Talk:Permanent makeup

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Sbowers3 (talk) 02:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: I'm a bit concerned by both the neutrality and sourcing (or lack thereof) that appears here. For example, there is a "results" section which purports to list outcomes, but does not cite where it came from. Especially for data which appears empirical, it is critical to be able to see who compiled it and how. There also seem to be some health concerns cited regarding tattooing, but those receive quite short mention, despite being sourceable to the FDA, hardly a fringe or unreliable organization. Some sections are going to need outright removal if they cannot be sourced. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The main concern is the unsourced "results" section, right now. "Common knowledge" doesn't do it for evidence presented as empirical, someone needs to have actually studied the matter using empirical methods, and we need to cite it so those reading can see who compiled the results and how. The other bit isn't as big of a deal, since a more expanded article regarding the health issues is linked to, so that's a more minor thing. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How empirically can one study what is essentially an art form, really?  I see where you are going with this and I will give it some thought and research but it may not be at the level you are expecting.  This industry is very, very young.Tatt bratt (talk) 16:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if the results haven't been studied and can't be properly sourced, we shouldn't have a section labeled "results". "Common knowledge in the industry" is not verifiable. If someone does eventually study it, it always can come back later with a proper source. As to empirical studies, they are routinely done with cosmetic surgery, using many techniques and metrics with a random sampling of patients by a neutral organization (was the patient happy with the procedure a year later? Was there any visible scarring? Any complications? Any need for further procedures to correct deficiencies from the first one?) Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: While some of your changes to the paragraph made it read better, I am not in favor of this part: Exclusive to Australia, practitioners are prohibited from advertising the procedures as "permanent" since, "…benefits of cosmetic tattooing are not permanent and will generally only last three to five years."[2] I think it was better left alone simply because this is not true about the results of permanent makeup - they last indefinitely.  There is a lot of poor training and equipment and people get less than desirable results. For instance, my own permanent eyeliner is nearly 20 years old and has not ever been touched up.  Some procedures need refreshing of color but that is the same with any kind of tattooing and tattooing by definition is certainly permanent.  I put in that link as a compromise to someone who I was pretty much engaged in an edit war because she was insistent on including this legislation, albeit greatly flawed. Please change that part back. I have no problem with moving Regulations. Tatt bratt (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality/sourcing

message: Article needs some information on the type of training that a Cosmetic Tattooist can/does undertake, this is of benefit to both public and to those considering a career in the field. There is limited information online particularly in regards to the detail of training syllabus. A couple of links are provided as examples.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.94.220 (talk) 09:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Links are not information. Links to commercial services are spam, and is not allowed. --OpenFuture (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Spam and personal attacks are not allowed on Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:policy before continuing to edit Wikipedia. The societies you gove above all claim to be non-profit organisations, for professionals in the industry. That is a very big difference compared to somebody who sells courses. Your links are spam. Spam is not allowed. This is not complicated. --OpenFuture (talk) 08:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

text: The links you added were spam. Spam is not allowed. This is not my opinion, but Wikipedia policy. See WP:SPAM.  --OpenFuture (talk) 08:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: The five most recent edits (by the same accout) have added a few issues to the article. 
Some of the new content towards the beginning is more of a how-to. The editor seems to be a professional (use google to see for yourself) and did not add any advertisement links or similar, but write about the location they work for. It seems to be quite important to the article though (like most of the added content) and I'm assuming good faith, but a review by an expert on the matter would be nice. Also give the author some time, they've just started recently and might do another edit. 
Since there's still the advertisement issue tagged, the article needs a good quality review in any case. Se'taan (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone and quality of recent edits; conflict of interests? 

message: My contribution to scalp pigmentation  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenfryer86 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scalp Pigmentation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello, I'm working on a project for my college course that is requiring me to edit/update a wikipedia page. There's a learning curve as well as community efforts to keep the page focused on the topic. I understand if anything needs to be removed. I'm certified in permanent makeup, but will try to provide reputable sources that do not link to places that provide services. Just touching base here in the talk page so there isn't confusion on if i'm trying to spam or be blocked. Aratth2 (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please have a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources to get an idea about sourcing requirements on Wikipedia. Your edits are being reverted because the citations do not meet that standard. MrOllie (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I am going through the link provided to find more reliable sources. However Permanent Makeup: All About the Process, Results, Safety, and Cost (greatist.com) -- used interviews from licensed dermatologist as well as some sourced information from Tattoos & Permanent Makeup: Fact Sheet | FDA. does this source still not meet the standard? Aratth2 (talk) 18:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits and changes 

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