Wikipedia talk:Sheynhertz-Unbayg cleanup/Archive

message: Once each article in the list is dealt with, should it be removed? --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say yes, but it is not clear to me if this will interfere with ensuring that this list is complete and we catch everything. Kusma (討論) 13:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It could be striken Pavel Vozenilek 16:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing articles 

message: Interiot just created a list of all articles Sheynhertz has ever touched until about June 10, 2006. The list can be found here. There are 3300 pages and 2000 redirects that should be checked. Any good ideas how we should organize this other than split it in "packets" of 20-50 pages alphabetically and have someone adopt a packet and then certify that the packet has been checked? Kusma (討論) 19:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe copy the list to the project page and then people just pick one, check it, work on it, and leave notes on the project page as to what they are doing and when they are done they can strike through the listing?  ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 21:04, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Since I have gotten so many already, it might be more efficient for me to do it. The pages that I have already gotten show up as followed links on the list of the pages he edited. Also, I have been using Microsoft Word to sort the list of pages and to add the brackets and asterisks automatically, which saves a ton of time. However, school is starting soon. I guess it depends how long it takes. I went through the "A"s pretty quickly. I stopped to work on a few pages, so it just seems like it took longer. I'll do some more later and try to estimate the time it would take me to do all of them. If I remember correctly, all of the pages that have "onomastics" in them have been added to the list already (I was working on it late at night about a week ago). The list is currently at 222 articles and I think it will get much larger. However, I have included disambiguation pages that obviously need work, as well, so he may not be responsible for all of it. It would not make sense to check the history of each page and make sure that he was the one who messed up the page. I have checked some of the histories, and he is responsible for the vast majority of them if my sample is any indication. -- Kjkolb 10:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Edits made by SU after June 10, like those from August 11 ] are not present in the Interiot's list. Pavel Vozenilek 19:16, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete list 

message: He added many names to various lists of Jews and to their talk pages.  For example, on List of Jewish historians he added one name, Victor Ehrenberg, who certainly should be there.  Probably, he only put them in the lists when he was sure they were Jewish, otherwise into Talk.  All these edits seem to be in good faith and sound, so it should be safe to accept them.--20.138.246.89 13:14, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of Jews 

message: If somebody could explain to SU what we are doing here and why he is blocked, it would be great. I don't think he understands what I say, and I don't understand what he says, so I have given up talking to him. Maybe someone else could watchlist his talk page and talk to him a bit? Kusma (討論) 08:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explain what we are doing 

message: The biography stubs that SU created are not on the list, although I guess most of them are linked to the disambig. pages.  The bio's suffer from many of the same issues that the disambig. pages do, and many of them should be deleted because of notability considerations.
—Batamtig 15:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography stubs 

message: SU's articles often contain non-existent interwiki link. For those pointing into Japanese Wiki something always exist but it may be an error page or just something about Sheynhertz-Unbayg. I do not have proper fonts see how the page looks but the texts do not contain names in Latin script which one would expect them. 
An example is Wilhelm Tomaschek (non-existent German and Czech links, suspicious Japanese link). Pavel Vozenilek 22:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It went to an empty page. You should be able to tell from the red link at the top left (for "article"). Kusma (討論) 15:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese interwiki links 

message: I recommend to delete this list after all other items by SU get cleaned out (it is good now to spot SU's articles). The content is abitrary: for example the second most frequent Czech surname Novotný is missing or Kovář (6th) more. OTOH Erben is infrequent and unusual and likely of German origin. I have doubt the rest of the list fares better. Pavel Vozenilek 22:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Slavic surnames]] 

message: Hi, I prodded a few of SU's onomastics articles earlier this evening before noticing you were working on this project. They'll be listed on . Do you want the prod removed in order to do cleanup, or shall I leave them to be deleted? DWaterson 23:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prod'ed articles

message: Although I have blocked SU's main internet provider (see User:Kusma/Sheynhertz for a list of blocked ranges), he sometimes edits from different IPs and creates sockpuppet accounts there. So it is a good idea to watch pages you have cleaned up. If he reverts you, you can report him at WP:ANI and request the sock to be blocked. Kusma (討論) 16:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sockpuppets 

message: At User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg/sig is located the signature of blocked user Sheynhertz-Unbayg. He won't be needing it anymore, can we subst: the template and delete it afterwards? Punkmorten 12:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That he is banned is irrelevant here, templates should never be used in signatures. Subst and delete. Kusma (討論) 12:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subst'ing signature 

