Talk:List of bus routes in Melbourne

message: I wish to thank everyone who worked on this article. It's great and very interesting. I would like to see more like this. Optim 15:30, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Great article

message: This question is related to disambiguation of the term "Upfield" on this page.
What is the syntax used for an entry like this below?
 531 - Coburg North - Upfield - Broadmeadows
Obviously the first item is the route number, the last is the operator, but what about the other two?
 Route # - ???? - ???? - Operator
Thanks for clarifying this.  I would suppose at this point that Upfield should be revised to Upfield, but I await your input before making that change.
Regards, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, from what I can tell it's a list of suburbs, sometimes train stations. I'll get my Melway and check it out. Josh Parris#: 11:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: So silly of me.  Anyways, the map says the 540 and 531 terminate at the train station. Josh Parris#: 11:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  entry syntax 

message: Wouldn't this whole section be a lot more suitable at Buses in Melbourne instead? It's also incredibly negative - while there's a long, long way to go, it's still the only form of PT in some areas. invincible 08:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Melbourne Buses 

message: It looks like a revamp of the metlinkmelbourne.com.au website has broken all links
 http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/timetables/timetable_options.php?type=bus&id=MTB237
is now:
 http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/line/view/2071
There doesn't appear to be any correlation between the route number and the URL.  Alternatively, all links can be fixed quickly by using the search page:
 http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/metlink/quicksearch?searchText=237
My recommendation is that all links are fixed by using the search page (one edit, search and replace), and then everyone can help by replacing the link to the search with the direct link.  Jayvdb 08:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  broken hyperlinks 

message: I have produced a template that's fairly easy to use, that will generate the appropriate link automatically. The template is Template:MetlinkBus, and the instructions for its use are on that page. The good thing about doing it this way is that if Metlink change their links again, it's basically just a search-and-replace to fix it all.
I'll start correcting the links using this template now; if there are any problems feel free to let me know. --Evan C (Talk) 10:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solution: ready-to-go 

message: Shouldn't there be seprate articles for each route like the trams and trains?--Adammw 23:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For each individual route? I don't see why, perhaps aside from the SmartBus routes. There are a lot more bus routes than there are train lines and tram routes. Most would be little more than a route description, anyway. --Evan C (Talk) 05:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't there be seprate articles 

message: I plan to do a bit of work on this page, giving every route a link where possible, and having one constant format for the whole article. Please excuse anything that looks half done, I WILL get around to fixing it, whenever I can... 
Kiwichris1709 (talk) 13:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I'm gonna fix it up...

message: Is it worth tiding up this page with a new metlink template to make it easier to keep to date linked timetables, or keep them in tables as is to date, where routes can be modified, with new timetables not getting relinked from the MetlinkBus templates. I originally set it up as a table thinking it would make it clearer, but now realizing changes to timetable links become harder to monitor, and when new routes appear/disappear, it becomes a pain to work out what needs to be adjusted. --Huyie (talk) 14:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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message: Hello Wikipedians
I've decided to finally update the entire page, because it had not been updated since 2007 or earlier.
Here's my mini log:
*All 'Metlink' terminology removed and replaced with PTV
*Updates to over 30+ services (routes)
*Verifying accuracy of notes, and consistency among the entire page
*Major update to (previously known as) Nightrider with new Night Network, called Night Bus, including associated pages, and service information
*Frequency column added, to eventually gather information on all services
*Overhaul of the back-end formatting and data with service information
*Updating missing information / blanks
*Updating broken links
*Adding new updated images of bus company fleet photos, eventually gaining all companies
The major update of the page started from December 2015, and is likely to end around April-May of 2016.
For those wondering, i am a user of Melbourne buses, and a Victorian resident.
Thanks BrillOBuffalo (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Significant Updates made 

message: Some of these routes no longer exist, especially since the introduction of the Regional Rail Link. As a result some of the automatic link through metlink no longer works. http://ptv.vic.gov.au/june21timetablechanges/bus-network/wyndham/
Should we put it into a list of former routes or just delete them? I like to archive them into a list for historical purposes. 110.22.236.11 (talk) 01:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As an encyclopaedia past routes are no more or less relevant than existing ones. This is not a guide.Charles (talk) 11:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: I propose we get rid of this section. This is meaningless as not many people are interested in which routes are operated by individual operators and either way that information is already available alongside every route. Ajf773 (talk) 04:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of routes by bus company 

message: There has been a hatnote on this article for some time about the possible incorrect use of external links. There are hundreds such external links in this article which are mainly created by template Template:PTVBus or its predecessor Template:MetlinkBus. These templates have now been removed from all other articles where external links have been replaced by references. This leaves this article as the only one using these templates. However it is felt that replacing all external links by references in this article would create an excessive number of references - many hundreds. What should we do about this?  see 
This is also the only article listed with an incorrect parameter in  but because the links are not listed in the article I have not been able to find which route contains the error. Any assistance here would be appreciated.Fleet Lists (talk) 02:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I say just go ahead and change them - I think WP:BOLD applies here. I made a very rough count, and it would be about 450 references. There are plenty of precedents for that number of references in an article (for example see the Barack Obama article, which has 510 references). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

text: We should avoid posting links of bus schedules or timetables as Wikipedia isn't a travel guide. One external link covering every single route in Melbourne should be all that is needed. Ajf773 (talk) 20:52, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think having one reference for each route would be useful for the purpose of verification, though - it proves that the route actually exists, without readers having to search PTV's website for it themselves. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:31, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Specific references for each route (or group of routes, i.e. 802/804/862 trio) makes sense in the context of Wiki, since the references act as hyperlinks, users have access to search functions like Ctrl+F, and as things change it will be easier to convert individual references to waybackmachine links. If there was a way to subdivide the reference section that would be worth considering (i.e. one list for primary, a second list for details/minor), but as far as I know it isn't an option with the current code. Anothersignalman (talk) 13:07, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

text: It would. But the whole purpose of Wikipedia isn't a bus timetable or guide. It's an encyclopedia. Ajf773 (talk) 18:50, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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