Talk:Golden Gate (Jerusalem)

message: PLEASE! It's an encyclopedia! Mention all fairy tales, folklore, religious lore, etc. you want - I love it all, good fiction is better than any reality - but present it as such & separately from facts. The latter need confirmation from written sources, archaeologists and alike. Thanks. Arminden (talk) 12:09, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep religion and traditions apart from objective facts

message: "The Muslims also built a cemetery in front of the gate, allegedly in the belief that the precursor to the Messiah, Elijah, would not be able to pass through since he is a cohanim."
I thought that this cementary was built by the Jewish (HAR HAZEITIM) awaiting for the Messiah to come...
:The Mount of Olives is across the valley. This cemetary is built on the slopes of the Temple mount. Daniel Tzvi 20:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can click on the photo (if you have not already done so) for more information, then on the word "photochrom" to learn about the colorizing process (consistent with that vintage). Hertz1888 (talk) 08:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscelaneous

message: Does Ezekiel 44:1-3 really belong in this article?  If so, how about some context?  Just having it there as a "conclusion" is kinda jarring.  IMHO, of course.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biblical verse 

message: The text claiming that the gate was sealed "to prevent the Messiah's entrance" is a myth. The Hebrew wikipedia has more relevant information about this. The Hebrew wikipedia says:
"The sealing, made by Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent in the 16th century helped the Jewish tradition of the coming messiah as if his coming was obstructed by foreign forces. In fact, the Sultan ordered the blocking of the gate as part of the wall surrounding Jerusalem, making the eastern wall of the Temple Mount part of the city wall. He sought to ensure the security of Jerusalem, without having to place guards at the gate.
After blocking the gate, he turned the area outside the eastern wall into a Muslim cemetery, and thus was born the legend among the Jews, as if the Muslims were trying to prevent the coming of the Messiah, since a Cohen couldn't go in the cemetery, lest he becomes unclean, thus preventing the redemption of the Jews. In fact it is probably a folklore designed to make fun of Muslims, for the Messiah is not a Cohen (he's of the Tribe of Judah - "Messiah son of David") but also the graves of gentiles are not impure. Impurity from gentiles is only by direct contact or carrying a corpse".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.196.24 (talk) 15:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect information 

message: The opening contained the line "It has been walled up since medieval times, in fulfilment of prophecy (Ezekiel 44:1-3)". I removed the second half of the sentence because an encyclopedia is not able to determine whether prophecy has been fulfilled or not. Later on, the article mentions Ezekiel 44:1-3 to describe how people interpret the sealing of the gate, which is more appropriate for an article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.57.116.223 (talk) 22:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I only saw this article today, but totally concur with your edit; not only because Wikipedia cannot make such judgments, but because that Bible verse has nothing to say about any current gates in the walls of Jerusalem! The topic of Ezekiel 44 concerns a wall in an as yet still future temple! People really need to understand the CONTEXT of anything they read in the Bible before making any statements about what it reveals to us. Daniel B. Sedory (talk) 22:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prophecy 

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message: In the text I read:
"In Christian apocryphal texts, the gate was the scene of the meeting between the parents of Mary after the Annunciation, so that the gate became the symbol of the virgin birth of Jesus".
This is completely wrong. The encounter happened after the annunciation to the father of Mary that he and his wife Anna would have a baby, not after the Annunciation to Mary that she would give birth to Jesus. So, it became the symbol of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, not the symbol of the virgin birth of Jesus.
Please correct it. It is really a blunder. 84.18.132.44 (talk) 08:35, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just the link to Annunciation was wrong - this is still sometimes called the "Annunciation to Joseph" which no doubt confused somebody. Now links to Saint Joseph's dreams. Johnbod (talk) 12:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, but the article still refers to the gate as the symbol of the virgin birth of Jesus, which is incorrect. It should refer to the immaculate conception of Mary which, as you may know, is a completely different dogma. Thanks. 84.18.132.44 (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry - changed, That was what the ref said too!  This complete idiot made the false addition an alarmingly long time ago. Johnbod (talk) 15:20, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gigantic error in the text