Talk:Conservatism in North America

message: Conservatism in North America varies in form from country to country, but is consistent in its attempt to preserve heritage and tradition. Academic study into the differences and similarities between conservatism in North American countries has been undertaken on numerous occasions. For three days in May of 2002, a conference was held at the University of Augsburg which was dedicated to this very topic.[1] There were two main concepts discussed at the conference. The first concept was the connection between the brand of conservatism arising in the 1980s and the 1990s and social democracy. The second concept was simply an exploration of the differences and similarities between conservatism in Canada and the United States. Some feminist scholars have suggested that the prevalence of conservatism throughout North America has resulted in the continent's general post-feminist stance.[2] Reginald Bibby has asserted that the primary reason that conservatism has been so strong and enduring throughout North America is because of the propogation of religious values from generation to generation. This connection is strongest in mainstream Protestantism in the United States and both Protestantism and Roman Catholicism in Canada.[3]
Note - differences from first version are in italics.  The Four Deuces (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead - second version

message: I don't think there is any objection to an article titled Conservatism in North America.  The problem is that we haven't got a good article with that title, and to write a good article on the subject would require a great deal of expertise and a great deal of time and effort.  Few people are apt to search on Conservatism in North America, and the redirect gets those few started on at least one North American country. 
I, for one, have no objection to the redirect pointing to Conservatism, if anybody wants that. Rick Norwood (talk) 19:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bad article is NOT better than no article at all. 

message: Redirecting articles because you don't like them is not a way of editing in a civilized manner assuming good faith.  If you can't establish consensus here there are recognised avenues to achieve dispute resolution. Please cease non-consensus edit warring. This matter is being discussed at Wikipedia:EAR#First_time_assistance_request. Please discuss this there or start an AfD or post a merge proposal rather than deleting content. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually Neely changed a re-direct page into a separate article because he did not like the article it re-directed to and I merely reverted it back.  The Four Deuces (talk) 03:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note re reversions 

message: This article should not exist because it violates overcategorization:
:Geographical boundaries may be useful for dividing subjects into regions that are directly related to the subjects' characteristics... In general, avoid subcategorizing subjects by geographical boundary if that boundary does not have any relevant bearing on the subjects' other characteristics.
Unless some reason can be found to keep this article I will revert it back to a redirect page.
The Four Deuces (talk) 14:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It has already been agreed that the former redirect is not appropriate. If anyone objects to the existence of this article, he or she should start a deletion discussion. This has already been pointed out by :User:Jezhotwells above. Neelix (talk) 21:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Overcategorization

message: "North America, third largest continent ... usually considered to include all the lands and adjacent islands in the Western Hemisphere located N of the Isthmus of Panama." -- The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia. Also see: The World Almanac, maps. Rick Norwood (talk) 19:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of North America 

message: I added a new first paragraph to the lead.  The Four Deuces (talk) 00:42, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're going to reword the lead paragraph that's fine (if you do break it up; it's huge right now); I also see your point about it having issues. But you can't put a non-lead paragraph at the top. It's got to have an introduction, some context (leads especially need to be as neutral as possible), and then transition into the main body. It needs to conform to WP:LEAD. After a week it didn't look like it was getting cleaned up, so I swapped those first two paragraphs. Shadowjams (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead - new paragraph 

message: An editor changed the text saying Canada was a "constitutional monarchy" to saying it was a "federal monarchy."  The linked article provides a definition from a book published in 1863 - a federation of monarchial states.  While one could argue that each Canadian province is a monarchy and they are federated into one country, the use of the term is obscure and there is no source provided that calls Canada that.  The source for the term was published before the Canadian confederation was established and does not mention Canada.
Also, the editor changed "Conservative Party of Canada" to "Conservative Party"  The first is their legal name and it avoids confusion because there is also an unaffiliated "British Columbia Conservative Party."
TFD (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good edit.Rick Norwood (talk) 18:37, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Federal monarchy

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