Talk:Thriller Bark

message: Isn't he the main character from an earlier Oda short story (Dragon Slayer, iirc), part of the WANTED! collection?  The chapter does reference him killing a dragon, plus the name was the same, and I think the kimono was the same style, barring some rotting here and there.  Unfortunately, I no longer have access to that compilation, so can anyone verify it? --Wtrmute 20:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone at Arlong PArk pointed it out... Seem legit.  We need to wait for the respective vol. to come out, maybe Oda will shed some light on the matter. Angel Emfrbl 22:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Samurai Ryuuma

message: Can everyone reframe from placing speedy delete on this page... Its in the process of being improved, it was just created! Angel Emfrbl 20:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Working on Page

message: I have a great cerbeus picture but how do i upload onto here--Ctstrawhat910 23:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lefthand column navigation bar (it has the wikipedia logo at the top), under the search section - titled "Upload File".  Angel Emfrbl 07:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a picture of the ship of most of the other crews... Anyone got a decent one of Thrilelr Bark?  Mine are just uncleaned RAWS.  Angel Emfrbl 18:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cereberius 

message: this page was needed, but needs much improvement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.160.194.89 (talk) 18:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, we know.  It actually isn't liable for S.Delete anymore but we just can't remove the tags... Well, at least I can't.    Angel Emfrbl 18:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  dont delete 

message: Becareful with that reference to the Samuri from Oda's other story guys.  Speculation is not sought after on wikipedia as facts are always preferred.  Currently, the fact it is a note is okay.  Whatever you do don't write "this could be based on..." or anything else along those lines.  
I'll also remind everyone that "could", "might" and "maybe" are a few of the words that easily transform a statement into a speculation.  I'll also remind you that comparison to OTHER anime series is also unacceptable and counts as speculation unless Oda adresses it and says it is not.  Angel Emfrbl 15:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Careful

message: Well, very good job, but since we have all the pirate group named after their leader, shouldn't we go the same for this page? What d'ya think? Cuttyflam 08:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As explained once already.  With all other pirates were had a given name supported by text from the manga - Kuro's pirates where Blackcat Pirates, buggy's pirate, Whitebeard's pirates, Don Krieg's Pirate Armada, the S.(forgot name) Alliance... Etc and we named them that way.  We have no evidence for "Moria Pirates" but we have for "thriller Bark".  So since we can only use a given name, Thriller Bark it is.  Angel Emfrbl 09:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Adding to this since its now over... Yeah never once was TB called this name.  In fact from the last few chaps of this arc, the Moria Pirate seemed to be the best name you could use to call Moria's late crew who are dead.  So Moria Pirates and Thriller Bark are two different crews. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 21:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming as "Moria Pirates"

message: For the animal zombies it says that they are one of the four types of zombies on thriller bark. After that I counted the surprise zombies and the soldier zombies. Anyone care to post the fourth type?
:Animal... Surpise... Soldier... And General.  All four types there you go! Angel Emfrbl 17:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the four types.  Even the spiders fall into the other categories.  Angel Emfrbl 06:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  one of four? 

message: First of all,Perona apeared quite late in the arc and stil is the only one to have the picture stay-as well as that weve seen less sceens of her then both Absalom,Ryuma and most of all,Hogbakc,who is the FIRST of the mysterious four to appear.I agree with removal of individual zmobie pictures,maybe except for Oz,but why is PERONA given so much prominence?
Arguments for Hogback to have a picture:
1.Hogback was mentioned first.
2.He appeared first.
3.He was in more scenes that Perona (invitation plus the dinner,talk with invisible absalom,work on "Mario" plus mysterious four introduction,gathering at Morias dance hall,freer,flashback by Brook)
whereas perona appeared in the M-4 (mysterious four) introduction, at the ship at at Morias dance hall and freezer (plus a scene where she is "not seen" sleeping)so Hogback gets the better.Also,countin individual panels hes appeared in so far,he would win anyway.
New Babylon 2 15:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was not responsible this time BB2.  This time they got deleted due to not being counted as "free"-whats-it-called.  I think its' up on the page here somewhere.  Several pages got the same treatment, including the Gold Roger page. Angel Emfrbl 15:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Perona?

message: I have marked a portion of perona's section as needing a citation. Can anyone point me to a source for horo = ghost that doesn't come from a chapter translation itself? I have looked at numerous dictionaries, googled, and even asked a friend more knowledgeable in japanese than I am and from all that we can find this is not the case. It can mean cover as someone pointed out to me, and it could even be short for hologram (horoguramu) which would sort of make sense since she is a projection without substance, (edit, woops hit submit before finishing train of thought) but nothing about ghosts or spirits. If this is not a very esoteric slang or dialect word translation then it needs to be removed as it is not accurate. That Lamer 13:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its pretty clear "horo" is trying to be "hollow" in some way as all of her attacks contain "hollow" (negative hollow for example).  She also describes her ghost form as her "hollow" self.  My comment. Angel Emfrbl 16:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It's actually "horo horo", which is a Japanese mimetic for either "weeping elegantly", or "looking thin and weak", depending on how the vowels are accented.  Either way, it is one of the typical 'sounds' a ghost makes (Schourup, Lawrence, Palatalization in Japanese Mimetics: Response to Mester and Itô, Language 68, 139-148, 1992). Magic pumpkin (talk) 08:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Also, the character's name has been romanized improperly.  It is not Perona (a common English surname), but Pelona, one the [several] Spanish names for Death (la Pelona). This is in line with the names "Gekko Moria", "Absalom", and "Hogback". Gekko probably refers to the lizard, often used in magical ceremonies and fortune telling, but may also refer to the character Gordon Gekko in Wall Street (film).  Moria is obviously a reference to death.  Absalom is a reference to the handsome son of David, and his lament. Hogback may be a reference to hogback stones, which may be grave markers. Magic pumpkin (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy of horo 

message: Can we stop using this name?  There is no dog-pen its an ENGLISH fan made up thingy to explain what Sanji's zombie is.  Its just one of the penguin trio, you can call it "Sanji's zombie" but "Dog-pen" doesn't exist at all. Angel Emfrbl 21:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actualy, starting from volume 48 he is listed in the sumary of "The Story of One Piece" as "Inuppe", so that's his name aside from the "Dogpen/Inupen" joke.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.85.39.234 (talk) 00:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dogpen