Talk:Ivan Rebroff

message: Ivan Rebroff died yesterday. http://www.welt.de/kultur/article1736112/Saenger_Ivan_Rebroff_ist_tot.html
--87.78.163.252 (talk) 15:21, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Singer died 27.02.2008 

message: The article says "was a German singer of Russian ancestry" - where does the "Russian ancestry" come from? I find it neither in his official biography at http://www.ivan-rebroff.de/ nor in the German Wikipedia nor anywhere else I look. As far as I know, he was a German who decided to focus on Russian folk songs and took a Russian pseudonym, but I have never read that there was any real family connection to Russia. Gestumblindi (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From the German Wikipedia article on Rebroff: "als Sohn eines hessischen Ingenieurs und einer Russin geboren" --217.232.202.215 (talk) 08:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This (German) news article casts doubt on his mother being a Russian, but seems to confirm that his father was of such ancestry. --217.232.202.215 (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The "Sohn ... einer Russin" wasn't in the German Wikipedia when I posted my question here. It is unsourced and was now changed to "einer angeblichen Russin" anyway ("an alleged Russian woman"). The FAZ article doesn't confirm Russian ancestry; it says: "Um seine Herkunft und um die Familie ranken sich Legenden. Die Mutter war angeblich Russin, der Vater ein hessischer Ingenieur mit russischen Vorfahren." ("Legends surround his ancestry and family. The mother was allegedly Russian, the father a Hessian engineer with Russian ancestors.") As it is phrased, the father's "Russian ancestors" could be seen as part of the "legends". I will anyway rephrase this part of the article introduction to "allegedly of Russian ancestry" since it isn't clear, I think. Gestumblindi (talk) 15:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Note, I did not add that information to the article, merely moved it from a stylistically bad paragraph up to the lead. The article was completely unreferenced, but since that statement didn't seem like it violated WP:BLP, i didn't unilaterally remove it, unlike the statement the article contained about him being born 2 months premature on a railway, or something to that effect. --Storkk (talk) 09:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian ancestry? 

message: **He performed over 6,000 concerts in his career, including a two-year seven-day-a-week stint at the French opera, singing, among other greats, Fiddler on the Roof.
What does that even mean??? WHAT "French Opera"??  Fiddler on the Roof at the Paris Opéra? What? 208.87.248.162 (talk) 19:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it was first at the Théâtre Marigny, in November 1969 (). 82.234.153.213 (talk) 06:24, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: At the "French Opera"??

message: Hi there,
this article currently states that Mr. Rebroff became a citizen of greece. In my opinion this claim is somewhat problematic, because neither the corresponding German wikipedia article nor Rebroff's official biography confirm this -- the only information according to these sources is, that he was awarded the *honorary citizenship* of Skopelos, the greek island where he had a domicile. Günter Schenk Wuppertal (talk) 11:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizen of Greece ? 

message: Just found some more information about the Australian tour which Rebroff did in 2004. The "Sydney Morning Herald" website has an article (https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/a-slave-of-the-audience-finds-freedom-within-20040303-gdigos.html) that provides specific information such as the number of concerts (13) and the duration of this tour (3 weeks). Based on this information I'm going to update the WP article accordingly. Günter Schenk Wuppertal (talk) 10:51, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life and career: the "Rebroff still performed 12 shows in 14 days..." claim