Talk:Viacom (1952–2005)

message: I don't think it was wise to move the Viacom (1986) article I created to one that indicates the year 1971. The prior Viacom was not founded in 1971: it was founded in 1986. There was some sort of previous instance of the company that existed from 1971-1986, but I haven't yet researched the details of it or why it was refounded. Nonetheless, I expect that there may be a separate article in the future covering the 1971 instance. That's why I created it as "Viacom (1986)", and I used only the founding year in the title to follow the convention of Westinghouse Electric Corporation (1886) and Westinghouse Electric Corporation (1998), the latter company of which is still in existence, and both of which are highly intertwined with the CBS-Viacom transactions.Jkatzen 22:20, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move from Viacom (1986)

message: The Phil Collins song "Seperate Lives" is about divorce, right? Well, who would represent each company in that duet? You'd have to have a man and a woman. You might call it corny, but I find it pretty funny. 71.111.209.99 23:48, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duet? 

message: We had cable service called viacom cable, where is the information about them as a cable company? User:crd721—Preceding undated comment added at 05:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Viacom Cable

message: WGBH has a section for the Flash of Doom, why no V of Doom here? It's even more widely-known. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.208.154.222 (talk) 03:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Not Any Logo Reference?

message: Hey, shouldn't we add a section for Viacom's closing logos from 1971 until 2004. This may be more noteworthy than you think. Sean90 23:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. The Green Lantern 02:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viacom logos 

message: In a late 2007 interview on C-SPAN's "The Communicators," Ralph Baruch (first chairman of Viacom) remarks that he hated the company name, that it was chosen for graphical reasons (another executive was very heavily graphics-oriented and envisioned the logo with the A and V being inverses), and that it was originally pronounced VEEacom (as in Venus).
Sumner Redstone, when he purchased Viacom, changed the pronunciation to the much more well known V[eye]acom.
At time of writing, a Podcast of the episode in question can be downloaded from http://download.rbn.com/cspan/cspan/download/com_feed.xml
(Maybe we are all used to the modern pronunciation, but I do not change articles unless I am quite certain that my information is correct.) Shultzc (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Viacom logo.png

message: I placed the merge tags above this page and the Viacom Enterprises article, as I feel these two pages are about the exact same subject -- only "Viacom Enterprises" seems to be less-detailed. The Green Lantern (talk) 03:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging [[Viacom Enterprises]] into this page

message: :The two items in See also are already linked in the article.
:Manual of Style suggests that they therefore do not also go in the See also section.
:    Vengeance is mine, saith the Prime    20:13, 4 Aug 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey, can you point out where in the Manual of Style it says you can't do both?  A perfunctory glance of the MOS isn't revealing it. Jkatzen (talk) 20:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Goodbye, see also

message: Do you guys believe Viacom is guilty for claiming false copyright over videos on YouTube???--210.24.206.171 (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  VIACOM vs YouTube 

message: :File:Viacom-old.svg
(Oops, I meant to name it Viacom-old.svg, but I would like to see if this is an acceptable alternative before I actually get it renamed.)
Whether or not the license is accurate is unclear, but I know it's one or the other. mechamind90 20:43, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recreated SVG logo 

message: I was planning to merge this article with Viacom, although most parts of the old Viacom looks similar to the new one. Superastig (talk) 23:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with the new Viacom 

message: Whether or not it is a common opinion that the US was more free after Viacom "killing" the CBS Corporation and recycling the name for their spin-off (I am splitting it into two articles) made the US more "free" because the company had too much power over everything after the 1971 split, that doe not stop it from being an opinion, and the section should not be named that. It should be changed to something like "2005 split." Not to mention that it was a bit too wordy for a headline. I shall make this edit now. --Walex03. Talking, working, friending. 17:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The end of the partnership and the death of the Viacom empire 

message: The old Viacom was a division split from the Westinghouse Electric Corporation. Yet this page appears to be associated with WikiProject Nationalt if anybody has any problem with that they v Basketball Association (the coverage of the NBA). I'm removing the page from the category currently, but if anybody has any problem with that then they can simply change it back. --Walex03. Talking, working, friending. 21:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject National Basketball Association 

message: Maybe I don't understand the question.  However, if the question is whether "old" Viacom should have the category of being a TV syndication distributor, when that is in fact what they did when they existed, then of course the category is correct.  I am removing the third opinion request as answered with a yes.  If there is another question, please restate the question.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: .@Robert McClenon, the question I was stating is: should the article for "old" Viacom contain the TV syndication distributor category, even though 1) "old" Viacom no longer exists & 2) once "old" Viacom started acquiring media properties, it ceased being a TV syndication distributor & became a media conglomerate? 76.235.248.47 (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  This article is a historical article, and it should have the historical category.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So, you're agreeing with Creativity that the article for "old" Viacom should contain the "Television syndication distributor" category? 76.235.248.47 (talk) 01:19, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Fine.....I'll leave the article alone, even though articles for defunct companies shouldn't have categories that belong only to active companies. 76.235.248.47 (talk) 21:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: I removed the passage " and stylized as VIΛCOM" because that is not true.  Check out these Viacom logos over the years.  Steelbeard1 (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viacom text rendering 

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Moved. See general agreement below to rename both articles. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there  09:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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===Post move===
FYI... per Wikipedia:TWODABS, and specifically Wikipedia:NOPRIMARY, the Viacom page has been converted to a disambiguation page. All article, category and file backlinks to the page have been disambiguated. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there  18:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 July 2019 

message: FYI... per Wikipedia:TWODABS, and specifically Wikipedia:NOPRIMARY, the Viacom page has been converted to a disambiguation page. All article, category and file backlinks to the page have been disambiguated. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there  18:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Post move

message: I have to question the choice of 1952 as the first year in the disambiguator. Yes, that is the year the division that became the original Viacom was started, but it wasn't a separate company at the time, and indeed I am not even sure that it was incorporated as a subsidiary at first instead of just a division within CBS. Since this article is really about a particular corporate entity, i would suggest that the disambiguator should use the year it became a separate entity, 1971, as the date, not an obscure corporately internal date. Not formally proposing a move because it's just been moved, but did want to get some feedback on the idea. oknazevad (talk) 15:10, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguator year

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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message: There was substantial evidence that the original Viacom was reorganized in 2005, but the header's endpiece reads 2006. —75.99.18.219 (talk) 17:02, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Request retitling article to [[Viacom (1952–2005)]]?

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