Talk:Benigno Aquino III

message: "(pronounced [bɛˈniɡno aˈkino] in most Philippine languages, /bɛˈnɪɡnoʊ əˈkiːnoʊ/ in English)"
Parang ang stupid ng part na 'to. I have never seen any other article, anywhere else in wikipedia, that distinguishes the pronunciation of a person's name from the vernacular vis-a-vis the international. Not even Ninoy's article has this part. It's pointless; a person's name will always sound different depending on the accent of the person speaking it, and dictating a distinction regarding it is, in my opinion, in questionable taste. It messes up the tone of the article and is generally annoying. It's not as if the nature of his name changes with the pronunciation...you're just emphasizing the o's more for crying out loud.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.211.200.105 (talk) 20:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Instead of "Noynoy Aquino" wouldn't it be more appropriate to label him as "Benigno Aquino III"? The article about his father is titled "Benigno Aquino, Jr." and not "Ninoy Aquino". -- Adherent of the Enlightenment 10.0 (talk) 18:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Jr.'s article has to be eventually moved to Ninoy Aquino as per WP:COMMONNAME. –Howard the Duck 16:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Noynoy - Bayani Fernando or Noynoy - Roxas, I think there should be a section about the Vice President of Noynoy. This will make the article more informative.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.86.204.133 (talk) 08:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noynoy and the Best Vice President 

message: The whole part severely needs cleanup, and some other parts of the article as well. It's very messy.
"While Aquino currently enjoys considerable support, those who stand to lose from his victory in the presidential race claim that this can only be attributed to both his parents' successes and not his own."
-- Neutrality is of question. "Those who stand to lose" is a bias phrase. This was written in a personal manner.
"However, months after the death of his mother, his popularity remains strong and analysts say that his lead is a sure sign of victory, unless he is cheated or blunders heavily."
-- Footnote here, but the article stated 'analyst' (singular), not analysts. The name of the analyst should have also been included.
"But various documents have been released showing that he has accomplished much in his three years in the Senate."
-- Footnote here. This should have been linked to a 'supposed to be' article stating the 'various documents' proving his accomplishments, not to his legislative records (because legislative records per se are not synonymous to 'various documents').
"On a similar note, Noynoy's detractors have also pointed out that, at almost 50 years old he has neither a wife nor any children."
-- Footnote here. I don't believe that only the detractors are talking about his being unmarried at 50. Even Sen. Noynoy's supporters are talking about this. And the author on that referenced article didn't mention 'detractor' or any equivalent term.
"Aquino had lived with his mother, the former president, until her death, and has said if he becomes president, he would choose to live in his modest ancestral home than in the presidential palace."
-- Lack of reference.
Objectivity also lacks on the last paragraph:
Another issue is Noynoy's stake in his family's 7,500 hectare estate, Hacienda Luisita. His mother, the former president Corazon Aquino, was also criticized on these grounds, especially in failing to push for land redistribution reforms given their alleged conflict of interest. But the stock distribution option was ratified three times by a referanda by the farmer beneficiaries. In 2004, a clash with government troops and farms led to the massacre of 12 picketing farmers and 2 children and the injury of hundreds of other protesters. Aquino's side of the family, which owns a minuscule percentage, have met to deliberate how to turn over the land to farmers fairly while giving the farmers job security at such a time frame that the farmers will not absorb the land's many debts.
This has no reference whatsoever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ara008 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism Part 

message: People, he has the lead, but he hasn't won the election yet!Ulmanor (talk) 05:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  He hasn't won yet! 

message: After all, this is an encyclopedia. I don't think Britannica or any other encyclopedia would place this article entry as Noynoy Aquino in the same way that it won't place a John F. Kennedy entry as a JFK entry. If Wikipedia requests article contributions to sound as encyclopedic as possible, that rule should also apply to entry titles. If Time magazine, which is a magazine, would prefer to put "Benigno Aquino III" or "Corazon Aquino" on its cover instead of "Noynoy Aquino" etc., shouldn't an encyclopedia be more rigid? As for "Noynoy Aquino" having more searches than "Benigno Aquino III", isn't that what the redirect page is for, so much so that the difference in searches ratings would not really make a difference with the redirect? A "Noynoy Aquino" search in Google would still give you the Benigno Aquino III entry (and the first sentence of the entry which may include the clause "popularly known as Noynoy"), while a "Noynoy Aquino" Wikipedia search will simply lead one to the redirect page. Thus, the popular "NBA" search in Wikipedia would simply redirect one to its formal page, the "National Basketball Association" entry. The issue here is the formality or the seriousness of the entry qua encyclopedia entry. Benigno Aquino III is not, after all, the pop rock star Mandy Moore. Nor is "Noynoy Aquino" the pen name of Thomas Stearns Eliot. Unless, of course, "Noynoy Aquino" is now equal in weight to such a name as, say, "Che Guevara" or, yes, "Bill Clinton". ----Warpotato (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seconding request to move page to Benigno Aquino III 

