Talk:Spelling

message: The article needs better organisation although I am at a loss as to how to better organise it.
Capitalistroadster 19:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: National Geographic Channel has a filler item that shows that so long as the first and last letters of a word remain the same, the intermediate letters can be jumbled up and the meaning is still clear.  On first impressions, this claim was supprisely true.  However, what if there were some words that would be unintelligable if randomised.  What if there were some words that change their meaning in a dangerous way if the letters are randomised.  Since English has a million, the only way to avoid these spelling timebombs would be to know all the words and the problem pairs.  Since that is a lot of work, it is safer just to use normal spelling and to avoid randomised letters.
The following phrase appeared in today's Australian Financial Review, not long after the NG piece.
* Carpe diem - seize the day - do not waste an opportunity.
* Crape diem - go the the beach, and waste an opportunity.
* Carpe diem - szeie the dya - do nto wteas an otpnorpiuty.
* Crape diem - sfutf teh day - go the the bcaeh, adn wtsae an otuorpunipy.
* Buy!
* Sell!
* Buy! Sell! Cannot get more opposite than that.
* Bury the Buy order!
* Buy Order? Bury Order?
* Buy or Sell? Cannot get more ambiguous/dangerous than that.
Tabletop 11:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Geographic channel randomised intermediate letters. 

message: Obviously the divergent spelling section of this article and the sensational spelling article need to be worked on together.  If the proposal is to delete sesational spelling and put it all here, I would suggest caution - this is an interesting enough phenomenon that it could be a good article in its own right.  I would rather have a short summary here, with a "main article" reference, and put all the actual material in the other place. --Doric Loon 07:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think that sensational spelling could make a good article on its own, then sure, I'll drop the merge request.  Was mostly proposing it because it seemed like that it might be doomed to being a permanent stub, but if there's expansion possibilities, we might as well let it have them. SnowFire 03:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sensational spelling merge

message: The article mentions "Misspellings ... not caught by simple computerized spell checkers".
The article should say what these things are called.
This includes both homophone and also some not quite homophone word substitutions -- for example, I've seen college / collage; immolate / emulate, "wit hat" / "with at", none of which are homophones.
Is "technopropism" (Sandy Reed 1996) () the best name for this?
Or should we stick with malapropism ?
--75.48.165.135 05:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  technopropism 

message: I have a hunch that the story of the missing typwriter "N" is just that, a good tale. Quite a few names in the South Pacific have missing or silent N's, for example, Nadi Fiji, pronounced "Nandi". The explanation for this that I have encountered, on several occasions (without my ever having seen it written down), is that the earliest printing press in the South Pacific, in the days of shipping by sailboat, did not have enough lower case N's, and had to limit usage of same. (And, of course, maybe this is another good tale.) Tim Ross 10:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: missing N's in "Pago Pago"

message: What does this mean?  Spelling is "a prescriptive 
element of language.
It is in the article lead.  Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 12:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prescriptive Element 

message: Its not spelled wrong wtf?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.161.236 (talk) 11:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it isn't. Merriam-Webster allows of both spellings, reporting confectionary as the earlier usage (1599 vs 1751).71.243.27.217 (talk) 14:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confectionary? 

message: I am looking for a crossword answer for (spelling methods?) I have 6 blocks and also have 5 of the letters any one want to help  ??  blank       beahs...need first letter,,thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.196.164 (talk) 20:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  word definiton 

message: Possibly add a section about the grammar around the verb spell?  Commonly people say the past tense of to spell is "spelt" but it is actually "spelled"
:'Tis slang though, isn't it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.225.98 (talk) 12:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's spelt for British, Canadian, and Australian English. It's spelled for Standard American English. Therefore, you spell it correctly either way as long as you're aware of which spelling is which variant - TopAce (talk) 16:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't this be placed in the article then? 124.176.231.109 (talk) 22:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be added, and to the first person, it is spelt "spelt" in most variants of English. Shrimp3000 (talk) 04:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  the verb to spell 

