Talk:Joseph B. Soloveitchik

message: The article currently appears to have a great deal of focus on a conversation Soloveitchik and Shneerson had in Berlin in the early 20th century. There's no evidence that this brief conversation had anywhere near the significance on Soloveithchik's development that seems to be being made of it. It doesn't deserve more than a few sentences in a biography. If more is desired, suggest a separate article on Relationship between Joseph B. Solveitchik and Menachem Mendel Schneerson which can give complete attention to these issues without having to address the issue of undue weight in the context of an overall biography. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Several Ips have recently attempted to completely remove the entire section. While I disagree with trying to provide what seems to be almost a transcript of the conversation recovered from various people's memories and think mention of the whole incident needs to be boiled down to a couple of sentences sourced to reliable sources, disagree with completely removing all mention of it without discussion since it is a topic of later interest and note. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 16:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This section is copied verbatim from a Lubavitch propaganda tape of the kind commonly seen in Deli Kasbah.  This is far from serious history; it is hagiography, an account of one encounter and finally, according to some, even counterfactual.  For instance, Soloveitchik's son claims that his father had a falling out with Schneersohn over the messianism issue.  This was not a relationship characterized only by soft cuddly hugs!  It is impossible for me to understand the kind of fixation that causes someone to write such a section in the first place; would you go graffiti "endorsed the Rebbe" on the Rav's kever?  Why not just note in the article that there was an important encounter betwen MMS and JBS if its so necessary to emphasize one visit the man made in his life to one synagogue?  How is this possibly in someone's wildest fantasy a SECTION of the Rav's biography and not a minor footnote?
~~Josh~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.30.16 (talk) 17:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I deleted the transcript, which is out of place in a wikipedia article, and the honorifics attached to the various attributer's names - which clogs up the piece and makes it difficult to read (not to mention that the only significant part is that they were students of the Rav). I also changed some of the non-neutral language ("momentous" among other things). The section should ideally be shortened to a paragraph at the most, as no compelling argument for significance has been forwarded. All this said: The piece needs to be cleaned up further - significantly all jargon needs to be removed. Lubbarlubab (talk) 18:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early relationship with [[Menachem Mendel Shneerson]] 

message: Here is the full reference for a recent addition: RK (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am wondering if anything can be done about Dresner's loose translation in that quote of "Lo haya velo nivra ela mashal haya". Maybe it's good enough for most, but "There never was such a Jew" is inaccurate on a couple of points. But I'm not asking whether this is an important distinction; what I'm wondering about is whether the text of the quote can be edited -- not within quotes, obviously. --Arabicas.Filerons (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Views on "Halakhic Man"

message: The slur against Buber (Buber writes about Nachman of Breslev for example without noting ideas Rav Nachman had taken from the Misnagdim, because Buber shows absolutely no knowledge of the מחלקס in his community of secular Jews in Germany is marked with a "needs citation" flag. I do not know when this was added (no date shown). I am sure Rabbi Soloveitchik would not approve of this slur of a great scholar whom he often quotes approvingly, and the line should be erased from the entry. (In any case, the poster used an incorrectly spelled Hebrew word (מחלקס (sic)) in an English article.)  --PloniAlmoni (talk) 06:33, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Slur against Buber

message: About:
    Rabbi Aaron Kotler, whose public policy in relation to American Jewry
    was far more right-wing than Soloveitchik's, was introduced by
    Soloveitchik at a Chinuch Atzmai dinner[14] and this later became
    famous as an instance of unity among the Orthodox leadership.
A site of many personal remembrances of Rav Aaron Kotler by his students can be
found at http://www.shemayisrael.com/ravaharon.
At http://www.shemayisrael.com/ravaharon/rhirsch.htm we read:
    The Relationship with Dr. Soloveitchik
        Another thing that came up at that time was with the RCA and
        Dr. Soloveitchik. The Rosh Yeshiva said on him: “He doesn’t know
        what he is, but the whole sitra achra, the whole tuma rests on him.”
        
        It was known that he said that, and somebody went and told it over
        to Reb Dovid Soloveitchik. He was “very pleased” [MH5] with that
        succinct way of saying it.
Is it at all possible to take this at face value?
Can anyone elaborate on this?
108.226.79.31 (talk) 16:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agudah and Rav Aaron Kotler  

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message: Why is it significant that “Meir Kahane was highly influenced by his lectures”?  Many American Orthodox Jews were highly influenced by his lectures.  If there's something particularly significant about the ideological biography of these two people that connects them, it should be stated specifically.  What kind of influence?  How highly?  Why is this ‘influencee‘ different from all others? 70.163.96.155 (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kahane?