Talk:Dreamfall: The Longest Journey

message: One of the things I was wondering about for quite some time that I think should be added to the list of unresolved elements is the strange creatures that live underground between Stark and Arcadia.  It seems to me that these could be the remnants of the Tyren who invaded Marcuria, since not much else is said about them besides that they were a barbaric tribe who invaded, and the creatures (especially Grubbers) seem to generally fit that description to me.  The idea may also be supported by saying that perhaps these are just the small amount who decided not to fight or who retreated after the Azadi fought them off, so they lived underground since they had nowhere else to go.  It makes sense that they could have possibly escaped from upper Arcadia to this area (though it is not truly confirmed this area is a part of Arcadia) because when Zoe opens the portal between the two places, it required the melody that these creatures sing to open their doors, so they obviously know how to open it to go back and forth if they desired, as well as the hooded messenger that April follows, who can order them around. This also brings some interesting questions about what link they have to the Chamber of Dreams, since this is in their "area," it seems they may have had some kind of connection to this.  It does seem a little odd, though, that since I believe April was around when the Tyren invaded (correction?) she would have recognized them as such when she went underground, though when you examine their statues in the 4-statue maze puzzle down in the caves, she says something about the statues looking very familiar to a species she saw up on the surface.
One other issue that is odd is how Benrime claims that she didn't see the hooded messenger pass through the Journeyman Inn when April clearly saw him walk through the door, and he would have had to walk right past Benrime since the door to the portal is behind the bar.  Is it possible he cast an invisibility spell of some sort on himself before he walked through?  Is she involved in a deeper, anti-April plot in somehow and was covering up for the guy?  This struck me as really strange but it was never explained.
I was just thinking about adding these to that list, someone else can shorten them and paraphrase if they want to, after more opinions about if they should be added or not are collected. I'm probably going to play through the game again because I feel like there were a few other elements that were left unresolved that I'm forgetting about.Aeugnewtype 00:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The unresolved issue with the Grubbers may indeed be considered notable, however, I don't think they are Tyren, more like distant relatives of Banda (see Na'ane and April's dialogue about them, plus, April has had much more contact with them than with Tyren), like Maerum and Alatien are related to each other. But that explanation could be added, too. However, the thing with the unnoticeable Prophet is very likely explained by his magical powers. AFAIR Benrime wasn't alone in the tavern and unless we assume that everyone inside was part of the conspiracy, as well, I believe it's easier to accept the Prophet's magical invisibility abilities (that are hardly unprecedented in TLJ). --Koveras ☭ 07:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I was thinking about the Prophet's invisibility earlier today. Perhaps the fact that only April seemingly saw him is also part of the plot? I mean, maybe it's one of her other abilities we have yet to know about? ~ Wapiko 06:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is most likely. She is, after all, the only artisan in the games who has been clearly identified as such (although she has yet to develop those dormant abilities of hers). --Koveras ☭ 07:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for plot "holes" 

message: When more plot detail is added to the page, please remember to add the  and  tags appropriately. Burns flipper 11:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler warning 

message: There's a portion of the article that I take issue with. "with 71% of collected reviews giving it at least 8/10 (the passable score for video games)"
That parenthetical statement should be removed. What is or is not a "good score" is something that changes from publication to publication, and in any case I think anybody would argue that 8 is at the very least above "passable".
:It's not such a big deal, things like that should be corrected immediately. :) --Koveras ☭ 17:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review score 

message: Might change the PEGI rating in the article now, as this game gone 16+ now.
:The box art still shows 12+. Is there a (public knowledge, citeable) reason the rating was changed? Seems like something that should go in the article. --Thegooseking (talk) 19:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a note 

message: I noticed that under the Questions raised by the story section, someone has mentioned that Dreamfall may in fact be part of a dilogy, with a future release concluding the story. In this case, wouldn't the series in fact be a trilogy, The Longest Journey being the first part, Dreamfall the second, and the as yet unconfirmed final chapter the third? I know Ragnar Tornquist has said that he plans to finish the story, one way or the other, but whether or not there will be a video game sequel depends partly on how well Dreamfall sells. In either case, I would think that the Longest Journey would still definitely be an integral part of the series, making it a trilogy. RightClickSaveAs 21:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a bit tricky, you see: TLJ was a completely independend and finished work. Dreamfall can also be played independently, but it is unfinished, so there'll probably be "Dreamfall 2" a.k.a. "TLJ3". The tricky part is whether we consider Dreamfall a finished game or a half of the game (say, "TLJ2") with the other half still unpublished. Therefore we must draw a line between The Longest Journey trilogy (TLJ, Dreamfall, Dreamfall II) and the Dreamfall dilogy (Dreamfall, Dreamfall II). I also want to point out that in one of the early interwviews Tornquist mentioned that he had plans for a TLJ sequel and a pequel in his head, so, if Dreamfall dilogy is that sequel, the prequel is yet to be announced. TLJ trilogy may well turn out to be a tetralogy. --Koveras  08:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't mine but the comparison between the Star Wars 4-6 trilogy is IMHO an apt one here. Star Wars 4 was more or less a complete story. Star Wars 5 ended abruptly with lots of unanswered questions although it was still IMHO a complete story in it's own right ala DF. Nil Einne 14:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This comparison has been, in fact, long circulated among the fans and is generally agreed upon as reasonable. :) --Koveras ☭ 15:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dilogy? 

message: What about Helena Chang? Why did she kill Zoe? And I might be wrong, but isn't implied thats shes Zoes mother? Before she kills Zoe she says "You really are a very beautiful girl, so like your father. I never thought I'd see you again"
:This is not a discussion thread, but an encyclopedia. :) If you want to discuss the game, I can advice the official forums. --Koveras  15:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is indeed a strong sugestion that she's zoës mother, this should be inserted in the "Questions raised by the story" section Markornikov 21:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is there no mention in the main page of the White Kin being attacked at the end? There are really three cliff hangers, including this one. 71.29.67.121 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 07:17, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cliffhanger 

message: Does anyone know how long it took to develop Dreamfall? Some sort of development history would be welcome. The Longest Journey was completed in 1999. Unless there were some (financial) difficulties, I can't imagine it took them 6-7 years to develop Dreamfall. More information would be welcome. --Shadowcode 15:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One segment in Ragnar Tørnquist's personal blog reads, "Even if we could, I don’t think we’d want to jump right into a Dreamfall sequel. You want a bit of distance and perspective after three long years in the trenches."  Pending more precise information, the current answer to your question appears to be "about three years." PattonPending 23:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development Time 

message: What sort of game play does it entail, what camera view, etc. --Dark Side of the Moon 00:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Play 

message: While Na'ane says that she plans to go to the ancient ruins underneath Marcuria to investigate the song magic of the strange creatures that live there, no further information is provided about her voyage there, and the next time she appears is when she leads Kian to April's location.
:I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they showed the sequence wheen Na'ane was caught by Kian Nil Einne 14:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, technically, it is the scene where she starts leading him to April. %) --Koveras ☭ 15:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this correct 

message: :The relation between Faith, Helena Chang, and Zoe Castillo is unclear. Helena Chang knew a Castillo once, and seems to have known Zoe for a long time (there are hints throughout the story that she's, in fact, her biological mother). Helena Chang might also be the 'white lady' that Faith refers to at the end of the game. Further, Faith believes that she is Zoe's sister and that might not be so far-fetched, seeing as we do not know anything definite about Zoe's mother.
Unless my memory is failing me, Helena specifically said something about knowing Zoe's father as well at the end (something like "You remind me of your father"). Perhaps this is one of the hints that Helena iz Zoe's mother that we mention but it seems to me that's it compelling enough to mention. Also, shouldn't we mentioned that Zoe's mother supposedly died at some stage when Zoe was young Nil Einne 14:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, at the beginning she only mentions "a Castillo". But she does say that Zoe looks like her father in the very end, when Zoe has gone to sleep. As for the Zoe's mother's death, I think, it has to be included as early as in the character section... --Koveras ☭ 15:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well yes, that's what I said/meant. If she said Zoe looks like her father, she must at least know what he looks like. To me this implies she knew him but it is possible she would know what he looks like without knowing him I guess Nil Einne 20:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helena 

message: Anyone else feel low priority within gaming is unfair? IMHO it deserves at least a mid priority. TLJ is high priority BTW Nil Einne 07:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking through the history, it was originally given mid  but downgraded to low by someone else . I feel like being bold and increasing it myself, but I'm a fan so obviously biased Nil Einne 07:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing that the game has got some awards and spawned huge discussions on internet forums, I've moved the priority back to Mid. It may be not the most prominent game release of 2006, but it's certainly in the top 50. :) --Koveras ☭ 08:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Low priority 

message: How would people feel about making awards its own section and slotting it lower in the article, perhaps near the trivia section?  That's usually how it's done on other pages, isn't it?  And if the awards section is moved then the "Media reception" section would only be about critical response, so how about renaming it something like "critical reception" or something like that?—Vancouver86er 09:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds reasonable. Though the trivia section has to go, anyway, sooner or later. :) Additionally, I don't like the lot of empty white space we currently have to the right of the awards list. Even if we did move the list down, we'd still have the article stretched thin... I therefore propose following: we format the awards list as a table you can see on your right and leave it hanging in the reception section. However, the section itself will be renamed to "Critical reception", as you suggested, and all subheadings be removed. Additionally, the entire section should be moved down beneath the soundtrack, for I feel bad about separating Story/Chara sections and "Questions". :) What do you think? --Koveras ☭ 11:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me just clarify this a bit ... you're suggesting that: (1) the awards section will be kept within the "Media reception" section, which will be renamed "Critical reception," (2) the awards section will be reformatted into a table, and (3) the new "Critical reception" section will be moved lower and will replace the "Trivia" section, which you say will have to go.  Did that get all that right? Other than not being up to speed on the whole trivia, "keep it or lose it" controversy, I've got no problem with your proposals.  By the way, why do you want to get rid of the trivia section?  Don't all long game pages have a trivia section?—Vancouver86er 18:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Me, I have no problem with trivia but according to 1001 criteria of a featured article, no trivia should be allowed. I don't say that it has to go immediately, but be warned that sooner or later some wikinazi's gonna show up and propose our article for deletion because there is a trivia section in it. And trust me, appeals to other game articles with large similar sections will just be ignored - I've seen that far too many times. Oh, and yes, you've got me 100% right. :) Who of us two is gonna do it? --Koveras ☭ 19:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I'll do it ... I'll leave the trivia section alone and let people dilliberate —Vancouver86er 02:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great job and a wise decision. :) --Koveras ☭ 12:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards and Media reception

