Talk:Flag of Vatican City

message: The flag of Vatican City is not a square! In an official letter of the Apostolic Nunciature to Germany to the German Federal Ministry of the Interior on 27 May 2010, it is noted that the Vatican flag is not square but rectangular - other depictions would be incorrect. In the Vatican constitution also a rectangular flag is displayed. Please change this false information. Greetings --91.7.50.108 (talk) 18:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  not a square! 

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message: The text claims that the placement of Or (gold) and Argent (white) side by side causes a violation of the Rule of Tinctures. There are two sources shown. Both sources say that it's not Or and Argent side by side, but the keys drawn onto the panels that cause the violation, as they too are Or and Argent.
Is this something that should be addressed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.211.127.217 (talk) 10:01, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see my Comment above. In short, yes, it breaks the rule (because the rule DOES apply to partitions of fields, not just charges ON fields, and, with the arms of the Kingdom Of Jerusalem, it stands out for breaking the rule, forming a vague uncodified impression that institutions of the highest holy prestige are exempt from the rule.2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rule of Tincture violation 

message: The Fundamental Law of Vatican City State says that The flag of Vatican City State is constituted by two fields divided vertically, a yellow one next to the staff and a white one, and bears in the latter the tiara with the keys, all according to the model which forms attachment A of the present Law. Attachment A indeed shows a square flag. Eccekevin (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It shows the version of the flag used as an infantry colour. Square, yes, but also complete with finial and so on. Noone thinks that they are an essential part of the flag, just because they're in Attachment A, so why treat the proportions of the flag differently. It's pretty normal for flags to be used in more than one proportion, even when when the shape is explicitly specified. In general, I certainly wouldn't interpret a model flag in a legal definition as fixing the overall proportions of the flag, and in this case it's apparent that the Vatican themselves don't interpret it that way. JPD (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Well, if the Vatican does not want to release the clear dimensions of its flags using proportions (it would take them three characters to write "X:X") or precise measures, I do not think we should bother trying to make tea leaf readings and wild assumptions by extrapolating from the images they use. They had the chance to do just that when the 1929 Fundamental Law and the 2000 Fundamental Law were made, and they have had this chance again very recently when the new 2023 Fundamental Law was made (it enters into force the 7 June); but in all three cases, the Vatican did not take this chance. Veverve (talk) 08:07, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Just dropping a couple links, since I feel like it would be helpful to future users to link the updated Fundamental Law: https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/motu_proprio/documents/20230513-legge-fond-scv.html. The flag is linked in Allegato A. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 18:13, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: It is square, by law

message: For the records, see here, section "Who is to blame for wrong Vatican flags – Wikipedia? Britannica? NASA? the Vatican itself?". Veverve (talk) 14:36, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''The Signpost'' section about this 

message: Is it possible that the Footnote that is numbered "6" as of the date I'm typing this should say "letter FROM the German nunciature" instead of "letter TO the German nunciature"? It's on the letterhead of the Vatican embassy or ambassador ("NUNTIATUR") to Germany in Berlin.2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 10:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thank you for pointing this out. Veverve (talk) 18:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnote typo?