Talk:List of Spanish words of Basque origin

message: *These words are grouped by the source language, even though many of
them entered Spanish from an intermediary (example: albergue is
ultimately from Germanic, but entered Spanish by way of [[Provençal
language|Old Provencal]]).  Names of ancient tribes, names of
languages, and words denoting a person's ethnic group or
nationality are included.  Words not included, among others, are
personal names, place names, names of mountains, rivers,
cities, etc. as the list would become too expansive and there
are other lists which can cover these lexical items.  Many of these
words have related forms (estampar and estampada) which are not
included here unless, for various reasons, their relationship to each
other is not obvious.  Many of these words also contain Latinate
affixes (example: in "alcantarilla," -illa is a [[dimunutive
suffix]]) and components but have at least one component from another
language (example: béisbol).  Latin contained many words of [[Ancient
Greek]] by the the time the Romans became involved in
Iberia and those words are not included here except when 1. they were
introduced to Spanish through a language other than Latin (example:
albaricoque is from Ancient Greek but enter Spansih through Arabic) or
2. the word is attested in Greek, but is thought to stem from some
other language (example: celta).  Words which derived from attested
Latin words are only included when 1. The Latin word is known to
derive from another language except Ancient Greek (example: barca) 2.
The Latin word is thought to have dervied from another language
(example: batir).  The Greek and Latin words will be grouped under
"uncertain derivation."   Some of the words grouped under "uncertain
derivation" are documented, but are examples of
onomatopoeic creations which can't be definitively
attributed to a particular region or timeframe.--Hraefen 15:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion criteria etc.

message: *There are often competing theories for word origins.  If you know of
a competing theory, feel free to add information about this alternate
theory after the word and add your reference to the list of
references, but do not remove this word from this list because it is
sourced.  Rather, follow the procedure stated above, and then add the
word to "List of Spanish words of X origin." (along with
reference)--Hraefen 15:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Other theories

message: *Definitions are currently not given, but they will be. Some of these
words may need to be subdivided into languages within a language
family.  I will be doing both of these tasks as soon as I can get to
it.--Hraefen 15:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Defintions, subdivision, etc.

message: *Surely conejo comes from latin cuniculus? (usgned comment by 212.201.79.65 Jul 1, 2006)
*Cuniculus would be the diminutive of Latin cunus "wedge," right?  I don't see how that would come to mean "rabbit," but weirder things have happened.  I'll look in the "Breve diccionario" and get back to ya.--Hraefen 23:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A more modern (and more credible) hypothesis suggest that "cuniculus" is a Celtic (Iberian Celtic) word, from cun "dog", meaning "little dog" (see Ballester and Quinn CUNICULUS ‘RABBIT’ — A CELTIC ETYMOLOGY  with parallels for the meaning. Dumu Eduba (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  conejo 

message: Should surnames be erased from the list? Bolivar, Garcia, and Jimenez are surnames. --Chokolandivar 06:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right, feel free to remove them, as they are not actually words. Mariano(t/c) 10:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surnames 

message: * on 'vega'; 'ibaiko' is an invented non existent Basque word (see Trask  The histoy of Basque" 420). Of course river in Basque is "ibai" not **"bai".
* 'zarza' I could not corroborate Basque form sartzia (?) according to Trak the comparison is with sasi' from early Basque Çarzi" (=zarzi).
Dumu Eduba (talk) 16:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Note on revisanda terms: "cachorro" (DRAE <catulus but very odd evolution); "chiquito" (DRAE <"chico" < lat. ciccum but Basque "txiki"); "garrapata" (DRAE <"caparra" < lat. *crabrus, looks odd).Dumu Eduba (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some notes to changes 

message: I see in the list the words "vasco" and "vizcaíno", and I beleive they should be deleted.
There are many pre-roman demonyms, but their place should be in toponimy (so demonyms as "Ibérico", "gallego", "cántabro", "cordobés", etc. has the same rights to be included, but do not sem a good idea). Even there is a pre-roman demonym which is a despective adjective "capetovetónico", which perhaps should be included.
Even if the idea is to include only the Basque demonyms (also a dubious idea), then there is no place for "vasco" as it is not a Basque word, but an exonym.
Dumu Eduba (talk) 14:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete the demonyms? 

message: I am adding material from this (good)  source, after checking data in more orthodox sources. Dumu Eduba (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source 

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message: farra "loud party" (also Catalan parranda) (cf. Basque farra, farre ~ parra, parre "laugh") (BDELC). 
"Uncertain, possibly from Portuguese farra (“party”), which could ultimately be from dialectal Arabic فَرْحَة‎ (farḥa, “joy", dialectally "party”)."
Portuguese farra: "Uncertain origin. Possible origins include:
from dialectal Arabic فَرْحَة‎ (farḥa);
from Latin pānis farreus (“spelt bread”); 
from fanfarra (“fanfare”). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/farra --Manfariel (talk) 02:30, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  farra