Talk:Rodeo Drive

message: We have looked over the notable people that you included on the page. We are curious as to why they should be included in any part of this page. There was no description and no connection to Rodeo Drive on their own Wikipedia page. If these people are to be included on the page, there should be a description of their relevance, rather than a simple tagline. We are trying to add people that are synonymous with Rodeo Drive and often associated with the street. Jbrubins (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a super-good question.  There's not really a fixed standard for notable people to list in association with a street, although there's a well-accepted (but not mandatory) one for notable people to list in connection with cities, found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline#Notable_people.  My feeling, and this is open to discussion, is that with a short street like this one, since it's feasible to include every notable person that's lived on the street or had some important relationship with the street (important defined by reliable sources), we can mimic that guideline.  This wouldn't be possible with longer streets though, and maybe it's not desirable here.  But Julia Roberts and Eddie Murphy are stretches; what's their relationship to the street?  The street wasn't mentioned in the sources given.  Anyway, yes, let's talk about how we should decide who goes on such a list or even whether such a list is desirable.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:12, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Oh, one more thing.  It's generally not important to an article about a person that they lived on a street in the way it may be important to an article about a street that a person lived on it, which is why I didn't add the fact that those people lived on Rodeo to their articles.  It's like how there are "George Washington slept here" historical markers all over the place, and it may be appropriate to mention those facts in the articles on the places, but it's not important to list them all in the article on George Washington.  Thus "synonymous with the street" is almost certainly too strong a standard.  Who's synonymous with a street?  Certainly not Julia Roberts and Eddie Murphy with this one.  Of course, this is subject to sourcing.  If you have sources that say "X is synonymous with Rodeo Drive" then by all means, add them.  Probably only Fred Hayman meets that standard, but he's mentioned in the body of the article so probably doesn't belong on the list.  Plus it's standard not to put people on these embedded lists until they already have an article.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.  Do you have a comment on the issue that this section is about?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, my comment was that I haven't found the significance in the Notable people section. I noticed that you had added to the page, and was wondering why you didn't add onto the sections that were already formed. Your contributions are greatly appreciated, however I think we are thinking of this street in a completely different way. Many others have tried to add on the shops, which is why the street still exists in the first place, however its been almost a decade and the shops are still missing from the page. How is it that a reputable street such as 5th avenue has added their shops and only has a small history section, and Rodeo Dr. isn't allowed the same treatment?152.7.224.7 (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh. Is this the same conversation we're having below in the section on shopping?  If so, my answer's there.  If not, I'm not really sure what you mean.  "Many others have tried to" do things isn't really an argument for doing things, you know.  In fact, if "many others" have failed, it might just be that you have an argument against your own conclusion.  Just look at the eternal problem of invading Moscow.  P.S. I don't know how interested in rhetoric you are, but you might note that passive-aggressiveness can signal consciousness of the weakness of one's position.  Just sayin'...— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable People

message: Hi all, welcome to Wikipedia. I see that this article is a subject of a   student assignment and I feel its a great way to begin your journey into scholastic research and peer-review. I came across this article in a DRN and yes, I am quite impressed by your efforts. But, on a sober note I see that articles are to be reviewed on a Good Article criteria, and that is a tall order, even for experienced Wikipedia editors. So lets get started
# Good article criteria - Have you gone through the criteria for  Project U.S. Streets and  Project California? This should be your assessment standard.
# Undue Weight - Yes, I get it. Rodeo Drive is best known for its shopping experience, and yes, it has been called a Mecca for shopping, but as user  has pointed out, that makes the article tilted in one direction. To try and make this article more balanced, read on.
# Break it up - Now that we have addressed undue weight, lets try and make this article more balanced. Can we try and add sections to this article? How about adding a section for Cultural Significance, fiction, significance for the fashion industry , architecture on the street, notable buildings etc. ? I came across a lot of stuff related to this on Google Books. Why don't you try and explore these directions?
Here are some tips that I hope will be helpful
# List down everything that has been published about Rodeo Drive, including books, magazines etc.
# Sort the list into categories
# Drill down via Google Search, Google books, your own library etc. till you get content that can be attributed to reliable tertiary sources (WP:RELIABLE) and ensure that you present all sides to ensure neutrality (WP:NPOV).
This will cover 60-80% of the ground. The rest is your efforts. Keep typo to a minimum and ensure the article is readable and not confusing. That's it! Best of Luck--Wikishagnik (talk) 22:35, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A note to Assignment Students