Talk:Indian English

message: The section with this heading is presently (late 2017) empty.  Surely somebody has some reliable information!
OR:  My own observations include the frequent omission of the definite article the  by Indian-English speakers and writers, where it would be mandatory in Australia, the UK and the US.  For example, I've recently been reading Wikipedia articles on Jainism, many of which show this tendency.  However, it is only a tendency, and neither omission nor inclusion of the article is certain.  Occasionally, the indefinite articles a and an are also affected similarly.
Does anybody have published information about this usage to confirm (or otherwise) these impressions?  Or about any other consistent structural differences between Indian and other Englishes?  yoyo (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello  yoyo, like you, I am confused by tags that entreat me to use Indian English in certain articles. Sure, there is different pronunciation. The vocabulary may differ slightly from American English.  I see no point in adding unnecessary modifying clauses, overusing gerunds. or to mix and match lakhs and crores and inconsistent grouping of digits with SI standard numbers. Tell me the rules for written Indian English and I'll comply. Rhadow (talk) 09:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Given I'm building a spelling and grammar checker for Wikipedia, I'm curious about the standard Indian English dialect too.  So far the opinions I can find on the topic of articles in Indian English is that a lot of people are simply using them incorrectly because they are not present in Hindi and perhaps other Indian languages, and hardly anyone in India has English as a first language. If true, I think it's not dissimilar to what happens with English spoken and written in the Netherlands. Almost everyone there speaks English, but even on professional web sites you'll see errors much more frequently than on say, British sites. And a lot of them are clearly dragging some things over from Dutch, like weird vocabulary choices or making lots of new compound words. That said, if most Indian English speakers don't consider adding or dropping "a" or "the" to be an error, and if people generally ignore the distinction, we might count that as a dialect difference. It does seem like in professional prose that articles are almost always used as they would be in British English. For the purposes of Wikipedia, perhaps we can simply assume that prose that follows British grammar is considered correct Indian English (but perhaps with slight vocabulary differences), even if the reverse might not be true? It's not necessarily a bad thing to use the language in a more restricted way that looks correct to multiple countries, just to improve clarity for more people. Certainly I try to do that when dealing with American vs. British differences. -- Beland (talk) 06:56, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , sounds like a good plan to me — just use articles as one would elsewhere, even if the text one is editing has dropped a few.  yoyo (talk) 04:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morphology and syntax 

message: * clubbing-together (consolidating, grouping)
* cousin-brother (male cousin)
* cousin-sister (female cousin)
* today morning (this morning)
* the needful ("necessary, "what's needed" - uncommon in Am. Eng. I had never heard in 50+ yrs as native speaker)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChinaChuck (talk • contribs) 17:34, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: My Indian-born doctor (GP) in Australia always asks specialists, in his referral letters, to "please do the needful".  yoyo (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

text: I've seen "lathi-charge" in an Indian news article.  Also, note that the commas in Rhadow's list should appear outside the double quotes in British, Australian and Indian English; thus: "lathicharge", "lathi-charge", "lathi charge", or what?  (The last comma in a list is optional).  yoyo (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Phrases Unique to Indian-English 

message: When I encounter an article with , should I use the term "over bridge," "foot over bridge," "footover bridge," or what? Rhadow (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Pedestrian overpass

message: When I encounter an article with , should I use the term "lathicharge," "lathi-charge," "lathi charge," or what? Rhadow (talk) 11:57, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen "lathi-charge" in an Indian news article.  Also, note that the commas in Rhadow's list should appear outside the double quotes in British, Australian and Indian English; thus: "lathicharge", "lathi-charge", "lathi charge", or what?  (The last comma in a list is optional).  yoyo (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Baton charge]]

message: Next time you get the urge to introduce unidiomatic constructions such as "co-mandated," please do yourself the favor of reading Talk:India/Archive_12#Secondary_sources:, especially Saravask's reduction to 15 of my sources.  Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: With all due respect, I , apologize for using that word, I didn’t realize it was Italian for something else.  -- friendlyneighborhoodanon 19:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official language of India 

message: The article says: 
Native speakers	250,000 (2022)
L2 speakers: 200 million
L3 speakers: 46 million
246 million total speakers (2022)
There are three sources given for 250,000 native speakers - all of them give an error. 
Furthermore the article says there are 200 million second language speakers in India with no source given. The census of 2011 gives 83 million people for English as a second language (see https://www.livemint.com/news/india/in-india-who-speaks-in-english-and-where-1557814101428.html , but we can also take the census report itself). 
I suggest we change to that number, if we do not find a reliable source for higher numbers. --Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven (talk) 15:57, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of English speaking people in India