Talk:Transatlantic flight of Alcock and Brown

message: Our family was on vacation and happened to be in Clifden at the time the replica Vimy was landing. The plane did a few circles around town and then landed on the golf course nearby, very close to the bog where the original plane crash-landed. There was a large parade through town, mostly consisting of period cars loaned from a museum for the occasion. Fosset and Rebholz rode in a period Cadillac limousine. There was a large part in a pub in town that night. We were actually able to talk and shake hands with Fosset and Rebholz, which you would never be able to do here in the US (They would be surrounded by security, no doubt).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackavsfan (talk • contribs) 21:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: An Interesting Note on the 2005 Reenactment

message: The Charles Lindbergh article says 81 flew the Atlantic before him; this article says 64.Pliny 17:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 81 or 64?

message: I'm  proposing merging John Alcock (RAF officer) and Arthur Whitten Brown into Alcock and Brown. I believe these articles are duplicating each other. I've proposed Alcock and Brown as the target atricle as I believe it has more deatail. -- Rehnn83 Talk 10:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal 

message: A map of the route taken would be interesting. Drutt (talk) 01:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: (Disclosure: I know this author) A comprehensive new book entitled "Yesterday We Were In America" by Brendan Lynch, was just published by Haynes & Co. (April '09). Seems it should be included in the article. Can anyone suggest where it might suitably fit? Don't want to just plonk it in crassly.
Also, the Trivia ref. to one of the propellers  is not true, according to Lynch. He notes, "one prop is at Brooklands, other is missing" (BrendanLynchBooks.com). --Cajmcmahon (talk) 17:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the 'missing' one is being used as a ceiling fan in a Dublin restaurant. Richerman   (talk) 17:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to read this, but found it impossible. It's all padding; the kind of book where the sentence 'After the end of World War One' is followed by three pages telling you about WWI. Good luck to anybody who can find anything in it worth adding to the article.TheLongTone (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: New book on Alcock & Brown published

message: I added a chunk based on a dubious website.  But more and better should be added. 01:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  More about the flight itself 

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message: The article alternates between 24 hour time and 12 hour time. We should pick one form or the other and stick with it. For example, in one sentence a time of "15:20" is given (which to anyone who uses a 12 hour system is 3:20 in the afternoon). However a few sentences later a time is given of "5:00pm." My suggestion is to use the 24 hour system as it is more globally recognized (yes?). Jersey John (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is confusing. The Science Museum website says that Alcock & Brown took off at 16.12 GMT (I think 13.42 local DST, as Newfoundland was 2.5 hours behind the UK in summer on the recently introduced Daylight Saving Time, or 3.5 hours behind GMT) and landed in Ireland at 08.40 GMT, 09.40 local DST, 'after 16 hours and 28 minutes.' I am not sure that, even now, people realise quite how daring it was to fly the Atlantic, in 1919, necessarily partly at night, without blind-flying gyro instruments, without radio (because it broke down), without Navy rescue ships strung along the route and with no possible diversion airfields. 
https://www.scienceandindustrymuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/alcock-and-brown 
Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  12 hour or 24 hour clock consistency? 

message: I've excised the phrase 'crash landing'. The fact is that it would have been a perfect landing had the ground not been a morass, causing a nose-over. The cite given was for an Irish tourist website, which I would not expect to avoid sensationalist and inaccurate language.TheLongTone (talk) 13:23, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crash landing? 

message: I found this in the article "[Alcot] was taken prisoner in Turkey after the engines on his Handley Page bomber failed over the Gulf of Xeros." But that is not what the reference says at all. The reference says  "30 September 1917, his Handley-Page bomber was shot down over the sea and he and his crew were captured by Turkish forces." The engines did not "fail" which implies enemy action did not cause the plane to crash. The geographic place name "Xeros" does not appear in this reference. The original sentence linked Xeros to Gulf of Saros, without explanation of the name discrepancy. I consulted two geographic reference works from 1990, closer to this flight than now (2022). It may be that the United Kingdom called the Gulf of Saros by this name at that time, but one of my references is The Times Atlas of the World, published in 1990 in London, England, and it does have Xeros in the index as a small village in Cyprus, but calls the Gulf "Saros". For all of these reasons I changed the sentence to match the reference. Nick Beeson (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xeros