Talk:Bosnian Church

message: We could use a bit of an elaboration here regarding the connection with Bogomils. Franjo Rački wrote about this in the 19th century... --Joy [shallot] 10:49, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, do tell us the sources for your correct and officially accepted in terms of history version. --Joy [shallot] 15:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bogomil connection

message: How many followers did the Bosnian Church have? The numbers can be a great answer to things.
:No one knows, since their number had been toyed with in order to promote various political agenda. There is a weak consensus they never constitued the majority. Contemporary Bosniak scholars like Mehmadalija Bojić contend that BC followers constitituted ca. 60% of the 1300-1400s Bosnia and Hum population. This is, as far as I know, the highest percentage put forward to date. Mir Harven 12:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of followers

message: Dammit people, we can quarrel all we want, but not too much is actually known about the Church, and even less about its supposed connections with Islamic conversion. In any case, the Google book search gives some useful results. Here are a few interesting excerpts, so if anyone wants to dig it further, it would be appreciated:
"Being Muslim the Bosnian way: Identity and community in a central Bosnian village - Page 15" by Tone Bringa, Princeton University Press, : 
"Islam and Bosnia: Conflict Resolution and Foreign Policy in Multi-ethnic States - Page 5" by Maya Shatzmiller, 2003
McGill-Queen's Press - MQUP,  
Duja► 13:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced 

message: The separation of Eastern Orthodox Catholicism from the Roman version happened in 1054, not 1079. I will now set this event to its actual date in the Article. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 06:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong date of schism 

message: As Unicode has not encoded Bosančica as a separate script from Cyrillic, the proper way to represent Bosančica characters is using Cyrillic Unicode code points. Unicode encodes characters, not glyphs. Glyphs are encoded with fonts, not with Unicode codepoints, so representing “Црква Босанска” as “Цϸкvɖ Босɖɴскɖ” is technically incorrect. Remember that different people have different fonts which will represent these characters in different ways, and will do it in accordance with Unicode standards, so that the appearance of the word in question should not be represented through nonstandard characters. Using characters such as ancient Greek “sho” simply because they look similar to the script in question is not considered correct Unicode implementation; the proper way to make “Црква Босанска” look correct is to specify a Bosančica font, not to use unrelated codepoints. Vorziblix (talk) 10:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicode representation of Bosančica 

message: The only logic explanation to this are Serbs and Serbian history. I don't believe that they were bogomils. Next thing, stećci obviously doesn't have anything to do with the church. On some of them I can see people dancing kolo or oro as it called in Bulgaria and Macedonia. And if some of you connects the "cross" on it with church you're very wrong. It is so called "Serbian cross" represents the old tree of life 4 firesteels and the spark (liles on the Bosnian and Serbian coat-of-arms even today). It is 4 S letters written in Slavic cyrillic which came from old Scythian symbol for Life which looked like cyrillic letter Z (Ж) ( Жизн - in Slavic means LIFE), also in Sanscrit Surya means Sun, while we Serbs/Bosniaks say for it SUnce; for example descendants of Celts today say Grian for it, while in Serbian - Grijati means - to heat! Serbian is very close to sanskrit. Personally, I do believe that these stećci were all around the Balkans, much-much before the Slavic migrations and that something happened to it. If we can prove that Ottomans really forbid working of Serbian Orthodox Church or this one "Bosnian" in the years when they came to Balkan it becomes explainable what really happened. Bogomils with Bosnian church doesn't have ANYTHING. Nemanja kicked from the state some bogomils, but in those years and a way before he was even born first Serbian realm was established in present day Bosnia, Montenegro, even some Dalmatian lands (Croatia) with only Raška province of present day Serbia, and from there Serbs expanded their territory in the favor of Bulgarian empire which was their first neighbor and which launched many attacks on Serbian main province of Rascia (Raška). One time they almost succeeded in conquering whole Serbian realm, but Croats helped and saved the Serbs and after that whole present day southern Serbia becomes liberated. So, it is a bit strange that catholic ruler Nemanja would kick from his main province of Rascia (Raska) some bogomils to Bosnia or Croatia as they all were part of the same realm, lets say the same kind of people. Why would anyone send "troublemakers" from one province to another, it simply doesn't make any sense?! I really doubt that Bosnian church was any way sectarian! And simply this article is so confusing! 
Maybe explainable through St. Sava?! St. Sava youngest son of Stefan Nemanja and prince of Zahumlje, became a monk. He put end to relligion divisions among the Serbs, as 1/2 were Roman-Catholics and other half Greek-Orthodox after the scism... Constant wars between them were constant because it was the war between Rome and Byzantine. Therefore, his two older brothers were in bloody wars so he came back home from monastery to stop the bloodshed and hatred between the brothers. So, someone should really investigate this a bit more, it really annoys because this whole article doesn't have sense at all! I think this might be some political provocation because it is no political-correct to say Serbian and especially no Orthodox church in the place where Roman-Catholicism were ruling, but you're all forgeting one IMPORTANT FACT - SERBS were baptized, CHRISTENED in 9th century last tribe so 2 centuries BEFORE THE GREAT SCISM and split between these 2 great powers - Roman-Catholics and Byzantine-Orthodox. Obviously we Serbs just picked the name Orthodox because it meant: old-christianity, traditional, simply CHRISTIANITY. PLEASE, INVESTIGATE and PUT THE VALID FACTS!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.71.220 (talk) 07:55, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbs 

message: Thats all the change I made.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.36.130.127 (talk) 18:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Bosancica script in the tittle 

message: The text mentions that the Bosnians used "Slavic language" in liturgy. Which specifically? Slavic is a large and diverse language family. Bosnian would make sense in light of Hval's codex, but might it have been Church Slavonic? Hairy Dude (talk) 00:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually at that time it wasn't that diverse yet. --Joostik (talk) 07:42, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language of liturgy 

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