Talk:Legion of Merit

message: Ian Smith, the former Rhodesian Prime Minister, is a Grand Commander of the Legion of Merit (GCLM). I've linked it here but it occurs that it may not be the same Legion of Merit. Does anyone know? David | Talk 12:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ian Smith]]

message: Why was he removed?  Is he not considered notable? ScreaminEagle 14:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not particularly. The category for Legion of Merit recipients has something like 400-500 names, all of people considered notable enough to be in wikipedia. Not all deserve a mention in this article. Rodger Simpson, in that regard, is pretty low on the importance scale. Not to mention the editor who added that name has been making bizarre edits for some time, hyping the ship he was once stationed on - you guessed it, the USS Simpson. --Nobunaga24 01:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thank you for the explanation.  It's article lists like these that leave me a bit uncertain as to how notable a wikiperson should be to be included, so I usually just stay away from them as a rule.  Are there any general guidelines that would help folks like myself know who can be appropriately "singled out" for lists like these and who doesn't make the cut? --ScreaminEagle 20:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say for these short lists in the award's main article, I would list (and this is just my rule of thumb) people more well known to the general public. In other words, a famous general, or even an actor who fought in a war, or someone notable for the uniqueness of their award - i.e. he was awarded 48 silver stars in his career (no one ever has been). Simpson meets none of the criteria; additionally (as stated above) the editor contributing that has been making a number of questionable edits - I no longer assume good faith from him ;)--Nobunaga24 00:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rear Admiral Rodger Simpson 

message: In my opinion the heading "Notable Recipients" is redundant and potentially insulting to recipients not listed.  My thinking is that anyone who receives this decoration is obviously notable otherwise he or she would not have received the metal.Kinema 09:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not so sure about that.  My uncle received one, but I doubt anyone here has ever heard of him.  I also doubt he'd cry himself to sleep if you told him he wasn't notable, either.  It's not like the Medal of Honor; just getting one doesn't make you notable, at least not in the eyes of Wikipedia.  If they can't get an article of their own based on what they've done in their lives/careers, they're not notable.  So I think making the distinction is a good one.  It recognizes that many people have received the award, but these are the people who have received it and are also notable for other achievements in their lives.  --ScreaminEagle 16:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Recipients 

message: Should we do a disambig for the political award of similar name and similar appearance? 155.84.57.253 (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Republican Presidential Legion of Merit

message: Is this similar to the Grand Crosses of other orders? Does it come with a breast star and sash? 130.195.5.7 (talk) 01:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for one it's Chief Commander, not Grand Commander, and no, no sash is associated with the LOM.  The award itself is worn on the right chest, if I'm not mistaken.  I don't know of any U.S. awards that are placed on sashes. --ScreaminEagle (talk) 18:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Commander 

message: Can someone ad the late King Olav V of Norway to the list of notable recepiants.:
He receaved the US Legion of Merit award
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olav_V_of_Norway
http://www.kongehuset.no/c29380/artikkel/vis.html?tid=29386
Mortyman (talk) 04:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume he was awarded the Chief Commander Legion of Merit as a head of state rather than in a military function?  --ScreaminEagle (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

text: As a monarch he was C-in-C of the Norwegian Armed Forces. LukGasz (talk) 12:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: King Olav V of Norway

message: I wonder is my las edit good or is the file names bad. If so could some admin delete it and reupload with proper names so there will be no more misunderstandings?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoclorD (talk • contribs) 19:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grafics 

message: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jccvmi99/3737795826/
That's what the above link (and picture) claims. Seems to be correct. The two people would be:
*Cesar de la Fuente, Peruvian War Minister.
*Fernando Melgar, Peruvian Minister of Aviation.
However, I'm not sure what rank of the decoration they got.
Anyway, this is more than anything to serve as a foundation for anyone who is interested in actually looking up the information. Cheers!--MarshalN20 | Talk 20:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peruvian Generals awarded circa 1944 

message: Is the link at the bottom of the article listing the recipients of the LoM supposed to be all-inclusive?  Because it isn't so far.  How does one go about editing the actual list?
Martin Clemens recently issued an open letter to the people of the Solomon Islands where he worked as a Coast Watcher during WWII (http://www.roymorgan.com/news/press-releases/2006/482/). He was awarded the Legion of Merit for his services during the Guadalcanal campaign. A precise of his story is available on the US Marine Raiders page: (http://www.usmarineraiders.org/book1.htm). The list needs to be updated (as per the previous post). (unsigned post)
:The recent removal of all the recipients was probably not the best idea.   It should be restored if possible into its own article as there is a lot of interesting material in that list. -OberRanks (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recipients of Legion of Merit 

message: Washington D.C. on 8 April 1948th  U.S. General A. P. Boling in the name of U.S. President Harry Truman delivered the  U.S. medal  Legion of Merit of the third degree  to Colonel Živan Knezević, Chief of the Military Cabinet of the Government of Slobodan Jovanović in London during the war, in which General Draža Mihailović was a minister of the army, navy and air force.--Свифт (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Officer

message: Hi ... we have a few names listed that both lack refs, and are not blue-links.  I would suggest that they be deleted (or tagged, and then deleted if refs are not provided).--Epeefleche (talk) 04:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-notables? 

message: Current IDF chief of staff Binyamin Gantz was awarded the Legion of Merit today.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.13.100.194 (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  IDF Chief of staff should be added 

message: Noticing that Frank Kelso had more ribbons in the picture than awards mentioned in the article, I set about reconciling them. It seemed at first that the pic has a strange color balance, such that some of the ribbons did not match well against the graphics in the WP articles for those decorations. This seems to be partially true – gold-colored bands show as white in the picture, perhaps because they are partially metallic in real life and more reflective than the ribbon material around them. Make sense?
Others, though, like the Legion of Merit, point out that our article's graphic (:File:Legion of Merit ribbon.svg) may well be wrong, too. Looking at the Institute of Heraldry description, that ribbon is supposed to be crimson. Here are various sources and swatches:
Sample	RGB Hex	H °	S %	L %	Source
      	#DC143C	348    	83 	47 	Crimson (X11, W3C)
      	#F1705C	8      	84 	65 	:File:Admiral Frank Kelso, official military photo.JPEG
      	#C02551	343    	68 	45 	:File:NormanSchwarzkopf.jpg
      	#8D005C	321    	100	28 	:File:Legion of Merit ribbon.svg
      	#CC0098	315    	100	40 	IOH Ribbon index
      	#912849	341    	57 	36 	IOH A&D page
      	#980065	320    	100	30 	IOH LoM page
      	#990066	320    	100	30 	US Army Clothing and Heraldry PSID
      	#91091C	352    	88 	30 	A thread mfr
      	#AC0150	332    	99 	34 	This converter
      	#A8034F	332    	96 	34 	Another conversion of PMS 220
The IoH should be the authoritative source, but it's not even self-consistent. In comparison to all the others, the Kelso pic appears to be hue-shifted towards orange/yellow ("east"; away from violet/blue) in addition to being over-exposed, so it's hard to read true colors from it.
Any comments? Are the physical ribbons consistently colored? Is it possible to get a correct color for them (i.e. all awards) somehow/somewhere? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:03, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Official government spec sheets: .  EricSerge (talk) 14:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Right – it confirms Crimson with "cable number HM 67112", just like the last few links above. The problem is figuring out what color that actually is, as those various sources conflict as shown. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 13:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Have a look too at :File:Ehud Barak with Legion of Merit cropped.jpg. I would not describe that color as crimson. Is it possible the color has not always been interpreted consistently, even among official sources? Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:17, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Part of the issue is getting the moire pattern and how it affects color in different lighting situations.  What about this .  EricSerge (talk) 18:29, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color 

message: Is there a central list of recipients? Gbawden (talk) 10:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recipients database 

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message: From the article:
Authority to award the Legion of Merit is reserved for general officers and flag officers in pay grade O-9 (e.g., Lieutenant General and Vice Admiral) and above
Lieutenant General's and Vice Admiral's are O-8 - not O-9... TerraFrost (talk) 05:36, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  authority to award?