Talk:Clickwrap

message: This article is about a U.S. legal concept of contract. There may be correlative concepts in other countries, but I am not sure that they have the same name. I think it would be better to remove the tag, describe the concept of click wrap as a U.S. legal theory, and provide links to pages that deal with similar concepts in other legal frameworks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donaldrobertsoniii (talk • contribs) 08:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: US Centric Tag

message: I cleaned up some of the legal citations, but I think this article, especially the opening section, could use some clarity. Weazie 19:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup?

message: Currently the article says this about Register.com v. Verio (reformatted):
The described key to a clickwrap agreement was that acceptance or rejection must occur before being given access. "Essentially, under a clickwrap arrangement, potential licensees are presented with the proposed license terms and forced to expressly and unambiguously manifest either assent or rejection prior to being given access to the product." The court held that the click-wrap dynamic did not exist where users were presented with the license simultaneously with the end product.
I read through the legal report, and the court seems to unambiguously take the opposite position.
Nor can Verio argue that it has not assented to Register.com’s terms of use. Register.com’s terms of use are clearly posted on its website. The conclusion of the terms paragraph states “[b]y submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.’’ (Ex. 27 to Pl.’s Sept. 8, 2000 Motion). Verio does not argue that it was unaware of these terms, only that it was not asked to click on an icon indicating that it accepted the terms. However, in light of this sentence at the end of Register.com's terms of use, there can be no question that by proceeding to submit a WHOIS query, Verio manifested its assent to be bound by Register.com's terms of use, and a contract was formed and subsequently breached.
So I Googled the quoted statement of the court ("Essentially, under a clickwrap arrangement . . ."), and instead of being brought to a court-issued report, I was brought to this web page.
I'm inclined to conclude that
* this article and the quoted source (above) are plainly wrong about the court's stance, and
* the quote ("Essentially . . .") is misleading as it's framed as a court statement but actually comes from an independent source (which isn't cited)
... but, could someone perform a sanity check and tell me if I'm overlooking something?
Thanks,
— xDanielx T/C\R 18:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that the web page you found was using Wikipedia as a source.  The Wayback shows a version of the page from 18 November 2005 that doesn't include that text.  The article history, though, indicates that the text was added on 15 July 2005.  In any case, though, if the article doesn't conform to the sources, then the article should be changed, and the guy who wrote the webpage you found should learn his lesson on not using Wikipedia as a primary source.  --DachannienTalkContrib 11:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Glad I'm not going bonkers. :-) Thanks; I'll fix up the article. — xDanielx T/C\R 00:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  I also emailed the author of the electronic contract notes about it. — xDanielx T/C\R 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused about Register.com v. Verio 

message: This article focuses on clickwrap agreements for software and should balance coverage of CTAs (or they should be covered in a separate article). -- samj inout 09:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Click-through agreement (CTA) 

message: I just added a new example of A.V., et al. v iParadigms, LLC taken from the Turnitin article.  I noticed that page 7 of the supporting document  mentions several other examples of clickwrap agreements being upheld in court.  I may add these into the article as well; if I don't get to it, feel free to do it yourself!  Wingman4l7 (talk) 01:50, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  examples in US lawsuits 

message: I propose merging Clickwrap and Browsewrap into a single article; my suggested title would be Electronic contract acceptance.  Previous discussion (from 2011) can be found Merge with article "Software license"|here.  The subjects of the articles overlap considerably, and there has been criticism of a clickwrap/browsewrap distinction (Eric Goldman).  RJaguar3 | u | t 20:21, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
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*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20070306095303/http://www.isaacbowman.com:80/PKI-old-technology-has-a-new-rival to http://www.isaacbowman.com/PKI-old-technology-has-a-new-rival
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thread_title:  External links modified