Talk:List of mammals of North America

message: I'm going to add mammals that went extinct in the Ice Age.--4444hhhh (talk) 02:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ice Age Mammals

message: Why are introduced monkey (primate) populations repeatedly removed from this list even though they are sourced (such as the Vervet monkey and Rhesus Macaques in Florida)? I am tired of reverting this and don't care for an edit war but would suggest that an editor who is not an edit Nazi please review the list prior to primates being edited out (except for humans) and possibly lock it if appropriate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.224.3.216 (talk) 16:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Primates

message: Don't whales/porpoises/dolphins fit under Cetartiodactyla?
They are strangely missing from this list....do we not consider these aquatic mammals to be of North America? I can guarantee you I've seen whales in our waters:)
Can someone please correct this? I would, but am unsure, with recent taxonomic shifting about, if they still fall here (the wiki article seems to indicate they do)
Regardless, they belong SOMEWHERE here...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.65.34.246 (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  cetaceans? 

message: I'm assuming this is referring to the common house cat but while I fully understand that the African Wild Cat is the most likely ancestor to it, is it really necessary to list it as such? It's not really the same creature by this point. In fact it appears that the domestic cat has possibly up to 5 different original "eves" from which they started and that there is enough differences between the Domestic and it's wild brethren that there is an organization that is "specifically aimed at conserving African wildcats and reducing genetic pollution by domestic cats" according to the African Wild cat wiki page. 
Also note that the domestic cat has its own scientific designation, Felis catus. While I understand that it may make things seem more tidy to some by using the ancestral species name instead in the place of the domestic, it will likely be confusing to many who are ignorant of such details. 
On a side note if we include feral-to-wild cats shouldn't we also include dogs (feral dogs are nationwide as well as some wild dogs such as the Carolina Dog) and Horses (mustangs and other small feral herds?) 174.49.19.28 (talk) 22:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  African wild cat? 

message: Turns out that the animals I asked about in my earlier post were in fact added previously but were deleted en masse with others in a large act of probable vandalism back in June by user 68.89.75.105. I have re-added those which are well known to be living established in the wild within N. America, such as Wild Boar, Nutria, etc. Also, while the Horse evolved in North America, the domestic horse (whose main bloodline stems from the extinct European Wild Horse)) is highly unlikely to be the same species as that which perished in N.A. during the last Ice age thus for now I considered it an introduction, not a reintroduction and marked it as so. Others like llamas, domestic sheep & goats and guinea pigs which were listed prior are unlikely to have established wild populations (and I found no references stating they had) so I will not add them back but instead leave for others to do if they can find references stating otherwise. 
I also left the "African wild cat" alone for the moment to see if there are any objections to it being switched to the more appropriate "Domestic Cat" as per my earlier discussion.
This is not OR, if references are needed I'll dig some up since these are all easily found on the net. Discuss here if you disagree, please do not just randomly delete or it will be assumed as vandalism and placed back. 174.49.19.28 (talk) 00:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed some more deletions 

message: An editor keeps adding this primate. According to the article its does not live north of Mexico. Is there something I'm missing? Meters (talk) 03:16, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This article always has been about mammals north of Mexico, however it covers this way only part of North America. But in my opinion addition of countless neotropical species from additional zoogeographical regions would enlarge it and change dramatically its character, make unclear. This list at this moment is very large. But I am almost new here. Darekk2 (talk) 06:54, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And the same editor has now added Bush dog and Kinkajou, neither of which apparently lives north of Mexico. As with the Guatemalan black howler. these additions are unsourced. Meters (talk) 19:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And an IP added Common opossum, also unsourced and apparently not known to live north of Mexico. Meters (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Guatemalan black howler]] and other additions 

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message: I was thinking it could be a good idea to streamline the formatting between the other North American taxon lists (or even among all biological taxon lists on Wikipedia for that matter), as the formatting for the Amphibian, and Reptile lists for North America for instance are quite different. I'm not sure how a consensus would be reached or if there is some starting point for a defined standard however.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyingratchet (talk • contribs) 19:55, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a good idea, but it would be difficult. I've thought of starting a conversation about some standardized format at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life, but I'm pessimistic about it working. There are tens of thousands of such lists. If you wanted to start with North America, that might work; maybe clean up one such list and propose that format as a standard and go from there. SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting consistency between other North American taxa lists 

message: I've looked into the reference provided for the presence of tigers in North America in the last 13,000 years. From page 21 of Jackson, Peter & Christie, Sarah (1999). Riding the Tiger, it says "Recently, Herrington (1987) identified some fossil big cats from eastern Beringia as tigers, but so far none has been recorded from North America." It doesn't explain why they are found in "eastern Beringia", which generally means Alaska and Yukon, but that they are not in North America. It also gives no time period. Herrington (1987) seems to be Herrington, S. (1987). "Subspecies and the conservation of Panthera tigris: Preserving genetic heterogeneity". In Tigers of the World: The Biology, Biopolitics, Management and Conservation of an Endangered Species. ed. Ronald Tilson & Ulysses Seal. That's not available online that I can find. I could request it through my library.
Other sources refer to the possibility of tigers in eastern Beringia as being around 100,000 years ago or in the Late Pleistocene, which Wikipedia gives as 11,700 to 129,000 years ago. A little overlap with our time period. I'd feel much more comfortable adding tigers to this list if we had a source saying they were here in the last 13,000 years and I haven't been able to find that.
What do others think? Thank you, SchreiberBike | ⌨  04:54, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tigers, to start with 

message: Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Trinidad and Tobago are listed in the List of sovereign states and dependent territories in North America (and here: North America#Countries, dependencies, and other territories), but they are located in South America. However it seems, that this list of mammals contains species occuring only in these teritories, maybe copied from the List of mammals of Trinidad and Tobago for example. At least these ones: Caluromys philander, Chiroderma trinitatum, Cyclopes didactylus, Dasyprocta leporina (but Introduced to Virgin Islands, U.S.), Gardnerycteris crenulatum (as Mimon crenulatum), Glossophaga soricina, Heteromys anomalus, Hylaeamys megacephalus, Lasiurus blossevillii (if not including L. L. frantzii ?), Lophostoma brasiliense, Makalata didelphoides, Marmosa murina, Mazama americana, Natalus tumidirostris, Necromys urichi, Nectomys palmipes, Oecomys speciosus, Platyrrhinus fusciventris, Proechimys trinitatis, Rhipidomys couesi, Tamandua tetradactyla, Uroderma bilobatum, Vampyrodes caraccioli. So far I marked them with "(Trinidad and Tobago)" Darekk2 (talk) 09:52, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Trinidad and Tobago