Talk:Fascist Manifesto

message: When was the Manifesto written and by whom? mythrandir 17:52. 23 Dec 2003. (EST)
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I am a new user and in my new user talk it said a good definition was needed. Well I added my own, I hope it appears neutral and insigtful; however, I do not know where to go after my definition... this article needs a better transition. Dorfeb 01:32, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)
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Here's a first crack at a translation of the Manifesto itself.  (I don't really read Italian; I'm fudging from knowledge of French and Babelfish...)
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Italians!  Here is the program of a genuinely Italian movement, revolutionary
because it is antidogmatic, (strongly and unprejudicially innovative?).
For the political problem, we want:
a) Universal suffrage according to regional lists, with proportional representation; the vote and [electoral?] elegibility for women.
b) The minimum age for voters lowered to 18 years; that for representatives to 25 years.
c) The abolition of the Senate.
d) The convocation of a National Assembly for the duration of three years, the first task of which is the formation of a constitution for the State.
e) The formation of National Technical Councils for labor, for industry, for transport, for public health, for communications, etc., elected by the whole of the profession or trade, with legislative power, and (directed?) to elect a Commissioner General with ministerial authority.
For the social problem, we want:
a) The prompt promulgation of a law which sanctions for all workers the eight hour legal working day.
b) A minimum wage.
c) The participation of labor representatives in the technical operation of industry.
d) The confidence of these same proletarian organizations (which are morally and technically worthy [?]) in the management of industry and public services.
e) The rapid and complete systemization (?) of the railways and of all transport industries.
f) A necessary modification of the bill on disability and old-age insurance, lowering the age limit, presently proposed at 65 years, to 55 years.
For the military problem, we want:
a) The institution of a national militia with a brief training period and a completely defensive mission.
b) The nationalization of all arms and munitions factories.
c) A national foreign policy recognizing the value in the world, amidst the peaceful competition of civilization, of the Italian Nation.
For the financial problem, we want:
a) A strong extroardinary tax on capital, having a progressive character, which has the nature of a true partial expropriation of all wealth.
b) The siezure of all the property of religious orders and the abolition of all episcopal privelege, which constitutes an enormous drain on the nation and a privelege of the few.
c) The revision of all war contracts and the siezure of 85% of war profits.
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Can someone who really knows Italian take a look at this?  I'd like to have an Italian-speaker correct my translation before I put it up on the real page.
Tkinias 04:39, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

message: I think this page should be moved to either The Manifesto of the Fascist Struggle (the work's proper title) or Fascist Manifesto (with manifesto capitalized, since it is a shortened version of the title). I'm not sure if it's even known as "The Fascist Manifesto", so I think it should be moved to "The Manifesto of the Fascist Struggle". Any objections? Ecto (talk) 16:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: This sentence that follows a summary of the main tenants and goals of the Fascist Manifesto should be deleted for intentionally misdirecting the topic with an unrelated and generalized counterfactual meant to paint the topic at hand in a negative light. The sentence is this:
"However in Practice a Fascist State is often a reflection of the leaders values and opinions, as seen in Nazi Germany and their policies towards the Jewish Population."
The declaration that "sure this is what fascism tried to do but actually bad actors ruin it with their personal prejudices" is a massive generalization and is unfitly situated in this article. It is an opinionated misdirection to colour the content of this page in a bad light by comparing it to something very different, that being the Holocaust no less. This "However" does not even refer to Italy, it refers to Germany, and the nature of national socialism, NOT (Italian) Fascism, which this article, and ESPECIALLY this Manifesto, is about.  
This sentence has no place in a Wikipedia page that is trying to be objective let alone COHERENT. CarterIsBad (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence should be removed