Talk:The Wizard of Oz (1902 musical)

message: I reverted all these changes, since they were unreferenced and look dubious.  If the anonymous editor who made the changes can support them with citations to authoritative sources, please do so here so that we can evaluate them.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: August 2017

message: The Music section at the end of the article is mostly comprised of lists which do not provide much context.  I plan to REPLACE these lists with a large searchable table that provides information on where in the show the music was used, lyricist/composer, character(s) that sang it, date range, and references.  This will make it easier to update with additional information as found.
Below is a sample. If you have any concerns, let me know by the end of June.
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Index	Act	Title                  	Lyricist                      	Composer                        	Character       	Dates       	Notes                                                                       	Sheet Music Publisher/Date     	References
08   	1  	Niccolo's Piccolo      	L. Frank Baum; Glen MacDonough	Paul Tietjens; A. Baldwin Sloane	Cynthia         	1902 - 1906+	                                                                            	[Publisher?] (1902)            	1902 Program, 1903 Script, Swartz
09.1 	1  	In Michigan            	Glen MacDonough               	A. Baldwin Sloane               	Pastoria; Chorus	1902 - 1904 	Replaced for the Mar 1904 Edition De Luxe                                   	                               	1902 Program, 1903 Script, Swartz
09.2 	1  	The Tale of a Cassowary	Will D. Cobb                  	Gus Edwards                     	Cynthia         	1904 - 1905 	Added for the Mar 1904 Edition De Luxe. Replaced for the 1905 touring season	Shapiro, Remick, and Co. (1904)	Swartz
TheCataloguer (talk) 16:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 16, 2020 

message: Why did the musical feature some songs with lyrics that had nothing to do with the Wizard of Oz? Take Must You? (sung by the Tin Man) for example. The lyrics regard an unhappy marriage of a man and his overbearing wife "Matilda Jane". There is no mention of anyone named "Matilda Jane" in any part of the original book or play, apart from that song (I looked it up). If it was like Mr. Dooley and was sung as a regular British music hall song in some unknown production where the lyrics had relevance to the plot (since the composers were British and wrote music hall songs), that would make at least a little more sense. But it still begs the question, why did this (and possibly other musicals) have songs lyrically unrelated to the story? I presume that it being an extravaganza and an extravaganza being categorized by freedom of style, that could mean that songs with lyrics unrelated to the source material being used was freedom of style.
For some context for Must You? (sourced from the link above), Bert Brantford (real name Albert Comerford) (1879 - 1973) and Harry Boden (birth and death date unknown) were British music hall songwriters, and most often wrote music hall songs sung by Bert's older brother, Harry Ford (real name Harry Comerford) (1874 - 1955).
Here is also one more interesting thing regarding Must You? which might give a clue as to its true origin. This annual for the publishing company Reeder & Walsh lists Must You? as one of the songs sung by Harry Ford (Bert Brantford's brother), as well as other songs also written by Brantford and Boden including a song named What a silly I must have been which sounds similar to the opening line of Must You? ("I must have been a silly sort of josh")
Sorry for the wall of text (I am genuinely very interested in the matter), but can anybody provide a clear answer as to why this is, as well as lyrically unrelated songs that were apparently written specifically for the musical? Many thanks. Regards, A Clockwork Potato (talk) 06:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question regarding the usage of the songs.