Talk:Maria Theresa Asmar

message: As someone who has read Memoirs of a Babylonian Princess, I have been making sure that this article consist of correct information. Yet my edits have been undone many times now by one specific user. I am glad that some of my edits finally have been kept in the revision of this article from 2 December 2021. Yet this version still consist some factual inaccuracies and own interpretations of the book. I'll list them below before I make my changes.
The total amount of pages in both volumes of Maria Theresa Asmar's book are much less than 720. Sitting with the volumes next to me, I can see that the first volume consists of 211 pages and the second 318. That makes a total of 529 pages. I don't find the amount important enough to include in the article and will therefore omit it.
I'm really not sure why Assyria (northern Mesopotamia) and Chaldea (southern Mesopotamia) has to be mentioned at all, when Mesopotamia is already listed in the countries she described. However I don't oppose to that, but would rather formulate it to "describing her travels through her home country  Mesopotamia, including Assyria and Chaldea." That way we also mention that Mesopotamia was her home country – she partly grew up in Bagdad and partly in Mosul after all (vol. 1, p. 24).
As explained before, while Asmar indeed visited Turkey, she never describes the country and she explains why in vol. 2 pp. 58–59. Same goes with Egypt (ibid.) and Cyprus (ibid 247–248). She does describe her stay in Italy, France and Great Britain however (the latter part of the second volume takes place in Europe). Therefore I don't understand the persistence of keeping Turkey in this sentence but not the European countries: "describing her travels through Assyria,[2] Chaldea,[3] Mesopotamia,[4] Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine and the harem system used in Turkey." Also she describes the harem system used throughout the Ottoman Empire and not only in Turkey.
Maria Theresa Asmar claims patriarch Joseph I as her ancestor, not Joseph IV Lazar Hindi. "I recollect well my father recounting to me that one of my ancestors, Mor Yusuf, the first patriarch of the Chaldean Catholics of that name"
This brings me to the next thing. I have been accused of being nationalistic when calling Asmar a Chaldean, which she was. Yet the editor of the latest revision emphasize on the common Middle Eastern name "Hindi", when trying hard making Asmar an Indian. Which one of us is driven by an unmotivated nationalistic agenda? Throughout the book it is clear that Asmar identifies as a Chaldean. In vol. 1 p. 152 she meets a fellow Chaldean and they become "the most harmonious little family, for the lady was also a Chaldean Christian". In vol. 2 p. 68, Asmar writes "my fellow-countrymen, Chaldeans, passed by me". Asmar also receives a letter from the bishop of Alqosh, written in Chaldean Neo-Aramaic and she translates it for the readers (vol. 2 p 313-314). Etc.
Lastly, I don't find a whole quote from the first page of her book, where she describes her origins according to the tradition of her family, necessary. According to Wikipedia rules, quotes should not be overused. Quotations that are used to make a point that can be paraphrased counts as overuse. MrKnowItAll-TheOG (talk) 00:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
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