Talk:Sasha Vujačić

message: I suggest this page be moved immediately to an already existing pipe to the article, Sasha Vujačič. To those less familiar, the final letter is different. The ending "-ić" is only applicable to Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian (including Montenegrin), and some variations of Macedonian, but to no other language. Slovene does not contain that letter and his name in Slovene is given as Vujačič. Apart from the fact that there is no mention of Sasha originating from outside Slovenia within these "-ić" regions, Slovenian generally accepts spellings deriving from other languages in Latinic forms which is why Ljubljana mayor Zoran Janković has his name spelt as such: he was born in present-day Serbia and is half-Serb, half-Slovene. With our subject presented as Sasha Vujačič in Slovene, it remains totally erroneous and irrelevant to keep his name baring a Croatian/Serbian spelling. Evlekis 13:25, March 26, 2009 Blocked sock:Evlekis.
:Sorry, I had to revert your cut-and-paste move. I was in the process of fixing it and I notice that you already moved it once before about 18 months ago. Do you have any Slovenian sources that show the diacritics are as you noted? Thanks. howcheng  {chat} 04:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Did I??? I don't honestly remember. I have cut and paste things in the past, and I realise it is not the correct procedure (for which I apologise) but I didn't think it was this particular page. My worry was that as nobody responded to me between March 26, 2009 and now, I thought nobody was interested. If we begin with Wikipedia, you can see how the writing stands on the Slovenian alphabet page. Naturally there are exceptions such as Zoran Janković (Ljubljana mayor) who is of Serbian descent on his father's side. But on principle, if you take a list of Slovenes whose surnames end in (-ic), you'll find that it is invariably the /č/, the exceptions are when there is a Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian background. But it is a very easy mistake to make, particularly if one is familiar with the wider region of the former Yugoslavia; just today, I made an embarrassing howler regarding the Slovakian president's surname: . <--This rather is where I corrected it, it had been the previous edit where I made the mistake. The surname in question is indeed of Croatian origin (as is his father) and would be spelt as I wrote it if in Croatia, but Slovak, like Slovene, does not contain the /ć/. Normally, something this simple would not be the subject of debate because locals wouldn't challenge it (ie. everyone knows their own writing system). I believe that the erroneous transfer was made by Laughing Man quite some time back. He is a positive editor but on this issue, he like many others was unaware. Would you like me to provide more positive sources or are you happy to take my word for everything? Evlekis (talk) 11:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, all I'm asking for is some (online preferably) reference in Slovenian that shows his name ending in /č/. Thanks. howcheng  {chat} 16:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I look at the article more closely, it turns out his father is Serbian, so perhaps /ć/ is really correct after all. howcheng  {chat}
 05:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So he is half Serbian! How did I miss that when it was both on display and sourced the whole time! I had the feeling that this may have been the case. It's not like the editors who started the article to get names wrong in the first place. But either way - not that it matters now - his article in Slovene is given as /ič/, and an external source to confirm this is here: . To that end, I suppose we could give this variation on the article in parentheses, along with the spelling in Serbian Cyrillic which normally fits the bill when an individual is of Serbian descent. I'm glad we got this out of the way. Evlekis (talk) 22:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Allthough his biological father is of Serbian descent Vujacic regulary uses Vujačič with /č/ on his official web site: vujacic.net (http://www.vujacic.net/international/rojen-na-dan-zena/ or http://www.vujacic.net/2009/04/15/a-gift-from-maribor/). It might be something to do with the fact that his father left when he was 6, but I personally wont move the article. I just felt to mention this.Ratipok (talk) 16:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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