Talk:Lineworker

message: This occupation is also called "linesman", so I have modified the intro. My brother has this job in the UK and that is how it is referred to here. See also  and  for examples. --kingboyk 21:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linesman 

message: I have never heard the use of the term lineperson.  The plural linepersons just sounds ridiculous.  I propose to change the name of the article to lineworker which is a common term in Australia.  I think this term is even used in job adds.  I doubt we would even need a redirect for Lineperson.
Lumberjack Steve 10:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not particularly fussed with the terminology.  Linesman is historically the title.  Lineworker is now more common (formally at least) in Australia. Lumberjack Steve 11:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dislike the change, but I can live with it as long as lineworker is actually in common use somewhere (so that it's not original research).  Since you say it is in common use in Australia, I think it's okay for now.  --Coolcaesar 17:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gender Equality

message: The article name should be changed back to Lineman.  "Linesperson" and "lineperson" aren't even words.  I have never heard "lineworker" except occasional use by people who are trying to be P.C. and are not, themselves, in the electric power industry.  By far, the most common terms are Lineman and Linesman.  If it's true that the user who gender-neutralized this article was banned then we really should revert back to the last version before any of "hir" edits and pick up from there.  Anyone for a vote or discussion on changing the article name back?  Wikipedia's job should be to reflect actual usage, not to promote agendas, this includes promoting gender-neutral terms that aren't yet in wide use.  Puppy Mill 00:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support the move back to lineman, which gets over 4 million hits on Google, versus lineworker's 76,000.  --Coolcaesar 04:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not fussed either way.  I accept that in the US lineman is most common, UK is probably linesman and Australia lineworker is the formal usage.  Informally (and historically) in Australia linesman or even liney is probably more common.  If the article name is changed I would like a redirect and acknowledgment of the term lineworker though. Lumberjack Steve 11:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also support this move.  Shall I file a request over at Requested moves? Kevin_b_er 03:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. Lumberjack Steve 11:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change back to original name

message: I filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Discuss. Puppy Mill 13:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discuss change back to original name, cont.

message: :The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
===Terminology===
I would like to delete this entire section.  Some of the terms mentioned are already linked in the rest of the article and many of the terms mentioned really have no need to be in this article at all.  There is no need to distinguish between distribution and transmission or discuss the difference in earth or ground terminology.  This article is about linemen who basically work on lines.
Please respond if interested and if there is no objection I will delete in a week or so. Lumberjack Steve 12:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move (2006)

message: Lineworker (occupation) → Lineman (occupation) — See the discussion above in part.  Lineman is the most common and prevelant usage for what's described in the article.  Lineworker or Lineperson is really only used by people trying to be PC, which wikipedia does not need to be. Kevin_b_er 16:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Add  * Support  or  * Oppose  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
* Support (assuming that means rv to Lineman). In 1991 when I quit Kentucky Utilities (US), I was was officially called a Service Technician (formerly Serviceman), and had been a Line Technician (formerly Lineman). Suggestion: go back to Lineman and redirect the other terms to it - there seem to be many of them. It might be an interesting sub-topic to list the various monikers and where they are used. Wake 19:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I would like to delete this entire section.  Some of the terms mentioned are already linked in the rest of the article and many of the terms mentioned really have no need to be in this article at all.  There is no need to distinguish between distribution and transmission or discuss the difference in earth or ground terminology.  This article is about linemen who basically work on lines.
Please respond if interested and if there is no objection I will delete in a week or so. Lumberjack Steve 12:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terminology

message: Who is this Too Nickolff who seems to be vandalizing this page?  Is there any way to permanently ban this user?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.147.32.17 (talk) 06:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes Wikipedia:Blocking policy but not at anonymous behest.  Jim.henderson (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism 

message: I have reverted an edit that stated:
"It should be noted that the terms 'live' and 'dead' are archaic, and improper. The correct terms are energized and de-energized. The use of 'hot' should also be avoided."
The two terms are common where I work and have definitions in our code of practice documentation.  We have different definitions for dead and de-energized or live and energized.
Live: means energised or subject to hazardous induced or capacitive voltages.
Energised: means connected to a source of electrical supply.
Dead: means isolated and at earth potential.
De-energised: means not connected to any source of electrical supply but not necessarily isolated.
Lumberjack Steve (talk) 17:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaic term 

message: It looks fairly obvious to me that its written in pro IBEW, pro worker point of view seeing that one part I removed paints IBEW as the most important union. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased tone 

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