message: User:MidreszRabbe. 
My heart aches while I was reading all this saga of this poor disoriented man. But unfortunately what he does is out of scope of wikipedia rules—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.18.43.225 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 26 January 2007  (UTC)
:He has been blocked and mostly reverted. Thank you! Kusma (討論) 08:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reincarnation

message: I began a cleanup of the list: I opened every non-striked-out article and either I stroke it out beacuse it was already cleaned-up, or I tagged it with . Quite many articles had already been cleaned-up but were not striked out, and I also found that :Category:Disambiguation pages in need of cleanup is much more effective in moving this project forward. If anyone wants to join in this task, please do. Letters A and B are done.--20:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, I have been undoing this psychopath's edits for awhile now without realizing there was a project page. It is true that a very large number of articles on the list have been cleaned up already but are not striked out; I will try to work on this as well. Also, I'm quite sure this is a sockpuppet (see contribs), although it hasn't been used since October. Anyway, this task is far closer to completion than it appears. Keep up the good work! shoeofdeath 00:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List cleanup 

message: Can be found here. Punkmorten 21:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full list of articles created by SU 

message: It seems this cleanup project is still pretty much alive, so I might as well ask about an unclear point: There is :Category:Onomastics, which is said to be cleaned up by WP:SU. Now, for the past few weeks, I was under the impression that this category was to be emptied as every dab/surname page got cleaned up ("Articles should be removed from Category:Onomastics once they are converted to regular disambiguation pages."), so I removed this category from all of my cleaned-up SU dab/surname pages. But then I noticed that there are still a dozen or more articles that already got cleaned up/striked out, especially when they are surname (no dab) pages, so I'm not so sure anymore. So: Is it the goal to get rid of this category or not? – sgeureka t•c 22:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say yes, the category should definitely be eliminated. I have also been looking through some of the striked-out pages and am noticing that not all of them are completely "cleaned up"; in addition to articles still existing in that category, many bogus Japanese interwiki links are still there, etc. Perhaps we need to go back through all of striked-out pages and make sure things like this are taken care of. Also, that list of articles he created frightens me. I am trying to stay optimistic, but this project is far from over. shoeofdeath 22:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, but I suggest that whoever back-checks striked-out entries marks them as double-checked. I don't know, maybe I'll be extremely bored in a few days/weeks and unnecessarilly waste time to recheck pages that you or someone else already checked again. ;-) (Just leave the Baum/Baumstein example intact). – sgeureka t•c 00:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, well, I went back and double checked everything on the list through J. I didn't read your suggestion until afterwards, though, so there are no marks. I went through rather quickly and probably didn't catch everything, so when you have a ton of time to waste (like me lately) feel free to check again. It is sort of satisfying to clean up this colossal mess. shoeofdeath 04:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Onomastics ? 

message: I changed the instructions to suggest moving to (surname) if it's just a descriptive paragraph and a list of people with that surname, and a disambiguation page exists. See WP:MOSDAB and recent discussions on its talk page. Chris the speller 20:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We were already doing this, I believe. All pages with (onomastics) in the title are being deleted with content moved elsewhere. shoeofdeath 20:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  (onomastics) to (surname) 

message: By the way, this was another action carried through without any discussion. It could be argued that archiving this talk page was not necessary, and not a particularly good thing, especially since there was a thread opened only two days ago. The talk page was not too large, either (see Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page for guidelines). Punkmorten 06:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I archived it because the project is moving into a new phase shortly. There were no active threads. shoeofdeath 06:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The thread "(onomastics) to (surname)" was only two days old, so you can't really consider it inactive. And furthermore, which phase would this be and who decided this? Punkmorten 06:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was absolutely inactive. He made a suggestion to do something that we were already doing. The next phases will deal with other things besides surnames. shoeofdeath 06:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

text: By the way, I am currently going through the list that you posted (if that is what you were worried about). We might need another one that includes redirects as well but it will certainly do for now. shoeofdeath 06:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I was worried about the list - because of the low quality of SU's entries. Furthermore it shows that only a small part of his creations were listed on this project page. Punkmorten 06:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is definitely understood; the project so far has only included surname pages. I am sorting through the list currently, it will take me a little while to finish with it. He basically copy-pasted an enormous amount of material here, mostly from the Jewish Encyclopedia (more coming on the rest of the project soon). shoeofdeath 06:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About archiving this talk page