Talk:List of Stargate SG-1 episodes/Archive 2

message: * This episode, despite the claims of some fans, does not include inconsistencies with laws of wormhole physics established in later episodes: While it is true that the velocity of objects travelling through the Gate is not maintained between origin and destination Gates (when SG-1 and SG-2 first arrive on Chulak, we see several members tumble through the event horizon, when they had simply walked through the other side) and Gate travel is reported to be painful and distressing, this is true of Gate travel from Earth at this particular time. The "rough ride" and frost effect of wormhole travel is an after-effect of several thousand years of stellar drift, the addresses dialed by the Earth Stargate no longer being precisely accurate, and the result is the unpleasant travel. (As an analogy, imagine that you're driving to a friend's house with the roads changed slightly since your last visit; if you follow the same route, you're going to end up driving on the bare ground instead of the pavement.) However, this is corrected in later episodes (accompanied by in-show explanations from the various scientists) by calculating the current correct positions of other Gates and adjusting the dialing appropriately.
* When Carter sees the DHD for the first time, she comments on how it took years to "MacGyver" a way to dial the Stargate on Earth. As she says this, you can see O'Neill smirk behind her (He is played by actor Richard Dean Anderson, former star of MacGyver). It is said that Amanda Tapping ad-libbed the line during her audition and that it was what solidified her position.
* The episode's original airing on Showtime featured one scene of brief full frontal nudity. Many fans were critical of this as were parent groups, due to the misconception that science fiction is only "for kids." This has never been repeated and future airings would have the nudity cut out for syndication. The DVD version, however, retains this scene.
::Here is another one from the pilot episode (i pulled these three from the entire notes section). The first one talks of a misconception of inconsistency. If there was a misconception then that needs to be cited, and shown where it was thought to be an inconsistency, but was proven false. If it is proven false then that needs to be cited as well, because a fan's explaination is not a verifiable source. If Amanda Tapping really did ad-lib that line and it got her the job then that needs to be cited. The same goes for the "fans being critical of this as were parent groups, due to the misconcetption that science fiction is only 'for kids'". It needs to be proven that that was the reason why the scene was removed and later put back. Just listing some external links at the bottom is not citing a source. Bignole 14:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: :It is proposed that the above rationale be changed to the below summary/rationale as the former sounds like a legal contract (You should only sign something you own)
::Actually, the user who uploads an image is the one who is legally responsible (not Wikipedia).  In other words, if someone wanted to sue someone for a copyright volition with their images, they could sue the user who uploaded those images, directly. -- Ned Scott 21:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you looked at 1/2 (or more) of the uploads? Notice that the uploader generlly isnt the one rationalising! Also the former speaks as if it means everybody "we", This should be avoided. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 22:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Furthermore the former baltently states it will not, you can not be sure of this thus.. believed is stronger. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 22:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal

message: I made some edits that were reverted by Xornok.  His reply to the changes didn't seem to make sense to me so I figured I'd post.  The reply was "the "?" means we dont know for sure when the episode will air and the last box is not needed seeing as how there is no information at all..."  My reply to the "?" is that the box that states "Original Airdate" is the box listing when the episode will air - we list this as "TBA".  The field in question is the episode number and not the airtime.  Why would anyone think that a ? next to the episode number would mean an unknown airtime when thier is a field for the airtime that says "TBA"?  The "?" says to me that your not sure of the episode number, which makes no sense as they are incremental.  The second part of the revert was in regard to episode 1020.  Since there is no information on it, your statement is that we shouldn't include it.  I disagree with this though.  There are 20 episodes, so we should show their being 20 episodes.  The fact that we don't know the name of it or the summary should not prevent us from listing the episode.  1019 is not the last episode for the season but this is how our list appears to me.  Anyway, not a real big deal and probably not worth a post, but I thought I should question this revert. Morphh 17:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ?

message: I'm watching the thinpack DVD boxset of Season 2, and episode 15 per the order on the DVDs and packaging is "A Matter of Time," followed by episode 16 "The Fifth Race." This contradicts the information given here and in the respective articles. What's the deal? —pfahlstrom 05:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 2 episodes 15/16 order question 

message: A FANatic like me would love to see a few more (competent) in-joke related comments on the episodes.  I don't see the phrase "piece of cake" anywhere, but as I binge through the series here (while most US Television is on hiatus), I notice multiple occurences to dessert, cake especially.  In Season 1, stepping through the stargate was at one point a piece of cake.  When Dr. Weir went through the gate, it was a piece of cake.  When Jack had to use the X302 hyperdrive to get the American gate away from Earth and they had to keep the craft light, he "shouldn't have had that cake."  When our two heroes from the Season 6 episode "The Other Guys" (608) need to take down the shields on the mothership and ring to the surface, it's a piece of cake.  The seriousness of my comment ends here.  Now begins the "stretching it" portion.  Food, actually, is often a source of humor.  The craft services table in Wormhole X-Treme!  Teal'c has a fondness for donuts throughout Seasons 7 and 8.  Harcesis eating fruit loops during his encounter with Jackson.  Season 4's Window of Opportunity episode page even mentions Jack eating fruit loops.  Writers put these sorts of things in their scripts in the hope that people will find them, and I think the community would be doing them a service by exploiting them here for all to see.  Just a suggestion. Tarkaan 01:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In-Jokes 

message: Why does Sky One get to show the rest of season 10 first. does this mean the first showing the series finale will be shown in the UK (and Ireland) before America--Irishboi 01:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they will get the series finale first.  MGM has no (or little) control over when stations air SG-1 and Atlantis - the Sci-Fi Channel has elected not to finish either one until March in the US.  THe Movie Network in Canada began airing Atlantis's back half in early November, but the SG-1 affiliate will not show the back half until April.  Sky One is airing the second half of the SG-1 and Atlantis seasons now. — BrotherFlounder 02:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scheduling

message: In the spirit of Sci-Fandom, I am including references to food in the Notes section of each relevant episode.  I believe this to be a running gag in the series.  I'm adding it under the notes section of each episode's page.Tarkaan 01:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And MatthewFenton does not believe that this is useful information, so I am unable to edit articles without his reverts.  For what it's worth, the Season 7 episode "Chimera" has yet another reference to Teal'c eating donuts while posing as a Tau'ri, there are at least two others I remember (specifically Teal'c, specifically donuts).  I guess WikiProject Stargate has enough editors, so I'll leave you guys to it.  Tarkaan 03:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds too trivial to include. -- Ned Scott 04:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny, though. Had not noticed that before. :) -- Ned Scott 04:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I thought it was funny too, and you don't get it unless you watch nothing but stargate back to back for a couple of weeks.  I just thought, wrongly I know now, that even while the tone of the articles is meant to be encyclopedic in nature, the information contained really can be shaped to a target audience.  Your average sci-fi fan is not going to care that Teal'c eats donuts in 7x15 or Jack eats fruit loops in 4x06 (an OBVIOUS gag..time loops anyone?) but your average sci-fi fan isn't going to be reading entire episode summaries of reruns of a now cancelled basic cable show.  A die-hard fan like me might, and a die-hard fan like me might look at those little snips of information and chuckle, just a little bit, and smack his forehead just a little bit harder for not having noticed it on the first go.  Teal'c slamming an entire pot of steaming hot coffee, the food choices in that wierd episode with the Tok'ra arm bands (what was that?) or Sam ending conversations with Jonas by saying, "Lunch?"   ...  Teal'c behind the craft services table at Wormhole X-Treme (Jack: Where are all the donuts?).  Writers actually sit around in writers rooms thinking this stuff up, and they like it when their little additions make it into the episode.  It's funny.  Trust me, I've been there.  They all meant to do it.  But anyhow, it's not encyclopedic content, so revert away...  Tarkaan 06:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Stargate Wiki thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 08:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess in a medium where space for knowledge is essentially unlimited, people can still find a way to limit the knowledge presented.  Thanks also for being so dismissive in your one-link comment.  Editors like you really show what's behind the information contained on these pages.  Fine work.  Love, Tarkaan 16:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S.  In 7x21, Jack has the repository of the ancients downloaded into his brain yet again, and spends his time recovering from and anticipating the incident at home.  Sam, Teal'c, and Dr. Jackson stop by.  Teal'c brings..........donuts.Tarkaan 02:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Way too trivial.. Illyria05 (Talk • Contributions) 14:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References to Food

message: Starting from episode "The Quest (Part 2)" down, the release dates are wrong, atleast for the United States airings. The new episodes don't start until Mar 2007 (according to SciFi's website). The dates where origionally planned for then, but changed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.123.120.2 (talk) 02:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The airdates are for the world premiere dates, which for the back half of SG-1 S10 are the British airdates. — BrotherFlounder 03:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air dates are wrong 

message: I would just like to point out that original airdates may vary from country to country.  So, I guess we could either go through the trouble of comparing the original airdates for all countries and listing the earliest one (too much trouble), or indicate in some way which country's original airdates we are using.  Thanks!  —  ArmedBlowfish (talk|mail) 02:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Original is the first airdate, i.e. the first place it was shown, not the first American airdate. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay.  —  ArmedBlowfish (talk|mail) 02:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As of my last edit to the list of eps page, all Stargate SG-1 episodes are the original airdates... Illyria05 (Talk • Contributions) 03:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original airdates 

message: I'm totally new to Wikipedia, so please excuse any mistakes on my part;  for example, I hope I'm posting this comment in the correct place!  
I've noticed that several SG-1 episode synopses in Wikipedia are lifted nearly word-for-word from the official episode synopses available at SciFi Channel's official site.  This extensive borrowed material is not clearly cited or quoted (even with a link in the "External links" section of each episode's page);  I suspect that this constitutes plagiarism and is in violation of copyright.  
The three synopses I've found that I believe borrow too heavily from SciFi's site are all in Season 9:  "The Powers That Be" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis), "Beachhead" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis), and "Ex Deus Machina" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis).
I've noticed a similar problem with a few Atlantis synopses;  I'll post those details on the Atlantis episode list page.  I hope someone with more Wikipedia experience than I have can take some action to solve this.  Thanks! Kiramin 18:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you see any just blank the plot with a summary like "removing copyvio from «source»", or if you wish, list as a copyvio. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violations in episode synopses?