Talk:Canary Islands

message: Hello I want to put an image of the dunes of the Medano, Tenerife, thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tenerifecanarias (talk • contribs) 13:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Medano

message: Hello I would like that the equipment of Wikipedia was leaving me to add the Independence of Canaries because since Canaries it was a territory conquered by the Castilians. 
 Many graces Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tenerifecanarias (talk • contribs) 17:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Independence of Canaries

message: I would like to add also that instead of putting the stadium of Las Palmas should put that of the Tenerife, which was the first stadium created in seven islands.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tenerifecanarias (talk • contribs) 10:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sports

message: Under the "Religion" heading what does the following mean? 
"The appearance of the Virgin of Candelaria in Tenerife phase starts in the Canary Islands to Christianity." 
It is absolute nonsense to me. Tiddy (talk) 08:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not just to you ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.18.129 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: In the sports section the only thing that appears is that a guy played baseball. In Spain nobody is interested in baseball so I would take it off and write somthing about Tenerife or Las Palmas Futbol Club. Is there anyone who doesn't agree?? ( don't think so)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.232.73.213 (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Completely irrelevant

message: Of minor (but still worthy) note is that Morocco claims the Canaries, in the same vein as its claim to Ceuta and Melilla.  This information was removed earlier without comment, and I am restoring it. - Gilgamesh 10:59, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No mention of this is in the article. On what do the Morrocans base their claim? Bastie 23:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: On NOTHING. Morocco does NOT claim the Canary Islands. Anyway, this claim would be arbitrary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.123.119.6 (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Claimed by Morocco

message: Someone want to add something here about the 18th century colonists recruited by the Spanish government for San Antonio and Louisiana, in the U.S.? I can write something from the Louisiana perspective, when I get time. --Michael K. Smith 19:38, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Louisiana & Texas

message: I didn't get a chance to read the entire page, but I've noticed a lot of errors (fixed one or two) in the history section.. added cleanup boilerplate text.  Looks like the page was translated from a different language using a poor computer translation service.
I tried to clean up the english on this article, but it still needs some work. The organization in this article is lacking as well. Chelsea99 03:22, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor English 

message: A "trick question" I've come across from time to time is:  "What animal are the Canary Islands named after?"  The correct answer is supposed to be "dog" (from the Latin "Canis"), not the yellow bird.  However, this article says:  "The name comes from the Berber Canarii tribe, from the Atlas ( Morocco ) who occupied the island of Gran Canaria."  This is the first I've heard about this (I've heard the dog explanation before, though, outside the quiz), can this be verified, and that "no dogs were used in the naming of this archipelago"? --Canuckguy 00:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The classical explanation it's about dog/canis, but recently a new explanation has appeared in pro-independence & pan-maghreb group activist. They said that canarii comes from a berber tribe, but it hasn't be demostrated. Old chronicles said that in Gran Canarias, at time of the conquest, there were big dogs, probably parents from actual Perro de presa canario, so the berber tale is not much credibly, only a tale for morroco romantics. Felipealvarez 23:38, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: No se hablar inglés, así que rogaría que alguien tradujese este comentario para que otros wikipedistas lo puedan entender.
Si bien durante muchos años se defendió la teoría de que el nombre de Canarias hacía referencia a los perros (ya que esta misma explicación era la que aparecía en el texto de Plinio el Viejo), hoy en día hay otras teorías al respecto y que ofrecen una explicación  distinta. En el norte de África existe el etnónimo Canarii, nombre de tribu bereber (los antiguos habitantes del archipiélago canario eran bereberes), y es probable que una parte de los habitantes de la isla que hoy se conoce como Gran Canaria procedieran de dicho grupo poblacional.  Para más información consulten la wikipedia en español: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarias. 
Saludos.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.59.99.109 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 26 January 2006
:Translation: "Although for many years the prevailing theory was that the name of the Canaries referred to the dogs that inhabited the islands (since this explanation appears in the text of Pliny the elder), today there are other theories about the matter that offer different explanation. In Northern Africa, there exists the ethnonym Canarii, the name of a Berber tribe (the ancient inhabitants of the archipelago were Berbers), and it is probable that some of the inhabitants of the island known today as Grand Canary were descendants of this tribe. For more information, consult the spanish Wikipedia's article about the Canaries." (end of translation)
:This really needs to be supported by some more evidence. 1.) We need a credible source that this Canarii tribe ever existed, and 2.) We need a credible source that they inhabited Grand Canary, and 3.) We need a credible source that the name did not independently develop along the canus-canary route. ThePedanticPrick 18:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia articles frequently link to their equivalents in other languages. ThePedanticPrick 18:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ¿dogs? 

message: Simple questions what is the primary, as well as secondary religions of the islands? 
Additionally degree of english spoken and overall safety.
Also, the dominant ethnic, make up of the islands.
Thanks,
Lane
:Most of the Canarian population is white and either Catholic or non-religious. There is also a small but growing Muslim minority made up of African inmigrants. Inmigrants of Latin American origin can also be found.
:Although English is taught throughout the primary and secondary education, not many are fluent in this language. However, those who work in the tourist industry usually know English.
:Overall safety? This is difficult to quantify. The Canary Islands are definitely safer (and much wealthier) than any other African region, and in fact safer (and wealthier) than some Western European regions.
:Virso
::There's also a vibrant jewish community in Gran Canaria, with their own beit knesset. There're also a few jewish families in Tenerife but as far as I know, they do not have an organised kehila.
::--161.111.222.191 (talk) 14:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion/ Primary language of the Islands 

message: At the end of the article say Provinces of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and Santa Cruz de Tenerife; that is a mistake, the first province is called only "Las Palmas"; but, it's impossible of to correct.
-Fco —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.124.134.152 (talk • contribs) 
:I have amended the template to list and link to Las Palmas (province) and Santa Cruz de Tenerife (province). Well spotted! Regards, E  Asterion u talking to me? 17:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is wrong. It should read "Las Palmas Province". Las Palmas de Gran Canaria is just the capital city.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.111.222.191 (talk) 14:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Provinces

message: I think it should be made clear that, despite the fact that other minor islands exist, the archipielago consists of only 7 major islands. Therefore, in my humble opinion, La Graciosa should be considered separately in the Physical Geography section.
Perhaps a new section regarding these minor islands should be created separately. The minor islands are:
- La Graciosa (the only one among these minor islands which is inhabited).
- Alegranza
- Montaña Clara
- Roque del Este
- Roque del Oeste
- Lobos Island (near Fuerteventura)
- Several other "roques" (rocks, small "islands") of less importance (for example, the Anaga Rocks in Tenerife).
The first 5 in the list form what is known as Archipielago Chinijo ("chinijo" is a local word meaning "small") and belong to the council of Teguise in the nearest island, Lanzarote (province of Las Palmas). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Walkingintolight (talk • contribs) 14:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  La Graciosa 

message: Should we remove the coordinates from the first sentence of the article and put them on the right side like on other WP articles that have coordinates?  I would do it, but I don't know how to. LinguistAtLarge 14:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: There is nothing of substance about the geology, which is a pity. I remember that the archipelago can be divided into an entirely volcanic W part and the 2 major E islands which is volcanic superstructure sitting on a piece of continental socket. Might have some sources lying around, but I can't find them at short notice. Any takers? Dysmorodrepanis 18:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In one of its catastrophe shows The History Channel predicts that at some point the side of one of the mountains of one of the Islands -mostly likely La Palma - will collapse and create a 150  to 400 foot high wave that will inundate most of the Atlantic coasts. Searching "La Palma catastrophe" I got a few leads. Lots more can be found with other terms: UK History museum, selfpublished, news story, Tsunami alarm system. In case someone wants to work on it. CarolMooreDC (talk) 20:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

text: This is certainly worth investigating.  If the people suggesting this are more than a random assortment of crackpots, the fact is surely worth adding to the article. JustinBlank (talk) 05:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Geology

message: I posted a proposal you might like at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Berbers. Chris 09:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal

message: There are too many Spaniards in this pot.  I will try and edit the English, but it needs to be left alone by non-native speakers.  This article is poorly worded and certainly doesn't keep a NPOV, for example, "This vain attempt by the English."  Sheesh.
Wuapinmon 04:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no need to be disrespectful towards other users. Feel free to contribute as anyone else, though. Regards, --Asteriontalk 10:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

text: That is just normal that there are Spaniards in an entry regarding a spanish region. Feel free to correct as many mistakes as you wish, but just be respectful.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.111.222.191 (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad English

message: The ISO 3166-2 code for the Canary Islands is wrong -- it is now listed as CN, which is for the People's Republic of China. I am however unable to find a proper replacement code. 
Martijn819 (talk) 03:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It probably uses Spain's. I should have looked into it before, as it stroke me as quite odd. Asteriontalk 09:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It uses ES-CN indeed. --Asteriontalk 10:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ISO Code wrong

message: There is no first or second capital in the Canary Islands. The fact that one needs to be listed before the other has nothing to do with the city order. Fact is: both cities are the official capital of the Canary Islands, and if you, as a citizen of Tenerife, don't like it, I suggest you contact the cabildo authorities. Both Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and Santa Cruz de Tenerife share the title of "capital city" and we, as Canarians, should be respectful with each other and avoid empty arguments that only promote jealousy and bad behaviour with our own brothers and neighbours.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.111.222.191 (talk) 14:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Santa Cruz de Tenerife is the first capital 

message: Do they use the Euro here? please add. (as per this article: Madeira_Islands)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesedwardsmith (talk • contribs) 01:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Euro is the official currency in many countries of the EU, Spain is one of them. Canary Islands belong to Spain, and they use Euro as their currency.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.242.47 (talk) 00:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

text: As far as I can see, in that section, as elsewhere, the commas are thousands separators, not decimal points.  I'm not aware of the usage "765.432,1" which you describe.  --David Biddulph (talk) 21:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmmm. I must have read population or distance measurements; sorry about that. I'll proceed with Template:Currency. I find using 40,923 and million together, confusing. I will assume this means 40,923,000; three 0s and a comma display fewer characters than the word 'million'. I'll leave someone else to apply whatever regional format they'd like. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 07:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  No. They mean 40 923 million.  The GDP per capita is 19 thousand euros, not 19 euros.  Because people can be confused I prefer not to use a comma as a thousands separator, and use a space where necessary. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Then when written for NA, it would inply 40,923,000,000 (Forty-billion, nine-hundred twenty-three million). Why don't we just write it as "40.923 billion" if that's what we mean, rather than "40,923" million? If you prefer it commaless, then a simple correction to the template was all that was necessary, not a blanket revert. I have reapplied the template, now formatted with thin spaces rather than commas, as you recommend. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Billion is another classic way to confuse people, depending on which side of the Atlantic they are.  I'm happy with the way you've formatted that section of the article now. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency 

message: Tenerife is the island with more population of Canaries and of Spain, look at it in the page in Spanish: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achineche
He says: Tenerife, with 865.070 inhabitants, is the island most filled with Canaries and with Spain. [5]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.152.178.189 (talk) 00:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenerife is the island with more population of Canaries and of Spain 

message: There is no first or second capital in the Canary Islands. The fact that one needs to be listed before the other has nothing to do with the city order. Fact is: both cities are the official capital of the Canary Islands, and if you, as a citizen of Tenerife, don't like it, I suggest you contact the cabildo authorities. Both Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and Santa Cruz de Tenerife share the title of "capital city" and we, as Canarians, should be respectful with each other and avoid empty arguments that only promote jealousy and bad behaviour with our own brothers and neighbours.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.111.222.191 (talk) 14:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first capital Santa Cruz de Tenerife 

message: i'd like to know whether the Canary Islands are part of Africa as not all references state this.MollaP (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It depends what your definition of "part of Africa" is. They are not on the African continental plate, so in the geographical sense they are not African. They are politically part of Spain, which is a European country, so not African in that sense. However they are closer to Africa than to Europe so if you arbitrarily assign them to the nearest continent then they are African. It's a bit like asking if an orange is a type of apple or a type of pear. Koekemakranka (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an interesting question. Parts of the article point in different directions, though none are explicit. We read "...since European discovery", "Europeans began to explore the islands", "bananas and tobacco are grown for export to Europe", "proximity to Europe" which all imply that the Canaries are not part of Europe; however, we also read that "Teide in 2010 became the most visited national park in Europe". It would be useful to get some reliable sources (rather than just editors' opinions) on this. --Isthmus of Kra (talk) 13:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

text: ...what does it even mean to be "culturally European". Doesn't seem very encyclopaedic. 2A00:23C5:1203:CE01:5839:7178:EA6D:C6C6 (talk) 01:39, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canary Islands — Part of Africa or Europe?

message: The website www.turismodecanarias.com (or redirect domain www.canarias.es) should be entered into the External Links. This is the most complete and up-to-date resource regarding tourism for the Canary Islands as a whole. The website is kept very current on events, news, press, and information regarding Canary Islands tourism. 
According to the guidelines of Wikipedia this is exactly what kind of link should go into the External Link section as it is the "Official Website".
I suggest the following for the English version of this page:
* Official Tourism Website of the Canary Islands
This official tourism website is already on the Spanish, Italian, French versions of Wikipedia. It is still needed on the English and German versions.
Heatman1 (talk) 20:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, this site is mainly an "Official Marketing Tool", not a reliable scientific source. As the site does "not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article", I see no reason to link it. W. Edlmeier (talk) 09:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official tourism website of the Canary Islands 

message: There are a very worng mistake, Spanish is not an etnic group, is the mainly language, Canarian are a diferent etnic group than spanish. Spanish etnic group is about 250.000 hab that are migrants arrived since 1950 and his sons.
I quote the article:
""despite the continuous changes suffered by the population (Spanish colonization, slave trade), aboriginal mtDNA [direct maternal] lineages constitute a considerable proportion [42 – 73%] of the Canarian gene pool. Although the Berbers are the most probable ancestors of the Guanches,"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.155.48.9 (talk) 12:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish etnic???? 

message: pls i want to know how to enter the island by road from cote d vore from abijan  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.189.52.193 (talk) 19:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  how to enter the island from cote d ivore? abijan 

message: Las Palmas was considered the capital of the Canary Islands, but without any real legal and thus was considered but never was capital for the whole of the right word, because it was only capital of the Canaries, La Laguna in Tenerife (and Yet this was for three centuries, while Las Palmas by two). But Santa Cruz de Tenerife it was with all the honors and legal and real capital of the sole and sovereign Archipelago Canario up in 1927 years with the shared Las Palmas. Greetings.
:Officially, Las Palmas is the capital. Inter-man (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Las Palmas has never been the capital of the Canary Islands only 

message: Canarians are also Spanish.
Catalans, Basques, Galicians, Castilians, Andalusians, Canarians...all of us are Spanish. 
If we talk about languages, 25% of Basques speak usually in the Basque language, 50% of Catalans speak usually in Catalan language and 55% of Galicians speak usually in Galician language....but a Canarian language doesn´t exist (apart from the wishtle language in the Gomera island, which I don´t think will ever be adopted as a national languge in the Canary islands instead of Spanish)--81.36.210.254 (talk) 03:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  False ethnic groups 

message: Hello, I was wondering if the Canary Islands are members of the EU and use the Euros? As they are a Spanish, occupied land?
Thank you
(TheGreenwalker (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The European Union and the Euros 

message: I entirely removed the "pre-spanish" section which was completely inacurate (the least I can say).
From January to December 2009, we could learn that there were in Canaria a "A true, small Mediterranean" group, a "berber type", and even a "Crô-Magnon type; with a low, rectangular face, especially characterized by bigonial prominence".
No need to write much, just check by yourself:
*The original edit
*All the editions made by this "contributor"
*The reference for what was written
This edit was partially altered by subsequent modifications, but curiously nobody had ever completely removed this piece of shit (12 months!).
--Syrmonsieur (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove: Racist section (so big that it could be funny) 

message: Please watch this article, an anonymous user is deleting the sentence, the Virgin of Candelaria is the patron of the Canary Islands and is changing for the Virgin of Candelaria is the patron saint of the Diocese Nivariense. Here I put data of the patron of the islands: Patrona del archipiélago Canario Sitio web de las Siervas de los Corazones Traspasados de Jesús y María.,Pregón de las fiestas de la Virgen del Pino de 2004 a cargo de Juan Artiles Sánchez, Vicario de la Diócesis Canariense,Noticias breves en el sitio web de la Conferencia Episcopal Española,Historia ampliada del municipio de Candelaria en el sitio web del Gobierno de Canarias,Nota de prensa de Bernardo Álvarez Afonso, Obispo de la Sede Episcopal de San Cristóbal de La Laguna 
You is putting that Roque Nublo is the symbol of the islands, where only what is in Gran Canaria.--79.146.255.252 (talk) 22:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Member (Oflo84) is adding false information please beware. --BeneharoMencey (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 2 

