Template talk:Dutch elections

message: Senate elections in the Netherlands take place within 3 months after the Provincial elections and are indirect in nature: the Provincial representatives choose the senate. This is all governed by the same act (the Elections act) and takes place nationally (in 1 go) every 4 years. I see this template was restricted to direct elections by now, but see in the title no reason for that (this is a "Dutch election" after all), and it also only increases template size by a single (or double on some screens line). I therefore propose to add the Senate elections to the template and would welcome your views. L.tak (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This series of national election templates does not include indirect elections. Hence why Senate elections are not included on , presidential elections are not included on  (except the two direct ones during the Weimar Republic) and Federal Council elections are not included in . All three groups have their own template or are on another one (,  and . Number 57 22:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that is the choice that has been made now, hence my suggestion to change it. When thinking about elections (eg in our elections page of the Netherlands) we always include it, and it is only clear from the template talk page why they are not included. Wouldn't thus it be more intuitive to add them (we can think about making the others consistent later, but I don't know the French and German situation well enough to judge)? L.tak (talk) 00:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe it would be intuitive to do so as they are not elections in which the public have a vote. Adding them would be creep that would be used to justify other non-public elections to other templates like this. Number 57 09:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That distinction however (direct/indirect) is not the intuitive distinction, when you make a template on "elections" (rather than "direct elections"). That is clearly seen from the elections article, but also from the press coverage etc. But thanks for the clarification, and lets see if others way in... L.tak (talk) 01:13, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senate election: Proposal for addition 

message: As stated in my edit summaries, I think the island council elections should be included in the municipal elections line as the islands are municipalities. Having a separate line is unnecessary – we need to keep these templates as small as possible and having an almost entirely empty line for the island council elections isn't an improvement IMO. Aréat, would you care to give a third opinion on this dispute? Cheers, Number 57 17:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't these islands have their own election templates already? With special status. Seem to me they could be treated the same as Aruba and Curaçao. Not that they're the same, I know. The latter are Netherlands constituents parts, but here it essentially lead to the same : they've got their own system and their own election schedule. --Aréat (talk) 21:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you suggesting removing them altogether and just adding the Bonaire/Saba/Sint Eustasius templates to the below section? Number 57 21:40, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Municipal elections