Talk:Arturo Alfonso Schomburg

message: While merging Arthur Schomburg into Arturo Alfonso Schomburg I came across a couple of inconsistencies which I mention here:
*Virgin Islands Dutch ruled or Danish ruled when Arturo studied there? Looks like Danish ruled to me.
*Two sons or three with his first wife Elizabeth? Article said two (Arthur A. and Kingsley) but I found another which said three (Maximo Gomez, Arthur Alfonso Jr., and Kingsley Guarionex) 
*First son with second wife named Reginald Stanfield or Reginald Stanton? 
--Stormie 04:24, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Re: Dutch vs. Danish: Danish.  The Dutch influence in the V.I. (at least St. Thomas) was in the late 1600s and early 1700s.  Danish settlements started during that time, and the islands were an official Danish colony from 1754-1917. 
:--Gruepig 03:47, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: Hello,
I'd really like to know about Arturo Alfonso's father being mestizo - this is not in the family books for sure.
Carlos Frédrico Schomburg was born in 1832 in Hannover province, Germany - his complete name was, in his native tongue, Carl Andreas Freiderich(k) Schomburg. Working first as a painter, then as a merchant shipman, he moved early in his life from his native Hannover to Denmark (Copenhagen), then later north to the port town of Skagen where he married and fathered six children between 1862-1875. Carl did much trading in the then still-Danish Virgin islands during his lifetime.
I'm going to have a hard time providing a reference for my information - it comes from my own family records and no published place other, so I won't be putting any original research here. The only online evidence I can find to cite is the Danish census board website - http://ddd.dda.dk/dddform_uk.asp - no direct link, but do a search for "Schomberg" in the province of Aalborg and you'll have the right record (a census from 1860). (Note: remark that although spelled differently, this is the same family, consistant in household and members through the census years (and this with my own family records) - census registrars in other years have spelled the name Schomborg, Schombørg and even Schaumburg and Schaumborg).
Looking forward to any additional information on this - thanks. THEPROMENADER 13:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (raising had) Again, Alfonso's father was my great-great-grandfather. But, Richard, where did you get your info? Any source is appreciated. Cheers! THEPROMENADER ✎ ✓ 07:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Are the baseball player and Alfonso related? There were very few Shomburg records on Saint-Croix, as apparently Carl didn't stay there very long. THEPROMENADER ✎ ✓ 08:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  A slight update: I'd exchanged correspondance with the Schomburg Museum of Black Culture (since renamed the 'Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture'), and they sent me an entire package of documentation which pretty well confirms our family ties: I'm hoping to pay a visit there on my next trip to North America to get more info from historians there (and perhaps some usable sources). Cheers. THEPROMENADER ✎ ✓ 20:21, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arturo Alfonso's father - [[mestizo]]? 

message: The current text Hispanicizes AAS's mother's second name and treats it as a personal name when other sources have it as Joseph and a surname. There is a Black family from St. Croix surnamed Joseph that was there at the right time.RichardBond (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arturo Alfonso Schomburg's mother's name 

message: St. Thomas was a college in the British sense not the American sense. It was a private school offering what Americans call high school.RichardBond (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Thomas College 

message: Carole Boston Weatherford's book, Schomburg, The Man Who Built A Library, on page 16 has illustrated wedding pictures of three marriages, p 17 text is titled THREE ELIZABETHS, and the text has a paragraph on each marriage, listing the children of each. This Wikipedia entry for Arturo Schomburg has only the first two that Weatherford lists, and states that the second lived until Schomburg passed. Weatherford states that when the second Elizabeth Morrow Taylor passed, he married Elizabeth Green and they had three children and that he had children with each of the three Elizabeths.
I looked up Arthur Schomburg on Wikipedia after having read the Weatherford book with a boy I tutor at a library, seeking some additional information regarding Schomburg - I was rather shocked to see the Wikipedia article list only two Elizabeth spouses, after my student & I were both very taken by t he fact, according to Weatherford that he had married three Elizabeths!Ohiyesapr (talk) 00:01, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arturo Alfonso's spouses - two Elizabeth's or three? 

message: I have noticed in some websites the erroneous posting of Arturo Alfonso Schomburg's name as Arthur Alfonso Schomburg, especially on websites dealing with African-American history such as this one:  and this one: . Let me clarify that in Schomburg's birth certificate his name appears as "Arturo" and that he never legally changed his name even though he may have been called by his "Americanized" name "Arthur" by his African-American friends. This reminds me of Roberto Clemente. When Roberto came to the United States to play for the Pirates, the press wanted to call him "Bob" Clemente, but he was too proud of his Puerto Rican heritage, as I am sure Schomburg was, to change his name. Therefore, let's always keep his true and real name "Arturo" in his bio. and ask those who change his name in other websites to do the same. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: "Arturo" or "Arthur"?