message: I've not the time or energy to sift these and integrate into the article. Hopefully someone familiar with the subject can give this the time it needs.
My friend just mailed me these text. I'm not great at linking, I am a actually a very poor editor.:) Thank you, and my friend, Laszlo Kanari will be thanksful I think. But he takes this name-thing personally...Thank you again, Zoltan
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:0JF3e7fj70YJ:www.eyeoneurope.org/factoids/canary.htm+canary+islands+dog+god&cd=3&hl=hu&ct=clnk&gl=hu
Long ago sailors named the islands from a Latin word canis (dog) because of large, fierce dogs found on the islands.
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/rocklake4.html
The greatest link we have between the  Guanches and the Egyptians comes in the form of pyramids - the Guanches built several small step pyramids on the islands, using exactly the same model as those found in ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia. The pyramids have an east-west alignment.
Generally dolichocephalic, fair-featured with blond or red-hair, with males over six foot tall and women approaching six feet in height. 
Women were very beautiful and Spanish Gentlemen often used to take their wives among the population.
http://www.gobiernodecanarias.org/educacion/9/Usr/ibcandelaria/depart/ing/30may.htm
About 2,000 years ago a boy called Juba became King of Mauritania in North Africa. At that time, Mauritania was part of the Roman Empire, so Juba went to school in Rome. There he learnt about exploring and map-making, about
strange countries far away over the seas.
When Juba became king, he sent a group of explorers out into the Atlantic Ocean. They came back with stories of a mountainous island covered in trees and strange plants and they gave Juba two puppies that they found in the island and told him there were many, dogs on the island. Juba was very happy with his strong and intelligent dogs and when he marked the island on his map he called it the "Island of Dogs". He wrote the name on his map in Latin,"canes". 
That is how the islands became known as the Canary Islands.
Today we can see that on the coat of arms of the city there are two dogs
http://www.whattenerife.com/canary-island-history.html
The author Pliny the Elder (1st century, A.D.) tells of a Carthaginian expedition to the Canary Islands sent by King Juba. They returned with giant dogs, from which the the archipelago derives its name; "can" or "canes" means "dog" in latin, and when the Carthaginians put a name to the islands, they called them the "Insularia Canaria" (Islands of the Dogs). Backing up the story, the islands still have native dogs today that are thought to be the very dogs to which Pliny referred centuries and centuries ago.
http://www.dirjournal.com/info/most-dangerous-dogs-in-the-world/
Presa Canario
Origin:Canary Islands, Africa
Weight: 100-125 lbs
Height: 25-26 inches
The Presa Canario hails from the Canary Islands, where the dogs were trained for hunting and for war. During the 18th century, English traders and merchants came to the Canary Islands, bringing with them their working and gladiator dogs, notably the Mastiff of England and the Bulldog. Englishmen also brought with them their traditions of pit fighting for which their breeds and the island dogs were inevitably mixed and eventually bred to produce the ultimate fighter. Nowadays the breed is used for guarding and the handling and driving of cattle.
The dogs of this breed can be gentle and noble with their families, showing great affection to their owners, and being suspicious of strangers.
http://images.google.hu/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mummytombs.com/news/peru.dog.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mummytombs.com/news/news.2006.september.htm&usg=__LaRQRBygsnPvPaW8cF4SVPN_MHU=&h=233&w=197&sz=7&hl=hu&start=15&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=K8pUlhv3aVYM_M:&tbnh=109&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcanary%2Bislands%2Bdog%2Bmummy%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dhu%26tbs%3Disch:1
Egyptologists meet in La Laguna to discuss intriguing question: Are the Canary Islands' Guanche mummies related to mummies of Ancient Egypt? (tenerifenews.com) 
"...though he discounted any direct linkage between the aboriginal inhabitants of the Canary Islands and the ancient Egyptians, a theory based on their love of mummifying their dead and which has gained ground in recent years, the professor [Antonio Tejera Gaspar] admitted that an indirect relationship was possible. 'There is no doubt about the north African origins of the inhabitants of these islands,' he said and went on to explain that it is generally accepted they were descended from Libyan Berbers who themselves probably originated west of the Nile. They began to settle in the Canaries in around the first century AD. Moving on to the vexed question of whether Guanche mummification owes anything – or everything – to Egypt, Professor Tejera said: 'It is very probable the old system of mummification so characteristic of Tenerife and Gran Canaria could have derived from ancient knowledge. These people did after all come from Africa. Some of the Berber tribes were relatively close to Egypt and many communities, say in the second or third millennium, were in contact with the Egyptians. So it would not be straining credibility too far to say that the practice could have some link with them, but not a direct one. ' "
 
MUMMY TOMBS COMMENT: 
Some Egyptologists will continue working on the possible relationship between Guanche mummies and Egyptian mummies for some time to come. At the same time,  a group of pyramids in Güímar on the island of Tenerife has also raised intriguing possible connections between ancient Egyptians and the early settlers of the Canaries. Not all are convinced of the age of the Güímar pyramids, however, including Professor Tejera (see above article). Yet famed researcher Thor Heyerdahl has studied the pyramids. Though he discovered many things about them, he was unable to date them.
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091021115147.htm
The First Men And Women From The Canary Islands Were Berbers
First Inhabitants Of Canary Islands Were Berbers, Genetic Analysis Reveals
ScienceDaily (Oct. 26, 2009) — A team of Spanish and Portuguese researchers has carried out molecular genetic analysis of the Y chromosome (transmitted only by males) of the aboriginal population of the Canary Islands to determine their origin and the extent to which they have survived in the current population. The results suggest a North African origin for these paternal lineages which, unlike maternal lineages, have declined to the point of being practically replaced today by European lineages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoltan bereczki (talk • contribs) 17:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  an assortment of links from my talk 

message: The first map shown of the Canaries has the actual islands hidden away in the bottom left hand side. You'd hardly notice them if you didn't know what you were looking for. Look at the thumbnail:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Mapa_territorios_Espa%C3%B1a_Canarias.svg/250px-Mapa_territorios_Espa%C3%B1a_Canarias.svg.png
A map with the island more clearly marked, and more centralised, would be more useful.
Much noise (talk) 22:23, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first map of the Canaries is confusing/misleading 

message: That is my opinion. There are some things I think should be done.
1.- The major Canary Islands are seven. La Graciosa and the Chinijo archìpielago may be cited later, but not in the leading, and not certainly talking about Montaña Clara as if it were as important as Lanzarote, when it is a small rock in the middle of the Ocean.
2.- Maybe there are too many stadistics in the leading. Every three words there is a "The second most" "the biggest" etc... I do not think that is necessary, it distracts of the article, and it is not very readable.
3.- The guanches were the natives of Tenerife Island. It is not right to use this name as a generic one for all the ancient populations of the different islands.
4.- The ethimology section is a mess. I am going to rework it completely with other theries I have found and I can cite. Hint: Holy dogs are not going to have a place.
5.- The provinces in the Canary Islands are, like it or not, Santa Cruz de Tenerife and Las Palmas. The name it is not Las Palmas de Gran Canaria. There are several instances in the article where both names are used, or first one and afterwards the second as an explanation. 
I think this at least should be done. I will wait a bit to see some more opinions, but this article really should be better than this.
Leirus (talk) 09:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is not very good. 

message: The Agaete port is not an international port, the only international port of Gran Canaria is the port of Las Palmas. Therefore should not appear in "ports", as it refers only to international ports.--83.49.250.211 (talk) 12:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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message: The line from the etymology section of the article states:
:It is speculated that the so called dogs were actually a species of Monk Seals ("sea dog" in Latin), critically endangered and no longer present in the Canary Islands.[17] 
This seems to be intended to give the impression that reference 17 ( http://www.endangeredspecieshandbook.org/persecution_seals.php ) supports this speculation, but it does nothing of the sort. The reference is merely the source for the observation that the monk seal is extinct in the Canaries. There is no source given for the claim, and we are not told who offers this speculation.
Giving the etymology of Insula Canaria as being based on monk seals may seem plausible if you think the Romans had never before seen seals. But in fact monk seals occur in the Mediterranean (they are critically endangered now, but were common then), the Romans were well aware of them, and -- contrary to our article -- they did not call them "sea dogs". They did sometimes poetically call them "sea cows" (monk seals are very large!), but they already had a perfectly good name for them: phoca. If monk seals had really been the origin of the name, it would have been Insula Phocaria !!
What is even stranger is that we complete omit Pliny's perfectly plausible etymology. In Natural History, Book IV, ch. 37 he writes:
:The one next to it is Canaria; it contains vast multitudes of dogs of very large size, two of which were brought home to Juba: there are some traces of buildings to be seen here. ... These islands, however, are greatly annoyed by the putrefying bodies of monsters, which are constantly thrown up by the sea.
This seems pretty clear: there were large dogs there, some were actually captured and examined closely, and incidentally they are distinct from sea creatures found on the beaches. Pliny is here quoting an author only one generation removed from himself, who had personally seen these dogs; which respected academic author had written accounts of it in a widely circulated publication; which publication Pliny carefully cited (using a method that would later inspire modern citation techniques!) The only reason to reject this perfectly straightforward and well documented explanation would be if there was a reason to doubt that dogs were found on Gran Canaria. But at least by the time the Spanish arrived, the Guanches were certainly keeping dogs -- big ones. -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 12:22, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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message: Please, note that the offical name of the Comunidad autónoma is just "Canarias", not "Islas Canarias", as it's described in the Estatuto de Autonomía and the gobernment website.--Aner77 | Talk 13:40, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
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message: Is there any special reason to include English in the info box, does this language have some form of special status? User:Subtropical-man added it to the infobox with the explanation: "English in the Canary Islands is in common use + information boards etc, similarly as Cyprus." If English being "in common use" and having information boards in English would be enough in order to add English as an extra language, then in deed we would have to add English to almost every major city and tourist destination in the world. The Canary Islands don't even provide their official web pages in English and Spain as whole is one worst in the EU when it comes to English proficiency (see: Here), I have no data uniquely for the Canaries though. Also, which language is spoken in Cyprus is a little bit irrelevant but it was in deed a part of the British Empire, and the British Forces (see: British Forces Cyprus) are still stationed there. The Canary Islands should instead be compared to other tourist destinations where English is used as some sort of tourist lingua franca e.g. Crete and Rhodes (if you're stuck in Greek-speaking islands in the eastern Mediterranean) or the Balearic Islands, if you want to stay in Spain.  Aaker (talk) 15:38, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Give an example of the "major city" where English is in common use but not an official language. No matter, it is still very non-important. Second, Cyprus I gave as an example, Cyprus has only two official languages: Greek, Turkish, but 3/4 peoples speak English. Similarly, the Canary Islands. Subtropical-man (talk) 15:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Give an example of the "major city" where English is in common use but not an official language." Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, Oslo... are examples of major cities where English is in deed used and spoken a lot. 89% of Sweden's population speak English (see: Here), still I think it would be wrong to include English in the infobox for Sweden, the same goes for several Northern European countries. Do you have any source for a especially high proficiency in the Canaries and if even if there is, why would it be relevant? English is not included in Cyprus' infobox either and, as I mentioned before, English has completely different in Cyprus, where it previously was an official language. Aaker (talk) 18:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Paris and Berlin?!?? Ridicule :D :D :D Cyprus, Sweden etc is country. Infobox of country there is no option about this, other option outside official languages. If there was an option in infobox of country that probably would have been entered. Moreover, Canary Islands is not country and not use infobox of country. Subtropical-man (talk) 19:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think  the Canary islands are at least as ridiculous as Paris or Berlin. Both cities have lots of services and activities in English, they host headquarters of multinational corporations and organisations where English is the working language, there are several universities which operate mostly or only in English, there are millions of tourists and business people using English etc. The mere fact that you can find both Paris's and Berlin's official websites in English while the Canarian one is only provided in Spanish makes your point ridiculous. Aaker (talk) 19:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "host headquarters of multinational corporations and organisations where English is the working language" - this is argument? This is nonsense. Berlin and Paris "websites in English while the Canarian one is only provided in Spanish makes your point ridiculous"? Canary Islands has two official pages: Canary Islands Government (in Spanish) and Canary Islands Official Tourist Office, with as first language of English, second Spanish . But even the language of the website it does not matter. Your arguments are absurd. What you give the next argument? Number of English subtitles on advertising billboards? :D :D :D Subtropical-man (talk) 20:36, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are the one who is arguing that English should be in the infobox because of the tourism industry which in deed is utterly absurd. In line with YOUR arguments, we could equally add English as a language of Paris or Berlin. My argument is that English should not be noted in the infobox unless there is some particular for that e.g. official status, historical minority language or so. However it should be said in the text (not in the infobox) that English (like German for that matter) is used a lot within the tourism industry. Aaker (talk) 22:11, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  English in the infobox? 

message: Many pages about locations indicate the winter and summer time differences from UTC. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 13:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
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message: This bird species is listed in the article's Wildlife section but should not be: as far as I know it is endemic to Madeira. Davercox (talk) 07:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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message: The "Demographics" section is a mess. I noticed that the percentages in the box were incorrect and tried to fix them, then I noticed that the numbers didn't add up to the totals. The numbers in the article don't correspond to the numbers in the box, and they are variously taken from 2009 and 2011, and they don't add up either. And finally the links to the original sources for those numbers are broken now.
I spent a couple of minutes searching the government website for demographic statistics, but I didn't come up with any. Anybody who wants to spend more time fixing the section is welcome to do so.
Paul Clapham (talk) 22:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: Carnival of Las Palmas is very important too. Gala Drag Queen is very famous in Spain. IT is retransmitted in TVE INTERNACIONAL. IT is seem in all the world.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.155.206.95 (talk) 11:38, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: Between the repulse of Nelson and the beginning of the 20th century there is a large gap. A reference is made to British rule, but no details are given as to when and how the British gained or lost the colony. The French acquired it somehow, right? That needs to be mentioned. As interesting as the emigration and romanticism sections are, they are no substitute for the facts of who reigned when. Rwflammang (talk) 22:53, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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message: I have 2 or 3 books which say that ancient Guanches were tall, blonde, blue-eyed and thin people. According to them, the Canarian people come from Andalusians from Spain, most of them.
Do you know anything about this ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.6.198.189 (talk) 15:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  were the Guanches blonde people ? 

message: There is no clarity about the religion practised by the islanders before the Catholics arrived. Were they Muslims? If not, the religion would be of significant interest as being an indicator of the origin of the inhabitants. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 21:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: The Canary Islands were named for the large dogs found living on the islands and has nothing to do with birds. Every known reliable encyclopedia sites this. How can you expect financial support when the information you give is so misinformed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.251.246.177 (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2014‎
:From the article: "What is certain is that the name of the islands does not derive from the canary bird; rather, the birds are named after the islands". jonkerz ♠talk 21:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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message: I recently uploaded some historic photos of Canary Island (Gran Canaria) from around the 1900s. I don't know if or where they should be placed, (perhaps some of the history or culture sub-articles?) but have a look. --Animalparty-- (talk) 03:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: The caption of the map says "Location of the Canary Islands within Spain", and then shows them in the Mediterranean. Unless someone comes up with a replacement, I'm getting rid of it. Alfie Gandon (talk) 21:36, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I really have no idea what User:TUBS was thinking with this vector map. First: the Canary Islands aren't "in" or "within" Spain (as the caption and map title suggest), they're an autonomous overseas territory. Secondly: why show a big map of Spain with a little inset showing the Islands, but not show their actual location (along the 28th parallel off NW Africa)? The original, non-vector file here at least shows the Islands with Spain, and states so in the title. 45.47.168.184 (talk) 15:40, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Autonomous overseas territory" is a misleading term. All Spanish territories are "autonomous" to an equal or greater extent than the Canary Islands. They are generally divided into provinces and in the case of the Canary Islands, they are divided in two provinces. The term "overseas territory" has ex-colonial connotations implying a "special status" which do not apply to the Balearic Islands, the Canary Islands or the Greek islands of Crete or Corfu for that matter (even though fiscal advantages are historically given to some insular territories). They are indeed within Spain, although not within the Iberian Peninsula.Asilah1981 (talk) 14:21, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  That map is useless 

message: In the statute of Autonomy of the Canary Islands, Santa Cruz de Tenerife is officially mentioned first: Statute of Autonomy of the Canary Islands. Between the 1833 territorial division of Spain and 1927 Santa Cruz de Tenerife was the sole capital of the Canary Islands, until 1927 when a decree ordered that the capital of the Canary Islands be shared, as it remains at present: Royal decret. This issue has already been solved in the article in Spanish: Orden de las capitales.--81.37.120.150 (talk) 16:05, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The capitals 

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message: The term "sea dog" is still used in some languages to mean "shark" and I know that this used to be the case in English as well, but this article states that "canis marinus" is a Latin term for seals. I searched around and nowhere is "canis marinus" said to mean anything other than sharks. The Online Etymology Dictionary confirms this under "dogfish", saying that "sea dogs" has been a term for sharks since Antiquity https://www.etymonline.com/word/dogfish and here it is from Pliny himself: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0137%3Abook%3D9%3Achapter%3D70. The History of Greenland uses the latin terms "canis marinus" alongside "canis carcharias" (karkharías is shark in Greek) in reference to a shark. The source given for the claim that the island is named after seals doesn't link to anyone making this claim, only to a dictionary of Latin that exists online http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059 and again, makes no mention of seals. I'm guessing some idiot either changed the original theory to refer to seals instead of sharks because of the "seals=sea dogs" meme, or they made up the whole thing on the spot.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.139.65.68 (talk) 08:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
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message: This article is currently the target of vandals as a result of political disagreements between Spain and the UK over Gibraltar. Perhaps this page should recieve protected status for a period of time. 86.5.213.154 (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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message: (This already produced a discussion in the article in Spanish and the user Canario88 has just been blocked by vandalism: https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canarias&action=history  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.115.132 (talk) 09:18, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No reason has been given to differ from the order given in the source cited. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:41, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitals 

message: Under the heading "Economy" there is no mention of ship repair.  Islas Canarias has extensive facilities for ship repair including dry docks.  Someone with local knowledge, please add a few sentences at least.  Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 13:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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message: Unlike with the Balearic Islands, "Islas" is not part of the official name in Spanish here. Although the expression does exist in Spanish, any mention of the Spanish term in its official form, such as in the introduction and the table, should simply be "Canarias".--2001:16B8:312B:2000:95EE:ABA0:FA0:E3B3 (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official name 

message: It's nowhere near the Americas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.18.129 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a literal translation, I've changed it. --Jotamar (talk) 22:26, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Bridge'

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message: A link to anemone goes to the flower instead of the marine sea anemone. 31.125.157.51 (talk) 18:42, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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