Talk:Shaken baby syndrome

message: Why are there illustrations of skull fractures in the article?  Skull fractures are not a common characteristic of shaken baby syndrome.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bticho (talk • contribs) 14:49, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

message: In Sweden, now that one victim of sbs (a father) has been declared innocent on appeal to the Swedish Supreme Court on the basis of a baby's blood sample after serving three years of a four-year prison sentence for sbs (the mimic of sbs was congenital rickets but no vitamin D blood test performed at birth)  a group of medical practioners had the brilliant idea of using the obligatory dried blood sample that is taken from every new-born to test for vitamin-D levels.
The Swedish Council on Health Technology Assessment  together with  The Swedish National Council on Medical Ethics have initiated a two-year project that is ongoing and should be completed in March, 2016 on an assessment of sbs as a diagnosis. 
“We thought we were helping by uncovering these other medical conditions that can look like abuse, but are not abuse," Patrick Barnes, chief of pediatric neuroradiology at the Children's Hospital at Stanford University said, "It actually threatens the entire shaken baby syndrome working group and industrial complex.”  RPSM (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Ongoing developments

message: Eye on the Courts: Shaken Baby Syndrome Has Troubling Scientific Foundations RPSM (talk) 17:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:   Eye on the Courts: Shaken Baby Syndrome Has Troubling Scientific Foundations - material from 2014 

message: Challenging the Pathophysiologic Connection between Subdural Hematoma, Retinal Hemorrhage and Shaken Baby Syndrome.  Steven C. Gabaeff, MD The author discloses he is a designated expert by the Los Angeles County Committee of Superior Court Judges “appointed to maintain a Panel of Expert Witnesses”, “providing expertise for both prosecutors and defense attorneys” in the areas of emergency medicine, child abuse and sexual assault. The author has provided expert opinions on medical-legal issues in criminal, civil and dependency matters for over 22 years in more than 1,300 consultations. RPSM (talk) 10:00, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Learned article covers the main themes in questioning the diagnosis '' shaken baby syndrome'' 

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message: http://www.sbu.se/contentassets/09cc34e7666340a59137ba55d6c55bc9/skakvald_2016.pdf 
RPSM (talk) 17:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to Swedish report (in Swedish and English)

message: http://www.ga-innocenceproject.org/images/SBS%20Seminar-10.12.11/Plunkett%20Supplemental%20Materials/Plunkett%20Zip%20File/Uscinski%20R.%20SBS.%20Br%20J%20Neurosurg%202002.pdf  RPSM (talk) 09:31, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to article

message: Andy Coghlan Evidence of shaken baby questioned by controversial study New Scientist  RPSM (talk) 16:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article on Swedish report

message: http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1559&context=articles  RPSM (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Moran/Findley/Barnes/Squier 20012 sbs, AHT, and Actual Innocence. Getting it right.

message: An initiative by two Swedish physicians representing a group of doctors, lawyers engineers, etc who contributed their time voluntarily and could not help noticing some inconsistencies in the cases which had been diagnosed with shaken baby syndrome causing their group to grow with new victims affected by this diagnosis.
They decided to apply to Statens beredning för medicinsk och social utvärdering, (The Swedish Agency for Health Technology Assessment and Assessment of Social Services) to conduct an impartial assessment of the diagnosis. 
http://www.dn.se/debatt/rattslaget-osakert-for-spadbarnsforaldrar/ RPSM (talk) 15:59, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This was a letter to the editor of DN - main broadsheet in Sweden 

message: Some may argue that we need not worry about judicial inexperience
with science because it is just this inexperience that will steer a Justice
toward reputable journals and away from dubious junk science. But this
logic is not completely reassuring. . . . Justices cite authorities with a
terrific range of prestige and reputation. Yes, they rely on articles in the
New England Journal of Medicine, but they also cite to blog
posts, sporting magazines, interest group websites, and (in lower courts)
even to Wikipedia.  RPSM (talk) 16:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Paper describing the Swedish official review of shaken baby syndrome 

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message: [Published online 2010 Sep 29.Unexplained Fractures: Child Abuse or Bone Disease? A Systematic Review  RPSM (talk) 08:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to 2010 paper 

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message: https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/hovratten-mamman-far-inte-vardnaden/ RPSM (talk) 21:34, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reporting of Shaken Baby Syndrome in Sweden 

message: === Unbalanced ===
* The article, especially the introduction, does not clearly state the controversy surrounding the topic. Namely that the pediatric community and forensic pathologists have opposing views regarding if the signs and symptoms of SBS are pathognomonic for parental violence. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/08/shaken-baby-syndrome-war-over-convictionshttps://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23230994-100-evidence-of-shaken-baby-questioned-by-controversial-study/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/shaken-baby-science-has-been-discredited-and-many-convictions-must-be-reconsidered.html
* Since the causal relationship between specific signs and symptoms and parental violence is disputed, even among experts, the article needs to be reviewed and rewritten so it does not explicitly favor any one of these viewpoints. For example, the risk factors section implies that parental violence is the cause. Same with later sections.
=== Neutrality of introduction ===
* As noted above, the introduction in particular is heavily leaning towards establishing parental violence as the cause. As even the name of the diagnosis is controversial, the article's introduction should highlight the controversial aspects more clearly.
=== Introduction relies on a single source ===
* The introduction and diagnosis fact box relies too much on the first reference, and since the topic is controversial, more sources needs to be included to provide a balanced and neutral overview of the facts surrounding the diagnosis.
=== Synthesis of material in introduction ===
* This refers to the beginning of the second paragraph of the introduction, quoted above, where the first and third reference are interspersed with different sentences. Clearly a case of source synthesis to make the strengthen the causal claim.
=== Cleanup rewrite ===
* The later parts of the article (e.g. Diagnosis) suffers from what seems to be edits from both sides trying to impose their viewpoints, making the article cluttered and makes it so neither side's claims is clearly stated. The structure of the article may need to be modified so that the controversy is better highlighted, and so accurate claims from either side is presented. Not sure how this is best done, if everything is piled into a controversy section, this section could grow to take over the entire article.
Strange-attractor (talk) 13:02, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple issues June 2021 

message: * The later parts of the article (e.g. Diagnosis) suffers from what seems to be edits from both sides trying to impose their viewpoints, making the article cluttered and makes it so neither side's claims is clearly stated. The structure of the article may need to be modified so that the controversy is better highlighted, and so accurate claims from either side is presented. Not sure how this is best done, if everything is piled into a controversy section, this section could grow to take over the entire article.
Strange-attractor (talk) 13:02, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup rewrite 

message: The article refrers to "MPT" (penultimate paragraph) but it's meaning is not given. Dorcots (talk) 21:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service.  I've added the appropriate link. Tevildo (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unexplained Acronym 

message: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3183936/?ref_=tt_urv
Seems relevant, but not mentioned in the article. Why? 46.24.26.231 (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer is pretty simple: It's not a "reliable source," especially for a medical condition.  As this diagnosis generates a lot of controversy, there have also been books written on this topic taking different positions.  If there is a reasonable way to list these without running afoul of NPOV, that might be a good way to handle it.  Sharing the viewpoint of The Syndrome, there is also Flawed Convictions: "Shaken Baby Syndrome" and the Inertia of Injustice by Deborah Tuerkheimer, and The Forensic Unreliability of the Shaken Baby Syndrome by Randy Papetti. UncleHoot (talk) 19:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Syndrome (documentary) 

message: Would be good to add some of this to the page: https://www.cambridgeblog.org/2023/05/a-journey-into-the-shaken-baby-syndrome-abusive-head-trauma-controversy/ Ergzay (talk) 05:41, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New evidence coming out that Shaken Baby Syndrome is not a real diagnosis 

message: I've seen the term "retino-dural hemorrhage of infancy" used in a couple of places in the literature.(,) This seems to be a new term that is intended to avoid the implied judgement in the name "shaken baby syndrome", and while it's not yet widely used, it's of particular interest that Norman Guthkelch, the original discoverer of SBS, is using the term. Is this getting any traction? Should it be in the article? — The Anome (talk) 15:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retino-dural hemorrhage of infancy