Talk:Mac OS X Tiger

message: Unless other Mac OS X pages, there is no system requirements section on this one. Anyone to fix this? --Bernard François 08:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: System Requirements

message: At the top of this page, and on the requested moves page,  is proposes a move from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger to Mac OS X Tiger.
Underneath that it says change it to Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.
Which are we being asked to vote on? I have no problem with losing the 'v'. I have a problem with losing the version number. Can we have some clarity please? Icundell (after the fact signing 'cos I forgot)
:There is no clarity. Essentially there are 3 issues:
*Include a "v" prefixing the version number
*Include the version number itself
*Include the code name
There is no clear consensus at this point. I encourage us to vote on all three issues so we know exactly what we are doing. --Ctachme 02:07, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. In that case I'm inclined to say the 'v' is a bit ugly, but the version number is essentially. Icundell 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: I think it looks weird without the 'v', with the 'X' and '10' right next to each other - it's like when people would say "Mac OS 9 9.1". Otherwise I agree that the version number is important, whether or not the cat name (for Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger - not the previous two) is put after it. - Brian Kendig 02:58, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Exactly what is being proposed?

message: I think this page is kind of confused and unclear on what people are voting, so I've tried to make the poll more concise, and I've posted it at Talk:Mac_OS_X#What should the versions be called? (because this applies to all Mac OS X versions, not just this one). - Brian Kendig 02:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll on the Mac OS X talk page

message: Can we get a new screenshot of Tiger that:
* has some open windows and applications (that come with Tiger)—not to the point of clutter, just one or two that are more relevant than a blank desktop;
* uses a smaller resolution so that more detail is visible in the thumbnail?
—Miles←☎ 01:59, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, i'll make one just like the one I did for panther --Ctachme 02:47, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Such a screen shot would idealy be shot at the smallest resolution possible with a Finder window open, the dock showing, and a spotlight search in progress. --huwr 06:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

text: And screenshots of screen remnants? The scroll bar halves, and all the other things ushered in by the new KPIs - which this article also doesn't mention! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:cb18:2ba:e300:4451:c312:eea9:360 (talk • contribs) 07:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Screenshot

message: Mac OS X 10.4 itself has little to do with the intel transition, and the paragraph should be removed, i think. Is tiger intel-compiled?
:I disagree.  OS X has everything to do with the Intel transition.  Without an operating system that is fundamentally cross-platform, Apple wouldn't be able to do what they are planning. --Yamla 22:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tiger has been compiled for IA-32 x86, and someone's been leaking build numbers onto the Mac OS X page (that apparently the 10.4.3 release for those developers with Intel Transition kits was done within days of the official release for PowerPC). As far as what else is already recompiled and working on a MacIntel, I can't even speculate. --JohnDBuell | Talk 07:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

text: This whole sub-topic can probably be removed; Mac OS X 10.4.4 and later are available for the Macintosh Intel machines, and every system release since then has worked on both ppc and x86 architecture systems. Stattenf 04:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove x86 paragraph? 

message: The images on this page are absolutely ugly. Anyone with Tiger can upload a hi-res version.--Nessup 17:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Quality 

message: This is a pretty good article, but it's really lacking in the sources department, especially for claims in the "Interesting facts" section. Everything else that could be categorized as "news events" (like Apple filing suit against file sharers).  Apple themselves are a fine source for information about the OS itself (ie. new features), but let's see if we can find some reliable sources for the rest.  Warrens 23:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added a source for the whole numbers thing.  Also re-named the heading, firstly because it was a bit POV and secondly it is probably the least "interesting" section in the whole damn article. AlistairMcMillan 00:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: How do I change cursors in OS X 10.4?
:That's new. I've never heard of anyone who wanted to change the cursor, and I can't find any software at the moment. Is there a particular problem you have with the current cursor? --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 05:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As of version 1.3, Mighty Mouse is Intel-compatible. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 06:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Getting rid of the ugly black arrow

message: Is Tiger a 64 bit OS for the purposes of x86-64 extended registers? Frankie
:No, it isnt at all. x86_64 support is introduced in Mac OS x v10.5 Leopard.
:—Claunia 13:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for answering, was looking in here for it too. - MSTCrow 08:23, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 64 bit and x86 registers?

message: I'm in support of this merge; I think that the Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext easter egg is at the very least interesting, at the very most, a point of discussion about different software companies' approaches to piracy given their needs. Beatsleepless 04:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm opposed to merging it here. There's no particular reason it belongs in the 10.4 article. Odds are it will still be there in 10.5. I think a RFD on Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext would be more appropriate. --Steven Fisher 20:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I think the macs before OSX had an image hidden somewhere too. Can't find a ref though. --h2g2bob 18:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm opposed to merging it here. Infact I'm not convinced it warrants mention at all. Some extension comes with some text-file and exports some text into address-space ? Does anybody care ? --Eivind Kjørstad 11:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree.  This is trivial in the extreme.  AlistairMcMillan 11:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext Trivia Merge

