Talk:Bombings of Heilbronn in World War II

message: Hey, whats wrong with grammar? And anyway, if there is something wrong, why didnt you fix it? Its not finished anyway. ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 10:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Bomber Command War Diaries (published in 1985) list no air raids on Heilbronn as taking place on December 17, 1940. Mannheim was attacked on the night of 16/17 December 1940 and again on the night of 17/18 December 1940. 173.79.230.235 (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

message: Your 'see also' choice of Terrorism is going to provoke debate ...  Not sure what you meant by 'industrial place' is this a road name, as in Plaß/Plass/Place?  If so, the names should be capitalised.  Or is it an industrial area?  A very interesting read - well done you. 82.32.238.139 00:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for admonishion 82.32.238.139, and thank you for removing bad link. willhsmit ♣ ÅñôñÿMôús  Dîššíd3nt 05:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: which 'industial place" are you on about? ♣ ÅñôñÿMôús  Dîššíd3nt 07:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You wrote it, mate! You can use CTRL-F to search the page. December Raid  Aftermath and other information, fourth para: "Much of the population of Heilbronn, the bombing being conducted on a Monday evening, were positioned in or around the city centre, but at the first signs of attack, many fled to a high shelter (General Wever tower) and two other low shelters (at the industrial place and at the Emperor Friedrich place)."  There when I edited early this morning but since changed to 'industrial area'  The capitalisation of Emperor Freidrich Place still needs doing if it is a proper (street/place) name.  I don't have that knowledge. 82.32.238.139 21:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah yeah, I know what your on about. It's all good now; industrial area is right, and emperor place is good in caps. ♣ ÅñôñÿMôús  Dîššíd3nt 05:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terrorism

message: I have added another section called "prior conflicts", to address concerns about Point of View. It attempts to give an idea of POV in the most encyclopedic way that I could, but I think it could still be made more proffessional perhaps. Is there anything more to add on that topic?
:Ok, I think context is probably a better name. But are you sure of the location of the paragraph? And does anyone think another paragraph, or sub paragraph, might be possible, just to add to the completeness of the article, about other bombings of Germany (and possibly, if someone thinks its a good idea, the Allies), and how they compare or relate to the bombing of Heilbronn? 
Also, if anyone knows of any more sources of information, just so we can make this article better, please let me know, and I'd be happy to drain the source of all its info. 
Cheers, ♣ ÅñôñÿMôús  Dîššíd3nt 09:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prior Conflicts 

message: I'm failing this article, though it's not that far from being able to be re-submitted. Some initial observations:
# The opening doesn't seem to comply with WP:LEAD. Try to have a more complete summary of the article, in multiple paragraphs.
# No inline citations
# Article has a heavy POV problem. I don't see (at least not on a quick read through) any indication WHY the British and the Americans were bombing the city.
# There are many single-sentence paragraphs which can be merged into surrounding text. Makes the reading very choppy.
# The "Present Day" section should perhaps be cut down, with parts moved to Heilbronn's article. They don't reflect the main point of the article, though information about memorials and such related to the bombings should stay.
Good luck! JRP 00:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: Why do you have to have a 'context' paragraph for this description at all?  And if you feel you must, it needs editing even if it is off a PC German site.  Great Britain and the Commonwealth, and France declared war on Germany in 1939 over Poland, but perhaps they should not have been so eager to strip the former German and Austro-Hungarian territories of their eastern lands in 1919, renamed e.g., "Poland." And am not comfortable with 'unprovoked." After Great Britain declared war, blockaded seaways and entries to German ports, sent an invasion force to Norway and the BEF to Belgium, German short-term bombing of the ports of Rotterdam and London made some strategic sense. And Poland had an Armed Forces and were fighting the Germans (and the Soviets). And as I understand it, the first German bomb on Britain was and is still held to have been in error, and angered Hitler, who didn't want war with GB. But then GB started bombing Germany.  Where or why Heilbronn got targeted that close to the end of the war is usually ascribed to the US turning out bomber aircraft in huge numbers (and at great profit), with the British likewise producing bombs in huge surpluses, and both used both because they had too many.  Oil fields, ports, etc. there may be an argument for, but terror bombing of civilians, and that is precisely what it was, was madness.  And as previously discussed, why Heilbronn at all? – — …  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.81.73.21 (talk) 22:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Short term bombing? London was bombed on 57 consecutive nights from September 7, 1940. The "Blitz" lasted until May 1941. Bighammerfan (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  context