Talk:HTC Wizard

message: Parts of the article say 4gb, the info box says 2 which is it?--74.131.91.57 (talk) 01:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mini-SD Compatibility

message: This picture don't represent HTC Wizard. Just search for Qtek 9100 or SPV M3000 and you will find the real image. I have in my hand this phone and I know it! I don't find how to change pictures from articles and I have no time now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dicocodino (talk • contribs) 14:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several different designs for HTC Wizards.  The one in the photo is just one of several designs.  Check out HTC's website 
 to see what I mean. Brianreading (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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thread_title: Wrong picture

message: is this the correct place for that info? There are hundreds of applications and programs and this article should be a summary on the product in question —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.205.103.41 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think it's inappropriate, feel free to be bold and remove it. I've given up trying to improve this article for now since I don't have time to deal with the attendant drama. Wibbble 19:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing software compatibility as well as all other unsourced information especially those by anonymous editors.  It's original research, and this is against Wikipedia rules. Brianreading 05:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Software Compatibility?

message: Type: Smartphone? Isn't a pocket PC.
:It's running Windows Pocket PC, it has a touch screen and all the programs needed for a pocket PC... The only thing really subtracting fromt his is the 196 (ot so) mhz CPU that just does not cut it. Plus, the touch screen needs calibration all too often.
-> Spartphone is a general category contatining all mobile phone enabled multi-purspoes devices, or am I wrong? Just beacuse the OS name has not "Smartphone" tag does not mean WIZA is not a smartphone
There is a Pocket PC mention in the beginning of the definition. Why repeaing it, stating that Wizard is a "Pocket PC phone"? Wizard is a smartphone and it falls under the Wikipedia smartphone definition and is present in the Wikipedia's list of smartphones.
I suggest changing that "Pocket PC phone" back to "smartphone".
--schmalter 194.84.64.207 08:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Smartphone?

message: now seems to be dead - ive removed it and posted it here as a reminder in case anyone finds alternate info Tyhopho 20:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  msn for free link 

message: I removed this dead link: i-mate K-JAM, english. --Edcolins 12:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: massively POV? im beginning to think that section definitely  needs sources if it should stay. Tyhopho 01:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I own this phone myself and haven't had the first two listed issues. My screen is constantly aligned properly, and the slideout keyboard can be used with the dialler application to enter numbers, while the onscreen buttons are large enough to use your fingers on. Since I don't run an Exchange server I can't validate the third issue, and because I'm not using a T-Mobile model I can't verify the last either. As far as complexity goes, I haven't seen any issues. It's easier to do some things with than with other phones I've used, and a lot of support through websites and forums is available with a little searching(Down to specific applications for the phone that solve possible issues, and guides for others) Smoke 22:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  customer complaints section 

message: I was bought this phone as a valentines day present from my fiancé last year, due to my other cell at the time being absolute garbage, and I've never been unhappy with it. The T-Mobile version of this phone is, at least to me, without problems. I'm an insanely high end techno-phile, so this phone was just the thing for me.
Durability? In spades. This cell has been dropped onto concrete and cement from about 2 feet up and nothing bad has happened so far. This has even been dropped into a puddle and all that happened was that I the mini-sd popped out and I lost the stylus. The phone acted strange, but after letting it air out completely (battery and sim card out, covers off) it works like new again.
Signal? Unless you're standing inside a grove of trees a druid would be proud of, it seems to get exelent service even in basements and elevators.
I cant seem to find any firmware updates for this.... so it hasnt been updated sense it was given to me. Anyone have a link to update it for me?
::Check the T-mobile members section or http://www.xda-developers.com/ Syrion 17:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Praise from Customers  

message: This is the same phone I got just last week, only it didn't come with bubble breaker and rather than pocket msn came with windows live installed instead. Everything else was as mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.45.107 (talk) 14:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   updates?  

message: This section is clearly inappropriate for wikipedia, see: WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE:
 Wikipedia articles should not include instructions or advice (legal, medical, or otherwise), suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. This includes tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, video game guides, and recipes
The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to teach subject matter. It is not appropriate to create or edit articles which read as textbooks, with leading questions and step-by-step problem solutions as examples
That perfectly describes the section I removed, and so I'm going to remove it again. Please don't re-add it without discussing it here first and presenting an argument for why WP:NOT doesn't apply in this case. Wibbble 19:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It takes two to revert war.  In the future, please use a , , or similar template, so that the content can be properly transwikied.  Compliance with WP:NOT isn't so urgent to warrant biting newcomers or revert warring. — Omegatron 15:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Registry hacks section. 

message: This is a dispute about what including information on fixing screen issues on the HTC Wizard. 12:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment: HTC Wizard 

message: Sorry, but this article is a MESS (indeed with all-caps)! It's full of apparent linkspam, it seems to be void of any order and I'm wondering what the hell the photographed photo is, since it doesn't look remotely to the HTC wizards I've seen so far. Syrion 17:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the diff  on the edits to see where the worst of it comes from - it's quite recent. Please feel free to remove it - I'm getting fed up dealing with this one guy's constant crusade to put as much junk as possible in the article. Also, there's different variants of HTC Wizards - the one in the picture seems to be the Cingular one. Wibbble 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wibbble, the picture is of the Cingular 8125. I first thought the article was about that specific phone so i was editing things, then realized, whoops... it wasnt... so it would be nice to have more than just ONE picture... anyone have any other pictures? Maybe I can get a better version of the Cingular 8125 up... anyone else? -- Mazakar 23:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Mazakar The HTC Wizard comes in many avatars and one of them is the picture shown. I own this one and this avatar is marketed by {Cingular] in the USA.--59.144.161.143 15:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, duh... I was saying we need more than just that ONE MODEL up... since there are "many avatars" of the HTC Wizard, why only show one? Mazakar 18:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

