Talk:Lucas Industries

message: This section needs expanding and correcting. My father worked for Rotax in Maxwell Road, Beaconsfield, from the late 40s till the factory closed and work moved to Lucas in Hemel Hempstead in the late 50s/early 60s (my father chose not to move and got another job elsewhere). So the statement that the final move of Rotax was to Willesden in 1913 is clearly wrong. A web search for Rotax and Beaconsfield shows several film studio history sites saying that Rotax moved to the site of Beaconsfield Studios in 1939 to manufacture aircraft magnetos for the war effort.  This seems odd as the present site of the Beaconsfield Film Studios is halfway between the Old and New Town, not in Maxwell Road. There was also a parliamentary question thrown up by a web search from 1959 by the MP for Beaconsfield about giving Rotax more defence work.
: This is taken from the indicated source, which may not be reliable. I took it to mean 'final' in the sense of 'finally' becoming 'Rotax', rather than implying there were no other factories elsewhere later - you might like to reword it. Pterre (talk) 07:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know there were only two companies called Rotax, this one and this one. Pterre (talk) 07:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a FYI, Lucas worked on the design and manufacture of the combustion chambers for almost every British gas turbine engine through the 1940s to the 1960s and their extensive knowledge of combustion and combustion chamber design is one of the reasons that production British jet engines of the period didn't produce massive amounts of black smoke from the exhaust, unlike many others of the time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.57.101 (talk) 14:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotax 

message: No matter what any particular experts may say about Lucas electrical systems, Wikipedia's basic rules are clear. There is no way comments fighting to restore Lucas' reputation are acceptable. That's something for history to judge. Arguing that they should have done this or that with their wiring, had bad suppliers, or whatever, is beside the point as far as Wikipedia is concerned. That should go on old car discussion sites, not here. "Harumph" and "I was there" at us all you like, but that's how this place works. I have similar experience on other subjects, but that's irrelevant. It needs to be edited.Andacar 14:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: user:BilCat Below are reliable sources for Lucas industries reputation for poor quality and the origin of the Lucas jokes.  Would these be useable for the article?  The first link is behind a paywall, but I am a member and can provide my login information if need be.  Also, just a quick anecdote.  I was a drag racer back in the 1980's and raced primarily at US-30 dragstrip in Indiana.  At that time, ALL AHRA dragstrips had a strict prohibition on Lucas Electrical products due to their inherent safety and quality issues.  If you breeched this rule, you could be banned  - for LIFE - from all AHRA events.  That's how serious the problem was.  In any event, please check out the links below...
https://www.autonews.com/article/19941010/ANA/410100719/lucas-chief-campaigns-to-shed-new-light-on-dark-reputation
https://www.hagerty.com/media/maintenance-and-tech/lucas-electricals-as-bad-as-everyone-says/
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2019/02/08/know-ye-fear-lucas-once-tried-to-build-an-entire-car
https://jalopnik.com/lucas-once-built-an-entire-car-so-get-your-jokes-ready-1833755033
Also, the general consensus in the 1970s and 1980s was that Lucas engineers were deliberately sabotaging designs such as to make them unsafe in operation.  This was related to The Troubles.  Again, this is something that is rather difficult to source as it was more of a rumor you would hear in garages at the time.  If we cant include the rumors I mentioned, we should be able to include the reliably sourced info above.  I eagerly wait input from other contributors. 2600:1700:1250:6D80:A53E:C445:DB6F:9C33 (talk) 21:19, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  If no one objects I would like to add a section regarding Lucas' reputation for poor quality as sourced by the links above.  In Lucas's defense, I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never had any trou....  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:1250:6D80:A53E:C445:DB6F:9C33 (talk) 21:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for Lucas' reputation for poor quality/jokes 

message: To be fair to Lucas you have to understand that all their components were assembled in the dark.  Reminds me of a Triumph I had back in the 1970s.  The vehicle had three toggle switches in a row, but none of them were labeled.  I asked the dealer "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" The dealer replied to me: "The switches were made by the English.  It doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!" 2600:1700:1250:6D80:E85C:2479:124D:FFBD (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assembly of Lucas Components