Talk:Groveland, Massachusetts

message: As a former resident of Groveland, I'm glad to see its entry has been expanded.  Aside from some minor style edits, here are the changes that I made:
I had a bit of a problem with the description of Groveland as "wealthy" as this was not quantified and could be seen as POV.  I changed it to "quiet, primarily residential" which seems to better describe it.
When was Elm Park added to the town center?  The article said it was added recently but it would be good to change this to the actual date or month / year so as to keep the article from becoming outdated.
Another question I had was about the statement that most of the town's population is located near the town center.  That may be where much of the activity is but as far as population, Groveland always seemed, still appears to be, pretty well distributed.  I left the statement as is but any thoughts would be welcome.
Also, I minimized the reference to Emily Brody's death since it seemed to be too much of a subject shift as it was presented.
--Ajcomeau 23:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: The Crime section of the article kept bugging me so I did a little more checking.  This is the only article I was able to find on-line referencing Beth Brodie and it challeges the idea that Groveland has only had one recorded homicide which I wasn't sure of.
Article from Eagle-Tribune
--Ajcomeau 00:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime

message: I rewrote the history from http://www.usigs.org/library/books/ma/Groveland/groveland1950.html . Then I used the last official census that had information available, to use information that was verifyable. Basically, I rewrote most everything because it seemed like an undocumented advertisement for some stores downtown. As much as we all like Sheehan's Resturant, it means nothing to somebody in Europe (or Boston for that matter). LymanSchool 16:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I don't know why 208.31.34.100 needed to edit perfectly good text, adding nothing but simply changing it. This is not good to just change something for the sake of changing it. If you want something useful to do, please create articles for the red-lined text. The Pentucket School District needs several entries. LymanSchool 23:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by annoymous

message: When I first decided to fix up what was an obvious hack with deliberate misinformation, apparently generated by jokesters, I took the time and effort to write the text with a word processor, and spell and syntax-check it. My original revision was written to the Chicago Manual of Style specifications. Then, some helpful anonymous soul rewrote a lot just to make it different – not better, just different. Then others modified that. Today, I re-corrected it back to proper English. Please, if you edit this, add USEFUL content! Do not just change things just for the heck of it. -- LymanSchool 01:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LOOK

message: Who is this? This is an unsourced statement. Even if there WAS somebody important with this name, the POV is wrong. You can't refer to a person as "the most important." The only Geoffrey Breton I could find on the web, or in the literature was somebody in King Arthur. Please either provide a reference or delete the statement about Geoffrey Breton. --LymanSchool 02:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed reference to Geoffrey Breton --LymanSchool 22:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Geoffrey Breton

message: What are you people complaining about? Most of the writing in this entry is terrible. A "grammatically correct” piece is not by default a “well-written” piece. Read the Elements of Style before attacking other posters, you silly geese.
*Well when you edit somebody else's work, it is common decency to make sure your information is correct. It might also be useful to copy the intended text into your favorite word processor for a spell and grammar check. This helps reduce the embarrassment of making a mess of a published work.--LymanSchool 02:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hm... 

message: Most of what is said here is copied from other sources, word for word; it's hardly original.
You also didn't understand what I said. I didn't say there was anything wrong with using a word processor. I did say that the writing is terrible. Yes, it may be grammatically correct, but it is still bad writing. So...there. Read some books on writing, with special emphasis on GRAMMAR AND STYLE. Yes, most of the words are spelled correctly. Bravo. Now learn how to express ideas clearly and concisely and with better flow. Eliminate redundancies and unnecessary modifiers. Show a relationship between sentences. I know you can do it.
:I wouldn't tempt him if I was you. The author of the stuff the highschool boys crapped up, and then you tried to put back together, is a pubished author! Look at User:LymanSchool, follow the links at the bottom of the page, you might learn something! When you try to fix something, you should always try to find the last edits that made sense before they were vandalized. Author Johnson rewrote a decrepit page because he lives in Groveland! Before he re-did the page it was just a hack of jokes created by highschoolers. N26825 03:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry John. Hello User:Abazur. Normally we sign our messages by using four tildes. That way we get to thank other editors for helping to fix projects. In the future, as you try to revert damage by vandals, it is better to look at previous edits to find the last good one, rather than rewriting a whole section. Thank you. Oh, by the way. You sound like you think you know how to instruct someone in writing. Perhaps I could trade off some instruction in etiquete. --LymanSchool 04:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: I thought you used Word?
*Yes. You were playing games when somebody hacked the page that I just reverted. If it was you, guess again. Try Wikipedia:Don't be a dick. ---LymanSchool 16:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's "etiquette." 

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