Talk:Books of Swords

message: This is kind of stubbish right now.  I plan in the near future to add some more information about characters and concepts.  If anyone wants to pitch in that is familiar with the series, by all means.  Here are some ideas I had to round it out:
* Characters
** Mark
** Ben
** Barbara
** Vilkata
** Wood
** Jord
** Draffut
** Emperor
* Concepts
** Gods
** Demons
** Magic
** White/Red/Blue temples
** ARDNA
Akerkhof 22:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article status after creation 

message: The knowledge of an person's true name granting power over them is not an inexplicable thing. It's a quite common belief in certain parts of the world, and this is just an adaptation of that 75.71.169.0 23:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes on magic 

message: Re:  Is yhe series that clear cut as to their earlier relationship and why they separated?  The present text seems a bit speculative/Original-researchy.  I haven't read the series for a while, but I think my impression was that the Emperor took advantage of her (A powerful man seducing a vulnerable young kid) but, unexpectedly, found himself emotionally drawn to her spirit.  I had thought they broke up because the emperor cheated on her and wanted to control her. Unless it is clearly stated, I think the only thing we can safely read into it is that they had a romatic relationship earlier in her life, during which the Emperor Fathered her child, and that Yambu broke up with him; she still harbors feelings of emnity towards him but he has always wanted to reconcile.  --Bertrc (talk) 18:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have the book handy for the quote, but the Emperor left Yambu after asking her to marry him.  She had just consolidated her power and was intending to tell him "no".  She turned to give an order to someone else, turned back to say no to him, and he had left before she did.  When they meet much later on the eve of the battle where she draws Soulcutter, he comments that he never got an answer and wanted it then.  I don't think there's any implication he took advantage of her, wanted to control her, nor cheated on her. Nite01002 (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  But what you describe above is during the series itself, no?  I guess I have an issue with "However, on attaining her throne, the two became estranged for many years, with the ambitious, proud and distrustful Yambu threatened by his power, masculinity and poor reputation. The Emperor repeatedly attempts to reconcile with Yambu throughout the series. When she is old and powerless, she finally agrees."  She is threatened by his masculinity?  I thought that they split well before the series started (and I thought Yambu implied it was because he was unfaithful and a controlling)  As written, the article makes it seem as though she shacks up with him to climb the social ladder; she dumps him like last year's fashions when she got what she wanted; then she comes crawling back once everything falls apart.  Way back when I read the series, I thought it was more: as a young girl she becomes cold and bitter when her heart was broken by a powerful, charasmatic older man (the Emperor); she channelled her resentment ala Xena into conquering the world; then she achieves enlightenment when she learns how much her drive to power cost her and decided to give the jerk another chance, now that they were emotional equals.  --Bertrc (talk) 01:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yambu and the Emperor 

message: With the publishing of the novel "Ardneh's Sword" we now know how the gods were created. They were the result of some special high tech suits created by Ardneh that granted the wearer godlike powers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF7B:3560:C57D:FB55:AF7C:FBCE (talk) 15:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The creation of the Gods 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I propose to merge Empire of the East series into Books of Swords. Since these two sets of books are set in the same universe, and discussion of either series consistently mentions the other series, I think they constitute one "topic" best served by a single article. It's possible that the merged article should be renamed to "The Ardneh sequence" (as this set of books is named in the List of works by Fred Saberhagen), or something else, though I currently prefer to keep "Books of Swords" since that seems to be how the series is usually referred to in the sources.  ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 22:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal