Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Temples

message: I added coordinates to the Talk:Ogden_Utah_Temple/data page - I used the  template; I used the Goggle Maps API which gave me -111.972036,41.226958,0 which after some tinkering discovered was to be marked up as 41.226958|N|111.972036|W.  It appears the temples template doesn't yet use this info; here is a sample of the output of the coor d template: 
MeekMark 15:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  coordinates 

message: I'm going to help out with this project in my spare time.  I've created the data page for the Nuku'alofa Tonga Temple - someone please let me know if I'm not doing this right. Jaksmata 14:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nuku'alofa Tonga Temple]] 

message: I’ve added a bunch of temples to the new format.  I’ve tried to do as much as possible of it by copy/paste to avoid typos, but the large amount of data practically guarantees that errors will happen.  If someone wants to “follow me around” correcting things, that would be helpful. Jaksmata 19:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More temples in new format 

message: I've created a template that could be used as  in my user area ().  There's a sample page where I've tested it here: User:Jaksmata/List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by geographic region.  This could be copied as a baseline for the "real" template.  There is also a simple table header template .
There are a few issues with the template that need to be worked out:
*I didn't include the country in the template, because I wanted to preserve the rowspan like it is in the article now.  It leaves the article source looking a little messy.  This could easily be changed.
*Temples with no article (data page) cause problems - you can see this in my sample page with the Cebu Philippines Temple - this is the reason I haven't already created the template.
Jaksmata 19:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a look at this today - My view is that we should try to eliminate as much as possible the table formatting from the list pages so that they are easier to read and edit for the uninitiated. However, I can't think of an easy way to do that with the countries having different numbers of temples. I agree that we need a useful way to deal with Temples that do not yet have articles. Maybe creating a stub article for any announced temple is the best plan :) --Trödel 02:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|LDS Temple geographic}} 

message: What does everyone think about using a nav box in temple articles?  Many wikiprojects use these to organize multiple articles that don't fit into the same category. I think they make the articles look nice too. I've made one that I think is pretty nifty by combining the nav box from Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles and Bytebear's temple maps. You can see it in my sandbox. Jaksmata 20:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am generally against all these nav box stuff - but I like these collapsible ones and the design looks good. A while back there was a push to use color to identify different religion infoboxes. I'll try to find it as I thought the color used for LDS temples was attractive - and is used in the headings for the comparison list. --Trödel 02:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temple nav boxes 

message: I would like to add geographical coordinate information to all the temple pages (I have a source to get the coordinates), but the data is not currently shown on any of the templates.  I was thinking of adding coordinates to  in a way that would let the coordinates appear at the top of the page near the title (e.g., like the Salt Lake Temple article currently looks).
I would add this near the bottom of :

I've tested it using  as the "format" and  as the "data" (then previewing a few temples substituting X6 and X7 as required), and it seems to work as intended. This would entail adding a few new parameters to each of the temple data pages.
The alternative would be to just add coordinates to each temple article, as has been done to the Salt Lake Temple. Of course, that doesn't give the flexibility that our data templates were intended for. By adding the new parameters, we can support showing the coordinates of multiple temples in grids using a differnet coordinate template like . Any thoughts/objections/suggestions? – jaksmata 22:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there's no response, I'll assume no objections.  I've already done a few temples, and I'll do the rest in the next day or two.  I didn't use the same parameter names I originally said because of the preferred names shown at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. Also, showing the coordinates in degrees/minutes/seconds at the top seems to be the preferred format for buildings. – jaksmata 03:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temple coordinates 

message: I have added a pic to the Taipei Taiwan temple.  However it is not showing on the actual Temple page.  My coding is correct in the Template and I cannot figure out why it is not showing up.  Can someone help me?Petercoyl (talk) 05:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The page's cache just needed to be purged. Thanks for taking the picture! —Remember the dot (talk) 05:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taipei Taiwan Temple

message: Using Jaksmata's suggestion above (with some modificaitons) I have implemented a method to use the data on the geographic list page. See an example in my sandbox Please comment yea/nea/etc. --Trödel 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template for the geographic list 

