Talk:Pan-Slavic colors

message: Poland had its colors way before panslavists, so this may be a pure coincidence. After all Flag of France is also  100% "pan-slavic". 
Therefore unless the statute of the flag says something about pan-slavism expressly or this is known from the history of the creation of the flag, one better not to list them. It is a common rule of wikipedia:verifiability. 
The most suspicious entries here are Poland, Sakha, Yamalia, Taimyria, "former Nenetsiya", "former Belarus".
Specifically, Poland and "former Belarus" would feel strongly against Panslavism, which for them means colonization by Russia, and in the latter case, total annihilation as nation.
Also, what the heck is "Flag of Ruthenians"? Dont' we know that the latter term requires a heavy disambiguation?
mikka (t) 17:18, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like that their design, especially of Chukotka, deliberately hints to a Russian flag, and there are solid reasons to think so. So I'd say not to worry about what is left here, until serious objections arise. mikka (t) 00:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyperpanslavism 

message: The dispute seems to have been solved so I have removed the -tag. --Palnatoke 09:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: I will remove the OR "Slavic" flags since it this article about Panslavic colours. The Flag of Poland is flag of Poles-not only those from Slavic ethnicity but also Tatars, Germans, Jews, Greeks who are members of Polish nation--Molobo (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All flags of countries with a Slavic majority are presented here, and it is clearly outlined which flags build on the "panslavic" colours and which don't. Such deletion as you conducted once already is pure vandalism. JdeJ (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do countries that have those flags present them as "Slavic" ? Can you back up this with reference ? Otherwise It can be considered OR to name them such. Also this is article about panslavic idea not about 'slavic flags' --Molobo (talk) 17:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panslavic and "Slavic" 

message: What is this? This article is about the Pan-Slavic colors, not Slavic nations using different colors. The sentence "The flags of some Slavic nations and entities, for various reasons, do not contain the Pan-Slavic colours" is especially indicative of useless information. Also, compare to the articles on Pan-African and Pan-Arab colors for precedent. Anyone have a compelling reason it should stay? danis1911 (talk) 16:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the flag of Bulgaria does not have the blue stripe, and yet it's  based on Pan-Slavic colors, it's just one color was replaced with green to represent agriculture. Just like the flag of Chad is a compromise between Pan-African and French colours and therefore may be mentioned in the article about Pan-African colors. Hellerick (talk) 13:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Using different colors" section 

message: This sentence would need a reliable source: "The same is true for the flag of Slovenia, which takes its colors from the flag of Carniola." It may be so but the inspiration for the flag may be pan-slavic as it was presented in 1848. I think statement such as this must be taken from a reliable source before being posted on wikipedia. --Odisej (talk) 14:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slovenian exception 

message: * Britain got its colour from the Irish, Scottish and English crosses, not borrowed from Russia or Dutch flags
* USA took it's colours from Britain
* The Dutch flag is not pan-Slavic because it wasn't based on Russia's flag, Russia's flag was based of the Dutch Flag.
* Finally, almost none of them are in stripes where as the Pan-Slavic colours are! See for yourself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.100.135 (talk) 17:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countries that are not pan-slavic 

message: First of all, I find it questionable, that Bulgaria should be mentioned at all since there isn't any proof or even a theory, that the Bulgarian flag could have anything to do with the panslavic colours. The green-white-red combination 
Second; even if it would be worth mentioning, that the Bulgarian flag is not panslavic, the sentence "instead having a flag very similar to that of Russia but with the central blue strip replaced by a green one" should be removed, since it is insinuating, that the Bulgarian flag has something to do with the Russian, but is not saying it. And indeed, it can't be said, since there isn't any evidence, that the Bulgarian flag descends from the Russian one, and that the blue has been "replaced" by green. So I wiil remove this part, if nobody objects. --Kreuzkümmel (talk) 23:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All right then. --Kreuzkümmel (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgaria 

message: Shouldn't the flags of Poland, Belarus, Bosnia etc be included there? Unless anyone objects, I think I will be adding them. Regards, --Spivorg (talk) 20:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, it's done. Best, --Spivorg (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You could probably include them into a separate section, something like "Flags of Slavic countries with non-Pan-Slavic colors", but not with the flag of the Sorbs, which actually follows the Pan-Slavic tradition. And what happened to Montenegro and Ukraine? Hellerick (talk) 01:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other Slavic flags" section 

message: Aside from the fact that this article provides no references whatsoever, it has been edited sporadically according to tastes (read as WP:OR as attested to by the talk alone.
While I don't wish to nominate the article for deletion, it's in desperate need of reliable and verifiable sources. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:06, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  No references 

message: I reverted your edit. You added the flag of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia to the gallery in this edit. You cited this page as a source. Now, I would like you to tell me where exactly on that page is the source that says that the flag has Pan-Slavic colors? I don't see any mention of Pan-Slavic colors on that page. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:22, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies for that reference not having specific mention of Pan-Slavic colours. Is this page more appropriate? P.S. this flag is already included at Wikimedia Commons list of Pan-Slavic flags. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 08:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  That source is not reliable because it uses Wikipedia as a source (it is almost copied from this version of this Wikipedia article). Using such source would be contrary to WP:CIRCULAR. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:46, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia 

message: Poland may not have blue, but it has red and white, should it be added to the article? Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 06:12, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if you find a reliable source that says Polish flag has Pan-Slavic colors. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:20, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? It seems like a WP:BLUE case to me. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 00:44, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No. The scope of this article is highly specific. An RS is needed or it's plain WP:SYNTH. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 18:28, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a point that the Polish flag has used red and white since the 13th century, about half a millennium before Pan-Slavism was conceived and a good 600 years before the tricolor was adopted. So it's best not to mention Pan-Slavic . --Coldtrack (talk) 20:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, good point. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 22:44, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poland