Talk:24 season 6

message: Thank you.
Kimpire 21:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i bet you that someone is going to add cast rumors/speculations within the week Q5 den 05:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *sigh*. Does wikipedia have a legal death penalty? Kimpire 05:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  an i win!!! Q5 den 04:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

text: This is why i proposed this article for deletion. The new season doesn't even air until next year! This article is going to get hit by a hell of alot of speculation, spam, vandalism, ect. dposse 23:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that an article is going to get hit with vandalism is no reason to delete it. How often do articles on famous, important subjects get hit with vandalism? Your argument only implies that this article should be locked for editing only by experienced users.  Deleting it lets the terrorists vandals win. Kimpire 21:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree. It is way too early for this page to be here. dposse 15:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DO NOT EDIT THIS PAGE WITHOUT HARD FACTS

message: Whoever wrote the article needs to cite sources; so they won't be viewed as rumors; or else I'd have to agree with the article being deleted or at least shortened.
The article speculates that the season may have another 18 month gap in time. But isn't this highly unlikely? Once Jack is captured; the race to bring him back begins right away; so I wouldn't be surprised if Season 6 begins only 1 day after the disappearance of Jack. But I guess it would make sense for some sort of time gap; assuming no one finds out that they had shipped Jack off to China (and then it is later revealed). But shouldn't the Chinese be a prime suspect? I mean, they were looking for Jack for a full 18 months during his hiding right? So if he disappears; it's probably China. So I doubt it's 18 months -- are there sources that say so?
I remember reading an article that there will be a shorter delay between season 5 and season 6; so that fans of the show won't have to wait as long to catch the next season. But season 6 is airing in January, as usual. What happened?
There's actually a very good chance that there may be an 18 month interval, due to precedcence.  Days 1 & 2 had an 18 month gap.  Days 3 & 4 had another 18 month gap, and Days 4 & 5 had an 18 month gap.
In the season 4 article, it states that season 4 was considered to be the "best" season based on ratings and fan reaction.  So now that season 5 has recently come to an end; how are the ratings and fan-reaction -- could this be crowned the new "best" season? 24.23.51.27 01:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That belongs in the season 5 discussion Q5 den 03:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumors, 18 months, shorter-delay, better season? 

message: Please? I am this close to wiping the entire thing clean and writing stub-like sentences from scratch if we don't stop with the speculation. Kimpire 22:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since someone thought it was a good idea to remove my deletion request, i have removed all speculation from this article. Since this article was created so early, we need to be very careful. The sixth season of 24 does not air until next year. We cannot have "general summaries" or anything of the kind until much later in the year when someone official announces something. dposse 22:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: General Summary --> Background make you happy now? Q5 den 23:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is much better. Thank you.dposse 04:43, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can *somebody* please start citing their sources for editing this article? 

message: He went to Buchanan's house, no? It is so unlikely that he went to sleep? 
:I don't know if he went to Bill's house for sure. It wasn't clearly stated in the episode. I reckon he's okay. Now Evelyn and her daughter, on the other hand... Peanutbuttercups 04:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm not sure why we're asking about Wayne Palner. 

message: Whoever put up the "citation needed"s has a good point. The entire article was pure speculative bull until the general summary was cleaned up; but I'm wondering where the "confirmed to return"s came from and how much speculation those are as well. Given that Kiefer Sutherland does have a three-year contract, I know his at least is fact (though I don't know where to find the citation for that, because I saw the article a long time a go). The other characters, though... unless somebody puts up a source in a week I suggest they be removed. Kimpire 22:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation 

message: "Executive Producer Howard Gordon has said in interviews that Jack will escape the Chinese in the first episode." Did he really? I don't recall him ever saying that. I do know he said that the season won't take place in China (due to the time zone difference between Los Angeles and China). So I don't think he necessarily escapes, per se. The show just won't be set there. Does anybody have any links to Gordon stating that Jack escapes? Peanutbuttercups 04:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great point. I've tried pretty hard to find corroborating information for that assertion but haven't had any success. -- 
Huysmantalk 11:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: If you don't present the citation, we can't allow it; otherwise this article will be overrun by speculation from any number of sources. Kimpire 21:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Jack doesn't escape, he is traded as seen in the Promo's. In one Promo Cheng Zhi says "Your president has paid a high price for Mr. Bauer's freedom, what he wants from him must be very important." implying that Mr. Bauer's release must have cost a real arm and a leg. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.154.21.124 (talk) 22:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: I removed the bits about Kim Bauer and President Keeler because they don't seem to have any bearing on the plot of season 6. Kim Bauer just leaves, without any explanation necessary; President Keeler's death or permanent incapacitation is probably irrelevant. Wayne Palmer should stay, however, because they made a point of not being able to find him in the final episode and that might be relevant; similarly, James Heller was left alive for a reason, one would assume.
If anyone disagrees with any of those choices let me know. Kimpire 21:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What happened to...

message: Just add a section for rumors, also possibly asking for a source so no one makes random crap up.
:No.--DethFromAbove 01:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Add a Rumors Section

message: All the news which is cited as being found at the heritage foundation is no longer available, as when you follow the link their site says they cannot find the page, and for the terrorists this should not have the 24 insider messenger board as a source as it requires a username and password to access the required information
17:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: Why don't people get that 24 Insider(fan site) is a respected source? --Jasonflare 19:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because it's a fan site. It is not a source, and it should not be used as a source. Unless you can provide a better source for infomation, all infomation gained from that website will be deleted. dposse 22:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  24 Insider 

message: I have requested that this page be Semi Protected because of the vandals who think that a fan site is a good source for infomation, per WP:V, WP:RS. dposse 18:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  semi protection. 

message: the 24 insider as well as the new york times have confirmed that Wayne Palmer is not the President in season 6, and that negotiations for Jon Tenney to play this role has fallen through.
The 24 Insider is not a source, as i've stated above. dposse 16:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The New POTUS

message: First, I added a couple things, including a link to the Hertiage Foundation transcript. I contains several notes used in this summery, and also promised the return of Aaron Pierce. Secondly, while I understand the hesitation of members of this site to use spoilers from The 24 Community (renamed version of the Insider), I should note that the site has a better track record than some of the actual sources used in this article. I'm not going to post unconfirmed stuff from there, but I'm just saying, they're pretty freaking accuriate. --WhoIsWillo 20:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hertiage Foundation and other notes 

message: who keep putting in the SecDef Jim Heller will be next president, there are no sources indicating this and as such if you cannot find one this piece of info will be removed
Pat 14:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a page linking Wayne Palmer as the next president, so I've changed the information.  I'm pasting the original Heller post here for safekeeping.  "* Hal Gardner has since died, and former secretary of defence James Heller wins the election and takes over the presidency, he appoints Audrey Raines (Kim Raver), his daughter, as his chief of staff." 63.88.58.254 16:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: James Heller!!!!!!!!!!!!

message: In the known details section, it says Jack's "two months into his Chinese incarceration", yet later says the series begins 20 months after the last. I doubt the Chinese would take 1 1/2 years to put Jack away.
84.65.102.19 18:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: Any news on the return of Jude Ciccolella (Mike Novick)?  I know it's a long shot but we can all hope, right? Spebudmak 21:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Novick???? 

message: Where's the reference for Jet Li's appearance? There's nothing on the Jet Li article, and I can't find any references via google. Is this just a rumor? --TimPendragon 06:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jet Li??? 

message: Any news on when the season will be shown outside the US? Battle Ape 15:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As Far As I am aware Sky One will Show Season 6 In the UK on Sunday February 11  Pat 12:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Australia? Battle Ape 15:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign premieres 

message: Can we get a citation or a reason why Eddie Izzard appears to no longer be signed on for the show?  StoopidEmu 07:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Izzard 

message: Can someone provide a citation or source for the recent listing of episodes? Otherwise, I'm removing it.
Order_66 10:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i've removed it. it was completely unsourced/original research and it went against a whole bunch of wikipedia guidelines. dposse 15:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Listing 

message: I haven't seen that prequel, but from the description it sounds more like a commercial, like the CalorieMate commercials, than an actual prequel to season 6. Maybe that possibility/angle should be included in its section. Bufflo 22:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called a prequel, but it's clearly just a preview if you look at any definition of prequel, a ten minute trail of a forthcoming series ain't it.  --Gavinio 18:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prequel 

message: Where is it stated that the day will start at 6:00 AM? -WarthogDemon 19:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Of Day 

message: Is there anyway to clean up the discussion page and the "known details."  Definitive information is out now that the episodes have been leaked and it would be great to start making this look like a real television show page.  I'd love to start doing some real work, but I don't know much about Wikipedia.  Hopefully we can make Season Six a good one and one that we can use as a guideline for the previous seasons.  MorseMoose 03:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: Screenshots are terrible quality and terribly dark.  Please upload better screenshots if you have them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MorseMoose (talk • contribs) 08:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshots 

message: Some silly ass phony user added about Jack Bauer weeping etc. but I can't edit this article (semi-protection is NOT the best solution.. sigh..) which makes me doubt it seriously. --84.249.253.201 17:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Jack does weep in episode 4 after had to make a hard decision. Well in a way he was weeping, but just tear drops where failling. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.154.21.49 (talk) 03:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silly user 

message: It provides an episode-like synopsis of the 10 minute clip, and is available to the public at this point, so I don't see what was so terribly wrong with it.  Until it is verifiable that it has no bearing on what happens with the 6th season, a synopsis of it serves on less purpose than any episode recap.  It's probably for the best to just keep it.  If nothing else, it's certainly not useless information, and it certainly relates to the season itself. President David Palmer 23:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one think that the prequel is relevant in establishing background, much like the PS 2 game established background. When this page is unprotected, I intend to restore the section. Calwatch 13:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the Prequel section removed? 

message: I'm a tad curious here. Wiki doesn't seem to hold the information and I can't recall whether the show ever identified what Fayed and his cohorts hoped to target politically. Support for Israel? Military presence in Saudi Arabia? Or are the villains in this event another case of the "hate us for our freedom/relish in 'evil'" mentality? --AWF —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.54.97.194 (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They have not identified the motives beyond the typical animosity-because-you're-America-and-we're-not schtick.  It's hard to make the motivations much different in a mainstream show without polarizing the audience and causing groups to be even more upset than they already are.  Not to mention, that's probably making a bit too much of a political statement for a show that should avoid doing so. President David Palmer 04:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been mentioned that Gredenko wanted revenge fr the Cold War, but that still doesn't explain Fayed's motives. 66.24.227.212 23:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Motivations?

message: Hm, someone has added to the synopsis section, which I suppose is good.  But it includes the text that Jack murdered Curtis.  While it certainly can be said that Jack killed Curtis, asserting that that killing constitutes murder seems a bit POV. (So I've gone ahead and substituted the language.) Bitnine 16:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, Curtis was about to murder Assad, so Jack was simply doing what he had to do to save Assad's life.  That's defense against murder, not murder.  --Serge 06:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder 

message: What style of episode summaries listing do other people prefer?  I like the style last seen in the Revision as of 08:02, January 23, where the airdate is listed, as it more closely conforms to the list of episodes style used for other TV series on wikipedia.  What are peoples' thoughts on its use versus the concise and less informative template? -Beard0 04:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Summaries Listing Style

message: A 10-minute preview was available exclusively to the American audience with the fifth season DVD. The British viewers could see this preview, too. Before 24 was shown, there was a sort of advert-thing which told viewers to help Jack and Chloe by going to www.ctuagent.com and typing in a password (D9D5JJ).....through a sequence of events the viewer would eventually end up on a website where they could be entered into a competition to win a trip to the set of 24, and they were granted the preview clip. Vimescarrot 16:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly what had to be done can be seen here. Vimescarrot 16:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preview 

message: People seem to be confused with what the major plots section is. If you look at all the other season articles, you'll see that the major plots section details story arcs and is not an episode by episode summary. Gdo01 17:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Plots 

message: Do we have confirmation that graem was behind the events of Day 4? I find this dubious unless anyone can confirm this.
:It was in one of the episodes (first 4-6?) where he confesses to Jack that he was behind the whole thing. Jack's father later does too. Jacks' father and Graham also talk between themselves about what they've done/are doing (before Graham is killed by his father to cover it all up). -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 22:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graem 

message: STOP SAYING HE IS DEPUTY NIRMAN! FACE IT, WE FINALLY HAVE SOMEONE PLAYING MORE THAN ONE CHARACTER ON 24! EITHER THAT OR GET A RELIABLE SOURCE!
P.S.: Technically, the guy who plays Abu Fayed is the first, as he played someone in Season 4, but his scenes were apparently deleted.
72.141.232.95 16:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Head Of Secret Service

message: I added back the source and information in reguards of Audrey Raine's "Death" and "Return". --The Manator E 21:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Audrey's "death"

message: According to sources, Logan is stabbed in his upper left chest, not his shoulder. So people please don't change it back to "shoulder" until it has been proven. Thanks Chris 04:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I saw it, she came over the couch on his right side. Chris 04:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  regards the body part in which Logan got stabbed 

message: I was just wondering what anyone thought about adding conjunctions before the names of several cast members. For example, "and" would go before Regina King's name. I'm only suggesting this change because this style would follow the opening credits of the show as well as other articles concerning 24. If anyone is strongly opposed to such changes, it's fine with me, but I want to hear what anyone else thinks. Kman1239, 10:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast list

message: I've rated this article as start class because it contains most of the important information about the subject but contains few inline citations. I've rated it as low importance to wikiproject television as series articles are of comparitively low importance compared to article about entire shows.--Opark 77 21:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment rating

message: I don't really agree about the date links, but it's ok with me in the infobox, as long as we keep the date link in the lead paragraph as it is now: 2007 in television which provides context for the article, makes sense, and is therefore a useful link.   I don't understand for the life of me what possible relevance a link to January 14 has for this article, but I'm not going to fight about it.  I can see it if it's someone's date of birth, say, because that is kind of interesting, to see that date in history or something like that.   But the date the first episode in a television series aired in the US?  I don't see it.
(Relevant portion of WP:DATE): 
There is consensus among editors that bare month and day names should not be linked unless there is a specific reason that the link will help the reader to understand the article. There is less agreement about links to years. Some editors believe that links to years are generally useful to establish context for the article. Others believe that links to years are rarely useful to the reader and reduce the readability of the text. Another possibility is to link to a more specific article about that year, for example 2006, although some people find this unintuitive because the link leads to an unexpected destination. Tvoz |talk 20:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  dates 

message: I have tried to convince people to summarize the Major Plot, but people continue to put more info. Hopefully, people would help to clean up after seeing the tag. Chris 00:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems reasonable to me.  I would like to remove the tag.  Any objections?  --Serge 23:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it could be much shorter personally. If you look at the pages for other seasons of 24, the plots section is much shorter and easier to read. There are individual pages for each episode of season six that people could read if they wanted more in-depth information. The main page should just list a short summary of the major plots in my opinion.  SeanMooney 01:02, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that it is still too long. It can easily be divided into 12-17, 18-21, 22-24 as significant plot points. You have seperated the arcs way too much. It is 1-4: Jack back in action. 5-11: The Bauer family and assasin plot. 12-17: Stopping the other nukes. 18-21: The circuitboard. 22-24: Phillip and Josh plot. We have divided it up wayy too much IMO WikiChloesLove 05:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  too much info on the major plot 

message: I agree with the most recent post, that the major plots/ subplots are WAY TOO LONG!!!!!
If no one else rejects, I am going to attempt to shorten and organize it.  Any constructive comments and ideas are welcomed.
:I am actually begin to shorten it. So welcome aboard. Chris 03:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've significantly shortened the subplots section. A lot of it was repeated information already listed in the major plots section. I think it could still be shortened quite a bit (Logan being stabbed was not a subplot for example, more of an event). The major plots section can be trimmed down as well, it should be a short list. There are individual episode pages for season 6 that people can read if they want to read more in-depth. SeanMooney 01:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning Up the Plot Points 

message: The season just ended and the article needs updating. I'm too busy preparing for the Super Smash Bros. Brawl site relaunch to do it myself, plus Wiis type slowly. -Gaming King 02:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Needed 

message: Why is there a fake version of the Region 2 Season 6 cover? It is clearly a fake and I see no reason why it should be put on this page. It is false. THe cover shouldn't be out for another couple of months and until then I think just a 24 logo or some kind of banner will do.  WikiChloesLove 20:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Official Region 2 cover was released and I can provide a link through my own photobucket account. I can also provide you a link of the original article before we post it on the site. Photobucket here:  http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i168/TheUser2006/smaller.jpg   ..  and the original link here: http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/24-season-six-dvd-collection.html    WikiChloesLove 13:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover Art 

message: I noticed the episode pages have been deleted, so is it possible to do an episode list like has been done for seasons 1-4? SignorSimon 22:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode list? 

message: I'm not sure this bit should not be included, I mean its clear that was what was happening, and they did use the silent clock. Chocobogamer (talk) 10:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  'contemplating suicide' 

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thread_title:  Spam links 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Actor Jim Holmes, the tenth person on the list. Although he was in 10 episodes for season 6, his name should be removed. The link embedded in the character's name leads to the minor characters article where the character is not listed. Believe me, I have checked. I also checked for a separate Wikipedia article for the actor, and that does not exist either. Since there are no working links for either the actor or the character description, then he should be removed from the section. Or at the very least, placed at the last of the list on the right column, with no embedded links. If people want to know who the guy is, they can look up his imdb page, or the imdb page for the show. Aidensdaddy2k9 (talk) 19:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of a Name From the Guest Starring List