Talk:Juggling world records

message: Please do not change major category titles (eg. "Clubs/Sticks" to "Clubs") without first discussing the reasons here in the talk page. In this case, simply removing the 9 stick flashes sets a problematic precedent, especially considering Willy Columbiano's recent flash with 9 "long, roughly cylindrical objects". Should his toy clubs be classed as clubs or sticks? First come up with a non-ambiguous and clear distinction between clubs and sticks, then discuss it here on the talk page. And even if a juggler used sticks and not clubs, the record should STILL be included on the page, under a different heading (like it already is) to add clarity, and should NOT be simply deleted without discussion. - Luke B.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.220.64.161 (talk) 10:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: On changing major categories and removing stick juggling records

message: Please read the top of the main article before removing or adding any record categories! This page is for 4 props only, with solo and two person juggling patterns only. Don`t go removing records just because you don't like them, or just because they aren't on the JISCON page. Don`t add new categories, if you know of a new record category that doesn`t already exist on this page, please add the record to the page of the juggler on wikipedia, or create another page such as "diabolo world records".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.199.30.165 (talk) 11:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: On removing and adding record

message: JISCON does not consider records involving the bouncing of balls. These have been removed. If the bouncing ball records are included then I see no reason why the records for say, diabolo, devilstick, poi, cigar box should not be added also as they are defined as juggling as well. The bouncing balls record and the unverified claims records clutter up the page a lot. As an example one could claim an unverified record and add it. Unverified claims are not suitable for this page. This of course assumes that JISCON has the authority on juggling records. Icci (talk) 12:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing other records

message: These have no place on this list as the 8 categories are clearly stated at the top of the main page. If a record that falls outside of these 8 categories is truly notable, please add it to the page of the juggler or create a new page about it. EG: Add Vova's pirouette record to Vova's page and Gatto's on Gatto's page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.177.170.45 (talk) 07:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pirouette and other non-numbers juggling records

message: Today in practice Richie Brennan was witnessed by several fellow jugglers flashing 14 beanbags
:This Brennan 14-ball flash was a private joke that started a rumor and it did not occur.  Jason Quinn (talk) 01:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: No Brennan 14-ball Flash

message: Removed the following from the article page:
The video of Luke Burrage getting 12 catches of 12 balls is FAKED, please stop adding his name to the list above (personal video).
This sort of information belongs on this disussion page - not the main article! --Colin E. 08:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Burrage 12 catches of 12 balls

message: I removed this entry " Best 3 ball routine by Ethan Obert in 2007" for obvious reasons Martinq22 21:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: His last ball hit the floor twice in the video, so he has failed. --Dozor6 (talk) 09:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for "catching" this. I've corrected the number of catches to 205, based only on the catches that I could see being thrown and caught. It's an odd number because of the drop with his right hand at the end. Thanar (talk) 05:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solo force bounce-8 bounce balls for 208 catches  

message: Which of these are official world records? Who maintains official world records for juggling? Guinness World Records? Mglovesfun (talk) 22:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several bodies that maintain official world records for juggling: Juggling Information Service Committee on Numbers Juggling (JISCON), Guinness World Records, and The Bounce Page. You can examine what subsets of juggling they cover by examining their websites in references 1-6 of the article. Any record in the article which has a reference to one of those organizations would be considered an official world record. Thanar (talk) 19:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official world records 

message: Firstly reference above '5 balls' . It is completely logical to include 5 and 6 ball records (if verifiable). How long they are is not relevant.
Secondly as part of my long term plan to make all juggling related pages link up, share the same information (if relevant to the specific article), and to reference articles properly I will be editing all juggling pages. Please do not revert my edits without discussion here first. Robynthehode (talk) 11:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links and references and definitions 

message: Removed from the page: "This is often called a 'flash' and some people do not regard this as juggling. Juggling is usually accepted as being where an object has been thrown and caught at least twice. For example juggling 7 objects is therefore only juggling when the throw and catch count exceeds 14."
The "some people" and "usually accepted" are weasel words, and add nothing to the assertion. The facts of the matter are that the entire "flash isn't juggling" is a misapplication of a very specific set of rules for a single numbers juggling competition to the wider world of juggling in general. It comes from this part of the rules: 
"Definition of a (Successful) Qualifying Run. To successfully qualify a given number of objects, an entrant (solo or team) must keep the pattern going without a drop long enough for each hand to make as many catches as there are objects being juggled. For instance, in solo juggling of eight balls, each hand must make eight catches before there is a drop; and in two-person passing of ten clubs, each hand must make ten catches before there is a drop." http://www.juggle.org/pastfestivals/2008/NumbersRules20080314.php
The only thing this "qualifies" is that then the juggler can compete at the next number of props. The above example means the juggler can now attempt to juggle nine balls. That "some people" then don't consider anything under this standard as "real juggling" (or whatever the claim is) is irrelevant to the records in question listed on this page. Also nobody who holds to this standard has ever said what kind of a trick 15 catches of eight balls is if it *isn't* a juggling trick. If it isn't juggling, what is it? And if it isn't juggling, should records under 2n catches be listed on a separate page than the records 2n and above?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.220.118.51 (talk) 09:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flash vs qualifying juggle 

message: Am I the only one who would like to see the best bouncing feats with the restriction that the bouncing surface must be the same floor where the juggler is standing on? At least as a separate category!
Vittorio Mariani (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You would need to provide a source that this is a notable record for this inclusion whether as a replacement or added section Robynthehode (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Bouncing records