Talk:Saguaro

message: Maybe mention that it gets its name from Andrew Carnegie  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.213.34 (talk) 23:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, he is talking about the taxonomical/scientif classification. Skiendog (talk) 22:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Species

message: Does anyone know more about the life cylce of the plant that can add information about the 'nurse plants' referenced in the quote below?
::According to Saguaro National Park Biologist Don Swann, "...due to cattle and deforestation of local mesquite trees that serve as nurse trees for young Saguaros." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.69.137.39 (talk) 11:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nurse Plants 

message: It was a beautiful image, but I removed:
Image:single blossom small.jpg|Close-up of a flower
as it is copyrighted "All Rights Reserved" by the photographer, according to the image page. --NightMonkey 23:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyrighted image removed 

message: I'm entering a link to the Natural Resources Conservation Service database.  Can someone explain how easy it is for them to update their Map profile?  In Yuma County, Arizona, the Great saguaros continue to fluorish, and they alos live across the river in So. Calif., as their (CA) range map shows.  Its range proceeds Northwestward towards the Mojave Desert, and should also be included in the lower elevations of Yavapai County, Arizona.  So, I will enter these ( 2 ) range maps, and see if someone could get the USDA database updated with the two counties. --MichaelM..inYumaAZ--Mmcannis 04:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally, it is best to just add a single link to the main relevant page of an ext link (here http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=CAGI10 ) and then let people do their own navigating round the external site (it isn't our job to show what's where on extenal links!). If the info is incorrect, it's better not to add a link at all, and find a better one (e.g. the map at the Fl. N. Amer. page, already linked) - MPF 12:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi, Greg. There are two equally important requirements of a good Wikipedia article: it should not say anything that isn't true; what it does say should be based on reliable sources (see WP:RS). So it would be great to add more accurate information, but it has be be based on sources, not anyone's personal experience. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:47, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: NRCS USDA Arizona Range Map

message: I don't know enough about this plant to make the changes myself - I visited the page for information.   I found paragraph 4, about the flowers & fruit of the plant, to be very confusing.  Perhaps it was written by someone whose first language is not English?  Perhaps another editor might be able to improve upon it. Astonspider 01:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  clarity of description? 

message: The current text says that the Saguaro cactus takes 75 years to develop a side arm.  This is a little unclear:
1) what does "develop" mean?  do the arms ever stop growing?
2) can the cactus grow multiple side arms at a time?
Many saguaros have multiple arms, and they seem to grow on a regulsr basis together.  One plant I saw in a cemetery in the Tucson area has instead of a trunk above about five feet, two arms.
One large specimen observed NW of SR 188 on the old 'Grapevine Airport' road (led to an informal airstrip between the highway and Roosevelt Lake that was seldom used), had 48 live arms and around the base it was littered with a number of fallen arms.  Some of the arms came out of longer arms.  The cactus may have been larger than the 'Champion Saguaro' mentioned in the article.  The plant may have since died as I saw it over 20 years ago last and some that I know have been by the area say it no longer sppears to be standing. 
There was one with possibly 16 arms on SR 77 south of Kearney that was fairly close to the highway and quite visible as well, and there may be similar large specimens elsewhere.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.27.128.110 (talk) 01:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side Arms 

message: The article mentions the ribs of the saguaro, but does not elaborate. The only information about the ribs of the saguaro that the article contains is a picture of a dead saguaro.
It may be helpful to add a short description andor a diagram of the ribs of a saguaro. Such a description of the ribs would describe how many ribs there are, where they are found, how far under the surface of the plant they lie, etc. With this extra information, the other parts of the article that mention the ribs would make more sense. --<SPAN STYLE="font-family:monospace; color:#008800; background-color:#ffffcc; border:1px solid #ff4444;"> B.D.Mills </SPAN> (T, C) 05:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 10 years later, this article is still unclear. The article is unclear because it lacks a separate section for a description of the plant. This is unusual for articles about plants. Compare these articles: Agave americana (Century plant), Sequoia sempervirens (Coast redwood). The article would be greatly improved if a separate Description section was added and the article reorganised. <SPAN STYLE="font-family:monospace; color:#008800; background-color:#ffffcc; border:1px solid #ff4444;"> B.D.Mills </SPAN> (T, C) 03:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a short section on Saguaro ribs.  It could stand further expansion, though, or some of those pictures.  I suspect a lot of people don't know what's inside there and the "skeletons" are quite interesting.  I don't think many people have studied the wood in any depth, though.  Mostly, it seems to get used for rustic-looking knick-knacks these days, if at all.  Even harvesting a bit of it requires written permission.  68.2.210.216 (talk) 19:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ribs 

message: From the section on the fruit, what does 'The fruits are highly edible' mean? How are they 'highly' edible, rather than just edible? And shouldn't that be plural 'fruit'. 'Fruits' if you're talking about different species' fruits perhaps but the plural of one type of fruit is fruit.Number36 (talk) 12:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highly edible? 

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message: In the first sentence the word 'arborescent' is used, but I don't know whether that's intended to describe the saguaro's tree-like shape and character, or the woody structure of its trunk (I thought there are only woody ribs, not a solid wood trunk?). Anyhow, the term arborescent is linked to the eponymous concept in philosophy, which could conceivably if contrarily describe the plant's shape, although not its structure. In that article there was then a hatnote pointing those looking for the botanical meaning towards the article on woody plant, which would be right if arborescent here means the woody structure. Does anyone know which is the intended meaning, ie. which better describes the saguaro? Or would it be easier and clearer just to replace arborescent with 'tree-like' or words to that effect? DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In botany, it has the meaning that Merriam-Webster online gives: "resembling a tree in properties, growth, structure, or appearance", so I think that substituting "tree-like" in the lead is a good idea. Peter coxhead (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that was my first thought also, but didn't want to go ahead and just assume. Thanks for making the edit. DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:14, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arborescent? 

message: this is a general-interest article on an article with strong ties to the us; per MOSNUM us-customary units are appropriate.
-mcpusc (talk) 08:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly disagree. This is an article about a species of plant, primarily curated by WP:PLANTS. As such, it's a scientific article. Look at the list of references. Also the infobox is a taxobox, setting out the taxonomy of the species. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  units 

message: I want to add the fact that saguaros are protected into the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by THE SAGUARO IS THE BEST CACTUS (talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Conservativion" section already describes that. If you have a specific addition, please propose exact wording and provide a reliable source to back up your claim. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 00:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  I want to put something in Saguaro.  

message: I find the section As food" misleading as it seems to me to imply that it's inedible by humans, since the section makes no mention of human consumption; yet the later section Ethnobotany does. I suggest changing the title "As food" to "As food for wildlife", similar to the section "Food for wildlife" in the dandelion article, as one way of fixing this. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 14:18, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Coppertwig Good suggestion, implemented. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Food for wildlife and people 

message: The O'odham peoples views on the Saguaro and its importance to their culture could be added - their views as the cactus being people and its origins 
https://repository.arizona.edu/bitstream/handle/10150/550735/dp_02_01-002-061.pdf?sequence=1
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/sagu-saguaro-cacti-plant-story.htm#:~:text=The%20various%20O'odham%20peoples,increase%20protections%20on%20the%20species. Artemis1414 (talk) 19:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  culture 

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