Talk:Delayed gratification

message: Impulse control redirects here. Are they really the same? DCDuring 02:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'See also' links to Impulse control disorder. They are related, but the disorder is the extreme opposite. I think the redirect is good, taking people via a general discussion before a specific extreme state.--195.137.93.171 (talk) 15:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it would be a very good idea to have an article about Impulse control, but we don't have one - and unfortunately I cannot write it. Lova Falk talk 13:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Impulse Control the Same as Deferred Gratification?

message: This information seems rather poorly reasoned.  Are there no other studies to present here?  
Why would someone who experienced random punishment in response to working towards long term goals be equally as able to delay gratification?  
IE someone whose parent's downplayed their every accomplishment, who lost a great deal of savings due to some unfortunate event, or who were punished in other ways.  It seems likely that such kids would subconsciously reason that short term gratification was a sure thing compared to uncertain longterm gratification, thus they would be intuitively directed to focus on current gratification.  
Also people who received such random punishment would obviously be more likely to be considered irritable.
mimo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.85.220 (talk) 09:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This doesn't seem to be relevant to the current article. See Learned helplessness ? --195.137.93.171 (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Arguments? 

message: It would be interesting to see a similar test done where the children are offered one marshmallow and promised the other marshmallow after 20 minutes. After the 20 minutes the children who did not take the first one are denied both marshmallows thus breaking the promise and see how the children relate to delayed gratification and broken promises as they grow up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.38.49.130 (talk) 12:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taking it further 

message: I do not have documentation of these claims, but heard from a very reliable source that in the Marshmallow Experiment, the key conclusion that was reached in finding a deferred gratification gene was not the amount of time the subject 4-year-old waited before (if at all) giving into temptation, but the use of coping mechanisms in deferring gratification versus children who simply endured the time. E.G. a child who "closed their eyes", "clapped their hands", "sang songs", ect. to avoid thinking about the Marshmallow and only lasted 5 minutes still might score higher than a child who sat and stared at the Marshmallow for 20 minutes "torturing themselves" with the prospect of eating the Marshmallow. This is important because it is considered "unteachable in children of that age" and thus genetically inherent. If anyone can research this and add it in coherently with the appropriate attribution, it would help clarify the intent of the experiment. Thanks. --24.167.92.4 (talk) 23:48, 4 
April 2009 (UTC)
In spite of the title of the New Yorker article the actual strategies for solving this problem are mentioned only briefly; but yes those techniques are mentioned there.  The Ansile book on Willpower includes an attempt to catalog and organize all the know techniques; along with how they all have unfortunate side effects.  Bhyde (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marshmallow Test results 

message: I have a problem with people saying they think something is genetic when they haven't identified an actual gene for it? It's plausible that this is simply learned behavior.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.32.86 (talk) 00:59, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it really genetic?

message: I would say the concept is only important if it can be applied. Has anyone tried teaching children to be patient in practice? 
The Stanford marshmallow experiment reminds me of videos of dogs that have been trained to sit patiently with a treat balanced on their nose. I could find them, but don't fancy wading through hundreds of 'dog torture' videos right now ! The one I am thinking of ends by tricking the dog with a 'pretend treat' that didn't exist !
Not sure if that disproves "animals do not defer gratification" - that statement needs [citation needed] ! I guess you would have to fight the dog for the treat if it disobeyed by not waiting ?
In fact the use of the word 'unable' in the article is an unwarranted assumption. It ignores the attitude "I could have waited, but I choose one now rather than two later" !
--195.137.93.171 (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your assertation with the word unable, are there any recent reliable sources that can be found to clear this up? Beefcake6412 (talk) 17:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Learned Delayed Gratification ? 

message: I added more reliable sources and included more information in the psychoanalysis section. I also added more to the research section to include other studies than just the Stanford Marshmallow Experiment. The article can still use some work if others want to look for other studies dealing with delayed gratification. (Markhundley41 (talk) 23:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Psychoanalysis

message: I, username: Coopercog, am representing the APSWI group that is editing the page. We have reviewed the previous submission suggestion and have made numerous changes and rearrangements to our suggested additions below. We have also taken care to retain all information currently on the page. We will be submitting our new page on 10/31/12. Please let me know once we have uploaded if there are any changes or problems that we need to fix.
Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coopercog (talk • contribs) 19:35, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: APSWI group

message: Please read WP:TOPPOST: "Start new topics at the bottom of the page: If you put a post at the top of the page, it is confusing and can easily be overlooked. The latest topic should be the one at the bottom of the page. Then the next post will go underneath yours and so on. This makes it easy to see the chronological order of posts." Thank you. Lova Falk talk 20:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Start new topics at the bottom of the page. 

message: The APSWI group is has made further revisions to the article based on feedback from CabbageX and would be very grateful for further review. We made the following changes: (1) addressed copyright issues with the second photo, and (2) added citations/references in the Psychoanalytic Drives and Impulses section. Thank you for your feedback! Aperloe (talk) 19:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  APSWI Response to Latest Review 

message: The following cited article does not seem to back-up this statement: "Cognitive strategies, such as the use of distracting or "cool" thoughts, can increase delay ability,[5]" (Romer, Daniel; Duckworth, Angela L.; Sznitman, Sharon; Park, Sunhee (2010). "Can Adolescents Learn Self-control? Delay of Gratification in the Development of Control over Risk Taking". Prevention Science 11 (3): 319–30. doi:10.1007/s11121-010-0171-8. PMC 2964271. .)
No mention is made of distraction or "cool" thoughts.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahauptfleisch (talk • contribs) 08:35, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference inaccuracies?

message: It would be a good idea if this article noted that the term "delayed gratification" is sometimes referred to as "delay of gratification". After all, this term redirects here. Vorbee (talk) 16:41, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Delay of gratification

message: There are many studies about the delayed gratification among different ethnic groups. Especially Blacks seem to score pretty low in the given tests. A section should be added to comment on this field of research.
:No, that would be racistic, and to write racistic stuff would be very racismistic! ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL! F A C T !!! --2003:E5:7746:FC73:14E3:EE3D:B9C9:C813 (talk) 01:20, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between ethnic groups 

message: I believe the part "translated to a .2% reduction in Body Mass Index" is an error. The paper's words are "Specifically, each additional minute a child delayed gratification predicted a .2 point reduction in BMI in adulthood." I think it means their BMI is lower by 0.2 raw score, not 0.2% . This obvious error was introduced from the start special:diff/520681872 but went unnoticed despite two GA reviews.🤣--RZuo (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  .2 point reduction