Talk:Bajoran

message: Is Lt Ro Laren actually a notable Bajoran?  Yes, she was featured in DS9 (which makes her notable as a fictional character on a TV series) but as a Bajoran (to other Bajorans, in the Star Trek universe, and not to people watching the show) she is completely un-notable.  She's a mid-ranking officer in Starfleet, a member of the resistance (one of millions), and not particularly important as an individual. 72.137.187.50 (talk) 02:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Bajorans 

message: Michael Pillar's comments are in reference to "Ensign Ro", a fifth season episode of TNG. They do not in any way describe the "situation", however they do describe that particular episode.  These comments have been removed since they are inaccurate in the context of this article, as those comments refer to a particular episode and not to the Cardassian/Bajoran conflict in general.  The user is welcome to add those comments to an article about that episode. --Viriditas  | Talk 10:36, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by Michael Piller

message: More to the point: The producer, Rick Berman, explained that the Bajorans were not modeled on any particular group: ‘The Kurds, the Palestinians, the Jews in the 1940s, the boat people from Haiti—unfortunately, the homeless and terrorism are problems in every age’ (TNG Companion, p. 178).18:59, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Great quote.  If you can provide more context that would help. --Viriditas  | Talk 01:25, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by Rick Berman

message: The whole article needs citations. I don't know the series well enough to know the episode titles off the top of my head. --Fang Aili  說嗎? 15:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: I think it's worth noting that millions of Trekkies agree that the Bajorans are idealised Palestinians and the Bajor/Cardassian conflict is a mirror in many, many ways as to that of the Palestine/Israeli conflict.  The P/I conflict is the only instance in human history that is anywhere near similar to the B/C conflict and is quite visibly a comparative whether intentionally or not.  This is backed up by thousands of websites that discuss the topic in depth.  211.30.71.59 15:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep.  A fantasy version in which the United States (the Federation) does the right thing by siding against the occupiers instead of lionizing them because of a grotesque view of identity politics. 147.9.177.90 (talk) 20:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm afraid this comparison doesn't really make sense at all, as the Cardassians in Star Trek were occupying the Bajoran homeworld itself, rather than re-occupying their own homeland. The analogy would work better if the story had been that the Cardassians had left Cardassia Prime several thousand years ago, during which time the Bajorans had colonised the planet; then the Cardassians came back to reclaim their ancestral homeworld and in so doing oppressed the erstwhile colonizers. This is not the story we are presented with, however, so it seems odd to claim the story is analogous to the real world Israel/Palestinians conflict.--129.11.13.73 (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Palestinians

message: Stubby article that should be moved here. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 06:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge Bajoran Resistance here

message: Yet another stubby article about the Bajorans that deserves about a paragraph in this one to strengthen it. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Circle merge here

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:KiraNerys001.jpg

message: One of the first citations in the current version of the page is producer Rick Berman's comments on real-life analogues to the Bajorans, taken from p. 178 of 'Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion'
The quote in its full form has been present on the page since 2005:
"The Kurds, the Palestinians, the Jews in the 1940s, the boat people from Haiti—unfortunately, the homeless and terrorism are problems in every age"
However, at some point over the years "The Kurds" was removed, leaving it as a list of three analogues. Then, on August 3rd 2017, an unsigned editor replaced "the Jews in the 1940s" with "[...]", erasing one of the three remaining analogues from the middle of the sentence. Hence the quote now reads:
"the Palestinians, [...] the boat people from Haiti — unfortunately, the homeless and terrorism are problems [of every age]."
This strikes me as a fairly clearcut case of POV editing, or at the very least a rather bizarre convention if the page is going to directly quote any of Berman's statement at all.
I realize I could simply undo the edits but I wanted to see if everybody, particularly more experienced editors with accounts, was on the same page about this. I propose the quote be restored to its original form or just deleted entirely and the citation applied to the previous sentence (which states the Bajorans were 'likened to a variety of ethnic groups' by the writers).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.5.182 (talk) 15:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it was corrected for about a year but for some reason in October 2021 an IP removed "in the 1940s" without explanation. Should be fixed again. 73.38.7.120 (talk) 00:47, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been corrected again Dec 11 2023. Babeswayscaptcha (talk) 04:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to Berman's Comment 

message: The section Religion > Hierarchy states: "A new Kai is elected by the Vedek Assembly". This seems to contradict the section Politics > Kai which states: "The Kai is chosen in an election held by the entire Bajoran people" Soji Asha (talk) 21:14, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kai election