Talk:UEFA Cup and Europa League records and statistics

message: This article treats the Inter-City Fairs Cup and the UEFA Cup as though they were the same competition.  However, although the latter replaced the former, it was in fact completely different, organised by a different organisation and with entirely different qualification criteria.  As such, the article seems to be in need of significant reworking to remove the years of the Fairs Cup.
Any thoughts?
--Bcnviajero 13:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, yes it's confusing and should be changed, or at least noted. I would think that removing all Inter-City Fairs info would be best. aLii 14:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  O.k. Can you give us source of what you said???Saudi9999 10:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Please , Be polite when you talking. Did you see this tip before writing ((This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts using four tildes (~ ~ ~ ~).)) to know who you are ???!! Saudi9999 15:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Exactly. This is the UEFA Cup finals article. Therefore I'm requesting user Fadiga09 to stop adding non-Uefa results (ie the Fairs Cup) per UEFA themselves. , . Thanks. BestEditorEver 08:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: UEFA has not sanctioned the Fairs Cup and their results have no place in this article. It was a different tournament, with a different organizer and a different setup. I'll just refer to the refs I posted in my previous comment. BestEditorEver 09:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text: You are still yet to source those 30 years of precedent. In any case, official Uefa regulations should be clear. -- BestEditorEver 10:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, Uefa Cup is the follow-up from the Fairs. That's rather obvious. But, UEFA does not recognize the Fairs results as part of UEFA competition ,.  You're citing a ref that basically backs my point. UEFA.com () is only listing the UEFA Cup winners on the left and not the Fairs Cup. Their results are not part of UEFA statistics and should therefore not be included in this article describing... UEFA statistics -- BestEditorEver 10:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

text: They changed name, and......... do not consider the Fais results part of clubs' European records. My ref wins. -- BestEditorEver 15:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate

message: Due to the long-running edit war, I have protected this article and three others where the same UEFA Cup/ Fairs Cup dispute is occurring. Protection is not an endorsement of the current version (see m:The Wrong Version). As for all four articles the dispute is identical, I suggest discussion ought to take place on one page to help keep track. Talk:European football records seems the most suitable place, as there is already some discussion on the matter there. Oldelpaso 18:18, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reprotected the article due to the continued edit warring.  Work it out here on the talk page.  Dreadstar † 20:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  This page European football records is about all offical and unoffical European football. But page about UEFA Cup is about offical cup that orgnized by The UEFA, so this page is only talk about the offical one as we decide in EUROPEAN FOOTBALL RECORDS talk page.--Saudi9999 06:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

text: If you want to present consensus for changes to an article, it should be done on that article's talk page.  In other words, get it done here instead of vaguely pointing to some other article's talk page.  And please start signing your posts.  Dreadstar † 20:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I did suggest centralising the discussion, as the same dispute was happening in multiple places, though the amount of conflict on that talk page and fact that edit warring has continued suggests that attempt was not an overwhelming success. If this article is still being edit-warred over then protection may well be appropriate. PS: the poll was initiated by User:BestEditorEver, not me. Oldelpaso 22:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea in a multi-article dispute where the subjects are all closely connected.  Should probably add an exact link to the consensus discussion on each affected page, if not the whole or appropriate segments being copied after the discussion is closed.  I wouldn't want new editors to have to hunt for the prior consensus, while enduring verbal assaults for not following it...;) Dreadstar † 00:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or better yet, create a subpage with links to it on all the article's talk pages, that way it doesn't get mixed up in the general discussion about any one single article.  Perhaps that should be done now, create  subpage, copy paste the consensus discussion, then provide links at the top of each talk page or some place highly visible.  In any case, I'm not quite ready to unprotect this article just yet.  When I'm convinced the edit warring is over, I'll unprotect. Dreadstar † 17:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: Benfica holds the record of most wins and most scored goals in Europa League. Why isn't this information available in the article? 85.247.150.14 (talk) 17:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[S.L. Benfica]] records 

message: Hi, I'm not sure of value of the Number of participating clubs by country of the Europa League era section when it turns out that it only includes clubs who played in the group stage. For instance, to read that section without having noticed the extra criteria, one would believe that Sevilla didn't play in the competition in 2015-16, when they actually arrived from the Champions League and won it. 
Either it should include the group stage caveat in the title or it should (and this has far more value, I think) include seasons where team qualified having finished third in the Champions League qualifying round. The teams could have those seasons listed in italics, as in UEFA Europa League clubs performance comparison. If you were particularly keen you could make the total more details so it said something like "4 (2 group stage, 2 knock-out)".
Similarly, I'm not sure of the value of listing the participating clubs just for the five years the UEFA Cup had a group stage. I think it would make more sense to have a separate list article of UEFA Cup participants (given it would be quite sizeable). Finally, I think all the keys ("bold = something" etc) should be above the tables not below them. All thoughts welcome, HornetMike (talk) 18:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I support your proposals--Baronedimare (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of participating clubs by country of the Europa League era 

message: Elfsborg in 2007-08 represented Sweden (not Denmark) Metufit (talk) 07:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elfsborg