Talk:Chanel Iman

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Chanel4.jpg

message: The birthday's in the article and the infobox don't agree. 99.145.82.64 (talk) 15:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1990 claim is sourced to what appears to be her official site.   Mbinebri  talk ← 14:13, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

text: As it says in WP:V (at least for now), The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.  Can you back up the 1989 claim with sources?   Mbinebri  talk ← 04:25, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Well, let's keep it to reliable sources, and the only one that looks good to me is the Vogue article.  However, it states she was born on November 30, 1989 as opposed to December 1, 1989.  Why the minor day/month change if this is only about faking a younger age?  Shaving off an extra two days would be pointless and might indicate it was all a mistake to begin with.  That said, a 3rd party source might in fact be more reliable.  It's hazy.   Mbinebri  talk ← 19:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

text: You should probably check the page's recent edit history before you start ranting next time.   Mbinebri  talk ← 14:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Wow, is there any reason for further debate with someone who says something can be "incorrect with facts"?   Mbinebri  talk ← 22:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  birthday? 

message: source for weight? she's probably grown to 5'10 now too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.187.67 (talk) 02:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: who changed her weight to 100 lbs? source? she'd probably be dead if she was really that light. 75.46.116.36 (talk) 18:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  weight / height 

message: The infobox image is being discussed for deletion on Commons; see .--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image proposed for deletion 

message: Per WP:SURNAME, "after the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only". This is the convention. Chanel Iman is also not a pseudonym; it's her actual first and middle name. The subject's real last name is Robinson, so that is what should be indicated. Middayexpress (talk) 14:59, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "Chanel Iman", as opposed to "Chanel Iman Robinson", is the name she specifically chooses to use for her career, hence it is a stage name/pseudonym.  And as WP:SURNAME states, "People who are best known by a pseudonym should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames."  Not only is "Iman" her pseudonymous surname, but it is also how she is best-known.  The policy you cite defeats your own argument.   Mbinebri  talk ← 16:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And let's be careful about an edit war now.  You've reverted both myself and another editor.   Mbinebri  talk ← 16:20, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, she is best known as "Chanel Iman", not Iman. "Chanel Iman" is also her real given name, not a pseudonym. That is her actual orthonym. A pseudonym is "a name that a person or group assumes for a particular purpose, which differs from his or her original or true name (orthonym)." Since Robinson is her real surname, that's what should be indicated per that policy. Middayexpress (talk) 16:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant "Iman" is the surname of how she is best known, not that people call her "Iman."  My apologies.  Anyway, we obviously have a different way of looking at this, so I requested a 3rd party to help us out.   Mbinebri  talk ← 16:36, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: She has no pseudonymous surname because "Chanel Iman" is not a pseudonym to begin with. That's her real birth name i.e. it's an orthonym. "Robinson", her actual surname, should therefore be used per convention. Middayexpress (talk) 16:49, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the input!   Mbinebri  talk ← 19:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, which is why I made the change. Calwatch (talk) 05:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "Chanel Iman" is not a stage name. That's her real name. A stage name is "a pseudonym used by performers and entertainers such as actors, wrestlers, comedians, and musicians[...] a performer will often take a stage name because his/her real name is considered unattractive, dull, unintentionally amusing or difficult to pronounce or spell, or because it has been used by another notable individual or because it projects an undesired image." Ricky Martin and Henry Jerome are not good examples because they too aren't using pseudonyms. Those are their actual names as well. That is why it is not indicated in their respective wiki pages that "Ricky Martin" and "Henry Jerome" are their stage names. Unlike the present situation, there are also no famous mononymous pop musicians or big band leaders named "Martin" or "Jerome" that the two artists might be confused with in subsequent usage. Middayexpress (talk) 12:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Also note that the two-part "Chanel Iman" was her given name at birth. Per Robinson, the "Chanel" came from Coco Chanel, and "Iman" came from a male cousin of hers . Middayexpress (talk) 12:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Surname