Talk:Israelites (song)

message: I don't have this book and therefore can't corroborate the information in it, but I don't think this is accurate.  Just as an example, Johnny Nash - Hold Me Tight, was #5 in September of 1968. Israelites was #9 in May 1969.  What's the definition of a reggae song?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thendcomes (talk • contribs) 16:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Reggae song to hit the top ten in the US 

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message: I see it described as ska here, and I've also seen it described as an early example of reggae. But it seems to me like "Israelites" is a really clear example of rocksteady, which is the phase of Jamaican music between ska and reggae. If nobody has any objections, I'm going to change the genre in the infobox to that. Peter G Werner (talk) 04:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is not consistent, with the intro calling it reggae but a later section calling it ska.  I know songs can cut across genres, but I do think the current article could be clearer on this. Peteinterpol (talk) 17:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

text: I would also say it's a rocksteady tune. But it was back in those days when the charts didn't have clear distinctions so that would be why it ended up on the UK Ska charts.
No, it's neither ska nor rock steady.  This is an early example of reggae.  Ska faded out in the latter half of 1966 in Jamaica and rock steady in the latter half of 1968.  There were a few records that fell pretty squarely between rock steady and reggae in 1968 but Israelites isn't one of them - while it's quite slow for early reggae, the drums are definitely not playing rock steady.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freewheeling frankie (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre? 

message: Get up in the morning, slaving for bread, sir,
 So that every mouth can be fed.
 Poor me, the Israelite.
Are you sure that's correct? (As in, is there a verifiable source that it can be taken from (which isn't a lyrics website)?) I could easily be mistaken, but I can't make out the 'Poor me, the Israelite'. Not with both 'me' and 'the'. I'm not entirely sure what it does say (I always believed it to be something like 'Ohhhh, the Israelite'), but I can't hear four words in that line, and 'me' and 'the' don't run together as a single word. --82.70.156.254 (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And indeed the citation shows the third line as being "Oh, oh, me Israelites", which sounds about right to me. I'm changing it accordingly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.85.213 (talk) 13:36, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: Marcus Gray's Route 19: The Clash and The Making of London Calling (2009) London: Vintage Books  contains the following passage:
:In that respect, it ['Death or Glory'] is similar to Desmond Dekker's 'The Israelites', a regular Clash cover during 1978 and 1979, which was inspired by a conversation about domestic strife Dekker happened to overhear one day in a London park.
:Gray op. cit. Marcus Gray, Route 19: The Clash and The Making of London Calling (2009) London: Vintage Books  p313 (Ch.4:12)
Does anyone have any more details/corroboration of this story?
Redpaul1 (talk) 09:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compositional Details 

message: Dekker was "eating corn", he says. I doubt that this was popcorn, more likely maize, or sweetcorn.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eating corn 

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message: Presumably this sentence wasn't written by someone with Jamaican or other Caribbean heritage. We need to find a more objective way of expressing this. MFlet1 (talk) 23:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Although few could understand all the lyrics...." 

message: The song was adapted for the Vitalite spread, any details about that? 84.67.61.209 (talk) 23:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  British advert for vitalite