Talk:Pain scale

message: I've trimmed out a lot of the pain scales - I tried to leave only referenced scales that had pubmed sources, and only sources that were 'validations' rather than just mentioning the scale was used.  Notable and widely-used scales should be validated in peer-reviewed journals in some way, while the ones that are only used by a couple doctors or hospitals probably shouldn't be here.  Of course, it's a tricky subject and call to make, and I could have made errors.  All the  bullets I searched on pubmed and google scholar for a relevant article and removed the ones that didn't seem to have one.  WLU (talk) 16:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trim 

message: This article should comment on an essential problem with self-ratings of pain by cognitively competent adults.
Because pain is subjective, absolute intensity of pain cannot be described by a person. What is operationally more useful is a patient's ranking of a combination of intensity of suffering and of impact on function relative to prior experiences with pain. The impact of events upon pain level can then be quantified by comparing a new report with a prior one: for example, pain that formerly demanded notice most of the time but that did not substantially interfere with ability to focus on other matters may have increased to being a major distraction or may have decreased to nuisance-level. This approach is self-calibrating, adjusting the patient's report for cultural, gender and personal attitudes and styles. Somehow this concept should be reflected in the article.Myron (talk) 15:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your comment, and think you should probably incorporate it in the article. However, there is a second way for clinicians to have an insight into the subjective pain suffered by a patient, and that's through the self-assessment of relief caused by different anaesthetics. As I introduced in the article, pain is a qualia; but even when that notion has a direct impact on whether a pain scale can be valid, it has no consequence whatsoever on the medical practices. I think if both your paragraph and mine are combined, the page will provide more information along with a broader scope of notions that need to be taken into consideration. I dare not edit the page since I'm no doctor; but I'm a researcher in state-of-the-art medical technologies, I deal with doctors and patients on a daily basis, and I think I have at least a minor (maybe tiny) grasp on the subject. Maybe the whole conversation should be revised by an expert.
Jordissim (talk) 22:28, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absolute vs. Relative Rating 

message: Could someone possibly write out the treatments administered by US emergency rooms and hospitals in response to a "rate your pain from 1 to 10" self-test? Having unfortunately ended up in hospitals and ERs way more often than I would like, I have personally noticed that American doctors and nurses seem to expect exaggeration of pain, while my own Eastern European culture and the accompanying machismo&devil-may-care attitude lead to far lower self-estimates. Results? As a teenager, I had been released twice after surgery in a barely-conscious haze of pain, throwing up and passing out all the time, and never really complained, because I had the expectation that it was as it was supposed to be (I mean, getting your gut opened up has gotta hurt, right?!). Then, as a young adult, I had the dubious pleasure of yet another major surgery, and this time, I tried giving them the answers I'd expect a young American to give for my pain levels. Result? Only started feeling minor discomfort on day two at home, once whatever they IVed me with wore off entirely. Felt like a human being, walked around instead of crawling around, slept nearly normally, and even felt guilty for missing work for an entire week. Aadieu (talk) 16:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-test confusing in cultural & gender role context 

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