Talk:Sam Manekshaw

message: -Sam Manekshaw is a Parsi from India. I thought Parsis usually consider themselves Persian. Thats what I read in the article on Freddie Mercury.
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Parsis have been in India since 12 centuries and have assimilated into general Indian population. Even their language is Gujarati which is Indian. See Parsi people article. Theres no way you can call a Parsi and Iranian, its akin to calling an American whose ancestors landed in New England in 1600's an Englishman! अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 06:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Iranian or Indian?

message: Is Manekshaw alive?.. I guess not... There is no mention of how he died...  Strange...
Leningrad
:Your guess is the thing that is strange here. Bharatveer 12:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Death?

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Sdsouza 20:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment

message: The use of capitals in this article was hopeless. Obviously it wasn't the work of only one person (too inconsistent for that!).
Ordinary words like captain as the name of a rank rather than with a name in a title do not take a capital. "He was a captain in the army and served with my friend Captain Maneshaw". Phrases such as "army plans", "military plans" should not be given capitals. See the article Bernard Montgomery for something approaching a sane use of capitals. Read, learn, and inwardly digest. Jagdfeld (talk) 10:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitals

message: Is this correct? Both he and his wife were Parsis. Final repose is usually at the Towers of Silence, not underground. Jellytussle (talk) 11:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Buried, see cited Times of India article. --Bejnar (talk) 18:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Burial in Ooty?

message: His obits in this magazine said he was linked to bizarre allegations, what are they? July 5th 2008 page 95  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.187.151.49 (talk) 17:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Economist

message: Made some grammmatical and format related edits to the quotes section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barnikel (talk • contribs) 04:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Small edits

message: In May 2007, Gohar Ayub Khan claimed that retired Indian Army Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw had sold some of Indian Army secrets to Pakistan during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 for 20,000 rupees, but his accusations were dismissed by the Indian defence establishment. 
I have added the above to this article because it is mentioned on Gohar Ayub page.Wikitanoli (talk) 20:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Gohar Ayubs claim

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Manekshaw#Post-independence
In the section titled 'Post-independence'(link above), the fifth line reads "...capturing Domel and Muzaffarabad. The following day, the ruler of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir, Maharaja Hari Singh. On 25 October,..." 
The sentence does not make sense. Can someone fix it?
14.139.38.140 (talk) 08:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Not totally sure if what I've added is correct but it is in line with what's written in Jammu and Kashmir.--regentspark (comment) 15:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete sentence 

message: It is stated in the article that our dear Sam Bahadur's pension arrears were held for a long time and paid to him only at the intervention of APJ Abdul Kalam, shortly before he died. 
However this Quint article seems to claim that his family denied this claim. Link: https://www.thequint.com/news/webqoof/gaurav-aryas-claims-about-army-sam-manekshaws-pensions-are-fake-fact-check
At the same time this article by an officer, Lt Gen SK Sinha, who knew and served with him, claims he discussed the matter with him before he died. Link: http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/the-making-of-a-field-marshall/   (corrected the link)
All other sources seem to be just sensationalised retellings; that are just echoing the story with no sources or fact checking. 
I have great respect for both gentlemen, who have served India well in difficult times and deserve every accolade bestowed on them. I have had the great honor of meeting APJ Abdul Kalam while he was president, and he was every bit as impressive as all the stories told about him. The story narrated on the basis on this point on pension arrears is also inspirational, no less because it is claimed in some stories that Sam donated it to the Army Relief Fund. 
Regardless of my feelings for either of these iconic figures, our duty to the truth stands higher. Neither would have wanted such a thing to be said falsely of them. Their legacy does not need to besmirched with falsehoods. While I will try to find more corroborating sources...I must admit, I am no expert. If there are fact checkers here who could help verify the veracity of this claim, we will have done their memory a service either way.
Shard7 (talk) 19:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Pension Claims?