Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arts/Archive 1

message: I just did a few calculations. Of Featured articles, arts-related articles comprise roughly 20%, while they comprise 19% of Good articles. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 01:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Arts-related percentages

message: I just whipped this up! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 19:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead and re-word it as you wish. I didn't create this as a template as I don't see it being used very much. Certainly once the project gets off the ground we may consider making this a template, but as it stands I think just inserting the code will work just as well. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 16:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tag for WikiProjects

message: Why are television-, film- and radio-related WikiProjects currently excluded from this list? They're no more or less "artistic" than sculpture, comics, or music. Also, what about other, non-theatrical performing arts, like dance and perhaps stage magic? -Silence 18:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm of the opinion all of those should be included. I didn't even consider Magic, but it certainly does qualify. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 18:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. They're all currently listed under "Arts" in Wikipedia:List of WikiProjects, anyway. -Silence 18:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Dance was duly added and I'll do Magic next. Film I'm willing to add, but I don't know about Buffy, Digimon or Star Wars: it seems to me that there are plenty of fans to keep these projects in the pink of health, and they neither need help like Theatre or Visual arts nor can they help us, as a big project like Music potentially could with related aspects of the arts. Perhaps I'm wrong, but do those pop culture topics really need what Project Arts is intended to offer as much as ones of the kind already on the list? HAM  19:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any need to add series-specific projects here. I was suggesting that we add WikiProject Film and WikiProject Television, not that we add WikiProject Star Wars or WikiProject Doctor Who or anything of the sort; why would we have to include those just to include "Film" and "Television", when we don't have to include "WikiProject Harry Potter" or "WikiProject Middle-earth" just to list "Novels" here, nor "WikiProject The Beatles" to list "Music" and "Musicians" here? That level of detail is unnecessary, as it should be covered on WikiProject Television, Music, Film, etc. instead, if anywhere. -Silence 19:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, that's perfectly fine by me, then! HAM  19:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope

message: We have been increasing our activity from the end of last year and have recruited a number of new members. We are progressing through Wikipedias diet of article on Novel (of whatever level of elitism) and striving for increased quality and consistency. The consistency is more difficult to acheive as Novels come in all shapes and styles and articles that pre-exist are more difficult to bring to consistency. Anyway all the best. I have joined up as a contact between these projects. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome! We're certainly glad to have a representative of WikiProject Novels! I just glanced at the project and I'm particularly impressed with the categorization project. This is something we may have to steal for this project. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 20:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Greetings from [[:Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels]]

message: I threw together a new layout for the mainpage. Now, it looks much better, methinks. Certainly not as sterile as it was. If anyone thinks the yellow is too bright, feel free to change the colours or let me know and I'll do it. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 18:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm damning with faint praise, but I can live with it. :) Hiding The wikipedian meme 21:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Better looking apart from the colours - please, please go for something more subtle. We do not want to put people off before they join. Also I suspect once underway fully the layout will need to change again to be more functinal. At present this is beginning to take on the sharacter of a Portal. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think the redesign has flair! If it has to be changed – and I suppose Ganymead's (IMO marvellous) in-house style is something you either love or hate – let's at least keep it looking distinctive. Perhaps we should be taking our cue from some of the more aesthetically successful userpages. I see no reason why ours should look like every other WikiProject page. HAM  18:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree, as long as the design isn't too esoteric.  We don't want to alienate people with an élitist design that's hard to use.  But I definitely like what's going on now with the design.  Good work, Ganymead! -- T.o.n.y 18:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the compliments. Feel free to tweak the design if y'all would like. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 18:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Ahhh, the art critics have appeared! Thank you for your critique. It should be pointed out that I'm not really a designer, i'm a thespian who has taken a few design courses. Basically, this design is the design I've used for the two theatre wikiprojects I've created as well as my own userpage. It was my intent only to "jazz up" this page and give it a bit of flair. I'm completely open to any suggestions as to how to make this page more presentable. Of course, any project member is encouraged to make any changes they wish! So, go at it. I'll take a look at it tomorrow and see what can be removed to let the "text breathe". Cheers! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 08:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New layout

message: Opera has also been an active area during the past few months. We have a long way to go before we can begin to rival the coverage of the main print resource (the New Grove Dictionary of Opera), however in the long term Wikipedia is better suited to developing an up-to-date performance history than a conventional encylopedia.
We have made some progress in developing an appropriate ‘project style’ based on Wikipedia policies, taking into account that we are using many terms and references in languages other than English. Categorization is disorganized and proliferated, perhaps it always will be on Wikipedia? It might be helpful if the Arts Project produced some guidelines. I see there is a Portal:Arts/Categories page and I may make some comments there.
Lastly I hope members here respect the work done by the individual projects and do not try to impose solutions on them. Advice will be much appreciated, but not peremptory editing! Best regards to all. - Kleinzach 18:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome! We're glad to have your input here. One of the things I'd like to see this porject accomplish is a cleanup of arts-related categories. See below. Again, welcome! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 08:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Greetings from [[:Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera]]

message: This morning (May the 1st) Portal:Arts didn't have a featured article or picture ready to feature! I knocked together Portal:Arts/Featured article/May, 2006 (the Abbey Theatre in Dublin) and Portal:Arts/Featured picture/May, 2006 (a Henry Moore sculpture) a few minutes ago but clearly there needs to be a voting process in place to decide which FAs/FPs appear on the Portal page. Another huge problem is that Portal:Art, linked to on hundreds of pages, still misleadingly redirects to Portal:Arts – amending all those links might be a job for a bot. HAM  11:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with the Portal

message: Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 4
There's a proposal to remove the Arts from the Top 10! Can anyone think of an argument for the Arts being more than a subdivision of Culture? Again, something I really must call the whole project's attention to – this would change the whole architecture of Wikipedia, and I don't think in our favour. HAM  21:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have opposed it. Judging by the :Category:Culture page, culture is not a well defined category. It's a mixture of social science items, arts and arts institutions, sport, philosophy, religion etc. even housing, humor and travel!  It would be better to exclude the arts (which are reasonably well-defined) and stick to a proper anthropological/social science definition of culture, in my opinion. But then another of the top 10 is people! It's really not very impressive. - Kleinzach 22:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Further point. I would argue for the Arts as one of the three basic (traditional) categories alongside the Humanities (including history, geography, philosophy, languages etc.) and the Sciences (including technology). - Kleinzach 12:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sciences are not there either, but that's not really the point. The Arts are fundamental because they represent creative aspirations. If you reduce them to a sub-category of culture, you treat them as an aspect of human behaviour. Perhaps that is what you mean when you say that Art is "clearly an aspect of culture"? Kleinzach 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Major'' change being proposed on CfD

message: It's been suggested at the above section that the link to Arts at the top of the main page be removed also. Hiding Talk 23:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: See also [[Talk:Main Page#Proposed change to the top of the page subject list ("Culture" to replace "Arts")]]

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