Talk:Pilot wave theory

message: I have started to create an article for this subject.  I am planning further work on it in the near future, but I would welcome comments on any errors I have introduced.  Thank you.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadly Nut (talk • contribs) 22:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This equation is correct, and no further simplification is needed. The numerator is the action of the Laplacian (\nabla^2) on \sqrt{\rho}. That is, it would be equally correct to write \nabla^2(\sqrt{\rho}). WhiteInk (talk) 18:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comments

message: This one was in 1926 ... L. de Broglie, “Sur la possibilité de relier les phénomènes d'interference et de diffraction á la théorie des quanta de luminère" (tr., On the possibility of linking the phenomena of interference and diffraction of the quantum theory of light).
What is the 1927 paper that the article references? --J. D. Redding 05:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paper date? 

message: The experiment reported here http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110602/full/news.2011.344.html seems to support the pilot wave interpretation of quantum mechanics.  Does this merit addition to the article? 71.218.129.139 (talk) 22:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New "Weak Measurement" Double-Slit Experimental Results 

message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9yWv5dqSKk  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.139.35.250 (talk) 20:38, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recommend adding this video demonstrating the Yves Couder experiments 

message: This is the merge discussion — MaxEnt 16:55, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: merge I generally prefer my articles diced up along logical cleavage lines, even if the pieces are small. However, this case strikes me as extremely clear, per lumpy Wikipedia convention, that these articles should merge. It's possible that pilot wave survives as a sub-article of De_Broglie–Bohm_theory. — MaxEnt 16:55, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I read a bit more, and discovered that some points of disagreement between the two articles are severe, particularly concerning de Broglie's rebuttal/non-rebuttal of the inelastic scattering critique. — MaxEnt 17:04, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

text: merge See comment from Crazy2be on 2 November 2016. — MaxEnt 17:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

text: separate While some people like to lump Bohmian mechanics and de Broglie pilot-wave theory together, they are actually separate. Their surface similarities lead to big differences in the details. Thus, I recommend keeping the articles separate yet referencing each other. Still, it would be nice to resolve the disagreements between the two articles. The Pilot_waves article should also reference the Matter_wave article. Furthermore, hydrodynamic pilot waves have been investigated recently by researchers such as Prof. Yves Couder of the Université Paris-Diderot and Prof. John Bush of MIT. These hydrodynamic pilot waves certainly exist whether or not pilot waves exist within quantum mechanics, and thus the pilot wave article should stand alone with links to both Bohmian mechanics and hydrodynamic pilot wave theory. Their work is mentioned in the article on Hydrodynamic_quantum_analogs, which should be cited from the base pilot wave article. 192.80.95.230 (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given the uncontested opposition and hence lack of consensus on a long-standing proposal. Klbrain (talk) 22:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disagrees with main article 

message: What is the "manifest nonlocality" mentioned in the consequences section? Fresheneesz (talk) 04:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  manifest nonlocality? 

message: This page really needs to be merged with De Broglie–Bohm theory.  They are the exact same topic.  I don't understand how no one has noticed this yet.
Bzzzing (talk) 23:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why are there two pages on this topic? Merger needed 

message: Additionally, the linked page (a redirect) is rather messy and may need an improved NPOV. 97.80.84.84 (talk) 05:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to electron trajectory may be tenuous 

message: A derivation of pilot waves has been demonstrated from purely classical Maxwell’s electrodynamics and published recently in a high impact factor journal (https://doi.org/10.1007/s11071-020-05928-5). I am the author of the paper, and therefore I am not the person allowed to upload the reference, since a COI is at stake. But perhaps, if someone finds it interesting, he could introduce a section entitled “Zitterbewegung” with something similar to this:
::Charged extended particles can experience self-oscillatory dynamics as a result of classical electrodynamic self-interactions \cite{}. This trembling motion has a frequency that is closely related to the zitterbewegung frequency appearing in Dirac's equation. The mechanism producing these fluctuations arises because some parts of an accelerated charged corpuscle emit electromagnetic perturbations that can affect another part of the body, producing self-forces. Using the Liénard-Wiechert potential as solutions to Maxwell's equations with sources, it can be shown that these forces can be described in terms of state-dependent delay differential equations, which display limit cycle behavior. Therefore, the principle of inertia, as appearing in Newton's first law, would only hold on average, since uniform motion can become unstable through a process of symmetry breaking of the Lorentz group. Consequently, pilot waves would be necessary attached to any electrodynamic body.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvaro12Lopez (talk • contribs) 12:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Zitterbewegung

message: It seems to me that these pages need to be either merged or distinguished:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Broglie%E2%80%93Bohm_theory
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave_theory
There is a lot of different information in each, but they seem to be the same topic. Etomology (talk) 18:26, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger