Talk:Belgarion

message: :Category:Fictional magicians is wildly inappropriate in this setting. The term magician, in this setting, is highly derogatory when applied to sorcerors. ("Magicians" are demon-summoners.) I realize that the category simply implies magic-users, but it gives the wrong impression in this case. Is there anything better we could use? Aranel ("Sarah") 18:39, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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message: There have been more than three people/beings being able to touch it without being destroyed. To my recollection, Belgarion, Eriond, Geran, Aldur, Torak (first time), Belgarath and Poledra have touched it without being destroyed. Comments? 81.228.195.119 10:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it means currently. When Torak cracked the world, the Orb could only be touched by Riva Iron Grib and his line. Since the Gods have left the phyiscal plane and Torak was destroyed, the only people who can touch the Orb are Belgarion, his son Geran and Eriond since he is a total innocent.Wild ste 15:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The part about the Orb letting only the lineage of Riva and those who are totally innocent isn't quite true.  Belgarath casts scorn on the "total innocent" idea in Belgarath the Sorcerer (I don't have that book with me, so I can't cite the quote), although not everything he says in that book can be taken at face value.  The Orb essentially lets whoever it wants to touch touch it.  However, I don't think Poledra ever touched it (in Belgarath the Sorcerer, the Hall of the Rivan King guards mention that Poledra caused it to move to be attached to the shield, not that she actually touched it), and Belgarath only touched the shield when he was moving it back to Arendia (he didn't actually touch the Orb).  On the flip side though, I do remember that Brand may have actually directly touched the Orb before the Battle of Vo Mimbre (either Belgarath or Polgara tells him not to do it as the Orb might affect his mind; the quote is either in Belgarath the Sorcerer or in Polgara the Sorceress, but I have neither book on hand).  In general though, from the standpoint of the Belgariad/Malloreon, only Garion, Geran, and Eriond could touch it (and of course, the mentions of Torak cracking the world with it).  –Pakman044 17:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're forgetting when Eriond touched Poledra/Belgarath with the orb so they didn't have to go away. 72.192.54.23 21:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't have the books to hand at the moment so I can't look it up straight away, but I seem to recall that the orb can be handled by anyone as long as that person is the Child of Light (or of the Rivan line which formed a bond with it). I'll see if I can root out my copies of Belgarath the Sorcerer, Polgara the Sorceress and the Rivan Codex to back that up but if anyone can come across references confirming or denying that beforehand that could be useful. IgorsBrain (talk) 00:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orb of Aldur 

message: Can we use this or is it breaking copyright since it looks like its been scanned out of a book.Wild ste 20:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's ok to use under Fair use, Non-free content.  – Dreadstar  †  20:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: Just a curiosity here folks, but do any of you find it odd that Beldaren has a "bel" in her name? I thought that all of the "sorceress's" got a "pol" for them. Just wondering what all you thought.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lepromancer (talk • contribs) 00:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I did wonder about that myself for a while! I wonder if it has anything to do with the Pol prefix only applying to sorceresses, whereas Beldaran wasn't a sorceress but was still Belgarath's daughter (again, I don't have it to hand at this instant, but I think it mentions in Belgarath the Sorcerer or the Rivan Codex that the prefix 'Bel' means 'Beloved' or something along those lines. I'll look it up). IgorsBrain (talk) 00:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beldaren 

message: Just thought I would point out that Polgara and Dunkirk did have twin children which need to be added to the tree (I have no idea how to do it so if someone could, that would be great).Wild ste (talk) 18:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Tree