Talk:Normal, Illinois

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• Sbmeirow • Talk •  06:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: While it can probably be reinserted into the article (after rewording), I've removed the following note from the article's "trivia" section, pending citation:
:One fact the article fails to mention is a period of time during the early 1970s after an adventurous vandal had climbed the water tower and spray-painted "AB" in front of the town's name. 
Tomertalk 03:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I never took a picture of it, and I don't know if anyone else did either. What was amazing to we students at the time was how long it took for the city fathers to fix it. It sat that way for months. I don't know if "fun vandalism" is the right word. Whoever did it, the joke was over quickly and it was just an eyesore after that. Wahkeenah 06:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "fun" wasn't meant to modify "vandalism", it was meant to modify "vandalism note".  Tomertalk 05:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fun vandalism note 

message: This page has been hit pretty hard by vandals lately, please watch it.A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 15:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just reverted some stuff that may have been missed previously.  WLU 15:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, I have requested some folks from WikiProject Illinois to keep an eye on it along with myself and another user who is a self described "anti-vandal patriot." Things should be okay now. There was a lot, so much that I couldn't really find a version to revert to so I just went through and started removing stuff that looked like vandalism or spam.A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 15:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: If you actually know anything about the town, you might want to check the people I just removed, I couldn't find a link to Normal so I took 'em out, but that doesn't mean the links aren't there. WLU 15:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Until I get up to speed on this article, I will only be able to revert content only or obvious cases of vandalism. I can't remember the last time I was in Illinois. Ronbo76 15:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah I used to live nearby. I'll check em out.A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 15:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandals

message: Geolinks is the preferred mapping engine these days for Wikipedia. It can be scaled at cityscale for a large town; hoodscale for an intermediate suburb or photo for a smaller community like Normal, IL. In addition, the photo scale is useful for showing a picture (if available of a distinct object/building/etc.) that when the scale is brought down on WikiMapia displays really nicely. Clicking on the WikiMapia link, you will now see the community. Plus, you can see a university to the west along with some domed stadium (if you zoom in using the plus sign near the top left). Cheers, Ronbo76 15:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be Illinois State University and Redbird Arena. A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 16:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It works real nice on arenas, local landmarks, bridges, etc. The coordinates can be found by opening a WikiMapia entry to the nearby item you would like mapped by dragging the map until the crosshairs are over the landmark. Then in the upper left corner, select Add Place and a box will be superimposed over the item. You can enlarge the box or even change the scale as appropriate. Once it is defined, the coordinates will be displayed when you save it. Unfortunately, you need to convert the minutes to decimal minutes, i.e., 40.3060N 89.9910W would required the .3060 and .9910 to be divided by 60 to get the correct decimal minutes. Ronbo76 19:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to geolinks 

message: It is nice to see some constructive activity around this page. Thanks to everybody who is trying to improve this article. I am trying to get WikiProject Illinois to make it their next collaboration. The current one, Springfield, Illinois, has gone really well.IvoShandor 14:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would recommend some photos. One of the red wikilink Children's Museum (outside) would be high on my list. Maybe even a gallery. Ronbo76 14:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to lean toward using  to link to pages there as opposed to adding bulky galleries here. They can have long load times on slow connections, and Wikipedia is a great source of knowledge for the developing world. : )IvoShandor 15:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This is nice

message: Following is the trivia section, it is unreferenced. The burden is on the editors who added it to provide references not on me who removed it, please don't readd it as a trivia section instead integrate it, once referenced, into the appropriate sections. See WP:V if this is problematic but it shouldn't be. IvoShandor 11:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced stuff

message: I added a transportation section.  Feel free to edit.
I'll get some photos pretty soon, perhaps this weekend.  Any nominations?  I think the Watterson Towers, The Normal Theater, and Constitution Trail are no-brainers.  ISU Homecoming Parade is October 13th, so that might be a candidate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by East-West (talk • contribs) 17:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the article 

message: I am working with the Bloomington-Normal Area Convention & Visitor's Bureau to make the Wikipedia page more user-friendly for those wishing to plan a visit to the area.  I have added the attractions section and I have made some additions to the transportation and education sections.  
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If you are concerned about anything I have posted please feel free to let me know.  Bloomington-Normal Area Visitors & Convention Bureau (talk) 18:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tourist guide. The attractions section looks very touristy, and I do have a problem with that. Please try to keep neutrality. Sorchah (talk) 03:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attractions 

message: For a town with such an unusual and distinctive name shouldn't there be a mention of how that name came about?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.129.86.205 (talk) 22:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name 

message: A while ago, I put a box on this page listing the census population over 70 years, in an attempt to show the dramatic population growth.  It was taken down (I read) because someone said that it made the town look small.  The town of Bloomington doesn't have one either, for the same reason, I suspect.  Isn't that an important thing to know about a city or town, when it had its largest growth?
By the way, here's the data for Normal's historical population from US Census:
1890   3459	N/A
1900   3796	9.7%
1910   4024	6.0%
1920   5143	27.8%
1930   6768	31.6%
1940   6983	3.2%
1950   9772	39.9%
1960  13357	36.7%
1970  26396	97.6%
1980  35672	35.1%
1990  40023	12.2%
2000  45386	13.4%
2010  52497	15.7%
East-West
:Per WP:USCITY#Demographics, I see no reason not to add the information back in. "making the town look small" is not a good reason for removal. Feel free to add it back in. Cheers Dkriegls (talk) 21:07, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a census table, using the data from above, and verified the 2010 census.  • Sbmeirow • Talk •  06:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population History 

message: I was surprised to see the following statement on the origin of the Normal town name:
:The name "Normal" is an English corruption of the original name. Like many cities in the region, it was originally settled by the French. The earliest expedition to the location termed it "Noire Mal" in their journal, an appellation that denotes "dark and evil". As the journal was later discovered, and no survivors returned from the expedition, the reason for this daunting entry is unknown.
Because this statement has no citation, was added by an anonymous account with only a single contribution in their history, and provides a rationale for the 'Normal' naming that suspiciously arrives at the same result as the obvious Normal School history, I have removed it to this location for further discussion and research. --Mindfrieze (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Naming Origin 

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message: When I was in Normal (1971-73) it was dry and we had to go to Bloomington to get a drink. This seems like something worth mentioning in the History section. Details should be in the Pantagraph but I can't access it from Europe. Also, there were apparently beer riots at ISU in 1984. Roundtheworld (talk) 12:45, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Normal and alcohol