Talk:Baccalauréat

message: Hello
the Baccalauréat, June 2010 session began this morning With The test of philosophy, here are the topics:
Scientific Series (Série Scientifique), A topic to choose from:
1 - The art can do without rules? (L'art peut-il se passer de règles ?)
2 - Does it depend on us to be happy? (Dépend-il de nous d'être heureux ?)
3 - Explain an extract from "Leviathan" of Hobbes. (Expliquer un extrait du « Léviathan » de Hobbes)
Literary Series (Série Littéraire), A topic to choose from:
1 - The search for truth may be disinterested? (La recherche de la vérité peut-elle être désintéressée ?)
2 - Should we forget the past to provide a future? (Faut-il oublier le passé pour se donner un avenir ?)
3 - Explain an extract from the "Somme théologique" by Thomas Aquinas. (Expliquer un extrait de la « Somme théologique » de Thomas d'Aquin.)
Economic Series (Série Economique), A topic to choose from:
1 - A scientific truth can it be dangerous? (Une vérité scientifique peut-elle être dangereuse ?)
2 - The role of the historian is he to judge? (Le rôle de l'historien est-il de juger ?)
3 - Explain an extract of "moral education" of Durkheim. (Expliquer un extrait de « L'éducation morale » de Durkheim.)
(Etoilegirl010 (talk) 16:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Baccalauréat, June 2010, Examples of topics in philosophy

message: Why does the article only concentrate on the French school system? The Baccalaureate is used internationally.
:Look carefully at the heading! This article is not about the International Baccalaureate. NRPanikker (talk) 15:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: French?

message: Calling the TPE a "research project" is slightly exaggerating! 
:: Not calling TPE a research project, now thats exaggerating! I worked over 4 full days to make my TPE excellent. It was a mix of biology and eco. 3 of my friends and I did a TPE on hybrid cars, and it was a great experience, the team, the research, the statistics, the organization...everything. So even if ur so sceptical about this, it doesn t mean its not a real reseach.DedMed 09:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: TPE

message: Here's one more userbox since there nearly aren't enough. This one is for bac students and graduates. You can get your own with the  tag. Bobsky 04:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bac userbox 

message: Please provide a discussion on the derivation of the equation; at best it appears to be "une blague" - and a poor attempt at that.  A fourth power relationship between raw score and percent does not make sense.  Aloysius Patacsil 06:38, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
: Non, ce n'est pas une blague and neither is it a fourth power. The * is a multiply sign. I'll make it clearer. By the way I got the formula here and have used it myself extensively. Bobsky 23:37, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, this formula might work in Canada, dunno, but it won t work in the rest of the world. If for example you have 14/20, in percentages that would be: 14x5= 70. Now that  x5  works only if you want a percentage and if u want it from a french mark, coz 20x5=100, 20 being the french mark and 100 being the percentage. Then there is also an other VERY useful formula, for example if u don t wanna see the mark in percentages but say, in something / 80. Now if u have 14/20, and u want to see what would that 14/20 give in terms of /80 u do this : 14/20 which is 0.7, then multiply by, in this case 80. which gives us : 14/20=0.7x80=56, or : (14/20)x80. Which means that ur mark 14/20 means u have 56/80. U can do this in every case, for example, if ur test is on say...248, and u want to bring it to a french mark something/20, u just do : ur total of point divided by 248, multipled by 20. ex: (220/248)x20=17.74, if ur professor likes u he/she ll give u 18 :P. DedMed 09:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, but all you're telling is (x / a) * ( a / c ) == (x / c), which is self evident. 90.28.79.33 16:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formula for Converting French Grade to Percentage 

message: Hum, doesn't the article lack a thourought explanation of the coefficients system? Perhaps we could include it in the chart?
Tailindil 17:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coefficients 

message: "A mark of 18 will earn a mention of excellent (phenomenal honors)" In this case, doesn't the student rather earn the "félicitations du jury"? Apokrif 11:46, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I've never heard of a mention excellent. If I recall correctly, the person who gets the highest average on the test gets the félicitations du jury but there is no higher honours than très bien. Bobsky 03:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, the attribution of félicitations du jury is entirely at the panel's discretion. I was awarded félicitations with just 17/20, which was not the highest average of the year nor even of my class. I assume this is because I did the option internationale, which is considered to make things harder. I can't find an official source but the French wikipedia page on this subject explains this better:
"Cette distinction supérieure à la mention très bien n'existe pas officiellement, même si ce terme est souvent employé, que ce soit par les journaux, ou même les enseignants ou les élèves. Il arrive que le président du jury ajoute cette mention de façon manuscrite sur le relevé de notes du baccalauréat. Il est généralement considéré (probablement tout aussi arbitrairement) qu'une moyenne supérieure ou égale à 18 équivaut à l'attribution des "félicitations du jury"."
195.212.29.92 12:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''excellent'' / ''félicitations du jury'' 

message: Some sentences exagerated on the importance of Mathematics in S... it is not ALWAYS the subject with the biggest weight! In fact most of the scientific pupils choose physics or biology as a speciality and have a weight of 8 on it, while math is only weighted 7!
That's why I errased a few sentences!
LilKT 15:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Math for série scientifique

message: There are many other sections for the baccalauréat than just the L, ES and S ones (STT, STI, SMS,...) Perhaps this could be explained a bit more... but I don't have the knowledge to do so! :s
LilKT 15:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Technical sections???

message: I never heard about the fact that there is "Engineering Sciences or Biology-Ecology" as it is written in the grid in S... you only have Earth & Life Science weight 6 or 8 for 3 1/2 hours (written) plus 1 hour (laboratory)!!!
LilKT 15:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistake...

message: « The baccalauréat permits students to choose to sit for exams in over forty world languages or French regional languages (such as Basque, Breton, Corsican, Franco-Provençal, Picard, Norman, Créole, Occitan, Roussillonais Catalan). »  Is this true? It is difficult to believe. I have never heard this. It should be removed unless someone can cite a source.
Charvex 09:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Over Forty Languages???

message: The author of my Cassell's Compact French Dictionary puts "B. ès L." after his name on the title page. Is this a common practice in France? NRPanikker 19:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is *extremely* rare in France to use postnominal letters, especially for something of such little significance like the bac. In fact, before now I'd never heard of it. Medical doctors might, but other PhD recipients hardly ever do (I don't, and I know nobody who does).   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.57.12.119 (talk) 16:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Postnominal letters 

message: What equivalence is the French baccalaureate granted in other education systems? For example, it seems from the description that it must be harder to obtain than a US high school diploma: so would a bac holder gain advanced standing at an American college, and start in the second or third year? NRPanikker 19:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Equivalence 

message: Wasn't this first made by Napoleon?  I think there should be a wee history section explaining it. --80.6.144.141 (talk) 19:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose move as listed. Baccalaureat unqualified means the French examination in my experience, as opposed to the International Baccalaureat. Happy to be proved wrong on this. But even if it's to be moved, there are better ways to disambiguate... perhaps Baccalaureat (France)? Andrewa (talk) 00:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: This is a proposal to merge the contents of European section here (or delete it).
Rationale: On its own it doesn't warrant an article but seems to have information that is not here. Mcewan (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Moving European section to here seems appropriate to me.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 14:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Reading the two articles it seems a good fit here. I'm merge it. Blackash have a chat 10:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal - European section 

message: There seems to be an odd sentence located in the far right cell of the sixth row in the explanation of the content of the Serie scientifique exam: "The grade is the sum of the research file grade, from the teachers that framed the students; the final file; and the oral grade, from the two teachers who took part in the oral examination."  Assuming that the baccalauréat exam is not a police procedural, there must be some better word to replace "framed".  As it stands, the meaning is unclear.  Maybe someone who can understand the French version of the page better than I do can replace that word (or sentence)?  APerson241 (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with breaking the language barrier