Talk:Television licensing in the United Kingdom (historical)

message: Removed chart as it is original research. The creator could simply be promoting his or her agenda with biased analysis. We don't know if his or her methodology is valid.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.87.240 (talk) 08:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You provided no explanation as to why the methodology is not valid, nor what "agenda" you think is being "promoted." Given that the creator Briantist is still active on Wikipedia, why not ask them for their methodology before arbitrarily deleting something you don't like? Nick Cooper (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whatever the methodology it is original research which shouldn't really be in a wikipedia article. Maybe it would be more sensible if one wants to compare relative costs, to find some references to average monthly wages in the past. 195.194.15.1 (talk) 13:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Simple calculations on accepted parameters are not original research. Nick Cooper (talk) 17:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the calculations are so simple, can you explain why the green line, which supposedly represents the 'licence split by C/BW' (here I assume C is colour and BW is Black and White), stretches back before the invention of the colour TV and converges on the radio licence line. Even in its own terms the graph is confusing.193.105.48.21 (talk) 10:59, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

text:  Why not ask the editor who created the chart? That said, I suspect that in pre-Colour years that line is actually showing the split between radio & TV licences. Nick Cooper (talk) 14:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not OR, it's all source from the BBC and TV Licensing site.  The split line is Split C/BW or BW/radio.    This is a calculation AA28*G28+(1-AA28)*F28.  It splits when radio licence was abolished in 1970.  It's not Original Research, it's DATA!  BRIANTIST  (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's the development of radio as a graph, using figures from the same article page.   BRIANTIST  (talk) 16:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just to avoid any idea that there is any agenda here other than clear display of data about the subject, I have added the explanatory text: The computed split is the simple value for the total of the licences issued (at whatever price) divided by the number sold..  OR my donkey.   BRIANTIST  (talk) 17:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is the chart accurate? I used the following site to calculate inflation adjusted value of the licence fee from 1946 and got the result £73.01: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html . This site http://www.hl.co.uk/news/calculators/inflation-calculator gives a lower value -  £64 for 1948 - which still disagrees with the chart193.105.48.21 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also the chart implies zero inflation between 1946-1950 which is definitely not the case. 193.105.48.20 (talk) 09:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  See also the opening line of this reference: https://fullfact.org/factchecks/tv_licence_cases_magistrates_courts-29166 193.105.48.20 (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  The chart also shows an increase in licence fee in 1981 but that is not the case in the table of values.193.105.48.21 (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed chart