Talk:Jesus walking on water

message: This is my first eentry to wikipedia so i dont know the format of entering information but i have something important to say shouldn't this article include the fact that there has been discovered a huge pile of rocks very almost reaching the surface of that particular sea, heres my reference: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/04/10/mysterious-stone-structure-discovered-beneath-sea-galilee/) I-copeland (talk) 14:02, 29 September 2013‎
:I'm not sure this discovery has anything to do with the page unless you are implying this is what Jesus walked on. It would be an interesting coincidence, for those that believe the event is historical, for the rocks to be exactly where he walked. Of course, since the Bible doesn't specify an exact area that He met up with the boat, we of course couldn't connect the two. Also since the Bible says he started out from the shore and walked on the Sea out to the boat, the discovered structure couldn't explain Jesus walking on the water since the structure doesn't also extend from the shore. Ckruschke (talk) 17:53, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't say how near the surface it is, & I think the Sea of Galilee is a lot smaller & shallower now than then. Johnbod (talk) 20:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Another good point. Ckruschke (talk) 17:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Discovery

message: Since this article is discussing a passage from the Bible it should reflect the wording of the Bible and not change what is says to suit current ways of thinking. In particular the the term "Jesus walks on water" is nowhere found in the English Bible's source language, Greek. Most English translations that I am aware of reflect the distinction between sea and water in translating the original. In all passages found in the Greek text where this event in discussed there is a distinction made between Peter walking on water and Jesus walking on the sea (θαλασσης). In the same passage it says the boat was in the midst of the sea (θαλασσης) not water. That the Greek term can be used for a relatively larger body of water is irrelevant since the text uses this terminology over and over in many contexts. The text records in the words of people living at that time that the body of water in which the boat was sailing was called a sea (θαλασσης). The term "Sea of Galilee" (θαλασσαν της γαλιλαιας) is commonly used in the Bible text elsewhere. Those trying to read θαλασσαν as water are making an anachronistic reading of the text to suit a certain viewpoint, that the writers were in correctly using the term sea as it is understood 2000 years later. Also other wikipedia articles refer to the Sea of Galilee, not the water of Galilee.. The article title and internal references should be changed to "Jesus walking on the sea" from "Jesus walking on water" to reflect what the subject matter and the text being discussed actually says.
Kellnerp (talk) 03:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: See at least one previous discussion here. These clearly established consensus that "water" is the most common usage, and the one we should use. Note tthat we should generally follow secondary sources rather than primary ones. Johnbod (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: water vs sea