Talk:Paeonia (kingdom)

message: Readers should note that Teucrian and Phrygian are not synonymous, so there was confusion among the two different legendary accounts. The Teucrian version is probably more reliable. 007 08:06, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Paionian language died out completely. Genes from the Paionians passed onto Greeks, Romanized peoples, and probably early Albanians. It is 99.99% certain that the Slavs came too late to get any Paionian genes directly, or any ancient Macedonian genes directly either. Though indirectly, the ancient Macedonian and Paionian genes have passed on even to Slavs, of course. ---007 05:46, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not think we can entirely rule out the possibility that the Paionian language simply continued to be spoken and that its modern descendant is Albanian. (We simply cannot identify with certainty the precise ancestor of Albanian.) If this should not be the case, of course, the Paionians probably simply changed their language and thus became assimilated to one of the other peoples, be it Albanians, Greeks, Vlachs, and later southeastern Slavs or whoever. Florian Blaschke 14:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: Who mentions them as Thracoillyrians? They were Thracians and sometimes seperate as Paeonians.What is the reference for the illyrians?Megistias (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: paionians in Brittanicaok found it.Megistias (talk) 07:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Anything more substantial than a probably in Brittanica?Megistias (talk) 07:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The werent considered Illyrians then. Megistias (talk) 07:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The mix 

message: I am translating parts of this article to da:wiki.
However I can not verify the sources referenced for "Symnon / Symon" and "Nicharchos".
Also Symnon and Symon should have been spelled the same.
 are making reference to Appian III. IV.6 
But again I cannot verify this.
I would appreciate if someone more experienced with the sources could verify.
Thanks IvarT (talk) 07:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symnon / Symon and Nicharchos 

message: We have a big problem with links, impossible chronologies and the misappropriation of exploits concerning the Paeonian kings. 
From Wright (2012):
Agis (died 359/8); Lykkeios (reigned 359/8-C.335); Patraos (reigned c.335-3 1 5); Audoleon (reigned
C.315-284); Ariston (reigned c.284/3); Leon (c.278-250); Dropion (c.250-227).
The main problem seems to be the confusion of "General Ariston" (Ariston of Paeonia), fl c. 330BC, the Paeonian cavalry commander of Alexander the Great and the Ariston who was king of Paeonia in the 280s. The two people are not the same person, but linking and text suggests that they are. The king named Ariston is described as a "royal youth" during Lysimachus' reign. 
Compounding this are claims that Audoleon was the possible son of "General Ariston", which have scholarly citations, in the article Ariston of Paeonia and the claim in the article Audoleon that this king was the father of "General Ariston" (Ariston of Paeonia). As if a man living as late as 284BC could have been the father of someone in his prime in the 330s!!!!
Yes, it is an unholy mess! Urselius (talk) 10:27, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: This and other Wiki pages say the location of Bylazora is modern Veles. The actual site of ancient Bylazora was discovered near the city of Sveti Nikole by Ivan Mikulcic in the 1970s. It was excavated between 2008 and 2013 by the Texas Foundation for Archaeological and Historical Research, which has reported extensively about their work and their discoveries.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.162.178.124 (talk) 09:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bylazora