Talk:Eastern philosophy in clinical psychology

message: I'm trying to stick to eastern and middle eastern and was tempted to add aristotle outside of the field. Have replaced that earliest refernce with Patanjali.--Ziji 07:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome 

message: Hi Peter - I added some photos and just wanted to throw out that the criteria for including a photo was largely intuitive including the following:
# Did not want photos to bump against each other, so once one biography was associated with a photo, the next few biographies went without photos.  (Of course, by shrinking the photos further -- for instance, to 50px -- this could be avoided as well.)
# For photos placed on the right side of the page, attempted to find photos of people looking left and vice-versa for left side of page photos.  (This is an old newsletter editing trick so that the photos lead readers' eyes inward toward the text.)
# Tried to have the photos represent people from different Eastern cultures, such as Tibet, Persia, Austria, Britain, etc., as well as different traditions, such as Sufism, Buddhism and European mysticism.
# Wanted at least one woman represented.  (Caroline Rhys Davids won out over Horney because I think Rhys Davids' conscious contribution in this particular area was more significant and because a photo of Horney would have been too close to Jung's photo -- and Jung's contribution to this field is definitely significant.  Also, I couldn't find a WP photo of Marsha Linehan or Kaisa Puhakka.)
# After all the above were inserted -- and given the large photoless space that the above insertions left between Jung and Rhys Davids -- I assessed that it might be appropriate to insert someone of the Jewish faith since you have included so many bios of people with Jewish heritage.  (Honestly, I think I initially evaded including such a photo because, given my own heritage, I didn't want to seem POV.)  FWIW, I was tempted to add Fromm (whose writing influenced me a lot) but decided that since he is already included in the referenced Buddhism and psychology article, I'd go for a fresh face to include.  Freud's links to mysticism are not well known (though the fact that he had Egyptian mythological figurines in his office is documented through many photos as well as, I vaguely recall, H.D.'s memoir).  So, after some hemming and hawing, I decided on Frankl.
To make a long story long, if you feel the need to change, delete, etc., any or all of these photos, please do.  I consider this article to be your baby, sprung from your heart and mind.
Best wishes,
Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 02:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again heart felt thanks for your gentle and harmonious additions. I think the baby can now walk free. My Jewish heritage some generations back in a founder of Great Synagogue London and NY so maybe not so close to my POV, BUT the depth/breadth of middle eastern Jewish and Islamic mystical influence in psychology should be acknowledged, if not by the founders then at least by modern day beneficiaries.--Ziji 06:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting points & interesting background! As for this baby, it's grown so fast!  Well done, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 12:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done you too. The pre-school is as this life comes to a close, I think.--Ziji 21:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added photos 

message: To conform to Wikipedia style should the title be lower case after initial word? If so how about Eastern & middle eastern influence in clinical psychology? I guess we open a new page with that, copy and paste this article and redirect old to new page.--Ziji 22:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Paul - FWIW, I think the standard method for achieving this is to use the "move" tab at the top of the page (between the "history" and "watch" tabs).  There you'll find an explanation of the move process and a box in which to enter the rationale for the move.  This way all the "history" edits, etc., will be preserved with the move (I think).  Hope this helps.  Best wishes, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 22:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having read Wikipedia:Naming conventions I think the only unconventional one is Influences, which should be influences. So I won't rush to do a Move (which I did not notice at top of page until you pointed it out - thanks).--Ziji 05:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page title 

message: Thanks, this is a very wonderful article! I really couldn't find any reasons for this article not to be included into Wikipedia. Eli the Barrow-boy 12:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well thank you. Will you add some material?--Ziji 21:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit busy doing my projects, but I may have something to add after I am done with a part of them. It's an interesting topic. Eli the Barrow-boy 05:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spectacular article 

message: There are many people mentioned in this article.  Some of them are SO important, they do not even have a wikipedia article.  Okay, being facetious.  Seriously -- there needs to be some discretion applied to this article and who to include.  In general, I would advocate moving away from lists and turning the article into more encyclopedic form. --1000Faces (talk) 07:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who to include?