Talk:Wii/Archive 15

message: I keep seeing new sections made in the talk page for info we are already talking about.  Before you make a new section, please read the other headers to see if we're already discussing it.--The Viper 03:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please, read the other headers 

message: I remember reading in a players poll in a Nintendo Power issue a couple months back that the Wii will have DVD playback built in right out of the box. I searched online but didn't really find anything. Should it be added, or should we wait?Uturnaroun 01:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the official news is that the Wii will not play DVD's out of the box, for licensing reasons -- the system can read the actual data just fine, it's the video decompression routines which are copyrighted/protected/patented (I forget which) and require Nintendo to pay royalties for.  As such, Nintendo will be making a separate attachment to provide the codecs for playing DVD's.  This reduces the costs of manufacturing the console since Nintendo won't have to pay codec licensing fees for every Wii produced, but rather only for those who actually want that capability on their Wii. --Stratadrake 04:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Because Sony and Microsoft paid for them(Sony did, but MS is getting sued for it), Nintendo actually tries to save people money because they know that most people already own a DVD player(especially since you can buy a new for as low as $30). TJ Spyke 01:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Initially, you couldn't play DVD's on Xbox right out of the box.  You had to purchase a $30.00 DVD Playback Kit.  Xbox  The purchase of the kit seperately was for the exact notion stated above; to not pay licensing fees so as to keep costs down.  As costs went down, MS began including the DVD Playback Kit with the system.--The Viper 01:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I never heard anything about them eventually including it with the system. Do you have a link? TJ Spyke 01:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's right there on the Wiki page itself.  Xbox "Later, as the price of the Xbox dropped, the DVD remote was bundled."  No citation though so take it as you will.--The Viper 01:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe I will add a citation tag to that because I don't remember hearing about that. TJ Spyke 01:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD Playback

message: Is there any information about how the wired controller ports will work? Will they work at the same time as the wireless controllers, and if so will more than four simultaneous players be possible with an un-multitapped Wii? I want to know if I can look forward to 8-player Double Dash. 141.149.15.47 07:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the Wii remotes will work for Gamecube games.  -SaturnYoshi 07:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is the classic controller for that. There is no evidence right now that the GCN controllers will be used for anything other than GCN games. Jaxad0127 16:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't want to turn this all the way into a discussion board, but is it possible for them to have some kind of bluetooth receiver hook into the gamecube controller slots so that eight Wiimotes (or more) could be used in one game? MrVoluntarist 20:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll know more on Wednesday when Nintendo holds the Japanese media briefing.  Bluetooth is built in already, by the way, so theoretically that's already possible.  4 has just become a standard set by Nintendo because splitting the screen further makes most games unplayable for the players and unoperable for the system.--The Viper 01:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, one use of the Wiimote I was hoping for (and would write myself if I had the SDK) was  that you could holster one to each arm and leg, and there could be a dancing game like DDR but capable of detecting kicks, twirls, arm rolls, handstands, etc.  You would maybe see a stick model of yourself on the screen.  If you wanted to have two people in the dance, with full functionality, you would need eight Wiimotes to transmit at once, and that wouldn't require subdivision of the screen.  But now I'm rambling...MrVoluntarist 13:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be in luck.  3rd party armstraps/gloves that hold the Wii controller in them will be available at launch.  This may lead to what you described as a very real possibility. --The Viper 14:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bear in mind that each controller has nonvolatile memory and a very capable expansion port. Four-player, two-handed games will be possible with the "nunchuck" (Wiimote + Joystick fob) and dual-wielding may be possible with a male-to-male Wiimote + Wiimote connector. Nintendo stands to make some serious cash on attachments, so the dancing/fighting idea with gloves and shinguards could be done with wired attachments or non-bluetooth wireless sensors. 128.113.229.105 19:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, it was announced at E3 that GCN controllers will be used for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. --Nintendorulez talk 18:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There might a possibility of 4+ GCN controllers. According to Nintendo Power, it said that the Nintendo Wavebird controller can connect directly to the Wii without the reciever. The limit of controllers is unknown though.Uturnaroun 14:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To my recollection, the Nintendo Power statement was a hypothetical posed as a multiple-choice answer in a Players Poll, and not really a confirmation of anything. Has that changed? Dancter 16:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GameCube controllers & wireless Wii remotes simultaneously? 

message: ubisoft has announced splinter cell double agent will be lauched —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Atlfalcons933 (talk • contribs) .
:We've known that for about 2 days. TJ Spyke 01:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info. TJ, no need to be that harsh. -- ReyBrujo 03:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I wasn't trying to be harsh. TJ Spyke 03:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new launch title  

message: It seems a nice finding at http://www.codenamerevolution.com/?p=1820. The titles are Altered Beast, Ecco The Dolphin, Columns, Golden Axe, Ristar, Sonic the Hedgehog and Toe Jam & Earl. Since the information is in ESRB database, I think we can add the titles to the article. -- ReyBrujo 03:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They check out in ESRB's database. The list may change, though. Jaxad0127 03:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

text: IGN is also reporting on this: http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732165p1.html. Jaxad0127 18:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seven Sega virtual console titles 

message: Where will they downloaded games be stored? Emk52(Emk52 15:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virtual Console Storage 

message: Should we include the news about possible gamecube remakes.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.219.13 (talk • contribs) 
:There isn't really any news, Miyamoto just he would like to do it and it was a possibility. I am not opposed to it though if other people also feel it should be in. TJ Spyke 01:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already in the article, under "Developer support". It's been there for a while. Dancter 01:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiimakes 

message: Nintendo is supposed to be unveiling the price, release date, and some "megaton" announcement for Wii about now in a Japanese conference; any word on what's happening at the moment? I've looked around, and so far see nothing.-Super Genus 01:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just rumors what they will announce. Also, it's a private invite only event and not a public event. We might not get any info until it's over(and even then it will be just Japanese info most likely, the North America event is tomorrow). TJ Spyke 01:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The main problem was that IGN announced a wrong time. I suggest to take things calmly, wait until every fact is confirmed in a reliable site (GameSpot, IGN, GameSpy, etc), and to watch out for vandals. The page may need to be semi protected if we get a lot of spam, so that established editors can arrange the information correctly. And remember that edit conflicts are very likely to happen, so watch out. -- ReyBrujo 01:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The Japanese conference will start any time now, so we'll probably hear it straight from Nintendo soon enough. Dancter 04:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan Press Conference

message: The proper way to settle this is by discussing it, although I'm well aware that by the time consensus is reached, the American press conference will probably be long over. 9_9 There are sites quoting the alleged NY Times article, but NY Times does not have such an article and I've seen no actual evidence that it ever did. We will look more foolish if the NY Times thing turns out to be wrong and we include it, than if it turns out to be right and we don't, because we're not asserting anything in the latter case. People? --HeroicJay 07:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Like I said further up, we can present information without asserting it. Isn't that the point of WP:NPOV? As long as we simply present it as it actually was, even if it turns out to be wrong, it shouldn't be a problem, because we will have made no judgments as to its veracity. I'm trying to find a reasonable compromise, here. The other way wasn't working. Dancter 08:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, its simple, wait for the official nintendo annoucement http://uk.gamespot.com/events/wiilaunch/live.html at 17:00 GMT/09:00 PDT, and wait for ninty to officially announce the date and price for america (and europe)User:chngbat 09:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, it seems the NY Times has put this article on its site officially (or replaced it or whatever), but we still haven't received official word from Nintendo. --HeroicJay 08:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The official Nintendo release can be read here. ConnertheCat 16:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text:  Here, by the way. --HeroicJay 08:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York Times 

message: Hey guys, as noted here , Metriod Prime 3: Corruption has been pushed to 2007, so I removed it from the launch list. --Headcase 14:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Metriod Prime 3 for launch. 

message: If you can access the Wii Preview 2006 Online Press Kit, there's a list of third party launch window games (from Nov. 19th to March 31st). A tenth title from Ubisoft is now listed: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Ubisoft has the license for the movie, unlike Konami who has the licesne for the cartoon).
Not sure if I should link the reference to it or not in the main article, since it's from Nintendo's press site. --BPM 16:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TMNT added to Wii launch window 

message: Someone created an archive today and archived some ongoing discussion.  Please be careful when you are archiving.  If a discussion has had a post in the past week (in this case there were posts TODAY), please do not archive.  Whoever did this please revert.  67.99.60.231 17:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Archives

