Talk:Sailor Moon/Archive 3

message: === Meaning of "Senshi" ===
*Could someone explain this to me?  This article (or Sailor Moon, not sure) claims that "senshi" has no particular meaning, but I see it used a lot in other anime, and it's translated into "warrior".  Thanks in advance. Danny Lilithborne 06:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Gjiten: 戦士 (せんし) (n) soldier; combatant; warrior; (P); -- ReyBrujo 07:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite correct. I've attempted to clarify the section of this article that looks like it might have prompted that confusion. --Aponar Kestrel (talk) 07:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from [[Talk:Sailor Senshi]]

message: *Could someone explain this to me?  This article (or Sailor Moon, not sure) claims that "senshi" has no particular meaning, but I see it used a lot in other anime, and it's translated into "warrior".  Thanks in advance. Danny Lilithborne 06:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Gjiten: 戦士 (せんし) (n) soldier; combatant; warrior; (P); -- ReyBrujo 07:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite correct. I've attempted to clarify the section of this article that looks like it might have prompted that confusion. --Aponar Kestrel (talk) 07:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of "Senshi" 

message: I am not a frequent user of Wikipedia, nor am I very fluent in English, but I am definitely sure that the standard would be improved if any edits by user Desrik, a permanently blocked vandal, is removed. He mainly added (in every scouts' articles) that "野", no in Japanese means "field" and the common belief that no means of the is incorrect, but the fact is that this no is used intentionally to mean both. Therefore I pledge to revert his edits.--218.191.131.92 20:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, no. Tsuki no usagi does (as the article currently correctly states) mean "rabbit of the moon". (Or "rabbit in the moon", by parallel with our "Man in the Moon", if you like.) The "field" meaning of 野 is completely irrelevant; likely the only reason Takeuchi-san used 月野 instead of 月乃 (乃 being the old kanji form of the genitive particle) is because 月乃 is a personal name, not a family name. In point of fact I would go so far as to say that, in this context, the fact that 野 usually means "field" is non-notable.  –Aponar Kestrel (talk) 02:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, you could think of the 野 character in her name as functioning as a 外字.  Denelson83  03:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um. Do you perhaps mean 当て字?  –Aponar Kestrel (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  That is a *much* better term.  I used 外字 because that was the Japanese word closest to this concept that I knew.  Denelson83  03:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax description of the name added by user Dasrik 

message: Well, at least the "Which name?" debacle is over and done with.  Reading through I notice that the article isn't really very encyclopedic. I realize that the information I've put under the heading of "Statistics" is commonly found in character profiles and fan pages -- but this isn't a character shrine, it's an encyclopedia article. Surely there's some way to present it more objectively? The "least favorite food" bit should stay, somehow, even if we have to paragraphize it. --Aponar Kestrel 04:52, 2004 Jul 31 (UTC)
* As far as I know the character profile is an official one, though I don't know where it's from. Maybe find out the source and list it as being from there? Purplefeltangel 07:06, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonencyclopedicity 

message: *According to her, yes. Danny Lilithborne 20:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Denelson83  17:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

text: At the end of season 1, she did lose her memory. This was restored in season 2 by Luna. Kyaa the Catlord 18:42, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, she didn't "lose" her memory in that sense of that word at the end of *series* one.  She asked her crystal, as if it was her soul, to lock it away in the back of her mind, and her memory was, as I would say, "compressed and encrypted."  Denelson83  22:48, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  At the end of the series is Usagi still Sailor Moon? 

message: Can someone provide information about the deconstruction of the Sailor Senshi outfits? --User:Angie Y.
:They wave their wands and shout their phrases, and k seconds' worth of stock footage later, their uniforms have assembled around and on them? I'm not sure what you're looking for. If you want information on how to make a Senshi uniform, Wikipedia isn't the right place for that.  –Aponar Kestrel (talk) 14:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember, #1 doesn't have a wand for transformation, she has a brooch.  And that 'stock footage' you see doesn't actually reflect a transformation in real-time.  It's just "fan service".  Denelson83  21:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sailor Senshi outfit construction 

message: Hey this may have been done to death in the past (but frankly I'm not gonna read thru the huge archive to see if it has when I wanna rant about this *now*, sorry.) but I personally really hate that all the sailor senshi are listed under their real names rather than their title (Usagi Tsukino rather than Sailor Moon). I find the titles much easier to remember than the real names and the titles are what the characters are mostly known as. And the same convention has been applied to the Tokyo Mew Mew characters! Blech. As I am much less familiar with those characters and as I find Japanese names quite hard to remember (Japanese not being my native language and all). I find it very difficult indeed to know which character is which. I don't see what's wrong with 'Sailor Moon' or 'Mew Lettuce'. Whoever made the decision to use real names as the page titles took a very poor decision in my opinion. After all the anime is called 'Sailor Moon' *not* 'Usagi Tsukino'. Personally I think the real names should be noted in the body of the article and not as the title. The vast majority of people know the characters by their titles not by their real names. It is like having the Superman article under 'Clark Kent' or the Batman article under 'Bruce Wayne' It's confusing and it isn't what the characters are commonly called.-Skybluepink —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.57.14 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 25 May 2006
:Actually, no, it's not. There is an article Clark Kent, as well as an article Superman. Likewise there is an article Usagi Tsukino, as well as an article Sailor Moon. In each case the first article is (mostly) about the character, the second is (mostly) about the series.
:That said, this isn't much of a rule: Bruce Wayne, Billy Batson, and Peter Parker are all redirects to the appropriate pages (or in Parker's case, a disambiguation page). And I can't really count The Flash or Green Lantern, since both of those titles appear to have been held by three different people.
:It's hard to tell what percentage of "Sailor Moon" hits on Google are really referring to the character and how many are referring to the series. I don't think I'd support a move to Sailor Moon (character), but I wouldn't particularly object either. (I could have sworn this has come up before... but then, hasn't everything?)  –Aponar Kestrel (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character article names: Real names or code names? 

message: I remember quite clearly hearing that Saban had nothing to do with the "Saban Moon" Pilot and that it was another group altogether that did it. I mean, I can see where Saban would be blaimed, it was most certainly the number one source of that sorta thing and with the success of Power Rangers.
But can we get a source on Saban being the ones who did "Saban Moon?  --172.209.113.23 16:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Saban Moon" was a fan parody. Anyone who's seen it would never assume it was a professional pilot episode of any kind. ~EM 169.139.190.6 21:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um no, it wasn't an fan parody, it WAS a proffessional pilot. It was made by Toonmakers  (not Saban as some think Toonmakers made it in the hope of pitching it at Saban actually) more infomation can be found in this article. GracieLizzie 16:41, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I downloaded the movie of that pilot video. It's not very good, what with the cameraman shaking with laughter and all. It was an extremely Westernised version of Sailor Moon, complete with replacement characters to appease both the black (Mars) and disabled (Venus/Jupiter)markets...it's half live-action, half non-anime animation, and ye Gods it is the scariest/funniest thing I've ever seen. To quote the cameraman near the end... "Thank you for NOT doing that!!!" Lady BlahDeBlah 00:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, if there's one word I would choose to describe that "Saban Moon" experiment, I would choose "blasphemous".  Denelson83  04:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saban, did it do "Saban Moon"? 

