Template talk:English regions

message: NB. Most of the contents of this discussion page were written as discussion when the template was Template:United Kingdom regions, including both England regions and other parts of the UK. Then, on September 12 2005, somebody changed the content of the template to limit it to England, and moved it to the new name Template:England regions. A few hours later, somebody else moved the template back to its former name and reverted it to its former content; and recreated Template:England regions via cut-and-paste.
How does this template work? For exmaple when you are on the england page, the england link is not a link. How does that work?
:This is a general feature of links from a page to itself, not just for templates.  For example, if I type Template talk:United Kingdom and Template talk:United Kingdom regions here then the first becomes a link while the second is bolded, i.e. Template talk:United Kingdom and Template talk:United Kingdom regions. --Henrygb 14:28, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

message: This template is unnecessary and misleading.  It's called "United Kingdom regions", but it is just the :Template:United_Kingdom, with the Regions of England added.  Either create a separate "Regions of England" template, or put that information in the various "Districts of England" templates (i.e., :Template:NE_England).  --JW1805 18:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact this template lists the 12 NUTS level 1 regions of the UK as used by Eurostat and Office for National Statistics for regional statistics, so it is not misleading.  Since someone is as likely to want to go from North East England to Scotland as to South East England, there is no need to remove Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.  But the template exists because some Scots do not want to be equated with English regions, ands so is a compromise which came out of :Template:United Kingdom.  It works and does no harm. So keep. --Henrygb 09:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what you're saying (Although, by that classification, "England" shouldn't even be on here, since it isn't a NUTS region).  However, I still don't like this template.  It's confusing.  My first thought on seeing it was "why aren't the regions of Scotland, Wales, and NI listed?"  Also, there are links to 4 articles on this template that do not actualy contain this template (which doesn't conform to Wikipedia standards).  Finally, there needs to be a separate "Regions of England" template to match the various other UK regions templates (e.g. :Template:Scotland subdivisions, :Template:Wales_subdivisions, ...).--JW1805 17:19, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have a single level of local government.  England does not.  There is :Template:England counties, but that for example does not list Birmingham City Council, which is more substantial than any of the subdivisions of Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Greater London is politically and economically more significant that each of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as a whole.  England is peculiar and we have to live with that.  --Henrygb 09:18, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs to be merged

message: Mais oui!, please explain what you are doing.  You have changed the name of this template, and then basically made it a copy of :Template:United Kingdom, without any discussion.  At least Henrygb gave a reason for why this template should exist.  I'm reverting back to the previous version, pending further discussion. --JW1805 17:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Edits 

message: I have protected the template for a week because of the dispute over which flag, if any, should be used for Northern Ireland. Please try to resolve disputes on the talk page and come to a consensus. Sam Blacketer 12:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read this section you will understand why the Ulster Banner should not be used as the Flag of Northern Ireland.--Vintagekits 10:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That was written by someone with POV in this issue. Astrotrain 13:31, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actualy it was written by someone with no interest in the issue, and is based on the Northern Ireland flags issue and the facts of the issue.--padraig 13:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually it is an essay and not a policy ofr guidline- it reflects the views of the author. Astrotrain 13:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was put together by many editors and debated and altered during its time, so it reflect the consensus of those editors involved.--padraig 13:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Everyon has a POV. If you have an issue with it then please try and work to changing it - but its the guideline we have at the moment. Please try and work within policy.--Vintagekits 13:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I dont know, anyone?--Vintagekits 13:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See: Template talk:Country data Northern Ireland that is the main template that is used by   etc to render the flag, the problem is its used also in the sports templates.--padraig 13:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: If User:Astrotrain and friends insist on revert-warring here, will they please ensure that the correct protection template is transcluded and not subst'd. Also, reverting to a version with a full-protect banner is inappropriate - Alison ☺ 19:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While we are on the subject, and seeing as you are an administrator Alison, can you please see about getting the Template:United Kingdom constituents and affiliations page unprotected? I might be speaking too soon but it seems like the last place left were the Ulster banner is still in erroneous use. Fennessy 22:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not unprotected - you really need to discuss this with the protecting admin, User:Tariqabjotu, who only protected days ago with the message, "this flag issue just doesn't seem to want to go away" - Alison ☺ 22:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert-warring