Talk:Mathematics education

message: This page is pretty rampant with non-NPOV sentiments, isn't it?
-Chinju
Maybe.  Why don't you try to fix it? :P wshun 21:39, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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message: I propose that the orphaned article Mathematics education in Australia be merged into this one, perhaps in a section highlighting mathematics education in various countries around the world. I don't feel the other article deserves its own place (the orphan status should be evidence enough of that). --JStalk 19:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. While such a section in this article would be an excellent addition, it would take a lot of research to write intelligently, and I'm not sure that a broad comparison should include even the scant amount of detail found at Mathematics education in Australia. I created that article as an outlet for those students who feel compelled to write Wikipedia articles on Applicable mathematics, Maths X, and what have you. You're welcome to AfD the poor thing; I'll probably vote weak keep without much conviction! Melchoir 19:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Weren't there articles on Maths A, Maths B etc. a few days ago?  Wouldn't it be more appropriate to merge their content into Mathematics education in Australia (which would then be long enough to justify its independent existence)?  —Blotwell 19:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, they were deleted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maths A. It was charged that they were inaccurate and/or promotional, so I'm not sure that their content should have been merged. Melchoir 19:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is no longer about Mathematics education I'm going to reply on "in Australia"'s talk page. --JStalk 19:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mathematics education in Australia 

message: There were chunks of material about controversies in modern U.S. mathematics education scatterd throughout the article. This broke up the flow of the article and made it difficult to read. I have re-arranged the article to collect all the material about modern U.S. mathematics education into one section. I did not attempt to edit any of this material - I have just done a cut-and-paste job. It would be a good idea if someone edited this section to remove duplication and make it more NPOV - but please keep it all together in one place. Gandalf61 11:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the section contains no  general insterest for "Mathematics education", than the material should be moved to a US specific article.--SummerWithMorons 12:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I moved the new US page to Mathematics education in the United States to conform to page title conventions. Gandalf61 (talk) 10:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Collected U.S. material into one section

message: The comment about van Hiele Levels was completely erroneous, so I removed it. The Van Hiele model only applies to geometry and is NOT age-dependent.
Seberle 16:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Van Hiele 

message: I think it should be written that some countries are far behind others when it comes to level of math. Just yesterday I found out a friend of mine who left Israel and went to Singapore several years ago, started learning in tenth grade material which is learned in Israel only in the university. And he's not attending a geniuses' school (it's a private one, but it works according to some international standard). There is a lad from China who's learning with me in the same math class (5 units) material he learned in China when he was a ninth grader (we're now 11th graders). Siúnrá (talk) 10:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between countries 

message: Please visit Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Easy as pi? to see a discussion about making mathematics articles more accessible to a general readership.
:-- Wavelength (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Wavelength (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making mathematics articles more accessible to a general readership 

message: I would appreciate some help improving the article and perhaps including a mention at this page.  Katzmik (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[David O. Tall]] 

message: Okay, I feel pretty silly--I didn't even see that Polya was already listed under Mathematics Educators.  Sorry!
I was thinking about including Mary P. Dolciani in the Mathematics Educators list.  Any objections or comments? Regards, CinchBug | Talk 21:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary P. Dolciani 

message: Re: Dialectric's comment, I've attempted to change all mentions of "math" to "mathematics," which does seem to help the flow.  Therealcaro (talk) 07:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Math vs. Mathematics 

message: This description does not fit my understanding of classical education. The classical education link links to Medieval university.  I'd like to see more sources.Cliff (talk) 22:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice that you tagged the sentence "the teaching of mathematics within the classical education syllabus of the Middle Ages, which was typically based on Euclid's Elements taught as a paradigm of deductive reasoning". Which part do you think is dubious - is it the claim that Euclid's Elements was part of the classical education syllabus (specifically, part of the quadrivium) or the claim that it was tuaght as a paradigm of deductive reasoning ? Gandalf61 (talk) 16:13, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I question the description of classical education as using a syllabus from the middle ages. Cliff (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What if we change it to "the teaching of mathematics within the quadrivium education syllabus of the Middle Ages ..." - would that be better ? Gandalf61 (talk) 16:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure I understand either. Cliff, are you protesting the confusion between the modern classical education movement and the Medieval university? Are you protesting the existence of a Medieval syllabus in the modern sense? Are you doubting the status of the quadrivium in the Middle Ages? --seberle (talk) 17:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I understand what was meant by the passage, I've removed the dubious tag. The passage does not, in my opinion, give a clear description of what is meant by a classical mathematics education. Seberle, I do think that we should work toward more distinction between classical education,  as understood in its modern usage, and the Medieval University. Do any object to changing the term syllabus to Curriculum? Cliff (talk) 18:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The term "curriculum" would probably be an improvement over "syllabus". I think much of the confusion is connected to the Classical education movement article which confuses the modern movement with Medieval university. (I have noted my concerns on that talk page.) Perhaps in this article we could reword the sentence to make clear which system we are referring to? Thanks for helping clarify this, Cliff. --seberle (talk) 16:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical education 

message: Multiplication and Repeated Addition is currently a long, mostly unreferenced essay about methodology in maths education. Any objection to a content merge to this article? Scopecreep (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I never knew the article existed. There's a little bit about this in the lead of Multiplication as well, plus the problem of which side is the multiplier. There were some heated debates on the talk page on that! There may be something that can be merged into that article as well or if it isn't merged a link to the debate at multiplication. Dmcq (talk) 12:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplication and Repeated Addition  

message: Some people(students) have genuine difficulties in understanding and grasping mathematics than other theoretical subjects like biology and chemistry. They are inherently weak in quick logical thinking and grasping abstract concepts of maths.You can see some people can do calculations quickly in mind and some have hard time doing the same.It seems to me as one of the reasons why some people dislike or fear maths. Where is this point addressed in the article?. I think this point should be addressed if not already present in the article.
:Under the "Mathematical Difficulties" header in the "See also" section, there are links to Wikipedia articles on these subjects. Feel free to add a section in this article on this important topic. --seberle (talk) 20:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Difficulties in learning mathematics

message: for one thing, it's the only section with subsections in the present article; your thoughts? Fgnievinski (talk) 22:53, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: My opinion is that there is not enough substance to the research section to make a separate article. We should probably even consolidate a bit to eliminate the subsections. I hope someday there will be more substance, but nothing much has been done with it for a quite a while. --seberle (talk) 16:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  split Mathematics education research section into its own article 

message: A Manual tag was added to the research section. Since many research findings are about what works in teaching, it is difficult to see how to report on such research without reporting on what research has found to work. Please discuss reasons for this tag. I don't see what to fix. seberle (talk) 16:49, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manual tag 

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message: However so Maths is that it makes Science could precise by when it heads up. Its that Mathematics gives the Metrics, not the fact of Actuals.
Its closer to rational behavior of some precision even when Maths Probabilistic Monotony defined by, terms & distribution, and its integration/summation. Bit of Intro required like Binomial Expansion, Polynomial Expansion over our Linear Algebra which could convulse its heads on.
How does our computer world makes Science not by Mathematics rather by clear abstraction study and still tries to advance its ability on Norms which is observed, however it could differ when Astronomy Metrics slightly goes on in different settings, so all got slightly varies by rather. Kind of Mathematics Education why it is important always needs to be rephrased for one who reads in a just a simple grasp.
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How is the topic of standards in the field of mathematics education included in the lead of the article? Eglegg2019 (talk) 22:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards 

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message: Hello,
I’m curious why the leading sentence of this page denotes how the phrase “math education” is labeled in Europe. This is a Eurocentric element, considering math education occurs all over the world, and each geographical region may have a respective term for the subject. Aside from a biased viewpoint, these points should not be in the lead sentence due to cluttering (see
MOS:LEADCLUTTER). Zyploc (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: For the countries where the term used is a direct translation of "mathematical education", this is certainly not useful to provide such a translation. Here the European term is far from the English one. So many people who have encountered the two terms may be confused by the fact that they refer to the same thing. This is true for people originated from anywhere in the world, even for American and Chinese ones. D.Lazard (talk) 21:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I am finding this short conversation difficult to follow Where is "Here"? HiLo48 (talk) 23:33, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Here means "in this Wikipedia article" or "in this context". The point is, the subject commonly in America called mathematics education or just math education, is also known by such names mathematical pedagogy or the didactics of mathematics in other parts of the world. –jacobolus (t) 23:51, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Certainly, I appreciate your input and viewpoint. Perhaps it would be best to conserve the alternative terminologies, but place them in a subsequent sentence or a later section? I have no personal stake in this matter; rather I'd like for the article's style to be as inclusive as possible. Zyploc (talk) 02:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have specific other synonyms for this which are reflective of reliable sources, feel free to add those. The point of including synonyms in Wikipedia articles is to help people with different backgrounds understand what the topic is supposed to be about, not to promote particular terminology. –jacobolus (t) 04:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary Eurocentrism