Talk:2006 Indian anti-reservation protests

message: Since our entire knowledge of the anti-reservation protests come from the media, it is appropriate, I believe, as has been done in countless other Wikipedia articles that the views of those who believe that the media reporting on this issue is particularly biased be recorded.
Ashankar 14:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No original research please. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Photos have been added. Exactly the kind of which I requested for. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by AShankar

message: In the section on the events of the protests, the reference to "selfless contributions to the society" is opinion, not fact.
"Mr. Shailendra Kumar Mishra. Mr. Mishra went on a three day hunger strike to protest against the same, finally giving in to dehydration. His selfless contributions to the society were later translated into a Public Interest Litigation filed at the District Court of Guwahati City." He is alleged of having ties with BJP.
99.141.98.147 (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to "selfless" 

message: "The government took stern measures to counter the protesting doctors by serving them with suspension letters and asking them to vacate the hostels to make way for newly recruited doctors." Should this read hospitals? Also, what is the HRD? I don't think that acronym is spelled out anywhere.
Could be hostels. These are medical students living in hostels. deeptrivia (talk) 05:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hostels?

message: This article could really do with a good once-over in terms of organization, clean-up and trimming down things not directly relevant  to the protests.--Pharos 07:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization 

message: The whole background section needs to be seriously trimmed. Refer to other articles about the caste-system instead of explaining every painstaking detail on this page. Besides that, all the information about the scheduled protests are also superfluous. This is not a place to announce demonstrations. Mackan 08:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of information deleted by you is actually an integral part of the article. In its current state, this article isn't justifying why its titled "Indian anti-reservation protests, 2006". Although the details need to be copyedited, I feel that a lot of it needs to be added again. I will copyedit the delted text myself so that its doesn't sound like announcing demonstrations. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Ambuj.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: true, but the article is totally unreadable... it needs trimming not in terms of information but in terms of ordering and compactness. Pulveriser 10:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid this is probably true. The article was created in an un-organized manner and needs to be extensively copyedited so that the flow is smooth. Unfortunately this isn't easy as the editors here have to deal with a lot of vandalism going on since the article started. I am working on the issue and hopefully things will smoothen in time to come. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maybe a registered user can move some of the stuff on historical information to the Reservation in India article. And use this article to focus on the protests 64.229.25.76 11:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sounds like a good idea, but you don't have to be registered to do that. Go ahead.Mackan 14:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is way too large 

message: After a lot of edit-conflicted edits, I think the article is decent enough and quite legible. Irrelevent data has either been deleted or moved to the Reservation in India page. Still, there is a need to expand this article especially the "Current protests" section. Hopefully things will improve more in days to come. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I had put details of current protests, which have since then been deleted. Please put it back, I think this article is primarily about the current protests. Background can be covered in more detail on Reservation in India. deeptrivia (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. The current protests (as Deeptrivia initially put) should be reinserted, however, in a summary form - not all those small subheadings. Could you people try to change the flag image to any of the protest images, in the main page? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes. They need to be put back. They were deleted in this edit. However, a copyedit is essential before the details can be added in the article. Please go ahead with adding the details. However, I feel that the overview is sufficient and only thoughtful additions should now be made as this article is about protests. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I have put the events back in a paragraph form. I still think they should have been arranged in sub-sections, either city-wise or date wise. deeptrivia (talk) 06:31, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I strongly agree. The article is legible but still not very readable though I oppose sub-sections on the basis of dates and perhaps even cities. Wikipedia is not a reporting agency. Pulveriser 15:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The current paragraph style is okay for now. There are many more events to come, so it might become unwieldy later. deeptrivia (talk) 15:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things look decent now 

message: "Most  pro-reservation protestors  belong to the SC/ST or OBC category, but include some upper caste people, who support reservation."
Removed this since it is speculation and bias speaking. There is no way to know exactly who composes all the protest rallies. I bet a large number of pro-reservation protestors are the ones who would benefit from it but you can't with certainty that there are no so-called "upper caste peopple" in there.
144.89.103.25 14:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope there are indeed people belonging to the upper castes supporting the pro-reservation movement.  The shame on India social system would be less paining to witness.
It would be good if someone can find a picture of the pro-reservation protests. That would hopefully balance the picture-bias in this article in favour of the anti-reservationists. --Bluerain 07:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually the no.of pro-reservation protests are atleast 10-20 times less in number. a kind of "proof" is a comparison of the online petitions for and against reservation... see  and  both are google caches since the original sites seem to be down/slow. The cache is pretty old since there were 21,000 signs in the anti-reservation petition when i signed it (which was a looong time ago) and 216 on the pro-reservation one (which was a week or so ago). half the signatures in the pro reservations petition were anti-reservation wise cracks insulting the politicians... 203.200.95.130 13:14, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro-Reservation Protests

message: The criticism of the media bias theory stated facts, not claims, such as the fact that pro-reservation rallies were being covered and the fact that debates were held in which both points of view were discussed. Why delete it for a citation needed claim? Doesn't that make that part of the article POV as it doesn't cover both the views? siddharth 05:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of media bias 

message: "The Anti-reservation protests, 2006 currently taking place all over India" all over india i beg to differ. The northern areas are opposing the amendment more vehemently than the southern areas. Pulveriser 16:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The reservation protests are taking place in the south also. The intensity of the protests may differ.siddharth 15:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed it does differ. in fact the following article states that there are minimal protests in bihar  see the fourth heading. Pulveriser 16:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beginning of the article 

message: Not to be nitpicky, but I don't think the word "qouta" has a plural ("quotas"?) -- Bartosz 18:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You claim to have a PhD in theoretical physics yet you don't know that nouns can be made plural. Where did you get this PhD, UC Berkeley? *sigh* Only on Wikipedia. Haizum 19:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quotas -- Haizum 19:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's personal attack - gross. Should control, man.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only on Wikipedia is debunking a lie a personal attack. Haizum 00:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Debunking a lie is NOT personal attack. Someone may not know something or may be wrong at something. That does not mean you should attack/question his credibility. Of course you should make the correction. And English grammer is not a matter of joke, everyday even people with English as mother tongue do errors (and those for whom English is a foreign language do so more). Regarding your comment that nouns can be made plural is not always true. There are some nouns that are inherently plural. As I am weak in English grammer, I cannot remember any example thogh!(probably "asset" is an example, so is "people") You might be knowing better. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I said nouns can be made plural, which is a perfectly true statement. Haizum 20:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And you are still completely wrong; "assets" and "peoples" are both correct plurals. Haizum 20:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I knew I was wrong! (I admitted I am weak in English grammer). And the way you replied is just perfect. It was not a personal attack. But on the earlier instance, you did a personal attack on Bartosz. It was just to show that debunking a lie is not a personal attack. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Exactly. Unless of course you have a PhD in theoretical physics, then you might not know that. Haizum 17:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: It already is plural. A "policer" is the singular form. Haizum 21:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Webster, "police" as "a force" is singular, and has no plural. "Police" as "members of such a force" is construed as plural. AFAIK, there is no English word "policer".
"Quota" is trickier. My initial impression was that it's already plural. In fact, according to Webster, there is a word "quotum," which would be its singular. But Latin quota is not plural-- it's some other grammatical form of quotus, which isn't even a noun. So one might argue that quotas is indeed the plural of quota. -- Bartosz 03:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

text: This article is written in English, not Latin.  Quota is an English singular noun. Plural - quotas.  Accept it, move on. HenryFlower 11:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: I'd like to appeal to whoever edits the page in the future not to add too much info to the Historical Background section. This article is about the current protests, and thus should have more info about that. Historical background is well documented in the main article - Reservation in India. The intro, as it is now, seems fine to me, though we need a citation for the 'independent political panel'. Also, to those involved in the protests, please don't use Wikipedia as a forum for spreading your views - there are many other forums available on the net for you to do that. --Bluerain 07:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I dont agree. I have readded the proper into again.Magicalsaumy 11:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro, background, bias, etc... 

message: Does the "In the news" on the main page work strictly like a FIFO queue? Many events in that section above this one are one-time events that are not current any more, while this one is still very much an ongoing event. I think it will be a better idea to remove those events first to make place for newer ones rather than this one. What is everyone's opinion? deeptrivia (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. siddharth 17:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely agree. We've seen earlier prolonged stay of certain news events in the "In the news" section. Gurubrahma may be contacted for further clarification.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends. Things like tsunami/earthquake stay for a week almost. Also, it depends on other news stories. However, I recommend we keep changing the blurb in the "In the news..." section to keep it fresh - for example, fasts, immolation bid etc., so that it stays on that section and remains fresh. When you make such a suggestion, also mention that free pics are available etc. On a different note, we should also try for other interesting stories like the kid Budhia not being allowed to run etc. --Gurubrahma 05:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In the news" 

message: I find the remark about "backward groups" racist. The whole discussion about what foreign powers might take advantage of disturbances in India has is not NPOV and is highly speculative. I propose to remove the whole "Foreign Reaction" section. -- Bartosz 03:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racism 

message: I heard that the protests by the medical students has ended. Is this true? siddharth 18:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Strike at hospitals has been withdrawn. Hospital works will resume from 8 am , 1 June. However, students' protest will continue, along with necessary demonstrations. Also, demonstrations from the part of non-medical students are set to be more agrressive.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay umm, I think all protests have pretty much died down... I think its time to edit the intro to reflect tense... bheekling 10:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  End of protests

message: I don't find any POV in this section, and all the sentences seem to be cited. We can remove the POV template now.--Anupamsr 10:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the POV would come from whether these should be included in the first place or not. They are mainly those points that have been cited by anti-reservationists. If there is a reason for them to be included, it could only be under a section that talks about the arguments for and against reservation, which is presently not in the article, and IMO rightly so, as that wouldn't come under the scope of this article, which is mainly about the 'protests'. --Bluerain (talk) 07:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Population Statistics

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message: I think the 'See Also' section should include hyperlinks to civil rights movements and to affirmative-action or equity laws enacted in countries elsewhere. Nandofan (talk) 23:32, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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