Talk:Cham language

message: I added two new section ("Dialectal differences" and "Grammar") based on Aymonier's "Grammaire de la langue chame". This book is rather outdated (1889), and the transcription can undoubtedly be improved upon, but as it's the only reference I have been able to lay my hands on so far, this is the best I could do. Whatever the shortcomings, at least we have much more information now than before. Any further amplification/correcting is, of course, more than welcome. MuDavid (talk) 11:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Added two sections

message: Nouvelles recherches sur les Chams
https://archive.org/details/nouvellesrecher00cabagoog
Rajmaan (talk) 08:20, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nouvelles recherches sur les Chams (1901) 

message: A Preliminary Sketch of Phan Rang Cham
The Austronesian Languages of Asia and Madagascar
Graham Thurgood California State University, Chico
http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/Papers/cham_mar1.pdf
04:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Preliminary Sketch of Phan Rang Cham The Austronesian Languages of Asia and Madagascar Graham Thurgood California State University, Chico 

message: http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~mbrunell/Eastern%20Cham%20register.pdf
04:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  REGISTER IN EASTERN CHAM: PHONOLOGICAL, PHONETIC AND SOCIOLINGUISTIC APPROACHES by Marc Brunelle August 2005

message: Thurgood, Graham" Crawfurd s 1822 Malay of Champa
http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/Papers/Crawfurd's%20Champa%20Malay.pdf
http://books.google.com/books?id=B1djAAAAMAAJ&q=Thurgood,+Graham%22+Crawfurd+s+1822+Malay+of+Champa&dq=Thurgood,+Graham%22+Crawfurd+s+1822+Malay+of+Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q3tDU9QQ7oDZBa3HgZgH&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA
http://books.google.com/books?id=MBGYb84A7SAC&pg=PA387&lpg=PA387&dq=Research+on+champa+and+its+evolution+Pierre+bernard+lafont&source=bl&ots=wN3K-vYmwF&sig=wX0oON5whN4-gaV-_Z9tSIhXA3o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y3lDU63jD6aE2wW-uoGgAw&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Research%20on%20champa%20and%20its%20evolution%20Pierre%20bernard%20lafont&f=false
John Crawfurd
Journal of an embassy to the courts of Siam and Cochin China (1822)
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Journal_of_an_embassy_to_the_courts_of_S.html?id=YcsBAAAAMAAJ
http://books.google.com/books/about/Journal_of_an_embassy_to_the_courts_of_S.html?id=YcsBAAAAMAAJ
Grammar and dictionary of the Malay language; with a preliminary dissertation (1852)
http://books.google.com/books?id=b39FAQAAIAAJ&pg=PR130&dq=According+to+the+specimen+given+to+me,+the+Malay+words+in+the+Champa+language+are+considerably+altered+in+form,+and+in+some+cases+mutilated,+as+will+be+seen+by+the+following+few+examples+:+—+Traces+of+a+Malayan+language+are+to+be+found+...&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xn9DU9-oGYmayQHz54DwDQ&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=According%20to%20the%20specimen%20given%20to%20me%2C%20the%20Malay%20words%20in%20the%20Champa%20language%20are%20considerably%20altered%20in%20form%2C%20and%20in%20some%20cases%20mutilated%2C%20as%20will%20be%20seen%20by%20the%20following%20few%20examples%20%3A%20—%20Traces%20of%20a%20Malayan%20language%20are%20to%20be%20found%20...&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=N65FAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR130&dq=According+to+the+specimen+given+to+me,+the+Malay+words+in+the+Champa+language+are+considerably+altered+in+form,+and+in+some+cases+mutilated,+as+will+be+seen+by+the+following+few+examples+:+—+Traces+of+a+Malayan+language+are+to+be+found+...&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xn9DU9-oGYmayQHz54DwDQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=According%20to%20the%20specimen%20given%20to%20me%2C%20the%20Malay%20words%20in%20the%20Champa%20language%20are%20considerably%20altered%20in%20form%2C%20and%20in%20some%20cases%20mutilated%2C%20as%20will%20be%20seen%20by%20the%20following%20few%20examples%20%3A%20—%20Traces%20of%20a%20Malayan%20language%20are%20to%20be%20found%20...&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Pq5FAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22John+Crawfurd%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XH9DU5ymHIWT2QXq3YGgBA&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=b39FAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22John+Crawfurd%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XH9DU5ymHIWT2QXq3YGgBA&ved=0CE4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=N65FAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR129&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=b39FAQAAIAAJ&pg=PR129&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=5XgqAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA718&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CFwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=3lZXGVuni0MC&pg=PA112&dq=John+Crawfurd+1822+Malay+of+Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_ntDU-uFFoXo2QXv64HQBg&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%201822%20Malay%20of%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=QMcxLAhoj-QC&pg=PA308&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=izFSAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA308&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=0wgOAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA462&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=MI7pAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA66&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=4NowAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA229&dq=John+Crawfurd++Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VH1DU83dHqGK2gWu54EY&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=John%20Crawfurd%20%20Champa&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 04:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Crawfurd's 1822 "Malay of Champa" 

message: http://csuchico.academia.edu/GrahamThurgood
http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/GWT%20CV%20SEA.doc
http://www.academia.edu/2875723/Crawfurd_s_1822_Malay_of_Champa
http://www.academia.edu/4162111/Long-term_bilingualism_and_Cham_linguistic_structures
http://www.academia.edu/2875814/The_Austronesian_and_Mon-Khmer_components_in_the_proto-Chamic_vowel_system
http://www.academia.edu/2875807/Learnability_and_direction_of_convergence_in_Cham_the_effects_of_long-term_contact_on_linguistic_structures
http://www.academia.edu/2875757/The_grammaticalization_paths_of_Proto-Chamic_hu_receive
https://www.academia.edu/2875849/Hainan_Cham_Anong_and_Eastern_Cham_Three_Languages_Three_Social_Contexts_Three_Patterns_of_Change
Haroi language
http://www.academia.edu/2875764/Restructured_register_in_Haroi_Reconstructing_its_historical_origins
http://www.academia.edu/2875672/HRE_CONTACT_AND_THE_ORIGINS_OF_THE_HAROI_RESTRUCTURED_REGISTER_SYSTEM_A_CASE_OF_SHARED_SOUND_CHANGES1
Tsat language
http://www.academia.edu/2875740/From_Malayic_to_Sinitic_The_Restructuring_of_Tsat_under_Intense_Contact
http://www.academia.edu/2875716/Hainan_Cham_and_the_Chamic_noun_classifiers_New_data_on_an_old_system
http://www.academia.edu/2875693/From_atonal_to_tonal_in_Utsat_a_Chamic_language_of_Hainan_
Acehnese language
http://www.academia.edu/2875654/The_historical_place_of_Acehnese_the_known_and_the_unknown
Rajmaan (talk) 18:17, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graham Thurgood on Cham 

message: http://www.ling.hawaii.edu/ldtc/languages/cham/
http://www.ling.hawaii.edu/ldtc/languages/champa/
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3622964?
Malay and Cham Possession Compared
Natalia F. Alieva
Oceanic Linguistics
Vol. 31, No. 1 (Summer, 1992), pp. 13-21
Published by: University of Hawai'i Press
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3622964
Page Count: 9
Rajmaan (talk) 02:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Hanlin_Academy#Foreign_language_vocabularies
http://books.google.com/books?id=dxwiAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA398#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.jstor.org/stable/607926?
A Chinese Vocabulary of Cham Words and Phrases E. D. Edwards and C. O. Blagden Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London Vol. 10, No. 1 (1939), pp. 53-91 Published by: Cambridge University Press on behalf of the School of Oriental and African Studies Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/607926 Page Count: 39
Front Matter Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London Vol. 10, No. 1 (1939) Published by: Cambridge University Press on behalf of the School of Oriental and African Studies Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/607920 Page Count: 2
Rajmaan (talk) 01:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ming dynasty Chinese-Cham vocabulary list 

message: Most of the information is coming from the one source Aymonier 1889 and the two dictionary links at the end of the article have yet to be cited.  If a credible source could be found, expanding on the language's history would be nice.  Dylanmk (talk) 06:03, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: It's very hard to relate the vowels described in  to those, used in most other sections of the article, which seem to reflect the vowel system of Vietnam, Cambodia or (possibly) France.   - can you shed any light on what system they do use?  yoyo (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Transcription of Vowels