Talk:Kesavananda Bharati v. State of Kerala

message: Under U.S Supreme Court?? (Categories) ?? Venkatesh Nandakumar (talk) 11:27, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed LegalEagle (talk) 13:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: The article is very hard to understand, and really just communicates that the ruling was good. There is no nuance. Lots of work to do to put it in context. Mottezen (talk) 06:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Mottezen, Can you please elaborate? LΞVIXIUS💬 06:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Also WP:NPOV suggests that the article has not been written from a 'neutral point of view'. Reading this article that does not seem to jump out. Your note seems to be about writing style, which is different from WP:NPOV. I will remove the WP:NPOV tag. Please add an updated rationale here if the tag needs to be reintroduced, and we can do that. Ktin (talk) 07:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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message: Since the discussion of 20 March 2021, there has been a consensus on merging [Template:Infobox SCI Case] with [Template:Infobox court case]. I'm new but I'm going to try to convert each existing SCI Case to the Courtcase infobox without altering appearance first to try to further the merge. Any suggestions or advice? Semanticz0 (talk) 10:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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message: The theory that 368 (1) voids simple majority amendment is the editor's and the editor's alone and would thus have no place on Wikipedia even if it were true. Incidentally, it isn't, as Kasavanda makes clear:
"…the Constitution can be amended not only under Article 368 but also under Article 4, Article 169, Paragraph 7 of Schedule V and Paragraph 21 of Schedule VI. Amendments under these provisions can be effected by Parliament by a simple majority vote… (665)"
506e is irrelevant to the question of the amendment powers granted by Article 4 et al., for several reasons:
	1) It says "368 does not enable", not 368 forbids. Simple majority amendment is enabled by Article 4 et al. and thus has no need of enabling by 368. 368 (1) forbids nothing. It is a simple "may" clause, in contrast to 368 (2), which includes a "may…only" clause that forbids amendment (for which purposes certain amendments shall not be deemed so) otherwise than by two-thirds majorities.
	2) What it says 368 does not enable is a certain delegation "from Parliament in its constituent capacity". Thus, 368 does not enable Parliament to vote by two-thirds majorities to enable itself in its ordinary legislative capacity to do what it is not already enabled to do in its ordinary legislative capacity. That clearly has no bearing on the amendment powers delegated to Parliament in its ordinary legislative capacity not by Parliament but by the Constituent Assembly via the Constitution.
	3) It does not define "amending" (indeed, the Court reiterates throughout its opinion that "amend" means different things in different contexts). If 368 (1) said, "Notwithstanding anything in this Constitution, all amendments in the broadest sense shall be deemed amendments for the purposes of this article", that would be one thing; Article 4 et al.'s instructions on how to deem the amendments they enable would conflict with 368 (1)'s, and 368 (1)'s would prevail. But 368 (1) includes no such instructions, which should not be surprising when one considers that the intent was clearly not to void simple majority amendment, but rather to affirm that any provision can be amended in any way.
	
As A.K. Roy observes, quoting 368 (1), the constituent power is the power to amend "any provision". A power so broad in scope is, accordingly, reserved to Parliament in its constituent capacity with its supermajority requirements. The power granted by Article 4 et al., to amend certain provisions, is narrower in scope and, accordingly, may be exercised by simple majority. Pennythugginit (talk) 22:18, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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