Talk:ARIA Charts

message: *I've removed some information that pre-dates ARIA & therefore is not related to this topic. I'm thinking to start adding pages for weekly ARIA singles charts to Wikipedia, does anyone have a suitable table or format these should be in? ZlatkoT 14:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ARIA singles charts on Wikipedia

message: I agree to the suggestion and someone should be adding more topics to the achivements page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrya (talk • contribs) 07:20, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARIA Charts 

message: I can't help but feel that the news that Brazin will cease providing ARIA with sales data should be mentioned in the article. Brazin owns Sanity, HMV and Virgin Megastore, and the absence of these three (arguably only two, I don't know how big VM is) major music outlets' sales from the charts is sure to skew them in some manner--though it's likely too early to tell where.
Does anyone feel like adding this somewhere? I wouldn't know where to put it, and don't know much about it. Here's a couple of links for anyone who wants to do some research: , , . - 211.28.136.87 11:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the requested information, although I wasn't aware of it before now.  There seems to be an awful lot of duplication surrounding ARIA - we have separate articles for the ARIA charts, ARIA Music Awards and Australian Recording Industry Association.  I think the information about the ARIA awards on this page could probably be removed, since they have their own article.  Anybody disagree?  Also, just a suggestion, perhaps this page should be renamed "Motorola ARIA charts" to come into line with the official name of the charts these days. Phil500 08:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was recently announced (November 11) amid little fanfare, that Brazin has now recommenced contributing to the ARIA charts (see references).  I've changed the article to reflect this.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brazin/ARIA split

message: The ARIA founding date (1983) post-dates any chart success The Beatles had before that therefore is not an ARIA fact.ZlatkoT 08:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ARIA founding date

message: Does anyone know where you can find the history of the highest point reached for singles or albums. i can't find artist single/album positions on the ARIA website, only the end of year positions and the single/album accreditations. --Aljohnston 02:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ARIA Chart Positions History

message: Does anyone know a good spot to find the whole 100 positions of ARIA. And suitably an archive going back to 2003 or 2002? Tcatron565 14:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, yeah this website  has the ARIA Reports achived since 2001, but if you want top 50 charts since 1989, here's a good wesite . Lillygirl 00:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ARIA 100

message: Would it be possible to get a list of the songs/artists that reached #1 on ARIA Urban, Club Play and (discontinued) Alternative charts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan86 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other chart #1s 

message: Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend" did not debut at number 1. It debuted at number 3 and moved up to number 1 in its second week. You can visit http://www.australian-charts.com for proof. I have removed the part that said it debuted at number 1.
211.30.60.106 02:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Avril Lavigne

message: Doesn't the printed release come on Saturday nowadays? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 666ph666 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Printed release 

message: Didn't I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair by sandi thom top the aria charts for ten weeks between sexyback and saints are coming?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sungkwo (talk • contribs) 13:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ommited No.1 

message: According to Madonna singles discography, she has had 12 number one songs from 11 singles. The heading of the section in which this is listed under is just labelled as "hits" and does not clearly define what qualifies. I'm referring to "Angel" and "Into the Groove". According to footnote 4, both songs were on the one record, but both songs went to number one. Perhaps some clarification is needed. I believe this should say 12, not 11. It was listed as 11 before "4 Minutes" went to #1. --Lakeyboy (talk) 04:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Madonna number one hit count

message: Don't mean to be picky, but somehow it looks like singer-songwriter P!nks highly successful I'm Not Dead album has been accidentally left out.  As of June 2008 the album returned to the Top 40 ARIA album chart and by July 2008 had a total 98 weeks in the Top 40.  And wasn't this a no. 1 album for many weeks??  Its already 8 times platinum, and some have predicted it well ultimately sell more than Farhnams' Whispering Jack album.  This one album also had 6 (or was it 5?) Top 5 singles in Australia as well.
This is from I'm Not Dead album reference on P!nks wikipedia page:-
The album spent a record sixty-two consecutive weeks in the top ten, and as of August 2007, it was certified eight times platinum by ARIA for shipments of 560,000 copies. Pink's most successful album in Australia, it was the second best selling album of both 2006 and 2007, and the number-one selling album by an American or a female artist in each year. According to australian-chart.com, I'm Not Dead is ranked first in the best of all time list with 3,821 points. On the week of 16/06/08, the album re-entered the charts at number 35 resulting the 94th week on the Australian charts.
I do not know the exact statistics for this album and songs off this album, but can someone please add this worthy album, and singles, into the ARIA achievements page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Music Maverick (talk • contribs) 08:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[P!nk]]

message: I removed the large Trivia section on the following bases:
* Very little of it has to do with the topic of the article "ARIA Charts", which only date from 1988.
* With the songs with "most weeks at", etc, they are calculated using a raft of different measuring sticks (even just during the ARIA phase alone let alone the fact we are basing it on 3 different reports!) and therefore are not directly comparable. For example, the introduction of Aria-Net in 1997(?) made a big difference as the sample size was a lot greater. Look at the unpredictability and randomness of charts in 1988 and 1996 which did not have a big sample size (at one point in 1996 just seven of WA's stores were being surveyed for example as they'd depended rather too heavily on one chain which went bust).
* There were no sources provided for any of the information so it was impossible to check. I can personally check the ARIA era stuff from my own collection but it is of dubious encyclopaedic value anyway to begin with.
* "Biggest drop in the top 50" is not terribly useful as it relates to position numbers only, and excludes big falls into positions below 50. Most of these are due to record company cancellations rather than genuine falls in popularity, and these started happening with increasing frequency from the mid-90s onward. Again, almost impossible to verify encyclopaedically.
It seemed suspiciously like listcruft to me and add in the verifications issue and one has something of a problem. The sources that can tell you what happens with one single (which is useful in that single's article) are suddenly quite useless when looking at comparing different songs over different eras. As one of the pages (WP:V?) says, strong claims require strong evidence. I think the focus should be on the title, "ARIA Charts", and remembering not everything that happened in Australia over the last 50 years falls under that banner. That's why we have the lists. Orderinchaos 10:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: The certification-award-levels were raised in Australia in 1989, the article states that the levels were reduced. The Platinum-award-level before 1989 was 50,000 and for Gold=25,000. See this article for example which was published in the Billboard magazine in November of 1979. Note that it states By 1979 "Best of ABBA" had sold 1.1 million copies, earning 22x Platinum, that's 50,000 x 22 Platinums=1,100,000. Also note in the beginning of the article where it states The "Waterloo" album moved past double platinum, and "ABBA" was moving towards an unbelievable half-million (or 10x Platinum). The previous levels stated in ARIA Charts article needs to be corrected or removed altogether since there is no specific source that can be provided.--Harout72 (talk) 18:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  That may have been true for 1979, but the certifications levels must have later been increased to 50,000 for gold and 100,000 for platinum, as it was definitely reduced from those figures in 1989.  I remember reading an article making reference to it in the Australian edition of Smash Hits in either 1989 or 1990.  Furthermore, relatively few singles or albums achieved certification in 1988.  See this thread online for a list of ARIA certifications, with italicised listings from the period where 'greater sales (were) required for accreditation': http://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=40595&pages= Nqr9 (talk) 00:42, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't rely on that source you provided as it's a forum. But in 1981, the level for Platinum album was still 50,000 units, see this Billboard article (under "Fight Economics"). It says the album, The Simon & Garfunkel Collection (released in 1981) has gone Triple Platinum (150,000 units), the same is for Men at Work's Business as Usual also released in 1981. But in 1984, the Platinum level had already been raised to 70,000 units, see this article by Billboard again, it says: Talking Head's album, Stop Making Sense released in Sep. 1984, has sold 250,000 units (or over triple Platinum). I'm not sure if the levels were later raised again for only a few years before 1989.--Harout72 (talk) 01:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Here's a photo from the Kent Music Report, which published Australia's official national chart between 1974 and mid-1988, listing platinum and gold awards for 1982 - https://i.imgur.com/NpZJgfQ.jpg .  As you'll see, platinum for singles is listed as being sales of 100,000, and gold 50,000.  For albums, platinum is listed as being 50,000, and gold (not shown in this image, but on the following page, which I can upload if you wish to see it) as 20,000.Nqr9 (talk) 09:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for that, it's definitely a useful information. Yes please, if it's not too much trouble, would you upload the page listing the Gold certification level for albums also? Thanks.--Harout72 (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's the page showing that gold for albums was 20,000 copies in 1982 - https://i.imgur.com/9ODk2zx.jpg .Nqr9 (talk) 07:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.--Harout72 (talk) 13:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: ARIA's Certification-award-levels prior to 1989

