Talk:List of eponymous diseases

message: I've started this page as a beginnings of a repository of medical eponyms. An important resource is WhoNamedIt.com, an encyclopedic site dedicated completely to this aim. I try to link through most eponyms to that site, instead of copying all the stuff from there. Please add any medical eponym you can think of! There must be thousands of them! Jfdwolff 14:56, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: I've

message: :"In 1974, the US National Institutes of Health held a conference where the naming of diseases and conditions was discussed. This was reported in The Lancet (1974;i:798) where the conclusion was that "The possessive form of an eponym should be discontinued, since the author neither had nor owned the disorder." Medical journals, dictionaries and style guides remain divided on this issue."
This statement is incorrect.  The reference given is a short notice of the intent to have a "workshop [that] will convene later."  The notice does mention eponyms as part of a proposed nomenclature, but not as is often quoted ("The possessive use of an eponym should be discontinued (e.g., Down—not Down's—syndrome).").
I have not been able to find the results of the workshop, if such exists. TedTalk/Contributions 17:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NIH naming 

message: If this is a list class article, the descriptive content is out of place. Perhaps moving it to Medical eponym would work better. Certainly that article needs work.LeadSongDog (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misplaced content 

message: I'm moving this article to 
List of Eponymously Named Diseases
The diseases are not eponymous but rather the person who they're named after is eponymous.
ironcorona (talk) 20:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Article 

message: Per WP:ENDASH I've fixed a bunch of the two- and three-name links to use en dash.  In most cases the article titles were already right, so this just avoid mis-punctuation redirects.
We also used spaced en dash, not spaced hyphen, to separate parts of a list item (disease name from people name in this list); fixed a few of those two.  And some case and spelling errors while I was at it.
I was careful not to make any new redlinks, and to fix a few that were due to errors.  Dicklyon (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  En dash 

message: I've changed "Cannon syndrome" to "Cannon disease" as there seems to be no accessible info for CS. I have linked "Cannon disease" to 'White sponge nevus'. I have serious doubts that the Walter Cannon linked to the disease was the originator of the disease name. Richard Avery (talk) 14:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Richard Avery - right you were! The point you raised has bugged me for a while, particularly as I had some familiarity with Walter Cannon's work and couldn't reconcile this disease with it. I've revisited the matter off and on for several years and today decided to search under the less commonly used terminology 'White sponge nevus of Cannon'. Bingo! It brought me here Here and, thence, to Dr Abernathy Benson Cannon's original journal article . I've corrected the entry accordingly. Thank you. Irish Melkite (talk) 21:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannon disease 

message: I have removed Hippolyte Bernheim's name as he was not the person to describe Bernheim's syndrome. It was first described in 1910 by P. I. Bernheim, a French physiologist.  Bottom of first column,   Second line, and here, Now all we need is more info on P. I Bernheim. Richard Avery (talk) 15:15, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bernheim's Syndrome 

message: i would argue, on several grounds, for the removal of this entry. first, it isn't actually the name of a disease. it's simply a species name. second, it refers to aspecies of microorganism that, the vast majority of the time. isn't a pathogen. and, perhaps most importantly, the use of eponymous naming in linnaean taxonomy is so common as to provide the opportunity to expand this list beyond recognition. i.e., who knows how many pathogens there are with eponymous names? naegleria fowleri comes immediately to mind, with the genus named after  someone named naegler, and the species after fowler.Toyokuni3 (talk) 16:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: then there's salmonella enterica, listeria monocytogenes, etc., etc. see? (i would however, have no problem with the inclusion of listeriosis. that's a disease.Toyokuni3 (talk) 16:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: E. coli

message: "Disorders named after a specific person or place are called eponyms." - This statement appears at http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/naming. While linguists might make a distinction between eponymous versus toponymic, NIH and NLM apparently do not. Thoughts? Irish Melkite (talk) 08:48, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I would consider that a fluke and maintain the distinction. Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL>||иэvэ иэvэl3 03:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Long since done Irish Melkite (talk) 20:14, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are toponymic names eponymous? 

