Talk:Tallinn

message: I note a coupld of the other wikis have Tallinn pics too, although I humbly submit that the one I just added is better. :-) Stan 05:25, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: beacuse there is also Toompea = Dome Hill = uptown = uphill = "ülalinn" = Kalevite kants = Castle of Kalevs = Kalevan linna = Kolõvan(???)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal <-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley
04. December 2005
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasutaja:Suwa
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:: To speculate even more, Tallinn can also be devided to Tall+Linn,
'tall' meaning in estonian 'horse stable' -> Stable Town, as it was the most important trading centre where to all roads took. :)
Isn't the finnish word for house even closer and therefore more likely?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.74.241.182 (talk) 14:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tallinn = Tal + linn = Town in valley = Downtown = alllinn 

message: Wikipedia is not a travel guide. This section should therefore be reformatted to be more typical of an encyclopedia, rather than a travel guide such as Wikitravel. Any comments before I start? Wikiacc (talk) 23:15, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)
:Start deletion? This article is thin enough as it is. Though I'm all for professionalism, I say rather than rewording, there shouldn't be much change. People who look up this article here, will most likely be interested in these attractions, or generally any attractions the city has to offer. Again, I agree that "For the tourist" isn't the way to go, but the information containd in the body of that paragraph should be preserved. PoorLeno 02:32, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
::I partially agree; my opinion tends more toward rewording. However, please note that What Wikipedia is not is an official Wikipedia policy, and said rewording is not simply in the name of professionalism but a Wikipedia standard. A method of presenting that section can be worked out that will be acceptable to both policy and the need of the user for relevant information. --Wikiacc (talk) 21:44, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
:::If Wikipedia is not a tourist guide there should not be any information about high consumption of alcoholic drinks by the Finns in Tallinn. - Guest 20:11, September 8, 2005
I reverted some of Boothy443's revision, as some of the removed text was good wikipedia material.  I re-added information about the ferry lines operating in the port, and links to the Tallinn airport and seaport. --Nuffle 20:44, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: For the tourist

message: Quote:
:During the 1980 Summer Olympics a regatta was held in Tallinn. Many buildings, like the Olympic hotel, the new Main Post Office building, and the Regatta Center, were built for the Olympics.
I think the hotel in question is Reval Hotel Olümpia, commonly known just as "Olümpia".
Mardus 11:47, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Olympic hotel' = 'olümpiahotell', in the same vein as 'Olympic village' is 'olümpiaküla', while hotel names should be referred to their current, original or the shortest non-ambiguous name, preferably with quotes (to evade ambiguity); "Olümpia" as such fits fine. Calling the hotel Olympic (like that) is not very appropriate either, because construction of the building was completed only in 1986, by which time the Olympic Regatta was already history. Neither is your English good enough to support your viewpoint and I find that your substantiation is therefore weak. -Mardus 10:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Olympic hotel' 

message: Quote:
:According to Eurostat, the statistical agency of the European Union, of all EU member states' capital cities, Tallinn has the largest number of non-EU nationals: 27.8% of its population are not EU citizens.
The number seems to be fairly recent /around 2000-2004, but the exact Eurostat source and year of publication are missing. Mardus 11:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, especially knowing that Estonia joined the EU on the 1st of May 2004. This means the Eurostat published its statistics about the number of EU citizens in Estonia not earlier than 01.05.2004 Guest 20:49, September 8, 2005
I think that the years on population table should be displayed as links to these years.
Tiigrikutzu 10:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Would it be a good idea to create a separate article that deals specifically with Old Tallinn and Tallinn's history in more detail?
Reasons for this suggestion is that, Old Tallinn is a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and thus maybe deserves a separate article as such.
There is also at least one other example in Wikipedia where this is done, namely Old Rauma is separated from main article Rauma, Finland.
I also found a short article, Legends of Tallinn, that would make a fine addition to Old Tallinn article, but is just too short on it's own.
Brainheart 03:39, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold and create the article! It is definitely a topic worthy of one. --Wikiacc (talk) 22:32, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article about Old Tallinn? 

message: Just out of curiosity: is Tallinn a commodity of some kind to have a logo? Does London have a logo? Or is it a logo of a local radio station (as it seems to be)? And if it is, does it have to be in the article? —Barbatus 17:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tallinn does indeed have a logo. So does London (I can't find a link to it now, but it's the one that reads LONDON, with the ON in blue and the LOND in red). These logos are not equivalent to the city's flag or coat of arms, which are heraldic symbols, but are rather used in the local council's branding, particularly for tourism and culture. And yes, Tallinn is definitely as a commodity and a brand, as are all cities and even countries (most European countries have a logo of some sort that is used to represent them at trade and tourism fairs). The official site of the Tallinn City Hall uses the logo, see http://www.tallinn.ee  Ronline ✉ 08:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The logo is a city shiluette of tallinn, and a reflection of the shiluette on the sea. In together forming something that might look like audio wave in some sound editor. That's probably where the slogan comes from on the logo. Suva Чего? 17:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo of Tallinn?

message: Would anyone have a problem with the remove of the coding for the old infobox, since the article has a usable one currently. Basically it would just free up some space. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 07:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being that their have been no objections lodged i have moved forwared with this, though feel free to discuss anyway, the code is still in the history. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 21:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old infobox code 

message: According to the Kiel page, Kiel is twinned with Tallinn. Indeed, I seem to remember seeing something like that on the city signs there; can anybody shed any light on this (and add it to the section on the Tallinn page or remove it from the Kiel one)?
Cheers! 82.32.65.149 23:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to  (which looks official), "Kiel is twinned with Brest (France), Coventry (Great Britain), Gdynia (Poland), Kaliningrad and Sovetsk (both in the Russian Federation), Stralsund (Germany), Tallinn (Estonia) and Vaasa (Finland)." But no mention of the topic at all in the Tallinn official site. Can anyone confirm these? I'm inclined to accept them as fact. Folks at 137 18:15, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twin towns 

message: I think the picture description about St. Olaf's church should be corrected, because it is not only the highest building in Old Town, but is also the highest building in Tallinn. Curgny 12:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only that it isn't. The Tallinn TV Tower, which has its own entry here, is 312,6 meters, and Oleviste is now 123,7 meters, i.e., not even half as tall. As far as I know, the TV tower stands in Pirita, which is part of Tallinn. Clossius 06:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Teletorn (TV tower) is highest structure. Currently the highest building in Tallinn (And in Estonia) is and will remain the St. Olaf-s church because it is not allowed to build higher buildings than the church. Curgny 22:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It think it is only so in Tallinn. Tiigrikutzu 14:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture description 

message: This is a strange sentence:
Skype is the best-known of several Tallinn IT start-ups, and a first venture capital firm was founded in 2005.
If these are two separate pieces of information (1: "skype is ..." and 2: "First venture ..."), they could be in different sentences. Or is there a connection? "Skype is the first venture ..."? And I don't think the first venture capital firm was founded so late, I'm sure it was much earlier. I even wrote a bachelor's study in 2003 about venture capital in Estonia and included a part about Estonian venture capital providers.
What's the source of "first venture capital firm was founded in 2005"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.35.168.61 (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A very murky sentence, indeed. I added a __fact__ tag to the sentence. Skype itself was founded around 2002-2003, while Fotki.com began in 1998. Maybe it was meant that the first Estonian-founded (and -owned) venture capital firm was founded in 2005. For example, Lõhmus, Haavel ja Viisemann's earliest public annual reports are from 2005, while the http://www.lhv.ee website's copyright notice years begin from 2001 (which should be the time when that enterprise was founded). -Mardus 10:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skype / first venture capital in 2005? 

message: I have removed this second info box from the main article.  I have placed it here for reference, but please do not re-include it as articles should only have one info box. Alan.ca 16:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Infobox 

message: What exactly is meant by a red-linked "Chivalry of Estonia"? Olessi 02:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Chivalry of Estonia" is not really terminology used in English. I would suggest instead "Estonian Knighthood", which has some printed references. "Ritterschaft" is occasionally left untranslated, although I don't think we should do that here. I think "Baltic German-populated Estonian Knighthood (Ritterschaft)" would be the best phrasing for our intended audience. Olessi 15:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Chivalry of Estonia" 

message: If anybody needs a little material for the history bit, here is a drawing of a former seal
 Valentinian T / C 21:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical seal 

message: In the condensed section the map image should be changed with larger view of Northern Europe,
just like it is under Stockholm and Helsinki pages.</p>
The red dot indicating the location of Tallinn is in the wrong place too. Not sure how to change it and rather busy to find the lime to learn at present.79.86.198.152 (talk) 15:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map image 

message: I think Silja Line no more operates between Helsinki and Tallinn, they lost superseacats when Tallink bought Silja.--62.65.192.83 (talk) 17:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ferry companies???

message: My parets have recently returned from Tallinn, back to England, and brought with them a silver ornament of a rat, laughitng with a round belly. They believe it is symbolic only to Tallinn as they were sold a lot in Tallin. What is this symbol?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.117.4 (talk) 18:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rat

message: Tallinn University is not only former "Tallinn Pedagogical University", but also EHI (Estonian Institute of Humanities), Institute of History, Baltic Film and Media School (SIC!) and many other institutions that joined and now are called "Tallinn University". 
My suggestion is to remove the comment about the pedagogical university and remove distinct entry of "Baltic Film and Media School" under Education.
Ats Puu (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Martintg (talk) 04:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tallinn University is not former Pedagogical University 

message: This article looks really ugly, I mean look at it, so bad positioning.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.10.185 (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see anything remotely "ugly" about it.  Would you care to be more specific? --Ericdn (talk) 19:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Start at history and ends at economy. Look at all those tables, there are so many and they are badly positioned.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.10.185 (talk) 22:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're more than welcome to try to fix the page so that it looks better.  Just complaining about it isn't going to solve anything.  You've got to do it yourself! --Ericdn (talk) 08:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow 

message: Does anyone have a soviet map or any other information on exact boundaries of administrative districts of Tallinn (Lenin, Kalinin, Oktober and Sea districts)?DVoit 20:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative districts of Tallinn during USSR 

message: Should the Old Town of Tallinn be considered an independent entity/article from Tallinn? I would love to contribute to its wonderful new beginning. Although I wasn't born there, I spent 3 amazing years living inside the old city working as a carpenter / electrical engineer for a local construction company. Word, (Spacestoned (talk) 03:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello Here 

message: Is there a link between the Estonian Tallinn and the Welsh Tal Y Llyn meaning the end  of the Lake?
Roarmezma.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.160.93.158 (talk) 15:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tallinn 

message: The collage in the infobox (:File:Tallinncollage2012.jpg) has an image of what is described as "The Cross of Freedom". I'm curious as to what it is. The rest of the article doesn't mention it, and it appears to be computer generated. Gabbe (talk) 01:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  a link in the caption to the article for the sake of clarity. Gabbe (talk) 17:24, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross of Freedom 

message: Someone is constantly changing the pictures of the City to right without notifying anyone on the talk page. This is an act of vandalism, please state why you are changing the pictures before doing so. I have redone the changes back to how it was DjSeptimus (talk) 14:02, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constant vandalism please lock the page 

message: Doesn't Tallinn have built-up area bigger than city proper? Or Metropolitan area? Inkogn (talk) 14:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Urban, Metropolitan

message: The toponymy section lists previous names Kolyvan (Qlwn, Qalaven), Lindanisa (Lyndanisse, Lindanäs, Ledenets), Reval (Rääveli, Rafala, Revel) and says the name Tallinn replaced Reval in "1918-20". But it's not clear whether this was the first time the name Tallinn was used, or whether it had been used before then. This needs to be sorted out. Beautifultree (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was the name "Tallinn" first used? 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 06:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Tallinn]] 

message: If we claim that Eesti Energia is "the world biggest oil to energy company" then the statement should be referenced. Currently it is referenced to http://www.easac.org/fileadmin/PDF_s/reports_statements/Study.pdf I have looked throgh this report but failed to find any ranging of the world oild shale companies. The report is also very old - 2007 while the oil shale revolution in the USA happens after 2010. Since a significant percentage of the USA-produced oil and natural gas comes from shale it highly unlikely that Estonia produces more energy from oil shale even if Narva Electric Station produces 80% of country energy from oil shale - the scales of economies of the USA and Estonia are just almost incomparable. Since Eesti Energy is a player on the USA oil shale market as well via its subsidiaries it is theoretically possible to be the first but it needs to be sourced.
Also we need to explain by what criteria Eesti is the world biggest: oil shale resources, oil shale production, electricity produced, market capitalisation, number of employees, etc. It is not clear now Alex Bakharev (talk) 09:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Eesti Energia is the place for this discussion and sources. Until credible sources are there, "biggest" should not be in this article. --WikiHannibal (talk) 09:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eesti Energia as the world biggest Oil Shale energy company 

message: How is "Tallinn" pronounced? Where is the stress?
CarolinianJeff (talk) 19:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On the first syllable. See Estonian_language#Stress. The "a" is pronounced as the "o" in "bother", and the "i" is a weak "ee" sound. The consonants "ll" and "nn" are long, and get held a bit longer than their short versions "l" and "n" (they do not modify the pronunciation of the vowels as in English). Dcoetzee 02:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I ain't doubting you, but am I the only one who hears the name ("Tallinn") stressed in the second sillable ("-linn") instead of in the first ("Tal-") by all Estonians in here: http://forvo.com/word/tallinn/  ? Grelngo4ehn54oçh (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As "linn" is generally an independent word (meaning "town"), the stress is on both the "Tal-" and "-linn" parts, but as a general rule in Estonian, the stronger stress is on the first syllable. As an Estonian, I think the pronunciation given in the article is correct.H2ppyme (talk) 05:50, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation?

message: Recently, I have edited the weather box/climate table since it has been changed dramatically (I last edited in 2013). However, it has been removed a couple of times (,  and ). I do object to removing the weather box for a couple of reasons:
# After checking the sources, the data is correct. I understand that it had been vandalized a couple times. I think this occurred in July 2016 with this edit. ().
# The addition of the climate table is standard in many cities (e.g Paris, London, Buenos Aires) since it summarized detailed climate data in an easy to read format. In many cases, it is a better alternative to using prose to mention the average by month. Ssbbplayer (talk) 13:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: * No problem. I am glad this misunderstanding has been resolved.:) Ssbbplayer (talk) 14:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate 

message: Uploaded a new montage with a better layout and better quality images. User Schpider insists to use the Template:Photomontage inspired by the Berlin article, which I disagree to. The idea is good but the Template is faulty by nature, allowing only certain dimensions for images and an inflexible layout. There's no point of uploading and congesting Commons with cropped versions of multiple pictures just to be able to use the template. As stated in the Template talk:Photomontage it's "better to just create a single montage image and upload it to wikicommons" to avoid issues regarding browser compatibility. I haven't come across any other city article that would use the same template besides Berlin, even the cities represented in the Template:Photomontage tutorial page have opted out from using the template because of it's inconvenience. Hopefully this discussion can avoid another disruptive edit from Schpider who has been warned about his action.SvenEst (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Montage discussion 

message: I've added a section recently on notable people from Tallinn. Contributor 27.32.240.206 has taken steps to hide the section although not, I'm please to say, deleted it. He/she says the new section "clutters" the article. Many cities listed in Wikipedia include a section on notable people. What do others readers think, would they prefer the new notables section to be openly accessible or hidden?
ArbieP (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is a list of notable people from Tallinn welcome, or does it clutter the article? 

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message: Is this worth mentioning?:  It is the main locale in James Patterson's novel, Blindside. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.138.66 (talk • contribs) 6 August 2021 (UTC)
: I don't think so, because we even haven't article about this book, and not mentioned at James Patterson--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

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