message: Proposal to rename, where appropriate, national music charts articles to territory and format rather than official name, so Swedish music charts rather than Sverigetopplistan, etc. Discussion at  Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts#National Albums/Music Charts. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:58, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this would be suitable for the ARIA chart, because there were 2 different major Australian charts between June 1988 and early 1998.  ARIA was the self-proclaimed 'official' chart during this period, as it was sponsored by the recording industry; but the Kent Music Report (under the name of the Kent Music Report) was also widely used during that period.Nqr9 (talk) 11:45, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: National albums/music charts

message: Does anyone else think that 2000-2009 #1's inclusive pages should be collapsed into a single page covering the whole decade, as for the 1940s to 1990s decade pages?  Surely the 00's decade wasn't that important to require an individual page for each year's #1's (and the same for this decade when it's over... perhaps a 2010-2014 page in the interim)?Nqr9 (talk) 05:19, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to pages for #1 albums/singles of each year 

message: It is not included in the article as a component chart Cornerstonepicker (talk) 04:48, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Streaming on the charts 

message: I note the Pandora Archive hosts the weekly ARIA Report back till 2001 . Does anyone know where you can find copies older than this? Specifically I'm looking for 1998 and 1999. Ping me back here if you can help. Thanks. Damien Linnane (talk) 12:43, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've since discovered you can purchase individual back issues of the ARIA Report by emailing ARIA. Individual copies are $4.25 or you can purchase an entire year for $220. Copies are in PDF and emailed to you. They seem to be happy enough to confirm if certain songs charted outside the Top 40/50 if you ask email them as well. The ARIA Report itself, however, only lists the Top 100 positions. I inquired about two songs and ARIA confirmed to me that one charted at No. 103 and the other at No. 168, but since the ARIA Report only lists the Top 100 there's no way to reference that even if I ordered the report. Damien Linnane (talk) 01:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARIA Report prior to 2001 

message: In the past few months, I have noticed ARIA Singles Chart peak positions for many artists including peak positions outside of the top 100. Some of these are completely nonsensical (number 512, number 368 in a given week).
Does anyone know why this was done just for Australia, the information source, and a remedy? It should really be top 100 only, and if not, then it didn't chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.35.184.104 (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Replying to IP user 78.35.184.104, who did not sign this post.  I've added many of these outside the top 100 ARIA peaks to discographies, though have always added a reference (usually an anonymised email screenshot).  ARIA calculated the chart beyond #100 dating back to January 1989, and it now extends into the thousands.  Only a top 100 is published, in the ARIA Report, but chart positions beyond #100 exist on their database.Nqr9 (talk) 13:42, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

text: IP user 78.35.184.104 replying to Ngr9. Just because they calculate them, doesn't mean they should be reported on Wikipedia, cluttering artists' discographies. What is your rationale for showing that a song peaked at #426 in Australia for example? Would it not be better to just say that it didn't chart and leave a - as is done for the entries of all other countries? I feel you have made a really odd choice here, and should remedy it by removing these entries.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.14.217.25 (talk) 21:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARIA chart peak positions - very low numbers (not top 100)  

message: The last issue on the here  was 30 September 2019, is there anywhere else that I can find an archive from October onwards, the ariacharts.com  website only has the current week then the following week it is removed.
DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 13:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, , see  - it looks as though the journal stopped publishing after that month, and I couldn't see any website snapshots beyond that. I'd start by contacting ARIA directly first, then PANDORA to ask about later website snapshots. (Trove is going to launch a new version of their website within a couple of weeks, but I don't think this will help if they're not there!) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 13:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The ARIA Report is definitely still being published, and distributed to subscribers.  I don't know about Pandora or Trove hosting archived copies of it, though; perhaps they were asked not to do that (since it in effect probably deterred some people from subscribing to the report, if they could get it for free a couple of weeks later on one of these sites).Nqr9 (talk) 13:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Pandora archive stopped adding new issues

message: Just reading the Gerling page and it mentions their EP A Day of Research reached #3 on the ARIA Alternative Albums Chart in 1996. Trove/Internet Archive doesn't go back that far for these charts. Is there anywhere else they are preserved? The earliest I can find in Trove is  Week Commencing 22nd November 1999 Jimmyjrg (talk) 04:15, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: To answer my own question, I ended up going to SLNSW to browse individual issues. There is no online version. Jimmyjrg (talk) 05:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARIAnet alternative albums chart