Talk:On the Lot

message: they are currently interviewing potential contestants all over.. is that notable information?
on the lot is an awesome show.
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Provocal 19:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early comments 

message: So now that the show has begun should someone start an elimination chart on the page like on the American Idol season pages? --Fez2005 05:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An elimination chart would be nice, once the number of contestants gets down to a more manageable number. -- MisterHand 11:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the number of contestants now, which is 18, is now "down to a more manageable number."  I will try to copy American Idol (season 6)'s elimination chart into this article and edit it to match the sources that I find and I will cite.  OK?  --luckymustard 13:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elimination chart 

message: I added the "response" section. If anybody knows how to add a reference, the ratings are on several pages, but here is one that can be linked to: http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003589073 Badgergrl04
Added second show ratings. Man, will this show last through the summer, or are we gonna have to watch that Survivor Pirate ripoff instead? Boo...
Badgergrl04
Now added the fourth episode's ratings. does /6 mean that ratings are improving? In any event, Fox won the night, so perhaps this show has some life left in it.Badgergrl04 22:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings 

message: I forget his name, but the guy who made the 911 burgled film had 1 long hair sticking off his head sideways, I just kept staring at it...... 65.93.59.167 01:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Paul/Peter

message: Correct me if I'm wrong (maybe I missed an episode?), but did they completely skip showing the results of the 1-page script challenge? I saw what I believe was the end of episode 2 which was about 5 or 10 minutes of the contestants beginning to shoot on the sets, and it appeared as though they would have another episode covering the one-page challenge, but then I tuned in this week and they were already down to 18 and they had already made their first film. Did I miss an ep? TheHYPO 03:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, at the time I made the edit the information could not be validated, but now it's all there so it can be added back in. -- MisterHand 14:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I think it would be a good idea to start a "reception" section, based off of all the reception this show has received. Did Spielberg's ghost-like appearance effect the show's initial success? Were there one-too-many fart and pee jokes in the comedy shorts? How will viewer voting effect the quality of the show?
There are numerous news articles on ratings, quality of show, possible rip-off from Project Runway, etc. Also, Vote for the Worst has been encouraging voting for Kenny (I added this to VFTW's page).
If nobody feels like starting this, I'll take care of it tonight. I somehow predict that this section will eventually end with "The show was canceled June ??, 2007 due to low ratings and marketability."Badgergrl04
:As long as things are well-cited (in other words, we don't mask our own personal opinions with "some fans think...") this should be a good addition. -- MisterHand 20:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception!

message: this aticle on Carrie Fisher implies that every judge we've seen so far is a "guest judge" ("Other guest judges on the show include directors Brett Ratner ("Rush Hour 3"), Garry Marshall ("Georgia Rule") and Jon Avnet ("Risky Business").")
Not sure if this is going to hold true, but perhaps ratner should not be listed seperately in the aritcle as a "guest judge" TheHYPO 21:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Judges

message: Didn't they mention on the show that three people would be eliminated this week? Wouldn't that make the current elimination chart not work very well? I personally think that this article needs a chart a little more like the American Idol chart in the individual season articles (actually just 4, 5, and 6). Also, the AI charts use the date of ELIMINATION, not the date of the performances like the one in this article does. Mjmclemore, 29 May 2007
:Yes. Three will be eliminated. That means three people will be tied for 16th place. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that 3 a week won't be the constant elimination every time. My only issue is that I'm pretty sure they won't list the results of the voting in full, so we won't be able to have a chart that ranks all 18 finalist's in voting. The chart is easily changable if, in coming weeks, the system doesn't work. TheHYPO 23:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart needs revision 

message: Was it made clear that the two people from each group that were singled out to be eliminated (eg: Kenny and Claudia) were collectively the 6 lowest vote-getters? Would it be accurate to list Kenny, Jessica, and Marty as part of the bottom 6 (along with the three eliminated)? TheHYPO 04:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I don't think it was clear. It's possible but I think that would count as speculation or original research. --Pixelface 05:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. We'll see if it's any clearer on the show's site in recaps but it should stay out until then TheHYPO 05:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the information. I thought it was unlikely that Marty got bottom 3 after being so heavily featured in the preliminary episodes TheHYPO 20:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bottom 6"? 

message: Due to abysmal ratings and lackluster reviews, On the Lot has been degraded to a screening/results show Tuesday loop, with reruns commanding the Monday slot. The "Week 2" section has been updated to reflect this change. Wow, we didn't see this coming. How much you wanna bet that the "Tuesday" show becomes the "Friday night death slot" show after next week's ratings failure?Badgergrl04 16:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Week 2 and beyond

message: I still think the semi-finalists section needs to go. There are two major problems with it:
#These individuals are not notable, within the context of the show or otherwise. Most were not shown or mentioned on television. There were earlier objections that they might somehow become notable over time, but that hasn't happened.
#The article gives last names for the individuals. But the source does not. We shouldn't be offering up unsourced information on living people.
Any objections to its removal or other comments to add? -- MisterHand 14:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The list of semi-finalists has a source, so it's verifiable. I suppose the last names could be removed since they're unsourced. If you don't like the list, we could put the names in a hidden table (by using class="wikitable collapsible collapsed"). The people may not be notable enough to each have their own articles, but their film submissions got them on the show, out of 12,000 others. I suggest the "Final 18" be sectioned off from the rest though. --Pixelface 21:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I should note that American Idol (season 3), and a few other seasons DO list semi-finalists (that article lists 32 of them, but they were all in voting episodes, and separated into groups, each performing). That said, I see no use for the semi-finalists here. "Notable" doesn't mean that they beat out 12,000 other people. 50 out of 12,000 people is about half a percent. We don't have articles for the richest half a percent of the earths population just because they have more money than the other 99.5% of the group, unless they actually have achieved some notability. To me, these semi-finalists have no real notablility - ie: noone would ever look up this article to find the names of semi-finalists (who didn't make it). If there are any semi-finalists who become or are notable in the industry, I don't see why there couldn't simply be a note "Among the 50 semi-finalists were [director of blah], [name]; [director of snuh], [name]... etc." I'd like to see it gone. I see no good reason for it being in the article. TheHYPO 06:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It's done. I think the article flows a lot better now. -- MisterHand 18:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-Finalists revisited 

message: First off - if noone has anything AGAINST changing the elim box (noone has commented on it in a few days), I'm going to change it to reflect tonight's episode. If there's an issue, I'm happy to discuss it, but let's not get into a revert war.
Secondly, does anyone think it's worth mentioning how the show seems to have its own pool of acting talent available to the directors, observable since many recur each week (including Patrick Kerr - Noel Shempsky from Frasier, and both James Avery and Tatyana Ali from Fresh Price of Bel Air) - the old woman from the Sperm Bank film tonight was also the "sponsor" in one of the semi-final Out of Time films, among other recurring cast. TheHYPO 02:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like how you updated the box.  However, should the green top 3 from week 1 even have the green at all?  It appears they were in their own group (that isn't in the legend).  Also, the Round of 18 eliminations might work better in a color different than the same tan used in round of 15.  Finally, a short note about the recurring use of the same actors would help explain how they get actors so fast for their movies.  --Mtjaws 03:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elim box, show cast? 

