Talk:Alcibiades Diamandi

message: This article reads like a copyvio, but this person doesn't get a single hit on Google for any of the spellings of his name. -- Kjkolb 07:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio/non-notable?

message: A friend just e-mailed me confirming that Diamandi was the Consul of the Kingdom of Romania in Albania indeed, though not in Korce/Korcë/Corizza/Curceauă but in Vlora/Vlorë (aka Avlona or Valona). He has got an original copy of Dr. Thede Kahl's doctoral dissertation who writes on this particular detail at page 56. Kahl is quoting in his turn Lena Divani's doctoral thesis about the Italo-Romanian 'propaganda' among Vlachs. Apostolos Margaritis 14:33, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Where exactly was Diamandi consul?

message: I found out some stuff about Diamandi in Achileas Anthemidhes' book. Even more dissapointing is one Dr. Lena Livani also educated in Germany at Mannheim, who is deeply convinced that, I quote: During the Axis occupation of Greece the vast majority of the Vlachs of Greece, most probably latinised Greeks speaking a language related to Romanian, remained loyal to Greece despite the efforts of Italo-Romanian agents to create an independent Vlach state. The Vlachs proved to be immune to Romanian and Italian courting because they were fully integrated into the Greek state. As there had never been any discrimination there was no temptation to look for friends beyond the border. Neither the Romanians nor the Italians understood that a Vlach-question did not exist in Greece and that all efforts to use the Vlachs against Greece were doomed (The Vlachs of Greece and the Italo-Rumanian Propaganda - Lena Divani). Oh, dear! It seeems that Ms. Divani hasn't heard of Metaxa restricting the use of Vlach language and of his rebaptizing Vlach place names with made-up 'Hellenic' names. Apostolos Margaritis 16:11, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cautios use of Greek historians' interpretation of events

message: Gosh! Another caption. This article is becoming a behemoth Apostolos Margaritis 11:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: From medieval Thessalian Wallachia to Diamandi's 'Principality': an outline of Vlach secessionist trends in Greece

message: Could somebody write his Dateof Birth and Date of Dead? Luka Jačov 18:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone knows them. Grounds for going into cats "Year of birth missing" and "Year of death missing"? Dahn 19:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB&DOD 

message: Has anyone actually went into the trouble of finding some good sources for this article? The Anthemides book that's widely quoted here is itself based on myths and misconceptions. For those who can read Greek, check the following  You will probably understand what I mean. Kostas G. 15:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And why don't you go through the trouble of finding some "good sources" for the article? Oh, I see, you just came by to be the critic... Dahn 15:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I cannot speak Greek. Dahn 12:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I kinda figured. :) Dahn 16:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too much information not verified

message: I have assessed this article and tried to clean it up.  The grammar still needs work and the references are dubious at best.  An article this unusual (hidden history) needs inline citations to avoid the perception that it is ALL made up.  The prose is verbose and aggrandizing which is not NPOV. Argos'Dad 22:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessed as Start Class

message: Alchiviad Diamandi di Samarina was his correct Aromanian name. Alcibiade is in Italian and Romanian Alkviadis in Greek. --Koppany 02:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: His name

message: From the article : "He took part in the interrogation of the leader of the party, Ion Adanucu, and of one of the wireless operators, George Varduli." ... "The subsequent fate of the party is not clear."
George Varduli is my grandfather's first cousin and I know him very well. He was imprisoned in Greece for 8 years and continued to live in Saloniki for the rest of his life. He died of prostate cancer last month (in april 2008) in his eighties.
I was born in Romania, but i visited him several times and he also visited me. I enjoyed his war time stories including the parachuting mission. He was not a criminal. All he wanted was freedom for Aromanians who were opressed by the Greek state.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.81.127.91 (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the paratroopers 

message: The name of the subject of the article was Αλκιβιάδης Διαμάντης (Alkiviadis Diamandis), at least as far as the greek state is concerned (being a Greek subject). In 1917 he signed telegrams / letters asEvenimentele din lunile iulie-august 1917 în regiunea Munţilor Pind – încercare de creare a uneistatalităţi a aromânilor. documente inedite şi mărturii. studiu istoriografic şi arhivistic, Stoica Lascu, Revista Romana de Studii Eurasiatice, Anul III, Nr. 1-2/2007 : Alcibiadi Diamandi, Alcibiade Diamandi and in 1942 , in the proclamation of the  Vlachs of Lower Balkans, as Al. C. DiamandiΣταύρος Παπαγιάννης (Stavros Papayiannis), Τα παιδιά της λύκαινας. Οι επίγονοι της 5ης Ρωμαϊκής Λεγεώνας κατά τη διάρκεια της Κατοχής (1941-1944) (The children of the she-wolf...), Εκδόσεις Σοκόλη. , 1999, 2004. Several sources are giving the name Alcibiades DiamandiAfter the War was Over: Reconstructing the Family, Nation, and State in Greece, 1943-1960, Mark Mazower, Princeton University Press, 2000, p. 46
There is no mention anywhere of the "Di Samarina" except in one self-printed reference (therefore not acceptable for Wikipedia as third party).
Our options are therefore as follows:
*First name: Alkiviadis (Gr), Alcibiadi (1917), Alcibiade (1917), Alcibiades (En bibliography)
*Surname: Diamandis (Gr), Diamandi (his preference, En bibliography)
My proposal, since we are in English Wikipedia, is to follow English bibliography and move the article to the name Alcibiades Diamandi, with redirection of the other versions. --FocalPoint (talk) 10:46, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name - proposal to move 

message: Substituted at 21:33, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: So where he was raised was in the Ottoman Empire until 1912, when it became part of Greece. The question is when did he study in Romania? If it was before 1912 he needs to be in :Category:Expatriates of the Ottoman Empire in Romania. If after 1912 we need to place him in :Category:Greek expatriates in Romania.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ottoman Empire or Greek expatriate in Romania