Talk:Clan MacLaren

message: I see that someone without an account reversed my entry of the change in Clan leadership.  Chief Donald MacLaren, sadly passed away on June 22, 2023 and named his son, Florian, as his successor to the chiefdom.  So I have one again corrected the entry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pheigi (talk • contribs) 15:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Change in Leadership

message: I have replaced the image which was removed a couple of years ago by MacRory Mor.  Simply because you do not agree with the stone's contents does not merit its removal from this page.  It is a valid part of the Clan history. The decision as to whose name(s) appear on the stones is not made by the clans. Pheigi (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Replaced Culloden Stone Image

message: I removed the dispute template as the article is sourced.  The initiator of that dispute is known to post under numerous different names in an effort to alter information on this page because he does not agree with the content.  Supporting citations are in place in the footnotes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pheigi (talk • contribs) 16:03, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Dispute

message: Please can I make the editors of this article aware that the article is completely unsourced. Wikipedia rules allow any unsourced material to be removed without warning.- And in this case that is the whole article.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. There's a problem in the fact that silly stuff, like a clan taking its name from a Dalriadic king, and puffery like 'one of the oldest clans', can be referenced from various books on clans. These kinds of books aren't reliable sources for medieval history. For example, the Battle of the Standard factoid is wrong. I wonder if this blurb originates from James Logan's 19th century writeup on the clan, where he cites the 18th century Lord Hailes about the term "Lavernanis" - one of several named peoples who are recorded by Aelred of Rievaulx to have fought at the battle. Modern scholars regard these particular people to refer to men from Lorne or Argyll, not a specific family like the MacLarens (see Battle_of_the_Standard#Scots_Arrive_and_Deploy).--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: What are your credentials or your studies that enable you to make these statements Brianann MacAmhlaidh.  Your page says nothing about you. Pheigi (talk) 16:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Article is completely unsourced

message: I intend to re-write the history section of this article soon - with references. I will leave in any existing info that is well referenced. I will be happy to discuss any changes here on this talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 12:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Article re-write

message: Hi The Crest per its description should only have four points of the crown visible not all six. I have an image i can replace it with. Cordially MacRory Mor  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacRory Mor (talk • contribs) 04:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  B&W Crest Badge displayed is incorrect 

message: It has been proven by modern gaelic scholars that Abbot Labhran of Achtow did not exist, and that the MacLaren Chiefs genealogy published and displayed here is false. W.F. Skene and Margaret MacLaren mistook the MacLabhertaigh (MacLaverty) of western Scotlands Genealogy for Mhic Labhrainn (McLaurin)(which is not in MS1467. This has recently come to light from the Research of Ronald and Moira Black.http://www.1467manuscript.co.uk/
Cordially Mac  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacRory Mor (talk • contribs) 04:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbot Labhran of Achtow 

message: This MacLaren Clan history is mostly fiction, including an incorrect image of the Clan Crest. Anything that cites the following books "Collier's Scottish Clan and Family Encyclopedia", "The MacLarens", "The Highland Clans", is entirely fiction and sourced originally from James Logan and Daniel MacLaurin who fabricated a MacLaurin / MacLaren Clan history for publication in "McIan's Costumes". Which Mr MacLaurin later fraudulently used to matriculate his arms in the Lyon Court.
I intend to re-write this article using legal documents and church records.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacRory Mor (talk • contribs) 00:00, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is the widely distributed fictional version of the MacLaren clan history. 

message: The primary source for this article "Clan.Encyclopedia.MacLaren">Way, George and Squire, Romily, has no sources for anything written pertaining to Clan Maclaren  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macrorybeg (talk • contribs) 15:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite badly needed 

message: SCFE notwithstanding, any supposed Tiree connection has been refuted:
https://www.academia.edu/43786708/The_MacLaurin_Dreghorn_Hoax_1781_v2
Freuchie (talk) 16:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiree 

message: The suggestion that the Clan descends from Fergus Mor is an elementary mistake by the correspondent for SCFE. The Clan DOES claim descent from "King Loarn Mor", but he is not proposed elsewhere as a son of Fergus. See again at
https://www.academia.edu/43662512/Why_Fortriu_Was_Misplaced_By_Historians_Of_Old_v2
Freuchie (talk) 16:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clan Origins 

message: The text says:
".... the old parish of Balquhidder which includes the villages of Lochearnhead and Strathyre,.... long known as "Maclaren Country"." 
In fact Lochearnhead and Edinchip only became part of the parish of Balquhidder (quoad sacra) in 1702. Previous to that and continuing for civil purposes for some time it was in the parish of Comrie (see Statistical Account for Comrie). Lochearnhead is a very new village. Edinchip (including Lochearnhead)- and beside it Edinample - have never been part of "MacLaren Country". Freuchie (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introductory Paragraph 

message: I removed the information relating to the new chief's name and status as the Lord Lyon is still in the process of matriculating the new chief. Pheigi (talk) 15:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporary Change in Chief's Information