Talk:British comics

message: * Archive 1 (19 May 2004 to 14 October, 2005)
(red link removed) Digifiend (talk) 13:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archives

message: DOesn't use inline citations but references, and the list of comics needs moving.  It hits the bases, but needs a little more. Hiding Talk 08:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: I'd say one main difference between British and US comics (though not all of them) is that US comics usually only feature one story (eg Spider-man, Batman), whereas British ones tend to feature several different stories per issue (2000AD currently has about 5-6, Viz generally has one or two per page, and the odd 3 pager). Also "Air Ace" (actually called "Air Ace Picture Library") is hardly the best example of the picture-library format (i don't think it even ran for 100 issues). A far better example is, of course, Commando, which is still published today. Also calling it a "black and white" comic is a bit wierd (the Beano certianly had mostly black and white pages up to about 1992 if i remember rightly). A better term might be "Adventure comic" or "War comic" (though other things like Super Detective Library and Hotspur weren't entirely set in war, Commando usually is...) 82.153.230.138 15:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Beano and Dandy became full colour in 1993, but both had about 50% colour pages since the 1980s. Digifiend (talk) 13:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Few odd things 

message: (Relevant comments copied from Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Comics Hiding  talk 14:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I see it, it's not an overview of the British comics scene, no, that's to come, probably at Comics in the United Kingdom.  This is a history of the British comic, as defined in the opening sentence. Hiding  talk 07:54, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it not make sense to rename this article to History of British comics or something simular then? The current title does not really cover the content. --Martin Wisse 11:46, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, History of the British comic to avoid the plural? Hiding  talk 13:40, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fine with me. Shall we Be Bold and move this article, or would it be better to mention it at the comics collaboration project page first? --Martin Wisse 08:12, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Yes, the article deals mainly with the history, but there is an Overview section, and in addition the American comic book page deals just as exclusively with history. IMO the move was a mistake and it should be moved back. rst20xx 18:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's confusing that this article follows a different nomenclature than other comics-related articles, the article British comics should primarily deal with the medium, not the publishing form. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 10:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration 

message: I've noticed that a number of the British comic magazines I've read about here on Wikipedia seemed to specialize in printing adventures based on popular TV shows of the time, famous examples being TV Action (comic), Countdown (comic), TV Comic itself, Look-In, etc.  Since this format isn't well-known over this side of the Atlantic, perhaps someone would start a stub describing it? -- Antaeus Feldspar 14:22, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add in TV Century 21, and its sisters Tv Tornado, Solo, Lady Penelope, Joe 90.  But surely it is pretty common to have comics based on TV series - Star Trek, of course, and Gold Key Comics had many others, didn't they? Hanna Barbera stuff, Buck Rogers, etc. The main difference is that the UK has always gone for weekly anthology titles with often only one or two pages to each strip each week. -- Beardo 01:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are entries like List of films based on comic books (although it was moved and needs moving back) and List of films based on comic strips (and see the see also on the latter for many more examples) so I'd suggest you could have List of comics based on TV series (using comics and TV series for their more neutral meanings - comic books and TV shows is a little too American ;) ). Looks like you already have the basics of the entry listed above - use those others as your basis for the list and you are away. Keep an eye on comics anthology and to add to the list: Stargate Comics, Justice League Adventures, The Batman Adventures, Gotham Girls#Comic series and Superman Adventures (the last four worth highlighting as they are comic book adaptations of a successful TV series which was based on the comic  books - all of them taking place in the DC animated universe which has seen minor crossovers with the core reality of the main DC Universe - for the full list of comics based on the DCAU see DC animated universe#Comic books). (Emperor 03:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article:  TV comic? 

message: http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/jong003were01_01/jong003were01_01_0002.htm
Could anybody help me with an issue involving British newspaper comics? The link goes to the start of the first (important) Dutch daily newspaper comic (1922), scroll down until the heroes meet a sort of an elf and a pig coming out of the London Evening News office in Fleetstreet. That elf-pig combination had its own comic in the London Evening News in that time, but I cannot find any indication what their names and the name of their series was. It is of some importance for the development of the history of Dutch (newspaper) comics, as it was the first comic series published in a Dutch newspaper.ThW5 09:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newspaper comics? 

