Talk:Rogue (Marvel Comics)

message: Why is the title of the page italicized?LoveWaffle (talk) 14:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Because somone put in  instead of using . - J Greb (talk) 23:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italics 

message: The article says "Hailing from Caldecott, Mississippi (a fictional county)", but if Caldecott were a county, it would be called "Caldecott County" not "Caldecott". Leaving off the "County" means that Caldecott is a city (or town or unincorporated community) not a county. Which is it, it Caldecott a county or a city? There's a third option, Rouge could be from the City of Caldecott, which is located in Caldecott County. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 23:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caldecott, Mississippi 

message: I know there's this thing. This thing about Rogue. Our own article states she's been a consistently popular character for decades, and you certainly can't say that about the Sentry. But I knew about this thing with her because I have read whole articles, reviewing the Sentry: Fallen Sun one-shot, that basically turned on the question of Rogue's virtue, or perhaps her very virginity. It was all they cared about in the entire issue. I have seen a whole blogful of comic geeks roaring, "This is ONE Sentry-related retcon TOO FAR!"
So, yeah, obviously there's a thing about Rogue, this beautiful and beloved mutant girl who couldn't touch anybody, or it might hurt them or kill them or something, but I bet a lot of those angry fans had moments when they would have gladly taken the chance. If she was, y'know, real.
Okay, but first of all: If you're going to argue that the hot superhero sex they definitely had didn't happen, then you're basically calling Rogue a liar. Not the Sentry—just Rogue. (And on what planet do women lie about having sex with certain men?)
You could claim that the whole one-shot issue, this epilogue to Siege, about the memorial for Robert Reynolds, as written by Sentry creator Paul Jenkins, is non-canon. Oh, except, gee, you don't get to make that call. So, yeah, secondly: Marvel gets to retcon all it wants, and the readers get to retcon not at all. 
So, this is how I found this article: 
Following the Siege of Asgard, Rogue was present at Sentry's memorial, where it was suggested he was immune to her power and that a time in the past when she knew no other physical contact, she had at least one encounter with him of some physically intimate nature.Sentry: Fallen Sun (July 2010) However, it was established in Sentry #4 that Sentry and Rogue never met.Sentry #4 (December 2000)
Boy, oh boy, talk about, first, tip-toeing around the very possibility that Robert and Rogue got down and dirty with cock and clit and fucking and sucking -- before stamping your foot down on the very idea, as if it were a big nasty cockroach, and insisting it didn't happen, anyway.
And talk about your wishful thinking.
So, third of all, I cleaned up that first part, making it more simple and direct:
Following the Siege of Asgard, Rogue was present at the funeral of Robert Reynolds, the Sentry. She stated that Robert was immune to the ill effects of her power, and that a time in her past when she could touch no one else, she had at least one intimate encounter with him.Sentry: Fallen Sun (July 2010)
(Funny how trying to make writing better so often makes it shorter.)
I mean, "at least one encounter with him of some physically intimate nature"? Seriously?? Are we pretending to be sophisticated robots from some other planet, detachedly gathering data on the ape-like behavior of Terrans??? 
Or are we just holding out hope that it was all about aromatherapy, candles, crystals, and deep-tissue massage?!? 
Guys, they fucked. That's what we adults DO with each other. C'mon.
However, it was established in Sentry #4 that Sentry and Rogue never met.Sentry #4 (December 2000)
That's gone. It was never true. I know exactly what scene the contributor is referring to, and it doesn't "establish" anything of the kind. That's wishful thinking, which is very sad. Now, since this is Rogue's article and not the Sentry's, I was fairly brief in what I wrote next, but let me spell it out for you here:
As Emma Frost and Doctor Strange both discovered, Robert Reynolds has a head full of mental blocks, courtesy of Jason Wyndgarde, the mutant Mastermind. The point was to make Robert forget that he even was a powerful superhero in the first place, to destroy the Sentry from the inside out. This might have also been how his evil alter-ego, the Void, was created. Maybe not. Either way, it turns out that Robert forgetting both the Sentry and the Void is the best thing for the human race, so he has voluntarily submitted to subliminal hypnosis, designed by Reed Richards, that wipes the Sentry and the Void from the minds of everyone on Earth, including his own.
But one night Robert woke up with his memories slowly returning, only certain that the Void was coming to destroy humanity, and determined to stop that. Misguided, he struggles to make himself and all his former allies remember the Sentry and the Void as much as possible. These allies include Professor Charles Xavier, who he contacts telepathically. Through this telepathic bond, Robert "sees" Angel, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, and Rogue. I don't know how accurate that is, "seeing" via telepathy, through someone else's eyes. Do you? Anyway, he says "Who are these people, Xavier? I don't recognize any of them." That's it. Not, "I've certainly never met ANY of these people before in my LIFE!" In fact, he realizes that he does know Angel, but didn't recognize him at first because his skin is now blue, while Robert remembers him as Caucasian-colored. This is less than one day of remembering his life as the Sentry -- he woke up in the middle of the night with dim memories and dark foreboding, drank his super-serum, and is gradually regaining both his powers and memories. Gradually.
Come to think of it, if his history was anything like the way it's described, the Sentry, the mightiest hero on Earth, might have bedded a lot of women he doesn't entirely remember. He banged Crystal of the Inhumans while she was fighting with her then-boyfriend Johnny Storm. This comes up when Bob is just sitting on the moon, avoiding the Civil War, and he's completely forgotten the Inhumans - including Crystal - LIVE on the moon! So . . . yeah!
Just to replace the removed text with something of balance, I wrote:
However, between two episodes of psychic blocks that caused Robert to completely forget his life as the Sentry, when he regained those memories for a few days, he contacted Charles Xavier telepathically, and did not recognize Rogue when he "saw" her through that telepathic bond.
Of course, let's face reality here on Earth-Prime, too: The real reason for this contradiction is, when Paul Jenkins wrote the first miniseries of The Sentry, he surely had no idea he'd want to retcon the Sentry's fireman into Rogue's hot, wet tunnel of love. It's all fiction. The first Sentry miniseries wasn't the beginning of Sentry's life as a superhero, far from it, but it was the beginning for his creators. That's the real reason for all this. But no matter how you balance out the contradiction, it's a lot more likely that Rogue did indeed buck and squirt all over Robert Reynolds, and dig her nails into his back as she shuddered through the spasms of a violent orgasm. 
You can still accuse Rogue of lying, if you want, but you can't accuse the Sentry because he's dead, and you can't accuse Paul Jenkins because Marvel paid him for that story and not you.
Sorry this is so long, but I try to forestall as many arguments and misunderstandings as possible. It's a compulsion, trying to anticipate and neutralize every possible objection.
--Ben Culture (talk) 03:47, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rogue got naked and enthusiastically banged the Sentry. They had sexual intercourse, and there's nothing you can do to change that. 

message: It's no longer canon and it's the writers who make that decision, Rogue & Gambit Vol.1, issue #3, page 4 (2018) has Rogue herself stating that her first time with anyone was with Gambit in Antarctica.
"It was out first time, but also my first time... something I didn't know if I was ever going to get..."
But I'm not going to edit the page with this, that's for someone else to do, I just felt like saying something about this.--108.208.137.95 (talk) 05:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Canon Event

message: That's - kind of a big oversight.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.127.9 (talk) 13:44, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You've got a reliable source saying who created Rogue, then? I've been looking for one for months to no avail.--NukeofEarl (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Claremont isn't credited for creating the character anywhere in the article. 

message: Corrected a small error in the X-Men section which stated that of the active duty members of the X-Men at the time when Rogue joined, Storm was the only one who had met Rogue. Nightcrawler had also met and fought Rogue in the same issue in which Storm had met her. 107.144.133.225 (talk) 21:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll double-check the issue when I get home, but I'm 99% sure you're wrong. Only Storm, Wolverine, and Carol Danvers even went inside the Pentagon (where the entire encounter with Rogue took place); Nightcrawler was outside in the car.--NukeofEarl (talk) 17:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

text: I double-checked and it seems my memory failed me; Nightcrawler gets involved in the situation in the Pentagon only briefly, but he does meet Rogue. Going to restore your edit now.--NukeofEarl (talk) 16:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which of the X-Men had met Rogue? 

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