Talk:Twisted Sister

message: Was'nt TS considered shock rock for a long time?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfinator-x (talk • contribs) 01:49, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Shock Rock?

message: I took out speed metal. If anyone actually things Twisted Sister are speed metal they're retarded. They're barely heavy metal , more like influence of heavy metal. I think Glam should be added because they did have a glam appearence and they helped influenced glam and were popular when glam was becoming popular. Sure they have their own distinct sand but there are a lot of bands labeled glam metal that only loosely fit and have their own sound aswell.
Should have a seperate section for discography listing albums and singles. ViolentGreen 18:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I know its very old but that last comment was stupid. Glam isnt a sound, its an image. If these guys arent glam, glam doesnt exist. Thats like when Lemmy says Motorhead isnt heavy metal, which we all know is not the case--95.146.129.71 (talk) 01:26, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: genres

message: Hello Cyco130 and other Twisted Sister editors. I will undertake the copy edit for this article, if you don't object. I have just reworked the "Pre-MTV period" section as an example. I do not see a need to change the structure of this article--just a few sentence movements or combinations here and there. I will begin in a few days, unless you indicate that you'd rather I did not. --The Phantom Blot 20:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy edit proposal 

message: Twisted Sister is not glam metal they are straight foward heavy metal like Motorhead and Judas Priest, and Dee Snider even said they are not glam. So I think we should stop putting it on the infobox.--Cory pratt 18:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I'm sorry, they're glam metal. Just because it offends you to call them that doesn't mean they're not in the genre.
I mean hell, if they're not glam metal, then who is? Poison? Cinderella? Ratt? You could make the same exact arguments you're making right now for why Twisted Sister isn't glam metal for those bands. Sorry, but glam metal is a recognized sub-genre of heavy metal and if Twisted Sister can't meet the standards of being classified in it, then I don't know what band can and why the sub-genre even exists. Glam metal musically IS straight forward heavy metal. It's just with the addition of the whole 80s glam image and lyric. --Hippie Metalhead (talk) 00:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glam Metal 

message: I was listening to a radio station in Toronto a few weeks ago, and one member of Twisted Sister was on, discussing the Christmas album.
Candidly, he admitted that the chorus of 'We're Not Gonna Take It' is inadvertantly a ripoff of 'Oh Come All Yee Faithful'. As you can see...
:"Oh Come Let us Adore him! Oh Come Let us Adore him! Oh Come Let us Adore him, Christ, the Lord!"
:"We're Not Gonna Take It! No, we Aint Gonna Take It! We're Not Gonna Take It, Anymore!"
Not only do the schemes of the line match up pretty good, but the melody is the same.
Anyway, I think the wikipedia line about performing 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' in the style of 'We're Not Gonna Take It' was pretty funny. JimmmyThePiep 23:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We're Not Gonna Take It/Oh Come All Ye Faithful 

message: The infobox says the band have been active from 1997 to date, but the prose itself (which is pretty dreadful) doesn't mention what happaned in 1997. Indeed, the "Reunion" section starts with the one line paragraph "In 1998, the band recorded a song for the soundtrack of Snider's movie Strangeland.". You really ought to be making a little more of the reunion and telling folks about how it came about (especially folks like me who know nothing about the band; we are supposed to be your target audience.) --kingboyk 00:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could have sworn that A.J. Pero was the drummer when I used to see TS at Speaks in Island Park, Long Island in the late 70's. I also could have sworn that Kenny was Ken Neill-Harrison, not Harrison-Neill. Maybe my elderly gray cells getting grayer...Ten of Swords 23:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reunion 

message: The only TS's offical music vidoes I know are 
"You Can't Stop Rock'n'Roll"
"We're Not Gonna Take It"
"I Wanna Rock"
"The Price"
"Leader Of The Pack"
"Be Chrool To Your Scuel"
"Hot Love"
Others mentioned on a main page seem absolutely unknown to me.
No answer. Deleted other videos. (Nitrofest 09:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Music Videos

message: In case anyone's interested, I've made a template for the band and added it to all people/albums. Midx1004 19:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Band Template

message: I have added several external reference links and was thereby able to find support for some of the article's content.--Libertyguy 18:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External sources and reference links cited. 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ill never grow up.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:LoveIsForSuckersAlbumCover.jpg

message: Just thought that I would point out that there is no imformation present about Twisted Sisters appearance at the Rock and Blues festival in Pentrich, Derbyshire, England in the summer of 2005, and no mention of Eddie Ojeda touring with the rock musical 'Vampires Rock' in England throughout 2007.
144.124.16.33 (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  missing information on band shows/members 

message: "Twisted Sister was formed in December 1972 by guitarist Jay Jay French, and completed its line-up on February 14, 1973, when guitarist Jay Jay French joined a band called Silverstar."
This first line doesn't make sense in light of the rest of the section. It seems Silverstar was formed in 1972, and every other band member left either just before or just after the name change to "Twisted Sister".Ten of Swords (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First section 

message: Can anyone get a better picture, back from the 1980's when they were big? Maybe one of their many promotional pictures because the one at the top now doesn't look too good and doesn't show the whole band. Logger2010 (talk) 02:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better Picture? 

message: "Although most '70s and '80s glam rock bands have gone to sell 40 to 50 million CDs and records, Twisted Sister has only sold a little over 11 million."
This is a very strange and vague factoid.  "Most" glam rock bands??  Which ones are we talking about?  It is my guess that --as in every other genre of music at every time in history-- MOST of the (possibly hundreds of) glam rock bands of this era achieved only local successes, local recognition at best, made no significant money, got no recording contracts, and faded even in the memories of their audiences.  It is only a VERY small handful of bands that ever have that level of success.  So....which glam bands sold that much?  David Bowie?  T Rex?  Gary Glitter?  Maybe the sentence should read "most famous 70's and 80's glam bands," but even that seems odd and insufficient.
There is also an almost POV quality to the structuring of this, as if the author is demeaning Twister Sister's achievement by setting it against the achievements of unnamed others.  Furthermore, there seems to be debate as to whether Twister Sister is even a "glam band."
Understand, I am not trying to defend Twisted Sister.  Actually, I don't care about the band or know if any of the statements on this page are true.   (I don't even know how many records they have sold, and the source of this statistic should be cited.)  Nonetheless, this sentence seems odd....I am going to change it.  
Sentence seems to have been added on this revision:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twisted_Sister&diff=265968178&oldid=265694735
Sojambi Pinola (talk) 20:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most '70s & '80s glam rock bands have gone to sell 40 to 50 million? 

message: A couple of years ago, while playing to 80,000 fans in Quebec after not playing there since 1984, it struck me just how important our album Stay Hungry had become. It broke sales records in 8 countries and the videos made us international stars. Canada especially had gone crazy for the album and bought it at a much greater proportional rate against US sales then any album in recent memory. 
We had just released our re-recorded version of it called Still Hungry. While talking to our fans in Canada, it struck me how many still preferred the original Stay Hungry. Maybe, as band members, we were just too close to the whole thing. Maybe we just weren’t seeing it and, more importantly, hearing it through the eyes of the fans who had spent the last 23 years with their ears tuned in to the sound of the original record. I knew that in two years a milestone was approaching. In May of 2009 The 25th anniversary of Stay Hungry would arrive. I started to think of a way to recognize and celebrate the music and the times which had become so important to the lives of not only our millions of fans around the world, but also to acknowledge the importance and relevance of all of the music created by the hard rock bands of that period. What became obvious to me was that just re-mastering the original record was not a reason to re-release it. The only way this could be ‘special’ was to locate any material that was recorded by us at the time and never released so as to make a truly great 2 disc package. 
Much to the band's surprise, Atlantic/Rhino discovered a series of cassettes that comprised almost a whole extra albums worth of material. This original music was part of the ‘demo’ process used in making Stay Hungry. These tapes were recorded in December 1983 at Nino’s studios in Baldwin, LI along with all the songs that wound up on the finished album. I completely forgot that these tapes ever existed. The band barely remembered these songs ever being recorded. Most of the songs, upon fresh listening are shockingly good. Remember, these are demo’s which means that they are unfinished versions of songs. Maybe some day we will actually fully finish and record some of them if you, the fans, yell loudly enough. Don’t ask me why some didn’t make the record, the politics of that question are too deep to get into. Suffice it to say, we are proud of this material and, to make the re-release really special, we also recorded our first new song in 10 years - a song called 30. 
Lastly, I want to thank Donna (the Mayor), SMF Cyndi and Pat Egan. They are long time fans well known to the Slamboard. They came to my house and spent an evening listening to and sifting through a lot of material. Their help, advice and enthusiasm were crucial in giving me the insight as to how to proceed with this project. THANKS GUYS!! 
A Re-Mastered Stay Hungry
10 Never Heard Before Songs Originally Demo’d For Stay Hungry
5 Early Demos Of Songs From Stay Hungry
1 Brand New Song
1 Rare Radio Spot Using 'SMF' As The Music Bed 
That is a reason to celebrate an important milestone. 
The release date is Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009. 
We hope you love this package as much as we do. 
-Jay Jay French  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.215 (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  25th Anniversary of STAY HUNGRY 

message: This is true, that the name was supposed to be "this".  However, two problems.  One is that it is in the lead and not in the article at all.  The lead is supposed to be an introduction.  The second problem is that there is not a reference to this.  I know this sucks and even I know Twisted Sister was originally proposed to be called "This" but you and I are not considered reliable sources. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 22:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "This" 

message: Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" ranked #21 on VH1's "100 Greatest One-Hit Wonders of the 80's", but my dad says they can't be a one-hit wonder because "I Wanna Rock" was big. So please explain whether they were a one-hit wonder or not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.191.194 (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they weren't a one-hit wonder because they indeed had two notable hits. But most folks only remember the one, so they kinda WERE a 1HW. You decide!Vonbontee (talk) 09:37, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: One-hit Wonder?

message: Club Daze Volume I The Studio Sessions says live in brackets after it which it clearly is not live, and the lastest album Live At The Astoria is missing from the albums section it is a CD/DVD combo. I refuse to edit wiki pages as it will undoubtedly be reverted by a wiki-nazi, so I leave the editing up to them. -- Just a proud S.M.F.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.210.50.123 (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors/missing albums 

message: Earlier, I had changed a reference to an AC/DC tribute. The original revision said that they covered "Sin City". Not sure which tribute album this is talking about, but as seen on this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt:_A_Tribute_to_AC/DC, Dee did a cover of "Walk All Over You" not "Sin City". Lately, my revision has been changed back to "Sin City". Can someone back their claim up otherwise change it back to mine?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BRoc91 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC/DC tribute 

message: Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down is not a Twisted Sister album but a Dee Snider solo album, consisting of old Twisted Sister songs that didn't make it onto the albums. Encyclopaedia Metallum: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Dee_Snider/17682#band_tab_discography  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thyglakk (talk • contribs) 11:44, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down 

message: How is Twisted Sister glam metal? Sure they look glam. Well at least in the 80s, cause Dee Snider doesn't have that blue makeup and blushes anymore. But that has NOTHING to do with the music. Besides, being catchy doesn't make you glam cause then you're saying that Enter Sandman by Metallica is glam. Same applies to Bottoms Up by Nickelback, which is considered heavy metal, even though they're mostly hard rock or alternative/post-grunge. Glam is all about having you know, pop rock vocals, catchy pop influenced choruses and often has catchy riffs or solos. But catchy pop influences and vocals and choruses are MOST IMPORTANT in glam metal! Besides, they said in an interview with Dee Snider leading it that they ARE NOT glam metal, they said they only have seen themselves as a heavy metal band. Besides, even glam metal has to have a friendly audience to lots of women who act like 80s women. Twisted Sister mostly has a fanbase of people who dress like 70s metal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.214.78 (talk) 00:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  TWISTED SISTER IS NOT GLAM METAL!!! HERE IS THE PROOF AND THEIR REAL GENRE! 

message: I'm taking off hard rock, there aren't any sources.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 01:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Twisted_Sister/4975  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 01:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for metal? 

message: They ain't glam metal. They're heavy metal. Glam metal was a subgenre with glamorously heavy metal vocals, distorted electric guitars, friendly tone, glamorous/friendly lyrics and features shredding solos and can be very catchy. Eg: Poison, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, etc. How are Twisted Sister even glam metal? They have stronger vocals, and their lyrics and themes are rebellious and sometimes violent, that's not glamorous. They also sound angry in some songs. Glam is short for Glamorous. Besides, even Ronnie James Dio, Metallica and Rob Halford reject that label for the band. The band even rejects the label. Big hair doesn't make you glam. It ain't no fashion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.28.140.11 (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glam metal? 

message: Who designed their logo? AmericanLeMans (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The last sentence of that paragraph doesn't seem right:
"Micheal Valentine took over the lead singer role, guitarist Billy Diamond, drummer Mell Star, bass player Kenneth Harrison Neill, and Johnny Heartbreaker (soon to change his name to Jay Jay French)."
Especially because it doesn't explain where "Johnny Heartbreaker" comes from.
Sjmsteffann (talk) 22:39, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: My confusion as well. Jay Jay French says his birth name was John Segall, and there is no "heartbreaker" on that page. 50.203.248.82 (talk) 10:52, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird sentence in first paragraph of "History of Twisted Sister (1972–1976)" 

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message: Twisted Sister made glam metal music for example:
Bad Boys (Of Rock'n'Roll)
I Am (I'm Me)
The Price
I Belive in You
The whole Love Is For Suckers record  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:238:F014:85B:4491:F7E6:E1CE:1B6B (talk) 21:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  They are Glam Metal 

message: I am ROFL at all the argument about whether or not TS are glam or not! Well compared to a 'classic' glam rock band like The Sweet they aren't very glamorous (let's face it, if Dee Dee fired a gun like he wields a lipstick he couldn't hit a barn door...) But isn't it a little bit mad that this page is one long argument about their image when the actual article skirts around the subject and doesn't even detail what their image is! Stub Mandrel (talk) 22:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article doesn't actually say what TS's image is! 

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