Talk:Atlanta Thrashers

message: There is a List of Atlanta Thrashers players. When you add players to the Thrashers main article, could you also add the same players to the list article as well. Thanks! Masterhatch 8 August 2005
:Are there any Thrasher fans who want to work on the List of Atlanta Thrashers players? --Sparkhurst 03:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Atlanta Thrashers players 

message: Moved to "current squad" in article ccwaters 21:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's what I thought. First time I've noticed it ccwaters 21:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Ok... are you just speculating that he may decide this sometime down the road or as he actuall asked to be referred to by Jean-Pierre. If he has, than the league, the team, the nhlpa and media will abide as demonstrated with Kozlov and Nabakov (twice). Its not up to us to decide. ccwaters 01:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  2005-06 Roster Scratch 

message: Note: Mellanby, Havelid, and Modry were added to the team last off-season, 2004, not 2005.
: That's nice, but what's the point of linking to a season that didn't happen? Any, I reverted Bondra back for the umpteenth time. Do you see a pattern here? I've pointed you to the correct forum to discuss it multiple times. Go there to express your views (and yes I think they are very valid). We've discussed these issues before and came to a decision, but that doesn't mean we won't change our mind. Bondra is a wierd one. Kolzig is a wierd one (born in S. Africa to German parents and raised in Canada). Brett Hull is a wierd one (US's hockey golden boy was born in Canada). ccwaters 19:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Roster 

message: Is Dafoe still with the Thrashers? if not ,where can he be? Mightberight/wrong 20:24, 27 October 2005
: Dafoe's an unsigned unrestricted free agent.  Ravenswing 07:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Where's Byron Dafoe?

message: (begin ranting) Yes, he was born in the Ukraine. But birthplace doesn't always determine nationality or allegiance. He's on the Slovak Olympic team. Hence Slovakian flag. Not Ukraine. Looks like someone changed it to Slovakia while I was preparing this message. Nice to see someone realizes this. (end ranting) --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK!. 02:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Speaking of Bondra, he needs to hurry up and resign with the finals destined ThrashersO-TOWN'S AT 22:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He's not planning on it. Minfo 05:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bondra's flag. *sigh* 

message: I mean really. Dany Heatley is the main captain for Atlanta. Good thing theres an edit button. thank god.
--Bennyenhuis 18:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That'd be perfect... if only Heatley was still with the team. ;) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 19:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heatley was never a captain of the Thrashers. Just an alterate captain. GoodDay 01:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  man, how many of these captains are messed up? 

message: I've come across many people who are unaware that the team is named after the Georgia state bird, the Thrasher, and are unaware the type of bird in the logo, so to help try to end this confusion, should an image of a thrasher be placed on the page? The Devils' page has an image of a Jersey Devil, as their team's name inspiration. --David7581 02:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team name inspiration 

message: Since we know every NHL team is required to change their jersey design this year, should we change the "present" in the years of the jerseys to 2007? --David7581 02:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jersey images 

message: I have not edited this but wouldn't statements like this:
"This is again due to a complete lack of talent with the possible exception of Ilya Kovalchuk, the young Russian who alone, has managed to keep the team alive."
be against the rules? This is a personal opinion stated as fact. It is also simply not true as the statement in question is in regards to a team that made the playoffs which WOULD mean the team does have talent and there is zero justification to state that one player in Ilya Kovalchuk has managed to "keep the team alive".
These comments are not needed in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.4.38 (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Similarly, this is hardly NPOV: "(This was not helped by the fact that Patrick Stefan turned out to be one of the biggest failures in NHL History)".  Thoughts?  (GLG 01/08/08)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.133.131.34 (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I suspect several of the team articles require a serious looking over.  I'll remove those blatantly POV editorials.  If you see anything more, feel free to remove, or alter them to a more NPOV tone. Resolute 21:12, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this included? 

message: Whoever added our new acquisitions to the Atlanta roster and edited the profiles... You Rock!!
I'll add all the stats and such in later tonight so they have all of the info down we're trying to assemble for Thrashers players. Probably from NHL.com.
Tsani Jones (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Penguins Edits

message: The player's number is shown in the front of the jersey as well. Since the jerseys shown on the page seem to have the number "00", should the alternate jersey have 00 in the front, something like this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jojorocko (talk • contribs) 21:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thrashers alternate jersey image 

message: Hi, I don't know how to properly edit Wikipedia articles and don't want to mess things up. The term and distinction "West Germany" are not made anymore since 1990. Please change to "Munich, Germany." 
71.59.146.26 (talk) 17:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The names of the birth countries remain as they were when they were born. The player was not born in Munich, Germany. He was born in Munich, West Germany. There is a difference. -DJSasso (talk) 17:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players 

message: The information of the discussed moves of the franchise, along with a potential purchase by an local Atlantan, is cited from reliable sources. if all of this information has been proven false, then the correct response is to present that proof from reliable sources, not to remove the entire section. If this removal of cited information continues without further discussion and consensus here, then I will request that the page be fully protected until a consesnus is reached on the issue. Thanks for you cooperation. - BilCat (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That being said, the fact that it was mentioned, correct or not correct is in itself important to the franchise. It is something that is constantly talked about in connection with the franchise. If sources can be provided that it is incorrect then that should also be included. But it would be wrong to remove it outright. -DJSasso (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. - BilCat (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you even looked at these so called references ? "Thrashers to Winnipeg rumour wishful thinking" and "Group wants to move Atlanta Thrashers to Hamilton". This in no way is a "possible relocation". Just because a group wants to move the Thrashers to some dirt hole means nothing. I want to move Cowboys Stadium to my backyard, or move the Statue of Liberty. Doesn't mean a thing. Also The first reference explains how ridiculous the relocation idea is and says “There is no truth whatsoever to these rumours”. If we're are going to include every rumor some sports caster with the IQ of a silk worm creates than the section should be named "Rumors, Gossip, & Crackpot Theories", not "Possible relocation". UrbanNerd (talk) 20:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with the section being renamed. I do have a problem withthe wholesale removal of the section, especially the paragraph on Stephen Rawlin's interest. The latter is from the NHL's own website, and appears to be about a serious interst in purchasing the Thrashers. Why you removed it is beyond me, as it is more that just a "rumor". As to the other paragraph regarding the moves, they aren't just some WP editor mouthing he want to move the Cowboys to his backyard! These appear to have been serious interests by groups who approached the NHL about acquiring and moving the franchise. The Winnepeg "rumor" wa that the move was a "done deal", not that there was no interest at all. - BilCat (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well any smug, arrogant, WP cat can say whatever they want. Why you are so eager to include this gossip is beyond me. It's extremely poor editing to include this kind of trash. The section needs to be renamed at the least. UrbanNerd (talk) 21:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please be civl. It's not mere "gossip", and certainly the paragraph on Rawlin's interst is not a rumor of any kind. How about "Ownership issues" as a title? - BilCat (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

text: The economic state of the franchise is most certainly notable.  Certainly the section name is not good - "Economic state" or something might work - and the section should include more information, including the recent legal issues.  But yes, it should also make note of potential buyers and concerns about the team's future.  Removing the section outright is not the proper solution.  Fixing it is.  Though, care should be taken to avoid placing undue weight.  This article should be kept at a high level, and more details put into the appropriate season article, imo. Resolute 22:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumors and cited information

message: The owners of the Atlanta Thrashers is & still Atlanta Spirit LLC. NOT some Canadian where they live in the middle of nowhere. I'll bet 99% of the world never heard of Winnipeg.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 18:42, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone is tampering with the Owners name 

message: "The Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada." ...How? Were they in Atlanta or were they in Winnipeg? It should either say:
"The Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Atlanta, Georgia."
or
"The Winnipeg Thrashers (formerly Atlanta Thrashers) are a professional ice hockey team based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada."
Macarion (talk) 02:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, per previous consensus regarding the NHL team articles, a separate page should be created for any new relocated team, just like there are separate pages for Quebec Nordiques and Colorado Avalanche, and Hartford Whalers and Carolina Hurricanes. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This does not make sense. 

