Talk:Records of prime ministers of the United Kingdom

message: A few of these are uncertain so any help/best guesses would be appreciated.
===Most Parliamentary elections===
I think the PM who fought the most parliamentary elections was Churchill with a grand total of 21 (by-elections in 1899, 1908 {twice}, 1917, 1924; general elections in 1900, 1906 1910 {twice}, 1918, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1929, 1931, 1935, 1945, 1950, 1951, 1955 and 1955) but there may well be earlier ones who exceed this (the longer 7 year Parliaments until 1911 being balanced out by the Ministers of the Crown Act requiring newly appointed Ministers to seek re-election, though usually an uncontested formality). Timrollpickering 22:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm...interesting question.  I think Palmerston beats Churchill, though.  He would appear to have run first in the 1806 general election and lost (1); then won a by-election in Horsham later that year but was unseated (2); then lost in his first attempt to find a seat in 1807 after his appointment as a Junior Lord of the Admiralty (3); then finally elected for Newport later that year (4); then re-elected to that seat after his appointment as Secretary at War in 1809 (5); then elected in an 1811 by-election for Cambridge University (6); re-elected in the 1812 general election (7); in the 1818 general election (8); in the 1820 general election (9); in the 1826 general election (10); in the 1830 general election (11); in the by-election occasioned by his appointment as foreign secretary that same year (12); then he lost the 1831 general election for the University (13); but was elected either at the same time or in a very early by-election for Bletchingley (14); then in the 1832 general for South Hampshire(15); then he appears to have lost at South Hampshire in the 1835 general election (16); but he was elected for Tiverton later that year, after his re-appointment as Foreign Secretary (17); re-elected in the 1837 general election (18); in the 1841 general election (19); in an 1846 by-election after his third appointment as foreign secretary (20); in the 1847 general election (21); in the 1852 general election (22); in what would have probably been an 1853 by-election after his appointment as home secretary (23); in an 1855 by-election after his appointment as Prime Minister (24); in the 1857 general election (25); in the 1859 general election (26); in the 1859 by-election caused by his second appointment as prime minister (27); and, finally, in the 1865 general election (28).  So that seems likely to be more than Churchill, assuming I've not accidentally created any phantom by-elections. john k (talk) 17:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect to Timrollpickering, Churchill fought 22 Parliamentary elections - his last was in the General Election 1959, before retiring at the 1964 Election when his seat was anyway abolished.Cloptonson (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I don't know that it's at all clear that Palmerston was the first Liberal PM.  The Whigs started to be called Liberals as early as the Grey and Melbourne ministries, and I've definitely seen works that describe Gladstone's first ministry as the first Liberal ministry (or Russell's second ministry as the last Whig one). john k (talk) 17:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncertain

message: I think the PM who fought the most parliamentary elections was Churchill with a grand total of 21 (by-elections in 1899, 1908 {twice}, 1917, 1924; general elections in 1900, 1906 1910 {twice}, 1918, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1929, 1931, 1935, 1945, 1950, 1951, 1955 and 1955) but there may well be earlier ones who exceed this (the longer 7 year Parliaments until 1911 being balanced out by the Ministers of the Crown Act requiring newly appointed Ministers to seek re-election, though usually an uncontested formality). Timrollpickering 22:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm...interesting question.  I think Palmerston beats Churchill, though.  He would appear to have run first in the 1806 general election and lost (1); then won a by-election in Horsham later that year but was unseated (2); then lost in his first attempt to find a seat in 1807 after his appointment as a Junior Lord of the Admiralty (3); then finally elected for Newport later that year (4); then re-elected to that seat after his appointment as Secretary at War in 1809 (5); then elected in an 1811 by-election for Cambridge University (6); re-elected in the 1812 general election (7); in the 1818 general election (8); in the 1820 general election (9); in the 1826 general election (10); in the 1830 general election (11); in the by-election occasioned by his appointment as foreign secretary that same year (12); then he lost the 1831 general election for the University (13); but was elected either at the same time or in a very early by-election for Bletchingley (14); then in the 1832 general for South Hampshire(15); then he appears to have lost at South Hampshire in the 1835 general election (16); but he was elected for Tiverton later that year, after his re-appointment as Foreign Secretary (17); re-elected in the 1837 general election (18); in the 1841 general election (19); in an 1846 by-election after his third appointment as foreign secretary (20); in the 1847 general election (21); in the 1852 general election (22); in what would have probably been an 1853 by-election after his appointment as home secretary (23); in an 1855 by-election after his appointment as Prime Minister (24); in the 1857 general election (25); in the 1859 general election (26); in the 1859 by-election caused by his second appointment as prime minister (27); and, finally, in the 1865 general election (28).  So that seems likely to be more than Churchill, assuming I've not accidentally created any phantom by-elections. john k (talk) 17:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect to Timrollpickering, Churchill fought 22 Parliamentary elections - his last was in the General Election 1959, before retiring at the 1964 Election when his seat was anyway abolished.Cloptonson (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Most Parliamentary elections

message: The first PM is acknowledged as Robert Walpole and the first women is clearly Margaret Thatcher. However others are trickier.
The first non-Christian and first gay PMs are debated by many because the evidence is unclear.
Not everyone now considers Jews to be ethnic minorities. Others have argued that at times the Scots, Welsh and Irish were. So who is the first here?
First from each party:
The first Labour PM is clearly Ramsay MacDonald (even if Labour tried to airbrush him out of their history for a time).
The first Liberal is clearly Palmerston (even though both he and the second, Russel, were in their second terms in office).
We can clearly say Walpole was a Whig and thus the first by definition.
We can reasonably call Aberdeen a Peelite.
But the first Tory is unclear because of the fluid nature of political parties in the second half of the 18th century - is Bute really a PM from the Tory Party as continuing from that of Bolingbroke and Harley?
Similarly who is the first Conservative PM? In 1834 Wellington was only really a caretaker standing in for a returning Peel. And later Conservatives such as Disraeli did try to airbrush out Peel from party history, looking to either earlier periods like Pitt or claiming that their Conservative party was emerged from the Protectionists opposed to Peel. Timrollpickering 22:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know that it's at all clear that Palmerston was the first Liberal PM.  The Whigs started to be called Liberals as early as the Grey and Melbourne ministries, and I've definitely seen works that describe Gladstone's first ministry as the first Liberal ministry (or Russell's second ministry as the last Whig one). john k (talk) 17:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: First...

message: Can anyone suggest any others to list on this page? Timrollpickering 22:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Others

message: There are a couple of other records which can be found on the official Prime Minister's website at:
Prime Ministers in History
David 08:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Others on the PM website 

message: I've removed the additions made earlier today by William Quill, as the article is broadly about records in the sense of extremes.  While detailing which Prime Ministers were either in the Commons or the Lords has a place somewhere, it's not here.  The nature of the article is such that any given category should in theory only have one name against it (e.g. there can only ever be one "oldest Prime Minister").
To put it another way, this article is the political equivalent of stating who the world record holder is for the 100m sprint, as opposed to listing all athletes who have ever one the 100m sprint at the Olympics.
Silverhelm 18:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I expected as much, but I thought I'd risk it. Would anyone have an idea of where such a list should go, if it's worth adding at all. They're lists of Prime Ministers who throughout their political career sat in only one of the houses. William Quill 12:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has only been since 1902 (retirement of Lord Salisbury) that Prime Ministers have always been serving members of the House of Commons when holding that office, a situation which gives a greater sense of achievement to acquiring and holding the office, so I think it is helpful to modern readers (and fair to modern aspirants to political office in UK) to include records qualified "since members of the House of Lords ceased to hold the office".  Members of the House of Lords sometimes had unfair advantage in that they could have been members without ever having served in the Commons (peerages have sometimes been inherited before the person was old enough to vote) or fought a parliamentary election.Cloptonson (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raison d'être of the article 

message: Why is Margaret Thatcher not included anywhere in this article? She is still the first and only female Prime Minister the UK have had.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.93.162.90 (talk) 21:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: She now appears four times in different sections of this page (two insertions by me).Cloptonson (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Female Prime Minister 

message: Under the miscellaneous section at the end you have details for the tallest PMs.  According to a comment in Paul Johnson's "Oxford Book of Political Anecdotes", Henry Campbell-Bannerman and his wife were both "nearly twenty stone".  Were any PMs reportedly heavier, it sounds an unusual weight for his own era.Cloptonson (talk) 06:32, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Other potential contenders for 'heaviest' include Walpole and Lord Salisbury, were their weights recorded?Cloptonson (talk) 05:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Campbell-Bannerman heaviest?

