Talk:Derek Bentley

message: After he was released, Craig changed his name and worked as a plumber.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.174.243 (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When Craig jumped off the roof, he said, "Give my love to Stella" or the like. This implied that he was trying to commit suicide, not to escape. This also probably means he was an Emo, so i would keep him away from any blades.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.37.209 (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that Craig had a knife, as well as a gun.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.37.209 (talk) 17:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is Christopher Craig alive? Werdnawerdna (talk) 02:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've not heard anything to the contrary.  Booglamay (talk) - 21:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Craig was born in 1936.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.29.112 (talk) 10:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Craig 

message: The introduction claims Bentley was granted a partial pardon in 1993, and a full pardon in 1998.  This incorrect. There was a pardon in 1993, and a quashing of the conviction in 1998.
The 1993 royal pardon was not "in respect of the sentence of death passed upon him and carried out. However in English law this did not quash his conviction for murder".  A pardon is not a quashing of a conviction - only a court can do that.  These are two separate things. Accordingly the 1998 Court of Appeal quashing of the conviction for murder was not a pardon. 
Incidentally, there was never any question about there having been a murder, and Bentley having been part of the criminal conspiracy that led to it.  His trial may not have been fair by modern standards, but I am not sure that the outcome would have been any different at a retrial.124.197.15.138 (talk) 06:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  So if I understand correctly, if the trial had been done by the book, the result would have been the same (death by hanging) ? With maybe the consequence of the law not changing and the death penalty not being abolished as it was ? Aesma (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pardon 

message: As I'm editting anonymously, I'm providing an entry here to notify the community I'm using a contempory news article to substantiate claims made towards the end of the page. This can be found on the Guardian website here  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.79.248 (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation provided referred to refusal of debate in Parliament 

message: The article says 'The jury at the trial found Bentley guilty based on the prosecution's interpretation of the ambiguous phrase "Let him have it".'  Do we know this?  The case for regarding the crime as a joint enterprise (the basis of Bentley's conviction) does not turn on what Bentley meant with these words, or whether he said them at all.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.223.40 (talk) 11:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let him have it 

message: Surely this article is wrong when it says the 1957 Act introduced discretionary sentencing. The jury could bring in a verdict of either capital or non capital murder, but once they'd done so, the judge had no discretion in whether to pass the death sentence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.223.102 (talk) 14:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homicide Act 1957 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 20:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Derek Bentley case →  – Article is clearly about Derek Bentley and not just the case The Midnite Wolf (talk) 18:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 15 January 2023