Talk:Waltz

message: I changed "danced in closed position" to "doesn't break the embrace" in the international style waltz description, as there are figures in outside partner and promenade positions (which aren't closed). 69.86.197.221 (talk) 04:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can quote a few sentences, but you should, for the most part, put the information into your own words. --Fang Aili 21:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It cought my eye that the phenakistoscope shows the couple A) holding each other the wrong way, i.e. the man holding the lady's left hand with his right and the man holding her waist with his left while she is holding her hem with her right. This has never, to my knowledge, been the case. At least now, every type of walz (and other closed position dances, too) is/are danced the other way around, with the clasping hands being his left and her right. B)The partners are also on the wrong side of each other, as a person is always positioned slightly to the left of the other, from one's own perspective. C) The couple is doing a reverse turn (anti-clocwise), which is more uncommon than a natural turn (clockwise) -> The phenakistoscope image is reversed. You can easily see this on the text on the disc, e.g. the year 1893. I already requested the Wiki imagelab to edit the image.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiokumi (talk • contribs) 23:13, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Greetings from the Graphics Lab. Your request to have the image flipped (left to right) has had its validity questioned. Please return there for a fuller explanation but, basically, the image is fine as it is because the man is holding the woman's right hand in his left hand. You stated the opposite above, but you are mistaken. nagualdesign (talk) 01:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry Shiokumi, I got myself all confuddled looking at different animated gifs. But rather than flipping the animation I recommend simply swapping it for the non-mirrored version. Sorry about my mistake. nagualdesign (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The phenakistoscope

message: :-- Dance form --
:A typical waltz figure (from the man's perspective) starts lowered into the knees and travelling forward with a strong heel lead.  Count 2 rises and is taken on the ball of the foot, and count 3 starts on the ball of the foot and lowers to the heel as the couple begins to lower in preparation for the next measure.  A smooth rise-and-fall action is a primary characteristic of this dance.
The one who copied it here obviously does not know that there are numerous waltzes danced in a totally different way. mikka (t) 08:09, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dleted section 

message: The article could really do with a history section from someone who knows more about it. As far as I remember, when the waltz first came onto the scene it was considered very risqué - almost scandalous - because it was the first time in "polite society" that two dancers spent the whole dance with their bodies so close together. Can anyone add this? I don't really know the details, or have any supporting references. -- Hux 19:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: "Shocking many when it was first introduced" - anyone know why it was shocking? Was it just because it was new and different, or something else?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.131.166 (talk) 03:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Where does the name come from? Gingermint (talk) 01:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Why is country western waltz 99% progressive? isn't that a bit arbitrary? -80.195.15.86 (talk) 18:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Question2 

message: Shouldn't this paragraph be regular, instead of mostly bold and italicized? It seems to start at a random point and doesn't appear to be highlighting anything. Also, why is there an apostrophe in place of the word "waltz" after "that would evolve into the"? Again also, there's a typo in the eighth paragraph, where there's a seemingly useless comma in between a year and the end punctuation.
24.6.248.169 (talk) 02:40, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Section 

message: I am confused as to why the Seikilos epitaph is mentioned in the History section—while it is in triple time it is not a direct predecessor of the waltz nor in 3/4 time as a waltz should be. Isn't that a bit misleading as to what a waltz is? The article does have an audio link to the epitaph after all. I suggest that the misleading photos and audio files be removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:582:C100:8C5:A1EF:7C07:87CF:2B18 (talk) 18:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seikilos epitaph? 

message: I find the statement, "In the 19th and early 20th century, numerous different waltz forms existed, including versions performed in 3/4, 3/8 or 6/8 (sauteuse), and 5/4 time (5/4 waltz, half and half)."
I am aware of examples of most of these; however, I've not encountered any piece in 5/4 which was styled a "waltz".  While I have no doubt that someone, somewhere has done this, still, it would be nice to cite an example or two of a waltz in each of these meters, for the edification of those who have only experienced waltzes in 3/4 time.
Also, I see no mention of the Ragtime waltz, which certainly preceded the jazz waltz, and was reasonably popular in its day (Examples:  Pleasant Moments and Bethena (et al), by Scott Joplin; Celestine Waltzes, by Joseph Lamb; Springtime of Love, by James Scott, etc.).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 19:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples