Talk:Navigation light

message: Spacecraft? Could somebody put in an example? --Willy888 22:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Science Fiction stories?--- Safemariner 03:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: If it is being viewed from "below" (whatever that might mean) then the lights are correct.  Viewed from "above" and you are right.  There doesn't appear to be a window visible, so my guess is it is viewed from "below".  Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

text: Not just science fiction. Real-world spacecraft such as Apollo used colored running navigation lights. This was not moot as the lunar landing flights involved two spacecraft which had to visually rendezvous. JustinTime55 (talk) 16:27, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Spacecraft

message: They can be found at Aircraft landing lights. 84.173.242.214 15:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stationary aeronautic lights 

message: I suggest a move to vehicle lighting (at the moment still named 'automotive lighting') to expand the scope of the article (to all vehicles, not just ground vehicles). In addition, I suggest merging the navigation light article into this Vehicle lighting article, as most vehicles that emit navigation lights also emit these to increase the viewing distance. This remark is also true in the reverse direction; lights used to increase the view distance can also immediatly function as navigation lights.
I would like to note a small issue however that can perhaps be included to the article; air, sea and ground vehicles use different colors for as their navigation/view lights. It would be most suitable if they all used a same color pattern; perhaps that a altered maritime lighting pattern would be best; namely:
* Right side of the vehicle: red light
* Left side of the vehicle: green light
* Back of the vehicle: white light
**Oppose. The Automotive lighting article is extremely long — not problematically so, given the variety of lighting functions on an automobile and the complexity of regulations, etc. — but very long nevertheless, even with the existing references to other articles on certain topics such as DRLs. Adding trains, planes, snowmobiles, boats, etc. would make it so long as to be completely unwieldy. Whether or not the merge takes place, your idea to alter the colour conventions to make them the same for all vehicles is well beyond the remit of this present project, which is to write an encyclopædia describing the world as it is — not to advocate for changes to make the world the way we might think it should be. —Scheinwerfermann T·C14:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: This does not reference the fact that the whole purpose of the lights is to standardize the pattern of ships going opposite directions in the seaway. In the Eastern Hemisphere, roughly, from the British practice, ships pass each other (not overtaking, I'm referring to going in opposite directions here) such that standing on the starboard side of the ship (where the green light is), you see the other ship passing on the right, and see its green light on its starboard side closest to you. But in the Western Hemisphere, including Latin American nations, Canada, and the British West Indies, when you stand on the port side of the ship (where the red light is), you see the port side of the passing ship with its own red light closest to you.
When the US ruled the Philippines, they expanded the usage of the latter method to that archipelago ; when the US defeated Japan, they expanded usage to that archipelago ; there were also some US units in South Korea, and much cargo had to be shipped there during the Korean War, so as far as I know, the latter method was expanded there as well. The original British method began the notion of Green Means Go, and Red Means Stop ; the American method is contrary. 
A handy tip that American sailors learned was the phrase "Right-Red-Returning" such that when coming into port, the navigation lights on the buoys around a harbor - yes, they were red on ship's port side and green on the ship's starboard side when leaving port - would line up to match the phrase. 74.94.150.197 (talk) 15:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The above struck out as dangerously wrong.  The IP is mixing up buoyage which does differ (IALA regions "A" and "B") with sailing rules which do not differ: "when both lights you see ahead, starboard your wheel and show your red" - quote from an Admiralty manual for seamen c. 1945. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:49, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ships that Pass in the Night 

message: The navigation lights article does a perfectly cromulent job of covering the topic of lights on the outside of vessels that travel by sea and air.  I would only propose bringing the links over from aircraft external lights in that it does a better job of linking to specific light types. 49ersBelongInSanFrancisco (talk) 09:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, merger looking more likely in the next few days, unless someone has anything else to add. Abcjake (talk) 09:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Completed merger- I still recommend changes under 'Aviation', some coherence is necessary. I'll probably come back soon to fix that. Abcjake (talk) 10:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Aircraft external lights]] 

message: 'Cause the article never passed review. Rhadow (talk) 16:16, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Something needs to change 

message: I'm suggesting revamping the lead.  The first paragraph is a reasonable lead, but the second meanders a bit and repeats much that follows.  If I don't see any objections by the end of the week I'll be WP:BOLD.  My suggested lead is:
:A navigation light, also known as a running or position light, is a source of illumination on a vessel, aircraft or spacecraft.  Navigation lights give information on a craft's position, heading, and status.  Their placement is mandated by international conventions or civil authorities.  Navigation lights are not intended to provide illumination for the craft making the passage, only for other craft to be aware of it.
:: Martin of Sheffield (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead