Talk:Populous: The Beginning

message: This is an established wiki that is useful for people looking for information on Populous.  Now I know it's the norm to try and weed out the external links list, but now it's only an imdb link leaving people looking for more information with no help.  Thoughts on leaving it in and not deleting it? Ksevio (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that it's a fansite, and being a wiki makes it even worse. See WP:EL. In short: if we wouldn't use it as a source, we wouldn't link to it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 23:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That shouldn't be a problem.  Other similar pages such as Halo_(series) have a relevant wiki linked, and there being no longer an official web page on the subject, the fans have completely taken over the support/additions/multiplayer for the game.  Basically, if wikipedia is looking for the "expert" source on the subject, these are the sites to look at, not game review sites. Ksevio (talk) 04:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Who defines these people as experts? There's no such established recognition. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you identify an expert as the people most knowledgeable on a subject then it's clear who to look at.  People can be experts without a degree or official link to a subject.Ksevio (talk) 05:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is about verifiability. In that, just because something may or may not be true does not mean we should publish it. Who says the wiki is a good resource? Some guy? It's not good enough. At the very least (while I'm not vouching for its inclusion) Halopedia is listed as a resource by the franchise developers and overseers. I doubt anything similar has been said about the wiki in question. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to Populous Wiki

message: ;Infobox
*The image doesn't have summary, source, or fair use subheadings
;Lead
*3D --> 3D graphics
*twenty five --> twenty-five
;Gameplay
* there are often specific ways this can be achieved - sometimes the player -->  there are often specific ways this can be achieved — sometimes the player''
*either by head-to-head direct modem connection, LAN, IPX, or most commonly using the Populous Reincarnated matchmaker over TCP/IP --> it might be helpful if you either spell out those acronyms, or pipelink them to their respective articles.
*Modders added --> What's a modder?
*which can be downloaded from mirror sites. --> Turn that imbeded link around 'mirror sites' into a reference link
;Setting
*Is it not possible to expand this section some? Such as the terrain of the planet the player is most on, if that's possible, or add in more description about the varying planetary terrain. What about moons? Do they play a part? And how do you get from one planet to the other?
It's never explained how the shaman and her tribe move to the next world. She and her tribe simply arrive there after you have finished the goals of the previous world. And, yes some of the worlds are moons of planets, but in the article it mentions how many worlds (which includes moons) there are. I take it you haven't played the game. The snare (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review; GA on Hold

message: After fixing the final issue about the imbeded link at the end of the gameplay section, I have passed this article for GA. Good work, and congrats.--十八 23:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Pass

message: Fog of war = unseenable place, you must unlock. Angel of Death's are very handy =D.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.85.139.21 (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fog of war 

message: While digging through the online print archive, I located the following preview material for this game:
*Computer Games Magazine Feature
*Computer Games Magazine Preview
*Computer Gaming World Preview
One or more print reviews for this game may also be found in the archive. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:33, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference material 

message: In the penultimate sentence of the lead, the game is reported as being criticised for unclarity as to which style of game it is.  Should the article, therefore, describe it uncritically as both, with no sense of compromise or discrepancy, in the first sentence?  Kevin McE (talk) 10:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? Critical opinion is just that. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:42, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is no contradiction betwen the two, then the criticism is uninformed and does not merit mention (at least not in such a high profile position as lead para on a FA, and front page mention in TFA blurb); if the critic is correct in saying that a game cannot be one without being the other, then we should not contradict them.  What was the balance of critical opinion? Kevin McE (talk) 08:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because 'god video game' is very much jargon to a non-gamer, I edited the first sentence to read 'god-style video game'.  Hopefully that's acceptable to the insiders. Ocaasi c 12:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All god games I know are strategy games (since the very first one, the original Populous). The question is completely absurd. --188.106.103.101 (talk) 13:05, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strategy game or god game? 

message: Neat article.  I get the feeling it's a little heavy on comma and semi-colon use, but I'm not quite up to sorting through each one.  Perhaps something to look at after the joy of having it up on the main page fades a bit. Ocaasi c 12:36, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I got most of the semi-colons.  Comma use is still a bit high, particularly with phrases at the end of sentence (<-- like that).  But they still read well. Ocaasi c 23:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

message: This sentence confused me:
:In some aspects, the developers were forced to remove features due to technical constraints; for example, the "Plague" spell from previous Populous titles was dropped because in practice the spell was too frustrating.
How is frustration related to technical constraints? Ocaasi c 23:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Technical Constraint

message: Description of one of the characters is a bit vague:
:...weak, ranged, Firewarriors
Could someone explain what 'ranged' means, and how Firewarriors are best characterized? Ocaasi c 23:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It means the firewarriors are similar to the archer class that use weapons from a range as oppose to hand-to-hand. Ksevio (talk) 14:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Player type 

message: Is there a consensus about using The Beginning in the article where possible?  Currently it alternates between that and Populous: The Beginning in a somewhat inconsistent way. Ocaasi c 02:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it should be consistent one way or another. I tend to use a shorthand when dealing with longer titles. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

text: "The Beginning" isn't a standard way of referring to the game. It typically is called "Populous", "Pop:TB", or the full "Populous: The Beginning" among the community and developers (at least in interviews). As for what to use in the article, the full title or just "Populous" would be best. Ksevio (talk) 15:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the other games are referenced in the series, it's a much better usage. There is another game called Populous, so it makes sense to disambiguate. We don't really take fan terms into account unless they are popular enough to be referenced in reliable sources. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked all the sources in the article (mostly review sites, a few are dead), after initially referring to it by the full name, almost all of them switch to simply "Populous" or "Populous 3".  In text interviews with the producer, he refers to it by "Pop:TB" or "Pop".  For a shortened version, "TB" or "3" could be added, but using just "The Beginning" is not a standard form.Ksevio (talk) 15:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I added a fan site, Populous Reincarnated, to external links eventhough they are usually frowned upon, but I think it's appropriate in this case. Here are the reasons:
*There's no official site anymore
*The fan site provides all official downloads not available elsewhere in one place (patches, demo, expansion)
*The fan site was featured in a Rock, Paper, Shotgun article: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/14/meet-the-superfans-still-playing-populous-the-beginning/
*The fan site is still fairly active. --Mika1h (talk) 13:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan site added to external links 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Lisa Stokes is listed as Director on this title.
Her actual credit was "Team Administrator" (see photo of credits from Populous The Beginning packaging as proof) Stuwhyte (talk) 15:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any place Stokes or the director position is listed in the article? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 17:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits Error