Talk:Otorhinolaryngology

message: Just curious why someone would decide to go to an otolarynhgthist.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.45.237 (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe because they have an extreme sinus, nose, throat, ear problem? Probably the vast majority of their patients go to a "regular" (nonspecialist) physician 1st, then get referred because the problem is too complex.  I was personally referred to one when I was 13 years old, to have surgery on my nose & sinuses.  As for your topic heading, why do any specialists exist? Why not just have all doctors be "jacks-of-all-trades"; better yet, why not just have everybody be "generalists", doing away completely with specializaton and go back to a barter economy. Is that what you'd like? Have you ever heard of the concept of the "division of labor"?173.16.124.196 (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi all, I am interested in standardizing and cleaning up this wikipedia site. I don't believe the current "Topics" section is particularly well organized, nor is it very helpful to people (especially potential patients) to have various sections on surgical techniques like free tissue transfer. Perhaps we instead name this section "Specialties and Related Conditions" - and implement a separate section on tests used by ENT docs so patients might get some guidance into what an ENT can help them with. Thoughts? --Nicoespi (talk) 17:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Why do they exist?

message: i want to be one.
help me.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.150.254 (talk • contribs) 
:Well, finish primary school and secondary school, go to university, get a medical degree and apply for specialist training in otolaryngology. Simple. JFW | T@lk 18:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: i

message: "A somewhat outdated, but nevertheless commonly used, term for this speciality is ENT (ear nose and throat)."
This seems to be a put-down of the majority of people, who use ordinary, easy-to-remember English terms rather than medical terminology. --Singkong2005 00:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just got a job at an eye and ear hospital. I now sort all of the incoming mail. Leaning why the mail for ENT goes in the same box as the mail for Otolaryngology was useful to me. -- Ianiceboy 11:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ENT

message: hopiakuta 00:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[otorhinolaryngology]] 

message: This article only has a US-angle (and, contrary to popular belief there is a world outside of the USA), can someone change it so that it has different areas for different countries - for instance, training in the United Kingdom is very different to that undertaken in the states? --CapFan  —Preceding comment was added at 14:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: International Leaning

message: Aww what, no pronunciation key and example? C'mon someone muster up the pronunciation key for this, the hardest word to pronounce in the English language :P SyBerWoLff 02:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: The correct name is Otorhinolaryngology and this should be the name of the article. It may be commonly referred to as Otolaryngology, but that is an incomplete name and should not be the title of the article.
Afil (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please correct name 

message: I've no particular opinion on whether a rhino belongs within oto?laryngology. I did rerhinotize the article -- not because of my own understanding of what was inherently better, but simply in accordance with both the article title and what I read above. This was reverted by 72.234.41.245, who didn't explain himself where he should have, but did post the following on his own talk page:
The name of this speciality has been changed from Otolaryngology to Otorhinolaryngology because the latter is the "proper" name.
The trade body of this group of doctors is the American Board of Otolaryngology.
A Google Ngram of this word is illuminating with the usage split about 7.5:1.
And apart from anything else you confused the hell out of me and I lost about half an hour working out what Otorhinolaryngology was and researching and correcting this.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Otorhinolaryngology%2COtolaryngology&year_start=1880&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2COtorhinolaryngology%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2COtolaryngology%3B%2Cc0
Keep up the good work!
Steve
The ngram to which Steve links is indeed impressive. This does not mean that it's decisive. However, it is evidence; whereas the only two arguments for rhino-retention in the section "Requested move" above are are accuracy and (from Necrothesp, without accompanying evidence) commonness of use. -- Hoary (talk) 01:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I am the person that requested the move. The anonymous user above states that the term Otorhinolaryngology confused the hell out of him and, well, for me it was quite the opposite — the term otolaryngology confused me very much. In my language we also use this Latin term and we always say it as ORL not OL. I don't know why the English language threw "rhino" (nose) out of specialty's name (probably for the easier pronunciation which is pointless), but in most other languages the ORL term is more frequent and here are Google Ngrams to prove it: German, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian. Google Ngrams don't offer other languages so these are all. As you can see, in all of them ORL is much more common and if somebody, whose mother tongue is not English but either one of those languages or most other world languages, will go searching internet and Wikipedia for ORL, not OL and therefore that should be the name of the article. Also, look at the article name for all other Wikipedias. And not just because of that, but because of accuracy, as you mentioned. ORL is for noses as well as for ears and throats. 78.0.208.231 (talk) 12:50, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Does the rhino face extinction?

message: "Latissimus is another word for back in the medical field as well as rectus abdominis which is your abdominal area" This is not an accurate statement, as those muscle names are not "another word" for those body regions.
162.211.72.10 (talk) 12:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction suggestion