Talk:List of major opera composers/Archive 1

message: In order to make this list more specific, and to obviate confusion with other lists, I have added 'major' to the title. I hope this is acceptable to everybody.
Kleinzach 22:00, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Title change

message: I see Sullivan has just been added. Is he a major opera composer? - Kleinzach 00:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Arthur Sullivan]] major?

message: Hmm, Gustave Charpentier? I'm not really sure he makes the weight. Marc-Antoine C. maybe. Smetana should definitely be there and probably Cavalli. Dvorak? Ravel, I'd say, too. Otherwise fine --Folantin 20:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with deleting Gustave Charpentier. Not with adding Ravel (only minor operas), Not Cavalli - hardly performed. Not Dvorak as only one of his operas is performed at all regularly. What do other people think? - Kleinzach 01:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cavalli's an important composer in opera history. He's more performed nowadays than Alessandro Scarlatti (also historically significant though, so he should stay). Cavalli has made it to Glyndebourne in recent years. I vote for adding him and Smetana. --Folantin 08:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with adding Smetana. The words "in opera history" don't appear in the title of this article. IMO the list already has a number of marginal names that probably shouldn't be there if the list is to fulfill a useful purpose (i.e. info. for opera novices). Anyway let's see what other people think.  - Kleinzach 12:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I definitely think Marc-Antoine Charpentier should be added, and probably Gustave removed. Mak (talk) 18:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: OK. Let's set up a vote then. As a first step can interested parties please produce a complete list of deletions/candidates? - Kleinzach 09:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gustave?

message: Delete: Gustave Charpentier: only really wrote one opera (famous for one aria), rarely performed nowadays. Not really a "major". Folantin
*Delete per nom. Kleinzach 13:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Now deleted - Kleinzach 14:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you please add Dvorak at the bottom of the list so that we can vote on him properly? It's confusing if you make a recommendation under another composer. - Kleinzach 22:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now added - Kleinzach 15:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent if you can write about him, but I think we have a responsibility to link to substantial information. If that doesn't exist we are just leading readers up the (WP) garden path. (It's worth noting that substantial articles do exist for Borodin and Saint-Saëns and other 19th-century composers.) - Kleinzach 23:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: That's pretty subjective though, GT. Personally, I think Donizetti is vastly inferior to Mozart and Verdi, but there's no reason he shouldn't be on the list. The Baroque is pretty thinly represented. There are good reasons why a Cavalli article will be necessarily shorter than that of many later composers, namely most of the detailed information about his life simply hasn't survived (the same goes for many, many composers before the 18th century). --Folantin 08:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nominations for these selected lists always tend to be subjective. Re lack of detailed historical info on Cavalli, I don't think this adequately explains why there is still only one stub on his operatic output. I suggest writing some articles, then proposing him afterwards. Is that OK? - Kleinzach 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the addition of Cavalli, the greatest Italian opera composer of the Baroque period. --Al Pereira(talk) 01:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now added - Kleinzach 15:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now deleted - Kleinzach 14:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now deleted - Kleinzach 14:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now deleted - Kleinzach 14:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but are these people really part of the opera world? I don't think so. Many G&S fans have no interest in the wider repertory. - Kleinzach 16:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *Now deleted - Kleinzach 14:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Candidates for addition/deletion July 2006 (part 1)