Talk:Sukarno

message: I made additions to this page.Sukarno, in the late 1950s, did not receive aid from the Soviet Union per se, but from Poland, Czechoslovakia, and later from West Germany and Italy.  He received arms from Soviet BLOC countries, but not the USSR.  Also, the Eisenhower Administration made sure that they gave more military aid to Sukarno than he would get from the Soviet bloc.  This is all well documented in the Kahin book i placed on the reference page, pages 206-209. All facts come from released US Gov't documents.  
Lastly, I added a bit on the PRRI rebels, a portion of this page I found deficit after reading the Kahin book.  The forces were weak and EXTREMEMLY supported by pro-Western donors both private and public.  The CIA, the Taiwanese, and the Filipinos gave lots of arms to the rebels on Sumatra and later even more to those on Sulawesi.  It was these arms, including planes in Sulawesi, that embarrassed the United States soon after when the pilot was shot down doing bombing raids on Sulawesi.  He was sentenced to death, but Robert Kennedy secured his release in 1961.  His name was Allen Pope.  This, too is well documented in the Kahin book, pages 179-182.
thomas
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Are you sure about the Achmad? I thought he only had the one name. M.e 07:22, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds right.  (Not knowing much about Indonesia, I can't definitively judge one way or another.)  What I know is that the CIA did want Sukarno out, but of course that doesn't necessarily mean they were the cause of his downfall.  A-giau 05:43, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: I'm going to remove "Achmad" from Sukarno's name again; as the article notes, he is known simply as "Sukarno". Every single authoritative history of Indonesia I've read uses the single name - I can cite specifics anyone is interested. There are now two potential sources of the "Achmad" name; 1) mentioned by User:Peacenik above and vaguely familiar to me as well, is that a confused American reporter added it in the 1960s; and 2) that Sukarno chose it after a hajj. Given that there are two conflicting stories, and that the vast majority of print sources don't use it at all, I think a good citation of its source is necessary before we insert it in the article. (Some potentially interesting background on Indonesian (Javanese, really) names if anyone is still interested: ) CDC (talk) 03:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm Indonesian, and i never heard anything about the "Achmad Soekarno" name, nor my parents and my grandparents. Here in Indonesia, He was simply known as "Soekarno", "Ir.Soekarno", or "Bung Karno."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.81.62.142 (talk) 02:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sukarno's name

message: There seems to be some confusion between Sukarno and Suharto in the section "Removal from Power", specifically in the second paragraph. Then again, I'm not up on Indonesian history, so maybe not.
Cottingham 20:04, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusion between "Sukarno" and "Suharto"

message: Too many US-bashers have edited this one.  The article's tone is in many places much too leading and apologetic.  Stick to the facts people.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.221.39 (talk) 11 March 2006 </span>
This article includes fantasy and un-cited insights to the soul of people, e.g. "because he thought both systems worsened the life of Indonesian people", "but abruptly abandoned him to save themselves", and "approached him with respect". It also asserts un-cited claims such as "he had become a popular hero". As a comment I mention that I have not seen any chronicles of the day suggesting Sukarno was a popular hero before the war. There is a English translation of Bernhard Dahm's "Sukarno and the Struggle for Indonesian Independence", which I suggest any scholar interested in Sukarno would find worth reading for it's examples of Sukarno's war time history.Daeron (talk) 00:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  doubtful neutrality 

message: Sukarno was never Sukarno at all,.. the name is "Soekarno". Yes, it was the old spelling, with the same pronuncation, but a name is a name, it should not change !
I would like to suggest to correct the spelling, "Soekarno" and not "Sukarno".
Same goes to "Soeharto" and not "Suharto"
BlueCall (talk) 04:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name should not be altered ! 

message: "The most prominent critic of Western democracy was Sukarno, who, rather than being forced, gave the distinct impression of being keen to offer his services to the new conquerors. The metamorphosis of Sukarno from a prewar Marxist-tinged anti-imperialist into a Japanese cooperator par excellence is striking, and cannot solely be attributed to his consummate acting skills."
 ...
"Sukarno and the other leaders tried to use the Japanese im-
posed mass organisation, PUTERA, primarily to strengthen na-
tionalist sentiment among the people."
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"With the war approaching Indonesian territory itself, on 1 March 1945 the Japanese announced that a committee to investigate Indonesian independence would be established."
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"The rapid deterioration of the Japanese military situation in South-East Asia forced the time schedule for the granting of Indonesian independence to be put forward and on 7 August 1945 the Radjiman committee was replaced by a committee for the preparation of independence, headed by Sukarno and Hatta, and consisting of twenty members representing a cross-section of opinions and interests of the nation as a whole. Sensing that the great event, fervently yearned for so long, was near, Sukarno, in a now famous speech, referring to the prophesies of Djojobojo an ancient Javanese king who had foretold the demise of Dutch colonial rule, told the Indonesian people that the country would be free before the corn would ripen.
On 8 August, Sukarno, Hatta and Radjiman were flown to Japanese headquarters in Saigon to be told by Marshal Terauchi that Indonesia would be granted its independence in the immediate future and urged them to speed up their preparations.
The Japanese occupation policies had engendered enormous psychological and social changes in Indonesian society shattering any chances for a return to the prewar colonial system. Indeed, the Japanese occupation meant much more than merely a change of colonial masters. In fact it proved to be a major watershed in modern Indonesian history in forging an entirely different dimension in the popular Indonesian mentality regarding colonialism and imperialism. It was particularly the younger generation that, unlike many of their elders, was absolutely opposed to the return of the Dutch colonial regime, which not only had lost all credibility and prestige by their 1942 defeat, but also was hated as a result of Japanese indoctrination and military training."
- C.L. Penders, 2002 see http://www.papuaweb.org/dlib/bk/penders2002/01.pdf
:Is there a point to this thread? Does the poster actually have a request? A succint statement of its intent would help. Merbabu 03:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sukarno

message: I have just added a citation for the claim that US diplomats admitted to providing a hit-list to Suharto, but the footnotes on this page are a bit of a mess, there are no <ref> tags used, and I can't find any reference to the system that is being used anywhere in the style guide.  If I'm being dense, could someone fix up what I've added, if I'm not then maybe someone could fix up the rest of the references on this page.
Dan 16:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnotes

message: Here  I found some interesting information on the abovementioned subject. Does anyone know more about Romusha? This guy was a big-fish collaborator, by accounts.
9 Mar 1943 : Putera ('Pusat Tenaga Rakyat') was set up with Sukarno as Chairman; however, his reputation was tarnished by his role in recruiting Romusha, a conscription of Indonesian laborers to serve the Japanese army, not only in Indonesia, but also in other parts of Southeast Asia (estimated that 270,000 romusha were sent Outer Islands and Japanese-held territories in Southeast Asia, but only 52,000 were repatriated to Java); Sukarno's collaboration with the Japanese gov't (who was hostile to the Allies) also brought into being a familiar refrain in his oratory 'Amerika kita setrika, Inggris kita linggis !'. Proudlyhumble07 06:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: David York, please stop trolling. Merbabu 09:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

text: mmhmm. What 'title' is there for enthusiastic collaboration with fascist and militarist occupiers? Oh, that's right, you get promised a good government job and the personal thanks of the Emperor for your thorough efforts in enslaving your countrymen ... & the (unofficial) 'title' of collaborator.Proudlyhumble07 08:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yet to hear a good reason why this person doesn't qualify as a collaborationist. If you wanted to nominate any person in Asia who exemplified the term, it would be this person.Proudlyhumble07 06:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: His notorious collaborationism with the Japanese occupiers

message: In other wiki pages on Indonesian history (then named "the owerthrow of Sukarno") I've provided several links to multiple sources that verify the US involvement in the Indonesian coup by Suharto against Sukarno. Even some of the CIA's own files on the matter have been available now for several years, journalists have written articles and documentaries have been made.British involvement alongside the US and  Quotes from the British ambassador/consul in Surabaya have been public knowledge for decades. Most notably on the subject is the documentary "New Rulers of The World" by award winning independent journalist and former BBC employee John Pilger. --217.144.240.250 22:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1965 Coup and massacres: U.S. and CIA involvement 

message: just a quick google: indonesia + massacre, gave several sources.
And if google is anything to go by with their system of putting links to the most linked to and accepted in a kind of peer reviewing system,and having them appear first these should not be to extreme for even wikipedia to swallow.
http://www.hrea.org/
http://www.hrea.org/lists/hr-headlines/markup/msg02504.html
http://www.hrsolidarity.net/mainfile.php/2005vol15no06/2463/
http://www.hrsolidarity.net/mainfile.php/2005vol15no06/2465/
http://skeptically.org/socialism/id17.html
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/indonesia1965/
http://www.ahrchk.net/index.php
(the asian human rights commisson)
INDONESIA: How the West backed the massacre of a million people
Clinton Fernandes 
The destruction of the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), 40 years ago following the seizure of power by pro-US military officers headed by General Suharto was a decisive event in the history of South-East Asia in the second half of the 20th century. 
By 1965, the PKI had three million members and was said to be the largest Communist party in the world outside of the Soviet Union and China. In addition to its large membership, about 15 million people had indirect connections to the party through their membership of peasant associations, labour unions and other social movement organisations led by PKI members. It was, according to a September 1, 1965, US National Intelligence Estimate, “by far the best organized and most dynamic entity in Indonesia”. 
Within a few months of the October 1, 1965, Suharto-organised military coup, however, the PKI would be destroyed in a cataclysmic campaign of political terror and mass murder carried out by the Indonesian armed forces (ABRI) and right-wing Islamic organisations.  
* According to a 1968 study by the CIA, “in terms of the numbers killed the anti-PKI massacres in Indonesia rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century, along with the Soviet purges of the 1930s, the Nazi mass murders during the Second World War, and the Maoist bloodbath of the early 1950s”. At least one million Indonesians were slaughtered in the anti-PKI massacres. 
Nowadays, of course, Western policy-makers are trying to rehabilitate the Indonesian military's reputation in order to fight Jemaah Islamiyah. 
This article, therefore, examines Western support for this anti-PKI terror campaign, which seriously weakened Indonesian political life and set the scene for the emergence of Islamic terrorism in the region. For reasons of space, it takes up the story after the massacres had commenced.  Once the killings were underway, Western policy-makers and diplomats were keen to support the ABRI. The problem they faced was that President Sukarno's previous anti-imperialist rhetoric had resonated strongly with the Indonesian public. Any overt support would therefore serve only to expose the Indonesian army as a tool of the West. 
Sukarno's towering reputation presented a significant obstacle. A deft touch was required. US ambassador Marshall Green understood that economic aid should not be offered because economic difficulties hurt the reputation of the civilian administration, not the army. His military contacts told him that there was an urgent need for food and clothing in Indonesia but it was more important to let Sukarno and his foreign minister, Subandrio, “stew in their own juice”. 
Western media coverage
The information campaign in support of the killings was created along similar principles. The ABRI secretly urged that foreign news broadcasters not give the army “too much credit” or criticise Sukarno. 
Instead, they should emphasise PKI “atrocities” and the party's role in the mutiny by left-wing ABRI officers that preceded the Suharto-led coup.  While Sukarno could not be directly attacked, an Indonesian general offered to provide Western agencies background information on foreign minister Subandrio, who was regarded as more vulnerable. 
Australian ambassador Keith Shann was told by his superiors that Radio Australia should never suggest that the ABRI was pro-Western or right-wing. Instead, credit for the anti-PKI campaign should be given to other organisations, such as Muslim and nationalist youth groups.  
Radio Australia had an important role to play because of its high signal strength and huge audience in Indonesia. Its listeners included the elite as well as students, who liked it because it played rock music, which had been officially banned. It was therefore told to “be on guard against giving information to the Indonesian people that would be withheld by the Army-controlled internal media”.  
The Australian ambassador worked to ensure that it gave “prominent coverage” to “reports of PKI involvement and Communist Chinese complicity” while playing down or not broadcasting “reports of divisions within the army specifically and armed services more generally”.           
Another senior official recommended that Radio Australia “not do anything which would be helpful to the PKI”. Instead, it “should highlight reports tending to discredit the PKI and show its involvement in the losing cause”. 
The US, Britain and Australia co-operated closely in the propaganda effort. Marshall Green urged Washington to “spread the story of PKI's guilt, treachery and brutality”, adding that this was “perhaps the most needed immediate assistance we can give army if we can find [a] way to do it without identifying it as [a] sole or largely US effort”.   
* The British Foreign Office hoped to “encourage anti-Communist Indonesians to more vigorous action in the hope of crushing Communism in Indonesia altogether”. Britain would emphasise “PKI brutality in murdering Generals and families, Chinese interference, particularly arms shipments, PKI subverting Indonesia as the agents of foreign Communists”.  
* British ambassador Sir Andrew Gilchrist wrote: “I have never concealed my belief that a little shooting in Indonesia would be an essential preliminary to effective change”. 
Throughout this period, Western radio stations continued to recycle stories from Radio Jakarta or the army newspapers and broadcast them back to Indonesia. US embassy officials established a back-channel link through the US army attache in Jakarta, who regularly met with an aide to Suharto ally General Haris Nasution. 
* The US embassy also compiled lists of PKI leaders and thousands of senior members and handed them over to the Indonesian military. While these kinds of lists were based entirely on previous reporting by the PKI's press, they proved invaluable to the military which seemed “to lack even the simplest overt information on PKI leadership at the time”, according to a report Green sent to Washington in August 1966. 
General Sukendro, a senior army intelligence officer, secretly approached the US embassy in early October 1965, asking for assistance in the army's operations against the PKI. 
This included supplying “small arms to arm Muslim and nationalist youths in Central Java for use against the PKI”.   
* Green authorised the provision of 50 million rupiahs to the Kap-Gestapu movement, which was leading the anti-PKI terror campaign. He advised the State Department that there was “no doubt whatsoever that Kap-Gestapu's activity is fully consonant with and coordinated by the army. We have had substantial intelligence reporting to support this.”   Overall, the US provided the ABRI with money, medicines, communications equipment, weapons and intelligence. It was satisfied with the return it received on this investment. 
On February 21, 1966, Sukarno tried to reshuffle his cabinet and sack General Nasution as defence minister. 
But with the public cowed in fear of the killings, Sukarno's attempt to assert his authority failed. There were large demonstrations backed by the army, and on March 11 soldiers mounted a show of force outside the presidential palace.  Sukarno signed a letter of authority handing over executive power to General Suharto. 
He remained president until 1967, continuing to defend the PKI and to speak out against the massacres and anti-Chinese racism that accompanied them. Without access to the media, however, his speeches failed to achieve political traction. 
*In the wake of the massacres, Indonesia's pre-eminent cultural and intellectual organisations — the Peoples' Cultural Institute, the National Cultural Institute, and the Indonesian Scholars' Association — were shut down, and many of their members were arrested or imprisoned.  
*More than one and a half million Indonesians passed through a system of prisons and prison camps.
The PKI was physically annihilated, and popular organisations associated with it were suppressed. 
* The whole of Indonesian society was forcibly depoliticised. In village after village, local bureaucrats backed by the army imposed a control matrix of permits, rules and regulations. Citizens were required to obtain a “letter of clean circumstances” certifying that they and their extended families had not been associated with the left before 1965. Indonesian society became devoted to the prevention of any challenge to elite interests. 
*Control of the universities, newspapers and cultural institutions was handed to conservative writers and intellectuals, who collaborated with Suharto's New Order regime and did not oppose the jailing of their left-wing cultural rivals. Along with the violence, certain cultural values were strongly promoted. Discussion of personal, religious and consumerist issues was encouraged, while discussion of politics was considered to be in bad taste. The conservative establishment also monopolised Indonesia's external cultural relations.
Suharto would rule for more than 30 years until a popular uprising and a crisis-ridden economy forced his resignation on May 21, 1998. 
 
[Dr Clinton Fernandes is a historian and author of Reluctant Saviour: Australia, Indonesia and the independence of East Timor (Scribe, 2004). He is currently a visiting fellow at the Australian National University.]213.172.204.59 16:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: sources on the indonesian massacres of 1965 

message: The entire second half of the introductory paragraph is spent talking about the name Sukarno. Given the wikipedia manual of style, this kind of trivia should really be saved forhte end of the article, especially that it does not concern history, or his life, or his impact on history. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.229.221.191 (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the whole 'Ahmad' thing may be something of a white elephant. Sukarno himself said he never used it, and I believe it was contrived by a journalist. I'll look up the reference when I have a moment, unless somebody beats me to it.. By the way, the previous poster has a point - what a dull intro 16:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro name sukarno 

message: The neutrality tag has a comment re a dispute - nothing yet? Just an edit summary that suggests it could have been written by Suharto himself.  So - sukarno and suharto articles are always good targets - lets see what happens next perhaps? SatuSuro 08:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd remove the tag if there is no explanation. Of course there might be well be issues and the articles in question do need work - but a snarky edit summary and "drive by" npov tags doesn't help anyone. --Merbabu (talk) 08:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal from power

message: I'm going to remove it - I've addressed the citation requests also provided (which seem to be the main cause of the concern, and legitimately). The less than helpful edit summary doesn't provide editors with anything else to go on.  
It seems the real problem, and the problem that can be easily fixed, is a lack of in-line citations (although I note the reasonably extensive bibliography list). Reasonable wikipedia editors will note that these are works in progress, the bulk of which is actually a number of years old. And, it is not likely that every article is going to be fixed overnight (throwing around balance tags is a lot easier than finding refs). If further specific citation issues are needed, they can be addressed through the appropriate citation request tags in a manageable and in a collaborative manner. Or, specific issues can be civilly raised on the talk page. --Merbabu (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: Please note I have just removed Achmed from the lead sentence - there is no need to provide the 'invention' that foreign journalists used in the 1950's for some odd reaso - his name has been in a number of variations as found in the lead paragraph - Achmad  never has been used by either Indonesians or general biographers of the person. SatuSuro 07:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sukarno's name

message: I have removed the reference to Sukarno's representing the Indonesian National Party. He did establish a party by that name in 1927, but it ceased to exist after his arrest and imprisonment. Later joined the Partindo. He was not a member of the short-lived Indonesian National Party in 1945, nor did he join the Indonesian National Party founded in 1946, but many Indoneisans continued to associate him with it as it had the same name as the pre-independence party. Davidelit (talk) 07:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Indonesian National Party]]

message: I'm interested in expanding the section about Soekarno's personal life. His first marriage with Utari Tjokroaminoto, his second marriage with Inggit Garnasih, his children, his affairs with a lot of women. And also his public image in Indonesia (as the great leader, great orator, hero of independence, but also dictator and a little bit womanizer). But I can't find the sources. Anyone interested in helping me?
In Harmonia Progressio! (talk) 03:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Two good books that discuss the more personal side of Sukarno are Sukarno: An Autobiography as told to Cindy Adams (1965) and My friend the Dictator (1967) (both by Cindy Adams). Another good source is Sukarno: A Political Biography  by J. D. Legge (also available in Indonesian as  Sukarno: sebuah biografi politik / John D. Legge (Sinar Harapan, 1985)) Selamat membaca! Davidelit (talk) 06:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

text: "A little bit womanizer"? He was one of the greatest womanisers the world has ever seen. The officials of the countries he visited always arranged special "parties" for him. He was infected with siphyllis when he was in Ankara, Turkey. When visiting Pakistan, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, then the foreign minister, got him the most "charming" stewardesses of PIA. Behemoth (talk) 10:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: Sukarno was not in jail in 1942, he was in exile in Sumatra.
Masalih (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Exile, not jail

message: I'm adding that romusha was forced labor. Why else would Sukarno have been ashamed of his involvement in it?
Masalih (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Romusha was forced labor

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message: Why show religion, it only shows 'Apartheid', Soekarno was in 'Unity', not deversion. Every human is equal!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmTheInsane (talk • contribs) 01:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? What on earth is your point? --Merbabu (talk) 02:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: Note 27 says "Hughes (2002), p.21." Nowhere in the reference list or the notes is there a title or full author's name given for "Hughes (2002)."Redound (talk) 02:18, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted, thanks. I fixed it. :) --Merbabu (talk) 03:53, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note 27 

message: Gedung Proklamasi, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 232.jpg|Gedung Proklamasi
Hartini Sukarno with Norodom Sihanouk and wife, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 253.jpg|Hartini Sukarno with Norodom Sihanouk and wife
John F Kennedy greeting Sukarno, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 249.jpg|John F. Kennedy greeting Sukarno
Sang Saka Merah Putih being flown for the first time, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 232.jpg|Sang Saka Merah Putih being flown for the first time
Soldiers marching around Sukarno, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 238.jpg|Soldiers marching around Sukarno
Sukarno and cabinet at press conference (1945), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 233.jpg|Sukarno and cabinet at press conference (1945)
Sukarno and Cindy Adams, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat, Rear Cover.jpg|Sukarno and Cindy Adams
Sukarno and council in front of Bandung Court, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 227.jpg|Sukarno and council in front of Bandung Court
Sukarno inspecting scouts, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 256.jpg|Sukarno inspecting scouts
Sukarno and family, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 240.jpg|Sukarno and family
Sukarno and Fatmawati making radio contact with Bukittinggi, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 235.jpg|Sukarno and Fatmawati making radio contact with Bukittinggi
Sukarno and friends in exile in Flores, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 229.jpg|Sukarno in exile in Flores
Sukarno and Hatta before exile (1948), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 235.jpg|Sukarno and Mohammad Hatta before exile (1948)
Sukarno and his father, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 231.jpg|Sukarno and his father
Sukarno as HBS student (1916), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 225.jpg|Sukarno as HBS student (1916)
Sukarno as university student, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 226.jpg|Sukarno as university student
Sukarno at Istana Merdeka (1949), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 239.jpg|Sukarno at Istana Merdeka (1949)
Sukarno at Maguwo airfield (1949), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 237.jpg|Sukarno at Maguwo airfield (1949)
Sukarno being made President of RIS, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 238.jpg|Sukarno being made President of RIS
Sukarno dancing with Megawati, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 255.jpg|Sukarno dancing with Megawati Sukarnoputri
Sukarno dancing with Moluccans, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 247.jpg|Sukarno dancing with Moluccans
Sukarno gardening, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 254.jpg|Sukarno gardening
Sukarno giving a speech, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 242.jpg|Sukarno giving a speech
Sukarno in exile in Bengkulu, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 229.jpg| Sukarno in exile in Bengkulu
Sukarno in line to vote (1955), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 243.jpg|Sukarno in line to vote (1955)
Sukarno in Palembang, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 245.jpg|Sukarno in Palembang
Sukarno on the hajj, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 242.jpg|Sukarno on the hajj
Sukarno reading the proclamation, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 233.jpg|Sukarno reading the proclamation
Sukarno receiving adat honor, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 251.jpg|Sukarno receiving adat honor
Sukarno receiving honorary PHD, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 250.jpg|Sukarno receiving honorary PHD
Sukarno riding horse at Army celebration (1946), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 234.jpg|Sukarno riding horse at Army celebration (1946)
Sukarno riding litter in Bali, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 247.jpg|Sukarno riding litter in Bali
Sukarno speaking at Grand Indonesia Conference, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 228.jpg|Sukarno speaking at Grand Indonesia Conference
Sukarno speaking to romusha, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 230.jpg|Sukarno speaking to romusha
Sukarno talking with Sudirman and TB Simatupang, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 237.jpg|Sukarno talking with Sudirman and TB Simatupang
Sukarno visiting family in Blitar, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 227.jpg|Sukarno visiting family in Blitar
Sukarno with adat people in West Kalimantan, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 252.jpg|Sukarno with adat people in West Kalimantan
Sukarno with Agus Salim in Prapat (1948), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 236.jpg|Sukarno with Agus Salim in Prapat (1948)
Sukarno with cakalele dancers, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 252.jpg|Sukarno with cakalele dancers
Sukarno with dancers in Ende, Flores, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 245.jpg|Sukarno with dancers in Ende, Flores
Sukarno with Eleanor Roosevelt, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 239.jpg|Sukarno with Eleanor Roosevelt
Sukarno with Guntur at Disneyland, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 243.jpg|Sukarno with Guntur at Disneyland
Sukarno greeting dancers in Waingapu, Ambon, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 246.jpg|Sukarno greeting dancers in Waingapu, Ambon
Sukarno with his mother, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 241.jpg|Sukarno with his mother
Sukarno with Mao Zedong, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 244.jpg|Sukarno with Mao Zedong
Sukarno with Papuan leaders (1963), Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 244.jpg|Sukarno with Papuan leaders (1963)
Interesting collection of pictures. May be useful — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sukarno

message: Considering all the attempts on his life and the role the US played in helping Suharto, it's definitely of interest to include this.
--84.210.102.191 (talk) 07:05, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Where? I want to read them. Neocorelight (Talk) 06:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newest CIA files on Kennedy show the US considered assassinating Sukarno.   

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message: His name is written Soekarno, even in Indonesian it's written that way. The Indonesian spelling changed, but not the spelling of names prior to that spelling change. --Wester (talk) 18:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope - for the last 15 years or so the spelling issue flares on this page or preceding, and it goes on and on, assertions either way tend to attract a very circular and endless and pointless waste of time, please leave alone. JarrahTree 05:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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message: A search on Sukarno's finances was not enlightening.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.75.119.235 (talk) 17:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finances 

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