Talk:Belagavi border dispute/Archive 1

message: :::I'm adding some more valuable info for yuvamela section source-http://thatskannada.oneindia.in/news/2006/10/27/mes.html
Translation -
ಎಂ.ಈ.ಎಸ್. ಕಾರ್ಯಕರ್ತರು ಕನ್ನಡ ಫಲಕಗಳನ್ನು ತೆಗೆಯಲು ಮುಂಡದ ಕಾರಣ ಜಿಲ್ಲೆಯ ಖಾನಾಪುರ ಪಟ್ಟನದಲ್ಲಿ ಉದ್ರಿಕ್ತ ಸ್ಥಿತಿ ಶುಕ್ರವಾರ ನೆಲೆಸಿದೆ. 
MES activista have created a tense situation by trying to remove Kannada boards from shops in Khanapura of (Belagavi) district.
ಆ ಯುವಕರ ಗುಂಪು ಕಲ್ಲು ತೂರಾಟ ನಡೆಸಿದಾಗ, ಲಘು ಲಾತಿ ಪ್ರಾಹಾರ ಮತ್ತು ಆಶ್ರುವಾಯೂ ಶೇಲ್ ಸಿಡಿಸಿ ಪೊಲೀಸರು ಗುಂಪನ್ನು ಚದುರಿಸಿದರು.
When the mob pelted stones (at public), police had to disperse the mob with lati charge and shells.
ಈ ಸಂದರ್ಭದ ಗಲಬೆಯಲ್ಲಿ 50ಕ್ಕೂ ಅಧಿಕ ಮಂದಿ ಗಾಯಗೊಂಡಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಪೋಲಿಸ್ ಜೀಪು ಮತ್ತಿತರ ಹತ್ತರು ವಾಹನಗಳು ಜಖಂಗೋಂದಿವೆ.
More than 50 people are injured because of the violence. Number of vehicles including police jeeps are damaged.Gnanapiti 06:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kannada citations and Translations

message: Thanks a lot for ur additions.I am editing and removing POV. If u see the Marathi links I have used only significat part and avoided sundry summaries. If u want to start the war, of course, I will be happy to balance the article.Thanks. Mahawiki 08:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://pudhari.com/Archives/oct06/28/Link/stbelgaonA.htm
बेळगाव व खानापूर येथे आयोजित करण्यात आलेल्या महामेळाव्यास मराठी भाषिकांकडून मिळणार्या उत्सफ़ूर्त प्रतिसादामुळे कन्नडिगांचे पित्त खवळले.
Huge response to MES melavas at Belgaon and Khanapur has enraged and worried Kannadigas.
शहर म.ए.समितीचे कार्याध्यक्ष दीपक दळवी यांनी रात्री अटक केली.
Citya MES leader Deepak Dalvi was arrested yesterday night.
खानापूर येथे युवामेळाव्यावेळी पोलिसांनी केलेला अमानुष लाठीमार व अश्रुधुर याच्या पार्श्वभुमीवर बेळगाव पोलिसांनी मराठी भाषिक कार्यकर्ते हेरुन त्यांना अट्क करण्याचे सत्र आरंभिले आहे.
Police brutally beat up melava attendants and used tear gas and now they have started the mission of searching and arresting Marathi speakers 
१ नोव्हेंबरचा काळा दिन यशस्वी करण्याचा निर्धार म.ए.समितीने केला आहे.
MES has resolved to make 1 November Black day successful.
Mahawiki 10:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My translations are perfect. Even I have used only significant part and avoided sundry summaries. You can ask anyone who can read Kannada. I can't take your translations as example because I can't read and comprehend Marathi. By the way what do you mean by whether I want to start the war? When Marathi editors do something, it becomes an edition. When I do some important editions with valid citations, how on earth it becomes a war? Nobody wants to start a war here except your last post, because that's not the intentions. If you are so pulled towards a war, go ahead and fight. God knows with who.Gnanapiti 17:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi,please see my edits after ur Kannada citations.I tried to remove POV but ur friend Sarvagnya reverted it. I dont want any POV whethere Marathi or Kannada on this page. I am forced to add inflammatory words like u did in ur edits. The citations I provided contain ample of POV (just like urs which says MES people were throwing stones to provoke etc) and I could use them as well. Using the word 'allegedly' will be more appropriate instead of passing judgements here.I am making changes and removing both POVs,revert it to original if u disagree. Mahawiki 17:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kannada citations

message: I am sorry Gnanapiti,I have removed ur Kannada flag section,which is not totally insignificant to find a place here. Mahamelava attended by 50,000+ members, Yuvamelava attended by 40,000 members are different than a mob of 15-16 people hoising Kannada flag in a taluk panchayat office.This is what I call edit war!I can write such dozens of meets and occasions!I dont know what is ur motive behind this addition.I hope u will come with some serious and significant additions. Perhaps we should see a admin now!! Mahawiki 20:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mahawiki, please do not remove the information without having a consensus in discussion page, especially when the information is supported with the citation. I have just added back the information. Thanks. - KNM  Talk 20:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mahawiki, you can't decide the significance of an issue all by yourself. I consider this to be a major issue and that's why I added this in the article. Please refrain from removing the cited info which I edited with all the efforts.Gnanapiti 20:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: KNM, this additions are in bad-faith. There is certainly no problem adding pro-Karnataka stuff and to balance this article.What Gnanapeeti has added is just a revenge of my edits! the citations I provided earlier contains such incidents as well. You shouldnt add pro-Kannada stuff for the sake of it.Karnataka session and bundh have been taken into account.I hope Kannada editors will co-operate and add some significant stuff than this flag hoisting stuff!It certianly doesnt deserve to be a subsection. And about consensus i really wonder how it can be reached when there are few alleged sockpuppets in actions.I can add similar stuff in abundunce. Ball is in ur court!!Gnanapiti,I will wait for more 6 hours i hope u will contribute seriously with meaningful stuff,unless I will be forced to add such sundry pro-Maharashtra details too. Mahawiki 20:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mahawiki, I'm serious. Consider this as a warning. I'm going to report against you to mods if you keep calling me and other editors as sock puppets. You got to prove before you claim something. Who are you to decide whether the stuff added by me are meaningful or not? You don't own this article. If this is a minor issue, then it won't be reported in a major news portal like OneIndia which is not at all related to Karnataka. Gnanapiti 20:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: nanapiti, keep your warnings to yourself. There is a sockpuppetry case going on  against you and your comrades/socks. BTW, OneIndia is not a major portal. Anyway, we'll see what to do. AryaRajyaमहाराष्ट्र 04:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You talk as if you have filed a case against me in Supreme court of India. :) How long that case has been running? Lets see, 15 days now? And now, I have had enough. I'm reporting against you and Mahawiki to an admin.Gnanapiti 05:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Arya has not filed a case against u in Supreme court of India but Maharashtra govt has surely against Karnataka. So pushing ur POV and hiding facts here will not help Kannada stand! Anyways the new citation u have added needs to be corrected (as u have used 3 instances of it). I am sure u are quite experienced here so please reformat the source just like admin and i have done it. Mahawiki 05:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kannada flag hoisting! 

message: http://maharashtratimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1324999.cms
 महाराष्ट्र कर्नाटक सीमाप्रश्न सुटेपर्यंत वादग्रस्त सीमाभाग केंदशासित करावा , अशी मागणी राज्य सरकार सुप्रीम कोर्टात करणार असून तज्ज्ञसमितीच्या बैठकीत एकमताने हा निर्णय झाल्याची माहिती समितीचे अध्यक्ष एन. डी. पाटील यांनी दिली.
N.D Patil said that disputed border region should be brought under Centre's rule till the Maharashtra-Kanataka border dispute is solved.
कर्नाटक सरकार हा प्रश्न चिघळवण्याचा प्रयत्न करत आहे , असा आरोप पाटील यांनी केला.
Karnataka government is trying to intensify the problem alledged Patil.
बेळगाव महापालिकेची बेकायदा करण्यात आलेली बरखास्ती व बेळगावच्या महापौरांना झालेल्या मारहाणीच्या घटनांमुळे तेथील मराठी माणसांना तिथे सन्मानाने जगणे कठीण झाले आहे , असा दावा कोर्टात करण्यात येईल
The unconstitutional dissolution of Belgaum municipal corporation and manhandling of Belgaum mayor has made it difficult for Marathi people to live with dignity and honour.This claim would be made in court.
अंतिम निकाल येईपर्यंत सीमाभागातील मराठीजनांना सन्मानाने जगता यावे यासाठी सुप्रीम कोर्टाने बेळगावसह मराठीबहुल 865 गावे केंदशासित करण्याचा आदेश केंद सरकारला द्यावा
Until final verdict comes, Supreme court should bring 865 disputed Marathi-majority villages including Belgaon to centre rule sp as to help Marathi speakers to live with honour.
 बैठकीला पाटील यांच्यासह सचिव एस. ए. डोंड , महाराष्ट्र एकीकरण समितीचे अध्यक्ष वसंत पाटील आणि अॅड. वसंत भंडारी , अॅड. राजाभाऊ पाटील , अॅड. माधव चव्हाण हे उपस्थित होते.
Mahawiki 06:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This development was in 2005 and it's wrongly placed in the article under "2006 developments" section. You can make necessary changes to this part of the article. Otherwise I'll move this section to some other place.Gnanapiti 21:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maharashtra's demand to bring disputed region into centre rule