Talk:List of oil spills

message: Should it not be ordered by size? 218.102.68.100 12:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not 100% what you mean by changeable.  I do know that I can sort the chart though based on any field.  I use internet explorer. NickCT (talk) 15:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't working when I asked. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 06:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

text: The source for the table is listed in chronological order to make it easier to enter and edit data.  However, the displayed table can be sorted on any column by clicking the [><] box in the header row. Johnson487682 (talk) 17:36, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't think so, because volume (whether litres, gallons, or barrels) would have more zeros after each number, and this would make the values less readable.  Tonnes can be easily converted to volume using the factors given at the top of the page. Johnson487682 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

text: The "Occurred" table is already sortable.  You can easily sort by size, date, or any other column:  just click the box at the top of the column.  Click here for examples of how sortable tables appear in your browser and other information. Johnson487682 (talk) 13:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ordered by size 

message: The links should be used and formatted as references, hopefully removing the need for their own column altogether.  Any links that are not references should be removed or moved to the external links section. --Ronz 15:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Link" column

message: Locations of oil spils are not very precise, and I know some of them such as Erika's (1999) or Prestige's (1999) to have flown very far from the location, at the English Channel limits for the lattest. 82.240.207.81 (talk) 23:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

message: No article on this? i believe it was a major spill outside the sf bay, with political/environmental consequences. mercurywoodrose.75.61.128.148 (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a link to a source, please provide it.  Better yet, just update the article (but only if you have a verifiable source.  N2e (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 1971 oil tanker collision off golden gate bridge

message: 1. 1971 oil tanker collision off golden gate bridge
"While serving at the Presidio in 1971, [now retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Harry Humphry] Mellon was responsible for coordinating the massive Federal Cleanup effort after the collision of two oil tankers under the Golden Gate Bridge."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Humphry_Mellon
There does not appear to be a wiki for this spill.
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_oil_spill_%28Chalmette,_Louisiana%29
states The Murphy Oil Spill was a "1,050,000 gallon spill." I believe this is correct. The Murphy Spill is also noteworthy because, among other things, it was perhaps the largest of many poorly documented spills in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
3. If your favorite oil spill is not in this wiki, check here:
http://www.marinergroup.com/oil-spill-history.htm
Banjoboye (talk) 01:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Is #1 possibly the same oil spill that is mentioned by 75.61.128.148 in the previous section? Johnson487682 (talk) 19:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  these are discrete spills that where possible should be listed separately. --emerson7 15:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:   Johnson487682 (talk) 16:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Although I find these articles (1 2 3) corroborating the spills linked above, I can't find details for the dates and quantities associated with each individual spill.  I've only found "2008 and 2009" and total estimates of "280,000 barrels" and "could be as much as 10 million gallons" (i.e. 238,000 barrels). Can anyone find better details? Johnson487682 (talk) 16:38, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Oil Spills Not Yet Listed in this Wiki

message: What about the BP spill in Aug '06? 
203.218.227.203 03:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference? Kittybrewster  ☎ 07:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  - Kittybrewster  ☎ 06:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  BP spill in Aug '06 

message: Quick suggestion- what are folk's thoughts on adding an additional column which give the owning &/or operating company of the vehicle / facility?  --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 22:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's potentially contentious, because adding names to the list implies blame, but the owner/operator isn't necessarily found to be at fault in each case.  If anyone wants more information about owner/operator, they can click through the link to the original article/story. Johnson487682 (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Johnson467682 for the same rationale s/he articulated. N2e (talk) 17:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Johnson467682.  I know how much everyone likes pointing the finger at BP recently, but this isn't a great idea. NickCT (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I'd have to agree with the original suggestion, though I'd make the column for the OWNER of the oil that spills.  They are the ones that chose the operator and operations that lead to a spill.  The owners of the oil often try to hide behind people (operators) and things like where a ship was registered. Swan-PNW (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How can anyone define an "owner" of oil that hasn't been collected yet? Johnson487682 (talk) 13:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Column for Operating Company 

message: per MOS:FLAG, i should think the country flag is sufficient enough to identify the location of the these spills, and the secondary and tertiary flags are just kruft that impedes page loading. --emerson7 20:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  flagicons 

message: i'm wondering if it might be better to list 'country' in the location field first to help facilitate a better column sort. --emerson7 12:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The "location" sorting works great now--great suggestion! Johnson487682 (talk) 17:42, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  location column  

message: The entries in this column are being handled a little inconsistently.  Some spills have names (e.g. "2010 Great Barrier Reef oil spill"), others are listed by the vessel that was the source of the spill (e.g. "Full City oil spill"), and other spills came from an immobile source (e.g. "Jiyeh power station oil spill").  Also, many entries in this column begin with a date, making sorting problematic.
I propose changing the column title to "Source" and listing every entry with simply the name of the vessel (e.g. "Full City") or other source (e.g. "Jiyeh power station"), and then appending a popularly-known name in parentheses if applicable (e.g. "Shen Neng I (2010 Great Barrier Reef)") in order to provide a link to the wiki article about the spill (if one exists).
I also suggest eliminating the words "oil spill" from entries, because that is the topic of the page, and they are all oil spills. Johnson487682 (talk) 13:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems reasonable. NickCT (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: omitting 'oil spill' does seem reasonable, but i'm not sure changing the column heading to 'source' would be that helpful since in many cases the the source is not what the spill is known by. --emerson7 15:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the general idea of rationalizing that column.  I don't think merely removing "oil spill" fixes it though.  I think it would be helpful to know if the source was from a ship, overland pipeline, subsea pipeline, above ground wellhead, subsea wellhead, storage tank, or what?  The name itself often does not convey this information.  So could we add the source name and also the source type in that column?  Other ideas? N2e (talk) 17:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It would seem that the first column should simply be "Name".  This column should be the designator of the spill, and simply used to differentiate from other spills. The oil spills should be listed by name and not by vessel.  And, of course, the word "spill" itself is redundant.  The source of the name is not important, except that it be as universally recognizable and unique as possible.  Sometimes the name is used to imply the cause, but that is not always possible or accurate or to be expected.  Therefore, that should be avoided.  Accuracy is more important that implications.  Also, "Source" would probably not be a good idea since it is sometimes difficult to determine, especially if people confuse it with the cause.  Anyway, my two cents. - KitchM (talk) 03:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spill/vessel column 

message: It appears BP is now distancing themselves from the 700 ton per day (5,000 barrels) flow rate estimate according to this link.   They don't really seem have an estimate anymore.  In addition, BP says they are recovering about 5,000 barrels per day and everyone is agreeing they aren't recovering all that is being leaked.  So should the 700 ton low end estimate be eliminated and replaced with new "official" low end estimate of a little more than 1,600 tonnes (12,000 barrels/7.33 = 1,637)?  Thanks!  Patken4 (talk) 20:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. What's the source for the new low end estimate? Green Cardamom (talk) 21:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't seen anything recent with a lower estimate than the governments 12,000-19,000 re-estimate from last week, which is why I think 12,000 should be the new low estimate.  Quote from a WSJ article - "But some of the researchers who came up with the range of 12,000 to 19,000 say that is merely the minimum amount gushing out, not the lower and upper limits." Source.  Patken4 (talk) 22:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deepwater Horizon oil spill low end adjustment? 

message: The article should have a minimum spill size for inclusion, or some other metric for notability. The Nigeria Delta, for example, has over 300 oil spills every single year. Currently the article only lists 2 Nigerian spills, out of 10s of thousands that have occurred there over the past 50 years or so. 
The article appears to want to be a list of "major" oil spills, not "every" oil spill, which is too broad to be meaningful.  Green Cardamom (talk) 21:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What about keeping in this list only spills with more than 100 tonnes?--Evenfiel (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure quantity is a good metric.  Some small spills have a disproportionately large environmental or financial impact, or they are interesting for some other reason.  I contend that if a spill is sufficiently noteworthy for a person to go to the effort to write a wiki article about it or add it to the list on this page, it deserves to be here.  Conversely, we don't need to aggressively seek out and add to this list every barrel that gets tipped over. Johnson487682 (talk) 13:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If a spill results in significant third party coverage, enough to establish WP notability at the time of the occurrence, it should be included here. if no article is written yet, references showing the likelihood of an article being written. we have one here, the 1971 sf bay oil spill, which was highly notable at the time in the region, and will eventually get an article written about it. I agree volume of the spill is not a good metric. a small spill in the wrong area could easily garner a lot of attention.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

text: I strongly agree. - KitchM (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minimum size for inclusion 

message: Anyone editing this article should note the obvious: prior to the gulf spill, this article got about 100 hits per day. now its getting over 2000 hits per day. this is a very important article serving as a gateway for people researching the subject.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, indeed!  This has become a significant nexus for ongoing research regarding non-renewable resources usage and the related ecological impact.  It remains one of the most important articles in the 'pedia. - KitchM (talk) 03:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article importance

message: I added a row for multiple spills in Louisiana following Hurricane Ivan (http://www.darrp.noaa.gov/library/pdf/IvanPADR_FINAL.pdf).  I know there were also multiple spills in the Gulf of Mexico at the same time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article533379.ece says 7 oil rigs were sunk, 24 were badly damaged, and many pipelines were ruptured), but I can't find details.  Can anyone help? Johnson487682 (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hurricane Ivan 

message: With the formula of days times 1,400/12,000. I'd love to do it, as it makes more accurate -- but is it accurate? or allowed? Thank you. Teafico (talk) 19:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The total accumulation is being updated every few days.  The formulas in use are listed in the wiki source.  You're welcome to take a turn updating the total, but don't change the formula without adding a reference for an updated flow rate estimate.  Johnson487682 (talk) 14:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we update the min/max spilled tonnes from the Deepwater Horizon every day? 

message: When discussing the Peace River (Alberta) spill of April 29, 2011, several sources (such as this) have compared it to other nearby leaks:
* 1975 Bow Valley leak (40,000 bbl)
* 2005 Slave Lake leak (930 bbl)
Neither of these leaks are on our list, but I can't find third party verification of these other leaks.  Can anyone else find a pre-Peace River source for these leaks, especially giving the exact dates of the leaks? Johnson487682 (talk) 14:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peace River references 

message: I have created a stub for the 1971 San Francisco Bay oil spill (added link from here), and all the sources i can find list the volume of oil at 800,000 gallons. Can this be right? if so, doesnt that make it a seriously major spill?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:33, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, your sources show 840,000 gallons, which is 20,000 barrels or 2700 metric tonnes.  That puts it in the bottom 1/3 of the list of oil spills.  I'm sure it is very significant from the perspective of the SF Bay environment, but there are a lot of bigger spills in the list.  It is certainly noteworthy that it resulted in improvements to tanker safety and triggered the founding of several environmental groups, but I'm not sure you will find it significant enough to flesh out that stub into a full article. Johnson487682 (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 1971 sf spill

message: I'm currently working on an article about the Port Bonython oil spill which occurred on August 30, 1992 at Port Bonython, South Australia, Australia. Could a more experienced editor please add this event to this list? Many thanks. Danimations (talk) 07:43, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Johnson487682 (talk) 15:19, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Port Bonython oil spill]] article created 

message: U-boat.net says she was carrying 16K tons of oil when she went down. Should she be on this list?
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/3351.html
©Geni (talk) 11:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Empire Heritage

message: Hi all, I've recently started exploring Newspapers.com to aid my WP contibutions and have to say, it's an impressive archive and should be of great use to people with an interest in this topic. Here's a relevant clipping which points to some spills in the Gulf of Mexico- I'm not sure if all are in the list at present. Note that I've taken a 'clipping' from the site... this allows viewers who aren't subscribers to the site to view the article's full text (in limited resolution)- a useful mechanism for allowing other editors/site visitors to check your references easily. 
Example: http://www.newspapers.com/clip/1616744/alvenus_oil_spill_disaster_of_1984/
Danimations (talk) 02:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gulf of Mexico - prior spills ref. & tip re: archive at Newspapers.com 

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message: This incident still isn't included in the list. Tens of thousands of gallons of oil were spilled in the Gulf of Mexico two days ago. Jarble (talk) 04:30, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: by someone. Johnson487682 (talk) 13:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: 2016 Gulf of Mexico oil spill

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message: What about the oil spill from a tank in Basilicata (Italy).
There were about 400 metric tons of oil spilled underground from a storage tank, although the company claimed to have recovered about 200 tons.
This happened between August and November 2016.
Here two links to newspaper's articles:
http://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/news/home/886254/l-eni-ammette-petrolio-sverato-sui-terreni.html
https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/premium/articoli/eni-ammette-sversate-400-tonnellate-di-petrolio/
The incident happened because they were using a single hull storage tank.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luca.Casamassima (talk • contribs) 08:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oil Spill in Basilicata (Italy) 

message: This seems to be out of chronological order.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.200.241 (talk) 13:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Port Erin 

message: the article carefully keeps the name of certain companies out of certain disasters
the BP oil spill in the gulf is in the list, has "united states" as the place, but uses "horizon" not BP as the source
being "the largest" in the list you think they could get the company names straight away
and bye the way what was BP doing in USA/MEXICO gulf anyway?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:143:400:547B:2116:B6F3:16A7:9966 (talk) 13:49, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And 'bye' the way, what was the US doing in the Middle East anyway? 2601:CF:300:4B70:643C:CC72:3BE4:4FD6 (talk) 14:52, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

text: Adding the names of companies was discussed and the consensus was to not add this information, for essentially the same reasons you have expressed.  However, one user chose to do it anyway.  When I confronted him about it and requested he revert his changes, he chose not to.  You may feel free to remove the "Owner" column, if you have time for it. Johnson487682 (talk) 18:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  this is a troll list ? 

message: The Northeast Brazil oil spill is happening right now and the cause is still unknown. Erick Soares3 (talk) 00:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazil 2019 

message: I have removed this from water pollution, should it be added to the table?: The largest petroleum spill that has ever occurred in fresh water was caused by a Royal Dutch Shell tank ship in Magdalena, Argentina, on 15 January 1999, polluting the environment, drinkable water, plants and animals.Petroleomagdalena.com . Petroleomagdalena.com (15 January 1999). Retrieved on 29 December 2012. EMsmile (talk) 02:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argentina oil spill in 2020? 

message: If the numbers are true, than these ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96lkatastrophe_in_Westsibirien , German Wiki) is entirely missing. I also did not see anythong of that: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96lkatastrophe_im_Nigerdelta 2002:5DD1:5F22:0:C588:FD64:7B78:961E (talk) 10:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian/Siberian Oil spill 

message: Off the coast of Japan, the Crimson Polaris split. We have an article for the Crimson Polaris, and I noticed it was missing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Polaris
Can anyone add this to the page? Thanks L27v (talk) 07:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Oil Spill from 2021