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Wikipedia talk:Dealing with disruptive or antisocial editors/poll/archive1

message: I'm not sure we should have two yes options (yes and yes but only for a trial period) I predict that most people will be cautious and vote for the trial period. We could just put it's a trial period in the intro straight off and keep the voting options simple. Also two months isn't very long. Disruptive editing can be complex - well more complex than straight vandalism anyway. I don't think two months is really long enough to evaluate how well the policy is working. I suggest doubling it to four months. Any thoughts?  theresa knott 19:27, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. My suggestion was to get rid of the "yes" and "yes but" options and merge them into a new "yes but we'll review in 4 months" That way there would have been two option yes and no, but now there are four. Oh well it's too late now.No one has voted for the four month option though. We could just remove it? theresa knott 00:00, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

message: I don't think it's appropriate to add the yes and yes, buto n a trial period votes together. In fact, I think it's best to get rid of the on a trial period vote at all, because it always has been and always will be the case that any policy can be changed or removed (or created) if through the proper channels. You could easily rephrase the question "no, unless on a trial period", and then add it to the no votes. { MB | マイカル } 17:16, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)
Gedday Mbecker, You may have a point. Its a bit late now. We had the draft poll up for a week before it opened for taking comment and formualating the rules. Erich 01:53, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: that's right Elf-friend- a combined vote success of a+b would lead to a trial period. Erich 19:32, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: "I agree with Anthony - but I interpreted what was written that if there would have been a consensus for yes combined with yes for a trial period, then there would have been a trial period."  I'm not sure where I was unclear, but I interpreted it the same way. anthony (see warning) 18:03, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Actually there is one precedent, which is that quickpolls were implemented with a trial period of 30 days, and when we reviewed them afterwards, the consensus in favor was not as clear, so the policy died (albeit with a few spasmodic jerks post-mortem). I think trial periods can be handy when attempting solutions to intractable problems, but keep in mind that they give the critics of any policy a second clear chance to kill it. --Michael Snow 00:18, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yes, but on a trial period does not equal yes 

message: Frankly, I'd just like to see Anthony's proposal put to a vote, as I believe that it covers all the relevant points with much, much more simplicity and less rigamarole. If Anthony's had gone to a vote instead of the current one, I think it would have passed much more easily. Ambi 10:36, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Are all these polls really necessary?
Talk:Hippopotamus

message: A hippo's milk is pink. Galaismydoggo (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Liu1126 (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2024 

message: Grammar edit, Evolution heading, second sentence.
"first from blood proteins, then from molecular systematics[13] and DNA[14][15] and the fossil record," 
Should be changed to: 
"first from blood proteins, then from molecular systematics,[13] DNA,[14][15] and the fossil record," Ballendorf (talk) 23:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: M.Bitton (talk) 00:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2024
Talk:Zdravko Čolić

message: I think that the text inside short description template and the description in the list at Čolić should match up.  I checked Čolić: Revision history and the description for Zdravko Čolić has stayed the same since it was written on 27 March 2013.  That description reads "singer from Bosnia and Herzegovina".  It does not mention his nationality. Toddy1 (talk) 08:27, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It is right now like that. --Obsuser (talk) 13:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short description template 

message: His concert in Belgrade from October 15, 2005 is suspicious because technical worker (TEHNIČKI DIREKTOR) is supposedly named "Čedomir N. Stanković" and human cannot have threepartite name but only name and surname. Visit *web.archive.org or second before of same content at same archive website *(after Miniclip removes /en/ from its 8 ball pool game) to check that and exclude the concert from this i.e. sr.wikipedia.org article (:sr:Здравко Чолић). --5.43.78.53 (talk) 00:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Belgrade concert in 2005

message: I changed the first sentence from "singer from Bosnia and Herzegovina" to "Bosnian-Serbian singer". As per wp:ETHNICITY, the oppening sentence should describe nationality, not ethnicity, not the place of birth. He was previously the resident (and citizen) of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but is not the resident (and citizen) of Serbia. So, this is the only description that is in accordance with wp:ETHNICITY. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:47, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first sentence
Talk:Frank Spangenberg

message: What exactly is his record that should stand forever? His five day record has been broken in five days, even though Ken won many times after that. I think that still qualifies as breaking the record. -R. fiend 19:51, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

message: The article needs more sourcing, but it is readily available: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Frank+Spangenberg%22+jeopardy&btnG=Search+Archives&ned=us&hl=en THF (talk) 19:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing 

message: I removed the adjusted figures because simply doubling Spangenberg's winnings to match clue values post 2001 is not an accurate comparison. It does not take into account risk/reward strategy of betting and assumes that a player who wagered $x,000 in Final Jeopardy in 1990 would wager double $x,000 post 2001. Sottolacqua (talk) 13:04, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjusted figures
Talk:AQAL

message: Should this be at AQAL?  RickK 19:52, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)
:According to Ken Wilber#AQAL, yes; there's also a lot more info on that page than there is here. -- Hadal 19:55, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

message: I've removed the link to the disambiguation page, but I am not convinced "visual" is the intended target.  I have, in truth, little concept of what this page is trying to tell me.  Feel free to correct the redirect - JUST NOT BACK TO THE DISAMBIGUATION PAGE.LeeG 23:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologize that the article is unclear. I would appreciate any more specific criticisms that you could offer. I changed the link to cognitive perspective. — goethean ॐ 14:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation of "perspective"

message: Wilber's example question given for the upper left quadrant "interior individual" does not serve well:  When I tell you it is raining outside, am I telling  you the truth or am I lying? This statement can be tested, and so does not reveal the subjective nature of interior experience.  A better question would be "When I tell you I am in pain, am I telling the truth or lying?" which demonstrates that the interior state is not strictly accessible to other observers. --Blainster 20:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Theory of truth

message: Wilber's theory of four quadrants is week in that it leaves out one aspect.  Martin Buber speaks about "I-Thou" as the basis of a morality of equals.  One could argue that the instrumental value "I-It" is transformed through the recognition of the personhood of the Thou, before the coming of a common understanding "I-We".  This is important as it is the basis of Deep Ecology, in the development of what has been called "The Ecological Self". In fact the whole article reads like an apologestics for Wilber at present.  John D. Croft 01:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Critique

message: Does the topic of this article satisfy WP:N, which requires that the subject has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"?  As it stands, the article does not seem to assert its own notability.  Fireplace 04:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability?
Talk:Jim Lehrer

message: ancestry - What is his ancestry?  Be interesting to have that info.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.39.159.92 (talk) 17:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Much has been made of Lehrer not voting to avoid appearing bias. He told Larry King in 2000 that he didn't vote, and hadn't since covering politics in Texas during the 1960s. In 2006 he told Colbert that he sometimes did and sometimes didn't. I am sure there is more to be found. --IvoShandor (talk) 08:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Doesn't vote

message: I am planning to wait to change Mr. Lehrer's biography until the first episode of the PBS NewHour airs on Monday (7 December 2009) Mataki (talk) 02:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Change in status of show

message: In the Career section it says that he received several Emmys, but later under Honors and Awards it lists a singular Emmy award. Editrite! (talk) 20:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emmy or Emmys?
Talk:Wulfstan

message: I let the four Wulfstans slug it out with a google-fight, and ordered them according to popularity. I don't know if that is a good idea, but it made sense to me. Regebro 20:34, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I reordered them chronologically. Rmhermen 15:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ordering
Talk:Chysauster Ancient Village

message: Why was this text removed ? - please discuss before removing further text.
In 1999 there was some controversy regarding this site and others under the care of the
English Heritage organisation. The Cornish Stannary Parliament wrote to English Heritage asking them to remove all signs bearing their name from Cornish sites by July 1999 as they regard the ancient sites as Cornish heritage, not English. Over eleven months eighteen signs were removed by members of the Cornish Stannary and a letter was sent to English Heritage saying "The signs have been confiscated and held as evidence of English cultural aggression in Cornwall. Such racially motivated signs are deeply offensive and cause distress to many Cornish people". (see external BBC link). * Cornish Stannary Parliament tackles cultural aggression in Cornwall  *BBC news - Historic signs case trio bound over
The bias of this paragraph is currently being discussed at Talk:Tintagel Castle Putney Bridge 23:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy over the site

message: Although the site was in existence throughout the Roman period, it was inhabited by the Celtic tribe, not the Romans. Should it have the "Romans in Cornwall" category?   MortimerCat 06:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  I've removed it now.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman site
Talk:Armin Shimerman

message: Surprised no mention is made of his active role in the Screen Actors Guild - board member for several years, chair or co-chair of several committees, etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:300:7520:B5DF:80C7:195:726A (talk) 11:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screen Actors Guild
Talk:Meggers (crater)

message: From VfD:
This is a non-notable crater on the moon. The connection to its namesake is established here: List_of_craters_on_the_Moon and I don't see much point in copying the positional data from the primary source ( http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/moon/mooncrat.html ) into an extra article; this could be put on List_of_craters_on_the_Moon too. For reference, a notable moon crater would be the Giordano_Bruno_crater. Ianb 21:47, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see the problem with this; it does contain more information than the table you reference (the fact that more information could be inserted into the table doesn't mean it will be); I'd venture that any named crater is by definition notable.  Moreover, it sure doesn't hurt anything by being here or violate any policy.  Keep.  Jgm 22:46, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A slippery slope. Not only is there the Moon to consider, but there are many other bodies - especially Mercury, Venus, Mars and even the Earth - with millions of named and (as yet) unnamed craters. I'll abstain from voting, but not even my social life is dismal enough to get me started on such a project!  Fire Star 22:12, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Wikipedia talk:Image source files

message: Moved from the village pump
Wikipedians have produced many maps, diagrams, graphs and figures available under the GFDL. But just having the image isn't quite enough, because it's hard to edit a diagram unless you have the sources that were used to make it. All you can really do with the image is scribble over the top.
(A real example: I noticed a couple of missing ships on User:Gsl's excellent map at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Battle_of_Aboukir_Bay.png. With access to the GIMP source for the image, I could have added the ships myself. But lacking the source, instead I asked Gsl to improve it.)
So I think that Wikipedia should encourage illustrators to upload their sources along with the image. Of course, not every contributor will be able to use the GIMP, or Adobe Illustrator, or 3D Studio Max or whatever. But having the source will mean that several people can work on an image, and there is a chance to continue to make improvements to the image when the original illustrator is busy or away. Gdr 13:01, 2004 Jul 16 (UTC)
*I second this request. I try to upload the source (wether .psd, source code of some sort, etc) along with pictures. It is sometimes problematic, when the source is a lot larger than the image, but I think it is worth it. David Remahl 16:00, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good start, but I don't think it will scale. The best thing to do would be to put a notice on each image page explaining where to find the sources for that image. To help people do this, the Wikipedia software at Special:Upload should prompt you to upload sources with each image. Gdr 11:02, 2004 Jul 21 (UTC)
Agreed, the ideal place to link them is from the image description page. It is likely to become unwieldy once there are a lot more sources, but we can deal with that when it happens. Having a list like this is helpful in the (relatively few) cases where a source file doesn't seem to have a corresponding image; one in particular is :Image:USA CountiesSVG.zip, which is somewhat general-purpose and could be the basis for a variety of images, while not itself being very useful for illustration. I suspect there may be some designers (particularly in the area of map-making) who are seeking a particular kind of source file to base their illustrations on. Maybe one day that page will just become a list of "raw materials" from which to work, rather than collecting every Photoshop or SVG file we upload. I don't know if prompting uploaders for a source file is the best idea; most of the time, one will not be available, and it may confuse people who don't have one. -- Wapcaplet 16:19, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing sources for images

message: When I try uploading my gzip-compressed GIMP source files, I now get an Upload warning '".gz" is not a recommended image file format.'  Is there any way around this?  I am trying to replace an existing source file so don't really want to switch compression formats. Geoff/Gsl 23:08, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uploading compressed *.gz
Talk:Deepdene (diamond)

message: Does irradiation change the color? We have the Where and What, and the range of When, but the How and Why are missing. This entry is perfectly opaque to ignorant me. Wetman 00:35, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The information about the irradiation contains a complete lack of citations, this needs to be rectified by someone who knows where to look for the articles, thanks. Silent1 23:44, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations
Talk:Drentse Patrijshond

message: Fixed sentence regarding valid colors.  Only valid color is white with brown or orange markings.  First set of colors in first draft shouldn't have been there.  Inadvertently left it in after cutting and pasting the text from another page.  I used that as a template and forgot to wipe out that sentence.
Vic 02:04, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrected colors 

message: I found one painting at the Rijksmuseum with a picture of what is clearly a "Dutch Partridge Dog" -- the man is handing the woman a partridge, which was apparently a double entendre at the time. The painting is The Hunter's Present, c. 1658-60, by Gabriel Metsu. The dog is large - large enough to imagine pulling a cart. I was wondering about that.
--Hafwyn (talk) 18:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Painting 
Talk:Kieren Keke

message: Hello, I was on Nauru in th 60s and had a wisdom tooth removed by Dr Ludvig Keke. Is there any interest in the Nauru of the  60s?
- I just moved this sentence from the article page, and I'd like to encourage whoever wrote it to contribute.  It's the Wikipedia, there's interest in any topic you're willing to write on  --TOO 02:20, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
I have found an image online of Kieren Keke, but I don't know how to add it. Could you explain how tot do that? Mathias Voorhees (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It appears that Keke has dual citizenship. Does anyone know what other country he's a citizen of? Aridd (talk) 14:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found the answer: he has Australian citizenship as well as Nauruan.  Aridd (talk) 09:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship?
Talk:Maurice Rose

message: The entry on the 3rd Armored Division says that General Rose was drawing his pistol to surrender when he was shot. This entry says only that he drew his pistol when he saw the Germans. Are there any objective accounts one way or the other?
I would guess if a German general had come upon a group of American soldiers and drawn his pistol the Americans would have shot first and asked questions later. Who would not do that in a war zone?
If General Rose had intended to surrender he could have raised his hands and stood motionless -- a universally recognized sign of surrender that was usually honored during World War II (at least on the Western Front). Were other Americans taken prisoner at that time who were later able to testify that General Rose had drawn his pistol to surrender? How soon after the incident did the Americans learn that General Rose was dead, and from what source?
We know that the Allied forces spent more than 24 hours killing Japanese shipwreck survivors in the water after the Battle of the Bismarck Sea -- supposedly to avenge the death of an Allied pilot who had been machine-gunned in his parachute by a Japanese pilot. Assuming arguendo that American units attached to the 3rd Armored Division killed German prisoners after Rose's death is there any documentation showing that Americans commited this war crime or series of war crimes to avenge Rose rather than for other reasons? 
Setting aside the general issue of German war crimes vs. American war crimes, is there reliable first hand documention about the circumstances of General Rose's death? (71.22.47.232 (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can anyone help resolve the circumstances of General Rose's death? 

message: Is someone willing and able to re-rate this article? I did a lot of work to expand it and add references and citations, so I don't want to be in the position of reviewing and assessing my own work.
Thanks,
Billmckern (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-rating?
Talk:Reflexive space

message: additional reflexive space: dim<infinity
non-reflexive spaces: c0, l1,   l_/infty ??
How can Reflixive space be defined as "Banach space", when below one can read "Montel spaces are reflexive." No infinite dimensional Montel space is a Banach space.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.23.122.42 (talk) 12:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The 'Montel spaces are reflexive' statement is using the definition of reflexive for locally convex TVSs, while the lead only mentions the more restrictive case of reflexivity of normed spaces. Do you think this needs to be clarified? Algebraist 19:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your change to the lede; for the definitions, I believe that the normed case is by far the most important (the only that was mentioned for a long time) so I feel that the normed case definition should be given before, although it is a special case of the TVS definition. --Bdmy (talk) 20:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: "isomorphism of topological vector spaces" - a homeomorphism ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulsacc (talk • contribs) 12:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: homeomorphism?
Talk:Brian Bosworth

message: This page needs to be renamed "Brian BoSworth" (with an S, not a Z). I don't know how to do that.
:Done. For future reference, see Wikipedia:How to move a page. Note however that you must be logged in. Thanks for pointing out the error, and welcome to the project. -- Hadal 03:41, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: We need a photo of him on the article. 208.103.180.94 20:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: We need a photo of him on the article

message: needs expansion. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NFL career 

message: In researching for a cite for an evidently deleted fact (Bosworth's making the 1987 NFL All-Rookie Team) a Google search linked to the following website: http://www.athletepromotions.com/athletes/Brian-Bosworth-appearance-booking-agent.php
Either huge chunks of the Wikipedia article on Bosworth were plagiarized from this website or vice-versa. Anyone know (or wish to search the article's revision history to find out)? If the latter, it is the booking agency's problem; if the former, the Wikipedia content needs to be edited to make it original. Wikiuser100 (talk) 12:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evident plagiarism 
Talk:Kartuzy County

message: Is there a reason that no commas are used in the number formatting in this article? I didn't want to just go changing those, if it is some sort of cultural thing that I'm not aware of... Commodorepants 04:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Commas?
Talk:The Sandkings

message: Results of deletion debate: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Sandkings. Consensus to keep. DJ Clayworth 21:21, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion debate results

message: There are a number of differences between the show and the short story this episode is based on. Should they be listed? BethEnd 20:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences from the short story
Talk:Alweg

message: The musings of whoever wrote the transportation chapter for the 2013 ASCE publication don’t seem like particularly reliable evidence for why the LA proposal was rejected. It doesn’t identify which “Standard Oil Company,” for instance, and sound like a hazy conflation with the GM streetcar conspiracy.
By contrast, all the newspaper accounts of the time make clear the problems MTA had identified with the monorail proposal and with Alweg’s financing scheme. Auto advocates are never mentioned; in fact, everyone involved seems interested in bringing a modern mass transit system to LA.
Ray Bradbury's musings half a century later seem pretty peripheral to such a brief article.
Dennis McClendon (talk) 04:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: LA rejection

message: The ALWEG Archives are hopelessly disorganized: can anybody figure out eg.
* if the company's name was "ALWEG" or "Alweg"
* what the name comes from
* when Alweg Europe ceased operations
* when Wegematic was founded and dissolved
* when Hitachi-Alweg became just Hitachi
...? Jpatokal 05:57, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled