Talk:Food security

message: I am thinking of expanding the section on "Food Security in Mexico." There are references missing, and the current information is very limited. The section fails to address important issues such as food productivity, biodiversity, and poverty alleviation policies. To see the sources I may use, you can look at my user page! Jk956 (talk) 21:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: National sections are few, and rightly so. I think they are already somewhat too large, in an article that is much too large. More material should be moved to their national articles about this topic, and to important subtopic articles. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding on "Food Security in Mexico" Section 

message: Sources seem to use the word "availability" to describe the yes/no question "Is there something one could eat nearby?"  When used in tandem with the different question of "accessibility", in my view the language creates a barrier to comprehension.  Even though there may be mountain of food in a local warehouse, is it really 'available' if it is 'inaccessible'?   QUESTION - do any sources use "existence of food" instead of "availability"?  That word change would make the question of accessibility a lot more comprehensible at first reading.  So we go from having a warehouse of "food that is available but is inaccessible" (which leaves topic beginners' heads spinning) to having a warehouse of "Food that exists but is inaccessible" (which any 12 year old reader will instantly grasp). NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:53, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch. Any solutions? Halo Jerk1 (talk) 08:02, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I was just venting kinda.  The only solution is to follow the sources.  I haven't read widely in this area myself, but if you have and anything comes to mind based on your reading, have at it!  Thanks for your interest here.  FYI, if you are so inclined, the new WP:WikiProject Climate change is recruiting new members.  Cheers! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:00, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank ya. Vent away any time when I'm around. I came across the article and saw that it needed copyediting. I copyedited a little. I most commonly edit as an anon, and I haven't edited Wikipedia this consistently (day after day) in a long time, but I said to myself that I'll just keep editing this article while I'm on this Wiki spree. I'm gonna look at other pages now. Some will be related.  Halo Jerk1 (talk) 08:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: May the spree last awhile, and may you bring that keen eye to whatever happens later too.   NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 10:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "availability" vs "existence" 

message: Hi! I'm Anne. In one of my classes this semester, we will be working on creating a new article on Wikipedia or significantly contributing to an already existing one. For one of my proposed topics, I would like to create an entirely new article that focuses on food security/insecurity in Houston, TX. I would organize this article in a similar fashion to this parent article, but I would make it specific to the city of Houston. AMRara (talk) 13:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creating a new article "Food Insecurity in Houston" 

message: Most of food insecurity is from these areas. please expand and create a new article  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devpaawangmailcom (talk • contribs) 14:48, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of material for africa and indian security 

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message: Hello! I'm Anne, and I would like to revise this article by adding one or two countries, probably South Africa and the Philippines, and how food security affects those populations. I would also like to expand more on the section "Effects of food security" and discuss the consequences of food insecurity that can occur on a scale that goes beyond an individual. AMRara (talk) 03:40, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed revisions 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Careena.El-Khatib/Food_security/Bibliography?preload=Template%3ADashboard.wikiedu.org_bibliography  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Careena.El-Khatib (talk • contribs) 22:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography of Other Relevant Sources Pertaining to Food Security 

message: Rationale: By technical definitions, these terms seem to differ only by a matter of degree. In everyday language, "food insecurity" is often simply a euphemism for hunger. There is a lot of duplication and overlap in scope between the two articles already, and I think readers would be better served by simply having one article that explains both terms. (I don't have a strong opinion about what the title should be.) Some of the statistics in the Food security article are actually about hunger. The history of hunger is the history of food insecurity. The attempts to reduce food insecurity and challenges of doing so are the same for reducing hunger. The section on gender and statistics in Hunger cross-reference sections in the other article. -- Beland (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Strongly Oppose. I don’t see your reasoning for this. Doing this merger would Be a very bad idea  JamesVilla44 (talk) 19:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, so how would you scope the separate articles? What is there to say about hunger that couldn't be said about food insecurity, or vice versa? -- Beland (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Oppose the merger. I understand that there may be a slight crossover in terms of the themes of the two articles, but for me, the distinction is simple - hunger is something experienced by an individual, whilst food security is a broader concept regarding the availability of food. One way to think about it is that a lack of food security causes hunger; one leads to another, meaning the two are separate concepts. Redtree21 (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Oppose. Two topics that are different, and both articles are big. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Strongly oppose, clearly different topics of focus. Sadads (talk) 23:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Boldly removed merge template since all folks here oppose and the articles are very long as it is. -- Fuzheado | Talk 09:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge of Hunger and Food security 

