Talk:List of Death Note characters/Archive 1

message: :Apparently, L's real name is something like "Elle Lawright". Pretty lame if I do say so myself. 169.237.214.145 18:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I put down L. Lawliet, But yours sounds better. Any link to a good translation? - Malomeat 11:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: L. Lawliet is the official name, according to How To Read 13. That is, the Special Edition thereof that includes things like, relevantly, the L True Name Card. It's got an illustration of L, with "L Lawliet" written across it. Any other romanizations are false, just like the many people that still call Light 'Raito'. It's like Homer Jay Simpson all over again, isn't it? ;) Nique1287 19:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Elle is also a girls name. It is french for "she" or "her" depending on use. Given the Rem wrote L's name in her Death Note, are we forced to assume that L's first name was simple "L?" Also, Ihve a question regarding names. If the Shingami eyes reveal the name of a person, not a pseudonym, then would on person A, would it show Bill or James? (This is a assuming Person A was born as "Bill" nd later had his name altered to "James," for example.) L_Lawleit 1:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, L's real first name is just the letter L, because that's what the creators made it. Just because it was written in a Death Note doesn't mean it couldn't be a letter. There have been stranger names than single letters before. As for your question, we don't know, the situation hasn't come up and the creators haven't said anything like that. Presumably, your birth name would be the name that would show and that you'd have to write in a Death Note, but if it was changed legally, then it might be the new name instead. There's really no accurate answer. Nique talk 14:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real Name

message: Shouldn't L, Light, and Misa Amane among others have their own articles? MoChan 18:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. I mean, if you got enough sources to go into character analysis of Light or L, you MIGHT be able to put together a fair-sized article, but most of them would just be stubs. There's not much worth saying that can't be said on this page, really. Death Note isn't precisely a short series, but a lot of the series is more action-based or consisting of exposition, and there's not all that much character development in comparison. The only characters that really change at all are Light, in his rather quick journey from innocent high school student to crazed Kira, and Misa, who goes from innocent girl to naive Kira and back again many times. Even L doesn't change significantly, he's the same person the first time you meet him as he is the *cough* last, except that he makes a couple of "friends" along the way. The only way you'd really get long articles on any of them would be either to have too much original research or opinion, or to put too much of what belongs on the Plot page on the character pages. Just my thoughts, though. Nique1287 18:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  If we did make articles for each character, we would be making all those AfD obsessed people happy =D  SuperDT 07:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles

message: How come ライト is transcribed as Light? Is that specific meaning mentioned somewhere in the manga or film adaption that I missed? It could just as well be Right, Wright, Write or even Lyte etc. --Himasaram 14:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Viz translated it as "Light" because it is "Light"; no buts about it.--(十八|talk) 15:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The creator intended it to be based on the word "Light", hence it is "Light" not your other suggestions. I think it was explained by Light himself when he meets Misa in the manga, how his name means 'light' but is written with equivalent Japanese characters. I could be mistaken on that, but it WAS the creator's intention that it be Light. Nique1287 18:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a note, the equivalent Han character is that for moon. --Himasaram 09:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raito 

message: Are most of the editors anglosaxon/American? L might seem underweight considering his height and weight from an American point of view but that may not match up with other countries. I am roughly the same weight and height as L but I'm actually taller and heavier than most of my classmates in Europe. An American might consider L short and skinny but from a European point of view he is of average height and normal weight.83.193.117.236 12:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 5'10" and 110 lbs (179 cm and 50 kg) is not healthy. It's very underweight for the height. The article stating that he's underweight is going by guidelines which are not based on the American average, but physical healthiness of height/weight combinations. Your height and weight being more than most of your classmates may be true, and it may be average for the height where you live, however that doesn't make it healthy, hence the article stating that L is underweight. Nique talk 14:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height and Weight according to other countries? 

message: My bad. I only found out now how old L was supposed to be. I assumed he was a teen from how he looked.82.125.53.47 21:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nevermind about the weight 

message: Do you guys want me to add a higher quality version of Mello's picture from the second opening as well? It has the MADHOUSE company name on it though. :( RyuuTaichou 21:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as you have permission from MADHOUSE to use the picture, then yeah go for it.  SuperDT 21:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mello 

message: Can we switch back to manga pictures of Mello, Near, and Mikami until they're actually shown clearly in the anime? The anime OP sequence's images of them aren't very clear, nor very representative of their appearance in the manga, at the very least, nor likely their final appearances in the anime. You can only see half of Near's head, and only half of Mello's face from the shadow, as well. Does anyone else agree/are there any objections? Nique talk 02:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures from the second anime OP 

message: His true birth name is L Lawliet. His date of birth is Halloween of 1989, making him notably OLDER than he appeared to have been. Shouldnt that be YOUNGER ? - Nytemyre 19:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's supposed to be 1979. --Pentasyllabic 19:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  L trivia 

message: Matsuda's anime picture is a tilted, unclear picture from a TV show within the anime, and isn't perfectly clear. Why it was chosen for the entry is beyond me.
As for Mello, the quality and size is too low. I suggest they are both replaced for better, clearer ones. --Delf 02:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anime pictures of Mello and Matsuda 

