Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Archive 8

message: Hi folks. New to making wikis. I was wondering about those pages that say "this page is part of a (subject) project" and was wondering if we could unify articles pertaining to Philippine Mythology and Philippine Prehistory?  There seeems to be a lot of variation in these articles, both in terms of extent of content relative to one another and the nature of the content of each article.  Does putting these topic under a project banner resolve this?
Also there doesn't seem to be much conversation going on regarding confusing things like what the distinction is between Philippine mythology and Philippine Legends, or the differentiation between the various ethnic mythologies (Tagalog, Visayan, Igorot, etc) of the Philippines. 
Right now, for example, the Philippine mythology wiki has what i believe is an unfair focus on Philippine Legendary Creatures.  Mythology is a much more expansive topic that covers more than just creatures, I'm sure, but I don't quite know how to fix it.
Er... hope this isn't a stupid thing to bring up. Hehe.
Alternativity 17:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippine Mythology and Philippine Prehistory Projects? 

message: Below is a message from User:Zscout370:
:The blue shade flags are on Wiki now at :Image:Flag of the Philippines (light blue).svg and :Image:Flag of the Philippines (navy blue).svg. -- User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do apologize for not posting the message myself, but I was finishing up :Image:Coat of Arms of the Philippines.svg (the version based in RA 8491). Enjoy. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm surprised the old one was replaced.  Technically, as long as the people have not voted in a referendum designed to adopt the changes to the national symbols per the Constitution, the new CoA should not be used for the time being.  --Sky Harbor 05:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Give me a day or two and I can try and put in the eagle and lion in the arms. When I drew the arms, I followed what was said in RA 8491. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 09:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are we fussing around re-rendering the coat of arms? the one used on wikipedia is absolutely the official one.Gareon 12:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is one currently used .PNG? Methinks the .SVG is better but the lion and the eagle should be added. --Howard the Duck 12:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I finished the lion this morning, going to work on the eagle in a short time. If the image is not finished today, then it will be finished tomorrow. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can have both.  The present one (with eagle and lion) is PNG, the one without is SVG.  Converting the present one into SVG would be better than keeping it as PNG.  --Sky Harbor 21:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I finished the lion today, I am 1/3rd done with the eagle. As I told Pinay in an email message, what I would do is I would rename the current SVG file as Coat of Arms of the Philippines (RA 8491).svg and upload the official arms at Coat of Arms of the Philippines.svg once I finish it. Would that be satisfactory? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

text: We also need a navy blue flag. From the commonwealth era, until marcos, and after marcos until the prescription of the new law, the blue field of the Philippine flag was navy blue, similar to the US flag. Scorpion prinz 23:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Already covered, :Image:Flag of the Philippines (navy blue).svg. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The navy blue should actually resemble the navy blue of the US Flag. Scorpion prinz 03:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Philippine Flags from [[User:Zscout370]]  

message: As much as I support the healthy growth of Wikipedias, I am concerned if this is the case with Chavacano.  According to that wiki's recent changes list, an anonymous editor is placing articles which, under my inspection, are in Spanish rather than Chavacano, being just copy-pastes from the Spanish Wikipedia to the Chavacano one.  What do we do?  --Sky Harbor 23:47, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Checked location here but found it here--Pinay  (talk•email) 00:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, user is in Spain. You are right, these are all in Spanish and not Chavacano.  Maybe he is planning to translate to Chavacano after all these Spanish articles are transferred?--Pinay  (talk•email) 00:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I (not anonymously)also placed Spanish versions (and bad Chavacano). The anonymous guy was also adding Spanish versions. Weekeejames said it was easier for him to use the English version and translation so somebody must have read this and started adding them. The processis messy. I'll be using the Chabacano translation request page from now on. I'm trying to learn Chavacano but the bulk is done by Weekeejames.--Jondel 10:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Chavacano 

message: I am not sure if Wikipedia lacks free photos of Arroyo, but I managed to upload :Image:Arroyo, Putin, Chang APEC Hanoi 2006.jpg so far. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Image:Putin Arroyo Russia-ASEAN Summit 2005.jpg is another find. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GMA photo 

message: Re: showing U.S. agencies instead of Philippine agencies-
:No bots edited it, so maybe what happened is someone took this from the US Portal and just didn't change them at all. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed all US entries from the page, feel free to add the PH items back in. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Government offices are listed here and in http://www.gov.ph/directory --Pinay  (talk•email) 03:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot for helping me in this portal. I was just mum on this portal to all of you  because I was so busy creating new articles that I had no time to discuss it to all of you. So, I think, I need to rest some bones and just continue to contribute later. -- Kevin Ray 07:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm adding a bunch of bureaus, but some have been misclassified.  For example, CHED is not under the DepEd, rather, it is under the Office of the President.  --Sky Harbor 11:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Portal:Government_of_the_Philippines/Topics]]

message: Hello! After repeated urgings by Scorpion prinz (and because it's the holidays—more free time), I have updated :Image:Ph_map_manila_large.png with :Image:Ph_map_manila.svg (it's in the Wikimedia Commons). This is an SVG version so there should be no scaling issues unlike with the original PNG version. I think everything's set for replacement. The problem is that I since the original file is in the Wikimedia Commons, the original PNG is used across Wikimedia's projects (e.g., Italian's it:Manila). And so, I know of no way to determine all the uses of the original file. An additional complication is that the original is a featured picture. I'm not sure how the FP status can be transferred to the updated map. --seav 10:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uy..thanks, finally this is more accurate. Congratulations. uhm my alma mater, it's actually Don Bosco Technical College, not Don Bosco Technical Institute :-( it's correct on the old one. anyway congratulations. Scorpion prinz 14:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a new Map of Manila 

message: I've begun as a personal project an investigation of characters in Philippine Folk Literature so I can update and citation-improve the relevant Wiki entries.  This week, it's Tikbalang week for me, and next week, it'll be Bernarndo Carpio.
But it doesn't seem like I'm gonna learn how to put graphics in anytime soon and was wondering about maps...
The locator map of Laguna with the appropriate town highlighted and named is okay for the individual towns, but I was wondering if a map could be made with each town named and the national highway(/s) shown? This would be great for tourists, drivers, and researchers
Also, is it possible to have geographical maps showing our mountaing ranges? Doesn't have to be uber-accurate - the same quality as the inked maps in Lord of the Rings would be quite sufficient. I have trouble looking for maps with geographical features of the philippines. :-(
Or at least I need advice on where to find and download these maps. :-) The ones I find are either too detailed and unwieldy or so small they're unhelpful for data at the provincial level.
Thanks. Alternativity 16:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  And speaking of maps... 

message: Most of Metro Manila's seals have been removed from certain pages due to a lack of information regarding licensing.  For example, in the Metro Manila page, only the seals of Manila and Makati remain.  If anyone can help me add the remaining seals back with proper information, that would be great.  I have already done the one of Pasig City.  --Sky Harbor 11:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seals 

message: Hmm it seems to me there are a lot of active Filipino Wikipedians out there while randomly looking at edit histories of varied Philippine-related topics. But looking here there's only a few of us. I think maybe we should promote WP:TAMBAY to other Filipino Wikipedians, place a message on a user's talk page who you know is Filipino (edits RP related articles or has a is a Filipino userbox on their userpage) and let them know that this place exists. Eh? Berserkerz Crit 17:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. I have just recently been doing that. Maybe we need a welcoming committee, too,...--Pinay  (talk•email) 18:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And a welcoming template to boot. =D Berserkerz Crit 19:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please post when we got this welcoming template done...--Pinay  (talk•email) 23:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE [[WP:TAMBAY]] 

message: Kindly help us improve article related to kuliglig or hand tractors since its a popular innovation in Philippine provinces. Jeepney is a good article. --Exec8 18:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuliglig 

message: Re - It might be a good idea to create a naming conventions section at Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines.  SWAdair | Talk 09:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When a certain type of article has multiple ways of being named, members of a project often will decide how articles in the scope of the project should be named.  See Wikipedia:Naming conventions for some examples.  SWAdair | Talk 04:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: So, Chris, do you think, as per suggested, we need to add a naming conventions section (like Others) to the manual of style?  If so, we need to  have a long list/short list of words, examples. --Pinay  (talk•email) 15:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the naming convention for, first of all? I'm kinda lost. ;-) --Chris S. 02:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, it was in response to this redundancies issue or discussion here followed by this--Pinay  (talk•email) 02:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming conventions

