Talk:Hawley Harvey Crippen

message: This is like a high school C- essay, full of contradictions and inconsistencies (e.g. some of the names), confused sequence of events and gaps in the storyline. One of the most absurd statements is that the torso was found but not the skeleton. Where does the author imagine that the skeleton is located?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.247.115 (talk) 12:18, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very poorly written 

message: "Furthermore, the new DNA tests do not in any way affect the fact that the body, regardless of whether it was Crippen's wife or not, was, in fact, poisoned and dismembered. However, if the body parts did not belong to Mrs. Crippen, her husband would be absolved of the specific charges against him." 
 
These two lines seem unnecessary and a little argumentative. This isn't a persuasive essay, it's an encyclopedia article. There's no need for the emphasis and support of the original verdict that the first sentence provides, nor for a statement attempting to refute it. I'd vote for both sentences being removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.197.1 (talk) 07:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor thing 

message: WikiProject Biography Assessment
Needs an infobox to truly be a "B" -- but otherwise it's well beyond a "Start" rating.
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 12:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: Why is the popular culture section marked as trivia? Several other people and objects have similar sections, often to the extent that they grow into whole separate articles. Rpeh 09:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone being overzealous. I'll delete it. Nick Cooper 13:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia? 

message: This article mentions cora's remains were found in many packages in the cellar. 
Is this correct?
I though that Inspector Dew found some human remains (minus all bones, head, feet and hands), and that Crippens defence was that the remains were not those of his wife.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.208.248.99 (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  remains in cellar 

message: Apparently PBS believes he was innocent. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/episode-home/executed-in-error The show airs tonight...
Bouncehoper (talk) 19:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  So what?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.247.115 (talk) 12:20, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: How did the phrase "Asger er sej" get in here?  I do not know Danish but it seems to mean 'Asger (a proper name meaning God's spear) is tough'
Spockvondeutschland (talk) 01:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danish phrase? 

message: "There remains some dispute over whether Dr Crippen did, in fact, murder his wife. One theory, which was first propounded by Edward Marshall Hall (who had initially been engaged to lead Crippen's defence, although he later gave up the brief)...
Marshall Hall (the pre-eminent defence barrister of his day) was never engaged to defend Crippen. His clerk refused the brief when it became clear that no money would be available to pay for MH's services until Crippen had sold his story to a newspaper. [source: "Marshall Hall": a biography that I cannot consult at present because it's in my home in the UK and I'm in Hong Kong.
58.153.85.103 (talk) 01:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doubts regarding the verdict 

message: I've changed all references to what was found in the cellar from "body" to "remains". What was found by police contained no bones, limbs or head. They found skin, organs and muscle tissue. This cannot be considered a "body" by any definition of the word. Kingadrock (talk) 05:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Body"? 

message: This section is basically a refutation of the new evidence (POV) instead of a neutral presentation.157.182.98.231 (talk) 05:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial new evidence 

message: Concerning the disposal of the remains of Cora Crippen the article states, "Crippen's trial revealed the meticulous manner in which the body had been disposed of. After death, Cora Crippen's bones and limbs were professionally removed and burned in the kitchen stove. Her organs were dissolved in acid in the bathtub, and her head was placed in a handbag and thrown overboard during a day trip to Dieppe."
According to the transcript of the trial, published by William Hodge & Co. Ltd. in 1920, nothing was said in court about the exact method employed in the dismembering of the corpse. It is merely stated that the bones, limbs, and head were not present. As for the dissolving of the organs in acid, the trial transcript makes it clear that some organs were preserved — heart, liver, lungs. 
Some rewriting is required here with better referencing.Grobblakk (talk) 20:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disposal of the remains 

message: There are several citations to [PBS series "Secrets of the Dead" "Executed in Error" Original United States broadcast October 1, 2008].  Is this a reliable source?  Cusop Dingle (talk) 16:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Reliable in the sense that the WP:RS policy uses (can be used to cite an indisputable fact or to backup that a specific source holds a certain opinion), yes. If you mean reliable in the sense that what it says is ultimately true and the opinions presented in it must be accepted as ultimate truth, no.  DreamGuy (talk) 21:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is PBS a reliable source 

message: These are the same drug, described as a calming drug first, then as a toxic compound later.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.145.159 (talk) 05:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scopolamine and hyoscine 

message: The article says: "Canada was then still a dominion within the British Empire.",
as opposed to the current situation: Canada is now still a dominion within the British Commonwealth.
I don't think there is any significance (to this article) that the Empire later became the Commonwealth.
Someone that knows the actual legal situation regarding extradition from Canada should rewrite that sentence to explicitly say what it currently only hints at.
(Or at least simply remove the misleading "then still".)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:1CA0:66:474:5146:37A0:84E0 (talk) 17:21, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada is *still* a dominion. 

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message: The article has had a mixture of British and American styles since its early post-stub days, most obviously in date formats. WP:ENGVAR and MOS:CONSISTENT call for internal consistency. A case for either could be be made on MOS:TIES grounds, but Crippen's notability and the article itself are predominently about the events in the UK. I propose that British English be adopted. Davidships (talk) 00:59, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  EngVar 

message: I think that this is good choice of wording for this section, but suggest that it be limited to substantive portrayals of the man or the case, including fictionalised or derivative ones.  Brief passing allusions or mere mentions of the name, especially where unreferenced, should be removed. Davidships (talk) 01:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of any objection, I have removed the most obvious ephemeral and unreferenced entries in the list. Davidships (talk) 19:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media portrayals