Talk:Flag of Sweden

message: I am not particullary please with this artcile i think it needs rewriting. --User:Fonzy 13:25, 25 August 2002 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy edit 

message: The Sweden-Norway Union flag colours are slightly wrong. This has been discussed at , but only implemented in the Norwegian version of the flag. Here comes a brief description of whats wrong:
*The blue colour of the Swedish flag was darker previously, and lacked a clear definition.
*The hoist cantons (see Flag terminology) were usually squares, although this also lacked clear definition (I think).
*The Union Emblem (the "herring sallad") in the top hoist canton had only one shade of blue. In the Swedish flag, the same blue as in the rest of the flag was used even in the Norwegian portion of the emblem, and vice versa.
N.B. The image "Commons:Image:Sweden union flag 1844-1905.jpg" is a modern reconstruction and is not correct, as mentioned in sv:Sveriges flagga.
I could change this myself if I only had a programme for editing SVGs. Help is appreciated.
HymylyT@C 18:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a shot at modifying the image in a direction that was brought up there. It has now a single darker blue shade and the hoist side cantons are square. The question is now if the shade of blue is correct, and whether the ratio of the flag is correct. But at least it is a step in the right direction. -- TimSE 18:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, indeed. I think we could leave the proportions like this, as I think they haven't ever been properly defined. About the colours I think the blue should be slightly brighter. Sweden's flag has always been brighter than the Norway's, whereas this image contains the same shade. HymylyT@C 14:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The shade of blue is now about in the middle between the shade of blue in the current-day Swedish flag and the current-day Norwegian flag. May take again a few hours until it starts showing up properly though, seems to be some odd delays when updating images. -- TimSE 16:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Colours in Union Flag 

message: The article should try to be a bit more vague about the switch from a double-tailed to a triple-tailed flag in the mid-1600s. I started working at the Vasa museum this week and since I noticed that all modern models and depictions of Vasa had triple-tailed flags, I asked the museum director about it. He said that there wasn't much in the form of standardization before the late 1600s and showed me a contemporary painting of ships from the late 1620s flying triple-tailed flags. He also showed me a picture of Swedish ships from the 16th century that had flags with blue and yellow horizontal stripes.
Peter Isotalo 06:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article is pretty cautious about that. However, it should be pointed out that the tripe-tailed ensign is officially mentioned for the very first time in the Royal Warrant of 1663 (Plakat, av den 6. Nov. 1663, angående den åtskillnad som härefter bör observeras emellan de flaggor som Kongl. Maj:ts enskilda skepp och farkoster föra, så ock de skepps och farkosters flaggor, som private personer tillhöra och af dem brukas skola). When I looked at older legislation at the library of the Swedish Riksdag, the "official" ensign is described as double tailed. I would presume that the triple-tailed was introduced gradually during the end of the Protestant War (possibly as of c. 1650). Regarding the Vasa Museum, I think it uses the current triple-tailed naval ensign (modern version) very much because the Vasa was de facto military property for the first years after the salvage in 1961. However, persuant to a legal derogation, the Museum still flies the current naval ensign on the top of its roof, as well as on a model of the ship inside the museum! Before moving to its present location in the 1980s, the very ship also carried the modern naval ensign, for some reason the ensign was placed in the aft where you'd normally expect the see a command sign. The flags with blue and yellow horizontal stripes the director showed you are most probably command signs! --Odengatan 18:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double and triple 

message: Per the discussion from 2007, the article needs some solid support for the claim that there there was actually standardized, double-tailed form of the flag from 1562. The only reference right now is a quote from a 16th-century primary source (a letter from Gustav I apparently). That does not amount to proper support, especially since early flags like this were anything but standardized.
Where does the claim regarding the double-tailed flag come from?
Peter Isotalo 21:47, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double tail needs support 

message: I really don't see how the COA has anything to do with the Swedish flag, except for the coincidence that it has the same colours and a cross design. I have looked but haven't found any sources that says the design was inspired by the flag of Sweden, so I think the recent addition should be removed. Including it looks like WP:SYNTH to me, especially since it is in the section Use outside Sweden. Sjö (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
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