Talk:List of countries and territories where French is an official language

message: Is "Francophone" properly capitalized or not?  Badagnani 10:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As of now, the article reads:  the noun Francophone (also spelled with a small character 'f') , which is pure contradiction. Which one is correct? Sources would be welcome as well. Zouavman Le Zouave 23:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not contradiction to say something is done both ways. —Tamfang (talk) 17:32, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: How do you make a map of a speaker?! – This strange use of Francophone to translate La Francophonie has also recently infected Sprachraum. —Tamfang (talk) 17:33, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of the francophone 

message: It should be more, try to expand article according to Wikipedia policies with proper citations, if you allow my self I would be happy to help you so and I can certainly help you in expanding it. :) --Faizanalivarya (talk) 01:12, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding required 

message: I've noticed that Bulgaria is listed as a European Francophone nation. This hardly seems right.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.205.167.17 (talk) 10:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgaria? 

message: Shouldn't the title of this page be "List of countries where French is an official language"?  JackofOz 10:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Bamse 00:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And so should New Caledonia, Kerguelen, and Réunion. Aaker (talk) 18:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: I understand that Québec is not an independent country, and it is right that Canada should appear on this list. But then the population figure in the table should also be that of Canada, not that of Québec as is the case right now. I know this may be confusing but there is a very clear disclaimer on top of the table. I am changing that value.
Philippe Magnabosco (talk) 12:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the population figures should indicate only the number of French speakers. This is especially true for Canada, Belgium & Switzerland where French is co-official with other languages. The problem that the sum will be taken as the number of French speakers in the World and that's completely false. If there is no objections I am going to change the figures to reflect numbers of French speakers out of the total population. Bestofmed (talk) 21:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For most of the countries on the list you probably won't be able to get that data - it's probably better to list "pop" and "num speakers" seperately, since for most of the African countries, you'll never get the number of speakers. WilyD 21:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Quebec should not be on the dependent entities list - that's a list for places where the larger country does not have French as an official language, but some smaller part of them does.  French is an official language of the federal government in Canada, so Quebec does not belong on the dependent entities list.  I have removed it. AshleyMorton (talk) 00:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, see, India does not consider French an official language at the national level.  Therefore, if we didn't have Pondicherry, then there wouldn't be any mention of it at all.  Quebec is already included because Canada is there.  If you're going to include Quebec, then you need to include every city in Quebec, as well, also the province of New Brunswick, as well as the cities of Sudbury, Timmins, Ottawa, Cornwall, Saint-Boniface, almost every city in New Brunswick, and probably a couple of hundred more.  With the Aosta Valley, French is NOT a language of Italy, so it's not included.  On the other hand, we do not list all the departments of France, all of the cantons of Switzerland, all the cities and towns of Mali... etc.  You see?  We don't list subnational entities for things that are already on the list as full countries. Until you add every department of France, you shouldn't have Quebec there. AshleyMorton (talk) 03:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  In fact, the odd ones are the French overseas territories.  The argument is that the "France" above is only Metropolitan France, and that the others are separate enough that they're not covered, but it seems a bit silly to me.  I mean, the flag used as a symbol looks mighty similar to me! AshleyMorton (talk) 03:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada/Québec 

message: A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries.  Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Discussion

message: If you take a look at the source document for the number of speakers in countries where French is not official, it's sketchy. Enormous numbers in Bulgaria, Romania...omitted for no apparent reason, ditto the United States. I don't have a better source to propose here, but I used the Wikipedia page as a starter for a research project I'm involved with, and that OIF document is pretty much a non-starter for me, even given the difficulties inherent in language/demographics research. Ethnologue, dated though their numbers are, strikes me as better grounded.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.13.155 (talk) 17:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Data Source for French Speakers 

message: French language has 75 million speakers as of 2007.
However, this "list" has over 120 million speakers in the official section, and over 32 million in the other section. That results about 153 million speakers total, over twice the number in the language article. Oh yes, this is from 2005, maybe 78 million stopped using French as a first language? 82.141.67.203 (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistency within Wikipedia 

message: Hi, I changed the chart to add that France is located in North America, South America, and Africa, taking into account the departements d'outre mer. Hihellowhatsup (talk) 08:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change in the chart 

message: Hi folks. There are a number of listings where the total number of French speakers listed (right-hand column) is less than the number listed in the "French-speakers" column or the one listed in the "partial-French-speakers" column. (Ivory Coast, Rwanda, Guinea, Chad, Haiti, Comoros, etc.) Alternately, there are places where the total number seems wildly inflated compared to the other two (Benin, Switzerland, Seychelles). I don't think I'm getting too picky (I'm not demanding perfect mathematical accord, and I'm more-or-less assuming "N/A" could be anything), but it seems like the numbers should come a bit closer to matching up. Haiti and the Ivory Coast struck me as particularly out of whack. Can anyone help? AshleyMorton (talk) 14:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Math doesn't add up 

message: I think what Fdbgfdgbfdgbfdfdbgfdbdfb is trying to say is that it does not make sense to have the section Countries where French is commonly used but not official on this page.  I agree.  The title of this page is only for where it is an official language.  This section is extraneous and not germane to the page. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Moving forward per WP:SILENCE. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that you're being a bit too literal and finicky. Think about why anyone would want to view this page - they are probably interested in wanting to know in which parts of the world the French language is an important language. You could retitle the article to say LOC where French is an Important or Significant Language, but this doesn't have a very good ring to it. Alternatively, you could have two articles, one for official languages and another for where French is non-official but still important, but this wouldn't really make much sense. If you leave out the section on Where French is Commonly Used, you've compromised the article somewhat, because it is useful for the reader to know that French plays an important role in business and government in the various countries mentioned in this section, the title of the article notwithstanding. --Mrodowicz (talk) 15:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite old, but okay.  My main concern is WP:COATRACK and what cutoff do we use for % of people using the language to be included?  EvergreenFir (talk) 18:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to remove [[List_of_countries_where_French_is_an_official_language#Countries_where_French_is_commonly_used_but_not_official|not official]] section

message: In Asia also there is one country where French is official and it is India. In the Indian union territory of Pondicherry also known as Puducherry, French is one of the official languages. So it also needs to be included in the list.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.245.136.203 (talk) 14:10, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  French is also an official language in Pondicherry along with others 

message: Many thanks to the author (s) for this article. We translated parts of it into the Tatar Language.--A.Khamidullin (talk) 20:07, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks 

message: Hey everyone,
I'm trying to teach myself SPARQL to query wikidata.
While playing around with it I tried to create a list of countries where French is the official language (either the only one or one of many official languages).
My request returned all 29 countries mentioned in this article AND 
* Mauritania (the country's Wikipedia article lists "French" as an "other" language => not official then?)
* Vatican City ("The Holy See uses Latin as its main official language, Italian as its main working language and French as its main diplomatic language;")
* Mauritius (The Mauritian constitution makes no mention of an official language. The Constitution only mentions that the official language of the National Assembly is English; however, any member can also address the chair in French.[2] English and French are generally considered to be de facto national and common languages of Mauritius, as they are the languages of government administration, courts, and business.[104] The constitution of Mauritius is written in English, while some laws, such as the Civil code and Criminal code, are in French. The Mauritian currency features the Latin, Tamil and Devanagari scripts. The Mauritian population is multilingual; while Mauritian Creole is the mother tongue of most Mauritians, most people are also fluent in English and French; they tend to switch languages according to the situation.[105] French and English are favoured in educational and professional settings, while Asian languages are used mainly in music, religious and cultural activities. The media and literature are primarily in French.")
Should these 3 countries be included in the list? Vincent Tep (talk) 19:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Mauritania and Vatican City/Holy See should not be, for the very reason that their governments (well, Mauritania's) do not use the language; in Mauritania it's academic and in Vatican it's a diplomatic. Mauritius is ambigious and often excluded for several reasons. It isn't really French that is spoken in the house by everyone equally, but a heavily formalized form of Mauritian Creole, or a register of French that would be mutually intelligible to other Mauritians but not necessarily to French-speakers from other parts of the French-speaking world. The use of French over Mauritian Creole and vice versa is also politicized by some political parties. The "but any member may address the chair in French" is a compromise. Linguists do not consider Mauritian Creole and French mutually intelligible and therefore two separate languages. 89.164.162.198 (talk) 01:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  29 or 32? 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of territorial entities where Afrikaans and Dutch are official languages which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 16:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: How comes the island has a different status for French than the .mainland Canada (if we are to trust the map)? Антон васильков (talk) 22:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: They both seem inconsistent with the article text, which puts Canada as a whole in the "French is co-official" group, with no other designation for BC, unlike some other subdivisions. So I think all of BC including Vancouver and some of the rest of Canada should use the "Regions where French is an official language but not a majority native language" shade of blue, the text should be changed to reflect reality if incorrect, or both. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 23:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vancouver