Talk:List of Wii games/Archive 3

message: I think release dates are worth mentioning.
:: Agreed, 100%, and regional sorting.  I don't care about when Naruto is coming out in Japan.  That gives me no way to determine when it is coming out here, and is information that should be sorted out of my way... just like for a japanese-based reader, information about when Naruto is releasing in the US is useless and should be sorted out of his way.  JudgeX 16:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Dates 

message: Are sources for released games really necessary? I completely understand why we have them for when the games are in development, but after a point doesn't it become common knowledge enough that they don't need it? It's like citing a source that Harrison Ford was in Star Wars. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Honestly I don't think it needs its own box within the table in any case. K1Bond007 00:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think if a game has been released, a source isn't so necessary. But a source column definitely is necessary now considering the vast majority of the games on the list are unreleased and every day there are clowns listing fake games. But if we do eliminate sources for released games, I'd rather not have an empty source box. Could we just shade those source boxes in black? --enbob89 01:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems like a good idea to me. Would would that look like? Perhaps the standard could be to remove confirmation links for games that already are released and have their own article? -- Exitmoose 01:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for released games

message: I would like to know the price of the games (Specially the Zelda one and the Red Steel one), thanks.
:Game prices vary from region to region, and more importantly, over time. Furthermore, there are sales and bundles that further complicate pricing. As such, they can be documented for each game on its respective page, but to put all of those details on this list would simply clutter everything up. I suggest we do not add this information to this page. — Aielyn 06:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PRICE of the games 

message: It would probably be a good idea to add another category to the list for games that are online in some capacity.  Although since 'O' is currently in use maybe 'I' should be used for 'Intenet Enabled,' or something of that nature? 
ITZKooPA 18:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Also, the number of players would be handy here rather than having to load each game's Wikipedia entry. Krisjohn 01:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Before we add any more categories, the page should be redesigned with a more organized layout, if anyone can come up with one. --enbob89 23:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization (Add Online Enabled Game Category?) 

message: I think the list of games should add the columns "Aspect Ratio" and "Resolution" to the list of columns.  Some games are made in 16x9, some 4x3 and the same goes for 480i/480p.  Adding these two columns would make it easy to see what each game offers.
I also think it would be good to add a column that describes the number of controllers necessary for each game.  The format could be wiimote/nunchuck/classic where 4/4/0 would say that 4 wiimotes, 4 nunchucks, and 0 classic controllers are required. Ajwillys 20:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the purpose of this list is just to list which games exist. Details should be put in the games' respective articles or in a Comparison of Wii Games article. I feel like the online column is out of place too. --enbob89 21:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Compare List of PlayStation 3 games or  List of Xbox 360 games or List of GameCube games, all of which have a similar format.  This list is already on the verge of being cluttered with too much information.  Title, Developer, Publisher, Release Date, and Region are more than enough. -- Exitmoose 00:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've successfully removed the online column without screwing up the entire page. I think a good alternative would be a List of Online Wii Games. Such an article would list all of the online games as well as useful information like how many players and WiiConnect24 usage. Just seems more organized and practical to me.--enbob89 23:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add "Aspect Ratio", "Resolution", and "Controller" columns 

message: Would it be a good idea to make a separate page for wii exclusives?
I would happily make one if I get the go ahead. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bfscr (talk • contribs) 21:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not believe that a separate Wii-exclusive games is warranted; the idea of this list, or so it appears, is to offer a unifying list of Wii games, a one-stop shop. Additionally, the creation of a separate page can be confusing to casual Wikipedia browsers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.181.225.103 (talk) 06:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exclusive list/table 

message: Hello!
After much discussion I've begun updating and reformatting the list of Wii games. This reformatting will make the page easier and more efficient to use and should satisfy most everybody. 
I encourage all of those who can to help reformat this list; as you can see, I have already done those titles that begin with a number, 'A', and 'B'. 
You'll see that the source link is next to the title in the form of an arrow. Please follow this format and note that the arrow (right arrow) can be found in the 'Insert' section of the editing box. Also, be sure to take a couple seconds and click the current link to make sure it is legitimate and current. If not, please be kind enough to update this link.
When inserting release dates for each region, please be as accurate as possible. Q1 2007 refers to the months Jan-Feb 2007. A 'summer' release usually means a Q3 release. It is better to be conservative, so if a title is to be published in the second half of 2007, insert Q4 2007, and be sure to update the date when more details are available. 
If no date is given and cannot be approximated, then insert either 'TBA' or 'Unreleased'. If a title is likely to come out for a particular region, type 'TBA'. If it is unlikely that the title will see release in a particular region, type in 'Unreleased'. It is safer to say a title is 'TBA' if you are unsure. Do not, however, leave any of these columns blank. To help guide you make note of whether previous games from that publisher or franchise came out in a particular region and use Google/Wikipedia to search for information.
Once again, thank you for your input and I look forward to everybody's help in keeping this list updated and accessible. -Digiwrld1 11:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reformmating of List 

message: :Hmm, using "200x Qx" instead of "Qx 200x", messes up the page sorting. Then again, it'll also be messed up when we have two different years and the same quarter. I guess we need an additional sort key for those (and for "2007", too). --Conti|✉ 14:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, it does and it doesn't.  With the 200x Qx format, the entries sort to the start of their respective year.  I admit that it breaks up the flow of the fully dated entries, but it still sorts cleanly.  If we go with Qx 200x format, they will all sort to the bottom together, much like the TBAs and Unreleased do, but Q1 2008 will sort before Q3 2007.  If you have a way to get the best of both worlds, I'd be happy to hear it Telvin 3d 18:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said, sort keys might do the trick, but that would be kinda cumbersome. IMHO, the "2007" and "2007 Qx" entries should come after the more detailed "22 March, 2007" entries. My only idea to achieve that would be a sort key of "2007-12-31". --Conti|✉ 18:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it would look better.  My only issue with the sort key is that it would be a more work to maintain in the long term.  Many people who make only ocasional edits may not check this page and may not realize how the formatting works.  The way it is now isn't as pretty, but it is logical and makes sense. Telvin 3d 20:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true. But then again, the table as it is (and tables in general are) is already quite unfriendly towards newbies, so I don't think adding another sort key for a few entries is too much. I could create a template, so that all that needs to be added would be something like  or . --Conti|✉ 21:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you did that, it would be really cool.  I think it would also be a more obvious format for anyone who isn't as familiar with formatting tags. Telvin 3d 21:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  should work now, feel free to try it out. :) --Conti|✉ 22:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it works great. Telvin 3d 23:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh man, that's great--I had thought that the sorting issues couldn't be resolved because of some kind of limit in wiki editing; guess i was wrong. Thanks for all of your guys help Telvin and ContiE. The table looks great.-Digiwrld1 10:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting of List