message: The category for this discussion page is: 
Categories: Filipino politicians | Presidents of the Philippines | Lists relating to the Philippine presidency | Vice Presidents of the Philippines
Strange. (_|_) --Weekeejames 21:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's because of the templates that were posted here. It's gone now since they were archived. --Mithril Cloud 05:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category 

message: The signature image of Emilio Aguinaldo is missing again. Can anyone please post it back. It looks like it has been removed due to the licensing again. Thanks!!! --Glenncando 18:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uploaded by SunKing (notify | contribs). Image that has to be used under fair use provision, but does not meet fair use requirements: no source, used for illustration purposes in infobox, no fair use rationale.- YellowDot 13:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 06:13, October 7, 2006 Howcheng (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Aguinaldo Sig.png" (Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 October 1) --Exec8 07:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is from a public document, you can use .  --Sky Harbor 23:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aguinaldo signature 

message: Should it be moved to San Jose de Buenavista, Antique? According to this "de Buenavista" is a recent addition to the name. --Howard the Duck 14:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO, I suggest keep it as is for now since that is the most commonly known name anyway, at least until for sometime, if not a longer time, but redirect San Jose de Buenavista to San Jose, Antique...--Pinay  (talk•email) 15:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you did it already! Very proactive Howard! Good job! --Pinay  (talk•email) 15:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't do anything. It article was sitting at San Jose, Antique, and still is. The problem is that SJDB is the complete name, and looking at the Provinces of the Philippines, and there are 2 provinces with "San Jose" as their capital, I'd thought, why not add "de Buenavista" to distinguish it from San Jose, Dinagat Islands (don't forget about the 2 San Fernandos) --Howard the Duck 15:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant the redirect of San Jose de Buenavista, Antique to San Jose, Antique - oh, User:TheCoffee did it. Check here ...Well, it should be an easy merge? or move, then. After all, if there are redirects, then they will still be directed to the article...--Pinay  (talk•email) 16:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[San Jose, Antique]] 

message: Hey lets work together in making dynamic maps or those maps with links. 
Lets look at the following: 
*Template:United_States_Labelled_Map
*Template:England Labelled Map
*Template:South_America_Labelled_Map
Maybe it can be used in Regional maps or Provincial Maps. Using this type of map users will simply click on the province, municipality or city they want to visit.
--Exec8 16:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made some (last year) for the UAAP, NCAA Philippines, and Bulacan. I wonder if there are free satellite images that we can use... --Howard the Duck 12:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I uploaded :Image:Philippinesaerialview.jpg  and :Image:Mapphilippines.jpg in Commons sometime ago. --Pinay  (talk•email) 16:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried doing this but this quite difficult since the country is an archipelago, there are many provinces, and their names are long. --Howard the Duck 11:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dynamic Mapping 

message: Philippines will be hosting another edition of the Asian Games, Asian Beach Games in Boracay, Malay, Aklan. If it will push through, it will be the 2nd time the Philippines hosting an OCA event after 60 years (1954 Asian Games) and 9 years after the 2005 Southeast Asian Games. --Exec8 04:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2014 Asian Beach Games]] 