message: Looking at the credits on a few episodes, I've come up with a list of some of the recurring actors on the show and which short films I think they have appeared in. Ones I'm unsure of I've italicized:
Actors that have appeared in multiple short films:
*Bayne Gibby - Organized Crime (organ buyer), Under The Gun (daughter robber), Anklebiters (mom), The Legend of Donkey-Tail Willie, American Hoe (woman)
*David Burtka (imdb) - Timeout (man who wants the hat), Discovering The Wheels (caveman), Open House? (father?), Worldly Possession (husband), The Losers, Keep Off Grass (gardener), Driving Under The Influence, Army Guy
*Erin Cahill (imdb) - Out Of Time 1 (woman), Open House (pregnant woman), Spaghetti (woman), Sweet, The Bonus Feature, Bonus Feature Two, Dress For Success
*Frederick Koehler (imdb) - Ding (gambler), Discovering The Wheels (caveman), The Malibu Myth (guy driving), The Legend of Donkey-Tail Willie (Donkey-Tail Willie), Zero2Sixty, Girl Trouble (Trent), Backseat Driving Test, The Yes Men (Anderson)
*Greg Collins (imdb) - Road Rage 101 (trucker), The Yes Men (Mr. Stone)
*Jackie Tohn (imdb) - Smile (woman with cigarette), Discovering The Wheels (cavewoman), The Malibu Myth (woman in car), The Legend of Donkey-Tail Willie (woman with donkey ears), Catch
*Janet Varney (imdb) - Random Acts of Kindness (kind woman), Die Hardly Working (female officeworker), Eternal Waters (mother), Worldly Possession (wife), The Losers, Keep Off Grass (female superhero), Dress For Success (Janet)
*Jonathan Chase - The Bonus Feature, Bonus Feature Two
*Joy Osmanski (imdb) - Timeout (woman shopper), First Sight (friend)
*Kimberly Aileen Scott (imdb) - Sponsored By, Under The Gun, Open House, Time Upon A Once
*Kirk Zipfel (imdb) - Out of Time 1, Nerve Endings (intern), First Sight (man with clipboard), Sweet, American Hoe (man), Road Rage 101, The Yes Men
*Lin Shaye (imdb) - Sponsored By (suicide sponsor), Under The Gun (mother robber), Midnight Snack (makes a snack), Time Upon A Once, Old Home Boyz, Backseat Driving Test, The Yes Men (Marge)
*Patrick Kerr (imdb) - Random Acts of Kindness (can collector), Die Hardly Working (co-worker shot by arrow), Anklebiters? (detective?), Time Upon A Once, The Losers, Girl Trouble (Patricia), Driving Under The Influence, Oh, Boy. (Jim Corkman)
*Randall Park (imdb) - Smile (photographer), Die Hardly Working (bow and arrow coworker), Eternal Waters? (burglar?), Worldly Possession? (military delivery guy?), Zero2Sixty, Unplugged (male co-worker), The Move, The Yes Men
*Reginald VelJohnson (imdb) - Reverse (psychic), Nerve Endings (doctor), Time Upon A Once (neighbor)
*Rich Pierrelouis - Vinny's Vault (Lenny), Profile (driver), Key Witness, The Move
*Tatyana Ali (imdb) - Wilted (shop owner), How To Have A Girl (woman), The Malibu Myth (zombie laying on road), First Sight (woman who puts on glasses), Unplugged (female co-worker), Driving Under The Influence (cop), Dress For Success
*Todd Waring (imdb) - Wilted (palmreader), Dr. In Law (doctor), Spaghetti (cowboy), Catch, Keep Off Grass (male superhero), Backseat Driving Test, Oh, Boy. (Mr. Smith)
*Travis Wester (imdb) - Call Waiting, How To Have A Girl (man), Profile (cop), Spaghetti (man with cellphone), Key Witness, Girl Trouble (Fitz), The Yes Men (Thompson)
These are actors that have appeared in only one short film as far as I can tell:
*Christine Barger (as Christine Bargar) (imdb) - Dress For Success (Jenny)
*David Barrera (imdb) - Organized Crime (organ finder)
*Christopher Bradley (imdb) - Dress For Success (Mr. Calloway)
*Richard Carmen (imdb) - Dance With The Devil (crime boss)
*Oscar Dillon (imdb) - Oh, Boy. (Neighbor)
*Dan Gauthier (imdb) - Army Guy (Sgt. Joe)
*Keeshan Giles (imdb) - The Yes Men
*Jaman Lloyd (imdb) - Danger Zone (safety supervisor)
*Jerry O'Connell - The Move
*Lesli Margherita (imdb) - Ding (female boxer)
*Stuart McLean (imdb) - Army Guy (Demetri)
*Cara Santana (imdb) - Call Waiting
*Terry Shusta (imdb) - Lucky Penny (guy who finds lucky penny, Dale)
*Eric Stonestreet (imdb) - Vinny's Vault (George)
*Camden Toy (imdb) - First Sight (Baba, the old blind man)
*Heather Vandeven (imdb) - Army Guy (Candi)
*Allan Wasserman (imdb) - Old Home Boyz (older Carl)
*Jamison Yang (imdb) - Dr. In Law
These are actors that have appeared in more than one short film but I am unsure of their names:
*Guy who gets slapped on the butt in Dress For Success - Die Hardly Working, Dress For Success
This information might best fit on the List of On the Lot films article. It's verifiable by looking at their IMDB photo and watching the short films. Actors are also sometimes shown on the show with their names below. If we include the info in the article, we could probably just include the recurring actors' names and the films, leaving out the roles. Or we could just list the actors. I've already listed some of the short films on the actors' articles. What does everyone think? --Pixelface 23:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recurring cast

message: Numerous times during the finale, the host stressed that it was the season finale, not the series finale.  Anyone have a source for it's official cancellation?- yoshirox10
I can't find proof its canceled  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.84.9.105 (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been a couple years since the last episode so it's probably safe to say it's cancelled or at the very least on hiatus.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.117.40 (talk) 22:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cancellation 

message: There was an additional selection phase (I believe) that consisted of a number of people who were enlisted to make a short film in 7 days, (larger group than the 50 finalists, although the finalists were included in this process) who were then interviewed in person at at least one or two locations for potential inclusion in the show.  It was from this process that the final 50 were selected.  I'm not sure that is worth mentioning but I thought I bring it up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip.mark.powell (talk • contribs) 23:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional selection phase