Talk:British princess

message: I believe it is incorrect to say that the "Victoria" in Queen Mary's name was not named after Queen Victoria.  Her mother Princess Mary Adalaide was a 1st Cousin of Queen Victoria and I have certainly read biographies stating that Princess Victoria Mary (later Queen Mary) was named in honour of Queen Victoria.  Sorry I cannot cite the sources.  I do however think that some Wikipedia articles may refer to this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.123.185.230 (talk) 17:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have made the comments on The Lady Louise Windsor consistent with what is on that page. Jongarrettuk 06:26, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Queen Mary

message: Someone changed "male-line grandchildren" to "grandchildren".  While it is true that some children of daughters of sovereigns have had the royal style, so far as I know it was a special concession in each case; e.g. when the present queen was married (1947) the then king expressly granted the title to her future children, because she was heiress presumptive.  (Charles and Anne, born 1948 and 1950, were beneficiaries of this.)  The children of Princesses Margaret, Anne and Mary (Countess of Harewood) are royal grandchildren but without royal styles.  —Tamfang 20:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  male line 

message: How would one classify Princess Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg (later Queen of Spain) who was granted the style of Royal Highness by King Edward VII on the eve of her  marriage to the King of Spain.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.59.205 (talk) 07:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She was not a Princess of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, which is I think normally what is meant by "British princess."  But then, the Fife princesses were not princess of the United Kingdom either, so far as I know.  If we include those, we should also mention Princess Helena Victoria and Princess Marie Louise, who dropped their Schleswig-Holstein titles in 1917 but were given the style of Highness and called "HH Princess Helena Victoria" and "HH Princess Marie Louise." john k (talk) 04:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  other 

message: Would a princess who married into a foreign royal family prior to 1917 have been affected by George V's dropping of German titles? For example, his sister Maud of Wales, was married in 1896 to Charles of Denmark, and then in 1905 became Queen of Norway. Would she have dropped the "Princess of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha" from her list of titles, even though she was by that time a member of another Royal Family? Prsgoddess187 09:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: She would have ceased to use them on her marriage, having dropped them like women often drop their maiden surname on marriage.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 23:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, she wouldn't have: British princesses who marry remain British princesses. But the proclamation abandoning the German titles only applied to "the descendants in the male line of Our said Grandmother Queen Victoria who are subjects of these Realms". On her marriage to a foreign prince, Maud, though remaining a British princess, ceased to be a subject of the United Kingdom, so George V's renunciation did not apply to her. Opera hat (talk) 23:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princesses married into other royal families 

message: Umm. I hesitate to point this out, because it's causing quite a stir on another page, but the section in regards to "Princess by Marriage" is in and of itself a misnomer.  One does not become a "Princess" by marrying a Prince in the United Kingdom.  There are only three ways to be a Princess of the United Kingdom;
Daughter of the Monarch,
Daughter of the Son of the Monarch,
Be created one by Letters Patent from the Monarch.
This section needs to be changed.. Thoughts? Dphilp75 (talk) 01:27, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs to be deleted, IMHO. GoodDay (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Camilla, Catherine and Meghan are all not Princesses, so this section should be removed entirely. Mythology3757 (talk) 16:50, 26 September 2019 (BST)
Nonsense. A woman shares her husband's rank and title. Wives of barons, viscounts, earls, marquesses, dukes, princes, and kings are baronesses, viscountesses, countesses, marchionesses, duchesses, princesses, and queens respectively. Catherine is explicitly described as "princess of the United Kingdom" on the birth certificates of her children. The section is fine. Surtsicna (talk) 21:50, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uhhh, Princess by Marriage section? 

message: I was just wondering if the proposed changes to the male-preference succession would have any effect on William and Catherine's eldest child, if a daughter. I know that for know, the eldest son of the eldest son of The Prince of Wales, has the style and title "HRH Prince X of Y". In this case it would be "HRH Prince Firstname of Cambridge". 
Any other children would be Lord/Lady Firstname Windsor.
Would this also be the style of a firstborn princess? If William and Catherine's eldest is a princess, would she be "HRH Princess Firstname of Cambridge"?
PrsGoddess187 15:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed changes to succession 

message: The link to "Charlotte" does not go to a disambiguation page or the name, but the city of Charlotte, NC, entirely inappropriate.  74.69.127.200 (talk) 19:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  link improper 

message: The box of the British princesses by marriage has an asterisk by Wallis Simpson that she was not a British princess by marriage. If so, what was she, and why is she listed in a box that SAYS "British princesses by marriage". She married a British prince, albiet a former sovereign, and while she was not a royal duchess and not entitled to the style or precedence of "Her Royal Highness" (I've read that after the Abdication, the Prince Edward, Duke of Windsor ranked lowest in precedence after his younger siblings and that Wallis ranked the lowest of the low). I believe that regardless, for the purposes of the box, that she was a British princess by marriage, because she MARRIED a British PRINCE. However she was not a royal princess by the Letters Patent of King George VI. 74.69.6.182 (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  headers 

message: The Duchess of Cornwall should be listed too. If she is not listed ... also die Countess of Wessex and the Duchess of Cambridge cant be listed here. The moment a woman marries a Bristish Prince she becomes a British Princess ... And if a certification is needed for Camilla ... a certification is needed for Sophie and Catherine too.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.20.133 (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll need to provide a reliable source which specifically states that she is a princess, not just your personal opinion. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:04, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: But can you provide a source which specifically states that Sophie and Catherine are princesses? The Bristish laws gives women directly all titles in style of their husbands. And here is the source you wanted: Titles and Orders--Bar78 (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a personal website not recognized as a reliable source. Nor is it relevant to an unsourced allegation in this  article, once challenged, whether something is or is not sourced in another article, per POINT. Nor do "British laws" give wives all styles of their husbands': that principle applies to peerages. FactStraight (talk) 07:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: And why are Shophie and Catherine Princesses? --Bar78 (talk) 18:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

text: I still wait for an answer: Where is the source, that Sophie, Countess of Wessex and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge are Princesses?--Bar78 (talk) 20:22, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Camilla is a Princess

message: Wouldn't it be considered obsolete and passé in our modern world to claim that the Queen's youngest son's wife, for example, besides her regular title, also could be called Princess Edward and the wife of Prince William can be called Princess William? I am more interested in reliable sources, which might confirm that such anachroisms are still in use, than I am in what only would amount to the personal opinions of fellow users. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it wouldn't be. See also the stall plate at the Queen's Chapel of the Savoy:  They are very much in present use (and therefore not anachronisms at all), as illustrated by the examples of Princess Michael of Kent and Lady Nicholas Windsor. Surtsicna (talk) 12:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Will add your sources to the article. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Obsolete name formats?

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message: "For example, Prince George, Duke of Cambridge, a male-line grandson of George III, married Sarah Louisa Fairbrother, in contravention of the Royal Marriages Act. Although morganatic marriage did not exist in British law, the duke's wife was never titled the Duchess of Cambridge or accorded the style "Her Royal Highness". Instead, she was known as "Mrs FitzGeorge". Most famously, George VI issued Letters Patent dated 27 May 1937 that entitled The Duke of Windsor "to hold and enjoy for himself only the title style or attribute of Royal Highness so however that his wife and descendants if any shall not hold the said title style or attribute".
A marriage conducted in contravention of the RMA was not a marriage in UK law. So the sovereign didn't withold any title since there was no marriage for the title to be gained by! Garlicplanting (talk) 12:30, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  RMA needs deleting or major rewrite 

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message: This article states that Queen Mary was not named for Queen Victoria. That is not true. Her mother specifically named her first name Victoria to ingratiate herself to her cousin the queen. 209.179.118.134 (talk) 15:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common Names 

message: I am wondering would the wives of sons of the Prince of Wales also have the title of HRH Princess? Joddd334 (talk) 22:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wives of sons of the eldest child of the Prince of Wales