Talk:Hind bint Utba

message: This was the last version of "Hind al-Hunnud" before I turned it into a redirect. There was only redundant information to this article here; only one citation wasn't, that I transferred over. --Enyavar (talk) 14:53, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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message: I cannot find Hind's year of birth in the sources, but I tentatively suggest 581.
Her father, Utbah ibn Rabi'ah, was born in 563, so Hind cannot have been born much before 580.
Her son, Mu'awiyah, was born in 602; but she calls his brother Hanzala her "firstborn", suggesting that she married Abu Sufyan not later than 600. At this time she was old enough to have a son from her first marriage, and he was not a newborn, as she had had a second marriage in the interim.
Therefore the range of possible dates for Hind's birth seem to converge on the early 580s.Petra MacDonald (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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message: Do we know when she died? Currently, her death is reported to have taken place in 626, which is six years before she converted to Islam and ten years before she reportedly fought in the Battle of Yarmouk. Meanwhile, Wikidata lists her death as 636, for which there is also no source given. I'm going to delete both years. --Enyavar (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know the year of her death, but I do know that 626 and 636 are both wrong. Hind was still alive in the caliphate of Uthman (and, according to Sir William Muir, apparently refusing proposals of marriage!). I think she survived well into the 650s and perhaps even to the caliphate of her son Muawiyah after 661. Petra MacDonald (talk) 00:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
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