Talk:Vajrayogini

message: I removed a section claiming, via Miranda Shaw, that Vajrayogini is the supreme figure in Tibetan Buddhism, above and beyond male buddhas. This is a total distortion by someone who has a vested interest in their own genitalia. It is to entirely miss the point. Vajrayogini is male and female. Insofar as she, the supreme and absolute, projects the manifestation of femininity as this supreme, so s/he does also with the male. Yes, she is the mother of the buddhas, even the 'mother of all the mothers of the buddhas' as has been said in scripture, but this does not mean that the father, Heruka, is less either in theory, or in practice. This has never been said - indeed, quite the opposite. To promote one over the other is to miss the entire point. 
Let's try to keep this kind of intrusion from modern ideologies and ideologues out of the picture. 
179.31.240.253 (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Can you give me the original reference to Miranda Shaw? I'd like to double-check what she says. I think you might both be right and it's a matter of nuance. In some of the Vajrayana lineages and sadhana cycles, Vajrayogini is the supreme figure without reference to Heruka at all. AND yes, she is the Mother of the Buddhas, etc. In other lineages, Vajrayogini and Heruka are co-equal. Thanks. AD64 (talk) 14:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keeping modern ideological distortions at bay 

message: On 13 March 2007 196.44.16.10 removed an external reference with the note
"Removed controversial reference". 
I'm archiving it here in case we decide that it should be restored. -- Writtenonsand 15:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External reference removed as "controversial": ''Guide to Dakini Land'', Gyatso, Geshe Kelsang 

message: Hi, it should be restored, Writtenonsand, in section Further reading It's about Buddha Vajrayogini.
:Austerlitz -- 88.72.5.43 (talk) 11:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Austerlitz -- 88.72.5.43 (talk) 11:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Austerlitz -- 88.75.76.245 (talk) 18:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please insert 

message: *Shri Kalika Devi
I've never heard her to be buddhist, too.
:Austerlitz -- 88.72.5.43 (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Austerlitz -- 88.72.5.43 (talk) 21:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kalika 

message: *Rainbow Dharma
*
*Five Dhyani Buddhas
:Austerlitz -- 88.75.206.74 (talk) 10:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Austerlitz -- 88.72.4.156 (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Austerlitz -- 88.75.205.190 (talk) 12:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color black 

message: *
:Austerlitz -- 88.75.200.81 (talk) 12:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forms of Vajrayogini 

message: *
* According to the listing here there is
"Mother Tantras.
Buddha Family.
Sarva-Buddha-Samayoga."
:Austerlitz -- 88.75.222.144 (talk) 10:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Austerlitz -- 88.75.222.144 (talk) 14:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Austerlitz, would you consider getting an account? Primarily, since your IP address isn't static, it would allow other editors to reliably contact you on your talk page. --Gimme danger (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sarva]]-buddha-dakini 

message: there are several teachings claimed to have been given directly by Vajrayogini, that one to Tsembupa, for example . Shouldn't we mention this fact, too?
:Austerlitz -- 88.75.196.36 (talk) 10:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  What do you by mean by "teaching by vision"? Are you referring to the way that some advanced practitioners, especially tertons, might receive teachings, commentaries and sadhana cycles directly from deities, in a kind of visionary state? Or do you mean that deities and gurus are teaching disciples via a visionary state? This might help clarify this particular topic. Thanks. AD64 (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teaching by vision