Talk:The Host (novel)

message: So, am I the only one who feels she's ripped off Body Snatchers and gotten away with it?
If I were to write a story about a giant Gorilla being worshiped by a tribe on a far off island and call it Primate, would I sell thousands of books and be blasted all over NYT Best Sellers list?
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Maybe if you told it from King Kong's point of view - that'd be original... This is Invasion of the Body Snatchers from the Body Snatcher's point of view - and thus original. Also, unlike Invasion - this, oddly enough, is romance rather than horror. Don't pick on Meyer just cause of the plague of drooling fan-girls Twightlight gave us. ;)
reply: i agree dont say things about meyer if u dont like her than dont read her books ;P
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Yeah, it was the first thing that came to mind: total ripoff of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Then thinking about it a bit more, it is also reminiscent of Stargate where a parasitic species called the Goa'uld take control of human beings without any regard for the mind of the hosts. Some human hosts can exert a measure of resistance to their "occupants"; there also exists a faction of this species called the Tok'ra who have a truly symbiotic relationship with their hosts instead of "inhabiting" their bodies forcibly. The Tok'ra are also influenced by the personality, ideals, morality and experiences of their hosts.
So...not exactly an original plot for a novel.
--Easuter (talk) 02:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Invasion

message: It would be MUCH better if there wasn't a characters section in the article, and probably better if we had a better plot summary than a list of characters. ~ Bella Swan? 01:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means, trim it down. It could definitely use some cleanup. Andrea (talk) 05:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I did some initial edits of the character descriptions because they were screaming "Mary Sue" and it was extremely annoying. Some of them are direct quotes from the book so I put them in quotes. But...it still needs trimming down. I'm just not patient enough to swim through the sugar... 86.27.189.195 (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters Section

message: I've made a new plot summary, as I wasn't sure that the one provided on the back cover of the book was exactly adequate. However, it is extraordinarily LONG--if someone would like to cut it down, feel free. I'm planning on extending other sections so it's a bit more proportionate, but until then, do what you will to fix it! Thanks! DreamHaze (talk) 05:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the character section was removed, but I think someone added it again. It is not needed. It's basically an extension of the plot summary, which we definitly don't need. ~ Bella Swan? 01:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I'm adding OTHER sections, is what I meant--things to balance out the proportions of plot summary. Thanks for the help! DreamHaze (talk) 03:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

text: While I agree that the plot summary is still a bit too long, a spoiler warning hardly seems necessary. Wikipedia is known to contain spoilers as it is an encyclopedia. I mentioned above, actually, that Wikipedia's spoiler policy is that Wikipedia contains spoilers and they aren't supposed to be removed. You can check out the Wikipedia:Content Disclaimer as well as Wikipedia:Spoiler for more information, but that was my understanding. Good point to bring up though! DreamHaze (talk) 05:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

text: If you look at the article's history, it seems more likely that other sites actually copied the plot summary from here. You can find similarities between the most recent summary and the revisions that were present in 2009 (possibly even further back, I didn't check that far), though it has clearly evolved bit by bit over time to become quite different—not at all once, as if someone had copy and pasted it from another site. The only source used for it is the book itself, which is probably not ideal but is common for plot summaries even in Featured Articles. I'm in favour of trimming it down (the characters section too), but I don't think it needs to be completely deleted until then. We can work with what is there. Andrea (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the wording was word for word copied from the book's website.  The Mark of the Beast (talk) 06:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which site, this one? Andrea (talk) 12:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  The Mark of the Beast (talk) 18:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, I'd like to know exactly what you think was copied; I see nothing in the latest plot summary that looks like it was taken from that synopsis. Andrea (talk) 21:27, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot Summary

message: There's so many people in this book, should we add a page for the characters? We might even be able to add individual pages, like for Wanda, and Melanie. And if not, we could still make a List of Characters in The Host page, right? I'm not sure if anyone else feels that way. Keyblade Mage (talk) 06:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A list of characters on this page would be best. :) I don't think any individual character of The Host is notable enough to have the amount background and reception information warranting separate articles. --PeaceNT (talk) 06:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters Page? 

message: The plot summary listed on the main page does not appear to have a descrpition of what a soul is, though reading it through implies that it was there. If anybody knows where it's hidden, could you please return it. (and for the person above, wikipedia is not a questiona nd anwser based service, and explicit activity is confined to the last few chapters, though hinted at before)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.138.106 (talk) 19:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not just that, it's completely jumbled and in-universe. I can't make head or tails of it. Can someone rewrite it so that people who haven't read the book will understand what's going on? TomorrowTime (talk) 08:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot summary

message: I was about to get this book until I remembered where I saw the theme before -- Man of Two Worlds by Frank and Brian Herbert. This is not a diss on Ms Meyer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabinal (talk • contribs) 04:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Man of Two Worlds, again 

message: I just edited the plot summary to better describe what souls do to the original human personality. Without going too far into the plot, the original human personality (needs a better word) is still there but almost always unable to express itself. LovesMacs (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soul description not quite accurate 

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message: Where does the information come from that the author was inspired by an Italian film from the 60s to create her book? I couldn't find any article or news about it anywhere other than a person on the site Quora linking the information, but it goes from there to here. That is, the only one to talk outside of Wikipedia about it, uses it as a base. I would love to know, thanks in advance -- Historicallyeditor (talk) 20:33, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really inspired by a movie?