Talk:Valparaiso, Indiana

message: I am not going to edit this until I sleep on it, but I certainly don't think Valparaiso can be described as a suburb of Chicago. It has a largely independent economy, and takes little of it's cultural or ethnic identity from Chicago. The regional accent is different, and more aligned with central Indiana. The economy includes commuters, but they are a small percentage and there is no viable bus, train, or any other method of public transportation between Chicago proper and Valparaiso. While it may be correct that Chicago is the next big town insofar as one must go there to find and apple store, it is also true that one can buy a mac at the best buy without leaving town. 
Also, Valparaiso was not founded as an expansion of Chicago as were its true suburbs. I cannot think of one business that exists in Valparaiso in order to serve Chicago's demands for goods or services.
It is also worth mentioning that quite a few citizens of Valparaiso are quite resentful of new growth, and especially of any of that growth that is fueled by Chicago. I have a feeling that if you took a survey of people who have lived in Valparaiso for at least twenty years, you would find that they absolutely do not consider it a suburb of Chicago, but if you were to ask people who have moved there in the past ten, you would find they increasingly do (although I still doubt you would get a majority)...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfred Lord Tenniscourt (talk • contribs) 04:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: The noteable people section seems a bit biased on Chase Caldwell, His Wikipedia page (recently created) was tagged by another editor as pure vandalism. It seems this is also. Dragoon478 (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chase Caldwell 

message: For the Notable people section, a good rule to follow in college towns like this is if the person in question only lived in the city while a student, then they should be listed on that university's notable alumni section, but not in the city article. Typically, notable people for a town are those that grew up in a city or lived there for an extended period of time (i.e. considered residents). As such, yes, there will be several who overlap as both being from Valpo and alumni of VU, but most VU alums won't be listed here. That not only helps keep the lists under control, but keeps the VU list from simply being completely duplicated here.
For notable faculty, yes, they should be listed in the notable people section (or separate list if it exists) if a reliable source is provided that states they actually live(d) in the given city. Just because someone works at VU doesn't mean they actually live in Valparaiso. And yes, that means in the city limits. 
I placed a "See also" to the VU notable people list in the Notable people section here since they are related, but still separate. See List of people from Kent, Ohio and Kent, Ohio#Notable people for examples of a similar college town. --JonRidinger (talk) 17:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: Exclusion of black residents is an unfortunate but central part of Valparaiso's history. Since I know this is a controversial topic, I want to propose my edit to the History section here before adding it. It would go after the paragraph about Valparaiso University and before the paragraph about Valparaiso's role as a transport hub.
"From the 1890s until 1969, there were no African-American residents in Valparaiso. This has been attributed to Valparaiso being a sundown town. There was also substantial activity by the Ku Klux Klan, which negotiated to purchase Valparaiso University in 1923.  The first African-American family to move to Valparaiso faced intimidation and eventually left the city when a visiting relative was murdered. In recent years, the city's racial composition has diversified."
To clarify the reference to the book Sundown Towns, on page 67 it says, "I identified a total of 231 Indiana towns as all-white. I was able to get information as to the racial policies of 95, and of those, I confirmed all 95 as sundown towns. In Indiana, I have yet to uncover any overwhelmingly white town that on-site research failed to confirm as a sundown town. Ninety-five out of 95 is an astounding proportion; statistical analysis shows that it is quite likely that 90 to 100% of all 231 were sundown towns. They ranged from tiny hamlets to cities in the 10,000-50,000 population range, including Huntington (former vice president Dan Quayle's hometown) and Valparaiso (home of Valparaiso University)."
I am interested to hear either more proposed sources or criticism of the validity of the cited sources, especially from Magnolia677.
Wyattgclarke (talk) 23:09, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The two sources from nwi.com are behind paywalls, and this source is a library entry for a book about sundown towns which says only "Includes information on...Valparaiso (Indiana)".  As long as your sources support your text it would be a useful inclusion. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:40, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add history of excluding African Americans