message: I figured that before we post information about Wii Points or write an article on them, we should collect and compare information here first (rather than the Wii Browser Not Free section). --Twile 18:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Points 

message: Has it been confirmed for launch, because I haven't heard that anywhere else.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.92.26 (talk • contribs) 
:They said it would not be a launch game but would be out within 90 days of launch, I haven't seen anything about them changing that. TJ Spyke 20:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WWSM is a launch title in Japan (Dec 2) but as far as an American release, I think I read somewhere that it would be out before the end of the year, but not a launch title for America.KatzztaK 10:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WarioWare Smooth Moves

message: will the wii be able to dvds?
:Sign your comments with 4 tildes! Yes, DVD functionality is confirmed to exist, though it will not have that feature out of the box. You'll need an external attachment to play dvds, and likely will need to download another channel as well.-Super Genus 22:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually NO DVD functionality is confirmed to NOT be in the box at any time http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732730p1.html.  The dongle has been canceled.Sir hugo 11:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note how it clearly says Hollywood DVDs. What does that mean? Makar1 20:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This may have something to do with the licensing fee that is required to include DVD playback - a royalty to the "DVD Forum" I believe? Although I'm not sure if that means "home made" DVDs could be supported without paying this fee given that they still use the DVD "format" Drahmad 03:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  dvd playback 

message: Do we have any details on the price of the controller shells? The Virtual Console controller looks necessary for games like Super Smash Bros Brawl, so it warrants mention if anything is known. And on a related note, any word on the Zapper?-Super Genus 23:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Controller shells? Do you mean the Classic Controller and Zapper Gun? The Classic Controllers will be $15, the zapper was just a prototype and never confirmed to be coming out. TJ Spyke 23:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did you get that information? I can't seem to find anything on the American price for the Classic Controller. Dancter 23:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It probably won't be that, that is just the Japanese price converted to US dollars. It's unlikely to be that different though. TJ Spyke 23:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is there anything saying a price for the classic controller? I assumed that it would be included.Tuesday42 23:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In their Japanese conferance they announced what would be included with the system(which the Classic Controller wasn't listed) and that it would cost 1800 yen(about $15). They announced months ago that the Classic Controller wouldn't be included. TJ Spyke 23:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: There's a Wii Remote and a Nunchuk bundled, but no Classic Controller. I don't think they've even confirmed the Classic Controller for the Americas, let alone a price. The Classic Controller is conspicuously absent from the controllers page on the NOA Wii site.  Dancter 23:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The NYC conference did actually mention the Classic Controller but nothing about the price or anything.  Youtube Link:  - about 2:54 in Webrunner 13:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice find. If you didn't point out where to look, I probably would've missed it, it was so brief. I'm still baffled about why NOA wouldn't have it on their site, though. Dancter 14:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

text: As a side-note, I think it was stated before that Gamecube controllers would still work with Brawl, because Nintendo realizes lots of people are comfortable with that particular controller and button configuration on its #1 selling game, Super Smash Bros Melee. That having been said, when you think about it, the Wii Remote (with Nunchuk) really has almost all of the buttons the Gamecube controller has, and when you add in possibilities like a flick of the main controller for a C-stick smash attack, or of the secondary controller to block or aim a throw, it could easily have the same level of functionality without too much hand-waving. Just my 2 sense... though I'll stop it here as I should be talking about the article. Don't have any references to the statement about Gamecube controllers working with Brawl, do some google searching and I'm sure you'll find it... --Twile 04:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was confirmed back at E3 that SSBB would work with the GameCube controller. TJ Spyke 04:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a note on wii.nintendo.com, it seems to be only aprtially functional right now (seems to be in the middle of being updated). But, from what I can tell, the classic controller has been removed. Jaxad0127 05:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controller Shells 

message: According to the recently released library listing for Wii (which can be found here by way of Gamespot), Dragon Quest Swords is currently scheduled for a Spring 2007 release. As such, I have removed it from the list.
Charles M. Reed 23:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Quest Swords is no longer a launch title 

message: Someone deleted the section on the classic controller. I know it wasn't mentioned in the conference and that it isn't on the official site anymore, but it hasn't been announced that it has been shelved. This can be discussed here, and I would like if someone would put that back up for me. I'm preoccupied right now.Tuesday42 01:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article had its own section on the Classic Controller? I must've missed that. That's a disproportionate amount of detail in an already large article. I say keep any info on it minimal. If they want to know more about it, we have a prominent link to the :Wii Remote subpage, where controller expansions such as the Classic Controller can easily be elaborated on. Dancter 01:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Section" was a poor choice of wording on my part, but the article did cover the classic controller. I think... Tuesday42 01:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was mentioned or shown at the conference actually. Maybe the Euro conference, but it was mentioned, I'm sure of it JayKeaton 15:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  classic controller 

message: An (admittedly long) ongoing discussion was archived yesterday, and I'd like to revert it to this page.  There were new posts as of yesterday and it should not have been archived (as someone else noted above).  Anyone familiar with the proper way of doing this?  Am I ok to cut it from the archive and paste it here?  CPitt76 13:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting Archive 

message: How are we going to save game progress on the wii? --MarioV 01:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a message board. I will delete this in 1 hour, but to answer your question: the Wii has 512MB of internal flash memory. You can also use SD cards. TJ Spyke 01:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the biggest SD card you can use? Makar1 20:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not known. One could probably assume that you'd be able to use any size (you can find SD cards up to 8 GB; I've picked up a 2GB one for only $50 CAD). For the USB drives: we don't know, they mentioned it briefly once and went into no more detail. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You will delete this in one hour? A question that could lead to further clarity for an important feature of this console in the article, you want to delete?JayKeaton 15:42, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Save 

message: Nintendo is realy making the point that the wii is for non-gamers and gamers alike. That the whole family will play wii just like say a boardgame. But the system only comes with one controller. How the hell do they exspect a family of 3-4 ppl to play if the system only comes with one controller. It cost $460.00 to get a wii and 3 exstra controllers for the whole family. Some may argue that its still less than xbox360 or ps3 with four controllers well you don't see sony or microsft saying its for the whole family thats not one of there slogins. Plus if you want to play snes or n64 you have to spend another 20 bucks plus 5-10 for the games. when a ps3-xbox360 game cost 5 bucks. but all with reason you have to pay for xboxlive but if sony sells arcade games for 5 bucks then you should make a point that the vituel console games may be to much for every family and you should defintly say that if nintendo exspects a whole family to play the family will have to pay $460. --Chumo 17:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's a suggestion for the article in this comment, I don't see it. --Maxamegalon2000 19:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  For people who play for people who use to play and for people who have yet to play 

message: Look at this it is made by nintendo for nes and it has a lot in common with wii mote its called power glove --Chumo 17:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why you add new headings in the middle of the page like that. It's not really good form to use headers for anything other than sectioning off new discussion topics, or sub-sections for special circmstances like straw polls and the like. If it is indeed a new discussion topic, it goes at the bottom of the page. If it is merely a new comment for an existing topic, you don't use headings for that. Dancter 18:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Chumo, the article's talk page is supposed to be used for talking about the article, not as a soap box. Please kindly cut it out. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say he's trolling, trying to make us put in the article some sort of biased criticism. Summed up, he may be saying "Because the controller includes a speaker, rumble, tilt sensor, and memory, it has higher costs than other controllers, and therefore is teh suxxorz because the IGn said that everoone multiplayer needs 8 controllers to play and it's ;ike poewr glove which floppedso thas will too.--Signor 02:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well  and I don't think that Chumo is doing a good job at it. First, the powe glove was not even created by Nintendo. (it was created my Mattel) Second, it came out in 1989. --70.48.109.213 18:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Then what's similiar? You said that the power glove was a "similiar failer", and now you're backpedelling and saying that it's similiar but failed for different reasons. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chumo, c'mon, find a gaming website and debate there, not here, this conversation is not helping the article, it is however making you look biased.--Signor 00:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarity failer 

message: Remove sections of talk page critic-similarity failure. Sections do not concern the article in any way, each section is the same thing written by the same author. Is spreading this talk to other Wii-related  discussion pages with the same intent, POV, no basis in facts.--Signor 04:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal 

message: I've just added information on the Wii Shop Channel.
80.229.240.36 18:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Shop Channel info added 

message: I added this image because it showed the left side of the console, and was a higher-resolution image, which allowed details such as the buttons, slot, and flap to be more closely examined. That it is very similar to the image in the infobox didn't seem like a big deal, as they are both freely licensed, and I figured adding it as a second image was less controversial than replacing the current infobox image, which I assumed many would argue to keep there as more "dramatic". I think the image should be put back. Dancter 19:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of [[:Image:Wii E3 2006 (front left angle).jpg]] 

message: What are the sources for the 4 launch games that were added in the last 12 hours? I will remove them until someone provides a source from Nintendo or the publishers. TJ Spyke 20:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch games 

message: I was just reading through the article and realised that there were two sections on the Wii Browser; one in connectivity and one in the Wii Channels section. The article would probably look better with only one section (and perhaps a link in the one it's removed from. And as a side note the Wii Channels is an important section so perhaps it should be moved above the Connectivity section which is slightly less of interest to people. 210.11.82.26 01:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections 

message: I've made a table with the release date and price for the Wii in it's various regions. It is simpler and easier to read than the previous one. If I've forgotten or omitted anything feel free to add it back in. I've put a copy of it below for reference too;ItIsMe 02:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii comes out in Mexico on November 19th as well. I don't think they said the price for Mexico though.TJ Spyke 02:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I've edited the table accordingly. ItIsMe 02:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Although I am the person who made the new table (so don't flame me for liking it better) the point of making it was to have a simpler table, without information that has already been stated in the article and to have a slightly larger font and flag images to make it more user-friendly. If anything has been omitted (which would not have been done on purpose) than feel free to add it back in.ItIsMe 02:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Although the accessory prices have already been placed in the article I have updated the new table with them. I've placed it below;ItIsMe 04:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I like it, I would recommend listing them in the order they release date(meaning US/Can/Mex first, then Japan, etc.) TJ Spyke 04:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rearranged the table as you recommended but I'll leave the original one in the talk section (just above). ItIsMe 04:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the sake of accuracy I think we need to either a) change the title of the table to remove the "sugggested" part, or b) somehow identify the European and UK prices as "estimated" rather than "suggested". "Estimated" is Nintendo's description of them here because in many territories setting or suggesting a resale price is not permitted. Dpmarshall 10:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I understand your reason for creating. However, i disagree with making it simpler. Sure, the infomation is in the article already, but the table gives a clear summary of what each region has or does not have. I really think that the old table works much better in this article. Will you please consider changing it back? dposse 14:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: It doesn't help that they aren't explaining why they're reverting your changes. I for one am in favor of clarifying the issue of pre-factored taxes, but more should probably be done to show what exactly is being done to the prices. Perhaps it may be a good compromise to keep the direct conversion, but add parenthetical notes to indicate the included taxes, like what is currently shown in comments. Just a thought. Dancter 22:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your suggestion Dancter - it sounds like a good way forward. I'll add them in paretheses with an appropriate footnote. Dpmarshall 17:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I suppose it's just to give an even comparison of what people are paying in various places.  Nintendo probably bases a lot of their decisions around the USD.  You could just as well use British pounds, I supposed.  If you want to make it neutral, I supposed you could do ounces of gold.  That'll go over well! MrVoluntarist 18:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The USD is the most common currency, many countries accept it and many use it as a base of comparison. TJ Spyke 20:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, most of us in non-US territories are comparing our regional pricing with that of the US to determine what additional cost we are paying for having the machine brought into our countries. Drahmad 02:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date & Price Table 

message: wikipedian ItIsMe changed the price table on the article. i reverted it because not only was alot of infomation was removed, the old table looked better and fitted better into the article. What do you think? dposse 02:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I am the person who made the new table (so don't flame me for liking it better) the point of making it was to have a simpler table, without information that has already been stated in the article and to have a slightly larger font and flag images to make it more user-friendly. If anything has been omitted (which would not have been done on purpose) than feel free to add it back in.ItIsMe 02:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Although the accessory prices have already been placed in the article I have updated the new table with them. I've placed it below;ItIsMe 04:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I like it, I would recommend listing them in the order they release date(meaning US/Can/Mex first, then Japan, etc.) TJ Spyke 04:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rearranged the table as you recommended but I'll leave the original one in the talk section (just above). ItIsMe 04:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the sake of accuracy I think we need to either a) change the title of the table to remove the "sugggested" part, or b) somehow identify the European and UK prices as "estimated" rather than "suggested". "Estimated" is Nintendo's description of them here because in many territories setting or suggesting a resale price is not permitted. Dpmarshall 10:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I understand your reason for creating. However, i disagree with making it simpler. Sure, the infomation is in the article already, but the table gives a clear summary of what each region has or does not have. I really think that the old table works much better in this article. Will you please consider changing it back? dposse 14:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: It doesn't help that they aren't explaining why they're reverting your changes. I for one am in favor of clarifying the issue of pre-factored taxes, but more should probably be done to show what exactly is being done to the prices. Perhaps it may be a good compromise to keep the direct conversion, but add parenthetical notes to indicate the included taxes, like what is currently shown in comments. Just a thought. Dancter 22:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your suggestion Dancter - it sounds like a good way forward. I'll add them in paretheses with an appropriate footnote. Dpmarshall 17:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I suppose it's just to give an even comparison of what people are paying in various places.  Nintendo probably bases a lot of their decisions around the USD.  You could just as well use British pounds, I supposed.  If you want to make it neutral, I supposed you could do ounces of gold.  That'll go over well! MrVoluntarist 18:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The USD is the most common currency, many countries accept it and many use it as a base of comparison. TJ Spyke 20:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, most of us in non-US territories are comparing our regional pricing with that of the US to determine what additional cost we are paying for having the machine brought into our countries. Drahmad 02:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  old or new table? 

message: Could someone skilled with photoshop remove the labels from the Wii channel menu picture so that the picture is only of the Wii channel menu. The way it is now it has to be too large to be properly visibleTuesday42 02:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Channel Menu Picture 

message: I'm planning on moving the Wii Channels section into the Features section as these channels are key 'features' of the system. ItIsMe 04:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Channels. Placed in Features? 

message: A sentence in the name section states 
"Another reason (or rumor) that it was to be called Wii was because small children would not be able to pronounce Revolution. This is commonly thought to be true by the gaming audience, but proof has yet to be seen."
I've never heard this before and there is no link to verify it. It could be a subtle form of vandalism. Anyway I'll leave it there until someone works it out. ItIsMe 04:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I already removed it.  It sounded like something someone made up, and figured they could get it in fi they claimed that other people thought it too. --Maxamegalon2000 04:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment in the Name section 

message: I think we should add http://brokencontrollers.com/ to the unoffical coverage section, they always have up todate news on the Nintendo Wii.
PeeeU 04:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A new user just "happens" to agree with another new user that a completely unknown site should be added to the article? I don't think so... --Ritarri 15:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Just two brand new editors, no. Jaxad0127 16:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That is another new user, he just created his account 10 minutes ago. TJ Spyke 20:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone report them? Jaxad0127 01:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets? We could just, you know, ignore this blatent foolishness. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have.  The ten Wii news stories on the Wii News page are all links to or copies of content from other sites.  It really doesn't add anything. --Maxamegalon2000 03:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That site is just like hundreds of others with Wii news. What makes it different? Jaxad0127 04:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh...WP:VAIN. Jaxad0127 00:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New site 

message: Perhaps we should get rid of this section. All we really need are the launch games, and the section could get way too long if every game coming until between launch and March 2007 is added. TJ Spyke 04:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here for an archived discussion and here for a poll in the Xbox 360 article about which games to include in the hardware section, which can be used as precedent. -- ReyBrujo 04:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I think we should just get rid of the "launch window" games list and just keep the launch games. Most people would come wanting to know what games are coming out at launch more than what's coming out 2 months after launch, that is what the List of Wii games is for. TJ Spyke 03:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Nintendo announced the tour several months ago. TJ Spyke 05:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch window games 

message: Type Keep if you would like to keep this section. Type Remove if you would like to remove this section. Add a small comment on why if you would like.
Remove it is just pointless to have launch window games on the main page... list of popular franchises is way more important. If we re-add the popular franchise section I might be moved to keep this section as well. --DivineShadow218 20:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote 

message: Can someone verify or see if Xavix game console influenced the Wii development or vice versa? Xavix is a legacy console with a lot of similarities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.115.149.18 (talk • contribs) 
:::Please don't start a new conversation in the middle (or begining) of another. And sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Jaxad0127 16:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And besides this is only for discussions on the Wii system. And nothing more. Zeta26 21:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Xavix

message: IGN has posted a set of specifications here: http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p1.html
However they offer no source for these, and there has still been no official word on the matter from nintendo. Furthermore, both the CPU clock speed listed, and the graphics card clockspeed would seem to have derived by simply multiplying the gekko and flipper clockspeeds times 1.5. Considering the lack of reply from nintendo, and the rather simplistic operation used to arrive at the new clockspeeds I've removed them from the article till there is an official statement from nintendo on the subject. 64.6.0.220 19:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IGN Specs List 

message: This interview of Nintendo Engineers by Satoru Iwata might be a useful reference for this article. 82.93.70.118 18:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iwata interview 

message: ok i know theres probably 1000+ wii fan websites but if you're australian then go to  the australian wii fan-made website] because its really good ( even for a fan made website ) oh and put your list of fan made websites here Qwikjus69 23:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fan Made Websites

message: When talking about the name and the Amazon.com preorder glitch, why is it all messed up?  Im fixing it right now Rollinman 04:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bunched up Words

message: Amazon UK give their price to be £179.99, and rarely do products come out here in the UK at £X9 exactly, it's more likely to be 179.99. Will (Glaciers melting in the dead of night) 03:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are bound to be variations in pricing, but I think it's best to stick with what comes from the manufacturer's camp, which in this case would be simply £179. Dancter 04:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, Nintendo "estimated" the price at £179 - but don't "recommend" a price in Europe (as that's not legal in many places). Nintendo's "estimate" is the closest thing we have to an official price. Dpmarshall 10:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  £179 or £179.99? 

message: Some idiot found it to be a fun idea to vandalise the page with a clever comment of "PS3 Rox! Wii sucks!". Can someone with access to original article erase this utterly perceptive and smart comment and revert it to the way it was please? - Russ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.54.243.250 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 25 September 2006  (UTC)
:It's not hard. just go to the history section. Zazaban 04:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Russ, when you see vandalism even you can revert it.  Either go to the history page at the top and review the changes that were made to ensure they didn't delete anything when adding their nonsense and then restore that section or the page to what it was before the vandalism making sure to not overwrite any new edits, or the simple way is to click the edit tab above the section and just remove the vandalism and then check the history to make sure they didnt delete anything that you need to add back in.  Also next time you talk on this page please sign your posts with ~~~~ this will put your username/ip and the time+date of your post, this lets us know who left a message and when.  Thanks a bunch and welcome to Wikipedia. Sir hugo 12:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Dancter for signing my comment since I seem to have forgotten it myself.Sir hugo 14:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I have removed the first external link which was to the US Wii portal and left the international Wii portal as the first link. I think that is appropriate geographic NPOV. Garglebutt / (talk) 02:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it back in as it has different information and is still a valid link for general Wii information.Sir hugo 11:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed US Wii link 

message: This talk page needs to be archived soon. I don't know how to do it, but I do now you do not archive discussions that have had comments in the last week.Tuesday42 22:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most likely it will be archived by someone come the first of the month anyway, I would hold off till then for now.Sir hugo 12:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  archive soon 

message: These tech specs are missing from the Wikipedia Nintendo Wii entry:
729 MHz IBM PowerPC "Broadway" CPU
243 MHz ATI "Hollywood" GPU
24MBs "main" 1T-SRAM
64MBs other 1T-SRAM
3MBs texture memory on GPU
Built-in 802.11b/g Wi-Fi capability
source: IGN.com (http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p1.html)
-R 72.43.142.220 21:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated tech specs 

message: Wii (pronounced as the word "we", IPA: /wiː/) is Nintendo's seventh-generation video game console. Its official project code name was Penis machine.
^^ Well i guess it proves my point. Dont worry i fixed it.
But i suggest we put this article back on Editing Protection from new users and Anonymous users. Toasty!|Available at your local store 23:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  too much Vandalism, Please block Anons from editing 

message: Due to the negative reception of the Nintendo DS' online multiplayer system, Nintendo Europe has announced that the    Wii will no longer use game-specific friend codes! :) --TBCTaLk?!? 19:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are still friend codes, just to systems and not games. Also, I think a more reliable source should be used than this site. TJ Spyke 20:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they're talking about the latest installment of the Iwata Asks series (http://wii.nintendo.com/iwata_asks_vol3_p3.html), but are oversimplifying things, and are somewhat misleading about the details. Dancter 20:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking news: No more game-specific friend codes!