Talk:Hank Greenberg

message: The below sentence doesn't make sense in the article because there in no mention of the 'other' son.
"Their other son, Stephen, played five years in the Washington Senators/Texas Rangers organization."
Any objection to editing out the word 'other'? 
Mattsky (talk) 17:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Other son?

message: The entire article is quite heavily lacking in citations, especially with respect to facts. Can we add some?
Dbk1441 (talk) 05:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: Is it really necessary to point out he was Jewish with such prominence and overkill?  Some of the introductory paragraph seems to not be NPOV... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.195.114.79 (talk • contribs) 24 June 2005
I agree. The opening paragraph or sentence should be a quick summary of who the player was but not into his overall background. I moved info regarding his religion into a seperate section although I question the relevance of it in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dysepsion (talk • contribs) 7 July 2005
I realize this is a really old conversation, but I wanted to leave a not as to why I'm re-inserting the Jewish thing into the intro. Greenberg played baseball at the height of anti-semetism, and he was the only star Jewish athlete of the time. He was heckled with anti-Semitic slurs, and it's commonly believed that he didn't break Babe Ruth's home run record in 1938 because pitchers who didn't want a Jew to hold the record pitched around him. He was a role model to young Jewish men at a time when they were stereotyped as weak, sneaky, and bookish; the Sandy Koufax of his era. Not mentioning Greenberg's Judaism in the into is, frankly, like not mentioning that Jackie Robinson or Hank Aaron are African-American. Greenberg's Jewishness is central to his place in baseball history. --Djrobgordon 22:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except the statistical record shows (as explained in a recent New York Times article) that there was a highly unusual spike in the number of walks Greenberg got as he got closer to the Babe's record.  The next season the number of walks went down to normal.  For all the other home-run kings on record, there was no such unusual spike.  Despite your experience in major league baseball, your "understanding" of pitchers motivations would appear to be flawed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.160.10 (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

text: But I'd never want you to just take my word for it.  Voila!  The Tiger's 1938 season: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/1938-schedule-scores.shtml  
Take a look!  See?  Hank got unlucky.  He faced the one team that had the competitive and financial incentive to walk him.  Otherwise, who knows?  He may have hit three more and shared the record today instead of those fraudulent bums McGuire and Bonds.  Oh yeah,  how often was Bonds walked in his season?  Over 30%.  So get your race talk outta my sport, fellas.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.11.160.251 (talk) 09:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV - Jewish

message: Greenberg's ethnicity is gone into detail in the body of the article where it belongs. Thanks --Tom 20:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnicity in lead sentence

message: It has one reference? Most of that stuff should go as unsourced/original research. I'll hold off for now. --Tom 20:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Micellaneous section

message: It sounds like you are saying from 1927 to 1961 he was the only person to hit 58 homers. What about Foxx hitting 58 in 1932?
Do you agree with what I put in....... ?   Msjayhawk 02:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  58 Homers in 1938 

message: The sources might be at the end of the article, but each "fact" really should have a citation so readers don't have to look for them. I knoe Epee has done alot here, could that be done as well? TIA --Tom 16:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a few.--Epeefleche 21:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc section needs better sourceing

message: I jsut deleted the following section added earlier on 17 December 07:
==Anti-Semitism==
All during his major league career, Greenberg faced anti-semitsm.  Many people screamed and yelled at him during the games, calling him names offensive to Jews.  Henry Ford was one of the anti-semetic people.  He wrote a book called The International Jew, which blamed some of the world's problems on the Jews. Despite the name calling and rowdy fans, Hank stood proud and tall.  He did not let the crowd upset him.''
I have no doubt that Mr. Greenberg  suffered through anti-semitism.  I deleted this section because, for one, the anti semitism is addressed in the article.  Second, this section has no references.  Third, the inclusion of the Henry Ford comment, true as it is either has no bearing on this particular article, or does not make a case as to why it should be included here.
If someone can reference it, and show why the Henry Ford comment is of relevance here, then please re-add it.  Good editing! LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:22, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: deleted section

message: I deleted the edit related to his great grandson. Perhaps I should have left it with a request for reference. The commentary is really what I wanted to revert ("and i dont think that Hammering Hank would appreciate it that people keep editing this out of his page. Thanks.....").  This should be on the talk page, no? Wikipelli Talk 03:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Great Grandson and commentary

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: If there's something in these that's not redundant to what's in the article and encyclopedic in nature, it should be included in the article body, appropriately sourced: --Ronz (talk) 18:31, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: External links moved to talk

message: Ref: "No player had ever retired after a final season in which they hit so many home runs. Since then, only Ted Williams (1960, 29), Dave Kingman (1986; 35), Mark McGwire (2001; 29), and Barry Bonds (2007; 28) have hit as many or more homers in their final season."
Now that David Ortiz of the Boston Red Sox has hit his 36th home run in what is supposed to be his final season, would it be proper to change that sentence to reflect this fact, or should it be left alone for the time being, since the season isn't over and Ortiz has (1) yet to officially retire, and (2) a few more home runs that he will likely tally by season's end?  AJC3fromS2K (talk) 05:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Most HR in a player's final season

message: Hi Haley10jane (talk) 22:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Friends 

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message: Baseball Reference and Retrosheet have his 1933 RBI total at 85 and career at 1,274, but all other sources have his '33 total at 87 and 1,276 career. Baseball Reference and Retrosheet are very reliable, so I wonder which stats are correct. Maybe BR and Retrosheet made a slight error.2601:581:8500:949C:80E3:A2F:D7A1:81A3 (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really an error per se, but just representative of the fact that early baseball is plagued with statistical inconsistencies. Baseball fans have long had to live with slight irregularities in statistics. See here for more. EricEnfermero (Talk) 16:12, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hank Greenberg 1933 RBI and career RBI total discrepancy