Talk:Generations of Adam

message: WP:CITE JFW | T@lk 23:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How often do I need to explain that your sources should be on the page, not in the edit history? Do you trust an encyclopedia without sources? Heck, even your darling Jewish Encyclopedia lists its sources! JFW | T@lk 23:07, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: In this section of the article, the author compares the lines by adding Adam and YHWH to the side of Cain. To me, it seems more accurate to compare Seth to Cain, as he is Cain's replacement if you were to do that you would get this:
                Cain          Seth
                Enoch         Enosh
                Irad          Cainan
                Mehujael      Mahalaleel
                Methushael    Jared
                Lamech        Enoch
                              Methuselah
                              Lamech
This way you can see more clearly that it is the result of two different traditions as the article says. It is also easier to see that the Enoch, Irad Mehujael, is just the reverse of Seth's  Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch. This suggests to me that  there are only five unique descendants. The two Enochs and Enosh are arguably the same character. 
Each geneology eventually comes to a point where there are three sons who father "groups" of people. In Cain's line it's Jabal (herdsmen), Jubal (musicians), and Tubal-Cain (artisans). In Seth's line it's Japheth, Shem, and Ham; though their descendants are seperated by race or culture, not by profession. KilltheBadger 01:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison Between The Lines 

message: Why not also a 'Christian' date system (such as Ussher's)? It is unfair to use only Jewish dates, as Wikipedia is used by more than just Jewish users.Ryoung122 05:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Using Jewish-only dates

message: I think we have to admit that this is a low-quality article.  One of the main problems is the number of tables, which keep listing the names repeatedly but with slight differences in order or in the purpose of the table.  We need to find a way to reduce their number without removing content that would be appropriate for Wikipedia.  Also, we need to make sure that speculative and unreferenced material is removed:  it seems to me that some of the material is just that.  (Example, the etymologies of the names are speculative and disputed, but the brief summary found in this article implies that the etymologies are better established than they are.)  I took a stab at reducing some of the redundancy, thinking that it would be OK if some non-redundant material was removed collaterally because readers don't really want to see so much detail. Greensburger felt that the second table I had deleted was not redundant and sufficiently important to keep.  I don't agree, since the second of those tables just puts the names side-by-side, which isn't necessary since the text already makes the point that there are obvious homologies in both geneologies and also because the tables that remained in the article put them sufficiently close in sequence for any reader to see if for his/herself.  Therefore he restored both tables (not just the disputed one), but I think that clearly this does restore some redundant material. Request:  please suggest a way to compactify the various tables in this article into a smaller number with higher quality content.  I could take another stab at it but it would probably be better to get some discussion from the rest of the community first.  Thanks!  Sanddune777 (talk) 23:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Low Quality Article:  Too Many Tables

message: The source is a Young Earth Creationist, how is he a reliable source for this? Dougweller (talk) 21:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Badly sourced 

message: adam     	
eve      	
cain     	tubal-cain
abel     	jabal
seth     	lamech
enosh    	
kenan    	muthushael
mahalalel	mehujael
jared    	irad
enoch    	enoch
Just granpa (talk) 03:08, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: similarities in the names

message: If the Flood of Noah is the same as the flood of Ahmose in Egypt, then the great pre-noah kings of the Levant are the Hyksos.
Saitis/Salitis = Seth; pretty close.
Bnon = Enosh; stretch.
Apachnan/Khyan = Kenan; match.
Sakir-har = Mahalel; 1 letter off - M vs S;hebrew transcription error (הֲ is mistaken for the hieroglyph በ)
A-user-re = Jared; stretch.
Yannasi = Enoch; match.
Meruserre = Methusaleh; Rhymes. r vs th - stretch.
Kalmudi = Lamech; close/stretch.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.56.53.110 (talk) 16:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to the Hyksos 

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