Talk:Isla de la Juventud

message: I removed the prices, because I think it is not very encyclopedic. Prices change too quickly. Pascal 10:51, 17 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In the first paragraph, the island is described as "a special municipality of the Province of Havana", yet the last sentence in the article is "The province has only one municipality named also Isla de la Juventud.". These statements appear to contradict each other. Could someone with more knowledge of the situation clarify? -- nknight 18:30, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Province or municipality? 

message: Amnesty International List of Prisoners
List of Prisons on the island: 
    *  Prison El Guayabo MIS Island of Youth
    * Center for Reeducation of Minors COR Island of Youth
    * Correctional Los Colonos COR Island of Youth
    * Paquito Rosales Cueto (1 y 11) COR Island of Youth
    * Prison la 60 (Columbia) COR Island of Youth
from Cuba-Junky.com
:Apparently, there is also another El Guayabo Prison, now closed, in Costa Rica.
--Jpbrenna 06:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Prisons on Isla de Juventud 

message: that whateverhisnameis has compared Matos's claims to the WMD controversy. you can't tar this guy as a Batistiano, and he has absolutely no reason to lie about it (last time I checked, he wasn't really well-known -- didn't really gain anything, did he?) to think otherwise, you'd have to be a Castro sympathizer, which I think can be fairly concluded from this particular group of users' rabid reversion of all my edits. J. Parker Stone 02:52, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Your drawing conclusions like this is original research. Look, I arrived at a useful compromise. I attributed the torture allegation to an individual, Huber Matos. You reverted it. Why? Have others made allegations they were tortured on the island? Fine, then come back with citations. Thanks. Viajero 10:58, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with Viajero.  Yesterday, I removed a reference to a "parody court" in the article about George Papadopoulos.  There have been numerous poltical trials where evidentiary standards were weak, charges fabricated and the motivations for prosecution purely political. (See Witold Pilecki for one example).  Still, "kangaroo court" is a decidedly POV phrase.  You could discuss specific problems with the case, and if you have quote from Matos where he calls it a kangaroo court, then you could include it. --Jpbrenna 16:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: It is completely disgusting

message: The statistics box says 86,559. The article says about 100,000. Am i missing something?
:-According to cuban census 2001 (), it's 86,559. Qyd(talk)20:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: The general principle is that whenever there is a convention of calling something by its English name, we should use that name in Wikipedia. Hence, we have Florence, Turin, the Hague etc (rather than Fiorenzi, Torino...). The link I followed to this page was certainly in English "Isle of Youth", so that rule should be applied - even if, as pointed out above, it produces inconsistency with other provinces. There's a precedent: Corsica has its English name (not Corse), even though all the other French régions are named in French (Ile de France, not Isle of France, for example). Stevage 15:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, American cities have names in other languages - like Nueva York is Spanish for New York. It seems kind of random - we started calling Ivory Coast Cote d'Ivoire awhile ago, but we still call it India, not Bharat. I think Isle of Youth is fine --AW 23:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Londres. --Zleitzen 23:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be named in English 

message: In the article, it says 3,056 km2. Yet in the statistics box, the figure is 2,419.27 km2. According to the Web Site of the Government of the Republic of Cuba, http://www.cubagob.cu/ingles/otras_info/dpa/cc0916.pdf, the area is 2 419 km2. And the Cuban national statistics bureau (Oficina Nacional de Estadísticas), at http://www.one.cu/aec2006/anuariopdf2006/capitulo1/I.3.pdf, likewise states the total area as 2 419 km2, which includes 215 km2 of adjacent keys (cayos adyacentes). Where did this 3056 figure come from? I was about to change it, but since I noticed it in the other language Wikipedias, I just thought I'd ask where it came from. Can someone please clear this up? Thank you. A Gate Through The Past 00:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area 

message: I will rename the article to Isla de la Juventud - as it is by far the most commonly used name in English. See The World Factbook ( a government body, I might add) here, Lonely Planet here, etc. I've never seen it being called the Isle of Youth on any map. Óðinn 23:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent. Now, I noticed when I search for this article, "juventud" must be typed capitalized or else it will go to a search page.  Any way to fix this? Also, should there be a disambiguation page since an article about their baseball team, of the same name, exists? I don't mean to give you extra work, but I don't know how to do this. Thanks. A Gate Through The Past 00:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know of no general way of fixing such trouble; but I added a redirect from Isla de la juventud, which hopefully fixes this instance.-JoergenB (talk) 17:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming

message: This was the island that was mentioned on american dad. Now why did they show that the island has a different ruler then cuba (other answers beyond it being a stupid cartoon)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.103.158.84 (talk) 15:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  american dad 

message: The article specifically mentions that the Island's ownership was not mentioned in the Platt Amendment but I believe it was.
Article VI of the Platt Amendment:
"That the Isle of Pines shall be omitted from the proposed constitutional boundaries of Cuba, the title thereto being left to future adjustment by treaty"
Hope this can be sorted out.
136.167.157.192 (talk) 06:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platt Amendment Mention 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think i saved w/o summarizing, after breaking the second graph, for which novalid topic sentence could be imagined, into two independent  'graphs, each itself unified. Jerzy•t 01:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to have edited the article via my IP address some minutes ago. (But I'm not sure whether I have still more to say abt it.) --Jerzy•t 03:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section