Talk:EE-T1 Osório

message: "The EE-T1 was considered for service with the Saudi Arabian Army. It was evaluated against the French AMX 40, the American M1 Abrams, and the British Challenger 1 and emerged as the winner"
sorry not buying it, unless it is referenced of course
(Fdsdh1 (talk) 17:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs referencing

message: Excellent brief account.  But needs Neutral Point of View.  For instance, as it stands, the final paragraph equates nonaligned nations with dictatorial regimes. Also it seems to be saying that the Osorio was flatly superior to all other tanks in the world, a highly debatable and even contentious position.  Also a couple more dates in the article, such as when development began, when trials were held, and when Engesa went under, would be very helpful additions.  Still, the article is helpful.
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I agree with the above commentary. It's a great article, but I have misgivings with the "dictatorial regimes" and "the world gained a lot" comments. I would suggest deleting that final paragraph.
--Agurza 19:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: After looking for any verification of the information, i've removed the un-sourced information regarding the EE-T1 being evaluated for service with Saudi Arabia against other MBTs and being found superior. A search for scholarly sources regarding this claim turned up nothing, and one source contemporaneous to the purported sale does not mention the EE-T1 being offered to Saudi Arabia, while the same source specifically notes Libya had considered acquiring the tank. There is some discussion of the EE-T1 being compared against other MBTs online, but all either lack sources or cite this September 2008 blog post, which also lacks citations. This may be a case of citogenesis, as this Wikipedia page's claim about the tank actually predates the blog post, and no sources are used to back the same information on br.wiki's iteration of this article. As such, I am removing the claim and replacing it with the verifiable Libyan claim until it can actually be verified with a WP:RS. SamHolt6 (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've refined by search, found more scholarly sources, and have subsequently updated the article. I have reinstated the information about the Saudis being interested in the tank and added Algerian and Iraqi interest. I have also found one source that describes the EE-T1 as being "apparently in a league" with American and European tanks, but no still no mentions of the tank being superior to American and European tanks. I've updated the article accordingly. SamHolt6 (talk) 03:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison to other MBTs 

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