Talk:List of the Inheritance Cycle characters

message: Okay, I'd like to propose a standard for this page. 
#This page should be divided into several geographical regions, so as to best match with the Alagaësia page as possible. Also included should be a section for main characters, which I would define to be Eragon, Arya, Roran, Murtagh, Saphira, and Brom.
#There can also be some distinctions made to races, Dragons should almost certainly be separated from their geographical regions, and other similar things might be done as well.  
#If one of the sections becomes unduly large, it should be sorted as appropriate (Ie, if there are more than 5 people from Cavahall, perhaps a new section should be created for people from that town, etc.)
#They should be grouped so that there are sections of about 5-10 people per category, unless there's an obvious reason why there should be more, or it is the most abstract that one could reasonably do. 
#Any new character should be added to this page first.  
#If there is a family (For instance, Horst), the family can be considered together, unless one plays a very signifigant role (For instance, Roran/Eragon definitely should be different, Nasuda/Ajihad, etc.)
#If any one section grows to be longer than 3 good paragraphs, then that person should be given their own page, and the result on this page summarized. The summary should be 2 paragraphs, 3 at the most.
#For every entry included here that has at least one good paragraph of information, a link on a disambiguation page or redirect should be made, to the appropriate section. They should not just link to the top of the page.
#If this page ever becomes too large as a whole, then it should be divided, according to the large regions where each character lives. Major characters would most likely only appear in their own pages, and not on this list of characters.
I would like to have any questions about this policy, and see if it should give some guidance to help make the character organization more clear. Tuvas 17:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed standard for this page

message: I think a lot of characters are missing from this article. I can't even find Elva. Could someone fix this? Shrewpelt 02:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters missing

message: This looks like it was just a copy-and-paste job. I removed the original research (the real-world and similarities sections), and cleaned up the headings, but it still needs to be condensed to a more manageable size. Una LagunaTalk 10:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Arya is one of two characters in the Inheritance cycle series whose last name is revealed. Her surname, Dröttning, means 'queen' in Icelandic and Swedish. This is not entirely correct. The Swedish word for queen is "drottning" with a simple o (dotless). It may not seem much but "Dröttning" has not been used in the Swedish language since pre-medieval times. Hackeru (talk) 13:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arya 

message: The poor guy used to have his own article, right? I REMEMBER THIS KINDA STUFF!!!!!!
I copied the whole thing into Word on my computer. And...and... now it's gone!! *sobbing wildly*
I WANT HIS ARTICLE BACK!
--Éowyn Alestrii 18:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article was removed as one character doesn't merit their own article. As it was, there were practically no sources beyond primary sources (as in, the books and films), giving it no out-of-universe information. This is a no-no for Wikipedia articles. The current entry on this page goes into about as much depth as you'd need to for an encyclopedia entry. If you can expand it with useful, notable content to the extent that it needs its own article, then go ahead, although I don't think that's likely. The same arguments apply to all other major characters (Brom, Arya, etc). Una LagunaTalk 20:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally think that if Murtagh doesn't have an artical, Eragon shouldn't. Murtagh has done as much if not more than Eragon (plus he doesn't faint after every battle...). Also, exceptions are commonly made to the "policies". CP must have said a few things about Murtagh, which is out-of-universe information. Jazz Band Member 14:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pfft haha it doesn't even need to be a battle for Eragon to faint *snort*. But yeah I deffently thinks Murtagh should have his own article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.0.128 (talk) 23:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your own personal opinion on which character has done more does not decide which characters need their own article. And more importantly, what useful, encyclopedic content would be included in a full-blown article which couldn't be included in a section of this page? Una LagunaTalk 07:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

text: My comments in reply to your other edit also apply here. Una LagunaTalk 08:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murtagh 

message: @ immediately above, I think everyone that's a major player in Inheritance ought to have their own article, provided it's got enough external sources.--Gp75motorsports 10:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. But they dont. Hence the lack of pages. i said 23:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't seem nessesary to have a page on every important character when most of the information about them is just repeated from Eragon or Eldest.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions) 23:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sunny pretty much nailed the point. Why try to create new, encyclopedic articles when they just recycle information from other articles, or go into an unnecessary amount of depth? Una LagunaTalk 06:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's what I think about that. 

message: This page is a mess, I am laughing at how much is wrong. First the characters are listed poorly, they should be put as importance to the story, not by alphabetical order. Second, there is vandalism in a few sections, and three, it looks like someone copied a whole section and repasted. Not that there is anything wrong, as long as it was a former page. The thing that is wrong is that when it was pasted, they forgot to delete all the little [edit] links. Also, there are characters listed twice, such as Eragon in two sections. Plus, the page is way to long. This whole page is totally in need of a cleanup. Anyone who would like to help cleanup this page would greatly be appreciated.
Bd8494 (talk) 03:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you point out some of the characters with more than 1section? I can only see eragon, and thats because theres 2eragons (the 1st rider and the eragon we know in the book).--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions) 03:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

text: yes i agree this article needs a substantial amount of cleanup, it riddles with original research, vandalism, and general all around inaccuracy. also i would like to request that someone please add more to the section on Arya, all she gets is one sentence even though she is one of the pivotal characters(spelling). also the general all around messiness is somewhat confusing, as the raz'ac just have a sentence about how they'r a rip off of the nazgul and tolkein must be rolling over in his grave. i would ask that this article be cleaned up and put on semi-protection.READY TO FINISH THE FIGHT! (talk) 13:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: General Cleanup

message: I found a link within the article 'Brom' Quoted below
"Near the end of Eragon he is killed by the Ra'zac"
In the link 'Ra'zac' it redirects to Algaesia. I am not well-knowledged with the lore of Inheritance but the article describes the Ra'zac as a character, yet it redirects to a location. Could someone amend this, or inform me if I am very much mistaken 84.45.134.188 (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem solved.  If you want to know how I did this so you can do it in the future, feel free to ask me on my talk page.  Grey Maiden talk 22:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Messed up link? 

message: The grammar in the Islanzadi section (the second part, mostly) is completely messed up. I'd fix it except I have no idea what it's trying to say. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 23:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Islanzadi section 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:BRISINGR.jpg

message: The content on these pages is choppy. Especially the sections on Brom, and Galbatorix. This seems like rushed work that noone cares about. We should do something about this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.234.79 (talk) 08:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content 

message: Shouldn't there be an alert at the beginning, like 'the following article has spoilers'? or is there nothing like that here?
JainaSkylar (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:SPOILER. It's common sense that an article describing various characters will contain some form of spoiler. Una LagunaTalk 21:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoilers

message: I'm reverting a set of edits, not because they're bad, but because they're making small, unnecessary additions to the article. This may look like a case of  WP:OWN; however, let me explain my actions.
When I say I "rewrote" the article (see above), what I problem should have said was "condensed". I made the article shorter by removing any unnecessary details. Some of it was removing paragraphs which went way overboard with detail, but a lot of it was simply taking out the odd sentence. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information, and in the interest of keeping this article as short and reader-friendly as possible (remember, articles are meant to be written with the non-expert in mind - fans looking for detailed analysis should go elsewhere), I'll remove any unnecessary additions to prevent a snowball effect. If every couple of days someone added a few sentences here and there, after a few months the article will have grown substantially, and unnecessarily, in size. Una LagunaTalk 06:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relatively minor edits to article 

message: I merged the content from  the page Garrow into the Garrow section, as directed by the merge discussion, and replaced the Garrow page with a redirect to the appropriate section here. Agathman (talk) 14:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garrow 

message: When thinking of major characters, I would definitely think of Oromis, Glaedr and Orik. There are already some exceptions to the classification solely by geography and race: Nasuada and Galbatorix are both listed under major characters. Anybody agree/disagree? Star Garnet (talk) 00:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Characters 

message: I think that if Maud the Werecat gets a place that Solembum should get a place too. please make a place for Him! Knapper1176 (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Solembum

message: how is thorn a major character? He does not belong in the major charachter space.  Please change!  (Boekholt gregori (talk) 22:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Thorn is main?

message: I think Birgit should get at least a mention in the Carvahall characters? I mean, she is the second most important person in the Carvahall rebellion, and also speaks for Katrina at her wedding. She could also be playing an important role in the last book, as she wants revenge over Roran. A slight mention, at least? And Gertrude is a very important character as well, she heals Garrow and Eragon, and later Roran too.  Vraelisfrail (talk) 13:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Birgit & Gertrude

message: Should character descriptions be written in past tense if they are no longer living by the time the storyline ends? According to this Manual of Style supplement, works of fiction should be written in the present tense, but I am not sure if that is referring to only plot summaries. It seems to me like the article would be more consistent if it were all written in one tense in regards to character descriptions, but I do not want to just revert edits that are changing the tense from present to past. --Jonadin93 (talk) 00:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct tense? 

message: The new article Brom (character) is similar to Brom (Inheritance), which was merged here five years ago following consensus from discussion at Talk:Eragon. Any objections to redirecting the new Brom article as well?  Thanks, Altered Walter (talk) 11:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's been a week, and no objections, so I'll restore your redirect. Thanks,  Altered Walter (talk) 10:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brom (character) 

message: Um, it says
In Eragon, Angela later appears in Tronjheim, where she has taken up residence
but as I understand, wasn't she in hiding at first? So, not having taken up legal residence?
Jhasn Sapientia (talk) 02:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angela (character) 

message: Their should be a page for each IMPORTANT charecter, for instance Brom and Roran. People who only apear once or twice should not have their own page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KitMat (talk • contribs) 16:08, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character pages 

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message: Although this article is in poor shape right now, it's a pretty easy fix. I ask that editors hold off on deleting it for at least a month, during which I hop to do the following:
*Give it some sources. There are at least 5 books and several articles I know which can support it, just need to assemble them.
*Trim up any lengthy descriptions.
*Make a clearer statement of notability - i.e. describe the series it comes from and its notability, and ref a few sources which compare these characters to supposed "derivatives" from other series (Star Wars and Lord of the Rings controversies).
*See if there's anybody in the Inheritance WikiProject left to watch it.
Much obliged for your patience. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 04:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contesting proposed deletion