Talk:SeaWorld Orlando

message: I'm trying to revise the article to be less a promotional piece and more of an informational one.  I think it should describe the facilities and what's offered instead of describing the shows.  I'll keep looking for more information on the park, to spruce it up.  Hope others can find stuff, too!
McDoobAU93 17:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The shows are primarily what's offered.  However, I agree with toning down any promotional language.  Rklawton 10:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We're on the same page.  I attempted to emphasize the number of theatres and arenas, and then mention the current productions playing in them.  I want to try and get theatre capacities, although all that's verifiable is the "maximum occupancy" signs on the theatres themselves, and that would then be WP:OR.  --McDoobAU93 12:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's published (posted), verifiable, and reliable, it's not OR.  Rklawton 13:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That works for me.  I'll see about tracking that information down over the next few visits to the park.  I've seen the occupancy signs for Shamu Stadium and Atlantis Bayside, and can probably find the others without much hassle.  I'm trying to figure out how to cite that information properly.  Suggestions?  Looking into the future, next year is the park's 35th anniversary, so I'm hoping that some more published info comes out on the park's history so we can expand the article.  Thanks for your input and guidance.  --McDoobAU93 14:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article revisions

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message: Having the article say "near Orlando" and having the category say "in Orlando" is a contradiction and UNENCYLOPEDIC VANDALISM 74.225.51.206 (talk) 03:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  per Wikipedia:Vandalism "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism". Jeepday (talk) 03:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  How is treating the word 'in' equal to 'near' good faith?  Maybe if the person is retarded or doesn't understand the most basic English prepositions  74.225.51.206 (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  After you finish reading WP:RRR you might want to read Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Jeepday (talk) 04:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's no use, Jeepday. This user is another suspected sock puppet. Each time, editors assume good faith and try and explain about how to nominate categories, consensus, etc.  It hasn't taken, language gets abusive, IP gets blocked, new IP sprouts up and starts changing things again. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your contradictory edits 

message: I've noticed that an editor has added the names of some of the animals appearing in the park's shows and exhibits.  While that information may be interesting, I'm concerned that (a) the presentation isn't consistent and (b) how do we verify them?  I have no reason to believe the names aren't accurate, and definitely assume good faith on the editor who added them, and further I think that information should remain in the article. Any assistance would be very welcome. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Foremost, I am sorry for the awkwardness of the article now that I added some of the other animal names.  However, I have noticed in numerous SeaWorld articles all of the orcas are listed.  Granted SeaWorld's ion is "Shamu," an orca, but a believe all of the other animals are just as important, especially now.  I watched a National Geographic episode regarding polar bears.  Due to Alaska's glaciers melting, the polar bears are swimming over 60 miles compared to the normal 15 miles, in order to obtain food.  Furthermore, Alaskan natives wants to hunt polar bears, since they have been invading human communities.  The polar bears and other species of animals are headed towards the extinction list.  Thus, SeaWorld's other species of animals are just as important as the star of the park.  After searching online, I have found some articles that verifies the names of the animals.  Polar Bears: ([], [], and []); Beluga Whales: [] and []; and Pseudorcas [] and [].  Furthermore, SeaWorld is obtaining a beluga calf named Maple from Marineland Ontario [].  Until we can figure out a proper way to display the names of the other animals, I will work on inserting the cited information.  SWF Trainer (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:   I think we should add a section to the article and just include the names of the animals per location in paragraph or list form.  SWF Trainer (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't disagree with that. However, it doesn't need to be in the opening section. That should be only for the introduction and any other overall pertinent information. Thanks for your assistance! --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After spending hours on this project, I have created the "Animal Inventory" section.  Therefore, everything that I have added to the article earlier in the day has been moved to this new section.  Please take a look and modify as you see fit!  Thanks! SWF Trainer (talk) 23:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: Other theme park articles have such a section or subsection, i can only thing of one attraction at sea world orlando that is no longer there, the Bermuda Triangle experiance ride, it was replaced by the Wild Arctic attraction some years ago.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 05:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the theme and name were the only things that changed, everything else is the same. :) --A3RO (mailbox) 16:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  past shows/rides/etc 

message: I wanted to get other editors' thoughts on the new format for the Rides Section. While I appreciate editors trying to make improvements to the article I do not understand this edit.  The Tables do not seem to have any rhyme or reason to them.  They are not in alphabetical order or chronological order. I am not seeing the usefulness of this change.  I would appreciate others' thoughts on the new format. Viewmont Viking (talk) 22:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Format for Rides Section 

message: Independent section well-founded for Tilikum after 3 deaths now. These are rare and unusual incidents, and have been highly publicized. --Oaktreebay (talk) 23:11, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this done to add information to the article, or to push a particular point of view in regards to animals in captivity? The animal has its own article where all these matters are discussed, which includes a link to its home facilities over the years. Thus, this segment is simply repeating information and is superfluous to the article. In future, please discuss matters on the talk page first before re-adding potentially controversial content. For additional information, please read this discussion.  --McDoobAU93 23:18, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

text: I have just made an edit that reduces the amount of weight given to the subject (per WP:UNDUE) and yet provides the controversial information, as well as a link to the animal's separate article on Wikipedia. This would allay my concerns about your addition.  --McDoobAU93 23:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tilikum 

message: SeaWorld partners with favorite local restaurants to bring sizzling BBQ and an array of thirst-quenching beer in an amazing atmosphere. And of course, incredible concerts with top artists in classic rock and country music. Bands, Brew & BBQ is included with park admission.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.205.118 (talk) 01:03, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bands, brews,&BBQ's 

message: After the death of trainer Dawn Brancheau in 2010, OSHA has slapped restrictions on the proximity of Seaworld's trainers to the killer whales, in addition to finding the park negligent and slapping it with a large fine.  The appeal of that decision is taking place this week:       .  Based on the media coverage, a separate article on the case, titled SeaWorld of Florida v. Thomas E. Perez, No. 12-1375, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit might be justified with a paragraph or two introduction and link to it in this article. Cla68 (talk) 04:48, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In violation of WP's guidelines, some keeps reverting my addition of the barrier restriction from the article.  As what I said above indicates, the sourcing is solid. Cla68 (talk) 21:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: McDoob said that the documentary Blackfish was "not a reliable source."  It's produced by CNN for pete's sake.  How about a little cooperation here, gents, and a little less edit warring and wikilawyering?  This is why WP is slowly dying. Cla68 (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: CNN's credibility has taken no small number of hits over the last few years. The information was re-added with less sensationalism and less bias, using the coroner's report where the bulk of this information was originally located, in Tilikum's article.  --McDoobAU93 21:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Restrictions on trainer proximity

message: Hi. While we could absolutely use Blackfish as a source for things such as the general narrative of the documentary in our article for it, or perhaps for uncontroversial facts described by it, it's a bit offputting to see multiple attempts put in to use this documentary as a source for the somewhat gory details of a trainers death. I don't believe we can consider this film a reliable source for it, and should strive to be using secondary sources for it or high quality primary sources (such as the coroner's report already included.) , why do you believe that it's necessary to use this film as  a source in this article? What content could we add with it that we cannot source to something else that is more reliable? PeterTheFourth has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 22:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using the documentary Blackfish as source 

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message: Not sure where in the article, but may be worth adding something about the mimes:
*https://www.sun-sentinel.com/1991/04/30/silent-shtick-just-doesnt-click-with-much-of-the-public/ (https://archive.is/BE7lB)
*https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2009/07/03/seaworlds-mimes-silent-but-silly-fun/ (https://archive.is/LdjIz)
*https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2014/12/16/seaworld-lays-off-clyde-seamore-mimes/ (https://archive.is/5arWQ)
*https://www.mcall.com/2016/10/20/mimes-will-return-to-seaworld-for-christmas/ (https://archive.is/oQr8V)
*https://behindthethrills.com/2019/02/theyre-back-mimes-return-full-time-to-seaworld-orlando-with-new-sea-lion-show/
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