Talk:Final Fantasy Tactics/Archive 1

message: The Shrine Knights, (especially Vormav and Weigraf) play a big enough role to be added in I think.  
--Havermayer 20:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding other characters 

message: Final Fantasy Tactics was notorious for being one of the rarest, priciest, and most sought-after PSX games in existence
Uh, I don't think it was ever THAT rare. Certainly not to the levels of a number of other games. It seems a bit not-quite NPOV, a bit hyperbolic -- perhaps changed to "Before it was re-released under Sony's "Greatest Hits" label in 2001, it was highly sought after and went for prices exceeding $100 on Ebay and elsewhere. At the time of its reissue, it was the only game to be re-released under that label without meeting Sony's guidelines of breaking sales of 200,000 copies."
Anyone else agree or disagree with this wording? Melodia Chaconne 9 July 2005 18:35 (UTC)
I bought my copy at Sears I think, and this was maybe a year after it came out. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:03, 2005 July 17 (UTC)
*I strongly disagree with this statement. I can go to any video game store locally (Your GameStops, your Game Crazys, et cetera) and find at least ten copies unopened. Rockhound 21:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can now, Rockhound.  Reread the statement.  "Before it was re-released..." {Empahsis added}.  Believe me, I tried in vain to find a copy I could afford before the re-release. --Suttkus 15:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rarity

message: Does anyone have a cite for the factoid that Bahamut Lagoon was originally produced under the working title Final Fantasy Tactics? Because it seems like one of those things that should really be listed in our references section.... – Seancdaug 03:10, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
:Anyone? I still can't find a verifiable source for this factoid, and I'm seriously considering removing it unless someone can show me otherwise. – Seancdaug 22:36, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
:::As best I can recall, I got that information from Andrew Vestal via his Unofficial Squaresoft Homepage circa 1996 or '97. (The site folded in early '98.) The "UOSSHP" was arguably the most extensive Square website that ever was; Squaresoft themselves even hosted it for him at one point. I trust Andrew Vestal as a source completely. He's the same person who revealed Final Fantasy IX to the world almost a year before Square unveiled it for the first time, before Square had even made the final decision to name it "Final Fantasy IX". I can't insist that you trust me, an anonymous netizen. But I can assure you that the information comes from a reliable, trustworthy source. – Druff 00:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one have never heard it before, and would be all for removeing it. Melodia Chaconne 11:49, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the above nomination to remove this information unless it can be definatively cited. 65.27.190.57 21:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Bahamut Lagoon]]?

message: Why no mention of this game's high level of difficulty.  It turned myself and several other off of this game despite its good features. DirectorStratton 15:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely. If one spends enough time on Mandalia Plains, all classes can be unlocked, allowing for some rather powerful, if creative, characters. I myself had several Ninja with Equip Sword long before I was able to buy Ninja gear. So, I agree with the above statement. 65.27.190.57 21:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Difficulty

message: The gameplay section is a bit too lengthly. I suggest moving some of it into a Wikibook, as it fits better there than in the Wikipedia article. -- ReyBrujo 06:32, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving information to a Wikibook?

message: Please stop linking to a French FFT website. This is not Wikipedia FR, it is Wikipedia EN. Further additions of this site may warrant action. Rockhound 14:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Site 

message: Perhaps mention should be made of the challenges like SCC and SSCC -- that's a big appeal of this game for some people (the SCC is trying to beat the game with 5 units that can only be one job and use only skills from that job, the SSCC is the same thing but with only Ramza) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.79.65.118 (talk • contribs) .
*boggle* -- Sy / (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Challenges 

message: I notice that much of the text describing the jobs in this section is taken directly from the game, and certain passages ("Fine warriors, bold and brave, with etiquette", for example) don't read very well. Perhaps a few should be re-written, or is it more accurate to use the source text for describing them? Willpower 08:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Job classes 

message: I just noticed a lot of the recquirements for the higher level job classes are missing.  Is this to avoid spoilers or just lack of information? I added the ones I knew off the top of my head.  Rmove if unwanted.
:I'm pretty sure they weren't there because they weren't especially important to the article. Remember, this is an encyclopedia entry, not a strategy guide. I'm going to remove them. Willpower 01:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recquirements 

