Talk:Neology

message: Since the main article currently gives a prominent place to dictionary definitions, I thought we should check with the Oxford English Dictionary, which is currently the largest for the language. We may not be able to copy the whole entry word-for-word, if its date of first publication is within the copyright period. There seem to be two main meanings. The first refers to the use of new words, and goes back to early in the 19th century: a subsidiary usage (in the plural form "neologies") is for new words themselves, the source for which is a late 17th century report of proceedings in the Scottish parliament. The second usage, also from the 19th century, refers to German innovations in Christian theology: I get the impression that the term was used by those who deplored them. The derivation offered by the OED is the French word "néologie." However, as I looked this up late at night, I have not yet put anything into the main article.
More generally, "neology" seems to be a word used from the outside looking in, as a term used to describe one form of heresy: most people do not think they themselves are heretics. It resembles "allopathy," the term coined by the first homoeopath, though in that case it was a "newthinker" who was parodying "oldthink." There is a similar expression in Sanskrit for abusing new ideas or arguments.
As the original commenter made clear, "neology" is an uncommon word nowadays: probably because what it describes is no longer new. "Neologism" is in commoner use by those who dislike new words, and is frequently used by psychiatrists and psychologists to describe a feature of schizophrenic speech. NRPanikker (talk) 17:01, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Originally by those who deplored that theology, yes. Then the name of this theological "school" got established - at least in several other languages, see :de:Neologie (that article also mentions it was originally a case of namecalling). See also da, fi, sv. --Hjordmån (talk) 13:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxford English Dictionary 

message: Book chapter. "Eighteenth-Century Neology" by Eric Carlsson, in "The Oxford Handbook of Early Modern Theology, 1600-1800". Abstract here  I can get my hands on this book but maybe not very soon. --Hjordmån (talk) 13:48, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Eric Carlsson gives an interesting historical account of the shift from theological dogma to lived experience in the history of religious instruction. It can also be read developmentally, as an account of stages in the growth of disbelief, with "neology" being an intermediate stage on the road from credulity to enlightenment. The abstract is understandably, rather "abstract:" perhaps an analogy could be drawn from the development of children's belief in the cargo cult of Santa Claus? Many children are taught to believe in the benevolent old chap who brings presents to good children; some are encouraged to send him a letter through the fireplace, or the postal system; many pay to see him at a local shop; some begin to doubt his existence, but taking Pascal's Wager still modify their behaviour to make sure he comes after they hang their sock up; but most end up not believing in him at all. Very few go to the fundamentalist extreme of being able to name all eight of his reindeer. NRPanikker (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on the theology term 

message: As others have indicated, expressions imputing newness used to be disparaging. For Cicero to be a novus homo was not a mark of honour, nor was it for a family much later to be regarded as nouveau riche. In the 20th century, things were otherwise: the New Look in clothing was sought after, and Newspeak was imitated in political discourse. In our time anything with "neuro-," although the derivation is different, benefits from the same metaphysical glow: ordinary mumbo-jumbo is not esteemed half as much as Neurotwaddle. The 17th and 18th century origins of the term "neology," and its use by divines, point to its use as an term of disapprobation in the context of religion, even though terms coined in the 19th century such as neohegelian and neogrammarian were neutral as regards esteem. NRPanikker (talk) 22:03, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Term of Disparagement 

message: In the film The Matrix Resurrections, there's a concept mentioned as "Neology".
For now I can tell it from memory
  הראש (talk) 23:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other meaning