Talk:Artemis Entreri

message: So, I adjusted the section of his history detailing Promise of the Witch King. It started out as just fixing up a few grammer/spelling mistakes, but I soon found myself explaining the book in detail.  However, even though I read it recently, I can't remember some things. 
What was the name of the corrupt noblewoman who traveled with the party?  The Half-Orc wizardess, her lover, and the village they hailed from?  What was the name of the "Paladin King" of Damara and the secret criminal organization trying to unseat them?  I'll pull the book out and adjust the article with more details later, unless someone does it first. -207.224.22.101
:I have the book beside me right now, but I am not in a position to edit. Incidentally, is it just me, or has Charon's Claw's ability to cause wounds to fester virtually disappeared by that book? I saw no mention of it, which is odd given that Entreri had to be careful even of getting nicked by the sword in Servant of the Shard. Maybe it was somehow tied into the glove? *wry grin* Or it could be Salvatore either forgot, or tried to quietly downplay the ability for fear that it would be too powerful. As a side note, the knight was Ellery with a bunch of extra last names. The wizardess was Arrayan and her lover was Olgerkhan off the top of my head. The name of the paladin king was "Dragonsbane". *wry grin* Sad that such things stick in my head like that. And I think it was the Citadel of Assassins.
:Incidentally, if you find the events of the book go over a paragraph, I suggest creating a seperate article for the book (I know anonymous users can't start articles, but signing up takes about 30 seconds and requires very little personal information) and linking it, only providing a brief summary for the Entreri article. -Fuzzy 20:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Promise of the Witch King

message: It seems like there's plenty of information here to make a very good article but it just needs organising a bit more. I've tried to rework the intro a bit to make it sound more encyclopedic. The Hisory/Bio section is good but as its reasonably long it might be a good idea to add subheadings to show his involvement in each of the books that he appears, or failing that, subsections like "Early life", "Meeting Drizzt", then later stuff with Jarlaxle etc, the latter might be more appropriate. If anyone knows enough about this please do, otherwise I'll try and find out enough to do it myself.
It's also a good point to remember that this is an article on a fictional character, not a source of information for D&D players, so just wondered what other people thought on the rather large sections talking about his magic items. How much do they add to the understanding of the character? They do mention some useful bits but im not sure about the rather large large quote from servand of the shard. What do other people think? -- Lewis 00:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tasks for this article

message: For reasons explained above. --Saramus 08:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a point; he killed his supposed uncle ant let his supposed father live and until now it’s kinda known that the high priest from memnon is his father when he rapped his mother when she was young.now I don’t think that being rightfully just doesn’t make him evil. 190.87.195.62 (talk) 17:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Now that I can't argue. Lawful Evil it is! (Also, it makes sense, him being the antithesis to Drizzt, who is CG). Turlo Lomon 16:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I reviewed the talk page, and it appears my comments were shifted down from where they were originally a reply. They are very out of context. I have to yield to other contributers' opinions on the recent books because I haven't been able to get caught up on my reading yet. My originaly post stated TN. An event in a book I haven't read pointed out this was incorrect, so I yielded to that person's analysis until I had a chance to read the book. I'll update my opinion when I get caught up. Turlo Lomon 12:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Hall of Heroes has Artemis' alignment as Neutral Evil.  The Forgotten Realms Campaign Book lists it as Lawful Evil.  Given that between these two publications, Artemis really didn't change his personality in the book, it appears that even the game mechanics are not sure on this subject. So, here is a proposal. Lawful Evil with Neutral Tendencies.  Turlo Lomon 07:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. His official alignment is *NOT* for us fans to decide. It is official, thus must for the Wizard of the Coast to say. Although some may object that LE/NE is not consistent with his desciptions in the later novel, but it is just that unless WotC later changed Entreri's alighment. However these issues can be a new section such as fan reaction in the article though. --Cynehelm 11:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given what you said, going by the most recent publication with him stated, LE is correct, even if 5 years old. We are really in need of updated stat blocks for both him and Drizzt. Turlo Lomon 08:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed alignment to Lawful Evil 

message: Added Rogue per the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and put Shade in parenthesis since it's unclear what type of shade class he is or if he can be considered to have a shade class at all (doubt he's a prestige class shadowdancer). --Saramus 09:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't realize there was a "Shade" class in the FRCS.  If Entreri becomes more of a shade than he is now, he'll become extremely powerful. --Saramus 22:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Drizzt is really going to be in for a few surprises when they meet next, eh?--68.0.144.83 10:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modified Enteri's class 

message: Ok, first the quote.
:*Entreri: "You are lucky you did not strike him blind."Jarlaxle: "Wouldn't have been the first time."</br>Entreri: "Stunning."</br>**(In reference to a halfling's shocked reaction after casting a detect magic spell and scanning Jarlaxle.)
I feel this quote should be removed from Artemis' entry. Yes, it is a quote by Artemis, but it doesn't give an example of his character or personality. It explains quite a lot about Jaraxle, and would be more appropriate in his entry. Opinions?  Turlo Lomon 16:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote Removal 

message: I don't want to get into an edit war, so I am bring it here. Currently, there is an issue with Psionicist vs. Psion in history. Psionicist was the proper name under 2nd edition AD&D.  Under 3.0 and 3.5 D&D, the name was retroactively changed to psion. Shouldn't the article reflect the correct name under current publications? Turlo Lomon 08:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There already is a Psion article. In fact, Psionicist redirects to it. None of it my doing, mind you. Turlo Lomon 08:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: We have already set a precendent of going by the written rules over the novels, specifically his alignment. I am not dead set on keeping it one way or another, but your words specifically stated we had to use the official alignment. Is using the official class name not the same? Turlo Lomon 08:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Psion or Psionicist?

message: There's a mistake under the combat/tactics subheading. It says that Entreri will often try to insult and thus enrage his opponents, but in Road of the Patriarch it says that he dislikes speaking to his opponents in battle. The only reason he did it then was to stall them from attacking him while his leg was still partly frozen.71.127.18.49 21:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combat/Tactics 

message: does anyone know of any future books R.A Salvatore had planned for Entreri??? i will miss him....also what about Jarlaxle???? it would be awesome if he would make a whole branch dedicated to the opportunistic drow...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.185.148 (talk) 00:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future books? 

message: Enterei hates wererats. it has been mentioned countless times in The Silent Blade and Sevant of the Shard. why hasn't this been mentioned anywhere?12.201.69.71 00:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not particularly noteworthy. He hates a lot of things, and I don't think hating wererats is something that would be uncommon in Faerûn.➳ Quin 03:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It ties in to the comparison between him and Drizzt - Drizzt hates giants, which is understandable because he is a ranger and the ranger class has a racial enemy. By giving Entreri a racial enemy as well, Salvatore blends the line between thief and ranger. Put in this context, it actually was a fairly revealing character trait. Unfortunately I don't think I have a source for this off the top of my head. Coanda-1910 (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you are getting at, but can wererats even be considered a race? Rats are not a race, per se, in the same manner that giants are. I think you are overthinking this a bit.  I would go with Quinsareth.  Entreri has a myriad dislikes, which maybe warrant a sentence long list, but I don't see why wererats require special treatment.FareedMcLure (talk) 17:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wererats 

message: I am new to wikipedia and I have never edited it and cannot figure out how to do it properly.  Can somebody please add this to this article's "articles for deletion" link?  When I found that Artemis Entreri was slated for deletion, I could not believe it.  As an R.A. Salvatore fan, who started reading when the Crystal Shard first came out 20 years ago, I am totally biased.  However, the 3 arguments for deletion are based upon Entreri "not being a notable character," but here is the most important reason the entry should NOT be deleted.
- Of the 15 Drizzt Do'Urden series books from Crystal Shard to Road of the Patriarch, Entreri has been a major character (in nearly ever chapter, plays a central role, the story would be incomplete without his character, etc.) in 8 of them.  He, along with Jarlaxle, were the MAIN characters in 3 of those, Servant of the Shard, Promise of the Witch-King, and Road of the Patriarch, with no appearance by Drizzt at all.  R. A. Salvatore himself wrote those books because he obviously felt they were interesting enough to deserve a mini-series all to themselves.
:It just appears that some people want to leave :Category:Forgotten Realms characters empty.Garret Beaumain (talk) 15:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion from Wikipedia? NO 

message: There's been some comfirmation as to whether there might be any books about Entreri after Road of the Patriarch. Here's the link-->.
Is this relavant enough to go in the article? -Aster- 12.208.135.61 (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future books (2) 

message: Also, should we put in something about which version of D&D Entreri was created in? Was it first or second AD&D? 68.55.33.112 (talk) 22:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Second edition was first published stats I believe.  Most likely Heroes Lorebook (same as Drizzt), but I am not positive on Artemis. Turlo Lomon (talk) 15:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AD&D Background? 

message: I don't think you can PROD an article that was previously Kept at AFD. Rather than trying to delete it though, if it must go then why not try merging it into an appropriate article such as List of Forgotten Realms characters, Drizzt Do'Urden, The Icewind Dale Trilogy, or some other more appropriate destination? BOZ (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PROD? 

message: One thing sorely lacking, is an explanation for Salvatore’s reasons for giving him the name he has. Artemis, Zeus’ daughter and twin-sister of Apollo(n), goddess of wild animals, hunting and virginity (Jane F. Gardner, Roman Myths, The British Museum Press (1993), p. 13) has given him his first name, while Entreri, I do not know, but I think I read some time, a long time ago, that it has something to do with ancient mythology as well.
CannedMan (talk) 09:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find that source, it would be a very interesting addition to the article. :) 129.33.19.254 (talk) 14:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entreri’s name’s origin