Talk:Felix Steiner

message: Is the character Feldwebel Rolf Steiner perhaps based on Felix Steiner? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/ 141.154.152.216 05:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cross of Iron

message: The article states that during the Battle for Berlin, Steiner refused to carry out one of Hitler's attack plans. Hitler is said to have flown into a rage at this (subsequently famous for its portrayal in the film Downfall), although the rage was not directed specifically at Steiner. Nonetheless it seems odd that the article doesn't mention e.g. Steiner being sentenced to death or stripped of his command. Did Hitler punish Steiner for his refusal to attack? Was this punishment ever carried out? How did Steiner survive the war? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fate

message: Unfortunately, I have no access to the direct quote of Hitler's comment to Steiner refusal/failure to carry out the attack. However, being a German, I wish to inform you that the text given is teeming with grammatical errors to the point (even considering Hitler being really worked up) where the source should  be carefully examined.
213.61.58.164 (talk) 13:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Hitler quote''

message: I'm not finding any RS to support the below statement:
Steiner said of the Commissar Order "No rational unit commander could comply with such an Order". He felt that it was incompatible with soldierly conduct and would result in a breakdown in military discipline, and that it was incompatible with giving combat its moral worth. Even if it was on utilitarian grounds, Steiner reasoned that the Commissar Order was to be ignored, as detrimental to good order and discipline.
The claim that Hitler's generals ignored or opposed the order has largely been discredited as a myth, but somehow still lives on. Compare my diff on the Eugen Müller article to what's presented in Manstein's article. 
Are there any objections to removal of the above statement? K.e.coffman (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I will go ahead and remove. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commissar order 

message: Would there be any objections to removing Krätschmer from References? This book is not used for citations, and it's published by non WP:RS publisher Nation Europa:
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K.e.coffman (talk) 03:19, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Krätschmer 

message: From page Felix Steiner:
On 22 April 1945, at his afternoon conference, Hitler, becoming aware that Steiner was not going to attack, fell into a tearful rage. Hitler finally declared that the war was lost, blamed the generals for the Reich's defeat and announced that he would remain in Berlin until the end and then kill himself.
On 22 April 1945, at his afternoon conference, Hitler, becoming aware that Steiner was not going to attack, fell into a tearful rage. Hitler finally declared that the war was lost, blamed the generals for the Reich's defeat and announced that he would remain in Berlin until the end and then kill himself.
From page Army Detachment Steiner:
When, on 22 April, at his afternoon conference Hitler learned that Steiner was not going to attack, according to testimony of his secretary, he was "silent for a long time", and then insisted that the women (she and Braun) should leave Berlin immediately (but they refused). (For cinematic purposes in the Downfall movie he was presented as flying into a shouting rage instead, which does not correlate with the psychology of the situation.) 
These seem inconsistent. Please could somebody with expert knowledge of the sources make them consistent and correct. JDAWiseman (talk) 19:37, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rage, or silent?