Talk:Chinese Filipinos

message: Really, seriously? Does anyone read the source? It says: 1,036,000 Chinese Filipino in 1980 - outdated source. And then you smart pants pump up the numbers to 1,500,000 after 34 years makes the statistic more logical and accurate? LOL.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.53.118.17 (talk) 23:27, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: There are roughly 1.5 million Filipinos with pure Chinese ancestry, or just 1.6% of the population.

message: The "Chinese Mestizos" you wrote aren't really MESTIZOS. They are Filipinos of FULL Chinese descent, meaning they are 100% full blooded Chinese, but Filipino by nationality. Kris Aquino is the Chinese Mestiza on the list. Jose Rizal and Cardinal Sin are Filipinos.
And a correction. The term Chinoy does NOT only refer to Chinese Mestizos, but also to Filipinos of FULL Chinese Descent.
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The Filipinos you mentioned are of mixed Chinese/Malay/Spanish ancestry  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.128.5 (talk) 01:33, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsigned first talk

message: People who have placed Pinoy Big Brother contestants are shaming the Philippines. First of all it is not important and relevant to the topic.  Its senseless and shameful if foreigners would see that we are a country of Big Brother love. PLEASE  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.128.34.205 (talk) 04:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: PLEASE DELETE PINOY BIG BROTHER

message: Some Chinese Filipinos emigrated to the US, Mexico, etc. during the Spanish Colonial Period onboard the Galleons. It's just that they were considered Chinese and not Filipinos. --Jondel 02:37, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: During colonial times, the word 'Filipino' meant Chinese to some Mexicans. I can dig info to get the source if anyone wants to research this.--Jondel 09:50, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Chinese Filipinos emigrated to the US, Mexico

message: Why doesn't anybody list Binondoo of the Philippines here? Is it OK if I go ahead and do it?--Jondel 08:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Chinatowns]]

message: Studied in Taipei during high school. Is he Chinese? He can speak Chinese.--Jondel 03:53, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Gringo Honasan]]

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
====Survey - Support votes====
#Support. While a lot of Chinese Filipinos in the Philippines tend to use "Filipino-Chinese", "Filipino Chinese", or "Chinese-Filipino," these are grammatically wrong. "Chinese Filipino" is the noun where "Chinese" is an adjective to the noun "Filipino." Whereas, "Chinese-Filipino" is used as an adjective. For instance, "Chinese-Filipino community", "Chinese-Filipino Catholic" or "Chinese-Filipino student."
References:
* http://www.librarylink.org.ph/revdetails.asp?rev=92 Palanca, Ellen / Clinton (ed.). Chinese Filipinos. 2003.
* http://www.philonline.com.ph/~kaisa/kaisa_fact.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anti beast (talk • contribs) 04:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: #Support. While a lot of Chinese Filipinos in the Philippines tend to use "Filipino-Chinese", "Filipino Chinese", or "Chinese-Filipino," these are grammatically wrong. "Chinese Filipino" is the noun where "Chinese" is an adjective to the noun "Filipino." Whereas, "Chinese-Filipino" is used as an adjective. For instance, "Chinese-Filipino community", "Chinese-Filipino Catholic" or "Chinese-Filipino student."
References:
* http://www.librarylink.org.ph/revdetails.asp?rev=92 Palanca, Ellen / Clinton (ed.). Chinese Filipinos. 2003.
* http://www.philonline.com.ph/~kaisa/kaisa_fact.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anti beast (talk • contribs) 04:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - Support votes

message: #Oppose.  The grammatical correctness arguments are bogus, not legitimately based on English usage.  Gene Nygaard 16:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - Oppose votes

message: I think it would be a good idea to put a list of common Filipino-Chinese names.
I know many of the surnames (mainly the Chinese Mestizo ones) are constructions upon the original Chinese name.. Eg. Originally Ong, now Rebong. FRM SYD 01:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Filipino Chinese Names]]

message: Should the Chinese-Filipino Canadians be in this list?TunaSushi (talk) 18:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If their public life is related to their Chinese-Filipino identity, then they should be included. Examples: Amy Chua is a Chinese-Filipino American; Tony Tan Kationg is a Chinese-Filipino Canadian, etc. Anti beast (talk) 02:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Chinese-Filipinos with Fujian Chinese ancestry 

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message: Take note that not all Filipino-Chinese are practitioners of folk religion+Buddhism+Taoism, many of them are also Christian, this grouping is racist and outdated, set your facts straight.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.42.146 (talk) 08:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian Filipinos and Chinese Filipinos absurd grouping! 

message: They did not come as a result of the Spanish invading the islands, they came long before the Spanish was there, as a result of the connections the Kingdoms in Luzon had, one of them being the Kingdom of Tondo, a lot of work needs to be improved on these articles, I wouldn't be so worried if people did not come to this site often for quick information.--Mangacha (talk) 11:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a mess on the chinese immigrants 

message: The people that you guys add in that list is not good. A few is enough. Remember that Wikipedia should only be for people with some sort of fame, achievement, or perhaps notoriety. They should also have their own Biography article. I know that there are lots of Chinese-Filipinos out there who qualify but please do not add them here unless you've expanded their article well enough to the point that they are "notable" and should be mentioned here. People come here to look for good examples of notable people. We shouldn't lead them to stubbed articles. This will not help increase the quality of this article. 
Also, add only Filipinos who were born, raise or has live/currently residing in the Philippines. We want to keep this article strictly about Filipino people both current and former residents. People have the right to remove anyone on that list if they are not notable enough. Remember that a Wikipedia article is not a directory of names.  Blueknightex (talk) 12:09, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Thank you to those who listened. Instead of putting them in this article, just put them under the category of :Category:Filipino people of Chinese descent but be sure to provide reliable sources :-) Bleubeatle (talk) 07:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop adding more Chinese-Filipinos in the "Notable people" section. Wikipedia is NOT a directory. [[WP:NOTDIRECTORY]] [[WP:NOTPROMOTION]] 

message: I think treating people like Jose Rizal and Emilio Aguinaldo as an example of Chinese Filipino is unappropriate.
Isn't it suppose to be meant to be like this?
Chinese - Filipino = Chinese ethnicity, Filipino nationality(living in the Philippines).
Spanish - Filipino = Spanish people, Filipino nationality (living in the Philippines).
If anything, Jose Rizal would be a better example of a  mestizo or a mestizo de sangley' but not a Chinese-Filipino simply because he had distant great-great-great fathers who are full Chinese. But of course, there is nothing wrong with putting him under the likes of :Category:Filipino people of Chinese descent because he really does. I just find it out-of-place to make them a great representation of Chinese-Filipinos in the Philippines. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you!  I think that Sergio Osmeña would be a great example since one of his parents, his mother, came directly from a Chinese-Filipino family. We don't know much his father though but the fact that we know enough about his mother's side is fine. As for Imee Marcos, her father had some mixed Chinese and Japanese ancestry and his Chinese heritage from his forefather seems too be very distant from his family tree. Her mother on the other hand is a Spanish mestizo. That would make Imee Marcos a Filipino mestizo herself and not a great example of Chinese Filipino. So I wouldn't suggest putting her. Bleubeatle (talk) 21:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Hi again. I've also evaluated Corazon Aquino. Her great grandfather appears to be Chinese-Filipino but that would be too far from her family tree to consider her a Chinese Filipino. Her parents were mestizos(mixed backgrounds) so she herself is a mestizo as well. So I've removed all 3 of them now.Bleubeatle (talk) 07:00, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Well, it said on Aguinaldo's bio that he was born into a family of Tagalog and Chinese descent. As the article mentioned, Chinese-Filipinos can be ethnic Chinese born in the Philippines, Filipino by nationality or Filipinos who have Chinese ancestors or even just Filipinos with Chinese ancestors...way back somewhere out there. Not typically same thing. There could be Tagalog-Chinese or Illocano-Chinese, or Hoklo Chinese born in the Philippines. These people still speak Hokkien as a native language. Rizal wasn't a good representation but Aguinaldo was. His bio explicitly states he is of Tagalog-Chinese descent. PacificWarrior101 (talk) 02:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Both the section and Emilio's biography article does not even contain any reliable sources in it. They need to be cited. You are right about people born by ethnic Chinese. But Emilio's bio says that they were of "Chinese and Filipino descent". That's all. It doesn't say anything about his parent's ethnic backgrounds. Filipino has many sub-categories underneath it. Because of the lack of information this would imply that they are Filipino mestizos of mixed Chinese, indigenous and possibly European descents. This would also make Aguinaldo a mestizo himself. For that reason he is not an accurate representation of a "Chinese-Filipino" so I removed him.   Bleubeatle (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jose Rizal and Emilio Aguinaldo are not accurate representations of Chinese-Filipino. 

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=5ibPY_65qGoC&pg=PA37&dq=Chinese+built+churches+print+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HZ2pUKK8CpOy0AHiqIHIBQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20built%20churches%20print%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=5ibPY_65qGoC&pg=PA41&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HJ-pUN3YI4K_0AGF0YGgBw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ierKfvqTm7oC&pg=PT31&dq=Chinese+built+churches++manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xp2pUNvCJpOG0QH8o4GwBQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAzgK
http://books.google.com/books?id=c4WqAOKb5c8C&pg=PA228&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=E10tnvapZt0C&pg=PA123&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=RQgjb3kvDLEC&pg=PA98&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CF8Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=VUZq93ydrrwC&pg=PA132&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ierKfvqTm7oC&pg=PT32#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ierKfvqTm7oC&pg=PT33#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=prmGhtAV4dwC&pg=PT59&dq=Chinese+built+churches++manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LcDSUJy6OePV0gHVnIGgBA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA
http://books.google.com/books?id=vG0BiLGG8aUC&pg=PA395&dq=Chinese+built+churches++manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LcDSUJy6OePV0gHVnIGgBA&ved=0CF8Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20built%20churches%20%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xrGAXH_ne4IC&pg=PA1075&dq=Chinese+built+churches++manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LcDSUJy6OePV0gHVnIGgBA&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20built%20churches%20%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=v-4c1-6kgHEC&pg=PA326#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xiOQdEzgP9kC&pg=PA65&dq=Chinese+massacre+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bqOpUKLiFrOB0AHI_oHQCA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20massacre%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=I1xBodSLU0cC&pg=PA10&dq=Chinese+massacre+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MaKpUK2AI5S40AG9-ICwAQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20massacre%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZUfNRG8IR44C&pg=PA13&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n8XSUPryFIng0gHdxIC4Cg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=WE8KciD9FdYC&pg=PA13&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sJ-pUP66KIu10QH5pIHYDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=lY-tY62V1FIC&pg=PA60&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CEoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20cobblers%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=3sEeAAAAMAAJ&q=Chinese+cobblers+manila&dq=Chinese+cobblers+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=18XSUIPvA6bH0AHHjIC4Dg&ved=0CGsQ6AEwCQ
http://books.google.com/books?id=LkwAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q&f=false
Chinese ghetto and persecution, non catholic "infidel" chinese restricted in their movements along with higher taxes than catholics
http://books.google.com/books?id=3JuYaDBWKIAC&pg=PA60&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xu-qULuVPIrG0AGS2oCwDg&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20spanish%20ghetto%20taxes&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=YFIGVqZ9ZKsC&pg=PA40&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xu-qULuVPIrG0AGS2oCwDg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20spanish%20ghetto%20taxes&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=5ibPY_65qGoC&pg=PA41&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xu-qULuVPIrG0AGS2oCwDg&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20spanish%20ghetto%20taxes&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=VbwogbQ3l8UC&pg=PT124&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=l--qUP_8IOex0QG-h4DAAQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA
http://books.google.com/books?id=VTmicfNaP00C&pg=PA125&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xu-qULuVPIrG0AGS2oCwDg&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20spanish%20ghetto%20taxes&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ggyl2FSzXvgC&pg=PA27&dq=Chinese+spanish+ghetto+taxes&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xu-qULuVPIrG0AGS2oCwDg&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20spanish%20ghetto%20taxes&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ih4rqkrcp70C&pg=PA297&dq=1603+chinese+heads++spanish&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4FqsUJzDCcix0QH26IFw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=1603%20chinese%20heads%20%20spanish&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=IY8eAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA100&dq=1603+chinese+heads++spanish&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4FqsUJzDCcix0QH26IFw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1603%20chinese%20heads%20%20spanish&f=false
spanish expulsion of "infidel" chinese from manila 
http://books.google.com/books?id=4wk8yqCEmJUC&pg=PA386&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=_yPbAxKOhsMC&pg=PA356#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=jzUz9lKn6PEC&pg=PA160&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xiOQdEzgP9kC&pg=PR20&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CFwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=I1xBodSLU0cC&pg=PA17&dq=1762+british+catholic+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AtTSUO7YIc6J0QGo_4CQDw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20catholic%20chinese%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=F3hE-3lDNQgC&pg=PA104&dq=1762+british+catholic+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EdbSUM76Fe6_0QH8rICYBg&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20catholic%20chinese%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=EwnzBiM0LmAC&pg=PA36&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false
Spanish plan to attack china
http://books.google.com/books?id=vG0BiLGG8aUC&pg=PA38&dq=Chinese+massacre+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XqGpUOWnEafs0QGVqIGICQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Chinese%20massacre%20manila&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=vG0BiLGG8aUC&pg=PA11&dq=spanish+invade+china&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BWGsUIfRAavJ0AGS4IHADg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=spanish%20invade%20china&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=kk_iU0f-iT8C&pg=PA96&dq=spanish+invade+china&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jGGsUOrlHe-r0AGtgoGQBA&ved=0CEcQ6AEwCDgU#v=onepage&q=spanish%20invade%20china&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=SiP7QWSxt_0C&pg=PA191&dq=spanish+invade+china&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BWGsUIfRAavJ0AGS4IHADg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=spanish%20invade%20china&f=false
Chinese relations with luzon
http://books.google.com/books?id=vG0BiLGG8aUC&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false
Chinese in pre colonial philippines
http://books.google.com/books?id=HakJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA326&dq=legazpi+culverin+chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XF6sUNS1LcfF0QG50IDwBw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20culverin%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tVhvh6ibLJcC&pg=PA354&dq=legazpi++chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UGCsULeIGuyx0AG76oDYBg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=zERymZzBQQYC&pg=PA51&dq=legazpi++chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UGCsULeIGuyx0AG76oDYBg&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xiOQdEzgP9kC&pg=PA50&dq=legazpi++chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=H1-sUO_NL8Ph0QH2rwE&ved=0CE0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=JWpF-dObxW8C&pg=PA1132&dq=legazpi+chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ul6sUIavJa230gHM7IGADA&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=qA29gOSVfWEC&pg=PA16&dq=legazpi++chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=H1-sUO_NL8Ph0QH2rwE&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20%20chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=H8BvkxoCVBgC&pg=PA35&dq=legazpi++chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=H1-sUO_NL8Ph0QH2rwE&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=legazpi%20%20chinese&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: chinese role in building colonial manila

message: Hello all. A question on whether the term 'Chinoy' should automatically redirect to Chinese Filipino, or if we could consider changing 'Chinoy' to a disambiguation page? I have recently added a page for Chinoy, the Chilean musician, but currently whenever you search for Chinoy it redirects straight to the Chinese Filipino page. For now, I have added a hatnote to this page linking to Chinoy (Musician). I would appreciate your thoughts on whether the redirect should be removed altogether and replaced with a disambiguation? Teamdulwich (talk) 19:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinoy: Redirect or disambiguation? 

message: Talk:Moro_people#Chinese_moro_relations
Talk:Sultanate_of_Sulu#China_relations
http://books.google.com/books?id=uChDbHq_MxoC&pg=PA237#v=onepage&q&f=false
A separate article should be created for Datu Piang. His father was Chinese and his mother was Moro. And apparently the Moros didn't practice Islam in its "correct" manner because his father was apparently not a Muslim and the Moros used these Panditas  to conduct marriage ceremonies instead of Imams
http://books.google.com/books?id=wYvwWcL0_DIC&pg=PA91#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=bOJLSyEIO9MC&pg=PA134#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Iq7_jDoi5PEC&pg=PA67#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=wYvwWcL0_DIC&pg=PA92#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=48g116X9IIwC&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=4EMIwfP-5x8C&pg=PA61#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Datu Piang, Gumbay Piang
Abdusakur Mahail Tan
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thread_title:  Chinese Muslim Mestizos mixed with Moros 

message: By Filipino gangs, the Philippine Armed Forces and police
http://books.google.com/books?id=cTx7AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA255&dq=kidnapping+rich+philippines+Chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XCdMU7GvEvOssASuw4GwAw&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20rich%20philippines%20Chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=aiQ09D7nWxYC&pg=PA998&dq=kidnapping+police+philippines+Chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jClMU-S3IMHisATW6YKABQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20police%20philippines%20Chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=8mf8YUky_mMC&pg=PA202&dq=kidnapping+police+philippines+Chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jClMU-S3IMHisATW6YKABQ&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20police%20philippines%20Chinese&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=lSy_znOimNgC&pg=PA123&dq=kidnapping+rich+disturbed+University+philippines+Chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6idMU5rqJsHmsASF1ICIAQ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20rich%20disturbed%20University%20philippines%20Chinese&f=false
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http://books.google.com/books?id=lISGiGDW2Z0C&pg=PA141&dq=kidnapping+rich+University+philippines+Chinese+perfect+victim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KShMU5yfGImksQSQsoCoCQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20rich%20University%20philippines%20Chinese%20perfect%20victim&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=lISGiGDW2Z0C&pg=PA128&dq=Caroline+Hau&sig=ACfU3U1HXFgvR6c6gpVFnIf9BFWFlYKQgQ#v=onepage&q=Caroline%20Hau&f=false
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http://books.google.com/books?id=V6CEAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA288&dq=kidnapping+rich+philippines+Chinese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XCdMU7GvEvOssASuw4GwAw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=kidnapping%20rich%20philippines%20Chinese&f=false
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http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/17/world/kidnapping-of-ethnic-chinese-rises-in-philippines.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/24/world/chinese-filipinos-protest-ransom-kidnappings.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/28/business/in-manila-kidnapping-as-a-business-expense.html
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-12-08/news/0312080151_1_kidnappings-ransom-hong-kong
http://myphilippinelife.com/crime-against-foreigners-philippines/
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https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/amy-chua-philippines-chinese-minority-free-market-democracy-ethnic-hatred/
http://www.arlindo-correia.com/120604.html
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2004/feb/21/highereducation.news
http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people4/Chua/chua-con2.html
18:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filipino kidnappings and crime targeted at Chinese 

message: Many of the claims made on this page stem from something written by Amy Chua. Is she really a legitimate enough source to quote in order to substantiate those claims? She's a corporate lawyer, but there's no indication she's an expert on the Philippine economy or Filipino-Chinese culture. FYAYP (talk) 01:51, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amy Chua?! 

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message: Over 30% of Chinese Filipinos speak English as their first language? How? Why?210.185.164.185 (talk) 14:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It has something to do with English being a formal prestige language in the Philippines, since it is the country's primary language for academe, commerce, and government. Also, I don't think this is something unique to Chinese Filipinos in the Philippines, since I have met other filipinos, not necessarily chinese filipino, that also has English as their preferred native first language, with Tagalog/Filipino or other regional languages as their second or third language. As far as I know, both those other filipinos, which includes these chinese filipinos, who have English as their first language have it as their first mainly because they've been raised most primarily in English all throughout their childhood, especially when their families primarily spoke to them in English since birth, their schooling was mostly done in English, and the popular media culture they consumed from TV, movies, internet, and the popular leisure spots across the country like malls all primarily used English. The people who grew up like this also typically are not confident with their grasp of local languages like Tagalog/Filipino or Cebuano Bisaya, so in truth, their first language is indeed English, but of course many still glaze their sentences with the occasional Philippine English or Taglish or Bislish tendencies. This is mostly rooted and evident usually in upper and upper middle class families across the country, which that demographic of identifiable Chinese Filipinos usually are a part of, as opposed to assimilated Chinese mestizos who might no longer identify as Chinese Filipino.--Mlgc1998 (talk) 15:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That claim is simply false and was obviously unsourced, just like the answer you received here from the previous editor which was also full of subjective appreciations not supported by any empirical evidence. Filipinos don't have English as their native language, they learn English at the school not at home. Only because many Filipinos are fluent in English, it doesn't follow that their second language is Filipino/Tagalog. It just means they are fluent in English despite the fact that Filipino is their native language. Filipinos use Filipino in daily conversation outside their academic or commercial job, not English. James343e (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  30% are Native English speakers? 

message: There are flaws in this section which needs to be addressed. Here are the following main flaws:
1) Majority of the sources are based on Amy Chua, specifically her book entitled World on Fire. We need a diverse number of sources to ensure the credibility of information posted here. We need to ensure that this is not any biased information for or against the Chinese Filipino community. 
Moreover, is her book a credible source? I understand that it is a book, but her credentials are being a graduate in economics and in law (in the United States of America). How was she able to come up with the "facts" she stated? What was her basis for the information in her book?
These are the reasons and questions on why we should not let one reference monopolize information posted in Wikipedia.
2) Her book is old (2002 or 2003). It is 2019 right now which means we need an updated source of information. The situation 17 years ago might have already changed.
Jhlletras (talk) 13:23, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade and industry 

message: I recommend that we remove Hokaglish or put in under draft until the situation of languageness has been resolved.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Huangjinshun (talk • contribs) 13:41, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Hokaglish is not a language. It is code-switching phenomenon

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message: Since when on earth has the Filipino government ever established a "socialist or communist dictatorship?" Who wrote this uninformed drivel? And it goes on to say that this was "during the 1950s and 1960s." There was one dictatorship, and it sure as hell was not during the '50s and '60s. Martial Law was declared in '72. 2001:4450:4527:8000:804:1D65:3462:DE91 (talk) 07:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Filipino government has dealt with this wealth disparity by establishing socialist and communist dictatorships"