Talk:Prometheism

message: This article is excellent but it cites one source for all its information.  Is anyone else worried that this article might be plagiarized?  Can someone please check?
Comatose51 14:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism?

message: Doesn't prometheism date back to romanticism in Poland and the works of Adam Mickiewicz - Polska Chrystusem narodów? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 13:15, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please provide a quotation?  Prometheus belongs to ancient Greek mythology, Christ — to much later Christian tradition.  (Granted, both figures in their own ways showed altruism in behalf of mankind and were tortured for their efforts.)  logologist 15:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I think I have confused it with Polish romantic messianism - see Polish wiki entry. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. I once wrote a short essay on prometheism in Mickiewicz's and Słowacki's works. Though it wasn't as fully developed until Kasprowicz, it has a completely different meaning. In fact, the meaning explained in the article seems much less significant than the basic meaning (see Polish wiki, for instance). Halibutt 11:30, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

text: You might want to set up a disambiguation page:  Polish ethical Prometheism, vs. Polish geopolitical Prometheism.  logologist|Talk 21:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: Is there a subpage to opine on GAC nomination? This is incredible that someone even dares to nominates such stuff for GA but more later when I know where to express myself on this. --Irpen 03:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a pretty good place. Of course, I'd assume you'd have some sources to back up your comments.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  05:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I am afraid first you would have to show some references which are contrary and missing from the current article. I think that Charaszkiewicz works are a pretty good summary of the issue; if you disagree, the burden of proof and showing us references to the contrary is on you.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Piotrus, the article entirely based on a single source is the article about the source (book in this case) and not the phenomenon. This is a standard wikipractice. Check, eg. A Terrible Revenge, being a separate article from Evacuation of East Prussia, and even that being a separate article from the Prussian Holocaust, whith the latter being an article about the term. --Irpen 18:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is referenced mostly on Charaszkiewicz works, but is not about Charaszkiewicz works; the distinction is pretty simple.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it reads like an excerpt from his works, so yes, the distinction is pretty simple: it's about his book. Errabee 01:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a good practice to cite references. Where seems to be the problem ? It would be good to give exact pages of the citations, though. --Lysytalk 05:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it is. And it's also good practice to cite multiple sources. As it is now, almost each paragraph ends with a reference to Charaszkiewicz, giving the impression it is more an excerpt from his book. Errabee 10:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It is not *his* book, take a closer look at the reference. Also, of course more sources are welcome. --Lysytalk 12:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GAC?

message: Hello, I was about to go through the article and then review it for the GA status. However, seeing that you are now about to act on very good suggestions on its improvement, then would you self-remove the GA nomination? Otherwise someone will have to fail the article. Just to add to Grafikm's suggestions, please take a look at the GA criteria as well. Good luck. RelHistBuff 11:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like a sensible proposal. --Ghirla -трёп- 08:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, sensible and reasonable to boot. But not surprisingly, unaddressed. Hope my edit helps move it along. Dr. Dan (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA status

message: There is an interesting piece of art of Prometheus being "tortured" on Mount Caucasus in this article. Is there a source for Doré's supposed painting of this subject matter's taking place on Mt. Caucasus? Dr. Dan (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gustave Moreau.  The illustration's caption gives a link to  Mount Caucasus.  Nihil novi (talk) 20:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Gustave Doré]]

message: Hi there. Is there any room left for this image in the article? This Prometheus monument in Tbilisi, Georgia, was inaugurated by the presidents Lech Kaczyński of Poland and Mikheil Saakashvili of Georgia on November 22, 2007.. Thanks, --KoberTalk 17:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a known explicit connection between this statue and Józef Piłsudski's Prometheist project or its successors?  Nihil novi (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is. That's why Kaczyński was invited to unveil the monument. Saakashvili also emphasized the Georgian involvement in the Prometheist project and mentioned those Georgian officers who served in Piłsudski's military forces.--KoberTalk 05:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd guess it has to be related, why would a Polish president be there? Are there any Polish or Georgian media we can cite that discuss the relationship? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  06:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a quote from the President of Poland official website:
--KoberTalk 06:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Another one from the Tbilisi Municipality website:
 --KoberTalk 06:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

text: That's great. Thanks to you too. --KoberTalk 08:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monument in Tbilisi 

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message: The following is taken from a footnote to this article; I wonder whether it belongs in a main article or disambig page on Prometheism, with the title of this article made more specific:
"In ethics, "Prometheism" is an individual's voluntary subordination of self to the good of a larger social group or even all mankind. This altruistic concept relates to the myth of Prometheus, and denotes rebellion against divine decrees and natural forces, and self-sacrifice for the sake of the general good. In literature, the Promethean stance is exemplified by Kordian in Juliusz Słowacki's Romantic drama Kordian (1834); by Konrad in Part III of Adam Mickiewicz's Forefathers' Eve (Dziady); by Dr. Judym in Stefan Żeromski's Homeless People (Ludzie Bezdomni, 1899); by the Biblical Adam in Jan Kasprowicz's Dies irae (Latin for Day of Wrath); and by Dr. Rieux in Albert Camus's The Plague (1947)."
Good stuff. I imagine it would be tough to separate what constitutes an "-ism" and what is simply a literary exploration of the promethean theme. But as background, something of this may be important enough to pull out of the footnote as a supplement to the mythological allusion. Cynwolfe (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  other forms of "Prometheism" 

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message: On 31 May 2024 a long second paragraph was added by User:Krispe13 to the Wikipedia "Prometheism" article lead:
"According to the information collected by American intelligence, "Prometheus" was created in Turkey by "various Russian and Caucasian peoples, mostly from those countries which had enjoyed independence from 1917-1923". Prometheus had to leave Turkey after Russian-Turkish treaty in 1921 and thus moved to Warsaw. French review "Promethee", published between 1927 and 1940 by Georgian journalist Giorgi Gvazava and edited by Ukrainian politician prof. Oleksander Shulhyn and his son Rostislav, was considered to be the "mouthpiece of the Prometheus organisation in Poland". Other important member of "Prometheus" included Azerbaijan politician Mahammad Amin Rasulzade, Kazakh politician Mirjaqyp Dulatuly (Mir Yakub) and Cafer Saydahmet (member of Crimean National Government) and professor of Ukrainian Free University– Roman Smal-Stocki. "
It is not clear what relation, beyond a similarity of name, the subject matter of this added paragraph bears to the "political project initiated by Józef Piłsudski, a principal statesman of the Second Polish Republic from 1918 to 1935", which is the subject of the "Prometheism" article.  
If the relation, if any, cannot be clarified, the added paragraph should be moved to a more appropriate article and deleted from the "Prometheism" article.
Nihil novi (talk) 13:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to "[[Prometheism]]" article?