Talk:Eldorado (TV series)

message: who played Pilar? Remember the horse riding scene well...
:According to the IMDb, it was Sandra Sandri. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0762260/ Angmering 13:58, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pilar

message: This article is festooned with unsourced statements. No citations given to the multitude of sentences that need at least one, or many, citations. The "problems and criticism" section is particularly woeful. VonBlade 00:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add references. The JPStalk to me 00:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More refs needed

message: Can someone find references to the controversy over the set. I gather that it was specially built, at huge expense, with the added problem that it had not been properly plumbed into the water mains etc, so that when the series finished, it couldn't be sold as a development. --MacRusgail 14:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with Eldorado set

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 10:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I am concerned about this bit: "It is widely thought that the failure of Eldorado is the reason why the BBC has not attempted to launch a brand new soap from scratch since; the corporation opting instead to move established series Casualty and Holby City to year-round production" - because Eldorado was cancelled in 1993, and Holby City didn't launch until 1999 - so, presumably, they DID launch a new soap then?
:Holby City was not marketed as a soap. It began life as a drama, and adopted the more soapish elements. The JPStalk to me 15:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cancellation

message: "At the end of its run, the show was typically receiving 9-10 million viewers."
BBC top brass would kill for such high viewing figures today. Not bad for a supposedly "unsuccessful" soap! Meanwhile, "Two pints of lager and... oooh, look at these huge breasts!" gets approximately 900 viewers on BBC Three. 217.155.20.163 (talk) 00:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a different era though. Overall viewing figures for series have generally declined over the decades, due to a growing number of channels, other activities and also changing compilation methods. Chart positions are often considered more important than raw numbers. And comparing a prime time soap on the BBC's flagship analogue channel with the umpteenth repeat of a show on a minority interest digital only channel is hardly like for like. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsuccessful? 

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message: Eldorado was conceived by EastEnders creators Julia Smith and Tony Holland - not true. It was conceived by a rather well-known creator (whose name unfortunately I cannot remember ATM), however his idea of the programme was for it to be a glamorous programme rather like Dallas or Dynasty, in that it was set around a cast of wealthy British ex-pats who lived in the sun, and was set aboard yachts, etc, as well as the village that was eventually built for the programme. The BBC 'creators' mentioned however thought it was too upmarket and proceeded to downgrade the idea into what Eldorado was eventually to become. The disgusted writer distanced himself from the series as he saw what was happening to his brainchild and the two BBC 'creators' mentioned took over. I remember this from a subsequent documentary about the failure of the programme in which the original creator was interviewed sometime around 1993-4. It may have been Tony Warren but I'm not sure, it was definitely someone with a good record in programme ideas. With the sad destruction of his original idea I'm not surprised he disowned the programme, it was dire. Not the cast's fault, but many of the newcomers appeared out of their depth, and much of the storyline was banal and uninteresting, a common problem with UK soaps. The whole series is a fine example of how the BBC had started to lose the plot in the early 1990s and which paved the way for the arrival of John Birt. Funny thing is that if the creator's original idea had been followed Eldorado might well have been a global success, but unfortunately the BBC gave it to their 'soap' department rather than to BBC Drama. UK soaps are best described as being like Till Death Us Do Part or Bread without the redeeming feature of the comedy.
BTW, the comment about the custom-built village not being able to be sold because it had no plumbing is true. No-one thought to have any toilets or water pipes installed when it was being built, an illustration of the sort of people involved in planning in the BBC back then - only the BBC could spend so much money on a programme and come up with something so widely regarded as amateurish crap.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.70.155 (talk) 18:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a 2002 documentary about the series on YouTube entitled Eldorado - the Rise & Fall here:  for anyone who wants to see what the programme was like.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.57.101 (talk) 12:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conceived by?