Talk:List of dialling codes in the United Kingdom

message: Is this code Birtley (currently pointing to a disambig link) or a fictitious area code? There are several Google links saying it is fictitious. Thanks, Ian Cairns 00:42, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No match here. MRSC 06:57, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. My suspicions are that the article has been synchronised against an out-of-date list, despite clear best intentions. Looks like Wiki needs to identify a definitive list and re-synch - we could use 01632 as a litmus test? Any idea where we can find such a definitive list? One area at a time will be deadly...  Thanks, Ian Cairns 07:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia 555 telephone number and UK telephone numbering plan#Drama numbers for confirmation of 01632 - so it is just this article that is out-of-date. 07:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have found a link to http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/261701.pdf for the current (see date of this comment) geographic area codes and confirm that 01632 is fictitious. Any website that says otherwise must be out of date....  Ian Cairns 08:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 01632

message: Much as it pains me to admit, I must have been using an out of date reference when spending four hours cleaning up this article recently.  Never mind.  Can I just request though that the links that have been added in since my last edit be cleaned up themselves - last time I looked Moscow was the capital city of Russia and was nowhere near the United Kingdom.  I don't know which of the other links added are also incorrect.  Also can we have confirmation that the large number of dialling codes that have been removed are no longer used in the United Kingdom? -- Francs2000 | Talk  18:37, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ho hum

message: Where are the listings for all the 011 codes, the 02 codes, etc?
:: They are at the top of the page, above the 01200 to 01999 entries.  That top table could do with splitting into two tables.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.207.209 (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  *DONE* (79.65.168.225 (talk) 12:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   List now looks to be fully up to date. Ebbsfleet (01987) is probably the most recent litmus test for that. Multiple minor formatting issues have also been fixed. (79.65.208.7 (talk) 15:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  01 only included 

message: Would like to suggest changes to external links. Newbie so please excuse any mistakes of etiquette, format etc. Understand that "Before adding a website to an External links section, you should suggest it on the article's Discussion (talk) page."
Current link to UK STD Codes (http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/tci/old_std_list.shtml) is to historic STD codes from 1990s. Needs to be made clear list is historic/not current.
Current numbering system is administered by UK government regulator, Ofcom. Suggest adding following links direct to Ofcom:
# Ofcom UK telecoms numbering homepage, http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/
# Ofcom UK telecoms numbering scheme, http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/numbers_administered/
# Ofcom The National Telephone Numbering Plan (pdf), http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/numplan081107.pdf
Gjm (talk) 23:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Dumfries uses the 01387 area code.
Langholm uses the 0138 73 area code.
For many years, Ofcom's data for the 01387 and 0138 73 area codes has contained some errors. (archive copy ca. 2009-09-09)
The allocations have been listed as: 
Place 	Dumfries         	Dumfries     	Langholm              	Langholm           	'Dumfries'	Langholm                	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries
Number	013870xxxxx1xxxxx	(01387)2xxxxx	0138 730xxxx1xxxx	(0138 73)2xxxx	013873xxxx	(0138 73)4xxxx9xxxx	(01387)4xxxxx	(01387)5xxxxx	(01387)6xxxxx	(01387)7xxxxx	(01387)8xxxxx	(01387)9xxxxx
DE    	00-19            	20-29        	30-31                 	32                 	33        	34-39                   	40-49        	50-59        	60-69        	70-79        	80-89        	90-99
Type  	NDO              	4+6          	NDO                   	5+5                	4+6       	5+5                     	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6
 Items in red were mis-reported by Ofcom until 2010-08-30. NDO is National Dialling Only.
The allocation at 01387 33xxxx is an obvious error. This number range cannot be using the Dumfries area code.
All numbers beginning 013873xxxxx are, by definition, part of the Langholm area and use the 5+5 number format.
The Langholm area code is 013873, and therefore the correct format for that range is (013873) 3xxxx.
After many years, Ofcom recently corrected this error.
The allocations are now correctly listed as: 
Place 	Dumfries         	Dumfries     	Langholm              	Langholm                	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries     	Dumfries
Number	013870xxxxx1xxxxx	(01387)2xxxxx	0138 730xxxx1xxxx	(0138 73)2xxxx9xxxx	(01387)4xxxxx	(01387)5xxxxx	(01387)6xxxxx	(01387)7xxxxx	(01387)8xxxxx	(01387)9xxxxx
DE    	00-19            	20-29        	30-31                 	32-39                   	40-49        	50-59        	60-69        	70-79        	80-89        	90-99
Type  	NDO              	4+6          	NDO                   	5+5                     	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6          	4+6
 
(80.42.224.139 (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allocation errors in the 01387 and 0138 73 area codes 

message: *Data as shown in 2003 - 2009
The 016977 area code has had a chequered history. An error in Ofcom's database incorrectly marking 16977 2 and 16977 3 as 4+4 (instead of 5+4) format, and marking 16977 4 and 16977 5 as 4+6 (instead of 5+5) format has essentially hidden the 0169 77 area code from view for many years.
BT tried to tell Ofcom about their errors on several occasions. Page 7: '01697 – Brampton should be 0169 77; not 01697'. - Page 20 shows Brampton listed as 0169 77. Some websites don't list the 0169 77 area code at all, as the noted incorrect 4+x format in Ofcom's database for 16977 x numbers essentially said that it didn't exist.
(79.65.204.163 (talk) 00:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  0169 77 - a long history of errors. 

message: As has been discussed on talk page for List of UK dialling codes covering Wales since around April 2007 Edit: 2008, sorry.. 
As previously mentioned, by Dynam1te3, I think that area codes under the +44 country code belong in one list. If Wales had a country code of its own, I would support preserving this page, but Wales is not Gibraltar, Diego Garcia, Macau or Hong Kong. (Gibraltar and Diego Garcia have country codes of their own, but belong to the UK. Macau and Hong Kong have country codes of their own as well, but belong to China.) 
90.208.56.217 (talk) 01:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Further, I don't believe the article on UK dialling codes covering Wales adds any extra information. Eventually one code may cover Wales anyway. Any pertinent information could be placed within the full UK article, in its own section if warranted. I suggest this purely for duplication of information - were the dialling system separate, I would see a need. 90.208.56.217 (talk) 01:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any "merge" of the Welsh list with the UK list would in actual fact simply be a straight "delete" of the Welsh list, since the UK list already lists all of the codes covering Wales. However, I see no problem in having separate pages listing Welsh, or even Scottish for that matter, area codes.(79.73.225.137 (talk) 01:29, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't see any reason to have separate pages for what is effectively the same information. As per Wikipedia:Merging, a good reason to merge is overlap. To quote, "Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability." So far as I can see, the Welsh list contains exactly the same information as contained in the UK list, and seems to me to be needless duplication, which, if needed, could be better covered in a section under the UK list as a whole. 90.208.56.217 (talk) 15:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agree, as per This edit. ;) Owain (talk) 06:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to agree with this merger and suggest a split of the UK list into sections for England, Scotland, Wales and NI. But due to the current layout, it would be inappropriate. Therefore I'd reccommend keeping this list, and support Diacaregos' reccommendation for seperate lists for England, Scotland and NI, as it is not obvious on the UK list which codes belong to which nation. On Wikipedia, things are generally done by each different nation rather than the UK as a whole, e.g. Economy of Scotland, Transport in Wales and History of England. Welshleprechaun 10:16, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

text: (Just a disclosure, all edits by 90.208.56.217 on this toopic were done by myself; I was unable to login previously. )~CortalUXTalk? 22:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I agree that one single list is more practically useful, and there are of course area codes that cross borders, e.g. Saltney (Wales) uses the Chester (England) code 01244, and Cornhill-on-Tweed (England) uses the Coldstream (Scotland) code 01890.  Maintaining separate lists for Wales and Scotland would duplicate information unnecessarily, and a list for Northern Ireland would only have one code on it anyway.  --Deskford (talk) 21:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: There are two letter codes after many towns in the list. What are they? Why aren't they explained in the article? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The two letter codes are listed in the first two references cited and are explained in great detail in Telephone numbers in the United Kingdom (82.22.199.75 (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But these alpha codes have had no status for at least 30 years. I can't see any reason to display them in an article that describes the current (2010) dialling codes. I don't deny that they are of historical interest, but that implies that they belong in an article that describes the history of STD. They don't belong here. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is a list of United Kingdom telephone dialling codes. It is based on Ofcom's area code list, but includes defunct codes and historical changes, including the derivation of the two letter identities where known. It is certainly not just a verbatim copy of Ofcom's list. If that were so, the article should simply be deleted in its entirety, and people referred to Ofcom's site. (77.99.179.33 (talk) 22:42, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but throughout the list, historic designations which are no longer current are given in grey. Wolverton (in Milton Keynes), which contributed the WO8 to 0908, is one such. It certainly should be included, but it should be in grey like the others. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The area code list combines many different things: current codes and names, as well as changes to various area codes in the 1960s (scrapping the 00 codes), 1970s (the creation of the 091 area code), 1990s (phONEday and Reading changes), 2000 (Big Number Change), and so on. As far as I can see, greyed out entries are those where the old area code name has moved to a different area code number.(80.42.227.86 (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

text: The derivation of the two letter codes is not consistent. Many codes like 01483 — Guildford (GU) are straightforward. However the derivation of many other codes is not so easy. Some come from the name of the county, such as 01209 — Redruth, Cornwall (CO). In this case Cornwall is not a part of the official name for the area but there's no need to grey it out because Redruth is still in Cornwall. Others come from an exchange name which is not the main name associated with the area code, such as 01834 — Narberth, Tenby (TE). There's no need to grey that out, because all Tenby numbers are still within the 01834 area code. They have not moved to a different code. Likewise for 01908 — Milton Keynes, Wolverton (WO), Wolverton numbers are still within the 01908 area code. Those numbers have not migrated to a different area code, so there is no need to grey this name out. Greying out is solely for places that have moved to a different area code. This is not the case here. For comparison, the 01906 entry is greyed out, because Worthing 0906 numbers were moved to 0903 back in the 1980s.(80.42.227.86 (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two letter codes? 

message: I came to this page to find out how to give my UK phone number to someone in another country, and I can't see it mentioned at all.  Please would someone add the international dialing code for the UK, and how to interpret it related to the number, preferably at the top of this article ?  If this is already in another article, please would you put a link to it at the top of the page ?  Many thanks, Darkman101 (talk) 15:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:   The article at Telephone numbers in the United Kingdom listed in the "see also" links at bottom of the article page explains it. Formatting is mentioned only a few paragraphs in. (80.42.239.241 (talk) 00:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK international dialing code, and how to use it, please ? 

message: Is it worth mentioning that the codes 023 92 (Portsmouth) and 023 80 (Southampton) are geographically separated (codes such as 01329 Fareham come between them).  What are Ofcom's plans for new codes once these existing codes are filled up?
86.13.158.235 (talk) 10:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The plan a decade ago was to gradually convert all of the UK to the 2+8 numbering scheme, where single (02x) area codes would each cover a whole region such as South-west, Wales, Midlands, Scotland, etc. It was the right move for London, and for Northern Ireland. It was abandoned very early on, but only after Cardiff, Southampton, Portsmouth, and Coventry had also started using it. Recent consultations have put forward the idea that local numbers beginning 0 and 1 would be introduced and the area code not made optional for local calls. An alternative was to have two area codes in each area using an overlay system. Another option, seemingly ignored so far, is for local numbers to change from six to seven digits when a shortage occurs. {79.70.227.68 (talk) 10:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special consideration of subcodes under 023? 

message: Hi. I have added Shaw as an 01706 area. Although it does come under Metropolitan Borough of Oldham the rest of Oldham uses 0161. Shaw uses 01706. --JetBlast (talk) 11:46, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  01706 & Shaw 

message: Where are the 01 numbers? It starts at 02  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.209.12 (talk) 19:11, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Look a bit more carefully. Immediately to the right of the "02x" column are the "011x" and "01x1" columns. The others follow in the next table below. -- Dr Greg  talk  19:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  01 numbers? 

message: 08 numbers are described as Freephone and revenue share non-geographic numbers. Can someone supply an expanded definition for what "revenue sharing" means? BeckenhamBear (talk) 11:04, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revenue Sharing 

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