Talk:BMW 5 Series (E28)

message: I am an old school BMW enthusiast and have owned, seen, repaired and driven many for much of my life. As far as I know the "check control" light panel does not include any metric for brake pad wear in USDM or euro models. It is a warning light in the instrument cluster (separate from "check control"). I made an edit to reflect that, however if there does exist a check control warning light for brake pad wear lets talk about it and edit accordingly. I can see it being a thing for markets like Japan or South Africa but like I said, I have not driven or repaired any e28 models from those markets. 
DaddyDevito (talk) 23:07, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The owners manual states that check control panel includes metrics for brake lights, headlamps, engine oil, tail lights, number plate illumination, windscreen washer fluid, and engine coolng water (page 133; 5—16). The brake pad wear indicator is indeed in the gauge cluster, under the tachometer (or clock) (owner's manual page 11; 1—10), as seen in this picture. Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:43, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check Control 

message: Hello Mr.Choppers,
Regarding the edit summary stating "incorrect application of units", I believe that the edit is in accordance with WP:CARUNITS. All of the figures are supported by sources with kilowatt ratings, therefore the then-obsolete Pferdstarke (PS) ratings are not required to verify the stated figures. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Metric horsepower is in no way obsolete, it is probably the most commonly used unit globally. All sources use metric hp and kW. I have also told you ten times by now to stop calling metric horsepower by the German name, you are wrong and this behavior is becoming offensive. Your pretend confusion is based on the WP conversion template using an incorrect abbreviation. We covered this extensively at Talk:BMW 6 Series (E24)#Engine specifications and you have so far not been able to provide a scrap of support for your stance beyond a partial and selective reading of CARUNITS. Even the British BMW importer used metric horsepower: look here.  Mr.choppers | ✎  12:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Mr.Choppers, your decision to revert the edit while my Talk Page discussion in ongoing is quite disappointing and at odds with Wikipedia's fourth pillar.  Thank you for the link to the brochure, however I do not agree that a brochure (for a 6 Series) single-handedly proves that the then-obsolete Pferdstarke (sorry if you somehow find the German word offensive, but this is how the unit is abbreviated on Wikipedia) unit is closely associated with this generation of 5 Series.  WP:CARUNITS states "The power rating for cars from metric countries should be shown in kilowatts (kW), with horsepower (hp) in parentheses", so could you please explain why you this should not apply to the current article? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "PS" stands for metric horsepower, just as how K means Potassium and not Kalium. Period sources all use metric hp,even the english ones. The only reason that particular wording is there is because you added it in 2019, something I just noticed. I will revert to the original version.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:10, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see how potassium is relevant to the question of horsepower units for this car?  Also, please see my previous request for an explanation about why unit conventions should not apply to this article? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:03, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not feign ignorance, it doesn't suit you. Calling metric horsepower "Pferdestärke" just because it is (incorrectly) abbreviated PS in WP is akin to saying id est instead of "that is." We abbreviate Tungsten "W", but this doesn't mean we call it wolfram. It is contentious editing, you are consciously doing it in order to make metric hp appear obscure. I have politely pointed this out to you several times already.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:52, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's funny how much this echoes the discussion above, where you and  are arguing about rpms and ccs (albeit under different names, with you on the reasonable side).  helpfully included the quote "the primary units chosen will be SI units, non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI, or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as revolutions per minute (rpm) for angular speed, hands for heights of horses, et cetera)."  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pferdstarke ratings