Talk:BattleTech

message: This is a notification that I have started a discussion on the fate of "History of the BattleTech universe" on its talk page. Scaletail 15:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: BattleTechWiki with 3k articles is quite impressive. I think we should consider closer cooperation, especially as it is also using GFDL and so we are intercompatibile. For starters I'd suggest we create [[Category:External link templates|an external link template] that we could use to mark articles having copies on BattleTechWiki (and I'd hope BTW editors would create a similar one at their place). Feel free to start work on the template at Template:BattleTechWiki.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  01:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering when there'd be a BTwiki. All the other good sci-fi universes had one. But I don't understand what you mean  by an external link template. What does that do? Sorry, I'm still somewhat of a  noob at wikipedia. Also, is there any reason why we can't just cpoy and paste info from WP to the BTwiki? If so, I dont think it would usually be ok the other way around as the BTwiki, while lacking in some areas, other areas have way too much info for WP. It would be fancruft for sure. But I'm on board to help out. AidanPryde 07:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Elink template basically is added to elink section and it automatically generates text along the line: 'this topic is also discussed in BTwiki at this link]' - so we could easily keep the related articles synchronized. And certainly fancruft is offlimits here - but there are many subject that can be discussed well here; for example I see no reasen we should not have good articles on Clan Wolf or Atlas (Battlemech). BTwiki would have (and already has) additional info - for example, Atlas prinatble sheets and players comments about the mech feasibility in game.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Greetings, Nic from Sarna.net/BTWiki here.  One of the main reasons I started BTWiki was to get a wiki where all of the content would be geared towards the BT universe, as Wikipedia won't allow a lot of what you are calling fancruft over here.  Which is great -- both Wikipedia and BTWiki have their purposes.  Wikipedia would be a great avenue to 'prune down' a lot of the content from BTWiki that would be 'rock solid' for Wikipedia, while we can use BTWiki to expand on a lot of the universe (fancruft) that shouldn't go here. Nicjansma 03:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I certainly agree that's a valid solution, and elink templates would help us coordinate that 'rock solid' content. PS. Do consider registering :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm an editor/admin at BTW and I'm for marking those articles as having counterparts at Wiki. I'll standby and wait for the Wiki version of the template, and I'll then adapt it for use at BTW. It appears I have the support of my boss, Nic, in this. --Revanche 17:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi, I am one of the frequent contributors to the Batletech Wiki. As far as the neutrality o the articles and the issue of WP:V the articles are all written from sources that exist in the context of the game itself or the game universe. As the Battletech gaming universe has about twenty five plus years of development and history it has its own rich history that has a large library of sources that can verify the in universe facts about the game as well as a large number of sources that can verify the non fictional information in the game including information concerning the game rules and the history of the game itself. These paterials are available to anyone who has the actual hardcopy books or in some cases, when they have been converted by the publisher, the PDF files as well as the oficially released files for the BattleMech editor program called Heavy Metal Pro. This information has been released by Fanpro, Wizkids, and the defunct FASA Corporation. I hope that the inclusion or the cross refferencing to the BattleTechwiki information will be seriously considered as while it is a niche wiki it is a very rich and detailed gaming universe. I apologize for any typos or errors I have made and I hope that you dont think that I am trying to rant, that is not my intention, but I have a tendancy to get on a roll when I am passionate about something. Thanks --CJKeys 21:31, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I've created a template on BattleTechWiki to link back to here.  I'm looking forward to our cooperation! Nicjansma 03:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I was trying to use the BTWiki template, but found that it has issues linking to pages with a space in the name. I'm no good at the template thing, but I know BTW had the same problem and fixed (ergo I know it's doable). Help? Scaletail 04:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cooperation with BattleTechWiki

message: I did  lot of fixing but most of the info needs being rid of since it could go in the pages of each nation—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Popa01 (talk • contribs) .
"Larger, more influential nations lie in the Deep Periphery." Are you seriously trying to tell me that the Hanseatic League and Nueva Castile are larger and more influential than the Outworlds Alliance, Taurian Concordat, or Magistracy of Canopus? Please. Can we agree that we need to find a better way to introduce the nations of the Deep, then actually introduce them? Scaletail 17:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Periphery

message: Note just puting everything in a paragraph does not help, dont be doing that it realing is not helping out just making more work—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Popa01 (talk • contribs) .
Hey we should put some energyinto the battletech wiki thing and place info that is unwanted on the battletech page there for the time being like the trivia and just have the link go there
I've tacked on a paragraph about the game itself, because 'boardgame/war game' was a little vague.  Makes BT sound like Monopoly with particle weapons.  I also thought a mention should be made of the 'mech building system, which makes the game for me - I'm still bemoaning the fact I missed the opportunity to play a crit-monster I designed off the chassy of a Stalker.  Everyone I know loves tinkering with designs, so that should be in here.
--Sword of Light 20:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleaning the Page

message: "two have fragmented, two have defected". I assume that Clan Wolf is one part of both of those, while Clan Nova Cat is the second defector. Overlooking the oversimplification of Clan Wolf defecting in the interest of space and brevity, which other clan fragmented?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scaletail  (talk • contribs).
:The Fire Mandrills, with their Kindraa system.Skiltao 00:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clans

message: Shouldn't the unseen be both mentioned and pictured here.  I'm thinking the Warhammer on the old box covers, or the Marauder on the cover of 3025?  Any other votes?M.U.D. 22:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unseen

message: Is there one anywhereM.U.D. 21:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by a "lostech page?"Skiltao 07:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Page about lostech, I imagine. Obviously we don't have one. Try creating one on BTwiki.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to wait on the outcome of the Jumpship delete debate before floating a lostech page...BtechWiki might be the place to start with that though...but first I need to finish working on the Inner Sphere pageM.U.D. 17:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think lostech is as notable. I'd suggest adding it to some BTech glossary terms page, and creating a redirect.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  lostech page? 

message: Editors may be interesting in that vote.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jumpship (Battletech)]]

message: The page cannot have two logo-- it makes it look cluttered. Unless somebody can come up with a suitable solution to including the old 20th anniversary logo, I say it goes because there is something newer. Some people may think the old logo looks better, but the new logo is in (for the time being, anyways). --Scaletail 22:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if there was a suitable solution, there's also the problem that the 20th anniversary is over, making the logo twice-outdated. ATimson 07:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has historical value, it's nice, and shows a battlemech in the lead. I say keep.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  05:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree that only the current logo should be at the head.  However, instead of deleting the 20th anniversary logo, I'd suggest moving it down into the overview section, which talks about the history of the game.  (Given that the old logo was in use for so long, having it present somewhere in the article is suitable and adds value.)  Huwmanbeing 14:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds reasonable, but there are already a lot of images, including one in the "Overview" section. Should we get rid of something, or just add it into the section? --Scaletail 17:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally attempted to move the 20th anniversary logo, but it's apparently not transparent (meaning that it covers up text when I try to move it anywhere). Is this fixable, or should it just go? --Scaletail 01:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's three years out of date, and not getting any younger. It should just go. ATimson 01:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Battletech cover patriotsandtyrants.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Battletech cover legendofthejadephoenix.jpg

message: Please see Talk:MechWarrior#RPG.2C_split_and_renaming_proposal and comment.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MechWarrior split and renaming proposal

message: I was suprised looking at :Category:BattleTech publications that we have no list of BattleTech tabletop nor MechWarrior RPG books, only novels...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of work has been done on the CBT books over at BattleTechWiki. I'm trying to add a book a day until I do all the ones I have. If you like what you see, go ahead and import the info over here. Scaletail 17:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Needed: list of gaming books

message: Why was that there???  I took the liberty of deleting it.  If there's some good reason why that was there, please enlighten me, 'cause I'm baffled by that one.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by M.U.D. (talk • contribs).
:Because BattleTech has inspired many computer games like MechWarrior 4. Scaletail 19:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So? The Wikiproject states  that its scope is "all Wikipedia's articles on areas or subjects relating to computing technology". Which is what what I'd expect from the name. What does that have to do with a series of video games, no matter how popular (which have their own Wikiproject)? I could see BattleTech Centers as being in scope, but not this general article. --Rindis 19:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The correct WikiProjects for this article, in addition to the BattleTech itself, are Wikipedia:WikiProject Games and Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Just because there was a battletech video game doesn't mean that computing is central concern for battletech.  The connection is tangential at best.  Please find a more sensible wikiProject to attach to this, preferably the battletech wikiproject.M.U.D. 20:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject Computing???

message: First question, can we find or even make a free one? Second, can we reasonably use fair use ones? Third, technical: I think we need three maps: for pre-Clan period (pre-3049), Clan period (3049-3064), and RotS period (3130). Finding fair use shouldn't be that hard, although it would be nice to have them 1) colored 2) standardized. They would be used in the Geography of the BattleTech universe, an article discussed above into which we could merge quite a few of the articles of dubious notability (also discussed above).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  19:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Map of the BTech universe

message: Shouldn't Comstar have its own article? Word of Blake has one, but Comstar just redirects into the main article for BattleTech. Mleivo (talk) 04:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ComStar.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  05:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comstar?

message: I've started a WikiProject to (hopefully) improve and organize the BattleTech articles
smnc (talk) ,    (UTC) 06:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject

message: Headline says all. Could you please remove the Inner Sphere Wars link and name from wikipedia?
:Be bold. --Scaletail (talk) 00:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISWars has shut down and is for sale 

message: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Wolf, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Jade Falcon. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  18:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gray Death Legion (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Periphery (BattleTech) (2nd nomination) as long as I'm here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I vote angainst this  nominations for deletion for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gray Death Legion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Periphery (BattleTech), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Wolf, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Jade Falcon. There is very little justification for the votes of deletion. Voting for deletion must have all reason stated and must be in seperate sections or sub-secs for each vote. I also checked expect for fine tuning of the mentioned subjects there is no need for deletion instead of trying to delete subjects that that had been around before i even began and that had been years. PLease bring more valid points and all subjects mentioneed are not marked for the most point by any markers stating discrepenscies.Popa01 (talk) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, since Clan Jade Falcon and Clan Wolf were closed to merge, there were significant policy concerns.  Seeing how little is actually sourced, the mergers will be quite simple to accomplish.  I'd rather the people actually interested in these topic merge what they find significant (and source it), but I don't think waiting around is the best way forward.  The justification is quite clear; verification is a policy and thus, there needs to be a reliable source for the statements on the page.  -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles for deletion 

message: I've archived a number of sections here.  The purpose of this talk page is for this article and associated pages, not for planning into a Wikiproject.  If you want a Wikiproject, create one so that people can find it within the Wikiproject system.  -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:TALK]] 

message: I deleted this, because Inner Sphere is currently a disambig - maybe someone wants to add this to the Inner Sphere section. --Cyfal (talk) 20:39, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inner Sphere 

message: You chaps are missing a link and reference to that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_BattleTech_3025 article in the Spin-off Games section.
195.240.131.79 (talk) 07:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin-off Games 

message: The status of Microsoft's ownership of IP is not really covered well and skipped in the FASA->WizKids->Topps transitions. What I've seen, it seems like Microsoft still owns the rights to electronic forms (that is, computer and console games) of BattleTech IP, WizKids/Topps only to the tabletop/cardgames/novels/etc. Anyone care to clarify their part in this? MWLL's page says "sanctioned by Microsoft - who currently (as of 2011) owns the rights to the Mechwarrior video-game franchise" so either that page is wrong or we're missing some info here.
--Enmoku (talk) 04:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microsoft's part in the current IP ownership? 

message: For what it's worth. lol. ... http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vce-scores-changed-over-battle-tech-marauder-confusion-20130208-2e2qn.html
124.168.73.92 (talk) 01:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird appearance 

message: I'd like to link http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page which I believe is the premier resource for BattleTech on the web. In light of Wikipedia:External links policy, which however encourages caution when linking to other wikis, I'd like to ask for comments on this issue. Are there any reasons we should not link to this site? I believe linking to it would be very helpful to the readers. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:30, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we link sarna.net from external links? 

message: Hello all,
I have in my BattleTech collection a product from Nova Game Design, Inc. titled BattleTech Science Fiction Combat Book Game which has six books. There are two web sources that have supporting information of the game. The sites are https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3970/battletech-science-fiction-combat-book-game and http://www.sarna.net/wiki/List_of_BattleTech_products.
I would like to add the information to the BattleTech main page without breaking anything.
Snrdog (talk)Tom R (aka Snrdog)  —Preceding undated comment added 05:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I add information on Nova Game Design, Inc. BattleTech Science Fiction Combat Book Game 

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message: This article makes many many references to a "Star League" without ever defining it. The first mention is in the middle of the "Technology" section: "This advancement reached its zenith during the latter years of the Star League with computing, communications, sensors, power and motor systems, medical sciences and other technologies reaching high levels of refinement." Can someone please add a definition of "Star League", perhaps in the History section?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sypwn (talk • contribs) 11:42, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Star League? 

message: Where in the article should coverage of the Clans and Mercenaries Kickstarter campaigns go? Frohike14 (talk) 00:36, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The history section? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kickstarters