Template talk:USLightRail

message: I guess my real question is why are they included? Non-full-time tourist operations seem outside the purpose of this navbox, which is meant to link similar systems from around the country, for comparative purposes. Heritage streetcars aren't in that same category of comparison. It's similar to the omission of tourist trains from the :Template:USCommRail. Indeed, these heritage streetcars have far more in common with such tourist trains than full-forged modern (or modernized) systems.oknazevad (talk) 01:31, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There are people (mainly railfans) who are interested in all streetcar operations – real streetcars, as opposed to the fake streetcars that can now be found in virtually every medium-sized or larger city in the U.S. – whether tourist-oriented or not, so there is some value in having these in one navbox. Those listed here are all located in cities, not in rural areas as most museum operations are, another attribute they share with the full-time, transit-type streetcar (and light rail) operations.  Some of them do provide a transit-type service (actually carrying people between destinations), not just excursion-type rides, on the days they operate (the Astoria Riverfront Trolley is an example where I've observed this for myself; the line has numerous marked stops, like a bus line), so it can be difficult to draw a hard line distinguishing them.  The italicized note is an attempt at such a delineation, but not everyone will agree on which systems to include in which group.  Distinguishing light rail systems from streetcar systems is even more difficult – especially when the U.S. now has new streetcar systems using modern, low-floor vehicles (just two systems so far, as of 2012, but four more are under construction), so making a separate navbox just for streetcar systems would be impractical; some people would argue endlessly about whether Toronto and San Francisco should be listed, for example.  Anyway, I do see value in including all the urban heritage streetcar lines, as there really are relatively very few of these, whereas trolley-replica buses are everywhere, probably operating in 200 or more U.S. cities (sigh). SJ Morg (talk) 11:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourist line inclusion 

message: we seem to be seeing different things with this template due to varying display widths. I'm on a 1368-pixel display and have about half a line's worth of whitespace on the right hand side; Oknazevad, I believed you're seeing a lot more. What's the best way so fix this so it displays well for everyone? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure, honestly. I'm looking at it on an iPhone, and it creates a large enough whitespace that the bottom of the group for Washington state is even with the middle of Minnesota. Whereas, if the group for St Louis Metrolink is moved to the right column, all I see is a thin sliver of white on the bottom of the left column, easily overlooked. How to resolve that, I don't know. Obviously it's a difference in rendering based on screen resolution. Hm, anyone else have any ideas? oknazevad (talk) 00:44, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

text: I believe I have a similar screen size as  and I'm seeing the same thing. I also checked on my phone. On my iPhone 5S the "old" and "new" versions look virtually identical (about one whole line of white space) except that the white space is on one side or the other depending on version. Lost on  Belmont 3200N1000W  (talk) 01:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Columns and whitespace 

message: Because APTA lists the eBART line as a commuter rail system, not a light rail system, I am proposing to move the link to it from this template to the commuter rail template template. Please chime in with opinions on the eBart talk page. --Jfruh (talk) 16:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  eBart