Talk:Queer as Folk (American TV series)

message: Discussion about the title of this article and its recent change can be found at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Changing article titles from XXXXX (US) to XXXXX (United States). Feel free to contribute. -- hike395 16:31, 27 February 2005 (UTC)
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message: Why do people CONTINUE to revert the sentence about the OPENING AND CLOSING STATEMENT that used to air on Queer As Folk before and after the show that stated "While Queer as Folk depicts the lives of a group of gay friends, it does not represent the gay community".  I'm thinking some of you are reverting that statement because you own the DVDs.  The fact does remain however, that this statement did open and close the show for the first three seasons and then was omitted in the last two.  Please justify your revert thanks  --Julien Deveraux 00:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beginning and End of the Show Statement 

message: I put that box there.. I a lot of other TV shows have them.. It needs to be edited, I thought an image would make the page more engaging... but feel free to delete it... - SweetSurrender — Preceding unsigned comment added by SweetSurrender (talk • contribs) 23:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: That box

message: Hello:
A great deal of the changes to this page have been made by myself, particularly the newer information about the production as I am a former member of the production itself and worked on the show for four of its five seasons.
On a technical note, I don't understand why the episode table is being duplicated each time I try to delete it since I intended to add to it only once. If someone knows how to delete the duplicate table, please do so...the episode table is intended to be there only once. I assure everyone here that my editing of this article is to make it more factural since I have first-hand knowledge of this series. Any "vandalism" that someone mentioned was to my own text. My only mistake I guess was not doing it with an actual account which I have now done. Thanks and please understand I only want to make the information about this show as accurate as possible.
TorontoDrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorontoDrew (talk • contribs) 13:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode table

message: I have added some additional production information to the article that somehow was deleted previously when I posted it originally anonomously. I am reposting it under my signed name. The information is accurate as I was part of the production as a background actor (extra) for the last four seasons the show was on the air. --Drew 14:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions to the article by TorontoDrew and verification for those additions 

message: Queer as Folk, as produced for Showtime, was a American/Canadian co-production...these are the facts to support this:
American partners:  Showtime Networks Inc., CowLip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions and Warner Bros. Inc.
Canadian partners:  Temple Street Productions, Queer as Folk Productions Ltd. and its four successor companies
According to the information I am aware of, Showtime Network has the ownership rights and distribution rights in the U.S. and ownership rights world-wide EXCEPT for Canada. Temple Street Productions is the legal owner of the show in Canada and controller of distributions rights. Warner Bros. Inc. has the distribution rights to the series outside the U.S. and Canada.
--Drew 22:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification of American/Canadian co-production 

message: There needs to be a better descrition of the characters. There's one of Bryan but it leads into a mentioning of just about all of the characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.217.6.9 (talk) 01:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, I agree with you that all of the cast members should be listed here. I was a member of the background cast of the series from seasons two to five and worked with everyone of them so knowing how important their contributions were to the series, they all deserve to be acknowledged. --Drew 17:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: characters

message: I'm referring to a reference that was removed in this article on "people of color" in favor of "non-white."  If you go to the "people of color" article it says that the reason it is offensive is because of the us-vs-them attitude with the focus being whites and non-whites.  If you are going to use the term non-white you might as well use the term "people of color".  The phrase DOES NOT just refer to african americans, it refers to all non-caucasion peoples.--Torourkeus 20:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[Colored#People of color|People of Color]]" 

message: Obviously, the link toward David Wellington is not the good one (director vs. writer, born in Canada vs. in Pittsburgh).
I neither know anything to say about the QAF David Wellington, nor how to make a disambiguation page, nor if it'd be very appropriate toward an empty page.
If someone could do anything about that ?
Otherwise I might come back in a week or so and create a very minimalistic page about the guy, but I really don't feel like I'm the good one for I don't heard of him before noticing this mistaking link ....
romdam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.84.98 (talk) 13:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong David Wellington 

message: There seems to be very little mention of the soundtrack of the series (the music was very important to the show) or the CDs of music from the show or the "Babylon" tour which I think is going on it's 3rd or 4th year. Would be worthy of it's own section. Benjiboi 11:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music of QAF, Babylon tour 

message: I have reverted the article back to indicating that Showcase in Canada was running Queer as Folk in a 1 hour 10 minute time block by the time the series was in its last season because of so many advertisers. Someone had changed it to 90 minutes which is incorrect. I can attest to the broadcast schedule since I watched every single broadcast Showcase ever ran of the series. The extension of the series time block from 60 minutes began in the third season and varied between 65 and 70 minutes per episode with a few exceptions, one of which was the series finale which ran 75 minutes on Showcase with commercials. At no time did Showcase ever broadcast the series over a 90 minute time block during its entire 5 season run with the sole exception of the pilot episode which (in it's Canadian version) ran 2 1/2 hours with commercials and which was broadcast only once. When the pilot was re-aired later in 2001, it was split into three episodes which ran in 60 minute time blocks. Drew 04:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Showcase Broacast Schedule For The Series 

message: The final scene was more like a fantasy than reality. Where were their indications that it was going to be re-built?
Joemaza 00:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The final scene 

message: I disagree with Melsaran's edit.  What is controversial or potentially libelous about the actors' sexual orientations?  I think the series teaches us to relax about this entirely, so I will restore the valuable background info.  Roman Czyborra 11:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Melsaran has also been involved with other potentially-homophobic actions across Wikipedia, and has since been banned. - Cyborg Ninja 15:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The actors' sexual orientations 

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message: So I notice this morning that an anon IP removed Houston from the list of cities with a gay area of the city.  Since I've put this page on my watchlist, I've seen many changes this particular sentence adding and deleting names of towns.  There appears to never be any particular reason to add or delete a town.  I've never reverted or changed the section because I don't think I am fit to solely determine what cities belong on this list.  
So, I'm wondering if there should be a discussion on what cities belong on this list so that that sentence can stay stable.  (IOW, any edits made to the list following the discussion can be reverted back to the agreed upon list.)  We can think of this as a Request for Discussion without making it an official RfD.  
My Thoughts:
* A list of cities, regardless of the size of their gay communities, does not add to the article.
* A selected group of cities, which are truely "urbane" and "sophisticated" (as mentioned previously in the sentence before the list of cities) and are generally known by most people is appropriate.
* San Francisco should be on the 'list' since it is known throughout the world as a gay center of activity (whether it is or not).
* I'm unsure that Los Angeles, Chicago, or Atlanta should be on the list.  I'll admit, I'm not well traveled to these cities, but I can't recall hearing of a significant gay area of these towns (though someone might argue West LA & Hollywood).
* Miami and Montreal may be alright, I have no opinion one way or another.
* Houston and Dallas both have gay areas and been on versions of this 'list,' but I'm not sure how well known they are outside of their respective areas (or Texas).
I'm interested to hear what others believe.  So, please chime in with your thoughts. --TreyGeek (talk) 12:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see what a list of cities has to do with the actual topic of the article myself.  Sounds rather off-topic.Doniago (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can it being useful to those who have never seen the show.  We can describe QaF's version of Pittsburgh in a way that can be related to real life cities.  To simply say the show is set in Pittsburgh may be misleading as what is depicted may not reflect what is really in the city.  --TreyGeek (talk) 16:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about "a fictionalized Pittsburgh"?  (he said a bit tongue-in-cheek)Doniago (talk) 15:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms  & List of Cities. 

message: Since when and why people started editing the discussion as well and deleting the comments of others? I wrote my fantasy of QAF in 2009 and some SOB has deleted that. Can I ask why?
Realton (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Since when and why?

message: Just a suggestion if gay/homosexual could be taken out of the first sentence, it looks excessive. (ex: The series follows the lives of five gay men living in Pittsburgh). There was recently a dispute going on with an IP and a few other users between gay/homosexual. Versus22 talk  17:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe gay can or should be taken out.  After all, the show's premise is about 5 gay men, not just 5 men.  The fact they are gay (as is most of the characters on the show beyond the 5 featured ones) is a significant part of the series.  --TreyGeek (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Versus22, lets take it out of the first sentence but leave it in the second paragraph? - Kingpin13 (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. It seems kind of fundamental to the premise of the show to me, unless (I haven't seen all episodes) it's disputed that they're gay? Gonzonoir (talk) 17:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Treygeek and Gonzonoir. This is a show about gay men, not a show about men who happen to be gay. Maybe we'll live in a post-gay world someday where shows aren't built on this premise, but we don't yet, and this show is built on this premise. The clue's in the title. garik (talk) 17:55, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read a mail-order catalog of gay DVD titles yesterday, and in their advertisements for Queer As Folk the producers were specifically describing the television series as a show about the lives of gay characters, and their friends. The product packaging and all promotional materials were quite positively using the terms gay and queer as primary descriptions of the stories, the characters, and the settings. ~Teledildonix314~Talk~4-1-1~ 18:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be fundamental to the set-up of the show. I don't understand the reason for wanting to remove it. Aleta Sing 18:40, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are we really having this discussion? The show's title is QUEER as Folk.. as in GAY as Folk. The 5 men are GAY. That's the show's premise and plot. Leave it where it is. - ✰ALLST☆R✰ echo 04:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - the premise really is that they are gay. All it's marketing and controversy (and title!) emphesise this. It is far more important that they are gay than they that they are men for example. (why are the 2 lesbians not in that sentence anyway? They get their own scenes, are in almost every episode, etc)[Ah, sneaky semi-colons!]. So it should be prominently featured, with the word gay staying where it is.YobMod 17:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Show premise 

message: Does anyone else think that it's weird that Brian's assistant at his work has an bio but there isn't one for George, Leda, or Chris Hobbs?
Anyone else think we should fix this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.170.113 (talk) 19:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters :/ 

message: I've removed this section and relocated other unsourced material here. The article has been tagged for needing sourcing for over 2 years and there's no reason to use a rather cruft'y table for the DVD releases when prose would suffice. The DVD release table was not playing nicely with the collapse template, so I've linked to the original material. Doniago (talk) 13:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD releases and other unsourced material

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message: The statement that the internal shots were done in Toronto is a mis-statement. Anyone who knows the city at all will recognize that its outdoors also feature largely in the series, especially the venues of Church Street and the Annex. 24.85.238.166 (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong about Toronto for internal shots only 

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message: I've separated that part of the article into its own section, and completely rewritten it, as it contained a lot of misinformation, some of which were cleared up as the years went by.
Some of the problems fixed:
#The part where the actors were unwilling to talk about their sexuality during the show's run: fixed that to indicate that at the very least, it was Harold and Lowell who were not willing to talk about it.
#Added section where the cast's sexuality was revealed on a Larry King Live show in 2002, and how Gant was actually identified as straight on the show, but later came out.
#Added portion talking about the cast discussing their sexuality in the years since QAF ended.
Kiteinthewind   Leave a message! 18:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast's sexual orientation 

message: Title should be moved to Queer as Folk (2000 TV series) as there will soon be two American versions of the show. One released in 2000 and the other in 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannybaby1234 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2022 series