Talk:Isle of Man

message: Is the reference to "Mi'raj" someone's idea of a joke?  Aside from its similarity to "mirage", the mi'raj is an Arab mythical creature.  I can't find any reference to it being Manx, aside from this article. --Bibliosporias (talk) 12:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fairies 

message: Re the Name section – does it actually state what the name means? Ellan Vannin = ”Island of Mann”, but what is ”Mann”? ”Man” perhaps..? Hexmaster.se (talk) 11:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, did you read the section?  It is most likely derived from a word for 'mountain', but is at least legendarily also associated with the mythological figure Manannán mac Lir. And we say that pretty clearly.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name, meaning of 

message: sometimes I see Mann in this article and other times Man, I know both are "right" according to the TOP of the article, but which should consistently be applied across the article in copy? Iljhgtn (talk) 02:02, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Then also I see manx, which is the demonym i understand, but that is fine. Man, Mann is all i need clarification on. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's "Mann" by itself, or "Isle of Man", but not "Man" by itself nor "Isle of Mann". And "Manx" is the adjectival form.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: i will comb over the article and see if there are any inconsistencies from the convention you outlined then. Iljhgtn (talk) 10:27, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also Manx Gaelic Mannin, lenited as Vannin, e.g. in Ellan Vannin.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  10:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: cool thanks. also you may want to comment on my question over at Douglas, Isle of Man. I believe it is a city now, and the article should be updated then. Iljhgtn (talk) 11:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Man vs. Mann 

message: I noticed a discrepancy between the Manx flag included within the Wikipedia article and Manx flags elsewhere, such as Britannica and in real-world images. The image on Wikipedia has a gold five-pointed star connected directly to the heel of each boot on the Triskelion. However, in other cases, the five-pointed star is replaced with a twelve pointed star connected somewhat more distantly from the heel of each boot by a support, and in some cases the star is not gold, nor is the support if it is there. I was just wondering if this was an issue with Wikipedia, or if the triskelion's definition is vague to begin with.
Examples of a few variants I found are linked below.
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Man#/media/File:Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Mann.svg 
Wikipedia, real world example: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Loch_Promenade_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1354.jpg (Notice how the stars from Wikipedia are clearly not visible)
Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/topic/flag-of-the-Isle-of-Man
Flag Institute (UK company): https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/isle-of-man-flag/
crwflags: https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/im.html
Manx Wildlife Trust (via Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/ManxWildlifeTrust/photos/a.753661324673851/6319861794720415/?type=3 Cytrusss (talk) 20:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag discrepancy 

message: Manannán mac Lir is a sea deity in Irish mythology often associated with the Isle of Man, where he is said to have ruled as a protective king, enveloping the island in mist to shield it from invaders. The name reflects the island's deep-rooted cultural and mythological heritage, intertwining its historical identity with the legends of Manannán. The Isle of Man itself, located in the Irish Sea between Great Britain and Ireland, has a distinct cultural identity and history, with Manannán's legacy being a significant part of its folklore.
One of the strongest sources that support the connection between Manannán mac Lir and the Isle of Man, and his role in its mythology, would be "The Folklore of the Isle of Man" by A.W. Moore, published in 1891. This work delves into the rich folklore and traditions of the Isle of Man, including its mythological associations with Manannán mac Lir. Moore's comprehensive study provides historical and cultural contexts that illustrate the significance of Manannán in Manx folklore, making it a valuable resource for understanding the mythological heritage of the Isle of Man. See: archive.org/details/folkloreofisleof00moor
Also, the "Dictionary of Celtic Mythology" by James MacKillop (1998) ISBN = 0198804849 offers an authoritative overview of Celtic mythology, including entries on Manannán mac Lir and his connections to the Isle of Man. MacKillop's work is widely recognized for its scholarly accuracy and detailed entries, making it another strong citation for information on Manannán and the Isle of Man's mythological background. sbelknap
Also, "A Mighty Fleet and the King’s Power: the Isle of Man, AD 400 to 1265" (Edinburgh: John Donald, 2023) ISBN: 9781910900802
(talk) 01:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manannán's Isle ''is'' an alternate name for the Isle of Man