Talk:Twink

message: Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion June 30 to July 7 2004.  Page was redirected to Twinkie to allow for later disambiguation. Discussion:
Dictionary definition that's not entirely accurate -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 23:31, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally, "Twink" has been around as gay slang for many, many years... at least as far back as the 1980s, possibly earlier Kevyn 23:23, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree absolutely that it has been in use as gay slang for that long or longer.  I believe, though, that it has been shifting rapidly, especially lately.  The term has been used by heterosexual women as a reference for a 'cute boy,' by heterosexual male discourse as 'soft boy,' and it's making into sitcoms with varying meanings.  I don't disagree with its being in Wiktionary, but after it has settled down some.  Right now, it would be virtually impossible to describe the way it's used.  An historical definition is possible, although wouldn't the heading be "Twinkie?"  I recommend adding a section to Twinkie indicating its usage. Geogre 16:27, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point, Geogre. Recommend redirect of 'Twink' to Twinkie, and add a section to Twinkie about slang usage. Kevyn 17:20, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes for deletion (30 June to 7 July 2004) 

message: I would like to disambiguate this page. Based on discussions with my Irish friends, they would naturally associate 'Twink' with the Irish celebrity Adele King (just as one might associate 'Sting' with the pop singer Gordon Sumner). How about moving the gay slang to 'Twink (gay slang)', the internet (gamining) community usage to 'Twink (internet slang)', and having also a link on the disambiguation page to Adele King? Fibula 12:38, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Guidelines used to be that the most common usage of a term should be at that term. If a disambiguation page is needed it is at "Term (disambigutation)". Hyacinth 20:58, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page naming suggests this is the case if 'Term' has a primary topic which editors agree is the primary meaning of the term. In the case of 'Twink' all the meanings listed to date are fairly obscure - 'Twink' is no 'Rome' or 'Bach' - although no doubt they are common currency in the particular communities that use them: an adopted name for an entertainer who is a household name in Ireland; a slang word in the (North American?) gay community; and a slang word for some Internet gamers. Unfortunately, the Internet cannot be used as an arbiter, due to its systematic bias towards pages of a sexual nature ... but if you search on http://www.google.ie for 'Twink' with Safesearch on and pages from Ireland, all the first pages listed relate to the entertainer.  (Of course, the 'Irish' Internet may not be usable as an arbiter either, due to a systematic bias against homosexuality...) Fibula 21:59, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I'd say it's appropriate to disambiguate, since outside a given community, there is no dominant definition.  Before your mention here, I'd never heard of Adele King, nor the name Twink in reference to an entertainer, but have heard the gay slang usage dating from at least c.1990. The oldest independent evidence I can present is from 1993 via the Google Usenet Archive.  Autiger 06:04, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation (7 to 13 August 2005)

message: "Twink (gay slang), a young or young-looking male homosexual"
My understanding of the word is that although it is used primarily by homosexual people it does not necessarily refer to homosexual men. Therefore I think the word 'homosexual' should be removed.
If you go to BorderCity.com you will see I have choosen the name twinky or twink.  Not only are the members there extremely vulgar and disrespectful they are using my name in some very slanderous ways that could hurt my children.205.206.10.115 22:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexual? 

message: Why does it state that they are attractive? Isn't that an opinion that would be impossible to logically back up? Billions of Christians and Muslims would find the idea of a "gay" person to be disgusting, for example.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.18.148 (talk) 22:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attractive reference