Talk:Thomas M. Disch

message: Is he really dead? Are we sure?
The only first-hand source for this is Ellen Datlow's blog. The website sourced here in relation to his death links to the blog itself. Now I'm not saying that Ellen Datlow is lying, but does anyone know of a more reliable, trust worthy and credible source? The New York Times haven't got anything about him yet and seeing as he's from NY, you'd think they'd be the first people with the story... -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.143.120.249 (talk) 14:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: :"He did not try to write to a particular community: "I'm gay myself, but I don't write 'gay' literature."[5] This increased his universality though it perhaps deprived him of a loyal fan-base."
What is this last part supposed to imply exactly? That if he were to have shoved more gay themes into his novels he might have acquired a greater following amongst homosexual sci-fi fans? This seems awfully speculative at best. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 15:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed this. Dybryd (talk) 19:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I have no problem with this removal. It was an attempt to examine the interaction of between different genres or niches, knowing how loyal some readers can be to their favorite area (be that SF or queer fiction). Perhaps it's too much analysis and not enough encyclopedic fact?AllanAnderson (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Loyal fan-base speculation

message: The only major obituary now online gives July 5, however, all other published sources have said the fourth. Can anyone resolve this? Dybryd (talk) 19:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the early returns from this search say he died on the fourth. I don't know the specific bio you're referencing, so I don't know it's comparative reliability, but I'm thinking it might be a typo? John Carter (talk) 01:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The LA Times obit dated the 8th states "fatally shot himself in the head July 5, according to the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner." whereas the other sources probably just copied the 1st report. -- Jeandré, 2008-07-12t09:18z
It's still not sufficiently clear. Between the LA Times obit which references the NYC Medical Examiner (as July 5th), and Gay.com that references the NYC Police Dept. (as July 4th, found on the 5th), as well as the NY Times  and the Washington Post  that report the 4th, there is still too much uncertainty to definitively pick one over the other, although I'm leaning toward July 4th, based on the combined weight and reputation of the Post and Times. It may become clarified at some point, hopefully. I'm working on the infobox, in which I had to pick one or the other, and I picked the 4th as being somewhat more likely. — Becksguy (talk) 14:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I assume that by now there's an accepted consensus on the date of his death. That being the case, isn't it kind of absurd to have 7 (seven!) references attached to that one point in the article? 108.7.233.117 (talk) 15:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the controversy may have died down at the moment, but the refs prevent it from flaring up again in the future. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:56, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of death.

message: Template:Infobox Writer would be good to add if anyone's inspired. Banjeboi 09:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  add infobox 

message: There's an interesting published essay The Avoidable Death of Thomas Disch that might be worth adding to the external links, but since it's commentary I'm not sure it passes muster...  Robort (talk) 12:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Essay

message: These appear on a number of websites, one of which is http://www.alphane.com/moon/PalmTree/fbi.htm
It seems Phillip K Dick sent a letter to the FBI with his concerns about Disch, and one particular book (CONCENTRATION CAMP).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdfhoppy (talk • contribs) 16:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The FBI file of Phillip K Dick 

message: Disch seemed to be very antagonistic to Islam in his last years. He wrote an article
praising Oriana Fallaci " for her fiery anti-Islam book "The Rage and the Pride" (2002)....She has been virtually the only high-profile writer to say what everyone thinks about the Islamis but is too chickensh*t to say".
http://tomsdisch.livejournal.com/53199.html
And Disch's obituary in Science Fiction Studies states " His Livejournal blog, “Endzone” (<http://tomsdisch.livejournal.com/>), drew some notoriety for its occasional anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant rants, giving painful evidence of how Disch’s perspective on the world darkened in his final years." This
information should be incorporated into the article.
http://www.depauw.edu/sfs/notes/notes106.htm
176.61.97.121 (talk) 19:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposition to Islam? 

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message: I am concerned about the number of unreferenced quotations, mainly from Disch himself, in the article. I am not debating that the quotes are from him, but feel that it undercuts the article's reliability as a reference on Disch. Hifrommike65 (talk) 11:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of these seemed to have been fixed by now; I found only two still lacking a footnote, and it turned out they were from already-cited articles (Horwich and Heacox) so they were easy to fix. ←Hob 03:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced quotations 

message: This is not worth adding to the article itself, but just so it's noted somewhere, some reference works as well as the iBooks reprinting suggest the TV series The Prisoner was created by Disch or based upon his 1969 novel. Of course his book was simply a spin-off work of the series which was created by either Patrick McGoohan or George Markstein or both (exact who is the matter of longstanding debate, but what is not debated is Disch had nothing to do with the series). 2604:3D09:1F74:1C00:ACE3:143E:9465:4F62 (talk) 20:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: The Prisoner