Talk:Luthier

message: I'm surprised there's no history section. It seems like that should be the foundation of an article which is, after all, about the profession/art of a luthier. How it is now it just kind of tells you what a luthier is in the briefest terms then lists a bunch of brand names... Not encyclopedic at all  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.201.251 (talk) 23:29, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You will need to find reliable sources showing that 3D printing is used in string instrument building to a notable extent. That Digital Trends article seems a bit light on details, uncritically reporting Matzaridis's claim that the replica "shares acoustic and tonal similarities with its inspiration." Just plain Bill (talk) 15:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: history

message: This page is innaccurate. It provides a definition that isn't specific enough, and then lists people that only make certain types of stringed instruments as luthiers. Someone who only makes guitars, or who only makes violin family instruments or otherwise are not luthiers. A luthier is a crafstman capable of making any stringed instrument whatsoever. Even pianos, which are not bowed or plucked(Unless you're playing 'Banshee'). The word 'luthier' comes from 'Lute'. The first stringed instrument. Someone who only makes guitars is a guitar maker, not a luthier. A luthier is required to know how to make every stringed instrument, or intend to learn how to be an apprenticing luthier. Phillip and David Petillo are examples, while guitars are their most requested instrument, and they make them for many famous musicians, they are capable of and do infact make stringed instruments of all kinds. They've been requested to do repair work on Napolean's Harp(although that's actually for the marquetry, they're marquetrarians as well) and at the moment have in their shop an upright bass that they are repairing made by Stradivarius's sole apprentice. So this definition and list of luthiers both need to be revised as people who are capable of making all types of stringed instruments. - Uvirith
*Do you have any sources for your assertion that someone who makes only one type of stringed instrument is not a luthier? My Shorter Oxford English Dictionary defines Luthier as "a maker of stringed instruments, spec. of the violin family." Note that Wikipedia is not necessarily concerned with what some people's view is of a correct definition, but with the most common use of a term. I am prepared to be convinced, although it seems that most guitar-makers, violing makers, etc., call themselves luthiers and no one seems to be taking them to task or suingthem for false advertising. Luigizanasi 21:13, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please sign your posts on talk pages even if not logged on. But I agree. A luthier is one with skills in making and/or repairing any sort of string instruments, even (shock horror) electric guitars. Not everyone agrees, of course. The latest Oxford Companion to Music has no article on Leo Fender, and the article on Electric Instruments doesn't mention the guitar. I guess they don't consider it a musical instrument... (;-> Andrewa 10:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: this page is inaccurate

message: I just re-organized the long list of external links, placing maker's sites & sites that sell supplies to luthiers last.  If no one objects, or if no one does it first, I will shortly remove all the maker's sites & supplies links, as they are really just a sort of advertisement and not encyclopedic information. J Lorraine 06:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. J Lorraine 05:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: removing commercial links?

message: Hello, I have been writing an article for the Wiki about the English luthier, John Birch.  It can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulkstadden/article.  I have had to do a lot of correspondence to get the necessary info, but the Wiki has strict rules about original research.  I have posted the email correspondence here, at http://thepaulforum.blogspot.com, but this may not be enough.  All the books I've ever seen give the same information, that he was an English luthier who made guitars for celebrities.  Does anyone have any magazine interviews or any books that give him more than a passing glance?
Thanks, Paulkstadden 04:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: John Birch

message: This article appears to consist primarily of lists.  I'm not sure what to do about that, but it does seem to be a problem. Dfeuer 01:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I mean especially look at guitar section. It looks like a text version of ad pages on some guitar magazine. I have to get back on this soon to see if I can can some how make it a bit more article like. My idea is that I think each section should be more fluid. For example, maybe it can start with a real brief history of that musical instrument (and I mean really really brief. After all, it's about luthiers, not musical instruments themselves), mentioning a few really notable luthiers whose design and construction method really influenced later generation (for example, in guitar section, a short or so paragraph about Torres and then emergence of classical guitar into more main stream stage, mention Segovia and role of Hauser, impact of those two in the guitar scene, and then the baby Hauser generation (meaning how Hauser's design set the standard for contemporary guitar design and influence), all the while mentioning a few who kind of skipped Hauser and directly influenced by Torres design (Romanillos, etc). Perhaps in the last part of that, mention a few notable ones whose design are radically different from traditional construction, like Smallman and his lattice bracing design which sort of became a design and style by itself and has very little relationship to traditional guitar makers. So kind of like integrating the role of luthiers and development of musical instruments into brief, yet concise manner without having to write a full blown page about history of musical instruments. Also lute and guitar section, while I believe they can be separated, I don't think there is any problem having guitar section referring back to luthiers in the lute section if relevant. While they are not the same instrument, in a way it might be even possible to have guitar section pick up from where lute section left off. It's just an idea. Polarrrbear (talk) 10:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, its more than a year and a half down the track and this article still needs a lot of work. Over the weekend, I'll begin with the lede by cleaning up the clumsy writing style. Unfortunately I don't know much about the development of the classical or flamenco guitars, but I can contribute quite a bit about notable luthiers who have contributed to the development of steel stringed instruments. --Zanthorp (talk) 14:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup talk 

message: Luthier is the maker of the instrument. What do we call the maker of the strings? I know there is a word for this but can't find it. Anyone? Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 03:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Maybe, maybe not

message: How would people feel about break out a lot of the lists into an article called List of Luthiers? RJFJR (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest List of luthiers, but otherwise go for it. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal

message: Here. __ Just plain Bill (talk) 21:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lutherie" is used in written English 

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