Talk:Equality before the law

message: I moved this article to Equality before the law from legal egalitarianism. The term legal egalitarianism is kind of obscure. The most common name for this is "Equality before the law" or "Equality under the law." A Google search helps verify this. Since no one seems to pay much attention to this article I figured this was a safe thing to do. VersaWorka 04:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved from '''legal egalitarianism''' =

message: Shouldn't this article merge with isonomia? A.Cython (talk) 06:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging? 

message: Just about everything in this article was OR ranging from dubious claims to obvious nonsense. Some of the content of isonomia could usefully be merged in, but without the obscure (Hayekian?) jargon. This ought to the be the main article, but it needs some substantive content, preferably free of attempts to claim this fundamental democratic concept for some particular political POV.JQ (talk) 08:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut to stub 

message: A history of equality before the law should include the Magna Carta. The charter was an "important part of the extensive historical process that led to the rule of constitutional law in the English speaking world," and the presumption of innocence which is a form equality in prosecution and criminal procedure. This is an important principal that should be appropriately included in this article.
— RW Marloe (talk) 11:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magna Carta 

message: This article IS worth retaining but as it stands its content is of dubious relevance and is woefully incomplete. I would like to know the thoughts of others, but I would suggest we might restructure and grow it to include:
* Some robust definitions
  -- The term equality under the law in the US, UK and other jurisdictions
  -- Systems of codification of equalities and their philosophical basis
* Some of the history
  -- Roman and Medieval 'value' placed on the lives of the various political, landowning and racial classes (an interesting item might be King Ine of Wessex and his two values for the blood price for an Anglo-Saxon and a Celtic Briton
  -- Access to legal remedy, who had it, who didn't 
  -- 1600 to 1950 - a review of the US constitution, abolition of slavery, native rights, women's votes (1920s), 
  -- Modern legislation intended to advance and protect legal equality
  -- Legal Aid and how the state has funded access to legal representation
  -- Human rights conventions and legislation
  -- Courts of appeal and their role in assuring legal equality (including EUCHR)
* Present day challenges including:
  -- Wealth, poverty and access to effective legal representation
  -- Political inequality, power and increasing inequality in the courts
  -- Prior assumptions on guilt and innocence and impact on supposed legal equality
Artowalos (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal Equality - Scope and Content 

message: " is the principle under which all people are subject to the same laws of justice (due process)."
Often confused this does not suggest that all people are the same when it comes to applying the logic of law.
We may be equal  before the law, however we are not all equal in the law; its a matter of logic and justice?
For example, the disabled, the elderly, the young, the aboriginals get special rights equally applied to all those within that group due to the logic of justice and with special justifiable reasons.
--174.5.37.143 (talk) 09:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equality before the law and equality in the law. 

message: Is the line "The author Anatole France said in 1894, 'In its majestic equality...'" really necessary?  I feel that the quote, in itself, is ironic and doesn't really serve the serious nature and neutral point of view to be taken in this article.  I'm going to remove it if nobody objects.  72.219.45.14 (talk) 09:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Paragraph Quote 

message: I didn't want to delete the last content section about the Japanese criminal code stuff because it hints at a neat angle for that section, but I couldn't figure out what to do with it in the shorter-term, so I renamed it to "legal matters." Thoughts on what that section should become? I'm thinking disputes or legal/court actions related to equality under the law in various countries. I came across it as a section created specifically to house that fact, and that seemed too bizarre and specific for a full section, but I think it would be at home in the article if several descriptions of that sort were present. Adamtrain (talk) 19:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to expand last section 

message: The article should probably include the well-known Anatole France quote: "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." -- AnonMoos (talk) 05:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous quote