message: A workgroup has been proposed to focus on the specific needs of British comics - sign up if you are interested in seeing it happen: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#British Comics (Emperor 23:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been started here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/British comics work group. (Emperor 01:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: British comics workgroup

message: There is now a proposed project or project subgroup relating explicitly to British comics at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#British Comics. Any editors interesting in working with this group should indicate their interest there. Thank you. John Carter 17:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed British comics group 

message: I was wondering about expanding this. I was reading this article  and it says the British are only recently getting into graphic novels proper (as opposed to British creators going over to the US and revolutionising their market in this field) and other than Raymond Briggs they might have a point - I started :Category:British graphic novels and the interesting thing is the number of literature adaptations. We recently had Kidnapped (graphic novel) and I started two articles on British publishers that have been appearing in the news Classical Comics and Self Made Hero. The interesting thing is the latter is specifically doing a line of manga adaptations of Shakespeare. Which leads into the issue of British manga - the manga Shakespeare line has art being provided by Sweatdrop Studios and/or winners of the UK/Irish version of Tokyopop's Rising Stars of Manga.
So would it be worth updating that section with a paragraph looking at the home-grown graphic novels and manga? (Emperor 17:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh and there is also ILYA's Mammoth Book of Best New Manga (which is due a second volume soon) and MangaQuake. (Emperor 18:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 21st century

message: The Guardian has launched a comic section  for kids but it is different from others (like I think the Times) which have a collection of comic strips and the like. It is printed in broadsheet format but the fold makes it into a nearly A4 4-page comic which has a 3 page manga-style story, Robot Girl (you can read it online at the link I give), across the first three and a competition on the back. It then folds out and the insides have activities for the children. Not only does it seem like an interesting development in itself it also touches on a few things above. The main one being that it is done (by John Aggs which has done Daedalus Blue and won the Rising Stars of Manga competition) in a manga-style which seems to be a trend these days. There is also a narrow strip along the bottom of the back page where Robot Girl says if you like her story you'll like DFC and then says DFC is a secret so it appears that DFC is still in the pipeline and that the Guardian might be doing a build up to its launch. (Emperor 13:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guardian Comics

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Eaglev14-41.png

message: This sentence is unclear:
 During the wars the Beano and Dandy thrived due to a ban on publishing new comics, 
 this was because of a paper shortage.
How come Beano and Dandy are excluded from the ban? Aren't they considered "new comics"? What's the reasoning? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 12:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point - I've asked for a source. I'd assume it means that the paper shortage during the war meant no new comics were allowed to be started. On comics Britannia the other night they did look at this period and they certainly did reduce the quality of the materials used and devoted a lot of time to promoting the war effort so they may also have been allowed to continue for that too. I suspect something like Paul Gravett's book should have the information and a quote might help clarify the statement. (Emperor (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. Yeah, Paul Gravett seems to do some good stuff. I enjoyed his book about manga. I mean, considering how much space was needed for the images, the written information is well-chosen. ;) (Seriously, it's a good book.) 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Beano and Dandy were both reduced from 24 pages to 10, and from weekly to fortnightly. Their newly launched sister comic Magic closed after 80 issues in 1941. This was mentioned in The Beano Special Collectors Edition: 70 Years of Fun. Digifiend (talk) 13:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. Anyway, the reduction from 96 pgs/month to 20 (approx) and the cancellation of the sister magazine hardly seems like "thriving" to me, although I assume they could still have gained some kind of monopoly when most others did much worse. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 10:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comics in wartime

message: I've had to sever the Comic Cuts links, as it refers to actor Jack Shepherd, not the comic. Somebody should create an article at Comic Cuts (Comic) then relink it. Digifiend (talk) 13:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can just change it so the redlink points to Comic Cuts (comics) (which is the name that follows WP:NCC). (Emperor (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic Cuts 

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message: Is this a comic? - i.e. did it feature comic strips to any extent? If not, then I think its prominence in this page should be downgraded.
--John Price (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Boy's Own Paper

message: This bit from the introduction is seems incorrect: "The top three longest-running comics in the world, The Dandy, The Beano and Comic Cuts are all British" - The Italian "il Giornalino" appears to have been published continuosly since 1924, and several titles (like the Belgian "Spirou" or the US "Detective Comics") have at least run significantly longer than Comic Cuts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.150.226.76 (talk) 14:28, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest-running comics 

message: I am surprised at the lack of any mention of Toxic (magazine) in the 21st century section. Even though it isnt a 'pure' comic I believe it still deserves a mention due to its high sales and influence on other comics such as The Dandy. Eopsid (talk) 14:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Toxic?

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message: Night Warrior appears to be an entirely online comic. Are we counting these? The list of comics isn't a list of websites. Richard75 (talk) 10:21, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online comics 

message: I've removed Andy Capp from the list of comics, because Andy Capp is not a comic and the list is not a list of characters or stories. Richard75 (talk) 10:26, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to be another case of differing terminology between US and UK. In the US, the word "comic(s)" refers to a medium, while in the UK, the word "comic(s)" often refers to a publishing format. What an American calls "comic(s)" might be called "comic strip(s)" in UK (which in US is a word limited to newspaper strips), while what a Brit would call "comic(s)" might be called "comic book(s)" or "comic magazine(s)". I think this differing terminology actually often is confusing when attempting to cover an international scope. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 12:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andy Capp