Talk:History of California before 1900

message: Under the "Labor politics and the rise of nativism" section, it said that the Chinese were "expelled from the gold fields."  I was wondering why.  The sentence is just dropped in there.  It is interesting, but it raises more questions.  At least another sentence or two would be nice to fill out this point.
The beginning of this article is unattractive and is a complete disappointment.  
The Table of Contents is very long and the picture is almost invisible.  The Table of Contents is askew in relation to the picture.  Most of the page displayed is blank!   This looks very, very bad and is a waste of space.
To remedy this, a slight bending of Wiki conventions should be made.  Since the content of the article is obvious from the title, a familiar topic, the first paragraph ought to be placed under the picture, not at the top.  This would allow more of the blank page to be filled.
:Hi, sorry, i was trying to get to your talk page to discuss the change I made and then I had browser problems and then I had system problems and then...  but you don't want to hear about that.  I'm back logged in.   I much prefer having text display when I'm in an encyclopedia, and I suspect (although I have no surveys to back me up) that others do, too.  So having a huge picture appear at the top, followed by a huge TOC, is very disconcerting.  Then having another heading after that made me think I had missed something and maybe it was hidden behind the illustration (which, BTW, is what happened to the TOC on a smaller screen with the huge image)...  ANYway, if we could shorten the TOC, I think it would help some, but the only way we're going to do that is by chopping the article into multiple articles--which might not be a bad idea, it's so long, but it'll be hard to figure out what new article titles we want.  OK, I like the image below the text & alongside the TOC, but it can't be any bigger because (again in a smaller screen) it squishes the TOC too narrow as well as hiding some of it.  Oh, BTW, the two images side-by-side in Twentieth Century section do really weird squishy/gappy things to text inbetween as the window narrows.  Looks cool on a wide screen with smaller resolution but not everyone has that, so they probably need to be vertical also.  It's hard to do the perfect graphical layout when everyone is seeing something different and you have to accommodate them!   Elf | Talk 01:22, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction, Table of Contents and Tiny Picture

message: "When looking at a map of California, the southern border does not run straight east to west, as other borders in the western U.S. do. Rather, it runs at an angle from Arizona to just south of San Diego Bay."
Why? I've always wanted to know. Kingturtle 05:50, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  southern border 

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message: On 8/18/2022  changed Indian to Indigenous.   reverted with a comment about quotes, though no quotes were used. I tend to agree with changing Indian to Indigenous, which is more neutral and meaningful. Not sure if it should be capitalized. Wikipedia generally uses Indigenous or Native American: Indian#The Americas. Kim9988 (talk) 00:19, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Indian is very ambiguous. If we continue to refer to them as Indian, then we cannot use Indian to refer to people from India. There are demographically more Californians of Indian descent than there are of Native American descent. IvanjelikalAnCom (talk) 00:45, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

text: The article has been stable which demonstrates a long term consensus among editors so it is odd for previously uninvolved editors to suddenly perform a find and replace changing "Indian" to "Indigenous" claiming this is for clarity and respect. Blanket changes do not show respect for the subject matter. Readers do not need this term disambiguated in this article. The only reason provided is a personal opinion while Wikipedia requires reliable sources and consensus. The edit showed a lack of understanding of the subject of the article.  says  "Native Americans are also commonly known as Indians or American Indians. A 1995 U.S. Census Bureau survey found that more Native Americans in the United States preferred American Indian to Native American. Most American Indians are comfortable with Indian, American Indian, and Native American, and the terms are often used interchangeably." Further, in the disputed edit, the term Indian was put in quotes when it was not removed which presented cultural norms as simply opinional MOS:QUOTEPOV. Given the issues presented here, a review of the welcome post on your talk page or a tutorial may be beneficial. Fettlemap (talk) 04:35, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian, Indigenous