Talk:Influences on Karl Marx

message: Have created this page to give a more systematic treatment of the various influences on Marx and therefore Marxism without taking up too much space on either page. At this stage alot of it is still quite bare and I have had to group Adam Smith and David Ricardo,  and Charles Fourier and Henri de Saint-Simon, under the same headings. However I would like eventually to see each person have their own heading, so please expand the sections! JenLouise 06:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: Hi EnthusiastFR, I've noticed the stuff you added regarding the French Revolution. It is interesting information, but it does not seem to fit properly with the article which talks about what influenced Marx's work. It seems to demonstrate how the relationship between the French Revolution and Marxism, but the article is on Karl Marx, not marxism. If you think that the French Revolution influenced Marx's writing perhaps you could have a go at rewriting the article showing what influence it had on Marx (don't forget to use sources!). Otherwise perhaps it would be best to put the information on another page? JenLouise 01:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tts been nearly a month with no response, so I have removed the section as it doesn't not belong in this article in its current format. Unless it can be shown how the 1789 People's Revolution actually had an influence on what Marx thought and wrote then it doesn't belong here. Please don't re-add this section in its current state without first discussing it here. Thanks, JenLouise 00:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Revolution section 

message: Would it not be appropriate to include at least some information on the Darwin influence (to clarify the position)? More info in this reference material, by the way. Crimson30 22:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't access the first link because I am blocked by our work server and the second link requires a subscritpion of some sort, so I can't give you my opinion on it, but if you think it should be mentioned and you haver referenced material then definitely add it. Perhaps you should present it as an influence (if there are references saying that it did influence Marx, but then follow it with the arguments of other authors who beleive that it didn't influence Marx. If there is some controversy I would think it would be best to add both sides with references, so that the reader can decide for themself. I would think that it would go in Other influences. JenLouise 00:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Crimson30 16:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Corrected.  Thanks!  --Crimson30 16:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darwin influence (or lack thereof)

message: I find it rather dubious to base an entire article on references to short sentences in Encarta. I've already removed Vico, since his influence isn't as "obvious" as is suggested: I've never seen Marx' view of history being described as "cyclic" as opposed to "progressive" or "teleological". Qwertyus 14:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added Vico back in, but removed the word obvious. I think the similarities are obvious, but it was a bad choice of words - however the assertion that Vico influenced Marx is referenced. Perhaps its not great for the only references to be Encarta, but it is in encyclopeadia, where only approved contributors write the articles. What would help is people adding more references. I will try to see if I can find other references to all the influences (including Vico), put I have already put heaps and heaps of time into this and the Marxism and Classical Marxism articles and am just running out of time at the moment. JenLouise 02:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've written a great deal about influences on Marx on the Dutch page about Marx, maybe I'll try to translate some of that. It has good (English language) references. Qwertyus 12:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious references 

message: Reference number 8 links to another WP article. I was under the impression that this was discouraged.
Perhaps linking directly to the relevant sources may be a better idea?
-AnoN  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.53.35 (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: how can i get some papers of Marxism's theory of east sociat. Please contect the address below: jigaoliu@163.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.146.183.18 (talk) 04:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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