Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Seventh-day Adventist Church

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message: At Talk:Adventist studies I have proposed enlarging the existing merge to the goal of merging and deleting the whole article. Let me know your thoughts there, thanks. JJB 18:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Adventist studies]] 

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message: Your review of the article Historicism (Christianity) is requested. A new editor has begun to revise it substantially and some oversight is needed in that regard. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 16:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denton E. Rebok. If anyone can provide more sources for this article that would be good. I am not an expert but he seems to be a fairly important person in his field, but as it is the article does not establish that WP-wise. BigJim707 (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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message: I think it would make sense to maybe alter the main project pages of the various groups and WikiProjects which directly and more or less exclusively relate to Christianity in a broad sense into pages similar to those of the various units of the Military History WikiProject, like, for instance, WP:FMH. Would it be agreeable to the members here to make such an alteration, and, maybe, turn the extant project talk page into a redirect to the new Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard? I think doing so would probably increase the number of editors who see any relevant notices, and might increase the number of editors working on the related content. John Carter (talk) 21:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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message: Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapel Records. Can anyone help me rescue this article?  The record label has been very significant in the course of Adventist Music, particularly in the 1960s and 1970s, heyday of Del Decker, King's Heralds, Heritage Singers, etc.  Thanks!  78.26 (talk) 01:54, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: I was reading the article in the headline, and I bumped into the section Seventh-Day Adventists:
The text above is pretty good, the problem is that there are no citations or referencences. I do have material supporting the text, but it's in Spanish. If anyone here has a book at home about this topic, I'd be thankfull if he/she provides a nice citation. Best regards, --Cristian ] Yes? 01:57, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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message: I have been working on fixing the pages that link to Seventh-day Adventist Church to avoid redirects. I just ran across about 4 biographies in a row (James R. Nix, George R. Knight, etc.) that all list occupations in a box in the upper right, sometimes with other information. I guess this is okay, though it would be better if the person doing it created a regular biography box instead. But the main issue I have with each of these is that the first line under the "occupation" heading is "Seventh-day Adventist" or "Seventh-day Adventists" (even worse), which, last time I checked, are not actual professions. I agree that being Adventist is an important part of the life of these people, and has significant effect on their professions, but that doesn't make belonging to the denomination into an occupation on its own. On some of the biographies I have left comments on the corresponding talk pages, but now that I see there is a trend, I thought I'd bring it up here. I think that line should simply be removed, though I did try to remove the  on one of them, so that it read "Seventh-day Adventist Historian," "Historian" being what was listed as the next occupation. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 01:25, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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message: I'm wondering if there would be any objection to broadening the scope of the WikiProject to include other Adventist denominations and, accordingly, to renaming the project WikiProject Adventism. While distinct, the other denominations are closely related, and it seems that some (non–Seventh-day) Adventist articles are already tagged by the project. Graham (talk) 00:36, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject scope 

message: The article says "In the Feb. 28, 1845, issue of the Hope of Israel, a Seventh-day Adventist periodical in Portland, Maine, was reprinted in tract form in March, 1845, with the title, Tract, Showing That the Seventh Day Should be Observed as the Sabbath."
The Seventh-Day adventist church did not form until 1863, 18 years after the tract was printed. Steven J.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.205.132 (talk) 19:27, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it would be an Adventist/Millerite publication. Legacypac (talk) 05:13, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Hope of Israel" could not be a Seventh-day Adventist periodical in 1845 

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message: The template for "Sabbath-keeping churches" includes a final row of denominations which "Observe both Saturday and Sunday". I don't think this should be part of the template, on two grounds:
1. Anyone who has "two Sabbaths per week" is not observing the Sabbath. To observe the Sabbath means to work six days then make Saturday a special day of rest. It is therefore impossible, by definition, to observe the Sabbath twice per week. I don't think anyone would claim to have two Sabbaths per week.
2. The churches listed do not in fact claim to have two Sabbaths per week. Nor do they observe the Sabbath on Sundays. They consider Sunday special as it's the day of the Lord's Resurrection. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the Sabbath, so those churches should be moved to the category of churches which keep the Sabbath. Grand Dizzy (talk) 17:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove churches that "Observe both Saturday and Sunday" 

message: This is really more of a question or suggestion for others to consider, and reject if they see fit. The template titled "Sabbath-keeping churches" - would it perhaps be useful to change the title to "Sabbath-observing churches",  "Sabbath-practising churches", or "Sabbath-maintaining churches"?
I ask because "keep" is a distinctly legalistic word (you either "keep" the rules or you break them). This kind of language fits in perfectly with legalistic denominations such as Adventism. However, it precludes adding Christian denominations to the list who reject legalism but still practise Mosaic Law, including the Sabbaths and feasts.
Then again, I do not know if there are many (or any) denominations like that. I am only really speaking from my own perspective, as a Christian who practices Mosaic Law in the spirit of the New Covenant. To me, the Sabbath is of the utmost importance and I would never wish to do any labor on a Saturday, or even leave the house, yet I certainly do not "keep" the Sabbath, since that kind of language (to me) is an Old Covenant way of thinking which Galatians utterly refutes. Grand Dizzy (talk) 17:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the title of "Sabbath-keeping churches"? 

message: *Hello! I came across this article on 3ABN, and I was mystified regarding their affiliation with the Adventist church. Their "About" page explicitly disclaims a relationship, but I did a little research, and apparently they are known as a supporting ministry and have quite a bit of affiliation with the Adventist church! This article, and associated articles as well, have quite a bit of the Adventist trappings: portals, infoboxes, etc. It would behoove the maintainers to include this information in the article, along with reliable secondary sources which accurately describe the Adventist relationship. When I first came across this, I was inclined to delete all the Adventist stuff, because the article contained not even a whiff of an assertion that they are affiliated, much less a reliable source to support that. Thanks! 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 20:46, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
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