Talk:J. P. Stevens High School

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Unfortunantely, they're not Wikipedians, so some of the edits are of dubious quality. I loathe to revert them however, so let's see how it turns out, and then refactor, hmm? — Ambush Commander(Talk) 01:02, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you were surfing Wikipedia, and you saw this huge, informative, not important sign on the article, there'd be something wrong right? Ideally, all templates would go on talk pages, but stuff like  need to be on the article to get attention. — Ambush Commander(Talk) 21:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
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thread_title: Well...

message: "JPS has been known as an excellent high school"
: Is this verbatim how it's known?  Or is this bias marketing?  IMHO it's bias towards the school for marketing purposes.
:: More like JPS is among the top 50 schools in NJ. — Edward Z. Yang(Talk) 03:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: The school was named for John P. Stevens, who had been President of the Edison Board of Education.  His name is on the dedication plaque at the entrance to Edison High.  It has nothing to do with any of the more familiar men named John P. Stevens.
:If you can show a definitive source for the school being named for the BOE guy, go ahead and change it in the article. I've put up a  tag for now, since (speaking as a JPS grad) the textile guy story is currently the most widely held history. Wl219 20:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: An IP added this to the article today:
:Correction: Originally J. P. S. contained grades 9 through 12. In 1993, with the opening of Woodrow Wilson Junior High (which I attended in its inaugural year), the system changed from 2-year to 3-year Junior Highs, and from 4-year to 3-year High Schools. - Bill Stella
I took it out and placed it here.  If anyone can provide a reliable source for this, feel free to make the appropriate changes.  Metros232 16:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction needed? 

message: Why is the link to the JP Alumni social network always deleted from the JP min page.  
The link I refer to is hawktalk.ning.com
This is a social network created for and by JP Alumni.  The site is free, it reconnects friends, raises money for JP scholarships, creates volunteer opportunities and above all is a digital place to remenisce.
It is the most important link on the site and probably needs more attention paid to it or a page of its own.
Getting deleted is not acceptable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valliebe (talk • contribs) 02:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to The JP Social Network? 

message: Every two sentences in the Extra-Curric sections seemingly says "Finest in the state."  I'm pretty sure that's not Wiki standard. 67.82.236.87 (talk) 21:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Finest." 

message: Why is the first section the awards, recognitions and rankings? I think that section should be shifted down after the extracurriculars. It would make a lot more sense to put the history, students and faculty sections first.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaximusAlphus (talk • contribs) 20:08, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I've moved it down to just above extracurriculars, although I suppose it could go after it. A lot of material in this article could do with trimming - Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines could be useful. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reordering of Headings 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
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Moved back to J. P. Stevens High School by editor . Move to John P. Stevens High School was a technical request grant, so consider this a contested TR, and this move request is granted (with a space between J. and P.). No prejudice if an editor wants to open a new move request at any time. Thanks and kudos to the nom and other editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 04:27, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: John P. Stevens High School →  – Match WP:COMMONNAME as Google search shows "J. P. Stevens High School" to be the far more common usage. The name had been stable for years and was moved under the specious claim that an uncontroversial "misspelling" was being fixed. Wikipedia uses the common name as the title, which is why the article for William Jefferson Clinton is titled Bill Clinton. Alansohn (talk) 02:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 January 2023 

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The result of the move request was: not moved per consensus below.  Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:54, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: J. P. Stevens High School →  – The article confirms that John P. Stevens High School is the correct full name of the school, and points out that J. P. Stevens is merely an abbreviation. School sign and official website also confirm the full name. Move was approved by , but later contested by , who used Bill Clinton (real name William Jefferson Clinton) as an example for using shortened name and stating that my request was a "specious claim" and that the school's abbreviated name "had been stable for years". The rename was then reverted by Eejit43. 
Without prejudice to Alansohn, I would like to state that I attended John P. Stevens High School, and that no one with whom I went to school ever called it "J. P." or "JPS". None of the teachers or staff members ever used that abbreviation. The first time that I came upon it was on this Wikipedia page. Furthermore, I would like to contest this reversion, using such schools as University of California, Los Angeles (almost universally referred to as UCLA) and New York University (almost universally referred to as NYU), which both have their correct full names on Wikipedia. I, therefore, fail to understand why an unofficial name like "J. P. Stevens High School" would be used on here. Bricks&Wood talk 12:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The shortening of WP:COMMONNAME for people on Wikipedia is treated differently than for schools and businesses. Can you provide any other schools on Wikipedia that have shortened names? Also, your statement about findings on Newspapers.com is inaccurate. If you set the parameters correctly and only search for items related to the school in New Jersey and within its existence (1964 to now), "John P. Stevens High School" has 7,309 results, while "J P Stevens High School" only has 6,364 results. That makes the complete name more common.Bricks&Wood talk 14:42, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Oops, just noticed a typo in my above cmt... obviously "I see justification for changing the title" should have been "I see no justification for changing the title". Meters (talk) 17:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 February 2023 

message: I propose deleting from the lede that this school is "one of 29 schools with more than 2,000 students." This is a statement which has little significance for lede content. Also, I propose relocating the statement that 2.4% of students are eligible for reduced-cost lunches to a place in the body, since this fact does not have due weight for the lede. --Melchior2006 (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  lede is overloaded with trivia