Talk:Dumarsais Simeus

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:Yep. This is about Dumarsais Simeus, who was born in Haiti, but emigrated to the USA and became a naturalized citizen 44 years ago. He has returned to Haiti to run for the presidency. Arguments are ongoing whether he's eligible. He says he still has Haitian citizenship despite taking the US Oath of Allegiance. The Haitian Electoral Board disagreed. Cue much wrangling about the wording and implications of the Oath. I'm not sure where the situation stands at the moment. Tearlach 19:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dumarsais Simeus

message: Maybe some of this can be salvaged.  It seems to talk about nationality issues.  Kgrr
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Canada permet à un étranger d'obtenir la nationalité canadienne et de garder sa nationalité d'origine.
 Dumarsais Simeus a déclare dans une conférence de presse qu'il procédera à l'arrestation de tout individu qui osa prouver qu'il a renonce à sa nationalité haïtienne.
En voici les preuves convaincantes.
1. Les journaux américains parlent de Dumarsais Simeus comme un riche businessman américain qui vit aux USA depuis 44 ans.
 2. Actuellement il est age de 65 ans, cela veut dire qu'il s'est établit également aux USA à l'age de 21 ans. Le gouvernement des USA exige à tout homme âgé entre 18 et 26 ans de se faire enregistrer dans une liste dénommée: Sélective Service. En cas de guerre avec les nations ennemis, l'armée américaine fera appel a toute personne se trouvant sur cette liste.
 3. Deux des critères d’éligibilité pour la demande de citoyenneté américaine sont : l’attachement aux principles de la constitution américaine, et la volonté manifeste de se mettre à la disposition des Etats Unis en tout temps et en tout lieu.
4. La loi sur la naturalisation aux état- unis est exclusive. Elle ne permet pas a  un individu d'obtenir la nationalité américaine et de garder sa nationalité d'origine. La personne en question en question perd automatiquement sa nationalité d'origine. 
Par contre un haïtien devenu citoyen du canada peut briguer pour la présidence en Haïti 
 Voici le serment d'allégeance qu'il a fait avant d'obtenir la citoyenneté américaine.
Serment :
"J’affirme par la présente, sur le serment, que je renonce et abjure, absolument et entièrement, à toutes les allégeances et fidélités à n'importe quel pays, prince, potentat, état ou souveraineté étranger, de laquelle ou desquels j'ai jusqu'ici été un sujet ou un citoyen ; que je soutiendrai et défendrai la constitution et les lois des Etats-Unis d'Amérique contre tous les ennemis, étranger et domestique ; que je soutiendrai la foi et l'allégeance vraies à la même chose ; Que je prendrai les armes au nom des Etats-Unis quand requis par la loi ; Que j'assurerai le service de non-combattant dans les forces armées des Etats-Unis quand requis par la loi ; Que j'effectuerai le travail d'importance nationale sous la direction civile quand requis par la loi ; Et cela j'ai prends librement  cet engagement  sans aucune limite morale ou but de m'évader ; Aidez-ainsi moi Dieu." 
 Cependant L'immigration américaine alloue seuls les témoins de Jéhovah d'ôter ce paragraphe su sermon.:"Que je prendrai les armes au nom des Etats-Unis quand requis par la loi ; que j'assurerai le service de non-combattant dans les forces armées des Etats-Unis quand requis par la loi " 
Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
Oath:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."< http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/history/teacher/oath.htm>
In some cases, INS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses:
"… That I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform non-combatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by law…"
 
Serment de naturalisation d'allégeance vers les Etats-Unis d'Amérique
Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
Oath:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."< http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/history/teacher/oath.htm>
In some cases, INS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses:
"… that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform non-combatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by law…"
The general requirements for administrative naturalization include: 
·	A period of continuous residence and physical presence in the United States; 
·	Residence in a particular USCIS District prior to filing; 
·	An ability to read, write, and speak English; 
·	A knowledge and understanding of U.S. history and government; 
·	Good moral character; 
·	Attachment to the principles of the U.S. Constitution; and, 
·	Favorable disposition toward the United States. 
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/index.htm
What is Selective Service registration?
Registration is a way our government keeps a list of names of men from which to draw in case of a national emergency requiring rapid expansion of our Armed Forces. By registering all young men, the Selective Service ensures that a future draft will be fair and equitable. <http://www.sss.gov/qa.htm#quest1>
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I have boiled all of this down into the section concerning his citizenship under his bid for election.  Hopefully, I did not miss something important.  Kgrr 16:16, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: I found this article on BBC news. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4515870.stm
I added info to the site. 11614soup 23:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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