Talk:In Flames

message: "In Flames is a Swedish melodic death metal band from Gothenburg, formed in 1990. Since the band's conception in 1993" ...
"In Flames was founded in the year 1993" ...
130.233.243.229 (talk) 17:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formed when exactly? 

message: I see we don't have a genre thing for them in the lead and it just says "is a band". I think having heavy metal in the lead shouldn't be a problem. Yes there is a debate on their exact sub-genre, whether they're melodic death or alternative metal, but there is no argument one whether or not they're heavy metal as both of those are sub-genres of heavy metal. Ximmerman (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding heavy metal in the lead 

message: I believe that people simply need to end this drama about the genre. If you don't like the new music, don't listen to it. I personally love all of it, and I saw In Flames live on the 14th of November, this 2008 and it was amazing. That is all. (199.126.174.197 (talk) 04:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ending the "alternative metal" discussion once and for all

message: Well, it took me a couple weeks longer than I expected, but I got it done complete with cited sources. I re-wrote the entire article from scratch and researched the band as if I had never heard of them before. Upon doing research I discovered that the old article contained quite a bit of libel. You might notice some big changes in the re-write, but I assure you that I did not add anything to the article if I could not find various reliable sources supporting it. Also, I did not add opinions about the band's genre, I only added facts. Wikipedia articles are not forums and are not the place to write useless debateable junk like "some of In Flames' older fans think that they have sold out with their most recent albums". Anyways, I hope this re-write helps re-educate a few people about this band and if you have any questions about the re-write feel free to ask. By the way, I also rewrote the In Flames discography page and Template:In Flames to coincide with the rewrite of this article. --Leon Sword 09:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I must say, it looks great.  Alot more informational and ( .Y. ) well it's great, good job. -- Shatterzer0 17:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I Like this article, although i pretty much agree In flames are sellouts, its not really something you should place in an encyclopedia article. But a mention about their genre change would be nice.123.252.188.96 13:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well there's a problem with saying that In Flames changed genres; it's very debateable. I agree with most other people that In Flames doesn't play the same as they used to, but I also agree with most other people that In Flames is still a melodeath band, especially since In Flames is one of melodeath's pioneers and thus they set/are setting the standards of the genre. Currently the article has a good section that explains some of the changes the band has made musically without being POV and it's cited. I don't think we need to add a POV statement. --Leon Sword 02:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done on the article --Childzy ¤ Talk 10:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The complete re-write

message: Something needs to be put in about there new album, they are already half way through recording and have pre-released one of thier new songs which can be found here http://www.vivalabands.com/cd.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.157.147 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is something about the new album already in there. I would have added more but In Flames have been awfully secretive about their new album so there is not much more that could be added for now. However, as soon as reliable relevant information starts showing up you can be assured it will show up here. By the way I have yet to see a confirmation that the "Abegnation" song will even be on the album. --Leon Sword 16:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New album

message: This is not sourced, and not wholly true. Carcass played a huge part with Heartwork. I have a source for that right here. http://www.maximummetal.com/columns/tales/37.asp--Wick3dd (talk) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Carcass was one of the first bands to release what is now considered a melodeath album, but what they did barely scratched the surface. In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, and At the Gates were the bands that truly pushed further the genre and made it what it is. These three bands are the most often referenced to as the pioneers of melodeath, this is a pretty well known fact and I do have multiple sources available supporting that. Also Carcass was not the first melodeath band nor did they produce the first melodeath album, in fact, both In Flames and Dark Tranquillity recorded their debut studio albums at the same time Carcass recorded Heartwork. Furthermore, Sentenced, who was also one of the first bands to release a melodeath album, also happened to release their North from Here album in 1993 and At the Gates also happened to release an album that year. Anyways, Carcass was very much like Sentenced , they experimented with different genres, stumbled into melodeath for a while but then moved on. Both Carcass and Sentenced contributed to melodeath, but their contributions were small when compared to the contributions of In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, and At the Gates. Carcass and Sentenced would be much more appropriately mentioned as pioneers in the melodeath article, not here. --Leon Sword (talk) 23:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pioneered melodeath? 

message: It's listed on 2 of their albums, but it's not "allowed" on the band page, why? Alternative metal describes a large change in the band's style during the latter part of their career, and yet it's not even listed.  Anyone want to explain why?72.72.222.152 (talk) 00:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter! The infobox doesn't support the genre field anymore. = ∫tc 5th Eye 23:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Metal? 

message: Yes, yes, yes.  They're melodic death metal I know, I know. What I'm writing this for is to account for the *OTHER* genres that this band uses, or really the only other genre this band really plays; alternative metal.  They have one album (soundtrack to your escape) that is completely alt metal, and some of their other albums show traits, influences, and whole musical sections where alt metal is prominant.  And yet still, still it keeps getting reverted.  
Let the genre wars begin?  Or else give me a reason why alt. metal should not be in the genre box.  Zaruyache (talk) 01:32, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide a source and we'll have no problem. Rehevkor ✉ 01:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I shouldn't have to check any source that is not attached the the item in question. People aren't psychic. Cite it or it'll get removed. It's not hard.  Rehevkor ✉ 01:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Not quite. The link just gives an error. Also consider using the cite web template. Rehevkor ✉ 02:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre, again! 

message: I accept that they've got incontrovertible elements of Alternative Metal, but Nu Metal? Seriously? Where are the traces of Hip Hop, Rapcore and Grunge required to identify a band as being Nu Metal, then? Are they part of the Nu Metal scene? No, of course not! Nu metal is bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Disturbed - the music sounds totally different! I've got nothing against Nu Metal, but In Flames are so far from being Nu Metal, its insane!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.47.5 (talk) 15:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nu Metal? WTF!

message: I deleted the uncited lines saying they're working on a new album, since there weren't any sources sited and the Official Website didn't say anything of the sort. Feel free to put it back up if you have a link. En.Loss (talk) 3:44, 03 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We have this as of writing. Rehevkor ✉ 15:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Claims of a New Album

message: All the data was deleted from Nuclear Blast and when you search them on news you find this link of new dates(http://www.nuclearblast.de/en/label/music/news/details/74370.in-flames-announce-new-tourdates.html) from the A Sense of Purpose Tour. In linked bands theres only In Flames in it,but when you click on the link the page says that Data could not be found. does this mean they are no longer signed by nuclear blast or just a informatic mistake?
BTW. Im kinda new over discussion pages so i dont know how to put my username and all that. but my user name is Danyxy13 and i registered on the Spanish wiki.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danyxy13 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless a reliable source picks up on this there's not much we can do here. It'd be original research to put anything in the article based on your finds here i.e. we can't jump to any conclusions. Rehevkor ✉ 15:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

text: well i guess i was sure about it lol :P in flames is in century media now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danyxy13 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Nuclear Blast

message: I'm aware that British articles are written with "are" preferred over writing "is" when dealing with organizations (i.e: are a band) but for Swedish articles on bands, what format would it apply to in that case? I'm seeing a bit of inconsistency to be honest, some bands have it "are a band" while others as "is a band". • GunMetal Angel 06:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are/is 

message: Anyone feel like adding a discography and chart positions?  Skinsmoke (talk) 05:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: any idea, i previously added the band members but it was reverted. Nicrorus (talk) 04:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I didn't have a problem with having the band members there, although I don't think the instruments are necessary. A mention of Strömblad having left recently, having been the founder of the band, would be appropriate too. Maybe a sentence on how they've gone from melodic death metal to whatever it is they are now? A sentence about having won four Grammis to date doesn't seem unreasonable either. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 06:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sentences describing'em as one of the pioners of the Gothenburg metal who later would be know as melodic death metal and a descritiopn of the sound of the band don't seem innapropiate either, anything else missing? Nicrorus (talk) 00:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see anything in the article that says they were pioneers of "Gothenburg metal", but mentioning than they helped to pioneer melodic death metal would be fine (as that is mentioned in the article). MrMoustacheMM (talk) 02:50, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that i said that they were one of the pioners, still, i don't see what's wrong with pointing wich instrument is played by who in the band. Nicrorus (talk) 01:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's unnecessary information for the lead. If someone wants to know that, they can easily click on the Members section. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 00:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding introduction paragraphs 

message: Their new stuff isn't melodic death metal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.88.116.227 (talk) 17:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is why "alternative metal" is also in the infobox. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 00:17, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre

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message: Genre of the In Flames musical style-You guys really don't know something about metal music..In Flames is melodic death metal band...for death metal are typical extreme vocals..which that is not in heavy metal..poor guys-learn something about it first,then start with editing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.22.232 (talk • contribs)  15:00, July 20, 2015
:Rather than giving your personal analysis, what you need to do is point to a published source that says In Flames is only melodic death metal, or mainly/primarily melodic death metal. Otherwise, the general classification of heavy metal works just fine, especially when :Template:Infobox musical artist says that genres should be general. Binksternet (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Death metal is certainly a sub-genre of heavy metal. Have you read any books on the topic? All x metal genres are sub-genres of heavy metal. Binksternet (talk) 19:24, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre again

message: Hello! well I'm sorry for that what I said..it's makes me sad..but back to the thema..you're right guys,they playing heavy metal also..but in start it was melodic-death metal band..also those older albums say it all..we should find compromis...I think for the main title there should be wroted it is melodic-death metal band..in genres there should be heavy and industrial metal! What do you think about it..? FenixSVK (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that any argument about the musical style of the band must point to reliable published sources which discuss the musical style. Do you have any of these in mind? Binksternet (talk) 15:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The musical style of In Flames.. 

message: Hey guys ! why bands like Slayer or Metallica are trash metal bands ? But that's sub-genres of heavy metal ! Go and change it right now ! FenixSVK (talk • contribs) 20:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The genre included in the lead section and the genres included in the infobox and/or the musical style section are two different things. There should only be one genre in the lead and it is often used to summarise all genres a band has been called. In this case, both melodic death metal and alternative metal are based in heavy metal, so heavy metal is used in the lead to summarise even if no one calls In Flames a traditional heavy metal band.--MASHAUNIX 14:58, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Allmusic review on Siren Charms states that the band shifted away from their melodic death metal style for "progressive alternative metal" sound. Other than this, I also couldn't find anything. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 10:52, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Can we please go through with the infobox change? Right now the genres in the article make 0 sense. The lead says they are a melodeath band, but the infobox lists heavy metal (which contradicts the references given) and alternative metal. It is high time to change heavy metal to melodeath in the infobox; other changes can be discussed after.--MASHAUNIX 14:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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message: Someone add a better infobox photo where you can clearly see faces. This current one sucks! Mark Coatsworth (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox photo 

message: I have a citation for some material I wish to add to the article, but the URL is dead. I have found it on Wayback Machine, but it's one of those links that doesn't change when you click from the main page to their bio page.(here's the link ) I was going to use it to expand the lead section as shown in the Polish-language version of the article. Does anyone know if you can add an extra note to the citation to let readers know what you'd have to do? I mean, it's valid info, but I want to keep it from being potentially argued over/removed. dannymusiceditor  ~talk to me!~  00:57, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation problems 

message: In Flames is not a metalcore (or melodic metalcore) band. Melodic death metal and alternative metal are the only appropriate genre labels for them. This melodic metalcore nonsense exists not only on the main page but on several of the album pages as well.Thrasher1988 (talk) 00:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to have leverage, you need to point to reliable published sources. Binksternet (talk) 03:39, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  metalcore?!?! 

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message: I began a discussion recently suggesting that bands should only have members subpages if they have had large numbers of line-up changes. I don't believe that having a members subpage for this band is necessary, as there are only eight former members, a lot of the information there can already be found at the main article, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The session members can simply be listed in the band members section, and there's then no arguing over where the timeline should belong. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 12:29, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to go ahead. Klbrain (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: Haha, who keeps changing it to N Flaymez?
N Flaymz is a Swedish metalcore boy band,
That's funny. 142.117.125.159 (talk) 06:30, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haha, who keeps changing it to N Flaymez? 

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message: Anders said in an interview that Chris Broderick is now an official member, and with Engelin still on hiatus, but touring with The Halo Effect, I don't buy that he's still in the band, especially since he skipped the question in 2022 when he was asked if he was still in the band. Tkgaynor (talk) 10:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Broderick 

message: So it seems that some people think that In Flames is melodic death metal again but there are no sources stating that. I feel that unless new sources state this, that the lead should contain "In Flames is a heavy metal band" and that the genres in the infobox (for melodic death metal) should say (early). Who agrees? FireCrystal 04:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Flames current genre dispute 

message: I saw Shawn Hurley in the former members box. He hasn't played on any of the albums or EPs. Who is he? Tkgaynor (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Shawn Hurley? 

message: I don't really think the band is metalcore, as they lack the hardcore punk elements, and I don't know if Louder Sound is reliable. I got warned for removing metalcore though. Tkgaynor (talk) 00:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre dispute (again) 

message: https://blabbermouth.net/news/anders-friden-says-in-flames-current-lineup-is-awesome-in-every-possible-way in this article Anders Friden says that Chris and Liam aren't hired men, implying Wilson is an official member  Mewhen123 (talk) 09:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liam Wilson official member