Talk:Bhavishya Purana

message: Hello, gatherd some Refs or External Links
http://www.vedam.org/bhavishyapurana.php?id=35
include them into article. --Prapan (talk) 06:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That commercial website is not a reliable reference for wikipedia, nor an appropriate external link. Abecedare (talk) 06:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: the literal meaning of this name, taken as Sanskrit, is "excessively drunk, excessive or violent rut (of elephant bulls)". Is this an unintended coincidence, or a tongue-in-cheek  slight on Muhammad (it is, after all, a rather fitting name for a destructive Asura). dab (𒁳) 10:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Monier-Williams has the same: next to "excessive or violent rut", he lists "great pride or intoxication". Böthlingk has, in addition: "a rutting elephant" and "fever". Aryaman (☼) 11:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Kapanad, indeed, the date was sourced by some unknown editor months ago. Although this suggested page was never created. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Mahāmada

message: I've currently semi-protected this page for 3 days, as it appears to be a target of abusive sockpuppetry (see, for instance, Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/DWhiskaZ). If needed, new users can request edits with the  template. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: Note the book Muhammad in World Scriptures Vol 3 is now available online in PDF
Link - http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/others/abdulhaqvidyarthi/muhammadworldscriptures3/muhammadworldscriptures3.pdf
only works in PDF and explains prophcies along with references for claims. Great book, 
enjoy --Abduleep (talk) 00:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mahāmada 

message: I've just deleted a link belonging to above website due to its highly polemic nature (what else does the name suggest?). If anyone out here has a link which explains similar concepts and doesn't belong to a POV-filled site as is the above, then please share and discuss. Another reason (much smaller though) for deletion of the link was that it was posted by someone by the name of Ganesh, the Edit-History (atleast the last 500 ) don't have anyone posting as 'Ganesh' (a sockpuppet at work again?).  'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 11:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted link from <small>''AnsweringIslam(dot)org(dot)uk''</small> 

message: I edited this article a few months ago, but the constant harassment by sockpuppet User:RajivLal forced me to retire from this article.  I had a great paragraph from a book written by an academic scholar on the dating of some sections of the Purana to the 19th century.  I am afraid to re-insert this paragraph since I did not want to start in another great edit war.  Should I re-insert this paragraph? Mar de Sin Speak up!
: Actually, I do not think this would help improve this article.  After rereading it, I have noticed that it's structure and style is extremely confusing and unencyclopedic. Mar de Sin Speak up! 15:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dating of the Bhavishya Purana 

message: I would like to request a permanent lock on this article considering the level of vandalism of the article. Only registered users should be allowed to edit this.Parthashome (talk) 06:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference for articles on hinduism should not be sourced from muslim websites. Interpretations of even basic sanskrit terms are twisted, let alone whole passages. The interpretation of the purana by a Ahmadiyya missionary is absolutely uacceptable as a source as the missionary's sole aim and purpose is to spread islam, and this purana's prediction clearly does not help their motif. Interpretation has to be sourced either form research websites of well known institutions or from books by well known sanskrit scholars.Parthashome (talk) 06:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Call to permanently protect the article 

message: Noah is mentioned in Bhavishya Purana by name Nyuha. Nyuha (Noah) is reffered to as devotee of Vishnu.	 
"Nyuha (Noah) ruled for 500 years. He had three sons named Sima, Sama and Bhava. Nyuha was a devotee of Lord Vishnu."	 
Nyuha is also mentioned in relationship with boat (see about Noah's ark). This story is similar to Vaivasvata-Manu mentioned in relationship with Matsya-avatara of Vishnu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theismcontrib (talk • contribs) 
:I saw you added this to a bunch of articles. Unfortunately, you only provided one reference on one of those articles, which is to a dubious source here. What we need in order to include this are:
:# More neutral wording, attributed to someone. I cleaned up the wording a bit on Noah's Ark to read: According to some Hindu scholars, the Bhavishya Purana compares Nyuha to Noah. In the story, Nyuha is a devotee of Vishnu, and he builds a boat and that saves him and others from a flood. That still needs some more work, however.
:# A better reference which complies with WP:RS
:If you can track down both of those, we can probably include this content in most of the articles you added it to. All the best, Jesstalk|edits 20:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Biblical and other characters are mentioned in the Purana, yes. Mohammed and Queen Victoria get a mention too. It's not necessarily worth making an issue out of it. These passages are believed to date from the 19th century. Essentially they are appropriations of non-Hindu cultures to a Hindu interpretation. This is already concisely discussed in the section on the Pratisargaparvan.Paul B (talk) 04:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI, he was just blocked as a sock of a disruptive editor. I was doing my absolute best to take him seriously, but clearly that effort was misplaced. Jesstalk|edits 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Biblical references

message: The article needs an authentic source. If anyone is willing to upload a scanned sanskrit pdf to an easily accesible location, it would really make all the issues easier to discuss.  At present there is no complete annotated original sanskrit or English translation available that can be referred to quoted/cited in order to resolve the issues. 
101.215.61.207 (talk) 08:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Book is available online. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A full source needed 

message: It is completely empty here,no mention about predictions of Muhammad and Jesus,please include them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.226.183.97 (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't "predict" something that has already happened. The passage in question is in a section that was written in the 19th century. Since the "prediction" is of a quasi-demonic disruptive character who will threaten the True Dharma, it's hardly one that Muslims should be too keen to confirm. Paul B (talk) 20:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Paul, I think on notability terms a footnote right at the bottom of the article probably needs to mention the Holger Kersten etc popularisation of "Jesus in the Bhavishya Maha Purana" and then why an early date is rejected by mainstream scholars. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Prediction