Talk:Kane (wrestler)/Archive 2

message: Would it be possible to get one where the person taking it doesn't have their finger over the lens? Tromboneguy0186 06:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the current picture is sub-par. The old picture we had up for Kane was far better. Cosmic Larva 07:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A month late but what the hell ... it's actually a lady's head from the original photo. --Oakster (Talk) 22:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Please don't add rumors and speculation to this article unless you are citing legitimate sources.
i dont know but to me it seemed kane was legitametly hurt in the attack by umaga...it look as if umaga muffed that samona spike and really hit his throat. any on know specics? 24.128.202.124 00:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that too when I first saw t, but I honestly don't think Umaga would have intentionally kicked him again if he saw his coleauge spitting up real blood on the mat. It's possible I suppose, it did look VERY realistic. Cosmic Larva 05:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It means the last time he was actually on the SmackDown! roster, not the last time he appeared. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  01:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Activity 

message: Is it called chokeslam from hell or just chokeslam?
:It's the chokeslam.  Jim Ross sometimes calls it a "chokeslam from hell" when he delivers a particularly high impact chokeslam, such as driving someone completely through the ring matt as he has done in the past. Manssiere 14:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and we should take "The Undertaker... has a nice.... The Last Ride!" as how Taz says it because clearly, that's how he says it in on of the earlier Smackdown games. 4, I believe. Every time I hear J.R. call it more than just "By Gawd, chokeslam from Kane." He says "By Gawd, Kane just chokeslammed <insert opponent> straight to hell!" -Darryl Hamlin 16:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the discussion is somewhat over, but while the WWE video games can be a nice source of names for some manoeuvres, they aren't all official.  Plus, in the PS2's WWE games, Kane's chokeslam is just 'Chokeslam X', with X being wherever it fell in whatever sequence they used.  The games also sometimes take liberties with moves outside WWE, such as the 'Landing Pin' for the Styles Clash, or '99 Crusher' for the Ki Krusher (both out of Smackdown:  Here Comes the Pain).  Games can't be taken as WWE canon. IL-Kuma 03:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chokeslam

message: Since when has it been known that Glen Jacobs was born on November 10, 1070? Everything I have ever read has said something like April 7, 1967.
Sounds about right. Otherwise, he certainly is in good condition for a 936 year old.
He was born on the 26th of April. The year is disputed between 1967 and 1968.,  (bottom of page), ,  -- THL 06:26, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of Birth

message: Shouldn't there be a picture of Kane with his mask on? I mean its what he was known for, and was a huge part of his career. --Mikedk9109 19:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Masked Picture

message: Question, if there are no dependable references as to whether Glen Jacobs did in fact portray the Black Knight, should it really be listed as one of his ring names? I'm personally of the persuasion that the Black Knight was portrayed by Jeff Gaylord and not Glen Jacobs. Kalfu
:As am I. All you have to do is watch the match, the Black Knight is deffo not Kane, he is way too small.Halbared 09:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just where exactly does the WWE credit Jacobs as the Black Knight???? People who have first hand knowledge of the event insist that the Black Knight was Jeff Gaylord, along with the Brooklyn Brawler and Greg Valentine as the other knights. I have yet to see a credible source that claims Jacobs as the Black Knight. Jacobs himself hasn't that I'm aware of. Plus I would add Jacobs wasn't "discovered" by the WWE/F until 1995 while working with SMW. In 1993 Jacobs would have been a green rookie learning the ropes, I sincerely doubt the WWE/F even knew who he was at the time of the 1993 Survivor Series PPV.  —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]Misinformation 22:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Black Knight 

message: I heard from somewhere that his appearance after he took off his mask was based on Syd Barrett's appearance after he shaved all of his hair. They do look very similar. Think this is worth mentioning? --XXXtylerXXX 20:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You will need a reliable source if you want to add that otherwise it will be removed quickly. --67.71.78.201 05:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Are you trying to say that Jacobs always had short hair and therefore always wore a wig while portraying the character? Because if you are that is absolute rubbish. Jacobs had long hair right up until the night he unmasked, at which point they shaved half his head and attached a wig to his mask. This is the only time Kane ever wore a wig. This has been confirmed in interviews with both Jacobs himself and Bill Moody (Paul Bearer aka Percy Pringle). Also there were several times in the past where Kane was unmasked on tv eg by the Undertaker and his hair was long and did not come off with the mask. -- Kalfu
That is true.  Glenn has always had long hair.  Royal Rumble 1997 when he was the imposter Diesel is just months before dawning the Kane gimmick, and his hair was long there too.--Charles-Joseph 05:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syd Barrett 

message: I've recently heard that the current Kane is not the Origional one. Apparently the Origional Kane retired because his injury in 2002 was permanent so the WWE brought in a new guy to to fill in the gap. Is there any truth to this at all?
:: Not at all true. Glen Jacobs has always been the wrestler to portray Kane, from his debut in 1997 up until now. The only other time when you could maybe say Kane was portrayed by another and that is a stretch imo, would be when they had Drew Hankinson portray the Fake Kane. Also there was a time several years back when the Undertaker and Kane swapped placed for the night to trick Vince McMahon. Kane appeared cloaked as the Undertaker and the Undertaker appeared dressed in Kane's outfit and mask, only with full length sleeves to cover his tatoos. Kalfu
:: No.Jacobs is the original, and only real Kane to have wreslted for WWE. Cosmic Larva 01:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would direct you here. Misinformation 04:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not the Origional?

message: Should we have section about the different mask he wore. Or have a page about the different ways his attire was set up like Undertakers personas page.
:No because the personas of the Undertaker page is up for deletion. If we make one about Kane, it wil also be deleted. --Mikedk9109 23:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there was no substantial change in personality with the costume alterations, unlike with Undertaker. -Darryl Hamlin 01:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu 01:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mask 

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support: Per my nomination reasons. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  18:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Why is everybody arguing about Kane's height? Doesn't he look like he is close to 7 feet? Yeah, WWE bills them more than they are, but it's obvious to anyone that he is almost 7 feet. His real height is 6'9" (206 cm) and he wears uppers in his boots that make him 6'11(+1/2)" (211 cm). So, WWE adds half an inch and bills him at 7'. As for his weight, in real life he weighs 294 pounds, even though World Wrestling Entertainment claims he is 320 lbs.   ("The Prophecy" ,from Athens-Greece).
:Got any sources for these? --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  14:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kane has never worn three inch lifts.  Ever.  I suggest you read this article:  http://www.celebheights.com/a/23.html to become a bit better informed on just how lifts and elevator shoes actually work.  Kane typically gets about 1.25" over barefoot height from his wrestling boots.   Circa 1999 when he was about 1.5" taller than Taker in ring (Taker wore bigger boots during this time as well) he was getting 2" - 2.5" over barefoot height in his gear.  WWE has no method for billing wrestlers, there is no rule of thumb.  Some shorter guys are underbilled, some are overbilled, some are accurately billed and the same goes for the bigger guys.  The "Monsters" are usually the most overbilled.
Manssiere 17:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Charles-Joseph, a 3" heel height (heel + insert) does not boost height by 3".  A 3" heel gives only marginally over 2" boost to barefoot height.  A typical wrestling boots gives 1" - 1.25" boost over barefoot height.  http://www.celebheights.com/a/23.html  Like I said, Kane has never worn three inch lifts. The only way you are going to add 3+" of height over barefoot is to wear a full on platform shoe, which will not allow for any in ring manueverability and will look ridiculous.  Kane, even in his largest lifts (1998 - 1999) was still nearly 2" shorter than 7'0" Big Show.  Today he is nearly 4" shorter than Show.  Manssiere  —Preceding comment was added at 16:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kane's Size 

message: Is Kane jewish??? I've heard alot of rumours about it, but is it true? Emilos 15:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Kane Jewish? 

message: Is the fact that Kane's parents died in a fire true or was it just to pump up Kane's character? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 989 RVD (talk) 22:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kayfabe? 

message: The fact on the page about his number of Rumbles need to be changed, he's been in 11
96 as Isaac Yankem
97 as New Diesel
99-07 as Kane
 This page is about the wrestler WWE Kane, not his past gimmicks. fadedx 15:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ROYAL RUMBLE CORRECTION