Talk:While My Guitar Gently Weeps

message: Why is Toto at the bottom of the page?  xD --98.217.61.141 (talk) 04:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toto? 

message: This article could use some editing. The first paragraph on the writing and recording is fair, but the rest of it is rather poor. The "speculations" section is just that; speculative. The "alternative versions" section repeats a lot of the info from the "writing" section. Maybe this comes from the use of the Beatles template, but the result is fragmented. Oh, and as someone else mentioned here, the chord changes have been used in other songs; quite a few songs share the beginning sequence of Am - Am/G - Am/F# (F#m6) and Am/F (Fmaj7).80.202.215.74 (talk) 14:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs editing 

message: I have just removed the following from the article re the 2002 Concert for George "It was the first time that Starr and McCartney had performed together since recording "All Those Years Ago" in 1981."
Does this refer to live performance? If it refers to recording sessions then it is incorrect, as Paul & Ringo recorded in 1994 for "Free as a Bird", 1995 for "Real Love" and tracks from McCartney's album Flaming Pie issued in 1997.     
Design 01:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Paul & Ringo

message: Uh, it doesn't seem to state who sings lead on the studio recorded version - is it Harrison? Stevage 08:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing info

message: this song (00:51) has the same chords as the oasis' song from theur album (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, she's electric at 00:53.
please note it is the same chord scheme. should it be added to the main article?
(HelenoBR 00:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[She's Electric]] X [[While my guitar gently weeps]]

message: It's asserted in The Concert for Bangladesh article that the concert was the first time it was publicly revealed that Clapton played the solo to this song. Is that a correct assertion and what would be a good reference for that if it is?-Wisekwai 19:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clapton was a sessions man officially. He would have been paid the union rate for his attendance.  This will be in EMI archives. His contribution was dictated by George Harrison. Clapton's artistic contribution  was minimal to zero.  94.3.15.159 (talk) 17:36, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Concert for Bangladesh]] 

message: This anonymous edit adds a reference to "Casey Vail": 121802617 
I can't find any mention of a guitarist w/ that name on google. Sounds bogus to me - Tyler Oderkirk 01:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious Reference to Casey Vail

message: At the end of this song on the Love album, John Lennon can be heard saying quite cleary 
"[something] the mike of the channel is quite low this just keeps [something] with my maracas, you know... You know those old channels"
I don't know how, or if you want to incorporate this into the article, but there you go.
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That's actually from the version of "A Day in the Life", which is the next track on the album. It's not from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"Scmods (talk) 08:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love ending 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:The White Album.jpg

message: What's infamous about it? It's a great solo. Scmods (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princes Infamous Guitar Solo? 

message: The external link seems to be to a Microsoft Media protocol, not directly playable outside the Microsoft hegemony and no longer supported by Microsoft. Unless I'm missing something (always possible), this is the external link:
 http://www.warnerreprise.com/asx/tompetty_ghigentlyweeps_300-v.asx
with XML that points to the MMS server which doesn't seem to be influenced by rtsp protocol:
 mms://wm.wbr.com/tompetty/gharrison_induction/tompetty_ghi_gently-weeps_300.wmv
Without something playable by the general public, shouldn't this at least be removed from the opening of the article, if not the article itself? If I'm correct, we might as well plant a 'best viewed with Microsoft Explorer' banner. I suggest demoting it into the External Links section.
--UnicornTapestry (talk) 07:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petty/Prince solo? 

message: See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Use_of_.22The.22_mid-sentence. The "the" in "The Beatles" when speaking of the band is not capitalized mid-sentence. Same goes for the Who, the Yardbirds, the Cure, etc. Look into it (not in this haphazardly edited nightmare of an online encyclopedia, but in reputably edited printed matter), and you'll see that that's right. It's just typographical convention and is not a debatable thing, really. The "the" in The Beatles, the album name, however, is, because without it you're not reporting the true name of the album. I hope that answrs the ????? you had. --Milkbreath (talk) 11:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been debated ad nauseum by members of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles and current consensus is to capitalize "The". Please don't change any articles without seeking consensus first. — John Cardinal (talk) 13:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Have you heard of WP:AGF? Nevermind. Go ahead and keep changing it; a bunch of other editors will change it back, that will lead to more useless discussion and rancor, and people who hyperventilate over "the Beatles" or "The Beatles" will lose a lot of sleep. Sounds like a worthy goal to me: have at it! — John Cardinal (talk) 17:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 

message: and later in an electric version featuring a backward guitar solo (as Harrison had done in "I'm Only Sleeping" on Revolver), but no version seemed to work
i never ever heard of this version with a backwards guitar solo, there isn't even a version the song with george on lead electric guitar in existence, at least not in the 140 GB of beatles music i have.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.246.112 (talk) 19:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: — John Cardinal (talk) 21:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  please cite a source or delete this from the article 

message: The covers section is growing out of control.  We need some inclusion criteria or better yet think about just getting rid of it entirely. Ridernyc (talk) 15:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we should get rid of it, but I agree that it seems to be a little overly large. Some of the listings don't seem to be notable at all. I'll see what I can do to trim it. Evanh2008, Super Genius  Who am I?  You can talk to me... 21:32, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Many agree that if it's not established, by a WP:RS, as notable (e.g. charting, award-winning), then it shouldn't be included.  You could start a discussion at WT:SONGS and have it added to the guideline if you're feeling keen. Uniplex (talk) 19:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah not really interested in starting a huge policy debate here.  Just know that the list can not remain in the article in it's current state.  Ridernyc (talk) 11:51, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Covers

message: ... the continued minor triads (III, VI and II) should be notated as "... the continued minor triads (iii, vi and ii)" in order to conform to proper designation of minor chords. Here's a source: http://musictheoryblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/roman-numeral-chord-notation.html wbchaney (talk) Wbchaney (talk) 15:22, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Musical Notation

message: I need to call into question using the website Songfacts.com as a reference.  The website is primarily fan-based.  The website FAQ states that they list their data sources as interviews with singers which may or may not be published, books, magazine articles, and other print sources.  However, none of these print sources are actually listed and there are no interviews on the website with Beatles members.  There is an interview with Yoko Ono, but she does not discuss anything relevant to this song.  Wjlmiv65 (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference Question: Songfacts

message: It's quite wrong to say ADT is "also known as" varispeed: They're separate things, but the combination of the two is what makes the characteristic sound being discussed here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.245.59 (talk) 13:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  My change concerning ADT and "varispeed" 

message: Reading this article you would think Eric Clapton did this song, not the 4 Beatles. He was brought in by Harrison as a sessions musician on the final recording, mainly to get Lennon and McCartney to take the song serious after many rejections by the band - 28. Clapton was told what to do. His guitar was double tracked with an organ in the mixing. The sound men made the guitar sound like how Harrison's would be. 
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/beatles-while-my-guitar-gently-weeps
What makes the recording is the haunting organ and bass in the background, not the lead which was not exceptional at all. Why all this fuss about a sessions man - that was what he was on this recording, and would have been paid the union rate for a sessions man by EMI. Hundreds of people played on Beatles recordings, including Brian Jones of the 'Stones. No one makes a big thing about that. 94.3.15.159 (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree with you at all, and thank you for starting a discussion. More is needed on a lot of aspects of the song, and less might be needed on others, but Clapton's guitar contribution is a highly notable aspect of the track. The article just hasn't been well thought out yet. But the answer's not to add mention in the lead section that Clapton was a "session musician" on the Beatles' recording. He was there as a friend of the Beatle who wrote the song, and at this time, Harrison was making quite a bit of music with Clapton outside the Beatles, and enjoying it. He was a "guest". JG66 (talk) 15:39, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Officially Clapton was a sessions man. It is that simple. He was. Whether he was a buddy of Harrison is irrelevant. His contribution was minimal. He was told what to do and his work was also changed after the recording in the mixing. The sessions trumpeter in Penny Lane had a great impact in that song, but no one lauds the player. The article heavily implies Clapton made this recording and without him it would have been a flop. That is is nonsense of course.  Clapton's contribution should be put into perspective. 94.3.15.159 (talk) 02:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The word `Clapton` is in the article 19 times 

message: I've just listened to the Esher Demo of this song, and the harmonium on that version sounds a lot like Bach's Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 639, particularly the version played by Leonid Roizman as it would be used by Andrei Tarkovsky only four years later in Solaris. Has any reliable source mentioned this Bach influence upon the song? If so, it should go into the article. --46.93.158.170 (talk) 19:01, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bach 

message: In the first half of the last paragraph:  the sentences about what Alan Smith thought and said about it - don’t these say much more about him than about anything to do with either the song ir George Harrison?  In which case, delete them? Boscaswell talk 09:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release and reception section: Alan Smith 

message: If I Google "unused verse of while my guitar gently weeps" I
see this text highlighted, attached to a link to this  wikipedia article:</br>
"A demo that Harrison recorded at his home in Esher includes an unused verse: "I look at the trouble and hate that is raging / While my guitar gently weeps / As I'm sitting here, doing nothing but ageing …" This version also includes the line "The problems you sow are the troubles you're reaping", which he similarly ... " </br>
But that text doesn’t appear in the article - there doesn’t seem to be any mention at all of this unused verse. Shouldn’t there be? I’ve gone back through a page or two of the edit history and can’t see it being deleted, and it’s not in the notes, either. What’s the go? Boscaswell talk 08:22, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. It's there. I don't consider it notable. Many songs are originally written differently than the final version. Sundayclose (talk) 22:04, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The unused verse  

message: I've just watched what is possibly the only remaining original live TV recording of X-Ray Spex performing Identity with the saxophonist who was brought in to replace Lora Logic. (Guy Garvey series 4, Sky Arts).  The sax riff is a speeded up, slightly distorted version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps.  All sources agree that Logic wrote/arranged/gacked?? all the sax contributions to Germ Free Adolescent - the replacement sax player just played what she had laid down, after Styrene fired her.  This is pure OR I know, can't put it in the article and cite it to the recording on YouTube, but its fascinating.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.85.209 (talk) 00:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-Ray Spex - Identity