Talk:Warriors (novel series)/Archive 1

message: I have an RPG site, and I have joined lots of others. If you did what you were proposing, it will bring far too many members to those already overpopulated sites. One site I am at is Hidden Clans. They have so many members, they are close to an overload of members, even just in the past week, twice they had about 60 guests on the site at once, and no, I am not over exagerating. They even asked me to delete the paragraph about them here, to help bring their guest numbers under control. Also, some new sites are rapidly gaining interest, like mine. They get at least five more members every week, more than some of the older ones. They might not have over 100 members, but chances are, they will soon. I agree about some of the advertising, and think all of the advertising should be kept to the bottom of the page, not anywhere else, as they keep popping up everywhere, spoiling the page.
Me either. Besides, they would just delete it.
::No offense, but I've been on a site that has had 789 members on at once. 24.183.40.221 15:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't agree with the proposal 

message: What you're saying, though, is that some sites don't want to be advertised on here because they want to keep their member levels low. That's all well and good, but I think Oakstar has a good point when she says that it's a free-for-all. Wikipedia is NOT a place to advertise. 
Don't believe me? Visit: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Terms_of_use#Advertising
And I quote: "Commercial activities which have not been authorized by Wikia, Inc. are not permitted on the site. You may not sell or otherwise commercially exploit the use of this service, or access to the service."
You might reply, "but this isn't commercial!"
To which I answer: [quote]"No user shall add advertising that has not been approved by the owner of Wikia."[/quote]
You could say, "Yeah, but we're providing people with a place to role-play. It's a service!"
How pathetic is that? If it's really a service then "new" RPGs are no service at all to people who just want to go to an active RPG, because "new" RPGs do not have enough members, hence the "new" in the title. If you really want to provide non-warriors guests with a service that they can really use, give them a directory that sorts the available RPGs so that people can search for the perfect ones for them. Websites that don't want members don't have to list themselves.
Again, Wikipedia is NOT a place where RPGs can list their URLs in the hopes of getting more members. I don't care how "good" it's been for them, this is NOT the place. It is against the rules and it's going to get the entire section deleted if an admin sees it.
--Hushpelt 21:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't Wikia. The relevant policy for Wikipedia is Wikipedia:External links. If you were looking for the Wikia site on warriors, please see Wikiasite:Warriors. Angela. 15:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I do agree with the proposal... or something like it. 

message: The lengthy list of external links is ludacris, it is far too long and boderline spam. We need to follow a standard of somesort of notability for each site. Yanksox 22:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there are objections I am going to remove all the links (except the official page, and the creator's page) as being spam and not meeting notability. If you have a reason not to delete a link, post why. Yanksox 03:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two days have passed, I will start deleting links. Yanksox 23:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: I would have objected to the removal of all the links had I been here. I have re-added the top two fan-sites, (being Warrior's Wish & StarClan's Mercy) Only the RP sites and a few of the 'fan-sites' had to be deleted. I came here looking for the shrine links and I was very, very dissapointed to find them gone.
Maybe some of the sites that have so much content should be kept up? After all; on the graphics sites you can't add the graphics to Wikipedia.
--Blizzardclaw
:The last thing this page needs is more links, it's not within encylopedic standards at all. Any links posted must be official or meet WP:WEB. We need more contextualized content not more links. Yanksox 02:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Objection

message: Ok, anyone is open to criticm on this, but I had a thought, so no one is offended, or annoyed. Instead of having all of these links which I admit get on my nerves as well. Have any of you seen those Top RPG sites? Well, if someone made a Top Warriors RPG, put them on there, and provide the link to it here, that might solve some of our problems, but also make us look more professional.
Yours Truly
--Brokenwing06 16:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a thought 

message: I thought the Warriors-based sites section uneeded, and it was also reminding me of that link problem that seems to plague this article every so often. It listed a few forums (a few compared to the number there are out here on the net), and if only a few get on, then everyone and their friend will post their own links. Therefore, I deleted the section.
Feel free to complain and stuff, but we really can't have a hundred links leading to forums on here...
TakaraLioness 19:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with the above.  Wikipedia is not a place for links off to fansites.  If someone really wants to find one, they can google it and be done with it.  DoomsDay349 22:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It was not meant as a place where we would have seperate links for each forum. It would be one website with a big list of Warriors fan sites. That way, people who wanted their links up could be happy without having 100 links. I will be starting a new section on it in this discussion page and I will try to explain more clearly. 24.183.40.221 15:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WARRIORS-based Sites? 

