Talk:Nutella

message: Everyone who likes Nutella knows that you can taste the difference between each factory. Can someone who has tried all of them describe the differences?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:EE2:600:900:30A3:D4BA:AC12:9EC7 (talk) 15:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between Nutella from each of the factories? 

message: Can't seem to log in on my phone, but the title of the book cited is ' Chocolate: The Saga ...'  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.233.244 (talk) 17:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Type-o 

message: I eat nutella everyday in the morning it tastes very nice it is chocolatey.  Why does it sometimes go very runny in the bottle?  Do people in other countries eat nutella?  I never knew this site had such a broad range of topics it even has stuff on nutella! yum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.16.67 (talk) 
:Yes, it is sold in the States and it goes runny becuase it relates to science, becuase it expands with the heat. Kilo-Lima|(talk)
::When I'm having 'fat' days, I like to drink Nutella. Women's psychology... it makes me feel fatter... but we enjoy feeling miserable, I think. 58.166.243.40 11:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a food group that includes strange brown sauces such as Nutella, Vegemite, and Marmite? - Amorwikipedia 20:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: This article is not NPOV. If it does not assert unequivocally that Nutella is the most delicious food on Earth, then it is biased against Nutella. Octavabasso (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the extremely high sugar content of this product should be made clearer in the article?  It's mostly sugar, which may account for why people like it.  Most chocolate bars have less sugar.  One might also argue that it's an awful food product to give to kids (because of all the sugar) but you'd need to cite a reference. 14.200.208.126 (talk) 04:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  !Yum! 

message: Hello, vanillin is not considered an artificial flavour-its substitute bourbonal is.  
01:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ingredients - USA 

message: What is a stereotypical container? --Gbleem 23:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Containers and glasses 

message: In Australia "Sweet William"? Never heard of it. "Sweet william spread" only yields 4 results in Google. I'm deleting it. 203.171.193.113 07:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That search is probably too restrictive. Here's a slightly better one, which yields about 20,000 hits, including each of the products offered by that company. Adding the word "spread" to the search reduces it to about 1,000 results. I'm not going to undo your edits, I'm only citing this so other editors can inspect the results. Mindmatrix 14:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It’s nut-free, which seems to me to make it distinctly marginal. —Ian Spackman 07:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Competitors 

message: Nutella was available in the USA in the 70's. As a child I would buy it at local mainstream food stores. It did not cost much more than a jar of peanut butter so it was not too expensive and certainly not hard to find. But than, maybe this was only true in the New York metroplitan area where I grew up. The article as written is misleading on this point.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.146.118 (talk) 14:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: just bought a jar yesterday in amarillo walmart  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.55.20.229 (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Availability in USA 

message: Nutella popular in Canada??  Where??  Sure, it might be available in grocery stores but the bottles are always dusty because nobody buys it.  I would guess that it might be popular with European expats but apart from that, the average Canadian has probably never bought the stuff or even heard of Nutella.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.4.163 (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular in Canada? 

message: Can someone fix the listed ingredients table so it appears under composition like it's supposed to instead of at the bottom of the page? I'd do it myself, but I'm at a loss when it comes to computer code. PeRiDoTs13 (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listed ingredients table 

message: The jar in the picture is from Germany, not from Spain as it said before. One can even see the German print ("mit dem Besten aus gut 1/3 Liter entrahmter Milch") on the label.--86.103.202.16 (talk) 17:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture caption 

message: On 2009-10-19, this article was robust, if somewhat bloated.
On 2009-10-20, the article was completely gutted by an overzealous editor, SluggoOne.  75% of the article was wholesale removed at once.  Good form.
I'm going to reinstate the ingredients list.  If anything else of value was lost, I don't personally know about it, but someone else might.  For me, it's nice to be able to benefit from the superior consumer protection and labeling laws in countries outside of North America.  Please don't take that away from us.  Especially in Canada, you can hide an entire food product under "spices" or "natural flavor".  It's bad.
I'm bringing this up because SluggoOne never bothered to.  That, to me, is important.  I'm sorry, but I refuse to assume good faith here; that was forfeited when such a massive edit was undertaken without any discussion whatsoever.  Too often have I seen articles secretly deteriorate because people remove information in ostensibly mundane edits.  Please discuss large scale changes on the talk pages, rather than hiding them in nondescript edit summaries.  Thanks.
--99.240.223.41 (talk) 22:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article was gutted 

message: Cocoa is a disambiguation page;  likely all links to it from this article intend cocoa powder but there is a chance they intend chocolate liquor.  I have tagged some of the links . --Una Smith (talk) 21:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cocoa 

message: Does Nutella is vegetarian?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.185.62.208 (talk) 14:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nutella does it vegetarian, yes. --92.74.18.114 (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: source? 177.105.90.10 (talk) 18:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegetarian? 

message: According to the ingredients list, the Polish version would contain grapeseed oil. I highly doubt that (rather expensive stuff that) - rapeseed seems much more likely.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HStreek (talk • contribs) 07:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to agree. We could do with a reliable source that lists the ingredients, but despite searching I cannot locate one. magnius (talk) 11:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article used to say "rapeseed". I managed to pinpoint the edit where this was changed into "grapeseed". The edit's author was an anonymous IP, and this is its only edit. So, even knowing nothing about Polish Nutella, I'd be inclined to revert to "rapeseed". Any thoughts? Goochelaar (talk) 13:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I support that, Grapeseed is unsourced anyway, and as Rapeseed was the original word it should be used. magnius (talk) 13:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grapeseed oil, really? 

message: I'm a little confused by the ingredients list and it's not explained - does the list reflect an actual difference of ingredients in different countries, or is it the same product everywhere, and the list is meant to demonstrate divergent international labelling requirements? For example, I know rapeseed oil and vegetable oil are clearly different (I notice the uncertainty of this fact), but palm oil can also be listed as vegetable oil (which it is). Similarly cocoa vs reduced fat cocoa (cocoa powder is by definition cocoa solids with most of the cocoa fat removed), or vanillin vs flavouring (vanillin is a flavouring), or whey vs lactose (lactose being the principle constituent of whey). Without explanation this listing is pretty unhelpful. Is it a different product in different countries, or not?90.194.145.141 (talk) 00:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ingredients list 

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message: According to the Nutella website (for America, anyway), Nutella contains soy oils. This is not reflected, and I'm not sure my edits are taking hold because of the autoconfirmation. 
http://www.nutellausa.com/ingredients.htm
Cocomaan (talk) 14:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ingredients are incomplete 

message: According to http://www.nutelladay.com/ February 5th 2012 is the 6th World Nutella Day. Their press page http://www.nutelladay.com/press/ has several cites. Should this be added to the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.81 (talk) 18:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Nutella Day 

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message: The French seem to have passed (or about to pass) a tax on Palm Oil. Nutella is 20% Palm Oil, hence why the tax is dubbed the Nutella-tax. Might be worth covering.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/12/france-nutella-amendment-international-row Cbetta (talk) 16:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Nutella Tax 

message: User:Cbetta asked me to have a look at this article. In the current edit history, there is some back and forth about whether quoting an ingredients list counts as WP:OR. I would suggest that it isn't for the following reason. An ingredients list is a self-published primary source. I don't see the fact that it's on the side of a jar to be that problematic. In fact, some ingredients lists and dietary information notices on foodstuffs is certainly going to be held legally by the governments of various nations to a higher standard than things like newspapers, which we do consider a reliable source.
This kind of thing probably ought to be something Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink decide across food articles generally. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The refe on this section, http://www.nutellausa.com/ingredients.htm, also list these. I removed vegetble oil(mainly palm..) as only palm oil is mentioned in the reference. Murry1975 (talk) 05:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ingredients lists as original source? 

message: There's been a flurry of edits back and forth on sugar after this post http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/13kevd/til_that_the_first_ingredient_in_nutella_is_sugar/. It used to state 50% sugar, was edited to 15%, back and forth a few times and ended up being removed. According to the nutrition facts on nutella's usa web page http://www.nutellausa.com/nutrition-facts.htm there's 21g sugar in a 37g serving. That's about 57% sugar. I don't feel comfortable editing the page myself. Just wanted to bring it up.
Bibiarndal (talk) 04:14, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That only applies to the USA. Recipes vary regionally. Alohamesamis (talk) 14:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So what? That can be easily mitigated by adding the qualifier "In the United States...".  The information is not original research if it has a credible source. Ingredients for the Italian version of the product can be found here, which clearly states that sugar constitutes 56.7% of the product (the line "di cui: zuccheri" translates to "of which: sugar"), and hazelnuts represent 13%. The US product, from the source mentioned above, has sugar as 56.8% of the product. [User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]matrix 17:04, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Zuccheri means sugars, not sugar. If someone were to read "sugar", they would assume that it refers to sucrose. Sugars has an altogether different connotation. Alohamesamis (talk) 20:43, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Then the statement "Nutella consists of 56.7% sugars" is valid. We can include a parenthetical listing the sources of the sugar from the ingredient list (namely: sugar, hazelnuts, milk solids). [User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]matrix 22:30, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't believe that the ingredients list provides a breakdown of where the sugars come from. I have nothing against listing the amount of sugars, once it is noted that the proportion listed refers to the amount in one particular country, rather than claiming to represent nutella worldwide. Alohamesamis (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the claim it's for only one country - the nutritional label for the US has the same proportions for sugars, as does the one for Canada and Mexico (Nutella for these markets is produced in Canada, specifically Brantford, Ontario). We get the same results for Italy, UK and Ireland, France, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, and other European nations (don't know about Germany, as Ferrero's site for Germany seems to be void of info). I don't have the energy to list them all. The product for South American and Oceania countries does appear to differ, but not much. For example, New Zealand and Australia are 54.4% sugars. The China site is marketing fluff. [User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]matrix 02:54, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A german ingredient list has the ingredient with the highest quantity on top, though not necessarily specifying percentage. If it says "Zucker" (sugar) it means sucrose - fructose syrup or glucose syrup would be referred to separately. A german nutrition list however lists carbohydrates and to which degree they are made up of sugars, here "Zucker" means not only sucrose, but all types of sugar contained in the product, with no regard to whether they are added or a natural component of an ingredient.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.64.85 (talk) 23:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sugar 

message: "Now that the paste is what is societally identified as Nutella"
What?  Even given the silly use of "societal" for "social", which I suppose we have to just accept now, this makes no sense. --31.185.192.220 (talk) 13:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gobbledook 

message: Reference #2 (Carridice, Adriel. "The History of Nutella (3)". NutellaUSA.com. Retrieved 2013-01-28) is broken. Anyone has an alternative? --199.203.92.42 (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added archive links for all three uses of that site as refs. [User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]matrix 13:36, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Reference 

message: The 'Food energy' line in the info box seems to be constrained to just state a number (of kcal) without indication of portion size.  A Nutella label shows 80 kcal for a 15g serving. But I'm not sure how to fix this.  Can anyone help? Onanoff (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Food energy 

message: Article says:
The traditional Piedmont recipe, Gianduja, was a mixture containing approximately 71.5% hazelnut paste and 19.5% chocolate. It was developed in Piedmont, Italy, due to a lack of cocoa beans after post-war rationing reduced availability of the raw material.
With a citation from the Nutella USA website
But in reality, Guanduja
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianduja_(chocolate)
Was invented in Turin, Piedmont during French occupation (1796-1814)
Some parts of this article also seem to imply credit to Ferrero for the creation of Gianduja 2001:8003:2463:ED00:ADB9:112:D45E:9AAC (talk) 04:14, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gianduja not created by Ferrero. 

message: I have seen your add on television and it’s not right as in schools in the uk you cannot give children Nutella due to some people being allergic but it clearly shows a teacher in a play ground spreading Nutella clearly your company have not done any inquiries into this situation  Gilliantones (talk) 10:25, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising Nutella  

message: CNN: "It is not the first time that demand for Nutella has turned violent." nutella-discount-sparks-chaos Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:54, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutella riots? 

message: My documentation of hazelnuts and cocoa being used together in Piedmont was deleted because it "Seems out of the scope for the Nutella page". Presumably because it ALSO gives info on Gianduja. But the existing entry already mentions the latter and gives the (false) impression that it was invented after World War II.
Basically, the mixture of the two was originally known as gianduja. That already existed as a candy long before the reference given from the Nutella page. It is NOT out of scope for the Nutella page because Nutella itself is said to derive from gianduja.
Maybe my own entry needs to be rewritten. But just deleting it leaves people with the false impression that the product which became Nutella did not exist until after World War II. 
23.113.53.110 (talk) 21:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Separated "Pasta" from the link of just gianduja. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get what's going on here at all. The product in question was called Pasta Gianduja: "He created Pasta Gianduja: a small loaf of chocolate hazelnut paste meant to be sliced and served on bread. The same year he sold an initial batch of 600 pounds of Pasta Gianduja." https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/01/06/napoleon-nutella/ Gianduja was already a candy at that point, and still is today; not the same thing as a paste made of the two ingredients. And why clarifying this point is considered irrelevant is beyond me. You will see numerous sites claiming that Nutella came about after the idea of cutting chocolate with hazelnuts appeared after WW2, when in fact it existed since just after Napoleon. Why ever would it be considered irrelevant that the mixture from which this paste was made, and the name applied to it, both pre-existed the dates given in the article?
23.113.53.110 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 23:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't need that long winded explanation. All it really needs is the link to Gianduja where it is explained. Altered: "...batch of Pasta Gianduja, derived from Gianduja." Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Nutella and Gianduja

message: Do we believe it's natural or is it made out of other chocolate we will never no except what they tell us 82.25.145.201 (talk) 21:25, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuttella is made out of melted chocolate or coca beansns???? 

message: The first line links to "cocoa" and "spread" but maybe it's more sensible to link to "chocolate spread" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_spread) instead. Axelbrink (talk) 18:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to "chocolate spread" instead of "cocoa" and "spread" 

message: Decided to move that removed gallery into the Wikimedia Commons page for Nutella under the header 3 "Nutella as an ingredient". I believe this would be a more suitable place to add large galleries of Nutella-related stuff.
Speaking of Wikimedia Commons, should we still do a Commons link to the category variant of "Nutella" or the article variant of "Nutella"? We are currently linking to Commons' category variant of "Nutella". Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 02:24, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:GALLERY. Veverve (talk) 06:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved gallery to Wikimedia Commons