Talk:Nemenčinė

message: Placing the Polish name for this small town in the lead, which prior to the Second World War, was primarily a Litvak shtetl, is undue and unnecessary. Dr. Dan (talk) 19:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How about the fact that 55% of the current population is Polish?radek (talk) 20:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

text: So where would you put it? Once again, you've removed (instead of simply moving) information from Wikipedia, and once again, it's not the German name for a French town, or Swedish name for a Finnish town, or any of the countless other places where Wikipedia routinely includes alternative names for places (and yes, usually in the lead), but as always - it's a Polish name for a Lithuanian town. How am I supposed not to conclude that you have something specifically against Poland or Polishness?--Kotniski (talk) 09:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:UNDUE]]

message: Re other versions of the name include Nementchin (נעמענטשין) in Yiddish, Niemenczyn in Polish. Actually "Nementchin" isn't used much in Yiddish  (3 hits). Generally the Yiddish name is the same as the Polish name "Niemenczyn":  (39 hits of which 6 out of the first 10 have to do with Jewish history (page actually gives 45 but I looked through them and 6 of them are non-English)). (Nemenčinė gets about 69 hits; 97 minus 28 non-English ones I counted radek (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know anything about the Yiddish names, but I don't see the relevance of these searches - you'd need to search sources written in Yiddish, not English.--Kotniski (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  incorrect ... well, inaccurate, info 

message: Sorry to offend anyone's sensitivities, but this place is more than 50% inhabited by Poles - there can't be any reasonable doubt that the Polish name belongs in the lead in this case.--Kotniski (talk) 08:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry but people keep removing this without joining in the discussion. I know it's "already present in the names section", but this is a far more significant name than any others in that section, being (apparently) the name used for the place even today by the majority of its inhabitants. If it was in South Tyrol, the Polish name would be the title of the article - I don't think that should be the case, but certainly by normal Wikipedia standards, a name of that level of significance would always be placed in the lead, even if it's mentioned further in the article as well.--Kotniski (talk) 10:19, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Claiming that Polish people live there is irrelevant. Now, if you have reliable sources that they use the Polish-language name instead of what's apparently the current legal name of the city, that would be useful. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, why is it irrelevant? Presumably they (and most others) use the Polish-language name when speaking Polish (for example, the agreement downloadable from here, an official document signed by the town's elder and regional mayor, uses Niemenczyn). Why is there such resistance (I'm genuinely curious to know) among editors of Lithuania-related articles to doing something that everywhere else in Wikipedia is accepted without question?--Kotniski (talk) 12:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Claiming that Polish people live there is irrelevant. It's really appalling to hear such nonsense from a Wikipedia Administrator. Far for being irrelevant, it's the decisive reason for inclusion here. In fact even if there would a significant historical population it would be enough for inclusion but here the Poles are even the majority of the population. It's an almost tragicomic situation, there are many Polish cities and towns which have the German name in the lead, even if there are no Germans living there, but because more than 60 years ago Germans lived there. Here the majority of the population is Polish and we have to go trough all this crazy drama.  Dr. Loosmark  15:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Again. It's not who lives there -- it's what they call it. Sources, please. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:56, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I've just given one pretty conclusive source - Googling reveals countless others of various types. What exactly is the problem here?--Kotniski (talk) 16:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

text:  Sarek I don't know if you are from US or what but in Europe I don't think there is any minority, anywhere, which would not use their native tongue for the name of the location they live in.  Dr. Loosmark  17:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Umm, above it's stated several times that Polish people form the majority in Nemenčinė. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  But they do, which make it even more obvious that the Polish name should be in the lead. My point is that even if there would a minority the name should be in lead. Here it's much more than that so it's very obvious the Polish name should be there.  Dr. Loosmark  21:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name in lead

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Nemenčinė. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150801051703/http://osp.stat.gov.lt/en/2011-m.-surasymas to http://osp.stat.gov.lt/en/2011-m.-surasymas
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:11, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified