Talk:Dead or Alive (franchise)

message: --Aeugnewtype 22:14, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The optimism section is a little iffy, there's no particular reason for Wikipedia to hype up the game. -- Anetode 09:00, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

text: This is a huge effort for someone not working in their native language and you deserve a lot of credit for coming back to it so much. However, I think you need to work on developing an NPOV style of writing. The spelling and grammar are easy for native speakers to tidy up but NPOV is harder to attain when one doesn't know the story as well as you do. Clearly, DOA fans can get emotive about their passion but you need to refrain from making allegations of things like bribery which are criminal acts. Any time I've deleted sentences, it's been when the meaning was unclear and looked like it might be hyperbole or unsubstantiated but there is still a lot of work to be done. Stick with it though and your writing will keep improving.  Gest 13:39, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stuff 

message: --Hakusa - Wiki addict: 03:44, September 3, 2005 (UTC) 
A while ago I posted a critisism that I had heard some people talk about button mashing. They said that the game could easily be won by mashing a few buttons. I did some forum research and remembered a mention of this from an edition of Official Xbox Magazine. So, naturally not seeing this under criticisms I decided to post it, however my post was quickly erased. ThisWas my entry and you can just scroll down to criticisms you can see my entry. (It's the third.) I just wanted to know if I sould have written it differently or you guys just don't like the critisism. 
;I would like to mention this is not my opinion.
:Every beat 'em up could be criticised as a button-masher.  Also, some people posting on a forum is not really a could source for an encyclopedia.  My suggestion would be to write a general piece at fighting game linking to button mashing.  That article could do with a little work, too.  violet/riga (t) 08:13, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends upon your use of the terminology!  violet/riga (t) 10:09, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critisism: Button Mashing 

message: The article needed some cleaning up.  Some parts were ungrammatical, details were duplicated, sentences never ended, and so on. Anetode 11:22, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  rewrite 

message: most character articles are nothing that this article already explains. the only real character article i've come across that I think should stay is helena's. should we merge the character articles into this page? --TBH 09:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  merging character pages into this article 

message: as per the notice on the page, I do not feel that the main article should be split up into seperate articles. the reason doa1,doa2 etc. are on the main doa page is because they never had anything relevant that wasn't already was on the main page. if we split them up they'll all turn into stubs anyway. --TBH 13:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: to be devil's advocate, I don't. Dead or Alive doesn't exactly have one of the best stories in video games. it hardly changes each game. --Phil 06:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

text: If you can get lots of info on the games, then I'm fine with splitting up the articles. --Snkcube 04:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In what way specifically?--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 06:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

text: True.  What do you think about this.  Leave them on the main page, but include in either the infobox or body text (whichever is easier), A list of characters on DOA(original) and for every version do the same, but listing the changes only.  And funny about the story.  It actually does exist somewhat if you REALLY get into it.  I mean, it didn't that much until DOA Ultimate came along, but with that, I get the feeling that there is A LOT more story injected into the game with that though.  Its almost notable now.  --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 07:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting up articles 

message: It took me awhile, but I finally got around to overhauling all of the DOA character pages, as well as creating new ones.  If possible, take a look at the character pages and tell me what you think of my efforts.-MegamanZero 11:24 25, November 2005
:I think you did a very fine job. You added lots of new info about the characters, which is nice. You also re-arranged some of the articles and made it flow better. --Snkcube 23:48, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: I am informally requesting that everyone cease removing the word tentative from the release date until the game is actually being sold.  Every announced release date, no matter what game or how official the announcement, of ANY videogame, should be considered tentative.  Release dates switch so much it is ignorant to call them anything but tentative until the game is released.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 22:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release dates 

message: I have created a new template for all DOA related articles. please include this code:  at the bottom of each article. --Phil 18:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: just like a regular article, except the article begins with Template: --Phil 18:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template 

message: I think we can rename some DOA character's articles. like Lei Fang (DOA) to Lei Fang, Bass Armstrong (DOA) to Bass Armstrong or Bayman (DOA) to Bayman. there aren't going to be other people with these names for a long time, if ever. if there are in the future, we can simply reuse their "(doa)" articles. --Phil 01:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved lei fang, tina, bass, gen fu and bayman. but I had trouble moving alpha-152 and jann lee. there seems to be a problem with moving those. --Phil 07:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

