Talk:List of divided cities

message: I doubt that these two can really be considered a divided city. The city of Nova Gorica was built after their division, as a "substitution" for Gorizia, which was ceded to Italy. When Gorizia was given to Italy, the region in the Slovenian part lost its regional entre and a new one was decided to be built. Nova Gorica was built on Solkansko polje, a flat and muddy area with little agricultural activity, next to Gorizia. But the city of Gorizia itself was never really divided.
Apart from the railway station, no notable buildings in the city of Gorizia remained on the Slovenian side, not to my knowledge at least.
Also, unlike many others, these two cities were always in good terms. An example is the "Marathon of Friendship" organized between the cities every year, even when Slovenia was still a part of communist Yugoslavia. I have to admit that lately I haven't heard of it (there never was as much cooperation as there is today though), but I did a history project on it a few years ago. edolen1 17:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nova Gorica/Gorizia 

message: _ _ What is the basis for stating this definition? IMO the natural topic of cities straddling a border does not hinge on having had a common government at one time, but on having as much social and economic integration as would be expected of a single city, in spite of a border that impedes governmental integration. Texarkana lks here but describes a history that AFAI can see suggests social and economic integration occuring despite a pre-existing border. The two Kansas Citys, in Missouri and Kansas, may be another example, and Mystic, Connecticut, partly in Groton and partly in Stonington IIRCC is likely to be.
_ _ My point is not that the dictionary definition admirably included in the lead sentence may not give the definition right, but that i doubt there is a clear enuf established expression to justify a single dictdef. This topic may call for an article that treats a topic too seldom discusssed to have 
* on one hand either of two histories (division at a point in time vs. joint growth despite a prior barrier to formal integration) as a focus, or
* on the other, an short unambiguous name as a phenomenon.
--Jerzy•t 18:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition 

message: This article and Cross-border town naming appear to be covering the same territory (pun intended). I propose they be merged. TiffaF 07:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Cross-border town naming]] 

message: Why is Berlin part of the :Category:Divided City but Jerusalem isn't? I would have though both should be. --Peter cohen 14:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divided city category. 

message: And what about Qorasuv and Kara-Suu? These cities have similar names and divided by border.--Anatoliy (Talk) 20:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Qorasuv]] 

message: I think this pair of cities should not be part of this list. Historically, Kehl was only part of Strasbourg during the Nazi occupation of Alsace. So they are not one city divided into two parts, but two cities which were temporary merged. I will remove them from the list. --Hansbaer2 (talk) 08:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kehl/Strasbourg 

message: I'm not sure Kansas City Missouri/Kansas should be on the list.  Granted, they do, for all practical purposes, constitute a "divided city" insofar as they are contiguous to one another, share the same name, and together form nucleous for a single metropoliatin entitity.  However, the definition provided for a "divided city" would seem to require that they constituted a single entity in some time in the past.  I don't think this is the case with Kansas City.  If I recall correctly, the establishment of the border between Kansas and Missouri preceeded the founding of either Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri.  Thus, they have never consituted a single entity.  
I'm not sure, but I think the same may be the case for Texarkana Texas/Arkansas.Johnsonkurtis (talk) 02:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That leaves the question of whether sub-national borders are within the scope of this list, for instance New York/Newark. This also risks becoming a list of every pair of border towns along the line. K7L (talk) 13:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: K7L's point can be answered by restricting this page to cities which currently have, or once had, a united government. Listing suburbs of a metropolitan area seems very silly to me in this context. Getting back to Kansas City (which I'm NOT very familiar with) I see it as very similar to Niagara Falls: Two cities which were never a single unit, but which are so close geographically, and so similar sociologically, that the residents consider it a single city in all ways except legal and political. Keeves (talk) 14:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I can speak for KC at least. The cultures of eastern Kansas and western Missouri are nearly indistinguishable from each other. However the cultural difference between Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas CIty, Missouri has historically been vast. KCK has been, historically, primarily an industrial district with some suburban "streetcar" style suburbs as you move away from the city center. The confusion that they are a single city comes from the choice of the founders of KCK to  name that city after Kansas City, Missouri in the hopes that investors back east would invest in the already recognized name. So it really comes down to how you define city. As governmental units, absolute difference. As the "built up" or "urban" area they are absolutely one city along with all of the other inner and outer ring suburbs within the metropolitan area. Grey Wanderer (talk) 17:43, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Kansas City/Texarkana

message: Finnish/Swedish Tornio/Haparanda is listed under "United cities that were divided". I think it should be removed! Haparanda was not founded until after the Swedish/Russian border was installed in the area. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 07:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tornio/Haparanda 

message: This cities are listed on the "Formerly united cities that were divided" but then they are also mentioned on the "Cities that arose next to each other across a boundary line"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.229.147.190 (talk) 23:13, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  El Paso/Ciudad Juarez 

message: Should Belfast in Northern Ireland not be added here? 95.141.18.12 (talk) 00:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belfast