message: Dear users,
I work for the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO). As part of a broader UN-Wikipedia project and in line with FAO’s Open Access policy, I have been adding content, recent estimates, maps and graphs from some FAO publications to selected Wikipedia pages (full list available here).
When checking pages containing content related to food and agriculture, I noticed that the Food security page contains data from old editions (2003 and 2012) of FAO’s annual report on “The State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World” (SOFI).
With the assistance of colleagues and under the guidance of the UK Wikimedia Programme Coordinator, I therefore aim to update the page with more recent estimates from the 2020 edition of the same report (the OTRS permission can be found here), as most of the content included in the page is now outdated. We also aim to include new graphs and to make some changes to the text by including additional relevant information and by rephrasing some pieces of content.
Gaia797 (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to the page 

message: Shortage of food 106.78.87.198 (talk) 03:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortage of food 

message: Impacts of food security 41.115.97.41 (talk) 17:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography 

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Global Poverty and Practice

message: The article is too long (98 kB (15805 words) "readable prose size"). I am now going to look for ways of culling / condensing it. Any suggestions by page watchers? EMsmile (talk) 10:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some culling and the article is now at 87 kB length. Still far too long. I have so far cut content about GM crops and about the United States, for example. More culling needed, the article is too U.S. centric. EMsmile (talk) 23:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've done more culling. Now at 49 kB. That's better. It baffles me why this article had received so much "fluff", digressing content, poorly written stuff, poorly sourced stuff (much of it added by students). Sad. EMsmile (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, I am finished for now with my culling and condensing. I've updated the info on climate change impacts by using excerpts. Excerpts are suitable here as the facts about climate change are continually evolving. Let me know what you think about my efforts here. EMsmile (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article too long, needs culling 

message: I've removed the "further reading" list as I don't think it adds any value nowadays and would have to be curated continuously: 
* Dixant, Agriculture, and Food Security in Southern Africa edited by Steven Were Omamo and Klaus von Grebmer (2005) (Brief and Book available)
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* Introduction to the Basic Concepts of Food Security  EC-FAO Food Security Programme (2008) Practical Guide Series
* Lindberg R, Whelan J, Lawrence M, Gold L, Friel S (February 2015) "Still serving hot soup? Two hundred years of a charitable food sector in Australia: a narrative review". Australia New Zealand Journal of Public Health.
* The environmental food crisis A study done by the UN on feeding the world population (2009).
* Climate change: Impact on agriculture and costs of adaptation A report by the International Food Policy Research Institute that presents research results that quantify the impacts of climate change, assesses the consequences for food security, and estimates the investments that would offset the negative consequences for human well-being.
* Moseley, W.G. and B.I. Logan. 2005. "Food Security." In: Wisner, B., C. Toulmin and R. Chitiga (eds). Toward a New Map of Africa. London: Earthscan Publications. Pp. 133–152.
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* Food Insecurity, a special issue on the topic by the Journal of Applied Research on Children. (212)
* Achieving Food and Nutrition Security: Actions to Meet the Global Challenge. A Training Course Reader by InWEnt, GTZ and Welthungerhilfe. 3rd edition, 240 pages, 2009
*  — Research from the Global Sustainability Institute that studies the link between political fragility and access to food.
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thread_title:  Removed "further reading" list 

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: ERTH 4303 Resources of the Earth

message: Someone mentioned that the article is too US centric and I agree, the only country well-elaborated on is the USA (though majority of studies do tend to take place there I’ve found). I added Yemen, Uganda, Canada, South Africa, and Singapore. I also added a section on alternative insect diets with a focus on non western cultures that consume insects. We should work to add more countries, there’s only a few there. —Mbrookemac (talk) 01:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:   Missing information in countries section