Talk:Diabolo

message: Holy hell this page is a mess.
It contradicts itself and confuses people by talking about two different things.
Yes, the chinese yo-yo might be a part of an ethnic dance, but Diabolo is solely a juggling prop.
NO Diabolo is designed to make whistling sound because the loss in aerodynamics defeats the purpose.
Very few of the listed tricks are used in any kind of ethnic dance with Chinese Yo-Yo.
I don't know anyone who performs with actual Chinese yo-Yo's. I know quite a few Diabolo artists thou.
I have never seen anyone juggle multiple Chinese Yo-Yo's.
Diabolo's are pretty much made of rubber and some are made of metal to use them in fire diaboloing. Some chinese yoyo's are made of wood, but no Diabolos.
Does someone want to introduce both items here, or would it be wiser just to split this up? 
...I can't believe I have spent 3 days driving this matter now, after months of indifference. Just after reading the latest version I came to realize how much this current article can confuse and mislead people interested in Diabolo or Chinese Yo-Yo.
:I volunteer as a chinese yoyo teacher at my local chinese school, and our team does regular performances with chinese yoyo's. Additionally, there are some diabolo/chinese yoyo hybrids that have the whistles of the chinese yoyo put on the inside of the diabolo's plastic bells. It's not a true diabolo by definition, but it looks and generally behaves like one. And it is possible to juggle multiple chinese yoyos. It is significantly harder considering the shape and weight of the yoyo, but I have seen and am able to juggle two chinese yoyos in the same manner as you'd juggle diabolos. L4ck_0f_54n17y
Ok bit of a wiki noob not sure how format and stuff works here so bear with me. Both "diabolist" and "diaboloist" are used in the article. Not sure which is correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.167.235.94 (talk) 21:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction and confusion 

message: Entry for Diabolo was removed and the topic nowadays just redirects to Chinese yo-yo. Chinese yo-yo is not the correct name for the item depicted in the entry. The juggling prop is called Diabolo universally in juggling circles. The original move was probably initiated by an ill-informed newbie to the art. The content of the page has deteroriated as people have been removing stuff which does not relate to Chinese yo-yo (which also looks different). Also the external links and the picture are irrelevant to 'Chinese yo-yo' as they clearly refer to Diabolo. Diabolo and Chinese yo-yo are quite two different things. I propose leaving a new empty entry for Chinese yo-yo which could be used to tell about the particular item. Addition: To see what I mean. Here's a Chinese Yo-Yo and here's a Diabolo. I ask for this change now because I thought someone more proficient with Wikipedia would come to resque and correct the error. -- Fizzl 10:21, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved [[Chinese yo-yo]] &rarr; [[Diabolo]]

message: "commonly misspelled as diablo and mispronounced dia-BO-lo;"
OK, is it mispronounced AS "dia-BO-lo"  Or is that a mangle way of saying it should be pronounced that way?  If it is, as written, "dia-BO-lo" is incorrect, then what they hell is the correct way?  If "dia-BO-lo" is correct how about some punctuation?  Here is some to choose from .,!?";:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.253.68 (talk) 05:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pronounced di-ab-ol-o. I don't think the quote is ambiguous, but it would make more sense to have the correct pronounciation listed. --BlueNovember (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which is it? 

message: Churchh (talk) 22:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Early photo

message: See discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Toys#Merge_Chinese_yo-yo_and_Diabolo.3F MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Chinese yo-yo]] 

message: Removed  from article as it is a commercially related link with no relevance for this article. Robynthehode (talk) 09:42, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed incorrect footnote

message: According to  diabolo is the European descendant of the Chinese yo-yo.Setenzatsu (talk) 18:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese yoyo 

message: The German wikipedia says it was invented in the stone age and that the Inuit had the toy. So what is this about Chinese yo-yo. The yo-yo was not originated in China anyhow. Also the etymology seems quite confused if it came from Italian with a "v" how has it not got a "v" in English? Is there a Mondegreen going on here where diabolo is heard as diablo? The whole history sounds not just confused but folk etymology (made up by people into a plausible story). Then there is this - allegedly killed people in Paris so it was banned. Well this is vague - where are the reports / sources of this moral panic? Who was killed / injured in connection with use? All this removes the credibility of the rest of the article. There must be sources in Chinese, Italian, French if these things are so - and some references do appear in the list like this. But none in Chinese and none in Italian. 88.112.31.26 (talk) 06:20, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins?  

message: Diabolos aren't just circus items they are actual toys. As an 11 year old boy I love diabolos. most of the tricks you see at shows are really easy even for ammutures like me 73.57.138.249 (talk) 22:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diabolo as a toy