Talk:One Tree Hill (TV series)/Archive 1

message: In Singapore, One Tree Hill and the O.C. were broadcast one after the other....so you can compare both show easily....
It irks me how adult-like the kids are in Tree hill, whereas the kids in OC behave like kids.. most especially Adam Brody.
*Are you serious? Nobody in the OC behaves like children; most "teen" shows are 27-year-old adults pretending to be 15 while showing a picturesque high school situation. Closest casting and acting I've seen is Undeclared. CKSCIII 07:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: other

message: Has anyone considered simply condensing the season recaps down into maybe two to three paragraph summaries instead of giant tomes recapping every sneeze, cough and ass wipe of the characters?
*I always thought that the seasons recaps were a bit long - that why I put them at the bottom of the page, otherwise you would have to read throught a heap of stuff before you got to any other section. The page could obviously be cleaned up a bit - a little more info (and maybe pictures) to begin with, and maybe a little less plot details.-.Matthew238 07:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like someone did, but I have to wonder if lifting them verbatim from TV.com is in compliance with copyright legality, since the editor of the show on that site assumes copyright over his/her words. TheMonkofDestiny 20:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is enormous! 

message: Hey, any One Tree Hill fans that are familiar with Peter Wentz wanna tell me what episode he's in and in what season if u know? Luv ya!
-Chloe Trohman
The episode(s) of OTH that Peter Wentz was in were: An Attempt To Tip The Scales (3.4), When It Isn't Like It Should Be (3.18) and I Slept With Someone From Fall Out Boy And All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me (3.19), all in the 3rd season. :) 210.50.189.32 08:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Wentz Information 

message: It seems that many of the episodes have names that refer to famous music albums or songs.  Some of these have links to the wikipedia article for the song/album, but is this really appropriate?  Seeing a link on the name of an episode makes me expect a summary, not a link to a completely different, unrelated article.
If the links to the albums/songs are kept, there should at least be a note on the linked article saying something like "xxxxx is also the name of a season 1/2/3 episode of One Tree Hill" and/or something explaining the significance of the name -- I've never watched the show, but maybe the episode called "All that you can't leave behind" has some deep connection to the U2 album?
Ampassag 07:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to song/album titles 

message: I must admit that I'm not really au fait with all the conventions for Spoiler Warnings and the like, but surely if in the Premise one is given information that might ruin a twist or surprise there should be a warning. A better solution, however, would be in the following from the Premise:
The show is currently in its third season and the above information is relevant only to the first season. There is nothing going on between Peyton and Lucas anymore, and Nathan and Haley are married. Lucas and Nathan have improved their relationship.
If everything after the first sentence were deleted then someone's future enjoyment of the show might not be ruined, like mine has been. (It's not the end of the world, though.)--Rubie 12:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler Warnings 

message: Does anyone know where the title, one tree hill comes from? why "one" tree hill, etc  (The previously unsigned comment was added by 222.153.32.111 03:31 UTC 6 June 06) 
The writers wanted to call it Tree Hill after one of them saw it on the map of Australia. It was originally gonna be called The Scott Brothers (hence Les Frères Scott), and then another thought why not add the "one" to the front to make it like the U2 song... Ellisjm 10:36 UTC 9 June 06
Actually the show was originally called "Ravens" because it was going to be a movie on The WB. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.149.208.69 (talk • contribs) 7:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the title?

message: These are supposed to be summaries/synopses, not long detailed accounts of everything. I suggest someone trim the fat out. Y2kcrazyjoker4 15:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As is mentioned above. Lists of episodes can go on its own page, as is done with other shows. Plot summaries could also be incorporated in a list of episodes, saying what happens each episode, althought that is easier to do with sitcoms with self contained episodes rather than dramas with overarching storylines. - Matthew238 09:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seasonal and episodal summaries- way too long

message: I was removing the Joe Davola from the Exec. Producers because a wikipedian on the main pages talk page warned about a vandal posting his name in a number of different articles. If Joe Davola is really part of the cast, then i'm truely sorry. dposse 00:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, understood.  Yep, he's really an executive producer on the show. -Shannernanner 07:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry. 

message: I think that a link should be added at the bottom of the page linking to the new OTH website on CW. The link is: http://www.cwtv.com/shows/one-tree-hill
Misha 18:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official OTH Website on CW 

message: According to both IMDb and TV.com, William Haze appeared in six episodes.  The list is according to the most prolific of the recurring characters; I fail to see anything unencyclopedic about this, as it shows who appeared in the most episodes, and it has nothing to do with POV.  I used the cut-off of five episodes so as to not make the list impossibly large, or stretch the definition of "recurring."  Putting them in order of episodes makes it easy to prune the list should it become too large in the future; the cut-off number of episodes could be modified.  Shannernanner 10:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recurring cast

message: A logo is not synonymous with a title screen; the former is a graphic used in promoting a product, the latter is a screenshot of the title sequence of a television show or film.  The date is not needed in the episode number as it is not mandated by the template syntax guide, and it should be assumed to be up-to-date; as well, the link provided next to the number lists all of the episodes to date.  When pluralizing a noun in which you pronounce both Ss, both are spelled out. Shannernanner 05:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please discuss changed here rather than continuing to revert.  The date is not needed because the page should be kept up to date.  If the date is added to that, it would be just as logical to add it to the cast list, saying, "This is the cast as of November 1 2006."  If there were no way to tell when the information had been gathered, it might be logical to include the date, but as the list of episodes is included in the link right next to the number, anyone can count the episodes to date. Shannernanner 15:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As no reply has been posted, I will return it to the recommended form. Shannernanner 06:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: Added the fact, that several episodes have only the shows logo or title instead ot the opening credits. It's somethin unusual that should be mentioned.
:Actually several series cut the credits sometime, like Desperate Housewives for intance. Siemgi
:: It should be mentioned, that some episodes only show the logo on black background. Usually those episodes assosiated with the High School Shooting or Payton's Stalker. This episodes also go without the theme song. Normally when the opening sequence is cut, the logo shows the bridge and the logo while some tunes of the poening song are played. So there is a difference there. Heinrich k 11:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening Credits

message: One of the most prominent things about OTH is the product placements - so much so that it affects storylines and character background information.  Dan Scott's car dealership changed brand a number of times, even during the same season.  The characters can be seen driving whatever brand of car Dan's selling.  iPods change to Rios change to 'mp3 players' - Apple computers become Dells become computers with stickers over their logos.  The whole cellphone thing.  As well, episodes where drinking or sex or drug use is part of the storyline often have PSAs as part of the commercial breaks.  The Sunkist tour tie-in as well as the music tours featuring artists doing appearances on the show.  The list goes on and on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bigdaddyhame (talk • contribs) 13:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Include a section about product placement/cross promotions?

message: Someone keeps linking to the French fan site "http://www.e-monsite.com/ravens" and the end of the section about Season 5. Would it be possible to add it to a bot filter to autmatically refert to the last edit before it was added? 68.151.121.221 21:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  French fan site spam 

message: I have moved the information on Anna Taggarro to the character's own page as I feel it unnecessary to devote so much attention to a temporary character in the "Season Two" section. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niall Feighney (talk • contribs) 20:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anna Taggarro 

message: Anyone with a knowledge of this subject want to try and make this a bit more readable? --Fredrick day 16:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  paragraphs are your friend 

message: why has someone taken off the DVD covers? Russell29 17:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Russell. I've moved your post to the bottom of the page, as new posts are meant to go at the bottom. To answer your question — it was explained in the edit summary. Check the history of the page. Also, see User_talk:Niall_Feighney#Your_question_to_Jkelly for a fuller explanation I gave to someone, with links to various pages that explain our policy. Regards. ElinorD (talk) 17:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No images - DVD

message: A discussion has been opened on whether to keep or remove the International Airing section of many TV programme articles.. Cheers—Illyria05 Ring•Contrib. 16:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Airings 

message: The individual episode articles for One Tree Hill (TV series) are now being reviewed according to episode notability guidelines.  Please contribute to the discussion on Talk:List of One Tree Hill episodes#Episode article review. Thanks. -- Jack Merridew 10:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice of One Tree Hill episode article review 

message: The Keith Scott link doesn't link to the fictional character in the show, it links to a person in the real world who is NOT the same person. 58.110.140.124 02:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, link is now correct. Julesn84 02:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keith Scott Link 

message: I moved most of the season 5 spoilers to the Season 5 article as the section was getting too big. Julesn84 00:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Season 5 spoilers

message: Seriously, could we not have a sentence or two explaining the show's basic themes or whatever?  "Teen television drama" isn't very informative, and then we launch straight into incredibly detailed season summaries. --86.128.73.139 20:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a very helpful intro para 

message: I watch One Tree Hill and have never heard of this character.  You click on the link for Kristia Bonita and it's some girl who was one Rock of Love with Brett Michals.  And isn't Taylor Cole a girl from Laguna Beach?
From Wikipedia:
"Taylor Cole(played by Kristia Bonita) (S1- present): Taylor is Brooke and Peyton's best friend, It is also reveled that she was best friends with Chantel and Haley since they were the age of 5. Taylor is Co- Captain of the cheerleading squad. Nice and Singalous, Taylor has been singing for a long time, and she finally gets a record deal in Season 4, Which she will become a hit pop superstar. Taylor also had boy problems, with Jaylen Gatina, They both dated each other from Season 1 to Season 4. They break up was due to his sister Rachel being out of control. Taylor is currently at Southern Cailfornia Unversity studying Music, after College she will start recording her album"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacks1287 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed that entry. It's vandalism and was included by someone who's been repeatedly vandalising the entry. Julesn84 17:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character does not exist 

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message: --DFW 14:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox for Wikipedians who like One Tree Hill (if anyone wants it) 

message: On the grounds that "One Tree Hill: Fast Forward" is not its own tv series, or even miniseries. Not that the following are absolutely definitive, but neither imdb nor tv.com list this as a series in its own right. Having the various video documentary/commentary clips listed as "episodes" on the official site does not mean it should have its own article here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.211.226 (talk) 02:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: Having just rearranged and renamed the overall sections, and understanding this is a big change, please refer to the Wikipedia styleguide for television shows.
The next step (and hopefully someone else will pitch in so I'm not alone in this daunting task) is to condense the season recaps by a LARGE margin, and to rewrite them so the tone reflects a real-world perspective.
Also, there are too many lists, for instance the character list. Wikipedia is not the IMdB!
One of the final things which needs to be done (as per a wiki guideline I just read) is not to give so many characters their own pages, this is an encyclopedia.
Thank you,
brandon.macuser (talk) 03:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Rewrite