Talk:Lounge music

message: The bulk of this article should be transposed into pop music.
This article truly misses the point: the vocal material the author sees as lounge is really what was middle aged folks' vocal pop.
The lounge material was really just instrumental music, and was called such in the period or was called "exotica."
Apparently, the authors have confused the word lounge singer, a term for pop singers, for a general subgenre, lounge. User:Dogru144 15:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Definitions

message: several categories, such as camp, Capitol Records, kitch were remover.
They are now being restored.
Whether they are red and appear as non-existence is an error of the wikipedia cross referencing system.
If you doubt that there is an article on Capitol Records, which was the US distributor of artists such as Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole or the Beatles, go search in wikipedia for Capitol Records.
Dogru144 23 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed the categories, but I don't quite understand why you've restored them. I think there may be some misunderstanding about what categories are for and how they are used. You mentioned that they show up as non-existent pages because of a Wikipedia error, but I have searched through Wikipedia's list of categories and they definitely do not exist.
:Also, I'm certain that there is an article on Capitol Records, but if you feel that such an article is relevant then add a link to it in a "See also" section, or better yet, work it into the main text. Adding :Category:Capitol Records to this article will merely point to a list of all pages marked with the category (of which there are none), not to the Capitol Records article itself. For more info see WP:Categorization. Binary 20:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Restoration of actually existing Categories / error in wikipedia cross-reference capabilities

message: The above poster has questioned the propriety of including Capitol Records as a category.
In the 1940s to 1970s certain labels were profoundly fundamental to and  synonymous with certain genres of musice.
Note, for example the difference between the styles of Motown artists and Atlantic or Volt artists.  The Motown label fashioned artists to play to a broader (including white audience).  It is a consensus among music journalists and record afficianadoes that the Atlantic and Volt labels had a reputation for more edgy, more gritty sounds and presentations.  (On similar note, for a while in the late 1990s and early 2000s Interscope was strongly identified with gangsta rap.)
None of this is meant to cast aspersions on particular sub-genres.  It is merely a fact that certain artists had certain sounds, and that labels often specialized in getting these artists under their rooves, so to speak.
Liberty, quintessentially, and Capitol Records played such as a role as being full of performers that were classic to the styles now recognized as "lounge".  
Again, refer to the labels of the artists in this article (Sinatra, Cole, Gleason, Shearing, [Peggy] Lee, etc) and note the Capitol connection. Dogru144 15:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Central relevance of categories to lounge record

message: Before you allege that categories do not exist,
click in the long box on the left side of the screen and enter the words such as kitsch or Capitol.  These categories do exist.  It is a fault of wikipedia that the category references appear in red at the bottom.  Do not rely on clicking on the red words at the bottom.  Wikipedia's links are not working properly. Dogru144 15:07,  24 July 2006 (UTC)
:Please see your talk page. Binary 22:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Emphasis on need to search categories properly / Comment on wikipedia errors in category linkage

message: OK, I read your message again.  I see that you acknowledge that an article exists.
However, I have encountered a very broad range of instances of categories, many of them far less serious than others.
Please explain the criteria for classification as a category and not as an article.
I have sometimes entered categories.  Initially they appear as red; however, in a few days, they appear blue.
===Links/ References===
Quite objectionable are the links at the bottom.
Hardly any of them relate to the 50s/60s lounge subgenre.
They relate to 90s/00s chill and electronica genres. User:Dogru144 15:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia policy re categories

message: Quite objectionable are the links at the bottom.
Hardly any of them relate to the 50s/60s lounge subgenre.
They relate to 90s/00s chill and electronica genres. User:Dogru144 15:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links/ References

message: "Lounge music" is simply a pejorative term, invented by Rock fans, to make jazz and traditional American pop music performers appear to be inferior. The logic being, that performing in a lounge denotes the lack of talent to be able to perform in a larger venue. Nevermind, that the majority of "lounge" performers, have more formal musical training than most Rock musicians. 
Prior to the rock movement, virtually every known musical performer would be considered a "lounge" act, by today's common standard.
Users of this term, are largely ignorant of music appreciation and history.Eelb53 (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Much ado about nothing 

message: This article covers two different musics called "lounge" -- the exotica and space-age pop of the 50s and 60s, and the lounge/swing music of the 30s and 40s. Problem is, the article does a poor job of differentiating and separating the two. The "Resurgence" section is especially bad, conflating the lounge revival of the early 90s with the swing revival of the late 90s and early 2000s. One minute it's talking about the lounge revival, then the next sentence says, "In the 2000s Richard Cheese and Lounge Against the Machine has added to this resurgence by covering (usually profane) hit songs of other genres (primarily metal and hip hop) in the style of a lounge singer." No, actually it didn't add to the lounge resurgence -- it was part of a different revival, the swing revival. Someone should clean this up. skylights (talk) 23:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing article 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I just deleted the "Ultra Lounge" section.  It was talking about venues, not music, and the two sources it cited were travel guides to Las Vegas.  Completely irrelevant in an article that is nominally about music.  WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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