Talk:Peep Show (British TV series)

message: Someone can put this in the right place and update the page, but for what its worth, its spelt 'Uzbourne'
CAN YOU DESCRIBE JEREMY IN THREE WORDS?
"[Robert Webb] It's. Spelt. Usborne."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/nov/20/peep-show-mitchell-webb
-cheers  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.232.178 (talk) 10:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Jeremy

message: I removed the word 'technically' from the season 5 description when refering to Mark being 'raped' by the daughter of Jez's mums boyfriend. A women cant rape a man, so he wasnt 'technically' raped at all. Rape requires penetration of the rapee.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.206.163 (talk) 19:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Shall I award you all for most ignorant comments, or worst grammar?  Either way, you're a winner. 24.98.14.73 (talk) 21:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Women have been sent to jail for rape. So yes women raping men is true. Genjix (talk) 17:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Technically raped

message: I'm going through the character profiles and editing them. I'm trying to keep them describing the characters themselves, not events in the series', but some events are worth mentioning (e.g. Super Hans becoming addicted to crack) and so I'll keep those on for now anyway. The description parts should be about the characters personalities and traits, not what the do within the show - that should be within the series descriptions.
Also, every series is mentioned either as Series three, season three, or series 3. Can we clarify which is appropriate and keep the page standardised? The Hurball Company 22:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually says "Loan manager Mark Corrigan is a middle-aged man in a twentysomething's body" ChrisTheDude 19:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Character descriptions

message: Why was my information about what university they met at deleted? Andy86 23:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the section you added it to is meant to be a two-paragraph summary of the entire series, explaining who the characters are - the name of the university they met at is a very, very minor aspect of the show, and needn't be a part of the synopsis. Dartmouth university is already mentioned in both of the character's profiles further down the page. --McGeddon 23:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dartmouth is actually quite a good university. Shtove 08:15, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Synopsis

message: The summaries need expanded upon, i need to rewatch series one and two if i'm going to do it justice. Anyone else fancy a pop in the meantime? Logan1138 17:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to do per-episode summaries a while back, but i just couldnt be bothered to watch all the serieses again, and/or watch the current series and jot down what happens... i'll add a bit to the series three section after each episode though, if you like. ---- jeffthejiff (talk) 19:08, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Scratch that, im never actually in when its on Channel 4. Ah well, i might watch the first two series again sometime. -- jeffthejiff (talk) 09:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot summary

message: Personally I think the new stuff, particularly the characters section, is unnecessasary, repetitive, and under-realised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.92.67.70 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 7 December 2005
:I think its OK to have a character section, although some of it is repeated in the Synopsis section, yes. Such stuff should be moved and modified to the corresponding character. -- jeffthejiff (talk) 09:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Latest additions

message: If I had not yet watched series three but had read the Characters section of this article, I would have been very disappointed to read that Sophie was eventually Mark's girlfriend. A large part of the first two series is of a will-they-won't-they nature. I think either the Characters section should have spoiler marks around it, or (preferably) made spoiler-free. Pelago 11:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has to be there as it is a crucial part of the story. Spoiler tags are there now, anyway. I personally never doubted that they'd shack up together... I think many are the same.--Untruth 13:41, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers in Characters section 

message: It appears that series 1 is no longer available on DVD in the UK, I have no idea why. --82.152.138.225 23:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now available again - it's been re-released with a new cover, matching the style of the series two cover (a similar design will presumably be used for the third). Seb Patrick 09:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peep Show: Series 1 

message: ...just seem to list random events from the series rather than describe the charators. Very odd. SaltyWater 22:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in the process of fixing that, some profiles (especially Nancy's) were just lists of what she did in each series, and huge spoilers were in there that weren't at all necessary. Hopefully the characters all read much better now. The Hurball Company 18:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The character profiles... 

message: I've deleted
:He likes to refer to Dambusters and Das Boot in his conversations with others
as it isn't really supported by the show. Both subjects only receive one mention each throughout three series. I've also added a comment about Mark seeming to want to do an Ancient History degree but being forced to do Business Studies, recall:
:"I'm doing it dad! I'm sudying Acient History and there's nothing you can do about it."
--Adzz 01:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No - he wanted to study Ancient History at university but he was forced to do Business Studies. When he followed Amber to her university, she happened to be studying Ancient History and he followed her into the class, thus finally getting to "study" it - hence his statement you quoted above. SaltyWater 11:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is exactly what Adzz said? HornetMike 23:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Must have been drunk when I wrote that. SaltyWater 09:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mark Corrigan

message: :who deleted the bit about how he was meant to kill himself in the oraigal draft but was change to to poor testing== —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Redwinevito (talk • contribs) 00:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alan Johnson

message: It says that when one's luck is up, the other's is down. I really haven't noticed that in the series. The two characters so often both experience the same kind of luck that I don't know why it's there and I think it should be taken down. Somatomy 07:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Certainly, for example, in the episode where Mark has his nervous breakdown and they end up pepper spraying each other, you couldn't say that either of them are having good luck (in the same episode, Jez gets fired from his new job and loses Toni to Super Hans). Seb Patrick 09:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it comes from something David Mitchell says in the DVD commentary for Episode 6 of Series 1, but it sounded more like a general observation than a strictly adhered-to device... thing.128.240.229.65 22:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Synopsis

message: Sorry about that. I accidentally edited a slightly old version of the page when I was changing "that" to "who." My fault. Jeremy Peter Green 21:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, no problem. I assume the changing of the release date was for a similar reason in that case and will put it back to what it was. Correct me if I'm wrong! --Iae 21:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that. I thought that 'that' might be wrong, but I just wasn't sure, and it sounded okay at the time. Charlie MacKenzie 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone's so polite! It makes a nice change. :D --Dreaded Walrus 23:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Word usage

message: Super Hans seems to be regularly and erroneously changed to "Super Hands" - perhaps this merits a note next to/at the end of his character synopsis to the effect that "Hans" is correct and shouldn't be changed?! Nick Cooper 22:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good thinking, done. HornetMike 01:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, the IPs that were doing it all had pretty similar editing patterns and the IPs themselves were pretty similar. I would probably assume it was just one misguided person, who genuinely thought he was correct.--Dreaded Walrus 01:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Hans - merits a warning? 

message: I think the layout in the character section should be changed because it looks quite messy to me. The alignment of the images means that subsequent character names and the next section title ("Plot summary") wrap around the images. Perhaps a table format would work better? I'll leave it up to someone else to do the hard work ;) just wanted to point out the bad look. [EDIT: may not be noticable if you have screen resolution width of 1024 or less] Scott 18:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to sort this out, all the images are now aligned to the left and the text should line up fine for most people using common resolutions. Perhaps a table would be better, but I'm not the best at creating them on here, and it'll have to be someone else to make one... The Hurball Company 18:26, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout of character section 

message: #"In series three Sophie is starting to spread her wings, and her latent desire to find something more in life than a job in a loans company and a ready meal with Mark starts to put a strain on their relationship." - this doesn't relate to anything specifically said in the series and therefore seems like an editor's OR interpretation of events.  I think it should be reworded/removed....
#Jeremy....found himself homeless until a chance meeting with Mark, who agreed to let him rent his spare room. - I don't recall any dialogue anywhere in the series which mentions this - can anyone clarify.....? 
#Where is Jeff's surname given as Heaney....?
ChrisTheDude 08:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nick Cooper 13:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: HornetMike 13:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm going to edit the bits covered by points 1 and 2, but I'll endeavour to find some time to watch the DVDs with commentary on (which I've not bothered to do to date), and if Jez being homeless is mentioned anywhere on there, I'll put it back in.  Does that sound fair.....? ChrisTheDude 13:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, if it's on the commentaries it would count. I'll check the Radio Time for Series 3 for #1, as I suspect it something Alison Graham said, but even so I don't think it's really necessary (Ms Graham is notorious for her "mis-reading" of various programmes). Nick Cooper 13:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the subject of my original point number 1, the only scene I can think of that's anywhere near the original description is the one where Sophie wants to go clubbing but Mark has rented some DVDs of films they already saw at the cinema.  But I don't think it's necessary to refer to something so specific in such a short pen picture, so I've reworded it in more general terms..... ChrisTheDude 14:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Mark's mate Daryl says "special delivery for Jeff Heaney" when he throws the rock in episode 2-2 - at least, that's how it's transcribed in the DVD subtitles. He might be saying "Jeffini", but I suppose that's a long shot. In 2-1 Sophie's computer displays an email from "Jeff Sherriff", which I thought might be him, but it's also the name of the show's production designer, so my guess is that's just a dummy email to fill up the screen. Heaney is probably right. BTW, nice work on those recent edits, Chris. Echidnaboy 23:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Couple of points

