Talk:The Sacred War

message: The previous version said the song was written "predating the German invasion". There is no evidence for this - as the lyrics were published 24th of June 1941 (according to Russian wikipedia) and music was written shortly after that. The Eastern campaign started in 22th of June. Lebatsnok (talk) 07:23, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Time of writing

message: Just a thought, isn't проклятый better translated with 'damned' rather than 'damn'? 
82.182.168.164 00:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: :The words for the song were written in 1916 by Alexander Bode, a teacher from Rybinsk, and were plagiarized by Vasily Lebedev-Kumach (who only changed Teutonic into Fascist)
reason:
:в «Независимой газете» от 05.07.2000 г. появилось опровержение: «Сведения, изложенные в статье «Священная война» — эхо двух эпох» о поэте-песеннике В. И. Лебедеве-Кумаче, признаны не соответствующими действительности и порочащими честь, достоинство, деловую репутацию автора песни «Священная война» В. И. Лебедева-Кумача. В связи с чем редакция газеты доводит до сведения читателей, что автором текста песни «Священная война» является В. И. Лебедев-Кумач».
mikka (t) 21:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen and read stories about the song being "pre-written" before the 1941 German invasion of the Soviet Union. The song is great, but I do not know much about the pre-1941 history about it. Zach (Smack Back) 21:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Yes we sould add information on rebuttal, but my English is too weak for this task.--Nixer 21:24, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If the Russian could be translated, I can try to write the English rebuttle. Zach (Smack Back) 21:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is written in official style. I can translate the meaning, but am not so strong to keep the style.--Nixer 21:34, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the style of the text. Zach (Smack Back) 21:35, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This paragraph is not the rebuttle, but of mine. The rebuttal above is by "Nezavisimaya gazeta" newspaper.--Nixer 21:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  The statement as if the song were written before June 22 has been proposed by Viktor Suvorov in his book 'M-Day'. He claimed, some war veterans had recalled the song already heard on June 22 1941, far from Moscow. I don't possess the book myself but I'd like too look it up (to clarify what he exactly stated). Constanz - Talk 16:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed piece

message: Alternative English Lyrics - WTF ??? 40% of the translation is right, the other 60% are made up !!! There is something logical in them, but are not connected with "Vstavai strana ogromnaya" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BraikoT (talk • contribs) 13:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholeheartedly agree with the above. Who on earth wrote the "poetic adaptation", which itself removes all of the poetic elements of the original? How can one translate "Let noble wrath / Boil over like a wave!" into "And noble anger leads us / To victory against the fascist scum!"? Lots of liberties taken here. I strongly recommend removing the poetic adaptation altogether. It adds nothing and the literal translation is perfectly effective, if not much more beautifully expressed. 84.203.40.10 (talk) 13:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative English Lyrics 

message: The article has the false name "Svyaschennaya Voyna". The correct form is "Svyashchennaya Voyna" (two h chars)! Sorry for my bad English. --84.186.120.4 (talk) 09:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the title is correct as per current transliteration standard. "Щ" -> "sch". -- Wesha (talk) 05:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: " as per current transliteration standard" is nonsensical. See Romanization of Russian. More to the point, not a single one out of the ten schemes listed transliterates щ as sch. --dab (𒁳) 13:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  False title of article 

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message: Apparently, the Ukrainians aren't the only ones making adaptation of The Sacred War for the War in Donbass. I found a version of the song called "Arise, Donbass Unbreakable!" that is pro-Novorossiya and anti-Ukrainian, and even mentions the Maidan, Donbass, and Crimea by name in the third verse. Should we mention it?
Here are a pair of video links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSnazhLMO7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNMawJrwL0g 177.121.124.137 (talk) 19:17, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Arise, Donbass Unbreakable!"