Talk:Fretless guitar

message: To my knowledge, Dan Briggs from Between The Buried And Me has never used a fretless bass on any of their songs. Can somebody confirm? That's wrong info right there.
Sindwiller (talk) 23:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dan Briggs and fretless?

message: Some months ago I uploaded two pictures on Commons :
Image:Fretless 02.JPG
Image:Flatwound 01.JPG
Feel free to use them. jd 19:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More pics 

message: Is it me, or is this list getting too cumbersome and should either be pared down to a few notable examples or be split off into a separate article? ---- WebHamster 14:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very much so. I posted a cleanup link and immediately removed anyone where they or their band did not have an article. I am not a bassist or a guitarist, but i suggest that to be on the list, the musician must have consistently played fretless. i.e, Geddy Lee using a fretless bass on one instrumental does not make him a notable fretless bass player, just a notable bass player that has played fretless. --Evan Seeds (talk)(contrib.) 23:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: List of fretless players

message: While I agree mostly that the list has become pretty irrelavent, and one track on fretless bass or guitar is not notable, this recent decimation has removed some particularly notable players (eg. Percy Jones and Michael Manring) and historically important players (Bill Wyman).  Please take more care when making such massive changes as often the only way to restore people who deserve to be in the list is by restoring the entire list. Dinobass (talk) 22:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to restore the entire list to add people back.  I'll give you Bill Wyman, who was an oversight, but I still think Victor Wooten, whilst an influential bass player, doesn't belong purely for a few tracks. Thedarxide (talk) 07:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I chose only to restore those I knew to be notable or regular fretless players.  Unfortunately I didn't have time to research any names I didn't already know much about - so I'm fairly sure some players that deserve to be restored haven't been - this is particularly true of the fretless guitar players who were removed eg. Adrian Belew and Nguyen Le - I don't know, and haven't time to research, how much fretless they play. Dinobass (talk) 00:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And as soon as someone says those I knew to be notable it ought to be deleted. Anyone who "doesn't have time" shouldn't waste time doing drive-by ORIGINAL RESEARCH, right? Far better to rebuild the list, one or two entries at a time, than to go fanboy and make all sorts of unfounded claims. I say delete ALL unsubstantiated claims. Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent decimation of noted player list: 

message: This player keeps getting added to and deleted from the players list.  The latest addition being marked as vandalism.  It seems to me that this player has been pioneering fretless guitar for a number of years, including organising fretless guitar festivals, has produced a number or recordings and been interviewed in print media (eg. several interviews in guitar player magazine).  It seems the main reason he keeps getting removed is that he doesn't have a wikipedia page and also there is a suspicion that these are vanity edits.   Given the relatively small number of fretless guitar players, it seems to me he passes all the formal wikipedia notability tests.   Dinobass (talk) 00:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked into it last year and determined that it would be difficult to establish his notability enough for a Wikipedia biography article. If you can prove me wrong by writing one, fine. Binksternet (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  It does seem a bit thin.  But fretless guitar players are pretty unusual.  What do we need?  Guitar player magazine article year/edition?  There are supposed to be at least two articles, but finding them on the guitar player website is proving tricky. Dinobass (talk) 05:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  All I can so far find is a scan of the Guitar Player article, which does little more than mention him by name. http://www.unfretted.com/images/NYC/nyc_fest_gp_dec_05.jpg probably won't put much more effort in.  Dinobass (talk) 00:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't rule out Vick becoming notable in the future. If you see something like a magazine article featuring his life and work... Binksternet (talk) 04:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Vick 

message: Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 17:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional citations

message: an entry in the current article has me rattled. the article says wyman removed the frets because they were rattling, and "this can be heard" on albums. What can be heard, the fretless bass or the rattling? 68.174.97.122 (talk) 18:00, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  bill wyman 

message: Fretless bass is so much more popularly known and considered so much more mainstream or conventional than the fretless guitar which is much more of a separate thing in essence from the fretted guitar than the fretless bass is to one with frets. Meaning it doesn't make sense that the fretless guitar is the page and fretless bass is the subpage. It should be the other way around, or at least a 'fretless instruments' page or category should prominently feature fretless bass, or at least more prominently than the obscure and more radical fretless guitar. (talk) 03:06, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: =reverse this

message: It is asserted at several points in this article that fretless guitars or basses are noticeably quieter than their fretted counterparts.  It is also suggested that this is so extreme that most western fretless instruments are amplified.
This seems contrary to my experience.  I have defretted acoustic guitars and there is not a substantially noticeable difference in volume before and after.  I have also played instruments which are partially fretted and again there is no noticeable drop in volume when playing the fretless portions of the neck.
Certainly there is a sharper attack and often more sustain with the fretted instrument but this is not the same as played volume.  
I am proposing to remove the statements about volume as they appear to have no experimental basis - or at least asking for citations.
Dinobass (talk) 23:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relative volume of fretless vs fretted instruments. 

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message: Maartin Allcock Multi-stringed instrumentalist — Oh, is he now? So exactly how MANY strings are attached to the fellow? And ought I pity or envy him?Weeb Dingle (talk) 05:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no listed users of fretless guitars in the article at all now... certainly Bumblefoot should be mentioned.Jules TH 16 (talk) 20:45, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  the generalized idiocy of WP lists 

message: clams to have been invented in 1976, but guitar types such as steel guitar were fretless for a hundred years. 2.55.189.205 (talk) 10:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  date of invention?