Talk:Gran Turismo 4

message: Anyone ever notice that there seems to be a general bias towards American cars in the game? There is exceptions, but it seems that most of the American cars are sluggish is most respects when compared to other cars in the same class.
:With respect to many aspects of performance and reliability, American cars tend to pale in comparison to those manufactured in Europe and Japan, as a general rule (compare them for yourself).  The game designers were just being realistic, IMO.  However, I think this discussion is better placed in a gaming site, not here.  This is an encyclopedic resource, and all of this unfortunately falls under the category of OR, and therefore has no relevance to the article. Eganio 00:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  If only the manufacturers had taken note, eh? The point is true, and it's worth mentioning, if only in a sidelong manner. Something along the lines of "Rather than restrict the in-game vehicles to those sold in each market in which the game is sold, players are given the freedom to experience driving in cars uncommon or absent from their own market". Or maybe not. Just a thought.--Rfsmit (talk) 19:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias toward American cars? 

message: I noticed I had used "AI"  ("Artificial Intelligence" or "Artificially Intelligent") in reference to A-spec points, without an explanation, but I was not the first to do so.  I can't decide where to define it to what degree, or if it's even necessary these days, so I'm just making this note here for consideration.  Simply linking to AI (Artificial intelligence) could be considered, but might not be totally appropriate.  And the AI or Artificial intelligence articles might take strange twists in future, meaning they wouldn't give a confused reader a succinct idea of what was meant.  Is linking to artificial intelligence (wiktionary) acceptable practice in wikipedia?  Presumably if this problem, it applies to other articles in the Gran Turismo "family".--SportWagon 17:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think using AI for explanation is alright.  If the proportional significance of video games with regard to the meaning of AI ever peaks and ceases to merit note in the introduction of AI, then the term AI itself will no longer need any explanation.  At least that's my forecast. :-) ENeville 20:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, I only now see that there is Game AI, but I think that's a poor title and the article should be moved, probably to AI (game). ENeville 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AI used without explanation? 

message: We should perhaps mention 250 point challenges.   That's why I didn't rv that edit myself. Also, we don't make it clear that events giving same A-spec points aren't necessarily equivalent.  That's mostly because your score is based on all cars in the field, not just the second-place one you must beat in order to get any points. I allude to this when I say "after a large number of events".  But I can't think of a clear way to say any of this right now, let alone deciding how encyclopedic (or even NPOV) it will be.--SportWagon 18:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-spec points 

message: Under trivia, it currently says...
*In the game, the American Pontiac GTO 5.7 has more horsepower than its Australian version, the Holden Monaro, despite the fact that they both use the same engine.
That point has a bit of an interesting history.  I don't see the point as worth mentioning, really.  Originally someone appeared to imply it must be mistake that there is a horsepower discrepancy, but I would say 328 versus 350 could be due to the type of tune done for the type of market.  In the heyday of American muscle cars, you'd get more variance than that when the cars rolled off the line, based on the semi-random nature of tuning under assembly-line conditions.  Some portions of the history suggest maybe some think it worth mentioning merely that the "The American Pontiac GTO 5.7 is also available in the game as the Australian Holden Monaro".  I could agree with that, although if voting, I'd vote for simply removing the entire point.  I am also totally ambivalent about mentioning the horsepower discrepancy.
This trivia isn't needed.  The Holden Monaro at the time (2004) had a lower tuned version of the LS1 (245kW/333hp) to the Pontiac GTO (261kW/350hp).  The LS1 engine was deliberately tuned up by Holden for the GTO.Mr. Pointy 17:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting point, and I know this is 2.5 years late, but the GTO is the US market version of the Monaro, so it would be clearer and more accurate to say "The Australian Holden Monaro is also available in the game as the American Pontiac GTO 5.7".--Rfsmit (talk) 18:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GTO Trivia Should Be Deleted? 

