Talk:Post-Angkor period

message: The term Post-Angkor period seems more fitting IMO. --Dara (talk) 20:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously. I don't think this term is correct. I agree, this is the time when Cambodia was really in a slump, but I usually hear it referred to as Post-Angkor period. And I think Chaktomuk period in Khmer. This really needs to be figured out before other languages start creating articles based on this article's name which not be correct or accepted by historians on Cambodian history. The Thai Wikipedia already has an article based on the the "dark ages" ephithet. Im not sure about the Vietnamese name, but it looks like it might be a translation based on this Wikipedia article's name too. --Dara (talk) 09:28, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be moved to Post-Angkor period? 

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A Cambodian Prince was convinced to convert to Islam by Malay merchants in 1642, and took control of the country. He and the Malays declared a 
jihad and initiated a massacre in Phnom Penh of Dutch Christians, and in 1643-1644 waged a war against the Dutch in the Mekong delta which the Cambodians won. The Dutch were defeated and driven out.
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA157&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=o_i4Uv6xItLLsQSmsILoDg&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=1643%20dutch%20vietnam&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=l8TVTCJSJKcC&pg=PA253&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_PG4UoCxI8jRsATg5oHgBg&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=1643%20dutch%20vietnam&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=VOtzHnVLZo4C&pg=PA27&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_PG4UoCxI8jRsATg5oHgBg&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=1643%20dutch%20vietnam&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=SRfg1yx_4F0C&pg=PA45&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_PG4UoCxI8jRsATg5oHgBg&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1643%20dutch%20vietnam&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=mINZclfikIsC&pg=PA447&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_PG4UoCxI8jRsATg5oHgBg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAw
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http://books.google.com/books?ei=JPm4Uq3yLcinsQScg4GgCw&id=N3ZuAAAAMAAJ&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=1643+massacred
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http://books.google.com/books?ei=JPm4Uq3yLcinsQScg4GgCw&id=PRxBAAAAMAAJ&dq=1643+dutch+vietnam&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=1643+massacred
Rajmaan (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cambodian victory against the Dutch 

message: Hi! Although the article is written with remarkable eloquence, it focuses very much on episodes and results. There are plenty of sources - which should be in here, in order to paint the whole picture. It is not very enlightening, when 50% of all existing sources refer to a single event (Killing of the Dutch). This can hardly be a defining moment of the Dark Ages. Additionally, most historians are very careful with the evaluation of facts, e.g. the Siamese conquest and, in particular - their consequences.
Wikirictor (talk) 14:41, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is nobody bothered providing sources and footnotes for all the other information in the article not that the sources in the article are focused on the war against the Dutch. I have sources for the 1597 event where the Malays defeated the Spanish expedition and I will be putting it in the article in the future when I have time.Rajmaan (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources and focus

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if nothing happens, i am going to go through the rest as well.
ATBWikirictor (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't panic

message: most published texts on history remain unaltered since the 1960ies and reflect the historiography of the Georges Coedes era. There is no doubt Georges Coedes is one of the greatest historians for Cambodia, who has provided lots of pioneering work and lead the way of methodology.... But since his retirement many new sources, in particular great numbers of Khmer inscriptions have become available. Hardly noticed, entire sections reviewed in the 70ies and 80ies, them replaced in turn in the 90ies and so on... However, as debate among historians progresses normally, archaeology and geo-dating getting more and more important, publishers of second and third grade resources stubbornly copy the (in some cases 60 years) old texts.
Wikirictor (talk) 05:28, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
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