Talk:Obstetrics and gynaecology

message: This article has been listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion in the past. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obstetrics and gynecology for the discussion archive.
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No "M.O." here.. . terminiation of pregnancy is not actually the most common gynaecological operation:
# http://www.google.com/search?q=%22most+common+gynecological+operation%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
# http://health.bcbstx.com/archive/199810-healthy_options.htm
# http://www.premierhealthcare.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?article_id=24
# http://wind.caspercollege.edu/~dbennatt/2020/Lect/ExamVIII/chpt28.htm
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:Except they're wrong, and searching for "most common gynecological operation" on GOOGLE is a bad verification technique. In any case you need to clarify WHERE, but for any given place, compare annual rates of hysterectomies (the answer your citation gives, which in the US, is 600,000) vs termination of pregnancy (in the US, more than 1 million)... -- Someone else 23:17, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: This article seems like it might need to be deleted, but I went ahead and cleaned it up anyways. --Pagrashtak 7 July 2005 20:17 (UTC)
This page could be kept if it were cleaned up a bit, also there is no definition of O&G anywhere on the page... I am in no way medically inclined, but if someone could do the honours, that would make my day. haz (user talk) 19:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no consensus; however, the first move ("americanize spelling") was uncalled for and not in GF, IMO. Therefore, I've reverted it. —Nightstallion (?) 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion discussion 

message: I vote that it be renamed in accordance to the british spelling, As it is the most commonly used.
I back this move 100%.
augrunt 06:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2nd the Vote for a Move 

message: Could someone with access to the knowledge write something on the history of this specialism? When specific doctors first called themselves gynaecologists or the like? OED 1872 T. G. THOMAS Dis. Women 41 Gynæcologists ranged themselves into two parties. 1867 New Syd. Soc. Retrosp. 368 Gynæcology, embracing the Physiology and Pathology of the non-pregnant state. 1876 (title) Transactions of the [American] Gynecological Society. 
131.111.161.131 (talk) 09:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: The usage of  and the naming of Obstetrics (Midwifery) is under discussion, see talk:Obstetrics (Midwifery) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Midwifery" and "Obstetrics (midwifery)"

message: What's the history of this weird abbreviation?  Why is it usually written in all-caps?  And when did people become too lazy to use the individual words - was this a 20th-century thing, or older? 86.191.247.118 (talk) 22:46, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't expect to to remain the same. Things ought to change Favourdennis (talk) 13:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't a "weird abbreviation"! All medical specialties use abbreviations to be concise. In the UK, O&G is most common. In the U.S. and Canada, we use OB-GYN. No one has time or wants to write out obstetrics and gynecology every time. It is the same with fields like pediatric oncology (peeds onco), cardiology (cards), nephrology (neph), etc.--FeralOink (talk) 15:51, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: OB-GYN

message: Hi! I'm planning on adding more information to the OBGYN certification processes for both the U.S. and U.K., and other countries if I can find them. 
However, my largest edit would be the actual reorganization of the page sections. I would like to retitle the current "Education and Training (residency)" section--which includes information on OB/GYN certification in the U.S. and U.K.--to "Certification process by country". I would then like to begin a new section, "Education and training in residency", which would focus more on the actual content of residency programs (rather than the OB/GYN certification process) and would include new developments in OB/GYN curriculums, like LGBTQ+ specific healthcare training. 
I am doing Wikipedia edits through at class at the university level, so I am new to Wikipedia. If you have any thoughts or feedback I would love to hear it! Please let me know.--Maralogan (talk) 00:47, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! I just added a new section entitled "Inclusive Approaches to Care." Please let me know what you think, I'm open to feedback and I'm sure more edits need to be made. My intent with this section was to shed light on how critical OB-GYNs are in relation to LGBTQ+ health, which I didn't see mentioned elsewhere on the page. --Maralogan (talk) 04:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Reorganization: "Education and training(residency)" 

message: Like obviously the topic has importance and I don't deny that. However, the vast majority of this article seems like it would be far better placed in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_and_the_LGBT_community
Right now "inclusivity" takes up more or less 2/3 of this article. I feel like its relevance is minimal at best and this massive, bloated, multiple section long rambling should be condensed into a much smaller section on the main article page to keep the focus of the article on the actual topic at hand, rather than an offshoot topic like inclusivity problems for LGBT patients.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benfjamison (talk • contribs) 15:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. At least two-thirds (66%) of this article about obstetrics and gynecology is focused on transgender and non-binary care. I just edited the massive inclusive care section, and found that a lot of the mention of lesbian and bisexual women was not included in the sources. The sources actually say that lesbian and bisexual women have mostly the same gynecological and obstetric care needs as heterosexual women. That means that even more of the article is ONLY about transgender people. That is WP:UNDUE.--FeralOink (talk) 15:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  "The sources actually say that lesbian and bisexual women have mostly the same gynecological and obstetric care needs as heterosexual women." Big surprise there, as their sexuality has no effect on their physiology. Dimadick (talk) 14:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Wikipedia Expert by any means, but the fact that the majority of this article on a medical profession is attempting to discuss and push an agenda on LGBT patient care seems absolutely bizarre to me.