Talk:Pontiac Firebird

message: Added footnote reference functionality into the article. We should definitely be using this a lot more in the future to keep things organized starting with all of the info in the article that needs sources. I've tagged some of it already with the  tag. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes. Roguegeek 06:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote References 

message: I found an error on the page, but I really don't want to change someone else's work (fine work too).  I owned a 1991 GTA with a 5.7L engine, the LT1.  You could not get the 5.7L with a manual transmission OR T-Tops, but the engine was available with all other options for 1991.  I don't know if the same was available for '90 or '92, but I'm sure someone out there knows the answer for that.  I don't believe there were a lot of 5.7L GTAs made in 1991, as I have only seen one other one.  I also don't know the horsepower rating for the 5.7L, which is another reason why I didn't change the original entry.
Anyway, thanks to the original writer for all the great information on this page.
-baron_iv
*The LT1 used in 4th gen cars was not available in 1991.  There was another engine known as the LT1, but it was a standard GM engine without the reverse cooling.  The current LT1 was first made available in 1992 in the Chevrolet Corvette.  I don't know if you bought your car used, but if so dropping an LT1 into a third-gen car is actually a fairly common mod.  Hope this helps.
Gelbza (talk) 14:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1991 GTA Engine 

message: "From 1969 to 1970 Pontiac had the Ram Air V which was Pontiac's quickest motor. It was rated at around 375hp, and was only available as an after-market engine." If it's only available as an after-market engine then why is it mentioned? --Gbleem 03:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ram Air V 

message: I know my 1998 Pontiac Trans Am w/ Ram Air has a WS6 Engine. No where in the article is the ws6 engine stated. It makes around 350hp. Can somebody add this in? I would but I'm really busy, just on coffee break.
70.120.94.117 23:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ws6 package is a manual (6 speed) ram air trans am. The ws6 also has a slightly modified rear bumper and factory stock was equipped with a 4:10 positive tracktion rear end.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.66.78 (talk) 13:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WS6 Engine 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Burt Reynolds Edition Trans Am.jpg

message: Just a minor thing, but the car in Knight Rider 2000 was a heavily modified Dodge Stealth. It was made to look more like the Banshee concept, as it was their goal to have that car, but GM apparently wouldn't give it up. The last part is rumor on a few web sites, but the fact that it was not a Banshee or a Trans Am is quite true. --oZ (talk) 05:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knight Rider 2000 

message: I just want to know if there is any news about a future trans am...????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.141.215 (talk) 07:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone came along recently and added a blurb about a fifth-gen trans am.  Unless you can reference a reliable news story or other solid source, please DO NOT add any rumors or other hearsay about a future Firebird to this article.  GM has stated repeatedly that there will be no future Firebird built on the new Camaro platform.  Until they publicly change that stance, all such rumors will be removed by me.  Highonhendrix (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future Trans Am? 

message: Someone with more time than I should make separate pages for each generation like the Camaro and Mustang pages.Zerotta (talk) 16:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not completely sure, but there may have been one in the past (as well as a separate page for Trans Am), but some merge-nazi came along and fused it into the main page.  You should check the page history and see if it's there and if you can bring it back (if I'm not delusional again). Highonhendrix (talk) 08:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a separate Trans Am page which I merged about six months ago.  A proposal had been made to merge the two (with no dissenting opinions), and the vast majority of info was duplicated anyways.  As for having separate pages, I think it would probably just be more confusing.  The more pages on a subject the less reliable the search engine becomes, and the harder for others to find info. Gelbza (talk) 13:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that it should be done to clean up this article and links to each generation should be provided. Simply format it similar to the Camaro article. Retromaniac (talk) 21:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Hi all, I plan to do this during the next while. :) Leedeth (talk) 08:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I think only one generation needs to be split off so I'll go ahead and do that. Leedeth (talk) 08:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I finished the move, enjoy. Leedeth (talk) 09:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  separate pages for each gen 

