Talk:Issei Sagawa

message: Was his major at Sorbonne really English literature? His doctoral thesis was "A comparative study of Yasunari Kawabata and the 20th century's European avant-garde arts movements" - and April 1981, he participated in a discussion about Kawabata on a journal called Kokubungaku (Japanese Literature). --1523 08:58, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I doesn't really surprise me that an English major might do work on the writings of his native culture, and that is what the linked article says. Is there any hard evidence to the contrary? --Prosfilaes 20:54, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That link is no longer valid. Zuiram 13:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: What is what Sagawa said? Can you provide a rough summary for the non-Japanese speaking Wikipediers? --Prosfilaes 19:03, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: His major

message: It seems quite hard to find information about Renée (the victim) such as date/place of birth, family information, etc. Could anyone help? --Pinnecco 00:48, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For that matter, since the victim's page simply redirects to Sagawa's page, I'm going to delete the wiki link on her name in this article. --Lilitou 19:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Renée

message: We have a version of this article even in Dutch! Don't you think translating this into Japenese should be a priority? Or do people not want to read what they don't want to know?
:The Japanese who know about him probably don't feel compelled to write about him.
:The people who know about this article probably don't speak Japanese well enough to translate it.
:Try translating it yourself, contacting wikiproject japan or the japanese language wikiembassy.
:Zuiram 13:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i second that idea.  other people/groups who have produced written, visual, or audio works have discographies, bibliographies, lists of works, etc. on their respective pages; this page should have such as well.  otherwise the article is solely about a particular incident and its aftermath, rather than about the person.  M. 76.170.99.57 (talk) 08:50, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese Anyone?

message: This article states that the female victim was German. However, the page on Cannibalism (Section "Sexually motivated cannibalism)" here on wiki states she was Dutch... . I am Dutch, and, going solely by her name, I should say she is German. However, lots of people in the Netherlands have German names. The CrimeLibrary article states she is German. So probably the Cannibalism article is wrong about her nationality. But I have not done more research than I just mentioned...72.184.115.50 17:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality of the victim?

message: I was on a japanese page where they made a reference to a "Kazumasa Sagawa"; google searches indicate that many people associate that name with the events in Mr. Issei's page. Did this killer change just his first name, or is that a nickname, or something else? 24.77.182.227 08:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's just an alternative reading of the name (the more likely one, for that matter), but I'm not sure. TomorrowTime (talk) 17:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is Kazumasa Sagawa?

message: Reading the current version of the article, I noticed a couple of contradictions between the CrimeLibrary source and the wiki article.
1)Crime Library says he was at Wako University when he was attracted to the German teacher, whereas the current wiki version has it as the University of Paris. Previous versions of this page had Wako, so why was it changed? Also, the current article says she was a German teacher, but Crime Library only says that she was teaching him German, not what her profession was.
2)Crime Library has that he was at the "Censier Institute" in Paris, the current wiki article says the Sorbonne. A google only shows references to a "Censier Institute" in relation to Sagawa, so the term is apparently an error on Katherine Ramsland's part, and Sorbonne appears to be correct. But should the wiki version say something reflecting the source more closely, like- "at the Université Censier Sorbonne." I don't know anything about how the place is actually referred to except from what I've googled.
3)Japanese wiki (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%90%E5%B7%9D%E4%B8%80%E6%94%BF) says he studied Literature at Wako University, and English Literature at Kansai Institute University in 76(和光大学人文学部文学科卒業、76年関西学院大学大学院英文学専攻修士課程修了), contradicting the Crime Library reference. I'm not saying Japanese wiki is definitely right, but is there another reference? I can't find the Peter McGill Observer article of May 24, 1992, online.
DrHacky 16:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction with source 

message: This article might need to be rewritten entirely.  There is nothing about Hartevelt, her family or her background; she is utterly objectified and the single point of view is an insult to the woman's memory.  Someone's daughter died by this monster's hands and Sagawa's still a free man, even extolled in Japanese society.
71.241.94.211 (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article reports the facts of the case; I see no point of view issues. There is little about Hartevelt and her background because this article is about Sagawa. While the details of Hartevelt's murder are rather gruesome, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not censored and is not a memorial site. —tktktk 03:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

text: I came here for info about Issei Sagawa, that's what I got. This doesn't need to be changed, it's neutral. 2602:306:250B:6079:81F4:FB96:8F34:ADF5 (talk) 15:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

text: agreed...those sorts of details about her sound like they belong on a page about her, which someone above said does not exist so the link was removed.  M. 76.170.99.57 (talk) 08:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Glorifies Cannibalism

message: in the section about pop-culture references, the following immediately follows the mention of the Rolling Stones' song:
"the 2004 Human Factors Lab song "Dinner with Renee"."
that's it, just a fragment, that is the only reference without any details or even simple completion.  of course i know nothing about it, don't know the song or the band or anything there, so i would hesitate to be the one to correct it.  though i am going to have to learn how to edit so that i don't have to mention it on the talk pages (as it is only found talk pages last night and this is only the 2nd article i've commented on).  :)  M. 76.170.99.57 (talk) 08:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical error (sentence fragment) that creates confusion