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Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter/Proposed decision

message: ;Arbitrators active on this case
*Charles Matthews
*Fred Bauder
*Jdforrester
*SimonP
*Blnguyen
*FloNight
Morven and Raul654 are inactive as of March 1, 2007.
;New arbitrators inactive on this case
Arbitrators appointed after the case was accepted are assumed by default to be recused from cases already open at the time they took office.  If an arbitrator becomes active on this case (by declaration or activity), his/her name will be moved to the active list and the majority adjusted accordingly.
*Flcelloguy
*Kirill Lokshin
*Paul August
*UninvitedCompany
*Jpgordon
*Mackensen
There are 5 arbitrators participating in the case and a majority is 3. Newyorkbrad 20:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbitrators 

message: Dear all,
I don't know exactly how this is supposed to work, but it looks to me like the 4th arbitrator to vote gets to decide the whole question of outcomes.
Fred B says on the proposed decision page that this is a close question, so I'll ask the "4th arbitrator" to look closely at the evidence.  Though it seems that I've ben accused of almost everything possible (and at great length) the only thing that people want to punish me for is including unbalanced material in the biography of a living person.  Obviously balance is a delicate question.  Please take a look at what the best business press says about Prechter .  Do you really think that some of this material should not be included?  Please also note that the Wall Street Journal article that says that his record of predictions has become the butt of inside jokes, is not the statement of a pundit.  It is a statement of fact in a news story by the most reliable source of business news.
The proposed decision to me looks very unbalanced.  The only punishment goes against me, even though Folsom has reverted everything that I've ever included on Socionomics, and Prechter and he has an obvious conflict of interest.
I'll propose that - if 4 arbitrators cannot decide whether or not it is proper for me to include documented facts from the best sources in the business press - then any punishments meted out should apply equally to both Folsom and myself.
Sincerely,
Smallbones 07:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Smallbones I reviewed the case and voted as the 4th Arbitrator. I remember looking at the case back before I was an Arb and acting as ArbCom Clerk, so the case is not completely new to me. I agree with the thinking of the other Arbs in the case. Take care, FloNight 14:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Close Question"
Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Yoshiaki Omura/Proposed decision

message: I'm a tad worried about the Reversion without limit remedy, as this could lead to wide interpretation and only bring more edit warring. It essentially says that one party is correct in their view and that if anyone does anything against that view, they can revert without limit. Cowman109Talk 21:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have no ability to stop banned users from editing an article except blocking and reverting their edits. Often a small group of editors and admins that are familiar with the situation need to do this and may look like an edit war. Sometimes they may be reported for 3RR and blocked by an administrator not familiar with the situation. Hopefuly this will stop that problem. --FloNight 01:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion without limit 

message: Can someone please clarify ASAP if this is nearing the end of the process (and that no further Evidence is being considered beyond what has been to date and no further remedies are to be proposed etc)? I ask because some futher pertinent information about the parties involved is possibly forthcoming and I would like to know how much time there is left to present this.Richardmalter 04:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally speaking, when a case goes to voting on proposed decisions, the evidence phase is more or less over.  Arbitrators will consider additional evidence, and will sometimes offer additional or counter proposals.  If you intend to offer additional proposals for voting (findings of fact and remedies), use the workshop page, but you may wish to call the arbitrators attention to it with a short, polite note on their talk pages, or by sending an e-mail to Arbcom-L at wikipedia dot org. Thatcher131 04:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  end of Arbitration?
Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Deltabeignet/Proposed decision

message: Is this the right place to ask questions about the project page? I have two questions regarding Dmcdevit's comment and vote:
;Re comment: I don't doubt that he agreed; once the sockpuppet was discovered, it was of no use for him anyway. But where and when did he actually agree? Was that after I proposed an easier solution on his talk page? 
;Re vote:  Is Dmcdevit saying that because Deltabeignet agreed with a pointless measure, the whole case should be closed, or am I misunderstanding something? — Sebastian 05:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked at a sample of the IP edits in question, and in my own personal opinion they are not intentionally disruptive, and are mostly content changes that I myself agree with.  There seem to be a very small number of edits in which Deltabeignet supported the IP with admin rollback, and there seem to be no instances of more serious abuse of admin tools (blocking or deleting or threatening to do so).  Letting the matter die with a promise not to do it again seems more than sufficient. Deltabeignet has agreed to cease his experiment and has agreed to a "soft block" of his IP address to enforce it.  The other remedies would be an official warning (which is a lot of heat and noise that doesn't do any more than the current agreement), or editing restrictions (blocks, bans, de-sysopping), which would seem to be vast overkill in this case.   Thatcher131 12:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Thatcher131's summary of the situation. It will be important to give Deltabeignet the time and space to show that they are an editor/admin in good standing. Over scrutiny needs to be avoided. FloNight 14:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for both your replies. I agree that (thanks to Newyorkbrad's investigation!) the suspicion of more serious abuse of admin tools is dropped. I disagree, however, with the assessment of remedies. The "agreement" is no remedy, as I pointed out above. There are not just these two alternatives; please don't discount the remedy I proposed yesterday (#3), which is not punitive, and cleans up the case neatly. — Sebastian 22:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions
Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Midnight Syndicate/Proposed decision

message: Proposed principles references "WP:COI, WP:VANITY, [and others]". COI and VAIN/VANITY are the same thing, the latter of which redirects to the former. 68.39.174.238 19:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. I fixed it, thanks. Thatcher131 20:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor correction:
Talk:Kaapse Klopse

message: the term "coon" is not used anymore. the word minstrel should rather be used in the title.
:Citing some evidence would be nice. What do the participants themselves call it? Roger 19:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Compare , , . Looks like all three are currently used in South Africa.16:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I went to Alex van Heerden's memorial yesterday - there were minstrels from Wellington there. Their 'captain' was quite clear they were 'coons'. Wizzy…☎ 11:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "coon"

message: I was working on the Blackface article and discovered that there is a book called Coon Carnival: New Year in Cape Town : Past to Present by Denis Martin (New Africa Books, 1999, ). Presumably much of this article could be cited from that, and also I'm sure the article could be greatly expanded from that, id anyone has access to a copy and is so inclined. Much of the book seems to be online at Google Books, possibly enough to cite for significant portions of this article. - Jmabel | Talk 07:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Book, should probably be used

message: "The Group Areas Act of 1966 declared District Six a whites only area resulting in millions of ‘non-whites’ being evicted and scattered around the Cape Peninsula" seems a little odd.  The conventional figure for those moved from District Six is about 60,000, and it would have been physically impossible for a million people to have lived there.  The word "scattered" may also not work, as the Group Areas Act actually tried to move non-white Capetonians into specific parts of the Cape Flats rather than allowing them to live across the peninsula. --Rumping (talk) 18:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, and this was contradicted in the paragraph below. I've merged the two paragraphs, using the correct figures. Greenman (talk) 20:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Millions scattered?
Talk:Ajit Shetty

message: Article created to provide additional information on Belgium (and India). Pvosta 15:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Melk Abbey

message: The lead photo of this article was changed a few days ago from a very good, if not perfect, oblique view of the abbey (:File:Stift Melk, Westansicht.jpg) to a technically spectacular frontal view (:File:Stift Melk Westseite 01.jpg). I admire the latter as a photograph, and would cheerfully support it as a featured picture on the Commons, but I think it is poorly suited to be the lead image in an encyclopedia article like this one, because a straight frontal view of the facade alone gives no indication of the shape and size of the building behind it. I have consequently restored the oblique view as the lead image. It is not ideal, and some of the weaknesses (especially the partial obstruction of the subject by the roofs in the lower right foreground) have been brought up in the discussion of the nomination of the photo for Featured Picture status (Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Melk_Abbey). Other photos of the abbey in the Commons show that it's possible to get an informative oblique view that is not obstructed by these roofs (e.g., :File:Melk - Stift (2).JPG), and ideally I'd like to see a photo like that one, but with a greater resolution and sharpness, as the lead in this article. But if the choice is between a slightly flawed oblique view and a spectacular frontal view, I think the the oblique view is better for the purposes of an encyclopedia. Others may feel differently (pinging ), and if there is a consensus in favor of the megapixels, I will acquiesce peacefully. Cheers, Choliamb (talk) 16:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead photo: frontal or oblique?
Talk:United National Congress

message: The article ought to discuss the platform (promises) of the party, as well as its policies once it gained power in government, and who are its main supporters. This is very important information that should be included in an encyclopedia article. -Pgan002 (talk) 13:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platform, policies, constituency 

message: Party headquarters has moved yet again.
*UNC moves headquarters again 2022-12-31, Newsday.cott
CaribDigita (talk) 08:19, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  2022 Party HQ move
Talk:Belfry of Bruges

message: I cannot see any relevance in citing an American children's book from 1896. (Dunton, Larkin (1896). The World and Its People. Silver, Burdett and Braydon. p. 161.) Valetude (talk) 12:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: ... the clockwork mechanism that plays the carillon? 220.240.65.150 (talk) 06:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the 'music box'...?
Talk:Sir Solomon Hochoy Highway

message: This page needs to be Expanded to show more information about the highway 2803:1500:1203:DEF8:DE91:BFFF:FE74:E92 (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expandation of page
Talk:List of steelbands

message: Please do not provide direct external links to steelbands inside this Wikipedia article, as this classes as promotional advertising (that's what Google is for!)
If there is a Wikipedia article associated with the steelband, please link the band to that article instead.
Also, if you need to add a steelband to the list, please conform to the layout of the page, especially those lists in alphabetical order.
Thank you!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.36.77 (talk) 22:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of External Links
Talk:Tunapuna–Piarco

message: This street has not been cleaned by the Regional Corporation since the General Election and the councillor cannot be seen around the area. The streets all around are well taken off and the residents are the ones to cut the grass or clean the road and drains. There is another concern with the residents letting their dogs out to do their numbers on the road and they will also burst the garbage bags and make a mess- the garbage truck passes at around 4.30- 5.00 am.
Because of the numerous young persons walking the street I am asking for two humps to be placed on the street so as to curb the speed at which some of us drive. Can there be some police patrol in this area so as to curtail the smoking of illegal drugs and the reduction of strangers in this 'quiet area'?
 
There is another issue of the 'Toilet Tank' which is located at the corner of Huggins and Gittens Streets which is non functional and the whole area STINKS on a daily basis and no one seems to care; kindly do something??
We will like the Chairperson to use her office to assist us in this regard as we are in dire need for help.
regards,
the citizens
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.31.21 (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjam Street 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Regional corporations and municipalities of Trinidad and Tobago#ndash vs hyphen in article titles.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[Talk:Regional corporations and municipalities of Trinidad and Tobago#ndash vs hyphen in article titles]]
Talk:Black Power Revolution

message: — Assignment last updated by DarthVetter (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Composition I - Writing Wikipedia

message: I added an influence section to touch on their progress since the revolution, and a few inline citations leading to my sources. I revised the leading section a bit and added wikilinks to those missing. I tried to improve the article by adding citations leading to credible sources and rewording paragraphs to get a better understanding out of readers.
Rwaddell22 (talk) 14:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edits
Talk:Antwerp City Hall

message: The Stadhuis is inscribed on UNESCO's World Heritage List along with the belfries of Belgium and France.
:This statement in the lede is not represented in the article. The word 'inscribed' reads oddly, though it is replicated in the website of the belfries of Belgium and France, possibly translated from French or Flemish. The issue needs elucidating in the article, and probably not in the lede. Valetude (talk) 00:35, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange wording
Talk:People's National Movement

message: The whole article consists on electoral events, dates, people in power, triumphs, defeats, controversies, criticisms, etc. But there is no treatment about the party's doctrine or philosophical grounds (if indeed thay exist): is it right-wing, left-wing, centrist, or what? What are its accomplishments? Its failures? What are its links with other parties / governments in the region? One gets the feeling that the PNM party might as well be completely detached from its own country and the surrounding region: as it is, this article could just the same refer to a political party in another planet. --AVM 15:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nothing is said about the party's philosophy, postulates, doctrine, etc. 

message: Rather than edit warring over the PNM's position, we need to stick to what reliable third party sources say. The sources I can access say "centre-left". (I can't access all of them though.) While these aren't in-depth analyses, at least they're third-party sources. I don't think we can use the quote from Rowley - a politician's claims made on the campaign trail is pretty much the definition of a self-serving claim. Guettarda (talk) 02:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political position 

message: A red color, which is the same color as in the party's emblem, is used in the tables towards the bottom of the article. This looks like "branding" of the party's official colors into this Wikipedia article. Is this practice appropriate on Wikipedia? --Lourde Mage (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think so. There's yellow for the UNC. Guettarda (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  color red present in the tables
Talk:Jamaat al Muslimeen coup attempt

message: What were Jamaat al Muslimeen planning to do? Did they intend to turn Trinidad and Tobago into a muslim state?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.172.239 (talk) 08:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the politics of their leader... yes.65.209.62.115 (talk) 11:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What were there goals? 

message: It is probably the case that "A state of emergency was declared by acting president Emmanuel Carter", however was it true that "martial law was imposed"? That would be a quite different matter, and as far as I know the law of Trinidad did not allow for "martial law".203.80.61.102 (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martial law? 

message: Journalist Sir Trevor MacDonald in his book 'An improbable life' - page 26 reports that US 'security operatives' quietly landed in Trinidad and were of assistance, including offering to 'take out' the hostage-takers, but they surrendered before such a decision needed to be taken.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.6.92 (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIA/Special Forces involvement
Talk:National Union of Freedom Fighters

message: 2A00, mind explaining why adding Internet Archive in an archive.org citation clutters the references section? I don't see that— the references look just neat— and it is rightfully placed as the citation links to archive.org, aka Internet Archive. It's not the original publisher, that's why I put it in the via parameter. GeraldWL 15:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a publisher at all. The template documentatin says "". It's not in a different format, the url makes to deliverer clear, there's a URL and an ISBN available. It's not needed at all, it's just a courtesy link for readers to access the material if they want to. 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:A514:75C1:53AC:5581 (talk) 16:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying "publisher" in a literal term, like a website. Content deliverer basically. The documentation you quoted stressed "may", which means it just hints at an instance when via can be used. Before your quotation, it stated, "via is not a replacement for publisher, but provides additional detail." I think IA qualifies this. Take the example of Template:Cite journal, where Project MUSE is used as an example, despite there being a URL. GeraldWL 17:01, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Journals are different from books. All IA does is provide an image of the exact same book you would get in a library. It doesn't help readers understand the subject knowing the book is "via" anything. The important points are the bibliographic details of which book/which edition. The link to an online version is a courtesy to make readers' lives easier if they want to check up on it. If anything, the lack of a "via" field is a benefit to readers to declutter the citation. 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:A514:75C1:53AC:5581 (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet Archive
Talk:Twelve Grapes

message: Anuradha paudaval 2405:204:A1:D200:0:0:276C:A0AC (talk) 10:39, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maruti sotra 

message: Is it true about the grape farmers spreading the tradition to sell more grapes? There is no source linked. 72.48.250.145 (talk) 18:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grape growers
Category talk:People from Kraków

message: Why does the text here limit it to "born in"; that isn't the standard in other "people from" categories.  Gene Nygaard 16:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Born in?

message: Christian Monk faustina kowalska should be listed somewhere.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.238.173.58 (talk) 20:51, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monk
Talk:List of festivals in Louisiana

message: This article has too many redlinks. i will at some point trim out nonnotable festivals. ive already done some format cleanup. i have nothing against LA festivals, but this is an encyclopedia article, not a webhosting service for the LA chamber of commerce. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  format problems 

message: I'm not sure how to add a festival to the list of festivals but 
-The List Of Louisiana Festivals-
is missing 
The Louisiana Creole Tomato Festival
Which is being held on 
June 8-June 9,2024
In New Orleans
In the French Market
And will be the 
38th Annual Creole Tomato Festival NOLAWhoDat (talk) 12:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm trying to add a festival to list of Louisiana festivals: Louisiana Creole Tomato Festival
Talk:Closure by stealth

message: At no point does the article by Whitelegg (cited in the first paragraph) support the sentence that it is supposed to be referencing.  It states (pp. 58-59) that such tracks as the Settle-Carlisle line are already uneconomical (i.e. they lose British Rail money), and then says that that's the reason the line is closed by stealth!  That is, it says the opposite of what it is asserted it says. Bastin 12:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Whitelegg reference
Talk:List of people from Louisiana

message: What exactly, in the context of this page, does it mean to be "from" Louisiana? For example, Kate Chopin was not born in Louisiana. She did not die in Louisiana. She did not spend the majority of her life in Louisiana. She followed a man to Louisiana and spent 14 years there writing some of the most awkward and weak prose ever set to paper. If not for the efforts of Emily Tothe, and other like-minded cultural studies folk who need something preachy to write their dissertations about, Chopin's "writing" would have remained forgotten. 
The biggest connection Chopin has to the state is that she exploited Louisiana for her fame. Is that what it means to be "from" Louisiana? I think the folks up in Missouri hold a claim on her legacy, and I say "let them have her." I did not attempt to edit her name from the list. I'm obviously too biased to make that decision objectively. But seriously, what is the criteria used for claiming someone is "from" a place, and how does that criteria fit Chopin and Louisiana? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.229.157.143 (talk) 20:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "from" LA?
Talk:Lois W.

message: This page seems more like a hit piece on AA than anything else.  Bill Wilson's affairs have nothing to do with Mrs. Wilson's personality or her public affairs.  I believe this piece should be made MUCH more NPOV.  Although I'm no friend of AA (I'm a Rational Recovery fan) I do believe in the NPOV policy and this article contradicts it.  Jamehec 16:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It easy to launch challenges without specifics, but no one is obliged to respond since we know not what is objected to, except in the vaguest terms. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 01:21, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Mrs. Wilson herself talks about these things in several of her books. =//= Johnny Squeaky 19:41, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: POV