Talk:Boaz and Jachin

message: Who the hell, put out the image of Boaz and Jachin?!? The justification is : " The image is in the categories Alchemy and Occult of Wikimedia Commons. It is not relevant here." Who cares if Wikimedia Commons have this category?!? I uploaded this image for the porpuse of this article... Lightwarrior2 (talk) 13:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted it, gentleman. If you want to do a stub just about the interpretation Freemasonry or the like have on the Columns, you have Wikipedia at your disposal. This article does not pass from a stub and your (low-resolution, illegible) image was giving much attention to a very secondary context. You could have improved the correspondent occultist section with a developed verbal content not attached to the image. Where is in the article something explaining the "Mystical alchemical" interpretation of Boaz and Jachin? --Algorithme (talk) 17:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why?! 

message: I propose this article be merged with the Solomon's Temple article. I see no point in having articles for every part of the building. Cush (talk) 20:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

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message: and . I wonder if this article should be deleted or merged. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The first one looks like a pretty clearly usable source. I'm having a lot less success understanding where exactly the second is coming from, because I'm not familiar with the publisher and a quick search isn't giving me much to go on as to whether it's a crackpot book or a serious one. Alephb (talk) 16:49, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Random House, so at least not selfpublished (I think). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:32, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, the author is somewhat noted as an author of books about books by Dan Brown: Even a book exploiting interest in The Da Vinci Code, called Cracking The Da Vinci Code, by Simon Cox, made it into the non-fiction top 10, selling 33,850 copies. Perhaps with attribution. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

text: Another source, for those with access: The Pillars Jachin and Boaz. Subject may actually deserve an article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, okay. When I clicked through your link, it said "Mainstream Publishing", which sounds ... suspicious. Alephb (talk) 21:42, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly usable sources 

message: (... automatic links) for  "Yachin and Boaz", "Yachin" etc., as these variants also show up (see for instance Israel Lipschitz). Thanks, Arminden (talk) 07:24, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yachin and Boaz as well as Yachin are redirected now. JohnThorne (talk) 14:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add redirects 

message: @Skyerise, I could argue that it illustrates the idea that the pillars should change place ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:10, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you could, if you had sources to that effect. But the problem is, the pillars don't change place, except in error. But it depends on whether the portrayal is intended to be looking into or out of the temple, which is not always explicit or easily determined (which is why we need sources). In any case, this is a big mess of cultural appropriation: why should the Masons or the Rosicrucians have any say in the matter? Skyerise (talk) 14:15, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they do if WP:RS bothered to notice their opinions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What's really needed is an overview source that covers the swapping and details which orientation each successive appropriator used. I don't believe such a source exists... But if you can find one, by all means ... Skyerise (talk) 14:18, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rosicrucian image