Talk:IQ and the Wealth of Nations

message: user:greyfell Could you please link to the discussion where Mankind Quarterly is deemed unreliable? 2600:1012:B06D:B5D5:1A6:42B5:C488:100A (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mankind Quarterly 

message: I’ve noticed that some editors have been removing large blocks of information from the article without discussing first.  In a potentially contentious article like this one, I would ask that the pending deletion at least be discussed in TALK before removing (BLP violations not withstanding).  Any objections to this? Starcader (talk) 23:22, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Mankind Quarterly is absolutely not a reliable source, and Emil Kirkegaard is not a recognized expert in anything (and has also been banned from Wikipedia). This is all WP:FRINGE. There is nothing else that needs to be said, but take it to WP:RSN if you want to waste more people's time. Grayfell (talk) 00:18, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you please link to the discussion where Mankind Quarterly is found to be unreliable?  Until then, the text should not have been reverted. 2600:1012:B06D:B5D5:1A6:42B5:C488:100A (talk) 00:37, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are past discussions on WP:RSN.  It's been a long time, so we could start a new discussion there if you wanted, but I don't think you'd convince anyone it can be used for things like this. --Aquillion (talk) 03:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you user: Aquillion Starcader (talk) 03:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerns about wholesale deletion of text without discussion  

message: This graph is patiently WP:SYNTH; it combines two separate data sources (IQ by country from worlddata.info, and GDP per capita from the IMF) in a way that leads the reader to a conclusion, outright describing the combination as just the synthesis made by a single editor. We cannot use that sort of thing in articles.  EDIT:  Also, I'm not sure that worlddata.info passes WP:RS; it appears to just be someone's personal website.  Reading their description on here for the IQ data, though, they're using the list of estimated IQs from the book, which we're not allowed to reproduce here - I don't think putting it in graph form (synthesized with GDP) gets around the copyright issue. --Aquillion (talk) 03:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  IQ and GDP per capita graph 

message: Pick another card, because this one is absolute rubbish!
Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen used IQ tests of children aged between 13 and 16 years old from 1952. Very reputable both of them. Later they had to correct their data.
Unfortunately, this information has already been spread by equally dubious authors in several books, for whatever reason. Now is the Average iq for Croatia 99.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229401257_National_IQs_calculated_and_validated_for_108_nations 
	
Many of the most intelligent people in the world come from Croatia and you should accept that!
Three Croatians on the list of the smartest people alive today.
https://www.croatiaweek.com/3-croatians-make-30-smartest-people-alive-today-list/
The World Genius Directory Geniuses 
http://psiq.org/home.html
At least 7 Croats are among the 200 most intelligent people in the world.
IQ Score: 192, 183, 180, 174, 163, 160, 151 
Approximately 7 from Germany - 182 He is Turk not even a German, 165, 158, 156, 156, 153, 147
Approximatly 5 from France - 162, 158, 154, 150, 141
Approximatly 7 from the United Kingdom - 171, 167, 163, 153, 148, 144, 135
Approximatly 38 from Japan
Approximatly 30 from China 
Approximatly 14 from Korea
Approximatly 21 from Italy
Four Croats have a higher IQ than the highest IQ-Score for Germany (182 is a Turk) and the United Kingdom and even five Croats have a higher IQ than the highest IQ-Score for France.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.25.6.141 (talk) 12:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Croatia 

message: The contents of this page are not nearly extensive enough to suffice for this redirect. Adding a list of countries by IQ would clutter this page, so removing the redirect is justified.  Oro Temp (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "List of nations by IQ" should not redirect here