Talk:Angelina Jolie/Archive 2

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:57, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: Hey, whatever. I have seen maids in my country who are a million times prettier than this Angelina Jolie... thing.
On regards of the gay pride thing: Personally, I wouldn't feel any pride on talentless people like Angelina "pig liver lips" Jolie being gay.
Oh, by the way boys, I'm male and heterosexual. So, I'm not biased, just stating what her marketing team wont allow you to think.
: Hey - to each their own, but it's a matter of public record that she usually tops magazine polls in these categories, so her marketing team doesn't really have much say in those matters. Her good works with the UN will remain long after her looks begin to fade, and I think she knows this. Personally I expect her to retire from acting to go full-time into humanitarian work one of these days, although as she herself has said the money she makes from movies has made it possible for her to do her work, so one compliments the other. 23skidoo 12:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's fair, just as numerous actors have been named "Sexiest Man Alive" by various magazines. If you can cite a magazine and year, please go ahead. 23skidoo 19:26, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Is there any positive reason for the inclusion of this pointless section on the talk page?    It adds nothing to the discussion and wastes space.  -Kasreyn 10:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, personally I do feel she's one of the loveliest women I've ever laid eyes on (though it's a tossup with Audrey Hepburn!).  But the claim is very subjective and unless it were sourced by a very broadly-distributed survey I'd be against including it in the article.  In any case, the article has pictures of her; the readers can see how beautiful she is on their own.  Kasreyn 16:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's too difficult to find a third party source referencing her in this way. 23skidoo 16:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Why?  Don't we have to justify the inclusion of the article on grounds of notability?  What could be better justification than the widespread belief that Angelina Jolie is very beautiful?  Her humanitarian work and acting talent are also notable, but in general, in terms of people's awareness of her, she is an icon of beauty and sex appeal.  Shouldn't we portray that?  Kasreyn 03:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most beautiful woman? 

message: I heard she was pregnant with both kids.  But others say no.  I can't find any info on a google search either way.  212.0.138.94 00:18, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is substantial media coverage of the fact that she adopted Maddox and is in the process of adopting a second child (I don't believe this process has been completed yet). Jolie says she has no desire to become pregnant as long as there are orphans out there. 23skidoo 15:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adopted or Pregnant?? 

message: I added the category "Cambodian people", as I read in a magazine about a month ago that she had a Cambodia state membership approved. I also removed the category "Gay, lesbian or bisexual people", as it is covered by the category Bisexual actors and Gay icons. However, I must say that I find these gay categories to be very biased – there is no heterosexual (normal, only about 1 % is gay/bisexual) counterpart. Jon Harald Søby \ no na 10:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: …And checking the talk page first is a good idea. Bah. Jon Harald Søby \ no na 10:17, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed the Gay Icons category as it's meaningless. We know she's bisexual because she has said so and I believe it's a subcategory of "Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual" anyway, so good call there. But "Gay icons" could apply to anyone and it's POV to place her there. It appears the category itself stands a good chance of being deleted, anyway. 23skidoo 15:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: She had plans of adopting a Russian boy(mosnews.com)7 month old Gleb from baby house 13 but gave up on this. Later adopting Zahara from Ethiopia.
Poor kid!!!
He's still only 3 and he does not still realize what a great life he missed with such a famous celebrity for a mum and the she flirts with famous guys like Pitt,he has narrowly missed a life of luxury.
Shouldn't someone tell her about this,I mean what she did was wrong right,one day he's supposed to be the son of one of the most famous women of all (besides Oprah,Rowling and Britney) the next day he doesn't know if he will be adopted at all.
Current sources state that he's still at the orphanage awaiting adoption.
: If you really want to discuss this sort of thing here, feel free. Just remember that to do so in the article itself without citing reputable sources and using personal language violates Wikipedia's NPOV guidelines. And don't tell me she's any different than any of the other people who adopt -- you can't adopt everyone. What, for example, is your proof that "she wanted Zahara more". I know people who have adopted children from out of country -- hell, I've written newspaper articles on this very subject. And there are so many factors involved it's not even funny. Again, unless there is a reputable source (forget tabloids) to provide detail, for all we know there was a lack of compatibility with the Russian boy, or the orphanage made unreasonable demands or (and this happens all the time) the government just said "No." 23skidoo 05:21, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that she adopted her oldest child with Billy Bob Thornton and now Brad Pitt is adopting the same child, will her next husband get to adopt all three or will Brad be allowed to remain father of the biological one?  Jtmichcock 00:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you assume there will be a next husband?  Just curious.  I wasn't aware that she had some sort of "love em and leave em" reputation.  -Kasreyn 11:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian son 

message: I do not know if Jolie owned a pet rat snake or a pet rattlesnake.  There's been a number of changes back and forth on the page today, however, changing between the two.  I hope people know that it is entirely possible she owns a rat snake as this is a real type of snake.  Also, imdb's page, although notoriously unreliable, states that she has a pet rat snake, NOT a rattlesnake.  A google search seemed to indicate a lot of sites think she has a rat snake but they may all be using this very article as their source.  --Yamla 17:56, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snake 

message: Is The National Enquirer really a reliable source? I'd like to have that confirmed before we label her bisexual. I've never heard that elsewhere. --BDD 07:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The National Enquirer is most certainly not a reliable source.  Feel free to revert unless someone can come up with a decent source for this claim.  --Yamla 16:25, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Check her interviews for other magazines. I believe she has made this statement elsewhere. Also I believe the biography that was published on her a few years back also made this statement. I'd remove the Enquirer citation however I do believe if someone were to do some research they could easily find an alternate. 23skidoo 16:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the recently-added Barbara Walters quote should fit the bill, though it didn't need to be in the lead paragraph so I moved it down. There was a follow-up quote added that I removed because it wasn't sourced (the one about falling in love with a woman). If someone can find the source for that quote, please feel free to put it back. 23skidoo 17:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bisexuality