Talk:Beer rating

message: This article just seems to be a way to promote rating websites that are not notable, as pointed out soon after the article was started .  The article hasn't significantly improved since.  I'm for stubbing it, but deletion would be fine. --Ronz (talk) 15:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not notable?  do u know anything about beer?Dabiiigtimers (talk) 03:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to show notability, not just assume it, by citing reliable sources. Are there more articles like the New Yorks Times one? They would help. Are there books about beer ratings that you know of?—C45207 | Talk 05:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Stubbing makes sense.  If the current rating organizations mentioned are suitable for their own articles (which the references as they are now do not really suggest) the info should be moved there but it shouldn't be in this article.  -- SiobhanHansa 19:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete/stub

message: I disagree with Ronz's edit removing the external links from the article. This is the article for Beeradvocate, Ratebeer, etc, and their external links are appropriate. — goethean ॐ 18:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As this article isn't specifically about any of the rating websites, WP:ELNO #19 applies, as well as WP:SOAP. --Ronz (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: This article as a whole seems to be a bit immature, as it looks like it contains a lot of advertising. Especially the link to Wetherspoons. Of course they perform a beer rating during their real ale festival in spring, but is that really something that is so special to this pub chain, that for this fact alone the pub chain has to be cited?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.206.224.33 (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  J.D. Wetherspoon advertising 

message: I'm mostly new to dealing with templates, so am at least temporarily bringing this to the talk page. In its current form, DasBeer's entry seems suited for speedy deletion because it reads entirely as an advertisement. If someone knows how to correctly address this, please do. Pixel Eater (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it per WP:V.  This is the same problem discussed in the first discussion above. --Ronz (talk) 17:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blatant and unencyclopedic advertising from DasBeers 

message: While the existing page is a convenient parking spot for ratings-gathering websites, it would be improved IMO by descriptions of such other rating systems as exist. The BJCP's system would be one example, the CAMRA 'National Beer Scoring Scheme' another (although very different in its intent as it appears to focus solely on the condition of beer served at a given pub at a given time?). There must be others? I'm not promoting or criticizing any particular model, just trying to think of how to improve the content of the page. Shorn again (talk) 14:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Can we find some sources to expand the article this way? --Ronz (talk) 16:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page needs rating system content 

message: We've made little progress with this article beyond the concerns already mentioned above. We're creeping beyond delete/stub concerns, but only barely. The main interest from editors is to present beer rating systems equally despite the complete lack of independent reliable sources demonstrating we should do so.
I've trimmed the article back, and tagged the remaining rating system as being overly promotional. --Ronz (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Little progress

message: The BeerAdvocate section is not in the style of an advertisement. It is a listing of facts, not a solicitation or marketing of any kind. The 'Advertisement' listing is unnecessary and unwarranted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewie814 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It promotes BeerAdvocate and RateBeer by over-relying on their own self-published press. The relevant policy is WP:NPOV, but I've changed the maintenance template to focus editors on finding independent, reliable sources. --Ronz (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: BeerAdvocate "Advertising"

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