Talk:Slang

message: Someone crammed in the unsupported etymology 'shortened language' -> 'slang' as a prank during a reddit.com discussion. Backing out the change unless there's someone who actually thinks it's appropriate. Reference: http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/eozhj/til_slang_is_short_for_shortened_language/c19sfbp  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.5.239.5 (talk) 01:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [shortened language] 

message: Craig Ferguson has for some time been using "slang term" (or, maybe sometimes -- or all the time, for all i'm sure about -- "slang expression") in situations where the only context is his (presumably) just having just used some form of profanity, which someone bleep-censors out (using a pre-recorded fake-foreign-language expression instead of a bleep). He uses it in a brief communication to his producer, such as "Oh, isn't that a slang term?", "[Whassa-comin-a-goin?] is a slang term, isn't it?", or "Oh, c'mon, that's a slang term!" It seemed merely cryptic to me until tonite when he started a robot-dialogue about vampire apes, and speculating that they would eat "blood bananas" (which eventually he paid off by reminding me and perhaps others that blood oranges are real), but, immediately, pointed out that " 'blood banana' is a slang [whatever]". Oh, OK, an erect penis is full of blood and banana-shaped, and suitable to a vampire ape; i get it now. And this enhances the convention that Craig is a perverse, or free, spirit engaged in a constant struggle with Standards and Practices in order to show the audience a good time -- which requires him to constantly push the limits to learn what counts as overly explicit and what as socially acceptable use of slang.    So, i'm out of it, never mind that. Is "slang term" or "slang expression" currently often used to label a superficially neutral phrase as a vivid double entendre that you'll get with a moment's thot? I haven't thot thru whether anything about that would be encyclopedia-worthy, and my perusal of the previews of the first 100 Google hits on 
: "Craig Ferguson" "slang term" OR "slang EXPRESSION"  producer OR censor OR showrunner
merely gave me a concrete definition of "badonkadonk". Anyone have any thots?--Jerzy•t 06:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  CraigyFerg 

message: :at which time it usually comes to be regarded as mainstream, acceptable language (e.g. the Spanish word caballo),
I don't understand this.
Is caballo used in English?
Meaning what?
Or are you meaning the Spanish slang (cheli?) caballo (i.e. ":wiktionary:horse", heroin?
--Error (talk) 00:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No. The point is that the Spanish word caballo (meaning "horse"), along with its cognates like French cheval, began as a colloquialism. But now it's the standard Spanish word for "horse". garik (talk) 00:49, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is of course no such point. One may say that when it appears in mainstream dictionaries without mention of it as slang it has definitely become a non-slang word - but obviously the actual change is gradual as connotations shift and usage becomes more frequent.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:23, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That said, it's not clear that caballus was ever slang as such, and we already have a clearer example of the same phenomenon with "mob" in the same section. I've therefore removed the paragraph, although the whole section is a jumble that needs a serious rewrite. (The same could be said for the article as a whole.) garik (talk) 02:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caballo 

message: This page is being improved by a group of UC Berkeley undergraduate students. Overall, the page lacks a definite analysis of slang's social function. Our focus will be to bring sociolinguistic notions into our analysis of slang. Since the current page lacks an updated understanding of the sociolinguistic factors that influence slang, we feel that this effort is necessary and "chill".
--Warrenmcbieber (talk) 23:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As the first group to improve upon an already existing page, I was impressed with the changes you made. The sociolinguistic additions in particular, like the section on Indexicality, are well done. However, I would have liked to see more in the section on the Formation of Slang. I think it's an interesting concept with many possible ties to sociolinguistics and language change, but one that is a bit underdeveloped on your page. Frannieu12 (talk) 01:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, you may not know, but you should add new topics to the end of the page, and nest your comments using colons (which I've taken the liberty of adding). In any case, I agree that your work has been good and that more on the formation of slang would be nice. garik (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is very clear and concise. That being said, I think the Indexicality section could benefit from quick definitions of first, second, and third order indexicality, as most people probably aren't familiar with it. Other than that, the page is very interesting and accessible. EmmaKylie (talk) 01:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I feel the organization of this page is a little confusing. Some suggestions as to how to improve the structure might be: 1) Merge Distinction from Colloquialisms and Jargon (Section 1.1) into Defining Slang (Section 1), 2) Rename History (1.2) to Etymology, 3) Rename Formation of Slang (Section 2) to Slang in Sociolinguistics. In regards to Defining Slang (Section 1), even when citing multiple pieces from the same source, the bullet items should all be uniformly cited rather than just citing the last item. Under Formation of Slang (Section 2), instead of referring to just "Coleman", it'd be more informative to start off with something along the lines of Julie Coleman, Professor of English Language (which if you look at the cited sources, you can find, but is not clear otherwise). Agau4779 (talk) 03:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

text:  While I do appreciate how organized the page is and that you had a section dedicated to Indexicality, I think that linking to the Indexicality page is not clear enough. Perhaps you could elaborate a bit on what Indexicality is and what it means for sociolinguistics, similarly to what we did in class with t versus aspirated t. I also enjoyed the mention of 1337 speak, though I had never heard of AOL Speak referred to as Chat Room speak. /me shrugs. 600|) j0|3 0|\| (Good job)! GvargasLing150 (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fall 2013 Improvement Effort 

message: Nicely done! Only one point that I thought could use some clarification- in the criteria for "defining slang," the last bullet point seems ambiguous. It says that slang forms are used to avoid discomfort or "by further elaboration" I'm not sure what this refers to, so perhaps you could add an explanation or link another article if it's a technical term that's just not immediately familiar. Tinydancer.egreen (talk) 17:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Did you mean this to be in the #Caballo section? I assume not, so added a new section heading. I agree that that's not very clear. I'll see if I can improve it. If not, we can probably do without it. garik (talk) 01:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further elaboration? 

message: Chinese people use the term "slang", sometimes in a countable form, e.g. "slangs" to describe the differences between Chinese "dialects" such as Cantonese and Minnan / Hokkien and Written Chinese. These are words like copula words, pronouns, negations, and even grammatical constructions that extend from the basilect all the way up to the acrolect in the spoken language, but are not used in Standard Written Chinese. I would add a section about this, but as I am not a scholar, I do not have good reputable sources to back up my statement. Any linguists want to fill this in?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8:3F80:DCF0:642D:85AD:6314:3AB7 (talk) 17:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The use of the English word "slang" to define grammatical / lexical differences between Chinese "dialects" 

message: In school, one of our English teachers told us that the word “slang” was short for “sloppy language.” (See “shortened language” in article.) Felicity4711 (talk) 07:12, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of the Word “Slang”: Alternative Etymology 

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