Talk:List of PBS logos

message: Previously, the page indicated that the fifth logo was introduced in 1993. I changed this to 1992 as I am almost entirely sure that this was when the logo was introduced. I have seen material videotaped from PBS in very early 1993, and the fifth logo was present then, prior to the middle of the year when new network identities are usually unveiled. Also, I have confirmation of children's programs containing this fifth "adult" logo before the kids logo was introduced in 1993.
Additionally, the page previously indicated that the singing voice accompanying this logo was that of Sheryl Crow. Can anyone confirm this? I decided to temporarily remove this reference, as Sheryl Crow's first album wasn't released until 1993 and I think her presence here at an earlier time would seem unlikely.--Andrew T. 06:46, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fifth logo 

message: Can anyone identify who said the "This is P-B-S" voiceover in the sixth and seventh logos?--Andrew T. 06:46, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voiceovers 

message: Can anyone try to put some info regarding the last 3 logos into as much detail as the earlier logos?? Georgia guy 17:46, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last 3 logos 

message: Are all these 4.242 vandals of this article the same person?? 66.32.132.71 21:35, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've seen, yes (have a look at Pumpkin pie and Circuit City). Blocking this user is difficult because his/her ip address changes each time he/she logs on. --Bruce1ee 05:54, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  4.242 vandals 

message: Anyone able to put PBS Kids Sprout idents in this article yet?? Georgia guy 02:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Georgia guy 19:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  PBS Kids Sprout 

message: Recently 2 articles had their appropriate idents added to their articles, and I added a third as well (see my user contributions for which one it was, and for what the articles were, go to the image pages of the second and third idents in the list of pages that link there.) Georgia guy 01:09, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New thing 

message: There appears to be a pattern in what kind of voiceover each ident has. For every even-numbered ident, the voiceover status changes:
*2nd and 3rd idents have no voiceover, just instrumental music.
*4th and 5th idents have a male voiceover saying "This is PBS."
*6th and 7th idents have a female voiceover saying "This is PBS."
*8th ident says "We are PBS."
Will this pattern continue with future idents?? Georgia guy 19:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voiceover pattern 

message: Not to say you were totally wrong or anything, Andrew T., but I have proven thatthe fifth ident was first used in 1993.
My evidence for this can be found here:
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*Well, have you contacted the webmaster of that site, asking them to show that it is definitely 1993?? Georgia guy 18:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The PBS Kids ident started in 1993; the fifth PBS ident started in 1992. Please do not confuse these. Georgia guy 13:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the fifth ident... 

message: I love the current idents and the current ident music. WHo produced it, and where can I find the music? Seamus215 18:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some Internet site whose URL has escaped my mind has the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th idents with their music playing. Georgia guy 18:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Ident Music

message: I was watching PBS, and they had the eight idents, then a local WNET ident, the some new ident style with a lady listening to headphones with a subtle version of the tune. On the bottom it said "Be more Soulful" I'm not talking about the one with the lady with the headphones from the "current" look. What are your thoughts?Seamus215 01:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Idents?

message: The site is down until late December, 2006. So I got rid of the link. --Addict 2006 18:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV-ARK site down temporarily 

message: It's not even mid November! Seamus215 18:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, please note that the fourth ident might still appear on reruns of old shows, but I don't think reruns of shows from 1989-1992 are common enough these days on PBS. Georgia guy 14:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I know that... Addict 2006 02:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ninth Ident?

message: Is that info real, because I can barely find anything about it! --roygerdodger 03:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone made it up. Nick Jr. shows are NOT supposed to be on PBS! (except for Bob the Builder) Nate Speed (talk) 18:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nick Jr. On PBS? 

message: There have been too many believable hoaxes, like the Nick Jr. and 9th idents. We should probably have to talk about new content that pops up, because they may well be hoaxes. --Addict 2006 02:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoaxes 

message: Who else didn't think this was scary?69.141.79.71 01:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the 4th one? See above. --Addict 2006 17:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second ident 

message: There was an ident that had the P pals(You know, "This is P-B-S! Woo Hoo Hoo!) saying "Surprise!" and they were laughing. Anybody remember that? It's on You Tube, but I don't know how to provide a link.69.141.79.71 18:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  P Pals Surprise 

message: The second ident for NET begins "In 1969 the same man, although he did the voiceover in a BooHoo voice, would say "This is N-E-T..." uh what the heck is a "BooHoo voice"? Is this for real or trollery? Herostratus 03:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: BooHoo?

message: It says in the last link at the bottom of the article that the current logo (2002-present) is uncommon (in availability). Why is that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonghyunchung (talk • contribs) 
Maybe because of all the American Public Television idents or something. I don't really watch the channel. An excerpt from TeamFX2000: "Currently in use on most PBS first-run shows (exceptions: British imports and any show with the annoying “American Public Television” bumper). The variants are used randomly."
But I guess that's what the "unverifiable content" notice is for. --Addict 2006 22:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eighth logo "uncommon"? 

message: How many hoaxes can this article take? I have added the  tag on this article. Someone really should watch this channel in both regular and kids' programming blocks to catch those inconsistencies for what they are. --Addict 2006 18:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  9th again?! 

message: I saw it on Frontline last night, after the WGBH logo. You see three pizzazz words I forgot about on a purple background, then the words "Be more", the P-head and the "PBS" text. A voiceover says, "this is PBS". Someone should put this up as the ninth official PBS ident. Jonghyunchung 19:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That appears to be the exact same thing as the eight ident. Georgia guy 19:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I think there really is a 9th logo

message: I have put the first two logos back where they are -- removal of logos just because they scare someone is censorship (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedians against censorship). Please understand this -- the next time someone removes a logo on account of scaring, they will be officially warned; if they persist, they will be blocked. Knowing what Nate Speed did in other articles, I wouldn't take stock in what he says. -- azumanga 23:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. -- See also WP:IDONTLIKEIT. -- azumanga 03:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Call me Nate! And if you block me, I'll block you back, so there! HA! Nate Speed (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Childish behavior like that is NOT welcome at Wikipedia -- you are obligated to follow regulations; no one's above the rules. -- azumanga 23:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We do not censor 

message: I have reverted the order of the first two NET idents back to where they were -- how can the globe and fire one exist from 1958 to 1968, while the house logo was introduced in 1962? Makes no sense. -- azumanga 19:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NET Idents 

message: Any opinion about which ident is "best known" will depend hugely on who is making the call. For the 1998-2004 one (or any national ident) to be "best-known" is unverifiable and unattributed. --NellieBly (talk) 21:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Are we all college students here?

message: "For the television static, fuzz screen logo identification for NET, the second logo from 1962 to 1966, the male announcer proclaimed: 'This is N-E-T, the National Educational Television network.'
This text dosen't make sense to me, and I am sure that it wouldn't make sense to people that are reading this article. Could someone please clarify this? It seems to be implying that the announcer was saying his spiel over TV static! Lykoped (talk) 01:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone please clarify this? 

message: Youtube has video compilations of the idents and the ones I give here are two of the best:
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIn9r7w-Ms&feature=channel_page
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ey1Sl5Wk8&feature=channel_page
In the first one, starting at 0:18 into the video, the NET ident is one of the blocks that transform into the NET letters with a thin line representing a roof appearing on top. Is this ident merely a variation of the third ident? --Sephiroth9611 (talk) 16:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Youtube videos and missing idents

message: The article states that Liam Neeson is the announcer for the fourth indent who says "This is P-B-S". Is anyone sure of this? I ask this because a couple fans of Neeson were complaining, saying it wasn't his voice. How can this be verified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.253.54 (talk) 15:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voiceover for 1989 - 1993 ident 

message: I think that this page should be merged with PBS for the fact that this is a page for PBS logos.
173.89.180.19 (talk) 12:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: A number of concerns have been on this article for years. The article has survived 3 AFDs and editors participating in those discussions have pointed to numerous sources for references though that never seemed to make it to the article. Citation of sufficient references to demonstrate notability is not optional. Its got to be there. Let's take a week to update the article with good citations to 3rd party sources with good footnotes to clear up confusion on where this information comes from. As it stands all but 3 of the logos appear to be original research and the validity of the dates, descriptions and attributions is in question. After that week, anything that cant be properly cited can be removed.--RadioFan (talk) 14:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article concerns 

message: Do all you logo fans need this article anymore? You have this now? Why keep it?
:Does this mean all of Wikipedia should be deleted?? Almost everything on Wikipedia can be found somewhere else online. Georgia guy (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Five or six years ago, when this page was nominated for deletion, someone mentioned that its content was more worthy of a fan site than an encyclopedia. Now these logo watchers have their own fan site. The main contributors of the page run it. Is there still a need for this page? Freshh (talk) 02:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: I would like to know if there's any use for this talk page to have a template saying something like "Please do not add this article to Afd again unless..." Georgia guy (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afd template 

message: Anyone able to upload a few images for the sixth logo?? To avoid confusion with the third logo, please upload some images for what it looked like in the middle of the period of the logo and its announcement, rather than at the end. Georgia guy (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sixth logo image