Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 15

message: Somebody's edited one of the Anime pages to remove a sentence saying that Battle of the planets was made changed to be more space orientated when it was brought to the US as a result of the popularity of Star Wars.
This is true, but I don't have a linkable source to back it up. Does anybody else have one?
perfectblue 11:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of the planets/starwars 

message: Some IP user just went through and tagged a whole bunch of Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon images as being replaceable with freely available images. His contribs are here. Since it is definitely not true that those could be replaced, do we really have to go through all the process of responding to his templates, or can we just revert it all? (And yes, most of those images need rationales. That's a different problem that we can deal with pretty easily.) --Masamage 20:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WOW thats alot of damage! ill see what i can do but well im not really sure on the fixing pictures stuff Maverick423 20:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: im sorry i dont know how to fix it =( i asked for help from a admin so hopefully we can get this fixed Maverick423 20:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, it won't be too bad once we decide which course of action to take. I can fix it all myself, I'm just not sure which way would be best. --Masamage 20:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Considering it's anon and not an established user who tags images regularly doing this, I'm guessing it's someone messing around with the images. Just tag it with the template that they aren't in violation of the fair use rules and I'm sure the admins that will check out the tags will sort it out. NeoChaosX  (talk, walk) 19:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I snagged most of them, mainly the ones I recognized. I'm not sure about a few of the promo shots of real actors, though, because I don't know how those rules work. Could someone take a look? (They still have 'top' next to them in the guy's contribs). --Masamage 19:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PGSM images 

message: Since this article is within the scope of this WikiProject, interested parties may wish to weigh in at Talk:Clamp (manga artists). —pfahlstrom 22:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CLAMP article requested move back to CLAMP 

message: I'm starting to put the You're Under Arrest section under cleanup. Can anyone step in and help me here? Thanks. Ominae 03:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help in fixing You're Under Arrest 

message: Hi, since we are doing a huge infobox round in WP Films and we sometimes find animangas with a Film infobox request, I'll drop here titles I find with missing animanga infobox and tell others to list here further requests. If you have a request template for it, please let me know. Hoverfish Talk 18:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think our project has been pretty good at making sure articles have their infoboxes. There are a couple of messy stubs here and there that don't though. A bigger project is infoboxes that have stuff for only the anime (and not for the original manga or whatever). Also, apparently Red Shadow (I renamed it to Akakage since the series doesn't appear to have a English license) is actually on a character, so I'm not quite sure if it needs the infoboxes or not. At the moment, it probably does, since it's seems to be trying to act as the main article for all of his appearances.--SeizureDog 07:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox requests 

message: About a month ago I was cleaning up Nagaru Tanigawa and took out the Japanese text, replacing it with romaji. Someone's just put it back, but I'm not sure what the project consensus is here; Japanese for the article header seems like a good idea, but for the title of every book an author has written seems like overkill to me. Do we have a guideline or policy on this? Doceirias 20:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I generally see both given. Usually through the utilization of  to give uniform formatting. --tjstrf talk 20:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, as long as the book doesn't have an article itself, it's fine to include the kanji in the list of books. If an article exists for the book, then the kanji/kana should be in that article instead. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added  to the article and made some minor corrections. Btw, on ja.wiki there seems to be one more title for the Dengeki!! Aegis 5 series: "MOEOHセレクション 後藤なお画集 GALAXY'S CHILD" . However, I can't translate it. --Εξαίρετος (msg) 20:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an artbook, and probably shouldn't be on the writer's page. Doceirias 20:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese text in English articles 

message: Please comment in the discussion created at Wikipedia talk:Lists (stand-alone lists)#Lists of fictional characters by series as it concerns the naming of lists in :Category:Anime and manga characters by series--SeizureDog 08:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of fictional characters by series 

message: I've been working on an image that explains the uniforms used in the Sailor Moon series. We're not sure we're going to use it yet, but does anyone know whether I'm allowed to release that as my own creation? Are costume designs copyrighted? What if they're based on school uniforms? --Masamage 02:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is copyright in the US but not in Japan. For example, people win cases in the US for using the likeness of another product. But in Japan, doujin artists make money off the likeness of another product. But I'm not qualified to give legal advice. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 03:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dojinshi generally are copyright breaches under Japanese law, but Japanese culture is different form American culture so the big publishers are often far more willing to tolerate them than an American publisher would be (US companies are particularly brutal about copyright, far more so than companies in most other countries) so long as they don't get too big for their boots. Dojinshi help to raise the profile of character and to keep audiences interested between the releases of official publications and even help to keep interest in the official publications going long after they have stopped printing new stories. They are also watched by companies as a potential source of new talent (more than one Dojin artist has gone on to make it big in the pro circuit, members of Clamp for example).
perfectblue 07:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think that image is enough of your own creation to qualify under Creative Commons or a similar license. You should make sure the information in it, however, is backed up by information found on other reliable sites so it's not considered original research. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is. ^_^ I'll include that all on the image page if I upload the thing. But I don't know much about liscenses; what would you suggest for something like this? CC? GNU? Both? I know the gist of each, but not the difference. And do free images of this sort get uploaded here or somewhere else? --Masamage 04:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image copyright? 

message: Are there any pages here that need extensive spell checks? If one does I will be happy to go through and correct them. trainra 07:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there was a list, someone probably already got to it. It'd probably be most worthwhile if you went to random articles and formatted them according to WP:MOS. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 08:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure what, if any assistance you're using but you're doing a good job trainra. If I remember correctly, Rurouni Kenshin had a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes, though someone may have fixed that by now. --Squilibob 10:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intensive Spellcheck 

message: There is an online TV show produced by 15 year established industry production company. I feel it should be listed as a source on the anime article. The name of the show is AnimeTV.  I would like to cite it as a reference source for anime. 
--GroovyGal 14:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide a link to the site. Also, what information are you wanting to use it to cite?--SeizureDog 04:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on his edit history, he appears to be just a spammer. --Farix (Talk) 14:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? It just appears that he likes AnimeTV is all. He may have a personal investment in said site, but he doesn't seem like a spammer to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SeizureDog (talk • contribs) 14:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is that his edits have been solely about AnimeTV or promoting AnimeTV on Wikipedia. Whether he is directly connected or an overenthusiastic fan, it is still spamming. --Farix (Talk) 17:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It still seems a little rude to call him a spammer when he has so few edits. Hell, he's only "spammed" one other article that wasn't AnimeTV so far.--SeizureDog 19:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anime Review Show 

message: See this image. It shows the cast of Genshiken, and they appear to all be cosplaying. The problem is, I can't figure out as what. The only one I can figure out is Kuchiki as Lupin III but the rest I have no clue. The problem is that most of them look so damn normal. If Madarame hadn't been so completely out of character with his ghetto look, I probably wouldn't have even noticed. So anyways, a little help here?--SeizureDog 11:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, now that I stare at it, even the Lupin reference might be wrong. I thought that yellow purse was he's yellow tie, and Lupin doesn't seem to wear a hat ever. He's also, for some reason, wearing a scarf. Ugh, stupid thing. Still, the way Madarame is depicted makes me certain that it's a reference to something. I just have no idea what.--SeizureDog 12:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could they be imitating styles rather than specific characters? Because I don't recognize them either. --Masamage 16:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty damn sure they'd be spoofing something in particular, as there are some super vague references made in that series. Such as the December When There Is No Angel doujinshi visable in the bottom-left corner of the background in this screenshot. Obviously, you have to be insanely otaku to catch some of these (I'm amazed I spotted that one), and it's especially hard for us non-Japanese to get them. --SeizureDog 04:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help indentify these anime/manga references? 

