Talk:Hugh Despenser the Younger

message: Hugh appears on the list of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual people, and the link to that list appears at the bottom of the article, but no mention is made of his being Gay or Bisexual in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zekedunn (talk • contribs) 
: This entry was not signed or dated so it's not clear when it was written. Also, I do not see the need of capitalizing of several keywords (this is not the German Wikipedia). The list mentioned above does not exist as of July of 2021.
: ICE77 (talk) 23:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Hugh on the list of gay, lesbian and bisexual people

message: The article claims that "There was even a bizarre plot to kill Hugh by sticking pins in a wax likeness of him". Sounds a lot like voodoo, an African tradition clearly out of place in England of the 14th century.
Top.Squark (talk) 19:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Voodoo? 

message: What an odd title.  Shouldn't it be Hugh Despenser the Younger? john k (talk) 05:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well his name was Hugh le Despenser, not Hugh Despenser. In historically literature he is often called "the younger Despenser". Why? Because historians are an idiosyncratic bunch. Dsmdgold (talk) 16:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then Hugh le Despenser the Younger.  That he is called "the younger Despenser" in running text does not mean he is ever called "Hugh the younger Despenser," which is very strange.  One might call John Quincy Adams "the younger Adams" in certain contexts, but that doesn't mean our article on him should be called John the younger Adams.  Furthermore, "Despenser the Younger" gets nearly as many google hits as "younger Despenser", and none of the latter include his given name, while many of the former do.  john k (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Google Scholar gives 40 hits for "Hugh le Despenser the Younger" and none for "Hugh the younger Despenser". Google Books shows 386 to seven. I think a change of title may be justified. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 17:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of the article 

message: The raw violence of Hugh's death is not suitable reading material for children.  The vivid description should be softened for the general audience of an encyclopedia.67.185.161.127 (talk) 01:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too Violent for Children 

message: This post is just for information on why the trial for treason probably would not have included charges of sodomy. Before the passing of the Buggery Act 1533 sodomites were dealt with in the ecclesiastical courts. So it is quite possible that "his genitals sliced off and burned" but it would not have been as legal part of the punishment for alleged sodomy. -- PBS (talk) 08:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also little evidence that the relationship was sexual, and there is nothing in Edward II life to assume that he was homosexual, he fathered a number of children outside of marriage. John lilburne (talk) 11:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buggery Act 1533 

message: From the article
Citing: 
What makes Julie Frusher a reliable source? What makes the website www.hughdespenser.com a reliable publisher? -- PBS (talk) 08:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Julie Frusher a reliable source

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message: If this is the same family as the famous Spencers, could this be detailed? Valetude (talk) 23:43, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Despenser/Spencer? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus   (t · c) buidhe 00:54, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hugh Despenser the Younger →  – Per other le Despencers Staszek Lem (talk) 10:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 September 2020 

message: This article mentions "contemporary accounts" that do not include castration, unlike the account of Jean Froissart who, apparently, as explained in this article, if I interpreted correctly, relied on the account of Jean le Bel (Froissart's Chronicles include the execution of Hugh le Despenser (younger) of 1326 in Book I (years 1322–1377) and I assume they are based on Jean le Bel's account which Jean Froissart likely copied). Hence, there are X plus 1 accounts.
How many X accounts are we talking about?
Should the box on the top right mention both modes of execution, including the castration which is equally plausible and the one typically used in narrated documentaries?
ICE77 (talk) 00:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for the execution 

message: The article states that the method of hanging, drawing, and quartering usually did not involve castration, which is incorrect. Even Wikipedia’s own page on that method of execution specifically mentions emasculation as part of the process. 2601:805:600:DA50:0:0:0:2A15 (talk) 15:58, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Execution