Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia logos

message: Discussion and Petition still ongoing... --Quiddity 18:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character errors in Logo 

message: Anyone know what the font for the Wikipedia logo is?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.171.7.6 (talk • contribs).
: I assume it's Garamond or Cloister, but check with others. Mabuse 17:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hoefler Text. --Kjoonlee 11:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Font? 

message: Can anyone tell me why is the Chinese character on the logo "祖"? --Voidvector 09:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it isn't 祖 but 袓. I don't know why, though. --Kjoonlee 11:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great, a character that has fallen out of common usage. I thought it was 祖 cause that was written on Wikipe-tan. --Voidvector 12:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Jumping into a 5 year old discussion to say that the character has not ‘fallen out of common usage’ – 祖父 and 祖母 are the words for ‘Grandfather’ and ‘Grandmother‘ in many dialects of Chinese, and I'm sure the character is used in other words too. Pokepal101 (talk) 03:28, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

text:  According to an article in the NY Times (see the archives of WP:SIGNPOST for a link), some letters were chosen because they are pronounced similar to "Wi" and some letters were chosen because they look interesting. Since 袓 isn't pronounced similar to "Wi" in any of the languages I know, I guess it was chosen because it looks interesting. --Kjoonlee 17:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I strongly recommend the character 维, the first character in the Chinese phrase 维基百科 (Wikipedia) instead of this confusing 祖.--尖尖的鹿角 (talk) 11:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the Chinese character "祖"? 

message: Does anyone know what the text in :Image:Old wikipedia logo.png is taken from? - BanyanTree 08:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original contributor (2002!) is still editing, I'd ask him. --Quiddity 16:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not 100% that the uploader is the creator, since the description implies that it was created pre-2001, but I've asked  if he can drop in and enlighten us.  Cheers, BanyanTree 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It seems it's Bjørn Smestad. Found it while browsing through Nupedia archived pages in Wayback Machine site. In this archived page of submitted logos from Nupedia site says at the bottom "Logo ideas posted with permission of their designers. Click on a logo to go to its designer's website." Image link in that page is pointing to this archived page: "Assistant Professor Bjørn Smestad". Didn't found any account in english Wikipedia with his name. May be he was only involved in Nupedia project. Mosca (talk) 08:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, I just realized today that the logo I submitted that many years ago were ever used for anything at all... I am amazed. I must admit I was never much involved in either Nupedia or Wikipedia. The text of the quote is from Lewis Carroll's "Euclid and his Modern Rivals".  Bjornsm (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text of original logo 

message: We need a new favicon in my opinion. This one looks kind of boring. We need something like a smaller version of the current puzzle logo, but with a W in the middle or to the side. Any comments would be helpful.–Sidious1701(talk • email • todo) 23:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Favicon 

message: This has been bugging me for a while, but if you look at the edges of the Wiki "globe" in the corner of the screen there, you'll notice a jaggy white border. Compare this to German or French wikis, and you can see what I'm talking about. I don't have either the imaging know-how or the privileges to fix it myself, but surely someone does? Justme8800 23:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smoothing the logo? 

message: There is currently a thread on the foundation mailing list, discussing both a 3d version of the globe with the hidden pieces filled in, as well as the problems seen in the current logo. Just a heads up. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 18:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mailing list 3d discussion 

message: Does anyone know if the puzzle logo was inspired by a very similar image in Scott McCloud's 2000 Reinventing Comics? (I'm guessing not, given discussion above, but I'm curious. Anyone?) Thmazing (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott McCloud 

message: Please participate in the discussion at meta:Talk:Wikipedia/Logo, which has official support, and appears to be moving forward. -- Quiddity (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renewing discussion 

message: Why there is "Й" in the logo? It means "j", not "w"! Kubek15]]$4 (Sign!) (Contribs) (UBX) 12:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why there is "Й" in the logo? 

message: In the current logo, the devnagari script, which is used for languages like sanskrit, hindi, marati etc., is not shown in the correct way. Please correct it .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.113.218 (talk) 15:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devnagari is not correct in the logo 

message: The Indic text on the center-left side of the logo is NOT correctly formed.  It shows the ि trailing to the right of the character when it should in fact be attached to the character to the LEFT of it, like this:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2415/78634251.jpg
GSMR (talk) 15:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem 

message: Title above says it all.  Why not eh? 203.219.156.86 (talk) 10:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bottom left 'unknown' character - replace it with something Klingon! 

message: The 3d model constructed for the new logo should be available in the name of openness! Where can i find it? --Beao 19:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the 3D model file? 

message: Given that no one on the Wikipedia payroll will admit that there is anything valuable, or anything at all for that matter, inside the puzzle globe, and given further that one (i.e., yours truly) does not see any Elvish on the globe, one is left to assume that one or more Cabals have conspired to hide all the Elvish on the inside. For shame! (Seriously, though, include Klingon but not Elivish?! Who forgot the Elvish?) kcylsnavS (kalt) 22:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Klingon is no longer on the globe anyway.  Powers T 23:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well it's OK with me to put Klingon on the en.w globe. Just put Elvish on with it. (My opinions on this matter are not to be construed as an admission that I've every read anything by Tolkien. Not into fantasy: SF rules.) kcylsnavS (kalt) 23:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elvish 

message: Like German [], Italian [], Portugese [] and French [] Wikipedias, as of the signing of this comment. Even http://wikipedia.org/ [] has the old olgo in the centre. Is this the way it should be? It seems like the new logo just for "testing out" in English Wikipedia... =D • 02:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: table removed since now it is included in the page, to prevent duplication of effort/maintenance --Waldir talk 18:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

text: The main list of updated logos is at commons:Wikipedia/2.0‎, and the main discussions about the new logo are primarily at commons:Talk:Wikipedia/2.0‎, and here at WP:VPT#New logo. HTH. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo not updated in (at least a few) Wikipedias in others languages 

message: I've completed the table with the characters of the old logo. Now all of them have images for illustration, in case the reader doesn't have the appropriate fonts to render the texts.
However, there's still one character that resists identification: the one on the lower left corner. Can you find out anything about that? --Waldir talk 11:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is ᡅ U+1845 on Mongolian script —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.88.82.94 (talk) 13:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! :D --Waldir talk 18:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lost character 

message: Hi. Not sure this is the right place, because this has nothing to do with the Wikipedia logo itself, instead to do with the little "W" icon you see in the address bar or next to tabs. If you look at this image, you can see that the Commons logo is without a background (looks darker because of the theme I'm using), while the Wikipedia logo is with a while square background. Wouldn't it be better if the background of the "W" icon could be removed too? Rehman 02:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the favicon; see :File:Wikipedia-favicon.png. Goodvac (talk) 06:42, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the above file actually the file that is currently used as the Wikipedia Favicon? If not, is it any one of these? Rehman 01:41, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Icon transparency 

message: Every time I open a new page, the logo moves from left to right, which slows down the opening time several seconds, each time. Is this part of the maintenance thing that was being mentioned yesterday, or is this permanent? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo moving 

message: What is the Usage guideline for the famous Puzzle Logo?--Sandbag for smash bros 4 (talk) 05:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See the links in the commons:Template:Copyright by Wikimedia template, particularly the FAQ at the bottom of the commons:Trademark policy page. HTH. –Quiddity (talk) 00:20, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo usage 

message: The section on the new logo has a table of the characters on the logo, including Armenian, Latin and Cyrillic "vev." Curiously, neither the Latin or Cyrillic letters are named "vev." What gives? 74.60.134.199 (talk) 11:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, this article is on the wrong side of the border to gibberish. It doesn't list the Unicode points supposed to be shown, it doesn't mirror the order of code points on its source for no obvious reason, and as you said it doesn't explain why g and the Cyril letter are tagged as vev. I  can only guess that this is no nonsense or even vandalism, but some kind of "phonetic wannabe-W-alike glyph sort order". The m:Logo history is less obscure. –Be..anyone (talk) 06:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

text: No problem! If there are still issues, let me know, or fix them yourself if you can :) --Waldir talk 19:07, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin and Cyrillic "vev?" 

message: Surely this logo should be in this internal Wikipedia page? I saw it when Wikipedia was celebrating its 5,000,000th article. If so, what sort of stuff should I put into this page? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 04:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  5,000,000 article celebration 

message: See:
http://hgwiki.net/Main_Page
--Kevjonesin (talk) 19:38, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia logo is in prominent use on HGwiki.net 

message: I just put this section onto , and only then checked the page history and saw that the previous entry was in June 2013, so the page isn't active and probably no one will see it there. So... pasting here.
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Wikipedia logo : § Current logo says
:The new logo was rolled out on the projects in May 2010. It features the new 3D rendering of the puzzle globe, with corrected characters (and the Klingon character replaced by a Ge'ez character).
The Ge'ez character is ው, U+12CD ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE WE."Ethiopic" here is the Unicode alias for Ge'ez; see Ge'ez script infobox and the opening sentence of Ge'ez language. [--thnidu] In the table in Ge'ez script#Ge'ez abugida it is in the second section of the table, second row (consonant Wäwe), sixth column (vowel ə [ɨ]), so it is pronounced [wɨ] (IPA), which is pretty close to the first syllable of "Wikipedia" in English. 
However, Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos : § The finalized logo : § Alphabets represented in the logo doesn't reflect that change, though a reader would expect "The finalized logo" to refer to the current one. The table of characters there (row 2, column 4, corresponding to the location on the jigsaw globe illustrated there) has
Klingon r ()This character is in the Private Use Area area of Unicode and may not display without the correct fonts. It is registered in the ConScript Unicode Registry, thus fonts which follow the CSUR should function correctly. [Footnote copied from Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos. The original uses Template:PUA, which I can't get to work here.* --thnidu]
I'm rather afraid to edit that table and section. Can someone else make the appropriate fix? 
--Thnidu (talk) 23:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Klingon replaced by Ge'ez 

message: Someone pointed out to me that there is a drawing made by the information scientist Paul Otlet (1868-1944) that looks eerily similar not only to the Wikipedia puzzle ball logo, but also to the front page. Check out this video at 1:11 link here. I still don't know the original source of the drawing but am attempting to track it down. If I understand correctly from WP:Wikipedia logos, the third logo was the first iteration of puzzle ball, with the vote going towards User:Paul Stansifer's design, then User:Nohat's modifications are what resulted in the "silver ball" or "silver puzzle ball" design that was accepted. So I'd like to ask Paul Stansifer and Nohat directly; were you aware of Paul Otlet or his drawings when you were constructing your designs? Or, does anyone else have information as to this possible origin? Hexatekin (talk) 18:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never heard of Paul Otlet or, to the best of my knowledge, ever seen any of his drawings. Nohat (talk) 06:26, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Otlet drawing  

message: 75px|left
While investigating the hypothetical question, I came across this talk page on French Wikipedia. It is unclear whether a final proposal for a coat of arms for Wikipedia was determined. In any case, I collected the images in the Commons category linked here.Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems highly hypothetical, and if it were about any other website or organization, I'm sure that we would have never mentioned this in the article without solid sources. I'll be bold and remove it again. effeietsanders 04:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coat of arms of Wikipedia? 

message: Is there a reason why the English Wikipedia's slogan ("The Free Encyclopedia") is rendered with each word capitalised? The other Wikipedias, to my knowledge, seem to have the slogan in sentence case (e.g. "L'encyclopédie libre" for French, "La enciclopedia libre" for Spanish, "L'enciclopedia libera" for Italian). It seems to me that the English version should also be rendered in the same way (i.e. as "The free encyclopedia"). RAVENPVFF | talk ~ 06:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Case style of slogan 

message: The article content now starts with: "Wikipedia's first true logo was an image that was originally submitted by Bjørn Smestad for a Nupedia logo competition which took place in 2000. Jimmy Wales (Jimbo) thought it would be a much better logo than the flag, and it remained for the next eight months". It briefly mentions 'the flag', but never actually states that 'the flag' (which probably refers to the American flag, which I heard more often being mentioned as the first file that was used as logo) was used as logo. Could someone confirm that this was indeed the case, and can we then make that explicit without keeping it this vague? effeietsanders 04:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: I just had a thought as we are approaching the 20th anniversary - do we want to add a puzzle piece to the globe to celebrate 20 years of building this repository? VanIsaacWScont 09:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: As a suggestion the Tocharian syllable "Wi"  would be interesting in terms of its appearance, the history of Tocharian within Indo-European language studies, as well as demonstrating the alternate "Fremdzeichen" letterforms of Tocharian not found in other Brahmi-derived scripts. The piece could go to the right of the Ge'ez (Ethiopic) "wə", so that the new piece would be barely visible, but the marking would only be seen from alternate views. VanIsaacWScont 05:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  20th Anniversary coming up 

message: I have two questions about the logo on Wikipedia.
#The logo, where it says "WIKIPEDIA The Free Encyclopedia," I noticed that the word WIKIPEDIA is probably written in an all caps font, usually the shorter letters are technically the lowercase ones. Is it written as "WikipediA" in HTML text, with a capital A at the end? It could be true, because there is a redirect to Wikipedia at WikipediA.
#Does each character on the Wikipedia sphere stand for the first letter of Wikipedia in each language? Probably not, since Greek Ω is on the list, but the Greek word for Wikipedia is Βικιπαιδια. In any case, please answer my questions if you have time, and thank you. Gioguch (talk) 03:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Wikipedia logo 

message: I can't find any documentation on the Three-Layered Cake Logo that I see on the meta home page. I'm guessing its an image for the 20th anniversary of Wikipedia. But the W atop the cake looks suspiciously like a crown, the frosting looks like yellow hair, and the two red candies look like eyes. And the way the frosting is dripping suggests melting... So what I also see is a certain famous political figure with royal ambitions melting into a hole following the 2020 elections. I realize Wikipedia is politically-neutral, but still, as an news-obsessed American, am I reading too much into this image? Thanks Happy temporizer (talk) 18:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three-Layered Cake Logo on Wikipedia Home Page - Melting Trump or 20th Anniversary of Wikipedia? 

message: Anyway, I realized some accidental un-capitalization. I fixed those. Continue this page if you edit too. 22:23, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits