Talk:Crimean Tatar language

message: These statements are not true!
In 1992/93 Crimean Tatar was made the third official language of the peninsula, as by then its speakers made up 10% of the population.
Since 2002 the Crimean Tatars have been writing with a new Turkish alphabet, that was jointly developed from Turkish and Crimean Tatar students at the University of Istanbul for the Crimean Tatar language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.175.197.58 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 3 December 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Fix it then.  I know absolutely nothing about any Tartar languages.  Laura Scudder 19:18, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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message: The infobox says it's the official language of Crimea. But the article Crimea says it is not. --Menchi 08:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Corrected 195.175.37.70 01:23, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Language 

message: This article states first: Yalıboylus who lived on the southern coast of Crimea before 1944 speak an Oghuz dialect very close to Turkish and then In 1876 different Turkish Crimean dialects were made into a uniform written language by İsmail Gaspıralı. A preference was given to the Oghuz dialect of Yalıboylus in order to break the link between the Crimeans and the Turks of the Ottoman Empire. If the Yalıboylus dialect is 'very close' (i.e. the closest) to Turkish, how could the choice for this dialect break the link with Ottoman Turkish? Either the former is not true, or the latter. Fransvannes 11:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Link with Ottoman Turkish

message: The article İQTElif seems like original research. I tried contacting its main editor, User:Ultranet, but he didn't reply.
I'm thinking of proposing it for deletion, because i couldn't find any actual use for this orthography - most supporters of Latin Tatar seem to use Zamanalif (please, correct me if i'm wrong!). However that article does seem to have some useful linguistic information. Can anyone extract the useful information from it? I am not an expert in Turkic languages.
Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni 07:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  İQTElif 

message: I don't think so. The Finnish Tatar community are Kazan Tatars, speaking the Mishär dialect. 195.16.202.19 10:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crimean Tatar in Finland??? 

message: Is there an "official" script for Crimean Tatar?
On the internet i mostly see Latin script on Crimean Tatar websites. But i also saw signs on government buildings in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea are in three languages - Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar, and they were all Cyrillic. So that is a bit of "official" recognition.
And then there's that all-Ukrainian law that says that no language is official except Ukrainian.
Can anyone please clarify the situation? --Amir E. Aharoni 16:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Crimean Tatar Qurultay (a kind of an ethnic parliament) adopted new Latin script in 1991, then it was officialy adopted by the Supreme Council (Verkhovna Rada) of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in 1997. So de jure Latin script can be considrered official. But in practice (due to the lack of the governmental support) Cyrillic script is still used much more wider. Approximately 80% of books in Crimean Tatar and both major Crimean Tatar newspapers are published in Cyrillic, children in secondary schools are also taught in Cyrillic. So, officially new alfabet was adopted, but no real measures were taken to realize the change of the script in practice. BTW, Crimean Tatar language today has no official status and no official regulation body. So, it is not clear, who has now right to determine what is official, and what is not. Don Alessandro 08:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. Can you put this information into the article with sources? --Amir E. Aharoni 11:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there an "official" script? 

message: *Steppe-based Nogay dialect = Kypchak–Nogay
*Mountainous Tat dialect = Kypchak–Cuman (but also influenced by Oghuz for historical reasons)
*Southern coastal-based Yalıboylus = Oghuz
Its sounds like the Crimean Tatar language is a group of dialects of different origins. --Komitsuki (talk) 09:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crimean Tatar language as a group of dialects 

message: From this page:
" It should not be confused with Tatar proper, spoken in Tatarstan and adjacent regions in Russia; the languages are related but not mutually intelligible. "
From "Tatar language":
"It should not be confused with the Crimean Tatar language, to which it is closely related and with which it is mutually intelligible."
So which is it? Mutually intelligible or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.174.103 (talk) 05:02, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not. They have been isolated for more than a century. Erkinalp9035 (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction on Mutual Intelligibility 

message: This article is not the place to dispute the current political entities adn claims on Crimea. THe info box information is sourced and should not be deleted for POV reasons. 37.245.43.164 (talk) 12:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop deny and try to legalize Russian military aggression and occupation, even if Ukrainian or/and Crimean language(s) nominally listed as official in documents of occupational administrations and if we even list it in infobox those administrations they should be marked as they are. Stop playing along with Russian officialdom and start call things by their proper names - war is war, military aggression is military aggression, illegal seizing of territories by this is military occupation. UA0Volodymyr (talk) 13:21, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's NPOV. We had always de facto administrative divisions on wikipedia. This is not the United Nations. Beshogur (talk) 15:44, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Status