Talk:Faggot

message: This slur is frequently used against trans women. Therefore, I think that there should be a section of the article talking about this. 92.0.35.8 (talk) 22:11, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @92.0.35.8 no Matteow101 (talk) 21:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Matteow101 Why not? JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 (correct me if I'm wrong) 19:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

text: This slur is frequently used against all people who were amab because it functions as gender policing.--Reprarina (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think its use a slur for trans women is notable enough on its own though. It may well be used again "all people who were AMAB", sure, but it isn't as such a "slur for AMABs". It's for gay men - and for trans women. It IS a thing. Trans women get called it for being trans woman. Nobody gets called it merely for being "AMAB" alone. StrexcorpEmployee (talk) 01:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use against trans women 

message: This is an incredibly American article.
It has a short section detailing 'importation by and usage of the word within the United Kingdom' - except it really just isn't a word used much if at all as a pejorative / homophobic slur in UK culture. It is well-known, from aforementioned US media / cultural imports, but that's the point; it's known as something the Americans say.
British don't really use it, mostly because it's so confusing and weird to do so. We already (as mentioned) use 'faggot' for several innocuous things and it's a stupid-sounding word; 'fag' is universally a cigarette not a gay man in normal conversation... British teens will literally just use the direct call-out "Gay" as a pejorative and standard-strength homophobic slur (what a weird thing to be writing, by the way). If stronger is needed, they'll just add "Fucking" to something like 'queer' for best aggressive articulation of the mouth. 'Faggot' isn't harsh-sounding enough for the way Brits swear and curse.
So, look; this article is about a word which, due to awareness of Americanisms, causes problems from time to time in the UK (notably with censorship of the Christmas song 'Fairytale of new york') but this article should be far more clearly marked as being about a US slang pejorative term, as it's really not that in the UK and i just don't feel that this article reads clearly enough in that manner.
(And if you simply cite sources & examples, then yes of course you're going to very easily find all of the few dozen sensationalist examples in the media where it has been held up as a problem - and you're just going to ignore or miss the huge cultural backdrop of correct context - ie; you will get the wrong impression.) 2a00:23c7:3119:ad01:9de0:d1c8:7b0f:934d (talk) 17:01, 25 December 2022: (UTC)
**What are you talking about? There is a section on British use that says all this. Did you even read the article? Dronebogus (talk) 05:42, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  US pejorative slang 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved to Faggot. Faggot moved to Faggot (disambiguation). (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks (contribs) 15:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Faggot (slang) →  – Slur seems more accurate than slang. While the article does mention that some people have reclaimed the term, it's much more widely perceived as a slur, isn't it? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  The content of the article seems to be encompassing the term in all its slang uses, not merely as a slur. If you want to reduce the article to the US slur alone, then some content should be removed (to, say, a parent article on its other usages).  Which seems to be rather pointless duplication.  It seems to be more expedient to just keep it all here, and leave the title broad. Walrasiad (talk) 16:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  We already have faggot which disambiguates the other uses. Mentioning that there are other uses in the UK seems fine as background context. As I said, the UK section mentions that this is used as a pejorative there so saying this is simply a "US slur" is inaccurate. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 15 April 2023 

message: Struggling to see the necessity of an entirely new section for less than a paragraph of words with three different sources dating back to 2020 and 2019. It could very well, and likely should, be shifted into the "2010s-2020s" section of use, where both the sources originate from and the point of "Reclamation" is fully emerged.
Putting it up to the Talk page for other users to discuss before any action is taken. Vilo2023 (talk) 20:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That 21st century section is for music rather than the word in general —Panamitsu (talk) 22:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies, missed that headline. Even still, the "Reclamation" section could very well be made into a section of "Use", rather than having a tab to itself. Vilo2023 (talk) 16:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "Reclamation" Section