Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (years in titles)/Archive 01

message: :Has the poll result decided anything about the conventions? I have still been reading articles of all four formats of numbered titles. 大将军, 都督中外诸军事 (talk) 01:34, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Anyone here?

message: Being pointed here from here [the village pump - but now moved to the section above this one], my own view follows the comments above about logical ordering by importance and how a user might guess the title of an article. (where) (what) (when) as the order would therefore make the most sense (with each part optional if neccessary) and with no punctuation. This would give Athens Summer Olympics 2004, UK General Election 2005, etc. giving the major to minor order of importance of the elements and also allowing any list to fall into the natural sort order (as a user/editor will more frequently want to compare the same event across a range of years rather than a range of events within a single year. The use of prepositions or punctuation complicates matters  as they are unlikely to be guessed and usage differs between countries/regions/languages. I'm therefore an option 2(a) as I would much rather no comma. --VampWillow 16:48, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Must confess that when I enthusiastically chipped in on the VP discussion I was unaware of all the earlier discussion on this matter. My preference is 2004 Panamanian presidential election simply because it's the one most likely not to need pipe-linking in an article text. While the comma is clumsy, but it does appear to be the default format – it sounds like a lot of work drumming up consensus and moving articles for pretty minor change in titling format. Dunno. Anyone else? –Hajor 13:35, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we should all just vote in the existing poll and see if a new consensus can be reached. - SimonP 13:57, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
(where) (what) (when) is ungrammatical. "UK General Election" is not a adjective of "2005" but the other way around. It is YEAR PLACE OFFICE election that is the most preferable option. However, breaking consistency is a bad idea. I'm all for it if we can get someone with a bot to move all these gazillion articles and fix all the links leading there. Otherwise, it's time to give up. --Jiang 01:39, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: I don't feel it is grammar that should be the issue here, it should be logical searching/locating of content. In my local case I would be interested in the elections of a particular type (and by implication they all happen in one country); the year of such election is the minor key, not the major key. --VampWillow 18:23, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes it difficult to link articles in sentences without creating a pipe link. We can always have redirects. I don't see how rearranging the content in a title makes it easier to find. All that matters is that it's in the title... --Jiang 01:25, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: There was a "volunteer to move all U.S. presidential election articles and fix any broken redirects" on the VP, but he neglected to sign his post... –Hajor 02:12, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Years and Commas in Titles revisited