Talk:Integrated development environment

message: I'd dispute the neutrality of this article.
It's very telling that anjuta and emacs are the only IDE's featured in photos.
While either can be used as an integrated development environment so can almost any scriptable editor.
There should be more focus on the historical (past and present) major players.
On the dominant desktop platform that would be Visual Studio.
For the dominant tablet that would be XCode.
On Linux, there are many choices. 
Not to mention non C/C++ IDE's.  It might be nice to talk about the old SmallTalk environments.  Especially given the connection to Objective-C.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B817:82A0:D454:726E:5AFE:C47E (talk) 06:08, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: I would like to start python IDE list or comparision, but as long as I'm Eric Python IDE developer it might be threatened as advertisement. What do you think? countryhacker 18:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Python IDEs 

message: How in the world can you have an article about IDEs and not include probably the most used and influential, Visual Studio, and the history of, starting with Visual Basic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.66.155 (talk) 07:10, 28 March 2006
That's easy. It didn't bring anything new. And it is not influencing anyone.  Unlike Smalltalk, which is misisng from the story.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.206.228 (talk) 21:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL! that's just open source cult bullshit! BTW smart guy, Smalltalk is a programming language, not an IDE ! With best regards, a junior Software Engineering student ;) 60.51.94.253 (talk) 07:11, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Different commenter here.  The previous dude was right, Visual Studio should have been mentioned.  Off the top of my head I can think of 3 major contributions. It is a major player and like it or not, they innovate.  KDevelop, MonoDevelop, Eclipse, XCode, and many others have been heavily and visible influenced.
    1. Edit & Continue for statically compiled languages.  
    2. Numerous advancements in intellisense.  Arguably the first of its kind.  Yes I'm aware of smalltalk.
    3. Document Overview scroll bar (now integrated into Sublime Text and many others).  Started as the research project Rock Scroll.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B817:82A0:D454:726E:5AFE:C47E (talk) 06:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visual Studio 

message: Added a few lines to give the user an idea of what a multi language IDE could implement. I used the Eclipse IDE as the example. IchBin 04:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi language IDE 

message: Someone should fix the section with said title.  Are the arguments for or against Integrated development environment?  I wouldn't know because I am not versed on the issue and only found this article looking up information on adobe flash player.REscano 00:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I first read it as a review of the quarrels between IDE and Unix people, but then the section morphs into a review of the popularity of IDEs on different platforms. More than a title change is needed. JöG 08:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arguments 

message: What does this section do here? As far as I can tell, it's orthogonal to the IDE concept, although I assume most programming environments for those are IDEs. I suggest removing the section entirely. JöG 09:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visual programming? 

message: "Integrated Development Environment" is taking me here i.e. "integrated development environment".  IDE is a technical terminology and therefore it should be the former instead of latter.  Maybe a move should be considered to show the world that geek's know english? :) Hassanfarooqi 18:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, WP:CAPS reserves that form for proper names (and trademarks, &c.), which category the title of this article does not fall under.  Incidentally, technical term; the latter; geeks; English. EdC 23:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it should stay here.  IDE does not imply that the proper non-acronym version should all be capitalized.  The guidelines are pretty clear on this.  This page should stay where it is. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Integrated Development Environment 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:NetBeansIDE.png

message: (sorry for posting this here, but I imagine no one is watching the category talk page).
Wouldn't it make sense to also organize this category into subcategories based on which programming language a given IDE is for? For example, have subcategories like :Category:Integrated development environments for Python/C++/R/etc.; a page like, for example, Dev-C++ could be in both :Category:Open source integrated development environments and :Category:Integrated development environments for C++. IDEs that are not specific to any one language could just be in the big category. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 17:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Integrated development environment]] 

message: The article currently contains the sentence:
"""However, because an IDE is by its very nature a complicated piece of software, this high productivity only occurs after a lengthy learning process."""
This needs references.  Please reference why an IDE *must be* a complicated piece of software, and why the UI must take a long time to learn.  Provide convincing evidence that current IDEs are as intuitive and well designed as any future IDE may possibly be.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.45.4 (talk) 15:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  references, accuracy 

message: why does "Software Development Environment" redirect here when there's a statement at the top of the article explicitly saying that they're not the same thing? 157.130.20.218 (talk) 20:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Software Development Environment 

