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Talk:The Owtsiders

message: "An article is "important" enough to be included in Wikipedia if any one of the following is true:
There is evidence that a reasonable number of people are, were or might be concurrently interested in the subject (eg. it is at least well-known in a community).
It is an expansion (longer than a stub) upon an established subject.
Discussion on the article's talk page establishes its importance.
If an article is "important" according to the above then there's no reason to delete it on the basis of it being:
of insufficient importance, fame or relevance, or
currently small or a stub, or
obscure. (Detailed obscure topics hurt no-one because it's hard to find them by accident, and Wikipedia isn't paper.)"
The Owtsiders is the premier co-ed a cappella group on the Ohio Wesleyan University campus.  Not only does the group establish its own importance through extensive touring, it also promotes its alma mater and draws in a hefty prospective student population.  Hence, a reasonable number of people (the OWU community and beyond) are interested in the subject.  Under the Wikipedia: Importance policy, which still isn't an official policy, the page should not be deleted, even if it might be, as contested, of "insufficient importance."
Regarding Wikipedia: What Wikipedia Is Not, this page and its secondary links (album titles) are objective and non-promotional in nature.  They are educational entries, and within Wikipedia's guidelines.
*Wikipedia: Importance is a proposed policy and therefore does not even have the status of persuasive authority. Indrian 20:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Hoffeld, I did not cite Wikipedia: Importance, I proposed deletion because the band is non notable. See Wikipedia:Notability (music) for more details. You can disagree with this, of course, and cite the reasons at the deletion page of this article (the AfD was started by another user, so I'm obviously not the only one to think that the grop is no notable according to Wikipedia guidelines). Fram 09:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hi Hoffeld,
It doesn't surprise me that Indrian is engaging in something like this. Not too long ago, she was walking a think line between removing lines in the OWU's entry that were part of OWU's mission of "open doors" and according to others displaying homophobic attitudes. That user very likely might not have even gone to Ohio Wesleyan to be knowledgable about the liberal arts college. Hoffeld, I would suggest merging the information into a separate page called List of Ohio Wesleyan University Student Groups. You can post the extensive information that you created there. It would be sad to see your effort go to waste, if the group is notable. Faria 02:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Indrian
Talk:Western genre in other media

message: I spun it off, as the original article at Western (genre) was getting too big and unwieldly.  I was being bold.
dino 19:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine - but the title begs the question other than what ? (Movies, written fiction, TV I take it). -- Beardo 14:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why it was spun off
Talk:Ahmad Raza

message: Hi guys juggled to books in both hands try to scrape together a few lines on Imam Raza Khan - can you add or clean up a little more? will give you any help you need. Mike33 19:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a duplicate article and needed to be deleted.  The main article is Ahmed Rida Khan and I had moved all material there and redirected it towards it.  However it was reverted and I was warned by some editor.  Maybe you should try to redirect :) Hassanfarooqi 13:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up and help with more sources
Talk:Dee Jaywalker

message: This article was written by myself and published in the NEW YORK WASTE 
("Best Punk Rock Newspaper" THE NEW YORK PRESS)
("Paper of record for the downtown scene" THE NEW YORK TIMES)
*You still need to cite some sources other than yourself to comply with Wikipedia standards.  Just fyi.  Wickethewok 20:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Talk:List of grime artists

message: * I think it is important for this list that we restrict it solely to grime artists, as per the description here. I have removed Skinnyman and Jehst, artists who obviously fall under UK hip-hop rather than grime, but I lack the knowledge required of every act on the list, please help remove acts who make urban music without making grime. Jdcooper 19:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion

message: Here we go again, this page already grew to ridiculous proportions in the past. The vast majority of the links were red and for very non-notable artists... the only pages that came up mentionning many of those artists, when googled, were wiki pages. Needless to say, the old page was nominated for deletion and got a unanimous vote to be deleted. It's only a matter of time until the same thing happens here. May I suggest we create a category instead: Grime artists and simply add it to artists who already have a wiki page. --Blahm 13:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support that, I mean in theory i think there should be a list of grime artists in the same way as there is a list for most genres, but in practice there is no easy way for us to determine whether these additions are useful or vanity. Proceed however you proceed, I will support the category. Jdcooper 13:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The category has been created with a few names added. I'll wait a bit and see what other people's thoughts are, but otherwise, I don't think there's anyproblem in redirecting to a Category. --Blahm 14:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Listcruft
Talk:Skinless

message: There really isn't a good deal of factual information besides promotion, but Skinless is definitely a big name in metal today. Please help expand the article. Mike Flynn 19:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I added these guys are from Troy, New York.CABLEFTW 22:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit
Talk:Earl Marriott Secondary School

message: Removed comment about being the largest school. There are many schools larger in BC Wakemp 02:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Largest School

message: Except in extraordinary cases, lists of notable alumni are restricted to people who:
#have an English Wikipedia article to show their notability, and 
#have a reliable source showing their attendance.
Seok Matthew has neither. The link Seok Matthew is just a redirect to the group Zerobaseone. Being a member of a notable group is not sufficient to show the notability of a person. Please stop attempting to add him as a notable alumnus. Meters (talk) 03:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni
Talk:Axis (anatomy)

message: Why does this article link to Peter Dens?  He was a Catholic theologian and doesn't have anything to do with the subject of this article.
:This seems to have been solved: there’s no link to Peter Dens in the article, as far as I can see.--Geke (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I have proposed this merge, between the 'ossification' page and this article, because:
* There is no need for the information on ossification to be hidden away on a separate article. This means the information is not presented as it could be, and it is needlessly fragmented.
* It is standard on Anatomy pages, and recommended in WP:MEDMOS#Anatomy, for 'Development' sections to be displayed on the same page. 
* Additionally, this page is small and it would give more context to have the information displayed in a central location, rather than hidden on a separate article. 
* If necessary, the article on ossification could be expanded at a later date. LT910001 (talk) 07:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Ossification of axis]] 

message: No reason for these pages to be separate; having the dens displayed on the same page gives more context to the information and will likely improve the quality of the information on both pages by removing duplication; additionally improves the readability for readers and reduces needless fragmentation LT910001 (talk) 23:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I don't know why all of these vertebral articles are so fractured and in multiple articles for parts of the same bone. WiiWillieWiki 21:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Dens (anatomy)]] 

message: I would say "dens" (as used in this article) is singular. 
Wiktionary also says that the plural of "dens"  is "dentes". 
Still, the article uses "dens" as if it’s plural.
What can be taken as a good reference to determine this question?--Geke (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is "dens" plural?
Talk:Martin Adler

message: For someone notable he generates virtually no Google hits, Can someone provide evidence of his notability?--RMHED 20:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Faith Fay

message: I have serious doubts about her date of birth being April 8, 1987. That would make her only 16 years old when she appeared as a recurring background extra on Lost, yet she looked much older than that, and it's doubtful that ABC would have hired a teenager as a recurring background extra. Most background extra agencies require the actor to be at least 18 unless they are specifically looking for children or teenagers (such as if the series is set in a school setting).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:5D81:E200:F521:C416:121C:B746 (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have to agree that the date of birth that was shown is problematic - for some years the article stated she was born in 1982,  and this date appears to have been added by a contributor who one might very well conclude is connected with Fay. It has now been removed, along with much other badly-sourced or unsourced content. Any date of birth needs to be confirmed via appropriate sourcing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:55, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth incorrect?
Talk:Farewell Pilgrimage

message: I removed it because the controversy is not really over the verse, it is over the succession. The relevance of the verse is explained under Hadith of the pond of Khumm. It makes little sense out of context. -anon
:Well, it does not change the matter that the dispute is about *when* the verse was revealed, much more than what it means. What it means is a giveaway when the timing is established.--Striver 20:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was 5:67 removed? 

message: There are almost as many secitions as sentences. ~ MD Otley (talk) 08:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why so many sections? 

message: There are no references whatever for this article. An uninformed reader could read it and doubt that the Farewell Pilgrimage ever happened.Grace has Victory (talk) 00:28, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References ?
Talk:List of universities in Canada

message: Multiple schools appear to have outdated student enrollment numbers in the tables, which can be seen if you click a school's name, their dedicated pages are usually updated. Could use an official national source like Universities Canada, e.g. univcan.ca/universities/facts-and-stats/enrolment-by-university/. Or if there's a way to import the numbers from the other pages to be updated automatically here when those pages get updated, that would be even better, but I'm not sure if that's possible. I would update the table, but I'm new to wiki editing, and don't know how to do it without messing up the format, how to add the reference/note with the source, etc. Thanks MorgenMuffelMädchen (talk) 03:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, this is a great idea! I'll try to improve the list format and add your reference to the population list. I'll probably try to merge the many small lists into one big one so we can use the sort function more effectively. From here you can add the new numbers without fear of changing the format. Mattximus (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Table complete! Just missing those numbers you wanted to add! Mattximus (talk) 19:08, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest update to enrollment numbers
Talk:Fashion (band)

message: Fashion weren't part of this scene and any reference to their supposed 'new romantic years' is erroneous. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 14:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not New Romantics 

message: Which is it? AMCKen (talk) 06:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Harris/Harriss
Talk:Tarhana

message: Wikified as part of the wikification drive.  KarenAnn 20:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikified 

message: Macrakis, here are some sources:
"No recipe survives from ancient Greece, but there are several that have come down to us from Apicius. The Roman chef mentions something called tractogalatus, suggesting the possibility that the origin of that particular dish, if not of the product itself, might be Greek. A dish called pullus tractogalatus involved putting cooked chicken into a sauce of milk and honey thickened with crumbled tractum (i.e., trakton). Another dish from Apicius, pulte, is a kind of porridge made of milk and water and thickened with dough balls. "
#"The Old World Kitchen" by British food historian Elizabeth Luard 
#"Byzantine Porridge: Tracta, Trachanas, and Trahana" by Stephen Hill and Anthony Bryer 
via http://www.odyssey.gr/article.asp?entryid=2161&pagecode=02
Don't revert again. Crvst 15:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tractae 

message: Andromeda175, reverting a bad image in favour of the previous, much better image which depicts actual, raw trahana and not trahana soup, is not "nationalism", and the fact you used that word in your edit summary says a lot about how you think when you edit. If you think your image is that good (which I don't) then fine, let's have in the article, but not in the infobox, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images. Hence I am restoring previous image and moving yours further down in the article. Please discuss here if (and why) you object. Macedonian (talk) 21:32, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image.
Talk:Slumbercoach

message: How many Slumbercoaches survived to see service in the Amtrak era?  When did Amtrak retire them, and for what proximate reason?  What routes did they last run on?
Answers to these questions will make great bases for future edits to this article.  —CComMack (t–c) 23:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be the only Wikipedian on the planet who has actually slept in a slumbercoach. For what it's worth, which is negligible, except to betray to all and sundry that I am not a teenager. I can attest that slumbercoaches were utilized on the Broadway Limited between Chicago and New York in the 1970s. This cannot be added to the article, as it is original research, of course.  I think the fare was $60, including accomodations and transportation, which wasn't bad at all for the time. Coretheapple (talk) 00:25, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

text: I guess it's worth asking, but they would have to release the photos into the public domain. Coretheapple (talk) 23:59, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amtrak 
Talk:KDL

message: KDL can also be short for 
Kya dark lineage or Keish Dull Looking.
Added screenshot and a bit more information on Haiku's KDL.   Added ref for the KDL from Haiku's documentation.  Looking for archive.org documentation referencing the BeOS KDL, then i'll drop the "need references" warning.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kallisti05 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Gilbert Brown

message: I removed all of the stuff about Brown's high school days.  I couldn't find any of that info in a Gsearch, and also it strikes me as not entirely notable what he did in a high school game.  But if someone can find a source for it, I guess it could stay. --Deville (Talk) 20:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Silvanoshei

message: His full name is Silvanoshei Caladon, so should we move the page to an article by that name? DoomsDay349 20:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, according to the naming guidelines, the article must be in the most common name, the one the casual user would type in the search box. "Silvanoshei" is more likely to be typed than "Silvanoshei Kanan". Some articles that need to be moved are Kith-Kanan, and maybe Laurana. -- ReyBrujo 21:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just insert a redirect? ddcc 00:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving
Talk:When Stand Up Stood Out

message: Is the spoiler warning necessary for a documentary? Audiodude 20:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler? 
Talk:Chronotherapy (sleep phase)

message: This example looks really weird. The main paragraph talks about chronotherapy primarily as a treatment for delayed sleep phase disorder. but someone with DSPS can't just go to sleep at 5pm on day 1. That's kind of the whole point of the disorder, that your circadian rhythm is shifted late and people can't go to sleep until much later than that - it'd be much more plausible for day 1's sleep time to be 5am, not pm. Is this meant to be an example for ASPS? - 86.7.177.177 (talk) 20:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example 

message: Old Edit number 967257564 completely changed the right way of programming Chronotherapy (3 or 4 hours sleep shifts, check Treatment for "Circadian Disorders of the Sleep-Wake Cycle" article"). The method that the editor provides is completely useless for most patients which find difficult to wake up earlier with the same amount of time. There is a variation of vastly incrementing the sleep time but not the way it's proposed. Please check bibliography for this purpose. I would suggest revert back to the old example which was fine (Old Edit number: 936729840)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SirLouen (talk • contribs) 20:55, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong example
Talk:Terrestrial stationary waves

message: Is this geo-electrical phenomenon real? Has anyone actually measured it? If so do we call it something else? --Dumbo1 20:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

message: Against. As it stands the information in this article is held elsewhere and therefore the article should be deleted. However if anyone wants to expand the article, it may well deserve to stay. Depends what's written. --Dumbo1 21:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The consensus seems to be for merger/deletion.  I'd ideally like to delete it, since "terrestrial stationary waves" were something that Tesla thought up that turned out not to exist.  But looking at Criteria for speedy deletion I don't really see that it falls under any of the specific criteria. Obviously invented doesn't apply to topics with a "credible claim to significance"; the term "terrestrial stationary waves" does have some historical significance.    So the easy alternative is merger.  The question is, what article is the term "terrestrial stationary waves" most relevant to?  It could be a synonym for Schumann resonances; which are stationary waves of the Earth-ionosphere cavity.  My feeling is it should probably be merged with one of the Tesla articles; either World Wireless System, since Tesla was going to base his proposed wireless power system on the waves,  or Nikola Tesla.  Does anyone have any ideas or preferences about this? --ChetvornoTALK 19:04, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Once you remove the WP:MADEUP and the Schumann Resonance (seems to have no relevance to Tesla's "bouncing waves inside the globe of the Earth" theory) we have nothing left to merge - so this looks like a redirect to World Wireless System, it explains this right now, a bit. That article could be expanded a little to further explain Tesla's idea. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 00:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good.  If no one has an objection I'll perform the merger. --ChetvornoTALK 08:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: I Agree. 
GPeterson (talk) 21:27, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you got the page wrong. Please note above the page has already been merged into World Wireless System.  The problem was that the original content didn't have any reliable sources.  If you want to use the content on Surface wave or any other page you will need to provide sources, please read WP:sourcing.  --ChetvornoTALK 23:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge into the "Surface wave" article.
Talk:Hiroki Endo's Tanpenshu

message: It seems like most sites list this as "Tanpenshu," while the cover itself states "Hiroki Endo's Tanpenshu." To nit, if "Tanpenshu" is the right title, then maybe it should be moved to Tanpenshu or Tanpenshu (manga) to avoid collision with the term. On the other hand, it probably doesn't matter much either way. --Bxj (talk) 12:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title isn't clear
Talk:Instruction scheduling

message: We have to add techniques here (just a mental note). --euyyn 21:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

message: The algorithm presented is a bit on the primitive side and doesn't really discuss the direction of scheduling (which is a serious omission.) In fact, in my experience (I've written three and looked at others) list scheduling isn't really done like this at all though scheduling heuristics are a good thing to talk about.
: Sure it's primitive. It says it's the simplest one, intended to introduce the subject. I totally agree it needs to be elaborated. Feel free to expand. Mauritsmaartendejong 10:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  algorithm lacking and confusing 

message: The definition says that processors with an instruction pipeline benefit from scheduling. Well, the 6502 had an instruction pipeline, but scheduling didn't really help performance. VLIW processors
frequently don't have an instruction pipeline, but scheduling is essential. So what is the distinguishing characteristic ? I think we could leave it at 'that improves performance on processors that employ parallel execution of instructions' or something like that. The instruction pipeline link is important of course, but that may be moved to a further introductory section.
Furthermore, the definition says it tries to avoid illegal or semantically ambiguous operations (typically involving subtle instruction pipeline timing issues or non-interlocked resources..
IMHO it should do better than trying. The first bullet is a goal, the second a requirement already implied by without changing the meaning of the code.
On the other hand, instruction scheduling can also be necessary to obtain a correct schedule after instruction selection for a non-interlocked architecture. In that case it's not an optimization, and
it probably does change the meaning of the code.
I propose to limit the definition to the bare essence (reordering instructions as used by a compiler), followed by these two important applications.
Mauritsmaartendejong 18:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  instruction pipeline ?