Talk:Singularity Sky

message: The first paragraph of the plot summary is 52 lines long!! It's preferable if it gets split up by somebody who understands the novel better, but if that doesn't happen, I'll break it up by inserting 4-6 somewhat arbitrary line breaks. --Peter Knutsen (talk) 14:11, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot summary WALLOFTEXT 

message: It's made pretty clear from the scene wherein Rachel Mansour meets the New Hegemony admiral that she was born male - she's referred to as "he" for that chapter, told from the perspective of the admiral, who mentally labels her "Invert" and is generally unpleasant (it's never noted by any other character; I think the strong implication is that transphobia becomes a relic of the past).  I'm not aware of many any other mainstream science fiction novels in which the heroine is T; if a source that wasn't the original could be found to be a reference for this I think it could be worth a brief mention in the article. 7daysahead (talk) 11:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the most "WHAT?" exegesis of something in a sci-fi novel I've read on a Wikipedia talk page since this (in fact, the only one I've read since then).If this is what you got from that scene, you weren't paying even moderate attention. The admiral (from the New Republic, not Hegemony, which seems to lend credence to an assumption this misreading was the result of sloppy reading) assumes Rachel is a man because a) it's already been well-established that he's effectively senile and b) thus he assumes that Rachel, in uniform, is male because she's wearing pants and in his society, women do not wear pants, at least not in public. Any reader who would take that scene as suggesting Rachel is transgender is either relying on someone else's ill-informed reading, reading that one scene without any context, or missing about 90% of the story.It's, if anything, meant to be comical. In fact, Rachel's later recounting of her distant past (remember, she's about 150 but looks like she's in her 20s thanks to the anti-aging treatments available post-singularity) to Martin suggests she was born as female as she is at the time of the story.I suppose I wouldn't complain (this never made the article itself, thank God), but for the fact that, having just finished this good read, I came to look at our article and was appalled at the purported plot summary. All but the last two paragraphs are devoted to the backstory. I'm going to have to rewrite it. Soon. Daniel Case (talk) 17:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  That was not as easy as I had thought. Now, to the characters. Daniel Case (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transgender notability? 

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