Talk:Staind

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message: The article on Aaron Lewis claims that as of 2006 he is the only member of Staind who is married. The article on other band member, Jon Wysocki, claims marriage. Furthermore, the article on the band Staind claims that all four members are currently married. This obvious discrepancy needs correction. -- 24.92.80.154 03:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discrepancy re Marriages

message: Together, throughout the course of their five albums, fifteen radio hits and progressively maturing career, house-hold name Staind have impacted modern rock, or at least post-grunge / alternative metal of the new millennium in some way.  This is quite possibly the weakest sentence ever written :)  -- 71.67.101.124 04:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm removing that sentence - it's not NPOV. They are not a 'household name', and to say that they have impacted rock music 'in some way' doesn't mean anything at all.  -- 203.214.115.121 01:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weak sentence

message: While I don't consider myself a fan of Staind's music, I do appreciate the typical positivity of their post-Dysfunction lyrics.  Therefore I don't understand why under "Criticism & Controversy" Lewis' lyrics are said to evidence "his continued depression and gloominess".  While the lyrics may often address unpleasant subjects, they tend to do so with a positive, practical attitude.  I mean, seriously, contrast, for example, Lewis' lyrics with Staley and Cantrell's lyrics at the height of Alice in Chains' career...  -- Layeredsurface 08:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mischaracterization of lyrics

message: What brain-dead fan used the term grindcore to describe this band?  -- 70.160.230.17 05:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Obviously someone who is not familiar with grindcore. -- Progkeeg 00:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: * Perhaps grindcore did go a bit too far.  However, their first album was quite heavy.  -- musikxpert 08:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grindcore usage

message: Does the vocalist have a lisp? It kind of sounds like he has a lisp.  -- 72.72.37.187 21:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. Thanks! -- Jreferee 18:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: General discussion about the article's subject

message: "The album sees the band move away from the nu-metal sounds of their previous album and resort to an alternative metal sound that many bands, including Cold, Seether, and Crossfade, have tried to replicate." I edited that sentence because I see little to no evidence suggesting that those bands tried to rip off Staind when they started playing music. Rather they were influenced by the same bands and since Staind became famous there was a renewed interest in bands playing alt. metal. That's like saying Korn "invented" Nu-metal and all the other bands just tried to copy them. -- Reborn stillborn 21:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I've written a section for "It's Been Awhile" seeing that it is probably Staind's most well known song. -- Jason f90 10:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's Been Awhile 

message: Seems that "Right here" link is outdated.. as the user who uploaded it removed the file. A working link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufrf69SZtg
I am sorry but I am new to wikipedia's editing/commenting. There are also others not working after checking. "Everything Changes" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faewCXX1mvo.Plsk1n 0335 22:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video links 

message: staind is a "nu metal" band.  yes, they're not as much as korn, but those who argue are probably saying "oh, but they have like, one nu-metal song, so that doesn't count, right?".  i would have agreed, but that shows that you only bought albums such as break the cycle, chapter v, or 14 shades of grey.  they started out as a nu metal band, and still show some numetal in some of their songs.  like for ex:  in king of all excuses, the middle is a nu-metal, in which aaron lewis starts rapping.  yes, i know songs like "right here" aren't nu-metal, but that doesn't mean they're not nu-metal.  Itachi1452 03:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The album Dysfunction has alot of nu metal elements, especially in the breakdowns. i.e.
1) Nu metal bands often feature aggressive vocals that range from melodic singing akin to pop, rock and pop punk, guttural screaming and shouting from various forms of metal, hardcore punk, and rapping.
2) The final verse is often a climax to the song, has a relatively different sound to the previous two and sometimes is just one line repeated, getting gradually louder. (Suffocate, Just Go, Mudshovel) for examples.Shatterzer0 20:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  nu-metal

message: i believe that Staids page is badly ordered with all the songs stated everywhere, particularly the unreleased songs not even being part of the discography area. i suggest to create a Staid discography page, and move all need info in there. very similar to the Limp Bizkit discography page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HDS (talk • contribs) 00:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: For those of us who don't know how to read the pronunciation symbols, which way is the name of this band pronounced? toll_booth (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why was the pronunciation guide deleted? I, and no doubt a few others, found it useful to be right there at the top of the article. toll_booth (talk) 19:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because everyone knows it's pronounced Stained--Mapsfly (talk) 02:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stained" or "Stand"? 

message: Folks, the official Staind site http://www.staind.com/splash_files/believe.php cites the new albums name as Illusion Of Progress. No "The". So does Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Illusion-Progress-Staind/dp/B001B94K14. Should we wait for the release to see if there's a "The", or change it now? KaBoOM 444 (talk) 01:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The(?) Illusion Of Progress 

message: I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find Johnny April's name.
(ALV)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.143.253 (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about listing the band members at the top?  

message: I'm confused by this section of the article. Staind formed in 1995, and then in 2003 they tried to sue a guy because he had trademarked the name "The Stain" 5 years before they got together? It's a very vague section. Then, it brings up some promises that were made to Stainbrook, but makes no mention of what they are, or how they related to the band. This section needs to be re-written to make some sense. Hukt own fonikz (talk) 18:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trademark infringement 

message: maybe the article shouldn't be written as if Staind didn't exist anymore, Aaron Lewis does say they are on a hiatus (e.g. "Staind was an American rock band")  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.106.102 (talk) 09:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappearance 

message: Please add a "citation needed" tag after where it says "through Aaron's cousin Justin Cantor" because I've never seen that anywhere but Wikipedia, and while it's possible, there is no reference. The change I want is impossible to make in above format. I get that we probably shouldn't request these, but please do so anyway if you agree with me. 104.39.113.217 (talk) 23:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Terra (talk) 02:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit, 30 October 2017

message: I've expanded the WP:LEAD to try to clarify the band's situation a little bit (though it seems its really just one IP hopper who is actively concerned) and I'm still getting pushback (from the same IP hopper.) To outline some of the issues that keep on getting re-added to the article with these unnecessary tweaks to my additions:
# It does not make sense to refer to the band as "mostly inactive since 2011" when the band did multiple North American tours in 2012. I even added sourced content about this in the body too. They were very active in 2012.
# The WP:LEAD is supposed be about brief overview stuff. We don't need to outline how Giancarelli moved from touring member to official member over the span of a couple months. That can be covered in the body. The main point is that he was the new drummer.
# Same idea with the awkward repetition of the word hiatus - people do not usually say things like "is currently in a third hiatus." We dont need to count hiatuses like this. It's not natural sounding.
# The change from the use of the word reiterated to   Lewis  claimed that the band had not broken up,  is also a worse wording choice. Using a word like "claimed" adds a sense of doubt to what he's saying. It's not your place to editorialize like that, especially in the article's opening. 
I'm not saying my version is perfect, just that these sorts of alterations are generally a step in the wrong direction. Sergecross73 msg me 13:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead expansion

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Add information about Confessions of the Fallen and the "Lowest in Me" single to the adequate sections (such as the discography page)
Source: Billboard https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/staind-confessions-of-the-fallen-lowest-in-me-1235309680/ 174.251.135.178 (talk) 21:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request, April 19, 2023 

message: Staind are widely known for their heavier sound as is similarly the case with Three Days Grace, Godsmack, and Mudvayne, They are often associated with Nu Metal, but not as synonymous as Korn or Limp Bizkit, would it be possible to change the title to refer to them as an alternative metal band? PontiacAurora (talk) 23:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: They're also know for many ballads. For bands that get hit with a lot of genre, we often pick a more generic label like "rock" to cut down on the arguing about more specific genre. Otherwise, you'll change it to alt metal, then someone else changes it to hard rock, another guy changes it to nu metal, etc etc. Sergecross73 msg me 23:22, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rock band or Alternative Metal? 

message: The intro paragraph needs their latest album Confessions of the Fallen added, including revising mention of its release later in the article.
https://shop.staindofficial.com/products/confessions-of-the-fallen-digital-album — Preceding unsigned comment added by David.michaelangelo.silva (talk • contribs) 
: Sergecross73 msg me 19:40, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request