message: *One reviewer expressed disappointment about some open top cars, except those that came with a foldable roof which can only be used in single-car time-trial or photo-shoot mode and cannot be raced against other cars.Bytesector review URL accessed September 26, 2006
Bytesector claims to be coming back on October 1, 2006.  That's currently over a month ago, but, in any case, who knows whether the referenced ancient history will come back with it?  But the attempts by people to qualify the criticism have resulted in a silly sentence.  I'll remove ", except those that came with a foldable roof" since it is covered by "some", but I can no longer track down the review to re-evaluate the paraphrase of the actual criticism.--SportWagon 22:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead (dormant) reference to somewhat silly criticism 

message: Someone edited to suggest there was a Cr900 used car.  My guess would be they have bought a Cr3600 used car which would then show a garage value of Cr900.--SportWagon 23:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cr900 Car? 

message: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=89457
--SportWagon 20:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valencia not in GT4 

message: I clarify the concept here, at greater length than is suitable for an encyclopedic article, to help editors decide on the virtue of recent edits related to this subject
(More specifically, with respect to the following revision).
GT4 was the first in the series to allow you to take your car to be tuned at somewhere other than the "dealer" you had purchased it from (or would have purchased it from, in the case of a prize).  (Prior to GT4, ie. in GT1 and GT2, used car lots were themselves part of each dealership, selling the one make only).
All games (1-3) did feature cars tuned by independent tuning companies.  Spoon in particular.  (And HKS Drag cars for sure in GT2). I'm pretty sure there was at least one Spoon car (Civic Racer prize) in GT1, although it wasn't labeled as such.  But you still couldn't take your car to an "independent tuning company" for parts and tuning in GT1 to GT3.
That said, the "independent tuning companies" in GT4 are pretty bogus.  The prices and results are the same as the dealer tune-shop, with the exception of the occasional extra parts (usually suspension or turbo), which parts will be identical between all of independent tune shops which will provide parts for the particular car.
The parts selection really has not changed much since GT1.  And, all this said, it's not clear the independent tune-shops in GT4 are all that important a feature.--SportWagon 22:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent Tuning Companies 

message: In the discussion section you have read how, in the past, it was pointed out not all game articles even leave themselves open for abuse by having a criticisms section.  In any case...
:*GT4 insists - like its ancestors - on treating the player as a dangerously retarded dimwit who has never seen an automobile before and doesn't understand the concept of driving. To start playing the game, the player once more has to go through a series of "licence tests". The first four of eight of these involve simply pressing the accelerator and brake buttons (no steering required) in order to drive up a short stretch of track in a straight line and then stop within a marked area.  . . . All you're left with is a series of increasingly annoying trial-and-error guessing games, discover that this doesn't stop you in time, then restart the test and try again until you find the right point for that particular model.
I don't see how you can believe a phrase like "dangerously retarded dimwit" is possibly NPOV.  And yet, apparently, one might conclude you are a dangerously retarded dimwith because you don't apparently find the tests easy to accomplish.  In any case, the encyclopedic version of your rant is simply Some players do not like the requirement to pass license tests before proceeding with the rest of the game.  Period.  And you need to find citations for that.  Yes, the stopping and starting tests are largely, if not totally, irrelevant to the racing aspect of the game.  Again, find a citation.  Further, the license test criticisms arguably belong only in the main Gran Turismo (series) article, since license tests are common to all the games.--SportWagon 22:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad to see a criticism of the license tests hasn't survived here, because starting and stopping are absolutely crucial to getting a good lap time. It's a racing simulation, so training on the controls, in lieu of the feel of a real car, is absolutely necessary. (Anecdotally, I've achieved gold in most of the tests on each of the main games, and it really did improve my racing style.) Knowing when to launch, and when to change gears; and where to brake and how hard, make a huge difference to whether you win or lose in tight races. Same with cornering.--Rfsmit (talk) 18:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non NPOV non-encyclopedic criticisms 

message: Perhaps see deletion of GT4 car list page.
(Also the similar deletion of GT2 car list page)
In any case, the list was not formatted properly.--SportWagon 23:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lists tend to border on fancruft anyway.  They should be created very sparingly, as they tend not to augment Wikipedia's encyclopedic resources, and become useless effluvium of interest only to a select few readers. Eganio 00:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for removal of Car List 

