Talk:Schnorrer

message: There is only one other link with a similar name, and that is Karl Schnörrer; a disambiguation page would require more than two articles, though: It suffices to say that Schnorrer is a Yiddish term used in other languages as well, while saying "for a similar spelling see Karl Schnörrer" --FlammingoHey 19:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - the top link would do the job.  Seeing as his name is Schnörrer not Schnorrer, I don't think there should be any problem.  Don't German ös become oes when umlats are undesireable or not possible to type? Jimp 01:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PAGE MOVED per discussion above.  I sent the talk page that was already here to /Archive 1, and the article history that was previously here is deleted, as it contained no contribution history that's missing from the current version; just a bit of edit warring.  Please let me know if there are any questions. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jimp, yes, they do - Schnoerrer now redirects to Karl.--FlammingoHey 13:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to Schnorrer

message: This article does not include sufficient historic and geographic data, and changes in meaning over time, especially since much is readily available in the c.1906 Jewish Encyclopedia ref and its follow-on links.  The article is non-neutral because of non-inclusion of cherry-picked RS'd content.   CasualObserver'48 (talk) 08:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV and Expand tag 

message: Was the first Hebrew usage, or the first famous one, from Bialik's poem "City of Slaughter"? - Lazer Stein (talk) 02:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Bialik

message: What does the image have to do with the article? Is somebody "begging" from somebody else in that illustration? Bus stop (talk) 17:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The caption says "Polnische Schnorrer", so, yes. Beggars sometimes wore top hats in 1875, though the hats probably weren't new. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The inclusion of that image, originally added here seems pretty clearly antisemitic. The image depicts Polish "Schnorrers" as identifiably Jewish, and the caption presently lacks any elaboration or contextualisation of the antisemitic trope. The periodical the image is from had a history of antisemitism: Die Gartenlaube (q.v.). The article caption does not currently present the image as a duly contextualised historical example of non-Jewish hostile usage of the term, and the image does not actually clearly show someone begging – its contemporary in-image caption "Polnische Schnorrer" relies on the reader's pre-existing antisemitism; the reader is expected to already implicitly understand identifiably Jewish people to be schnorrers, otherwise the caption doesn't even really make sense. That, btw., is something this has in common with Mein Kampf, which also never even really tries to offer a convincing fundamental justification for its antisemitism; at a certain point the reader is simply expected to already be on board with it. —ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 05:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The concept is 100% Jewish, and your speculations are your fantasies: it is as antisemitic as the rest of Jewish humor. - Altenmann >talk 22:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether the term is originally Yiddish and whether the concept of a schnorrer attitude is "100% Jewish" (even when the word now also exists in other languages and the concept is known to goyim) is besides the point. What you so politely call my "speculations" only has to do with the image. Look at it. Cover the "Polnische Schnorrer" caption with your hand and look at the image. What part of what's shown there identifies the depicted individuals as schnorrers? (Or Poles for that matter?) —ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There is one shnorrer, the one with a sly look in his eyes trying to convince other guy in something. I admit without caption one may think he is, say, telling a funny joke, but that's what a caption is for. After all, how I know without caption that some picture shows, say, a Lithuanian peasant. - Altenmann >talk 15:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, so and then there was just one? Does one singular schnorrer now conform with the caption, or is this "your speculation", "your fantasy"? (If any of this sounds harsh, see above.) —ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 17:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I was answering your question "What part of what's shown there identifies the depicted individuals as schnorrers". I dont undrestand your follow-up. Please avoid sniggering: this does not contribute to mutual understanding: different cultures have differet sense of humor and irony and the likes. Please explain clearly why you thing that my explanation was unclear and I will try to clarify further. I may add that both the cartoon author and I see a shnorrer in the picture, so I think it is a reasonable illustration. I didnt pick a random cartoon and say "gee, sure this one looks like a shnorrer to me". So your irony is misplaced. - Altenmann >talk 22:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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