Talk:Oatmeal ball

message: I've been in Stockholm the last 3 weeks. I seem chokladboll at probably 75 cafes, bakeries, etc... Not one of them was "smaller than a golf ball". Most of them are about the size of a hacky sack, maybe half way between golf ball and baseball   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggman (talk • contribs) 09:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: Whether or not 'Negerboll' is politically incorrect and/or offensive has no relevance to the food or its name. I won't remove it but I hope somebody does. - ZM  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.224.124.102 (talk) 05:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it merits mention, but it's currently discussed a bit more elaborately than it needs to. Cutting it down to about a quarter of it's current length would seem about right. - Eudoxie (talk) 01:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Controversy

message: Article was nominated for deletion on April 26, 2005 but kept. The debate is archived on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Chokladboll. Sjakkalle 11:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD debate

message: removed this irrelevant fact:
: In 2003, bakery owner Agneta Andersson from Sjöbo, was reported to the Swedish Ombudsman against Ethnic Discrimination for using the word negerbollar on a sign in her bakery shop. However, the case was dismissed, since the woman reporting it did not consider herself personally insulted.
Lets focus on describing the food itself instead of its name.
Fred-Chess 17:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added it back. The name is of interest for someone reading this page. Eighty 21:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed sentece 

message: I have just reverted the mention of the (older?) slang term in the lead as it is probably undue weight to include it there. However if someone could produce a reliable source (such as discussion about how the slang term may be considered offensive but is still in wide use) then there may be considered sufficient justification for adding it. I tried searching for a newspaper source for "negerboll" but failed to find anything relevant though there are a number of websites, such as recipe sites, that use the term but do not discuss usage. Fæ (talk) 13:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Negerboll is simply the old word for chokladboll and not a slang. When a debate started in the early 2000s they got to a conclusion that the old word negerboll may be offensive for some people so people started to search for an alternative. Some people started selling it as chokladboll and because of the confusion one seller (maybe more) sold them as "call them whatever you want ball". If you look at the swedish wikipedia it also include the names kokosboll (coconut ball) and havreboll (oatball). If you search for the word negerboll on svenska akademien ordlista (Swedish Academy's Wordlist) it states that "Negerboll <colloquial> ballshaped pastry made out of butter, oatmeal and cacao - Rather use chokladboll". I added it to the top because it's still widely used and had no intention of trying to be offensive. On the swedish wikipedia it says that the word chokladball was first added into the SAOL (Swedish Academy's Wordlist) was in 2006 while in the earlier editions only negerboll existed. There's also a pastry called negerkyssar (Negro kisses) that's been subjected for the same thing and is now recommended to be called chokladkyss (chocolate kisses) to not appear offensive to anyone. Because of the long use of the word negerboll and being the original name of the pastry and still is being widely used, I think it's important to include it at the top, even though the word today have gained a more offensive meaning. --90.230.77.147 (talk) 11:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, I suggest you chose the best quality published source that defines the word and add that as a footnote for any inclusion in the lead. You may wish to consider the guidance of LEAD which is probably the most relevant guidance. If chokladabolls have a well established controversy around the word negerbolls, then I agree that this is should have a brief mention in the lead text and worthy of finding some citations in its own right. Fæ (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll just add that after a pretty long discussion (and users reverting the article back-and-forth) the Swedish Wikipedia reached a consensus to have the name in the lead. BTW, could this be used as a source: DN (Swedish)? Jiiimbooh (talk) 01:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Aftonbladet: This mentions the debate. There would of course not be such a debate if negerboll wasn't used. Jiiimbooh (talk) 01:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, it doesn't contain any chocolate. I see "havreboll" used more and more often; that's in my OR though so if someone can find a separate source for that please put it in. Jikybebna (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: ''negerboll'' in lead

message: or something.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.161.131 (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  They should just call it an 8 ball 

message: Are there actually any sources to support the claim, that Chokladboll originated in Sweden? It is a pretty well known confectionery in Denmark as well, with one source mentioning it in 1943. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I still haven't seen any sources that states that the Chokladboll originates from Sweden, and since I have found a source that states it is from Denmark, I think this is the information that should be presented in on the page. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin