Talk:Rocksteady

message: Could some who knows how change the Gladstone Anderson article reefrence to this:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120624223427/http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/Entertainment/Gladstone-Anderson--Key-player-in-rocksteady-s-genesis_11568423  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.223.217.219 (talk) 21:36, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I was wondering, can we really say rocksteady is a successor of ska?
I mean there were two more waves of ska after it. Would it not make more sense to say it was developed from ska? Also, I don't agree with ska nd rocksteady being subgenres of reggae as it came after!
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Yes, rocksteady is successor of ska.  As in ska stylistically evolved into rocksteady during mid 60s, and then later rocksteady evolved into reggae.  From there it diverges into dub and dancehall and other subgenres.  What I'm trying to say that rocksteady is the successor to ska in the history of Jamaican music: that's perfectly accurate.  The later waves of ska were revivals, not the original ska but a newer take on the music of the early 60s.
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I understand and agree with you that rocksteady and ska shouldnt exactly be subgenres of reggae but many times, the term "reggae' is used to describe jamaican music in general. In that sense, they are subgenres of reggae, though its a bit confusing. Glassbreaker5791 02:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical Timeline

message: As it is "ska dancing" links to "Skank". Skanking is a very common dance performed to ska but it is far from being the only ska-related dance. Linking ska dancing to skanking makes it seem as though they are the same, which they are not. Its too misleading and so I'm removing the link.
Glassbreaker5791 03:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ska Dancing? 

message: I originally contributed much of this page in 2007.  Since that time I've seen various edits, many of which are not an improvement. If it's an edit that clarifies or tightens up the text, or corrects syntax and so forth that is great, but some of the newer contributions have made the definition of Rocksteady music less clear. I don't have a lot of ego attached to this page but there have been many edits that are poorly written and others that are confusing in their technical description of the music.  For example, the average person does not know what an "offbeat" is. It is a Jamaican musician's reference to upbeats, AKA the 8th notes that fall between the main 4/4 beats.  I have tried to describe the music in terms that musicians would use, as I am a musician myself. At any rate, please know what you are talking about before making capricious edits to the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordkoos (talk • contribs) 04:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revisions 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but a bar in rocksteady has 4 beats. These are beats 1, 2, 3, 4. There is no 'AND' beat. The article needs to be based on reliable sources, not how someone interprets someone counting in a Youtube video.--Michig (talk) 05:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I could start an RFC on whether we go with established consensus backed up by reliable sources, or with your analysis of Youtube clips, but I suspect I know what the outcome would be. Reliable sources are always going to take precedence. --Michig (talk) 16:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

text: So...do you have any reliable sources?--Michig (talk) 19:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Go and read Wikipedia:Reliable sources then come back and answer the question again.--Michig (talk) 21:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Can you not understand the concept of people playing notes between beats in a bar, or slightly out of sync with the beats, or that people can count in a different way to how the beats are represented when the music is written down? You still haven't come up with a single reliable source.--Michig (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Err, and "I decided this is correct from some Youtube videos" is an ok approach to writing an encyclopedia, is it? This whole project is based on verifiability and reliable sources. You need to get with the program on these issues. Would you consider Lloyd Bradley a reliable source? Bradley is the author of the books This is Reggae Music and Bass Culture, and operated his own sound system before concentrating on writing. This is what he has to say: "Although classic rocksteady stayed in a 4/4 time and on the off beat, the way such a notion was expressed had altered enormously. The heartbeat of this new rhythm was a slowed-down tempo dictated by the kick drum, which was now kicking it on the third beat only instead of the second and fourth beats as it would have done in ska." (This Is Reggae Music, p. 165)--Michig (talk) 19:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

text: So...any reliable sources yet?--Michig (talk) 10:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

text: When is it going to sink in that this project is based on verifiability and reliable sources, not individual 'expert' editors deciding what is 'right'? --Michig (talk) 11:01, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I think you've answered my question - never.--Michig (talk) 11:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beats in a bar 

message: Oral witness can be recorded/registered and then broadcast as videos (aye, and Youtube videos too), TV and radio programs... and also transcribed to articles or books to be published. Many books and doctoral thesis works are based on oral accounts by people who witnessed or took part actively or passively in events. That's called oral history. And that is precisely what the clips and documentaries included above bring us. So, please, do not despise oral accounts just because they are oral or not (yet) published in ink or digital characters. #RocsteadyLover  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.39.218.10 (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oral sources can be as reliable as written ones are 

message: Is this relevant?  What about Denmark?  or Bangladesh? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 02:04, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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