Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/List of literary works with eponymous heroines

message: Was checking out this list because I've been working on the male version.  Some of the titles on this list don't seem to meet the requirement of ONLY the heroine's name.  Here are some examples, most of which I haven't read, so I'm not 100% certain these aren't the heroine's name: "The Patchwork Girl of Oz", "Aunt Jane's Nieces" (Someone is named "Aunt Jane's Nieces"?!?), "Miss Ludington's Sister", "My Name is Denise Forrester", "Mildred Carver, U.S.A.", "The Continuous Katherine Mortenhoe".  I didn't make it very far down into the list and found these.  I agree that "only" the character's name is a bit limiting - over on the heroes list, I've made a few changes to the definition to include titles, a parenthetical in addition to and related directly to the name, aliases, nicknames, and noms de guerre. Do we need to make more changes? For instance, I had been purposely leaving out "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" and "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" because they include other information than the protagonist's name. Applejuicefool 14:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interest dilemma. I personally would certainly exclude your examples ("The Patchwork Girl of Oz", "Aunt Jane's Nieces", "Miss Ludington's Sister") as they don't use the name. I would also exclude ( "My Name is Denise Forrester", "Mildred Carver, U.S.A.", "The Continuous Katherine Mortenhoe") as they do but are not eponymous. But "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" and "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" would also be out for sure. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: I'm not convinced it's such a good idea to have separate "male" and "female" versions of this list (and we'll set aside the fact that a "hero" can be male or female, and that not that many protagonists listed here are actually heroic). I think they should be merged into something slightly more cogent such as List of literary works named for their protagonist. Before I do anything about this, what do others think? ProhibitOnions (T) 23:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no value in the merge. Hero is the masculine form of the term, Heroine is the feminine. Those that the use the term "Hero" for women are predominately of recent late twentieth century education who seem unaware of gender based terminology. The level of "heroicism" necessary to be considered the "hero/heroine" is another issue, here it appears to be inclusive in nature. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Explain why we need separate lists of female and male characters. We don't have, to pick another list article at random, "List of male atheists" and "List of female atheists", just List of atheists. ProhibitOnions (T) 20:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Explain why we need a joint one! The main and most obvious use for two is that two clearly distinguish gender with no need to go any further than the list. Also bear in mind that these lists are more by way of work lists for the project as they are part of project space and not generally part of the main project space. They are partly/largely hit lists for editors who would like to work through a subject area, interest set of novels, heroes, heroines. If you think such a list of eponymous protagonists which appears to be more your interest is needed, by all means go and set one up. Also it is worth noting that the project "saved" these lists to here after their life in main project space was threatened. If you think a revised list such as you propose might "have more legs" then go for it. Personally I'm not sure it will have too much more support than these. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title, merge