message: I am the proud owner of a 1995 Pontiac Trans Am. I was wondering where you got the information that this year of car has 310 horsepower because everywhere else i read says just 275.  My car has the Transmission Perform button and everything.
Answer: I own a trans am with 310hp.When I bought it from the dealer.They offered a performance package in which they modified the computer settings for it to perform as if it were "Ram Air" it costed 3500$ at the time.Also upped the revs.With the button on.It revved 7000. My Friend owns a Trans am that is 275hp. Mine is significantly faster and was able to beat his by a car lenght. minimum.But I don't know about the 340hp??? any1 there to help??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.139.202 (talk) 22:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  310 horsepower in the 1995 Trans Am 

message: I don't know what range of years it appeared in the Firebird, but I owned a 1977 Firebird Esprit. The standard engine for the year and model was a V6, but there was a dealer and factor option for a V8 engine. This option engine for the 1977 Firebird Esprit was in fact, the Oldsmobile 350, with the Rochester Quadra-jet.
The engine code was RPO: R in the registration. It was quite the performer for high speed, although a dog for acceleration. It had a Turbohydromatic 350 transmission and a 2.41 rear end, all factor stock.
I am new to Wiki, and signed on just to try to get this added. I'm not sure what needs to be done, maybe someone can properly verify this.
Felicitator (talk) 15:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olds 350 used in 1977 Firebird 

message: There's no mention of the rare Skybird, Yellowbird and Redbird esprit packages. Just thought I'd through that out there as something to possibly add down the line.
Nkatsinas (talk) 01:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had a transam with a 454 olds  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.147.98 (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Esprit Special Editions?? 

message: Should this section be a section under the Trans Am section instead of being its own major section?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yetasoli (talk • contribs) 00:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This model is not made of marketed by the original manufacturer. Rather, it is an aftermarket conversion. It appears to be more in the form of spam. Therefore, this section should not be included in this article. CZmarlin (talk) 21:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burt Reynolds Edition Trans Am (2007) 

message: Please note that in 1981 there was a 265cid engine offered with an automatic.
The 265 was used only in 1980 & 1981 per http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=pontiac+engine
17:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1981 pontiac engines 

message: Has anyone heard of this kind of firebird?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.32.32.166 (talk) 06:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  snowflake firebird  

message: how many 1996 trans am conv were made. with white body white leather interior and white conv top  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdspaint (talk • contribs) 16:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1996 pontiac firebird trans am  conv 

message: I have a 1981 firebird, base model 
it has the 267 motor in it.
But it's not documented anywhere?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.133.120 (talk) 03:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1981 Firebird 

message: Need information on the 2002 Pontiac Firebird TransAm WS6 Collector Edition ("Collector Edition Trans Am"; CETA)72.68.71.82 (talk) 12:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2002 Pontiac Firebird TransAm WS6 Collector Edition 

message: I cleaned up a bit this article; moved engine data to tables because it was completely unreadable, but this info is still unsourced and there's not hp/torque info. I think that Trans Am could be moved to separate article, like it's done with Mustang Mach 1.
SHAMAN 19:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engines, Trans Am 

message: IF the first firebird was introduced in 1967 then why is the 1994 the 25th aniversarry??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.127.241.45 (talk) 15:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline confusion??? 

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message: There are so many more photos in this article than I have ever seen in any car article. But there is not a single photo of the rear end of the car. Is it so horrible that no owners want to post a photo or something? 122.59.225.50 (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rear photos 

message: The 215 net hp 455ci single exhaust would not be available in the 1974 Firebird.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.133.163 (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  455ci single exhaust 

message: No mention of the transmissions in the first model years '67-'68,  Muncie 4 speed, etc. Thanks. dcebr 10:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  '67-'68 Firebird transmission 

