--37.33.213.92 (talk) 11:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The key should be mentioned in the article and that should probably wp:cite a wp:reliable source. (see [[help:referencing for beginners) Adding what the key is from personal observation / analysis is probably wp:Original research. Though it may be WP:SKYISBLUE - I'm probably classifiable as tone deaf, so I wouldn't know. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, this is good to know. I asked this, because Binksternet removed key here with reason "key signature is not defining in pop music, as it may be changed trivially for performance convenience".--37.33.157.156 (talk) 09:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The category "Songs composed in D-sharp minor" has a problem in the word "composed". We have no idea whether "Welcome to the Jungle" was composed in one key or another unless the literature describes the composition process and names the key. The band could have composed the song in one key and then played it in another key to adjust for vocal performance—it happens. A more appropriate category might be "Songs recorded in D-sharp minor", or "Songs with sheet music published in D-sharp minor". Both of those categories would need a music publisher source at the very least. Binksternet (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The key