Talk:List of scientists in medieval Islamic world

message: This page needs to be divided into Muslim Scientists from 8th-16th century, and contemporary Muslim scientists.
Kxiqbal (talk) 17:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled 

message: LOL ,, yes ,, reMove them ONE per ONE till this list will be empty ( and we will remove it finally ) ,, what the hell is the value that a scientist be a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew or an atheist? :/ --41.103.64.199 (talk) 00:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If he say : bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm in the fist page of his books ,, SO HE IS A MUSLIM ,,, Otherwise he is a hypocrite :/ hypocrite scientist yay :/ ,, can any one add a new category for those "hypocrite scientist" --41.103.64.199 (talk) 00:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing them one/one PROJECT

message: How on earth do you consider someone to be a physicist or mathematician from a couple of vague statement that he/she made.
eg: Prophet Muhammad is recorded under physicist !!   
Also the people who co-founded Hotmail and Youtube WERE NOT Computer Scientists!!! They should be included in an entrepreneurs list  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.147.88 (talk) 01:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, Islam has no connection with science. Islam supports supernatural ideas, while science is naturalist. No wonder so many on this list are obscure old timers who simply translated from the Greek.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.35.123 (talk) 13:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: This page is a joke!

message: I suggest putting an AFD or severely revising it. 65.10.35.147 20:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pointless incomplete list

message: I read remark here that his faith was disputed, but this page doesn't say anything about it, 
"(disputed)"
except "Al'Khwarizmi wrote on Hindu-Arabic numerals and was the first to use zero as a place holder in positional base notation.".
If someone is so ignorant to deduce from this sentence that his faith was disputed, he shouldn't bother editing wikipedia's article about science.
(The early mathematicians didn't use the number zero, zero was "discovered" by Hindus and then used by Arabs who introduced it in Spain and from there it reached the Western Scientists of the later centuries. Anyone who knows this wouldn't doubt Al-Khwarzimi's faith by reading that sentence quoted above.) Waqas.usman 11:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al-Khwarzimi 

message: The Pakistani government considers Abdus Salam to be a wretched Qadiani pretending to be a Muslim, so I don't see how they can have it both ways... AnonMoos 10:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just saying he is Pakistani. It doesn't say what the Pakistan government feels about it. For example an Iranian physicist is still Iranian even if he's been imprisoned by the mullah-influenced state.--T. Anthony 12:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Abdus Salam?

message: According to the book Rebirth by Shoja-e-din Shafa, and Al-Razi's article in wikipedia itself (Both English and Farsi) Razi was not a muslim, actually he was an atheist, so I'm removing him from the list
:LOL ,, yes ,, reMove them ONE per ONE till empty this list ,, heeeeeey : STOP Hatred ,, what the hell is the value that a doctor be a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew or an atheist? if he say :  in the fist page of his books ,, SO HE IS A MUSLIM ,,, Otherwise he is a hypocrite :/ hypocrite scientist yay :/ ,, can any one add a new category for those "hypocrite scientist"
::I looked at his article and it doesn't say that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Zakariya_al-Razi.
He clearly wasn't a Muslim and hated established religion, but he believed in some sort of god, seeing as in these quotes from that same article...
"I prayed to God to direct and lead me to the truth in writing this book..."
"...[medicine is] instituted for the benefit and welfare of the human race, and God imposed on physicians the oath not to compose mortiferous remedies"
... he talks quite a lot about god. His god did not create the universe but arranged it from existing principles. I guess it's a form of deism. Is there a list of deist scientists?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.110.146 (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Razhes (Razi)

message: It could really be nice to have some years for when they are born and died... ChristianB 19:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Born and dead

message: I will start removing unsourced information in a week. See for example List of atheists. Arrow740 (talk) 07:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "Vallely" :
** Paul Vallely. How Islamic inventors changed the world. The Independent.
** Paul Vallely, How Islamic Inventors Changed the World, The Independent, 11 March 2006.
DumZiBoT (talk) 02:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: That's the golden era of the Middle Eastern muslim states. Modern-day muslim scientists have nothing to do with that culturally. It's absurd to mix one's religion to modern science, it just doesn't have any relevance. Should we also compile a list of Christian scientists? (:  --Sigmundur (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: At the least, the modern entries should be moved from List of modern Muslim scientists, and removed from this page. Dialectric (talk) 14:26, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

text: There exists a List of Jewish scientists and philosophers (which actually is composed of several lists). This article is not meant to unify on any ground other than professed religion (Islam). For example, List of British scientists contains entry as diverse as Isaac Newton and Greg Winter.VR talk 08:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: At the very least, for recent scientists, a reference justifying the claim that they are Muslim should be provided. For instance, it's not because a scientist is born in a country known for a certain religion that they necessarily are of that religion... especially if they have moved to another country which is much more liberal on religion!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.223.35 (talk) 09:23, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page should be restricted to muslim scientists prior to 16th century 

message: My guesses are: The racism of some arabs and the prejudice of some muslims.
Do they make a list about christian scientists as well? or more to the point a list about Human Scientists!
So what if they were muslim? Most of the people in this list were Iranian/Persian, their invention and contributions had NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM, they did all that in spite of Islam not because of it. As we have seen Islam is wholeheartedly against science and development. Most of them did in fact not follow Islam, and some of them even opposed it secretly, for publicly announcing you're not a muslim anymore would get you executed and it still does in the muslim countries.
Wikipedia has become a breeding ground for fanaticism, racism and religious propaganda.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by IranianPersian (talk • contribs) 18:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the meaning of this page? 

message: Ibn al-Nafis is listed here as a sociologist, but the Wikipedia article says he was (among other things) a physician who was the first to describe the pulmonary circulation of the blood. Sociology is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Was sociology even a field of study in the 13th Century? So, I'm changing "sociologist" to "physician." 
: Scratch that. There's already an entry under "Physicians and Surgeons" and under "Geographers and Earth Scientists" but there's nothing in the Wiki article that says anything about those occupations. Although, he was writing a 300 Volume Encyclopedia, he could have also have been an expert in those areas as well. I'm leaving it alone, but suggest that the two should be coordinated. If he was engaged in those other occupations, they should be listed in the Wikipedia article. If he wasn't they should be deleted from this list. 68.50.227.52 (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Ibn al-Nafis - Incorrect Occupations

message: The sources are all given both in their specific page and the list page it self, it is crucial to understand their origins, as an Arab growing up I was confused by the abrupt end of the golden age and the explanation to why it ended was always, it was the wests fault! But when i started doing my research on the subject it became clear that the golden age started with the conquest of persia and Spain and ended with them leaving the caliphate! I know that this is a sensitive issue, thats why i dont say it out right. But we need to stop blaming the west for everything and that starts by taking a serious look at our self and our past and not lying to our selves!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.129.159 (talk) 04:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see how adding nationalities does anything for that.  And as multiple editors have now reverted your change, please stop doing it until you can persuade people HERE that it is a good idea. If you continue just trying to push your version, you will be blocked from editing. noq (talk) 08:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  edited  

message: There are two references on the page to Al-Khazini, one which lists his years as (1115-1130) and one which states it as (115-1130). The second one is clearly a small typo, but both should have it (fl. 1115-1130), since those are years flourished, not years lived.
Hyperjeff (talk) 15:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2014 

message: according to references Omar Khayyam was agnostic. see --– Hossein Iran « talk » 01:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khayyam 

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message: The article is supposed to be a list of notable Muslim scientists from around 800-1400, but no sources indicae that many of the figures listed were Muslim. Yes these scientists lived in Arab countries during these years but it doesn't mean they were Muslim. We should go by reliable sources, and if there are actual sources that say a person was an adherent of Islam, they can not rightly be included in this list. Gzorba (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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