Talk:Ariel (moon)

message: Isn't Ariel (which was discovered at the same time as Umbriel) named after the Ariel in Pope's Rape of the Lock rather than the one in The Tempest? john k 21:37, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're right about this, actually - well spotted. The Singing Badger 13:36, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Second furthest?  What does that mean exactly?  The lead says second closest, the FA says second closest.  Second futhest implies their is only one further away.  Arzel (talk) 00:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been fixed but the two sections below have not. Mni9791 (talk) 01:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  second furthest 

message: "Ariel is named after the leading sylph in Pope's poem The Rape of the Lock."
Uncited information for some reason in the FA. Ariel is Belinda’s guardian sylph, who oversees an army of invisible protective deities in The Rape of the Lock.This is a reliable source: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/18/us/earth-tradition-holds-sway-for-naming-heavenly-orbits.html Mni9791 (talk) 01:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone address the above???? Mni9791 (talk) 12:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The source you cite does not make the claim you argue. However, I can change it to "a sylph". Serendipodous 12:27, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. How about this book as a source, Cosmic Challenge: The Ultimate Observing List for Amateurs by Philip S. Harrington. The source says verbatim: "four major moons of Uranus.... Ariel was the leading sylph in Alexander Pope's Rape of the Lock and a spirit who serves Prospero in Shakespeare's The Tempest. (Look at the source yourself here: ) Mni9791 (talk) 02:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Serendipodous 08:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Need source

message: "...Ariel orbits and rotates in the equatorial plane of Uranus, which is almost perpendicular to the orbit of Uranus, granting...": should it be "perpendicular to the orbital plane of Uranus" instead of just "orbit"? (and for other similar references to orbital plane, too.) 
Prabhakar (talk) 01:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Orbit Vs Orbital Plane

message: Given that both Pope's and Shakespeare's characters called Ariel are named for Ariel (angel), it seems remiss to describe the origins of the name without reference to this figure.  Suggest it is named for a sky spirit in Alexander Pope's The Rape of the Lock and Shakespeare's The Tempest, and ultimately to an angel in Judeo-Christian mysticism.  Kevin McE (talk) 06:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno. We'd need a reference stating that both Pope and Shakespeare deliberately drew the name from the angel. It may simply be that the angel's name entered folklore and became the name for a sky spirit, or even that the sky spirit's name evolved to sound like the angel's.  Serendipodous 07:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you really suggesting that Shakespeare happened to pick a name out of thin air that happened to be identical to that used in the Judaeo Christian mystical tradition in which he was thoroughly versed, and gave the character with that name an almost identical role to its predecessor, without that having been an influence.  We may as well refuse to acknowledge that the story of MacBeth had anything to do with the Scottish king of that name because we don't have contemporary reliable sources that prove that this is who the Bard was thinking about.  Kevin McE (talk) 20:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm suggesting nothing. You are making a point. That point must be sourced. Wikipedians are not historians. We only report what other people say. Serendipodous 20:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete origin of name 

message: I wanted to say congrats to everyone who worked on this page for getting this moon to be Today's Featured Article! (I suppose you could say that you editors mooned the Main Page. :-) ) Wabbott9 Tell me about it.... 18:20, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: lol! Thanks. As a rule I don't push for FAs to be put on the main page, but I'm always grateful if it means a nice comment like that. :) Serendipodous 18:31, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today's FA 

message: On 26 July 2006, the Hubble Space Telescope captured a rare transit made by Ariel across the face of Uranus, during which the satellite cast a shadow that could be seen on the Uranian cloud tops.
What satellite is the article talking about? Of course, we are talking about the moon casting a shadow on Uranus. But the sentence is poorly worded. Mni9791 (talk) 16:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If we used "it", then there would be confusion as to whether it was Ariel or Uranus. The only other option is to use the word "Ariel" twice. Serendipodous 18:30, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambiguity

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