Talk:List of English words of Welsh origin

message: Got an email from an interested friend at the weekend with some more, for anyone who cares to confirm. He has a copy of 
W. W. Skeat, "Etymological Dictionary of the English Language"  (OUP 1879-1882). He says Skeat has suggestions which can go into the Celtic origin list at the very least, and possibly for here: trousers (may be Irish); and quay (various cognates in various Celtic languages). Anything in OED about them? Also, there is apparently a journal, Journal of Celtic Philology, in which he recalls seeing a Celtic origin for brag suggested. I haven't actually tried to find this one yet. Telsa (talk) 09:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Another batch

message: This article omits the single largest contribution of the Welsh language to the English language: the use of auxiliary verbs. If English were following the Germanic language convention, we would say, for example, "Have you the time?" With the Welsh introduction of auxiliary verbs, this becomes in Modern English, "Do you have the time?" with "do" being the auxiliary to the primary verb, "have". This one change had a greater impact on English than all of the Welsh grammar that was imported into English.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axeman (talk • contribs) 22:15, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: When did that happen? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auxiliary verbs 

message: The section "Welsh words used in English" appears to be a complete fabrication. These are not used in English in the sense of adopted words, they're just Welsh words. TBH I've never heard these being used as English words with the exception of the word "cwm" used by hill-walkers to refer to Welsh valleys. Indeed this whole page seems a bit of a stretch at first sight - using "Welsh" suggests that the words are not Brythonic in origin that they have been passed direct from modern (or at least Middle) Welsh to modern English rather than hanging around amongst speakers in the varies areas of England from the days of the Britons.
The first word "crag" claimed to be "derived from Welsh" is in the first source claimed to be derived from Celtic. I didn't look any further but this doesn't really inspire confidence particular as this was one of the few words with a reference.
IMO this article needs a serious rewrite to adopt a NPOV. Pbhj (talk) 02:01, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Welsh words used in English" / derivation from Welsh both appear errant 

message: "Category:Welsh loanwords" which is being deleted per this discussion contains the following articles that are not already linked from this article:
* Bard
* Howell and  Howell (surname)
* Marvin and Marvin (name)
* Welsh Corgi
DexDor (talk) 06:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former contents of loanwords category 

message: The English 'bard' is unlikely to come from 'bardis' - a word which doesn't appear in the Dictionary of the Scottish Language (the equivalent of the OED for Scots). I would assume that the word is 'new' (too new to be in the dictionary). THe DSL does have a word Bard which it clearly indicates is a borrowing from the Gaelic (Gaidhlig but equally at home in Irish) word Bard which means a poet. I'm going to remove the 'bardis' stuff and add the etymology 'Bard' from Scottish Gaelic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.4.122 (talk) 02:53, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bard, bardd and bardis 

message: I know that Eisteddfod is given as 'sitting' (eistedd) and 'bod' (to be) all over the internet but I think this is wrong, I have just checked in Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru (the University of Wales Welsh Dictionary) which is the definitive dictionary of the Welsh language and it give the derivation as being from Eistedd (sitting) and Bod meaning 'dwelling' (as occurs in Cornish 'Bos') and also in Welsh. It therefore is not derived from 'Bod' to be.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.4.122 (talk) 03:09, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eisteddfod 

message: It is suggested that English bow may be derived from Welsh Bwa however Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru says that Welsh Bua is actually a borrowing from the middle English, so the English can't have been borrowed from Welsh.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.4.122 (talk) 03:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bow 

message: I have been carrying out a study of field-names and other features in a small part of Staffordshire. I have found many instances of the name 'Gorse' and they all occur in currently or formerly boggy areas. These include several instances of Gorsey Lane and Gorsey Piece and several instances of the word associated with a village or hamlet name, such as Stonnall Gorse, Weeford Gorse and Footherley Gorse.
Bearing in mind that this part of the West Midlands was once dominated by the Cornovii, I have come to the conclusion that the name Gorse originated in the Iron Age and is Brittonic; further that it is closely related to the present-day Welsh word cors, meaning 'bog' and the probably closely related word corsen meaning 'reeds'.
Some people might be tempted to consider that the word originates from the common name of Ulex europaeus and in one or two cases that may be true. However, careful examination of the landscapes shows that all the instances I have quoted occur in low, boogy or flooded areas where the plant would fail to flourish. Its preferences are for relatively high, well-drained and dryish locations. WallHeath (talk) 13:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gorse (not the plant) 

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