Talk:Public nudity

message: :The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 12:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: For the record, I thought I'd still include the following, even though the move occurred whilst I was originally inputting it.
: Add any additional comments
:* Current title [then "Clothing-optional activities on public lands"] strikes me as very cumbersome, as if trying to be "politically correct" but with tongue-in-cheek? So I support a change to something straightforward. However, I propose Public naturism or Naturism (public) in case there are people who'd be perturbed by an article title including the word "nudity" or "nudism".
Regards, David Kernow 13:04, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have struck out my observation above as I agree it was ill-conceived. Thank you for pointing this out. David Kernow 22:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment input whilst move was underway

message: This article, and particularly the Non-sexualized section needs some cleanup.  Currently it reads as a collection of disjointed observations.  There is a lot of material in there which can be used but it should be moved out of list format whenever possible. --StuffOfInterest 19:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagged for cleanup 

message: Does this article REALLY need so many images and so many (unsourced) quotes? wikipediatrix 23:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  Feel free to fix it. Just zis Guy you know? 11:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just did. Left only the celebrity quotes, and removed a few images that already appear on other articles, plus one that was just plain silly and borderline spammy. Also corrected "Wiccan" to "Neo-Pagan": Wiccans aren't the only people who say "skyclad". wikipediatrix 02:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overkill 

message: I've added this image as an example of a protest where toplessness is being used as an attention-getter or "draw" for an issue other than toplessness itself.  Please note that the caption up to and inclusive of "2005" is required by the license of the image and must not be altered or removed.  The portion of the caption after "2005" is my addition and could be altered, if needed.  Kasreyn 11:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: topless protest image 

message: I notice that we have an image of the Rage Against the Machine protest of the PMRC (in which they sacrificed their timeslot at a concert while standing nude with taped mouths and "P M R C" written on their chests).  I'm not sure whether adding this might be a bit too many nude protest images; would three be too many?  Kasreyn 02:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RATM protest 

message: We all (all of us with the gift of sight) know what a nude person is and what the outdoors looks like. Most of the images here are redundant - 2 or 3 of the most technically excellent images, or images related to important events in the history of public nudity, are all that's needed. Currently the article has 12+ images, with the only common theme being "naked people, outside". Seen one, you've seen 'em all! (excluding certain artworks, which may or may not be relevant) --kingboyk 15:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just deleted the most recent addition while reverting another edit. Should I perhaps remove some of the other ones as well? -- NORTH talk 22:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: It's a lot easier to get women to take their clothes off.--Damorbel (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way too many images 

message: I'm just posting this here because my edit summary for my last edit was truncated.  There's been a minor revert war going on regarding a link to the story in Brattleboro.  I feel that the story is relevant, but I also agree that the link to the blog entry was inappropriate for this context.  So instead I've included a link to a better article with a non-spam link. -- NORTH talk 09:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vermont 

message: This image is absolutely unnecessary. There are more images in this article than there are in the PHOTOGRAPHY wiki--riiiiight. The image clearly isn't a candid one, it's a model posing for the shot, it's Photoshopped, it's -porn-. Are people so dumb that they can't imagine for themselves what a nude person on a beach might look like, even after being shown TWO (!!) nude people in a forest? --Somnilocus 11:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beach Photograph 

message: Events which include public nudity are generally classified by whether or not activities are  sexualized. This enables potential participants who are concerned about sexual activities to avoid such events. Organized naturist events will normally be understood to be non-sexual, in both public or social (non-intimate) situations. 
Generally, the reputation of an event is widely known. If the event includes both sexual and non-sexual activities, the areas of sexual activity can be segregated with restricted access or proper signage. In cases where organizers want participants to be clear about what to expect, they will clearly advertise and label the event as being family-friendly, non-sexual, naturist, or nudist. This will avoid unwanted behavior and garnish community support. In any event the organizers should enforce good manners and appropriate behavior as problems occur.
In high visibility events, this clarity of context often helps determine whether participants can be cited for indecent exposure or whether the activities may be legally deemed obscene, lewd, or lascivious. 
I have deleted this part because it has no relevance. Gardenparty (talk) 01:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted "Establishing expectations"

message: I disagree with some of your changes and will revert the image removals tomorrow.  The way to work on Wikipedia is to build consensus when someone takes an issue with changes to long-standing article format, not just edit war with the person.  Your etiquette in this regard is poor.  See you on the article tomorrow.  --David Shankbone 23:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever, your image is not that great. Please explain why it should be at the top as an example of public nudity. There are other better images and I will replace weaker ones with stronger ones.User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 23:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Topfree fashion image removal

message: Why was this removed as an EL? It seems on topic and gives a fair amount of info re. public nudity, laws, etc.Bob98133 (talk) 13:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of Libertarian link

message: I think this is a good addition to the article, but placing it so high up gives it undue importance, since the article focuses more on voluntary public nudity - so it doesn't address forced public nudity in concentration camps, tribal nudity or other non-voluntary public nudity. Maybe it could be moved closer to the bottom of the article?Bob98133 (talk) 14:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Necesity

message: Remove the stuff about nudity being legal in Spain.  It is simply not true.  The Spanish naturist federation claims that it is, but the only true part of their claim is that it can't be prosecuted anymore on the basis of a law against disrupting public morals, since this law has been repealed.  However, it is possible on the basis of other laws.  The situation is no different than that in other European countries, neither on paper nor in practice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.29.77.101 (talk) 15:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spain 

message: Can someone provide an overview of where public nudity is officially legal resp. not? Maybe there's also different degrees of legality (topless / total), degrees of penalties and enforcement. A map like that on the page for Same-sex marriage would be perfect, but for a start, a text list would be fully sufficient I think. 82.209.175.58 (talk) 06:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would be far more complicated than the same-sex marriage map. Whether same-sex marriages are legal or not tends to apply uniformly across a country (or at least a state), the laws on public nudity can vary down to the level of it being legal an illegal on adjacent beaches, and in many countries whether it is legal or illegal in a given place can have no bearing on whether or not you will be arrested for it - topfreedom even more so. Thryduulf (talk) 10:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I don't disagree with you. If you can cite difference please go ahead. The challenge we have with WIkipedia is that it reflects cited facts, and these are not always 100% congruent with reality. I added the cited fact which may or may not be the complete picture. Fiddle Faddle 08:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is not yet consensus to make the change to England and Wales. WIthout a citation this is original research, I'm afraid. So I have had to revert it. I appreciate the good faith with which the edit was performed. Fiddle Faddle 10:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality / Laws 

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message: Do you think public nudity for both sexes and all ages should be legal permanently?--Jasonfitz (talk) 16:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but Wikipedia talk pages are not a place to start a forum discussion (see WP:NOTFORUM).  This page may only be used to suggest changes to the article itself.  Qwyrxian (talk) 02:28, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legalizing public nudity 

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message: The article (a) contains a good deal of unsourced material, including entire sections that are unsourced; and (b) contains a good deal of material derived from primary sources (e.g. worldnakedbikeride.org, www.treespiritproject.com, www.jackphoto.com, http://www.henning-von-berg.com/, http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng/pages/search.aspx?i=001-147623, &c.) and sources that are otherwise unreliable (e.g. https://www.unconstitutionalarkansas.org/, https://www.templetons.com/brad/burn/, &c.). It is being tagged accordingly.
I wonder if the article is even needed at all, or if any useful content contained in it could just be moved to nudity, naturism, or somewhere else. SunCrow (talk) 04:41, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues

message: Since I am editing the main article on Nudity, I did a little cleanup here, removing "Nudes-A-Poppin", since it is a private event, and renaming the section that contained no real examples of sexual public nudity.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 04:21, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A little cleanup, more needed 

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thread_title:  Removal (by commenting out) problematic photo