Talk:Colchester United F.C.

message: British English should be used for articles on Britain related topics. Likewise, American English should be used on articles pertaining to American topics. For a clearer example, please visit this sub-section on the differences between their usage. --Siva1979Talk to me 18:24, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, but as a user of UK English , a football fan and a grammatical pedant, I am very aware of the conflict inherent in attributing plural pronouns and verb forms to a football (or other sports) club that is a singular entity: it does not even boast the feature of being a collective noun to mitigate the apparent error.  (North American English is almost as contrary: phrases such as "St Louis [abbreviation for the plural verb, St Louis Cardinals] wins" abound.)  However, while I would be comfortable with "Colchester United are", or even "Colchester United F.C. are", I think that the example to which you have attached this insistence "Colchester United Football Club are an English football team" grates somewhat.  Kevin McE 21:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A note on British English

message: This part of the article is currently very confused.  Was Col Town subsumed into Col Utd, or did they exist side by side?  Needs a thorough re-write by somebody with an authoritative source to hand.  Kevin McE 18:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was going to say the same, the opening paragraph states that the 2 clubs groundshared for a short period, but the history section claims that United were set up "shortly after" Town ceased to exist! Grunners (talk) 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have done some research and fixed the article =) Grunners (talk) 18:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early history 

message: Placed this kit box here till there is a decent bit of info to do a proper previous kits section on the article. Govvy (talk) 11:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  previous kits. (archive) 

message: Please note that Teddy Sheringham didn't play enough games for Colchester to warrent inclusion on the former players of note list. So can you please stop adding him. Govvy (talk) 20:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If he'd first made his name at Colchester and then made a big money move then maybe, but he was a 40 year old bit part player, in a season where the club got relegated. Such sections are for players who had a significant impact on the club's history, which with the best will in the world Sheringham did not. Oldelpaso (talk) 08:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Teddy Sheringham]] 

message: I stumbled upon Steve Lamacq's wiki the other day and noticed he's "arguably the most famous fan" of the club. It got me wondering want other celebrity's we have. I couldn't find another Deliah Smith, Elton John or even a Russell Brand but I did get a few names. It currently a page on my profile site. Any objections to adding it to the main page? DarthJoeyJoJo (talk) 09:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those band members might have done something as fans that gained public attention: that does not make them famous fans.  To take examples from my club, we used to have a bunch of dancing girls (G Force) at half-time: their exercised their talent in the centre circle with full enthusiasm and at least some of them said in the local paper that they had been long term fans of the club: that does not make them famous fans.  A local character, best known as Peter the Parka, celebrated 1000 Gills matches (home and away) without missing a game about 4 years ago and I think has maintained that record: he was the first person to marry (well, I suppose he tied for first with his wife) in the stadium, and he now is a match analyst with Radio Kent, but although he is well known for being a Gills fan, he is not regarded as a famous fan.  Another fan has written and recorded songs and variants of songs that are played at Priestfield every week, using his professional abilities and contacts: that might be a noteworthy act of a fan, but it does not make that fan famous. You suggest that you will re-add one Les Oakes: there is no article on Wikipedia of a Les Oakes, I have no idea what he is thought to be famous for, and I wonder how many people outside of Col U's fanbase would have heard of him: a google search of "Les Oakes" + "Colchester United" yields 11 hits, all of them specifically related to the club's site or message boards or to local papers: "Les Oakes" on its own suggests that the most famous holder of the name was a architectural reclamation specialist in Staffordshire.  Famous fans are people who have a wide and well established public recognition level, and a high media profile, who have publicly stated their support for the club; if fans have, because of their support for the club, done things that are noteworthy, that would come under fans' activities.  However, I will repeat what I said on your talk page, that those clubs whose articles have been raised to the status of Good article or Featured article do not dwell on such matters: they need to be written without the enthusiasm of a fellow fan if they are to reflect proper encyclopaedic style. Kevin McE (talk) 10:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For the third time in this dialogue, there is a distinction to be drawn between fans who are famous, and fans who do something worth mentioning because they are fans.  If you don't like the term famous yourself, I can only comment on the irony that it is you who seems to be trying to defend their inclusion in a famous fans section, when I have suggested an alternative twice (and now three times).  And while I'm doing things for the third time, can I suggest that you look at the exemplary football club articles, so that your efforts on this one are appropriately directed at raising this article to the best standards of Wikipedia, rather than simply including things that you would like to see recorded.  Kevin McE (talk) 12:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Additionally, I would draw your attention to this discussion on the talk page for club articles, which, although it didn't draw many contributors, was unanimous in opposition to such sections.  If you think that was a bad call, debate it there or at WP:FOOTY talk.  Kevin McE (talk) 12:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Well I'm afraid consensus among Wikipedia editors carries more weight than consensus around your breakfast table.  You undermine your argument rather with your West Ham examples: Alf Garnett is a fictional character, and I'm pretty confident that Barack Obama has never set foot in the Boleyn ground, or would be able to name many major figures from the club's history.  The change from famous to a synonym changes nothing, least of all how well known those individuals are/were.  The West Ham and Newcastle examples are only rated as B class (and will remain so as long as they have trivia sections and unsupported claims), and therefore cannot be claimed to be exemplary articles to cite as proof, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  The discussion at the WHU page didn't even attempt to discuss policy.  I repeat: if you think the relevant discussions reached untenable conclusions, raise the matter at the relevant forums for discussing policy and establishing consensus. Kevin McE (talk) 07:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, I read the link, but it doesn't say that he's ever seen a game, and it looks very like a typical politician's answer, but the WHU thing is a red herring anyway.  I have nothing against a well written section on supporter culture: that is a very different proposition from a famous/well known fans section in which the majority of those mentioned are neither famous nor well known.  Kevin McE (talk) 17:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I'll get to work on that right away. Thanks for your input on this article. Oh, and your right about the Barack thing. Still my mum is a West Ham fan and it puts a smile on her face to think the man in the White House is considering a Claret and Blue paint job.
I'm still trying to put this Flo Rida thing to bed. If he did draw ColU out of a hat, hes not a true fan. Im just waiting on offical confirmation of this. DarthJoeyJoJo (talk) 21:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I've trimmed back this section to the essentials. Full details of persons support for a team aren't real worth noting on a team's page. The section could do with some fleshing out with details of any supporters organisations, genuinely notable songs, etc. Dancarney (talk) 16:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, agreed as much with Kev and am currently working on that (see debate above) DarthJoeyJoJo (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous fans of the club 

message: The club's website gives no biographical details of the members of the U18 squad.  Where, therefore, is the verification of the nationalities of these young men?  According to WP:BLP, we cannot publish what is no more than an assumption. Kevin McE (talk) 07:15, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unverifiable nationalities 

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message: Can anyone add the club crest back onto this article please? Michaeldble (talk) 22:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been happening a lot recently, there are a lot of bad faith editors. I have requested an undelete and transfer here. , but I am not that familiar with the process. Govvy (talk) 07:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Govvy Thank you! Michaeldble (talk) 12:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Have no restored the club crest to the article. Govvy (talk) 14:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Govvy Thank you for doing that! Michaeldble (talk) 21:33, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Govvy@Michaeldble I have had to remove the crest you had uploaded as it was not the official club crest. If you look on the club’s website you will see that the official badge is a darker blue and with bolder fonts than the variant that had been uploaded to the article. Fully supportive of having the badge on the article but it must be authentic. Magpie069 (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing club crest 

message: Does anyone know how to get the current kits graphic updated on the page? The home kit is up to date, however the away and third kits are wrong and need updating. Magpie069 (talk) 22:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current kit graphics outdated - how to update?