Talk:Doujinshi

message: I'm just wondering how you can publish your own comics, like Doujinshi, if anyone knows please post a message.Hey Joe what you know? (talk) 23:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just wondering... 

message: I think it's worth noting that in the English-speaking world "doujinshi" (or "doujin") is quite often a euphemism for hentai featuring characters from popular anime (Try searching "doujin" on Google for example). —Casey J. Morris July 7, 2005 06:42 (UTC)
:It's the same in Japanese. Ashibaka (tock) 19:55, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Doujinshi," "doujin" 

message: There are 7 external links that all point to the same website. After looking at the history it would seem that whoever put those links there keeps putting them back after other someone has removed them.  Can the spam be kept off of the article? —Isuldor 09:15, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Requested semi-protect for the page.  I also suggest that the in-line spam be removed as well.--み使い Mitsukai 13:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam 

message: *Oppose.  Dojin is more than a mere abbreviation for dojinshi.  There's also Dojin soft, Dojin Music, List of dojin works, List of H dōjinshi authors and H dōjinshi to consider as well.  All are forks of the original dojin article and if anything, Dojinshi should be merged there, not the other way around.  However, since both are reasonably large, they should be kept seperate.--み使い Mitsukai 18:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dojinshi]]/[[Dojin]] merger 

message: What about legality of doujinshi (when they use characters from another company's anime or manga)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.82.84.67 (talk • contribs) .
Depends on the jurisdiction in which they are produced and/or distributed and the attitude to such fan created works of the intellectual property right(s) holder(s) in that jurisdiction or jurisdictions. Alex Law 08:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality 

message: Any ideas on where to look into maybe finding someone willing to make their doujinshi free use? Or at least just the cover. Seems like someone out there wouldn't mind.--SeizureDog 08:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW I wouldn't mind actually drawing some goofy doujinshi cover, if it could somehow be allowed as a parody without bumping into several fair-use laws here. As soon as a picture depicting something already copyrighted shows up, tragedy ensues. Would you have to create something, freely license it, and then parody it? Gah. --Primetech 19:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free use image? 

message: Is it really neutral to state that "most" people in the west think of doujinshi as derivative or pornographic? According to what source? Personal experience? Bias against westerners? A source needs to be cited, or the neutrality of the "perception section needs to be assessed. Fade 00:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I updated it a little bit but there is still a lot that could be done. I also think it is incorrect to state that "A major part of dōjinshi, whether based on mainstream publications or original, contains sexually explicit material". Certainly there is no shortage of that sort of material but that statement makes it seem like that is the main point of creating dōjinshi, which I would say is not the case. The japanese wiki article on dōjinshi is very detailed and could be useful for anyone interested in fixing this article up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.12.93 (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

message: Notice that dōjinshi and samizdat both mean (roughly translated) "self-publishing". The fact that the one actually mostly means "porn" in practice, and the other "political pamphlet" (even if in neither case exclusively) seems to me to reflect on what is "repressed" in each of the originating countries. :-) -- Tonymec 17:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Yeah, that makes sense. --AnY FOUR! 23:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese or English? 

message: What? They only can be in English or Japanese? Better definition please. Like self-published manga with linkie to manga.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitsuji Kinno (talk • contribs) 18:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  are self-published Japanese or English works, usually manga or novels. 

message: I've decided not to add this information here, because it is not sourced, but, accroding to :ru:Додзинси, dōjinshi was initially literary magazines (not novels), and the term itself is a Japanese portmanteau of dojinzasshi (同人雑誌). It's also said that the term was initially related to junbungaku literature (純文学), "pure literature" (i.e. serious books, not pop-oriented). -- deerstop. 16:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ru:Dōjinshi 

message: Yano Research Reports on Japan's 2009-10 Otaku Market
--KrebMarkt (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coverage 

message: Major Wired article from 2007. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:44, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source 

message: Are you seriously trying to make people believe that Touhou doesn't have much adult dojinshi? Have you LOOKED around lately? There's a joke that goes "new Touhou doujins get created every 5 seconds". I'm sorry, I just don't buy that Touhou is an "exception" rather than the norm.--68.6.182.39 (talk) 21:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touhou 

message: I found this gem of an uncited statement:
Obviously this needs to be fixed. Can someone improve this statement? Marowmerowmer (talk) 08:16, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random weirdness 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Can we have a more appropriate doujinshi cover image for this page? Right now we've got one about peeking at the panties of underage school girls. That kind of doujinshi is a pretty small minority. There are lots of safe for work doujinshi, and lots of doujinshi with erotic content that have safe for work covers. I feel that the current cover is giving the wrong impression of what most doujinshi are like.Amanoshi (talk) 11:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have an alternative free use image? Granted that the current image isn't a desirable one, but since this topic can be adequately conveyed by a free use image, you cannot use a copyrighted image. Even dōjinshi falls under copyright, so you cannot use a random image unless it is free use. EDIT: I am a little concern that there may have been a bait and switch with the image, because an entirely different image was uploaded to Commons within the past few days. Because this new image has not been verified as free use I am tempted to remove it until it is reverified. —Farix (t | c) 12:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one I could find is a Western doujinshi of Naruto where the author has used a CC license: (https://imgur.com/a/jFECzpa) Does it still count as free use if it's a fanwork? Amanoshi (talk) 14:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that it is based on copyrighted characters will prevent it being used on Wikipedia as an illustration of the topic. —Farix (t | c) 15:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, wouldn't a photograph of a doujinshi market like Comiket be more appropriate? That's what the Japanese Wikipedia article uses. The picture we have now is of an uncommon style for doujinshi covers and also uses google translated Japanese. I don't feel like it's an authentic portrayal of what Japanese doujinshi covers are like, and is more likely to be some random person using Wikipedia for their school girl panties fetish.Amanoshi (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A photo of the Comiket crowd would be acceptable for the Comiket section, but not the section where the cover image is located. So that would not be a suitable replacement. —Farix (t | c) 20:57, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Can we bring this up again? Not only is the image inauthentic (not a real doujinshi, uses fake Japanese, and honestly doesn't particularly look like actual doujinshi) but it gives a wholly inappropriate first impression of what doujinshi actually is. Sure there are plenty of erotic works out there, but a lot (most?) of it is not so. This image gives the impression that doujinshi is inherently sexual, and at that, sexualizes minors. My vote is that if a suitable replacement cannot be found, then it should be removed entirely with little if any detriment to the quality of the article. CharonM72 (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free use image 

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The result of the move request was: Moved articles. Categories should be listed at WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy   (t · c) buidhe 14:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 December 2020 

message: See Talk:Doujinshi convention#Requested move 20 October 2021. --Thibaut (talk) 04:11, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Doujinshi convention]]: move discussion in progress 

message: Can we get rid of this bit? It's so obviously nonsense. Eldomtom2 (talk) 09:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Opplinger's claims on western fans