Talk:Media franchise

message: Please add mobile gaming to the Silent Hill template. Orphan and Last Escape are not part of the main plot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.160.40 (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, at least in part, and I may add some other bits to it as well.  I did already create a redirect from television franchise.  FrozenPurpleCube 14:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Creation

message: The following quote regarding Playboy magazine doesn't seem to be NPOV
I question if the word 'pornographic' is correct in describing this magazine. Request discussion leading to Wikipedia:Consensus. Possibly, the combined term softcore porn might be a more accurate term. --TGC55 (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV - ''Playboy''? 

message: I was pointed out to this article on IRC, as someone wanted to translate it into French. Now, I have some idea what a media franchise is, this article isn't that clear, especially for someone who might not be familiar with the concepts. I added this to my to-do list, but I've got another article that's in need of a lot more help.
help both but do the french minecraft they need that.Bold textTrue kerfoot I like your writing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.232.152.22 (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Cleanup 

message: I know it's been in common usage, but a franchise is when you operate a business on behalf of another business, such as owning your own fast food restaurant. When more than one movie comes out based on the same theme, such as Batman or Star Wars, it is a series, not a franchise. A "Star Wars franchise" would be if other people were making their own authorized films using the name, themes, and characters for George Lucas, but not Lucas himself. Individual McDonalds restaurants, or local network television stations, i.e., an ABC affiliate, are a franchise. Unfortunately the media itself has been dumbing down the English language for a while now, and one writer just copies what they hear, even if it is incorrect usage. If people are having a hard time grasping the subject in non English speaking countries, it's because it's not the correct usage of the word.
Franchise: (noun)
"an authorization granted by a government or company to an individual or group enabling them to carry out specified commercial activities, e.g., providing a broadcasting service or acting as an agent for a company's products."
DavidRavenMoon (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Usage 

message: I very much agree that it's incorrect to call things like "Star Wars" franchises. Some of the things on the list are borderline, like the Bond films, but the majority of them aren't franchises at all.
However, there are film series which are franchises. For instance, a studio or production company made Horror Film I, II and III themselves but after that, they sold the rights to just about anyone who had enough money and basic qualifications to make IV and after. In that case, they really were acting exactly the way McDonalds acts when they let anyone with a certain amount of money open a McDonalds.
So I think this page should have a prominent note explaining that the usage is wrong, but also giving an example of a series which was turned into a franchise, to show how the error came about and the word became applied to any series of films.
hostile17 (talk) 23:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Usage - I Agree/Historical Note 

message: "Recently, some parts of the film industry have erroneously begun to use the word "franchise" as a synonym for a film series. However, unless the owners of the copyright to a film series also have trademarked the names of characters and other elements in the films, and are licensing the use of these to others, a film series is not a franchise, as the act of such licensing is what constitutes franchising.Reference for Business: Franchising Retrieved 2012-03-25Online Etymology Dictionary: "franchise" Retrieved 2012-03-25"
Wow! That's a very POV paragraph. It also ignores the fact that many of the film series that have been called franchises (such as Star Trek, Batman, etc) are licensed adaptations of concepts from outside of film with the entire concept being the "franchise". That is, that the "Batman franchise" consists of the comic books, television shows, toys, trading cards, etc as well as the films. --Khajidha (talk) 15:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  My cut 

message: There's no need to give it a separate page. It's just about how the Japanese companies run media franchise under the Japanese Engrish term. (Perhaps, one may create a new section explaining how the franchises are ran in country-by-country cases?) JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 16:22, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose There is a need to give it a separate page. It is about how Japanese companies invented the concept and successfully exploit it for 50 years now. There are whole books written about it. You are welcome to add a section is you find  reliable sources which say that mediamikkusu is nothing special and known under some silly hollywood+siliconvalley buzzword concocted by americans who think they invented all civilization staring from forke and spoone. -M.Altenmann >t 05:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

text: Oppose The article's existence is completely justified.--FollowTheSigns (talk) 05:40, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Media mix]] into this article 

message: Since the title of this page is incorrect ad these entities aren't franchises like KFC are, why don't we incorporate the information from this page into Media Mix instead of the other way around?--143.167.25.73 (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge this with Media Mix 

message: For reference, here is the unedited quote used in , directly from the source as represented in Google Books:
—151.132.206.250 (talk) 19:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: [same user as above] The quote as used is missing a word here and there, but is there any real need to quote such a long passage, rather than do something like this? I don’t think  there’s anything here that stretches credulity to anywhere near the point that it demands immediate material proof. —96.8.24.95 (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Videogames and Education'' quote 

message: I propose merging media mix to multimedia franchise. Media mix is currently a stub with relatively little reliable sources and is a sub-category of multimedia franchise. From what I can see, "media mix" is a marketing strategy in Japan to use all sorts of business ventures to promote a work, such as creating different adaptations (anime, manga, live-action), or creating idol groups for the series, which is similar to what a multimedia franchise in itself. lullabying (talk) 05:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: support Its basically the same thing but with a different name.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 05:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Oppose So, I actually just finished reading Marc Steinberg's book on the media mix and was planning to expand on the article. Steinberg clearly separates the media mix from other kinds of media franchises (for example, with the birth of the media mix in Astro Boy, Tezuka was inspired by Disney's merchandising practices but went beyond that model); additionally, media mix has its own, lengthy institutional history in Japan. There may be relatively few sources in that article currently, but there is a large variety of scholarship on the media mix (ex. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) that can be used. Now, certainly, media mix is a subcategory of multimedia franchises, but I think there is enough information to merit a separate article for how multimedia franchises have manifested in Japan specifically (i.e. the media mix). Sandtalon (talk) 11:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you able to improve the article at the moment? Furthermore, I'm not convinced at the distinction between Western franchising and media mix in Japan. lullabying (talk) 18:17, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

text: support - Per user Blue Pumpkin Pie. Maybe there could be a mention of what the term is called in Japan, but both terms to me, seem to essentially be the same, just different terminology. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 08:58, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

text: Klbrain (talk) 07:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I just noticed that User:FMM-1992 moved this article without warning from "media franchise" to "multimedia franchise" on 11 June 2020, with the following rationale: "More common, accepted, and better term, even its list has uses this term: List of multimedia franchises."
That makes no sense at all because as anyone who is familiar with media franchises is well aware, "media franchise" is by far the more common term.  Google Ngram Viewer confirms this.  It's not even close. Anyone who regularly reads EW, THR, Variety, Deadline, and TheWrap regularly would already know this.  (I scan the headlines in all five at least once per week.)
As a matter of common courtesy, editors need to be wary of the risks of unknown unknowns (as Donald Rumsfeld famously put it) when operating outside of their areas of expertise and to not make unnecessary work for other editors with profoundly incorrect edits and moves. 
Any objections before I fix this mess by moving this back to the correct title? --Coolcaesar (talk) 03:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello user:Coolcaesar, thanks for your attention and notifying me. I checked d:Q196600#sitelinks-wikipedia that shows this is the only Latin script article that has "multi" in its title and I realized now that not every media franchise is multimedia, because, a multimedia franchise has installments exist in multiple forms of media, such as book, comic, film, TV series, and video game; but not all media franchises have such outputs, so I have no objection against this move. Thank you and good luck. -- FMM-1992 (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposing to move this back to media franchise 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Page moved on yesterday: diff. (non-admin closure)  FMM-1992 (talk) 08:52, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Multimedia franchise →  – This article was improperly moved without warning by User:FMM-1992 from Media franchise to Multimedia franchise on 11 June 2020 with the following rationale: "More common, accepted, and better term, even its list has uses this term: List of multimedia franchises." However, as anyone who follows the entertainment industry closely and is familiar with media franchises is well aware, "media franchise" is by far the more common term.  Google Ngram Viewer confirms this.  It's not even close.  I have already raised the issue on the talk page for the article and User:FMM-1992 has graciously conceded the error.  Therefore, I propose to move this article back to the correct title. Coolcaesar (talk) 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 October 2021 

message: — Assignment last updated by Xinyue Hu (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: CMN2160B

message: :… on websites like tumblr, Reddit and the self-titled "wiki" site, Fandom.
What does that mean?  Is Fandom a non-wiki pretending to be a wiki? —Tamfang (talk) 04:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  self-titled website 

message: Why is Marilyn Monroe listed in the middle of a collection of fictional characters?  (If this were Twitter, I'd say: Wrong answers only.) —Tamfang (talk) 16:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:49, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marilyn Monroe