Talk:Lorena Bernal

message: She is born in 1981. Her eyes are truly Blue-Green. Her height is truly 5'8". This is all on her IMDB page. Where people cannot lie cause they feel like it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:25, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many misleading mistakes! 

message: Her age and other vital statistics are disputed. There are websites listing 1981 and others 1977, none of which are WP:RS. Please find WP:RS and provide refs for these. IMDB can not be used (see guideline). Widefox (talk) 08:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Due to an edit I saw, I looked into this.  There does not appear to be any definitive answer among reliable sources on the net (of which there are few).  However, I found several sources that claim she was not able to go to the Miss Universe competition in 1999 because she was only 17, which would corroborate the 1981 birth date:   .  Unfortunately, it turns out these all use the same text that's in our Miss Universe 1999 article, which has no references.  So I'm still stumped, but the story about the pageant seems to be the most compelling thing I've seen. —Kerfuffler 17:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

text: The only one of these things I've researched is her age.  See my comments above—specifically, that the references I found about her age in 1999 seemed to all be copied from our own Miss Universe 1999 article.  Such circular references to Wikipedia are not allowed as reliable sources.  I was unable to find a definitive source for either date in my research. — 09:28, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed BLP

message: Her eyes are blue green, Every photo in existence of her shows this. You can't wear contacts everyday for 30 years!  You're also lying about her height, and age!  IMDB is pro website, why would they misinform? Also for Miss Spain, she had just turned 18.  Also not allowing photo's of her on here, only goes to prove you are trying to hide the truth from people about what she looks like. Which is fine, every other site in the World shows photos of her.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: While I mostly agree, I should point out that IMDb is not considered a particularly reliable source for Wikipedia, because it's unclear what their standards for sourcing information are, and sometimes it actually comes from Wikipedia (and thus you could be reinforcing a mistake).  It's too bad Trump killed the old Miss España site, because there was a mention of her age there (still in Google cache), and I would consider that more reliable than most. — 09:31, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: i have removed all reference to birth date since it has been contested and there is no reliable source given. IMDB is NEVER acceptable source for personal information and the Yahoo link just goes to a general newsfeed with no information about this person. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:11, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are you purposely trying to make her look bad!? 

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