message: It seemed the Japanese Wiki dispute about whether Detective Conan has plagiarized some other work has spread to the English Wikipedia; See Talk:Case Closed#Vandalism?. The main issue is, this, and other several talk threads surrounding this issue (mainly on User talk:1523) are mainly in Japanese, hence me, as a non-Japanese editor, cannot fully participate in the dispute (I plan to have a RfC on this issue.). I would like some J/E translations of the discussions here, thanks!--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 02:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read through all that stuff, so I suppose I should say something. Most of it is really just not worth translating -- bickering back and forth over semantics. The Japanese page on the Picasso-kun novels is the most informative summary of the issue, but frankly, the entire thing doesn't seem worth including. Funazaki grumbled a little, but showed no inclination to take the issue to court, and the similarities he described are all extremely common motifs in manga. As it stands now, I don't see how it's notable. Doceirias 02:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But are there any WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA issues? --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 10:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it's worth mentioning briefly (perhaps 1-2 sentences at most), but that's all the mention it needs. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help about Content Dispute arguments made in Japanese 

message: I've decided to borrow some experience from the Russian WikiProject Anime and made a single template to display uniform links to five most commonly linked web-sites in the anime articles. The thing is called  and it intends to replace the previously manual addition of external links. Code and documentation improvement suggestions are welcome (please, post them on the template talk page). :) --Koveras ☭ 15:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad idea. That's potentially way too many somewhat pointless external links -- see WP:EL ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 15:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think they're pointless, ANN for instance is often a good reference; but still I don't like the idea very much. Generally the same article covers manga, anime, OVA, and much more, so while some of the links would be covered by the template, the others would have to be added manually anyway. Take Rurouni Kenshin#External links as an example; 3 out of 6 links could be managed by the template, but the two additional links to ANN would be left outside of it. --Εξαίρετος (msg) 15:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Formatted the RK links with the template. AFAIK the only large English web-site that broadly covers manga is ANN, so there is not sense in having an extra template for it as long as we have . Oh, and to my knowledge, the number of pointless links in RK article hasn't increased any. ;) --Koveras ☭ 16:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I noticed User:Beyond silence has found us a great free use image, :Image:Manga emotions.jpg. Anyone up for making one with English labels? I might be able to do it myself if I have time before work today, but I thought I would mention it here anyways just to let people know we have another great free-use image. -- Ned Scott 15:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't speak German either, but it seems quite easy. Clockwise from top-left: neutral, euphoric, happy, sad, perplex, pouting, disappointed, angry. Although the pouting one looks angry too, and the angry one looks just serious to me. --Εξαίρετος (msg) 15:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Zufrieden" is more like "content" than "happy" but in this case, it's no big difference. :) --Koveras ☭ 19:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. Dictionary gives me "content" for that one, and nothing at all for "schmollend". --Masamage 19:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Just thought to check, and wikt:pout confirms this, schmollen is listed as a German synonym. --tjstrf talk 20:58, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: * Done. English version is now at :Image:Manga emotions-EN.jpg. --tjstrf talk 00:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why didn't you just upload it over the original version? --Farix (Talk) 01:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Germans are people to. It's a commons image, not just for en.wiki, so people on other projects like de.wiki may be using it where German would make more sense than English would. de.wiki has some asinine "no fair use images, AT ALL" policy, so they need all the free illustrations they can get. --tjstrf talk 01:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free use emotions image 

message: Just a quick question about the Selected Series on the main page of the Anime and Manga Portal. I apologise if it has already been answered before.
Who chooses the Selected Series? Under the link "More Selected Series," am I allowed to choose a series for, say, Week 20? Or is that decided elsewhere? And by whom?
Thanks. --Mintpie 03:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It use to be whatever was the AMCOTW the previous week. But with the abandonment of the AMCOTW, we haven't set up a formal selection process. I would suggest that we create a nomination page where we can vote as to which article will be the "Selected series" and "Selected biography" each week. We really shouldn't be having people putting in articles without oversight just because WP:THEYLIKEIT. --Farix (Talk) 11:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected Series 

message: If anyone feels like doing an anime-related review, Ami Mizuno has been a good article candidate for nearly three weeks. --Masamage 22:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And now it is a good article!  :D  Geez that GA queue's long.  Next one up is .hack//Sign. -Malkinann 02:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waiting on GAC 

message: Hey where do I go to join the WikiProject Anime and Manga, as I love anime and manga, and  would like to help aid in wikipedia's side of anime and manga. 
Thanks - Cocopopz2005 03:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add yourself to the category (

) or just use the userbox. --tjstrf talk 03:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Joining