Talk:List of Doctor Who episodes (2005–present)/Archive 4

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
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====Survey - in opposition to the move====
* Oppose - this article doesn't list all the episodes, so list of Doctor Who episodes would be incorrect.  Percy Snoodle 19:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: * Oppose - this article doesn't list all the episodes, so list of Doctor Who episodes would be incorrect.  Percy Snoodle 19:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

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:Suggestion I don't support a move to 'List of Doctor Who episodes' because most of the articles we have are about serials not individual episodes. I do however support the article being moved to 'List of Doctor Who episodes and serials' or 'List of Doctor Who televised stories' as both would be more inclusive sounding than the article name as it currently stands. --GracieLizzie 21:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggestion I would concur that a heading that is more inclusive would be in order. Episodes may be more appropriate for the current series, but Serials may apply more the the older shows (although Hartnell's term can be a completely different duck, since they were all supposed to blend together). --Thergomy 00:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

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#Oppose - If they where paper.. maybe.. but they're not. Matthew 16:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: #Oppose - If they where paper.. maybe.. but they're not. Matthew 16:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

message: According to The Telegraph's interview with RTD, series four has been commissioned, but RTD won't be masterminding it. How would this be added to the article?--Rambutan (talk) 08:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought the news was that RTD was hinting he might stand-down after series 4 ends? --GracieLizzie 16:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is actually quite vague on what RTD's future role is.  I think that GracieLizzie's reading is the most likely, but we can't really say anything on Wikipedia about Davies' future based on that article.  —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. The Telegraph is a very trustworthy newspaper in the UK, so we can believe them about the fourth series being commissioned, but the RTD news is just too vague for comment at the moment. - NP Chilla 08:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series Four greenlighted 

message: Should we make an article Episode three (Doctor Who 2007), since we already know quite a lot and it'll only be a couple of weeks until we know the title? We did this with the Cyberman story last year, I believe.--Rambutan (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, this is an unpopular thought since Wikipedia has to be definite fact, although I do support your thoughts, we no enough that even if we couldn't give it a definite name we could for now call it 'series 3, episode 3'. Although I do think it would just get deleted i'd would agree with you on making this move.--Wiggstar69 22:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode three placeholder? 

message: I hope that people don't mind that I deleted the index of archived topics that used to be at the top of the page; that was something that used to be recommended at WP:ARCHIVE, but seems to have fallen out of favour.  It's time-consuming to do, and it's not that difficult for people to click on the archive links and look at the TOC.  If anyone misses the index, they can retrieve it from the page history and make one up for the newly created Archive 3. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive 

message: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2007/03/22/41793.shtml It's official, guys - where should we put this new info? - NP Chilla 23:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Stick a sentence with a ref in the lead in section I'd say. --GracieLizzie 00:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 4 confirmed. 

message: I hope no-one minds, but as I requested semi-protection due to people adding rumoured titles. I've asked for unprotection now that they're all confirmed. --GracieLizzie 15:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, thats fine. --Wiggstar69 15:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I've requested unprotection as we now know all the episode titles 

message: Isn't this page of format? Most pages like this are called episode lists or lists of media. --Seth Turner 22:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off format? 

message: There is discussion at WP:AN/I#Fancruft_issue_again, and an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kept Man that is attempting to create a precedent disallowing individual episodes. Matthew 18:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempt to create precedent disallowing individual episodes 

message: In the introduction of the page it says that:
"During the early seasons of the programme most serials are linked together, one usually leading directly into the next — although there are some breaks, such as between the second season finale, The Time Meddler, and the third season premiere, Galaxy 4."
but it doesn't say when this stopped.  Should we not also put in information about when the linking stopped?
StuartDD 19:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linked serials 

message: I was wondering whether we should change the order of the atricle so that "Other stories" follows on from the list of serials, and Production plans after that.  It seems to make sense that we list all stories first, before going onto other sections.  The current order places production plans between the list and "oher stories".
StuartDD 20:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  production plans after "other stories"? 

message: In the David Tennant section, here, there are two references for Doctor who:children in need and the Christmas Invasion - but they are missing (i.e the links don't go to anywhere).  Does anyone know how to fix this?
StuartDD 10:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't appear to serve any useful purpose (there are links to the relevant episode articles) so I've removed them for the time being.  Mark H Wilkinson 07:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing references 

message: Someone has tried to start season 4 with this
Series 4 (2008)
|- |colspan=7| |172 |"Price Of Paradise" |4.1 |1 episode |James Strong |James Hawes |29 March 2008 |- |173 |"March Of The Cybermen" |4.2 |2 episodes |Kate Shaw |Euros Lyn |TBA, 2008
Anyone know how to fix this?
StuartDD 14:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. Unsourced speculations shouldn't be there to begin with. --Edokter (Talk) 17:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yet they still keep appearing. Honestly, that "series 4 episode list" is laughable fanwank. Half of the "episode titles" make no sense.81.86.46.234 20:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any way we can stop them being put back? - they seem to keep coming up. StuartDD 20:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's a genuine problem, request the article be protected.  If it's anonymous IP's that are doing it, a period of semi-protection should help.  Mark H Wilkinson 21:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 4 

message: Is season 22 complete?  I count 13 episodes - but according to other things I have read, the BBC dropped the number of episodes to 14 for Trial of a Time Lord.
StuartDD 08:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since each ToaTL episode was shorter than S22, the bit about episodes being dropped may mean overall time instead of episode numbers. The S22 numbers are correct.--OZOO (What?) 10:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 22