Talk:Seoul/Archive 1

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How do we picture Seoul? What does Seoul mean for the foreign visitors in our city? A hometown? Merely a stopover? Seoul has turned into a grand metropolis made up of people from all over the country, while experiencing swift economic development. Now as we await the coming 21st century, Seoul is no longer a strange land for any of us, no matter which part of the country we come from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.152.156.53 (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2002 (UTC)
thread_title: Initial message

message: According to http://english.metro.seoul.kr/about/cityfacts/history.cfm
Seoul has a lot longer history that is here described. 
<quote>Baekje Kingdom was founded in 18 B.C. by Onjo, who was believed to be a son of Jumong of Goguryeo, with its capital at Habuk Wirye Castle in the north of the Hangang, but the capital was moved to the south of Hangang four years later. The name "Hanseong" as the capital of Baekje Kingdom was first recorded during the reign of King Biryu. With its capital in Hanseong, Baekje enjoyed its prime time during the reign of King Geunchogo in the mid-fourth century. </quote>
--Xaos —The preceding comment was added on 05:34, 8 October 2002.
:I've just added a bit on this. Hope it's fine. diwiki 09:26, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longer history 

message: Could information on Digital Media City be added to this?  --Daniel C. Boyer 23:35, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Digital Media City 

message: I have removed/ changed the follwoing information:
: With over 10 million registered citizens, the city of Seoul is the most populated single city (excluding greater metropolitan areas) in the world that human civilization has yet known - see Rand McNally (ISBN: 0-528-83872-5). 
I have done this, because accoriding to the following page World Gazetteer this is no longer the case. Measuring city size is very complicated and any list produced is contested. I hope the version I produced is good enough. DiruWiki 13:35, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed text about city size 

message: I've uploaded a few images i took on a short trip to Seoul in March '03. -- Gabriel Wicke 00:49, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uploaded images 

message: Is there any difference in spelling of "seoul" between three romanization systems of Korean? (MR, RR, and Yale) WhisperToMe 04:29, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The newly added info box (thanks Sewing!) should answer this question. Kokiri 22:49, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Please also note that I've removed the hangeul in the text (just been added), because it's all there in the info box... It shoul make a more pleasant read for those not so proficient of the Korean script. Kokiri 22:49, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Indeed! The intro is much neater now. And, at the same time, the Hangul, Hanja, and Romanizations are organized much better and readable now. Good job, Sewing! --Menchi 00:21, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, guys!  I'm glad the idea's being so well received!  (At least by 2 people...)  For WhisperToMe: sorry, but it's enough work doing everything in 3 romanizations (the 2 official ones plus whatever spelling a word or name commonly happens to have in English), that Yale will just complicate things.  For the record, 서울 in Yale romanization is "Sewl."  --Sewing 01:29, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romanization 

message: Johnhunkim added a lot of cool pictures, but do they have copyrights?
Someone should double check that these pictures are ok to use. 
Nesnad 13:45, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  no  copyright? 

message: The "Popular Tourist Sites" and "Where To Shop" sections also appear at.  As this page on the same website states that work on that site is not under a public license, it should probably not be in the article unless the one who posted it was the original holder, or else had permission to do so (which really should have been noted somewhere).  I'm a bit unclear on how to proceed at this point, since it was only part of the article which was copied, and not the entire thing, and don't really want to see this page disappear under an infringement notice.  Any help here? --Zonath 12:09, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
:Reverted to pre-copvio version per instructions on Wikipedia:Copyright problems. --Duk 16:57, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Violation Alert: 

message: There's no way that Seoul's area is only 607km².  Incheon's is given as 900-something, and Incheon is clearly smaller, both in population and area, than Seoul is.  Would someone please find out the correct number and rectify this?
As an aside, no reputable source I can find puts Seoul's metropolitan area at 20-something million.  This seems to be based, as I understand it, upon South Korean government figures?  I don't know what that entails or what their methodology is, but I'm inclined to suggest that more useful numbers probably come from the UN Population Division, which put Seoul's urban area at 9.7 million.  There are often discrepancies between the UN's figures for an urban area and those that the country itself has come up with. For instance, the UN's urban area figures give New York's population at 18.3 million in 2003, and by adding outlying county populations (some of which, although used by the US in the (now-obsolete) CMSA, really have no business in a calculation of New York's metro area) using the US's own figures, the discrepancy is less than 4 million, at about 22 million people.  This is notable, because the US has been known to inflate their metropolitan areas, for example considering Atlantic City as part of Philadelphia's metro area, despite being separated by about 70 miles of farmland.  The UN figures are rather more realistic.
--Vladtheinhaler 13:45, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The definition of a city seems to be different from western countries. From what I understand, if the population of a gun (county) raises over 150,000 ppl, the whole gun becomes a si (city). It doesn't matter, if it is one contiguous town or if there are several settlements within the area. See Subdivisions of South Korea. That's why Incheon is that big: "The city boundaries include an area of 964.53 km², of which 21 percent is rice paddies and another 44 percent is forested.". The area of Seoul 605.52 Km² according to . And the city itself has over slihtly 10 Million residents, so a definition with the metropolian area with just 9.7 million residents seems not very relieable to me. Incheon (2.4 million),  Suwon (1.1 million), Seongnam (1 million), Goyang (1 million) and bucheon (0.8 million) are the biggest cities within the Seoul metropolian area. Don't know, how big the distance between these cities is. -- IGEL 19:40, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area and Metro Population 

message: If Seoul had been conquered by the Commies in the Korean War, would it have been renamed Kim il-Sung City much like how Saigon was renamed Ho Chi Minh City after their commies conquered it? User:Bjornar, if you read this, you have access to an authoritative source so please answer here. --Shultz 22:47, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Kim il-Sung City"?

message: The mention of the gaming scene in South Korea doesn't look like it belongs in this article.  Of course gaming is big in Seoul, but what's described there is clearly a nation-wide trend rather than something Seoul specific.  Something like "As with the rest of South Korea, online gaming and professional gaming are a major form of recreation." will suffice. 82.123.152.66 23:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaming in South Korea