Talk:T'Pol

message: The statement "Despite all this, some fans feel that T'Pol was the heart and soul of the series, and its single most interesting character." sound more like opinon than fact.
Dr Aaron 11:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This line dates back to when Enterprise was still on the air. It can probably be tweaked a bit now that the series is over. 23skidoo 17:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sounds POV without reference

message: Let's all use canon when it comes to exactly what happened. I recently read that Tucker and T'Pol had a relationship that people were gossiping about from "Home" onward. That's just not true. In United, Reed provides information to Tucker (and the engineer indicated he'd heard it for the first time) that T'Pol was again single. Thus no relationship, thus no gossip. Stick to the facts, please! Spock111 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.21.110.187 (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationships

message: Maybe it's just me but I find it intrusive when I am editing a page and someone else comes along and starts making edits before I'm done. SD6-Agent 01:54, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing etiquette

message: Someone has been editing the information with a bias and opinion. I'd recommend sticking as closely as possible to fact. It might assist with disagreements in interpretation.
: No bias here, simply a stating of on-screen facts, and or reasonable interpolation (although noted as speculation where applicable). Perhaps you could be more precise in what you feel is being edited with POV? Thanks! PS. Please sign your comments. 23skidoo 00:38, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, actually, I indicated that she grew closer to Tucker during the Xindi incident. I don't recall making any reference to them getting closer after "Home". And if you watch "Affliction", you will also see a mental bond has been created between them (which is apparently to be the subject of an upcoming episode). I'm going to put the comment back. 23skidoo 04:29, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Good headers. I made a change to one since it implied T'Pol wasn't a Vulcan previously. Otherwise, they work for me. 23skidoo 16:23, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: General edits

message: :Little is known of T'Pol's early years, save that she was born in the Earth year 2088. Approximately 16 years before joining the crew of Enterprise...
I assume "16" is wrong and not "2088".  I haven't seen enough of the show to know when she was born. Cburnett 05:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The episode "Zero Hour" which takes place in 2154 established her age as "going to turn 66 on her next birthday". So 2088 is calculated based on the assumption that she turned 66 in 2154, however it could be 2089 if her 65th birthday had just passed, so I adjusted the birth year reference accordingly. "The Seventh" established T'Pol's intelligence activities as taking place 16 years prior to that episode. 23skidoo 15:22, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: So she's 66 not 16 then. Cburnett 19:17, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we have our wires crossed. What I had written is that 16 years BEFORE the events of Enterprise she was a member of the Intelligence service. That had nothing to do with her age (65 going on 66) at the time of Zero Hour. It basically means she was a secret agent for the VHC when she was in her late 30s/early 40s. 23skidoo 19:58, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Bah, the only wires that are crossed are in my brain.  I don't know why, but I was "reading" 16 to be her age.  I added it elsewhere.  Please do a sanity check for me. :) Cburnett 20:40, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All present and correct. I've had days like that too! ;-) 23skidoo 21:15, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: Should we include information about how there was a Vulcan named T'Pol in an episode of The Next Generation? The episode was called Gambit. It just seemed to me like the writers didn't pay attention to established canon before they named their characters and wrote the episodes...67.142.130.33 20:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TNG? 

message: Canon itself is defined as anything viewed on television. Thus, canon can't be debated. Instead, it's more accurate to indicate that groups of fans wish to de-canonize the episode.
* Please sign your comments. Which episode are you referring to? 23skidoo 23:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canon 

message: Whoa! Much as I like seeing a big picture of T'Pol, the infobox image is simply too big. I tried shrinking it down to a more reasonable size but it didn't work because of the template. Anyone know how to shrink it down. From experience with other infoboxes, 200px is considered more a norm, yet this image is a too-big 300px. 23skidoo 04:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image size

message: The fair use police have struck again. I have deleted the two images I have uploaded to this article. Good luck trying to replace them. I will no longer contribute images to wikipedia. 23skidoo 19:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image deletion

message: Cool, now I don't have to watch any episodes since it looks like it is all transcribed here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.241.144 (talk) 00:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article length 

message: I changed the reason for their child not surviving. Initially, it was thought that incompatible DNA was the reason, but it was revealed later on to be a flaw in the cloning process.Jlujan69 (talk) 02:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  altered end of paragraph of T'Pol-Trip relationship 

message: In the original series it is asserted multiple times that Spock was the first Vulcan to serve in Starfleet.  Indeed, it was the reason for his original falling out with his father, Sarek.  When we first meet Sarek in TOS we are told this falling out happened 18 years prior.  As TOS begins roughly around 2265, this would put Spock's earliest date of service around 2247.
T'Pol could not possibly have served in Starfleet as far back as 2151 (as the article states) -- nearly 100 years earlier.  The earliest she could have served would be after 2247.  If, as the article states, she was born in 2088, even if she enlisted the year after Spock, that would make her close to 160 years old.  Possible, for a Vulcan, but that still would have put her well into Vulcan middle age, and hardly the youth she appears to be.
Something is screwy here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 00:30, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not an in-universe issue of dates, it is a out of universe matter of sloppy continuity and phrasing. Technically the character is not an official member of Starfleet. YMMV. -- 109.76.202.211 (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dating 

message: There was a Vulcan in Star Trek: The Next Generation called T'Paal. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/T%27Paal_(isolationist) 
Tallera aka T'Paal https://www.startrek.com/database_article/tallera
Someone misheard T'Paal as T'Pol and decided to add it to the article. I'm making a note here so that hopefully no one else will try and add it back to the article. -- 109.76.202.211 (talk) 02:07, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrelated character in TNG 

message: I've added a some criticism from Blalock about her character acting in un-Vulcan ways but reviewers were saying a lot of the same things. While editing other articles I found a particularly strong example of criticism from 
Michelle Erica Green reviewing Similitude said: 
Eventually season 4 did go some way to explaining why Vulcans in this era seemed so different from what viewers had come to expect (in short, the rediscovery of the teachings of Surak caused their society to undergo a massive Reformation) but the inconsistencies of T'Pol as a Vulcan was a recurring issue. If I find more insights like these from reviewers I'll add them here, maybe later they can be integrated into the article. -- 109.79.86.215 (talk) 19:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Starlog Interview with Blalock -- 109.77.200.34 (talk) 01:11, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Found a reviewer at IGN criticising the character T'Pol (but not the performance) as an obvious retread, pandering to fanboys, and that it "showed how craven the producers could be and how little they thought of the audience as being anything more than hormone-enthralled nerds." I will probably try to work it in to the Reception section sooner or later. -- 109.79.81.116 (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  The article for Seven of Nine also says that character of T'Pol was based on a combination of the Seven and Spock, referencing a book. If someone has access to  maybe they could check it and add something, but I don't have  access to that source. It would be good to get that fact firmly established as Production information if possible. -- 109.76.143.155 (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism