Talk:Bosnia (region)

message: No one going to Mostar and is from Mostar will call themselves Bosnian, except for familiarity. This is an encyclopedia, and such information is good to have, although not super-important. Dado, please stop being so nervous about the breaches of statehood of B&H, because, if the UN recognized the country, there's no reason to fear it's existence in Wikipedia. Also, these little tidbits help people understand the region better. I don't understand why you work up a paranioa!!! I am unhappy that people don't have a clue about Herzegovina, and these things should be publicized!!! Ogidog --24.2.242.93 06:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bosnian

message: This article needs major work and improvements. Bosnia does not automatically denote everything other than Herzegovina in B&H, just as Croatia doesn't denote everything other than Dalmatia and Slovenia in the Republic of Croatia. Bosnia and Herzegovina, despite the name, is not composed of just two regions. Its composed of dozens of small historical-geographic regions. Herzegovina is one of these small historical-geographic regions. Bosnia, as the primary name of the country for centuries, means a number of things. It can mean (in no particular order):
# Common term for the entire country, including Herzegovina. Used for centuries.
# The part of the country that isn't Herzegovina. Technically not correct, but Herzegovina has historically been the most significant region after of B&H after Bosnia so the other regions more easily fall under the category "Bosnia".
# Bosnia proper / earliest historical core. Meaning, a small area covering about 20% of modern B&H, stretching from Sarajevo to Zenica. Center of the earliest Bosnian state.
# Or it can mean this early historical core along with other smaller regions associated with "Bosnia" from the earliest times. This includes Zavrsje (Livno, etc.), Romanija (just east of Sarajevo), Usora (Doboj area), Soli (Tuzla),aeverything up to Jajce and "Bosnian Krajina", and perhaps a part of Posavina.  The other main regions of B&H (Podrinje, Krajina, Semberija) dont fit as neatly into the category. This is, in my opinion, the most correct definition to use when talking of Bosnia as a sub-region of Bosnia & Herzegovina. Others may disagree.
My two cents. Asim Led 20:14, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please go ahead and add these historical references (3 & 4; I think 1 & 2 are now clearly in the articles); I'm not watching the "History of BiH" article so I don't know what would be duplicated, but few forewords here won't harm in any case. Duja 08:00, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: meanings

message: This artical is very poor because there no mention of Turkish Croatia which was called when the Ottamans conqured the heart land of Croatia. It wasn't until around the 1887 the country changed its name to the Regional provence Bosnia. --Marbus2 5 14:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus this, Chetniks are put side by side with partisans as resistance forces, despite being known that Chetniks were Nazi colaborationists just as Ustashe puppet regime. This is historical revisionism of WWII, just as reducing WWII concentration camps victims number by factor of 10 and then finding number of skeleton caves all over the country that earth did not want to hide any longer. -- 188.129.64.107 (talk) 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''History of Bosnia''' 

message: Very strange that Bosnia pipes to the country Bosnia and Herzegovina and yet the actual region worthy of the stand-alone name gets a qualifier: (region). The Big Hoof! (talk) 16:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably because most people still think that the country is the primary topic for "Bosnia". The last discussion about that was in 2010 at Talk:Bosnia. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect 

message: Article includes the following material, originally added by User:77.77.216.183 and removed by several editors: User:Thomas.W, User:Widr, User:95.156.182.67, and myself, and readded by a number of IP users: User:77.238.220.126, User:217.197.142.16, User:77.77.214.68, User:77.238.216.160, User:162.212.152.103. These IP users only edit this article and Herzegovina, and have been persistent for about a month.
:Bosnia ... was the country's official name during the medieval period until the Ottomans and Hapsburgs introduced the artificial division to help their handover of the colonial power from Turkey to Austria-Hungary. Thus a fable was created, according to which Bosnia is the northern region encompassing roughly 80% of the country while another eponymous region of Herzegovina was given the role of the country's southern part.
:In that colonial sophistry of Divide and rule, the country was supposed to be composed of two autonomous regions: Bosnia and, separately, Herzegovina. However, Herzegovina is only one of many duchies that Bosnian feudal state was composed of; also, Herzegovina was historically never a part of the country's official name until the colonial powers decided so. In the like example, Croatia managed to get rid of its colonial name assigned to her in the same sophistry, of Croatia, Slavonia, and Dalmatia, however Bosnia did not and the colonial name is her official name still today.
This has several problems. First of all, it has zero sources (reliable or otherwise). Secondly, it is written in highly partisan language: "artificial division", "fable was created", "colonial sophistry". It seems that the IP (probably one person) will continue to reinsert this material, despite multiple named editors reverting it. --Macrakis (talk) 19:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Tendentious content

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved.   -- Calidum 18:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Bosnia (region) →  – The currently redirect term Bosnia used to redirect to the sovereign country of Bosnia and Herzegovina but was changed quite recently. I propose to remove the "(region)" part of the name as there are no other articles that are named just "Bosnia". For arguments in bringing back the redirect to the sovereign country, my response is that referring to the compound name of the country as just "Bosnia" is like saying "England" to refer to the United Kingdom" or "Soviet Russia" to refer to the whole country of the Soviet Union. PyroFloe (talk) 17:03, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 May 2021