Talk:John Bull (composer)

message: Hi. Where did you find the information that there is evidence that John Bull was sent on espionage missions by Queen Elizabeth I? I'm writing a paper about him, and I'd really like to cite that information from a published source. Thanks.
:Sorry, I dunno; however, I'm sure it's in one of the four sources cited at the end of the article, since it was added by User:Antandrus. I don't see anything about it in the online Grove, but it's possible it was in the 1980 edition. My best guess is the Reese, I'm not sure why. You could ask Antandrus and see if he remembers. Mak (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I did not add it.  It was added by user User:Yellow Lion on 5 September 2005 .  I have never read that Bull was involved in espionage.  Antandrus  (talk) 15:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a "citation needed" tag rather than taking it out, since this contributor was otherwise a good editor, and he may have a source we don't.  Antandrus  (talk) 16:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry, I must have misread the history. Mak (talk) 20:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem!  :-) Antandrus  (talk) 21:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Espionage

message: I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles.  This article is B-class; its principal defect is that it is missing a complete (known) works list.  My full review is on the comments page; questions or comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 21:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Composer project review

message: This magnificent portrait appears in both this John Bull article and also that of Thomas Morley. I can't discover its whereabouts. It's not in the National Portrait Gallery, London. Google Images have a lot of sites connecting it to Morley, but the inscription around its apparently contemporary frame definitely refers to Bull. Can anyone help with this conundrum? Nick Michael (talk)
:Picture accordingly removed from the Thomas Morley article by Antandrus. I'd still like to know where the original is... Nick Michael (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was once printed in colour in Grove's Dictionary (where this scan doubtless originates), and is to be found in the Bodleian Library, according to Morrison Comegys Boyd, Elizabethan Music and Music Criticism (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1940), p. 182.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Jerome. I've looked in the Bod but can't find it in the online catalogues. However a lot of googling seems to favour the Ashmolean - although I can't find it in their catalogues either. You would have thought it an important enough portrait to attract more notice... Nick Michael (talk) 21:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now in the library of the Faculty of Music at Oxford.  Painted 1589, artist unknown.  See Susi Jeans, "John Bull", current New Grove, section 4. Antandrus  (talk) 22:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait: John Bull or Thomas Morley? 

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