Talk:Susan Kadis

message: The following POV-pushing text needs to be fixed:
:In May 2004, she abandoned her position as city councillor to pursue her own agenda federally and then in July 2004 she officially resigned her position as city councillor in mid-term after being elected federally (source of info. City of Vaughan http://www.city.vaughan.on.ca/
The word "abandoned" is not needed, as "resigned" suffices.  Also the text "her own agenda federally" seem unecessary, once it's stated she's ran for, and won federal office.  Also, the link given, is just a city's home page, and the home page doesn't specifically relate to this.  --rob 13:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Abandoned PoV

message: What the anon editor posted:
:In a report from CTV news  it said Susan Kadis and her cronies spent over $380.000.00 of taxpayers money this year on lunches.
::No, it did not. It said that Kadis and other MPs get free lunches. These MPs, from all four parties and independents, are not Kadis's cronies by any stretch of the imagination. The article quotes her, but does not suggest that she is a ring-leader in MPs getting free lunches, as they have done for a long time.
:Kadis has got her family members and cronies on the federal payroll .
::The reference does not say that Kadis got her family members and cronies on the federal payorll. All it says is that Jim Peterson, MP, has someone with the last name "Kadis" on payroll. Even if it is her son, there is nohing in federal hiring rules to prevent children of MPs from working for other MPs or federal agencies.
:Her illegal interference in a municipal by-election where she got her federal employees to run her friends campaign.
::No evidence provided by anon editor.
:In May 2004 under controversial circumstances, she stopped attending city council meetings without taking a leave of absence to pursue election to the Canadian House of Commons, and then on July 9, 2004  she officially resigned her position as city councillor after being elected federally on June 28, 2004.
::The reference here does not provide evidence of any of the so-called "controversy". It only provides evidence that she resigned her position as councillor after she was elected to the House of Commons, which is perfectly legal. No evidence has been provided that she "abandoned" her position or failed to take a leave of absence. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that no evidence has been provided for that. Ground Zero | t 23:11, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: November 22 edits

message: * I don't think the external links on this page really need to be there. They're clearly partisan in nature and they're things that could be found by simply searching her name on Google. This is an encyclopedia, not a place for people to try and present one-sided, biased news articles pm_shef 22:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: Is there any substantive reason for Wikipedia to go out of its way to characterize Susan Kadis as a feminist? Has she specifically been involved in feminist activism, or is it just being added in the sense that it's applied by certain people to any woman with a public career? Bearcat 07:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: Just for the record: any MP is allowed to endorse or support any leadership candidate of their choice; Kadis does not have any geographic or scratch-my-back obligation to support Bevilacqua or Volpe for the leadership. (Especially since, let's be honest, neither one of them really has much chance of winning in the first place.) This article is not to communicate any POV assumption or expectation that she should be supporting somebody she isn't. How many times, exactly, have we had to point out that neutral point of view and verifiability are not negotiable requirements on Wikipedia? Bearcat 01:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Leadership endorsement

message: The neutrality of this article is disputed; the article appears to be very much a self-written promotion.  She has been involved in many scandals coming from Vaughan council and now within the federal liberal party, she was even asked by liberal insiders to step a side.  None of this relevant information for an encyclopaedia article is mentioned--ThornhilllWatch 17:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Seeing as none of your claims are even remotely substantiated by any sources whatsoever, I've removed the tag. -- Chabuk [ T • C ] 17:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The neutrality of this article is disputed 

message: Is there a source on that or was it just assumed that an ethnic Jew would be of the Jewish faith?  --JGGardiner 08:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't necessarily mean that she's believes in Judaism.  It is quite possible, and more likely in my opinion, that the newspaper meant that she is part of the Jewish community and merely of Jewish ethnicity.  I doubt that they had asked each of those five MPs what they think about religion; they merely knew their ethnicities.  Kadis' own use of the term is also likely in an ethnic/social sense.  I may be wrong but we shouldn't assume a particular meaning when several are possible.  I don't think that is a sufficient citation.  One shouldn't assume that a person believes in the Jewish religion merely because they are of Jewish ethnicity.  --JGGardiner 17:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are looking for a link which states she believes in Judaism, I don't think you will find one (I tried but was unsuccessful). However, when her father passed away in 2003 the family had a shiva which is a religious function (if found this in the obituary here: http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/200os/03sau002.htm). --YUL89YYZ 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So this is something of an educated guess?  --JGGardiner 01:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. However, I would be very surprised if you asked her if she was Jewish and she replied "only ethnic". --YUL89YYZ 10:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's probably true.  I doubt she's a Bobby Fischer.  But I have also met more than a few people who have told me exactly that.  There are plenty of atheist Jews out there.  Personally I think that we shouldn't say anything in the absence of evidence.  I actually thought that it would be easy to find but I had no luck searching as well.  --JGGardiner 00:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your position is reasonable and logical. I agree with you to remove the religion reference. --YUL89YYZ 09:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks.  Sorry if I was a little pushy on that one.  When I first asked, I actually thought that a synagogue membership would show up.  One probably will sooner or later.  --JGGardiner 19:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

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