Talk:J. Z. Knight

message: I found a website  that says that "While she [JZ Knight] is channeling, her posture, walk, voice and the color of her eyes changes." Does anyone know if the colour of her eyes do change? If the colour of her eyes do change, is there a scientific reason for this change? DarthVader 23:06, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The article on the website was written by a student, as most articles on that websites. As a result, some articles are good, some are bad, and a few contain huge blunders, such as the one on my former religious group that confuses Shirdi Sai Baba with Sathya Sai Baba. For the last few years I have requested an update, first to Jeffrey Hadden and then to Douglas Cowan, but without result. Andries 23:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please use the book by J. Gordon Melton with caution because it is really biased in favor of Knight and against the critics. I have it at home, but I have not read all. Reading the book convinced me that some of the criticisms made by Anton Hein and Rick Ross against Melton are justified, though I believe, in contrast to Ross and Hein that Melton is sincere. Andries
Her eyes do change color when He is in the body, I have personally seen it. It is not the same person. I have also seen him manefest something out of thin air into his hand, and have numerous experiences that what he teaches is truth. 216.227.110.143 (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Eye colour change?

message: Categories have been changed in accordance with the recent Arbitration on the paranormal, specifically 6a) Adequate framing, and Cultural artefacts. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 21:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category change

message: I'm troubled by the opening sentence which declares that J.Z. Knight "...is a channel".  My understanding of the term is that it is a supernatural claim (to be a conduit for some sort of external consciousness).  Since there is no proof that Knight is a channel, I've taken the liberty of inserting "claims to be".  Any well-reasoned objections? Bricology (talk) 02:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here you go for a explanation (: Cultural artefacts ——Martinphi    ☎ Ψ Φ—— 21:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "...is a channel"? 

message: Hi Wikipedia,
I'm trying to correct what appears to be a statement taken out of context on JZ Knight's page.  On the page it says that JZ Knight says that "murder isn't really wrong or evil".  But in the source material, it says that JZ says that murder isn't really wrong or evil "if you believe in the continuation of life [reincarnation]."
Here's the text from source document:
With this logic, suicide becomes simply a decision not to go ahead with a life plan but instead recycle to another to complete one's karma. J.Z. Knight, channel for Cro-Magnon entity Ramtha, says that murder isn't really wrong or evil. "If you believe in the continuation of life [reincarnation] it's a different story," she said on ABC's "20/20."28
Can you advise?  Thank you.
LCO3 (talk) 01:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the page and added "if one believes in reincarnation" after "murder isn't really wrong or evil" to make it clear. ¬ jujimufu (talk) 11:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible statement taken out of context 

message: I chopped this statement from the intro, because the source is a radio station she appeared on and is obviously just a blurb provided by her or her management. Also, the 'UN-affliated' conference is never named, making it so vague as to be non-notable.
Knight also participated as a speaker at an international women's conferences affiliated with the United Nations.
Ashmoo (talk) 12:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious sources

message: So her birthplace and time are Roswell, New Mexico, 3 years before the supposed crashing of a UFO there? that seems a little too much like something she might have made up herself. Alternatively it may just be vandalism. What are the sources for this? --129.11.13.73 (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is interesting, but constitutes original research. Furthermore, assuming JZ Knight's birth date is the 16th of March 1946, I am curious as to where you discovered that the Roswell UFO incident occurred on/or around the 16th of March 1949. The Roswell incident occurred sometime in June or July (it's is ambiguous as the various reports of the first discovery of the debris vary) in 1947, which doesn't seem very significant. ¬ jujimufu (talk) 13:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, I was writing from memory and was obviously mistaken about the date. However I'm still a little skeptical about it! --129.11.13.73 (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

text: No worries - it happens to the best of us :) Why are you still a little skeptical about it? ¬ jujimufu (talk) 10:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  birthplace 

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message: Simply a verbatim regurgitation at length of Knight's product catalog.  An ad, more than an encyclopedia entry.  
4 Writings
    4.1 Books by Knight
    4.2 Ramtha books
    4.3 Ramtha's Fireside Series
5 Audio recordings
6 Video recordings 
... 
External links
JZ Knight's official website  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdcntx (talk • contribs) 23:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extensive listing of Ramtha products sold on linked vendor's site amounts to free advertising copy, courtesy of Wikipedia 

message: I read the whole article and feel like I have no more information about their teachings than I started. I understand that it is likely a hoax, but that is all this focuses on. I don't believe in Tengrism either, but at least I get an idea of its concepts from reading its article. This whole entry is a mess. --172.58.97.190 (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of Information 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: J.Z. Knight has been involved with numerous financial scams and grifts tied into Ramtha conspiracy theories. I'm concerned that this article pushed an aire of legitimacy that she does not deserve. 
J.Z. is a run of the mill new age grifter and in my opinion her page here does not at all reflect the reality of her "career". Several of the cited sources with big names like Larry King are well beyond dubious. We're linked to archives of pages that are purported to be "secondary transcripts". Marthfox6040 (talk) 11:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  J.Z. Knight financial scams