Talk:Hindi cinema/Archive 1

message: Neej Zora, Surya, I could be wrong but this section is about Bollywood not necessarily the English language, and your technical arguments are a little frightening to people who barely speak English (like me). 
I like what you both have done for this page but I feel a bit sad that you two are after each other for minor technicalities (e.g. adding 'Bengali' to someones name), I don't think theres a harm in mentioning ethnicities, for non-Indian visitors like me it gives a bit of color to occationally hear ethnicity mentioned, and it may pique the curiosity of foreigners to learn more about India.. 
HOWEVER in this instance - putting The Bengali in front of Kishore Kumars name (I am assuming this is the correction that was disputed?) did not really make sense. Kishore Kumar is famous as Kishore Kumar and mentioning his ethnicity here does not seem relevant.
I did notice a mention about preference for light skinned celebs in Bollywood, this seemed quite interesting and I never really noticed it till someone mentioned it. True it was somewhat irrelevant in the Bollywood page as this page is about Bollywood not skin preferences. However it is good that this issue does get a passing mention.
Lastly I really like the new page its much neater. Keep up the great work!
PS - previous edit to Bollywood ending - Meej and some ancient IP edits were me... Hope I've been of help. Registered a name now.. Ended up as Neej. Guess I'm dyslexic when it comes to typing. Ah well --Neej 18:45, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: Neej, it's nice to have another person working on this. When it's just two people it can turn into mere head-butting (as Surya and I have been doing :) ) and a third point of view helps keep things on track. I like the edits you did in the plagiarism section, makes it cleaner and simpler. 
If you notice anything MISSING from the main page (as I recently noticed that the Filmfare awards were) add it. If you have time, any work on the various list pages I spun off would be of use! Zora 20:56, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome Neej 

message: Dear Fariq -- did I get your name right? Thanks for adding sentence re language of Bollywood films. Big d'oh forgetting to specify that. I re-worked style a little but don't think I changed the point you made.  Zora 11:17, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks for point re language 

message: Comments:
"Americans and British people newly acquainted with Bollywood also call it Hindi cinema. "
Uh...that's exactly the point. There's a whole new population engaging with this and I don't think we should encourage misunderstandings to grow and prosper.
"very close to all books printed outside of India, before and after Independence, refer to the subcontinent as the "Indian subcontinent.""
Ummm...again, that's a word that is either a) the Euro-centric characterization of the whole subcontinent or b) the name of the nation-state that came into existence in the middle of the last century. Neither strikes this humble observer as something I would like to accept as a universally appropriate way to characterize the whole (South Asian) Subcontinent.
And I agree with you that the phrase "Hindustani Cinema" is a non-starter. But then, neither I nor anyone else recommends it. I prefer the way you have edited the intro to Bollywood right now.--iFaqeer 23:29, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
: OK, I tried another formulation in the intro para and moved the controversy to Dialogues and Lyrics. Zora 18:33, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urdu, Hindi, Hindustani ... and Bollywood [continued]