Talk:National Electrical Code

message: Tweaks to NFPA ref (see NFPA talk), history, adoption and impact of NEC, moved rationale to second para, tweak and expand NEC structure summary, fix article nomenclature example (although seems pedantic to include it at all), add Handbook ref,  add “listed/labeled” discussion, rewrote Art 210 discussion, deleted 12-inch from floor statement (floor outlets are generally allowed), added GFCI requirements,  added receptacle spacing refs, clarify GFCI discussion, add NEMA ref to polarized outlet discussion (NEC does not dictate particular outlet pin geometries, but references standards that do), tweaked polarized ref, added GFCI retrofit trick, wikify codify, ref and  licensed electrician, fix ref in FS-1037C quote, deleted redundant wikilink to later NFPA refs, add fire safety and NFPA links.  Although there is a separate GFCI article (with color photos!), it is very lengthy and it may be worthwhile to leave this two-paragraph synopsis here. Lupinelawyer  02:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: spring cleaning

message: It is a nice article.  I added info about AFCI's.  Lots of stuff on the web. This was from the UL site, referencing a page at CPSC: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/afci.html Kd4ttc 22:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFCI added 

message: A recent editor added the italicised text to the paragraph below and another editor reverted it right back out again.
: They are required on all 15 and 20 amp circuits to bedrooms, where experience has shown most arc fault fires originate. In the future it is likely that all circuits will require their use, even though the manufacturers of such devices have yet to work out all kinks in their design.
But so far as I know, the added statement is still pretty-much true: AFCIs remain an emerging technology but aren't yet as accurate as they could be. Personally, I know that I am not yet ready to retrofit AFCIs into my load center given their current expense, the risk of false trips, and the fact that they can't possibly detect "glow faults" anyway.
Opinions?
Atlant 13:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFCIs: Kinkless or not? 

message: The supreme court of the US has said that any work that is incorporated by reference into stautory law must be freely available to those under that law.
Why is there no link to the full text of the (now public domain) NEC?  It should be transcribed/scanned into the WikiBooks project and linked to here. Gigs 16:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully this violates the SC ruling you mention above, but such transcribing/scanning would appear to violate the NEC's license. ErikHaugen (talk) 00:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully? What's your stake in having it remain a closed elitist publication? The NFPA is like the mob, taking their cut from the common citizen trying to access what should be a fully public statutory document. DMahalko (talk) 01:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You misunderstand - see the 'but' in my sentence.  Currently, the NEC's license says the code is not freely available.  You can not scan/transcribe it or use tools other than their dopey reader to read it.  I hope that fact violates the SC ruling - the NEC is essentially law and it is upsetting that it can't be freely consumed.  Laws shouldn't be proprietary. ErikHaugen (talk) 18:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of people, myself included agree! It seems that you can now make the code available as part of a state code see public.resource.org specifically the US Court of Appeals decision in Veeck v. Southern Building Code Congress. Many of these codes are now available at bulk.resource.org. Enjoy! --BenFranske (talk) 02:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not a lawyer, but reading the linked ruling stating it is public domain, it looks like the copyright was upheld and the host paid damages.  The ruling judge wrote dissent in opinion but it doesn't seem like legal grounds for stating it's public domain.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGogmagog (talk • contribs) 21:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The NFPA is not a government agency, and the NEC, when published, is not statutory. It only becomes law when local jurisdictions adopt that edition of the code as law, and even then they are free to pick and choose what parts of the code become law. Your complaint should be directed at the local AHJ, not the NFPA. The local AHJ is responsible for making sure statutory requirements are freely available. The NFPA has nothing to do with that. Primium mobile (talk) 00:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

text: It is up to the government body that incorporates the text into law to make it available. I believe if you locate the section of the Maryland, for example, code that actually is the NEC, it is available online in exactly the same (difficult, paragraph-by-paragraph) way that the other sections of the Maryland code or regulations are.69.72.27.91 (talk) 05:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no link to the full text? 

message: Someone familiar with the 2008 and 2011 NEC should update the AFCI paragraph. Miqrogroove (talk) 04:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFCI Information is Old 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'm not sure enough to make edit seeing as used to ISO rules. However believe NEC now aligns with IEC in that low voltage is 50 to 1000V DC.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikequinnhk (talk • contribs) 11:08, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  High & Low Voltage rule classification 

message: Please further clarify: In some instances in this article, D&D means 'Decontamination and Decommissioning, in other instances it means 'Deactivation and Decommissioning'.
12.33.223.210 (talk) 18:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  D&D