Talk:The Power of Now

message: I haven't really read the book (my mom recommended it to me, is all), but I think my copy edits have reduced ambiguity. OTOH, having not read it, I may have mis-represented some things, although I doubt this (mostly I fixed paras, not content within).
I didn't remove redundant "Tolle"s or "The book"s, however, since I'm not aware whether a sentence is contingent on the one before it or on the book generally. That can be fixed by a reader. Xavexgoem (talk) 22:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did some copy-editing 

message: I have read the book, and will be working on a clarification of the section on its Theme, which I hope to post shortly (after Christmas hopefully!). 
For now, it seems to me that the final paragraph in that section is out of place here. The book is far more original than merely a restatement of the Buddhist principle of dukkha It is an original work on spirituality. Tolle, as the page says, is not part of and promotes no one religious point of view. Of course, many influences can be discerned in his writings, including Buddhism. Actually I find there are strong Christian influences in his works, not least in his concept of Surrender. The reference to Buddhist principles has had no citations added since it was inserted some months ago, and I have therefore deleted it. In its place a section on Influences on Tolle's thinking might be appropriate, but probably in the main article on Eckhart Tolle rather on this page which is devoted specifically to just one of his writings. Silence-is-infinite (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme 

message: In the lede it gives 1997 as the publication date and uses the book as a source.  In my version of the book (Hodder and Stoughton, the English version) it says 1998.  Can someone with the New World Library version check if it actually says 1997 or 1998?  Should be on the first page of his preface. 122.111.224.134 (talk) 11:57, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the lead wordings to represent the correct issue about publication date. Thanks ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 12:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publication date 

message: Are comments left on Amazon book pages now considered suitable sources for WP? 78.151.172.252 (talk) 21:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  Feel free to remove them.  Gregcaletta (talk) 09:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed all the individual comments, and left only the percentage of reviewers who gave the book 5 stars.  Gregcaletta (talk) 05:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the entire entry because: the information is subject to change on a daily basis, it violates WP:OR since the source makes no claims or statements about what number or percentage of people gave the book a 4 or 5 star review and lastly because the citation and link lead to a place where the book is for sale.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  19:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Basic mathematics does not count as original research but your other objections are reasonable. Gregcaletta (talk) 01:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: This article is written by followers and sheeps.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.91.9.189 (talk) 02:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: *It has been estimated that by 2009 The Power of Now had sold 3 million copies in North America.
Either the above statement in the lead came true or not. In any case it should be updated to reflect the current situation.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  21:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it was estimated in 2009 that at that point it had sold 3 million copies.  It was not a prediction.  If you like, you can read the relevant part of the cited and then change the phrasing to make it clearer.  Gregcaletta (talk) 00:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct, my mistake, it was not a prediction. I'll look at the source and see what can be done to clarify the sentence. Thanks for you input.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  18:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: True or not?

message: According to WP:MOSBOLD, bold is to be used only for a list of defined terms, and is not appropriate to create emphasis for words in the middle of a sentence. However, italics can be used instead.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  19:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bold face type in the article

message: It seems the article focuses mainly on the positive presentation of the book.  Does anyone have critical resources, e.g. from the Critical Inquirer.  As far as I know scientists have also dealt with the topic of common grounds of religion.  How does that compare?
Thanks for further information
MelchiorG (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resources for critical reception 

message: Per this discussion above I'd like to begin a rewrite of this article. At present it is subjective compilation of quotes from primary sources (the book reporting on itself). This is a flagrant violation of WP:PRIMARY and needs to be rectified. It is especially egregious because the book has so many secondary sources that have reported on it. Some are listed below. 
 
