Talk:The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

message: In the previous discussion above on criticism of the ride's closure, the arguments against including it were that criticism of change was "ordinary" and only "local sources" had covered it. The New York Times now has an article on the controversy; I believe this more than address the concerns over undue coverage. James (talk/contribs) 16:53, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: James, re-read the comments above. We already had two sources that weren't local, so no, that wasn't the main argument against it. The problem is that the negative reaction surrounding changes at major amusement parks is "typical", and in fact this NY Times article you just linked to agrees. It states, "the outcry says something interesting about ... the challenges that Disney faces when making changes (rest assured, some people will yell, and they now have social media as a megaphone)." So while we have an additional article that has mentioned the negative reaction, it actually reinforces the idea that this is not out of the ordinary. It quantifies the negative reaction as insignificant by describing it as "some". Adding it to this article adds little value, and this source doesn't change that perspective in my opinion. --GoneIn60 (talk) 09:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Coverage by the newspaper of record means that this isn't "typical" outcry. In fact, when compared to other Disney park changes, the coverage of this ride closure does appear to be out of the ordinary. Additionally, not including well-sourced critiques of Disney's actions amounts to a NPOV violation, in my opinion. James (talk/contribs) 16:19, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with GoneIn60. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur with GoneIn60. This is not unusual in the theme-park community, and it's really not unusual at all with Disney (witness the brouhaha over Frozen Ever After at Epcot).  --McDoobAU93 15:47, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Yes, this level of outcry is typical. Every single time that Disney Parks announce a change or replacement, social media (particularity twitter and facebook) always explodes with this same level of negativity. Nothing out of the ordinary here compared to past social media outcrys. It's typical Internet business as usual.Wikicontributor12 (talk) 21:41, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York Times 

message: Tower of Teror in DCA is closing tonight, I feel like we should mark it as closed and keep it as that since the attraction barely has a few hours left.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marth The Hero King (talk • contribs) 23:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Park closes at 6am UTC on the 3rd (10pm PST on the 2nd). Show by date template will update it at that time. Elisfkc (talk) 02:20, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

text: In the article text under the closure section, it clearly states The Tower of Terror's final day of operation was January 2, 2017; the ride then closed January 3. There is a source to back this up. If the attraction was still open on the 2nd (which it was) then it did *not* close on the 2nd. The attraction closed on the 3rd. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: ...And here is proof: http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201701/5399/. The attraction's final day of operation was on January 2. It was then closed permanently beginning on the 3rd. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 06:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless the park closed after midnight, if the final day of operation was January 2nd, then it also closed the night of January 2nd. The article you linked to talked about a merchandise even that ended at 1am on the morning of the 2nd. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 14:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

text: But the final day that the ride was open to the public on the 2nd, that is a fact. Private events should not count. The first day that it was actually closed to the public was on the 3rd. I still say that the 3rd is the closing date. It makes the most sense. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 22:27, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Distinctions without difference. If there's a closing ceremony, report if notable. If there's not, report unambiguously either the last day of operation (or "being open for business), or reason for suspecting the closure is not final.--Jerzy•t 08:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:     Oh, it's a template. So anyone with a gripe should go to the template's talk page and contribute to a discussion of how to improve it.--Jerzy•t 08:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closed 

message: There has been some edit warring over the closing date in the infobox. At present it says January 2 (but that needs some punctuation). However, there's a hidden comment, and other edits, that indicate that people think the Jan. 3 is the correct date. We should come to some agreement. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: In the article text under the closure section, it clearly states The Tower of Terror's final day of operation was January 2, 2017; the ride then closed January 3. There is a source to back this up. If the attraction was still open on the 2nd (which it was) then it did *not* close on the 2nd. The attraction closed on the 3rd. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: ...And here is proof: http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201701/5399/. The attraction's final day of operation was on January 2. It was then closed permanently beginning on the 3rd. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 06:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless the park closed after midnight, if the final day of operation was January 2nd, then it also closed the night of January 2nd. The article you linked to talked about a merchandise even that ended at 1am on the morning of the 2nd. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 14:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

text: But the final day that the ride was open to the public on the 2nd, that is a fact. Private events should not count. The first day that it was actually closed to the public was on the 3rd. I still say that the 3rd is the closing date. It makes the most sense. Wikicontributor12 (talk) 22:27, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Distinctions without difference. If there's a closing ceremony, report if notable. If there's not, report unambiguously either the last day of operation (or "being open for business), or reason for suspecting the closure is not final.--Jerzy•t 08:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:     Oh, it's a template. So anyone with a gripe should go to the template's talk page and contribute to a discussion of how to improve it.--Jerzy•t 08:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closing date 

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message: Viacom and CBS are about to make a big merger. The new company will be named ViacomCBS. And it means Disney will have to renegotiate with the new company. So it has to be included otherwise.  --2607:FCC8:6242:B500:D92:9001:F68B:EB2D (talk) 22:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily, it really depends on what the existing contract says. Either way, this isn't something we should speculate on unless there's a source (that discusses the attraction in relation to the merger) that we can cite to. Aoi (青い) (talk) 23:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ViacomCBS merger 

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message: insted of saying what the show in the first part of" the ride" section" insted of having  to read what it's saying, put in some audio.
For example, the ending when it says" a warm welcome back for those of you who made it, send an editer to put in a audio file. 24.146.110.32 (talk) 03:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
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