Talk:Japanese hip hop

message: An interesting article discussing the origins of Japanese hip hop, particularly the aspects most closely related to rap, to foreign hip hop, to specific rappers and clubs at which the movement originated. But most Japanese hip hop today has little direct connection to that. This article would benefit greatly from a discussion of the diversity and breadth of the genre, and a list (not too out of control) of some of the more major hip hop artists in Japan. LordAmeth (talk) 06:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: "Initially language was a barrier for hip-hop in Japan. Rappers initially only rapped in English because it was believed that the differences between English and Japanese would make it impossible to rap in Japanese. Unlike English, the Japanese language ends phrases in auxiliary verbs. Whereas English ends in verbs or nouns, which are extremely common, Japanese rappers were limited by the small number of grammatically correct possibilities for ending a phrase. Japanese also lacks the stresses on certain syllables that provide flow to English rapping."
Biggest load of bunk. No references nor sources cited. Anyone who's studied Japanese long enough will know that despite any grammatical rules, as in any other language, these rules are BROKEN. CONSTANTLY. Who wrote this absolute fiction? The last sentence is so laughably nonsensical and fictitious it's almost not worth my time pointing this out to the sadly uninformed miscreant who copied and pasted this. 
"Japanese was also a traditionally polite language" - more POV, Eurocentric pap. It's entirely Western and arrogant to label Japanese as traditionally being 'polite'. Anyone who's read enough will be able to realize that it goes beyond 'polite'. 
The section under Language needs to be either entirely scrapped or rewritten with sources. It's so poorly researched and presented it's laughable. What garbage.
:: Yes, it's laughable and terrible but please don't label anything racist/stereotypical as "Eurocentric" and "Western". Lots of people believe in thousands of stereotypes about other people, don't assign it to one group.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.212.88 (talk) 18:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree with what has been said. This article looks good if you don't read it because of the lengthy paragraphs; however, when you get into it, it's a mess. It more closely resembles a high school student's music essay, instead of a typical Wikipedia article. ★Dasani★ 03:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is this POV BS? 

message: Many of the sentences in this article are directly lifted from Ian Condry's book Hip Hop Japan.  These sentences are neither quoted nor cited.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.50.231.162 (talk) 04:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism. 

message: I am wondering what criteria are being used for selecting "notable" hip-hop artists. For one thing, Hime may have been written about in Ian Condry's book, but I have never met an artist nor a fan who find her "influential." Her lyrics are interesting, but she doesn't really seem to have caught on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.104.32 (talk) 03:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Choice of artists to highlight under "notable" 

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