Talk:Mexican Repatriation

message: Here I am interested in the use of Eugenics idelologies to aid this particular type of re-patration.    Any further information in these regards?  
I suppose any recent issues about Mexicans in American would also be useful - for example, recent immigration reform and the like.  This would be useful I think. 98.110.171.75 (talk) 00:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it is worth, in my review of the various sources, I've seen very little formal mention of "eugenics"; mostly just old-fashioned racism. But if you want to look into it some more, Decade of Betrayal is probably the source to start with.—Luis (talk) 06:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Eugenics and Repatriation 

message: "H.M. Blaine “allegedly remarked that the majority of the Mexicans in the Los Angeles Colonia were either on relief or were public charges,” even though sources at the time documented that less than 10 percent of people on welfare across the country were Mexican or of Mexican descent (Balderrama 99)."
The latter claim does not refute the former, since it only mentions the percentage of Mexicans of the total of people on welfare, not the perecentage of Mexicans on welfare. Furthermore the first statement only applies to the Los Angeles Colonia, the second to the country as a whole.
: The original source makes this point a little more clearly, but it definitely isn't well-justified in the article as-is. So I've removed this for now. —Luis (talk) 06:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welfare 

message: This article violates a key belief that the page reflect a factual neutral viewpoint.
It is obviously written to reflect the pro-undocumented side of the current deportation debate in the United States and just as those sentiments are inappropriate here, as are applying contemporary standards and attitudes to an event that occurred almost a century ago.
I could accept some well documented deviation from neutrality if it supported with facts, and viewpoints from all sides, with special attention to what was the accepted standard of the time of all parties involved.
I'm not at all stating that the writer is wrong in his views, it's just those biases are so strong that they are most appropriate in a book rather that an encyclopedia.
The last paragraph in Raids and legal proceedings is lifted from pro-immigrant attorneys that have found that the current best public argument to further the interest of their clients is to tug at the hearts of fair-minded Americans with claims of dividing families. 
During the time of these deportations, other than better earnings, Mexicans enjoyed a lifestyle and quality of life more to their liking south of the border, and hostility and second-class citizen status north of it. 
It would have been unheard of for a Mexican woman and her children to remain in a foreign land with the head of the family unit was back home where the entire remainder of the family was. Splitting up the family-init in this manner would have been inthinkable in this situation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulndaoc (talk • contribs) 00:14, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You're of course welcome to provide citations to alternative points of view, or critiques of specific sentences/paragraphs. The one paragraph you did specifically mention is drawn from a book written by two professors, not from "pro-immigrant attorneys", so perhaps the article has changed? Without more specific critique I'm afraid I can't help you to improve the article. —Luis (talk) 07:09, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality is a pillar of Wikipedia 

message: Just came across . Putting here so I don't lose it later. —Luis (talk) 11:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article referencing some potential new sources 

message: There seems to be a disconnect in the overall description of Mexican Repatriation.  The first paragraph lays the blame at President Hoover's feet;  the second says repatriation was "largely organized and encouraged by city and state governments, often with support from local private entities."  Where is the evidence of Hoover's responsibility?  Or is the second paragraph the one we should lead with?
None of the sources cited, as far as I can find looking through them (some now 404 or behind paywalls), offer any documentation or source of the supposed Hoover Administration policy behind repatriation.  Most of them don't even mention Hoover!  I would like to see some evidence that Hoover was behind this, not just hearsay.  Can anyone find such a source that cites a Presidential Proclamation, Executive Order, or even any public statements by President Hoover that authorized or endorsed repatriation?  The policy outlined in Hoover's 1930 State of the Union (which is mentioned in a couple of paragraphs) was to limit the number of incoming visas, not to deport or repatriate anyone.
Hulfnar (talk) 18:32, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blaming Hoover?