Talk:South West Trains

message: The lead image was previously a Class 170. This was replaced by withdrawnwith the comment
I have changed the picture of the train at the top of this article, because the old train shown was of a fleet which South West Trains are throwing out, and the new in service for forseeable future.
The new image referred to is of the single Class 960 (ex. Class 121) that SWT use for route learning. While this is undoubtedly a good photograph, it is not representative of the SWT fleet. The picture is in the fleet section, and it does belong there.
The lead image should illsutrate a typical and distinctive aspect of the article. For this reason I changed the picture to a Class 442 unit - which are used on the SWT Waterloo-Bournemouth-Weymouth route and are unique to the SWT franchise. I explained this in my edit summary:
change lead picture again. The Class 960 unit is used only for route learning, replaced with a Class 442 used on the mainline services to Weymouth
Without comment, the lead image was changed back to the Class 960 unit by withdrawn. So I have changed it back to the Class 442 with the edit summary 
change lead picture back to a Class 442 for the same reason as last time - see talk
I would like the comments of others regarding this. For full disclosure the Class 442 image used is a photograph I took. withdrawn took and uploaded the Class 960 image. Thryduulf 10:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the image should be of a more modern train; since the company have gone to such lengths to introduce new trains, we should show them rather than old stock. David Arthur 15:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I've reverted this as 455s aren't really exclusive to SWT, and a tight shot of a 442 didn't exactly say much other than letting the viewer see what the front end of a 442 looks like. I think that 450s at Waterloo are far more.. eh, as I said above. Iconic, like. Most SWT commuters don't commute on 442s, and the image of SWT is overwhelmingly as a commuter railway. Also, sign your comments, please. Four tildes, like this: --Mike 22:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead image

message: I have just cleaned up the desiro section of the article. I have...
*Removed stupid statement on the picture of 450 seats
*Put it in a better position with the other desiro photo, right at 200px
*& removed bad photo of the passenger information screen
I have to say the section is much better now. Lenny 11:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Messy Desiros & Bad Photos

message: Main picture reverted, better image, nicer look, a 5WES at Waterloo
*Kept the WES theme (though TBH I'm not fussed as long as something used in passenger service on the main line) - but changed it to a brighter and less gloomy picture that shows the livery better (for the title) - really the title picture should be something generic to show the livery and TOC rather then the train - Enotayokel 16:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture reverted! 

message: Copied from 94.'s page
I don't think the information should be added to South West Trains as it is effectively a new franchise, seperate from the old one. Anyway, the new information cannot be added to SW trains' article as it is going to be a new, different company. Simply south 18:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sout Western dates 

message: Some anon keeps changing "United Kingdom" to "England" as the name of the country SWT operates in. Please stop doing so, random anon. The National Rail network covers the whole of Great Britain, which includes Scotland and Wales as well as England. SWT's particular area of responsibility is mentioned further down. --Mike 02:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK vs England 

message: :Image:South West Trains logo.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:South West Trains logo.gif

message: The described Class 121 in the Current Fleet section is actually a Class 960, so i have changed it! Many Thanks ACBest 18:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class 121 → Class 960 

message: there should be a section on this. Simply south 21:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Island Line sub-brand 

message: :Image:Stagecoach Island line.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Stagecoach Island line.jpg

message: I've added a couple of citation needed tags to Criticisms section.  The only thing I could find was this article - and it doesn't mention the bit about bonuses:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1969212.ece  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabdiel (talk • contribs) 13:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation of Criticisms 

message: Would someone please have a look at the edit history of 79.72.28.96, both to SWT and to the Portsmouth Direct Line page?  To me, the edits look counter-productive.  If so, further effort may be needed to stop these edits.  David Biddulph (talk) 12:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by 79.72.28.96 

message: In the tickets section of the article it talks about smart tickets. It's not clear whether these are South West's own ones or whether they are Oyster cards. Can someone clarify? Imcdnzl (talk) 13:29, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: DONE That was my fault, I've clarified it now. --Wintonian (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smart tickets 

message: Requesting citation on some of the information in Ticketing, especially Platform Ticketing (I've put in a notice there)
89.168.108.163 (talk) 18:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: SWT's web site seem to contradict the information in the article see:  "Please note that you may require a platform ticket to allow access to platforms or you may be asked to sign in at gated stations." Shall we just remove the sub-section as it's not clear?--Wintonian (talk) 21:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed on a couple of ticketing sections 

message: There are images that take up virtually the entire width of the page. I also can't see any citations for these units entering service.85.210.144.225 (talk) 08:43, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: All complete nonsense: none of those trains is transferring to SWT. I have deleted them. -- Alarics (talk) 08:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearing up 

message: Should the Services section contain the service pattern table in the Routes section, and extra content on Mainline, Suburban and Other subsections? Mvpo666 (talk) 23:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request For Comment about the service pattern table and extra content 

message: A number of items have been added relating to rolling stock ordered by First/MTR for use under their South Western Railway franchise. These are nothing to do with South West Trains and don't belong on this page in my opinion.
The class 707 was at least ordered by South West Trains, even if they may never see service with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feathers44 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Western Railway 

message: There is no mention of SW Trains using any Class 153 trains in this article, but I notice a class 153 that has recently come into use on the Heart of Wales Line, painted in South West Trains livery.   Presumably it was used by South West Trains previously (and hence ought to feature in the rolling stock section of this article).   It was coupled to a 153 in Transport for Wales livery (replacing a train that normally consists of 2 Class 150 coaches).   If I see it again I'll see if I can get its TOPS number.   
  FreeFlow99 (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: SWT never had any 153s.  I think you'll find that the picture is of one of the four 153s transferred to TfW from East Midlands Trains. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks David for clearing up that mystery.   South West Trains and East Midland trains livery is remarkably similar.   I wonder why they chose the same colours and style?  FreeFlow99 (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your answer is Stagecoach Group.  --David Biddulph (talk) 18:29, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Cheers David.FreeFlow99 (talk) 10:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

text: , could you please add the location to that file. I've added appropriate train categories. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure whether I've done the right thing, but I've added the station name to the metadata.  FreeFlow99 (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class 153