Talk:Kung Fu Hustle

message: "Many early fight scenes were packed with real Chinese martial arts."
Shouldn't that be:
"Many early fight scenes were packed with real Chinese martial artists."
I think it's referring to the number of martial arts, not the practicers  -tinlv7
:tinlv was right.  I wrote that paragraph originally back in Aug 2005.  I meant to say many different disciplines of martial arts, such as fists, kicks, staff, qigong etc.  I never meant martial artists.  Kowloonese 23:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: I've removed the following text:
:NOTE: These slightly exaggerated special abilities were mentioned in a U.S. advertising campaign for the movie.
:* Sing: Blasts running speeds up to 250 mph. Busts through metal, copper, and granite. Flies at 32,000 feet above ground.
:* Sing's Sidekick: Eats a 12 course meal in 3.3 minutes flat. Creates earthquakes of 8.8 on the Richter scale. Crushes any man or woman in his seating path.
:* Landlord: Kisses and accosts women at speeds of 132 mph. Cowers in fear from wife.
:* Landlady: Speeds at 252 mph to form dust clouds 104 feet high. Screams at 3,031 decibels that have made men's ears bleed.
:* Brother Sum: Killer breath can bring any man or woman to their knees. Dances until his feet bleed.
:* The Beast: Transforms body into a slimy bullfrog. Possesses the fastest kung fu fighting style ever.
:* Donut: Slams foes with his baking rod at 153 mph. Forms tornadoes 200 feet high with winds of 354 mph.
:* Tailor: Deadly steel rings can knock down evildoers and evil spirits. Delivers blows at 143 mph.
:* Coolie: Can kick the assses of 45 men while carrying 28 sacks of grain. Literally kicked the crap out of a man with a force of 167 mph.
:* Lollipop Girl: Scoops ice cream with deadly precision. One stare into her lollipop will make you relive bad memories.
:* #1 Killers (a.k.a. The Harpists): Can strum ghosts and knives at 200 mph from their harp. Can decapitate with a single strum of a chord.
I'm glad the "NOTE" is there, but it's not enough. I'd love to see a section about the various characters and their powers, but the above is poorly written and not even accurate to the film. Maybe someone can rework it? --Staecker 05:21, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lame "Powers" text

message: This movie is like Napoleon Dynamite-- The audience loves it, even though there's actually nothing to it but clichés which literally get the shit beat out of them (as do most things in this movie). 
To be fair, Napoleon Dynamite's bullettime scenes were only in how slow the characters thought. All of them, multiplied together, gets an IQ of less than 50.
Is this the new style? To have something suck so badly (saving special effects) that people can't help but love it? I am going to kill someone; this is the new blockbuster style.
And before anyone starts trying to find out where I live, so they can hunt me down, I will reinforce that crochety old man persona with these parting words:
Pfeh! Bah humbug! Hrmph!
Good day, sir.
...no, nonononononjesusfuckingchristno! Don't say anything. Think first this time.
I said good day, sir.
:Why don't you ignore the silly parts of the movie and just enjoy the fight scenes.  They are great Kung Fu by some real martial artists.  The moves are still great despite the computer enhenced imagery.  BTW, this is not new style.  Stephen Chow has been doing this kind of silly movies for decades.  It is the opposite, the Western audience is new to his mo lei tau style. If you don't like it, just ignore it the same way you ignore all his other movies. Kowloonese 21:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Napoleon Factor 

message: I'm changing Guzheng to Gu Qin because the song that was played during the Harpist battle was called "The Blade of Gu Qin"
*It's not strictly a guqin because it it organologically incorrect. The guqin does not have bridges. The 'instrument' in the film is a semi-hybrid of guqin (the main body of the instrument) and guzheng (the bridges and the sound). --CharlieHuang 21:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gu Qin 

message: The scene with the street car is a movie set commonly used to depict Shanghai in the 1930's or earlier era.  Back then, there was not many places in China that had that kind of buildings and traffic conditions.  People grew up in Shanghai probably can identify which cross street that was.  Despite there was no mention of where the city was, the street scene positively identified Shanghai.  Likewise, do you have to spell out New York, NY after you show the Empire State building?  Kowloonese 00:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that one reason why Shanghai was changed to fictious city was because of the Cantonese spoken by the residents there.  If the same logic applies, then the story in the Memoir of a Geisa took place in a fictious English city because the residents there spoke English.  Kowloonese 00:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article's really deteriorated since I visited back in 2006.  The reference to Shanghai is now changed to Canton, China.  Besides, the introduction and the plot section are different, one says Canton and the other says Shanghai. IMHO, the movie is set in Shanghai, see my argument above. I am okay with fictious city, but not Canton. Kowloonese (talk) 09:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: fictitious city or Shanghai?

message: This movie is set around the 1930/40s.  In one scene, Sing flashes back to his childhood; assuming Sing is in his late twenties/early thirties in this movie, and assuming he was no more than 9/10/11 in the flashback, the flashback took place around 1910 or 1920, however powerlines are clearly visible in the background.  I'm not sure if 1920s Hong Kong had bulk power grids and power lines like that. --67.181.131.193 07:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The street cars and the street scenes looks more like Shanghai than Hong Kong.  I believe back then Hong Kong was just a rural village compare to the big Shanghai metropolitan.  Kowloonese 22:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Slip up? 

message: Does a version of the Axe Gang appear in Project A II?  I know it's in Drunken Master 2.--MythicFox 02:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone know the real history of Shanghai back in the 1930s?  Was the Axe Gang a real group back then?  Many Chinese gangster movies are set at the same time and same place so some of the characters may be based on some historical figures.  Kowloonese 22:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Axe Gang 

message: what does "hustle" exactly mean in the title?--Sonjaaa 01:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could also be taken to mean "to cheat or trick," as Sing and his partner do during the beginning of the film. The hermit basically "hustled" Sing with the pamphlets, even though it turned out they were of some value. That's what I took beyond the dance allusion. Cybertooth85 04:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it is related to hustling as in The Hustler (film). Kowloonese (talk) 09:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: hustle

message: Hi,
According to www.sonyclassics.com : 
*Chan Kwok Kuen = Chan Kwok Kwan
*Lam Chi Chung  = Lam Tze Chung 
I also added a redlink to the actress who plays Sing's deaf love interest, according to the same site. No mention of her in this article??
--Ling.Nut 20:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  romanization & redirects; no mention of deaf woman? 

message: I've reverted 3 edits made by anons and a user because:
*The first edit is incorrect: God of Cookery contains a serious tone at the end.
*The second edit removed detail from the plot, whereas it is already concise enough according to The WikiProject Films.
*The third edit again is incorrect, Chow has chosen to avoid using modern music at all costs in the fight scenes, so no Matrix music in the film.
Thank you for your attention.--Kylohk 09:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding today's triple revert 

message: Does anybody know what the movie's release date was in HK itself?  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The release date is December 23, 2004.--Kylohk 15:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was released in Canada before it was in HK?  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: World premiere at Toronto International Film Festival, before general release in Hong Kong and other territories. — WiseKwai 18:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it goes with many films. The world can get a very advanced glimpse into it when they attend those film festivals. So get ready to buy tickets for the next event in Cannes!--Kylohk 19:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HK release date? 

message: OK - I feel it passes all criteria but there are just a few very minor issues below:cheers,  Cas Liber | talk  |  contribs 02:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: In Indonesia, there was a DVD titled "Kungfu Hustle 2". Although the cast were the same (the beast, the axe gang leader and the fatty one is also there), there are no parodies. Then i started to realize this is a hoax, as i didn't find the information anywhere, even wiki. Perhaps it was another movie renamed into this movie's sequel. Should we write this in the trivia page or not? In case several people got it too...
Reinn 10:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh huh. Turns out the actual movie titled "Kung Fu Fighter". Reinn 07:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are lot of examples of pirated unknown movies re-titled (by the perpetrator) as fake sequel of famous movie. The  M.O. has long existed as far as I know back to late 90s when VCD started to become popular in South East Asia. I still one of the earlier example was a fake sequel of Armageddon in 1999 ( I wasn't tricked but lot of my friends in Indonesia got tricked). I don't think that kind of information can be included in wikipedia Kunderemp 18:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kungfu Hustle 2 hoax 

message: Here are just some points which I would like to mention, regarding recent good faith edits.
*Please consistently use British English in the entire article, the film is made in Hong Kong, which uses British English.
*Also, in the Parodies and References section, please only add content that is related to the Cantonese language version of the film. I've watched the film in the English dub, and they aren't saying exactly the same things as the original version. The original version should be the one that's considered to be "correct", since it can be certain that those are Stephen Chow's own ideas. Thanks.--Kylohk 10:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some notes on edits 

message: According to her IMDB bio, she starred in that James Bond movie at the age of 24.  Is there another source that says she was 18 when she was in that movie?  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuen Qiu age 

message: Hope you don't mind, but i put back the linking  on the awards section
I do not understand why you removed them after all that work!
(I know that you put them in there)
It may be that you don't like the repetition, I don't either, but it's better than having to scroll up and down looking for a repeat of the name just to get a link.
Anyway, good work and carry on editing !!
Chaosdruid (talk) 04:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  202.61.162.235 

message: Hi - On behalf of all the editors who made this article the wonderful work it is, thanks !
I have had to remove the Kung Fu Panda reference, not because of that reason but because the ref does not link to any article about either Kung Fu Hustle or Kung Fu Panda. Also the only mention is a snippet and if you read the Kung Fu Panda wiki article it states that the idea for KFP was around since 1993, a long time before before Kung Fu Hustle
... Kong "will provide the voice for the title character in "Kung Fu Panda." The computer-animated picture was reportedly inspired by Stephen Chow's action ..."
Reportedly cannot be deemed to be a reference of fact. "Bolstering this, Kung Fu Hustle reportedly inspired the 2008 animated martial arts film Kung Fu Panda,Gaul, Lou. (November 4, 2005) Bucks County Courier Times. 1104 Film Clips. Section: ToDo; Page 2E. which includes Jackie Chan as the character, Master Monkey."
--Chaosdruid (talk) 02:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks  SF whoever you are ! lol 

message: There's no information on critical response other than from US critics in the article. Considering this is an FA, there should also be Hong Kong reviews or at least something from Chinese-language critics.
Peter Isotalo 13:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-US criticism 

message: The Featured Article Review comments (above) suggest that the Cast section "can be eliminated without much tweaking of the previous section."  What do people think about integrating this section into List of characters in Kung Fu Hustle?
Steve, if you see this, would that be appropriate?  -- Pslide (talk) 18:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move or eliminate Cast section? 

message: The Beast's smashing of Sing's head is a clear reference of Terminator 3 where T-X smashes T-800's head in the same way. This reference should be added Triadwarfare (talk) 09:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Terminator 3? Where is it? 

message: I've slightly made some changes on the article, as seen, son for the main contributor of this article, would you try out another WP:FA? World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 06:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA 

message: In the article, it says
:A major element of the plot is based on the 1982 martial arts film Ru Lai Shen Zhang (如來神掌). Sing studied the same Buddhist Palm Kung Fu style from a young age and realised it at the end of the film.
The Buddhist Palm first appeared in a series of Hong Kong wuxia movies back in the 60's.  The 1982 reference is two decades too late. Many movies including the 1982 rendition of the story are copies from the series from the 1960s.  This [youtube video] explains what Buddhist Palm is by the master himself in one of the original movies.  [This one] (dated 1964) shows how the last (9th) Buddhist Palm routine was recovered from a palm print inside a  ding left by the master who wanted to conceal the ultimate technique.  This [| link] in the reference section has the description of the 1964 film series.
I've changed the 1982 reference to 1964.
-- Kowloonese (talk) 06:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong year for the reference 

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message: what is a "traffic pulpit", please? --142.163.194.97 (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: it is a lot like a traffic island. it is usually a concrete block or platform large enough for a person to stand on be clearly seen by traffic. at a busy intersection a traffic cop or other person can stand on the traffic pulpit and direct traffic. This might be to override traffic lights, such as during rush hour or due to a traffic collision, or the junction may not have any traffic lights at all. -- 109.79.178.107 (talk) 15:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "traffic pulpit" 

message: In April 2020 shared a list of great action films including Kung Fu Hustle: James Gunn Shares List of His 54 Favorite Action Movies of All Time. In November 2021 Gunn named Kung Fu Hustle as the greatest action film ever made.
Might be worth mentioning in the Reception section, alongside the opinion from  Bill Murray. -- 109.79.178.107 (talk) 15:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and added it myself. -- 109.79.178.107 (talk) 00:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Gunn 

message: I think there needs to be some edits for the background section. I tried to tidy up the grammar mistakes but there is still some work to be done. It is not clear what the historical context is for this movie and I am not sure the story behind the movie is accurately reflected. I can go through this section later and try to find more relevant citations. DCD331 (talk) 19:03, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  background section 

message: I’m going to have to dig up an article that I read about KFH years ago that mentioned a number of elements that seem to have otherwise avoided being mentioned here. 
The points, as I recall, were:
The deadliest assassin in China wasn’t detained and placed in an insane asylum. Driven by his competitive nature, the Beast of the Red Cloud realized that the lack of competition would eventually drive him out of his mind so he ended up walking into the asylum, choosing a room then sitting down to wait until he goes mad.  
The Landlord and Lady, who had both been legendary fighters in their youth, had a son about the age of Song. He had attempted to follow in their footsteps only to be beaten to death as they watched during his first match. As a result, they had taken a vow to never raise a fist against another. When things started to fall apart in Pig Sty Alley - especially after the arrival of the musicians - they realize that they only have one of two options now: they can continue observing their vow, which will head to the deaths of everyone in Pig Sty Alley, or they can break the vow that they made to their late son. 
(Song is also a proxy for their late son hence the seemingly random comment from the Landlady during the final fight “If our son were alive he’d be his age now.”)
The Beast’s need for competition was so strong that, after he recognized that Song was the Natural Master, he broke every bone in his body during the fight in the casino to open up his chakras (also knowing that the Landlord and Lady would be able to heal him). 
Having “reset” his chakras, the Natural Master would be freed and the Beast could finally have the challenge that he needs so desperately.
As the Landlord himself says, “[w]ho knew that the Beast could clear the chi flow and thus unlock the boy’s [aka Sing’s] true potential?”
(For what it’s worth, the Beast looks bored every time he fights because he knows that he’s already won the fight before it’s even started) 
I’d assumed that at least some of this was bad translation and sloppy
editing. (Why one throw-away reference to their son at the very end of the movie??)
Hopefully I can dig this article up because it helps
add some motivation and backstory to the characters. 50.72.233.247 (talk) 03:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Backstory?