Talk:Cost engineering

message: As a professional, certified cost engineer, I was surprised not to find a reference to my field here. However, now I know. When I add an article, it keeps getting recommended for deletion. I have no clue why. I thought the idea was that one person could get an article started, and others could help improve it. Apparently, it must be perfect from the get-go, entered by one of the initiated. Help.Jkhcanoe (talk) 04:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I might have been heavy hand by PRODing it. However, you do need to find third party references that meet WP:V and WP:RS. I'll remove the tags for now.  Avec nat | Wikipédia Prends Des Forces.  04:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Like you, I too am a certified cost engineer, but I think this should be combined with Quantity Surveyor. The reasoning behind my suggestion is "cost engineering" as a term has no rational basis. (See any standar English language dictionary for the terms "Cost" and "Engineering" and you can quickly see the term to be nonsensical in meaning- an oxymoron.
Furthermore, as RICS (Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors) has agreed to reciprocity in recogning the CCC/E, supports my argument that the two defnitions should be merged.
BR,
Dr. Paul Giammalvo, Jakarta, Indonesia
Dr PDG (talk) 13:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of Cost Engineer 

message: Cost engineering is an accepted and valid profession, even with dictionary definitions. For the area of application in which we are considering the defintion, which is construction and operation of facilites, cost is the monetary outlay required to achieve the objective, and an engineer is a person who is engaged in a profession which is a branch of engineering. Engineering is the application of science and mathematics to harness matter and energy to the benefit of mankind (and maybe animals now, too).
Although the term quantity surveyor predates the term cost engineer, it is an inadequate term to define the function of cost engineering. I would refer the reader to the dictionary to combine the terms quantity and surveyor. Quantity surveyors are a uniquely British (and related) profession, regulated by the respective governments. If there was an effort to expand that defined term and profession worldwide, it failed to do so.
While cost engineers and quantity surveyors (and for that matter cost estimators, preconstruction managers, and other named professions) may have differing titles and perform similar functions, the terms are already established and cannot be combined without some negotiation and agreement between the professions.
I would suggest for Wikipedia that we cross reference the professions and articles as much as possible.
Gshills (talk) 20:21, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost Engineering is a valid and accepted profession 

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