Talk:Gymnopédies

message: The French version of the article, while it's only deemed an outline, appears to have more relevant information than the English. Perhaps utilising some of the same information/sources might prove useful, esp. the section on Satie's choice of the word "Gymnopédies". My time, unfortunately, is limited these days, so perhaps someone else can look into it? Kevin F. Story (talk) 01:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Information from fr.wikipedia

message: It would really be excellent if the page on these could discuss their style and sound, rather than briefly noting the circumstances of their writing and subsequent modification and meditating extensively on whether they mean Satie was gay, which is what it does now. —Vivacissamamente 00:17, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See expansion request at Gymnopédie#The music --Francis Schonken 07:40, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Hi, thanks! I'm still hoping someone would make a harmonical analysis: I've been looking around but couldn't find one yet (and I'm not all that experienced to make one myself) - I think that should also explain their exceptional nature (maybe even more than them being "complex" and/or "irregular") - their "complexity" shouldn't be exaggerated though: they're simple (very simple) melodies on a simple (very simple) harmonic background, these compositions have no exceptional (and not really a "complex" or "irregular") structure, etc... --Francis Schonken 09:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, yes, I agree, too. I'll try to work on it and see what I can do. I have one question, though - exactly what significance does the poem have? Well, obviously, it is of some importance, but its section is much longer than that of the fundamental ones. --~~MusicalConnoisseur~~  Got Classical? 23:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Try the newsgroup rec.music.makers.piano - Google Groups can help you locate it.  Oscar 03:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Need more on the music itself - style and sound

message: I don't know if there's a good place to put this, but the 1st gymnopédie is used at the beginning of episode 12 of the Japanese cartoon Love Hina, which is where I first heard it, although since it is uncredited (as far as I can tell, I can't read Japanese) I had a really hard time tracking it down :(
It also sounded really familiar, so I'm sure it's been used in other shows, movies, commercials, etc, but I can't think of any specifically.  FredNash
Yeah I first heard it in Short Circuit 2, then saw it on a mates phone years later Ryan4314 02:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also in Flower, Sun and Rain performed by Torn. It's also on Dragon Ash's album "Harvest". 148.197.81.135 (talk) 11:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use in Media 

message: Per the "clean-up" box, I started copyediting the article to provide more of an encyclopedic tone.
I removed the following phrase: "rhythms shift out of phase, phrases terminate mid-flow and key signatures shift much more commonly than usual".  The first two are just not true.  The rhythm is consistently that of a 3/4 note followed by a half note, except for the last 2 measures.  And there are no phrases which terminate mid-flow.  As noted above by Francis Schonken, the pieces are rather simple.  The most unconventional aspect of the compositions are the harmonies (dissonance) and the chord progressions.
While copyediting, I moved the Music section to the beginning since this is the standard encyclopedic structure.  As noted above, there needs to be more information on the actual music itself.  Right now, there is more stuff (or fluff) on Ambient Music and on musings on the origin of the word than there is on the music itself.
I would be happy to discuss these or other changes, and thanks, Oscar 02:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting 

message: People, I see a lot of "citation needed" in the article now, specially regarding musical analysis (as I now, there is expectation to a Baylor analysis to be used as source), but isn't it an exaggeration? These are pacific points. If we should source everything we say about a matter in WikiPedia, we would be paranoic and walk obsessively slower. For example, there is a "citation needed" when the article says that the three pieces share the same theme and structure. Just listen and you will note it. Just take the score. It's an auto-evidence. If we are too absolute in asking citations, we'll trade the perception of reality for an absolutely theory of reality, ontology for axiology. Ideas are tools to infer reality, and, as that, must be flexible: so we can't take ideas (in this case, theories) as BEING reality (in this case, don't accepting auto-evidence).
But as I see it is a provisory state of the text. --Leonardo T. Oliveira (talk) 20:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for the obvious and easily verifiable? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: , let me begin by thanking you for pulling out a significant chunk of starry-eyed WP:OR/speculation today; as coincidence would have it, I was looking at some of that same content earlier and contemplating removals myself.  However, there is one bit of content you removed which seems to be adequately sourced and I wondered if maybe it was removed unintentionally.  Specifically, the mention that Satie had said that the Gymnopédies were inspired by Salammbô, which a is the last bit of content towards the bottom of the altered section, in this revision; is there something which I am missing that explains why you felt this was WP:OR, or did this content just get caught up in a larger edit by mistake? Snow let's rap 08:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , I moved this statement and combined it with a similar statement based on the source I used, where it was attributed to Satie's friend. The cited page isn't available in preview, and I'm trusting that it was reflected correctly. Thanks for double-checking my edits! Eperoton (talk) 21:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh geez, yes there it is, of course--that's egg on my face; thanks for taking the time to respond, though! Snow let's rap 23:43, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor inquiry 

message: I wonder whether the name origin tracks back beyond the festival to the “naked philosophers” who presumably danced it? The gymnosophists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnosophists. I don’t have a way to confirm this. Just putting it out there for consideration. Jordan 05:23, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gymnosophists