message: I had just finished yesterday a 2 days ago, articles about the positions in the Senate of the Philippines:
*President pro tempore of the Senate of the Philippines
*Majority leader of the Senate of the Philippines
*Minority leader of the Senate of the Philippines
But there are a few people whose biographies aren't available like: Leticia Ramos Shahani, John Henry Osmeña, Ernesto Maceda, Sotero Laurel, Manuel Briones, Melecio Arranz, Jose Roy, Jose Clarin, Esperidion Guanco, Neptali A. Gonzales, Wigberto Tañada, Estanislao Fernandez, Gerardo Roxas, Cipriano Primicias, Tomas Cabili, Vicente Francisco, Benigno S. Aquino, Francisco Enage, Francisco Villanueva, and here's one more thing: Try to click this: Orlando Mercado... he was a senator of the philippines but in wikipedia, it's a baseball player! Can we make Orlando S. Mercado to differ it from Orlando Mercado. --- Kevin Ray 12:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Solution for that one is to use Orlando Mercado (politician), then make a disambig link on both articles. -- Mithril Cloud 04:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually liked Orlando S. Mercado, unless the baseball player also has a S middle initial. Or maybe the baseball player has a diacritic? Hmm... --Howard the Duck 05:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have also made another article: Party leaders of the Senate of the Philippines which gives an account on both of the party leaders of the Senate of the Philippines. -- Kevin Ray 09:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New articles for the [[Senate of the Philippines]]

message: For those who did not read my warning on seals posted in earlier discussion, this will sound quite interesting: the nightmare of  struck us again with the deletion of all the seals of Metro Manila excluding Manila, Makati and Pasig.  If they can be re-uploaded with proper rationales, that would be very nice.  --Sky Harbor 23:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're unsuccessful in finding them here, look at Wikipedia mirrors. Sometimes they store the photos. --Chris S. 00:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: (Off topic: Chris, can you undelete USTLogo.jpg? I dunno how/why it was deleted. --Howard the Duck 06:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Weee thanks. However as for Philippines-Gov images, did the Foundation gave a ruling already? --Howard the Duck 07:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It is on the Agenda of the next Board meeting for Wikimedia, which I am not sure will occur. I emailed all of the concerns to User:Danny. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 10:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrongful deletions 

message: Check where these can be used:
* :Image:Arroyo, Putin, Chang APEC Hanoi 2006.jpg 
* :Image:Putin Arroyo Russia-ASEAN Summit 2005.jpg  
* President Arroyo
* :Image:ArroyoNov06.jpg
* :Image:Arroyoleyte.jpg
* :Image:Arroyo030206.jpg
* :Image:Arroyo and rumsfeld.jpg
* Arroyo with Bush at White House
*  President Arroyo with President Bush 
from User:Zscout370 from (Return Fire) and --Pinay  (talk•email) 05:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  free GMA photos 

message: A friend just shared this with me today, and I maybe the only one that missed this. It may not be for Wikipedia, but it certainly is worth watching as Filipinos. This is what our country needs and is worth reflecting. --Pinay  (talk•email) 04:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did this come from TV? --Howard the Duck 05:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A former Jesuit just gave me the youtube link. Don't know if this was on TV. --Pinay  (talk•email) 06:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow that's great! Erap and GMA lol. Sadly, I've never seen this on TV. I don't think this was shown in the major networks, or at least it hasn't been played a huge amount of airtime. And good job on the Eskaya article Pinay! =) Berserkerz Crit 09:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Re Eskaya - Thank you. Please peer review it. Thanks. --Pinay  (talk•email) 19:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this copyrighted? I don't watch YT vids much, it's sooooo slow... --Howard the Duck 09:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me double check with the ex-Jesuit contact. --Pinay  (talk•email) 19:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ehemplo 

message: Can some admin check out User:Wowowee 13? S/he's been uploading like crazy, and s/he's tagging them with misleading tags, and he doesn't give his/her sources. Tagging his/her images for deletion is getting tiring. --Howard the Duck 09:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image uploading 

message: Here's the PB, the pride of Bohol, for your listening pleasure. Enjoy! --Pinay  (talk•email) 19:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On a ligher note... 

