Talk:Evanescence/Archive 1

message: I guess the page needs a rewrite, the Christian/Non-Christian debate is mucch to a POV subject and rather irrelevant actually if we want to write facts about the band. Lazarus Long 08:53, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no such thing as a POV subject. And how's it irrelevant? The Evanescence-as-Christian-band thing has been much discussed. Evercat 14:14, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite?

message: I see Ben Moody's been removed... actually *officially* he is still member of the band, I don't know whether he is to be removed from here, or left there (Adding a note saying he left the tour and, probably, the band) until it becomes official Lazarus Long 13:06, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: It's all but official.  Wind-up released a press release regarding his leaving, and Amy says she still doesn't know what he's been doing, but that it was probably for the best. Pipian 16:18, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Ben Moody

message: I thought this might be an interesting place to ask, since a lot of fans seem to be rather emotional about this.
Last year there was a rumor going around that the band don't want the fans to listen to an old demo called "You."  While this song cannot be found on their album, it's as easily available on the file sharing networks as their other unreleased material.  Users of the eMule/eDonkey/Overnet "ed2k" network can download a "discography" which includes everything, including the supposedly forbidden song.
I've searched and searched and can find nothing to validate this rumor.  Evanescence.com has an extensive FAQ, and there is no mention of a forbidden song.  Evanescence do not have a forum, but they do have two contact emails.  Emails sent asking about this went unanswered.  I found a large fan forum, and was banned under three different accounts for merely asking.  This merely made me want to learn more.  I emailed Rolling Stone, and they'd never heard of the rumor.
It seems that this rumor was made up by a fan wanting to see how far it would spread, possibly an admin or mod on the forum which is banning members for asking about it.  That, or the band actually made the request to a small group of people before they got popular, and gave up once they got popular, realizing that the now millions of fans would want to hear it and would not be discouraged by such a request.  But I can't believe that there ever was such a request, if there's no reference of it on any news sites.  When I look up Evanescence news, I can find plenty of sources about when Amy Lee slipped and made the reference to Cold vocalist Scooter Ward's rehabilitation.  Amy Lee learned that she can't really say anything without it being reviewed and picked apart.  So... if she made a request for fans not to listen to a song, wouldn't that be published somewhere?
I'm certainly not trying to convince fans there is no request.  But before you jump down my throat for asking, ask yourself where you heard the rumor, if you did.  Did you read it on a forum?  Did someone tell you on AIM?  Or did you see it on the news or on a reputable site?  I challenge every fan who believes that rumor to prove it's true.
I am a fairly big fan of Evanescence.  I like their sound.  I like a lot of their unreleased songs.  "You" is a decent song, but there's a lot better ones.  It's not my favorite.  I just want to know the truth about it.  Because until I hear more than unsubstantiated rumors from preteen fans, whenever someone tells them they like Evanescence, I'm going to help them get all Evanescence's unreleased stuff.  Not the stuff they've released, mind you.  If they like Evanescence, they owe it to this great band to buy Fallen, and the upcoming live CD/DVD.  If Origin is remastered or just re-released, I'll strike that from the discography disc I give friends, and encourage them to buy that as well.  But there are a lot of old, unreleased songs, and the fans deserve to hear it.  I just want to make it clear that I am against the piracy of good music. Dark Reality
*The request to not hear the forbidden song was made by Ben Moody, a few months before the official message board went under. The song was leaked by their former manager Brad Caviness, whom they've since cut ties with. So, no it's not a rumor. The request did happen. It's just that Ben and Amy wanted to keep it quiet, so a possible uproar wouldn't happen.
I'm with you on the piracy issue. I buy the new stuff, whenever I can afford it. But then there's the older songs, which will never be availible again on any CD. Downloading those isn't piracy, so I say go right ahead. --Beau99 18:06, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The forbidden song rumor 

message: Well, Amy has already said that songs like Understanding, Bleed, Where Will You Go, etc, won't be remade. 
Re: the forbidden song, I'd like to know more about the request as well. However, one mention of it on Evboard results in an instant ban. I like that place too much to risk it. And you're correct that Ben Moody doesn't have any authority over the song, but having spoken to Brad Caviness (the guy who leaked the song) via e-mail, I'd say Ben is correct. --Beau99 09:04, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older Material 

message: To avoid further discussion of this, I'll clear it up.
You was a song made by Amy Lee, and Amy Lee only. It is not an Evanescence song. Amy Lee made it solely for someone very special. However, someone who helped them create Origin the album found out about the song, and many other songs they made. He made a CD out of songs which he shouldn't have, and You was one of them. Eventually the situation was resolved, yet of course, there are now tons of P2P programs where you can download the song from others.
You won't find any articles or interviews of the band regarding this song because the band never gave the issue public attention. Pretty much the only people who know of the song are Evanescence's very dedicated fanbase.
I know of this because the band posted messages about the song on Evboard.com. Those messages are now gone, however. Ben Moody posted that message about the song before he left the band. Isn't that just something that's obvious?
Honestly, if you've been banned numerous times from an Evanescence message board for talking about the song, and even Evboard.com threatens a ban for talking of the song, don't you think it just might not be a rumor? If it was a rumor, people could just explain that. It would be no big deal.
As for mentioning the song in the article, I don't think it should be done at all. Amy Lee wants to keep the song private, and we should respect her wishes. There's no reason why people need to know about it.
Lenne
Agreed. This is Amy Lee's song which was meant to be kept secret. By trying to find out about the song and being banned from sites, that person seems very immature. Obviously, they have heard about the song and how it was FORBIDDEN. Keyword: Forbidden. If it was forbidden, don't you think their might be a reason why. But I agree with Lenne. It should not be mentioned on the article at all because it was supposed to be kept secret. By mentioning it on the article, it is not secret anymore and many people will know about it. So no, do not mention it on the article. It's bad enough that it was leaked out to the public as it is. Fans are not meant to know everything... TearAwayTheFunerealDress 16:18, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the "Forbidden Song" 

message: I know the picture doesn't matter much but I think it would be better if we had a bigger picture, perhaps a larger version of this one or an album cover. Stancel 22:25, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture 

message: I edited out this part of the article.
(Among them you may find the first version of My Immortal (their third Fallen single), which features only the voice of the 16 year old Amy and a piano. It is often labeled as the 'Piano - Vocal' version over the Internet.)
First off, it's inaccurate. The song doesn't just feature Amy Lee's voice and a piano. It's David Hodges playing the piano, and there are background synths/effects. It also has some background vocals by David. Furthermore, it's just useless information. Lenne 15:08, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited Something Out 

message: It would be good if someone could put the band members names as a caption to the image. --Commander Keane 08:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Lenne 02:13, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption for image 

message: An editor of the Gothic metal article has proposed a revision to that page in which he insists that some press reported that Evanescence stole the songs from Fallen from other bands.  He said they were dropped from their label because of it, and that there was a big court case.  Do any of you have any sources for this?  (See the "Current Revision" section in Talk:Gothic metal.) --Idont Havaname 15:10, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the biggest piece of B.S. I've ever heard. --Beau99|talk 00:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stole their songs from other bands? 

message: The External links section is being populated by a lot of fansites.  Per Wikipedia:External links#What should not be linked to, it would be better to link to a directory of fansites, such as Google's.  The Google and Yahoo listings are not that comprehensive, so if somebody can find a list of a lot of Evanescence fansites, we can just put that in instead of a collection of external links.  I did something similar at Danica Patrick recently, and it's helped reduce linkspam.  (IMO, Exodus and EvBoard should stay in just because they are so prominent, but we are not here to advertise people's fan sites.) --Idont Havaname 21:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of fansites in External links 

message: Is this a song by them?  The lyrics point to a song by the title of "You", by Sarina Paris, but i do not believe this is the same song.  Is Liquid Blue actually a song by Evanescence?  If not, what idiot mistitled the song that is now massively distributed? --Psydude 05:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liquid Blue 

message: Removed the "cleanup" tag .  I don't see a very heavy need for it and my rationale is also based on the random IP address that posted the Cleanup tag without a note here on the talk page. Mike Tigas 15:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tag 

message: The article now reads "The word "evanescence" means to dissipate like vapor". This is slightly inaccurate. The word "evanesce" is an intransitive verb meaning "to dissipate like vapor". However, the word "evanescence" is a noun, denoting the event of such a disappearance (example: "the evanescence of the morning mist"). Perhaps it would suffice if the article instead read "The word "evanesce" means to dissipate like vapor", letting the reader figure out the rest himself/herself? -- Grahn 02:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of name 

message: Is it true that Amy Lee did the voice of Fiona in the video game Mercenaries? It says she was voiced by a person named Amy Lee and several people have told me this is the case. If so, do you think we should add infomation about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.84.228.7 (talk • contribs) 
: I doubt it.  IMDB has a different page for that Amy Lee. In fact if you do a search for Amy Lees there you can find another  --2mcmGespräch 09:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mercenaries 

message: I was wondering why other songs by the group, not found on the albums, are not listed? Shouldn't they go under a new header, so at least theres information about them? I not even talking about "you", just a few other songs. 168.122.160.46 07:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other songs 

message: Why is David only mentioned once on the page as a previous band member? And only listed as a keyboard player??? He was one of the original members, wrote alot on both origin and fallen, and is the male vocals on some of their best (imho :p) songs, like Anywhere.  David left the band after fallen was already recorded because he didn't want to tour.  I think wikipedia should atleast explain to users why 3 people went up to accept the grammy :) Seraphim 08:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Hodges 

message: Glad to see so much progress on this article. It was bare bones when I last viewed it. Thanks! =) Lantoka 07:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awesome Work on this Article Everybody! 

message: I think that a fansite that should be added is the "Evanescence Greek Fan Club" It's link is www.evanescence-gr.com and it is the biggest and evanescence fan club in Greece.
:I dont think that it is noteable enough to be added to the English page, but perhaps the Greek page on Evanescence would be a suitible place for the link ? --2mcmGespräch 22:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evanescence Greek Fan Club 

message: I think there are too many images on the article. There is already the photo of the album cover of each album in the discography so it's no use to put them again beside the paragraphs on the main articles. I removed the image of the chronicles of narnia.
it looks better with more images but the wrestling and chronicles of narnia should be removed or resized--Childzy 13:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Overload 

message: just want to say i think that there are way to many external links for this article, gonna see how many are necessary and delete them.--Childzy 17:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Just a reminder that references need to be from respectable sites (or evboard if its a post by the band).
If anybody can find references for the un-cited statements then either reference as per the others on the article or post it on here and i'll be happy to do it.--Childzy 17:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: --Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 16:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should i put this on the other pages as well, like general songs that have articles???--Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 16:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just checked some other bands out and they have so if i miss any just put  on the page at the bottom above that cats. --Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 16:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Look what i made 

message: Does anyone know if Evanescence has music video UMDs ou for the PSP or, if they don't, have any plans to make some? - User:sasuke-kun27 15:11, 24 June 2006
None of the fallen songs are avaliable on psp but there may be a chance of songs from new album being able to be downloaded as MP4's from the website - well hopefully. To be honest this isnt the place to ask try EvBoard or the official site --Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 21:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Videos on PSP 

message: On the official myspace.com profile, the genre is defined as Rock/Alternative/Pop, so that's the genre that I changed it to. User:Arual 20:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: -( I'll live with it for now but I'm still not happy with it, I'm not sure as to how far the band go in making their MySpace profile. :-( --Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 22:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: You can also put in a note with invisible text.  WesleyDodds 21:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah ive done that, cant you see it?? ;-)  people dont care but thanks for trying to help... Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 21:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre-Rock/Alternative/Pop 

message: ===EvBoard===
I am adding this as it is informative (most news breaks here first due to Amy Lee being a member), aswell as this they have a large reference relating to everything to do with the band. For these reasons it is alowed under the rules of WP:EL (Occasionally acceptable links, note 3.)Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 17:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I am adding this as it is informative (most news breaks here first due to Amy Lee being a member), aswell as this they have a large reference relating to everything to do with the band. For these reasons it is alowed under the rules of WP:EL (Occasionally acceptable links, note 3.)Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 17:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: EvBoard

message: =*(
—Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 22:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIP Will 

message: I'm not convinced that the reference to Amy Lee encountering an inspiring "true Word of Knowledge" is appropriate.  Did she describe it as such, or is this an intrepretation by a Wikipedian?  If the former, it should remain, but Wikipedia is no place for the latter.  Stephen Aquila 13:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither am I, I must have removed about 10 times now from both this and the Amy Lee page, if it appears agin, just remove it.Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 13:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inappropriate Religious Reference?

message: Some notes from the old page
*It has been decided for now that the genre should remain as Alternative Rock, any attempts to change this without first starting a formal discusion on this page will be classed as vandalism.
*If any non official external links are to be added you must first give reasons here and let a discusion take place about the link, then depending on what is said it will be kept or not.
Thanks Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 11:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archived - Notes to remember 

message: * I changed it again. This picture is better because it isn't cropped or anything, and you can see Amy's dress in it's entirety. :-)
* It's the official promo picture, and in the Evanescence ETEAM it is put there so it can be posted, so they Band has no problem with the picture being used. :-) After all, it is promoting in some way, shape, or form.
Dannycastillo 01:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good photo, im going to change the tag on the photo (just so it doesnt get deleted), i guesss if its from the eteam we can license it as premission given but to play it safe i will but promo tag on it Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 09:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not matter if the promo tag is on it. The image must pass all criteria of WP:FUC to be considered fair use here. I have placed the appropriate tags on the image. It should be replaced or deleted right away. Roguegeek (talk) 03:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Added track listing. Citking 18:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: im really sorry but that stuff goes on the album page (The Open Door), not on the actual band page. Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 20:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track listing confirmed for The Open Door 

message: thumb|Supposed cover of The Open Door
The picture for the cover of The Open Door does not look like a cover of a CD. It looks like a screen shot from http://www.evanescence.com/. I think the user who uploaded it is guessing that this is what the album cover will look like. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Unless someone can prove otherwise with a credible source, please do not re-add this image on to this page. --Gary van der Merwe 07:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: people are so impatient...i think he uploaded it fully knowing it wasnt the cover, if you could mistake that for an album cover you'd have to be pretty dumb. Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 09:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Speculation is not a substitute for a lack of information. That just causes confusion, and is rather annoying. This is an encyclopedia, we don't make guesses. The Son Of Nothing 14:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok people enough of this now, the uploaded has explained so please, lets get over it.Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 17:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'The Open Door Cover Picture 

message: The album not for your ears is not mentioned in the article, I do not claim to be an expert but I know it was released in 30Nov 2002 and there were numerous tracks that have a more electic feel to them, it needs to be mentioned It would be best if someone with more knowledge of the album did a quick mention of it.
:Ya'll can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not there because it's not a real album. It's a bootleg.The Son Of Nothing 16:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it in one Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 08:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it at least be possible to mention it on this page if only to say that it's not a real album?  This talk page is the only thing I've found mentioning that, and it would help kill a lot of speculation about the album.  It'd also be nice to have a little more info on it, like where the tracks on it originally came from. 71.12.171.24 09:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's really not necessary. The collection exists, yes, but it's not remotely important or noteworthy to their history. Lots of bands have had bootleg collections of unreleased songs thrown around, it just isn't important enough to talk about. The Son Of Nothing 13:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Like Toxicity II? grendel|khan 16:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because it exists elsewhere doesn't make it noteworthy or necessary (or right).  -- Huntster T • @ • C 17:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not For Your Ears

message: EvBoard.com has never been the 'official' forum for Evanescence (evanescence.com did have an official forum but it was closed down due to the huge numbers of spammers/people writing many, many somewhat disturbing messages), and even around EvBoard.com itself the staff do point out that although band members do occasionally post on there, it's not in any way an 'official' site. Link at the bottom of the page should be chnaged to not say 'official' forum, unless someone can come up with some evidence from Wind-Up or a similar source which states EvBoard.com is the offical forum.
:EvBoard was specifically mentioned by the band a few times, particularly in the linear notes of Anywhere But Home. It's pretty much the most official forum we've got. The Son Of Nothing 12:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded it, its technically not official but it remains in links, see archive for discussion Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 14:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: After todays incident, Evboard.com is definitly not an official forum. Jamesinclair 23:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  EvBoard.com 'official' forum status 

message: I happened to glance at the band members thingamy in the booklet for Fallen, and studio drummer Josh Freese is labelled as the drummer. So why did Rocky Gray not drum on the album? He was in the band before and after, and even co-wrote one of the songs on Fallen (Tourniquet), so why did he not drum on Fallen? If anyone knows the answer, it would definitely be valuable information for the article. U-Mos 12:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where did Rocky go? 

message: Why can't we write "nu metal" and "goth (rock or metal)"? Obviously Evanescence are influenced from these two genres, members also like bands like Lacuna Coil, Korn and Papa Roach.
:This point has been argued, debated, and fought over to the point of nausea. The genre listed is what Evanescence is classified as on MySpace - there hasn't been any official sources suitably claiming otherwise. The Son Of Nothing 15:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The MySpace is (technically) from the band itself. It's hard to get more valid than that. Besides, what the heck do music critics know? The Son Of Nothing 15:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably more than the members of some horrible mass-produced band. - 211.28.135.42 12:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

text: If you follow the cite, you'll see it comes from the band's myspace page, which has predefined genres they can select from.  Apparently they selected rock, alternative, and pop (for whatever reason...).  Also, replying to Sasuke above, www.myspace.com/evanescence apparently is the band's profile.  Else it wouldn't be under the Music category, I don't think. -- Huntster T • @ • C 15:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good enough for me. If they describe themselves that way, then that's how it should be in the article. —Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 00:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Genre 

message: The history section says "The songs were altered psychically and musically by Lee". What does it mean to psychically alter a song, or is this a typo? Mrwhizzard 00:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All fixed. There was a rash of strange edits, and I guess I didn't set my revert far enough... or something... The Son Of Nothing 03:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychically? 

message: Could we maybe upload at least one early demo of a song in its entirety. The link that cites the fact that they encourage people to download the old songs, has a transcipt of where they - Lee and Moody - give express permission to do so. Obviously it would not be a good idea to risk a song that was finally included on Fallen etc. (as they may have given an exclusive licence to what is now Sony BMG or Wind-Up) but something that was never released other than on early unsigned CDs, to which Lee and Moody would definitely retain full copyright control of. Anyone else agree? - Рэдхот 14:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have all their demos on my computer, so I could probably do this if people see it necessary. It would be a good way to demonstrate their progression as a band.  The Son Of Nothing 15:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The song Origin is only 35 seconds long so that's a full song and about 30 seconds or listen here.--Monkey 13!!! 03:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Origin" is hardly representative of Evanescence's music, given it has no lyrics and is nothing more than a lead-in for the second track.  If there were to be a demo, it would need to be of a song that users have a chance of recognizing.  -- Huntster T • @ • C 12:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early demos? 

message: "he MySpace is (technically) from the band itself. It's hard to get more valid than that. Besides, what the heck do music critics know? The Son Of Nothing 15:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Myspace dosn't have a write-in genre option for bands, so there isn't the ability to make up genres as you said. Thus, a band is forced to put itself under a catagory.... I'm really sick of this topic. Unless Amy Lee gets in in public and specifically names an *exact* genre for the band, I really don't think there's anything left to debate.The Son Of Nothing 19:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  genre 2 

message: This page is beggining to be subjected to much scorn and vandilism by IP's. If this escalates we may need to get a temporary protection. UnDeRsCoRe 01:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Protect?

message: The band seems to be "some guys behind Amy Lee" now that Ben is gone.
:"The band" didn't have much of a hand in writing 'Fallen' either (look at the writing credits and you'll see). It's not like it's any different now. Terry just replaced Ben as the co-writer.
:: If it says "Evanescence", it's not an Amy Lee solo album.
Ben was the band
:No, Evanescence is the band, Ben was just a member :)  -- Huntster T • @ • C 10:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Open Door = Amy Lee solo album? 

message: Right now, the article is in need of serious reorganization and rewording.  Instead of grouping all events under sections by Album timeline, would it not be useful to have sections for albums, band changes, and other assorted data?  I plan on doing this myself when I have a spare block of time (next week?), but if anyone would like to take a stab at it themselves in the meantime, please do.  However, given that The Open Door has just been released, it seems several Evanescence articles has a terrific mish-mash of material that could be better organized, but an overall revamping of these articles might be better suited for after this newness has died down.  Thoughts?  -- Huntster T • @ • C 08:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article reorganization 

message: Evanescence released a promo EP in January of 2003; the article is at Mystary EP, which states that it was purposely misspelled. However, in adding an album box, I added an image, and noticed that it was spelled "Mystery" on the cover. I've never actually seen a copy of the album, so I don't have any hard, canonical evidence here. What's a good way to settle this? grendel|khan 16:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this really is a mystery (or mystary, if you prefer).  I've never seen a cd cover for this EP, and my personal belief is that the one you posted is something that a fan created on his/her computer just to fill in the gap.  It might have been a promo image converted for use, as the font used for "Mystery" looks tacked on after-the-fact (also looks like Courier New font, which doesn't jive with the look).  As far as I know, the band stated it was an intentional misspelling, but I don't believe I've seen a cite for that either.  I'd say, leave as is until something can be proven one way or the other. -- Huntster T • @ • C 17:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mystery or Mystary? 

message: It's Ok a couple things need to be sourced, the first paragraph of the Christian controversy stuff, and the info on the DVD sales are the ones I say, clean that up an i'll pass it.
†he Bread 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the notice.  We'll work on cleaning this up.  Please stop by again if you have further suggestions.  -- Huntster T • @ • C 17:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Huh, didn't know there was a time limit.  Might have noted something to that effect when you first came around, eh?  -- Huntster T • @ • C 08:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Hold 

message: Sorry hold ran out 
†he Bread 03:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh, didn't know there was a time limit.  Might have noted something to that effect when you first came around, eh?  -- Huntster T • @ • C 08:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed 

message: Can someone tell me what "Years active 	1901-Present" is doing in the profile box? I'm not sure of the exact year, so I did not correct it.
--59.176.33.159 07:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It says 1998 as of your posting. There was some vandalism earlier (to answer your question), but it was quickly reverted. —Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 07:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1901? 

message: I believe it would be appropriate to restrict official sites added to "External links" section to be English speaking sites.  I say this after noticing an attempt to add an official Iranian site to the list (which actually didn't even function), and also because we have the official French site listed, which, even though it has an English version, doesn't actually convert much of the text on the site into English.  Those links that refer to official sites in other languages should be properly placed on that language's entry for Evanescence.  Thoughts?  -- Huntster T • @ • C 17:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: The body of the article says that the album The Open Door was released the day after October 2. The chart showing release dates says September 25. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.126.76 (talk • contribs) 
:It says that it was released in the US on October 3.  September 25 reflects the earliest known date, which is specified by Wikiproject Album; in this case it is the earliest known international release date.  -- Huntster T • @ • C 20:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictory Release Dates