Talk:Grover Norquist

message: Note the additional info about foreign Islamic influence including attempts to name associate with bin laden.
lots of issues  | leave me a message 21:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Note

message: But as usual for the astroturf sock, no justification in talk. --Gorgonzilla 21:49, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good reasoning.  I went ahead and deleted it. Steve Dufour 04:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV Asserted 

message: I added the section on Norquist comparing the estate tax to the Holocaust.  I added a sentence summarizing Norquist's explanation of the quote from the primary source (that he wasn't comparing the events, just the morality behind the acts), so that the section wouldn't be taken out of context.  It's still a pretty bad quote, though.  Oh well, I hate the guy, and I think that I was lenient giving him the extra qualifying sentence.
Ihavenoheroes 16:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comments are off topic and violate several WP policies. FYI, editors are not expected or required to "have a NPOV about the subject" -- none of us do, certainly not you. -- Jibal (talk) 23:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section under controversies 

message: Lawyer2b removed this text, a decision I agree with, but I want to note it here (I've removed some leading spaces that made it look particularly poorly formated when the text was in the article):
:As a prominent figure in republican politics Grover Norquist has frequently been the victim of attack (from those on the political left)using of guilt by association tactics.
:was not created to be used as a tool to asassinate the charactor of those whose political beliefs differ from your own through the use of libel slander guilt by association
:Allegations that are often supported by highly biased and partisan sources.
:Wikepedia must have rules to prevent libelous and slanderous entries.
:Legal team on behalf of Mr Norquist request the cease using such a prominent open source publication to attack his reputation and charactor.</blockquote>
This was posted by 24.17.65.82, who has no other posting history.  Anyone think that this really was posted by the "legal team"?  There is a process, I assume, for notifying the folks that run the website of real legal threat. I do find it hard to believe that a lawyer would write so badly (maybe a paralegal?), and misuse a legal term like slander (slander is SPOKEN, not WRITTEN). John Broughton 17:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt any lawyer, let alone legal team, wrote that.  "Charactor" "asassinat[ion]"? Lawyer2b 16:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norquist's legal team??

message: The name Norquist looks Swedish, does anyone know if he has Swedish heritage? /Slarre 02:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Swedish heritage?

message: The article says his wife was "born muslim". Can you really be born muslim, of just of muslim parents?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.37.221 (talk) 06:01, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wife's Heritage

message: Really? That's why Norquist is notable? I'm not important enough to change it, but it seems like there ought to be a better place for "His close business and political ties to recently indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff are the subject of a current federal investigation."—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.232.72 (talk • contribs) 
:If this article was at all fair/neutral to its subject, the "scandal" portion would be far down the article, much like in the Michael Moore article, in which his directing "work" is front and center as it should be, and only FAR down the article are the controversies (mitigated, however, with someone's clever use of the "Warning: weasel words" template to mute anything negative said about him.) - Nhprman List 05:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you raise some good points.  I was bold, and re-ordered the sections.  -- Sholom 12:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good move. We'll see if it lasts. - Nhprman List 15:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abromoff in the head? 

message: 1. They are not "religious allies," they are Islamic terrorists. 
2. This section is much more important than the Abramoff scandal, regardless of its scope. 
A political operative with ties for foreign goverments that were on the State Department's list of state sponsors of terror, i.e. Libya, and two of the most destructive, powerful Islamic terror organizations on the planet, i.e. Hezbollah, and Hamas, is a lot more important than the corruption of Congress or the White House, which has existed-to some degree or another-since the Jackson administration.  72.68.172.229 13:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Religious Allies

message: The bottom-line here is, Norquist has no association to Al-Qaida, as some have asserted, period.   because the assertion that any of his associates do so is patently false.  19:44, 26 September 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billmunny (talk • contribs) 
:Okay, the link you provided seems fairly authoritative, and the paragraph in the wikipedia article was pretty speculative, so I've removed it.  But I put the rest of the text that you deleted back in.  
:When you delete two entire sections, which (I haven't followed the links) seem reasonably well-sourced, you need to justify more than the inaccuracy of one paragraph within one of those sections.  Again, posting an explanation here is appreciated (bottom of the page, though, and probably with a new section heading. Thanks.  John Broughton  |  Talk 21:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ties to Al-Qaida? 

message: Also, Norquist is not a member of the CFR.  See here - http://www.cfr.org/publication/13430/price_of_liberty.html -- "And I'm sure if Grover Norquist were a member of the council, he would say people like you that are going to cause us problems, Bush's tax cuts were the way to go..." -- ie he ain't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.207.195 (talk) 21:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  rumors 

message: Much of Grover_Norquist#Other_criticisms_and_controversies is not written from a neutral point of view, but as a partisan attack page.  See, for example, my attempt to bring header of the "Anti-government approach" section into conformity with WP:NPOV by renaming it to "Limited-government approach", which, along with the rest of my edits, was summarily reverted. John254 12:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we, and the encyclopedia, will be best off if we work together instead of threatening each other. I would appreciate that a lot. I'm sorry if my revert of your major rewrite upset you. Reading Norquist's own words it seems that he is an advocate of something stronger than just limited government. Perhaps his comments about drowning the government in a bathtub are entirely facetious, but all of his public statements and policy work seems to be extremely anti-federal government. Commitment to the Neutral Point of View also means avoiding weasel words. To take a cue from the ATR website, I believe the best way to describe his policy is "Minimal government approach". --User At Work 19:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current [[WP:BLP]] problems with this article

message: I have removed the section referring to a comment made regarding Barack Obama.  I think the fact that someone made this edit to the original version makes it fairly clear that there is no way this text can conform to WP:BLP and WP:NPOV, at least not without some high quality sources.  siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 05:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Kerry with a tan? 

message: Someone put in the blurb about Norquist's view of the islamic center that more importantly, a mosque is the idea. This is implied by the title: "New york mosque-controversy"
It is NOT a mosque. Look it up! I understand all the hoopla but look at what the proposal for the building is. Then look up what a mosque is...
This is why %99 of what I read on wikipedia is purely apolitical, It amazes me to read articles on such an important figure when they contain glaring inaccuracies.
Conndog (talk) 04:14, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's NOT a mosque!!! 

message: Hi, I removed the word "illegal" regarding Norquist's involvement with Oliver North's efforts.  The efforts were never anything more than deemed illegal.  The Boland Amendment to the defense appropriations act was anything but clear cut, and no one was ever prosecuted for behavior involved in the actual arming of the Contras in Nicaragua.  The prosecutions had to do with lying to Congress, which is a separate issue in my mind.  Just a little change, but I think it helps the neutrality of the article on this small front.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.184.19.174 (talk) 23:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed the word illegal from Iran-Contra reference 

message: he was referred to as a "petty criminal" on cable news today, is there any truth to that or is it just metaphor? 66.220.113.98 (talk) 20:37, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: arrest record

message: Are the Norquist children adopted? They are very close in age and the yonger one appears to be a natural blond, highly unlikely if her mother is an Arab.  Also, this would seem to confirm other rhumors as well. Dutchman Schultz (talk) 20:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What's a rhumor? Moncrief (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: 1. talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source. 2. a statement or report current without known authority for its truth.  Dutchman Schultz (talk) 00:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a rumor. Moncrief (talk) 01:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, be an ass hole! If you really cared about Wikipedia, instead of being a snot about it, you would simply have corrected my typing error and let it drop. But no, you have to be sarcastic, uncharitable, petty, nit-picking, and just a total shit about it. Go troll somewhere else; Wikipedia needs coöperation, not sabotage! Dutchman Schultz (talk) 02:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I already know Moncrief is an asshole, but you, Dutchman Schultz, you need to polish your "A" game. You had the trolls head right on your plate and you blew it.12.39.179.62 (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And how should I have handled it? R.M. Schultz (talk) 02:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: adopted children

message: I think this line:
"Norquist is best known for founding Americans for Tax Reform in 1985, which he did at the request of President Ronald Reagan."
needs to be either removed or have a different source. Right now the source is the Americans for Tax Reform website. Can their own "about" section really be a proper source for this statement?
I came over to this article in Wikipedia specifically to find a source for that statement & was a little bummed when it directed me right back to ATR.
I tried a quick search on google but couldn't really find anything better.
66.158.61.130 (talk) 17:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I have slightly revised the wording to better match the claim and the source from which it is derived.  Grandpallama (talk) 14:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better source for statement "ATR started at request of Ronald Reagan" 

message: Should there be a mention on Norquist trying to get Reagan on the 10 dollar bill in place of Alexander Hamilton.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.55.32.72 (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency 

message: How was Norquist a volunteer for Nixon's 1968 campaign during his "teenage years" when he wasn't even a teenager until 1969 (born October 1956)? 174.19.137.71 (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done   Davemck (talk) 18:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teenage years? 

message: Is there some reason the article doesn't indicate what state he's governor of? And shouldn't this be sentence number 1, as it is for others? Betaneptune (talk) 03:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Betaneptune: You don't say who you mean when you say "he," but I assume you're referring to George W. Bush. Bush was governor of Texas, and I've clarified that in the article. I don't see any reference to Grover Norquist being "governor" of anything, but I'll take another look. Famspear (talk) 04:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governor of what state? 

message: "Conservative Libertarian" is not an occupation. Suggest "Political activist". 72.66.76.211 (talk) 03:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Done.--S. Rich (talk) 04:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occupation 

message: ATR About Grover says he was staff on past Republican Campaign Committees and the Executive Direct of College Republicans. That is enough to say he's a Republican & categorize him as same. --S. Rich (talk) 15:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  GN as a Republican 

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message: Norquist was at an event I attended this past weekend. Took a few pictures. Putting them here in case editors of this page find them useful (the outdoor context may be too "unprofessional" or may add variety -- I don't know). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  pics