Talk:Koro (disease)

message: How can Koro be treated by "a course of alprazolam and imipramine"? The article seems to say that Koro refers to the retraction of the penis into the body, and that this is impossible.
--[[User:be inclined to put it into the large category of symptoms resulting from somato-sensory affectional deprivation, that is, lack of physical affection in childhood, adolescence and adulthood. Our own modern society is full with the most bizarre sexual fetishes, and sex panics are perhaps little more than a more chaotic way to deal with similar neuropsychological manifestations.
: Take a look at these pictures. They show a monkey reared in isolation, with no physical affection. He no longer recognizes his own body parts and attacks them as if they were not a part of his own self. Touch appears to be essential for the development of self-identity, as well as for the correct "wiring" of the pleasure/pain circuits in the brain -- see this article for the underlying research and this one I wrote for Kuro5hin for some speculation about the implications.—Eloquence 02:40, Oct 26, 2003 (UTC)
::: Take a look at these pictures. Some other time, really.  Paul Klenk 05:42, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no penis on these pictures. If you want to see a monkey penis, here is one.—Eloquence 05:47, Oct 26, 2003 (UTC)
Someone else, excellent work on Penis panic -- we're really getting somewhere on this subject.  Keep up the hard work.  Paul Klenk 02:17, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Treatment of Koro

message: Call me ignorant, but what's an electronic comb? Shaver, toothbrush, hair trimmer, yes but comb? Andy G 20:27, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Suggestion:
This actually seems to belong in the category of 'dysmorphism' disorders like obsessive body-builders who would would rather kill themselves with steroids than suffer the indignity of losing their muscle definition, or anorexics who will starve themselves to death thinking they are 'fat' all the while. The only major difference it seems is that it is 'sporadic' in a wide portion of the population instead of constant in a smaller portion (if the account on the existing page is reliable). Or is there also a small segment of the population who suffer this syndrome constantly? I bet there is... I think there need to be links to and from the pages on these disorders. Hmm, there is a page for Anorexia, but not one for Body Dismorphism Disorder yet. New page needed? :)
:Penis panic?  Similar to anorexia?  Its not like these people want their penises to go away, be stolen, etc.  As far as who suffers, interestingly, particular varieties of penis panic (Koro, for example) exist almost exclusively in certain geographic regions.  Don't know if there are particular segments of those particular populations that are particularly more likely to suffer from this particula phobia, though.  I was really hoping I could squeeze another "particular" in there!  Ha!  Just did!  This whole thing does remind me, though,  that there should probably be a link to vagina dentata on the page, assuming the article still exists...  -Seth Mahoney 02:41, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: "Another common misconception is that the penis can be kept safely in a woman's mouth."
Can someone provide a source for that? Sounds too bizarre to be true. 18.246.0.79 10:41, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: In all seriousness, I suspect it may be trying to express the idea that if a man who is undergoing an attack of koro/shook yang were to have his organ held in a woman's mouth, this would thus prevent it from retracting/shrinking/disappearing. --Dpr 06:22, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Common misconception"

message: First of all, I know there is a reference to the belief that Koro can be cured by oral sex in Joseph Cambell's Hero With a Thousand Faces.
Secondly, I know that an anonymous internet report carries absolutely no scientific weight, but this has actually happened to me 3 times.  
The first time it happened was the first time I ever used a psychedelic drug (mushrooms).  At one point during the trip, I went to urinate.  I whipped it out, and as I was staring at the patterns in the floor, I noticed that my penis was actually shrinking into my body.  It was odd, but I let it continue for awhile.  Once half my glans had disappeared (I did not have much body fat at the time, either) I decided I didn't want to see the end of this process, and pinched what was left between my fingers.  After what seemed like a few minutes, (I know, I was tripping)  It stopped pulling into me, and I was able to tug it out.  I waited a little while to make sure it wasn't going to try that again, then pissed and left.
The second time it happened to me, I was really drunk and had narrowly avoided a serious beatdown.  I ducked into the bathroom and it happened again.
The third time I was at a small town dive bar, and had just gotten high.  Things started to just seem strange, in that way they sometimes do.  Once again, went to the bathroom and I had to save my penis.
Now, one could say that I was either in a state of psychosis or panic for each of these instances, but they all definitely happened.  That this might actually happen is appropriately dismissed by the scientific community, but how in the world would you repeat these conditions in the lab?  Even if I had had a video camera handy, capturing the event for posterity wasn't the first thing on my mind.  I still have no idea what would have happened if I hadn't resisted.
One could easily imagine states of anxiety and psychosis happening more often in more primitive areas, where belief in magic and witchcraft is common.  I'm probably not the only one in the world this has ever happened to.  I don't doubt that in the Sudan case mass hysteria was a factor, but something like this does actually occur in reality. 207.32.47.14 15:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I see.  You were always drunk, tripping or high... but it "definitely happened".  Not like you could have been hallucinating or anything.  And you're not like those "primitive" people who believe in such silly things as magic and witchcratf, oh no, you are a rational-minded fellow - with a drug problem and a scientifically impossible shrinking penis problem.Rglong 20:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To his defense here, I think I know what he means, although personally I haven't even tried alcohol. It's more a matter of philosophy and the definition of the word "happens". What you see, hear and feel are just signals that the brain itself creates, with help from the eyes and nerves, but still filtered and processed. So if you're under influence, and something like that "happens", it's as real to you as it would be if a real physical change would have taken place. I think he argues that the people that this happened to actually saw it, and thought it was real, so it was not just some rumour that started on no grounds. Pipatron (talk) 13:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Experience

message: Under "Sudan", does the reference to supposed "Zionist" influence refer to Israel-related Zionism, as linked, or to the African Christian religion of that name? JackyR 20:39, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would gues it fits under here... YeshuaDavid (talk) 19:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Zionist? 

message: Genital retraction syndrome (GRS), generally considered a culture-specific syndrome, is a condition in which an individual is overcome with the belief that his/her external genitals—or also, in females, breasts—...
Erm, since when have breasts been "genitals"?  Not that there can't be a similar, related female phenomenon, but surely it would fall under some other name? --Lode Runner 08:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: guess u don't know the meaning of the word "or".... 2601:19C:527F:A660:69C2:95C4:85B7:ECAE (talk) 05:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breasts? 

message: The DSM-IV discusses this stuff. Someone interested should probably cite the relevant section of it. Quux0r 05:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DSM 

message: I'd shrink my penis too, if my name was combs. --71.230.142.176 22:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  For the record 

message: In my opinion the sudan section seems very fake because it is idiotic and there are mistakes such as spacing mistakes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.135.153 (talk) 01:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "The hysterical reports were spread throughout Sudan by means of cell phone text-messaging"? I think we all need to thank World Vision for apparently delivering crates of used cell phones to Sudan. Now, instead of dealing with the real problems of AIDS, leprosy, poverty, and the Darfur conflict, these people can fill their heads with urban legends about witchcraft and shrinking penises, as well as the latest American celebrity gossip, and waste their time playing that snake game for hours at a time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.13.190 (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

text: A bit of sleuthing years later and I find out that the Penis-melting Zionist robot combs article was **deleted** (apparently salted) by a user named "A Man in Black", who was later permabanned from Wikipedia in 2009 for canvassing. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudan 

message: I'd like to propose a vote to change the article name to Genital Retraction Syndrome, as the current article title seems both unencyclopedic and rather suggestive. I thought that this had something to do with porn at first. Also, Koro may have some extra factors going into it, but as mentioned here, the other factors could be included or Koro could even have it's own article.Merechriolus (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote to rename to Genital Retraction Syndrome 

message: * Change for the reasons I mentioned above.
* Change since it's more neutral. Change 'Penis panic' to a redirect. KellenT 21:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Change

message: http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2319603620080423?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews&rpc=22&sp=true  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.232.106.75 (talk) 05:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Penis Panic is mentioned in William S. Burroughs novel "Naked Lunch"
Zedd in Terry Goodkind's novel "Wizard's First Rule" scares an angry mob by pretending to magic away their penises. Occamsrazorwit (talk) 08:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penis Panic in popular media 

message: The vast majority of the literature talks about Koro solely related to the penis... but there is a little bit of discussion on women, though it is rare.  So, I added a differential diagnosis section, but there was basically no literature on women that I could find.  Everything was about men & urological issues.  Sometimes, women are mentioned in a sentence - but then never again in the article.  So, I added the heading "differential diagnosis and assessment males" - and then the "Exam" is for men.  The exam for women is unknown - I couldn't find it published anywhere.  I tried 2 headings before this - but I think this one is good.  Still, if anyone has ideas for better headings and subheadings, please feel free to write them here.  I changed the "medicine" section to "treatment" to be consistent w/ other medical articles.  Also, there is no "medicine" - which sort of implies some kind of pharmaceutical...and none were mentioned in the Koro literature (though there are numerous drugs mentioned in the BDD literature). So, I just changed it to treatment with the subhead changed to therapy so it wasn't redundant.  Again, if you have a better idea for this area - you can post here first or you can just edit it directly if you think it's logical. Thanks. 
If you want to help with citation formats, I would appreciate it too.Angelatomato (talk) 03:27, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Differential diagnosis is sufficient. One can discuss the particulars in a single section with a single sentence for women. Also please use secondary sources and most of the ones being used are not. (see WP:MEDRS). Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headings, Subheadings, and Citation Formats 

message: It is introduced as a culture-specific syndrome, and then in the next sentence the introduction talks about how it occurs worldwide. This is contradictory and confusing. Please revise.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:4900:168:863A:4BFF:FE75:6EB4 (talk) 06:26, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing introduction 

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replies: text: Koro (medicine) →  – Most Wikipedia pages say "disease" instead of "medicine". 162.83.141.156 (talk) 00:05, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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