message: :May I ask why all of my sections about creating a link where anyone who wanted to send in their Warriors links could, and then there'd be a link to it from Wikipedia was deleted? It would help solve the link problem, and I'm sorry if you disagree, but I think it's rude to delete something people have worked on. Disagree if you want, 66.191.117.215 19:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excuse me, but... 

message: I appreciate you trying to take a stand, but those links are inappropriate for Wikipedia.  None will be allowed.  I personally don't mind reverting it, and if it persists we can get semi-protection.  The article is about the book series, not about the RPing sites.  Those sites, while interesting, have next to nothing to do with the book series in itself.  A site, say, about Warriors speculation that is genuine and not just random fancruft, for the next novel is appropriate; fansites, which these are, are not.  Sorry.  Even if the vote is to approve the proposal, it's not valid; the links will still be reverted. DoomsDay349 18:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In regards to the proposal 

message: Where it shows the characters Scourge from The Darkest Hour should be there.
--Mr.Nobody 03:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scourge

message: PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU EDIT
:Ok, I have quasi-nukified this article, so we can start afresh. It's clear you guys know about this series, but it was getting way out of hand. So, I recommend, you read WP:MoS and Wikipedia's standards on other articles. I think a good article can now come out of here. Yanksox 23:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revampage 

message: Most of you will be happy to know that I reverted the Warrior Cats page back to the original version! Enjoy and keep reading Warriors!
:I have reverted this, please add to the current article as the old one was not nearly up to our standards. Yanksox 04:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   More detailed page 

message: Why is the newer page better than the older one?? The older one was more detailed and just perfect.The new one is rather...short of info
:You can expand this article. The issue with the old page was the fact that's it was not encylopedic, and just something that you find on fansites. Yanksox 04:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone tell me 

message: Something was really wierd about the page layout, so I reverted it to the last edit.  Also, not to self-advertise, but what about The Moonstone Forums (warriorcats.tk) with 200 members?
Uiop 00:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corruped Page Layout 

message: I would like to ask that when anyone is editing the pages, please only put things in that are confirmed facts. As in Cherith of Kate have said them, directly. It is very vague to say "So and so becomes such and such/dies/has kits". This is especially true for the Twilight and Sunset sections. If you do not provide a source, I will assume it's faulty and may take the liberty of removing it.
I agree with the deletion of links, there are plenty of other sites to post those on.  
--Dusk 20:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to comment on an example of what Duskstripe is saying.  A few weeks ago in August 2006, someone had added to the Twilight section about who had died, and other very big spoilers.  Although I knew it to be true, it should be removed from the article because it does not fit with the layout of the other books.  Thank you for your time. Sunset7611
I agree with the fact of putting down information that isn't confirmed and has no source. An example of this would be the "Former Known Clan Members" of ThunderClan and RiverClan. I would really like to know who put that information down. Most of that cannot be confirmed by a source, so no matter how sure that information is, there's no way to prove it. I'm not saying it's COMPLETELY untrue, I mean, I agree that Wolfpelt might have been the medicine cat before Spottedleaf, but there's just no way to prove it. Someone prove me wrong, because I really would like to know where this information came from! Spottedstar 11:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Er. Yeah. Cats like that that have never appeared anywhere in the books or from the authors, those we're not about to count. TakaraLioness 19:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, that's what I thought. Someone was putting all that false information down and saying that they "knew" that stuff, and yet they had no source to it. So yeah, I was just making sure. Thanks! :) Spottedstar 16:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A Small Note

message: There used to be a character page, and a list of herbs, too!  Where did it go?  I agree with Moonshimmer, and all of that stuff should stay.  If it makes the article too long, there should be another article on it.  Also, there isn't really much description on each book; it's just the blurb at the back of the book. 
--SapphireSprite 15:47, 1 August 2006
::All of these things are now on their own page. *Ruby
     
::::JSYK, Moonshimmer, and SapphireSprite, if you're wandering around Wikipedia looking for the page its called Clan (Warriors). it has the info that disappeared off this page. Zukogirl6 13:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to all of the other things, too? 

message: Who is under the pen name Erin Hunter? Sr13 18:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that this talk page is not for discussion of the general topic.  There is likely a forum to ask this question.  However, to answer, I believe it is Kate Cary and Cherith Baldry, both under the pen name so that the library cataloging system will have an easier time of it.  Please take further questions elsewhere.  DoomsDay349 18:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Erin Hunter

message: I've corrected a section that claims that the Warriors Series has Outsold Harry Potter books. I've included links to refrences and explained where the misconception that most Warriors fans have taken up as thier War-cry in the 'WARRIORS MOVIE' crusade.
I simply am noting in here so that more people than I fully aware of the truth of the situation.
Kitsufox 02:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Informaton Corrected 

message: In light of the level of final that in place for the links list discussion, I've archived it. However livly the discussion was, it was a waste of space, as the rules clearly state it's against them. Thusly, we're done discussing it. Those of us working on the Warriors Page have more important matters on our hands, such as getting our artical perfected.
I've added book covers this morning, also.
Kitsufox 14:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archived Links List Talk 

message: Soon, I'm planning on grabbing the first series of novels, 2-6, and New Prophecy number 3 as well as 1, 2, and 5 which I own.  I'm going to glance at all of them and draft them down on paper by myself and translate them here.  Hopefully, this can occur sometime in the next month, while I'm still on break but after Christmas.  Just so everyone knows.  In the meantime, I'll be performing regular maintenance.  DoomsDay349 01:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup Coming 

message: Is it just me, or is the bottom of the page messed up? ~17 January 2007~
:I did see that the entry on Firestar's Quest was in the reference section, if that's what you mean. I'm not sure how to fix it, but other than that, the page looks fine to me.
:And please sign your posts.
:TakaraLioness 22:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's Wrong with this page? 

message: For general reference, here is a list of things we need to do: Pretty much the whole first series needs cleanup and the second series needs some work. We might check for some minor typos just to be safe. After that we should be able to remove the cleanup tags!--Res2216firestar 21:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do list for cleanup 

message: The article says it's released on the Feb.29 but this Febuary only has 28 days then it goes to April when is The Lost Warrior released?
:The article's been fixed to read the correct date, and please sign your posts.
:TakaraLioness 02:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost Warrior Release Date 

message: Hello I'm a new user of Wikapedia and can start the character bio's almost immediatly if you want if you give me the go ahead I can become a regular for the Warriors. Only I can't do any articles for the first series character's Dustpelt,Sandstorm etc. because er, I loaned them out and am not sure when I can get them back. Griffenflash 00:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would rather you focus on improving the List of Warriors Characters entries, as I don't believe the characters are notable enough for each to have their own characters.  Remember to write following the fiction guidelines.  Thanks for your help! DoomsDay349 00:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I can start the character articles 

message: Hello. I'm a huge warriors fan, but I do believe that pictures are needed on the character pages. Descriptions are there, granted, but pictures would be helpful. Possibly one of the little things on the side where it says...
Name
Picture
Relations
Clan
And such? Possibly... Just a suggestion. Of course, we could wait for Secret of the Clans to come out... 
16:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Left click on the image, veiw image, left click again, save image as, save the file, go to upload file, select browse, find your image, click open, change the Destination filename:, select a licensing tag, fill in the Summary:, and click upload file. It sounds hard but its in fact very easy. See my userpage for all the images I've uploaded. Regards, «razorclaw» 22:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures on Character Pages 

message: I agree with a lot that was said above.  I personally think this page needs book covers, more description...  Maybe a Warriors Wiki!  That would be nice.  I will try to put book covers on myself, even though I really don't know how...
April 1, 6:02
Mapleleaf
:There is a Warriors Wiki actually.
:TakaraLioness 21:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Whole New Page 

message: Could we seperate this page into different pages? eg: Warriors (novel series) - Warriors: The New Prophecy (novel series) - Warriors:The power of Three (novel series) - Warriors: Special Editions (novel series) - Warriors: Manga (series) - Warriors Movie? «razorclaw» 23:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About this page... 

message: I've noticed that someone put up a--I don't know what to call it--"suggestion" on the article that the article may "need a complete rewrite." Does the article really need a complete rewrite? It's really gotten very, very much better than what it started out as. Sure, it still can use cleanup, but I don't think it needs to be wiped out and started all over again...
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
TakaraLioness 04:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete Rewrite? 

message: Just wondering, for the character bios, should we have pictures on the characters (if possible)? Dolphinflipper
Wait for the Secret of the Clans to come out.  This has been disscussed before.  Spottedstripe 00:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Pics 

message: Under kits for The Sight, someone keeps saying that there's an Icekit and Foxkit. If there are those kits, whoever's doing it, save it until the book comes out!
Featherfrost 21:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is confirmed that they are kits actually. Read the excerpt for yourselves: http://www.warriorcats.com/update/sight_ex.html. The kits are mentioned by name. With something like that, I don't think you actually have to wait until the book's out to have it up, because anyone can see it. TakaraLioness 00:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: We don't know yet. TakaraLioness 22:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd call Kate's response more humorous than serious. I dunno why they named that kit Foxkit, though Kate did write The Sight (I don't know if that's significant to the kit's name or not, but it is a fact). Oh well. I can't say that I dislike the name or anything. I like it actually. TakaraLioness 22:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah.  Maybe they named the kit Foxkit because it was orange and it had white on the tip of its tail.  Who knows?  We'll know soon enough...and I'm getting really excited about it!!  Spottedstripe 01:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHO IS ICEKIT AND FOXKIT? 

message: Hey, is that Feathertail of Stormfur on the center cover?  Both look alike, and I can't tell.  Spottedstripe 21:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Cherith and the books' descriptions, it's Feathertail. Stormfur's a dark gray cat with amber eyes, not a silver tabby with blue eyes like Feathertail. TakaraLioness 23:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, yeah, duh.  I shoulda known that.  Thanks Takaralioness.  Spottedstripe 23:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moonrise cover 

message: Does anyone know what book Runningnose dies in. It doesn't say in any of the books. I've been wondering about this for days.-Sandstorm April 19 07
:I don't think it does say whether he's died or not. We just know that he's an elder. I'm sure Littlecloud would've said if Runningnose had died, or it would've been announced at a Gathering... TakaraLioness 23:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Runningnose 

message: Something doesn't make sense. In The Sight excerpt, it said something about Stormfur and Brook not having ThunderClan scent, but they should have adapted it after living with ThunderClan for about 6 moons. That's a little confusing.
Featherfrost  23:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was told that from one of the kits' points of views (I can't remember which of them said that line), so maybe it was just what that cat thought... Or maybe Stormfur and Brook went away for a little while or something. Four more days, then we should know. TakaraLioness 23:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, yeah, I can't wait!  I think I'm gonna break down and buy the Power of Three series, because my friend is sick of me borrowing his.  But what Featherfrost said...hmm, that's a topic to ponder on.  Spottedstripe 23:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are Stormfur and Brook still in ThunderClan? 

message: Hi, I just wanted to say the other day I clicked on the 'Warriors Wikiquote' link at the bottom of the page and I wanted to say...well...there is no Wikiquote!  Is this a project in the works, or was there some confusion...?  I know I have a lot of questions, please forgive me, but I think we need to clear this up so it can be deleted if need be.  Thank you all so much!  Spottedstripe 01:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After a bit of looking, I found it: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Warriors. But brace yourself, it's horribly disorganized... ^^; I was thinking of working on it one day, but I guess I never got around to it... TakaraLioness 03:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Once again, you have shown me the answer very simply.  I'll start working on it, but once again TakaraLioness, you have enough knowledge to be a Clan leader. Spottedstripe 11:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, I cleaned up the Wikiquote with the existing quotes, but it still needs more work and more quotes, so I left the clean-up tab up on the top of the page.  I can't do this on my own, so I need some helpers!  Any volunteers?  Spottedstripe 19:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warriors Wikiquote 

message: Hello!  I just want to say that I think that there should be more things changed on this page.  What about a section on due dates?  Or maybe a seperate page on covers?  How about the whole page being seperate, like having the original series by itself, the new prophecy by itself, and so on?  I would do it myself, but I really don't know how to do a new page.  Could anyone tell me?
Mapleleaf (talk), April 21, 2007, 7:39 P.M.
:I don't think the page neeeds to be split up like that exactly. I could see seperate (detailed) pages for each book (the covers could go to their respective books' pages, etc), but since this one is focusing on the series as a whole, it should list all of the books together and such. TakaraLioness 17:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Changes 

message: Part of this section was deleted.
Mapleleaf (talk), April 24, 2007, 4:37 P.M.
:Er.. Seriously though, we shouldn't have the questions posted here on Wikipedia. This page is supposed to be for the discussion of the article itself, not the series... Find somewhere else to list all of these, please... TakaraLioness 17:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wel, my main suggestion is Wands and Worlds itself, but another place could be a forum or someplace like that. For example, the Warrior's Wish forums is one of those places. I'm sure a list of questions will be made there at some point. TakaraLioness 21:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm Confused! 

message: Please stop Wikipedia is not the place for that I deleted the OMG Whitewing, Birchfall and Goldenflower. Griffenflash 19:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The book's officially out, so that stuff can go up. If you don't wanna be spoiled, avoid these articles, because the spoilers are going up and they'll be allowed. TakaraLioness 23:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Ooh, I see. Sorry. ^^; Yeah, I agree with you about not wasting space with those posts. TakaraLioness 01:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OMG! 

message: Molekit was actually called Molepaw so I'm changing it Griffenflash 18:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  From Talk: The Sight 

message: I found two interesting things. 
# Wikipedia:WikiProject Warriors
# Template:Warriors
Regards, «razorclaw» 20:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  After looking around... 

message: How could Graystripe's last manga be after he returns to ThunderClan? He came back in The Sight so what happens after that is already in The Sight and in the rest of the third series. It wouldn't make sense to have a manga on something already in the books. Griffenflash 21:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wait a second... 

message: I know this isn't the right page, but there's been a LOT of vandalism on the clan page, (by someone with a time machine, supposedly) who is posting stuff under current members "as of volume 4" like the apprentices becoming honeystripe, berryfur, mouseheart, and junk like that. Can someone help me here? Crowstar 00:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I said this exact same thing in the Clan Information talk page. I think that it's all just a bunch of fanwork. This goes for everyone, whatever you see that's been updated past The Sight, delete it; it's not true! The book isn't out ANYWHERE yet! So yeah Crowstar, just get rid of all that information and I'll see to putting some kind of semi-lock on the page after I've requested from an administrator. Spottedstar 01:09, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Success! We have semi-protection until June 4th. Is there anything else we need to request for semi-protection? Spottedstar 03:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Lol, me neither! And no problem. Spottedstar 15:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clan (warriors) page help? 

message: Alright, I made a minor change in The Rising Storm article: The cover is Sandstorm and Fireheart follwing the two sick ShadowClan cats Littlecloud and Whitethroat when they go through the tunnel under the road. It would not be Tigerstar stalking Fireheart because Sandstorm was with Fireheart. Besides, the cat behind Fireheart probably wasn't two feet behind him. If that was Tigerstar stalking Fireheart, he wasn't doing a good job, was he? Another thing - Tigerstar is dark brown, like Brambleclaw on the cover of "Midnight". The cat following Fireheart is a pale ginger cat with dark stripes - obviously Sandstorm.
Thanks, Redfur 23:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, I have just one comment about what you changed. I really think that it's Tigerstar who's in the grass, even though what you said was technically right and I agree with it completely. Because the thing is, Erin Hunter doesn't do these herself; it was another company (I'm pretty sure it was Harper Collins or something like that) that are the actual artists and they never really read the book anyways. They just summarize basically what happened in the book in some interesting picture-type thing that turns out to be the cover. But still, what you said was right and technically, it should be Sandstorm that's following Fireheart (even though I don't see WHY she should when he knew she was with him the whole time), but yeah. I won't change anything, I just wanted to say that! :) Spottedstar 22:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Hmmm, well, it DOES look a little like Longtail, but he really has no reason of being there, so... Spottedstar 23:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, then why is she crouched down in the grass? She really does look like she's stalking something! And there's a point with what Mapleleaf is saying. There's no nick in Tigerstar's ear, but neither is there one on Sandstorm's! Ugh, I'm too confused. I'm really hoping now that someone just asked the authors who it was on the chat last night... Spottedstar 20:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Longtail's a pale tom, not a dark brown one. The cat is clearly Tigerstar stalking Fireheart in the back cover. Tigerstar has a deep V-shaped tear in his ear, it isn't a nick. But anyway, why not just describe the cats in the picture, rather than having to name them? That would take away a lot of the argument, I think. TakaraLioness 00:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hear hear! I think that would be the best way to settle this. Thanks, TakaraLioness. Spottedstar 03:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change in The Rising Storm Article 

message: I don't see any point in putting in the Fourth Series till we know what it is called, (Warriors;New Prophecy Warriors; Power of Three Warriors). Because it is annoying to just put "Nothing is known about this book, we have just confirmed that it exists." Badgerstripe 00:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Series 

message: Where is the transcript? Have you guys seen it? I cant seem to find it anywhere, could someone post the link to it?---Snowfall
:Wands and Worlds gave Blizz permission to put an unofficial transcript up. Here: http://warriorswish1.proboards85.com/index.cgi?board=updates&action=display&thread=1180731599&page=1 TakaraLioness 01:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erin Hunter Chat (May 12th) 

message: Okay, seeing as how no one can seem to decide whether it is Sandstorm or Tigerstar (though I firmly believe it is Sandstorm), I think all this 'drama' with the cover is annoying. Everytime I check out the article, there is something different. So I think we should just say "Fireheart and an unknown cat following two ShadowClan cats on ThunderClan territory". 
Redfur 02:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you all understand sourcing at all?  It is not enough to say "most likely" or "supposedly" for these covers.  You have to give reliable sources that say that.  Otherwise it is original research.  Metros 02:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It doesn't have to be anyone.  It could be just a generic cat.  And it's not my job to find a source, it's the duty of the person adding the information.  Metros 16:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: And I did edit it before it was added back by someone else.  I posted this here just to get you kids to understand that the edits you make without sources are inappropriate and speculative.  And seriously, you need to stop with this belief that the only people deserving of the ability to edit or deserving to have their edits respected are those who are registered editors.  There are many IP users who made great contributions to Wikipedia.  Metros 16:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No, because that would be original research to say "well, there's a gray cat on the cover and well, that cat's described as gray, so, it's most likely him."  You need a reliable source that states the definite story of the cover, not just the "most likely" story.  Metros 18:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

text: How do you know it's Fireheart?  Metros 21:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

text: A generic cat.  Also, why are these even necessary?  Why do we need to write the description of the cover if that cover is there for everyone to see on the page?  Can't the reader just draw his or her own conclusions from looking at the picture? Metros 00:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Of course you can...if you have a valid source saying that's what it is.  Metros 13:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously, there are too many discrepancies with these covers where you claim that their truths but there's little caveats to them.  Such as this version of The Darkest Hour article.  Oh it's definitely such and such a cat, although...that cat has green eyes, hmm...but it's definitely him because, well, we think it is.  And there are a few cats in the shadows but we know it's those four cats because, well, we think it is.  Metros 13:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm with Spottedstripe. All of you arguing people, stop fighting because it's getting you nowhere and it's defacing the talk page... And I swear I suggested somewhere on this page that we could just write the descriptions of the cats in the covers (for example, a ginger cat being followed by a brown tabby with a torn ear), rather than having to add names to them... At least that could get rid of this controversy... TakaraLioness 21:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It doesn't matter. This is Wikipedia, it needs sources to back up its info... That's why original research and speculation isn't allowed in the articles. TakaraLioness 01:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rising Storm Cover 

message: Check on sfbookcase.com. Also, i saw Vicky on her tour, and she comfirms it was called The Traitor. But she refused to give away any more info.....that sucks. Check sfbookcasse for summary of book. I AM NOT LYING, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO FLAME ME TO DEATH!! Vicky herself told me, on the tour of course.----Snowfall aka Oaklaw âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.218.52.112 (talk) 09:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, actually, I agree with you. I remember it saying somewhere that it was originally called "The Traitor" until one day I went back there and it's been changed to "The Dark Forest". It was probably here on this site, I dunno, but yeah, I believe you. The title of the 4th book should be "The Traitor". Spottedstar 23:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, thanks Takara! Spottedstar 19:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  4 book is called The Traitor! 

message: That mistake section was very useful, but now I can't find it and I have a mistake. Oh well, I 'll tell the mistake anyway. From Starlight (American hardback)--"'What are horses?' Whitepaw mewed worriedly as she peered through the fence. 'Nothing to worry about,' Tornear from WindClan reassured her, touching the apprentice's shoulder with teh tip of his tail. 'They used to run across our territory sometimes with Twolegs on their backs. WhiteTAIL blinked as if she couldn't quite believe him."68.110.232.148 09:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The mistakes section was deleted.  See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mistakes in Warriors (Book Series).  Metros 12:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Well I wouldn't exactly call it good information, but  was the one who deleted the List of Mistakes article after the articles for deletion debate where about a dozen editors agreed that this page was not appropriate by Wikipedia policies and guidelines.  So while Mailer diablo was the one who actually deleted it, there were many people who called for its deletion and he merely carried it out based on policy and consensus.  Metros 13:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It doesn't matter if I like Warriors or not.  There is no rule that says "only fans may edit this page."  And, no, I wouldn't call it good information because it was original research and inappropriate trivia which is why I nominated it for deletion and about a dozen other editors believed the same thing.  Metros 20:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

text: If you want to appeal the deletion, see deletion review.  Metros 01:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISTAKE SECTION???

message: Okay, who's the one that's posting up all the false info in the "Clans" section of the Warriors article? "Eaglestar", "Emberstar", "RAINBOWSTAR"??? Who are these leaders?! If these leaders really do exist, then what's your source of information? There's NOTHING in the Warriors books that mentions any of this! (takes a deep breath) Okay, sorry, someone please speak up... Spottedstar 23:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bear in mind, I didn't do that, but that's REALLY funny!!  *laughs* OK, I'll clean out the false info if you like.  Spottedstripe 23:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol, thanks! Whoever put that down must really think they know this stuff when clearly they don't. And they did the same thing about a month ago and they said such like "Don't edit this! I know these things!" and I'm like, "Yeah, right..." because seriously! There is NOTHING in the Warriors series that could've led to that! But yeah, thanks! :) Spottedstar 23:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Crowstar, are you saying that Badgerstripe is the one that's putting this up? I'm confused, someone explain to me. Spottedstar 05:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, whew! I don't wanna cause any fights here, so I was just checking. Spottedstar 20:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Information