message: There are several temples (e.g. Freiberg Germany Temple) that were originally built one size and then expanded. How would everyone feel about adding a new parameter to the templates called "original_floor_area_ft" that would hold that value? The value would only be shown in the infoboxes: When present, the infobox would say "Original floor area" and "Current floor area". When the value is missing, it would just say "Floor area" as currently implemented. (I might not respond to any comments for a few days due to a Thanksgiving wikibreak.) – jaksmata 18:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original and current square feet 

message: It appears that most if not all of the temples now have an issue with their template. For example Bern Switzerland Temple, if edited and then previewed, it gives the following messages
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "region" (this message is shown only in preview).
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "continent" (this message is shown only in preview).
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "rededication_link" (this message is shown only in preview).
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "image_width" (this message is shown only in preview).
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "country" (this message is shown only in preview).
*Warning: Page using Template:Infobox LDS Temple with unknown parameter "style" (this message is shown only in preview).
(without the dots, just using that to separate the lines)
The information looks fine in :Template:LDS Temple/Bern Switzerland Temple, but somehow the template or subtemplates that are using it, has a problem.Naraht (talk) 13:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unknown Parameters 

message: Over the last few weeks, Broter initiated good faith efforts to begin including the information currently found in many LDS Church-related templates directly into articles. Primary reasons expressed for this significant change include that it's not only more typical of use across WP, but also from the view that all the extra space being taken for an additional template file is unnecessary.  I have concerns about these changes due to the extensive use of templates in a number of articles and the impact it would have.  As a couple of examples, the articles potentially impacted include the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church), or listings such as the church's presidents, apostles, or temples.  These use templates extensively, to provide efficiency of updates, along with ease of the listings and related updates.  Based on a recent update to the temple status page by Jgstokes regarding temples closed for renovation, I tried the following as a test example.  With the recent closing of the Oakland California Temple for renovation, if the template is updated to show "Closed for Renovation" it does not show up on the main article page.  It does however show that status on the temple listing page I referred to above.  The flip side is that if the main article page is updated where the infobox is now embedded in the article, those changes are not reflected on the temple listing. I have no idea what this does to the portal-related issues that Broter has worked so hard on, which seems to be why the changes were initially started, but it creates inconsistency across a number of issues - and would require people to know/remember to update for the same issues in multiple ways.  I don't know how much traffic this page will get, but since it seems to warrant some discussion or awareness, I thought I'd note it here for comment and some consensus-building discussion. ChristensenMJ (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  Yes, that may be the case, as a standard or guideline, but that does not address the issues it creates that I tried to give an example of above. ChristensenMJ (talk) 17:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  The topic hasn't generated much discussion.  At the same time, while it's been noted that including the infobox in the article may typically be a standard WP approach, there have been no explanations or solutions provided to address the number of other challenges that the recent changes create. In the absence of those solutions, I am inclined to change those articles where such changes have been made back, but felt it appropriate to note that again here before doing so, in order to provide further discussion, or arrival at consensus driven by outcomes, rather than preferences or typical guidelines. ChristensenMJ (talk) 19:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of templates 

message: Hello! I've decided to be bold and attempt to create the McAllen Texas Temple page and Template:LDS_Temple/McAllen_Texas please feel free to through and check those two articles. Have a nice day! 
Joshua 23:12, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  McAllen Texas Temple page and template

message: Recent additions to Comparison of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have caused the page to have an "expanded template size" that is too large.  See :Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded for details.
The issue can be fixed by splitting the page or by changing how the templates behave. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:41, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  List is too big for Wikipedia 

message: List of temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by geographic region is nearing capacity when it comes to memory. With current rate of 35 temples announced each year, this will approach capacity in 2024. May need to consider splitting the page or changing/reducing content or functionality on the page. More information concerning the issue is in it's Talk page. Thoughts? - Dmm1169 (talk) 08:43, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memory issues with geographic temple list page