message: "(this name is rarely used now)" - I deleted this parenthetical which followed Leo Kanner's name. The same could be said of any number of the eponyms listed and I can't see any particular reason why the first widely applied name for Early Infantile Autism should be singled out on that account. Irish Melkite (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kanner syndrome 

message: Anyone with sharper eyes than me who can figure out why Abdallat-Davis-Farrage syndrome won't link to the Wiki article by that title? Irish Melkite (talk) 11:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it was the "wrong" hyphens. I put in Wiki mark up 'n'dashes and it worked. Ah, the devil in the detail! Richard Avery (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks - hadn't thought of that possibility Irish Melkite (talk) 02:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link problem 

message: When I started doing some additions to this page a couple of days ago, I noticed that some entries, in addition to the names of the physicians and others for whom diseases are named, also described nationality and occupation (mainly medical specialty). I followed suit and then began to add those to entries which lacked them, for consistency of presentation. Now, I'm wondering - interesting yes, but essential, no. Is there a consensus as to whether they are worth adding? I'm inclined toward 'yes', but don't want to invest a lot of time and effort only to have someone decide, 2 weeks from now, that it's superfluous info and delete them all. So, thoughts?  Irish Melkite (talk) 11:24, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I had some similar thoughts Melkite and my feeling is that it is perfectly easy to click onto the article (where it is linked) to see the name of the person. I must admit I am not murderously keen on one or the other, but would prefer to keep it simple if we can. On another theme I must say you are building up a huge list, well done. I will try to link or write the redslinks when I have time. Richard Avery (talk) 14:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Richard - thanks for the feedback and for catching PTEN (was on a roll, got caught up entering a list of related syndromes, and didn't stop to realize that I'd hit the end of the eponymous ones) and question mark ear (my only excuse here is that I've always found it such a great descriptor that, when I realized that Q wasn't represented, I jumped at the chance to fill the gap - w/o ever a thought as to the criterion for inclusion). The replication of Munchausen was intended to be the proxy, but the hour was late and I c&p'ed but didn't modify - I'll revert and update the text to correct it. Irish Melkite (talk) 03:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Got thru A. I'm planning to work down the list, adding those that I pick up incidentally along the way, but won't do any more heavy duty additions until I clear out the nationalities/occupations, and add in the aka's that fall on top of each other alphabetically. (I don't see a point to x-referencing across the list as a whole. It would be a nightmare and alternate names can easily be accessed by linking to the article; but, when an alternative name is next alphabetically, it makes sense to not replicate the entry on the next line) Irish Melkite (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Irish, I think the bare redlinks of diseases without even the associated name(s) are not a good idea.  You can collect those on the talk page instead, to be added to the article when there's some info, no?  Dicklyon (talk) 02:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Dicklyon - I agree. I've tried to add at least one of the names (where there are multiples and all aren't readily findable) to each - any I don't get to tonight, I'll pull and collect here. Update - think every redlinked disease has at least one associated name now. Probably be a 2 day hiatus before I get back to this - have o deal w/ a family medical crisis that will keep me off-line until Friday night. Irish Melkite (talk) 10:06, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Reminder to self - sort out the 2? different Rileys associated w/ Bannayan and sort out the Zonana/Riley conflict in one instance, involving the same cluster of related syndromes with multiple name variations but w/o consensus that they are precisely identical to one another. Irish Melkite (talk) 09:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've eliminated all of the nationality/specialty text, got rid of a few non-eponymous terms, and put all the named persons who were w/o links or redlinks into brackets. Also added an explanation of why cross-referencing is limited and explaining that which exists, Will work on some additions over the next week - as well as adding alternative names to existing articles.Irish Melkite (talk) 10:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  i can find no reference to a second riley. what is the likelihood that 2 guys with the same name would be working, not only in the same specialty, but on the same constellation of symptoms and disorders. in any event, there is no jonathan zonana riley, whicvh is what it said.Toyokuni3 (talk) 16:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we want? 

