Talk:1986 FIFA World Cup

message: Football World Cup 1986 → 1986 FIFA World Cup – following the consensus of naming the World Cup articles as FIFA World Cup in Wikipedia, and consistency of naming the major international football tournaments.
Discuss here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Competitions#Requested move of Football World Cup articles.  --Pkchan 10:37, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved per consensus.  --Pkchan 13:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: An anon user keeps placing Alessandro Altobelli as having 4 goals in the competition, while I count only 3: Against Bulgaria, Argentina and  Korea Republic. Perhaps there's a mistake with the goals in the competition, but until that is fixed Altobelli should appear having 3 goals. Mariano(t/c) 09:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your're right, my mistake. I'll fix it.Mariano(t/c) 14:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alessandro Altobelli 

message: Frankly, there was no USSR team in 1986, it was the exact ukranian team (Dinamo Kiev to be precise) under the sickle-hammer disguise. Anyhow, the hungarian defeat 6-0 against them is often considered a "second Mohacs" (first Mohacs was the loss of a big battle against ottoman turks in 1526, ending independence). It is said the 1986 fiasco marked end of decline of the entire hungarian soccer team, which started in 1966 with frequent goalkeeper errors. We haven't yet recovered, no world cup slots for us since 1986. 195.70.48.242 10:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  USSR - Hungary 

message: Something is wrong in the penalty shots. In Zico's page it says he missed the penalty but on this page it says he scored. He missed, but then, if you make the change, then the last French player would not have needed to shoot. --Lduperval 20:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His article sais he missed "a penalty during regular time". He did score his goal in the penalty definition. No contradiction. Mariano(t/c) 08:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  France - Brazil 

message: Hopefully someone can tell us who broadcasted the games for the 1986 world cup match against Argentina and england.
:Lots of TV and Radio companies, in lots of countries.  Can you be more specific? Kevin McE 00:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What company broadcasted the Argentina-england game in 86? 

message: There should be more pictures of Diego Maradona's hand ball or his goal of the century.MegasAllexandros 02:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: As a New Zealander, I shouldn't be saying this, but I think it's a good thing we didn't make it into the final 24 like we did four years earlier. With the Rainbow Warrior incident fresh in the All Whites' minds, if they were to go up against France, there would have been quite a few fights on the pitch and the referee would really have to practise his card-showing because he was going to have to do it quite a bit. Scott Gall 21:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rainbow Warrior incident 

message: The name pique derives from "picante" (spicy or hot) as is mentiones on the main article, but it is also a play on words as "pique" also means heated rivalry (usually a sporting one but may mean other types) at least in Mexico. For example: Hay pique entre Mexico y EUA. = There is a rivalry between Mexico and The USA.
Amendezg 23:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the mascot: Pique 

message: Why was there only one european team drawn in Group B, and yet in Groups C, E, and F, there were three european teams drawn? How come the teams weren't separated on continental zones, as is the normal procedure?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.23.112 (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: World zones

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wc1986.jpg

message: I'm proposing to merge Hero (1987 film), the "official film of the 1986 FIFA World Cup," into this article. I nominated the film article for deletion based on an inability to find sources confirming its notability, but it survived thanks to some new (although slightly dubious) references provided by someone else. Still, as it is, I don't believe the topic is currently justified as needing its own article (as it is, it's apparently not even notable enough to currently be mentioned in this article), and the admin who closed the AFD suggested that it could be merged here. Any objections? Propaniac (talk) 16:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: Iran did not take part to this World Cup. It was Iraq which competed. Then, Iraq didn't reach the Round of 16, since they lost all three matches (Mexico, Paraguay, Belgium). So the standings of Group B is completely wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.205.215.11 (talk) 18:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran 

message: FIFA Game Report states that Maradona scored his 2nd goal against England in the quarterfinals at the 54th minute mark. I just watched the game (it was reprised by ESPN) and the clock was marking about 10:30 minutes on the 2nd half when he scored. This means the goal was scored at the 56th minute mark, instead of 54th, as FIFA rounds up the scoring time.
I won't change the information on this page because we all know that Wikipedia demands us to give reliable sources to write things down. So I can't just change the info stating that "I've watched the game, this timing is wrong". I also can't find any reliable source to change that info. Anyone that could help on finding this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.78.48.103 (talk) 01:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maradona's 2nd goal against England 

message: This expression is used in the Venue section.  Exactly what does it mean?  In what way is a venue Hosting a team?
Fomalhaut76 (talk) 14:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teams hosted in the first round 

message: The burden of providing reasons for inclusion is always on the person intending to add information to an article. Furthermore, the article should remain in the state it was in before the intended info was added until the discussion is resolved. – PeeJay 16:15, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Burden of proof is required, however, you reverted here and in other articles for very different reasons. The section can be marked with unreferenced until a ref can be found. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I never reverted the addition of players with red cards on the basis of poor sourcing; it was always to do with a lack of discussion. Don't put words in my mouth. – PeeJay 16:26, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The first person to start a discussion is the person who is best following BRD. It is not, in my opinion, appropriate to demand discussion before 'permitting' an edit. I have reverted Pee's latest edit, marked the section as Citation needed and am hunting down references. What a gripping life I lead! Longwayround (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

text:  Not quite correct, but that may be my interpretation. The link was to Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle. The editor made the bold edit. You reverted. You never discussed, you simply reverted. Here's the discussion. What is your problem with the addition? It's just as referenced as the scorers. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: My problem with it is that I don't believe a list of red cards is encyclopaedic. We don't record red cards in the  template after all. – PeeJay 16:35, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Many, many facts are not recorded in that template. For what it's worth, I believe that (if reliable sources can be found), this information could be valid. Longwayround (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, but if that's the case, why are we including the info about players who were sent off in a section entitled "Scorers". Red cards are not goals, nor do they have a direct effect on the score. – PeeJay 17:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Statistics should have their own section. Goal scorers and disciple should be recorded there as was done in the 2010 FIFA World Cup article. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  PeeJay, I think I may have been in the process of moving the Red-Cardees to a new section just as you posted that! Longwayround (talk) 20:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

text: The FIFA website only lists seven red cards on its stats page, but the match report for Canada's game against the Soviet Union also lists Sweeney. – PeeJay 17:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd gladly go for the FIFA website as a RS over PlanetWorldCup. Longwayround (talk) 20:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discipline 

message: PlanetWorldCup (not a reliable source) claims there were eight red cards in the 86 tournament. 
List of FIFA World Cup red cards is a completely unreferenced article but does show the eight players. 
Longwayround (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The FIFA website only lists seven red cards on its stats page, but the match report for Canada's game against the Soviet Union also lists Sweeney. – PeeJay 17:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd gladly go for the FIFA website as a RS over PlanetWorldCup. Longwayround (talk) 20:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible sources 

message: Removed the claim that a legitimate goal was disallowed. Can't find any legitimate verification. Tapered (talk) 13:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Germany vs Mexico, Quarterfinal

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message: All the match reports need to change to their archive URL after FIFA broke the existing links. Benica11 (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match Reports 

message: I am noticing that the section of the Second Round and Quarter finals is a complete chronological mess. It should start from June 16th games and follow a chronological order, it looks like the first game, Mexico vs Bulgary was almost at the end, while it was the very first game of that round, as taking an example.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Travsam (talk • contribs) 08:22, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting permission to edit