Talk:Allegory

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'Prudence is not exemplified by the three animals, which are emblematical of the virtues of the three ages (the kingly lion of adulthood). Prudence is when a man (the face facing the spectator) makes decisions in the light of past experience (the old man) to prepare for the future (the young face). --80.8.200.250 19:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titian's painting 

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In film, one notable example is the 1960s British television series The Prisoner, starring Patrick MacGoohan.  The village in which he is kept in has been said to be an allegory of state control and has many interpretations, from Marxism and beyond." The very fact that a variety of interpretations are possible should give a more wary reader a cue that this is not an example of allegory. There are many evocative works of art with resonant symbolic content. --Wetman 00:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A mistaken example

message: Tolkien actually began to write the middle earth legendarium while being treated for trench fever.  He was ill for several months and then spent several more months convalescing in England.  It was during this time that he began to write his first middle earth work, the fall of gondalin.  The only reason that I mention this is that the proof offered to refute the allegory claim for the lord of the rings is faulty, regardless of the validity of the claim.  Just a note.
70.231.144.171 04:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the main argument against LoTR being allegory is that Tolkien specifically said that it wasn't (and I assume he knows).  I don't know about the timing of all his Middle-Earth stuff -- he'd been writing it for a good while before LoTR, as I understand things -- you are probably right on that.  However, the article only specifically talks about Lord of the Rings. --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 17:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A note on the Tolkien reference 

message: How is The Lottery an allegory? Answer: it isn't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 (talk) 22:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Rebuttal: Yes, it is. Why take the time to post if you're going to put so little effort into it?--216.110.81.170 (talk) 00:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: The Lottery???

message: Producer Tomoyuki Tanaka stated that the original "Gojira" was an allegory for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Bikini test in which a Japanese fishing boat was accidentally caught in the fallout.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.212.142.202 (talk) 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gojira

message: Intro on website:
The introduction seems to be stolen word for word from this website: http://www.siue.edu/~ejoy/allegory_notes.htm
n allegory (from Greek αλλος, allos, "other", and αγορευειν, agoreuein, "to speak in public") is a figurative representation conveying a meaning other than and in addition to the literal. It is generally treated as a figure of rhetoric, but an allegory does not have to be expressed in language: it may be addressed to the eye, and is often found in painting, sculpture or some form of mimetic art. 
Intro on article:
An allegory (from Greek: αλλος, allos, "other", and αγορευειν, agoreuein, "to speak in public") is a figurative mode of representation conveying a meaning other than the literal.
Allegory is generally treated as a figure of rhetoric, but an allegory does not have to be expressed in language: it may be addressed to the eye, and is often found in realistic painting, sculpture or some other form of mimetic, or representative art.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haridic (talk • contribs) 04:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism

message: DO NOT UNPROTECT THIS PAGE. Another user (possibly a vandal) had written the words {only boobs follow}. This qualifies for the lower quality of wikipedia articles.
Thank you,
Adasarathy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adasarathy (talk • contribs) 13:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: This article still lacks an opening definition that says "An allegory is..." A sentence or a brief paragraph is needed. --Wetman (talk) 21:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lacking an opening statement

message: Borges hated allegories. --201.254.248.5 (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Borges

message: first  4 paragraphs are repeated after examples!IIIIIIIII (talk) 02:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Repetition

message: Some have in fact interpreted the Wizard of Oz, or at least some aspects of it, as an allegory for the monetary debates of the early 20th century. Specifically the yellow brick road(gold) and the silver slippers. With some claiming the Cowardly Lion represented William Jennings Bryan. I don't know widely held this interpretation really is though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.208.172 (talk) 22:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wizard of OZ

message: This all-encompassing statement is unsourced and the examples show no evidence (excepting Gojira) of allegory outside of Western literature. If allegory is a common tool in Eastern (or other) literature also then it would be pertinent to find some examples of this to add to the list; failing this, the statement need be rephrased to something along the lines of "Allegory has been a favorite form in the literature of nearly every Western nation." D4g0thur 17:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The above said, the sentence itself is rather cumbersome as is and should probably be completely restructured regardless. D4g0thur 17:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: In the section Examples by Genre, it says The Crucible is not allegorical. However, in the article for The Crucible, it says "Miller wrote the play as an allegory to McCarthyism, when the US government blacklisted accused communists." Considering one is sourced, and the other is not, I propose that the reference to The Crucible be removed from the said section. Signature (talk) 03:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  On ''The Crucible'' 

message: C.S. Lewis wrote in a 1958 letter to a Mrs. Hook:
"If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair [a character in The Pilgrim's Progress] represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality however he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, 'What might Christ become like, if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?' This is not allegory at all." 174.102.42.226 (talk) 09:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: While it's difficult to refute a direct quote of the author's intent, I read this as the author struggling with the reality that he doesn't like it when others categorize his work. In other words, this is a Distinction_without_a_difference.216.110.81.170 (talk) 00:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: The Chronicles of Narnia

message: What about Reformation/Baroque allegory? That was quintessential to 17th/18th century political thinking, as many of your artworks show. It should include the entire Commedia del'Arte, Hogarth and the 18th Century satirists, Molière and Racine, and the Court Masque.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.90.202 (talk) 00:03, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A missing section 

message: Lady justice has a reference to a feminist article studying the prevalence of female allegories. I changed a bit the wording of the sentence, because I thought it was unclear (the original sentece referred to "male gendered realities"). However, I have a nagging doubt about this reference, but my German is not good enough to read the original article, and the English summary is not helpful. It seems to me that most of the examples are female because they are personifications of abstract names which were grammatically female in Latin; does the article addresses this point, maybe with examples from non-European cultures? In case, I think it would be more interesting to link this reference from an allegory which can not be traced to grammatical reasons, though the Tarot card "The world" is the only example I can think of at the moment; does the article give other examples?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ossido (talk • contribs) 14:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lady Justice 

message: We should remove the long, random, non-comprehensive, unreferenced list of supposedly allegorical works. It is achieving nothing.  Span (talk) 19:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: List of works

message: I agree that we should get rid of the list of allegorical works. Whoever wrote this seems to not have done research to support it. I also think we should get rid of the "etymology" section and the "types of allegory" section. The etymology is usually in the very beginning, and there isn't much information in the current category to justify its existence. Anyway, it looks like the author used a lexicon dictionary to translate, which isn't very thorough or reliable. The "types of allegory" section doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given the focus on what Frye has to say. I think that "types" can be easily discussed throughout, as there are really only a few types, and the larger differences can be found in different time periods of allegory. KAH 17:55, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes proposed 

message: Why is there no discussion of Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress or Shaw's The Black Girl in Search of God? Both are based on the same basic conceit, an allegorical equation of a person's inner, spiritual life and an outward, physical biography. Even if this is strange kind of allegory, or if it could be argued to be no true allegory at all it is probably at least worth a mention in an article like this? --Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:51, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious allegory? 

message: The name or title of “Interabang” an allegorical tale, applied to a glass wall mural.
The artworks commissioned by Tyrone Power, the stage and screen star actor of Hollywood.
 Look magazine 4 pages December 2, 1954 “The Powers Pose for their Portraits” featured Linda Christian discriptions attributes of the artworks. Kirkosify (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Interabang ⁉️ 

message: Could use an example of allegory as their is a extremely good definition but no good example 2001:4490:4825:7ABA:781B:F8F6:184C:7A3E (talk) 11:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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