Wikipedia talk:Community portal/Archive 3

message: Please help me revert a redirect (I don't know how).  Right now, the original melasma article is redirected to melasma praegnans, and there is a new article as melasma.  The problem is, there isn't a "melasma praegnans" - it's a made up name.  The accepted medical name for this condition is melasma, or chloasma, or mask of pregnancy.  This person also wrote other nonsensical articles melasma suprarenale and Atromeroptic Law (no such optics law).  All his edits are suspect (as I noted on VfD page on his invention called the Wehner blower and its various redirects). Hfwd 23:12, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Melasma Redirect

message: Please see user:ScapegoatVandals edits and make your own judgements. He is making all the time modifications which are based on unsure claims, even racist ideologies. I cant talk him all the time and try to correct the pages. Tuohirulla 18:20, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, you are telling them to do the opposite things at once and it should prove inconclusive.  I am learning to handle this myself, after recognising that I don't need others to vilify for me or pretend that my innaccuracies are somehow glistening with truth and glamour.  ScapegoatVandal 18:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: These problems should not be handled by edit wars, but by open discussion. You force your opinions in the articles all the time, and i have no time to undo them. Still this does not mean i am wrong, as you seem to think.  Tuohirulla 18:31, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hahaha, talk about hypocrisy!  You are doing just the same as you libeled me.  I call for neutrality based upon the sources, since they are inconclusive.  You prefer to call it absolute truth with a Midas touch!  ScapegoatVandal 18:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I request neutral intervention from other users. This can not be handled like this. Tuohirulla 18:36, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All it takes, is for you to see it from an outer perspective.  Ancestry.com doesn't think your Morton guy is Finnish, but Swedish along with most online sources!  This is THE prevalent and commonest belief!  Oh and another thing...don't casually call people racist in ideology.  Don't play the race card and people will respect you far more than they do now.  ScapegoatVandal 18:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As an argument to prove your claims you tell me to look my "mongol eyes" at the mirror, and you say I user race card :) As an agrumuent of your comment you "analyze" my racial outlook, and you decide my opinions are caused by my racial features, and you say, I use race card.  LOL!! Come on, you know you are a racist as well as anyone else who looks what you have wrote. Tuohirulla 19:02, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Acknowledging the differences between us, does in fact show that I do not wear "rose-coloured-eyeglasses".  I see things for what they are and don't bullshit anybody.  I mince no words.  Perhaps you can use this to your advantage when pushing your special brand of truth in articles.  ScapegoatVandal 19:08, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: So you "know" my racial appearance. Gimme a break!!! I dont think you are worth to be discussed with. You should be bloced for your personal mockery and continuing vandalism Tuohirulla 19:16, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know all about you except what you tell me and that is speculative at best.  It is indeed absolute fact that the Swedes introduced their phenotype to Finland by colonisation and also from Tornedalians intermarrying with local Swedes.  Finland-Swedish carry this physique, far more than Ethnic Finns.  This is general knowledge to anybody even with rudimentary educations from any Europeanistic society.  What you call my vandalism is in fact an attempt to keep neutrality afloat.  No need to get upset that the NPOV truth of history is contained within the blood that pumps your veins.  Just because Uralics may have possibly lived in Arctic Europe for longer than other Europeans, doesn't make them White.  We already know that much of early White European civilisation was concentrated in the Mediterranean Sea basin, which would count Uralic peoples out of the question.  Blonde hair is not a native-natural trait of Finns, while Sweden-Finnish often are darker than regular Swedes.  ScapegoatVandal 19:41, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Please stop a vandal

message: It's still not working, just a link to hotniss.com, which I assume is either a prank site or a porn site.
Somebody trashed the Community Portal pages, so I tried to revert it, following the instructions I found at Wikipedia:How_to_revert_a_page_to_an_earlier_version but the revert doesn't seem to be taking. Weirdly, though, the markup text in the edit box seems to be the correct, reverted version, but that's not what's displaying on the page. Now I'm hoping that nobody sees my revert and thinks I'm a vandal. 69.160.182.110 11:23, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to use the flush cache link (c.f. the link near the top of the page) Mr. Jones 17:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Trying to revert vandalism

message: Should we dump those?  Looks pretty horrid.  I know I can change it meself, but I'm wondering if htere's a reason for them? --62.255.64.9 03:53, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems someone recently included an extra variable to the  and  templates to specify the background colour. This user neglected to actually specify the background colour on this page after making the change, which caused the templates to render an unreadable black. I've specified a white background colour, which should make things readable again. -- Hadal 04:10, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I did that. What browser are you using? Not specifying it resulted in the default to me. 119 04:13, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: IE (yes, laugh if you will). It's not the best browser, but a significant number of surfers use it. That's why I keep it installed; to make sure any changes I make won't crap things up. You made your changes to those templates without any prior discussion; this was improper. I can't easily test on other browsers, but without specifying the variable the templates render with a black background colour. So, on every page featuring the templates without a specified variable, they're now unreadable to a sizeable portion of users. This is why it's important to discuss non-trivial changes to major templates before making those changes. I've half a mind to undo your edits, but I hope you might do so voluntarily. -- Hadal 04:21, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Having identified a problem that affects a 'major template', you're just sitting on your hands hoping it will be fixed? I didn't know there was a problem, I've now fixed the problem. A friendly reminder that you shouldn't order or lecture. 119 04:31, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have reverted immediately, but I wasn't aware your changes were undiscussed until after I fixed the rendering on this page (which is the most visiible page using the templates). Fixing one's own mistakes is a good learning experience, I've found. As for "lecturing" you: I'm sorry if my perceived tone bothered you (it was not intended to be hostile), but without pointing out your faux pas, you may easily have repeated it in future. We all make mistakes; we can only hope to learn from them. -- Hadal 04:43, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the black boxes? 

message: Has anyone ever wondered why only the main COTW is featured. I think we could add under that just a short list of the other COTW's (there are really only about three others that are active) and their current articles. I think this would give them more attention and spark interest, not to mention the overall goal which is to improve the articles. Any suggestions? --Dmcdevit 04:39, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More COTW's 

message: Looking for suitable templates to use, I noticed that there is no link to Wikipedia:Template messages on the Community Portal; only Wikipedia:Boilerplate text is listed. The latter page seems to be deprecated and suggests using the former instead. Shouldn't the link therefore be updated to point to the Template message page instead? --Plek 00:10, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Added: I just discovered that the "Custom messages" link actually points to the Wikipedia:Template messages page (via a redirect)! That's rather confusing. How about deleting the "Boilerplate text" link and rename "Custom messages" to "Template messages"? --Plek 00:15, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replace link to Wikipedia:Boilerplate text? 

message: Is there some reason the Community Portal doesn't have a shortcut as almost all major pages do? Surely this is one of the most common. --Dmcdevit 04:32, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the left-hand side menu (in the default MonoBook skin), so it probably doesn't need one. -- Curps 04:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh duh! (you mean we don't have a shortcut to the Main Page?) :) Disregard that. --Dmcdevit 04:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortcut? 

message: AlistairMcMillan is continualy removing sections of the Prometheus Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prometheus_class_starship
He has been told to stop repeatedly and its been pointed out the information he is removing is canon and he has no position to remove it.
-Alyeska
: It isn't vandalism, it's a content dispute.  The term "canon" has no established  meaning on Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia and not a fan site.  Please continue to discuss the matter with this user, who as far as I can see is offering perfectly reasonable arguments supporting his removals.  Perhaps a good compromise would be to have a separate section for specifications and the like which are from sources that are not considered canon, or are disputed.  --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to suggest a compromise on this issue.  We can hope that this will stop the edit war Bluap 15:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reporting vandalism

message: Far out!!! Speedys are taking forever to be deleted tonight. netbux has been around for about half an hour! i mean i wrtoe a good article about netbux, and it got deleted via vfd. which i'm cool about - but then some bad guy goes and writes a crappy ad for netbux, using a referal number. plus there is a heap of other shit on speedy that hasn't been deleted yet. we need more admins from Aus, cause they can be on wiki about now, its like 6 oclock here. THE KING 07:58, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to remove the referral number when this happens. If the article is constantly recreated, then we may have to have a protected redirect to pyramid scheme, as you or someone else suggested, but we try to avoid having protected pages.-gadfium 08:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedy deletes 

message: Is there any restriction on taking this page's format to a public domain wiki?   The page in question is http://libertarianwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Libertarian_Wiki:Community_Portal , and while I'd be more than willing to provide whatever credit is necessary, the founder seems pretty adamant about wanting to avoid "infecting" his wiki, which is understandable I suppose. -- PhilipR 00:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright on this page's format? 

message: I think that the COTW information should be moved to the left side of the page. Phoenix2 20:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Format

message: Is there any way we can advertise the newly created but very important Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles on this page? thanks Bluemoose 21:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it in at the bottom.--Zxcvbnm 12:01, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles]] 

message: I found out about the WP:NAC here at Community Portal. I don't know how I would have found otherwise. Can we get it back or was it removed for good reason?  hydnjo talk 20:50, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed because it gets very little use, is poorly updated, and the Community Portal was piling up with too many of different people's pet projects in the featured boxes, so some had to be dropped. I've suggested that this be merged with Wikipedia:Goings-on, as the two have similar functionality now and combining them would leave fewer pages that need to be maintained. --Michael Snow 05:39, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Nooks and corners of Wikipedia that should be frequented]]

message: Why does the spanish translation project get such a prominent place? Am I missing something? r3m0t talk 15:00, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
*Collaborations of the week have always gotten a prominent place on the Community portal, because that's what Wikipedia is all about. (Most other announcements on this page are static, some outdated and in boring list format.) On the contrary, all collaborations should get better and more prominent space on this page.--Fenice 15:12, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish translation 

message: I've heard some of the other-language projects occasionally declare periods of collaboration on particular backlogs.  Several people on en seem to have proposed that we do such a thing, but not much has come of these suggestions.  Our wikification backlog seems like a good candidate, since it's gotten quite large, and almost anyone can participate, whether or not they're familiar with article content.  So, would anyone object if I added this box to the top of the Community Portal for the appropriate period?  Feel free to improve it if you like. -- Beland 04:05, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikification week? 

message: could anyone explain why non-commercial and by permission images are being deleted?
:See Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Rationale. -- Beland 00:53, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Please contribute. Revolución 03:29, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: African COTW

message: The CotW is apparently History of South America, but the description still points to last week's South America article. I'm not sure if this is something an Admin needs to fix. :) — RJH 15:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of South America CotW 

message: Anyoe else think this would be a good idea? I don't have the skills or time to do this myself, but hopefully there'd be enough support that someone would be able to set this up. Richy 14:20, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Art/Architecture Collaberation of the week