Talk:Crossplay (cosplay)

message: The discussion of female and male crossplay is all very unclear...  Is "male crossplay" males dressing as females, or males dressing as females?
Also, in my experience, which is not to be taken as fact, it is more common (recently, anyway) for females to dress as male characters at US Conventions.  Nowadays many conventions are fairly evenly balanced in terms of male/female attendees, and since there's no particular social stigma for female to male crossplaying, it is widely done.
--JimboOmega 01:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unclear

message: There are many "crossplayers" in the comic of Kochikame.
For instance, 聖羅 無々 is a "crossplayer" of Sailor Moon
I've also heard another intresting character named 伝嬢 雨亭裸. I am not sure, but he sounds to be a male, and he is a crossplayer of Utena Tenjou.
AirBa 10:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: In Kochikame

message: opposite gender not opposite sex. I am making that correction. Gender is the social construct of the dicodemy of what we think of as masculinity and feminity. sex refers to the genetic reproductive role. Fictional charactors only have gender thus the correction. 69.171.135.10 04:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fictional characters literally have neither. They are generally portrayed as having both. --Random832 22:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender not sex 

message: I find it more than a bit insulting to see Man-Faye as being the single (and quite predominant) image provided for this article.
I think it would be both fairer and more accurate to show both sides of crossplay: the "joke" variety (such as Man-Faye), and the "masquerade" variety (such as Anja, the German crossplayer listed in the external links).
On an unrelated note, I'm going to add a new link to the External Links section: a very detailed article about crossplay that was recently published on TokyoPop's website.
WikiZipo 07:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Man-Faye? 

message: While I agree that there is a lot less information readily available for MtF crossplays, and that there is more of a social stigma attached to it, I think that the article is leaning too heavily towards being more of an MtF article.
Might have something to do with being written by an MtF crossplayer?
Also, should techniques be added? I'm debating.
Mukino 01:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Techniques; Too much emphasis on MtF 

message: I just found Man Fayes place in the Cosmos while working on an outline for this article. Please read the Gendefuck article in Wikipedia first to help understand this.
I used much from the GF definition and will list my changes and reasons.
Genderplay Crossplay is a costumed gender performance which plays with or parodys traditional gender roles and perceptions and issues.
Genderplay Crossplay is generally an intentional attempt to present a confusing gender identity which contributes to dismantling the perception of a gender binary.
I changed the term from Genderfuck to Genderplay Crossplay. Removeing the F___ word makes it more acceptable to the under 18 portion of the community which is a large portion of the community. It also makes it more acceptable to the people that don't require shock value in a word to understand a concept. The word “Play” actually describes what is going on and the F___ word does not describe anything specific. But mainly I think Genderplay Crossplay is a kinder and more accurate word for Man Faye as a person.
I also included the word parody in the definition because it happens.
I don't think the majority of the Crossplayers are purposly trying to dismantle or make statements about anything. We are just trying to be ourselves and have a fun time. I think this can be one part of our definition also.
--JTH01 17:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genderplay Crossplay and Man Faye 

message: There isn't any/much information in the article that these can be used to support at the moment, but I think that they can be useful in the future (feel free to shoot me down).
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=25277
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=90579
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=76543
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=91900
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=78915
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=83285
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=65895
Some of them are repeat threads, but might have some useful information if perused.
(Gah, forgot to sign this) - Mukino 22:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Potential citation sites

message: Using forums as a source is a bit dodgy. Rich Farmbrough, 23:16 9 February 2008 (GMT).
The challenge is that most of the crossplay phenomenon is undocumented except in photo format. The only site on the net to be dedicated solely to crossplay is www.crossplay.net, and most of its content is in the forums (and, of course, photo gallery). The same goes for cosplay.com, which has a rich deposit of crossplay resources but again stores all their FAQs and instructionals in their forums.
There is one significant article on a major website we have found that covers the subject (the TokyoPop article cited at the bottom), but if we just quoted that throughout the whole entry there'd be too little variation of sources.
WikiZipo (talk) 11:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Forums

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: page moved to Crossplay (cosplay).  Muhibm0307 (talk) 05:37, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Crossplay →  – As with the previous move discussion, there is WP:NOPRIMARY for the term in question, as it is at least equally likely for it to be used in a gaming context (referring to Cross-platform play) than a cosplaying one. The argument of WP:ONEOTHER used in the previous discussion does not apply, since the word has no primary topic. Crossplay should be made a disambiguation page. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

text: *Actually I'm going to make a clearer !vote: Support, but with the primary redirect going to Cross-platform play, which appears to dominate both usage and page views. But I also certainly do not oppose the proposed move, since once this page is not at the base name it will also be easier to confirm if the other is a primary. --Yaksar (let's chat) 01:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 August 2021