Talk:Motion picture content rating system

message: I have repeatedly asked you to discuss changes to the highlighting here. Once again you have altered the highlighting so that the table becomes inconsistent, and does not reflect the sourced summaries. Moreover, you have altered the wording to some of the summaries in such a way that it does not reflect the sources. Here is a summary of the problems this time:
* You altered the entry for Nigeria to state that it had "adopted the BBFC classifications". Apart from being ungrammatical, the source does not mention the BBFC at all.
* You altered the highlighting for Fiji suggesting that "Y" is advisory" and that "A" requires parental accompaniment. The summary does not mention parental accompaniment at all; indeed, the source makes it crystal clear these are prohibitive age restrictions i.e. people under that age are not admitted.
* You have reinserted the wording for Lebanon that have I have previously reverted. I have already provided the reasons in the above section, but yet you have ignored them again. Once again you are adding wording that is not included in the source, and fundamentally altering the meaning of the classifcation.
* You altered a key word in the summary for the United States. This is not consistent with the source. The MPA has chosen specific terminology for a reason.
I am now running out of patience with you. It is clear you are WP:NOTHERE and have no intention of observing WP:Verifiability. Practically every single edit you have made to this article has been to make the highlighting in the table contradict the key, and make the country summaries contradict the source. If you do this again then I am going to report to WP:ANI and request that your account is blocked. Betty Logan (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine! Greenpickles987 (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  More disruptive edits 

message: How would anyone use this report in English from L'Orient-Le Jour to expand on Lebanon's film classification (and censorship) system in this article's "Lebanon" section? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 10:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure it is relevant. This article is about Lebanon's rating system, not censorship. Most countries have some system of banning or censoring films, which this article does not get into. If you want to discuss  censorship in Lebanon specifically then Cinema of Lebanon would probably be the best place to do it, although several countries have dedicated articles covering the topic, such as Film censorship in the United States and Film censorship in China. Betty Logan (talk) 20:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, thanks for your tip. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 01:26, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lebanon's system 

message: An anonymous editor is repeatedly changing the background highlighting for the III rating in the Hong Kong entry from black to purple. This edit is making the entry inconsistent with the key and other prohibitive ratings. As explained in the Hong Kong entry, the III rating is a restricted category that is strictly enforced, prohibiting audiences under the age of 18. This can be verified at here. The purple highlighting is for advisory categories, so is incompatible with for this rating. If the rating has been changed then the summary needs to be updated with a new source. Repeatedly changing the table entry so that the rating contradicts the key without providing an edit summary is disruptive. Betty Logan (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong edits 

message: As far as Cambodia’s film rating is concerned, should I post this reference or it has to be on countries film ratings official website?
Example:
* G General viewing
* NC15 NO CHILDREN UNDER 15 YEARS.
* R18 ADULTS ONLY
FireDragonValo (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Or on this website link: https://cambodiacounsel.com/media-content/ FireDragonValo (talk) 17:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cambodia rating system 

message: What do you think of this update?
==Bulgaria==
The Bulgarian film rating system is defined in the Film Industry Act of 2003 and administered by the National Film Rating Committee.
* A – Recommended for children.
* B – No age restrictions. 
* C – Not recommended for children under 12. No persons under 12 shall be admitted unless accompanied by an adult.
* C+ Not recommended for children under 14.
* D – Prohibited for persons under 16.
* D+ – Not recommended for children under 14.
* X – Restricted to adults only. Prohibited for persons under 18, for licensed venues only.
* ? – Not rated yet.
* N/A – No rating. FireDragonValo (talk) 18:17, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks ok. Are the C+ and D+ ratings resticted like the C rating? It's not clear from the legends. Betty Logan (talk) 05:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. The source does not say anything about them. But the D+ rating's description is "Not recommended for children under 16 (not 14)". SPEEDYBEAVER (talk) 18:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgarian film rating system 

message: We should add a separate color for "restricted to licensed premises/venues", given how many countries (Argentina, Bulgaria, Chile, Kazakhstan, etc.) provide ratings for limited exhibition. SPEEDYBEAVER (talk) 18:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not possible. We are limited to five color groups: H:Colorblind. It would add no great benefit, because licensed premises are just another form of prohibitve category. Betty Logan (talk) 12:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petition to add a new color to the comparison table 

message: I did find a high resolution version of the current Canadian Home Video System icons. However, it is in jpg format and I tried to convert it to SVG but it ended up in terrible results. Here’s the archive link to the jpg version: https://web.archive.org/web/20160414170741im_/http://www.mpa-canada.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mpa_canada_ratings_121130_hi-res-01.jpg. If anyone can convert it to SVG perfectly and/or to find it the best possible, let me know. Also, here’s the link to it also: https://www.customaniacs.org/forum/CM_show_preview.php?attachmentid=883497 Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 19:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated: I already converted to SVG and it’s now on pages. Thank you. FireDragonValo (talk) 15:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  High resolution of current Canadian Home Video System icons (jpg format and needs to be converted) 

message: Is it possible to add new Brazilian ratings (AL, A10, A12, A14, A16, A18) to comparison table? FireDragonValo (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a source for these new ratings? We shouldn't be adding anything to the table until the ratings are sourced in the summaries. Betty Logan (talk) 17:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I have the proof or source and here’s the link for that: https://www.gov.br/mj/pt-br/assuntos/seus-direitos/classificacao-1/simbolos-de-autoclassificacao FireDragonValo (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So how does "self-classification" work then? Who does the classifying, and what are the conditions? Betty Logan (talk) 23:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

text: This document states that self-rating is for television shows, while cinema and home video must apply for a rating. Has this changed? Are there any examples of self-rated movies? Betty Logan (talk) 23:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the self-rated symbols because the classification guide states they are not used for cinema/home video (page 38). I suggest adding them to the television ratings page though. Betty Logan (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to know. Thanks. I’ll let you know if there’s more proof and sources if you want. FireDragonValo (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Brazilian ratings to comparison table. 

message: @User:Betty Logan Why did you revert my edit on the Italian ratings in the table? The current version makes no sense, the ratings VM14 and VM18 are repeated twice. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: VM14 and VM18 are not repeated twice. According to the summary they have two age components. For example, 14A is prohibited for under-12s, and restrictive for under-14s. If this is correct then the representation is consistent with the key above the table, and with all the other ratings in the table that have two age components, such as Finland and Norway. If English is your second-language perhaps you have misunderstood the table guide? Betty Logan (talk) 22:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian ratings 

message: * I appreciate that there was no objection in principle, as I added rulers not on an aesthetic whim but due to an accessibility issue personally experienced by me. I don't have a disability, but this is hardly your typical table. The idea was to have a ruler every ~20 rows (not countries), evenly spaced (with height-padded and wrapped-text rows counting for two).
* While I don't see harm in the ruler being there, I don't object to 's point about Canada and Quebec. My line placement was not politically motivated. Incidentally, the line might not have gone there if Canada and Quebec (along with a few others) weren't padded by height styling (IMHO unnecessarily).
* I would suggest that partially objecting editors shift the ruler(s) they object to instead of reverting everything (WP:REVONLY). I believe this would take less of everyone's time than discussing each line separately and delegating all changes to me. I'm not attached to exactly 20 rows spacing, but going much wider would defeat the purpose. Gamapamani (talk) 04:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruler lines 

message: Will you please stop adding unsourced content to the article, or adding sourced content to the article and putting the source in the edit summary. That is not how Wikipedia works. This edit to South Korea may well be true—I couldn't really say—but you have provided no source to back it up. All content added to Wikipedia should be accompanied by an in-line citation. Betty Logan (talk) 01:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  BMBSX edits 

message: On January 1, 2024, there are added content descriptor icons along with the removal of ratings: -7, 7+, 12+ and 15+. Is it okay if I removed the latter of the ratings since it’s no longer useable? Here’s the proof in the link: https://www.jso.sk/. Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say the educational ratings have been removed? All that link seems to confirm is the addition of the descriptor icons for the general ratings. Betty Logan (talk) 23:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Here’s the link to that document about rating changes. Just keep in mind that the language for this document is in Slovak. https://www.jso.sk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Novy-jednotny-system-oznacovania-JSO-pre-AV-diela-a-programy.pdf FireDragonValo (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok thanks, that's fairly emphatic. Feel free to remove the ratings. If you have problems with the table code let me know and I will sort it out. Betty Logan (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: thank you. FireDragonValo (talk) 07:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slovakian rating system added content descriptors and removal of ratings -7, 7+, 12+ and 15+