message: Uhm, the list is really getting out of hand now... I propose following new structure:
 Awards and distinctions
Publisher                     	Won	Runner-Up	Nominated
GameSpot                      	
* Best of E3: Best Adventure Game (2004)
* Best Voice Acting (2006)
* Reader's Choice Best Xbox Game (2006)
* Reader's Choice Best Game No One Played (2006)	         	
* Best of E3: Best Adventure Game (2005)
* Best Xbox Game (2006)
* Best Original Music (2006)
* Best Story (2006)
* Best New Character: Zoë Castillo (2006)
* Best Game No One Played (2006)
GameSpy                       	
* Best of E3: Best Adventure Game (2004)
* April Game of the Month (2006)
* Editor's Choice (2006)
* PC Adventure Game of the Year (2006)
* Xbox Adventure Game of the Year (2006)
* PC Best Music (2006)
* PC Best Story (2006)
* PC Adventure Gamers' Choice (2006)	
* 3rd in Xbox Top 5 Games of the Year (2006)
* 5th in Xbox Gamers' Choice (2006)
* 8th in PC Top 10 Games of the Year (2006)
* 10th in PC Overall Gamers' Choice (2006)	
AdventurePlanet.it            	
* Best 3D Graphics (2006)
* Best Plot (2006)
* Best Audio (2006)
* Best Character: Zoë Castillo (2006)
* Best Third Person Adventure (2006)
* Best Adventure (2006)	
* 2nd in Best Dialogues (2006)
* 3rd in Best Atmosphere (2006)	
Interactive Achievement Awards	   	         	
* Outstanding Achievement in Story  and Character Development (2007)
And so on, then put it to the bottom of the Reception section. I am also thinking about removing the redundant "(2006)" message and instead mentioning somewhere in the vicinity that "all awards from year 2006 unless specifically stated otherwise". Now I expect creative comments. ;) --Koveras ☭ 14:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards, again

message: Is it just me or is many parts of the game connected to (or at least borrowed elements from) the Australian Aboriginal mythology? Things like Alchera, Eingana and Dreamtime are documented on Wikipedia and I've added it in the Trivia section. Does anyone know more about this? --antilivedT | C | G 10:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, in fact, there are many allusions to different mythologies and countries in Dreamfall. See this web-site. --Koveras ☭ 12:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to [[Australian Aboriginal mythology]]? 

message: From the article:
Further when April is underground in the river there can be seen a silhouette of Zoë standing in the river. It is interesting to note that at this time Zoë is standing near Eingana, thus suggesting that the Chamber of Dreams that April enters is also Eingana, just as how in the Longest Journey, Gordan had representations in both worlds.
This may just be a glitch in some releases of the game in certain regions and possibly has nothing to do with the story. There are threads about it here and here --84.9.199.157 11:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silhouette of Zoë 

message: The title seems to be Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, still this page is named simply Dreamfall. Does anyone know what is correct. Also The Longest Journey referes to the original norwegian title (Den Lengste Reisen), why doesn't this do the same (Drømmefall: Den Lengste Reisen). Mamen 11:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dreamfall: The Longest Journey is the full title that indicates that subj is the sequel to TLJ, however, simple Dreamfall is the more commonly used title simply because it's shorter. --Koveras ☭ 11:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I, for one, feel the article should use the full title. I don't feel that the "common" naming convention applies to titles of works, which, in my experience, are generally referred to by their full title for Wiki purposes. Compare, for example, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, or for a video game example, Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie. Admiral Rupert 02:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title: Dreamfall or Dreamfall: The Longest Journey? 

message: The little girl is very similar to the one from Ring movie series... also to Alma from F.E.A.R. game.
Could her character be based on Onryō legend? --sturm 00:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the first time Faith is mentioned in this context and it is certainly not random, however, before we add something as OR, one should first find a review or another article that points out the similarity between Samara, Alma, and Faith (it shouldn't be too much of a problem btw)... Then, we can put this into Cultural references section. :) --Koveras ☭ 07:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  is Faith an [[Onryō]]? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Dreamfall cover.jpg

message: I increased the rating for adventure games back to high priority. While I agree it's lower priority then TLJ and I'm not sure whether TLJ qualifies for top priority, DF is still important enough for high priority. It was one of the most significant and anticipated adventure games in recent years, and one of the few to make much of an impact outside of the (sadly) normally fairly closed world of the more classical adventure games. The nature of the ratings means that there is always going to be variance in the priority within a level. Nil Einne 11:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support Nil Einne in this issue and would like to point out that both TLJ and its "sequel" Dreamfall are among the most significant adventures of their respective times and, thus, both deserve high priority. --Koveras ☭ 11:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Adventure game priority

