Talk:Sunglasses/Archive 1

message: Please try to focus on the matter of deletion of List of people predominantly seen wearing dark glasses in this section of the talk page. Initially from Wikipedia:Votes for deletion
* Delete List of people predominantly seen wearing dark glasses - nonsense (someone)
**"Nonsense" meaning WHAT? That they don't wear dark glasses? That Wikipedia is too elitist to refer to peoples' outward appearance? That you personally dislike that list? If you want to have a look at real nonsense, see List of people by first name.  --KF 22:00, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion discussion 

message: stuff not related to deletion of List of people predominantly seen wearing dark glasses
===The Blues Brothers===
I'm not entirely sure if The Blues Brothers still qualify as fictional characters. True, they were roles played by Belushi and Aykroyd, but after all, they did appear on live television and at one point released an album, which would qualify them as a music act, if not a band. knoodelhed 01:01, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Discussion 

message: I'm not entirely sure if The Blues Brothers still qualify as fictional characters. True, they were roles played by Belushi and Aykroyd, but after all, they did appear on live television and at one point released an album, which would qualify them as a music act, if not a band. knoodelhed 01:01, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [[The Blues Brothers]]

message: I shortened the lists ,because it should be obvious for example, that blind people wear glasses,also the list is bloated. A lot of people and characters wear predominantly sunglasses.
If there are objections just add some persons back. --ThomasK 09:21, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Time to resurrect List of people predominantly seen wearing dark glasses? --Error 01:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of people predominantly seen wearing dark glasses in this article

message: ok, this may sound preeeeety pedantic, but when Cyclops is wearing sunglasses and not in costume, then he isn't Cyclops, he's Scott Summers. Cyclops never wears sunnies, only Scott does. hmm? hmm? --Ballchef 13:24, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  cyclops 

message: I'm not sure that's true; I wear purplish sunglasses (I can be seen wearing them on my userpage, in fact) and they help. But then again, they are sort of purplish-gray rather than purple, so maybe that makes the difference. Yeltensic42.618 don't panic 17:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Purple lenses have no benefit

message: the prada paragraph is extraneous, and looks quite a bit like advertising. The Oakley "thump" lines are dubious, but acceptable, since the design is at least slightly new and marginally unusual. I think both should be removed, since this is an article, not an advertisment.--Caspiankilkelly 19:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  prada 

message: What about "Shades"? That's what I usually call them. I would add it myself, but I don't know the extent of the word, most of the others specify. Gritironskillet 01:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On "Other Names for Sunglasses" 

message: For those interested: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people predominantly seen wearing sunglasses. -AED 23:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Related AfD

message: I'd like to see a single reference found for the paragraph JustinBlue101 added.  (Nothing found via google at this time)  His only other contribution to wikipedia before being banned was to repeatedly delete the content on Donald Trump's page.   CraigWyllie 20:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: My Husband Beats Me Sunglasses

message: Nothing given on sunglass measurements. How do you interpret "Base Curve: 8", "Temple Length: 125mm", "Lens Size: 54 x 38 x 56mm, DBL 13mm" (from the [Serengeti Eyewear Napoli]http://www.serengetieyewear.com/products/serengeti_aviator/serengeti_napoli.cfm page)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnjacob10 (talk • contribs) 06:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for additional information

message: I removed the phrase "blah blah blah" from the Mirrored Lenses section. Someone must have vandalized it...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.159.50 (talk) 18:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Although this happens so frequently it's usually not mentioned on the talk pages.Nastajus (talk) 12:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blah blah blah 

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.17.153 (talk) 17:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somebody's copying somebody else 

message: The second(2) source is unavaliable or corrupt. 78.82.190.14 (talk) 18:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: These were popular through the LATE eighties (not early). This was due to the advent of the Top Gun movie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.25.14 (talk) 01:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Alexander Gradsky started wearing aviators much earlier.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.140.215 (talk) 15:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aviators? 

