Talk:B'Day/Archive 1

message: The singles count is completely WRONG in this article. The singles are as follows:
1. Deja Vu
2. Ring The Alarm (US Only)
3. Irreplaceable
4. Beautiful Liar
5. Get Me Bodied (US Only)
6. Amor Gitano (Only Certain Latin speaking countries)
Upgrade U was not a single, It was simply a song that managed to climb the charts due to high airplay.
Suga Mama and Freakum Dress were simply not singles.
Green Light was meant & scheduled to be a single, but was scrapped last minute
Listen was a single from the Dreamgirls soundtrack, NOT from B'Day!
NOTE: Just because a song has a music video does NOT mean it's a single!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.22.110 (talk) 01:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Singles

message: Could someone help me find or even edit the page with some figures to what number of Sales did Beyonce's album got for every Charts. Thanks. BritandBeyonce 12:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I Need Numbers

message: The Album was certified with gold in germany for selling 100,000 copies.
Could someone add that her album has now sold almost 7 million copies worldwide!!!!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.42.165.75 (talk) 11:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Certification in germany

message: STOP DELETING TRAJECTORIES AND OTHER VALUBLE PARTS IN THE ARTICAL LIKE THE SALES IN THE CHARTS BOX. THIS ARTICAL IS BECOMING MORE SMALL EACH DAY. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE ADD SOME OF THE TRADJECTORIES AGAIN AND ADD SALES!!!!!!!!
                                                          
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.137.114.243 (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: STOP DELETING

message: WHY DID YOU DELETE THE FREAKUM DRESS PAGE IT DOES HAVE A MUSIC VIDEO IT WAS FILMED BY RAY KAY IT EVEN SAYS IT ON HIS MYSPACE PUT IT UP AGAIN I HAVE SOURCE OR REFS FOR IT ASND IF U DONT U HAVE TO DELETE ALL SONG ARTICLES APART FROM SINGLES. ITS NOT FAIR PEOPLE WORK HARD ON THESE. I REMEMBER SOURCES ON IT SO WHY DID U DELETE IT.
Kogoho 01:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: THIS IS SERIOUS

message: The song that Ryan Leslie produced Keep Giving Your Love To Me, is it on B'Day or Diddy's Press Play b/c Diddy is featured on it.
where's the song Back Up, i heard that's another bonus. but for where?
Circuit City!!! Mjbjosh 01:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bonus?? 

message: I deleted the amount of pre-orders because this figure it not confirmed by anyone. This is Wikipedia, not a rumour mill.
:I agree; the information hasn't been verified - its also untrue. Plenty of albums have sold more than 700k in their first week - so more copies had to have been shipped before the release, its simple maths. Rimmers 20:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Sales according to fist day sales and according to Hits Daily Double she is set to seel between 600 to 650 thousand copies and she has not had 700,000 copies in pre-orders can whoever is writing that stop because it is not true.
I know. Media Take Out were even reporting 200,000 copies of predicted sales but I hope this info was false. Hits Daily Double were saying that she is expected to sell over 600K, and they are usually quite near to the actual figures. I think this article can do without rumoured numbers for a week. In less than a week we'll get accurate numbers.
^^^ i hope it is accurate because i have reported it everywhere.
Now that we have the correct sales figures, it turns out that B'Day had the third best first week sales this year behind Rascal Flatts' "Me and My Gang" and Tool's "10,000 Days". Mjbjosh 19:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales Are Not 700K

message: I want to know why is somebody constantly deleting the chart info for Japan. If the #4 spot or the sales figures are false, leave information in the discussion thread. Mjbjosh 11:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charts 

message: I think the correct title is B'day not B'Day, at least that's how AMG writes it.
Funk Junkie 22:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Everywhere else it says B'Day. Even in mail I've received from Sony BMG, so.. – (empoor) 08:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: B'Day or B'day?

message: the sales figures you keep posting ARE FAKE...stop inflating her numbers...someone put that she has already sold 1 million in the USA when she has ONLY SOLD 863,000 according to SOUNDSCAN--stop inflating all her numbers please because this only makes her look like a fool
No - I have heard that the album is platinum BECAUSE the RIAA counts the albums SHIPPED, not sold. so the album very well could be Platinum with 900,000 SALES (confirmed as of October 11).
The album is not certified anything yet , but it WILL most likely be certified platinum when it qualifies (read RIAA certification rules, its does not qualify unless it's been in stores for full four weeks) and when the record company pays for the album to be certified. There are countless albums that have sold more than they have been certified, but the certifications have not been updated because the labels have not payed the RIAA fees. Mjbjosh 18:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Keeps taking away sale figures 

message: I keep changing it back to the way its supposed to be but she keeps changing it and making it sicked and twisted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CoolBradG (talk • contribs) 00:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MCE is vandalizing the article, please help 

message: Can someone please add the trajectories again if you can find them because someone deleted them and if you can find out the sales for the album each week for the Billboard 200 that would be great.
:Chart trajectories should not be added to song articles since they constitute an indiscriminate collection of information and contribute little to an article.  You may want to read WP:MUSIC/CHARTS#Chart trajectories.  —ShadowHalo
I never said to put it on the songs i asked to put it on the ALBUM PAGE!!!!!!!
:My apologies.  Song, album, neither one should have chart trajectories, as stated at WP:CHARTS.  ShadowHalo 04:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trajectories (Help Please)

message: *I added the other unreleased songs from this album. 67.149.154.75 06:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Unreleased

message: I've gone ahead and changed B'day to B’Day, incorrect punctuation was being utilised. It also helps establish that B’Day signifies Birth Day, not Birthday. --Speakslowly 07:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That can't be typed on the keyboard and All Music Guide and Amazon have it the other way. Epson291 08:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: What Speakslowly (aka Noé Æ) wrote to justify moving the page on 11 January doesn't make sense. The character clearly is an apostrophe, which is given as a typewriter apostrophe ( ' ) rather than a typographic apostrophe ( ’ ) in Wikipedia articles and page names (such as D'Artagnan, D'Hondt method and Tess of the d'Urbervilles). It doesn't matter whether the apostrophe is used to show omission or for any other purpose; that has nothing to do with typography. For consistency, I am going to move the page back to B'Day. --Bwiki 23:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: B'Day → B’Day

message: Should the tracklisting "Welcome To Hollywood" be just "Hollywood"?  That's how it's written on the wiki page it's linked to. Tommy22028 01:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hollywood 

message: This album shares its name with a sanitary product. I wonder if Beyonce realised that when she named it? Does the article mention that it's called B'day  because it was released becasue it was her birthday?Nukleoptra 17:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm no but that's kinda obvious: look at the album release date(s?) and go to her biography. Look at her birthdate. ― LADY GALAXY ★彡  Refill/lol 02:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: something humorous I noticed

message: Someone has added a whole section about the single releases.
My question is, why? 
All the info is included in the song articles - so what is the point of duplicating it on the album article? I'd like to see it removed. Opinions? Rimmers 21:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles section 

message: Added A Pic I Added A Pic Of My Copy Of B'day Deluxe Edition (Discs). I Took The Picture Myself. Should I Add One Of y Copy Of The Standar Edition Also?--MicP 17:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added A New Pic To Article 

message: The article goes against Wikipedia, MoS, and the WikiProject in many ways, most obviously with regard to track listings.  When I get time I'll overhaul it, if no-one beats me to it. --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 18:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: Stop deleting Still In Love (Kissing You) from the US Deluxe Edition tracklist!  The CD has been pulled from the market, it has not been replaced with a new version without the song!
In fact, they still are selling it in some stores!!! Stopitplease92 16:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop deleting Still In Love from the Deluxe Tracklist 

message: i dont know why but while ive been on vacation the order of all of beyonces singles have been rearranged. ive fixed it according to all the actual release dates. 71.42.177.194 20:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Singles Chronology

message: Hey people the sales worldwide of bday are 5.419.075 and not 4,125,00 or something like that that someone put on the page so could someone please change it 
Source :
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38025&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=5050
:My dear, I was the one who posted it and your source is only a forum site. Put back the figure i edited recently, Please...BritandBeyonce 12:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bday sales world wide 

message: I was in Wal-Mart last week and I saw a new, different Deluxe without "Still in Love (Kissing You)". It had World Wide Woman as track eight instead, and also contains "If". Wal-Mart page. Ian-sama 22:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's the Asian Edition. BritandBeyonce 00:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No.... that's listed on the page... plus it was in a Wal-Mart in Chattanooga in the featured section... Ian-sama 09:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It is probably a correction in response to the lawsuit filed by Des'Ree, who sang "I'm Kissing You," the original version of "Still in Love (Kissing You)," which was to not be reititled or made into a music video, according to the lawsuit.  Bulldoggie101 20:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Deluxe Edition 

message: I wonder why does many pages on B'Day deleted. Like the page entitled "Creole (song)" was deleted. Another one, the page for "Still In Love (Kissing You)" is also deleted. Many pictures from B'Day Deluxe Edition was removed. Also, "Freakum Dress" page was deleted, but why? It provides an information that is not on the "B'Day" page. For example, the page for "Creole" has lots of information but someone will redirect it on B'Day. Can we collect lots of information on the "B'Day" page like "Creole" has provided? But why redirect pages and delete pages, instead of improving, editing or creating a new one? Also, the picture/single cover of "Upgrade U" has been removed. What is going on with WikiPedia? Also, I edited the B'Day page for several times, making it correct, but users keep on changing it. I'm so tired about this. I always fix anything about music. I always sleep late at night just for this, but I always forget my password so I created a new one. (This is my new account, formerly known as "Adam levine ian bagg", "Chris daughtry", "GoodCharlotteLeadVocals", "Joel Madden Good Charlotte" and "Bautistakaizer"). Please help me fix this. Beyoncé Superfanatic 08:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with several of these articles is that they provide false/unsourced information and where about songs that never really mattered. creole was never intended to be a single, it was leaked very early so people believed that. the cover used on the upgrade u page is fan made. no official source shows this image used at all. freakum dress may have a video but nothing much was ever done to promote the song and it didnt have a cd release. Still In Love (Kissing You) is the only article i see worth keeping because of the drama surrounding it but it should be kept under its original title "Kissing You" Ratizi1 04:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does many pages related on B'Day deleted/redirected? 

message: To inform those WikiEditors ummm, Freakum Dress video appeared in Australia, so is this a single for Australia or not? Explode24 09:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When and what show? Do you have a source to cite? BritandBeyonce 06:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The show was: VideoHits (Firsts) and it was today! and I don't have any source.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Explode24 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Freakum Dress

message: Why is it that the page doesn't have any figures to show the worldwide sale of the album where in fact other albums from other artist have and we have a reliable site to cite? BritandBeyonce 12:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

message: The link provided on the page does not supply any information about her cumulative sales, if anyone can come up with something better please notify me.  76.237.219.10 (talk) 10:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  United world Chart Certification

message: Hello all,
I read in this article that the Deluxe edition has been pulled due to the compliant by Des'ree. However I went to my local Wal-Mart last night and they had the CD (for $5.00! USD) and DVD with "Still in Love (Kissing You)" on it. After this, I'm thinking the statement about it being pulling could be incorrect - or it could be my local Wal-Mart is slow in pulling stuff off the shelves. Comments? - Thanks, Hoshie 12:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Has the Deluxe edition ''really'' been pulled? 

message: I reworded much of the article, but I left the core facts alone. Only grammatical errors were revised. I was also wondering about the brief summary of the movie Dream Girls found in the article, namely if it could be moved to the actual Dream Girls Article
LikeHolyWater (talk) 21:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should mention a bit about the film because it was the critical moments where Beyonce found inspiration in making this album. At least, an overview. What do you think? By the way, thanks for the revamp. I've been waiting someone will do that. Thanks, very. --Efe (talk) 08:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: What section can we found that line? --Efe (talk) 02:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It should not be in the lead. --Efe (talk) 05:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Revision

message: "During the filing of the case, the deluxe edition has been shipped a hundred of thousands of copy."
What case...and why does that sentence not make sense anyway?82.21.204.72 (talk) 19:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When the lawsuit was filed, thousands were shipped but further distribution was ceased. --Efe (talk) 06:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  fools 

message: the source for her sales seems to be missing and someone changed it from the 6 million to seven million, I'm changing it back, at least the previous statement had a source.PhoenixPrince (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. Its not reliable. --Efe (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales 

message: I feel that entire section is pointless since it essentially restates information from different portions from the album. It should be deleted.PhoenixPrince (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is. Its just it was horribly written (by me). I will fix it. --Efe (talk) 01:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrical Content Section 

message: This whole page is a lot of craven, sycophantic rubbish. The tone is that of a breathless Fox News reporter furiously masturbating as they read the autocue of their dreams. It makes me wish the internet handn't been invented.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.216.27 (talk) 10:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Craven rubbish 

message: Country           	Certification                                                                             	Sales/shipmentsCertification award levels
Australia         	PlatinumAustralian Certifications 2007 ARIA. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                    	70,000
Belgium           	GoldBelgian Certification+Charts 8/09/2007 Ultratop. Retrieved April 19, 2008.            	25,000
Canada            	PlatinumCanadian Certification database CRIA. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                   	100,000
France            	SilverFrench Certifications O + Sales IFPI. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                     	74,700
Japan             	PlatinumJapanese sales 20/11/2006. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                              	220,000
New Zealand       	PlatinumNew Zealand Certification July 16 2007 RIANZ. Retrieved April 19, 2008.           	15,000
Switzerland       	GoldSwiss Certifications 2007 Swisscharts. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                      	15,000
United Kingdom    	2x PlatinumBritish Certification database BPI. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                  	807,000
United States     	3x Platinum (CD)US Certifications database RIAA. Retrieved April 19, 2008.                	3,000,000
United States     	2x Platinum (CD+DVD)US Certifications database RIAA. Retrieved April 19, 2008.            	200,000
United World Chart	2x PlatinumYear End Chart 2006 Year End Chart 2007 Mediatraffic. Retrieved April 19, 2008.	6,080,000www.worldwidealbums.net/2006.htm
Do we need to state certifications from different countries? --Efe (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiple chart and information

message: --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you to Efe who got the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review  

message: The beggining of the 'Critical reviews' section states that "Contemporary critics gave the album mixed reviews", however the 'Proffesional reviews' section in the box disagrees with this, as does the metacritic score of 70% ("generally favourable reviews"). Unless 'Critical reviews' are in some way distinguishable from 'Professional reviews' this needs to be changed. Redemption Face (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone changed it already. --Efe (talk) 03:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical acclaim 

message: I feel that it should be mentioned that Resentment is a cover version of a song originally sung by Victoria Beckham. The song was released in 2004 with the dvd "The Réal Beckhams". What also is quite funny is that although the versions seem lyrically and composition-wise the same, Beyoncé is listed as a cowriter in (and only in) her version. Gloriously (talk) 07:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Beyoncé raised the key and changed several lines in her version. If you compare hers with the original, there are in fact places where the words are changed. She also switched up the parts to create a definitive chorus to the song, so that's why she got a songwriting credit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.87.160.2 (talk) 01:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was acknowledged before until someone removed it. --Efe (talk) 03:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resentment's origin