Talk:Triple Crown of Motorsport

message: Juan pablo isnt the only active driver to win 2 legs as Villneuve is competing in the 24 hours of le mans.
:Villeneuve has not won two of the three.  If he does, he will be a second active one. --Chr.K. 00:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Villeneuve only won the Indy 500 of these three. However, I heard the term Triple Crown used to describe the Indy 500, F1 World Championship and 24 of Le Mans (which Villeneuve would have completed had he won at Le Mans) --Kelsomallette 03:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://sport.guardian.co.uk/motorsport/story/0,,2104097,00.html also says the Triple Crown is Indy 500, F1 World Championship & 24 Hour Le Mans. If that is the case, Hill is still the only Triple Crown winner, but Montoya isn't even close... Can someone come up with a source verifying that the Monaco F1 GP is a part of the Triple Crown? Otherwise I'd suggest we change the page. --Fred Bradstadt 12:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Villeneuve 

message: The interesting part of this is, that Hill is the last le mans winner on this list. This is even more interesting, as Jim Clark (the only driver without a le mans win being added to this list before Hill) had a second place there - but out of the other four (and adding to this Nigel Mansell, who won both titles, but not their major events) only two even ever started in le mans - Andretti several times with one second place, Villeneuve with one start and only a 30th place). --TheK (talk) 23:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Le Mans is an endurance race, so it demands different skills compared to speed racing. Many people who has made good results in F1 or CART has failed in Le Mans and many who were good in Le Mans never had any luck in F1 or CART. John Anderson  (talk) 09:40, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  definition... 

message: I thought it'd be interesting to add a constructors' section of the Triple Crown of Motorsport. When the crown is considered to consist of Indy, Le Mans and Monaco, both McLaren and Mercedes are the only constructors to have won all three. Only McLaren succeeded to take the other definition of the crown, with the F1 Constructors' championship instead of the Monaco Grand Prix. (Should one opt to look at the Drivers' title in this matter, which appears to be illogical, it's also McLaren and Mercedes, by the way). Lustigson (talk) 08:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken the liberty of adding the section myself. Hope you like it. Lustigson (talk) 14:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Indeed, I can't find any reference anywhere to a constructors triple crown. I'm concerned that us at Wikipedia have effectively invented it. If we can't find any reference to such a thing anywhere (I note this morning that Williams (!) was being used to justify a Triple Crown for Ford) then I am going to strongly suggested deleting the Constructors section as a violation of WP:OR. --Falcadore (talk) 00:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only ever heard of the Triple Crown in reference to drivers. Per Falcadore's comment, if we can't find a reliable source for a constructors Triple Crown, the section should be deleted. DH85868993 (talk) 00:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Lustigson (talk) 14:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The section has been removed (in November 2010). DH85868993 (talk) 01:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triple Crown for Constructors 

message: I see a few webpages here and there, a couple recent press articles which make a passing mention of it (some possibly influenced by this wiki), often in a short and informal manner. But I do not see consistent and widespread recognition of this achievement by officials and observers of the race driving world, like the grand slam in tennis. It seems to me that the term's occurrence is limited to a few articles about Graham Hill, and this wikipage has been taylor-made as a tribute to his achievement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.233.107.169 (talk) 05:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it have to be a formal title? It is not a formal title but it is nevertheless widely accepted and discussed over many decades, since the 1960s at least. That ongoing discussion over such a long period of time certainly meets notability standards. --Falcadore (talk) 11:55, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this really a formal, accepted term?

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message: Where is Alonso? I am quite sure he is actively trying to get the prize...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.82.195.27 (talk) 18:56, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have renamed the "Active competitors" section to reflect that it only discusses active competitors who have completed two legs of the Triple Crown. In theory any active competitor could claim to be "pursuing the Triple Crown". DH85868993 (talk) 09:46, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

text: Sheesh. Alonso has entered one non-F1 triple crown event once (and failed to finish) and he must already be included because he's "pursuing the triple crown"? At least Nico Hülkenberg  won when he ventured into a non-F1 triple crown event. If he wins in Monaco one of the upcoming seasons, he'll have completed two legs of the Triple Crown.Tvx1 19:15, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fernando Alonso 

message: Mark Webber has a Monaco Win (2010) and Le Mans (2015), and im sure theres a few others. Id edit the table myself but im unfamiliar with the syntax.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.143.32 (talk) 22:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Webber has not won the 24 Hours of Le Mans. He finished second in 2015. He won the 2015 FIA World Endurance Championship, but that's not the same thing. DH85868993 (talk) 01:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

text: If you are sure there are others, find them! --Falcadore (talk) 09:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Webber/Others 

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message: Is racing really the only kind of motorsport? Grassynoel (talk) 05:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No: Motorsport#Non-racing_disciplines lists several non-racing forms of motorsport. DH85868993 (talk) 05:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motorsport 

message: Can anyone show a serious motor sport source that shows the Triple Crown to include Monaco rather than the WDC?  Literally every single source from before at least 1995 has it as WDC and not Monaco.  In Vitrio (talk) 18:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This article from Reuters does a pretty good job of covering the disagreement. And as an unofficial title, that kind of disagreement is somewhat expected. Bakkster Man (talk) 19:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Misses out a lot though.  Like NOBODY thought it was Monaco until a mistake by David Tremayne in the Independent.  Graham Hill even had a trophy with it inscribed after he won Le Mans from the BRCDC. In Vitrio (talk) 20:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What's important is what people think now. That being, if you can find sources which confirm that F1 Championship came before Monaco GP , we could include that in a history section. SSSB (talk) 06:19, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Same with David Tremayne. We reflect what secondary sources say, and if there's a reliable source indicating that's where the change came from we can include it. Bakkster Man (talk) 12:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Triple Crown