Talk:Chernivtsi Oblast

message: I don't feel passionate about presence or absence of the Romanian name in the beginning of the article and I will not revert. In fact, I admit I was wrong to remove it but for the reasons different from Talk:Harghita/Vote. I should have given the article some editing if I was conserned enough to play with names as per my proposal at Wikipedia:Eastern European Wikipedians' notice board. BTW, I invite everyone to take a look at the board and add it to your watchlists. So, anyway, I will try to contribute to this article, which doesn't seem neutral to me now, some time soon and, once I will get a better handle of the topic, I will be more prepared to decide what and how to list names. Anyone interested, please also check a recent edit history and talk at Kamianets-Podilskyi. I think there is an optimal solution there, with names in a separate paragraph about their etymology. Regards, --Irpen 21:59, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
:Is the Romanian name used to describe to the modern Chernivtsi Oblast by the local population or is it a name of a historic administrative region that existed there?
:: The modern region. Prior to WWII, it was "Judeţul Cernăuţi". bogdan | Talk 09:07, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanian name

message: Protected against editing by unregistered users, against the revert war by multipleanon accounts. mikka (t) 00:54, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  protected 

message: Several people said ay talk:Bukovina that Chernivtsi Oblast is not the same thing as Northern Bukovina. I can't but agree. In view of this, I will remove the Romanian name from the Oblast article. That article is about the modern Ukrainian subdivision which has nothing to do with Romania. While the Romanian name certainly belongs to the first line of the Chernivtsi, Hertsa and Bukovina articles which are articles on the old historic topics, it does not belong to the article about the modern Ukrainian administrative subdivision, especially since our Romanian colleagues seem to agree that Chernivtsi Oblast and Bukovina are different things. I hope our friends will be as tolerant as our Polish friends. Similarly, to this one, the Polish name is present in Lviv article but not in Lviv Oblast one. --Irpen 01:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanian name in the article about modern Ukrainian administrative subdivision

message: Last paragraph not wholly reflects condition a census and is weakly related with article "Chernivtsi Oblast". According to data census 2001 some people of the Ukraine has named itself Rusins. (In Zakarpattya ). Thereby was a full liberty of the choice ethnic accesories. --Yakudza 09:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Last paragraph

message: Hi WillyD,
Please understand, it was not Ukraine who occupied it, it was Soviet Union. Think as a comparison, that Galicia was occupied by the Soviets from Poland, but that it was a region inhabitted with Ukrainians. If in 1939-40 there would have been an independent Ukrainian state, I think some issues with Poland and Romania could have been solved very easily. But it is absolutely right when Poland and Romania wanted to defend their legal, internationally recognized territory from occupation by a totalitarian regim. And that was indeed an occupation, as one annexes by a treaty between the two sides, or by some international agreement, not by military force. That did not contradict at all the right of the Ukrainians of Galicia to demand that they leave in a Ukrainian, not Polish state. As I said, an independent Ukraine and Poland could have done that peacefully. Proof? They are frieds now! Similar with Romania. :Dc76\talk 22:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Err, not really.  Annexations are often (usually?) forceful, and does imply without free concent.  Ceed is probably the term you'd use for a peaceful, negiotiated change in control of territory.  Occupied implies that although the Soviets controlled the area, they didn't claim it or anything, which is transparently false.  The Treaty of 1818 was ceeding, not annexation.  The Partitions of Polands were annexations.  West Germany was occupied by France, Britain and the United States.  That's just the meaning of the words.  WilyD 22:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about misspelling your name. I understand from what you say: it could be both annexation and occupation, or just one of them. (annexation alone would be when it was not taken by forcce, but say, transfered from another state). How about useing both terms? :Dc76\talk 22:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  occupation/annexion 

message: Hello ! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 21:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin Europe 

message: (For those who aren't privy to the debate, I'm discussing  this map.) Let's assume, absurdly, that there is a difference between Romanians and Moldovans - some stuff about the census, whatever. OK. In no way does that mandate its outright removal. We can a) edit the colours on the map b) edit the map legend to read "Romanians/Moldovans" or c) edit the map caption to read "Ukrainians, Romanians/Moldovans, Russians, and Jewish". Biruitorul (talk) 00:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed a map closer to reality on this very discussion page. This map is 3 days older that the map formerly present in the article. It seems someone just edited the Moldovans out. Despicable.Xasha (talk) 01:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, never mind the feigned outrage - the two groups one and the same, after all. Biruitorul (talk) 16:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The map was an accurate representation of the census in 2001. The current map imposed by Xshosha because of his anti-Romanian bias was actually a rough representation of the ethnic composition in 1979. Hmm... maybe someone should say 'outdated'?  Dapiks (talk) 17:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnic map

message: OK, Biruitorul, Livepuissa, can you two provide an reasonable explanation why you included this article into category named "Romanian communities in Ukraine"? Article states that 75% of population of this oblast are ethnic Ukrainians, so how exactly it could be described as "Romanian community"? Perhaps you do not speak English well, but term "Romanian community" in English could refer either to localities with Romanian ethnic majority either to "ethnic communities of Romanians" in certain localities. In the second case, category "Romanian communities" could be used for some article named "Romanians in Chernivtsi Oblast", but Chernivtsi Oblast itself is an ethnic Ukrainian community, not Romanian one, and readers of this article would be misguided by such wrong categorization. PANONIAN 20:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanian communities in Ukraine

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