message: These pictures:  and thumb|right|1972 Pontiac Trans Am seem to me to depict the same car. It looks exactly the same, and the photos are both taken in French Canada about five-six years ago, less than two years apart. There can't have been that many mint-condition forty-year-old Firebird Trans Ams with identical paint schemes up there at that time, can there?
So if they are the same vehicle, the model year stated must be wrong in (at least) one of the pictures. I was going to post on the talk page of the user who'd uploaded them, since the same guy had taken them both, but it turned out he has been banned for years. Presumably for other reasons; I doubt getting the model year wrong on a picture of a car is a bannable offense, but I didn't investigate further. (OK, from what little I glanced at his Talk page, it seems "original research" was involved.) Anyway, he doesn't seem to be in a position to correct this, so should someone else?
Not me, I'm afraid; I have no idea which of the years is the right one. But surely someone here knows?--CRConrad (talk) 19:11, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small model year error in photos? 

message: This article doesn't have any information on Firebird with Sports top. there is very little information about them and most people don't even know what a sports top is.  A sports top is a vinyl top. I only knows because I personally have a 1976 Firebird Esprit with a sports top. To the best of my knowledge they only came out in, '78, '74, and the late model '76. if someone could fine more information about this I would love to read it, and it definitely should at least be mentioned in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:1:C000:1:30BD:408:702C:A018 (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Firebirds with a Sports Top 

message: I noticed that there are repeated images in the Trans Am section. Is that ok?--WMrapids (talk) 01:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeated images

message: a Trans Am modified by Polly Motorsport held the record for the fastest street legal car in Europe before the Veyron Super Sport was introduced, shouldn't it be mentioned here? It beat the original Veyron speed record thanks to its 1407 HP engine.
Their website: http://www.pollymotorsport.no/?mapping=2&lang=en  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.57.60.116 (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically if its "notable" enough to be published in a reliable source, then we can add it. If not, Wikipedia kind of feels it isnt important enough to make note of. MaximusEditor (talk) 08:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polly Trans Am 

message: No context at all why the car was discontinued in 2002, and if had successors since then -- at least indircect ones, "spiritual". 93.185.27.19 (talk) 12:18, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article STILL is incomplete 

message: It is incorrect to refer to any Pontiac V8 engine as a ‘big block.’  Pontiac offered many sizes of V8s from 1955 through the late 1970s, but unlike some brands such as Chevrolet and Ford (which had multiple sized casting molds for their engine blocks), Pontiac only ever had one basic casting used for all displacements.  While displacement would vary by changing bore and stroke, the Pontiac V8 block was always based on the original 1955 architecture regardless of whether it was a 265 cubic inch engine all the way to their 455 cubic inch engine.  You can’t call it a big block if it was the only block available.  https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/inside-the-1955-pontiac-v8/  https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2019/02/15/is-that-a-big-block-under-the-hood/
Expandinglight5 (talk) 17:19, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Big Block Pontiacs 

message: why do we need article on Pontiac Firebird (third generation) that page has been created and edited since 2008, i believe it should be merged here, it's not notable enough to have its own page like the Chevrolet Camaro. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 13:36, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  This whole article is also hugely unsourced. I don't how much of the third generation is unique or new in that generation that constitutes keeping the article. If you think it needs merged then post a merge tag and i'll take part in the discussion. scope_creepTalk 13:47, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no opinion on this. Merely that if you are going to copy content from one wikipedia article to another that you must provide appropriate attribution (per WP:COPYWITHIN) and make sure you do the job properly, rather than leaving duplicated content behind.Polyamorph (talk) 13:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pontiac Firdbird (3rd gen) 

message: — Assignment last updated by RJSDuke (talk) 16:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Combing the Archive

message: Estimated 2023-equivalent values of the Trans Ams sold by Burt Reynolds at a Florida Barrett-Jackson auction in 2018 surely must reflect incorrect arithmetic. Even considering inflation and other factors, a 2018 figure of $100,000 would not be equivalent to "~$480,810" merely five years later. Robcotnam (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Values of Burt Reynolds' cars sold at auction