Talk:Velma Dinkley

message: I must say that I disagree with the modern speculation that Velma was a lesbian. The reason I say this is because I have always identified w/Velma and I happen to be hetero. Here's what I think was really the deal: I think that Velma always had a crush on Fred, but knowing that she could never compete with Daphne for Fred's affections, she submerged herself in her only comfort, academia. Really, many average-looking, glasses-wearing, slightly stocky, brainiac girls (are there that many of us??) are so intimidated by aesthetically beautiful women - there's no way that we would set ourselves up for that kind of humiliation; it's better to just show off the only stuff that we've got - our brains and humor - and hope that the guy will someday figure it out. I've been there and done that; and if the guy's that shallow, we're never going to win his affections (we know that he's not worth winning, anyway, but media driven social icons and imaging are difficult things to shake). I don't think that Velma ever allowed herself to get to a point where she realized that, or perhaps she was just so head over heels that just traipsing after Fred in any capacity was better than nothing at all. It's a bit dysfunctional, but more believable than the lesbian theory, to me.
	  	
See, there were only two men for Velma to choose from: Fred or Shaggy. Fred was obviously a cad, but he was smarter than Shaggy. And while good-hearted, Shaggy wasn't very bright. While dumb guys might be good for a tumble, they get boring after a while to a girl who needs someone who can understand what she's saying. It's really a pity, though, that Velma was never introduced to anyone with whom she could share her interests, male or female. Must've been lonely - no wonder she closeted herself with data. (Hmmm... unintentional pun, but I bet she would have rather enjoyed the companionship of a certain Mr. Data...)
	 
Ppfooie 04:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: On one of his posts for Pride Month 2020, Tony Cervone posted two pictures of Velma in front of a rainbow flag alongside another female character (Marcie?). I saw screenshots of him later discussing that they queer-coded Velma as much as possible for the time and that her relationship(s) with Shaggy were intentionally flawed in order to reflect that she was struggling in a relationship with a man. Perhaps time to create a section on the page at least mentioning the discussion/controversy? Public Identity (talk) 19:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

text: In 2017, Mystery Incorporated's main writer, Mitch Watson, was interviewed on "The Nightfly with Dave Juskow" and stated that they wrote the character as gay on the show, saying that they tried to portray Velma and Marcie as being in a relationship, and saying "We weren't allowed to ever say that. If you watch the series it's pretty much about a girl struggling with her sexuality and then she figures it out by the end."  Tony Cervone, Co-creator of Mystery Incorporated, basically just restated what Watson already said: she was intended to be a gay character that spent part of the first season realizing that she was gay. I'm genuinely surprised this wasn't already mentioned in the article, since it's old news at this point. 23:50, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi - We need actual citations in order to put any lesbian talk into the page. It isn't old news as in the past its always been fancruft. Word of mouth / Original Research doesn't count. Ckruschke (talk) 17:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lesbian]] or not? 

message: These two cartoon characters are together, aren't they?  There was a mini cartoon shown on Cartoon Network where Johnny fell in love with Velma, though eventually they had to break up because Velma had to go and solve mysteries with the rest of Mystery, Inc.. --63.206.117.150 08:15, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cartoon Network setup with Johnny Bravo 

message: I must say I'm not certain, but was the name "velma" created for this character? I've never heard it used anywhere else. 71.224.228.244 02:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It's an obscure name. But after doing a google search I was able to locate several instance that had to predate this character. --Marhawkman 01:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  My Grandmother's name is Velma and she is in her 90's. I was shocked to come here when I typed in "Velma" while going through the various names of people I know. Many names have pages describing where the names come from. Are we sure that "Velma" should re-direct here? Failureofafriend (talk) 06:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Oh, I though you meant her surname, "Dinkley". It was never actually used in the earleir cartoons; the first occurence of it being in A Pup Named Scooby-Doo.  I thought it referred to the "dinka-dinka" sound used for her footsteps, but I recently heard it used in an episode of Dinky Dog (as a female-sounding fake name for Dinky, who was in a dress at the time). Perhaps not coincidentally, one of the girls there looks like a cuter Velma, with the same brownish-red bob cut--a ladies' style all the rage back in 1978, but which has not aged well. The_Iconoclast (talk) 14:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Unique name?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Daphne velma wnsd.jpg

message: Legally blind (Wikipedia):  "Central visual acuity of 20/200 or less in the better eye with corrective glasses."  Velma can see fine with her glasses, so she's not legally blind.70.50.55.197 (talk) 03:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question.  Until I developed cataracts and had cornea surgery, my vision was about as bad as Velma's and getting worse.  I also had astigmatism and my right eye turns in, giving me double vision.  I don't know how much of that could be corrected with contacts, but I do know that my eyes are very sensitive, to the point that I have to hold my eye open to get drops into it, so contacts are simply out of the question.  I still have the double vision, but can work around it (decades of practice) and the rest of my vision is almost perfect.  Maybe Velma is like me and can't wear contacts.  JDZeff (talk) 18:30, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eyesight 

message: What is the mysterious lump part-way down Velma's left sock?  I saw a licensed stage production recently and noticed that her costume included this feature, which I remember from the original cartoons.  It's missing on most images I can find online but the costume designer must have decided it was worth going out-of-the-way to include.  Does anybody know what this is? Mrstonky (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lump in Velma's socks  What is she hiding???

message: The latest edits, here, have changed the name of the character to the above from 'Velma Elizabeth Dinkley'; I can't find any refs to this online from a cursory search, excluding wikipedia, so am wondering where this came from, or if it is indeed a legitimate change. Also some of the dates, such as Linda Cardellini have been changed. She's been added for 2011 for instance yet imdb doesn't have a listing for her playing this role in 2011, so also wondering about those changes. I'm also wondering if appearences in a spoof really count as playing the character, rather than simply portraying a spoof of the character. Especially if it was for something like one of the split second skits on Robot Chicken, that doesn't really seem like a notable appearence.Number36 (talk) 20:40, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the note - looks like a recent idiot which I appear to have missed. I'll go through and change everything back. Ckruschke (talk) 18:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marina "Velma" Dinkley? 

message: I was long under the impression the character of Velma's full name was Velma Dace Dinkley, and not Madelyn "Velma" Dinkley, as stated in the article. A simple search on Google returns a number of sites that refer to Velma as Velma Dace Dinkley. The only Madelyn Dinkley references I can find are for Velma's younger sister. Samuel.Vincent52 (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Was changed by a malicious anonymous editor and it looks like I missed it. Ckruschke (talk) 11:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be some more disagreement over her middle name, it was stated to be 'Elizabeth', and then changed to 'Dacey', I've removed both as neither had a Reliable Source or cite to back them up. Also this character exists in more than one iteration of the fiction, just because in continuity they state a name it doesn't necessarily inherently apply to the character across all of those. For instance if in a re-booted film, they state her name to be 'Velma Nancy Dinkley', it doesn't mean that was her middle name in the original series, if in the orginal series no middle name was used, then there simply wasn't a middle name used for that character in that series; she didn't secretly have a middle name they didn't refer to, that would be an inapproriately in-universe perspective, in reality the only fictional facts that exist about are what are stated within the fiction. If in another version they used a different middle name, then in that version she was stated to have a different middle name. Either way, need an RS cite for inclusion, and preferably with context.Number36 (talk) 04:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. I should have just deleted it completely as I've never heard her last name. Ckruschke (talk) 12:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I do not think Velma's middle name was known until Curse of the Lake Monster. 184.58.22.86 (talk) 20:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Velma's full name 

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message: There are too many threads on this already, but since many of them will be archived at some point, I decided to start another. What people have to remember is that the characters were created in the late-1960's, a time when gender roles weren't as clearly defined. There were plenty of women who weren't necessarily girly-girls (like Daphne), and weren't lesbians, while on the other hand there's also the phenomenon of the "lipstick lesbian." All the rumors about Velma being a lesbian seems to have started around the 1980's, and over time more people began to see her that way, hence the portrayal of her as one in movies such as "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back," as well as the originally planned version of the 2002 live action movie. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  14:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep - its simple uncited fancruft / revisionist history to be reverted immediately. Honestly I don't know why more woman don't come out against this reinterpretation since its essentially saying that since Velma is smart and wears glasses with plain clothes (although with miniskirt) and no noticeable makeup, then that "means" she's a lesbian??? That explains like 90% of all hard core feminists... Besides, there are multiple cartoons where she either dug Shaggy or a male guest star. Utter nonsense. Ckruschke (talk) 18:39, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Velma as a lesbian, again 

message: Make velma a lesbian it is canon and change her love interest as well 92.239.66.195 (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Already discussed in the article.  See Velma Dinkley#Sexuality with sources that support the content. General Ization Talk   15:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2022 

message: In the 70s animated show called "Wait till Your Father Gets Home", episode 13, in the scene showing "used wives" (~3 minutes in), one of the models is dressed remarkably like Velma, which may or may not have been an intentional homage to its fellow cartoon of "Scooby-doo" that had premiered around a year before. Those who edit this page can review the episode and decide or not inclusion into this page is desirable. 2.132.13.1 (talk) 19:15, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop Culture Homage