Talk:Carburetor

message: Not sure if this really belongs here, or maybe I'm the only one not knowing this - but if my guess is correct that "brl" is a common abbreviation for "barrel", perhaps this should be mentioned somewhere. I've often seen words like "4-brl carb" without ever knowing what "brl" means...--Cyberman TM (talk) 10:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is in fact incorrect. The abbreviation for "barrel" is "bbl", as in 1-bbl carburetor". Things like "brl" are leftovers from pay-by-the-letter classified ads, and do not belong in this article. —Scheinwerfermann T·C17:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: barrel => brl ?

message: This article is really hard to understand. It seems to start with the assumption of a basic knowledge of how carburetors work and plunges into discussion of the various kinds etc.
I know it's difficult to keep the right balance between technical accuracy and accessibility, but this piece copuld do with a much easier lead in to the details.93.97.194.138 (talk) 05:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I liked it.  I liked how the details began with the basic knowledge most readers would have since few unknowlegeable readers would even feign a slightest interest in carburetors, then how it moved into further depth involving a supercharger and a drag racer, and finally ended with the simplicity of a chainsaw, and any ordinary lawn equipment. I also liked how it was not cluttered with Wikipedia's over-indulgence with citations.  24.89.20.159 (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard to understand

message: This article says that the carburetor was invented by Benz, and improved by Bánki-Csonka. Even the source indicated says that they were totally independent inventions, and Bánki-Csonka were first by 6 months.
Sudyke (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong/misleading information

message: I propose to move this paragraph under a new heading:
"In the early 1980s, many American-market vehicles used special "feedback" carburetors that could change the base mixture in response to signals from an exhaust gas oxygen sensor. These were mainly used to save costs (since they worked well enough to meet 1980s emissions requirements and were based on existing carburetor designs), but eventually disappeared as falling hardware prices and tighter emissions standards made fuel injection a standard item." Aldo L (talk) 18:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electronic carburetors 

message: The SV1 Carburetor was invented and went into production in 2009 and patents are pending. This new carburetor has won many awards in the racing industry in it's debut year.  It deserves a place in the carburetor section.  It is a carburetor that has redefined and simplified the way carburetion works.  See link www.sv1carb.com, Here is some discussion:   http://www.speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18793&sid=183b0f6a56466a27f2cfd6be809b3ab3  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljsystem12 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it has not "redefined the way carburetion works". Carburetion is the mixing of liquid fuel with air for combustion in an engine. The SV1 has not changed that definition. It's a different style of carburetor, that's all, and unless some reliable support can be found for the notion that it's anything more than that, including it as such would run afoul of the fact that Wikipedia is not an appropriate place to advertise products. —Scheinwerfermann T·C22:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Sounds like a nifty carburetor. Wikipedia is still not an advertising venue. —Scheinwerfermann T·C23:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your perception of Wikipedia "suffering greatly" in fact appears to be nothing more or less than your unwillingness or inability to understand how this project works. —Scheinwerfermann T·C20:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  SV1 carburetor - should be added to the article 

message: There may be such a thing as a catalytic carburetor but it is not the same thing as a carburetor used for tractor vaporizing oil (TVO). A TVO carburetor has no catalyst, it just uses heat from the exhaust to vaporize the non-volatile kerosene fuel. Biscuittin (talk) 13:50, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have corrected this by splitting the section. Biscuittin (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

text: The only references that i can find to real world "catalytic carburetors", outside of wikipedia, are obviously talking about TVO carburetors. everything else is just the completely confused mess of garbled history from people trying to promote conspiracy theories. consequently i stripped out the apparent conflations with TVO. the next time someone wants to assert that these devices really honestly actually existed, they should do some real research and provide real references to real devices, rather than expecting people to share their convictions without evidence. my preference would be removal of this section, except that would also remove any argument against the next person foisting the same unreferenced material on the public  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.57.184 (talk) 10:08, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catalytic carburetor 

