Talk:Target Corporation/Archive 1

message: Seeing that Target Stores is the primary division of Target Corporation (and TGT having shed Marshall Fields and Mervyn's, it may be appropriate to merge this into the Target Corporation page as a section.  Or create a new article called "Target" to replace both Target Corporation and Target Stores, that would include information about the history of Target Corp and a section on the stores it operates?
:I'm personally not overly persuaded here, and don't see  the rationale for this merge.  My biggest concern is that Target Stores is NOT quite the same thing as Target Corporation.  In much the same way that Pepsico is not the same as Pepsi, a holding company which owns several other companies is not identical to the companies it owns.  Perhaps the rationale for the proposed merger could be discussed and presented here?  I would be interested to understand the arguments FOR the merge.  Thanks.  --ABQCat 06:01, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Target Corporation]]? 

message: I think this article should mention Target's "transition period" from a minor retailer in the background to becoming a superpower in the retailing business. At least in America. From what I remember, in the 70s, 80s and early 90s, Target was a sparse unotable store. But then in the mid to late 1990s, Target started a campaign of redesigning their image, stores and introduced clean cut and cleaver commercials. Then in 2001 and 2002 they came to the forefront of the retail business. We need to find a way to neutralize this information and include it. Suso 01:48, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transition period 

message: Hello, I would like to see the Urban Stores section get expanded. Currently, the article mentions Target being flexible with their designs and mentions that there are multi-level stores in urban areas, such as the one in Downtown Minneapolis. However, the article doesn't reflect the appearance of some of these stores from the outside, for those who have seen the flashy ones. I don't know if there are other retailers that do this, but the point that should be made more clearly in this section is that some of these urban stores are designed in appearance to be very different than Target's suburban stores. Here are some examples:
* The Downtown Minneapolis Target store supposedly mentioned in this article, Minneapolis, MN
* Atlantic Terminal Retail Project with Target as a base of a high-rise office building, Brooklyn, NY
* Target Retail Store & Parking Facility, Stamford, CT
I believe there is also a 2-story Target in California that looks flashy, but I can't find an image of it. Is there any way the Urban Stores section can be expanded to reflect that the design of such stores in question are unique, either by describing them or by uploading a free image of such a store? I would like to see an image on here (since I think it's the best way for readers to understand) but I don't live in Minneapolis or Brooklyn, etc. so I can't take a photograph of these buildings. Thanks. 68.226.61.4 06:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  This would be an interesting addition. I've seen a photo album which showed a two-story Target and the special escalator for shopping carts was very neat. -- BrandonR 16:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion: Urban Stores 

message: Can whoever worked on the criticism section back it up with some factual evidence? As it currently is, it just relates Target to Wal-Mart's downfalls and states most of the same problems, which I would argue is simply not true. I was an employee of Target and they offered rather decent benefits and wages despite what the section would lead one to believe.
Bottom line: we need CITES of these practices.  -- BrandonR 17:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Citations added.  Target engages in the same practices that Wal-Mart does. Wikipedianinthehouse 21:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsubstantiated criticism 

message: If anybody's in the mood, the mascot, Bullseye, is becoming more and more popular. That could be another section. Anybody know the breed? -newkai | talk | contribs 05:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, a Bull Terrier of course. Makes sense! -newkai | talk | contribs 05:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bullseye, the Dog 

message: Hello, Newkai just posted on the differentiation section a part about management and Target's team oriented philosophy.  In it, it added a description on "team leaders" as being middle management, and added a part about LODs, or Leaders On Duty.  In my opinion, team leaders do not fit the description of middle management, and LODs do.  Here is a hierarchy of what I view as management in a Target store:
;Team Leaders:Operational management, make sure daily goals are reached, does things like ring liquor for those who aren't old enough, and process REDcard applications
;Executive Team Leaders/Leaders On Duty:Middle management, reports to Store Team Leaders
;Store Team Leaders:Middle management (Senior management maybe???), sets long term goals for the store, decides what needs to be clearanced out I think
;District Team Leaders:Senior management, does long term goal things
etc...anyone else view this differently than I do?  If team leaders are really considered middle management, then I'm not seeing why. 68.226.61.4 20:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose you're right... I was referring to the operations of the stores, not the entire company itself. -newkai | talk | contribs 11:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I think about it, I'm not too sure.  The Wikipedia article for middle management doesn't even reflect how I define it.  I define senior management as making long term plans, middle management as carrying out the wishes of senior management, and operational management as managing day-to-day activities...or this is how I learned it.  Also, does operational management go by another name?  There is no article called that, and I can't find one that reflects what it is.  Perhaps one who knows management better can explain it more.  68.226.61.4 21:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

text: middle management article suggests that there may not be much middle management in a modern company.--Gbleem 21:16, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team leads/LODs, Middle Management/Senior Management 

message: As per Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Target Corporation, I've expanded as much of what was pointed out here as I could so far and I would like to see the rest get expanded so this article can be nominated again. Things that need to be expanded are:
*Target Australia, needs to include a paragraph about the talks about Target buying out Zellers in Canada and then the section needs to be renamed appropriately to reflect some international thing, could also include more similarities between Target stores in the US and these other places (like Zellers sells Cherokee brand clothing)
*Diversity (draws a blank line, sorry)
*Major sponsorships, needs to include something about their Breast cancer merchandise, and after that can say the race car turns pink during the month of October
*The lead paragraph, needs to be expanded to two or three paragraphs to synopsize the article after the other three sections have been expanded.
68.226.61.4 07:50, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for expansion 

message: Hello, I work for the company and I believe when Target is pronounced with the pseudo-French accent, it is correctly spelled as "Tar-zhay".  The October edition of our company newsletter, "Red" features an interview with Pink where she pronounces Target with the pseudo-French accent and the newsletter spelled her pronounciantion out as "Tar-zhay".  I'm changing it back to "Tar-zhay", because I don't know where this "Tar-jé" came from (and it was only changed from "Tar-zhay" to "Tar-jé" recently) so I doubt its credibility. 68.226.61.4 00:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Tar-zhay' is just the phonetical English was to spell 'Tar-jé'  The 'jé' is French and is pronounced "zhay". Wikipedianinthehouse 21:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to add 'Tar-jé' back in, so it would show both the spelling and the pronunciation.  This is probably the best of both worlds.  68.226.61.4 23:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tar-zhay" or "Tar-jé" 

message: This is getting way too complicated and over in-depth.  We are also treading in possibly violating corporate trade secrets violations with this much detail.  I am removing this information. Wikipedianinthehouse 18:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it can be cited and verified, then it is not trade secret.  I don't know where everyone else got their content from, but mine came from Target's own web site.  However, I do agree that this content is over in-depth.  It would be better off to state that "Target has cashiers" than to detail everything they do. 68.226.61.4 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't see how having a paragraph on the store hours is over in-depth, unless the point that was trying to be illustrated in the paragraph was not realized.  The article Hypermarket states that hypermarkets in the United States typically have long operating hours and some are continuously open.  This is not true with SuperTargets; their operating hours are the same as the hours of Targets and Target Greatlands except on Sundays, and SuperTargets are not and (to my knowledge) never were continuously open.  68.226.61.4 00:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Except where prohibited by law (2 stores in NJ), all Targets, including the Supers, have the same operating hours, so in theory we could state them.-newkai | talk | contribs 02:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...huh?  What the hell's the law in New Jersey? 68.226.61.4 07:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two stores in New Jersey are located in a county which still has a blue law against stores being open on Sunday. See Blue_law#Bergen_County.2C_New_Jersey -newkai | talk | contribs 18:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade secrets violations? 

message: Much of the information that was removed from the article was placed by Target employees looking to improve the image of the company (talking about Target "brand", RGY visits, etc).  There was way too much of a "positive" vibe coming from the article.  I have removed that to return a more neutral POV to the article.  Also, putting this information starts to get into violation of trade secrets and getting too in-depth. Wikipedianinthehouse 18:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But that "brand" info was accurate and factual. How is stating that the company aims to provide certain services POV? -newkai | talk | contribs 18:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have removed further information from this article that I've seen come up within the past month, to return this article to NPOV.  It is about time someone did something like this.  If this is going to be a featured article candidate, then there shouldn't be any substantial changes that would make this article appear less professional.  68.226.61.4 23:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have changed all references of team member to employee in the article, save for the instance critical for the point made in the Differentiation section.  Any other use of team member in this article is Target POV.  A similar discussion exists on use of the word associate on Wal-Mart's talk page archives. 68.226.61.4 04:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: I'm sorry to say it but the people on this page who are hell bent on making this page a feature article have really ruined a very in depth page.  I dont see how deleting all the detail that was added made this page any better.  In my mind, it now sucks.  This was a great article with a lot of information, now its just a skeleton.  Lets put the detail back in and see where it can go.
:Indeed. I also don't get the bias accusations, as we simply stated facts about the service Target aims to provide to its guests. -newkai | talk | contribs 18:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is terrible!  It's full of flowery self-idealization -- "upscale, trend-forward merchandise" -- and lazily written in disorganized bullet point format.  Lotsofissues 11:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as the article doesn't say it is that way, but rather it is aimed by the corporation to be that way, I don't see the problem. -newkai | talk | contribs 03:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the user is saying that the wordage of the particular sentence in question implies POV.  It would be more NPOV to word it as "Target intends to provide upscale, trend-forward merchandise" than to word it as "Target provides upscale, trend-forward merchandise," which is what I believe the sentence currently implies.  I could probably cite the first wordage from the book.  Also, the bulletted list in that section could be refactored/rearranged into a few good-sized paragraphs.  That way it also makes it easier to expand.  68.226.61.4 03:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have rearranged this whole section into a few good-sized paragraphs.  It could probably be rearranged some more, but I think it flows better.  Also, I have attempted to remove the NPOV in question, however I am too tired to know if I did it too well.  Please make additional changes as you guys see fit.  68.226.61.4 06:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much partisianship 

message: Didnt know whether to include this into Target or make it a new thing, but somethign should be mentioned about their restructured photo lab. I had a family member that was a manager of a photo lab that has information about what exactly has happened and such. For example, in June of 2005, Target and Kodak/Qualex contract was up and Target decided to take back their photo labs from them, laying off many staff members from the Photo Lab division. Just a thought currently, any suggestions? --Something crazy 01:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is such a mention, the second paragraph in Target Corporation#Target.  I wrote the original one a long time ago, and cited my research.  I placed it in this section because it was the first mention of Target having photo labs.  Feel free to expand it or move it elsewhere as you wish.  68.226.61.4 01:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo Lab

message: User newkai suggested that a section be made on the Bullseye Dog mascot.  Known information:
* Bullseye is a Bull Terrier
* Bullseye Dog is a trademark of Target Brands, says so on the bottom of http://www.target.com/ and the circular
I was fairly certain that the dog was a pit bull.  Is that the same as a bull terrier? 69.174.71.38 20:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: vs.  He's a Bull Terrier (right) -newkai | talk | contribs 22:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bullseye, the Dog

message: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/28/AR2006012801268.html
This is a really interesting article about Target helping law enforcement catch criminals.  I really hope this is incorporated into the main article.  I'm new to Wikipedia and don't really know how to edit the pages in the correct format nor do I know how to draft well, but I want to help out this wonderful project.  So I'm pointing out this article for those who may have the expertise.  I hope it helps the project.  Dtrizzle 05:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added. Wikipedianinthehouse 20:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target as law enforcement 

message: there is conflicting information on this page. Are there 23 or 27 distribution centers? (Jay 21:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are 23 distribution centers, according to Target's corporate fact card, updated today even.  There were 23 back when I originally wrote that paragraph.  I am removing the image in question, since I can't figure out where the other four come from.  Three of them could be "import warehouses," and then there's a fourth dot in Minnesota that is unaccounted for.  68.226.61.4 05:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the 4th dot possibly Target Commercial Interiors (TCI)? It has nothing to do with distribution, but is one of a kind and in that general area. There is also no mention of it in this article and it should be added. Maybe with some retouching we can re-use that image.(Jay 11:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's TCI, my first thought was that the fourth dot was HQ itself.  Target Commercial Interiors is mentioned in the article--I expanded it myself--however it is quite out of place and in the History section.  The entire list of subsidiaries should be moved out into its own section for consistency, in my opinion.  I will ask the uploader myself what the other four dots are.  68.226.61.4 01:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I just read today from another article written by Target that there are 27 distrobution centers. The list I was able to obtain lists 32 centers of some sort, one being for returns, two being in the same city (presumably just dual facilities) and another is a "Wharehouse Outlet Store". Nothing on my list mentiones anything other then the Fridley, MN center being in MN. (Jay 04:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I suppose the fourth dot could be the Target.com store, since its supply has nothing to do with Target stores, and they carry many different items that even Target Greatlands and SuperTargets don't carry.  68.226.61.4 04:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distribution Centers 

message: Recently an anonymous poster put under the Differentiation section a comment that implied that Target has its own loss prevention team and also that its competitors do not.  I believe this is incorrect because Wal-Mart has their own loss prevention team, and I'm not too sure if there is a major discount retailer that does not have one.  I do believe a mention of Target's assets protection team is worthy of noting on here though.  Also, one remarkable work that they've done was catching some guy a couple weeks ago that had been doing ticket switching on Legos and had previously gotten away with stealing $200,000 of Legos from several other Target stores.  I don't see any valid reason why content like this should be in the Differentiation section though, so it should be elsewhere.  68.226.61.4 07:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, and of course he/she is part of the larger AP team as a whole, which also includes plain-clothed and red-clothed team members. -newkai | talk | contribs 05:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differentiation, Security team 

message: Someone just changed the founding year from 1902 to 1962.  The Dayton Dry Goods Company was formed in 1902.  In my opinion, this was the true beginning of the Target Corporation even if it was called something different way back then.  What do you all think? --MatthewUND(talk) 18:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur.  Its still the same company even though it has shed its other divisions. Wikipedianinthehouse 21:16, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I disagree. Target Corporation recognizes itself as being founded in 1962. I would support the inclusion of 1902 as the founding of its parent company. (Jay 23:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Unless anyone objects within 10 days, I am re-writing the sentence to mention that the parent company was founded in 1902 and Target in 62. (Jay 05:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  founding year? 

message: The Similar urban Target stores with their own unique designs exist in... sentence is getting to be very long since I initially wrote it.  I do not know if the stores that were added really do exist, nor do I know how remarkable they are.  There needs to be a cite referring to each of them.  Also, the sentence just looks funny anyways, it might better be represented as a list instead.
The Portland store doesn't sound remarkable enough to mention here, so I might just remove the paragraph. If there is reason to include the factual information in the article, then I will copyedit it.  Unless someone beats me to it, I might also write a paragraph on the Atlantic Terminal store, since it is one of the busiest in the corporation.  68.226.61.4 03:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found the one in West Hollywood.  I mentioned it before in an archived discussion, I just couldn't remember where it was.      68.226.61.4 03:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I found a couple articles on the store in Portland. It seems you submitted before I finished this edit. The second article suggests that it is an urban store however, and the architect is noteworthy.    architect 68.226.61.4 05:25, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Perhaps a paragraph should be added on the architects of these stores.  It seems they are worthy of mention, just like Michael Graves is with his respective products that Target carries.  I've already cited the website of the architect of the Atlantic Terminal and Stamford, CT stores. 68.226.61.4 05:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urban stores, need cites 

message: Should the Target Corp. infobox point to department store or discount store?  It had been pointing to department store ever since it pointed to anything besides public, and then suddenly last week it was changed to discount store, and without reason either.  I know Target combines the two and claims it is a discount department store.  However, in my opinion it should point to department store because that article defines what one is better.  68.226.61.4 05:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the two articles you pointed to contradict each other hence the tag. I say we remove it all together and decide where it belongs by discussing those other articles on their pages. J.reed  06:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Department store]] or [[discount store]]? 

message: Hello, a new WikiProject called Retailing has been created, and we invite anyone who is interested in joining to sign up. If you would like to join it, then list your name on Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Retailing.
Tuxide 00:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject:  Retailing 

message: From the last edit:
"read the sources related to Target Forensic Services. Those sources clearly state that their are critics."
From the reference:
"Some people note the possible ethical complexities inherent in Target's tight government relationships. "It is a tricky issue when firms get too close to government," said Ernesto Dal Bó, assistant professor of business and public policy at the Haas School of Business at the University of California at Berkeley. Dal Bó sees such alliances as fraught with potential conflicts, though he cautions against alarm. "There is no reason we need to say that anything bad is happening, but we do need to watch," he said."
The article's past:
"Some critics worry that Target and other companies that provide these types of favors for governmental agencies may receive unfair advantages or use their philanthropy to get company special treatment from the government."
At no point are "critics" mentioned. Just one subject who objectively brought up potential problems that could arise simply by calling them "ethitical complexities". If someone would like to reword this reflecting valid information or provide a source that approiately validates the original edit, please do so. J.reed  03:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forensic Lab "Critics" 

message: Would a list of this type be informative enough to include in Wikipedia? What if it included opening dates? J.reed  03:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thought I'd point out that Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations)#Chains and franchises says that a "List of Wal-Marts in Germany" would be informative.  Tuxide 03:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed that to China since that list would include zero items. Sometimes I feel like its just you and me [usefully] editing Target and Wal-Mart. Does anyone think this list would not be informative and notable? J.reed  03:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of multi level Target stores 

message: However, not all SuperTargets feature a full grocery department.[citation needed]
What constitutes "a full grocery department" -- Why does one SuperTarget carry a line of grocery radically different from another SuperTarget to qualify it as not a "full line". I'm not going to bother removing that line again and hitting 3RR, I know someone is going to re-add it anyway. Please cite or give a rational explanation. J.reed  06:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "full grocery department" 

message: Just thought I would ask this question here.  After doing some research, I have found some reason to believe it is not.  I am half-convinced that it is actually a term that is NPOV.  What I discovered is that upscale discount retailing is a concept that John Geisse invented while he was employed by the Dayton Company, and that Target was the first upscale discount retailer ever.  Another example of such a chain would be Venture.  In a nutshell:
;Traditional discount retailing:Achieving low prices of their store brand products by making the manufacturing process of their goods as cheap as possible, resulting in lower quality products.  Examples are Kmart and Wal-Mart
;Upscale discount retailing:Selling higher quality products as low as possible, usually by cutting expenses.
Comments, please?  Tuxide 03:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is "upscale discount retailing" Target POV? 

message: I've heard things about Kmart somehow indirectly owning Target, does anyone else know about this? Gopherbassist 15:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What a silly idea, I have also heard things about Target somehow being French-owned.  If you really think it's true though, provide a source for us to go off of please.  Kmart is Detroit-based, while Target is Minneapolis-based.  Kmart's first store launched only 60 days before Target's first store did.  To my knowledge, Target Stores has always been a wholly owned subsidiary by its parent (Dayton Hudson or Target Corporation) and has never been sold off to another company.  Tuxide 18:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kmart 

message: This is very amusing:  A Target vending machine.  Does anyone know anything about this, or has seen one?  I would be interested in tying it into this article somehow.  It appears Target Corporation did this for a year back in 2003.  Here is an article about it as well as a page with images of this thing.  Tuxide 02:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It just appears to be a normal snack vending machine wrapped in a Target design, according to pictures in your second link. -newkai t-c 22:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In my university, there are vending machines that sell dry goods, such as school supplies and pain killer.  I am pretty much convinced that it is not a hoax, although it would be good to see more sources.  This thing amusingly reminds me of the iLoo.  Tuxide 00:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target vending machine (what the heck?) 

message: Some time ago I added: 
E*TRADE ATM machines are still found in Super and regular Targets around the country.
and it was removed due to not citing a source. How do I cite something that I've seen in person many times over. -HumanZoom 21:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure you cannot, as per WP:NOR.  However the main reason that was removed was that the statement was contested to be factually inaccurate.  I believe there was once a time when that was true, even after the zone closures, for I have seen them.  However, all of the Target stores that I've been in recently that used to have E*TRADE atm machines in them no longer do, or no longer mention E*TRADE anywhere on them.  Tuxide 22:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

text: That or indeed find an article that mentions the ATMs.  Tuxide 22:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not mad, and I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, but every Target I have been to prior to the zone closing still have E*TRADE ATMs in them to this date. Now, two brand new Targets were built in my area and they have ATM identical to the ETRADE ones, but they are branded differently to include a red casing and white bullseyes. I guess my biggest complaint was that right above my previous statement in the Super Target section, it says some stores include Jamba Juice or a Wells Fargo Bank. I'm not doubting the validity of that statement, but that doesn't cite sources either and I personally have never seen a Jamba Juice nor a Well Fargo bank in any Target store. I assume a picture of such ATMs constitutes original research and would be count either would it? -HumanZoom 05:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Or here...would this count? I cannot provide a direct link, but if you go to ETRADE's web site ATM locator | here and input Plano, TX 75024; eight Target locations will show up within 10 miles. -HumanZoom 06:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea about the Jamba Juice, since it was added very recently.   states that that there are only two such stores and this is a test program, so it needs to be clarified.  The link you provided is interesting, a query on Omaha Nebraska returns a store that no longer exists.  The first such SuperTarget store with an E*TRADE zone was in Atlanta, Georgia.   points out that E*TRADE was once the exclusive ATM network for Target stores; however, that was before E*TRADE's current CEO was named, and I can't verify if this is true any more.   is an article detailing the launch of the first SuperTarget (in Omaha), which states that it opened with a Norwest bank (now known as Wells Fargo).  Tuxide 06:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  E*Trade ATMS 

message: Some information I thought was interesting, now that Wikipedianinthehouse added the ClearRx information.  I'm not 100% sure if these "facts" are true, but I would throw it in if I could cite it from the USPTO site.
*You will never see ClearRx in a pharmacy other than a Target one because ClearRx is patented
*Certain types of GiftCards, such as glow-in-the-dark GiftCards, scratch 'n' sniff GiftCards, GiftCards that light up and make sound, are patented...that's why you don't see them outside of Target stores
Does someone who knows how to work out the USPTO site able to throw this in here with citations?  Else I will when I have time to.  68.226.61.4 08:45, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Bingo.  Credit or stored value card with wood layer, uspto.gov and image 68.226.61.4 06:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I have just received a ClearRx prescription from a Target pharmacy.  If you read the back label, it most certainly says "Patent pending" on the very bottom.  Suckage, and here I thought the patent was approved already.  Perhaps "patent pending" is notable though, a lot of news articles about ClearRx I've seen misleads the reader as if the patent had already been obtained.  Tuxide 02:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patents:  ClearRx, GiftCards, ... 

message: I've reverted :Image:TargetLogo1.png to :Image:TargetLogo.png. :Image:TargetLogo.png is a higher quality image and represents Target's corporate side more than the consumer. As the article pertains more to the corporation, it seems more appropriate. Objections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hayfordoleary (talk • contribs) 
:The :Image:TargetLogo1.png is the one featured on its latest quarterly reports on the SEC's website .  However, in my opinion the true "corporate" logo is the "Target Corporation" one similar to the one on the upper left of , which is not currently uploaded.  However, that image has probably not been updated yet ( uses the new one), since the "sans-corporation" logo with the really big bullseye has been used on more recent corporate documents, such as  and .  Tuxide 21:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think you might be right about the "official" logo being the one with the line and bullseye beneath. It was formerly on the official "about Target" section of the Target site. Regardless, I have no idea where we'd get a sufficiently high quality version of this logo. Sean Hayford O'Leary 15:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I assume you mean this one? I'll try to find one. Sean Hayford O'Leary 15:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Was able to get one off Target's historical timeline. I was able to restore it partially (it was even more severly cropped originally), but it's still somewhat tightly cropped. Both that and an early Dayton logo have been addded to the History section. Sean Hayford O'Leary 18:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I went ahead and added a couple sentences ot the history section as I was planning to.  Tuxide 02:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text:  I uploaded the "Official" logo.  However I do believe this is considered obsolete to the company as I also could not find any corporate documents that display it. Kpeanut 01:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice...where did you find it?  Tuxide 02:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It turns out I had it saved on my computer all along on one of my old performance review Kpeanut 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The addition of Holiday controversy seems to be very motive-driven to me, since User:CrazyInSane has been involved in numerous issues involving "secularization" (eg. changing BCE to BC). This new addition, while a good one, needs some NPOV-like balance like the other criticisms. It currently makes it sound like "Evil Target... How dare they secularize Christmas... Good thing some decent people set them straight". There's obviously a counter-argument to why retailers are doing this... Not to offend other religions, etc. It's 4:40am in Austria right now, and I'm pretty brain-dead right now, otherwise I'd do the edit myself. -newkai | talk | contribs 02:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about?? Perhaps first you should consider WP:FAITH above your personal bias in deciding whether the section is POV. Secondly, you should actually point out the flaws of the addition rather than just saying it is unbalanced and ranting about how I'm being "pro-Christmas" and saying "good thing some decent people set them straight". Your failure to accomplish those two things shows that you have bias on the subject as well. I admit my personal bias (although it shouldn't be a factor) however also assure you that I considered WP:NPOV and wrote in the neutral point of view. Please, explain how this section could possibly be improved, without inserting heresy and original research into the section..? And also, how could there "obviously be a counter-argument" when Target was quick to change their policy without argument?. — `CRAZY`(IN)`SANE` 03:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NPOVness would involve reasoning behind using "holiday" as despite the majority of Targets sales involve customers celebrating Christmas during this time period, there's a certain political correctness motive behind the use of Holiday, which of course is highly debated beyond Target. This is a general trend today, and is not Target-specific. While I see the possibility that you might have "assumed good faith" in adding the content of your edit, that section does not exhibit NPOV. Just the fact that you pipe linked "holiday" to Secularization of Christmas is an example of this. Please don't accuse me in being POV... I have simply questioned the NPOVness of your edit, not changed it to an opposing POV. -newkai | talk | contribs 03:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. We can rid of the "holiday" link right now, but if you could lay out all of your proposed alterations I would appreciate it. — `CRAZY`(IN)`SANE` 04:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would mostly involve an addition/balance about why Target would come up with the idea of secularizing Christmas in the first place. I can add this later today, once I get my WikiSleep. -newkai | talk | contribs 04:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holiday controversy 

message: I noticed that footnote 13 currently links to http://www.saveroe.com/node/1714/, a page from a blog operated on a Planned Parenthood server.  This reference does not appear to conform with Wikipedia:Verifiability#Dubious sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Evaluating secondary sources as it is a blog page and the server is run by an organization that is politically active in the area of reproductive services.  Does anyone have another source for the claims made by this  reference?  --Allen3 talk 00:49, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that someone has replaced this citation; however, it is from a newspaper and is therefore not freely readable to everyone.  If possible, we should least find something we all can read.  Tuxide 00:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious source 

message: The section on Assets Protection because it is highly POV and uncited, and it borders along trade secret violation.  What's notable is the mention of Claude Allen, although in the same sense as William Swanberg.  Both have their own article.  Assets Protection definitely isn't notable enough to have its own section in this article; doing so is like adding one on Cart Attendant, which is flat-out stupid.  I am removing this content.  Tuxide 06:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, a neutral point of view could most certainly be achieved through (perhaps much) editing.  I don't particularly disagree with removing the particular section you're concerned with...  I don't see that it adds a tremendous amount of value to the article at this point.  Just remember, always, always, always: WP:FAITH.  Justen 08:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assets Protection 

message: I overhauled the references in the article by citing the names, sources and dates. Previously, the references simply stated "Article on..." Clipper471 07:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, much of that was my doing, without prejudice against fixing it later.  You really have improved the quality of the article recently.  It would also be helpful if you use edit summaries as well, just so nobody thinks you're MascotGuy.  Tuxide 07:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References cleanup done

message: Sometime next week, I am going to archive the 2006 discussions on this talk page.  I might keep around some of the "active" discussions in its original form (if any), however  I am probably going to refactor the unresolved ones in the same fashion as what was done towards the beginning of this year.  Way to go everyone, this article has expanded and improved much since its last AfD nom.  Regards, Tuxide 07:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Archiving 2006

message: I thought "target.direct" was changed to "Target.com" after the sale of Marshall Field's and Mervyns in 2004. target.direct was the group that oversaw all those e-commerce operations. It was labeled "Great stores. One site. One checkout." A search of Google found nothing since 2002 that referred to target.direct. But here's a 2003 webpage from Target.com that still is up and running. Notice how all the retail divisions are under target.direct? I also noticed in the 2005 Annual Report that heads are listed for Target Sourcing Services, Financial Services, and Target.com, but no "target.direct". Changes are forthcoming in the sections labeled "Target Corporation" and "Subsidiaries." I've already changed the template.  Clipper471 03:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any news article stating such a name change?  I haven't heard the term "target.direct" for a year or two; however I don't really want to add a sentence on such a name change unless I can cite it myself.  I have heard of the subsidiary called "Target.com" though on recent SEC reports.  Tuxide 04:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know of any news articles or official announcements, but the name "target.direct" is no longer used within Target Headquarters.  It is now known as "Target.com" in all official company communications.Bb referee 04:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: e-Commerce

message: I noticed someone made an edit to the subsidiaries section concerning Technology Services.  Target Corporation indeed does have such a subsidiary, with offices in both the Minneapolis headquarters building and in India, and it should be included as per comment #2 on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Target Corporation.  What I do not know is if it is one subsidiary or two of them, and what they call themselves nowadays.  It is not the same as Target.com.  Technology Services provides support for the corporation's customer relationship management and supply chain management systems, etc.  Tuxide 02:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target Technology Services (TTS) / India (TTSI) 

message: I have given a major expansion to the pre-1990 part of Target Corporation to better reflect the content that I believe should be in there (like expansion to different regions of the United States and major transition periods).  If anything, I would suggest moving the content of the top executives out of History and into its own section for further expansion.  Also the post-1990 stuff needs to be expanded, else it looks stupid.  Tuxide 07:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major history expansion 

message: The current poll regarding an issue related to this article is now closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as a new section of the article's talk page).
Last issue: Talk:Christmas controversies/Merge proposal
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thread_title: [[Talk:Christmas controversies/Merge proposal]]

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message: I have removed  from this article because I wasn't too convinced that it was remarkable enough for inclusion.  Although it was uncited and leaned towards WP:NOT#CRYSTAL, I have seen citations to verify this.  If anyone wants to add it back in, then feel free to, but please find a better way to work this in (like stick it in History or make Target Financial Services its own subsection?)  Tuxide 07:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target Financial Services 

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message: I removed it.  If you're going to add the tag, please leave an explanation as to WHY you think it sounds like an advertisement, and make suggestions to make it better.  The article is about a retail outlet, so it's going to sound a bit like an advert.  But I do not know of any weasel words or anything similar that, but I certainly didn't comb the article for them - hence why this discussion is needed if you're going to add it back. -- JTHolla! 04:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advert Tag 

message: In 1995, Target operated a "Smarts" store in a former Target on the Northwest side of Indianapolis. It served as a second sale point for clearanced Target info from all over the Midwest. Does anyone remember any other locations? I don't know how long the store was in operation, but it was long gone by 2000. Lambertman 22:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have confirmed that this store did exist from Daily News Record, although I know nothing about it and I can't read the full article.  It is not clear if it existed as a chain, but the article was written in April 1993 and suggests the location of this one is Chicago.  It sounds like another Everyday Hero to me, so with a better source it could be included.  Tuxide 22:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Another article referring to the Indianapolis one, dated July 1993.  Again, I can't read the whole thing.  Tuxide 22:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

text: A freely readable article from Discount Store News, finally.  Dated May 3, 1993 and probably the best source so far.  Tuxide 22:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that we know that it opened in 1993, and intended to be a chain of stores with one unit per distribution center, we should probably figure out what year it closed, and how many of these existed.   There were seven distribution centers during the time, but we can only confirm the Smarts closeout store in Indianapolis. Tuxide 23:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Smarts was a clearance outlet concept. The stores were stocked with overstocked merchandise, customer returns, scratch/dent items, etc. There were 4 locations in total; in addition to the Indianapolis one already mentioned there was one in the El Paso area and one in either Des Moines or Omaha. The fourth one may have been in California. No, I don't have citations for any of this as it is all from memory. In any case, I don't think this was ever important enough to merit inclusion in the overall article. Canth1 (talk) 19:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it made it into Discount Store News so it must have some importance.  I'll try checking the Google News Archives.  I don't ever remember there being one in Omaha.  Tuxide (talk) 22:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, they closed in July or August 1995, as per .  I wish I could read the whole thing.  As per the article, the units were in Rancho Cucamonga, California, Des Moines, Iowa, El Paso, Texas, and Indianapolis.  Tuxide (talk) 22:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smarts 

message: ===Transition period===
User Suso suggested that this article's History section should be expanded to include Target's major transition period towards the end of the 1990s.  User Tuxide has identified three major transition periods that the Target chain has experienced:
*In 1968, Target expanded its chain into St. Louis, while the chain's cofounder and upscaling discount retailing pioneer John Geisse quit his job to work for May.
*:Done.  Tuxide 07:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion

message: User Suso suggested that this article's History section should be expanded to include Target's major transition period towards the end of the 1990s.  User Tuxide has identified three major transition periods that the Target chain has experienced:
*In 1968, Target expanded its chain into St. Louis, while the chain's cofounder and upscaling discount retailing pioneer John Geisse quit his job to work for May.
*:Done.  Tuxide 07:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Transition period

message: As per Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Target Corporation/archive1, the following sections need expansion:
*Target Australia, needs to include a paragraph about the talks about Target buying out Zellers in Canada and then the section needs to be renamed appropriately to reflect some international thing, could also include more similarities between Target stores in the US and these other places (like Zellers sells Cherokee brand clothing)
*:The section Target Australia has been refactored and merged into the main Target Stores subsection.  Tuxide 02:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion as per FACfailed

message: I see no reason why Target Australia should be included in this article, since it has its own article and it has not relationships with the subject of this article except a trademark licence. I think a  suffice. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 12:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's important relevant to the subject of the article is that Target Corporation has never operated stores outside of the United States.  The information can probably be normalized and inserted into the Target Corporation#Target Stores section, because I don't see why Target (Australia) should have its own section on here.  Also, I brought up the inclusion of the Zellers acquisition rumor on #Expansion as per FACfailed.  Although it was merely a rumor, it was considered notable during the time.  Tuxide 02:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Target Operates in india therefore it does operate outside of the united states71.131.30.178 (talk) 22:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fate of [[Target Corporation#Target Australia|Target Australia]]-- Delete? 

message: Up until Recently Target had no stores in Alaska, but in October it is opening a store in Anchorage and another in Wasilla. I would have added it but the page is protected.Getagrip123 (talk) 22:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It already mentions expanding into Alaska, but I would hate to expand on it because Wikipedia isn't supposed to list events that haven't happened yet. Tuxide (talk) 03:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia allows for mentioning of certain future events and considering target has had set dates for months its not an issue of WP:FUTURE71.131.30.178 (talk) 22:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alaska 

message: Just to claify, Ulrich currently opperates as CEO and Chairman of the Board.  He will retire as CEO effective May 1st, but will continue to opperate as Chairman until the end of the fiscal year 2008.  I fixed this in the article, but just wanted to state it here.  -- JTHolla! 16:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we have a citation for this please?  Thanks, Tuxide (talk) 19:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ulrich Retirement 

message: The slogan "Strength of Many. Power of One." was popularized by former CEO Bob Ulrich to assert his opinion that Target should sell of Daytons, Mervyns, Marshall Fields and other subsidiaries that were eating into Target's profits. Geskermann024 (talk) 04:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strength of Many. Power of one. 

message: Two out of the three Hawaii stores are now hiring associates, http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081210/NEWS01/812100399/-1/RSS02?source=rss_localnews . Store management is already on-site. Wiki should reflect that Vermont is the only state without the retailer. Bbbc (talk) 03:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawai`i Expansion 

message: The article contains a good bit of jargon and language that reads like an annual report or prospectus (e.g., "team member," "diversity").  While this probably reads fine to an audience well-acquainted with American business practices, it is not the best approach for Wikipedia's worldwide general readership.  Please see WP:BIAS for more information.  —  AjaxSmack  00:41, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I went through the article; "Team member" should only ever appear once in it in the Differentiation section. Tuxide (talk) 07:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jargon and bias 

message: It's been a while since I've went through this article, but I removed the following content:
Target offers its customers many items using its own private labels. This include the following
*Archer Farms: An upscale line of grocery items including many all natural or organic foods.
*Market Pantry: A line of value priced food products.
*Sutton & Dodge: A premium meat line found at Super Target.
*Trutech: A line of entry-level value priced electronics.
*Home: A line home furnishing including bedding, dinnerware, and patio furniture. 
*Durabuilt: A line of hand and power tools. 
*Chefmate: A line value priced kitchen tools including small appliances and cooking utensils.
*up & up (formerly Target Brand): A line of household goods, cleaning supplies, heath and beauty aids, and baby items. 
*Greatland: A line of camping and outdoor gear. 
*Embark: A line of luggage and travel accessories 
*Merona: A line of mens and womens clothing. 
*Circo: A line of childrens clothing and shoes.
*Xhilaration: A lines of womens and girls clothing.
*Gilligan and O'Malley: A line of womens lingerie.
*Choxie: A line of fine chocolates.
*Mossimo Supply Co*: A line of clothing for men and women.
To me, it looked like cruft or a shopping directory.  Yes I know Wal-Mart has a whole article devoted to this topic, but here it really has nothing to do with what this article is about, which is the parent company.  There already exists a prosified version in the Subsidiaries section because most of these are owned by the Target Brands division.  Tuxide (talk) 07:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I could see this list being helpful to someone doing research on private label brands or other retail-related topics, similarly to List of Wal-Mart brands (as you mentioned).  There's a lot of cruft on Wikipedia, but this appears to cross the arbitrary line (in my mind at least) that divides list cruft from useful content.  I wouldn't object to it being under the existing brands section, though, if that's where you think it ought to be.  user:J aka justen (talk) 18:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's exactly what I think.  I don't know about brands like Mossimo, but most of these (like Merona) are owned by a subsidiary called Target Brands.  I also don't like a list such as this one not because it's a list of brands, but because it's a list in general.  List of Wal-Mart brands would be a more interesting read if it was prosified, and doing it the way it is now I consider the lazy way out.  Tuxide (talk) 23:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listcruft 

message: * Study confirms Scotts Valley Target concerns (Summary of 2004 ABAG Study)
Frank Kertai: Study confirms Scotts Valley Target concerns
*Supercenters and the Transformation of the Bay Area Grocery Industry: Issues, Trends, and Impacts
This report on supercenters (large discount stores that include full-scale groceries) analyzes the regional impacts of these facilities, and the factors that local governments and commuities whould take into account when considering their siting.
—January 2004 
[http://www.bayeconfor.org/media/files/pdf/PPRSCscreen11_2.pdf SUPERCENTERS AND THE TRANSFORMATION
OF THE BAY AREA GROCERY INDUSTRY:
Issues, Trends, and Impacts
Bay Area Economic Forum
January]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fkertai (talk • contribs) 23:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economic Impact of Target Superstores 

message: I just posted a referenced item that Target was among the businesses where customer credit card numbers were stolen in the biggest such case in history.  It was quickly reverted here.  The edit summary said, "this is the article about Target Corporation not the hacker, leave it in the article about him)"  It's referenced and it's notable and it's about Target.  This should not be a p.r. article for Target Americasroof (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From that article, it appears that Target was one of seventeen companies targeted.  From the scant reliable source coverage, it just isn't clear this was a notable enough event to be included.  If you could source this, without wp:synthesis, as part of a wider issue with Target's information security, that would be notable.  One off events like this every year or two just are, for better or worse, common, and Wikipedia is not a collection of headlines.  user:J aka justen (talk) 03:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Hello, thanks for following WP:BRD.  I removed it because I believed it was out of context.  The article is about Target and I think the hacker incident really has nothing to do with the parent company or its history for that matter.  This is especially considering he had multiple "targets".  If you think it's a PR article about Target Corporation, then that's a completely different issue that can be brought up, but it's irrelevant to this one.  Tuxide (talk) 04:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stolen customer credit numbers 

message: Sometime this next week I'm going to archive the 2007 discussions here.  I might keep around some of the "active" discussions in its original form, however I am probably going to refactor the unresolved ones in the same fashion that I have been doing.  Tuxide (talk) 23:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Took me one and a half years to do it but it's done now.  Tuxide (talk) 06:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving 2007 

message: I recently changed the Target Greatland section where P-Fresh is located to sound a little better, but I think it could possibly go in its own section between Greatland and SuperTarget since it seems like most new stores will be built this way, and some stores will be remodeled to this prototype . I would move it myself, but only if I was allowed to cite the TGT Wiki, which is an internal wiki for Team Members so that it would have more information in it. The TGT Wiki has an entire page dedicated to the P09.400 (aka P-Fresh) prototype with pictures included. Etgeek (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  P-Fresh 

message: I think the distinction in the article between Target Corporation and Target Stores is exaggerated.  Especially, the manner in which the distinction is represented in the Wikipedia is confusing:
:Target Stores is a redirect.
::#REDIRECT Target Corporation#Target Stores
::
:::Category:Discount stores of the United States
:Target Corporation is not in the above category.  It is in :Category:Retail companies of the United States
Target Stores should be a simple redirect to the main article, not to the section.  The redirect page should not contain a cateory.  Wal-Mart, Kmart are directly in :Category:Discount stores of the United States and Target Corporation should be as well. patsw (talk) 03:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All of your points make sense to me.  jæs (talk) 04:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Well, the alternative would be to spin the Target stores section within this article over to there.  It would help if User:Vegaswikian would join us for this discussion, so that we better understand their concerns.  jæs (talk) 04:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I will not be following this discussion.  The corporation operates several brands.  There is no reason why we need to cram all of this into one article when you can have one for each brand and one for the parent company.  Classifying the parent company as a discount store is simply wrong.  The fact that other companies are also wrong is not a reason to make the same mistake in other areas.  WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS simply does not work.  The best solution is to split the stuff out.  Walmart is not an example of how to do things correctly. Also removing proper categories from redirects is simply not acceptable. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What are the other "brands" of Target which are distinct from Target retail sales?  Do they materially contribute to the revenues of the corporation? And why would the Wikipedia care when the corporation's annual report itself doesn't make the distinction that you believe to be necessary?  I'm not making a OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, I am creating a fact-based case for why the "split", as you call it, is a mistake. What are your facts? patsw (talk) 01:06, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Target's own corporate history defines itself as a discount store as well as its current annual report.  Is there any evidence that the "parent" has material revenues from something unrelated to discount stores? patsw (talk) 03:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorization, Redirect 

message: This support wavered in July 0f 2010, due to the donation of $150,000 to support the election of an anti-gay rights GOP candidate for Minnesotan governor. That's ALL?! --98.232.176.109 (talk) 02:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Best Buy got an entire short section for their $100k donation to the same group. Huw Powell (talk) 00:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If Best Buy jumped off a bridge, should we do it too? Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-gay campaign donation... ONE sentence??? 

message: I want to add an image of Target's footprint within the US. However, I'd like to get some input before I do so. First, the image: :File:Target footprint.pngDoes anybody have any preferences for appearance?
*The color of the dots
*The inclusion of counties (I really wanted to include those because of the way Target diversifies its footprint in rural locations; from I can see they don't have more than one branch in a single zip code)
*The size of the dots, size of the state lines, etc.
It's pretty easy for me to change any of this as it's generated on the fly on my computer. Thoughts? Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:31, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't bring it up because I didn't know where you were going to throw it.  A while ago, another editor did some map using what appeared to be Microsoft Streets and Tips of all the distribution centers and threw it on the bottom of the article in such a way that it spanned the entire width of the page, and I think I removed it because I thought it was completely random.  It would be more informative if it was a gif animated over time by year, and also if other editors knew how to reproduce it so they can do something like this in other articles such as Wal-Mart.  Tuxide (talk) 03:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I guess you would have to ask the company directly if such a service was exposed to the public.  Target once had a map on their corporate website (in Flash I think) that showed state expansion over time, so it must have pulled its information from some service.  The data they used in their annual reports and SEC filings must come from somewhere as well.  I can write a web crawler myself just fine and extract the coordinate data from the DOM tree, but what dependency did you use to generate the map image?  If I recall, Target opens new units every four months so it will have to be regenerated triannually.  Also, unless you wrote it in such a way where it is smart enough to detect where exactly in the DOM tree the coord data is instead of hard-coding its XPath, you would also have to change your script every time they do something to their underlying site template.  Tuxide (talk) 06:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Easy man, I know these things.  I also hold a BS in CS and I'm ABD on my masters.  I don't really want to write my own, but you still didn't answer my question on what you used to actually plot the maps.  I didn't consider you were using zipcodes; I just saw that the coords were on the individual store pages such as this one.  Look for the subtree that makes up the zoombar, and also the Get Directions form.  Tuxide (talk) 15:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: No that's fine; you don't have to provide me with source, I know what you did on the web extraction part.  You're obviously not using XSLT or XPath in the first place like I would've done it.  If you don't want to say what library you used for the image generation part like I've been requesting, then you don't have to say that either.  Tuxide (talk) 22:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: You still have to know where exactly the zip codes are on the maps.  But I'll assume you figured out a way to do that already.  Tuxide (talk) 00:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding footprint image 

message: While I believe the article needs to reference Target's recent controversial political contribution to Minnesota Forward, I do not agree that this donation merits half of the article's introduction.  While this recent act by Target has garnered considerable press, prominently mentioning it in the article's introduction creates the impression that this one act is one of the single most significant elements of this 60+ billion dollar company with 50 years of history.  Content related to this recent current event should reside in the body of the article, perhaps with a one sentence reference in the introduction. Mill1627 (talk) 23:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with the part that this does not belong in the main.  It was added today and it's been removed before, so I took the liberty to remove it again.  Tuxide (talk) 00:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be a small but clear paragraph in a "controversies"-type section, way down low, as it was the last time I saw at Best Buy.  Certainly not part of the lead. PS, also last I checked, there was no article here (or home page either!) for Minnesota Forward, which is really where the details belong, eventually. IMNSHO. Huw Powell (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality questioned 

message: Some of the wording in the paragraph gives the impression that Target donated directly to Emmer, which is absolutely not true. I seriously doubt that at the time of their donation, Target knew that MN-Forward would put out ads in support of Emmer. 64.184.253.134 (talk) 05:35, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No it doesn't.  First it says that target gave money to minnesota Forward.  Then it quotes "Minnesota State Representative Ryan Winkler said it was unwise for Target Corporation to back Emmer, because his controversial views on immigration, LGBT rights, and decreasing the minimum wage for restaurant workers could upset Target shoppers".  The real question is, did the Target execs who made this decision know what MF stood for? Surely they did. Huw Powell (talk) 05:52, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why everyone's getting so worked up about this... probably in the rile-up-your-supporters blogosphere. It's a company giving money to a legislator, while that legislator happens to support something controversial, as if that never happened before. As far as I'm concerned, the whole damned controversy section should be wiped out and only he very most notable incidents. Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:45, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It has resulted in weird apologies from Target's CEO.  The company did not "[give] money to a legislator", they gave it to a PAC of some sort that is still lacking an article here, which used the money to run ads for one candidate for governor in MN.  "That" hasn't really happened much before, because it wasn't legal.  But after the Citizens vs. case, it is. Huw Powell (talk) 09:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

text: And the very next sentence in the article says... what? 64.184.253.134 (talk) 17:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I obviously have to spell it out: "Indeed, LGBT  and progressive groups have expressed disappointment with Target Corporation for its support of Emmer, and some have called for a boycott of Target stores."  Did you catch it?  "Indeed, LGBT  and progressive groups have expressed disappointment with Target Corporation for its support of Emmer, and some have called for a boycott of Target stores."  Target did not support Emmer. 64.184.253.134 (talk) 01:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target is not backing/supporting Emmer 

message: Why isn't this mentioned in the article?? Its a big deal --98.232.176.109 (talk) 05:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  HRC has dropped Target 

message: I am considering the addition of Target's re-launched in house brand "up and up" under the "Subsidiaries" category (Target Brands).  I am also uncertain about the last sentence as the bullseye is no longer the design for the Target Brand. "The relaunch includes new packaging that replaces the traditional bullseye logo with colorful arrows and the new name." http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2009/06/22/daily37.html
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thread_title:  Target in house brand 

message: footnote 68 doesn't look to be valid anymore.  Maybe the roof has changed? 69.241.114.130 (talk) 03:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote 

message: Target has come under fire for large political donations to extremely anti-gay causes and candidates. They have also selecttively sued marriage equality advocates while ignoring Yes on Prop 8 solicitors. They have spent a great deal of effort scrubbing their image in the mainstream media as well as online using very heavy handed tactics. This is very important, if they want to delve into politics and site free speech, they need to allow everyone else the same privilege. The Bill of Rights still trumps corporate policy, for now...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.34.201 (talk) 21:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Giving and LGBT Community Boycotts Target 

message: I have removed Canada from the "areas served" section, as Canada is not currently being served by Target, and will not be until 2013 or 2014.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.99.247 (talk) 22:25, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Areas served 

message: why does it say in wiki that Target does NOT serve the state of Vermont??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.229.28 (talk) 09:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they don't have a store located in Vermont. See Target's website Msw1002 (talk) 15:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: News article concerning Target in Vermont.  Msw1002 (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vermont 

message: In the article it states,  "Target stores are designed to be more attractive than large box-department stores by having wider aisles, drop ceilings, a more attractive presentation of merchandise and generally cleaner fixtures and store personnel."  
What exactly do they mean by "cleaner... store personnel" ?  Do competing stores' employees bathe infrequently?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.34.13 (talk) 05:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you seen the employees at Wal-Mart?  What Target means is that their employee's are expected to maintain proper hygene while wearing the target "uniform".  Their clothes are expected to be neat and clean, without any stains or holes.  DEWY CHEATEM AND HOWE (talk) 19:01, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cleaner personnel"? 

message: the 89th reference is broken and there is nothing to validate the 3 million up from 2 million in weekly charitable donations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.56.193 (talk) 02:08, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: WTF are you talking about? --RThompson82 (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  evidence of charitable work 

message: http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/07/13/target-refuses-to-sell-newly-out-frank-oceans-album-in-stores/ Anyone else heard about this? --RThompson82 (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refuses to carry Frank Ocean album 

message: According to urbanlegends.about.com, this has been proven as an urban legend.  Target stores HAVE participated in these programs in the past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.81.62 (talk) 3:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does not donate to Toys-for-Tots 

message: By September 2010, Target Stores with garden centers had stopped stocking live plants and most garden supplies; in about 350 of its stores, Target used some of the space to stock an expanded selection of fresh food, meat and produce, with the remaining 700 stores gaining space for seasonal items.[38]>>
This article says that garden centers went away in about 350 of its stores. Then goes on to mention the "remaining 700 stores". One of these numbers must be wrong. Which is it? 4.238.6.241 (talk) 16:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garden centers 

message: Why is there nothing on this article about the labor disputes that Target has had in New York?
It wasn't a minor incident as Target was found guilty of violating labor law and even shut an entire store down as a result.
KurtFF8 (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labor Dispute? 

message: Split  - History section is extremely long and overly detailed, and should be split into a new article entitled "History of Target", as this article is over 120 kB.  Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:06, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at Walmart for comparison, and there someone's arguing for "History of Walmart" to be merged back into Walmart. That said, I'm in favor of either splitting or trimming this article. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:   History of Target 

message: Ericschwarz2001 (talk) 20:40, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holiday advertising section 

message: Why is it that the Target data breach, one of the largest retail hacks in modern history (if not the largest) is relegated to a mere sentence at the bottom of an unrelated section? Surely this event, which fundamentally changed how financial institutions approached point-of-sale security, merits its own section if not it's own article.
This hack was too large and too widespread (hundreds of millions of people estimated affected) to be lumped in with other data breaches and be passed off in just a few words. I assert that this event is noteworthy as per Wikipedia's standards, and I purpose it be given its own section, regardless of the feelings at the Target P.R. department. 166.170.41.165 (talk) 08:51, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that it has a sentence in the lede for this article, and also has a whole section at History of Target Corporation, I doubt that any coverup is intended; it probably just got moved out when History of Target corporation was split out into an separate article. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 03:52, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target data breach 

message: Did someone forget that Target acquired Ayr-Way?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.129.209.251 (talk) 23:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ayr-Way? 

message: Hi!
I am currently working on an article about the Target Open House. I would love some help expanding the article.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Target_Open_House
Thanks, 
Daylen (talk) 17:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Target Open House 

message: There's a lot of back and forth editing/reverting going on about Target's policy permitting bathroom use based an individual's gender identity. This is, of course, related to the bathroom bills, etc. Rather than edit warring, can we try and reach a consensus here as to whether this should be included in the article? Personally, I don't think it's notable enough for inclusion. By extension, nor do I think mention of the related "boycott(s)" are notable. Brianga (talk) 18:23, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted and left a message on the editor's talk page. Brianga (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bathrooms 

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message: " Wesfarmers began operating an Australian version of Target in 1973,"
This statement is not correct, or at least very misleading.  The "Australian version of Target", was started in 1973 by either the Coles company or the Myer company ( I don't recall which ),  which merged in the 1980's.   Wesfarmers did not acquire the Coles-Myer company until 2007.  Wesfarmers were not involved in any way in starting or operating the Australian "Target" chain of store, prior to them acquiring the entire Coles-Myer business.Lathamibird (talk) 05:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO it doesn't belong in the WP:LEDE anyway, so I removed it. We already have a hatnote at the top saying Target Australia is a different company. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 05:32, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bogus statement 

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message: I've seen several stories about Target's use of Big Data in customer marketing, including a reference to one customer's father learning that his teenage daughter was pregnant as a result of Target's marketing analytics system sending her targeted ads.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
Target also provides aid to law enforcement, which in at least one cease led to a murder charge
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0421/102.html
https://corporate.target.com/article/2012/02/an-unexpected-career-target-forensic-services-labo
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2006/02/target-sets-sights-on-hard-to-crack.html
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/09/01/stop-thief
https://www.csrwire.com/press_releases/24475-Target-Corporation-Announces-Broad-Commitment-to-Law-Enforcement-Initiatives-New-Technology-Will-Help-Make-Minnesota-Communities-Safer
Would anyone object to an addition of these sections?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jguttenburg (talk • contribs) 21:32, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Targeted advertising (teen pregnancy incident) / Assitance to law enforcement crime labs 

message: * 
This is a possible EL link as it is an official video by CNBC
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thread_title:  Videos for EL 

message: I plan on reworking the history section on this main article by shortening it to only around 3 paragraphs as it is currently too long for the main article. The majority of the history on Target will be redirected to the article on the history of Target.--Excel23 (talk) 02:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History rework 

message: Formal request has been received to merge: History of Target Corporation to the history section of this article. The history of Target is already covered in the history section of this article and a history of Target Corporation separate article is not needed.--Excel23 (talk) 20:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal