Talk:Greater Mongolia

message: The districts of the Mongols during the late Qing Dynasty. This list is mainly based on Menggu youmuji (蒙古遊牧記).
Regions under the direct control
* Chakhar
* Guihua Tümed
* Külün Buyir (Barghu)
Inner Mongolia
* Jirim League
** Khorchin
** Gorlos
** Dörbed
** Jalayid
* Josutu League
** Kharachin
** Tümed
* Juu Uda League
** Aokhan
** Naiman
** Baarin
** Jarud
** Aru Khorchin
** Ongnuud
** Kesigüten
** Khalkha Left Wing
* Sili-yin Ghoul League
** Üjümüchin
** Khuuchid
** Sönid
** Abagha
** Abaghanar
* Ulaan Chab League
** Dörben Küüked
** Muumingghan
** Urad
** Khalkha Right Wing
* Yeke Juu League
** Ordus
Outer Mongolia
* Kerülen Bars Khota League
** Chechen Khan
* Khan Uula League
** Tüsiyetü Khan
* Checherlig League
** Sayin Noyan
* Biidüriye Nuur League
** Jasaghtu Khan
Oirats
** Alashan Oolud
** Ejine Torghuud
** Kokonor (Köke Nuur, Amdo, or Qinghai)
*** Khoshuud Banners
*** Choros Banners
*** Khoyid Banner
*** Torghuud Banners
***Khalkha Banner
* Other four Oirat leagues
Mongols outside the Qing Dynasty
* Buryatia (Buryats)
* Kalmykia (Kalmyks)
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The above was previously present in Mongolia (region). It amounts to administrative trivia from a period when the region of greater Mongolia was entirely under Manchu rule. It is not obvious to me why this information was considered relevant to the article. None of the red links have much chance of ever turning into articles of their own. Almost all of the few blue links are misdirected to other subjects of the respective same names (usually people instead of geographic or administrative entities).
Since Mongolia (region) is about to be turned into a redirect to Greater Mongolia, I'm salvaging the data here, in case someone might eventually find it useful for something. --Latebird 02:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative districts of Mongolia during the Qing Dynasty 

message: *Oppose, the Mongolia article is about the country. "Greater Mongolia" is a good term for this article's usage. 70.51.8.180 07:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge into Mongolia 

message: This needs citations!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuletide (talk • contribs) --Latebird 08:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The talk page, on the other hand, needs signatures (and of course more exclamation marks...) --Latebird 08:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations 

message: Where are the mentions of the Xiongnu, Köktürk, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, Khitan etc.; the history section of this article is really poor!! Yes, Mongolia actually had a history predating the 12th century!134.100.1.177 13:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course the history of the geographic region as such is older. But in an article about a term specifically derived from the Mongols, the time before those actually existed may not be very relevant. The other peoples you mention all have their own articles, after all (or at least they should). --Latebird 19:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  btw why don't we have a map that include the Buryat Republic and other parts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.8.237 (talk) 01:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because nobody managed to make one yet. Are you volunteering? --Latebird (talk) 22:53, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I added this map; it seems the best we have at the moment, but for the purpose of this article, it probably shouldn't have the old Mongol Empire boundary Spettro9 (talk) 01:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Greater Mongolia 

message: This page has been rated Stub-class. Though the article Pan-Mongolism deals primarily about the philosophy of a united Mongol heritage, it incorporates the basis for the projected or hypothetical state of "Greater Mongolia". However, there is no article on the geographic region of "Greater Mongolia" listed here. This page is essentially the stub of an article on the geographic region, with a directive hatnote to Pan-Mongolism.  If an editor is inclined to write a full article on the geographic region, I suggest that information should be expanded here, rather than on a new page. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:Mongols Assessment Commentary 

message: Historical Mongolia as a possible meaning of "Greater Mongolia" was added by an anonymous editor in early 2014. Now I'm wondering, however, how common it is to use "Greater Mongolia" for an entity that includes historical territories such as Golden Horde and Il-Khanat that have retained neither discernible Mongolian populations nor culture. If this usage is not common at all and no sources get presented or linked to this talk page, I would remove it. Obviously, I am talking about English language usage, not about Central Mongolian "ih mongol" which definitely has this third meaning. G Purevdorj (talk) 09:20, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Historical Mongolia" as part of the definition of Greater Mongolia?