Talk:Boole's syllogistic

message: Asit stands, this article is fairly trivial, slightly POV and redundant.  It's not a bad place to start a proper exegesis of Boole;s calculus, so I propose we turn it into a historical article along those lines. ---- Charles Stewart 23:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Future of this article

message: I am developing an article currently under the name Boolean algebra (basic concepts), but this may be a more appropriate place to put that content.  I will try to get opinions of others before moving it here. I would think the history would belong under the article on George Boole, but I have no objection to having a history section added to what I am writing, if it is placed here. StuRat 23:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "This is because Boolean logic is not a very good article. This one is much better, and should replace it. Septentrionalis (User:Pmanderson) 13:54, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I am not sure that I support the move. I don't know much about Boolean algebra. All I said that Boolean algebra (basic concepts) was a rather incoherent thing, and try to fix some of that. Maybe there is some Boolean logic using which one can infer from my edits that I support the move, but that logic is definitely not the 1, 0 logic I am accustomed with. :) Oleg Alexandrov 16:19, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the compliment.  I would like a clarification of your position.  Are you saying you would like to have this material (Boole's syllogistic) restored under the original name of Boolean logic ? If so, what name would you prefer for that article's current content ? StuRat 17:31, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You are welcome. Yes to be more clear, I had forgotten which talk page I was on, so I was complimenting you on the article at Boolean logic. And yes I think that this article "Boole's syllogistic" should probably be moved back. I don't know what the other article should be called but I think it should be probably be called "Boolean algebra (something)". If I had to pick a name now it would be "Boolean algebra (logic)". But like I said above I would like the opinion of a logician like Charles. Paul August ☎ 17:59, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification.  "Boolean algebra (logic)" isn't a bad suggestion, but it's pretty close to "Boolean logic".  Do you think someone looking up "Boolean logic" would rather see the material under Boole's syllogistic than the material currently under Boolean logic ? StuRat 18:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I am not a logician. And I'm not particularly familiar with the history and usage of the term "Boolean logic". As Travator points out above the term may more usually refer to a simplification of Aristotelean syllogistic. As I've said twice before, I would like to know what more knowledgable editors have to say. Paul August ☎ 19:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You could always e-mail Charles. From the very top of this page it seems he's not too impressed by the current Boole's syllogistic article, and of course he may well be right. OTOH from his user page it looks like he's not a hardcore philosophical logician, but at least a borderline mathematical logician. Anyone know where to find a philosophical logician of the old school, or perhaps better, a historian of logic? --Trovatore 19:29, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed replacement for this article (replacement done, see next section) 

message: This article was moved from Boolean logic, and a new article was placed there.  If you want this article restored under Boolean logic, please say so here.  If you want to move it to any other unoccupied name, go ahead and move it, but be sure to update all links to it, as well. StuRat 13:06, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article has been moved 

message: The notice at the top used to say "A very closely related topic is propositional calculus". Not so much. Propositional calculus has no quantifiers, whereas this article is about syllogistic logic of "all" and "some". --Trovatore 18:37, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Charles set me straight on this (or at least convinced me that I don't really know what's going on). I've gone ahead and removed the notice entirely; it didn't seem to serve any useful function. --Trovatore 19:12, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: PC --> FOL