Talk:Alloy wheel

message: Magnesium alloy wheel should be merged into this article.  There are so many alloys that differentiating between them is pointless.  171.71.37.29 20:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree they should be merged.  We could then make a clear distinction between magnesium alloy wheels and aluminium wheels, whilst still keeping them under the same generically used 'umbrella' term of 'alloy wheels'.  Teutonic Tamer 09:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Why is this article called "alloy wheel"?  
Rim + tire = wheel.  (i.e. Only the rim is alloy, while the tire is rubber) Socrates2008 (Talk) 12:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm . . . a rim plus a tyre does NOT equal a wheel!  A "rim" is merely a term for the outer edge of a wheel - in the same way that a "rim" is the outer edge of say a volcanic crater!  A "wheel" does NOT need to have a tyre attached to be called a wheel. -- Teutonic Tamer 22:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably down to regional/country differences in terminology. Socrates2008 (Talk) 22:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rim vs wheel

message: 189.42.228.115 (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Composition

message: The entry states: "The mass of typical magnesium automotive wheel is about 8–12 kg (depending on model)." which is unsourced and--as far my limited looking around has netted--inaccurate. For example: Axis Mag-lites 17x7 are 7.1kg; Hammann magnesium 19x8.5 are 8.2kg; Minilite Magnesium in 14x6 and 15x7 are 4.5 and 4.8kg, respectively; Nismo LM GT Magnesium 18x10(!) are still only 7.8kg. Certainly we could debate the word "typical" in this context as magnesium wheels are more apt to be used in a racing situation (and thus will be larger/heavier wheels as a result) versus a passenger car (where the "typical" wheel size should not even breach the 8 kg listed in the article). I've looked through this site: http://www.wheelweights.net/ and the heaviest magnesium wheel I found was 10.3 kg. Using only that source as a frequency guide I'd perhaps suggest a range closer to 5-9kg as being roughly 1.5-2 standard deviations about the mean. Any thoughts? EDIT: Logged in to re-sign Avram42 (talk) 13:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the appropriate section with my findings, address it as you will Avram42 (talk) 02:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheel weight/mass 

message: I separated this out from the "magnesium" section because the methods seem to apply to all alloys.  the language needs to be changed to reflect this and more detail needs to be added.  71.236.242.147 (talk) 04:13, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production methods 

message: This topic, "Alloy Wheels", begins with the statement -
"Alloy wheels are wheels that are made from an alloy of aluminium or magnesium. They are typically lighter for the same strength and provide better heat conduction and improved cosmetic appearance over steel wheels."
I find this strange as steel is itself an alloy. 
I refer to Wiki's page titled "Steel" which states -
"Steels are alloys of iron and carbon, widely used in construction and other applications because of their high tensile strengths and low costs. Carbon, other elements, and inclusions within iron act as hardening agents that prevent the movement of dislocations that otherwise occur in the crystal lattices of iron atoms."
The problem probably arises from the fact that many people through ignorance automatically relate the word "alloy" to something made of aluminium.
Please do not help perpetuate this error.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.155.75 (talk) 01:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is discussed in a bit more detail in the alloy article. Steel is indeed an alloy, but is so common in the production of wheels that they are simply referred to as "wheels." The term "alloy wheels" almost never refers to steel wheels. That is simply idiomatic. Language is funny that way, but, like dictionaries, we simply follow the trends; we don't set them. However, I don't think it would hurt to add a little clarification that steel is in fact an alloy as well, just not the alloy used in "alloy wheels." Zaereth (talk) 06:18, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit