Talk:American folk music

message: The article is still written as if it was titled "American roots music". The wording should be changed so as to properly reflect it current title. The term "American roots music" as an alternitive term and why it's called that should then be discussed within. --Cab88 23:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: about the move from american roots music to american folk music

message: Do "folk-pop" musicians like Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan count as part of American folk music? Is there reason that there's not much mention of popular "folk music" apart from traditional, community sung songs?  FireWorks 10:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That type certainly should.   But Joni is Canadian. North8000 (talk) 10:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  And is Canada not part of America? Blackbird5555 (talk) 05:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the common meaning of "America" by itself is the USA. North8000 (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folk Musicians 

message: I removed the section " More recent musicians who occasionally or consistently play roots music include Keb' Mo', Ralph Stanley, Pete Seeger, Iron & Wine, and Ricky Skaggs.  Additionally, the soundtrack to the 2000 comedy film O Brother, Where Art Thou? is exclusively roots music, performed by Alison Krauss, The Fairfield Four, Emmylou Harris, Norman Blake and others.  The 2003 film A Mighty Wind is a tribute to (and parody of) the folk-pop musicians of the early 1960s." because it is unorganized and needs to be rewritten. Ralph Stanley is now an elderly man and has been recording for at least half a century, and doesn't fit in the same category as Iron and Wine. A reexamination of "contemporary" is needed.
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*whether you offer an explanation or not, you still can't just go and delete things like this unless you're going to rewrite them yourself. put a cleanup tag on it or something, don't remove information. Gordonjay 14:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He's right that Ralph Stanley doesn't fit the category of "more recent musicians who occasionally or consistently play roots music," though. Although Ralph Stanley is still performing and cranking out albums, he and The Stanley Bothers go way back, and are among the originators of Bluegrass and fathers of old timey recording. ColmCille 09:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Roots Musicians 

message: Didn't radio play a big role in the spread? Kdammers (talk) 11:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio 

message: I think that subject of the article, as defined by it's title, is broader than what the lead says. Much American folk music is excluded. North8000 (talk) 03:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I tweaked the lead a little so to not exclude other types of American Folk Music.  Of course, this begs the question of coverage of the other types, but that just means that this is just step one. North8000 (talk) 13:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At the other general folk music we decided to sort of split folk music into contemporary folk music and traditional music.  Someday we can get all of those organized.  As baby steps in that direction I plan to divide this article along those lines.  If you prefer otherwise I'll revert myself (or feel free to revert me) while we discuss.  Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great content, but the lead limits scope too much for the subject/title  

message: — Assignment last updated by Nicolefrones (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Historical Research Methods

message: I thought about adding a section defining folk music, and the distinction between the terms folk, Americana, roots, old-time, and country, for example. This could also be a part of the opening paragraph.  Nicolefrones (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Although "blues" is mentioned several times in the article, starting with the lede, there seems to be no discussion of the subject in the article.  So I added a more or less empty "Blues" section, but on more serious reflection am inclined to change that to something like "African-American folk music" so that a large amount of black pre-blues stuff could be added.  How does this seem to you? Carptrash (talk) 18:23, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be an interesting angle if there is coverage as such.  If not, then names are what this is about and IMO Blues are Blues. North8000 (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:   I'd love to be able to sit down and discuss exactly what "Blues are Blues" means but in place of that I have Eileen Southern's book The Music of Black Americans in which a large variety of slave songs are discussed.  These can only be termed "folk music" and include religious or spiritual songs, work songs, including boat songs, cotton songs, corn husking songs, roustabout (gonna have to look that one up) songs, woodcutters songs, then dance songs, play songs, story songs, satirical songs, and field & street cries (think the beginning of Porgy & Bess).  And these are just the slave songs.  It is a long way, no doubt filled with music, from emancipation until the blues show up.  We'll see where, if anywhere, this goes but I don't want to spend a lot, or even a little effort on this just to have it caboshed. Carptrash (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. I didn't mean anything heavy duty about IMO "Blues are Blues", it was just a matter of what name is applied to it.   I think that it's a pretty cool and interesting concept to consider what you described as folk music.  But you're really going to need a source that explores it as such, you and I can't just make up the concept and write about it.  If you have a source that does that I'd a support putting it in here and then I think it would be pretty safe from getting caboshed. if not, not.  Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 00:55, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I rarely go out of my own library for sources, so we'll see what i can dig up, I not sure if Southern uses the term "folk music" or not, but if blues are considered to be folk music I don't see why field hollers would not be since they are a precursor to the blues.  Anyway I am not expecting to see anything happen too quickly, but it is on my mind, so . . . . ..... Carptrash (talk) 06:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blues 

message: The sentence, ""Sixteen Tons" was written in 1946 by Merle Travis about the plight of coal miners and life in company towns. Travis also penned "Dark as a Dungeon," which was most notably performed by Johnny Cash". is really (opinion) not about folk songs so does t belong in the article?  Carptrash (talk) 20:21, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do these belong here?