Talk:Environmental toxicants and fetal development

message: Cleaned up references, made footnotes, sectionned, some grammar. Really needs an expert, not cleanup. - FrancisTyers 01:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Toxins are poisons produced by biological organisms. Please change the use of toxins to something like "Toxic Materials." Lead is not a toxin; it is a toxic material.
Merrium Webster's definition:
Main Entry: tox·in 
Pronunciation: \ˈtäk-sən\
Function: noun 
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary
Date: 1886
: a poisonous substance that is a specific product of the metabolic activities of a living organism and is usually very unstable, notably toxic when introduced into the tissues, and typically capable of inducing antibody formation
Kevin CBRN Defense  (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Toxin

message: I suggest you include teflon with environmental toxins.    see:   http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124363
Arydberg (talk) 18:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  PTFE 

message: I moved the following table to here, because the reference implies that it covers the entire table, but I don't find a corresponding table in the source article. Before insertion, I'd like an explanation regarding how the reference can support the text. Mikael Häggström (talk) 11:55, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text was not found in reference 

message: Hi Mikael, you did a great job with this article! However, you moved it without discussion and thus without consensus. And I oppose a move. Environmental toxins in pregnancy puts the emphasis on the mother - the one who is pregnant, and not on the fetus. Also women are at higher risks during pregnancy, for instance, smoking can cause premature rupture of the membranes. However, the article is not about the women during pregnancy, it is about the fetus during fetal development. However, the title is a bit clumsy, so if you would like to move the article for instance to Environmental toxins during fetal development, that would be fine with me. Kind regards! Lova Falk talk 20:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your input. I've started a discussion about the subject below so that we can hopefully reach a consensus about what to do. Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:29, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted move 

message: :Environmental toxins and fetal development →  – This article is about effects both on embryogenesis and fetal development, and should therefore have a title of a broader scope. I did get feedback above that use of pregnancy may put the emphasis on the mother, but I think it does much less so than e.g. "maternal exposure to environmental toxins" which is also frequently used. Also, the mother is involved in the subject, such as in having the main power to prevent exposure to environmental toxins as described in the #Avoiding environmental toxins in pregnancy section. Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In recent edits I tried to make it clear that there are multiple pregnancy end-points that are relevant, as also seen in the section on individual substances and toxin classes, and Structural congenital abnormality (which is tied to the scope of teratology) is only one of those pregnancy end-points. Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A "pregnancy end-point" is about the same as "an effect on pregnancy", and I see that the corresponding section in the article has been changed to "Effects" for easier reading. In any case, I get your points, and I find it acceptable to keep the article under the "Environmental toxins and fetal development" title. Mikael Häggström (talk) 11:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "Environmental toxins in pregnancy" 

message: Thank you Mikael Häggström, but now I wonder about this first sentence of the section Effects: Environmental toxins can be described separately by what effects they have on various pregnancy end-points -meaning: ... described by what effects they have on various effects on pregnancy?? Shouldn't it just be: .. described by which effects they have on pregnancy? Lova Falk talk 20:21, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I fully agree that mentioning "effects" is enough, especially since examples follow that sentence to make its meaning even more clear. I've shortened it down now. Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Effects on various pregnancy end-points

message: suggest to change the title given the misuse of the term toxin-- see toxicant.--Wuerzele (talk) 05:11, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Mikael Häggström|Mikael Häggström]] thank you !--Wuerzele (talk) 21:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  environmental toxicants , not environmental toxins 

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