Talk:Hunting Act 2004

message: Is the full text of the Act strictly necessary? To me, it seems like article-padding, and the full text of the act is already on the hmso.gov.uk website, which is linked to at the bottom of the article. --RDevz 22:12, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal entirety?

message: I'm confused about the status of fox hunting in Scotland.  The intro paragraph seems to unambiguously state that it is illegal.  But then later on, we have this line:
Traditionally, in some upland areas, foxes were flushed by packs of dogs to be shot. This activity is still permitted in Scotland under the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act 2002.
So you can hunt foxes in Scotland?  We need clarification. 68.40.65.164 05:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have tried to amend article to answer this. MikeHobday 07:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status in Scotland 

message: Glad to see the removal of the "Convictions list". However, I'm starting to feel that this has simply been transferred to the External Links section.
Possibly too many case judgements I think! Could the people responsible for adding please familiarise themselves with the Wikipedia:External links page - in particular:
Important points to remember
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3.Try to avoid linking to multiple pages from the same website; instead, try to find an appropriate linking page within the site.
Avoid undue weight on particular points of view
On articles with multiple points of view, the number of links dedicated to one point of view should not overwhelm the number dedicated to other equal points of view, nor give undue weight to minority views. Add comments to these links informing the reader of their point of view. If one point of view dominates informed opinion, that should be represented first. For more information, see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view - in particular, Wikipedia's guidelines on undue weight.
With this subject, informed opinion is divided, therefore using this section to make or emphasise a point of view is not acceptable in Wikipedia. Links here should only relate directly to the Act itself. Other more controversial issues should be saved for the Fox Hunting article.
Thoughts...
--TFoxton 20:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point, feel free to delete some. MikeHobday 20:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Had a go. Feel free to reinstate news articles I removed anyone, but these need to be placed into the article itself, they not suitable for the External Links section. --TFoxton 22:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Tim Bonner (talk) 14:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I welcome you editting the article, and I'm sure that collaboration could lead to a better one. I've amended your of your changes as I think it's misleading to refer to "all" two cases being dropped when CPS cases for fox hunting and hare coursing and two private cases are continuing. MikeHobday (talk) 18:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those were the only two CPS prosecutions of hunts adjourned for the Wright appeal and both have been dropped. Your addition is incorrect as it stands because no prosecutions against hunts that were adjourned for the appeal are continuing. See my amend.Tim Bonner (talk) 23:58, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that's not true, and I've added in an adjourned case against a hunt that was adjourned but hasn't been dropped. MikeHobday (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enforcement and Flushing 

message: I have done a reasonably thorough rework of the article to present it in a clearer way with some adjustments to the order and section headings. I have tried not to diverge from the main content of the article, but have toned down some statements where I felt they were straying in the POV territory. PeterEastern (talk) 21:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review and rework 

message: Section 16 of the Act specifies the short title to be the Hunting Act 2014, not The Hunting Act 2004. The introduction to this article therefore incorrectly emboldens the definite article The. In addition, the -->short-title of The Hunting Act 2004 is similarly incorrect and should be Hunting Act 2004.
--Senra (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definite article in short title 

message: Wikipedia article currently states about the 2004 ban that "Simultaneously, a demonstration of 400,000 people from the Countryside Alliance filled Parliament Square outside." The source listed is vague and says "Some 400,000 people marched against the ban" but is not news coverage of the event and doesn't specify which march. Also, logistically, 400,000 would not fit in Parliament Square. 
That 400,000 figure seems to have come from a different 2002 march, and was contested as an exaggeration at the time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2274129.stm
For the 2004 march, a more realistic number is between 8,000 and 10,000: "Outside Parliament, police estimate there were between 8,000 and 10,000 protesters but the organisers put it at 20,000." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3656524.stm
I am new to Wikipedia. Could someone else confirm that this number should change before making the edit? Thanks! --DanPublicPolicy 12:09, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of people marching

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message: User:Dynamite16 has twice reverted my addition of Anne Widdecombe to the list of Conservative MPs who supported the bill, on the grounds that she is no longer a Conservative MP (which is true – she retired in 2010, though she stood unsuccesfully as a candidate for the Brexit Party in 2019). Aside from the fact that they carelessly removed a valid reference along with their edit, I find the logic that she should be listed separately unconvincing: the point is surely that she was a Conservative MP at the time, and I suggest that this is implied. If only sitting MPs are to be listed, then someone is going to have to curate the list and remove names as the MPs lose their seats and retire, which I suggest isn't going to happen, and is unnecessary anyway. Comments welcome. Dave.Dunford (talk) 14:20, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Cases in point: Mike Weatherley, Simon Kirby and Lee Scott (also listed) are no longer Conservative MPs. Why treat Widdecombe differently? Dave.Dunford (talk) 14:25, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former Conservative MPs (e.g. Anne Widdecombe)