Talk:Ernst Kaltenbrunner

message: Any information about the scar on his face? Fencing injury or something like that? -- 199.33.32.40 00:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The scar 

message: Is there any proof that Kaltenbrunner used to smoke 80-100 cigarettes a day? I mean I have never seen a photo of him smoking (if someone saw one, please give me a link) and I dont think it is possible for any man to smoke such an amount of cigarettes, even for such a big and strong guy as Kaltenbrunner. Besides, we should consider the fact that 70 years ago there were hardly any good filters and harm to health was much greater than now.
I think there's a pic of him smoking in his cell in Nuremberg, it's in one of the zillion or so books on the subject. I have heard of five pack a day smokers in this day and age, wo who knows if the # was exagerrated or not?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.30.181 (talk) 23:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smoking 

message: I heard Ernst was married to Elisabeth eder who was born Oct.20th 1908 and married on Jan.14th 1934.She became member of NS frauenschaft # 301,490.The couple also had 3 kids.The oldest was a son born on Feb.28th 1935 the middle was a girl born on July.25th 1937 the youngest who was a boy was born in 1940.In the end of the war Kaltenbrunner had a misstress named Gissela von Westrap(nee wolf) she bore him two kids twins.When they found his house they saw him get hugged and kissed him they knew they found him.his kids are alive still.
                     
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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.188.164.84 (talk) 01:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His wife and Mistress 

message: The article states that Ernst Kaltenbrunner was a recipient of the Knight's Cross. However he is not listed in Fellgiebell, thus we can safely assume that he never received the Knight's Cross.MisterBee1966 18:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross]] 

message: Someone might want to check out Ernst Kaltenbrunners Birthdate. He was only 3 years old when he died??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.216.114.73 (talk) 23:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are looking at time in office, not lifetime````  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoriceXII (talk • contribs) 19:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ernst Kaltenbrunner Birth Date 

message: I added this back in. Someone not a registered user removed it. Please do not remove again without discussion.Mtsmallwood (talk) 06:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What does this actually add to the article? We know he is dead, we know he was executed, do we really need to see an image of his corpse? I don't have a problem with linking to the image (provided the link makes the nature of the image clear), so that people who want to look at it can. But adding it to the article just seems gratuitous. It will make many readers uncomfortable, and with no clear benefit in doing so. SJK (talk) 08:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely disagree. Keep it. HammerFilmFan (talk) 20:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

text: Completely disagree; keep it. Kaltenbrunner's actions should make people uncomfortable, not the picture of his decrepit corpse. 190.194.223.134 (talk) 20:06, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Disagree with removal. Photos of the horrors of the actions of Kaltenbrunner, and other Nazis are shown in photos in related articles, no reason not to show justice being served herein. Kierzek (talk) 01:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

text: It was pretty common in the late 40s to have WWII books with plenty of pictures of their trials and their corpses. Honestly, any book on war will have horrible images, get used to it. What happenned to the color photo of Kaltenbrunner in high resolution? We now have two images of him with the headphones on the page, i think we should go back to the color photo again. Add photos, don't delete them, please.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.31.165.138 (talk) 01:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Kaltenbrunner body 

message: The intro lists his death as 17th November 1956. Yet further down the article it says he was executed on 16th October 1946.
2001:470:1F0B:8FF:230:1BFF:FEBC:C47D (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death? 

message: I know before I say this that there is a reference for what is currently on the wiki page.  But the reference is also making a mistake, as I will now demonstrate.
Currently, in the "Dates of Rank" section it says that Kaltenbrunner was promoted to Untersturmfuhrer in 1940.  But that would mean that he took a huge demotion from his previous rank of Gruppenfuhrer in 1938.  Such a notable demotion would warrant its own section in the main article!
I tried to contact the referenced website, but the email listed there for "contact us" is no longer in use.  So this should really be changed, which is why I'm taking that one line out.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:142E:2CD9:742C:6A7D:A5E2:193E (talk) 22:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand the confusion-the July 1940 rank was a reserve officer rank; not a Allgemeine-SS (General SS) rank. An SS officer could have different ranks for different branches of the SS. Hermann Fegelein, for example did, as well. Kierzek (talk) 22:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in promotions timeline 

message: Ernst was raised Catholic but he identified as Gottgläubig, so his religious affiliation should be changed. 83.128.72.82 (talk) 11:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Again that may be so, but it is not covered in this article (thus far) and needs to be cited. Kierzek (talk) 21:29, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As a fanatical Nazi, he wouldn't have remained Catholic - instead, especially as an SS man, he would have (nominally) been a part of the pagan sword-and-swastika cult. Jesus Christ would not have been part of his spiritual make-up.50.111.51.247 (talk) 23:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: and  - Gents, I've done a little work on this one but in the absence of the outstanding biographical work from Peter Black on Kaltenbrunner, this article still needs lots of holes filled. Please feel free to hack away at it but I have a couple of questions nonetheless -- why the extensive list of rank dates and awards? This seems unjustifiable to me and more like glorification of the figure. Who really cares about what Nazi awards he received and the date of every promotion besides Neo-Nazis? Also -- why two pictures of him touring Mauthausen? -- one seems enough. Just my thoughts.--Obenritter (talk) 07:26, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the work. FYI: For major figures such as Hermann Göring, Kaltenbrunner and others, ranks and "awards" are included; as one would find in any RS biography and actually, as you know, RS books on the SS cover such information, as well. It has no agenda attached to it. As for the photos from Mauthausen, I added the second one which is more of a close-up photo; there are not that many photos of Kaltenbrunner and why not include both? Especially since he was a mass murder and had the gall to deny he was ever there when he testified under oath, after the war; he would not even admit to his own war crimes. Glad he faced the hangman. Kierzek (talk) 14:26, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. It just seems like the major milestones in his life/career should appear in the narrative vice being listed in such exhaustive detail. It's not a big deal to me, but I just don't care for the way this looks to the average reader. Many of these awards have dubious distinctions behind them. If this is what has been standard for these major Nazi figures in Wikipedia, I'll acquiesce accordingly.--Obenritter (talk) 17:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You raise good points to be remembered. I only have the same two RS source books you used, plus Miller's RS book, so I really cannot add anymore than you have; in fact that is originally why I asked if you would have a look as I hoped you could expand the article. Anyway, again thanks for the work here. Kierzek (talk) 18:05, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. Without a solid biography on Kaltenbrunner however, it is tough to find much on him. Most sources barely mention him and if they do, it is generally regarding his post as head of the RSHA as a replacement for Heydrich. While I have not encountered a lot of additional detail, I've added some minor granularity. Perhaps we'll get lucky and some editor who owns the Kaltenbrunner bio by Peter Black will fatten this article up in the future. For now, I think I'll start digging through some academic journals to see what's out there.--Obenritter (talk) 18:42, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Clean-Up 

message: I believe that the aspect ratio of the infobox image in this article is such that presented at the infobox's default value it is too large, the visual equivalent of SHOUTING.  I suggest that the current size is more appropriate. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox image size

message: "President of the ICPC" - he was President of the "International Criminal Police Organization" from 1943 to 1945? INTERNATIONAL? Are you kidding? 80.151.9.187 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 11:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Interpol wasn't a force during the war, and was later purged/re-organized. It's sourced - so, no, no one is 'kidding' you.50.111.51.247 (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox