Talk:Northern Ireland national football team

message: I believe this ranking should be removed from the page altogether until ELO fix their ranking system because all matches prior to partition have been given over to the Republic side in their system, therefore both countrys ranking must be wrong
--Ifcp1 19:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ELO tends only to need the last 30 games for an accurate calculations, so alhough it was wrong in 1920s, it should have fixed itself by now. It is not just NI's ranking that will be miscalculated, but any team that has ever played them in the last 90 years, as the points gained to calculate an ELO rating are partially based on the number of points the opposition has. It would only really be significant for the 1920 and early 1930s. If another team has their peak position in this era then the miscalculation in the NI could mean this is wrong, I would suggest you refer the matter to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football Fasach Nua 13:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ELO RANKING

message: :The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 09:51, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk:Northern Ireland national football team

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support as above. Djegan 22:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: Is the UK's Olympic team "Great Britain" or "Great Britain and Northern Ireland"?
see Cfd discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Great_Britain_at_the_Olympics_to_Category:Great_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_at_the_Olympics
--Mais oui! 22:12, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the correct name of the UK's Olympic team? 

message: I propose to move this page to Northern Ireland soccer team. There is more than one type of football played in the region, and the use of the word "national" is contentious.
Lapsed Pacifist 14:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All of the teams under :Category:European national football teams are in the style "country national football team" so this maybe worth baring in mind. Djegan 19:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Furthermore the term "nation" (as the root of "national") is not by any means the same as "state". Many teams in the category are not states, but nonetheless have a national football team. Djegan 19:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Djegan, also considering that the org that supports the team is also know as Irish Fotball Assn. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 02:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I do not keep up on what the GAA do, but my understanding is that they do not field any national teams in any of their games and matches? Theirfore "national football team" could not be applied to them in any valid way as we are not comparing like-to-like — if it was county or provincial then that would be a different matter. Djegan 16:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: But this article is about Northern Ireland not Ireland or Australia. Djegan 21:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Because it is a straw man arguement. Djegan 21:28, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: You still have to make any substantial points that would prove their is a case for ambiguity, if you dont know the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland then you have not lost me - your simply warring. Djegan 21:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: So, as you have shown, their is still no substantial requirement for moving the article, it is clearly understood what is meant when the terms “Northern Ireland national” and “football team” are used togetheir; it can only mean one thing, theirfore it follows that it is not ambiguous. As for introducing soccer that just introduces an additional and unneccessary word; that it the test. Djegan 22:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  See United States men's national soccer team for an example.  The USA does not field an international American Football team as far as I know.  In the USA there is a form of football that is way more dominant than soccer.  Many people in the USA refer to football (FA rules) as 'soccer.'  All of these characteristics apply to Northern Ireland.  If you're going to insist on the NI team's page having 'football' in the title then you'll have to do the same for Uncle Sam.  --Eamonnca1 16:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Why a current campaign section? Is Wikipedia a fixture list now? Stu ’Bout ye! 08:04, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current campaign

message: Is NI the smallest country to qualify for the world cup? The population of T&T is given as 1,305,000 in the wikipedia, anyone know the NI population in 1958? Fasach Nua 23:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were the smallest country to quality until T&T, as stated in the article. Stu ’Bout ye! 07:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trinidad

message: Impossible. Ask, for example, the following unionist organisations: The Church of Ireland; The Presbyterian Church in Ireland; The Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland.... This latest attempt to give historic legitimacy to the last remnant of the British Empire in Ireland is just as futile as the rest of them. One siege- indeed centuries of sieges- does not make a nation. El Gringo 18:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the standard naming format on Wikipedia for all teams fielded by member associations of FIFA. -- Arwel (talk) 23:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The government seems to think otherwise, Gringo.  Consider the following non-unionist organisations and/or establishments: the Police Service of Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland Assembly, Northern Ireland Tourist Board...  Northern Ireland is a constituent country; see the article of the same name. -- the GREAT Gavini 15:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Ireland "national" football (sic) team

message: There has been an article with the above title created, which is very relevant to this article, on the off chance someone missed it's creation 08:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ireland national football team (1882-1920)]]

message: I've removed a bit of text from this section that says that NI fans are sectarian because they support Rangers.  Firstly, I'd have thought that NI fans would be more inclined to support local soccer teams. Second, the definition of 'sectarian' is not 'he who supports Rangers.'  I've tightened up some of the English in there as well.  --Eamonnca1 02:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversey and Sectarianism

message: A perennial point of controversy at Talk:Northern Ireland has been the use of the :Ulster Banner to represent NI. There was a fairly interesting discussion recently at Talk:Celtic F.C. which relates to this and I think the matter is settled for now at keeping the use (per UEFA) of the flag to represent the NI team. I thought it possible that some reading here might be interested in the discussion we have had. --Guinnog 18:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And per FIFA too it seems, see  --Guinnog 18:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I think that the IrelandC32 flag would have been Saint Patrick's Flag (as used in this article), between partition and 1950 the IrelandC6 team would possibly have used it also. It should be noted that the Government of Northern Ireland was granted arms in 1924, and from then a banner of arms could have been used. Anthem wise I don't have a clue! I can't really think of any UKoGBaI Irish anthem. My guess would be that GSTQ has been used by the IFA for all Internationals. « Keith t·e » 20:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldnt be sure any flag was used at the early stage, the usage of flags/anthems is part of a FIFA directive, Im not sure the home championships were ever externally regulated, (domestic football generally doesnt use anthems) even if the directive had been enforced at that time. The IFA are in the process of gathering old photographs from IRL/NI international games for publication, which may shed some light on this issue! On an aside, when did "Northern Ireland" get incorporated into the badge? 86.12.249.63 21:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think there was trouble at a Dublin IFA international c.1913 which related to nationalists wanting to fly the tricolour instead of the union jack.  jnestorius(talk) 22:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: Considering the team has done quite well in Europe thus far, this might be an opportune time to recruit support for improving the article, and including it (after improvements) in the Northern Ireland Portal. --Mal 02:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Portal:Northern Ireland|Northern Ireland Portal]] selected article

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thread_title:  Auto peer review: for help in the current football collaboration 

message: I just heard on the news this morning that Lawrie Sanchez has resigned as manager! Edits to the page will have to be made. Leemorrison 13:09, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawrie Sanchez is gone! 

message: I removed the link, ie this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2049155.stm, which was used to prove the following statement:
"It is not unknown for Northern Ireland supporters to adopt the Republic of Ireland as their second team when they are not in direct competition"
The above link does not back this up in any way at all, the only slight mention is of some Northern fans giving sympathy to the Republic fans after the 2002 world cup. This does not imply adopting the Republic of Ireland as their second team. 
Thus i have removed the link and placed a citation tag.
Mabuska 18:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Ireland fans lending support to Republic of Ireland team 

message: The flag used for the team pre 1954, in my opinion braches the manual of style. The flag depicted is one of many flags associated with Ireland, the only flag flown at Ireland internationals was the Union flag (as they played in the Home nations), and choosing one flag over the rest is WP:OR. I have removed all the flags, on the historic results section. Fasach Nua 15:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[MOS:FLAG]]

message: I've copied the current campaign stuff here, maybe something along the lines of Republic of Ireland national football team - record in major tournaments. Fasach Nua (talk) 10:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Northern Ireland national football team - record in major tournaments]]

message: I have moved the discussion of the Ireland national football team (IFA) from here to Talk:Ireland national football team (IFA)#This Article.  It relates more closely to that article than this one, and I want to avoid the danger of duplicating or splitting the discussion across two pages. The issue is of interest to anyone interested in this article, as it asks:
*should there be a separate article? if so:
**does it need to be more explicit about its terms of reference?
**what information in this article should be moved to that one?
All comments encouraged on that Talk: page. jnestorius(talk) 20:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ireland national football team (IFA)]]

message: Why not have a hyperlink about the NIR Matches since 2000 because if you luck at David Healy's Carrer and missed matches it is all the matches that NIR have played since 2000.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.118.172 (talk) 19:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Im not keen on having this section, there is a seperate article (under construction) on major tournaments. I think nothing more than the current campaign can be justified, and even then I would say that would be excessive! Fasach Nua (talk) 18:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NIR Matches since 2000

message: There is a straw poll at Talk:Association football in Northern Ireland on whether the word "Association" should be in "Association Football in Northern Ireland".  --Matt Lewis (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw Polls on "Association" being added to UK and Irish football articles 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Northern ireland national football team logo.png

message: Regarding the edit by User:Kevin_McE, I take your point on IFS. But the earlier line is specfically providing the name of the state in question and it's misleading & wrong to say its ROI as it did not later become the Republic of Ireland, however that label is put on the state in cases of ambiguity. Also menioning the correct name of the state is important inorder to put in context the name issue regarding the two football teams. ROI use throughout the article is fine, but in this circumstance is incorrect.Comments?SitNGo (talk) 19:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't want to pursue it too long or loud, but would simply suggest that, for the sake of clarity, that which avoids ambiguity might be more useful than an insistence on legally prescribed titles.  Kevin McE (talk) 20:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no issue with trying to remove amiguity, but this sentence does specifically aim to provide the names of the state.  In 1922, Southern Ireland gained independence as the Irish Free State, later to become Republic of Ireland. is currently an inaccurate sentence as that did not occur. I like to go for accurate sentences how about In 1922, Southern Ireland gained independence as the Irish Free State, later to become a republic under the name of Ireland. Is that clear enough to the reader?SitNGo (talk) 20:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was given the description Republic of Ireland when it became a republic in 1949. Mooretwin (talk) 20:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

text: That might come as a surprise to her Maj  Kevin McE (talk) 19:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ROI/Ireland in history section 

message: The current description of the rules are unclear, and, I fear, inaccurate.  A non-UK born holder of a UK passport is equally eligible for any of the four home nations teams (thus Maik Taylor for NI, Pat van den Hauwe for Wales etc), but this seems to be overlooked in the current analysis. Kevin McE (talk) 23:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eligibility rules 

message: The article doesn't make it entirely clear weather Northern Irish catholics support this team or the Republic of Ireland team. Could anyone find an answer to this - and if neccesary add to the article. ps: thanks must go out to the user who censored this question (twice now!) when I last asked it! WP is not a forum does not apply here because I am clearly discussing something that would be useful if added to the article. 202.67.71.162 (talk) 23:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The religion of the people of the land that the Northern Ireland football team represent is not notable or relevant to the text of this article. Case closed.MusicInTheHouse (talk) 23:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mate - I was only asking! Seriously - get some sleep or take a cold shower and relax! 202.67.71.162 (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah you say that after posting this on my talk page. Hmmm.MusicInTheHouse (talk) 21:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Irish Catholics

message: Fasach Nua, please stop making controversial changes to the opening paragraph without first gaining a consensus for the changes as per WP:BRD.  You've changed the opening para several times now, all without reference and citations to back up your claims.  Please stop this disruptive behavior.  --HighKing (talk) 09:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to clarify which part is conterversial, the Republic of ireland act or the 1953 FIFA ruling, as you have reverted both Fasach Nua (talk) 09:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (edit conflict)You've added another name in bold to the opening paragraph of "Ireland national football team" - this is not an alternative name for the team, so you should not add it to the lead in bold like this.  Be aware that it is already mentioned further down in the lead.  If you believe it is an alternative name, please provide a reference or citation to show that the team is called by this name.  Also your additions around "Republic of Ireland" are unnecessary and factually incorrect.  --HighKing (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy now? Not entirely sure how to do a citation in he footnote! Fasach Nua (talk) 10:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually no.  You've not provided references that show that "Ireland national football team" is a name used to describe the Northern Ireland national football team.  I don't believe you can because strictly speaking, it would then no longer be the Northern Ireland team, would it, which is what this article is about?  You're mixing up the fact that the IFA used to organize a team called the "Ireland national football team", and the current team.  Also, I don't think it's a good idea to drag the Ireland/Republic of Ireland arguement into the lead paragraph on this page - there's an arbcom process ongoing currently.  --HighKing (talk) 10:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Just checking your references - your Sport and the Irish reference states that the practice of using the name Ireland was discontinued in the 1970s - so can we now please remove it from the lede?  --HighKing (talk) 10:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: While it remains on FIFAs book, I think it should remain on the article, and I think that for over half this teams history it has been called Ireland gives added weight. I agree on the RoI bit, I would be content if it wasnt mentioned at all in the opening paragraph, however if it is, it should be accurate Fasach Nua (talk) 10:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree.  Trying to pass off a name never associated with the Northern Ireland team, not used by FIFA since the 1950s, and discontinued since the 1970s as a current name is disingenuous and dishonest.  You're mixing up the fact the the IFA were in the habit of fielding two different teams under two different names for different competitions.  This is not the same as what you've done which is to imply that the Northern Ireland team is sometimes called by an alternative name.  Your references also do not back this up.  I'll leave it to other editors to comment - I can see that you're just being silly on this one.  --HighKing (talk) 11:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: HighKing is absolutely right. Northern Ireland only competes against the other "home nations" in World Cup and European Championships qualifiers, and only under the name Northern Ireland. They may have competed under the name "Ireland" in the past, but they haven't done so for a long time. The level of stirring that goes on over naming on nearly anything Ireland-related on Wikipedia is getting very tedious. --Nicknack009 (talk) 11:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Before 1921, all of Ireland was represented by a single side, the Ireland national football team, of which Northern Ireland is the continuation;
This isn't accurate - the Northern Ireland team is not seen as a continuation, although the IFA as an organization is a continuation.  A small but important difference. --HighKing (talk) 16:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about something like "Before 1921, all of Ireland was represented by a single side, the Ireland national football team, organised by the IFA. After 1921 the IFA continued to organise the Northern Ireland team, and the newly-founded FAI organised a team to represent the Republic of Ireland"? --Nicknack009 (talk) 16:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say go for it.MusicInTheHouse (talk) 16:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've refined it a bit. It now says "Before 1921, all of Ireland was represented by a single side, the Ireland national football team, organised by the Irish Football Association (IFA). Since 1921, the IFA has been the organising body for the Northern Ireland team (for some time continuing to use the name "Ireland"), while the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) has organised a separate team to represent the Republic of Ireland." --Nicknack009 (talk) 16:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's OK with me - I've changed the tense to present and tidied/tightened a little.  --HighKing (talk) 16:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Righto - although I've tweaked the tense of the parenthetical bit to avoid the impression that the IFA still uses the name "Ireland". --Nicknack009 (talk) 17:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Reading that again, I'm not sure "Since 1921, the IFA is..." sounds quite right. I think you need "has been" after "since". Anyone have any better suggestions on the wording? --Nicknack009 (talk) 17:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Your tweak is better.  --HighKing (talk) 17:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the opening paragraph 

message: I have just updated the current squad and also Recent Call-Ups section. If anyone feels that the recent call-ups bit is too long move it here for easier modification for future squads.  Cheers!  --Nifg (talk) 10:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the "Most Capped Players" table out of date?  For example The Irish FA website list Maik Taylor as having more caps than the table.  --HighKing (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Records and squad stats updated up to and including last Saturday's game against Poland. --Nifg (talk)  18:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Squad 

message: I think this entire section should be removed or at least re written, the Lennon saga was over 9 years ago and i feel no longer relevant to the current team.
--Pumba(talk)  20:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Au contraire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qwP6Ih5Eds&feature=player_embedded --Eamonnca1 (talk) 08:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Crowd trouble hasn't been a problem so can't really remain so. You seem to be emphasising recent events too much. See WP:recentism. Mooretwin (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Deleting something because it has, in the short term, ceased to be the case is also open to the charge of recentism.  Rather than deletion of notable issues, they should be communicated in the relevant tense.  Kevin McE (talk) 22:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The material was added and then removed by another poster. An edit war began, so I removed it pending consensus being achieved. Mooretwin (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Good point. How about "Crowd trouble is a problem" or "crowd trouble has returned"? Or maybe "Crowd trouble has been a problem at various times" and then we could go on to list all the incidents that have occurred? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 22:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

text: No trouble at the game? The cited source says "Ballymena United defender Denver Gage is at the centre of an IFA inquiry into the singing of sectarian songs at the Northern Ireland v Scotland game." (Emphasis mine.)   Please mind your language and be WP:CIVIL. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 00:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes the inquiry was into singing of sectarian songs by 50 out of 5000 people. There was no crowd trouble. The current wording of the article as it stands is fineFifa-NI (talk) 13:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So the entire crowd has to get involved before it can be considered 'trouble'? Let's delete the entire Heysel Stadium Riot article then. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 01:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy and Sectarianism

message: There are 3 codes in Ireland and Northern Ireland called football hence why it's Association_football_in_Northern_Ireland not Football_in_Northern_Ireland Gnevin (talk) 21:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is it Football in England, then, where there are also three codes? Mooretwin (talk) 21:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because football in England isn't as ambiguous . Football in England generally means Association football. In Ireland it's very ambiguous Gnevin (talk) 21:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But this encyclopaedia isn't read only in Ireland and England. Mooretwin (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And it isn't only read in America but that is at Soccer rather than football Gnevin (talk) 23:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

text: The title would possibly be ambiguous if there was an article about a Northern Ireland national Gaelic football team, but there isn't. It's quite clear what the article is about. Onetonycousins (talk) 21:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: DAB name

message: Northern Ireland does not have a flag, so why is it being used? The flag that is being used does not exist anymore.Sheodred (talk) 15:48, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is still the official Northern Ireland Football Flag according to fifa  C. 22468 (talk) 12:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

message: The article currently says "On 18 February 1882, fifteen months after the founding of the Irish FA, Ireland made their international debut against England, losing 13–0 in a friendly played at Bloomfield in Belfast. This remains the record win for England and the record defeat for the (Northern) Ireland team."
What was the "(Northern) Ireland team" that played in 1882?  There was no such place as "Northern Ireland", no such team as "Northern Ireland" and certainly no such team as "(Northern) Ireland". The team was called "Ireland", the country was called "Ireland" and there was nothing "Northern" or "(Northern)" about it. --Eamonnca1 TALK 17:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why "Northern" is in brackets, mate. The text is written in the present: it remains the record defeat for the (Northern) Ireland team. The team's called Northern Ireland now, mate. Mooretwin (talk) 23:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And it wasn't called (Northern) Ireland at the time of the defeat, so putting it in brackets makes even less sense. It was a record defeat for the Ireland team and remains a record defeat for the Ireland team. And please don't call me 'mate'. --Eamonnca1 TALK 02:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it wasn't called (Northern) Ireland at the time of the defeat: it was called Ireland ... but it's been called Northern Ireland for the past 60 years and it remains the record defeat! "Remaining a record defeat for the Ireland team" doesn't make sense because the team is now called Northern Ireland! Does Newton Heath have separate records from Manchester United? Mooretwin (talk) 20:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record defeat 

message: The above was discussed a few years ago on this page. Does any one have any sources around why the players wear green? There was a suggestion by one editor that they formerly wore blue. Any sources around that too? Thanks. Frenchmalawi (talk) 16:01, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green uniforms 

message: The section may be clear enough for British or Irish people, but for foreigners like me it's not quite clear. From what I know about the Northern Ireland conflict, I would guess that Republicans/Catholics do not usually cheer for Northern Ireland, but for the Republic. But I don't know if that's true, because the section is very vague. Please make it better understandable for non-British/Irish people. Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.228.45 (talk) 01:48, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarify sectarianism section 

message: Someone wiped out the flag on the football fox tag! All pictures where that's supposed to be has been declared null!
SOMEONE FIX THIS!
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thread_title:  What happened?! 

