Talk:Graham Poll

message: the article states "Poll took up the whistle in 1900"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.206.173.102 (talk) 13:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: help I think there was vandalism on this page

message: I am removing the NPOV tag until someone actually talks about it. The point of the tag is not to place and walk away. You must discuss it when you put it on, and participate in the improvement of the article. Ansell 23:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Patience, I am writing.. --Denoir 23:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is a good cite. Slac speak up! 23:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV tag

message: Under 3 Red Cards in a game it lists a match with Sunderton, while under trivia it says he has never officiated for Sunderton.  Since I don't really follow the Premiership, I'm not informed enough to fix it, although if someone could take a look at it that would be appreciated.--128.205.153.176 17:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It only says he didn't ref them in 2006 season. The red cards were in the 2001 season, no inconsistency there. Ansell 08:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the team (and city they play in) is Sunderland, not Sunderton.... 12:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistency

message: Have re-added the pieces removed incorrectly by Ytny concerning Graham's retirement from Tournament football.
The statements were sourced from the link already in that part of the article.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1809120,00.html
Graham Poll has announced his retirement from refereeing at international tournaments, following his disastrous performance in Australia's 2-2 draw with Croatia.
"I've had three major championships, Euro 2000, World Cup 2002 and World Cup 2006 and not one has gone right for me for various reasons. I have discussed this with the FA already. It's time for somebody else in England to have a go and I will do everything I can to prepare them. But for me tournament football is over."''
He will continue to referee in the Champions League, UEFA Cup and on International Friendly and Qualification matches.
The only way he can retire from International Football full stop is if FIFA remove him from the FIFA List in December this year.
How do I know?  I'm a referee myself who has contact with the guys on the Premiership and FIFA -- WCR 01:05 GMT - 02/07/06
:I made the edit because"as he feels he's had his chance." at the end of the sentence wasn't clear to me and didn't realize which quote it referred to - so I apologize for saying it was unsourced. Though I still think it's a bit unclear and a direct quote would work better than writing what he "feels". 
:And point taken on retirement from international football vs international tournaments. Ytny 02:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Retirement from International Tournament Football

message: This article is not a Good Article. It has no images, and the World Cup 2002 and Statistics sections have no references.Some P. Erson 20:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA

message: I made a couple of edits today as they seemed to have been written by biased fan or a referee hater with little idea of the correct terms used in football.Statto74 14:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Referee bashing

message: Hi. An editor has recently replaced the (*) asterisks in a sentence of expletives (namely, "f***ing sh*t") with the actual letters, therefore exposing the offensive words. I have reverted this, as I believe a United Kingdom article does not need to entertain gratuitous bad language - English speaking persons will know what the words are. The editor may revert my revert, so you may need to reach consensus on the issue before 3RV is reached. Thanks. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 23:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need a consensus on this, as Wikipedia policy is pretty clear on this: WP:NOT#CENSORED. 01:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice broad sweeping statement. However, can I dig a little deeper and bring your attention to Wikipedia:Profanity, which is referenced by WP:NOT#CENSORED, to illustrate my point about interpretation of English profanity in a United Kingdom article, quoting "Words and images that would be considered offensive, profane, or obscene by typical Wikipedia readers should be used if and only if their omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternatives are available." I would suggest that the abbreviations you just removed would count as suitable alternatives. I have no intention of reverting further, just letting you know where I am coming from, and that it's always best to go a bit further into policy to find even more relevant guidelines. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 08:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I should've been clearer. If the choice is between "fucking shite" and "f****** s***", then there is no need for debate, because you always go with the former. Which isn't to say there aren't other options, but the way you framed the discussion, stating that your intent was to avoid "exposing the offensive words", you presented it as a simple choice between the full profanity and the asterisks. In which case, again, there is no need for consensus.  Ytny (talk) 16:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

text: And if you get yet further (not much further, actually) you find that Wikipedia:Profanity continues "In original Wikipedia content, a profanity should either appear in its full form or not at all; words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters in the word with dashes, asterisks, or other symbols." An exception can be made if the bowdlerised version is in a direct quotation. Ewen 09:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Consensus on abbreviated expletives or full use of the words in the article.

message: Hi. I was most surprised to find that, when it came to adding a reference for the result of the last ever game he refereed, it appears that the powers-that-be replaced him with Mike Riley of England. I have amended the article to reflect this. His final match, therefore, was actually the Championship play-off decider between Derby County and West Brom. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 00:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Finland v. Belgium, Euro 2008 qualifying, 6 June 2007

message: Hi. Currently being reverted is an attempt (or two actually) to name Poll's wife and children in the article. Myself and another editor have already rolled this back once each. My reasons are that the extra information is not relevant to proving his notability on the football field, but mainly that naming minors increases their vulnerability. The first part is to do with encyclopedic value, but the second is purely compassionate. Since editing Wikipedia articles, I have always reverted the naming of children under 16, and other information such as their home locations or their schools, for the reasons given.
I am highlighting this on the talk page given the limited space in edit summaries to fully explain why a revert took place. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 14:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of sensitive information

message: I am trying to make changes to the Arsenal Sheffield United section, but it seems to merge it with thw world cup 2006 section and some data is lost.  What's happening? Any ideas? (Namzie11 (talk) 07:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Replied on your talk page. Ref (chew)(do) 19:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Arsenal Sheffield United

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
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thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

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