Talk:Kiliaen van Rensselaer (merchant)

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::Page moved. Eugene van der Pijll 18:21, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: Being the notes say there is a discrepancy in the dates it only makes sense to be up front about it. An encyclopaedia should be factual - fact is- there is a discrepancy. throughout the article, other than the intro, he only needs to die one time. Sorry I am a bit upset after relying on dates as if they were concrete. A person should not have to metaphorically read a whole phone-book to get a number out of it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JGVR (talk • contribs) 06:11, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixed dates

message: For all those interested, I have copied over a rewrite from my userspace to replace the version previously listed. Any issues, please comment here and let me know on my talk page. Much of the new article is sourced from the Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts, the best source available about Kiliaen, his children, and the founding of Rensselaerswyck. Much of the content of this source is primary and later translated by the publisher of the work. upstateNYerformerly wadester16 21:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite is now live 

message: Did some research on the clarification tags:
#Spelling of Hillegonda: updated to note another spelling and ref switched.
#Niece of his uncle: Based on this, Anna van Wely was daughter of Johannes Van Wely and Eleanor Haeckens. Based on that, Johannes Van Wely must be the brother of Jan Van Wely. I don't have a source that explicitly connects the Van Wely's and Van Rensselaer's, but I'm thinking that the closest that Wolfert can be is Kiliaen's mother's sister's husband. Anna would be the separated by marraige: Kiliaen → Maria Pafreat (Kiliaen's mother) → Maria's sister → Jan Van Wely (married to Maria's sister) → Johannes Van Wely (brother of Jan) → Anna van Wely (dauther of Johannes). What would this be? Second cousin by marriage? It's not really close. Can you think of another connection other than this? Can add note to this if you think it's prudent. upstateNYer 23:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking that if we can't prove a connection between van Rensselaer and van Biljer, we should probably remove the niece/uncle wording altogether.  I'm also wondering if Jan is just a shortening of Johannes and they're actually the same person, but that's just speculation.  For now, I'll change it to just mention the names, much like the link you mentioned above, and if further info is found, it can always be put back in. —RobinHood70 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification tags 

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