Talk:Lay ecclesial ministry

message: Thank you for your contributions to this article. Before changing the article, however, kindly check your sources. Several errors were introduced by later edits that could have been avoided by doing some research first... or at least bring it up to discussion here.Thank you, and God bless! Protoclete (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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message: One of those errors was the edit that Lay Ecclesial Ministry (LEM) includes roles like reader or eucharistic minister. This is not the case. These may be lay ministries, but they are not ecclesial ministries. The Church has developed Lay Ecclesial Ministry to refer specifically to "professional" ministers who are not ordained, but nevertheless perform official, ecclesial ministrin the name of the church... a ministry which requires extensive theological, spiritual, human, and pastoral formation.Protoclete (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Sorry about the error. I am little unsure though about what you mean when you say "the Church developed" the Lay Ecclesial Ministry. Please see my comments below for more detail. The relevant documents all seem to suggest the church didn't develop a new ministry, and that the term is purely descriptive. --Lo2u (T • C) 00:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for the confusion! My comment above did mean that the Church (at least the Church here in the US) has developed the term "Lay Ecclesial Ministry" to describe the kind of ministry being done, and the people doing it, which is the topic of this article.Protoclete (talk) 19:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

text: This is a good point, and yet another reason why the page for Lay ministry should not blindly redirect to this page. I have also taken the liberty of decapitalizing the title of the article. I hope this meets with your satisfaction. --Champaign (talk) 08:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed - Lay ministry refers to the ministry of the laity, ie, the entire vocaiton/apostolate of the laity. Much broader than lay ecclesial ministry, which refers specifically to theologically trained ministers with ecclesial vocations (working in the Church rather than in a secular career/vocation) Protoclete (talk) 11:42, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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message: Certain ecclesiastical writers have criticized a phenomenon of feminization within Christianity, pointing to the fact that Lay Ecclesial Ministry attracts more women than men. This could perhaps be mentioned in the article, along with appropriate sources of course.   ADM (talk) 08:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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message: Why is the title of this article capitalized?  Woogee (talk) 04:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  I am moving this article posthaste to Lay ecclesial ministry. --Champaign (talk) 07:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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