Talk:Carnival Corporation & plc

message: "Carnival Corporation & plc", is that a UK subsidiary?--Jerryseinfeld 00:19, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Carina22 is more or less spot on here, Carnival Corporation & plc is made up of TWO companies (dual listing) as indicated above.  Carnival Corporation, which is the US listed company originally formed by Arison, and Carnival plc, which is the UK listed company formerly known as P&O Princess Cruises plc, which originates from P&O.  These two companies are effectively run as one (Carnival Group), operating all the cruise brands in the group.  
More specifically, Carnival plc is literally P&O Princess Cruises plc with a new name.  When Carnival Corp and P&O Princess plc merged, it was agreed that P&O Princess would remain as a separate company, retaining the predominantly British shareholder body and management team; it was simply re-listed as Carnival plc.  Carnival plc is NOT the company founded by Arison, Carnival plc is P&O's old cruise ship business with a new name!
The P&O Princess article goes into more detail about the background of the company, but again Carina22 is correct, P&O Princess plc was created from the old passenger division of P&O (Peninsular & Oriental). Crazy-dancing (talk) 13:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification

message: you listed historic cunard ships like RMS Queen Elizabeth 1940 and old Carpathia under Carnival Corp. ships.  What's that?  It's wrong!
QE 2 and QM 2 are okay. 10:01, July,29th 2005 DEF
:I'd argue that since Cunard is now a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation, that these were correctly placed. As would RMS Titanic for example. However it would have to be properly noted. JonEastham 15:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I started a separate article for P&O Cruises. It's a tad shortish as I didn't dare to get into the company history after all this confusion... so if anyone can wrap their heards around this better than me, go and improve the article right now! - Kjet 11:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ships

message: Yes Carnival did not own Titanic, but threw the purchase of Cunard, it has become part of its history. Please do not just revert back with talking about it. -Ben 02:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidence? Cunard bought White Star, years later Carnival brough Cunard. As a result you can - theoretically at least - say the Titanic was in a way a Carnival ship. However I have to point out it wasn't a cruise liner and therefore shouldn't belong in the list. - Kjet 14:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titanic 

message: I've noticed that on numerous articles, someone is going around deleting useful financial data about the companies.  Please leave financial data intact as it is indespensible to financial research.  In this case, it looks like they selectively removed one company's more extensive and focused financial analysis and replaced it with yahoo's more general information.  However, to not get into an editing war as to which external link is more useful to wikipedia viewrs, I'll leave both.192.114.4.36 (talk) 08:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see User talk:192.114.4.36#Seekingalpha.com spam and likely sockpuppetry. Thanks. -Colfer2 (talk) 14:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Financials 

message: Why is there a mention of Dianne Brimble who died on a P&O cruise in Australia on the Wikipedia entry for Carnival Lines?
I will remove it (18 August 2008 22:13hrs AEST)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.215.201 (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree with its removal; but, keep in mind that Carnival Corporation & plc (this article) owns P&O Cruises as well as Carnival Cruise Lines and several other cruise line brands, so that's likely why it's in this article.  This article is about the parent company, not the cruise line which it owns, which has its own article. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dianne Brimble 

message: Iberocruceros needs to be included in the listing in the lead para. 174.112.72.98 (talk) 04:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: DONE Crazy-dancing (talk) 13:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Header 

message: The article on Micky Arison states that he is the current CEO, but this article states that it is Cahill.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.18.52 (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is CEO? 

message: Only the logo of the the parent company (in the infobox) should be used here. All the cruise brand logos fail WP:NFC on the following counts: 
*None meet WP:NFCC#10c (no rationales for this article on their image description page)
*None meet WP:NFCC#8 (no contextual significance in this article: this article is not about those brands, it's about their parent company Carnival Corporation & plc; the logos are not the object of critical sourced commentary, they are only decorative elements here)
*None meet WP:NFCC#3 (it is not minimal use to sport 10 non-free images in this article; it's not minimal use to sport those logos here as well as in the articles on those cruise brands; if people need to see the logo, they can access the article on the specific cruise line they are looking for)
N.B. :File:P&O Cruises Australia.svg is too simple to pass the threshold of originality and has been determined ineligible for copyright, you can do as you please with it here. All other logos are non-free images. Will , who most recently added them, agree to their removal? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:26, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's okay. And thank you for addressing this issue, . – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cruise line brand logos 

message: The link for P&O goes to P&O Australia.  I would correct it, but I am unsure of the format being used and don't want to break it  (Newbie).
Jgw321 (talk) 09:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorted. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side Panel (Brands) 

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message: I have submitted an uncontroversial technical move request to change it back to "& PLC" as per User:Murgatroyd49's undo. It may not actually be uncontroversial as I just noticed the Requested move section above. I honestly don't care either way as long as the article title and body are consistent. 93 (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree (as above) that the use of lowercase "plc" appears to be the de facto standard used on Wikipedia. Also if you look at the Memorandum of Association of the company it appears to have been registered as "Carnival plc". Dormskirk (talk) 20:20, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Apologies, general use trumps (sorry!) the niceties of English grammar. As the de facto standard leave it as plc. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:30, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "PLC"/"plc" capitalisation 

message: Hi!
Can we have a new section detailing the Pollution and Cover-Up Case reported by the NYT on June 4th?
 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/business/carnival-cruise-pollution.html
Thank you!
Andreas Wuschelweich (talk) 07:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pollution and Cover-Up Case 

message: I've noticed that people in certain second-tier cities seem to have no civic pride, in terms of the paucity of excellent photos on WP of landmarks around their cities.  It's amazing that a photo I took 12 years ago on an entirely overcast day is still in this article because no one in South Florida apparently has the time to drive by Carnival Place with a camera on a sunny morning. For that reason, I no longer upload photos on cloudy days to WP and I shoot photos for WP only on sunny or partially overcast days. --Coolcaesar (talk) 06:49, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can anyone get a more recent picture? 

message: https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/shipbuilding-refurb-equipment/carnival-signals-cruise-newbuild-orders-cards-probable-2027-delivery 93.237.123.189 (talk) 16:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Rumours, dressed up with common sense and non-committal answers to questions, remain rumours. WP is not a newspaper. - Davidships (talk) 17:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: All see WP:RUMOUR: "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation, rumors, or presumptions." Dormskirk (talk) 17:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  rumors about newbuilts from Italy / Fincantieri