Talk:Bangor, Maine

message: Even as an 8-year-old kid who loved Bangor (I was born and grew up there) I could never believe that ridiculous story about the guy whistling some hymn while he's in a office dedicated to naming the settlement.  The bureaucrat says: "What's that?" "Bangor." "Oh, okay.  See ya later."  So the first guy then walks off without bothering to tell the official what the name is supposed to be?  Or wondering why the guy doesn't ask him what it's supposed to called?
Total bullshit.  Let's ask Stephen King -- he's another writer: does this sound plausible enough to put into any of his stories?  Hayford Peirce 30 June 2005 04:30 (UTC)
:I've lived all my life in Bangor, and I agree with you--but the article does note the story as being "apocryphal," which means "probably not true." Here's my theory: I actually heard the settlers wanted the town to be called Sunbury, so I think when the minister went to Boston, he merely chose Bangor as the name instead, in honor of his favorite hymn... and then made up some silly story to cover his, ahem, "mistake." And since we'll never know the answer to this, asking Stephen King merely because he's a writer isn't going to answer it for us. Indy 23:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was being, shall we say, sardonic about asking Stephen King.... Hayford Peirce 19:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah. My apologies. Hard to tell when someone's being sardonic when reading instead of hearing. Indy 00:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Having been born in Belfast, and having lived in Bangor, Northern Ireland for many years, I counted the number of towns in North America with these names. This was a few years ago now, but I seem to remember there having been something like 13 towns in the USA called Bangor, and about 6 towns called Belfast. With the large number of Scots-Irish and Irish-Americans in the USA, would it be surprising if this town wasn't named after the town of Bangor located in Northern Ireland? The only tune I can think of that mentions Bangor refers to the town in Wales. Either way, perhaps one of these towns deserves mention in the article. --Mal 15:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming Bangor

message: As I write this (April 3, 2006 8:55pm) I am in a lively discussion with a Bangor, Maine resident and writer of the official Bangor website who takes issue with the accuracy of Wikipedia in general and the Bangor, Maine and Bangor Area Transit articles in particular. He is definitely anti-wiki. I as a avid reader and contributor is of course pro Wiki. Read and decide for yourself.
Sorry for the "longnormous" link, but I don't know how to shorten it. The discussion was in the alt.tv.lost newsgroup and the relevant points begins with Hunter, which is me lamenting about an error I made in regards to when the new Ben Franklin $100 dollar bills debuted. It begins with reply no. 7 in the google group alt.tv.lost and I say:
  
"Sigh. Never mind. I finally did what I should had done in the first 
place and looked it up. The large portrait Ben Franklin $100 bill was 
introduced in 1996. Oh well. Note to self: ALWAS consult Wikipedia 
before posting"
Then the ant-Wiki guy, Ryan Robbins jumps in.
Enjoy. I hope I acquitted myself and wiki well. The discussion is still going on as I write this 
 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.lost/browse_frm/thread/8cf90c00dc54519d/564ff59b9cff9c7f?lnk=st&q=buffhunter%40my-deja.com&rnum=2&hl=en#564ff59b9cff9c7f
.Hunter2005 00:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read all of that. Hilarious!! I know of this guy, as I am from Bangor, and frankly his childish arguments are embarrassing. He does seem to be nothing more than anti-Wiki--probably watched too many Siegenthaler media interviews. Anyway, the whole point behind Wikipedia is that it's a self-correcting system; the various users work to constantly improve and correct. That's why there are external links all over the place--to support what's there. The BIG QUESTION, of course, is why this guy didn't merely correct the inaccuracies. Apparently he more enjoys crapping on Wikipedia and those who support it, and whining about inaccuracies. I'm sure, as others like him do, he'd argue that he doesn't want any part of such a bad thing... but taking part and correcting errors makes it a better thing, so that's a circular argument. I just realized I'm rambling, so I'll shut up now. Indy 00:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, you make some good points, which ought to be brought up from time to time when the frustration level of dealing with idiots all the time becomes too much.  A lot of these people end up being identified as trolls, but sometimes it takes a lot of time and wasted effort, as the worse the troll, the most intelligent he/she is in dragging people into their trollish nonsense.... Hayford Peirce 03:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: As far as I knowk Ryan Robbins's website is not the official Bangor website (unless he himself has given it the "official" designation.  His website has some good information, but not all of it is up to date or 100% accurate.  He also does not cite any sources of information in his Bangor In Focus articles, so it is difficult to take him seriously.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.222.206.50 (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Wiki accurate? Newsgroup discussion.

message: I think the historical pictures used in the entry aren't the best choice for representing modern day Bangor. I think we should use modern pictures in the majority of the entry, and save the historical pictures for the "history" part of the entry, or for the bangor historical society. What follows are are my reasons why each picture should be changed, along with a suggestion of what should replace it.
# "Central Park circa 1910" What is pictured here is now a small set of parking spaces next to city hall. There is no park there to take a picture of anymore. Further more, that picture is in the "media" part of the entry. Would it not make more sense to have a picture of "WLBZ", or perhaps even the "Bangor Daily News" office buildings in that spot?
# "Old Post Office circa 1910" This building doesn't exist anymore either, and hasn't since 1911. Why on earth do we have this image representing the city when this building hasn't existed in the city for over 90 years? Why not instead have a picture of the current Downtown area? A picture such as the fountian in front of the wig and couriour. 
# "Pickering Square circa 1910" Anyone who may view this website, and see's this picture will be quite shocked by the modern version of Pickering Square. Picking square is now a parking garage, a bus station, and a local hang out for hoodlums.  I feel a modern day picture of main street would fit better here. 
# "Post Office and Peirce Memorial circa 1945" I have no objection to this picture other than it is outdated. The building pictured is now City Hall and not the post office.  I feel that A more modern picture of the Memorial with the Bangor Public Library behind it would be more suited to being the first picture in the "cultural" section of the entry. 
# "Chapin Park circa 1906 & Park Street circa 1910" these pictures while very nice have both been put in the "sports and  recreation" section of the entry. Neither of these locations are good representations of the modern day "sports and recreation" that occurs in bangor. I feel some more modern pictures of the 13th  street stadium, park, andwater park be more suited for this section. 
# "Penobscot County Courthouse in 1999, Hammond Street" This is a very nice picture. It's modern, it's clear, but why is it in the "Famous Bangorians" section of the website? Would it not make more sense to have a picture of Stephen King's house instead? Or perhaps maybe just a picture of the Hannibal Hamlin statue downtown? 
Now don't get me wrong here i'm all for history and preserving it. But this is wiki, not the "Bangor Historical Society." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.52.28.34 (talk) 16:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Back on Wikipedia after a long break, and noticed that the picture I took of the Courthouse, which is mentioned above, was removed.  How is this photo inappropriate for this article?  Maybe its placement within the article was off, but it seems odd to remove it entirely.  This is especially so as it is not a historical photo, but rather a non-copyrighted modern one, and there are several otjer photos of this ilk in the article.  Maybe I'm just sensitive because I took it, but I'm curious for the rationale.  Friejose 17:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objections to the photographs used in the entry. 

message: A long article in yesterday's New York Times about the salmon fishing in the Penobscot jogged my memory about the old-time Bangor salmon pool, which, as I recall, was just below the dam.  Beginning in 1912, the first salmon caught every year went to the President in Washington. I'm too lazy to do it myself, but there's lotsa info available on the Net for someone to put in a (small) paragraph about this. Hayford Peirce 05:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bangor Salmon Pool

message: As far as I've seen in other articles, Tabitha King's name has always been without Spruce.  Why is it hyphenated here? Prometheus-X303- 15:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabitha King or Spruce-King? 

message: I noticed it has the Mayor's term ending in 2006.  As it is now 2007 it would be good to get the new Mayor in there.  I'd do it, but I don't live in Bangor anymore.
I also played with some pictures - I've done some photography work on Bangor and thought I'd add some of the nice shots I took here.  I didn't want to totally grab all the photo spots, so I left several of them.  Just thought it might dress up the article a bit! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GambitMG (talk • contribs) 23:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs some updating 

message: I'm thinking of deleting bangorme.com from the external link list. It seems to be just a news feed and lots of ads and doesn't seem to add much of value. Any objections? Webquest 04:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link 

message: Paul Wall was born in Bangor?  I have not been able to verify this; it seems that several sites list his origin as Houston, Texas.  I have not found any mention of Bangor anywhere else.  Does anyone have a source for this? Spacemanspif 05:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? Accuracy? Paul Wall?

message: As to the official name of the third bridge:  When I was a kid in Bangor (1941-1960), there were two bridges across the Penobscot.  The one on the north was the railroad bridge.  It still stands and still carries the railroad from Bangor to Ellsworth and beyond with a branch south to Bucksport.  Immediately south of it was a highway bridge of similar steel girder truss construction, with a steel grate roadbed to allow snow to fall through.  It carried US Rte 1A, and we always called it the Bangor-Brewer Bridge.  The steel truss bridge was replaced with a realigned concrete bridge, I think in the 1990's.  The Joshua Chamberlain Bridge was open for several years before I left -- I think it opened about 1956. 68.1.43.137 21:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources / Accuracy (Never Heard of Paul Wall) 

message: Reading the Wiki Page on Bangor, ME, I noticed one phrase which seems to have two buildings confused.  In the Culture heading, there is a reference to the Bangor Public Library, which has since become the City Hall.  The article is correct that the Library is next to the Pierce Memorial.  It is in fact the next building to your left (northwest) when facing the Pierce Memorial, and is still the Bangor Public Library.  It has been much enlarged by additions added to the back of the building as I knew it in the 1960s.  The next building to the right when facing the Pierce Memorial (southeast) was the US Post Office in the 1960s.  My father worked there for many years.  The Post Office has been moved to a site further north.  The old Post Office at 73 Harlow St, SE of the Pierce Memorial, is the current city hall.  City Hall moved there from the corner of Hammond and Columbia Streets.  Bill Blinn 68.1.43.137 21:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the Peirce Memorial. Trust me. Hayford Peirce (talk) 19:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of City Hall and Bangor Public Library  (In the ''Culture'' section of the Bangor page) 

message: This statue is a Bangor icon.  There needs to be a picture of it.--Dj245 (talk) 01:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since it's an open project feel free to add one! Wikimedia Commons might be a place to start, otherwise you can upload licensed images yourself. ColdmachineTalk 16:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is -- it's over on Paul Bunyan :-)--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 19:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Bunyan Statue 

message: Can we tone down the infodumps a bit? Not every person who lived in or passed through Bangor and can be found in a RS should be mentioned. Thanks.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 20:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proliferation of redlinks 

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message: It would be useful if editors with local knowledge could add information regarding the correct pronunciation of the name "Bangor," possibly including an IPA transcription.  Thanks, Baileypalblue (talk) 01:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't have IPA handy, but it's BANG-gore.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 06:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article incorrectly says locals pronounce it "bang-gore" while those from away pronounce it "banger". Correctly, it should read that locals pronounce it "banger" whilst the correct pronounciation is "bang-gore"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.72.19 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

text: As a native, born and raised, I can assure you that we can identify non-natives that pronounce it "banger". A banger is a hammer. A banger is an English sausage. I am from "BANG-gore". Somebody with a thick Downeast accent might call it "Bang-guh". Having it in there as an alternate pronunciation is as misleading as having Orono, ME, pronounced "oh-ROH-no" (a popular out-of-state faux pas) instead of "OH-rah-no"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpetoh (talk • contribs) 00:15, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this.  I've lived in Bangor for 10 years and work with many who were born and raised here.  They all pronounce it BANG-gore. -Euicho- (talk) 13:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Editor from Portland.  The vowels are FACE-vowel and NORTH-vowel.  Bangor's accent is quite close to ours: FACE is lower than standard American, [ɛ͜ɪ] , and r in NORTH reduces to a vowel: [ɔ͜ɜ].  Many speakers distinguish NORTH and FORCE; the latter is [oɜ] (with hiatus).  In this video, Steven pronounces it [ˈbɛ͜ɪŋgɔ͜ɜ] (typical of a native) [ˈbɛ͜ɪŋɜ] (imitating General American /ˈbe͜ɪŋɚ/) and [ˈbɛ͜ɪŋgoɜ] (hyper-corrected, similar to Gen. American /ˈbe͜ɪŋgoɹ/).  If you don't make the NORTH-FORCE distinction (forth and fourth are homophones) listen close to the rhyming FORCE-vowels in "next door in the book store" [ˈnɛksdoɜ ɪ̃ðʌ̆ ˈbɤkʰstoɜ]. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wASA4JYuSkk?t=1m54s All this probably counts as original research, but I'm changing it anyway. 76.179.26.205 (talk) 18:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Another good video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_q9hAAIS-c 67.253.54.149 (talk) 17:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

text:  +1. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of Bangor 

message: I have reservations about the place of Paul Revere in the account of early history. Please go to user talk: Dumarest for a discussion. --Dumarest (talk) 18:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Revere 

message: I came to this page looking for information on Bangor's climate but could not find any. I know other cities include climate information, could this be done for Bangor? Dgen (talk) 06:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate? 

message: There are many reports that Berlin, New Hampshire was also head of the paper industry of the world. Should this article state that "Bangor was one of the lead paper makers of New England?" --Russianamerican1 (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lumber capital? 

message: Bangor is also the county seat of County Down, Northern Ireland, about 12 miles down Belfast Lough (loch in Scotland), from Belfast itself. I've often wondered if Bangor was settled by one or more people from northeast Ireland (as it was back then before the island was partitioned into Northern Ireland (the UK bit) and the Republic of Ireland (the part that people mean when they say 'Ireland'. I spent many happy hours there as a child and my most recent visit was in 2002.
Another source mentions a man called Ingram as an early settler and that's a typical Anglo-Irish name so . . . 
There's also a Bangor, Wales and, as other editors note, Bangors elsewhere too.
Carledgar (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Copied into chrono order. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming Bangor redux 

message: I've added some links to archives at the Bangor Daily News for pre-existing claims that were uncited. I was a former employee of the Bangor Daily News from 2008-2010. I've tried to include some Press Herald resources as well, but the BDN archives are online, which makes it useful for this kind of thing. Just wanted to go transparent. Owlsmcgee (talk) 04:23, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: BDN COI Disclosure

message: There's a picture of the "old" auditorium in the article. I no longer live in Bangor, Maine, but understand that the building pictured has been torn down. Even if that is not true, it has been replaced with the Cross Insurance Center: http://www.crossinsurancecenter.com/page/958/home
The former Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland, Maine, is now the Cross Insurance Arena: http://www.crossarenaportland.com/
In other words, Cross Insurance sponsors the CENTER in Bangor and the ARENA in Portland.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5eNzzz (talk • contribs) 20:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is correct that the V-shaped Bangor Auditorium no longer stands, and has been replaced by the Cross Insurance Center. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 03:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: removed it --Cornellier (talk) 04:03, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  BANGOR AUDITORIUM 

message: This is only an opinion written by a newspaper reader, who apparently doesn't have any credentials as an expert in a related field, so we cannot use this as a source, but it is clearly based on fairly detailed knowledge and could be used to contact the local library or other experts to get a reliable published source. --Espoo (talk) 12:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  origin of the name 

message: Substituted at 08:56, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I've heard there's some great fucking trains in Bangor. Is that notable? Are there actually model train conventions worth noting or is that fiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.133.12.250 (talk) 18:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Did Ricky from Trailer Park Boys write this? Jesus Murphey!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1517:82FE:0:4108:3E54:5E0A (talk) 04:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Trains

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message: 's comment for this revision states that  is being "reverted" per WP:CIR. This is clearly not a "revert" in the usual sense in WP, where a recent change is backed out. I have not touched that part of Bangor, Maine in 4-5 years. Does this concern a very old edit, and if so, which one? Per WP:GOODFAITH what is the reason for tagging this as WP:CIR? --Cornellier (talk) 03:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assume good faith 

message: There should be disambiguation between this page and Bangor, Gwynedd, UK.
(Or perhaps the new format now hides the disambiguation.) 216.106.104.39 (talk) 22:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation (Bangor, UK) 

message: Can we talk about how the real estate industry has appointed themselves as the gatekeepers of Bangor, doing everything they can to keep out people that are not in political alignment with Bangor’s conservative right wing agenda?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.68.66.100 (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Real estate industry