Talk:Industrial metal

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replies: text: This file has been deleted, and also from industrial music, where it was originally posted. Aryder779 (talk) 23:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: * Alec Empire of Atari Teenage Riot critizing Rammstein for their "Stripped" video, which uses scenes from Olympia, directed by official Third Reich documentarist Leni Riefenstahl: .
* An article written by Marilyn Manson (and published by Rolling Stone magazine), where he adresses the accusations which led him to be the Columbine Massacre scapegoat: .
* KMFDM and Rammstein speaking out about Columbine: .
Musicaindustrial (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's good stuff, especially the Alec Empire/Rammstein disagreement. Aryder779 (talk) 16:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible additions to the "Controversy" section 

message: I've just filled out the refs, except for the statement about Mike Scaccia. This allmusic bio  partly does the trick, but doesn't support the information about Scaccia being surprised by the offer. If necessary, that clause can be deleted. Aryder779 (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure I've read this somewhere on one of my old Alternative Press (or was it B-Side?) magazines. But if I can't find this source in time, go ahead and delete that part of the phrase... It's the right thing to do! Musicaindustrial (talk) 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is all the necessary editing done? I could give a heads-up to Daniel Case, so we could wrap up the review process. Musicaindustrial (talk) 21:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think it's all been taken care of. Aryder779 (talk) 15:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article status 

message: I find it completely disrespectful that the 'industrial black metal' headline was gotten rid of. It is understandable that a more collective 'extreme industrial metal' headline was put in, but the fact of the matter is that there was no mention in there of 'industrial black metal' in any form.
Jotsko (talk) 05:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What are your suggestions? Musicaindustrial (talk) 02:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Industrial black metal is now covered at European industrial metal, and mentioned briefly in that section of this page. No disrespect is intended at all; I really like industrial black metal. There are length concerns as industrial metal is a pretty big field, so it can be difficult to organize these things. Hope you understand. The "extreme industrial metal" section covers an earlier period and perhaps will eventually be retitled "industrial death metal." - Aryder779. 67.191.153.112 (talk) 15:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Regards to "Industrial Black Metal" 

message: These two artists need to be introduced in either the "early innovators" or "commercial rise" sections. As it is, they suddenly turn up in the "film and video" section, before they've been introduced as famous and popular industrial metal groups. I will probably do this myself in the near future. Aryder779 (talk) 22:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I've got some mid to late 1990s White Zombie/Rob Zombie magazine articles that could be put to good use. Musicaindustrial (talk) 07:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: White Zombie and Marilyn Manson

message: I'm beginning to realize that this section could potentially go on forever, and is kind of inconsequential. Musicians who have collaborated with or name-checked industrial metal acts include David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper, Rob Halford, Adrian Belew, R.E.M., Slash, Shelter, Tori Amos, Eminem, DMX, Josh Wink, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Fiona Apple, Timbaland, Aaliyah (apparently), Gibby Haynes, GWAR, Cirque du Soleil, Richard Cheese, Weird Al Yankovic, etc. etc.
It's kind of interesting in itself that industrial metal's popularity became so widespread, but I think the section will eventually have to be spun off into its own page, or, conceivably, deleted, as it has a kind of "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" quality.
Of course, I wrote much of this section, and take responsibility for its somewhat trivial nature. Aryder779 (talk) 15:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly delete any and all references to people that have name-checked industrial acts as trivial, probably also individual collaborations. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 16:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crossover with other genres 

message: I've been trying to read Wikipedia documents lately to see what would be necessary to get this to featured article status. The closest comparable article to have reached this is Grunge music, near as I can tell; heavy metal music and punk rock are also both featured articles. In the past, it seemed most necessary to collect information here and gather sources; now I think it's mainly a matter of determining priorities. For example, I've been cutting out much of the "crossover" section because it seemed anecdotal and unhelpful, and expanding the "controversy" section, because that seemed more newsworthy or important to a general reader.
I welcome any suggestions or criticisms of any the things I choose to emphasize or de-emphasize here. One thing that makes this article tricky is that there aren't many recent sources on "industrial metal" as a whole, but lots of sources on Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, and Justin Broadrick, in particular. Aryder779 (talk) 15:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured article

message: This is a good article but I want to ask if someone could do one thing for me. I'd like to read the articles cited 15-18, but they are not very clearly defined in the reference section, I can't find them anywhere with that information. Can anyone make clearer references to these sources?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.26.146 (talk) 18:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you look at the bibliography, where the full information for each article is included? I'm sorry if you already looked there, but I don't think the citation system is confusing. Aryder779 (talk) 02:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sources 

message: cyber metal redirects to this article (from articles of bands that are listed as being "cyber metal" yet no explanation or mention of what cyber exists in this article. Care to fix this? (I'm really wondering what it is. Supposedly bands such as The Kovenant and ...And Oceans are cyber metal)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.228.83.203 (talk) 03:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The term appears to be vaguely defined. See Talk:European industrial metal#Cyber metal?. Aryder779 (talk) 19:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: cyber metal

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message: Industrial death metal, industrial thrash metal, industrial black metal, and digital hardcore are fusion genres of industrial metal, according to their sections/pages. Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 12:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fusion genres 

message: I suggest a new section after “Commercial rise” called “Industrial Metal today” as the history just sort of stops abruptly at the early 2000s and doesn’t discuss the directions the genre has taken since then (including the 2010s resurgence with artists like 3TEETH, Lindemann, Combichrist).— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:be66:400:edc9:7cde:e48c:7b32 (talk • contribs) 07:38, November 24, 2019 (UTC)
:We would need some sources that discuss the changes in the genre over that time. Not just individual artists, but the genre overall. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 15:42, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Industrial Metal today

message: There should be a way to rephrase this so that it doesn't invite people to add their favorite band to the list.  This seems to be sourced content (I haven't looked through the sources to make sure all those bands are listed), but maybe what we should do is say why they're being called prominent – is it because they've all had best-selling albums? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:40, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Prominent bands include..." 

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