Talk:Red Delicious

message: The article says "All Red Delicious apples are direct descendants of this original tree." They are actually clones, being spread by grafting, right? Thue | talk 19:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: This really should be a disambiguation page. I intend to make it so, barring a solid argument to the contrary. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect from "[[Red apple]]"

message: The mention of "major supermarket chains" in the NYT article is a case of spin.  There is no evidence that the major supermarket chains conspired to ruin the red delicious apple, despite the NYT author's attribution of such a belief to certain unnamed "these farmers."  There are sufficient quotes in the two referenced articles to establish what really happened:  consumers believed (or were led to believe) that the redder apples were better, marketers paid more for redder apples, and farmers started growing mutants which consistently produced more of the redder apples. Jay L09 (talk) 19:31, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Supermarket Chains 

message: Once upon a time, an Iowa farmer found a tree in his apple orchard with an unwanted shoot. He kept pruning it back, but it kept returning so he finally let it grow. He considered the apples it produced inferior, but they had an interesting shape. He named the apple Hawkeye. In 1885, Stark Brothers nursery in Ohio bought the propagating rights and introduced the apple onto the market with a big advertising campaign and new name—Delicious. Fisher called the Delicious apple “an apple actor” and thought such an inferior apple could only become popular in a nation where consumers “eat with their eyes” instead of their taste buds and olfactory receptors. Delicious apples are certainly not delicious and best left to sit in their grocery store displays.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.11.154 (talk) 13:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an interesting story (hoax) you tell, 208.40.11.154. So what does this fictitious apple have to do with the visually unattractive "Hawkeye" (Stark Delicious) bought by Stark Nurseries (not Stark Brothers nursery) in Missouri (not Ohio) no sooner than 1893 (not 1885) from a farmer who judged his entire spontaneous seedling tree (not an unwanted shoot on an orchard tree) that grew in an orchard full of apples with a similar interesting shape ("Sheepnose" or "Black Gilliflower") to be superior (not inferior)?http://www.imagesunlimitedpub.com/uploadedfiles/Delicious%20Apples%20and%20Their%20History.pdf  And who is this "Fisher"?  For the record, the original Delicious apple is quite delicious. It is hard to find simply because it does tend to be left in grocery store displays whenever accompanied by a modern "eye candy" mutant; no grocer wants to lose money for such a marketing mistake! (Thank you for putting your spurious story and POV in Talk, not the article itself)       —Jay L09 (talk) 06:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The delicious apple Hoax" 

message: I always wondered this.  Are they actually significantly more delicious than other varieties of apple?  If you could, it would be nice if this information could be added to the article. 65.78.144.196 (talk) 07:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "The Red Delicious originated at an orchard in 1880 as "a round, blushed yellow fruit of surpassing sweetness". Stark Nurseries held a competition in 1892[2] to find an apple to replace the Ben Davis apple. The winner was a red and yellow striped apple sent by Jesse Hiatt, a farmer in Peru, Iowa, who called it "Hawkeye". Stark Nurseries bought the rights from Hiatt, renamed the variety "Stark Delicious", and began propagating it. ---The article. (Jay L09 (talk) 14:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

text: In short, they are called delicious because they were called delicious: the person(s) at Stark Nurseries who judged the apple contest concluded that this apple was significantly more delicious than the other contestants.  In marketing the apple variety, Stark Nurseries wished to suggest that it was "actually significantly more delicious than other varieties of apple."  Was it? Is it? This is a matter of opinion, as some like their apples sweet, some tart, some crisp, some tender...  Jay L09 (talk) 14:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why are they called delicious? 

message: Fuck 2601:647:4501:2F30:7C0F:9A5B:1923:3574 (talk) 07:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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message: This is totally wrong.  The two things that nearly destroyed the Washington apple business in the early 90's were the Alar scare from a 6o minutes segment and granting China top level trading privileges in the US.  My brother owned an apple orchard at the time.  Before China was a first level trade partner, apple orchards could survive a bad year by selling their apples for juice.  They would not make any money, but they could pay for the expenses of growing the fruit.  After, the market was saturated with cheap juice from China, driving many growers to bankruptcy in a bad year. Grumpyoldgeek (talk) 23:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   By the 1990s, reliance on the now-unwanted 'Red Delicious' had helped to push Washington state's apple industry "to the edge" of collapse.