Talk:Crips

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Stanley "Tookie" Williams is not a co-founder of the crips, he only claimed that title in hopes that the State of California would spare his life on death row and because Raymond Washington, who was killed in 1979 was not alive to dispute. Tookie joined the crips much later. Raymond "Truck" Washington is the sole founder of the crips on the east side of south los Angeles. Raymond later, in 1971 convinced an existing gang called the Smaks in 100 streets on the west side of South Los Angeles to become Crips and take the name West Side Crips, while Raymond converted his gang on the other side of the 110 freeway to the East Side Crips. After this merger/conversion, Tookie abandoned his Al Capones ganag and became a west side crip and assumed leadership because of his size as a bodybuilder. 
172.127.5.11 (talk) 16:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: IP added refs in retrospect. I fixed some of the wikitext — Andy W. (talk) 18:03, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2016 

message: Wrong membership 1999 the crips was 35,000 2017 will be 80,000  Moneymake10000000r (talk) 04:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: , this needs a source for the 2017 value - can you point to one? I've flagged the 30-35,000 figure as being undated, as the 2013 book source doesn't appear to give a date for the figure. --McGeddon (talk) 08:29, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have proof look up how powerful street gangs are you will see the real membership 50,000 Moneymake10000000r (talk) 16:59, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

text: How powerful street gangs on YouTube  Moneymake10000000r (talk) 17:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Please give a specific link to the video you're talking about (and the timestamp at which the claim is made, ideally). Thanks. --McGeddon (talk) 17:04, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: 0:56 Moneymake10000000r (talk) 17:29, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Did you get the link Moneymake10000000r (talk) 17:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You didn't give me a link, but it looks like you're talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ0wEdBG_Pk, a NowThis News segment which says that the Crips "claim between 30 and 50,000 members in the US" while displaying "~30,000-50,000 members" on screen. The segment doesn't attribute any particular source for this information, which makes it seem rather weaker than (having dug through the currently cited statistic) a 2008 Department of Justice report that put the numbers at 30-35,000. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ocgs/gallery/criminal-street-gangs, dated 2015, uses the same figure. --McGeddon (talk) 17:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

text: The video doesn't suggest 80,000 as a figure. A video using a statistic from Wikipedia would be much less reliable than a Department of Justice report. --McGeddon (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not only does the unreliable video not say 80,000, it says "between 30 and 50,000". Guess what? 35,000 IS between 30 and 50,000. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong membership  

message: I would like to edit because the Crips and Bloods do not rival. After crip/blood high ranking gang members and rappers Snoop Dogg and the Game were able to negotiate a truce between many of 30,000 sets. Jewels Royal (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You may edit this and other semi-protected pages after your account is at least 4 days old and you have at least 10 edits.   If you add or change anything ot the article, cite your sources.  See WP:REFB for help on that.   RudolfRed (talk) 18:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2017 

message: People have to stop puting Nortenos as rivals, I lived  Northern California rest of my life and I have family member who are Nortenos. Nortenos are allies with Bloods and Crips Arturodimas11 (talk) 20:59, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bloods are not rivals with Nortenos 

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message: Remove the section in History, about Denver. This is in the wrong place, does not make sense and is not sourced. 2001:630:53:B79:E41A:EE6E:583C:E9CB (talk) 12:30, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, I've reverted the (quite recent) addition as unsourced. Thanks. –72 (talk) 13:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2018 

message: List the Black Disciples as they’re rival gang because BD is also a Blood set from Chicago Illinois and you should list the Gangster Disciples as the Crips alliance because they claim the color blue to that’s why  ORB 559 (talk) 06:24, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: To add material -- enemies, allies, etc. -- we need a reliable source for the information. - SummerPhDv2.0 04:34, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: To change material -- enemies, allies, etc. -- we need a reliable source for the information. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  BD and Crip  

message: No one calls Crips the "original crip homies".  This is completely made up. Hotboyxroshi (talk) 06:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick search failed to find any reliable sources for OCH, so I have removed it for now. Greyjoy talk 06:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Crip Homies 

message: Under allies don't forget to mention the Armenian Power gang Bozi Txa (talk) 05:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 05:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2019 

message: It is not mentioned that the crips are allied with the Simon City Royals 213.139.159.182 (talk) 13:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

text: We can't add who their besties are without a reliable source. - SummerPhDv2.0 19:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2020 

message: Please OliverNorton53 (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2020 

message: Norteños should be added as Crip rivals as well. 2600:1700:7B9E:CF00:D8C9:B9FF:FEFB:D981 (talk) 19:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2021 

message: Change
"Therefore the gang’s initial phase of growth and popularity can be in someway, directly traced back to the explosion of" 
To
"Therefore the gang’s initial phase of growth and popularity can, in some way, be directly traced back to the explosion of" NoelyNoelyNoel (talk) 13:52, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: DigitalChutney (talk) 15:00, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2022 

message: Set of crips who reside within South Central Los Angeles. The cliques consist of 52nd st (Five Deuce) and 112th st (Eleven Deuce). 2600:1700:C720:67E0:583C:63F1:9020:7328 (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadway Gangster Crips 

message: The line, "The Bloods are the Crips' main stereotypical rival. The Bloods initially formed to provide members protection from the Crips.", should be changed to, "The Bloods are the Crips' main stereotypical rival. The Bloods initially formed to provide Pirus Street Gang members protection from the Crips." for clarity. PyroTheGr8 (talk) 15:36, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aoidh (talk) 01:24, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2022 

message: The line, "The Bloods are the Crips' main stereotypical rival. The Bloods initially formed to provide members protection from the Crips.", should be changed to, "The Bloods are the Crips' main stereotypical rival. The Bloods initially formed to provide Piru Street Gang members protection from the Crips." for clarity. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Bloods-gang Paragraph 2. PyroTheGr8 (talk) 19:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Lemonaka (talk) 00:10, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2022 

message: - Whisper - Outsider;
X: crip name change;
remove 'blood' rival;
Y: name change crypt;
//who the fuck put crip not crypt I confused bedazzled what? Wal shool???!
new category: "Debatable" group(s);
'blood'
- zoe //would most likely kill all 'fellow' inits old ancient AproblemGrill (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2022