Talk:National Hockey League rivalries

message: Now, I've always heard that the main chant by Rangers fans was, "Potvin beats his wife!" Anyone know something more concrete (Paging New York fans...) so that we can add it?Habsfannova 02:29, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Pat LaFontaine trophy is important to many of the hardcore fans, as it honors a great American hockey player who played for both organizations.... and it offers bragging rights for the 2 sets of fans.... I feel that the winner of the inaugural Pat LaFontaine trophy should be mentioned within the context of the trophy. If the chicekn dance has been played at Islander games before Theo FLuery, then I defer.... I had not heard it at any NYR / NYI games previosuly.... Nyrmetros 01:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The LaFontaine trophy really isn't mentioned in the local media--I can't really see giving it more space than it has now.  It's basically just a promotional gimmick.  It rightly gets very little press nowadays because it's so much less important than the games themselves when both teams are in a playoff race.  Which team won the trophy first is basically a random factoid, which is not appropriate for WIkipedia. Croctotheface 05:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to the Rangers - Islanders section 

message: The original six era of the NHL should have more documentation. The teams played more frequently, and games were often undermined by personal rivalries between players. This aspect of the game seems to have been lost with time. Would anyone be willing to help? Flibirigit 14:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mm, but it doesn't really require more mention than that.  A single paragraph in the Original Six or the History of the NHL articles saying what you just said should suffice.  Ravenswing 15:59, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Considering Boston lost most of the series they met in, it would place undue weight to have it more "unbiased" towards Boston. --Pwnage8 (talk) 02:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Original Six 

message: I'm looking at the end section here, and I have to wonder about CBJ/NAS, MIN/DAL, and NAS/DET.  What, precisely, is the impetus for these?  I mean, Nashville and Detroit have the one playoff series and the fact that they're the only two not-awful teams in the Central, but surely, there's gotta be more than that for a rivalry to exist.  I mean, Edmonton and Dallas have six playoff series of hatred to count towards theirs.  Calgary and Vancouver have been divisional rivals and frequent playoff partners almost from the get-go, and their most recent set-to was probably the roughest in the West last year.  But those...I dunno.  If someone can compellingly show a rivalry there, okay, but otherwise, we may want to prune this.   Doogie2K (talk)  00:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other" Rivalries 

message: what about it?
:It hasn't been much of a battle for a few years now. I don't think it ever was. The Penguins have never beaten the Flyers in the playoffs. I noticed a renewed vigor between the teams this past season (more so early on), but I wouldn't say that makes it a rivalry. I recall Lemieux's last game before his first retirement and it was in Philly. The fans cheered him. There is no way the Philly fans would do that for a Ranger or a Devil, but they did it for a Penguin. Then again, what do I know? If the Flyers are listed as rivals for the Islanders, Sabres, and Capitals on this page, certainly Flyers/Penguins more so than those three. This article must be a head ache for whoever chooses to watch it. It's bad enough when on the Flyers talk page a discussion on rivalries concludes that the Rivals tidbit in the factbox should be removed, only to have it reappear a few days later. --Sparkhurst 07:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  battle of Pennsylvania 

message: The fact that there is nothing other than a mention of this rivalry on an 'NHL Rivalries' page is ridiculous in the extreme. Though it was pretty much an original six rivalry (since the Leafs and Habs haven't seen each other in the playofs since 1970 if i'm not mistaken), it needs to be mentioned. The leafs/habs rivalry was about more than just hockey or sports (and I'm not just spouting teary eyed romanticism here), it was reflective of the ethnic conflict between Franco and Anglo Canadians, it was the rivalry of the two (with detroit a third) dominant teams. It was Ontario vs Quebec. This was comparable to the Rangers/Celtic rivalry in Scotland (though much less violent). Even today, many (if not most) Leafs and Habs fans (at least the ones in Toronto and Montreal) care a hell of a lot about this rivalry, and rest assured that many are anxiously awaiting a playoff meeting between the two. If they did meet in the playoffs, then mentioning the 'Battle of Ontario' in a Toronto bar would probably garner the response "Ottawa Who?". It doesn't need to be an essay, it doesn't even need to be the longest one on this page, but the montreal/toronto rivalry needs to be mentioned, regardless of whether or not it took place in the era of the original six.
And I am not volunteering to write it. Look how longwinded I am here. I am just calling attention to a gaping hole in this article.
                          Signed, A Concerned Hockey Fan
: If you don't start it, who will? Even an incomplete section that needs expansion is something to build on. Even something no longer than what you wrote here would serve as a foundation for others to come in and add information. Croctotheface 04:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I started it. Feel free to start refining it! TrulyTory 04:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that we delete much of what's written here.  There's a whole paragraph on the Kings-Leafs game in 1993 (seriously, it's been 13 years, can you Leafs fans get over it?).  It's really not even germane to the Leafs/Habs rivalry.  It actually sounds like whining!!!! (Yes, I know, I'm an avid Kings season ticket holder, and thinks Gretzky is the greatest)OrangeMarlin 20:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leafs vs. Canadians 

message: I admit that I'm an Avalanche fan, and I really appreciate the depth on the Detroit-Colorado rivalry presented here.  I feel like perhaps we could go into some depth about the Vancouver-Colorado rivalry.  I admit there's little playoff material to talk about, but the in-season rivalry is huge, being that they are division rivals.  A nod to the Todd Bertuzzi incident and the increased penalties between these two teams might merit making it a small section.  65.78.76.226 00:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canucks vs. Avalanche 

message: I think that whole section needs rewriting, and I'm gonna do it unless there's much objection.  There's no mention of the goalie brawls, no mention of the depths in which the local media got involved, the info on the Lemieux-Draper hit is all wrong, it's just not well written and misses a lot of key info.  And I think it was obviously written by an Avs fan (Draper did not receive "a concussion and several facial lacerations"...Lemieux smashed his jawbone and orbital bone.  Darren McCarty did not "get into a fight" with Lemieux the year after, that would imply that it was a two-sided affair.  If Colorado fans "often poke fun" at the Wings for not getting a three-peat in 1999, Wings fans do the same for the Statue of Liberty goal in '02.  And so on.)  I'm a Wings fan, but I can make it balanced.  More balanced than this, anyway.  I just need a couple days. Sonar1313 22:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wings vs. Avalanche 

message: This is becoming a bigger rivalry then the Sens-leafs one. It is possible that they will meet in the playoffs. I suggest adding a section. Mbralchenko 15:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadiens vs. Senators

message: There should be more info about the fan rivalries of each team, not just the teams stats against each other. Nyrmetros 22:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People arguing in bars about which team is better isn’t very encyclopedic and it's hard to find sources for anything better.  If you can come up with some sources, more power to you.  Kevlar67 03:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I agree with this.  If other teams have publicized disputes akin to the ones talked about in NYI/NYR, I'd certainly be fine with including them, but if they're not publicized and can't be sourced, they shoudn't be included in the article. Croctotheface 04:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh I agree. I wasn't talking about the "he said she said stuff".... but legitimate and well documented fan rivalries that correspond with the team rivalries. Luckily the NYR - NYI team/fan rivalry has been well documented over the years in the local papers. Nyrmetros 04:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Fan" rivalries

message: * How is Buffalo vs Carolina a historic rivalry ??? Nyrmetros 17:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Historic Rivalries

message: Ok, I realize everyone has their favorite rivalry and would love to see it on WP.  But is a period-by-period commentary on series and games really needed here?  Before we start to hack and slash (two minutes :), I thought I'd see what kind of discussion can be had.  Thx. — MrDolomite • Talk 15:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Battle of Alberta section can be cleaned up. It had a main article, so we don't need any of the rest of the stuff in that section, just leave the title and the main article and that's it. That would help and it seems like a good solution (at least a partial solution). Am I right? Bsroiaadn 17:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|too long}} 

