Talk:Roozonline

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:* Critics of the website argue that since it is funded by government of the Netherlands, it works in the interest of that nation, and does not represent factual accuracy of the events.
:* In November 2006, Hossein Derakhshan, a founding member and technical director of the website, briefly discontinued his cooperation resulting the website to shut down. He stated this was in response to the non-payment of his dues, as a result of accusations of having the same viewpoints as the government of Iran.
Looks like original research based on a post on Hoder's blog. The other "source" was http://www.tik.ir which seems to be down. 
Oh and just because the newspaper may have received funding from a organization that receives fundings from various sources, including the dutch government, it doesn't make it related to Netherlands! --Rayis 13:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On that post he is basically ranting that he didn't get paid and he was accused of something. Do you really think this is controversial enough to be included on Wikipedia? My idea was that a blog is a blog at the end of the day and it is not reliable nor in this case that important. This is separate from the other "controversy" which again seems to be really not notable enough --Rayis 14:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think I may have heard about something or another but if you are right then finding sources shouldn't be a problem --Rayis 15:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I am quoting Derakhshan from his own website, hence a reliable source. I am not sure why are you trying to suppress this information, but  I'll add more sources anyway.--Gerash77 03:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  and what if it is the website of the person that we are quoting? for example quoting a celeb from her own website, seems to be a perfectly fine.--Gerash77 07:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Gerash, you seem to be a little confused by this whole adding sources thing. The sentence which you have given 7 sources is "it works in the interest of that nation, and does not represent factual accuracy of the events." That is a serious accusation. Now can you please tell me where on hoder's post or infact any of those sources it says that? direct quotes with links will be greatly appreciated --Rayis 09:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you kindly provide translations for these too? most seem to be talking about the dutch parliament and the last one something about CIA involvement. Please see [] --Rayis 10:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  u can read persian urself i am sure. it seems you are just trying to get rid of critics pov for whatever reason. even if its not verifiable to you, tag it. don't remove the info.--Gerash77 10:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  Focusing on what it is in English first, from what the organization's website claims, we can't just accept how critics word it. See below for what I mean. --Rayis 10:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: what exactly are you asking? are you claiming hivos isn't backing the group. That is false. its 730,000 euro budget: 
Nevertheless, I said "critics argue", so what exactly do you want me to cite? when the the site operates say it is funded by Holland, why are you trying to deny this is beyond me:
بر خلاف نظر جنابعالی، من "روز" و"زمانه" را مشمول ادعای براندازانه نمی​دانم.  چون از ابتدا در جریان بودجه ماخوذه از پارلمان هلند بوده​ام،  جزئیاتش را هم می​دانم.  
the critics say its run by hivos, and it is trying to encourage western policies - 
sajjadi:
بنده چگونه بايد صلح دوستی شما را باور کنم وقتی می بينم مسئوليت در سايتی را داريد (روز نت) که از بودجه پارلمان هلند تغذيه شده و کاريکاتوريست آن در کمال بی پروائی و در موقعيتی که ايران شريرانه از جانب ايالات متحده متهم به دخالت و شرارت در امور داخلی عراق و دست داشتن در بمب گذاری ها و ترور ها می شود و مترصد اندک بهانه جهت تهاجم محکمه پسند! به ايران است
در سايت  					اينترنتی روز 					 					 					كه از جانب پارلمان هلند حمايت می‌شود و مجموعاً اين سايت را  					بمنظور احراز 					 					 					شرايط تصدی تلويزيون ماهواره‌ای مصوب پارلمان هلند آرايش كرده  					اند می‌بينيم خط مشی مقالات سردبيری به وضوح درصدد القای  					ناگريزی ايران به دست 					 					 					كشيدن از فناوری هسته‌ای اش، می‌پرداز
farahani:
روزنامه ی هلندی NRC - Handelsblad در 16 سپتامبر سال جاری گزارشی جنجالی منتشر کرد هلند به عوامل سازمان سیا پول داده است تا در ایران انقلاب راه بیندازند با پول ِکلانی که هلند اختصاص داده است فعلن چند سایت اینترنتی-روز آنلاین- و یک رادیو-رادیو زمانه- ایجاد شده سازمان خانه آزادی که در سال 2003 از حمله آمریکا به عراق جانبداری می کرد
hence, this is what the critics say. If you have any response from them, add them, and if you don't don't remove it. if you think the passage aint neutral, tag it.  im getting tired over this nonsense--Gerash77 10:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you kindly provide translations for these too? most seem to be talking about the dutch parliament and the last one something about CIA involvement. Please see [] --Rayis 10:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  u can read persian urself i am sure. it seems you are just trying to get rid of critics pov for whatever reason. even if its not verifiable to you, tag it. don't remove the info.--Gerash77 10:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  Focusing on what it is in English first, from what the organization's website claims, we can't just accept how critics word it. See below for what I mean. --Rayis 10:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: funding revisited

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