Talk:Dresiarz

message: I try to keep up with Polish culture, I really do. But I had not heard of the dres before. How much of this article is really true? --EuropracBHIT 00:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All this (admittedly ancedotal) evidence about the existence of the dres makes me feel a little more comfortable with the concept. Why do you think dres tend to bodybuild, whereas a chav may not? Thank you for the points about what sort of music dres seem to listen to. And all of you, get wikipedia accounts, please. If you would like to, that is. I cannot speak to the charge about how they don't respect the environment as I do not remember that being emphasised in the article. --EuropracBHIT 09:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual accuracy of dres

message: (fake brands like Addidas, Nike or ReeBook)
Nike is not a fake brand - it's one of the famous one.
Marooned --65.91.97.66 22:45, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We still have much illegal clothes, especially in the center of our capital, so these guys ("Dresy") buy fake clothes with nike or puma symbol. It's illegal of course, but it's true. Nike-alike jacket cost ~10 zł (2,5 €; 3 $). Original costs about 100 zł (25 € / 33 $). MichuNeo, --87.205.38.6 19:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fake brands 

message: I have removed that part about "dresiarze" as being against Muslims and Black people as unsubstantial and unreferenced. It's a common knowledge that the prominent politicians who ruled People's Republic of Poland between 1944 and 1989 promoted idea that Poland was nationalistically oriented - one nation and one race - inciting hate in citizens toward the other nations and races, and that idea exists to this day. But this is contrary to historical heritage of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which always consisted of as many nations, races and denominations as today is U.S. of A. "Dresiarze" are not the exeption, many of them are of minority descent too. greg park avenue 17:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hate toward minorities propaganda 

message: While I agree with most of the cleanup tags being added to this I don't think "globalize" is appropriate - it's a Polish subculture after all. Definitely needs some referencing though, which would help strip out POV problems anyway.Purgatorio 11:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tags 

message: Commieblocks seem to have limited decay rate, usually stated by expiry date of gas-concrete from which they are built, 
or plainly set by economic timings (paying off loans, finishing production of another human(s)).
This is mainly valid for places where commieblocks were built as cheap housing for mentally disabled or otherwise infatuated individuals
forming specific "Ghettos" 
"Dresy" seems to be one of form of autistic dementia, and contains most characteristics of chronic psychopatia. 
The uniformity of 'culture' is perhaps same similiar to uniformity of pyjamas in loonatics, 
yet we don't call loonatic 'social group' or 'culture'.
Many of "Dresy" die in car accidents, often after periods of drug abuse. 
Hard drug abuse is always taboo, or theme of paranoid ideations among circles of "Dresy"
which could be explained by susceptiblity of autistic population to drug abuse to controll emotions. 
If one adds to picture that "Dresy" persist in infantile phase unable to integrate old age as part of their "culture" it is clearly 
visible that most of article should be re-written, and hypothesis of "Dresy" as phenomenon of culture which (Gross!) has it's origin
in minimalist music should be considered more or less falsified.
High levels of boredom and agression might be related 
with object-oriented, related to "kitch experience" sexuality (part of commerical products choices, thus accepting critique of feelings
without remorse and guilt resulting as conscience impulses and requiring high frustration levels due to need of performing decision)
comorbid with substance abuse, of which consist androgen-hedonistic-gene triggering type, thus lowering oxytocin levels
(cocaine, alcohol, methamphetamines, anabolic steroids, often bodybuilding mixtures)
Frustrated emotionally "Dresy" can be sometimes found roaming across streets , trying to release of their frustration.
To indicate this occurs mainly during crisis of their existence one can point to violation of their attachment to their car,
with which substance abuse greatly interfere , and often lead to law problems. It's unclear if love to car is stronger than 
substance abuse and roaming dresy are forced to roam by foot by anxiety of law , or being already punished by it.
Sometimes expressions are found around places where roaming dresy meet, containing just letters HWDP. what it means is subject 
of research and strong clues indicate it might be somehow related to life of "Dresy" , (certainly is not any band or has no 
communicative meaning (like behaviour of 'tagging', where teritory can be tagged) )
 
"Dresy" usually don't seek psychiatric attention, unable to integrate basic rules of theory of mind. 
Curious666 04:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What does any of this have to do with the Wikipedia article Dres? If this is your personal essay, it has no place on this talk page. Deiz talk 06:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: it contains actual survey data, which suggests points of research and which exposes weak spots in current article.
dresy is certainly real phenomenon - yet not as 'subculture', as they have no ideology.
currently the article is not very informative due to lack of sources, yet knowledge of the phenomenon (which is actually very widespread) can help people who actually encounter them or have to deal with them - thus i've put some survey facts here, in discussion. 
83.18.229.190 (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dresy as urban decay disease 

message: Why there was a Honda Civic in the favourite dresiarze car section? They are known for his love for German cars noted in the article, and I don’t think that Civic, generally unpopular car in Poland (albeit I see a the new model quite often) is often used by dresiarze.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.154.64.67 (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: honda has enormous 'tuning' potential. dresiarze favour 'tuned' cars, especially ones which are cost-effective (cheap to buy , easy to tune, lightweight and with proper 'look'). 83.18.229.190 (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honda Civic 

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