Talk:Rudi Gernreich

message: , you've twice removed the fact that Gernreich is gay and Jewish from the lede, stating in your comments that "sexual orientation and religion don't belong in the first sentence." 
* First, this is your opinion, there is no style convention or guideline covering your belief. 
* Second, his sexual identity was an essential and notable part of who he was throughout his life. His sexual orientation was a strong influence on his fashion designs, his attitude towards women in general, affected his social life, and impacted how he chose to conduct his business, "as Gernreich believed public acknowledgment of his homosexuality would negatively affect his fashion business," which is supported by a citation. 
* Third, although his religious identity is less essential to his career and life, it's notable for the fact that he came from a prosperous Jewish family before they left Europe. It was the reason they fled Europe as refugees and came to Los Angeles, where his career was established. He would not have come to the United States if his family was not Jewish. Furthermore, his experience as a member of an oppressed Jewish minority certainly influenced his life as a homosexual when it too was an oppressed minority.
* Fourth, the fact that he is gay and Jewish is commonly noted in many articles about him and is relevant given his life history. 
If you have any other valid reason for removing these facts from the lede, please note them here and we can discuss it. Otherwise I will revert your change in a few days. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 17:15, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, that seems reasonable then. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 21:19, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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