Talk:Hayley Atwell

message: I noticed this article has been receiving constant edit reverts from an IP editor who for some reason is insistent that the
article has nothing to do with U.S despite the fact many sources state her father is American and she has Dual UK-US Citizenship.
This needs to be dealt with. Mcs2050wiki (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constant edit reverts 

message: Following this edit I checked the references: the article text is verified. This isn't an edit war: it's repeat vandalism and a WP:block seems justified. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Duplicated references: this needs a fix at some stage, but meanwhile it may be useful to have the online version as well as the print, so readers can see for themselves that the citation is valid. --Old Moonraker (talk) 14:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Five reverts and the legal threats raised at WP:ANEW. --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The IP editor given a month off in which to relax—now combining the duplicate references. --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:56, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Keeps coming back, albeit with no legal threats this time. This is strongly sourced, and not particularly controversial—there is certainly no reason to call it "antiAmerican" and "hate content".  I can't identify any common factor to the edits, so is there perhaps  some off-wiki campaign somewhere to  get this removed?--Old Moonraker (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeat vandalism 

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message: WHY HAS HER CITIZENSHIP BEEN HIGHLIGHTED?
SURELY IF SHE IS ENGLISH, BORN IN ENGLAND, TELLING US HER PARENTS ARE ENGLISH AND SHE IS A BRITISH CITIZEN IS VERY MUCH OVERKILL  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.82.151 (talk) 10:17, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreeing, but it is essential  that the references are reported accurately (see WP:BLP for more on this). A RV to the referenced version. --Old Moonraker (talk) 11:02, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SHES ENGLISH. OK. 

message: In This Interview In Last Segment She Says She Is And Feels Half American http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/8634279/Action-girl-Hayley-Atwell-interview.html So Please Admin Do Not Change Her Correct nationality which is American-english  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.193.169 (talk) 00:33, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: she is Half American Too

message: i gave two links above and still someone is messing with the Article please do something  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.213.163 (talk) 16:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: admin she is American-english not english

message: You can't call her 'American-English' for two very good reasons, one is that an 'American-English' person is an American national descended from English stock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_American who wasn't born in the UK and Hayley was, and two, she was born in England which makes her nationality English with American dual citizenship. Twobells (talk) 21:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, the actress actually is an American national and descends from English, as everyone on Earth descends from their mothers. Second of all, if you follow existing nomenclature, it would rather be the 'English-American' person (commonly known as 'Anglo-American') that would be equivalent to Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Afro-Americans and so forth. Remember to keep your adjectivized nouns in front of your objects. ;) -- 92.230.223.242 (talk) 10:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Also, for next time, if you want to make an edit to a semi-protected page you only need to use the  template, not the  template. Best — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 10:18, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template.  Don't ask again until you get consenus, please.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:19, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry - I just realised - you maybe didn't understand that the WP:CONSENSUS page people keep telling you about is a link. You can just click on the blue words to take you to a page that explains all about consensus - which is what you would need to get this changed. Your quotation is lovely, and speaks to her parentage - but the article already covers that, in the "Early Life" section - rather well and thoroughly, I think. Good luck. Begoon talk 15:23, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

text: . Read above. You need consensus first. Don't use  unless you have consensus first. gwickwire | Leave a message 00:35, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality Doesn't Read Correctly 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror_(TV_series) she is starting in season 2 episode 1 as martha  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.243.156 (talk) 01:19, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black mirror 

message: Several online sources are also claiming that she appears as Carter in Ant-Man, too, though I haven't found a verifiable source. Just putting this here in case someone has access to one. (And no, IMDb doesn't count.) 68.146.52.234 (talk) 17:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Peggy appearances

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message: A short while ago, I made this edit, which was reverted minutes later. There are two (related) issues with this:
* The infobox describes Atwell as having "British-American" citizenship. However, "British-American" is not a citizenship; there is no country called "British-America". Atwell is a citizen of the UK and, separately, the US. So her citizenship is properly described as "British and American". ("American and British" would also be technically accurate.) This change should be non-controversial.
* The lead describes Atwell as "a British American actress". This is inaccurate per that link: a "British American" person is an American of British ancestry. Atwell is British born and raised, with annual visits during her youth to see her estranged, American father. This clearly doesn't fit the meaning of "British American" at all, as described on that page.
Finding the best terminology here is not so obvious. My edit changed both sections to "British and American" and in my opinion it's fairly straightforward to make a case for that: it makes sense for "British" to come first as that reflects her birthplace and upbringing; it makes sense for "American" to be present, too, as it reflects her half-American parentage; and it makes sense for "British" and "American" to stand separately as that reflects the fact that she is, separately, a British citizen and an American citizen.
There may well be a better way of handling this, so I invite comment on this issue. In the meantime, since "British-American" and "British American" are objectively not correct - whether from a citizenship or a cultural perspective (per British American) - I'm reverting back to "British and American" for now. Please do not simply revert back. Instead, join the discussion and let's try to reach WP:CONSENSUS on this. Thanks. -- Hux (talk) 03:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

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message: i think her image should be replaced with either the File:HVFFLondon2017Cap-ALS-29 (35183142201) Cropped.jpg , or File:HVFFLondon2017Cap-ALS-26 (34469694534).jpg . both are more recent profiles. thoughts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miadaisies (talk • contribs) 05:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  portrait photograph 

message: Is it possible to change to British-American from British and American given that she has dual citizenship? FireDragonValo (talk) 19:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In this case, I think it would be okay because she has a British mother and an American father. I don't think it works if based solely on citizenship, eg if someone is British and then as with many actors subsequently obtains US citizenship by work/residence - such a person is is just British with an additional passport resulting from dual citizenship. Sbishop (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

text: See the above discussion about why British-American is incorrect. That would imply that she is an American of British decent (as in Italian-American or Mexican-American). British and American properly identifies her as a citizen of both countries. Rcarter555 (talk) 08:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  British-American 

message: I removed the references to her Irish and Native American descent here because MOS:ETHNICITY states that the degree to which one's ethnicity is in the article is based on whether it's relevant to their notability or "of defining importance."
She has dual-citizenship so English and American are left in.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish and Native American descent