Talk:University of Constantinople

message: Does it still exist? 128.232.250.254 22:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, found elsewhere on Wikipedia, it doesn't. 128.232.250.254 22:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Does anybody have information (sourced) about the exact location of the university? Was it around Forum Tauri (Today's Beyazıt Square, in an ancient temple, Kapitol) or around the Monastery of Stoudion, Church of St. John the Baptist?--Z yTalk 13:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: In my view, this entry is seriously flawed and should be completely rewritten. I don't have the time now to argue the case (Stbalbach has already done it pretty well), but let me at least give the following quotation from the corresponding German entry (which is itself not immaculate): "Die Bezeichnung "Universität" ist nicht zeitgenössisch und eigentlich irreführend, da es sich bei den Hohen Schulen von Konstantinopel auch nach 425 eher um Einrichtungen in antiker Tradition handelte als um etwas, das der westeuropäischen Universität vergleichbar gewesen wäre …"  Totila (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Second thought: it should be deleted and all links should be redirected to Byzantine university. Totila (talk) 16:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at this, then depending on the definition, Magnaura can be considered the world's oldest university.
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~bump/OriginUniversities.html
Because of the above definition, there is some controversy regarding what is the world's oldest university. If we consider university simply as a higher education institution, then the choice is between Takshashila, Nalanda and Al-Azhar University, but if we consider the original meaning of the word (from the latin "universitas": a corporation of students), then universities would be a medieval European phenomenon with the oldest university being the University of Magnaura in Constantinople (now Istanbul, Turkey), founded in 849 by the regent Bardas of emperor Michael III.
Xenovatis (talk) 21:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: The University of Constantinople and the Patriarchal School were TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. The University of Constantinople provided secular / laic higher education (i.e. non-theological, as most people were highly religious at the time), in rhetoric, philosophy and law. The Patriarchal School of Constantinople provided theological higher education.
Omulurimaru (talk) 09:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two DIFFERENT things 

message: University of Constantinople was an institution. Byzantine university refers to the higher education during the era of the Byzantine empire. I see no reason for a merge. --FocalPoint (talk) 20:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: It is wrong to name Byzantine schools/buildings as a university only for jingoism reasons, the goal is to exaggerate Byzantine history.
It is also anachronistic, the university is a late medieval western European institute, Byzantine society never had such a system. Title should be rrenamed because it is misleading to the readers. DragonTiger23 (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this supported by something? Considering the inline citations the claim seems like wp:or concert.Alexikoua (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is anachronistic jingoism 

message: I removed the 'citation needed' tag, as the reference at the end of the paragraph covers the whole paragraph. The original reads: 
"On the whole, Bzyantine society was an educated one. Primary education, widely available, sometimes even at the village level and, what is more, for both sexes - a thing unheard of in the Christian west until some 1,000 years later - ensured a high level of literacy. Female participation in culture, generally, was extensive, with many aristocratic women studying, engaging in research and writing. Scholarship was held in high esteem, fostered both in the great university at Constantinople, founded in AD 425, and in the important institutions of learning in such major provincial cities as Antioch and, of course, Alexandria."  Jonathan O'Donnell (talk) 19:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education for both sexes