Talk:Species (film)

message: In his review, Roger Ebert wonders why seemingly sophisticated aliens capable of travelling between stars and sending messages across space turn out to be "(d)isgusting, slimy morph-creatures with rows of evil teeth, whose greatest cultural achievement is jumping out at people from behind things..."
I removed this from the article on Species II as it pertains to the first film. Maybe if the article is expanded to review criticisms, this can be slipped in here. --Bacteria 00:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: That said, it must be admitted that a large part of most Science Fiction bears a great deal of similarity to those two series, which were in their way, ground breaking. 
This phrase is an opinion, not fact, using weasel words. By attributing most of science fiction (!) to these series the author hopes to legitimize the connection between them and Species. Modern science fiction predates these series by two centuries. There were other novels, films and television series from which all three of these series borrowed. The idea of Species is a take on Alraune, a novel from the early 20th century that was made into several films between 1918 - 1952. And the idea of Alraune was culled from ancient religions, myths and medieval European literature sources surrounding the mandrake plant Mandrake (plant). 76.241.119.16 (talk) 23:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Stylistic Similarities - Basis?

message: "The area where Sil and her offspring are destroyed."
Since I'm not a native speaker, I'm not certain whether there is only an is missing in this sentence. --Hodsha (talk) 21:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Sil and her offspring" is a compound that can behave as a plural, just like "the police are looking for..."88.111.238.94 (talk) 08:32, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: "the initial Species script would suggest a love triangle between Sil, Press and Lennox"
Press is Preston Lennox' nickname so any triangle must include another character. --Hodsha (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing and development 

message: Should the nudity exhibited by Natasha Henstridge be reported somewhere in this article? I have access to this movie's collector's edition Blu-ray and Henstridge stresses how the press as well as audience "made such a big deal" out of her being stark naked. She also adds that some people recognize her for starring in the film, not in other films she has starred in. The other commentary track by the crew members also discusses, among others, Henstridge's nudity as well as her sex scenes. Slightlymad 04:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the reviews cataloged here mention the nudity, but I don't remember if it was a huge deal back then or not.  Does the commentary track say anything interesting?  Blue is the Warmest Colour has some discussion of its graphic sex, which really caused a stir.  As a fairly mainstream exploitation film, I don't know if Species ever really got the same kind of attention.  Maybe there are career retrospectives out there that discuss this stuff, like how the frequent nudity may have helped or harmed Henstridge's career. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:31, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: These reliable sources by Den of Geek!—this and this—revisit the film but neither discusses the nudity. In regards to the commentary, otoh, I was able to listen to the ones headlined by Henstridge, Michael Madsen, and Roger Donaldson (director) in full; its rather dry, but there a couple of bits that could be added later in the article, such as the casting of Michelle Williams, shooting locations, and some anecdotes by Henstridge and Madsen. I think readers would be expecting us to cover the nudity (no pun intended) in the article because, more or less, it has been remembered for Henstridge's unfazed nudity. Slightlymad 06:30, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunately, sources likely to discuss the nudity are probably listicles and other clickbait.  If I have to, I use them.  One possibility for a better source, though, is to look for comparisons to Lifeforce, which did the whole "naked space alien who kills men" thing ten years earlier, something mentioned in reviews.  It's the sort of topic that would merit a retrospective look in a film journal today, though academics wouldn't have been caught dead talking about Lifeforce or Species back then. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The nudity