*The Independent (London, England)--Tolle in His Own Words the Power of Now 
The Independent (London, England); June 21, 2008; 700+ words ...unquote tolle in his own words The Power of Now " The pain-body consists of...Jivamukti centre in New York. chose The Power of Now as her other book (apart from...another devotee, who also chose The Power of Now as her Desert Island Book...
*Telecommunications Weekly--FonoLibro Releases Spanish Audiobook of International Bestseller "The Power of Now" from Eckhart Tolle.
Telecommunications Weekly; August 11, 2008; 586 words ...of its latest production, "The Power of Now, A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment...certain that Eckhart Tolle's 'The Power of Now' will be one of our bestselling...of two of Tolle's titles: "The Power of Now" and "A New Earth." The latter...
*Small Press Bookwatch--The Power of Now in Your Life.(Brief article)(Book review)
Small Press Bookwatch; June 1, 2007; 312 words The Power of Now in Your Life Tangela B. Pierce Morgan...author Tangela B. Pierce presents The Power of Now in Your Life, a self-help guide...s spirit comes directly from God, The Power of Now in Your life blends spirituality...
*WAM - United Arab Emirates News Agency--KALIMA publishes Eckhart Tolle's 'A New Earth and the Power of Now' in Arabic.
WAM - United Arab Emirates News Agency; April 1, 2010; 700+ words ...Eckhart Tolle, 'A New Earth and the Power of Now', translated into Arabic...New York Times bestsellers: 'The Power of Now' (translated into thirty...and Spanish. In addition to 'The Power of Now' and 'A New Earth', Eckhart...
*Cape Times (South Africa)--The Power of Now'.(Entertainment)
Cape Times (South Africa); March 26, 2010; 205 words ...lecture, Finding Your Life's Purpose, will be screened at Labia on Orange on Sunday at 6.15 pm. The author of The Power of Now, finds humour in the absurdity of our lifelong lessons this time round, cutting something of a Mr Bean figure...
*Leisure & Travel Week--Transformations Into Remarkable Men: "The Power of Now" Meets "The Power of Intention".
Leisure & Travel Week; August 20, 2011; 575 words ...tickets go to: http://www.eckharttolletv.com/four-inspiring-events/af/small. Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now is one of the most influential spiritual books of our time. A #1 New York Times bestseller, translated into 33...
*Daily Mail (London)--'Cody Time' Is All about the Power of Now
Daily Mail (London); February 27, 2012; 700+ words ...Eckhart Tolle, and so many of the spiritual teachers who have tried so hard to talk sense into the rest of us, in 'The Power of Now'. It's all about the here and now. Trying to undo the past simply drives us all half- crazy. Similarly, visualising...
*M2 Best Books--Peace Arch acquires screen rights to Milton's Secret: An Adventure of Discovery through Then, When, and the Power of Now.
M2 Best Books; October 2, 2009; 281 words ...Tolle and Robert S. Friedman. The book, Milton's Secret: An Adventure of Discovery through Then, When, and the Power of Now, is being adapted as an action family film, with Donald Martin writing the screenplay; Tolle, Friedman and Constance...
*Risk & Insurance--The power of now: monitoring claims performance for continuous improvement depends on information that is current, relevant and clear.(SPECIAL REPORT: CLAIMS)
Risk & Insurance; April 1, 2010; Weiss, Neil; 700+ words summary * New claims technology brings new opportunity for continuous improvement. * To maintain a high-performance claims operation, insurers need the ability to generate and leverage real-time information. * Best results can be achieved when the capabilities are native to the claims
*The Spectator--The power of now
The Spectator; March 19, 2011; Phillips, Peter; 700+ words Whatever lay behind Radio 3's decision four years ago to reduce the number of live concert broadcasts to a mere handful, it cannot have been the recent phenomenal success of 'live' relays from the Met in New York to local cinemas. Even the service of Nine Lessons and Carols from King's has been a
*The Irish Times--Someday Stories of Success ; Ten People with 10 Things That They Had Always Said They Would Try 'Some Day'. Catherine Cleary Helped Them Harness the Power of Now
The Irish Times; May 4, 2013; Cleary, Catherine; 700+ words S o how did the Somedayers do? We had 10 people with 10 projects and 30 days in which to crack them. Each person was trying something they had always said they'd do "someday". They started at the beginning of January. We had three writers, two piano players, two singers, a table tennis player, a
*Chicago Sun-Times--WE GET WHAT WE GIVE . . . IT'S A KARMA THING' Russell Simmons: "I never liked religion very much. I never had faith in anything that I couldn't see. And yoga really helped me feel more comfortable [with] the idea of being present, the simplest idea of spirituality, the power of now." Series: THE GOD FACTOR
Chicago Sun-Times; April 3, 2005; Cathleen Falsani; 700+ words NEW YORK -- This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, this little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine. . . . As a rousing version of the gospel song blasts through the dimly lit yoga studio in lower Manhattan, the Godfather of Hip Hop is standing on his head, eyes closed, feet swaying to
*The Independent (London, England)--This Man Could Change Your Life
The Independent (London, England); June 21, 2008; Walker, Esther; 700+ words ...publication of his first book, The Power of Now, which has since been translated...of the Bible - and one copy of The Power of Now; the former X-Files actress Gillian Anderson f chose The Power of Now as her other book (apart from...
*Chicago Sun-Times; December 5, 2010; 610 words ...pals have come up with what looks like a parody of “spiritual workbook” sensations such as Eckhart Tolle’s The Power of Now and Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way. But upon closer inspection, one might actually learn something about oneself...
*AP Worldstream--German-born spiritual teacher agrees to one-book deal
AP Worldstream; August 13, 2003; 360 words ...is author of the best seller "The Power of Now." "Two editors within Penguin independently gave me `The Power of Now' as a gift," Penguin President...2000 after Ryan recommended "The Power of Now" to Winfrey, who gave the book...
*Deseret News (Salt Lake City)--Winfrey's latest pick is Tolle's self-help guide
Deseret News (Salt Lake City); February 3, 2008; Hillel Italie Associated Press; 407 words ...author of the million-selling "The Power of Now," as her latest book club selection...whose other books include "The Power of Now" and "Stillness Speaks...endorsed Tolle's work, citing "The Power of Now" on her Web site as among...
*Winnipeg Free Press--Oprah picks self-help book by B.C.-based writer
Winnipeg Free Press; January 31, 2008; Anonymous; 323 words ...author of the million-selling The Power of Now, as her latest book club selection...Tolle, whose other books include The Power of Now and Stillness Speaks, is a native...endorsed Tolle's work, citing The Power of Now on her website as one of ...
*Telegraph - Herald (Dubuque)--Oprah's selects 'A New Earth' as top book
Telegraph - Herald (Dubuque); February 5, 2008; The Associated Press; 324 words ...author of the million-selling "The Power of Now," as her latest book club selection...whose other books include "The Power of Now" and "Stillness Speaks...endorsed Tolle's work, citing "The Power of Now" on her Web site as among..
* — Keithbob • Talk •  19:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite of article using secondary sources

message: I agree with Keithbob that the article needs to be re-written without citing the book itself. Keithbob has done an excellent job of assembling sources. The Summary section of the article (now called "Topics contained in the book") needs to be gutted and trimmed down to the maximum allowable Summary word-count in WikiProject:Books. It should probably mainly quote secondary sources, not the book itself. 
Then the Reception section should be bumped up with real reviews and quotes from reliable sources and major media. Then, some sort of Impact or Legacy section should be added, or perhaps included in the Reception section ("Reception and impact"), that traces the book's rise to intense prominence and its influence over the years. Plus some negative reviews should be quoted if they haven't been. Plus the citations to the reviews and mentions need to be fixed, filled out, and wikilinked. 
Hope that helps. I'm not sure I have time to collaborate. I have the PON book but I haven't looked at it in 11 years, nor have I read any of Tolle's other works. Softlavender (talk) 23:49, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: I agree with Keithbob

message: What about this section? I haven't seen this before in a book article on WP. It seems unnecessary to me. Comments anyone?-- — Keithbob • Talk •  22:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that should go. It's incomplete (if the book has been translated into all those languages), and I've copied the main point (its original publication) into the body text. Softlavender (talk) 23:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done! -- — Keithbob • Talk •  23:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Publication history?

message: Thank you everyone, for your help in overhauling this article and making it WP compliant.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  22:35, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Thank you

message: Hello,
I have heard a lot of good things about this book and I am planning on buying it. However I have some recommendations about the article.
First, I think that the article should be unbiased by using articles, reliable ones, rather Celebrities such as Oprah or Paris Hilton as references for future readers. It sounds not only bias but it does not really provide information about what these people standards and definition of what "a great book" is. It can also be a distraction from the articles, having three or more celebrities as a reference shades more attention on the celebrities than the article itself.
Also, I do not understand the reason why the four chapters had been selected. Is there any specific themes they are following? or Is it a way of summarising the book? I would recommend a brief summary of the book under the overview sections. If on the other hand there is a reason of the selection of these chapters then it should be mentioned in the beginning of the section "Selected Chapters".
Another of my recommendation would be the sources. I believe that rather than newspapers, having a variety and wide range of references would be more reliable. All the articles are only supporting the books, I think that in order for someone to make a choice, it is important to have pros and cons, or even neutral articles about the book. For instance the reference <ref>"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/eckhart-tolle-this-man-could-change-your-life-850872.html" /ref> that clearly states that the author could change your life as a title, is making sound like a marketing article to sell the book rather than an informative one.
Finally, I have two questions regarding the articles.
It is mentioned in the first line of the overview, "One reviewer", who is the reviewer? 
I am also curious to know which bookstore actually sell this book, since I am planning to buy one.
Other than that, great articles, and very well organised, and easy to read--Hananbechir (talk) 00:13, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Critics