Talk:Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon

message: This is not an encyclopedia article on Lord Hunsdon.  It is random nonsense.  john k 04:47, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears the "nonsense" has been cleaned up some time ago.  -- ShinmaWa(talk) 21:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: nonsense

message: I've removed "briefly" as it's argumentative.  You can't say "briefly" and then also state that the exact dates are unknown.  If they are unknown, we don't know how brief it was. Wjhonson 17:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates for affair

message: A question from WP:AFC Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiltshire or Ormonde

message: The article currently reads: The idea that Carey was Henry VIII's secret son has spawned several Tudor legends, even becoming a central part of modern fiction, such as the recent novel The Other Boleyn Girl (loosely based on the life of Mary Boleyn). However, Henry Carey was not born until March 1526   Letters & Papers' viii.567  - by which time the affair is believed to have ended. Obviously it's irrelevant if Carey was born when the affair was over; it's only relevant if he was conceived when the affair was over (or ongoing). I don't have Letters & Papers; could someone please check to see if the reference actually discusses time of conception? If not, then this sentence needs to be rewritten; at the least it is not a "however" which suggests some contradiction. --Lquilter (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: timing

message: * I rewrote it to remove the ambiguity and false implication per Talk:Mary Boleyn. Basically just moved the timing information with the rest of the timing of the affair section, and left the rumors-about-bastardy section alone. --Lquilter (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference

message: This section is very confusingly written: William Carey, Henry's legal father, died suddenly from the sweating sickness on 23 June 1528 when Henry was only two. Carey and his elder sister Catherine came under the wardship of his maternal aunt Anne Boleyn, engaged to Henry VIII at the time and feared she may not be able to have a son of her own. The child still had active contact with his mother, but Anne refused to allow Mary to acknowledge him as her own son, who remained on good terms with her sister, until her secret elopement with a soldier, William Stafford (later Lord of Chebsey) in 1535.
I'm proposing a rewrite (below) but the original is so confusing I'm not sure it's accurate. Let me know; I've bolded and struck out material to make it clear. William Carey, Henry's legal father, died suddenly from the sweating sickness on 23 June 1528 when Henry was only two. Carey and his elder sister Catherine came under the wardship of his their maternal aunt Anne Boleyn, who was engaged to Henry VIII at the time.  and feared she may not be able to have a son of her own. [Striking this last clause because I'm not sure what it has to do with the guardianship.] The children still had active contact with his their mother, but Anne refused to allow Mary to acknowledge his William as her own son. Nevertheless, Anne and Mary , who remained on good terms with her sister, until Mary's her secret elopement with a soldier, William Stafford (later Lord of Chebsey) in 1535. --Lquilter (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: anne custody section

message: Looks very nice, unfortunately as it's currently displayed it would have been the arms of the second son of whoever was Baron Hunsdon at the time.
I refer to the crescent. Please look under Cadency article.
It should be redone.
Tonybaldacci (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I observe that similar arms are shown in the article on George Carey, 2nd Baron Hunsdon. Might they relate to a whole branch of a family? The more I look into the rules governing differences, the more I realize that they are not as cut and dried as some writers would have us believe. My knowledge of heraldry is a little rusty, so I do not propose to lay down the law, but neither man was a second son and these arms are said to appear on Henry's monument. See :File:Coat of arms of Sir Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon, KG.png. LynwoodF (talk) 09:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heraldic graphic 

message: Daughter-in-law stated to be from Throcking, Herefordshire. Most WP refs have it in Hertfordshire. Robin Patterson (talk) 23:28, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, so I have changed it. LynwoodF (talk) 10:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Throcking in which county?