Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day/discussion archive 01

message: Some general suggestions: don't forget newbies too. Don't post only something that is gonna be used by an experienced WPedian. Having said that, you could post about subst, class=wikitable, class="hiddenStructure". Renata 04:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't forget the newbs!

message: :Oh, and it would be really cool to have a topic for the week. For example, one week the tips would be all related to searching, another to navigation, third to templates, fourth to images and so on. Renata 02:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a great idea.  Once we build up enough tips, we could certainly do that.  --Go for it! 01:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weekly themes?

message: Can we have something to click on to add new tip entries? Rather than having to carefully format stuff and copy previous entries? Carcharoth 10:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find any documentation on how to do that.  If you can, please point us to it.  --Go for it! 01:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you could put entries on a different subpage, and then use something like this, but as this page is at the moment, it's impossible. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 17:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could built a parameterized template that took a header, body, and read more link, then doing a subst: on it would give you your text. - Ravedave 03:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And done : User:Ravedave/TOTD_param Example use:  
 
*You could use a similar method to that of WP:AFC. - Mgm|(talk) 11:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Auto-entry of tips 

message: :You may be doing this already, but have you considered creating a corpus of say, 100 "tips" which can then be selected from on a rotation basis, to avoid this project running out of tips again? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Building a corpus of tips

message: Should I put a tip at the Wikipedia Signpost that the project is looking for tips?  
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replies: text: I've decided to put a short tip, and see what they think... Smurrayinchester 17:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Will cover this week in News and Notes.  Ral315 (talk) 02:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertising this project

message: Another "by the way": what are your favorite tricks and techniques?  --Go for it! 16:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Let's focus on writing tips!

message: I found this image on commons, which by the sounds of the image description, was created for the original Tip of the day scheme. Could this be used, or at least replace the smiley in the userbox? smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 19:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather than replace the smiley, there's no reason why we can't have more than one userbox for this project.  ;-)  --Go for it! 02:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

text: By the way, that image is on the template (not the placeholder version) - see my last couple of entries in the template history.  What I'd really love to see is a light bulb that is lit and glowing brightly.  The current lightbulb is unlit, like it just came out of the package.  We could either find another lightbulb, or recolor this one.  Shiny!  --Go for it! 03:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've come up with a simple recolour, although it could always be better. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 07:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Let there be light!  (Lightbulb pic and userbox issue)

message: Thanks for pointing out the problem with headings in tables.  Could you point me to a specific example, so I can study the problem?  --Go for it! 02:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here  for what was changed. The double equals sign doesn't work inside of a table. -Ravedave 05:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template heading issue

message: Should we recycle old tips from Wikipedia:Tip_of_the_day/2004_archive? Several hundred thousand users have been added since they were last displayed. I think we should cull out and update good ones. -Ravedave 23:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Old tips

message: Okay, the subpage for recycling the 2004 archive is set up: Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day/Recycle these.  I've already removed the couple or so I rewrote, and some of those on the list have been edited-in-place a bit already.  Instructions are at the top of the subpage. --Go for it! 02:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recycle list

message: :A better version of this one exists further up the page at #Tip of the day: Advanced searching. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 20:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When you are in google, working on non-wikipedia stuff, and then you all of a sudden want to do a Wikpedia search, the WP-specific search button on the toolbar comes in quite handy. --Go for it! 02:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WP-Specific search box

message: Large tips defeat the purpose of this project.  If the tip is too large (or too many tips are crammed into one), it might as well become a page, or a section thereof, and then a link can be provided to it. Or we can get more mileage out of it by breaking it up into multiple tips!  --Go for it! 02:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Multi-tips need to be broken up into individual tips

message: We need a little mascot, like a lightbulb with a (smiley) face on it, to place in Tip of the day related message traffic, etc. (Like when we ask the Help Desk for tips).  And perhaps to insert in the tips themselves, for emphasis.  It would give this project a stronger identity.  --Go for it! 08:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Emoticons or mascot icons

message: Do we really want to encourage people to be creating more Userboxes?  User:Zoe|(talk) 19:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Userboxes

message: I made this in Photoshop, I've still got the original file, so any suggestions such as gradients would be helpful. Or, edit it yourself! --Keycard (talk) 08:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made it transparent using GIMP. Looks good! (Note: It's a PNG, so it won't appear transparent on Internet Explorer, but should on all other browsers)smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 21:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New lightbulb

message: The reason I say it's unsuitable isn't anything about userboxes in general, just that they shouldn't be a tip of the day.  This should be saved for important things regarding wikiformatting and such, not something like userboxes.  Ral315 (talk) 02:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the other hand, users use userboxes.  Any time we can save them in their learning how to use them is time which they can spend on other aspects of their Wikipedia involvement.  I wish I had a tip like this when I was adding userboxes to my user page, it would have cut my install time in half, because I didn't even know what the heck they were called, and so couldn't find the list of ready-made ones.  I finally found out when I came across that userbox that "leaps off the screen" at you, because it was self-referential.  --Go for it! 03:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userboxes 

message: *Often I come across Help desk or Ref desk questions where people forget to mention the basic facts needed to answer a question (like the country they are referring to), and I would like to see a tip that helps people to ask smart questions making it easier to answer quickly instead of asking follow-up questions to get a useful question. - Mgm|(talk) 11:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two tips coming up. Thanks for the ideas.  If you have any more, don't hesitate to drop by and let us know. --Go for it! 16:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, they're done.  See the new tips section above. --Go for it! 04:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How to ask a smart question

message: I've rounded the corners of  and changed the border colour. What d'ya think? Computerjoe 20:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Few More Changes to Template 

message: I'm assuming that the capitalization scheme for tip titles (what follows Tip of the day:) is the same as WP's for article titles, lowercase second and subsequent words?  Most of them follow that already, but I just changed a few. ×Meegs 07:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: We need someone to be this project's recruiter.  You'll get to seek out Wikipedia's most knowledgeable experts, and invite them to contribute their best tricks and techniques to this project.  Please drop me a note on my talk page, and I'll get you up to speed.  --Go for it! 04:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be willing to create a template and put it on a lot of users talk pages, but I have two cocnerns: 1. Is that spamming? 2. Can a bot do it more easily? Otherwise, I'd sign up to do it. Please respond to my talk page. Thanks, -Reuvenk[T][C] 19:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recruiter needed

message: Are the tips above open for editing or are they considered stable?  --hydnjo talk 04:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those towards the top are more stable than the ones on the bottom. If you find something inaccurate or confusing, go ahead and edit them, sure.--HereToHelp (talk • contribs) 04:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, then I have a question about about the Search box focus tip. On Mac OSX,  Alt F drops in a "Find Text" box and the Tab key puts the cursor into the search box. Does the Tab key do that on Windows systems?  --hydnjo talk 04:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All the tips, even those on the project page, are subject to correction and improvement, even when they are being displayed.  Feel free to improve these tips!  Please keep in mind that we try to keep them as concise as possible.  Good point on the search-box focus, the tip was for Windows-users only (and needs the Mac info).  Good catch!  The tab on Windows systems goes to the first link in the chain of links, starting with the first link on the page itself, then moving through the tabs at the top of the page, then top menu, then the sidebar.  If you are in the editor, the tab goes to the edit summary box.  --Go for it! 08:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure if if this is what you mean, but in a web browser, pressing tab cycles you through the text fields in the current window. ×Meegs 08:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tips on this talk page

message: On a Mac, when in the editor, what key jumps you to the edit summary box?  --Go for it! 08:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if if this is what you mean, but in a web browser, pressing tab cycles you through the text fields in the current window. ×Meegs 08:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mac question

message: The original tip of the day project had about 85 tips.  At our current rate, we'll pass that in a few more days.  (We're up to 69 already).  --Go for it! 13:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: We've almost surpassed the old project already

message: I've been using the word "transclusion" incorrectly.  It is a synonym for substitution - (like this:)  - but I've been using it as "inclusion" which means  inserting a template on a page like this: .  Transclusion actually copies the source text of the template to the current page.  I've fixed most of these word choice errors in the tips, but keep a lookout for them just in case I missed any.  --Go for it! 13:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Word choice error

message: An opening identifier will be included on the template(s), but having "Tip of the day:" in the title, just obscures the name of the tip.  So I've removed them.  --Go for it! 14:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Tip of the day:" removed from tip titles

message: What is meant by the memo on the main page. Do you mean that the tip needs rewriting and expanding, or do you mean that you want it writing over? smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 18:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memo 

message: "you could link it like so: puddles."  Should that read puddle ? Dlyons493 Talk 15:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because it is refering to making a link to puddle like so: puddles. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 10:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time saving links II 

message: This is the number one way to fix really stupid errors, like forgetting to fix the size for a picture or misspelling a common word. Hurricanehink 02:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Preview Button is your Friend 

message: I added the following line;
Prior tip - Next tip
between the 'noinclude' tags on the April 20, April 21, and April 22 tip pages. This adds 'Prior day' and 'Next day' links which are only displayed when the page is viewed directly (not when it is transcluded) that will allow you to browse forward or backward through the list.
Extend to other pages, remove, and/or adjust as desired. I only put it on the three pages so people can see how it works and decide whether to incorporate it or not. --CBDunkerson 01:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Browsing Feature 

message: I have resized the TOTD box to allow it to fit better on Help:Contents, as well as some code cleanup.  --Aude (talk | contribs) 19:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Recent changes to this template have affected the way the box is displayed on my talk page. It is now merging itself to the table of contents box. I have no idea what's happening or how to fix it. Could someone please check? - Ganeshk (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should be fixed now. --Aude (talk | contribs) 20:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! - Ganeshk (talk) 20:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOTD box size