Talk:Military order (religious society)

message: Added Knight's Templar flag.   Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  00:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: or better name Knights of the Cross with the Red Star because this order is Czech, so official name is Czech Křižovnický řád rytířů s červenou hvězdou and there is not anything about "crusaders" or "military" (in fact, the Orders wasnt military). In Ackermann are names "Orden vom Kreuz mit dem rothern Stern" , in official pages  are many names in Latin as Canonici Regulares Sanctissimae Crucis a stella rubea, Crucigeri cum rubea stella, Crucigeri stellati, Stelliferi, Křížovníci s červenou hvězdou, Křížovníci. On other page of one church attached to the Order, himself is called Knights of the Cross with the Red Star (see )So, other test "Knights of the Cross.." 729 ghits, "Military orders.." 0 ghits. Be honest, I found one citation of this name in old Catholic Encyclopedia here, but this entry is full of incorrect fact. The Order wasn't in  the Holy Land and was founded in Bohemia, so connotation to Crusaders is simply false. This Order is and was "military" only in pure ceremonial way, and it is mainly hospitaller order. --Yopie 02:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Many "Crusaders" never fought in the Holy Land. Many Crusades weren't directed at the Holy Land. I have provided a citation, but the Latin provided at the article is already evidence enough. Srnec (talk) 04:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Story about "Betlemites" as predecessors of Knights of the Cross is common error (as Order of Tutsin, or one Order of the Christ). Knights of the Cross were founded by pope Gregory IX in 1237 (bull Omnipotens Deus) and by princess St. Agnes. You cited Walsh, but he wrote about the Order only few lines and without sources/references. My opinion is based on Milan Buben, Encyklopedie řádů a kongregací(annotation) and Ivan Koláčný "Řády a vyznamenání" (with English resume, I can scan it and send  to you by email). I will search for more sources on-line and in English.--Yopie 10:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Here is publication, published by the Order itself, under name The Treasure of the Order of the Knights of the Cross with the Red Star.  Same name is in Britanica I hope, thats all we need for official English name of the Order. --Yopie 21:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Order of the Crusaders of the Red Star 

message: This page has the Hospitallers and the Knights of Malta listed separately, with different dates of founding... but the Knights of Malta aka Sovereign Military Order of Malta _are_ the Knights Hospitaller... they are the modern version of them. Why list them separately? Especially with different dates of founding? Leecharleswalker (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hospitallers / Knights Malta 

message: It's strange and misleading that "Orders of Chivalry" redirect to Military order and "Orders of chivalry" redirects to Chivalric order. --79.20.253.233 (talk) 22:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Orders of Chivalry" and "Orders of chivalry" 

message: A list of requirements for an organization to be a true military order or various types of orders and the requirements for each type would be helpful,if I had not done further link clicking I would have been un aware that an order must have a fount of honor.  If it doesn't it's a self styled order, self styled orders were mentioned but a full list of requirements would be a good addition to the page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlathropn (talk • contribs) 20:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirements to be a Military order 

message: Like a lot of historiography, the article assumes that military orders originated after the first crusade. But in a later section, it lists the Order of Saint James of Altopascio which was founded in 1070. To my knowledge, similar institutions existed in Spain, too. There is no doubt that the crusades helped the military orders to become important, but I would like to see a more detailed account in the article. -- Zz (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of military orders 

message: :In 1820, José Antonio Conde suggested they were modeled on the ribat, a fortified religious institution which brought together a religious way of life with fighting the enemies of Islam. However popular such views may have become, others have criticized this view, suggesting there were no such ribats around the Outremer until after the military orders had been founded.
How popular have such views become?  Indeed, what are "such views" (as opposed to the specific stated view)?  Who are these others that have criticized it?  Is the "suggestion" that there were no ribats around there supported by evidence, or just their own speculation? Iapetus (talk) 14:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{Weasel-inline}}/ {{fact}} 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Military order (monastic society)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Davies":
From Livonia: 
From Order of Saint Stephen: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Military order (monastic society)]] 

message: The article begins by stating that the first orders were the Templars, Hospitallers, etc., but later, in the chart of orders, the Order of the Holy Sepulchre is listed first. There is no primary evidence of this. Citations are needed for the bull of Paschal II, and I have serious concerns about the recognition of the 'Militi Sancti Sepulcri' that is claimed, especially since the plural of 'miles' is not 'militi' but 'milites'. No other primary source evidence is cited for this claim. What seems far more likely is that members of the later chivalric order misinterpreted the primary sources of the period to lend greater age and authority to their order.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.65.80.128 (talk) 02:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is no evidence for the Order of the Holy Sepulchre existing before the Templars 

message: milena 191.156.248.36 (talk) 04:11, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milena ovalle llinas  

message: Milena ovalle llinas 191.156.240.119 (talk) 04:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrecho