Talk:Beneath a Steel Sky

message: Very much a like. I played Beneath when it first came out and loved it. Still among my top adventure list. I just got Machinarium and not only does it look very much similar, the atmosphere and everything is very much alike! Every adventure fan def needs to play both! Clearly Beneath has been inspiration for Machinarium devs.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.92.93 (talk) 19:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Machinarium

message: The review quotations here seem like taken off the back of the game box. While I do think this is a remarkably good game, this hardly looks NPOV to me. EldKatt (Talk) 18:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it all. Feel free to disagree, but explain why. EldKatt (Talk) 15:55, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Im cool with it, and I stuck them their, a lot of this could probably go, this was the first article I worked on. :) - UnlimitedAccess 15:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Actually I just took a look. I assumed you had only removed the quotations, I think leaving in how the magazines rated the game at the time is relevant and Encyclopedic. I dont think it's POV to include how the title was recieved upon its release, if anything its historic. It would be POV to include only the possitive scores but these are the main magazines of the era. However you are right that only including possitive quotes from their reviews is indeed POV, but their scores are not. Particarly the removal of the Gallup poll is an odd one. In the UK the poll was one of the main methods of tracking how a game was recieved (back in the day) because exact numbers sold could not be specifically tracked until a few months down the track so they were important to the media and the for publishers. I will put some of it back in and give it another shop, and we can discuss. - UnlimitedAccess 15:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical acclaim 

message: Is there a source for the "comical easter egg" in Broken Sword II? I've searched Yahoo for it and it only gave me this article. Is it real?
: Yeah it's real...  :) - UnlimitedAccess 15:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter egg 

message: The article links to Tony Williams which was a jazz musician - but is he the same guy? Afterall he seems to have lived in California, not in the UK (clem 19:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, 'tis a disambig problem. I have fixed the link. FYI, here's some info on the other Tony: . --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 20:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony Williams 

message: It seems possible that the Austrian black metal band Abigor, referrs to the game in an instrumental from their album named "Invoke The Dark Age" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blashyrk (talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to the game 

message: Although what's written in the story section is good, the storyline in this game is much much more and should be expanded upon. I plan to add to it myself, but I'd like to flag at to encourage other to expand on it too. Amr 02:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story section expansion 

message: Was BASS really released on the Dreamcast, not counting the ScummVM emulator available?  Predatormc 20:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platform 

message: There is a recent edit stating that the subway/underground under Union city proves that Union City is London. Besides being worded as original research, I also thought it was quite well established that BASS took place in Australia. I haven't reverted the edit (yet), but I would like some feedback on this. BeShaMo (talk) 13:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Might I just point out Wikipedia:NOR! I shall continue to mind my own business now... :) Ajp06u (talk) 21:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Hi, and welcome. I would advice you to create an account since that instantly gives you more credibilty. As for the location thing. I would very much like some sources to back it up with (anyone), but I suppose that the Gap could be Australia and that they then transport him all the way to England. I know there are interviews stating that the game takes place in Australia, but do they state that Union city is in Australia as well. I would search myself, but I'm on from work and have limit access. BeShaMo (talk) 11:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I got a limited access too. Could you gimme the link of those interviews? With who were the interviews done, the developers? i'll search some references myself too, the gap may be in Australia, but i'm not really sure as it seems that it is around union city, and i'm certain that union city is on the former city of London, according to an easter egg, and just compare the subway map (in the garden shed nearby mrs Piermont's place) and compare it to the today's London one, or even the one on the wall of the museum station in Broken Sword 2 then you'll automatically see it. The Sidney map doesn't really look like the one in BASS as it is designed vertically. I'll try to get more infos about all this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.101.63.39 (talk) 15:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  My god man, I hope this is cleared up by now. Its clearly Australia, after the fallout between the Euro-American war both continents became unlivable and everyone moved to the remaining locals like Australia. ASIO City is a reference to Australia's Secret Service, Hobart is one of Australias capital cities and what of the presence of Australian Aboriginals living in the Gap, Kangaroo's, Australian Beer and the countless other references. I thought it was beyond silly to even need the developers to come out and state the game was set in Australia. I think the number of references was flogging a dead horse, crazy. If indeed the Train system looks like the London one it would be because they just used it as an art reference since the Developers are based out of England. Please, give it a rest. - UnlimitedAccess (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Edit 

message: I got the impression while playing that the pervasive LINC system is also a dystopian reference to the company involved in the Australian social security system, Centrelink. In the world of BaSS, it has evolved into a cold totalitarian oppressor.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.91.123 (talk) 18:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, CentreLink didnt exist back then. In any case the developers are British they wouldn't of even heard of our welfare program. - 210.18.211.154 (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Linc

message: The Notes section is pretty much an eyesore. Not only is it filled with original research, snippets of highly irrelevant thoughts and unsourced statements, but the entire section goes against the wikipedia style guide. 
Just take a look at this:
"The computer system featured in the game, LINC, may refer to the Laboratory Instrument Computer. However, in the game, LINC means "Logical Inter-Neural Connection"."
Oh yeah? Says who? And more importantly, who cares? This is as unencyclopedic as it gets. 
This seriously needs to be taken care of. This is wikipedia, not some kind of BASS fansite.
Andailus (talk) 12:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes? 

message: Even Revolution Software page (http://revolution.co.uk/sky) does not say it was released for Atari ST. Did it really happen?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.74.53.149 (talk) 07:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No it didn't (cf by Warriner) Gamnos (talk) 13:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atari ST 

message: The major edit of the development section by Khanassassin (revision history October 14, 2012, 13:04) is based on the content and sources of a feature by Game Nastalgia on The Making of Beneath a Steel Sky, as referred to in the external links. Permission was granted to use this text for the Wiki's entry on Steel Sky (under the provision that it would a reference to the original text.Gamnos (talk) 08:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development section 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Before I made edits: "Each conversion of the images to the Amiga resulted in a loss of detail because of the Amiga's limited palette and resolution. According to Revolution in-house artist Adam Tween, it took a couple of days to "touch up" the screens." 
Earlier in the article: "The backgrounds were scanned on a Macintosh as 24-bit, 1000x1000 pixel images with 16 million colors, and then transformed to 8-bit, 320x200 pixel images with 256 colors for the PC version" 
Firstly, this makes no sense, with even the lowest version of Amiga having 4096 colors compared to the 256 colors for the PC version of the game. All Amiga systems can display full-screen animated graphics with 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 (EHB Mode), or 4096 colors (HAM Mode). Models with the AGA chipset (A1200 and A4000) also have non-EHB 64, 128, 256, and 262144 (HAM8 Mode) color modes and a palette expanded from 4096 to 16.8 million colors! The end of the second sentence has a citation to to "17. Slingsby, Dan (March 1993). "Beneath a Steel Sky". CU Amiga. EMAP: 39.
I wondered why there was no web-link, and wondered if there was a simple mix-up with Amiga for another platform. Then I went to Internet Archive to find- https://ia802305.us.archive.org/14/items/CUAmigaIssue039May93/CU_Amiga_Issue_039_May_93.pdf  There is no interview there, not on page 39, which has a very short review of the game, entirely in Dan Singlsby's point of view. In fact this article is referenced three times, as apparent quotes in an interview(s) with designers, and none of them check out. 
It seems obvious someone got frustrated with having to provide citations, and just assigned several to this obscure source. I'm going to remove them, but, this is really poor work. Cuvtixo (talk) 19:53, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  17. Slingsby, Dan (March 1993). "Beneath a Steel Sky". CU Amiga.  Falsified reference!