Talk:Objectivism (disambiguation)

message: Even if Rand or another authoritative objectivist would have disagreed vehemently with any particular neo-objectivist idea, the idea still is "descended from" Objectivism if Rand's thoughts inspired the neo-objectivist.  I removed the qualifier from the description of neo-objectivism saying that it is a body of ideas "claiming to be" descended from Objectivism.  'Descended from' is not the same as 'follows directly from', and a descendent philosophy can differ from an ancestral philosophy. 71.217.2.132 (talk) 02:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neo-Objectivist Ideas "Claim to be" Descended from Objectivism?

message: There are currently both an Objectivism dab page and an Objectivism (disambiguation) dab page. This needs to be fixed. Dekimasu 11:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: May I ask: why is this a disambiguation page when the only thing listed among the disambiguations that is called (just) Objectivism is Ayn Rand's deal?  Shouldn't Objectivism by itself just redirect to Rand's stuff if that's the only thing called (just) Objectivism in the Wikipedia?  If so, why so, if not, why not?  Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.69.160.1 (talk) 19:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double disambiguation 

message: I'm curious why Substantialism redirects to the Objectivism disambiguation page.  Dictionary.com refers to Substantialism in philosophy as "the doctrine that substantial noumena exist as a basis for phenomena."  Especially in the sense of noumena which are themselves inaccessible to direct experience, this seems to go against the materialism generally defined by Objectivist philosophy--and against Ayn Rand's general dislike of Kant.  I'm thinking that Substantialism merits its own article, separate to objectivism.  Unfortunately, I'm not an expert on the topic.  Any thoughts?--Pariah (talk) 21:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Substantialism redirect 

message: My major concern:
Ayn Rand picked the name Objectivism for her philosophy, but then again so have other philosophers before her. To simply give Ayn Rand the article Objectivism (which in all honesty should go to Gottlob Frege's use of the word considering he is the one who first used the term even if its a small "o", contrary to Ayn Rands capital "O".) while the real article on the general and primary definition of objectivism is called objectivity does strike me as rather odd.
It implies that the real objectivism is Ayn Rands philosophy and that people might call objectivity for objectivism but that it isn't correct. And that is plain wrong.
"Objectivism, the support of philosophical objectivity" -- would simply be better. :)
Honestly someone should make a page on Gottlob Frege's objectivism - and call it objectivism_(Gottlob_Frege). Sadly I am not good enough at english for it, though I have read quite a bit of Gottlob Frege's works - quite interesting I might admit even if I have my own objections and I haven't understood all yet ^^
While I agree with some of Ayn Rands ideas, its important to point out for Objectivist zealots that objectivism and objectivist are valid for other people than just randians ^^
My minor concern:
Can someone please explain why there is a specific link to the Objectivist movement? Because honestly, if people are searching for the Objectivist movement it would be reasonable they find it through the page on Ayn Rand's philosophy - such as Communist movements are mentioned on the communist page.
Just think it would be better mentioned on the page for her philosohpy than here. In short, if it makes it clearer and easier to find your way around, keep it that way. If its a rare exception, then change it :)
As I said, I am sadly not good enough to make changes myself, since I haven't mastered the english language, so I will simply voice my opinions here and hope that better people agree with me and can make the necessary changes.
Mandarni (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Objectivist movement 

message: See Talk:Objectivism (Ayn Rand)#Naming of the DAB page, and suggest in the first instance comment there rather than here. Andrewa (talk) 13:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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