Talk:Petah Tikva

message: Going by the Hebrew, Petah Tikvah is not usually hyphenated, whereas Tel Aviv usually is in Hebrew. I see no reason to hyphenate it here. Danny
Apologies. I see that the municipal website does hyphenate it in Hebrew. It looks awful (to me), but I would have no problem reverting it if you want. Unfortunately, there is no standard convention. Danny
In the US system (BGN) it's "Petaẖ Tiqwa". In the UN system (GEGN) it's "Petaẖ Tiqva". Israel apparently doesn't have a system unless it's BGN. Google votes for "Petah Tikva". Google gives no clear answer about the hyphen, but as the Hebrew apparently doesn't use one (technically a maqaf), I wouldn't use a hyphen in English. Thank goodness this is a modern place name only, so we don't have to worry about medieval vocalization. Could we list under the Google name with the US and UN spellings as alternatives, and get rid of the rest? It looks like they're there only because of redirects. --Hoziron 03:31, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
:I put in a bunch of those alternatives, mostly because they were ones I found on the internet, or even used by official Petah Tikva organizations. Jayjg (talk) 16:00, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanized spelling

message: In the entry for Holon we read "Holon has the second biggest industrial zone in Israel after Haifa"
For Petah Tikva "Petah Tikva is known for being the city with the second largest industrial sector in Israel (after Haifa)"
Which one is it????
:I don't have a source but I believe Petah Tikva's industrial sector is larger than Holon's. Holon's article may be referring to the physical size of the industrial zone (although I think there are a few bigger ones, like in Rishon and that independent industrial zone in the north). I am also rather curious, now that you bring it up. --  Ynhockey (Talk) 14:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  biggest/largest industrial zone 

message: I heard that they broke the record on Yom Haatzmaut (I was there but got there late and was therefore not counted), but I don't know of any sources that confirm or deny this. Anyone know of either? Valley2city 18:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actually Worlds Largest Picnic? 

message: Could someone please tell me what "fl. in Petah Tikva" means?--Gilabrand 06:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it means 'flourished', which is relevant but I admit, strange. I support changing this to something more understandable. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what does this mean? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:PetahTiqwaLogo.PNG

message: I live in Petah Tikva, and suppose that photos (Photos of Petah Tikva) added recently do not show anything that could appropriately represent modern look of Petah Tikva. Except, maybe, the bridge - but still photos of it could be better. Stansult 11:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: The official name is Petach Tikva - the name of the article should be changed accordingly. Deror 16:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no "official" name in English. There are various transliterations, chosen by whatever secretary happens to be around when they print up the stationary. The current spelling is as good as any. There is no "het" in English, and no agreed upon equivalent for that. Some people write h, some people write ch, some people write x, some people write h with a dot under it. --Gilabrand 16:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Israeli Central Bureau Statistics uses the official transliteration of Petah Tiqwa, the municipality has a different "offical" version of Petach Tikva - it should be either of those and not the one currently used. Deror 16:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I disagree, for the reasons stated above. The spelling of Hebrew place names is entirely arbitrary. You will find the same name spelled ten different ways, even on the muncipality sites.--Gilabrand 17:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The municipality wouldn't have registered the domain petah-tikva.muni.il if they didn't think this was the spelling at the time. However, Gilabrand makes an absolutely correct point when she says that the 'official' name is whatever is chosen by whatever secretary happens to be around at the time. When there's a clear official name, it can be used, but otherwise, see WP:COMMONNAME, as in this case. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Name  

message: I disamgibuated this by linking to the moshava article. While moshava is often translated as 'colony', today this is mostly a deprecated term and more and more translators have begun to use the term 'settlement', in light of POV (neutrality) problems with the word 'colony' in the post-colonial world. A single external source, even if it satisfies WP:RS, has little bearing on the name/translation/transliteration that should be used on Wikipedia - see WP:NC and especially WP:COMMONNAME. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Em HaMoshavot 

message: the first five familys who came to petach tikva was related cuz the wifes was sysres, one of them was never  posted in the hystory of the city, his name  HANOCH ZUNDEL SALANT  he was my grand father father , the wife died in reshon le ztion , and barried next to the old synagog in the middle of the city, he died in petac tikva from maleria i think, my grand father was 13 when his father died his sybiling went to america he went to hungary and lived ther until 1959 when the hungarian gov. kicked him out, that saved his life and my grand mother, he came to petach tikva where his cusin SHTAMPER was the mayer, i would like to add HANOCH ZUNDEL SALANT to the hystory of the city of petach tikva .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.219.229.124 (talk) 22:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  first familys in petach tikva 

message: I do not know what your criteria for famous residents are, but today I found out from his father's obituary that Benjamin Netanyahu's mother Tzila Segal was born in "Petach Tikva;" and from a short bio that David Ben Gurion's first job in Israel was picking oranges there.
50.0.36.190 (talk) 08:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Residents 

message: > ...10.6 km (6.59 mi) east of Tel Aviv.
I'm not sure how the distance from Tel-Aviv in the lead was calculated. However, Ramat Hachayal is much closer to Petach Tikva than this. OR looking at Google Maps, shows it is about 1 km. 109.186.94.214 (talk) 01:52, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The usual way to specify the distance between two cities is the distance between the city centers.  Not the distance between their nearest fringes.  It has the advantage of rarely changing over time.  However, I don't know if this is a Wikipedia style requirement (a place to ask would be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style).  On the other hand, it could be notable that the cities have grown so much that they almost touch, and this could be added in the article somewhere.  But make sure you are looking at an official part of TA-Y, not just to part of the larger extended built-up area. Zerotalk 03:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, the distance in a straight line between centres. Occasionally distances may be given by main road, shortest road, practicable sea-route etc, but if other than a straight line the method must be described. If boundaries of settlements adjoin, whether built up to or not, it would be rather futile giving the distance as zero. SovalValtos (talk) 08:05, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distance from Tel Aviv 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Moved to Fajja (141/165):
* : It refers to Feja, and gives  NIG 19102–7/66585–9; OIG 14102–7/16585–9)
* NIG 19024–5/66519–24; OIG 14024–5/16519–24), but refers to Kaplan and  Cohen  at Fajja
*Moved to Kfar Avraham (looks slightly west of Fajja, at (140/165)? on Wikipedia, but north of Fajja, according to the hadashot-esi.org.il):
* (119147–94/666373–80)
*   19125–35/66644–60
*  191005–26/665910–34
*Firstly: To me it looks as if there is  a typo in the first NIG number in Bouchenino, 2012? 
*Secondly, some of the   Kfar Avraham articles looks awfully close to  Fajja ..Nagorsky, 2015 has identical grid  (if we had only counted 3  numbers.) Shall we treat Kfar Avraham/Fajja as one area?
*Thirdly, shall me move the other Mahane Yehuda articles (see below) to Fajja, too? Mahane Yehuda  is south of Kfar Avraham, south−west of Fajja. Comments? Huldra (talk) 21:59, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hadashot Arkheologiyot articles, where do they belong? 

message: User:Gilabrand: those paragraphs you removed were all sources referred to in Marom, 2019. 
Also, AFAIK you are still topic banned from the I/P area. IMO, removing sourced non-Israeli history from the article breaks that topic ban. If you do it again, expect me to file an AE report, Huldra (talk) 22:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removals of non-Jewish history