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message: The nav template at the bottom of this page Template:Integrated development environments for C and C++ is specifically for C/C++ .  A template that includes other languages besides C/C++ is needed.  A number of other comments have mentioned this.  I would like to fix it if nobody has objections.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexamies (talk • contribs) 14:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong template at the bottom of the page 

message: What happened here? It's too much for describing what an IDE is in general. Galzigler (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This happened:  (ip edit). I reverted it since it looks not like an improvement at all and doesn't have any change note at all. --JonnyJD (talk) 21:25, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead section 

message: Why does the article start with "integrated or interactive"? The remainder of the article doesn't mention "interactive" at all. Should we drop this term? Are there any arguments in favour of or against the term "interactive"? It looks like this article is about the Integrated and not about the Interactive Development Environment.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xtalkprogrammer (talk • contribs) 23:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integrated vs. Interactive 

message: I don't think that the "Gosling quotation" adds anything to the History section. The quotation doesn't provide additional information about the history of IDE's. The quotation doesn't even refer to any IDE and is in no way related to the preceding statement about creativity. The quotation should be deleted from the article. Xtalkprogrammer (talk) 22:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. I thought it was awkward and out of the place the first time I saw it. I vote to remove unless some manner of context can be added. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 14:10, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the quotation today. --Xtalkprogrammer (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gosling 

message: At location ref #5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment#cite_note-5), the link https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/Developing-with-Emacs.html behind ""Use Emacs with Microsoft Visual C++ ... use Emacs as an IDE"" is dead.
  
Should it be https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/ede.html ?
Cnemuodc (talk) 22:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: In the section on History, the phrase  graphical IDEs prevalent in 2015 has been replaced with graphical IDEs popular as of 2015. I don't think "popular" is the correct word here. Integrated Development Environments are currently dominating the word of software development. If you want to develop for mainstream platforms like Android, iPhone, Windows, OSX and Linux, you're more or less forced to use an IDE at some stage of the development process. Perhaps you could use a text editor and a separate compiler for some time, but when you try to submit your app to a market place or if you want to distribute your code in a way that is easily accessible to other developers, you're almost forced to use an IDE. Therefore, I'd say IDE's are dominant, or prevalent if you want, rather than popular. Whether or not IDE's are popular simply isn't the issue here. --Xtalkprogrammer (talk) 22:22, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular vs Prevalent 

message: Program development environment redirects here, I categorized it as synonym. If it's not, kindly correct it. Happy editing, Paradoctor (talk) 01:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Program development environment 

message: The article starts by saying that IDEs aim to maximise programmer productivity. 
A major barrier to programmers, and especially people new or rusty in their programming, like me, is finding a simple IDE that provides access to useful but not vast amounts of functionality. 
There is educational software with similar aims to this. 
Could there be a section that briefly discusses some easy to access and use IDEs, primarily for self education. 
Then provide a few links to relaxant information for more detail. 
IDEs are good for people who are dedicated to spending a lot of time developing and are prepared to spend a lot of work on using a good IDE because they will get a lot of benefit from it. 
I am looking for something that gives possible users a taste of what is available and allow them to do something useful quickly and simply, with little initial learning overhead.
I expect there will be quite a few language dependent IDEs that meet this criteria. I wonder if there are many more flexible ones as well. 
I would guess most will be web based. Some comments on such easy to use IDEs that work offline on tablets and smart phones would be great. 
I believe this could help increase the number of people who get back into some real programming. CuriousMarkE (talk) 05:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introductory IDEs