message: I removed the section about Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Fūketsu no Grimoire because it's obviously a direct sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and not FFT. Firstly, there was nothing about any grimoires at all in FFT, and what else cold the A in A2 stand for?
Also, like it's been said at the FFTA2: TSG talk page, there is nothing about it being on Nintendo DS. So far the platform is unspecified, although I'd say it's the most likely, seeing as the GBA is almost done with. Choogle 09:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FFTA2: The Sealed Grimoire 

message: Shouldn't this game be getting its own article by now?  FFTA2 got its own article and the game was only a footnote on the magazine scan the info for this game came from. Also: Should information that has surfaced from the FFT:TLW trailer be used to confirm or infirm alleged translation inaccuracies?
As such, a formal request to branch off a new article is now in effect.  Please consider it.
LanceHeart 06:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify for those who haven't seen it yet, the article for Final Fantasy Tactics Shishi Sensō is up and running. Nall 22:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, I jumped the gun and created it.LanceHeart 05:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FFT: The Lion War 

message: i dont know if anyone else has made this connection but the cover of the Chiodos album All's Well That Ends Well (album) bears a striking similarity to the mime class of fft (boy with a bird head, girl with a mouse-ish head). its only a theory, but if anyone finds any info, i think it should be noted. Evaunit666 01:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chiodos cover 

message: There's not even a single line about the music. I can't see it being a good article without something as important as that at least being mentioned -- especially since FFT's OST has a general positive reception. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 13:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, a helpful response! I'll add it in right away. Bluerです。 なにか? 13:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of the music 

message: ====Report Card====
:GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
#It is stable.
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#It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
#:a (tagged and captioned):  b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
#Overall: 
#:a Pass/Fail: 
====References====
There are two reasons why this article fails to be a Good Article.  The main reason is that the vast majority of the article is unreferenced.  There are many statements which are not verifiable, and the article borders on original research.  Below are a few example sentences from the article which should be referenced.  The statements may be 100% true, but there is no way to verify their accuracy without references.  This is not a complete list of sentences that need to be referenced:
* "It was published in Japan by Square and in North America by Sony Computer Entertainment America. It was never released in Europe."
* "This is due, in part, to the presence of former Quest staff members in its development crew, including director Yasumi Matsuno, character designer Akihiko Yoshida, art director Hiroshi Minagawa and composer Hitoshi Sakimoto, all of whom had left Quest to work with Square."
* "It has been announced that a reworked version of Final Fantasy Tactics with widescreen support, updated graphics, new jobs, and cel-shaded FMV will appear on the PlayStation Portable as Final Fantasy Tactics Shishi Sensō, as part of Square Enix's new Ivalice Alliance project."
* "However, one major flaw was its poor localization, which included many mistranslations rendering an 'already complex plot nearly incomprehensible'".
Also, the last reference in the article's reference list is not formatted correctly.
* Yeah, this shouldn't have been nominated quite yet. I have the tactics manual, so I can take care of the gameplay section. I don't think we should really change the plot section much for GA, since it covers the main points (but if we go to FA, we'll need to expand it to attain the comprehensiveness standard). — Deckiller 17:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Snottywong. We'll see what we can do, tackling the references and verifiability, and return to nominate it for GA again. Thanks again. Bluerです。 なにか? 16:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the GA nom may have been a little hasty. I will try to help as much as I can before the next nom. Axem Titanium 16:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All the images have their fair-use rationale placed, hopefully, and the story is verifiable with all the dialog references. Bluerです。 なにか? 05:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Nomination 14 April 2007 - Fail 

message: There are two reasons why this article fails to be a Good Article.  The main reason is that the vast majority of the article is unreferenced.  There are many statements which are not verifiable, and the article borders on original research.  Below are a few example sentences from the article which should be referenced.  The statements may be 100% true, but there is no way to verify their accuracy without references.  This is not a complete list of sentences that need to be referenced:
* "It was published in Japan by Square and in North America by Sony Computer Entertainment America. It was never released in Europe."
* "This is due, in part, to the presence of former Quest staff members in its development crew, including director Yasumi Matsuno, character designer Akihiko Yoshida, art director Hiroshi Minagawa and composer Hitoshi Sakimoto, all of whom had left Quest to work with Square."
* "It has been announced that a reworked version of Final Fantasy Tactics with widescreen support, updated graphics, new jobs, and cel-shaded FMV will appear on the PlayStation Portable as Final Fantasy Tactics Shishi Sensō, as part of Square Enix's new Ivalice Alliance project."
* "However, one major flaw was its poor localization, which included many mistranslations rendering an 'already complex plot nearly incomprehensible'".
Also, the last reference in the article's reference list is not formatted correctly.
* Yeah, this shouldn't have been nominated quite yet. I have the tactics manual, so I can take care of the gameplay section. I don't think we should really change the plot section much for GA, since it covers the main points (but if we go to FA, we'll need to expand it to attain the comprehensiveness standard). — Deckiller 17:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Two of the three images in the article do not have a fair use rationale.  A fair use rationale similar to the one used for "BattleGrid.jpg" should be added before renomination.
Snottywong 16:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: :Thank you, Snottywong. We'll see what we can do, tackling the references and verifiability, and return to nominate it for GA again. Thanks again. Bluerです。 なにか? 16:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the GA nom may have been a little hasty. I will try to help as much as I can before the next nom. Axem Titanium 16:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All the images have their fair-use rationale placed, hopefully, and the story is verifiable with all the dialog references. Bluerです。 なにか? 05:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response

message: The article should use the feminine pronoun for her. Kariteh 16:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I have made a mistake! I thought I saw Ajora's name there (Ajora's a he). Be my guest and change it back :D . Bluerです。 なにか? 16:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the article seems to claim that Altima was Ajora in the past. I don't think it's that clear in the game, we don't really know if Ajora was Altima "in disguise" all along or if Ajora was just Ultima's human host. I think we should leave the issue as vague as the game left it. Altima was definitely female, but who knows what and WHO Ajora was. Kariteh 16:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Altima's a chick 

message: I think the FFT will be considered a good article self-nomination when it meets the good article critera. This nomination reminds me of the FFXII FA push. I will need some help with that. We have to cite references and/or sources (see WP:CITE). This article has this unreferenced tag:
I will try to improve on the citations to match up with the GA status as explained above. I will have to use references from various sources (such as IGN, Gamespy, Gamespot and the FFT game guide from Brady Games). Good luck, everyone, and I like to say a quote from the Star Wars saga: "May the Force be with you, always". Anything else you want to add? I think a peer review would be considered as well. Sjones23 23:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm amused at your enthusiasm :D, but i had to remove the tag, we know it's there, thanks, and it clutters the talk page. I've started the GA push by rewriting the story section, which is as comprehensive as it gets (the story had a very, very elaborate plot) with all the possibly related dialogs placed in between. Good luck with finding sources for this ol' fella. Like I said, I'm concentrating on the plot section, so the characters or the setting comes next. Bluerです。 なにか? 05:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I do have faith in you, Deck :D! I'm thinking of tackling the plot (character and setting) and reception sections - Bluerです。 なにか? 09:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also have faith in you, Deck! Bluerfn and Deck, good luck! I will help out with you. If any of you have anything for me to work on, let me know. And I quote again from Star Wars: May the force be with you, always! Sjones23 22:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, wait, so far, I added only one source to an unreferenced statement. To make this article a nom for GA, we will add references and/or sources and fix up the issues. Deckiller, Bluerfn an everyone else, any citations to references and/or sources (e.g FFT's official game guide, IGN) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sjones23 21:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA 

message: I added a reference and it is here. Any more references to throw in should be greatly appreciated. Sjones23 20:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Nominated for GA status. — Deckiller 21:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone I know is doing me a favor and reviewing this article early. — Deckiller 21:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Nom 

message: This article meets the GA criteria and I passed it.  Some things you can look at for improvement are: making sure all citations go after punctuation, a good copy-edit, take a look at the reception section it feels too possitive, some criticism of the game would be ideal.  Darthgriz98 21:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: The character page has little chance of being seriously referenced, so it would be better to bolster this article and add some more character detail in preparation for FA status. Judgesurreal777 01:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be quite a bit of unreferenced information in the character bios.  Not to mention, the shear amount of information in that article is too heavy for this one.  Perhaps making summaries of the main characters of the game would suffice (Ramza, Delita, Alma, Ovelia).  Of course, that would essentially mean using some of the information of the article, but it would have better form than just random names slapped into the current paragraphs in the article and would avoid having to sacrifice the biographies of at least 6 other minor characters.
LanceHeart 07:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh definitely, I mean only adding a little bit of the huge amount of information (fancruft) in the character article to this one. Judgesurreal777 16:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: FFT has a pretty large cast; anything more than just the main characters would clutter the article too much. Redxiv 01:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Characters that deserve mention in the mainpage would be Ramza, Delita and Ovelia. Other characters will be mentioned in one simple paragraph, and a link should point to a Characters of FFT page to explain about the other characters. In fact, decrufting the FFT character List is prudent. It should flow like FFXII's mainpage and its characters page, with in-game reference and the like. — Bluerです。 なにか? 02:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The cast of worth to mention characters in FFT is huge, merging the characters article here will really create an extremely cluttered article. Elegarth 14:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, I agree, the character list has gotten overgrown and needs some trimming. Redxiv 05:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: If you guys remember, the character list USED to be on this page, but we moved it because it was getting too large. I vote to leave it where it is. Noah 17:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Noah. No need to merge the characters, especially given how many characters play a vital role in FFT. While the article could be much better sourced, that shouldn't be TOO difficult to do. Cheers, Lanky ○ Yell ○ 14:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. As I said above, it does have a chance to be like FFVIII's character page. It only needs decrufting, trimming, and utmost dedication by editors. — Bluerです。 なにか? 14:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That comes as a big shock to me, since it seems like there is currently no out of universe information on this page....What resources are there for this page? Judgesurreal777 22:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's interesting that the character list was redirected to this article (not merged, as no information whatsoever from the list was put in this article) unilaterally, when it's obvious that no consensus to do so was achieved here. 71.203.209.0 (talk) 22:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of Character article into this article

message: Unlike most of the installments which have a "Music of FF..." article, FFT had only one simple soundtrack, no arranged album, EP, or singles. The FFT OST doesn't really need to have its own article, especially since it's unsourced and its section here is sourced, and is short. Kariteh 17:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a good idea, it will improve this article.Judgesurreal777 22:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would this article need the official OST tracklist? I'll get to it soon if it does, complete with track duration and composer. — Bluerで す。 19:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of Soundtrack article into this article 

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replies: text: It's fixed, no worries. — Bluerで す。 12:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Final fantasy tactics.jpg

message: I have removed some unreliable sources but the change was reverted. I would like to know why they qualify as reliable. One of them was notably a Tripod fanpage. Also, the page for the Game Informer review is missing in the reference, and there is no source for SoundtrackCentral even though it is quoted in the article. Thanks! FFXII International + Paul Rodgers (talk) 15:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tripod fanpage sourced it from the Famitsu magazine - the closest to a reliable source. If a source is not given, there is a better practice than simply tagging it with fact tag and leaving it to someone else to find the source, especially when it can easily be found. We appreciate you being eager to edit, but please don't overdo it. — Blue。 16:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

text: BTW, there wasn't any dead link. It's just a misplaced citation. Edited. — Blue。 16:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable sources! 

message: I think Characters of Final Fantasy Tactics should be redirected here. The characters article has never managed to establish notability with concrete, significant creation and reception details. Furthermore, Final Fantasy Tactics is already a featured article and already explains what one needs to know about the topic in terms of encyclopedic information. For more specific information, the FF Wikia is already linked. Kariteh (talk) 10:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree:  It's been well established that lists of characters are appropriate for wikipedia. 75.148.25.169 (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, what's been established is that articles are appropriate if they comply with WP:N and WP:V among other stuff. Characters of Final Fantasy Tactics currently does not comply, and hasn't shown any potential for improvement over the years. Kariteh (talk) 15:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, articles like Characters of Kingdom Hearts are appropriate due to their significant "Creation and influence", "Merchandise" and "Reception" sections. Articles like Characters of Final Fantasy Tactics can't attain the same level of real-work significance. Kariteh (talk) 15:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

text: It's inevitable. We lack real world content to support this article. But then again, what have we to merge with the main article? The topic should have been redirect ;) — Blue。 17:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a no brainer; it has never been any good, tags in place for years and no improvement because there is no information to improve it with. Definite merge. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

