Talk:Parenthetical referencing/Archive 1

message: :"All citations should be in the same-sized font as the text."
Source? (SEWilco 00:40, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do the sources in the article mention font sizes?  (SEWilco 01:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

text: I know the custom, but I'm not claiming this style mandates a font size.  I know many publications and writers use a single font size although don't know if that is due to a requirement, custom, or technical limitations.  (SEWilco 01:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: SE, this is getting silly. You're questioning things that no one who knows about citation styles would question. Please produce one source showing a Harvard reference in a superscripted font, or in any different-sized font from the main text. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're the one making the claim that the same size is required by Harvard referencing, so you're required to show it is so.  I agree that the same font size, orientation, and weight is usually used.  (SEWilco 03:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only way I could show you that every single publisher uses the same size font would be to produce a copy of every book ever published that uses Harvard referencing. Or perhaps a signed statement from every publisher. ;-)  Look, if you know that sometimes they don't do this, please produce an example, or a source who talks about it. But if you're just guessing, please stop, because this has gone beyond the bounds of what's reasonable. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation styling 

message: Some websites that are useful to reference don't give publication years for their articles.  What should one do in that case?  Is it possible to use Harvard references at all for them?  —Morven 06:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only can you not use Harvard reference, you cannot really use any great system of reference.  In this case, if the text is online provide the url link.  Follow the kink -- does the text linked not provide its date?  Otherwise, try doing tome gumshow work -- find out if it was published in a book or journal, and then put the full citation in the article. Slrubenstein   |  Talk 16:38, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isn't the date omitted if unknown?  If the author is unknown, may the title be used?  (SEWilco 06:23, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's so easy to find out the date if you know the author and title, and the author if the title is known, it's hard to see why anyone would need to leave it out. Also, if you've used it as a source, then presumably you'd have it to hand, or   at least be familiar with it. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:26, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm asking about the citations rules, not specifics.  The date for an original work by Homer is not so easy to find out.  Some works have unknown or collective authors.  (SEWilco 21:42, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the original publication date, not when written. If unsure, cite the date of the copy you're using. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're again confusing citations with referencing.  (SEWilco 16:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I've seen some Harvard referencing guides which specify that when a date is unknown (or before a certain year) the reference should omit the year.  Has anyone noticed a guide for what should be used when there is no known author?  (SEWilco 16:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible to give a Harvard reference if you don't know the publication year? 

message: Is this really supposed to be an article? Having arrived here from the WP:MOS, I would have thought it should be in the Wikipedia: namespace like Wikipedia:Footnotes. And the article proper would have less "how to" and more history, development, etc. pfctdayelise 23:25, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, yes it's an article, Pfct. By all means feel free to add some history. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created Wikipedia:Harvard referencing. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article or Wikipedia namespace? 

message: It would be really helpful if early in this article there were links to see Wikipedia articles that used the Harvard style.  Some of us learn visually much better than by explanation. CyberAnth 01:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples