Talk:Escort carrier

message: If a CVE was 60 per cent of the length of a CV, did it have different planes, different procedures, different catapults and tailhooks, or what?  What compromises or alterations in practice were made for taking off and landing on these much smaller ships?  Ortolan88
:Very good questions, never thought about it before.  Hopefully somebody who knows will fill out the article, but my guess is that the shorter flight deck was still sufficient to launch and land most carrier plane types, but there was very little spare working room, so your launch/land rates weren't as good. Stan 06:12 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)
I hope so too, but the chances are slim.  Most of those who served on these carriers are now deceased, there is not a single one of those carriers left, and the glory and fame of the big carriers has eclipsed the importance of the jeep carriers.  I have the impression sometimes that the lack of celebrity has led to a neglect in the preservation and exploitation of their information resources. I found it easier to get information on LSTs (Landing Ship, Tank or Large Slow Target) than on the CVEs! AlainV 04:20, 2004 May 4 (UTC)
:I believe ship speed may also have been significant in the ability to utilize contemporary naval aircraft designs intended to operate off carriers faster than battleships.  Grumman Wildcat fighters and Fairey Swordfish bombers successfully operated off the slow CVEs; but Grumman Avenger bombers required 30 knots of wind over the deck to launch; and CVEs couldn't produce that during calm weather.Thewellman (talk) 22:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ??? Just plugging "escort carriers" into Amazon turns up at least a dozen volumes, including an "anatomy of the ship" book (none of which I have, thus my lack of details on them). Online material is probably not as good, but then I've come to rely more on books and less on the net in recent months, some comparative study has shown me there is a huge amount of published info that is simply not visible to Google, either not searched or not online. Stan 12:41, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences? 

message: Um... so who or what is "Warrilow"? func(talk) 03:03, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warrilow 

message: The stated average lengths for the fleet carrier are inconsistent.  900 feet is closer to 275 meters rather than 300 meters, which is especially notable considering the conversion from 500 feet is given as 150 meters.  Then later on the page, the table lists a fleet carrier as 260 meters.  Using specific, representative classes as examples might be better than these generic average estimates, which are hard to verify against sources. --BeeBot 16:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lengths 

message: Okay, I now am satisfied that the number 130 is correct, if you include all 19 Commencement Bay class vessels. However it involved a lot of digging and fixing typos in this and other articles to get there, so I'm happy for someone else to check my logic. In particular the List of escort aircraft carriers of the United States Navy and List_of_aircraft_carrier_classes_of_the_United_States_Navy and List of escort aircraft carriers of the Royal Navy all had flaws and could do with some tidying up. I think they are consistent now.
Basically, changes I made were:
:- I think there were only 45 Bogue class vessels, not 49. That what all the pages about the individual vessels say - 21 in the first batch {10 US, 11 RN} and 24 in the second {1 US, 23 RN}. I don't know where the other numbers came from. If you have different information then go for it ...
:- There were 19 Commencement Bay vessels TOTAL. 17 were commissioned and 2 were not commissioned but accepted by the Navy after the war and held in reserve. 4 additional ones were cancelled. It probably stetches accuracy a little to say they were all launched during the war though {Sept 1945?}.
:- The USS Charger was very briefly in RN service as HMS Charger, and had AVG-4 and CVE-30 numbering. The other three vessels were RN only.
:- So 2 Long Island + 45 Bogue + 4 Sangamon + 4 Charger + 50 Casablanca + 19 Commencement Bay + Audacity, Activity, Campania, Pretoria Castle, Nairana, Vindex gives a total of 130! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave w74 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  130 escort carriers were built 

message: Fascinating as the description of derivation of the phrase gedunk bar is, do we really think that a description of a ships ice-cream vending belongs alongside and before a description of its role!. I've added the cleanup tag. -- Chris j wood (talk) 12:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added cleanup tag 

message: For those who don't know what a "funnel" is: From Chimney: Chimneys may be found in buildings, steam locomotives and ships. In the US, the term smokestack (colloquially, stack) is also used when referring to locomotive chimneys. The term funnel is generally used for ship chimneys and sometimes used to refer to locomotive chimneys. - BillCJ (talk) 18:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Funnel

message: I added the section below but it was removed. It is consistent with the information cited in the articles refereed to. Comments please.
"The United States designed Sea Control Ship to serve a similar role, whilst non where actually built HTMS Chakri Naruebet and Italian aircraft carrier Giuseppe Garibaldi (551) and Spanish aircraft carrier Principe de Asturias where all based on the concept. The United Kingdoms Invincible class aircraft carriers is somewhat large but design to do a similar task."--Kitchen Knife (talk) 23:27, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your English spelling, grammar and punctuation are poor. The links to the ships should be piped or templated so that only their names show, in italics. Your paragraph included no references, so what articles are you referring to? Binksternet (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wikipedia articles refereed to are the references. The spelling is fine as far as I can tell and any bad spelling, grammar etc are reasons to change rather then delete.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 23:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sea Control Ship

message: What exactly does CVE stand for? CVE doesn't map directly to "escort aircraft carrier".
:The United States Navy hull classification symbol for an aircraft carrier is CV.  The C is for cruiser, since the earliest aircraft carriers were used as part of the scouting force for the battle fleet; and the V (from the French verb voler) designated fixed wing aircraft (rather than balloons, blimps and dirigibles).  The E suffix designates the escort function (similar to the contemporary DE for destroyer escort).Thewellman (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  CVE 

message: Why didn't any escort carrier become a museum ship?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs) 01:32, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no museum escort carriers?