Talk:Matrix of Leadership

message: Alpha Trion, the 'old man' transformer who was Optimus Prime's mentor was his predecessor in the line of the Matrix, this is clearly shown in the episode where Prime comes back to life and uses the Matrix to wipe out the plague that affects the entire universe, Prime converses with Trion inside the matrix.
"The Matrix was also included in the Japanese-only Masterpiece Ultra Magnus redeco of the toy, but it could not be opened."
Unless this was intended to be a joke at Magnus's expense, I beg to differ.  The Matrix inside my Masterpiece Ultra Magnus opens perfectly well, and infact appears indistinguisable to the one in my 20th Anniversary Prime, aside from a lighter gold on the casing around the gem.--TheTurnipKing 21:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: "Galvatron (Any attempt to use the Matrix has met with failure)"
This is clearly POV.  The same could be said of Ultra "I can't lead the autobots out of a paper bag" Magnus, but it isn't mentioned in the entry.  --66.216.68.28 20:32, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: anti-Decepticon bias

message: "The Answer.com page you sourced was just quoting Wikipedia. Try again. The Clawed One 16:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops... I missed that aspect. I had read a more recent version of that Wiki page and so it sounded different (cause it was). My mistake. (I knew it couldn't be that easy to find...) VigilancePrime 16:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I honestly don't understand why you two cannot accept that you cannot win this. An Admin himself removed the information and agreed with my reasons for such an edit. Does that not mean a thing to you guys? The Clawed One 16:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Absolutely. If you have a viable source providing the comparison, go nuts. I have no problem admitting when I've been wrong.
As a note, though, IMDB isn't a good source. Most of the data there is user submitted and not reliable. The Clawed One 16:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: self-reference

message: : So, I've been away from this article for awhile... real life, Capybara, Oozlefinch and the like having taken my WikiTime. Anyway, I made a couple minor copyedits but had a question for the masses...
: With the recent name change, I noticed the line in the article - one which I accurately added a long time agi IIRC - which stated, "The first appearance of the Creation Matrix, later also known as the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, was in Marvel's Transformers comicsMarvel (US) Comics, Transformers issue #10, page 2, panel 3" If the first use of this article's subject were as the Creation Matrix, and that really started this whole thing, shouldn't that be the name of the article with Matrix of Leadership redirecting there instead?
: Food for thought (and consensus) from someone who actually has the complete 80-issue series (and the 4 GI Joe crossover issues, and the 4 Headmaster crossover issues). VigilancePrime (talk) 03:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, the concept of "Creation Matrix" predates "Autobot Matrix of Leadership". But I think using "Matrix of Leadership" as the article's title is okay because the term "Matrix of Leadership" is much more frequently used. --TX55 (talk) 07:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome back (to me)