Talk:Gestalt therapy

message: So is it "Gestalt therapy" or "gestalt therapy"?  I could see arguments in favor of either one (to wit, it's a German loanword, and German nouns are capitalized; on the other hand, "gestalt" serves as an adjective, and non-proper nouns aren't normally capitalized in English anyway).  Thoughts?  --Skoosh 19:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh , I've been translating this and using the small g. I will be capitalizing all Gestalt words. If appropriate please be bold and revert.--Jondel 00:58, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital G versus lowercase G in "Gestalt" 

message: I will be translating/changing fondo (foundation to ground). Pls revert if apprt.--Jondel 00:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: fondo

message: I'm afraid this would be Fritz Perls' word for most of this article . 
He often started his lectures with "Der are three lefles of discussion. Efferyday chicken shit; da usual bullshit; und Real Elephant Shit. Tuday we spread Elephant Shit." 
Lumos3 22:09, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elephant shit 

message: Please feel free to place your own.--Jondel 02:42, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation vocabs

message: Sorry, I appreciate very much the work that people put into translating, but it would be preferable, if it would be a person who has enough knowledge of Gestalt therapy and Gestalt therapy terminology.
The chapter:
"Moral injunctions of Gestalt therapy"
is nonsense - it does not at all represent modern Gestalt therapy.
I can't do much more than giving these critical comments - I am sorry about this - but my English is not good enough for more work on the article.
The German article on Gestalt therapy (Gestalttherapie) in Wikipedia is qite ok.
Friedhelm, Germany, 19. August 2005
P.S. As far as terminology is concerned it might help to look into this article by Gary Yontef:
At the risk of getting snowed with requests: I'm an experienced translator who completed a training program in Gestalttherapie in Eschweiler, Germany at the Institut für humanistische Psychologie.  I'd be glad to help out with some terms. 
-- Ben
--Benbrum (talk) 07:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  knowledge of Gestalt therapy 

message: At best, this needs a lot of cleanup. It's better than nothing, but it makes this all seem much more obscure than it is. Yes, we should undoubtedly look to see if the German-language article makes some of this clearer.
BTW, the phrase coraza caractereológica still needs translation. I have no idea what it might mean. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:39, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
:Possibly coraza ->heart -> core, coraza; coraza caractereológica=>'core characteristics'?--Jondel 00:51, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a lot of cleanup 

message: The following list moved here from the article where it existed for a while but was not taken up. Lumos3 21:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested sections 

message: The opening paragraph now refers to "the experiential ideal of 'Here and Now' (rather than the Rogersian 'Here and Now')". Previously it referred to "the experiential ideal of 'Here and How' (rather than the Rogersian 'Here and Now')". I believe the previous text was correct, since it had stood for a long time, but there is no citation, and I hadn't run across this myself. Can anyone help sort this out? - Jmabel | Talk 04:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Here and Now? How? (Wow.)

message: I believe that a lot of this came from the corresponding Spanish-language article, which at the moment is up for discussion as a possible copyvio of "Gestalt para principiante" by Sergio Sinay y Pablo Blasberg, ed. Era Naciente. 
So do we start over, or what? - Jmabel | Talk 04:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not having received any response, I have reverted to the August 4, 2005 Alex.tan version, which predates bringing in the Spanish-language material. - Jmabel | Talk 19:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: In my experience, the Spanish Wikipedia is very lax with copyright and citation issues. The claim against the article is by someone who knows what he's doing; I don't know why they don't have the policy of suppressing the text while they discuss copyright, and I don't know why they typically take months to deal with the problem, but that's the way it is. It's one of several reasons I've pretty much stopped working there: although there are some excellent articles, overall the standards are too low for my tastes. I've been chewed out there for simply asking for citations. - Jmabel | Talk 18:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I think, in any case, that this short article now is actually an improvement. - Jmabel | Talk 18:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad news, possible copyvio issue 

message: Cut from article "One may notice that there is a strong and interesting resemblance between Gestalt therapy and Buddhist (Buddhism) practices such as vipassana and approaches and Buddhist Depth Psychology." Perhaps one may. One would probably even be correct. But unless one has published and can be cited, this does not belong in the article. - Jmabel | Talk 18:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "One may notice" cut 

message: This was part of the main article since February 2004, but was ignored by every editor. Its best placed here.Lumos3 17:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested sections

message: The content of both the sections History and General description seem to contain paragraphs better suited to the other. Attempting to correct this. Lumos3 15:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections do not correspond to heading 

message: I changed "Fritz Perls" to "Fritz and Laura Perls" and I wrote "the" Perls. This is justified, because Laura Perls contributed a lot of work and discussion to the book. She is indeed mentioned in the first preface of 1944, but then left out.
(Please, can someone check my English in the article-text?)
She says in an interview:
"LP: First there was a manuscript that Fritz had already written, he had been working on it. I had been working on it, too, but at that point I was satisfied to leave the glory to him. In Ego, Hunger and Aggression there are at least two chapters which I wrote completely: the chapters on the dummy complex and the one on insomnia. He gave me credit in the first introduction to Ego, Hunger, and Aggression but that credit was removed when Random House republished it. A friend wrote to Random House requesting that they re-insert the original introduction in any new edition of Ego, Hunger, and Aggression but they refused."
From: Edward Rosenfeld: AN ORAL HISTORY OF GESTALT THERAPY.Part 1. A conversation with Laura Perls
Friedhelm, Germany, 7. Oct. 2006
: Thanx for providing this link - I have just included it on the article page as well as modifying the corresponding paragraph a little. Regards, --Technopat 00:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ego, Hunger and Aggression, Fritz and Laura Perls 

message: Over the years there seem to have been various periods during which the word patient predominated over the term client. The consensus nowadays among therapists (GT and other "genres") as well as psychologists in general, is to use the term client. This is especially apt referring to those psychologies stressing personal growth as opposed to "treating" disorders, and what have you. Feedback, anyone? --Technopat 08:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  reverted pacient (sic) 

message: I have changed the order of some of the paragraphs to make the article more coherent - language-wise - but do not agree with the content of some of this stuff. Can somebody perhaps draw up a ranking of the ten (random figure) most important figures in GT (both versions?), past and present, and limit the article to these? Look forward to seeing some meaningful content here. Thanx. Technopat 08:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  re-arranged paras. 

message: Have deleted the following:
You won't see too much emphasis on Gestalt Therapy in clinical psychology programs in the US, however there are Gestalt institutes all over the world, including Asia and the South Pacific.  
I don't doubt that it is true, but the style is not consistent with Wikipedia. If someone can re-phrase it, I have no objection to it being included somewhere in the text, possibly towards the end of the article. --Technopat 08:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  deleted para. 

message: To Wayunga: concerning empirical research on Gestalt therapy. Studies have been done by the Canadian Prof. Leslie Greenberg. His hompage: *Homepage Website by Leslie Greenberg; see also: *Validating Gestalt. An Interview with Researcher, Writer, and Psychotherapist Leslie Greenberg by Leslie Grennberg and Philip Brownell; in: Gestalt!, 1/1997. Friedhelm, Germany -- 10:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Empirical research on Gestalt therapy 

message: Re the training institutions -- do they really need to make mission statements? I feel it's enough to list them in a paragraph (without their websites) and list some faculty. If no-one objects, I might do that in a few days' time.  Julia Rossi (talk) 09:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mission statements 

message: On what basis were they selected?  DGG ( talk ) 05:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If I cannot figure it out, I'm going to   remove some of the ones that appear from library holdings and other data to be less important.    DGG ( talk ) 04:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: book list

message: The part which discusses the influence of Martin Buber talks about a patient of Buber dying. However, it seems much more likely that this should be a patient of Perls who died. Can someone confirm this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.230.124.194 (talk) 13:12, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Buber is correct.--79.228.43.234 (talk) 13:16, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martin Buber 

message: The article goes on and on about the theory behind gestalt therapy, but after reading the whole article, I am still at a loss for what actually happens in gestalt therapy. The only actual techniques that the article describes is the empty chair technique. What else happens in a gestalt therapy session? —a thing 19:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that you read the chapter "Contemporary theory and practice" again, you might find more answers to your questions. --79.228.21.146 (talk) 13:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  So... what *is* gestalt therapy? 

message: I simply wanted to expand on the Empty Chair Technique section and elaborate more on how this is an emotional process that the patient goes through to relieve themselves of a psychological burden, thus allowing them to move forward.
Samjhaas (talk) 19:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Edits 

message: I removed this citation from the article to the talk page: 
The article cited is based on the incorrect assumption that the focus on awareness in Gestalt therapy has its roots in Zen Buddhism. Quote from the article: "The utmost attention should be drawn first to the fact that Perls actively sought information on Buddhism prior to the birth of Gestalt. Woldt informs us that
'Fritz Perls went to Japan to learn about Zen, (...)"
But the emphasis on awareness can already be found in the first book by Perls "Ego, Hunger and Aggression" (1944) and it is further developed in Perls/Hefferline/Goodman: "Gestalt therapy" (1951) without any reference to Buddhism. Perls went to Japan in the 1960s. --79.228.15.96 (talk) 13:46, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gestalt therapy and Zen, citation 

message: Substituted at 16:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Is clinical psychology and therapy more scientifically backed-up and hence recognized in the medical care system to be paid back? Thy, SvenAERTS (talk) 14:26, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gestalt versus clinical psychology and therapy?