Talk:Amelia Earhart/Archive 3

message: The last few days have been marked with rampant vandalism, some of it traced to a school district in Minnesota but others are masquerading behind unknown ip addresses. Can I ask all editors who are particularly interested in preserving the integrity of this article, to be on the alert and revert all examples of vandalism. Bzuk 22:09 13 February 2007 (UTC).
:Thanks Gwen, I'm glad to see you are still in the business of swatting vandals. Bzuk 02:49 14 February 2007 (UTC).
Hm, something tells me this may have to do with Earhart coming up in some middle school teaching module each February, same thing happened last year (see other "vandalism" item on this page). Gwen Gale 04:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism2

message: Many thanks for Bzuk for adding the Lovell link about AE's accumulated (by 1927) hours of flying! ...I just thought it is rather related to the first paragraph of the "Boston" Chapter (about her flying itself)... so i placed the link there. Also, i thought that such info about her accumulated hours of flying is generally important and directly revelant to the Chapter's text (and to the general reason why Earhart deserves the Wikipedia page! - that is  exactly her flying)... so, i added the text of the Bzuk's "reference" to Lovell into the text itself. Also, i propose to modify a bit the paragraph about her California/Boston experience, adding - just in brief - the info about her persisting health problems and sinus surgeries. Accordingly to biographies (Lovell, Rich, etc.) it was significant and seriously influenced Earhart's life and activities in some periods: sometimes even on the airfield she was forced to wear a bandage on her cheek that covered the tiny tube - inserted "to drain the chronic abscess in the antrum that continued to plague her" (Rich, p.31-32). Also, i added the mentioning of Earhart's second period in Columbia University, her plans about MIT, and why she was forced to abandon it all (the finances of the family;  D.Rich, p.41).  And also, i tried to modify a bit the last paragraph of the "Family Fortunes" chapter, adding there the exact reason of her hospitalization in 1918 (that sinus infection) and the first Earhart's surgery caused by it - that, accordingly to biographers, was so serios that it "made her semi-invalide" (D.Rich, p.20) for some time. I added the proposed corrections to the article text... Kind regards! - sincerely, Alex V Mandel 16:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposing some flying/health topics updates 

message: The article has been semi-protected due to heavy petty vandalism and grafitti over the past few days. The topic has likely seasonally come up in some canned, standardized learning modules in middle schools. Same thing happened last February. Gwen Gale 20:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Gwen, I did trace some of the miscreants to a school district in Anoka, Minnesota so you may be right about who the "perps" are (if their childish messages didn't also give them away). Bzuk 21:12 15 February 2007 (UTC).
You know, I deal with it as no more than noise on a public wiki, though it got loud enough lately that the sprotect will help. Gwen Gale 23:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protection

message: Ok, something else altogether. I'm ok with how AE's birth-death bracket reads:
(24 July 1897 – date of death unknown) No worries. However, I would prefer
(24 July 1897 – missing 2 July 1937, declared dead 5 January 1939)
I tried to propose a policy to cover this over at WP:Date but got blown off by 2 editors who said it would be "instruction creep" and that it should be worked out on a case by case basis. I don't agree but whatever it's not that big of a deal. So, in absence of a clear policy over at WP:Date, would anyone mind if I changed the b-d bracket to show her missing and declared dates as shown above? Gwen Gale 14:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: While everyone is still here...

message: It looks like the article is suffering again from the new series of vandalism attacks... Alex V Mandel 07:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism again?...

message: Just a curiosity...I'm failing to see why this has a current event tag at the top. I was going to remove it, but wasn't sure if there was some reasoning behind it. Mercurialmusic 04:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The editor that placed this tag reasoned that the news stories have contributed to the recent rash of attacks by vandals. Whether it remains or not is not important as long as the protection remains. Bzuk 04:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough.  I'm removing the tag, then. Dce7 05:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Event?

message: As with many widely known celebrities, there are countless works of fiction and other artistic material referencing Earhart. I think this section has gotten far too lengthy and has become more or less a marketing platform. IMO the article should only list half a dozen (or so) truly notable and culturally significant reference to AE in the arts. For all the other items in the list, I suggest a list article which could be expanded with a bit of text, Amelia Earhart books and references in the arts (or something like that) with sundry sections for non-fiction, fiction and other media listings. Gwen Gale 23:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: In the arts section

message: One wiki page says on thing,another says the other,which is correct?
On the "Purdue" Wikipage it says this:
"Purdue also played a central role in Earhart's ill-fated "Flying Laboratory" project, providing funds for the Lockheed L-10 Electra aircraft she intended to fly around the world. Earhart began her fateful transoceanic flight from the Purdue University Airport.
On the Wikipage "Amelia Earhart" it says this:
"This time flying west to east, the second attempt began with an unpublicized flight from Oakland to Miami, Florida and after arriving there Earhart publicly announced her plans to circumnavigate the globe."
So did she leave from oakland,ca. , miami,fl. or west lafayette,in.?
Barn
Otis66Driftwood 21:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Miami; the other flights represented interim or staging flights. IMHO Bzuk 21:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To expand on this, "officially" they left from Oakland. In truth they started in Burbank and nothing was made public until they left from Miami. Gwen Gale 16:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: There's no conflict. First, the text doesn't say Purdue funded the plane specifically for the world flight. Second, there were two world flight attempts. The first attempt was widely publicized in advance but she ground-looped the plane in Hawaii. Whatever the cause of this mishap, it wasn't helpful from a marketing standpoint (the whole pith of this flight was, at its economic core, a stunt to sell books), so when she made the second attempt, this time alone with Noonan and in the opposite direction, GP kept it all quite dark until they had at least made it to Miami before announcing that the 2nd attempt was indeed underway. Gwen Gale 15:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, the text is not misleading nor is there a need for a revision. IMHO Bzuk 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Oops, I think I missed something in the post. I have rm'd the text from the Purdue article which asserted she began the world flight from the airport there. Gwen Gale 15:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks so much for your helpful input :) I did fix the text in the Purdue article following your question. Cheers! Gwen Gale 18:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purdue