Talk:Merkin

message: --CopyToWiktionaryBot 06:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: This article mentions "In current times have become popular in Japan as "night flowers".  There is no citation for this, and I can't find a single Japanese source backing it up. Most of the English sources seem to cite information that I wouldn't call "current", one such site claiming that they sell more during bridal months, when the average age of first marriage in Japan is 27 for women.  Another source claims Komachi Hair Company makes them, but their Japanese site has no mention of them at all.  Shouldn't this be either backed up or removed?  Or at least re-phrased to not say "popular" which is misleading at best?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.182.170.180 (talk) 18:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Night Flower?

message: Using Google, I've found a few references to "Merkin" as a slang term for an American:
"Then "merkin" was coined afresh to mean "an American", because it
sounds a bit like the half-swallowed pronunciation of "American" by
some Americans, particularly President Lyndon Johnson; and the fact
that it had a "naughty" meaning didn't hurt.  Punning use of the
word dates back to at least the early 1960s."
References in popular culture include the name of the American President in Dr. Strangelove.
Some more links:
*Random House Word of the Day
*World Wide Words (a British perspective)
*Google Groups (if you actually read some of the discussions it becomes clear that many know and use the term in both meanings)
*The Straight Dope - an article the clearly references the "joke".
The term seems to have experienced the most popularity on Usenet, which would explain why some modern Internet users have never heard of it. Can I put it back in the article now? -Aranel ("Sarah") 22:01, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. That's why I added a copy of the key points from the OED on 28 Jan! Bluewave 08:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now archived Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 172#World Wide Words or Pratchett newsgroups FAQ
I came upon this article via the reliable sources noticeboard. I can confirm that the Oxford English Dictionary has an entry on Merkin as a reference to Americans, with the earliest recorded use in 1926. However, as it was stated there, and also at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections, there should not be trivia sections in articles. The entries in the section in the article are not in the scope of the article. If the subjects discussed have articles of their own, then they should be listed on the disambiguation page, not here. Because of this, I have removed the section, the contents of which are replicated below:
* The term can be used in an obscene sense to refer to the vulva.Murray, J. A. H., et al. (eds.) A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles: [1st] Supplement (1933) — Merkin
* The popular saltwater fly fishing lure, used primarily in targeting bonefish and permit, Del Brown's Merkin,Brown, D. (2008) Fly Fishing For Bonefish; pp. 246,340 is also named after the artificial hairpiece. The Merkin fly pattern represents a crab, referencing the merkin's historical use for pubic lice (also colloquially known as crabs). Further, Del's Merkin is tied with a disc of fuzzy yarn, imitating the crab's shell, but also reminiscent of the fly's namesake.The Merkin Crab by Dr. Ed Southwick
* In Stanley Kubrick's 1964 anti-war black comedy Dr. Strangelove, the President of the United States, played by Peter Sellers, is named Merkin Muffley.
--Joshua Issac (talk) 17:28, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

text: I could go either way. If it was an article about a word, the use of the word would be in scope, but it is not. Even so, these uses could be taken as trivia. Obviously, looking at the history of the article others have removed the slur use of the word before. People who think it should be here and people who do not are about equal. I take that as lack of consensus for inclusion. Obscure definitions should go on Wiktionary. Below is the last version for the slur use.
* Internet slang for inhabitant of the United States of America.
Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

text: *I support the removal of the trivia section completely. I'd already removed some very trivial uses that were mentioned. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some evidence on Merkin and American 

message: I've never seen one. Can anyone supply a photo? 202.142.214.49 20:22, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture please 

message: I've removed this line "others have claimed that merkins were worn for nude stage appearances." If someone wants to readd this, please cite it. --mako (talk•contribs) 16:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  stage appareances? 

message: Two quotes from the article:
"The first use of the word by an established author was in Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita (1955)."
"In William Shakespeare's A Winter's Tale, Merkins are often mentioned."
I'm reasonably sure that Shakespeare pre-deates the 1950's.  Can anyone confirm the Winters Tale reference, and then modify as appropriate?
:I've removed both of these dodgy facts. Nabokov certainly wasn't the first and I could not find a merkin in the winter's tale. The only reference to merkin in shakespeare is "my Mistress wears his own hair" Hen V act 3 Sc 7 which according to Eric Partridge is supposed to mean merkin. meltBanana 22:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology 

message: A  vertical  aerodynamic fin  called the Merkin first saw its use in  Formula One  on the Williams FW22A (2000) (as named by Chief  Aerodynamicist  Geoff Willis), although this name was changed to the more common name of "Forward Guide Vane" after higher authorities found out its true meaning.
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thread_title:  Other [[ definition]]s 

message: *"A pubic wig for those of the female persuasion.Belinda, having undergone chemotherapy for the past couple months, resorted to wearing a merkin." http://uncletorture.blogspot.com/2006/01/do-youmerkin.html
*"Now, there are circumstances under which some people will go entirely bald down below; some lose body hair as they age, and others lose it because of illness or chemotherapy. In these cases, perhaps a merkin or a transplant isn't so nuttyóif you want hair there, then you should be able to have it. But we're inclined to counsel you to just go with the flow. Most of the population concerning itself with pubic primping is busy paring down the hair, not piling it on."  http://www.hotpinkbook.com/Welcome.htm
*"Schimmel jokes about losing pubic hair and being approached by a pubic wig salesman. He displays a slide show that takes the audience from the first day of chemotherapy all the way to 128 pounds, no eyebrows, no eyelashes ... and then coming back from that."  http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/article/2008-2-1-schimmel
k, thanx, looks like chemo types use merkins. Like I've heard said, a 60 year old doesn't look good bald down there. Ask D.N.A.- Peter Napkin (talk) 01:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any reliable sources?  Blogs aren't permissable, and that Schimmel quote is very vague. --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 08:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical/Chemotherapy Merkins 

message: When editing the popular culture section, someone entered (paraphrased here) that "Wikipedia does not need an exhaustive list of every mention of the merkin in popular culture!"  I find this to be a contradiction, as many many articles have just such lists - for things that are far more commonly mentioned on television and in books than something as obscure as the merkin.  Do others agree with this assessment, and that it is in fact okay for such a list of mentions in popular culture to be compiled?  Or do others agree that such a list does not fit with the guidelines of wikipedia?  Thanks.  Spiral5800 (talk) 23:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Just because other articles have it doesn't mean it belongs here. See WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. I'm not going to push the issue, but no, the list doesn't belong here. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture 

message: This is a difficult clothing item to imagine without actually seeing an image. And the design of a saltwater fishing fly which resembles it would appear to be entirely impossible without a photograph. So I'm tagging the talk page as needing images. Trilobitealive (talk) 02:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou, User:Adrignola. I apologise that I was not sufficiently familiar with the present article to have caught that. After looking up their brief but colorful edit history I have tagged User talk:168.103.122.171‎ with a level 1 warning regarding their habit of censoring articles.Trilobitealive (talk) 03:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagging article

message: Should also mention McCabe's wearing of a merkin in this movie, since her contract forbade any "nude" scenes.  (She played a naked woman being frozen to death, as one reviewer put it, "the most thankless role in any horror film", a "brave actress".)69.120.202.82 (talk) 08:16, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Debra Lynne McCabe in Saw III

message: ; Example !votes:
* Keep current wording of "pubic wig".
* Change to "a wig for the pudendum".
; Start survey:
* Keep current wording of "pubic wig". -- Brangifer (talk) 08:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

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message: The article should explain that they're glued on. Poveglia (talk) 09:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
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