Talk:Ahura Mazda

message: Ahura Mazda is referenced heavily in some of the Wishmaster movies... should there be a paragraph on this? --Ifrit 09:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you link me to "wishmaster movies"? Is it Wishmaster (film)? Sure we can have a part about it under popular media section or something --K a s h  Talk | email 10:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yes the Wishmaster films feature Ahura Mazda running around granting wishes and causing a ruckus. DigitizerSF (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wishmaster movies 

message: :I doubt that name is Indo-European origin. Although I don't believe in connection between Indians & Europeans(anthropologically).
:Well, I heard Buryat shamanistic(probabily Tengriistic origin)  prayer on New Lunar Year celebration(Sagalgaan). It starts & ends by this verse: Xaan Hormasta(Aramazd?) huhe nomyn tenger manai.
:I also think that Zarathushtra have anciet Altaic or Proto-Turkic origin. He was born in Central Asia & only Altaic people live there & ever lived.
:I know that some of you'll claim that Indo-European people emmigrated from Centra Asia to Europe & India, and I respect your opinion. But I'm find such version very strange, because if it's really so, then where did Kipchaks(Turkic) came from?
:P.S: I also know that ancient Turkic people were monotheists(tengriists) & called God with different names: Tenger (Tanri, Tengri, Tener) Alla (this name means - the One who gives & takes, from turkic word 'al' - take) Gozbodi (I doubt about correctnes of this, origin for russian word Gospodi(The Lord))
:--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.204.190.187 (talk • contribs).
::The name 'Ahura Mazda' is not of Indo-European origin, and the article does not presume to say so. As for the name appearing in Buryat recitation... 
::the name "Hormasta (Aramazd?)" could derive from pre-Zoroastrian times, and/or ...
::Zoroastrian influence (or even Zoroastrian derivation) is also quite possible. After all, Zoroastrianism was once the predominant religion throughout the Greater Iranian world, and its quite possible that ritual invocations have survived to the present day even if they have little (if any) relationship to Zoroastrianism any more. 
::-- Fullstop 05:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is Name's origin? 

message: I've erased this section partly because polluting articles with encyclopedic knowledge of comic books, Wonder Woman and other fiction is not encyclopedic, and partly because it was embarassing and irrelevant. Wikipedia administrators should reconsider permitting users to start headings in articles titled "In Popular Culture" and take a stand against this stupid fad.
Scary Monster
:I have suggested this be moved to Zoroastrianism in popular culture, in line with other cultural depictions of deities. 212.179.71.70 (talk) 10:22, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture 

message: Is Ahura Mazda the same as the Abrahamic God, or is there no way to determine this?--The4sword 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Is it necessary for the opening paragraph to suggest that Ahura Mazda is the same deity as Yahweh?  If there is a parallel between the two then shouldn't this be drawn under an appropriate subheading? 193.132.145.152 (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you assume that the word "God" is a synonm of Yahweh? -- Fullstop (talk) 15:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Historical lineage and mythological structure do suggest that the Abrahamic 'diety' did evolve from this God, which itself almost certianly evolved from the Sethian religion's Demiurge (in which it was part of a greater pantheon, but was hidden in a cloud with a throne shortly after birth, and thus, belived itself to be the only god in existance, with no superiors), seeing as the mythology and personality of the diety remains consistent. Iconography of the diety also has a flow to it: a lion-headed diety (which, in turn, created 'archeons/angels' with similar physiology--- say, a lion, an eagle, a man, and a bull, ahem) depicted in a ring-like halo, to the Old Man In the Ring that is this god, to the Old Man With Halo of the Abrahamic god.--Xavier Orona (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Hence God'? 

message: dear Warrior. I think the variety of names in Parthian, Armenian, Georgian and new Persian deserve a place in the article. Ahura Mazda was an integral part of their belief system (which may or may not be considered Orthodox Zoroastrian). There these local names sound too different than the original Avestan name they definitly deserve to be mentioned. I know why Xashaiar opposes them. He only likes Persian and looks down on everything non Persian and non-Tehrani.You see this too in the Nowruz article. He reacts allergical to the flags of Turkic speaking countries (which are culturally Iranian nay way). But why do YOU oppose them?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't. The names are put in the first sentence of the lead in brackets, where they have a much better chance of being seen. -- warrior4321  21:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They do nor refer to certain languages and according alphabet. I want to let see how vast was bthe realm that worshipped Ahura Mazda. Moreover I think it is an answer who try to deny and neglact the zoroastrian legacy of these nations and cultures. If you do not like it in the lead, then find another place for them, but they definitely deserve a place. In any case they are more relevant than all those irrelevant sanskrit terms, put in the zoroastrian terms by our Indianized  Zoroastrian lost cousins. The danger is to orientalize the Iranic topics. Iranic topics should preserve their Iranic identity.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We are not here to promote "Iranian topics". The deniance of Zoroastrian legacy in these nations is to reason to ruin an article. That paragraph is clunky and hard to read. The other names that Ahura Mazda was called by is in the lead, there is no need to have a seperate paragraph on it. Are the Sanskrit terms that you refer to in the perceived origin paragraph? -- warrior4321  22:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Am I ruining this article or am I improving it? Those names were there for a long time and you removed them. The choice is yours. Whether you include thopse names or I will remove those Sanskrit terms. That will be fair.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 04:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  variety of names 

message: Under "In other religions" the first sentence reads:
In Manichaeism, the name Ohrmazd Bay ("god Ahura Mazda") was used for the primal figure Nāšā Qaḏmāyā, the "original man" and emanation of the Father of Greatness (in Manicheism called Zurvan) through whom after he sacrificed himself to defend the world of light was consumed by the forces of darkness.
Should there be an "it" and a comma after "defend" or what? I'm not familiar with the doctrine, and I don't want to misrepresent it, but the sentence as presented is mis-structured. For a moment I thought just deleting "through" would do it, but it doesn't! GeorgeTSLC (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing non-sentence

message: I had to correct the translation of bâtgarjâi because the page had it as "doer of bad everywhere." Ahura Mazda doesn't do bad, anywhere, ever. It translates to "who creates air in all places."  I don't know how to edit the reference page. Can someone please add this reference? http://persiandna.com/101names.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5CC:4501:CFC8:B18A:38CC:F391:2DD5 (talk) 19:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation Correction

message: The investiture of Ardashir I and Bahram II and other is Anahita and Amesh Spenta Asha no Ahura Mazda--Yolycool (talk) 06:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: image is not correct

message: 1.It is revealed by a passage of the Avesta that Zartosht, seated before Ohrmazd, always wanted information (vac) from him; and he spoke to Ohrmazd thus: 'Thy head, hands, feet, hair, face, and tongue are in my eyes just like those even which are my own, and you have the clothing men have; give me a hand, so that I may grasp thy hand.' 
2.Ohrmazd said thus: 'I am an intangible spirit; it is not possible to grasp my hand.' 
3.Zartosht spoke thus: 'Thou art intangible, and Vohuman, Ardwahisht, Shahrewar, Spandarmad, Hordad, and Amurdad are intangible, and when I depart from thy presence, and do not see thee nor even them -- since of the person whom I see and worship there is something -- should thou and the seven archangels be worshipped by me, or not?' 
by Shayest Na-Shayest Chapter 15.
http://www.avesta.org/mp/shayest.html#chap15 --Yolycool (talk) 06:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The intangible nature of Ahura Mazda 

message: Numerous scholars have proposed a connection between Ahura Mazda and Varuna, the Hindu god of water.  One piece of evidence supporting this theory is the fact that both deities are paired up with the god Mithra.
From Part 1 of the Mihir Yast of the Zend Avesta:
1. Ahura Mazda spake unto Spitama Zarathustra, saying: 'Verily, when I created Mithra, the lord of
wide pastures, O Spitama! I created him as worthy of sacrifice, as worthy of prayer as myself, Ahura Mazda
From Part 7 of the Zamyad Yast:
35. The first time when the Glory departed from the bright Yima, the Glory went from Yima, the son of Vîvanghant, in the shape of a Vâraghna bird.
Then Mithra seized that Glory, Mithra, the lord of wide pastures, whose ear is quick to hear, who has a thousand senses. We sacrifice unto Mithra, the lord of all countries, whom Ahura Mazda has created the most glorious of all the gods in the heavens.
From the Khoresed Nyayis of the Zend Avesta:
7. We sacrifice unto Mithra, the lord of all countries, whom Ahura Mazda made the most glorious of all the gods in the world unseen.
So may Mithra and Ahura, the two great gods, come to us for help!
We sacrifice unto the bright, undying, shining, swift-horsed Sun.
From the Mihir Nyayis:
7. We sacrifice unto Mithra, the lord of all countries, whom Ahura Mazda made the most glorious of all the heavenly gods.
So may Mithra and Ahura, the two great gods, come to us for help!
We sacrifice unto the undying, shining, swift-horsed Sun.
12. We sacrifice unto Mithra and Ahura, the two great, imperishable, holy gods; and unto the stars, and the moon, and the sun, with the trees that yield baresma. We sacrifice unto Mithra, the lord of all countries.
From Yasna 1 of the Zend Avesta:
11. And I announce and complete (my Yasna) to the two, to Ahura and to Mithra, the lofty, and the everlasting, and the holy, and to all the stars which are Spenta Mainyu's creatures, and to the star Tistrya, the resplendent and glorious, and to the Moon which contains the seed of the Kine, and to the resplendent Sun, him of the rapid steeds, the eye of Ahura Mazda, and to Mithra the province-ruler. And I celebrate and complete my Yasna to Ahura Mazda (once again, and as to him who rules the month), the radiant, the glorious, and to the Fravashis of the saints.
From Yasna 2:
11. And in this Zaothra with this Baresman I desire to approach Ahura and Mithra with my praise, the lofty, eternal, and the holy two; and I desire to approach the stars, moon, and sun with the Baresman plants, and with my praise, and with them Mithra the governor of all the provinces, and Ahura Mazda the radiant and glorious, and the good, heroic, bountiful Fravashis of the saints,
From Yasna 3:
13. And I desire to approach Ahura and Mithra, the lofty and imperishable two, the holy, and with the Yast of those stars which are the creatures of Spenta Mainyu, and with the Yast of the star Tistrya, the radiant, the glorious, and with that of the moon which contains the seed of cattle, and with that of the resplendent sun, the eye of Ahura Mazda, and of Mithra, province-lord of the provinces, and with that of Ahura Mazda (as He rules this day) the radiant, the glorious, and with that of the Fravashis of the saints, (who rule this month),
From Yasna 4:
16. And these we announce and we present to Ahura and to Mithra, the lofty, and imperishable, and holy two, to the stars, the creatures of Spenta Mainyu, and to the star Tistrya, the radiant, the glorious, and to the Moon which contains the seed of cattle, and to the resplendent Sun, of the swift horses, Ahura Mazda's eye, and to Mithra, the lord of provinces, for their sacrifice, homage, their propitiation and their praise; yea, these we present hereby to Ahura Mazda (as he rules this day) and to the Fravashis of the saints (as they rule this month), for their sacrifice, homage, their propitiation and their praise.
From Yasna 6:
10. And we worship Ahura and Mithra with our sacrifice, the lofty, and imperishable, and holy two, and the stars, moon, and sun, among the plants of the Baresman, and Mithra, the province-lord of all the provinces, even Ahura Mazda, the radiant, the glorious, and the good, valiant, and bountiful Fravashis of the saints.
From  Yasna 7:
13. And I offer with a complete and sacred offering to Ahura and Mithra, the lofty and imperishable, and holy two, and to the stars which are the creatures of Spenta Mainyu, and to the star Tistrya, the radiant, the glorious, and to the Moon which contains the seed of cattle in its beams, and to the resplendent Sun of the fleet horses, the eye of Ahura Mazda, and to Mithra, the lord of the provinces. And I offer with a complete and sacred offering to Ahura Mazda, the resplendent, the glorious, (who rules this day), and to the Fravashis of the saints (who name the month).
From Yasna 68:
22. Praise (be) to Ahura Mazda, and to the Bountiful Immortals. Praise (be) to Mithra of the wide pastures. Praise to the fleet-horsed sun. Praise to (the star which so we name, and with this sun) Ahura Mazda's eyes.
Note that in the Yasnas, the Sun is referred to as "the eye of Ahura Mazda".  This is similar to the Hindu Vedas, where Surya is referred to as "the eye of Mitra-Varuna".
From Book 1, Hymn 115 of the Rig Veda (Hymn to Surya):
1. THE brilliant presence of the Gods hath risen, the eye of Mitra, Varuṇa and Agni.
The soul of all that moveth not or moveth, the Sun hath filled the air and earth and heaven.
From Book 6, Hymn 51 of the Rig Veda:
1. THAT mighty eye of Varuṇa and Mitra, infallible and dear, is moving upward.
The pure and lovely face of holy Order hath shone like gold of heaven in its arising.
From Book 7, Hymn 63 of the Rig Veda:
1. COMMON to all mankind, auspicious Sūrya, he who beholdeth all, is mounting upward;
The God, the eye of Varuṇa and Mitra, who rolled up darkness like a piece of leather.
From Book 10, Hymn 37 of the Rig Veda:
1. Do homage unto Varuṇa's and Mitra's Eye: offer this solemn worship to the Mighty God,
Who seeth far away, the Ensign, born of Gods. Sing praises unto Sūrya, to the Son of Dyaus.
From Book 4, Verse 35 of the White Yajur Veda:
Do homage unto Varuna's and Mitra's eye: offer this solemn
worship to the Mighty God,
Who seeth far away, the Ensign born of Gods. Sing praises
unto Sûrya, to the Son of Dyaus.
From Book 7, Verse 42 of the White Yajur Veda:
The brilliant presence of the Gods hath risen, the eye of
Mitra, Varuna, and Agni.
Soul of all moving, soul of all that moves not, the Sun
hath filled the air and earth and heaven.
From Book 13, Verse 46 of the White Yajur Veda:
The brilliant presence of the Gods hath risen, the eye of
Mitra, Varuna, and Agni.
The soul of all that moveth not or moveth, the Sun hath
filled the air, and earth and heaven.
From Book 13, Hymn 2 of the Atharva Veda:
35. He hath gone up on high, the Gods' bright presence, the eye of
  Mitra, Varuna and Agni.
  The soul of all that moveth not or moveth, Sūrya hath filled the
   earth and air and heaven,
From Book 20, Hymn 107 of the Atharva Veda:
14. The brilliant Presence of the Gods hath risen, the eye of Mitra,
  Varuna, and Agni.
  The soul of all that moveth not or moveth, Sūrya hath filled the
   earth and air and heaven.
Hokie Tech (talk) 15:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindu God Varuna 

