Talk:Market capitalization

message: The first paragraph here appears to be a rant against the concept of market cap.  It does have limited use, it is true. but that doesn't justify what is written here.  Morwen - Talk 16:16, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Rant

message: That analysis is really struggling to grasp the concept. A share in a company is just a claim on future cash flow, nothing else. If there is anticipation of future cash flow the stock will be priced after that. The only thing a shareholder is interested in is return in his investment in form of money from a money generating firm. There are no cheap or expensive stocks, there's just anticipated growth in future cash flow to shareholders. When anticipation falls true new estimates will be set and the price will increase, which is the primary source of return on investment. Second is a part of positive cash flow in form of dividend.--Jerryseinfeld 07:16, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analysis 

message: I made some changes to this article before learning the proper etiquette, but I was so moved to fix things that I got ahead of myself.   Apologies for stepping on toes.
In essence, it is the price one must pay to buy an entire company (putting aside that trying to buy an entire company off the market would cause immense price distortions, and takeovers are almost always at more than market price).
This is wrong.  The price to buy an entire company is either enterprise value, which includes a firm's debt and cash, or, if the intention is to own 100% of a company's equity, equity value, which is a fully-diluted measure that incorporates stock options and convertible securities.   Also, the takeover concept in general does nothing but confuse the definition of market capitalization. I deleted the buyout/takeover section further down the page for the same reason.
I simplified the Valuation section because it included some random speculation about why a stock price may be what it is which didn't seem relevant or credible.  What is a "high" market capitalization?  I think it is relevant to mention that market cap almost always exceeds book value because it highlights the difference between the accounting definition of shareholder's equity and market capitalization.   But to judge a market cap as "high" is totally subjective and the reasons given amount to even more subjectivity.
The Time Horizons section didn't seem to be related whatsoever.
mullacc 01:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: I'd like to merge the Small-cap, Large-cap, and Mid-cap topics here... specifically, into the "Categorization of companies by market cap" section. What do ya'll think? Mikeblas 20:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea. -Grick(talk to me!) 20:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I did the merge, keeping the numbers that were already there. User:24.176.75.203, I see that you've changed the numbers. Do you want to cite a source, or should we make a table since there are so many different definitions? It appears to be brokerage-specific. Do you disagree that many investors use the Russel indexes to define the categories?  -- Mikeblas 10:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Small-cap, Large-cap, and Mid-cap here 

message: I have worked incredibly hard both within the industry and out to come up with a set definition for market caps. I did come up with the numbers through widespread use. I would appreciate it if the links to references were not deleted in the future.
Thanks
Hansfret
I think it would be really good to have a graph or chart of the distribution of nano, micro, small, mid, and large-cap stocks. That way people can see intuitively how the distribution of the market looks. We can include percentages as well. for a quick screen of everything, check out: . You can go quickly through the pages by editting the last number in the link, which shows which number stock in the market cap sort you are on. By jumping around on the pages, you can easily figure out how much are in each category. --68.239.240.144 02:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graph/Chart 

message: Should the less common "mega-cap" or "mega cap" (>$200B) be added?  Investopedia defines it and there's over 100k hits on Google for it. --Georgeryp (talk) 17:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega-cap 

message: Can someone help find any references for what these numbers mean relative to each other?
For instance, Microsoft shows Market cap about 4x higher than Revenue, but HP shows market cap BELOW revenue.  Should it be measured against Revenue, Operating expenses or what? (Using the Corporate Infobox numbers as reference...)Mjquin_id (talk) 02:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasonable? 

message: The second section:
Cap is short for capitalization, a measure by which we can classify a company's size.
Was this copied from somewhere?
Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with Wikipedia is that one never knows. Was it here first, then spammed onto many other sites automatically? Or did someone copy it from somewhere else? Running the text through a plagiarism detector (http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism.checker/) indicates that yes, it is "possible plagiarism." But it doesn't say whether it's the chicken or the egg. In any case, the writing needed improving so I did that and we're fine. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 06:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "we" 

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message: The article should specify the creation of the concept, and (if separate) its current name.  I could not find this in a quick search.  I don't remember hearing the term more than ~25 years ago.  Thank you.  StarryEye (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who began "Market Capitalization"? When? 

message: Re: introduction: If net worth is defined as assets minus liabilities, and if, as in the tables provided by the Federal Reserve, the market value of the outstanding shares is treated as part of the liabilities, then rising share values result in a diminution of net worth. In fact, since the 1990s net worth is usually negative for nonfinancial corporations. --Alex1011 (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Net worth 

message: Greetings Wikipedians! Looks like this talk page has seen no activity (except bots) for 10 years. Now, as to the edits I made yesterday: in my humble opinion, it's not a good idea to rely solely on Investopedia for citations. (I explain why on the WikiProject Finance & Investment). The book I've cited was co-authored by a Duke University prof and president of the American Finance Association. Adding academic citations strengthens the article and builds confidence. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 10:39, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Inline citations to textbook