text: An ALPHA-152 page already exists but it redirects here. How do get rid of that page so we can simply rename ALPHA-152 (DOA)? -- Psi edit 16:54, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You probably have to go through AFD, or if you can express your intent directly to an admin, a speedy delete.  Don't forget to fix all the links when you do it.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 07:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Perhaps i'm being a bit anal, but do we need the character articles to have such long titles? (Zack (Dead or Alive character), Leon (Dead or Alive character) etc). Can't (DOA) or (Dead or Alive) suffice? --Philo 08:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character article titles 

message: Neutral point of view (NPOV). Write from a neutral point of view. This is a non-negotiable and fundamental principle of Wikipedia, which allows us to make a fair representation of the world around us. 
Criticism should be left for message boards not for information articles. "Just the facts please."
::Quite. I missed that. I'll remove it immediately, if it hasn't been already. -ZeroTalk 07:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Allow me to point out one thing.  Listing professional criticism (such as that by critics or reviewers in magazines) or otherwise published criticisms are usually acceptable.  Naturally, this is under the condition that it is noted where the criticism came from, and that it be accompanied with examples of praise from critics.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 01:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Npov issuses removed 

message: I'm not sure about Rachel, but is it possible we could add an article on Muramusa into the misc. character section. He is in Dead or Alive 4, and we could also mention his significance in Ninja Gaiden as well. As for Rachel, perhaps not, but Ninja Gaiden doesn't have a series like Dead or Alive. What do you guys think? Seriphyn 16:56, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Non-notable characters. Place them in the List of Dead or Alive characters. -ZeroTalk 16:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Muramusa and (perhaps) Rachel to misc. character section 

message: Npov issuses removed
Neutral point of view (NPOV). Write from a neutral point of view. This is a non-negotiable and fundamental principle of Wikipedia, which allows us to make a fair representation of the world around us.
Criticism should be left for message boards not for information articles. "Just the facts please."
Quite. I missed that. I'll remove it immediately, if it hasn't been already. -ZeroTalk 07:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Npov issuses removed again  Please read if you are editing this page 

message: This is a factual medium.  No opinions please.  If you are out editing pages please read the discussion pages to understand why pages were altered before you start crying vandalism.  If everyone understands then wikipedia doesn't have to get involved.  Thanks.--Panzer k 17:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Npov issuse addressed again 

message: I've taken a look at various other series that have been elevated to GA status and notice that the games section implements brief overviews of each game in the series' main article rather than the articles themselves. I'd suggest a merge of the various overview sections into the main article. -ZeroTalk 09:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh, I've lost patience with this. I'll just make a brief summary in my own words for each and leave a full link to every article. Since Chronos and Xtreme 2 are still stubs, I'll go ahead in merge them into this one. -ZeroTalk 09:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. A vast improvement. -ZeroTalk 11:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Games section 

message: * You need fair use rationales
* You need to have refs like this -
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* Keep up the good work, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 11:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, fair use rationales! Sorry, I goofed. I'll take care of that right now. -ZeroTalk 11:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -ZeroTalk 21:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: Mainly because the article in not as indepth as i feel it could be, the Inspiration and development section for instance, im sure if futher re-searched this could be expanded. Some good work has gone into this so far, but still renom again when it has been futher expanded. Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 17:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA failed

message: I think it should be noted DOA5's platform has yet to announced, we all pretty much know it has high possibility of ending up on the Xbox 360. However, we don't know if this might end up multiplat. Wikipedia has no room for speculation, so I'm changing the platform for DOA5 in the table under Games to TBA. 12.205.224.183 (talk) 07:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead or Alive 5 platform speculation 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Doa4cover.jpg

message: While it is most likely true, stating that plans for any more games have been cancelled is more or less an assumption. Until a news article reports that the owner of the IP rights (Tecmo) scraps plans for the series, we can only really say that Itagaki will not be participating in its production.  It seems weird but just because he says its cancelled doesn't mean it actually is, more than once companies have run withan IP after the original creator gave up on it, with varying results.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOA 5's fate 

message: The section called Gameplay is definitely POV. It sounds like a review rather than an encyclopedic description. Most of it is purely opinion. Either delete it outright or replace it with sourced statements from neutral third parties. Could it ever become more than opinion? Wood Thrush (talk) 00:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay section POV 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
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thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: WikiProject Halo seems to have hijacked a DOA article and its redirects.  was redirected to Characters of Halo, where the info subsequently removed (probably because it's not a HALO character).
The other redirects include  and 
65.94.252.195 (talk) 10:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Per discussion on my talk page, I have restored the article and placed merge template for the proper target. 65.94.252.195 (talk) 11:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicole-458 

message: --Asperchu (talk) 23:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone provide pictures for Ayane's and Kasumi's articles? 

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