Talk:List of Asian Americans and Pacific Islands Americans in the United States Congress

message: Why was this page moved? It was once only a list of Asian Americans in Congress. It was boldly moved in February 2017 without consensus. I may revert the move, per WP:BRD.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move of page 

message: While Asia is a huge continent that includes the mostly Arab, Turkish and Persian region known as the Middle East, the term "Asian American," as used in the United States, does not include people of Arab, Turkish or Persian ancestry.  In particular, Arab Americans are not included within the category of "Asian Americans" for purposes of the U.S. Census, much less in common parlance in the United States.  Why were members of Congress of Lebanese descent and of Palestinian descent added to this page?  Certainly a case can be made that there should be a page entitled List of Arab Americans and Middle-Eastern Americans in the United States Congress, but Lebanese Americans and Palestinian Americans are not "Asian Americans" as the term is used by the U.S. government, by Asian-American groups or by Americans in general. 
I strongly recommend creating a page entitled "List of Arab Americans and Middle-Eastern Americans in the United States Congress" and moving Lebanese-American and Palestinian-American members of Congress to such article, but such members do not belong in an article reserved for Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders.  If there is a consensus to create such new article, I will wait for its creation and the migration of the aforementioned entries on Lebanese and Palestinian Americans to it before deleting such non-Asian-American entries.  AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:38, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that the addition of Lebanese and Palestinian Americans to this page was made, en masse, by the same editor who, in his ignorance, and without discussing the issue in the talk page, edited the page on "Asian Americans" to falsely claim that the term includes persons of "West Asian" ancestry.  I already have corrected the Asian Americans page, but will give the editor until Tuesday to create a page entitled "List of Arab Americans and Middle-Eastern Americans in the United States Congress" for him to migrate the information that he added improperly to this article.  While his edit was misguided, I know that it was time-consuming, so I'll give him the courtesy of a three-day period to create an article to present information that is notable but is erroneous in its current location. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:55, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Some good points. "Western Asia" is not a common term for that region ("limited use"), which is more commonly referred to as the Middle East, so the suggestion is a good one. A separate list article would be an improvement here. -- BullRangifer (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arab Americans 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on List of Asian Americans and Pacific Islands Americans in the United States Congress. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130104003407/http://www.nationalatlas.gov/mld/usacqup.html to http://nationalatlas.gov/mld/usacqup.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It appears that Resident Commissioner Joaquín Miguel Elizalde does not have any Asian or Pacific Islands ancestry.  He was a "Spanish Filipino," which was the term used to describe persons of Spanish ancestry who were born in the Philippines.  I knew that his mother was from Spain, as was his paternal grandfather, but thought that maybe his paternal grandmother may have had Native Filipino (or other Asian or Pacific Islander) ancestry.  However, this article (in Spanish) about Joaquín Miguel Elizalde's brother, musician Federico "Fred" Elizalde, provides that both of their paternal grandparents came from Spain: https://www.tomajazz.com/web/?p=22701&print=print  ("Era nieto de españoles por
parte paterna e hijo de española.").  
Given that members of Congress from Hawaii whose ancestry is solely European (such as Henry Alexander Baldwin, grandson of Christian missionaries in Hawaii) are (correctly) excluded from the article on Asian Americans and Pacific Islands Americans in Congress even if their parents were born and raised in Hawaii, I believe that the 100% Spanish Joaquín Miguel Elizalde should be excluded from the list as well.  He was a proud Filipino, but he was not of Asian or Pacific Islands descent.
For the reasons stated above, I am removing Elizalde's entry from the article.  If anyone disagrees, please comment on this talk page so that the editing community can develop a consensus on this topic. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joaquín Miguel Elizalde 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States#Inquiry about Joaquín Miguel Elizalde.  RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:20, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States#Inquiry about Joaquín Miguel Elizalde]]

message: Daniel Akaka is noted as the "First Native Hawaiian elected to Congress". Robert William Wilcox was also elected to serve in Congress as a non-voting Delegate of the territory, so should that footnote be rephrased? KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely correct, that footnote is wrong, given that several Native Hawaaians served as Delegates (which are members of Congress) prior to Hawaii statehood.  I'll clarify that Akaka was the first Native Hawaaian to serve as a *voting* member of Congress.  Thanks for pointing this out. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Native Hawaiian elected to Congress 

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
* 
Participate in the deletion discussion at the . —Community Tech bot (talk) 05:58, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: I'm curious where you stand on this; Saiki was Administrator of the Small Business Administration for HW Bush's presidency; SBA was was Cabinet-level for Clinton's presidency and Obama's to the present but was not for either Bush. Even though Saiki was not a member of the Cabinet, does the current level of the position make it worth including in the table? Nevermore27 (talk) 00:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the reference to Saiki serving as SBA Administrator when I removed the reference to Mink's service as Assistant Secretary of State.  And you are correct to surmise that had the SBA been a Cabinet-level when Saiki held that post that I would have considered the position prominent enough to be notable.  Assistant Secretary of State for whatever it was and Administrator of the SBA were consolation prizes that Presidents Carter and Bush gave Mink and Saiki, respectively, after losing Senate races the prior year (the primary in the case of Mink, and the general in the case of Saiki).  Their post-House service in those positions just isn't notable enough to be mentioned in the article about Asian-American members of Congress, just as service as city councilman (another job that Mink held between her two tours of duty in the House), state legislator, or even state AG or Lieutenant Governor (which are more prominent positions than are Assistant Secretary of State or SBA Administrator) are not mentioned for anyone in this article or similar articles.  AuH2ORepublican (talk) 03:07, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saiki