Talk:Conservation movement

message: Today, it is a moral goal that most people support - but not all people accept that ecology is the basis of human morality or that interactions with ecology necessarily form their basic character or ethos.  Many simply regard nature as a source of beauty and diversity - not of moral example as Greens and the more radical Gaians do.
It's far from clear that most people on the planet Earth support conservation especially when it appears to conflict with economic development.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.132.115.250 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 22 March 2002
:Sadly, true., although few will say out loud that they want nature not to be conserved, they'll act otherwise.
::It stems from illogical conservation ideologies such as blocking an irrigation project that could feed millions of people because of a tiny fish, or protecting a frozen wasteland from oil drilling while at the same time importing high priced oil from the middle east where these types of environmental laws do not exist. Bugguyak (talk) 13:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed for possible incorrectness

message: I thought to add this section, though there is scant evidence for any real contribution by such organizations.Trilobitealive 23:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contribution by anti-hunting organizations

message: If you are interested in Environment, Wildlife, Conservation and Nature etc. please join in to contribute, even starting off with making new stub class articles will be a great contribution.
Sincerely
Atulsnischal 16:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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thread_title: '''Invitation for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India]] & Conservation'''

message: .... and kindly contribute to these new articles when you get time, and request others too.
See Wildlife of India for reference.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 18:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: I work with a council of conservation groups and individuals and have witnessed the evolution of the conservation movement over a 20+ year period.  To my mind, conservation and environmentalism are becoming synonymous in scope, with subtle differences lying in methodology.  This is a reflection of society's growing understanding of it's interrelationship with nature and ecosystems and, most importantly, an integration of the values expressed in conservation into social and economic behaviour.
The history of conservation over the past century can be roughly grouped as follows:
1) Stewardship -- up to 1970s.  Conservation was primarily nature and resource-focused with the lead proponents being naturalists, sportsmen, farmers, and other organizations closely associated with the land.  
2) Environmental Awareness -- from the 60s through the 80s.  The rise of the environmental movement was a distinct movement in scope and style, although many of the issues of pollution and waste were also being addressed by conservationists.  For example The Conserver Society concept, proposed in the 70s, emphasized "doing more with less" and placed a strong emphasis on energy conservation, recycling, and reduction at source.
3) Applied Conservation -- 90s onward.  Starting in the early 1990's much of the organizational energy around conservation and environmentalism has been centred on delivering solutions, including naturalization, energy audits, transportation alternatives, organic food etc.  
While the underlying principles of respect for nature, and treading lightly on the earth have remained constant in the conservation movement over time, the understanding and application of those values has evolved to a point where the scope is as broad as can be and the focus is on transition strategies.
In this sense, the conservation movement is evolving and maturing, much as other social movements such as feminism and the civil rights movement have done.
--Cwinter 21:41, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The evolution of conservation 

message: This section has clearly been used as a scrapping ground between pro- and anti- foxhunting groups and no longer makes any sense. There has been clear vandalism such as the sentence about Mongolian tribesmen and eagles (which I shall delete now) and the whole section appears to serve no purpose whatsoever in informing the reader, and so I propose deleting it. If noone has disagreed within a couple of weeks or so, I'll go ahead and do that. Nom DeGuerre 19:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem areas UK 

message: Commentary:
To be fair we need to add the subject section. This is solely my own opinion supported by my direct, professional experience in environmental management, reource restoration and conservation over 30+ years. Others may hold differing opinions, which we may then, debate in this forum in future.  I will attempt to retrieve a few good references from my dishelved files to support some of the following statements and opinions. I will provide these as I come across them.
Commercial and subsistence fishers, along with other constituents, have been deeply involved, initially and continually, in the political and social impetus to:
1. Establish boundaries for commercial fishing  zones, excluding  nesting, breeding, and nursury areas as well as areas of other essential habitats, 
2. Management of surface & subsurface hydrology, conservation of essential in-stream flows, and cleanups of other essential areas, such as, upstream watersheds, discharging aquifers, and riparian zones,  
3. Limit commercial catch and by-catch, 
4. Ban adverse effects on threatened and endangered species, 
5. Limit or ban harmful and rapacious fishing methods, 
6. Establish new hatcheries and repair and expad existing hatcheries, 
7. Provide artificial reef structures for safe habitats and surface structures to provide shady loitering areas, and 
8. Designate no-fishing areas near or in breeding grounds and reefs in order to allow some respite for recovery of the exploited populations. 
9. Establish public, academic and government aquaria, research and development programs; to help meet society's needs for more accessible public information of these reources and their issues, better scientific knowledge of life histories and species vulnerabilites, and better conservation techniques for important species.
 
Many commercial fishers also pay heavy fees for permits, landing taxes, and large excise duties on some of their equipment and supplies.  In the U.S.A. such collections of levies are frequently dedicated to resource management, conservation, and restoration funds at the local, State, and Federal levels. 
Subsistence fishers usually consist of aboriginal peoples possessing historic fishing rights, or of low-income groups dependent on fisheries for essential nutrition.  Members of these groups may not require expensive permits, authorized to receive free or very low-cost permits instead; nor do they usually pay taxes on their catch due to their existing treaty rights and / or low income status. These groups and individuals do constitute major contributors to fisheries management councils and regulatory bodies representing their views through the veil of their lifetime, cultural attitudes toward effective conservationof the Earth and their continuing essential need for subsistence utilization of fisheries resources. 
A number of fisheries resource management councils have strong representation from both commercial and substistence fishers,among their several other constituenties. These former two groups depend on fisheries for their continuing livelihood.  Many livelihood fishers, individually and in groups, also regularly contribute to conservation, restoration and cleanup efforts for coastlines, rivers, river deltas, and wetlands. Sport fishers and their orgainzations are also heavily involved in fisheries resource management councils. One would like to believe that such voluntary participation by livelihood fishers may be due to their visions of enlighted self interest in biodiversity and conservation. For substistence and sport fishers this may be true. However, a variety of motivations are at work with commercial fishers, including less savory motivations like public relations, resource grabs, and using their involvement to oppose any new proposals for more stringent limits. Such self-serving activites have sometimes, often?, resulted in pluralistic compromises, leaving no one truely satisfied. Longer-term experience has proven that, over sufficient time, such hard-won compromises can advance the greater good, but usually, only in smaller increments than some may desire or that may be justified by the science of the matter.
Likewise, sport fishermen have provided funding to both U.S. Federal fisheries management funds through voluntary contributions, license fees and excise taxes; and, to the academic study and local or regional conservation of freshwater and marine biodiversity & ecosystems, species-related fish conservation activities, and conservation  of estuaries by academic organizations, local activist groups, local and regional governments, and NGOs.  Sport fishers also provide or coordinate grants from private individuals and foundations.  These fishers continue to provide always growing funding through their subsidies to Federal grant funds collected through the tax methods identified just above.  Frequently, sport fishers have also voluntarily provided key guidance, cooperation, funding, other resources and equipment, and volunteer labor to cleanup and restore many lakes, streams and rivers, to help reintroduce stressed, hybridized, or extirpated native species to their former habitats, to establish new hatcheries and rehabilitate and expand older hatchery units.  Their efforts have also included direct assistance and funding to conserve wetlands and estuarine fisheries. These latter natural areas harbor very important nesting, breeding, and juvenile nurturing areas for many important species of coastal and pelagic forms of fish and shellfish.  These areas are important not only to the livelihood and enjoyment of fishers but to National and intrnational efforts to conserve and restore marine and aquatic biodiversity and ecosystem functionality.  
I hope this is readable and cogent.  I will check back for any comments and to post references.
-98.219.36.206 (talk) 05:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions to Conservation by Sport, Subsistence, and  Commercial Fishers  

message: minor edits December 24, 2009  Greenopedia (talk) 16:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor edits 

message: The article gives about the right attention to the US and too little to the rest of the world.
The solution is not to reduce the US coverage--leaving a stub--but to give better coverage for the rest of the world.  I'll try to work on that. Rjensen (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographical inbalance 

message: Hey  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.177.237.93 (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: I'm a student of a Political Science course evaluating articles based on topic presentation and relevance.  As I read through this article, the organization of topics was a bit scattered and was more confusing than informative.  Although the background information on the movement's origins was helpful to providing historical context, the excessive details provided distracted from the topic of the article. Alytras (talk) 22:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, the progressive sequence with which the writer of this article presents their ideas is lacking in cohesiveness which may further confuse readers.  For example, the sudden shift in topic focus between the portion discussing party agendas since 1970 and the portion dedicated to explaining conservation in Costa Rica.  Reorganization of sub-topics could help clarify therein topic/purpose of the article.  Alytras (talk) 23:56, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topic Relevance and Organization