Talk:Palestinian political violence

message: Should the lead of the article mention that some of the political violence has been considered terrorism? Dovidroth (talk) 10:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC on Terminology

message: *Yes. Political violence is WP:EUPHEMISM. Censoring the word "terrorism" from the lead, despite being used extensively in reliable sources is a violation of WP:DUE and WP:NOTCENSORED. Many articles such as Terrorism in India, Terrorism in Europe, and Israel and state-sponsored terrorism use "terrorism". Furthermore, Google Trends and other ngrams show the much more common use of "terrorism" compared with "Palestinian political violence" and it's widespread usage in academic literature. Dovidroth (talk) 10:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey (1)

message: Should the lead begin Palestinian political violence including Palestinian terrorism? Dovidroth (talk) 13:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we do have a page Jewish terrorism, and such title seems to be rather problematic, potentially antisemitic. It should be renamed to something like Zionist terrorism and possibly merged with page Zionist political violence. My very best wishes (talk) 00:00, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As we do Islamic terrorism. The idea that it is antisemitic to refer to Jewish terrorism is one of the many personal opinions that we would all be better off not needing to read. WP:NOTFORUM and all that. nableezy - 00:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: And quite a few others, including Christian, Sikh, and Hindu: :Category:Religious terrorism --Orgullomoore (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, exactly: Islamic and Christian are related to religion, not ethnicity. Usually, the terrorism is related to specific ideology or a cause. :Category:Terrorism by country is fine.  But :Category:Terrorism by ethnic group would not be OK. Sikh terrorism is a redirect page. My very best wishes (talk) 02:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Judaism is a religion? nableezy - 02:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes? Zionism and Judaism are not the same though they do overlap. Senorangel (talk) 03:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

text: Assuming without conceding you are correct that "[ethnic group] terrorism" is inherently anti-[ethnic group], "Palestinian terrorism" is inherently anti-Palestinian, no? Palestinian is not a religion. --Orgullomoore (talk) 04:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Revised RFC on Terminology

message: *Yes. Political violence is WP:EUPHEMISM. Censoring the term "Palestinian terrorism" from the lead, despite being used extensively in reliable sources is a violation of WP:DUE and WP:NOTCENSORED. Many articles such as Terrorism in India, Terrorism in Europe, and Israel and state-sponsored terrorism, Jewish religious terrorism and Islamic Terrorism use "terrorism". Furthermore, ngrams and Google Scholar (Palestinian terrorism (4,540 results) vs. Palestinian Political violence (124 results)) show the much more common use of "terrorism" compared with "Palestinian political violence" and it's widespread usage in academic literature. Dovidroth (talk) 13:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we do have a page Jewish terrorism, and such title seems to be rather problematic, potentially antisemitic. It should be renamed to something like Zionist terrorism and possibly merged with page Zionist political violence. My very best wishes (talk) 00:00, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As we do Islamic terrorism. The idea that it is antisemitic to refer to Jewish terrorism is one of the many personal opinions that we would all be better off not needing to read. WP:NOTFORUM and all that. nableezy - 00:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: And quite a few others, including Christian, Sikh, and Hindu: :Category:Religious terrorism --Orgullomoore (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, exactly: Islamic and Christian are related to religion, not ethnicity. Usually, the terrorism is related to specific ideology or a cause. :Category:Terrorism by country is fine.  But :Category:Terrorism by ethnic group would not be OK. Sikh terrorism is a redirect page. My very best wishes (talk) 02:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Judaism is a religion? nableezy - 02:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes? Zionism and Judaism are not the same though they do overlap. Senorangel (talk) 03:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

text: Assuming without conceding you are correct that "[ethnic group] terrorism" is inherently anti-[ethnic group], "Palestinian terrorism" is inherently anti-Palestinian, no? Palestinian is not a religion. --Orgullomoore (talk) 04:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey (2)

message: What's wrong with it? Why was it ? Alaexis¿question? 11:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yezid Sayight's book