Talk:Revolver (Beatles album)

message: As a musician, I don't buy the claim that the opening of this song changes time signatures from 9/8, 7/8, to 4/4.  The phrase is clearly just a free time musical introduction.  It's silly to try to count this out in the manner the author presents.  In fact, I can find nothing, anywhere, to corroborate this piece of misinformation.
Jaco66 (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The "9/8 to 7/8 to common time" changes are supported by the source (Kenneth Womack), but then the rest of the sentence is sourced to Walter Everett, who's eminently more qualified and refers to the opening portion as a "tonally mysterious and tempo-free introduction", with no mention of time signatures. (As far as I'm concerned, it's only the brief landing on 7/8 that in any way registers.) I'll check in a couple of others sources, but if no one else identifies the 9/8 bit, particularly, I guess we can remove and go with the free-time description. JG66 (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Here, There, and Everywhere 

message: I find "Made with only minimal contributions from Starr and McCartney, ".  So, what contribution did Lennon make? Carlm0404 (talk) 00:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi : Ian MacDonald doesn't list him among the personnel at all, while John C. Winn writes this: "John doesn't seem to have participated in the song at any point, unless he played the fuzz guitar." Everett meanwhile says the fuzz was played by George (which is already cited here), so I've added a mention that John likely did not participate in the recording. Tkbrett (✉) 12:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love You To 

message: Hi there!  In the "Track listing" section, edits from various IP addresses have been reformatting the way Harrison is credited as a songwriter, and I've been reverting them.  I don't want to be edit warring, so I'm coming here to try to gain consensus for how the section should be formatted.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi 'Bat. When the article made GA in 2017, Track listing handled this issue in the way the recent IP(s) want to see it done. So, strictly speaking, consensus still favours the asterisk approach. When I nominated the article, I think I saw the sense in this approach, because Harrison writing 3 songs is actually quite substantial when one considers that the remaining 11 tracks are written by two writers (meaning, halve that and it's 5.5 to Lennon and 5.5 to McCartney). I'm not overly bothered, myself, and perhaps that's not the way to look at it anyway. JG66 (talk) 08:05, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

text: I've looked through the article history and in fact the asterisked approach was in place from early 2017, at least, until December last year. An IP user changed it on 1 December. JG66 (talk) 12:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crediting Harrison in Track listing section 

message: According to Variety, there seems to be a Revolver box set coming this fall. Giles Martin has publicly acknowledged it on Twitter, so I think there’s a fair chance of it being true. blueskiesdry… (cloudy contribs…) 12:26, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box set 

message: Just read the entry for 'Reissues.' I believe this sentence is incorrect:
"In 2009, Apple and EMI reissued remastered versions of the Beatles albums on CD."
The 2009 release wasn't a reissue of remastered versions of Revolver; it was an initial issue of a newly remastered version of Revolver. I suggest replacing "reissued" with '...issued remastered versions....'
Or am I just being a nitpicking ass?  🤡 Smbrannon (talk) 07:43, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, this was changed to "released".--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  How does one "reissue" something that hasn't previously been issued? 

message: There’s obviously simply really no other album named “Revolver” that’s famous just as this one. So, there’s really no need to add the fact that this is a Beatles album in the title since the reader will probably Already know that. Plus, if someone was to type in simply “Revolver (album)”, it would feel redundant due to the need of writing an extra “Beatles” and this page’s title already, although literally with just 3 words, could be arguably a bit wordy. Please do NOT change the article’s title until further discussion. Will post this again in case any1 misses it. Please chat/discuss or contact me!!!!!!! A banner on the article should appear as usual about this. Tengoritmo (talk) 01:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose, at least without more justification. Consider Revolver (The Haunted album), Revolver (T-Pain album), Revolver (EP). Sundayclose (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the title to simply “Revolver (album)” 

message: George Harrison (third from left) is seen holding a transparency of the controversial "butcher cover" for Yesterday and Today.
No he isn't. He's holding a coloured filter (gel) for the lights on the photo shoot. You can see all of the Beatles playing with these more clearly in other photos from the same shoot, e.g. in the 2022 CD booklet. Robert Whitaker's transparencies for the Yesterday and Today cover were ordinary photographic diapositives, I'd imagine. 176.85.135.222 (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo caption inaccuracy 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: withdrawn. The discussion has only been open for a day, but the consensus seems pretty clear already, so I'm withdrawing this proposal per WP:RMCI#Early closure. (non-admin closure)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Revolver (Beatles album) →  – I believe this album to be the primary topic for the title "Revolver (album)".This article was originally moved to its current title following an RM in June 2013, which was largely based on the argument that the title "Revolver (album)" is incomplete disambiguation. However, in the time since that RM, the relevant guidance has changed: a 2019 RfC found that incompletely disambiguated titles can still have primary topics (see WP:PDAB for more discussion). PDAB does note that the standards for partially disambiguated primary topics should be stricter than those for standard primary topics, but even so, I believe that this album meets those criteria. Primary topic status is measured along two criteria:
#Usage. There are three studio albums titled "Revolver" that have their own Wikipedia articles: this album, Revolver (The Haunted album), and Revolver (T-Pain album). Pageview analysis (linked here) shows that the Beatles album receives 19.9 times as many average monthly pageviews as the other two albums combined. This is admittedly a narrower margin than many of the ratios listed at WP:PDAB, but I believe it's still wide enough to justify a primary topic claim.
#Long-term significance. The Beatles album is considered by many to be among the greatest albums of all time, a reputation that the album's article discusses in well-sourced detail. Conversely, the Haunted album does not appear to have attracted significant attention outside of metal-focused publications, and the T-Pain album received mediocre reviews. In my view, the Beatles album has a clear lead in significance over the other albums sharing its title.
In summary: current guidance allows for partially disambiguated titles when one topic is primary by a sufficient margin, and I believe this album has met that threshold. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 1 June 2023 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved.  – robertsky (talk) 15:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Revolver (Beatles album) →  – Reviving PDAB discussion as this album taking ~97% of the pageviews to albums titled "Revolver" (a ~28:1 pageview ratio to both Revolver (The Haunted album) and Revolver (T-Pain album) combined) and this album's long-term significance strongly suggest WP:PDABPRIMARY. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 06:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject The Beatles has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 29 February 2024