Talk:The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands

message: This page needs more synopsis material
:Beware of putting too much plot and not enough notability, review, awards etc material. Otherwise this will become fancruft. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One theory I have is that the Beams, the Guardians, and the Tower were created by branches of N.C. Positronics as a combined venture to hold the world together after, or while, society wreaked havoc with nature.  The beams, however, do more than just hold Roland's world together, they extend throughout ALL worlds.  Therefore, it is more plausable that the beams were created so that there would be a point at which they would all cross that would lead to all other worlds.  I believe that the Great Old Ones used the Dark Tower to leave Roland's world after doing whatever it is that caused the Waste Lands and the mutations in so many creatures.  The Great Old Ones left the Dark Tower standing either so that they could use it to continue to travel to other worlds, or because they were in such a hurry to leave Roland's World.  The Great Old Ones probably did not build the Dark Tower for the purpose of leaving Roland's World, but made a B-line for it when the shit hit the fan.  The Tower is the lynchpin of all worlds/universes, connecting them together--yet keeping them separate from one another.
DJ Clayworth 17:00, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: It's pretty much implied that the Tower and the Beams existed long before Northern Positronics. They weren't created by technology or magic, they were created along with Mid World itself when it rose from the primordial Chaos. While the Tower exists in *ALL* worlds in some form or another, the Beams *ONLY* exist in Mid World. The Great Old Ones were mainly technicians who found portals between worlds and tried to support and strengthen the Beams which existed since long before the Great Old Ones came around. --2003:71:4F4B:6332:5DB9:6E6A:B4D1:170 (talk) 01:11, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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message: I moved the section on "The God Drums" to the article about Lud. I hope I didn't break any rules in doing so. - DynSkeet 08:18, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The God Drums" 

message: I changed the real name of the wizard into "Man in Black". Simply because his real name is not mentioned in the series yet, and there is no need to add information of the kind that still lays in the future for those who havn't read the other books. I also changed some information that was wrong. 193.217.196.245 21:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: It should be relevant and notable for the article that the world that Jake is drawn from is not ours. Jake is drawn from New York in 1977, and shortly before it happens, we learn that it was just before Eddie's brother Henry went to the army. We know from the previous book The Drawing of the Three that Henry was sent to Vietnam and thus returned traumatized, which means that in Jake's (and Eddie's) world, the Vietnam war is still going on under Carter, when in ours it ended unter Ford (see Fall of Saigon), two years prior to the drawing of Jake. It's in book four, Wizard and Glass, that Sai King openly introduces the idea of many worlds even just slightly deviating from each other to the universe (or rather multiverse) of the Dark Tower series, when Jake and Eddie come upon a car plate with the name of a Kansas sports team which doesn't exist in their world. --2003:71:4E48:5265:C95E:5249:221F:2893 (talk) 23:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henry and Vietnam