Talk:Kauravi dialect

message: Addded Hindi Devanagari and Urdu Naskh. A mention here should be made that the historical Khariboli is considered by many linguists to be the common ancestor of modern Hindi and Urdu - especially as that subject can become so contentious and devolve into nationalistic rants. Khiradtalk 02:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

message: does the scope of this article, or does it not, include Urdu? If it does, its scope is identical with Hindustani (merge there), if it does not, its scope is identical with that of Standard Hindi (merge there). If we are not sure which is the case, prehaps this should be a disambiguation page. dab (𒁳) 10:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be merged with Hindustani. Both Hindi and Urdu, as literary and/or official forms are based on this dialect. Merging with either Standard Hindi or with Urdu would be unfair. The word Khariboli is used more in colloquial speech, whereas Hindustani is more popular with the linguists, and in fact even that has declined slightly in popularity to give way to the hyphenated term "Hindi-Urdu". However we are faced with the problem of doing justice to each of these terms and at the same time, not duplicating information in the process. Maquahuitltalk! 11:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: scope

message: I strongly contest the claim made in the article about the four "varities" of Khariboli. What is that nonsense? Khariboli itself is a specific dialect. How can it have four varieties?  Maquahuitltalk! 15:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am a native speaker of Hindi and at the same time sufficiently versed in linguistics. As far as I remember the last time I saw the article it used the word "varieties" instead of "registers". That was total nonsense because "variety" can perhaps only mean "dialect", something which is not possible in the sense mentioned. Currently with "registers", yes the statement is logical from a linguistic point of view but is factually incorrect. A register is the literary or official formalisation of a language after a particular dialect with its grammar, case system, etc. has been decided upon. Only MSH and Urdu share the dialect. Dakkhini is based upon a totally different dialect and Rekhta is not a formal register anywhere. Rekhta was a historical form of Urdu and not a contemporary register of Khariboli. Maquahuitltalk! 03:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four varieties 

message: Request editors of this article to comment on this message:Talk:Hindustani language#Hindi/Standard Hindi/Khariboli/Urdu etc --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 18:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindi/Standard Hindi/Khariboli/Urdu etc  

message: When Hindustani originated out of Khariboli, why Hindustani is put above Khariboli in the chart. This is a massive blunder in all articles relating to Khariboli, Hindustani, Hindi and Urdu. Ashok4himself (talk) 14:02, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you.  I remember there was a discussion about this a long time ago for one of the articles, and someone provided an (unconvincing) explanation for putting Hindustani above Khariboli.  Hopefully the person who reverted your edit, Future Perfect at Sunrise, or anyone else who is in support of Hindustani above Khariboli will be kind enough to provide a good explanation. --Foreverknowledge (talk) 06:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody is listening to me even I provided some authentic link which shows Hindustani came out of Khariboli but seems nobody is listening to me. Aapko Kya Hindi bolni aati hai. Ashok4himself (talk) 20:07, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I agree with Ashok4himself that Khariboli should come under Western Hindi. The map also needs to be updated to say Khariboli.PradeepBoston (talk) 16:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Hindustani is above Khariboli 

message: It is not called Kauravi by linguistics or natives, the name was suggested but not accepted. The title must be changed. Yoddha123 (talk) 09:54, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khariboli not Kauravi 

message: This page completely conflates Kauravi and Khariboli, probably due to the fact that in modern popular usage, Khariboli often refers to the more rustic Hindustani-related varieties that are subsumed under Kauravi by linguists. The first thing that needs to be changed is the opening of the lede. Currently, it reads:
* Kauravi (, ), also known as Khaṛībolī or the Delhi dialect,, {{|khadī bōlī|standing dialect|translit-std=ISO}} is any of several Central Indo-Aryan dialects spoken in and around Delhi.
As a first aid, I suggest to rephrase it as follows:
* Kauravi (, ), is a collective term for the Western Hindi varieties spoken northeast of Delhi that are closely related to Hindustani. Together with Hindustani, they form a dialect continuum known as Khaṛībolī.
As a second step, Khariboli should be changed into a dab (or a "daboid" stub with some introductory explanations), pointing to this article as well as Hindustani language.
Finally, much of the section "Early influences" can be thrown out, as this is just a content fork of Hindustani-related articles. This is not necessary in a page which is about Kauravi (previously "Khariboli" before the page move). Pinging @ as the most active editor in the history of this page, and the most knowledgeable one. –Austronesier (talk) 10:49, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite necessary