Talk:DVD Decrypter

message: On June 13, 2005, DVD Decrypter is back online. In his best interests, he has decided to start work on DVD Decrypter again, but he has lost all of his programmers. The DVD Decrypter site is back up at dvddecrypter.r8.org
For more information please read the following:
* http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=139073&page=4&pp=25
* http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95485&page=6&pp=20
* http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95988
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.79.218 (talk • contribs) 17 June 2005
: Yes, I think the "If anyone knows C++/C+..." is a dead give-away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.25.175.97 (talk • contribs) 23 June 2005
There are links to this page for people who are told to use DVD Decrypter to copy DVDs to their computer hard drive for playing using only their computer.  However, this site contains only legaleze and computer/Geek jargon and is of no use to ordinary people trying to play their DVDs.
Please either explain how to use DVD Decrypter or have a link to a site that does, using normal English.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.48.73 (talk) 10:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Last version

message: is or was freeware?? --145.99.202.90 11:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Freeware

message: Should there be any mention to ImgBurn? 
As I'm sure you all know, DVD Decrypter was shut down due to legal reasons. Not wanting to waste all my hard work, I'd like to introduce you to ImgBurn! - (Say hello ImgBurn) - "Hello" :o)
ImgBurn is an enhanced version of the 3.5.4.0 burn engine - and it will continue to get better and better as time goes on.
Like it says, it seems to be just the burning part.
Also, it would be nice if we gave alternatives to DVD Decrypter for making DVD video backups; preferably free Software developed in a "safe" country ;) Artemis3 20:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But does it actually use the DVD Decrypter engine or not. If not, adding a link would just be advertisement as it has nothing to do with the article. Remember this is an encyclopedia and not a list of links. Mushintalk 21:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps, but a tiny mention that ImgBurn has descendant code from DVD Decrypter might be ok for technical or informational reasons (keep it dry and clinical without any extra weasel words or marketing speak). I wouldn't call it a successor or anything nor even expand beyond that mention. It can be done if the editor is disciplined enough to be concise.--ThePenciler (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: ImgBurn

message: Does it damage the quality of the original DVD? —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Chompiras (talk • contribs) 29 January 2006
:Please sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~) so we can see who left it! If the original DVD is not scratched or damaged, then the image produced will be identical to that of the disc itself. I suggest using a google search or forum for future questions, as wikipedia should not be used as a message board. Thanks. Mushintalk 14:41, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: In order to bring this article into compliance with the law I removed certain links it contained.  Someone with more knowledge or permissions (a sysop or whatever the title is) should remove all the links from the stored previous versions of the article.
I did not remove links from this (Discussion) page because I don't think its kosher to remove other people's commentaries.  That should be done by someone with "authority".  I've had comments I've made removed by, I shall put it kindly, an overzealous fellow "wikkipedian."  
It was ruled in the 2600.com case (also known as the Eric Corley case after the 2600.com's owner) that the DMCA makes it illegal to link to sites that contain "illegal" software.  Therefore, I removed all the links to sites which have DVD Decrypter available for download.  Don't want the sharks coming after wikipedia.  I added information about the Fair Use versus "copy protection" (which, imo, is more accurately called Rights Destruction Technology).  
PainMan 08:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is no law against linking to sites. I restored basic links to some download locations, which is perfectly fine. If your country considers usage of the program available in the link, then just don't use it. Mine doesn't, and people would like to know where to get it. Elfguy (talk) 18:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed links

message: Just for information, would someone care to put an md5sum or other hash of the last version on the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.45.98.7 (talk • contribs) 25 April 2006
MD5SUM of SetupDVDDecrypter 3.5.4.0 (last release) is:  78d806097da8e8b8d595827cccddf6d9
--81.174.171.21 15:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For information purposes I want to confirm that the MD5 checksum for "SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe" is: 78D806097DA8E8B8D595827CCCDDF6D9  --Trounce (talk) 11:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: MD5SUM

message: Is there, or has there been any thought of, a page documenting the takedown of this program and similar programs, its effect on the availability of the software, the redistribution of the software by non-authors of it (as mentioned above), or its effect on the availability of copyrighted materials?  In other words, did the software go away?  Did the take down facilitate or prevent copyright infringement or plagiarism?  Does the new law serve software artists, or corporate conglomerates, or both, or neither? Oneismany 03:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea....why not add it to the article Mushintalk 05:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Takedown page?

message: How the hell did Macrovision buy out DVD Decrypter? Did LIGHTNING UK! acquiesce willingly? NeoThe1 05:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In a word, yes. The alternative would have probably been an ugly and painful court appearance. Chris Cunningham 20:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  From the sources supplied they did NOT acquire the software but rather send cease and desist. The article cited  by Pyyny, Petteri is actually a bad interpretation of the quoted text from the author of the software . Red nnnno (talk) 22:40, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Macrovision Case

message: ok, in the year and a bit of using wikipedia, I don't think I've seen a worse-written article.
The whole article (moreso the first section) needs to be totally rewritten, or you could find this article up for deletion. -203.45.31.154 05:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, there are plenty of worse articles. Feel free to add constructive commentary to their talk pages as well. Chris Cunningham 13:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This article sucks

message: :File:DVD decrypter screenshot.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for File:DVD decrypter screenshot.png

message: Lightning UK didn't tell anyone who wrote the letter, it was when the site got the letter that everyone found out it was macrovision. 90.199.169.219 (talk) 17:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, who else would it be? lol 71.155.238.10 (talk) 01:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The letter

message: I would be interested to know more about earlier versions (pre 3.5.4.0), what features were added and when, and about compatibility with operating systems. Can anyone provide these details? 96.241.7.138 (talk) 20:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Version history

message: A sentence in the lead paragraph seems dubious to me. "While it was still supported, it could be used to make a copy of any DVD protected with Content Scrambling System (CSS)." The fact that the software is no longer supported did not magically make existing copies of the software, out in the wild, suddenly stop doing exactly what it was already capable of doing. Certainly there are new protection mechanisms (over and above CSS), which had not been envisioned by the time development of DVD Decrypter had ceased. DVDs using such additional mechanisms might be able to defeat DVD Decrypter's techniques. But any DVD which the software was capable of duplicating prior to its takedown would certainly still be susceptible to the software after its takedown.142.177.67.210 (talk) 02:54, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "While it was supported..." 

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