Talk:Georg Solti

message: Most great wikipedia pages have a block on the right under the photo with birth death and calculated age info, I suggest adding it to this page so one doesn't have to search for this info (age) as I just had to.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.47.198.254 (talk) 03:20, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening details

message: We say his original surname was both Stern and Solti.  Which is it??  JackofOz 06:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Question has been answered.  He was born Stern, and his father changed the family name to Solti.  Fixed. JackofOz 02:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: György Stern or György Solti??

message: What is that sole mention of "one" Grammy in "Awards and Recognitions". It is a very well known fact that he is the most awarded person in Grammy's history (38). So, that has to stand out in that section. Nazroon 12:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. I put this in and it was taken out by user Tim Riley as "trivial". Please tell me how on earth anyone can think that Georg Solti's record 31 Grammy Award wins are trivial? This is a record for ANY artist of any medium. He received 74 nominations. The fact that this is the most honored artist in the history of the sound recording industry, as measured by its most significant award -- how is that trivial? Every introduction to a biography of an award-winning actor, for instance, mentions that they won the Oscar, or in the case of an Olivier or Spencer Tracy, how many.William (The Bill) Blackstone (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have explained this on my talk page. The article has been peer reviewed and reviewed again for FAC without any editor's wishing to promote this pleasing but not central distinction to the lead section. Tim riley (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Tim.  Question:  If you still have access to the source, are the special Grammy awards, actually "in addition to" or should that be "including"? Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:24, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The text in Who's Who is "...and 32 Grammy Awards (incl. special Trustees Grammy Award for recording of The Ring Cycle and Grammy      Lifetime Achievement Award)", which I think I've represented accurately in the article, but please see if you agree. Tim riley (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm,  the source used here says 31, but does not indicate what it is counting (perhaps one of the specials is included and one is not there).  Perhaps the safest is for us to go with "32, including" Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:58, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. Tim riley (talk) 14:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards' important omission 

message: The paragraph under "Chicago Symphony", discussing the rise of the ensemble on the world stage is wildly subjective and, I think, an inaccurate portrayal of Solti's contributions.  Reiner was brilliant and talented but – in terms of making the orchestra a household name – he was mostly the primer for Solti to step in and push the group to the fame it achieved.  The paragraph should be rewritten or deleted.Mad Bunny 03:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicago Symphony 

message: Who on earth wrote this line: "According to his last wish, Solti rests in Hungarian soil."? Rests?! I have edited out this ridiculous faux-poetic line. 193.1.104.2 (talk) 13:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wannabee poets

message: :I like infoboxes, they are pretty, summarize info, and format info. Besides in this case, it'd fill in an empty space, at least on my screen.PumpkinSky talk 00:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I support the use of infoboxes as a quick and easy synopsis of facts to an article.  Search engines have developed into the quick blurbs of "here's the skinny", I think in today's world it's a plus to have them. (the infoboxes). — Ched :  ?  02:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Personalities are neither here nor there. (As it happens I spent a whole day recently in the company of PigsontheWing, and have had stimulating email exchanges with two other contributors to the above.) When editing articles on which a consensus exists for an info-box I naturally respect that consensus and don't agitate for the removal of the box. When a consensus exists, as it does for classical musician biographies, that an info-box is unhelpful I of course respect that too, and look to others to do so also. If memory serves, the most recent article I steered through FAC was Alec Douglas-Home, which has a whopper of an info-box, packed with useful facts, though I can't claim credit for it. I shouldn't have dreamt of demanding its removal, still less of arbitrarily blitzing it. The consensus about classical musician biographies pre-dates my involvement, I believe, though it has been confirmed quite recently after a Request for Comment. – Tim riley (talk) 08:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Personalities are neither here nor there" - which makes your "unique to that editor" post - which is both ad hominem and false - all the more ridiculous."When a consensus exists, as it does for classical musician biographies" - there is no such consensus. The RfC on the matter, to which you refer (and which I quoted above), was quite clear on that fact. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a long established consensus about this, Andy. I know consensus can change but I expect that to involve new editors, not the same person who got blocked for a year for trying to push this issue when I first started editing on the project several years back.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is no such consensus. The RfC on the matter, which I quoted above, was quite clear on that fact. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:35, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think that driving away good editors will help the encyclopedia? Is your personal opinion on the value of infoboxes so important that content builders can be hounded to get your way? If you really cared about the encyclopedia, and you felt that infoboxes simply must be on every page, the way to achieve that would be to go away and leave the matter for other editors. Johnuniq (talk) 23:25, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't you do something worthwhile Andy like actually write an article? You come accross as being the sort of person who offers nothing to WP other than to vilify the excellent writers of articles you yourself can only ever dream of writing. -- CassiantoTalk 23:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Andy's done a huge amount of worthwhile work here; certainly more than you have. You bad faith and attacks are inappropriate. You should focus on the infobox issue and not attack those arguing for improvements to this project. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Adding a bloody infobox is not an improvement. If it was it would have got mentioned at FAC and would never have got through the process in its current form. -- CassiantoTalk 00:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  in your opinion ;) nad teh FAC process is *flawed* Br'er Rabbit (talk) 01:29, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Driving away good editors is not improving this project. If there is a need for infoboxes, there will be other editors who will use collaborative discussion to make the case—editors known for spreading conflict do not help. Johnuniq (talk) 03:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  but driving away "bad" editors is... "bad editors" in your opinion, of course. I'm not seeing anyone driven away over this and anyone driven away over the addition of a userbox is likely best gone. The whole argument re morale and the 'good' editors being driven away is a cheat. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 03:49, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Now will you also have the goodness and intellectual honesty to strike that (repeated) "cheat" comment? —MistyMORN 17:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Stop trolling me. Tim was never who I was thinking. You're only inflaming things. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I consider your accusation of trolling a seriouspersonal attack. Please retract. —MistyMORN 18:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please show a little respect for the circumstances and avoid using Tim's departure as a weapon. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Show a little respect"? How dare you! I am not most certainly not "using Tim's departure as a weapon" (another completely unfounded claim). I am deeply saddened and angry and in no mood to accept wild accusations of "trolling". —MistyMORN 18:27, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

text: I've also written plenty of articles. Cassianto's rhetorical question is an ad hominem smear and I invite them to demonstrate good faith by striking it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:51, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

text:  Oh well. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Section break 

message: Nuff said. --ColonelHenry (talk) 15:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? No it doesn't. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs an infobox

message: Solti did not in fact die quietly in his sleep. He was sitting up in his hospital bed talking to his daughter Claudia when he said, "I feel a terrible pain." He then closed his eyes and was gone.
:And your source for this is...? Tim riley talk  15:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solti's death. 

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message: :I just read the article and generally consider it a "good read". I guess if I were to nit-pick it would be that I feel we use subsections for related content and the "Sources" section should in fact be a subsection of "References", considering they point to "references cited". 
:The "External links" could be examined. We seem to be evolving away from ELPOINTS #3, links to avoid, and EL official, and a goal of  minimizing the number of links and avoiding link farming. There is no need to inundate Wikipedia with editor favorites if they in fact don't add to the article. Aside from IMDb, Encyclopædia Britannica seems to be a very needed addition but I am not so sure about that. We are stretching that we don't really need "External links" on better class articles to 8, 9, 10, and even more. Otr500 (talk) 11:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good read 

message: Although he spelled his first name the German way, Georg, I've always heard it pronounced like the English George, i.e. , not the German way . Can his own pronunciation of his first name (after he changed it from György) be confirmed? —Mahāgaja · talk 08:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Oxford BBC Guide to Pronunciation (2006) has . Nardog (talk) 01:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of first name