Talk:Irvington High School (Fremont, California)

message: Prior to 21March2006, this page was located at Irvington High School, now a dab page. The old history is located here, before the edit of User:J. Finkelstein. -- Jjjsixsix (t)/(c) @ 04:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cutnpaste Move

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:IHS.JPG

message: A lot of this page is just copy-pasted from other websites.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.199.76 (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow. 

message: Dataquest demographics for 2009 are up now.
http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/SchEnr.asp?TheName=Irvington&cSelect=IRVINGTON%5EHIGH--FREMONT%5EUNIFIED--0161176-0134270&cChoice=SchEnrEth&cYear=2008-09&cLevel=School&cTopic=Enrollment&myTimeFrame=S&submit1=Submit  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.94.76 (talk) 03:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  demographics 

message: The Section on the High Tech Militia seems to serve more as an advertisement than as an informational section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.44.77 (talk) 01:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertisement  

message: I just cut out a lot of this article, for a variety of reasons.  I'm sure that much of this was written by current or former school students, and I commend all of you for participating in Wikipedia.  Unfortunately, information that I removed can't be in he article.  There were two main problems:
#Much of the information was highly promotional in nature.  One of Wikipedia's core policies is WP:NPOV, which says that all encyclopedia articles must be neutral in nature.  It is perfectly acceptable to discuss features of Irvington's academics, awards the school or clubs have won, etc., but it is not acceptable to using glowing terms such as would be found in an advert for the school or even a school newspaper article.  Most of what I removed fell into this category.
#Some of what I took out was in danger of violating our policies on biographies of living people.  Even though this article is about the school, it did contain quite a bit of info about living people.  While all information in Wikipedia is supposed to backed up by reliable sources, this is particularly critical for anything about living people.  So, all of the information about the Campus Safety Officers and Phillip de Franco has to stay out unless it can be verified. 
Again, it's great for students to be involved in their school's page, and I want you all to continue to do so.  Just be sure that your edits meet our policies and guidelines.  If you have any questions, feel free to post them here; you can also ask me directly on my talk page.  Qwyrxian (talk) 04:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: One problem I'm seeing tonight is there's been a lot of vandalism, and because there's so much unsourced material in the article, it's hard to tell what should stay and what should go. If I'm deleting heavy-handedly, it's because there are dubious figures (average SAT score of 2400, for example) without a clearly sourced number to roll back to. —C.Fred (talk) 07:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Actually, thanks to Qwyrxian for getting the article reverted back to an apparently clean version. I didn't have to remove anything, but this administrator does have the article in his watchlist now. —C.Fred (talk) 07:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're an admin, please semi-protect the page; I've had the request up for about 2.5 hours with no response yet.  Qwyrxian (talk) 07:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks...I'm about to be away from WP for an hour or two, and I was worried I'd come back to hundreds of vandalism edits.  I definitely think this article can be improved--I'd love for someone from the school who does actually want this to be a good page to help provide some better sources so that we can be sure everything is accurate. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major trimming 

message: I hope my posts are facilitative to the quality of this article and to the standards of Wikipedia. I am but a novice in article editing, but I hope you will recognize my publishings as verifiable, objective, and constructive information. I apologize if any of my phrasing seems weighted as I understand there have been recent accounts of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.247.46.29 (talk) 07:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies, but no.  The information you added falls under the prohibitions of WP:NPOV.  Those additions were essentially promotional in nature.  I know that you are just trying to make this school (presumably yours?) seem like a good place, but Wikipedia requires that all articles be neutral in tone.  The school's goals and ideals are not appropriate for a neutral encyclopedia article. Furthermore, you can't make claims like "QUEST...is widely known across the Tri-City area" without providing reliable sources to support that very strong claim.  In your case, I can see that you are actually trying to "improve" the article (not vandalize it), but your edits still don't fit within our policies and guidelines.  I recommend taking a look at some of our Wikipedia:Five pillars, which is our most basic expression of our goals and way of writing as a good place to start.  You're also more than welcome to ask any questions here, and I will be happy to help.  Qwyrxian (talk) 09:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya unfortuenetly Qwyrxian is right about the NPOV, besides that you have done a good job though. Is it possible to find a picture of the school, it would probably be easier if you took a pic and uploaded it, then there would be no copy right issues.Millertime246 (talk) 01:47, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Trying to restore the integrity of this article