Talk:Zanzibar Revolution

message: The article talks about a massacre and yet the title says it is a revolution. I'm requesting a new title [Zanzibar massacre]. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 14:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move proposal

message: Zanzibar64 10:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zanzibar Revolution 

message: A few questions, comments etc for the subject expert(s)... EyeSerenetalk 10:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had meant to develop Okello's article further but haven't got round to it (not enough time on my hands for another big article yet).  The mention of Karume and Babu not being informed about the coup seems to have remained from an early form of the article.  I have not seen any references in the sources I have access to about this fact and I think it may have come from Okello's autobiography (which is not a reliable source).  I will take a look and see if I can find an RS that states this.  It is a similar case with the claim about Babu, his article is sourced to two dubious websites.  Non of the newspaper archives that I can access have details about his involvement, just that four gunmen shot him.  I will continue looking though.  It is a shame that there I could find very few RS about the actual revolution as it is a very important time in East Africa's history but the only part covered in detail is the immediate aftermath and the British plans.  Thanks for bringing this up - Dumelow (talk) 14:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, I'm not surprised at the difficulties you've had with sourcing, given the nature of the subject ;) I think it's right to go with what we can source over concerns about completeness. EyeSerenetalk 12:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Again I have drawn a blank in this area. There doesn't seem to be much recorded about the planning of the revolution.  Speller mentions a few things which I will add shortly.  He also says that the British civil disorder predictions were accompanied by intelligence of increased Communist activity in the area.  I will add that as well.  Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 16:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried to clear up the bit on leadership but couldn't get the text to read right (It is fragmented into two sentences at the moment) and you may want to take a look over it.  Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 16:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that helps. Everyone does seem to agree that Okello appeared almost from nowhere, so there obviously wasn't any particular attention paid to him before the revolution - reflected in the apparent lack of information. If the Brits were concentrating on possible communist subversion I suppose they wouldn't have been looking at him much anyway. EyeSerenetalk 12:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Interesting.  I have not seen that claim made by an RS before (discounting the official history).  I think that might be the result of some vandalism somewhere along the line.  An older version of the article says "Karume was not in Zanzibar on 12 January 1964".  I will hop over to the article and correct it (with a ref).  It is a shame that the supporting biography articles are in such poor states - Dumelow (talk) 17:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have tried to introduce this in the two places you mentioned (I used historians) and changed the bit about the merger to, hopefully, clarify the sources - Dumelow (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

text:  I can't recall reading about forced expulsions but it is a possibility.  Do you have any more information on this?  Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't - I can't remember where I read it, though it was probably in one of the other related articles. EyeSerenetalk 10:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the information - are you able to provide sources for this (ie books, reputable websites or newspapers)? Because Wikipedia can only report what others have already published, unfortunately we can't include any information that can't be verified by reference to what Wikipedia calls reliable sources (click on the link for more information). EyeSerenetalk 08:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit notes 

message: Targeting of Arabs for mass killings, isn't that genocide? --41.151.141.63 (talk) 23:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genocide 

message: Operation Parthenon——name change——>Operation Boris——name change——>Operation Finery——name change——>Operation Shed——name change——>Plan Giralda——>CANCELED
We don't need 5 large yet almost identical articles of operations that all failed to be implemented, do we? 77.165.250.227 (talk) 10:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seriously guys, is  this necessary... 

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message: The intro puts it at 20k, whereas the infobox at 2-4k.--Adûnâi (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The number of dead civilians