Talk:Asif Ali Zardari

message: The man once said" I have even forgotten the persons who cut-off my tongue". All the allegations regarding to his corruption are corrupt themselves. In contrast if we see "Nawaz Sharif's" page on wkiki, we don't find, Asghar khan's case(the greatest political and monetory fraud in Pakistan done by Nawaz Shrif), His agreement with Musharaf, withdrawal of 22,000 Sindhi employees, His Anti-Muhajir operations in Karachi, Deduction of provincial revenues for three provinces and many things more.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.47.240.132 (talk) 14:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: This is not a neutral page .This page is just a representation of typical morons of Punjab

message: Please everyone when writing something about political stuff, plz remain neutral..Dont mention Punjabi, sindhi, etc HunterZone (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Its WIKIPEIDA not a political blog

message: Let's discuss this. It seems to me some people did something nominally "for" some PPP prisoners, which included Zardari, but were unsuccessful. I doubt the PPP prisoners organized the event from prison. Did the event have any effect on their lives? How exactly is this event relevant to Zardari? Gimmetoo (talk) 23:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. If someone does stupid and criminal things while mentioning Zardari, that's still not relevant to Zardari unless Zardari is either involved in the acts or his reaction to the acts is significant. Right now, there's no indication that Zardari promoted the hijacking, knew of it beforehand or even cared afterwards. Huon (talk) 11:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I second that. The event is not too significant to include in this article. This should be removed. Sarmadhassan (talk) 16:00, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of event 

message: There are rumors that Zardari married a Tanweer Zamani in Dubai; this piece was given as a source. It gives two blogs as its sources, meaning it's not reliable by Wikipedia's standards. For comparison: Zamani denies ever meeting Zardari, Zardari threatens to sue (the article explains that this is "a rumour posted on several hitherto unheard of blogs and websites"). This story looks like an internet rumor being exploited by Zardari's critics. Huon (talk) 08:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Telegraph story is a reliable source, not it all comes to whether it is compatible with BOLP or not. I do not support adding even original content based on rumors. Sarmadhassan (talk) 09:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Telegraph story reports a denial of the rumour. I don't see a good reason to include this rumour at this time. If the subject of the article officially denied the rumour with some commentary, maybe, but that's not happened. Gimmetoo (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supposed marriage 

message: We need to protect this page from non auto-confirmed users. It is ridiculous and actually hurting the progress of this page's development because I literally daily come here to realize that this page has been vandalized by a user. This page needs to be protected because instead of improving this page, new users attempt to destroy the page. There has been nearly 30 different vandals in 30 days.  Can an administrator put this page on hold at least till the clean up is complete? Mni9791 (talk) 04:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. Mni9791 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Locking this page, ratings, and last information cleanup

message: I would like everyone to note that on May 5 (the day protection expired), this page received vandalism from 4 different IP addresses. PROTECT PERMANENTLY. (Mni9791 (talk) 05:07, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The correct place to ask for protection is WP:RFPP. I don't think the current level of vandalism is sufficient to warrant excluding all new editors from editing the page, but I have no experience with the protecting admins' criteria. Huon (talk) 09:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Protect the page permanently

message: *Can someone upload these two pictures in Wikipedia Commons? I don't know how. Mni9791 (talk) 14:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: In the section "Early life and education" it says in the first sentence:
:"Zardari was born on 26 July 1955 in Nawabashah, Sindh of Pakistan."
In the third sentence it says:
:"He was born in Karachi..."
His mother must have been in a lot of pain!
4.240.117.207 (talk) 06:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Karachi seems correct; that's what the BBC explicitly says. The Telegtraph says that he was born "the obscure scion of an ambitious family of small landowners from Nawabashah", which probably just means that his parents were from Nawabashah, not that he was born there. Thanks, will make the relevant change. Huon (talk) 11:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Further info. Shortly before the Telegraph article was published (September 2008), this Wiki article had July 21, 1956; the date had been added September 2007 and was unsourced; it was changed to reflect the govt. biography here. It seems to me using the Telegraph article for birthdate might be a circular reference. Gimmetoo (talk) 23:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, thanks for pointing that out. The source we had for Zardari's birthdate was a broken link, so I tried to find another one, and the Telegraph was the first (and only one) I found. I was a little surprised by the discrepancy, but didn't look closely enough to realize what had happened. My mistake. Huon (talk) 01:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born Where? 

message: Could we get a reliable secondary source for Zardari's acting career? I couldn't find anything beyond blogs, YouTube video commentary and Wikipedia mirrors. Huon (talk) 10:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Aah, yes. Apparently, that is a very little known yet interesting fact about Zardari. If you understand Urdu and take a look at this clip, it shows a small scene of Zardari as a child actor in a 1969 movie. True, there are not many reliable sources which discuss Zardari's early childhood or his links to cinema; that's why this information is trivial in the first place. Mar4d (talk) 10:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I also looked for sources. I could not find a single reliable source. We can not use Youtube clips or blogs to cite information, especially on a biography of a living person who is running for political office. This article is a reliable and effective because it uses highly authenticated reliable sources. Having an uncited statement such as this weakens the article and the hard work that has been put into it. You admit that this is unknown triva: "is a very little known yet interesting fact about Zardari". This article is also undergoing a FA nominee and the unsourced statement will hurt the process. Reformation32 (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I don't think Mar4d wanted to add that factoid to the article without a reliable source - neither do I. Huon (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, if I jumped into an earlier discussion. My discussion was concerning today's edit- .Reformation32 (talk) 18:43, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Videos can easily be faked - and the most common place for that is YouTube too. For that reason YouTube videos are generally not considered a reliable source - definitely not if the uploader is not affiliated with the producer. Do you know when that news airing was originally broadcast? Does the broadcaster perchance have an online archive? Huon (talk) 07:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Child actor: 1969 Salgirah movie 

message: Although it is nice to see that the article has GA status, I only have one issue: it delves straight into the 'controversy' stuff right from the second paragraph. I think it would be better if most of this info is moved into the bottom first sections rather than right at the beginning of the article which is supposed to only give an overview and sort of introduce the person. Shouldn't the start of the article preferably just talk about his current status and role rather than going into the history? This would also sort-a tone down the POV, no matter how controversial Zardari is as a public figure. Mar4d (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the personal life section is usually at the top; Mar4d (talk) 11:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the personal life section is usually at the top; for Barack Obama, David Cameron, Angela Merkel, Naoto Kan and Hu Jintao it's relatively far down near the end of their articles. I'd say it's a matter of significance; Zardari is not primarily known for his personal life, and his political career should be covered first. Huon (talk) 13:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Valid point; but regarding the long lead paragraphs, I still think much of it should be moved into the sections rather than at the top of the article. Mar4d (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This page had an intense argument a while ago about Zardari and his Shia. Another similar argument has emerged in the Bilawal Bhutto Zardari page.  Reformation32 (talk) 12:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bilawal Zardari Bhutto 

message: Please remove the religion "Shia Islam" from the info box because his policies are apparent thta he is a an anti Shia and Saudi Wahabi Agent. Just yesterday he has has postponed the three death sentences to banned Sipahe Sahaba Activist who killed a Shia doctor some years back. As well In his existence the in Presidency Quetta has become Karbala for Hazara Shia and same for Parachinar Gilgit Baltistan and Karachi.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.248.73.214 (talk) 21:59, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as reliable sources state he's a Shia, that's what Wikipedia will report. His policies are not necessarily related to personal religious beliefs. Huon (talk) 23:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asif Zardari is not a Shia but an Anti Shia 

message: Windowdoom (talk) 04:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Windowdoom, 17 July 2011 

