Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 2

message: Which is the correct naming convention of the three samples below?
:Example (DVD)
:Example (dvd)
:Example (video disc)
The manual of style doesnt say much on this. Leanne 04:15, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd go with DVD if I had to choose from only those three. It isn't a video disk (video disks are a different technology from DVD, with a larger disk size). DVD was originally promulgated as Digital Video Disk and is now being changed to Digital Versatile Disk. DVD masks that change of full name. However, was it also released for SVCD (popular in Asia), VHS or Betamax video tape, television or cinema? Will it ever be released with any later video technology, like a successor to DVD 5 or 50 years from now? If the answer is yes, describing it by category of work (documentary, movie), year of creation or first publication, creator or publisher (with care - different publishers in different countries and over time) would probably be more prudent than using one specific technology. Best to avoid the technology if at all possible because we know that many works will be republished in different technology over time. Jamesday 17:41, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncategorized Contributions to this page 

message: In the Hispanic world, people receive as surnames both their mother's and father's. For example:
:Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti
However, in practice, only the paternal surname is used:
:Máxima Zorreguieta
There are a number of articles in the Wikipedia for Hispanic people which use the full name (ie, both surnames). This makes finding them hard (especially with search, alas, switched off), since most of the time you don't know the second surname. I propose as a naming convention the short version, with the full name indicated in body of the article (this is now alrady the case in many articles), such as the above-mentioned.
An exception might be for individuals of the same name. For example, Eduardo Frei was president of Chile from 1964 to 1970. But his eldest son was also president, from 1994 to 2000. So:
:Eduardo Frei Montalva (father)
:Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle (son)
Of course, an disambiguation page could also be used. 
Does this seem logical?
 -- Viajero 08:38, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean we're not doing this already? :-) The most general rule says to use "most common unambiguous form", which is consistent with what you're proposing. I suspect that in many cases people have used longer forms because they weren't sure if the paternal surname alone was appropriate. In any case, feel free to use the "Move this page" - the combination of shorter name and redir from the longer name will catch more references from elsewhere in the encyclopedia. In the case of Eduardo Frei, yes, it should disambiguate to two additional articles; see Matthew Perry for a similar situation. Stan 12:50, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)

text: I put this on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles). Andre Engels 13:50, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: As far as I know, pinyin diacritics are not being used. Also, more generally, diacritics that are not in ISO 8859-1 are not used in titles, and it seems you have already seen why. See Wikipedia:Special_characters for a list of the non-ASCII signs that can be used. Andre Engels 06:53, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hispanic family names 

message: I have not been able to find any guide or convention on naming and describing sexual minorities. Many style guides include this information, and excerpts dealing with gay/homosexual can be found on my user page. I think that this should be a larger product including the above "Black or black" discussion, on creating guidelines for Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (minorities) or :Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (diversity) or even :Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (identity politics).Hyacinth 00:11, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual Minorities 

message: For ruins of the Maya civilization I am currently favoring the format standard of the Corpus of Maya Inscriptions (a standard scholarly reference work): Spanish language place names get accent marks as in Spanish; Maya language place names only as in Maya. Thus I would like to move Chichén Itzá back to "Chichen Itza". I argue that "Chichén Itzá" is the Spanish language name, while "Chichen Itza" is both the Maya and the more common English language name. For further discussion, see also: Talk:Chichén Itzá. -- Infrogmation 21:52, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Names of Maya Ruins