Talk:New Culture Movement

message: I support the expansion of the present New Culture article, in fact, a whole new article, not simply moving the one short paragraph from the May Fourth article. ch (talk) 06:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Culture Movement expansion 

message: To promote this idea, I have composed a new and more detailed lead. CAn we fill out the article to covers the topics I mention? 75.4.146.134 (talk) 06:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Lead paragraph

message: I believe there should be a section on dissent/opposition to the New Culture Movement on a whole.  Xiong Shili was quite vocal in opposing the movement, and for 2 generations, overseas Chinese communities and Chinese in Taiwan and Hong Kong were deeply influenced by the scholarship of Chien Mu who, by the time of his death in 1990, was the last living prominent Chinese intellectual completely rejecting the merits of the movement.  
Even though after the lifting of the martial law in Taiwan of 1987, the voices opposing the New Culture Movement were marginalized in Taiwan with the lifting of a ban of mainland Chinese scholarship's distributions in Taiwan, there are still many voices disputing the movement on a fundamental level.  From a academic perspective, Hsu Cho-yun (Xu Zhuoyun), Professor Emeritus of the University of Pittsburgh, disputes the standards of contemporary use of Chinese language because of a lack of education and training in Classical Chinese, and calls it a "A cultural crisis that is a 'mission impossible' to remedy" in a newspaper opinion piece and traces its source to the New Cultural Source in the same article (United Daily, June 1999, Taiwan).  Likewise on a popular history level, To Kit also disputes the movement on similar grounds.--JNZ (talk) 05:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposition  

message: Recent edits have sought to change a summary of historians' assessments - which is well referenced - according to the editor's apparent personal assessment. Please don't do that. Mozzy66 (talk) 12:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your suggestion, which probably refers to my recent edits. Maybe you could expand a little, since I'm not sure whether the problem is that the edits are "personal" or ... what? I appreciate your saying that the summary was "well referenced," since I was the one who supplied them. But I think that you are right that the section could be better spelled out, and I tried to improve it with more references which are not "personal." Please let me know if this is what you have in mind. ch (talk) 01:14, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi ch. Actually I was referring to the edits by HypatiaPrometheus. From what I tell, your changes all seem to be good expansions of this article - thanks for doing that! Cheers, Mozzy66 (talk) 11:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Thanks -- sometimes a comment like yours gets good results because of those famous "unintended consequences"!  Maybe we should post random "please clean up this article" comments and see what happens. ch (talk) 18:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits of Evaluation section 

message: For my first edit, I added some more detail as to how Chen Duxiu contributed to the emergence of the New Culture Movement, as well as adding the English pronunciation in the article text directly to add more clarity. There seems to be multiple references to his contributions, but no clear introductory statement of his connection to the movement.
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Mjwng (talk) 00:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chen Duxiu, Hu Shih, Shenbao