message: Well, you inspired me to take some pictures of the Trial Mountain monkey, verifying that it is there in GT4.  I'll get them webified soon.  (I probably should set myself up a commons account).  I saw and photographed the boat; it's actually closer to the other end of the straight before the final chicane, near the corner at the bottom of the hill.  I have a context shot for it, too. I didn't see the Loch Ness Monster.  Is that perhaps at Midfield?  But I couldn't remember how to see over the fence to see the lake at Midfield.--SportWagon 05:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, pics.  Those will definitely be nice for verifiability.  Nessie is all the way to the left side of the lake beyond the fence there on Trial Mountain.  Took me a bit of work to see it, but it's there.  I haven't messed with photo mode much, but I'll see what I can do. — Wwagner 22:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Perhaps see-also http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=63864 --SportWagon 21:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh well.  At least you managed to keep Jay Leno.--SportWagon 14:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trial Mountain Monkey 

message: As I played through the game, I encountered quite a few minivans in the game. Among them, the Renault Avantime, Toyota Caldina and probably a few more. Therefore I suggest changing the phrasing from "GT4 was the first of the series to feature a production minivan, the Honda Odyssey." to "GT4 was the first of the series to feature production minivans such as the Honda Odyssey." Thoughts? -- Gingiba 23:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The two examples I'd call station wagons rather than minivans.  As far as the Odyssey goes, the wiki article calls it a "crossover SUV", which isn't quite a minivan.  The list that seems most "minivan-ish" is the large MPVs in the minivan article - which does list the Odyssey. — Wwagner 03:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honda Odyssey not only minivan in GT4 

message: I was wondering if Initial D references should be in the trivia section. What I'm talking about is the Shuichi Shigeno Trueno. There is also an Integra and Civic (sold under Spoon in the game) that look similar to two featured in the manga/anime. Now I can't say for sure if the Integra and Civic are straight out of the series, but I know for sure the Shuichi Shigeno Trueno is a direct reference.
24.143.224.158 02:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial D References 

message: While I won't revert edits which are done to turn lists into prose, (true, that should go without saying) I cannot possibly give much help to such an effort (even apart from my other time constraints), because I think list organization is often a fundamentally good way of presenting information to readers.  Well, I might do an occasional "move into a paragraph elsewhere" where it seems obvious to me (I've actually done that before).  Perhaps I should try and find rationale behind the "no lists, only prose" guideline.  So I'll search, but pointers to such would be welcome.  Perhaps it has to do with translatability?  I.e. perhaps non-prose lists are less acceptable in other languages than they are in modern English?  A final note.  The  Criticism section, while formatted as a list, is actually a list of prose paragraphs.  We could make it "not a list" by simply removing the formatting.  Since the tagger didn't just do that, however, I suspect that wouldn't be sufficient.--SportWagon 16:54, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about that.  I actually contributed.  Maybe.  I just removed the list formatting from  Criticism and corrected the single non-prose point to be a sentence.  Others can decide if that is sufficient for this section.--SportWagon 16:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I found Wikipedia:Embedded list.  It says there are places for lists.  One could argue the criticisms section would be better as a list, but it would then require an introductory "parent" paragraph.--SportWagon 17:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prose Tag 

message: It is not true that porsche cars are not included in the game. RUF is, in fact, porsche.
          The article said that RUFs were built on a porsche chassis. Look at the discriptions in GT3 and it explains that under the bodies of the two manufactureres are comepletely different parts. RUF is, in fact, NOT porsche.
:No, RUF is RUF, based on Porsche, but not Porsche itself. —Mr Grim Reaper (talk • contribs • email), 21:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism : porsche  

message: I just edited the note about PC steering wheel compatibility with GT4.  I own a Logitech Formula Force GP wheel, and it works fine for me with all PS2 racing games I've played, including GT4. --Mikehild 18:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the addition, but we don't really need to start building a hardware compatibility list in this article.  The game officially supports the Driving Force Pro and GT Force wheels; a list of other devices the game doesn't officially support, but happen to work anyway, seems a list of barely discriminate information.  To that end, I've removed the rest of that paragraph. — Wwagner 22:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PC Steering Wheels 

message: Somebody started a short list of car "classes", and has included a few examples of each "class", at the end of the Vehicles section.  I won't deny that the wide selection of cars is an important part of the game, and there is some detail given to it in a couple other places in the article.  However, I've seen lists like this expand to fill any available space, and this one seems poised to do just that.  Please be aware that there have been 3 "list of cars in gt4" articles in the past which were deleted:  the first, the second, and the third.  Such lists don't get any more encyclopedic with time, I'm afraid.
On this same line of thought, the "list of cars you can't race" is getting a little out of hand.  I tried a little copyediting, but it's still pretty ugly.  Perhaps the real solution is the remove any discussion of specific models that are unraceable, and simply say that complex models are unraceable.
I'm going to remove the "list of car classes" section, and try to rework the unraceable cars discussion.  Hopefully I can streamline it a bit. — Wwagner 23:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of cars 

message: I've seen lots of comments that the AI is really bad and will just blindly run into you to stay on its preprogrammed racing line.  As I do real racing in RL, I thought I would point out something about this.  What I have found is that the AI will respect you and change its line to avoid hitting your car when you are making a legitimate pass.  But if you're somewhere you have no right to be, it will take you out into the dirt where you belong.  And RL racers will do that, too.  It seems to me that most human players expect the AI to drive off the road and surrender positions to avoid contact with the player as they swing their car around wildly on the track to make inappropriate passes.  And it just doesn't.  Therefore, it's "stupid".  But real drivers will punt idiots off the track, too.  Normally, drivers who don't know how to pass and be passed aren't allowed on the track in the first place.  That's what racing licenses are about.  Anyway, the AI isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than people give it credit for. 24.23.231.54 06:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I don't race in RL, but given a bit of thought, I came to the same conclusion; but this criticism is widespread. Maybe there's a quote somewhere from a notable racing driver we could use to support the rational view. In lieu of that, something from the manufacturer as a counter to criticism would have to do. (Same applies to damage to vehicles and furniture, and pit stops, but last time I checked, it wasn't called "The Real Crashing Simulator".)--Rfsmit (talk) 19:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: AI isn't as bad as that

message: The following had been listed as "trivia", and so was removed:
*Advertising for GT4 was a task for the two teams to complete on the reality show The Apprentice.
It does seem that is more than trivia.  It indicates either a relatively high social profile of the GT series, or an interesting aspect of Sony's overall publicity campaign.  In either case, it's sort of "GT4 in the non-gaming world".  But, true, I looked for an existing part of the article into which that fact could be wedged, and failed to find a suitable place.  P.S. The trivia-avoidance "Tracks" section needs fleshing out.  I should help.  Again, some of the facts currently there relate GT4 to the real world non-players know.  Complete descriptions of all tracks would probably be fancruft, however.--SportWagon 16:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apprentice episode indicates social profile, or something 

message: Someone seems to be requesting screenshots, but wasn't another screenshot recently removed, presumably for copyright reasons?--SportWagon 01:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That image was deleted in August due to  CSD 6.  Which suggests that writing a viable non-free use rationale is more important than the screenshot itself.--SportWagon 17:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently the deal is that you have to write a rationale for every page where the fair-use image is used.  But hey, that's no big problem; the previous images simply put the  licensing tag, but didn't write the rationale.  I was going to try making a few screenshots, but I just haven't had the time yet.  I was thinking maybe one of the 1889 cars somewhere, and another on one of the street tracks, and one with some traffic around a turn somewhere.  Maybe a sweet drift on one of the dirt tracks would be nice too? — Wwagner 17:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshots? 

message: Does this game really support 1080i? How is this even possible? I think it should be removed, until it has a source.
* I Think u can do it on NA (NTSC) only.91.107.43.72 (talk) 17:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  1080i 

message: Make links on SDTV, EDTV and HDTV, At top right of page. Please.   16:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  S/E/HDTV Links 

message: Did you know...
that there are four secret black race cars hidden in the Used Car Showroom halls? Two are in Used Car Showroom I, one is in Used Car Showroom II, and one is in Historical Car Showroom, I think.
Regards, The Unknown Soldier (talk) 14:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your Random Fact Of The Day From AddictedSoldier 

message: I assume what is meant by, "including the Nissan GT-R Proto, thus becoming the first video game ever to feature it. You can win it by achieving the International "A" license", is that you must claim gold in every license test in order to acquire it, not just attain the license (I have certainly never won a car myself by virtue of doing merely that). MRacer (talk) 10:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nissan GT-R Proto error 

message: Hey, I am just adding a segment on the background music used here. I will try to update it until it is complete. Mind, it is only for the US version that I know of. If you know anything about EU differences, feel free to add segment. 66.41.109.141 (talk) 23:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music OK? 

message: The three smaller GT4 articles need to be combined into this article. They seem to be nothing more than other versions of this game, with one of them having no release date. And looking at the size of the articles: GT4 = 26.1, GT4M = 5.29, GT4O = 5.95, 5.01 - about 41.35 combined, a common sight for a significant game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 04:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: "This game has also been criticized for the high percentage of disc read errors. It is believed that many of the older PS2s have problems, as well as early slim models"
Does anyone have a explanation of this statement? The cite-note no. 34 does not work, thus qualify as a dead link. Junk Police (talk) 23:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disc read error? 

message: Anyone noticed that the Mitsubishi Eclipse GT in the game has a model year of 2006? Noting that the game was released in 2005?!? Explain, if you can, or note it in the article. I think it has enough relevance to be included. 2D Backfire Master (talk) 17:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really the place to ask, but I am guessing the car release maybe the early 2006 (GT4 itself released 2005) so it may be an small error. Junk Police (talk) 00:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree with both of you. It's an irrelevance, in that: it's not a high profile car, and it probably does represent the 2006 model year, given that cars are released in the year before their model year, and spend several years prior to that in development. Finally, this is the forum for discussing points for inclusion in the article. That's why it's called a "discussion" page.--Rfsmit (talk) 19:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronism? 

message: In the "Vehicles" section there is a paragraph on vehicles of historical significance, which refers to the early vehicles such as the Daimler Motor Carriage and Ford T Model.
The issue is that there is a suggestion that one would add turbos and nitrous oxide to these vehicles to keep them competitive with newer machines.
I'm not sure if this is just trolling but it seems quite firmly in the boundaries of what is ridiculous. This would certainly not work, for obvious reasons, if it's even possible(?).
A further matter if the comparison of the Daimler Motor Carriage to a Castrol Tom's Supra (a seemingly arbitrary selection), with 1hp and 464hp respectively, which is just absurd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.83.1.241 (talk) 22:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vehicles of  "Historical Significance" 

message: I changed the reeption sections name to sales because all it does is detail sale information and doesnt post any reviews  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.62.246 (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  renaming section 

message: Recently I played GT4 again to get more photos and collect more cars, but then I notice that during gameplay, when you press the Emergency Brake(or E-brake) button just to drift your car, it's really, REALLY hard to control the car specially when you're in automatic transmission. We should include this problem in Criticism. Rouward (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No we shouldn't as it's trivial information, and applies to real world driving.  E-braking is a technique, that if used properly, can actually improve lap times but it takes an adjustment to your driving style to master it.    ArcAngel   (talk) ) 21:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  E-Brake 

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message: There are quite a few excerpts of negative points and complaints in reviews (criticism section), while no positive ones. I think this should be addressed.
Note: I'm talking about reviews, not the life vs gt4 tests in the 'as a simulator' section. Punkalyptic (talk) 11:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

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