Talk:DM Ashura

message: I see no reason for this page to be deleted, it has made great progress since the original version that passed from being deleted the first time. Also with the release of DMA's album and rising popularity as more than just a "online music artist" (i.e. live concerts scheduled to be played in the US) I see no reason why DMA's article can not be kept. --NekoD 06:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The AFD was put on by an anonymous user, and didn't make a AFD discussion page for the new discussion. After a few hours of not following procedure, you can assume that it's dead, and can remove it. I have. PumeleonT 14:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Possible Deletion

message: I mean, The whole MAX fiasco, should it be explained so people that don't know what MAX is won't get in troble on sites where discussion of it is prohibited? ToyoWolf 11:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well, look at the StepMania News Queue. MAX was one of the songs DM Ashura was hoping to get into an official DDR, and probably because so many people pirated it, he couldn't, so he relunctantly released it to the public. people like ShadowmanX who were advertising they have the simfile and the MP3 lead to that. Megaman Z 11:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAX Leak/Controversy 

message: People should 1) make a backup of this page in case it gets deleted and 2) find another wiki that will take the article even if its not as notable as other things.  You can probably find such a wiki @ www.wikia.com (I found one, Electronic Music Wiki)  --Notmyhandle 09:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Deletion 

message: Is that really neccesary, anymore? Excepting the track listing, which came from DM Ashura himself, and is not likely to be questioned, almost every other bit of information has a source. I mean, there's seven sources for this article now, on this one-and-a-half page article. Isn't that enough to remove the OR/UC template? Pumeleon 17:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Second Comment - I really fail to understand how it can be tagged as unreliable when there are sources that meet all criteria for being a reliable and verifiable source. I would like to know how anything linked to is either unreliable or unverifiable. There were certainly no responses to my fufilling the challenges of finding sources for statements in the AfD page. Furthermore, the closing admin stated that the issue was not addressed. I tend to disagree since I addressed every question of sourcing in said AfD page. Pumeleon 04:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Third Comment - I'm failing to see the unreliability too. Can someone clarify how it fails to meet the criteria? If there's no legit issue, then I'm opposed to deletion. TBH, I thought the references were very reliable. If there are issues they can be edited, deletion isn't necessary here. Lunarctic 10:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Read WP:POINT (especially about gaming the system), WP:MEATPUPPET, and WP:ACM before editing again. Pumeleon 09:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:DICK, WP:AGF, please. 65.118.187.102 15:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's REALLY difficult to assume good faith when the poster makes comments like "hahaha pwned" when the page gets blanked or "dmashura has a wikipedia article? hahah". Good faith is for people who don't consistently troll and have a history of disruption and blocks for these things. Pumeleon 09:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: No it's not. The O2Jam reference says that you were well-known, not that your music was popular. Please stop adding unsourced material, especially to your own article. --SPUI (T - C) 22:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking over it again, it says that "he is well-known...for his music". Using that context, saying his music was popular in the community is saying the same thing, since without the music he wouldn't be well-known. --Coredesat 22:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your argument doesn't make any sense; if you think "saying his music was popular in the community is saying the same thing", then the disputed clause is redundant to the previous sentence, which says that "he was known in the music game community for remixes of songs". It did say well-known originally, but someone (not me) changed it. --SPUI (T - C) 22:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, looking at it again, I see what you mean - just change the "was" to "is" in the last sentence and it should be sorted out. --Coredesat 23:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research and unverified claims? 

message: Okay. I understand that wikipedia articles need to site its sources, but wow. Does there need to be a reference for every single line of text? Visit pages like Hypnoskull, 4 Strings, even DJ Tiesto, and you won't even find a reference list. The level of nitpicking in this article is high. Any rational reason for it?Eshmasesh 00:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because SPUI is disruptive, mainly. He enjoys gaming the system to troll. You see, he dosn't like the fact that this page exists. So he took any attempt he could to complain about it, not expecting there to be this many sources. He can only move the goalposts so far.  Pumeleon 06:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop with the personal attacks. Voretustalk 14:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, SPUI has been doing you all a favor by insisting on the documentation. He easily could have taken the article to WP:AfD - and the general mood of the regulars over there is not cut too much slack on articles involving gaming and the Internet (articles about podcasts, for example, have been deleted with regularity - as have articles on software). Right now, if this is over there, I'd have a hard time seeing how this would meet WP:MUSIC, so don't tee off on someone who is helping you (and any look at my contribution history shows a long stretch of butting heads with SPUI), but tie up those loose ends in case someone decides that the article must go. B.Wind 19:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, he already did. Voretustalk 20:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You can never have too many references. �Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia policies state that if there isn't published text, then even if it's fact it shouldn't appear on wikipedia.  --Notmyhandle 23:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for EVERYTHING? 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 11:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I would like to take the opportunity to point out that the rumor of DM Ashura's involvent in the furry fandom is, in fact, just a rumor. He attanded a con (I don't remember which one) to DJ at a rave because someone invited him. Mr. Shillito is not a member of the Fandom, nor is he a homosexual. Tomi Undergallows (talk) 18:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if he was a homosexual furry, I don't think that would belong in the article. It's about him as a DJ, not every detail of his personal life. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I just wanted to point out that on top of it not encyclopedic, it's just not true. Tomi Undergallows (talk) 18:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disregard that, I was misinformed :' Tomi Undergallows (talk) 21:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumors about Bill (RE to recent vandalism) 

message: He is also an avid Sonic fan [],and goes to GMC[].~Tailsman67~ 98.71.52.245 (talk) 16:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot something,[],[].03:38, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic 

message: Whenever you click on DM Ashura's website, you get a typical ad website now, which makes me think he let his payments lapse for that domain.  I would suggest removing the citation that cites his website and his website from the external links for now until his website can be found again. Razorflame 18:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Over 2 years later and it's still down. 73.43.137.111 (talk) 23:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website is no longer there