Talk:List of The Incredibles characters

message: Syndrome's section has too much detail.  He has his own article, after all. -Toptomcat 16:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Syndrome

message: Gazerbeam should be merged with Incredible characters.  He was a minor character Huh? What was that noise? 08:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gazerbeam

message: The austrian comedian and entertainer Herbert Feuerstein worked as the german dub voice of Gilbert Huph - with whom he bears a striking optical resemblance - in the German language version of Pixar's "The Incredibles".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.74.159.165 (talk) 23:17, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As opposed to an interferometric resemblance? ;-) Nightscream (talk) 13:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: I've moved the page to Characters from The Incredibles; since the movie is named The Incredibles the article should be capitalized, IMHO.  I'm currently fixing double redirects and adding the newly supported redirects to sections, but would appreciate a second set of eyes to make sure that I have done everything correctly.  Eluchil404 14:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a bad idea, but generally page moves and such need to be discussed beforehand on the Talk page. There is an enormous tempest in a teapot brewing in the Television Wikiproject, where editors are fighting over naming conventions, and some editors are executing page moves without warning. In this case, the change is trivial, but take a look at Template:lowercase as that allows capitalization issues to be addressed without playing the shell game with pages. I'll take a look at your work with my "second set of eyes," but tell me what redirect pages were effected nevermind, I can see that with "links to this page" page. Thanks for putting a note here on the Talk page. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 15:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You're right that I should have asked here first, especially since fixing all the double redirects would be a pain if it was decided that I had been to bold.  It is perhaps worth noting that the original title was my mistake as I over compensated for my tendency to capitalize.  In any event, I am excited by the new capability to redirect to a section which makes links like Gazerbeam much more useful whatever the name of the mainpage.  Eluchil404 12:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Move

message: Just passing through, I thought it was interesting that Bomb Voyage was originally intended to be named Bomb Pérignon, but the Dom Pérignon people would not endorse have a villain named after their product. This was revealed by Brad Bird in the DVD commentary, it may be worth noting in the article. Just a head's up. Annie D 09:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bomb Voyage

message: Okay, I understand the RM of the Frozone trivia, but the other edit I made about the original Incredibles stays, right? SaliereTheFish 19:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The OTHER Incredibles

message: Could it be stated that the Bomb Voyage character could be considered a reference to the Joker from the Batman series? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if you have a credible source to which such an assertion can be attributed. Nightscream (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bomb Voyage parallel... 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Bomb Voyage.png

message: Since there appears to be an edit conflict between myself and Stealth500 over the Edna Mode section, it seems reasonable for me to explain my rationale as to my recent edits.  The following are the aspects of the section I edited:
Edna cares a great deal about the supers who are willing to pay her a huge sum of money for her designs. This is not sourced, as it is a personal interpretation of the editor who placed it in the section.  The character may very well care about the supers, but that is not a major aspect of her character.  If anything, she appears (at least overtly) to be far more self-absorbed than caring.  Any ally or fellow "good guy" can be said to care about them; it's not necessary to specify this. Since the page is already 32 kilobytes long, trimming it down to the essentials would seem reasonable to me.
Naturally, she had to warn Mr. Incredible about the impracticality of capes... She did not "have" to warn him, nor was it "natural", since again, this is the opinion of the editor who wrote this.  Edna opined that she did not like capes for this reason, and chose to express her opinion thus, whereas Mr. Incredible favored capes, so it was her opinion. This is why I edited it to read 
"Edna refuses to design super suits with capes, in light of the [supers killed by them]".
Edna Mode is known for calling everyone Dahling (Darling). She designs the Parr family’s Supersuits, and the suits are designed in mind of the superpowers of each family member. Also one of her famous quotes is “Edna Mode” which is her password to get into her room.
"The Incredibles (2004) - IMDb." The Internet Movie Database (IMDb). Web. 03 Feb. 2012. <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/
...which, prior to the ban on superheroes, led to the deaths of Dynaguy (strangled by his cape while flying with his rocket boosters), Meta-Man (his cape was caught in an elevator shaft while helping an elevator go up), Stratogale (whose cape caused her to get cut to pieces while helping a plane from a tornado and unexpectedly flew in front of the engine) , and Thunderhead (stuck on a missle when stopping a mad scientist from destroying the city) and the disappearance and possible death of Splashdown (whose cape caused him to be choked and sucked into a vortex). This level of detail is not necessary for a section that is on Edna Mode, rather than these other heroes.  I also don't see why Stratogale's flying in front of the airliner was "unexpected".  Again, the page is already giving size warnings, so this should be trimmed.  The cause of these characters' deaths would more appropriate for the section in which they are listed, and not in Edna's. Let's keep the section succinct. Nightscream (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can understand why it is that you would trim it down, however the way you trimmed it here and here makes it look less important. If you would like, you could giev the names and then put all of what happened but in a shorter version. Either that or we would need links to that character in the article, could that work? --Talk to Stealth500 (talk) 18:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Ok, I just did another edit here, tell me if that will work. --Talk to Stealth500 (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Edna Mode edits

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Miarge-incredibles.jpg

message: In the Edit Summary for this edit, Horologium says "Removed statement about resembling Brad Bird; characters tend to resemble the actors who portary them." In fact, both Mr. Incredible and Syndrome were modeled after Brad Bird, as noted in the DVD commentary. While it is true that such characters often are modeled on their voice actors, this is not always true. Whether Incredible resemble Craig T. Nelson is debatable. But Syndrome looks nothing like Jason Lee (except possibly for aspects of his grin). Violet does not look like Sarah Vowell, and Edna Mode certainly looks nothing like Brad Bird. Nightscream (talk) 20:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Character models

message: Now that the Boom! Comic story is finished, shouldn't the two super-villains seen in the story get added? For spoilers' sake, I won't reveal their names, but I think they need to be mentioned. Maetch (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia no longer abstains from including spoilers if the information in question is relevant/salient to the article or section. (In addition, Wikipedia is not censored. So feel free to include that info. Nightscream (talk) 19:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic villains 

message: I think it may be time for a new page pertaining to Boom!'s Incredibles comics. So far, it seems to be shaping up to be an ongoing series, and I can't just keep dumping everything about it onto this page. Comments? Maetch (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic continuity 

message: I come with this proposal to merge the following characters into this article:
*Mr. Incredible
*Elastigirl (The Incredibles)
*Violet Parr
*Dash Parr
*Jack-Jack Parr
*Frozone
*Edna Mode
*Syndrome (The Incredibles)
*Mirage (The Incredibles)
*Omnidroid
because none of this characters have managed to prove notability outside The Incredibles media. With this, I mean that none of them have received deep coverage by reliable secondary sources, independent from the film or video games. Also, none of them have impact in popular culture. Most of these articles are unreferenced and are almost entirely in-universe. Their appearance in just one film and its derived media makes them no more relevant than other Pixar characters such as those from Finding Nemo, Wall E or A Bug's Life who have no articles at all or are just all in a single list. Thoughts? --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Support per nom. SpikeJones (talk) 02:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: "The Incredible Family are the main protagonists of the film."
Protagonist means “the leading character” so it is a tautology to refer to ‘main protagonist’ and it is debatable whether there can be more than one.
See: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/protagonist
...I'm not pedantic, I'm particular ;-)  
--Robertwilliamsau (talk) 07:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Protagonist a Tautology? 

message: Since this page is mainly reiteration of the plot and has no real world content, character design, reception, etc. I propose to merge it into the characters section of the film's article, which already provides a list with descriptions of the characters. The Incredibles characters are no more notable than other Pixar characters like those from Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc., etc. Thoughts? --LoЯd ۞pεth 02:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A week has passed and there is no opposition or improvement of the article, so the merger is being performed. --LoЯd ۞pεth 00:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with merging this. I think this film differs from the examples you give. There are a great deal more secondary characters established in the film and bonus features of the film (not to mention spin off material) in the Incredibles franchise than there are in the other films.  Additionally, a consensus was already reached on this topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_The_Incredibles_characters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.189.6 (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not matter if there are a million secondary characters, none of them have Wikipedia:Notability, that is what matters. The list was not deleted, but merged. The consensus to "keep" was an AfD discussion which is different. The spin-off material indicates nothing, everything is in-universe related and appearances in video games do not mean that the characters have notability. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The expanded Incredibles universe absolutely meets the notability criteria. And as mentioned on your talk page, a signifigant portion of the information was deleted, and that action goes specifically against existing consensus for this article.173.8.189.6 (talk) 22:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Several have, and several more have not. So an argument can be made for culling a portion of those characters. That said, I think that the comprehensive list is a more practical solution than addressing each secondary character individually.Theplanetsaturn (talk) 04:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You should write a draft in a subpage of your userpage to work on a list that proves the notability of the characters. The burden of evidence falls upon you who are edit warring and still do not provide arguments in support of the notability of the characters. Once again, they belong only to one single film, not even a film series. The video games are related to the film, and so are the comics. All of those media is not a secondary source or popular culture. Coverage by reliable secondary sources and impact in popular culture are needed to prove notability. This list is just a retelling of the plot of the film and descriptions of the characters, which goes against Wikipedia:Writing About Fiction and is becoming cruft. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The comic has been met with critical acclaim and the writer of the series was nominated for the comics industries most prestigious award for the series. Yes, it is related to the film, but the same could be said of the Star Wars or Star Trek expanded universe. It's official licensed material rather than merely supplemental as you claim. So we have: original and critically acclaimed and nominated for an award. Notability established. So no... the burden of proof is upon you, particularly as more than one person has reverted your attempt to integrate the article, and questioned your intent. To be clear: I'm not edit warring. I'm reverting the edits you are insisting on that multiple people disagree with. Address this on the talk page rather than inciting reversions through your insistence that your unpopular view must be correct. Theplanetsaturn (talk) 05:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The film, video games, the creators, comics, etc. are notable. I am not saying they are not. However, the characters are not notable. If you were a notable person, would it automatically mean that your family and friends are notable only because you are notable? Not. Avatar is a notable and its video game is notable too, but it does not have a separated list for characters. Same case happens here. Notability is not inherited, a notable subject must be notable himself/herself/themselves, not because of its source is notable. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't entirely disagree with you. I think the page needs work. But I think deleting the information by redirecting it to the main page is overkill.Theplanetsaturn (talk) 05:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge into film article 

message: "Dash also discovers throughout the course of the movie that his speed allows him to be able to run over water without submerging." No he doesn't, he discovers this in one particular scene. Should read "during the course of the movie" or something similar. 2.25.142.97 (talk) 16:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: On a somewhat similar note, in Syndrome's section "His lack of superhuman powers, combined with intelligence and apparently vast resources bear a resemblance to the Fantastic Four villain Doctor Doom." Doom doesn't lack superpowers. Just the opposite in fact, owing to his obscenely powerful magical abilities. Should be changed to something like "reliance on technology" or something. 71.252.138.143 (talk) 02:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  More pedantry 

message: Under the description for Universal Man, the last line ends:
"...a parody of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who won the Mr. Universe title six times."
Arnold Schwarzenegger won the Mr. Universe title four times (in 1967 as an amateur and from 1968-1970 as a professional). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_Championships
Mroozee (talk) 22:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: text has been changed to "multiple times". Pol430 talk to me 20:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 27 March 2012 

message: 67.232.191.2 (talk) 23:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 17:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 19 January 2013 

message: The paragraph describing Elastigirl states "Originally a feminist while single, since her marriage to Bob Helen has become a dedicated spouse and mother, and is frustrated with her husband's continuing dreams of glory." This implies that Elastigirl was originally a feminist, but is no longer so because of her domestic relationships and responsibilities. A feminist is a person who believes that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. Elastigirl as a wife and mother is a strong female character and there is no evidence to support that she is not a feminist. Please omit the "Originally a feminist while single" phrase and leave the rest of the sentence intact to avoid creating an antithetical between being a feminist and having a family: "Since her marriage to Bob, Helen has become a dedicated spouse and mother, and is frustrated with her husband's continuing dreams of glory."
98.111.149.108 (talk) 06:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: I've reworded that section a bit, but I don't think her feminism can be completely removed. I understand your concern, but the movie itself sets up that antithetical pretty well by starting off the movie with her refusing to settle down and then doing exactly that. --ElHef (Meep?) 04:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2013 

message: Is there any particular reason why Jack-Jack is listed under "Allies" and not "The Parr family"? I'm pretty sure it should be the other way around. 72.194.106.64 (talk) 00:59, May 29, 2014
:Apparently it was changed on February 3 by Benja the Beauty Boy, a serial policy violator who has been given numerous warnings for disruptive editing and an indefinite block for sockpuppetry. I fixed it. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack-Jack 

message: Can the pronouns associated with Microburst be changed to "they" instead of the clunky "he/she/"  
67.221.222.67 (talk) 00:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Stickee (talk) 01:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2014 

message: So Bomb Voyage was voiced by Dominique Louis<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast >, someone might want to add that next to his name. -24.211.226.190 (talk) 19:52, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bomb Voyage voice. 

message: Change 10-year-old to 6-year-old. TrishaGaurav1 (talk) 03:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:47, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2017 

message: Helen's friend's name is SNOG* not SNUG*...someone changed it back to Snug after someone tried to correct it to Snog Queen Gaby (talk) 09:14, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snog 

message: The list needs to be updated ASAP, with the new characters featured in The Incredibles 2. GUtt01 (talk) 22:35, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update List with Sequel's new characters 

message: In addition to adding in the rest of the characters from the "Incredibles 2"  (i.e. Voyd, Brick, Hilectic, Reflux, Screech, Krushaur, the Deavors and the Ambassador) might I also suggest adding in characters who were introduced in the Lego video game adaption of the films (Anchor Man, Brainfreeze, Cliffhanger, Dehydra, Diabla, Firebreak, Icebreaker and Zephyr) as well as provide more information for characters such as Fironic who had more information about them revealed in the game. Please do this as soon as possible.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.145.86.247 (talk) 13:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting addition of characters introduced in Lego video game 

message: In the last paragraph of the section Allies -> Frozone, the word 'attempt' is spelled 'attenpt'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knosmos (talk • contribs) 23:35, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, fixed. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:52, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Attempt' spelled wrong 

message: Why doesn't he have his own page? Booger-mike (talk) 12:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. Incredible 

message: Isn’t he one of the main characters? All the Parrs, and Edina, have pages but not him. Theibflame (talk) 19:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why doesn’t Mr. Incredible have his own page?