Talk:Bloody Friday (1972)

message: May I suggest that we try and reach a consensus here before any controversial changes or reverts are made?
(It is rather difficult to track three different project pages and, so far this article's talk page has been little used other than for placing templates and one case of vandalism) W. Frank 23:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Consensus

message: I am a bit of an inclusionist when it comes to categories. The more the merrier unless the categories are grossly misleading. W. Frank 23:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Categorisation

message: Removed, as I can't find a single source that uses the term;
see here. If anyone can reliably source it from more than one source, I'd have no objection to it going back. One Night In Hackney303 13:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ONIH, you were absolutely right to remove this. Belfast Blitz refers to the Luftwaffe's devastating bombing raid on Belfast throughout the night of 15/16 April 1941. I have always heard the 21 July 1972 attacks decribed as Bloody Friday, even shortly after they took place. Belfast Bomb Blitz sounds like a casual, arbitrary title given by a journalist for an article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:18, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Belfast Bomb Blitz

message: "Except for two British soldiers, all 139 victims were civilian" - this may or may not be true. Two soldiers died, but others may have been injured. WP:Verifiability states the burden of evidence is on the editor who adds material, please provide sources to prove this statement before adding it back. Brixton Busters 17:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sentence removed

message: This is redundant. The names and the like are already mentioned inline. There is no need for information to be duplicated. Brixton Busters 22:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Dead" section

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Is the photograph showing a fireman shovelling what little remains there are of a bomb victim into a body bag really necessary for this article? Captainbeecher (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is an iconic image of the day. Doesn't really show blood or other gore in any detail.GiollaUidir (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The photograph in use on the page 

message: There are objections (noted by reverts with cursory edit comments) to the addition of this article to a category regarding massacres. As no discussion has taken place, I would like to request comments on the issue. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 15:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Been discussed before, see Wikipedia:Irish wikipedians' notice board/Archive19. That you think the sky being blue is the same as an unsourced POV label being applied to an event is quite telling. I'm not seeing any argument in favour of inclusion, merely the false assumption that it is up to others to justify why the category shouldn't be added. 2 lines of K303 15:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category addition 

message: Why hasn't this article been translated into Gaelic yet? — A lizard (talk) 03:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you can guess why... --feline1 (talk) 23:47, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations

message: The CAIN website has two different timelines. Timeline A is a news-sheet published by the Northern Ireland Office "in the wake of the bombings". Timeline B is "based on a number of secondary reports and accounts". Although both list most of the same locations, the times are very different...
Timeline A                                         	Timeline B
1410: Smithfield Bus Station                       	1409: Railway footbridge, Windsor Park
1416: Brookvale Hotel [bomb planted by armed men]  	1436: Brookvale Hotel [bomb exploded]
1423: LMS Railway Station, York Road               	1440: Ulster Bank, Limestone Road
1445: Star Taxis garage, Crumlin Road              	1452: Railway station, Botanic Avenue
1448: Bus station, Oxford Street                   	1453: Queen Elizabeth Bridge
1448: Railway station, Great Victoria Street       	1502: Agnes Street
1450: Ulster Bank, Limestone Road                  	1502: Liverpool Bar, Donegall Quay
1450: York Hotel, Botanic Avenue                   	1502: Motorway bridge at Bellevue Arms, Antrim Road
1455: Queen Elizabeth Bridge                       	1503: Railway station, York Street
1457: Liverpool ferry terminus                     	1504: Ormeau Avenue
1457: Gas Department office, Ormeau Avenue         	1505: Eastwood’s garage, Donegall Road
1459: John Irwin’s, Garmoyle Street                	1510: Bus station, Oxford Street
1504: Motorway bridge at Bellevue Arms, Antrim Road	1515: Stewartstown Road
1505: Creighton’s garage, Upper Lisburn Road       	1520: Cavehill Road
1505: Sailsbury Avenue/Hughenden Avenue            	1525: Railway line, near Lisburn Road
1505: Railway bridge, Finaghy Road North           	1525: Star Taxis garage, Crumlin Road
1509: Railway footbridge, Windsor Park             	1530: Northern Ireland Carriers Depot, Grosvenor Road
1512: Eastwood’s garage, Donegall Street           	1530: Sydenham flyover [defused]
1515: Shopping centre, Cavehill Road               	
The current timeline (in the article) seems to be a mixture of both.So... should we use both in full or should we only use one? If so, which one do we choose?~Asarlaí 11:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also that which is described as the "definitive list". 2 lines of K303 15:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline? 

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