message: I have raised a citation need against statement in the Miscellaneous section that Pitt the Younger was £40,000 in debt in 1800 - not over the figure but the year. His Wikipedia biography states he was £40,000 in debt at time of his death in 1806.Cloptonson (talk) 19:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: To update, I have discovered that the 3rd Duke of Portland, who according to his ODNB article had an annual income of £17,000, died in 1809 (3 years later) leaving debts computed at £52,000. As to the record of "poorest Prime Minister", I think such a record should be stated in terms not only of debts but recorded assets and income for context.Cloptonson (talk) 05:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I also note Spencer Perceval left only £106 in the bank when he was assassinated in 1812 (another 3 years later).Cloptonson (talk) 22:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Pitt the Younger's record debts

message: Charles James Fox was NEVER PM, so I am deleting the reference to him, although I copy the text here in case someone knows other articles to copy this into:
:The most number of General Elections lost by an individual is 5. Charles James Fox was unsuccessful after contesting the 1784, 1790, 1796, 1801 co-option, and 1802 General Elections.
It also needs making clear why you are mentioning Asquith - is it the number of elections he contested as Prime Minister and (Liberal) Party Leader?Cloptonson (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Most General Elections contested category

message: I have added a section on Religious minority Prime Ministers.  The denominations to which they belonged would be 'minority' in the context of what had become by Walpole's time a primarily Anglican population.  As well as other denominations held while in office I have also added those a few of them were known to be either brought up in or (in notable case of Tony Blair) converted to. Investigation is wanted on the Earl of Shelburne who is stated, without citation, in his Wikipedia biography infobox to be by religion "Dissenter" (article linked to "English Dissenters")Cloptonson (talk) 20:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Religious minority PMs

message: I notice that Alec Douglas-Home has been added to the list of Prime Ministers who held office without a General Election affecting their time in office. In fact, he contested and lost the 1964 General Election, to Harold Wilson, and only subsequently (1965) did he resign from Conservative Party leadership when Edward Heath succeeded. I will therefore delete him.Cloptonson (talk) 20:10, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Alec Douglas-Home

message: I notice Theresa May has been added to the list of disabled serving Prime Ministers because of her (known to me) diabetes. I question if that is classed as a disability - though diabetes can be a cause of disability such as blindness and limb amputations.  BTW, Winston Churchill, in his book Great Contemporaries mentions Lord Rosebery had diabetes in later life and once took an accidental overdose of insulin when that treatment was in its infancy.Cloptonson (talk) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Diabetes a 'disability'?

message: Mentioned under the section 'Died in office' is the fact Margaret Thatcher and John Major both survived assassination attempts while in office but I am sure they are not the only ones. Sir Robert Peel was the intended victim in 1843 of a man who instead shot dead his personal secretary (dealt with in Peel's Wikipedia biography). I also recall, in a book Churchill in America, 1895-1961: An Affectionate Portrait (author Robert Pilpel) that on one of his WWII travels Winston Churchill had a gun pulled on him in America by a man who was overpowered but I forgot the exact timing. I have added Robert Peel's case in the meantime. Mention is best confined to those who were targets of witnessed and enacted attempts, rather than hindsightedly rumoured.Cloptonson (talk) 09:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Assassination attempts

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message: The information given on this page seems inconsistent with that on the page of Jenkinson's grandmother, the URL of which is below.
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message: I see the addition of Boris to the bachelor's section - can the list of alive former PMs be updated then as well (as well as anything else?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.169.248 (talk) 15:46, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add all at once, or not at all? 

message: The section on terms is currently kind of conflated.
Given the current likelihood that the Johnson Government is unlikely to last
very long, the article will need some revision and it might be useful
to make this information just a little more readable...
perhaps if this sub-section
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom#Period_of_service
can be changed from 
=== Period of service ===
The Prime Minister with the longest single term was Sir Robert Walpole, lasting 20 years and 315 days from 3 April 1721 until 11 February 1742.[1] This is also longer than the accumulated terms of any other Prime Minister.
The shortest period in office is more confused, depending on the criteria. The shortest ever period was only two days, a record held by Lord Bath, from 10 February to 12 February 1746, who was asked to form a government but was unable to find more than one person who would agree to serve in his cabinet. A satirist of the time wrote: "the minister to the astonishment of all wise men never transacted one rash thing; and, what is more marvellous, left as much money in the Treasury as he found in it." James Waldegrave, 2nd Earl Waldegrave was a prime minister for four days, from 8 June to 12 June 1757. However, since neither of these Earls actually formed an effective government, there are other contenders for the record of shortest term of office among those who actually governed the country.
In November 1834, the Duke of Wellington declined to become Prime Minister in favour of Sir Robert Peel but formed a ’caretaker’ administration for 25 days (17 November 1834 – 9 December 1834) while Peel returned from Europe. However, as a caretaker administration this might not necessarily be considered a term of office in its own right.
Therefore, of those with clear and effective terms, the Prime Minister with the shortest single one was Lord Rockingham, whose second term lasted 96 days from 27 March 1782 until his death on 1 July 1782. However, combined with his first term (13 July 1765 – 30 July 1766) his total time in office was 1 year and 113 days, which exceeds the total periods of several other Prime Ministers. (The Duke of Wellington had also served as Prime Minister between 1828 and 1830.)
Consequently, the Prime Minister with the total shortest period in office was George Canning, whose sole term lasted 119 days from 12 April 1827 until his death on 8 August 1827.
The Prime Minister with the longest period between the start of their first appointment and the end of their final term was the Duke of Portland, whose first term began on 2 April 1783 and whose second and final term ended on 4 October 1809. 
over to
=== Period of Service === 
==== Longest Term ====
The Prime Minister with the longest single term was Sir Robert Walpole, lasting 20 years and 315 days from 3 April 1721 until 11 February 1742.[1] This is also longer than the accumulated terms of any other Prime Minister.
==== Longest Period between First Appointment and End of Final Term ====
The Prime Minister with the longest period between the start of their first appointment and the end of their final term was the Duke of Portland, whose first term began on 2 April 1783 and whose second and final term ended on 4 October 1809
==== Shortest term without forming a Government ====
The shortest ever period was only two days, a record held by Lord Bath, from 10 February to 12 February 1746, who was asked to form a government but was unable to find more than one person who would agree to serve in his cabinet. A satirist of the time wrote: "the minister to the astonishment of all wise men never transacted one rash thing; and, what is more marvellous, left as much money in the Treasury as he found in it." James Waldegrave, 2nd Earl Waldegrave was a prime minister for four days, from 8 June to 12 June 1757. However, since neither of these Earls actually formed an effective government, there are other contenders for the record of shortest term of office among those who actually governed the country.
In November 1834, the Duke of Wellington declined to become Prime Minister in favour of Sir Robert Peel but formed a ’caretaker’ administration for 25 days (17 November 1834 – 9 December 1834) while Peel returned from Europe. However, as a caretaker administration this might not necessarily be considered a term of office in its own right.
==== Shortest Single Term Government ====
The Prime Minister with the shortest single one was Lord Rockingham, whose second term lasted 96 days from 27 March 1782 until his death on 1 July 1782. However, combined with his first term (13 July 1765 – 30 July 1766) his total time in office was 1 year and 113 days, which exceeds the total periods of several other Prime Ministers. (The Duke of Wellington had also served as Prime Minister between 1828 and 1830.)
==== Shortest Single Period in Office ====
The Prime Minister with the total shortest period in office was George Canning, whose sole term lasted 119 days from 12 April 1827 until his death on 8 August 1827.
This would make the subsection more readable and easily updated, if the Johnson Government falls within 60 days.
--Patbahn (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking up Period  of service into "Longest" and "Shortest". 

message: ==== Longest Term ====
The Prime Minister with the longest single term was Sir Robert Walpole, lasting 20 years and 315 days from 3 April 1721 until 11 February 1742.[1] This is also longer than the accumulated terms of any other Prime Minister.
==== Longest Period between First Appointment and End of Final Term ====
The Prime Minister with the longest period between the start of their first appointment and the end of their final term was the Duke of Portland, whose first term began on 2 April 1783 and whose second and final term ended on 4 October 1809
==== Shortest term without forming a Government ====
The shortest ever period was only two days, a record held by Lord Bath, from 10 February to 12 February 1746, who was asked to form a government but was unable to find more than one person who would agree to serve in his cabinet. A satirist of the time wrote: "the minister to the astonishment of all wise men never transacted one rash thing; and, what is more marvellous, left as much money in the Treasury as he found in it." James Waldegrave, 2nd Earl Waldegrave was a prime minister for four days, from 8 June to 12 June 1757. However, since neither of these Earls actually formed an effective government, there are other contenders for the record of shortest term of office among those who actually governed the country.
In November 1834, the Duke of Wellington declined to become Prime Minister in favour of Sir Robert Peel but formed a ’caretaker’ administration for 25 days (17 November 1834 – 9 December 1834) while Peel returned from Europe. However, as a caretaker administration this might not necessarily be considered a term of office in its own right.
==== Shortest Single Term Government ====
The Prime Minister with the shortest single one was Lord Rockingham, whose second term lasted 96 days from 27 March 1782 until his death on 1 July 1782. However, combined with his first term (13 July 1765 – 30 July 1766) his total time in office was 1 year and 113 days, which exceeds the total periods of several other Prime Ministers. (The Duke of Wellington had also served as Prime Minister between 1828 and 1830.)
==== Shortest Single Period in Office ====
The Prime Minister with the total shortest period in office was George Canning, whose sole term lasted 119 days from 12 April 1827 until his death on 8 August 1827.
This would make the subsection more readable and easily updated, if the Johnson Government falls within 60 days.
--Patbahn (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Period of Service 

message: The Prime Minister with the total shortest period in office was George Canning, whose sole term lasted 119 days from 12 April 1827 until his death on 8 August 1827.
This would make the subsection more readable and easily updated, if the Johnson Government falls within 60 days.
--Patbahn (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortest Single Period in Office 

message: Does Gladstone actually belong on this list?...Lord Salisbury had previously succeeded him directly,but when Gladstone finally retired in 1894,his immediate successor was Rosebery,who lost the 1895 election to Salisbury before Gladstone died in 1898.--12.144.5.2 (talk) 05:29, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Having seen no comment since but see him still on that list I have decided to remove Gladstone as Lord Salisbury obviously does not fit the qualifying word immediate.Cloptonson (talk) 09:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Died while immediate successor was in office 

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message: Is it correct to refer to Lord Liverpool's status as Anglo-Indian as a 'nationality', when it is properly an ethnic minority distinction? Ethnic Anglo-Indians could be citizens of either the United Kingdom, India, Pakistan or Bangladesh (the latter two modern states formerly part of British India pre-1947)..Cloptonson (talk) 15:54, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality detail - Lord Liverpool 

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replies: text: Records of prime ministers of the United Kingdom → ? – Title is possibly ambiguous with regard to historical sources as the term "record", uncertain here. Chelston-temp-1 (talk) 15:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 May 2021 

message: The table mis-identifies Churchill as a Conservative throughout his parliamentary career. He was of course a Liberal from 1904 to 1924. I don't know how to make tables work. DuncanHill (talk) 19:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prime ministers who were Father of the House 

message: The section 'Most children', which I recall stated Lord Grey was the most prolific Prime Minister (the brood included one known illegitimate child), appears to have been deleted. Has Lord Grey's record been called into question? If the section was removed intentionally it would have been civil to have given notice of intention with an explanation. I have reinstated the section, populated with cited details copied from Lord Grey's wikipedia article.Cloptonson (talk) 18:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: section Most Children - what happened?

message: I have seen several Wikipedia references on Prime Minister, General Election pages claiming Liz Truss was Prime Minister for 44 days. These claims are wrong. She is STILL Prime Minister and if the nuclear codes had to be used this weekend it's her call.
She is still acting Prime Minister until a new leader is elected AND King Charles III has formally accepted that person as PM. So about another 7 days need to be added to the 44 tally on many Wikipedia pages. 
Looks like Wikipedia editors were too quick.. 81.228.193.66 (talk) 14:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liz Truss not 44 days 

message: The article currently states there will be three Prime Ministers since 2019, however, as Boris Johnson appears to be one of the most likely successors of Liz Truss, this may not end up being the case. I tried editing to say “Unless Boris Johnson returns as prime minister”, but editing is disabled.
I did also wonder, at the current rate, if it should say “at least three”.
Related, I did also wonder about a “most changes in prime minister in a year” category. 78.144.19.35 (talk) 11:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most PMs in office between general elections 

message: I have to correct a mistake on the section about Rishi Sunak. 151.57.85.246 (talk) 18:13, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2022 

message: He doesn't even include meat in his occasional weekday breakfast, stating in a 2021 podcast, "In terms of breakfast, well, I do some intermittent fasting so most days it's nothing. Otherwise, I'd probably have Greek yogurt and blueberries during the week." "And then I'd have a second breakfast mid-morning which is either a cinnamon bun or a pain au chocolat or a chocolate chip muffin. So I'd have a chocolatey, sugary pastry at some point." I should remain in the article.Speakfor (talk) 19:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Sunak's mostly vegetarian diet is enlightening

message: Margaret Thatcher's three terms of office is not included in the 'terms of office' section ?! Danzealloyd (talk) 11:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Margaret Thatcher missing?!