Talk:RPG Maker/Archive 1

message: See reasons listed on talk page for Custom Battle System --Noah Smith 01:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and merged the articles. I also cleaned it up a little bit while I was at it. It simply didn't really require to have its own article, so I used the snowball clause to move it without further consent. --Michiel Sikma 09:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Custom Battle Merger 

message: I dont think the link should be redirected to Don miguel of spain. - Grundlegod 03:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don miguel? 

message: 63.205.212.167 removed official US site links and is hell-bent on advertising RPG Crisis everywhere possible, going as far as to sticking a blatant advertisement on the RPG Maker 2000 wiki.- Valkysas
72.140.2.218 keeps vandalizing the timeline section. any way we could get him banned? "Bill37212" is doing a damn good job removing his stupid remarks everyday though, thanks!Valkysas 20:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misc. Discussion 

message: It's just like a copy of a psp iso it's illegal. And show my ip because with all due respect I couldn't give a damn. Also If ya wanna find me lookp me up.
Yes, because we'd want to look you up because you called it illegal... "How dare you"?
...
By the way, that was an example of sarcasm, just so you know
* I know it's sarcasm but I don't hate you for using something that I have no control over. This is best left between you two.
:\... erm, there's no real issue I was trying to be a smartass o_o 4.235.205.6 00:40, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RpgMaker 2000 is illegal simple as that 

message: XD. How the hell is my game, Music Box, on the notable games list? Last time I checked I never released it. I think "notable" should be erased from "Notable Games made with RPG Maker."
: =P I added any game that had an article.  I was actually tempted to put my game, which is about ten hours in development :) Deckiller 00:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the hell? 

message: :Fixed. You should know better. --coldacid 17:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just testing everyone's patience 

message: The RPGMaker 2000 article adds little new, and is the only RPG Maker program to get its own article. Therefore I suggest that these two articles be merged. --coldacid 16:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All set. Deckiller 03:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging with [[RPGMaker 2000]] 

message: Ok, i'll point out, this is getting ridiculous... you should be pointing links to the hub of the RPG Maker community, so far all i can see is links to relatively new sites.
I don't know if people are trying to advertise or what, but links should be to the sites that have been pillars of the RPG Maker community for years.
I.e.
GamingW
GamingGroundZero
RPG2Knet
Etc.
Those three at least are the sites that have been around for a LONG time and were regarded as the centers of the RPG Making community in its hey day.
I'll give you that one, but many of them are still basically there for advertisement, GGZ is geared towards spriting now yes, but its still a useful resource and is still pretty active.
But sites like GW and Rpg2knet should still be included.
Or as you pointed out, if your going to remove one site, remove them all.
Quit taking the "official" out of the pavilion and magazine links. the pavilion has been around 6 years, the mag a little over 4. both are officially supported by agetec.
Valkysas 04:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: :See Talk:A_Blurred_Line#Merger_Proposition
I propose that this section be enlarged, and some of these lesser known games weeded out.  For A Blurred Line, The Way and a few others, there can be subheadings containing short summary of the articles.  I would like to start out with A Blurred Line, as it is probably the most prominant RPG Maker game, and then maybe we can make our way to The Way and others.  Please discuss. --imaek 21:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll go ahead and merge the articles A Blurred Line, The Way, and the one I created a long time ago, The Weapons of Ganildan.  I'm a major mergist, and I completely agree.  However, I'll mere all information first, and let you guys modify it from there. Deckiller 17:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I didn't merge Laxius, because it featured a fair amount of development (I want to make sure that it is completely agreed before merging developer articles). Deckiller 17:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah; perhaps we shouldn't list any games.  Period.  After all, we don't list fanfiction on the site. Deckiller 12:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: it was a good idea, but then people started coming in just to promote their upcoming games. notable games need to be games that everyone in that given community has played, games that break barriers, innovate like none other. if they want to have info on their upcoming games on wikipedia, they should just start a new entry, not hijack this one. its hard enough keeping this entry clean with the rampant vanadlism aleady. Maybe it should just go back to just having a list of games (without descriptions), because pretty much everything on that list deserved it's place on there. What does everyone else think?Valkysas 18:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  -=nods=-. Fan fiction/fan work is not allowed to feature its own sections/articles anyway, so we should just bring it back to a simple list. Deckiller 19:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, go ahead; I just merged them together in hopes of removing them with one swipe, myself.  They don't belong here (except for MAYBE external links and/or a list). Deckiller 20:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposition 

message: I've removed some non-noteworthy sites from the external links section. Generally, sites with very low member counts aren't supposed to be there. I also suggest deletion for the RPG_Maker_Database article. --Michiel Sikma 17:20, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Will someone PLEASE start actively monitoring the Noteworthy Games section? This place has become a linkspamming repository. No more unnotable games must be added to this section, or else it might be better to put the entire paragraph in its own locked down template. --Michiel Sikma 11:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to trim all those crufty sections; I don't think ABL warrents detailed explanation on battle systems, when many official video games don't even have that sort of detail. Deckiller 17:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really mind the excessive detail in that section. I'm really just worried about the fact that there are community games in the list that seem to be completely insignificant. I'm also going to remove Icecap Valley 2: Shadow of Darkness unless there's strong consensus to keep it. --Michiel Sikma 16:00, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I monitor it the best I can. I'm not involved with the PC RPG Maker community, so I dont know what exactly is notable or not under that category, and so I'm not fit to remove games from it. the only thing I can manage with any certainty is the console RPGM games added, which there are currently none of in the list. One was added, but I took it down since the game isnt even posted online for anyone to play. I'll be adding in a few noteworthy games made with the console RPGM series within the week. It'll probably only be the three or so games. Ixzion will probably add a few too. Neither of us will put anything on that list that doesnt belong though.Valkysas 18:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Non-)noteworthy games 

message: I removed some sites, divided the section into official sites and fansites. I also added a notice saying that this is a list of the "most noteworthy communities" and gave a hard limit of 5000 members (of course, member count isn't always the most important factor, so exceptions are granted for Pavilion and Magazine). I hope that this will make people who want to add their non-noteworthy site to the list think twice, since their site would not conform to the profile. I hope that you agree to this decision and will help me keep the list clean of spam. --Michiel Sikma 15:44, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are mistakes all over this article. some parts are written as if the article is only about the PC RPG Maker series too. you'll see that anything talking about the PC version of the software doesnt even say that it's for the PC versions, which would make it easy for someone to think it's talking about the console versions too. almost all information in the article needs to be re-sorted, and re-written.Valkysas 17:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have copy-edited the article, and thus removed the  tag.  I hope this is to the satisfaction of the community.  Additionally, I added some information about RPG Maker XP wherever it was talking about all makers in general. --Mewsterus 23:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-noteworthy sites 

message: I think "The Program" should be retitled to make it clearer that it's talking about the PC RPG Maker series, because in time I would like to add information that is strictly about the console RPG Maker series, and not worry about people getting them confused.Valkysas 00:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to rename it to what you think is most appropriate. There wasn't really a need to ask. --Michiel Sikma 07:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Program" 

message: I removed it. It's popular, but it's definetly not noteworthy or as popular as the Way or a Blurred Line. Revert my edit if you want, but I feel that this change is for the better. M2K 01:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Teo's game was amazing, but kind of an Underdog. Keep in mind that noteworthy does not necessarily imply the fact it had a large fanbase; it could also be simply the fact that it's universally considered to be a very high-quality game that makes it noteworthy. But that's always very difficult to prove, especially in this small community, so I'd rather not have it in the article. --Michiel Sikma 22:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunset over Imdahl 

message: Most RM games are non-notable in the broad Internet sense, but perhaps a list page (separate from the main "RPG Maker" article) would be an informative "Who's Who" in RM games. I'm not sure if this idea has ever been brought up before, but all over Wikipedia, there are lists of various (fairly insignificant) items with a central theme. It could work, you know? --Nameless Nutjob
:This is actually a good idea, in my opinion. RidE the Lightning! 20:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "List of RPG Maker Games" 

message: Since I'm part of the RPG Maker Community, I heard recently that ABL: Line's End, is going to be made in RMXP. Should I add it?
:Is it true? If it's just a rumor, then no.Valkysas 06:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard this, also. I really think it's just a rumor. The only thing official is that it's till being made. I think Lysander86 wants to keep it a surprise. RidE the Lightning! 20:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Blurred Line Info 

message: The whole analysis of The Way being a sexual journey wasn't serious. Cocoa kept saying that as a running joke, and I've heard of no one else that espouses the theory. I'm going to go ahead and take it out. Feel free to put it back in if you think the article needs it, but I'd like to see the proof that people actually think that. --Cronodude360 21:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article made me wonder. It now informs that the theory is a joke.--Uberisaac 14:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freudian Way 

message: Should RPG Maker Wiki really be in there? The members stats are all of Wikia's members stats, so they aren ot truly the site's. I think only a ocuple of people actually go there, and it doesn't have that much content.--Unknown
The point of the RMwiki being there was to provide a place for RPG Maker "spin-off articles" to go where they wouldn't be cluttering up Wikipedia. Examples of the articles including "Kamau" and "CBS." Abyssal leviathin 04:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RPG Maker Wiki??? 

message: Ruby Game Scripting should not redirect here. Ruby can be used to script a variety of games not just RPG Maker things.
::Ruby Game Scripting System is RMXP's specific implementation and game API for Ruby. It should definitely redirect here. Unless of course you know somewhere else were the term "Ruby Game Scripting System" is used? --Casiotonetalk 19:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruby Game Scripting System 

message: Is this game truly notable? M2K E 18:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chairman's Quest? 

message: This article contains mostly the exact same information as RPG Maker Series, so I think they should be merged. Anybody else? Covarr 17:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So then the current "RPG Maker" article would go to the first Playstation RPG Maker (since it's title IS simply RPG Maker)? So we'd have articles for RPG Maker, RPG Maker 2, RPG Maker 3, RPG Maker 2000, RPG Maker 2003, and RPG Maker XP? The PC RPG Makers may be similar enough to share one article (the type-sorting you mentioned as a possibility above), but the console versions are 100% different engines and each would would have to have it's own article. So when should the conversion start? is RPG Maker Series complete enough yet to take this article's place?Valkysas 15:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be merged with "RPG Maker Series"?