Talk:Imaginary number

message: A recent edit by  was reverted by . The disagreement is over whether a well known ancient mathematician is called "Hero" or "Heron". I have come disputes over this before, so I thought it might help to clarify the situation. The man's name was Ἥρων, which transliterated into the Latin alphabet is "Heron". However, as with many other ancient Greek names, it is a long established custom in English to used the form of the name which the ancient Romans used, which is not always a literal transliteration of the Greek. In this case the Latin form of the name was "Hero", and that is the form of the name which has been usual in English for many centuries. An exactly parallel name is Πλάτων, which transliterates as "Platon", but the person in question is universally known in English as "Plato". In recent times some authors have used the form "Heron", and that is the form of the name that I encountered when I was young, and therefore the name under which I normally think of the mathematician in question.
When I started writing this, my intention was merely to explain why there are two different forms of the name in use, for the purpose of clarifying the issue when two or more editors disagree, and stop there. However, it then occurred to me that it might be interesting to see which form of the name is more commonly used in English: is it still "Hero", or has "Heron" now taken over? I found that a Google search for -Hero "Heron of Alexandria" produced about 71,000 hits, and -Heron "Hero of Alexandria" 235,000. I am, of course, aware that for various reasons a Google search is not a totally reliable measure of frequency of use, but in this case the result gives so very substantial majority to "Hero", the traditional form in English, that unless and until someone produces more reliable evidence that "Heron" is now the more common, we should prefer "Hero". In addition, the Wikipedia article about him uses "Hero", and there is an advantage in consistency. My own natural preference is for "Heron", since, as I explained above, that is the form which comes more naturally to me, but in light of what I have just said I shall restore the form "Hero" in the article. JBW (talk) Formerly known as JamesBWatson 19:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hero/Heron of Alexandria 

message: Would this article be improved if a section were added titled, Use of Imaginary Numbers, that mentioned their use in quantum mechanics, electric circuits, calculus,  quadratic planes, and the like? Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host  (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggesting a section titled: Use of Imaginary Numbers 

message: What is the difference between imaginary number and imaginary unit? of Wikipedia The name of another article is imaginary unit. Aren't these two articles about the same thing? The most logical thing to do is to merge the articles (or delete one of them). Bera678 (talk) 16:56, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You're talking about the articles Imaginary number and Imaginary unit? The latter is about i, while the former is about all numbers of the form b i, where b is real. I agree that there is a lot of overlap. Does anyone else want to chime in on whether merging is warranted? Mgnbar (talk) 17:04, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Imaginary number refers to a one-dimensional space in the complex plane or elsewhere. A particular imaginary number is the imaginary unit which serves as a basis for the 1D space. The existence of an imaginary unit was something mysterious until the invention of linear algebra and matrix multiplication. See the Wikibook chapter b:Abstract Algebra/2x2 real matrices for representation of imaginary units.  The possible pairs i and −i are found at the opposite ends of a diameter of a hyperbola. — Rgdboer (talk) 00:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Some care would need to be taken but, yes, I think these articles should be merged.  —Quantling (talk | contribs) 21:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think these two articles are about different topics (imaginary unit being about the specific value ); however, I fail to see the difference between imaginary number and complex number. I propose a merge into the latter. Dan • ✉ 23:04, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Imaginary numbers are those complex numbers with vanishing real part. Depending on context, an "imaginary number" might be interpreted as a bivector, a quantity with the dimension/orientation of a plane and some magnitude, or as the composition of scaling with a quarter-turn rotation. In log space (i.e. a quantity to be exponentiated) an imaginary number might represent an oriented angle measure. And there are various other interpretations from there (e.g. in signal processing, electrical engineering, quantum mechanics, ...). Imaginary numbers are a type of complex number, and many of the things we might say about them are duplicative, but this kind of situation arises commonly in the encyclopedia, and in my opinion these should be separate articles. –jacobolus (t) 23:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Adding a hatnote maybe can helpful? Bera678 (talk) 13:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would you want to add a hatnote? What would you say in the hatnote?—Anita5192 (talk) 15:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

text: There are actually several past discussions on this topic in the imaginary unit's old discussion archives. Bera678 (talk) 16:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same Articles