Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Derbyshire/Archive 2

message: Hi all. I'm in the process of tagging a few articles with the new template. I started with List of civil parishes in Derbyshire and i am slowly working my way through them. I also noted that while we have no articles unassessed for quality we do have a shedload of articles of unassessed importance. I'm working my way through it but if anyone would help that would be brill.Dommccas 16:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep I will - i've been working through it very slowly, and as you know ive done the quality importance already. Thanks, Bluegoblin7 16:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do as many as I can, I've done a few when I have accidentally come across them. Schumi555 (talk) 17:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Coolio. I'll have a go and it should be done in no time. Oh and don't forget to tag the ones that need photos, infobox, a map or stats.Dommccas 18:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagging goodness 

message: I have just finished a spangly new welcome template to entice people to the project. 
 
See docs on the templates page and also on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Derbyshire/Templates. Here it is welcoming this talk page to the project.
	Hello . You have been invited to join WikiProject Derbyshire, a WikiProject dedicated to improving the Derbyshire-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in, or edits .  If you would like to join or just help out a bit, please visit the project page, and add your name to the list of project members. You may also wish to add  to your userpage.
If you want to make it a bit prettier feel free. It is a little boring at the mo and quite like our banner.Dommccas 19:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty good atm! Idea to improve it: A series of images, animated as a GIF. There are already some on here, called adverts or something?!?! I'll have a think... Bluegoblin7 19:34, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. They look a lot better than boxes in my opion anyway. For those who want it heres some more info on the adverts. Dommccas 19:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can probably put some images together over the next few days, but as for animating them...i'm afraid i'm way to busy with GCSE mocks at the moment... Bluegoblin7 19:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome template 

message: Could I ask for some help accessing local knowledge, from members of this wikiproject, on the behalf of the new WikiProject Museums? We are currently trying to identify articles within the Museum projects scope (& develop guidelines to help improve them etc). There is a List of museums in Derbyshire. Could you take a look at the list for your local area and see if any are missing or create articles for any red links. Could you also add the new project banner "" to the Talk pages of the articles, so that we can identify those in need of work etc. Any help appreciated &, if anyone is interested you are welcome to join the project or discuss Museum related articles on the Project Talk Page.— Rod talk 13:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Museums in Derbyshire 

message: Hi all,
Just a note that we should all try and re-assess Start and B articles, due to the new C class, which is in the middle. I'll post further specs later!
BG7even 19:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-assessments of Start and B articles 

message: Greetings.
I stumbled on the Glossop article, and was alarmed at what I found. I have looked back at the last 500 pages of it's history to see why it was in such a state and was no happier. Good editors, seemed to be reverted and their text overwritten by copyvios. The images I contributed to Commons were taken one dismal afternoon so are of no great quality but at least their copyright status is pucker. Before I joined  a edit war in the making I had to be clear in my own mind what the aim should be. Milnrow has just got GA, so I took it as a template and refering to WP:UKTOWNS I have starting drafting a new version at User:ClemRutter/Glossop/New and I now invite comments. If I think some consensus has been reached, I will post it onto the mainspace article and hope that the editors who have been so destructive in the past, will also accept that this is the way forward. At that point I may need assistance! As I have never assessed an article, prefering to take BOLD photographs I would be greatful if someone who has, could give criticism and pointers and to do an assessment when it hits mainspace.
ClemRutter (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have posted the changes to main space--so please come and have a look. ClemRutter (talk) 23:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A far better article, especially in terms of style. Some great work! Schumi555 (talk) 08:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glossop 

message: This may interest some of you, according to Halle Berry's WP page her maternal grandmother was born in Sawley, Derbs.I've just checked and there is no mention on the Sawley WP page. There may be room here for someone to research this for the Sawley page. Dmcm2008 (talk) 20:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halle Berry 

message: As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level.  The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
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thread_title:  Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme 

message: In this list are what I would call "things" rather than places (rivers, buildings etc).  This seems to stretch the meaning of the word "places" and does not appear to be applied similarly in other lists of places.  What do participants in this project think about this? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a quick look at the list to me the only obvious non settlements are the reservoir's. A separate list with a link may be more appropriate. The Listing of every little hamlets with just a one line heading could be questionable as well, till they get to a size of more than a couple of paragraphs they may be better attached to the nearest larger settlement. (but then theres probably a historic discussion on that aspect some ware). The list is also faulty at the bottom with about 20 [Edit] boxes in the table. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 13:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite a few non-settlements have already been deleted (I thought the inclusion of Derby Arboretum as a settlement was hilarious). I went through the list some time back cross-referencing it with another list and trying to identify some of the places- hence some of the one-line hamlets. It appears the fault with the boxes will now only be resolved by the removal of the images. Ning-ning (talk) 15:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've fixed the problem of the edit boxes by using a trick ultimately thought up by some editors on the Greater Manchester Project to deal with a similar issue. If it doesn't suit people, it can be reverted.  DDStretch  (talk) 16:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of places in Derbyshire]] 

message: To Join the Project why the over complicated editing of template boxes ?
why not a simple link like on WikiProject Yorkshire See Here
Or Have I missed some thing Here, Sure your missing out on members  ? - BulldozerD11 (talk) 10:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just had a look myself, and even though I've done the process before I can't work it out now. Ning-ning (talk) 11:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for reply Ning-ning, sorted it now by taking the BOLD step and re done the table in WikiCode, so easier for newcomers to edit and with a plain back ground for readability. Any problems Discuss here or my talk page ---BulldozerD11 (talk) 19:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joining WikiProject Debyshire 

message: Just thought I'd add a comment that it appears that this project is not doing much cos we don't chat here... but its not true. There is a lot being done. Do mail any of us on the list if you want some help. You want to join? You've joined! Welcome BulldozerD11! Victuallers (talk) 12:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  We don't write, we don't phone ... 

message: Have rearranged the Categories section as No obvious order (to me), with Drrbyshire + Derby at top of columns. Then put Physial Derbyshire on the left (Rivers, villages etc), and Other to the right with Government to the top, then sort Abc.--BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derbyshire Categories 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Derbyshire 

message: Have Completed assessing all the unassessed articles, so we now have 100%, following the previous efforts of other editors to clear the list (which I keept adding to).  Any  you feel are wrong feel free to change / discuss my logic.  Assessments are from the prespective of WP Derbyshire so other projects ratings may differ, generaly ive not changed their rating.
A few Comments;
# some existing stub articles should probably move to 'Start' (have some or all of:- proper refs, ibox, navbox, photo structure, concise, junk free etc) Size is not important its content that matters.
# Some existing 'Start' articles need to go to the new C class as have most of above list.
# some groups of related articles need nav boxes or list of (subject group) adding or creating.
# photos and images lift them off the page
# iboxes need to stop being ruined by deletion of unused items when initaly inserted as later editors are less likely to fill in missing cats with info when available (mainly companies that Ive seen this on). (note added to companies infobox template talk page).
# we need to find more articles related to Derbyshire.
Thanks to user:Victuallers encuoraging me to tackle the list. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 00:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessments for WikiProject Derbyshire 

message: I think some ofthe articles could do with a navbox like the Places of Interest, Trams and Derbyshire County one.
*Rivers - do we do a waterways one, or expand the Derbyshire county one like the Manchester one.
*Buildings & structures - Chatsworth etc, other houses, lost houses, tunnels, bridges, 
*Famous people - Cavandishes etc, High Sherrifs, Lords, etc
*Sporting teams - main football, Cricket, Rugby teams
*Sports Stadiums - part of buildings & structures ? or part of teams ?
Any ideas & comments on format + content ? - BulldozerD11 (talk) 22:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navboxes 

message: If anyone is wondering why i changed these two places to top importance, it is because Derby is the main city and Matlock is the county town. Simply south (talk) 23:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that makes sense, we didn't have many articles at all at top importance. Schumi555 (talk) 08:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Another note is that i just ran the assessment bot just now and so it will update the assessments and i sorted the year old logs to current, also saving size.  Simply south (talk) 14:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thx. (We need I think to be (a bit?) more generous in our assessments of importance, I think.)  Victuallers (talk) 14:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note on Matlock and Derby 

message: I didn't have much look over at Talk:Church of St Mary and All Saints, Chesterfield, so I'll try here...
I know the sign outside the church used to give the name as 'Church of St Mary and All Saints', but now, as shown on the picture I took today, it seems to have changed to Chesterfield Parish Church. Anyone able to expand on this? Thanks, Schumi555 (talk) 13:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure. I think wikipedia likes the normal name. So for instance Halloween and not All Saints Eve. If they (the church) are trying a new name then I guess we need a redirect until it gets to be accepted. Victuallers (talk) 14:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okies, I'll set one up. Schumi555 (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Church of St Mary and All Saints?