Template talk:Cathead English people by place

message: I would like to propose a wording amendment so that it inserts the phrase "from the local authority district of XXX" to avoid confusion.  For example on :Category:People from Wigan it would read This category includes people from Wigan in the Local Authority area of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England. It was in Lancashire until 1974.  I think it would avoid some confusion. This would not affect the structure of the cats. --Regan123 19:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  I've gone ahead and added this as there were no objections.  I have not wikilinked it though as I'm not sure it is useful to do so.--Regan123 10:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. I didn't see that note. I'll change to local government district as that is the terminology used to describe them officially. MRSC • Talk 08:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: The template has been changed twice in the last few weeks. In neither case was there any specific discussion prior to the changes - as far as I can tell. Can I make a plea that before any other changes are made, they are discussed here first. Rjm at sleepers (talk) 16:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to this template 

message: This template automatically appends the word "(district)" to the category link for "People from ..."; so, for example, if the "district" value is Trafford, the article is added to :Category:People from Trafford (district).  However, that particular category is a redirect to :Category:People from Trafford.  Either (a) the template should allow classifying people directly to the target category, which currently isn't possible; or (b) the Trafford category should be renamed to fit the "(district)" pattern that the template assumes.  At the moment, I have no opinion as to which approach is preferable.  --Russ (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  District 

message: I've added the ability to use this template in categories where the locality is the only one in the district. It stops the template creating categories of the sort Category:People from Hastings (district) and replaces it with e.g. Category:Hastings

To make this work, the "district=" field is replaced with "category=", as above. MRSC (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Update for locality = district

message: This template was creating Category: People from Cumberland (before 1974) which was pretty unhelpful as all localities that were in Cumberland ceased to be in 1974; therefore :Category: People from Cumberland would suffice. 

To make this work, the "old-county=" field is replaced with "old-county-abolished=", as above. The existing set fields continue to work for counties that changed boundaries and continue to exist. MRSC (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Update for former county = no longer exits

message: This is adding 2 categories to 'Cat:People from X': people from the district including X and also from the county including X. The second is redundant to the first (as Category:People from X's district' will almost always be a subcat of 'People from X's county'). Can this be fixed? Eg :Category:People from Doncaster is placed in :Category:People from Doncaster (district) and also :Category:People from South Yorkshire, and the second is redundant. Occuli (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed in this edit. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:16, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Another quibble: as noted above on 1/1/2009, this template automatically appends the word "(district)" to the category link for "People from ...", which was fine for the old :Category:People from Bassetlaw (district) but does not move the sub-cats to the renamed :Category:People from Bassetlaw. One answer would be to reverse that recent C2D renaming  as contrary to C2C within :Category:People by district in England. – Fayenatic London 20:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick perusal of :Category:People by district in England shows several styles, i.e some have no disambiguator, some (district), some (London borough)‎. We shouldn't be forcing categories to have the extra (district) when the head article/category doesn't, and especially not just to satisfy the requirements of a single template. Tassedethe (talk) 14:18, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Who's up for revising the template with an "ifexist" function for the district category? I see the above example has been resolved by removing the template.  – Fayenatic London 16:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely. That or a way of specifying the actual category name if it doesn't follow a set pattern. Tassedethe (talk) 22:54, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have belatedly done this, and updated the documentation. Here's an example of a category no longer appending "(district)": . – Fayenatic London 10:05, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quibble 

message: The template isn't adding a catsort for the  param (it's adding them under P). See the five cats that use the template within . Could someone with template skills add this please? Thanks, Nzd (talk) 10:45, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please let me know if you spot any errors resulting from that. – Fayenatic London 08:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you, will do. Nzd (talk) 10:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  catsort on borough 

message: please would you or another editor add a tracking category to report whatever is going wrong at :Category:People from Bignall End, :Category:People from Butt Lane, etc? – Fayenatic London 22:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Rathfelder removed 21 categories from Staffordshire, probably because they are in a sub-cat by borough.  Would it be best to make it optional for the template to generate the county category? – Fayenatic London 09:40, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes they shouldn't be in the county category if also in the district category per WP:SUBCAT. Crouch, Swale (talk)  10:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untracked errors