Talk:Yiddish phonology

message: Does Klein really transcribe oy as ? That seems quite, um, idiosyncratic. —Angr 21:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, (s)he transcribes it as .  Not much of an improvement, is it? — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 21:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a great picture, but I think it's a she. Can we use a different source that says what people expect to see? —Angr 21:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Firespeaker and I have been discussing this page a bit on my talk page.  If you've got a better source, please bring it to the table.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 21:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't know what you consider a better source, but I certainly have other sources, though not by phoneticians. Uriel Weinreich in both Modern English-Yiddish, Yiddish-English Dictionary and College Yiddish says simply that ױ is "shorter than oy in boy". Birnbaum in Grammatik der Jiddischen Sprache describes ױ as "Kurzes ungespanntes o und kurzes gespanntes i, ungefähr wie eu in ‚Eule‘" ["short lax o and short tense i, approximately like eu in 'Eule'"], suggesting . W. B. Lockwood in Lehrbuch der modernen jiddischen Sprache says "wie deutsches eu" ["like German eu"]. So that's at least one native Yiddish speakers (Birnbaum) saying in print that the ױ diphthong ends in a high front vowel, and another (Weinreich) strongly implying it. —Angr 22:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oah vey??? 

message: There are two Yiddishes North and South.
For example Northern Yiddish spoken in Lithuania would say - Du bist ayn klayner bruter.  Whereas a Southern Yiddish speaker in Poland would say - Dee bist ein kleiner breeter. 
It relates to the Hebrew phonology as well.--Saxophonemn (talk) 04:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks almost entirely like phonological differences (or at least, the differences seem to be the result of different phonological changes).  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 08:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Than One Yiddish 

message: This may be a stupid question, but does Litvish Yiddish raise /ɛ/ to [e] before e.g. /nʲ/ like Russian? Squee3 (talk) 01:40, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Litvish Yiddish raise /ɛ/ to [e] before e.g. /nʲ/ like Russian? 

message: I am a bit confused about the four types of affricates. Kleine's descricption is not really helpful here (as in the case , which I could only sort out with the help of Katz's book). The table in Kleine's article only has sibilants, and just three sets . The palatalized postalveolars  are mentioned along with three other types in the "Affricates"-section, but the -part of these affricates comes out of the blue, without any match in the tabulated inventory. So I wonder, what's the exact nature and status of these four affricates? Since palatalized consonants in Yiddish have entered via Slavic loanwords, it's a bit surprising to see that Yiddish has more affricate sets than Slavic languages (like Polish/Belorusian/Ukrainian with three full sets). Katz only has  (plus voiced variant  due to regressive assimliation), but that's maybe a spelling-oriented interpretation, since only tsade has the "perfect one-to-one correspondence between letter and sound" which Katz claims for Yiddish (Katz 1987:2). Unfortunately, I don't have access to Jacobs (2005), which might have more info about. Can anyone knowledgeable help? –Austronesier (talk) 12:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four types of affricates