Talk:Alexander Nevsky

message: Especially this part: 
Some historians see Alexander's choice of subordination to the Golden Horde and refusal of cooperation with western countries and church as an important reaffirmation of East Slavs' Orthodox orientation (begun under Duke Vladimir of Kiev and his Mother Olga)
Let me remind you that intention of West in Russia was complete elimination of Russians as Orthodox heretics (Orthodox Church was not considered by West as Christian one). There were no any proposal from any western country "to cooperate", only invasions and war.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.125.6.1 (talk) 15:42, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Al Iskander ar-Rusiya  was definitely a heretic Muslim, not a heretic Christian 82.199.102.55 (talk) 03:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absolutely unacceptable article 

message: Alexander Nevsky never even was on the territory of present-day Ukraine, why do you have his name in this language?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.125.6.1 (talk) 13:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukrainian?? 

message: : hundreds claimed by Russian chronicles
is a later time addition to the cronicles. The chronicles say:  "В лето 6750 не бысть ничтоже", which means "in the year 6750 nothing happened", 6750 being 1242. I think the frase should be "claimed later  by Russian sources" Compay 10:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on. Stating there was "no Russia" in Alexander Nevsky's time is about like saying there was no such thing as Germany prior to 1871. There are a number of nations that fragmented for a time, even for centuries, only to reunite at a later date. China did, Germany did, Italy did, and so did Russia. In the case of Russia, this is obvious. The successor states of Kievan Rus' were led by branches of the same House of Rurik, and when Ivan The Terrible reunited all the territory, he declared himself "Tsar of all the Russias." He wouldn't have done that if those lands weren't viewed as all parts of one nation. Jsc1973 22:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment by Compay 

message: The article says 1547, but I found various sources mentioning different dates, amongst others 1267 and 1381. —Vildricianus 16:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canonization? 

message: Did he have a family? Children? This article gives us only the political take on the man.
He had at least two sons. One of them, Dmitry of Pereslavl, has a wikipedia article on him. Andrew II and Yaroslav III were Alexander's brothers. The rules of succession in the Russian states were rather bewildering.--Syd Henderson 04:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life? 

message: There are tons of books written on Alexander Nevsky by famous Russian historians of the past. I wish somebody could add extracts from Karamzin (XVIII century)and Soloviev (XIX century)works who were using interesting sources. In this article we see old-fashioned Soviet-type view on Nevsky, while he was much more than that, he was a product of those barbaric times.
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Far from being simply dry, in points it is downright antagonistic (at a level I come across when dealing with nationalistic Russophobic Ukrainians).  How can a prince be a "collaborator" (as the 1st paragraph states) against his own subjects? Alexeykh (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange dry view on Alexander Nevsky 

message: I'd expected to be able to include this article on a major historical figure (I'm a chemist, not a historian, but I was familiar with his story).  The article is fairly short, but often biographies are for this period.  However, I see that there are virtually no references; the article does include quite a lot of material that could be considered conjecture (e.g., judging importance, influence or impact of events) when it occurs without external source material.  That means I must reluctantly fail the article.  If a few sources are added (and preferably some inline cites for the bolder statements), please renominate the article. Thanks, Walkerma 03:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed for Version 0.7 

message: The page states that his remains are in the Lavra/Monastery to this day, but they were moved in 1922 to the State Hermitage Museum.  See:
http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/08/hm89_0_1_67.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mychair (talk • contribs) 16:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remains/Relics 

message: Revision as of 08:22, 4 October 2014 by Vuhdeem - contradicts dates of article: 
"In 1237, ... He gave his 8-year-old son Aleksandr Yaroslavich to Batu into amanat (hostages). While staying in the Horde from 1238 to 1252,... , wed Batu Khan's daughter, "
Known wikipedia sources give: 
1236 - first rule in Novgorod in age of 15, 
first visit into Orda - 1247 in age of 26, 
no Khan's doughter as a wife.
Now it found in uk.wikipedia article "Володимир Білінський". It may be timely view of this particular person.
Vuhdeem revision also removed  date 1236 of previous author: Ghirlandajo Revision as of 15:02, 10 June 2005, 
and inserted itself stright among sentence of Ghirlandajo Revision.
Revision 08:22, 4 October 2014 by Vuhdeem should be limited to "OTHER VIEWS". 
VSL56 (talk) 08:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision as of 08:22, 4 October 2014 by Vuhdeem 

message: Substituted at 07:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment comment 

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message: He has been a Vasall of the golden hord. This has been removed again. Please prove that he was not a vasall.  Л.Н.Гумилев - Древняя Русь и великая степь
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Also look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_divisions_and_vassals_of_the_Mongol_Empire Macjena (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: it already says that he agreed to pay tribute to the Horde. I do not think he (as a person) can be called a "vassal" in this context, in such a context we can refer to to vassal states. Of course I am not disputing vassal state statuses but whether it is appropriate to use the term "vassal" to describe him as a person. Or if you can find such sources that use the term "vassal" to refer to him. If you think I am incorrect here, please let me know. Thanks. Mellk (talk) 00:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vasall