Talk:Medzhybizh

message: Before we start another revert war, here is one source that specifically uses Sieniawski: 
Google print link.  Plus, the whole family, which provided many Commonwealth hetmans, is frequently referred to by the Polish spelling in books listed on Google Print.
If you want to "depolonize" the spelling, please provide English-language sources that would justify this.
Finally, if you really think the Polish form should not be used, then consider moving the whole Mikołaj Sieniawski article, and discuss things on that talk page. Balcer 14:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said ad nauseum before, all the articles on 15th-century and 16th-century Lithuanian nobles should be moved to their Ruthenian names, as those nobles had no Polish and would have revolted to see themselves referred to by Polish monickers. I know that fighting polonization in this project is next to impossible so I leave the task to Ukrainian and Belarusian editors. If they like some of the most important Ukrainian/Belarusian historical personalities to sit at Polish names, well, it's their choice. --Ghirla | talk 15:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I take it concensus has not been reached in favor of such a move. Still, I must say I missed out on that discussion.  Can you tell me where it was conducted?   Anyway, I would suggest transparent linking to the Mikołaj Sieniawski article for now, as such direct linking to the actual article name seems to be a good practice.  If you have some good sources that show the name should be changed, please present them on Talk:Mikołaj Sieniawski. Balcer 15:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Check Talk:Michael Glinski, for example. --Ghirla | talk 15:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: A long-simmering editorial dispute between  and  over how to deal with information about certain Hasidic topics has reached the Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal. Please see and provide any helpful input at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-04-29 Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty). Thank you, IZAK 16:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty) at Mediation Cabal 

message: The last time I visited Medzhibozh, I was told that the stone fortress-like synagogue was that of R. Sirkes. To me it looked very old, which would match. To claim it is the Apter Rebbe's shul (which would be not that old in the scheme of things in Ukraine), we need a citation. That's news to me and other references (c.f. Chapin & Weinstock, p. 133).--Klezmer (talk) 22:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synagogue 

message: Here it's listed as Międzybórz, Międzyborz or Międzybóż. The Polish Wikipedia has it as Międzybuż or Międzyboż. Any thoughts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.180.150.112 (talk) 19:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyplace I've ever seen it spelled in Polish, it's always Międzybóż. But these documents are from the 18th century. Don't know how it was spelled in Polish before or since. c.f. Rosman, M. Founder of Hasidism 1996, , who has reproduced many original documents from that era.--Klezmer (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

text: There seems to be controversy about the exact spelling of Medzhybizh in Polish. At least in old Polish, it is spelled with a diacritical mark over the last o. See for instance Rosman's usage in the reference cited above. And if you don't believe Rosman, here's a document I found in the Czartoryski Archive from 1758 with the same spelling. And don't tell me it comes from a different town, because there's all kinds of evidence that it's from the town we are talking about in this article. --Klezmer (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: And while we're discussing the origin of the name of the town, I've visited the region and can attest to the locals claiming the river is indeed the Bug river, meaning "God" in the local language. At least that's what they've told me. In fact, they call it the Yuzhny Bug River, meaning the Southern Bug, to distinguish it from the more well-known northern counterpart.--Klezmer (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Also, while we're discussing the name in various languages, I can't find one reference that has the German spelling as now listed in the article. I have several German maps - one from WWI and another from WWII and they seem to use the Polish spelling.--Klezmer (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish name 

message: The recent history of the article shows a revert war in which three editors repeatedly revert each other's versions of the article to their own previous version. Matters are made worse by the fact that few of the statements under dispute are supported by references, thus it's one editor's opinion against another.  Please stop, reflect on Wiki's principles, and collaborate via this page.  In particular, please stop reverting multiple edits to multiple sections; this is very disruptive.  Instead, please improve one point at a time, supplying sources to support each change and accurately describing the change in the edit summary.  Thanks -- Timberframe (talk) 09:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would also be nice if the edit warriors stated point by point what there problem with the article is (1, 2, etc.) -- Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop these reverts and start collaborating 

message: The article uses both versions of the river name.  Can we settle on one version or the other for consistency within the article? (Redirects already exist so changing the name where it is wikilinked is no problem).
For my two-penne'th I'd suggest we use the Ukrainin transliteration, Buh, since that is the contemporary national language of the loaction.  Of the three present occurrences of Bug two are in a contemporary context (caption to a modern photo and "sites to see) which seem unjustified.  The only occurrence where I would consider that the historical context may justify using a former spelling is in "Earliest history" where the river is mentioned in the context of an era of Polish administration.
-- Timberframe (talk) 11:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Modern Ukrainian maps have Southern Buh. I would suggest we use that one. And I guess the origin is unclear. Even though it seems to have been pronounced Boh or Bog in Polish it doesn't have to have the meaning God . Närking (talk) 20:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bug / Buh 

message: Forgive me for insulting what I'm guessing are the relatives of contributors, but the last third or so of [list of famous people] seems to be made up of people who aren't actually famous. The list starts with Sirkes and the Baal Shem Tov, but by the end we're reading about tailors and bankers of no particular note -- as evidenced by none of them having pages of their own. I don't mean to say their stories aren't interesting -- as a descendant of a tailor from Medzhybizh, I was happy to see their stories, but I would cast a vote for their removal. I hesitate to do it myself without first raising the issue, as this seems to happen in lots of articles.
Rabdill (talk) 01:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notoriety of "Famous people associated with Medzhybizh" 

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