message: I've added most of the Japanese kana names for most of the character names that do not have them. I feel that it is necessary to add the kana in from the Japanese interwiki site. If there is a mistake, let me know here. Sjones23 19:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In some cases, like David Hoope, the kana really just aren't necessary. It's an entirely English name, romanized. Why should the kana be there on the English Wikipedia? Nique talk 20:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason is that the kana is really essential to all of the characters, except some companies and characters. Sjones23 20:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I should also note that I took them from the Japanese interwiki site, so I feel that it is necessary to add them to anime related articles. Sjones23 20:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I was not really impressed that the kana was removed. I am entirely against the removal of kana, unfortunately. Once again, I feel that adding any of the kana is necessary. If any of my comments were offensive, I apologize. Sjones23 20:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I was a little insulted by your comments (sorry). The kana is not an indiscriminate collection of information, it is necessary for all of this page, as with most of the anime articles. Once again, please accept my apologies. Sjones23 20:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I haven't done anything wrong, nor did I actually destroy anything. As I said before, the kana is really essential, as with most articles. :D All the best for May Sjones23 20:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Jaguara, SuperDT and anybody else want to throw a couple of ideas and things in? Thanks. Do not bite me, however, please. Sjones23 21:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: One more thing, I know "David Hoope" is an entirely romanized english name, but it doesn't have any kana, so the kana transliteration is necessary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sjones23 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I know how "David Hoope" supposed to sound in Japan. If any of you look at the Japanese manga, the Japanese interwiki site, or any other Japanese Death Note sources, you can actually see how his name is spelled in English and Japanese. If any of my previous comments were offensive, I apologize Sjones23 21:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with your comments. Once again, please accept my apologies. Thanks for the help on that. Sjones23 23:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Attempts to read wall of text, formatting, and strikethroughs* Okay, were 29 consecutive edits REALLY necessary here? Next time, instead of jumping to conclusions and acting like a martyr, just chill out, read what other people have to say, and reply, once, after a minute or three of thought. It's just a good thing I don't go through these edits one at a time to see what was changed! You don't have to confirm every little thing or add a new comment every time something pops into your head. Just think, write out EVERYTHING that's on your mind in ONE comment, and post that, and leave it at that until someone else posts a reply and gives you something new to ponder and agree or disagree with. This is a little off-topic, but your edit counts are ridiculous, and the amount of content that all those edits amounts to ("I agree, sorry for the misunderstanding.") makes the sheer number look more than a little ridiculous to me. Nique talk 01:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand now, Nique. I apologise. Thanks for your comments. They are totally appreciated. All the best. Sjones23 11:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Kana 

message: I saw David Hoope's name rendered in katakana as this: デヴィッド ホープ (Deviddo Hōpu) from the Japanese interwiki site, but it is only romanized as this: David Hoope. I have a few questions.  Does Hoope's name as well as some companies in the manga and anime exist in katakana or just simple English? Thanks. Sjones23 21:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks and all the best. Sjones23 19:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick Question 

message: Is it just my browser or does the auto-generated "Contents" on the top of Characters page not indented properly . First I thought the headings weren't proper but when I tried to edit it, they seem fine. Can someone look into this? eZio 15:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, eZio, it just may be your browser. I am not sure. Sjones23 20:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I'm getting the same thing. The main characters are indented properly, but below that it all just shows up on the first line. Nique talk 02:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well now its fine, and i checked the history, even the older pages seem fine. How did it get fixed? eZio 14:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Must have been something in the template for TOCs. At least it's working properly now! ^^ Nique talk 14:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are exactly right, Nique, it was something in the template. ^^ Sjones23 16:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contents

message: The link on "written his own name" doesn't actually go anywhere useful right now since somebody felt they should delete all the rules from the target page. 150.101.121.216 09:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reason it didn't go to the section proper is because the section was changed from 'Other Rules' to 'Other rules'. It now directs to the correct section, which just gives an explanation of the other rules, including the one relevant to that link as an example. Nique talk 14:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "written his own name" 

message: L technically uses this name as an alias, though he himself doesn't portray the person. --BiT 19:18, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not an alias, though. L doesn't appear as or claim to be Lind. He forces Lind to claim to be him. There's a big difference there. Nique talk 06:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: L took advantage of that person having, coincidentially, a middle name starting with the letter L. Considering Kira had no idea who L was or how he looked, such a small detail was great to use against him, as a sort of decoy. And whaddya know? Light took the bait. --Delf 18:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lind L. Taylor

message: Pictures removed, due to their lack of necessity, are:
:*Picture of Light with a siniter smile while hugging Misa; it bears no point whatsoever to the article, which is used to describe his character and plot elements of the story.
:*Light, looking evil after repossessing the Death Note. It is enough to mention in the article that he regains the notebook and his memories as Kira. There is no need to depic his evil smile. For that note, there is no need to depic everytime he smiles evilly...
:*Both pictures of L's death (falling down chair, closing eyes); a picture serves the purpose of showing him dying in the respective episode page (see List of Death Note episodes) while him falling down his chair is not critical enough for a place in the entry. Him dying is explained in this page.
::As it would appear, the episodes page has been stripped from pictures. Ergo, I've reinserted the picture of L dying in Light's arms, as it then granted validity.
:*Misa talking to Rem, as a picture of her anime persona is already available, and this one bears no point.
:*Rem standing over Jealous' remains is also an unecessary depictation of an event already explained in the article.
:*Picture of Reiji Namikawa from the anime; his anime persona, as well as the entire group's, are clearly shown in the group picture.
This page covers details well enough with words; pictures put all over it when none aren't really needed is kind of a bother. --Delf 18:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's harsh --BiT 18:44, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unecessary pictures?