Talk:The Chicks

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move page.  (non-admin closure)  — YoungForever(talk)  07:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Dixie Chicks →  – Let's do this the appropriate way. Considering the previous move discussion was closed as "moot", I'm starting a new discussion since the page has now been moved back to its previous long-standing title. There is no reason why the title of this article should still be under "Dixie Chicks" or "The Dixie Chicks". They have officially changed their name and we should follow suit. As pointed out in the previous discussion, WP:NAMECHANGES states: "If reliable sources are using the new name, Wikipedia should use the new name". "(The) Dixie Chicks" will still redirect here if the article is moved to "The Chicks", so no reader would be lost or looking for the former. There is honestly no sensible reason why this should still be at the old title. AshMusique (talk) 07:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: There can only be one open move request at a time on a talk page. Since the earlier request proposed this title, Dixie Chicks, it has been closed and this request will remain open to determine the highest and best title for this article. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 16:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

text: Note I see that tags haven't been added and this hasn't been relisted at WP:RM, suggesting that the procedure wasn't followed correctly. Could the requester or an admin fix this? () Nzd (talk) 11:51, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   per WP:RMUM and WP:TITLES, consensus must shown before a move. I've added the proper RM notice to the top of this so it will appear listed at WP:RM. -- Netoholic @ 12:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

text: *This has been debunked. Try again.--BaseFree (talk) 14:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

text: *Gonna need citation on this claim--BaseFree (talk) 14:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A citation for the fact that "The Chicks" isn't the name used in the prevalence of reliable sources about this subject? – bradv🍁 14:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A citation that their name isn’t their name--BaseFree (talk) 14:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think you understand how this works. This is an encyclopedia - our content reflects what is written in reliable sources. At the moment, the sources continue to use the name that they've used for the past 30 years. Once that changes, we will follow suit. (Also, please stop screwing around with the previous discussion - we don't need two requested moves open at once.) – bradv🍁 15:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Bradv, BaseFree was just another sock, but what happened was your initial comment was taken wrong: BaseFree (who was a sock of a none-too-bright editor) though your "which hasn't changed" referred to the name of the group, but you were pointing at the name of the guideline. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I'm not surprised that they were a sock. I am a little surprised that this discussion is going the way it is, since we don't usually move things until the COMMONNAME used in reliable source changes. Consider the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, which announced a name change in 2018, yet we still haven't moved it after at least 3 RM discussions. – bradv🍁 15:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , that is odd, for sure. Drmies (talk) 16:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 June 2020 

message: Noticing that despite the article name being updated, the vast majority of internal mentions of the band within the article and mentions on other articles have not been updated. Is this just a clerical task nobody got around to, or was there a consensus against updating the name when talking about earlier work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by El Sandifer (talk • contribs) 20:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: A change of name doesn't change what they were called in the past. Consider Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship, and Starship. Even though there's a clear timeline of history for the band, different names are appropriate for the different eras of the band. So depending on the context, "Dixie Chicks" might be the appropriate name to be mentioned. —C.Fred (talk) 21:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The question, it seems to me, is what sort of name change we're talking about. That is, is The Chicks renaming more like Jefferson Airplane/Starship or more like a trans person? I'd argue given the reasoning—a specific desire not to associate themselves with the Confederacy—that it's potentially closer to the latter. El Sandifer (talk) 22:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing Old References 

message: The chicks are definitely a bluegrass band, not a country band. 
A) They play acoustic instruments rather than electric. 
B) They have no drummer, as is universal in country bands. 45.51.188.112 (talk) 04:48, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you basing this just on original research, or has a reliable source described them as a bluegrass band? —C.Fred (talk) 11:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

text: All releases since Maines joined have featured both electric and acoustic instruments according to the liner notes. And all but one list a drummer among the personnel. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 14:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluegrass!