Talk:Zayed Center for Coordination and Follow-Up

message: When the primary focus of an article is an attack by the ADL, it has "POV edit" written all over it. I have re-written the article with a section on criticism for the ADL business. --H.K. 16:13, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Slim, you seem to be having a bit of a tantrum here. None of your ADL business was removed; I added a neutral section at the beginning of the article, so that it begins to resemble an NPOV article. Also, I made it clear that the ADL commentary about LaRouche does not refer to his speech at the Zayed Center, which is now properly linked to the article and available for your inspection, so that you can see that Zionists, Christian Zionists and so forth are nowhere mentioned in the speech. In fact, I might suggest that you actually read the current version of this Wikipedia article before reverting it. --H.K. 15:55, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: ADL as source

message: Herschelkrustofsky, your use of a white supremacist, neo-Nazi magazine and similar suspect sources as references shows you haven't yet got the message, so here again is Wikipedia policy. Please read it this time. Slim 19:42, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
Below are the principles and policies that all editors — including those editors, like yourself, who support or work for Lyndon LaRouche — must adhere to, with no exceptions. 
*Wikipedia:Verifiability
*Wikipedia:Cite sources
*Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
*Wikipedia:No original research
Regarding novel narratives involving a new synthesis of information:
"An article that makes no new low-level claims, but nonetheless synthesizes work in a non-standard way, is effectively original research that I think we ought not to publish. This comes up most often in history, where there is a tendency by some Wikipedians to produce novel narratives and historical interpretations with citation to primary sources to back up their interpretation of events. Even if their citations are accurate, Wikipedia's poorly equipped to judge whether their particular synthesis of the available information is a reasonable one," Jimbo Wales (WikiEN-l, Dec 6, 2004)
:I will respond to this (again) for the benefit of readers who have not visited Talk:Dennis King, which is where the issue of the "White supremacist article" came up. I cited a page from an organization (www.ex-iwp.org) of former members of the International Workers Party. It turns out that one such former member, Dan Friedman, wrote an article, which appears on the ex-iwp website, that was published in a magazine called National Alliance, which is completely unrelated to the White Supremacist group with the same name. It is published by the New Alliance Party of Lenora Fulani (who is African-American). The New Alliance Party appears to be an IWP front. --H.K. 13:33, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: White supremacist article

message: Would be nice to mention how a lot of the effort of the Center seemed to be devoted to redefining the word "Semitic", and developing an ideology of Semitism according to which Arabs were true Semites, while Jews were merely phoney fake imitation Semites. AnonMoos (talk) 07:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Semitism"

message: Since it was abolished 18 years ago, it may not seem notable in 2021, but when it existed it was a semi-notorious irritant well-known to those concerned with hatred of Jews... AnonMoos (talk) 00:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be notable; there is certainly linkrot and difficulty finding sources after 2 decades.  The current article is mostly sourced to their own site, the ADL, and LaRouche's media, which is why I am concerned. User:¾ (alt of power~enwiki, p, n) 21:51, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: LaRouche isn't (and shouldn't be) a source for anything about the center; LaRouche is a source for his own bigotry, in accordance with the "Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves" section of Wikipedia:Verifiability.  But the ADL is quite reputable in this particular area. AnonMoos (talk) 07:01, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability