Talk:Comparison of antivirus software

message: I did not verify the correctness of all the information that I entered. Some of the information origins from other articles in Wikipedia. Sometimes, there is the danger of mistakes when copying this information. E. g., the article about AVG Anti-Virus says that it is also available for Linux and that there is a free edition. However, the free edition is not available for Linux... --MrWiseGuy 09:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entries need to be checked 

message: Does anybody have other well known anti-virus softwares, such as McAfee and Norton?
:Sophos and Trend are also missing despite being major players. --DanielRigal (talk) 10:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware is missing too. SEppley (talk) 19:35, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Returnil Virtual System (http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/) has an integrated antivirus.  comes in free version and paid.Newtonsghost (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Antivirus Software? 

message: There is Mac Version of avast! as well http://www.avast.com/eng/press-release-avast-mac-edition-released.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.234.201.49 (talk) 11:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac Version of avast! 

message: Why are all the license entries the same color? MSE marketing team perhaps? Or it was an arbitrary decision and I'm just lazy. Anybody up for the job, please update. Would be nice to make tables sortable by license type, price, and other stats.99.108.226.85 (talk) 23:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sortable columns 

message: Column titles which are neither linked or explained in a legend in this article should be removed, no? Except the obvious, self-explanatory ones. Somehow, this "live update" does not quite do it for me. --Jerome Potts (talk) 06:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the "live update" column? 

message: while i applaud the compilation of data here, it would be good to understand it's relevance for today. meaning, what is the year/date of the testing done at the independent labs?  the presumption is that these results are current which could give inaccurate information.Newtonsghost (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need date of product testing 

message: 1.) Adaware (by Lavasoft) has had included A-V for some time, also has standalone Antivirus. Adaware uses GFI engine.  2.) Microsoft also uses someone elses antivirus engine, not sure but they bought a major stake in G Data?  3.) Zones (Zone Alarm) Antivirus is free and rated higher than Norton et al. It is standalone from Zone Alarm Firewall.
Shjacks45 (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Antivirus Vendors 

message: The footnote listing products removed as non-notable does not give any reasons for their exclusion.  Because assessing the notability of anything is one of the most contentious issues amongst Wikipedians, reasons need to be given.
It would also be nice to have a specification as to which notability criteria are used for list inclusion (these surely cannot be the same as the criteria for creation of whole articles).  One should also consider if notability of being the biggest scam since Madoff would pass the criteria of being a "notable" AV product (I see no such products on the list now, which is objectively good).
Currently it seems that any Wikipedian could exclude or include any product other than their own, by simply claiming notability or not without backing up their claim.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbohmdk (talk • contribs) 03:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add a section listing why each product was removed as non-notable 

message: Some AV products work by routinely sending (some of) the users files to an online server for examination.  Some AV products send statistics about the users files to the vendor.  Some make this optional, but punish users who refuse by giving them less protection.
These factors can be critical selection criteria for anyone who has confidential materials on their computers, regardless of the apparent trustworthyness of the vendor.  Thus the presence, absence or optionality of such functionality should be included as another column in the tables.
Some possible values in such a column could be "no" (green), "option" (green), "pushed" (== optional, but with penalty if refused) (yellow), "yes" (red).
A few years ago, it would be absurd to suggest any AV product did that, today it is an increasingly common practice and thus something to watch out for.
Jbohmdk (talk) 03:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add a column indicating the spying nature of some AV products 

message: You should NOT add antivirus software to this list unless it has an article or you can provide citation to its notability while it remains a red link.
Also, as this "ref" is not encyclopedic content I have removed the in-line comments from the article
Entries which have been removed from these tables for lack of notability include:
*SmartCOP Internet Security Suite by AvSoft Technologies
*The free Celframe Security Labs
*Emsisoft Internet Security
*IKARUS anti.virus and their free mobile.security for Android
*MicroWorld Technologies' "eScan" products for Windows, Mac OS, Linux and Android
*Products by Norman
*"Protector Plus" by Proland Software
*Products by Quick Heal Technologies
*"Incredible Antivirus" by RMG Technologies International
*ProtectMac AntiVirus
*CyberSoft's "VSTK" for Linux, Solaris, and FreeBSD
*The free NQ Mobile Security for Android and Windows Mobile
--Jpswade (talk) 09:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion Criteria 

message: This is a c&p from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirusTotal
Original URL is: https://www.virustotal.com/en/about/credits/
Tobias B. Besemer (talk) 02:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  More antivirus software from the VirusTotal article 

message: The "Criteria" section is NOT encyclopedic as it is self-referencing. The criteria of 'still active' is NOT encyclopedic either, inactive entries are encyclopedic and should not be excluded from this list. --Jpswade (talk) 11:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Kaspersky for Android is free for on-demand but paid for on-access.  I imagine a lot of them are like that and that is a significant feature.  It's misleading to imply something is a free product with X feature, but really you have to pay for that feature.Jawz101 (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  features should be verified and differentiated when dealing with free vs. paid 

message: I noticed that Malwarebytes is not on this page. Could someone put it on? Info2Learn (talk) 03:51, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Malwarebytes 

message: The table comparison is out of date, can someone please refresh it? The following links provide information on what Windows Defender can/can't do, hoping we can get that updated!
https://wincom.blob.core.windows.net/documents/Windows10_Commercial_Comparison.pdf (linked to from the 'Download Full Comparison Table' link/button towards the bottom of https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/compare)
They also list latest test scores from AV-TEST: https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/business-windows-client/
Iaanw (talk) 23:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates to Microsoft - Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection 

message: As of this writing, the term "Email Security" refers to the protection of emails from viruses and malware.  The term is also defined by contrast to "AntiSpam".  Now, while the latter is a clear indication that the software additionally endeavors in recognizing spammy messages —a feature outside its bailiwick— the fact that an anti-virus software can recognize viruses and malware is so obvious that it certainly doesn't deserve a column on its own.  However, there are some lines where Email Security is set to No.  For example:
* ClamAV: On their site I read ClamAV® is an open source (GPL) anti-virus engine used in a variety of situations including email scanning,....
* ESET: They have a page about Email clients.
* Fortinet: They have a FortiMail product, for email gateways.
* Kaspersky: Likewise, Secure Mail Gateway.
* Quick Heal: They claim it Efficiently blocks emails that might carry infected attachments or links to compromised or fake and phishing websites.
The above lines result from a quick googling for "mail" on the web sites where the column says "No", limited to the Linux table.  So, the table is wrong, isn't it?  Think about it: Viruses are not propagated via diskettes as in the 1980s.  Email and the web are the main propagation channels.  Here I concentrate on email because the web features binary content while email attachments can be encoded in a variety of ways.  In fact, in the early 2000s email scanning implied extracting MIME attachments before invoking an AV scanner.  Nowadays, it is highly unlikely that an AV product cannot scan email messages directly.  AV filters are deployed on email servers as well as on end users' devices.  The question is about email handling software, be it an SMTP daemon or an IMAP client.  That software is responsible for scanning new email messages.  Otherwise, there are anti-virus tools which scan everything on every file access, intercepting system calls whenever the disk is read, thereby relieving email (and browser) software from their responsibility.  Even if the latter method can catch viruses in email attachments, I wouldn't tag it Email Security, as it is a totally different feature.
That Email Security column is not only wrong, it is deceptive. ale (talk) 11:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Email Security 

message: The Kaspersky products listed here are discontinued. ￼ TheMaggster (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ? 2405:9800:BA20:4D21:C481:B829:9264:19C3 (talk) 18:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated info 

message: Can someone add the indian company eScan please ? (website). Dadu (talk) 16:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antivirus for Linux : adding eScan ? 

message: I can not find any evidence that F-Secure offers, of ever has offered, an antivirus program for linux. Either someone made it up to confuse people or f-secure are great at stopping me from buying their products 2A10:D582:6397:0:703E:7155:61F1:F13E (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  F-Secure for Linux