Talk:José Navarro (painter)

message: The title of this article is somewhat confusing. There are two spanish artists with very similar names:
* José Hernández Navarro (born 1954) is a 20th century Spanish sculptor
* José Navarro Llorens (1867-1923) was a 19th century/early 20th century Spanish painter and artist. 
Was there another Jose Navarro - an 18th century painter who was active in Valencia, as this article suggests? I believe that this article is intended to be a stub for José Navarro Llorens  who was active in Valencia. But if so, the article title should reflect his full name José Navarro Llorens and it is unclear why his name has been abbreviated. The article provides no dates - other than the mention of 18th century in brackets. I have searched for an 18th century artist called Navarro and come up with a blank. 
To avoid any confusion with the other person carrying a similar name, the title of this article should be changed. The correct name and details appear on Wiki Commons. It is impossible to expand this article without having more clues as to which artist is the intended subject. 
Is there an expert out there who can shed some light on this? BronHiggs (talk) 04:25, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing Title and Unclear Biographical Subject 

message: Here are the names of Spanish painters, with José Navarro in their full name:
* 1. Victora Don José Navarro (born 1687 - died 1771 Madrid) mainly painted military scenes/portraits, produced relativeley few paintings O'Neill, Dictionary of Spanish Painters, Part 1: 14th to 18th centuries, London, Newman, 1833- almost certainly the same man as Juan José Navarro, 1st Marquis of la Victoria
* 2. José Navarro y Llorens (1867-1923)  - active in Valencia, noted for Orientalist paintings
* 3. Juan José Navarro (1798-1856) - no details known 
* 4. José Navarro (born 1800 ) - produced paintings of street life in Moorocco and Spain (i.e.Orientalist subject matter)- no further details available 
Both (1) and (3) could feasibly be desscribed as 18th century Spanish painters, but to date, it is not been possible to establish if they were active in Valencia. Number 2 was active in Valencia, but is not an 18th century painter.
BronHiggs (talk) 22:52, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: A bit more digging

message: After 5 months without any comment about the confusion noted above, I have gone ahead and developed the article on the assumption that the subject of the article is José Navarro y Llorens (1867-1923). José Navarro y Llorens was noted for his still-life paintings, but was not born in the 18th century as the original stub suggested, but fits with other information in the original stub. I think we can rule out the Jose Navarro who was a sculptor and José Navarro (b.1800 ) who was not known for still life works. And, there is too litte information on Juan José Navarro (1798-1856) to rule him in or out. So, I have made an assumption that just one of the facts presented in the original stub was a typo. 
In effect this means that Wikipedia still does not have any articles on other Spanish painters with similar names, namely: 
* Juan José Navarro (1798-1856) - no details known;  few references found  
* José Navarro (born 1800 )  - produced paintings of street life in Moorocco and Spain (i.e.Orientalist subject matter)- no further details available 
If anyone wants to create articles for these notable painters, please feel free. I would be happy to help translating any Spanish sources if that is of assistance since Spanish is my second language. 
BronHiggs (talk) 01:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: José Navarro y Llorens (1867-1923)