Talk:Hypernymy and hyponymy

message: === Typo & Link Suggestion ===
concerning: 
 In his classic formulation, the linguist C.E. Bazell stated, "There is a relation of hyponymy when one word may invariable be replaced by a second word, but not vice-versa, without change of meaning." 
i assume 'invariable' is meant to be 'invariably', especially considering the source of the quote is a linguist.  
as an aside, i think hyponymy describes a non-commutative synonymy between two words. (e.g., i could use "temperature" in place of "fever" everytime, but not "fever" in place of "temperature" everytime. e.g., "he shouldn't exhaust himself because of his 'fever'." can be expressed (albeit less specifically) as "he shouldn't exhaust himself because of his 'temperature'.") so, a link to "commutivity" or the like may be good for this reason.
Factotum 04:59, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: hyponym talk

message: concerning: 
 In his classic formulation, the linguist C.E. Bazell stated, "There is a relation of hyponymy when one word may invariable be replaced by a second word, but not vice-versa, without change of meaning." 
i assume 'invariable' is meant to be 'invariably', especially considering the source of the quote is a linguist.  
as an aside, i think hyponymy describes a non-commutative synonymy between two words. (e.g., i could use "temperature" in place of "fever" everytime, but not "fever" in place of "temperature" everytime. e.g., "he shouldn't exhaust himself because of his 'fever'." can be expressed (albeit less specifically) as "he shouldn't exhaust himself because of his 'temperature'.") so, a link to "commutivity" or the like may be good for this reason.
Factotum 04:59, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo & Link Suggestion 

message: ===opening line===
The opening line "A hypernym is a word whose extension includes the extension of the word of which it is a hypernym."... what the hell does that mean? That's like "Red is the colour which red objects can be said to have" or "The north is the place to the north of an understood location"... 
Imĵalo
I'm quite certain that the automobile and vehical example is backwards.... Hopefully someone agrees with me and can confirm that and change it. I'm not confident enough to change it.
=== Greek word ===
According to the article for -onym linked from this article, "hypernym" is an "incorrectly formed neologism".  Based on that and what I do know about Greek etymology, the listed Greek word υπερνύμιον should not exist.  Tsunomaru 02:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: hypernym talk

message: According to the article for -onym linked from this article, "hypernym" is an "incorrectly formed neologism".  Based on that and what I do know about Greek etymology, the listed Greek word υπερνύμιον should not exist.  Tsunomaru 02:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek word 

message: The standard quick definition of "vehicle" is something with wheels... so a ship is not a vehicle. Is a dogsled, used in the example, a vehicle? Or is it a conveyance but not a vehicle? Monado (talk) 10:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Article talk pages are for discussion of improvement of the respective articles. This isn't a forum. Ilkali (talk) 11:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And the question is about the accuracy of something stated in the article. — trlkly 04:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  vehicles 

message: The article "umbrella term" is introduced with: An umbrella term is a word that provides a superset or grouping of related concepts, also called a hypernym, where hypernym links to this page (hyponymy). Well, if they are synonymous, as this indiciates, then why should there be two different articles? Then there's blanket term, which I also find difficult to distinguish from umbrella term. I propose that either:
# The articles are merged into one, being descriptions of the same concept; or
# The articles are kept separate, but clearly stating how they differ and relate to the other terms. 
I'm leaning towards #1, but I'm no linguist. /skagedal... 13:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Another option could be to merge blanket term and umbrella term, but leave hyponymy separate as the technical, linguistic term for this.  LinguistAtLarge  17:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: *I agree with this. Umbrella term and blanket term are basically the same thing. Hyponymy is different precisely because it is a technical term. bd2412 T 05:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

text: * Don't merge, per LinguistAtLarge. As suggested, the difference should be described in the articles. --Vsion (talk) 18:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

text: ** closing discussion with consensus to keep the hyponymy article. ps: i believe "blanket term" can be considered a hyponym to "hyponymy" - all blanket terms are hyperonyms, but all hyperonyms are not blanket terms. k kisses 19:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Superordinate redirects to Hyponymy, but there is no mention of superordinate in the Hyponymy article. Please define superordinate and its relationship to hyponymy. 204.210.242.157 (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The repair of that egregious redirection has been begun as i write, and will shortly be completed by its conversion to a Dab.--Jerzy•t 16:30, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does superordinate mean?  

message: My students revised this page for a course (HG2052: Language, Technology and the Internet) and I am adding a couple of comments as the final review. Francis Bond (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brief Review  

message: "hyponyms in verbs are words that refer to a broad category of actions" seems to me to be the opposite of what is the case, "hypernyms in verbs are words that refer to a broad category of actions".  This seems like a typo, but I'm not an expert in linguistics, a field where the terminology is a bit tricky.--Wcoole (talk) 00:19, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verb typo? 

message: The current example diagram for Colors indicates that Crimson is a hyponym of Purple not (explicitly) of Red. However, the color crimson is often considered a type of the color red -- Crimson "Crimson is a strong, red color, inclining to purple. ...".   Perhaps the P. R. Nelson Estate is laying the groundwork for a bequest to the Universities of Alabama or Harvard?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFE9:E0:C090:E369:53FA:F6D3 (talk) 00:19, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problematic Example Diagram? 

message: Hyponymy is the study of hyponyms but also the creation of them, hyponymification focuses more on their creation than their generic analysis.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:8227:A300:8DA3:34C2:25F3:9936 (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  hyponymy vs hyponymification 

message: This sentence in the second paragraph confuses me: 'A synonym of co-hyponym based on same tier (and not hyponymic) relation is allonym (it means different name).' I suspect there is a better way to punctuate or re-word this sentence, but I’m new to this subject and not certain enough to do it. Pythagimedes (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A synonym of co-hyponym (?) 

message: Positive comes first; negative comes second. Big comes first, small comes second. The positive and negative charges might be arbitrary (not entirely because the nucleus is more important), but the philosophical senses of bigness and positivity come first.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:8240:8C00:C133:C3E3:5082:8070 (talk) 20:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In the "correct title," the first word should be spelled correctly as Hyperonymy. PlaysInPeoria (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong title, correct: [[Hypernymy and hyponymy]]