Talk:Express (weaponry)

message: On the recoil of the falling block Rugers, it might be worth noting that the continental stock goes a long way to weighting up the rifle and reducing recoil.
:They call the full length stocks "International" in the catalog.  Heavier barrels also help.  On the other hand, too heavy and the rifle becomes a burden to carry, and if it's a burden to carry, you might not have it when you need it.  scot 14:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recoil

message: Older sources, available in Google Books:
*"The Gun and Its Development" By William Wellington Greener (Cassell, 1907), splits the big bore "Express rifles" from the higher velocity military rifles, which he calls "long range Express rifles".  Start at page 629 for the in-depth discussion.  Greener explicitly states that the .360 is the smallest caliber Express cartridge.  He also notes the tendency away from the early hollow point bullets, and towards heavier solids for use with dangerous game, with the light .450 bullet shattering on a tiger's skull--this is the point I think where the modern Express rifle truly becomes a separate entity.  Page 639 starts a discussion of sights for various purposes.
*"The Book fo the Rifle" By Thomas Francis Fremantle, Thomas Francis Fremantle Cottesloe (Longmans, Green, and Co. 1901) lists the essence of the Express rifle as sufficient striking power, flat trajectory, and an expanding bullet.  Minimum velocity opinions ranged from 1600 to 1750 fps, with a 150 yard point blank range.
*"Bullet and Shot in Indian Forest, Plain and Hill", By Charles Edward Mackintosh Russell(W. Thacker and Co, 1900) also points out the ineffectiveness of the lightweight, hollow point bullets in the .450 against dangerous game such as tigers.
scot (talk) 15:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Collecting sources

message: I removed a very US-centric unverified comment about the American Kentucky rifle being the ancestor of European express rifles. High powered rifles, both with short barrels and with long barrels (including small caliber long-barreled hunting rifles), have a long and unbroken history in Europe, dating back to long before the  Kentucky Rifle. The fact that Kentucky rifles were first made by European gunsmiths who had emigrated to America bringning their craft with them, should be enough to prove that there is/was nothing truly unique about the Kentucky rifle. The Kentucky rifle may be an important part of US history but from a European perspective it was just an ordinary rifle, albeit with a longer barrel than most other rifles.  Allan Akbar (talk) 13:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kentucky rifle 

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