Talk:Olkiluoto Nuclear Power Plant

message: Article says units 1 & 2 were built by ASEA - but to what design ? 
Are they related to any of the GE BWR/1-6 designs ? Rod57 (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They are of ASEA own (ABB) design. Beagel (talk) 15:27, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design of units 1 and 2 

message: I propose to merge Olkiluoto 3 Nuclear Plant project into this article as duplication. The third unit is the integral part of the Olkiluoto NPP, so no need for the separate article. All information could be provided in this article which is not too long yet. Beagel (talk) 15:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. Teemu Leisti (talk) 10:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

text: I just performed the merge. Teemu Leisti (talk) 10:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: I have rarely seen such unashamed propaganda for wind power as in the paragraph I have just erased.
The only sourced affirmation became meaningless without the rest, which was unbelievably undisguised OR.
To -Teemu Leisti who noted that " this paragraph need(ed) serious editing"
This kind of material does no need serious editing. It needs serious immediate deleting.
Frohfroh (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm making no judgment on the correctness of the material you removed, or on the desireability of developing wind power -- but I guess you're right, it had at best indirect relevance with the article, and deletion was the right choice. Teemu Leisti (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR and partiality 

message: I changed the total installed capacity in the box at the top right from 1720 MW to 1760 MW because I think that 2x880=1760.
Greetings,
Bernd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.137.237.136 (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Installed Capacity 

message: Frohfroh removed my addition: "In 2009 wind power average cost in the European Union was €1.3 million. € /MW in land and €2.6 million. € /MW in see. (10 163 MW 13 mrd. €).Wind in power, 2009 European statistics February 2010 Olkiluoto cost estimated in 2008 as €4.7 billion would equal 3,600 MW wind power with the average investment cost in 2009. If Finland would have installed 500 MW wind power annually since 2002 (equal to Swedish installation in 2009), the volume would have been 3,500 MW in 2008 and 3,600 MW from 2009 forward. Wind power electricity would have been in use since 2002. The lost wind electricity is 64 TWh during 2002-2013. With the price of 6 c/kWh, the lost is equal to €3.8 billion. Wind is costless, domestic and renewable fuel with no fluctuations in price. It may give competitive advantage in the marketing of the products as preferred energy source of the customers.
In my opinion the article is not neutral without comparison to alternatives ie wind power. EWEA has pointed out that wind power produce power from the year 1. Here is shown what it means in Olkiluoto case: 64 TWh with income cash flow and reduced environmental impact from the alternatives during 2002-2013. Also here needs to be estimated the future Nuclear decommissioning cost and Radioactive waste cost and the needed financial insurances to these future costs. Watti Renew (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's quite pointless to compare the cost of dispatchable generation with variable renewable energy because their properties and value are so different. Sivullinen (talk) 22:45, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative power to Olkiluoto 3 

message: I have removed a comparison with the decommissioning costs with the German Niederaichbach nuclear plant (de). While both plants are pressurized water reactors, they have no further similarities: The German power plant was constructed in the 70s and was only rated at 100 MW, i.e. less than one tenth one sixteenth of the Olkiluoto 3 reactor. Comparing decommissioning costs per MW will be highly biased against Olkiluoto. 213.114.125.142 (talk) 18:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decommision comparison with Niederaichbach nuclear plant 

message: Around the construction timing there seem's to be a lot of speculated assumptions. I feel that, where you would blame a part, we should use his chronology, not that of the newspapers or interested parties. I found these lost page where Areva states a 2010 commercial operation, so using 2009 as service date is a bit severe. --Robertiki (talk) 03:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Yleisradio (YLE) , Finnish state owned TV Channel, Areva-Siemens is constructing the plant unit as fixed-price contract and it was originally schedule to be completed by 2009. In February 2014 recent unofficial estimates were no earlier than 2016. In my opinion YLE should be neutral party.  Watti Renew (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olkiluoto 3 construction timing 

message: Recent news (2014) have pointed out that much of the earth warming by CO2 can be detected via warming of the oceans and seas. As I understood, in Finland and by IEA nuclear power is claimed to be wasteless. I have also read claims that the complete life cycle of the nuclear energy produce significantly CO2. Please give reliable references. The Swedish Professionals have published data that the nuclear power plants do warm the waters significantly. Please explain what difference it makes if we warm the earth by CO2 or by nuclear plant? Why this is not included in the climate change negotiations? Watti Renew (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is easily understood by looking at the relative differences in energy input by the sun and what's produced for human activity. Total energy supply 2017 was 162,494 TWh ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_supply_and_consumption#Total_Energy_Supply ), this also happens to be about the continously input from the sun, ~170,000 TW. Ie. in one hour the sun radiates us with the same energy as we produce in a whole year. Just for comparison: if we increase our absorbtion of energy from the sun by one percentagepoint, ie, absorb another 17,000 TW, that's  149,000,000 TWh in a year, or a thousand times our total energy production. That 30% of nuclear energy output is wasted into the cooling water is of no effect, it's a drop in the ocean. Thulle (talk) 14:08, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Climate change]] 

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