Talk:Baldness

message: This article used to have supplments which had scientific evidence for effectiveness against baldness such as saw palmetto (which inhibits both types of 5alpha reductase, unlike finesteride which only inhibits the predominant one.) Why was this info removed? This information has also been purged from 'management of baldness.' And if we're moving management of baldness to an external page, finesteride should go with it.
:: Not mainstream research. --Ericg33 (talk) 08:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: why was all the supplement info deleted

message: However, a sedentary lifestyle is less likely to correlate with intelligence in the modern world.... Really? The vast majority of college professors lead a sedentary lifestyle, as do nearly all scientists.  Rocket scientists, not nearly as physically fit as you might think.  Writers, thought their intelligence may be questioned, don't tend toward the athletic.  Doctors.. okay, I'll admit most medical doctors tend to make some effort but they are the exception to the rule of intellectuals in western culture.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.32.4.51 (talk) 06:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  oh? better ask Stephen! 

message: Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wCWWamE5U Look up brands like Toppik and Haircubed.
I dont see it mentioned anywhere? Is it a taboo? Secret? Its been around since 80s as it seems just under different names. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8f_Q_lofk It is some kind of proteine (creatine?) organic mico-fibers that stick to the hair and make it look a lot thicker. Seems it doesnt work with full baldness but helps a lot with thinning hair. Cant find any study or research done on that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.148.78.156 (talk) 07:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  And what is this? 

message: "Total testosterone exhibits a positive relation to tactual-spatial abilities and to the degree of lateralization. Total testosterone is negatively correlated with verbal fluency. Testosterone in the saliva is also significantly positively correlated to tactual-spatial test scores and, in addition, to field independence. DHT and the ratio DHT/total testosterone are positively related to verbal fluency and negatively to the degree of lateralization of tactual-spatial performance."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.106.40 (talk) 07:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some smart person should put this in layman's terms 

message: "Female baldness is less socially accepted."
...oh, really?  care to add a cite or remove the statement?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.99.120 (talk) 23:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which society? 

message: Some of them are proud to be bald, sharing the charisma of famous film actors, such as Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas and Patrick Stewart, who have been considered handsomely distinctive, virile and epitomizing masculinity, in part, because of their baldness.
Should be changed from non-NPOV to some kind of mild positive slant...but how? Dreamyshade 10:53, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another NPoV thing 

message: * "Bald men are more "virile" or sexually active than others."
Like in the above cases, further counterexamples can be found, such as bald men with feminine behavior etc.
:so females are not sexually active?  not really a good counterexample.  it should mention that the myth stems from the fact that baldness is caused by androgens.
::Well...the intention wasn't to say that females are not sexually active, but rather that the myth wants bald men to behave in a more "virile" manner than non-bald men, while this is not scientifically proven. The phrase "Sexually active" in this case means almost exclusively "virile" or "active" sexuality (not including passive gay sexuality etc.) EpiVictor 09:07, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that statement goes to the exactly opposite end, by reversing the myth. In either case, there's little or no evidence for either claim (especially bald men -> gynecomastia ? Any references? ). We cannot back up either of them in the article, just state that such myths exist. EpiVictor 21:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

text: One reason given for Monks shaving their heads and leaving a rim was supposedly to imitate Jesus's 'crown of thorns'--66.87.184.227 03:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Feminine

message: apparently it is a myth that baldness is inherited from the mother's side of the family.  this should be added by someone who knows the facts.
http://nj.essortment.com/malepatternbal_rcad.htm - "Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, you get it from your mother! The explaination is genetic and linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. There is also an explaination of how your mother got the gene!"
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/article243.htm - "It’s an enduring and common misconception among patients that MPB is ‘inherited from the mother’s side’. Well, that statement is neither right nor wrong. Pattern baldness can be inherited from the mother’s side. But it can also be inherited from the father’s side."
http://www.shands.org/health/information/article/003246.htm - "A man can ingerit baldness from either hes father or hes mother."  :-)
http://www.shands.org/health/information/article/003246.htm - "Baldness is determined by multiple genetic factors. It is not always true that baldness follows the mother's line or anyone else's, or that it skips generations."
can anyone find anything authoritative? - Omegatron 19:34, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
Here's a pubmed citation laying out how baldness in the patrilineal line is correlated with baldness in an individual ( baldness in the matrilineal bloodline is also still an indicator )
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15237265&query_hl=7
--Wiserd 10:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heredity 

message: The accusation of stereotpying for the racial/ethnic differences in hair-growth/maintenance patterns is almost definitely disprovable with scientific research. Can someone add some counter-arguments please? 70.57.137.163 05:47, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme/unfounded statements 

message: Did anyone get permission to use  this on wikipedia. bakuzjw (aka 578) 13:56, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a Wikipedia mirror, see bottom of page. -83.129.31.42 15:22, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy vio 

message: I think we should move the treatment products section to it's own page, leaving only a summary on this page of the treatment scene. It's a specialized subtopic not relevant to many readers of this article.--Nectarflowed (talk) 03:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. This also needs more on the medical explanation(s) for baldness; currently there's only one short paragraph in the lead. —Charles P. (Mirv) 13:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Treatment products

message: *very interresting article. congratulations. I've heard about a women and a bald gorilla. The women treated the gorilla with some plants (that I dont know what), and the gorilla became very hairy and the scientists started investigations about that. I think it was in the UK. Do you know something about this? --Pedro 09:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Interesting

message: I support the merge, and would favour "baldness" as the title, with alopecia as the medical synonym. A systematic rewrite of both pages would be immensely helpful. JFW | T@lk 09:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now merged alopecia into this article. The old one is availble at Alopecia/History1, and is a candidate for speedy deletion. Brisvegas 02:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

text: "alopecia" is the general class of baldness. Within that category, there's androgenic alopecia (male pattern baldness) alopecia universalis (you lose all your hair) and autoimmune alopecia or alopecia areata (you lose and sometimes regrow patches of hair) —The preceding. There are links to each of these in the paragraph head  --66.87.184.227 03:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: This article is about the psychological impact of alopecia. It is not specific as to which type of alopecia. JFW | T@lk 18:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychological impact 

message: It is characterized by hair receding from the lateral sides of the forehead, known as "receding hairline" or "receding brow." An additional bald patch may develop on top (vertex).
Is there any known percentages of how much, or to what degree, male pattern lateral hair loss additionally includes hair loss at the vertex? Percentages of which comes first, or how far back lateral hair loss goes on average without hair loss on the vertex of the head? 67.5.213.93 05:45, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Percentages 

message: According to the caption of the gorilla image, evolution proceeded according to a plan. The purpose of developing a protruding, bald forehead was to gain a foreseen advantage. This total forehead development, I assume, occurred in microscopic changes over an extremely long period of time. The intermediate stages of the development were of no benefit. Only the final stages, in which the goal was approached, were helpful. Does evelution, then, occur as a result of some mind's purpose? This mind would be able to look ahead and see the advantage of a protruding, bald forehead in gorillas of the distant future. It would also choose to gradually attain its goal in very small intermediate increments of change.Lestrade 15:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Evolution doesn't proceed according to a plan. If a mutation creates a survival advantage, it will be selected for. If it makes no difference, it won't be selected for or against. However, you can't go through a disadvantageous stage to get to an advantageous stage. Holymolytree2 19:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Purposeful evolution

message: Re the efficacy of Serenoa Repens (Saw Palmetto) someone added the following. 
:This claim however is inaccurate.  In studies, Saw Palmetto was shown not to reduce serum DHT levels to any significant extent.  Unlike Propecia (finasteride), which reduces serum DHT levels noticeably, Saw Palmetto is not considered an effective treatment for hair loss.  It is also not natural as it can and does modify some hormonal processes in the body just as potently as synthetic medications can.
Extracts have been proven to be successful against both isoenzymes of alpha-5-reductase. I've removed this text and cited sources.
--Ryan Wise 14:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect revisions

message: As per the trivia comment "John D. Rockefeller had an extreme case of alopecia that caused him to lose all of the hair on his face, including his eyebrows and eyelashes."  The picture on the wiki page cited shows him having a (nearly) full head of hair, even as an older man.  Is the trivia comment supposed to refer to John D. Rockefeller Jr.?  Or some other John Rockefeller? Or could it be that John Sr. lost the hair on his face, but not on his head?  In any case, it should be addressed (by someone who knows what they're talking about. :) --ScottAlanHill 03:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry guys, I removed the trivia. Who cares about random celebrities being bald, and even if someone cares, why should it be in wikipedia? Pipatron (talk) 14:21, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Rockefeller 

message: Early baldness of the ordinary type(alopecia)
:Alopecia refers to all types of baldness. The phrase 'the ordinary type' is non-specific.
:Androgenic alopecia is not dependant on a single gene. Rather, variabilities in the androgen receptor gene, levels of 5-alpha-reductase in the scalp, stress, pathogenic stressors, levels of testosterone, levels of SHBG, excercise and diet all play a role in the progression of the condition. The gene for the androgen receptor is located on the X chromasome. Not all the genes involved in the balding process are known, however paternal balding is also an indicator that one's children will be bald. 
If this myth were the case, the condition would have to x-linked dominant. Genes that are X-linked, and dominant are the only type of gene in which fathers are guaranteed to pass the gene to daughters. Looking at the condition of a mother's father would only help in determining who will be affected if the gene for alopecia was x-linked and dominant, which it is not.
:A recessive gene (i.e. a defective gene which is effectivly masked by a functioning gene) could certainly be present on the X chromasome and thus be dominant in males, but recessive in females. If a gene is X linked, a father with that gene WILL inevitably pass it to their daughters regardless of whether the gene is dominant or recessive. The daughters may not inherit the trait however. 
:Furthermore, females may get 'androgenic alopecia' but they do not get male pattern baldness. Their hair loss is diffuse, and does not include a receeding hairline. 
:We demonstrate that genetic variability in the androgen receptor gene (AR) is the cardinal prerequisite for the development of early-onset AGA...The X-chromosomal location of AR stresses the importance of the maternal line in the inheritance of AGA.
:Adjusting for age, men whose fathers had hair loss were 2.5 times as likely to have had some level of hair loss compared to men whose fathers had no hair loss (95% CI: 1.3-4.9). Likewise, men whose fathers had hair loss were twice as likely to have hair loss than men whose fathers had no hair loss even after adjusting for age (OR = 2.1, 95% CI: 1.2-3.7 and OR = 2.5, 95% CI: 1.4-4.7 for Norwood/Hamilton and global description of hair loss assessments, respectively). CONCLUSION: Results suggest that the probability of male pattern hair loss is dependent on family history and age. Hair loss in a man's father also appears to play an important role in increasing a man's risk of hair loss, either in conjunction with a history of hair loss in the mother or hair loss in the maternal grandfather. Copyright 2004 S. Karger AG, Basel
:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understood it male pattern baldness is an autosomal trait the expression of which is affected by an individual's sex. A male can be heterozygous or homozygous for baldness and express the phenotype, whereas a female MUST be homozyhous for baldness in order to express it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.146.122 (talk) 02:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hair loss and genetics

message: Does anyone think that the various alopecias should be handled separately from one another? Their similarities are, literaly, superficial.
--Ryan Wise 01:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the various forms alopecias should be handled separately.  A middle schooler with no eyebrows or eyelashes is in a very different predicament than a middle-aged man with a receding hairline.  Each should be able to find info on his or her condition in a more efficient, accessible manner than the current alopecia page allows. M. Frederick 04:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Separation into types of baldness

message: I didn't spot a really appropriate place. Maybe a plain old link to a "Baldy comb" article? FYI, it rests against the palm of a hand with the loop going around the middle finger.
24.110.60.225 07:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perhaps this should go somewhere around here 

message: *Baldman, arch-nemesis of the evil Scotsman, is not actually bald, but perhaps is in a balding state.
Who?  What?  Where?  (Can this be any more vague?)  Could someone who actually knows what this line is about perhaps expand it so it makes sense to someone who comes across is? Wikipedia currently has no entry for Baldman and Scotsman is less than enlightening on this matter. g026r 02:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Is the term "disorder" really applicable to baldness? On a subjective level, I find it a bit severe to describe something so common and benign.
: Baldness is a debilitating disease that has reached epidemic levels in modern times in direct correlation with extended lifespans. I've seen guys get denied entry into clubs because they were bald, and what percentage of porn stars are bald? Hardly any. The sad truth is that many men in modern times are afflicted with pathological baldness and need to seek psychological assistance/corrective surgery. I consider baldness to an abberration of the human form. Also, I was reading the bible once, and it had a picture of Satan, who was bald. Holymolytree2 19:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disorder? 

message: There should be information regarding hair loss that can be caused by hair products, particularily spray and gel. There are no warnings on the products, but it can probably be taken as scientific fact that the products can cause balding. Treatments for this type of balding should also be added to the treatments section of the article. --Anon. 21:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hair products

message: Seems to be much too long.  Any of the current links that are particularly good? - brenneman {L}  00:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As there have been no objections, I'm going to forge ahead. - brenneman {L} 06:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links section 

message: I edited the 'bald is beautiful' insertions to make them less NPOV but I couldn't find any support for the cultural significance of the website. A google search showed that it had five minor incoming links. If the site is to be considered somthing other than a plug, can someone demonstrate this person's cultural significance?
--Ryan Wise 07:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sharon Blynn

message: In the brief section about ketoconazole, I recommend mentioning that Nizoral shampoo is the most common ketoconazole-containing-product used by people who have hair loss.  As far as I know, Nizoral is the only OTC product containing ketoconazole.  It would be beneficial to readers to mention the brand name, simply to make it easier for them to find/research it in the form it is available to them.  In baldness_treatments, Nizoral is mentioned by name when ketoconazole is discussed.
I would make the change, but am not positive about the NPOV implications when dealing with name brands.
Drake 17:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ketoconazole/Nizoral

message: Would like to place an external link to herhairlosshelp.com - More specifically to the forum since it offers a tremendous online support community to women who suffer from this affliction as well as other forms of hair loss.User:MMoyer 20 August 2006
:Herhairlosshelp.com has been added to the site-wide spam blacklist because of persistent spamming on wikipedia, which is why you have been unable to add it.  Aside from that, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory, so a link to a forum is inappropriate.  See Wikipedia:External links for more information. Neil916 (Talk) 06:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You spammed that link 21 times and showed no signs of slowing down until it was finally blacklisted.  See Wikipedia:External links under "Links normally to be avoided", especially items #1, #2, #3, #4, and #9 to see why the link you propose is not appropriate on Wikipedia.  The removal of your link while leaving any other links should not be construed as anybody "endorsing" any of the remaining links as being appropriate.  If you think they're inappropriate, then by all means remove them with an edit summary referring to Wikipedia's policy.  Sometimes it seems that spammers outnumber legitimate editors here on Wikipedia, so the extra help would be appreciated by all.  Neil916 (Talk) 19:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External link

message: Weightlifting causing baldness?
I've never seen any evidence for this, and it sounds especially fishy since men with male pattern tend to have lower levels of overall testosterone (and merely raised unbound testosterone). It's definitely relevant if true, but does someone have anything to back it up?
:If your body converts your testosterone into DHT (due to low levels of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) you're more likely to lose your hair. Men with lower SHBG (one factor influencing baldness) convert their testosterone into DHT. So they have lower T and higher unbound free androgens. Weightlifting increases testosterone which is either bound or converted into DHT depending on the person. Most anabolic steroids have the same effect. However daily aerobic exercise has been shown to raise SHBG, thus making hair retention more likely. So if weight lifting was mixed with aerobic exercise and steroids were not used, the outcome re: hair is less certain. You asked for support. Which part of this sequence do you want supported?
--Ryan Wise 03:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, men with baldness have lower total levels of testosterone, but higher levels of unbound testosterone. The only part of the equation that is not clearly substantiated is whether or not weightlifting increases the levels of unbound testosterone. It certainly seems intuitive, but I'd still like some sort of source on it.
Can anyone find any source, for whether or not weightlifting increases the levels of unbound testosterone? If not, it doesn't seem like the mention of weightlifting being a potential cause should be in the article.
To add something else, isn't it possible that muscle hypertrophy "consumes" free testosterone, and could thus be GOOD for hair? It just seems like there's no evidence regarding the effects of weight training on levels of free testosterone, so it shouldn't be in the article.
If anything it would be the other way around. Dr mercola found a high incidence of insulin resistance in prematurely balding men. weightlifting increases insulin sensitivity. the small temporary raise in test that weightlifting might give would not be significant in hair loss, moreover as mentioned what is important is free testosterone.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PowerSam (talk • contribs) 01:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Does weightlifting cause baldness?

message: Subsequent versions of the treatment are expected by some scientists to be able to cause these follicle stem cells to simply signal the surrounding hair follicles to rejuvenate.*
While some scientists claim this, it sounds dangerous. Folicles in a bald scalp are senescent. That means they are "old" at the cellular level. While senescent cells can be made to grow again (there are cases of immune suppresant drugs leading to hair growth in senescent cells) this would pose a severe cancer risk. --Ryan Wise 03:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hair multiplication and rejuvination

message: Male pattern baldness is characterized by hair receding from the lateral sides of the forehead, known as "receding hairline" or "receding brow." An additional bald patch may develop on top (vertex). The trigger for this type of baldness (called androgenic alopecia because it is caused by male Gay-hormones or androgens) is DHT, a powerful sex hormone.
I've removed the instance of "gay", because I didn't find it on the androgens page, and it just looks like vandalism. If this isn't vandalism, it seems poorly worded. Thoughts? --Muna 11:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism? 

message: Has anyone who used Accutane to treat Acne in their teens experienced unexpected hair loss or balding, or more rapid hair loss than expected? 
I have.  Please share your thoughts and experiences. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.251.36.103 (talk) 04:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: please note original research is against wikipedia's policies. --Ryan Wise 05:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accutane and hair loss 

message: Apparently if you have full chest hair, back hair, and shoulder hair you have a 90% chance of being bald. Is there any truth to this or is it just another myth? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.30.128.68 (talk) 06:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More body hair = greater risk of baldness? 

message: I am writing a play on a handicap or disability and (not to offend anyone) Alopecia is on the list of disabilities. I would like to write it on a person (probably female) with extreme Alopecia (my other option is Body Dysmorphic Disorder). Does anyone have any important info, sites, etc that could help me? Ladylaughsalot 19:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing a play 

message: This article cites numerous sources. Could whoever put that tag on here please at least go through and put some {fact} tags where they'd like more references? --Ryan Wise 14:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citing sources

message: The article has 26 sources, no 'citations needed' tags and a warning at the top saying that the article 'cites no sources?' If someone disagrees with the content of the article, could they at least give some constructive criticism in regards to what they feel should be fixed, supported, etc. Thanks.
--Ryan Wise 02:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Warning tags unhelpful

message: The Leimo laser was recently approved by the TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration) of Australia as a Class IIa Medical Device that regrows hair. Its ARTG number is 139 546.
I just fixed the ARTG number, it was actually the number of a catheter introducer.  The TGA information only mentions 'laser, diode', it makes no mention of the devices ability to cause hair regrowth.  Should this product even be mentioned?  I can understand having a section on regrowing hair with lasers and other research but mentioning this one specific product seems like advertising to me.  Should it be removed?
MrFlit (talk) 05:01, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Leimo

message: Recent studies point to the data that users who shampoo with products containing Sodium Lauryl Sulfate lose hair. This is worth looking into:
http://www.ioniczone.com/sodium-laur...tion-s/130.htm
http://www.hairlossbuddy.com/20/sodium-lauryl-sulfate/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.130.202.252 (talk) 04:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shampoo leads to hair loss!

message: Whomever wrote the section on placebo being a type of treatment based upon sexual side-effects  with placebo/finasteride seems to have misunderstood the meaning of treatment.  I am removing this section
Tiny.ian (talk) 20:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Placebo are not effective in treatment 

message: I'd like to work towards slimming this article down a little, it's quite a jumble right now. Let's zap the Trivia section entirely, especially since Trivia sections are generally discouraged. —Noah 02:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've worked it out. I removed all the celebrity crap and moved what was left up to the main article. Pipatron (talk) 14:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nicely done. Thanks. —Noah 07:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Trivia section 

message: This seems worthy of its own page. Why don't we fork it off and get it out of the main article. Thoughts? —Noah 02:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baldness folklore 

message: This blog has some good information on hair loss and treatments.  I think it is a good source, as it is written by a doctor (who is not trying to sell anything) that could be used as a citation, included as an external link, or extracted into the full text.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.227.103 (talk) 13:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Blogs are Links normally to be avoided--Hu12 (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Links to blogs and personal web pages should be avoided, except those written by a recognized authority."  It would appear that a link to a dermatologist's website meets the criteria of authority.  No? EBMdoc (talk) 01:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Please take a look at the specific requirements of our External Links and Reliable Sources guidelines. I don't think this link meets either guideline.--Hu12 (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: This phrase is tautological. Someone who knows what is meant should fix it. Ordinary Person (talk) 02:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lateral sides 

message: هل يمكن أن يحدث الصلع الذكوري أو الوراثي بدون تراجع خط الشعر الأمامي؟ هل هناك فرق بين الصلع الوراثي والذكوري؟ هل يمكن أن يحدث الصلع الأنثوي إلى رجل؟  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.234.226.233 (talk) 00:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please help! 

message: stomach what can a woman take to flatten her stomach in replace of tummy tuck  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.186.21 (talk) 15:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't this question be better asked elsewhere? Anyway, the solution is not a pill, but exercise and weight loss. Skin will tighten up over time. Abductive (reasoning) 16:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Off topic, leave up for a couple days

message: There is conflicting data/contrary evidence out there according to at least one comprehensive study in middle age to older men that regular aerobic exercise actually slightly increases DHT levels, which contradicts the claim made by one contributor in the Treatments section under Exercise. I plan on making changes to this section if it can;t be refuted here in discussion. The study in question can be found here: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/569299  B.Soto (talk) 22:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflicting Data Regarding Exercise as Treatment 

message: Citation #17 is a horrid link. Unless someone finds another source for the info corresponding to that link, the text should be deleted. (Referring to: "Most cases associated with female baldness can be treated in a very effective fashion because of the advancements made in the field of medical science...[17]") — Eric Herboso 19:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Went ahead with being bold and removed the text. If you want to work the text back in using a different source, here's the removed text for reference. — Eric Herboso 19:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  terrible citation 

message: We all know what bald men look like, but not bald women.  The Female Hair Loss section could really use an illustration. Dlabtot (talk) 03:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture needed. 

message: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-va-researchers-may-have-discovered-190273.aspx
"Now, a team led by researchers from UCLA and the Veterans Administration that was investigating how stress affects gastrointestinal function may have found a chemical compound that induces hair growth by blocking a stress-related hormone associated with hair loss — entirely by accident..."
worth including?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiserd911 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: news

message: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45259102/ns/today-today_health/#.TsFkIla3O0s
"The drug [Latisse], which in its earliest, unsexiest incarnation existed solely as a glaucoma treatment, is best known as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration-approved wonder drug that can grow and darken your poor listless lashes . Now, it's being tested for a new use: growing hair on your dome."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.197.219 (talk) 18:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: more news

message: The hair loss is named alopecia, if you lose hair, you become bald, because of that, this article should be merged with "Alopecia", both terms are the same. --BOMBINI (talk) 23:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ramwithaxe 21:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Baldness]] is the same as [[Alopecia]] 

message: This article is a mess and needs serious Wikification. There are parts that read like blog entries with significant sections of unreferenced editorializing. Someone should clean it soon. Ramwithaxe 21:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikification

message: On the Wiki page 'Androgen', there's a chart revealing DHT's potency and text reinforcing this:
Determined by consideration of all biological assay methods (circa 1970). Data from Steroid Biochemistry and Pharmacology by Briggs and Brotherton, Academic Press.
Testosterone 	100
5alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) 	90
Androstanediol 	60
Androstenedione 	20
Dehydroepiandrosterone 	10
Androsterone 	10
5alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) was 2.4 times more potent than testosterone at maintaining normal prostate weight and duct lumen mass (this is a measure of epithelial cell function stimulation). Whereas DHT was equally potent as testosterone at preventing prostate cell death after castration.[10]
2.98.155.225 (talk) 12:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  here's a citation for the powerful nature of DHT 

message: I have proposed a merge from baldness to androgenic alopecia, with any remaining content merged into alopecia, and a comment left on Androgenic alopecia stating "the term baldness redirects here. For other causes of hair loss , see alopecia. For other uses of 'bald', see bald (disambiguation).". Any comments are welcome. A concurrent discussion is underway on Wikiproject Medicine, available here. 
This merge seeks to reduce the duplication in content and improve the overall quality of Wikipedia. LT90001 (talk) 11:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree-- seems logical. Lesion (talk) 12:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge