Talk:Klaus Barbie

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message: The article first gives a section with details about horrific crimes, but the section following begins with "After the war had ended, he was recruited by the Western Allies". This is not explained either in the article or subsequent wikilinks, or succinctly (and sourced) in the sources, or in this Talk page archive. Can someone help explain this, or is there another article that explains why these Nazis were helped? The Talk archive references a previous article Nazis in the CIA - do any admins have access to that deleted article who could post here the sources within? SamuelRiv (talk) 06:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did the British and US recruit and help him? 

message: This is a general comment:
There is little truth or value in this article.
So much is totally wrong on the history as well as interpretation of the facts.
This article should be deleted in its entirety so it could be replaced with valid information not 
the rubbish that is here now!
It's not possible to correct errors since they appear on nearly every line.
Hesweeney (talk) 05:15, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please give two or three specific examples of something that is totally wrong or misinterpreted in the article? It's the only way we can actually do something about it, because currently all major facts are cited here. SamuelRiv (talk) 14:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 
Re: Che Guevara >
There is no documentation to show Barbie ever talked with the Major Shelton just hear-say. 
There is NO information that links Barbie to the West German security services except again hear-say.
The sources cited for these two pieces of information provide NO real data. Since these are two damning charges they should be backed by real data. 
Alvaro de Castro can't be considered a source for a data that is remotely reliable, he was a known associate and proxy for Barbie, intimately involved in some of his criminal activities.
The most thorough examination of the US Govt and its connections to Barbie make it clear that the CIC never had any dealings with Barbie after he left Germany. It also covered the rumors of the US Army Intelligence thinking about re-using Barbie in South America, which they did not.
The CIA never had anything contact with Barbie. (CIA and CIC are by no means the same or even connected in any manner except they were/are agents of the US Govt.)
Re: Izieu > 
Barbie didn't just sign off on the deportation of the Jewish orphans but he personally lead the Gestapo/Wehrmacht unit that arrested the children and their adult caregivers.
They were sent to Drancy transit camp by him not to Auschwitz. Barbie never sent any Jews directly to the East, always to Drancy. Whenever Jews were arrested in France they were first sent to a transit camp, Drancy was one of many, then were grouped into train loads and sent east to Auschwitz.
Re: Lyon > 
No mention of the arrests and deportation of the Jewish support group in Lyon
Re: Jean Moulin > 
Barbie didn't just arrest Moulin but tortured him so severely that he died en-route to Germany after a brief stay in Paris. No useable information was extracted under this torture and the arrest has to be consider a major failure as a result since Moulin was DeGaulle's personal representative in France and had knowledge of the entire underground resistance and all its leaders.
No mention of how Moulin was arrested or of how Barbie manipulated French traitors in the Resistance.
Re: WWII > 
There is no mention of his assaults into the Jura Mountains with the aid of the Wehrmacht combat units and the Luftwaffe to rout out the Maquis and his brutally towards any captured Maquis and civilians. Hundreds died in mass shootings, burned alive in buildings and torture, the area in post-war France was known for the lack of men of marriageable age because of Barbie's murders.
There is no mention of his brutal attacks on the Jews of Amsterdam and the round-ups he managed.
Re: CIC > 
Barbie was recruited by an ex-Abwehr agent, Kurt Merck, to work for a group he controlled in Southern Germany that worked for the CIC. Barbie was on the run from US and UK security forces, he needed money, protection and living space.
Barbie wasn't housed in a hotel but he and his family were living in several CIC safe houses in Memmingen and Augsburg.
Barbie was briefly held by UK forces but not interrogated and escaped from them.
John McCloy did NOT refuse to extradite Barbie because he was never informed by AMGUS and the CIC where he was. They hid him, administratively and by reducing their contact with him.
There are many other errors.
I will append a list of sources because I do not have them to hand.
Hesweeney (talk) 22:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This bio of Barbie 

message: In this article it states that French Justice Minister Robert Badinter’s father died in Auschwitz, while in the article for Robert Badinter it states that his father perished in Sobibor.  Can someone with the proper knowledge please clarify this and fix the fact in the article which is incorrect?  It seems more likely that that article about Mr. Badinter would have the correct information, but I’m not certain.  Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryBuff14 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory information between linked articles 

message: I'm sorry to see there has been NO to reply to my criticism of this article.
This may be the lamest, most incorrect article on Wikipedia I have ever read.
Please reply to my "talk" criticisms so a re-write can be done because a line by edit
is just a waste of time.
Hesweeney (talk) 04:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeat call for total erasure! 

message: There is no such Award as the Iron Cross first Class with Swords. There is an Iron Cross First Class and an Iron Corss Second Class. The higherr Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross in some levels has swords. 199.208.239.141 (talk) 12:45, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iron Cross 

message: These three years are left totally blank. What did he do at the time of the liberation? How did he escape arrest? Valetude (talk) 15:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 1944-47 

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thread_title:  Recent edit 

message: In the documentary "Hotel Terminus" it is said by an elderly German who a neighbor to the Barbie's that his younger brother was "schwachsinnig" (imbecilic or half-witted)...is there any more information on this? (The article only mentions a "chronic illness"). Historian932 (talk) 02:09, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  His younger brother