Talk:Hakeem Olajuwon

message: I have deleted the section stating, "It is to his credit that very few have ever criticized Houston for picking Olajuwon ahead of third pick Jordan, who went on to have a spectacular NBA career (in stark contrast to the second choice, Portland's Sam Bowie."
The statement is speculative, and with all due respect to Michael Jordan, the article should be about the life and accomplishments of Hakeem Olajuwon. Not how his career compared to that of Jordan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmurdock21 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft Position/Jordan

message: olajuwon did not give money to al-qaeda. please try not to slander people. 
too bad about him giving money to al-qaida —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derrickbecker74 (talk • contribs) 
just because hes muslim doesnt it mean that he gives money to al-qaida, btw why write he was undisciplined under the muslim faith contents?
:He was undisciplined and readily admits it we need a source on that though. Quadzilla99 02:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Source was added. Quadzilla99 14:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Derrick Becker

message: I edited out the following part of a sentence, "and making him look like an utter fool" in the "Dream Shake" section. Judgements on who is and isn't a fool do not belong in an encyclopedia article.
JRed 21:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV violation 

message: I remember him having a quadruple-double once, but two in the same month ? Seems a little dubious. BTW, the info was repeated on the quadruple-double article. Anyone who could check it ? Mrbluesky 23:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Never mind, already done on both pages.  Cdcon  16:47, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two quadruple-doubles? 

message: We really need a photo for him. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Quadzilla99 12:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photograph

message: Apparently some users feel that Patrick Ewing is deserving of being mentioned as one of the top NBA centers of all-time. If this is your belief, please provide a source supporting the statement before adding Ewing to the list (or replacing one of the others in the list). Thank you. - Raetzsch 19:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the list but the source is fairly weak. Unless we can get a better source perhaps the list should just be removed and some other statement can be used to sum up his great career and place in history in the opening paragraph. Harvey100 01:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Harvey. Quadzilla99 02:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Print source has been added for Top 5 centers. - Raetzsch 17:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work Raetzsch. Quadzilla99 15:28, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Well another source was added. A survey of 19 ESPN journalist and retired players, the 5 listed were the top 5. In addition there was a wide gap between the top 5 and the number 6 center. The top five received between 130 and 174 points and the number 6 center received 76 points: Quadzilla99 00:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top 5 Centers of All-Time 

message: Honestly, I think you should go on and add this to the good article candidates. It is well-written, factually verifiable, broad in coverage, NPOV, stable, and contains images. In other words, it follows WP:WIAGA perfectly. I'd promote it no problem (I'd add it myself, but it may take a month to get approved that way) --Wizardman 17:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it. Quadzilla99 15:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright. I'd like to see the lead improve on a bit though. It's certainly good enough now for a GA though.--Wizardman 16:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm going too continue to work on it and improve it. I just got his autobiography so I expect to make several additions to it in the near future. Quadzilla99 21:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: Hello!  A copyedit was begun on this article about 6 months ago, but was not completed.  Due to the volume of changes since then, I have removed this article from our current list of copyedit requests.  If you would still like to have a copyedit, feel free to relist it on our request page.  Thanks! Galena11 16:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit in progress 

message: Since, people see fit to revert it, I'll explain:
My issue with the old player profile, is that it consists entirely of stats and opinion.  You get no idea of how Hakeem actually played.
This kind of stuff:
"legitimate two-way threat"
"smothering defense"
"legendary footwork"
is opinion.  You can find sources that agree with your opinion, but it is still opinion.  Check out some articles on Hannibal.  Rather than go on about how "great" of a general he was and how "cunning" he was and rattle off stats about how many people he killed, they talk about his actual tactics.
If the only issue with what I wrote was a lack of sources, how heavily sourced should it be?  If there were other issues, what are they?68.190.73.79 05:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons For Edit 

message: Up above, it mentions that Hakeem had a second quadruple-double (well, it would have been his first) and talks about the story.  Do you have a source for this?  I've heard this same story but the guy who told me told me in such a way as "this is what I've heard."  This would be interesting to talk about on here, or at least on the quadruple-double page.  That game is listed on the Five-by-five (Basketball) page as not only did he get a quadruple-double (unofficial, yes) but he also had 5 steals so it was a five-by-five.
StatisticsMan 04:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already added it to the quadruple double page with a source a while back. Quadzilla99 04:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only source I see is for the box score.  I'm talking about the story. And, the note on the quadruple double page does not match the story told above.  The note says the initial figure reads 10 and the league corrected it.  The story above, same as the one I heard, says the initial read 9, Rockets watched the tape, found another, added it on, then the league said they could not change it after the fact.StatisticsMan 17:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, you'll have to look around I don't really care that much. Quadzilla99 23:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have looked and have never seen anything on it.  I was just asking if any one had a source, especially whoever put the story up on the talk page. StatisticsMan 16:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Click the history button on top of the page and you can see who posted the message and then leave him/her a message. Quadzilla99 16:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back to Quadruple Double 

message: So perhaps the word "Yoruban" exists, but none of the Yoruba people I know have ever used that word. That, combined with the fact that you call an adult male Yoruba a "Yoruba man", not a "Yoruban man" make me suspect that "Yoruban" is simply erroneous, or analagous to calling someone from England an Englander rather than English...
In response to Quadzilla: You googled the word Yoruban and saw many hits, but I don't think this is a valid way of demonstrating that it is the proper adjective.
Consider the following article from a Nigeria newspaper:
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/showtime/2004/sept/03/showtime-september-03-006.htm
Observe that it uses the expressions "Yoruba language", "Yoruba programmes", "Yoruba land", "Yoruba people", "Yoruba news", but certainly not "Yoruban."
Hopefully this is enough to convince you. I shall change it back to "Yoruba" now.
Best,
Dapo
Dapo Omidiran 20:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I guess you're right. It will have to be re-worded as it sounds awkward to an English reader now though. Something like "of the Yoruba ethnicity" or the sort. Incidentally, to most of the English speaking world ethnicities/nationalities that end in a vowel end in -n (American, Indian, Canadian, Russian) or -ese (Chinese etc.) I've never heard one that doesn't change form. Of course I'm not the most wordly guy. Quadzilla99 21:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoruba v. Yoruban 

message: I'm currently looking through the article to improve it as much as I can. I added some stats/records and while fact checking for one of the quotes from the Early life section, I stumbled upon this interview with Michael Jordan in which he chooses Hakeem to be in a theoretical starting 5 along with himself, Larry Bird, Scottie Pippen, and Magic Johnson. I like how the Michael Jordan article has a Legacy section and I think, after some work, we can do something similar for this article, perhaps including a few quotes from other players and various other things like what current players were influenced by Olajuwon (similar to how it is in the Jordan article). Note that I don't necessarily want to model this article after the Jordan one, but I think it wouldn't hurt to use a few stylistic techniques from it (afterall it was featured and one of the best sports BLPs on wikipedia). Thoughts anyone? --Ubiq 10:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible addition 

message: Does someone want to add a new section about Houston erecting a statue in his honor?
-RocketsFan  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.246.6.169 (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bronze Statue at the Toyota Center? 

message: We need a better picture of Olajuwon at the top of the page.  This is really a picture of Kevin McHale; we cannot see Olajuwon's face or even his name on his jersey. Hpanic7342 (talk) 16:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah there isn't a free image available. I've been looking for a while now. I'm pretty good at finding free ones so if one becomes available I should be able to find it pretty quick depending on how active I am.  A good way to check is on Google and flickr's advanced image searches filtering for images with the appropriate license. Then you also have to make sure its labelled properly; some people mistakenly label posters and movie screenshots under creative commons licenses. You can usually tell a fan taken image by looking at the uploaders other photos or just by generally seeing if it looks bogus like this one here:[ http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Hakeem+Olajuwon&l=commderiv&ss=0&ct=0&mt=all&w=all&adv=1] or these: AaronY (talk) 06:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we have a picture now. Its actually one I uploaded a while ago, but which I removed when there was some question as to whether is was free or not. But from a quick glance at the discussion I see over on Commons it looks free. AaronY (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Hakeem himself and other sources have stated that his height is closer to 6'10" (2.08 mt). 
Here are two examples:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1005285/index.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/08/sports/on-pro-basketball-feet-of-dancer-touch-of-surgeon-and-a-shot-too.html
I think it's time for an update.
Aloncho11 (talk) 16:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height update 

message: Unless you count common law marriage, he was never married to Lita Spencer. In fact this is what lead to them separating, because she wanted to get married. Considering that fact, the article should not say he was married to her.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:23FF:3CF0:0:0:0:34 (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source?Hoops gza (talk) 00:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Lita Spencer 

message: The article had stated that Olajuwon changed his name "to the correct Arabic spelling of Hakeem".  I changed this to "the more conventional spelling of Hakeem," because Arabic does not use the Roman alphabet. The "correct Arabic spelling" of the name is حكيم‎. The form Hakeem is an English transliteration of حاکم‎ (and not the only one, either; the form Hakim is probably even more common). 108.254.160.23 (talk) 23:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change note 

message: Typically you see all NBA players on their Wiki pages show pictures of them in their playing days, not in street clothes. I think somebody should change it to something like the one here http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/92412_Dream.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8B83:4860:F0D6:EAB8:EEF5:99A0 (talk) 06:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change main picture of Olajuwon to his playing days 

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