Talk:United Airlines Flight 811

message: The numbers of fatalities, survivers, crew and passengers dont sum up right: 337 passengers +18 crew equals 355 in total. 347 survivors +9fatalities makes 356...
: Indeed, the survivors numbers' was off by one: it should have read 346 & not 347! But next time you can fix it yourself! :) --Vlad 12:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers 

message: I would remove the image of the EPR indications, because the B747-100 doesnt have EICAS displays.
Dougsnow (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: An electrical switch designed to cut electrical power to the cargo door when the outer handle was closed was faulty; the motors could still draw power.
In railway signalling, important circuits are double switched, so that two false feeds of the right polarity are needed to cause a false green.  How about Flight 811?
Tabletop (talk) 12:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the case of all 747 cargo doors, at the time, only the powered cable (circuit) was open-circuited by the switch. Any short-circuit from a live source would cycle the door-lock motor. Lin (talk) 11:38, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double or Single switched? 

message: Could an expert clean up some of the jargon in this article? For example what is N1? Jschnur (talk) 02:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Aircraft engines, just like car engines, are monitored for their rotational speed using a tachometer. However, unlike a piston engines, many turbine engines have multiple rotating assemblies called spools which can turn at different speeds, requiring multiple tachometers. These tachometers are referred to as N1 and N2; some engines such as the RB211 include an N3. So basically, when the article says that the pilot was getting low or no N1 reading, it means that a large part of the engine either wasn't turning or the tach was broken. Shreditor (talk) 00:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that Shreditor. I have used your helpful explanation in the article. I hope you don't mind. Jschnur (talk) 03:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, the engine and gauge diagram shows the wrong kind of engine (tape) gauges. United did not have those kinds in the cockpits of their 747-100s.  They all were equipped with the analogue (round) engine gauges. You can see what those kind actually looked like, here. EditorASC (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is N1? 

message: The article currently states "two rows of seats (8G-12G and 8H-12H)".  Could someone check that?  That would seem to be 5 rows.  If 8 and 12 were adjacent, then it should probably be a comma, not a dash and a note explaining that 8 and 12 were adjacent rows.  --J Clear (talk) 14:20, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorted.  It was five rows by two columns of seats that were lost.  --66.92.238.5 (talk) 15:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a diagram of where these seats were located in the plane, that can be included in the article? I haven't flown in a plane, so don't really know the seat configuration. Don't bother if finding a diagram is too much trouble, just would make it easier to visualize. Bucky winter soldier (talk) 21:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seat rows 

message: I'm greatly disappointed in the lack of quality photos in this article.  I'm sure free use rules (or whatever they're called) are to blame, but damn--when this happened there were dozens of graphic photos showing the damage in broad daylight.  And that was before the internet. I would have to think that one of these could be used.  This was simply a shocking sight to those who were around back then. 98.71.252.15 (talk) 02:53, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean look at this; it tops anything this article has by far. 98.71.252.15 (talk) 02:56, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

text: The picture that you link to was from a different aircraft and incident than this one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.229.227 (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappointing picture 

message: the blurb for "on this day" says that nine passengers were killed "when their seats were sucked out of the plane."  as a result of uncontrolled decompression.  It is basically impossible that the decompression "sucked" the seats out of the plane. The seats may have been blown out of the plane by virtue of the fact that the plane was moving at ~Mach 0.9 when a piece of the hull failed, but they were almost certainly not "sucked out"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.223.87 (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with "on this day" statement 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A bit disturbing, is the wikipedia  refusal to mention
   NTSB investigator err.
Look through this wiki-page on NTSB's  _INVESTIGATION_  of UA811/ 24Feb89:
  Not any acknowledgement of investigator-err,
   the USA's "independent" Safety Board
  had both the Boeing-version,  and the Campbells' hypothesis
  {wiki' blocks that link to the video describing  Kevin Campbell's  correct P.C. for UA811} .
Similarly,  on two other wiki-pages
  USA's NTSB and 
 [N840TW/4Apr79]]
  wiki-participants  blocked explicit acknowledgement of
 misconduct or investigator-err.
Censored?  Is the topic of NTSB-err simply blasphemy?
Related:  Scientific Misconduct,  and  NTSB's Party System .
IGhhGI (talk) 20:19, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Investigator-Err 

message: Anyone noticed there's something strange going on in the lead section? Every couple of days an IP is using it as a test bed for unit conversion and then just as mysteriously deletes it and goes away until the next time! Very odd. It almost looks as if they have a bot running specifically to do this for some unknown reason. The edit is always removed so it doesn't leave any lasting vandalism but it's just getting a bit irritating now so I wondered if there was anything we can do to stop it. I've already tried warning them on their Talk page but it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Rodney Baggins (talk) 06:13, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I first noticed it 4-5 weeks ago but I never did anything about it. Maybe get an admin involved? - Samf4u (talk)  15:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought it up in the Teahouse and the advice was to just warn the IP user, so that's what I did but it hasn't made any difference yet. If it continues I'll see if I can get an admin involved, maybe block the IP. Rodney Baggins (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have semi-protected it for a few months but we need to be watch the IP doesnt choose another article for "testing". MilborneOne (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghost edits 

message: Typo: "An NTSB photograph from the final report depicting the damage down to United 811"
"damage down" should be damage DONE 2600:1700:BF10:69D0:A8B5:3D9E:A2AD:F06C (talk) 22:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo in caption of the first picture of the article 

message: I notice the link to a google maps, followed it, saw nothing. Any ideas? or just a gag link?
98.224.129.251 (talk) 22:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Resting Place?