Talk:List of undisputed world boxing champions

message: First, let me say that this page definitely needs a stated criteria at the top. With that said, here are my thoughts on how the WBO fits into the "undisputed" puzzle. The WBO may have formed in the 80s, but unlike the IBF which gained instant recognition because of Larry Holmes, the WBO really did not gain recognition until the last year or two. I'd say the two major turning points for the WBO were Bernard Hopkins unifying all four titles and Joe Calzaghe reaching 20 defenses of his WBO crown. Hopkins adding De La Hoya's WBO title to his undisputed championship allowed the WBO for the very first time to have their belt held by someone who had universal recognition as champion. As long as the top champions didn't hold the WBO title, it was very easy to dismiss it as a fringe belt. As for Calzaghe, the media wanted to cover his 20th defense as being historically significant, but how do you do that when you don't recognize his belt? It finally put ESPN & HBO over the edge and forced them to start acknowleding the WBO title. 
The whole holding 3 of the 4 titles = undisputed really only starts when Taylor gets all 4, gives up 1, and then still bills the Hopkins rematch as being for the undisputed championship. Other than that, every undisputed championship bout has been for the "big 3" (or the big 2 pre-IBF). It will be interesting to see if fights in the future are billed as being for the undisputed title when the WBO + 2 of the big 3 are at stake. Until then, I don't really know if the criteria should be listed as anything other than WBA+WBC+IBF = undisputed. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a crystal ball. Until the promoters & networks show otherwise, the criteria clearly seems to be WBA+WBC+IBF = undisputed champion. The only justification for listing the WBO on this page is perhaps the WBA rules clearly stating 3 belts = undisputed and 4 = super. 24.175.203.91 19:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The WBO era 

message: Maya.
What are the criteria for being listed on this page? Is the following what you have in mind?
* No one before the creation of the WBC (1963) as the WBA's rival.
* 1963–1983, a boxer who held both the WBA and WBC titles simultaneously.
* 1983–1988, a boxer who held the WBA, WBC, and IBF titles simultaneously.
* 1988–Present, a boxer who simultaneously held at least 3 of the 4 titles from the WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO.
Whatever it is, it should be explained at the top of the article.
Love, ArcTheLad 21:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why isn't Dariuz Michalczweski considered a undisputed light heavyweight champion? He held the WBA, WBO and IBF belt after his victory over Virgil Hill. If RJJ is considered undisputed, who only picked up DM's vacated belts, he should be in that list. Jones was never the lineal light heavyweight champion. --Asdf01 12:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I would ignore the WBO title. Its boxing biggest joke.
Lets not categorize which organizations are jokes.  The WBA has three simultaneous champions in the Cruiserweight division at the current moment.Maya Levy 05:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Beginnings

message: Naseem Hamed was NEVER the undisputed champion of the featherweight division.  He only held IBF and WBO titles simultaneously, and later WBC and WBO simultaneously.  He vacated the IBF belt in 1997 and later won the WBC belt in 1999 and then vacated both of his WBO and WBC belts in 2000.  Do a title search in boxrec.com Maya Levy 04:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naseem Hamed 

message: While what that person said is true consider this, Hamed did beat the WBO champ Robinson, the IBF champ Johnson, the WBC champ Soto, and Vazquez who was the WBA champion and was stripped for taking the Hamed bout. It is important to note that Vazquez never lost his title in the ring. After Hamed won the WBO title he beat all of the other major beltholders in a 2 year span. The belts don't make the fighter, the fighter makes the belts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Connman21 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nassem Hamed 

message: I have noticed the write up for middleweight champion Jermain Taylor says that he lost his "undisputed" status for refusing to fight Abraham, but shouldn't a fight that holds "three belts simultaneously" still be considered undisputed? Taylor still holds the WBC, WBO, and is the WBA super champion.
Actually he was stripped of his WBA championship status, it was my fault I didn't consider the WBO recognition I'll correct it.Maya Levy 14:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taylor 

message: Isn't he theundisputed cruiserweight champion as well? If Joe Calzaghe has the WBA/WBC/WBO belts, the same as Haye, and he's the undisputed super middleweight, then why isn't Haye the undisputed cruiserweight champion?--69.131.125.234 (talk) 19:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Haye 

message: Surely under the current rules Wladimir Klitschko shouldn't be listed here? He only holds 2 of the 4 major belts. The IBO version doesn't count. Snooty30 (talk) 21:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undisputed Heavyweight 2008? 

message: Is there a reason there are no middleweights listed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSigPi (talk • contribs) 22:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Middleweight

message: Having the IBF, WBA and WBC makes you the unidsputed LH champion. You dont need a Lineal title. The linal title does not really exist anymore and look at Mike Tyson, he became unidsputed after he beat Tony Tucker. Even though Spinks was the lineal. Does that mean that Tyson was not undisputed until he beat Spinks? NO!David-golota (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Light heavyweight 

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message: For those who are familiar with the early history of women's boxing. How do we classify their undisputed champions? For example, was Holly Holm at one point undisputed welterweight champion because she held all the belts at the time when she fought (WBA, WBC)? How about Laila Ali, when she won the WIBF, WIBA, IBA titles, which was pre WBA-WBC women's title? I think the best way to sum this up is what were the major titles pre WBA-WBC, and/or a detailed era/year of women's equivalent to the men's two-belt, three-belt, and four-belt era. I'm sure men's and women's four belt era didn't start together (2007 for men's) because IBF and WBO didn't award belts for women's boxing in 2007. Thanks. If we could figure this out, then we could also separate men's and women's pages so that it wouldn't be too overwhelming. BlizzyBlizz (talk) 12:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's Boxing undisputed title history

message: Hi, the current article is amazing but can I recommend the creation of one exclusively for women boxing champs? IoWiki2023 (talk) 23:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of undisputed (Women) world boxing champions