Talk:Big Brother (TV series)/Archive 1

message: I think there should be more mention to this.
also in the latest season in the uk, "Big Brother" often repeated
"And remeber Big Brother is always watching"Slayerx675 12:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refences to 1984 

message: The paragraph about Merlin's refugee protest was removed, see this edit:  .  I think it deserves some mention, but I can see where the anon editor was coming from as it surely isn't the only notable event in the four season history of the show.    I guess the whole Aussie section needs a bit more content.  I was going to re-instate it but thought I would leave it up for discussion.  Chuq 04:58, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Big Brother section 

message: I don't know about you Pabs, but "Pinoy" does not mean "from the Philippines," by a colloquial word for "Filipino (man)." Just ask the man on the street. And it is always stressed that the name of the Philippine version is "Pinoy Big Brother." Why are you stressing that the Philippine version is just called "Big Brother"?
The official name of the Philippine version of the series is Pinoy Big Brother, and not Big Brother itself. Please don't change it unless you can prove otherwise. Circa 1900 08:42, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, the term "Pinoy Big Brother" is used throughout their website, where the other versions would simply use "Big Brother". Thanks/wangi 13:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can say for 100% that the official title is Pinoy Big Brother, as opposed to international versions. It is just as much as different title as "Loft Story". Bluejam 17:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  First, how should we define "local title"? Is it the mere translation of "Big Brother" into the local language? Or is it by how the locals themselves call the program? We need to have a consensus on the matter. Circa 1900 05:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good point. From what I've seen around the world, many non-English speaking countries still use "Big Brother" as the title. Then there's the Spanish speaking countries who use "Gran Hermano" and the French version "Loft Story". "Pinoy Big Brother" is used as the standard title of the programme in the Phillipines, which is why I think it goes alongside these others, I don't see why there's a column for "Local Name" if the proper name isn't put under it. Bluejam 12:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the current standards will be used, I suggest we'd change the heading from "Local Name" to "Local language translation" or something to that effect. Circa 1900 17:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it "Pinoy Big Brother" or just "Big Brother" ?

message: I have found plenty of Right criticisms of BB, but am finding it difficult to locate any left wing/intellectual critique of BB. Perhaps someone could add some useful anti-BB links.
Thanks. 
-Ash.
:Didn't the contestants in the first Spanish one successfully organise a threat to all leave and Big Brother had to back down on a request? I remember seeing this on a documentary in the UK on the BB phenomenon ages ago. Most contestants seem to obey these days. Apart from Ahmed in Series 5.--Darrelljon 22:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And wasn't all of Galloway's speeches cut out of CBB.--Darrelljon 20:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left/Right criticisms 

message: The template  is being considered for deletion.  To participate in the discussion go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Big Brother USA season 6 background.  This template is included in all of the bio articles for Big Brother USA season 6.  --Rob 08:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Template:Big Brother USA season 6 background]] considered for deletion 

message: Can the Big Brother series be viewed as a category of tontine?
Jackiespeel 16:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only by really stretching the definition, since the "winner" of a tontine has literally survived the others, not just failed to be voted out of the group.  Rlquall 17:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Big Brother and tontines

message: Those familiar with the topic, may wish to discussion possible deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belinda Thorpe (2nd nomination).  --Rob 19:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother contestant [[Belinda Thorpe]] up for deletion 

message: I think we need to change the picture in the upper right hand corner.  It is commonplace for TV series to have their logo's displayed in Wikipedia, and that map does not show anything.  It says it highlights the countries that show Big Brother, but it doesn't denote what color it is for the country to have the show.  Just looking at the map tells you nothing, plus it's too small to be useful where it is. Anybody else have an opinion?  --134.124.63.228 05:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the picture 

message: I'm not exactly sure of why, but for some reason, every time I add "Upcoming Season" to the List of Winners, it is deleted. There are already several verifiable sources that could cite that there will be a BB season this summer. FireSpike 00:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is U.S. Big Brother in "Around the World" changed? 

message: Why not place all the winners' names in the article's table? For me, I think that it would be more encyclopedic if all the names of the winners from special seasons, such as Teen Big Brother, Celebrity Big Brother are placed there, albeit in italics. What do you think?
--User:Matthewprc 04:36, 02 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Table

message: The current Big Brother (Czech TV series) might well be a hoax, but that is not a reason for linking instead to a foreign wp - :cs:Big Brother. We need to tidy up the English language Wikipedia article. /wangi 14:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Czech version is called Veľky Brať (Big Brother), so totally useless page.ZlatkoT 09:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please edit and improve the article - Velký Bratr now redirects to the article. Thanks/wangi 09:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech BB 

message: Would it be encyclopedic to note that, despite the obvious, that apparently for copyright purposes, each show contains a disclaimer that the series is not based upon George Orwell's 1984 (even though that is obviously where the phrase, "Big Brother is watching you" originated?  Rlquall 17:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never seen this on an episode of Big Brother UK, or Big Brother Australia. JD 20:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've neither seen that disclaimer on any episode of BB Aust., nor have I heard that phrase being used on the show. Asa01 21:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase "Big Brother will be watching" is used on BB UK occasionally, spoken by Big Brother him/herself; although the presenters rarely say it.  I haven't ever heard "Big Brother is watching you" though.  JD 22:19, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In any event, disclaimers like the one mentioned above do not excuse productions from copyright law. I don't know too much about whether a single phrase would fall under copyright law, but if it did, then that would also apply to the words Big Brother itself in the shows title. The producers would merely pay royalities. They already spend big $$$$ making the show so could probably afford it. Asa01 20:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1984 

message: Does anyone know what this actually means? It makes little sense to me. Should we allow it? Expand on it? Keep removing it? -- 9cds(talk) 14:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I expect they mean that as well as normal evictions, there were also ejected for rule-breaking and people deciding to leave (I know one housemate left because their father was ill) but this surely can't the first time this happened. Bluejam 15:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "All ways you can leave house" 

message: Do, or have in the past, more than one country use a similar theme for their own Big Brother series?  I'm sure the theme the US series had for their first season is similar to Germany or some other country like that.  --JDtalkemail 18:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother themes 

message: I added Big Brother Aus's Friday Night Live to the peculiarities section, and it has been removed a couple of times on the basis that it's also used in other series. I don't know that much about the non-Australian series of Big Brother, but checking around the other articles the only thing I can see that is similar is the USA's Head of Household, which still seems fairly different from FNL. In any case, I think it's individual enough to warrant a mention in the peculiarities section. Cyclone49 14:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Friday Night Live 

message: I was thinking about renaming the Big Brother pages, so that they are closer to the official names, and so they aren't unnecessarily long.  Something like Big Brother Australia 6, or Big Brother 6 Australia.  What do other people think?  --JD[don't talk|email] 15:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fine, but the latter of the two you suggested, with the country name at the end... ellisjm 15:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: D'you mean instead of Big Brother (UK), just Big Brother UK?? If so, fine... ellisjm 15:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah.  --JD[don't talk|email] 15:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree - a lot of work for what benefit? Surely they call it "Big Brother" in Oz, not "Big Brother Australia"? See WP:NAME also. If you do go ahead I would not take agreement here as enough - you'll need to at least discuss on each article page / use WP:RM. Thanks/wangi 15:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The official name is Big Brother Australia, not Big Brother.  I understand the normal way to name a television article is to have the name of the show, then the country after it; but the country is already in the show's official name.  --JD[don't talk|email] 15:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well their website seems to refer to it simply as "Big Brother", as does our article. /wangi 15:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I contacted Endemol a while ago, and they informed me that, for Big Brother Australia at least, the real name is Big Brother Australia.  It's like Rove Live: people call it Rove, but it's real name is Rove Live.  Just an example, though.  --JD[don't talk|email] 15:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming the Big Brother pages 

message: A straw poll is taking place on this page about whether the current infobox used on Big Brother series articles should stay, or if the one previously in use should be used again.  Users are encouraged to vote, but are not obligated to.  If you have the time, please look at the straw poll.  --JD[don't talk|email] 21:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The infobox's usage on Big Brother articles 

message: why does someone keep deleting my entry confirming the production of the indian big brother in nov 2006? it is true, and i have proof!
: Every news report I have seen is that BB India in November will be a Celebrity Big Brother, so the details are on the Celebrity/VIP page. If you have proof that it is going to be a normal BB with members of the public, can you provide the link here. Thanks. Grahamuk 17:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  well it might be just with Celebrities but why shouldn't they change the rules a little bit for their own country? if there will never be an indian season with normal people will you never include this? the usa had changed the rules of BB and are still included, in most countries "Celebrity Big Brother" is a special season but it seems that in India they are going with this as their regular format - this will be their first and original season and so it should be included, deal with it. Shameless 11:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  bb india 

message: Anjelica Freij was the first woman to win Big Brother in December 2000. That was more than a year after the first Big Brother show started. Why shouldn't we include this fact?
:Because women are not inferior to men in the game of Big Brother, and the fact that a female winner wasn't announced in the first year wasn't because of any rule or impediment, except for getting evicted instead of saved.  talk to JD wants e-mail 22:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First female to win BB