Talk:Robert Benchley

message: Wasn't Robert Benchley cremated? I remember reading that in his biography. I guess it is possible the ashes were buried at the family plot.--Mantanmoreland 16:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes he was cremated (according to Billy Altman bio). Would be good to add that... I assume his grandson Peter Benchley will also join him in the family plot, RIP. -- k72ndst 02:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: cremation

message: The earliest sourced appearance of the Venice telegram quotation is "Streets full of water, Advise."  As told by David Niven in the Saturday Evening Post, July 19, 1958, page 13. David Trumbull (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visit to Venice 

message: This article cries out for a bibliography. --Silverscreen 15:25, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography needed 

message: Just a note to say that the other day I did a bit of cleanup, as can be seen from the history. This was a fine author of great consequence to modern literary history, and I hope that this article can be substantially expanded. There is a rich array of source material including several biographies. Also this article really cries out for a full bibliography. --Silverscreen 15:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm working on compiling some stuff as we speak.  I'm currently knee-deep in another article project, but this is next on my list. --badlydrawnjeff talk 15:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here, and will help out when I can. I have a bio of Benchley somewhere in the house.--Silverscreen 17:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: If anyone can help:
# Public domain image of RB for identification in infobox.  I may be able to fulfill this once I hear back from his grandson again.
# Completing List of Robert Benchley collections and film appearances.
# A better, more complete, copyedit.
#A worthwhile lead.
--badlydrawnjeff talk 03:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current to-do list

message: The article could use an infobox (look to similar passed GA/FAs for examples) and I saw one sentence that has a "citation needed" tag. That will have to be addressed, or someone may quick-fail the article. --Nehrams2020 18:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Already settled, didn't notice it when I was doing my runthroughs.  Infoboxes aren't really necessary in all cases, and I'm not sure that this article really needs it, but we didn't have images before that. --badlydrawnjeff talk 18:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it couldn't use an infobox. Infoboxes are useful for distinguishing among the apparently homogenous (such as Japanese aidoru tarento; consider this for example. Anyone who insists that a GA bio (such as Hiroh Kikai) or an FA bio (e.g. W. B. Yeats) needs an infobox [I always think of these people as male] may need larting, I mean reeducating. -- Hoary 05:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA comment

message: I used most of your suggestions, Hoary.  The one about "an academic failure," however, should stay put as the failure is singular.  That's my thought process, at least. --badlydrawnjeff talk 00:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Round Two

message: Benchley had a supporting role in and was a co-writer of Alfred Hitchcock's film Foreign Correspondent.  I should think that an appearance and contribution in a Hitchcock movie would warrant a mention in this article. Green451 19:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Somewhat surprisingly, it doesn't get much narrative mention.  I do note it in the list subpage, however. --badlydrawnjeff talk 19:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Foreign Correspondent (film)|Foreign Correspondent]] Appearance 

message: I just reviewed this article and accepted it as a Good Article (easily met all criteria in my opinion). Well done everyone. Tomgreeny 02:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Artcile 

message: This article is really excellent, and kudos need to be extended to Badlydrawnjeff for his work on it. One suggestion is that it really needs photos. The photo in the information box is far too dark. There are many good photos of Benchley taken from screen shots of his movies and/or publicity photos. Can't one of them be used?--Silverscreen 14:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographs 

message: It's interesting that this article doesn't even mention several huge aspects of his life.  First, that his relationship with Dorothy Parker was extremely tight, to a degree that Benchley's wife was jealous and resentful their entire lives. Whether they were ever romantically involved is up for debate, but their friendship was a rare fine one and was a defining facet of their lives until the '30s.  Second, Benchley was a notorious teetotaler -- this, during prohibition, when illegal drinking defined the NY social life he was part of.  When he was finally persuaded to try a drink, it changed his life.  He became a notorious alcoholic, and essentially died of cirrhosis.  Finally, despite marrying his childhood sweetheart and having the image of the devoted suburban family man, he was as famous for his series of mistresses and affairs as he was for his humor; no less than Tallulah Bankhead was one such affair. Once he started performing on Broadway, he essentially started living apart from his family in NYC while they stayed ensconced in the suburbs. He was always broke, always borrowing money, living hand-to-mouth as many of the Algonquin set did -- first from being a poor underpaid writer, later from being a spendthrift.  As he started down this path around the time of No Sirree, Benchley's life changed dramatically. He was simultaneously the charachter he developed -- sweet, slightly befuddled, hyper-normal -- AND its opposite.  He was a much more interesting, complicated person than this article implies.  While I realize this is an encylopedia article and not a biography, it seems that something besides a dry chronology and a few quotations would be in order.  You may ask why I don't edit the article myself ... well, I would, except that my books are currently packed up and in storage, so I could not provide citations!  I'm hoping someone else will be able to pick up the gauntlet and fill in these gaps. 172.146.38.113 03:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all very interesting and you should add those details with proper sourcing.--Silverscreen 17:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Silverscreen, if there are sources cited, and if the info is not trivia and speculation. K72ndst 14:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lacking Flavor 

message: AND - where is the story of Robert Benchley's experience at a Massachusetts social party, when trial judge Webster Thayer - in his cups - stated he was "going to get those bastards". Robert knew this was grounds for his dismissal from the case, and tried to get authorities to do so. Thayer had enough clout to get away with this, and continue to preside - over two trials.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.142.167 (talk) 02:08, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sacco and Vanzetti 

message: Today I switched from the generic person info box to a writer box. I'd like to see someone add in the writers who influenced Benchley; I only added in the names of writers who cite him as influencing them. K72ndst 14:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info box 

message: ; Description : The focus of the project would be articles relating to the Algonquin Round Table, including its members and their literary works. 
; Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
# Otto4711 17:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Algonquin Round Table proposal at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals]], please vote!

message: This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Lampman (talk) 23:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps

message: Article quote: "There is no evidence to support speculation that Lillian had an inappropriate relationship with Robert."
This is gallant laundering of history, and bullshit up with which I, for one, am not going to put. Nor will I hit on bait from anyone to "prove it". Persons who refuse to believe the Himalayan, biographical, circumstantial evidence of Benchley-Duryea sexual congress have erected a mental rampart that could not be breached even by 1) documentary film of the two copulating, nor 2) hand written correspondence describing each other's genitalia. So, forget that sneering challenge.  
Rather, let's create a list on this Discussion Page of wealthy debutantes, widowed during their status as a fiance who - rather than getting on with their lives and dating wealthy older men as candidates for marriage - in stead adopted their deceased lover's younger brother as a teenage mascot - household member, plus functioning as a tuition machine to Exeter and Harvard. Surely, there must be a whole bunch of them.
Lillian Duryea RUINED the future, adult sex life of Robert Benchley, his eventual marriage, and his relationship to women generally. About the only woman to whom Benchley could relate with sexual honesty was the brilliant but often suicidal Dorothy Parker.
Signed: Edward M. Chilton, Benchley Society  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.49.241 (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Robert Benchley and Lillian Duryea

message: Campbell Scott potrays Benchley in this film about Dorothy Parker. MBG 119.11.8.183 (talk) 11:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle]] (1994)

message: "...who husbanded Robert to manhood and live-in paramour status before he had even finished high school."
I'm guessing she fucked him, right? AuntFlo (talk) 05:22, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Florid language

message: The correct quote is "One, two, three / Buckle my shoe." The page leaves out "three," which is crucial to the dry humor of the quote. I'll fix this as soon as I can find a proper reference. Doug Ewell 15:24, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Buckle my shoe"