Talk:Albrecht Brandi

message: The U617 beached  at Spanish Morocco Coast on 12 sep 1943. It was attacked by  a) 2 Vickers Wellington from 179 Sqn.
                                                                               b) 2 Lockheed Hudson from 48 Sqn
                                                                               c) Corvette HMS Hyacinth K84
                                                                               d) Minesweeper HMAS Wollongong
                                                                               e) Trawler  Haarlem
                                                                               f) 1 Fairey Swordfish from Fleet Air Arm
but not by Short Sunderland. The previous day had sunk HMS Puckeridge off Gibraltar.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.39.118.236 (talk) 21:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Moving here as unreliably cited to a self-published web site: 
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As commander of U-617, U-380 and U-967, Brandi claimed, and was credited with, sinking 20 ships of , 3 cruisers and 12 destroyers. Although ships sunk in the Mediterranean were doubled for award purposes, and extra credit was given for sinking warships, Brandi's actual sinkings were "startlingly less" according to Blair. The verifiable total was:
*8 ships sunk for a total of 
*1 auxiliary warship sunk for a total of 
*3 warships sunk for a total of 
Date             	U-boat	Name of Ship          	Nationality	Tonnage	Fate
7 September 1942 	U-617 	Tor II                	           	292    	Sunk at
23 September 1942	U-617 	Athelsultan           	           	8,882  	Sunk at
23 September 1942	U-617 	Tennessee             	           	2,342  	Sunk at
24 September 1942	U-617 	Roumanie              	           	3,563  	Sunk at
28 December 1942 	U-617 	                      	           	810    	Sunk at
15 January 1943  	U-617 	Annitsa               	           	4,324  	Sunk at
15 January 1943  	U-617 	Harboe Jensen         	           	1,862  	Sunk at
1 February 1943  	U-617 	                      	           	2,650  	Sunk at
5 February 1943  	U-617 	Corona                	           	3,264  	Sunk at
5 February 1943  	U-617 	Henrik                	           	1,350  	Sunk at
6 September 1943 	U-617 	                      	           	1,050  	Sunk at
5 May 1944       	U-967 	USS Fechteler (DE-157)	           	1,300  	Sunk at
K.e.coffman (talk) 00:43, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly is your problem? The claims have been checked against actual sinkings and the results published. I don't see why the list should not be reliable. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 08:32, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are these ships being cited to Blair then? From the way the cites are presented, it looked to me that they were being cited to uboat.net. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:12, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Uboat.net is using Blair as a source among others, mostly Busch/Röll (2001) and the like. I find the site the most accurate, ubiased, uptodate, accessible English-language source on German submarines, so maybe you want to raise the issue with the Reliable Sources noticeboard. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 09:56, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ships purportedly attacked