Talk:History of Anatolia

message: Denizz my comment wasn't aimed at you. I apologize if it offended you. The problem with this article is that lacks information. What I mean is that I think there is more to History of Anatolia in Modern Turkey then 70000 illegal Armenians and having just that information makes this article very POVish. --VartanM 07:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Turkish nationalists are already demanding that the roughly 70,000 Armenians who work illegally in Turkey -- and who have until now been quietly tolerated by the government in Ankara -- be expelled. None of the sources say that the Armenians are citizens of Armenia. Plus there are demands that they be expelled. Also we need to use third party sources, The first source covers everything and no need for the Turkish government source, which has an obvious POV. VartanM 19:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It would be nice if users with NPOV were more involved with this article. VartanM 06:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I left the later additions merely out of convenience, but rest assured tha I know they really need to be NPOV. I'm just trying to improve the quality one section at a time, and it is coming along nicely. Monsieurdl 11:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: This article needs major work, and as you can see I have begun by categorizing everything and writing sourced material, beginning with the Etruscan influence and the Lydian kingdom. I would appreciate any help with this article as it really looks bare bones without material- but in the end, it will be worth it! Monsieurdl 19:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is taking a lot of work, as it is over 3,000 years of history! If anyone has any ideas for more references with regards to the Roman Empire, the Seljuk Turks, or beyond, message me here! Thanks. Monsieurdl 19:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major revision taking place

message: I do not see here the important Battle of Avarayr, May 26, 451 AD, led by Vartan Mamikonian who was proclaimed as an Armenian saint. This date is important in Armenian calendar and is celebrated each year as Vartanianz. In this battle Armenians liberated themselves from Persians. Avarayr is in Western Armenia (of that time) which is west of Lake Van and thus in Anatolia.Lantonov 11:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have yet to reach even the Roman Republic of BC, and so as of YET it is not included. There is just no end to the sheer amount of events and civilizations involved really... that is exactly the kind of input I am looking for to make this FA one of these decades! Just kidding. Monsieurdl 02:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Avarayr 

message: For ancient Troya, see also the article Dardan, and, of course, Heinrich Schliemann, Trojan war, Historicity of the Iliad. Lantonov 15:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the references- I sure will! The challenge now is to how to fit them in- I'll probably have to split up the first section to make it work. As you can see, I'm right now adding to it. Monsieurdl 15:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troya of Homer Ilyad 

message: It will be good for the article to remove the last sentence: "Approximately 40,000 Armenians (citizens of the Republic of Armenia) came to Turkey to look for a job illegally in recent a few years.[21]". The fact may well be true and documentally supported but it is a sensitive topic and may attract passion and fire and cause heated and unneeded discussions on ethno-historical grounds. In addition to Armenians, there are many other numerous immigrants in Turkey in recent years like Azeris, Russians, Ukrainians, etc from the former Soviet Union. They come mostly looking for better jobs because the economy of Turkey is in better shape than in those countries. Lantonov 05:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking about it, but up till now no firebrands have come on here and disrupted my work, luckily. I see these kinds of things all over the historical articles, and I have been very fortunate people have left me alone. Rest assured I'll remove the totally unimportant line when I get there, or someone restarts this war and causes problems. I'm fully aware of the sensitivity of this subject because of the inflammatory bill before United States Congress.Monsieurdl 11:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I changed my mind- I revised the poor passage for now as I can't stand looking at it anymore. Monsieurdl 13:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I already added it to the timeline- it is my template for working on the rest, so to speak. Thanks! Monsieurdl 13:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Retract above. The Center is ok.  Lantonov 14:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That source is outstanding! I really like it because it is very organized and from what I saw very well written. I am very wary of using many internet sources unless they are book links, but this may be an exception. I'm almost there- this article is taking a long time! Monsieurdl 15:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenians in Turkey 

message: Since I added the tags from the other projects, I just replaced them with the History one, and of course retained the WPTR one, since we have an active group at WPH. Monsieurdl 20:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject History

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "Botsford" :
** Botsford(1922).
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* "Bury" :
** Bury, J.B.(1913).
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* "Gibbon" :
** Gibbon (1952).
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* "Ramsay" :
** Ramsay (1904).
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DumZiBoT (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

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message: In this part it says: "The 250.000 years old homo sapiens footprints of Kula[1]" but according the source the time for footprint is given only for 25.000 years old. (see: In another hall, where the fossil footprints belonging to the homo sapiens species human beings living in the region in 25000 BC,) Can it be a mistake in artikel? --77.188.20.183 (talk) 02:20, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I corrected this based on the scholarly literature --Michael Goodyear (talk) 17:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Paleolithic

message: This page needs reconciling with History of Turkey. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 19:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplication 

message: I am undertaking a major revision. I see that someone reformatted all the headings because one level contained only one =, which is frowned on since it provides a font equal to the page heading. The problem with starting with 2 =s is that by the time you get to 6 =s you have a font smalle than the text which looks silly. For now I have replaced them with plain text. Alternative solutions are to use numbered headings, or to split the article (which wil probably happen anyway - see my note above). --Michael Goodyear (talk) 04:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears as though splitting is the way to go, especially after reading that humongous hatnote. I think there should be only one hatnote there. Right now I tend to think the long hatnote should stay, as it takes all those words to explain how the topic is split. However, splitting is incomplete. We are still including substantial sections on modern Turkey and modern times. According to the hatnote, that material goes under history of turkey. I might help out a bit here, but you can't count on it, so just keep on with the revision.Dave (talk) 04:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are correct and my long termn strategy is to systematically rewrite the entire topic. Having finished Prehistory, I split it off, and will work up to the Turkish Migration and then cut it off there, transferring any information that is not duplicated. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 00:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Now this page has been split again, it is just a bare bones account of the Byzantines, Ottomans, and Modern Turkey - all covered well elsewhere - I will deal with the Byzantine matter shortly - - eventually it could be made a summary page with directs or a disambiguation page--Michael Goodyear (talk) 15:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All pages are now linked by a navbox in place of hats. A temporary explanation of the purpose of this page has been added at top till proper Byzantine section developed --Michael Goodyear (talk) 15:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting 

message: How did lost ancient Anatolians (Non-Whites and Whites) their language and ethnic identity? Did they already assimilated by the Greeks before Turkish invasion? Anatolia#Classical_antiquity: 
"A period of peaceful Hellenization followed, such that the local Anatolian languages had been supplanted by Greek by the 1st century BC". 217.172.172.200 (talk) 15:55, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Assimilation 

message: On revisiting this page after 6 years I find it a bit of a mess. In 2012, I took this version and decided to rewrite it from scratch, starting with prehistory. For a variety of reasons I abandoned it here at the end of the ninth century, when I returned from Turkey. The page was tagged for splitting, which I did, as noted above. With the wisdom of hindsight that was not the optimum choice, it should have been handled by spinning off many subpages and maintaining an overarching outline page. Now we have an unsatisfactory compromise. Among questions needing answering are, do we need this page at all, how does it work with History of Turkey, and what is Anatolia anyway. At various stages, inevitably, it got hit by geopolitical conflict involving the nature of Turks and Armenians. I will take a closer look, but not promising anything. --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉  19:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page status 

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