Template talk:Infobox astronaut

message: There is a serious factual error in the template. The individual's nationality is used to determine whether they are an astronaut, cosmonaut, etc.
Unfortunatly, it isn't that simple. For example an American flying on Soyuz is technically a cosmonaut, and a Russian flying on the Shuttle is technically an astronaut. Can somebody sort this out. Thanks --GW_Simulations|User Page | Talk | Contribs | Chess | E-mail 12:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Error with template

message: The type of space traveller is now manually entered, rather than using the awkward and misleading automated system.
To update it, please refer to this table
Previous   	Replacement      	Description
USSR = USSR	type = Cosmonaut 	Anyone who has flown on a Russian/Soviet spacecraft
USA = USA  	type = Astronaut 	Anyone who has flown on an American spacecraft
PRC = PRC  	type = Taikonaut 	Anyone who has flown on a Chinese spacecraft
EUR = EUR  	type = Spationaut	Any Frenchman who has gone into space
AFR = AFR  	type = Afronaut  	Any ?South?-African who has gone into space
Note: The infoboxes as they are now are not always correct, - Americans who have flown on Soyuz are Cosmonauts, Russians who have flown on the Shuttle are Astronauts, Frenchmen, ?South?-Africans, and Malasians, are always Spationauts, Afronauts, and Angaskawen, regardless of what they have flown on. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 20:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't we just use English and call them all astronauts instead of being saddled with a Cold War relic usage (and a number of unused-in-actual-English-language-practice terms). Rmhermen 00:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Because they are not always astronauts. A person who has flown on a Russian spacecraft is as much a Cosmonaut as someone who has flown on a Soviet flight. I am Strongly opposed to the unnecessary Americanisation of Wikipedia, and I feel that it is important that we respect their national identities. This change was proposed, and after no objections were made, it was carried out. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 20:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Isn't this still really misleading though? The first three in the table above are about what type of vehicle one has flown in, whereas the last two are about the nationality of the flyer. What, then, do we do about Mark Shuttleworth? He's a South African/British dual-national who flew on a Soyuz, so is he a Cosmonaut or an Afronaut? Confused! -- Hux 15:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The space agencies cannot sort this out themselves. I've always assumed that the nationality overrides the spacecraft, on the grounds that France, South Africa, Malasia, etc do not have their own manned space programmes. Also, I believe Shuttleworth refers to himself as an Afronaut, so I would use this. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 19:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

text: All this seems quite confusing and unnecessarily complicated. Why would matter anyway what nation the space traveller comes from, or which country spacecraft is used? I can't understand why there isn't a unified term for a space traveller yet, even worse, new names are popping up (like "afronaut"). Even the old names have some peculiarities nobody cares for: "Cosmonaut" means someone who flies to cosmos, i.e. the outer space. So every space traveller satisfies this. "Astronaut" means someone who flies to, or among stars - so far we have none who satisfies this! Not even if we use the stretched definition of stars to include the planets. :arny (talk) 23:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes and how to update 

message: Why does this template say it needs updating? This is appears on hundreds of articles and the supposed problem is nowhere explained? Is this a deprecated template? What is the new one? Rmhermen 00:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Replace | USA=USA with | type          =Astronaut or Cosmonaut - Gdavidp1 02:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Update?

message: This section of the template makes sense for career astronauts/cosmonauts, etc., but is misleading when the person concerned is a space tourist since it wrongly implies they have finished with whatever job they were doing previously. However, I'm not sure how to resolve this problem other than by removing the field entirely. Any ideas? -- Hux 15:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Other Occupations"? --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Have amended "Previous occupation" to "Occupation*" with "* previous or current" as footnote if  instantiated. Regards, David Kernow (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Previous Occupation

message: See these articles: Joseph Henry Engle, Michael James Adams, Mike Melvill, Ulf Merbold, Phạm Tuân, Mamoru Mohri, Chiaki Mukai, Yang Liwei--Nixer 05:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks alright. Could you possibly do ones for Michael Lopez-Alegria and Edward Fincke so I can see how these would be handled. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 11:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No trouble.--Nixer 13:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't Fincke technically a Cosmonaut? --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you read the above discussion?--Nixer 14:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Works for me - I'll let you know if I come across anyone I have a problem categorizing using this scheme. ThreeBlindMice 19:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

text: OK, would two more demonstrations be possible please. Could you do Helen Sharman, and state what you'd do for Marcos Pontes (if you change the latter you'll probably get reverted and accused of vandalising the page.) --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 19:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Helen Sherman officially was a Research Cosmonaut and had a contract with Juno space program consortium (which was also the name of British-Soviet joint mission). Marcos Pontes was a BSA astronaut.--Nixer 21:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do you support this pattern? 

message: Having the Mike Melvill infobox titled FAA Commercial Astronaut implies to me that he flew for or was charted by the FAA as an astronaut. While the FAA awarded him Commercial Astronaut wings, he is a Commercial Astronaut  for / employee of Scaled Composites, not the FAA. This creates another problem though, what will we do for commercial astronauts who fly for multiple companies? Rillian 20:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Agency names

message: The Rank field is being used inconsistently. Most often, it is used for a person's military rank, if they have one. Other times it is used for the person's rank as an astronaut, e.g. Cosmonaut Researcher. And sometimes it is used for a crew position title, e.g. Mission Specialist. Not sure what we should do here other than to raise the question as to why a military rank is relevant to an Astronaut Infobox. And which rank would we use, the rank they held while an astronaut or the highest rank achieved? Rillian 14:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rank

message: Add the status on the infobox. 
Possible words on status: Active, Retired, Dead, Unknown Jer10 95 Talk 05:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited "Deceased" to "Dead" per WP:EUPHEMISM. We should avoid euphemisms like "deceased" and "passed away". --John (talk) 19:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would discourage using this extra field to indicate status is "dead"... You can see automatically in the first line of the article, by the date of death and the use of past tense (as well as in the age field in the infobox) if the subject is alive or dead. I don't know of any person infoboxes that need an additional field to say someone is dead. —МандичкаYO 😜 15:10, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, User:Wikimandia is correct and there is certainly no benefit in adding that a dead person, whose date of death is right there, is also "deceased". --John (talk) 22:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add status pleasse 

message: Being that most astronauts and comonauts earn an amateur raidio license before visiting the space station, so they can use the HAM gear onboard, how about adding HAM callsign information to the template?  The callsigns are easy to find being that ARRL usually publishes whenever an astronaut earns a call sign. --StuffOfInterest 16:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Heck, how about adding their NASA communications call sign, e.g. "Beamer" for Robert Curbeam or "JR" for James F. Reilly? (sdsds - talk) 23:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add amateur radio call? 

message: At what point should the template be updated with parameters for worlds visited (orbital) and worlds visited (surface)?  Admittedly, at present only 12 people have a non-zero value for worlds visited (surface), but hopefully that list will increase. --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 15:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worlds visited 

message: Please link "EVA" in the infobox as most people would not know what it means...
Change
::| label14    = Total EVAs
to
::| label14    = Total EVAs
Thank you 50.100.156.249 (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done HueSatLum 23:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 29 January 2013 

message: There should be a field for spouse. Not all astronauts are single.--Auric  talk 13:33, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spouse parameter needed 

message: This message is to notify you that there is an RfC ongoing on whether to add pronunciation info to , which this infobox transcludes. Your comments on the matter are appreciated. The discussion can be found here. Thanks! 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 17:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC on [[Template talk:Infobox person|Template:Infobox person]]

message: Looking for some input before I make an edit that affects many articles.
In all of the astronaut articles I have looked at, there is an awkward section at the bottom that gives the physical characteristics of the astronaut.
What do you all think of adding those physical characteristics to the infobox? We could do it like other large infoboxes do and have it be a separate section (or whatever it is called). Pretty indifferent to the implementation.
Another option would be to remove the information from the article entirely, but I hesitate to remove that information. It is a bit trivia like to me.
Either way I was looking for some input.
Another set of fields I would be interesting in adding are flight hours and jet hours. I am editing Apollo era astronaut articles right now, and it is usually just awkwardly placed in the article somewhere. Since it is just a number, I think it would make sense to have it in the infobox.
Let me know your thoughts, thanks! Kees08 (talk) 19:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Kees, I'm deeply confused. I just randomly clicked on well over a dozen articles in the American astronauts category and didn't see anything like what you described. Such statistics should be trimmed out of any articles you find them in, unless for some reason they form a defining characteristic of their notability. As for flight hours and jet hours, I don't see why this is relevant for "Infobox astronaut"...the "time in space" parameter certainly is, but they are known for being astronauts, not necessarily pilots. The body of the article is fine for the other aspects of their careers that the individual is not specifically known for. — Huntster (t @ c) 01:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Following up two years later...I have deleted most of the physical attributes sections; I remember elsewhere someone saying they did not like them as well. Kees08 (Talk) 22:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional fields

message: Can you please add support so we can add this as a child to the infobox person template. ? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:02, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: why not read the documentation? Frietjes (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have, and formally withdraw my request. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 09:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Embed support 

message: Please change per .
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To this:
*  78.19.65.80 (talk) 21:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018 

message: I was about to add Neil Armstrong's signature to the infobox, only to see that it is not a supported parameter. Other infoboxes, such as :Template:Infobox officeholder used in John Glenn's article, have that parameter. Thoughts on adding it to this? Anyone savvy enough to implement it? Kees08 (Talk) 21:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Astronauts are not really known for signatures. Regarding the implementation you could probably just copy and paste from an infobox that does allow it. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Some astronauts are specifically known for lack of signatures (Neil Armstrong in general; Michael Collins refusing to sign his artwork for years). Other astronauts specifically sit in signing sessions to generate income. I thought the addition of the signatures would be a positive addition because of that, but if we do not want to do it I will not force the issue. Kees08 (Talk) 21:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added some code, could you give it a try please? --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Works fine, I think it looks fine; you can check out the Neil Armstrong article and see what you think. Thanks! Kees08 (Talk) 22:29, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

text: Thanks for trying it out. All  here then. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:33, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signature parameter