Talk:Bed bug/Archive 1

message: "Bed bugs are still very common and can be found in almost every household."
This is nonsense. I have travelled the world for fifteen years and only encountered bedbugs once. They are not common pests. They are especially nasty surprises.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.154.113 (talk) 00:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, 76.10.154.113.  Here's an article which notes that, despite the recent spread of bedbugs in the USA, "there are thousands of pest control professionals out there who have never had to do the bedbug job." So it obviously cannot be true that bedbugs are found in almost every household.  (To the best of my knowledge, I've never seen one.)  That sentence was added to the article on 17 October, 2007 by an anonymous editor using IP 141.154.245.193..  It appears to be simple vandalism, so I'll remove it.  NCdave 07:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Common in almost every household"

message: A simple search for "bedbugs jump" will offer many sources citing that bedbugs DO jump.  That they are capable of jumping several feet, or jumping from host to host.   Perhaps it would be beneficial to include this misinformation (if it is misinformation) more prominently.  I have always believed that bedbugs were able to jump quite far.69.86.138.163 09:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Bedbugs do not jump"

message: Reading an article on another insect (ticks), I noticed that the section on removal had been removed. Is it appropriate to include a how-to pest control section in an article such as this? I wonder if the how-to section might not be better suited to wikibooks. In particular, the recommendation to mix pesticide and kerosene seems a bit-- well, scary. --Tom Allen 06:51, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: What version of Tick had a section on removal?  I think this kind of information is appropriate and encyclopedic.  Ticks and bedbugs are of primary interest to humans as pests, and one of the most important things to find out about pests is how to get rid of them and keep them away.  Information of purely entomological/scientific interest is certainly very appropriate, but so is this kind of common knowledge about pest control.  If it were to become very long than a separate article might be in order but that seems unlikely.  NTK 16:01, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There was formerly an article on Tick removal. (Actually, I first discovered it after our dog got her first (of many) ticks!) This version of Tick refers to the removal article, which has since been deleted. Several objected to including how-to instructions in an encyclopedia. (On the other hand, many print encyclopedias do precisely that!) I'm fine with leaving it in-- I was just wondering if there was a policy. Having said that, I do think the section could be cleaned up quite a bit. If a how-to section is included, it should provide sound, properly referenced, information. --Tom Allen 20:00, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that "how-to" articles belong in an encyclopedia, but that's different from the description of procedures and processes.  There doesn't need to be a separate article on "tick removal," a brief description in the "Tick" article proper should suffice.  NTK 19:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Prior Discussion

message: Does anyone know how much blood they consume in comparison to their unfilled body weight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Finog (talk • contribs) 23:49, January 18, 2006
:Maybe: I've crushed my share of them.  The ones that have eaten recently only have a few drops of blood in them.  Also, I asked my exterminator how I would know if my apartment has hundreds or millions of these things and he said that if I had millions, I'd be "losing five pounds a night." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.25.193 (talk • contribs) 22:04, January 23, 2006
::I crushed a couple of them after a sleepless night in the car outside the hostel I paid for ... obviously a couple of them had followed me to the car in my clothes or bags.  There was quite a bit of blood there, and the bugs were pretty sizable, maybe a centimeter or so.  Not sure how much - I shudder to contemplate trying to measure it; crushing the things alone made me want to vomit - but it was definitely more than a drop or two, and the whole thing seemed filled with blood; the smudge left was all blood colored, no bug-guts or whatever.  Ugh.  Excuse me now while I go get sick again....--csloat 06:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Just did another cleanup on the article.  Understandably, i've not wanted to revisit this subject in my mind!  However, a lot of duplicative information got placed in here, and I even saw some debates being written into the article itself (the diamataceous earth stuff, whether disposing of bedding is necessary, vacuuming, etc.).  I took a whack at getting things evened out a little better. — WCityMike (T | C) 05:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1/25/06 Cleanup

