Talk:Wall of Jericho (Neolithic)

message: External link or links have recently been deleted by User:Calton as "horrible Tripod pages which add little information, are full of ads, and fail WP:EL standards." No better external links were substituted. Readers may like to judge these deleted links for themselves, by opening Page history. --Wetman 15:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted external links

message: The word used in the Hebrew is "shofar", I didn't make the hyperlink because that would be original research. Down the road someone could find an authoritative hebrew reader.108.65.0.169 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation of rams' horns

message: Where is this wall (or its ruins) located? The article should mention that. --damiens.rf 16:08, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is this wall located? 

message: This is just to explain in more detail why I edited the section, "Influence on Literature".
The previous title of the section was a misnomer and possibly had POV problems. Some may be put off by the application of the term "literature" to the Bible, and such people would say that the Bible is history. I would have left it, but it is really not needed as the only literature covered in the section is the Bible. "Biblical Account" is much more objective, because the section covers only the account of the destruction of the wall as described in the Bible, and not other literature.
There was some overlinking going on in regards to "Israelites".
I added some new text and new links to pertinent information. Tried to do so objectively, linking biblical Canaan to the specific section of the Canaan page covering its appearance in the Hebrew Bible, among other things.
I also fixed some seemingly awkward wording describing the Battle of Jericho.
I gave the section a main article, because the biblical account of the destruction of the wall of Jericho is the biblical Battle of Jericho. --KnowOnesOnions (talk) 05:24, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of edits 

message: There is a 1500-year discrepancy between the PPNA dates given by specialised archaeologists here, and the dates used by the WP articles on Pre-Pottery Neolithic A, Jericho, the Wall of Jericho and the Tower of Jericho: ≈11,500–10,500 cal B.P. vs. 8000 to 7000 BC. The PNAS article is referring specifically to the PPNA site at Dhra', but Jericho is only a stone throw away, so regional differences can hardly play a part. Or is it connected to calibrated carbon dates vs. what has become common dating standards? Thanks, ArmindenArminden (talk) 19:57, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Concerning the "four stone towers" in the article, I have not seen any evidence to suggest that there were four. I have seen things not explicitly stating that there was only one tower, but implying through language. In "Archaeology In The Holy Land", Kathleen Kenyon states that, "The line of the walls is, however, indicated by a large oblong tower excavated by Professor Garstang, and by a chance cutting made in connection with a military water-point." Kenyon is one of the people most familiar with the site, and if there had been more towers, I believe that she would have said something like, "indicated by large oblong towers" in this passage. I think the "four stone towers" in the article should probably be replaced with "a stone tower". I will go ahead and make this edit now as a separate edit, so if someone wants to revert the edit they can go right ahead. But if there was actually four stone towers, then the evidence should be posted here and we can put it back to four in the article. I just don't like the dubious in there. --KnowOnesOnions (talk) 03:14, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of PPNA wall, tower 

message: To be a defensive wall, it needs to encircle the entire town. To block flash floods (from a wadi? any details anywhere?), it only needs to protect it from the western side, the one facing the Judean Mountains (Jabal Quruntul)). For a wadi you need a dam regulating the water flow (blocking it off completely would hardly work) and retaining walls on both banks, while for protecting from runoff from a wide mountainside, a long wall would be necessary - with either "side flaps" to help the water bypass the settlement, or with regulating channels to let it through in a controlled manner. To form an opinion: has the wall been excavated along its entire length, or has its shape at least been reconstructed by "connecting the dots" between excavation ditches? Does anyone have access to such an excavation plan/map? Thanks, ArmindenArminden (talk) 21:41, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  PPNA wall: Plan? Position on tell?