Talk:Eric Ravilious

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message: 2/9/1942 - No.269 Sqn.  - Hudson IIIA FH385: 'V'  Failed to return from search for 269/M, lost the previous day. Presumed ditched.
43198 F/Lt Alfred Charles CULVER DFM,MiD RAF +
110123 P/O Neville James GRAVES-SMITH RAFVR +
915066 F/Sgt William Henry Robert DAY RAFVR +
912131 F/Sgt George Neville BARNES RAFVR +
Passenger - Capt. Eric William RAVILIOUS RM (Official War Artist) +
Culver,Graves-Smith,Day & Barnes, commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.
Ravilious, commemorated on the Chatham Naval Memorial.
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?5435-Flt-Sgt-Thomas-Richard-Prescott-269-Sqdn-R.A.F/page2
and here: http://archive.is/5Yyf a snapshot of www.oca.269squadron.btinternet.co.uk now gone we have the following:
"Three Hudsons of No 269 Squadron searched for missing aircraft Hudson M, one of which was flown by the Station Commander, Gp Capt Hill with Flt Sgt Yorston as second pilot. One of the three search aircraft also failed to return.  No 269 Squadron ORB records (Appendix F)  " Flt Lt AC Culver DFM, Plt. Off. NJ Graves-Smith, Flt Sgt WHR Day and Flt Sgt GN Barnes reported missing from operational trip."   But the RAF Kaldaðarnes ORB states: "Capt E Ravilious ceased to be attached from Royal Marines.  Captain E Ravilious missing with 269 Squadron aircraft FH385".   (n.b.   Eric Ravilious was an Official War Artist who had been recognised before the war as an artist of considerable merit who had only arrived on the airfield the day before).
Looking for reliable source."(Msrasnw (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Plane

message: I fully understand that the IWM requires attribution, but this can be done perfectly well by providing a reference in the with the image; this keeps the required information on the same page. If we need a compromise, we can say "Imperial War museum[1]" with the code numbers in a footnote so the attribution is complete and unambiguous.
The actual licence only says on the matter "acknowledge the source of the Information by including any attribution statements specified by IWM and any other third parties ( © ......) and where possible, provide a link to the source (eg. http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/2143);"
I note that Wikipedia policy is not to place "©" in articles, and that we normally provide links in footnotes or references. It would therefore be best to comply by providing such a link along with the image code, though the latter is not demanded by the licence.
Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:55, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I hear your opinion, but have a different one. The "millions can't be wrong" argument can be used on many things none of us would agree with, and is explicitly noted to be an invalid argument in other Wikipedia debates as at AfD ("many other articles ..."). There is no requirement in the licence for "simplest and most visable". Visibility is perfectly adequately provided in a normal reference, which is the obvious place to provide a link. Your approach provides details that the licence does not request, and fails to provide the link it does ask for. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:34, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Attribution does not demand clutter

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