Talk:Long Beach Polytechnic High School

message: The notable alumni section is getting out of hand because how notable do you have to be in order to be a Notable Almui.
Someone needs to come up with a strict criteria, or maybe there's already one, that deals with Notable People. I say this because alot of the names on that list have been edited in and out ever since this article has existed and some of those people I have never heard of and cannot find information saying that they even attended Long Beach Poly High School. 
So if we have some kind of test we can apply to former students it would help clean up the list.
Manorin (talk) 09:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Alums getting out of hand

message: According to http://www.nndb.com/edu/836/000080596/, only four of sixteen notables are confirmed alums.  Would somebody be able to add citations for the other.  Otherwise, I think they need to be removed.  --Rob 17:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: NNDB is a beta website, and I've found it to be of limited usefulness. I would not use it for deleting any information from this or any other article. BlankVerse 08:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If nndb.com is completely unreliable then we need new sources for *all* alums, or else remove all.  Is that what your suggesting?  I'm unclear.  Currently, there's no sources for most alums here.  I'm not suggesting nndb.com must be the source.  I'm using nndb.com as a reason to *keep*, not as a reason to *delete*.  --Rob 12:19, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying NNDB is completely unreliable, but that there are huge holes is their currently not that comprehensive database. I don't think there is any one-stop source for alumni. I've seen problems with birth cities and other data in IMDB, and IMDB rarely lists high schools. There is one source for baseball atheletes that is great and identifies high schools, but I've misplaced that link. BlankVerse 19:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really sure if we even have a difference of opinion (or ever did).  We agree nndb is just one of many sources of alumni.  We agree nndb is incomplete.  I've often had to go to multiple sources to verify a list of a school's alumni (actually, I always try multiple sources).  If nndb didn't list any names, but all the names were listed elsewhere, then that would also be fine with me.  But, one way or another, every name has to verified somehow.  That's all I'm saying.  Do you agree that there has to be *some* source for each alum; and that without a source, it must be removed (after all source attempts fail)?  That's really my whole point here.  Also, if you find that baseball alum source you mentioned, please add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools#Notable alumni sources.  Also, feel free to add any comment about the reliability or non-reliability of such alum sources there, if you think its worth noting. --Rob 19:24, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I acknowledge there is some backing of some names here, and you've added greatly to that by adding that baseball link.  So I'm not removing anybody this second. In fact, I haven't even had a chance to research each individual name, which is what I would need to do, before removing them.   I'm not in some mad rush.  As for the larger problem of unsourced alum lists, I agree its a widespread problem.  I'm just one person, and I'll fix 'em where I can.  I have removed a number of alumni from a number of lists.  I've been looking through a *lot* of alum lists as I've standardiezed the section name to "Notable alumnni" (which is how I noticed this article), and periodically remove names (a number of cases are blatantly absurd).
As a Poly grad of '63 I know the John Wayne citation is wrong - I believe he went to Glendale High.Ronk0424 19:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add citation or remove some alums without sources

message: Due to ongoing edit/revert warring the article has been protected from editing until the issues are resolved please discuss the issues. Editors can also use  to request non controversial changes. Gnangarra 03:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Article has been full-protected once more for edit warring and content disputes.--Flewis(talk) 09:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, why did I full protect the article? *scratches head* I'll drop it down. BJTalk 19:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: BJ, please keep an eye on this situation as it is likely to need to be upgraded to full protection again. This article has been targeted for some time now by both SPAs and IPs trying to force in that slab of text you removed twice. They ignore all messages left on their talk pages and return regularly simply to restore that slab of "factoids". It looks like within hours of Dumbbot removing the prot tag when the last protection expired, they started up again with edit warring, so please do keep an eye on things and restore if the full protection if the edit warring by the SPA accounts continues. Cheers, Sarah 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got it watchlisted, if any SPAs popup again I will block them. BJTalk 01:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, much appreciated. Sarah 02:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article protection 

message: I grew up in Long Beach and graduated from LBPHS.  My parents are both college professors who teach history, so I have a lot to offer Wikipedia about the area.  Is new content supposed to go here in discussion for review first?  It's so hard to know what the etiquette is.
Kind regards,
VikingUsurper  —Preceding unsigned comment added by VikingUsurper (talk • contribs) 02:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can edit the article if you want to but Wikipedia only accepts verifiable material that has been published in reliable, third party sources. We do not accept original research or first hand knowledge, so please be careful to provide sources for information and not to add material that other editors can't verify with reliable, published sources. I will post a welcome message on your personal talk page which contains links to some introductory pages you might find helpful. Please also remember to sign any messages you post on discussion pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thanks, Sarah 04:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New to Wikipedia 

message: PACE stands for Program of Additional Curricular Experiences and is not whatever was highlighted before.  Just FYI.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.3.152 (talk) 06:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  PACE 

message: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/05/11/top.high.school0516/ is the overall SI article about the top high schools in sports and http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1111276/1/index.htm is the more in depth article on poly. Could someone please add the citations into the poly page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdybens (talk • contribs) 04:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports Illustrated Citation 

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message: Please keep controversial section intact, as school administrators can attempt to remove it. Although the school seemingly has a lot of positive qualities, parents need to know about how safe a school is. Thank you. Rockenthusiast1979 (talk) 18:56, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: According to Carl Weathers' page, he graduated from St. Augustine High School in Louisiana.  I didn't edit the LBPHS page because there may be two Carl Weatherses, or the Weathers page may be wrong.
Camerajohn (talk) 06:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's possible this is correct, or it may be that other people have made the same mistaken assumption. He was born in New Orleans but moved to California. Some online sources say he graduated from St. Augustine High School in New Orleans (1966) and others say he graduated from Long Beach Polytechnic High School (1966). I can't find a reliable source so I'm not going to touch this. Meters (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carl Weathers is an alumnus? 

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message: Can we get a consensus on whether Snoop Dogg is an alumni? I've removed him from the list multiple times. He transferred to Jordan High School his senior year. I've deleted him from the list before, but he's back up this time with an inaccurate source. It's plastered all over the internet that he graduated from Poly now because all journalists do is check Wikipedia. It just seems weird to mention him as an alumnus even it meets the definition, if he didn't actually graduate from Poly. The most common understanding is that you're an alumni if you actually got a diploma from a certain school. 
Edit: found a pic from the Trailblazer https://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/flashback-celebrity-yearbook-photos-slideshow/snoop-dogg-photo-1377820832462.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.0.114.13 (talk) 03:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:ALUMNI. It does not matter if he graduated from this school, as long as he attended. The ref currently in the article is not very good, but there are multiple reliable sources showing that he attended. Stop removing his entry. Meters (talk) 05:35, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snoop Dogg did not graduate from Poly