Talk:Forbes Field

message: Forbes was older than Wrigley. Shibe was steel and concrete, and opened sooner than Forbes. There was something about a fire. I'll have to look into that, but the older copies of Take Me Out to the Ballpark have photos of the demolition. Shibe suffered a fire, but I'm not at all sure the story about a fire at Forbes is correct, and should be omitted until we can be sure. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 10:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have sources to back up everything that the article says. Shibe was only partially steel and concrete, part of the grandstand was still wood when it was remodeled. I was also confused about the demolition—I'll look back at Take Me Out to the Ballpark—but the Diamonds says it burnt, perhaps it burnt and the rest was demolished? As for Wrigley, I'll have to look into that, but the Bucs '95 yearbooks does say "At that point, only Chicago's Wrigley Field had been in service longer than Forbes Field, which opened in 1909." But then again, the article is about Three Rivers Stadium, so perhaps something was overlooked. Blackngold29 15:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yankee Stadium was also only "partially steel and concrete" when it opened in 1923. It wasn't all concrete until the bleachers were rebuilt around 1938. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 17:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact issues 

message: I edited the photo :Commons:Image:Forbes Field football.jpg to remove the "Copyright Old Yankee maps" watermark. Check out the  for more information.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 17:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Looks good. Blackngold29 18:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Image:Forbes Field football.jpg]]

message: Forbes hosted a mine rescue contest in 1911 that was attended by President William Taft. And interesting fact I think can be included. Details here. Grsz11 22:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a pretty odd event, seems notable to me. Go for it. blackngold29 22:14, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also found some images, though I'm not positive where they fit best, or how to work them around the quote boxes. Do you want to do FA on this? Grsz11 22:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The :File:Forbes Field aerial1.JPG picture is copyrighted and shouldn't be here as there are plenty of other free images; the FA reviewers wouldn't like that either. I think we could do an FA; I would like to put it up for a peer review and go over it a few more times before the nom. We can probably remove the Jim Woods quote about empty seats and move a picture there. blackngold29 22:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, I was just thinking about the image. Did you prefer the newer (outside) image for the infobox? Grsz11 22:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The :File:Forbes Field exterior.jpg? Yes, I like that one for the infobox as it's more clear than than the current one. We could probably keep that one somewhere in the article. blackngold29 22:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Hmm, I like it too, but it's pretty blurry. I'd probably hold off on that one for now. blackngold29 22:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mine safety 

message: I uploaded this  on the wikia baseball site. I gather they have rather less restrictive rules, but we'll find out. In any case, this is a frame from Angels in the Outfield that shows the batting cage and the Dreyfuss monument on the playing field in the background. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Great shot, I've never seen the old version, I think I'll have to pick it up some time.  H1nkles (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On User talk:Blackngold29 I've linked a couple more possibly interesting screenshots. I must tell you that what caught my attention with that old movie, other than the baseball stuff, is how stunning the young Janet Leigh was. Just to let you know I don't think about baseball all the time. :) I hasten to add that she's not in the screenshots I uploaded. That's just a side comment. The movie is available on DVD. I got it from Barnes & Noble not too long ago. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, here's Janet  disgustedly watching the inept Pirates. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Batting cage, etc.

message: This photo doesn't look like any part of Forbes Field, no matter what its source claims. We're better off omitting it, so we don't look stupid. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 22:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, that is odd. I agree that it doesn't look like Forbes (not that any of us would know what it looked like in 1913), but the source clearly says it is. The picture should be in the Homestead Grays article, but should probably be omitted from this article because it doesn't clearly show Forbes. blackngold29 22:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the source  does not state that this is Forbes Field. It says that "In later years the Homestead Grays, playing at Forbes Field here and Griffith Stadium in Washington, won eight out of nine Negro National League titles." The word "here" refers to Pittsburgh itself, not the photo, pointing out that they shared Pittsburgh and Washington as home fields. In fact, the Grays seem to have been largely (or maybe fully) a barnstorming team in their early years. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Lowry book, Green Cathedrals, states that the Grays tenure here was during 1939-1948. The also played at Washington, of course. I don't see anything to indicate where they played in the 1910s or 20s. They did share Greenlee Field with the Crawfords for a year or two prior to settling at Forbes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homestead Grays 1913 

message: Succession boxes exists for all tenants. One editor insists that only the Pitt Panther succession box should be removed because it falls under the authority of the College Football Wikiproject. No authority exists for any one Wikiproject nor does such a policy exist across Wikipedia. Removing the box leaves the Events and Tenants listing incomplete. Please leave your commentary about whether it is appropriate to remove the Pitt Panthers or other succession boxes for this article. CrazyPaco (talk) 23:20, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any reason to delete it. This is a matter of a style that's widely-used in articles. A specific project doesn't have any authority over it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The other editor and I are close to engaging in an edit war. Can you please add your comments at those pages. I also do not feel I can continue to revert his edits without also engaging in an edit war. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:49, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All the ballpark pages are on my watch list. If he reverts again without commenting here, I'll go after him. Don't revert it again yourself, as it would be seen as edit-warring even though you're not violating the 3-revert rule yet. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The succession boxes are sort of a side discussion about an overall strict standardization of college football team-specific navboxes templates. In essence, he has come up with a style and and is going through every college football team group and forcing not only the style, but which articles should be included, as well as which categorizations of those articles should be and disallowing any customization an a team-by-team basis, and without regards to other Wikiprojects those articles fall under, and irregardless of whether many of the articles are redlinked (particularly season by season articles). With him being a being a primary editor of Big Ten articles, forcing those standards on dissimilar teams (and Pitt, which I primarily edit, isn't even that dissimilar), but to me it doesn't make sense at all, IMO. I have listed that discussion as an RfC. If such guidelines were adopted and spread outside that project, it would in essence force the Pittsburgh Pirates to employ a navbox identical to the New York Yankees, or any other team, irregardless of what individual customization would make sense for each particular franchise (for instance, removing Momument Park honorees from the Yankees Navbox).  I've engaged this strict standardization movement now, because I fear its spread, and because this one size fits all approach is not employed anywhere else as far as I know, probably for good common sense reasons, IMO. I'm not opposed to general guidelines, but rather the forced inclusion of articles or article categories in a navbox that don't make sense for one team, and the forced exclusion of others. And if you have any thoughts on that, your comments would be appreciated on that issue as well. CrazyPaco (talk) 01:16, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I recommend that you visit with User:Killervogel5, who takes a strong interest in all things having to do with sports in Pennsylvania, or at least in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. [Or I'll do it.] ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:38, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep Succession Boxes Seems like this is déjà vu all over again.  Without hearing from this editor directly my assumption of good faith is being tested with this borderline and repetitive "delete" vandalism, especially when to me the essence of Wikipedia is to be a cited fact based encyclopedia of knowledge . . . in that specific sense the worst possible thing to befall us all is deletion of cited facts down the proverbial memory hole.  Thanks to CP for alerting me to these and doing his best to retain this data, at this moment I will believe that this editor does have some misguided though reasoned explanation, but even with a reason, consensus should be gained and at least attempted before systemic deletions of facts.  Its my sincere hope that any widespread deletions are discussed on talk pages long long before being used to slice up wikipedia articles.   Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way 17:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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