Talk:Winter white dwarf hamster

message: Reason 1 on the article, (The first picture in this article is no Winter White Hamster  It is a campbell.)
Reason 2 on the article,
Q. Should I get a male or female Russian Dwarf Hamster?
A. Female Russian Dwarf Hamsters tend to be easier to tame then their male counterparts. It seems that males need more patience to domestic properly.
I have many of both actually, and in fact it is the female that are usually stressed more easily when they are pregnant and female doesn't necessary meant a better pet. (In terms of difficulty to tame, I dont see any different if you are using the correct treats as different hamster likes different food. This is definitely an unreliable study view, as it properly goes only to the author's hamsters. Beside from my observation of my own litters, many female(1 day to 6months old) tends to display scared and stressed position when disturbed by stranger during sleeps and squeaked more often, while the male counterparts not as much, and usually involve attempts to shove of your fingers when disturb rather than squeaking at you. On usual, the only time when a male hamster squeak which means it is scared is usually during fights and when its young of 1day to 4 weeks old from my observe.)
Reason 3,
Q. Why do male hamsters start riding the backs of other male hamsters? Are they mating?
A. No silly, male hamsters cannot mate. First make sure that they are actually both male and if they are males then it is simply that the male hamster is reaching its puberty stage of development.
(Looking at how the author replied, it seems that author is totally unaware, homosexuality do exist in any mammals. I for one kept winter white of sapphire/normal colors myself, and I did observed older males(10months old) mounting on young males one of 1month old who is his son. The young mounted male is now 7months old fathering another 4, while the older one is dead. Hence I can confirm to you its a young male he mounted. Definitely again, not a study view and goes only to a few in the author's pet shop and he just happen to see for reason and think of it.)
reason 4,
Q. Can I place my Russian Dwarf Hamster with other hamsters such as Syrian or Chinese or Winter White or Robo Hamsters?
A. No, this is absolutely not a good idea. Each breed of hamster should be enclosed into a den of its own kind of species. For example, Syrian hamsters should never be placed with any other kind of hamster because it will naturally fight and try to kill rival hamsters
(A winter white should never be placed together with a campbell as well, unless you are going to produce hybrids which is far more of critical importance than mixing with other species, author failure to bring this out clearly show author properly didn't even know that campbell and winter white are 2 difference species. As a result, it is not ok to put hamster together just because both are dwarf because there are serveral species of dwarfs. Robo hamster is one of them though the author can only see this.)
Than again my observation is no deep analytical study views as well, but is definitely more reliable than the site I removed. Dsdsasds (talk) 02:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: i think there is a big mistake in the article:
"They enjoy each others company and are possibly the most communal hamsters in terms of living arrangements."
On pages like
http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/breeds/Hamster_-_Dwarf_Winter_White_Russian.htm
http://www.petwebsite.com/hamsters/dwarf_winter_white_russian_hamsters_behavior.htm
or in (german) books like
Judy Fox: Mein Zwerghamster zu Hause Bede 2003, 
you can read that they can be kept together but often fights occur.
This page has lots of errors and needs to be re-written by experts.
For the natural history of Phodopus sungorus, please refer to Steinlechner, 1998
Also, large volumn of research done by Wynne-Edwards:
  unsigned comment by 84.59.230.180 (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2005
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I agree with the above comment on them often disliking company and changed the text. Simon A. 14:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistake

message: I just got home from buying two of these animals and have just found out that one has died. The reason is obvious, there should be something in this article about traveling home with the Hamster in cooler temperatures. One of the hamsters I bought died of a heat stroke. Punk18
:See WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not a "how to" guide. Puffin Let's talk! 18:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heat 

message: "Winter Whites are not sociable and won't live together peacefully unless they are siblings, but even then, the hamsters might fight fatally. It is advised to keep them single, as in wildlife each of them has a territory of 12km²." Many places only sell them at pairs for a reason.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.61.186 (talk) 23:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social? Removed! 

message: Biological information - habitat, lifestyle, behaviour and such - should be present and indeed should come first. The German wikipedia has such info and one may translated from it or from some other non-English wikipedia.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 22:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand 

message: This page should be completely redone. It is filled with misinformation. First of all the Siberian dwarf hamster (phodopus sungorus) also known as the Russian Winter White hamster is NOT the Djungarian hamster. The Djungarian hamster is the Campbell hamster (phodopus campbelli). However, in the Wiki page for the Campbell hamster it says that it is a mistake to call it the Djungarian hamster when it is in fact the Djungarian hamster.
216.38.186.74 (talk) 14:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am working on this article. I enjoy the subject and have many books and internet sources. Puffin Let's talk! 19:31, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake with names 

message: I've renamed the article, breeders call these "Winter white dwarf hamsters", pet shops call these "Russian dwarf hamsters", virtually nobody calls them "Djungarian hamsters". "Winter white dwarf hamster" is the preferable name because a) pet shop "Russian Dwarf hamsters" are often cross breeds and b) they mostly live in Kazakhstan not Russia. Szzuk (talk) 21:32, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've converted the article to mostly mention them as winter white, i will check the redirects, read through and copyedit in due course. Szzuk (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: Erika and Erikin and brother and family and friends 2A02:C7F:185F:D800:6C36:4D82:4CA:E1BF (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erika and Erikin and brother and family and friends and family and friends and 

message: I think someone should add a section about care. 167.248.177.137 (talk) 01:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Care