Talk:Alexander Hleb

message: He hasn't joined Arsenal yet, has he? Isn't he still waiting for a work permit? 140.247.23.64 4 July 2005 15:19 (UTC)
:Yes, he is still waiting for it. But he is already training with Arsenal, and has supposedly been presented 13th shirt number. --Monkbel 5 July 2005 17:52 (UTC)
:He has received work permit already. --Monkbel 16:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If the Arsenal one has copyright issues then nothing should be reverted. Chensiyuan 07:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arsenal 

message: http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/Kind=2/newsId=483222.html
Would someone create article for the award and add some link and content to Helb's article? Matthew_hk tc 16:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Belarussian Player of the Year

message: Could someone please add an IPA thing for this article. I'm interested in how this name is pronounced in Belarussian. Yonatan (contribs/talk) 16:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA 

message: They didn't have a page for him anymore, so they can't have a link
Go to OwnedbyHleb.co.nr
Theuserformerlyknownasboromadloon 19:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Fairsport Marketing Link 

message: 2002-03
2003-04
2004-05  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.25.254 (talk) 11:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  VFB Stuttgart statistics 

message: I don't think this one should have it's own section. It could maybe be emerged with the Arsenal section, but as an own, just because Barca is said to be interested, seems a little odd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.218.230 (talk) 16:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally don't think it deserves a section at all, as per WP:CRYSTAL.  It just seems unnecessary to put these kinds of sections on pages when it is just transfer speculation.  This kind of stuff is rampant in football, and if people want to read this kind of information, they're better off going to a tabloid rather than an encyclopedia.  If we added a section to a player's page any time a club said they were interested in a player, it would never end, and would get very cumbersome.  I'm for deleting it until/unless something happens in the future.  Until then, it's mere conjecture.  VincentValentine29 (talk) 04:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Won't mind if the section is wiped out. Chensiyuan (talk) 04:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Thank you.  I've been trying to help out as well.  Vincent Valentine 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's semi-protected for 3 days. Hopefully any rumors will calm down by then or the move will be made official. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 22:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the reports (the same ones that are prompting the changes), it would seem as though it will be completed sooner rather than later.  However, things could always "go a Nasri" and drag on for quite a while.  Thanks again, Vincent Valentine 22:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Hleb is a Barcelona player when it's reported on both Arsenal.com and FCBarcelona.com. Maybe even one -- but not neither. It is currently listed at neither. I'd even settle for BBC Sport... but there's nothing there, either. Reliable sources are key. The site needs to have a good track record.  – moonty (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: There is no rush to change his club until the transfer is made official. English sites would pick up on that immediately and then we can source it. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interest from Barcelona 

message: I have requested semi-protection for the article in an effort to combat the recent changes in club. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 21:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  I've been trying to help out as well.  Vincent Valentine 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's semi-protected for 3 days. Hopefully any rumors will calm down by then or the move will be made official. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 22:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the reports (the same ones that are prompting the changes), it would seem as though it will be completed sooner rather than later.  However, things could always "go a Nasri" and drag on for quite a while.  Thanks again, Vincent Valentine 22:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Hleb is a Barcelona player when it's reported on both Arsenal.com and FCBarcelona.com. Maybe even one -- but not neither. It is currently listed at neither. I'd even settle for BBC Sport... but there's nothing there, either. Reliable sources are key. The site needs to have a good track record.  – moonty (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: There is no rush to change his club until the transfer is made official. English sites would pick up on that immediately and then we can source it. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for semi-protection 

message: From Barcelona Official site Hleb llega hoy a Barcelona. --Saudi9999 09:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An Eng lang ref should be used in due course. Chensiyuan (talk) 14:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hleb to Barça 

message: just took off the part in the first paragraph that said "never should have left Arsenal." This was vandalism I guess, though it must be said that this is very true, and I think he is even quoted as saying it. 130.160.218.77 (talk) 03:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  took off some vandalism 

message: It's listed on the Benfica article and on the Barcelona one that he's out on loan to Benfica for this season.
Unfortunately Soccerbase hasn't updated this yet, so I'm somewhat loathe to do so here until they do and have a reliable reference.
I've tried looking round Benfica's site but I don't speak Portuguese and can't find anything referring to this loan on there. I guess it's probably best to wait until Soccerbase updates. IrishPete 07:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hleb's agent Shpilevsky yesterday said that his new club is definitely not Benfica. Belarus NT head coach Stange seems to know something as he said Hleb will arrive to team's camp on Tue or Wed with new contract on hands, but refused to name the team. We should just wait wait till 31st when transfer window closes.-NineInchRuiner (talk) 15:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like he's gone on loan to Birmingham City. I'll wait until the dust settles from all the transfers before updating anything. It's a silly time of year and you can't really go by anything the papers or media say until the player actually turns out for a team. IrishPete 15:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benfica 

message: Couldn't help but notice the slow edit war going on over the display of Hleb's Stuttgart club in the infobox, so thought we could use a clarification.
Convention on the English Wikipedia is that in the infobox, we display at least enough of a club's name to make it clear what club we're referring to. Piping VfB Stuttgart to just Stuttgart doesn't work, because there is another major Stuttgart club, Stuttgart Kickers (see WP:KARLSRUHER#Ambiguity). So we need to keep the "VfB" so the reader can see which club it is that Hleb played for, without having to click on the link. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that we're writing to make things clear for the reader. They shouldn't have to guess what a Wikipedia editor means by Stuttgart. Please see the style guideline section Wikipedia:Easter egg. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:04, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: While I mostly agree with the Karlsruher argument linked above, it's really hard to imagine anyone would refer to Stuttgart Kickers as simply Stuttgart. Plus, a reader doesn't need to guess anything as club names always wikilinked, all he has to do is to point a mouse to the word. -NineInchRuiner (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't think Stuttgart meant Stuttgart Kickers either, but I'm reasonably well-informed on football club names and how they're referred to these days. As the infobox is for a brief but clear summary of the player's career, it's particularly important to make the information in it clearly available to the general reader who isn't necessarily as well-informed as you or I. WP:Easter egg says "You may want to display a text for a link that is different from the linked article title. ... However, make sure that it is still clear what the link refers to without having to follow the link." (my highlighting). Readers using cellphones to access WP, or using the print version, can't just point a mouse at a link. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfB Stuttgart  

message: In the article it says "Hleb won over 30 caps for the Under-21 Belarus side" but on the sidebar under "national teams" it lists "Belarus U-21 24 (5)" - meaning 24 caps, 5 goals. 24 is not "over 30", so which figure is correct?
:: Hi. His exact number of under-21 caps is indeed 24, that's even including friendlies. The earlier message in prose is either incorrect (I'll fix it), or mis-interpreted (there well may be over 30 of all youth caps together, u21+u19+u17). --BlameRuiner (talk) 14:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statistic discrepancy 

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message: This has been removed from the honours section three times now, with varying rationales. It was unsourced, so that would have been straightforward, but none of the other honours were sourced either. It's now the only one that is.
The current regulations for the competition allow for 18 medals for players; I believe this to have been the case in 2011. However, they also say that "Additional souvenirs may be presented with the consent of the Management Committee but shall be at the cost of the requesting Club." See EFL Carabao Cup regulations. Some clubs choose to make that request. Mr Hleb did not play in the final, but, like Scott Dann, Matt Derbyshire and others who contributed to the cup run, he was presented with a medal at the time. Kevin Phillips alludes to that in this piece.
As another editor said in their edit summary, there are pictures. And individual pictures of a player with a medal prove little: maybe he borrowed it from a teammate just for the photo... Unfortunately I'm no good at searching for pictures and my eyesight's nothing special, but in these group photos of the whole team celebrating on the field, each of them wearing the medal they've just been presented with, the chap in the anorak on (or just off) the left hand end also wearing a medal looks like Mr Hleb to me: Image 1 Image 2
As to written sources, there are plenty that mention his medal. Some might just be throwaway lines or assumptions that because he was on the books and played in the earlier rounds, he must have got one. Others are explicit: e.g. Talksport's "The 32-year-old spent time on loan at Birmingham in 2011 and earned a League Cup winner’s medal, despite not appearing against his former club Arsenal in the final", or this Russian news agency piece which says "While at Birmingham, he received a winner’s medal in the 2011 League Cup, but missed the final through injury". cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:22, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a comment. I can't for my life understand why is an "honour" equals "receiving a medal". It's about the weirdest consensus on WP regarding football players.-BlameRuiner (talk) 22:09, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 League Cup medal