Talk:Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

message: I've removed  based on the same logic that I used at Talk:Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This office is a military office and not a political one. I think there is some confusion is because Congress has to approve it. But Congress has an incredible amount of oversight and control over the military... for example, the authority to promote an officer to a higher grade is derived from Congress, but that doesn't make every promotion a political act either. Note that I've done the same at the Chairman's page. bahamut0013wordsdeeds  05:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: Re: this edit diff by User:Eyer which removed all capitalization of "Vice Chairman" in the article, citing MOS:JOBTITLES.  Would like to have a discussion as to if/how that would apply to this article.
While there are some specific spots where the lowercase seems appropriate, others, like the title, seem to warrant Upper Case (which I re-added in this edit).  
Opinions?  — MrDolomite • Talk 04:59, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Titles modified by adjectives, including articles like “the’ are lowercase. See MOS:JOBTITLES. —Eyer (If you reply, add  to your message to let me know.) 05:03, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Per Wikipedia:Article titles and Wikipedia:Official names and the official VJCS page here ("the position of Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,"), I would disagree and have reverted your edit to the article title.  While the rest of the capitalization is up for debate, the title, in my opinion, is not. — MrDolomite • Talk 05:20, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia doesn’t capitalize “The President of the United States” on its page, so why should we capitalize “The Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff”? MOS:JOBTITLES is clear: modified job titles aren’t capitalized. —Eyer (If you reply, add  to your message to let me know.) 05:29, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: I would like to also point out that the U.S. military is in fact, supposed to follow, the Associated Press style book for job titles as seen HERE, with only a few exceptions that is covered in their own style guide.  For example, the Chief of Naval Operations is lowercase when it succeeds a person's name. Neovu79 (talk) 21:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization? 

message: :Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff →  – Given the clear consensus in the above discussion (and many similar discussion on other pages about various offices and titles), this should be moved per MOS:JOBTITLES and to agree with the actual text in the article.  There are probably a lot of other such pages that need to be moved, but we might as well start somewhere.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:25, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 October 2020 [aborted]