Talk:Hor-Aha

message: The description in the first paragraph, of Hor-Aha's name, would yield something along the lines of: "Hor(us), the Fighter", or "the Warrior Hor(us)". Don't forget, his name is really, Ancient Egyptian language: "Hor(us)-Aha", pronounced as the people pronounced it.(I would assume the word "warrior" is implied in his choice of names, maybe related to the conditions, his birth-rite, or his predilections.)  (from the SonoranDesert of ArizonaUSA...--Mmcannis (talk) 01:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if it is a mistake I think we have to go with the most commonly used and recognised name.  We don't know for certain with the early pharaohs; you know like pharaoh Narmer's name is actually written "catfish chisel", sometimes he is referred to as "Catfish chisel" but someone decided it was pronounced Nar-mer and convention has gone with that even if incorrect, so that's what we use.  But in the case of his predecessor Scorpion, there is apparently less certainty about the EGyptian pronunciation so he is usually just called king Scorpion.. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 18:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Would anyone object to me adding "(or Aha)" after Hor-Aha in the first line of the article? For examples of usage of the alternative name in academic circles please see Lloyd (1993) or Edwards (1977). gergis (talk) 08:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds reasonable to me.  We should always try to include any alternate names that are in use, of course, and perhaps also make redirects to the most common name. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 10:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hor-Aha's name 

message: The current reference to Hor-Aha's father in the Infobox should be removed. While mainstream Egyptological consensus agrees that Hor-Aha was preceded as pharaoh by Narmer / Menes, where is the evidence that Narmer was his father? Even on the assumption that Hor-Aha is the second pharaoh, and Narmer / Menes the first pharaoh of Dynasty I (i.e. the same dynasty and therefore presumably the same family), might Narmer not be Hor-Aha's uncle, brother, a more distant kinsman or even someone utterly unrelated? In any event, the reference used to support the claim that Hor-Aha's mother was Neithhotep is merely speculative about Narmer being her husband.
Certainly, without a clear reference supporting the claim, the Father field of the Infobox should be left blank. It would be better to discuss possible genealogies and pharaonic succession in the main text and leave speculative conclusions out of the Infobox.
:I agree. Infoboxes can be dangerous, they at times take complex information and simplify it too far. See my userpage for my view on them. I particularly hate ANE dates in them. Dougweller (talk) 11:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The above proposal (removal of reference to Hor-Aha's father from Infobox) has been on this article's talk page for (at least) 7 days and, in the absence of any argument to the contrary, will now be enacted. gergis (talk) 12:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox genealogy 

message: The late prof. WB Emery points out that no artifacts definitely dating to Narmer have yet been found further north than Tarkhan. Narmer probably died before the final conquest of the north.
Also that Hor Aha had a large tomb at both Abydos and Sakkara but Narmer had only a modest tomb at Abydos. Clearly HorAha had access to greater resources than Narmer and seems to have stronger claim to be the first pharaoh.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.93.199.154 (talk) 12:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First pharaoh 

message: Sorry to repeat this again but I forgot to sign the earlier entry.
The late prof. WB Emery, in his book “Archaic Egypt”, plausibly points out that no constructions definitely dating to Narmer have yet been found further north than Tarkhan and that Narmer probably died before the final conquest of the north.
Hor-Aha had large tombs at both Abydos and Sakkara but Narmer had only a modest tomb at Abydos. Clearly Hor-Aha had access to greater resources than Narmer and seems to have the stronger claim to be the first pharaoh.
Prof emery also translated "Menes" as meaning "Established" which may also strengthen the suggestion of Hor-Aha as the first pharaoh.AT Kunene (talk) 15:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Pharaoh 

message: I tagged three statements attributed to Manetho, which I could not find in my copy of Manetho -- Waddell's translation for the Loeb Classical Library. In the surviving fragments of Manetho, there is no mention of a Pharaoh Hor-Aha. In his account of the First Dynasty the second ruler is named Athothis, whom Manetho describes was the son of Menes & a physician who wrote books on medicine, & he built the royal palace at Memphis -- the last two statements are a contrast to the retainer sacrifice associated with Hor-Aha. I don't know if experts identify Manetho's Athothis with Hor-Aha, or with another ruler of the First Dynasty, or how they think Manetho's account of the earliest rulers fit with the archeological evidence. But these statements attributed to Manetho are embarrassingly inaccurate as they stand, & if no citation is found for them they should be removed. -- llywrch (talk) 06:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hor-Aha and Manetho 

message: This page is in Category:Deaths due to hippopotamus attacks, but this does not appear anywhere in the article.-Ich (talk) 16:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I'll remove that category.--WANAX (talk) 10:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Deaths due to hippopotamus attacks 

message: 216.11.189.204 (talk) 23:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2020