message: * :Image:Ph_map_manila.svg is up for Featured Picture nomination (to replace :Image:Ph_map_manila_large.png).
* :Image:Ph_physical_map.png is up for  again.
Please go and vote! Whether support or oppose. The feedback and constructive criticism will certainly help. (And because these are the only Philippine-related Featured Pictures we have so far. --seav 23:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Belated update. :Image:Ph_map_manila.svg is now a featured picture, replacing the older PNG image, and :Image:Ph_physical_map.png has been kept from delisting. --seav 17:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured picture nomination/delisting 

message: I need help with "watching" over this page.  I have not verified the 2 latest information additions to the page, and would certainly appreciate help in verifying what has been recently added to the article, or if it is not in violation of Wikipedia's policy on Biography of Living persons. Thank you very much. --Pinay  (talk•email) 16:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Cesar Montano]] 

message: User:Bubuyog has uploaded a bunch of pictures taken by various people from PBase and added those images to appropriate Wikipedia articles. Unfortunately, he tagged them all with the Template:attribution attribution template. I'm not so sure the photographers have given their permission for their pictures to be used in this way. --seav 06:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images with dubious copyright info 

message: May I ask your input, especially the "matured" & "seasoned" Filipino Wikipedians if puede na i-nominate for  GA ang 2 articles.  Your input for their improvement is needed. Salamat. --Pinay  (talk•email) 11:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From the minimal scanning, I think these articles are quite good already. A couple of minor sticking points: 1) the description section of Chocolate Hills seems a bit too touristy. 2) Some spelling, grammar, and copyedit corrections are needed. I think you can nominate them already or have them undergo the peer review process. =) --seav 13:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Seav. Both already peer reviewed. See talk page for archived peer reviews. --Pinay  (talk•email) 15:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

text: good articles! One minor remark. While translating Philippine Tarsier to Dutch, I found that it has two sections called "habits". Magalhães 14:06, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me check on that. And thank you. (BTW, long time no hear! how are you?)--Pinay  (talk•email) 15:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, indeed. Hmmmm. How did that happen? Well, let me work on that, but really, I want to thank you for noticing that and pointing that out. I  really appreciate it. --Pinay  (talk•email) 15:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed it! Merged the two sub-sections on Habits to form only one. --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 19:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not matured or seasoned (hehe) but I've perused the articles and contributed edits I think are needed. The Philippine Tarsier looks good already structurally and content-wise while the Chocolate Hills still needs a lot of proof reading and editing. I say go with the Tarsier GA nom and while that is going on let's work on the Hills and then nom it after Tarsier passes. =) Berserkerz Crit 13:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for all the work you have done on both articles. It is really appreciated! --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 19:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Chocolate Hills]] and [[Philippine Tarsier]]  

message: Searcher007 modified the already-closed Kristine Bernal AfD and at the same time cursed Howard. I reverted the edits and added two warnings on this user's talk page: first, for the edit, and second for the NPA. I have not yet, however, reported the edit to an admin because I'm not clear if editing an archived AfD needs admin attention (so please let me know more about this). --- Tito Pao 17:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better ask an admin at least. Editing an archived AfD, which clearly has "do not edit" on it, is a serious thing. Shrumster 19:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Searcher007|Searcher007]] and the already ''archived'' [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kristine_Bernal|Kristine Bernal AfD]] 

message: Let us improve the the articles on award winning bodies in the Philippines. These include a complete database of winners.
* Philippine movie award-giving bodies
* Cinema in the Philippines
* FAMAS (Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences) (website)
* Gawad Urian (Manunuri ng Pelikulang Pilipino) (website)
* Luna Award (Film Academy of the Philippines) (website)
* PMPC Star Award (Philippine Movie Press Club)
* Cinemalaya Independent Film Festival (website)
* Metro Manila Film Festival 
--Exec8 01:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motion Picture award winning bodies in the Philippines 

message: I took a quick look at the user pages of the Tambayan's members and noticed that a good number have studied in one of the colleges at the University Belt. So I created an artice about it. Please feel free to add any information about the district that we've always loved to hate (especially during the rush-hour morning traffic when it's final exams season ;) --- Tito Pao 02:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice start. I like the pic alright. Hey might want to look up Anak (song) by the way, I spruced it  little ;). Berserkerz Crit 12:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Is there an official definition of the term "University Belt"? I understood it to also include Intramuros and the Taft Avenue universities and colleges. --seav 16:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is none, but several imply that the Sampaloc-Quiapo-San Miguel area is the University Belt, notwithstanding Intramuros and Taft are also "university belts." --Howard the Duck 17:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The Intramuros also hosts a lot of universities but I don't know with Taft (La Salle and CSB only?). Whatever the inclusion, this article can definitely be expanded to cover other "University Belts". Berserkerz Crit 12:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Taft Avenue (and vicinity) institutions include: De la Salle University-Main , College of St. Benilde, University of the Philippines Manila, St. Scholastica's College, St. Paul College of Manila, Phil. Women's University, Phil. Normal University, Adamson University, Technological University of the Philippines, Emilio Aguinaldo College. So there's many. --seav 02:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps an article on Taft Avenue should be created, there's Malate, Manila already. As far as I'm concerned, the Sampaloc-San Miguel-Quiapo area is The University Belt. --Howard the Duck 03:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[University Belt]] 

message: Hi guys, I hope somebody would look into Philippine symbols. Most are okay but there are no articles for Cariñosa, Baro't saya, and Livistona rotundifolia (I'll cover this one). The first two are not in my expertise so I leave them up to you. Thanks in advance.--Lenticel 04:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippine Symbols 

message: I've opened a discussion if whether or not local and barangay elections should be added at the main elections page. --Howard the Duck 16:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Elections in the Philippines]] 

message: See this PCIJ blog entry on Eastern Samar. Is this infringing? Is it fair use? I think I mentioned before that they used another image from Wikipedia without attribution. --seav 20:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the pic itself is free under the GNUFDL. All GNUFDL says is that the GNUFDL must be applied to any copies/derivative works as well, making sure that everything remains free. Shrumster 20:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PCIJ is using our locator maps 

message: An anon with the IP address 125.60.243.22 has persistently been vandalizing school articles by removing information. At first this anon vandalized the De La Salle University-Dasmariñas article numerous times, now it's vandalizing the University of the Philippines, Los Baños article by continuously removing properly referenced information from the article. The anon doesn't respond or react to warnings placed on its talkpage, making it problematic. Hope that some action would be brought upon this anon vandal. --Mithril Cloud 01:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion. Thanks, Mithril Cloud. -- Corsarius 12:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persistent anon 

message: So Ferandre (talk) has been going around various provincial articles and slapping North Luzon Super Region onto them. Is this something we want? --Chris S. 03:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better block that person and the articles posted are merely fictional. Yes its true that there was a Northern Luzon Super Region but not to the fact its going to be a federal state like that person want to imply. --Exec8 13:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole article's a joke and fictional. Since I don't think it will pass at AFD, paring it down will do. And mentioning the bare essentials (what PGMA said on her SONA, and what places comprise North Luzon Agribusiness Quadrangle (the article name is even wrong, lol) would do for the meantime. --Howard the Duck 14:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess what? We now have practically redundant articles for The Ilocano Diaspora and the North Luzon Super Region and The Ilocano Language and Literature and the North Luzon Super Region. --Howard the Duck 16:48, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North Luzon Super Region? 

message: Just saying that the article has been moved to its new name without discussion (won't really intervene since demographics isn't my forte). --Howard the Duck 14:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's been reverted. I don't understand the reasoning behind as to why it was moved. --Chris S. 19:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here...explanation please! --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 20:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Reply: Actually it was a (immature) protest on the revisions on the Malay people article but since there is already a Malay race article, I'm withrawing my protest.--23prootie 23:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Filipino people]] -> [[Filipino (identity)]] 

message: There is a new AfD up for the article Bakit Labis Kitang Minahal which, despite several warnings, still does not have the proper sources. Please feel free to participate in the discussion; I myself cannot verify the truthfulness of the article, even on ABS-CBN's website, but I may be wrong about this. As an aside, please be warned that one of the editors of this article, User:Wowowee 13 (talk) , has removed the AfD instead of adding the needed sources; just to be sure, I've added a warning on his user page for this template deletion. --- Tito Pao 12:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bakit Labis Kitang Minahal]] 

message: Kindly check the neutrality of this article especially the Controversy section... I think that the editors of this article are taking a cheap shot against GMA. Also, I've noticed that the references of this article links to blogs of the editors. -Danngarcia 16:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Blogs are a no-no...I will be deleting all of the blog links shortly. I'll take the hit for this, but I don't care. --- Tito Pao 17:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! --- Tito Pao 17:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire controversy section reeks of original research and should be stricken from the record. While I do find it amusing, that's the sort of stuff that belongs on a webpage and not wikipedia. Anyone care to do the honors? Shrumster 20:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality of [[Super Twins]] article 

message: Can an admin speedy delete Primetime Bida? I've tagged it since yesterday and no admin has acted on it. --Howard the Duck 10:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already speedied, courtesy of Lectonar :) --- Tito Pao 20:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedy delete 

message: I believe that this article can be expanded, maintained and improved to be a feature article on the main page. Please help contribute. Thank you. --Weekeejames 11:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subic Rape Case 

message: I've just added "unreferenced" tags to shows that does not have proper citations and "someone" keeps on reverting my edits on this article's Upcoming Shows section... He/she keeps on adding shows that are not yet been publicly announced by GMA... please help me... -Danngarcia 12:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made reverts and added user warnings. I suggest that you take a look at the user warnings so that you can add warnings as necessary, so that these users will know why their edits were reverted. Just let me know if you need more help =) --- Tito Pao 13:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I WILL run out of 3RR as I had to re-revert this page when another anon undid my revert. I'll give as many warnings and explanations as needed, but in the meantime I won't do another revert until tomorrow =( --- Tito Pao 16:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for helping! BTW, can we request to semi-protect the page so that anon users will not able to revert the changes? -Danngarcia 16:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if that's possible, but if an admin will allow it, then we can take the chance to improve the page---by finding all the references we need, and by cleaning up the page and removing the unsourced/dubious future show titles. --- Tito Pao 16:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is crazy. Guess what? It's un-reverted again...this time, by a different anon user. Methinks there is a cabal or a brigade from the Kapuso forums who still insists on keeping the disallowed links, despite WP:EL. I won't revert for now, but I'll post a warning.--- Tito Pao 21:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It also looks like most of the reverts were made from different IP of the same provider...I've performed WHOIS lookups of these addresses and found out that they are all AOL IP addresses from the same location (reported as from London). Maybe that could give us a clue on how to best handle this case? --- Tito Pao 21:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've re-reverted the page again and I requested for the semi-protection on it's talk page... Hopefully it will be approved... -Danngarcia 07:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It seems to be protected now...on with the clean-ups :) --- Tito Pao 17:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GMA Network's upcoming programs 

message: Hello! I'm not sure if this issue has been brought up on the Tambayan before, but at any rate I'll share this information. The ArbCom has an interesting case (actually, more of a resolution to a debate) about users who happen to be minors. In particular, the issue was about protecting children's privacy. The case closed last December, so you may want to read the ruling made by the ArbCom on this issue. If you know someone young in your family who also happens to have a Wikipedia account, you may also want to remind them about not disclosing too much personal information on their user page, for their own protection :) --- Tito Pao 20:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the information Titopao.  The discussions on the ruling are indeed very enlightening. --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 07:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems quite interesting...I am aware of four minors, including myself, who identify/have identified themselves as part of the Tambayan (and others who don't), and this has not emerged as a problem so far for us.  Although if the policy is made retroactive (I joined more than a year and a half before this became a problem), there goes suspicion.  If suspicion is exercised with care, it shouldn't be a problem.  --Sky Harbor 13:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I understand, the decision was made with the US' COPPA law in mind, among other things (COPPA was mentioned in one of the rulings). This would mean, then, that the ArbCom has 13 year olds and under in mind --- although, of course, in other jurisdictions (such as the Philippines, where no similar law exists), the age bracket would understandably have been different. Also note that a proposed policy was created out of this ArbCom decision, but it has yet to gain official policy status (the debates in the talk page are much more interesting, though). --- Tito Pao 14:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much, the main goal of the CHILD policy suggestion is to prevent the indentification of minors under the COPPA statutes. While we are not legally supposed to follow it, there have been times where I needed to delete information about under < 13 people that told people what school they went to, their schedules and that was way, way too much personal information. If the userpage is like "I am John and I am 12" and that is it, I usually will not bother with it. But if you name your school or name the street you live on, I will usually deal with that. No one is being banned for their age, but what usually happens is that the information is oversighted using WP:RFO and warnings are issued. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 16:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia and users who are minors 

message: Do we have a template like this one? Not that I mean to gaya-gaya them, but I think we should have one to help improve Philippine-related articles and association with Tambayan. I actually saw this template at the Spratley Islands article that I found to be far from being neutral and mostly favorable to Chinese POV. Since Spratly Islands refer to the international or more specifically, Malaysian and Indonesian name on this chain of islands, while others claimants have their own name, I think we ought to have a Freedom Archipelago (our name to this island group) article focusing more about the islands and only about the Philippine claim (The Philippines is not claiming the entire Spratly Island group, but a part of it known as - Kalayaan island group) while strictly adhering to wikipedia's NPOV policy.  --Weekeejames 23:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have a Wikiproject talk page header (although the tambayan isn't a Wikiproject). Its Wikipedia:WikiProject Philippines/notice. --Howard the Duck 08:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That notice though I believe is quite redundant with , which can be rewritten to meet our needs.  --Sky Harbor 09:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody (ok, very, very few talk pages) uses either of them, anyway. --Howard the Duck 09:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Conceded, but then again, that's the point of using the template, right?  --Sky Harbor 11:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you'd ask me, either will do, but the newer template has more functions (displaying if FA, GA, importance, etc.).  --Howard the Duck 11:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's about the need to improve all Philippine-related articles and associating them with Tambayan and not just articles to improve for feature status. We have been improving articles only for feature status when we should strive to improve all Philippine-related articles. Parang interested lang ata tayo sa recognition and seems like its not about improving everything that is Philippine-related (this is just an assumption). Isn't it time to change this kind of attitude? --Weekeejames 12:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was planning months ago to tag every talk page I see with the new notice but I got lazy and there's no beneficial reason for me to do so. Also, promoting this place is beneficial since there would be cooperation on improving Philippine-related articles. Everytime a spot a newb, I'll include a link to WP:PINOY on the welcome message. --Howard the Duck 12:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  template for Philippine-related articles 

message: I'm not sure how many of the tambays here are fond of using the user talk page warning templates (I use these a lot), but at any rate, here's a heads up: some of the templates have changed drastically, and instead of having about four to seven different levels of warnings, there are now only four for each class of offense, with the fourth being the final warning (i.e. the next offense should lead to a block). 
Please be aware, too, that some of the template names and the transcluded texts have changed a lot, as do the look and feel. (The old templates, though, still seem to work). --- Tito Pao 13:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New user talk page warnings 

message: User:DanteTagle (Talk) accused me of vandalism (lol) when I shortened the section titles, etc. Also, I suspect he's from the pro-Cha-Cha camp, since his contribs are biased. I'll be running of 3TT (for shortening section titles?!), so if anyone can revert, thanks. --Howard the Duck 07:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added warning to User:DanteTagle's talk page and also to the anonymous IP address's talk page, since the edits from these two editors were committed in a short space of time and since the same tone of language was on the edit summary. I'll be watching this article, too. Pakiramdaman lang if this somewhat-irate editor repeats the same act and one of us might run out of 3RRs :) --- Tito Pao 14:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will be standing by. I will just be a buzz or a ting away...--Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 15:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

text: By the way, I rewrote the article on charter change inserted in the 13th_Congress_of_the_Philippines, I tried to make it as unbiased as possible. Scorpion prinz 14:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charter Change 

message: I need help with citations from UST files for Arnold Zamora.  Please message me in my talk page or via email.  Thank you! --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 16:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's Howard the Duck and a ffew others. :) TheCoffee 02:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the info. I need a check on yearbooks, newsletters, other references on Fr. Arnold Zamora,  specifically his involvement with the Logos Choir, Psalterion Choir,  UST Senate circa 1981 - 1984, etc.  If anyone can help, that will be very much appreciated. Please post citation directly in the article or message me. Thank you. --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 05:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  is there any [[University of Santo Tomas|UST]] alumni or student in the house? 

message: I also need help with more third party feedback for this.  See Talk:Chorus Paulinus for details. --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 19:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Chorus Paulinus]]