Talk:Cross Fell

message: Nice little article. I wikified a few technical geology and geography terms to make it more accessible. Nice work. Oh and it's so nice to see an article with an empty talk page! Pascal.Tesson 06:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA passed

message: Is the sketch map alligned correctly?  Little Dun Fell is broadly southeast of Cross Fell, but Great Dun Fell is south-southeast of Little Dun Fell.  The sketch map makes them look closer to east-southeast, and gives the impression (to me at any rate) of being a predominately east–west ridge rather than a predominately north–south ridge.  Also Cow Green is in the wrong place — it's shown as north of the ridge, in fact it's a little south of east.  I don't mind loosing some accuracy by using stylised sketch maps, but this one seems misleading. — ras52 09:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sketch Map

message: ras52. Your idea of a biblical flood with the sea level rising to a point where it is lapping around the top of Cross Fell is really great. Standing on top of the summit shelter (to keep your feet dry) there would be water on all sides - apart from 4 small islands being the tops of Helvellyn, Skiddaw, Scafell and Scafell Pike visible at a distance of around 25-50km. And as the waters fall, there would come a short-lived moment where CF and H would be connected as a single island while still just separate from Scafell island.
But do you realise that an 890m rise in sea level would require the volume of water in the oceans to increase by at least 35%? (my "back of envelope" calculation). I mean, it would require a lot more than the melting of the polar ice caps to achieve this result. I cannot even see a freak tsunami wave (caused by a meteorite strike) doing it. Bob BScar23625 14:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, but that doesn't matter.  The flood is just a way of conceptualising the idea of an encirclement (or island) parent.  The fact that such a flood is clearly impossible isn't important.  — ras52 16:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Biblical flood

message: This is the second time I have recitifed the private road status of GDF, as a NATS employee I think if anyone should have the final word on wether the public are permitted on driving up said road it should be me. In the future if you wish to change this area please contact me in advance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andehtw (talk • contribs) 21:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven't provided a source, so your changed version is no more verifiable than the previous version.  And why did you remove the sentence about the ridge to Cross Fell?  I have reinstated the paragraph about the ridge, and modified the wording of road status to make it more neutral and to conform to what I can find a proper citation for.  (Specifically, the Nuttalls say "It used to be possible to drive much further up [the private road], but this is now discouraged".)  — ras52 (talk) 10:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDF Private Road 

message: The mention of GDF in the introduction; is it really necessary there? It's an unrelated fell.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.26.219 (talk) 16:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDF Reference 

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==Routes to Cross Fell summit==
left|thumb|Sketch map of the approaches to Cross Fell
Cross Fell is crossed by the Pennine Way footpath en route from Dufton to Alston. Thus it may be climbed either from Dufton to the south east, or from Garrigill to the north west simply by following the Way. This section of the Way is well signposted and laid out. Some parts of the path are surfaced with stone slabs. The summit is about  from either village.
The easiest route to Cross Fell summit (around 4 miles each way) is via a road from the village of Knock. This is a well graded, tarmac road which provides car access to the radar installation on Great Dun Fell and a quarry nearby. Great Dun Fell is the highest point in the British road system. The road is however private and attempting to drive up it is prohibited.Picture showing private road sign to Great Dun Fell
It is a relatively easy walk from this point along the summit ridge to Cross Fell. However, there is a very boggy area separating Little Dun Fell and Cross Fell, and the correct route between the two is marked by a tall cairn situated at the edge of Cross Fell and several hundred metres back from the ridge.
right|thumb|280px|on the north side of Cross Fell, May 2006
An interesting route to the summit is from the village of Kirkland. The walker can park his/her car by the side of the road going north out of the village and follow a track going past a group of holiday cottagesKirkland Hall cottages :advertisement and rising up to some ancient mine workings. A track leads from that point towards the west flank of Cross Fell. A direct approach to the summit from the west involves climbing a difficult scree slope, so an easier way is to follow the track (not well defined over its whole length) around to the north side of the fell, where it meets the Pennine Way at a cairn. One may then follow the Way up a gentle slope to the summit. This route offers fine views (up to  on a clear day) over both the Solway to the north and the Eden Valley to the south. In fair conditions, the walk from Kirkland to the summit takes between two and three hours.Walking Britain (OS) :route guide and photographs
An ascent of Cross Fell in anything but perfect weather conditions can become challenging. None of the available routes offers a well defined path all the way to the summit. To the north of the ridge lies an extensive area of featureless bog and moorland, without obvious contours. The immediate area around Cross Fell is prone to hill fog and low cloud. Above , visibility can suddenly drop to almost nothing. It is easy to become disoriented and lost.
The scree slopes on the edges of Cross Fell can be treacherous in conditions of snow or ice. The large boulders are not securely seated and move readily when a walker tries to cross them. It is easy to fall and break a limb. This particular line of approach to the summit is best avoided unless conditions are clear and dry.
Increasing numbers of walkers have come into the area since the Pennine Way opened in the 1960s and as car ownership has become more widespread. After a number of fatalities among walkers in the locality, a mountain rescue team was established at nearby Penrith in 1959. This team is called out to rescue lost, missing, or injured walkers in the Cross Fell area, on average about once every two weeks.Penrith Mountain rescue :callouts log
That said, Cross Fell has much to offer the visitor. A climb to the summit is safe and easy so long as proper precautions are taken. The walker should be adequately dressed and equipped with map and compass. Most of the locality is within range of mobile phones.''
See WP:ISNOT - this is mostly guidebook material, not encyclopedic - any relevant content could be readded.
Similar comments apply to the use of the page as a photo gallery for interesting views - any images need to contribute to encylopedic content - ie give a good description of something being described in the text. Of course there is always a place for picture gallerys, but they too should show something of note. Sf5xeplus (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Guidebook

message: Is there a good reason for the redirect from Long Man Hill to Cross Fell?  This article doesn't mention Long Man Hill - is it an alternative name?  Is it part of Cross Fell?  Or what? --GuillaumeTell 17:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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