Talk:Metropolis

message: Conveniently left out?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:59A4:6100:D41:3DBF:FE29:DE32 (talk) 20:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Russia

message: What is Zagreb doing in the list of metropolis ??? That place is a village.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.108.68.214 (talk) 09:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Zagreb

message: Okay not sure about the pluralisation there - but just writing about the idiocy of having citi counted as metropolises. I've just deleted about 10 German cities that failed to meet any of the criteria. I've had to do similar things on the UK pages about metropolitan areas. Its rediculous - city pride just making people add their cities on here for no good reason. Way to go you like your city - but its not a metropolis just for that reason. It makes wikipedia practically useless if we can't keep to some agree standards.
:Maybe the cause of this problem is here: ".....a big city,[1] in most cases with over half a million inhabitants in the city proper,.....".
:"In most cases"; in what cases yes, in what no?
:As long as there isn't a definition, that gives a description that leaves no room for doubt, in a way they all can say their city is a metropolis.
:So as long as this problem still exists, it seems better, to leave the table away from this article. Like that it won't be necessary, to use as the decisive criterion, wheter it's a city, in which there is a subway ("metro") or not. James Blond (talk) 04:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps it could be an idea to expand the table also to include the population of the city proper and city's urban agglomeration (as mentioned in Cleanup and POV-Check on this talk-page), that way people would actually have to do a little research before they where adding "their" cities. Of course that would make the tables somewhat larger... /Hebster (talk) 18:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Others could do that too. James Blond (talk) 23:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly do you mean by that comment? I still think my idea is could work as a filter, though i'm also aware that the random insertion problem is decaded, compared to when i originally wrote the last comment. /Hebster (talk) 06:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Table of Metropoli

message: Since the United States section gives an alternate definition to the word, should it be with the general definition above the contents?      - JaKaL! 15:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure how useful that would be. That definition is really just for demographic purposes, and has little to do with how the word is generally used. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I was just wondering. I thought it would be best to ask. I'm kind of new at this. JaKaL! 17:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: US Definition

message: How come Prague is not indcluded in the European metropoleis? MiShogun 17:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prague 

message: Shouldn't there have been a little discussion before the removal of all those pictures? Who decided what stayed and what went? At the very least it would be helpful to broaden the image selection with a picture from each inhabited continent. Or if we're going with only two, it would be better to use the "most" metropolitan cities in the world, i.e. Mexico City and Tokyo. The two there now have an obvious bias for Anglophone Western Civilization. Please convince me and the rest of the editors of this page that there is some merit to leaving New York City and Johannesburg specifically or I will be bold and change the selection myself. I would prefer to see some discussion on this page about which cities are used for samples. Techgeist 18:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the remover of the images, I'm happy for Mexico City and Tokyo to be used - the important thing is to keep the images trimmed down to a sensible minimum. (But why do you condone being bold but then criticize me for removing images without prior discussion? After all, I was just being bold myself...) Metro Mover 18:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I condone being bold because it tends to break up stagnation through indifference or shyness, encouraging people to react and discuss the issue under question, which your action did, so I don't mean to say I think it was altogether bad. I myself feel that a large selection of images for the page helps to illustrate the concept of a metropolis and so don't necessarily agree that we should strive for a bare minimum. I'm sorry if my comment seemed hypercritical. I simply prefer to see some discussion before major changes to a page, which is what I was trying to do.Techgeist 23:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are far too many. At least get rid of a couple so that the pictures don't go further than the end of the writing!! Jake95(talk!) 21:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: This article has too many pictures. I will remove some of them. The criteria for removal are "smaller metropolis by population", and "non-Global Cities".The Fat Guy 11:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Done, but there are still too many pictures.The Fat Guy 11:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The collection of images is good, speaks volumes about the subject of the article. LordHarris 23:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the majority of the pictures into a gallery with good visibility on the page. The Shanghai pic is featured now, but with so many great pictures, any would be good. Bantosh 17:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: cleanup: unreasonable number of pictures + pov-check: many cities added are not metropolises. Lord, help us all. The Fat Guy 03:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Db1944 18:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me JeffreyN 01:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup and POV-Check 

message: I've tried to make a list of the issues, arguments, and proposed solutions. However, it seems to be difficult to reach a consensus. There are users boosting their prefered towns and claiming they are all metropolises. The article do not need a list of metropolises, world metropolises are well know and easy to find by anyone using the definition or not.The Fat Guy 10:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No consensus 

message: Encyclopedia articles are supposed to be about things, not words.  This article is fundamentally about the *word* "metropolis", not about the category of large cities.  Coming up with a consensus definition of the word, furthermore, drifts into the area of original research, and it does not reflect the way the word is used.  Usage is generally more poetic than technical
I also think it is wrong to say that the U.S. census definition of a metropolitan area amounts to the definition of a metropolis.  The two terms have diverged.
If we must have an article about metropolises, it should be about *really* big cities, say 2 million or more in the metro area.  Mark Foskey 01:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this even be an article at all? 

message: Novosibirsk was included into the section "Eastern Europe" but that Russian metropolis is located in "Northern Asia". Please, create a "Northern Asia" section with the cities of Novosibirsk, Omsk, Krasnoyarsk, Barnaul, Novokuznetsk, Irkutsk and Tomsk. Dontrustme 01:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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thread_title: Northern Asia

message: Jerusalem is stated as in Israel and palistine when it is ofcource just in israel his should be changed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.225.150 (talk) 16:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jerusalem

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Brussels Skyline.jpg

message: Changed the map text from "Cities with at least a million inhabitants in 2006" to "Cities with at least 500.000 inhabitants in 2006", because most of the dots on the map doesn't have over million inhabitants. (for example USA has only 9 cities with over a million inhabitants, and finland has none)Ilyushka88 11:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map text 

message: "(cur) (last)  22:11, 10 December 2007 83.186.4.105 (Talk) (36,950 bytes) (Undid revision 176491741 by James Blond (talk)) (undo)"
Why, which one(s) of the removed is/are more than 500.000 (and since when?) James Blond (talk) 05:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Motivation revert

message: Strange, all Brittish towns are under Northern Europe, while Amsterdam and Antwerp are Western-E. This, whereas the Brittish towns are situated more western than the Dutch and Belgian and not really more northern (some even more southern). The best solution of this matter seems to be dividing in Northwestern, Northeastern, Southwestern and Southeastern Europe. James Blond (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Northwestern Europe

message: In the image gallery, the caption for the image Las Vegas strip.jpg needs to be disambiguated from Las Vegas. While the photo is actually of the Las Vegas Strip, the context of the page would denote that the link should actually point to Las Vegas, Nevada with the link piped so as to render Las Vegas. Thanks! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 19:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation needed 

message: The section entitled contemporary metropolises should be removed to comply with WP:V. Reasons:
*Many of the cities in there are not a metropolis by the definition at the top of the article. Just an example of something that is blatantly false: the "Western Europe" section contains 8 cities from Belgium. Belgium has a population 10 million. Many more are also not metropolises by any definition.
*The most efficient way to improve this section is a full rewrite, based on sources, rather than checking the current list.
*The amount of work a rewrite would take means that this is unlikely do be done in the near future, leaving false information on Wikipedia.
*It most likely does not belong in this article anyway, and is redundant with List of urban areas by population and List of metropolitan areas by population.
User:Krator (t c) 15:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: yet, because this section is the focus of the dispute for which the page was protected. however, I do agree with your reasoning, and if there is an apparent consensus on this talk page, go ahead and put back the template. —Random832 19:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Thank you. This is exactly why having a big, cumbersome, unreferenced list of "metropolises" on this article is a bad idea. The pictures make it even worse. Why is there a gallery here? What is its purpose? I'm going to move it. If people want to look at lots of little thumbnails they can click on the link. - Aucitypops (talk) 00:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the whole "Contemporary metropolises" section 

message: Nottingham UK does not fit into the definition of metropolis. The population of the City of Nottingham proper is c.230,000. When the surrounding towns are taken into account the population is increased by around 500,000 to 730,000. So I have deleted it as the article expressly suggests that a metropolis is a population with 500,000 plus a further 1,000,000 in surrounding areas!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.198.79 (talk) 22:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. This is exactly why having a big, cumbersome, unreferenced list of "metropolises" on this article is a bad idea. The pictures make it even worse. Why is there a gallery here? What is its purpose? I'm going to move it. If people want to look at lots of little thumbnails they can click on the link. - Aucitypops (talk) 00:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nottingham is not a Metropolis

message: Does a source exist for the claim that "metropoleis" is a plural for the English word "metropolis"? The OED online (in its draft revised entry for "metropolis", dated as September 2008) makes no mention of it. The same can be said for "megalopoleis" as a presumed plural for the English word "megalopolis" - in the latter case the OED is even more explicit (it says "Plural megalopolises, (irreg. rare) megalopoli, megalopolii, megalopoloi"), and yet Wikipedia has an article titled List of megalopoleis. Thylacoleo (talk) 03:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Source for "metropoleis"?

message: : In the United States an incorporated area or group of areas having a population more than 50,000 is required to have a metropolitan planning organization in order to facilitate major infrastructure projects and to ensure financial solubility.
I don't think I've ever seen solubility used in this sense! —Tamfang (talk) 03:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  or part of the precipitate 

message: I changed the caption. It had previously read "thumb;" I changed it to read "Beirut." I just wanted to clear it with you guys, since I'm not a frequent, or experienced editor of wikipedia. Also, someone may want to expand my caption. The captions under photos of the other cities have more information in their captions, and the name of the cities is linked to that cities article. I'm pretty dumb when it comes to computers, and wasn't confident I could do a link without screwing it up, and I didn't bother looking up any other information for the caption. Still, I figured an unlinked "Beirut" had to be a better caption than "thumb."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.123.232 (talk) 18:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo of Beirut 

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message: The use of plurals in the article is roughly split between metropoles and metropolises. This can be confusing for the reader; a single plural form should be agreed upon and used throughout the article, for consistency. —capmo (talk) 12:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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message: I’m noticing that the article has way too many pictures. Not every metropolis needs a picture as it makes the article longer that it should. IBlazeCat (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment India is the only country with excessive amount of pictures, others are fine. James Ker-Lindsay (talk) 09:58, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive amount of pictures 

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