Talk:List of 30 Rock characters

message: Isn't calling Dot-com the most "articulate" just code for least black?
208.27.3.153 (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is if you're racist enough to believe that "blackness" and being articulate are inversely proportional.--172.190.7.161 (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calling Dot Com "articulate" 

message: Nitpick: How can a list of recurring minor characters contain a list of major recurring characters?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.11.244 (talk) 08:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of minor characters containing list of major characters 

message: "Tracy and Angie frequently use rather odd forms of sexual roleplaying" is that really encylopedic tone? isn't that more of a value judgement?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.70.33 (talk) 05:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's an inadequate choice of words. It's a recurring joke that they engage in unusual forms of roleplaying, but it's not treated as deviant in the way that the word "odd" implies, it's just that they invent convoluted situations that seem to be very different from what is thought of as "typical" roleplaying. Dementia13 (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd roleplaying 

message: Why did Cerie's page get merged here?  It's better formatted on its own page. - Peregrinefisher 05:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cerie got merged here because she is only a minor character. She does not have as prominent role on the show as the characters who have their own pages, she doesn't even have a last name. If she becomes part of the regular cast, then she can get her own page. Fernandobouregard 06:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the deciding factor should be much text a character has.  The first four or so characters have so much accompanying text, I think they should put back in their individual articles.  Just a formatting concern (and infoboxes look better on their own page too). - Peregrine Fisher 07:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cerie's page 

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message: Many of the refernces from this page can be verified at 
http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/category/30-rock/
That website has episode by episode recaps.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmTheCoinMan (talk • contribs) 18:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: *Do you think that Jonathan and Grizz and Dot Com should get thier own page (well, Grizz and Dot Com would get a combined page)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.92.73 (talk) 04:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: J52y made a page for Grizz and Dot Com, Jonathan (30 Rock), J.D. Lutz, and Dr. Leo Spaceman, all of whom are listed here. Do these characters really need their own pages? Banjaloupe (talk) 15:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In retrospect, these character prolly don't. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but there's really not that much information about the characters that warrants their own pages.J52y (talk) 07:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Jonathan and Grizz and Dot Com

message: There was a move request recently at Talk:Leo Spaceman#Requested move which highlighted a question of notability. Is Leo Spaceman a notable enough character to warrant a separate article? The current article possesses three references at the moment, two of which relate to "Dr. Pepper commercials" with youtube videos. However, he is mentioned near the bottom of the article in the same section as minor characters. He is not a regular or major character, having appeared in just 13 of 80 episodes so far. Unless there is some as-yet-unseen evidence of notability, I think the article should be merged with the appropriate section in the "List of 30 Rock characters". I would have done this but the move request suggests that someone might disagree so it would be more appropriate to discuss this first. Green Giant (talk) 11:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leo Spaceman 

message: Would now be a good time to create a section for Paul, Jenna's boyfriend starting in season 4?  He's been in several episodes now. Kevinbrogers (talk) 07:59, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul? 

message: All of these character pages (Jack Donaghy, Liz Lemon, Tracy Jordan, Jenna Maroney and Kenneth Parcell) are nothing but fanpages that contain only "in-universe" material.  The WP:notability (fiction) page says "Articles on fiction elements are expected to cover more about "real-world" aspects of the element, such as its development and reception, than "in-universe" details." These article do not mention any 'real world' aspects. They are completely unnecessary and don't need more than a brief overview on this page: List of 30 Rock characters. Comatmebro (talk) 07:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment - Kenneth Parcell recently survived an article for deletion/redirect so I don't think a merge discussion will go anywhere. I do personally think that Jack Donaghy is notable in the real world based on what I have seen of him in areas outside of 30 Rock, followed by Liz who is mostly notable by association with Tina Fey. The rest are questionable though Tracy Jordan is 50/50. I do think all the articles need a hatchet taking to them however, and a blanket removal of most of the fan-site style info wouldn't be a bad thing. EDIT Looking at Jack in particular, it is unsourced but apparently he has won like 12 awards for the character, so that is pretty notable. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Just a note, but there being a lot of character pages isn't really a good thing. Fans make them for anyone, go check out the list of Office characters for the US version. I just recently managed t get 5 or 6 of them merged, for characters that had appeared in 2-3 episodes at most. Same with Parks and Recreation, fans think their characters are super important and need an article but can offer little beyond a run down of events that happened to them in episodes. Being a character or main character in a show should not be justification for an article. I wouldn't, say, give the kids from Roseanne articles, whereas Roseanne and Dan Conner both have significant real world notability, they were huge at the time and still show up as rated examples of fictional couples. Does Alan Harper from Two and a Half Men need an article? No. No he does not. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 10:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't agree more on Alan Harper. It has a section about how much he masturbates.. *facepalm*  Comatmebro (talk) 00:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of multiple character pages 

message: Is it still neutral to say that Dennis's plans are "moronic"? I mean, it's pretty obvious that they are, but I still don't think that it's neutral, as that is sort of a biased word. Just wondering if it matters enough to be changed. Brambleberry of RiverClanmeow 23:27, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: Does anyone else think he needs a place under the "Recurring GE/NBC/Kabletown employees" section as a parody of himself?  He's appeared in numerous episodes throughout the series (including last night's "There's No I in America") and has more than established himself as a reoccurring part.  If I added him in would there be any objections? Jg2904 (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:   Brian Williams 

message: Hey, how is there no section on Kevin Sorbo?
Robin.lemstra (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kevin Sorbo 

message: The link for Brendan Walsh goes to the Wikipedia page of a chef that does not mention any acting or comedy work. Perhaps this should be Brendon Walsh (with an "o")? 74.71.77.184 (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brendon/Brendan Walsh? 

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message: This entire article is written from an in-universe perspective.  Would there be support for removing a bunch of "character attributes" that are actually just single-sentence jokes? Power~enwiki (talk) 04:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too "In-Universe"? 

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