Talk:Spells and spell-like magic in the world of Harry Potter

message: Ascendio is a charm to ascend into the air.
:(Who added this?  It should include a source.  I recall this from the GoF movie... but not from any book.)  --Obsidian-fox 04:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ascendio

message: Immobulus - "This spell is used to freeze an object in place. This spell is from the movie version of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets."
Did Hermione use the spell on the pixies in the movie? I think I do recall it being used in the movie Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Professor Lupin uses it to freeze the Whomping Willow before entering the passageway to the Shrieking Shack). Also, should it be spelled "Immobilus" if it is derived from "Immobile"? neatnate 18:42, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Immobilus

message: The article says that "Locomotor" has no Latin roots, but that word is derived from Latin - its parts are "locus" (place) and "movere" (movi, motum: to move) - so the meaning is something like "to move to another place". Compare "Locomotive" etc. --84.135.229.54 28 June 2005 22:02 (UTC)
*fixedPeregrineAY 17:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: locomotor

message: I expected this article to be a complete list of spells in Harry Potter - there seem to be a lot of spells missing (Lumos? - wand casts a light, Reparo? - repairs an object, Finite Incantem? - the spell used by Professor Snape in Chamber of Secrets at the duelling club to restore calm, the spell Draco used in Chamber of Secrets at the duelling club to produce a snake, etc). Brianjd
Well then, by all means feel free to add to the list. That is what Wikipedia is all about; constant improvement in content by continuous editing. Sinistro 19:47, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I understood the Protean Charm to be on several objects, and to make each object that had the charm cast on it imitate the master object which could be changed. While changing, the objects would grow hot. Sneezygirl (talk) 19:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other spells 

message: Maybe it would be a good idea to decide on some kind of "house style" to stick with when adding or amending spell information? For instance, looking down the list now, there are times when you might find certain names, Snape for instance, unlinked, and other times you could find them as Severus Snape, which is, I assume, the preferred format? Of course, one could not gaurantee that everyone amending the article would stick to such "standards", but if all the previous entries were of a similar style, it might encourage new editors to stick with it? Perhaps not a huge issue, but feel free to comment. Splaty 14:49, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting 

message: Legilimancy is NOT a spell, it is an obscure magical art.Phoenix Song 02:27, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Legilimancy

message: I totally agree that Diffindo "severs the target", but that's what other spells do, isn't it?
The question is just what it does, I don't have the Goblet of Fire at hand to check. But i'd say it rips things apart? --AmiUhle 14:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Arthur does not use a verbal spell to bust out of the Dursley's fireplace. I would say that it is a severing charm, specifically one that makes slashes or cuts, which we see when Hermione accidentally cuts Ron's knee in the Deathly Hallows when trying to free him from rope bindings. Also, the only other spell that is similar to this would be 'Relashio', which forces an object to open or release something, also seen in the Deathly Hallows. Sneezygirl (talk) 19:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diffindo 

message: "Sectumsempra
[...] Also used in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by Harry on Malfoy, which he is punished for with detention by Severus Snape (who, in fact, created the spell)."
"by Harry on Malfoy, which he is punished..." 
Which he? "which is punished", maybe...
Anyway, as I did not reach the chapter, I'm not sure which is which, but I think this should be corrected...
Vlad 13:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is an error here... 

message: I propose the "booger" comparison be removed. Granted, bogey is a British-slang term, but the same can easily be said for booger. If you have a British-slang with an American-slang equivelant on the page, that only helps British people or Americans. There should just be a NON-slang comparison for it. - Gerbon689 08:38, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bat-Bogey Hex 

message: What happens when the Secret-Keeper dies before revealing his secret? Is the secret revealed or forever concealed?
:Simply put, we don't know. Since now this has happened, however, we will probably find out in the next book. You may also consider asking J.K.Rowling in a chat interview or some other way. Sinistro 09:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fidelius Charm 

message: This page has been processed by N-Bot, which, for browsing convenience, changes links to redirects to lists to links to the relevant list sections: e.g. Unforgivable Curses is changed to Unforgivable Curses.
As a result, anyone who intends to split a section out of this page should be aware that, as of 4 September 2005, the following sections were linked to from the following pages:
* The Unforgivable Curses: Azkaban
* Imperius Curse (Imperio): Death Eater, Barty Crouch, Barty Crouch Jr., House-elf, Azkaban, Madam Rosmerta, Minor Dark wizards in Harry Potter, Minor Ministry officials in the Harry Potter books, Minor members of the Order of the Phoenix, Minor characters associated with Quidditch
* The Killing Curse (Avada Kedavra): Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Death Eater, Azkaban, Harry Potter (character), Sybill Trelawney, Dates in Harry Potter, Frank Bryce, The Riddles (Harry Potter), Dark Art
* Memory Charm: Barty Crouch
* Sectumsempra: Legilimency, Half-Blood Prince (character)
* Levicorpus: Legilimency, Half-Blood Prince (character)
* Cruciatus Curse (Crucio): Death Eater, Neville Longbottom, Dolores Umbridge, Azkaban, Minor Dark wizards in Harry Potter
~~ N-Bot (t/c) 05:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note to anyone intending on splitting off a section 

message: Do we really need the pronunciation guides for some of the spells?  Most, if not all, are pronounced exactly like they're spelled.  If there are going to be pronunciation guides, can they at least be in the International Phonetic Alphabet so there's some level of continuity?  For example, "ah", "uh", "o", and "er" can all be used to spell the same sound, when ə is both more accurate and less confusing than having four different spellings for the same sound. --Icarus 04:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation guides 

message: The spell's previous entry (a direct copy from The Harry Potter Lexicon) stated: 
:Fera Verto (FAIR-uh VAIR-to)
:"fera" - L. wild beast + "verto" - L. transform
:The spell transforms an animal into a cup or goblet.
:Taught in second year Transfiguration in the CoS film
:The subtitles indicate that this spell is written "Vera Verto," but this seems unlikely, since "vera" is completely unrelated to the spell while "fera" fits perfectly.
The presumption that the spell incantation actually given in the film (Vera Verto) is wrong (and instead must really be Fera Verto) is original research as well as uninformed.  "Vera", far from being "completely unrelated", is very similar to verre, the French word for "glass" in both its "drinking vessel" and "material" senses.  (Verre, in turn, is akin to Italian vetro and Latin vitro, which also mean "glass".)
"Fera" (from Latin for "wild animal/beast") being a "perfect fit" is arguable on a couple of points.  The pertinent film scene clearly stated that the spell was "to turn animals into water goblets" --not just wild animals-- as demonstrated on Scabbers the rat.  Also, spell incantations in HP have consistenly followed a pattern:  The words of the incantation describe the spell's effect, while the spell's target is simply indicated with a wand gesture and only optionally verbalized.  (For instance, "Accio" aimed at the object being summoned works as well as "Accio Firebolt" or "Accio Horcrux"; the same goes for "Reparo" and "Oculus Reparo".)  Fera Verto, then, would seem insufficient or incomplete-- suggesting "to turn a (wild) animal" without describing what it is to be transfigured into (a glass? a teapot? a button?).  Vera Verto, on the other hand, fits the pattern of an incantation that encapsulates in a word (or two) what its spell does.
Mercury McKinnon 08:00, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vera Verto 

message: Was there any reason to move the page? Was there any discussion of that? I don't really like the new title, I think it's a bit long and klunky. I'm going to move it back, please don't move it again without discussing it here first. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 04:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm not going to after all, because it appears the page is getting broken up, and I don't want to take the time to deal with that right now. I still think this page name is a bit klunky. What should happen is that this page goes back to Canonical spells in the world of Harry Potter, and that the new sub-pages are broken out from that article and linked to from that article, rather than moving the entire article to Spells and spell-like magic in the world of Harry Potter and then doing the breakouts.Ëvilphoenix Burn! 05:04, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: I started lowercasing all the instances of the word "spell" in section titles, as Wikipedia consistently used downstyle in titles, but then I noticed that even in the page titles the word "spell" seems to be capitalized.  Is this a consistent style decision made somewhere?  Why? —Brent Dax 19:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: Just wanted to say that I'm still on track, and will be merging in a couple of days. Real life got in the way for a bit, and it turned out that the end result needs some more work. --Kizor 21:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page merge 

message: The spell to hang people by their ankles.Allegedly invented by Severus Snape. It is canon. But I believe that’s impossible. James used Levicorpus on Snape in their 5th year. Advanced Potion Making isn’t on The booklist until 6th year. If you think about it, it just falls apart  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B045:90FE:6461:FCEA:FBFC:7C6E (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Levicorpus