Talk:Hausa people

message: Hello everyone. I am Ppdallo and new to Wikipedia editing. I discovered that the information presented about Hausa people on this page is woefully inadequate and in many respect biased to say the least. 
As a result I intend to make major edits with full and verifiable references and would like any like minded Wikipedian to join me in straightening out the records and make Wikipedia a better reservoir of correct info. Any one with any suggestions and or ideas is welcome, too.
Cheers Ppdallo (talk) 21:37, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for major edit on “Hausa People” 

message: Ppdallo, please discuss your proposed changes to the article here, rather than just adding them in regardless of whether others are reverting you or not.
As a starter, Wikipedia - or more specifically a Wikipedia article - cannot be used to support a claim in another article in Wikipedia.  If you want to do this, you should look in the article itself and extract the source you wish to use and re-insert it into the article you are trying to improve.  You can't just say "Look at the article" - you have to provide the data requested.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The source https://www.ethnologue.com/language/hau doesn't support the claim that "the second most widely spoken language after Arabic in the Afroasiatic family of languages".  It give numbers regarding how many poeple speak it, but does not corroborate that these numbers make it number two.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:35, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  recent edits 

message: Hi Ppdallo, on the city of Ilorin, it is inconceivable that one would try to relate two ethnicities based on cohabitation during a part of a century. White and Black South Africans are not ethnically related, so are White and Black Americans. Furthermore, West Africa is patrilineal and there is no confusion of fusion where a third ethnicity has not resulted from anecdotal instances of intermarriage. Yorubas and Igbos have intermarried more and their intermarriage has not been relegated to a city or municipality. -Oluwatalisman (talk) 16:21, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: No Yoruba Relation

message: I think it would not be great to remove the Joshua's Project projections from Wikipedia as I feel that there are really not a lot of reliable sources that care to give even the slightest of information on African ethnic groups, so why not preserve the few that do? As for me, I would be contributing very little to ethnic groups moving forward because I don't really take the CIA's projections on Nigeria's ethnic groups seriously. Firstly, there has only been one census in Nigeria over the past 25 years, and the last one, which was in 2006 only gave a breakdown of males and females, so I don't understand where the CIA got it's projections from. Secondly, as a Nigerian, saying the Hausa alone make up 30% of the Nigerian population while the other two major ethnic groups (the Igbo and the Yoruba) only share 15% each is pure ignorance and it shows the CIA knows absolutely nothing about Nigeria. The Yoruba and the Igbo are just as large as the Hausa if not larger. The Hausa are indigenous to North Western Nigeria, along with over 80 other ethnic groups, and they also have a significant population in the North East, along with another 50-100 ethnic groups, there are also little or no indigenous Hausa population in the North Central part of the country so except the CIA is counting these 150+ northern minority groups as Hausa then there is absolutely no way the Hausa are as large as the Yoruba and Igbo people combined. Incase you don't know, the Yoruba and Igbo people boasts of completely homogeneous populations in the Western and Eastern part of the country respectively, bear in mind that these sections of the country are the most densely populated compared to the mostly sparsely population North. Don't forget that the Yoruba are also one of the largest ethnic groups in North Central Nigeria just like the Igbo are also one of the largest in Southern Nigeria. So that being said, we actually don't know the exact percentages of Nigeria's largest ethnic groups, but the Hausa population is definitely overly exaggerated, if you live outside Nigeria, you can also do a consensus of Nigerians if you know any and I promise you that none of them would be Hausa. Da5ft9 (talk) 15:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes we know tribe big, tribe very big. You don’t have another source Yoruba are 40-50 million Igbo about 40 million Hausa are around 65-69 million. Link another source. WikiFan45TY (talk) 12:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

text: Furthermore looking at a population density map, the Hausa width in territory spans much of the South. 67-69 million is a good estimate for them in Nigeria. WikiFan45TY (talk) 17:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

text: The user who was adding this, User:Da5ft9, has since been blocked. They were unilaterally reducing population estimates on this and other articles because they consider the numbers for some regions in the CIA World Factbook to be "a bit exaggerated". Perhaps so, but as you say updating the number without changing the source makes no sense, and we obviously can't accept a user's preferred personal estimate without some kind of source for the number that they've come up with. --Belbury (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exaggerated population by the CIA Factbook 

message: = "69252822.9” not 56 million you can’t link a source and then give different information from what is linked it’s inconsistent and unreliable. WikiFan45TY (talk) 13:00, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The user who was adding this, User:Da5ft9, has since been blocked. They were unilaterally reducing population estimates on this and other articles because they consider the numbers for some regions in the CIA World Factbook to be "a bit exaggerated". Perhaps so, but as you say updating the number without changing the source makes no sense, and we obviously can't accept a user's preferred personal estimate without some kind of source for the number that they've come up with. --Belbury (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  30% of 230 million.  

message: The CIA Factbook, Census and several other sources have them at about 30% of Nigeria, so around 67-69 million.  https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ni WikiFan45TY (talk) 03:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: Both the CIA world factbook and Census has Hausa at 30% of 230,000,000 million which equals around 69,200,000. And multiple estimates have them reaching around 3,000,000 in Sudan.  https://www.voaafrica.com/a/hausa-rise-up-in-sudan/6663433.html
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/nigeria/https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ni WikiFan45TY (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The link you provided for the population of hausa in Sudan is dead and doesn't work and there are no accurate estimates that place the real population of Hausa in Sudan. Given that Ethnologue reports about 80,000 native Hausa speakers in Sudan it wouldn't make sense for there to be 3 million Hausa in Sudan especially considering how the other source mentioned that they speak their own language rather than Arabic as a mother tongue. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hausa population