Talk:African-American Jews

message: 04:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This is not a disambig - it's an article. I will remove the  if there are no objections.--Commander Keane 16:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not a disambig page 

message: The Black Hebrews section should really be merged with the Black Hebrews article, and mentioned here only in passing, as they are far from the only group of Black Jews, claimed or recognized as such.  TomerTALK 04:39, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge 

message: Why is this part of African American topics? Isn't this first and formost a black topic. There's always this will of dividing black people into small groups.  Doesn't this concern the rest of the "black world", in the Caribbean, Brazil and Africa.  There's a few jews in Africa as well, hence this shouldn't be a stricly African American topic.
:As "black" is an adjective, I would say this is first and foremost a Jewish topic, which is why I made the recommendation I made in the section ("merge") above.  Tomertalk 02:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  African American? 

message: First, "black jews" are any Jew that happens to be black.
The "Black Hebrews" are specific group of people.
No merge.
talk 02:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  They are different 

message: Judaism is matriarchal.  You can only be a Jew via the female line if not converted, and those listed as Jews via their fathers cannot be called Jews. Dainamo 12:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mothers Line 

message: there are 2 lists of black jews.  the one in this article and the one that this article refers to.  there differ.  can someone fix this?  and shouldn't we just have one list, so that we do not have to update both lists all of the time?
Thoughts???????????????
Tx.
--Epeefleche 22:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2 Lists

message: I added a heading of "Types" over the "Mainstream Judaism / Beta Israel" and "" sections. I don't think "Types" is the best choice, but the two sections needed something to contain them (as they weren't quite appropriate to upgrade to level 2 heads). Feel free to change it. EVula 17:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding place-holder heading 

message: Who is regina smith?  Google only turns up one hit (wikipedia) for "Rabbi regina smith." Though there are several for rabbi "regina smith," none seem to indicate a notable black jew.  Anyone have any sources for this? Avraham 05:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rabbi Regina Smith?

message: Why does this page not mention the Lemba? 83.67.215.251 18:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemba

message: An anonymous editor dumped material from Zimbabwe’s “Black Jews” and
The Story of the Lemba People into this article today. Since the material was copied directly from those sources, I had to delete it.
If anybody has any questions, please read WP:COPYVIO and post any further questions here. Thanks. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 18:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation 

message: "black jews are jews who are black"
thank you, captain obvious, did you also know that black jews are blacks who are jews? no? well now you do, and i guess you should add that as the second statement.....please consider revising that first statement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.150.24 (talk) 20:33, May 23, 2007
:Done. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 02:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the first statement 

message: Given the current length of the list of Black Jews, I think it would be appropriate to merge the content of the list into this article under a section titled "Notable Black Jews" or the like. Any thoughts? -- Black Falcon (Talk) 07:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[List of Black Jews]] 

message: Jewish African Americans is similar to List of Black Jews, which was merged into this article recently. I propose that Jewish African Americans be merged in as well. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Support This definitely should be merged, no use having 2 pages for the same thing. Tyler Warren 04:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Black Jews 

message: I appreciate the consistency with Islam in the African Diaspora, but some of the "Black Jews" in the article aren't of African descent. Cochin Jews in southern India evidently are referred to as "Black Jews", but the descendants of more recent Jewish immigrants to that part of India (Paradesi Jews) are called "White Jews". I suppose we can just take them out of this article; they do have articles of their own. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 05:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Prehaps we should move them to Paradesi Jews or Cochin Jews, or whatever article best describes them then. Yahel Guhan 00:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there can be a difference between people of Jewish heritage and those who practice Judaism, and since this article includes Black Hebrews who consider themselves Jews but are not of Jewish heritage nor do they practice normative Judaism, would anybody object to renaming this article "Jews and Judaism in the African diaspora" or "Judaism and Jews in the African diaspora"? — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 00:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: You're right. Until very recently, this article was titled "Black Jews". The content hasn't been updated to reflect the new title and focus. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 05:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New title 

message: slaves belonging to jews would have followed judaism?
61.95.13.82 15:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the American South, no.  In the former Jewish colony in Suriname, I think yes, sort of.--Pharos 23:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  jewish slave owner? 

message: A year ago we merged that list, which consisted of 9 names, into this article. The list now includes 29 people, with another 15 or so who are unsourced and commented out. I think we should consider moving the list back into its own article. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 22:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of any objections, I moved the content to List of Jews in the African diaspora. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 05:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Black Jews 

message: I am going add info to the section from http://www.adl.org/presrele/IslME_62/2659_62.asp  --Java7837 (talk) 22:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Who is Harry Wall and what makes him a WP:RS concerning Beta Israel? — Malik Shabazz  22:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's from the ADL, a reliable website --Java7837 (talk) 23:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that it was already being used in the article concerning the requirement that men of Beta Israel undergo a second circumcision. — Malik Shabazz  23:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Beta Israel

message: I added "Cochin Jews, including the Black Jews of Malabar" to See Also and it was reverted AGF. A previous version of this article used to be called Black Jews, if I read the history correctly, and that search term redirects here. I fully understand that Cochin Jews are not African, which is why I didn't try to insert the link into the main body of the article. But surely it is of assistance to our readers to point them towards the Black Jews of Malabar? Isn't that exactly what See Also is for? BrainyBabe (talk) 13:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that's what a hatnote is for.  You raise a good point. I had forgotten that Black Jews redirects here. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:03, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Black Jews of India 

message: Black Jews redirects here, but this article doesn't add any clearance on who are black Jews, specifically referring to black Jews of Malabar. I think black Jews should be a proper disambiguation page to Malabar Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Black Hebrew Israelites and people with mixed Jewish-African ancestry. Any opposition to expand the disambig page?GreyShark (dibra) 18:13, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Black Jews

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