Talk:Liverpool F.C. Reserves and Academy

message: I think that the recent addition of the infobox is a good idea, as is the move to the new article name. However, I think the text could be made a little clearer, and I will now attempt an edit of it.
Also, with regards to the move, the page you get when you wish to move a page CLEARLY STATES that you should check for and correct double redirects. I won't shift it back again, but please, if you want to move a page, make sure you have the time and the inclination to do the associated legwork too.Robotforaday 20:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why remove the text "The team largely consists largely of young players who are yet to break through into the regular lineup of the Liverpool F.C. first team."? 
While it might seem obvious to some, I think it's a useful explanation of the position of the reserves vis a vis the first team. Just saying all first team and academy players are eligable doesn't explain this. Robotforaday 21:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

text: You could be right, although I personally remain unconvinced. I have posted on wikiproject football to ask for another opinion on this. Robotforaday 21:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am disappointed that you are unable to discuss collaboration on this point. Your recent reversion says "removed one bad sentence"- which is fair enough if you think the sentence is bad, but it is an inaccurate summary of what you have done, as you have changed the order of the text and, in my opinion, made it a lot less clear and more clunkily written. Now, fine, you can edit whatever you see fit and change whatever you see fit. But I think it's a shame that you are incapable of discussing this. Robotforaday 21:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

text: What you now have is a list of short statement like sentences about the reserves with very little flow between them. It reads like bullet points, which is ok if that's what you're going for. As for the term "more and more", you could be right, and I hesitated using it myself. However, I used the term to suggest an incremental development (which has been the case), rather than just stating that it is the case now. Robotforaday 21:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure if you're right in treating it in exactly the way you would treat a sports club. It is a section of Liverpool F.C., and as such, I think it should start with an explanation of its place in Liverpool F.C. as a whole. Now, you say that's obvious to anybody who knows anything about sport, and you could be right, but frankly, when I'm writing I tend to assume that the more you assume people know about a topic, the more specialist and less encyclopedic the article becomes. Robotforaday 21:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

text: aLii 00:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, following that perspective I've tried another edit, which might have more consensus to it (although looking at it now, perhaps it could better follow Alii's sensible obserations a bit more closely)- anyway, see how it fares. Robotforaday 01:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: While I think it's appropriate to use the infobox, I was wondering if it would not make some sense to abridge it. For example, does it really make sense to have the establishment date, the name of the chairman, or even the club nickname for the reserve team? In some ways at the moment it looks like a team masquerading as a team in its own right- and stealing LFC's identity to boot! Of course, having the crest, the name of the reserve team manager, the league in which the team plays, the kit colours, does make sense. Robotforaday 01:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any other English reserve team articles? I only ask out of interest, and for comparison. I've only ever seen Spanish reserve team articles, which are somewhat different given the reserve teams' participation in the same league structure/ cup competitions. Robotforaday 04:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of infobox for reserve teams

message: The academy page is poor its just copied off one page on official website. As academy feeds into reserves and both pages are small (academy could be far smaller) merging seems sensible. 138.253.239.151 13:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - support merging of articles and deletion of academy page Steve-Ho 20:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At very least merge the two. Keeping reserves SenorKristobbal 21:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Personally, I don't agree with the merge of the Academy and Reserve pages, but wasn't really active at the time to oppose it. However, now that all the information has been copied over, I really think it would be a good idea for people to suggest how to better organise it. Right now, it is quite obvious that it's two sets of information thrown together. Robotforaday 20:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm in the (slow) process of doing it. What needs to be done, as far as I can see:
* The opening para needs to be changed to give an overview of Liverpool's youth system, and describe the status of the reserve and youth teams.
* The 'Noted Graduates' section needs to be extended to pre-academy players and the 'Selected Former Players' section to be moved as a sub-section (I'm working on this)
* The Academy section should be changed to The Academy Complex, and should be more focused on the commplex and what goes on there.
* The selected former mananagers section needs to be completed and renamed.
ArtVandelay13 21:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Organisation since the merge

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Liverpool FC logo.png

message: He plays for Greece U19 CURRENTLY and is no longer in the Australia U23 or U17 squad, I think it's more proper to put the national team he currently represent.  Mousega (talk) 10:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dean Bouzanis 

message: Several of the youth players don't have succesfull links to the players Liverpool FC site profiles. Does anybody know why this is or how it can be fixed. Fry2000  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fry2000 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Pepper fixed, removed capital letter from link. Added the o to oconnor so also fixed. As for Eccelstone, his name was spelt incorrectly in the box for a start, however he is no long listed as an academy player on the liverpool site, a quick search actually found him in the first team profiles. Ecclestone. Hope this helps. --Uksam88 (talk) 15:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile Gaps 

message: Chris Oldfield is Republic of Ireland International. RicoRichmond (talk) 16:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Oldfield