Talk:Investment in post-invasion Iraq

message: Let us all hope for a peaceful end, no matter when it does. someone not signed in.
*Here is a database containing reconstruction project information: http://80.122.170.82/ICMOP/
* IMO there is, or will be enough material in Reconstruction of Iraq and U.S.-led occupation of Iraq to justify separate pages, and surely there will be  more, as Iraq has barely begun the long trek toward reconstruction
Pedant 21:22, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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message: "The Proposed Baghdad Renaissance Plan" isn't a good caption. Captions should be complete sentences and say something descriptive and relevant (to the picture and its place in the article) could some knowedgeable good-captioner fix that please?  Thanks!! User:Pedant 20:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture:The Proposed Baghdad Renaissance Plan 

message: I think this article would benefit enormously from a longer, more comprehensive introduction that summarizes the main ideas in the article.  The content in "introduction" should really appear before the TOC, as per Wikipedia standards.  Does anyone object if I make that change? Thanks. --Mackabean 21:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better introduction 

message: I added International Compact with Iraq to the See Also... I don't know where else it might be integrated into the text. Please help! MPS 15:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a reference to the Compact and update the Compact article. Dpahlfeld (talk) 13:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: International Compact with Iraq

message: The picture next to the introduction strikes me as somewhat inappropriate given
that it is a 3d rendering of a not-yet-built building and as such does not reflect
the actual 'reconstruction of Iraq' as it exists today. It is also somewhat politically charged and thus inappropriate. I think this should be replaced with a more appropriate image, preferably a photograph that actually shows reconstruction in progress. Opinions?
206.124.6.36 05:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree regarding picture - I have removed it - Any objections? Dpahlfeld (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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message: The UK Government has established a commission to facilitate the effective development of public services and regeneration. This  involves using oil revenues to provide the means for public services, so that the people of Basra and Iraq receive the benefit of the oil revenues, unlike what happened under the authoritarian Ba'ath Regime of Saddam Hussein. The commission provides an effective means to liase with and between the Iraqi people and oil companies and leads to a significant reduction of corruption. 
--Minotaur500 (talk) 20:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The commission appears to be a business development entity - which is outside the scope of this article in my opinion. Dpahlfeld (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basra Development Commission 

message: "There was also much controversy surrounding the granting of no-bid contracts to large American corporations like Halliburton and Bechtel, both of which have made generous donations to President George W. Bush and the Republican Party." -This statement is cited by reference #16, which leads to a file not found page on a site. Appatently the article was removed. So can someone fond a new citation?
--Abusing (talk) 05:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded the text to avoid a need for this reference.  This topic is covered well by the other references. Dpahlfeld (talk) 13:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Citation 

message: It seems to me, that the article isn't very objective here are some of the reasons why.
* Uses alot of emotionally charged words like "pre-invation".
* Uses old stats from 2004,2005,2006. Much has improved since then.
* Talks about Iraq being a failire as a fact.
* Little mention of the current reconstruction efforts (2008 on) which have been tremendously successful (since the siege) anyone who looks at the facts (even opponents of the iraq war like Obma have commented on its new founded success)
* Article focuses on the bad, evil, murder, and corruption. Almost all comparisions are made with saddam and how much better they had it. This is well and good those stats shouldn't be removed but what about the otherside? The article should equally focus on the GOOD things that have happened. Unlike a news real who are natrually attracted to bad news (its what the public likes) wikipedia is supposed to provide an accuate objective account. Both the good and the bad should be shown.
* The structure of the article implies Iraq as an "invasion" without no voice talking about a "liberation". Both views should be allowed to be represented through the structure of the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.209.103.34 (talk) 23:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective article questioned 

message: Obv a lot of damage is done by war, our bombing and actions by terrorists - which are not our fault - initiators are responsible, not who they are reacting to. But the reason Iraq needs a lot of new infrastructure is war AND years of neglect, Saddam raking in billions and spending it on gaudy palaces for himself, bribing people and building WMDs and torture chambers. A lot was wasted. A lot of the oil was never sold. Sanctions were in place. Iran did some damage. But from today's perspective, in the 1960s, Iraq had no modern infrastructure in the first place, just like every other developing country. The first paragraph should reflect this, and not blame the Americans for every lack of a service in the world, just because they PRECISION bombed a city for a few days. It's like blaming the Romans for Britain having no skyscrapers in the middle ages just because they were ONCE the aggressor - yes, but they built a lot of the rest of the infrastructure. The article implies that everything Iraq does not have or used to have was destroyed by coalition forces. The primary culprit was Saddam. --81.105.242.11 (talk) 12:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with the comment made above, whilst huge damage was done by the invasion and war there should atleast be some mention of the fact Iraqs services had lacked funding and resources for some time following UN sanctions and incompetent / corrupt government.  BritishWatcher (talk) 14:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  A new section on the status of pre-2003 infrastructure has been added. Dpahlfeld (talk) 01:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  War vs neglect 

message: I have added the disputed tag to this article, as at the moment it fails to present a balanced view on the reasons for reconstruction of Iraq. I fully accept that alot of damage was done during the invasion and the occupation and in the following years because of violence, but there should atleast be a sentence explaining that Iraqs infastructure was under funded and poor before the war aswell. Idealy i think a section on Iraq before the invasion would be able to detail the situation and present a more balanced view. Once atleast a mention of the state of Iraq before the invasion is added, i will remove the tag but its clear by the above post im not the only one who has a problem with the current wording. BritishWatcher (talk) 14:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Given the presence of a new section on pre-2003 infrastructure I have removed the dispute tag.  Any objection?  Dpahlfeld (talk) 01:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: "Reconstruction of Iraq describes attempts by the international community to improve and repair the infrastructure of Iraq in the aftermath of the 2003 invasion, when much was destroyed by the international community." 
fixed that for you ;) 78.86.37.93 (talk) 18:32, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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