text: At the moment, the RfC seems to support not including the content. You might want to add to it to explain why you think this content is appropriate. You've never actually countered the points I've made for why it should not be included. Wibbble 21:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Thinking on this more, I want to make sure that you understand this: if you don't participate in the debate, that doesn't mean that there's no consensus. If you don't participate, then consensus will be formed without your input. If you want to keep this content, you need to explain why all the links you've added are appropriate, and why I'm incorrect concerning the user-guide material on the screen alignment issue clashing with WP:NOT and WP:OR. If you don't do this, then the consensus will form without your input. I want to reiterate this - simply not participating in the discussion doesn't mean that you can stop it from forming a consensus. Wibbble 23:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wibbble I would urge you to quit raising your voice. I also want you to apologize for removing content from this page without discussing it first. Once you have done the above, we will talk. Until then I assume you are not worth the time. --59.144.161.143 10:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The bold was for emphasis. I'm not going to apologise for removing content which is inappropriate for wikipedia. If you are not willing to participate in discussion then the content will most likely be removed again! You have done everything to avoid ever explaining why my position is not correct. Wibbble 19:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree... If something is inappropriate for Wikipedia, delete it! If the person makes a mistake deleting something, the history is still there! There is no reason to be all grouchy about something so simple! Mazakar 22:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here from the RfC link, although it seems that there is not much of a debate to contribute to. I'd just like to point out that, from what I have read of WP guidlelines and policies, the "burden of proof" is on the editor wanting to include or retain material, not on the editor wanting to remove material. This means that 59.144.161.143 should either put forward some arguments for including the disputed material, or accept that it is not going to form part of the article. SheffieldSteel 20:18, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete rewrite request 

message: I've removed the broken and non-English links, created Talk:HTC_Wizard/userguide with the userguide content to be moved to wikibooks - but I've left it in the article for now. I've also started the more general clean-up with the introduction. I searched for references for the codenames, but could only find blogs and sites that copied wikipedia's content - there was nothing that qualifies as a reliable source. I've no problems with that sort of detail being in the article, but it should be sourced. If a suitable source is found, I'm quite happy to work it into the article. I think that in that case perhaps the variants and codenames could be expanded into their own section. Wibbble 18:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to re-add the 'ROM' section, it needs to be rewritten to be an encyclopaedic standard and use less jargon. Remember that wikipedia is not for user-guide or how-to type content. As for the list of software, please see my arguments above - that list isn't appropriate for this article. If you want to keep it, add it to something like Windows Mobile, as the list is not specific to this device. Please also do not revert other changes that may be made - your last edit also removed the only referencing in the article! Wibbble 19:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia has several guidelines such as WP:NOTABLE and WP:NOT which document situations where material can and should be removed from articles. According to the burden of proof guidelines, the editor wishing to add or retain material needs to justify this position. On the other hand, there are no reasonable grounds for repeatedly criticising an editor for removing material in good faith. SheffieldSteel 19:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have moved all the factual, encyclopaedic information from the ROM section into the previous section, and deleted the unsourced and inappropriate information. SheffieldSteel 19:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starting Clean-up 

message: I've nominated this article for deletion because as it stands there is no reason to have an article. There is no information here that establishes the  notability of the subject matter. The article content is essentially a series of software and feature lists - basically what you could find in any advertisement for the product. To quote the guideline: it is "blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article."
SheffieldSteel 21:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, you didn't actually nominate this properly - you tagged it as speedy, which it's clearly not. I also think that it has the potential to be a decent article, but I've given up trying to improve it due to the actions of a few other editors. Most of the cruft on this article was added to prove a point that wikipedia should be about 'everything'. I think that I've offered solutions above which could turn this into a decent article, but they were just reverted without comment or discussion. After a while, dealing with that just gets boring. Wibbble 10:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nominated for deletion 

message: User:Brianreading deleted the software sections with the following edit comment: Removed sections with original research, In order to post this sort of information, the anonymous author should both consider if this is encyclopedic material, and should also make this verifiable.
I support this edit, and its reasoning, based on the following wikipedia guidelines, principles, and policies:
*Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, nor is it a buyer's guide to technological devices. Software compatibility is not automatically a notable issue - unless, of course, a reliable source comments on its importance.
*Even if the issue is notable, providing any information about compatibility (or otherwise) of any particular piece of software, without verification, constitutes original research and is not acceptable.
The article already says that the ROM supplied is some variant of Windows Mobile 5.0. That should provide enough information about what software will and will not work on this hardware. Any exceptions, if documented, should be considered on a case-by-case basis. Sheffield Steeltalkersstalkers 13:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Software section 

message: I've requested this article be put under semi-protection by administrators to block anonymous vandalization especially after a consensus and valid reasoning as to why certain pieces of information are inappropriate on Wikipedia. Brianreading 10:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been placed under full-protection to allow the anonymous author to discuss his/her reasoning with the rest of the community. That discussion should be done in the section above. Brianreading 12:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested for Semi-Protection

message: Cingular 8125 has been redirected here. If I missed any encyclopedic information from that article, please move it over to this one. Thanks. JCDenton2052 (talk) 03:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect 

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