message: This sentence "This rivalry has become quite intense in New Jersey itself, with the northern part of the state being the Devils fanbase, while the southern part of the state is overwhelmingly Flyers fans." has a "verification needed" tag after it. There aren't really any sites (That I have come across) that document the rivalry very well. But, from personal experience, I know that a lot of people from Southern New Jersey are Flyers fans rather than Devils fans. I know personal experience of one person isn't an encyclopedic reference, but what if there were many editors that also said it was true? It's the only thing I can thing of to get rid of the "verification needed" tag. I think it should be left in there as it is important, but it's the only thing I can think of. Would that suffice as verification or no? Bsroiaadn 17:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is pretty clear about attributing a reliable source to all facts (especially those that may be controversial, or come under scrutiny).  What you are proposing above is considered original research, which is expressly prohibited in the WP:NOR policy.  The idea is that Wikipedia is not intended to be a "primary source," but instead a collection of facts obtained from secondary sources.  Basically, if nobody has quantified the Devils/Flyers fanbases in a reliable source, then the statement shouldn't be in Wikipedia.--Brianvdb 04:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flyer fans in New Jersey 

message: Would the fact that either the Devils or the Flyers have won every Atlantic Division title since the 1994-1995 season be an interesting fact to add? I didn't know that until I saw it mentioned on New Jersey Devils. reference 1reference 2 Bsroiaadn 18:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Devils-Flyers Rivalry

message: there should definately be a mention of the biggest game between the two teams in the last 30 years....i added one and someone deleted it... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.235.232.116 (talk) 04:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  leafs and canadiens  

message: The chant "rangers suck" being heard at every devils home game is common knowledge to anyone who has ever attended a Devils home game or even watched one on TV.
: Your belief that something is "common knowledge" does not exclude it from WP:A. Croctotheface 04:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Devils Chant

message: The Devils are gonna be playing in Newark so this section needs some revision. 66.88.206.154 15:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hudson River Rivalry 

message: This article can be improved a lot, as there is much valuable info. However, there are several key problems. My top ideas for improving this page are:
*Drastically cut the Battle of Alberta section. It has a main article, that link and a brief paragraph would suffice.
*Create a separate article for the Battle of Ontario, similar to the Alberta one to shorten that section.
*Try and make the Atlantic division section shorter and more concise, or if necessary create a separate article and link it.
*Try and find more citations, sports websites often have stories on this, especially around playoff time.
*In general, try and avoid long descriptions of single games or incidents, unless they are the single root cause of the rivalry.
*Shorten or remove the other rivalries section. There is no way that we need a list stating that vancouver or buffalo is a rival of every team in their divisions, that seems to go without saying.
When I find time i will try and adress some of these problems, but help would be appreciated. Thanks Random89 06:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Atlantic Division Rivalries has enough content to split it off into it's own article, in my honest opinion. Same with the Battle of Ontario. Anyone disagree? I'll try to work on getting some more references when I have some free time and finish some other things I'm working on. But I'd prefer if someone at least started that before I/if I get to it, anyway. BsroiaadnTalk 04:54, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I split off the atlantic division section into it's own article. It was mainly a copy-paste job, so it;s a bit sloppy, but i will try and come back and edit it at some point if no one else does. Random89 19:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have split off the Battle of Ontario section. Also, mainly a cut and paste job, but it's a start. If it gets a bit of a clean up soon, it could perhaps be a DYK candidate. Random89 07:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: My 2 cents

message: One user is making an effort to stop the term "freeway faceoff" from being applied to this rivalry. A bunch of unregistered editors and (so far) one registered user have been trying to add it. I would ask the proponents of that name to cite it or at least justify it here, or it will keep being removed. Random89 09:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The source is here.  There may be some newspaper articles, perhaps in the LATimes, but I can't find one at the moment.  It's the result of a recent online vote coordinated by a cable channel, so it's not clear to me whether/how it should be mentioned on the page.  --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 18:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for replying promptly. It seems to me that this is more of a marketing term used by FSN and the respective organizations, as evidenced by the creation of an "official logo" for the rivalry. For the time being, at least until we see if other media pick this up, perhaps it should be mentioned in the body of the section(and cited) instead of in the header. Random89 (talk) 23:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't edit war.  it is simply NOT notable nor is it sourced.  Thank you for your consideration.  OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I did not mean to accuse you of anything, I see that you are acting to try and better this article. That being said, I wish that one of the apparently many proponents of this title would come and discuss it, as it seems to me that it wouldn't be a bad thing to put in the body text. It i, after all, on the ducks website (as one editor pointed out with an attempt at sourcing).Random89 (talk) 08:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kings/Ducks Rivalry

message: I find this article very PoV, if not for the reliable sources, it would be a candidate fo deletion or at least a major reduction. Honestly, the rivalries in the NHL since the early 1990's are basically media created (that includes Leafs/Habs). There's one rivarly that's gotten no mention Nordiques/Habs. My point is, everybody has got a different view of this. GoodDay 19:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While in many cases I agree with you, I don't think this warrants deletion, just a cleanup (which I have started to do). I don't see a problem with "media created" rivalries, since this day almost everything is media created, as long as it is sourced in places beyond the newspaper or other media that created the term. I would propose deleting the "other rivalries" section and adding the few important entries to the main prose sections. That would go a long way to removing many of the POV issues. Random89 (talk) 08:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PoV article

message: Other historical rivalries
*Battle of Quebec (Montreal Canadiens vs. Quebec Nordiques (now the Colorado Avalanche))
*Vancouver Canucks vs. Calgary Flames
*Vancouver Canucks vs. Colorado Avalanche
*Vancouver Canucks vs. Minnesota Wild
*Edmonton Oilers vs. Vancouver Canucks
*Edmonton Oilers vs. Dallas Stars
*Edmonton Oilers vs. Anaheim Ducks
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. Boston Bruins
*Boston Bruins vs. Buffalo Sabres
*Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Philadelphia Flyers
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. New York Islanders
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. Buffalo Sabres
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. Ottawa Senators
*New York Rangers vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
*New York Rangers vs. Buffalo Sabres
*New York Islanders vs. Buffalo Sabres
*New York Rangers vs. New Jersey Devils
*Buffalo Sabres vs. Toronto Maple Leafs
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. Toronto Maple Leafs
*Washington Capitals vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
*St. Louis Blues vs. Detroit Red Wings
*Minnesota North Stars (now the Dallas Stars) vs. Chicago Blackhawks
*Colorado Avalanche vs. Dallas Stars
*Detroit Red Wings vs. Dallas Stars
*Detroit Red Wings vs. Anaheim Ducks
*Philadelphia Flyers vs. New Jersey Devils
*Hartford Whalers (now Carolina Hurricanes) vs. Boston Bruins
*Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Florida Panthers
*Atlanta Thrashers vs. Carolina Hurricanes
*Buffalo Sabres vs. Ottawa Senators
*Buffalo Sabres vs. Carolina Hurricanes
*Buffalo Sabres vs. Dallas Stars
*New Jersey Devils vs. Ottawa Senators
*New Jersey Devils vs. Carolina Hurricanes
*New Jersey Devils vs. Toronto Maple Leafs
I have removed this from the article. From what I can see, it contains no citations, much hyperbole, and has not been improved in quite a while. This is not to say that none of these are valid rivalries (most aren't), but if they are truly encyclopedic, they need sources, and should be written up properly like most others on this page.  Random89 09:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Historical Rivalries" Section 

message: I did not see anything about the Sharks-Stars rivalry which is surprisng. Some one needs to add this on! --Christiangamer7 (talk) 00:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dallas Stars Vs. San Jose Sharks 

message: Is that even a legitimate rivalry yet? Quite the long time in between those two incidents. Further, that section in the article is without a doubt not written from a neutral standpoint. 195.16.252.112 (talk) 18:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flyers - Capitals 

message: I've heard this rivalry referred to as "Broadway versus Broad Street" before. --24.102.232.53 (talk) 11:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flyers vs Rangers 

message: ...does not exist.  Not "any team" vs. "any team" in this division is an automatic rivalry (I specifically said Pens vs. Isles was historically notable, not an actual rivalry).  Are we adding Flyers and Devils vs. Islanders, next?  
The other three teams all despise the Rangers, and that's enough.    The Rangers don't even care that they've never beaten the Pens in the playoffs, and Penguins fans only hate Graves and don't really care what team he was on.  Jagr was booed when he was in Washington, and neither the team he played for nor the Stanley Cups had anything to do with it.  –ConkblockCity (talk) 19:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rangers vs. Penguins" 

message: ...Hey, the Caps were charter members of the Atlantic Division while the Pens weren't!  (and no, I'm not asking to bring in Florida and Tampa)
I know they aren't any more, but it's not asking to include the Nashville Predators.  The rivalry goes from the Patrick Division through one team being in the AD, through the other team being in the AD, to today.  It's a major, lengthy, significant, and involved rivalry for the Pens and the biggest one for the Caps, and I know there are people who want to write about it.  
The page title isn't National Hockey League Intra-Atlantic Division rivalries, now is it?  I'm not suggesting we write about every other rivalry with a team outside the Atlantic, but I think an exception could be made for the Caps.  They're basically honorary members; they have Patrick Division cred.  
y/n?
–ConkblockCity (talk) 21:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It shouldn't be. WikiProject Ice Hockey is very organized in its naming and templates. -- ISLANDERS27 05:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was half-kidding about the "Intra-Atlantic Division" thing, but that wasn't the point of this topic; at any rate, I know you're basically in favor of deleting the entire page, so I suppose that's your entire thought on this topic. –ConkblockedWiki 06:32, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh... -- ISLANDERS27 07:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penguins vs. Capitals? 

message: Removing the original research/Peacock phrase that "many Quebec residents miss the rivalry". Doc Quintana (talk) 19:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't make sense. Perhaps you meant remove, instead of removing, though that would be impolite really. -- ISLANDERS27 04:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nordiques - Montreal 

message: You might want to think about what additional rivalry articles to create and write. I tried, but it was up for deletion shortly afterwards, but later, redirected it to National Hockey League rivalries page. That article is about Canucks–Flames rivalry.
Some of the rivalry articles you may want to create include:
*Washington Capitals vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
*Los Angeles Kings vs. Edmonton Oilers
*Boston Bruins vs. Montreal Canadiens
*Central Division Rivalries
*Chicago Blackhawks vs. St. Louis Blues
I would like to have your suggestions and let me know what you think. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 23:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created and currently working on the one related to the showdown between the Bruins and the Canadiens. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 05:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rivalry articles

message: Basically, all this article states is that all the original six teams, particularly Montreal, are rivals with some other team, particularly another original six team.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMZ (talk • contribs) 16:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: This article summed up

message: The section on the Blackhawks vs. Canucks rivalry has been struck because "the rivalry may cool off"? It's the only interdivisional Western Conference rivalry that has any level of intensity as of this writing, even if it stemmed from 3 consecutive seasons in which they played each other in the playoffs. --Xiaoshan Math (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and restored the section and given the Western Conference its own interdivisional section. The rivalry is definitely alive and well as the past three playoffs can attest to. Furthermore, there's this: "The Chicago Blackhawks and Vancouver Canucks don't need much gas poured onto one of the hottest rivalries in the NHL, but new instigator Daniel Carcillo put one Canucks player on notice Wednesday." --Kevin W./Talk•CFB uniforms/Talk 20:36, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackhawks vs. Canucks rivalry 

message: I understand and appreciate the authors' intentions to clean up the page significantly to better reflect the accuracy of each rivalry and the time it takes to update/verify their authenticity.  However the heavy balance towards teams in the Eastern Conference at this point (regardless of how historical and/or how many decades did each rivalry last for) warrants the increased participation of fans from the Western Conference (through accurate source referencing and adherence to the guidelines of WP, of course).  
In terms of rivalries within each division and between two specific teams, we should have a three-sentence maximum description followed by a link to the respective pages for each division, where rivalries between specific teams can be detailed a little more (with additional page links).  The issue of interdivisional rivalries (PIT vs. WSH and CHI vs. VAN in particular) should be placed under "Interdivisional Rivalries --> Eastern/Western Conference."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.174.49 (talk) 10:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastern Bias and Separate Page for Each Division 

message: Hey guys, how are you all doing? my name is Allan, and I been a hockey fan for 16 plus years. (Go Penguins, Jets, and Red Wings!)  But anyways, I think by far that there's some rivalries who are not on here and should be.  The biggest omission obviously is the classic rivalry between the Red Wings and Avalanche, Id also reckon that there's one a ton of people forgot about, and that was the Chicago Blackhawks/Minnesota North Stars rivalrly, that was one of the bloodiest rivalries in the 80's and early 90's. they hated each other like Detroit and Colorado did, and im quite suprised its not on here.
I also think the original Winnipeg Jets rivalries with the Calgary Flames and Vancouver Canucks are reasonable, if not at least with Vancouver.  And to be honest, I feel that the Red Wings and Penguins could be mentioned too despite being in different conferences.  What do you guys think? by far im in shock though that the Avs/Wings and North Stars/Blackhawks are NOT on here. O_O--Dr. Pizza (talk) 23:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for more Historic Rivalries to be added on this page 

message: Come on you know this is now an intense rivalry  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.48.153 (talk) 01:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canucks and Bruins 

message: I would hardly consider the Detroit/Colorado rivalry to be historic… especially with Bertuzzi on the Detroit roster. Would it make more sense to move that under the Western Conference interdivisional rivalries? Besides, we might want to instead reserve the whole historical section for teams that don't exist anymore like the Whalers/Bruins and Nordiques/Canadiens rivalries. — D. Wo. 01:17, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is historic because of the downfall of the Avs (no pun intended), and them not meeting in the playoffs as much.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conyo14 (talk • contribs) 00:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wings vs. Avs 

message: With the two-of-three loss record against the sharks, the canucks are somewhat bitter with them. They also knocked them out of the playoffs last year  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNerd9 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canucks vs Sharks 

message: I would love help writing this article, this is by far a must be put in Historic rivalry, I can write it, but my english writing skills will need to be proofread.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Pizza (talk • contribs) 23:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago Blackhawks vs Minnesota North Stars 

message: I been a Penguins fan for 19 years, and we have always hated the Bruins.. and they hate us just as much.  Thank you.--Dr. Pizza (talk) 06:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone please put Boston Bruins vs Pittsburgh Penguins on here? 

message: I feel like we need a topic on the Canucks and the Kings. Especially after this season a rivalry has definitely been created. I don't have a good enough history on hockey to give a detailed description of the rivalry.
Sorry, I disagree. The Canucks and Kings do not have a rivalry worth stating, yet. Granted they have faced each other 5 times in the playoffs, with two being within the last 5 years. However the two teams do not have as much hatred as they would with an actual rivalry (ex. Canucks-Flames, Kings-Sharks). If they meet next year in the playoffs, I'll think about making them a rivalry. -Conyo14  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conyo14 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canucks vs Kings 

message: We need more added to it, remember when McSorley injured Brashear?  It was complete chaos. Here's some reference to it on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=213&v=YbTPFo6znZo Dr. Pizza (talk) 20:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but facing off once in the playoffs does not constitute a rivalry.Conyo14 (talk) 00:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canucks vs Bruins 

message: This might be a rivalry now. With two consecutive postseason meetings, and the chaos that happened in game 2 of the 2015 Playoffs between these two teams. I am willing to write it up, but I'll need some support. They might not be a rivalry in the future, near or distant, but there is some hatred between the two teams right now. Conyo14 (talk) 19:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically to be on this page, the rivalry needs to be talked about in depth in multiple sources. They need the same notability as other topics on wikipedia. -DJSasso (talk) 00:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

text: That's the problem I think, there are not many notable articles on the subject yet. I have a rough draft written down, but some of the reference i need don't exist.Conyo14 (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadiens vs Lightning 

message: If you think there should be a NOTABLE rivalry on the article please discuss it here on the talk page. Do not assume someone is going to write anything about an "Ottawa/Bruins" rivalry because they aren't. Just because the two teams had an altercation once or twice does not constitute a rivalry. This would be more between players not liking each other then getting into a brawl. Also MEETING ONCE IN THE PLAYOFFS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A RIVALRY! Rivalries can include geographic positioning, which on the East coast can mean more rivalries, or meeting several times in the playoffs i.e. Bruins/Canadiens. Wednesday Rivalry Night on NBC Sports may think that two teams are rivals when they really aren't i.e. Bruins/Capitals or Blackhawks/Capitals. They're just two teams with large fan bases facing each other in a regular season game. If the rivalry you post here is not notable (has references), then you may have to either wait for refs to appear or accept that they're not a rivalry.Conyo14 (talk) 04:41, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any Rivalry you think should be put on the article 

