Talk:Lords of the Night

message: Piltzintecuhtli god of the Temporals???
My dictionary defines "temporals" as: 
temporal 1 |ˈtemp(ə)rəl|
adjective
1 relating to worldly as opposed to spiritual affairs; secular.
2 of or relating to time.
• Grammar relating to or denoting time or tense.
DERIVATIVES
temporally adverb
temporal 2 |ˈtemp(ə)rəl|
adjective Anatomy - of or situated in the temples of the head.
So temporal is not a noun. What does this mean? Also the footnote says "Acording Boturini". What the heck.  Senor Cuete (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piltzintecuhtli god of the Temporals? 

message: As we can see, there are contradictory claims from different sources/references in English, Spanish or French; references describing Centeotl as goddess or god, in the same way with Cinteotl, but there is an important clarification in the book "Diccionario de Mitología Nahua" by Cecilio Agustín Robelo on page 86, it says in Spanish "Centeotl is considered as a goddess, representation of the Earth, as deity of agriculture and Cinteotl as god representative of the god Tonacatecuhtli in the order of the fruits" according to Sahagún and Paso y Troncoso. --Giggette (talk) 08:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That book is 107 years old. Scholarship has advanced since then. His claim that there is a gender difference between cin and cen is clearly a misunderstanding - it is two dialectal pronunciations of the same word having nothing to do with gender. There are no contradictory claims in recent professional scholarship.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 11:00, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, who are you for judging?, you should respect all sources and of course there are still contradictory claims in recent professional scholarship, by Michael Jordan, "Dictionary of Gods and Goddesses" (2004). --Giggette (talk) 17:19, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You are misrepresenting Michael Jordan, who is also not a specialist in Aztec mythology, and who says the opposite of what you claim. I am not judging - I am simply acquaited with the relevant scholarship, and know that they do not cite Fernandez, Meza or Robelo, and that the general consensus in the contemporary mainstream literature is that Centeotl is generally referred to and depicted as a masculine deity. for example Miller and Taube refer to him explicitly as the masculine maize god.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You won guys, I won't bother you again with all my unrespected old minor sources, goodbye. --Giggette (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an observation on process, as I know nothing of this topic. Giggette, Wikipedia policies are quite clear that we don't have to, and indeed shouldn't "respect all sources", give them equal weight, or use them at all. Mainstream, specialist sources and opinions carry more authority and weight than minor sources. If the latter haven't been cited or subjected to peer-review by scholars in the field, we shouldn't use them.  Wikipedia material should be based squarely on the predominant scholarly viewpoint.   Haploidavey (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Aristocracy.--Giggette (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Centeotl & Cinteotl 

message: Most of the gods rule both, Night and Day: D1=N1 (Xiuhtecuhtli), D3=N6 (Chalchiuhtlicue), D5=N7 (Tlazolteotl), D6=N5 (Mictlantecuhtli), D7=N4 (Centeotl), D8=N9 (Tlaloc), D10=N2 (Tezcatlipoca)  – Why aren't this different sets? --176.5.22.82 (talk) 02:29, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lords of the Night & Day?