Talk:Eat Me, Drink Me

message: In the current issue of Revolver Magazine, it states that MM is looking for a new guitarist. Any word on who that guy is yet?
:NopeGoldenglove 08:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Marilyn Manson and Tim Skold did the entire album by themselves. Skold is playing guitar on the tour and Rob Holliday is playing bass. Street walker 08:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: They did do the entire album themselves. Manson performed vocals and drums, Skold performed guitar, bass and keyboard. The short writing process had occurred while the other members of the band weren't available, and it simply wasn't worth the wait, as the majority of the tracks were recorded on the spot and in some instances, during the first takes. R-Tiztik 00:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Guitarist? 

message: Why would "This is Halloween" be on the promotional version? I can't recall any Manson album where a cover appeared on the promo version. The article should say that the track appearing on the standard version is improbable (but possibly on international versions), instead of the track appearing on the promotional version is probable. The latter is mere speculation whereas covers have actually been released on international versions of previous albums. If both claims haven't been exactly proven, then the details next to the track name might as well include the claim that's slightly more backed up. R-Tiztik 03:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "This is Halloween" 

message: So now here's another conflict. "Putting Holes in Happiness" was mentioned twice in Rolling Stone as the album's first single. Manson has also been filming a short film (like Doppelherz was). So now "When the Heart Guides the Hand" comes up on a french site saying it's the first single even though "Putting Holes in Happiness" was already confirmed twice. I know nothing's solid when the album won't be out for 2 months but I mean, this was confirmed from interviews. "When the Heart Guides the Hand" is said to be filmed but there's no confirmation whether or not it will be on the album, unlike every other track in the Confirmed Working Titles which were confirmed as being on the album. I'm removing it from the Confirmed section, (especially seeing as whoever added it to Confirmed didn't have the courtesy to remove it from the Possible inclusions section). R-Tiztik 14:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added info that When the Heart Guides the Hand will possibly the album's first single. Goldenglove 17:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The publisher of this particular post (Nixon) believed the song was actually called "Heart-Shaped Glasses", but added that she wasn't completely sure — she also mentioned that "You know how Manson is. The title is never as simple as the refrain," which could hint that "heart-shaped glasses" are part of the lyrics. It's not worth mentioning in the Eat Me, Drink Me article as of yet seeing how it's merely speculation. She also mentioned Evan Rachel Wood as Manson's "new girlfriend", but this might just be due to the multiple projects he and her are involved in ("When the Heart Guides the Hand", "Phantasmagoria", etc.), and seeing as how Manson has recently had his divorce and subsequent depression, this statement is entirely speculation and probably not worth considering. Probably. R-Tiztik 20:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found this on The Heirophant...it's replacing "When the Heart Guides the Hand"
Universal Music France has reported that the first single from Manson's new album "Eat Me, Drink Me" will be "Heart Shaped Glasses" (previously titled "When the Heart Guides the Hand") which we can expect to hear around mid April. Manson has also made a 3D video for "Heart Shaped Glasses" which is an extract from a 3D horror movie which Manson will continue filming at the beginning of 2008 with James Cameron.
The official release date in France for "Eat Me, Drink Me" will be Monday 4th June. There will be two editions available with one being a special collector’s edition.
http://www.mansonusa.com/php-bin/news/fullnews.php?id=425
(MarilynFireDown 04:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: This title was what one of the SuicideGirls thought it to be as well, according to this article, more information about this above in the "When the Heart Guides the Hand" section. And on another note I can;t wait for the Collector's Edition hehehe. R-Tiztik 04:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Heart Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)" 

message: A few links unveiling new song titles:
http://www.mansonnew.info/album08.php (in French) 
http://www.mansonusa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46726 - The Heirophant thread
:Seems there is a mistake concerning the name "I'm not your vampire" ('cos the description fits "If I was your Vampire").
:Goldenglove 13:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New songs unveiled 

message: Here it is: http://www.mansonusa.com/php-bin/news/fullnews.php?id=426 Goldenglove 16:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add though, They Say That Hell Is Not Hot is actually entitled They Said That Hell's Not Hot. Though RS doesn't agree with this (because they lifted their news from Blabbermouth who recieved the news from The Heirophant anyway) it has been revised into the tracklisting on The Heirophant.
Well, you can just add a note about how there's conflicting data.  Either could be the title, and we really can't just arbitrarily choose one 72.196.197.19 01:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Marilyn Manson's website has (finally) updated with the tracklisting so that could be cited as the source as opposed to the Heirophant or Rolling Stone. Iconoclast322 00:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Track Listing 

message: 70:01 - source?
:The total time of the leak is 52:22, so the retail version will either be approximately that same time, or not too far off. R-Tiztik 23:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length 

message: Where did the 'putting holes in happiness' being the album's first single come from? John R S 23:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Manson wrote the album's first single, "Putting Holes In Happiness," oh his birthday, and describes it as "a romantic-misogynistic-cannibal-gothic-vampire ballad." from this article. R-Tiztik 00:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It's no problem haha R-Tiztik 17:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Has it been released in full yet, or just the clip? 72.196.197.19 00:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

text: According to the article for the song, it was already played on April 10th in France...? John R S 00:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

text: this is the full song. it was released on a french radio station, some fan probably made this "video"(MarilynFireDown 00:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Single 

message: So far 2 covers are rumoured to have been recorded during the album sessions (which is entirely believable considering Manson has tons of covers recorded during album sessions in his back-catalogue; besides the point though):
* "Gloomy Sunday" by Rezső Seress; or
* "One Rode to Asa Bay" by Bathory
Can anyone source either of the two?? R-Tiztik 00:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are completely unsourced. Manson has never put a cover on one of his studio albums and there was no mention of any covers from those who have heard the unmastered version of the album. Absolute nonsense.
Yeah, they're currently unsourced but to support it with a reason like Manson having never put a cover on a studio album (with the exception of Smells Like Children being mostly a remix EP, I mean) isn't exactly concrete seeing as "Mind of a Lunatic" did make it as a b-side. Either of the 2 songs (given they were actually recorded) could be b-sides also and probably make it onto the "Putting Holes in Happiness" single like those 3 outtakes from The Golden Age of Grotesque made it onto the "mOBSCENE" single, also that album's first single, and in turn worth mentioning in the article. The shitty thing is they're unsourced and pointless to include for now :( .. I wouldn't mind a Bathory cover tho hehe R-Tiztik 19:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

text: their aren't any covers on this album that i can tell, please add them if you know of someSpeaketh now to me! 18:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' Covers 

message: No way Manson can be synth rock. Goldenglove 15:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Synth ROCK????

message: 'Eat Me, Drink Me was recorded in multiple studios in California, by lead vocalist Marilyn Manson, guitarist and bassist Tim Skold, keyboardist Madonna Wayne Gacy, and drummer Ginger Fish, along with "an assortment of other musicians".'
Then later in the article:
'On April 12, 2007, a press-conference with Marilyn Manson has been conducted, in which he stated the album itself has been a collaboration strictly between himself and Tim Skold.' 
So one is wrong, and it's obvious which as the second quote is from April 2007 and the other is guess work and a quote from November 2005 concerning an album that was scrapped. 84.68.42.143 19:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Inspiration for "this" incarnation of his sixth studio album started around Halloween, so any previous incarnation of a new album anytime before basically November 2006 isn't worth noting. Eat Me, Drink Me has been worked on from October 31 up to now (unless it's complete, of course). I've changed the article to reflect this. And on a side note I wonder what happened to the last upcoming album that was only 2 songs away, or the one that was half complete, and so on... Oh well, it's coming finally XD R-Tiztik 12:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article appears to contradict itself  

message: Because the article is protected, someone needs to remove the part about 'This is Halloween' as it will definitely not appear on the album, as well as the information about the fake covers as the official one has been released.
:"This Is Halloween" isn't there for the tracks that are confirmed, it's there to mention that it could very well be released on the import version as was "Tainted Love". Regardless I suppose it can be removed until this happens. R-Tiztik 20:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates 

message: Could do with losing this from the article in the first paragraph as a) it's not very important, b) it's based entirely on speculation from the fact that IFIWYV and HSG are without swearing. Lastly MITMSFOF features the lyrics 'f--- you, f--- you too' and there are a few other swear words on the record. So it doesn't matter but it probably will have a sticker. Iconoclast322 02:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its been established with the latest album-cover on Manson's myspace that it has a Parental Advisory sticker on it ItsNotLupus 12:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parental Advisory 

message: This is somewhat irrelevant to the album itself, imo John R S 14:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I wouldn't say so, 'cos Manson told in an interview that Vampirism is one of the themes of this album. So the VampireFreaks.com account is one of the advertising means. GoldengloveContribs ·Talk 15:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VampiresFreak.com Account

message: Is there a source for that?
:Yeah. I'm listening to it as I type this. I might be digging a hole by adding a link directly to where I picked it up, but you asked for a source.. lol [SOURCE DELETED]. And I'm gonna buy the record so no one give me "the talk". I bought everything Manson ever released so I don't need that talk hehe. R-Tiztik 05:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that "the source" in question here is called "the internet."  Seriously, how do you get a source for a leak?  VelvetKevorkian 07:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not a place to breed piracy. I'm not going to take the link down but someone probably will.
If it leaked, then it is a fact, no source should be needed. Linking to a place to download it would be illegal anyways. Nickoladze 13:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: oh gee, just tell us where it is already so that we can enjoy it b4 the release. then go buy it so we can still say we paid the 15.95 for it. TELL US!71.206.136.69 18:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah that's why I didn't really want to put the link, but judging on how soon (I added this info within just minutes of the initial leak) the leak had been surfacing for there weren't many sources as it was, so I could understand the questioning of its authenticity. Now that it's been over twelve hours it should be common knowledge that the album is in fact leaked and the source I added at this point will only lead to... more naughty piracy! But I'll do my best to encourage people who did download the album, to buy a retail copy as well; it's worth paying for. That's all I'm gonna say. R-Tiztik 20:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leak 

message: I'm sorry but it just sounds a wee bit perverted to me, just sayin`.
:Thank you for your valuable contribution.
If you knew Armin Meiwes story that the title semi-derived from, I bet you'd be saying that. It's not just a title... R-Tiztik 20:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: huh, even if there is a story it does come of a wee bit perverted if your ignorant to the story
Then again if you were shy to perversion you wouldn't be a true Marilyn Manson fan from the beginning now would you ;) R-Tiztik 05:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: CHEERS TO THEE R-TIZTIK!!</BIG>Rauj16 06:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: The list if not complete, but do not remove it because it is user submited so the will be up soon! Rauj16 06:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: Was a special edition released?  I wasn't able to find a copy through the past week... John R S 01:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Edition 

message: How should the 'current status' section be changed to reflect the fact that the album has been released? 72.196.196.208 02:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems as though someone's already taken care of that. R-Tiztik 22:16, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning Up Article 

message: You can find some photos of the tour for new album on Marilyn Manson@wiki commons --TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tour photos 

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message: The lyrics to Eat Me Drink Me seem to be about American McGee's Alice.--67.161.122.193 (talk) 13:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inspiration. 

message: Does anyone know how many copies of this record have been sold to date? The figure of 214,000 is quoted in the article, however that was 3 months after the album was released, how many more copies have been sold since?--Freikorp (talk) 13:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales

message: I know other manson albums like ACSS or POAAF don't have the Goth-like sound/visuals , but come on people, there is no denying it. This particular Manson album has sounds and music styles obviously inspired by goth culture. --KMFDM Fan (talk) 18:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: EMDM IS GOTH ROCK!

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thread_title:  Improving the article 

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message: The should on the Heart Shaped Glasses film clip should be updated to reflect Evan Rachel Wood's most recent allegations that she was raped during the filming of the film clip. I'm not a regular Wikipedia editor but have just watched the recently released Phoenix Rising documentary put out by Wood which explains much about this album and this film clip in particular. I'm sure there are other sources for the same information. Other information relevant to the album is Marylin Manson's literal blood drinking and other abuse he did to Wood at the time of this album's production and release. 218.214.202.129 (talk) 13:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heart Shaped Glasses film clip