text: List of characters are acceptable without having to prove notability as per WP:SPINOUT without having to prove notability.  See also a discussion on the List of characters in Bully article. McJeff (talk) 23:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as improving the article - give me a week to replay the game and refresh my memory and I'll make some bold changes to the thing. Including digging up some sources - there's bound to be something out there about at least Ramza.  McJeff (talk) 02:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is no notability, no other issue really matters, it shouldn't have its own article if there is no notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can read Japanese McJeff perhaps you will manage to uncover some interesting design information about Ramza, who knows. People tried to find some in English for years and didn't succeed, though. Kariteh (talk) 21:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't speak any Japanese, but it should be possible to request assistance from a Japanese speaking Wikipedian.  But at any rate, I suggest that Judge go ahead and AfD the article, because there's no point in working on one that's under threat. McJeff (talk) 23:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, if there really is some notability that justifies a whole article, fantastic. But you probably need more than one reference to sustain a whole article. But if that doesn't exist, perhaps we should merge it and add more detail and  references to the characters section of the game article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 05:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: I just wanted to give you a quick overview of the improvements I'm about to make and why I consider them necessary:
*Delete last sentence in first paragraph of Reception: The fact that FF Tactics was re-released as a Greatest Hits title is mentioned in the section “Versions and re-releases”. In addition July 2001 was seven years ago and thus it is quite confusing to read this sentence as if it hadn’t happened yet.
*Rephrasing of second sentence in first parapgraph of Versions and Rereleases: The original phrasing of the sentence was a bit awkward; the edit improves readability and comprehensibility.
*Rephrasing of last paragraph in Legacy: The phrasing of this paragraph was confusing with the double mention of the FF XII release. In addition it should be noted that “FFT: War of the Lions” is also part of the newly formed Ivalice Alliance. Furthermore one of the links pointing to a citation (99) was dead, however, the necessary information could also be found in the other existing citation (98) and thus I removed this citation.
128.237.238.204 (talk) 22:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Citation was working during my edit so I left it in.128.237.238.204 (talk) 22:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements 

message: Very nice article.
This reference is slightly inaccurate:
Number 50
Velius: Why, why is Virgo responding? You...can't be... Very nice! I didn't expect to meet you here! I thought it would take 100 years to find you! I never dreamed you were the one!Squaresoft. Final Fantasy Tactics. (Square Co.). PlayStation. (1997-06-20)
Velius is not the character who says this in Riovanes castle. At this point, Velius has been slain and Ramza is fighting Elmdor on the roof. This quote is made by Vormov, the only remaining Shrine Knight after the battle at Riovanes (His son Izlude and Weigraf a.k.a. Velius are both killed). It is at this point that he kidnaps Alma and proceeds with his plans to attempt to resurrect Altima. This happens in the room where Vormav transforms into Lucavi and slaughters multiple Riovanes knights, and his own son Izlude.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.252.2 (talk) 15:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOFIXIT. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: It's pretty vague really, and the cause of MUCH discussion over the years among fans of the game. Probably best to look at what reliable sources say happen and use that (and even better if it can mention the vagueness). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated reference 

message: Where it says "[...] apparently resulting in Delita's death shortly after the end of the story." When I played the game (several times), I was always under the impression that Delita was just wounded here. He gets stabbed by someone who isn't very powerful, and Delita was a strong as a tank. We never see him die, and the reference for this quote does not indicate his death.Cylith (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty vague really, and the cause of MUCH discussion over the years among fans of the game. Probably best to look at what reliable sources say happen and use that (and even better if it can mention the vagueness). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: We have articles for each episode of Scrubs but not a character page for FFT characters? Wow. 199.117.69.8 (talk) 21:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the character page? 

message: Why romanise the katakana? Why transliterate into katakana in the first place? What relevance has this little linguistic exercise in the first place? JIMp talk·cont 23:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Howatto izu za pointo? 

message: Posting a publication by a game magazine that speculates about a game designer's influences does not prevent original research from being original research. Its speculative, holds no relevancy to the game itself, which is what the article is about. If we allow these edits then wiki articles would be filled with different theories and speculations backed up by sources and we don't need that. Thanks.
67.205.215.175
:Please read WP:verifiability and wp:original research before you revert again. An "original research" is a claim made by Wikipedian user without reliable source. This means we don't limit ourselves from quoting research or speculation made by reliable source. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 23:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculative original research regarding influences from the Catholic Church 

message: Hello, I wanted to let you know about this on going discussion, about whether soundtrack album covers should be included in the articles about the game's they are from. I know the outcome might also affect this page so I encourage you to join the discussion. (Floppydog66 (talk) 04:41, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion on VG Soundtracks

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