Talk:Hong Kong action cinema

message: As a featured page, shouldn't editing the article be locked for the moment?
the policy is not to lock any featured page. usually vandalism gets reverted quite quickly on a featured page. Zzzzz 12:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See user:Raul654/protection Raul654 20:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Encountering zero objections and one concurrence after suggesting so weeks ago, I've created this entry and moved a large chunk of the Cinema of Hong Kong entry here, more or less intact, so far.  HK Action Cinema inspires so much interest in its own right and is so influential in global cinema today that it probably needs its own space.  Clearly it did, since it was getting so huge and unwieldy in its original spot.
First order of business: Can anyone tell me how I get the 'k' capitalized in 'kong' in the page heading?  My first mistake on the new page.
What we have here now clearly needs more information, as usual.  Particularly pre-'70s.  Also a reduction in rambling anecdotal material, some of which could get moved to relevant entries, especially in the case of the Bruce Lee material.
Thank you, all.
Michael Wells 03:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New page, new problems

message: new school wuxia:
(1) "The trend may also have been encouraged by a need to win back local audiences from the newly popularized medium of television." - who said it?
70s kunfu wave:
(2) "Kung fu cinema was particularly influenced by Chang's concern with his vision of masculine values and male friendship;" - who said chang's film had these concerns?
(3) "African-Americans and other racial minorities particularly embraced the genre (as exemplified by the popular hip-hop group, the Wu-Tang Clan) perhaps as an almost unprecedented source of adventure stories with non-white heroes, who furthermore often displayed a strong streak of racial and/or nationalistic pride." - need a strong source for this statement.
bruce lee:
(4) "The fad did little to engender mainstream respect in the West for the relatively new phenomenon of martial arts cinema. But despite such posthumous treatment, Lee continues to cast a long shadow over Hong Kong film." - any evidence of the west hating brucesploitation?
jackie chan modern kunfu:
(5) "The new formula grossed over HK$19 million." - where did this figure come from?
(6) also need a citation for the whole section - i assume one of the reference books covers it
wire fu wave:
(7) "she made an unlikely specialty of androgynous woman-warrior types, such as the villainous, sex-changing eunuch in The Swordsman 2 (1992), epitomizing martial arts fantasy's often-noted fascination with gender instability." - who noted that fascination?
(8) also need a citation for the whole section - i assume one of the reference books covers it
influence in the west:
(9) whole first pgraph needs citation.
exit of many leading figures:
(10) "many of the leading lights of Hong Kong cinema left for Hollywood, which offered budgets and pay which could not be equalled by Hong Kong production companies." - anybody actually say this is the reason?
recent trends:
(11) "The number of local films produced, and their box office takings, are dramatically reduced; American imports now dominate in a way they had not for decades, or perhaps ever. This crisis and increased contact with Western cinema have probably been the biggest recent influences on Hong Kong action cinema." - this is a strong assertion, needs a strong source.
(12) also need a citation for the whole section - i assume one of the reference books covers it
Zzzzz 19:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations needed

message: I deleted the words "particularly Chinese" from the sentence about John Woo's films having "a particularly Chinese emphasis on the fraternal bonds of duty and affection among the criminal protagonists". American gangster movies are also about fraternal bonds between gangsters; if there's something distinctive about the Chinese version of this, it needs explaining. The Singing Badger 16:04, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fraternal bonds

message: the title is "chinese boxer" not "the chinese boxer" (see imdb), jimmy wang yu is the famous name of the man, i've never heard anyone call him "jimmy wang", also he does not need to be wikilinked there as he is lready wikilinked one/two pgraphs up. and i think linking "cinema of america" is way too vague and uncontextually useful, so i prefer less wikilinks (especially in the lead).
:Wang is his family name. It's confusing to combine his name in the western style and romanised form of his Chinese name on an encyclopædia. — Instantnood 17:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm no expert but I'd be interested to see such posters. :-) (And please be reminded to sign your messages.) — Instantnood 00:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Latest edits

message: Re  - In what way is it a Chinese film? It was a Hong Kong-United States production, and Hong Kong was then a British crown colony.  — Instantnood 00:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Most successful Chinese film"

message: An anon has been changing "wuxia" to "mohap/wuxia" and "gongfu" to "gong fu" everywhere in the article.  Is there any consensus for this change? Kimchi.sg | talk 13:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i agree with kimchi's reversions. Zzzzz 23:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: mohap/wuxia and other Cantonese/Chinese spelling pairs

message: Hi - I'm interested in recording a spoken version of this article, but I'm not 100% sure about the pronunciation of the following words. If someone could spell them out phonetically for me, it'd be a great help. I'll try and get started as soon as I know how to pronounce them.
*Wuxia
**woo-zhia
*Wusha
**woo-shoo
*Tsui Hark
**choy hok
*Kuomintang
**koo min tung
*Sino-Japanese
**scy (as in scythe)- no-japanese
*Cheng Pei Pei
**cheng pay pay
*Shaolin
**show (as in cow)-lin
*Yuen Biao
**yoon-byoo
*Ching Siu-tung
**ching-si-dong
Cheers,  Panser Born  (talk) 12:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the help - I've now finished recording the spoken version and uploaded it. Hope you like it. Cheers, -Panser Born- (talk) 17:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoken version 

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message: Wuxia isn't anywhere close to my specialties and unfortunately the section is already completely unsourced, so I won't add to it, but I'd like to add that besides the already mentioned
* Reservoir Dogs
* Kill Bill
* Desperado
* Once Upon a Time in Mexico
* The Matrix
* The Departed
on Talk:Wuxia, a user mentions
* Big Trouble in Little China
and :de:Wuxia even adds
* Star Wars.
Moreover, the TV series
* Xena: Warrior Princess
is also influenced by the genre. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 00:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence on Western cinema