Talk:Devil May Cry: The Animated Series

message: It might be the correct term in Japanese, but this is the English language Wikipedia. Unless a reader is a medium-to-hardcore anime fan they aren't going to know what that word means, and they shouldn't have to know. We should use the English term "voice actor," and that's what I'll change it to. --Boradis 02:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't we usually use seiyu to describe the Japanese voice actors and 'voice actor' to describe dubs with anime? I'm fairly certain that's what's done on the other anime pages. Is "Voiced by" fair middle ground? Chavi904 08:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mainly anime fans that visit anime articles I'm sure they know what "seiyu" mean, besides most other articles use "seiyu". -- David13579 00:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of who "mainly" visits anime articles, the correct term in English is the term that should be used. There is no reason to use the Japanese term simply because it's an anime title. --Boradis 00:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then change all anime articles. I wasn't trying to say "seiyu" is right the right term because anime fans read the articles, it is the right term because it has been used by most articles so far besides there's an articles explaining what "seiyu" means. --David13579 00:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Seiyu?" 

message: I will leave these here until needed so that they don't get deleted:
Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg|Morrison
Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg|Patty
-凶 02:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: As Boradis' suggestion, I'm moving our discussion here, so that everyone can participate.
I'd like to start a List of characters in Devil May Cry anime with all characters, including the "threats-of-the-week", because a) the plot of the series centers on these weekly threats and their back-stories (for the most part) and b) it's common to have minor characters listed in an extra and since the anime only has 6 main/recurring characters, all others are by definition "minor ones".
I'd like to particularly stress the notability of Baal and Asmodeus (for the third time, btw, if you visit the history and the talk page of the DMC character list): they make a parallel to Dante and Vergil and contribute significantly to Sparda's biography, as other sources tell very little about his past in the demon world. There is also the fact that their names are yet another allusion to Judeo-Christian tradition in the franchise, and lastly, they are voiced by two very prominent seiyus. Similar rationale can be given to other characters, for example, "threat" guy in episode 3 (thanks for bringing that up, Boradis).
However, Boradis maintains that episodic characters are not notable enough to have them listed. My argument against it is that it depends on the context: while they are certainly not notable in the context of the whole franchise (except Baal and Modeus due to their explicit connection to Sparda), they are enough so for the anime. I'd like to hear other's opinions and eventually have a consensus on the issue. --Koveras ☭ 08:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I diagree that the "threats of the week" deserve an entry, most of these characters only appear once and then disappear (or are sliced depending the case), they are just not notable enough, a separate page for them would mostly be considered fancruft, now I don't see a reason the notable ones can't be included in the main characters page. - Caribbean~H.Q. 10:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a solution I wouldn't mind myself. In fact, that was the first thing I tried. ^^ --Koveras ☭ 18:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think everyone here already agrees that the notable ones should be included. What is needed in this case is someone besides Koveras and I who will look at the series and these characters and weigh in on whether or not they are notable. Here's my take on what makes a (non-core) character notable; appearing in more than one episode in a speaking role with new lines (not just as an image or in a flashback); being influential in their actions to one of the core characters by having an effect on that character's later behavior. To my mind, the only character that fits these criteria and hasn't been included yet is Patty's mom. --Boradis 20:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, my point is that if an episodic character has a direct connection to the main game series and contributes to its continuity, it makes them notable, as well. :) I guess we just have to wait for more opinions on this. --Koveras ☭ 15:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every episode has a direct connection to the game continuity simply by being DMC. And even having a close connection to Sparda isn't enough to be truly notable. Notice the lack of a character write up for Phantom? Phantom has just about as many lines and as much screen time as these two characters, was an actual rival of Sparda (not just one of his pupils), and actually gave Dante a hard time -- heck, Phantom even appears in the anime's opening credits! And yet Phantom is not notable because he's just a threat-of-the-mission, not someone who influences Dante's later actions. The two characters you want to add are far less noteworthy in the back story of Sparda than Phantom is even if you consider the anime's continuity to be game canon, which I don't. Nonetheless, we need someone who's seen the episode to comment.--Boradis 19:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Somehow, we keep saying the same thing ("I wanna hear more opinions") but keep arguing nonetheless. Argument solves nothing, the majority vote does. :) --Koveras ☭ 19:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And with CHQ not voting one way or another on the notability of these particular two characters, we're at an impasse. Let's just wait a while longer. --Boradis 02:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I would say that the two are semi-notable, if only that they are important in Sparda's past.KrytenKoro 06:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More important canonically than Phantom or Beowulf? Both of those boss monsters had personal grudges with Sparda and gave Dante a hard time, unlike these two creampuffs. Heck, they were less of a threat than DMC1 marionettes. --Boradis 20:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of characters 

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message: *It says that it seems that Dante is in debt for Lady, but i think that he owes her for nothing else but Kalinna Ann she let him borrow in DMC3...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.22.191.4 (talk) 19:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was going to say the same thing but I forgot. I believe his gambling debt to Lady is mentioned in episode 9. --Eruhildo (talk) 22:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dante's debt for Lady 

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message: Just felt I should add this in before anyone goes "speculative" trigger happy with editing my edit out! ^_^
http://www.advfilms.com/latest-news/devil-may-cry-ign-com/dvd-reviews.aspx?newsid471=6960  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.25.23 (talk) 20:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so you know, calling fellow Wikipedians "too damn stupid" and posting anonymously does not exactly give your edits an air of credibility, nor garner you much respect. The page you linked does say "that the same voice actor in the new game is also playing Dante in the anime," though it doesn't mention Langdon by name. You might want to note that sort of thing when flaming other fans who only want these pages to be accurate. You might also try to learn how to properly add a cite, and learn how to sign your own posts so the robot doesn't have to come and fix it for you. If you learn to do these simple things, then your righteous indignation will have much more force. Happy holidays! --Boradis (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Voice Actor 

message: Where's the proof of that?  Arkham does say in DMC3 that "I needed you, in whose body flows the same blood as the sacrificed woman," but I assumed he was talking about Kalina Ann, Lady's mother...69.250.239.66 (talk) 20:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lady as the relative of the priestess Sparda sacrificed?

message: I've noticed that there are several spoilers, specifically in the character section, that aren't really necessary
to the character's description, and pretty much remove all enjoyment of the twists in the last two episodes.
I suggest that the pertaining parts of the character's description be removed (the fact that Patty is a descendant
of a powerful magician, and that Sid obtains the power of Abigail and is defeated by Dante), or at the very least
a spoiler warning is put at the top.  I know this article would of really annoyed me if I hadn't read it after
watching the anime.—Preceding unsigned comment added by D43dr34m3r (talk • contribs)  
:Can I suggest you have a read of this page about spoilers? Thanks. gb (t, c) 10:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok.  I didn't realize that was the case.  That none of the other character's descriptions have significant plot mentions threw me off, and I wasn't aware of Wikipedia's stance on the subject.--D43dr34m3r (talk) 04:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

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