Talk:Qingming Festival

message: I moved this page because of all the choices listed, "Tomb Sweeping Day" is most common via google search. It's better to use English, especially when English is most common. --Jiang 00:44, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: When I created this page, I thought a lot about precisely what to name it. Yes, it's better to use English when there's a clear translation, but the problem is that Qing Ming Jie is translated into any of a number of translations, and most of these translations are not even accurate and do not reflect the actual name of the holiday. Yes, when there's a clear translation, like in the case of the Lantern Festival, when the holiday is never called anything else in English, use the English name, but when the most common English name is (1) not a correct translation and (2) not really dominant (in the sense that Tomb Sweeping Day might be a plurality but not a majority), I would argue that it's better to keep it at "Qing Ming Jie." It's similar to why the "Qi Qiao Jie" article is where it is. --Lowellian 01:04, Mar 29, 2004 (UTC)
Google gives us the following hits:
*Qing Ming Jie - 218
*All Souls Day - 25700 (inclueds non Chinese links), not an option due to confusion
*Clear Brightness Festival - 47
*Festival for Tending Graves - 10 (only wikipedia links)
*Grave Sweeping Day - 174
*Tomb Sweeping Day - 1870
So clearly, the translations are for the last two, and they make a majority if you disregard the first two options. Faulty translations are part of the phenomenon and can be explained in the article itself. If we are to keep "Qing Ming Jie", is this the appropriate spacing? Is there no space between qing and ming? --Jiang 05:49, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: First, Qingming is the correct spacing as per regular Hanyu Pinyin rules. Second, "Tomb Sweeping Day" is only used in Taiwan. In Hong Kong, for example the official English name is "Ching Ming Festival". Finally, if you search for "Qingming Festival" on Google, you get 27500 hits. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner and it is the existing title.--Lapin rossignol (talk) 22:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: The Vietnamese also observe this holiday, known as "Thanh Minh".  Some of the most memorable lines from the most significant Vietnamese work of literature, Truyện Kiều, refers to the sceneries during this holiday:
:Thanh minh trong tiết tháng ba,
:Lễ là tảo mộ, hội là Đạp Thanh.
:Gần xa nô nức yến anh,
:Chị em sắm sửa bộ hành chơi xuân.
:Dập dìu tài tử, giai nhân,
:Ngựa xe như nước áo quần như nêm.
::Nguyễn Du
DHN 01:33, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not anymore, also the Tale of Kieu takes place in Ming China. Lachy70 (talk) 01:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Vietnamese customs

message: I think the following link is appropriate for this article, but it was removed by the Bot. Could anyone take a look to see if it's ok to add this link?
* Qingming Festival from China Travel Guide  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pintogiants (talk • contribs) 18:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External link

message: >In Taiwan this national holiday is observed on April 5 because the ruling Kuomintang moved it to that date in commemoration of the death of Chiang Kai-shek on April 5.
This statement is not supported or sourced.  It was already observed on April 5.  However, in 2012, it will be observed on April 4, not April 5.  08:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taiwan and Chiang 

message: ;Native names
Kindly do not restore the mess of scripts and translations to the first line. Once it gets that messy, we can use an infobox and, once we have an infobox, we shouldn't repeat the information in the lead sentence. See  for policy and  for any new languages (Japanese, Korean, &c.) you'd like to add to the infobox. — LlywelynII 02:57, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: isn't actually a thing. It's the most common translation at the moment so that's where the page is, but Chong'er (his name) became known as the "Literary Duke of Jin" as an honorific title after his death. The Wen is an adjective and not a name and he should properly be called "the Wen Duke", not "Duke Wen". Kindly maintain it. — LlywelynII 03:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all well and good , but it's borderline original research. Sources refer to him as "Duke Wen", so that is his common name and the one that should be used according to Wikipedia guidelines. ► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 05:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. It's where his page should be according to Wikipedia guidelines; makes no difference in our phrasing here, hence the explanation and request. We can just call him Chong'er the whole way through the article but that seems less helpful not more. — LlywelynII 06:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with . I've never seen any respectable publication use "Wen Duke".  "Wen Duke of Jin" (exact phrase) gets a grand total of 9 results on Google, whereas "Duke Wen of Jin" gets more than 500,000. -Zanhe (talk) 09:29, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides, "Wen" here is not a pure adjective, but a posthumous name derived from an adjective, cf. the term Rule of Wen and Jing. -Zanhe (talk) 09:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: =( But they're wrong... =( — LlywelynII 09:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Duke Wen of Jin

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message: On these lines, there is an unknown unicode character U+63862 which appears to be an unassigned code point.
Does anyone know what it is supposed to represent, and how the character came to be here?
梗梨𤽸點沒𢽼񣡢花， Cành lê trắng điểm một vài bông hoa Some blossoms marked pear branches with white dots.
𧵆賒奴㘃燕񣡢， Gần xa nô nức yến oanh As merry pilgrims flocked from near and far, 85.203.222.249 (talk) 16:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If I had to guess, the characters are intended to be  and  respectively. Pinging @Lachy70 as the resident chữ Hán expert? Remsense诉 18:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the characters are supposed to be 葻 bông and 鸚 anh (oanh is wrong). Perhaps when the person who added these characters, 𱽐 (⿱艹𲋄) and 𲍣 (⿰𱙎鳥) was not encoded yet, thus there are two unknown unicode characters. These characters have Vietnamese variants of radicals 風 (𲋄) and 嬰 (𱙎). Lachy70 (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, thanks for the insight! :) Remsense诉 19:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%E1%BB%AF_N%C3%B4m has a bunch of characters as well from the "Supplementary Private Use Area-A, U+F0000 - U+FFFFF", which makes more sense for having been used in this way. 85.203.222.249 (talk) 20:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange unicode character "񣡢" on the page