Talk:Glutamate flavoring

message: I like your improvement to the text from the MSG article, but I wonder whether this wouldn't make more sense at Umami. I realize that the umami is somewhat conceptually different (and I believe that couple of other dissolved amino acids produce a similar though less intense umami sensations, though that's not currently reflected in the article), but it seems like the topics of these articles overlap extensively. Cool Hand Luke 21:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think we should keep them separate. There are more compounds that taste umami and the main content on this page is specifically about glutamate as a food additive and constituent. Сасусlе 21:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge with Glutamic acid and create a chapter about food use. To merge with Umami (other compound elicits umami taste) or with monosodium glutamante (it's a different chemical) is irrelevant. Sensonet (talk) 12:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with umami?

message: :However, monosodium glutamate is still thought of as suspect by a large proportion of the general public, and many foods continue to be labeled "MSG free".
This is a general claim and is properly misleading without proper wording. The general public in most Asian countries probably don't consider msg suspect, and it wouldn't surprise me if the same is ture in most African, Eastern European and South American countries don't consider it suspect either. The source used partially supports the claim but doesn't really provide proper context as to what areas the author is referring to although one suspects its the the Western world Nil Einne (talk) 08:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  General public 

message: Here is what I read in Japanese wikipedia. The syndrome may be due to a simple case of MSG overdose. Unlike salt, one can add large dose of MSG to food and food remain edible. Vapour (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: MSG overdose

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message: The glutamate levels of nutritional yeast. Badagnani (talk) 05:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to add 

message: Adding MSG is more and more becoming a liability for the food industry. One example is the marketing controversy between the two soup makers Campell and Progresso. RS that could be included in the article are here: "Mm-Mm Militant: Campbell Goes After Progresso" and "Soup War Continues, Progresso Strikes Back" MaxPont (talk) 07:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Marketing controversy about MSG

message: The issue of health risks for humans based on MSG, in my view, is highly downplayed in this article and the related article Monosodium glutamate. There is much discussion on the MSG talk page about the possibility of pro-MSG people being involved in a consistent campaign to downplay the risks, and my sense is that this is a serious possibility. For example, when I added a well-referenced piece of information from a respected scientist (Robert Sapolsky of Stanford) about MSG concerns, my addition was reverted. The lead sections of both articles don't even mention health risks -- the only clue that readers might get would be to look at the hatnote at the top of the MSG article with the mild-sounding wording "health concerns", but mostly the verbiage suggests there's no cause for worry. Both articles in my view are not addressing the issue of health concerns in a fair manner; it needs more attention, more prominence in the lead paragraphs, and more references.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Scroll down to "Safety as a flavor enhancer" and you'll see it. I think maybe the redirect needs fixed so that it redirects to that section. --sciencewatcher (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

text: This looks like a google issue. If you google "chinese restaurant syndrome" it directs to "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate_flavoring", whereas the wikipedia "chinese restaurant syndrome" article actually redirects to the correct location, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate_flavoring#Safety_as_a_flavor_enhancer. Does anyone know how to fix this? --sciencewatcher (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

text: I followed the link from "List of common misconceptions" about "Chinese restaurant syndrome", having realized I typically experience those very symptoms after eating at Oriental restaurants (and nowhere else!), being surprised I wasn't the only one who gets headaches, and wanting to learn about it. But there's nothing here except for "not caused by MSG". Perhaps it should have its own page - while MSG may well not be the cause, that doesn't rule out the existence of the syndrome.184.0.143.99 (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality issues

message: I just came across an article and paper discussing squid ink. Apparently glutamic acid is one of the free amino acids with highest concentration in it. Should anyone care to dig deeper and add this to the page, here are the links: http://www.gourmet.com/food/2009/02/squid-ink http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17393278  Vitriolum (talk) 14:49, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: In Squid Ink

message: There needs to more support for alternate names for this chemical. I myself don't like chemicals having alternate names, but there are many organic ones based around the food chain that still do. 
MSG is known by other names on food products 
* Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein
* Textured Vegetable Protein
* Autolyzed Yeast, Yeast Extract, Yeast Food or Yeast Nutrient
* Glutamic Acid (E 620), Glutamate (E 620)
* Monopotassium Glutamate (E 622)
* Calcium Glutamate (E 623)
* Monoammonium Glutamate (E 624)
* Magnesium Glutamate (E 625)
* Natrium Glutamate
* Calcium Caseinate, Sodium Caseinate
* Textured Protein
* Soy Protein, Soy Protein Concentrate, Soy Protein Isolate
* Whey Protein, Whey Protein Concentrate
Like with Caffiene, MSG can give some people headaches and the alternate names make it harder to track down. Eyreland (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate names 

message: I don't think that MSG qualifies as an excitotoxin. It seems to me that the extended entry here and the "see also" link back to this article from the excitotoxin article are an attempt to state that MSG is dangerous without saying so directly. My question is, is the large section on excitotoxins appropriate for an article like this on the face of it (whether MSG is an excitotoxin or not), and should it be noted here that the excitotoxin article is itself in dispute?
I concur. The implication of that section is that MSG is dangerous, especially for people not knowing about the excitotoxin debate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.219.106 (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excitotoxicity 

message: I don't want to change the text without being sure, but does anyone agree with me that the simple preposition 'on' in the final sentence of the section changes the whole meaning of the sentence in a wrong direction, and that it should be replaced by 'in'?  Asterisked in the extract pasted below.
   "....and the potential long-term neurodegenerative effects of small-to-moderate spikes on* [?in] plasma excitotoxin levels."   
Dmhball~enwiki (talk) 13:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong preposition?

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support I am the nominator -- 76.65.128.112 (talk) 13:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: At the top of this article, we have "For the chemical compound monosodium glutamate (MSG), see monosodium glutamate." And then there is a large section in here about MSG. There are 32 refs to monosodium glutamate and 18 refs to MSG here. Since this is a slightly broader topic, including both the acid and its salts, I propose/plan to move MSG here or move the MSG info there.
Alrich44 (talk) 00:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move MSG info to MSG article or combine MSG here 

message: Most of the sources in this section are decades old, and it seems to focus extensively on the relatively fringe views of a single scientist, John Olney, who has been outspoken in his campaign for greater regulation of MSG.  Are there any other sources we can cite, or any more recent papers we can reference? --Aquillion (talk) 08:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excitotoxicity section 

message: Did that big blue notice seriously have to be there? It is bothersome and has no good reason to be there except to show (all so loudly) that the editor directly quoted a whole book portion in that specific section. I thought a simple ref + paraphrasing would do fine, and would flow with the Wikipedia tone better. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!)  05:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the copyvio notice, as there wasn't actually a copyright violation. The section WAS actually paraphrased (have a look at that section of the book on amazon and you'll see). I think the person who added that notice didn't quite understand the difference between "copyright violation" and paraphrasing! --sciencewatcher (talk) 15:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I was the one who added that copyvio notice. The blue notice seemed to indicate he pulled it directly from a source, instead of paraphrasing from it (which a ref does MUCH MUCH better job at). Maybe we can turn that notice into a ref after all. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!)  21:54, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Timeline" section 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Lately an addition was added to this entry:
" It is often the subject of controversy due to multiple online rumours spread around Israel in 2011 but these are false."
I'm curious whether it's true or not since it is not mentioned again in the entry and would like to get a source.
Thank you  YouKnowTwo (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't know anything about rumours in Israel 9 years ago. When I came across the article, that statement struck me as potentially false. Regardless, it was not sourced and wasn't the sort of comment that you should find in the lead section, so I removed it. If you look at the article's history, you can see that that sentence was added on 3 May 2020 by someone using an anonymous IP address. It was the only edit made from that IP address. Glumatate flavouring, and particularly monosodium glutamate, has been the subject of rumours for decades (see Glutamate_flavoring#Controversy or look up MSG symptom complex/Chinese restaurant syndrome). Hope that helps. gobonobo + c 16:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumors around Israel - source? 

message: The article would benefit from a description of what happens to ingested MSG in a human body. --BjKa (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metabolizing 

message: Worst mistake of my life DragonMaster9817 (talk) 16:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dont try to find MSG by googling its other name E621