message: i have reverted the addition of this entity, as neither the disorder nor dr. middleton have wikipedia articles and a quick review of the usual sources does not find it. there is a stephen john middleton at cambridge. he is a gastroenterologist, but even his own online profile makes no mention of an eponymous syndrome.Toyokuni3 (talk) 15:50, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The lack of a Wiki article isn't the criterion for listing. Middleton syndrome is primary accelerated gastric emptying - source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23862171. That description would make it likely that the eponymous syndrome is named for the said Dr Middleton, a gastroenterologist, although I can't yet say with certainty that it's named for him. I'm re-adding the entry. Irish Melkite (talk) 08:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Middleton syndrome

message: The definition is incorrect. Perhaps in an effort to paraphrase, whomever transcribed it from the cited source missed an important distinction. 
As it reads, "An autoeponym is a medical condition named in the honor of the individual who described it or died from the disease." Associating an individual's name with a disease merely based on describing it confers only an eponymic; the individual must have been either affected by it or died from it for the name to be termed autoeponymic. I've revised the sentence to read "An autoeponym is a medical condition named in honor of an individual who was affected by or died as a result of the disease which he had described or identified." 
The examples cited include a fracture, a test, a sign, and an embalming technique. Given that there are plenty of autoeponyms involving diseases and syndromes, the necessity or value of including examples that are not such is unclear. As well, there are already list entries for eponymous fractures, tests, and signs (albeit none for embalming techniques, of which I'm aware). Unless someone can offer a good argument as to why the unrelated examples should remain, I propose to delete them in about 10 days time. Irish Melkite (talk) 02:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  done Irish Melkite (talk) 06:22, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autoeponym 

message: I've done a pretty much complete rewrite of the 'Explanation of listing sequence', having decided that my original text of several years ago wasn't sufficiently clear. Irish Melkite (talk) 18:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of listing sequence 

message: I do believe George Huntington did not suffer from the disease itself, nor did his father of grandfather. He only took over the medical practice of his ancestors. I cannot find any evidence online of them suffering from the disease. He died of pneumonia.
I do not have acces to the source cited as being proof for the statement of George Huntington or his father or grandfather suffering from the chorea.
Source: http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/966.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.84.142.209 (talk) 20:55, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huntington's Disease 

message: In re-reading the 'Autoeponym' section for the 100th or so time, I realized that the example in the second sentence (Alzheimer disease) has no relevance, as Alois Alzheimer did not die of the disease which bears his name. I deleted the parenthetical and did not replace it, since three relevant examples already exist in the bulleted text following. I also deleted the parenthetical regarding Gehrig, instead adding it to the examples. And, I cut the last sentence of the paragraph "Therefore, both patients and doctors have been the subject of autoeponyms." as it is redundant, restating the premise of an paragraph too short (a mere 2 sentences) to need repetition. I added a short sentence to acknowledge that the entries below adhered to the cited conventions. Irish Melkite (talk) 07:00, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autoeponym 

message: Here are a few good sources to exploit in the article if someone has time: a review (historical and linguistic) of eponymously named diseases: , studies on usage: , . --Signimu (talk) 15:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  New sources 

message: Added table of contents alphabetic link box at top of list
Deleted - from 'see also' - 
* List of eponyms, a complete list of eponyms sorted by name
* List of neurologists and neurosurgeons, some of whom inspired eponyms
The first serves no useful purpose here (and questionably anywhere, in my opinion, particularly in its current format)
The second - we could link every specialty - it would serve no useful purpose
I will add links to other medically related eponymous lists shortly. Irish Melkite (talk) 08:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted 2 entries in the 'A' list as they are not diseases, disorders, syndromes, or conditions
 Armanni–Ebstein nephropathic change – Luciano Armanni, Wilhelm Ebstein - it's a symptom indicative of diabetic nephropathy
 Arthus reaction – Nicolas Maurice Arthus - it's a hypersensitivity reaction to a vaccine Irish Melkite (talk) 21:41, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions & Deletions 

message: I modified the entry of Hallervorden–Spatz disease which read "This disorder is now preferred to be called pantothenate kinase-associated neurodegeneration (PKAN) given that the genetics are now known but mainly due to the unethical research practices of Hallervorden and Spatz as they were Nazis. See List of medical eponyms with Nazi associations". We specifically do not record the anatomic/physiological terms descriptive of eponymous conditions, as it would make the list more unwielddy than it is presently; a reader can access same by clicking the linked term. That an eponym has become obsolete, is deemed a misnomer, or has fallen out of favor or into disuse is addressed as concisely as possible. Text now reads "In disuse, due to Nazi associations on part of those for whom it was named.Irish Melkite (talk) 02:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conventions applied to listings