message: You only have to look on IMDB to see who they cast as Mark to predict that it would die a death, but presumably worth a mention here. Nick Cooper 13:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Americans seem to be notoriously bad as casting pilots based on UK shows. Shame. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 14:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The US pilot is mentioned in a commentary on the Series 3 DVD. Apparently it more-or-less abandoned the POV style. Sigh... Echidnaboy 23:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

text: * How can you abandon the POV style at the centre of the bloddy programme! Why do Americans have to do this remake business anyhow, when the original is open for them to take? It's sort of like Museo Reina Sofia giving away Guernica and thinking, 'mm, I like that picture, I'm going to make a doodle of it.' --It's-is-not-a-genitive 09:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: New remake news here! HornetMike 09:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  American pilot 

message: While reverting some changes which an anon editor had made which had messed up the infobox, I noticed that they had changed the "created by" field to show Armstrong and Bain rather than Mitchell and Webb.  As A and B are the scriptwriters it did actually kinda seem more likely to me but if it's the case then I'm surprised it's not been challenged before.  Does anyone have a source which confirms who actually created the show....? ChrisTheDude 08:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got a much on M and W sources, from massively improving David Mitchell's page. From what I remember it was a joint venture between the four, I'll dig out a good source. Gran2 19:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Created by....?

message: We're now two episodes into series 4 and already the plot summary is longer than the whole of series 2 and 3 put together.  Can we try and rein it in a bit and try not to add a detailed summary of every episode right after it finishes.....? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChrisTheDude (talk • contribs) 20:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe it should be moved to "List of Peep Show Episodes" and then everyhting should be expanded? --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 09:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 4 plot summary 

message: Couldn't we move Jez' article to Jeremy (Peep Show character) or something similar until such time as we have a 100% definitive answer to what his surname is?  That's avoid all the edit warring that's been going on of late..... ChrisTheDude 15:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a good argument for removing his surname entirely, actually, if we haven't got a reliable source for it. --McGeddon 14:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think removing the surname entirely is a reasonable idea but I'm just not really sure how much it will help. There will probably still be a similar number of people editing the page to append 'Osbourne' onto his name as there are people changing 'Usbourne' to 'Osbourne'. The writers of Peep Show seem to have deliberately intended his name to begin with a 'U' (thus either Usbourne or Usborne - the subtitles conflict), so we could just make a mention of this in Jeremy's section on the page? Presumeably this would clarify to editors the reason why it is Usbourne in the article. --Iae 15:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Forenames only would probably solve a lot of problems, and would in fact be in line with how he's actually credited on screen. Nick Cooper 16:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a thought..... 

message: On the Channel 4 site, Mark's and Jeremy's surnames both show as Corrigan
Yyem 09:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an error by whoever coded the page, methinks..... ChrisTheDude 10:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Surnames?!?

