Talk:Ajātivāda

message: Yes I know its a stub, I still have a lot of work to do.......Tony.--Aoclery 22:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub

message: I removed the paragraph on "para-advaita", since it was build around the term "para-advaita", a phrase coined by a Wiki-editor, as stated above diff. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: Those "Four levels of awareness" are a very good illustration of the importance of providing sources: where does this list come from?!? It seems to correspond with the three-bodies-theory of Advaita, of which Siddharameshwar Maharaj (the teacher of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj) gives a fourfold version. I hope the references are correct; personally I find the list too interesting, and convincing, to simply dismiss it as "unsourced". Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:54, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four bodies and levels of truth 

message: Tony has repeatedly inserted Nasadiya Sukta, Rig Veda 10:129, with a commentary:
:"In the Vedic Nasadiya Sukta. 10:29. The first line reflects Ajativada ,
	 
:"Then even nothingness was not ,nor existence. This was multi thousand years before Buddhism,and the night sky in the Rig Veda is 8000 BCE. This sUkta reflects 'ajAtavAda', which is just a word for no creation. This is further elaborated by the word 'visRShTiH' which raises a doubt upon 'creation'. This also is again in perfect tuning with Sri Ramana's assertion; 'Where-from this 'visRShTi' came into being? And once again,'visRShTi' itself can be interpreted according to Vedik Grammar as 'chaos' or'appearances'.
Apart from forgetting the closing marks for the citation, referring to the wrong verse (10:29 instead of 10:129), and not giving a source for the interpretation (which is probably his own interpretation), the interpretation he gives is incorrect: "ajativada" does not refer to mere nothingness, or not-being-created-yet, but changelessness. So, he's not only being disruptive with his repeated insertions of non-sourced text; he's also disruptive by adding "info" that is factual incorrect. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:18, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, we know who that IP is? If he's doing it on purpose... Ogress smash! 08:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You bet we know: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Aoclery. See also Google, and especially O'Clery Report, Ajativada and wikipedia joshua jonathan and kim dent-brown . Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:10, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nasadiya Sukta. 10:29 

message: The claim "Gaudapada borrowed the concept of "ajāta" from Nagajurna's Madhyamaka philosophy" seems a presumption, especially as there is no chronological evidence for such an assertion.
On the other hand, 'Aja' (unborn) is a name of Shiva - considered as immutable Brahman. And 'immutability' and 'unborn' nature of the highest truth (brahman) is the constant theme in the Rig Veda and the Upanishads. 
The sentence in the Wikipedia article should be modified to begin as "In opinion of some scholars ------".Atanu2013 (talk) 17:37, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope; sourced info. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:01, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The claim "Gaudapada borrowed the concept of "ajāta" from Nagajurna's Madhyamaka philosophy