Talk:Oath of Allegiance (Canada)

message: An anon editor inserted a large amount of information regarding the legal challenge against the Oath of Citizenship by Charles Roach. Per the above earlier discussion, I removed this, though it was once again restored. The court case focuses on the Citizenship Act and its requirement that new citizens take the Oath of Citizenship, which, though it contains words of allegiance to the monarch, is not itself the Oath of Allegiance. Further, I'm not sure what reason there could be to have identically duplicated information on two separate articles. --Miesianiacal (talk) 13:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: The oaths of allegiance for CSIS and the RCMP have been replaced with oaths of office:
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.137.169 (talk) 22:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: CSIS and RCMP oaths

message: This article says: "Allegiance is not, however, given to that royal figure as an individual so much as to the Crown and other institutions and concepts the sovereign represents within both the federal and provincial spheres,[n 2][10][12]"
This is not true. The allegiance is very specifically given to the INDIVIDUAL who lawfully holds the Crown. That's because of s. 9 of the British North America Act, 1867, now called the Constitution Act, 1867, which says:
"III.   EXECUTIVE POWER 
Declaration of Executive Power in the Queen  9.  The Executive Government and Authority of and over Canada is hereby declared to continue and be vested in the Queen."
Source:  http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/const/const1867.html
What this means is that, in LAW, all the powers distributed by the Constitution to the Executives of the federal and provincial levels are VESTED in Elizabeth Windsor, personally, as the individual holding the Crown, making her LEGALLY LIABLE for abuse of power by any member of the various Executives.  The QUEEN's JOB is to protect the citizen (subject) from abuse of power; she SWORE a CORONATION OATH prescribed by ancient documents recognizing our rights and still valid and legally binding.  SHE must ensure that we always have those rights; HER job is to police and control her Executives to ensure they don't act in any way that deprives us of those recognized rights.
There are too many self-serving government people these days who don't want this known, so they pretend that ALLEGIANCE is merely "a technicality", or that it is NOT to the QUEEN herself (in particular by characteriznig her as a "foreign" Queen, or pretending that the oath of allegiance is "colonial", or is just "symbolic" of lip-service paid to "institutions".  This is all hogwash.  The OATH of allegiance is NOT COLONIAL, it's the only safeguard we all have as citizens of Canada against Executive abuse of power; and if we don't know this, we can't invoke the LEGAL RIGHT it confers on each and every one of us to call the Queen herself on the carpet if she doesn't do her job properly.  The Queen is not just some elitist, remote archetype or a member of a foreign royal family; she is an OFFICER OF THE CONSTITUTION OF CANADA, she has a written job description that was enacted in 1867, and if she doesn't see that it's done the way it's written, she can be REMOVED, as were Kings before her who also attempted to subvert the Constitution.  It would do us all good to remember those ancient revolutions; they prove that the PEOPLE have the power, and the purpose of that power is precisely to ENFORCE the LAWFUL CONSTITUTION, not overthrow it by kicking the monarch out for a new regime.
The OATH OF ALLEGIANCE is thus a promise TO THE PERSON who herself is already UNDER OATH to guarantee our rights. It's a promise not to embarass the monarch by violating the terms of her CORONATION OATH.
Kathleen Moore, HABEAS CORPUS CANADA
:This is all quote true.  The leading case is Calvin's Case.  Allegiance is due to the King or Queen by the law of nature, it is natural allegiance, if you are born within the Sovereign's Dominions.  Allegiance is owed to the natural body, so there is not one allegiance to the Queen of of Scotland, one to the Queen of England. We owe our allegiance to the Her Majesty the Queen.
:"It is true that the King hath two capacities in him : one a natural body, being descended of the blood Royal of the realm; and this body is of the creation of Almighty God, and is subject to death, infirmity, and such like; and the other is a politic body or capacity, so called, because it is framed by the policy of man (and in 21 E. 4. 39 b. is called a mysticall body ;) and in this capacity the King is esteemed to be immortal, invisible and not sbject to death, infirmity, infancy, nonage &c...Now, seeing the King hath but one person, and several capacities, and one politic capacity for the relam of England, and another for the realm of Scotland, it is necessary to be considered, to which acpacity ligeance is due.  And it was resolved that it was due to the natural person of the King (which is ever accompanied with the politic capacity, and the politic capacity as it were appropraited to the natural capacity), and it is not due to the politic capacity only, that is, to his Crown, or kingdom distinct frmo his natural capacity, and that for diver reasons..."  (7 Co. Rep. 10 b.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7A3C:9100:9CD8:82E3:71F9:AF1E (talk) 09:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: HCCanada

message: The Citizenship Act requires that all new Canadians swear an Oath of Allegiance to HM as well as promise to obey Canadian Law and do their duty as a Canadian Citizen.   The Act also mandates Citizenship Judges to administer the Oath.  Citizenship Judges are sworn in the same manner as MP's and other Judges.  Reference the Citizenship Act of Canada.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.156.109 (talk) 04:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Oath of Citizenship is a different oath to this one, despite containing some of the same words. It's also already mentioned at the end of the "Opposition and augmentation" section here. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 15:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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