Talk:Bryant Gumbel

message: - WHY ARE YOU EDITING THIS OUT OF THE CONTROVERSY SECTION:
In the closing monologue of the February 7 edition of HBO's "Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel," Gumbel said about the Winter Olympics: "Count me among those who don't care about them and won't watch them...  So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world's greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the winter games look like a GOP convention."
He said it.  It was stupid.  It needs to be listed among his other BONEHEADED comments.  The guy is a tool.
Cracks me up to no end that people keep "cleansing" Gumbels bio.  Talk about censorship.  Wikipedia is guilty of surpressing free speech...talk about revisionist history.  Who censors the censors here?  Various members have been attempting to remove facts from Gumbels bio that shed the true light on his racist agenda.
:Bryant is talented and outspoken. Deal with it.
::Bryant is clearly outspokingly liberal.  But the edits only removed claims like he is best known for his olympics comments.  I would say that is a POV push, as one would think he is most known for being on the Today Show.
:::So is the long list of quotes supposed to make us admire Gumbel or hate him?  He's right on the mark as to how Republicans don't care about poor people and black people.  In either case, it's not NPOV to obsess over controversial remarks.  Two-thirds of the article is just a list of quotations.
::::"He's right on the mark as to how Republicans don't care about poor people and black people."  
::::And we Democrats wonder why we can't win elections.  Maybe it is because of these types of comments.
:::::Added intoduction on controversial remarks section.
Shouldn't there be some mention here about Bryant Gumbel's shameful role in the racist slander and dehumanization of Joe Frazier by Muhammed Ali? If it's not, I can only guess the reason is that the entire media culture was and is culpable for the disgrace. I'd add it myself, because it is documented, but I don't know how.  S.A.Smith  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.45.173 (talk) 15:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: The clips at the bottom of the page are unfair and seek to portray Bryant, one of the most revered journalist in modern times, as a liberal fanatic who uses his public pulpit to spout liberal views. All Tv journalists make statements to one side of the issue or the other when discussing certain topics, play "devil's advocate" at times, or jump on the bandwagon of positive or negative controversies, just look at Fox News. If Wikipedia is going to have these clips for Bryant Gumble, they must have them for every Tv journalist. -Reg
:Then feel free to add them to more Tv journalists.  See Bill O'Reilly controversies
I don't have a problem with the idea behind the following line at the end of the article: "Bryant has earned a reputation as one of the most politically active journalists on TV.[2]." I do, however, have a couple of problems with the execution of it. For one thing, to say that he has "earned a reputation" implies that the matter is settled (and I'm sure that some would disagree with that statement, even if I don't). More importantly, the source for the statement is an article from the National Review, which isn't exactly a bastion of objectivity in its own right. Perhaps the statement could read that "According to the National Review, Bryant has earned a reputation...etc."--Mcglotda 17:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: Unless there is some proof or something that shows he is creole it shouldn't be in there.  Especially considering americans use the one-drop rule
:He was born in  New Orleans.
::That doesn't make him creole. I've lived there. Thats like less than 5% of the population there... 68.229.155.31 23:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creole 

message: The article was protected over claims that certain edits violated a NPOV. This is not vandalism according to Wikipedia's vandalsim policy  There were also attempts to discuss this on the talk page. Two user's involved in the dispute were both stubborn in what should be included in the article.  Again according to Wikipedia's policy on vandalsim this is not vandalsim. Also note that Wikipedia's policy on semi-protection states, " It is also not an appropriate solution to regular content disputes since it may restrict some editors and not others."  Therefore in the spirit of Wikipedia and in compliance with stated policies of Wikipedia the protection should be lifted. Mbofuc 19:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lifting protection 

message: I've moved this from the article, since it's unsourced. If someone can locate a reliable source which asserts this we can discuss it further.
:"Largely because of his polished image as host of the Today show, Bryant Gumbel has come to symbolize the archetype of a African-American who "acts White" or "thinks White".  While his political views and level of community involvement strongly indicate that such a notion has no merit, this image has nonetheless persisted for years.  To this today, being compared to Bryant Gumbel is considered to be an insult to most African-Americans."
*I won't search the entire Net trying to back up something that is, admittedly, based in large part in anecdotes.  But anecdotal information is not necessarily incorrect.  Gumbel's "Blackness" has been attacked by a number of individuals for at least 20 years, and being compared to him is most definitely NOT a compliment to most African-Americans.  Personally, I think that the whole idea of trying to measure someone's "Blackness" (or "Whiteness", etc.) is ignorant and racist.  But what can you do . . .    
ABCxyz,  00:57, 07 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Talking white" 

message: I have deleted the following:  from the "controversies" section: "When Gumbel was first hired, the tapes provided in scouting did not include video. The station believed that he was a white man on hiring. The station attempted to fire him once realizing he was black. A law suit was threatened and he kept his job." It had been tagged as needing a source, but the claim is so vauge (what station, what year, who tried to fire him, when was the law suit threatened?), and unlikley that I don't think it should appear in the article at all unless and until a suitable source is provided. This even could only have occured at Gumbel's first TV job - which was at KNBC in 1972. It is highly unlikely that they did not know he was black, since they hired him from his prvious hosting duties on a show called "Black Sports". If there is any truth in this claim at all it much be more specific and better supported. Gogh 04:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Undocumented claim about first TV job

message: he had a very messy divorce and has 2 kids  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.142.130 (talk) 02:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is divorced, remarried, and a father of 2  

message: When I think of Gumbel, I think of his appearance on Letterman where he spray painted the front of Dave's desk, simply to be a jerk or something? God knows why. Maybe Letterman was in on the "stunt" but it didn't seem that way.
That was years and years ago. I haven't seen Gumbel since then. This article appears to support my impression that this is typical behaviour for the guy.
So maybe the Letterman incident could be added.
Varlaam (talk) 22:26, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letterman show 

message: A whole assortment of racist/bigoted garbage said/done by Gumbel has been repeatedly deleted, yet I don't see any admin types locking this down and taking charge?? It's wiki pages like this that make wikipedia look like a total biased joke. I will be reverting to a very old edit that includes his many idiotic/racist/bigoted comments if unless someone wants to fix the current version to include said material.Whatzinaname (talk) 19:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  what the hell is going on with this wiki page?

message: I don't know where you got this information, but Gumbel was on the Early Show well after 1999, I know because I watched the Early Show specifically because he was on it! He was preparing to leave in the fall of 2001 which is why he happened to be the first one to make the announcement about the attacks on the World Trade Center. MARK VENTURE (talk) 07:18, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Gumbel on Early Show Longer than One Year