Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scientology

message: Currently, there is "history" content in 7 articles (at least):
* L. Ron Hubbard (lengthy)
* Early life of L. Ron Hubbard (a distinct topic)
* Military career of L. Ron Hubbard (a distinct topic)
* Dianetics (some)
* History of Dianetics
* Scientology (lengthy)
* Church of Scientology (small amount)
I propose that we focus on keeping just 3 history articles:
* Early life of L. Ron Hubbard
* Military career of L. Ron Hubbard.
* History of Dianetics and Scientology (taken initially from History of Dianetics; Dianetics is part of Scientology and really shouldn't be separated from it)
Dianetics, Scientology, and Church of Scientology should have only summaries of history and the pointer .
L. Ron Hubbard would probably have a larger summary, but there is far too much detail in the current article. 
To get there, we would have to do:
# Rename History of Dianetics to History of Dianetics and Scientology
# Clean up Dianetics#History, merging any unique content into History of Dianetics and Scientology
# Merge content from Scientology#History to History of Dianetics and Scientology
# Make a new summary for Scientology#History that covers just the key points necessary for this article.
# Check Church of Scientology#History to see if there's any unique content to copy into History of Dianetics and Scientology, then clean up the summary there.
# Go through L. Ron Hubbard to see if there's any unique content that needs to go into Early life of L. Ron Hubbard or Military career of L. Ron Hubbard or History of Dianetics and Scientology.
# Check L. Ron Hubbard to see how it could be trimmed and focused for that topic.
Reasons why to do this: The three top-level articles — L. Ron Hubbard (155K), Scientology (270K) and Church of Scientology (175K) — are all rather lengthy and need trimming. Also, there is duplicate history content in many of these articles. There has been no designated 'master' article containing all of the history content for the life and work of Hubbard (including the organizations, up to today) so content has been haphazardly added to 'whichever' article, leaving gaps and duplications all over the place. Maintaining the content in its current state is difficult and it would be much easier if there were master [sub-]articles for the histories. Also, why would anyone go to those sub-articles if there's already massive amounts of history in the three top level articles (rather than summaries as is suggested in WP guidelines). Per WP:PROPERSPLIT, we should  If we don't leave behind just a summary, but instead leave a honkin' great big chunk o' content, then that is a WP:CONTENTFORK (no matter how we got to this point).
Grorp (talk) 07:27, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes total sense to me.    I've started on it. Feoffer (talk) 01:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:   Thanks, for tackling this project. I see you're going gangbusters on it.   Grorp (talk) 06:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:   I saw your edit-summary note in this revert. Feoffer is doing the above suggested program at the same time as working on the suggestions from Talk:L. Ron Hubbard/GA2. I've been reviewing all of his edits and so far seems to be right on point. I recommend that 's edit in Scientology be restored. Grorp (talk) 06:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:   Grorp, thanks for your guidance and TFeoffer, thanks for this work. I reverted my revert. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 12:46, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the kind words!  Feoffer (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlapping and duplicate histories, CONTENTFORKs 

message: Someone recently created a stub for Bixler, and someone a while back created one for Cardone. Cardone has a LOT of reliable sources written about him, but finding them (needles) in the haystack of google after his own massive advertise-self... pretty hard to find. I've edited that article some, but it is full of puffery and needs a cleanout. If anyone is interested, you now know where it is. (Draft space is pretty much a hidden cupboard of articles.) Grorp (talk) 08:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I am pretty sure the Bixler article could be expanded over time, especially with the coverage of the civil case(s) following Danny Masterson's conviction. Drafts get auto-deleted if they are not edited for 6 months; I just made a token edit to both of these to ensure they stick around for another 6 months.    ▶ I am Grorp ◀  22:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft:Grant Cardone & Draft:Chrissie Carnell Bixler 

message: Military career of L. Ron Hubbard has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 12:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article reassessment for [[Military career of L. Ron Hubbard]]