message: This is to request that the sub heading in the section with respect to personal life titled 'Surrey Palace' is factually incorrect. While the government of Pakistan has laid claim to Surrey Palace multiple times, no such claim has been made by Asif Ali Zardari. Please note that the references in question are reports about the allegations in varying newspapers and no direct or indirect acceptance has been made neither can be found in these referred articles.
Thus I would request the following para to be rectified according to facts;
He initially denied for eight years that he owned the property and no-one paid the bills for the work on the unoccupied mansion.[45][263]  Creditors forced a liquidation sale in 2004 and the Pakistani government claimed proceeds because the home was bought with money through corruption.[45] However, he stepped in to claim that he actually was the beneficial owner.[8] As of November 2008[update], the proceeds were in a liquidator bank account while a civil case continues.[45]
As follows;
He has so far denied that he owned the property and that he paid the bills for the work on the unoccupied mansion.[45][263]  Creditors forced a liquidation sale in 2004 and the Pakistani government claimed proceeds because the home was bought with money through corruption.[45] As of November 2008[update], the proceeds were in a liquidator bank account while a civil case continues.[45]
:The Guardian explicitly says that Zardari's lawyers claimed him to be the beneficial owner, in two different articles. The Guardian is a reliable source, and I see no reason to disregard it here. The distinction between Zardari making the claim and his lawyers making the claim on his behalf seems rather irrelevant. Huon (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request from Kalamkaar 

message: Reformation32 (talk) 05:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures that can be used for this page 

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message: Given the frequent vandalism this article faced in the past, and still persistently faces by random IPs as can be seen in the edit history log, why is this article not semi-protected? When you leave a GA article, that too on a controversial figure, open to editing, you are inviting the article to be ruined. Mar4d (talk) 08:05, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It was recently semiprotected and is at the moment (just not tagged) till 30 January 2012. Check out . --lTopGunl (talk) 05:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: I would have thought that this was too controversial a term to use as a section heading? 75.41.110.200 (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. I have changed the sub-heading to War in Afghanistan. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 07:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: AfPak War

message: The text looks same for both. Is there any difference? Urdu: آصف علی زرداری and Sindhi: آصف علي زرداري. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 09:08, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sindhi has two additional underlines. But I don't read or speak either and cannot tell how significant that is. Huon (talk) 12:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Huon. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 14:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

text: The underlines are vowels which are understood by the language speakers without being in place from the grammar. They are only used when being written for some one who can read the script but is not good with the grammar or spellings. The formal writing does not contain these. Both names are the same - should be written as (Urdu, Sindhi: Name) with the Urdu version. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Urdu and Sindhi 

message: Please i am edit his Death Date
Malikliaquat (talk) 09:34, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Since Zardari is alive and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, I don't see how that would be possible. Huon (talk) 10:55, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 17 January 2012 

message: * Zardari Set to Assume Pakistan's Presidency
This source has been used multiple times in the article and should be examined for WP:UNDUE. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 13:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: At first glance it looks like a reliable secondary source which provides an in-depth history of Zardari before his presidency. The WSJ should be rather neutral in Pakistani affairs. Could you specify what use of this source might run afoul of WP:UNDUE? Huon (talk) 13:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examine source 

message: The following text was added by BrightStarSky under the section "Wealth", sub-section "Surrey estate", which i felt was not the right place for the addition:
Pakistan's Supreme Court on 12 July 2012 set 25 July as the deadline for the Prime Minister to approach the Swiss authoriies to reopen the graft cases against the President, Asif Ali Zardari. Failure to take action in the matter, would invite appropriate action under the Constitution, the Court warned. 
Can a better location be suggested as i cannot find any? Perhaps a new section? Thanks! Anir1uph (talk) 05:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the text is pretty relevant in the "wealth" section since the "graft cases" are about heaps of money (gained by questionable methods) stored in Swiss bank accounts. Perhaps the sentence can be better clarified, but the section in which it has been inserted seems fine. Mar4d (talk) 07:47, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Wealth"yes, but "Surrey estate" seems wrong. A new subsection of "wealth", maybe "2012 judicial investigation"? On the other hand, this issue has cost Pakistan a Prime Minister, if I'm not mistaken, so maybe a new subsection of the "Presidency" could also do if we consider this a political issue. Huon (talk) 07:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

text: It was in the sub-section Surrey estate. Also, this is a legal and government matter, and there is a whole section of Mr Zardari's legal problems on this page, so i thought it was better to first discuss it here. Thanks! Anir1uph (talk) 08:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Proper place of the following text

message: In the intro, please changeis the 11th President of Pakistantois the 11th and current President of PakistanUpon reading the intro sentence, I didn't realize that he was still the president; I thought it was a verb tense error (i.e. should be "was the 11th") in a sentence that the author intended to be similar to sentences such as was the 14th President of the United States.  2001:18E8:2:1020:2471:1719:86D3:F5A6 (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done BryanG (talk) 02:37, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 10 July 2013 

message: 182.188.243.65 (talk) 02:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  He was 11th President of Pakistan. 

message: The sentence, "He is the first randi ka backa haram khoor madar chod of the year" is not entirely true since his power was stripped and handed over to the Prime Minister during his tenure. This point has been made later in the article but the above sentence needs to be qualified with this information. Otherwise, the sentence makes it seem like there were no significant events during his presidency.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.10.100.185 (talk) 03:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence in opening paragraph needs more clarity 

message: 182.183.169.134 (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2015 

message: 119.63.142.41 (talk) 17:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2015 

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message: Please add  in the personal information of the infobox. It will appear as 
Source is in the Wealth section of the article where this amount is mentioned.
NOTE: To confirm the amount in PKR, Please see the template without year  which converts to exact US$ as mentioned in the article with source. Now add year 2005 according to the source which makes it , the amount I requested you to add. And also in Wealth section rewrite wealth ammount using PKRConvert template as written above.--119.160.98.59 (talk) 00:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2017 

message: Someone reverted the edit added by  per my request. Please add the removed edit again. Here's the revision when it was added and in this edit it was removed.--139.190.118.184 (talk) 00:33, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverting editor in this case. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:35, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits 14:26, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the source  and it is also present in the Wealth section. It is a notable information as he was named 2nd richest in the country.--139.190.118.184 (talk) 01:02, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

text: Not done: Regardless of source, according to Ominictionary, Mr. Zarfari is NOT notable for his net worth, and no known RS talks about it. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:16, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  How is the 2nd richest person in a country not notable for his wealth? He is also the richest Pakistani politician and article also discusses about his wealth. So this information is notable enough for infobox. And it is totally correct to add net worth with a source in a good article.--139.190.118.184 (talk) 06:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

text: Alright, I've had enough of this! IP, please accept that this change fails WP:GNG. , thank you for enforcing this. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: :Category:Pakistani politicians convicted of crimes 194.176.105.138 (talk) 12:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dolotta (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2018 

message: Is the honorific-prefix =  His Excellency also used for Head of State whose term has ended?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaydbinumar (talk • contribs) 00:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: We do not use it for people in office as well. Zardari is special and unique. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  His excellency 

message: Please add his June 2019 arrest--2605:6000:1526:450B:40B7:E56B:B663:EE1D (talk) 19:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 19:14, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Done Albeit only partly as the BBC article doesn't mention that he was granted bail in December, another source would be necessary for that. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs)  15:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

text: . Edit requests are for requests to make specific, precise edits, not general pleas for article improvement. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit request

message: Died: 30 May 2020 37.111.136.145 (talk) 08:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --TheImaCow (talk) 08:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020 

message: Please add his indictment in the Tosakhana grift case, as it would reflect an update.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-10/pakistan-court-indicts-ex-president-zardari-in-graft-case
:. Edit requests are for requests to make specific edits, not general pleas for article improvement. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done With supplied refernence Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request 

message: 103.31.100.229 (talk) 11:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No edit requested. Closing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2021 

message: The Photo of His Highness Mr. Asif Ali Zardari is changed with some nonsense actor called waqar zaka. Kindly remove his photo and upload Asif Ali Zardari’s photo. 37.208.148.147 (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I rolled back that vandalism and reported the vandal. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2021 

message: Asif ali zardari belongs to Baloch Jatt  zardari tribe Haly601 (talk) 00:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2021 

message: We are all one and must look out for the people around us. Give without wanting anything back. The water that flows threw the river of Gods kingdom  changes with the water  resources. Please share 2601:8C0:680:600:DA1:EAFF:255:F511 (talk) 03:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Save us 

message: persnol Secretary Abdullah Baloch 2404:3100:1441:89D0:9448:F65:1011:22C (talk) 11:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Secretary  

message: Asif Ali Zardari assumed office as 14th President of Pakistan. FullyIslamist (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2024 

message: 'Mr. 10%' becomes Mr. President” - France24 94.173.201.168 (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corruption