Talk:Forgotten Realms

message: I added an incomplete list of novels to the page.  I got it from my very old (1995-97) Forgotten Realms webpage, which has been offline for a long time (if someone wants to pick up the project, let me know, I have lots of archives).  Feel free to move the novels list to another place.  I also have the author names for all the books listed. Sdibb 04:37, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Novel list

message: The Faerûn page now includes a fairly complete high-level overview of the geography of the continent. — RJH 18:54, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography

message: I've started to fill out and add to the FR pages.  Darkhold, Crown Wars, Illefarn, and Daggerford.  I'd love some feedback.--RYard 17:30, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating

message: With a lack of a template I put the link to the WikiProject at the top of this page in italics so that it can be accessed more easily. -Erolos 16:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a template :Template:Forgotten Realms project. Poulsen 16:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject

message: The section somebody just wrote about the change to the FR cosmology in 3E seems quite POV to me, he/she is clearly one of the people who doesnt like the change. The section needs to be reworked to sound more neutral, or include references to claims that many players dont use it etc, else it should be removed as it seems to stick out somewhat. -- Lewis 15:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed this problem in the rework to the best of my ability. -- Lewis 02:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cosmology 

message: I've tried to rework this article in to a more encyclopedic one. I'm not a complete expert on the Forgotten Realms, I've just used what I could find, so there is a lot of room for extra stuff still to be added or redone. Hopefully this will inspire people to help improve the article. -- Lewis 17:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rework 

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I uploaded an image from the WotC website, which I now realize I can't use since Wikipedia policy prohibits copyrighted images to be used in templates, even when it's fair use. I'm putting it here for a while in the meantime, just to keep the orphan bot from eating it... --Maggu 10:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since two of these (almost identical) images now exist, we should be responsible and nominate one for deletion. -- Lewis 12:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've switched to using this new image as its better tagged and ill nominate the older one. -- Lewis 15:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another image 

message: Why does "dagnabbit" redirect here? Ben Tibbetts 02:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dagnabbit. --Muchness 12:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  dagnabbit redirect? 

message: I would like to see what other people's favorite characters from all of the Forgotten Realms books are. (Discussion on why HIGHLY encouraged.) Solon Olrek 18:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Pole

message: Eventually, as improvement for the book entries progresses, much of the content about the Campaign Setting books will be relocated to the existing Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting page, and this page will lose the D&D Books template. Serpent's Choice 06:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What content exactly? The FR is a collection of all the books published about it, I think it would be unwise to remove any information from this article at all. The books template yes, as this article isnt about a specific book, but it should include the history of what material has been published. Lewis 07:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is quite a bit more that can and should be added to the article: discussion of real-world inspiration for campaign features, discussions of the geography redesign for 3E, information about how the TSR to WotC handoff affected the campaign setting.  In an effort to ensure the article size is manageable, all I'm suggesting is that the next refactoring will probably result in a Main article: Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting line, much akin to the existing ones for video games and geography.  Serpent's Choice 07:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes there's definatley more to be added to this article as you say. It would be a good idea to add a main article line directing to the FRCS article in the section about product history, but no material needs to be removed from that section at this time. This main FR article should talk about the setting as a whole while the FRCS article should just talk about the line of campaign setting books, which they do, so I dont see any need for changes at the moment, although I think I'll add in the main article link as you suggest. Lewis 12:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I've actually put it in as a see also at the end of the history section, since that section doesnt just talk about the campaign setting books. Lewis 12:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goals for page 

message: I have read the series of R.A.Salvatore several times, from Homeland and The Canticle through The Two Swords and on to 
Promise of the Witch King. Each time I reach this point I know I've missed some content, some book. Promise continues the adventures of Jarlaxle and Artemis Entreri presumably from the Servant of the Shard ending, and yet there are characters and inferences to other material between these two novels. For example, Entreri's personal battle of owning the jeweled dagger that steals the very life essence of its victim. His skin now holds a grey hue from having used the dagger on a Shade. Which text is this in? Athrogate is commissioned to follow the drow and human duo to Bloodstone Village, and speaks as if he is well aware of the prowess of our protagonists from experience. Jarlaxle, and Entreri by association, are now in the employ of two dragon sisters, Ilnezhara and Tazmikella, and yet I feel as if their current relationship could not have been thrown at readers assuming they will take the current situation for given, there needs to be some history that I am lacking. Please tell me the title of the novel I am missing, I presume containing Jarlaxle and Entreri's dealings with the town of Heliogabalus and the reason The Promise begins with the pair exploring the tower of Zhengyi. I apologize for my ignorance and thank you in advance for any fruitful response.
66.177.111.198 02:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We did, those of us living on Earth.  Powers T 17:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What am I missing? 

message: it seems that Richard Baker has been under some criticism about the changes proposed in conjunction with 4th edition D&D towards Forgotten Realms.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?&p=14002775&postcount=19
should any of this be included on this page since he himself had to include mention of it in his own blog as a game designer?
shadzar|Talk|contribs 15:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see the need. Wikipedia isn't a play by play commentary on every little ever said about something and every little nit picking thing some fans may have about a subject. If we did that we'd end up with monstrous articles on any subject that related to the internet at all because there is always someone complaining about something. If a game magazine picks up the criticism in any great detail then it might be worth mentioning.--Crossmr 16:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  criticism 

message: Dagnabbit redirects here. I searched for it looking for info on the mild oath, and apparently, after checking history, it's the son of someone from forgotten realms. However, dagnabbit isn't actually MENTIONED on the page, thus, it's a very confusing redirect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.87.59.8 (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is unfortunately true of... almost all the redirects that point here, probably, because so many D&D-related articles were made into redirects (instead of simply being deleted) when they went through the AfD process. V2Blast (talk) 04:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dagnabbit 

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject Forgotten Realms has been inactive for quite a while; most of the associated articles are flagged for cleanup, and may actually fail the inclusion criteria. For a proposal how to deal with this situation consistently, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Forgotten Realms/Closure. Comments are welcome. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forgotten Realms project 

message: Hey there. :) In our recent push to get D&D articles up to Good Article status, we have been successful with Gary Gygax and Wizards of the Coast. My original intention was to move immediately on to Dragonlance and then Forgotten Realms. However, looking at both of them (and Drow, the only other article in the 0.7 CD selection), I realize that they are both hardly referenced at all, and even then are referenced mostly to primary sources. I know that they both have as much potential to get to GA as the EGG and WotC articles, but due to lack of sourcing and relying on in-universe info, they are both a long way off.
What we need are reliable sources, with which to source the info in these articles. If you have a book or magazine or something and can do the sourcing work yourself, then great. If you can point me to a website, then I can do the work. We need creator interviews, product reviews, publishing and sales information for the product lines, etc. Feel free to discuss here, or on the WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons talk page. :) BOZ (talk) 20:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article? 

message: We should only have one of the logos, to meet the "minimum use" requirement for non-free images. Which should be kept? -Drilnoth (talk) 23:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I always liked the original. ;) If they are using the same one in 4E that they used in 3E, I guess we can use that one, otherwise I prefer the 1E/2E logo. BOZ (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the original is better, too. -Drilnoth (talk) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I think it's probably up to a B now, or at least close. We're on the right track to getting it to GA. After I work on a few more deity pub histories, I'll have a look at some of the in-universe parts. We're badly in need of some creator interviews or something, which I think are probably easier to obtain than we're making it out to be. ;) Although it's a primary source, when I was working on Forgotten Realms Adventures yesterday, I noted that Jeff Grubb's introduction had a few paragraphs on the creation of the setting and its transition to official game world, so I tossed those references in. BOZ (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll look for some sources for the in-universe stuff, too. I think that that section can pretty much rely on primary sources if there are enough secondary sources in the article as a whole. -Drilnoth (talk) 19:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, especially if at least half of the article focuses on the setting's development, production, sales & reception, and licensing. BOZ (talk) 19:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Focus

message: As i recall from the second edition's campaign guide, Ed Greenwood said that the title "Forgotten Realms" came from the fact that the origins of most of the setting were found as several years' worth of idea scraps in a drawer at TSR, and given to him (Greenwood) as a project to be converted into a new setting.  Having played in first edition, i do not believe that the setting existed before second that i know of.  Anyway, the idea was that all these ideas had been forgotten in this drawer until someone found them one day, hence they became the "Forgotten Realms".  The book in question belonged to a very dear friend of mine whom i do not currently have ready access to, as he lives several states away, can anyone independently verify this as i wait for his answer?  dunerat (talk) 02:56, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin Story

message: Hello! Recently the link to the Forgotten Realms Wiki has been removed by Nikkimaria based on the WP:ELNO, specifically point 12. Exempt from deletion according to that guideline are only links to open wikis "with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors".
The Forgotten Realms Wiki has been alive and kicking since 2005, has 30,000+ articles, a number of active users and a steadily high acitivity, being currently rank no. 70 at Wikia with a WAM score of 97.37 (whatever that means). So my first thought was that the Forgotten Realms Wiki would be just such an exception. However it seems in general 100 or more active editors are expected, where the Forgotten Realms Wiki had about 60 active registered editors during the last month.
I would argue that having that link would still be useful for the readers of Wikipedia (which should be the main goal), because it is a valuable resource for people interested in the topic of "Forgotten Realms" and perfectly complementary to the topic's treatment at Wikipedia. (Forgotten Realms Wiki has the same emphasis on correct sourcing - albeit with primary sources - and covers everything that goes beyond Wikipedia's notability scope.) On the other hand the risk of the site being overrun by spammers and vandals, which seems to be the reason for requiring this "substantial number of editors" in the guideline, seems very small to me as the Wiki has existed and grown for 15 years and is going strong now.
What are other people's opinions? Thank you for bearing with me so far! Daranios (talk) 21:45, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at this discussion further up at ELN relating to another Wikia wiki, you'll see that the rationale for having that exception at all is disputed. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:51, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but in the same discussion reasons for why this exception exists are also given. And as far as I can see all the underlying reasons given both there and in the linked original discussion apply to the Forgotten Realms Wiki. Daranios (talk) 14:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the link should be included. It appears to be the most complete source of fan information for the fictional universe, which should overshadow the activity statistics. It doesn't seem like there's any reason for it not to be included and it will help people find information that is not notable enough for Wikipedia.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason for it not to be included is that it fails ELNO. That it's a source of fan information is not a redeeming point. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Also both of you should be aware of WP:CANVASS. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what WP:CANVASS has to do with this. The message on my talk page was neutral and did not tell me to !vote a certain way. My vote was simply based on WP:IAR as well as WP:COMMONSENSE.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the argument for inclusion is not that is is a source of fan information. Rather that it is exactly the opposite of point 1 of what ELNO says an external link should not be: The Forgotten Realms Wiki does provide a unique resource beyond what the article contains. Daranios (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But because it is a fan wiki, the reliability of that information is questionable. ZXCVBNM, specifically VOTESTACK - selective notification. Nikkimaria (talk) 11:44, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The possible canvassing would be on me, being the invitor. I have only looked more closely at this policy now. I have unsucessfully tried finding more opinions on the WikiProject first, (It seems I misremembered and asked elsewhere, sorry. I have put the question there now, let's see if we get more input. Daranios (talk) 12:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

text: About being a fan wiki again: The Forgotten Realms Wiki has using published information as a basis as its primary policy, thus it actively works on being reliable. Surely there are errors and mistakes, but I am convinced that they are few and far between. I am also sure that Wikipedia itself contains mistakes, Wikipedia working on exactly the same basis (fans of the project being authors and so on...), so I still see no reason to forbid that link on that basis.  Daranios (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely Wikipedia itself contains mistakes, that's why we don't cite it as a source. (In terms of getting more opinions, generally that's why discussing at a central venue like ELN is better...). Nikkimaria (talk) 20:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

text: I still hold that the answer to the 1Q in this case is no. It's not a link I would like to see promoted, given the current guidance at EL. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you like to give your reasons why you see the answer as no? Daranios (talk) 09:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We are deliberately very careful about the number and type of external links included under our guidelines, as we're not intended to be a directory for all websites that might be of interest to people reading a particular page. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not even a few (in this case more than one) which, to quote WP:EL "contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as [...] amount of detail"? But I guess I am repeating myself now. Could you be so kind, if you come upon a way to involve more Wikipedians in this question without canvassing, to let me know? Thanks a lot! Daranios (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: As no new opinions have been forthcoming for quite some time, I have reinstated the external link based on the current slight 2-to-1-opinions in favor here (or 3-to-2 in favor when including Forgotten Realms Wiki acceptable?). If there's a better way to deal with that, or how to get more opinions, please let me know. Daranios (talk) 08:37, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The ELN discussion did not find consensus in favour of including this link. You can either restart discussion there, or open an RfC to seek additional input. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:49, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Allright, I guess I'll start with trying to restart the discussion at ELN first. Maybe you can help me out: Do I republish the archived discussion, or just link there? Should I inform the editors involved in the past discussion? May I inform ZXCVBNM, or would you consider that canvassing even though they are obviously interested in the subject? Daranios (talk) 18:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest just linking there and pinging previous participants. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:41, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Including Link to Forgotten Realms Wiki?

message: Waterdeep#Government mentions "The Four", which redirects here.  The problem is, "The Four" are mentioned nowhere in this article.  By the way, I added the appropriate template to that redirect; whoever fixes this problem will need to remove it.  ZFT (talk) 04:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the redirect to the Waterdeep#Government for the time being. Is that acceptable to all? Daranios (talk) 19:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

text: The same is unfortunately true of... almost all the redirects that point here, probably, because so many D&D-related articles were made into redirects (instead of simply being deleted) when they went through the AfD process. Very few of them actually have that content mentioned in this article, especially more than just in passing. V2Blast (talk) 04:37, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing information 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Chultan Peninsula. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 21#Chultan Peninsula until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Jontesta (talk) 18:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Chultan Peninsula" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Dragonspine Mountains. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Dragonspine Mountains until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Aasim (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dragonspine Mountains" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Since I was reverted, need some input here.
The article now reads: Some critics have highlighted her introduction in The Icewind Dale Trilogy as limited and sexist.
A woman who has published a total of one article at Tor titled Searching for Body Positivity in Fantasy rants about how happy she was when she found a book where a fat woman was labeled as attractive, then whines about how in various other books the women who are beautiful are not fatties like her.  She claims this is clearly sexism.  The bit she quotes from the book simply calls Catti-brie "beautiful", there no description about her body parts or whatnot, so how is that "sexist"? 
The other part I tried to remove  is the part calling her limited.  The reference doesn't say "limited", she was a main character with an important job, that clearly mentioned in the io9 blog article, but the critic complains she only "gets only a few dozen lines".  Based on this single critic saying that, should it state that "some critics" instead of "one critic" complains she is "limited?"  Dream Focus 19:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Rob Bricken argued that her characterization in The Icewind Dale Trilogy is limited, while Aidan-Paul Canavan maintained that she becomes a 'heroe' only in later novels.
===References===
What does anyone think? Daranios (talk) 11:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catti-Brie claiming sexist 

message: What does anyone think? Daranios (talk) 11:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Heyo , some questions as usual:
*  What's meant by epic here? Is it supposed to be read in the colloquial sense as "awesome", or that Dragonlance is an epic? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:48, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think there's been an discussion. Forgotten Realms isn't an in-universe title as far as I know. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . I'll get rid of the italics (including the title) in that case. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  That seems to makes sense to me. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Per the Fandom Wikia, it's a "farming community" which includes a town named Shadowdale and the larger surrounding region. I'm not the most familiar with Forgotten Realms lore but I can try to track down an older sourcebook to verify. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have said a small (14,000 inhabitants by one description) self-governed nation covering a valley with the same name. (And a farming community, and the name of the "capital" town.) Daranios (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . I'll just say "region" in that case. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Like the italics above, I don't think there's any consistency when edition is capitalized. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . As far as I can tell the book titles themselves don't state which edition they're for (looking at the PHB for 5e as an example), so I'll keep them decapitalised. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Sounds good to me. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Replaced. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  I don't have access to the source (Dragon #244) to verify but maybe  does? Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The full sentence from the magazine said: "In Greenwood’s original conception, Earth’s fantastic legends derive from a fantasy world that we‘ve now lost the way to-hence, the Forgotten Realms. “Concerns over possible lawsuits (kids getting hurt while trying to ‘find a gate’) led TSR to de-emphasize this meaning,” he says." BOZ (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Keeping as is. Many thanks, . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Products codes went out of style & the publisher eventually stopped using them. I typically don't include them but I don't think that something the D&D project has formalized as an official style. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Removing product codes; they're still present in their own articles, but I think mentioning them here is trivial at best. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text: . Removing all product codes from titles anyway. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  The fictional region of Kara-Tur was introduced in the Oriental Adventures (1985) sourcebook. Later, the region was expanded on & added to the Forgotten Realms setting as new location within the world via the 1988 boxed set. The boxed set was designed to be used with the original sourcebook. The boxed set was what made it cannon to the Forgotten Realms. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Reworded paragraph to state as such. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  I think that makes sense. Sometimes there are in-universe lore explanations for the mechanical changes between editions (like how magic works). Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . I substituted an instance of AD&D with "ruleset", so that should make it apparent what it is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  It should probably be italicized. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Per the Fandom Wikia, it was just the one year. If anyone has access to The Grand History of the Realms, that would probably be the best primary source for verification. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I can confirm this based on the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition, p. 271. Daranios (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Reworded to make it clear the term applies to the time gap. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  I assume it is referring to the sentence before it which highlights a campaign book, a player's guide, and an adventure. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Replaced  with . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  I'm going to be ping  on this one because I think they did the Jarlaxle merge after the AfD. It might have been text copied over from the deleted article. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Caroline de Launay wrote an Anglistics PhD thesis which has characterization of Jarlaxle. I have added her short description, which was missed by the editor performing the merge of Jarlaxle here. I am not completely sure if this is the best description, more about her can be found at the first hit of this Google search. BTW, thanks for the detailed work on where to improve! Daranios (talk) 08:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  . You're very welcome!  —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Yes, the sentence probably should be broken up. The first two modules were published before the Forgotten Realms as a setting. The fourth one already has the Forgotten Realms logo on the cover. The introduction to the third one explains: "We should also point out that the BLOODSTONE PASS saga takes place in the FORGOTTEN REALMS Fantasy Game Setting, new from TSR, Inc. A certain amount of retrofitting was needed to integrate this series into our new official game world". (And the countries of Damara and Vaasa, setting of all four modules, were incorporated into the Forgotten Realms.) Daranios (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . I separated the sentence into two. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Going to ping  again because I know they have this book series & I don't have access to this source. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The actual quote from the book says of the Avatar series that "Unlike the “underground conspiracy” of Dragonlance, this event was planned from the top-down by management." If you have questions about the meaning of what is actually written in "Designers & Dragons", you can always ask User:ShannonA directly. :) BOZ (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . I've added "by" in to make it more natural, though I think it could stand to be a little less colloquial. I'll leave a ping for  here, but otherwise I'll consider this to be resolved once I'm wrapping up. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text: . There's not much else I can do here, so I'll consider this resolved. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Correct. Daranios (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . Removed some missed product codes while I was at it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

text: *Did he ever stop? I just had a look, and found the last article of Greenwood's column "Eye on the Realms" is right in the last Dragon magazine issue no. 430 (2013). I have seen one article by him in the following Dragon+ magazine, as well as several reprints of old ones there. Daranios (talk) 20:12, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . Again, not a copyedit issue, but might be something to include. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Alrighty, good to know, Daranios. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:41, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

text: *I think this only means that the combat prowess of Wulfgar, Drizzt and Guenwyvar together was so great that... The original source says "Drizzt and Wulfgar are so preternaturally badass they beat 25 giants by themselves (well, with help from Drizzt’s magic panther Guenhwyvar..." Daranios (talk) 20:12, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . I used "immense", but perhaps another qualifier would work better to describe Wulfgar's combat prowess. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:41, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

text: , I've looked over the article and have made a few more tweaks. I'll consider the request to be complete soon if I don't hear from you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for taking the time to do the review. Apologies for the delayed response; I've been offline while ill. I'm going to tag a few other editors who might have more insight and I'll take a look at the above. Pinging:  Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really have any more suggestions than those I've made in previous Talk sections. I think this article needs more than GOCE, I'm afraid. I'm talking a rewrite from the ground up based on reliable secondary sources, not primary books, storefronts, interviews, listicles, etc. We also need to summarize sources in our own encyclopedic writing rather than rely on pull quotes that verge on COPYVIO and NPOV violations. But that's my $0.02. Woodroar (talk) 21:48, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Feel better soon! BOZ (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

text: , I echo what others said here (get better soon too :D). Also see my comment below. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Thanks for your responses, everyone (hopefully you're feeling much better ). I'll make changes to what I've got for now. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  , if there's nothing else, I'll consider the request to be complete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Considering everything to be done on my end. Best of luck with nominations! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:55, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  GOCE copyedit request 

message: Minsc is possibly notable although I haven't looked at the reception section there in much detail. Anyway, the odds are he can be mentioned h ere. Erevis Cale, I am not so sure, and he is getting AfD right now. Nothing to rescue there, however (no reception or analysis). All other entries in the :Category:Forgotten Realms characters are notable or redirect here anyway. Good job expanding the list here with notable entries grounded in real world significande, folks! Maybe this article can be GAed (the history section needs beefing up with more refs, however). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we want to go into video game-only characters here though? 98.32.192.121 (talk) 06:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Minsc and company also appear in the  Dungeons and Dragons comics which, to my understanding, parallel several of the major 5th edition adventures. He also seems to be at least mentioned in Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus and Murder in Baldur's Gate, establishing his existence in the table-top RPG, if we care of such things. So I'd say in total with regard to Minsc specifically, yes, let's include him. Daranios (talk) 08:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Minsc]] not mentioned yet, same for [[Erevis Cale]] at AfD 

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message: Netheril redirects here, but it's not mentioned in the article anywhere.  139.138.6.121 (talk) 08:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the tip! I have changed the redirect to Netheril: Empire of Magic for the time being. There, Netheril is briefly discussed. Daranios (talk) 14:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The redirect has been shifted further to Faerûn. I am not so sure this is the better option, as the mention of Netheril there is currently very short, but it's one viable option. Daranios (talk) 12:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Netheril 

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