Talk:Warez

message: Though "Cracking" is defined as the process of analysis and analytic reverse or operative modeling of a system, typically an encryption or cypher, (where "hacking" is the modification resulting from such an understanding), the historical definitions, especially with regard to the economic or intellectual motivations, relate on legal basis to the derogatory terms "Cracker" as Cracker_(pejorative) and Pirate with significant adverse legal implications.
The American Department of Justice Civil Rights Divisionhttp://usdoj.gov/crt and United States Secret Servicehttp://cybercrime.gov have determined that the reference to individuals related to the non-commerce distribution or economically unbiased dissemination of intellectual materials as "Software cracker" (Cracker_(pejorative)) or "pirate" is both bigotry and a slanderous reference to these individuals. These references, especially published or in court filings, to the distribution of warez, linguistically derived from "Wares" or marketable items typically pedaled by lesser merchants, has been found not only to be derogatory to the individuals, especially in the American Federal Court cases, but also a higher crime than the majority of claimed acts of economic sabotage purported by the various institutions or large corporations with distinctly commercial motivations.
68.9.69.82 (talk) 22:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Policy Implications

message: I believe there should be a section talking about how nowadays most sites that are returned when someone tries to search for warez on Google will attempt to install malicious programs, or provide bogus files, or be paid sites (or is it not really like that?)--TiagoTiago (talk) 02:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's more of a subject of spyware.  The warez component has very little to do with it, as it is common across porn, warez, video game, and gambling sites.Rurik (talk) 16:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  warez sites, Google and malware 

message: This page is the destination for the redirected word "Phaze".  The word isn't contained in the body of the article that I could find, and I was actually looking for a discussion of the Piers Anthony science fiction/fantasy world of Phaze, from the book "Blue Adept". 
Thank You.  71.216.157.222 (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The page that needs to be edited is the actual Phaze article.  I've changed the redirection to Blue Adept so it should be fixed.  In the future, you can see and edit the redirection by following it, and then clicking in the line below the article's title that states "(Redirected from XYZ)". Rurik (talk) 02:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phaze 

message: "It indexes the warez & gives links to the pages where the download links are available. These often contain massive advertisement and may contain spyware and trojans. They often just infinitely redirect users to other sites." That sentence is messed up!
:Good eye, that's an atrocious section that has been there since 2007.  I just reworded it and I hope it cleared it up. Rurik (talk) 01:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar error? 

message: There's currently no pronunciation listed. I've always pronounced it "Where - ez", but it seems likely that some people would pronounce it the same as "wears".Korin43 (talk) 00:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There used to be one, but it was removed awhile back.  I see no reason not to put it back in, and will do so now. Rurik (talk) 21:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...how the hell is Juárez pronounced in English, anyway? WTF. I'm confused. D: Paperxcrip (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Two syllables: war - ez Rurik (talk) 04:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Can't we come up with a better example than "Juárez".? --87.57.56.236 (talk) 00:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To indicate that "Juárez" is a mispronunciation is dubious -- the term originated on BBS, IRC, usenet, and other text-only forums.  I think it's fair to say that several pronunciations exist, but that one is the 'correct' pronunciation of this neologism can't be proven.Billyphuz (talk) 14:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the correct pronunciation should be officially where ez.  Its what I thought when I first saw it, and I am never wrong.  Plus, Juarez sounds stupid and so does wares  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.18.105.140 (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation? 

message: Under "etymology" the article asserts that "warez" is also used as an adjective "Do you know any good warez sites?" but judging from this sentence alone an interpretation as open compound noun seems more likely to me. If indeed it is an adjective here, "warez" and "sites" would have to be stressed about equally, while in a compound noun the stress would be on the last word. Can someone please check this? – Telofy (talk) 06:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that the word serves as a noun adjunct in the sentence, but I'm not going to change anything since I can't be bothered to read up on all 'em pretty wikipedia rules. 81.233.211.87 (talk) 22:46, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Correct, that's not an adjective, any more than "tractor" is an adjective in "tractor parts". 80.235.236.18 (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "warez" as adjective? 

message: I want WiiBrew's Policy against warez to be added to the "see also" section of the article to show that some websites don't allow warez.
71.94.158.203 (talk) 01:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Already mentioned under the legalities section. Could be used as a source, not a "see also". SpigotMap 12:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 71.94.158.203, 8 June 2010 

message: "or as an adjective "Do you know any good warez sites?""
That is no adjective it a part of a compound. 'warez sites' is a compund noun!
94.9.44.100 (talk) 22:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really; it's both. You can analyze it as a compound noun, especially since it's a commonly repeated usage, but it's not a construction that, if taken apart, really changes in meaning or function. Warez is modifying a noun. If you take it out, sites is still valid and means the same (but more general) thing it did with the modifier. Who is like God? (talk) 04:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parsing fail 

message: Shitty DRM - no one can stand the bullshit especially Ubisoft put into their software.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iffamies (talk • contribs) 00:47, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The main reason for software piracy 

message: This word is misspelled in the final paragraph: "maliciouness".  It should be "maliciousness".  
Tweedly-dee (talk) 14:04, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling error 

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message: Warez hasn't always meant copyrighted works, warez in the beginning meant more to do with blackhat hacking.  I think that should be acknowledged.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Warez" 

message: The term "piracy" is loaded, and hardly neutral, thus not suitable to any article taking a NPOV.
A much more neutral phrase would be "unauthorized copying" (or perhaps even "unauthorized sharing").
This is written up in  which essentially makes the point that using the very term "piracy" creates a false analogy to kidnapping and murder on the high seas, presumably activities not normally part of any cracking effort.
Son of eugene (talk) 19:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I support that. --TiagoTiago (talk) 01:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I support this too Smk65536 (talk) 18:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am also in support 60.243.43.59 (talk) 16:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Piracy" is a loaded word, can we use something more neutral? 

message: In the last section, "Warez and piracy", "Warez sites" does not appear to be limited to "The Scene", as described in the first part of the article. Perhaps this should be merged to articles on file sharing in general, and the part about the Warez scene be merged into that article instead? Smk65536 (talk) 18:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Warez and piracy split proposal 

message: Where does the word warez come from ?
Why a "z" ?
It should be explained: pirate vocabulary often has a "z" to show that it's been pirated !  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:EE45:ECF0:159D:DEC8:D072:5B38 (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethymology of WAREZ 

message: As I was coming here to seek a source for some teaching, I reviewed the article, and started out by finding a dead URL in an opening source. I corrected that, then noted several things that defy wikipedia policy and guidelines. The article appears to have stalled, and still bears various article tags dating back to 2008-2009. The things that defy policy include:
* The lede did not (and still does not) adequately summarize the actual article; in moving some of the prose into the main body, and condensing it in the lede, I have made room for addition of further summary statements that fully capture the article;
* The structure of the article put introductory and general sections late, and opened with highly detailed sections that used terms it failed to define; i began to address this backward presentation, by moving the terminology section up, and moving the introductory definitions and examples appearing in the lede, into this section (essentially in full, previous form); note, these definitions still need to be sourced;
* The article as a whole contains many sections, as are now noted, that are completely unsourced (and which have apparently been this way since '08-'09).
I hope this can be a start to begin to address the serious violations that have been noted, now, for over a half-decade. Cheers. Le Prof. Leprof 7272 (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Made, reviewed edits

message: I did a search of the title term in Google scholar. These were the opening hits:
Clicking on a sort field in Google Scholar (that shows only recent articles) provides view of 2015-2016 entries, as opposed to these older, but more highly cited articles. As well, temporary placement, while editing, of the "BLP unreferenced" tag make appear links that will automatically do searches of books and news sources. Bottom line, there is no reason this article should continue to be unsourced, and so dated and limited in its scholarship. Cheers. Le Prof. 73.211.138.148 (talk) 15:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Wealth of material available to make this article encyclopedic

message: Prima facie, looking at the leet article at WP, the term "warez" does not seem to fit the definition of leetspeak. Who says it does?  This source must be provided! Cheers. Le Prof 73.211.138.148 (talk) 15:33, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This was removed from the lede, and expanded in the main article, after sourcing was found that made clear that "W4r3z" was the most common leetspeak version, and that adding a "z" in and of itself was not sufficient to make the warez term itself into leetspeak (slang yes, advertising copy, yes, uniquely leetspeak, apparently not, as W4r3z is how it usually so appears). Change back if a source can be found to justify it. 73.211.138.148 (talk) 18:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Please verify and source leetspeak contention, which is unverifiable

message: The "Motivations and arguments" section is completely unsourced, and presents material that is redundant with the adjacent "Legality" section. (These sections were made adjacent in recent editing, bringing this issue of repetition to the forefront.) Please consider merging these two sections, and removing unsourced material and WP:OR, leaving one cohesive and encyclopedic section. Le Prof  73.211.138.148 (talk) 18:09, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Please consider merging sections

message: "The term warez, which is intended to be pronounced like the word "wares" (/ˈwɛərz/), was coined in the 1990s;"
The name was used heavily in the 1980's. In fact, for the C64, the warez scene was nearly dead by 1990. Many people (especially in Europe) had moved on to the Amiga by then, or some to the PC.
FYI:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene#History
:The name "warez scene" probably didn't exist at the time. It could just be referred to as "the scene". Has anyone seen the word "warez" in use before 1990? Ondertitel (talk) 20:43, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  name history 

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