Talk:Bükkábrány mummified forest

message: Cool article, but can we find a less awkward title? "Bükkábrány petrified forest", or something? K. Lásztocska 04:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

message: I know it's not the best and I've been thinking a lot but couldn't come up with a better title. The unique about the forest is that it's not petrified and not carbonized. I have a few pieces of wood from one of the cypresses and it absolutely looks like it was broken off a living tree. – Alensha talk 11:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename

message: The title is not only clumsy, but also blatantly wrong. Bald cypress is not a cypress. Besides, could we have something more reliable than news as a source? Colchicum 11:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, ok, but I'd recommend to change Cypress (which normally refers to Cupressus) to Taxodium, which would be more correct. Maybe something like 2007 discovery of a Miocene Taxodium grove in Hungary, but it is still awkward. Are you sure that they are not fossilized? This is very strange and needs better referencing. What exactly has been said and by who? I think a quotation would be appropriate (of a paleobotanist rather than a journalist or a politician). Colchicum 15:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, the time stopped in 1950 AD. Colchicum 16:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For now. Of course, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, but we can reasonably assume time hasn't stopped forever. Biruitorul 17:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The problem is that I am pretty sure there were many Miocene-era Taxodium groves in Hungary (it is an established fact and not a sensation that Taxodium grew in this region), there are even chances that this is not the only one discovered (I am not sure, though). What is supposed to be so special here is the absence of fossilization, but it would be too complex for a title (and should be sourced better in any case). Therefore either 2007 discovery of X or X discovered in 2007 seems really unavoidable. Colchicum 18:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Not to be a party pooper, but this honestly doesn't deserve its own article, and it should be merged as a section of Taxodium. We can't have an article for every mildly famous discovery in the natural sciences. --Vlmastra 23:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, your article (for it was you who created it) may (possibly) violate wikipedia guidelines. Please see WP:NOT#INFO. Please also note that I did not suggest deletion of the material. I only suggested that it might better serve as part of the article on Taxodium. I still don't think this stands well on its own.--Vlmastra 23:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I know quite a lot of paleobotanists and paleontologists and stratigraphers--they've all heard of this.  Some folks may not understand the significance, but others apparently do, so that we have an article on the topic.  Tahnks.  KP Botany 01:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thank you! – Alensha talk 22:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The title is still very awkward and prob should be renamed.  I think a better title would be along the lines of Bükkábrány mummified forest. --Kevmin § 20:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Also this 2009 palaeobotanical paper on the site lists only two genera o trees preserved as stumps, Taxodioxylon (closer in relation modern Sequoia) and Glyptostroboxylon (closer to modern Glyptostrobus)  thus the use of cypress in the name is completely wrong. --Kevmin § 20:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems

message: This line: "The find is unique, since trees this old have never been found in their original state and original place before"  is in the opening paragraph.  However it is not actually true, as at least one other mummified forest is known which is older.  The mummified forest on Axel Heiberg island in the Canadian arctic dates to the middle Eocene.  Possibly this hsould be rewored to the only mummified forest in Europe? --Kevmin § 20:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Claim of uniqueness

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