Talk:Singing

message: I came to this article hoping to find out a bit about, say, an anthropological history of singing, how it developed in different cultures, how cultures around the world engage in it and perform it - and get a really Western, Americanised perspective starting from highly Westernised vocal pedagogy discussion and culminating in American Idol. I know, , but I'm here to learn, not to edit, and I'm surprised no one's commented on this already... 155.143.163.20 (talk) 16:59, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see that it was brought up once and ignored. 155.143.163.20 (talk) 17:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Richard Miller addresses the topic in a minor way in this book which was published in 2011. He pointed out that there is a need for a lot more scholarship in this area, and that studies and publications on non-western singing in an depth and serious way have not yet been done. That's not to say that there isn't valuable content out there (certainly a lot of more generalized scholarship by ethnomusicologists has been done that is pertinent), but that part of the bias in this article is simply a reflection on the limited amount of resources available and the specialized knowledge of this topic. Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:03, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western bias? 

message: This article has a very narrow focus. It would be good if it could cover more cultures, and discuss the origin and history of singing.Ordinary Person (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but sourcing is an issue for cultures outside of the Western world. Please see my comments above in the topic 'Western Bias?". Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin and History of Singing 

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message: Rj Siddharth Thakur is a professional Singer and Wrestler Rjsiddharth (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Competence is required. Spam is banned here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 11:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rj Siddharth Thakur 

message: A photo of an unknown woman singing, talking, lip-synching, dancing, miming or modelling was recently added to the top of the article (over Piaf) by the photographer. I removed it because it is not notable, relevant or even clearly evidenced as authentic singing. The photographer has reintstated it. I will remove it again unless someone can show us that it is appropriate here. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:09, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: New photo

message: Samer Hikmat is an amazing singer that is very special. many teacher love this student.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truestuisright (talk • contribs) 17:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samer Hikmat 

message: Ray Charles and Elton John are well known singers. How does their posture fit in with what is mentioned in the article?
What does sitting do mechanically that hinders singing?Trauha (talk) 16:13, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posture 

message: The article is about singing, not singers. If we are to have a photo at the top of a singer, I think it should be one who is deceased or at least no longer personally in the business. Adding a singer who is currently competing for attention & promotion to the top of this article is not the way to go. I will be reinstating Piaf again (for the 3rd or 4th time) unless someone disagrees convincingly. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: My opinion is that the best image should be used to complement the article - whoever is featured in the image is irrelevant. Posting an image of a deceased or retired singer is still technically promotion - music continues to be sold regardless of whether a singer is active, retired or deceased. The current lead image is a recent image, it is a colourised photo, the subject is facing the camera and their act of singing is very clear and visible. I have no issues in maintaining the current lead image.--Alza08 (talk) 11:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "I have no issues in maintaining the current lead image." Does that mean that you do not have a conflict of interest here? Or that you have no issue with (you do not object to) keeping a photo that you added yourself? Of course, the work of deceased artists still makes money, but there is hardly any promotional marketing for them in competition with current living and popular and competitive singers. This article is not for promotion of any such singer, neither in text nor image, especially not at the top. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not have a conflict of interest, and I have no issue with maintaining the current lead photo. I agree that the article is not for the promotion of any singer. I changed the lead image because I saw the new image as better conveying the subject matter, per the reasons I have previously provided.--Alza08 (talk) 14:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Still very confusing. You "have no issue with maintaining the current lead photo"? You're the one who added it, aren't you? Do you or do you not know Ellie Goulding and/or Guy Sebastian (next talk section) personally? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've said, I have no issue with maintaining the current lead photo. I do not know Ellie Goulding or Guy Sebastian personally; I added their images into the article because I saw them as the best images to illustrate key points within the article, for the reasons I have already previously provided.--Alza08 (talk) 04:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

text: As I have stated, the lead image should be the best available image - whoever is featured in the image is irrelevant and should not be a consideration. Adding the best available image to an article is not promotional - it is simply a matter of quality and suitability. The current image is superior to the previous image for the reasons I have previously provided, hence why it replaced the previous image.--Alza08 (talk) 16:42, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Top image

message: A section on singing competitions has had a selective photo added of a current winner of one competition who is named in the caption. That's promotional, if you ask me. A photo from an awards ceremony or competition where several performers are shown, and none is named, might be appropriate. The promo is not. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo is not a promotional picture - it is a picture of a person who illustrates the subject matter of the section, having appeared as both a participant and as a judge on multiple different singing competitions.--Alza08 (talk) 14:11, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo per se is mot promotional. What's clearly promotional is adding it to this particular article while naming the person in it. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Singing competition photo

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