Talk:Dressage

message: Just announcing that I am going to throw my hat in the ring on this one very shortly, forgive the pun. The historical development of Dressage should be included here especially since the statement in the intro that "little has changed" since the rennaissance is only true in spirit.  Techniques and intents in those days were highly militiristic.  Secondly, a whole separate article is warranted by the Spanische Hofreitschule, if only for its connection with the Hapsburg Charles I/V, Patton and others. --Domhail 08:33, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks as if there is an article on the school here already.  Anyway, we need work on the history of Dressage's development as a sport distinct from its roots as advanced cavalry training. --Domhail 09:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old miscellany

message: From talking to judges when there are the maximum five judges, they are located at C, at the two corners by C (looking down the long sides), and at B and E. If my graphics skills were better I'd like to have these positions marked in the Arena picture, maybe with arrorws. Any volunteers? MartinRe 00:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Judge Locations

message: Can those of you who have more knowledge in the field of dressage possibly elaborate on the FEI levels? I put down as much a I knew, but the distinction between PSG, I1, I2, and GP are a little fuzzy for me. --Eventer 06:44, 10 February 2006
:I find the comparasion bettwen levels for US/FEI/UK a little hard to read. Is there a better format for this info, maybe one tabel with first column being what's expected, and the following columns showing what level that is at? Or a separate list for the expectation, with details showing that level x in US/UK requires up to item y. Or are the level grades sufficently different that trying to combine them together be unworkable? MartinRe 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Levels

message: The link called "More information on the Airs Above the Ground" is broken. I have not fixed it because the possible replacement,
http://www.horsemanpro.com/articles2/dressage.htm
appears to be an anti-dressage polemic. It does not seem right to include such a link without also providing additional information about the controversy that is put forth by the owner or author of the horsemanpro website, apparently one "J.G."
Our choices seem to be:
A. Remove the link entirely.
B. Replace the broken link with a link to the polemic.
C. "B" plus added paragraphs on the matters raised by the polemic.
Snezzy 22:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Polemic" is an understatement.  That "horseman pro" site is apparently run by a lunatic.  Other pages there claim that women lack the correct hip structure to ride and other total nonsense, that definitely is NOT a suitable link for wikipedia.  As for links generally, I'm pretty much with DressageDirectory, at least to a point,  The user pages at WP:EL (external links) sort of define the guidelines and User:I@n is pretty good about explaining it.  The basic idea is that commercial stuff is OUT, chat groups and BBs are OUT, links to basic stuff should be incorporated into the article itself, and links to more links are frowned upon.  Links to rules or "official" web sites are suitable, citations and bibliographies are suitable for people who want to know our source material, etc.  A huge number of links can be unweildy.  My own rule of thumb is that if a link allows someone to quickly learn more useful information, it is probably OK; if not, why is it there?  Montanabw 01:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to www.horsemanpro.com 

message: DR121 Saddlery and Equipment.
1. An English type saddle with stirrups is compulsory for Federation and USDF tests. An
English type saddle may be constructed with or without a tree but cannot have a horn,
swell, gallerie, or open gullet. Australian, Baroque, Endurance, McClellan, Spanish, Stock,
or Western saddles are not permitted nor are modified versions of these saddles (exception:
competitors with a current approved Federation Dispensation Certificate). A Dressage
saddle which must be close to the horse and have long, near-vertical flaps and stirrups is
compulsory for FEI tests. Saddle pads are optional, but should be white or of conservative
color. While present in the competition area and during prize-giving ceremonies, the name
and/or logo of the individual’s sponsor(s) may appear on a surface area not exceeding 200
cm2 on each side of the saddle cloth. Breed logos (for horses registered with that breed),
national flags (for citizens of that country), and business/farm names or logos (used with
DR14 © USEF 2007
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© USEF 2007 DR15
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permission of farm/business owner) are also permitted and must have the same
specifications as sponsor logos. No other advertisement or publicity is permitted on saddle
cloths or horses.
2. For Training, First and Second Level tests and FEI Pony tests, a plain snaffle bridle is
required with a regular cavesson, a dropped noseband, a flash noseband (a combination of
a cavesson noseband and a dropped noseband attachment) or a crossed noseband.
Except for the FEI Pony tests, a crescent noseband is also permitted at these levels. Except
for the crescent noseband, buckles and a small disk of sheepskin, which may be used in the
intersection of the two leather straps of a crossed noseband, the noseband must be made
entirely of leather or leather-like material. A padded noseband is allowed.
3. For Federation Third and Fourth Level tests same as (2) above, or a simple double
bridle (bridoon (snaffle) and bit (curb) and curb chain, lip strap and rubber or leather cover
for curb chain optional, cavesson noseband only).
4. FEI tests (including FEI Junior Team and Individual Tests) a simple double bridle as
above. For the FEI Junior Preliminary Test, a plain snaffle bridle or simple double bridle may
be used, as above in DR121.2-.3. For the FEI Dressage Tests for 4, 5, and 6-year-old
horses and the USEF Dressage Test for 4-year old horses, a plain snaffle bridle is required,
as above (DR121.2). However, when a snaffle is used in FEI tests, a crescent noseband is
not permitted and a snaffle is required as described in Figure I and as pictured in Figure 1B.
In addition to the crescent noseband, the crossed (figure-8, Mexican) noseband is not
permitted for the FEI Dressage Tests for 4, 5,and 6-year-old horses and the USEF test for
4-year old horses.
5. Only those bits listed with Figure 1 are allowed. At any level of competition, a cavesson
noseband may never be so tightly fixed that it causes severe irritation to the skin. Cavesson
nosebands may be used with a chin pad. At any level of competition, a browband may be
multicolored and may be decorated with metal, beads, gemstones and crystals.
BOD 1/15/06 Effective 12/1/06
6. Martingales, bit guards, any kind of gadgets (such as bearing, side, running, balancing
reins, nasal strips, tongue tied down, etc.), any kind of boots (including “easy-boots”) or
bandages (including tail bandages) and any form of blinkers, earmuffs or plugs, nose
covers, seat covers, hoods are, under penalty of elimination, strictly forbidden. Fly hoods
(ear covers) will only be permitted in order to protect horses from insects. The fly hoods
should be discreet and should not cover the horse’s eyes, and will only be permitted in
extreme cases at the discretion of the presiding judge(s). Permission must be granted prior
to the class and applies to all competitors in the class. However, leg bandages are allowed
in Pas de Deux and Quadrille classes. A breastplate and/or crupper may be used, except
that a breastplate is not permitted in USEF High Performance Championships, USEF High
Performance Qualifying and Selection Trials, and Observation classes. A rein is a
continuous, uninterrupted strap or line from the bridle bit to the hand. Rein additions or
attachments are not permitted. Each bit must be attached to a separate rein and reins may
only be attached to bits. Any decoration of the horse with extravagant items, such as
ribbons or flowers, etc. in the mane, tail, etc., is strictly forbidden. Braiding of the horse’s
mane and tail, however, is permitted. False tails are permitted and if used may not contain
any metal parts.
7. The above restrictions (1-6) apply to warm-up and other training areas, however, running
martingales (with snaffle only), boots, bandages (without magnets) and ear muffs are
permitted. Fly hoods (ear covers) that do not cover the horse’s eyes are permitted in warm-up
and other training areas. Single direct side reins are permitted only when lungeing (mounted
or unmounted). Only one lunge line is permitted only while lungeing. Driving or long lining is
prohibited. A side rein is defined as an auxiliary rein affixed to the bit and to the girth, saddle or
surcingle on the side of the hose (not between the legs). A lunge line must attach only to the
bridle, halter or cavesson and go directly to the hand of the longeur. Horses competing at
Third Level and above may be warmed up in a snaffle if the rider so chooses. (Exception: For
breed-restricted Arabian competition see Chapter AR, Subchapter AR-11). A running
martingale consists of a divided strap attached to the girth or breastplate (at the front of the
horse’s chest); the extension of each strap must be connected from the point of division only
to the rein on the same side and must be free to slide. The rings through which the reins slide
may not be connected to a neck strap. BOD 1/15/06 Effective 12/1/06
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8. Ring stewards appointed by competition management must check saddlery and inspect
bits and spurs on both sides of the horse for at least one-third of the horses in each class.
Inspection of saddlery and bits in classes of five or fewer must be done at the direction of
the technical delegate. Inspection of saddlery and bits must be done immediately as the
horse leaves the arena. (See DR126.10) The checking of the bridle must be done with the
greatest caution, as some horses are very touchy and sensitive about their mouths. Bit
inspectors must use a new disposable protective glove for each horse. The responsibility
for the correct attire and equipment, however, still rests with the competitor.
BOD 1/15/06 Effective 12/1/06
9. The following whips are permitted for schooling only: One whip no longer than 43.3.
inches (110 cm), including lash, may be carried by the rider when mounted. One lungeing
whip is permitted only when lungeing. One whip no longer than 43.3 inches (110 cm)
including lash may be carried in all classes except USEF/USDF Championships,
Federation Junior Team Championships, Championships for 5 and 6-year old horses,
NAYRC qualifying classes, USEF High Performance Championships, USEF High
Performance qualifying and selection trials, and observation classes. (Exception:
Competitors riding sidesaddle may carry a whip no longer than 43.3 inches (110 cm),
including lash, in Federation/USDF Championships.) An adjustable-length whip may not be
carried by a mounted rider. BOD 1/15/06 Effective 12/1/06
10. Numbers must be worn at all times when a horse is being exercised or ridden.
11. Individuals holding Federation Dispensation Certificates may use special saddlery and
equipment as specifically listed on their Certificate. The following equipment is permitted if
listed on the certificate:
a. Any well fitted saddle that is suited to the needs of the rider.
b. Devonshire, western, or oxbow stirrups, tethers from stirrups to girth; seat covers;
velcro and rubber bands (provided the equipment allows the rider to fall from the
horse). Break-away safety stirrups are required if the rider’s feet are secured into the
stirrups and shoes with distinguishable heels must be worn.
c. Except for sidesaddle, either two stirrups or no stirrups must be used, unless rider
has one leg and no prosthesis on other leg.
d. Adapted or bridged reins. If the rein is not be used in a conventional manner, it
must be in as straight a line as possible from the normal hand position (as described in
DR117) to the horse’s mouth.
e. One or two whips, not to exceed 4’ in length.
12. Horses may only be exercised and ridden in management-designated areas on the
competition grounds.
13. The following rules apply exclusively to USEF High Performance qualifying and
selection trials, and observation classes.
a. Upon arrival on the showground, only the rider when riding, walking, leading or
lungeing a horse (lunge whip allowed) is allowed to carry a whip (maximum 110 cm)
anywhere on the showground. The groom may also walk, lead and lunge a horse as
above. Other parties are allowed to carry a whip, provided it is not in connection with
the training of the horse. Under no circumstance is it allowed to school the horses in the
stables.
b. The whip must be dropped before entering the space around the competition arena
or the rider will receive a penalty of 4 points per judge.
c. The following bit is permitted for use either as a snaffle or bridoon:
(Snaffle or bridoon with rotating middle piece)
Figure 1. Bits Permitted in Dressage.
All bits (in A and B below) must be smooth and with a solid surface. Twisted, wire and roller
bits are prohibited. A bushing or coupling is permitted as the center link in a double jointed
snaffle, however, the surface of the center piece must be solid with no moveable parts. The
mouthpiece of a snaffle may be shaped in a slight curve, but ported snaffles are prohibited.
A bridoon is defined as a snaffle bit used together with a curb bit to form a double bridle.
Bits (including curb and/or bridoon bits of a double bridle) must be made of metal or rigid
plastic and may be covered with rubber; flexible rubber bits are not permitted, except as
noted below, under A. The diameter of the snaffle or bridoon mouthpiece must be minimum
3/8 inch diameter at rings or cheeks of the mouthpiece (exception: for ponies, the diameter
may be less than 3/8 inches). Any bit combining any mouthpiece pictured in Figure 1A with
any cheekpiece pictured in Figure 1A is permitted. Type of bit should not vary from those
pictured below except where specified, and bits should be attached only as pictured in
diagram. NOTE: FEI Level riders may warm up only in a double bridle (with both bit and/or
bridoon made of metal or rigid plastic) or metal or rigid plastic snaffles pictured under B. In
both cases, bits may be covered with rubber and flexible rubber bits are not permitted. A
cavesson, dropped, crossed or flash noseband is allowed when a snaffle bridle is used in
warm-up. BOD 1/15/06 Effective 12/1/06
A. PERMITTED SNAFFLES* (Must be used in Training-Second Level Tests. Optional in
Third and Fourth Level Tests.)
*Any of the above may be made with a rubber, plastic or leather covering, but the bit may
not be modified by adding latex or other material. Bits with mouthpieces made of synthetic
material are permitted, provided that the contours of the bit conform to the contours of one
of the bits pictured above. Flexible rubber or synthetic mouthpieces are permitted.
1. Ordinary snaffle with single-jointed
mouthpiece.
2. Ordinary snaffle with double-jointed
mouthpiece.
3. Racing snaffle (D-ring).
4. Snaffle. A) with cheecks, with or without
keepers.
B) without cheeks (Egg-butt).
5. Snaffle with upper or lower cheeks.
6. Unjointed snaffle (Mullen-mouth).
7. Snaffle with cheeks. (Hanging or drop
cheek; Baucher). This may be a D-ring
or other ordinary snaffle as pictured in
Nos. 1-6.
8. Dr. Bristol.
9. Fulmer.
10. French snaffle.
11. Snaffle with rotating mouthpiece.
© USEF 2007 DR17
DR-DRESSAGE
B. PERMITTED BRIDOON, CURB AND SNAFFLE BITS (Must be used in FEI Level Tests.
Optional in Third and Fourth Level Tests) (Reprinted from the FEI Rules for Dressage
Events, 2003 edition)
1. Various double bridle bits
Bridoons:
1. Loose ring bridoon bit.
2. a.b.c. Bridoon bit with jointed mouthpiece
where the middle piece should be rounded.
(Note: A Dr. Bristol bit is not permitted.)
3. Egg-butt bridoon bit.
4. Bridoon bit with hanging cheeks.
Curbs:
5. Half-moon curb bit.
6. & 7. Curb bit with straight cheeks and port.
8. Curb bit with port & sliding mouthpiece
(Weymouth)
A curb bit with rotating lever arm is also
allowed.
9. Variation of bits Nos. 6, 7 & 8.
10. Curb bit with S-curved cheeks.
11. Curb chain (metal or leather or a
combination).
12. Lip strap.
13. Leather cover for curb chain.
14. Rubber cover for curb chain.
DR18 © USEF 2007
DR-DRESSAGE
Figure 2. Correct bit measurement. The lever arm of the curb bit must not exceed 10 cm.
(length below the mouthpiece). If the curb has a sliding mouthpiece, the lever arm of the
curb bit below the mouthpiece must not measure more than 10 cm. when the mouthpiece is
at the uppermost position.
GmaRocks 19:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   rules on tack--someone want to paraphrase? 

message: I just want to say that I think this article needs more pictures. I would like to see more of the dressage ring and moves. 68.110.232.148 16:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find appropriate COPYRIGHT free images suitable for Wikipedia, we always welcome more uploads to Wikimedia Commons!   If you find some, let us know on this talk page! It's very difficult to find quality public domain and GDFL photos of horses in general.  Montanabw 04:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes Category:horses will do the trick.  But putting the link here on the talk page like you just did is a good way to get them to the people who need them most!  Thanks! Montanabw 03:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Good point; someone was trying to help by adding video to articles, but...  Montanabw(talk) 04:22, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: I read the Classical dressage article, and I don't understand well why there are two different pages with so similar a content (see, as an example, the list of air movements and their definition). I put a "merge" template there, and there's a beginning talk about. --Alex_brollo Talk|Contrib 11:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe put the "merrgefrom" template on this article and see what shakes out, may get more comments. Montanabw(talk) 16:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical dressage 

message: I think the section on scoring is wrong - a rider who gets 80% does not get a score of 80, and high scores are not good. The lower the score, the better - ie, scores in the 30s are impressive, scores in the 50s are much less so. I've heard you take the percentage score away from 100 and multiply by 1.5 for FEI events, so 80% gives a score of 30. Am I correct? -- 82.33.182.39 (talk) 01:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I thibnk the proble  here could be the difference between dressage scoring in dressage competitions and eventing competitions. In dressage competitions the 'score' peopel are seen to have are the percetnage the socre, say 80%. In eventing however, the 'score' people are seen to have are the penalities. So if you have a score of 80% you'd take forward something like 20 penalities (though I'm not sure if these penalty points are adjusted). Does that make sense? Evil Eye (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask User:Eventer about scoring in Eventing, she will know.  All I know is Dressage scoring per USEF and USDF rules. Montanabw(talk) 04:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellany

message: 01-Oct-2008: I have added subheaders above as "Topics from 2006" (etc.) to emphasize the dates of topics in the talk-page. Older topics might still apply, but using the year headers helps to focus on more current issues as well. Afterward, I moved the Miscellany-topic into date order for 2008, and dated/named unsigned comments. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We could just make an archive for the old stuff, that might be easier.  I find creating archives a pain in the you-now-what, so I like to "delegate" the task to others (grin), but that may be better than rearranging the talk page.  It also isn't a moral issue, just a thought!  Montanabw(talk) 20:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Retrofit topic year headers

message: 01-Oct-2008: There are several long-term issues that apply here, as well as to formatting of other articles on Wikipedia:
:* Add both conversions of meters with feet in Wikipedia articles.
:* Avoid commas/periods inside quotes: Wikipedia has been using "logical quotations" which keep commas outside, so I add parentheses as a trick to nest quote-marks & keep the commas/periods outside:
::::::::zero being "not executed" (and 10 being "excellent").
:* Always capitalize German nouns (such as "Durchlässigkeit").
:* Avoid bold-face text, except as the title words for the article.
:* Use Notes/References: Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout (WP:GUIDE).
:* Add a period after each reference in References & in footnotes.
:* It is no longer standard to link dates for date-format preferences.
Those are some of the simple issues about article formatting that new Wikipedia users might not have known yet. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the input.  Bottom line is that there are something like 1800 articles in WikiProject Equine and only about three editors who actively care about this stuff on a regular basis (of whom I am one). So if you want to tweak the style stuff here, go for it, we need all the help we can get!   The "logical quotations" question goes back and forth so much that I can't keep up--so this week it's punctuation outside.  Whatever. Someone else will probably change it again next month.  I'm a cynic on that topic. (smile)  Anyway, thanks again and feel free to fix.  On distance, the FEI and USDF all use meters as a universal measurement, so that needs to be the first-placed measurement if you insert convert templates.  On heigh of horses themselves, not sure if mentioned in this article, but just remember that we measure horses in hands and no one has yet figured out a workable convert template for that one!  We are slowly moving toward cite templates, so if you want to throw in a few, that too would be cool.  Thanks again. Montanabw(talk) 20:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup October 2008

message: Podhajsky didn't save the Lipizzans in Hostau!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conversano Isabella (talk • contribs) 19:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (Smile)  Technically, it was the American Army!  (LOL!)  Can we credit George Patton?  (Actually, Patton's book notes that they flew Poshajsky into Hostau for something...?).  Any further clarification would be helpful, acutally.  And by the way, can you also look at [{Classical dressage]] when you have a chance?  It was split from this article a while back due to a difference of opinion over competitive Dressage vs the Spanish Riding School/Samur/etc programs.  Montanabw(talk) 23:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Alois Podhajsky

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Grand_Prix_Dressage. -- John (Daytona2 ·  Talk ·  Contribs) 10:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Grand_Prix_Dressage

message: Under "TESTS", please correct the name of the organization.  Currently, it reads as follows:
"At the upper levels, tests for International competitions, including the Olympics, are issued under the auspices of the Federation Internationale Equestre."  The words "Internationale" and "Equestre" are reversed.
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.3.156.138 (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are welcome to fix it yourself. Requests in talk pages usually take some time to be fulfilled. I'll see to this. Pitke (talk) 18:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  REQUEST FOR CORRECTION in article. 

message: I believe the section "International Level" should be slightly amended, in the paragraphs referring to "Extended Gaits" and "Collected gaits". Currently the article appears to infer extension and collection are only to be performed at trot and canter, but these gaits are required in all three paces - walk, trot and canter. http://www.fei.org/sites/default/files/file/OFFICIALS%20%26%20ORGANISERS/ORGANISERS/DRESSAGE/Dressage%20Tests/GP_09_1.pdf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lifelike001 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to tweak it, preferably with a reference to the FEI rules that support this.  There IS an alternative philosophical position that extension is, in fact, only really something for the trot and canter, but whatever FEI says is probably the way to go. Montanabw(talk) 23:19, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for clarification of section 

message: I had never heard of "Dressage" before the US Presidential election in 2012, in which GOP candidate Mitt Romney's wife Ann Romney gained popular attention for her ownership of an Olympic horse competing in Dressage. Seems worth mentioning that this sport gained the attention of the zeitgeist, especially in the US, with the 2012 olympics and the election, doesn't it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.208.242.74 (talk) 17:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been to dressage competitions in Devon, Pennsylvania, so I did know a little bit about the sport when Ann Romney explained why dressage was important in her recovery from multiple sclerosis. What I want to know now is how did her horse do in the Olympics?--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:39, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

text: "Pop culture reference" sections tend to be completely redundant and irrelevant laundry lists. Unless Romney's ownership of a dressage horse or public mentions of the sport somehow become important for the public image of dressage or something like that, they are not worth mentioning here. Pitke (talk) 22:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree that trivia about Ann Romney's horse is probably best covered in the Ann Romney article, not here.  While the notoriety that Stephen Colbert brought to dressage this summer was entertaining, I agree with Pitke that once we start adding this sort of stuff (famous people who ride/own horses), it expands exponentially; I realize that we have a current Presidential campaign issue tied in here, but, as a comparison, Princess Anne has competed in eventing at the Olympic level and we don't mention her in the eventing article.  So I see no reason to go there with this case, either.  Montanabw(talk) 21:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  is it worth including pop culture references? 

message: In the UK, whips aren't allowed at regional championships as well as nationals. Is this also the case elsewhere? I'm happy to make the edit, but don't want to cause confusion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.170.94.199 (talk) 14:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Whips at championships

message: File:WC07d.JPG|Canter
File:Uitgestrektedraf.jpg|Extended trot
File:2011 FEI 112.jpg|Canter at FEI level
White Arabian mare (Neigh) 15:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The first canter one is already in there, but I've never cared for it much because the horse is cranking its tail in irritation, it could be replaced by the gray.  I do like the extended trot, it could be placed in there somewhere, in addition to what's there already.  Good finds. Montanabw(talk) 02:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any of these pictures needed? 

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message: ie https://horseracingsense.com/is-dressage-cruel-horses-sport-training/
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just a thought 38.73.253.217 (talk) 08:40, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  There should be some section on potential animal cruelty 

message: Hallo, I know nothing about dressage but am creating a stub for Jonquil Solt. (I had her on my "to do sometime" list, I think after hearing a news item about her death, and this month's Women in Red alphabetical theme of "I and J" inspired me to start the article now.) The term Ground jury crops up in various sources, and I see from searching Wikipedia that in many articles on specific dressage competitions there are people named as "Ground jury", but it isn't an obvious term to the outsider. I hoped to find it defined somewhere in this article, but it isn't mentioned. Could someone perhaps add a description of "Ground jury" to this or another relevant article, and make the above red link into a blue link, either as an article title or, more likely, as a redirect to an appropriate section? Thanks in advance! PamD 15:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ground jury]]: please turn this red link blue