Talk:Laser tag/Archive 1

message: I have laid out this discussion and its problems at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Laser Tag and WP:EL. If anyone wants to comment, please do. Cheers! -- moe.RON talk | done | doing 18:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reporting this incident to [[WP:ANI]]

message: This page is getting worse.
Before you play the link shuffle and move your links to the top of the list, please consider the senisibility of posting links alphabetically (ignoring the word "the"). This is a fair system that will keep everyone from constantly jostling their links. NOTE, this puts most of the links that I am associated with at the middle or bottom of the list, but I am still trying to work with this. I realize that the likely offenders probably don't even read the talk page, but I thougth I'd try.
Jebock 14:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alphabetize Links, Please

message: Why isn`t  included. One of Europe biggestlasertag systems! Can some one please include this system?
:You took the time to edit the talk page - why not just add it yourself? There is an edit button at the title of each section, and also at the top of the page. Mushintalk 13:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lasermaxx

message: What do the outdoor indications mean by many of the laser tag systems?  Some of them, are unable to played outdoors.  I removed them because they are misleading (for example, there isn't any outdoor Q-Zar and I know that LaserQuest, due to the way the software works, is unable to be played outdoors).
ParticleMan 00:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is basically correct, but most Lasertag systems communicate over infrared, and many also communicate via other means. The communication capabilities of the system are a limiting factor and affect its gameplay. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Outdoor

message: This article needs revision to address the outdoor version of the sport, e.g. the Battlefield Sports style of commercial system, the MilesTag non-commercial/public-doman DIY system, etc. 
Outdoor laser tag equipment use high power IR LEDs, not IR lasers. They're usually run well above their rated current, but at a suitably low duty cycle, and collimated through a 20-40 mm lens. It gives you remarkably long range, even in direct sunlight. Not using a laser also means that you can use magnified scope optics with no safety problems. 
It'd also be worth mentioning that the DIY scene has a couple of competing data protocols, with milestag and worlds of wonder variants being the main ones. MT for versatility, WoW for historical reasons.  
And yes, IR definitely means 'infrared'. 
Check out...
http://www.laserforums.com/
http://www.lasertagparts.com/mtdesign.htm
http://www.battlefieldsports.com/
:Actually, many indoor systems use IR as well.  Q-Zar uses an IR LED and a lens to focus it in a fairly straight line.  It has a laser, but that's just for visible effect and show.
ParticleMan 15:32, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdoor? 

message: Am I the only one who prefers to see two words? I think it's supposed to be like that, but feel free to bitch at me if I'm an idiot.
I agree.  Every time I've seen Laser Tag, it's been two words. ParticleMan 23:29, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laser Tag/Lasertag

message: Same game, two articles. Any views? -Icecradle 20:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, lasers used in indoor tag are almost always eye-safe otherwise protective equipment would have to be worn. The lasers are usually low-power and are also usually pulsed to reduce risk. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with the fact that the problem with this article is that it merges too much together (the "Types of Games" section and to a lesser extent "Lasertag Slang").  ParticleMan 04:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Laser tag vs LaserQuest

message: This section contained quantitative statistics about how the market for Laser Tag is made up. These were not supported anywhere with sources, so have been removed. Information cannot be stated as fact without citing references. Also removed an anticipation of how the outdoor market will mature, as wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Thanks. Mushintalk 12:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits of section [[Laser_tag#Types of players|Types of players]] 

message: The tables are actually difficult to read and have too much info in them. I believe it is better to keep this page on general info about laser tag. Then a page on each of the manufacturers can have a page individually. Zev-va
Is there a rule against tables, at least when abused so?
Whatever
:I'm to blame for the tables - I'm not sure if I like them either, however at the time it seemed like a reasonable way to organize the information. I'd prefer an article on each system, but I don't think we are going to have enough content for that. The tables were put in to replace a list of links to system manufacturers - the list was getting to the point where it felt more like a web directory and was removed by another wikipedian - I felt that there are enough distinctions between the various systems to make some mention and comparison of the systems out there worthwhile, and the table was what I came up with. I'm open to better ideas that will present the same (or expanded) information so long as they do so logically and consistantly. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:29, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the tables are ugly. I've got a lot more information to squeeze in, and theres no good way to do it. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables , Ugly Ugly Tables 

message: Finally killing this @#$Q@ thing, but I need to move it here so as not to lose info that could be used to write articles. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ugly Table 

message: Is the "club player" term specific to LaserQuest or do other systems use it as well? I've only heard it in conjunction with LaserQuest, but then again, my Lasertag experience is limited to Zone, Actual Reality, Lasertron, Veqtor, and Laserrunner so far.  - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 07:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking that "member" and "regular" are more generic terms. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 18:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club Player vs Member