message: The Thrashers will most likely move to Winnipeg.They are finalizing the deal now.
71.225.63.1 (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "..will most likely..", isn't good enough. Wait until the NHL confirms this & the Board of Governors consent to it & re-location. Be patient. GoodDay (talk) 00:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There should not be any such changes to this article regarding relocation until there are official announcements by the league and all parties concerned. Per GoodDay, "will most likely" is not sufficient enough. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 71.225.63.1, 21 May 2011 

message: Under Statistics & Records, Most points in a season, defenseman: Tobias Enstrom, 50 (2009–10) is false, Dustin Byfuglien has broken that record with 53 (2010-11).
Shubvirk (talk) 01:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, but only because the entire section is unreferenced to begin with.  I do not know for certain if Byufuglien scored all 53 points as a defenceman, or if that even matters for the record.  It will have to be checked and verified when next year's media guide comes out. Resolute 17:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

text: That isn't true, he played a number of games at forward in Atlanta this year. -DJSasso (talk) 21:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from *, 24 May 2011 

message: True North Sports and Entertainment has just confirmed their purchase of the Atlanta Thrashers. I noticed this page was locked, so hopefully you guys will get on editing ASAP. Details such as:
"Atlanta Thrashers
1999-present (Sale pending approval means 2011 could be last)"
need to be changed to
"Atlanta Thrashers
1999-2011" --PhantomCall2 (talk) 19:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't change it to that just yet. The NHL board of Governors still have to approve the sale and relocation. Will change article when that happens. Karl 334 ☞TALK to ME ☜ 19:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Exciting times. --PhantomCall2 (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Carl's objections still stand. The sale and relocation are pending until approved by the NHL. Until the relocation is approved, "The Atlanta Thrashers are an NHL team." - BilCat (talk) 03:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Type in "Atlanta Thrashers" on Google, press "News" and see what comes up. Let's kick the ballistics here, the team formerly known as the Atlanta Thrashers ceased to exist on May 31, 2011.  Saying it is not is like waiting for the Electoral College to go through their formality of a vote before declaring a U.S. presidential candidate "president-elect".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 06:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out, if you want to use your analogy, the terms of US presidents on here.  THey start on inauguration day, not election day.  The team has not moved yet.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  They are gone from Atlanta. It is done. To use the past tense now is accurate. Dolovis (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The second paragraph is MORE THAN sufficient to address the issue for now. You sound like one of the people who says that because a news article appears saying "Rumors: Flyers to play Rangers in Winter Classic," Wikipedia should list those teams as the participants. It doesn't work that way. The current wording is accurate: There is a deal that, if and when the NHL ratifies it on June 21, will result in the Thrashers moving to Winnipeg. Until then, legally and under the NHL's bylaws, the Atlanta Thrashers remain an NHL franchise. So using the past tense is simply inaccurate. 1995hoo (talk) 13:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if you are from Atlanta or just clinging to the past.  It might be too early to revive the Winnipeg Jets franchise page and call them a current team (in my analogy would be equivalent to president elect taking oath of office) but they called a press conference wherein the Commissioner and team owners were present and said this is happening (equivalent in my analogy to the other candidate conceding the race in a political race, thus making that person president-elect).  Pretending like it is not is both dishonest and inaccurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 22:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not from Atlanta, and that is irrelevant anyway.  Note how the person is the President elect, not the president.  WHen the move is approved by the BOG we can note it then.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm also not from Atlanta; furthermore, I'm thrilled that Winnipeg is in line to get a team again. That aside, however, there is a formal process that the league will be following and we have to reflect that reality. --Ckatzchatspy 23:15, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also not from Atlanta nor am I a Thrashers fan (I am from Northern Virginia and have been a Capitals fan since I first went to a game in 1984). My interest is simply in having the correct information. All the reports in the world can say the team is being sold, but until the league actually approves it, the team has in fact not been sold. The Coyotes' situation ought to provide ample proof of how nothing is official until the full process required by the NHL's bylaws is correct (recall how the judge in Phoenix rejected the Balsillie deal in part because he said the NHL's bylaws giving ownership the right to approve or disapprove a sale controlled). It would be "dishonest and inaccurate" for Wikipedia's article to say the deal is done when it's not. I will repeat what I said before: It is entirely accurate to say that an agreement in principle has been reached for the sale of the team that, if and when approved by the league, will result in the team moving to Winnipeg. Nobody disputes that. But to say that the Atlanta Thrashers are defunct is incorrect. Legally they're still the entity and it will remain that way until June 21 at the earliest. Dbrodbeck's point about the difference between the president and the president-elect is a good example: Until noon on January 20, the president-elect IS NOT the president. Until the NHL approves the move, the team is NOT sold and is NOT moved to Winnipeg. 1995hoo (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'll play along...what happens if the board votes "no"?  There are no buyers in Atlanta.  Therefore there will no longer be an Atlanta Thrashers either way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 21:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

text: As an aside, I've just noticed that the "Rinksters" site (the NHL's avatar-based site for kids) is phasing out all Atlanta-related material... --Ckatzchatspy 17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating This Article 

message: Don Waddell president of hockey operations announced he is leaving the team, and will not continue in his current position with the team in Winnipeg after the relocation is made official at the Board of Governors Meetings.
74.124.130.132 (talk) 01:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Needs a reliable source, and that's not soemthing unusual in an ownership change anyway, so I'm not certain it's needed here. - BilCat (talk) 02:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

text: It certainly needs a reliable source, but there's no doubt that Waddell is the seminal figure in the history of the Thrashers' franchise, and his departure would be a significant event.   Ravenswing  05:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: How's this--he has said he is NOT moving with the team.  Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Don-Waddell-talks-about-his-role-in-the-Atlanta-?urn=nhl-wp6156  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 06:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Right but the team hasn't officially left Atlanta yet until the vote on June the 21st so technically its still possible he will be with the team. When the team officially is moved it will get updated. -DJSasso (talk) 23:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 74.124.130.132, 1 June 2011 

message: Please make the page similar to the other teams who have relocated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is. -DJSasso (talk) 21:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team Officially Moved 

message: "With the Thrashers sale and relocation to Winnipeg, the NHL isn't expected to return to Atlanta for the foreseeable future due to the failure of both the Thrashers and the Atlanta Flames.[18][19]"
Bias and doubtful, Atlanta is a major metropolis and big sports market. The Tharchers were under bad ownership is what doomed the team. I can't see Atlanta being w/o an NHL team for more than 10 years at least cuz with the poor situation in PHX and other teams, and with a good arena like Phipps, I don't see why anyone wouldn't try a third time to make hockey work in Atlanta.
I'd like to see both "the NHL is not coming back in the future" and "the NHL is only gone for a short wide because..." arguments made at least.--184.77.10.72 (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all this is not a forum.  Secondly, there is a reference for the statement, but I am not sure that the articles say that exactly.  It is hardly a leap though, and to call it bias is a bit much I think. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Please read WP:NOTAFORUM  Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

text: On the original point, I am inclined to agree.  The references supporting the claim that the NHL isn't likely to return is the editorial opinion of writers.  They can't speak for the league, so I would agree that statement should be removed.  I personally don't believe the NHL is likely to return to Atlanta, but that is just my POV, and it is equally POV as an ESPN writer's. Resolute 04:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Alternatively, the statement could be rewritten to say something like "ESPN (feels, thinks, says, etc...) that, due to the Thrashers sale and relocation..." Of course, undue weight may be a consideration there. <shrug> Seems like simply removing such a speculative statement would be best, but I wanted to at least offer the alternative (oh, and despite having NOTFORUM in mind... there's no way that Lou Lamoriello will move the Albany Devils out of upstate New York (more accurately, that he won't have the Dev's AHL affiliate somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic/New England region). He's from Providence after all, nevermind the fact that he feels that having the farm team relatively nearby is important.— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 01:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  bias 

message: Any news if the Thrasher's banner are going to stay in the rafters at the Philips Arena?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 22:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thrashers Banners 

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message: Everyone has their opinion on what went wrong with the Thrashers.  Looks like someone decided to leave their own opinion in the last paragraph.  While insightful, it needs to be sourced properly and the potential biases need to be addressed or else I would say this would be grounds for deleting the paragraph.  Any thoughts?   Rkehler3 (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for leaving 

message: Wondering if a section can be added about the Thrashers today and their presence in hockey culture, specifically on Twitter and the popular Thrashers account. Would also suggest referencing the number of black players who played on the team at the same time. 5 players on a team has only happened in one other instance (tied for most ever), and I believe 2010 was the first time that a goal and both assists were all from black players. It seems significant/historic. Also well-documented online. I'm not the savviest when it comes to Wikipedia edits otherwise I'd do it myself. Jaymcarth (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to add a Legacy section 

message: Locally here in Atlanta, there is a proposal in Forsyth County (North of the city) to build an arena to attract a NHL team. Is is worth placing here yet or should it wait until it is past the proposal stage? Byoungjr (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: New Arena and potential ressurection