Talk:Main Page/Archive 75

message: The article China proper says that this term is controversial or even offensive to many Chinese. I suggest that the wording in ITN be changed to "eastern China" or something like that. --Cam 01:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. --64.229.222.204 10:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: China proper (Qingzang railway item in ITN)

message: to something of the "Hezbollah attacks Israel, Israel strikes back" sort?? This seems to be more accurate - the current writing seems to indicate that Israel is the propogator of the attacks....
*It is HEzbollah.  Reuters is making a mistake.  The second letter is e.  You can ask any Arabic speaker.--Patchouli 08:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a headline and as such can't include everything - that's what the article is for. BTW, it would look strange if it said that  Israel entered Lebanon for something because of something that happened 4 or 5 days later. Zocky | picture popups 13:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Main Page still reflects only what happened 4 or 5 days ago, in a way that suggests this is a one-sided assault. That's not making it short, that's making it factually inaccurate. I suggest something like "The Israeli army continues its offensive in Lebanon, while Hezbollah fires katyusha rockets against northern Israeli cities." --80.230.85.180 15:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't update it every five minutes. This is, again, a misunderstanding of what the In the news section is for. Please try to confine your passions to editing the article so that it includes as much encyclopedic information as possible. --Dhartung | Talk 19:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about changing the "Israel-Lebanon"... 

message: It's kind of strange that G8 summit is not listed in the current events and is not mentioned on the main page, and 32nd G8 summit page still has "Future events" template on top of it.
:—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.197.129.54 (talk • contribs) 10:36, July 16, 2006 (UTC).
:So fix it. :)  Welcome - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. There's no one person responsible for general content. So if the editors who originted that article lost interest or are busy then it gets left to someone else to take it up and suggest things for the Current events. --Monotonehell 12:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  G8 summit 

message: Is it really necessary to inflict that horrible smug grin on us? How about replacing the latest Prime Minister with the first Prime Minister, ie Robert Walpole. Walpole is no longer controversial and in the picture in his article he looks statesmanlike. Olborne 18:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the best picture, and the article is (as I pointed out in Talk) too focused on history, but I think Blair is the right person to use. --Dhartung | Talk 19:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Image:BlairL.jpg might make a better picture. --Descendall 21:52, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

text:  has recently been changed to a non-free license due to its prohibition on derivative images. See Template talk:CrownCopyright. All images tagged with the license (including :Image:BlairL.jpg) are in the process of getting fair use rationales. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 22:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disturbing image on main page

message: It says here that the two main G8 issues are "energy security" and education... should it be energy, security, and education, as in the summit's article? Or should the other be changed? ROY YOЯ 19:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  G8 issues 

message: Is there a Latin-language wikipedia? and if not, why hasn't it been created? wasn't the first encyclopedia written in latin? isn't this an insult to history?  I would create it myself, but I can't because the only latin word I know is "vagina" (and I know it well....)Antimatter 22:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But can you decline it?-gadfium 06:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll find that very few men can decline vagina. --Sam Blanning(talk) 15:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And those men are almost all priests.That is, those who can use both senses of decline-gadfium 23:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

text: http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_prima Raul654 22:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Of course Wikipedia has an article on that (fake) Latin phrase as well...see Illegitimi non carborundum. :o) EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 07:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's time... 

message: Have a look at this edit. A basic and easily checkable fact in the Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom article (the salary) was not updated. This is the sort of thing that justifiably gives Wikipedia a bad reputation. What is the point of saying that our articles can be more up-to-date than others, when no-one checks to see if they are up-to-date? Can processes be put in place to stop this happening again? Carcharoth 23:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check. --Dhartung | Talk 00:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Carcharoth 00:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact checking for featured articles 

message: Should the relegation of Italian soccer teams really be listed above the Israel-Lebanon conflict? 206.223.242.88 03:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Who gets to decide "what is most significant"?  —David Levy 20:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news ordering issue 

message: Please change the Constitution Day link on the front to Constitution Day (South Korea). Thanks. Mithridates 07:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thank you. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 07:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: As Marine day is not on a fixed date. The "2006" refers to it falling on the 17th in 2006. In other years the date will be different. Jmount 09:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any admins out there? 

message: CNN is reporting @ ~ 6:37am(GMT -4) that a earthquake spawned Tsunami has hit the Western Shore of the Asian island of Java, in Indonesia.  According to that country's President (as quoted by Rueters and AP wires at this point.) At 6:37am they're reporting 6.8 under sea, meanwhile at 6:54  their "eyewitness" Kathy Quiano: is reporting a "7.2 magnatude quake which read 7.1" on the richter scale.
Related Tsunami news:
--The North American Tsunami warning system on Tuesday moved a step forward with an agreement signed to place a Tsunami warning systems in parts of the Caribbean region.
Seismic warning station for Barbados
CaribDigita 11:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's grand, but there're two problems. First, you haven't given an updated article. Second, suggestions for the ITN section are made over on Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates, not here. Feel free to update that section once a new or updated article has been found :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 12:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CNN: 7.2 Earthquake has triggered Tsunami 

message: This is LARGELY more important than the Space Shuttle and deserves first mention on the news section. --Revolución hablar ver 04:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was fixed the very next minute. Thanks, though! --Dhartung | Talk 19:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: earthquake/tsunami

message: More than 30 years ago I got this info : Danny Cedrone passed away on July 17, 1954
What do you think of it?  Stephan KŒNIG 10:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the date can be confirmed (please add references to Danny Cedrone's page), his death can be listed on July 17#Deaths. But, what does this have to do with MainPage ? -- PFHLai 13:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the pass away of Danny Cedrone... 

message: "that Pachirisu is a fictitious Electric Squirrel Pokémon that can shock opponents?"
...as opposed to a *real* electric squirrel pokemon? Or what? I think "fictitious" is understood here. 207.59.86.5 14:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not fair to assume that everyone reading the encyclopedia knows what a Pokémon is. Dark Shikari 15:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Indeed. It is a near-policy convention to always indicate that something is fictitious in order to prevent confusion that people unfamiliar with the subject may otherwise have. (For example, Star Wars-related articles often start with "In the fictional Star Wars Universe" even though there is no such thing as a real Star Wars Universe.) —Cuiviénen 02:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokemon 

message: I love how the imagery in the front page, as of this edit, shows the space shuttle right next to a note about an escalating Israeli/Lebanese conflict.  Let's all escape! MrZaiustalk 21:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: hahaha. Someone should probably change that. dposse 23:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Front page images need to be free, so our only option would probably be something like the Lebanese flag or a free map. --Dhartung | Talk 06:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah i always notice images beside the top story that look out of position, but this one actully looks right in the proper position. lets evacuate Earth before World War 3  11:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only ones calling it WWIII is the people at Fox News. dposse 16:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And CNN and Comedy Central!  Colbert Report MrZaiustalk 18:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Space Shuttle and Israel/Lebanon

message: Can we please get that image removed? It looks horrible. See  for details. --Liface 02:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replaced the image in question with the better version cited on that page.  —David Levy 03:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: David Barkley

message: Why are links underlined (as of today?) in the English version of Wikipedia? Camptown 11:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: After spending a little over a year here in Wikipedia, I am willing to make the call: there is a bias, but towards nerds (of which I am a mere Class 2 Nerd).  From Final Fantasy X to Starcraft to Perfect Dark to Red vs Blue, Wikipedia has become a veritable nerdgasm to nerdologists and connoisseurs of general nerdology worldwide.  Huzzah! (or should I say "Ni"?) --Bobak 14:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles that make the main page do so because they're well-writted, well-sourced, and have good information.  Since a preponderance of so-called "nerds" edit Wikipedia, more "nerd-related" articles are likely to be well-written, well-sourced, and have good information.  Thus, more "nerd-related" articles will be featured.  It has nothing to do with a bias in terms of which topics are picked for the main page: its a bias of what topics are covered well enough in Wikipedia to be picked for the main page. Dark Shikari 15:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh...Duh. ;-) --Bobak 16:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I think it is sad that we are so provincial that we can't even look for an article out of our solar system. I hereby declare a CRUSADE against SYSTEMIC SOLAR SYSTEM STIGMATISM/BIAS on Wikipedia! Forward the Great Attractor and Great Wall! --maru   (talk)  contribs 05:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So should we form Wikipedians Advocating Solar System Understatement Program?  We can call ourselves WASSUP!  The greetings would be awesome: "WASSUP?" "Hell yeah, Γ Quadrant for life, son!" ...of course, this would fall right into the nerd-bias above, but what do you expect from people who think contributing to a free online encyclopedia is a cool way to spend time ;-) (guilty!) --Bobak 20:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another topic on Main Page Bias 

message: Today, George W. Bush made his first veto against a stem cell research bill. This is his first veto in his 6 years of being President. Is this Main Page worthy?--Chili14 18:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there an updated article? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean? On Wikipedia, or from an external news service, like CNN?--Chili14 20:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Stories that feature "in the news" need an updated wikipedia article to link to.  violet/riga (t) 20:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Portal:Current events has already been updated, with a link to stem cell controversy, which is updated. But Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates has not been updated. Make suggestions there. --Dhartung | Talk 20:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Bush's first veto 

message: I think it will be nice, if the InterWiki link to Englisc/Anglosaxon Wikipeda is added. I think it made ang.wiki more popular, and - maybe - encourage people to learn the history of their/foreign language. Michał P. 19:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interwiki links are added to the bottom of the Main Page once the Wikipedia has 1,000 articles or more. Is this true for the Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 20:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's at 715. For an obsolete language, that's pretty good. --Dhartung | Talk 20:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still has a ways to go to catch up with the Latin Wikipedia's 5,400 though :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 23:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yabbut compare the Manx Wikipedia, which just passed 100 articles, and that's a language with living speakers. (And don't bite the newbie wikis...) --Dhartung | Talk 04:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Englisc Wikipedia 

message: DYK looked better without the bullets a few months ago. Why use them along with an ellipsis starting each line ? Ugly and superfluous. -- 64.229.179.114 06:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia talk:Did you know would be the best place to suggest layout changes to the DYK box. --Sam Blanning(talk) 08:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. (and I thought the arguing is bad on this talk page...) Will copy and post over there. -- 64.229.231.181 18:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DYK bullets suck 

message: Minor point, but it seems a bit over the top to have two space exploration items right next to each other. How about replacing the 1976 one with:
*1982 - The Provisional IRA detonates two bombs in Hyde Park and Regents Park in central London, killing eight soldiers and wounding forty-seven people
Cheers — SteveRwanda 11:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first manned lunar landing and the Viking probe are both hugely significant, certainly more so than one-of-many bombings in London. No, thanks. — ceejayoz talk 11:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  (Comment text removed by Dhartung | Talk. Jimmmmmmmmm, please observe WP:CIVIL, in particular no personal attacks and no legal threats.) Jimmmmmmmmm 11:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By that logic, every time someone dies in Iraq, it should go In The News? Unless bombings have a greater significance than simply to those affected, if they mean more than just a continuation of a conflict, (i.e. pretty much if they have their own article), they are not notable enough for the main page.  Cigarette 14:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on, saying "one-of-many bombings in London" is disgracful. I'm not saying that that event should take place but we should have to space events. Jimmmmmmmmm 15:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My point is, there have been many bombings in London, probably enough to have one in On This Day for half of the entire year.  Unless one is particularly notable - the subway bombings, for example - it certainly doesn't measure up in historical significance to humankind's first landing on the moon and one of the first Mars probes. 67.50.35.181 02:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: OTD is not too short, but DYK is too long, making OTD look short. And please keep the 1976 event. It's the 30th anniversary today. --64.229.231.181 18:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You do have a point hehehe. --Howard the Duck 03:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: As I keep saying, OTD should not be held to strict rules, definitely not about hurting people's feelings (because it's not a memorial). The OTD choices should be mixed up differently every year, otherwise the lesser-known events will never, ever get chosen. Maybe what we really need is a script that will randomly generate the entries, so we can stop having these "you forgot Poland" debates. --Dhartung | Talk 21:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On this day : July 20

message: I'm here to tell you that the Norman Wikipedia reached 1000! HOW RAD!
cool! [wossi] 21:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps some general talk page should be as accessible from the main page as the discussion of the main page itself; it's very tempting to post anything unrelated to the main page here. Anyway congratulations! ;) --Cloviz 22:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm no vandal! 

message: I would prefer it very much if, on arriving on the Wiki site, the cursor is already in the search field. That way, I could start typing immediately, without first cliking into it with my mouse. I know it is just a small thing, but it is been bugging me for quite some time now... :-) If possible, I would even like to have something like this implemented on all pages. Let me know what you think.
:Wikipedia:Main Page FAQ#Why doesn't the cursor appear in the search box, like with Google?
Thanks for that link. I think it is a non-argument though: most people (read: all that I know of) use the scroll-wheel on their mouse, rather than the arrows on the keyboard...
::My laptop does not have a mouse or a scroll wheel. Breaking standard methods of page navigation is, in general, a bad idea in web design. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion: cursor present in "search" field

message: "1954 - First Indochina War: The 17th parallel was established at the Geneva Conference, partitioning Vietnam into North Vietnam led by Ho Chi Minh and South Vietnam under Emperor Bảo Đại."
Hadn't the 17th parallel existed for a long time before this? — CJewell (talk to me) 11:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thank you for pointing this out. -- PFHLai 16:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  17th parallel sentence in <strike>"In The News"</strike> "On this day" is unclear... 

message: Great. A featured picture of the day without the actual picture.
Yes, you can click on it to see it. But why can't it be on the actual page? We've had panoramas there before. Daniel Case 14:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're the second person to report this issue (which I'm not experiencing).  Please try bypassing your cache.  —David Levy 14:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't working. Daniel Case 01:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

text: This image is being ad blocked because it is cached as "upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ad/Dinner_plain_summer_pano02.jpg/450px-Dinner_plain_summer_pano02.jpg".  To see it, people should either disable their ad blocking software, or we should move the image to a new name (caching paths are determined by file name).  Roughly one image in 256 has this issue and developers have refused to change the caching system to resolve it.  Dragons flight 14:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured non-picture 

message: Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, the picture in the "Did you know..." section is a rhinoceros woodcut, not a bidding box.
:Fixed. Thanks. Mushroom (Talk) 17:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: (pictured)

message: Hey, I was wondering if there was any way for featured pictures that are wider than they are long (that are displayed over the text, just like Wikipedia:Picture of the day/July 12%2C 2006) to be displayed with a width as large as each individual user's screen will allow? This would look really cool on the main page, and a lot of featured pictures only start looking good when they start getting big. - Jack (talk) 18:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Prehaps setting the width atribute to 100%. I'm not sure. Lcarsdata (Talk) 18:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that a user setting, or code in the teplate? - Jack (talk) 18:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured panorama pictures 

message: Oh, what a coincidence. Made me smile :) Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 00:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 02:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Eh...why don't you share it so we can all smile?--Cloviz 02:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Today is Mary Magdalene's feast day. The novel is based around cracking codes to discover the truth, which is the blood-line of Mary Magdalene. Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 11:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Da Vinci Code]] 

message: at the top of the main pg, it says we currently have 1,268,835 articles.
however, clicking on the link to the stats pg tells us that we have 1,268,861 articles. this statistic is probably changing as i type.
pls fix this contradiction. thank you. 202.156.6.54 05:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If I remember correctly there is a lag between the stats and the front page figure due to technical limitations. The figure is always in flux, with articles being constantly created and deleted, so a difference of up to 100 isn't a big issue. --Monotonehell 05:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, the number is automatically updated in both locations, but the updating happens faster off of the Main Page. The high number of hits on the Main Page slows its updating. —Cuiviénen 19:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks. 202.156.6.54 07:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: contradiction abt no of articles

message: Implies some kind of parity.  In fact, Lebanese deaths are an order of magnitude higher than Israeli losses.  In this report - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5206470.stm - are the values "More than 350 Lebanese have been killed in the 11 days of violence, many of them civilians.  Thirty-four Israelis have been killed, including 15 civilians killed by rockets fired by Hezbollah into Israel."  That's a factor of 10:1.  The phrasing on the front page is misleading.  "[M]ounting military and civilian casualties, particularly on the Lebanaese side." would be a fairer reflection of the true state of affairs.
:Bear in mind that the ITN blurb isn't designed to act as a full news story. As it stands, it's already the longest blurb up there, and is both neutral and accurate. Those interested in learning more can click on the link provided to do so. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 02:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it rather non-neutral for precisely the reason described above: it treats as equal an order of magnitude difference. Yesterday, I had a copy of the Observer which cites this exact phrasing in reference to media bias (tossed it, or I'd give the quote). Whether they were referring to Wiki itself I don't know. Marskell 14:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing in the statement implies equality of the losses, only that both "sides" are suffering "increasing" loss, which is fact if you accept there are two sides, which I do not.  Again this points to the idiotic concept of NOPV, how do you state something on this without someone seeing it as biased.  And probably the only way to state it without someone seeing it as biased would be to remove the true meaning from what is happening.  For example even the use of the word "sides" gives me some problem since Lebanon is not at war, Israel is a side, but Hizbollah is a faction not a nation, so which is the side, the headline implies that this is a war between nations, that everyone killed on one side is part of a group as opposed to the other.  I would rather "total dead and injured mount in Lebanon and North Israel" but someone somewhere would state that this created an equality between the two sides.  Another statement like "Israel is destroying Lebanon" would be fine by me, but would be likely viewed as NOPV by 50% of the readers in the US. And Hezbollah is still holding 2 Israeli troops, if they handed them over that might end it, Hezhollah is also a guilty party, how do you seperate those killed in fighting for Hezbollah from innocent civilians?  Its just not possible to describe this in any human form without some subjective perspective.  This is simply a cornerstone of modern philosophy since the early 20th Century.  Its strange that the only place anywhere I read anything like NOPV is in Wikipedia.  Any freshman in critical methods, history, or philosophy would know the complexity of such a claim, and yet Wikipedia takes it for granted, its almost never questioned which is really strange. Are the claims I read that Wikipedia is a cult dominated by followers of Rand to be taken seriously, it seems like it.  As for the war in Lebanon and Northern Israel, having been to both places, here is the headline "humans continue to show what asses they are, innocent people die!" --Rhooker1236 15:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is the absence of qualification that leads to the implication of "equality of loss." Re the rest of it, of course there will always be some who find any statement on a topic like this non-neutral—but that doesn't invalidate the NPOV policy. In its absence, it's hard to see how drafting sentences like this would be any easier. Marskell 12:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: "The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens; the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis."
There are two semicolons in this sentence, which is grammatically incorrect. Try replacing it with something like:
*The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens. UN officials warn of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis. 
OR
*The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides. Other nations rush to evacuate their citizens, while the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis.  TomStar81 01:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Try WP:ERRORS. --64.229.207.138 18:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides" 

message: :"The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens; the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis."
There are two semicolons in this sentence, which is grammatically incorrect. Try replacing it with something like:
*The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides; other nations rush to evacuate their citizens. UN officials warn of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis. 
OR
*The Israeli-Lebanese conflict continues with mounting military and civilian casualties on both sides. Other nations rush to evacuate their citizens, while the UN warns of a possible upcoming Lebanese refugee crisis.  TomStar81 01:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS. --64.229.207.138 18:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar

message: The ITN that says "Former Khmer Rouge commander Ta Mok, scheduled to stand trial in 2007 for crimes against humanity in Democratic Kampuchea, dies in a military hospital in Phnom Penh, Cambodia." is very unclear. When I had read it, I thought the trial was going to be in Democratic Kampuchea. I would suggest putting a comma after the 2007. 03:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When I read it, it also sounded ambiguous to me. I've removed the phrase "in Deomcratic Kampuchea". Someone may want to add it back in later, but at least in this way, is sounds clearer. --HappyCamper 03:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it added nothing useful. :Democratic Kampuchea was just the name of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. --Dhartung | Talk 04:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  unclear ITN 

message: No need to complain for now, because the main page is very organized and not cluttered of unneeded information. The new multi-lingual coordination list is short and avoids rambling of how many languages exist in the world. The news articles can be expanded by let's say 10 paragraphs and given the links for more details. However, the Cherokee language suggestion hasn't been accepted. On the other hand, Nepali is expected to get included as the language has a million speakers. I love the main page's current format and let's keep things rolling smooth in Wikipedia. --Mike D 26 20:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Wikipedia:Multilingual statistics, Nepali and Cherokee Wikipedias have 79 and 50 articles respectively. Not sure what "speakers" has to do with anything. --Dhartung | Talk 04:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see, it's buried in #Proposal. --Dhartung | Talk 05:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia main page 

message: Can someone add a wikilink to the Zuleyka Rivera article? Carioca 03:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! --Madchester 03:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I just can't believe this is considered more significant (as determined by its placement at the top of the section) than a military campaign that has already displaced half a million people, killed hundreds, and may yet trigger even worse.  When historians look back in the future at how Wikipedia recorded "in the news" as a first draft of history, this will be another reason why our discreditors don't take an online, democratic encyclopedia seriously.  Is the policy that the most recent news must go at the top, or is there some standard for keeping the top story the most important?  Bruxism 06:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to have to agree with Bruxism. The Miss Universe thing doesn't warrant being higher than the conflict on the main page. It doesn't even deserve to be above the Tour de France. Some prioritization is necessary here.--72.197.96.86 06:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Did the disucussion on name changes for ITN get anywhere? I haven't checked. Maybe a whole raft of ITN changes should be proposed, or is it better to try and get bits through piecemeal, bit-by-bit? Carcharoth 17:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion ended with no real conclusion. The result was several speakers that raised the problems and several more who claimed there were no problems. Piecemeal changes usually end up like something designed by commitee; not really good for anything. I think it would be better to examine the holistic problems and solutons and put forward an entire model for replacement that addresses all concerns. But changes are slow on WP. --Monotonehell 19:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news - Miss Universe 2006