Talk:Bradford Bishop

message: There is no source for the rather unrealistic claim that the idiom'put someone in their place' originated with this mass murderer. I am excising these sections; please provide a source for this claim. 24.224.214.165 (talk) 02:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: lack of sources

message: The article states that Bishop was expecting a promotion and that on the date of the murders received word he would not receive it.  What is the source for that contention?  I cannot find it corroborated anywhere. The same for his alleged use of prescription anti-depressants. Tom Cod 20:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expected Promotion?

message: "According to a co-worker of Bishop's, his family (primarily wife and mother) constantly belittled him, telling him that he was a wash-up, and that he didn't have any ability in his job anymore. This may have caused him to feel very upset, and could have ultimately led to his decision to commit what seemed to be a crime of passion. The co-worker also went on to add that this was usually Bishop's way to "put someone in their place", as he liked to say himself." 
:: So he was in the habit of committing crimes of passion?  This makes no sense and certainly needs a citation.
:::Actually, it makes a lot of sense, going to his motive.  But you are right, it does require some citation as otherwise it is simply speculation, though I do recall this story being circulated in the local Washington media at the time. And no, people who commit crimes of passion, generally don't do so as a matter of habit.Tom Cod (talk) 05:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It should be noted that Bishop's neighborhood in those days was riddled with CIA officers, e.g. David Atlee Phillips.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.65.143 (talk) 16:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's uncited, but even if true, what does it matter? We66er (talk) 01:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The citation would be the publisher's information in D.A.P.'s self-published books (Stone Trail Press) which give his home address.  The relevance is that it was commonly believed that Bishop didn't work for the State Department.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.88.229.196 (talk) 15:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hearsay That Makes No Sense

message: This article says that his wife's body was found, "laying beside a book which she may have been reading at the time" but also says that, "dental records were used to confirm that the bodies found in North Carolina were of Bishop's wife, Annette, his mother, and three sons" So, which was it?Cottonshirt (talk) 03:58, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe she read in th car.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.252 (talk) 04:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wife's Body Found?

message: Ballet dancer Jacques d'Amboise revealed in his 2011 autobiography I Was a Dancer that he became a close friend of Bishop's parents, who were ballet fans, while he was still a teenager and that when he was seventeen and Bishop was fourteen, he lived with the family for a while. He described Bishop as very intelligent, reticent and intense. Years later, D'Amboise and his wife Carrie were meant to spend the night of the murders sleeping over at Bishop's home, but he was injured in a performance a few days earlier and they had to cancel. D'Amboise stated that he has wondered ever since if their presence that night would have prevented the murders or resulted in their being killed, as well.[12]
It's irrelevant. 24.97.201.230 (talk) 00:15, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This part should be deleted 

message: http://americanlivewire.com/2014-10-09-exhumed-body-may-belong-accused-murderer-missing-40-years/
Noted here for follow-up, if it proves relevant.  21:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Seemed relevant, even if it wasn't him. Added. There's a good chance all the other sightings we mention weren't him, either. One thing that certainly isn't him is the sculpture we use in his infobox. I suggest replacing it with the image of his actual face from that article (and everywhere else about him). We already have the artist's interpretations at the bottom. That sort of reimagining in high-traffic media can be misleading in certain eyes. See Jesus. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bradford's corpse possibly found 

message: Bradford Bishop was a CIA agent. This is a fact that has been deliberately omitted from the official record. The Agency most likely does not want to advertise the fact they had a depraved sociopath working for them at one point, and back in the mid-70's, during the cold war, that one of their own would commit such an unspeakable crime, before he defected to the Soviet Union and compromised a number of intelligence and security operations which were being conducted in Europe. When Brad Bishop was stationed in Italy back in the 1960's, he was involved in operations to infiltrate student groups, at various Universities, and other groups, which were sympathetic to the Italian Communist Party, which back in those days, was a number one target of NATO and western intelligence agencies. While Bishop was working for the CIA, he was involved in an affair with an attractive young Italian woman, who was a college student in Florence, and was also working as an "Access Agent" for the KGB. The official storyline for Bishop was that he murdered his family, shortly after learning he had been turned down for a promotion at the "State Department." This was later disproven, when it was admitted that he had solicited an inmate at a federal prison to carry out the hit on his family months before he learned of his demotion. The people he had contacted had declined to carry out the hit, because it involved killing children. The real reason he killed them was because he wanted to cut all ties to the U.S. before he defected to the East. He lived in East Germany for a while and also lived in a Croatian neighborhood in the vicinity of Eisenstadt, Burgenland, Austria. He died approximately 5-10 years ago, and he is buried under the name "Vittorio" in a Mausoleum somewhere in Rome, Italy.              — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.39.118.245 (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting theory! Any sources for that, too? ;) Dorpater (talk) 18:45, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced claim that Bishop was a CIA agent 

message: Australian source displays a supposed daughter: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/woman-discovers-dad-is-a-fugitive-on-fbi-most-wanted-list/news-story/b7db5c91862275a6236d215fff905041  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF09:ED00:F0F3:2FE9:5025:CD24 (talk) 10:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daughter? 

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