Talk:List of regional Burning Man events

message: These do not appear to be actual Burning Man events. X Day is celebrated by many non-Burners. Kit 20:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed X-Day from the list -- Subgenius != Burner. However, Phoenix Fest does appear to be a real Burn event -- it's just that the Wikipedia article is about a different, non-Burner event in the UK. I disambiguated the link a little. Kit 21:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I'm considering making the split into official events/inspired events, but it's looking difficult. The Official Regional Event list would be the obvious source for this info, but I see several events missing from the 2011 list (e.g. Kiwiburn, Apogaea, Mychievia, Preheat, fall Playa del Fuego) that appeared in previous years. Did they lose their official status, or did the organizers just neglect to submit the event to the list? Many of the regional groups organizing events hold multiple events in a year, but it appears that usually only one is "official", and there is rarely any distinction made on the groups website (Burnt Oranges at least does explicitly note that Preheat is official and Afterburn is not). What constitutes a "relationship" with an an official RC? Must the RC have an active leadership role in planning the event? Plantdrew (talk) 20:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  X Day and Phoenix Festival 

message: I just took a couple events off here that didn't appear to be burns, and thought I'd pontificate a little about what does belong on this list. I don't think an event needs to be an officially BMORG recognized burn to be listed, but random electronic music festivals and new-age spirituality retreats, even if largely attended by burners and compared to Burning Man in the press surely don't qualify.
Instant disqualification:
*Events with vendors
*Events with paid speakers/musicians (having an entertainment schedule on the events home page or very prominently linked probably indicates paid entertainment)
Instant qualification:
*Event mentions the 10 principles
*Event is an officially recognized regional
Potentially qualifying factors:
*An effigy is burned
*Event website seeks volunteers
*Event mentions a modified version of the 10 principles (more than just LNT)
*Entertainment is organized by participants, not from the top down
I'm not sure how urban single-day pre/decompression events fit into this framework, but I believe the BMORG controls the use of those terms, so presumably anything calling itself a decompression will be officially recognized.Plantdrew (talk) 20:31, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What makes a burn? 

message: I had added Figment () events, but they were removed. I can see Figment events perhaps not qualifying as burns, but they are 10 principle based events and their appears to be some relationship with BMORG (they've been mentioned on the blog), although it's at a distance. I suspect the distance between BM and Figment is keep Figment even more radically inclusive than BM (i.e., toning down the nudity side of radical self expression so that people who don't want to associate with crazy burners can bring their kids). Figment certainly isn't an OFFICIAL regional, but neither are many other events on this list. Is there a good reason why Figment doesn't belong?
Somebody added Infusion (), and somebody else subsequently removed it. It is a 10-principles based event and perhaps should belong? My gut feeling says there's something off about it though. Cooked meals are provided which seems to be a major violation of radical self-reliance, but I can't find anything else concrete on the website to rule out it's being a burn. I did come across (), where a musician says:
:"Raivu and I will NOT be playing the Infusion Festival in August. Due to Burning Man including Infusion Festivals as part of their organization, they cannot pay us to play the first event and since this is our job, we simply cannot afford to play the first event for free. HOWEVER, we will be playing the event in September."
Does this mean she IS being paid for her September appearance? It's a little confusing since Burning Man has NOT included Infusion Festivals as part of their organization.
I'm leaving Infusion and Figment off for now, but am inclined to re-add both if nobody argues against it (I remain suspicious of Infusion however).Plantdrew (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Figment and Infusion-removed events