Talk:O'Brien Trophy (ice hockey)

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*Oppose Every source I've found, including the HHOF website refers to it as the O'Brien Trophy. It is possible that it was known as the O'Brien Cup for a period, but it is now more commonly called the O'Brien Trophy. -- Scorpion0422 02:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: It's implied above that the trophy/cup is displayed at the Hockey Hall of Fame, but neither this article nor the Hall of Fame article actually says this. Probably they both should, assuming it's true. Andrewa (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was on display when I went to the Hall. In the community trophies section, early hockey. If they stop displaying it, do we modify the article to say that, too? Alaney2k (talk) 14:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably we should just have the info as to where it's normally kept/displayed/whatever in the article on the trophy itself, and link to that article from any articles on the venue(s) themselves. But the information belongs somewhere, if the trophy is notable enough for an article, which it clearly appears to be. Andrewa (talk) 23:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Location

message: The addition of 1909 awarding is not reliable. One web site, not the Hockey Hall of Fame, or some reliable source like that. Until there is a reliable source that can show it is the same trophy and that it was awarded, it should not be included. Alaney2k (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1909 awarding 

message: If you look at the team pictures for the Maroons in 1926 and the Senators in 1927, you'll see that the O'Brien Cup is in the picture.
Here is the Maroons: link (It's in the bottom right, Prince of Wales in the bottom left)
Here is the Senators: link The O'Brien is centre-right.
I think this is clear evidence that the O'Brien was still awarded until 1927 to the NHL champion.
The question is: how do we list this? Alaney2k (talk) 19:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to know what it was awarded for, however.  For all we know, the previous champion simply passed it to the next champion along with the POW Trophy.  It may not have been officially presented by the league. Resolute Lest We Forget 20:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to see if there is anything in the Globe online archives which I can get at through my library. I think it was given, but somehow through time it's been forgotten. Like the O'Brien Cup name. At the least, we should have a note about it soon. I just want to avoid the idea that this is original research. I think the real problem is that we are relying too much on one source, the HHOF web site, which has lots of errors. Alaney2k (talk) 21:04, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  O'Brien was awarded in 1924 through 1927 

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