message: What exactly is v10.4? Is it "v. 10.4"? I can't see a reason for keeping this. Nobody calls OS X like that not Apple/users/journalists. Also server editions of OS X comes without v - Mac OS X Server 1.0 as well as all versions in Mac OS X Server and Mac OS 9 etc. I suggest move of client versions to Mac OS X 10.x. Anyone disagrees?--Pethr 05:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. Is it really important? It comes up by searching Mac OS X Tiger anyway, and this is the oficial name.--Adam Fisher-Cox (criticize or compliment) 22:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand your point. I proposed move to "Mac OS X 10.4", v10.4 isn't official name as you suggested. The move was proposed for consistency and common usage reasons.--Pethr 02:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In moving without consensus, you've created many double redirects. --Steven Fisher 17:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: On your point that "Nobody calls OS X like that not Apple..."  Perhaps you should have researched that a little more.  Mac OS X v10.4  Mac OS X v10.4  APPLE-SA-2006-06-27 Mac OS X v10.4.7  Mac OS X Server version 10.4  If you had posted this query on Talk:Mac OS X, you would have received a lot more responses.  AlistairMcMillan 19:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooops, you're right. There are other examples as well   but Apple really uses v for OS X versions. In general google returns more matches on Mac OS X 10.4 but it can be discussed if it is right. v10.4 seems incorrect because abbreviation should look like "v. 10.4" to be correct... Also common usage is IMO argument in this matter.--Pethr 19:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: As you said, the discussion is two years old and no consensus has been reached. Nobody uses this name and nobody searches for it. It is also not correct abbreviation. I see strong case for avoiding v in article name.--Pethr 00:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  What do you mean "nobody uses this name"?  Apple uses it.  Do you want more examples, from their press releases "Apple® today previewed Mac OS® X version 10.4", "Apple® today announced that Mac OS® X version 10.3", "we think the combination of OS X v10.2", "Mac OS X v10.2".  From their support pages "Mac OS X v10.4", "Mac OS X v10.3", etc  , etc.  I could go on for ages.  You can't say "no one uses this", when Apple uses it again and again and again. AlistairMcMillan 00:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The mentioned discussion ended with no conclusion, it simply died down. No consensus or overwhelming support for one or another has been reached. It's like names of countries - use official name in Infobox but place the article according to the most commonly used name. I wonder if you really think that people intuitively use "v10.4" when trying to get information on the subject of this article?--Pethr 01:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "Mac OS X 10.4" 

message: I think when iPhone roles out, the short snippet in the intro to the article about a specialised OS X on ATV should get a new section that deals with the new, customised versions of OS X on ATV and the iPhone. It seems odd to add the info in a couple of sentences in the intro without going into more detail.Nja247 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The iPhone and Apple TV versions of Mac OS X are likely going to be specific to those platforms, so it makes more sense to go into detail about them in the iPhone and Apple TV articles.  AlistairMcMillan 23:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The comment in the intro looks as though it's orphaned and doesn't belong. I read the article the other day and that stuck out in my head.Nja247 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Idea

message: Could be a "B" class article, however lacks criticism and overall reception into the market. Also no reviews of the product are present.
:The versions section would like MUCH better as a table. Nja247 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

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message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mac OS X Leopard which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RFC bot 21:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: I think the following quote needs a reference or should be removed,
"Although the only Intel discs produced were the gray-colored "restore" DVDs supplied with new Macs that will only install on the model of Mac that they are intended for, unlike the retail DVD that can be used on any Mac supported by Tiger."
There is no example given to prove that this is completely factual.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by User99671 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  OSX Reinstall Disks 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Tiger began a period of intensely embarrassing system and hardware fails for Apple. How curious this is not even mentioned here. Winston Smith?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:cb18:2ba:e300:4451:c312:eea9:360 (talk) 7:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: No Issues?

message: The reception section of this article has a lot of notable weaknesses.
John Siracusa is not a relevant enough person to have his own wikipedia page atm and a quick google search yields that he is hosts like 3 podcasts has a mid tier following on twitter and Mastodon. Name dropping ArsTechnica might be better in this section. Also might be good to include that his article concludes with high praises for the operating system. 
 John Siracusa wrote that some features in Tiger were half-baked, such as filesystem metadata, Spotlight, and Dashboard. According to Siracusa, Spotlight in Tiger is confusing because it has two disparate interfaces which are kept separate, yet can accomplish the same task. Siracusa also wrote that some of Dashboard's UI choices were strange.Also one guys opinion isn't enough to get a general sense of the reception here are few other reviews from notable websites
Household name David Pogue (of recent submersible related fame) calls "the classiest version of Mac OS X ever and, by many measures, the most secure, stable and satisfying consumer operating system prowling the earth." He praises the intuitiveness of Spotlight feature and applauds new security features that made it stand out from the at the time much more vulnerable Windows XP, but is less than impressed with Dashboard as it resembles popular shareware. He also critizises the hefty price point https://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/28/technology/circuits/from-apple-a-tiger-to-put-in-your-mac.html
Mark Sparrow of tech.co.uk (now TechRadar) also lauds Spotlight, as well as fast install times and introduction of 64 bit computing which added speed to resource heavy programs commonly used on macs at the time. However they lament the lack of a discount for users upgrading from the previous OS.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/software/operating-systems/mac-os-x-10-4-tiger-33154/review
Still looking for sources that actually represent the less favorable viewpoints that some others on this talk page and in various comments sections express and would love imput on that.  Will return to this in a few days. 
PyropePe (talk) 19:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception is weak