Talk:Non-English-based programming languages

message: TODO: Disscuss abit about history of programming languages, in relation to the use of english, please somebody who knows about it (I don't), where most langs dev'd by native english speakers? is it just a part of the tendency to use english as a technical language, being technically richer? (as reported in E. Raymond essay)
:Added some numbers based on the HPOL database... they mark the nation of origin for most languages. Tried to be vague about what I was implying, since I still cannot find a source for analysis of why English is so popular. --Marcinjeske (talk) 05:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Beacause it's easy probably, and because a creation of CERN, located in Romandy, was called Worl Wide Web intead of Réseau Mondial or Toile Mondiale possibly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.4.62.112 (talk) 03:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: To-do list for explanatory intro text

message: That's an interesting question: does punctuation count as natural language?
:No, it's just part of a natural language. 81.101.101.229 09:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Punctuation as language?

message: This is probably not quite the right place for it, but oh well. There is a stub on EnglishPython at zh:Python. Unfortunately my Chinese is not good enough to translate it (without a few spare hours). 
Also... from :zh:Category: English programming language (translation: Chinese programming languages), it looks like these may be worth mentioning:
* zh:PerlYuYan 
* zh:Bing Zhengzheng (based on C++) 
* zh:Easy language E-yu-yan - couldn't find any info about this in Chinese, but it certainly gets a tonne of Google hits. perhaps it was natively written in English?
pfctdayelise 08:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! [see also] —Wiki Wikardo 18:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: EnglishPython

message: I know of some Norwegian-made minicomputers of the 1960s and 70s whose assembler opcode mnemonics I am reasonably sure were abbreviations of Norwegian-language commands. Would those assembly languages be relevant for listing in this article? After all, they too are programming languages ... --Wernher 08:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely! Awesome if someone could dig up some more inf0z on that. —Wiki Wikardo 20:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-english assembly langs relevant?

message: Both redirect to the same product and it is said specifically that Mama has an Yiddish version - why split?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.134.185 (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. —Wiki Wikardo 18:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mama" vs. "Yiddishe Mama" 

message: "Non-English-based programming languages" infers that other programming languages are somehow based on the structure of English. This is more into the area of NLP. Isn't there a better way to put it to say that the keywords come from English, but that it has nothing to do with the English language.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.158.218.252 (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of article 

message: Should Binary be mentioned somewhere? - Kylelovesyou (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think not. Binary is a computer language. But somebody should mention no programmer worth ones salt never uses a language that is localized, since it means there is little to no examples, libraries, updates etc available compared to internationally used programming languages, which are in English. Even a spreadsheet program using localized expressions is painful, and not only to guest stars from abroad, but for locals who try to google for syntax. Believe me, I just experienced it. Just think how difficult it is if your bash suddenly starts to obey only French commands, even if you do speak native French, 8 in Binary is 1000. --84.250.122.35 (talk) 17:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Binary?

message: Could we consider SAP ABAB as being German derived? Significant portions of the language derive keywords from German Abbreviations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.81.210.112 (talk) 20:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABAB

message: Hindi Programming Language – A Hindi programming language for the .NET Framework.[17] <- ref 17 is a broken link  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.156.67 (talk) 15:19, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Links 

message: Had written transpiler in the past for educational software (MachineLab) that would convert English/Greek Logo to PascalScript and Greek symbols to Greeklish (English-char-based) ones for PascalScript to not reject them. Not sure if such a thing is called a English programming language. 
Also in E-Slate Logo (opensource based on TurtleTracks Logo) had implemented support for both Greek (and any other language translations via Java resourcebundles) and English Logo commands in a way where you could even mix them in a program. Also allowed non-English names (via Unicode strings). Not sure if that approach either is a non-English programming language (since it also supports English and mixing non-English with English). E-Slate components supported multiple languages too in their Logo commands via the same Java resourcebundle-based mechanism  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:886C:6400:A5ED:873F:50C3:13A7 (talk) 23:58, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  mixing languages 

message: I propose List of Chinese programming languages be merged into this article. Chinese programming languages are in the scope of this article, and there aren't so many of them that they need to be in their own article. It would also help to only have one place where this information is displayed. Enterprisey (talk!) 20:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: With no objections for over a month, doing the merge now. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:24, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal (List of Chinese programming languages) 

message: The majority of the languages listed here seem to be non-notable proof-of-concept languages that have only been mentioned in self-published sources by their authors. Even many of the ones that have Wikipedia articles don't seem to have been mentioned in reliable sources at all, such as Ezhil (seemingly no mentions in either English or Tamil sources) and Fjölnir (the only sources that exist are by the author himself).
I don't feel "has been mentioned in a secondary source" is a very strict criteria for inclusion, but we'd probably be left with only a handful of languages.
 
--213.220.68.156 (talk) 21:23, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion criteria  

message: I have removed the following entries because I could not verify their existance:
* Jeem (C)
* Bing Zhengzheng (English C++) 
--213.220.69.42 (talk) 21:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fun English! 

message: I'm a bit confused by the "link" section of the programming languages table. Sometimes they are formatted as citations (useful for their inclusion in the references section), while other times they are manual numbered links (which is liable to failure/inaccuracy when new languages are added). 
I'd vote the article take a consistent stance and use citation format for all of them, but would love to hear reasoning behind links instead if folks feel strongly. Darling58 (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link vs Citation formatting?