Talk:Blazing Saddles

message: An editor deleted the starter section below on Sep 27, 2012. In case there is a more substantial development on this topic or if there is consensus that it should be return, here is a 2012 quote by Mel Brooks. 5Q5 (talk) 17:41, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I highly doubt that this material will see any progress.  "If they did a remake" =/= "indicating openness".  Not by any stretch of the imagination. DP76764 (Talk) 17:59, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am the editor who removed the above.  The quote is interesting and has merit, not for any claim about a remake, but because of Brooks' concern about the "N-word".  Some place could be found for it, but not for supporting a claim that he is considering a remake, which is dubious. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 19:36, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am the editor who started this post. You are right about its use as a good reference for the N-word controversy and today I added a couple of lines with the above Brooks quote to the article. I think I was excited about any prospect of a Blazing Saddles remake or sequel (preferred) and I had never come across Mel Brooks even remotely okaying the idea. Here are some Remake sections already on Wiki. Thanks. 5Q5 (talk) 18:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

text: The quote is a good addition (I thought it used to be in the article before), but the whole remake topic I find entirely dubious.  The difference between the other articles you mention and this one is that the sources cited in those actually clearly discuss the associated remakes.  Barring another source for this one, you're talking Apples v Oranges. DP76764 (Talk) 18:51, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Material for Remake section stored for future use

message: An editor is asserting that Mel Brooks is saying "This is 1874, you'll be able to sue high!" I'd like to see a source for this (and have marked it as such.) It makes no sense to me at all -- I've seen this movie perhaps fifty times, and my ears (which, incidentally, are quite familiar with Brooklyn accents) tell me it's the much more sensible "you'll be able to sue her!" Mind you, I can't find the actual script online, and every other reference in the world to this line agrees with me...Anyway, I don't like edit warring, so I'll leave it to someone else to correct this nonsense. --jpgordon::==( o ) 06:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Brooks is clearly saying "you'll be able to sue her," which makes sense in context because Hedy Lamarr could conceivably sue over the confusion with her name (and in fact did). Also, the closed captions and subtitles in all languages back up this as correct. I don't have the screenplay, but the novelization agrees with "sue her." So Keith, unless you have a source for "sue high," please don't change this back again. MFNickster (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's "her". Brooks was born in Brooklyn, but he still pronounces the trailing "r" reasonably well. Go to about 1:05 of this clip. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sue high" 

message: This "infamous" scene was one of the ones the Warner Bros executives wanted cut (which Brooks rightly refused).  I have a dim memory that there is actually a story in Greek mythology (or perhaps actual history?) in which a hero proved his strength by performing the identical feat (knocking out a horse or perhaps an ox with a single punch).  Can anyone enlighten me on this?  Thanks.  Partnerfrance (talk) 23:27, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not familiar with that story. If it's Greek, sounds like it might be Heracles or Hercules, maybe?  If not, Paul Bunyan?  (But why would Paul punch Babe the Blue Ox?)  Sorry, I got nothing here. BMK (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

text: I don't know of any mythology for such a thing, but Arnold punched out a camel in Conan. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 16:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Which was made after Blazing Saddles, so could hardly be an inspiration for it.  --Jayron32 17:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not saying it was an inspiration, but it might be cause for mistaking that scene for some mythological tale. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 19:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mongo punching the horse 

message: I happened to be watching "Witness for the Prosecution," which has its own page here on Wiki. I first noticed Marlene Dietrich speaking and having a slight impediment, which Madeline Kahn really emphasizes in her impression of Dietrich in "Blazing Saddles." Then came a flashback scene in "Witness" with Dietrich performing in a caberet for German troops in WWII. It was so much like Lili von Shtupp's performance in the saloon in BS that I wonder if Mel Brooks used "Witness" as inspiration for that scene. I checked both pages, and find no mention. It may be coincidence, but if there is a tie-in, it might be of interest to both articles. I am not a "real" researcher, so maybe someone could find a cite for this, if it exists. Thanks. Jororo05 (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There may be a connection, but for it to appear in either article, you're going to need to find a citation from a reliable source that specifically says that Brooks was influenced by the earlier film. BMK (talk) 02:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

text: According to Leonard Maltin's movie encyclopedia (p231) it's a direct spoof of Dietrich's performance as a saloon singer in Rancho Notorious. Would Leonard Maltin be considered a reliable source? 167.123.240.35 (talk) 05:32, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maltin is a well-known and respected critic. I don't see any problem with citing him. MFNickster (talk) 12:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible tie-in to "Witness for the Prosecution?" 

message: I am attempting to link to the Groin attack article in the line that references "shooting him in the groin." Another user (Beyond My Ken) insists that "shooting in the groin is NOT a 'groin attack.'" If a higher-ranking third party could provide some authority on this, it would be immensely appreciated. Thank you. Rowsdower45 (talk) 04:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: A groin attack describes a physical blow to the balls, it does not include being shot in the groin, and nothing in the article supports the idea that it does - that's your own WP:OR interpretation. Please do not edit war, as you maybe blocked from editing for doing so. Alos, please do not return your link to the article until you have a consensus to do so here on the talk page, which at this time you do not. Finally, avoid personal attacks such as "[Beyond My Ken] ... possibly does not understand the meaning of the word 'attack'", as personal attacks such as that can also get you blocked from editing. Please discuss the edits and not the editor. Thanks. BMK (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

text: *May I also say that this is the silliest RfC I've seen in a month of Sundays. BMK (talk) 03:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Groin attack

message: The article at groin attack defines the concept as "an attempt to cause pain to the groin area of one's opponent." A user editing this page disagrees that a man shooting another man in the groin falls under this definition, and therefore this article should not carry a link to that article. Please advise. Rowsdower45 (talk) 03:03, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *May I also say that this is the silliest RfC I've seen in a month of Sundays. BMK (talk) 03:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC

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message: The movie is filled with obvious anachronisms, but the sheriff explaining that he would need more vitamin E might not have been on the minds of the filmmakers.  Vitamins were not named as such until half a century after the movie's setting.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.251.147 (talk) 02:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If the film is "filled with obvious anachronisms" - which it is - why would you think that Brooks give a damn about when "vitamins" were named?  He was making a funny movie, not doing historical research. BMK (talk) 03:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes -- I don't understand why you've singled out that particular anachronism.  Were Nazi soldiers named as such in 1850?  Or Academy Awards?  Or Randolph Scott?  Or student discounts at movie theatres?  Or movie theatres?  Or ... oh, this is ridiculous; I could go on for several pages.  It's a movie.  Let it go. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 05:03, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably just singled out for it being possibly unintentional; but I really doubt Mel Brooks or the other writers bothered to look up when vitamin E was discovered. I also doubt there were sex shows in Havana in 1874, but the reference was used in Godfather: Part II so it was topical for the time. MFNickster (talk) 01:38, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but what exactly does this section have to do with improving the article?  It doesn't seem to be suggesting any content, just making commentary. DP76764 (Talk) 16:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  unintentional anachronism? 

message: The Wikiquote page - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Blazing_Saddles - mentions that the line 'Land snatching. [searches books] "L-l-land. See snatch."' is changed to finish "see property", presumably because 'snatch' is slang for vulva and 'see snatch' could be considered rude by anyone so minded.
If they change that, how much else of the original dialogue is left?!? The censorship would be notable. Lovingboth (talk) 16:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw it on TV two nights ago and they included "see snatch" as written. This was, however, on cable, rather than broadcast TV, if that makes a difference. More to your point, they DID still edit out the N word and the F word that describes a bundle of twigs. I find it ironic that this film does not celebrate racism but rather pokes fun at it and they still censor certain words. Yet, you can hear 90% of rap songs using the same words, as well as the works of comedians such as Richard Pryor who, coincidentally, had a writing credit on this film. I doubt that you'll ever see this film uncut on television again. FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 14:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  US TV version 

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message: Bergman wrote the entire first draft of Blazing Saddles, called "Tex X," by himself. Much of this article contains false information that comes from Brooks himself, who has always tried to diminish everyone else's contribution. Also, it says "Tex X" was sold to Mel Brooks; it was not; it was sold to Warner Bros. This whole article would be better off listening to The Library of Congress (https://www.loc.gov/programs/static/national-film-preservation-board/documents/blazing_saddles.pdf) and other sources rather than anything Brooks has had to say. He is not a trustworthy source about this film or Young Frankenstein (and I mention those alone because they are the only ones I know about; he's probably a bad source for everything.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:102:3590:5C9D:4566:C41A:54DA (talk) 19:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brooks did not expand Bergman's "outline" 

message: According to WP:CATDEF, the instructions say that the category should represent a defining characteristic, "one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define." If the Klu Klux Klan appears in a film, the film is not necessarily categorized as a film depicting the KKK. The KKK category would be implemented only if reliable sources commonly define the film as one about the KKK. It's not enough to have sources mention the KKK along with Nazis, Hell's Angels and Arab horsemen – the source must be saying that Blazing Saddles is a film that is about the KKK. Binksternet (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories represent defining characteristics 

message: The section on the "Black Bart" pilot contains three long unsourced quotes -- from Louis Gossett Jr., Steve Landesberg, and Mel Brooks -- about the existence of multiple unaired seasons of "Black Bart," made for legal purposes only.  I have been unable to find ANY of these interviews or quotes anywhere else on the internet.  The only searchable material asserting that the series ever existed is sourced from this Wikipedia entry.  74.71.26.69 (talk) 23:22, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Now removed for two reasons.
# It's a copyright violation of 
# The writer of the FB post has confirmed via  that it's all made up anyway and completely untrue (see also ). Nthep (talk) 14:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Black Bart" TV series 

message: Why can't we see what edits were made during this period? Ron Stowmarket (talk) 03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: see the section above. The article contained a large amount of copyrighted material so the revisions with that material in had to be deleted. Nthep (talk) 08:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits Made Between July 2016-July 2020