Talk:Saint Helena

message: In the article, the writer says that the ban on importation of slaves prevented any increase in their numbers. It's hard to believe that statement hasn't already been edited out. Thr slave population which was already on the island managed to reproduce in the same manner as any other human population.  Myboo127 (talk) 13:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't that depend upon whether the children of slaves were accounted slaves or free?  Different systems of slavery have treated children differently -- and in this case, though at the beginning of the importation ban the children of slaves were themselves slave, things changed:
"In 1792 a new set of slave laws were introduced to the island. Although the 42 Articles mostly concerned the correct treatment of slaves by their owners, Article 39 is of some interest: it stated that no new slaves could be imported to St. Helena. Anyone breaching this law would be fined £50 and also bear the cost of returning the slave to his or her place of origin. Although this did not end slavery on St. Helena it did mean that only existing slaves and their children would remain in slavery – a small but significant step forward.
"Fifteen years later, in 1807, the Slave trade was banned throughout the British Empire. This did not, however, free existing slaves. St. Helena had stopped importing slaves in 1792 so the new law had no impact on the island. In 1818, whilst admitting that nowhere in the world did slavery exist in a milder form than on St. Helena, Governor Lowe initiated the first step in emancipating the slaves by persuading slave owners to give all slave children born after Christmas of that year their freedom once they had reached their late teens. The phased emancipation of over 800 resident slaves began in 1827; under certain circumstances a slave could buy his or her freedom, using money borrowed from the East India Company." (https://www.sthelenaisland.info/slavery/)
Indeed,even earlier:
"A 1673 order from London stated that:
“'We also order that all negroes both men and women living on the said island that shall make profession of the Christian faith and be baptized shall within seven years after be free planters and enjoy the priveleges [sic] of free planters both of land and cattle.'” (https://www.sthelenaisland.info/slavery/)
87.114.237.245 (talk) 13:56, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

text: This reads like some pr person for England or St. Helena...Not one word about slavery..! Dont white wash your truth! 72.190.42.197 (talk) 02:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slaves 

message: I removed some external links, because, as I said in the edit summary, three were not live and one was in Swedish. Someone has put them back, without saying why. Without explaining their own changes, they demanded that I explain mine. So:
The three non-live links were to versions at archive.org, which are incomplete, slow, and years out of date. One of them in fact is functional and would not even need to be the archive.org version, but it's a blog. See WP:ELNO. The other two do not look to contain anything that would make it essential for a years-out-of-date slow copy to be linked; see WP:ELYES and please describe what criterion you think applies if you disagree. And as for Swedish - Wikipedia:External links says "Outside of citations, external links to English-language content are strongly preferred". A Swedish language web page would be useless even if there were some connection between St Helena and Sweden. There is not. Reedsrecap (talk) 09:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

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message: Help is needed to rewrite the Economy section properly. At least, the introduction is inadequate, currently just a mishmash of facts (which are valid but just not in the right place).  Drumstick21 (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy section