Talk:Dimitri Simes

message: The above was deleted with the uncreative ES of "removed fake news".  I not saying wording can't/shouldn't be adjusted, but the ES was meaningless. X1\ (talk) 01:32, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: @X1. Thank you. Yes, sure. If you think the summary/text should be modified, please do. I am sure it can be improved. I am not interested in this subject, but simply looking at the sources, the first of them tells: "He was a member of the district Komsomol bureau and participated in the crackdown of the unofficial art exhibits in Moscow."... "His departure [from the USSR] was sanctioned by Evgeny Primakov, a long-time KGB official and a future Head of the Foreign Intelligence Service. The fact that during those years Simis was supervised by Primakov is known from the interview given some later by Simis himself: "I spent the first few years of my professional career at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations, working for Evgeny Maksimovich Primakov." An FBI approached him during his application for citizenship and said: "This folder contains written statements of people alleging that you are a KGB agent...". He then advised president Nixon on the matters related to the USSR. "the CNI headed by him became the center of pro-Kremlin propaganda at the heart of the United States – in Washington, D.C." He then rabidly supported Putin and his policies, he helped a lot to Butina, and so on and so on. Finally, it tells:  All of the Kremlin guys were sent to Simes. He was not only spying but brainwashing the Washington elite" My very best wishes (talk) 00:42, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

text: P.S. This is not just a single publication by Felshtinsky. There are also Piontkovsky and others. My very best wishes (talk) 23:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Felshtinsky, Maria Butina, & "Dimitri Simes fled to Moscow" for "Big Game" 

message: Reply to this. I think that ref is really on the topic and qualify as WP:RS. It makes a reference to this and another publication by Yuri Felshtinsky who is a well known and reputable historian (see here). Two last refs were publications by a news agency run by this man. It is actually famous and highly reputable in the Russian and Ukrainian-speaking world. All of them are definitely RS. Saying that, I think it would be safer to provide an explicit attribution, to Felshtinsky, Andrei Piontkovsky, etc., whoever was the author. That is exactly what I did. Well, nothing hurts to include a few more sources. I can do it later. My very best wishes (talk) 20:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: :@X1.I can see that you know the subject. Why would not you improve this page? My very best wishes (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: @mvbw, I can't say I really do "know" the subject.  I don't have much time to make sense of this right now.  I'll make time to read the discussion later, and hopefully I can give more constructive input.  It would be helpful for Tv503 to show-up since they added ref.  X1\ (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines issue cleared-up? X1\ (talk) 22:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, sure. My very best wishes (talk) 02:04, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: an aside

message: I'm getting uneasy about "handler".  The sole source, it seems, is Felshtinsky's article (the other sources that have been discussed lead back to Felshtinsky).  Even if we accept that "gordonua.com" is a reliable source (and I've got questions about that), I wonder about the specifics.  Felshtinsky asserts that Butina named Simes in testimony connected with the investigation of her as a spy/foreign agent.  (I do think this New Republic piece is interesting in connection with the idea of her being a spy or not.)  I'm struggling to figure out how Felshtinsky would get access to testimony that doesn't seem to be in the public domain. I'm not saying I'm confident the assertion is wrong -- but I do think it's worth entertaining some doubts.  I'll keep digging...  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 09:25, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: We are clearly giving an attribution, but removing/changing one word should not really matter if the issue was properly described on the page, i.e.  we need a description of the connection between the subject and Butina - per sources. Right now this is not really described. I can fix it later when I have more time and you are done. My very best wishes (talk) 23:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: further

message: Moved to here. X1\ (talk) 20:27, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree with removal of content sourced to Examiner. However, the report itself is a good source, and it tells a lot about it. Why would not you include something yourself? My very best wishes (talk) 01:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  my Discussion here was more a response to User:Vlad Rutenburg (see my ESs at the article history).  I was saying keep the Mueller Report link (showing contents association), rm the problematic reference.  I hope to get to more contributions here as time permits.   X1\ (talk) 20:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  in ''Mueller Report''