Talk:Cornwall/Archive 3

message: The introduction is far from succinct with loads of details that, while perfectly valid, should be in the body of the text. Needs to be edited down & moved into the article leaving two paragraphs at most. MRSC 22:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I ask that you do that? The introduction is now heavily disputed, and anything I or others write will simply be deleted (along with any other edits). A third party is needed here. Doire 22:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've edited this. Please note that I have reused all the text removed from the introduction in the body of the article so please edit the article as a whole rather than expand the introduction again. It should be a succict summary. MRSC 09:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: . David | Talk 21:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the Commonwealth Games Federation chief mentioned anything about Wikipedia or encyclopedia writers in his advice, so I don't see how you could "echo" it. Further, in the context of Wikipedia, anyone is an encyclopedia writer, and that includes "those nationalists" you seem to so abhor. (Though you don't seem to abhor English nationalists.) Doire 22:18, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He didn't mention encyclopedia writers. Having trouble with basic sentence construction and comprehension? He could sue you for libel for implying that he endorsed your view of yourself as a doughty "encyclopedia writer" (although if writing Wikipedia is all you do you should probably classify yourself as unemployed or underemployed). Doire 22:30, 2 January 2006.
No Wikipedia:Legal threats as it creates such an unpleasant atmosphere that users who engage in such activities are often blocked from participating at all. Please don't repeat, SqueakBox 01:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

text: The same goes for stalking other editors and their edits. That also creates an unpleasant atmosphere. I would appreciate it if you and Steinsky ceased stalking me and deleting my contributions. As far as I know neither of you are acquainted with the Cornish language or tides at Perranporth and therefore you have no reason to delete my additions which relate to such facts. Wikipedia does not tolerate internal vendettas. Thanks. Doire 14:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ahem 

message: I have found the royal charter which created the Duchy of Cornwall. It is under the foreshore case. Only read the first charter (of 3) so far but it makes for interesting reading. Cornwall is refered to as the "county of Cornwall". It also states "and hereditarily to succeed as Dukes of the said place, in the kingdom of England" (twice). This appears to state that Cornwall was, a will continue to be, a county of England. josh (talk) 02:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Royal Charter 

message: I think Doire is trolling. His insulting comments and legal threats are proof of it. Is there any point in engaging with him? How does it serve the encyclopedia to engage with someone who won't keep to basic standards of etiquette and seems only interested in insulting people, winding them up to get a reaction, etc, SqueakBox 15:40, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be an odd "troll" that had to look up what "troll" meant on Wikipedia,m wouldn't it? Nevertheless, I found a revealing snippet in the article on trolling, which sums up how I think this talk has degenerated (and which follows as an appendix*) - it's become a personal argument involving three or four people (myself, SqueakBox, Steinsky and josh), for I have long since stopped engaging in edit wars on the article with any of you. As no one is forcing me to carry any of this on, I will demonstrate good faith and "etiquette" and leave you to your edits and opinions.*"Many (perhaps most) people, labelled "trolls", are simply being called thus by someone else in the course of a religious, political or other ordinary type of dispute; in other words, they are labelled as one for acting as a dissident or heretic [...] Many debates, between those with and without administrative or legal powers, seem simply to resemble a heated, personal, argument. On the Internet in particular, the holding of technological powers (such as the power to ban users or block IP addresses) is not necessarily a sign of any superior political or moral judgement. Similarly, one may be labeled a troll for simply disagreeing with someone(often the topic starter)." Doire 15:55, 3 January 2006. (UTC) Mer ras ha nos da.
No, I said troll because of your insults and legal threats, nothing to do with your opinions. It is possible to argue any opinion on wikipedia without engaging in attacks on other editors or making legal threats. All I am saying is please do so, SqueakBox 16:06, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Troll