Talk:Romani society and culture

message: "In Hungary, 44% of Roma children are in special schools, while 74% of men and 83% of women are unemployed."
Do we have so much special schools ? References ? Frigo 10:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Some books (including at least one that is downloadable) that might be of value to somebody trying to expand the section:
www.RomaniFolktales.com
--198.103.167.20 (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folktales 

message: The short description before the subheadings talks more about romania - i propose either to move the content about the particular bands in the "rroma music" article or, perhaps, (though i believe that's not the wikipedia way) somebody from another country or has knowledge about how it's like there to add content regarding rroma music in that place. I also believe the word "lăutari" is used pretty much only in romania (since it's a romanian word as well) and possibly neighbouring countries, but i really think it's not a universal rroma word, and maybe those who live in other countries have a different word for their bands. 
Then again, a good part of this article appears to me as a presentation of Romanian gypsies (giving that i've seen the word "Romania" more here than in the article on Romania, but that might just be me) with short descriptions of how it's like in other countries, and that somebody who is well documented on this subject should one day do a rewrite to provide a more world-wide description of their culture, while moving the mostly-romanian parts in a seperate article (if it doesn't already exist) Alzwded (talk) 20:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: music

message: I do not think that is a real word. Ethnicity or something seems like a much better match? 50.34.242.90 (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and further, this hatnote dab between Romani and Romanian  has been debated elsewhere and found unnecessary, (possibly at the Romani people Talk, if memory serves). Will remove unless there are policy-based objections. RashersTierney (talk) 21:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnical? 

message: "Because of their nomadic lifestyle..."
This is the first time a nomadic lifestyle is mentioned.  It's apparently a significant enough part of romani culture that everybody knows about it, but there's no section here explaining the reasons for it, or explaining that it exists, or what it means to be nomadic (i.e. they form temporary camps near cities vs. traveling around to pasture sites with their livestock)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.201.38 (talk) 23:40, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomadic lifestyle 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: No citations given yet.  Citations needed throughout this section. Kdevans (talk) 21:41, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Purity and death

message: Currently the lede reads (only) "The Romani people have similar value systems and worldviews.". Similar to whom? This needs expanding into a whole paragraph. 86.131.10.124 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article lede needs expanding

message: §Being a part of Romani society (subsection of §  Moral values), in spite of the promise of its expansive title, consists of two brief and unrelated paragraphs:
 
:   A considerable punishment for a Rom is expulsion from Romani society. An expelled person is considered to be "contaminated" and is shunned by other Romanis.
:   Travelling Roma left symbols or signposts for their traveling fellows, known as patrins (an old word for leaf).
Without any related material, the second paragraph is just a piece of  Trivia.
The content of each of these paragraphs should either be merged coherently into other sections of the article, or (especially the second one)  simply deleted.
--Thnidu (talk) 03:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivial section 

message: I would caution those who are adding "neo-pagan"/"wiccan"/"magic" sources to support dubious claims about Romani beliefs to be very selective and careful about verifying the background of authors who write this material; many, if not most, of the "New Age" material written about us is patently false or derived from Edwardian/Victorian fictions created to romanticize us and our culture. Simply searching the word "Draba" will return to you many fictive sources from roleplaying games and various new age charlatans on Google, as one example. I am Kalderash, my mother and her family come from Costinești in Romania. They still seek herbs for medicine here in America, and they still believe in old superstitions in many ways, but even in that I have never heard such beliefs like "sacred snakes" or "patron demons" or any such things. Water is respected but it is not magic, clean flowing water can cleanse that which is dirty and make it ready for use again and by extension, and due to exposure to Christian beliefs of spiritual cleansing through baptism like what my extended family in America believe as Pentecostal Christians some Romani people believe this ability of clean running water to be spiritually cleansing like in the washing away of sin as well. I am not Pentecostal and don't know very much about this aspect of the idea but I do know it is not considered "magical".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leotronik (talk • contribs) 05:27, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This whole romani society page is only based on christian roma culture. The food e.g. Romanipen etc. all from christian roma groups, You can't relate that to the Muslim Roma at all. Zigani (talk) 23:36, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Magic" and Neo-Pagan material 

message: The fact that all Roma groups do not eat eggs and chickens is not true at all. 
Especially the Romanlar in Turkey eat chicken and eggs, and have their own recipes for it which are well known in Turkey, such as, Cingene Tavugu and Cingene yumurtasi: Yumurta,https://romanigodi.org/roman-mutfagini-taniyor-muyuz-3-cingene-yumurtasi/ and https://www.nefisyemektarifleri.com/firinda-cingene-tavugu/ Zigani (talk) 14:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  chickens and eggs