Talk:Prime Minister of Italy

message: Fourth most important state office?  How so?  Obviously the president is "more important" (de jure, if not de facto).  But other than that? john k 16:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just translated it; I don't really know. My guess is the other two would be the presidents of the Senate and the Chamber. "Fourth-most important", behind those two that no one ever pays much attention to, does seem a very peculiar affirmation, but we ought to get some sort of source to cite when explaining the real situation. --Trovatore 16:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

text: So according to Article 86 of the Italian Constitution, it seems that the President of the Senate acts for the President of the Republic when the latter can't, and if that situation looks permanent then it's the President of the Chamber who calls for the election of a new President of the Republic. As far as I can see, the constitution makes no specific mention of an order of importance, but perhaps it's inferred from these provisions. Italian Wikipedia has no descriptive article on either of the chamber presidencies, only lists of the presidents. --Trovatore 16:58, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth most important office?

message: I know that with Italy's proportional/additional member system it is unlikely, but what would happen if the two houses had majorities from different parties/coalitions? Italy is the only country I have heard of where the prime minister needs the confidence of two separate non-figurehead legislative houses. My guess is that a new election would have to be called, and/or some ugly super-coalition government would be formed.  Xyzzyva 00:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It bloody nearly happened this time—not actual opposing majorities in the two chambers, but failure of the coalition that won the Chamber of Deputies to win the Senate as well. I think l'Unione currently has something like a two-vote majority in the Senate; it came down to the seats reserved for expatriates, which split 4-2 in favor of the center-left. This is one of the big reasons Prodi's government is not given a long life expectancy by the handicappers; as someone said, all it takes is for a couple of government senators to get a cold. --Trovatore 17:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes of Confidence 

message: Why is ministers not capitalized? In nearly all sources it is? It is part of a title, and should be capitalized. Carlossuarez46 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The current capitalization is certainly strange.  It should either be "president of the council of ministers" (descriptive) or "President of the Council of Ministers" (title). My guess is that the person who moved it here was inappropriately applying Italian capitalization rules to an English article. --Trovatore 19:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalization

message: Interlang bots frequently make incorrect associations between articles when (as is the current case) one article in some languages corresponds at least roughly to two different articles in other languages. Here the distinction is that in Italian, English, and a few other languages, there's an actual article on the office of prime minister of Italy, in addition to a separate article containing a list of those who have held the office. That's the way it should be in every language, but unfortunately it's not.
We need to make sure this article links to the articles on the office, not the list of officeholders; this is especially important for languages that have both articles. --Trovatore (talk) 08:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please help police interlang links 

message: I ask this on most pages of nation's with parliaments, because it's a very important fact, IMO.  Does Italy's prime minister have to be someone already elected to parliament, or can someone outside the legislature be chosen?  I know in some nation's the prime minister doesn't have to be an existing member of the parliament.  This needs to be made clear in the article either way. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Election of the Prime Minister 

message: Is there not a DPM who is the current acting PM? 82.33.92.245 (talk) 23:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acting 

message: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15713985 DexieBoy (talk) 18:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: New Prime Minister Mario Monti

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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Prime Minister of Italy]] 

message: This is the article about the office of Prime Minister, not the office holders.  These sections should be removed.  They are appropriate at list of Prime Ministers of Italy, but not at this article.
I made this change but was reverted by User:Nick.mon without comment.  At this point we should discuss it. --Trovatore (talk) 15:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, probably you are right, we can insert this timeline in List of Prime Ministers of Italy removing it from this page, but I think that the gallery the photos of the living former PM, that someone removed, should remain also in this page. -- Nick.mon (talk) 16:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, it's better.  I still think the gallery is a little obtrusive, though.  Maybe use smaller thumbnails, and add a little text, so that it's not so blatantly a gallery?  I see this as a "technical/legal" article rather than one about personalities; fundamentally I don't really think it needs pictures at all, but there's room for compromise. --Trovatore (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The gallery with the photos of living former leaders is also used in the pages President of the United States and Prime Minister of the United Kingdom; anyway you are right, maybe it is better to add a little text. -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Timeline" and "living former prime ministers" sections do not belong here 

message: I love him Bijoy barua (talk) 16:41, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  I love italy country. it's my favarit country. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The assimilation of the term "Prime Minister" (used in UK and in translation from italian) to the italian "President of the Council of Ministers" is simply incorrect. The roles are really different between the two and prerogatives and functions too. Italy is a parliamentary republic. Many attempts were done to transform that, but failed. So President of the Council of Ministers is the right choice, even if longer but prime minister is simply SIMPLISTIC. thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.30.236.72 (talk) 15:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In UK, USA and other English-speaking countries the head of government is known as "Prime Minister" and the Italian one does not break this rule. For example, the Prime Minister of Spain is known in his country as "President of the Government", but in English this term doesn't mean anything, and we could say the same for "President of the Council of Ministers": no one outside Italy refers to Giuseppe Conte with this title (ok, in this case, probably not even Italians do it...). So the correct name is "Prime Minister" and it won't be changed :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 20:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: To be clear, the USA is a republic and is run by the President who gets voted in, not a prime minister like in Canada and the UK where we have PMs who we DO NOT vote for. They are simply prime ministers because they are leaders of the majority elected parties.  --Tallard (talk) 04:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term "prime minister" must be changed 

message: There is currently a section called "Years of the Second Republic", not further explained in the article.  This is not going to be meaningful to most Anglophone readers.  The reference is to an informal term used in the press, seconda repubblica, connoting the somewhat dubious proposition that the changes coming out of the mani pulite investigations into the Tangentopoli scandals were equivalent to a whole new constitution.
If we want to continue to call out this section of history separately, I think we need to find a better solution for the naming, or at least explain the term inline (not just link it somewhere). --Trovatore (talk) 18:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Second Republic" 

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message: We have a photo which is a portrait of good quality, with the individual looking straight ahead at the camera, face not covered by mic, and recently taken. It's similar to all other photo used for the previous Prime minister in their infobox. Can we please stop replacing it by a photo which doesn't gather all these elements ? Aréat (talk) 22:39, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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message: Assalamu alaikum sir 106.0.52.211 (talk) 08:33, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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