Talk:Saint Petersburg

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Please, change the photo of Pulkovo airport.
Now we have new terminal, long awaited,
and don`t have those Russian types as portrayed
(hope obtain some).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.134.38.217 (talk) 20:11, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airport photo 

message: Please respect our Russian spelling and change. Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.166.82 (talk) 09:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:COMMONNAME Jaan Pärn (talk) 10:15, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I agree - this isn't a question of "respecting our Russian spelling", but simply of using the accepted name in the language you happen to be writing in. If we were to apply the "respect" principle, then we'd have to insist that Russian-speakers stop calling Rome "Рим" ("Rim") and Athens "Афины" ("Afiny" - Russian doesn't have a sound corresponding to "th", and replaces it with "f") and change them to something more "respectful" of Italian- or Greek-speakers. So please don't tell us English-speakers how to use our own language - just as we English-speakers shouldn't tell Russian-speakers how to use theirs.213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  My city is called Sankt Petersburg! Not Saint.... 

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message: Encyclopedant (talk) 07:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Where?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 13, 2015; 13:08 (UTC)
In the name of the city. There shouldn't be a hyphen, it spells in English exactly as it is over here. The confusion comes from Russian language where the name of the city spells with a hyphen: Санкт-Петербург ('Saint-Petersburg').  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.235.133.18 (talk) 16:25, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't there be a hyphen? 

message: As a wikinewbie just wondering how wikieditors decide who is included on the article page and who remains amongst the 800 people in:   Some city articles just have the wikilink under the notable people section ie. Baltimore    Coolabahapple (talk) 06:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous people?

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thread_title:  [[Timeline of Saint Petersburg]] 

message: If it's Санкт-Петербург (Sankt-Peterburg) in Russian, why are we calling it St. PeterSburg? Sca (talk) 00:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it is St. Petersburg in English.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is probably because of its German form Sankt Petersburg, which needs s as an indicator of the genitive (posessive) case. Шурбур (talk) 11:41, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: Why it has been deleted?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Concord92 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:GALLERY.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery of paintings of Saint-Petersburg 

message: In 'Russia of the Russians'  by Harold Whitmore Williams it only says on page 33 : "He [Peter the Great] was beaten at Narva, but in 1703 he beat the Swedes at Nyenschatz on the site of present day St. Petersburg, and again in the first sea fight won by Russians in modern times." The reference is not covering what is written.Taksen (talk) 08:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: But it does not make sense to say that this happened according to Williams. We need to either find a better source or to remove it. (I believe this is correct and a better source should be available, but this is debatable). --Ymblanter (talk) 18:35, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nyenschantz 

message: We're told the "official Greek name is Αγία Πετρούπολη". This suggests there's an unofficial, and by implication more common, Greek name - but according to the Greek version of this article the name is either "Πετρούπολη" or "Πόλη του Αγίου Πέτρου", and no mention is made of the "official" name quoted here. In any case, few English-speaking readers will know what the Greek letters stand for, or why the Greek name might be important. Either this sentence should be deleted, or else explained.213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek name 

message: There was no established form of the toponym during Peter's life. The form Sant Pi(e)ter Burch looks like Dutch (sant is a variant for sint), others more like (Low) German, Swedish or even English. As for the argument that calvinists do not venerate saints, there are a lot of placenames in the Netherlands like Sint Pieter etc. Шурбур (talk) 13:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sankt 

message: Is it just me or is the location of Saint Petersburg not on the map of Russia? The little pinpoint is missing.  I checked on both Chrome and IE. Lord David, Duke of Glencoe (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no pinpoint. The SVG map has Saint Petersburg's area highlighted red, as it is its own federal subject. AndreyKva (talk) 10:02, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: AndreyKva Thanks I see it now, it's just quite small. Lord David, Duke of Glencoe (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

message: @Ymblanter: Can you sort out why the infobox is showing an error ("[convert: invalid number]") for the population density? The superficial reason is that a calculation is performed and the result is passed to  but the calculation resulted in an error message which made convert display "invalid number". Even a month ago, the infobox had a strange mix of 2010 and 2017 items related to population. I suspect that pop_latest_date needs to be fixed, but what about the other 2017 mentions? Johnuniq (talk) 00:36, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I realized I did not respond. I tried adding the auto parameter but failed, I was not sure what gives the error.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  But the last census was 2010. There were no censuses in 2012 or 2017.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population density error 

message: *12 June: referendum on city's name
*25 June: Leningrad's city council votes to change the name   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyearbaby (talk • contribs) 14:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: 1991 name change key dates

message: None of my edits for population and population density to the city template are not showing up. Can someone help me fix it. -KrishnaDasMath (talk) 03:09, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no 2017 census. The last census was 2010.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know that. It is a population estimate. But the 2010 census data should be added to the article. And we stil need to add population density. -KrishnaDasMath (talk) 03:19, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm having trouble adding in the population density of St. Petersburg to this article. 

message: * Mikhail Kutuzov
* Alexander Blok
* Dmitri Shostakovich
* Peter II of Russia
* Alexander III
* Vladimir Putin
* Dmitry Medvedev
* Nicholas Roerich
* Joseph Brodsky
* Kolya Vasin
* Mikhail Boyarsky
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replies: text: I certainly agree.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mikhail Kutuzov, Dmitri Shostakovich, Alexander III, Kolya Vasin... Whaaa??? 

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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Saint Petersburg]] for deletion (2nd nomination) 

message: Helsinki (H-E-V) is (a) a metropolis; and (b) further north. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis#Finland  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:7D0:8332:C680:DACB:8AFF:FEA7:FCDD (talk) 10:00, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the northernmost metropolis 

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message: The section titled "Etymology" is not correctly named. The information it contains concerns the name of the city and how it changed through time, however, it is not an etymological analysis.
Etymology is the study of the origin of words and the way in which their meanings have changed throughout history. It is the study of the history of a word. The several "words" that have been names of the city are not subject to an etymological analysis, they are of course "historical" but not in an etymological way. The origin of its original name and the name that it currently holds lacks the "logical" etymology of a word that starts with its origin followed by its development as a "word" throughout history. The word "development" is most operative in this situation. The city name does not "develop", it just changes according to politics (for the lack of a better word). Etymology is a "linguistic discipline". The changing of the city name through time does reflect a "linguistic" progression.
Toponymy (there is a section with this title that contains appropriate toponymic information) is a taxonomic study of place-names, based on etymological, historical, and geographical information. A place-name is a word or words used to indicate, denote, or identify a geographic locality such as a town, river, or mountain.
The "Etymology" section should be renamed to "Toponymy" and the existing "Toponymy" should be included so that all information about the city name is in one location, in one section. 
As an aside, if and when the two sections are joined as "Toponymy", it should be edited to make it more logical and readable.  
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replies: text: Good point, you're perfectly right. For most cities, we do have a section on etymology that actually deals with etymology, but of course not so much of an issue for St Petersburg (being a 'young' city with a picked name. Renaming to toponymy seems the best option. Jeppiz (talk) 20:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Etymology" as a section title is not correctly applied, shouldn't the Etymology section be named "Toponymy"? 

message: Shouldn't there be a link to Russia at the start of the article? Pineappman (talk) 16:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: MOS:OVERLINK says that you don't need to link well-known countries.  Links like this are to help people who don't know what Russia is, but everybody knows what Russia is.  This article has some navigation boxes at the bottom.  Most of them don't have links to Russia, but there is a Russia portal down there.  Bruce leverett (talk) 18:47, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russia Link 

message: There are two sections called “Toponymy”. Should they be merged, one renamed, or all of the other sections renamed “Toponymy” too for consistency? boffy_b (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toponymy and Toponymy