Talk:Nelson Piquet

message: Whilst in no way wishing to detract from Piquet's (or Schumacher's) abilities and achievements, I think the statement that "A proof of Piquet's unique talent is that he and the seven-time champion Michael Schumacher are the only two drivers between 1980 and 2000 to have won world titles racing for teams other than McLaren and Williams - undoubtedly the two reigning forces in those decades" is a bit much. It would hardly be fair to describe McLaren as "a reigning force" in 1983, 1994 or 1995 (or Williams in 1983 for that matter). In 1983, Piquet was in one of the three best cars (Brabham, Renault, Ferrari) and in 1994, Schumacher was in one of the best two (Williams, Benetton). If Irvine had scored three extra points and taken the title in 1999, would that have put him on a par with Piquet and Schumacher? I think not! DH85868993 02:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it. DH85868993 23:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good call. The Gnome 06:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Pure original research. Royalbroil 18:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable statement 

message: Why no mention of his huge crash at the Indy 500 ?
:It's there: "One of the great characters of 1980s F1, he tried his hand at the Indianapolis 500 in 1992, but crashed during qualifying and was badly injured." DH85868993 23:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, but seeing as this accident ended his career, doesn't it deserve a larger appearance in the article?--Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indy 

message: I tried to clean up some of the clumsy prose, but this article still needs work. versen (talk) 08:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  overall quality 

message: Why was this page moved from Nelson Piquet?  A user searching for "Nelson Piquet" would most likely be looking for the famous F1 racer, not his son or racetrack.  If they were looking for his son or racetrack, the "otheruses1" template would suffice at the top of the article to point them to the dab page Nelson Piquet (disambiguation).  It seems strange to have an existing article at "Nelson Piquet" then move it to "Nelson Piquet Sr. (racing driver)". ♫ Bitch and Complain Sooner ♫ (talk) 21:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently under discussion at WP:F1. DH85868993 (talk) 00:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Consensus at WP:F1 is for this page to be reverted to Nelson Piquet. DH85868993 (talk) 08:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Could someone put a phonetic pronunciation of Piquet's name? I'm sure it's not pronounced as if it was French (with the silent 't') as the British commentators say. The Spanish, who should be more clued up on Portuguese pronunciation, pronounce the 't'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.30.28.186 (talk) 12:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of Piquet 

message: See . Apart from a lack of citations, the article as it stands now states that Piquet was born in São Paulo, and in  Rio de Janeiro. Clearly one at least is wrong. Can I ask that people find a source before adding such details, and read the whole article when editing it. It shouldn't need a posting at the WP:BLPN  to point out such obvious errors. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As what sources I can find online seem to give Rio de Janeiro as the place of birth, I have removed São Paulo - but none of the sources look 100% trustworthy, so I have marked Rio de Janeiro as needing citation. If anyone can find a reliable source for this, it will be useful - but watch out for articles which have used Wikipedia for a source. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Piquet was born in Rio. Citation: ADAC Special: Grand Prix 1989, Hamburg 1989 ISSN 0937-0137, page 100. (in German language). One could argue that the writer who said he is from Sao Paoulo was joking, as Piquet provoked Sao Paulo-Fans more than once:  http://formula1global.com/tracks/nelson-piquet-has-provoked-discontent-brazilian.html Definitely a gross error.--Michael G. Lind (talk) 13:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced and contradictory edits - including place of birth 

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: Going back further, the article says Piquet called Nigel Mansell an "uneducated blockhead", his wife Roseanne "ugly", Ayrton Senna "gay" and Enzo Ferrari "senile". Mansell's 1995 autobiography is given as the source for Mansell being unhappy about this, and we helpfully have a page reference, but it's not clear from the article whether that book provides a specific quotation of all four insults, and whether the footnote is supposed to be the source for the whole paragraph in our article or just Mansell's reaction. Perhaps someone who has access to it can check. If we are going to attribute specific words to people, we ought to have a specific source. Beorhtwulf (talk) 10:38, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if this is relevant or should be included, but Brazilians have also been remembering the time Piquet, when asked in a TV show who was better, him or Ayrton Senna, he said "Well, I'm alive" and proceeding to laugh. It is a widely known comment from Piquet amongst Brazilians, and there are many videos on Youtube showing the specific comment being made, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an English reputable source on it. Brazilian source 1, 2. Cosmia2 (talk) 16:42, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

text: I've added a 2018 book source on the 1988 controversy, and also a reference for Piquet still calling Senna gay in 2020. I agree that it's bad for a controversy section to rely on the writings of an allegedly aggrieved party. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The current section heading of "Offensive language" is perhaps not the most neutral heading to use. "Gay" (his description of "gay" to describe Senna), "Uneducated blockhead" and "ugly" are perhaps better described, in neutral terms, as insults rather than "offensive" language. In my view the section heading should be changed to "Use of insults" or "Insults" for a more neutral heading. If "neguinho" (in the context that Piquet used the word) means "little black guy" in Brazil, then many people would find that description offensive, but not all Wikipedia readers. When Piquet later apologised, he said that it was not intended to be racist. In my view, the heading of "Offensive" shouldn't be in Wiki-voice and the more neutral description of his language is "Insults". Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 23:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: About others

message: Nelson has recently bought out a business along FL SR 80/Southern Blvd, named Piquet Entertainment and Race Park. Figured I’d let y’all know, as a south florida local who drives past it all the time, and as an F1 fan who’s dating another F1 fan lol 2601:58A:4100:27E0:40A0:9D77:123:EA11 (talk) 07:49, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Business Venture (Loxahatchee, FL)