Talk:Racism in North America

message: The general defect in the article is its presentation of "racism" as a single type of behavior. However common in 21st-century politics (in a world preoccupied by migration) this omits or blurs (1) obvious differences between Canadian and US usage, most notably that "race" had nothing to do with skin colour for most of Canadian history; it meant the difference between French and English Canadians; and (2) "race" in the USA has always predominantly meant the difference between white and black people born Americans. It is historically connected with slavery, and therefore civil rights, but not with the cultural differences of foreign-born people in North American society.
>Indigenous women in Canada experience higher rates of racism than other women.  I will add to this topic.
interesting how little the native experience is covered and how much supposed legal protection for natives is provided in this article. compare this to the first sentence on mexico's racism, which is silly considering mexico has a lot more respect for their natives than canada. this article was obviously written and edited by (and for) canadians.
>I'm a little - a lot - skeptical  that Mexico, in it's infamy, is more tolerant in any respect compared Canada.  International reputations have merit.
:I am also concerned about editing this page.  I believe that to understand racism in Canada we need to first explain its history. I will be adding some historical backgroundIntrospectress (talk) 18:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to clarify that I am another person. I will also be assisting in adding the history portion to this entry. (AboriginalAbel (talk) 19:14, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Your first paragraph was written like a university essay. Not your fault as the rest of the article is pretty horribly written. --NeilN talk to me 19:57, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: One thing that might help is reading WP:ASSERT. Most of the article asserts opinions as facts, something it should not do. --NeilN talk to me 20:02, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Racism in Canada

message: Does anyone know if there is any correlation between the drug cartels in Mexico and the class divisions? Are these drug lords usually lighter or darker skinned and are they a force attempting to counteract the corruptions of Mexico's government by producing selling drugs because that is the only way they can avoid being poor? Also, I'm thinking about adding illegal immigration being a cause of the racism. Quinder (talk) 03:50, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug Cartels in Mexico and Racism 

message: Güero doesn't come from Guerrero. It isn't even spelled the same way,
 GÜE has a similar pronunciation than WA in way, while GUE is pronunced like GHE in ghetto.
The alternative of it coming from the old word engorado or enhuerado which means rotten egg should be considered.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.235.187.94 (talk) 03:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Güero

message: Why isn't there at least a small summary of "Racism in the United States" in this article? --Schwindtd (talk) 00:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am being bold and will be using WP:CWW to expand on the section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43?9enter (talk • contribs) 04:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racism in America 

message: The lead sentence of this article is "This article describes the state of race relations and racism in North America". This his however a poorly organized list of both historical and current example of racism. It is neither a list or a comprehensive text. This should be either narrow down to a quick list of link to different pages that address these specifics questions, or someone knowledgeable on the topic should produce a comprehensive text. The later option would required to demonstrate some commonalities to the various form of racism in North America. If this is just a grouping of information liked by a geographical entity, a list is sufficient. Enteka2010 (talk) 23:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is this article anyway? 

message: There is a lot to write about regarding that. Crossovershipper (talk) 20:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I could agree more, Racism in Canada should also have it's own page, there is alot to write about there also. Charles Essie (talk) 00:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Racism in Mexico should have it's own page

message: An RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 17:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There has been major edits made by new editor User:Jyinx. In fact, this is his or her first edit to an article. So, it would be helpful to provide feedback to the editor. I would be willing to refer this person to our Wikipedia policy pages and guidelines, but I want to break down why the edits are being made.
- There were a number of statements that were based on opinion pieces, like the reference from Macleans and the Guardian. Now, I know that those are notable publications, but the articles cited are opinion pieces, and the parts of the opinion pieces that are relevant to the edits are not supported in the opinion piece with facts or context or an explanation on how the statement was made. 
- The editor had added statements that were in the later part of the article already. Given that this article could get out of control and become unnecessarily long, editors need to summarize topics appropriately and avoid repetition. We could also create a second Wikipedia article if any particular topic gets too long.
It's tough to revert the work of a new editor, but this is a case where the editor doesn't really understand Wikipedia's guidelines, or even the topic at hand.DivaNtrainin (talk) 05:19, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major edits to Canada section by very new editor

message: Should we merge this with the South American racism article to form one unified Racism in the Americas page? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:37, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I am thinking that this would make this article quite big. I also think that since there are so many differences between all the countries that we couldn't draw any overall trends between the countries. Also, given that most of the english editors are in North American and not as much from South America, the North American section would get far more details than the South American section, which is not fair to the smaller South American countries. Suggest we keep them separate.DivaNtrainin (talk) 03:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: Is this in north America, I would have thought south america?Slatersteven (talk) 09:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trinidad and Tobago 

message: Based on the talk page above, I can safely say this is an issue that hasn't been addressed in years. As I've mentioned, this article is too broad and should be merged with their own respective articles. All these countries have distinct issues in regards to racism. Telsho (talk) 01:06, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Telsho, I've left comments already on the Racism in Mexico page. I would suggest and be in favor of stripping redundant information from this page and only having the sections redirect to the far more detailed full pages (US, Mexico, Canada). The main point that needs to be addressed on this page is to compare and contrast the experience and development of racism in North America.  This should be imo a sourced summary that looks at the differences between Anglo-America and Latin-America colonial processes, up to today. Basically, the specifics of racism now vary widely in Mexico and the US. I know less about Canada. Thanks. Hesperian Nguyen (talk) 22:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Support merger Yeah, I can't see any need for an umbrella article like this on an entire geographic continent when each country obviously has its own unique issues. The more focused articles on the individual countries are all we need.Resowithrae (talk) 13:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge