Talk:Bob Schaffer

message: Reverted edits by The Mystery Man for reasons listed in the history page; given this is a current-event related page dealing with a living figure, let's try to reach consensus on the discussion page before making edits. -- BradJones1 (talk) 22:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted edits by [[User:The Mystery Man|The Mystery Man]] 

message: I propose changing the head shot on this page to this photo [] provided by the campaign; it's color, higher-resolution, and more current.
BradJones1 22:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing head shot? 

message: Sounds like its taken from a campaign bio.
=== Definitely true ===
I went to Liberty where he was the principal at the time. This is heavily embellished and written the same way that he talks in real life.
This whole thing needs to be overhauled with more neutral language.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:282:8200:5D60:5B2:CFE1:9B20:6E73 (talk) 18:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Riddled with favorable POV adjectives 

message: I went to Liberty where he was the principal at the time. This is heavily embellished and written the same way that he talks in real life.
This whole thing needs to be overhauled with more neutral language.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:282:8200:5D60:5B2:CFE1:9B20:6E73 (talk) 18:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definitely true 

message: I removed much of the political jargon and the NPOV tag.  Of course, how can you describe a politician without some politics sneaking in?--Kevin Murray 22:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed jargon and NPOV tag 

message: I removed some poorly sourced claims. A letter-to-the-editor alleging a conspiracy of the Department of Interior is not a WP:RS. Neither is DiscoverTheNetworks.org's attempt to paint a group as part of a liberal conspiracy. Furthermore, World (magazine) may or may not be a WP:RS regarding international sentiments. However, I left it in and WP:ATT. Paper45tee (talk) 19:08, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: The page is now protected for seven days days. During this time, please try and find common ground and arrive to a version that all can live with. If you cannot, this is a good time to pursue dispute resolution such as third opinions or requests for comments. If you are ready to resume editing or to contest the protection, place a request at WP:RFPP.≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any problems with the article? Paper45tee (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: First off, I am a Democrat. Anyway, I've noticed this page seems to have a very strong liberal bias compared to similar pages of democratic nominees? Does anyone else agree? --Redwolf75 (talk) 05:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree either, Redwolf75. The Marianas section needs some serious revision to remove bias - I've tagged it as "neutrality disputed". — Lincolnite (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV Issues: Marianas Section 

message: I tagged this section as disputed because it's not relevant that LCV does business with an organization that used to be headed by Mark Udall's wife.
It's an attempt to dismiss LCV through guilt by association when there isn't even any association.
If the LCV's environmental claim can be refuted by a reliable source, put that in. If the LCV's motives are personal and not genuine as the current sentence about Maggie Fox seems to suggest, then find a reliable source that says it and put it in.
I nominate that particular sentence for removal. Janus303 (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Environmental Record 

message: I added neutrality disclaimer on section about the National Alternative Fuels Foundation, as well as changing the section's title.  This is another example of opponents of Schaffer trying to use "guilt by association" as Wikipedia-worthy encyclopedic content.
I also removed a sentence earlier in the document with a poll result as polls are nothing but changing and error-prone snapshots in time which are not information about Bob Schaffer, Mark Udall, or anything else.
FactCheckCO 15:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First, please understand that I have no "dog in this hunt" as far as Mr. Schaffer and his opponenent for the senate seat in Colorado.  But having said that, I can not recall seeing a BLP that has such a strong POV regarding the subject of the BLP.  The criticisms section of this BLP clearly violates WP:Coatrack and the prohibitions in BLP:Criticism and Praise.  There is inappropriate "guilt by association", unsubstantiated rumors, and inclusion of text from sources that are not reliable.  As such, I have removed the section, as we all should whenever we see these in a WP:BLP, be the subject a republican or a democrat.  Newguy34 (talk) 21:48, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've restored the section and removed the two obvious items that shouldn't be there. Please keep in mind that WP:COATRACK is an essay, not policy. Who politicians choose to associate with is significant. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 18:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I largely disagree.  Coatrack articles run against the fundamental NPOV policy, particularly the requirement that articles be balanced.  When a BLP is a coatrack, it is a problem that requires immediate action.  The sections in question in the BLP contain inappropriate "guilt by association" and unsubstatiated rumors, vieled in properly cited sources.  I consider this a matter for the BLP Noticeboard if it continues.  This is a blatant attempt to negatively reflect on the subject of a BLP, sure evidence of which is when the text of the section says something along the lines of "Someone did something bad, and although the subject of the BLP has not yet been implicated to the doer of bad things..." (as was the case with this BLP).  Newguy34 (talk) 18:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issues 

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