Talk:Snake Eyes (G.I. Joe)

message: Who is the "many" in "many feel that Scarlett could not have survived such a wound" referring to?
-KarmaInferno (talk) 21:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure, I do not know where this information came from, and think unless we can cite it, this text should be removed as it seems to be speculative. Sgetz (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambiguous wording in "G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero - Marvel Comics" chapter

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message: I think someone's a little too free with that "in-universe style" tag... I see it attached to a lot of articles that go into explaining the fiction from the perspective of someone who isn't part of it (i.e. you and me). The Manual of Style says:
"An in-universe perspective describes the narrative from the perspective of characters within the fictional universe, treating it as if it were real and ignoring real-world context and sourced analysis. The threshold of what constitutes in-universe writing is making any effort to re-create or uphold the illusion of the original fiction by omitting real-world info."
I don't see that being done here. Am I the only one?--Tyranastrasz (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article focused more on plot summary than on out-of-universe details. This article needs to be severly trimmed and rewritten. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To really understand Snake-Eyes in all of his incarnations, you need to understand him through plot summaries. He was always one of the main characters in the comics that was truly fleshed out with a history. Sgetz (talk) 16:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: In-Universe Style?

message: Weird. In Resolute, Snake-Eyes was called Storm Shadow. Looks like there was a mix-up. 76.179.24.20 (talk) 21:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When/where? I don't remember him being identified by name in the "current" time frame, and the flash-back scenes I'm pretty sure he was consistently called "Snake Eyes" those few times he was identified by name. --EEMIV (talk) 21:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They refer to Storm Shadow by name when they said he sabotaged their aircraft carrier and killed Bazooka.  In the flashback though, I don't know.  They might've made a mistake.  Dream Focus 18:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Error

message: I'm afraid I don't see a good reason for including a detailed description of the trailer; unless this trailer is for something other than the 2009 movie, I don't understand why there would be a separate section for the trailer.  Other sections don't have blow-by-blow action descriptions, just simple summaries, and I'm not clear on what makes this section different.  It seems to give undo weight to this relatively brief bit of film to me. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've asked several users about this and say its ok i had it as movie plot but some IP kept deleting it their it shows what we know of the person so far The Movie Master 1 (talk) 23:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why can't it just wait until the movie is released and a plot summary is available?  That would save the effort of rewriting the article, and avoid having a less-good version in place until the movie's release.  Wikipedia is not the news, so there's no requirement of instant but partial information  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Normally, that discussion would happen here; can you link to the other discussion? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I got your message, but I'm replying here; as you can see, it's easier to keep discussion on the article talk page, so others can participate.  I see the discussion on your talk page now, but of the two people who responded, one of them said that there shouldn't be a separate section for the trailer, and the other said that we shouldn't use information from the trailer, but wait until the movie plot is available.  Of the people you polled, the only one who responded also said that this material shouldn't be included at this time, and another person chimed in to agree.  That makes, as far as I can tell, 0 people who agree with you that this information should be included, and 6 who think it shouldn't.  Are you sure, with the discussion that has happened so far, that you want to continue making this edit?  It is against the consensus that exists so far. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

text: They both said it was fine, Just the header should be different than 2009 film The Movie Master 1 (talk) 23:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's a good idea to have the section at all, but because the section was restored after I removed it, I offered the compromise of calling it "film trailer" instead of "movie plot" as it was originally called in this and other G.I. Joe articles. BOZ (talk) 03:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

text:  I do not see any reason to have a section that describes every time we see Snake-Eyes in the Trailer. Sometimes, Trailers show scenes that do not make it into the movie. I do not see any reason to have this mentioned in this article, unless you can show me where it has been done before on other Wikipedia Articles. Sgetz (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I deleted it a long time ago as several people said it shouldnt be there The Movie Master 1 (talk) 20:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Trailer

message: This is being discussed on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_G.I._Joe to set up the name convention for all pages in the project. As the first and most subsequent release of Snake Eyes have been named Snake Eyes without the dash, I think the page should be renamed accordingly. Also, to fit the G.I. Joe character part, this page should have the (G.I. Joe) attached to it. Anyone see a reason why it should not be moved, or should it be named something different? If no one has any problems with this, I would like to move the page in August. Sgetz (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, this page would have to be a (G.I. Joe) no matter what, because there is already a Snake Eyes Page. I also looked at the most recent Intel from Hasbro's site, and it again names him Snake Eyes, no dash.Sgetz (talk
*I support it and tried to rename it, but found there is already a page by that name, which redirects here. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Snake_Eyes_(G.I._Joe)&redirect=no An administrator will have to do it.  Dream Focus 19:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was because some of the file cards called him Snake-Eyes, specifically V2. But, that just became the convention of naming throughout this page. Sgetz (talk
* Remember to sign all of your post.  I posted at the administrator request area  and the name has been fixed.  Dream Focus 20:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed - Rename Article - Snake Eyes (G.I. Joe) 

message: I have overhauled the comic series information as Hasbro has officially disavowed the DDP series and is now using a new series by IDW Publishing to continue the original Marvel run. I have cited the information in my changes. Please comment and make changes accordingly. Please do not restore the previous version as this is the new direction from Hasbro. Sgetz (talk) 04:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comics Overhaul 

message: Should be trimmed at least a bit. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 11:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot section are too detailed 

message: I can't see it here, maybe it's elsewhere.  --194.145.185.229 (talk) 16:14, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is, that your edits have been reverted several times by more than one editor, but instead of trying to come to a consensus here on the talk page, you continue to just change things back to your POV. This edit warring has been going on for months, it is not constructive to Wikipedia, and it disrupts progress towards improving the article. Furthermore, edit summaries such as: "this is how it should be written on Wikipedia", border on claiming ownership, and when you state "if you have some reading attention problems maybe Simple English Wikipedia would be more for you", that is a personal attack, and goes against WP:CIVIL. The first couple times that your edits were reverted, you were given the benefit of the doubt, but this type of editing is not helpful or constructive, and can actually be harmful to Wikipedia. Fortdj33 (talk) 17:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's this "consensus" thing to compulsively revert my edits? 

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message: While 30+ years of depictions across many media, Snake Eyes name is normally never given.  However, in a Transformers vs. GI Joe comic book last year, they depicted a full name for Snake Eyes.  I've now tried twice to insert this information, only to have it reverted both times, most recently with a note that what I was including was "non canon.".
I'm not aware of any policy on Wikipedia that says that information about a fictional character must be restricted to only what is considered canonical, especially if the information (canon or not) is from an officially licensed depiction of the character.
How can this information be noted in the article in a way that will be acceptable to other editors?
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replies: text: I'm not sure I see a problem with including it more or less as proposed. Pinging User:Fortdj33 for his views on this. bd2412 T 19:08, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the information was introduced in the Transformers vs. G.I. Joe comic book, it could be included with references in the Comics section, as long as it is noted that it's non-canon. But IMO, it doesn't belong in the overall profile of the character. Fortdj33 (talk) 15:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sounds like a reasonable compromise. After all, using a "Witwicky" name is sort of a Transformers inside joke. bd2412 T 15:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: I need to bring this up since IP address 47.232.201.144 is deleting info for no reason, since there is no picture of him at the moment, he needs to be described what he looks like and it's simply a fact that Snake-Eyes is a Caucasian male with blonde hair and blue eyes as it was shown in the comics. (G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #93) (G.I. Joe: Scarlett: Declassified)  Deleting that info doesn't just somehow make it not true.108.208.137.192 (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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