Talk:Al-Ahbash/Archive 3

message: I hope an Admin will review your request and make some investigation to see if i'm the one you called "fatima " or Aisha ... 
This is your only way of running , first you say that i'm the webmasters of like 20 links i think or more 
Jibran1 answered you on this : " I would put up a warning on Muslim Sunni too, if your accusations towards him are true, however, I could not find his name listed as the webmaster at the Sunna.info website. Furthermore, Sunna.info seems to be an informative websites as I did find some interesting articles on it. Jibran1 " 
Then now you say i'm the same person using different nickname ... 
wake up and stop making accusation without proofs ... --Muslim sunni 21:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Admin are free to check ... 

message: Jibran1 was kind and humble enough to leave this message:
:::I sincerely apologise for the warning that I have given you. I was looking through the history of the article and had noticed that you had erased links from the 'External links' section, multiple times, after they had been put back. Upon further investigation of Wikipedia:Vandalism & Wikipedia:External_links#Links_to_normally_avoid and a readthrough of the dialogue between you and Art LaPella, I realised that I might have been a bit hasty in putting up the warning on your page. My mistake. At this point, I just want to add that I put that warning up on your page, in good faith and in the interest of the article. I am not taking sides, and I can assure you that there was no "nepotism" or "nationalism" going on. I would put up a warning on Muslim Sunni too, if your accusations towards him are true, however, I could not find his name listed as the webmaster at the Sunna.info website. Furthermore, Sunna.info seems to be an informative websites as I did find some interesting articles on it.
:::Please do continue to contribute to Wikipedia. I'm sure your inputs and efforts are appreciated. Once again, my sincere apologies to you. --Jibran1 23:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Jibran1|Jibran1]] was kind and humble enough to leave this message --> Vandalism (March 2006)  

message: Latest "editing" was done by  which is hosted in Pennsylvania, the headquarters of Al-Ahbash / Habashies.. Doesn't it tell something?
Once again, Jibran1 was kind and humble enough to leave this message:
:::I sincerely apologise for the warning that I have given you. I was looking through the history of the article and had noticed that you had erased links from the 'External links' section, multiple times, after they had been put back. Upon further investigation of Wikipedia:Vandalism & Wikipedia:External_links#Links_to_normally_avoid and a readthrough of the dialogue between you and Art LaPella, I realised that I might have been a bit hasty in putting up the warning on your page. My mistake. At this point, I just want to add that I put that warning up on your page, in good faith and in the interest of the article. I am not taking sides, and I can assure you that there was no "nepotism" or "nationalism" going on. I would put up a warning on Muslim Sunni too, if your accusations towards him are true, however, I could not find his name listed as the webmaster at the Sunna.info website. Furthermore, Sunna.info seems to be an informative websites as I did find some interesting articles on it.
:::Please do continue to contribute to Wikipedia. I'm sure your inputs and efforts are appreciated. Once again, my sincere apologies to you. --Jibran1 23:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{vandal|64.83.74.214}} is hosted in Pennsylvania, the headquarters of Al-Ahbash / Habashies.. Doesn't it tell something? 

message: I would like to take the liberty to recapitulate the core points of content of this page as per following:
Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP's Objections: "an interpretation of Islam combining elements of Sunni and Shi'a theology with Sufism" ? + "anti-Salafi, and with Sufi and other beliefs seen as heretical" ?
NPOV / Tearlach's Response: It was an attempt to summarise and merge the descriptions at the three cited sources: their own promotional website; a critical description; and what appears to be a fairly balanced and properly-sourced paper in an academic journal. It incorporated other academic sources such as Internet in a Sectarian Islamic Context. Tearlach 15:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[user:Tearlach|Tearlach]]'s version continue to be WikiPedia NPOV-Compliant... 

message: I am a mainstream Sunni and my family is Sunni even before your "Shaikh" was ever born. As I have reiterated before that I am NOT guilty of inserting / promoting HIDDEN links to WikiPedia AND other projects' Islam-related pages to seek legitimacy and recruitment for my group. It is the agents of Al-Ahbash / Habashies.
I know very well that the agents / sympathizers of Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP will continue: 
*to make attempts to Habashanize this page and other WikiPedia / similar projects' Islam-related pages by twisting WikiPedia and others' guidelines to the maximum extent and by incorporating hidden links to wage a blatant and hegemonic smear campaign using "Islamic" sounded web-sites
*to castigate / shun / discard / ignore / discredit / "refute" any criticism / evidence by any individual / web-site / organization / outlet - which exposes the Al-Ahbash / AICP / Habashies' agenda and beliefs - as either "Wahabi", "Kaafir", "non-Muslim", "Islamist" or part of a "smear / defemation compaign"
*to use "politically correct" language / jargon / ebonics / verbage / semantics to their benefit and pursue their agenda and beliefs against the other party
*to purse their "divide and conquer" strategy by trying to DIMINISH / LESSEN and ultimately REMOVE the FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE (S), demonstrated / presented / preached by themselves on this very page and by practicing their hedious, vicious, contemptuous and dangerous tactics elsewhere on the web and in their material and Musallahs, between mainstream Sunnis and Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP to seek legitimacy, recruitment and hegemonic superiority of their beliefs and agenda,
and
*to ignore / discredit all the INDEPENDENT, NEUTRAL and ACADEMIC sources and material which doesn't follow the tag-line of Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP.
I would like to take the liberty to recapitulate the core points of content of this page as per following:
Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP's Objections: "an interpretation of Islam combining elements of Sunni and Shi'a theology with Sufism" ? + "anti-Salafi, and with Sufi and other beliefs seen as heretical" ?
NPOV / Tearlach's Response: It was an attempt to summarise and merge the descriptions at the three cited sources: their own promotional website; a critical description; and what appears to be a fairly balanced and properly-sourced paper in an academic journal. It incorporated other academic sources such as Internet in a Sectarian Islamic Context. Tearlach 15:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[user:McKhan|McKhan]] is a mainstream Sunni, no matter whatever the Al-Ahbash / Habashies' agenst claim... [[user:Tearlach|Tearlach]]'s version continue to be WikiPedia NPOV-Compliant...  

message: I am a mainstream Sunni and my family is Sunni even before your "Shaikh" was ever born. As I have reiterated before that I am NOT guilty of inserting / promoting HIDDEN links to WikiPedia AND other projects' Islam-related pages to seek legitimacy and recruitment for my group. It is the agents of Al-Ahbash / Habashies.
I know very well that the agents / sympathizers of Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP will continue: 
*to make attempts to Habashanize this page and other WikiPedia / similar projects' Islam-related pages by twisting WikiPedia and others' guidelines to the maximum extent and by incorporating hidden links to wage a blatant and hegemonic smear campaign using "Islamic" sounded web-sites
*to castigate / shun / discard / ignore / discredit / "refute" any criticism / evidence by any individual / web-site / organization / outlet - which exposes the Al-Ahbash / AICP / Habashies' agenda and beliefs - as either "Wahabi", "Kaafir", "non-Muslim", "Islamist" or part of a "smear / defemation compaign"
*to use "politically correct" language / jargon / ebonics / verbage / semantics to their benefit and pursue their agenda and beliefs against the other party
*to purse their "divide and conquer" strategy by trying to DIMINISH / LESSEN and ultimately REMOVE the FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE (S), demonstrated / presented / preached by themselves on this very page and by practicing their hedious, vicious, contemptuous and dangerous tactics elsewhere on the web and in their material and Musallahs, between mainstream Sunnis and Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP to seek legitimacy, recruitment and hegemonic superiority of their beliefs and agenda,
and
*to ignore / discredit all the INDEPENDENT, NEUTRAL and ACADEMIC sources and material which doesn't follow the tag-line of Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP.
It is sad but true that WikiPedia and other projects' Islam-related pages have become an easy target / "battle-field" for these people as most of the contributors and editors of these projects don't know the FUNDAMENTAL and SUBSTANTIAL difference (s) between these groups and mainstream Sunni Muslims.
I would like to take the liberty to recapitulate the core points of content of this page as per following:
Al-Ahbash / Habashies / AICP's Objections: "an interpretation of Islam combining elements of Sunni and Shi'a theology with Sufism" ? + "anti-Salafi, and with Sufi and other beliefs seen as heretical" ?
NPOV / Tearlach's Response: It was an attempt to summarise and merge the descriptions at the three cited sources: their own promotional website; a critical description; and what appears to be a fairly balanced and properly-sourced paper in an academic journal. It incorporated other academic sources such as Internet in a Sectarian Islamic Context. Tearlach 15:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[user:Tearlach|Tearlach]]'s version continue to be WikiPedia NPOV-compliant as Al-Ahbash / Habashies' agents are back.. = [[user:McKhan|McKhan]] is a mainstream Sunni whose family is Sunni for ages..