Talk:Pirate Master

message: I like how you've set up the graphs and all that jazz, such as "total booty" for each of the contestants. It'll be easier to follow the show in the future with this in mind.
So far, the reception of the show has been pretty good, despite it sort of falling flat after the first expedition.
Again, good start and looking forward to future updates!Badgergrl04 19:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great start, guys! 

message: Can anyone verify that the Henry Steel part is fictional or not?  Web searching gives me nothing not associated with the show, so it would seem to be something made up.  --Masem 19:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Arrr - found me a link that it's fictional here.  I'll add it in as a reference. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend of Henry Steel is fictional? 

message: If this turns out to be permanent Survivors tribes, then we'll need to scrap that and probably port over the Survivor templates.  If this changes weekly, then my formatting change should save us space.  I hope.  -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 20:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, that looks better and cleaner.  It does sound like each week, new crews are formed at the present Captain's discretion, but we'll have confirmation next week. 
However, even if it is Survivor tribe-like, I think that format works, you just can crossthrough eliminated players up until the next crew change. --Masem 20:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weekly Crew Assignments 

message: It says that the contestants marked with a black spot don't vote, nor does the captain.
So why didn't the officers vote? 3bay sam
:Presumably, if all the votes are for the captain, then the two officers will vote yea or nay to mutiny.  However, the rules aren't fully clear yet.  Hopefully we'll see this part soon enough. --Masem 13:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It doesn't make sense 

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replies: text: I addressed this, and uploaded a new version, providing source and rational. - Jeeny Talk 03:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Pirate master logo.jpg

message: We need a section on this to show whether the show was well-received by audiences and critics. Include some critic quotes too.
--Imtiaz 5:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings/Viewer Response 

message: In the episode table, there's a column on the far right for "Prize Money" ... What does that mean? We already have booty found. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 17:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's referring to the person who was cut adrift, and how much prize money they went home with. I agree that it's not clearly formatted at all... --Maelwys 17:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should just put it under their name, and slap a note on it.  Like John ($2000)? Or possibly put it in the contestants section. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 18:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Ipstenu. ScottAHudson 23:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prize Money? 

message: I would consider using the captain color for the Cut Adrift section, orange for the Captian block and brown for the officers. ScottAHudson 00:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Voting History Color 

message: I'm highly tempted to remove the reasons listed for cutting a person adrift. It's original research unless you're able to cite sources that prove "cockiness" or whatever other reason that's listed beside an individual. -- Xinit 20:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep them. They help me understand why the person was cut adrift more. ScottAHudson 23:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep them if you can cite it.  It borders n original research if we can't back up what we're saying. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 00:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voting reasons 

message: Can someone explain how wikipedia is privy to such detailed voting history (e.g. Kendra voted for Louie) given that this information is not revealed in the TV show?
:Its on the official website. Plus, the vote of Kendra is revealed in the show, you can clearly see "louie" as she stabs her vote on the sword. For all the others, its on the official site Survivorfan101 12:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voting history 

message: Shouldn't we use boxes in Episode 8 for Joe Don, Joy, Sean, Cheryl, Alexis, Christian and John becuase of the promise of what they call "THE GHOST CREW"! User:ScottAHudson
:Episode 8 hasn't aired yet, and we try to avoid speculation. After the episode airs, we'll see what happens. --Maelwys 01:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes! something needs to mention them coming back somewhere in the article. How would you go about using that fact in the Crew Assignments table, though? - Jeeny Talk 03:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weekly Crew Assignments 

message: I think we've been writing the rules section as generically as possible, and while back in Survivor when the Outcasts came back, that was considered a twist (as it never happened before, and never happened again since), its hard to tell if the Ghost crew is a possible game mechanic - it might come up again in future shows (but haven't seen anything to support this yet in spoilers, either way), or it might occur next season ( ha-ha! ).  Since we can't tell, I think it's better to write it as a game mechanic, and thus we shouldn't spell out the results of the specific instance.  Daddo was very specific on how things would resolve in the case of either crew winning, so we can identify both cases generically. --Masem 13:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generic rules 

message: ScottAHudson: I see what you're trying to do (providing a roll-up-able summary of the players) and your request for not deleting the table; I think there's some merit to the idea and could be applied to other shows (which is why I put this on the PM talk page, to see what other people see about it), but the TV series infobox needs to take precedence over the BB-table; first and foremost, this is a TV show and thus we need to have that TV show infobox.  I realize this may make the BB-style table harder to put in place, but I did check to see you had the table developed in your userspace before removing it, so I would play with it more to make sure the current infobox information is not overtaken by the contestant one.   (Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk, just that that change is a bit too disruptive to the page to let sit). --Masem 23:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like it, but I appreciate anyone trying to make an article better. I think it should be like Survivor's, though. One reason is with the BB style table, the names are links and don't go anywhere. The other is that there are already too many tables, plus one for the contestants, in the article. Just giving my POV. - Jeeny Talk 23:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using the Big Brother table  

message: Sixteen men on a dead show's cast
 Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
 Drink for the network canned the show at last
 Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
 
 
Cheers, --anon 192.75.48.150 15:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  YARR! 

message: In the case you do not want to watch it within a browser, or are attempting to dump the streams, here are the direct links. Each episode seems to be split into 4 parts. These streams can be opened only in their corresponding media players. I've tried it, get the latest version if it doesn't work. To dump the streams normally I would try "mplayer -dumpstream", but seems to be some issues with the stream itself. Horrible quality, and the servers are extremely slow, enjoy buffering and jerky/skippyness. Much luck to the rest of you. 71.108.112.100 23:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CBS Innertube Streams 

message: Ok guys, just thinking aloud here...is there a good reason for listing Cheryl as deceased in the Contestants chart?  Presumably we are not planning to change the ages when someone has a birthday since the ages listed were their ages when the show was taped.  I see this as being a similar issue.  However, I agree that the death should be listed in the Post Show section.
Which brings me to questions number two and three...is there confirmation on Az being in PotC? and was that really "Post Show" or was it filmed prior to Pirate Master?--Balder Odinson 22:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post Show 

message: Who was the second Black Spot in Episode 11 and what was the title of Episode 11? ScottAHudson 11:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Spot/Episode Title 

message: Was Kendra cut adrift on Day 26 or Day 27?  ScottAHudson 11:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kendra's Cut Adrift Day 

message: Which cut adrift pirates voted in the finale's Pirates' Court? User:ScottAHudson  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.91.21 (talk) 00:41, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:The final Pirates' Court was used for the picking of the final two teams.  The other Pirates' Court in the finale featured all 13 of the ghost pirates voting.Balder Odinson 04:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I spot-checked around the expedition part of Ep 1, Scott, and they made no reference to any member of the crew; the only "title" they gave the treasure may have been "sunken crocodile treasure". --Masem 00:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pirate Master Finale 

message: I added up the Net Treasure column in the Contestants table and came up with an extra $7687.
However, the Weekly Crew Assignments table seems to give accurate numbers with regards to itself (disregarding the rounded figures).  And now that I'm thinking about it, weren't there a few times where winning treasure was split with the loosing crew as well?  I seem to remember that noted on the table at some point too.  When were those figures removed from the chart?  Balder Odinson 17:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We Have a Monetary Issue 

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