Talk:Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran

message: The TransIranian railway was not necessarily complete when Anglo-Soviet forces invaded.  Some road haulage was necessary to complete the link.
*That is covered in the Persian Corridor article and isn't related to the invasion itself, so I think it's okay that that fact isn't mentioned. --Loopy 20:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete 

message: The Aftermath section mentions a pro-Soviet regime in Azerbaijan Province.  Modern Iran has both an East Azerbaijan and a West Azerbaijan.  Were these historically one province, or were puppet governments established in both?
--Wechselstrom 15:28, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was installed in East Azerbaijan, and only partially in Western Azerbaijan. Part of Western Azerbaijan was under the Kurdish Mahabad rule.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Azerbaijan Province

message: I merged the contents of Operation Countenance here as the two articles were duplicative. I thought about making that article cover solely the military operations of the invasion, with this one addressing the background (u r a chode) and aftermath and such, but didn't think there was enough material to warrant splitting the articles yet. If the section on military operations expands it could be spun back out into a subarticle of this one, with  links as needed. I mostly left the incoming links alone in case someone decides to do this. —Charles P._(Mirv) 16:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  merged 

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thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Wasnt this country called Persia at this time?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.155.94.164 (talk) 01:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it was still often called Persia by westerners, officially the country's name had been Iran since 1935. See Iran. Dabbler (talk) 10:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To correct User:Dabbler here, the country has been called Iran long before 1935. Western texts do erroneously refer to it as Persia which is the name of a province in Iran now pronounced as Fars. Iran officially requested that Western countries use the proper term Iran in lieu of Persia, in the mid  1930's.Janus945 (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persia 

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thread_title: Improvements

message: Deleted last paragraph starting: The United States became involved in Iranian politics,... as it had nothing to do with the subject of the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: sections

message: Could we have a map (or an external link to a map?) of the demarcation between the Russian and British zones please? I take it there wasn't joint occupation of the territory? best, 194.80.106.135 (talk) 19:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map? 

message: This Israeli site: [Haaretz] has article about the fact that Iran demands WWII reparations from Allied powers, because of this operation.Agre22 (talk) 15:27, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Iran demands WWII reparations from Allied powers

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message: While I acknowlwedge the need for balance and previously the article may have been seen as supporting the UK/USSR viewpoint, it now reads like an Iranian propaganda article. "Iranian Pearl Harbour" in one of the references for example. I will be reviewing references and making adjustments. Dabbler (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure that is the case, although based on your actions so far, you seem to be determined to turn this into a propaganda article for the British Empire. Your actions are clearly in violation of well understood rules in Wikipedia, particularly usage of Source materials rather than your personal opinionsJanus945 (talk) 18:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV abandoned

message: I have posted a POV section notice on the disputed passage in the hope that Janus945 will explain his objection rather than just deleting the referenced wording that i have used. I have tried to reflect the content of the references without inserting a POV. The words seem to me to reflect the sources. I would like Janus945 to explain exactly why he considers them POV.  Dabbler (talk) 10:33, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi this has been explained to you. You cannot introduce POV material to Wikipedia, especially unsourced material. Janus945 (talk) 17:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Update: In response to Dabbler's reintroduction of unverifiable material about a "british warning" prior to the invasion, I have again reviewed all verifiable sources and the only 'new' revelation here is that the British had some how demanded from  the ruling Shah that German nationals working in Iran be expelled by Iran; No mention of an upcoming military intervention/invasion of any kind was given on the dates specified.Janus945 (talk) 06:18, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: POV section?

message: This article continues to suffer from major disruptive editing from User:Dabbler and now User:Grant65. Requesting administrator restoration of name to "Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran" which is the correct historical name of this invasion as discussed by media and historical textsJanus945 (talk) 18:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting admin restoration of name of article to original name "Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran" 

message: Can we get an occupation map with perhaps the movements during the Allied invasion to get a clearer image of the territorial changes? 83.83.59.46 (talk) 17:15, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occupation map 

message: Can I once again ask that Janus945 please give some reasons for his continued personal attacks on me and his persistent accusations of POV and deletion of cited material. The issues have all been raised in the Talk page above and you can read the responses above. Dabbler (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Please will you discuss rather than delete

message: The article says that Iran was self-sufficient in small arms, however there was no supporting reference for this claim. Having looked into it a bit, it seems that the Iranian army used an imported Czech rifle (the vz. 24), though the supporting references for this are a bit vague as well. FOARP (talk) 17:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iranian small arms 

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message: Someone has put in a few morsels about how the Iranians of that era were not anti-Semitic, and they rescued, and assisted, and etc. etc. Note that Wikipedia's own article on the history of the Jews in Iran strongly disagrees, and notes many German commercial and political contacts in the 1930s, leading to a rise in anti-semitism. So those phrases are, at best, incomplete, and a worst an attempt at a whitewash, to make it look as though there was no significant German influence in Iran, thus, no need for the invasion. It seems to me, looking at the edit war between Dabbler and another fellow, that the article has been edited so as to make the invasion look less justified than, in its own historical context, it actually was. Theonemacduff (talk) 01:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  anti-semitism 

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message: Concern, this article looks like an apologia for European colonialism. Everything is written to justify the British control and attacks on a non white nkn Christian people. It comes across as typical casual European racism.
There is even one comment on this Talk page which uses alleged Iran anti semitism to justify white Europeans killing Iranian Muslim civilians.this is shockingly racist and is an abuse of the idea of antisemitism. Just one example, but this kind of article is typical of what makes the whole of Wikipedia look like just another piece of white European history as propaganda. Surely Wikipedia can be better than this? Felimy (talk) 13:39, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: these are pretty extreme criticisms and while I beleive it possible the article gives some undue speculation favoring the Allies vs Iranian POV that perhaps should be removed. But a random talk page comment aside (as such does not appear in the article itself and is therefore irrelevant), can you please provide more concrete examples of what you're talking about? OgamD218 (talk) 21:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colonial bias