Talk:Joe Jackson (musician)

message: There is a  need for a disambiguation page here.  There is also a Joe Jackson who is the father of the late Michael Jackson, famous rock musician.  Joe Jackson (father of Michael) is himself a musician as I understand it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguation needed 

message: yes it was. it was played on flash FM  DARReNTALK 18:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wasn't steppin out in GTA Vice City?

message: I haven't read Joe Jackson's autobiography. Apparently it mentions his penchant for Real Ale. Did he, by chance, refer to his sexuality? If so, I think that's at least as significant as his drinking and smoking habits. In fact, if it doesn't mention his sexuality, that's of interest, too...especially given Jackson's song "Real Men." MJFiorello 18:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've just finished reading it - it's an excellent read by the way, highly recommended - he mentions girlfriends including one he lived with for some time and a wife to whom he was married for two years. The book finishes in 1978/9 so there's nothing more recent than that.  I'm not sure why it (his sexual tastes) matters to anyone - I like the guy for his music and (now) his writing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukurko (talk • contribs) 21:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal/Romantic Life 

message: See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 09:07, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations & References

message: Just placed a couple of photos here, and found some problems. 
*First, please note that references are only required for statements that could be questioned. In addition, when there are several statements in successive sentences, there is no need to place a reference at the end of every sentence if it's the same one. I found myself removing a lot of excessive references to the same book or website, and didn't even get started.
*Second, please don't "over-wikify" words that are clear even to people who speak other languages. Words like record producer, cassette tape, record contract are easy to understand. This piece obviously shows a lot of love and care from the editor(s), but should have some redundant references, and unnecessary wikification removed, and copyedited. Take a peek at Bob Dylan or any other FA rated article to get the idea. Less means more. If you'd like help, leave a note for me on my talk page.--leahtwosaints (talk) 23:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikification and Footnotes 

message: This article has been reverted to an earlier version as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement.  Text entered in   duplicated at least in part material from . Other content added by this contributor may have been copied from other sources and has been removed in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations. Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. Content added by other contributors subsequent to the introduction of this material can be restored if it does not merge with this text to create a derivative work. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. ----Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:37, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright problem

message: I removed a quotation that was included as a section because it served no purpose in the article. Since the quotation was referenced, removing one meant removing the other. There is no way to save the reference and remove the quotation. But, as mentioned, the inclusion of the quotation does not add to the article, so both should go. There is no good reason to have a reference in an article just for the sake of having a reference. It needs to be a reference for something of significance, or the insignificant item and the reference for it should both go. 142.177.23.203 (talk) 01:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: it's a ref to the quotation... and for some odd reason we have tons of quotes on wikipedia... people are even famous for certain quotes.. your opinion is noted but perhaps you should attempt to reach a consensus on the removal instead of warring over it... - 4twenty42o (talk) 05:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like WP:BRD to me, so no problem. And my share of the consensus-building effort is also a recommendation to remove that quote. There's no indication of why it's there; it's suddenly there. I'm not aware that Jackson is famous for saying this thing he apparently said. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 05:53, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, John. I agree that if the quote were a famous one that we should find a way to include it, but there is no reason to think it is anything other than a random quote of something he once said. I also find the suggestion strange that we should decide what content an article should have not based on whether the content merits inclusion, but based on whether it allows for one more reference to be included. The quality of the content should drive what is in the article and then references should be included just to support that content. If content simply for the sake of lengthening the reference list were a good idea, then why not add these Jackson quotations: "The element of surprise is very important," from an interview in the Intelligencer Journal Lancaster, PA, April 15, 2005  By Jon Ferguson; or "When I was a kid, I remember thinking that someday I'd be able to get in a spaceship and go to another planet. But it didn't happen, and I'm kind of sorry about it." from an interview in the New York Times by Stephen Holden published April 26, 1989. We could dig up dozens of other quotes from every interview he has ever done and add them, too, but they don't add anything of substance to the article, so have no place in it. Adding content is not about padding the bibliography. I thought we all were taught that in high school. 99.192.51.191 (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The editor who originally reverted the edit removing the quotation has made over 100 edits on other pages since this discussion was started, but has not participated in this discussion. I have to wonder if he has dropped his objection. I am going to remove the quotation again and ask that anyone who opposes the removal come her and discuss the issue, not just revert it. 99.192.87.206 (talk) 01:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless quotations 

message: Surely this doesn't need to be inserted more than once a paragraph. BTW most of them are referenced in A Cure For Gravity. Derekbd (talk) 21:34, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation needed

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It seems that this has been brought up on at least one album talk page, but some of the wording in some of the Jackson album articles is perhaps too similar to AllMusic's... Caro7200 (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  AllMusic 

message: This 2021 release is missing. It is 2 CDs along with a DVD of the State Theater show. This tour was Joe Jackson, Todd Rundgren, and Ethel (https://ethelcentral.org/). The Amazon link has more details (https://www.amazon.com/State-Theater-New-Jersey-2005/dp/B092K22XYZ_). The currently top review has some information on why this wasn't released in 2005.
FWIW I saw them on this tour at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. It was fantastic with a great version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with all artists as an encore. A Hatch Shop (now part of the Country Music Hall of Fame) print was made for the show. This is the link (https://digi.countrymusichalloffame.org/digital/collection/hatch3/id/48747/rec/1) to the poster. I have this signed by Todd and am happy to post a picture if it makes sense once this is added. 
--JoelSherrill (talk) 19:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing State Theater New Jersey 2005 CD/DVD