Talk:Christianity in Iran

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"The Islamic conquest of Persia, in the 7th century, was originally good for Christians as they were a protected minority."
You might want to work on this. The second class status of non muslims in muslim conquered lands and the mechanisms that killed off the original cultures is well documented by Bat Yeor although I don't know of texts relating to Persia in particular.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.124.143.3 (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: First of all, I removed the NPOV tag.  I'm not really saying that I actually believe the viewpoint is neutral; my main concern is that if you put an NPOV tag on an article, you should state why you believe it is NPOV.  In other words, there should be an actual ongoing documented NPOV dispute in the talk page that specifies which way and how it is skewed. No drive-by NPOV tagging please.  To quote from Wikipedia:NPOV_Dispute...
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That being said, this article has a much bigger problem than merely neutrality.  Almost nothing in the article is sourced.  Unfortunately, I am basically a drive-by-reader.  I have no information on Christianity in Iran and I really can't help with many of the sources except via Googling.  It seems many of the sources that would be needed to substantiate the "current status" content are not in English.  Can someone who is familiar with Iran or with Christianity in Iran please help to clean up this article?
It's an interesting read, but currently with almost no substantiation whatsoever.
JorenCombs (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources Needed, No Drive-By NPOV Tagging Please

message: I'd envite comment - see Talk:Religion_in_Iran#600_Churches.3F please Smkolins (talk) 19:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed one leading space in the comment above, so that Wikipedia inserted line-breaks, instead of one real long sentence. This was merely a formatting issue; I did not wish to offend someone by editing their post.71.101.33.73 (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  600 Churches? 

message: Rev. Saeed Abedini, a U.S. citizen, is being held in IRAN on trumped-up charges of National Security issues, but in actuality, for preaching the Christian religion.
Abbas Pir-Abassi, known as a "hanging judge" because of his draconian rulings, is set to hear Saeed's case at 9:00am Iran Time (GMT +3:30), e.g., 1230am (the 21st) EST. Here is his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/PrayForPastorSaeedAbedini
You can Google search and verify that Pastor Saeed Abedini has been in the news lately, so this is a current situation.
New persecution situation in the world-wide news now: Rev. Saeed Abedini, a U.S. citizen, may face the death penalty for evangelizing the Christian gospel.
71.101.33.73 (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New persecution situation in the world-wide news now: Rev. Saeed Abedini, a U.S. citizen, may face the death penalty for preaching 

message: Case examples:
* In Feb 2012 she claimed "Iran court convicted Naderkhani to death". Despite dozens of sites followed her, it proved as false.
* In Dec 2012 she claimed "Iran re-arrested Pastor Nadarkhani on Christmas Day". Again, it proved as false.
* In Dec 2012, after all propaganda about Nadarkhani was proved as false, she started with new and almost identhical story about "American pastor Abedini being imprisoned without notice of charges in Iran". Some media follows her again (her article is the oldest one), and many activists would like to include her agenda here in encyclopedic article, but it doesn't follow WP:NPOV and WP:RS.
She's a political activist, daughter of Iranian political emigrants, apologist of former Pahlavi dictatorship. She even wrote article supportive to Saudi Wahhabi monarchy against Iran . We wish good luck to mrs. Daftari with her political agendas, but she should know that encyclopedia isn't place for that. --109.165.148.54 (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea what you are saying here - she did not edit the article. You've also been warned on your profile talk to stop disruptive editing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.169.22.29 (talk) 16:51, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propaganda by [[Lisa Daftari]] (FoxNews) 

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message: What does this sentence mean?  "Christians of Iran have played a significant part in the history of Christian mission."  It is unreferenced so no context.  It doesn't seem to fit the linked article "Christian mission". --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: In most of the article, we are quite careful when describing each Christian group and their position in Iran. It appears that most of the older groups are tolerated there.... Syriac, Oriental Orthodox, Chaladean Catholic, etc.
When it talks about "persecution" of supposed converts from Islam, it doesn't mention that this is to completely artificial Protestant sects created in very recent times, originating mostly in the United States (such as Assemblies of God) and Britain. Some of these groups are strong supporters of Zionism and have shady political connections to those aforementioned powers, who may be hostile to Iran.
You do not get a sense of this at all from reading the article. There are very legitimate reasons to be wary of some of these sects as thinly veiled political fronts, for national security reasons. We need to make clear that this is not like the Saudi Arabia situation. Claíomh Solais (talk) 08:50, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No doubt you will be producing solid cites for this proposed change. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need clarity on Anglo-American Protestants sects