Talk:Grabs (skateboarding)

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There is a lot of overlap with the aerials article and I think we should merge them, throwing out the garbage along the way. Thoughts? Shreditor 02:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What would the article be called? Just Aerials (skateboarding)? --Liface 15:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I think so. All grabs are done as part of an aerial anyway, so I see no reason to have two articles. Shreditor 00:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sounds good to me. Feel free to move anytime. --Liface 16:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, merge um! --mdwerne 13:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah, I forgot about this... Gimme awhile to figure out how to do it first, or if someone reads this that already knows how, do it yourself. Shreditor 23:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I just don't think that grabbing your board alone is a trick. Grabs, just like flip tricks, are all aerial tricks. So I guess what you're saying is you could put the flips in the same article... Logical argument, but what I'm getting at is having just two articles: One for primarily street-based aerial tricks (i.e. flip tricks), and one for primarily transition-based aerial tricks (i.e. aerials). Or, we could merge them all in to the aerials article and split it in to two sections, one for flip tricks and one for grab tricks, but then the article would be enormous... Just making suggestions. It just seems redundant to me to have two articles for what are essentially the same tricks done on different terrain. Shreditor (talk) 02:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I realize that, but again, I see no need to have essentially the same tricks mentioned in two different articles. For example, "Indy air" and "Indy grab" are both there, but they're so similar. The only difference is that an Indy Air is done on a transition while an Indy grab is done on flat terrain or out of a jump. Why have two entries in different articles for the same thing? Shreditor (talk) 02:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, but in my opinion, the grab tricks should be in the aerials article because they were all invented as part of an aerial. All those grabs were done on a pool or halfpipe before anyone decided to take them to the streets. Besides, if you don't explain the grabs in terms of aerials done on a halfpipe, how do you explain the difference between a Frontside Air and an Indy, for example? Shreditor (talk) 02:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Ahh, I think you need to read the aerials article and learn a couple things about vertical skateboarding. Frontside airs are a specific grab. They're not just a generic 180 degree turn. Shreditor (talk) 06:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Alright, that makes no sense, but whatever. Do what you wish. I don't have much time to spend on the skateboarding articles anyway. Shreditor (talk) 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with aerials

message: There is a lot of overlap with the aerials article and I think we should merge them, throwing out the garbage along the way. Thoughts? Shreditor 02:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What would the article be called? Just Aerials (skateboarding)? --Liface 15:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I think so. All grabs are done as part of an aerial anyway, so I see no reason to have two articles. Shreditor 00:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sounds good to me. Feel free to move anytime. --Liface 16:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, merge um! --mdwerne 13:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah, I forgot about this... Gimme awhile to figure out how to do it first, or if someone reads this that already knows how, do it yourself. Shreditor 23:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I just don't think that grabbing your board alone is a trick. Grabs, just like flip tricks, are all aerial tricks. So I guess what you're saying is you could put the flips in the same article... Logical argument, but what I'm getting at is having just two articles: One for primarily street-based aerial tricks (i.e. flip tricks), and one for primarily transition-based aerial tricks (i.e. aerials). Or, we could merge them all in to the aerials article and split it in to two sections, one for flip tricks and one for grab tricks, but then the article would be enormous... Just making suggestions. It just seems redundant to me to have two articles for what are essentially the same tricks done on different terrain. Shreditor (talk) 02:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I realize that, but again, I see no need to have essentially the same tricks mentioned in two different articles. For example, "Indy air" and "Indy grab" are both there, but they're so similar. The only difference is that an Indy Air is done on a transition while an Indy grab is done on flat terrain or out of a jump. Why have two entries in different articles for the same thing? Shreditor (talk) 02:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, but in my opinion, the grab tricks should be in the aerials article because they were all invented as part of an aerial. All those grabs were done on a pool or halfpipe before anyone decided to take them to the streets. Besides, if you don't explain the grabs in terms of aerials done on a halfpipe, how do you explain the difference between a Frontside Air and an Indy, for example? Shreditor (talk) 02:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Ahh, I think you need to read the aerials article and learn a couple things about vertical skateboarding. Frontside airs are a specific grab. They're not just a generic 180 degree turn. Shreditor (talk) 06:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Alright, that makes no sense, but whatever. Do what you wish. I don't have much time to spend on the skateboarding articles anyway. Shreditor (talk) 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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