message: Just a thought now, but would it be a good idea if we create a page for each episode? I mean, some would just be synopsis, and I'm sure that someone will feel the need for a trivia section. But some, like Quantocking, which have a DVD commentary will be able to have a production secton, and a reception section wouldn't be to hard to knock up. I've had highest sucess rate with getting high quality episode articles on the whole of Wikipedia (behind Scorpion0422), having got 11 Simpsons episodes to GA, two more on GAC and the moment, and one other (Homer's Phobia) to FA. Anyway, it could be a problem for the first two seasons, as the don't have titles. Although we could just call them "Episode 1 (Peep Show)" through to "Episode 12 (Peep Show)". Anyway, as said, just an idea. Gran2 19:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea. I've only got series 1 on DVD, but I'd cast an eye over them. HornetMike 09:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll get started when I get home, I'll create them using basic shell templates, and the current synopsis and images they have on the episode list. Which was partly the reason for me suggesting this, as we will have to remove all of the images from that list, following the new regulations. Gran2 11:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, here's the basic frame that I will be used for them all, User:Gran2/Sandbox, I will use this for them for now, and then expand them at some other point. Gran2 14:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also with the first to two seasons I will be calling them Episodes 1-12, rather than having to have "Episode 2 (Peep Show, series 2)" for the double ups, series 3 is now done. Gran2 15:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text: And we can always move them, if there is agreement another way is better. Gran2 16:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right every page is now done, the synopsis for them all are just the same ones as from the episode lists and so really need expanding. I will add production and reception to those where that's possible when I have the chance. Gran2 17:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Individual ep pages

message: Some other entries on TV series (eg The Sopranos) have a section on the locations where the series was filmed.  It might be interesting to start such a section here.  For example: live.com Zodiac Court is their block of flats in Croydon. Cod 14:21, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unrotunately, while many locations will be identifiable by Londoners (e.g. the original title sequence was shot in Crouch End), most of it would be original research. Nick Cooper 15:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Amazon.com lists a good few locations on their 'Theatrical Release Information' blurb for the US DVD release, I thought it might have been taken from the sleeve notes.  Cod 16:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Locations ?

message: Anybody know what the Reggae music is that they listen to in series 2 episode 1?   AJUK </font>Talk!! 19:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, no idea, although I do know what the music they dance to at Rainbow Rhythms is, that's Afro-Celt Sound System.... ChrisTheDude 19:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: There may be too many images in this article. I can't find the exact page, but there is a Wikipedia guideline which covers images of characters in TV shows. Generally, having a non-free image for each character is regarded as too many and difficult to justify under fair use criteria. Images which depict more than one character are preferred, or only images of the main characters could be used. I also noticed that each image has a fair use rationale for its use on the performer's article page, but no rationale for use on this page.  --carelesshx talk 03:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem there is that by the very unusual nature of the way the series is shot, there are very rarely shots with more than one character in them. Nick Cooper 10:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would go as far to say that I've never seen a pic on the interweb with more than three of them in together. A brief search on Google confirms this too. Tphi (talk) 00:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure at least one of the DVD releases has a photo on the back cover of Mark, Jez and Sophie together.  I think it's a publicity shot rather than a scene from the programme.  MFlet1 (talk) 07:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This shot has four of the main characters in, that's the best I could find although admittedly it isn't a great image....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-free images 

message: These all seem to be broken. The one to edit Toni's box redirects to Nancy's box, for example. I'd fix them myself but I don't know how. Shinigami27 18:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed - it looks like titles have to be on a line of their own for the edit links to connect properly. --McGeddon 19:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit links 

message: The list of episodes is currently a candidate for featured list. Not many people have commented on it so far, so if you can do so, please review it. Thanks. 21:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The list has been successfully promoted! Thanks to everyone who has helped to make it. ISD (talk) 07:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Peep Show episodes]] for [[WP:FL|featured list]]

message: Hi there, noticed the update tag in the series five section, and seeing that sure enough, the info was way out of date, I threw in a quick synopsis covering the episodes so far, in what, at 2am, seem roughly like intelligible sentences. Please, do go ahead and edit, rephrase, or delete whatever you like of it to start with - I don't know if it's too long or too short, given we've only had three episodes so far, so if you think any of it's excessive, do go ahead and axe it. If anybody particularly wants to rewrite it altogether, I won't be offended, but I hope it can form a reasonable starting point. VWOzone (Talk) 01:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series five update 

message: First & foremost, the Peep Show articles suffer heavily from viewers' POV interpretations.  Case in point:
:[Super Hans] "is said to be back at work 'on the rig' suggesting that he is spending time in prison ('working on the rig' is a term often used as an excuse to explain a prolonged absence, and his drug addictions and overall attitude support this)"
I have never heard 'working on the rig' used in this way to explain a prolonged absense, & even if there is such an expression, this does not support the assumption that he must be in prison.  If the individual viewer chooses to imagine that the fictional character Super Hans may spend time in prison, so be it, but this is not explicit in show.  I had understood from this comment of Jeremy's, as I believe most sentient viewers would, that Super Hans works on an offshore oil rig, an occupation which is in keeping with his role in the stories, since he would be away at sea for long periods, then at home on shore leave & not working for long periods.  I am writing this into the article in place of the prison comment which is not at all justified.
Secondly, there's far too much anecdotal detail about minor jokes & comments within the show.  Case in point:
:Over time, Jeremy's lust for Toni grows, and he contemplates the opportunity of having a "next-door fuckbuddy", including having intercourse through the wall.
The wall thing was a blink-&-you-miss-it two-second comment in Jeremy's mental dialogue during episode 1.  Putting it in the Wikipedia series synopsis as an "over time" thing is misleading - it implies that this fantasy of Jeremy's was a significant theme.  So I am removing this sentence.
These are just a couple of examples but there are others.  Generally I believe there is too much detail, here & on the List of Peep Show episodes, about specific incidents, individual episode plots in excessive detail, and one-off minor comments by characters, all of which is debasing the quality of the article.  There is a general in-universe treatment of the subject & fan-site tone to the article which is not appropriate to Wikipedia.  See the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).
I would like to overhaul this article, & the episode guides one, & remove a lot of this incidental stuff, but will seek consensus before taking action.  Please discuss.    Weasel Fetlocks (talk) 00:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no writer's commentary on that episode, so I don't think the "rig" question will ever be decisively settled.  However, I think that Occam's razor applies here - the most straightforward & least convoluted explanation is likely to be correct (I.E. that Hans works on an oil rig).  Certainly, I've never heard the 'in prison' meaning of the phrase & a Google search for "on the rig" only brings up sites about oil rigs.  It should only be mentioned if there is an unrelated citation for "on the rig" meaning 'in prison'.  Another possibility is to just remove all mention of "on the rig" from the article, since it is only mentioned once in the series & seems to be only to interpretation & misinterpretation.  Weasel Fetlocks (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have thought the most obvious interpretation of "rig" was "DJing equipment". What was the context of the original quote? Does it really try to explain his absence for the whole series, or is it just someone asking where Super Hans is, in one scene? --McGeddon (talk) 13:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jeremy calls Mark at work because he is bored and lonely since Nancy is in America "and Super Hans in back on the rig". He is in the episodes before and after.Billwilson5060 (talk) 16:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I would suggest not mentioning anything, although there is a difference in the image being built up of a crackhead and someone who works on an oil rig, so if that interpretation is accepted, it would probably be noteworthy. A couple of other things from the current article - the "gay dads" plan is mentioned as if it were more certain than it seemed from the episode, and I can't remember Dobbie being called Debbie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billwilson5060 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's my major problem with this & the other Peep Show articles:  people have picked up odd little specks of dialogue, which may have been funny in the context of the show, & written them out-of-context into the article as if they are significant plot points.  This isn't good encyclopedia content.  I think it should really be cut down to:  * Synopsis of long-term plot (not detailed plot of every episode).  * Short & objective character synopses.  * Some discussion of the public & critical reception.  * Extra insight from the writers (e.g. in director's commentary).  Weasel Fetlocks (talk) 00:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS In her first appearance Dobbie mentioned that her actual name was Debbie but that everyone called her Dobbie....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

text: So it's agreed that some of the material has to go. There doesn't really seem to be any in-depth advice on the in-universe rules, but it does seem as if they were created to deal with obsessive accounts of things like fictional technology - the equivalent would be something like "JLB credit is a fictional consumer credit business...". The minor characters' profiles could certainly do with some trimming e.g. where they quote "kill and knob" and "insured out of my arse". The major characters' pages could do with some sourced insights, including from the many interviews Mitchell and Webb have given (although a big part of this may come down to "is Mark based on David?". The section headlined "plot summary" could be merged with the episode list article. That list has been featured, and it would be unusual for a major series not to have at least some account of what happens. For series 1-3, these seem to be giving the premise rather than the plot - I think the latter is supposed to be preferred. If there are any notable perspectives on the show (positive or negative) or reliable accounts of production, they could be added as they come to light.Billwilson5060 (talk) 21:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some problems 

message: I spotted this book on the shelves of Waterstones on Monday. It gives Jeremy's name as Usbourne. I'd say that was pretty definitive? At last, the conflict is over! HornetMike (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me! We've now got the C4 website which uses both, the in-show letter which said "Usbourne", and now a third, very recent one, which also uses Usbourne. I'd say that pretty much settles it. Do you remember the page number so we can use ? If not, I could probably pop into town tomorrow to see if we've got it in the Waterstones in my town. Page number obviously isn't essential, so if you don't remember it, we can just add in that little detail tomorrow. :) Dreaded Walrus  t c 11:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't offhand, unfortunately. Probably should have taken a mental note! But yeah, I'm sure someone can find it in their local bookshop! HornetMike (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Took a look on Friday. Annoyingly only the scripts have numbers, the cite for Usbourne (or at least the one that's easy to spot, there may be one in the actual script) is a school report thing. So in the book it goes 52-53, school report-school report, school report-school report, school report-school report (cite), 54-55. HornetMike (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, interesting. Do you think that given the circumstances, citing the book without the page number should suffice? Dreaded Walrus  t c 02:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fine yeah, unless other regular editors want to keep him at his present location to stop the inevitable changes back to Osbourne? Doubt it, though. HornetMike (talk) 14:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Presumably it should have the correct spelling in the dialogue of the episode where Jez goes for the job interview at Mark's office? Nick Cooper (talk) 16:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yeah, could be. Someone else will have to find it though, as I'm off to Australia tomorrow. Good luck with this! HornetMike (talk) 23:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

text: I see Channel 4 have now purged the "Osborne" spelling from their website.  However, they now appear to be unsure whether his name is spelt "Usbourne" or "Usborne"! MFlet1 (talk) 12:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usbourne - a source! 

message: The article does not state what decade or era the series is set in.  If I am not mistaken one of the characters in series two mentions it is the 1980s.  Also the computers on the show do look of the vintage. Also some discussion of the props and how the production team got hold of these old computers and made them appear to work would be interesting background. TorontoFever (talk) 11:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The show is clearly set in the modern day, there is nothing to suggest otherwise.  A major plot point in one episode is Mark trying to hack into Sophie's email at work.  Email didn't exist in the 1980s.  The last episode of series 5 had a scene centred around MMORPGs, which have only really been around for the last couple of years or so.  In the first episode of series 2 the music at the dance class is by Afro Celt Sound System, taken from an album released in 1996.  I don't know of any episodes in which antique computers (or anything else which would suggest an earlier decade) are shown -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Chris - the series is firmly contemporary with its making. Music, technology, political, and cultural references all confirm/reinforce that. Are you not misinterpreting Toni's sarcastic fax machine-related comments in one episode?! Nick Cooper (talk) 12:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From series 4: "She’s good for me, Jez, she’s dragging me into the twenty-first century with its meaningless logos and ironic veneration of tyrants." MFlet1 (talk) 11:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: the final episode of series 5 also has various references to High definition television, such as 'I am so ready for HD' and Mark's protests that 'It's HD! It's HD!' When super Hans threatens to break his new television set. not got a username sorry.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.217.86 (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: its set NOW because when JLB credit goes bust in it, and mark gets made redundant, Johnson blames it on the current "Credit Crunch".81.23.50.232 (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In series 3 episode Quantocking, first shown in 2005, Mark talks to Sophie about The Apprentice, which began the same year. Hence we know it is set in the present. Jim Michael (talk) 01:44, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Era

