Talk:List of German monarchs

message: I want to readd the pretenders section.  Under the German Empire's Constitution, the King of Prussia was German Emperor; therefore, the pretenders to the Prussian throne are also pretenders to the German throne.  Just check the articles House of Hohenzollern, Line of succession to the German throne, List of rulers of Prussia.  Emperor001 (talk) 02:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pretenders of Germany

message: Since Liudolfing is piped to Ottonian, which redirects to Ottonian dynasty, is there any particular reason why we can't just say  "Ottonian".  Certainly I think of those kings as "Ottonian".  Scolaire (talk) 19:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liudolfing or Ottonian? 

message: Could somebody cite a source for Ferdinand being elected during Matthias's lifetime and becoming king of the Romans?  I've never heard of such a thing, and I've read a decent amount about the period.  My understanding was that he was only elected after Matthias's death. john k (talk) 01:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferdinand II 

message: The sections from the German_Emperor#German_confederations.2C_1806-1871 downwards have separate columns for rulers name and title, yet the titles are actually confusingly split between name and title. Example: Frederick William IV has also the title "King of Prussia" in his name and only "President of the German Union" in his title column; presumably the "King of Prussia" should be moved to the title column as well. Also, to clear the confusion, the intro should discuss the usage of the title of German Emperor from 1871 onwards. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  01:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the idea of the "title" column is that we're talking about the title they held that gave them authority over Germany, not all titles they held.  "King of Prussia" identifies who he was, but has nothing, technically speaking, to do with ruling over Germany.  The idea is that there were various different organizations formed between 1806 and 1871 that were confederations or federations that had authority over the whole of Germany.  The heads of those organizations had titles, which is what the title column is for.  The text should perhaps explain this, though. john k (talk) 02:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

text: No, it would not be appropriate and totaly useless to put them here in a language no reader understands. Certainly not in this list, maybe (if it really must be) in the articles about the various offices. Str1977 (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion about names/titles 

message: I think that the "Emperor-elect" identifications in the list should be preceded with "de jure" because in our modern understanding an "-elect" is someone without power. СЛУЖБА (talk) 07:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: An uncrowned monarch is not always a monarch. The notion that coronation does not make one a monarch is a British tradition. In Hungary, coronation very much did make monarch a monarch. In medieval times, uncrowned popes such as Pope-elect Stephen were not considered legitimate popes - Stephen still isn't. Coronation was also indispensable in Poland. Surtsicna (talk) 10:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emperor-elect 

message: Never heard anyone calling him the red - even his wiki-page lacks that title. (a historian)--92.226.16.184 (talk) 00:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Check his wiki-page again. For a primary source, try the Gesta principum Polonorum. —Srnec (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Otto II. `the red´???? 

message: This article appears to cover the same ground as German monarchy 1918.   I suggest that the two articles be merged.  
IMO this should be done to form a retitled/another page titled: "German monarchy" which should then tie back to both German Empire and Holy Roman Empire
--LookingGlass (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with German monarchy 1918 

message: As the term Reich was used to denote Nazi Germany, and that the Holy Roman Emperorship was elective, I figure that Hitler should be included as he was the de facto "monarch" of Germany.Ericl (talk) 15:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Hitler

message: Napoleon shouldn't be in this. He might have been the protector of the Confederation of the Rhine, but he wasn't it's head. The conferderation had a Prince-Primat. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 20:08, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Napoleon 

message: Hello, I made some correction with regard to the German Confederation and the North German Conferederation. The G.C. did not have a president or any head of state etc. The Austrian delegate presided the Bundestag. Therefore, Austria was unofficially called the Präsidialmacht. The supreme organ of the G.C. was the Bundestag, so one might name the delegate a kind of chairman. In the monarchal world of the time, it is okay to use here the Emperor instead.
The North German Confederation did not have a head of state expressis verbis, but the Prussian King was given the title and function of bearer of the Bundespräsidium. The N.G.C. and the title ended with the new constitution of January 1st, 1871. Ziko (talk) 12:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I think that the Erfurt Union should be removed as it had no formal relationship to the German Confederation. Ziko (talk) 16:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

text: It is not true that the North German Confederation (which actually was a Federation) had no head of state as the Norddeutscher Bund (NDB) was identical in its constitution to the German Reich. The later was merely an expanded version of the NDB, with three and a half states and a Reichsland added and the head of state renamed. Two chief institutions, the Bundesrat and the Reichstag actually retained their names - so the NDB had a REICHStag and the German Reich had a BUNDESrat. Str1977 (talk) 09:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some corrections German Confederation / North German Confederation 

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