message: The Marquess of Queensberry's visiting card may be of historical interest, but I'm not sure it's a good example here. It's totally illegible to ordinary mortals and so impossible to tell whether it's misspelled or not. 86.152.242.213 (talk) 00:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example graphic 

message: before anyone quotes this regarding how others use their own local English dialect when editing or making changes to any Wikipedia article. It should be noted that Wikipedia uses all dialects and no singular dialect takes precedent over any other, and all users should appreciate the differences of spelling and phrasing of others. So there can be no dominant style or preferred dialect as has been suggest by one editor recently. dolfrog (talk) 22:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:ENGVAR 

message: SnowFire to date you have not demonstrated that you have a real understanding of the origins of written language, writing systems, and language orthography which is what spelling is all about. I do not have the time to participate in the type of discussion which you to want to pursue. dolfrog (talk) 14:29, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is spelling about 

message: This article is in great need of a section describing the history of spelling. Spelling  was not always considered to be a discipline. It used to be (before 1800?) that if the reader could understand the word(s), then they were spelled "correctly." Our current rigidity is a rather modern contrivance. - left unsigned by someone
: I agree that the history of the phenomenon needs to be addressed. However, I wouldn't be too quick to assume that standardized spelling is a modern result. In order to understand the subject more accurately (from a linguistics and orthographical perspective), it has to be examined on a global scale, spanning many cultures, languages, and writing systems, both past and present. I suspect that the emergence of an accepted standard spelling is a natural phenomenon. Standardized spelling establishes whenever a writing system develops in order to exhibit less variation and streamline written communication. I need to verify this conclusion with a reliable source, such as a scholarly book on the topic, which I noticed is lacking in the references section. - The Aviv (talk) 07:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of spelling 

message: help  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.6.181.209 (talk) 08:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  help 

message: The article says:
:Since traditional language teaching methods emphasize written language over spoken language, a second-language speaker may have a better spelling ability than a native speaker despite having a poorer command of the language.
Personally, I don't completely disagree with this statement, but it would be much better to have a cited source that proves it. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second language speakers 

message: Does the term "spelling" apply to non-western writing systems and languages --  Arabic, Hebrew, Hindi and Korean for example -- or is "orthography" the only term to use? I'm aware that orthography covers more than spelling in a narrow sense.  Hyphenation for example.  Nevertheless does "spelling" only apply to languages using Roman, Greek or Cyrillic alphabets? LADave (talk) 22:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthography vs. Spelling 

message: If so, maybe mention them in a disambig hatnote thing on this article...?  I sometimes notice a widespread misspelling that covers too many articles to be corrected, and wonder if I could instruct someone's bot to fix them all. Things like "seperate", etc. Today I saw "prolongued", which is in 14 articles. Equinox ◑ 21:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there a spelling cleanup team on Wikipedia? 

message: Hi , you can follow the link in my edit summary to see the discussion thread for this. The sock edit in question on this article can be seen  here. However, if you feel the Wikiquote page on this topic is helpful to the reader, then I have no concern with your revert. I commented here just to make this clear. Walrus Ji (talk) 18:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the wikiquote entry, and saw some interesting content, nothing offensive or questionable. Not every sock edit is a bad one. (See ad hominem fallacy.) The harpsichord article is on my watchlist, and I've restored the template there as well, after checking it. Just plain Bill (talk) 19:18, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , WP:SOCKSTRIKE explains the reverts. Since you have verified those pages, you take the responsibility for adding its template. I am fine with that and have no concerns with either of your reverts. Thanks for the kind response. Happy Holidays. --Walrus Ji (talk) 19:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed template 

message: Hi I hope to see you there and if you be my friend I hope so my sister is going to be there but she’s going to be in a higher grade to me do you want to be my friend? 96.33.68.180 (talk) 02:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reading