Talk:Stormfront (website)/Archive 1

message: I have requested that Stormfront be moved to Stormfront (online site) and that what is now Stormfront (disambiguation) become Stormfront.  This would make it so that someone who typed Stormfront in the search box would first come to the disambiguation page and choose among the four meanings; currently they come to the hate group site but are informed that other meanings exist.
Rationale:
1. There are multiple legitimate meanings for the word, all used with regularity, enough so that each produces hundreds of thousands of hits on the web. When I Google each term I get these hits:
* Stormfront and white: 394,000 
* Stormfront and game: 230,000 
* Stormfront/Storm front and Joel: 1,154,000 
* Stormfront/Storm front and rain: 5,424,000 
This meets one of the key Wikipedia standards for a disambiguation page being the default page.  
2. No guilt by association: Billy Joel's album title, for example, should not be a notation in the opening of an article about a racist hate group, since his presence in the hate group article links him to them, however coincidentally. The fact that Joel comes from a Jewish family that was forced to flee the Nazis makes "routing" the reference to his album through the stormfront.org all the more inappropriate.
The same consideration applies for Stormfront Studios, a video game design company, which took the name as a weather-based mataphor before stormfront.org came to prominence. 
3.  Although the Billy Joel album is spelled as two words, storm front and stormfront are often used (and accepted) as variant spellings by native speakers of English. 
4. Taking the default meaning of the English word and assigning it to stormfront.org is in fact giving the hate site a prominence it does not deserve, and actually serves the people who promote it. Listing it as one of the meanings of the word seems better balanced. 
Thanks for considering this, and my apologies for initiating this in the wrong way by copying the page. I commit to fixing the remaining links (I already did the 30 or so that were not talk pages or Wiki admin archives) once the move is made.Coll7 05:45, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you move the article, use the move function, don't just copy and paste the contents, so the article would preserve the page history. Also, the Billy Joel is "Storm Front", not "Stormfront", so, we're not talking about the same word. bogdan | Talk 03:28, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Move made to Stormfront (online site) and Stormfront made a disambiguation page.  Please comment here with any concerns, suggestions, etc. Coll7 00:41, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the Disambiguation Page was Created

message: Has anyone noticed a Scientology tactic? I get unexpected results when say looking for a Scottish Gaelic phrase to this site. For the record I have been extremely surprised and impressed by the intelligence of posters to this site when googling Parsis (and reading out of curiousity their views on anthropology and racialism), etc., but their premise is skewed IMHO - though I am ultimately confused by the various ideologies. Anyway, the Ancient Egyptians were mulattos, et cetera ad infinituum! Was their civilization not superior? Obligitory opinion out of the way, seriously, what's up with the search engine tactic? Khirad 12:06, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Search Engines