Talk:Kearny High School (California)

message: ::* Now that that rather unpleasant business has been addressed, User:Creashin, I am intrigued by your tally.  You claim that there are three supporting the inclusion of the link (presumably you, User:Brighterorange, and Uncle Davey).  But neither of the other two parties has made any comment that would indicate that they actually support the inclusion of the link.  User:Brighterorange asked if the inclusion makes the article better, which is actually an integral part of the discussion.  Uncle Davey gave no opinion on the matter, simply using the opportunity to attempt a personal attack, in violation of WP:NPA.  Nobody has made a case for inclusion, while I have made a case for exclusion, and User:FeloniousMonk has indicated that the link is part of a group of web pages that lack notability and credibility within the Wikipedia community.  When we consider the facts, then, the tally is two to one against.  
::* If you are a sock-puppet of User:Jason Gastrich, which I now suspect more strongly, this would be in keeping with the pattern of behavior that has been observed.  Mr Gastrich would often attempt to bring in meatpuppets, in this case, Uncle Davey, to presumably influence consensus, and rather than provide intelligent, rational justification for the inclusion or exclusion of material, would participate in attacks on those in opposition to his viewpoint.  He would often also misunderstand or misrepresent comments made by others and the consensus that is being developed, just as you have done here. 
::* To summarize, User:Brighterorange asked a relevant question, but has not indicated, either way, whether or not the link should be included.  It would seem that he wanted to prompt discussion and wanted to see justification as to why it should not be included, and I have provided that.  User:Usenetpostsdotcom didn't register an opinion, either.  He's merely here to stir up trouble, and it's interesting that he happened to show up in this discussion at this time, given his history and that of User:Jason Gastrich and their known association.  The only direct "vote" for the link (remember, Wikipedia is not a democracy, either) comes from you.  Any reasonable view of the tally, if there is one, so far, is two to one against.  However, we need to all remember that consensus is not about vote tallies .  Consensus comes from discussion of the issues.  
::* Please provide your justification for the inclusion of the link, so that we can reach the consensus that we've both indicated we'd like to reach.  Thank you. - Nascentatheist 03:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't have the time or desire to get into this any further. I just think it's a pertinent link for the article for obvious reasons. --Creashin 05:00, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * I'm sorry, User:Creashin, but that's not good enough, and the retreat that we're seeing is also characteristic of User:Jason Gastrich.  If the reasons are "obvious" to you, they may not be to someone else.  Please provide your reasons.  This is about discussion and the consensus that we both claimed to desire.  Where has that desire gone? - Nascentatheist 05:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of the discussion so far 

message: I just removed a bunch of unlinked or redlinked names based on the following policies/rationale:
#Per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information.
#Per WP:V, information on Wikipedia should be verified in independent, reliable sources.  None of the removed names had verification that they went to NIT or held the positions that were listed.
#Per WP:BLP, we must take extra care with any information about living persons in any article.  Sourcing requirements for living persons are especially stringent, so this essentially takes the previous point and amplifies it.
So, in order to be listed here, a person should either 1) have their own wikipage or 2) have a reliable source (as delineated in WP:RS) explaining why the person is more notable than the average graduate. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing non-notable people from the alumni section 

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