Talk:Chicago Board of Trade Building

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* A review against the standards in Wikipedia Manual of style.
* A review of whether the cited sources are essential and properly placed. Some sources are cited early in the article for a fact and then not cited later.
* A review of whether the focus is on the main topic without non-notable trivia. I believe the article to be well structured, with sufficient details to support notability of the topic and significant events and people related to the topic.
* A review against the neutral point of view policy.  I believe neutrality is strong. Currently, the article does not advocate any financial or market system, architecture style, politicla figure, or position within the trading industry.
* Additional graphics depicting statues or art-deco features.
* Additional details of interior design or function for any of the buildings or locations, e.g. quantitative facts of floor space, offices, technology upgrades, employees served, etc.
** Added facts for floor space and pic of trading floor ChicagoPimp 20:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I removed the following: The building is connected to surrounding properties via the Chicago Pedway, a system of pedestrian passageways.  The supposed parts of the Pedway that the city shows on its map () do not connect to any other portions of the Pedway and are 1) an open-air sidewalk and 2) an overhead bridge that has been off-limits since soon after 9/11. Kevin Forsyth 14:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago Pedway 

message: Very enjoyable read and verifiable. Alientraveller 19:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Passed GA

message: I am not sure if the Chicago Board of Trade Building and One North LaSalle are the same.  See these links: http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Landmarks/O/OneNorthLasalle.html and http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Landmarks/B/BoardTrade.html. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: using Emporis (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=1northlasalle-chicago-il-usa vs. http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=chicagoboardoftrade-chicago-il-usa) and Encyclopedia of Chicago.  Bd. of Trade is the taller of the two. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  One North LaSalle 

message: removed from mainspace until we can find a source:-
* It remains the tallest art-deco building outside Manhattan.
--Joopercoopers 20:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tallest Art Deco building outside of Manhattan contention

message: I've removed :Image:CBOTmailbox.jpg (right|200px|thumb|Lobby mailbox at the Chicago Board of Trade. (photo: 2007-02-27)) from the article, because the statue pics were in the wrong section and had to go in the section where the mailbox photo was. I tried to put it somewhere else, but the picture layout is difficult to handle with so many short sections. Can anyone think of a way to get the mailbox picture back in? Carcharoth 14:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to note here what I said in more details at the FAC: there are two pairs of objects named Agriculture and Industry - the 35ft high relief sculptures (on the 1930 building) and the 12ft high statues (from the 1885 building and now in the plaza). Carcharoth 10:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture removed 

message: It's good to integrate miscellanea into the article. The vignette of Will Rogers and his lasso was previously in a trivia section, and I'm all in favor of having it moved elsewhere. Somebody moved it amid the (mostly) architectural history, whereupon it was more conspicuously out of place and trivial; I therefore commented it out. -- Hoary 10:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was me. I moved it from a section talking about the 1930 building (or a section that implied it was talking about the 1930 building), to the section about the 1885 building (the 'lasso' event took place in 1905). I thought it was rather a nice vignette about how a tour that was promoting Tulsa came to that building in Chicago - says something about the role of the 1885 building in the Chicago of 1905. I imagine newspaper headlines long the lines of "Rogers is star attraction at Chicago Building of Trade show, as Tulsa tries to lure Chicagoeans west", but that is just speculation. Carcharoth 11:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mr Rogers and his lasso

message: Found a nice website here with pics of the 1885 building, which appears to have acquired a clock tower at some point. Carcharoth 02:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous building (1885) 

message: See the picture here. That shows the Ceres statue, the hooded figures on the corners, adn I think, the relief sculptures between the corners are the 35 ft Industry and Agriculture ones. Carcharoth 02:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Architectural details 

message: The article states that "...the Chicago Board of Trade opened for business at 101 S. Water Street." 
Two problems:
# There isn't a 101 S. Water Street (anymore).  Water Street now runs only east-west, and is only east of State Street, so that all the addresses on it are East.  (There used to be a S. Water Street, but it got replaced by Wacker Drive.)  
# Chicago's street numbers changed in 1916(?), and maybe other times.  Is the 101 S. Water Street an 'old' address, or a current one?  (I think it's old.) Rick lightburn (talk) 17:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early history 

message: I have a very high res piture from the top floor with a view down the La Salle street. Picture is from last summer. If you would like me to add it, please let me know how to do it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbychu (talk • contribs) 03:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can upload it with the "Upload file" link in the box at the left here (in toolbox). It will need a proper license (usually GFDL) too. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 14:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  a new picture 

message: I find it confusing that there are two buildings referred to in his article that had the same name -- an 1885-1929 building and and 1930-present building (even a few other buildings are mentioned in passing in the 'early locations paragraph').  Most articles on buildings are for a specific instance of that building and not all buildings that had the same purpose.  Is there a way that this fact can be spelled out more explicitly?  I know that if readers read the article thoroughly from start to finish that they would understand that there was more than one "Chicago Board of Trade Building", but I still find it confusing that the dates in the nav-box at the bottom don't mesh with the build date in the first paragraph or the infobox. Thanks.DavidRF (talk) 17:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More than one "Chicago Board of Trade Building" in this article 

message: I just uploaded a photo to Commons here as public domain which I feel is better quality than the current main article picture from a clarity and composition perspective. It is at a slight angle, however (taken about a block away from the sidewalk). Just thought interested editors would like to know -- thought it might be a tad taboo to be bold where the Featured Article of the Day was concerned, or I would change it myself. Thanks! pinotgris 22:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better picture 

message: I propose to change the image in infobox to :File:Chicago Board Of Trade Building.jpg. The newer image is of much higher resolution. It has has correct exposure particularly at the top of the building which is over-exposed in the current image. The statue on top of the building is also clear. --Jovian Eye talk 03:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think any big consensus is required for the image to be changed to the proposed one. --Jovian Eye talk 20:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New photo for infobox 

message: Nowhere does this article state how tall the building is in terms of the number of floors it has; if I'm wrong, please correct me.
Satchmo Sings (talk) 05:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number Of Stories Or Floors 

message: Can we mention a brief reference to the statue having no face because the sculptor thought nobody was gonna able to see it as the building was so tall that it was never gonna be surpassed? Reference though it's hard to find. Doblecaña (talk) 01:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faceless statue 

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message: This is a 2007 promotion that does not satisfy the current FAC. Here are but a few of its issues:
*There are too many LEADCITEs, much in common with other late-2000s FA promotions; they are not forbidden but are suboptimal practice, especially when the facts are not controversial.
*The "Early locations" section is inadequately cited; there is but one citation, which is not located at the end of the paragraph.
*Ditto to the first paragraph of the "Artwork" section, and the completely-uncited second paragraph of the "Trading floor" section.
*The "Surroundings" section is of dubious value to include; its last paragraph is further completely uncited.
*The "Awards and honors" section is a list that ought to be prose.
* is a) a dead link, b) sourced to the station (rather than to Guinness), and c) likely outdated as it's from 2007.
*The "Gallery" section does not pass WP:GALLERY, in my opinion
*The prose and layout overall read like a travel guide rather than an encyclopedia article.
Overall, this is a piece of work, and barring significant improvements in the next month or so this will have to undergo a Featured Article Review. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR notice 

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