Talk:Frisbee

message: From the article:
:"Upon his death, Morrison was cremated and his ashes turned into Frisbees."
Is this true or is it someone's attempt at humor? If true, can anyone provide a reference? —Frecklefoot 13:04, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)
:According to http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/6240.asp it was Ed Headrick, not Morrison.--Zantolak 19:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Ashes into Frisbees?

message: Could there be a tad more elaborating on the Wham-O's claim of "Frisbee" as a trademark? Have they been successful? If not, why?
Peter Isotalo 20:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was  just a phrasing issue, as the frisbee has been a registered trademark for a long time.  I changed the text. Elf | Talk 21:57, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trademark claim 

message: In certain games and movies there are frisbee or frisbee-like discs used as weapons. In Alien vs Predator movie the Predator has a metal disc that he throw on people and cut their heads off. In computer game 'Tribe', a weapon shoot disc to people.
Goldfinger
:in the original movie Goldfinger the servant Oddjob uses his hat as a spinning disc weapon.  When I was a kid it was pretty common for someone to come up and say something like "do you know what you would have if you put razor blades on the edge of that?"  This was so common it was in somebody's "12 Rules of Frisbee" along with "good catch followed by bad throw" and "car suck"
:Well I have an answer to the people who want to put razor blades on my DisCraft.  I tell them it would be exactly the same size and shape as the number 4 compressor rotor in the Pratt and Whitney JT9D jet engine.   Frizb 21:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapon 

message: I think that the physics section on frisbee is to scietific for general know-how. It should be made more basic and easier to understand.
Physics is hard
:Einstein said physics should be simple enough to explain things, but not simpler.  I agree it's not easy to understand what the page says now.  Unfortunately what is there now is wrong, and is not complicated enough.  It is too simple now, and in the fullness of time it will only get harder.  Frizb
::Maybe you should tackle your spelling and grammar first before worrying about the physics
:::Perhaps people should review some of the many Physics topics on Wikipedia that are MASSIVELY more difficult to understand than what was written here, and realize there's nothing wrong with complicated.  Those ready to take the next step will, and those who're not ready, won't.  But it should, by all means, be added. Clepsydrae (talk) 03:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Physics part too hard to understand? 

message: I had entered a section with this bit of trivia, but someone pulled it out; it's not a joke entry, and I cannot figure out why people wouldn't want it to be part of the page.  
John Dwork graduated from Hampshire College in 1984 with a Bachelor of Arts in Frisbee .  The full title of his degree was "Flying Disc Entertainment and Education."
I want it back in.  Any support?  MEJ119
:I agree with the adding it back in. It's true and a great example of the anti-authoritarian lifestyle that is frequently associated with frisbee or flying disc sports. I've attached a link to the Hampshire College library archives that confirms this "myth."  CFiorello 05:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also suggest adding to the trivia the Frisbee Dog Memorial Statue that sits on the quad of Middlebury College to the trivia. The statue's story can be found at this link.  while the story as the origin of frisbee is certainly apocryphal, it does add to association of frisbee and college culture.
See WP:TRIV. Creating trivia sections is a bad idea. If some fact is interesting enough to include, find/create some way to work it into main article prose. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 18:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia section

message: Can we move the name of this article from Frisbee to Flying disc yet? Wham-O has been getting protective of their copyrights and no serious Ultimate or other disc aficionado calls flying discs "frisbees". --Liface 16:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'll move it to flying disk.Cameron Nedland 13:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You spelled it wrong. It should be "Flying disc". I've put a request in at Wikipedia:requested moves to move it to this title. --Liface 19:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disk is an accepted spelling, like colo(u)r, civili(z/s)e, etc.Cameron Nedland 02:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Disk is accepted, but disc is more common. Flying disc vs. Flying disk. Plus, we've already set a precedent with "flying disc games". --Liface 06:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. I moved the page per the RM, but I'm not so sure it should have been moved from frisbee in the first place, copyrighted or not; I thought it was about UFOs... Whatever. Duja 14:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hard, because disc players are trying to phase out Frisbee as a genericized trademark for discs. Having the article read "flying disc" is a start. Hopefully in the next couple years people will be more and more used to the new rhetoric. --Liface 21:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I would like to see the portion which dicusses the flying technique of the discs stay under this heading for disc golf.  there is so much specific content in thta portion for the game of disc golf that would be out of place under a different heading. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kodhedz (talk • contribs) 09:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Whatever terminology is used by a "serious Ultimate or other disc aficionado", Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use_common_names_of_persons_and_things tells us to use the common name, which is frisbee. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The naming conventions page does not really apply to genericized trademarks. Examples: Crock pot, Novocaine, Viagra, basically any other drug name, Crescent wrench etc... --Liface 19:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I love going through and reading all of your talk page comments. They are all so engaging and well thought out. Beach drifter (talk) 19:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree, I had never heard of a 'flying disc' before I came here and if someone were to mention one to me I wouldn't know what they were talking about.  Everyone knows what a frisbee is, it's a generic name now.  The article should be moved back. Will Bradshaw (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename: flying disc to Frisbee (was Frisbee to flying disc) 

message: The article says the first pro model went on sale 1964; how was it different from the "amateur" version?  Trekphiler 11:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Turning pro

message: That new image at the top is pretty horrendous. Beach drifter (talk) 19:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, that is a better composed picture and closer to the actual frisbee.  It is probably the ugliness of the person in it that is causing you a problem. SpinningSpark 21:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I should have been clearer. That is basically what I meant. The entire picture, from the hair draped across the mouth to the clumsy attempt at a catch, make the entire article less appealing.  Beach drifter (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote we crop it after the head and just have the disc part. --Liface (talk) 13:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about this image instead? The main reason to change images for me is because in the current image, it looks pretty unlikely that the player will successfully catch the frisbee (thereby making the caption inaccurate). The perceived attractiveness of the player is not really a legitimate issue (though the hair draped over the face is sort of distracting). -kotra (talk) 22:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody responded, so I was bold and changed it. Revert me if there are any objections. -kotra (talk) 19:35, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New pic

message: Is this verifiable, or is it subtle Hogan's Heros vandalism?  Cheers,   Dlohcierekim  13:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalag 13 

message: I moved these statements from the main article's History section to here for discussion because they are claims of personal knowledge. Wikipedia does not allow personal claims (for example, "I know", "I was there") and instead requires citations to be to externally verifiable sources (newspapers articles, for example).
: "I know, because I started the fad in the courtyard of the Law School the day after I registered for my third year of law in mid-October, 1946."
: "Archivist Judith Ann Schiff's 2007 article implied that I claimed to have been the first to spin a pie tin at Yale; but I made no such claim -- how would I know? I only know I started the post-war fad which created a ready market for Wham-O's plastic disc. [e-mail address deleted for privacy reasons] "
I hope that an editor can use the information above as an aid to track down external, verifiable sources. --Zippy (talk) 04:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits possibly attributed to Sam C. Polk 

message: This article needs more watchlisters, to revert additions of manufacturer and retailer external links (sometimes disguised as informational links), and additions of external links to specific-game organizations (disc golf, guts, freestyle, etc.), which belong in the articles on specific games, not this general main-topic article.  Really, there should be very, very few external links on this page. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 18:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spamwatch 

message: Can there be another discussion about the name of this article? Especially with the Frisbee explanation in the second paragraph, it gives the impression that Wikipedians have moved it in order to appease the Wham-O company (which I'm sure isn't the case). Regardless, the previous discussion was very brief before there was a move to Flying disc and there appeared to be more concern after the move which was never addressed; the main point being that the common name should be used, not one used by aficionados/enthusiasts or prefered by the company, and even a brief Google (though not overruling or definitive by Wikipedia standards) will suggest that Frisbee is the far more well-known term. 62.56.87.114 (talk) 03:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Name 

message: No one says "flying disc".  Normally one says "disc".  More frequently the pronoun "it" is used, as in "throw it deep".  Rarely other terms are used, such as "bee".  For clarity, for example in a situation with little context, one says "frisbee" (not capitalized to note the genericized meaning), or in other uses "golf disc", etc..
It's not that the words "flying disc" are never used.  If I were writing an encyclopedic article on frisbees, I would define them as plastic flying discs.  "Flying disc" is a product category and manufacturing label.  The term is not, in my experience, adopted by the end users of the product.  Usage of the term is common, and can be googled all day long.  It is not used by people to refer to the product in actual life.
This is provable.  Google the phrase "I saw a flying disc". ...  Apparently, when used in the mouths of actual humans, this article should be about flying saucers and alien abductees.
I suggest following actual English usage, in all its muddy ambiguity, and title this article "frisbee".  The titles "(flying) disc" or "(plastic flying) disc" revert to the misusage we're trying to fix.  And no doubt there are carbon fiber discs out there now.Ggpauly (talk) 13:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: At the risk of sounding melodramatic, it just would be illegal.  Wham-O technically owns the trademark.  Hence, an article about "frisbee" could only be about the Wham-O product.  There's a long gray period for a trademark to fall out unwillingly into the public domain, and the article already mentions the trademark is in jeopardy.  WP is founded on surgical detail, so it's official statement should reflect the net situation out there.  The article can be titled "frisbee" if/when the term is generally legally considered to have fallen out.  WP can't take sides and suggest this should happen by reporting it already has. Squish7 (talk) 19:24, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about?  No one checks the writing on the plastic when speaking about a frisbee.   Frisbee has long been used for the item in question, more than 30 years.  There is no question that the term is genericised in english.  It's perfectly possible to be both a brand name and the english word for an item.  See longer discussion at #Rename:_flying_disc_to_Frisbee_.28was_Frisbee_to_flying_disc.29   Ggpauly (talk) 20:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article title uses an English phrase I have never heard in playing Ultimate in the US for 30 years. 

message: I have invented/patented a Glow in the dark flying disc -- Flite by Nite (TM) that requires Glowsticks. It can be verified at http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7582003.PN.&OS=PN/7582003&RS=PN/7582003.  
Can the verbiage be updated on your website to include Glowsticks?  It will be available to market in January 2014. 
There are also illuminated discs meant for nighttime play; they are made of a phosphorescent plastic or contain battery-powered light-emitting diodes. Others whistle when they reach a certain velocity in flight.
Chgo Angel (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WP isn't a patent directory.  To be included, reputable entities have to be talking about your product or describing how it affects the market or society.  If objective parties like general sports magazines review your product or relay news about its practical impact on people, that's a start, but that type of weight really has to be extensive to meet WP standards.  Just look at how short the entire Aerobie article is, and there isn't even an article here for Daredevil discs.  If your product develops in time, feel free to post those sources here and further your request (rather than try to insert them yourself, which is basically against policy), but I wouldn't hold your breath.  WP is well-geared against use as a promotional medium. Squish7 (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to illuminated disc options 

message: A new article has recently been published on Wired.com called The Design Genius of the Frisbee.  The article was written by Jonathan Keats on February 4th, 2015.  In the Wired article, the inventor of the Frisbee is named Walter Morrison, where here in your article it is Fred Morrison.  Are these two guys the same person?  It might be best to check your sources to find out which one is the correct name to use.  Here you can find the link to the Wired article: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/wham-o-frisbee/.  Cheers, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 17:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: New Article

message: How has Wham-O been able to successfully protect a trademark that they openly stole from a pie company, ironically because it had become the genericized term for the discs that they had previously been calling "Pluto Platters" ? I mean, the information refuting that trademark is right here in this article. And to think the NIMH movie actually changed a proper name, something which shouldn't be affected in the first place, because of that illegal aggressive legal shenanigan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.206.153 (talk) 03:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Trademark

message: move to frisbee.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I second Redrose64's comment, though for what it's worth I think 'Frisbee' is the obvious choice, especially as it is already a redirect. Pincrete (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know why I didn't move it given its current name contravenes policy. I tried to move it and it's not letting me. Ugh! I've leave it to you Engleham (talk) 13:12, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  thank you for the update! I'll see whether I can get it taken care of.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename Page

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message: Although it sounds like a joke, on December 12, 2017, President Trump signed into law a rule that requires registration with the FAA when flying discs weighing .55 pounds or more outdoors. The rule applies to toy helicopters, boomerangs, frisbees, model airplanes or any other device that flys through the air using aerodynamic lift. The rule was implemented as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018. I've added a well-sourced paragraph about it to the article. Sparkie82 (t•c)  21:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: More background: A few years ago in the US, the FAA instituted a policy that required people who fly model aircraft to register with the FAA if they fly devices outdoors that weigh more than .55 pounds. A flier took the FAA to court on the issue and the courts ruled that the FAA did not have the authority to require registration because congress had previously forbidden it from doing that. On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed into law a rule that reinstated that registration requirement. Although the media only focused on the registration of drones, the rule requires that any device weighing more than .55 pounds and flies through the air using aerodynamic lift is covered by the policy. This includes model aircraft, helicopters, boomerangs, frisbees, drones, gliders, or any other device that flies using aerodynamic lift. It doesn't include balloons or rockets, which are covered elsewhere in FAA regulations.Sparkie82 (t•c)  14:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frisbee regulation in the US 

message: No mention? 47.201.28.138 (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frisbee Pie Company?