Talk:William Bentvena

message: :Image:175px-0321051henryhill1.jpg
Why do people keep reverting the introductory paragraph from this
article. I'm reinstating it. Could an explanation be given before removing it again. Arthur Holland 13:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: How does Arthur Holland know that Devino is Batts' real name because I don't recall a reference to it in Wiseguy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.2.175 (talk • contribs) 
: I got the name from existing articles on Wikipedia. The Article was originally entitled Willam Devino. I know this contradicts my earlier statement on this talk page, but if you look at the article history, you will see that the remark attached to my first version of the article is that I copied it across from the misnamed "Willam" Devino article. I assumed it was wrong as the text of the article referred several times to "William" Devino. Elsewhere in Wikipedia, there were references to Batts' real name being Jerothe and/or Devino. I presumed that the Jerothe reference was an error as it didn't sound (to me at least) at all Italian. Apologies if I got this wrong.
:Also, for what it's worth, I will restate my opinion that this article is currently not in good shape at all: the language is far too flowery, POV and narrative in tone, and the level of detail is impossible to verify at this distance in time. I'm not inclined to make changes myself as the only people contributing to the page don't appear to agree with me - It's all yours; do what you want.  
:Furthermore, you might want to sign comments (you can do this by putting four ~ symbols at the end of your comment) otherwise the talk page gets rather confused. Arthur Holland 15:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Devino name  

message: Could you please confirm where you found out that Batts' name was DeVino, if you do not then it will be reverted to Jerothe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JBAK (talk • contribs) 
:I confirmed it two days ago (see above). Please sign your comments. Arthur Holland 10:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Holland  

message: I am becoming quite annoyed at the fact that people are constantly changing Batts' Date of Birth from the 19th-14th-9th. Could this please either stop or an explanation be provided. JBAK 15:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Birth 

message: Both DeVino and DeVinno, to my comprehension of Italian surname etymology, mean 'of wine', however Devino, spealt without making the V a capital letter, would mean 'divine', so could someone please tell me where they first saw the name and adjust the spelling as well. JBAK 15:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DeVino, DeVinno or Devino 

message: Can someone please verify where the initial information on Batts was gotten from, i.e. the date of birth and information on his induction into the mafia because otherwise this page is at serious risk of being tagged for a lack of sources. 
 
Lots of people have worked very hard (including myself and Arthur Holland) on this page and we require that extra verification. JBAK 17:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List the info  

message: There was noone named Ronald Jerothe. First of all, someone with this name could not have been made, because it is not an Italian name. Second William "Billy Batts" DeVino was very real.
Who left this message.
By the way I've never seen a book referring to anyone by the name of William Devino, I've read a few books, including Gangsters and GoodFellas and The Heist, mentioning a guy named Ronald 'Foxy' Jerrothe and whoever says he couldn't be made is wrong, it's an Italian name, pronounced JER-O-TEE. JBAK 19:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NO RONALD JEROTHE

message: I've read all of John Gotti's biographies and it never mentions William Devino once, if were a 'life-long' friend it would surely mention him. Whereas it repeatedly mentions Ronald Jerrothe, it seems reasonable that in fact the Billy Batts nickname was created for Wiseguy, and was used in Gangsters and GoodFellas, GoodFellas (film} and Joe Dogs: The Life and Crimes of a Mobster. 
In essence it seems reasonable that Ronald 'Foxy' Jerrothe was in fact Billy Batts, if there's no replies to this, proving that William Devino is definitely Billy Batts I'll soon be merging Ronald Jerrothe into this page. So it's required that someone give some evidence, soon. JBAK 21:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ronnie Jerrothe 

message: There is no J in Italian. Jerothe is not an Italian name. There was no Ronald Jerothe, William DeVino was Billy Batts.
Jacopo? Ajaccio? Juventus? Mpaniello (talk) 16:24, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: NO RONALD JEROTHE

message: I was just curious but does Gangsters and GoodFellas also detail when he got made, also there's a descrepancy in the article. It says he became a 'member' in 1959 and got made in 1961, I thought being a member and getting made meant the same thing. 
Also if he was called Batts because he battered a cop with a baseball bat, wouldn't he be Billy Bats, without the double t.
Becoming a member just means he was an associate, being made meant he became a soldier for the family.
Being a “Member” doesn’t mean an “Associate”. It refers to a person that was inducted (Made) into the family as a “Member” of that family.  Patriotpride16t (talk) 04:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getting Made 

message: From all the information we seem to have at our disposal the murder of DeVino was the only one Hill bore witness to, directly, and it's brutality has been emphasised in all writings and other representations of the killing, however, it's highly likely that many other murders were equally brutal (people struggling for their lives while being strangled, shot, bludgeoned to death, punched e.t.c., won't be a pleasant site in most cases), but because informants with the 'artisitc flair for reality' didn't see them they're portrayed in a clinical way, this article could follow that example.
JBAK88 10:17, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading portrayal 

message: In response to the person earlier who needed evidence that Ronald Jerothe and Billy Batts were not the same person, Jerothe was shot to death in his apartment. There was a crime scene and a body, he definitely existed.
Billy Batts, or William Devino or whoever he really was, is an entirely separate person. Unfortunately the NYPD is probably the worst agency to try and get any records from so that route, particularly without a case number or even concrete identifying details, is a dead end. The FBI debriefed Hill, and at least temporarily conducted an investigation into the Billy Batts murder, so that might be a possible way to find out more. Aside from that, unless someone can pinpoint a specific case file with the Attorney's Offices in New York, or perhaps if someone can figure out which Federal prison Billy Batts served his drug sentence at it is likely going to be very difficult to find anything meaningful on him to add on to Hill's account. Dugrad 11:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ronald Jerothe/Billy Batts

message: Needs to be fixed.Ryoung122 06:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mention of "Wiseguy" without introduction

message: The “photo” that has “William Devino’s name is incorrect. It’s  actually Pat “The Cat” Spuritto (spelling?) Patriotpride16t (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Completely wrong person