Talk:Boiler

message: Hi I have just worked on a single pipe central heating system ,
Drained down , did my first fix for new rad 
Filled back up ( combi boiler to 1 bar 
Water came o but I can’t get the air out of the cr teal heating ,
It comes in on the flo but then cuts out ,
Assuming air block ,
How do I remove the air please 
Regards :Andy  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:5A0C:E300:E417:9610:338E:F08F (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

message: I added an applications section with a brief overview since the article seemed to jump right into types of boilers without really describing what they do. I also created some definitions and added a few boiler accessories.
--johntindale (talk) 22:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Added "Applications" and some definitions

message: Should this article be merged with steam generator? —Mulad (talk) 20:20, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
*No, as a boiler does not have to generate steam.  [anon]
*No: similar, but not precisely the same.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: How is it ensured that enough air gets into a domestic boiler for gas to burn with a blue flame, whilst at the same time heat loss is minimised? --Username132 19:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  combustion air mix 

message: I'm not very happy with the supercritical boiler section, it's both a poor definition, and seems to imply the sole reason for supercritical boilers is to help the earth? So this needs to be redone entirely.--Sgstarling 20:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  supercritical boiler 

message: i think we must talking about types of boiler for whose dont know
I agree. Such as oil-fired boiler; gas-fired boiler or electric boiler. Also it it good to include the different applications of boilers.1234louise (talk) 20:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  i think we must talking about types of boiler 

message: Why does it say woodburning stoves are popular in North America?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.209.209 (talk) 12:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hydronic central heating 

message: I really appreciate the inclusion of pictures, but wish their captions were in English since this is the English version of Wikipedia.--P Todd 21:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done one two all three. --Old Moonraker 23:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian Caption Pictures 

message: In the water tube boiler (hot water), water tubes above the feed water drum are depositted thin layer of ashes in light colour. Would like to know this is because of over heating or due to quality of fuel we are using.
Currently using furnace oil of 1500 red wood viscosity.
--Uthpalaherath 05:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert view please 

message: What sort of boiler is the diagram next to the overview  intended to represent (or symbolise)? It looks like nothing I have ever seen.--John of Paris 13:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's one from Babcock's which shares some of the characteristics , although the doubling-back firetubes lead from an internal, rather than an external, firebox. At the least, it's a real-life example of the closed chamber from which the tubes return (which I wasn't aware of either). An illustration of a more common type, and possibly not as stylised, would definitely suit the article better.--Old Moonraker 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overview diagram

message: The "Steam generation power plant" image in the "Supercritical Steam Generators" section (  ) is a densely detailed construction drawing of some kind and it is completely incomprehensible because it does not label the various sections and equipment items. It should be deleted until someone adds labeling of the various sections and equipment items. Perhaps those sections and equipment items could at least be numbered and then a list be added to the drawing naming each of the numbered items. 
If there are no valid objections to the suggested deletion within the next week, I will go ahead and delete the image. Please comment. - mbeychok 04:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Adds nothing to understanding of the topic as it stands. Please delete! --Old Moonraker 06:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Steam generation power plant " image is incomprehensible and should be deleted 

message: I am not a HVAC engineer. I don't really understand the operating principle of the Hartford Loop, but I do know it helps to prevent boiler explosions due to the tank going dry due to a leak, and makeup water hitting the red-hot metal causing a sudden massive steam release that blows the boiler sky-high.
A new article or an addition to this one discussing the Hartford Loop would be a useful addition to Wikipedia. Any HVAC experts want to step up and add it? DMahalko (talk) 15:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article or discussion of the Hartford Loop? 

message: I found this Geograph image of a 'soil sterilisation boiler'. This one looks very similar to a conventional portable engine (boiler and firebox), but with no moving parts on top, and the pipework supports the description given. The Geograph steam engine guru, Chris Allen, hints that there are other photos of similar plant on the site, but a simple search did not reveal any. -- EdJogg (talk) 00:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More images

message: At some stage I'm going to import some appropriately licensed images from flickr of working industrial boilers: Cornish, Lancashire or similar. Example here: this contributor has uploaded a good selection from which to choose. As pics of working, cared-for items, rather than of stripped and unclad relics out of context, do editors think that they should take over in the lead para? The disadvantage would be that the internal features are less obvious.--Old Moonraker (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a boiler expert. I added an image today because I think it is more in keeping with what you might find in many older buildings in the U.S. I think some good images of industrial boilers would be great but boilers used for domestic heating need to be represented, too. (Not to say that the image I added couldn't be replaced if a better one is found.) The key is to ensure that the images are in context and that a good text-to-image balance is maintained. The rest could be handled by placing a link to their location on Wikimedia Commons. →Wordbuilder (talk) 19:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Seems like the most prominent early and B.C.E. use would have been in the Roman Baths and the like, and yet they are not even mentioned in this article. I think that should be rectified. PyroGamer (talk) 22:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs section on ancient use 

message: Following-on from discussions immediately above, I have applied merge-to/-from banners to Boiler (steam generator) and Boiler; discussion being directed to this section.
As stated above, I do not feel that I have the subject knowledge necessary to complete this merge, only that 'something needs to be done'!(Applying the merge tags allows me to tidy my ToDo list!) -- EdJogg (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Merge

message: Boiler#Superheated steam boilers
. Can some one take go at this?? ?? Peter Horn 21:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Improved link. Peter Horn 21:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual conversions |°C|°F|  

message: Boiler#Supercritical steam generators
 .
Can some one morph this into  similar to ? Peter Horn 22:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Or ? Why does |abbr=on not work?? Peter Horn 22:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual conversion 

message: * Another user made note of the absence of an article on the subject of the Hartford Loop. It is likely that this is a notable enough topic to have its own article (or at least a section in this one). It is just a simple matter of having an expert who can generate a reasonable contribution on the matter (with references). bwmcmaste (talk) 04:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  (2)Article or discussion of the Hartford Loop? 

message: Someone has recently added the term 'Boiler ticket' to Glossary of UK railway terminology (under 'B' :o) ) and I am very conscious that my copy-editing of the definition is inadequate. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that the term needs describing properly within WP, and boiler is the most obvious place to put it. Anyone care to have a go?
: Stick it into Glossary_of_boiler_terminology?
It may be that the meaning relating to steam boiler safety certificates is a purely British thing, but the term is widely used within heritage railway articles at WP (and websites generally).
While googling for a reference ('required' for the UK rail glossary page!) I discovered the term also appears to be used for a similar certificate, but applying to boiler maintenance skills -- presumably only workers with the required 'ticket'/certificate are permitted to undertake boiler work. This needs to be mentioned too. (Seems to apply to US/Australia ?)
There is a third meaning, usually found in slang dictionaries (and which I don't fully understand - I get the 'boiler' bit, but why 'ticket'?), but thankfully the company web filter would not have allowed me to investigate beyond the search results!!!
: the third is presumably a relative of that other well-known engineering term, "Chitty Bang Bang" Andy Dingley (talk) 14:06, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Boiler ticket]] ? 

message: Can we please discuss this, rather than moving the page around every few seconds. I can't even keep track of where the talk: page is, let alone contribute to this. 8-(
My suggestion:
* Boiler - the disambig. It doesn't matter if there are 1,000 links to the term. If this was a primary topic article at this name, chances are that 500 would be wrong, rather than 1,000 merely not diisambig'ed
* Boiler (heating)
* Boiler (steam generation)
Ask the random "Kid on the Clapham Omnibus" what a boiler is and you'll get an answer that I suspect is rather like, "I've no idea, but Thomas the Tank Engine has one". Ask their parents and they'll probably think of the gas boiler for their central heating. There's no clear primary topic between these two. I don't much care about the naming, but the bare Boiler shouldn't imply one of these types over the other.
We should not base any moves on the quality of the articles - the two lead articles are both crap. In particular the lead image of the "heat" article is so unclear as to which type it is that it's labelled as  a "steam tractor". Andy Dingley (talk) 10:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Putting aside the Limp Bizkit song, there are two articles listed as being ambiguous to the term at Boiler (disambiguation). One of these refers to a boiler as a device for heating a liquid to the boiling point in an enclosed space, and the other refers to a boiler as a device for heating a liquid to the boiling point in an enclosed space (as a means of generating power). No matter how you slice it, a boiler is a device for heating a liquid to the boiling point in an enclosed space, irrespective of the use to which this heated liquid is put. Therefore, per WP:DABCONCEPT, the terms are not truly ambiguous, but are merely different aspects of the broad concept of a device for heating a liquid to the boiling point in an enclosed space, and this term primarily refers to such devices generally. We could write a new article about the general concept, but it seems to be most generally covered by the current content of this page. bd2412 T 12:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No.  Not even wrong  Andy Dingley (talk) 12:46, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you prepared to address the WP:DABCONCEPT policy, or do you intend to argue that the Limp Bizkit song is the primary topic for this term? bd2412 T 14:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I'm not - because you're spouting nonsense. DABCONCEPT would be a particularly unhelpful route to follow here. No-one here (excluding yourself) is even thinking in those terms. Besides which, if my domestic gas boiler ever started to boil water, I'd switch it off promptly and fix it. These "boilers" are not intended to boil anything. They supply hot water, not steam. Stretching this to some spurious commonality, such that the articles need to be merged, is ignorant nonsense. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  So basically what you are saying is that the commonality is at a higher level of abstraction than I have proposed. Please note that I have not referred to boiling water, but to "heating a liquid". Even if the commonality were nothing more than "device which heats", that is a concept capable of being discussed in an article. We do not shy away from writing articles because their level of abstractness makes the subject matter difficult to articulate. bd2412 T 15:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Participants from the related Wikiprojects should focus their efforts on making this article comprehensive to the general concept, as required by WP:DABCONCEPT. This is policy, and for a good reason - it avoids exactly the problem identified above, where this page would become a constant major headache for disambiguators, and a constant target of efforts to implement exactly this solution. bd2412 T 14:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renames (again) 

message: There was a nice long section on Types of Boilers. Unfortunately, it was copied from this site which is subject to copyright.
Someone might want to use it as a resource to add, in your own words, some discussion about types of boilers.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:48, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright review. 

message: three pass boilers are the most papular steam boilers in iran that they produced more than 5000 in a year.
we use bs 2790 as a their standard and use st35.8 for it's tube.
is it equal in all over the word???
i think it is en 12957 that use in en standard.
is it true???  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.253.49.208 (talk) 15:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  three pass boiler 

message: The second paragraph of the Safety section ends with what looks like a misformatted reference to a book called The Locomotive. It's not clear what was intended; would someone with a better grasp of the material than me try to clean it up? -- Dan Griscom (talk) 12:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange almost-reference in Safety section 

message: Why the side-trip to Cleator Moor? Kortoso (talk) 21:38, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I believe iron from Low Moor Ironworks was also popular for boilers. Biscuittin (talk) 17:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleator Moor 

message: I have created a new article Boiler (water heating). I hope this will help with separating the steam and hot water functions. Biscuittin (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The article Boiler is almost entirely about steam boilers so I suggest it be merged with Boiler (power generation). Biscuittin (talk) 21:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  We can create a subhead in this article for ==Power generation==, and preserve the single title for WP:DABCONCEPT purposes. bd2412 T 21:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objection but perhaps we should wait for some more comments. Biscuittin (talk) 21:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename (3) 

message: Why is there zero mention of steam fittings, or piping, which transports the steam from the boiler to the engine? There must be interesting details about such a topic, yet "Steam pipe" redirects to "District heating", and the disambiguation page only mentions "District heating", and "A pipe used to transport steam from the boiler of a locomotive to the pistons". Pretty sure there is more too it than that! The steam pipe on a locomotive is A steam pipe, not THE steam pipe. I feel this is a neglected topic, in light of the massive and complex steam-transport systems used in many facilities and in steam ships, which used steam for a variety of tasks. Steam fittings and pipes had to withstand massive pressure and thermal stresses in some cases, and often had to include flexible joints (such as articulated steam locomotives). And, on top of that, steam pipes are also used for heating systems with independent boilers; you don't need to be connected to a district steam heat plant to use steam pipes to heat your house or building!.45Colt 19:57, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steam fittings 

message: A boiler is not called a furnace in North America. A furnace in North America usually generates heat via natural gas, although there are some furnaces that still use oil to do that. No water involved in it at all. In North America you can also find electric baseboard heat & radiators in older homes, the latter of which might be more akin to a boiler as they generate steam heat. A better term for a boiler would be the standard North American hot water tanks, or perhaps the newer tankless on-demand hot water heaters. Neither of which actually boil the water, though some older hot water tanks have adjustable settings that could set the temperature fairly high. Newer ones don't go above 110F so that people don't get scalded in the shower or bath. 
At any rate, I think the sentence that equates a boiler to a North American furnace doesn't cut it. ScarletRibbons (talk) 10:52, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: In the US, not all furnaces are boilers (warm air systems rather than hot water are common), but boilers are still called furnaces. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Furnace in North America? 

message: Article currently reads in part The term "boiler" should not be used for a supercritical pressure steam generator, as no "boiling" occurs in this device.
This claim is unreferenced, so may be OR but is in any case purism. It should not be made in Wikipedia's voice.
Note that neither wikt:boiler nor wikt:steam boiler support this prescriptive claim. Andrewa (talk) 14:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible purism