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Talk:Rancheros visitadores

message: Books with reference to the RV
* Santa Barbara by Barnaby Conrad (Author), Marc Muench (Photographer)
* Writing Los Angeles: A Literary Anthology (Library of America) by David L. Ulin (Author)
* Horses: A Guide To Selection, Care And Enjoyment, 3rd Edition by J. Warren Evans (Author)
* The Art of the Western Saddle: A Celebration of Style and Embellishment by Bill Reynolds (Author)
* Sideways in Neverland: Life in the Santa Ynez Valley, California by William Etling (Author)
* Cowboy Hat Book, The (rev) by Ritch Rand (Author), William Reynolds (Author), Banning Co. (Photographer)
Rancheros Visitadores
715 Santa Barbara St 
Santa Barbara, CA 93101View Map
805-962-3000 
Members start meeting up the first thursday of every May at Camp Jackson and on the following sunday they move to Camp Janeway.
Santa Barbara	
CALIFORNIA HISTORICAL LANDMARKS
NO. 308 COVARRUBIAS ADOBE - The adobe was built by Indian labor in 1817 for Don Domingo Carrillo. In 1838, his daughter married Don José María Covarrubias, who in 1852 became the first federal elector from California. Descendants of these families, many of them leaders in public affairs, occupied this house for over a century. John R. Southworth moved and rebuilt the 'Historic Adobe' here in 1924 as part of a civic program of historic preservation. Los Adobes de los Rancheros acquired the property in 1938 as headquarters for Los Rancheros Visitadores and for the use and enjoyment of the people. 
Location: 715 N Santa Barbara St, Santa Barbara 
notable members
*Ronald_Reagan
*Alex_Madonna
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http://members.impulse.net/~mlynch/Brooke/rancheros.html
True Grit - Rancheros Visitadores
by Brooke Comer
Santa Barbara Magazine - April / May 2004
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http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organisations/grove/1985_08_05_Time_The_male_managers_last_refuge.htm
Fortune, August 5, 1985 v112 p38(5)
The male manager's last refuge. (all-male clubs) Walter McQuade.
Full Text: COPYRIGHT 1985 Time, Inc.
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Bob Guhl (talk) 16:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary section 1

message: While the article does not claim notability, the talk page provides more than enough evidence of notability, as does a web search.  The historical marker alone almost does the trick. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedy deletion declined
Talk:Cebes

message: Any sources for that claim? Haiduc (talk) 22:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lover of Simmias? 

message: It'd be a good idea to add that information, considering it took me a while to figure out (still not so sure whether I've got it: /KAY-bees/?). It should be the norm for Greek figures with seemingly ambiguously pronounceable names in encyclopedias to have a pronunciation guide next to their names in their entries. —Polynilium (talk) 13:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name pronunciation
Talk:Clearchus of Soli

message: "Clearchus reported a dialogue with Aristotle, where the philosopher states that the Hebrews were descendants of the Indian philosophers"
The source provided makes no mention of Hebrews. It says Jews, not Hebrews. Hebrews and Israelites have only been synonymous with Jews in relatively recent history. Even in the original Greek version, it says ἰουδαίου which translates to Jew but only because of mainstream Judeo-Christianity's concensus to make Yehudim/Judean/Judaism/Jewish all the same thing. This is historical revisionism. The article about Herod's kingdom requiring everybody to practice Judaism is factually incorrect. Observe the law of Judea, which the modern religion of Judaism is a continuation or from a religious perspective (a similar claim can be made for all Abrahamic faiths). Religion didn't exist back then the way it does now, it was government.
In that example, not everybody in Judea was Jewish. Not ethnically or religiously. This is such a taboo topic, but an encyclopedia should not bow down to a religious concensus. Facts are not determined by majority faith-based opinions. The same thing goes especially for Hebrews and Israelites. The religious concensus is the only concensus. It ignores the Haiburus and the various Iberians (Ireland, Spain, Georgia, Russia) as possible historical Hebrews in favor of nothing historical as proof. It ignores the Jutes as Jews as in Anglo-Saxon-Jutes despite all the evidence to the contrary that the historians turn a blind eye to.
So equating Hebrews with Jews from a source that already elsewhere treats them as separate is a mistake which many people believe because the terms have become synonymous mostly for political and revisionist purposes, mostly within the last century  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.97.27 (talk) 05:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrews 

message: The article contains a list of his writings. Are they available online? It would be useful to know where/how to access his writings.  Pete unseth (talk) 14:41, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Are his writings available online?
Category talk:Lists of people by wealth

message: I examined all of the "By citizenship" lists of people by net worth and found that exactly 9 out of 56 country lists include age in the list of individuals: Brazil, Canada, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Monaco, Pakistan, Philippines, Ukraine. In each of these pages, the age is hard-coded, i.e. not generated by a formula based on date of birth and current date. That means that every day that any of the listed individuals has a birthday, one of these articles has to be updated. How well are we doing? 
Let's try Pakistan. List of Pakistanis by net worth lists 15 individuals, 10 with ages. Of those, we find:
Rank	Name                	Age listed	Age actual
1   	Shahid Khan         	64        	65
2   	Asif Ali Zardari    	57        	60
3   	Anwar Pervez        	77        	80–81
4   	Nawaz Sharif        	64        	66
5   	Saddaruddin Hashwani	71        	76
I stopped reviewing after finding that none of the listed 5 richest Pakistanis are listed with the correct age; errors range from 1 to 5 years.
This is no way to manage an encyclopedia. Let's remove the age from the tables of these nine pages. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:04, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age is difficult to maintain
Talk:Diodorus Cronus

message: In the "Problem of Future Contingents" section, it states that: ″This theory approached the doctrine of fate maintained by the Stoics, and Chrysippus is said to have written a work, On Possibility, (Greek: περὶ δυνατῶν), against the views of Diodorus.″
What I do not understand is why Chrysippus' work would have been AGAINST the views of Diodorus? Chrysippus was a famous Stoic philosopher who, among other things, expanded upon Diodorus' propositional logic. So, why would Chrysippus disagree with Diodorus in what seems to be a fundamental point? I think that there might be a mistake here, but I cannot say for sure because I am unfamiliar with the details of the texts that are referenced. If anybody is familiar with Chrysippus' "On Possibility", then please help resolve this question.IonNerd (talk) 01:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, you've noticed what a garbled mess this page is. It's a problem I'm afraid of using the venerable Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology to write these pages. I've had a look at Diogenes Laërtius, vii. 191, and there is no reference to a book called "On Possibility against the views of Diodorus," instead there's a book called "On Judgements of Possibility, addressed to Clitus," so that assertion may be wrong. It does appear however, from Cicero and Epictetus, that Chrysippus did argue against Diodorus, specifically on the question of what's possible. Diodorus maintained that the possible is either what is true or what will be true, but Chrysippus argued that even though something is not true and may never be true, it may nevertheless be possible. I've made a minor modification to the page, but the whole thing really needs expanding with modern sources. Singinglemon (talk) 20:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Problem of Future Contingents" Section

message: It seems that Diodorus Cronus and Diodor Cronos are one and the same person. Urzyfka 04:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His name is Diodoros Kronos in the original Greek; Diodorus Cronus is a Latinized form. — Emil J. 14:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments
Talk:Eubulides

message: eubulides is a considerably more important figure, than this article suggests. Janemansfield74 22:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of the Encyclopedia Britannia 1911 articles are inadequate.  I've rewritten the page now, I hope it's a bit better.
Singinglemon 13:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In case you are not aware you have been mentioned here.  Thought it right for you to know.  --CrohnieGalTalk 14:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYI
Talk:Gordon Tietjens

message: Is there a reason Tietjens' knighthood and prefix are not represented in the infobox in the common form (i.e. prefix/Name/suffix) @Paora you've reverted my edit, but just wondered if there was a particular logic to it. Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is a logic. Sir is a prenominal, and that is why it is also in bold in the lede as part of the subject's name. This is in contrast to honorific prefixes such as The Honourable or The Right Honourable, which are presented in the way that you  describe above, and are not included as part of the subject's name in the article lede. Hope that helps! Paora (talk) 21:44, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prefix
Talk:Hacker (cheater)

message: Read it and weep.
Jw1 you're just a fucking little high school piece of shit. No one gives a crap about your opinions. There are NO citations at all in this piece of shit article so I'm going to delete this crap. 
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darkcurrent (talk • contribs) 03:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a piece of shit
Talk:Hipparchia of Maroneia

message: I restored a half-line deleted 10 months ago which had the edit summary: "no account of them having sex appears in Apuleius' Florida", because its untrue. It is mentioned, not of course in any online translation (because they're all 100 years old), but its certainly in the Latin:
Duxit Cynicus in porticum; ibidem, in loco celebri, coram luce clarissima accubuit, coramque virginem imminuisset paratam pari constantia, ni Zeno procinctu palliastri circumstantis coronae obtutum magistri in secreto defendisset.
Basically, they head off to the portico to couple, and their pupil Zeno tries to hide them with his cloak out of shame. The story is of course very dubious, but it was subsequently mentioned by a number of Christian writers as well. Pasicles (talk) 22:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Readded deleted half-sentence
Talk:Polemon (scholarch)

message: Can't help noticing that this entry claims that Polemon died in 273 BC, but was head of the Academy until 270/269 BC.  I guess they just didn't want to let him go. :)
--Singinglemon 16:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the entry claims that Eusebius claims... ("According to Eusebius (Chron.) he died in 273 BC").  The inference I draw from this is that the consensus death year is 270/69, not Eusebius's 273.  You are making a good point, which is that the article should provide the source(s) for 270/69, & perhaps add some wording to avoid confusion about Eusebius' statement.  The point I perceive in the way Smith's Dictionary (which this is verbatim) puts it—"According to Eusebius (Chron.) he died in 273 BC. Diogenes also says that he died at a great age, and of natural decay"—is roughly, "This is a very obscure person, and we don't have the material for a detailed chronicle of his life.  Still, multiple sources, which seem to be computing from slightly different sets of evidence, agree in saying that he was scholarch for a long time, more than 45 years."  Wareh 17:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Further research shows that Smith has fibbed by splitting the difference between two possible dates.  Depending on which MSS you're reading Eusebius in, he gives the date as 276/5 or 270/69 (the latter of which has won more support).  The most up-to-date discussion with bibliography I can find on the spot is in the first paragraph/page of this Rheinisches Museum article (upshot: despite the fact that many scholars have taken inadequate note of the fact that Philocrates' archonship is settled to be 276/275, Jacoby's choice of 270/69 for the death year remains most likely).  I'll fix the article, and thanks for the spur to do so.  Wareh 18:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polemon died when? 

message: The page states that he was born in 314 which clearly conradicts the fact that he was pupil of Xenocrates and became head of the Academy after the latter's passing in 314. Ioiops (talk) 13:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem with dates
Talk:Cosmobiology

message: Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution, and future of life in the universe, besides Earth. A books google search shows a number of scholarly journals also calling it cosmobiology. So that distinction probably should be made. CarolMooreDC (talk) 20:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cosmobiology also synonym for astrobiology
Talk:Tarique Ghaffur

message: Regarding the entry that reads "...one of whom studies at xxxx Grammar School." relating to one of Ghaffurs's children, I believe it's inappropriate (and infringes right to privacy) to give out any details that can lead to the identification of a minor.
I believe this is established in the Voluntary Press Code.
I will remove this entry in 1 day unless someone puts forward a strong case for me not to do so. Kbdguy (talk) 22:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identification of minors. 

message: It has been alleged that the operation was systematically sabotaged by officers eager to undermine Ghaffur and Blair's high profile stance on celebrity drug taking...
:What was this stance? Valetude (talk) 18:59, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kate Moss case
Talk:Piper Maru

message: IMDB says Micheal buble the singer was uncredited for this episode and the releated one. Can this be confirmed and included? thanks Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Query
Talk:Montemagno

message: Will fix links once I have access to WP:AWB on another machine. - Mgm|(talk) 12:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Later
Talk:Races of the Malazan Book of the Fallen

message: I'm officially confused, are the Trell and Barghast descended from the Toblakai or the Imass?  WLU 15:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to clarify this (or maybe at least make the books ambiguity more clear) but i may have mucked it up worse, sorry.
the 3rd book in the series says the bargast were decended from  Imass (as the bagast gods/anscestors bearied in Capustan were Imass) 
the forth books first says Bargast were decended from Tboblai in the ginants list (see below)
I have no idea about the Trell they may have been in the list of giant races atributed in book 4 to have decended from the Toblakai.
Then latter it mentions the Toblakai travelled together with the Imass who were at sea, that fort the tiste Edur.
NOTE: the giant list i mentionm is  the list from Leoman's conversation with Karsa Orlong (in book 4), and leoman may have been wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxinabox (talk • contribs) 09:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Thelomen Toblakai

message: Sorry if I'm bringing up something which has been talked about before, but as someone who is a fan of the MBotF series, and I do my bit updating the Steven Erikson page, is there not the option of expanding the races to their own pages. Like having a T'lan Imass page, and a Tiste page. For one article it is very long and cumbersome to read. Alan16 (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have thought of that but there are many people out there that try to tear down wiki pages, but i believe that a non-human and human pages.  That way it would be split up but the human site would have to be added to a lot.  Krmarshall (talk) 02:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate Pages.
Talk:Vaudois

message: "But this theory that Peter was the originator of the Waldensians is turned on its head as the oldest Waldensian manuscript is dated around 1020 AD."
The claim that "the oldest Waldensian manuscript" is dated around 1020 AD, i.e. that the Waldensians were not founded by Valdes in Lyon around 1170, is disputed - even in this article, which says that the Waldensians appeared in the late 12th Century. As this is an important point, the manuscript should at least be given proper references (manuscript foo in the national library of somewhere) and description. Or is "1020" a typo, that the year really meant is "1200"?
Jfsolem 12:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Where does this word Vaudoir come from? What language is it? Andrew Dalby 17:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is completely wrong - it should be Vaudois so I requested a page move. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk • contribs) 01:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It is French BTW. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 01:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The page has now been moved from Vaudoir to Vaudois. -- zzuuzz(talk) 22:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The name
Talk:Yasin Valley

message: I would like to clear for the sake of removing confussion in the minds of readers that yasin (Boroshal) is the land of Brushaski speakers and it is a kind of injustice with the people of Yasin to say that Khowar is the primary language spoken in Yasin.Khowar is a kind of symbol of influence put by the Mehtars of Chitral who ruled over Yasin time and again so it must be clear that the basic(native)language of Yasin is Brushaski and Khowar is the second important language spoken in the valley...Although the people of Yasin Valley love to speak Khowar and most of the people can speak it and enjoy the heart touching music of Chitral but some people speak Khowar as their primary language and these people are mostly those who worked in the Royal Court of Mehtar of Chitral and they were attracted towards it because of their profession.....No doubt,Khowar is a rich language spoken in Chitral and it was brought to Yasin valley with the invasion of Mehtars of Chitral who had a firm rigime in Yasin and even ruled down to Gilgit Valley which is the capital city of Northern Areas(Gilgit-Baltistan)as Islamabad is to Pakistan.  a native of Yasin.
The People of Yasin are basically Broshos. Brosho is an old ethnic division. Yashkun and Shin terms have lately been used in history. It is said that the remnant of Brosho civilization are the inhabitants of Nager, Yasen and Hunza. it is said that once in history there was an established Broshal state in Gilgit Baltistan. Latter on when invaders came to this region they pushed the inhabitants to exteme pole of GB i.e. Nagar, Hunza and Yasin. it was perhaps an era berfore Christ. it is a fact that names of Places in whole of the GB especially in Gilgit region are derived from Broshaski Language. Khower is a latter phenomenon in Yasen. the original language of the people of Yasen is Broshaski.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.174.13 (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Talk:West Indian cricket team in England in 1984

message: I assume that means shut out? The link goes to the paint. --AW 17:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been fixed at some point during the last 8 years! --Dweller (talk) 11:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitewash? 

message: () --Dweller (talk) 11:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source material
Talk:Jennifer Pike

message: Removed honorific, as per policy,  pointed at Charles, Prince of Wales Galf 19:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Charles, Prince of Wales
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Academic Journals/List of scientific journals in Serbia

message: Reason given (Non notable list as most are red links) is not listed at WP:CSD. And I don't think it's a valid reason. A number of times I made a list which was almost fully red and observed how people fill it (for example, list of mountains in Serbia and Montenegro), and most likely people wouldn't make these articles at all had the lists which gave them the idea to do it not existed. Additionally, this list might inspire people to make similar lists regarding other countries.
And by the way, it seems that the request for speedy deletion is made in bad faith, as an attack against me by User:Tar-Elenion (compare Special:Contributions/58.165.90.202 with Special:Contributions/Tar-Elenion). See also Wikipedia:Association of Members%27 Advocates/Requests/February 2007/Nikola Smolenski. Nikola 13:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Atlas Strategic

message: Their name is clearly after Ayn Rand's book "Atlas Shrugged," especially since the title of their first album is also in reference to her. Maybe it should be mentioned in the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.29.60 (talk) 01:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Inspiration 
Talk:Balaam and the Angel

message: This article is quite well cited now maybe the box saying additional citations needed should be removed. There is one un-cited statement about the band as a support act that I have flagged as citation needed.
Should there be a new article for Chapter 22? Although the band started the lable it signed and brought important early releases from a number of bands (inc. The Mission, Pop Will Eat Itself and Ned's Atomic Dustbin) and is still going recently releasing an album by Dawn After Dark. Shaun Sheep (talk) 09:19, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Alternative trading system

message: this content is very US-centric. ever heard of virt-x for example?195.157.53.1 12:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I suggest that both Electronic trade matching and Crossing network be merged into this article as sections in examples of ATSs. Any objections? The Sound and the Fury (talk) 23:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they are best kept separate for the terms themselves meet WP:NOTE. And ATS is pretty much a US item, while Electronic trade matching can in principle apply to exchanges outside the US as well. The ATS article, however, does need clean up and more references, etc. History2007 (talk) 01:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: But the articles aren't long enough and if ETM is one kind of ATS then why not put them in the same article, for the sake of tidiness? The Sound and the Fury (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Length is not a deciding factor for a merge decision, given that articles get expanded over time. Further, the ATS is a US only system as the article states, so that remains a barrier as well. There are multiple barriers here, and not much to be gained. History2007 (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. The US-centric issue seems the most relevant. Case closed. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 17:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal