Talk:Beit El

message: Please stop with the POV vandalism. Why is it not POV vandalism to right articles about Arab cities Pro-Arab but not not to make articles about Jewish cities Pro-Jewish? 68.80.133.163 02:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
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message: I'm not very happy with the identification of Bethel section, but I'm going to cite both sources. One is quite old and may not reflect modern scholarship - but equally it may, and it's clearly the basis for our article on Bethel itself. The other is a far-right Israeli website which may well reflect a political bias. WP policy on reliable sources indicates that extremist organisations should only be taken as a reliable source for information regarding themselves, and gives Hamas as an example of such an organisation. Clearly, Hamas isn't by any means as extremist, in the context of Palestinian politics, as this website appears to be in the context of Israel politics. Nevertheless, I think it might as well be included. Palmiro | Talk 18:20, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Took control of" is a ridiculous euphemism used only to avoid using the word "occupied", which is far more precise. Palmiro | Talk 15:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, on your other point, I did not "remove the identification of the West Bank with Judea and Samaria". "Samaria" appears in the first line, and I left it there. I took out the repetition. I don;t see why every time the West Bank is mentioned we have to give an alternative name. We don't, as far as I know, do this for any other place whose name is a source of controversy. In fact, as far as I can see, we generally only give the alternate names in the article on that topic, if you look for example at references to "Persian Gulf", "Londonderry", "Northern Ireland", "Macedonia" I think you will see that that is normal. So the version I had already gave the alternative name more recognition than we normally do in such cases. Given that this represents, in my view, a balanced approach, I think both your immediate revert and your peremptory remarks here were quite uncalled for. Palmiro | Talk 23:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: identification of Bethel

message: The page layout is confusing. For some reason all the edits are located at the bottom of the page. I would love to fix it, but I don't know how and would really appreciate if someone else did. Leppi 10:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Layout

message: I think those words are extraneous when describing the ancient location of bethel. Anyone can open up the link for themselves and see that it is a pro-settlement website. The fact that it is a pro-settlement website does not seem to a piece of information that is relevant to the article, but something that should be put only in the footnote. Leppi 07:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  pro settelment website 

message: How can there be no mention of Rabbi Shlomo Aviner???Eliezerh 21:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, as you get to know wikipedia, you'll understand that there is n 'editor' and that all pages can be editied and improved by anyone. If there is something wrong, it is commendable to fix it, no questions are needed. One nice thing about wikipedia is this principle WP:AGF. We do not assume alterior motives from the start and at most accept that whoever inserted that sentence might have been ignorant of other information. I've since made the change. On the town website both are presented see here. --Shuki 09:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok. Referring to an 'editor' is a bit vague since multiple people have edited the article. It's hard to disect edits to a specific editor unless you can actually pinpoint the specific edit of that line. Gicen that, it's not really possible to erase anyone notable from wp, and I suggest you read WP:NPOV. You will discover that even opponents' claims are legitimate info in WP. And FWIW, the facts are whatever you can find a reliable source (WP:RS) for. For now, the main website is a pretty strong testimonial. The Hebrew WP does not even mention a 'chief rabbi' but rather two neighbourhood rabbis, an altogether different status. --Shuki 19:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Alas, a good compromise. See here: Chief_Rabbi#Israel. I admit that 'chief rabbi' is a simple term that says a lot. In Hebrew, the term 'city rabbi', or 'village rabbi' is used, do you suggest to instead use these titles on other articles? --Shuki 22:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rav Aviner 

message: This settlement is not part of Israel, so in the interests of being factually correct I've removed that reference. I've also changed the words 'civilians' to 'Israeli settlers' because that best reflects who arrived there and doesn't give the impression that no-one lived in that area before Israeli settlers arrived. --Whirlygirly  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whirlygirly (talk • contribs) 22:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Identifying the country as Israel

message: My family owned land in that area during the 19th century but I noticed that the "peace now" report is discriminating between Jewish ownership of land and Muslim ownership of land. This report has to be removed from the reference / quote list, but because I didn't want to vandlise the page I just added a note on that with a reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.223.46 (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Peace Now" report not reliable.

message: The edit made by Whirlygirly is bias, based on her/his own ideological stands, and unsupported by reliable sources. It needs to be changed. Yogi Bearstein (talk) 03:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: I tried to click the link regarding a citation to verification that the "land was owned by a 7 year old Palestinian" and the link is incorrect.  It only points to an article in Haaretz that is non-authoritative.  Rather than alter someone elses submission I put a note behind the citation that there is a problem with it.  I didn't say the information was wrong or right, I just asked for an accurate verification of the claim the citation supposedly verifies.  I've searched pretty exhaustively and cannot find any verification of that claim so if someone has something concrete please correct the citation and feel free to delete my note.  If I could find verification I would have done all that myself. CloaknDagr (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Peace Now" citation missing or incorrect. 

message: The whole section is sourced to here: http://writingtw.blogspot.com/2009/11/court-to-govt-why-destroy-beit-el.html .  this doesn't seem like a reliable source for anything.  Furthermore, the paragraph:
==House demolition==
In November 2009, the Israeli Supreme Court ordered the state to explain within 30 days why it had ordered the demolition of ten buildings in Beit El. The attorney for Kiryat HaYeshiva Beit El company presented documentation showing that the land on which the buildings stand was legally purchased from the previous Arab owner. The buildings are located on the lower heights of Pisgat Yaakov, also known as Jabal Artis, overlooking Beit El to the south and west.<:ref>Supreme Court to Government: Why Destroy Beit El Buildings</ref>
is plagiarized from the blog.  I'm moving it here for comments and until a reliable source can be found, for which I'm looking now.  I wouldn't have removed the paragraph if it weren't plagiarized, but just noted that the source is not reliable.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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message: The external website for the community has changed from bet-el.muni.il to bet-el.info Evan Pokroy - Nullius In Verba 13:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  — Ammarpad (talk) 16:08, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 November 2017