message: Out of curiousity, how were the ratings on BBC America? From what I recall, they only aired the first series and only the first series is on Region 1 DVD.--DrWho42 (talk) 01:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC America 

message: I noticed that Amazon and Play are advertising the DVD release date as 7th September and have added this information to the article, but I wasn't sure about the rules on citing a retailer as a source. Given the lack of information so far on season six, I any update was worth mentioning. DeuceBigalowMD (talk) 00:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think retailers are not considered reliable, especially for future products. We don't even know when season six will air, so how do they know when its going to be released? Gran2 08:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This source may be more reliable. It is from the British Comedy Guide. ISD (talk) 08:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 6 and DVD release 

message: The article says that Series 8 has already been commissioned - even though Series 6 is still being recorded - and that it will be the final series.  Is there a source on the internet for this?  I haven't been able to find one. MFlet1 (talk) 11:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 8? 

message: I think Mark and Jeremy's separate articles should be merged here. I think they have no real notability apart from this show and all of the important plot/character information can be replicated here. Gran2 16:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's been two weeks with no objections here, so I'm going to just re-direct them here, as all of the useful content is here already. Gran2 14:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Mark and Jeremy's articles 

message: What was the thinking behind the series name ? I saw a documentary about a group of lunatic academics in California called Esalen who brought a group of black panthers out to their compound to see if they could use their confrontational therapies to neutralise the Panthers fury. The Panthers went to town on them with a process they reserved for white pseudo-liberals called Peeping with unintentionally hilarious results. The doucumentary's screening was legendary and as Peep Show does something similar to its characters and it would be interesting to know if there was a link. Esalen decided to move on to an easier subject group next, Nuns.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.195.0.85 (talk) 19:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of show's name 

message: In the states at least: http://www.dartmouth.edu/  Did they not meet there but at a different Dartmouth that is fake?  I just came here to learn about the show but that sentence in the into seemed quite odd...
Jscg (talk) 23:50, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That link is the website of Dartmouth College, which is in Hanover, New Hampshire, United States. Dartmouth University in the show is in Dartmouth, Devon, a small town in South West England which does not actually have a university. Peep Show is set entirely in England. Hence the Dartmouth University featured in the show is fictional. Jim Michael (talk) 23:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Very belated response but....season 2 episode 4 shows Mark and Jeremy visiting "their" Dartmouth University, which is clearly stated to be in the vicinity of the south coast of England and most definitely not in the USA -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dartmouth]] is a real university 

message: The character section does not name the actors that play them. This needs to be fixed. Vember94 (talk) 17:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character section 

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message: This article (to be precise, an image caption) claims that the filming location for Jeremy and Mark's flat was Zodiac Court, Croydon, "called Apollo House in the series". The article on the actual Apollo House (Croydon) claims that that building was "used as a principal location for ... Peep Show, as the home of main characters Mark and Jeremy. It was used both as an establishing shot as well as scenes filmed inside the building." Looks like something needs to be fixed. GrindtXX (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Apollo House 

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message: That description of it being a POV style of filming and therefore it's called Peep Show doesn't really stand up. That would be a good reason to call it POV Show. As far as I know, a peep show is a form of entertainment where (typically) a male will pay money and see either a recorded or live sexual display of some kind. That would be either a machine that you put your eyes up close to and would show a film or in more modern times a live person in some kind of booth. So how are the two connected? Voyeuring of "sexy times" (as Borat would put it), and a POV camera style of a sitcom. Weird.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A61:51FE:2B01:552E:6754:2020:1852 (talk) 08:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: When it began being made, it was going to be called Point of View, before it was decided to rename it Peep Show. Many people, including David Mitchell, have said that they dislike the name & that it's misleading because people will understandably wrongly assume that it's about peep shows. There should be info in the article about its original name, when & why it was changed & who made that decision. Jim Michael (talk) 17:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still don't get why it's called Peep Show