Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 1

message: Hmm... I don't mean to be a spoilsport for Jacob .C, but there is absolutely nothing confirmed about this game, only that it is on the Wii and will have some level of online support. No characters have ever been mentioned. For all we know, Nintendo might decide to create a new, original cast for the game, forgetting about everyone else. (I'm ignoring the fact that the article is riddled with typos and formatting errors, but that can be easily fixed and is not the point of my criticism.) I recommend we revert this to the redirect, but I'm not going to do it unless someone else agrees (I don't want an edit war on my hands). --ZeromaruTC 18:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is now in "decent" shape. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 04:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gossip

message: I can guarantee you all right now that Sonic and Tails WILL NOT be in the next Smash Bros. game. They are owned by Sega. Nintendo only includes characters owned by themselves: no royalties were ever paid to other companies. Now stop adding them as "strong contenders". --ZeromaruTC 03:19, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, no third party titles at all. ; ) Highway Rainbow Sneakers 18:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ^Thats sarcasm right? I thyink it is but if not then..your wrong.
PS. Sonic an Tails would be horrrible to put in the game, think about it, how would sonic fight without sucking.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic & Tails 

message: There are NO, I repeat, ABSOLUTELY NO characters (or anything like date, developer, ratings, and the like) confirmed for this game. The ONLY reason Wario and Toad are even mentioned is because Peach and Bowser got in Melee after the same poll. I'm going to request this page be locked from editing until Nintedo starts announcing information, 'cause all these speculative edits is just flat-out insulting. --ZeromaruTC 15:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was, like yourself, an anonymous user. If you're going to be making worthwhile edits, I recommend signing up with your own username. Anonymous users, though more than welcome here, are usually taken with a grain of salt when they disagree with existing users. There are also a host of other benefits. --ZeromaruTC 00:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it not, however, worth mentioning the characters that absolutely WILL be in the game (ie. Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Samus et al).? NP Chilla 20:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Deleted more posted by some user called Momegifkov. --LuminousSpecter 03:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  STOP ADDING CHARACTERS 

message: Can I get a source for that press release? I removed the character list added ('cause it was still speculative), but I kept the note about Satoru Iwata's press release, assuming it actually happened. I can't find any reference to it, though. --ZeromaruTC 11:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nov 12 2005 Press Release? 

message: I haven't seen anything to support this person's statements either. I'm not going to erase it until I can get definite proof that he's lying, though.
--Shadow Wyvern 23:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nintendo.com is nice but updates about 20 minutes slower than other sites. It didnt mentionSSBB until about15-20 min after ign, and prolly10 after GSpot.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Confirmation 

message: Call me a pedantic little git if you like, but does anyone really think that link to the "Fan Created Character Database" - a fan site that's choc-a-bloc with characters who, frankly, are merely characters SOME fans would LIKE to see in the game- is worthy of inclusion?  The number of characters on the page is ridiculous.  I assume Revolution (the machine) will be powerful, but the page is simple asinine.  Plus some of the characters are trivial and pointless.  For example, how is "Vacuum Luigi" not just Luigi with the Poltergust 3000?  Most of the characters are all-but-unknown and Jessie and James from Team Rocket are listed, despite being mainly animé characters (I'm aware they have appeared in 2 games, but I think it's a given they won't be playable characters in SSBR).
Wikipedia doesn't link to fan fiction (or shouldn't, at any rate), so why should it link to this site?  Bear in mind, once the game is released, the site will HAVE to be removed from these listings for gross inaccuracy unless it vastly alters.  Do we really have to delay the deletion by a year?  --L T Dangerous 22:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny, I never saw it before. Replaced with Gamespot link. --ZeromaruTC 23:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: External Link

message: This may be a REALLY short article, but it contains every iota of information on the game outside Nintendo HQ. I've removed the stub notice, since there's nothing to expand on. --ZeromaruTC 23:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed stub notice 

message: I'm wondering how to include this info which I got from [].  Basically it says that the guy who work on the previous Smash Brothers games but since left HAL, will help in the development in this game. 71.96.220.61 17:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, Babelfish is a crappy translator for French. Funny, 'cause it usually translates Chinese fine for me when I need it (and I do frequently). Anyway, I'll add in this little tidbit. Thanks for the heads up :). --ZeromaruTC 18:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's an English report of the Famitsu article. Looks like his return is definate. 71.96.220.61 18:53, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumor: Masahiro Sakurai to be on SSB Revolution development team 

message: That is completely fake, and you can even see the creator's name on the full thing. Art styles don't match, and there are two Falcos... 65.33.242.23 03:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remove the "boxart" 

message: Okay, we all already know everyone thinks Wario, Toad, Koopa Troopa, and Ridley will be on thier but is it true? I suspect Toad will not be on the game because he is in one of Princess Peach's moves. I also suspect the Koopa Troopa will not be in the game either because his shell has been an item since SSB1. Wario is definitly a contender though. But, has anyone considered Diddy Kong? You can come up with enough moves and  he'll only be the second DK Chaacter. I've also had weak premitions about Baby Mario and Luigi could this be thier debut? And for you losers who don't that Sonic and Tails are licensed by SEGA and that the SSB series only releases characters licensed by them. If i had my way Dr. Mario would be out. He is just a copy of Mario with a different costume and his fireball is a pill.
H-BOMB 18:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: However, Diddy Kong is part of the Donkey Kong series of games, so he is technicaly owned be nintendo.--acfan-Talk to me 21:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

text: For me, it seems to be about the iconic Pokémon.  Pikachu is the mascot of the franchise; Jigglypuff (in the anime) is pretty well-known for being the singing Pokémon; and Mewtwo, well Mewtwo, he's the big bad guy, the creature who can think and talk and is, quite frankly, one of the coolest villans ever.  He was the best character in Pokemon: The First Movie.  I'm guessing that Groudon or Kyogre would be the strongest contenders, as they are non-flying and are the box art covers for Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire. - Hbdragon88 00:13, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Groudon would ROCK but kyogre would UNROCK, also now that Solid Snake (Gotta put the solid in, it's not a liquid and it's not naked) Im hoping for Raiden cos ninjas rock, also I want an assasin from Fire Emblem.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (prepare for sarcastic internet talk) (you were warned) U=teh n0Ob SpAmis teH r0XorZ!!!! U is T3h suxxx.j/k. but really this is spam too, (so ha) or not, or yes.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters Users Speculate to be in [[Super Smash Brothers Brawl]]

message: This is a encyclopedia people . Just the facts!  It dosen't require Character Speculations. (That's for the Talk Page. Go to bottom of page for it.) So i'm removing the thing about Toad and Wario. H-BOMB 00:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A quote from the template:  This article or section contains information about a computer or video game under development.
It is likely to contain information of a speculative nature, and the content may change dramatically as the game's release approaches and more information becomes available. 
Note the part where it says information of speculative nature. Toad and Wario are fine.RememberMe? 18:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, the fact that they were the top choices in the poll is fine, but saying that it's almost certain that they'll be included in the game is not.  The "information of a speculative nature" isn't for people to just add whatever they think will wind up in the game.  It's there in case a news article breaks out with supposedly leaked information or other similar tidbits.  The future game tag does not give permission to add personal speculation and cruft. --TheKoG (talk|contribs) 18:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Point taken. RememberMe? 18:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless Info 

message: Since the Nintendo Revolution has been re-named Nintendo Wii I was wondering if we should still call this Super Smash Bros. Revolution.  Obviously this isn't the final name of it, and E3 is just a few weeks away.  Maybe it should just stay under this name until an official name is announced? I'm not really sure what to do about this. --TheKoG (talk|contribs) 18:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's wait for E3. Then this should be sorted out... - Malomeat 20:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Keep it Revolution until E3. IceDrake523 23:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Some people seem really determined on keeping it as Wii. Perhaps there should be a move lock until E3? RememberMe? 16:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

text: For now it should be left as Wii. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wii all know this is called SSB Brawl now so this topic is pointless. Again I think someone delete it if noone can think of a point this serves.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't delete anything from talk pages! Highway Rainbow Sneakers 12:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change? 

message: Someone decided that the game is now called Super Smash Brothers "Dojo."  This seems to be completely detached from reality, can anyone find evidence for it? --proath01 09:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read a comment from a 1Up poster, and found the reason. The official Smash Bros site (I am linking to the english version) is named Smash Bros. Dojo. It seems people believe this is the name of the Wii game. -- ReyBrujo 04:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that Brawl is the American name and Dojo is the Japanese name, but I might be wrong.RememberMe? 21:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dojo is the Japanese title variation, will everyone please sign their notes. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 21:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No no no. Everybody is wrong SSB Dojo is the name of the website.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  ^Pretty sure this guy is right. Dojo is just the name of English site (smashbros.com), since it basically reads, "Smash Bros. Dojo!!! The official Super Smash Bros. Website." The video said Brawl anyway.--67.164.82.217 23:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Additionally, to reinforce that Dojo is not the Japanese title, the trailer had Solid Snake speaking in Japanese, which would mean the trailer is clearly not made for America, and it did have the Brawl name. Theunknown42 00:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SSB Dojo?

message: On the last paragraph on the IGN article, It says it will not be released on the Nintendo Wii. Therefore, it must be released on the GC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by  XdragonSB  (talk • contribs) 21:08, May 10, 2006
:Nah, that isn't true. Those Nintendo guys from E3 said it'd be on the Wii (but it will probably not use the Wiimote controller). - Joshua368 05:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's a Wii game. Re read the article in question. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 05:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If noone can give me a good reason not to I will delete this in a day. OK?Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 19:41, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't delete anything from talk pages. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 19:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ive heard that but, (now) pointless information from before any official releses really are wasting space and noone needs themQwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:35, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

text: You're not supposed to fool with the talk pages...--Claude 03:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine I wont but an admin/mod should.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: It's for the Gamecube

message: The number of screenshots, organised as a gallery at the bottom, neither make the article better nor are likely kosher by fair use law. They should probably be all removed. --Improv 15:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a collection of stills from the E3 trailer.  Just link to the trailer and an offsite collection of stills and we should be clear. Nifboy 21:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote to remove the images (some) from here, but leave them on the pedia, they all seem to have been added to the relevant character articles. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 21:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. Many articles have TONS more pictures in their galleries (Shadow the Hedgehog (video game) comes to mind). It's fine the way it is. RememberMe? 22:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, there is a new discussion about galleries after a first support for removing them from articles. So, better not to take measures before anything is settled. However, I suggest setting a limit. Since the game hasn't been released, I would think 8 is a good number. That would prevent having big galleries of just promotional images. Choose images carefully trying not to duplicate "characters". In example, don't upload images where only one character is seen, instead upload one with two or more to make more room for other images without having to have one image per character. Just a suggestion. -- ReyBrujo 06:02, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But single character images work for character articles, so don't stop. I do agree with Rey though. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 07:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many screenshots to be fair use

message: Samurai Goroh, Wolf O'Donnell, Ridley, etc. all appeared in the Melee opening, yet are not playable in the game. Toad was thought to be playable for a long time too, even after it was proven untrue. All the characters seen so far are going to be in for sure, but let's watch out to make sure we don't post someone as confirmed too soon. Voice of Treason 22:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reminder to be careful with future trailers and characters 

message: This seems to be more of a discussion about the relevance of friend codes rather than anything specific about Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Kelestar 07:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes i agree, it was so close to deleting the whole section because all it talks about how Friend Codes will work on Wii and not how it will on Smash Bros. which is what needs to be there but since we know nothing about it there really does not need to be anything there. Also "Sakurai said his team would try to take the game online, but he thinks it would be a hard to make four-player online work." -GameSpot http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/supersmashbros/news.html?sid=6150506 and some other place said no 4 player online but maybe 2 player. So instead of having info about Friend codes some one needs to talk about how the developer may have a hard time making the game a 4 player online game and it may only have a online mode for 2 players. DidYouLoseASock 16:39, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Friend Code Section 

message: We all ready have the screen shots of some of the charachters and wario is gonna be on it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PopiethePopester (talk • contribs) .
:Please do not call other editors "idiots", it's not a term we appreciate. Please sign your messages on talk pages. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 15:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: GOSH!!!!Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:33, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Was that sarcasm? I am asking for no more characters, new or otherwise, to be added. We need some form of proof before any new characters are to be added, whether on the talk page or in a reference. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 08:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it was sarcasm.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idiots!!