Talk:Asturias

message: I have never heard anyone refer to Asturias as Asturies in English.  gives Asturias but not Asturies. If nobody objects, I will move this article to Asturias. - montréalais
Saved me the trouble. Thanks. - mtl
Just FYI, I always refer to Asturias as Asturies and I am a native English speaker.Asturnut (talk) 10:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm... aside from being called Principality of Asturias, and there being a Prince of Asturias, I'm not sure what other criteria there would be. - Montréalais 09:01, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: This article failed the GA noms due to lack of references. Tarret 01:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA

message: I have change a few historical details, probably the most relevant is the clarification between Asturias and Oviedo. Asturias is a geographical label, there were two Asturias, one of them is the current principality and the other now part of Cantabria. Meanwhile, "province of Oviedo" is the administrative one, dating from Javier de Burgos' administrative reforms in the 1830s, which kept the old regional names such as Asturias, but created a new entity underneath, the "provinces," such as Oviedo. The passing of Francoism brought with it a new administrative reorganization, it was the oportunity to change the name to "Principality of Asturias." I think that the old provintial organisation expired a few years later, at least with regard to those Autonomous Regions that were made of one single province. As I never signed it before, I'll do it now. Asturs 15:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asturias/Oviedo 

message: At http://www.infoasturias.com/ , at the left column, there is a link to the site of the Government of Asturias, with a blason. I think that´s the coat of arms os Aturias, which may be easily draw. Shall we use it??? Tonyjeff 13:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asturian Coat of Arms 

message: I added its official name in spanish, "Principado de Asturias", and i deleted "Asturies" and "Principáu de Asturies" cause are not official names. 
All the names of villages, towns and cities are written there in spanish and in "asturian language". I would not delete the asturian names, but just want to remark that I am asturian and they are not used by asturian people at all... (most of them are being invented by a little handful of asturians that want to be more asturian than the rest... i see no trouble in this (is good to imagine things), the trouble is that after invent that completely new names -that our grandfathers dont use- they want to make us learn and say...
That is why i want to notice that, ok, i personally dont mind that the names are written in his HIPOTETICAL asturian way, but reminding at the same time that asturian way is not used at all (just by a handful of asturian-nationalist looneys without reality sense.)
I WOULD ASK TO THAT FANATIC OF LIES WHO DELETES MY DISCUSSION MESSAGES, NOT TO DELETE THEM, PLEASE... is just a discussion... you know: to debate, a very healthy and good thing... that thing you do not like too much i see... you prefer to impose... ("to normalize" is the equivalent term you use)... to impose your dark ideas, to impose your lies, your invented language...
::First of all, show respect, moderate your language, don't insult, and maybe then your 'particular' ideas would be considerated. And begin to sign your messages. --80.38.79.176 0:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Asturian language/Asturiano/Asturien and labels

message: I am failing the GA nomination primarily because of lack of in-line citations.  It is important to know which sources support which claims.  I was also consernced about the breadth of coverage, the History section inparticular is short on details and it isn't particularly clear where to look for them.  In addition the sections could be reordered and arranged in a more logical progression as they seems a bit ramdomly placed now, but I'm not sure what would work best and I think the article is well-written over all.  See WP:WIAGA for a complete list and explanation of the GA criteria.  My primary concerns are 2b and 3a with a note that its compliance with 1b could be improved.  Eluchil404 21:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA nomination

message: Don Emilio Alarcos LLorach, a promminent Academician of the Spanish Language, internationally aclaimed linguist, professor of Linguistics till his death -a couple of decades ago- at Ovidedo University and very much involved in the issues related to Asturias, defined:
Language: The way that a community speaks reinforced/based on and interacting with the existence of historical past and present written literature.
Dialect: The way that a community, or part of a community speaks and is passed through the oral tradition.
He goes on saying that Asturias, due to its geographical inccesiblility, human settlements lived quite autonomously for centuties developping innumerable and particular ways of speaking that have been passed through the oral tradition.  This is the rural Asturias that has and/or had many 'BABLES' or dialects and it represents a near impossible task to catalogue them due to their abundance and to one of the golden rules of linguistics: the way of speaking of a community varies all the time and it is economical.
The less rural Asturias, the Asturias of the 'CUENCAS MINERAS' due to its heavy industrialization and migration from other parts of Asturias and Spain developed a way of speaking that he called 'AMESTAO' or 'mixture' of various which indeed is also a dialect and nowadays the most extended way of speaking in Asturias.
SPANISH was spoken in Oviedo, the capital, by a 'bourgeoisie' who maintained that those who spoke BABLE or AMESTAO were ignorant yokels.  
These issues are, to the day, object of contingency and passionate discussion in Asturias.
9 December, Fanjul--Sidrina 12:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bable/Asturianu-Amestao/Spanish 

message: The other uses of the word Asturias pharagraph at the top of the page was becoming really big and very unpleasant to read, so I created a disambiguation page for those other uses. --Ravenloft 15:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asturias (disambiguation) 

message: There really ought to be more on Asturian music as the current section sounds somewhat irrelevant, and certainly doesn't cover very much. I'll try and come up with something, but I'm not exactly an expert. What to include? I'll be v. happy if anyone else can contribute in the said section.Shadowcrow 20:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asturian music 

message: There are edits and reverst regarding the Asturian flag in this article. Can we please stop the Edit war ? It is just about the flag:
Image:Flag of Asturias (indoor).svg |This flag
Image:Flag of Asturias.svg |The other flag
Based on: Disputes step 1
Can we please have a reasonable discussion on which one to use and why? --Figarema |Talk  11:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I been called in from one of the editors of the dispute; anyways, there seems to be a problem with the indoor and outdoor flag. According to various laws I have found, the second flag displayed is the one we should display on the article. The indoor flag is used for ceremonial purposes and the other flag is more official. See . User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's up with the flag? 

message: I have never seen azafran (saffron) as an ingredient in fabada.  There is paprika in the chorizo with which fabada is made, maybe this is the source of the confusion.
Also, Asturias is well known for its cheeses http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queso_de_Asturias
80.7.149.148 (talk) 15:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Food

message: I have read in some books -not only one- that people in Asturias are really TWO "nationalities" and not one: two nationalities according to social class. The rich people are more cold, reserved and difficult. On the contrary, the low classes are more open and sincere and communicative. Thus the rich classes are the real craddle for Spain. this difference in costums is important. - do you know anything about that ?? --  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.53.190.152 (talk) 16:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asturias: one country, two nationalities 

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message: "The most famous proponents of independence were Gonzalo Peláez and Queen Urraca, who, while achieving significant victories, were ultimately defeated by Castilian troops." - This statement, besides vague and unsourced, is largely nonsense because the so-called "Queen Urraca" was also queen of Castile and fought rebellions in Castile itself.Menah the Great (talk) 15:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval history 

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