Talk:Montclair-Boonton Line

message: The Ampere Station was not on the Montclair Branch it was in East Orange and ran on the Morristown line from Morristown, Newark Broad Street and Hoboken Terminal. I will be reinstating it and deleting it from the Montclair-Boonton line article. 151.198.167.183 07:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ampere Station

message: I deleted this section after reading that its service will be pushed back for quite some time, with no firm start date anymore. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Weekend Service

message: whoever wrote this clearly was angry at NJ transit, perhaps someone affected by what happened.  I did my best to reword the slander and comparisons to genocide, but it still needs to be more wikified. maybe it could be moved to the Great Notch (NJT station) article Tlantanu (talk) 22:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: electrification segment on Great notch

message: As requested, here is a peer review of the article. I will start this now, but will not finish the review now (more later). 
*The lead is six paragraphs long - per WP:LEAD, the lead should not be more than four paragraphs long.
*I also note that are items in the lead which seem to be only in the lead, like  Peak trains arrive in New York City on weekdays between 7:47 am and 8:58 am, and in Hoboken on weekdays between 7:13 am and 9:03 am. Peak trains leave New York on weekdays between 4:52 pm and 6:40 pm, while peak trains depart Hoboken on weekdays between 4:29 pm and 6:51 pm. Since the lead is a summary of the whole article, there really should not be anything which is only in the lead.
*I also wonder if the level of detail in the lead is appropriate - I think of the lead as an overview of the article for the interested reader, but the current lead seems a bit too detailed. One potential problem is having to update the lead and the article body every time the schedules on the line change - if the lead is a more general overview, only the text would need to be kept up to date.
*I also wonder about providing context to the reader with some of the detailed information. For example, with the sentence quoted above or Out of 31 inbound and 34 outbound daily weekday trains, 21 inbound and 22 outbound Midtown Direct trains (about 66%) use the Kearny Connection (opened June 10, 1996) to Secaucus Junction and New York Penn Station; the rest go to Hoboken Terminal. The latter sentence has the date for the Kearney Connection opening (which is good), but my guess is that in the 14 years since the connector opened, these numbers may well have varied / fluctuated, so this probably needs an "As of 2010" or "Since YEAR" some such qualifer. This may also be a WP:RECENT issue. 
*On my monitor there is a huge amount of white space from the long infobox (The History section starts about at the "Denville electrification resumes" level on the infobox on my monitor.
*There are also some fairly serious text sandwiches between images on my monitor, which the MOS is not in favor of. I understand wanting to get all the images in - would something like  work better?
OK, I am calling it a night. Will have more comments in the next few days, looking more at the text and any other issues. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 04:59, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I've cut it significantly, but I am trying to make sure the full line history is covered in the necessary detail, since some of it is in possible reusing.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 04:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be very clear, I was not saying get rid of the material completely - I think it should be on Wikipedia and I assumed it would fit in the New York and Greenwood Lake Railway (1878–1943) article. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 04:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm holding off since adding random info with nowhere to place it in the article would be more worth it when the entire article is rewritten, a job I may end up doing, sine I see little interest to pre-1983 stuff.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I just feel bad that all that detailed history is not somewhere on Wiki now (besides old versions of this). Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review by Ruhrfisch 

message: ;New York & Greenwood Lake Railroad (Erie)
*Since the article is New York and Greenwood Lake Railway (1878–1943), I think the header should not have an ampersand (currently it is "New York & Greenwood Lake Railroad (Erie)". Ditto the text in this article itself (or is the other article incorrect?)
*The date should be in there earlier. More soon, Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 04:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I've cut it significantly, but I am trying to make sure the full line history is covered in the necessary detail, since some of it is in possible reusing.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 04:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be very clear, I was not saying get rid of the material completely - I think it should be on Wikipedia and I assumed it would fit in the New York and Greenwood Lake Railway (1878–1943) article. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 04:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm holding off since adding random info with nowhere to place it in the article would be more worth it when the entire article is rewritten, a job I may end up doing, sine I see little interest to pre-1983 stuff.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I just feel bad that all that detailed history is not somewhere on Wiki now (besides old versions of this). Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

text: *Done.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Section break

message: Most of this line between Montclair State University and Denville is single track.  The article makes no mention of this (or else I missed it) and uses the plural term "tracks" rather than the singular "track" to describe the single track section of the line.  I am not sure whether this is correct, but if the singular term is not used, then mention should be made of the single track status over this portion.  One consequence of this single track section that might also be worthy of note is that many trains that run between Montclair State and Dover do so in only one direction, making the return trip between Dover and Hoboken over the Morristown line. Rlendog (talk) 14:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:OR applies to the last sentence here. Also when I used tracks I meant the alignment of the line rather than constituting the # of tracks, but yes its single track.Mitch32(Growing up with Wikipedia: 1 edit at a time.) 14:46, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track or Tracks? 

message: Selective and out of context inclusion of this line (straight from NJT's "Talking Points" at the time of the closure - complete with the meaningless weasel-word phrase "within blocks") adds nothing to this article, but is clearly an attempt by user Oknazevad to provide "justification" for the closure of the 2 stations and to influence the opinion of the reader - literally the wictionary-definition of "propaganda"
HerbertMMarx (talk) 04:55, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Way to fail WP:AGF there, pal. It's quite clear from your original edit summary that you  have an axe to grind with NJT. I have no such PoV, and am insulted that you would dare question my motives. I am not the editor who added the passage to the article, and indeed the passage has been in the article since before I first read it. Withdraw your accusation immediately. oknazevad (talk) 17:30, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Benson Street and Rowe Street were already within blocks of open stations" removed - violates npov 

message: This is incomplete. It should include Forest Hill, Soho, Belwood Park, Bloomfield and Singac on the Greenwood Lake, and Montville on the Boonton Line.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.103.241 (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Montville, as it is a former station on the currently active line. However, the others are on the segment no longer in service, and were closed long before the line was consolidated, in some cases before the Greenwood Lake and Boonton lines were merged c. 1960, so I'm not so sure if they belong. The New York and Greenwood Lake Railway article might be a better fit. oknazevad (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closed Stations 

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message: Earlier this year, Norfolk Southern agreed to begin talks to sell the 10 mile stretch of track that was closed in 2002 when the Montclair Connection opened. Should we make mention of this since it does include the former portion of the line? I do think this should be mentioned in the New York and Greenwood Lake Railway article at the very least but I wanted to bring it up here too.
Source 1, Source 2, Link to the Greenway's section on the NJ Bike & Walk CoalitionColeTrain4EVER (talk) 15:11, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Essex-Hudson Greenway section or mention for Lower Boonton Line track? 

message: I snapped a nice pic earlier this year and I think it belongs in this article but the various segments confuse me and I don't know which article section belongs to it. Help! Jim.henderson (talk) 23:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where does this bridge belong? 

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