Talk:Kaʻiulani

message: *http://imagesofoldhawaii.com/surfing-in-britain/
*https://documents.pub/document/ancient-hawaiian-surfboards.html (talks about Alaia surfboard)
*https://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/art24050
*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127579/How-Hawaiian-princes-brought-surfing-Yorkshire-1890.html
*http://lalaalaia.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-kaiulani-board.html
*https://www.surfer.com/features/new-exhibit-oldest-surfboards-in-hawaii/ (measurement for the board)
*https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/12/03/features/exhibit-on-surfing-to-open-as-hawaii-rides-wave-of-publicity-around-first-olympic-events/
:*https://www.newspapers.com/clip/64569692/honolulu-star-advertiser/
:*https://www.newspapers.com/clip/64569673/honolulu-star-advertiser/
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:This begs the curious question of what was considered proper surf attire in the 19th century? Even more so among women.  I imagine in Hawaii, it was accepted for boys to wear lavalava loin cloths, and women wore .... what? 19th century expected swim attire of American women was full dresses with stockings in the water. That would not have been practical for the physical balancing required.  I wonder how Kaiulani dressed for surfing?  — Maile  (talk) 22:29, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It likely would have been full-body swimwear since her cousins wore neck-to-knee swimsuits made of wool or cotton in their 1890 surf. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surfing 

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KAVEBEAR (talk) 10:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emma Nakuina, godmother 

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replies: text: I think changing the wording to be more neutral in this case may change the sense of urgency and true emotion of what was actually occurring. I believe the wording to be historically accurate. But what does the source itself impart? Is there that sense of urgency in how the content is written in the original source? If not then perhaps the content should be reviewed. Mark Miller (talk) 04:30, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "proposal" is fine. I don't doubt Cleghorn's emotional investment, but using "pleas" would imply Dole had an emotional stake in the matter which from his memoir doesn't seem so. KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured picture scheduled for POTD 

message: in one of the sentences it says  ka'iulani's niece (through her sister rose). ka'iulani had no siblings. 808Poiboy (talk) 02:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: She had three older paternal half-sister and also a younger half-brother who was born after her death. KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: ooooh.. I didn't know that. my apologies 808Poiboy (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister