Talk:List of world records in athletics

message: What does this article need to reach (perhaps) featured standard?
*We need a section about the movement to strike all world records before year 2000.
*Pictures?
Punkmorten 20:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think maybe under "non standard events" is the right place for these times.Montell 74 (talk) 12:31, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs 

message: it would be interesting to include a list along the lines of one here, where the winners are listed by species. The "World records in athletics" title doesn't specify humans, after all! 131.111.220.6 14:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, "athletics" does imply humans. The term "athletics" implies running or fielding events, either road or track, by humans. Regardless, athletics is a human sport, even if animals can theoretically participate. Mipchunk 19:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  animal records 

message: There are currenty (20-July-2008) times listed in the article for the Two miles race, for Men's and Women's Outdoor and Men's Indoor, but not Womens' Indoor. But should the Two Miles even be listed here? It is not a world record kept by the IAAF (or any other international body), so the "record holder" can only be determined by examining unofficial lists. The best Two Mile performances are considered to be World Best times not World Records.
The same is true for the 5 kilometres road race, 8 kilometres road race, 10 mile road race, etc. Performances at these distances are also World Best times, not records. Does anyone have any objection if we remove the Two Miles from this page? The Two miles will still have it's own page of course. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 03:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Two Miles

message: I added videos for the women's 1500 and 10,000 WRs. As most of you will know, videos of those remarkable Chinese are hard to come by and the quiality isn't as I'd like - just a few snippets amongst chinese documantary programs. The 3,000 WR of 8:06.1 is also shown very briefly in the 1500 link.
Does anyone have have access to higher quality footage or even full races? They're obviously out there somewhere.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.170.233 (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  WR videos. 

message: An IP editor added these to the list of non standard events.  It was obviously out of format but these marks seem legitimate.  If nobody gets to it before I do, I'll research these later but I don't have time now.
Add.men One Hour indoor 18.796 Erik Bergquist (Sve) Stoccolma 2-3-67 /Marathon indoor 2.27.21 Michael Wardian (USA) Arlington 01-07-2010     60 yards Hurdles 6.82 Renaldo Nehemiah (USA) Dallas 30-01-82
Trackinfo (talk) 22:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: That should be Usain Bolt's split times 5.4?+ and 6.31+ seconds (during his WR run 9.58 in Berlin 2009).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.100.20.16 (talk) 09:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You yourself are making estimates.  Show some legitimate statistics, a source making the calculations, and how they did it.  There are groups who have set up laser timing at 10 meter intervals at major races like this.  Did they do it during Bolt's run?  Are those results posted anywhere?  Wikipedia does not post one person's guesses, opinions or conjectures.  In this list, when we deviate from the posted work of the official statisticians of the sport, we need to back it with a reputable source.  Who said it and how did they derive their calculation? Trackinfo (talk) 09:50, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fastest 50 and 60 meter splits 

message: Hi why is Allyson Felix listed as the fastest time in the 200m while Flo Jo's fastest time was 21.34?? That was an official time so I'm very confused as to why it isn't list here when this is world records including times run in the olympics.Mcelite (talk) 14:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Notice Allyson Felix is listed as the fastest in the non IAAF World Record events for the straight 200, as opposed to the World Record event around a turn on a track, which is set by Florence Griffith Joyner.  That whole section was created to differentiate various, legacy, non-standard events that have been run over the decades (particularly for men).  While the conduct of these demonstration races are made by well meaning meet directors, these races are not necessarily conducted to the same standards, nor does the "best" go through the same scrutiny of an official IAAF ratified world record.  Felix set her best in a race on a specially constructed track on a city street. Trackinfo (talk) 16:50, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay I see that makes sense. Just checking. Have a good day. :)Mcelite (talk) 21:02, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  200 meter for women's 

message: Add. women 2000 m steeplechase indoor 6.06.11 Yelena Orlova (Rus) Moskva 12-02-2012
:::Done Trackinfo (talk) 23:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Indoor women's 2000m steeplechase

message: I have removed the Video column. Most links were to Youtube and most of those I checked breach WP:COPYVIO. It is unlikely that most records have a publicly available non-copyvio video so the web, so including the column will just invite people to add illegal ones. jnestorius(talk) 10:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: videos have been restored since. I think they should be removed again. Many of those videos are clearly copyright violations (WP:YT) that we shouldn't link to. The rest are cleraly WP:ELLIST that should be removed. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:17, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video 

message: I added the 7 day treadmill world record  it is a verified non-IAAF World Record event. Why was it reverted? 90.193.161.157 (talk) 19:58, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the governing body of the sport, the IAAF, does not recognize the category. If we open the door to this record, why not also also the myriad records for, say, non-metric distances? Potato sack records? Tossing a stone? A telephone pole? Standing long and high jumps? How about establishing "records" for distances not recognized by the IAAF, like the 20-metre dash? We could construct a page 10x the length of this, though its relevance to sport would be greatly diminished IMHO. Canada Jack (talk) 20:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Canada Jack,  with the exception of Standing events.  We actually have an IAAF legacy to three standing events that were held in the Olympics a hundred years ago.  By the way, the Stone Toss does also have a home in the Highland games.  This "device" based endurance record however has noting to do with events held on a running track, in a public arena, or under an IAAF affiliate's jurisdiction.  It belongs in something related to Guinness World Records but has no association to the sport umbrella of Athletics. Trackinfo (talk) 21:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treadmill record 

message: The article needs to be clearer that a number of these records, especially some women's records, are viewed with great suspicion by many people. 81.159.109.127 (talk) 11:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question (though the organization is known as IAAF for a couple more months before the name changes).  Has anybody beaten Rick Wohlhuter's 1:44.1, June 8, 1974? Trackinfo (talk) 06:21, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious records 

message: I'd fix this myself, but my coding skills are suspect... The women's marathon record listed is missing the IAAF-recognized "women-only" mark also set by Radcliffe. The IAAF recognizes TWO wolrd records in this event.  The record listed currently is the "mixed" race record, someone needs to add the "women's-only" record. Canada Jack (talk) 20:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure the layout is perfect but at least the situation is explained.  I tried to force narrowing the space allotted but women's event names are still significantly wider than men's to the detriment of the information columns to the right. Trackinfo (talk) 21:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Thanks - looks good to me. btw, while we are at it, we should probably remove Mutai's Boston run as the new pending record is faster - and Mutai's 2:03:02 was never ratified for anything so it can be replaced by the new faster unratified time! Canada Jack (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Women's marathon world record is missing

message: I have moved the main references to "Sources" from "External links". The "Refs" column in the tables is not the main reference, the IAAF official report is the main reference (for IAAF-recognised events). A news report the day after a record is broken cannot prove that the performance was ever ratified, or that it has not subsequently been broken elsewhere; therefore this supplementary reference is only useful for details not available on the IAAF site, such as the particular meeting at which the record was broken. For the same reason, all the current non-IAAF-event references are inadequate. What is needed is a single reliable source that maintains up-to-date lists of non-IAAF records; maybe  the Association of Track and Field Statisticians' most recent annual has some, or the website of one of its members.
Also, I think the  links should not be in the Refs column. I deleted the separate "Videos" column in 2012; if there are enough non-WP:COPYVIO links it could be restored, but using <ref> tags as the   output is too wide for the table.
jnestorius(talk) 13:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: The article says In other disciplines this issue does not arise, since it is practically impossible to deliberately break a record by a small margin, except in the high jump. I don't see why this wouldn't be possible in the long distance races by careful pacing, or the decathlon and heptathlon, by pacing the final race (assuming of course the athlete would be capable of 'smashing' the record, as stated in the text). Gap9551 (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is of course possible, but I don 't know any existing case. In the multi-events this will probably not happen as you can only do 2-3 competitions a year, and you never know if you really can do better in future. Nico (talk) 10:58, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, in long distance running specifically, you just don't get one more immediate attempt if another athlete manages to beat you just before the finish line.  Plus, by not keeping your distance from potential competition you risk helping someone else as their transient pacer or windshield.  Long distance world records tend to be set on IAAF RR Label events which require certain minimum elite competition.  So the temptation for trying this is essentially non-existent. Lalaith (talk) 12:01, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking a record by a minimum amount in other events than the pole vault 

message: There has been a back-and-forth with jnestorius over some changes he put into the "criteria" section. He added a note on road races records which mentioned mixed-race records are kept, saying that an attempt to change this was pushed back after protests over losing Paula Radcliffe's 2:15 record. While the original source didn't address that point - the rule was pushed back because of protests, it does discuss Radcliffe's particular record though - this is nevertheless trivia and of no particular relevance. This was a rule change reverted - one of perhaps 100s of rule changes which affected the various events, and there is nothing here to indicate why this rule change was more earth-shattering than any of the others. As for the relay record, more trivia, which doesn't even apply to a current record and which, if it did, more appropriately would be a note to the actual record.
As for the indoor track record point, you are simply wrong on this one. Sure, most indoor tracks have small, banked surfaces. But there are indoor 400-metre unbanked tracks. There'sone in Anchorage, another in Ottawa.  And since there is now no rule excluding facilities with roofs from records, a world record could therefore be set in one of the complainant stadiums. Canada Jack (talk) 03:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia in criteria section; Indoor track records 

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message: Read my comment properly. There're too many doping cases in athletics. You either list all of them or nothing. You can't update 100m only. This is not right. And don't forget about East Germans. Yes, officially their results aren't annuled but we all know that they were juiced. Awaiting your response. Cskamoscow100 (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. I'm not of your opinion. First it's not a bit necessary to list all doping cases. What special doping case do you mean? The world record article just mentions a few annulled times better than the actual records. World record progression articles just mention annulled but former records and yes its needed for all progression articles, not only 100m. Do you know another annulled former world record? So please add or tell. At least what a statement about East Germans? Are you serious? What about the Russian, American, Chinese, Kenyan.... What do "we" know?? Do you "know" that Usain Bolt is spotlessly clean? Sorry Cskamoscow100, but we know nothing. Wikipedia is the possibility to give all information that is possible. For everyone here is to see that records were annulled and why. To delete is the last way wikipedians should act. Montell 74 (talk) 16:17, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it. One question: what database do you use to find all the former WRs (especially those that are set not in the World Championships or Olympics)? Cskamoscow100 (talk) 21:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: First source of official record progression is IAAF. So you can use IAAF Statistic Handbooks. But IAAF delete doping cases (like you do), so you can't use recent statistic handbook (London 2017), better Berlin 2009, shanghai 2011... I think it's very improbable, that there is a former world record that is not listed here. Annulment of doping records we know since the late 80's, so which record should be forgotten here?Montell 74 (talk) 23:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say that. Just interesting where you get all this information. Cskamoscow100 (talk) 18:10, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. You wrote "There're too many doping cases in athletics. You either list all of them or nothing. You can't update 100m only." This indicates that there a missing cases in other progression articles (200m, 400m etc.).Montell 74 (talk) 18:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I stand by that point. You can't track them all. But I decided not to argue with 'you' because it seems pointless to me. Instead I ask where you get the information regarding junior, national and other records. Cskamoscow100 (talk) 18:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

text: So my thesis istead of is, that all doping cases which dates back completely listed. Cases, which will be uncovered in future, will to be marked too.Montell 74 (talk) 19:40, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, I suspect that you might be biased in favour of East Germany. The fact that you question the existence of a doping program in this defunct country is saddening. There's a separate section in this article about the development of state-sponsored doping in East German sports. I think you need to read it. Cskamoscow100 (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know that Usain Bolt may legally sue you for accusing him of being a drug cheat? What you're saying is horrendous. 'Do you "know" that Usain Bolt is spotlessly clean?' That is your quote. Cskamoscow100 (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Your inability to share your sources is also disturbing. Your behaviour contradicts to what a good Wikipedian should do (be helpful, share sources and so on). Cskamoscow100 (talk) 19:18, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Rule 261 was changed. This events aren't IAAF World Record events anymore. For both men and women. Instead the 5 km (road) is a new IAAF World Record event. You can look up the changes in the last offical List of 
IAAF World Records on the page of the indian athletics Federation. 
Xorp (talk) 11:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the 5km to both men and women outdoor lists and moved the other distances to world bests. I've also added the women's only time for the Ekiden/road relay. 83.55.221.102 (talk) 11:52, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  15 km (road), 20 km (road), 25 km (road) and 30 km (road) aren't IAAF World Record events anymore! 

message: Correct me if I am wrong, but I see the 2,000m indoor world record listed here - held by Genzebe Dibaba - despite it not being an indoor world record event (though this mark is the World Record, most of which are set outdoors). Shouldn't this be moved to the section showing World's Bests? Canada Jack (talk) 03:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's indoor 2,000m world record 

message: I see that the IAAF has ratified Yomif Kejelcha's indoor mile record.... page needs an update.  Canada Jack (talk) 14:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Men's Indoor Mile record ratified 

message: In the section on world records in nonmetric units, i was surprised to see nothing on the half mile. why is this?Rich (talk) 03:59, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question (though the organization is known as IAAF for a couple more months before the name changes).  Has anybody beaten Rick Wohlhuter's 1:44.1, June 8, 1974? Trackinfo (talk) 06:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And has anyone beaten Mary Decker Slaney’s record of 2:02.4?Rich (talk) 22:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non iiaf world record half mile  

message: Why do we have multiple records for one event? World record is just one and it is confussing to have several lines for the same event...
Marathon (men): three marks are listed, two of which will never be ratified because they were set in non-IAAF complying races. I would just erase those.
5k road (men): similarly, there are four marks here... just keep the official one.
Half marathon (women): same case.
3000 m steeplechase (men): why keep Boulami's mark if it was erased from the rankings because of doping violations. I would just list Shaheen's mark.
pole vault (men): just keep Duplantis' latest record with a note indicating that is awaiting ratification.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trantor2312 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes World Athletics does not ratify some performances for various reasons; this happened recently with several pending indoor records. For this reason, I think it is better to keep official records on the list, because the new ones may never become actual records. As for performances rejected by World Athletics (for doping or any other reasons), I would actually be happy removing them. The only problem is that some people might remember those performances and wonder why they are not in this list; as it is now, that person would immediately find the reason.--Gorpik (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple records for one event 

message: Someone should do the honours and update the page.... here is the link to IAAF/World Athletics: https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/kosgei-marathon-world-record-ratified Canada Jack (talk) 16:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: --Gorpik (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's marathon and Men's indoor 4 x 400 records ratified 

message: I've twice had to revert the new pending world record of Joshua Cheptegei in the 5,000m as several editors in good faith have removed Kenenisa Bekele’s record and replaced it with Cheptegei's even though Bekele's record still is the official world record, until the ratification procedure is completed. [] Could someone do the honours and add the new record as a pending record, retaining the old one? Canada Jack (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  5,000 m world record needs update, with new pending mark added to existing record as per ratification procedure 

message: Once again, an editor has jumped the gun with the new 1-hour women's world record. (...and we may get the same on the men's side...) The old record IS STILL THE WORLD RECORD until the new mark is ratified, so as with other examples on the page, the new mark can be added with the "pending" identification, the old mark stays on the page until World Athletics ratifies the new mark (which usually takes a few months). Canada Jack (talk) 18:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid this happens all the time, and the chances for people who do it to read the Talk page before editing are slim. I think we better fix those edits and get on with our lives :)--Gorpik (talk) 12:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankly, I'm too lazy most of the time to do it myself... Canada Jack (talk) 21:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here we go again - any new world record is PENDING until World Athletics says otherwise 

message: In the list I see various ultramarathon records that are not recognised by World Athletics. Only the 100 km (road) (source) and the 50 km (road) (source) seem to be currently ratified as world records by WA. Shouldn't therefore the other ultramarathon records in the lists be indicated as 'not ratified or later rescinded by World Athletics' (pinkish background of row)? Cheers Mill 1 (talk) 19:32, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you need to take another look. The non-WA events are all in their own separate list. Best performances in non-WA World Record events. If by error one or more are listed in the wrong list, please move it to the appropriate list. BFG (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I wasn't looking the straight; the ultramarathon records I mentioned are already in the appropiate World best tables. Sorry for the confusion. Mill 1 (talk) 10:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial [[ultramarathon]] records not indicated as such 

message: Hello, the tables are very informative but awkwardly laid out. Surely when consulting it, a reader will wish to see the name of the record holder immediately after the relevant event ‐ and not to have to scroll across infuriatingly to do so. The average speed, height, distance, etc. is important information bit in he wrong place.
This is especially relevant on a mobile phone, which I believe most people now use fir net use. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the most important info (record holder, performance) should be in the first columns. I propose moving the Notes column just before the References, and move the Average Speed somewhere near the end of the table. This would leave Event - Performance (incl. Wind) - Athlete - Nationality - Date at the beginning of the table, and everything else afterwards.--Gorpik (talk) 09:36, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I can only encourage you to WP:BEBOLD. In addition, I think this list could benefit a lot from becoming a WP:Wikidata object. This would make it much easier to update and maintain in multiple languages. BFG (talk) 15:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presentation of Records 

message: I've not seen anything official anywhere, but it looks like Crouser's 23.38 will not stand as the World Record and Indoor World Record. It's no longer on the year's lists, and WA no longer has it as a pending world record on their relevant lists. But as I said, I've seen nothing official. Canada Jack (talk) 15:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still listed here https://www.worldathletics.org/records/by-category/world-records as "Pending ratification", which is expected. GoPats (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see Crouser's performance there either; only the 3000 m and pole vault are pending ratification. I've gone to Crouser's page in the WA web and that performance has no score attached and an IRM remark; I don't know what it can mean. Well, since World Athletics always includes a section on ratified records in their newsletters, we may find an explanation in the next one. Gorpik (talk) 16:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Look again, GoPats, it's not on either the indoor or outdoor list, pending or otherwise. And Duplantis's more recent 6.22i is on both. Canada Jack (talk) 21:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I see Crouser's 23.83 is back on the page with a background indicating it won't be ratified. The note indicates why it won't be an overall World Record, but doesn't say why won't it be ratified as the Indoor World Record. Is there a source for this? And if we are to include on the indoor record list, we should probably include it in the overall record list as it would have been a record, it seems, save for that. Canada Jack (talk) 01:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just added the improvements you suggest. I did not add a source because I could not find one; we usually don't add sources for the non-ratification reasons, but I think we should. If we can find them; WA tends not to keep those things in their website, and they are difficult to find elsewhere. Gorpik (talk) 09:52, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

text: I have read a source in Spanish explaining that the throwing circle was sligtly raised above the ground level, so the line between the throwing and landing points was steeper than the allowed maximum of 0.1 % downwards. When I get an English language source, I'll add it. Gorpik (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ref.: No April Fools’ Gag — Crouser’s 76-8½ Nixed. Track1News (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, that seals it. We need to remove Crouser's marks from the lists. Just the 23.38, of course, fortunately he is still the WR and WIR holder! And, unlike in the cases where a mark is not counted for wind or a drug infraction, or illegal pacing etc yet we still show it, the issues here were the non-level field and the bigger throwing ring, so the measurement is not comparable. Canada Jack (talk) 22:40, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed both Crouser unratifiable records for the 23.38 he threw earlier this year. Unlike with, say, a drug suspension or a mixed-national relay, where the time and distance run is not in dispute, the distance thrown isn't comparable as the field wasn't level within requirements, and the throwing circle was too big. No more than including a mark for the 100 m run over a 99 m distance. Canada Jack (talk) 00:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crouser's 23.38 no longer on WA lists 

message: I recently added a line for the performance by the University of Arkansas that exceeds the Women's record for the indoor 4 x 4.  I realise the mark is unratifiable due to mixed nationalities in the team and so I coloured it in pink.  My update was deleted with a comment that such a performance does not comply with WA rules for records (I'm well aware of this).  If such a performance is not to be listed on this page (which would be a shame as it is surely of some interest), we should be consistent and remove all other performances that don't comply with WA rules for records, such as requirements for doping controls or assisted road races. Ianb GB (talk) 08:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be added as it is interesting information. Someone may read about this performance, then come to this page and wonder why it is not listed as a record. Gorpik (talk) 09:07, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment - I'll wait a couple of days for any more feedback Ianb GB (talk) 18:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Because it is not a record, it's not even world best (according to World Athletics nomenclature), contrary to US collegiate magazines.  Add this performance - I see that we have mixed nationality men's relays included (and they shouldn't). But contrary to what you wrote this is a different case than those mentioned. I can take Salwa Eid Naser, Shaunae Miller-Uibo, Marileidy Paulino, Britton Wilson and Femke Bol and start rewriting the record books any day: indoors and out. You have to understand that this result is NCAA specific as relays are national "by design" and outside of the collegiate world no one is interested in the mark achieved. I can have much better time with athletes I mentioned any time. Track1News (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to agree with you, Track1, but Ianb has a point - this is not handled consistently. Those athletes toed the line with the knowledge this couldn't be a record - much as Eliud Kipchoge did when he ran his sub-2:00 marathon. Yet we list the latter. I suggest that we put on the list with a colour code performances that, save for a failed instrument like a wind-gauge, or lack of drug test (or failure thereof) would have set a world record. For other marks like the mixed-nations relay, or Kipchoge's completely artificial record set-up for his sub-2 hour marathon, we insert a note somewhere. Canada Jack (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of records - looks like we should remove Crouser's 23.38 as it's been removed from the WA lists. Which means it won't be ratified. Maybe once we know what the issue with the performance was we could put it in - with the appropriate colour-code. Canada Jack (talk) 19:46, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the 4x400 Mixed nationalities could be listed under 'Best performances in non-WA World Record events'. It would be consistant to move Eliud Kipchus sub-2 marathon there.Nico (talk) 13:58, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This "impossible record run" should be listed here for informational purposes, under WA sanctioned events. I suggest not to over-bureaucratize but to use colour code and declaration.Montell 74 (talk) 12:28, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixed nationality relays 

message: I don't think the indoor field events and the indoor 50/60 metres with and without hurdles should be labelled 'short track' as they are now. (source) – Editør (talk) 21:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The new criterion for WA is that there is a unified ranking/record list for all track & field events (route remains separated), excepting for races run in the ring, which are separated into overall and short track. Distances run on a straight track and field events are unified and should only appear in the overall list. Gorpik (talk) 07:38, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short track 

message: I notice that performances have recently been added for 1600 and 3200, some with a "+" and some without.  Are these actual measured performances or are they estimates from actual performances at 1 mile or 2 miles ?  If they are estimates they probably don't belong in the list. Ianb GB (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  1600 & 3200 metres