Talk:Coretta Scott King

message: I posted it shortly after her death and linked in here. I recently noticed it missing and relinked it a few days ago, only to see it gone again tonight. Is there a process of approval I'm not following? The piece is (I think, and hope) well researched, passionate, and conscientous. All of the visual and text borrowing falls within fair use, and the sources are linked and referenced. Sorry if I'm betraying ignorance about Wikipedia etiquette here, or about anything else. For reference, the article is this: "You Can't Do All of It By Yourself"
http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2006/02/coretta_scott_k.php
Pete Scholtes, petescholtes "at" gmail.com (2/1/08)
:Wikipedia does not consider blogs reliable sources. They are rarely, if ever used for article content, including external links. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 08:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question: Why does my article on Coretta keep getting deleted from "External Links"? 

message: Hi! I really enjoy how the articles are very thorough most of the time it really helps with research, but how come none of her native american heritage is mentioned at all?? She even physically shows traits that are native american and not african american? So is this article being biased or has this fact been over looked as with many people who are classified as african americans. I looked the Black Indians article which has helped me understand some of these issues even better, and explains why so many of my friends look different physically. Thank You for your time.98.206.116.222 (talk) 06:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Information in articles has to be sourced to a reliable source, and so far no editor has come across a reliable source claiming such. Basing our opinion of her heritage on how she looked would be original research, so we cannot include the information on the basis of that opinion. If you'd like to include this information you'll need to find a reliable source that discusses it. Natalie (talk) 13:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: It doesn't matter what the actual subject matter is - everything has to be documented with reliable sources. We can write that she's African American because that's supported by actual sources, but you haven't actually provided any evidence that King is actually part Native American, other than your personal assessment of her appearance. I can't see how this is biased or unfair at all - every claim has to be supported. Isn't that kind of the definition of fair? Natalie (talk) 22:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  She's part Native American why isn't this stated in the article she not just African American 

message: At the first paragraph it has the gibberish: "She is like the beautiful, lovely wife of Martin Luther King Jr."
I can't seem to see that in the "edit this page" section.
Could somebody remove this and explain here how they removed it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.182.91.94 (talk) 21:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism I can't remove 

message: I removed the following from the first paragraph:
: ... following Dr. King's death, Mrs. King was responsible for finding a new leader of the civil rights movement; when Josephine Baker and others turned down the leadership position, Mrs. King took on the mantle of leadership herself, remaining an important voice in American politics until her death in 2006 (Please note: There is absolutely no reference to Josephine Baker on page 363, the first page of the index, where "Baker" would appear, in Mrs. King's memoir, "My Life With Martin Luther King, Jr." New York: Holt Rinehart and Winston, 1969. Nor is there any discussion whatsoever in her book of Mrs. King being "responsible for finding a new leader of the civil rights movement.").
It is not clear how this dispute should be resolved; but this talk page seems like a more appropriate venue for handling such issues. --Tenmei (talk) 13:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious text 

message: Coretta Scott King's date of passing is January 30, 2006, not August. Please correct this.
173.242.78.122 (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I'm not sure why the lead listed her death in August. The article correctly gave her death in January further down in the article.4meter4 (talk) 18:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Death 

message: Are there more references than just the one reference in this section? Bay Area Native (talk) 21:58, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT Equality - only one reference? 

message: The article claims that Coretta Scott King's wrote a glowing endorsement of JNF's forest, planted in her honor.  The glowing quote can be found on the JNF website.
This quote is clearly dubious in nature.  According to JNF's site, the forest in question was planned and planted as a result of sections of forest which burned down in the Israel Lebanon War.  The Israel-Lebanon war occurred in July/August of 2006.  Coretta Scott King died in January of 2006.  Hence there is absolutely no way she could have known about the forest being named after her, let alone comment on it. Poyani (talk) 18:17, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious Quote Regarding JNF forrest 

message: I've always been somewhat disappointed that we have chosen to use the current image all this time, when I think others would benefit the article greatly. I have no problem with the size, though it is small and does hamper in my opinion what is otherwise a very good article about a very wonderful person. I do believe that we should change the image, preferably to something that displayed her in her prime. I propose around the time Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. passed or prior to that. Justin  —Preceding undated comment added 02:38, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile picture change 

message: there are a lot of syntax and word usage problems in this long article. they can't be corrected by someone who does not know what word was intended. the author of this piece should correct them, they're distracting and confusing.
Purejuice (talk) 07:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syntax and Word Usage Problems 

message: IP-address user made 2 bad-faith edits to the lead and infobox to remove mentions of support for LGBT rights.
05:24, 12 May 2015 Deceitful edit description of "Fixed typo" (-16 bytes) to remove mention of Gay rights in occupation in infobox
*Differences link
*Changed “Women's rights,<S> Gay rights,</S>”
05:26, 12 May 2015 Deceitful edit description of "Fixed typo" (-62 bytes) to remove 2 mentions of LGBT rights work in 2nd paragraph
*Differences link
*Changed “Women's Movement<S> and the LGBT rights movement</S>.”
*Changed “opposition to apartheid<S> and advocacy for LGBT rights</S>.”
The section "LGBT equality" and its refs clearly supports the deleted text sections, so I restored them.
I have no experience undoing vandalism, so I don't know if it should be reported somewhere—please inform if so.
<BR>— Mwr0 (talk) 04:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  99.38.233.74 Bad-faith edits to remove mentions of LGBT rights 12 May 2015 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: :The quote "I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people...", is dated 2003 here and uncited. Wikiquote dates it to 1998 and ascribes it to Reuters. Marnanel (talk) 13:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people" 

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message: I found the information regarding Coretta's Maternal Grandfather, Martin to be partially incorrect from my experience.  Martin was not abandoned by his father, nor was he unacknowledged.
His father was Thomas McMurray of County Antrim, Ireland and came to the U.S. as a young man.  Martin was born at a time later in his father's life, but still in the time of slavery.  Thomas McMurray, who was employed as an Overseer, not slave-owner, claimed his son as his own, not wanting a child of his to be a slave, as the law would have it.  Had he not done this, Martin would have become the property of Thomas' employer, the farmer who owned Martin's mother.
Thomas gave Martin his name (spelling it "McMurry" without the "a") and raised him to adolescence.  Some years after the Emancipation, Martin's mother returned for him and Martin was asked if he wanted to go with his mother or stay with his father.  His father told Martin that if he chose to go with his mother, that he (Thomas) would never see Martin again.
Martin chose to go with his mother.  However, it is not certain that Martin never again saw his father.
This story was told by Martin to his first and oldest child, Emma McMurry, instilling a pride in his "Irishness" which she carried throughout her life.  This, along with various customs, tales and information about Ireland which Martin learned as a result of being raised by his father Thomas, was also passed on.
SOURCE:
My paternal grandmother, Emma McMurry Jenkins.
Carol J. Jenkins (talk) 19:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  re:  Maternal Grandfather, Martin 

message: In this article, the last name "King" is sometimes used to refer to Coretta Scott King and sometimes to her husband, Martin Luther King Jr. Sometimes it is not clear which of them is being referred to, and sometimes it is only clear because of the pronouns used.
Here's an example of a sentence referring to Coretta Scott King as simply "King": 
Here's an example of a sentence referring to her husband as simply "King": 
Here's an example of a sentence where it's not clear which of them is referred to: 
It should be clear by now that this is a problem — we cannot have two different people being referred to by the same name in the same article. However, it's not clear to me what to do about it. As far as I know, Wikipedia does not have a policy on this matter (please correct me if I am wrong!). [EDIT: We do have a policy, at MOS:SURNAME. It states, "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only – without an honorific prefix such as "Mr.", "Mrs.", or "Ms.", and without academic or professional prefixes like "Dr.", "Prof.", "Rev.", etc. – or may be referred to by a pronoun. ... Generally speaking, subjects should not otherwise be referred to by their given name."] 
There are, I believe, several possible solutions to this problem: 
* We could refer to both people by their full names at all times. This might become awkward, but is perhaps most respectful.
* We could refer to both people by their first name only, except upon introduction. This is somewhat disrespectful, but it is relatively common when talking about, for example, the Curies.
* We could refer to Coretta Scott King as Mrs. King and Martin Luther King, Jr. as Dr. King. At times in the article, Coretta Scott King is referred to as Mrs. King, but I think that usually on Wikipedia, we do not use honorifics within articles, except within cases where those are the most notable names.
* We could rewrite the article such that Coretta Scott King and only Coretta Scott King is referred to as simply "King." This seems like the most natural choice to me, since she is the subject of the article, but it breaks gendered conventions and might be confusing to the reader. It also raises the question of how to refer to Martin Luther King Jr.
Thoughts?
Birdsinthewindow (talk) 03:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistency problem with names 

message: She had 4 kids 12.108.229.229 (talk) 00:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! You are correct that Coretta Scott King had four children. I am not sure what your question is. Would you mind clarifying? Birdsinthewindow (talk) 21:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  How was the life has a motherOn her 

message: we arent sure where the grave is but all we know is she is by and loved by marten luther king jr 74.84.104.98 (talk) 20:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That's very sweet! Just so you know, Coretta Scott King is buried at the King Center for Nonviolent Social Change. See Death and funeral of Coretta Scott King for more information. Birdsinthewindow (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  we arent sure where the grave is but all we know is she is by and loved by marten luther king jr 

message: we are loved and worrieing about her 74.84.104.98 (talk) 20:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  we are loved and worrieing about her 

message: we loved her!!!!! 74.84.104.98 (talk) 20:39, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  we loved her!!!!! 

message: The segment that states "She said that despite the Martin Luther King Jr. being away from his children at times,..." has the mistake of saying 'the' before MLK's name. Is this a mistake or is this fine? Drbulba2 (talk) 07:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling mistake or am i stupid 

message: Martin Luther king's wife was a very hard working lady and was a very good violin player . She also showed her children how to play the piano witch is a very hard instrument she also played the trumpet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.43.76 (talk) 08:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2024