Template talk:Infobox chess opening

message: * How about adding in the template some elements on the birth of the opening, e.g. year of birth, game of birth, first player to play it, or things like that ? SyG 10:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth

message: * How about adding in the template the Parent of the opening ? For example the Ruy Lopez comes from the King pawn opening, the Dragon comes from the Sicilian, etc ? SyG 10:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Parent

message: * How about adding in the template some statistics, like % of black wins, % of white wins, % of draws, % of use ? SyG 10:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Statistics

message: *How about adding the FEN string of the position into the template? —ZeroOne (talk / @) 19:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FEN

message: *We also need an AKA ("Also known as") field/list.  E.g., the example "Ruy Lopez" is perhaps better known internationally as the "Spanish Game" or "Spanish Opening".  Some openings or variations have several names.  --Wfaxon 22:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AKA

message: I think the template is a bit too wide.  I've put it into Ruy Lopez, Exchange Variation.  Bubba73 (talk), 01:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too wide

message: One can use the  template to save some space and time. Using this, the openingname in the template will always correspond with the title of the page. This would prevent the situation in for instance Budapest Defence where the infobox has Budapest Gambit as main title. The reason why I didn't implement it in the template is that the example on the template page wouldn't look nice :) Any suggestions? Voorlandt 21:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great one! I have changed the Budapest Defence accordingly. SyG 08:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's too bad if PAGENAME shows up in this template page. I have changed the template now to use PAGENAME but openingname will still override it if used. I also wrote usage instructions so that no one should be surprised when they see "Infobox chess opening" text in the box. —ZeroOne (talk / @) 00:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work!Voorlandt 08:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pagename

message: Cool! Bubba has put the Template in use in Ruy Lopez, Exchange Variation. I agree with the general comment from I-dont-remember-who that we should wait for the Template to stabilize a little before using it extensively, but I really could not resist the temptation, so I put it in the Budapest Defence (sorry!!). It looks really great.
Now how should we proceed to have a widespread use (assuming we wish one)? 
I first thought to list in this section all the places where this Template is used... but after some thoughts I remembered the "What links here" on the left is perfectly suited for that :-)
So I would suggest several possibilities:
* let Users use this template if they want, and don't push things (that sounds cool)
* all of us start to pick up an opening randomly, and we put the template in it (that sounds coool)
* get some sort of split of all (WHAT??) openings between volunteers and each volunteer puts the template in the openings that have been allocated to him (that sounds cooool)
* other way to do (that sounds really coooool)
As you can read I am rather open-minded on this one ;-) SyG 18:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, looks nice to me too. But don't forget to leave out the |tright in the diagram (compare the layout of Ruy Lopez, Exchange Variation (OK) and Budapest Defence (NOK)). On the way of doing it, I think nr 2 is the way to go. Voorlandt 21:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the tip, I changed the Budapest. This "tright" thing is a real trick for me, as I am so used to put diagrams on the right. By the way, now I think I may not try to put the Infobox in all the openings articles. I mean, what is the purpose of spending some time to carefully put a nice template in an opening article which is only three-sentences-long ? So I will implement it in the openings articles by class-order, starting from FA-class down to Start-class, but leaving the stubs to their own fate :-) SyG 20:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have started incorporating it as well, but in the spirit of what SyG noted have now begun to focus on the most prominent openings (after doing Bird's, Benko Gambit, Nimzowitch Defence, etc.).  My idea is that they are most likely to stay on Wikipedia long-term. Baccyak4H (Yak!) 17:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Use

message: List of chess topics can be found at: List of chess openings and List_of_chess_topics#Opening_articles. For now we have about 38/141 done:
:Update:
:now we have about 68/166 done. ChessCreator (talk) 21:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: I find the Grey bland as anything. Can some better colour be found ChessCreator (talk) 15:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Heading Bar

message: Seems some issue as sometimes 'named' and 'after' appear on two different lines, given the impression named after parent. Example here and here. ChessCreator (talk) 01:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alignment