Template talk:Infobox film/Archive 4

message: :Reading through the above comments, it doesn't seem like there is a consensus at all to add Rotten Tomatoes to the INFOBOX. I'd like to add my opposition along with Ibaranoff24 and  K1Bond007.  Of the recommended review sources mentioned (IMDB, AMG, Metacritic), I find Rotten Tomatoes to be the most unreliable of all.  For one, it only takes a sampling of a very small percentage of film critics, few of whom are particularly well known or notable in any particular way.  Worse, that site will frequently list a review as favorable when the actual critique can be mixed or even negative in tone.  I'm personally against linking to any of these mass-review sites because they are inherently POV due to the selective nature of the chosen reviews.  I think both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic can easily give a deceptive overview of a particular film's general critical consensus.  I'd much rather have a link added to All Movie Guide, which offers brief, starred reviews of films; their sister site, All Music Guide, is frequently used as a source for CD reviews in wiki album INFOBOXES.  Other reviews (both negative and positive) can be sourced in the film's article to give the reader a feel for the critical response the film received.  If the reader wants to read further reviews, he/she can research the Movie Review Query Engine () if so inclined; unlike Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic, that site can list hundreds of reviews, from all sorts of different sources (from the New York Times to obscure bloggers).Hal Raglan 15:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: AMG is ridiculously error-ridden, and much less amenable to correction than IMDb.  Neither one, nor any other movie website, however, should be treated as anything more than just additional reference resources, since none are in any way reliable about how or where they accrue their "data".  Much of it is fan provided, and often can be found to have been taken from earlier, print works, not necessarily accurate themselves.  12.73.195.203 00:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposition to Adding Rotten Tomatoes 

message: I think that in the infobox, it would be good to have little thumbnails of Oscar statuettes, one for each win, a faded out one for each nomination ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 08:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oscars 

message: I strongly feel that the MPAA Film Ratings should be put in the infobox for each film.Mollymoon 01:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an international encyclopedia, not an American one. However, ratings can be found on some pages. See Halloween (film) and Richard III (1955 film) for ideas as to how to put the classification in the article ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 04:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He might have a point... but if we put in MPAA it is our obligation to include all of the other ones as well.  I'm not sure that this is necessary, though, since there's already a link to IMDB in the infobox, and you can find all of the ratings over there. Esn 05:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh the irony this is for me. I came across an orphaned template and put it up for TfD, but somehow ended up improving it, and now it looks like it will go for a keep.  Sure though, seems there is a demand for it.. It's a template for international film ratings: Template:Infobox movie certificates. See Cowboy Bebop: The Movie for an example of it in action. Hope that helps. -- Ned Scott 06:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now, that's a good template. ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 00:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, that's a good template.  Although the font size at the very top might be a bit too big... in any case, though, it's definitely prefferable to having it in the main infobox, I think.  Is there any info on your template on the WikiProject Films page yet? Esn 01:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, I have another comment... why are only certain countries and not others hyperlinked, and what if a film has a different rating in the different regions of Belgium (there are French/English/German-speaking regions, I think)? Esn 01:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a bit of an orphaned template when I found it.  I only edited it so it wasn't so chunky and the variables were optional (as in, it only displays countries when you input a rating for it). Other people, long before me, put in hyperlinks to articles that were about that countries movie ratings. I haven't yet taken the time myself to look for similar articles for the rest of the countries.  As for countries with more than one rating system, Canada is actually on there twice, once as "Canada" and again as "Quebec", so I guess that would be ok to do it for other countries as well.   And I just left a note on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films about the template, I'm not sure if they knew about it before (probably not, since, like I said, it was an almost-orphan before). -- Ned Scott 05:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The argument that Wikipedia is an international encyclopaedia, and therefore either we should put all the ratings systems in or none, is a complete red-hearing. Just because the MPAA system is American doesn't mean the MPAA ratings are of significance only to Americans. The fact is, films released in the USA primarily target a US market, and the pressure studios exert for a film to make a PG-13 rating are enormous. The rating of a film should be listed on the page, as it has massive, overwhelming influence on the production of the film and its cultural significance.128.6.75.112 (talk) 18:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  MPAA Ratings 

message: I want to add an "alt text" parameter for infobox images, but I'm not sure of the syntax. Is 

 going to do it? I want it to use the "alt text" if specified, failing that the "caption", failing that the article name. (In most cases, there is no reason for the image to have a caption.) 
—wwoods 19:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative text for images 

message: How about an entry for the Art Director? In some films (especially animation), this is a very important role, much more important than editor or cinematographer, and often even more important than the cast members (Triplets of Belleville (2003), for example, has almost no dialogue). Esn 02:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Art Director