Talk:Ernst T. Krebs

message: Is this correct English? --DrJos (talk) 12:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  who happened upon amygdalin? 

message: Shinryuu, You changed a sentence to read, "Laetrile, a purported cure for cancer, given the name vitamin B17 by Krebs". That is not correct. Laetrile (l-mandelo nitrile-beta-glucuronic acid) is a man-made chemical compound; it does not occur in nature and it should not be referred as a vitamin. If Laetrile were a naturally occurring chemical compound then Krebs Sr. and Jr. could not have obtained a United States patent on Laetrile.
When Krebs used the name vitamin B17 he was referring to the naturally occurring nitrilosides, including amygdalin. For example, he stated, "The opponents of vitamin B-17 in cancer therapy have rather myopically, (I believe), argued that there is no proof that selective hydrolysis of the nitriloside occurs in the neoplastic cell", "The Nitrilosides (Vitamin B-17) – Their Nature, Occurence and Metabolic Significance (Antineoplastic Vitamin B-17)".
"Interchangeable use of the terms 'Laetrile,' 'amygdalin,' and 'vitamin B-17' has compounded the confusion", "Unproven Methods of Cancer Managment, Laetrile". Please note that in the preceding sentence Laetrile is spelled with a capital "L".  That is appropriate because Laetrile is a trade name for laevomandelonitrile, which is one of the several chemical compound names for l-mandelo nitrile-beta-glucuronic acid. Please do not compound the confusion by referring to Laetrile as vitamin B17 or by using Laetrile as a synonym for amygdalin. Laetrile (l-mandelo nitrile-beta-glucuronic acid) is not a synonym for amygdalin, [(6-O-β-D-glucopyranosyl-β-D-glucopyranosyl)oxy](phenyl)acetonitrile. Paul61485 (talk) 00:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please do not compound "the confusion" 

message: Currently, the article makes factual claims about two chemicals that are not well supported in  medically reliable sources. If this article becomes a ground of POV-pushing, it could be subject to deletion. Check for reliable sources, and update the article accordingly. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked one of the references. The article titled "The Rise and Fall of Laetrile" does not name A. F. Boutron-Charlard as a co-discoverer of amygdalin. I have therefore deleted that particular reference and added a "Citation needed" notice. He may be the co-discoverer but we need a reference for that "fact". Paul61485 (talk) 02:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical information needs to be [[WP:MEDRS | reliably sourced]]. I added POV tag to article 22 August 2010. 

message: WeijiBaikeBianji, You can use Google Images to search for images of "Ernst T. Krebs". Google links to and displays those images and that is not illegal. Similarly, it is not illegal for Wikipedia to link to those images. I am therefore going to restore the link to the "External media" image of Ernst T. Krebs, Jr. Paul61485 (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That is definitely not the full  Wikipedia Image use policy. Please check the policy before adding any image to the articlethis is one of the most common rule violations of editors who don't check the rules. Note that linking to another website to embed an image here is usually a discourtesy to the other website's owner. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that it is discourteous to EMBED an image from another website in a page on a different website, but I am not embedding that image in the Wikipedia page, I am only providing a link to the image, and the image opens in a web browser page that does not say anything about Wikipedia. This is obviously not illegal or even discourteous because Wikipedia has produced a template to accessing "External images". Paul61485 (talk) 04:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I provided a link to an "External image" that is on a web-page that does not offer anything for sale in English (I don't know what language it's written in). Paul61485 (talk) 06:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image use policy (section split for clarity of discussion) 

message: The French Wikipedia page on Pierre Jean Robiquet contains an entry in the "Principales publications" section that reads: 
:Nouvelles expériences sur les amandes amères et sur l'huile volatile qu'elles fournissent Robiquet, Boutron-Charlard, Annales de chimie et de physique, 44 (1830), 352–382.
In Wikipedia English that publication could become a reference that reads:
:Robiquet, PJ and Boutron-Charlard, AF (1830). New experiments on the bitter almonds and the volatile oil they provide. Annals of Chemistry and Physics 44, pp. 352–382.
Does someone who can read French have access to the article, to confirm that Robiquet and Boutron-Charlard are co-discoverers of amygdalin? And it would be good to have a URL for the article if it is available online. Paul61485 (talk) 08:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interpreter needed 

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message: A genuine question, and I ask because I can't seem to find any reference to the possibility on-line. But it can't have escaped German speakers attention that Krebs is the German word for cancer, and and ernst is the German word for serious. Given his field of work, that lends the tempting suspicion that either the name was chosen specifically for this pursuit (so it's a name he adopted) or a case of nominative determinism.
https://translate.google.com/?client=tw-ob#de/en/Ernst%20Krebs
Bwechner (talk) 02:07, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfectly normal name. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this man actually carrying a comical name (parody)? 

message: It has a similar name, so much so that I was surprised that Mr Krebs was not the promoter of Krebiozen.
118.208.187.115 (talk) 11:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No. His name is the German word for cancer or crab, and that word may also be the origin of the word "Krebiozen", but the similarity is pretty slim. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:27, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should the disambiguation [[Wikipedia:Hatnote|hatnote]] mention [[Krebiozen]]?