Talk:Lux Aeterna (Mansell)

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Rfadost.jpg

message: I don't think that Requiem for a Tower counts as a remix of Lux Aeterna.  The producers of the remix album appeared to have been thinking the same thing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.174.168 (talk) 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requiem for a Dream: Remixes

message: "A youtube video background sound for the Hungarian weightlifting accident in Beijing ."
I don't see how this is really notable. Is this an official or homemade video?Unusual Gazelle 19:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youtube 

message: I'm pretty sure in the second season of Heroes, in the scenes where Hiro is in 16th century Japan, you can hear part of Lux Aeterna playing in the background.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.131.48 (talk) 00:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Heroes

message: Although this issue has been discussed before, I strongly believe that this article should be merged with Requiem for a Dream (soundtrack).  It is best to avoid spreading out similar information over several articles, which is what is happening at the moment.  If the articles did merge, Lux Aeterna (Requiem for a Dream) would redirect to Requiem for a Dream (soundtrack), so it would not spoil the flow of a search on Lux Aeterna (Requiem for a Dream). --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Support the plan. I guess if no one else says anything just do it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Personally, I think having all this Lux Aeterna usage in popular culture and such would compromise the unity and focus of the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack article. If you, or anyone, have an elegant solution, feel free to pipe up. Currently, while I don't oppose, nor do I support the proposal, per se; I'm leaning towards oppose. Qwerty (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, note the discussion above. Qwerty (talk) 17:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion above is noted, but on balance I believe that a single redirect to Requiem for a Dream (soundtrack) would be a better solution. One of the things that I intend to do is to slim down the excessive list of appearances of the orchestral version in film trailers etc. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:05, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Limiting the mentions to those referenced in reliable sources should take care of the length issue. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm against the proposal, even though I know it's most probably a vain effort. It's notable enough to have its own page. (And, you can categorize this page with "Theme music", but not the RfaD soundtrack article. :D) Qwerty (talk) 07:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where are the sources that prove notability? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 14:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is little doubt that the orchestral version of Lux Aeterna (aka Requiem for a Tower) has been used in numerous film and television trailers.  A quick look around YouTube will confirm this.  The main reason for merging the articles is to ensure continuity without splitting the same information across more than one article. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Im firmly against it. The song is by far notable enough to have its own entry, its used all over the place not just in the film aspect. Information is duplicated all over wikipedia its about notability not duplication of information that articles should have there own pages. There is too much information in this article to clutter up the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack page.--Prophesy (talk) 01:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

text: At the moment, the article is a short paragraph about the piece itself, followed by a bloated and badly written list of WP:TRIVIA appearances of the piece in film trailers etc.  This needs some serious pruning, because it looks amateurish and there is no way of knowing how accurate some of the appearances are.  Nobody is denying that the orchestral version is notable, but whether it needs its own article is debatable. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jugging simply by how many times the uses section has had to be cut down id say it is easily wildly used enough to merit its own article. Yes this article amounts to a list and is messy, it could do with pruning at least a decent rewrite at best but I feel the song itself still needs an article of its own.--Prophesy (talk) 19:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the problems here is that the article title of Lux Aeterna (Requiem for a Dream) is misleading.  When people refer to this piece in the context of film trailers etc, what they usually mean is Requiem for a Tower - Movement IV by Corner Stone Cues.  This piece does not appear on the original soundtrack album of Requiem for a Dream, and is a reworking of Lux Aeterna for orchestra and choir. If strict compliance with Wikipedia rules was enforced here, most of the appearances in trailers etc would be removed due to problems with WP:TRIVIA and WP:V. This is a common problem with "In popular culture" sections, because everybody wades in and adds more examples than are really necessary.  It is enough to say that the piece has been used in numerous film and television trailers and to leave it at that. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 21:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: The article is becoming little more than a trivia magnet, with far too many non-notable and unsourced mentions of where the piece can be found.  There are now strong grounds for merging this article with the main soundtrack article as soon as possible.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I realise that some people love to compile lists, but please bear in mind that WP:LISTCRUFT is discouraged on Wikipedia. Also, the article title is misleading, because most of the "in popular culture" references are to the orchestra/choir version "Requiem for a Tower" which does not appear in the film Requiem for a Dream.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:TRIVIA]] tagging

message: The Baltimore Ravens website is currently using Lux Aeterna as part of the movie which plays upon opening the homepage (background to highlight clips, presented by Miller Lite).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.176.69 (talk) 19:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports 

message: Is anyone able to identify the version used for the Canon Powershot commercial?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghee22 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canon commercial, version identified? 

message: OK so I just heard this music on the Flash Forward promo.  I found the music on youtube, 2 different versions - Requiem for a Dream and Requiem for a Tower - both over 6 minutes long.  Then I went to amazon to try to find the music, and the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack has a 4 minute version of the song.  The Requiem for a Tower downloads are all less than one minute long.  Huh?  Where can I buy the 6:30 version of the song?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weakipedist (talk • contribs) 04:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure the versions you heard on YouTube were looped. Podex (talk) 02:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not looped. My version comes in at 6:34, which I assume is the version you are alluding to. Far be it from me to give you places to illegally download it, but sufficient searching should find you a purchase location. RadicalTwo (talk) 03:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that the six minute version is not available commercially. There are downloads of it on the web, but are "unofficial" as the saying goes.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where to buy this music? 

message: OK, the list of appearances is getting out of hand. I propose, and am going, to cull most of the lists. My criteria for something staying will be : a) if it been in an officially released trailer (film or video games with a Wiki entry) b) main theme tune for a TV show c) main theme in an advert. Anything that's just used as background music I'm gonna cull. So all those entries for TV shows that have used - and quite literally this list could be a 1000 titles long if someone wanted to spend their time hunting these down - will go. Similarly music used just as entrance music, etc for sport teams is going. Quite frankly, the piece has been used tens of thousands of time now, most for a few seconds for just background. TV trailers are ten a penny, and put together for a show plug, that, once the show has started, is instantly forgotten. 
Strictly, most everything that doesn't have a cite or ref should go, but I'll see if someone will add these to the shortened list. The Yeti (talk) 00:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If everything that was unsourced or a list was removed, the article would end up so short that it might face a deletion debate. I have always felt that the article title is misleading anyway, because the vast majority of appearances of this piece in video games etc are Requiem for a Tower, which does not appear in the soundtrack of the 2000 film. A few paragraphs noting the use of the adapted version in film trailers in Requiem for a Dream (soundtrack) would be my preferred choice, but I don't want to edit war or become involved in endless debates.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Requiem for a Tower does at least redirect here. Although I agree a merger with the RfaD Soundtrack is probably preferable, its been debated twice (above) with no consensus being reached. The Yeti (talk) 02:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Culling

message: Is the music choice of one madman really significant enough to be put on here?Stanislao Avogadro (talk) 16:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the link to the new   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.154.16.106 (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:2011_Norway_attacks/Archive_2#Breivik_.22listened_to_film_music_from_The_Lord_of_the_Rings.22. There is some notability, but not for this article. The media was also wrong to say that he listened to this piece during the attack, when this is speculative.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:34, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Re this edit. Wikipedia is not censored, but in view of the relatively short length of this article, a whole paragraph about Breivik saying that he might listen to the piece during the attack is undue weight. This information would fit in better in an article about the attack.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 04:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anders Breivik 

message: Is the title of the song meant to be rendered as "Lux Aeterna" or as "Lux Æterna"? I've seen both, sometimes on the same page. The variation with "Ae" has many more hits on Google, but does this reflect the correct title or just people avoiding the ligature for convenience? --Alx xlA (talk) 06:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The track listing on the soundtrack CD would be the best guide. Since I don't own this, can anyone help here?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: After some online searching, here is the track listing of the soundtrack CD, which uses the spelling "Lux Aeterna" (no ligature).--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:55, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Title?