Talk:Yellow jersey statistics

message: I like the idea, but only the non-bold names of people still alive are in italics. Last time I check Lance Armstrong was still alive. I'll go through and italicize all the still alive winners if I get a chance, but I thought I'd point it out in case anyone wants to do it before I get around to it. GoodnightmushTalk 12:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but I don't understand you... The article says the italic names are persons still active, not still alive. And Lance Armstrong is no longer active, last time I checked. Go ahead and italicize all the still active winners if you'd like to, but you will see that I already did that.--Pie.er 13:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops...just ignore everything I said. I was confused. GoodnightmushTalk 19:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persons in ''italics'' are still alive? 

message: :I was creating the article of Guido Bontempi and I found out that he won the prologue of 1988 Tour de France, so he most likely wore the maillot jaune in the first stage. I could change the article but I don't know if the Per country section already counts that yellow jersey. Do you know any other cyclists missing?Drunt 12:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Tour de France site, , Bontempi won no stage in 1988. According to this page, the prologue of 1988 was won by Steve Bauer, who is on this list. Can you specify where you found that Bontempi won 1988's prologue? --Pie.er 16:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting this one: On the ASO page for the 1988 Tour (), there is the comment "organizers experiment with a Preface instead of a Prologue(it only lasts one year)". This isn't reflected in the second link above... I wonder what it was and how this fits... SeveroTC 17:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Hmm, I was not aware of that prelude. Interesting situation. How to deal with this? I think it is not "fair" to include it, because only 22 cyclists had a change to win this yellow jersey. On the other hand, I am not here to judge the TdF rules, so if they gave a jersey, it should be included. I am now thinking of including it with a remark, but I will wait some time to see if somebody else can think of a bit more elegant solution. --Pie.er 07:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's probably the best way to go. SeveroTC 17:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guido Bontempi

message: It seems to me that this site and the "yellow jersey" site are about the same thing and that much of the detail could be merged. At the least, I'd suggest a cross-reference. What do you think? Les woodland (talk) 17:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At first I didn't understand what you mean, but I see that lots of information has been added to the Yellow jersey-article since I last looked there. Still, this article is more "table"-based, while the yellow jersey-article is more "story"-based, if you know what I mean. A merge could work, but it would take some time to do it I guess. Time that I don't want to spend ;) If you want to try it, go ahead. The cross-reference I don't think I understand, you mean that the pages should be linked to each other? That they already are... --Pie.er (talk) 08:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A merge wouldn't work, the article would be too long. It's a nice split of information as it is. SeveroTC 12:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's nice that there is a split, but I think some of the information on Yellow jersey better fits here... Or not?--Pie.er (talk) 16:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I've always seen this article as a list article, so better off without stories. We could perhaps work towards getting this to be a featured list? SeveroTC 16:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, this is a list article. But from the Yellow jersey-article, the sections "Three riders in yellow" and "No riders in yellow" are almost lists. I try to reduce my wikipedia-time, so I have to decline the offer to work together to make this list featured. Although occasionally I will do something to help the article ;) --Pie.er (talk) 18:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes perhaps they could be added to this article as well (although as lists?). I don't have so much Wikipedia time either so we'll leave that idea for now! SeveroTC 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Doubling up of sites

message: The page on Jan Janssen says "He won seven stages and wore the yellow jersey for three days." This page says "Three cyclists (Jean Robic in 1947, Charly Gaul in 1958 and Jan Janssen in 1968) have won the Tour de France with only two yellow jerseys in their career." So, which is correct? Did Janssen wear two yellow jerseys, or three? --David Edgar (talk) 10:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Janssen's wikipage is incorrect. See for example here: Janssen lead the general classification in 1966 after stage 16, and in 1968 after 22B. Other sources (, ) say the same. Thanks for spotting this, I will change Janssen's page. --EdgeNavidad (talk) 06:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jan Janssen 

message: please change the colors of desmet and cancellara  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santheman (talk • contribs) 02:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Desmet is not active and Fabian Cancellara is active please fix the page to show that 

message: Louis Trousselier had 10 yellow jersey, not 12, in particular he did not have any yellow jersey in the 1906 Tour de France. It is possible there are more mistakes like this on this page? 160.79.125.18 (talk) 13:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louis Trousselier 

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message: In 2005 3 different riders wore the yellow jersey: David Zabriskie, Lance Armstrong and Jens Voigt. They first two were excluded later (because of doping use), but none the less they wore the jersey during the race. So it is wrong stating that only one rider wore tha yellow jersey that year.
I have not checked the other years. for similar errors. 80.208.69.115 (talk) 15:57, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: When riders are excluded from race results, they are excluded from the statistics as well. For example, you'll see that Lance Armstrong is nowhere in this article at all. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 02:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, but it is wrong to say that only one person wore the yellow jersey in 2005. Three persons wore it although two of them were later disqualified. It is way better to write the real numbers and then mention the disqualification. 80.208.69.115 (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No it is not. The UCI stripped all Armstrong results from 1998 onwards including wearing the yellow jersey. CyclingWeekly covers this in a recent article. Leaves the offical numbers without recognition of cheaters and then add notes of what it originally was. Paulpat99 (talk) 07:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but to be honest the IP contributor has a point that the current info is misleading as well. Yes, the results of Zabriskie and Armstrong are voided, but no there was not just one yellow jersey holder in the 2005 Tour de France... Pelotastalk|contribs 16:51, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you  for addressing this, and I do agree with your thought that individually addressing this with notes per year may be a bit too much. Could we perhaps condense all of the Armstrong notes into a single note like "All yellow jersey results of Lance Armstrong annulled, resulting in showing fewer riders in yellow for those years" or something? Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:25, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in "Number of wearers per year"