Talk:Insight Seminars

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I am not an employee of Insight or anything like that.  Insight has been around for decades and seems like this something that people might do research on.  I was surprised when it was not listed already.  I am very new to posting articles/information and would appreciate any feedback that would keep this information from being deleted.  Awkdade 23:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

message: Added  to EL sect. Cirt (talk) 14:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: article now reads:
"The first seminar was led in 1978 by founder Russell Bishop under the name Insight Training Seminars. "
and links to a non existent page for Russel Bishop.  Looking for info on Bishop I found:
https://www.insightseminars.org/about-us
"John-Roger and Russell Bishop created Insight Seminars in 1978 to give people accessible tools for living a successful life. "
"his teachings are the foundation of Insight Seminars."
John-Roger | Founder"
I'll also note that John-Roger Hinkins DOES have a wikipedia page.  Mathiastck (talk) 23:24, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I undid that change, restoring mention of John-Roger Hinkins with comment:"undoing this change, it contradicts several other articles AND the current description at https://www.insightseminars.org/about-us , seemingly based on original research without source".  The change that had removed mention of Hinkins had comment: "Insight Seminars was founded and run by Russell Bishop for more than a year before John-Roger became involved. John-Roger was not a "founder". I know because I took the seminars in those years. I struck John-Roger from that sentence." which may be true but violates Wikipedia:No_original_research .  It would be great if we had a source for that claim, but it still wouldn't justify removing mention of Hinkins, especially given the other wikipedia pagers listing him as a founder and the mentions in https://www.insightseminars.org/about-us above.  Mathiastck (talk) 23:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  John-Roger no longer mentioned in article? 

message: I had some guests at my new years eve party who describe being survivors of this cult. There is a lot of information on how it is a cult online, but this Wikipedia article seems to have been written by a current member. These "seminars" are cult recruitment sessions, but to read this article alone, you'd think they were just self improvement seminars. I see there has also been an attempt to sanitize it by a member who tried to remove John-Roger Hinkins' association with Insight from this article, probably because his name has been tainted by media converge of his cult.
There is an extensive "Accusations of cultism, criminal conduct and abuse" section on his article. Some of that criticism should be mentioned here - without it, the article lacks balance and could inadvertently assuage fears of someone concerned about a family member who is getting to into them. A complete article rewrite is too big a project for me at the moment. Any other wikipedia editor who is good at researching weird new-age cults wanna take it on? Izzy Leonard (talk) 15:00, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article probably does not meet "neutral point of view" standards