Talk:MapleStory/Archive 7

message: :1. Well written? Fail
:2. Factually accurate? Pass
:3. Broad in coverage? Fail
:4. Neutral point of view? Pass
:5. Article stability? Pass
:6. Images? Fail
Additional comments :
* No image states its fair use rationale though they should.
* Various words such as NPC, RPG aren't defined though they should. It is also badly in need of wikilinks.
* This The minimum possible point level scored when the dice is rolled in a statistic is four and the maximum is thirteen. When creating the character, the player can also choose from a limited variety of faces, hair styles, hair colors and skin colors. These can be modified only through the purchase of special coupons from the Cash Shop. needs a citation.
* During the earlier levels, only a few minutes or hours of gameplay are required to level up. The higher a character's level becomes, the more experience points one needs to level up. This means that the higher a character's level gets the more time it takes to gain a level. When a character is level 70 or higher, it may take days or weeks to level up once.  is the same for every game, so it shouldn't be that long to explain ... it should be cut down or original research may come as a problem.
* From section Leveling up to Dying the article lacks citations and falls into an in-universe view of the game which is not acceptable for such an article. Many other sections fall into that category.
* Can Versions and registration be axed down for it is really unimportant.
* What about development, releases.
* What about the interface, innovations in the setup.
* What about earnings of the company making the game.
* The article should cut down on the gameplay, story.
Lincher 02:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA failed

message: 楓故事 is not the general nickname in Japan. It is no more than a name of one fan sight or the information sight.
:Isn't 楓故事 kanji for MapleStory. And how come OMS appears in both kMS and gMS nickname section?Lancerex6 01:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: JMS isn't the first maplestory and KMS is. JMS is the second maplestory. -       wkkim9292 01:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicknames(楓故事) 

message: This arcticle is just too long.  I think that new arcticles entitled maplestory gameplay and maplestory items should be added.  This is too in depth for a general game arcticle.  However still keep in mind that this is not a game strategy guide.
Redskunk 00:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lists of items have, traditionally, been deleted (see, for example: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of weapons in Halo 2) so I would highly recommend against it. I would, however, suggest summarizing the gameplay section, as it is somewhat sprawling. Nifboy 06:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting Arcticle 

message: http://msfantasy.ioio.tw/ - A fan site for TaiwanMS, recently added info for Zipangu, and they did not include the Showa Mansion maps, nor the NPC that takes you to the Mansion. But they do show the mansion maps on http://msfantasy.ioio.tw/images/map/jp/all.PNG , but I don't understand what the pink box and pink text say. Also the bamboo forest (chungoo boss area) maps are in a pink box on that picture. -- Takiten 20:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand Chinese or Taiwanese but I'm sure that TaiwanMS has Showa Mansion maps and Chungoo boss area because, in TaiwanMS official page, it shows anego(female boss) and a monster which is from Chungoo boss area in the main page. - wkkim9292 01:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does TaiwanMS have Showa Mansion? 

message: this template is orignally for maplestory worlds/character classes/game issues but all 3 article got deleted. now there's just 1 link to MapleStory DS which is already mention in the see also. other then that are 3 strategywiki links which are already mention in the article. this template just looks ugly and takes up space. 121.6.81.117 06:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove the bottom template 

message: Vandalism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sdhonda (talk • contribs) 11:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has been proposed for deletion? 

message: There was a snippet about the MapleSEA site not working with browsers other than IE. I myself view it from firefox, so I changed is. Shmirlywhirl 22:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the criticism section 

message: I was hearing that Maple story Taxes its players when buying items and stuff
Can a player that has bought stuff verify this? and if so is it possable to make a refrance to the virtual tax article 
thanksMaverick423 17:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The tax is applied when trading.  If the meso traded is more that 50k, a 0.5% (I think, needs verification) of the mesos "disappears".  The percentage increased with the amount of mesos traded.  It's supposed to fight inflation or something. -- Prod-You 18:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The VT seems a bit different.  In MS, the tax just disappears.  But from what I understand from that article, the government wants real world money from the trades.  I think it's slightly different, but I don't totally understand the VT... Also, please remember to sign your comments with ~~~~. -- Prod-You 21:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The Tax is on in game items only, not cash items. It basically removes a portion of the mesos transferred from the economy entirely. They no longer exist. It's not going to the government. I don't think this fits into that article, in this case. I do think it's worth mentioning in the MS article that the tax from purchases in player shops bought from the Cash Shop is lower.Lunatio 15:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, there's a constant influx of money into the MMO economy, however mesos are removed via NPC purchases, though the frequency of this decrease as you progress through the game and the prices of items are usually fairly low in comparison to the amount present. Lunatio 15:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget about pots. At high levels, pot consumption may cost even more than equipments. And most pot money fell back to NPC. OhanaUnited 09:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virtual Tax 

message: I think Maple needs partial protection. If u look at the recent articles, there's so much vandalism and blanking. I might be wrong, but if we protect the page for a while, the vandalism will die down. Most of the vandals are ip addresses. With a few exceptions. Then again, the situation might not be serious enough for protection... --|K.Z|Z.K|  Do not vandalize... 08:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection?

