Talk:Berlin U-Bahn

message: Hi Boredzo! you revised the list of Berlin U-Bahn Route numbers... I know it´s logical to list the routes in a number sequence... unfortunately that isn´t the Berlin way of doing it... 
the U15 is part of the U1 (half the U1) and the U55 is part of the U5 (or will be at a later date) and is also half the U5..   check out the Berlin S-Bahn Routes listing and you´ll see the same thing happens there... gruss aus Berlin IsarSteve 08:46, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route Number Listing 

message: Anyone into train types and stuff? I know there are big ones and little ones (and little boxy ones made by "VEB Lokomotivbau-Elektrotechnische Werke Hans Beimler") but not much else, i.e. how old they are, which trains are East  /West. Also, apparently there used to be trains on the U5 which were made out of converted S-Bahns.
:I´ll add a few details when I get the time but until then here´s a link  look under Das rollende Material IsarSteve 15:44, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  aha, interesting, thanks. The U5 trains I mean are evidently the "Baureihe E III". I think I even remember them. The German version also has some info. Ianb 22:43, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of U-Bahn train? 

message: OK, so I moved the empty headings to the bottom of the article.  But I'm about to remove them completely.  But I really don't understand why they need to be there at all.  Once the article at Berlin_U-Bahn/temp is translated, it will be great and awesome to have it on the English page.  But why on Earth do we need the empty headings on the main article page right now?  It just makes the main page look junky and incomplete.   If you need a sandbox for working, use the temp page -- not a public page! --Jfruh 23:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Maybe User:PZFUN is looking after his count of edits?--Hhielscher 14:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  For all the work I just put into the U-Bahn article, I'm not quite sure I like the accusation, but since its past the point of mattering, I'm not going to make an issue out of it. For the future, I do not edit with those intentions. Páll (Die pienk olifant) 02:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the point of the empty headings? 

message: Ah, the BVG underwear, I remember it well from my time in Berlin (I lived there in the first half of 2002).  If I recall correctly,  you could also get panties labelled "Französische Straße" ("French Street").
Can anyone German explain why "Uncle Tom's Cabin" is supposed to be sexy?  It's not some awful joke about black men's penises, is it? --Jfruh 22:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The pant is the cabin, and Uncle Tom is what it houses. A straightforward pun. I don't think the story of the book were in the minds of the people who thought of that pant. The relationship between the book and the U-Bahn station of the same name is quite distant anyway. (The book was popular in Germany during the 1880s, which is why a pub was named for it. Later a neighbourhood around the pub arose and took its name. Even later the U-Bahn stop was named for the neighbourhood, see de:Onkel Toms Hütte (Berlin) )Anorak2 12:13, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Underwear" (given the English name) was a project by design students, and came in neat metal boxes. The names were all those of U-Bahn stations, which sounded like obvious double entendres. (Anorak's of interpretation of Onkel Toms Hütte is spot-on; it had nothing to do with knowledge of the book, or what an "Uncle Tom" is supposed to be (an unknown concept in Germany).) However, the text wasn't very accurate and didn't translate the joke well, so I'll rework it. ProhibitOnions 09:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I've added an image of it to the article, as the BVG was selling it off at the festival today in celebration of 125 years of the electric tram.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 21:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naughty U-Bahn underwear 

message: At least three of the versions of this article in foreign-language Wikipedias are featured.  This article contains most of the same information already, and I think that the work of the contributors to this version should also be recognised.  To help improve the article and achieve that, over the next few days I shall be sorting out spelling/grammar problems, adding in more info, and generally trying to provide a little more cohesion.  I'd be grateful for suggestions/feedback during/after this process, and especially so for any translations of sections in foreign versions that aren't already present in this article, as German is the only other version I can understand without Babelfish. ObfuscatePenguin 06:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article improvements. 

message: The teaser says that the East Berlin lines were served from the west, which is a bit misleading ("The East Berlin U-Bahn lines were severed from West Berlin..."). Allthough a number of lines passed East Berlin territory in order to connect northern and southern parts of West Berlin, the eastern lines now part of lines U2 and U5 were run by the city of East Berlin (cfr. german http://www.berliner-untergrundbahn.de/ or the german wikipedia articles http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Bahnlinie_5_(Berlin) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Bahnlinie_2_(Berlin)).   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.84.247 (talk) 18:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The teaser doesn't say "served"; it says "severed", i.e. cut off from the West. --Jfruh (talk) 01:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Berlin Underground 

message: It is not clear that the "North-South S-Bahn tunnel was flooded on Hitler's orders to prevent its use by the Red Army". In fact that is disputed.  It is more likely that the flooding was caused by Soviet bombardment.
:I'm trying to find more info on this.  I note that https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschichte_der_Berliner_U-Bahn#Die_U-Bahn_unter_Wasser is unequivocal and doesn't seem to be a matter of dispute (searches of the 'Diskussion' {Talk} pages don't seem to show any discussion).  So who disputes, please?  There is no dispute that it was flooded. 
:The only issue I can see so far is that according to German wiki it was "the tunnel ceiling of the North-South railway" that was destroyed and by demolition conducted by "SS troops", whereas according to http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24868 "On somebdy's orders, engineers have blsted the locks of the canal between Schoeneburg and Mockern Bridges to flood the tunnels against the advancing Rusians"
:I note some pages on wiki show it as being part of the "Nero Decree", but if you look at that page it is clear that the flooding can't have been directly a result of the "Nero Decree".  So if it was on "Hitler's orders" they would have had to have been conveyed some other way. 
:In the end, I suspect the outcome will need to be on History of the Berlin U-Bahn, rather than fully covered on this main page, but since the History page doesn't have a talk page, and the issue has been raised here...  DrArsenal (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  1945 flooding 

message: The infobox is vastly overstrained and should be replaced with something matching this article.  --79.223.9.136 (talk) 23:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox public transit 

message: The article needs some revision.
- I removed the irrelevant statement about BER airport "(similar to Bangkok)".
- The Future developments section for U4 needs more presicion: "a possible northern extension would reach Magdeburger Platz, where it would connect with the future line from Potsdamer Platz to the Kurfürstendamm". Which line? To U3? That should be mentioned.
- Removed references to year 2012 as a target year for closing Tegel airport  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.33.51 (talk) 10:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current updates (2014) 

message: There is now new U55 in operation consisting of 3 stations. But I do not know details in order to edit the article  (81.198.231.196 (talk) 17:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  U55 

message: What do you all think? Is it worth including this 1981 U-Bahn diagram in the article? It shows a number of interesting realities that West Berliners faced every day back then. They include:
#the Wall (actually, the hashed line is officially the "Sector Boundary" – but that amounted to as much);
#the unbuilt sections to Paracelsus-Bad and Rathaus Spandau;
#the then out-of-service ("außer Betrieb") stretch between Wittenbergplatz and Thälmannplatz (now Mohrenstraße);
#the likewise then out-of-service stretch beyond Schlesisches Tor to Warschauer Brücke (now Warschauer Straße);
#the ghost stations on Lines 6 and 8 where West Berlin trains were allowed to pass through but not stop ("Bahnhöfe auf denen, die Züge nicht halten");
#the numbering scheme and arrangement of the main lines, which are rather different from what they are today (this includes that silly three-station shuttle then called Line 3);
#the absence of a Line 5;
#the two-line system in East Berlin, as it then stood (they had not extended the line to Hönow yet);
#the absence of a Mendelssohn-Bartholdy-Park station between Gleisdreieck and Potsdamer Platz;
#the bus links between the U-Bahn and Tegel Airport.
It does not, however, show the S-Bahn on either side of the Wall. On the western side, it had pretty much packed up by 1981 anyway. By all means use this if you like. I have used the same licence for it as another user used for the original version of the 1984 East Berlin U- and S-Bahn diagram. I hope it is indeed applicable. In case you're interested, I was a high-school student at the time who was in Germany on a tour arranged by the Pädagogischer Austauschdienst. Kelisi (talk) 02:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vintage West Berlin U-Bahn diagram 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "In 2006, travel on the U-Bahn was equivalent to 122.2 million km (76 million mi) of car journeys." What does this mean ? Equivalent in what way ? Why mention cars ? Needs to explicitly state what the quoted number means : individual passengers carried for x km ? Trains travelled for x km ? Rcbutcher (talk) 23:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaningless statement

message: Hi, I’ve just updated the lines table to remove U55, now that it’s part of U5 with yesterday’s extension, and updated U5. Does anyone know how long the line is now? If so, can that be updated please? I don’t know the new length. Thanks.AlJenko98 (talk) 03:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New U5 extension  

message: thumb|Bernauer Straße (Berlin U-Bahn)  
I have just added this image to long s to illustrate that this kind of  was still in official use in Germany until the Bormann Decree of 1941. The text reads "": I've taken a wild guess that it is an original name for Bernauer Straße but its description on Commons says "". So is it Bernauer Straße or Berlin Nordbahnhof? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As the author of the photo I assure you that it is Nordbahnhof. It is a direction sign not a station name. You can see more of them in this photo at Google SV. Andrzej O (talk) 09:35, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: tyvm. Now that you point it out, it becomes obvious that the "underline" is actually an arrow. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this sign for Bernauer Straße  station? 

message: Greetings--
I noticed that there's a lack of consistency within the individual Berlin U-Bahn articles, and I'd like to begin editing them to include (at least) the following (hopefully reasonable and manageable) standards and wanted to get consensus and suggestions here. If there's a better place to post this please let me know.
1. An infobox (not articles even have one) that includes at a minimum the information found in Adenauerplatz (Berlin U-Bahn), specifically:
* Picture of the station, station entrance, or platform
* Move coordinates from the article body to the infobox
* Owner/operator
* Platforms
* Tracks
* Connections
* Structure type
* Fare zone
* Date opened
* Services
* Map frame with rail marker 
* Location within Berlin
2. Standardize structure/headings to include at a minimum:
* lede
* History
* References
3. General copyedit and cleanup, add additional info from German wikipedia article, fix refs
4. Remove:
* Is it feasible to try to maintain a list of transport links in the article body, specifically bus lines which can easily change?  
* Do we need "owned by" and "train operators" in info box? Are there any u-bahn-only stations not owned and operated by BVG?
Combo U-Bahn/S-Bahn/DB station articles like Alexanderplatz, Hbf, Schönhauser Allee, etc are a bit trickier and will require more discussion I think.
 
Anything else?
Thanks! Celjski Grad (talk) 16:08, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Standards