Talk:Queen's Park F.C.

message: Changes have been made to the early section of the QP page to bring it in line with the club entry in the 'Combination Game' page  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.5.112 (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's true.  --Guinnog 04:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, they own the ground - Queen's Park were a massive team at that time. They used to own a ground that could hold four times the current capacity. Queen's Park and the Scotland team go hand in hand.  --Revolt (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes to text

message: I've removed the first sentence from the history section because it is not accurate. The Sheffield Rules of 1862 already included both crossbars and half time and free kicks were introduced to the code in 1866 or before. This all pre-dates the creation of Queens Park. josh (talk) 19:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Resposible for..." 

message: "Queen's Park also played in the English Leagues in the late 19th century and even came close to winning the league, when their kit was green for a short time as the owner at the time believed it would bring them luck." - this is simply not true, QP never played in the English league.  They did however play in the English FA Cup with some distinction..... ChrisTheDude 11:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English leagues

message: I've added a recentism tag to the History section as the vast majority of this covers just the 21st century. Dancarney 16:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism 

message: Does anybody know why Queen's Park kept withdrawing from the 'English' FA Cup in the years before they made their first final? Was it just too difficult to arrange travel, did the SFA put pressure on them to withdraw or did the matches keep clashing with Scottish Cup ties? And why did the FA keep allowing them back in each year, even giving them a bye to the semis on one occasion?
If anyone knows please edit this page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scottish_football_clubs_in_the_FA_Cup... accordingly. Cheers Villafancd (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  QP Cup withdrawals? 

message: scott black ues to play for Stranraer he left becaues fans the Stair Park club were shouting at him. he left for Auchinleck Talbot. he went there to win the scottish cup with them and there did. He went to Queens park.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.96.35 (talk) 13:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  scott black  Goalkeeper  

message: I think that is not Hampden Park the oldest ground still in use today.
The City Ground, Nottingham Forest's stadium was inauguraded in 1897, still in use yet.. before that Hampden Park.  Excuse my english. Thank you.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.104.170.146 (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Maidenhead United's York Road, 1871 Cls14 (talk) 14:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The oldest ground still in use of the world.. 

message: The current reference to the Graphic newspaper is deeply flawed to say the least. It was a weekly newspaper, not a daily, which explains the delay in publication. To suggest that it cannot be considered contemporary is staggering - coming as it did only two weeks, and only the second possible date for publication, after the actual game had taken place. The article is written as a contemporary first hand account. The suggestion that the writer could not have been at the game is without foundation (he does not make any reference to this in the article) and there was also a sketch artist present at the game who produced the famous series of sketches (specific reference to this is made by the writer in the article). The Graphic's account, if you read the full article, gives across important information relating to the game which is not covered in the other journals. The other journals of course do not give reference to the Scots being 'adepts at passing'. If the Graphic writer had based the article purely on other reports, which don't use this specific term, why did he use it? The argument currently being put forward is that the other papers don't specifically refer to a 'passing' game (so, by implication, it didn't happen) but this paper, which mentions a passing game, could not have been present, even though there is evidence in the article that they were present! Hardly the foundation of an objective take on the history of the club! More sinisterly it looks like an attempt to play down the club's contribution, and if that is the case then that is truly sad. 
From a less subjective view point, the references to 'team work' and 'working well together' which are to be found in the other journals complement the reference to passing which is conveyed in the Graphic and provide compelling evidence for the club's pioneering role in the development of the passing game. This would be a fairer take on the club's achievements.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.76.124.220 (talk) 14:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Graphic Newspaper

message: Richard Robinson in his history of the club explains the situation regarding crossbars...
The introduction of the cross-bar into the rules of the Association is due to the initiative of the Queen's Park, though it was not at the time, nor until some years later, made obligatory. Prior to this, however, the Sheffield Association, founded 1867, which had then a set of rules of its own, abolished the tape, and made the bar compulsory.
The crossbar, therefore, first appears in the Sheffield Rules code and did not feature in the Association code until 1875 when Queen's Park tabled their motion at a meeting of the Football Association. Sheffield should be given due credit, but is it fair to say that while Queen's did not invent the cross bar the club was responsible for it's introduction into Association football?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.76.124.220 (talk) 10:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Crossbars

message: Author, Richard Saunders, quoting from contemporary sources, conveys a passing game being played by Queen's Park in the FA Cup semi final match of 1872 (Beastly Fury, London, 2009, P66)
'They dribble little and usually convey the ball by a series of long kicks, combined with a judicious plan of passing on', wrote The Field. The Glasgow Herald noticed the same phenomenon. 'The play of the Glasgow 11 was most creditable, as their forwards worked well together, and their backs kicked with great accuracy. On the other hand, the Wanderers dribbled and played skilfully....but collectively they hardly showed so well as their antagonists,' it wrote.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.76.124.220 (talk) 11:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Queen's v Wanderers, 1872

message: The text currently states that the two clubs first competed in March 1879, and yet they contested the final of the 1876/77 Glasgow Charity Cup.
The 'Scottish Football Historical Archive' site states that this was played on 28 April 1877.
Worldwide11 (talk) 20:02, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Match Between Queen's Park and Rangers 

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message: As Queen's Park voted to end its amateur status in 2019 I wonder if the article (and :Category:Queen's Park F.C.) should be removed from :Category:Amateur association football teams? My only slight doubt about this is due to the fact that the club held amateur status for 150+ years, and was arguably one of the most famous amateur teams in the world. On the other hand, by being in the category it possibly would imply that it was still an amateur club. I would welcome thoughts on this. Dunarc (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be removed, as it's potentially misleading to keep QPFC in these categories. I thought for a moment we could create a sub-category for clubs that have held and then abandoned amateur status, but the problem is that a lot of clubs would have been amateur. This is particularly true for those founded in the 19th century, before national leagues were established. This discrepancy could look worse in future, as it appears that QPFC are making a serious effort at becoming a competitive team BBC Sport. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 07:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd also go for remove – it obviously doesn't tell the full story of their history, but categories often don't, and there's plenty of reference to the former status in the club article and others, so hopefully anyone interested in that history will be able to find it easily. Crowsus (talk) 09:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks both. I think your arguments are correct and remove probably is the way to go. Dunarc (talk) 23:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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message: Is there a better way of displaying the history section of the article rather than just listing the managers?
Perhaps something similar to the Kilmarnock or Rangers history sections? The Celtic article just has everything under one History sections and that's it. 98AL (talk) 15:24, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there most definitely is. If there's someone in charge for a long time, that can often work as a good way to break it up but it's unnecessary to split it after each manager when they aren't there very long. Feel free to have a go at changing it and improve the article. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  History