message: I predicted someone would change the Criticism section so it would say that IE for mac users CAN access the MapleStory Global website. I have proof that it doesn't:
--ÆAUSSIEevilÆ 00:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the old workaround still works with ie mac though.  Try disabling javascript, and it might let you through -- Prod-You 01:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IE for Mac proof 

message: What is this game built on? Java? C++? C?...? 69.236.96.43 23:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Either C or C++. --Teggles 01:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't be too sure, but some files that are associated with the game seem to be written with MS VC++ (the patcher, the setup program and a few others).  I can't directly check the exe because they use ASProtect on it (some kind of protection program). -- Prod-You 05:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is it built on?

message: new in maple global a orbis guild pq has been added i havnt explored it myself but its there i can't wait
and guilds 
the best guild is isleep in broa fear it
      The guild pq is in perion, not orbis just to let ya know =)
Someone's just confused and mixed things up. There's a PARTY QUEST in Orbis (for some versions) and a GUILD QUEST in Perion.
OhanaUnited 17:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  guild pq in orbis 

message: A little while ago (I don't remember how long ago) I suggested that maplenoobs.com be added to the list of links. I was told that it had to become widely used before it would be added. I believe with the amount of hits it recieves daily, it may be considered "widely used" by now. If not, I'd appreciate someone clarify how popular it needs to be. I'd really love to see the site added since I think it can actually make a difference in the gameplay of GMS. --TinDragon 19:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.maplenoobs.com/ is the website.  I would say it's fairly notable (among MS fansites), at least according to alexa.  So, is it worth adding to the page is the question.  So far, most of the links provide information about the game, though this is for people who use the game.  I guess it kinda shows the MS users desperation when it comes to hack users, but it doesn't really provide information for non-gamers. -- Prod-You 21:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The site has been in direct contact with the MapleStory administrations and Nexon. the admin NXJoeW made visits to some of the more prominent maple sites, to get in more with the users. i think that makes it an important site, since they visited every other one listed there. However, i've never visited myself... IsaacGS 03:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. Many users, including me, never heard of such a site. MapleTip's wiki is much more popular than this MapleNoobs. It lacks of a lot of contents too (other than about hacking users). OhanaUnited 03:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cancel this original message, thought you were talking about something else. xD However, MapleTip has chosen to link to MapleNoobs instead of using it's original hacker tracker. I'd think that holds a little meaning at least. :P --TinDragon 19:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Don't add it. Pretty much unknown by the common player, and even users of MapleStory forums. The Captain Returns 22:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MapleNoobs... again. 

message: Someone vandalized this entire section, and I cannot find the point in the history where it was done to revert it. Can someone either revert or fix it please? --TinDragon 19:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah. I saw it and it took me a while to find it, but i reverted it. it was a template, so it's not in the history.IsaacGS 03:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: That wasn't exactly what I was talking about, but now that you pointed that out I took a better look at it, and I think I like this format better. ^^ --TinDragon 18:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the link to go to the page that edits version content? I tried to go there but can't find the page. OhanaUnited 18:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the page you want is "Template:MapleStory Versions content". TinDragon 20:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions and registration 

message: Just wanna say, my bad on the inclusion of GPQ in that one section. As I understood it previously it would have been a PQ, but I went in today. Only got to the Statue part, but that was enough to tell it was more of a "guild" than "party" thing. So again, sorry 'bout that. :P --TinDragon 03:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guild Party Quest 

message: Ok, im a wiki noob ok? Im sorry if I put this in the wrong section =(
Lately, ive been noticing that whinney global players are complaining that maplesea is "so much better" than maple global. In fact, some people even go the the extreme of migrating from global to sea. I dont know if my idea is stupid, but I think you should add the fact that there are alot of imature global players migrating to sea just because there are supposedly "more areas" in msea.
Sources are: common knowledge. Im a basil user, and people on the forums as well as players in global are complaining that global is lower than sea. Consider posting this please, thanx =) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.11.143 (talk) 06:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People talking about what they will do, and what's actually happening don't always match up.  People aren't going to abandon their high level characters on global that easily.  -- Prod-You 17:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GMS players migrating to SEA 

message: Don't you think saying that there are 50 million players is quite unrealistic/misleading?
It's quite hard to understand how you're trying to use it, does it mean that there are 50 million combined players ATM, or throughout the whole time its been around? could you just change it to something like "There are currently 50 million players who use the current versions."?--124.152.20.8 21:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw this mentioned in an archive. 50 million is the total amount of accounts on the servers. Apparently, Wikipedia won't let you estimate lower because that is the actual amount of accounts, even though almost everyone has more than one. --TinDragon 01:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read this section "Are there any MMORPGs..." on top of this section. It explains everything and I don't want to go over it again. OhanaUnited 09:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  50 Million? 

message: Shouldn't Drake Area, Cold Cradle, and Drake's Nest be added to the Versions Content => Area Availability chart? GMS has them from .33, but it appears SEA doesn't have them. Not sure about any of the other versions though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scriptdaemon (talk • contribs) 00:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We origionally had it on there, but it got removed some time ago for some unknown reason. I added it again. -- Takiten 03:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drake related maps. 

message: I would like to take a minute of my time to introduse new characters to mapleSEA to the Shang-Hai map i would also like to know if this is on other versions to get to Shang-Hai you need one 1,500 mesos and a way to Kerning city the problem about Shang-Hai is that it is exclusivley high level and many of the weapons cost above 20,000 mesos. I took my time to tell many about this section of the game to warn and explain the caution of this area. The map starts in central area and goes to the right once the other way will take you to various *i dont know how much* areas with monsters like ducks rams sheeps monkeys and cows. If u need extra help contact me on my account i am roxus c ya then. ~wesley noobie 9:40 Feb 19 2007
:Thanks for taking the time to help newbies, but I don't think this is the place to do it, as seen at the top of this talk page: this page is not a strategy guide or an instruction manual. If you would like to know information of the game, a good place to look would be the article itself (the specific piece of information you want is listed a bit under here._ -- Tydus Arandor 04:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shang-Hai 

message: The new version is harder to read and it is less attractive than the pervious version with the checks and the x's. I don't know what the person was thinking when they changed this. I would change it myself, but I simply don't know how. Can someone please show me how to change it or roll it back to the previous version? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cuongdawg (talk • contribs) 02:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, it makes it much more organized now, and much easier to update it. I say leave it as-is.☒ TinDragon (User Page | Talk Page)
My question is, what to do once EuroMS starts picking up areas like Omega sector, so that the Area is now in every version of MapleStory. Do we remove that Area from the Chart? Or does it remain, with a yes in every box until some other new version sprouts..? IsaacGS 00:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's why there's no Mapld Island or Victoria Island on the chart because every version has it. OhanaUnited 02:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions/Content Chart 

message: I don't have MSEA so I can't say anything specific other than what I read in the changelog, but should this be added to the quest area in the content chart, or is this tied in with the legendary spirit skill? Scriptdaemon 22:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is tied with the Legendary Spirit Skill, which is already on the chart. -- Takiten 20:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eurek quest? 

message: The entire page was deleted by The great rising sun. I reverted it. The guy seems to have done other vandalisms on Wiki. ~Entegy 01:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He got blocked. But wait until he creates another account and start vandlising again... OhanaUnited 17:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: This article says that the french client isnt available. Since the latest patch, the french client is now up!
just felt like pointing that out for ya ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.11.143 (talk) 02:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed it, Thanks for pointing that out. - Wkkim9292 03:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Client available 

message: :This discussion applies to all of the PC MapleStory articles (1, 2, 3)
These articles, however many pictures they may have at the moment, are still lacking some key screenshots that I believe would illustrate the certain sections of the articles much better. There are also some pictures that I think could be replaced with better or more informing ones. Feel free to add to the list what you want, and if you'd like to contribute screenshots yourself (which would be greatly appreciated), check out Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org). Be bold. The Captain Returns 00:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So, this is how it would work; five pictures of the same character, white background, horizontally aligned, maybe with the job advancement typed in a caption underneath each one, somewhat like this. In the beginner one, it would show the character's default beginner clothing, in the first job picture, it would show the character with 1st job armor, etc. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: This picture shows pretty much everything it should, attack animation, damage, and experience being gained. It would be even better cropped though. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think any of these need cropping.  They look fine the way they are. -- Prod-You 23:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I see what you mean.  I'm removing the following images, since I don't think they add anything. -- Prod-You 04:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture Requests/Edits/Removals 

message: *Character at Beginner 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th job.
:So, this is how it would work; five pictures of the same character, white background, horizontally aligned, maybe with the job advancement typed in a caption underneath each one, somewhat like this. In the beginner one, it would show the character's default beginner clothing, in the first job picture, it would show the character with 1st job armor, etc. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture Requests

message: :This picture shows pretty much everything it should, attack animation, damage, and experience being gained. It would be even better cropped though. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think any of these need cropping.  They look fine the way they are. -- Prod-You 23:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested Picture Edits

message: Most of them. In particular, the cropped screenshots (Leveling up, dead character, monsters and boss, and the inventory window) seem to miss the "big picture" both literally and figuratively. Turok: Dinosaur Hunter is a good illustration of how images are best used. Nifboy 03:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean.  I'm removing the following images, since I don't think they add anything. -- Prod-You 04:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested Picture Removals