Talk:Rockstar (drink)

message: Can someone verify?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbspewackshead (talk • contribs) 01:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Energy drink of paul revere society?

message: Just because I felt like trying something different, I went to pick up some energy drinks and I grabbed a can of Rockstar. I searched the can for any indications of what flavor I should expect, but it didn't mention anything. So I went here hoping that it would mention what flavor I had bought, sill didn't mention anything. So I figured I'd describe the flavor, and maybe somebody can work it into the article. Anyway, I'd describe the flavor [of the origional, in the black can] like liquid nerds [which is really just condensed sugar with artifical fruit flavors], really tangy and kind of sweet, but it's got a sour aftertaste, then after a minute or two it tastes like you just ate a box of nerds. ARBlackwood 00:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: couldn't disagree more.  I can't stand juiced 76.102.183.62 (talk) 14:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of the talk page is to talk about the article, not the subject of the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.99.53 (talk) 02:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Flavor

message: I was wondering if, Russell Goldencloud Weiner is in any part related to Rockstar Video Game company as well as the drink company. The actual article about Rockstar game mentions nothing of the individuals who devolped the company so I really couldn't find anything out from here. I'm googling it right now but since I'm at a public school they block almost anything to do with video games because "Violence" and "Naughty Words" are bad and cause "A surge in youth violence" so I probally won't discover anything before then. So please post if you know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.144.44.21 (talk • contribs) 15:08, December 14, 2005  (UTC)
:I too am curious if this beverage company is affiliated with the software developer. --NEMT 17:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This question may seem stupid but I'm still curious. 

message: ROCKSTAR Energy Drink is not affiliated with the video game. There is a mutual agreement in place that the video game company will not manufacture energy drinks and the energy drink company will not start to produce software.
MARCisaROCKSTAR 21:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nope. 

message: Can someone get a source for the comment that was put on the article: "The drink itself fluoresces when exposed to UV light. It is also turns urine a neon green color."
I've deleted the urine comment because I think it was vandalism, but I can't prove the UV Light comment.
Any sources would be nice.
:I can confirm that drinking the non-flavored kind of rockstar (The basic black can Rockstar) will indead turn your urine a bright yellow color.  The Red (Pomegranate), Purple (Guava), and Blue (Zero Carb), will not do this, however.  --sumnjim talk with me·changes 13:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That proves nothing. No offense, but not everything fluoresces at the same wavelength. Take blood for example, it fluoresces in the visual spectrum. If you read just the abstract found here: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004ChOpL...2..160G you'll see so. Given that 10-400nm wavelengths are all in the UV range, and it could fluoresce in any part of the light spectrum, including both UV and infrared, I have to question if you did a full experiment. I'm not arguing that we include anything about UV, just that given most UV lights are ~360nm and higher, and you only tested it on one type, there is no proof either way. 67.234.72.104 (talk) 09:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims 

message: I'm not sure the article needs a cleanup any longer, I've added a bit to it and added some citations.  I can find the bit about Gumball 3000 on Rockstar's news bar but unfrtunately the whole site is in flash so citing directly to that bit is impossible :(
Citation of further sources needed but I think the cleanup is done. Joncojonathan 17:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I've removed the following section, previously entitled "Affiliations", from the article:
My reasoning for this is that the section is a trivia section. It adds nothing to the article and a list of affiliations which are irrelevant to the drink. Imagine the Coca Cola article listing every organization and trivial group the company has sponsored. Instead, it mentions the advertising in prose and omits trivial details that this section is entirely composed of. Not to mention, only one of the affiliations has a citation. 高 03:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actuatlly that is very relivent information about the company. Both Red Bull [] and Monster Energy [] have information about their Sponsors and Endorsements. --Balancingact5k (talk) 17:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Affiliations 

message: I'm noticing that the article uses an attack site -- http://www.thetruthaboutrockstar.com -- as a citation.  Surely a better citation can be found?  69.137.130.101 (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious citation 

message: The title of the article is wrong. The Drink is Called "Rockstar Energy Drink"  not Rockstar.--Balancingact5k (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Title

message: Savage's son, Russell Goldencloud Weiner, is the co-founder and CEO and Savage's wife is the corporation's secretary and treasurer. As of June 2009, Rockstar, Inc. shares the same address with Savage Productions.
I challenge this part of the article because there is no connection between Savage Productions and Rockstar Inc. Further more Michael Savage has nothing to do with the company. There has been no citation or documentation stating that Michael Savage has anything to do with the Rockstar Inc. 
Therefore:
The information about the address is not cited and therefore not verifiable and needs to come down.
That information bares no relevance to the article as Michael Savage has nothing to do with Company and I challenge you to find any credible resource showing Michael Savage has affiliation to the company. Michael Savage Is not on the payroll. Michael Savage is not on the board of trustees. So on and so forth.
--Balancingact5k (talk) 19:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boycott Section needs editing 

message: In the late Spring of 2009, Savage hired lawyers for the purpose of distancing himself from any possible association with Rockstar.[citation needed] Rockstar ordered the take down of groups on Facebook critical of the connection to Savage.[21][16] Rockstar's legal team, Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP threatened legal action against Facebook user Charles Tsai[22] for creating a group called "Don't Drink Hate, BOYCOTT ROCKSTAR!,"[23] and later gaywired.com issued a partial retraction based on the issue.[24][25][26]
I have issues with this statement. 
 In the late Spring of 2009, Savage hired lawyers for the purpose of distancing himself from any possible association with Rockstar.[citation needed]
To the best of my knowledge, Savage has not retained lawyers to distance himself from Rockstar. Since this reference is not cited by a credible source or any source for that matter, then this statement should come down.  
Rockstar ordered the take down of groups on Facebook critical of the connection to Savage.[21][16] Rockstar's legal team, Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP threatened legal action against Facebook user Charles Tsai[22] for creating a group called "Don't Drink Hate, BOYCOTT ROCKSTAR!,"[23] and later gaywired.com issued a partial retraction based on the issue.[24][25][26]
Rockstar didn’t order or threaten anyone at Facebook. Rockstar cant order facebook. Facebook takes down pages that violate the Facebook user agreement. Furthermore, all the sites are anecdotal and I challenge the neutrality of their accusations. They are obviously supporters of the boycott and play a part in the advocacy of the boycott; plus, none of the sites have published Letters of Retractions that would have been given to them by Rockstar lawyers if in fact lawyers had approached them. Nor have these references shown any supporting evidence to their statements.  I thin these claim on these referenced sites are highly questionable.
Thanks for looking into this.--Balancingact5k (talk) 15:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawyers 

message: Rockstar is the subject of a boycott by part of the LGBT community because of the company's ties to the controversial conservative radio host Michael Savage (via his son Russell Goldencloud Weiner and wife Janet Weiner).[15][16][17][18][19] The boycott is motivated by claims that Michael Savage has made homophobic, racist, and discriminatory public statements. Savage's son, Russell Goldencloud Weiner, is the co-founder and CEO and Savage's wife is the corporation's secretary and treasurer.[20][21]
Th highlighted comment is redundant. The link that Russ is Savage's son is at the beginning of the paragraph and the it is mentioned that he is the CEO at the beginning of the article. Ditto that with Janet. Can I suggest we edit it like this:
Rockstar is the subject of a boycott by part of the LGBT community because of the company's ties to the controversial conservative radio host Michael Savage (via his son Russell Goldencloud Weiner, CEO and Savage's wife Janet Weiner, CFO). The boycott is motivated by claims that Michael Savage has made homophobic, racist, and discriminatory public statements.
 
This cleans up and clarify the statement.--98.151.5.63 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundant

message: I've added cleanup tags, overall I think it's a decent article, just needs a little cleanup. The lead happens to be most of the article, the sponsor table is horrible, there is a contradiction within (marked) that I don't want to intrude on. I'm wondering why there is a question mark after 2009, in the second sentence. The gallery of images should be split up into separate sections, or at least into a single section which describes each different variety. In either case, there are new varieties listed on the website. 67.234.72.104 (talk) 10:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tags 

message: i love rockstar so i added tables showing all the flavors and the drink size for those researching the drink itself  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaronrust (talk • contribs) 03:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  new drink table 

message: Probably the most important part of these articles on Energy drinks but I cannot find it.  The regular Rockstar drinks actually have *significantly* less caffeine than the lo-carb or diet versions.  Energyfiend.com (no idea how accurate they are) has a listing of caffeine content for various drinks, although they seem to be missing the diet rockstar one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.121.144 (talk) 17:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The sugar free one? I think it's the same as a Regular one. To be fair, Mountain Dew has more caffine than a Rockstar.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambiesushi (talk • contribs) 13:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

text: IP: you should research it and add it to the article yourself. --Psrq (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some clearly false info in the article regarding caffeine.  It says the shots have 32 mg, but clearly that's not true.  Also, I was going to add energyfiend as a source of caffeine info to the article, but only added a note in a source comment, as it turned out to be unreliable.   The huge tables seem like TMI to me, but I figure someone put the work into making 'em and they're bearable.  --Psrq (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caffeine Content???? 

message: Blogs, dead links and fringe opinions do not make for valid verifiable Reliable sources to support such defamatory claims. This section is a blatent WP:BLP Vio about Michael Savage.
:*http://gaywired.com/Article.cfm?Section=165&ID=23024
:::Dead link
:*https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=Hs3NHXPkcpAedi2tdvWCrw%253d%253d
:::Dead link
:* http://open.salon.com/blog/kelvin_lynch/2009/04/27/rockstar_energy_drink_founder_is_homophobe_and_racist_michael_savage
:::Nothing more than a press release about thetruthaboutrockstar.com and not a WP:RS
:*http://www.alternet.org/story/140554/alternet_takes_on_shock_jock_michael_savage_and_gets_threatened_with_a_lawsuit
:::Not a WP:RS nor is it independent of the subject ie '"Rockstar’s lawyers sent AlterNet a letter accusing us of defamation"..
:*http://www.thetruthaboutrockstar.com/
:::Fails as a WP:RS
:*http://www.i-newswire.com/rockstar-energy-drink-has-a-secret/a114679
:::This is by no means a valid source, Self published opinion/blog press by release by a fringe group (thetruthaboutrockstar.com).
References 19-25 do support inclusions of claims he is homophobic, racist, or otherwise. this violates WP:BLP. --Hu12 (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rockstar_(drink)#Boycott]] is a [[WP:BLP]] VIO 

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thread_title:  Fair use candidate from Commons: [[:File:Rockstar(boisson)-multiples.jpg]] 

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thread_title:  Fair use candidate from Commons: [[:File:Roskstar2.jpg]] 

message: I work as a sackboy at a local supermarket and found a new "Horchata" flavor that I thought needed to be added to the flavor list but as a new Wikipedia editor I have absolutely no idea how to do it. If a more experienced editor could please add this flavor to the list it would be greatly appreciated. 
Link: 
Richardkelley21 (talk) 05:11, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Drink Flavor 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Rockstar currently makes:
:Rockstar - Lime Freeze: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SJIEf0noM-I/maxresdefault.jpg
They discontinued:
:Rockstar Freeze - Frozen Lime: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/68094.jpg
Perhaps this is a different formula, but even if not - the can being different would still be of interest to collectors. 
--Wowaconia (talk) 20:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lime Freeze (active) vs Freeze - Frozen Lime (discontinued) 

message: The deletion of the list of products is unwarranted. 
*On claim that listing products of a company on that company's page is unencylopedic: 
Note the listing of products for Apple Inc. on their page []
*On claim that its just an advertisement for their products:
The list for Rockstar included historic information on products that they don't even sell anymore so the accusation is unsupported.
--Wowaconia (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this list is not encyclopedic.  The list is sourced entirely to the company's own webpage.  This differs with the Apple listing in several ways.  The list of Apple products does not include every single iteration of products listed, the list is sourced to reliable sources other than Apple, indicating that the products included in the list are notable, and the Apple products also include prose that give context to the the products and their impact on the industry and computing/consumer culture.  I agree there should be some Rockstar products listed, but at the macro level, not the micro.  78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:11, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is a much more reasonable listing, it is at the macro level, not micro.  I know how much hard work you put into building those tables, and I know tables are difficult in wikimarkup, but the current version dominates the page, and at such minute detail it comes across as spam even though that wasn't your intent.  78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:49, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Products 

message: Should we add that to the article and warn others not to drink it because it might be poison? Bod (talk) 21:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  this drink makes me feel sick