Talk:Back to the Future Part II

message: everyone is going to celebrate a day that was clearly chosen purely randomly, and just illustrates a giant blunder?this is very clear due to the lack of one single bit of halloween flavor or acknowledgment in the film. The creators of the film clearly chose this date randomly. and this shines a spotlight on how they made a big mistake choosing oct 21st as the day the character went. they clearly were not mindful of the fact that during that season in time, there would be halloween decorations everywhere. even in 1955 im certain that halloween was still a widely celebrated holiday. this would be like them choosing randomly, december 21st 1955 for the character to go back, and then failing to remember to include any christmas decorations anywhere! clearly this just highlights what a giant blunder this was by randomly choosing oct21st. this just illistrates that 80's movies often did not pay much attention to details!
:Has any reliable source discussed this? I tend to doubt it. DonIago (talk) 19:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: How is this helping the article (which is what talk pages are meant for)? -- Lyverbe (talk) 21:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

text: They mentioned the Cubs winning the world series, so the date would have to have been around the end of the baseball season (which, as explained in 2015_World_Series#Historical_notes, would have ended around October 21 if not for the Division Series being added in 1994), so the date is not entirely random. Also, the present time for the trilogy's characters are between October 25 and 27, 1985, and we don't see Halloween decorations in the 1985 scenes either. Nine hundred ninety-nine (talk) 04:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  halloween clearly omitted from film, oct21 date just exposes giant blunder in the film. 

message: I think I may have found the source of the idea for bringing back an almanac from the future: Conflict (TV series) had an episode called "Man From 1997" (broadcast 1956 November 27). The protagonist, a poor immigrant janitor, is in love with a woman who does not want to marry a poor man. He buys the almanac and, after realizing it is from the future, decides to start betting on the horses and from there move on to other things so he can marry his love.
You can watch it on Youtube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlxHUmzecE
Phantom in ca (talk) 05:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a common enough trope that it's unlikely that this is the specific source for the idea. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:39, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found: Source of the idea of an almanac from the future? 

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message: Why the undo on the paragraph->table of the Accolades section?  I personally find it so much easier to read in a table than messy paragraphs. -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: And what is the reason to add it? Some people find it easier to read it in a table, and other people find it easier to read it in a paragraph, so...it is arguable. --Tajotep (talk) 15:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Arguable indeed but there was no discussion because you just removed it on behalf of "some people".  You ask the reason to add it which is something I already explained: It's much easier to read.  Cleaner too.  I guess we'll see what others have to say about it. -- Lyverbe (talk) 11:06, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Accolades section 

message: In Back to the future III they explain that the fusion machine powers the flux condenser. It isn't to make the car run. The text should be changed "to extract electric energy from food waste."
190.234.181.123 (talk) 03:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing anything relevant to your concern in the plot summary for this film? Did you misplace this note? Cheers. DonIago (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably referring to the "Depection of the future" section where it says "Cars and other vehicles have been able to be run using fuel generated from food wastes, though not through a fusion reactor as suggested in the film" -- Lyverbe (talk) 22:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Since BttF2 (via BttF3) basically says that the fusion reactor doesn't run the car, should we just strike that part? That section's detailed enough that I'm not sure that would be a significant removal. DonIago (talk) 14:05, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm OK with that -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  DonIago (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making cars run with food waste 

message: Can someone confirm the bolded part? I watched the movie less than an hour ago, but don't remember that being stated explicitly. My suggested replacement (if "in America" is found to be speculation) is "Biff has [...] become extremely wealthy and corrupt". Glades12 (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote I found is "Inside you will learn how Biff Tannen became one of the richest and most powerful men in America." Cheers. DonIago (talk) 18:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I figured it would be stated at some point in Biff's 1985. Glades12 (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose we could argue that the narrative is essentially a propaganda piece and consequently not necessarily reliable...  :p DonIago (talk) 19:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't this a real problem for researchers of highly authoritarian states (both past and present)? That the only information available is what the government itself puts out? Glades12 (talk) 06:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably; happily for me, I don't tend to edit articles dealing with subjects of that nature. DonIago (talk) 12:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Me neither. I got a bit speculative (for lack of a better word) there; I'm nowhere near certain on the veracity of that. Glades12 (talk) 17:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: "Biff has [...] become one of the wealthiest and most corrupt men '''in America'''"

message: Someone keeps repeatedly, according to the history, changing dates in the article from 2015 to 2021. Perhaps it should be locked down to keep further vandalism from occurring?
--2600:6C67:897F:EC43:A559:1B27:F76E:C7EE (talk) 21:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Locking This Article Against Vandalism

message: Is this worth adding to the article? After rewatching, one of the most striking ‘predictions’ for me in Back to the Future Part 2 was the movie’s villain. Biff Tannen is directly inspired by Donald Trump, as outlined by the movie’s writer:
> Asked if Trump was on his mind during the writing process, he replied: “We thought about it when we made the movie! Are you kidding?”
> “You watch Part II again and there’s a scene where Marty confronts Biff in his office and there’s a huge portrait of Biff on the wall behind Biff, and there’s one moment where Biff kind of stands up and he takes exactly the same pose as the portrait? Yeah.”
The movie effectively predicted the rise of a corrupt gambling magnate to become the most powerful man in America - in the same year when it happened, considering President Trump launched his campaign for president in 2015. For me, this is one of the movie’s most impressive predictions, and well worth mentioning in the article. 109.38.132.213 (talk) 18:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Trump derangement syndrome Jack Meihoffer (talk) 02:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biff and Trump? 

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message: So, about the recent expansion to the plot summary, I have a few questions.
Since Marty being easily goaded is a major theme in this film and Part III, is it relevant to mention Marty being called "chicken" in the summary? Also, what should we do regarding the climax (in this case, it's Marty retrieving the almanac from Biff)? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot question