Talk:List of Armenians/Archive 1

message: Does anyone now if Agassi's last name was changed from Aghassian or Aghassarian, since the latter is a common Armenian last name, while I've never heard of anyone called Aghassian. --Aramgutang 04:47, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

message: I don't think we can call people born in the USA "Armenian". We certainly don't do this with the list of Scots, despite there being plenty of Scottish descended Americans. Most of the people on this list aren't quite Armenian in that sense, and perhaps many don't even speak the language.
: What do you suggest? We put (American-Armenian) or (Russian-Armenian) or (*-Armenian) for every person? Why don't the people read the articles and find out for themselves? Milou ge 23:32, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Armenian is a nationality and ethnicity, while being an American simply means holding a citizenship of USA - it is not a nationality, but citizenship. Unlike other nations (ethnic groups), such as the Scots, most of the Armenians were able to keep a clear national identity despite the fact that they were born and raised in another country. Go to the Armenian communities around the globe and ask them who they are and you will get one clear answer: I am an Armenian (by Vahé Heboyan).
The general reader wants to know ancestry, too.  The paragraph at the top makes that clear.  We can address anonymous's concern by noting the country by each person's name.  No hyphenation needed.  For instance, Charles Aznavour considered himself simply French for most of his career; only late in life did he become more interested in his Armenian ancestry.  Not being able to speak Armenian is regretable, but not a reason to deny someone Armenian identity. -- Korky Tashjian Day Korky Day 18:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian? 

message: Who added the Amazing Race participants? They're not very prominent, just participants in a reality program. Why not also add those numerous Armenians who have participated in other game shows like Family Feud and Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? There's also somebody expanding the peoples' positions (or what the people listed on this page are known for). If people are interested, they can click on their names and find out more. Don't put their biographies on here. 04:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions on how prominent and on how long a listing 

message: Would people mind if I delete the Americans listed here? There is now a List of Armenian-Americans (created by me) and it has all of them on there. We could link to it from this page. JackO'Lantern 19:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Armenian-Americans

message: He's not Armenian but a Turkish-Cypriot living in UK, his real name is Hüseyin Çağlayan.  His name needs to be deleted from this list. (Not all last names ending with an "-an" are actually Armenian, such as M. Night Shyamalan who is Indian)  --Gokhan 08:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hussein Chalayan

message: Miklos Horthy an armenian??? Who wrote that, that is pure nonsense.
Dear anonymous, I don't know who did, or whether it's true, but you can add "Veracity questioned" after it. Korky Tashjian Day Korky Day 00:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Horthy challenged

message: Vivien Leigh  www.hartleyfamily.org.uk/Fame1.html  says under Early Life: Vivien LEIGH was born Vivian Mary HARTLEY on the evening of Wednesday November 5th, 1913 in her parents home in Darjeeling, India. Her father, Ernest HARTLEY, was born in Yorkshire England in 1883, and had moved to India at the age of 22 in search of a career and adventure. He became involved with a brokerage firm, spent time racing horses, and acted in The Calcutta Dramatic Society. Vivien's mother, Gertrude YACKJEE, although from Irish descendants, was also born in Darjeeling India, in 1888. Friends of the Hartleys said that Gertrude, with her dark hair, blue eyes, and peach-like skin (traits Vivien would inherit), was very beautiful in her youth, more so than Vivien. The YACKJEE side of the family also had Armenian descendants which may have influenced Vivien's dark Eastern looks. Korky Day 09:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter if her mother had some Armenian great-grandparent or not (It might matter to her article, at best, but not here). If you can find a good source that calls Vivien Leigh herself "an Armenian", she can be on this list - otherwise, no. In fact, I am going to be sourcing this list in accordance with Wikipedia's Verifiability and No Original Research policies, and thus A. removing Armenian-Americans, who have their own list (and putting them there only if they have been described as "Armenian-Americans" or "Armenian" by a good source) and B. other people who were not actually Armenian (by nationality) and have never been described as "Armenian" by a reliable source. The only way to put all these silly arguments to rest is to stick very closely to what Reliable sources have said on the matter, and make these lists follow Wikipedia policy. Mad Jack O'Lantern 06:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vivien Leigh deleted but now I have a source 

message: While doing disambiguation work on the entry for Paul Ignatius, I found that he was listed as a former US deputy secretary of defense.  However, his wikipedia page, as well as other research, seem to indicate that he was the assistant secretary of defense.  While similar in name, these two are very different and should not be confused.  There is only one deputy secretary of defense, while there can be many assistant secretaries.  I have corrected the specific reference (since that was part of my disambiguation anyway), but I have reason to suspect that similar errors exist elsewhere in the list.  Someone with more in-depth knowledge of the subject matter should go through the list and verify it.  Also, adding direct links to the wikipedia page describing the specific job would be of more use to a person browsing the page. --Pekaje 21:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy of Military section 

message: Is casting agency link necessary? I remember seeing it on some other article. Vartanm 08:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, doesn't look necessary. - Fedayee 17:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castiing.am