Talk:Bloodline (World of Darkness)

message: I wouldn't call the Giovanni's families bloodlines, since they're just groups of mortals the clan Embraces from. MasterGrazzt 03:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Giovanni 

message: I'll do a general clean up of this list over time. There were some bloodlines that were obviously missing and there are some there that I disagree with. I'll do my research properly before moving or deleting anything. For now, I've added the following items:
* Nictuku (the ancient monsters related to the Nosferatu)
* Ventrue (one of the seven core Camarilla clans)
* Ventrue antitribu (Ventrue in the Sabbat)
* Caitiff (clanless vampires)
* Panders (Caitiff in the Sabbat)
I may start adding sources for the bloodlines too, to prevent any disagreements over their validity.
Stelio 09:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely, I agree (I admit to being rather nebulous in using the phrase "related to" above). And indeed the Giovanni are a bloodline of the Cappadocians, and the Tremere are descended from the Salubri. It comes down to the definition of clan as to which groups get put in the leftmost column of the table, which is rather more "in the eye of the beholder". Sadly I've not yet had the time to do the full research and reconstruction that this list deserves, but I'll get around to it eventually. :-) Stelio 12:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually the Tremere are a bloodline of the Tzimisce - the diablerie of Saulot offered them full "clan" status, but they were a line of vampires for neary a century prior to their devouring of the Salubri clan founder. Also, I've moved the Daughters of Cacophony to their proper place as a Toreador bloodline (as reinforced in Victorian Ages Vampire) - how anyone would get the idea that they were a bloodline of the Baali is beyond me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.243.211.114 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: <chuckle> That's a good point, well made. :-) They did indeed use a captured Tzimisce to turn themselves into vampires initially (I'd forgotten; thanks for reminding me). I had the Salubri in mind rather because of the influence that Saulot had on Tremere following the diablerie (making the Tremere clan a tool of Saulot, according to some people's beliefs). I'm still waiting to get my books back from a friend, but when I do, I'll make those edits I promised. Stelio 19:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bloodlines for ''Vampire: The Masquerade''

message: Per the discussion above, I have put together a first stab at completely wrewriting this page (from the point of view of Vampire: The Masquerade). You can see the work in progress at User:Stelio/Bloodline (Vampire: The Masquerade). Please post any comments on the talk page there (I have already made various notes there). Please also edit that page yourself should you wish to. I will continue to add more information myself as I find the time. If there is agreement, we can replace this page with the new versions. Stelio 23:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First draft of new format

message: There's a few errors in the Bloodlines page.  The origin of the Daughters of Cacophany/Suns of Discord is unknown, evidence points to the Malkavians, Baali & Toreador as possible sources.  The Baali have no bloodlines.  The Laibon of the dark ages are actually the Akuanase from KotEK.   Also I always thought the plural of Pander is Pander?
Cameronmurtagh 14:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bloodline Errors