message: See: Talk:Dark_Kingdom --Kunzite 01:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging Various Articles 

message: #Remove ALL fansites.  Since there are (still) so many fan sites on the internet devoted to Sailor Moon it may be better to remove them all and...
#Link to ONE directory listing.  I propose that we link to to DMOZ Sailor Moon Listings].  It contains as many fansites as you ever wanted to have. 
#If neither of the above... I propose that we use guidelines that the site a) conatin relevent content to this article based upon guidelines.  i.e. 1) contain more information than is contained in Wikipedia's series of Sailor Moon articles.  2) Have been reviewed and listed as "good" by a discerning website reviewers site (i.e. the now defunct AQ) and/or c) choose the Sailor Moon related sites (that meet content guidelines) have the highest Alexa Rankings. d) We allow only one site devoted to a particular aspect of the show. i.e. one site on video games, one site on myu, one general site, etc. 
--Kunzite 00:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As this went almost a week and was unconstested.  I was bold and implemented this per WP:EL compatible suggestion. --Kunzite 23:58, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fansite Proposal

message: I'm just curious why? I can't see anything on this page that explains why the page is protected (none of the discussions seem to be the reason as far as I can tell). Could Denelson83 please explain why? Thanks! (^_^) ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is on my watchlist, and when I opened it up and saw this kind of bickering going on, I had no choice but to intervene.  If you wish to make an edit, just ask me.  Denelson83  01:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I was just curious. List of English dubbed anime, which had this article on it, has been superceded by :Category:Anime dubbed into English, so I added the new category and fixed a typo in another category. Nothing related to any discussions on this page. (^_^) ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I would like to wikify the first reference to "Codename wa Sailor V" -- Seitz 06:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... just wondering, is the protection going to stay until the involved people calm down, or should a discussion be held here? -- ReyBrujo 03:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page protected?

message: There's a recent net rumor going around that Lindsy Lohan is slated to play Sailor Moon. I'd put it into the article it's nothing more than a mere rumor at moment and any chance of it being real may be bogus. Check this site for further details 144.137.74.182
*Check this talk page, I'm pretty sure they talk about it.  It's fake. Danny Lilithborne 13:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lohan as Sailor Moon? 

message: I read on IMDb that the English dub of Sailor Moon is Banned? In the UK, Australia, Canada and America? What's going on there? Please explain, I'm very confused! Isn't it something to do with licenses? 210.50.189.128 07:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing it.  Can you provide a link?  It might be talking about Toei's refusal to license any further Sailor Moon series in North America. Danny Lilithborne 08:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I can tell as DiC's licence has expired I don't think its dub is supposed to be played anymore. So in effect it's banned but that's not quite the right terminology use. At least that is what I've been lead to believe. GracieLizzie 16:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The reason is that the ratings for Sailormoon are very, very poor so they are not showing it on Cartoon Network. DBZ has beat Sailormoon hands down several times which is why the DVDs of DBZ, though released at around the same time are still out there where as the ADV and pioneer Box sets are out of print. It all has to do with money. Of course if Toei coughed up Sailor Stars on time, there wouldn't be an issue. But as it is none of the companies have elected to extend their liscense agreements, and from what I understand none of them can anymore since Toei blocked all liscense agreements probably due to the release of the Anime box sets in Japan which are at least 2 times the price of the foriegn counterparts. (i.e. It's cheaper to get the box sets imported from the US or another country than to buy it in Japan). So it's basically commercial interests on both sides. Check out Amazon.co.jp for the Japanese Sailormoon box sets, and then realize that the SM ones were selling for 80.00 and you'll see why. As for ratings, this was what it was in 2001, and why they were happy to have SM. http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,668629,00.html Compare it to this: http://50.lycos.com/030105.asp That's why there is no new liscense. Catch 22 though. When it stopped airing on TV, the box sets didn't sell, when the box sets didn't sell then they thought they can't show it on TV... Why would they continue with a show that does not sell? Hitsuji Kinno 15:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, it's not taken off because of ratings. It's taken off because the American rights were lost and the creater was fighting Toei regarding rights (iirc) CaravaggioFan 23:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I sourced mine, source yours before making such a statement. It was ratings, at the time of cancelation it was low so Cartoon Network chose not to reoption the liscense to watch so Cloverway (a division of Toei) also chose not to continue. Hitsuji Kinno 18:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is IMDb Wrong??

message: This really is just something minor, but on this page Ami Mizuno is listed as being Usagi's best friend.  Is this really true?  I mean, yes it was Naru at some point, and really Usagi is very close with all the inners... but isn't it implied quite a bit that Rei would better fit this title?  Or should I just shut up?
Psykhaotic 20:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: #1 doesn't have a "best" friend per se; she has many friends, including #2 through #5.  Denelson83  21:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Out of all the Sailor girls I'd say Rei and (in the manga) Minako is who Usagi is closest too. But that's just my opinion. GracieLizzie 11:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree. Without going into details, Usagi in both versions and all versions is obviously a ESFP (Personality type), and they don't *have* best friends. Usagi displays the trait of not treasuring one over the other. One can argue that any are the best friends.  I mean one could say Mamoru is, or Minako... but it's against her personality to favor one person over another which has Canon support. At the begininning of SM it *was* Naru though.
Hitsuji Kinno 19:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usagi's best friend? 

message: I thought I might let you know that Genvid L.L.C. has opened up a new wiki called WikiMoon, devoted entirely to information on the Sailor Moon franchise.  I've already created an account over there, and you can as well.  This will be the only plug for this wiki.  Denelson83  22:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They really need to set a copyright policy.  (Hopefully, one that's compatible with WP.)--Kunzite 00:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  So for now, I advise everyone to not copy text from Wikipedia directly onto WikiMoon at the moment.  Denelson83  01:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or ever, for that matter.  The people behind Wikimoon have chosen to put the site under CC-BY-NC-SA 2.5.  Denelson83  03:04, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. An in-compatible license with wikipedia, so no copy and paste. --Kunzite 12:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think it would be okay if we just linked to WikiMoon in this article, and leave it at that?  Denelson83  05:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the site notable enough? I mean, aren't there more known wikis about Sailor Moon? License isn't a big deal with external links. -- ReyBrujo 13:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Sailor Moon wiki 

message: just noting that Sailor Stars has ben released at Amazon, :D just letting you guys know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.109.174.175 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 30 June 2006  (UTC)
:Most likely it was meant for region 2, which means it won't play in the U.S. and Canada.  Denelson83  20:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sailor Stars Box set released 

message: I feel that charcters beside the Main Senshi and Tuxedo Mask Should get the  hero (Or villan) Boxes to try and keep the looks of the charcter pages uniform. Any Hero or villan that is in more than one episode or in the movies should get one (And if they share a page, put more than one on the page) I have commented on this on a few talk pages but there are too many pages to put it so i'm putting it here. Charcters i think that should defeintly get them are : Starlights, their princess, Luna, Artimas, Helios, Diana, Head Villens (The guys in charge of each set of villens), Semi-head villans (ones that seem to be in charge or are in charge the monsters) Al and En (they don't have a head villen <_<) The Asteroid Senshi, ChibiChibi, Sailor Cosmos, and maybe a few more... 
Also, The Boxes are supossed to be uniform, the top bar is supposed to be pink on all of them denoteing that the charcter came from a Japanse source, and the lower one is supposed to be red for heros and blue for villens and grey for Nutral/other, as of right now, Only Moon, Chibi-Moon, and Tuxedo Mask are correct colors. --Lego3400 18:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started to add them... If the group dicides they aren't needed, just revert them --Lego3400 21:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, Don't go and start removeing the Relitves secitons.. Its only disabled... Until we have final word on wheter its being removed they stay in case it gets re-enabled. --Lego3400: The Sage of Time 17:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Come again? --  Denelson83  18:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People have started to remove the Relitves section from hero boxes becuse it is dissabled as it is under debate whether or not it should be removed. If it gets re-enabiled it will cuase more work to re-add then it would to leave it while it is not visable.
--Lego3400: The Sage of Time 20:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, relatives!  I understand now. --  Denelson83  20:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hero Boxes" 

message: ummm i just wanted to kno how many episodes are there in sailor moon????
*It says in the article. Danny Lilithborne 02:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  hey