Talk:Harlequin

message: Great work clarifying the sources and information.  I wonder if you could add under 
The Name
all of the different spellings and uses of the name and where it is derived from.  I noticed some on there, but I know there are a few more you can mention!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lestone1 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Other meanings

message: *As a consequence Harlequin → Harlequin (disambiguation)); This is English Wikipedia and as per MoS the common English name should be used. The Harlequin character deserves primary topic disambiguation as it is the original from which all of the subsequent items on the disambiguation pages are derived. Jooler 01:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: page move

message: Moved. WhiteNight T | @ | C 23:28, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Result

message: I can understand why the Italian and French words for harlequin are listed (as the English word comes from the Italian through the French) but why the German and Portuguese words? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.175.83.141 (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  question? 

message: "In today's culture, harlequins are seen quite often, especially in the New Orleans Mardi Gras celebrations. Harlequins frequently appear in pop culture, such as Harley Quinn from the Batman series and Harle from Square Enix's game Chrono Cross."
"In the comic book version representing Batman and the Justice League (either together or seperately), a female assistant wearing a jester costume is sometimes given to the Joker. She is known as Harley Quinn."
I think this needs to be fixed, but I am not sure which one to delete/edit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalFool (talk • contribs) 23:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harley Quinn appears twice 

message: * Re the etymology theory "From the term Hellequin, which is said to originate as middle age French for "the devil's horseman""; this theory may have been around for a long time, but is it genuine, or is it a false etymology invented in former centuries by Church priests trying to show that "the theater (and all other secular entertainment) is sinful and comes from the Devil"? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From What I've been seeing on the page and the research I've done so far I'm going to omitt the mention of "Alicchino" and Dante's Inferno since there is no relaible source that explicitly makes a connection.--WillFri (talk) 22:17, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin? 

message: I propose that Hellequin be merged into Harlequin. I think that the content in the Hellequin article can easily be explained in the context of Harlequin, and the Harlequin article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Hellequin will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. It should also be an chance to add references about Hellequin Bikepunk2 (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, I'll try to get find out some references and merge it in the coming days if no one disagree untill then. Bikepunk2 (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just performed the merging. Bikepunk2 (talk) 13:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: This does not read well. Many errors, generally consistent with the bad habits of Eastern European non-native English speakers, e.g., omitted indefinite articles abound. 
The entry really just needs a rewrite, with special attention paid to its focus and the relevance of its parts. e.g. in "Others attribute the name to Dante's Inferno, XXI, XXII and XXIII; one of the devils in Hell having the name Alichino," is it really necessary to cite each chapter in which the character Alichino appears? Does anyone actually attribute the name 'harlequin' this way, "see Dante, chapter XXI & XXII & &XXIII"? I have to believe they don't. They attribute it to Dante simply, or else they cite its first appearance in Dante, and leave it go.
Examples of the idiocy:
Idries Shah has claimed that Harlequin be of Sufi origins
Shah argues that the Arabic name aghlaq - which was given to such sufi masters - with plural form "aghlaqueen" pronounced with the guttural gh- as the Spanish jota, would have given the word Harlequin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.78.131.123 (talk) 10:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Writing

message: It becomes even more simple if one simply consults literature by actual historians, esp. on history of comedy.
It turns out it is known that the name Arlequin was picked by the actor Tristano Martinelli of Bergamo for his zanno character. He went on to become extremely successful in Paris, and a favourite of the French king, giving immortality to the character he created.
He took the name explictly from the "popular French devil" because a resemblance to his own character. By the time of Martinelli's death in 1630, the Arlequin character had become stock and continued to be interpreted by other actors. 
Any further discussion of the name Arlequin does not concern the Harlequin character but will be a question of the history of the "devil" character in medieval French passion plays. --dab (𒁳) 11:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the character (brief version)

message: I reckon adding a section for this topic would be appropriate, but wanted to see what we think. The section could explain how the traditional Harlequin role is still scripted into modern film (in at least those mainstream and western-made), and how the character/plot features are preserved. This could be kept general, feature a few famous examples in-paragraph (i.e. Joker from DC/'the Dark Knight' film, R2-D2 from the 'Star Wars' series, etc.), or even contain a list of Harlequin-role characters (this option would leave the See Also section for only traditional characters, if decided better that way). I think using brief examples in-sentence would be good, e.g.: "...core character features such as the ability to understand their existing in a film/"break the fourth wall", integral importance in the direction of the plot (themes similar to traditional Harlequin wand-action), and a constant voice of humour within the script. For an example, R2-D2 in the Star Wars film series is a key character in the entire plot, seemingly knowing all acts necessary to progress involved scenes - but also constantly acts and speaks comically, is extremely agile/acrobatic, and even alludes to events yet to happen to show his knowledge of the film series' own continuity." This example may be long, but is only an example for us to think about here. Let me know what we think. VeraxVoice (talk) 14:45, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harlequins in Modern Film