message: I heard red tinted glasses from a book called "Lights Out! Sugar, Sleep, Survival" helps sleep better/earlier. It talks about how have too much light at night, and this filters some of it out. I'm not sure how to cite this, what page etc, so I'm leaving it here in the talk.Nastajus (talk) 12:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: chicken in "egg factories" are fitted with red tinted glasses so they don't see the blood from injuries inflicted on their "colleagues". 69.9.28.55 (talk) 08:37, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: red tinted

message: there should be citations for the ailments sunglassess suposedly help avoid. Currently there is only one for cancer. The rest are speculative, from what I've read elsewere, and mostly pushed by sunglassess companies to scare people into buying expensive ones. 38.96.176.66 (talk) 14:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and while I'm sure sunglass manufacturers tout dubious features in some cases, it is well understand how UV can harm the retina and cornea.  Health benefits are barely mentioned in the current article.  Other practical information is missing as well.  For example, I use specific sunglasses for specific tasks:  polarized with yellow or amber tint for fishing, orange or yellow tint for hunting, gray or brown tint for driving.  While there are similar examples to this in the current article, there is not much to teach the reader why one tint is better than another for a particular task.  Given that this has been tagged a fashion article, is it forbidden to include an intelligent technical explanation relating to light wavelengths and filters? 204.145.225.27 (talk) 08:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot the "eye-lens" and the development of cataracts. 69.9.28.55 (talk) 08:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need improvement 

message: Here are the UV bands:
UV-A is longest, 400-315 nm
UV-B is 315 - 280 nm
UV-C is 280 - 100 nm or nanometers; x10 for Angstroms.
The SHORTER the wavelength the higher the energy (see Planck Constant) and the higher the biological damage.  So protection DOWN TO small wavelengths is most important.  Most see-through materials, by their nature, lose transparency at extremely short UV (or far infra-red) wavelengths. That is fortunate, but leaves us with problems in the UV-A band.  Technically, protection UP TO wavelengths closer to the visual ones we want to use is an evolving goal.  I hope you can reflect these facts -- we push protection down to short wavelengths because they are ionizing, they break chemical bonds and destroy the body's proteins, while we work to push protection up to longer wavelengths as our technical abilities increase.  In dermatology, the energy of UV-A radiation is low but still dangerous.  UV-A is known not to be able to break many bonds of DNA (which would increase the risk of cancers like malanoma), but it leads to the generation of free radicals and they break the DNA.  Clearly the lens (cataracts) and retina are more exposed and thus more in need of protection.  Hope this inspires others to improve the way "Protection" is presented.  
--jerryJerry-va (talk) 01:01, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Protection" section  & UV-A,B,C 

message: Ain't you, really, think that sunglasses are used only in the USA?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) 09:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. But neither are they used only in Britain. Angr (talk) 09:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: But ain't you deny that the Beatles are British?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) 18:46, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hatred to British English 

message: "Sunglasses have long been associated with celebrities and film actors primarily from a desire to mask their identity."
Anonymity may well be a factor in this, as well as style, but the main reason celebrities wear sunglasses is that most of their jobs take place in front of incredibly bright lights. Most people don't realize this until they end up on a stage or set for the first time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.171.111.77 (talk) 20:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Градского не забудьте добавить.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) 17:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celebrities and sunglasses... 

message: I'm not finding any discussion of self-tinting lenses, nor is there an article by that name. I'm talking about the thigns that go dark when you go outside and allegedly go clear again when you come inside, but usually stay just a little dark even indoors. Are they called by some other name? Or is Wikipedia's silence about these monstrosities a case of "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"? —Angr (talk) 17:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Transitions" (or similar) is used in the trade literature. 69.9.28.55 (talk) 08:31, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Photochromic, adaptive, or chameleons.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) 09:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

text:  See Photochromic lens Nsayer (talk) 17:48, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-tinting lenses 

message: Please stop adding a section called "When you should wear sunglasses" to the article. The section is completely unsourced, as well as POV. It is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Thank you. MsFionnuala (talk) 15:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced POV section 

message: I chased down the Journal of Investigative Dermatology and can't find any reference to a Dr Moalem or any research linked to sunglasses.
http://www.nature.com/search/executeSearch?sp-q=sunglasses&sp-p=all&pag-start=1&sp-c=25&sp-m=0&sp-s=&siteCode=jid&sp-q-9%5BJID%5D=1&sp-advanced=true
So the article http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/8739/Sunglasses+raise+risk+of+cancer seems dubious in terms of value.   Can't find any similar research either.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderchalkidis (talk • contribs) 07:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moalem research - link is to newspaper article should probably go? 

