Talk:Federal Firearms License

message: "It has been a legal requirement within the United States of America since a 1986 amendment to the Gun Control Act"
:: Say what?  Who wrote this?  Federal Firearms Licenses have been around since the Federal Firearms Act of 1938.  At that time you only needed an FFL to *sell* firearms across state lines.  The modern FFL was created in 1968 when the GCA repealed and replaced the FFA.  What's the FOPA (... in 1986) have to do with any of it? --70.160.160.175 21:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: FFL date

message: Relative to the following:  "Certain automatic weapons have been designated as C&R firearms, and although a C&R FFL can be used to acquire these as well, they are also subject to the controls imposed by the National Firearms Act of 1934."  I believe we need to spell out exactly what the rules are;  i.e., what about the pre-approval of the local law enforcement officer for automatic weapons -- is it required again when a C&R license is held?  (The C&R license has already notified the chief LEO in his area during his C&R application process.)  Likewise, what about the $200 transfer tax;  when is it paid when holding a C&R license?  The details of this C&R section still need some work.  Yaf 23:44, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *What's the advantage of getting this license?  Can't these be sold as ordinary guns too?  --Kalmia 17:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: My understanding is that the big advantage of the C&R license is that you don't have to deal with a local FFL to receive a gun via mailorder. So, you can have a gun directly shipped to you and you aren't at the mercy of the FFL who can charge whatever the hell they want for the transfer. Last time I checked, a transfer was supposed to run $10-$15, but the store can charge whatever the hell they want. Of course, there's the extra hassle of keeping books, being open to "spot checks" by BATFE agents and getting your CLEO's permission to do your collecting... that hassle being the main reason why I never went all the way through with the stupid thing. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 08:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Curio & Relic FFL

message: Could someone define these and what the differences are? Also could someone talk about the other license types besides the C&R?
--Mycroft007 18:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Destructive & Destructive Devices

message: Pursuant to WP:NOPRICES, I would suggest that the price list of fees associated with obtaining the various classes of FFL is unencyclopedic and may merit removal. While this particular information may be an exception and merit inclusion, perhaps if the prices are codified in legislation (such as the transfer taxes codified in the NFA). Any thoughts? —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 08:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, as it's not a sales pitch, but rather a reference, be it one that can change with a passage of a bill. You can even make the argument that because there are governmental fees and taxes, not product prices, this section may not apply. Not to mention, from a practical standpoint, this is a whole lot easier than rooting through government documents for the special occupational taxes. Michael F (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  encyclopedicity of "application fees" section 

message: If anyone can help out on deleting SPAM links, I could use the help.  Thanks. Mateck (talk) 01:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help against SPAM linkes 

message: the commercial link spam has been a constant problem for several years now but lately its been increasing, about time to lock the article up a bit.
I AGREE!  but I dont really know how to do that.  It is only one or two offenders, but it is consistant. I don't know if Wiki has a way of banning certain references to specific domain names.  For example, if you had a prolbem with someome inserting links to www.myproduct.com, you could have that banned from anywhere in Wiki regardless of what article it was being used in, or what user name or IP was doing it.  I don't know if wiki has that, as it gets over my head fast when I look at the anti-spam options.   BUT CERTAINLY SEMI PROTECTION WOULD BE GREAT if anyone knows how to do that. Mateck (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  semi-protect 

message: The latest addition to this article is a link that might be too commercial in nature.  The link is *[http://www...com.  It is for a for profit law firm located in Jacksonville, Fl., and was posted anonymously from an IP address located in Jacksonville, FL.  W
hile the website does have some usefully information, it is also very commercial in nature.  Does anyone have an opinion on this link, and its relation to Wiki's spam link policy? Mateck (talk) 19:14, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it a SPAM link? 

message: Previously, the table at the top and in sections below stated that certain holders "must" register. The placement of this information seemed to concern less with information about FFL and more with highlighting the existance of the fee, in addition to being not 100% correct.
These were moved into a new ITAR section, with a short paragraph capturing these details and identifying the exemptions, with a main article link. As it is now, it simple states the laws without selecting specific FFL types (again, ITAR law is activity-based and regardless of FFL type). - Davandron | Talk 16:54, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITAR Section Creation 

message: It is never clearly stated which government group grants the Licence.  It seems only to be implied by a statement that "ATF will approve the applicant if..."
Also, this article has the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives abbreviated as "ATF", "ATF Bureau", and "BATFE".  Only the "ATF" acronym is explained, in the Related Law Articles, and it is given following the full "Bureau...Explosives"; but the "B" and "E" don't appear in the "ATF" acronym given.
It may be best if someone with better editing skills and knowledge, near the top of the article, makes clear which government group grants the FFL (who I assume is the BATFE), and spells out the acronym, so it makes sense in the rest of the article.  Perhaps something like:
:The FFL is issued by the the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE, commonly known as the "ATF").
This could come after the statement about the enabling legislation.  A citation may be necessary, and the "Bureau...Explosives" text should be a link to that article.
Perhaps the rest of the article should be scrubbed for consistent use of BATFE or ATF.
- 216.249.237.233 (talk) 15:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I made the change you suggested. Felsic2 (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Responsible Government Group and BATFE Acronym 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Reading through the original piece, two instances of the abbreviation FEL appear, when I believe they're supposed to say FFL. Since I'm not very familiar with the content, I'm looking for at least one other person to confirm that my observation is correct, that FEL needs to be FFL, and that correcting them to say FFL is the correct thing to do. One of the references in question follow:
# Type 10 <snip> To manufacture any DD with an explosives content (e.g. flash-bangs) requires an additional FEL[4] (sic) as a Type 20 Manufacturer of High Explosives. 
# The footnote for [4] reads: "ATF: How to Become a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL)". atf.gov. U.S. Department of Justice. 2014. Retrieved July 6, 2014.
Anyone?
D0ugparker (talk) 19:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asking for confirmation of edits before editing