Talk:Roy Kellerman

message: I have made revisions to this page and will post extensive citations within the next 72 hours. 71.178.246.67 (talk) 03:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: If Roy Kellerman's actions are going to be criticized we need correct citations. For example, we don't know (from this article) how much of his training was directed towards what he was supposed to do when in the car. For example, did his training include 'taking a bullet' by clambering over the Connolies - who were between him and the president, or being the eyes and ears for the driver.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.81.85 (talk) 06:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: Kellerman is out of frame in the infobox photo. Doesn't any free photo of him exist? Ou phrontis (talk) 03:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiMedia does have another photograph of the motorcade, taken from the other side. Kellerman's face is in shadows, but at least he's in the picture. Why wasn't that photo used, instead? Steinireyk (talk) 15:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not in photograph 

message: The section "Controller of evidence" currently states:
:Kellerman's report and later testimony indicate that he was with the president without interruption from the motorcade's departure from Love Field, through the entire autopsy and embalming and up until the president's remains were brought back to the White House. In photographs and footage of the casket being loaded aboard Air Force One at Love Field, and later upon its arrival at Andrews Air Force Base, Kellerman can be seen directing the movements of the president's casket.
:Kellerman maintained his composure immediately after Kennedy's assassination, managing events as they continued to develop. Kellerman testified that he played a role in the autopsy at Bethesda, including guiding the doctors toward specific conclusions regarding bullet locations.MD 56 - Kellerman-Purdy HSCA Interview, ARRB Master Set of Medical Exhibits, August 24–25, 1977, p. 4. Kellerman also took personal custody of the X-rays and photographic negatives at the conclusion of the autopsy and took them with him as he rode in the ambulance that transported the President's casket to the White House.MD 56 - Kellerman-Purdy HSCA Interview, ARRB Master Set of Medical Exhibits, August 24–25, 1977, pp. 6-7. When asked by the House Select Committee on Assassinations staff why he wanted this material, he said "...the point is, he was our man, everything belonged in the White House."MD 56 - Kellerman-Purdy HSCA Interview, ARRB Master Set of Medical Exhibits, August 24–25, 1977, p. 7.
:With Kellerman in charge of local events, and with the assistance of Greer, the Secret Service maintained custody of the most important evidence of the crime, including the president's body, clothing, limousine, forensic tissues, and autopsy photographs and X-rays, returning everything to the White House before the sun rose on November 23, 1963.
I removed this passage as most of it is uncited and the cited material is stringing together primary source material for some weird conclusion. Kellerman was aware that there was a bullet that "didn't explode" and he asked Finck who was probing JFK's "shoulder" if he was aware of it and may it have come out via cardiac massage. It's understandable that Kellerman was trying to figure out what had happened, but it's bizarre that anyone would actually think that he was trying to convince Finck that the "pristine bullet" was stuck in Kennedy and came out via cardiac massage. I've seen a lot of WP:OR/WP:SYNTH and bad cherry-picking in the JFK articles, but this is some of the worst. -Location (talk) 15:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research