message: Can you explain what is a wet lens and how it helps to the morning bla, bla, bla? Then you can re-write this paragraph and re-insert it: "Clear lenses are typically used to protect the eyes from impact, debris, dust, or chemicals. Some sunglasses with interchangeable lens have wet lenses to protect the eyes during low light or early morning activities." And what is "low light" (low intensity? low angle?) 69.9.28.55 (talk) 09:51, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  wet lens ? low light?  

message: With the greatest respect, the term 'Spekkies' is rarely used for sunglasses in southern Australia. In fact, the term 'spekkie' usually refers to a spectacular mark (catch) of the football in Australian Rules football. Phil (Melbourne in southern Australia)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.63.0.55 (talk) 02:27, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomenclature 

message: I am curious about the history of teashades, which in what is written here seem to only suggest a psychadelic origin, however they appear to be closer in style to the 1930s style sunglasses (pre Ray-Ban more Foster Grant days).  I can't say for sure, but it is suspect to me that within the history of sunglasses great mention is made to their prominence with Hollywood and Atlantic City in the 1930s, and yet there are no photographs or evidence.  Coemgenv (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I do not see how this is relevant to my original posting.Coemgenv (talk) 18:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teashade Sunglasses 

message: *Vintage Round Zyl Windsor Eyeglasses
*John Lennon’s Windsor glasses
*Guide To Round Windsor Spectacles
*WWII_British_Army_Spectacles_with_Original_Case_4.jpg
*"Windsor" BRITISH_ARMY_WW2_a.jpg
Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "Teashade Sunglasses" = "Windsor" glasses (worn by John Lennon)

message: *P3 glasses.jpg
*John Lennon Glasses - British National Health Service 422CJ
* John Lennon’s sunglasses, 1966 Japan tour, Frank Marshall & Co Auctions, Knutsford.jpg
*WWII P3 glasses WWII_U_S__Army_Issued_Q1.jpg
*Four Eyes: Eyeglasses and the WWII US GI
*90th IDPG: Four Eyes: Eyeglasses and the WWII US GI
Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[NHS]] glasses = WWII P3 glasses (worn by John Lennon)

message: by ISO 12312-1:2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.65.58.27 (talk) 15:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  EN 1836 superseded 

message: In recent years there has grown up a most pernicious and entirely unfounded 
belief that light is bad for the eyes. An organ which, for some scores of millions of 
years, has been adapting itself very successfully to sunshine of all degrees of 
intensity, is now supposed to be incapable of tolerating daylight without the 
mitigating intervention of tinted goggles, or lamplight, except when diffused through 
ground glass or reflected from the ceiling. This extraordinary notion that the organ 
of light perception is unfitted to stand light has become popular only in the last 
twenty years or so. Before the war of 1914 it was, I remember, the rarest thing to 
see anyone wearing dark glasses. As a small boy, I would look at a be-goggled man 
or woman with that mixture of awed sympathy and rather macabre curiosity which 
children reserve for those afflicted with any kind of unusual or disfiguring physical 
handicap. Today, all that is changed. The wearing of black spectacles has become 
not merely common, but creditable. Just how creditable is proved by the fact that 
the girls in bathing suits, represented on the covers of fashion magazines in summer 
time, invariably wear goggles. Black glasses have ceased to be the badge of the 
afflicted, and are now compatible with youth, smartness and sex appeal. 
This fantastic craze for blacking out the eyes had its origin in certain medical 
circles, where a panic terror of the ultra-violet radiations in ordinary sunlight 
developed about a generation back; it has been fostered and popularized by the 
manufacturers and vendors of coloured glass and celluloid spectacle frames. Their 
propaganda has been effective. In the Western world, millions of people now wear 
dark glasses, not merely on the beach, or when driving their cars, but even at dusk, 
or in the dim-lit corridors of public buildings. Needless to say, the more they wear 
them, the weaker their eyes become and the greater their need for ' protection' from 
the light. One can acquire an addiction to goggles, just as one can acquire an 
addiction to tobacco or alcohol. 
Aldous Huxley - The Art of Seeing  pg.29
Trent84 (talk) 22:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 12:03, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2014 

message: Issue
The statement:
"There is no rating for transmittance protection for radiation of up to 400 nm ("UV400"), as required in other countries (incl. the United States) and recommended by experts."[10]
appears contradicted in the following paragraph, reading:
"The U.S. standard is ANSI Z80.3-2001, which includes three transmittance categories. According to the ANSI Z80.3-2001 standard, the lens should have a UVB (280 to 315 nm) transmittance of no more than one per cent and a UVA (315 to 380 nm) transmittance of no more than 0.3 times the visual light transmittance."
Solution
Rewrite the first quote as, "There is no rating for transmittance protection for radiation of up to 400 nm ("UV400"), as required in other countries and recommended by experts."[10]
Nick Nardozzi (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards section error 

message: The wiki article has the following:
"- Some Sunglasses Are Cheap In Price Only"
http://wcbstv.com/seenon/UV.Rays.Sunglasses.2.234545.html is a dead link. I found the same article on another site. I request to replace it as the reference... the new url is @ http://purelife-glasses.com/100-uv-protection-sunglasses/
Harrisjohn107 (talk) 02:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  .  I have switched the two URLs.  G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 16:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  if a link is dead, it's preferable to use an archive.org copy of the original source, rather than some copyvio on an affiliate-link spam blog that went up the same day as the edit request. I've dug out an archive.org copy and used that. --McGeddon (talk) 17:04, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

text: A good catch, and explanation of why you did it. Thanks! Reify-tech (talk) 18:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014 

message: With rising awareness of the Blue Light Threat from natural and artificial light sources, there is patented technology to effectively filter blue light. Based on the human body's own defenses, Melanin + Ocular Lens Pigment is an adjunct perfected by Dr. James Gallas, with global exclusivity provided to "TrueBlue Lenses". Although there are other lenses that claim to protect from blue light, the TrueBlue lens filters the blue light spectrum like no other lens for superior protection against veiled glare, benefiting  the lens and retina of the eye. Sdinc (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2015 

message: It starts about how sunglasses can help improve driving safety at night, and concludes that they shouldn't be used!
It then talks about dust and smog particles entering the eyes - ever heard of a windshield?
71.177.145.47 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Land vehicle driving" is messed up 

message: Provide a valid quotation for the statement of UV rays being responsible for cataracts.
This source says otherwise, 
Cataract and UV radiation
Wolff, Simon
Documenta Ophthalmologica, 1995, Vol.88(3), pp.201-204
Dr.steen (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --allthefoxes (Talk)  23:39, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2016 

message: I have no idea how to go about this...I've never edited Wikipedia before and this seems complicated. Just noticed at least 2 errors on the Sunglasses page that are minor, but still...wrong.
#1: Under "Teashades", marijuana is said to be an opiate. Chemically, this is untrue.
#2: Under "Wayfarers", the 1980's TV show "Moonlighting" is called "Moonlightning". 
This was probably not worth my time, but as this is now used as a source of authoritative knowledge by many, such basic mistakes irked me. I still didn't find out much about cat-eye glasses and gave up reading this error-filled page. 
Thank you. --SetonCram (talk • contribs) 01:00, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done And thanks for pointing these errors out. There is Cat eye glasses if that helps any, it's a rather short article. Cannolis (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing the Sunglasses page (I am new to this, see at least 2 errors, and just wanted to see them corrected) 

message: A sentence in the section "Visual clarity and comfort" it states: "The glare is neutralized by blocking the vertical (magnetic) components of light."
The magnetic' and 'vertical' component of light are NOT synonymous.  The magnetic component of light is not exclusively vertical, it can be, e.g. from the sun or any other unpolarized light source, in any orientation.
 
142.1.36.150 (talk) 20:49, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  00:32, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

text: -- Dane2007 talk  02:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2016 

message: In "Function/Assessing Protection" the caption of the Polaroid sunglasses picture is "Polariod Sunglasses". This seems to be a typo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.147.110.247 (talk) 00:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This error is still present: maybe it is time to drop the semi-protection. 2A02:1205:5019:1210:81B1:5334:FC2E:E9F7 (talk) 10:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2017 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: change dead link https://www.klinikum-karlsruhe.de/fileadmin/Files/makulahuenig.pdf to https://cocoleni.de/content/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/makulahuenig.pdf Cocoleni (talk) 01:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Sam Sailor 12:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2018 

message: Remove "whenever a person is in the sun" it's superfluous, or add *wearing* to "The American Optometric Association recommends *wearing* sunglasses that block ultraviolet radiation (UV) whenever a person is in the sun" Thomas Pound (talk) 06:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done NiciVampireHeart 09:36, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2019 

message: Need more information about the design's history made it.
The year of each individual design Alhcua civilization (talk) 09:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need more data