Talk:Mewtwo

message: Presently, there are one too many unsourced categories here. "Pokémon anime characters", "Fictional clones", and "Super Smash Bros. fighters" are fine because the article does reference these bits. The rest seem to be here for the sake of it. Thoughts before I act? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Alrighty, going one by one:
*Fictional monsters: it isn't one? Pokemon anime characters does cover human characters in the category as well, so that cat can't be included into the monster one.
*Fictional characters who can fly, Fictional telepaths, Fictional characters with accelerated healing: covered in text body under characteristics.
*Fictional hypnotists: not mentioned yet, but mind control is a theme applied to him in manga and anime versions of the character readily, so it seemed a good fit.
*Fictional mutants: Getting rid of this one. Fictional genetically engineered characters works better, as it is genetically engineered (and oddly Fictional clones is not under it for some reason...)
*Video game bosses: not referenced yet, but appears as an optional boss in several related titles, and the final boss in others.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Did a few changes . Kung Fu Man, the article refers to him as a psychic, so why was he placed in :Category:Fictional telepaths? See, :Category:Fictional psychics would have been more appropriate. And the boss one was somewhat referenced so I left it.  Everything else is fine now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: There's something wrong here. Why is Koji Yusa listed for voicing Charizard and not Mewtwo? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's that idiot that keeps adding fake references to Charizard films that don't exist. Looks like it wasn't caught till now and just almost got snowballed in instead.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 08:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Made some adjustments . I take it that 90.209.160.253's contributions are all vandalism edits? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I rollbacked one, but couldn't make out if this and this was vandalism. What do you think? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They're fake as well. The guy that's been doing this has been for some time, with the edit summaries saying things like "Trey Parker" or "Matt Stone". None of the stuff he's adding exists.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nailed it, thanks ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article's infobox 

message: I saw the katakana spelling of mewtwos name and Im pretty sure it's not spelled right. Instead of a tsu theres a shi. Should I go ahead and fix it or just leave it as it is?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.150.113 (talk) 21:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, those two look very similar. I'll go see. Tezkag72 01:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mewtwos katakana spelling

message: You know, now I don't quite understand why :Category:Fictional characters with accelerated healing was taken off of here. When User:Jc37 removed it in November, he hinted that the character had to have been "human". How come? Godzilla, Ryoko and Hellboy aren't human, yet they're in the category. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a bit confusing to me as well. I'd be up for adding it back if there aren't any objections, since the category shows to have the capacity for it (over a third of the characters aren't human).--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. And another thing, I've been trying to find a reliable reference to support an inclusion of :Category:Fictional telepaths but can't seem to find one. I can't even decipher what technique he used to manipulate Nurse Joy in the first Pokémon movie. Was it hypnosis or mind control or something else? It's probably akin to what he did near the end of the movie. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the difference between the movies may be the problem there, they changed a *lot* in the US film. Brock's reaction in the US film to Mewtwo talking is "It's psychic!" while in Japanese he shouts "Telepathy!" As for Nurse Joy he simply states after freeing her he took her to take care of him, but that she wouldn't remember anything, then adding "Humans can be manipulated in any way with my power." So it seems to imply mind control over hypnosis.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:26, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good find. Do you think you can cite that information in? This way, the telepath category may also be included. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Alrighty, added the citation for telepathy in with the original Japanese (a prior stink over using translations had been raised by User:A Man In Black, so trying to avoid that again).--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the assistance. Hope we can make this a GA sometime in the near future ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification needed 

message: There's not really anything about his role in SSBM, and only one mention of "we wish he was in SSBB". There's probably reception of his role in it. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There'll be reception sections in the main SSBM and SSBB articles, and one review somewhere is bound to comment on it. Tezkag72 22:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I found several comments on Lucas' role in SSBB (which helped me build up Characters in Mother 3), so I reckon I can find something on Mewtwo. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I sort of hate how they removed him from the game too, I guess it was to try and get in more recent pokemon like Lucario. (Who I use as a main.)--Blake (talk) 01:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion of Mewtwo in SSB

message: When did this happen? Mewtwo is defineatly not one of the best Pokémon articles. It is also missing alot of information, such as its big roles in the movies it stared in. Mewtwo still needs alot of work before it goes anywhere. --Blake (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask the editor that did it. Also I undid your edits for a reason: still working on the article, just need it as it is to expand with minimal hassle.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I did it. I think the article seems reasonably complete. More info is necessary for its roles in the films in "In other media", but otherwise, I don't really see why it shouldn't be listed as B-class. And it is definitely not in need of "urgent attention". Tezkag72 (talk) 03:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mewtwo is definitely the best Pokémon species article we have (even better than Pikachu). The appearances section does need to be expanded, but the article easily passes the B-class criteria and is close to GA status. Nice work (to whoever worked on it)! :) TheLeftorium 13:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-Article 

