Talk:He-Man

message: and  Have raised valid concerns about the article being a mess and containing multiple sections that lack footnotes or citations. So, I took the liberty of removing anything that wasn't properly sourced and cited. Furthermore, many other sections in this article—especially regarding the "Development" and "Appearances" sections—are attributed to reference that fail to meet even the bare minimum criteria for reliability, so they'll probably have to go too. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: The edited section needs to be tidied up and reduced dramatically. It doesn't conform to wikipedias guidelines of "appropriate length" or "completely neutral or unbiased" commentary. There can absolutely be a sentence or two in the opening section of the page on He-mans impact on the queer community, but it should be general and kept in context with the larger impact of the character. There is already a subpage on the Queer interpretation and impact of the character so the bottom section of the page which speaks at length (in fact, it is just the sub-page copy/pasted back into the main article) needs to be dramatically reduced, again, to be kept in context with the broader impact of the character. There should be one or two footnoted paragraphs which refer the reader to an outline of arguments, similar to the other sections of the page under their respective subheadings. It looks like this isn't the first time this issue has come up. I will continue to edit the page until this is addressed or if not addressed here, I will open the page up to another peer review. Billdenbrough501 (talk) 00:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:DIY would also apply to trimming, though. Some articles (though not necessarily this one) might benefit from being trimmed and not expanded. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queer section needs to be reduced 

message: There's a whole section DEDICATED to it? Isn't that enough Gay coverage? Jesus H Christ. 208.38.246.41 (talk) 23:16, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The lede in articles is meant to act as a summary of the main body. Considering the substantial coverage He-Man has received regarding homoerotic subtext and whatnot, it warants inclusion in the intro. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 11:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: According to wordcounter.com this WIKI has about 5000 words and you will find almost 2300 of them are dedicated to Gay subject matter. People are trying to be reasonable pointing out this is WAY TOO MUCH, you don't think that taking a He-Man WIKI and makinig 48% about this one subject matter in the entire scope of Masters of the Universe He-Man is unbalanced? 208.38.246.41 (talk) 14:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be a bit long, but it's really not that much. I think some condensing, removal of redundancies, and a review of sources might help, just like any article, but I've seen much worse. I think other areas of the article could be expanded, and the queer section condensed a bit, but it's not all that bad, IMO. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Well, first of all, Wikipedia isn't a He-Man Wiki; this isn't Fandom. Now, as to balance. Maybe yes, one could argue that a large section of He-Man's character article focuses on the application of queer theory and whatnot. I'm sure there's a lot more ways that one can look at He-Man, and as you described, there's probably sources out there talking about how "good of a role model he is", or something along the lines of that. But the thing is, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that people contribute to as a hobby. It's not anyone's job or obligation to improve an article based on what someone else thinks or wants. If you feel like the article focuses too much on the character's queerness, you're always welcome to find sources that expand other sections of the article. Maybe some sources dealing with the character's creation or portrayal in the "Development" section. Alternatively, sections that focus on the character through feminist or post-structuralism lenses. Hell, if there are any specific sources you'd like to have access to, I could probably send them to you; if that's possible for me to do. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 16:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't speak for the IP user but it seems like their concerns are that they DID attempt to edit the article by trimming, but that those edits are being reverted. Not all edits have to be additions. Editors should be free to be bold and trim content, if it's in good faith and they believe it's improving the article. If their edits are reverted, then they should come here, which it seems they did. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Hey, I agree with you. I have toned down a little the text in the intro. (Hopefully people can agree in keeping it simple.) Gianmariot2 (talk) 09:55, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do they keep adding Gayness to the intro? 

message: you've reverted three different editors, each of whom have given reasons why your edits should not be allowed to stand. Please discuss your changes here instead. Seasider53 (talk) 18:46, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you serious? I was told to include links to reliable sources, specifically from an official Mattel site. And that’s exactly what I did on my last edit. I included a link to MattyCollector.com. So why was it reverted? OldSkool01 (talk) 18:49, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Still not a reliable source. Have read of WP:RS. Seasider53 (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol. Then why was I told to use an official Mattel website? So now we‘re just moving the goal posts? How is an official Mattel website not reliable? Mattel is the company that created He-Man. I have a feeling that no matter what site I use, it’s gonna be reverted for being “not reliable”, right? This is unreal. OldSkool01 (talk) 19:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See here. He-Ro was an idea from Filmation which Mattel rejected. Seasider53 (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

text: You're also using an "official Mattel website" that is no long active.  So the information that you're trying to add may or may not still be accurate.  Add to that, your description of this as "official canon" was speculative at best, given how often various He-Man products and productions have changed the character and backstory. Rcarter555 (talk) 19:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  And then in 2012, Mattel themselves, not Filmation, created a He-Ro action figure, complete with a bio. OldSkool01 (talk) 19:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. Then just remove the words official canon. As for the MattyCollector site, it shut down because they no longer sell figures on there. OldSkool01 (talk) 19:27, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:OldSkool01]] 

message: The Power Sword is pretty much synonymous with He-Man. I propose merging the two. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A0A5:D7A8:85CC:1EBC (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal