Talk:Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen/Archive 2

message: How about writing something little about the MKAO books, linking then to separate articles. Just take a look at . Some of these books are based on the series and this is where they should be described, but some of them aren't. (83.20.137.19 20:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Current state (83.20.125.44 20:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Books

message: It has been back and forth a few times.  Summary of the last (anonymous) one: If you listen to a transcript when they were on Oprah, Oprah asks Ashley, "so...You're 5'2"..." Ashley says, "yeah, about 5'2"" while Mary-Kate says, "No...I don't even think I'm 5'1""
But among the purported sources, nobody here has given a date for any of them.  FCOL these two were children until recent years, so it isn't surprising that some sources might be out of date.  Do you have any idea either when this Oprah show was filmed or when it was first broadcast? -- Smjg 09:26, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Heights changed yet again

message: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/394741.stm
This article claims that identical twins who split at a point in development between being absolutely identical and being conjoined, can be called "mirror twins" and can for exmaple, write with different hands... —the preceding unsigned comment is by 213.122.77.165 (talk • contribs) 
:They are FRATERNAL twins.  They are fraternal twins who look a lot alike.  If you look at them, they even look different.  You can tell them apart.  One is taller than the other. -Unknown
::To "unknown" : even identical twins aren't exactly the same. I know that it's Mary-Kate & Ashley that claim to be fraternal, but they look too much the same to be so. Fraternal twins are as much similar to each other as non-twin brothers and sisters. I remember reading somewhere (in Wikipedia, I guess, but I'm not sure), that there is something between fraternal and identical, but I would have to look for it, so maybe this is "what" they are, but they sure AREN'T fraternal. (83.20.115.158 15:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they could possibly be fraternal if they came of two egg/sperm pairs that carried almost the same selection of their parents' genes. It's an astronomical chance, but we do live on a planet with billions of people. Noneofyourbusiness 05:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: No.  We should accept the word of the twins unless we have a reliable citation that says otherwise, as in the comment immediately above yours.  --Yamla 16:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Perhaps there are "A number of reliable sources (that are reviewed over)" that make this claim, but none of them are cited in the article. If anyone knows of a reliable source for this claim, please cite it in the article! deckard 12:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

text: We have a source that they are fraternal twins, it's right in the article.  --Yamla 14:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Identical or fraternal twins

message: This was removed. Why? I used to see the show on YTV a lot... it's a real show, they were in it. They were detectives. I'd like it added back. Tyciol 19:25, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disregard. I just looked it up, apparently it's not titled that at all, Adventures of Mary Kate and Ashley was the one I'm thinking of. I could have sworn it was 'Olsen Twins' Mysteries though... ah well. Tyciol 18:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Olsen Twins' Mysteries

message: When they were nearing 17, there were all these things on TV about people wanting them (sexually) and a countdown until legal--that sort of stuff.  Natalie Portman had the timer, but not all the comedians claiming sexual obsession.  When the twins hit 18, it all stopped.  Maybe this could be mentioned.  Also some comedians (I remember Tough Crowd with Colin Quin) they joked that for their own TV show (I think the one after full house they did) only got its ratings from perverts.  DyslexicEditor 04:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabloid stuff / TV jokes 

message: Does anyone have a good source (like an interview or something) for what their heritage is? Wikipedia had "Danish" until recently, but there's no good source for it out there (except second-rate sites that copy Wikipedia). JackO'Lantern 22:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and does anyone have a source for this claim? "Their paternal heritage is Norwegian, their father told the Norwegian newspaper VG. He also said that his maternal heritage is Italian." JackO'Lantern 22:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Danish heritage?

message: Shouldn't there be a good picture of them in this article. They are this popular and i am suprised there isnt a pic. Perhaps one from Full House years and one recent one. There also should be more "SEE ALSO" articles linked here like some shows they starred in. Tut74749 21:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is finding a picture that is not copyrighted or that we can use as fair-use.  --Yamla 21:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Because we are not permitted to use copyrighted images (unless they are used under a fair-use license), which means almost all images of these two women are not allowed to be used by Wikipedia.  Note that the current image is scheduled for deletion in a few days as well due to copyright issues.  --Yamla 14:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about this site? I don't see a disclaimer saying not to use the pictures but then again, I don't exactly know the whole policy.-18:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  All of these are copyrighted.  --Yamla 18:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we can use Publicity_photos? -- JustinWick 02:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  No copyrighted non-free images and this specifically includes promotional images.  See WP:FUC. --Yamla 03:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: See WP:WEASEL regarding making unsourced statements like "Some people believe this..." or "some people felt this way.." etc. Also see WP:OR regarding putting forth opinions or theories without a source upon which to base those. Claiming that most child or teenage actors choose to continue acting rather than going to school needs a source. Statistics or a credibly published article stating this fact.--Crossmr 02:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facts and Weasel words 

message: Any necessity to mention more about their entreprise - or more so how he business side is shaped. Taking about the mary-kate and ashley products may be just an advertisement so I say maybe just to add about the entreprise.--JForget 23:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Business

message: Is there still any secret relation with the german-iranian Prince of Birjand or the jewish actor's son? Has she any cohabitant or is she married now? Did she have any chances to get the prince against other princesses anything? Any disadvantage by former jewish boyfriend who had much power in the US-Show industry? Is she really drug-addicted and was she in medical attendance? Maybe these would be also interesting subjects for Wikipedia? Or not? Only a proposal. Twinfan3 16:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any Partnerships, Relations, Friends? 

message: This article has become a mess over the last month or so.  Among other things:
# At one time, their heights were changed again without any convincing evidence.  The cited sources are CelebHeights   which do absolutely nothing to convince me that the information there is up to date.  The fact that people have recently talked about them being certain heights gives no answer to the question of when the figures really were their heights.  Discussion boards aren't credible sources in any case.  If we're going to reinstate this information, then unless we can find a credible, up-to-date source then I reckon we should state no more than which is the taller of the two, which is the one detail that has stayed more or less the same between the sources.
#  did several mess-making edits, removing the "Who's Who" [sic] section in the process.  I haven't looked in detail to see how much of it's been reverted now.
#  has undertaken to turn this into an article about Mary-Kate and write another version of the article personalised to Ashley.  Neither what he's doing nor how he's doing it makes any sense IMO.
-- Smjg 17:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accumulation of vandalism