message: Do we have any reliable sources to cover that event in any degree related to this article?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokemon Live 

message: I suggest ignoring the dubious advice from the GA reviewer, the current picture is illustration enough and a second fair-use image is hard to argue. Hekerui (talk) 14:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: No more fair-use images

message: Wow.  For someone who doesn't know a thing about Pokemon it was actually very informative.  I was a bit leery of possible weasel words/phrases when I started reading, but thankfully a total Pokenoob like myself understood what I set out to understand.  The article is well sourced, they're all reliable, and it's well written.  If I had to pick two problems I'd say
*The lead technically doesn't need the first reference as it's cited elsewhere, but following the spirit of the rule it's perfectly fine there, as it supports ref #2.
*MewTwo's image could probably use alt text.  If I recall that's required now.
Once the alt text is added I'll pledge a support vote. --Teancum (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Alt text is in, sorry for the delay been busy.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-Class assessment 

message: I think something's missing here.. well, it may be that it was cut in the american show, however, in German TV, Mewtwo's Escape from Giovanni's lab was shown in the series (don't know if it was the first or the second time, Ash and Co. arrives in Vertania City). So even if it was not known at that point (long before the premier of the first movie), it IS the first appereance Mewtwo made.
--78.94.227.91 (talk) 19:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mewtwo's Appereance 

message: I added the image at right to the article to support the cited text in the article about the plane: "Mewtwo also appears on the port side of All Nippon Airways's Pocket Monsters Boeing 747 jumbo jet, alongside Mew."
It was reverted as there was 'no need'.  Per WP:BRD, I'm beginning a discussion.  I feel that as this is not a fair use image, the non-free criterion of 'significant understanding' (which I interpret 'no need' as referring to) does not apply. I feel this free image supports the text in the article and should be included. --Malkinann (talk) 00:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It adds nothing to the article though, not to mention that Mewtwo is barely visible on it. What makes this bit of advertising any more significant than any other in that it requires it's own picture? Nothing at all.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It adds visual interest to the reception section and is an appropriate illustration of Mewtwo's reception, supporting the text in the article about the plane.  Given that the plane has been noted by not only the airline but a third party source, it is more significant than other advertising of Mewtwo.  Perhaps more direction is needed in the caption to point out Mewtwo, but that is not a reason to not include this image in the article. --Malkinann (talk) 01:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mewtwo plane image 

message: Alright, so I was doing a Google search, and I realized that Giygas, as he appered in Mother, looks very much like Mewtwo. should I put this into the relevant articles? Bonelayer12864 (talk) 01:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. That would be original research. かんぱい！ Scapler (talk) 01:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. But you shuld try looking it up on google images yourself. Bonelayer12864 (talk) 02:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

text: That would not be enough since it would still be our own personal interpretation. The only way that could be added is if reliable sources have commented on the similarities between the two characters or the person who designed Mewtwo explicitly stated that he based the design on Giygas, in which case it would be added to the Design and characteristics section.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 02:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey Guys! Mewtwo looks like Giygas! 

message: Just saw somewhere they'll be doing something with Mewtwo in the next gen of the series. Not sure how reliable it is but here's a link to a photo that I saw. http://25.media.tumblr.com/713d9ca39675ffd4c4931963381ebc0d/tumblr_mkuwajWrHg1qit38ao1_500.png  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt723star (talk • contribs) 23:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Omg! So is this information relevant enough to be added somewhere on this page or do you think there should be a page separately created for the new Pokemon? --Matt723star (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd wait until more information comes to make an article for it. Its currently nameless and type-less so there is not enough information on it... Mrmoustache14 (talk) 22:35, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: New look?

message: Doesn't Mewtwo also appear in Pokémon Origins, based on his character portrayal from the games? 152.27.20.9 (talk) 17:43, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Added it. Thanks, Blake (Talk·Edits) 18:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for adding it.  Though I think it was more based on Red and Green/Blue than FireRed and LeafGreen, but I guess it technically is both, seeing that they use the FR & LG design for Red and FR & LG is basically Red and Green version remakes anyway. Either way, thanks for adding it.  Also, it seems Mewtwo's personality, as I said before, seems more like he was in the games, being savage and aggressive. 152.27.20.9 (talk) 18:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, because FRLG is a remake of RGBY, if you say "based off FRLG", you are basically saying "based off FRLG AND RGBY". However, saying both is sort of redundant :) Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:22, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought so.  Though I guess I only mentioned it for the sake of keeping some consistency with the Pokémon Origins page.  That's all. Thanks. :) 152.27.20.9 (talk) 19:28, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokemon Origins 

message: In Pokémon X and Y, Mewtwo holding a Mewtwonite X or a Mewtwonite Y can have higher base stats total than Arceus. http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/150.shtml#mega Would it not be important to mention it?
:No. This is not a video game guide to say who has better stats than other Pokémon.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:49, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Mewtwo Y 

message: What reasoning is there that nonphysical messages embedded in a forum post cannot be considered a source even when the material has clearly irrefutable information?  How else can I provide this evidence, then? 68.198.70.54 (talk) 19:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the fact that the source is unreliable trumps the accuracy of the content. Generally speaking, if it's irrefutable information, it's either covered in reliable sources or is gamecruft, which shouldn't be here even if it is correct. Supernerd11  Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 13:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forum posts as a source 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Mewtwo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100620001743/http://newport.academia.edu/documents/0009/2577/MERGEDPOKEMON.pdf to http://newport.academia.edu/documents/0009/2577/MERGEDPOKEMON.pdf
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on Mewtwo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120308163314/http://www.pokemon.com/us/ex/mewtwo to http://www.pokemon.com/us/ex/mewtwo
*Added archive https://archive.is/20130126002900/http://stars.ign.com/objects/142/14234083_biography.html to http://stars.ign.com/objects/142/14234083_biography.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091113150542/http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/review/473 to http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/review/473
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Mewtwo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080508234951/http://www.cmdstore.com/pokemon-battle-frontier-action-figures-deluxe-electronic-series-2-mewtwo.html to http://www.cmdstore.com/pokemon-battle-frontier-action-figures-deluxe-electronic-series-2-mewtwo.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:40, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Mewtwo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110604040336/http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/cl-movie000406-143,0,6593417.story to http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/cl-movie000406-143,0,6593417.story
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:52, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Hello. I read the following phrase:
It was also said to be under a truck in one of the cities, though it had ended up as a trick.[25]
Apparently, someone just get a misconception of the reference. The link there (which actually doesn't give any explicit text about the phrase) just redirects to The Pokémon Company marketing site about a brief description of Mewtwo. Moreover, that reference points our to the suppoused glitch about Mew, a hoax that widespread during the localization of Red/Blue in America and Europe. So, I propose to remove that part and add it in Mew article instead. Thanks. --«[Gtr.]» Errol 06:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a improvement... 

message: I made an edit regarding the fact that in the main series games, Mewtwo was created by a lone scientist and not a team of researchers, as evidenced by Pokédex entries from Red/Blue, LeafGreen, X, and Shield as well as the fact the Pokémon Mansion Journals use singular pronouns in Japanese with the plurals being added in localization. Someone has undone this edit. I feel that my edit should be restored as it shows in important difference in the canon of the games compared to the anime and similar adaptations which present Mewtwo as created by a team of researchers. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? MewtwoRBGY (talk) 22:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel the sentiments of the reverter are shared by me here. The information isn't really too relevant and a minor detail of Mewtwo's backstory overall, and the information itself needs a reliable source (Which Tumblr is not). Given the fact in-game sources have said multiple things, it might be a decent idea to say something along the lines of "a scientist or a group of scientists" but again, it needs a reliable source discussing this difference in scientist number. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I have additional sources that confer with the fact that the original Japanese indicates only one scientist such as this, TheGamer, and Bulbapedia. It is a minor detail, but I feel like it is important to note if only for the fact to point out the differences between the games and anime, especially since the anime's backstory for Mewtwo seems to be the only one ever considered. I think the fact that Mewtwo was created by a rogue scientist instead of a group as most adaptations show is notable detail even if only for the fact to show the differences between the canons. MewtwoRBGY (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: TheGamer should suffice for this, though TCRF.net and Bulbapedia are not reliable. I believe an in-line note would likely be the best course for this to avoid bloating the text. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Added the note, please let me know if it is not up to standards. MewtwoRBGY (talk) 23:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I honestly still feel this is trivial information and best to Keep It Simple, sorry.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean, I'd argue it's sensible to be factual about it, given the current description is inaccurate given what's been brought up. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only One Scientist 

message: I was thinking that it would be a good idea to put pictures of Mega Mewtwo X and Y in the Appearances section since they do appear somewhat frequently in various games and it would just be nice to show them in the article itself. I am wondering if anyone has any objections to this or if you also think it would be a good idea. MewtwoRBGY (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Evolution Pictures