message: I was thinking: do we really need system requirements in the article? I think they should be available on the official website and in most serious reviews on the net, and whichever data is not there is original research on out part... I mean, featured video game articles never have an extra section for just requirements, at most, a brief summary in the infobox (e.g. Morrowind).
I therefore suggest we move the most basic data to the infobox and delete the section, simultaneously renaming "Soundtrack" to "Music" and moving it one header level up to avoid having just one subsection in a section. --Koveras ☭ 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections 

message: * The correct, full and official name of the game is "Dreamfall: The Longest Journey", not just "Dreamfall".
I suggest that this article together with its talk page is moved to the Dreamfall: The Longest Journey article (which redirects to the Dreamfall article - this one), and then this article would become a redirect to the Dreafall The Longest Journey article. diego_pmc 22:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if other contributors would support this, I suppose it is acceptable. However, we'll need an admin to reset the current history of D:TLJ, before this article can be moved there (due to technical restrictions of MediaWiki). --Koveras ☭ 22:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

text: [offtopic]The adaptation is not that difficult if you join the community already expecting lots of rules to be there. :) Also, if you start small (like making a few contributions to the article or discussing bigger improvements first), other people would be much more eager to tolerate any eventual mistakes you may make and correct you instead of calling you a vandal. Everyone here is human: if you talk things out, you'll surely be understood.[/offtopic] --Koveras ☭ 09:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: You find an admin and tell him. ^^;;; Well, to make things easier for you, there is a specialized project page for such things: see Wikipedia:Requested moves. In the rationale, list your arguments and mention that a (silent) consensus has been reached on the talk page. :) --Koveras ☭ 11:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Change the name of the article

message: Okay, is anyone here in favor of restoring some of the deleted stuff? :) --Koveras ☭ 22:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unencyclopedic information 

message: Why should this page not use this template? The game still has two female protagonists. The template doesn't say: Video games with ONLY female protagonists. Mamen 08:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. :) Would you include every CRPG that gives the player a possibility of choosing PC's gender, too? :) --Koveras ☭ 09:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. However RPGs have more generic characteristics. And there is no doubt that Zoe is the main-"main character", and even April has a much bigger role than Kian.Mamen (talk) 09:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, let's see if the category survives AfD nomination and decide upon this point afterwards. :) In any case, the original TLJ definitely qualifies for it (as April is the only playable character there). --Koveras ☭ 10:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video games with female protagonists 

message: While Dreamfall has some action elements (stealth, fighting) those are in no way a primary focus of the game (naturally, as that would make it an action game), nor does it work hand in hand, on the same level of focus of gameplay, as the adventure gameplay.  The latter would make it an action/adventure, as can be plainly seen in such archetypical action/adventure games like Resident Evil, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, ICO, etc.
While this may seem strange, in that Dreamfall does have those action segments, the segments are not a major point of gameplay, but rather just segments of the game that serve as a break from the adventure gameplay (investigation - which include exploration, interviews of NPCs, logic/environmental puzzles).  There's a break between the main adventure and those side action elements.  
And Dreamfall is not the first adventure game to have action segments.  Kojima's Snatcher had light gun combat in a handful of sections - but it's still an adventure game, not action/adventure.  Similarly, Sega/AM2's Shenmue (by way of Yu Suzuki) was one of the first "direct character control" adventure games, and it too had action gameplay segments (FREE Battles, QTEs).  Same with Quantic Dream's Omikron: The Nomad Soul and Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit.  And even Sierra's Rise of the Dragon had a side scrolling shooting and gallery shooting sections.
In action/adventure games, there's no "break" in one or the other.  Both are at once, and serve each other.  In a game like Dreamfall, there's a definite "shift" between the two, and as one spends most of the time in adventure gameplay mode, the game can be thought of as an adventure game rather than hybrid.Therealspiffyone (talk) 00:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you are making a good point but your argumentation is pure original research. ;) Here is how it is done: GameSpot says " Genre: Adventure ", GameSpy says "Genre: Adventure", IGN says "Genre: Third-Person Adventure". --Koveras ☭ 08:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought I'd leave it up to the "experts" such as yourself to come forth with the "evidence". ;)  All kidding aside, I know I should've gone with links to support my claims...but often those sites get things wrong too.  I mean...have you seen how many different ways GameSpot labels the Metroid series of games (sans Hunters and Pinball).  But, I suppose that's one of the issues with a young medium such as video games: the definitions haven't been universally accepted. As such, original research seems to be the way to go on these things for the time being. Anyway, thanks for the helping hand.Therealspiffyone (talk) 01:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, let me make something clear: there should NOT be ANY original research on Wikipedia. And the main factor defining its content is verifiability, NOT truth. If a verifiable, published source says it's adventure (or action-adventure, or whatever), this is what article should say, too. Anything else is prone to deletion. --Koveras ☭ 05:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: True, and I see your point.  However, my point is that even though those sites you've linked to back up my claim in this case, they are error prone in other cases.  As such, even their verifiability is in question.  Yes, one can link to those sites, but one can link to any number of sources that give wrong info.  That said, I concede the point in regards to wikipedia.  However, I wasn't simply referring ONLY to wikipedia, but history and analysis of the game industry as a whole, which can indeed exist outside of wikipedia.  But the rules are the rules...and don't think I'm being sarcastic.  I truly do appreciate the assist.  Thanks. Therealspiffyone (talk) 23:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, sorry, but when I discuss something on Wikipedia discussion page, I assume that we are talking about the corresponding article. ^^; --Koveras ☭ 08:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's an adventure game, not action/adventure despite the action elements. 

message: I am currently rewriting the article on my sandbox, with the goal to post it into the mainspace when it's done. Feel free to look through it and tell me if there are more things to add. --Koveras ☭ 12:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not quite done with the overhaul yet but since it wasn't going anywhere for a couple of months on my own now, I decided to post it to the mainspace and wait for some wikimagic to happen. ^^ Anyhow, right now there are two issues with the article: the story section is enormous and the gameplay section need expansion. The story can be trimmed by moving the character section to a separate article and the gameplay can be expanded by citing the game handbook that comes with the cases... --Koveras ☭ 10:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul 

message: I think it's about time to think of a general character list for the games... How about List of characters in The Longest Journey series? --Koveras ☭ 13:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character list 

message: Is it just me? The website and all its pages are apparently down or closed. Remove link, perhaps? Whatever happened to it anyway? Spiritaway5177 (talk) 18:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea what happened to it but it's been down for a long time now, so it's imperative that we remove the link... --Koveras ☭ 20:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link to TLJ Wiki 

message: It appears someone has misunderstood what Tornquist was saying. From what I understand and if you read what he's said in the blog carefully Dreamfall is consider part 2 of the TLJ trilogy and Dreamfall next now Dreamfall Chapters is part 3/the final part of the trilogy. This duology/trilogy is often compared to Star Wars 4, 5 and 6 if it helps to understand where 5 & 6 are sort of a duology within the trilogy of 4, 5 and 6 Nil Einne 17:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While you were on it, you could've just deleted the whole paragraph altogether: it's misleading, ambiguous and unreferenced. In other words, unencyclopedic. ^^ --Koveras ☭ 18:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trilogy 

message: There is no official information on the release date at the moment, however, several sites claim, either erroneously or on purpose, to know it. Listing them here:
* GamingTrend: May 1, 2010
Considering that the production of the game has not even started yet, such reports are obviously misleading. --Koveras ☭ 11:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date 

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I have just modified one external link on Dreamfall: The Longest Journey. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071024100420/http://www.funcom.com/wsp/funcom/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&func_id=1209&table=CONTENT to http://www.funcom.com/wsp/funcom/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&func_id=1209&table=CONTENT
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:You know, you could add these directly to the  at the top of this page. They'll be more visible there. ;-) --Koveras ☭ 11:21, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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