Talk:Re-evaluation counseling

message: In the fourth paragraph of the 'Ideas' section, change 'Re-evalulation' to 'Re-evaluation'. (I can't do it as the page is locked)
Dccu-anna (talk) 08:54, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  correct 'Re-evalulation' to 'Re-evaluation' 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Replace the Re-evaluation Counseling Glossary link in the External Links section at the end of the article with the following link from the official Re-evaluation Counseling organization website:
   https://www.rc.org/page/publication/guidelines/glossary Bluewater02 (talk) 00:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Gulumeemee (talk) 04:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2018 

message: Change URL for Reference #12 to point to the actual Guidelines at: https://www.rc.org/publication/guidelines_2017/contents Bluewater02 (talk) 12:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Sam Sailor 17:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2018 

message: Change URL for Reference #11 to the actual RC Theory description at:  https://www.rc.org/publication/theory/about Bluewater02 (talk) 13:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Sam Sailor 17:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2018 

message: Remove reference #1 which is a dead link. No other link to this document is available. Bluewater02 (talk) 16:15, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Works fine for me. Sam Sailor 17:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2018 

message: The last sentence in the History section should read as follows:
After Jackins' death in 1999, his son, Tim Jackins, was chosen at the World Conference of RC leaders, to assume the role as International Reference Person. Bluewater02 (talk) 20:17, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:06, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2018 

message: Please disregard the proposed change form 2018 Jun 23, and replace with the following.
Change the last line of the History section:
"After Jackins' death in 1999, his son, Tim Jackins, was chosen at a conference, attended by leaders in the RC communities worldwide, to take over the role of International Liberation Reference Person, the title given to the leader(s) of RC."
to:
"After Jackins' death in 1999, his son, Tim Jackins, the Alternate International Reference Person, assumed the role of International Liberation Reference Person." Bluewater02 (talk) 16:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — LeoFrank  Talk 18:14, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2018 

message: I haven't read all the talk on this article, but it seems to me that there's something odd about starting the History section with accusations of plagiarism. Would it be possible to reframe those opening paragraphs so that Jackins's version of the beginnings of the organisation came first, with criticism of it, including the references to Dianetics, coming later. Scientology's longstanding hostility to Re-evaluation Counseling make it seem even odder to put the historic connection front and centre. 
A quick look at the references in these first paragraphs shows that it is mostly disgruntled former members of the organisation who are sources. Is this sound practice.
Can someone advise me what course of action I might take, given that this is a semi-protected page, and it seems that almost any change provokes controversy. (Shawjonathan (talk) 07:05, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent bias in article 

message: Please remove the link at the bottom of the page to Cherie Brown and the National Coalition Building Institute (NCBI).  NCBI is inaccurately described as a project of Reevaluation Counseling.  It is not.  For verification, see www.ncbi.org.  You may also contact the NCBI Board of Directors at info@ncbi.org. Lincoln319 (talk) 21:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: All set, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2021 

message: I would like to add a reference in the "criticism" section, but I can't edit the text, even if I am connected. Please add this if you want, after correcting it in good English: "In 2022, a critical text was written in French by a former RC participant, who continues to transmit the co-counseling independently. This text includes an almost exhaustive review of all the critical texts of RC available on the net, all written in English." And the link: https://unecoecoute.fr/le-salon/les-articles/retours-sur-mon-experience-a-rc/quelques-elements-critiques-de-lorganisation-re-evaluation-counseling-rc/
Thank you very much. Adriane Gerdsen (talk) 04:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2022 

message: Recent edits reference citations of unverifiable and self-published sources. What is the author's intention with respect to this article? As per Wikipedia guidelines, criticisms should go in that section, and only reputable and published sources should be used. The edits should probably be reverted.
Bluewater02 (talk) 19:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Bluewater02 that the author's intentions need to be questioned. Some of the language is prejudicial and inflammatory, even including allegations of criminal conduct. I followed up one or two of the references, and found they don't bear out the point that the revision is making. I agree that these edits should probably be reverted and Wikiwriter43103840 be asked to try again with more attention to objectivity and the use of reputable sources Shawjonathan (talk) 01:26, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits using unverifiable and self-published sources, integrity of intro paragraph 

message: Removed paragraph describing RC as a cult for a number of reasons: 1) Wikipedia itself defines a cult as, "usually a pejorative term... [it] is controversial and weakly defined...[and] an ongoing source of contention among scholars...."Cult  2) sources cited for this designation are largely personal webpages as opposed to authoritative sources, and many decades old having little to do with the entity as it exists today, and 3) appears to be used in this context as a way to denigrate this organization rather than inform readers.
I think there are other similar examples in this article that need to be re-examined and edited according to Wikipedia standards. Bluewater02 (talk) 18:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed paragraph based on faulty sources 

message: Article not written from an objective point of view. Multiple arguements without reference. Lack of comparison to other counseling methods, e.g. Gestalt. Doodus (talk) 21:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias / References 

message: Article was largely promotional and sourced exclusively to the organization itself; still lacks information not presented by RC, but has less direct quotes. Mrfoogles (talk) 00:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted a lot of the self-sourced parts of the article