message: There is an error: the patent listed "U.S. Patent 4,177,779 — Fuel economy system for an internal combustion engine — Thomas H. W." is incorrect. "Thomas H. W." must be changed to read: "Thomas H. W. W. P. Ogle". I checked the US Patent link provided and verified that this is the official correct full name for the patent holder. Jopower (talk) 10:51, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patents 11.2 

message: We know that Daimler's patent suit was rejected by British courts in favor of Edward Butler. We know that two Hungarian guys got a patent for a stationary engine carburetor in 1993. The article states those facts. Do we actually have a good source saying "Edward Butler invented the spray carburetor"? The site http://magyarjarmu.hu/emberek/edward-butler-elete-es-munkassaga/ is some blog. Part of this hinges on the difference between "spray carburetor" and "carburetor for a stationary engine", which are two different things.<P>What's important to understand is that the Maybach carburetor was widely imitated, so it's historical importance is well established. Butlter's came first, but nobody heard of it and it had no influence. Wikipedia often distorts history by over-emphasizing obscure inventors like Butler while missing what was actually going on in the world, which was that the automobile was taking off and Daimler-Maybach's designs were at the center of it. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungarians vs Edward Butler 

message: This is mentioned in passing twice; once in an image comment, and once in an image. Explanation would be appreciated!--137.205.174.41 (talk) 17:40, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Air horn is a casual term for velocity stack; it's not the same as an air horn. I piped a link to velocity stack. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:48, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that.--137.205.174.41 (talk) 17:04, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Air horn? 

message: The article has nothing about 2-cycle carburetors. They generally have no float bowl, may have a primer bulb (which is widely misunderstood) and some need to work when tilted at odd angles or even upside-down (e.g. for chainsaws or weed trimmers).
Come to think about it, 4-cycle lawnmowers and other small equipment usually do not have a fuel pump, and are not set up for gravity feed of fuel, but have a fuel pumping function built into the carburetor. This also needs to be explained.
Perhaps 2-cycle carburetors should be in a separate article.  Gypsydoctor (talk) 15:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not a "2 cycle" carburettor, thats a diaphragm carburettor. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2-cycle carburetors need to be covered 

message: Carb is definitely a term used in Australia and New Zealand. It suggests to me that we can remove that note about that being specific to North America.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bostwickenator (talk • contribs) 13:55, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What suggests? What does "it" refer to? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbreviations 

message: Hello everyone. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how these processes work. I've copied the list of carburettor companies into a new article as I've seen that most lists have dedicated articles.(List of carburetor manufacturers). Apologies if this breaks any rules; please contact me if that's the case. Thanks and stay well.
User:EH86055 | User talk:EH86055 | 25/7/2020  —Preceding undated comment added 00:30, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored the List of manufacturers because List of carburetor companies no longer exists. Gab4gab (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just restored the article and replaced the link. EH86055 (talk) 02:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving list of carburetor companies to a new article 

message: I was amused by a "pissing contest" (direct quote) of 2007 in the archive so I created the needed Colortune article. Not much more than the stub that Scheinwerfermann says (epoch 2007) is needed until I have imaged instruction manuals etc.
Wportre (talk) 21:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder what happened to that. Did someone fold it back in here? --BjKa (talk) 14:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colortune 

message: I'm calling "Citation Needed" on that "burette" business.
I find it highly unlikely that car/burette are the etymological building blocks of the term. It directly contradicts the much more likely source of the word as having something to do with the French "carburant"/"carburateur"-complex of words. I would bet that "car" wasn't even a word that meant anything to engine builders before 1900 (unless it's what we call a "bus" today, but probably drawn by horses...).
To really know what's going on here would involve resarching old literature, and who used "carburet(t)or" first, and how did he come up with it. Everything else is just guesswork.
--BjKa (talk) 14:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It appears to be WP:OR. Jojalozzo (talk) 22:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology