Talk:Niagara Falls, Ontario

message: I removed this section, as it only had a link to the falls itself (which is linked prominently in the article already) and to a local hostel. Considering the amount of hotels and attractions locally adding a link just to one establishment seems a little suspect. The contributor seems to only be adding pseudo-advertisement style text for this hostel to the wiki anyways. Avwhite 13:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: See Also

message: Would it be pertinent to mention that the town is a tacky and ugly tourist trap? Lee M 02:16, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, just shooting off a bit there. One could mention however that the town is tourist-oriented, and apparently insensitive to the jarring visual impact of some of the buildings and watchtowers along the shoreline. Lee M 03:47, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It's actually a beautiful city to live in as a resident, though the traffic is heavy.  Residents know not to go into the tourist areas.  I actually miss living there.  And of course, Niagara Falls, ON is far better than that muckhole known as Niagara Falls, New York. Snickerdo 21:03, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

text: As a current resident, this is true. Chrisb65 (talk) 17:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Tacky and ugly tourist trap 

message: Having made three dozen trips to the area between 1975 and 2003, and also having become interested in the history of not only the tourist areas, but also the park areas, I have noticed that historical people, places and events surrounding Niagara Falls are not well represented (or at least not well organized or publicized) in Wikipedia.
I have added some small articles with a historical flavor amongst the general pages of Niagara Falls.  I wonder about the possibilities of linking more historical pages to this site, or even creating a mini-wiki detailing the area, past & present.  I have some historical knowledge and consider the idea intriguing.
Any ideas or suggestions, be it positive or negative?  Thanks.  Kevindh71 03:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the area's rich history? 

message: I apologize to the editor who set up the new demographic table in this article, but somehow when they added it they also simultaneously removed a huge amount of the content contained in the article at the same time and then failed to correct it. My technical skills are such that I was unable to re-include the new demographic table, I'm hoping that someone else with sufficient skills will replace it.Deconstructhis (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Restored Article

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:RMNiagaraFlag.jpg

message: The adult entertainment in Niagara is very well known not only in Southern Ontario and Western NY but is becoming a focal point for many visitors in the past 10 years.  Is there any reason not to discuss this booming industry either in the Economy section or in its own section?  Niagara is a very popular spot for the students because of the strip clubs and body rub parlors.  Obviously much of this page is a puff piece for Niagara tourism but discussing this popular attraction is well within the guidelines of wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.138.214.116 (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adult Entertainment 

message: Individual neighbourhoods within cities — especially smaller cities such as Niagara Falls — are not necessarily entitled to independent articles. References need to be added to Silvertown, Ontario to demonstrate that it's genuinely notable as a separate topic in its own right, or it needs to be redirected to the city's main article. Bearcat (talk) 23:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been a couple of weeks and no references added. I recommend simply redirecting it to Niagara_Falls,_Ontario#Communities, as there isn't much to merge. P. D. Cook Talk to me! 19:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silvertown 

message: Is the motto really "Unforgettable Weekends from $49"? Could someone source that, please? Looks like a bit of a joke or hoax.--Newbiepedian (Hailing Frequencies) 16:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto... 

message: The article has a list of "communities" and a list of "Niagara Falls neighbourhoods".  Does anyone know the difference?  Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 07:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that the communities listed are former villages, towns, and townships that have been amalgamated into Niagara Falls.  The neighbourhoods are merely subdivisions within the communities. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 03:04, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Communities 

message: I'm not sure why you removed, "Its tourist areas had many attractions and a vibrancy, while Niagara Falls, New York languished in a prolonged economic downturn."  It's completely true. Is it because it was unsourced?  Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounded unlikely to me and it was unsourced, which is why I removed it. I'm mostly trying to verify what I can to get rid of the 8-year more citations needed tag. The phrasing with "vibrancy" made me think it was more PR-y than nessecarily true. If Niagara Falls, New York did go into a prolonged economic downtown compared to Niagara Falls, Ontario, I have no issues with restoring the content. Preferably with a citation and without the peacock-like "vibrancy" in wikivoice. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The wording is promotional, but the content is correct.  I haven't read the whole article to see if it's sourced someplace else.  If it's unsourced, then best not to add it back.  Maybe I can find a source.  As an aside, a few years ago I expanded Lake Ontario Ordnance Works.  It's about 10 miles from the falls, and contains most of the nuclear waste produced during the creation of the first atom bomb. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:31, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Huh. I wonder if that had an impact on the tourism. I'm not really familiar with our American counterpart that much and I see ads for NF, NY, all the time (and knew a ton of people who'd cross the border for better gas prices etc growing up) so I figured it might have been a "come to our city, we're better" thing. I didn't really see anything from a quick glance about NY's declining tourism either but it's quite possible I missed something. In general I try to add citations instead of removing content if it's possible. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  So I started a "Comparison to Niagara Falls, New York" subsection in economy. Thoughts? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:58, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niagara Falls, New York, and possible economic downturn 

message: In regards to your revert here, that information really is outdated. The source cited is from 2012 (more than a decade ago). I added new content to address an IP's concern that the entire paragraph was outdated . The same source I used there quotes the mayor of the city saying that a person can only refuse to pay it if it doesn't show up on their bill. This source also makes it clear that it is not voluntary. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've used the latter source to provide context here. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Content was deleted, but still supported by the source cited. If the source cited is no longer accurate, and a newer more accurate source has been added, just remove the outdated source. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Huh? I removed the outdated content the first time but not the source because it still supported the other content that was there and I saw no need to do so. You reverted me. I explain that it's outdated again, pointing to other sources used in the article already that directly contradict the "voluntary" aspect. Just now, I added more content cited from another source providing context about why the fee isn't completely voluntary. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  So, you kept an old source because it supports part of the content, but does not support other content, which has been updated by another source you added.  Ok. Then just revert my edit. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm glad we're on the same page now. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion