Talk:Malorie Blackman

message: It looks like this will take a couple of days to work, anyone have input to offer before I get to it?
~ Otterpops 14:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest I check naming conventions with WikiProject Novels before the page is split to see if "Nought and Crosses (series)" is the preferred nomenclature or not but that's my only input. You're a brave editor to tackle this. Good luck! Random Passer-by 15:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It appears the preferred naming convention is "Noughts and Crosses series" with no parentheses. Random Passer-by 15:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Lastly (I hope), I don't think this article has persondata metadata yet? If you neither know nor care about such things then let me know when you're done here and I'll add it. :-) Random Passer-by 17:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: When the copy edit/expansion/etc is done and I split the article, I'll add the book cover images to Malorie Blackman (currently the first half of the article) as well as Noughts and Crosses series. Random Passer-by 03:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picked up from Copyedit Backlog

message: Looks like Doubleday, Corgi and Transworld are all part of Random House. The Random House site brings up nothing for MB at all until you go to their cute "Random House Kids" site. There's a grid that shows the different titles with "imprint" listings, that's why the trilogy publisher says "Doubleday, Doubleday, Random House".
~ Otterpops 19:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Doubleday publish the hardcovers and Corgi then publish the paperbacks. Random Passer-by 20:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Publisher Weirdness

message: I've just copied over the (non-personal) discussion of MB article from my UserTalk to here so others can see what we've been up to and jump in if they like. Any chops, misattributions, etc. are my fault. ~ Otterpops 15:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaboration

message: "Anansi and the Rubber Man" published by Longman Project is listed on Malorie Blackman's website as one of her books, however Amazon.com UK lists it under two other author's names. Longman/Pearson Educational was previously one of Blackman's publishers. I'm leaving it off the list of Works, there may be legal issues. ~ Otterpops 17:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not listed as Blackman's on the British Library catalogue either. It's probably either a short story collection of Anansi stories or Blackman wrote an introduction for another author's Anansi story. I agree with you about leaving it off the bibliography. Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've got it on the British Library catalogue. I'll add the details and you can look them over at your leisure. Googling them for age appropriateness is probably a good idea because I'm only guessing "children's". Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, full details from the British Library catalogue below. Length only included as a potential clue. Someone needs to google for age appropriateness before they're added because I can't guess which section they belong in.
* Don't Be Afraid (illustrated by Bob Harvey), Ginn, 1999, ISBN-10 0602275490 (64 pages, originally published 1997)
* Aesop's Fables (retold by Malorie Blackman, illustrated by Patrice Aggs), Scholastic, 1998, ISBN-10 0590543822 (64 pages)
Random Passer-by (talk) 02:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The British Library catalogue claims it's Malorie Blackman. I'll add it provisionally but they're not always right. Why did you think it's Antonia Blackman? Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure what your comment means. I'm assuming it means the information was from one of the amazon websites? In which case it's probably sensible to favour the British Library. Random Passer-by (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Author Weirdness

message: Good job linking "noughts and crosses" game. It's clear who's trying to edit at 2:00 AM and who's editing with good sense and full control of faculties. Thank you, RPB (again!) ~ Otterpops 19:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your replacement of "terrorism" with violence was perfect because the violence in the story comes from both sides (which is the whole point). We're supposed to keep personal comments to our talk pages though so let's try to follow the guidelines and not spam potential future editors on this page. Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nice!

message: I'm thinking citation templates would do good for the list of Works, leave off the author name and the rest would fall in line? At least the punctuation would be correct and consistent. If anybody really really loves filling out templates... ~ Otterpops 20:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean. Could you expand on this idea please? If you need lots of references from the same source then you only need to fill out the template once with a special name and then cut'n'paste the special name wherever you want the reference (see the awards section for two examples). Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think I understand. You want to hide the ISBNs as metadata? Erm, the thing you did previously with greaterthan and lessthan arrows works for that but I'm not sure why you want to hide all your hard work. I don't mind either way. Random Passer-by (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Templates

message: This needs the name of the story and a publication date. Google beckons whoever has time first. Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Crew and Other Teen Fiction

message: The reference from The Times needs an accessdate and a title. Where did this reference come from? The newspaper itself? A book? A website? Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Stephen Lawrence thing (controversial?) came from the Amanda Craig interview which is a link on her website. The link you remember seeing was to info about Stephen Lawrence, not a citation. The whole second half of the paragraph (beyond the first footnoted quote) is the one citation. The thing that isn't attributed is that bandaid deal, no idea where that came from. Clip that out and the two sentences from the Craig could be combined with a semicolon. ~ Otterpops 05:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I can guess what this means from the context but it should be more specific so readers understand why it's a separate category to "children's" and "new readers". Any suggestions? Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Children's" wasn't one of the categories when I categorized them. ~ Otterpops 05:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "For strong readers"

message: I reverted this section to the version most like the WikiProject Biography guidelines. There's some room for fiddling but it must be referenced and formatted to at least basic Wikipedia manual of style standards. Random Passer-by (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards and nominations

message: Is this publisher link educational or commercial? It smells like spam to me. Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible). Random Passer-by (talk) 01:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Longman Book Project

message: Looks like you're doing great with the copyedit you requested - when you get done just call for the proofreader.
Wish me luck on the Mighty Move to Indy!
~ Otterpops 06:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I'm heading out

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