Talk:Never Say Die!

message: "Some songs were written with Walker but, after deciding not to leave the band, Osbourne refused to do any of the songs and rewrote several of them"
This sentence should be edited somehow to say that Osbourne did indeed rejoin, but keep the overall structure of the sentence intact. Probably something along the lines of "Some songs were written with Walker but, after deciding not to leave the band, Osbourne rejoined the band. Osbourne refused to sing any of the songs written with Walker, and rewrote several of them" (nsigend comment by 216.209.183.119)
*Please sign your comments and get an account.  So... rewrite the sentence.  Major revisions to articles should be discussed beforehand, but changes like that needn't be.  Edit boldly!--Hraefen Talk 17:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarity of this sentence

message: *All song titles serve as redirects to this album or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen Talk 17:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: <^>v|This album is connected|v<^>

message: Why does "Air Dance" redirect to this page? J04n (talk) 11:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Air Dance

message: i just got this album and listened to it, and it sounds like just ozzy on a hard road, but it does sound like the others on swining the chain..... maybe it was a typo?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.42.18 (talk) 22:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  all 4 sing on hard road? 

message: Unless anyone disagrees I will remove the "multiple issue" box from this page. J04n (talk) 11:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple Issue Box should be removed 

message: I changed the Dave Walker text from where it said "former Savoy Brown & Fleetwood Mac vocalist Dave Walker" to read "former Savoy Brown and future Fleetwood Mac vocalist Dave Walker" because at the time he was with Black Sabbath, he had not yet sung for Fleetwood Mac.  Having it written the way it was was misleading, making one believe he was a former singer of Fleetwood Mac before he was with Black Sabbath. BucsWeb (talk) 14:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to Dave Walker text 

message: In the Black Box, which is a CD release of the original albums, the track listing for this album is as follows:
#'Never Say Die'
#'A Hard Road'
#'Junior's Eyes'
#'Shock Wave'
#'Johnny Blade'
#'Air Dance'
#'Breakout'
#'Swinging the Chain'
#'Over to You'
which means there are multiple transpositions of tracks.  However, the disc itself seems to follow the track listing of the original album (via track lengths).  Is there any sourcing on a packaging error? MSJapan (talk) 05:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track listing? 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Never Say Die!'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "MusicMight":
From Black Sabbath: 
From Ozzy Osbourne: 
Reference named "AMG Biography":
From The Devil You Know (Heaven & Hell album): 
From Ozzy Osbourne: 
From Black Sabbath (album): 
From Warner Bros. Records: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Never Say Die!]] 

message: On the single and original copies of the album, this track was called "Hard Road". Somewhere along the line it became "A Hard Road". Might be worth mentioning. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It turns out that both variants of the title existed since the very first releases of LP in 1978, "Hard Road" being from those of Vertigo (UK and Europe) and "A Hard Road" from Warner's (US). So that both may be considered original. The same applies to CD reissues since 1980s. (Yet on the well known 1996 remaster from Castle [ESM CD 329, a UK release] both variants are present at the same time: "A Hard Road" on its sleeve and "Hard Road" inside the booklet). I agree that this uncertainty should be clarified somehow. Maybe the difference between Vertigo's and Warner's original releases is exactly what needs to be mentioned? — Mike Novikoff (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I knew someone would reply eventually! Haha... I think that's a good idea - some kind of explanatory note to clarify that by the sounds of it, both titles were original and therefore "official". That should stop people changing it from one to the other all the time. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:52, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard Road

message: I figured I'd start a discussion on this because there's been a bit of conflict. One editor removed a couple of unsourced genres, a second then responded by claiming that no genres should be assigned to this album on the basis of a former Metal Maniacs editor referring to it as "diverse, unbalanced and eclectic". Anyway, if anyone has any thoughts on the subject they can share them here. In the meantime I restored heavy metal as the genre, which I feel is appropriate. Caper454 (talk) 22:12, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: An album's genre is not a collection of the various song genres, it is taken from what published sources say about the album as a whole. Nobody calls this a rock album, or a heavy metal album. Binksternet (talk) 06:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genres 

message: Why do you guys keep changing it to hard rock? Black Sabbath is a heavy metal band! All albums include heavy metal songs in them. Most of the songs are heavy metal! Please stop changing it. TheEarthboundFan2001 (talk) 03:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard rock? 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Over to You. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Bsherr (talk) 18:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Over to You" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]