Talk:Origin of the Vijayanagara Empire

message: The above heading was added on 24 March 2007, and most of the following headings downgraded in an effort to make the argument below more readable. Could all contributors please follow the guidelines for use of discussion pages, and sign and date their comments please. It is hard to see who has said what in the following text. Imc 14:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPoV?

message: to the anonymous author of the above comments: Please do not indulge in personal attack. You can comment on the contribtions of an editor, but not call them names like 'pseudohistorian', etc. If you want to correct any incorrect information, please be bold and edit the information with proper citations. Creating a user id for yourself and logging in while editing and signing your comments will certainly increase the value of your contributions among the other editors of WP. I hope you will stick along and make valuable contributions to WP. - Parthi 23:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No personal attacks 

message: Dear Mr Parthi,
I hated to do that. But, I did it because he called me Cynic. Please go through the whole discussion I had with Kannambadi here as well as in the "Discussion" of "vijayanagar Empire", right from the beginning. Please tell me who behaved in a mature and logical manner after reading the whole stuff. You got to do it. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by  202.141.12.194 (talk • contribs) 
The request was aimed at both parties. We sometimes let our feelings of regional nationalism and language affinities influence our activities in WP. I can see a number of instances of this everyday on WP by various nationalities. It is not worthwhile wasting our energy arguing about petty differenes. Due to the nature of WP and the vast number of input it receives everyday. the neutral point of view and verifiability will prevail eventually with any article. I have also seen this happen. So, there is no point in carrying these arguments to a personal level. There are arbitration mechanisms available to solve content disputes. - Parthi 02:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply

message: Plese provide "reference notes with page numbers" for your references from the books of Venkataramanayya and Robert Sewell. This is a wikipedia requirement and rule. I have provided the needfull.Dineshkannambadi 01:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please provide citations 

message: You have been spending quite a few bucks to buy books written by your fellow fanatics. Spend a few cents to buy Venkataramanyya's book. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.94.192.142 (talk) 17:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Free Advice

message: I seek clarifications regarding Kannada origin from Users who made the input before I do any edits.
1.	Harihara I made a grant to Bharati Tirtha in the presence of Krishnayitayi, queen of Hoysala Veera Ballala (It is but natural that rulers make grants to local sages). 
Reply-->The author cites the close ties between Hoysalas and Harahara I, not one of animosity. Also, the author discusses that Vidyaranya was instrumental in the formation of the empire. If you have issues, question the scholar. Published info cant be removed.Dineshkannambadi 18:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kannada origin

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I will tell you the exact linkage,caste and linguistic background of the founders of the vijayanagar empire.It all starts at the kingdom of KAMPILI which was ruled by KAMPILARAYA.His famous son of those times was GANDUGALI KUMARARAMA known for his valour and looks.There was a constant friction between the kingdom of kampili and the delhi sultanate led by MUHAMMAD BIN TUGHLAQ.HARIHARA and BUKKA were the sons of SANGAMA who was a cousin of kampilaraya and this made kumararama,harihara and bukka cousins.In the final battle that followed kampilaraya was defeated kumararama was killed and harihara and bukka had a narrow escape.They then wanted to continue the legacy of kumara rama.Then they found vidyaranya as their guru to find the vijayanagara empire.
Now comes the caste of all these historical characters.It is beyond doubt that the famous kumararama belonged to the BEDA caste who later on during the rule of vijayanagara empire came to be called as the NAYAKAS/ PALEGARS/VALMIKIS.So this made Harihara and bukka nayakas.This caste is prominent in the areas of bellary,raichur and chitradurga in karnataka and are also equally found on the Andhra side of the border too.Even today you can find the descendents of kumararama,harihara and bukka who all belong to the nayaka community.All the vijayanagara kings belonged to the Nayaka community.Today the descendents of KRISHNADEVARAYA call themselves as both KSHATRIYAS and NAYAKAS because kshatriyasation of the nayakas is very easy.Confusion prevails that harihara and bukka belonged to the kuruba community because after the fall of kampili kingdom they disguised themselves as sheperds known as kurubas in kannada to avoid exhibiting their royal origin till they found guru vidyaranya.Since nayakas are found in both karnataka and andhrapradesh claimants will be found on both the sides.But it is for sure that harihara and bukka were closer to kannada than telegu. 
-BY RASHMI R, TUMKUR, KARNATAKA      
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnata_Empire
I think above link clearly states that it is something which belonged to karnataka...so kannadigas played prominent role in the origin of vijayanagara Empire...I think the respect for telugu during vijayanagar empire times should not be misconstrued/wrongly interpreted to twist historical facts.
There are contradictions regarding the caste of Harihara and Bukka Raya under the telugu origin section. One paragraph states that they were Kuruba Gowda which is definitely a Kannada based caste of Shephards. In the following paragraphs it states they are of Golla origin who are Cow Graziers. What is to be believed here?. Can some one verify the facts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8109:ABF:EEB4:E127:8190:7E7E:D7E8 (talk) 13:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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message: The Kampili connection is wholly mysterious to me. When are Harihara and Bukka supposed to have been in Kampili? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kampili connection?