Talk:Mercedes Lackey

message: I have moved the content from the separate pages for By The Sword and Oathblood onto the main page, and converted those pages into redirects. Both pages were stubs. In the case of By The Sword  I have expanded and corected the content a good deal, as well. DES 28 June 2005 21:21 (UTC)
:I initially came to ask another question, but first: have you noticed that someone has restarted the By The Sword article? I only did whilst reading this discussion. Anyway, the other question. What to do with the link on this (Mercedes Lackey) page to Oathblood now? It redirects back to this page. Just remove the link and make it italicised, or what? --Telsa 16:55, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now simply removed that link. I've also removed a few more links in the Serrated Edge stories: they link to entirely the wrong pages. See next topic :) Telsa 17:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merges 

message: This page has something like 70 book titles as links. Of those which are blue links rather than red, they are links to anything from Elizabeth Taylor Greenfield (ca. 1824–1876 ... the best-known black concert artist of her time) to disambiguation pages. Is there really an encyclopaedia article in every single one of Lackey's books, including compilations of her short stories?  I can see that there is in the Arrows books, and possibly the Vanyel books. But in general, would it not be better to have articles on "SERRAted Edge (Mercedes Lackey)", "Bardic Voices (Mercedes Lackey)" and so on? And then all the information can be collected in one place for each, and book details all on the same pages? Now that the Oathblood info is on the main page, I shall try and demonstrate what I mean with the Vows and Honour series as an example. Telsa 17:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My own suggestion would be to link the book titles to, where available, complete works or sample chapters.  Baen has a lot of Lackey's books available for free in their entirety, either via Webscriptions or via the CDs hosted on the web with permission; many of those not would have sample chapters available.  I made some such links in the paragraphs I added talking about the stories the other day. --Robotech_Master 17:49, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Whilst I largely agree with you, that link went down earlier today, (right as I was reading one of them): the same message now appears all over as on the main page: the maintainer can't afford the bandwidth since it suddenly shot through the roof, so has removed the CDs. I am having difficulty locating the equivalent pages on the Baen site so far. If you know where they are, some link updates are needed! In addition, it is possible that the links should be in an External links section towards the end? I am not sure on this, though.. Telsa 22:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: All these links to book titles

message: As I was looking over this article I was thinking that maybe readers would like to know the publishing order of the Velgarth series and/or the Chronological order of the books.  I would like to do that but I thought I'd bounce it off someone first.  I know I personally like to know the chronological order of various large series (like Pern) so that I can have a good feel of where I am when I pick up a given book.
Also in the question of if the various series are moved to seperate articles and the name for the Queen's Own, Last Hearld Mage, Gryphons, Mage Winds, etc.  I would hightly suggest calling it the Velgarth series since some of them have nothing to do with Valdemar.
:Looking at the order in the article, they do seem to be in a silly order, yes. Neither quite chronological order nor quite publishing order. I think it would make most sense to do it by chronological order. The publishing order went something like first gryphon book, first Mage Winds book, second gryphon book, second Mage Winds book, and so on, jumping 2,000 years each time. Similarly, the final part of the Oaththingies books came out years and years after the first two, supplanting the one about Kerowyn. This would not be a helpful order to new readers!
 
:But we also have periods where different series all cover the same period and events. I think it would be best to do the order by series rather than by book. Trying to interleave By the Sword (which covers a very long period of time) with Exile's Valor (assassination attempt on Selaney) and the Talia trilogy (Talia coming to ask Rethwellan for help) is going to be as confusing as the original publication order. 
:I'd think of them as in an order along the lines of: the Mage Wars; the Last Herald Mage; Brightly Burning; Oathblood trilogy; Alberich pair; Take a Thief; the Arrows trilogy; Mage Winds; Mage Storms; Owl*ight... and where to stick By the Sword is the problem then, which I leave up to others :) 
:Finally, despite the recent arrival of The Halfblood Chronicles as a separate page, I am still a little wary of separating them all off into their own series. This article is getting long, but if it is packed with information, is that a bad thing? The first things I would personally split off are the Valdemar/Velgarth ones: that would be a big meaty article. I wouldn't have seen the Elvenblood books as the obvious candidate to start with. 
:Telsa 16:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the best order would be based upon publication order, only not breaking up trilogies.  So, group the trilogies, and then order them based on the publication of the first book thereof.  To me that's logical because chances are that's how they'll be read, or at least how I tend to read series like this. Meichigo (talk) 05:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Velgarth series order 

message: Does anyone know of (or can we create?) a detailed valdemar timeline. I get very confused trying to work out how old folk were at various events, and estimated DOBs for Kethry, Tarma, Kerowyn, Selenay, Elspeth along with dates for the Tedrel wars and the Ancar wars would be helpful. I can't find it on ML's website. -- SGBailey 23:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Valdemar Timeline

message: I've been a friend of Misty & Larry, lived on their property for a time, and wrote the title story, "Sword of Ice."  The "story" about the child being killed is fact.  I've spoken with their bodyguard at the time.  He's still bothered by that he was the one who took the child to the father on the day that the murder happened, even though a judge ordered it.
Not quite so sure about the Con incident, but SOMETHING happened to keep them away from their adoring fans.:)
The studio fire is fact. That he (Larry) joined the volunteer fire department weeks later is a major stretch, though they did donate to that fire dept.
Timeline is available in several of the books, within the first few pages.
I'd call it Valdemar.  That's what she and the publishers always called it, what it's known by.
I fixed the error about either of them being falconers... and if Larry practiced Aikido for more than three consecutive weeks, I'll chew glass... but I digress.;)
(I'll attest that I was in Aikido classes, weekly, with Larry for at least 12 months - Paul Fisher)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.139.18 (talk) 12:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I can confirm Falc is who he says he is (John Yezegulian sp?). On that note, I'd be willing to take his word for it.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 21:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks... sorry you've retired. I'd have liked to have made contact, figured out where we know each other.  Write me if you happen to see this. --JT 22:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misty Lackey  

message: Her favorite book that she has written is By the Sword, and her easiest to write was anything about Tarma and Kethry.
Lackey's 'dream cast' list for her best known books is as follows:
    * Falconsbane: David Bowie
    * Firesong: Sting
    * Kerowyn: Cher
    * Lavan Firestorm: Haley Joel Osment
    * Tarma: Lucy Lawless
    * Vanyel: Johnny Depp''
This part is in her biography, but it doesn't tell anything about her life--it tells about her personal opinions in a list.
There are also no citations in this article done properly... And is it me, or did someone delete the Creative Commons photo she released? I also think it's missing dates, relevant information, missing proper Biography format and has too much opinion on her fictional works, versus that of the author....--Hitsuji Kinno 09:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations and clean up

message: I have just read 'Burning Water' and 'Children of the Night'.  In Children of the Night, the character Andre is 'met', and Diana does a favor for the Rom (with the help of Andre and others).  In 'Burning Water', both Andre and the nickname the Rom call her and the favor the Rom owes her are all referenced.  So in terms of plot, 'Children of the Night' comes before 'Burning Water'.  Now as far as why the publication dates don't reflect this, I have no idea.
--Thortok2000  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.107.33.122 (talk) 23:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diana Tregarde Series Order

message: 70-80% of this article is about the novels Lackey has written.  While these of are course important considering her profession...I almost wonder if we should create an entirely different "Works by Mercedes Lackey" page with a link under the third heading.  Thoughts?  --Violine (talk) 04:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Page?

message: I've just removed what appears to be a hoax. For a book that was supposedly released last year, google returns zero results outside of this page. Its unfathomable for an author of this status.--Crossmr (talk) 09:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titan of Medulan 

message: This article is long to the point of being unwieldy and apparently does little more than chronicle information about books the author has written.  So I'm going to make a bold step and start pulling chunks of this article for a bibliography/works by/whatever article for the author.  I realize that there is a collections page - but that page is both out of date and not suited for an entire bibliography.
In this process I'll probably also be hitting a bunch of stuff that is unsourced and/or irrelevant (especially since there's been that note up since early 2009).  Darquis (talk) 02:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: http://www.nanowrimo.org/node/3853430
I thought that was worth citing for position on fan fiction.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 23:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fanfiction II

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 'Lackey was born in Chicago, an event that prevented her father from being called to serve in the Korean War.[2]'
Could someone clarify? This isn't covered in the link.
I assume it was her birth that prevented her father being called to fight, not her being born in Chicago. I've never heard of that being regarded as an inherently burdensome circumstance.
Regards to all
Notreallydavid (talk) 16:09, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth 

message: Um. Parrots aren't raptors? Someone familiar with the sources needs to rearrange this bird stuff. Thmazing (talk) 19:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parrots 

message: I see "She met C. J. Cherryh through filk, and she mentored her during the writing of her 'Arrows' series" in the Professional Sales section, but it's not clear who mentored who.
Crimchyet (talk) 20:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, the repeated pronouns were ambiguous. I rewrote it. Schazjmd (talk) 20:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing text 

message: I have no idea whether this is reliable, sensationalized, dead puppy propaganda, or what.  I came across it by accident.  Quick web search shows the basic claims are true, but I didn't check details. 2601:644:8501:4500:0:0:0:8F37 (talk) 07:39, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  wut