Talk:Balinese script

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message: The symbols in Unicode part look more javanese to me than balinese. Kembangraps (talk) 12:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Symbols in Unicode

message: On OS X using Google Chrome the Unicode character representations all show as empty squares. I do not have the font Aksara Bali installed on my computer, and on OS X Arial Unicode appears to go by the name Arial Unicode MS. Still, I changed the font using web inspector to Arial Unicode MS and the character missing squares persist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrujhon (talk • contribs) 10:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicode representations 

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message: Paragraph 2:  "Musical notation uses letter-like symbols and diacritical marks in order to indicate metrical information."
The Balinese letter-like symbols (for 'i', 'o', 'e', 'u', 'a', or "(n)ding", "(n)dong", "(n)deng", "(n)dung", "(n)dang", do not represent metrical (or rhythmic) information.  They represent pitch information.  For example, the five listed above represent approximately C#, D, E, G#, A, for some ensembles in some villages, or other similar pitches for other ensembles or other villages.  The only diacritical mark is a dot above the letter, indicating playing one octave higher.  Rhythmic information is represented -- if at all! -- by the physical spacing on the page: the notes are written consecutively right next to each other, but with a dot, or even a space, representing a momentary silence.  (There is also an underline, indicating to play the underlined notes twice as fast.)  "Metrical" information is not represented at all, because "meter" refers to what Western musicians conceptualize as an understood underlying division of the music into repetitions of 3 beats, or of 4 beats, or whatever -- the "counts" that a Western musician would use.  Balinese notation does not indicate this, except possibly by a symbol for the gong, which plays on every 4th beat, or every 8th beat, or even every 16th or 32nd beat in very long sections.  I suppose you could call this "diacritical marks indicating metrical information", but that's really stretching it.  Anyway, the main point is that the notation represents pitch, not rhythm or meter.
(I'm not an editor, so I hope someone who is will simply change "metrical information" to "pitch information".)
Dudley Brooks (talk) 21:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  DRMcCreedy (talk) 01:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characteristics 

message: I hope no-one will find my comments about Bali Galang font inappropriate, even if they are a bit OR. I have no personal connection with the author, I just thought people would appreciate knowing about it. It's the first Unicode font I've found that displays Balinese correctly. Personally, I can't believe that the Noto fonts are so crappy, given the amount of money Google spent developing them. The work-around for the defective <o> in Bali Galang is one I worked out, so it's OR, but any of you can verify it easily enough. It works beautifully, and should be convertible into other fonts. The problem is that those fonts will not convert properly into Bali Galang. (Actually, I think the <o> in the Latin code range of Bali Galang works properly, so maybe that's something that will be fixed.) I have not found work-arounds for the flaws in the other fonts, though it would be good to know if there are any. — kwami (talk) 03:51, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see an issue here although I did change the wording.  Displaying the Balinese glyphs for Latin letters is a handy feature but that makes the font non compliant with Unicode because it's redefining the Latin ranges. DRMcCreedy (talk) 04:43, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bali Galang font