Talk:National Youth Music Theatre

message: Capitalization, double mentioning, perhaps dates of performances would help as well. That whole recently added section needs a tweak. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 19:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I seen it was already underway, if the performances mentioned twice happened on different days/years it should be mentioned. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 19:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply: Please could you clarify? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 01:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Reply: The article is intended to be a history of the NYMT. I believe that there is substantial content. It is not intended to be a promotioal page for auditions or productions. The directors are listed for most listed productions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 01:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Reply: I dont believe the article states that NYMT is the leading organisation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 01:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: The promotional tone, unsourced passages, and likely copyright violations are a long term concern. Much of this appears to stem from a WP:SPA, Jezza264 , though anonymous IPs have lent a hand as well. No attempt by Jezza to explain edits, nor clarify possible relationship to the subject. Cleanup overdue. 99.11.4.60 (talk) 00:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The majority of the text has been written by me, Jezza264. I am the producer of the National Youth Music Theatre and am therefore the author of text both here and on the NYMT website (http://www.nymt.org.uk). NYMT owns the copyright to all images used. The purpose of my edits has been to update factual information - matters of history and of future activity. The history is drawn from NYMT archives. There are no copyright violations. 01:41, 5 July 2012 []  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 00:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Inadequately sourced content, lack of neutrality, copyright problems and ownership are common problems in such situations, as they are here. I've added a COI template to the article, and will seek further help from objective editors. 99.11.4.60 (talk) 01:22, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Please coud you identify for me the specific content that you consider to be inadequately sourced? I have re-edited the page to ensure that it is purely factual with no subjective language. The page is intended to provide an accurate history of the organisation and nothing more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 01:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Much of it. I've stated the difficulties here and at your talk page. The thing to do is walk away from an article in which conflict of interest is so clearly an issue. The content is partly copied from the organization's website, and is in large measure not neutral in tone--this is evident to an objective reader, though perhaps not to someone affiliated with the organization. 99.11.4.60 (talk) 01:37, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Clarification re: recent reversion, not for the first time: . The event may be notable, but its significance must be supported by objective references, it doesn't belong at the top of the article, and may be a copyright violation. Similar issues exist throughout the article. 99.11.4.60 (talk) 01:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: I am anxious to address the difficulties to which you refer but your response, "much of it", is neither accurate nor helpful in identifying the areas of concern. I have updated at intervals the factual content of what is purely the written history of an organisation. In response to your earlier suggestions, I have removed a number of phrases that I would agree were subjective. If heading the article with "Recent Events" is problematic, I am happy to remove this and place those events within their chronolgical order in the main body of text. Please do quote any other examples of promotional text or sections of concern and I shall remove or re-write them. With thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jezza264Jezza264 (talk) 01:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Any content that is not supported by objective reliable sources, per WP:RELIABLE, doesn't belong. Just because content is factual doesn't mean it's suitable for an encyclopedia--hence, since Wikipedia is not a noticeboard for updating an organization's productions, much of this doesn't belong. Again, such protracted discussions--as this is becoming, and from which I'll soon depart-- don't occur unless there's been an inherent conflict of interest. 99.11.4.60 (talk) 02:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup, redux 

message: I have completely re-written the article at Talk:National Youth Music Theatre/Temp. In a couple of days, an adminstrator will move this into the main article space, delete the versions containing copyvio or derivatives of it, and merge the two histories. Voceditenore (talk) 18:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Now done. Voceditenore (talk) 13:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-write

message: Voceditenore, in order to bring the chapter up to the present, please would you add that the American composer, lyricist and playwright Jason Robert Brown collaborated with the NYMT to produce the West End première of his musical 13, which Brown also directed at The Apollo, Shaftesbury Avenue in August 2012? The company also produced his first musical theatre piece, Songs for a New World at the Bridewell Theatre, directed by Sarah Redmond, who had appeared in the UK première of the work in the same theatre. For references, I'd suggest Mark Shenton's review of 13  and, for Songs for a New World, Ken Plummer's review here: . The poster image for 13 may be found here: . With thanks Jezza264 (talk) 13:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, although I pruned the detail a bit. When we have articles on the subject, it is not necessary to repeat the same material again in this article. Note also, I have restored the Talk page posts here. While you can delete or archive posts on your personal talk page, you should never delete posts from article talk pages (yours or anyone elses's). The only exceptions are violations of our policies on biograpies of living people or copyright, vandalism or serious personal attacks. WP:TALK explains this policy and the reasons for it. Voceditenore (talk) 06:59, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Apologies for deletions. Please could you correct NYT to NYMT in your most recent edit? The two are frequently confused! Jezza264 (talk) 13:29, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested update to the section Relaunch 2005 to the Present 

message: Dear Voceditenore, I note that Richard Stilgoe has been added to the alumni list. He wrote Bodywork for the NYMT, as mentioned in the reference given, and he also served as a trustee, but he is not an alumnus. Please would you remove? It has also been brought to my attention that the following alumni are conspiciously missing from the list: Zoe Birkett, Robin Blaze, Stephen Graham (actor), Sally Hawkins, Toby Jones and Simon Thomas (television presenter). With many thanks. Jezza264 (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, although I noticed that a previous addition, Andrew Wright, points to a disambiguation page. If none of the articles there refer to the person who was a past member of NYMT, then I will remove it. Also, please do not change signatures of previous posts as you appear to have done here. Talk pages need to be accurate records of who said what and when. Voceditenore (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. Yes, Andrew Wright is the choreographer. There is no Wiki page for him, as yet, so a deletion or removal of the link would seem to be in order. Apologies for any deletion. I updated my own signature when I corrected my message to you.86.1.84.22 (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NATIONAL YOUTH MUSIC THEATRE corrections & additions 

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