Talk:Aegis

message: I found this section to be very incoherent as it freely mixed non-Norse fiction (sourced from the "Niebelungenlied") with Norse tradition (as known from the Sagas). As the heading was "Norse mythology", and as I quickly realized that no clarification or sources could be given on those parts of the text that were inherently wrong, I decided to wipe the German fiction from the Norse section. German fiction may build on Old Norse tradition, and it may be very similar at places, but it is definitely not the same thing. clsc (talk) 15:59, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally removed the section about supposed connections to Norse and Egyptian mythology for not providing any citations whatsoever. These sections were marked as lacking citations since December 2016. Larkusix (talk) 14:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Norse mythology

message: "Alternatively it has been suggested that it was originally symbolic of the storm-cloud and derived from aisso, signifying rapid, violent motion.  Another possible etymology is from the root Αιγ- (Aeg-) meaning wave, as per Αιγαίον (Aegean) = wavy sea." This is not Greek. A long list of "bright" and "goat" Aeg- phonyms can be found in the index to Robert Graves' The Greek Myths. No need to repeat them here. --Wetman 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aegis: a speculative alternate etymology without a reference

message: sorry, i don't really know how to use wiki, beyond searching, but it'd make sense to me, since there's a fictional swords category..
:: A comment on the non-signed comment above: "Fiction" and "Myth" are two separate words with different meaning. Myth relates to tradition, whereas fiction relates to imagination. clsc (talk) 16:16, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't this link to a "fictional armour" or "mythical shields" section? 

message: I took the liberty of removing Nabisco202's spam link to Aegis medical systems of California, which was added on Sept. 5, without discussing the edit first. I hope that was proper protocol jackbrown
I moved a blurb about Aegis Security Systems to its own article and put a link on the disambiguation page.  Oops, I got the edit comment wrong -- I put the new page's comment on this page and don't know how to fix it.  The Aegis Security Systems page looks slightly out of bounds -- no justification, seems slightly promotional, so I am probably going to go fix that as well.  Ducky (talk) 08:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial Spam 

message: Æ wasn't a ligature used in ancient times, why use it here? Arthurian Legend 22:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pure affectation. --Wetman (talk) 08:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why use æ? 

message: I have a Classics degree and can't be arsed figuring it out, but I've a feeling this article is full of bollox.  I know a man on wiki who may be able to fix it.:)Merkinsmum 20:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: my greek professor just told me that aegis comes from the greek word for goat. Seeing as the genitive form is "aigos", it makes sense to me that a shield made from goatskin ("of a goat") would have its etymological roots in the word… and her being from Greece herself, I suppose she would have heard the folktales from her elders. 99.251.230.51 (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

text: A look at the first post above would help you: "a long list of "bright" and "goat" Aeg- phonyms can be found in the index to Robert Graves' The Greek Myths. No need to repeat them here." That "Classics degree" refered to may have been a prize in a cereal box, as far as we can tell. --Wetman (talk) 08:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I have made some relevant edits. The etymology from goat is doubtful, now as in ancient times. Aex was a daughter of Helios, but in later antiquity she is being confused with a wife of Pan and therefore with an etymology related to goats. Etymologically, Aex may be rather related to Aegle - bright light or lightning. Homer commonly refers to Zeus as the aegis-bearer. Zeus generally held a lightning or thunderbold, not a shield, breastplate or animal skin. In relation to its employment by Apollo, his use of Zeus' thunderbolt would have impressed his enemies more than if he had been attacking them holding a goat-skin. On the other hand, the passages relating to Athena's employment of the aegis suggest it was something she could carry about her shoulders, potentially something that could be worn. Skamnelis (talk) 01:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Full of bollox, innit?

message: This article looks a little dodgy to me. It contains many assertions and many cites, but I'm not sure that the cites support the assertions. ** I don't have any problem with being wrong about this, but I'd like to see the evidence that I'm wrong. **
I added an "original research" tag to the article on 26 Aug 2008 and User:Wetman removed it. Rather than edit-war about this I'm mentioning my concern here. -- 201.17.36.246 (talk) 20:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research / Improper synthesis in this article?

message: Listed as /ˈiːdʒɨs/, but eɪ:dʒɨs is equally as common in my opinion and both versions are listed on Merriam-Webster online and available for listening and comparison. Is this geographic variation, bastardisation or just people being wrong? Any reason to not list both pronounciations? 77.185.42.5 (talk) 00:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronounciation

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message: another usage of Aegis was to denote the right shoulder emblem (not breastplate) of Zeus which was a symbol of his connections
across the heavens, giving him (infinite?) power but esp power of the thunderbolt (and of life) ... THAT was, is the overwhelming 
usage of this term... and sometimes , also appears as a lightning bolt complex shape in Zeus's hand ... the origin of this power connection, was the similar shape symbol underneath the thrones of Pharoahs, the pivot or axle of the heavens, tied heaven to earth by the double stalks of both reeds and lotus woven back and forth to tie heaven to earth, both life and power of heaven to earth ... q.v. Santilla's, Hamlet's Mill, haroon chakrawallah 9 24.186.56.245 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 18:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The dominant god in Indoeuropean religions was a sky god: Zeus or Jove, the Germanic Thor, the Scythian Papaios were sky gods. As stated in the relevant article, Zeus is the Greek continuation of *Di̯ēus, the name of the Proto-Indo-European god of the daytime sky, also called *Dyeus ph2tēr ("Sky Father"). There should be no need to seek an origin of the symbolic thunderbolt in Egyptian religion.192.129.2.114 (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing !!