Talk:Travelers' diarrhea

message: It has been made clear it is plagiarism, thus it should be rewritten. It's been enough time!Thank you!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.14.79 (talk) 07:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Revision history documents that the article has been substantially rewritten since the above was posted.  Since it is now clearly different from the CDC page it was accused of plagiarizing, I am removing the "rewrite" tag. DoctorJoeE (talk) 14:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please rewrite the article 

message: I found this article that seems to be identical to another, aside from some minor changes, which implies that the following page has been plagarised.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/travelersdiarrhea_g.htm
Bok269 23:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read the references that states explicitly "This article contains material from the CDC (Center for Disease Control) website which, as a US government publication, is in the public domain." In other words copying from the source quoted is legally allowed by the US government. Thanks. Idleguy 02:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Plagarism 

message: The water purification methods reported in this article may not offer a 100% solution, as stated here: Portable_water_purification. Pepve 08:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water purification 

message: The symtoms section on Montezuma's Revenge (medicine) more properly belongs here.  In fact, much of that article belongs here, perhaps with section here about the term Montezuma's revenge and a redirect. --Una Smith (talk) 04:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Montezuma's Revenge (now merged into TD)

message: Review on the prevention of TD, including mention of the newish nonabsorbable antibiotic rifaximin. JFW | T@lk 13:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prevention 

message: A merge has been proposed with Gastroenteritis;  I suggest instead merge Traveler's diarrhea with Diarrhea.  It is often not gastroenteritis but enteritis. --Una Smith (talk) 14:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[Gastroenteritis]]

message: I note Calamitybrook, without discussion, renamed this from "Traveler's diarrhea" (342 PubMed hist, 147,000 Google) to "Travelers' diarrhea" (302 PubMed hits, 139,000 Google). I see no justification in this, see Wikipedia:Naming Conventions#Prefer singular nouns, and diseases are generally named for how it affects an individual (hence "myocardial infarction" not "myocardial infarctions"), specialist and general usuage favours possesive singular. I have therefore reverted back - re-move should only be with a consensus. David Ruben  Talk  00:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I agree and appologize.
Calamitybrook (talk) 19:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming move

message: There was, when I was a child, and very well might still be an excellent roller coaster at Knott's Berry Farm amusement park.  It consisted simply of a sloping fall into a loop to a sloping rise, whereupon the cars stopped at the top and then went down the slope backwards.  Rinse and Repeat.
I'm wondering if this is worthy of a disambiguation page.
Oh.  I see using Google, that there is a disambiguation page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montezuma%27s_Revenge_(disambiguation) from which I find a link to the ride: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montezooma%27s_Revenge (notice the pun :)  )
Is it not inappropriate that entering "Montezuma's Revenge" automatically directs the visitor to this topic with no link or indication given of a a disambiguation page?
Thanks
--128.206.170.57 (talk) 18:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Montezuma's Revenge Ride. 

message: The anon seems to be having some difficulties with the citations.  S/he cites this paper:  http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?request=get-abstract&issn=0953-9859&volume=003&issue=03&page=0241
If you click that link, you'll see that it takes you to a page that says:  Journal of Wilderness Medicine: Vol. 3, No. 3, pp. 241–249.
Epidemiology of wildernessacquired diarrhea: implications for prevention and treatment [by] STEVEN C. ZELL, MD, FACP
Remarkably, that's exactly the same paper that was already cited:   -- exactly the same, except that the pdf linked in the proper citation takes you to the entire paper (free), instead of just the abstract.
If anyone is able to find any difference between Steve Zell's 1992 paper "Epidemiology of wilderness-acquired diarrhea: implications for prevention and treatment" and Steve Zell's 1992 paper "Epidemiology of wilderness-acquired diarrhea: implications for prevention and treatment", then do please explain the difference here, rather than continuing the edit war.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing Zell's paper 

message: :It appears the article wilderness acquired diarrhea has been edited by 42 people over a three-year period. Yet WhatamIdoing and perhaps, one or two others, believe they have uniquely determined that it is not properly a separate topic for Wikipedia, and will be merged. 
:WhatamIdoing has very clearly asserted that she has in some key way, helped to establish current Wikipedia medical publishing standards. This may indeed be a laudable achievement. Yet the merger proposal suggests a peculiar editing standard.
WhatamIdoing asserts that because WAD is potentially a form of a water borne disease, it is the same as TD.  But no credible volume of countervailing material is offered to counterbalance the rather vast number of citations and the evidently prevailing societal view that WAD is an essentially separate syndrome from traveler's diarrhea.
:Calamitybrook (talk) 06:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 42 Editors and 3 Years: Now 2-3 Editors Seek Merge 

message: :The third sentence of this article says that wilderness-acquired diarrhea is another name for travler's diarrhea and cites a single sentence from research by Steven Zell: "Wilderness medicine...has yet to thoroughly address the issue of wilderness acquired diarrhea as has been done for traveler's diarrhea."
:This isn't a relevant citation.
Calamitybrook (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WAD Citation

message: I would just like to "refudiate" the idea of a merger.  As long as there are links one need not get all "wee-wee-ed" up about mergers.  As a casual reader, I know how to click a well stated link to sate my curiosity. Clear links are more important than mergers or non-mergers.  Links - a great idea that gives unlimited utility to the web and power to the reader. Embrace them. Now go out and actually write more articles.
Anonymous non-editor and neologism supporter.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.63.134 (talk) 02:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mergers?  Schmergers! 

message: I am trying (so far unsuccessfully) to find some sort of objective documentation of the efficacy of this product.  The two cited references are both from the manufacturer's Web site, which is clearly unacceptable.  I will continue looking for valid references to replace the invalid ones, but unless there is some independent data, I think the entire paragraph should be removed, because as it stands it's just an advertisement for the product. Cheers, DoctorJoeE (talk) 21:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Travelan 

message: Is it asbsolutely necessary to spend an entire paragraphs on colloquialisms? This is not the urban dictionary. The McShits and the Hersheys etc. are all listed oin the Urban Dictionary, and probably not necessary here. Adacus12 (talk) 12:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an old but entirely valid point.  Fairly recently, someone has added still more trivia to this section, and absolutely none of it is sourced.  The above editor is correct -- we're not the Urban Dictionary, which is a more appropriate place for this stuff.  Unless good sourcing can be added, I would support removing it. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 06:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coloqs 

message: What do the percentages in the table represent? This is completely meaningless. —Michael Z. 2012-10-24 03:30 z
:It's explained (sort of) in the text.  The percentages represent the estimated percentage of total TD cases that are caused by that particular microorganism.  Ranges represent the facts that (1) different studies cited in the source material contain different estimates, and (2) causative organisms vary by country, and by region within countries.  The text could probably make this clearer; I will work on it as time and spouse permit. DoctorJoeE talk to me! 12:48, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Traveler%27s_diarrhea#Causes]] 

message: Did one of you ever try to wash the fruits with a biological surfactant like Polysorbate? (Instead of peeling the fruits) That probably should work, shouldn't it? Btw eating some polysorbate isn't a problem at all. I'm convinced that washing the fruits with this substance could easily solve any hygienic food problem. --178.197.228.24 (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Putting my physician hat on for the nonce, washing and/or peeling fruits and other foods is always the best option, because you are physically removing pathogens from the food.  Polysorbate has some antibacterial activity, but there is no credible data regarding its effectiveness against viruses and protozoa, and I personally wouldn't trust it unless no other options were available.  I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a substitute for washing or peeling.  DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 13:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Washing fruits and legumes with surfactant? 

message: doi:10.1001/jama.2014.17006 JFW | T@lk 23:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  JAMA review 

message: This ref is broken "" but redirects to here http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/travelers-diarrhea. This spot however does not state it is a "is a stomach and intestinal infections" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:19, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref

message: Moving here per PRESERVE - these should not be moved back to the article until they are sourced, reliably:
A number of colloquialisms are used for travelers' diarrhea contracted in various localities, such as "Montezuma's revenge", "turistas", or "Aztec two step" for travelers' diarrhea contracted in Mexico, "Pharaoh's revenge", "mummy's tummy," or "Cairo two-step" in Egypt, "Kurtz Hurtz" in Uzbekistan, "Bombay belly" or "Delhi belly" in India (the latter after which Aamir Khan titled his 2011 Hindi film, Delhi Belly), "Back Door Trots",  "a case of the shits", "Hershey squirts", or "the McShits" in North America, "King George's revenge" in the United States,  "down under butt chunder" in Australia, "Karachi crouch" in Pakistan, "Suryavarman's revenge" in Cambodia, "kabulitis" in Afghanistan, "Thriller in Manila" in the Philippines, "holiday tummy" in United Kingdom, although this is not directed at tourists in the UK but at British tourists abroad, "Bali belly" in Bali, or "Taghazout tummy" in Taghazout or "Kathmandu quickstep" in Nepal. In China, diarrhea is referred to as 拉肚子 (, lit.: "pulled stomach").  A recent local term in Pattaya, Thailand, is "Thai-dal wave". Peacekeepers to Arabic-speaking countries have called it "yalla yalla" (Arabic for "fast, fast") referring to the extreme urgency it causes.  This one is similar to "corre corre" meaning "run run" used in some regions of Colombia. In the Western Hemisphere, "burrito bowels" and "Vindaloo mudslide" are frequently used euphemisms for the condition. Many other colorful synonyms exist in other regions of the world, some of which have found their way into the arts and literature.
-- Jytdog (talk) 19:17, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Almost all unsourced 

message: The section titled Antimotility agents observes that Antimotility agents should not, as a rule, be taken for protracted periods which is vague in a way, because it doesn't mention why that is. To my knowledge, long term loperamide use limited to therapeutic doses has no significant side-effect. It might so be that prolonged use of antimotility agents in general should be avoided, but I have been unable to find a suitable medical source for that advice. If anyone can add a medical citation, it would be helpful. Knaveknight (talk) 16:24, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suitability of prolonged use of antimotility agents 

message: Hi there.
Just found that in Cyclospora cayetanensis article mentions its protozoa as cause factor of traveler's diarrhea.
May be it is worth to mention that.
109.206.156.72 (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I added some information. Ruslik_Zero 20:25, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Спасибо! 109.206.156.72 (talk) 19:12, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyclospora cayetanensis as infectious cause 

message: User:Oreo Priest Ref says 
:"Despite warnings regarding the safety of antidiarrhoeal agents with bloody diarrhoea or diarrhoea accompanied by fever, the combination with antibiotics is likely to be safe in the setting of mild febrile dysentery and a number of studies have shown the combination to be more efficacious than use of either agent alone.7,18–20 Rapid institution of effective treatment shortens symptoms to 30 hours or less in most people.12 For example, the duration of diarrhoea was significantly (P = 0.0002) shorter following treatment with azithromycin plus loperamide (11 h) than with azithromycin alone (34 h).19"
This is far from saying that it should not be used in blood diarrhea, just that antibiotics should be included. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Loperamide