message: A recent ABC News story on the global rise in bedbugs quotes an Australian who stayed at an infested hostel as claiming to have got blood poisoning from them.  I could find no documentation that bedbugs could cause blood poisoning, so this seems to be misinformation and sloppy reporting.  Someone else who saw the spot or read articles based on it might want to include that information in this article, so unless it can be validated, it should be kept out, except to say it's misinformation.  --Coyoty 19:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Misinformation

message: irritated look Spent some more time fixing things.  It appears as if quote-unquote-contributors are taking no care in deciding where they're going to put their contribution, or even seeing if their remarks duplicate material elsewhere. — WCityMike (T | C) 19:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2/14/06 Cleanup

message: Revert wars never look good to the end user.  Let's hash out here and then act.  I'm not one of the reverters, but I am the Wikipedian who did the first major rehash on the article after my bedbug infestation last summer, and initially put in the links.  My stance is that they should stay in.  Wikipedia's "External Links" page indicates that "sites that contain neutral and accurate material not already in the article" and "sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article" are perfectly acceptable for inclusion in external links.  This is hardly an indiscriminate collection of links. — WCityMike (T | C) 00:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is, indeed, unfortunate.  Look back at the history.  An advertisement for live-pest-free.com was added by 61.68.64.180/210.10.141.164.  At the same time, a blog was added, which some people saw simply as a testimonial for the live-pest-free.com site.  The revert war was with respect to the advertising.  The other links suffered collateral damage.  That aside, the question still remains as to whether blogs belong.  Almost by definition, blogs are personal opinions.  Do they belong in an encyclopedia?  If so, when do you stop?  What criteria do you use to select the links? Ted 03:35, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was actually trying to zap the ads -- I don't know as I agree that the blogs were collateral damage from the ad revert.  I don't know as they really deserve to be zapped in this case, because of the sole fact that when these people are speaking of their attempts to deal with bedbugs, they are sharing informative personal experiences.  Also, seriously, bedbugs are not really a point of controversy -- it's not like we're speaking of political blogs about Bush and debating whether THOSE blogs belong on a Dubya entry. — WCityMike (T | C) 06:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would help for the external links to distinguish themselves with notes on what makes them notable.  Just having the link without description invites deletion if it looks like it doesn't contribute anything.  (BTW, I'm disappointed that the home bug suffocator doesn't really exist.  Oxygen deprivation for pest control is used for library and museum preservation, but those are closed systems, and an apartment isn't airtight enough.) --Coyoty 04:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of External Links

message: Is this term really associated with bedbugs?  I've seen it used for scabies around the Internet, but only here for bedbugs.  Coyoty 15:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Found it numerous times during initial research. — WCityMike (T | C) 21:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Breakfast, lunch, and dinner

message: How long does it take bedbug eggs to hatch?  I don't see that information anywhere in this article.  I've read anywhere between 6 to 10 days for the eggs to hatch
6 days read at: http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.en.35.010190.000533?cookieSet=1
10 days read at: http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic600.htm
bruiser07 03:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 4/08/06 Eggs

message: The Charles A. Campbell 1911 article is continually being removed by individuals who indicate that whale.to is a contentious site and a linkspammer.  
The external link in question has no advertisements on it whatsoever; it is simply an essay.  The open Request for Comment specifically "concerns the appropriateness of Whaleto linking to his personal website, and his conduct relating to such discussions."  This is not the case with this external link; it was not placed on there by the user Whaleto; it was placed on there by me in one of my initial rewrites of the article.
I have reviewed, as suggested, WP:EL, and I have no idea what is meant by JzG's comment in the edit history that "copies of other sources on private sites are not generally suitable."  Perhaps he'd be so kind as to elucidate which item on WP:EL he is referring to.  The site seems to fully satisfy the suggested prerequisites listed under "What should be linked to" and embody none of the prerequisites listed under "Links to normally avoid".  Additionally it does not appear to be external link spamming.
Despite the above, I'm not married to the whale.to source of the article and am more than comparable to a lateral edit.  My point is: it is not fruitful to make entirely destructive changes for purposes of pure pedantic bureaucracy.  If you have a personal problem with the version of the article being housed on whale.to, then find another source and change the link; don't just remove the source of information from the article. — WCityMike (T | C) 14:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of Charles Campbell External Link

message: I'm not disputing the removal , but I'm puzzled.  I go to the site in question, and even with AdBlock Plus disabled, I only see one line worth of Google ads -- plus, Googling the text he's using yields no results on Google, leading me to believe it might be original writing.  I've seen this link deleted before as a "Google Ads-farm" site, but I'm not certain I really see it.  Can someone explain it for me? — WCityMike (talk • contribs • where to reply) 16:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Bed-Bug.Org Link 

message: First,, i was not aware of the discussion aspect of Wikipedia.. I too have found it frustrating to enter relevant information of value to readers and then find it either deleted or changed..
I would not enter info into a Wikipedia subject if I didn't have reasonable knowledge of the subject. IN the bedbug item, there is a considerable amount of suggestions and information about prevention, preparation, and treatment. While  I may not always agree with every point of view, i do feel it my duty to inform and educate and warn readers in certain areas. 
So wehn i see something about Most reputable firms will ask for preparation.. i know that is patently incorrect -- and i changed it to ALL reputable firms.. that is just reality... not opinion or POV... no specific firm is named, so the recommendation speaks truth.. and in any service related item, this kind of information is absolutely necessary.. I am sure many of the bedbug sections are written by professionals in the pest control, professors of entomology and , like myself.. some Board Certified Entomologists ....   i was beginning to feel as if someone in a disreputable firm did not want the warnings there...  
still learning about how to input into wikipedia...
i had entered in another section and found deletions of very relevant information.. troubling.. so in that section (not bedbugs) .. i am pasting it back in every time i see it gone. I feel it a duty so people can have the important information someone else wants to hide or whitewash...
I look to the folks in Wikipedia to be on the alert for inappropriate entries, but mostly i find the material is really excellent..  
i have not had time to go through every single bit of the bedbug item, but i will keep a watch on it and add material as it becomes known.. The use of glue boards and balloons to detect bedbugs is unproven..   i tried it.. perhaps not enough there.. some people tell me it works, .. wish we had more relevant info on that.. they are sometimes very very hard to find... when there is a hidden small pocket that has avoided being detected or treated...  
I deal wtih this issue every day in my work...
best wishes
Sam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entoman (talk • contribs) 
:Your addition, "Due to the habits of bedbugs to hide almost anywhere, it is necessary to ensure that the treatment of the home as well handling clothing and bedding will ensure that the insects are all killed by treatment", says the exact same thing as what's already in that paragraph: "If an apartment is not properly prepared either by the resident or the professional, the coverage of pesticides and/or chemical treatment throughout the home will be impaired, and thus the effectiveness of the treatment will be heavily reduced."  But I reworded that last sentence a little to make it clearer that we're talking about bedbugs surviving the treatment.
:We also talk about the ability of bedbugs to spread from one apartment to another higher-up in the article, because it's not speaking about pre-treatment, but about methods of infestation: "Finally, bedbugs may travel between units in multi-unit dwellings (such as condominiums and apartment buildings), after being originally brought into the building by one of the above routes. This spread between units is dependent in part on the degree of infestation, on the material used to partition units (concrete is a more effective barrier to the spread of the infestation), and whether or not infested items are dragged through common areas while being disposed of, resulting in the shedding of bedbugs and bedbug eggs while being dragged."
:And, again, "reputable" is a word demonstrating bias and opinion.  It's not a question of disreputable exterminators trying to sneak things in, Entoman; I'm not an exterminator.  But this is an encyclopedia, and as such, we're seeking an entirely neutral point of view.  That means keeping our opinions out of it.  That doesn't mean we can't say things, just that we can't say things in an opinionated way. — WCityMike (talk • contribs • where to reply) 23:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not immensely into bedbugs, but I got infested last year, and ended up asking my exterminator about five million questions.  After I "survived" the infestation (partially by moving out!), I decided that it would be good if I could share what I learned from the experience, and rewrote the bedbug article to incorporate everything I learned.  Nowadays bedbugs are mostly behind me — although, frankly, I'm jumpy enough that I might have a slight case of the D.P.s — but out of a sense of pride, I keep an eye on the bedbug article. — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 23:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral Point of View  

message: Does anyone know who wrote the original version of this article? I ask because I'm curious who it was, but I also feel the need to make a contribution to the text. In the section that refers to "number of visits by a pest management company" the author refers to an informal survey. I was one of the project leaders of that survey and it was not informal. I could add more information or a citation to an article to come out this summer covering more of the survey. I'm a new user (as of today) to Wikipedia, so I'm still figuring all this out. Jlgk723 19:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was the one who introduced that language into the text of the article.  I'm not sure why I used the word "informal," however, and after looking at the link that follows that sentence, "informal" is not mentioned anywhere in the source, either -- so I've removed it.  However, if you see errors anywhere on Wikipedia, don't worry about asking permission, just feel free to go ahead and fix them! — WCityMike (T | C)  ⇓ plz reply <U>HERE</U>  (why?) ⇓  19:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who wrote the original version? 

message: Why is it here? There seem to be lots and lots of refs in this article? Anchoress 05:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first section of the article, "Biology," is pretty well referenced, but the other two major sections, "Infestations" and "Treatment," have almost no references. I'll review the references for the first section ("Biology"), then move the Refs tag to the two sections to which it applies.  --Tom Allen 19:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Refs tag

message: I am very keen on finding out what pathogens (disease causing germs) bedbugs are known to carry. Some sources have cited that bedbugs are known to carry 24 pathogens. Can getting blood of bedbugs on your body or hands when you accidentally kill them cause spread of diseases? 
There is very little information of discussion of this subject. Those of you who are interested or concerned about this please share your experiences. 
I am basically very concerned. How can an organism that is now becoming so prevalent in North America and is known to carry 20 to 30 pathogens not be spreading disease? Can we assume they are not (speading disease) or is it that we don't yet know how they are spreading disease? Research is needed in this area and if people like you and me share our experiences and update wikipedia perhaps we can get experts to offer their comments or spark off research?
Links for your review:
http://studenttravel.about.com/od/healthystudentholidays/a/bedbugs_2.htm
http://news.ufl.edu/2001/07/24/bedbug/
http://health.state.ga.us/healthtopics/mme/012604.asp
http://www.shef.ac.uk/aps/contacts/acadstaff/siva-jothy.html
http://www.bed-bug.org/bed-bugs-health-risks/
Further thoughts:
Can bed bugs carry HPV (Human Papilloma Virus)? As you may know there are almost 30 types of this virus. Some cause genital warts. Some can even cause Common warts or Plantar warts claim some sources.
Rajeevy74 01:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bedbug Pathogens : How safe are we? 

message: To the question of using an ultrasonic device to repel bedbugs, professionals say "It's too good to be true."
Yes, those plug-in type ultrasonic devices are known to repel redents and some kind of bugs, but not specially for bedbugs. However, I tested it out.
After two days of keeping an untrasonic turned on, this morning, two bedbugs actually came out on the floor, waiting to be killed; this has never happened so far. They were hiding in some place I never know as if they have a sophisticated intelligent system. I can't say anything about the causal relationships between the bedbug's behavior and the device.
But, I just want to know what's found and what can be found about the effect of an ultrasonic device.
162.93.199.1 17:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultrasonic Device: Does it work? 

message: I disagree with the mixture of the terms professional and chemical! There are a number of other treatments, e.g. chemical treatments are mostly anywhere forbidden outside the US cause of health issues. The most promising technologies are heat and microwaves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.56.223.52 (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  professional does not mean chemicals 

message: The best surveillance approach that ever has been developed for the early detection of bed bugs is the Bed Bug Dog. The K9 can detect the presence of specimens before there are any bites or visible signs.
I tried to add a reference to this fact a while back, but it was edited out of the article.
The term BedBugDog is a trademark of Florida K9 Academy. Bill Whitstine was the first known trainer.
Could someone please provide some guidance as to how the use of Bed Bug Detection K9s can be added to the article. This is a major advance in the control of infestations & the public deserves to know about this approach.
Last December I assisted with a presentation about the use of K9s at the ESA conference in Indianapolis. The presentation was entitled BedBugDogs: A New Application of a Proven Technology. the presentation was part of the New Advances in Urban Entromology section of the program. The Entomological Society of America (ESA) is the largest group of insect researchers in North America. K9 assisted inspection is much faster & more accurate than a human inspector.
The University of Florida is currently conducting research to evaluate the use of K9s for bed bug detection. The use of K9s has a solid scientific basis.
Another researcher at the same conference presented research that demonstrated that bed bugs are becoming highly resistant to the registered pesticides that are available in the US. This information should also be included in the article. 
I am a K9 handler that was trained by FCA and I have an obvious bias.
There are several trainers that are now following Bill Whitstine's lead in training dogs for this task. I think Bill deserves a mention for being the originator of this approach, but the use of K9s really should be included even if there is no mention of Bill contribution to the industry. Bill was also the first trainer to train termite dogs.
I do not understand the editing process. 
How can this information be added? 
I can be reached at bedbugdogs@aol.com
Thanks
Doug Summers MS
K9 Handler  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.209.68 (talk) 18:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of K9's to detect bed bug infestations 

message: I have reviewed this article according to the GA criteria and have decided to quick-fail the article at this time for several reasons:
#Expand the lead, as it currently does not adequately summarize the article (see WP:LEAD).
#In the biology section, "common bedbug" doesn't need to have bold text, just the name of the article in the first sentence of the intro.
#The article is undersourced for the amount of information that is present. More inline citations need to be added for any statements that may be questioned over their verifiability. Right now, there is a reference tag in "Detection of infestations" and also a "citation needed" tags. Those would be a good place to start addressing the sourcing, and also look to other statements that readers may question.
#"Veterinarians may mistake bedbugs' leavings on a pet's fur as "flea dirt"." Either expand on this sentence or incorporate it into another paragraph; single sentences shouldn't stand alone.
#The current 10th inline citation needs to be better formatted rather than just showing [1] in the References section.
Once you have addressed these issues and have looked over the GA criteria, consider renominating the article again. If you disagree with this review, you can ask for another review at Good article review. If you have any questions let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Keep working on the article and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 05:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like Nehrams2020 forgot to remove the article from the list at WP:GAC, so I also reviewed the article today. There's no reason for me to rehash everything he has already stated, as I pretty much agree with his assessment. As an additional note, there's also a large number of external links in the 'external links' section at the end of the article; these could be trimmed a bit to remove any linkspam and/or non-notable links. It would help editors to review WP:EL for guidelines on external links in articles. Also, several of the journal articles linked here could probably also be used as references to cite information within the article itself. Cheers! Dr. Cash 21:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination: quick-failed

message: There are four pictures of bedbugs in the article, but none of the bites they leave.  Surely one of the images could be replaced with a bite picture.  I ask because I've heard they are rather unique-looking purple dots.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.161.164 (talk) 21:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bedbug Pictures

message: I had a bedbug infestation in my house for about 6 months. The main way of detecting that there were still there (even more so than the presence of bites) was by their faecal marks on the bed sheets. These always appeared as dark gray diamond-shaped marks for some reason. There is nothing about this in the main article. If you ever find marks like this on your bedding call pest control straight away - it confused me for a long time and by the time I saw the first bed bug (and realised what it was) I had left it too long! Does anyone know why these marks always took a diamond shape?
It took the pest controller about 5 visits to eradicate the infestation. He tried fumigation, spraying, and smoke. The only thing that proved effective was the spray. I can't remember what chemical it was (I think it was the same chemical used to control flea infestations), but every time it was sprayed on the carpet there were hundreds of dead bed bugs on the carpet over the next few days.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.197.36 (talk) 09:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Detection

message: Could someone please describe the mortality conditions as they relate to temperature? I was told that cold killls the little stinkers. If you live in a cold place, you can open the doors and winows, turn off the central heat and wait four hours for the tempertautre to fall to at least -10c to freeze them to death. Is this true?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.251.55 (talk) 19:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cold 

message: The second half of the article is devoid of almost any links to other wikipedia pages. I would suggest adding some to relevant supporting articles or word people may find to be confusing--PinDr4gon (talk) 22:43, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: In the interest of heading off another edit war over the external links, I will state that I have, for the moment, commented out the laundry list of web articles. These links should be converted into references, where appropriate. If the links do not offer any further verification for the article, they ought to be simply removed. This is under the first point at WP:LINKSTOAVOID -- you shouldn't provide a list of links in lieu of properly using references and citing them, nor should you provide links to material that is redundant with the article. Editors wishing to use these web pages as references can still see the list by looking at the article's source. (You might also consider moving the list to this talk page.) I have also updated the placement and frequency of various editing tags. Ham Pastrami (talk) 23:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note on external links 

message: I really enjoyed the article. I noticed that there was a section explaining what methods were used to treat an infestation of bedbugs, but I did not see anything mentioned about having all of the sheets cleaned in extreme heat to kill of the adults. You would then have to have the sheets cleaned again weeks later to kill any hatching young as well. I think it would be helpful to mention how you can get rid of them through cleaning and steaming. garza_j_e (User talk:garza_j_e|talk]])  —Preceding comment was added at 01:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment 

message: I think this article is very insightful and tells a lot of general information about bedbugs that would interest the average reader. The only thing I would do would improve the introduction of your article and maybe summarize the next paragraphs in your intro like any regular introduction. Just don't make it sound too much like a research paper. I think the pictures are a really good asset to the article too. Kt babe8 (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: A lot of text seems to be wikified, yet there are not yet pages created for the text.  Perhaps unwikifying it would not confuse readers by falsely telling them that there are links to those particular words.  If there is  text in red, the linking page should either be in process of being created, or the word should not be wikified.  Otherwise, awesome job and great formatting.  
Csb14 (talk) 15:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikified 

message: Great job with the article, one minor thing I might change about the section about Young is that the molts be descibed as instars if that you think that is accurate.Hold323 (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Young 

message: Overall I really liked it.  The only change could be your title maybe THE bedbug or even it's genus and species. Bedbug is just kind of there. Another thing under history, you stated that the bedbug arrived to America with the early colonists, but you didnt state from where. There were many colonists from many parts of the world so you maybe could be a little more specific there, but otherwise it was extremely informative!! Txshinerblonde (talk) 02:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classmate Feedback 

message: All I would do differently is either put the history portion first or put it last. I do not think it flows well putting the history in the middle. Try it out and see how it flows.. I don't have much else to say, as far as that goes. All that I think needs work is the flow or the over all article.Lopez stc1 (talk) 00:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flip the history 

message: This article is very good. I can say that it has been one of the best that I've read thus far. I love the fact that you guys went ahead and gave a slight insight of the bed bug history and how they have evolved. The pictures are great and help convey your information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melgo87 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classmate Feedback 

message: This article says that bedbugs were eliminated using DDT. But the article on DDT says that DDT doesn't affect bedbugs, it only 'excites' them. What gives?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.24.220 (talk) 02:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DDT Effectiveness 

message: I don't know how to add a citation: http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1005065.html
I'll appreciate it if someone who knows adds it. 217.132.150.164 (talk) 10:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now, they're back to Israel as well. 

message: *The history section needs a lead in and background. Historically where did bedbugs originate? If they were introduced to North America in the last couple of centuries there is a lot more history and this should be the lead in.
*Question - travel tips section is interesting but is it encyclopedic?
*Make your mind up! Bed bug or bedbug? I've standardised it to use bedbug, the article title.--Alex Marshall (talk) 09:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The bed bug is a true bug (a suborder of Hemiptera) and the name is therefore written as two words. And that is the way it is listed in the Entomological Society of America's listing of common names. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 02:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes to authors 

message: A report on National Public Radio in the US today, mentioned the resurgence of bedbugs in some areas of the US, with furniture being left on the curb, outside apartments, marked "bedbugs - do not use" or words to that effect.  
My father, who was born in Washington state in 1920, used to tell us kids at bed time, "Nighty-night, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite!", although that was a empty colloquialism by the 1950's and 1960's.  Sad to hear of Bedbugs coming back, although the tenting of homes and heating to high temperature treatments might be useful in warmer climates, killing the termites at the same time. WonderWheeler (talk) 06:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The saying Night night, sleep tight don't let the bedbugs bite actually I understand comes from Elizabethan (I) England. At this time beds did not use wooden slats, instead the matress was held up by a series of ropes. This ropes began to sag down to the floor after use and could be tightened by toggles on the side. The saying was a reminder to tighten the ropes up to prevent the matress touching the floor where more bedbugs lay. --Alex Marshall (talk) 14:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it is generally held that the above is an urban legend.  As far as I am aware, "tight" here means without interruption. http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwordorigins/tight  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.122.180 (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Developments 

message: I noticed while editing "External links" that a section that links to University materials was commented out. Was this intended? Or did someone goof? I would think that this section should be made available, unlike some of the other links that are displayed. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Universities commented out? 

message: I copied this article to Appropedia:Bedbugs, and have done a lot of culling and adding (to reflect that Appropedia's focus is on the practical side, and has different criteria).
I noticed that there is a lot of related content spread between sections. One example is the use of sniffer dogs, mentioned in two places. Another is the global resurgence, talked about in its own section as well as the history section. 
If I'd realized this earlier, I would have rearranged first, and copied to Appropedia later. As it is, I've made too many changes at the Appropedia article (to links, and removing references and templates) to copy content back. But still, I have put in some work there in ordering it, and it may be a helpful reference. Just ignore the emphasis on tips and solutions which go beyond what is suitable for Wikipedia. --Chriswaterguy talk 06:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content all mixed up 

message: Considering that the article describes the whole Cimicidae family and not just the commonly recognized bedbugs, the taxonomic breakdown to genera and species is probably wrong (besides being unreferenced). According to the book Schuh R.T. & Slater (1995): True bugs of the world. Cornell University Press, the family coprises of 6 subfamilies, with 75 species in total, not just 9. It would be good if the author of the taxobox revealed his source so we could compare. Another thing, Cimicidae were described by Latreille, not Kirkaldy (according to ITIS). --Yerpo (talk) 10:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxonomy 

message: There are several pieces to this article that have been noted as being "instructional/teaching".  I suggest simply removing the offending phrases (e.g., "how to") and leave as is or slightly edit the remaining information to maintain the WP focus on providing information not specifically instruction/advice.    Please help to rewrite portions of this article to remove the "How to, "do-it-yourself" aspect of the article while preserving the valuable information regarding eradication of the bedbug.
Jemusser (talk) 07:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "How to" Concerns 

message: No point arguing about scientific content when the first paragraph reads like a third grade book report. I added the word 'insect' to get things started. It needs grammatical correction for the sentence fragment and general disorganization. Anybody been to college? Want to take on the job? Okay, that's all I want to say. You can skip the next paragraph, it's a rant about Wikipedia.
Wikipedia really needs editors. There are already lots of brilliant experts in math and science and every other subject, but the articles are poorly written. Wiki needs people who studied English or Journalism at school to go in and fix the articles just to make them read properly. Check the article on Texas Hold'em for a good example. I'm willing to systematically rant about it all day if anyone would like some more info. Thanks.
204.187.137.2 (talk) 13:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  First paragraph needs to be fixed 

message: Change 'A' to 'The'. Rearranged it for grammar. Added a line explaining why it's called a bedbug. Having a conversation with myself right now.
204.187.137.2 (talk) 18:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fixed" first paragraph 

message: My name is Peter i am a computer technician, not an antimologist, i am on disability, so my budjet is limited, i have a bed bug infestation, i had my appartment sprayed without much results, i sleep with the lights on so they don't know if i am awake or not or what time of day it is so they canot use the cloak of darkness to hide or an indication of if i am to bed to sleep or to just lay around thinking or reading, also i have noticed that they do kump from higher places onto their intended victime's bed, i use the sound as an indication of their arrival, they hide in the fitted sheet after the have fallen onto my bed, and then i catch and crush them, i do not know where they hide or reproduce beforehand, and i now sleep with tight fitting clothes to minimize the attacks, i kill several every night except when i am realy tired which is rare, but i am still infested even if i keep the population down, i was looking foe more information about my "enemys" so that i may eradicate them, but my best technique yet is to catch them in the act and crushing them while giving them the least amount of chances to feed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.152.246 (talk) 18:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Leave the US!!! I've lived in France and in Switzerland, and I had never heard there of any bedbugs problems. It seems however very common in the US. Then again, in the US, people spray their fabric with crap like Febreeze instead of actually cleaning the fabric. To an American, what smells good is clean. No wonder you guys get so many such problems...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.178.123 (talk) 05:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and you guys eat snails. And you surrendered to Germany. While eating snails. Go play. --TangoFett (talk) 23:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bed Bugs, My Infestation. 

message: The section on New York mentions a number of "violations". This suggests that bed bugs are monitored by the city, and maybe there are laws against living in bedbug-ridden buildings. Is this the case? What laws, if any, relate to bedbugs? --118.90.57.62 (talk) 21:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Violations? 

message: This article has everything except the names of effective insecticides. Is this a deliberate omission, or do we simply not know how to kill the little pests? --Uncle Ed (talk) 17:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I've been reading that fresh-water diatomaceous earth (silicate dust from algae fossils), especially if mixed with small percentages of pesticides, show good promise. It works by drying out the insects when the come into contact with it. It may also damage the insects mechanically, by crystals being lodged inside waxy joints of the exo sceleton, thus ripping it up. DE is mostly harmless to humans, but it's adviced to use a face mask as the dust may get into the lungs and cause irritation, and in the long rund, silicosis. The downside is that it's proved excessively hard to find where I live here in Norway, Europe, and I don't know if it's possible to import US products. I do wonder, however, might Fuller's Earth also work? It's also a dessicant, so I see no reason why it shouldn't. --Kebman (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Here's a list of active ingredients in bed bug pesticides, Pyrethrin seem to be most common--voodoom (talk) 23:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Which insecticides are effective?

message: Deltamethrin: is the only one that works (JT Eaton)bluelable water based
has no smell I used it 2x and were gone. all the others dont work. 
tips: spray around wall baseboard carpet then ceal up any cracks in walls
near the floor;where the wall meets the floor with cauking; get rid of the matres once inside cant get rid of them.
caution: use glovs; mask; eye cover.this stuff is very unhealthy.
Deltamethrin is illeagal in some states of the U.S. because of
enviormental reasons.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.77.66 (talk) 08:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: For Peter: