Talk:Jim Doyle

message: Added  to this section as everything after Herb Kohl looks like NPOV attacks. Citations would help defend this, if true; else it could be removed.  -- MrDolomite | Talk 19:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article consists of either Doyle being bashed, or Doyle being praised. POV is all over the place, and good NPOV sections are being removed. This definitely needs a clean-up, possibly even a rewrite. tmopkisn tlka 22:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The 2006 Election

message: I added  and  to the Attorney General section because about 2/3 of the statements are problematic either one way or the other. The possibly POV part of the section currently reads:
During his twelve years as Attorney General, Doyle was considered tough on crime, but not unsympathetic to its causes. As attorney general he generally opposed expansion of gambling in the state, a stance which he reversed as Governor.  This reversal drew attention to the unprecedented amounts of campaign contributions that he received from indian tribes. He also gained recognition through several successful lawsuits against tobacco companies in the state, but then Governor Scott McCallum used most of the settlements to balance the general account, rather than for health purposes as intended.
Due to a potential conflict of interest, it's better if I don't edit this part of the article, so perhaps someone else could help clean this section up. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 05:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, browsing the article history, the unsourced statements were mostly added on 27 September 2006 by Jeffjuni, which, based on his contribs, appears to be a single-purpose account. I have reverted the section to the version prior to his edits. I believe that some of the above statements could be appropriate if properly sourced and cited, but, for now, better to leave them out and stick to the facts (and WP:V). --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 06:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attorney General section

message: Where are people finding that he was born in Madison? The Blue Book says that he was born in Washington D.C.  --Benn Newman 22:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Place of Birth

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject class rating

message: I'm recording on this talk page that an image exists on Wikimedia Commons of Gov. Doyle from 2005. Then when someone replaces it with an image that usually gets deleted as a copyright violation, there is a record of this image to restore to this article. Royalbroil 04:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reserve image

message: A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/James Edward Doyle was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot (talk) 19:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bot-created subpage

message: One of the editors started an article about Jim Doyle's father James Edward Doyle, who was a US federal court judge. His mother Ruth Bachhuber Doyle served in the Wisconsin State Assembly. Since, Mrs Doyle was notable in her own right, I started an article about Mrs. Doyle. Also I added an link from the Wisconsin State Historical the Dictionary of Wisconsin History about Gov. Doyle to this article.Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ruth Bachhuber Doyle 

message: I changed the section a bit to bring it more up to speed with current events.
However, do we really need to keep the section up about who is considering a run for governor (paragraph 3)? I think that would be more fitting on the Wisconsin gubernatorial election, 2010 page. --Gb supernova (talk) 00:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: /* 2010 Gubernatorial Election */

message: This seems misleading. The source (obit of Bachhuber) phrases it as "With her husband, Ruth Bachhuber Doyle helped rebuild the Democratic Party in Wisconsin." In fact Doyle Sr. was a member of the Progressive party who turned to the existing Democratic party after dissolution of the Progressive party following the end of WWII. Wisconsin Magazine of History Spring 2004 http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wmh/pdf/spring04_cooper.pdf Maybe I'm fighting over semantics, but it seems important enough to be clarified.
Aptoumanoff (talk) 03:27, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It was exactly as progressives facing the dissolution of the old Progressive Party that Doyle Sr. and Ruth helped rebuild the Democrats (usually a weak and often rather conservative bunch, dependent on patronage). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Orangemike is entirely  correct in this assessment. Capitalismojo (talk) 16:30, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonetheless, Aptoumanoff was correct to call the old wording misleading ("founding" was not a good choice of adjective); I hope my changes seem appropriate. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:40, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parents founding members of modern Democratic Party 

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