Talk:SimCity 4/Archive 1

message: I'm not sure about you (that's why I'm asking) I found this game rather difficult compared the others, how you must co-ordinate regions, etc for your city to get bigger. What about you? I thought of mentioning this in the page. The snare 14:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Difficulty

message: Refering to the recent edits by 12.203.219.158 and 12.202.192.173 , SuperChad Productions should not be listed yet as the team is non-notable, with no buildings released as of August 2005, although it is known that some are in production .
Until their have submited downloads into public and become well-known in the community, this addition is considered to be vanity. ╫ 25 ring-a-ding 17:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SuperChad Productions 

message: Don't forget, you can help write a book about Sim City 4 at Wikibooks.
Gerard Foley 12:46, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikibooks

message: I'm really sorry for asking something that is not about the article.  My question is is there a way to use the weaknesspays cheat by pressing up on the directional keys?  My friend told me there was but he forgot.  Please let me know soon.69.26.107.174 23:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid you have better luck getting replies in a SimCity 4 Internet forum like Simtropolis. Wikipedia talk pages are intended to discuss changes made in the article only. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 01:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: wouldn't it be better to save maxis some bandwith and place the two most visited fansites (simcitycentral and simtropolis) on the main page?
:If you're referring the main page to the main article (SimCity 4 article), it's already done. But the SimCity 4 fan site listing is still useful, in addition to being the official web directory for SimCity 4, albeit taking longer to load and linking to partially defunct sites. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 10:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  fansites 

message: I need people to change the links on the City Journals. -Tracker 19:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exit 12: Relinking our City Journals 

message: I just tried to play SC4 again after a long time, I installed it, downloaded and installed the patch for it, it seemed to work ok, except for the mouse flashing and leaving the marks of where the mouse has been all over the screen. Then it just shut off and went to the desktop, like nothing ever happened. Any ideas?
:This talk page is mainly about the article, not problems with the game. Try posting your problem at a forum. --Snkcube 05:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Problems? 

message: I play The Sims ( site  | Sims here | console )...
I'm playing Chris Sawyer's Locomotion. It's a RollerCoaster Tycoon-meets-SimCity-strategy game.
This guy no longer plays SimCity as of February 2006.
--RCT Locomotion Wikipedia 00:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer playing SimCity games 

message: I have removed the section entitled 'Development' as it was not a stub. It was an empty section. A stub should contain at least some form of expansion on the actual heading else it has no purpose. This page should be used to discuss the need to add things to it if there is no information available instead. -Localzuk (talk) 22:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Developement section 

message: How does one upload screenshots on to Wikipedia?--70.189.248.92 16:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Upload file" link in the toolbox bar on the left allows you to upload files, but you need to create an account, and adhere to Wikipedia's image use policy. Next time, though, it may be a better idea to visit Help:Contents for directions or inquiries. Asking questions in seemingly unrelated talk pages may not produce any responses. I hope you find this useful next time. :) ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 19:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to? 

message: Simtropolis was nominated for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simtropolis). I closed that discussion as no consensus. As an editor, I would like to bring here the discussion about whether or not to merge the article into SimCity 4. Personally I think the website is notable enough to get a mention, but not to get a full length article as has now so I'm suggestion it should be merged (as did some others on the AFD discussion). Petros471 19:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. they are completly diffrent.--Mac Lover Talk 03:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Keep separate as per little duplication of material. However consider a compilation of SimCity fansites instead of one focusing on Simtropolis. There were some long-running ones spanning several SimCity versions including the currently titled SC4ever.com. Although they're dying, I think it's a shame that notable equates to current. Certainly that's not a criterion that will stand the test of time. Davilla 14:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Against the merger, unless a section were created in this article for brief descriptions of notable fansites. SimCity Central deserves at least half the mention of Simtropolis, IMHO. Following Davilla's suggestion, SC3000.COM (linked in SimCity 3000 as the SimCity 3000 Resource Center), is also worthy of mention. -AndromedaRoach 04:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I can only see a merger of Simtropolis (ST) to SimCity 4 as beneficial if the fansite has directly contributed significantly to the further development of SimCity 4 after its release, and has been referred by notable publications for this (Meeting these criteria would at most grant the site a mention in the Modd Squad section). I'm also concerned on whether creators of mods are worthy of mention in articles on computer games. Mods themselves have mostly been permitted for mention, especially those for modable games, but not many of those who help create or host them (teams or individuals). ST in particular has only been a site that hosts forum discussions, modding activities and offer user-made downloads, a reason I believe the site's mention should be kept in a bare minimum (which the article currently has) and ST article simply redirected to the SimCity 4 article, if a merge is required. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 15:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Against. Put simply: SimTropolis is a WEBSITE. SimCity 4 is a VIDEO GAME. Nothing more needs to be said. I'm removing the merge templates. Lakeyboy 11:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Simtropolis]] merge suggestion 

message: it should probaly be mentioned some place in the arctcle that files from SC4 are used to form the layouts for negihboorhoods in sims 2. I mean any city you lay out in SC4, you can then make a S2 town with the same layoutLego3400: The Sage of Time 03:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hard to say. This would be more suited in The Sims 2 than here, the same way The Sims article doesn't mention SimCity 4 as having derived the latter's character design and objects in the game from, yet have the SimCity 4 article mentioning how it is compatible with the first Sims. Besides, this article is intended to discuss primarily SimCity 4-related topics, not the other way around. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 04:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, since this article already mentions how SC4 is compatible with The Sims, I think it is suitable to add a very brief mention of its compatibility with The Sims 2 as well. --Funnykidrian 16:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sims 2 Neghboorhood layouts 

message: Just a small edit, dunno where this would go, so I just shoved it at the bottom of the page:
The player also has the option of starting the city in a segment of any of three area sizes, the largest being 256 by 256 tiles, approximately 4 by 4 miles in real measurement. 
Changed the wording of that sentence so it actually reads 4.096km by 4.096km - this is correct, as each tile is 16m by 16m. Just a small correction, is all. 58.168.48.29 06:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sectioned this message. Thanks for the input. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 10:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: City length

message: Avenue, Water Pipe, Cloverleaf junction, Hydrogen Power Plant, Small Park Green, these are some of the items that can be found in the game. I have been thinking of creating either a new section on this page about the list of items available in SimCity 4 & SimCity 4 Rush Hour or creating a new article about the list of items available in SimCity 4 & SimCity 4 Rush Hour. If you feel like adding your thoughts about my idea, feel free to write down your thoughts here. Aranho 20:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been some problems in Wikipedia regarding the merit of specific gameplay-related information. It's not justified by Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (stating that articles should not include video game guides) and is considered by certain editors to be cruft (in fact, the amount of gameplay information is more than enough, as the other features are nothing special). Wikipedia articles are encyclopedic articles, and are only meant to provide a basic overview of a topic. Everything else can be provided in a sister Wikis, WikiBooks (which has a SimCity entry), or StrategyWiki. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 14:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Game's Item

message: I was about to start a SimCity 5 article, but when googling for information I found from Google's cache that Wikipedia used to have a SimCity 5 article. Is it removed because not much information is known yet? Taskinen 18:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SimCity 5 (working title), the current consensus is that there is still little facts revealed to have a SimCity 5 article (the only sources that the article cites are brief hints in GameSpot of the game's release). When more details about the game come about, then the article may be recreated. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 19:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity 5 

message: When I was playing today I suddenly noticed High Tech Industries called "Kane Tiberium". Are there other little tributes like this in the game that could be used to form some sort of a trivia section?
Cyanara 13:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Simtropolis was recently nominated for deletion. I've merged the article with SimCity4 in order to preserve its contents. Please let me know if you have any objections to its incorporation. I believe Simtropolis serves well within this context. Kugelmass 23:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has apparently been proposed before, but the general feeling seems to be that it is not an appropriate merge.  Chris cheese whine 00:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not realize that a merge was previously discussed. As someone who has never played SimCity 4, I found the Simtropolis content very supportive and pertinent to the subject. Where can I find an archived discussion page? Among other things, I am very curious as to why it was not deleted during the previous nomination.Kugelmass 01:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Scroll up a bit.  Chris cheese whine 02:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simtropolis 

message: "A small town in SimCity 4, surrounded by farmland. New regional gameplay made towns such as this feasible for the first time in the SimCity series."  - the caption below the farm town picture
Farming towns weren't feasible before because they invariably turned to manufacturing (in sim city 3000 unlimited).  Sim city 4 made zoning for farmland an option.  So the regional play doesn't really deserve credit for making farming towns possible.
*I also feel that simtropolis.com is worthy of a link.  It is a direct result of the game and tools created by maxis.  It has added a lot of depth to the game and for that reason merits a link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.190.218 (talk) 
**Yes, I think that Simtropolis is very important for many players. Simtropolis used to have its own article, so it would be acceptable to add it as an external link.Reguiieee (talk) 14:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why you posted this here, but the reason it isn't linked to is because it is a fansite, which the guidelines/policies state we shouldn't link to. Instead, we have a link to a directory of fansites. Remember, wikipedia isn't a collection of links.-Localzuk(talk) 14:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Misleading Caption

message: Have all of the screenshots been taken by you from your own game? A little more would not go amisss D. BULL 11:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Too many violates WP:FU policy #3, and this article may already have too many. It's advantageous to focus on cramming as many features in lesser screenshots as possible. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 13:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  R.E screenshots 

message: I think the building designs section should be slightly rewritten, to mention that buildings in the game were inspired by more than just San Francisco structures. There is probably no "verifiable source" to cite, but there was a discussion once on the old SimCity Central site about the origins of many of the games buildings, and members of that forum located dozens and dozens of real world buildings that are reproduced very accurately in the game. Buildings from New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Atlanta, and many others were identified in-game, usually with very slight alterations in design. Toroca 04:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide a link on it. I'm interested to know myself. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 13:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Building Designs 

message: I have noticed that the Rush Hour expansion pack now has its own article, though the section on Rush Hour in this article is not that much shorter than the Rush Hour article itself. Perhaps, we should reduce the Rush Hour section in this article to a summary, and put most of the information in the Rush Hour article, so to avoid repetitiveness. Camaron1 | Chris 18:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now merged most of the information about Rush Hour into the main article, and just left a summary paragraph. I have tried to avoid losing some encyclopedic information in the process, however excessive repeating of information should now not exist. Camaron1 | Chris 15:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The recent merge virtually cut off everything about the EP except the release date, which only reduces the informative value of the section when read from the SC4 article. A summary is still needed anyway even though it has its own article. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 14:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I did leave a summary, I disagree that the merge was "sloppy". The summary that was left was sufficient and the relationship between this article and the Rush Hour one is better than it was. I do however agree the summary currently placed in this article "fits in" better now than it did. Camaron1 | Chris 16:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rush Hour Section

message: Hey, if anyone who has SimCity 4 and got a drive-in cinema (you can get one in commercial development), watch the movie that will be played on the screen. This movie is actually a short section of the SimCity 3000 trailer. The movie is about the UFO section of SimCity 3000 trailer. Should we add this to the trivia section? Aranho 11:14, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.204.116 (talk) 23:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity 3000 trailer in SimCity 4 

message: I have noticed that the trivia section of this article has become an easter eggs section. I do have to dispute this slightly as not all the content in that section is necessarily about an "easter egg". For example A few of the vehicles in the game are from the cancelled game SimsVille which Maxis also worked on. is more about links to other games, not easter eggs. I suggest we either clean that section to be about easter eggs in a perhaps less listed format, or we turn it back into a temporary trivia section. Camaron1 | Chris 10:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now cleaned and moved this section - I think it looks better now. Camaron1 | Chris 13:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I have removed this point completely - it does not pass WP:OR as Vu could mean a variety of things and no verification has been provided. Camaron1 | Chris 08:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes I think you are right, putting it into prose seems to be a good idea, and would allow it to fit into the article better. Camaron1 | Chris 16:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter eggs 

message: What are the farms useful for? Huge tracts of land have tiny farmhouses that employ 2 people, and they generate so much pollution. 59.183.184.210 19:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome; you might want to visit a SimCity 4 fan-site like Simtropolis for a better answer. This talk page is only for discussion on how to improve the article. Camaron1 | Chris 20:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Agricultural Zones?

message: Does anybody know anything about it? If you do, tell me what it is and where I can get it.--MP123 05:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity 4 (csc) 

message: The text under one of the images -I believe is it one within the section involving add-ons- reads "urban city." It should either read "urban area" or, simply, "city." All cities are urban, which makes the phrase "urban city" a rather redundant statement, as if someone had been trying to use BIG WORDS without first double-checking their meaning in a dictionary.
 
Sorry about the rant.
 
sorrythankyou —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.94.107.8 (talk) 
: No need to be sorry, I have re-phrased this caption for you. Camaron1 | Chris 09:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing captions 

message: I have began the slow process of getting this article to GA post peer review. I have done the following:
* Re-named "Gameplay changes" to "Gameplay" - section should focus on SimCity 4 itself most of the time.
* Cut building design section for now. Relevance to SimCity 4 was questioned in the peer review and had inappropriate citations. Something on this could be re-added for the Gameplay section though. I have merged the building design section into the gameplay section, this will need cleanup.
* Re-organised general images and captions. More images I do not think would be appropriate - especially since most are uploaded under fair use. I am going to make sure they all have fair use rationales as needed.
* Re-organised some text to make some sections clearer.
I plan to also:
* Possibly merge "Future updates", "Add-On Modifications" and "Bugs" section into one section of continues prose.
* Create a game development section.
* Extend introduction.
* Generally improve sources used.
* Remove trivial information in Gameplay section and make it read less like an advert.
* Extend Reception section - add review comments. 
I will continue working on the article as necessary. Camaron1 | Chris 15:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drive to GA

message: I noticed that Simptropolis has been but up for AfD.  Certain fansites, like Simtropolis and sc4ever are really relevant to the topic that we might want to merge it into the rest of the article as well.
ætərnal ðrAعon → 12:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, Simtropolis is now deleted. It has proved controversial on if fan-site information should be included in a game article (see archived discussion of this page). At most it should be a summary of one or two of the more notable fan-sites. Camaron1 | Chris 16:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem is, you start getting into the whole 'why is that site more notable than X site?' arguments and stuff like that and the section will slowly but surely get bigger as more and more are included.-Localzuk(talk) 17:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The same problem occurred with external links for fan sites in this article (see archives), one was added for Simtropolis and then a lot more appeared. Any such fan site section would have to be implemented carefully.  Camaron1 | Chris 18:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  well most people know how big simtropolis is, and with all that content they would benifit with a link, so for example someone comes to wiki to learn more about sc4, while there they learn about simtropolis, and while there find tons of custom content, i think we should mention simtropolis since this would allow people to find custom content easily, and maybe some other sites could be added later, but just simtropolis for now, we shouldnt just not mention about custom content and where to get it, or people will think whats in the game is all there is.--Superchad 22:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how big simtropolis is, and stating it is big is not a valid argument. If we have valid, reliable, external sources stating that it is the biggest and most notable site then it should exist as its own article, but not included here. Also, considering it now covers 'Sim City: Societies', it would not be appropriate here. I think it is fine as it is to have a link to dmoz where these sort of sites are listed in abundance, until such a time when a reliable source or sources (preferably) can be provided for its own article.-Localzuk(talk) 22:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: all we need is a link to simtropolis and one or two other sites, no information, just a link to it that might say, "has great custom content and has a great community" or something like that, the ea fansite listing is a bunch of bs of lots of crappy fansites, which if you look through them, then you would find out that few are any good, simtropolis is one of the few good ones, also why would st not be appropriate here if it also covers sim city societies?--Superchad 03:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My main concern here is observing Wikipedia' s WP:NPOV policy, Simtropolis been the best and largest community is ultimately down to opinion. I agree that maybe the external links section of this article needs reviewing - perhaps to be cut down a little. Though I am still going to be cautious before adding Simtropolis to the external link list or even more creating a section on it in this article. If there is going to be content on Simtropolis I would rather it had its own article. Camaron1 | Chris 09:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  P.S: Fansites 

message: I have cleaned and cut down the external links section. I have re-formatted the official site section so there are no longer re-directs to the SimCity Societies website while maintaining links to useful resources such as the "Inside scoop" and "fan-site directory" - most fan sites can be found this way, meaning direct links to fan sites in this article are generally unnecessary. 
I have cut down the additional resources section to one link per website - I have added the Simtropolis Omnibus as it contains some useful SimCity 4 information for readers beyond the scope of this article, with no registration been required. I have removed the "Mods/Downloads" section completely; only fan-site home page links and such sections of websites require registration to use and should be avoided per WP:EL. Camaron1 | Chris 11:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The gameplay section of this article is only for the original SimCity 4 game, this does not include Rush Hour, that has its own article at SimCity 4: Rush Hour. To verify, the original SimCity 4 game had two police station sizes, two fire station sizes, and two hospital sizes (with the smaller been called a clinic). Rush Hour added two further sizes of police station, and a fire department landing strip. Camaron1 | Chris 16:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay section and Rush Hour 

message: As part of the expansion of the review section, I am creating a list of SimCity 4 reviews and similar that can be used below for reference to help:
*IGN review
*Game stats
*Gamespot review
*Gamezone review
*Gamershell review
*Gaming excellence review
*Armchair empire review
*Rotten tomatoes reviews
*Gamespy review
*Inside mac games review
*Gamepro review
*Gameplanet review
Overall, the views are positive, with most saying SimCity 4 is a very good game, though a few are quite negative and should be used to resolve issues brought up at the peer review saying that this article is to promotional. Camaron1 | Chris 19:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: SimCity 4 reviews

message: Does this game work with Vista?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.204.116 (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it does - though it is not listed in the system requirements as the game was released before Vista came out, Windows Vista vs. SimCity 4 could be mentioned in the article if there is a good reliable source available. Camaron | Chris (talk) 21:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  A set of suggested system requirements for a PC running Vista are on the article. This also states that SC4 only uses one core on dual-core machines. This is not unique to SC4 - most programs written before multi-core processors became popular will by default only run on one core. However, AMD have released a program called a "dual-core optimiser" which apparently automatically load-balances tasks designed for single cores across both cores - provided your processor is an AMD one (surprisingly enough). Mittfh (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  That section has been added since I made that comment, and I am bit concerned over its appropriateness for an encyclopaedic entry. This section seems to be based on the recommendations of one or more users, and given how many times its content has been changed recentley, its factual accuracy is very debatable. If a section on Windows Vista beyond the system specs given by the game developers is going to be in the article it should be reliably sourced, otherwise I am going take out this section, as it compromises the rest of the article. Camaron | Chris (talk) 16:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vista 

message: I noticed that the image is reversed, but have no idea how to go about replacing an image. Not only would flipping it horizontally allow the railway sign to be read, but would give a thumbs up to the seeming theme for every shot on the page (sloping downward from left to right).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.224.122.23 (talk) 03:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image accomp. 'Third party add-ons' section 

message: I just created my account today and please forgive me if I put this in the wrong section.
A group of Simtropolis members are working on an open source version of SimCity 4. They are building it from scratch despite desires to work with the SC4 source code. Should it be mentioned in this article? Should there be an article on Simtropolis 1000 (the name of their project/game)? Should said article wait to be made until ST1000 is finished Azemocram (talk) 05:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing to look at is if it is notable. Are any of the people famous, has it got backing of famous people, is it in the mainstream media etc... I am guessing that it isn't yet notable and as such wouldn't be suitable for inclusion.-Localzuk(talk) 16:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Well if it becomes notable then the game should simply have its own article, with maybe a mention in this article if sourcing clearly presents it as based on SimCity 4. Camaron | Chris (talk) 18:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simtropolis 1000 

message: Did the game win any major awards, such as "Game of the Year" or "Best Strategy Game" from a major game reviewer like IGN or GameSpot? If so, please include it in the Reception section, especially since some reviewers gave some very positive reviews to the game. Gary King (talk) 17:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After a search I have found SimCity 4 was runner-up at IGN PC's Best of E3 2002 Awards , winner of IGN January 2003 Editors' Choice award , and also a Prestigious Parents' Choice Gold Award winner . I have not found any others yet. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have added them. Gary King (talk) 19:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did SimCity 4 win any major awards? 

message: I don't think the Joseph Knight that the Designers link links to is the Joseph Knight who worked on this game.  Perhaps the link should be removed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.94.117.191 (talk) 19:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No probably not given that this person appears to have died 200 years before this game was released, I have removed the link. Thanks for the heads up. Camaron | Chris (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Designers 

message: As a member in Simtropolis, it is worth noting that there has been a large number of community interest that, like NASCAR Racing 2003 Season, it has allowed SimCity 4 to succeed reasonably well beyond its shelf life. Any thoughts? --Marianian (talk) 18:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Community Interest in SimCity 4 

message: Is there going to be another simcity (e.g. simcity 5) or are there any plans to make a new one please respond if you know 91.104.113.103 (talk) 14:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note this is not a forum for general discussion about SimCity 4, it is supposed to be about improving the article. You would probably get a better answer to your question by going to SimCity 4 fansites such as Simtropolis. Camaron | Chris (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: SimCity 5