Talk:Victoria Silvstedt

message: natural bust?  Saccerzd 19:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  first hand knowledge? I should be so lucky.. giggidygooo!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.73.93.89 (talk) 10:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Natural?

message: I've removed the following mention "Silvstedt became a world-class member of the Swedish National Ski Team, ranking as high as fourth among her Olympic teammates in the Super-Giant Slalom, but a shoulder injury ended her skiing career at 16"  = hoax. This seems to be an anecdote absolutely unfounded in fact (cf. Official story of Ski Team Sweden) --92.138.235.203 (talk) 21:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it would help if some of those links given for references worked... Tabercil (talk) 14:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

text: According to your articles that you provided, the paragraph exaggerated several things. We know she was a member of a junior team, (not clear that it was a national youth/junior team if they exist). We know she placed 4th at a youth competition. Don't know exactly which one though. Saying she placed 4th among her future Olympic teammates is over the top, especially when she was never on the Olympic team. I suggest you provide links for all references in the article that are available online so that other people can easily and independently verify these claims. Morbidthoughts (talk) 18:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Ahem, I am an admin. As it stands, I can't check the references given to see just what was originally said... Tabercil (talk) 16:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Are there national youth teams in skiing like there are in soccer/football? Morbidthoughts (talk) 18:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

text: No. Based on wikipedia's policy on verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true." Wobel has given two independent sources published on the two largest Swedish newspaper sites that assert she placed 4th in some youth competition. You have provided no evidence these sources relied on some interview without checking their facts. If you wish to continue to dispute this assertion based on your hunches, please do so at the biographies of living people noticeboard rather than edit warring over this issue. Morbidthoughts (talk) 13:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Again, raise your objections at the Biographies of Living People Noticeboard. Do not edit war over something based on your hunches. Are the files publicly available so that "every wikipedian can easily check that"? Morbidthoughts (talk) 15:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

text: You can not compare the celebrity/culture/media sections of the two largest Swedish newspapers, Expressen and Aftonbladet, to the gossip magazines of France. It's like comparing the culture/celebrity/media section of Le Monde to the National Enquirer or TMZ. Like I said, present your dispute to the noticeboard so that other editors can review your arguments and see if they agree with you. I also suggest you create an account for yourself on wikipedia because you are using more than one ip address. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

text: First, the newspapers do not claim she is a national team member and her wikipedia article no longer includes this so ignore that matter. Second, post a notice on the noticeboard asking what you have to do to discredit the newspapers. You may have to forward the response emails from the swedish junior ski team (if one exist) and whatever relevant sport organization. Just remember the possibility that the junior competition or championship may not be sanctioned or official by whatever. Morbidthoughts (talk) 06:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Nice try Wodel ! but I prefer wait for official news about these facts. Just a few days or weeks. So far the early return are still negative on her skier past. But I'm waitng for a full justification on the topic. More over, If it would so clear about her skier track records, why is it impossible to provide us with the name of therace in question ?--86.218.174.73 (talk) 13:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

text: It's still possible that they were in the same race. According to Wiberg's wikipedia article, she was still competing in the juniors in 1988 and did not make her world cup debut until 1990. I have also posted your concerns on the noticeboard.  Morbidthoughts (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax (Swedish National Ski Team Member ?) 

message: VICTORIA SILVSTEDT Blogs Can you add blogs on her to do externa links, 
http://victoriasilvstedtvideos.blogspot.com/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaolieraaic (talk • contribs) 22:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No - take your blog crap elsewhere.06:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Per BLP, please don't post allegations & claims, particularly negative ones unless you have a Wikipedia:Reliable source. Nil Einne 17:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You and I may not like the reference source, but the fact the pictures appeared with an unsubstantiated allegation which we can't mention, but that she and her husband did get the page removed from Sky News is substantiated - and since, she's split up with Wragge. I reinserted with ref. There was some discussion on this point a while ago, and it was agreed to keep the ref but remove the allegations - which I note you purposefully removed. You may think you were removing those discussions for the right reasons, but they are on the talk page and didn't break the rules as you suggested in your edit summary - plus, each time that piece of gossip turns up, we have a solid point by which to substantiate our text as to why it says what it does. Rgds, - Trident13 00:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no need nor room for bullshitting in the article. Furthermore, I even see the word "gossip" in the above note here. There is Absolutely No Place in the Wikipedia for gossip of any sort - Get That Through You Cranium. This is not a Tabloid - and if you wish to write a tabloid, feel free to do so in lots of the do-it-yourself tabloids on the Internet. Lots of the allegations that you bullshitters wish to put forward, even if true, are not worth mentioning, and especially in an encyclopedia.74.249.93.54 (talk) 06:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biographies of Living Persons 

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message: Show several links in support of that by a verifiable third party. She only claims to but that is more vanity than truth. 108.46.134.60 (talk) 18:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm tired of this slow edit war. It wouldn't surprise me if she does earn millions a year, however this being a WP:BLP, we need to reference the information from a WP:RS. My Finnish extends to using Google Translate on the ksml reference—which yields: "The trendy fashion lady nets you a few million euros annually mallintöillään, television contracts and the various products in public relations works". Tabloids are not generally reliable sources, and I think it is pushing the bounds to accept one that isn't written in English. Is there another source supporting her earnings? Oh, and to the anonymous editor: please drop the conspiracy theories that she is somehow editing her own page. At WP we Assume Good Faith and stick to the issues. GFHandel ♬  20:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have an overwhelming suspicion that this editor is the same one who just got blocked from editing the Kara Young article.  Your best recourse might be to request semi protection for this page.Fasttimes68 (talk) 21:27, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I forgot to add, KSML is a broadsheet newspaper, not a tabloid.  And RS refs don't have to be in English per WP:NOENG. Fasttimes68 (talk) 21:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say it had to be in English, but since it isn't, and since no one here has admitted to knowing Finnish, the best I can generate from the source is the sentence: "Silvstedt earns millions of euros every year via television contracts, product promotion, and her public relations work". I propose using that sentence instead of the one in contention. GFHandel ♬  21:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

text: After reading the translation by hydrox, I agree with your assesment and think your edit make sense. Fasttimes68 (talk) 18:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I agree.  Protect the article to prevent socking while consensus is reached here.  I would also suggest protecting the talk page to auto confirmed editors to prevent socking in here while consensus is discussed. Fasttimes68 (talk) 20:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have semi-protected the article for two weeks while a consensus is arrived at here. I will leave this talk page for now as IPs may have valid opinions to present here. As always I will reserve the right to change my mind. I hope that a strong consensus can be arrived at about whether to include the earnings material. Are there any other bones of contention? Would a RfC be any help?  --John (talk) 20:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Well said.  FWIW i belive this editor is the same one who is being considered for a community ban over at ANI.  Fasttimes68 (talk) 13:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria does not earn millions a year... 

message: The edits are downright passionate. Only she could be this upset over simple non-verified facts being removed. Or verified facts that are unflattering being added. Someone should look into it. 108.46.134.60 (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I happened to write the Keskisuomalainen article -- that regional Finnish paper would have no special knowledge of Victoria Silvstedt's income and if that's the only source saying it, I would not include it.--Milowent • hasspoken 17:21, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, considering her versatile work history (a beauty pageant contestant - a high fashion model - a glamour model - an actress - a television presenter - a designer - a singer - a promoter - an author), a mention of her possible earnings "According to the Finnish broadsheet newspaper..." is reasonable, leaving it up to readers to decide how to react to the information. I don't know, if you indeed wrote the original newspaper article or not, or why would you write that she earns millions per year without having knowledge of her income, but the newspaper article does include a mention of her income, and I don't see a problem with having that mention featured in the Wikipedia article as well. But I do think that the phrasing is important, and should be kept as "According to the Finnish broadhseet newspaper..." as that phrase is very much a fact based on the published article also available on the Internet. Wodel (talk) 18:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think you misunderstood. He started the wiki article, not the RS article. 19:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Income material 

message: After the last round on this stunningly boring tidbit (see above) consensus says that the quote regarding the income material is ok.  But does it belong in the article in the first place? Fasttimes68 (talk) 18:59, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Income Material part 2 

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