Talk:China–Africa relations

message: The Nanjing Anti-African protests (or background info) might be a point of interest. heqs 20:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info. I just added it. Szvest 20:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nanjing Anti-African protests 

message: Relations between China and Africa started long before the establishment of the People's Republic of China (PRC). It started as early as the 15th century Cheng Ho voyages, or even earlier. This article should be expanded to cover the history of Sino-African relations. — Instantnood 22:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I was thinking about it but wasn't sure if it belonged to here. I think we can add it. -- Szvest 15:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I added some stuff to the history section (Zheng He voyages and Chinese relations to the ANC in the 60's).  It is certainly not complete, but I'll come back to it as I have time. Please let me know if I haven't used the correct citation forms for something.   gamblingbear 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: It would be very interesting to see some numbers on this. Technicians, engineers, medical staff, managers, traders, businesspeople, etc are to be expected. However, I have heard that some countries host substantial populations of Chinese labourers, which seems odd as Africa does not lack labour.  Any sources? BrainyBabe (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese population in Africa 

message: Per FayssalF's request, I have gone through the article and copyedited, used annoying templates to mark points requiring improvement and left commented-out remarks on various issues.  More generally, I would like to suggest:
* Make sure that the lead section is a summary of the body of the article.  In at least one case that I fixed, the lead had more information on an event than the article body.  Similarly, once editors are happy with the article body, they should make sure it is adequately reflected in the lede.
* There is a lot of language, "now", "currently", "is doing", that is either dated already or will be shortly.  Please attempt to avoid such wording as much as possible, and use  if there is no other way to state a thought, so at least dated statements will become obvious as they require updating.
* The modern sections of this article deal almost entirely with the PRC.  More details on Taiwanese political, economic and military engagement would round out those sections.
* The "Events" section is basically trivia.  As with trivia sections, these items should be merged into the body of the article.
* In the "Further reading" section, is there any particular reason that almost the entirety of the resources are written by Ian Taylor?  It makes one suspect that the article has been subject to a conflict-of-interest attack.  The most recent and comprehensive of Taylor's work should be sufficient; perhaps a new article for Ian Taylor could have his complete works.  
* The formatting of citations is haphazard.  While editors are free to standardize any way they wish, I would suggest  just to keep things simple. 
Good luck. - BanyanTree 11:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For Ian Taylor, he is simply a key expert on 'China in Africa' and China's Africa oil diplomacy. I should admit that its works are clear, frank, and clever, which make a pleasure to read them ;) Yug (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyedit and comments 

message: I fail to see the significance this event in the grand picture of whole Sino-African relations, even though the protest it triggered might worth a mention. 
Spending 3 lines giving detail of a student brawl while event as major as "Chad changed its recognition of the Republic of China to the PRC" only gets a short sentence doesn't seem to be the most logical solution to me. JonovaL (talk) 17:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Student Brawl at Nanjing 

message: (Not sure where to insert this, so I'm just providing the link here.)
Africa Progress Panel, Africa Progress Report - 2010. The section concerning the PRC & Africa includes pp. 12f, & includes some statistics. -- llywrch (talk) 20:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source to use 

message: I'd like to re-name this article's proposed merger candidate page, Involvement of the People's Republic of China in Africa, to Economic relations between China and Africa.  The new name is grammatically more clear and also more accurate.  If you have a comment, please leave it at the article's Talk page.
As for the merger, this won't prevent that from happening if there is eventually a consensus to do so. (I can't imagine why that would ever happen, since the other article is already very long and almost exclusively focused on economics, though there is some logic in "borrowing" a few of its extensive background sections. On the other hand, I think the article works pretty well by itself, and Sino-African relations is a broad enough topic to potentially have more than one article.) Ocaasi (talk) 11:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the "Involvement..." headline was probably more accurate if the focus of the article was on the PRC in Africa. This is the frame that the books I have read usually adopt. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 14:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: I'm not too sure if this is A - factual and B - within the scope of this article, but it was reported by some media ~2004 that China had deployed some 4,000 troops as security to its oil investments in Sudan, outside any UN mandate. The claim was it was in response to an attack on Chinese at an oil refinery (or something like that). There was no official confirmation from Sudan or China and they may have just been the equivalent of Western PMC's but it does say in this article that China has only deployed as a peacekeeping force and if that is not true it should not be in the article.--Senor Freebie (talk) 00:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you produce a source we can add it. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the Sudanese oil guard detachment