Talk:ILOVEYOU

message: It's apparent this article - never in the best of conditions - now needs a complete rewrite. There are several reasons for this.
1. The original article was poorly researched. The original authors had as much penchant for fact-checking and the truth as the Indian correspondents at the time (who weren't any closer to the epicentre than the people here) who were actually assigned to write short novellas rather than report news.
2. A lot of people think they know something about the worm and dive in to add something (often with extraordinarily poor writing skills) when the information is already in the article - meaning yes, this important piece (which deserves far better treatment) is riddled with redundancy (and a motley mix of the most disparate writing styles).
3. Very little is known for certain about ILOVEYOU but what is known and not known is very easy to determine. The contributors should keep this in mind.
4. Any number of apocryphal stories appeared at the time, and only a small number of them appear here. Merely because something is published doesn't mean it's true or even that the people mentioned actually exist. A lot of websites (eg The Register) really stretched journalistic ethics at the time, so desperate they were to get anything at all published. Try to locate Reomel Ramores as a simple exercise. Try as well to hunt down the "Australian lead" - because there definitely was one. There are even further leads into still further corners of the globe.
The most plausible and most generally accepted story is of course the one revolving around "Amaconda" classmates Onel and Michael, with a strong suspicion Michael unleashed Barok on Onel as an act of jealousy involving their teacher Madame Bautista. But it's not proven, none of that is proven, not even close, and it never will be. So clarify that for the reader at every point and always keep that in mind yourselves so hysteria doesn't get the upper hand again.
The world love means the strong warm feeling you have when you like somebody or something very much: Their love for each other was very strong
(Plural loves) Mnkani (talk) 08:22, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: I seemed to have got an attempted attack by this virus while browsing MySpace.... 67.46.139.157 23:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revival? 

message: Is there any English screenshot of the ILOVEYOU? I'm Brazilian, but i think that this picture, in english wikipedia, should be in English.
--Edans.sandes (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: This article badly needs citations. Yes, it has lots of information but still, it has no (if still, little) citations. This means the information here are not verifiable. If you all guys know, articles in Wikipedia without citations are "not so reliable" so please, add some.  Neffyring (talk) 12:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article needs citation

message: Ravenlasher (talk) 14:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I LOVE YOU VIRUS released in 2005?... owz.. 

message: i've removed the following two paragraphs, as they both completely unsourced, and appear to be quite vandalized: 
"A Kenyan company opened the e-mail and got some explicit content when their anti-virus software, Skeptic, detected the attachment as malware, thus automatically protecting all of their customers. They gained widespread media coverage, appearing on BBC TV and in the mainstream UK press.
The first copy intercepted by them was stopped at 00:43:26 4 May 2000 UTC, and originated from 
an email address in the Philippines, going to an email address in the UK. It is likely that the email was from one of the first few rounds of replication of the virus."
if someone can fix them and source them, go ahead and put it back in. pauli133 (talk) 14:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detection 

message: The parentesis in "Such propagation mechanism had been well known (though in IBM mainframe rather than in the MS Windows environment) and used already in the Christmas Tree EXEC of 1987" may suggest this is the first such worm for MS Win, which is missleading. I thing Happy99, PrettyPark and possibly Melissa used social engineering and scripting in similar ways, and predate ILOVEYOU. The intention of the parentesis may have been to describe "Christmas Tree EXEC", but that is well done in the linked article. The parentesis was introduced 19:40, 12 July 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ILOVEYOU&diff=next&oldid=225262874. I think the text it replaced was clearer and more accurate. Now that info exists in the preceedig and the following paragraphs. Suggestion: remove the parentesis. David A se (talk) 14:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "(Though in IBM mainframe...)" 

message: I noticed that a small paragraph was added about Upper Deck commemorating the virus as part of there 20th anniversary edition.  However no mention as to what the 20th anniversary edition was.  I edited the paragraph to be more clear.  However, I am wondering if this should be under legislation, or if there should be a new section to pop culture reference.  Or perhaps changing the "Legislation" section to something like "After Effects."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.6.65.216 (talk) 20:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've gone ahead and made some changes to improve that section.  However it leaves a larger issue, which is whether a card in a trading set is really notable enough to merit inclusion on Wikipedia.  Feel free to delete the paragraph entirely if anyone agrees it's not really worth knowing.  - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legislation and Upper Deck 

message: I removed the claim that ILOVEYOU infected 10% of the world's computers in one day.  The zdnet source does not directly support that proposition, and the parenthetical about one-fifth of the world's HouseCall users being infected in that time does not really clarify matters, as the source does not specify how many HouseCall users there were at that point in time.  I kept the source in because it supports the general proposition of worldwide spread within one day. GrayRoset (talk) 13:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effects 

message: This article desperately needs cleanup. One significant issue is that the name of one of the suspects is highly questionable. This article used to refer to Reomel Lamores and Onel de Guzman. Through a series of edits, they later became Mr. Ramones and Mr. de Guzman. On February 6, 2009, User:TheOneWithTheDeerOnIt changed the name Reomel Lamores to Reomel Ramones without any explanation for the change. I don't know if this was a correction or a harmful edit. This change seems to have gone unnoticed by other editors for over a year. According to The Register, the name is Reomel Lamores, not Reomel Ramones. Are there any conflicting sources? --JHP (talk) 08:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've revived the ref; it's indeed Ramores. --DanielPharos (talk) 19:10, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup and fact-checking desperately needed 

message: There was definitely a Macintosh virus (and frankly the only very successful virus written for Macs) a year or 2 before. Given that I graduated in 2008, I would have been in 3rd and 4th Grades from 1998 to 2000. At the time our elementary schools were Macintosh and our high school was Windows, although it's now the other way around with all the computer upgrades after I graduated. Anyway, there was definitely a Macintosh virus back then, and I was in elementary school at the time our teachers told us about it and warned us not to open a folder with a heart superimposed on part of the folder icon, on any of the school computers. 
This virus did not rely on email: It entered in such a way that it appeared on the computer's offline desktop, even if the Browser was entirely logged out and not actually running when the virus reached that particular computer unit. (As I mentioned, it appeared as an unlabeled folder with a little heart on it.) As long as nobody double-clicked on that folder, however, the virus would remain inactive. 
They called it the "Love Bug," and as I recall it was discovered around Valentine's Day that year. Personally, I never saw the heart-emblazened folder they told us about, but apparently a number of Macintoshes around the world had already crashed when someone had opened that folder, even before a few of the school computers (apparently) had acquired it. 
My question for the Article: Where might I find non-anecdotal sources that such a Macintosh virus existed (IE any academic databases on computer history)? The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earlier Macintosh virus 

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message: The *ILOVEYOU* computer virus, sometimes called *Love bug* or *Love letter for you*, is a computer worm that effected over 10 million computers on and after 5th/May/2000. It started spreading around as an email with the subject line *ILOVEYOU*  and the attachment *LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.Vbs* At the time computers hid the end of a extension(VBS, a type of interpreted file) by default because it is an extension for a file type that Windows knows, leading unwitting users to think it was a normal text file. 2A01:9700:11B4:5B00:1DCC:31DC:4A69:FAA5 (talk) 14:46, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the *ILOVEYOU* computer virus 

message: Under the Investigation section, it says the criminal case was opened on 5 May 1999, but the worm was released on 5 May 2000. The wayback of the citation confirms the same. 
Sorry if this isn't the right place; it's locked for editing and this seems better than saying nothing. 65.129.92.11 (talk) 02:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Date of investigation