Talk:How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000 film)

message: There is a bit of trivia behind this movie... such as the director taking the idea of the world being in a snowflake to a Dr. Seuss book about a world in a speck of dust. --70.58.58.104 (talk) 04:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: Nowhere in this article does it mention that Anthony Hopkins did the narration for this film, and on the Anthony Hopkins wikipedia page it says he narrated "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" not "The Grinch." I changed the article to reflect this. 65.96.38.93 (talk) 02:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast list incomplete

message: I don't know how to suggest mergers or deletions.  There is another article at How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (film) that is pretty much a duplicate of this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkeboy (talk • contribs) 16:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: This Article Should Be Called The Grinch (film) not How The Grinch Stole Christmas! (film)
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:No, it shouldn't. The Grinch isn't the film's name. The full name is How the Grinch Stole Christmas. C Teng [talk] 15:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: I Agree

message: I noticed that the book this was made after was called How the Grinch Stole Christmas! with an "!" at the end, shouldn't the movie title have that too? Stealth (talk) 19:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All the promotional materials for the movie omitted the exclamation point:   Robert K S (talk) 20:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Change?

message: oppose Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: This and The Grinch (film) are clearly duplicates; either one should quite clearly be deleted. The Grinch (film) is the more recent article so I've nominated it for deletion. YeshuaDavid (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge or Deletion proposal 

message: Dr. Seuss The Lorax is coming soon to theatres.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.90.25 (talk) 00:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Seuss Film made to books 

message: I recall there being a large critical backlash about the movie conspicuously side-stepping the anti-materialism message of the original work, including the omission of the verses that deliver the "moral of the story" and a larger than typical wave of merchandising.  If sources could be dug up, I feel this subject would be worthy of some play in the article.
72.12.68.214 (talk) 20:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception - Controversy 

message: WP:FILMPLOT says that a good target for the length of a plot synopsis is 400-700 words. Currently, this article has over 800. So it could use a little trimming. Also, aside from a Box Office Mojo link, it is completely unreferenced. Good sections to get sourced would be "Home media" and "Reception" and probably some of the stuff in the lede paragraph could use it too. Elizium23 (talk) 07:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article improvement needed 

message: Yes, I know Cindy Lou's father is listed in the ending credits as "Lou Lou Who", and her brothers "Drew Lou Who" and "Stu Lou Who". This must have been a lame attempt at a joke by either the screenwriter, or whoever is responsible for creating the end credits. (The joke apparently because the women in the family, Cindy Lou and mom Betty Lou both have the middle name "Lou", and someone thought it would be funny if the men had the same middle name.) But apparently Ron Howard didn't find it funny enough to use it on screen; the characters are simply known as "Lou", "Drew", and "Stu" (not "Lou Lou", "Drew Lou" or "Stu Lou"). I think the plot description needs to reflect the actual onscreen usage. It might be worth pointing out the end-credit joke in the Cast section, but I can't find a reliable source and can't figure out how not to make it sound like original research. JustinTime55 (talk) 17:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lame-ass joke 

message: We need to establish a consensus on whether we should list the mayor's name as "Maywho" or "May Who". The credits list clearly says "May Who", but this shouldn't always be taken as gospel, since the credits also say "Lou Lou Who", "Stu Lou Who" and "Drew Lou Who", which are not at all supported by what is heard in the film's dialogue and seems to be a lame-ass attempt at a joke by the screenwriter. Since we don't hear these in the film, I would guess Ron Howard didn't think too highly of this joke.
The problem is, the paradigm of naming all the Who characters with the last name Who (an invention of Seuss which he had the wisdom of not taking too far, which is required by the more complex plot of this film) defies logic when carried past a certain point. Also, we're not supposed to theorize or speculate beyond what "reliable sources" say; we call that "original research". JustinTime55 (talk) 16:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The entries should be as in the credits (see :WP:FILMCAST), which is the definitive source for this article. How Seuss named them or how they are in any book is not relevant to here as this article is about the film.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 00:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "May Who" or "Maywho"? 

message: I've gone ahead and removed what I believe to be a case of circular reporting.
In particular the cast section said that "Jack Nicholson,[source1] Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Nicolas Cage, Tom Hanks, Tim Curry and Eddie Murphy[source2] were all considered"
The first source is from 2000 and only says that Audrey Geisels agents wrote a letter declaring that "any actor submitted for the Grinch must be of comparable stature to Jack Nicholson, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman." This does not mean that they were considered for the role.
I can find no credible sources on Nicolas Cage, and the addition was made in 2023. Likewise for Tom Hanks (2020) and Tim Curry (also 2020). Some noncredible sources refer to IMDB.
I am also skeptical of whether Eddie Murphy was considered, since he is mentioned along with Jack Nicholson in the article. But the source seems credible, so I'm letting those stay.
QuarksAndElectrons (talk) 22:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed possible circular reporting 

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Media Effects