Talk:Tridentine Mass

message: I don't know where to put the fact that although gender segregation was traditionally practiced, it is not practiced in American Tridentine Mass anymore, although the practice survives in Europe(correct me if i'm wrong)Akj150 (talk) 01:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't comment on practices aside from where I have attended Masses, but in no German TLMs, and I have attended them in several Parish churches in Frankfurt, Berlin, Nuremberg, Regensburg, at the FSSP seminary in Wigratzbad, and in two Munich parishes, have I found segregated naves.Caisson 06 (talk) 03:46, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

text: I presume such separation was even less universal in America than in Europe, where it was the practice in some parishes, but not all - in spite of being recommended in the 1917 Code of Canon Law.  In any case, it was not prescribed in the Missal and so is, I think, off-topic.Lima (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to hazzard a guess that it was likely between the world wars. Caisson 06 (talk) 21:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: gender segregation during Mass

message: Given that it's most recently been referred to as such by the highest authority on the matter. "Tridentine Mass" as a name for the Mass is historically inaccurate as what is referred to as the "Tridentine Mass" is essentially the same Mass from a thousand years prior to the Council of Trent with all the extra prayers added in over the years removed that made the liturgy too long. There is also an article titled 'Extraordinary form of the Roman Rite' already so perhaps this one should be merged into that one.
:I don't agree that it should be changed. "Extraordinary Form" is a controversial term by coined by Benedict in 2007. "Tridentine Mass" is how it is referred to in most literature and is generally accepted by other prolific Catholic groups such as the SSPX, Sedevacantist, etc. It would make more sense to simply explain the historical consistency of the Roman Rite (prior to the Novus Ordo Rite being called the "Roman Rite") in the article. 71.233.70.210 (talk) 05:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, "Tridentine Mass" seems to be the preferred term in historical academia, as it dovetails with the Counter-Reformation theory. I think "Missal of Pope XXX" is preferable for specific references. Rick Jelliffe (talk) 12:17, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page should be titled "Extraordinary form of the Roman Rite" 

message: This article has a confused and overlapping scope with other articles. The hatnote claims that this article is only about the historical situation and to see Preconciliar rites after the Second Vatican Council. Yet at the end of this "Tridentine Mass" article we have "Present practice" and lots of stuff about the post-Vatican II, modern up-to-the-minute situation for the TLM. So which is it going to be? Elizium23 (talk) 08:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done the split. I think the confusion was due to the Preconciliar rites after the Second Vatican Council article being created only recently. Veverve (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope of article topic