message: In Sri Caitanya Caritamrita adi lila, chapter 17 verse 166 Caitanya Mahaprabhu confirms: 
go-ange yata loma tata sahasra vatsara
go-vadhi raurava-madhye pace nirantar
Cow killers and cow eaters are condemned to rot in hell for as many thousands of years as there are for each hair on the body of every cow they eat from.
‘chaitanya-mangala’ shune yadi pashandi, yavana
seha maha-vaishnava haya tatakshana
If even a great atheist hears Shri Chaitanya-mangala (previous name for Shri Chaitanya-bhagavata), he immediately becomes a great devotee.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.94.134.107 (talk) 11:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   Shri Chaitanya-mangala  

message: The article currently states:
:Beginning from Darius' reign until Artaxerxes II, Ahura Mazda is invoked alone.
However, an inscription from Xerces at Van Fortress mentions "other gods". 108.87.97.66 (talk) 13:25, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Inscription from Xerces the Great referening other gods

message: I would like to know what an Ahura Mazda surge is. Tom Wolfe references it in "The Right Stuff" in the context of watching a rocket launch, and I googled up a further reference that has the same context, but that's it. --Nat (talk) 11:48, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ahura Mazda surge" 

message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owk2vTO1_QM
black metal band rotting christ has a song  Ahura Mazda-Azra Mainiuu  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.74.15 (talk) 18:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

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message: Hello again,  please take a look at MOS:FORLANG. The fact that all of these extra languages are dead ones means their relevance to the lead is even more questionable, in addition to raising the question of sourcing.
I am also not sure why you object to the restoration of "before ultimately being relegated to small minorities"; it's not the most beautiful writing I have seen, but it is germane and has been there for some time. -165.234.252.11 (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi IP user from Bismarck, North Dakota, if your edit is endorsed by the community then it's fine for me. Bests.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 20:07, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "rv, unhelpful edits" 

message: The following sentence is currently in the Intro, and I doubt it means what the author thought it meant:
"Ahura Mazda first appeared in the Achaemenid period (c. 550 – 330 BCE) under Darius I's Behistun Inscription."
Seriously? Ahura Mazda appeared under the inscription? ...and we some how know it was his first appearance, how? Did someone call his agent?
I would rewrite it but I'm not positive what the author was trying to say. Possibly it is the oldest surviving mention of him, but, as it is, it needs to be rewritten.
J.Stornoway (talk) 16:45, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This should be rewritten: 

message: Aren't the sources reliable? :  43.245.121.236 (talk) 02:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ahura Mazda is Asura Mahat 

message: Currently, this is the name as shown in the info box, and also in the lede.  
:Ahura Mazda (/əˌhʊərə ˈmæzdə/;[1] Avestan: 𐬨𐬀𐬰𐬛𐬁 𐬀𐬵𐬎𐬭𐬀, romanized: Ahura Mazdā; Persian: اهورا مزدا, romanized: Ahurā Mazdā)
It is supposed to be Avestan script, according to the edit notes, but is still rendered as:  𐬨𐬀𐬰𐬛𐬁 𐬀𐬵𐬎𐬭𐬀
I can not find an actual Unicode font that uses these codes. Can someone find a graphic that is equivalent to whatever this font is supposed to render?  Otherwise, I suggest we remove it.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry for my bad usage of language in your edit source. Vyommehta786 (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name rendered in Avestan script