Category talk:Wikipedia administration

message: Either this category needs to be a parent category of :Category:Wikipedia, or that category needs to be a parent of this one.   They cannot both avoid each other -- it makes things more difficult to find. Elonka 05:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong, this is a top level category. :Category:Wikipedia is part of the encylopedia. This category is not. Mirror Vax 07:10, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure that makes any sense, can you please explain how you are defining "top level category"?  In any case, I went ahead and added a "See also" link.  The problem that I am trying to address, is that when someone is searching through a series of categories for a specific article, there needs to be some cross-over so that if they get to this one, they still have a way of finding :Category:Wikipedia, and vice-versa.  Elonka 07:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Top level means it has no parent category. The "see also" is fine. Mirror Vax 10:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not about purity, it's about avoiding self reference. Content for readers shouldn't be intermixed with Wikimedia operational cruft as much as possible and that extends to the category system. --Gmaxwell 05:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for pointing that out; would you be opposed to adding :Category:Wikipedia administration to :Category:Categories, in that case? It seems your arguments against this (Category talk:Wikipedia administration#Categorization) concern self-reference. Self-reference is not a problem in :Category:Categories, as it's not part of the encyclopedic content (any more than, say, the index page in a paper encyclopedia including an initial help chapter). Further, it'd not be a self-reference in itself; it'd be 'for content concerning Wikipedia itself, see this subcategory.' // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 06:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection there. Thats fine... The problem that initally caused that category to be split off was because the interlink with the main hierarchy was causing all the policy stuff to be (ultimately) a root of almost every top level encyclopedic category which goofs up some next generation navagation tools I've been working on. I went through a severed a lot of bogus links, connecting it up to Categories would cause no harm... (Until someone puts categories in Category:Science and then I have to kill them :) ). --Gmaxwell 06:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Duly noted. ;) // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 06:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Per the discussion above, I've added this page to the top category. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 10:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorization 

message: The following discussion is excerpted from User_talk:Gmaxwell.
Category:Wikipedia as top-level
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:: Thank you for pointing that out; would you be opposed to adding :Category:Wikipedia administration to :Category:Categories, in that case? It seems your arguments against this (Category talk:Wikipedia administration#Categorization) concern self-reference. Self-reference is not a problem in :Category:Categories, as it's not part of the encyclopedic content (any more than, say, the index page in a paper encyclopedia including an initial help chapter). Further, it'd not be a self-reference in itself; it'd be 'for content concerning Wikipedia itself, see this subcategory.' // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 06:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection there. Thats fine... The problem that initally caused that category to be split off was because the interlink with the main hierarchy was causing all the policy stuff to be (ultimately) a root of almost every top level encyclopedic category which goofs up some next generation navagation tools I've been working on. I went through a severed a lot of bogus links, connecting it up to Categories would cause no harm... (Until someone puts categories in Category:Science and then I have to kill them :) ). --Gmaxwell 06:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Duly noted. ;) // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 06:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Per the discussion above, I've added this page to the top category. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 10:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated 

message: I've not read all of the above. Some of it may explain why this category is now both a parent and a child category of :category:Wikipedia categories. Not good. Robin Patterson 14:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed one of the loops: Special:Diff/965862009. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

text: Second loop has been removed: Special:Diff/966582476. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Endless loop

message: I've reorganized subcategories :Category:Wikipedia administration, and moved a lot of pages to subcategories, where appropriate. To organize the children of this category better, I've created five new subcategories:
* :Category:Wikipedia user administration
** :Category:Wikipedia user roles
* :Category:Wikipedia administration by MediaWiki feature
* :Category:Wikipedia Wikimedia administration
* :Category:Wikipedia technical administration
In addition to that, :Category:Wikipedia namespace administration and :Category:Wikipedia content administration have been recently renamed. Any feedback is appreciated. For example:
# Should :Category:Wikipedia template administration be in :Category:Wikipedia content administration or not?
# Is :Category:Wikipedia administration by MediaWiki feature useful at all? It's basically a cope out to thin the bulk of :Category:Wikipedia administration.
# :Category:Wikipedia technical administration is basically everything that could come up as a topic at WP:VPT. Is this category useful?
# Would it make sense to put Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) into :Category:Wikipedia technical administration?
# In which of the essay categories to put the essay Wikipedia:Threats to Wikipedia, which has little to do in the top-level :Category:Wikipedia administration.
In the mean time, I've moved on to cleaning up :Category:Wikipedia maintenance and :Category:Wikipedia backlog. —⁠andrybak (talk) 12:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 July overhaul 

message: Bird of prey: buzzard, vulture, falcon, hawk, canuck, etc. 2604:3D08:4D7C:E700:34C0:1D97:EA48:9088 (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Misplaced request Cannolis (talk) 22:00, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2022