Talk:Jeff Kent

message: Kent is no longer a Giant and is hated by Giants fans...can we change the photo? I found a pic of him in a dodger uniform http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2004/sb20041211a1a.jpg ChopAtwa 04:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo

message: The reason for the requested move is that the previous discussion, above, was not completed and therefore should be continued. I asked for suggestions on how agreement for resolution might be reached, but there were no responses. As it is Wikipedia policy for agreements to try to be reached in disputes, this should be attempted.
The key points that the opponents of the requested move need to consider are:
1. As the Jeff Kent and Jeff Kent (author) pages stand, how is a reader supposed to identify which of them refers to Jeff Kent, the campaigner; Jeff Kent, the musician; Jeff Kent, the publisher; Jeff Kent, the academic, etc, which the author is also listed as being? The current situation is not clear to the readers. Changing Jeff Kent to Jeff Kent (baseball player) will help the readers to select the right option.
2. What disadvantage to anyone would the requested move be? It clarifies the baseball player in his primary occupation, but does not elevate the status of the author.
3. Wikipedia policy does not require nor specifically request that there should be a primary topic and therefore the proposed change is in line with Wikipedia policy.
But, in conclusion, I'm asking for suggestions on how agreement for resolution of the requested move might be reached. (Snoobysoo (talk) 12:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The previous discussion was completed because no one supported your position. And frankly, I doubt very many people would really care about all the different occupations of Jeff Kent (author)... and if they do they could figure it out fairly quickly.  Your opinion is against consensus as everyone else who participated in the discussion felt that the resolution should be to keep things as they are.Spanneraol (talk) 12:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

text: The previous discussion was clearly not completed. You are saying that might is right, that arguments are won by numerical advantage. Wikipedia laments that most disputes are often won by weight of numbers and not on merit. Why is it that you aren't prepared to try to reach some agreed solution? I'm open minded to that, but are you? (Snoobysoo (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussions usually last a week, and that one was closed after a week which is proper. Your solution is that you win the argument... I think things should stay as they are and I feel that your personal connection to the subject makes your opinion of his notability somewhat biased. Spanneraol (talk) 15:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Connection to a subject does not automatically make an outlook/opinion biased, although I agree that it might do. I have done my best to be objective in the discussions on the proposed move, but whether I have succeeded in that is, of course, a matter of opinion.
If several people are having a discussion about different points of view and one person asks the others for suggestions on how they think an agreement might be reached between them, the only way that the discussion has ended there and then is through the other people involved refusing, or being sufficiently disinterested, to attempt to reach an agreement. That's why I attempted this continuing discussion, to ask others to put forward ideas to which we could all agree.
In my opinion, you are not being objective in the discussion. At the end of the last discussion, I asked for suggestions on how an agreement might be reached. I repeated that at the start of this discussion and at the end of my last post, I said, 'I'm open minded [to] . . . some agreed solution'. Your response to that was, 'Your solution is that you win the argument.' That is patently untrue and you are highly subjectively claiming I've said entirely different things than I actually have. Nevertheless, because there are only the two of us still communicating on my move request and you are unwilling to entertain any kind of an agreement, you have made it clear to me that my appeal for an agreement is dead in the water.
Therefore, in conclusion, I'm acceding to the Jeff Kent article remaining under its current heading and not moving elsewhere under a new title. The reasons for this are:
1. No agreement has been reached for a change and therefore it seems right that the status quo should prevail.
2. Because of the very limited number of responses to the request for the page to move, it seems that there is very little interest either way, with this continuing discussion down to two parties only. Therefore the move or otherwise does not seem to be of much importance.
However, I'm very disappointed that there has been little or no discussion of the merits of the specific points I have put forward in support of my requested page move and that there has been no attempt to find an agreed solution. Wikipedia's lament that weight of numbers, and not the merit of cases, tends to decide the outcomes of discussions has proved to be justified in this case, in my opinion. (Snoobysoo (talk) 11:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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message: Jeff Kent is in the San Francisco Giants wall of fame. CHANGE HIS PHOTO TO ONE WITH A GIANTS JERSEYYYYYY Shmaney (talk) 16:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change Jeff Kent Photo