Talk:Accusative case

message: These words descend from pronouns which were dative only, not accusative.  The -m ending is characteristic of singular masculine datives across several Germanic languages, including modern Icelandic and German as well as Old English.  According to the OED a true accusative masculine singular pronoun persisted in some dialects as late as a couple of centuries ago; this was "hine".   Again, this follows a pattern seen in other Germanic languages that still have an accusative; in modern German, for example, it's "ihn". 
Pithecanthropus (talk) 22:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Him, whom, her, etc. 

message: I'm not a linguist, but is a refrence to accusative case in german really relevant? I know latin probably is because it's a root of english, but I don't know what information a lay person could glean fr4om that particular paragraph...  Ahudson 18:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at German nouns#Declension classes to see which classes of nouns have different nominative and accusative singular forms. — Eru·tuon 07:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  german??? 

message: I'm no linguist either so I won't attempt to update the article, but I do know from having spent a year in Hungary and learned the language that Hungarian has a distinct accusative case for nouns which always ends in -t. Maybe someone could add that if it's relevant.
:Done. Some details and exceptions are still missing, but I am not a linguist, either, only Hungarian :-) --Providus (talk) 22:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungarian 

message: Why does the Latin section give a Spanish example for the accusative of duration of time? That confuses me a bit. 
--Insolectual (talk) 17:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin examples 

message: In case someone happens to check this page again, I'm confused about the part at the top of the page which says "The accusative case exists (or existed once) in all the Indo-European languages." Did one or more of the languages quit using this case? Are you referring to dead languages? Thanks for your help. 12.207.120.160 (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Or existed once? 

message: ACC takes very important part in Asian agglutinative languages.
This article should include Korean "eul/reul" and Japanese "wo". -202.136.135.165 (talk) 03:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this. 2600:387:5:805:0:0:0:56 (talk) 23:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should include Korean and Japanese example 

message: In Engish, when a noun is written in italics it emphasizes this noun and no other. Is this the same as accusative? Consider the sentence "I gave it to him" and compare the meaning of the sentence with the word "him" written in italics compared to the word "I" written in italics. They are too entirely different sentences really.
Comments please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.53.54.121 (talk) 21:27, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that “I gave it to him” is a different sentence from “I gave it to him”. The italics show additional stress in pronouncing the words. The first sentence emphasizes that the speaker gave it, and not someone else. The second sentence emphasizes that it was given to the male person (or animal) mentioned in the immediately preceding discussion, and not someone else.
:Nevertheless, in both sentences “I” (the subject of the verb) is in the subjective case (it would have been the nominative case in Old English). In both sentences “him” (the direct object) is in the objective case (in Old English, the accusative case). Italics and emphasis have nothing to do with case.
:In modern English, aside from five pronouns “me”, “him”, “her”, “them”, and “whom”, the direct object is determined by word order, not by inflections. This is one reason we must distinguish “direct object” (a relationship that a word or phrase can have to the verb) from “accusative case” (an inflected form of a word which marks the direct object, and may have other uses as well). Every transitive verb has a direct object, but many (most?) languages do not have an accusative case. — Solo Owl (talk) 04:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italic emphasis and the accusative case 

message: In the definition, please include examples that use contrast.  Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.243.193.248 (talk) 05:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difficult to follow. 

message: plz elaborate on german  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.211.27 (talk) 16:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  German not clear? 

message: Modern Standard Eastern Armenian has historically merged the nominative and the accusative (NOM/ ACC zero case marker), the genitive and the dative (special GEN/ DAT case marker(s)). 
However, it uses the genitive/ dative case to denote an animate direct object (used definitely or indefinitely), but the nominative/ accusative case for an animate direct object used generically, and for an inanimate direct object. 
In the examples from the article Արամը վերցրեց գիրքը: [Aramë verchrech girkhë] Aram took the book and Արամը սիրում է իր ուսուցչին: [Aramë sirum ē ir usuchčhin] Aram loves his teacher the direct objects (գիրքը and ուսուցչին) aren't in the accusative case and the endings -ը and -ին aren't the accusative markers. The inanimate գիրքը is the nominative/ accusative form (zero ending) + the definite article (ը) and the animate ուսուցչին (ի genitive/ dative ending) is the genitive/ dative form + the definite article (ն). (The Armenian definite article is allomorphic: ն or ը depending on the following sound.)
77.120.164.200 (talk) 11:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Data and Examples with Armenian. Needs Correcting  

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message: Doesn't it still exist in all of them? The accusative case exists in all languages with nominative-accusative morphosyntax which includes all of Indo-European. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 06:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The accusative case is typical of early Indo-European languages and still exists in some of them"