Talk:International emergency medicine

message: Moved to talk because no references and likely incomplete. RJFJR (talk) 14:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fellowships

message: Hello, my name is Matthew, and I'm an undergraduate student from Rice University. I'm intending on expanding and rewriting this article for a class project. Currently there isn't much more than a definition and description of the International Conference on Emergency Medicine. I'd like to create more of a focus on the establishment/improvement of emergency medicine in developing countries. There is actually a fairly extensive literature on international emergency medicine in some of the emergency medicine journals so there is a lot of scope to add information about the state of emergency medicine in the developing world and initiatives that are underway to improve it. I'm still trying to figure out how to strike a balance between a broad overview of the topic and examples from specific countries.  My plan is reorganize what is already there and to create sections like "Overview of international emergency medicine", "Institutions involved", "Role in the overall health system", "Initiatives to expand emergency medicine", and "Challenges." I would be glad to hear if anyone had ideas on other sources I could use as most of my intended sources are from medical journals. Any suggestions for the best way to go about this project?   Mjs15 (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome. Toil away. If you have any queries on anything, ask at WT:MED, where you introduced yourself earlier. I know a bit about the editing policies so feel free to ask anything on my talk page. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 15:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  International emergency medicine page (expansion and revisions) 

message: Hi, nice work on a complicated topic. I think the article, ironically, needs a little bit more 'global perspective'. A basic example to illustrate what I mean is the reference to "practicing abroad", which means different things depending on where you are. Similar problem with "emergency medicine in other countries" being a key part of the definition. Other than what? Is "international medicine" actually, specifically, the practice First world emergency medicine in Third World countries? I don't like these terms, but to be honest I prefer them to developed/developing, which IMO are actually more loaded. 
Are there cultural practices outside of the global capitalist monoculture that could be considered "emergency medicine"? If so, are these part of "international emergency medicine" when they are used in, for example, the United States? Or is "international emergency medicine" a unidirectional transfer from Us to Them? (With Anglo-American and Franco-German the only choices. Which actually makes me wonder, even within the first world, about the state of Soviet international emergency medicine...)
None of which is to trash your hard work or even suggest we need to remove anything, but I do think some expansion and reframing is necessary. Salaam, groupuscule (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global perspective 

message: Hi Matt! I think this article is a really good and well-written. I have a few suggestions which you can feel free to take or ignore. I think under the importance section the final sentence in the third paragraph needs to either be rephrased or cited so that it won't be perceived as a factual claim without any proof. Also, I think in general it would be good to be cognizant of the fact that this is an encyclopedic entry so the language needs to be neutral. So one sentence in particular that I think needs to be rewritten or cited is under the importance section also and it says "Emergency departments are excellent locations to train health care providers and to collect data due to the density of patients". Also, some of the transitions seem a little too colloquial for an encyclopedic article such as of course and as would be expected so I think it'd be helpful if you changed that. Best, Lgriffin92 (talk) 02:46, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Input

message: I do have a source that would seem to lists some controversies about IEM: Challenges in international medicine: ethical dilemmas, unanticipated consequences, and accepting limitations. 
On a separate note, I am starting to think that the article isn't comprehensive enough for FA status. It doesn't mention international pediatric emergency medicine at all (a 
sub-subspecialty of EM), growth in the number of EM journals around the world; or any controversies about IEM. I probably should withdraw it from the FAN list, as I really don't have time to fix any of those gaps, either. AmericanLemming (talk) 07:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm hesitant to try to judge as a non-expert, but from what you say those do sound like areas that should be included. Perhaps you should pull and try to fill those gaps, and then go for a peer review before taking this to FA again? I think you've done a good job addressing my concerns above, so I'm not sure I can make any further suggestions myself, but PR is a stop for many editors pre-FA; hopefully you could get some good further feedback there. In either case, though, I wish you the best of luck with this important topic! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversies

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