Talk:Alois Hitler

message: Why does the article refer to him as Hitler from the very beginning, if he wasn't called Hitler until events described in the middle of the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.71.89.124 (talk) 22:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, calling him "Hitler" might cause confusion with the other (in)famous fellow who bares that name. Is there some reason for not refering to him as "Alois" (or "Schicklgruber")? -- Big Brother 1984 (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hitler

message: What did Alois Hitler die from? --Marcus2 21:33, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I was going by the family tree at the end of the Adolf Hitler article. It claims that Alois was the illegitimate son of Klara's grandfather, Johann Hiedler/Hüttler. Anyway how can Klara be Alois's cousin is she's his uncle's granddaughter? As for Geili Raubel, I've not even heard of her. — JIP | Talk 13:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

text: In the Catholic church marriages are allowed in the fourth degree of the collateral line. This would be first cousins, once removed. I believe the reason the priest sent it to Rome is because it was possible Klara might be Alois' step-niece. Traumatic (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Many articles about Hitler's relatives claim a possibility of Klara being Alois's half-niece. But I suppose the exact truth will never be known. — JIP | Talk 15:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be a lot of shocked disbelief by tender readers who can't believe the possibility that someone married his own niece, or step-niece, or step-grandniece etc.  Fact is there have been many accepted forms of coupling that may not seem right to us but which, through circumstance or policy, were accepted at the time. As a matter of fact an episode of 30 Rock deals with Liz Lemon dating her second cousin once removed or some such - which is well within even consanguinity tables.  Imagine yourself in the remoter Alps in the nineteenth century and ask yourself whether you would prefer to live a long lonely life - or you could marry your niece?  which would you choose?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.144.77.165 (talk) 16:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: Was the woman (whose last name is unknown) really called "Thelka"?  "Thekla" was a common name then, 
Thelka I have never heard before. -- Aleph4 11:00, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thelka is a Russian prank word (might be a coincidence). Materialscientist (talk) 23:06, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thelka or Thekla?  

message: Given his subsequent behaviour, it seems unlikely that Alois reached his mid-twenties before discovering sex. Therefore it seems likely that Adolf may have had other half-brothers and sisters apart from Thekla/Thelka's child. Is there any indication that anyone came forward claiming to be a half-sibling during Adolf's rise to power? If so, what became of them?
Also, how strictly was the ban on Jews enforced prior to 1860? I expect there were illegal immigrants them as there are today. Could a wealthy tobacco merchant (Frankenburger) have bribed officials to ignore his presence?
TCH. Hastings. UK.
:: Good points...its entirely possible, in fact likely, that Jews were coming into the area prior to Austria officially allowing them to, if it was attractive to them...otherwise, why would they bother after it was legal?
:: And its very likely Alois had un-ackowledged offspring, but equally likely we'll never know for sure...Engr105th 23:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alois sex life and parentage 

message: "Closely related to his support of education was his tolerant skepticism concerning religion. He looked upon religion as a series of conventions and as a crutch for human weakness, but, like most of his neighbors, he insisted that the women of his household fulfill all religious obligations. He restricted his own participation to donning his uniform to take his proper place in festivals and processions. As  he grew older Alois shifted from relative passivity in his attitude toward the power and  influence of the institutional Church to a firm opposition to "clericalism," especially when the position of the Church came into conflict with his views on education." - Smith, Bradley F. Adolf Hitler: His Family, Childhood and Youth Hoover Institute, 1967 p.27 -- [[User:Drogo 
Underburrow|Drogo Underburrow]] 05:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alois' religious views

message: Can anyone please delete this pic???? a shame it is online, to see a real picture of alois hitler see german entry on him--85.180.30.212 13:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm trying to locate the German entry picture you mention, but could you provide a link?? I see no reason an authentic picture/photo shouldn't be on Wikipedia...????...Engr105th 23:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Some parts of this article read like passages in a bad novel, not like an ecyclopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.15.63.111 (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cite one or two examples? Gwen Gale 03:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone of article?  

message: This edit, added nearly a year ago, says that Alois would beat young Adolf with a hippopotamus whip. Really? bd2412 T 23:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, well I've deleted reference to the hippopotamus whip, as it makes no sense. Cheers! bd2412 T 14:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OTOH, sjambok documents that hippopotamus whips existed, used by European settlers on local workers in Africa. Alois might have come across an example or two at work. knoodelhed 07:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There do appear to be references goin back to the mid 1970s which state that Alois beat Adolf with a hippopotamus whip. See John Toland, Adolf Hitler (1976), p. 9. bd2412 T 17:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hippopotamus whip? 

message: This article lists two books by David Icke as "additional sources". Exactly what content in this article is derived from Icke's books, if any? (This is a great example of why all facts in an article should be directly cited to their source.) Everyking 07:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there is a source listed called Hitler was a British Agent. I really can't see how such sources could possibly be useful to this article. Everyking 07:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Icke's books

message: *Schicklgruber means sump digger in the Waldviertel dialect. 
Couldnt be less true. The name means exactly what it brings to mind, the grubbing of shekels, or moneygrubbing. Also, there is no Waldviertel specific dialect of Austrian German. References to this on Google only occur on spammer clones of this exact Wikipedia page. This claim is laughably false. --Truthseeq (talk) 21:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: name origin

message: The second paragraph seems to be a candidate for deletion. It doesn't add any value to the article. Any objections? 208.58.197.133 (talk) 02:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: death section reference to a novel

message: The article mixes Schicklgruber and Hitler when referring to him. According to the article, he wasn't named Hitler until 1876, when he was 39. I think the article should refer to him as Schicklgruber when speaking of events before 1876, and Hitler after, instead of randomly mixing the two. Rm999 (talk) 06:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Name 

message: The rumor about a Frankenberger paternity is sufficiently notable for inclusion in the article. However, it is discredited: the best scholars do not give it any credence. The section needs to be trimmed down so that it does not overweight the sections on Hiedler and Hüttler, one of whom was Alois' father.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if it is discredited factually that is no reason for trimming it down.  Legend is often more interesting than reality, and it is certainly something people want to read about.--Michael C. Price talk 15:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:UNDUE. It will be cut but I don't have the time to embark on it today.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 15:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankenberger also was listed as Alois' father in the person infobox. I changhed that to J G Hiedler. As he is the one oficcially recorded as Alois' father, I feel he should be the one listed here, even if the circumstances around this recording is a bit weird. Other possibly fathers should be mentioned in the text. Jarroy (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frankenberger section grossly disproportionate 

message: This individual is notable for a single event; namely, being Adolf Hitler's father. Per Wikipedia guidelines at WP:N, shouldn't this article be merged with Adolf Hitler? Why does this article not exist as a simple redirect? Alois is unfamous; unlike his son who is infamous. fr33kman -simpleWP- 01:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Adolf Hitler is already too long, so how could Alois be merged into it? For that matter, Alois is too long because there is so much crap in it (see Talk:Alois Hitler#Frankenberger section grossly disproportionate.)--Goodmorningworld (talk) 07:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: The name of the inn was "Gasthaus Wiesinger" not "Gasthaus Stiefler".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.235.180.95 (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: This article doesn't really make this clear - but is there any evidence that this Leopold Frankenberger even existed? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, there is no evidence that this "Leopold Frankenberger ever existed. It appears to have been something that Frank made up. --A.S. Brown (talk) 02:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if there's no evidence it seemed a little weird to introduce him as a paternity candidate with the moniker "a Jew named Leopold Frankenberger", alongside two actual, documented, human begins. We may as well have written "an Episcopalian named Winstead Brush". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hans Frank, under whose eyes the gas-chambers killed millions of Jews, is anything but a trustworthy witness in general terms. This does of course not mean that everything he ever told was a lie. I have often wondered where Hitler´s violent anti-semitism came from. As a young man he seems to have rubbed shoulders with other Jews. Also, the German and Austrian varieties of anti-semitism were not different from those in other parts of Europe, rather milder. Germany never had anything like a Dreyfus-Affair. In the German Reich under Kaiser Wilhelm II (himself a verbal anti-semite) Jews were able to rise to high positions in science and industry. Daniel Goldhagen´s book Hitler´s Willing Executors, in which he claimed that the Germans elected Hitler to execute the holocaust has not been taken seriously. Moreover he did not provide any evidene for this thesis. 
The driving force behind the holocaust seems to have been Hitler himself. Even Himmler wanted to deport the European Jews to Madagascar, and Goering is known to have protected a number of Jews via his half-brother, and had a half-Jew in his bodyguard. One of Goering´s air marshals, Erhard Milch, was half-Jewish.
The question of a possible half-Jewish grandfather of Hitler´s may never be resolved. Hitler had ample time and opportunity to destroy any evidence. 
There may have been open or clandestine anti-semitism in parts of the German and Austrian population, but no one ever had seriously advocated the mass murder of ethnic Jews. So the question remains: what is the background of Hitler´s anti-semitism?
One explanation was given in a US book on who financed Hitler´s rise to power. (Who financed Hitler: The secret funding of Hitler's rise to power, 1919-1933, by James Pool, 1978) One source seems to have been Henry Ford, a violent anti-semite, whose painted portrait adorned Hitler´s Reichskanzlei. On January 30 1939 Hitler stated in the Reichstag: "Wenn es dem internationalen Finanzjudentum inner- und ausserhalb Europas gelingen sollte, die Voelker noch einmal in einen Weltkrieg zu stuerzen, dann wird das Ergebnis nicht die Bolschewisierung der Erde und damit der Sieg des Judentums sein, sondern die Vernichtung der juedischen Rasse in Europa!" 
(My translation: Should international financial Jewry succeed again - within and without Europe - to plunge the nations into another world war, then the result will not be the bolshevisation of the earth und thus the victory of Jewry, but the destruction/extinction of the Jewish race in Europe) One of the many mysterious and absurd statements which demonstrate that Hitler was insane. There is no evidence whatsoever that Jews were involved in the outbreak of World War I. But Henry Ford claimed to have secret knowledge of this, whose origin he never revealed. This is the only relevant source I know which might explain Hitler´s anti-semitism. There is no evidence either that US president Woodrow Wilson, who declared war on Germany in 1917, was Jewish. The Versailles Treaty was one of the cornerstones of Nazi politics. The two most violent anti-German agitators in Versailles, French Clemenceau and British Lloyd George, were not Jewish either. Lloyd George even visited Hitler in his mountain retreat and called him a great man, after having imposed a humiliating "peace" treaty on Germany without which there would not have been a Reichkanzler Hitler. There must be one or several mysterious and hitherto unknown sources to explain Hitler´s radical anti-semitism. Rumors that he had a Jewish ancestor may be one. But the evidence is scanty - and all potential witnesses are dead. The only clear indication is that he did not look particularly nordic - (jokes about this were made in the German population) Ontologix (talk) 05:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leopold Frankenberger 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Stuart-Houston#In_Nazi_Germany
I dont think he's a reliable source about the story of Alois beating her wife and children. And neither is the book author.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_G._L._Waite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_G._L._Waite#Psychohistory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Psychopathic_God:_Adolf_Hitler#Jewish_ancestry
In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler#Marriage_to_Klara_P.C3.B6lzl_and_family_life
William Patrick Hitler says that he had heard from his father, Alois Jr, that Alois Hitler, Sr. used to beat his children." - The Mind of Adolf Hitler",Walter C. Langer, New York 1972 p.115
So his nephew was an anti-nazi british spy, hardly unbiased POV
And Robert G.L. Waite is saying that Hitler behave like he behave because of his fear to be jewish.
Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychobiography  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.137.113.70 (talk) 00:26, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What a question Every child in Austria was required to attend elementary school. What are you trying to hint at? Ontologix (talk) 06:41, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of neutral POV 

message: Frank's story contains several inaccuracies and contradictions, such as he said "The fact that Adolf Hitler had no Jewish blood in his veins, had, from what has been his whole manner so blatant that it needs no further word",[19] also the statement Frank had said that Maria Schicklgruber came from "Leonding near Linz", when in fact she came from the hamlet of Strones, near the village of Döllersheim.[20] Rosenbaum suggests that Frank, who though he had turned against Nazism after 1945 remained an anti-Semitic fanatic, made the claim that Hitler had Jewish ancestry as a way of proving that Hitler was a Jew and not an Aryan.[21]
This is a bad piece of writing. Can anyone knowing the facts (or allegations) behind this section redo it in good English? Koro Neil (talk) 03:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor prose 

message: In the paragraph discussing the death of Alois, this paragraph comes up: 
"Hitler's childhood friend, August Kubizek, wrote in 'The Young Hitler I Knew" that "When the fourteen-year-old (sic) son saw his dead father he burst out into uncontrollable weeping.'"
But, Kubizek did not meet Hitler until, according to his own account, around All Saints Day in 1904, and Alois died on January 3, 1903. Am I simply missing something here, or is there an error?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by McelHuff (talk • contribs) 01:31, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alois' Death 

message: Reverted as the info. being put forth to add is poorly sourced and not complete. Here you have surmise, at best, on a matter where the physical evidence is not totally clear (and even then can be interpreted differently). It doesn't meet WP:VERIFY. It has been discussed and rejected several times in the TALK:Adolf Hitler archives. As someone stated years ago when first discussed, "...there's no definitive evidence of anything - only one DNA test that apparently showed Hitler (or his relatives, who presumably don't share his exact DNA) had genes that a whole batch of ethnic groups have."
*See Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 51  (three times):
**Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 51#Just write what the sources say
**Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 51#Adolf Hitler's Y DNA haplogroup
**Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 51#Hitler's DNA
*Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 52 
*Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 54 
Kierzek (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  haplogroup again 

message: "When the fourteen-year-old [sic] son saw his dead father he burst out into uncontrollable weeping."
Why is [sic] included here? I can see nothing wrong with the sentence. KarstenO (talk) 14:56, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: From the previous sentence: "Adolf Hitler, who was 13 when his father died...." TSP (talk) 16:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sic 

message: I removed Alois from the first sentence. This isn't bad writing. --Malerooster (talk) 01:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a problem actually. See my comment in the section below for details. El_C 01:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You've said "It isn't bad writing" a number of times now in different venues: on my tlak page, in an edit summary, and here.  Do you actually have an argument which supports your contention that the sentence is better without "Alois", or one which knocks down my argument that using "Alois" in that situation helps the reader?  You really can't just repeat the same thing over and over again.  Make an argument please. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read MOS:SURNAME and MOS:SAMESURNAME. --Malerooster (talk) 17:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

text: Indeed. Take for example the following excerpt from the article:  But I disagree with you that Hitler by itself ought to be directed to anyone other than Adolf Hitler. All other mentions of Alois or any other individuals with the last name Hitler, should be qualified accordingly. El_C 01:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

text: In other words, for Adolf Hitler: Hitler by itself, or Adolf Hitler, or just plain Adolf. Everyone else with the last name Hitler can be named in full or by their first name only, whichever. I think that approach makes most sense. El_C 01:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, I agree that we should use what are basixcally disambiguating first names in some circumstances in this article.  The name "Hitler", unadorned with a first name, is pretty firmly ensconced in our culture as meaning "Adolf Hitler", because that's what it means 99.99999....% of the time.  Anything we can do to help the reader from falling into this cognitive trap is a service to them, and makes the article easier to read.However, I do not think that it needs to be a hard-and-fast rule.  The best thing is to read through the article, and in any place which a scintilla of doubt entered your mind about who is being referred to, add the first name there. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone through the article and made what I believe are common sense changes to help the reader avoid the "Hitler" mental trap.  I'm not necessarily married to them all, and am open to reasonable discussion, although I think that deleting them en masse would not be justified. (There are also other normal copyedits included in the edits.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, looks good. The first mention under Early life is fine with just Hitler. Everybody with a brain/cognitive ability knows what article this is, right? --Malerooster (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with the practical approach and application put forth by Beyond My Ken. Kierzek (talk) 12:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Early Life 

message: Related to above, should we be using Alois instead of Hitler throughout the bio? It seems the reader would know that this is Alois' article. If Adolf is mentioned in a certain section, then we could make clear which Hitler we were referring to. --Malerooster (talk) 01:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Take for example the following excerpt from the article:  But I disagree with you that Hitler by itself ought to be directed to anyone other than Adolf Hitler. All other mentions of Alois or any other individuals with the last name Hitler, should be qualified accordingly. El_C 01:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

text: In other words, for Adolf Hitler: Hitler by itself, or Adolf Hitler, or just plain Adolf. Everyone else with the last name Hitler can be named in full or by their first name only, whichever. I think that approach makes most sense. El_C 01:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, I agree that we should use what are basixcally disambiguating first names in some circumstances in this article.  The name "Hitler", unadorned with a first name, is pretty firmly ensconced in our culture as meaning "Adolf Hitler", because that's what it means 99.99999....% of the time.  Anything we can do to help the reader from falling into this cognitive trap is a service to them, and makes the article easier to read.However, I do not think that it needs to be a hard-and-fast rule.  The best thing is to read through the article, and in any place which a scintilla of doubt entered your mind about who is being referred to, add the first name there. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone through the article and made what I believe are common sense changes to help the reader avoid the "Hitler" mental trap.  I'm not necessarily married to them all, and am open to reasonable discussion, although I think that deleting them en masse would not be justified. (There are also other normal copyedits included in the edits.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, looks good. The first mention under Early life is fine with just Hitler. Everybody with a brain/cognitive ability knows what article this is, right? --Malerooster (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with the practical approach and application put forth by Beyond My Ken. Kierzek (talk) 12:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of first name throughout bio 

message: Oh dear. Is this "punished him severely" vandalism? I recall the phrase came from that youtube series.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.99.126.230 (talk) 05:52, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: There is a paragraph in the article at the moment which reads:
 Hi, the last bit is what you added into the article. But, according to Joachim Fest's biography Hitler:
Where do you get the idea that Joachim Fest disagreed with Werner Maser?--OZZY19455 (talk) 19:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not add the text about Fest disagreeing with Maser.  Since it is unsourced, it can be removed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: But, actually, if you read the quote from Fest's Hitler that you cited, he does disagree with Maser.  Documents say Hitler's grandfather was X, Maser says Hitler's grandfather might have been Y, Fest says - basically - there's no way to determine which is correct, which means that he disagrees with Maser's hypothesis. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:41, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've altered the text to reflect the Fest quote above.  I suspect that the "too contrived" text was an attempt by someone to categorize Fest's statement, but not done all that well. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Fest seems to contradict himself a couple of pages later, "Like the Hiedlers or Huttlers, she came from Spital; and after his chage of name she was his niece, at least legally, so that a dispentation from the church had to be obtained for them to marry". (p. 17). He was wrong. They were legally first cousins once removed.--OZZY19455 (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joachim Fest's opinion about Alois Hitler's father 

message: "Alois was "awfully rough" with his wife Klara and "hardly ever spoke a word to her at home". Alois treated his children with similar contempt and often beat them."
Why would you put something like this in the guy's introduction page? Is this the wikipedia editor revenge because his son was Adolf Hitler? What kind of nonsense is this? 
This should be in the introduction of the page, all the other stuff is just to frame the guy as an evil demon:
"Alois Hitler (born Alois Schicklgruber; 7 June 1837 – 3 January 1903) was an Austrian civil servant in the customs service, and the father of Adolf Hitler, dictator of Germany from 1933 to 1945." 109.131.60.100 (talk) 15:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: All records of Otto can be updated, because the birth records of Braunau am Inn have been digitised and he really was born 17 Jun 1892 and died 23 Jun 1892. The baptism/birth record is available here for free on the third line: https://data.matricula-online.eu/cs/oesterreich/oberoesterreich/braunau-am-inn/106%252F1892/?pg=10, although it is obviously a primary source. The German Wikipedia has already changed its details. Also here is Adolf's birth record if it would be of interest: https://data.matricula-online.eu/cs/oesterreich/oberoesterreich/braunau-am-inn/103%252F03/?pg=176
212.79.110.148 (talk) 18:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: Thank you for your contribution, but unfortunately we're not really supposed to analyse such primary sources. I suggest seeking consensus for such a change. In the meantime, I will also ping  (an admin who's also familiar with the German Wikipedia) . Best,  M.Bitton (talk) 19:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the ping; I think  has summarized WP:PSTS correctly above. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Otto's birth 

message: Hi all. In the biography section listing his wives, it says he married Franciska (sp?) in 1883. However, in I believe the second paragraph under the bio breakdown, it says he was already married to her in 1876, when the bio says he was still married to Anna. Is this just an error, are the dates uncertain, or did I misread? 75.162.20.229 (talk) 02:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

text: *Maybe a timeline such as this should be added to the article. (With sources, of course.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction in marriage dates 

message: Shouldn't we mention in this article that the hypothesis that Alois Hitler was fathered by a Jewish man surnamed Frankenberger is also published in the 1940 book Inside the Gestapo? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 04:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''[[Inside the Gestapo]]'' 

message: Is this phrase, which is found in the current version of this article, grammatical? It seems rather awkward and non-standard.
:"Hitler had E1b1b DNA haplogroup"
173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:01, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed (I hope.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hitler had E1b1b DNA haplogroup"