Talk:Robert Haralick

message: If I might set an example of full disclosure in the scholarly tradition: ironically enough, I have a past connection with R. M. Haralick, but nonetheless I believe my additions satisfy WP:NPOV.  At any rate I think I have provided sufficient verification for the connection with bible codes.---CH 10:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Small disclaimer

message: The prescribed style for biographies is to not use titles like "Dr." or "Professor" except maybe  at the very start.  See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies).  --McKay 05:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Writing style

message: One aspect not mentioned on the Haralick page is the "Forward Checking" algorithm that Dr. Haralick and I created. (J.J. McGregor simultaneously created and published a very similar algorithm, we are often given co-credit.)
This algorithm is now mentioned in computer science books in the topic of "constraint satisfaction". A Google Scholar search Will show the article introducing the algorithm as just about the most often cited single article in the subject. J.J. McGregor's work was very similar, but ours was much more accessible and prominently published. (This article was also for some time Haralick's most cited single article. OH--forward checking has its own redirect, which is certainly significant enough for mention here!)
The actual history (documented nowhere I know of) is that Dr. Haralick invented a version we called (I believe) "partial lookahead", and I made another improvement to strip out additional consistency checks by realizing that another set of checks could be removed. I coded the algorithm, and Dr. Haralick was very excited in some testing late the next night. We published a comparison of algorithms named "Increasing Tree Search efficiency for Constraint Satisfaction Problems" in 1979, and longer version in 1980 which introduced the algorithm.
It is now available as a part of suite in 9.1 version of SAS/OR (CLP manual). It is widely taught because of its simplicity, and for 10 years as the most efficient known algorithm. Research that came after produced methods that allow constraint satisfaction to be used in puzzle solving applications like genome sequencing--I do not know the degree to which our earlier work provided any foundation, but it is certainly cited. Here is a tutorial to understand the basic area: http://4c.ucc.ie/web/outreach/tutorial.html .
Also I can confirm the involvement of Dr. Haralick in "bible codes". A friend has been a vocal and well respected opponent, noting these codes can occur strictly as statistical anomaly, e.g. could be found anywhere if looked for. I personally have had my hands on decks of cards (many drawers full), back in the days one used those, containing coded copy of the bible, in mid-late 70's, while we were researching various pattern recognition topics. I personally take exception to the language "..deceptively depicted as encodings in books like Moby Dick and War and Peace from those real encodings that occur in the Torah text" which appears in a sentence along with normal pattern recognition results. This is a cliam made by Dr. Harallck and others, widely disputed by others. The author of this biography should not take upon him/her self to analyze the accuracy of such a claim. I believe it should appear in a separate paragraph, and should be accompanied with disclaimer language since it is so controversial, and should in no case be presented as though the WIKI authors are representing Torah codes as "real".
Sorry don't know how to log in at the moment, and don't want to promote myself so won't attempt to add to this article myself, will leave decisions on the issue to others. Thanks 64.136.209.228 20:40, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constraint satisfaction/"Forward checking" algorithm 

message: The concern isn't whether Haralick is involved in Bible Codes.  It's whether that's the source of his notability, and whether someone, once they are notable in one field, can simply have whatever else they do inserted into a Wiki-biography.  I think this is against the general policies of the Biography project.  If a person is notable for computer vision (which is not well-established here, as it is - as there are no secondary sources), then the article should stick to computer vision.  If the person is notable for Bible/Torah work, then second secondary sources and ways of establishing notability in that area need to appear.  For example, while Haralick clearly has academic appointments in fields related to computer vision, he has no academic appointments in religious studies.  This is a problem.  Indeed, there are so many problems with this article, as the tags reflect.  However, copyediting is no longer one of them, this is no longer a copyediting problem.  I have asked for help in what to do next about the other unaddressed issues and begun adding much-needed fact tags.  Levalley (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability issues 

message: Is it appropriate to have Who's who listings and so forth in this article?  And what about mentioning how many articles the person has published?  What's the point of that?  To establish notability, one must not merely publish, but be cited by others - a few of those kinds of citations would really be helpful here.Levalley (talk) 22:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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