Talk:Wladimir Klitschko

message: We appear to have returned to the Kiev-Kyiv argument, where different Roman-script transiterations are used. (In this case English-Polish). Here we have an English-German issue. I appreciate that "Wladimir" spends much of his time in Germany, where his name is spelt that way, but since we're reading this in English, it seems absurd to me that his name is not transiterated into English as 'Vladimir'. That's how he would pronounce it. The icing on the cake is that Wikepedia transiterates his brother's name as 'Vitali' and not "Witali".
:I am all for moving this page to Vladimir, since practically all other Vladimirs are transliterated this way. --Berkut 10:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like he spells his name "Wladimir" on the brothers' official site. Olessi 16:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've changed all occurrences back to Wladimir, since that's the spelling he uses on the website, even in the English version. The only exception is that for "real name" in the infobox I used the standard transliteration of his Ukrainian name, Volodymyr Volodymyrovych Klychko. —Angr 08:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliterations 

message: according to boxrec wladimir was born in Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan
:When he was born it was the USSR - hence not listed as Kazakhstan.--Stick Negative (talk) 13:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BIRTHPLACE 

message: Both brothers have formed their own charities that contribute to children in need in Africa and South America. 
I've heard that there's a lot of poverty in Ukraine. Are the brothers indifferent to it, or is something being left out about their activities? Falange (talk) 13:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  POVERTY IN UKRAINE? 

message: Howdy folks. I think we should trim down on the 'fight notes'. GoodDay (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The win-loss-draw section 

message: I could have sworn I read somewhere he was Jewish? 195.212.29.92 (talk) 13:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I could have sworn I read somewhere the moon is made of green cheese: should that be in Wikipedia too?  In fact, should everything that anyone could have sworn they read anywhere be added?  Wackypedia rules, eh?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.3.98 (talk) 18:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, come on! Everybody knows the moon's made of cheese. --188.104.157.3 (talk) 19:09, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish 

message: Surely klitschko is the WBA super champion and the regular title is vacant?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.4.248 (talk) 02:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  wba title 

message: Not a lot of commentary on this fight. I watched it again recently. He was leading the entire fight until the 11th, when he went down and they stopped it. He didn't seem to be getting hit with a lot of shots, he just seemed to run out of gas. I recall at the time there was a lot of discussion about him having some sort of blood sugar problem. I also remember them talking about this before his first fight with Samuel Peter. Anyway, he seems to be over it now. I wonder if it was an issue with his diet, his supplements, or his fitness and training regimen.
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I just reckon he plain and simple was very young and overconfident, therefore lacking the wisdom of pacing a 12 round fight, he was only 22 at the time. With most modern heavyweights peaking in their mid 30's, he was practically a kid in comparison. Cheers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussieswimmer (talk • contribs) 02:09, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ross Purity 

message: can this article please be semi-protected? Im so tired and sick of cleaning up og re-install things we have already put in the article. Just so, some punk as persons can mess it up again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by David-golota (talk • contribs) 00:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected? 

message: It should be labeled on how many times he was world champion because I don't see it. AnthonyTheGamer (talk) 21:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number Of Times World Champion 

message: Wladimir Klitchko’s opponent in his April 25, 2015 fight will be Bryant Jennings, currently the “Opponent” field is blank in the “Personal Boxing Record” table for that fight.
Szigalo (talk) 19:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2014 

message: Why does it say that  Klitschko currently has 18 consecutive title defenses, behind Louis' 25 and Holmes' 20. Isn't it 22 atm? 43-64 wins. And what about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_reigning_heavyweight_champions 31.220.232.78 (talk) 03:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: From his first defence against Calvin Brock, to his most recent one with against Bryant Jennings—that's eighteen straight. If we combine that with his five defences in his first reign, beginning with Derrick Jefferson and ending with Jameel McCline, that brings his total defences to 23. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 04:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consecutive title defenses? 

message: Hello! When you google search Wladimir Klitschko's name it says his spouse was Aleksandra Klitschko which is untrue. When you go to his Wikipedia page there is not even a mention of Aleksandra so I was wondering if there was a way to remove her name from the wikipedia box on google search?
Joneto13 (talk) 16:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia google search 

message: are you sure about these things?  can you substantiate them??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:333E:1F0:D1E0:8C24:AE52:34F (talk) 22:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  is this stuff true?? 

message: Several of Wladimirs losses appear to have been removed from his records by vandals.
The correct record is available here   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:184:4980:7220:8985:A0E6:B3F7:E214 (talk) 00:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boxing record 

message: Klitschko vs Joshua section. 'Rematch close' should read 'rematch clause'. DannySD (talk) 12:12, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: – typo fixed. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:00, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2017 

message: I don't doubt this, and I'm sure many boxing aficionados won't either, but I'm struggling to find good sources on that claim. So, let's find some! Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  One of the greatest heavyweight knockout artists 

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message: It hasn't reached a fifth paragraph yet, which would warrant , but I'm of the opinion that there is far too much detail about his myriad boxing records in the lead. They should be shunted to a Legacy section, similar to that of Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe. The inclusion of Wladimir's many title reigns should be enough for the lead. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:45, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth lead paragraph (records, legacy, etc.) 

message: -- GreenC 17:04, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the Press 

message: I hadn’t seen this discussed anywhere, but the sanctioning boxing organizations always have rules that a title holder is required to meet a credible challenger within a certain time limit. Did the Klitschko brothers ever come up against this directive? Obviously, the federations must have some exception in the rules for close relatives, as they couldn’t very well compel the guy to fight his own brother. WHPratt (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fraternal Exception? 

message: Another unregistered user changed Wladimir's height from 6 ft 6 in to 6 ft 5 in without giving any source or reason, even though several of his most recent fights and other articles on the wiki give his height as 6 ft 6 in. Yet for some reason my edits are being repeatedly reverted, without sufficient explanation, despite me giving plenty of explanation myself. The burden of proof for this edit should rest with the user who originally changed Wlad's height to 6 ft 5 in, not me. Wladimir is well known amongst boxing fans to be 6 ft 6 in and any change to 6 ft 5 in needs a valid reason.  86.185.4.185 (talk) 20:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The HBO ref is uncontestable (they listed him as 6' 6" for years), so simply revert any changes on sight. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you 86.169.127.198 (talk) 13:14, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

message: here. I intended to revert but accidentally used rollback. – 2.O.Boxing 16:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Accidental use of rollback

message: Can somebody move the page back to its original title per WP:COMMONNAME? The spelling Wladimir Klitschko is indisputably used in the "significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources". – 2.O.Boxing 14:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like someone has already taken care of this. Red Phoenix talk 23:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I have never made a correction/edit, so I do not feel comfortable doing that, but I do believe this phrase/link is wrong: "Buster Posey earned $20.8 million", as it links to baseball player Buster Posey.
206.130.140.25 (talk) 22:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  wrong link/person 

message: Wladimir Klitschko Is undoubtedly known for his boxing as you say . But not everyone follows boxing and they might come to the article from other directions. To them, boxing might be his "day job", secondary to his academic interests.
Isn't this article a biography? Few people are unidimensional. Is Wikipedia an encyclopedia or a specialist magazine? The MOS states "Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal". To that, we might add "ring guide" or "sports digest".  Most athletes have interesting facets to their character other than their sport. Most people have interesting facets to their character other than what they might be best known for.  The reason for their fame can change with their personal history or the interests of the reader.
Winston Churchill was a writer and a painter. So was Adolf Hitler. I am reminded of the old joke "You mean Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?"
Nazem Kadri is more than a hockey player.  He is a member of the Stanley-cup-winning Colorado Avalanche. But he is also a Muslim, a Canadian of Lebanese descent, and champion for mental health.
Dan Ackroyd is more than an actor or comedian. He's a musician and businessman. He was a reserve police officer. He is passionate about geology and paleontology.
Mohammed Ali was a boxer. He was also a black, American, conscientious objector. Ali was a spoken word artist, a writer and an actor.
Margaret Thatcher is best known as a former prime minister of the UK. But she was always proud of her education and early career as a research chemist. She was also a barrister and that might be of most interest to some people.
Lewis Hamilton is more than a racing driver. He is a Briton, he is black, and he is an Arsenal fan. He is an advocate against racism, for animal rights, and for the environment. 
Ronald Reagan was an actor. He was also a politician who became president of the United States. Should his acting record be suppressed in favour of his political results? Should there be separate articles for these subjects?
Niki Lauda was an aviation entrepreneur, founder of three airlines. He was racing driver too.
Joe DiMaggio was an American of Italian descent. He was affected by interment during World War II, yet he served in the US Army. He was a husband of Marilyn Monroe, a heavy smoker and drinker. He also playing baseball.
Benjamin Disraeli was a British statesman who served twice as prime minister of the UK. He was also of Jewish heritage, a political writer and a novelist.
Wladimir Klitschko was an adjunct professor at Switzerland's University of St. Gallen. He's a golfer who speaks four languages. He is a member of his country's armed forces. Oh, by the way, he used to be a professional boxer.
Wladimir Klitschko is a whole person, just like you and me. Who is to say which portions of our personality and experience are most important, and which are secondary?  In any case, significant secondary facets shouldn't have to be subordinated by prominence in some other area. I didn't go to the article about him for boxing statistics, although under other circumstances I might have done so.
Please restore my edit. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 00:18, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted your edit per MOS:BLP. The lead should primarily focus on what made the subject notable (MOS:CONTEXTBIO), which is boxing. His service in the defence of Ukraine has one paragraph in the personal life section which makes it's inclusion in the lead WP:UNDUE (MOS:BLPLEAD). His PhD isn't a significant aspect of his life or relevant to his notability, however, it could possibly be introduced in relation to his nickname. Something along the lines of  Failing that, it does not belong in the opening paragraph. – 2.O.Boxing 02:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

text: Erm, yeah. Sure lol – 2.O.Boxing 08:02, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  More than a boxer 

message: When I saw this phrase I thought, Max Schmeling was pretty far back there.  Max Schmeling died at 99 years old in 2005 when Klitschko was 29 years old.  The actual article from 2005 referenced says, "Klitschko does open up about his friendship with German heavyweight great Max Schmeling."  Friendship here could mean in the sense that Max Schmeling was a role model for Klitschko, not that Vladimir ever communicated or met with Max Schmeling.  Max Schmeling, from all I have read, was a good person to have as a roll model.  It just seems far-fetched to say he was actually "friends" referencing only that line from the article. Easeltine (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: ...is deep into the territory of WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. We follow what the sources say. – 2.O.Boxing 20:45, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "He was friends with the late German heavyweight legend Max Schmeling.[454]" 

message: Based on this source, in Ukraine the fight drew a 9.6 rating, audience 4+. Given that, the chances of the fight averaging 7.1 million viewers are next-to-zero. Given that the population of Ukraine was estimated to be around 46 million people and the 4+ audience was cca 44 million people, 7.1 million viewers is more likely to be the total number of viewers. Kacza195 (talk) 18:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Klitschko vs. Thompson II, TV viewership in Ukraine