Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers/Archive 52

message: Some anons are adding categories for future years to the articles for those years.  In the past week, :Category:2011–2036 had the respective year added to the category.  I reverted 2017–2036, with the exception of 2024, which actually had another article in the category.  Is this a good thing.  (Is this the correct page to be discussing the question?)  — Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 16:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future year categories 

message: Several places, the article Hispania currently uses "AC" (e.g. the caption "Roman Gallaecia under Diocletian 293 AC"). I assume this is meant to be the same meaning as "AD" or "CE". It's not Spanish (that would use "AD" or "EC"). I'm guessing this should be changed, but just wondered if anyone knows what it's about, if only just so that if it has some slight currency we can add a specific note not to use it! - Jmabel | Talk 21:55, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "AC" is listed here as a synonym for BC. The caption may be a typo. Hispania used A.D. a few times. None of the examples have A.D., but if it is discouraged perhaps the guide should say so more clearly. Gimmetrow 23:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Ironically, shortly after I responded here another editor deleted it from calendar era. "AC" is the latin "BC" and is used in Church latin texts. Gimmetrow 17:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: AC is the abbreviation of "before Christ" in Spanish and Portuguese ("ante de Cristo" or "antes de Cristo") and Italian ("avanti Cristo")      . When used where AD would be appropriate, AC is probably a typo. — Joe Kress 05:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "AC" 

message: I disagree with " i.e., outside parentheses" added to "Spell out source units in the text." My understanding of the original was that it referred to the main body of the article, the prose, in contrast to such things as tables. Maurreen 15:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maurreen would be correct in that it did refer to the main body.  That's why you don't see square kilometres and square miles spelled out in infoboxes.--MJCdetroit 15:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I see what you mean by 'outside of the parentheses' and whether that example is incorrect.  You make a very good point!  I would say that the 'converted values [i.e. inside of parentheses] should use abbreviations or symbols'.  I think there is some confusion in that the source unit may get switched, especially in US centric articles if the source unit is metric.  I think that the word source should be removed from the sentence.  So the sentence would read "Spell out units in text".  There are two other sentences that deal with unit order.  I think that a sight re-ordering of the sentences would help clarify things.--MJCdetroit 17:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parentheses

message: I'd like to set out here a raft of micro-changes based on the discussions in "Units of measurement" and related subsections here. I'll put this together soon, and number them so that people can comment on individual proposals. Tony 06:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  impending proposal 

message: Would it be a good idea to recommend that pre-euro currencies (French franc, Irish pound etc.) be given conversions to euro as oppossed to any other currency. The reason I ask is that I've seen several articles where estimates of francs and deutschmarks in particular, have been converted to US dollars, despite the fact that their successor is almost as widely used as the dollar, but more importantly, has an absolute rate. Since the rate will never change, wouldn't it be better if the Manual of Style at least reccomends that estimates to pre-euro currencies be given in their successor? The other reason I say it is that I've noticed another group of articles which have just have no conversion at all. I just think it would help if it was in the Manual of Style, unless someone can see a reason not to. It seems crazy that amounts of money be given in a currency that no longer exists. - Рэдхот 13:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency conversions