Talk:Lea Michele

message: her father is of Spanish-Sephardic Jewish ancestry
sepharadic means "arab jew" and so it's from the "maghreb". There is no sepharadic jews in Spain but rather they come from the maghreb (tunisia, algeria, and morocco)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.97.198.50 (talk) 14:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, Sefardi means Iberian, but I think Spanish is an over specification, as there were little differences between various Iberian communities prior to the Expulsion of 1492. However, in this case it might mean that her father is actually from Spain, which is rare for most Sefardim today. Just like most Ashkenasim are not from Germany anymore (Ashkenas = Germany in Hebrew)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.144.26.242 (talk) 20:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ancestry 

message: I fail to see the encyclopedic value of including information about tattoos and cats. Just because "data" is sourcable to a reliable source doesnt mean that it should be included in an article. Active Banana   ( bananaphone 14:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree its not encyclopedic and more suited to a fanpage.--SabreBD (talk) 14:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of tattoos and cats 

message: Under Lea's film and television credits it says that lea is in glee from 2009 to 2012, however co-creator Brad Falchuk revealed at comic con 2011 that season 3 would infact not be Lea's last season, i include a link to a video which show glee co-creator brad falchuk clearly state that lea would not leave glee after season 3 and there fore she will be in glee till after 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSyAbCagsjY&feature=player_embedded  (start watching the video 2 mins 49 seconds into the video and brad makes it clear that lea will not be leaving glee as previously reported)
I therefore propose that in lea's tv credits the year for glee should be changed from '2009 - 2012' to '2009 - '  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hahjafhkjfhkj (talk • contribs) 00:52, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, the credits should not have an end date until it actually happens and done now Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake on page!!!!!! 

message: Shouldn't she be Spanish-American too?  Jewish people need to decide whether it's a religion or an ethnicity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.222.238.38 (talk) 22:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, she's not Spanish. While Sefardi (Iberian) Jews lived in Spain for over millenium and a half, that all ended in 1492, when they were expelled from Spain. Since which time few if any Jews lived there. Also, her fathers last name means French (in Hebrew) which implies that his ansestors came to Spain from France (or more likely Provance). On the issue of Jewish identity, we decided a long time ago, that we are a people. As such, while we do have a national religion, it is not practiced by everyone. There are Jews practicing most other religions without losing their status as such. Unlike other nations, we consider being born to a Jewish mother to be a minimum requirement for natural membership. Someone not born Jewish can join by converting to the national religion.  216.144.26.242 (talk) 20:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

text: No. In this case Spanish is a Nationality/country of origin of her father, not an ethnicity since Sephardi is considered a different ethnicity from that of Spanish. Would the Jews that escaped from the Nazis be German-Americans even though that's the country/nationality they came from?--Anen87 (talk) 00:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

text: So I would think that the category for 'Americans of Spanish descent' should be removed. The only thing the links that are purported to support this assertion say is that her father is of Sephardic Jew descent. Not Spanish. Depor23 (talk) 07:07, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish? 

message: Please update the main photo for this article. Right now, it's from over a year ago. It would be so much more relevant for readers to see a recent photo of Lea for the main photo. This link will take you to a photo of Lea that she posted on her Twitter at the 2011 Emmy Awards on September 18, 2011 - http://twitter.com/#!/msleamichele/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyfrog.com%2Fh3k2bzxj Please take this into consideration. I think it's important for the main photo to be recent  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tedroxie0222 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Photo 

message: The information "| partner =  Cory Monteith (2012-2013; his death)" keeps being removed from Michele's Infobox. It was removed, reverted and then reverted again which means the issue comes to the Talk Page to be decided. 
So the question is was Monteith considered Michele's "partner" (meaning a committed relationship) or did they casually date? I'm sure that Michele's fans have a better idea of the state of the relationship than I do, so please weigh in. This delete also seems to be going on on the Cory Monteith article. Liz Read! Talk! 20:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You make it sound like I am censoring the article. I am not. The infobox guidelines clearly states: "For unmarried life partners". The article does not state that they did anything more than dating. Nymf (talk) 20:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't seen any reliable source that states that the two had reached the stage of becoming life partners. Absent such a source—which should be included in the article, if found—I don't see that the infobox can be justifiably include this field. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Recently on ellen, she discussed her relationship with Cdory. Not sure if this is a "reliable source", but it is certainly worth noting. Bojo1498 (talk) 22:08, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cory Monteith 

message: I think that her song was great. Include somewhere? See the publication. My very best wishes (talk) 04:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Song in animated movie

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message: I the aftermath of the disappearance of Naya Rivera, Lea deactivated her twitter account due to harassment and trolling. If it was considered relevant enough to be reported on Naya's article, would it be relevant enough to be reported here as part of the controversy around her? Not A Superhero (talk) 05:54, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deactivated twitter account 

message: 82.2.224.18 (talk) 21:58, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deauthorized. (talk) 22:23, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2021 

message: Parispv (talk) 02:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2022 

message: The rumor/conspiracy about Michele's literacy is widely discussion and well sourced, including her making a statement on the situation in the NYT in addition to WP:BUZZFEEDNEWS and WP:RSPDEADLINE covering the topic. It is well deserving of inclusion in the article and is far from "Totally irrelevant". Cerebral726 (talk) 12:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that you consider a stupid internet meme to be an important part of an actress's "personal life" is really weird. Parispv (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wikipedia article is supposed to reflect the available sources. Numerous reliable sources including an interview in the NYT, Deadline, and BuzzfeedNews all discuss extensively the rumor. It is completely WP:DUE, and that fact you find it to be a "stupid" internet meme or "weird" is not a valid reason to consistently blank it from the page, nor remove the headers. Cerebral726 (talk) 02:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Do you have any policy based arguments on why the addition should not be on the page? If your primary concern is it's location in "personal life" I would be fine with creating a "Public image" section for the literacy, bullying, and philanthropy parts of the article. Cerebral726 (talk) 12:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Although she has talked about it, it is not relevant enough to belong in one person's life. In that case, you should create an additional page where that conspiracy theory is discussed. Parispv (talk) 23:38, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What specific justification do you have to think it is not relevant enough to include on this page despite the number of reliable sources that have discussed it: [and more below]? An article has to have WP:DUE coverage of all major aspects of the subject, and a small paragraph on her literacy is needed to meet that standard. I do not believe this topic deserves it's own article, as it is not a large enough subject or distinct enough from the life of Lea Michele to meet the needs for it's own article. It would be nonsensical to start an article that would inevitably be merged. Cerebral726 (talk) 12:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Response to third opinion request:
Based on the below, it appears there's plenty of independent news coverage of this in reliable sources, and as such, it is relevant enough for inclusion, and perhaps even more relevant considering her line of work. For those who disagree, you're welcome to pursue other forms of dispute resolution. DonIago (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

text: , thanks for your help. Would you be willing to weigh in on the related topic if there should be subheadings for the "Personal life" section . Seems like a fairly clear net benefit to me. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:47, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literacy 

message: Since it has been switched around recently I wanted to start a discussion. The two options that are not clear copyright violations are on the right below. Relevant pings:  
File:Lea Michele Comic Con by Gage Skidmore.jpg|Option A from 2015
File:LeaMichele.jpg|Option B from 2022
File:LeaMichele2.jpg|Option C from 2022
*Option A is my vote. While Option B is much more recent, her appearance has not changed significantly in the last 7 years. Option B is not as flat, focused (shallow depth of field for artistic photos aren't as useful in an encyclopedic context), or well lit a photo for the intended purpose. Cerebral726 (talk) 19:38, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me! Wiki-nPhoenix (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo choice 

message: , can you explain why you do not think there should be headers in the personal life section? It is pretty standard when there are a number of disparate paragraphs that are lengthy to include subheaders for easy navigation. Cerebral726 (talk) 21:08, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Cerebral726 In this case, headers are not necessary since the information is too short to separate it into sections. Parispv (talk) 05:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

text: In this case, headers are not necessary since the information is too short to separate it into sections. Parispv (talk) 05:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: At MOS:OVERSECTION, it states "Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading." The 3 subsections I introduced were either two short paragraphs or one very large paragraph each, which hardly seems too short to separate into subsections, and is plenty in line with similar sections in other articles. Additionally, in one of your edit descriptions you said "Illiteracy? As if she really was." I want to clarify the section header I introduced for that one was "Literacy" not "Illiteracy". Cerebral726 (talk) 13:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's necessary to separate with subtitles having such short information and with such irrelevant titles, like "Literacy" implying as if the actress really didn't know how to read, it seems like a joke. Parispv (talk) 07:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headers 

message: , which specific aspects of that section you tagged do you consider misinterpretations? Cerebral726 (talk) 19:34, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite Check 

message: , could you be more specific about your concerns, either here on the talk page or by using "Template:Unreliable source?" inline? Tagging at the article level when the article has 182 sources doesn't make it easy for any other editor to try to address your concerns. Schazjmd (talk) 19:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, I am referring to there being a reference to BuzzFeed, which is a source known for being unreliable. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 20:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @NintendoTTTEfan2005, there are two BuzzFeed News refs; BuzzFeed News is generally reliable. Schazjmd (talk) 20:57, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I didn't know that BuzzFeed and BuzzFeed News were separate. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Unreliable sources"