Talk:Dark Chronicle

message: Is Dark Chronicle the Japanese title, too? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed them, as they have nothing to do with the game. Dreaded Walrus  t c 18:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm still somewhat confused on the title 

message: The game is more known as Dark Cloud 2. It first came out in English speaking countries as Dark Cloud 2. It has priority over the European version and priority over the Japanese version simply because the Japanese version has little bearing on the en.wiki. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But wasn't it made by a Japanese developer? The name should be judged on source, ie Level-5 Japan, and the source calls it Dark Chronicle. Leemorrison 15:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If that were the case then MANY articles would have to be changed based on the "source." Personally I think it's time for another move vote. Several people have clearly been confused when they come to English wikipedia and find the game listed under the JP/EU name.--Claude 19:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The game is more well-known as Dark Cloud 2. Because it's known as Dark Chronicle in two regions does not mean we should change it - Hell, even one of the regions you mention isn't a factor. We don't cater to people from that region. And additionally, it was released in North America first. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's MUCH more well-known as Dark Chronicle since THE ENTIRE WORLD apart from North America knows this as Dark Chronicle. Those are lots of people. The English Wikipedia is the international version of Wikipedia (not the US version), and its design and layout should reflect that. (Djungelurban 21:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark Cloud 2 

message: *I request that Dark Chronicle be moved back to Dark Cloud 2. It is the more common title, and it was released in North America first. Just because the EU and JP versions share the same name doesn't counter recognizeability. If we did, Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! would be redirected to Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training: How Old Is Your Brain?. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move (2)

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: Now that the page has been moved back, I have to change everywhere where it says Dark Chronicle to Dark Cloud 2. Don't hesitate to fix any if I miss them. Leemorrison 15:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved! 

message: I have to get this worked out as well. I don't think any of them are especially relevant, apart from perhaps the last one. Leemorrison 18:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of it is plain wrong, too. I know this isn't a forum, but Dark Chronicle cannot be a prequel because in Max's timeline and Monica's original timeline, the planet has two moons just like in Dark Cloud. Further, evidence of which Dark Cloud town or dungeon the area used to be is fairly evident in Rainbow Butterfly Wood's unusable Back Floor connections. Of course I won't get into the paradoxes that would prevent Max from ever existing in the first place. Bear Eagleson  —Preceding comment was added at 23:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
Dark Cloud 2 → Dark Chronicle — It is only called Dark Cloud 2 in 1 part of the world, it was originally called Dark Chronicle AND is called Dark Chronicle in other english-speaking areas. —Leemorrison 20:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support The game is only known as Dark Cloud 2 in one region. oopsadoodle(§) 11:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments:
It is probably worth noting that even the article itself seems to admit that Dark Cloud 2 is the minority name: 
Dark Cloud 2 (or Dark Chronicle in countries other than the U.S. and Canada)
In countries other than the US and Canada? Since when does it being renamed for one territory mean it should be at that name? Again, it would be like having Bully (video game) located at Canis Canem Edit. And in that case, it would even allow us to get rid of the disambiguation brackets. But it would still be silly. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 11:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 05:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move (3) 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support The game is only known as Dark Cloud 2 in one region. oopsadoodle(§) 11:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments:
It is probably worth noting that even the article itself seems to admit that Dark Cloud 2 is the minority name: 
Dark Cloud 2 (or Dark Chronicle in countries other than the U.S. and Canada)
In countries other than the US and Canada? Since when does it being renamed for one territory mean it should be at that name? Again, it would be like having Bully (video game) located at Canis Canem Edit. And in that case, it would even allow us to get rid of the disambiguation brackets. But it would still be silly. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 11:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 05:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: It's... atrocious. The structure, choice of words, phrasing.
Something should be done. The storyline should be split into sections, each describing the events of every chapter. A few paragraphs would be okay if the game didn't provide labels for each section of the game, but such is not the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.96.217 (talk) 23:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The quality of the story outline 

message: I've made a couple changes to the original soundtrack tracklist, and I've fixed the name discrepancies on the premium arrange's tracklist.
I made an edit earlier changing "Charlotte" to "Sindain" and didn't mark it as a minor edit because it's a considerable difference. The reason for this change is that the tracklist already seemed to favor the English names over the Japanese ones. Take "Starlight Temple" for example; this name was favored over "Stella Magic Temple" even though the Katakana characters ステラ (su te ra) come out to mean "Stella" and the Hirgana characters 魔法 (mahou) mean "magic". Stella Temple is the name of the same area in the Japanese version, but Starlight Temple was chosen because that name matches the name of the music's area in the English version of the game (Dark Cloud 2). This paradigm was consistent throughout the tracklist except for the instance of Charlotte, which is the name corresponding to Sindain between the two versions of the game.
I changed "Gundor Volcano Grotto" to "Mount Gundor" also to match this.  Gundor Volcano Grotto could be a description of the place rather than the name, but it would be the single track that wasn't named exactly after its corresponding area in the game, which would be odd.
Hellacia (talk) 07:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracklist changes/notes 

message: I've added a subsection about whatever SIGCOV RSes have published on Dark Cloud 3 as a result of WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 25#Dark Cloud 3. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 21:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If it cannot be cited to realiable independent sources, it cannot be included in the Wikipedia article. Wikipedia's role is a tertiary source, to collige and cover content cited to primary and secondary sources, we do not produce or write any "original content" or anything beyond what can be cited to reliable sources. "Fans would like to see it" is meaningless in the context of determining whether content is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. "Fans would like to see it" is the kind of reasoning that sounds like the content might be suitable for venues like Fandom (Wikia). Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 16:55, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about the files readily available from the disc?  Those are not only a reliable source - but 100% verifiable.Shazepe (talk) 18:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , verifiable but notable? How does a self-reference pass WP:N? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

text:  According to that page, yes it looks like it.  The disc is not a "self reference" and it says secondary sources should be used too, I'll write a shorter bit about it Shazepe (talk) 12:37, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , reliable secondary sources. Not user-generated ones. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{noredirect|Dark Cloud 3}}