Talk:Toilets in Japan/Archive 1

message: This is one of Wikipedia's true gems. I made some small edits for readability, but I couldn't understand what this sentence was saying: 
:"Despite all the cleanliness of the modern toilet, the toilet area is traditionally considered dirty, and while Japanese routinely eat or sleep on the tatami mattress, nobody would do so in a toilet."  
Is it saying that the Japanese will not eat in their toilets??? I would have reworded it, but I don't understand the sentence. 
:I read that to mean that the Japanese will not eat in what Americans euphemistically call "the bathroom"; i.e., the word "toilet" in that senetence refers not to the device, but the room it's housed in. User:Calton
I think the terminology section should come after the historical section (or somewhere near the beginning), instead of near the end. It might help the reader understand the article better.
Do we need the see also links if they have already been mentioned in the article?
Also, for some reason I was expecting a bigger punch at the end. The whole article had a fascinating (and sometimes gross) sense to it, but the end is sort of boring. Of course, this is supposed to be an encyclopedic article, not a magazine one. Dori | Talk 23:36, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
:Glad you liked the article, Dori. The sentence you mentioned originates from me, and you're right, that was improvable. I just expanded and reworded that part. I also moved the terminology section to the front, but I would like to keep the links at the end (personal preference). Maybe we can add footnotes? Also, what kind of punch where you thinking about? Anecdotes? Should we move the cultural aspect (more punch?) after the economical aspect? Do you want something on toilet voyeurism? Or are there any open questions? If so, let me know and I will try my best to improve on the text. Thanks for the readability work -- Chris 73 Talk 02:37, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
::Nah, don't worry about the punch, just some feeling on my part, nothing wrong with the article. Good work! Dori | Talk 02:13, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
Words fail me. This is exactly the sort of page that makes the world wide web wonderful. :-) Adambisset 19:05, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great article 

message: Since this isn't an article I work on and it was a featured one I figured I'd ask first.  In this quote:
Many Japanese women are embarrassed at the thought that someone else can hear them while they are doing their business on the toilet (though one wonders: what else would someone be doing in a restroom?). To cover the sound of bodily functions, many women flushed public toilets continuously while using them, wasting a large amount of water in the process
Why is that paranthetical phrase there? It amused me (another reason I didn't remove it) but should it really be in an article?  I find it amusing that there is more on Japanese toilets than the Hanafi fiqh :)  gren 20:45, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible line removal. 

message: could anyone confirm if theres a toilet capable of running netbsd or any other highly portable opensource unix? thanks :P (i BET its possible)
-dario
:I've not heard of any per-se. However, you may find this article interesting, if you are interested in making an SNMP-managed toilet. -82.1.178.244 03:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  *NIX? 

message: I've replaced "bathroom fixtures" with "sanitary equipment", which is what the Japanese company that manufactures them calls it. I think the mainly American English "bathroom" should be replaced with more "neutral" English if possible to avoid possible confusion. I think using "bathroom" to refer to Japanese toilet rooms is especially inapproriate here as Japanese toilets are always seperate from the "bath".  --Yodakii 18:33, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Another bathroom point. The article states that English (UK and US) uses 'bathroom' as a euphemism for the room with the toilet in. This is untrue, American English certainly does, but British English does not. We say 'toilet' for both the device itself and the room in which it is found and 'bathroom' only if there is a bath (or at least a shower) present. I have edited the article accordingly.GordyB 13:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bathroom 

message: User 149.130.230.138 changed the "his" to "her" for "variety" purposes. If this is allowed, people would be switching between "his", "her", and "his or her" all day. Because all three options are perfectly valid, this should always be left as the author wrote it.
I know some users might want "his or her" to prevent sexism, but many people find this to be very redundant. Keep in mind many European languages default to masculine, and English is a European language. Again, we could argue about this all day. That is why it should always be left alone as the original author wrote it. Unsuspected 10:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting 149.130.230.138's edit