Talk:Analytic language

message: What is the article intended to be about?  It is titled "Analytic language", and most of the text is about analytic languages, but begins by defining isolating languages, which it (by the way) explains are a different concept from analytic languages.  If they are different concepts, they should have different articles. -Pgan002 23:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analytic language or isolation language? 

message: : Thus, the formation of German plurals is a simple, rule-governed inflectional pattern.
Call that simple? Of the languages that I know of, German is among the most complicated ones in terms of formation of noun plurals. Yes, there are rules/patterns, but there are many of them. Some nouns have two plural forms, depending on context: Wort - Wörter - Worte.--84.188.136.83 01:51, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple?! 

message: The box never says what
 der Mann 	die Männer
mean in English. Jidanni (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mann

message: I don't think the example sentence contrasts the sythetic nature of English with analytic languages well enough, as it only has two words with more than one morpheme: "friend-s" and "egg-s". I would suggest a replacement, but I don't know any analytic languages.  02:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the context is important. The English isn't a transcription, it's the equivalent meaning. We don't have "life days" but the Chinese and Koreans (생일) do. 203.229.115.58 06:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example sentence 

message: It seems to me that the example of hypercorrectness provided at the end of the article is in fact no such thing, since the sentence provided is simply correct, albeit with non-colloquial placement of the terms of the subject.
non-coloquial placement of terms of the subject?  what do you mean by that?  i can see hypercorrectness in the last sentence
: I think he means the subject placement makes the sentence seem overly formal. Which has something to do with hypercorrectness anyway.
Is the hypercorrect sentence actually correct?  Shouldn't it be the shipmaster saluting 'her', not saluting 'she'? -- --Avanu 02:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon closer inspection, it appears that both of the examples at the end of the article are incorrect.  In fact, I can't understand what is being said with the entire sentence.  Are the examples supposed to be incorrect?  The author of this last segment needs to make his point a little clearer.  Doctor Love 17:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example of Hyperrcorrectness 

message: the suoyou and dou here looks to me to be redundant as the sentence could do with just either of them still be correct (in Mandarin and not Cantonese).
what's done here is similar to people using zhǐ(只) + éryǐ(而已), e.g. "wǒ zhǐ huì zhōngwén éryǐ", where either can be used alone.
: YES BUT the point of this article is to show Chinese as an ANALYTIC LANGUAGE, not argue over the fine points of Chinese expression. The example sentence sucks, any better ideas? 203.218.91.193 15:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by in Mandarin and not Cantonese?Hillgentleman 07:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: A common expression: You eat already rice not yet? = Nei5 Sik9 Zo2 Fan6 Mei6? (Cantonese) = Ni3 Chi4 le Fan4 mei2 you3? (National Chinese) = Have you eaten or not?'(English).  Even the word you=Nei=Ni can be omitted --Hillgentleman 07:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Another example, of Li Bai: Bed front bright moon light, confused be ground above frost.  =  zong tzin ming yuD GUONG, yi sI dEI seUNG SEUNG (Cantonese; capital letter= high tone or rising pitch) = The bright moon light in front of my bed  I mistook for ground frost..Hillgentleman 07:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese example "suoyou + dou" 

message: Macedonian is arguably as much so. -Iopq 13:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgarian is not the only Slavic analytic language 

message: Are there any sources for this paragraph? Bulgarian (and it's western dialect) are certainly not analytic. Their nouns are inflected for gender, number, definiteness and case. Here are some examples: čovek (man), čoveci (men), čovekǎt (the man), čovecite (the men); or vǎlk (wolf), vǎlci (wolves), vǎlkǎt (the wolf), vǎlcite (the wolves). 
As for the Balkan sprachbund, how did Bulgarian purportedly acquire this feature from there? Albanian, Greek and Romanian nouns are more inflected than German nouns which the article presents as the ultimate example of an inflected language.--Domitius 12:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bulgarian is not analytic -- just look at it's verbs! FilipeS (talk) 22:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Totally agreed. Bulgarian is certainly not analytic, and is more analytic than Spanish or German, which are listed earlier in the article as being synthetic. Macedonian is listed in there as well, which is equally non-analytic. Jassummisko (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgarian 

message: "The currently most prominent and widely used analytic language is modern English [...]"
This seems to be a strange statement when you have "Chinese" on your list of analytic languages...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.6.62 (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlike English, Chinese is not "widely used". That's why.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dddcg (talk • contribs) 13:46, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Derp. Glad to see this sockpuppeteer's account has been shut down. I do think a better source is needed, however, for English as a "mostly analytic" language. The current source is a personal page hosted by the University of Massachusetts that appears to be course notes. Jazzcowboy (talk) 11:10, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  cultural bias 

message: Many of the linguistics articles on Wikipedia are difficult for the "average reader" to understand, but this one has to set some sort of record.  It is completely incomprehensible.  While I understand the concept of WP:SOFIXIT, I don't feel that I am the one to do so.  Indeed, I feel I would need to earn several degrees (in addition to the B.A. and J.D. I already have) just to be able to read it. Neutron (talk) 07:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give examples of what is particularly difficult to understand? Seems to me it does a decent job at explanation concepts; it even explains basic linguistic concepts like "inflection" in the body.--Megaman en m (talk) 09:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ...don't you think you should rephrase that?  

message: Bulgarian (and Macedonian) still preserve the vocative case. -- BonsMans1 (talk•contributions), 14:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgarian (and Macedonian) are mostly but not fully analytic  

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