message: Please stop removing the distiction between the Ireland national football team (1882–1950) and the Northern Ireland team. It is not disputed that one is the successor of the other, but that doesn't mean it's the same thing. There is an important distinction between the two, hence Wikipedia has two articles. Removing that distinction removes informative material. Leaving the article as it was shows that the modern Northern Ireland team is the successor of the old Ireland team, but acxknowledges that things changed, and the modern Northern Ireland team does not represent the whole of Ireland, or claim to. It is a different entity than the old Ireland team, even if there is continuity between them.  --Nicknack009 (talk) 20:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed before at length on this page and a position was agreed, the history is continous which is the position the Irish FA who administer the Northern Ireland team take, if you want to go down the road you are taking, then caps, appearances, goals etc all have to be separated into Northern Ireland caps and Ireland caps. You have listed the first NI game as being against Scotland in 1953, that is not correct the team that took to the pitch in that match was Ireland, as i said previously this has all been discussed before on this talk page, everyone acknowledged that it was complex issue but a position was agreed, and the article has been presented that way for the last approx 10 years until your recent edits. --HateBigotry (talk) 22:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: 9 days have now passed since i replied to your post and you have not responded. After you complained to the wikiproject football page about me continually reverting your edits and restoring the article back to the long agreed position, we were told to take it to this talk page to resolve. I would appreciate a response  --HateBigotry (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made my point. I don't know what else there is to say, but if you insist, I'll say it again. The article is about the Northern Ireland national football team, not the Ireland national football team (1882–1950), which has a separate article. Claiming records for the Northern Ireland team before Northern Ireland even existed makes no sense, and ignores the distinction that Wikipedia (in my view, correctly) draws. --Nicknack009 (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The history of the team is continous, the geopraphical territory of Northern Ireland has always been covered by the team created in 1882, Northern Ireland team records include all games from 1882 onwards as do caps, goals, managerial records, clean sheets etc etc, that is the position of the Irish FA who administer the team. There is no distinction taken by the Irish FA. As i pointed out in my earlier post how have you plucked out the first Northern Ireland game as being in 1953? Why not 1921 when the province of Northern Ireland was created or 1946 when the original Ireland team joined FIFA or 1951 when FIFA decreed that the original Ireland team could no longer pick players from the Republic of Ireland, or the late 1970's when the Northern Ireland name was used officially for all games, when you go down the road you want to go down you open a massive can of worms that is totally unnecessary, that is why the previous position had been agreed and had been stuck too for this last 10 years.--HateBigotry (talk) 22:59, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't choose that date. Somebody else chose it, I changed it back to that date. I'm open to another date. Is anyone else going to get involved in the discussion? --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1953 date doesn't make any sense that i can see and is an example of how complex the situation is when you try to go down this road, there is no specific start point for the Northern Ireland national team, the team has just played games continually from 1882 being administered by the Irish FA in Belfast, so when you list in the info box stats as (as Northern Ireland), how do you quantify that? first game from Northern Ireland came into existence 1921? FIFA membership 1946? Only pick players from NI 1951? Or when the team was called Northern Ireland in official games, which is even more complicated as the team competed in FIFA tournaments as Northern Ireland, and in non FIFA tournaments as Ireland right up to the late 1970's, as i have said the situation is complex and this is why it was agreed many years ago the cleanest way to leave the entry was with one set of records as the Irish FA themselves record the history. If there were clear start/end points like in the case of Yugoslavia/Serbia and Montenegro/Serbia then you could say it made sense to list these separate records but that is not the case.--HateBigotry (talk) 18:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: Can I say, as cordially as possible, to wholesale revert significant edits under "Minor tidy up" if not disingenuous is at least sub-optimal as far constructively improving an article goes. The two previous edits that were effectively reverted were summarised as follows:
"expanded context per existing reference"
"removed "Historic" prefix, seems inappropriate in context of opening sentence referencing sectarian incidents in 2010s"
Edit #1 was merely expanding the section using an existing reference, and Edit #2 was slightly altering the section title to more accurately reflect the existing text. Neither would justify a stealth reversion and I'm somewhat surprised it happened. NelsonEdit2 (talk) 21:10, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Minor tidy up" 

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