Talk:Durham, North Carolina

message: I have corrected the first paragraph where it had said that Durham was the 4th largest city in NC.  Winston-Salem is larger from sources I've seen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities,_towns,_and_villages_in_North_Carolina  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadetv (talk • contribs) 15:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been recent discussion on this mater on Talk:Winston-Salem, North Carolina#Rank of city size in the state.  –Sparkgap (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Fifth Largest City in NC

message: It's funny how many NPOV warriors their are about the most inane little details, and yet not one person comments on how ethnocentric the history section is, which clearly constitutes NPOV.  Mention the soldiers, not the slaves.  Also no mention of the nationally recognized historic black middle class "Black Wall Street?"  No mention of the rich legacy of the civil rights movement in the city?  Finally, it doesn't even have one citation.  
--71.120.220.202 (talk) 16:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ethnocentric and bland history/NPOV

message: Some of the bla bla like "frequently held by well off liberals" and such are certainly points of view. 24.211.135.6 06:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So, one section at the very end of the article has questionable phrasing and the entire article becomes NPOV? Get a grip people. Bornyesterday 18:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV Discussion

message: *So, I live here, but I think calling Durham a "cornerstone" of the Triangle is a bit overboard.  I think it tips the balance this way rather than equally among Durham, Raleigh, and Chapel Hill.  Any objections to something on the order of "Durham is a city in Durham County, North Carolina, United States. It is the county seat of Durham County, the home of Duke University and North Carolina Central University as well as the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics, and is one of the three anchors of the Research Triangle region of North Carolina." DukeEgr93 02:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other than NPOV Discussions

message: A recent AFD discussion ended in no consensus, but there was some suggestion of merging Durham Association for Downtown Arts into the main Durham article. The article has nothing but redlinks and I don't believe it can stand on its own, but some of the information would be valuable here. -- nae'blis 15:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Durham Association for Downtown Arts

message: Shouldn't Durham's homicide rate be mentioned?  I have read that it is one of the highest in the countries.  Any thoughts?  Wikipediarules2221 00:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the FBI's uniform crime reporting website , Durham's murder and nonnegligent manslaughter rate per 100,000 residents was 6.22 in 2006; for comparison, Raleigh's was 5.45 murder and nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 residents. The national average in 2006 was 5.7 per 100,000 . Sure, Durham is higher than the national average, but it's not that much higher. — Mustang_DVS (talk|contribs) 00:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rate of Homicide

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replies: text: I just added a fair use rationale based on the fact that the image is the seal of the government of Durham, North Carolina and the image is only used on that page.  It is not, for example, part of any info boxes or city templates.  DukeEGR93 20:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Removed the following:  (This seems familiar ... did someone add this before?)  Please provide citation for claims like "highest crime rate." Avoid weasel words like "is considered." -- David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 03:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: OR removed

message: References to this person as a famous resident of Durham have been added and removed several times.  The only references I'm finding on James M. DeVone, Sr. are references to some court cases some comments about a bike pump (apparently his invention) and a dispute involving the Durham City council.  Is this person notable enough to warrant mention here?--Rtphokie 12:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: James M. DeVone, Sr.

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replies: text: , problem solved. --Andrew Kelly (talk) 16:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: 2009 April 15* APK is ready for the tourists to leave 19:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notification

message: North Americans might be surprised to know that the UK Durham is pronounced with a silent "H" ("Durum"), rather than as they say "Dur - ham". It is bemusing for Commonwealth rersidents to hear this strong H, as it is in the name of "Birming-Ham" Alabama ( for british speakers, that'd be "Birming-um"). FWIW , Raleigh (NC) is pronounced "Rally" in modern British English, but I think for the locals it's "Raw-ley". It is an irony that many of these US pronunciations may be  more authentic in origin than the modern British ones..! Feroshki (talk) 02:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: North Carolinians are equally bemused by "Dur-ham," since the local pronunciation is closest to that of the Received Pronunciation style of 'Durr-um' (or, if said very quickly, 'Derm'). — Mustang_DVS (talk | contribs) 21:55, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Raleigh is also (and perhaps most commonly) pronounced 'Rah-lee' in modern British English. --Panzer71 (talk) 12:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Instead of posting surprised musings on a talk page, how about putting a note on pronunciation in the article? I knew County Durham before coming here, but I still don't know how Northern Carolinians pronounce their Durham now. Well, I have to admit, the "strong H" mentioned above helps a lot, that possibility didn't even cross my mind, but I'm thinking more in terms of: first syllable rhymes with "carpark" or rhymes with "curfew".? --BjKa (talk) 15:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: pronunciation

message: I have started a move discussion for :Durham since there is no primary use in my opinion.  If you would like to participate, the discussion is here. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move discussion

message: I worked on the history of Durham adding Civil Rights, and times before the Civil War.
Big Roger (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: History Section

message: On the bottom of the page, I notice that Durham is now a part of the so called The Greater Raleigh Metropolitan region.  When did the US Census Bureau change the name of the Raleigh-Durham metro area?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.5.254.34 (talk) 15:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Greater Raleigh Metropolitan region?

message: See Talk:Durham#Move. StudiesWorld (talk) 13:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Hi.  I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure.  Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline.  I won't be changing any content, merely the order.  Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues.  I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out.  Thoughts?  Onel5969 (talk) 16:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: The usage of "Durham" is under discussion, see talk:Durham (disambiguation) -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "[[Durham]]"

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Durham, North Carolina]] 

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message: Hey everyone one thing that can be changed is Durham's population number. Durham,Raleigh and Chapel hill are very popular places to move to so the 2013 population number should probably be updated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friars22 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated. There's 2014 data up now where we got the 2013. —C.Fred (talk) 00:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population update  

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message: "Bull City" is documented in the infobox as a nickname, but it isn't explained in the article. -- Beland (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "Bull City"? 

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message: As noted in  last year's good article review, this article has potentially copied content from copyrighted sources. The reviewer linked to a Copyvio report. The most likely violations are related to these two sites:
Carolana.com - noted as a 78.1% probability of violation. I am not sure if Wikipedians copied from that site or if the author of the site copied from Wikipedia.
City Website - 66.5%. I think it's reasonable to conclude that the site is copying Wikipedia, as it has copied over Wikipedia footnotes.
Per [WP:COPYVIO], I am bringing up this uncertainty. Better Wikipedians than me can probably more easily/quickly sort out the issue. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:45, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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message: Sports Section
Remove: Duke University's men's basketball team draws a large following, selling out every home game at Cameron Indoor Stadium in 2009.[57]
And replace it with: The city earning the accolade for the the Best City in America for College Basketball Fans by WalletHub. Duke University's men's basketball team draws a large following. In 2019, the Duke Men’s Basketball Twitter account reported 450 straight sellouts at Cameron Indoor Stadium, claiming it as the longest streak in collegiate basketball and the National Basketball Association. [Source: https://twitter.com/dukembb/status/1092842301871792130]
Change 26 sports to 27
Add paragraph: Across all sports, the Duke Blue Devils athletics teams have won a combined 17 NCAA National Championships – seven from women’s golf, five from men’s basketball, three from men’s lacrosse, and one from men’s soccer and women’s tennis. In May 2021, Duke  announced Nina King as the next vice president and director of athletics. [Source: https://today.duke.edu/2021/05/nina-e-king-named-duke%E2%80%99s-vice-president-and-director-athletics] King is the first woman and person of color to lead Duke’s athletic department. On campus, there is a Duke Basketball Museum & Sports Hall of Fame that is open to the public.
Add paragraph about NCCU:
The North Carolina Central University athletic program also competes at the NCAA Division I level. [Source: https://nccueaglepride.com/sports/2010/6/29/ATHL_0629105213.aspx#:~:text=In%201971%2C%20NCCU%20was%20one,an%20NCAA%20Division%20II%20conference.&text=NCCU%20remained%20in%20the%20CIAA,(Football%20Championship%20Subdivision)%20membership]
John B. McLendon, a member of the National Basketball Hall of Fame, was an Eagle head coach from 1940 to 1952 and is credited as the developer of the zone press, fast break and four corners offense. He also orchestrated the first racially integrated college-level basketball game in the South in a game against Duke called “The Secret Game.” The men’s and women’s basketball team today play at the McDougald-McLendon Arena. The men made the NCAA March Madness Tournament in 2018 and 2019 after winning the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference Tournament both years. Dr. LeRoy T. Walker, president of the U.S. Olympic Committee during the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games after founding the university’s track and field program, and internationally-renowned artist Ernie Barnes, who played football at NCCU and in the NFL before creating famous paintings for the 1970s sitcom “Good Times,” are among other notable people with ties to NCCU Athletics. [Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McLendon]
After paragraph about the Durham Bulls, add:
Tobacco Road FC, a semi-professional soccer men’s soccer team playing in the Premier Development League (PDL) plays at Durham County Memorial Stadium. [Source: https://www.tobaccoroadfc.com/] Nearly 70,000 fans also attend home football games for Shaw University, a Division II program from neighboring Raleigh, NC, played each year at Durham County Memorial Stadium. [Source: https://www.shawu.edu/athletic-giving/]
The Durham Sports Commission was established in 2016 as a collaboration of the City of Durham, Durham County, the Greater Durham Chamber of Commerce and Discover Durham. The 501©(3) is one of seven sports commissions across the state and is charged with creating economic and social impact by leading the community’s efforts to attract, support, and promote sports and recreational events. [Source: https://www.durhamncsports.com/about-the-dsc/]
Culture Section
Change title of Culture section to "Culture and Arts".
After: "A center of Durham's culture is its Carolina Theatre, which presents concerts, comedy and arts in historic Fletcher Hall and Independent and repertory film in its cinemas." add sentence from DPAC Wikipedia: “The Durham Performing Arts Center (DPAC) is the largest performing arts center in the Carolinas. DPAC hosts over 200 performances a year including touring Broadway productions, high-profile concert and comedy events, family shows and the American Dance Festival.”
Move and rephrase “Notable dining establishments are primarily concentrated in the Ninth Street, Brightleaf, and University Drive areas” to: Southern Living named Durham "The South's Tastiest Town”. [Source: https://www.southernliving.com/travel/tastiest-town-durham-north-carolina] Durham has notable dining establishments all over, especially in the downtown, Ninth Street, Brightleaf, and University Drive areas. CraigDotCarter (talk) 14:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: None of these requests have been implemented for the simple reason reliable sources were not included. Furthermore, I am unsure whether highlighting only these particular institutions would be undue. Please go over WP:IRS and resubmit with quality referencing. PK650 (talk) 09:32, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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message: * A federal jury awarded Darryl Howard $6 million. The city of Durham will not pay him.
* NC man exonerated on murder charge after 21 years wins $6M lawsuit but city refuses to pay
* wrongful conviction: Durham man who spent nearly 24 years in prison granted pardon of innocence by Gov. Roy Cooper
Not paying any money is incomprehensible on human terms: Do they speculate him to get tired of the fight? If they only argue the amount, why don't they pay an advance? --Myosci (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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message: I found that the article said
:In the mid-1700s, Scots, Irish, and English colonists settled on land granted to George Carteret by King Charles I.
The first piped link was very strange, linking to one memeber of the family while naming another, and seems to have been the result of a conflict in the two given sources. In fact, it seems, the original grant was to George Carteret and his great-grandson John Carteret, 2nd Earl Granville had inherited the proprietorship by the time the settlement happened. I've tried to explain this in the article. 
However, as outlined in Province of Carolina the Charter of Carolina granting proprietorship to Carteret and seven others was made in 1663 by Charles II of England, not Charles I. The story seems clear - that Charles I's grant to Heath was overturned so that Charles II could reward Carteret and the others. I don't like to change this against both the sources we already have, so I'm just going to leave it here for the moment. rbrwr± 16:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Carteret and which king?