Talk:Selective mutism

message: I think there's something missing from this sentence which mentions effective treatments i.e. "The effectiveness of current treatment methods, generally involving therapy and gentle and supportive introductions to social situations."
Maybe something about how successful or otherwise such approaches have proven to be? Can anyone help? Sadly, my own experience working this way with a selectively mute nearly-four-year-old has been unsuccessful in helping her begin to speak to anyone other than her mother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiriamT (talk • contribs) 05:43, 26 June 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something missing? 

message: Some details of treatments added, and links to other places where help is available.
Needs a little work on the main body still I think Codec 14:13, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions and Quality

message: I removed the POV tag from the Drug treatments section. No messages were left here as to why it was added, and no dispute is taking place. --W2bh (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  rm POV tag from drug treatments section 

message: I think it would be good to have some links for laws that help SM kids, and/or organizations that can help their parents.
Pachai (talk) 18:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal Help

message: Someone added a line in the description about remaining controversy over whether selective mutism is due to stubbornness.  I'm not saying that no reliable psychologists believe this - I know some do.  But the source is from 1988, which, in my opinion makes it invalid.  This wasn't identified as having to do with anxiety by 1988.  I don't want to force my opinion on everyone, and it's only one line, so I'll leave it for the moment.  But if this is going to stay, could someone please find a study since 1994 that supports it?  At least find an examples from recent times where a child actually refused to speak at school and/or an explanation of why preschoolers would do that.  Proof that treating it as stubbornness (giving punishments and rewards for talking or not) is actually successful would be a very good argument, since I've never heard that it works, or if it does, not anywhere near as well as treating it as anxiety does. --Elemarth (talk) 18:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy? 

message: Claiming that Selective Mutism "is a severe social anxiety disorder or social phobia" is simply not backed up by the recent scientific papers and articles on the subject. It is true taht SM can coexist with anxiety disorder and social phobia, but to claim it IS AD or SP, is strecthing things to far. I have therefore changed the wording. --KaldMigMads (talk) 19:44, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide links to or summarize the recent articles? I'd be very interested to know what they said. Though studies have shown that it's strongly correlated with SAD, you're right that it isn't really proven to be an anxiety disorder. I like your wording better, though I hope you won't mind that I edited it to "shyness or (often severe) social anxiety". That still allows a range but keeps in the SAD connection. --Elemarth (talk) 19:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first paragraph of this article is sloppy and inaccurate 

message: Refusal to speak as a disorder?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.27.223 (talk) 15:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Try reading the article, you'll find that SM has been extensively documented for several decades already and is in the official DSM. Sheesh, talk about a silly use of the "nominate for deletion" option... ☥ Xyzzy Avatar ☥ 05:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garbage article, nominate for deletion 

message: I noticed significant contradictions between the description of how SM kids are different from Autistic kids and later descriptions of SM kids -- bringing it up because I'm not remotely knowledgeable enough about Selective Mutism to know how to tackle it.
: "(Autistic kids show) repetitive behaviors...sensory integration difficulties... that set them apart from a child with selective mutism."
:"Some children with selective mutism may have sensory integration dysfunction (and) may have some auditory processing difficulties."
:"(speech phobic mutism) also involved ritualistic behaviors"
The section mentioning SM kids as sometimes having SID and APD (also extremely common among autistics) is current. While "speech phobic" was dropped as a subcategory, it's not made clear how much of the description still applies to selective mutism. 
Finally, there's one sentence in the autism/SM comparison section that comes across as ambiguous: 
:"Evaluation of children with these symptoms by a developmental pediatrician is critical for early intervention." 
It's unclear whether this refers to early intervention for mutism or autism. If it's autism, it's somewhat of a problematic statement since there's so much controversy, junk science, and studies (some more scientific than others) on both sides over what's helpful, neutral, and damaging for little kids on the spectrum. --☥ Xyzzy Avatar ☥ 06:40, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparisons with autistic spectrum - contradiction & ambiguity 

message: I think that many selective mutes are also HSPs, Highly Sensitive People. Many of the characteristics also apply to HSPs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.57.146.77 (talk) 22:17, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  The question is: What is the cause and what an effect (symptom)?? --MediScholar (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selective mute 

message: Hello everyone, I was diagnosed with Selective Mutism in childhood, some 20 years ago. However, I did not find the type of medication, I was used to take over one year. It was “Methylphenidate“, also known as “Ritalin®“. I would appreciate it, if one could add further information on that kind of treatment. Thank you in advance. --95.116.95.124 (talk) 09:34, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medication 

message: hi
  hello  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.176.175.180 (talk) 15:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mutism 

message: The section "In popular culture" currently lists three fictitious cases, and one real-word case (Greta Thunberg, citing herself for the fact). Though popular, Greta does not really fit the "Popular culture" heading. One could add a section, "Famous cases" or the like, or, considering we only have one "famous case", the heading "In popular culture" could be changed to... what?--Nø (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture 

message: I can say from my own experience of selective mutism; it can also have to deal with intimacy with other persons, as if there's a point where you're completely freely speaking with and even against them (which likely requires them having a large friendly presence in your life), whereas with more antagonization it's very likely to really build up "hatred" that can last for long time past its active time (e.g. an antagonized childhood peer later in your life).
And also silence in front of antagonists or strangers when in dialogue with other persons, whereas you'd enjoy noise (so you have the feeling the other party isn't listening to you directly) in those situations - contrary to "sensitivity to noise and crowds". --95.168.120.39 (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signs/symptoms - antagonization 

message: This seems like a rather loaded way of wording things. Also, while three sources are cited, one of them seems to just be quoting another one verbatim. I'll just combine both lists while transferring the citations, though I would prefer further review on them.
2803:4600:1116:12E7:7D25:B018:7F73:DFDD (talk) 06:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "On the positive side..." 

message: I.e. two articles both from a reputable source (Cleveland Clinic, an academic hospital), that seem to me in many ways the same thing.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/selective-mutism
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/grey-rock-method
Or is this "gray rocking" not officially recognised in medicine? Wallby (talk) 14:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How/Where is this different from grey rocking?