Talk:Radio North Sea International

message: While of course it can always be improved, doesn't mention that RNI renamed itself Radio Caroline International for the 1970 UK general election for example, I have made a good job of RNI, something that at least for the sake of Lockerbie, there needs to be a record.
Sarahdarling 00:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it seems that the Lockerbie affair is about to unravel: see SCCRC.Phase4 21:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lockerbie bombing

message: The article as it stands is virtually unreadable: most of the images are too big and others are too small or irrelevant to the thread of the article.
I'd like to remove as many as ten of the images, if you agree.
Sources are lacking too: do we have anything to corroborate the sinking of the two vessels (Angela and Mebo II in the Gulf of Sidra in 1984? An online reference would do!Phase4 21:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll make a start at thinning out the images.Phase4 20:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've refined and reverted to my last version.Phase4 10:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many images

message: There is no explanation in the article whatsoever for the references to the downed Panam flights, or any of that material in the reference section; and the link with Gulf of Sidra is indeed uncorroborated.  Readers who come here to find out about the radio station will be mystified.  Either the references need to be about something in the article itself, of they should be removed - as should the speculation about the sinking of the vessels.KD
:I fully agree with these comments. The links with the Lockerbie bombing were removed in previous edits. I'll do a new section of the article to bring in and, hopefully, to explain the currently orphaned references.Phase4 09:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No big objection, but I'd just comment that the story is perhaps best dealt with in Bollier's own article or elsewhere here, unless there is some specific connection with the radio station of which I'm ignorant.  If a former director of Radio Luxembourg was involved in this kind of thing, I still wouldn't expect to read about it in an article on Radio Luxembourg.  Maybe a quick comment with re-directs to the right articles?KD Tries Again 15:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Added or copied?RICHARD GEOFFREY ASHTON 20:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References to Flights Completely Incomprehensible

message: I have started one.  Very incomplete.  I hope people will add to it.KD Tries Again 18:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good to see a positive RNI contribution from you, KD. You'll need to run a check on some of the DJs you've added, though. For example, the "Robin Banks" you put in is not RNI's Robin Banks (aka Robin Adcroft) - see http://www.offshoreradio.co.uk/djs7a.htm.Phase4 21:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Presenter List

message: The article contained a lot of material which I've now removed, relating to Meister & Bollier's political activities subsequent to the ships moving to Libya. All fascinating enough, but this article is about the RADIO STATION and not its owners' extracurricular activities except where they impact directly on the station itself. Lee M 13:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of irrelevant material

message: I don't think the source for the target practice claim meets Wikipedia criteria.  In any case, I think the sensible way to deal with the issue is to remove the paragraphs which deal with events long after RNI closed down.  It's not a question of losing the material from Wikipedia - the article will still link to the Mebo's owners, etc.  I think Lee M agrees?  It is customary to try to reach consensus on this.  I'd ask editors to say whether they are for or against.KD Tries Again 20:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd appreciate less of your vandalism, before you next advocate consensus, psycho.--Konalgia911 01:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It goes against Wikipedia etiquette to revise editors' contributions in the way the above title has been revised.  I am going to seek assistance from an Administrator.KD Tries Again 15:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I undid the sockpuppet vandalism in this section.KD Tries Again 14:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Seeking Consensus

message: I have no big issue with the cite for the sinking of the vessels, so the only remaining change I'd like to see is the removal of the links under the See Also heading.  In fact, I think this is where I came in: I still don't see anything which makes the two Sidra incidents, or that specific link about Lockerbie, related to the radio station, to the vessels, or to the article in general.  Please point out if I am missing something.KD Tries Again 14:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I revised the use of the term "ReNaIssance" - cute, but as far as I can see was a Wiki editor's invention, not a term used by RNI.KD Tries Again 16:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The "See Also" Section

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mao1970.jpg

message: Deleted the following paragraph as pov (and ungrammatical):
:Arguably the most popular of all ship-based radio stations, RNI's staff were trained to standards that still, in recordings, convey a palpable warmth, over 30 years after the station's closure. RNI's signature theme, Man of Action by  the Les Reed Orchestra, was also popular.
Lee M (talk) 12:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted paragraph

message: A couple of red links existed for individuals, and have been removed.  If relevant articles are created, they can be reinstated  --Keith 13:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Red links 

message: I have gone through and added a number of citation/references.  These have all been "online" sources:-  Vic Pelli's Book ,  Bob LeRoi's pages , and the  RNI timeline and they can actually be used for most of the refs, interchangeably.  These do not superseed or differ from the printed material, also referenced.  --Keith 16:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and citations