Talk:New York City mayoral elections

message: Does somebody knows how to improve this article ? I can't find election results for NYC Mayor before 2001. We know that in 1997, Giuliani won by a large margin, carrying 4 out of 5 boroughs (I presume he lost only in The Bronx, and that the 1993 and 1989 elections were close races, but that doesn't make an article. --Revas 21:45, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improving this article

message: Found election results for NYC mayor's race (99% precincts reporting) at CNN site. Added simple chart (borough breakdown was not available.)
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/gen/resources/election97/results.html
Added Mayor Giuliani's name to line 2. Nhprman 19:05, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1997 Results 

message: I'm surprised that nobody noticed that there were two elecitons missing. Impy, O'Brian, and Holy Joe were all mayors, too, ya know!!
The 1932 and '50 special elections were quite unusual, espeically since Impy was elected as an independent.
Also, the NYC Young Repbublicans club has a website and there, I found out which nonentities were nominated by the Republcians for Mayor in 1953 and '57, plus Louis Lefkowitz, who wasn't a nonentity.
Raider2044 Bio • Talk • Contribs 06:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your work, you really did great and long awaited job. I'll try to write some text in order to explain the context of each election. --Revas 17:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: the Greatest mayor of all (NOT!)

message: Are there records of the votes Fusion candidates got on their respective tickets, i.e. at the last election, how many Bloomberg got as a Republican and as an Independence candidate? --William Quill 11:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fusion candidates

message: I took a lot of time to compose this chart to show the winners in boldface. However, I also found that the natural impulse to frame the candidates' names so the reader could link directly to the candidate's Wikipedia article made the patterns of victory and defeat almost unreadable, so please resist the temptation. However, when we can find another way of showing wins and losses, I think that such Wikipedia links would be very desirable. (I have included such links to the minor parties and their abbreviations.) Shakescene (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found another way to show winners (colored boxes), so I've added my own links to Wikipedia articles. This is no longer a problem. Shakescene (talk) 21:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary Tables

message: There's room for some totally non-destructive shortening of this article by rewriting the code. I haven't mastered all the necessary Wikimedia skills (such as coloring single rows), but someone who understands Wiki markup, or who could create new templates might be able to cut down on the number of kilobytes quite painlessly. [I did right-align almost all my own tables (e.g. 1897-1941) at the top in order to save right-aligning individual number cells, but found that it's actually better to leave the names and parties right-aligned, too, because it lines up all the last names and keeps them closer to the numbers while still leaving white space and variety.] Shakescene (talk) 05:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: shorter code

message: I agree that the map (showing Bloomberg carrying Queens & Staten Island in 2001) had become redundant where it was, but it's useful for non-New Yorkers (and some New Yorkers) to have some map for reference (e.g. to see that Queens is is the furthest borough from Staten Island). Does someone have the technical skills to recolor Brooklyn and Manhattan in a second version of the map to show that they shifted to Bloomberg between 2001 and 2005, while he kept Queens & S.I.? That would be a useful reinforcement and show non-trivial information, as well as serving as a general reference of boroughs for all years and brightening up the long, grey tables of numbers. There is a non-election map in the Five Boroughs article, but unfortunately its color conventions (purple, orange, etc.) just don't match ours very well. Shakescene (talk) 05:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: (I removed this section from the main article) Jd2718 (talk) 21:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion of the article belongs on the discussion page. I understand your motivation, but it does not represent practice on WP. Jd2718 (talk) 15:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Technical notes

message: I'm pretty sure that's the wrong form of the word, and it should be "New York City mayoral elections", while you could refer to Bloomberg's tenure as "Bloomberg's mayoralty".  First I want to check with someone with more grammar knowledge than I have before moving the page.--Muboshgu (talk) 20:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I've put untold hours into this page since last spring, I've never particularly liked the style, since "mayoral" is much more colloquial (and consistent with the style for New York City mayoral election, 2001, etc.) But "mayoralty" isn't really incorrect grammatically, just clumsy. Perhaps the analogy was with New York City Council elections (rather than Conciliar Elections). Nouns have been used as adjectives for as long as English has been a language (e.g. Television Set, Kitchen Table, Egg Shell), and it just didn't seem worth my effort to change all the places where New York City mayoralty elections (and more trickily, links to particular election subsections such as New York City mayoralty elections#1921 & 1925) is now linked. There is a redirect from New York City mayoral elections, so the actual damage (e.g., for someone looking under the latter title) is rather limited. And there must now be links to the current title on external and dated sites outside Wikimedia's power to change. On the other hand, if someone wants to put all the effort into making a truly complete, careful and thorough move, I will far from heartbroken. —— Shakescene (talk) 21:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it's nothing really, and the redirect is there, but it's bugging me just enough that unless anyone objects, I may do it.--Muboshgu (talk) 02:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And I was just thinking, while it may be City Council (rather than conciliar) elections, it's almost never U.S. Presidency elections (as vs presidential). The tricky part comes where the adjective is not a readily-recognized everyday word (e.g. gubernatorial) or essentially (for the purpose of easy communication) non-existent, such as in elections for Lieutenant Governor (lieutenant-gubernatorial?), Comptroller (comptrollership?), Public Advocate (advocatorial?), Attorney-General, Secretary of State (secret? secretarial?) or Sheriff. But we do have mayoral and presidential. —— Shakescene (talk) 06:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is an interesting quirk of the language.  English doesn't always make sense.  I'm justifying the move as "mayoral" is more common than "mayoralty".  And I'll handle the redirects.--Muboshgu (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mayoralty"? 

message: Why no information on the 1977 Republican primary between Goodman (who won the nomination) and Farber (who lost, but still had the Conservative line)? Dvd Avins (talk) 20:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because the Republican primary results (unlike the Democratic ones) aren't listed at our main source for the 1957-93 elections, the 1995 edition of The Encyclopedia of New York City. I'll see if there's some way to slip in the bare numbers available at New York City mayoral election, 1977#Republican primary, which don't list results by borough. Any statistics or explanatory commentary you can add (preferably with some kind of source) would be extremely helpful at both pages. Remember that many readers are non-New Yorkers (like me) or (unlike me) weren't following politics in the 1970's (and thus wouldn't recognize Roy Goodman's or Barry Farber's names, or the contexts of their careers). —— Shakescene (talk) 21:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have sources, so I'll let you handle it as you see fit. One item of note is that while the first Jewish mayor (Abe Beame) had only been elected four years earlier, 3 of the four general election candidates (Koch, Goodman, and Farber) were Jewish. And since the vast majority of New York Jews were Democrats (then even more so than now) it's also remarkable that both contenders for the GOP nomination were Jewish. Dvd Avins (talk) 00:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see there's no page for Farber. He was a conservative radio talk show host. Dvd Avins (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact there is a page for Barry Farber, as I find out after writing all that stuff below. It hadn't linked on the election table, which used his ballot name Barry M. Farber, so I've just fixed that link. —— Shakescene (talk) 04:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

text: I was given to understand that Barry Farber had once been a liberal (if Republican or maverick independent) radio commentator/host who perhaps later became more conservative. Of course, 30-50 years ago, liberal and Republican were not mutually exclusive terms in New York politics. But I don't know much. The material I added or transferred to this article and to New York City mayoral election, 1977 was at about the same level of detail as given to other candidates, but it would be nice to explain in more detail if Goodman at that point represented the "Rockefeller" or Rockefeller/Javits/Keating wing of the GOP and Farber some other tendency or wing, or whether the contest was more one of differences of record, experience, approach and personality (or patronage). —— Shakescene (talk) 03:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

text: P.S. The Encyclopedia of NYC has no further information on Farber or Roy Goodman, other than that the latter as State Senator presided over a Charter review commission from 1973 to 1975. And looking up WMCA, which was one of Farber's outlets, I see I'd probably been confusing him, at least some of the time, with another WMCA host, Barry Gray.  —— Shakescene (talk) 04:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 1977 GOP Primary

message: Is there a reason why DeBlasio is not italicized for the 2017 election (in the first big table)? Wasn't he the sitting mayor at the time? 2604:2000:EFC0:2:741E:AD4E:20E7:E5C (talk) 03:55, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italics for DeBlasio?