Talk:Toastmasters International

message: Can you give me more info about what your issue is with this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toastmasters_International&diff=886680418&oldid=886670911 ? Is it the first part or the second part (or both) that you have a problem with? They both have citations. I would like to re-add a section about Distinguished Toastmaster (DTM) as I originally stumbled upon this page from a link to -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toastmasters_International#Distinguished_Toastmaster however that section no longer exists (since you removed it a while back). It seems there are a few places linking to it, so can you give me more info as to what would be ok to add to define what it is? I think it doesn't get any more plain than "The Distinguished Toastmaster (DTM) award is the highest educational award given out by Toastmasters International." User9342 (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gutted article!!! (2)

message: I propose that we edit the meeting format section to follow the three part structure of meetings. We would have prepared speeches, table topics, and evaluations. Leaving evaluations out fails to highlight this critical component of the meeting and the nature of an educational organization. 
Additionally, after these three, we could highlight common variants like debates, facilitated discussion, etc. Philoserf (talk) 18:43, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest instead that you remove it. This article reads as an advertisement. Guy (help!) 21:06, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meeting Format section 

message: Is Toastmasters the only organisation for speakers, or are there others?  FreeFlow99 (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @FreeFlow99 There are other organizations, profit and non-profit, but Toastmasters is the oldest notable one I am aware of. I’ll comment further on your Talk page, then if that leads to an edit for this article we can bring it back. D1doherty (talk) 16:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative similar speaker organisations 

message: Someone keeps adding Smedley Chapter One back into the article and putting it in bold. It should be considered an ad/spam.
The statement that Toastmasters International "grew out of a single club, Smedley Chapter One Club" IS FALSE. The first club was NOT named that in 1924. It later adopted that name around 1977 - 1979. Originally, it was just the Toastmasters Club and was given "No. 1" after additional clubs were formed. It's inaccurate to state Toastmasters International grew out of "Smedley Chapter One Club" as that was NOT the name of the club back then.
Even when clubs started going by specific names, that first club was referred to as "Smedley No. One" (NOT "Chapter")
Sources that use the EXACT name "Smedley No. One":
* The Toastmaster May 1951 Volume 17 No 5
* The 1953 Directory of Clubs
* The Toastmasters Special Directory Issue January 1960 Volume 26 No 1A
* The Toastmaster October 1974 Volume 40 No 10
* The Toastmaster September 1976 Volume 42 No 9
Based on the documents I can find, that club only started being known as "Smedley Chapter One" sometime between 1977 and 1979. The Toastmaster January 1980 refers to the club as "Smedley Chapter One" (and it is still known by that name).
Regardless, there's no reason to put the name "Smedley Chapter One" in the article as that WAS NOT what the club was known by in 1924. Toastmasters International did not grow out of anything named "Smedley Chapter One".
-- ProfessionalCost (talk) 03:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smedley Chapter One Edits 

message: Hi @User:Larry Hockett, I notice you reverted a correction without comment. What was your concern? The newsletter cited as the source for info about the first international club is incorrect. How can we fix the TI article?
The TI website  says TI was incorporated in 1932 and the first international club was chartered in 1935 (First Canadian #38 in Victoria).
ref: https://www.toastmasters.org/About/History
As I understand it, there was a club started in Vancouver in 1932, but it did not charter.
Wikipedia requires independent reliable sources, so I don’t think we can just quote the TI site. 
A volunteer historian wrote a book about the history of “The club that made Toastmasters truly international.” He is connected with other TI historians. There are articles cited in his book. I’ve asked him to provide his sources.
Does this address your concern about this edit? D1doherty (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  First international club 

message: Help please! The link in reference 2 is broken. I have added and edited references in the past, but am now not seeing how to do this.
I've looked in Help and on the web. I've tried on iMac (MAC OS) and iPhone & iPad (iOS) in Chrome and Safari.
1. When I hover over the citation I see no EDIT button associated with the ref, just an option 'cog'
2. Using iOS, an older version of the ref list is displayed when I click on [edit] in the in the reference section.
New link for ref 2 is https://www.toastmasters.org/About/ D1doherty (talk) 17:32, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to edit references?