Talk:Space Mirror Memorial

message: I have 10 images of this mirror and memorial that I would gladly let somebody integrate into this article, or I could attempt to do so... sbuckley 13:22, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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message: I removed the unsourced statement about Clifton's astronaut wings being on the surface of the moon. Chaikin's book ("A man on the moon", Penguin, 1994), on page 263 says that Bean threw his own astronaut wings into the Surveyor crater during Apollo 12, and says nothing about Williams' wings. Mlm42 (talk) 20:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: From memory there's further sources available on the article to do with astronaut wings; I read it just the other day, ironic I stumbled across this. That said, there is no relevance of astronaut wings to this article which is about a space mirror white elephant memorial, so you did the right thing removing it. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 03:52, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clifton's astronaut wings 

message: Just reading up on this ... artifact. It's a white elephant, straight up. The article reads really tilted towards defending it. It's a mirror, not even a very high quality construction, on a dodgy tracking system that doesn't work. The article says it cost six million dollars, this is incorrect. The project overall is claimed to have cost six million dollars, we don't know how much the memorial itself cost besides 'the owners of the memorial claim it cost six million dollars' per the citation and any other primary sources I can find.
Given the tracking system is the same as most medium sized commercial and government radioastronomy tracking stations use, and given that Google offers a slew of figures on repair work and full replacement of such systems, we can estimate that repair and replacement of the entire tracking system should not cost more than $38,000 or there abouts. I've found all of this with five minutes of Google-fu, surely someone who is more attached to this article can try and develop it a bit better? And hopefully stop sucking up to the creators of it? I have no real attachment to this article, and as I like to volunteer on the dispute resolution team I tend to avoid getting too involved in articles in general to remain as objective and neutral as possible. But seeing this made me mad. Wasting how much cash powering giant flood lights 24/7? Wrecking the world the astronauts longed to look down upon one kilowatt hour at a time with CO2 emissions? Really, NASA?
License plates, fund raisers, six million dollars and the odd near $400k constant claims makes it sound like this is a giant cover up for embezzlement for a really heavy cocaine addiction, not a legitimate memorial for fallen astronauts and cosmonauts. The bottom line is, it's a text book example of a public works project gone wrong and a white elephant, and it really ought to be noted as such. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 03:51, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems a bit NPOV; this thing is a white elephant from the sounds of it. 

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message: Found an article that talks bit about development. Article Kees08 (Talk) 03:46, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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