Talk:In pectore

message: Wasn't Pope Leo X also originally named cardinal in pectore? 4 Mar 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.132.146.220 (talk) 08:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: He was not. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment 

message: Can someone explain why a Pope would do this? I don't understand what good a Cardinal can do if nobody knows he's a Cardinal. Thanks! FreplySpang (talk) 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment 

message: Currently, the article says that the only 20th-century case of expired "in pectore" appointment was that of the 3 cardinals named as such in 1960.  The FIU cardinals site says that there were 2 cardinals named "in pectore" in 1916 and only one (Adolf Bertram) was eventually published.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 19:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Added now. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: One other unpublished 20th-century cardinal

message: Indeed the article does not make clear if an in pectore cardinal himself is notified, however secretly, that he has been made a cardinal.  It is obvious that such appointments are made "in the eyes of God", therefore secular notification is unnecessary per se; still I would imagine that even He would not choose to ignore common courtesies.  :-)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.225.95 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Strange

message: I don't know much about the history of this stuff, but on the article Papal conclave, 1431 it says that Pope Martin V initiated the custom of creating cardinals without published their name right away, and links here. But in this article it says Pope Paul III was the first to initiate this custom. Someone who knows more about this stuff should probably fix this.  Wgunther (talk) 02:05, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Miranda doesn't think Martin V made in pectore appointments because he shared the information (he says they were "known to the other cardinals", but there's a good source that calls Martin's appointments in pectore. Martin certainly didn't publish them initially and did publish them later, which seems just what we'd expect for in pectore appointments. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pope Martin V 

message: The article doesn't make it clear how the process of creating "in pectore" cardinals occurs. Does the Pope, at a consistory, declare "I wish to create x amount of cardinals" (or some other phrase) without disclosing the name(s) of the cardinal(s) created, revealing them at a later date? 101090ABC (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's exactly what happens. See this New York Times report. "Pope John Paul II named 14 new cardinals today, including his new Vatican Secretary of State. The Pope said he had chosen a 15th cardinal “in pectore” — in his heart — and there was speculation that the unidentified cardinal was from a Communist country." Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:38, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question 

message: See Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-07-22/Wikimanía report (as of  21:42, 24 July 2015):
davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Term used at 2015's Wikimania 

message: www.catholic-hierarchy.org appears to state Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici was Elevated to Cardinal "In Pectore" 9 Mar 1489
If true, this page should be upated.
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdeme.html
Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici
9 Mar 1489	13.2	Elevated to Cardinal	In Pectore
23 Mar 1489	13.2	Appointed	Cardinal-Deacon of Santa Maria in Domnica
26 Mar 1492	16.2	Elevated to Cardinal
9 Mar 1513	37.2	Elected	Pope (Roma {Rome}, Italy)
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1492.html
Pope Pius III (Francesco Todeschini-Piccolomini)
Consistory - 26 March 1492 Published (Previously a Cardinal In Pectore): Giovanni de’ Medici
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1492.html
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1489.html
Consistory - 9 March 1489 Pope: Innocent VIII (Giovanni Battista Cibo) Created Cardinal:
Lorenzo Cibo de’ Mari †, Archbishop of Benevento, Italy
Ardicino della Porta (Jr.) †, Bishop of Aleria, France
Antonio Gentile Pallavicini †, Bishop of Orense, Spain
André d’Espinay †, Archbishop of Bordeaux, France
Pierre d’Aubusson, O.S.Io.Hieros. †, Grand Master of Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St John of Jerusalem
Maffeo Gherardi, O.S.B. †, Patriarch of Venezia {Venice}, Italy
Giovanni de’ Medici †
Federico Sanseverino †, Administrator of Maillezais, France
YourHumbleServant (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.catholic-hierarchy.org appears to state Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici was Elevated to Cardinal "In Pectore" 9 Mar 1489