Talk:Mazda3

message: I didn't like the "more "performance-oriented"" implication, it does little to respect the Mazdaspeed3's performance.
 
I think that the class of Axela is "compact - near luxury car". Am i wrong? Kaygtr 16:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Mazda3 is a compact, but it's not anywhere to being a near-luxury car. --ApolloBoy 01:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Axela

message: The vehicle is called Mazda3 in all English-speaking markets and all markets outside Japan, and Axela is only used in Japan. The article needs to be redirect to Mazda3.--Folksong 03:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This needs to be redirected to Mazda3 

message: It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 11:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
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# Oppose. The WP Autos WikiProject favours using the home market name. A redirect to this page, which explains the names used in the opening paragraph, seems best to me. --DeLarge 00:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments:
A bit OT, but the opening section could be better written, without the repetitions and sounding like a reply to somebody asking why the article is called like that. There are much better examples of lead sections for articles like that around. Also, the Mazdaspeed3 needs to be reintegrated into the article, there is far too less content to mandate a separate article, it is another bad example of trying to add gravitas to a model version. The article also suffers from numerous flaws concerning structure, style, NPOV etc. and could use the attention of an experienced and professional editor... PrinceGloria 12:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move (2007) 

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
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# Oppose. The WP Autos WikiProject favours using the home market name. A redirect to this page, which explains the names used in the opening paragraph, seems best to me. --DeLarge 00:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: # Oppose. The WP Autos WikiProject favours using the home market name. A redirect to this page, which explains the names used in the opening paragraph, seems best to me. --DeLarge 00:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

message: :Add any additional comments:
A bit OT, but the opening section could be better written, without the repetitions and sounding like a reply to somebody asking why the article is called like that. There are much better examples of lead sections for articles like that around. Also, the Mazdaspeed3 needs to be reintegrated into the article, there is far too less content to mandate a separate article, it is another bad example of trying to add gravitas to a model version. The article also suffers from numerous flaws concerning structure, style, NPOV etc. and could use the attention of an experienced and professional editor... PrinceGloria 12:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Does the 2008 changes section belong in this article.  The changes are about the trim levels offered in Australia.  IS this article just supposed to cover the US & Canadian model or is it supposed to cover all the English language market models? --Ray (talk) 13:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is supposed to cover the Mazda Axela as a whole, and discussing minor trim details or equipment levels for particular market is actually irrelevant in an encyclopedia. We could discuss them only if notable (i.e. a notable market first, where notable is defined by actual notability, not adding "notably" at the beginning of the sentence :D PrinceGloria (talk) 14:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008 AU Changes

message: Why is there no mention of the major design flaw in the Mazda 3 that allows a person to unlock the door without setting off the alarm by only hitting a certain spot with enough force? DruidODurham (talk) 21:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design Flaw Omission 

message: moved by Tiptoety. Aubergine (talk) 01:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mazda Axela → Mazda3 —  Per WP:COMMONNAME. The car is available worldwide and well-known as "Mazda3", according to the article, the current name "Mazda Axela" was only used in Japan. Would be happy with "Mazda 3" if that fits Wikipedia naming conventions better. Aubergine (talk) 03:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Comment — and that is the point; i.e. if it's used in ALL English-speaking countries then fine. Otherwise, it should be the original market name because there's no other way to avoid endless arguments about Google hits and what really constitutes the "best-known" name. 81.178.67.229 (talk) 11:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

text: *It is officially branded "Mazda3" , so I see no reason to move it to "Mazda 3". — \`CRAZY`(lN)`SANE`/ (talk • contribs) 12:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *Google hits for English-language pages alone -> "Mazda3" 2290K, "Mazda 3" 2570K. How is "Mazda3" the more common name? PrinceGloria (talk) 15:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *Wait a minute, when I do Google I'm getting 4,420,000 for "Mazda 3" and 4,560,000 for "Mazda3"?. — \`CRAZY`(lN)`SANE`/ (talk • contribs) 15:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *Click "Advanced Search" to the right of the search box, select "English" in the "language" pull-down". PrinceGloria (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Because a Wikiproject guideline can't magically override standard procedure.  As explained above, we use the most common name for things.  This is a very common car in many parts of the world, and it's called by the same name in all English-speaking markets.  Friday (talk) 23:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, after reading all that hullabaloo that went on, I'm glad calmer heads prevailed, and the English Wikipedia used the term that the entire English-speaking world uses. I never heard of Axela before, and the numerous links to English sources don't use that term, so it would have been unnecessarily confusing.  Thank you Tiptoety and others! Nerfer (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Someone put merge templates on, but I don't see much discussion here.  I think it probably makes sense to keep them separate, since the cars are treated as separate models by the automotive press.  Articles covering the speed3 are always concerned with performance, and they compare it to other sport compacts and budget performance cars.  IMO it makes sense to devote a lot of mazdaspeed 3 to performance related features, while such specific coverage makes less sense here.  Friday (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been six months and no one has supported the proposed merger.  I'm going to remove the mergefrom and mergeto tags from the articles. — Mudwater (Talk) 01:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They arent treated as separate cars...I dont know what magzines you read.. these articles should be merged, its only one engine variant of Mazda3 --Typ932 T·C 20:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mazdaspeed3 merge 

message: I've been following the Mazda 3 rather closely for a year and a half now, and I was a bit surprised to see the first generation Mazda3 still headlining the top of the Wiki site. I would have expected the 2010 to start headlining the page. The 2010 Mazda3 started showing up around dealer lots as early as late February 2009, though most dealers didn't receive them until March and April. As for the present, people on Mazda3 forums have commented that most dealers have exhausted their supply of 2008 and 2009 Mazda3's in lieu of 2010's (noting the posts at http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef23a67.ef23a61/0 , http://mazda3revolution.com/forums , http://www.mazda3forums.com , http://www.mazdas247.com ). In terms of Mazda's manufacturing and marketing strategy, the 2010 Mazda3 is what is happening today, and the previous generation is "in the past," so to speak.
So, should the top of the page be reworked a little to orient itself around the 2010 model year?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garfield3d (talk • contribs) 00:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Is the Current Model Year 

message: Wheelbase increased in the latest model of the Mazda 3 from 2640 to 2700mm.
source:
http://www.mazda.co.uk/cars/mazda3-hatchback/specs-and-prices/
Old value is used in the specs in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.119.98.197 (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheelbase of latest model increased 

message: Only currently listed curb weight is for latest gen mazda3. What about the rest? All other dimensions like wheelbase are listed for each gen.
Dazalc (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weights of each gen? 

message: Looking at vehicle pages, I see that year ranges in section headers for each vehicle generation are inconsistent between pages. The year ranges indicate either the model year range or the production year range. For example, "Second generation (BL; 2008-2013)" on this page indicates the production years for the Mazda3, for model years 2010-2013. Ford Mustang on the other hand lists year ranges in generation section headers which indicate the model year range for each generation, i.e. "Fifth generation (2005–2014)" (production years for this Mustang generation are 2004-2014). I think listing model years in generation section headers makes far more sense than production years. Production years is very confusing from a research point of view as it's not the primary criteria for determining vehicle generation. Model year range is the primary criteria. Is there an auto-specific style guideline for this or can I just go ahead & change it?
Jmathis555 (talk) 21:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year ranges in section headers 

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