Talk:Holy Saturday

message: I'm de-wikifying some of the recent links that were put in.  I'm sorry, but I really think this is over-doing it.  Do we really need to link ordinary English words like "flowers" "leaves" and such?  I think not. Csernica 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking 

message: And another thing -- "Greek" was rewiki'd to "Greek Orthodox" which isn't a helpful choice.  First, it resulted in a redirect to "Greek Orthodox Church", so that's where it should have gone directly.  Second, it contains no helpful content.  It's a disambiguation page where you can find links to both the Orthodox Church of Constantinople and the autocephalous Church of Greece among others, none of which fell within the meaning intened to be conveyed by "Greek".  Rather it is supposed to mean those Churches within a Hellenic "sphere of influence", particularly those that still use Greek as an official liturgical language even when it stands alongside others such as Arabic in the Orthodox Church of Jerusalem.  The choice for the more general disambiguation page Greek was therefore made deliberately, and the new link was actually less informative.  The point is to please take the trouble to understand what you're doing before you start throwing links all over the place. Csernica 04:10, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek 

message: The link here from Easter says it is also called "Silent Saturday". Is this correct, or should the Easter page be changed?Chunkyrice 13 21:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silent Saturday 

message: I'm not sure that the reference cited for Easter Eve as an alternative is used appropriately here. The link is to a complaint made to the Australian Broadcasting Commission about the phrase 'Easter Saturday' being used to describe the day; the complainant says "the correct use is Easter Eve". The ABC agrees that "Easter Saturday" is incorrect usage (true in religious terms if not in commmon Australian parlance), but doesn't say anything about 'Easter Eve' itself. It's a good reference for demonstrating how Australians use the term 'Easter Saturday' (and is used in that context elsewhere on Wikipedia), but in terms of demonstrating that 'Easter Eve' is a common alternative, it basically amounts to just one radio listener's opinion. A better reference for the broader use of the term 'Easter Eve' should be sought, I think. Thoughts? Gusworld (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you're right. The reference is an important one for demonstrating the incorrect use of "Easter Saturday", but we need better support for "Easter Eve". For that matter, we should have a reference for the "Black Saturday" usage. StAnselm (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, that reference is not supportive of the text.  I suggest the unsupported words be removed, with the link, leaving only words that are used in the rest of the text. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:26, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter Eve reference 

message: Article currently says
:Holy Saturday is sometimes mistakenly referred to as Easter Saturday
with the following reference:
:For example, the New South Wales Public Holidays Act 2010
There is no source given for the assertion that the name "Easter Saturday" is mistaken; indeed, the reference given is evidence that it isn't mistaken at all - the name "Easter Saturday" is the official legal name of the day in the State of New South Wales, Australia, and is also (in my experience) the name by which the day is commonly known in Australia. This website by the Australian Federal government uses that name to refer to the day, and notes that it is a legal public holiday under that name in ACT,NSW,NT,Qld,SA,Vic (but not Tas or WA). So this is the legal name of the day in most of Australia. So I cannot see how the name can be mistaken when it is enshrined by Australian law and recognised by Australian governments. So I am going to delete the adverb "mistakenly" as unjustified. SJK (talk) 09:00, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The state governments in Australia have simply chosen to enact something into law which is unrecognized generally. The churches have never named it so, and it is in reference (and relation) to the church calendar. It is a mistaken usage, except where mandated by a mistaken law. WP must give precedence to wider recognition, which it does in the second paragraph of the lead, where it also does mention the peculiarities in Australia. Evensteven (talk) 21:06, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  No evidence provided for article's claim that the name "Easter Saturday" is incorrect 

message: I'm not confident enough to overturn this recent edit, but it seems to me questionable that a tag is needed here. Especially under emergency circumstances, it seems to me that the local bishop would be the primary authority any Catholic would turn to in questions of how the Church would operate. And it also seems to me that kind of authority of governance is very widely shared in Christendom, Orthodox or Catholic; it used to be much more pronounced even in American Anglicanism than it is today. Surely the Pope could grant the dispensation, but wouldn't it be the local bishop who would seek one from him if he thought it necessary? Others would ask the local bishop first, yes? So, why is this detail so questionable that it requires a citation? Evensteven (talk) 18:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, upon reflection, I'm more confident than that. Is this tag question not simply a matter of time-blindness, caused by modern developments in transportation and communication? Consider a similar situation 200, or even 150 years ago. It would have been unthinkable to have to apply to the Vatican, months away, for such a dispensation. How did the Church handle such things then? Does it not have a tradition that a bishop exercises all authority within his diocese/see? Higher authority exists, yes, but not immediately, not in emergencies or unforeseen circumstances. Throughout most of its history, the Church, facing such a thing locally, would have placed its guidance in the hands of its bishop, and any problems would have been dealt with after the fact as questions of ecclesiastical discipline. The real question here is: has Church governance changed in the last 150-200 years to such an extent? I would argue that the local bishop's authority to grant a dispensation remains intact as a necessity of governance. Even today's communications can be knocked out for a time. Therefore, I am removing the tag from the article. If anything needs a citation to back something up, I think it would be a claim that the local bishop does NOT have such authority. Evensteven (talk) 19:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western practice: new "citation needed" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I added a globalize/western tag because the article seems to focus primarily on Roman Catholic perspectives of Holy Saturday in its content and not enough of the Eastern Orthodox perspective.--Sıgehelmus  (Talk) |д=) 00:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthodox perspective 

message: This article lists a number of alternative names for Holy Saturday, but does not include In Between Saturday. I could be wrong, but I thought I heard some one BBC Radio Four saying that this day is also known as In Between Saturday.Vorbee (talk) 18:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: In between Saturday

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message: Holy Saturday is traditionally known as "White Saturday" (Bílá / Biela sobota) in Czechia and Slovakia. Since the Portuguese and Filipino names are mentioned, why not these? Should I add those to the article?
State laws or similar documents in Czechia and Slovakia make no mention of the Holy Saturday, since it's not a designated holiday of any kind. The name White Saturday is used by various Christian churches in both countries, although in 2022 the Roman Catholic Church in Slovakia announced an official renaming of this day to Svätá sobota (Holy Saturday) , in accordance with the original Latin version used worldwide.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnyjanko (talk • contribs) 09:35, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Czech and Slovak?? 

message: UPDATE:  I went ahead and edited it, deleting the statement that says it is the last day of fasting for Catholics in the Philippines.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaivineOrodrim (talk • contribs) 17:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Saturday