message: These two met 6 times in the playoffs within 7 seasons, I have a ref, it's not great but it can do. Comments?Conyo14 (talk) 00:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry past-Conyo14, but there aren't enough refs to support this rivalry, and I don't think the teams had a hatred with each other like other historic rivalries.Conyo14 (talk) 03:51, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historic: Dallas Stars v Edmonton Oilers 

message: If there are no comments for this section, then I will just add them myself. 
For the historic rivalries, I think that the years in which the rivalry lasted should be added, mainly because a historic rivalry like EDM–LA in which both teams still remain in the same division could cause some confusion as to why this rivalry is historic. This could also go for "current" rivalries in this article that aren't as prevalent (i.e. NYI–PIT, CHI–VAN). Conyo14 (talk) 04:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years for historic rivalries 

message: Why is this 'new' rivalry getting so much print? It's as long or longer, then the rivalries that go back decades. GoodDay (talk) 23:17, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This rivalry was made with the intention of proving it is indeed a rivalry, necessary edits to reduce it can be made, but it is unnecessary right now. Conyo14 (talk) 16:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penguins vs Blue Jackets 

message: Hey can I put up the link for the article I'm trying to create for this rivalry?  I really think this rivalry should have its own Wikipedia page. Jewel15 (talk) 04:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look up how to create a wiki article, and follow some of the formats of articles linked to this page, you'll be able to create a page. Make sure to create the page in your Sandbox first. If you're only using a mobile device, you will not be able to access your sandbox. Your specific page that you want to create is a rivalry so it usually has infobox, a history of the rivalry, and some notable moments. Most importantly though, your page has to have references/citations otherwise, the page gets knocked down. I hope this has helped. Conyo14 (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitals-Penguins Rivalry 

message: My team is the Red Wings, and as much as most Detroit fans hate the Pittsburgh Penguins (myself included), I would like others' opinions on whether the rivalry should be put under the "historical" section.  Meeting in back-to-back finals was a great accomplishment for both teams, the two cities are located less than 300 miles apart, and Sidney Crosby gets tar and feather treatment in Detroit anytime the Penguins go there, but no playoff meetings have occured since 2009.  Is it still a rivalry?  Let me know what you guys think. Jewel15 (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see too much hatred between the two teams themselves which is more important, but since they are in the same conference now, I am hesitant to make this rivalry historic. Wait until 2019 to make a decision. Conyo14 (talk) 17:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detroit-Pittsburgh 

message: I created the page.  Just waiting for Wikipedia to make a decision on whether it's legitimate.  I had trouble with creating the rivalry infobox, as I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.  If Wikipedia keeps the page up, and someone can access my page, can they fix the infobox for me?  I gave up.  Thanks! 
UPDATE:  Never mind, fixed it.  Forgot the two braces at the end of the infobox. Jewel15 (talk) 03:43, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Capitals-Penguins Rivalry]] 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Hi everyone, I just created a page for the rivalry between Los Angeles and San Jose.  Please feel free to check it out and make improvements to the article (with proper citation) if necessary.  Thanks! Jewel15 (talk) 21:39, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Kings vs Sharks

message: I am not contesting that these aren't hot rivalries right now, but why are they in the historical section while Detroit-Pittsburgh and Boston-Philadelphia are in their own conference's section? Jewel15 (talk) 15:32, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago-Vancouver and Edmonton-Los Angeles 

message: Is this a rivalry, there are not many references to prove this. The two do not face each other often, being in different divisions, and they have not met in the playoffs for a while. So the fans of New York are upset with John Tavares, does that make the players, the coaches, and more importantly the fans hate each other's teams? I have not seen much animosity between the two and that usually gets uncovered during the playoffs. Conyo14 (talk) 22:01, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Well per WP:BRD, your removal should be discussed after it was reverted, not the addition since it has already been there. This rivalry is relatively new, mostly because of just that, Tavares and Lou, but is one nevertheless. It doesn't merit its own article, but it certainly merits a paragraph here. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 22:30, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to provide at least two references that mention this "rivalry" then. (Please provide a free reference if you can) Otherwise anyone can add paragraphs on any two teams that meet each other yet have no historical background or continue to uphold said rivalry. Personally, I think huge brawls, playoff meetings, fans disliking each other, and coaches and players disliking each other make a rivalry. Geographic proximity makes it good too. Conyo14 (talk) 23:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: What are these random rules? There are plenty of sources. Obviously those things make it a stronger rivalry, but a rivalry can still exist without some of those things, most of which Islanders-Leafs have, especially the fans and management. I'm working on a Leafs-Boston rivalry page if you want to contribute; it's long overdue and doesn't even have its own paragraph here. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:32, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I just don't see it, sorry. I'd much rather have a rivalry that lasts, not one to be put in the historical section or deleted in three years by me or Dr. Pizza. Feel free to add the Bruins-Leafs rivalry though (maybe after Game 7?). Conyo14 (talk) 23:42, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, fine by me, maybe if it picks up more we'll see. For Bruins-Leafs it's pretty obvious and has some history; this was what I was going to use for some historical background followed by the ample sources for more recent times. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:47, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Run with it and put it back up. Both teams fanbases already hate each other as it is. And its WAY more of a rivalry than other rivalries that currently exist on here. Red Wings vs Leafs don't have a rivalry at all in reality right now because the Red Wings suck! Chicago vs Minnesota is on here despite its always one sided in Chicago's favor. And Chicago and LA's rivalry is dead and that is going in the historic area now as its been 5 years and both teams missed the playoffs.  So let him run with it! It is in my eyes a new rivalry that is valid.Dr. Pizza (talk) 06:14, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toronto New York Islanders Rivalry 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :National Hockey League rivalries's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "usatoday":
From Marty McSorley: McSorley profile, usatoday30.usatoday.com; accessed February 23, 2015.
From Calgary Flames: 
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:37, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:National Hockey League rivalries]] 

message: Just have a suggestion but I think there should be a section of inter-conference rivals as some teams hate each other in the other conference. I know they don't meet as much, therefore rivalry isn't there much but there are good games when it comes to inter-conference rivals.
Examples:
Edmonton Oilers vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Vancouver Canucks
Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Winnipeg Jets
Chicago Blackhawks vs. Detroit Red Wings
Nashville Predators vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.94.46.105 (talk) 14:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a WP:RS that details the fact that these are in fact rivals (I mean the last one sure, also Chicago-Detroit is covered in "historical rivalries"). Like as a Leafs fan, I think I can safely say that team does not have a rivalry with the Canucks, or the Jets (unless your referring to that whole Laine-Matthews thing, which was largely media manufactured as opposed to being on-ice... which in the case of Laine-Matthews, I'd think it would be more appropriate to discuss that in the articles on the individual players as opposed to a NHL-wide rivalry article). Leventio (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inter-conference rivals 

message: I cannot create your edit between the Anaheim Vs San Jose Because due to the redirect issues and
then the remove Main article the Opponents Was the Cheese That's BS. This is not a rivalry LOL. Andrei Kenshin (talk) 05:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ducks Vs Sharks rivalry 

message: There are several rivalries on here that are questionable at best. Many of these appear to just be pairings of teams in the same division, and the vast majority just have descriptions of playoff meetings or (rarely) the occasional brawl -- things that are both commonplace across the NHL and do not in themselves constitute a rivalry. In addition, none of these pairings have their own article page, and most sections have little sourcing or documentation to support the claim that an actual "rivalry" exists. These include Bruins v. Sabres (no sources given); Bruins v. Lightning (one source); Blue Jackets v. Penguins (one source, from Columbus); Islanders v. Flyers (no sources); Stars v. Blues (no sources); and Ducks v. Sharks (one source). While some of these sections could probably be beefed up with sources (I'm thinking Stars-Blues and maaaybe Ducks-Sharks), I would argue that the rest fail to meet notability standards and should be cut. Captain Parmenter (talk) 15:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup