Talk:Rivers of classical antiquity

message: Korkoras?  When did Latin use the letter "K"? -- Zoe
:The elementary Latin dictionary here (my partner actually knows the language) has a grand boldfaced capital K section heading, with exactly one entry: Kalendae, -arum (kalends). There might be a couple of others in a more thorough dictionary, but I am suspicious too.Vicki Rosenzweig
::Mine also shows an alternate spelling of Carthago, and a couple of derivative adjectives of those two words, but that ain't saying much. A google search turns up a couple of example of "Korkoras", and a few more of "Corcoras", so who knows... I don't know what kind of authoratative source to look this kind of thing up in. --Brion
:: Some philologists here (and in Russia) claim that Latin used K at the beginning of loanwords from Slavic language that were beginning with K. In particular, Kalendae ;)
Unrelated to this, could anyone add Latin name of Morava (all or any of them)? Nikola 19:59, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much done, I think? The linked page lists zapadna and juzna. --Joy [shallot] 09:21, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: User:Miraclepine, anyone else:  I just removed the  template on the article, for discussion here.  I and maybe others have been developing the article a bit now, so it may no longer be a candidate for transwiki-ing, especially because i am not sure how "transwiki" works.  Was the idea to create a page like this in Wiktionary, or was it just intended to make sure each Wiktionary entry for each river covered should be edited to include the Latin name? --Doncram (talk) 00:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The proposal to transwiki is probably not going to go anywhere, or even be discussed substantially here.  User:Johnbod, at the ongoing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Latin names of rivers, noted that the proposer has been banned, and I see at the proposer's Talk page stuff that indicates it is likely they will be out for 6 months or more.  So I think there's no one to discuss this.  However, if anyone is informed about transwiki-ing and could comment definitively, e.g. perhaps to put a wooden stake into it, or the opposite, that would be appreciated by me. --Doncram (talk) 02:02, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think dead for now. Let's just let it rest. Johnbod (talk) 03:40, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  transwiki? 

message: Okay the current list now has coordinates for all but a few lacking articles or lacking coordinates in their articles (and after I fixed up some that way).  Looking at the linked OSM map, it is clear this is a very incomplete list.  If you drill in anywhere, you'll find another unlisted fluvius, e.g. Charente River (Latin name not given in its article) in France.  Or even anywhere in Italia you will see there are more.  None of Sicilia's are listed.  The current list includes only two fluvii in modern-day Turkey, while the included, very large-scale and non-detailed map of Roman Empire in Trajan's time, at 117 AD, shows about ten.  I just made sure all the fluvii explicitly labelled on that Trajan map are included, by adding: Liger (Loire), Tigris, Euphrates, Araxes (Aras).
It currently seems a bit random to me, and it would be nice to be able to describe the scope better than, say, "selected rivers in the Roman Empire or known to the Romans". --Doncram (talk) 01:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: And now all but a few fluvii are assigned by me to regions.  Review/completions/corrections would be welcomed. --Doncram (talk) 20:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope: fluvii listed

message: I wonder what is the actual source of the original list of rivers and their Latin names.  And what can actually be used now, by me and/or others, to verify/source various Latin names?  The DARE (Digital Atlas of the Roman Empire) source is not detailed enough to answer very many questions, and consulting raises other questions.  Help? --Doncram (talk) 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: DARE source doesn't show "Ister" anywhere along it, AFAICT.  Help! --Doncram (talk) 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources and questions

message: Ister = per this article, is apparently Lower Danube;  Danubius = Upper Danube.  Where did the river change name, in Roman times?  Currently in list-article i used "Ister" repeatedly explaining various rivers being tributaries.  But maybe Ister only refers to a very low portion, perhaps just the delta of the Danube on the Black Sea. ??? --Doncram (talk) 22:56, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: DARE source doesn't show "Ister" anywhere along it, AFAICT.  Help! --Doncram (talk) 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ister vs. Danubius? 

message: About the Ufente, this list-article says its Latin name is "Aufentis".  But Strabo, as referenced in its article (new, with link to Strabe text kindly provided by Evvekk, thanks!), calls it "Aufidus".  This list-article says "Aufidus" is the name of the Ofanto, a completely different river.  The DARE source is not detailed enough to give a Latin name for either, AFAICT, even tho the Ofanto is quite a major river.  Help! --Doncram (talk) 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Aufentis vs. Aufidus