Talk:Lon Horiuchi

message: I see no Wikipedia article suggesting that noindex should be used for controversial articles, Wikipedia:NOINDEX_of_noticeboards not withstanding.
Also, this page is the top google hit for a search on Lon Horiuchi even today, so the stated reason for the edit seems ineffective.
TJIC (talk) 18:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  noindex 

message: What exactly IS the cause for deletion for this article?  you can't just slap on a "deletion" box without giving a reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.106.151 (talk) 
:Well, you could take the time to read the deletion notice, which links to the reasoning and the deletion discussion. For your convenience, the rationale and ensuing discussion can be found here. MastCell Talk 04:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  deletion question 

message: I have removed a couple sentences from the lede per WP:BLP. I will remove the other unsourced sentence unless a reference to a reliable published source can be provided.  Self-published websites are not reliable sources; professional media are sufficient. — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Similarly, per WP:BLP, court transcripts need to be used carefully. It's not OK to pull items out of court transcripts and highlight them unless those items have been highlighted by reliable secondary sources. I've pared back the court-transcript citations - in any case, the article should be based on what reliable secondary sources have to say, not on editorial selections from lengthy court transcripts. MastCell Talk 18:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd love to see a neutral summary of the court transcripts, but agree that things like the "pancake" scene are just bizarre and out of place. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  20:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

text: The fact that Outpost of Freedom hates Horiuchi is not enough reason to dispute using them as a reference for the fact he appeared in the magazine. If you can add better context, by all means please do so - but don't simply delete a neutral  fact based on the fact its reference is not neutral. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  20:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact is not neutral - it invites the reader to speculate on the purpose of his appearance, and is sourced to a clearly partisan site. Moreover, this entire sentence seems to be a trivia item, hardly relevant without further explanation. If you want to include it, we need to explain why he appeared, and have a reliable source. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

text: My improvement to the ref was supposed to be switching to use a direct link to US News. I omitted the author's name by mistake. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Agree with CBM. Why is the mere fact he was in the magazine important? It's not even verifiable. Which issues was he in? Was he clip art, a letter to the editor, advertising? This claim is sub-junk, and totally out of line for a BLP. Cool Hand Luke 02:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact from lede 

message: I've removed two items per WP:BLP. The first is the item on Horiuchi's children and their reported homeschooling. This pretty clearly falls under Wikipedia:Blp#Presumption_in_favor_of_privacy, and additionally seems entirely unrelated to any notability Horiuchi has. It's essentially a throwaway remark in a news article, and we've elevated it to part of the lead. I also removed the item sourced to Outpost of Freedom. The sourcing requirements are fairly strict for biographies of living people, and are laid out in Wikipedia:Blp#Sources. There is no way that Outpost of Freedom qualifies as a usable source for a biography of Horiuchi. MastCell Talk 21:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:BLP]] 

message: This has already been tagged. No source information was given, but it appears to be the same scan supposedly from Soldier of Fortune, thus is not even a reliable photo of him. I'm totally unimpressed with the rationales that were offered. Cool Hand Luke 02:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In any case, we don't use nonfree images of living people for their infobox photos to identify living people. — Carl (CBM · talk) 02:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image to be deleted 

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