Talk:Charlatan

message: I really don't think shyster should be redirecting here. The terms aren't anywhere near synonymous.--Oolong 08:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 'shyster'

message: This article looks like a dictionary entry to me. 193.64.7.9 06:16, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: dicdef

message: I've taken "pejorative" out of the first line of this entry. A charlatan who is an imposter is simply a charlatan. The word may be abused and made into a false pejorative in a libel. The current version reflects normal usage. Imagine the cultural background against which one may not use the "pejorative" word "charlatan." Cult-thinking works like this. As long as the word is being manipulated like this, let's not skootch it out of Wikipedia as a mere Wiktionary entry. Wetman 07:40, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Pejorative"?

message: What exactly is the point of this sentence?
:"If the ascription is false, then "charlatan" is pejorative; if it is true, then the description "charlatan" is not defamation". It contributes nothing to the article...
-Juansmith 17:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Whaaa?=

message: Re  LE CHARLATAN. In 1668 (!) La Fontaine summed up in perfect form all there is to know about charlatans and the way they operate. Readers who have some French are well advised to read his short poem in its original language (Jean de La Fontaine: Fables, livre 6e, fable XIX, Le Charlatan). --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 10:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: An admirable summary

message: The description of Ludwig Bieberbach as a charlatan may not be entirely appropriate.  I am not going to defend someone who said poorly thought out and racially offensive things, but Bieberbach managed to publish some useful work in the area of pure mathematics and his racial outpourings are more like pseudoscience or the work of a crank. Classic charlatans produce work of no value, usually for financial gain or publicity, and this is not the most accurate way of summarizing Bieberbach.  It is understandable that after World War 2 he was considered to be a pariah by most academic institutions, but his work is still influential in mathematics, particularly the Bieberbach conjecture.--Ianmacm 14:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ludwig Bieberbach

message: I removed the reference to Acharya Tanpai Rinpoche for several reasons.  It is not particularly notable, and it is unsourced.  Also, The article is not intended to be a list where people can add the charlatan of their choice.  The term "charlatan" can run into problems with Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy, since it is often seen as derogatory.  Specific criticisms that a person's work is unscientific are acceptable when they are backed up by Wikipedia:Reliable sources, but merely describing someone as a charlatan is probably not within Wikipedia guidelines.--Ianmacm 07:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Acharya Tanpai Rinpoche

message: The Spanish Royal Academy Dictionary says that the spanish word "charlatán" (very similar to english one "charlatan") comes from italian "ciarlatano". this must be the original language, not French, as article says.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.18.154.242 (talk) 17:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  charlatan comes from italian language 

message: This doesn't seem very legit ...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.96.216.107 (talk) 02:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Barack Obama?

message: The modern meaning is applied to persons/organizations using pseudo scientific or technological humbug terminology to gain notoriety or position. They rely on the ignorance of the population. (Editors take note: only individuals can be defamed, and claim for damages.) The majority of political parties are therefore charlatanistic. The field of economics is also charlatanism. Control theory shows that non-linear parameterized systems are not unconditionally controllable, whereas economists claim they can control national economies, such as JM Keynes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.244.143 (talk) 01:44, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Meaning