Talk:Ennead

message: Please note, Ra was much later equated with Atum (for a period going under the title Atum-Ra). The Ennead were never associated with Ra originally. The Ennead never associated with Ra. Ennead means 9, when Ra and Atum became conflated, those who associated with Ra, as his co-journyers in his solar barque, were only 8, and were thus an Octad, not an Ennead. --Victim of signature fascism 22:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: No Ra

message: What is the "great carnal power"? I don't see how this is carnal, ie related to the body or meat. Interlingua 04:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would appear that in this context, 'carnal' is an antonym of 'spiritual', i.e. 'temporal'.  But OED calls this usage "archaic".  Also, it is not clear how the number has temporal power.  --Macrakis 14:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Carnal

message: Unless someone knows different, it should be considered that the Ennead developed(Origin) with the origin of the Hieroglyphic writing, as three "registers" of hieroglyphs get one to 3 x 3, the Ennead. There is also the 'Gods of the 18 (name ?)', a double ennead. --......from the SonoranDesert of Arizona- ..Mmcannis 03:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of "term" Ennead

message: An example of vertical registers of hieroglyphs shows the plural of "Gods" used 2-times. (from the ArizonaDeserts-on the New Year)- ...-Mmcannis 16:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Typical usage of plural gods

message: After my attempt to fix the start of this article got reverted, I thought that I'd try here. I found the article when the NY Times gave as a definition of 'ennead' as a group of nine Egyptian deities, and tried to find out why. I thought that this article might be the locus, and  wanted to let people know that that the English word 'ennead' refers more broadly than this.
So, let me make ask some questions to those who have a closer interest in this article. Why is there a capital epsilon in the Greek word? The upper case - lower case distinction is later than the word; in ancient times Greek was written only in upper case. Second, where did the 'the' come from, in "the nine"? It's not in the Greek, which would require an eta. I'll grant that 'ennead' is not a common word, but it's one that I know as a common noun.
It's a reasonable guess that you've got people thinking that the Greek word refers primarily to this group of gods. It doesn't. (Check it out in Liddell Scott Jones.) If you don't like my fix, shouldn't you come up with another?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Asman (talk • contribs) 06:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If the word is more commonly used in English to refer to something else, then yes, we should fix it. We shouldn't have an article on the word itself, because Wikipedia is not a dictionary. We should, however, cover all encyclopedic topics that that word can refer to, and should only place an article under the nonspecific title "Ennead" if it is clearly the best-known topic known by that name. If, then, "Ennead" is used to refer to Plotinus' work more often than to the group of gods, then the title "Ennead" should redirect to the article on that work, while the content of this article should be moved to a more specific title, like "Ennead (mythology)". The same is true if some other meaning is more common. Can you provide evidence that some other meaning is better-known among English speakers? A. Parrot (talk) 07:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To address the concerns of the OP - I deleted your fix because it didn't work.  The Egyptian company of gods are refered to as 'The Ennead', the works of Plotinus are 'The Enneads'.  While it is true that ennead is the Greek for nine things - to use it in this way in English would be like saying the Great Pyramid means a large wheat cake or Obelisk means a nail like object.  Obviously you are free to try another edit if you wish but it seems ok to me.Apepch7 (talk) 11:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

text: The first response pointed me to what I think is the correct action. My impression is now that people don't know that 'ennead' is a common noun ('common' in the technical sense), and look it up in Wikipedia rather than a dictionary. So I'll put in a dictionary reference near the reference to Plotinus; that should do it. I'll fix the Greek while I'm there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Asman (talk • contribs) 00:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Greek Ἐννεάς, meaning the nine"

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message: "The Internet Classics Archive | The Six Enneads by Plotinus
classics.mit.edu/Plotinus/enneads.html
The Six Enneads By Plotinus Written 250 A.C.E.. Translated by Stephen Mackenna and B. S. Page. The Six Enneads has been divided into the following ..."
 
But who's counting?
 
David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 18:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nine?