Talk:Motorcycle training

message: * Add more detail about typical curricula
* What effect does training have on accident rates?  Answer is in Hurt Report's and MAIDS report's findings.
* Mention other types of training, such as police motorcycle training, military, and off-road
* Include more factory training, such as Harley's Riders Edge, Honda's HART.
* Expand research section beyond Hurt and MAIDS.  Good overview here.
* More coverage of Semper Ride.
--Dbratland (talk) 19:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: To Do

message: For the next day or two I have a workpage up for the next major series of edits I'm doing.  Edits and comments by all are of course welcome.--Dbratland (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done with workpage. Speedy deletion requested.--Dbratland (talk) 15:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Workpage

message: : I would like to see one of you guys train a motorcycle to do anything!  You can train a dog or a horse, but you cannot train a car, a tractor, or a motorcycle. "Here motorcycle, jump!"  Do you think that would work?  
: What is more important?  Grammatical accuracy or the number of hits?
: Good grief. 67.142.130.12 (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: While it's correct, the common name for something is what is used on Wikipedia. That keeps Wikipedia from being forked into pedantry rather than reflecting common usage. tedder (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Grammatical accuracy wins anyway.  "Motorcycle" is often a noun, but nouns can also be adjectives.  Consider a "motorcycle helmet".  Is it a helmet for a motorcycle?  No.  Motorcycles have no heads, and no need of a helmet. It is a helmet for a motorcyclist.  Is a "motorcycle jacket" a jacket worn by a motorcycle?  No.  Motorcycles might have covers, but never jackets.  Because in these cases the word "motorcycle" is an adjective, used to modify the noun.  Thus a "motorcycle jacket" is not a jacket worn by a motorcycle, it is a jacket worn by a motorcyclist, the type of jacket is specified by the <I>adjective</I> that precedes it.  You can list hundreds of examples if you think about it. "Film school" is not a place where you teach things to films, it is a place where film<I>makers</I> are trained, even though we don't call it filmmaker school.  And we don't need to call it filmmaker school, any more than we need to say motorcyclist's helmet or motorcyclist's jacket.  Or motorcyclist training.<P>We are not going to move Bicycle helmet to Bicyclist's helmet, nor Motorcycle helmet to Motorcyclist's helmet, nor Film school to Filmmaker's school.  Or Flight training to Flier training.  Or Sail training to Sailor training. Or Altitude training to, um, I don't even know what you would move Altitude training to.  All of these moves would be silly, and not demanded by English grammar.  And, as Tedder says, Wikipedia would still keep them even if they were grammatically wrong.  But they're not grammatically incorrect. --Dbratland (talk) 22:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Motorcyclist training (term)

message: Rated this C/Mid. It'd probably get higher than a 'C' but it has major omissions outside of the MSF/police programs- even in the USA, that leaves much out (Team Oregon, anyone?).. let alone outside of the USA. tedder (talk) 23:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating

message: The Army National Guard lead image is clearly much superior to any others on the page, except possibly the police motorcyclists.  It's superior because it shows action rather than mostly static, stationary subjects, and because the motion blur and short depth of field give a better sense of dimension than the very flat Australian image.  The Australian image is also not very high resolution, and it is not very sharp; probably taken with a low quality camera.  The ANG image was actually released by public affairs officer and taken by a professional photographer, and it shows.<P>Both images illustrate rider training and are perfectly suited to being a lead, but the lead should also be interesting and serve to draw the reader into the article.  Bland leads with unprofessional photos are not helpful.  --Dbratland (talk) 17:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The army picture just shows a couple of people riding bikes. You have to study really hard to notice the mini cones i.e. you need to click the picture to full resolution. My personal opinion is that the depth of field and blur make it a bad not a good picture. The other picture shows a variety of machines on what is obviously a training area with marked out lines - and this is obvious at first glance and is typical of what riders would undergo with initial rider training. --Beemerboybob (talk) 21:35, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose we should see what others think; I'll be happy with whatever the consensus is.--Dbratland (talk) 22:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image. 

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