Talk:Native Hawaiians

message: To the anon editor: If we must list related people there must be some logic to it. Adding the Chamorro people - just one people out of the many Micronesian peoples who are related, albeit distantly, to Polynesians and therefore to Hawaiians, is not justifiable. Why single out the Chamorro for special mention? Kahuroa (talk) 10:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Chamorro as related

message: Do any statistics exist on the percent of Native Hawaiians in each religious category? If so, they should be put into the Demographics section.  Duoduoduo (talk) 14:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it only list their religion as Roman Catholic and Protestant. I highly doubt there are any other Hawaiians of other denomination and religion. Especially some Hawaiians who still believe or reverted to believing in the old Hawaiian polytheistic religion.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion statistics?

message: There is a reference to King Kalakaua's "Legends and Myths of Hawai'i" about Pa'ao. That work never mentions that Pa'ao was from Samoa and Pili (Piri in Tahitian) is also a well known chief from Ra'iatea.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.108.192.13 (talk) 04:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pili 

message: With at least one exception, this article does not capitalize the "n" in "N/native Hawaiian" (except of course in the name of an organization or at the start of a sentence). Maybe I missed it, but I can't find any previous discussion of this. In standard English orthography, names of ethnic groups are fully capitalized: Italian American, Inuit, American Indian, Native Hawaiian, etc. Without the capital N, it conventionally means someone who was born in a place: native South Carolinian, etc. I think it should be changed everywhere in the article to N. I'll leave it to you guys who frequent this page to consider this.  Duoduoduo (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization of N/native 

message: I don't see why we need a separate article for this. The other article is a stub, and everything it describes seems to concern Native Hawaiians. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 07:47, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't see this until now but no. I support inclusion here in its own section but just because it pertains to Native Hawaiians does not mean it is not a notable enough subject for a stand alone article or that it must be segregated to this article. The subject does indeed pertain to more than just Native Hawaiians. Please begin a formal AFD if you feel the article does not comply with notability guidelines for a stand alone article.--Mark Miller (talk) 21:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't intend to go to AfD; withdrawing merge proposal because the article has been expanded. Thank you ! QVVERTYVS (hm?) 08:11, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you . I appreciate your patrolling of new articles. In the future I will remember to try and publish the articles in a more fully formed fashion.--Mark Miller (talk) 16:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[US federal recognition of a Native Hawaiian nation]] 

message: first, i made basic editing corrections on this page without realizing that it has gone through some past issues with edits/reverts/reverts/reverts, etc.  sorry about that.  i try not to just go into "editor" mode on articles with that type of history. i'm fairly certain i didn't make any changes that are "controversial," but i'm just noting it here, in case someone wants to look closely. the "quick summary" i typed in was quite accurate.
however, i DID have a question on this section (as titled here).  mainly, there's the section title, then the section begins with something in early 2000s, talks rather extensively about that bill, then goes to a poll done in 2003, and THEN a poll done in 2009 about who does and does not support the "Native Hawaiian Reorganization Act of 2009."  (as opposed to the "Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2009"??)  but it doesn't say what HAPPENED to the bill?  did it pass? if so, when?  if so, what was the vote?  if so, what has happened since then, i.e., has there been any "higher taxes to cover any loss in tax revenues," as 3/4 of people were worried about??Colbey84 (talk) 09:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization Act of 2009 

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message: The section Emigration was deleted without discussing a possible improvement or extension of examples. Because emigration is an important fact in the intercultural relations between Hawaiʻi and other parts of the world it should be mentioned in the article. --ThT (talk) 15:39, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emigration 

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message: "Evidence for a Tahitian conquest of the islands include the legends of Hawaiʻiloa and the navigator-priest Paʻao . . . ."
Isn't a "legend" the antithesis of "evidence"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mt98765 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Legends" 

message: The article says there are 527,000, but then in the next paragraph it says there are only 371,000 people who are wholly or partly Native Hawaiian, of which 156,000 are exclusively Native Hawaiian. Adding those figures together gives 527,000, but you can't add them because one is included in the other. I don't know which is right. Richard75 (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the citation. Page 15 says "There were 156,000 people who reported Native Hawaiian with no additional detailed NHPI group or race group and an additional 371,000 people who reported Native Hawaiian in combination with one or more other races and/or detailed NHPI groups (see Table 5). Thus, a total of 527,000 people reported Native Hawaiian alone or in any combination." I've corrected the article to say this. Richard75 (talk) 11:48, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory figures 

message: This article is seemingly lacking in indigenous points of view especially about the dispossession of land by agri-business (Dole pineapple company) as well as the mass incarceration of Native Hawai'ians. Moreover, this article fails to mention any of the current anti-colonial protests of the past and present, including the most recent protest to prevent the construction of a telescope and observatory on a sacred site of Native people. There needs to be more to address both the military-industrial complex and prison industrial complex that has come to define life for many Native Hawai'ians as well as shifting the narrative to that of the Native Hawai'ians who live there. Ultimately the article seems to lack any meaningful organizational structure that makes it both logical and inviting, which is a disadvantage to the historically underrepresented NAtive Hawai'ians whose struggle and culture is often erased and/or misunderstood. Finally, more images both historic and contemporary are needed to give context to this article in order to highlight both the current existence and current struggle of Native Hawai'ians whose existence and overall survival depend on the continuation of their culture. Finally, I hope that this article can delete the comments about the Hula which seem to have a connotation of pro-assimilation which violated Wikipedia guidelines on impartiality. 
https://olywip.org/native-hawaiian-mass-incarceration/
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/08/hawaii-imprisons-native-islanders-at-astonishing-rates-this-election-could-start-to-change-that/
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/07/27/disparities/
https://nypost.com/2019/07/15/activists-protest-telescopes-construction-on-sacred-hawaiian-mountain/
https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/08/mauna-kea-is-the-latest-in-a-long-history-of-native-hawaiian-protests/
Caquaile (talk) 16:23, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Caquaile, Thank you for improving this article. It did seem to miss out on a lot of historical events, most notably the 1893 overthrow of the former Hawaiian monarchy. By the way, you mentioned that comments about Hula had a pro-assimilationist attitude. Could you specify what you meant by that and which lines you were referring to? Mahalo. — Coastaline (talk) 04:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Additions and Changes Necessary For Accuracy and Representation  

message: Hi! I think your article was very well written with a good amount of information on your topic. However, I do think that your lead section could be more robust with slightly more information added as well as a bit more information on the shorter sections within the articles as well - or even maybe joining it to a different section. Also, adding some more pictures would help as well! But, overall I don't see any other issues, a pretty good article overall! Emilyc12345678 (talk) 23:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review 

message: I never heard of Hawaiʻi Maoli.  Any sources as to where this is now commonly used?  Not in my decades living have I heard of such a term, and we know it does not exist in any of the Hawaiian newspapers which I'm sure someone has been at least looking through. 99.23.241.79 (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have also never heard of “Hawaiʻi Maoli”, not as a Hawaiian myself nor by cultural practictioners nor in academic circles. It is grammatically correct, but we have other autonyms for ourselves that are consistently used and recognized words for our identity. These being: kānaka maoli and kānaka ʻōiwi; these terms are plural. Anhedonia2 (talk) 04:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaii Maoli 

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