Talk:Tōdai-ji

message: Reputedly the largest wooden building in the world... That honor, I'm afraid, actually goes to a dirigible hanger in Tillamook, Oregon. --Calton 15:44, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reputedly 

message: I agree. 'ji' means temple, so it's redundant. And I just think "The Todaiji" sounds better, and more accurate.
Also, is anybody interested in adding to the history of this structure? I know it was destroyed in the Genpei Wars, as was the Daibutsu inside. The article seems to indicate as though it has never been destroyed nor rebuilt... If no one else wants to, I suppose I could add things, but... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordAmeth (talk • contribs) 01:00, 2004 December 8 (UTC)
* I'll see if I've any details on it at home (I picked up a handful of stuff at the tourist office in Nara, so there's got to be something in there). But if you want to add details to the history of the temple, by all means do so. If you're unsure whether people will believe you, cite your sources. Oh yes, and I agree with the move proposal. Average Earthman 11:26, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: * Not that it's a terribly big deal now, but it's only natural that when you add a term to a google search that you will recieve fewer hits.  It would be impossible for "Todai-ji Temple Nara" to have more hits than "Todai-ji Nara".  Seems like a bit of a rigged test to me.  In any case, "Todai-ji" is still the proper name for the article, if for no other reason than it follows the standard set for such articles as Kiyomizu-dera and Hōryū-ji. -- Exitmoose 01:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yeah, I think we should move it. 

message: Rename it the "mystery temple" and let us try to solve the mystery of why the normal rules of mathematics are suspended there.  How, if the Buddha contains 440 kg of gold and 499 "tons" (whatever they are) of copper, does the total weight get to be "250 tons"?
>> The metal is used for coating, not for the actual buddha. Duh.
What are " balls whose diameter are 18 cm and whose height are 30 cm each"?  To me, balls are round objects.  Spheres.  Same height as diameter.  Gene Nygaard 20:32, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mysteries

message: Changed "Shinto Buddism(sic)" to Shinto.  Shinto and Buddhism have been linked from time to time in history, (see Shinbutsu Shugo) but Shinto is definitely not a form of Buddhism. Tallasse 02:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinto Buddhism? 

message: Is it relevant that the deer are not afraid? It somehow gives the wrong impression, they can be quite intimidating demanding food and snapping ladies handbags. Grmf 12:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deer not afraid of humans 

message: For some odd reason, the photo in the gallery of someone crawling through the pillar doesn't display properly.  I've removed it until someone can find the reason and fix the problem. -- Exitmoose 01:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried it in Firefox and Internet Explorer and it works in both. Maybe it was a temporary glitch, or maybe the problem has been solved? I've put the photo back. Let us know if it doesn't work for your browser. Fg2 07:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pillar photo in the gallery

message: Some notes and thoughts:
Intro: re: Sika Deer
Not to say there is anything wrong with this statement itself at all, it may find a better place to fit itself in than here.  eg. Nara Park, Kasuga Shrine.
Left for the moment, but with a small question mark to see it especially in the top intro of a Buddhist temple article.
History: re: Emperor Shomu's "law"
Can "ordinance" instead of "law" sound better for this context?
History: re: Number of people involved - 2.6 Million?
It's not in legend, it is documented. 
Some redundancy around the mention of this figure is removed.
The estimate of total population of that time needs some citation, which was not provided, therefore removed; besides, judging whether the number is exaggerated or not should be left open to the readers or historians, unless another citation on such comment is available.
History: Kuninaka-no-muraji Kimimaro
He may merit his own article page, as being a prominent sculptor of this period, than only occupying a full line or two inside the body text of this article.
--OhMyDeer 19:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro and History

message: I removed the sentence "Regardless, the effort was worthwhile - the Buddha stands today as it did more than 1300 years ago." First, Wikipedia should not judge whether something is worthwhile. Second, the appearance has changed during the intervening years, especially during the Siege of Nara. Fg2 (talk) 08:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, such statements detract from Wikipedia's neutral point of view.  We're here just to present the facts.  Thanks for catching that.  :)  --Ph0kin (talk) 11:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worth, appearance 

message: I don't think this is correct. The Echizen Daibutsu at the Seidai-ji in Katsuyama, Fukui prefecture, is 2 meters higher (see here: http://www.geocities.jp/etizen_daibutu/birusyanabutu.htm ). There is not much English information about it, I could scan the pamphlet if this helps...
The Showa Daibutsu near Aomori is even higher, although not placed within a buidling. Both are made from bronze. 180.188.217.44 (talk) 17:25, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "the world's largest bronze statue of the Buddha Vairocana" 

message: Am extremely envious! At the moment there's a list of buildings that are National Treasures but there are also a lot of Important Cultural Properties. Maybe it would be good to have a table of all these buildings running something like this (I've populated it from the database, with search for 東大寺). I guess the more complete and the higher-quality the images the better - should give you plenty to look out for! Happy hunting! Also, do we need some kind of plan to make overall sense of the complex?
Image                           	Name	Date       	Architecture                                                                            	Other Comments                          	Designation
now this is where you come in...	    	1716-37    	41x1 bay, single-storey, tiled roof                                                     	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1716-37    	41x1 bay, single-storey, tiled roof                                                     	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1200-50    	3x3 bay, single-storey, hōgyō-zukuri, tiled roof                                        	                                        	NT
                                	    	794-929    	3x3 bay, azekura, yosemune-zukuri, tiled roof                                           	Repository for donations                	ICP
                                	    	1705       	5x5 bay, single-storey with mokoshi, yosemune-zukuri, tiled roof, copper-tiled karahafu 	                                        	NT
                                	    	1185-1274  	                                                                                        	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1681       	3x3 bay, twin-storey, yosemune-zukuri, tiled roof                                       	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1207-10    	1x1 bay, single-storey, irimoya-zukuri, tiled roof                                      	                                        	NT
                                	    	1408       	8x5 bay, single-storey, irimoya-zukuri front, kirizuma-zukuri rear, tiled roof, tsumairi	Bath-house                              	ICP
                                	    	1714       	5 bay, three-door rōmon, tiled roof                                                     	                                        	ICP
                                	    	Nara period	3 bay, single-door hakkyakumon, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled roof                             	                                        	NT
                                	    	1722       	3 bay, single-door hakkyakumon, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled roof                             	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1719       	3 bay, single-door hakkyakumon, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled roof                             	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1199       	5 bay, three-door, twin-storey, irimoya-zukuri, tiled-roof                              	                                        	NT
                                	    	1669       	10x7 bay, single-storey, yosemune-zukuri, tiled-roof                                    	                                        	NT
                                	    	1277-1282  	5x4 bay, single-storey, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled-roof                                     	For seclusion and prayer                	ICP
                                	    	1185-1274  	5x2 bay, single-storey, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled-roof                                     	For preparation of ritual food offerings	ICP
                                	    	1275-1332  	3x2 bay, single-storey, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled-roof                                     	Double well for serving Buddha          	ICP
                                	    	1237       	3x3 bay, single-storey, yosemune-zukuri, tiled-roof                                     	                                        	ICP
                                	    	747, 1199  	5x8 bay, single-storey, irimoya-zukuri front, yosemune-zukuri rear, tiled-roof          	                                        	NT
                                	    	794-929    	3x3 bay, azekura, yosemune-zukuri, tiled-roof                                           	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1335       	7x4 bay, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled-roof                                                    	                                        	ICP
                                	    	1240       	four-post, kirizuma-zukuri, tiled-roof                                                  	                                        	ICP
                                	    	710-793    	3x2 bay, azekura, yosemune-zukuri, tiled-roof                                           	Repository                              	NT
Plus apparently the precinct and south precinct are Historic Sites. The Shōsōin photo is a little dark; there are lots of statues without good images (don't know if you will be able to do much about that though) - the possibilities are nigh endless... Have fun, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow! This is Exactly what I needed! I wont be able to get every shot on this trip but I will make a start at it. I will be going back several times through out the summer so I hope to fill in the list. I will look at the other lists of Treasures and do my best on them as well. The only ones that may prove difficult are ones in museums with "no Photo" policies. But If I ask politely to be allowed to take one shot each visit I may get permission for all of them eventually heh. Thanks! Colincbn (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, no photo policies are the main reason why we don't have many pictures of museum objects or sculptures. Probably you know it already, but since it took me some time to realize, I want to mention it anyway... No photo policies have nothing to do with licensing of the images you take. Any old stuff is public domain, so you are free to take pictures of it and upload to commons. No photo rules are basically house rules. If you took a picture of a no-photo-object and uploaded it to commons, you'd violate these house rules but not copyright/licensing. Not sure what could happen if you violate house rules. They could probably refuse you entry next time you visit, so better ask whether it is allowed to take pictures. bamse (talk) 07:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos and the Cultural Properties Database 

message: Just for curiosity, what is left of old temple structures indicated in this map as dotted lines, e.g. East/West pagodas, Saidaimon,... bamse (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remains 

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