Talk:Industrial ecology

message: Is industrial ecology sometimes called synergy? Is there an industrial ecology complex called synergy?
I thought I heard something like that, somewhere.
This article is the best thing ever by the way. Good work. Lotusduck 19:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean "Eco Industrial Park" when you are talking about a "complex" or "estate". Industrial ecology is a bigger framework for business operation that includes many aspects such as green accounting, lifecycle assessment, industrial symbiosis, etc. Chaerani 11:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synergy 

message: I don't believe the our industrial system is a biological process.  These two terms are imcompatible. I think the term industrial ecology is pure jargon and suggest a deletion occur.  Each government body or private entity involved in industrial development is unique, there are no populations or species and so the process is not ecological. Notice that ecology is a sub category of biology.  It's like chalk and cheese.
Just because some waste is being reused does not mean it is a "closed loop system".  All living things consume energy and therefore can never exist within a closed system. It is not possible to just ignore the laws of thermodynamics. It is not possible to endlessly reuse waste products. What a weak and useless discipline of study. It is just another field of research which provides an excuse for continuing economic growth as usual. - Shiftchange 22:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: hi, crticism of the filed can only be done in academic journals not here. Industrial ecology is a well established field with more than two decades of reseacrh. though the correlation between ecology and industrial systems appear first, the field is certainly more accomodating than that--Ravishankar 13:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incoherent babble that is bad and unreliable 

message: External links to academic programs were re-added today.  Can anyone tell me what the value of these links is to the general reader?  Do these links directly provide more detailed information about industrial ecology, or are we once again trying to wave the magic wand of academic credibility over this subject?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Again

message: The style of this article is not very encyclopedic, methinks - it's more like a sales pitch. It needs to more balanced - maybe adding a Criticism section? 79.138.252.161 (talk) 10:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: I have been practising Industrial Ecology since I independently coined the phrase in 1993. I have browsed the related articles and there is a fundamental difference in approach to this subject by academic institutions compared to my own. I therefore make the suggestion that Industrial Ecology be classified as either orthodox or traditional, which would define the difference in cognitive approach, for people endeavouring to learn about this subject.
I suggest that my approach be called Traditional Industrial Ecology, as it is based on the principles of traditional medicine and has an intellectual pedigree several thousand years old. The academic approach could be classified as Orthodox Industrial Ecology as its approach is more reductionist and suited to the rationale that evolved with the industrial revolution.
I only found a reference to Industrial Ecology this August, which caused me to look it up. Previously, as I had never encountered the term Industrial Ecology, I was under the impression that I was the only one.
How would this be achieved ?Dave 56142 (talk) 11:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditional Industrial Ecology 

message: Somebody changed the introductory paragraph and put his own description/impression of what industrial ecology is. Apart from the fact that his definition/description is outdated and omits many aspects of industrial ecology, it is completely unreferenced. Industrial Ecology is primarily a scientific field thus the article should be well referenced from reliable resources. Having said so, I will erase the first paragraph.--Elmerfadd (talk) 23:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not include unreferenced information 

message: The above observation raises the (existing) issue of providing some kind of definition for Industrial Ecology. There is no official and generally accepted definition of the field, thus I suggest that a new section is created where the most recent definitions of the field are given (as they appear on official sources like the international society or the journal of industrial ecology).--Elmerfadd (talk) 23:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section: Definition 

message: The principles section contains below table.
The table shows the general metaphor.
Biosphere	Technosphere
* Environment
* Organism
* Natural Product
* Natural Selection
* Ecosystem
* Ecological Niche
* Anabolism / Catabolism
* Mutation and Selection
* Succession
* Adaptation
* Food Web	
* Market
* Company
* Industrial Product
* Competition
* Eco-Industrial Park
* Market Niche
* Manufacturing / Waste Management
* Design for Environment
* Economic Growth
* Innovation
* Product Life Cycle
However, this table does not correspond to the text, where "society" is decomposed into the social and the technical. Therefore, I would suggest to develop an updated version of this table, which includes "Biosphere, Technosphere and Sociosphere", i.e. disentangle the entries currently in "Technosphere and place them in either Technosphere or Sociosphere.
The table shows the general metaphor.
Biosphere	Technosphere	Sociosphere
* Environment
* Organism
* Natural Product
* Natural Selection
* Ecosystem
* Ecological Niche
* Anabolism / Catabolism
* Mutation and Selection
* Succession
* Adaptation
* Food Web	
* -
* -
* Industrial Product
* -
* Eco-Industrial Park
* -
* Manufacturing
* Invention
* -
* -
* Product Life Cycle	
* Market
* Company
* -
* Competition
* -
* Market Niche
* Waste Management
* Diffusion / Innovation
* Economic Growth
* Design for Environment
* -
-- Chemeng062 (talk) 02:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for "Principles" 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Industrial ecology. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060106201301/http://www.nesh.ca/jameskay/www.fes.uwaterloo.ca/u/jjkay/pubs/IE/ie.pdf to http://www.nesh.ca/jameskay/www.fes.uwaterloo.ca/u/jjkay/pubs/IE/ie.pdf
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:11, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Industrial ecology. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added  tag to http://enpub.fulton.asu.edu/cesem/paper/PIE.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080210080326/http://www.earthportal.org/?p=364 to http://www.earthportal.org/?p=364
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Industrial ecology. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://arquivo.pt/wayback/20090710131517/http://www.is4ie.org/Default.aspx?pageId=215327 to http://www.is4ie.org/Default.aspx?pageId=215327
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 21:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: This article would benefit from a section discussing criticisms of the approach. Totorotroll (talk) 10:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: — Assignment last updated by QiweiDuan (talk) 02:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 200 - Thu