Talk:Joe Lieberman/Archive 1

message: I noticed there wasn't much mention on his highly conservative stance on violence in computer/video-games, should this be worked into the article? 05:38, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stance on violent games? 

message: The opening words in Lieberman's article are "Jewish-American"? Whoever inserted this epithet should be ashamed. Do we label Kennedy "Irish-American" or Giuliani "Italian-American" (or either of them "Catholic-American")? As I understand it, second or third-generation Americans are spared these qualifiers.
:: Hes Jewish, hes American, therefore there is nothing wrong with saying "Jewish-American". Although this article has a tad to much on him being Jewish, its not like hes an Orthodox Jew, if he was Orthodox it would be fair to mention it, hes Reform, so hes basically as Jewish as Vladimir Putin.
:::: First of all, Senator Lieberman *is* an Orthodox Jew, and proudly identifies himself as such, as he did during the 2000 presidential campaign. Secondly, Jews in America do not identify themself as "Jewish-Americans", with the possible exception of the most wishy-washy Reform Jewish. I have heard plenty of people use the terms "Jewish person" and "Jewish-American" because they think the very *word* Jew is an insult. The word Jew is not an insult - is is a perfectly valid way to describe someone who was either born Jewish, or has converted to Judaism. Nobody is doing Jews any favors by avoiding the word Jew. So when is the word an insult, I hear you ask? When it's used in obviously derogatory concepts, like as a verb ("he jewed me" connoting avarice) or with a modifying word ("a dirty Jew", "a cheap Jew", etc. etc.). Oversensitive, nervous gentile liberals, relax: it's perfectly alright to call a Jew a Jew.
Thanks to the June 12 "vandalism removal" the first paragraph of the article now makes no sense.
:: Don't worry. I've reverted it back. marbeh raglaim 02:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Jewish American"

message: I deleted the following sentence:
:Satirical writer Robert Lanham coined Lieberal, based on Lieberman's name and beliefs, as a term for conservative Democrats.
I've never heard of Lanham or "lieberal" (Lanham's Wikipedia entry looks suspiciously like a vanity entry, see 69.203.207.56 contributions), and a Google search shows that this is not a common term by any stretch of the imagination. -- FRCP11 14:55, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lieberal" 

message: I really don't get why the second paragraph in this section is there. It doesn't seem to fit to me and it is redundant from the introduction of the article.Elipongo 02:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gang of 14

message: I suggest we merge the Joementum article in to this article - considering it doesn't really give enough information to warrent it's own page on Wikipedia. I even suggest we cut it down to an external link in the presidential campaign category. --Toddbloom7 13:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: whoa, no so fast Todd.  Joementum is here to say if I do say so myself.  --Ryan Utt 02:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "[[Joementum]]" article

message: It's valid for the trivia section. Senator Joseph Lieberman does bear what many feel to be an incredible resemblence to the young Senator (and later Emperor) Palpatine from Star Wars. I challenge anyone reading this to look it up for themselves and deny it. Although George Lucas may have casted Ian McDiarmid in the role of the Palpatine character prior to Liebermans rise to the national stage, the resemblence is definitely worthy of mention.  I would appreciate it if certain Wikipedia members would stop constantly deleting it, just because its true and it strikes a nerve with them.
I must agree with the aforementioned. I have taken the liberty of reposting the claim, and also providing what i feel to be unassailable proof of the resemblence. Some have said that this is a frivolous thing to include on an encycolopedic website. I would agree if the fact was posted anywhere else but the trivia section. Trivia, by its very definiton is trvial or fivolous knowledge. Bearing that in mind, I find the case against the Lieberman Palpatine resemblence to be short-sighted.
.....AND perhaps even partisan?
::I would suggest you pay better attention to the Wikipedia policy on original research. marbeh raglaim 12:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lieberman resemblence to Senator Palpatine 

message: I noticed that Lieberman's religion was listed under "political views." Religion is not a political view--unless it can be related to his politics. That's why I stuck a quote into that section, where Lieberman calls for a "a constitutional place for faith in our public life."
 marbeh raglaim 14:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Constitutional place for faith in our public life" 

message: I took the following out of the trivia:
*Because of his conservative views, Lieberman has often been described by critics as a DINO, and criticized for his willingness to take on his own party when he views them as wrong. However, He has consistently received a high rating from the Americans for Democratic Action and a low rating from the American Conservative Union. 
I placed the essential information in the main section. Trivia should be reserved for tidbits like "Lieberman is 5 feet 8 inches tall" or "George H.W. Bush once banned broccoli from the White House." Things that aren't of great importance, but which might be of interest to...well, the sorts of people who like to collect trivia. Lieberman's political orientation is far too relevant to belong in the trivia section. marbeh raglaim 07:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging trivia with main section 

message: Substituted at 20:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment