Talk:Alternative names for Northern Ireland

message: I noticed the sentence:
"term is disliked by some nationalists because the whole of the Province of Ulster consists of nine counties"
Instead, should it read "Historical Kingdom of Ulster"?  The maps here and wiki article Kingdoms of ancient Ireland appears to back that up.  Reading it just didnt seem to make sense- the only time i've heard the phrase 'province' used is by Unionists or in pro-union media to describe NI as a province of/within the UK structure, not as a territorial province called Ulster.  Unionists do use the term 'Ulster' to mean NI but I have frequently heard the argument in nationalist circles that- "Ulster is 9 counties not 6".
There was one other thing- there doesnt appear to be any explanation or link to the explanation of this in introductory paragraph:
"the region, known officially as Northern Ireland was made up of six counties, four of which were [at the time] largely Protestant and unionist."
Is it possible to link to Boundary Commission (Ireland) to give explanation of what lead to the formation of majorities described?  I don't know the details of it, but theres a popular view im aware of that the boundary commission 'rigged' the border so nationalist population in the now RoI border counties were deliberately excluded from NI just so unionist voting majorities could be created in NI.  Is that just a myth? Fluffy999 00:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boundry Commission & Kingdom of Ulster

message: "In the Republic of Ireland, people typically refer to Northern Ireland simply as "the North". They do not usually mean the term in a political sense, however, but are merely stating a geographic reality in respect of the island of Ireland as a whole." How exactly could "The North" be interpreted in a political sense? DJ Clayworth 21:43, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The North

message: This article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. For details, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Ireland naming dispute. -- BD2412 talk 04:53, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfD results 

message: How about mentioning the Irish Gaelic and Ulster Scots names? - FrancisTyers 21:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add them in! Talrias (t | e | c) 06:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Names in other local languages

message: i question whether this topic should exist.  it suggests a much more serious and active problem than seems to actually exist.  "dispute" suggests on ongoing fight between two or more major parties.  when it is only a few extremists trying to create a dispute out of nothing, as seems to be the case here, the very existence of an article about a "dispute" is POV.
a similar example might be if someone created a "west bank/judea and samaria naming dispute" article.  in this case, the extreme right wing in israel insists on the term "judea and samaria", and it is used by some english-language journalists who take this position (e.g. william safire).  but there is no serious mainstream dispute.
Benwing 04:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What name do you suggest? Dictionaries define "dispute" as a controversy, a discussion. Dispute seems like an appropriate word but if you have a better one please suggest it. I don't think the existence of this article is POV. What POV is it trying to push? Talrias (t | e | c) 10:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  a questionable topic 

message: For an informal merger discussion see Wikipedia_talk:Irish_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Names_of_Ireland.
Djegan 20:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Names of Ireland

message: I have amended the phrase:
the Government of Northern Ireland once tried to change the official name of the country to Ulster, but this was vetoed by the UK Government.
to
the Government of Northern Ireland once considered changing the official name of the country to Ulster.
because as far as I understood the rejection came from the then NI Prime Minister on the grounds that he didn't want to cede the use of 'Ireland' to the Republic. I have left the citation tag in because I can't remember where I read this. beano 21:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming Northern Ireland 

message: The term "Norn Iron" is not meant to be a new name for Northern Ireland, instead it is merely the way that "Northern Ireland" is pronounced in some Northern Irish accents.  This should not be considered a new, different, or alternative name for the country.  Furthermore, there are no citations to support this in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.121.10 (talk) 23:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll plump for Norn Ir'n instead. Norn Iron may not be cited in polite literature, but it is what you'll hear on the Ulster Street.86.46.206.117 (talk) 15:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Norn Iron" 

message: Cyberbot II has detected that page contains external links that have either been globally or locally blacklisted.
Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed, or are highly innappropriate for Wikipedia.
This, however, doesn't necessarily mean it's spam, or not a good link.
If the link is a good link, you may wish to request whitelisting by going to the request page for whitelisting.
If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the blacklist request page.
If the link is blacklisted globally and you feel the above applies you may request to whitelist it using the before mentioned request page, or request it's removal, or alteration, at the request page on meta.
When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags.
The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true.
Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
*http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Call-it-Ulster/#detai
*:Triggered by \bpetition(?:online|s)?\b on the local blacklist
*http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ulster/
*:Triggered by \bpetition(?:online|s)?\b on the local blacklist
If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot II NotifyOnline 17:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on the Main Page