Talk:Acorn Computers

message: Today I added a lot of "Citationz Needed" to sections of the article. There are a lot of facts 
asserted without any ability to verify them.
--Flibble (talk) 13:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for references 

message: I wonder if anyone else remembers the Acorn World shows I attended as a child (apologies if that makes any senior Wikipedians feel, well, more senior...). I know they ended in 1998 with the demise of the company and they were just fairly standard computer shows. Anyone think it would be worth including a paragraph about them? DarkWedge (talk) 16:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acorn World 

message: The addition of this heading could allow for coverage of (amongst other things):
*Show organisation
*Clan Acorn
*Means of communication with developers
*Manufacturing locations (I believe some BBC micros were subcontracted but perhaps later on Acorn did all their own manufacturing)
*Overseas offices
There is such a section included at both Apple Inc.#Corporate affairs and Microsoft#Corporate affairs. Any objections? Any further subheadings? (It could be drafted in userspace first.) --Trevj (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: List of Managing Directors? Investments in other companies? joint ventures?--Flibble (talk) 16:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now made a (slow) start on this. I've no objection to that draft being added to by others before it's copied to the main article. --Trevj (talk) 15:16, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I spent a little time a while back looking up refs for the MD/CEO and Chairmam, here's what I have so far, User:Flibble/Acorn_Stuff#People--Flibble (talk) 18:13, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Corporate affairs': possible new section 

message: This edit removed the statement about ART working on Galileo. The statement was included because it's in the reference. Is anyone able to shed any further light on this, please (with refs)? Chrisbtoo, perhaps you have some first hand knowledge. Is Dick Pountain's article incorrect? Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 20:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ART 

message: Would it be clearer to move some of the content in Acorn Computers#Network Computers to Acorn Network Computer? A brief summary could of course be retained at Acorn Computers#Network Computers, per WP:SPINOFF. If this is not done, the two sections may need harmonising, in which case  can be used until that's done. --Trevj (talk) 08:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Meanwhile, ViewCall Canada was apparently a joint venture between ViewCall America and Manitoba Telecom Services, initiating a service called BeyondTV in late 1997 that used a set-top box called WebSurfer from Batra Group of Ontario. PaulBoddie (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Network Computers 

message: Splitting out some of the notable content could improve readability of the main article. Short summary style pieces would be included in the main article, based on the leads of the spinout articles.
#History of Acorn's 8-bit microcomputers
#*Some overlap with BBC Computer Literacy Project (currently a redirect but arguably is also notable enough for an article in its own right)
#History of the Advanced RISC Machine
#*Already some overlap with ARM architecture#History, so the spinout article could be referred to there as well
#End of Acorn Computers
#*Overlap with History of RISC OS#Demise of Acorn Computers Ltd
#*Could be titled Demise of Acorn Computers but there seems to be more precedent for "End of" (in amongst the extensive number of literary/cultural articles beginning with that term) than for "Demise of".
--Trevj (talk) 13:45, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Or we could not spend our time just randomly moving the content about and improve it instead? Two of the sections you suggest splitting off are badly in need significant validation.--Flibble (talk) 16:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies, certain sections are now much better referenced, however given the historic nature of the company, I don't think splitting the article further is particulaly justified, it's certainly not a long article for a company that developed notable products for 20 years.--Flibble (talk) 16:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I think it's best to keep the historical narrative in one place, given the reasonable size of the article. Letdorf (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We have some content forking with Acorn Computers#New RISC architecture / ARM architecture#History and Acorn Computers#Final restructuring and Element 14 Ltd (1998–2000) / History of RISC OS#Demise of Acorn Computers Ltd. The proposals would simplify maintenance of the aritcles and keep the historical narrative in one place as Letdorf says. I feel that it will be easier to (continue to) improve content if it's not forked. --Trevj (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Even with the content forking, I still don't agree with splitting these sections out into independent articles. In each case the content should reside in one of the articles in a section with the other article referencing it with a  and having a summary of the bits relevant to that articles. E.g. Acorn Computers#Final restructuring and Element 14 Ltd (1998–2000) / History of RISC OS#Demise of Acorn Computers Ltd should keep the content in the Acorn Computers article, and let the RISC OS one summarise the impact that those events had on RISC OS. As for the ARM history split I'm less bothered about which way it goes, though it could well be that the acorn section would do as a 'pre 1990 spinout' section on the ARM page, or just reference to section in the Acorn.--Flibble (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  doesn't talk about sections but . However, the link does work with sections. An advantage of sub-articles is that wikilinks from other articles (e.g. RISCOS Ltd, Castle Technology, Pace plc) can permanently link to a standalone article when the term is used. Without sub-articles, renaming  of section headings breaks such links. IMO if a subject/event is notable it is a valid candidate to be spun out in its own article. --Trevj (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I think we should spend a short while comparing how Good articles in various subject areas handle this, in order to further inform the discussion. Then perhaps we can point WT:COMP here for additional input. --Trevj (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

text: And  at WP:MOS#Main article link too. Anyway, will do a bit of research when I get the time. --Trevj (talk) 07:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Thanks - it was looking a little untidy there. I guess the discussion here may pick up again in the future, especially if split no.2 (History of the Advanced RISC Machine) proceeds: there seems little opposition to this (although there is some ambiguity in Letdorf's comment). --Trevj (talk) 14:12, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Re: History of the Advanced RISC Machine, there's a recent interview with John Biggs. -- Trevj (talk) 16:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  SplitZ-apart 

message: Is it worth adding a few words on Acorn's early 1990's work on an ARM based Tablet PC's / eNewspaper?
109.144.208.14 (talk) 20:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The NewsPAD and Stork? The former has a ref at cnet.com but a reliable source is still needed for the latter. Please feel free to contribute! Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 05:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Added a few words and ref's  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.74 (talk) 19:09, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Great stuff! I've put just included a bit of info from the above CNET piece too. Here are some further refs about the overall project which I've found but haven't got time to include content from now. And do you think this is a trademark registration? -- Trevj (talk) 09:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tablet PC / eNewspaper - Prototypes 

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message: I've just found A History of the Early Computer Industry in Advertising Form, which may be of some interest here. -- Trevj (talk) 14:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vintage Ads 

message: I find this very confusing, but don't want to fix what look like obviously confusing names and references since company names can change quickly and in confusing ways:
:Early history On 25 July 1961, Clive Sinclair founded Sinclair Radionics to develop and sell electronic devices such as calculators. The failure of the Black Watch wristwatch and the calculator market's move from LEDs to LCDs led to financial problems, and Sinclair approached the National Enterprise Board (NEB) for help. After losing control of the company to the NEB, Sinclair encouraged Chris Curry to leave Radionics and get Science of Cambridge (SoC) up and running. In June 1978, SoC launched a microcomputer kit, the Mk 14, that Curry wanted to develop further, but Sinclair could not be persuaded so Curry resigned. During the development of the Mk 14, Hermann Hauser, a friend of Curry's, had been visiting SoC's offices and had grown interested in the product
Who lost control of the company - the person Clive Sinclair?  Or the company Sinclair lost control of itself (taken over by NEB)?  Was Clive starting SoC up himself?  Did Curry actually indeed get SoC up and running?  What did Curry resign from and why is that related to the MK 14?  ★NealMcB★ (talk) 22:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section is very confusing 

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message: There is no relation whatsoever between Acorn radio valves (founded about 1936) and Acorn computers Ltd? --91.36.254.225 (talk) 20:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hauser was born in 1948 so it is unlikely. Also I was in contact with Hauser at the time and know that the reasoning behind the name was 'from little acorns great big oak trees grow', which certainly was a good prediction since most mobiles nowadays use ARM chips (ARM = Acorn Risc Machines and that is the same Acorn) and now Apple is going to use them as well! --Brian Josephson (talk) 15:42, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acorn Tubes