Talk:Eddie Guerrero/Archive 1

message: Guerrero does not deserve to be remembered as only a "Hispanic Professional Wrestler", he deserves to be remembered as the best professional wrestler of modern times and qualifying his legacy with a term of race is an insult to his memory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zuul (talk • contribs) .
:The only neutrality issues here are those relating to you. The standard policy with wrestler pages is to explain their nationality as an adjective in the opening sentence. As Guerrero was born in Mexico but apprently became an American citizen, "Hispanic" is a more appropriate term. Calling him the "best professional wrestler of modern times" is not neutral. McPhail 18:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality Issues with this Page 

message: Eddie Guerrero vs. Eddy Guerrero: The first has 10 times more google hits, so i change dthe name back to Eddie Guerrero, and noted the alternate spelling -- Chris 73 | Talk 04:34, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Well, I am personally shocked at the passing of Eddie Guerrero. Rest in Peace Eddie, we'll miss you. — Moe ε 20:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here.  I found out about it at a message board I frequent, and simply couldn't believe it.  Such a sad story. Jeff Silvers 21:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie's Passing 

message: *RIP.--Ironbrew 06:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rest in peace 

message: Does anybody have a full transcript of the press conference video concerning Eddie's death available at WWE.com?  The video won't play right for me. Jeff Silvers 21:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Press conference transcript

message: On the day of his death, he was set to face Batista and Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Championship on November 13 taping of Friday Night SmackDown! to air on November 18. It was highly speculated that he was to win the title that night and <B>hence walk out World Heavyweight Champion for the 2nd time</b> (his first major title reign was in February 2004), a rumor fueled by the fact that current champion Batista is scheduled to have surgery.
Eddie was never the WHC prior...he won the WWE Title who's lineage is separate from the World Heavyweight Championship (which is supposed to trace it's ancestry from WCW). It's a bit misleading, unless it was meant that he was going to win the second top-level belt in his career.
Also if you want to get into it, I'm fairly certain he would have been the first man to hold the 2 belts since the roster split. Possibly a little tidbit if I'm right128.226.160.123 18:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ignoring the pointless dispute over lineage (I was the anon who started this thread), my main point was with the terminology involved. an anon below mentioned it...there are 2 meanings to World Heavyweight Championship. One of them has to do with magazines like PWI s a aclassification of the top belt in a fed, and the other is the actual title itself. Because of this particular fact, the statement is potentially misleading. That is what I wa sasking about, not a pointless lineage dispute.Toffile 15:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slight error? 

message: The line in the article's section concerning his death states it would be tomorrow but a transcription of the press conference has Chavo placing it about 3 days ago. Anyone know an exact date? 63.233.13.96 23:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Date of His 4 Year Sobriety 

message: According to a WWE.com article, the initial results have come in and it looks to be that Eddie died from drug overdose. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.162.68.235 (talk • contribs) .
Yeah, if you need a source, go here:  OutRider2003 18:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial results of autopsy 

message: Eddie did not die while in his sleep because I remember hearing that he was still holding his toothbrush when he died, and I don't believe Chavo nor Vince mentioned in the press conference that he died in his sleep either. OutRider2003 20:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of Death Needs Correction 

message: These subsections (that go below the Werestling fact section) were removed by a vandal just before the protection was put in place... if these could be added back ir would be much appriciated -- R.I.P EG  -- Paulley 10:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  error correcting 

message: Since Eddie is not the only 'Guerrero', and that Eddie Guerrero is referred to as Eddie by most people, I edited the 'Guerrero' that refers to Eddie Guerrero to 'Eddie'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.168.99.16 (talk • contribs) .
:This has been reverted. Instances whether there are two Guerreros can be differentiated by using "Eddie Guerrero". It is standard practise in all encylopedias, including Wikipedia, to refer to article subjects by their surname. McPhail 23:22, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie or Guerrero? 

message: Hi. It would be nice that a sysop would accept to add the French interwiki in the article : fr:Eddie Guerrero. Thanks. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 01:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for adding an interwiki in the article 

message: Do anyone really know how tough it was last night to watch RAW and see that Smackdown getting beat and knowing that Eddie would normally make the save and you just wait to see him do it in your heart but, know in your mind that isn't going to happen because sadly enough he gone away from us. J. C. - (09:10 22 Nov 05, UTC)
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*Reclínese en la paz, usted eran el nunber uno.--Pomegranite | talk 03:19, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It keeps troubling me even now, almost 3 months later - everytime the show goes off air 9:59/10:00pm, that there's one match, one entrance, one theme still to hit, but didn't for some reason...I really wish there is a heaven - people like Eddie deserve nothing less. Rama's Arrow 04:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''FIRST RAW/SMACKDOWN EVENT WITHOUT EDDIE'''

message: Does anybody else here think that the RAW and SmackDown! shows that were dedicated to Guerrero (the two immediately following his death) should have their own article like RAW is Owen? Jeff Silvers 21:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I somewhat agree, but what will we call the article? --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 03:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RAW/SmackDown! tribute show article? 

message: There is now a Eddie Guerrero: Memorial and Tribute Shows article, linked with the section Remembering Eddie. 
I ask for all Eddie and WWE fans, for Eddie's sake, to help expand the article and keep it a good quality article, and defend its inclusion in case there is a move to delete it or question its NPOV.
Jai Sri Rama! 
Rama's Arrow 17:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved it to Tributes to Eddie Guerrero, so it doesn't necessarily have to cover shows in his memory, but the reported video/album WWE is supposed to release. --Jtalledo (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Guerrero Special Article  

message: I'm working in the portuguese edition of Wikipedia. 
I would be happy if someone could give me the script of the wrestlers' biography top box, named "pwstatbox".
NSN3
Here's the page with the template.  Hit edit and copy the code.--Darren Jowalsen 23:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography Top Box 

message: Does anyone know what size this guy really was? I see only the billed figures here (with incorrect conversion I might add: 228 lbs=103 kg, not 104). Compared to the likes of 5'3" (1.60 m) Rey Mysterio and 6'3" (1.91 m) Batista (this is what they're said to be in real life), he looked about 5'6" (1.68 m) tall, weighing maybe 180–190 lbs (82–86 kg). Guesses don't count here of course, so it would be good if somene knows the facts.
Dave Meltzer when writing his issue reported that Eddie Guerrero was legitimately 5 feet 6.5 inches tall.
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It says that Eddie used narcottic painkillers at the time of his death, making it sound like he was still addicted to painkillers, which were part of his addictions years before.--Gusiman 00:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual size? 

message: The reason I did is it is just pure disrespectful to Eddie to have these paragraphs saying he faked his death and still alive. I wish he was still alive but I do not vandalize articles proclaiming he is still alive because it morally wrong and distasteful to his legend.
BionicWilliam 07:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At a guess, it's from his mother. That's traditional in Spanish-language countries I think (or at least I know several people in Spain who have names like that.) For future reference though, please can you sign your talk comments by finishing them with ~~~~ - thanks! Essexmutant 06:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, Randy Orton openly attacking "Eddie's chances of coming back to life", for a moment....God help us, we miss him so...Rama's Arrow 04:57, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I have removed some the Urban Legends & Myth section from the Eddie Guerrero & WWE articles

message: This article is constantly being vandalised, which is in very poor taste considering it is about someone who died recently.  Can it be locked? Sasaki 03:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: "It was also in ECW that Eddie first forged a friendship with Rey Mysterio Jr, the Hispanic bond between them drawing them togetehr acorss the locker room." - this comment has been removed as to the best of my knowledge it is untrue.  Eddie's last match in ECW was on 26th August 1995, while Rey Misterio Jr did not debut in ECW until 16th September 1995. Sasaki 22:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie and Rey in ECW 

message: Eddie Guerrero was a fantastic wrestler, from his amazing mic skills, to his passion for the sport. Eddie guerrero is a legend never to be forgotten, may he rest in peace.
Viva La Raza!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.192.19.235 (talk • contribs) 
Cheat 2 win. WE'LL MISS YOU, EDDIE! 66.218.22.93 04:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved Main Article Comment 

message: There should be a box for people to write messages about Eddie Guerrero--not really on the discussion pages. --Fr3nZi3 23:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments box

message: I don't think that the current storyline involving Rey and Chavo is really relevant enough to be included in this article. But I just wanted to ask for opinions before deleting that part. Akkifokkusu 05:47, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irrelevance of Storyline 

message: She is now a character on WWE Smackdown (having just turned heel on Rey Mysterio) and is officially part of their roster now. She has been featured every week for the last month, and it looks as if she is going to manage Chavo. Its time for her own Wikipedia entry. 65.30.40.87 07:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vickie Guerrero needs her own article 

message: the link of the official site was deleted again , i wrote the link back , and changed the order , i think it's logical that the official site is first , then his WWE's profile , and then the fansite ... right??? ( i can't remember my username so i have to create a new account *lol*)Carola1111 14:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Ok. We all know you miss Eddie Guerrero; i do too, i suppose.
Now stop vandalizing the page!!!
And Chavo's page. Chavo isnt Eddie. Chavo had nothing to do with his death.
Stop vandalizing Eddie's page, and if you have to vandalize, at least vandalize the right page so it makes sense!!! 
(Someday i hope we will be saying "RIP vandals" instead of "RIP Eddie Freakin Guerrero"....
Thank you...--Cookie 18:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RIP...Vandals

message: What about Eddie's match with JBL at Judgement Day 2004. There is no mention of this match in the article. it should be included as Eddie bled a shitload. Screw the Muta scale it should now be on the Eddie scale. Go to this site and see. http://inthisveryring.com/pictures/eddieblood2.jpg 60.227.99.12 07:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omitted details 

message: Stop your dumb rants!Obviously,the storyline between rey and chavo should have it's own freakin' section in this artical,because it is dismembering eddie's name!How can they do that to him?IT'S FREAKIN DISGUSTIN'! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.200 (talk • contribs) .
:Whether or not it offends some (or a lot) of people, individual feuds never get their own sections. The only time a feud would get its own section would be if the feud lasted for years. Also, if this feud were to get its own section, it would be in Rey or Chavo or Vickie's article, not this one. -- THL 04:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would answer your question, but it isn't relevant to this article. -- THLR 21:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CHAVO AND VICKIE 

message: I think the sentence pertaining to the explotation of Eddie Guerreros death is pretty POV. I'm a little torn as to wheter to remove it or not seeing as I agree with it whole heartedly. I mean the guy died over a year ago yet they have his nephew and wife playing a heel role feuding with two of best friends in the world, Rey and Chris. However as the sentence is a little POV I think it might need to be taken out or given its own section. Let me get some feedback please.--24.184.169.37 04:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: It was deleted with no explanation, so I readded it. Mr. Papaya 16:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Championships section