Talk:Edward L. Doheny

message: The Los Angeles City Oil Field is located directly northwest of downtown Los Angeles and is about 15 miles north of the much larger and more important Wilmington Oil Field, located in the Los Angeles-Long Beach harbor area.  There is no geographic or geologic connection between the two, other than they are both in the Los Angeles Basin.  - WMThomas (talk) 00:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: Um, how does building a mansion as a wedding gift for your son or transporting a friend's brother in your yacht for medical treatment qualify as philanthropy?? It is generally agreed-upon that philanthropy is monetary, and benefits the needy or the general public (not friends and relatives!).   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.182.91 (talk) 23:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't. I moved the Greystone out of "Philanthropy" and into "Family".  The yacht story, in my opinion, could be deleted.  At the least should be moved.  > Best O Fortuna (talk) 05:17, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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message: At the date and time I'm typing this, this article states that its subject was acquitted twice on Teapot Dome bribery-charges. STRICTLY speaking, that's impossible. An acquitted person can't be retried, and that's in the Constitution of the U.S.A., Fifth Amendment. But sometimes a person acquitted in State court can be tried in Federal court for precisely the same ACTION. But it's never precisely the same CRIME. For instance, those acquitted by State court of murdering for a racist motive might face hate-crime charges in Federal court. More recently there have been some moves to overturn an acquittal if the jury was bribed, the rationale being that if the Prosecution had NO possibility of securing a conviction (because the jury was bribed) then there never really was any jeopardy. There was, in effect, never a "trial" at all, if its outcome was fixed. A "trial", this theory asserts, is when an UNBIASED jury (not a bribed one) decides the facts. But the strategies by which end-runs around the Double Jeopardy clause are executed are complicated enough that when an article asserts that someone was paradoxically acquitted twice for the same crime, the article should explain just exactly what happened rather than leave readers like me scratching their heads and wondering how in the face of the Double Jeopardy clause someone got acquitted for the same offense twice.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 06:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal outcome is unusual enough that it needs additional clarification and specifics