Talk:Alboin

message: Alboïn was killed in 572 at Verona by (H)Elmechi(s) [Helmgis, Helmgeis, Helmgies], his horseman, the lover of Ros(a)munda (or Rosemonde). Calabria Geoffrey, from France.
:Added this info with quotation of Paulus, reference to Charles Oman, and link to external translation of the text.  Hope this is good enough. Srnec 20:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally! I hope you agree your effort was worth it! Now the colorfulness comes right from the source. And now the literary conventions that the reader detects in the dramatic vignette can be fruitfully discussed. --Wetman 22:08, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree myself.  This is much better.  The effort was worth it, but I don't believe the original revert was entirely necessary.  All's well that end's well and once again Wikipedia proves that it is possible for folks who don't even know each other to help create a source of truthful information for everybody.  Srnec 04:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: older entries

message: This vita still needs a succinct opening paragraph summarizing the salient events of Alboin's career. --Wetman 07:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph 

message: Just added a note about Tolkien's use of Alboin; is this in the proper format?  I'm not accustomed to adding "literary uses" sections.  Nyttend 01:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "In an early version of J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy time-travel story The Lost Road, Tolkien considered placing one of his main characters in the person of Alboin." ...but didn't. It does seem like a minor factoid, even at The Lost Road. I didn't delete it here: but does this add anything at all to the Wikipedia reader's picture of Alboin?--Wetman 23:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tolkien? 

message: This has been anonymously deleted: "Alboin had vowed to put all the citizens of the captured cities to death. " If it is a remark in a source, it should be returned, with its source.--Wetman 23:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction?

message: is very similar to Albin, meaning "white". But the normal French version of Albin is Aubin. The similar name Alvin has the same root as Alboin, namely Ælfwine, meaning "elf friend", but also, it seems, "Edelwine", meaning "noble friend". According to the article Audoin comes from Eadwine (Edwin), meaning "wealth friend". I would say it looks most obviously similar to the Norwegian names Audun and Audvin, with the same meaning, also interpreted as "gifted".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.40.128.194 (talk) 18:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name Alboin 

message: I'm concerned that in the body of the article there is almost a complete dearth of dates. It's just "then he did this, then he did that," with no dates to nail down exactly (or even approximately) when any of these events occurred. There also seems to be far too much dramatic storytelling, recounting of obvious legends, and so on -- and not nearly enough history. This especially true of the section on his assassination, which is pure melodrama. --Michael K. Smith (talk) 00:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates and drama? 

message: There's currently the phrase "Gepids' king Thurisind" in the article. I'm wondering if it would be correct to rephrased this to "Gepid king Thurisind"? Have you seen phrases like "Gepid culture" and "Gepid armies"? Nev1 (talk) 23:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, I'll write it that way, it seems better, and yes, I remember a chapter in a book titled "Gepid culture", so it's fine. Thanks for the input. Aldux (talk) 23:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gepids

message: "kidnapping of Cunimund's daughter Rosamund, whom she was immediately forced to marry."  This syntax should mean that some woman was forced to marry Rosamund.  Please fix as appropriate.
4.249.63.17 (talk) 23:51, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bad grammmar 

message: Early history of southern Europe is a long way from being a specialist subject of mine, but I have to query the grounds for frequent references to Italy in the 6th century.  Was there any meaningful sense in which there was an entity called Italy at that time?  Kevin McE (talk) 23:57, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Italy" is fine in the period following the Gothic War, but "Venetia" before the founding even of Venice itself? Not so good.--Wetman (talk) 01:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

text: I'm too hasty: just ignore me: Regio X was that of Venetiae et Histriae.--Wetman (talk) 01:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronistic place names? 

message: The Gepids obtained the support of the Emperor in exchange for a promise to cede him the region of Sirmium. I surmise that the "him" here is Cunimund.  But the wording is too unclear to edit.--Wetman (talk) 00:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which "him"? 

message: I changed the map that contains the extension of the Lombard kingdom at the death of Alboin (572), because it's wrong: the duchies of Benevento, Spoleto and Tuscia were created only since 575/576, year of the decisive defeat of Baduarius and the rebellion of the Lombards who were foederatus of the Empire (Zotto and Faroald). --Glz19 (talk) 10:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we have a source for :File:Kingdom of the Lombards 572.svg @Glz19? A455bcd9 (talk) 10:27, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @A455bcd9 I created the map from this one removing the duchies of Tuscia, Spoleto and Benevento, that were founded after the death of Alboin, according to modern historiography (about the last two see Jarnut, Storia dei Longobardi, p. 34). The map can be improved (I'm not sure about the territory of Isola Comacina and the border with the imperial Liguria). --Glz19 (talk) 13:47, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Glz19. Thanks for your help. I've updated the description and the source of :File:Kingdom of the Lombards 572.svg and :File:Alboin's Italy-it.svg: are they correct? a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 14:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @A455bcd9 It's ok for my map (for the other one I can't check the source), thank you --Glz19 (talk) 23:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 08:10, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map