message: Now that he's president-elect, could we perhaps to make this entry look more like, say, the entry on David Cameron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron)? Much more a cause for celebration if we can put up a sub-page like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_David_Cameron. The Liberal Party of the Philippines page (or any other Philippine political party page, for that matter) could also get a lot of home-improvement tips from such pages as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States), especially with such sections as "Ideology" and "Recent issue stances". With those, who knows maybe Wikipedia can help jumpstart an issue-based partisan politics in the Philippines! For how many more decades must we live through with Miriam Defensor-Santiagos jumping from one ideology to another each year in their lives, simply because encyclopedias too refuse to define political parties by these requisites? ----Warpotato (talk • contribs) 02:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The results of the 2010 Philippine general elections are still unofficial, Noynoy as President-elect is still unofficial, I voted for Noynoy, but still I'm waiting for the official word from COMELEC, so please do not add unofficial information, thank you... Gregorynovella (talk) 09:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: HE IS PRESIDENT ELECT, because he has not been proclaimed as president yet. Don't put Incumbent yet because Gloria Arroyo is still the Incumbent, unfortunately.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.230.114 (talk) 18:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To say that he is President-elect already is saying that he already won the elections, but that's not true, the results are still unofficial... Gregorynovella (talk) 23:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

text: A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected  president  but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. Similar terms can be used depending on the type and level of government, including prime ministers-elect, senators-elect, governors-elect, and mayors-elect.Gregorynovella (talk) 00:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now that he's president-elect . . . 

message: I nominate for Noynoy Aquino article to be locked from editing, even from registered users until official election results are final...
I'm sick and tired of editing and re-editing this article, because people insist not to wait for the official election results, and instead, they put that Noynoy is the President-elect and more so, people have put that he is the fifteenth President of the Philippines, I voted for Noynoy, but I'm waiting for the official results of the elections... Gregorynovella (talk) 23:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nominate for Noynoy Aquino article to be locked from editing, even from registered users until official election results are final 

message: When Barackbama's article was published as "President Elect," only the media networks called him as such, even when he was not officially the winner of the US election. One only becomes the winner of the presidential election in the US after the electoral college meets in each each state capitol a few weeks after the election, and a session of the House to count the electors for each state. The title "President Elect" was given to Obama right after a, take note, UNOFFICIAL call made by the media, way before the meeting of the electoral college and recognition of the House and Senate.
:In the same way, now that the media and everyone else have projected a win for Aquino, even before the joint session of Congress meets, then we can call Aquino President-elect. Btw, I was one of the few folks who decided to vote for the Gordon-Bayani ticket, and thus, my objectivity on the matter.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.229.103 (talk) 14:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you cite examples of the Philippine media, like ABS-CBN or GMA7 calling Noynoy as President-elect? According to Wikipedia, a president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president  but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president, please note, a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, has Noynoy already won the elections, no, we are still waiting for the official word on the results of the elections, and so what if the American media called Obama, President-elect when the results were still unofficial, they are wrong, they just twisted the meaning of President-elect, and so, we must follow the meaning of President-elect... Gregorynovella (talk) 08:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Some stations are using "president apparent", a liberal play perhaps on "heir apparent". "Apparent winner" is more correct, but---right---why not just wait for later days unless one has a meaty item to add here, like, say, "Apparent winner Aquino, as if echoing his mother's decision to take her oath before an associate justice instead of Marcos' chief justice . . ." --Warpotato (talk) 06:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: President Elect

message: Shouldn't the article mention about Noynoy's smoking, since the media, government and certain politicians are making it a big deal?Gregorynovella (talk) 11:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noynoy smoking... 

message: Please protect this article by tomorrow (June 9, 2010) as the proclamation will be done by Joint Session of the Philippine Congress for Benigno Simeon "Noynoy" Aquino III. On-going vandalism is imminent.
--Wikiblitz88  04:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Requests for page protection must be made at WP:RFPP. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protect Article 

message: This is from: Aquino promises justice as Philippines president:
Gregorynovella (talk) 13:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  where can we put Noynoy's plans as president in the article? 

message: Noynoy designates himself as Benigno S. Aquino III, not Benigno C. Aquino III, I know that C means Cojuangco, but Noynoy doesn't designate himself as Benigno C. Aquino III, the references are already been cited on the article, so please stop! Gregorynovella (talk) 05:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop changing Noynoy's name!!!!! 

message: No edit made, as I see no indication that this page is currently semi-protected and even if it was, the user who added the edit request should not have been restricted from editing a semi-protected page. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant that we should put this under protection because they will be constant revisions in the future. Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 14:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please review WP:PP. From my knothole there does not appear to be valid justification for protection at this time. Pages are not protected pre-emptively, nor are they protected to prevent people from making good faith, non-vandalism edits just because you or I don't like them. Additionally, there does not appear to be a high level of vandalism at this time. An admin already declined your request to semi-protect this article this morning . If vandalism on this page increases, feel free to bring it back to WP:RFPP. I'm watching this article too, and if I see anything that justifies protection I certainly will request it. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Added by {{user|Rizalninoynapoleon}}

message: I nominate the removal of the website *General discussion community about President Noynoy Aquino as it falls under the category of links to be avoided, specifically under #10, which states that one should avoid "Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups". Wikipedia:External_Links#Normally_to_be_avoided. Since the website is a forum website, it should be promptly deleted. I acknowledge that a user has directed me to "Read the statement before item #1" which clearly states that "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should generally avoid", but the website IS NOT a official page. -L Kensington (talk • contribs)
:I've filed an RFPP on this. It seems some people just want to put it in and discuss inclusion later...when it is actually the other way around. --Eaglestorm (talk) 05:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of external link

message: Recently I added the Official blog of Benigno 'Noynoy' Aquino III, but was reverted by Active Banana, stating that "if its linked from official sites, there is no need to add to this linkfarm", but the blog has no physical link in Aquino's official website, which I do not understand, but it shares the hostname, "noynoy.ph", which is the official website's hostname, so I nominate for the inclusion of the external link, being that it is associated officially with Aquino, please reply ASAP, thank you... Gregorynovella (talk) 04:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Read and understand WP:EL. There are now too many external links. The external links section is not a directory. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of External Link.... 

message: Previously the article has a section on what Noynoy did (or did not do) in the Senate. That was a nicely-referenced section and was balanced since there was Noynoy's side in it. That should be brought back. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 17:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zero laws passed 

message: this is certainly better than a start class article, at least c if not b. Can someone review it?Lihaas (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: I have noticed the occurrence of too much "Aquino" in the article. For example, has anybody of you see a single paragraph that introduces him, Benigno Aquino III (not Cory or Ninoy) as the main subject and does not mention any character? I guess that's the time when pronoun should be used, "Aquino was the leading candidate in tallied votes for President, and in the official Congressional canvass, Aquino was the leading candidate in canvassed votes for President" so much for repeating the same name again and again especially if we could replace it by "he". Can somebody fix this?
Also, it appears to me that the Presidency section looks like a wiki diary of Aquino's daily activities. For example, the statement 
 is nothing much of importance.
And important activities such as the issuance of EO 2 is described one-liner. I hope that there are some lines discussing such executive orders clearer and with some media/people reactions in it. If there is none, then the section really appears like a diary of all his activities with less to no importance.
Alarmingly, some contents from the "Presidency of..." article also appears in the Presidency section of this article. What is your say about that?--— JL 09 talk (site)contribs    14:10, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronoun and other article issues 

message: I haven't been following the development of this article, but I noticed today that it contains a large number of external links in the body of the article. 
Please note point number two at WP:ELPOINTS, in the Wikipedia:External links content guideline. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That problem has even worsened. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links in the body of the article 

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He graduated in 1981 with a Bachelor's degree in Economics, Summa Cum Laude.[3][15] He was one of the students of former professor of economics at Ateneo de Manila University, former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.118.135 (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graduated "summa cum laude"? 

message: The Senate section has been written by someone close, or is a fan, of the person. The paragraphs are unsourced and there are too many praises heaped. Exemples:
:: Another significant Aquino contribution to the Philippines' corruption problem is Senate Bill 203 (Delete significant)
:: Aquino filed other reform-oriented, well-thought-out types of bills, (well-thought-out? who said this?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvching (talk • contribs) 08:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senate section's bias tag 

message: Isn't he actually dating Grace Lee as of May 2012? The section "personal life" seems to be, very surprisingly, outdated. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grace Lee 

message: Instead of enumerating all bills he signed, the section should rather ramify in broader formulations his relevant policies - sometimes a tight rope act, I know. You should make it readable for the international readership. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 13:55, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As of now, you can encompass his policiy in three big topics: anti-corruption-drive, infrastructure projects and poverty reduction. Foreign policy contains the the South China Sea/West Philippine Sea dispute. And since there is an own article on Aquino III's presidency that can be summarized. Avoid redundancy. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "Presidency" 

message: The whole enumerations of executive orders he signed can be put in the lemma Presidency of Benigno Aquino III. But still, for an outside reader rather unusual to list every order he signed. The section (not the whole article) gives rather an unprofessional impression. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: "Although the official residence of the President is the Malacañang Palace, Aquino actually resides in the Bahay Pangarap (House of Dreams), located within the Palace grounds."
I'm expecting an overview of the most important elements on this topic and I get served up which part of the palace the President is sleeping in? Please do better. 124.148.177.170 (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this in the lead of this article? 

message: ...which is the Presidency section. Will it be appropriate if level 3, or also 4, headings will be added. I notice that the content of that section may be further subdivided or simplified, as there is a main article for it. Japanese Rail Fan (talk) 13:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  We have a long section in the article... 

message: Doesn't he have any profession or why obliterating that field? 112.198.90.146 (talk) 06:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aquino's profession 

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message: In the intro change “Aquino officially announced this candidacy in the 2010 presidential election” to “Aquino officially announced *his* candidacy in the 2010 presidential election” Szakyl (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Living Concrete (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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message: In the lead, please change "his administration met criticism for a botched military operation that killed..." to "his administration met criticism for the Mamasapano clash, a botched military operation that killed..."; and also change "his administration filed an unprecedented arbitration case..." to "his administration filed an arbitration case, Philippines v. China...". Easter eggs are both unnecessary and irritating, and the word "unprecedented" doesn't appear anywhere else in this article or the article on the case. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:A493:399A:93E6:FB3F (talk) 11:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Living Concrete (talk) 02:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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message: Please change the over-long and awkward sentence, "Aquino is also credited for his confrontational foreign policy; his administration filed an arbitration case, Philippines v. China, before the Permanent Court of Arbitration in an attempt to invalidate China's claims in the South China Sea and asserted his own country's claims in the area, where the court ruled in favor of the Philippines", by changing the semicolon after "foreign policy" to a period, changing the comma after "claims in the area" to a semicolon, and removing the "where" immediately following, i.e. "Aquino is also credited for his confrontational foreign policy. His administration filed an arbitration case, Philippines v. China, before the Permanent Court of Arbitration in an attempt to invalidate China's claims in the South China Sea and asserted his own country's claims in the area; the court ruled in favor of the Philippines." 2001:BB6:4713:4858:571:9827:1FAE:E99C (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Run n Fly (talk) 19:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide reliable sources for what? I don't want to change content, I only want to change punctuation and grammar. How can you provide a source for that? 2001:BB6:4713:4858:6DA5:B2D5:902F:7FA2 (talk) 11:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . , read the request a little more carefully. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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message: There is an iteration of “moros” that refers to Muslim people but links to something from greek mythology. 107.115.207.46 (talk) 03:17, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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message: Benigno Aquino and his mother have official Chinese names not included in the Wikipedia pages. I feel it would be outstanding if the people of the Philippines found out that their presidents have some unique and cultural backgrounds. Check the Chinese Wikipedia about the Cojuanco family for Benigno and Coryzon's Chinese names. 
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A8%B1%E5%AF%B0%E5%93%A5%E5%AE%B6%E6%97%8F There's also a whole bunch of sources there. I'm pretty sure you may or may not know how to edit this into the 2 pages. Chinaman2345 (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 04:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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