Talk:Alberto Cutié

message: I believe the name of the periodical in the article (as of this moment) is misspelled as "TVnotas" instead of "TV y Notas", however I cannot find a valid link (in English or Spanish) to eliminate the red link.  Anyone?--CheMechanical (talk) 06:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That Flickr page is no longer accurate. This guy isn't a reliable source but he doesn't manipulate photos: http://www.dlisted.com/node/31950 - at least you can see the cover of the article there. --NellieBly (talk) 00:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''TV y Notas'' 

message: I think one of the media stories about Cutié suggested that it was possible that he be stripped of his clerical status by his original Catholic bishop in Miami, a procedure that is called laicization. The reason for this is that the Catholic Church does not recognize Episcopal ministers as having been validly ordained because of a perceived lack of apostolic succession and sacrificial priesthood, a view that is explained in Leo XIII's encyclical Apostolicae Curae. Episcopal ministers and bishops are essentially perceived to be laypeople just like other lay Catholics. 
Also, Pope Benedict XVI has recently made canonical reforms that would make it much easier for the Congregations of the Roman Curia to laicize priests that have either abandoned the ministry or that are living in canonically illicit marital situations. For instance, the ministers of the organization Married Priests Now! have recently been threatened with laicization by Catholic leaders in Africa because of the new canonical norms. 
ADM (talk) 00:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched for the story just now but couldn't find it. If you're in Miami (or any other editor is in Miami), finding a copy of the story would be useful. Of course, his laicization wouldn't mean much to the Anglicans/Episcopalians, since he's now no longer a Catholic, but still if it's verifiable it probably belongs here, since it would be notable. Then again, they might have decided against laicization specifically because he converted to Episcopalianism, as he'd no longer be a member of the Roman Catholic faith. I do know that the Catholic Church treats priests who abandon the ministry and remain Catholic very differently than those who merely convert. --NellieBly (talk) 23:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added this section  per this discussion. I hope it helps! NancyHeise  talk 20:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Laicization

message: :::Cutie is discussed in America Magazine here . I think it is a great article discussing scientific research into priests who left the Catholic Church and why. Someone might want to use this to expand this article since Cutie is mentioned more than once. The scientist suggests that he did not leave for theological reasons but because he could not reconcile his love with celibacy. I think dioceses could help their priests by focusing on this aspect of the priesthood and help them learn how to love people and express it in prayer. Perhaps the same lesson could apply to laywomen as well. NancyHeise  talk 21:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Source for possible article expansion

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