Talk:English poetry

message: I saw the post below regarding Ann Bradstreet's inclusion. My vote for an inclusion would be A.E. Housman. I know he is hard to classify (late Victorian or Edwardian), but someone like Hart Crane is mentioned. This is just a suggestion. I know the article cannot list every poet of the English language, but Housman's works are much alluded too and anthologized. Thank you. 18:30, 18 Nov 2012 (EST)   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.235.68 (talk)  
::Agreed, and he is also missing from other literature articles. I'd suggest a brief mention in the Victorian period but a longer comment for the 20th century. Rwood128 (talk) 12:47, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Prose

message: What is the position of Englsih poetry in contemporary times ? What does the reader who reads poetry expects to read ? If we see poetry in New Yorker etc we see it is not something that would appeal to the taste of Shelley, Byron or Tennyson would they be living today ? Why it is that no one writes like they did, or even like Eliot did write ? Is it so that even if today someone could write like Shelley did, no one would read it - the people having grown up too much for the kind of taste they had a hundred years ago ?  Jon Ascton  (talk) 08:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is English Poetry Now ? 

message: The Poetry Resource link is broken.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.239.248 (talk) 18:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: At the beginning this seems to be an article mainly about poets from England but later Welsh and Scottish poets are included. Does the opening preamble need to be changed to indicate that this article is about the poetry of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland before 1922? The article could on the other hand be expanded to include all poets who have written in English? Rwood128 (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: At the very least the preamble needs rewriting but the title should also be amended. Rwood128 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

text: * I see your point, and in theory agree with you, but the logistics of rescoping the article or renaming it is quite a sticky wicket and make the implementation of the changes something I wouldn't fuck with a stolen penis touch with a ten-foot pole.--ColonelHenry (talk) 02:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This article focuses on British poetry, that is poetry written in English by poets from the United Kingdom: England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (and Ireland before 1922). However, though the whole of Ireland was politically part of the United Kingdom between January 1801 and December 1922, it is controversial to describe Irish literature as British. For some this includes works by authors from Northern Ireland. The article does not include poetry in English from other countries where poetry in the English language is written. The earliest surviving English poetry, written in Anglo-Saxon, the direct predecessor of modern English, may have been composed as early as the 7th century.
Rwood128 (talk) 12:07, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  England or Britain? 

message: Is there a reason no mention has been made of John Barbour (14th Century Scottish poet)? He was slightly earlier than Chaucer, and arguably a bigger influence than Chaucer on Dunbar et al. Also the divisions are largely based on English courts – but if Scottish poetry is being included as well, then the Golden Age of Scottish poetry (during which Scots produced some of the best poetry in the entire island) needs to be given its own sections with reign title(s) as it was court poetry. Also, perhaps a brief note about the political upheaval in Scotland (Mary Stuart in exile followed by the union of the crowns followed by the reformation) put a halt to Scottish court poetry right at a time when court poetry in much of Europe (including England) was reaching its zenith. Perhaps also a note about how much notable poetry might have been lost (certainly a lot from the Scottish court and Scotland in general; England's court was better at keeping records and preserving manuscripts, but still some of their great writers may have vanished from history). - R160K (talk) 05:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Barbour 

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message: The article is needs citations in many places. Rwood128 (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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