Wikipedia talk:Wikiproject:Alternative Medicine/Infoboxes/Archive 1

message: The rules are very simple here.  
# If you want to edit this WikiProject, then we are asking for the simple courtesy of registering yourself as a Public Participant in this WikiProject in the main project page. Most WikiProjects follow this same practice. 
# All comments made on our talk pages must be friendly.
#* Hostile comments and / or personal attacks are subject to being refactored out by any of our public participants.
# This talk page should be reserved for discussions about the infoboxes used by this wikiproject.
--  John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 15:04, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: The rules are very simple here.

message: A number of people have complained about our color choice.  
With all due respect, you should check out Wikipedia:Infobox.  Every WikiProject is supposed to pick an unique color.  This is what we did.  Our ugly infobox has been posted to Wikipedia:Infobox for quite some time now along with all the other ugly infoboxes.  Our color choice of #ffcc99 happens to be a safe color which means that it is supposed to work on all kinds of monitors and computer hardware setups.  We are the only project officially using this color choice. It has the virtue of being light in color so that the text is readable.
The hip-hop music infobox uses basically the same ugly color of orange.  If it is good enough for the hip hop crowd, how bad can this color choice be?
:On my monitor, the hip hop color is noticeably different from the alterative medicine color.  I'm sure hip hop fans will be relieved.  :)  heidimo  18:45, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah!  Our shade of orange is a whole lot better. -- John Gohde 19:11, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

text: whatever. Its still too big, and should be at the bottom of iridology if nothing else. That article is way too crowded for this to be at the top of it. Sam [Spade] 02:16, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: When compared to the infoboxes of the other projects and those huge article series blue boxes of some other projects it is actually quite small. -- John Gohde 03:53, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we use such an ugly color for our infobox? 

message: I am interested in finding the deletion history for these Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine templates.  Notes  on their respective talk pages indicate TfD noitces were posted Aug - Sept 2004, yet the Deletion Log for Sept has no record of anybody voting on these templates.  What happened?
: -- TfD notice was posted in Sept 2004.
: -- TfD notice was posted in Aug 2004.
:Alternative Medicine (Terms, Philosophy, Branches, People, History, Index)
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:-- John Gohde 08:07, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They were deleted via Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. If you scroll back in the history of that you'll find the discussions. Snowspinner 23:01, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)
Alternative Medicine
Terms and concepts
Philosophy of ...
Branches of ...
Famous People in ...
History of ...
Index of topics
The Project on Alternative Medicine was started long after projects were an accepted part of Wikipedia.  Our Infobox was modeled after the long accepted infobox for the Project on Buddhism.  This fact has been stated in a number of different places, such on our main project page.  And on the original edit summaries and talk pages of each of the articles used in our project's infobox.  This fact is undeniable.  Our infobox is actually better than the Buddha box because it is smaller and more compact.  So, any of the vile comments directed against our infobox goes double for the Buddha box. I will ask this question. When will you guys get around to deleting the Buddha box and all the other project infoboxes? John Gohde 04:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Project on Alternative Medicine Template Deletion History

message: Jumping back to the previous 5,000 edits I came up with this.
===September 13===
*Template:CamMenu - More MNH alternative medicine spamming and an attempt to put in a lever to edit lots of articles at once without it showing in recent changes. Redundant with the category, to say the least - David Gerard 11:06, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion History for CamMenu 

message: *Template:CamMenu - More MNH alternative medicine spamming and an attempt to put in a lever to edit lots of articles at once without it showing in recent changes. Redundant with the category, to say the least - David Gerard 11:06, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: September 13

message: Infoboxes share absolutely nothing in common with categories because Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series_boxes does not cover infoboxes.
Infoboxes, as well as our latest revision, are a consistently-formatted table which are present in articles with a common subject that provide classification information. Our particular infoxbox references a well-annotated list to related articles, if and only if a viewer decides to click on an infobox hyperlink. Viewers are only taken to other related articles when they click on a hyperlink contained within our well-annotated list. Please note that offical Wikipedian guidelines state that:
#"Lists on Wikipedia have three main purposes: 
#*Information - The list may be a valuable information source. ... Examples would include ... annotated lists. 
#*Navigation... lists of related topics (also called list of links to related articles). 
#*Development - Some lists are useful for Wikipedia development purposes. The lists of related topics give an indication of the state of the 'opedia, the articles that have been written, and the articles that have yet to be written."
#"A well-annotated list may duplicate a category, but not be redundant with it." 
I shall repeat that again: a well-annotated list is never redundant  with categories, and our infobox has a single purspose which is not navigation. 
Therefore, our infoxboxes are part of an offical Wikiproject, are informative rather than navigational in nature, are not redundant with categories per Wikipedian guidelines, and are thus not obsolete. -- John Gohde 06:21, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the Project on Alternative Medicine's InfoBoxes are NOT Obsolete