Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind/Archive 1

message: Recently The Elder Scrolls wikiproject has been created.
Its purpose is to create a well organized structure of all articles regarding The Elder Scrolls universe, including games, world lore, and any other information. 
I suggest anyone concerned with TES articles in Wikipedia to join this project, as it will be the main place to discuss anything about TES encompassing more than one article. Expandint TES information in WP chaotically makes it incomprehensive.
CP/M 23:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Elder Scrolls Wikiproject 

message: A lot of articles related to TES is considered for deletion on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elder_Scrolls-related_articles. There's suggestion to merge them into a few articles. The details will be discussed on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_The_Elder_Scrolls, and the concept on abovementioned AfD. Please see if you can make any suggestions or do some merging according to current proposals, and state your opinion on articles' general future here. CP/M 17:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions 

message: This guy's mentioned under "Controversy."  While I'm not arguing that what he says ("After I murder you, I'll rape your corpse.  But don't worry, I'll be gentle.") isn't a bit disturbing, I don't remember him being actually controversial.  Can someone provide a source, or is this just another case of "controversy" being used interchangeably with "stuff I find offensive"?
--Aemilia 19:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be removed, IMO, as I don't see how it is particularly notable. Olessi 04:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nor do I...There was no lawsuit over that or anything to my knowledge that would give this any prominence.  After all, if you mention that, you might as well mention the homosexual tendencies of Crassius Curio, the adulteress affairs in Solsteim (in the GOTY version), etc.  So much could be called controversial; it all depends on one's own viewpoint. Michael 04:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As for Crassius Curio, his tendencies aren't necessarily homosexual - he behaves the same way whether your character is male or female.  He's more omnisexual.--Aemilia 04:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am aware of that, but, nonetheless, one may see that as controvrsial.  One may see him as either homosexual or just a pervert depending on gender.  Then again, some may see no controversy at all. Michael 05:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I removed it for the reasons mentioned.  However, I noted only in retrospect that the section was renamed "trivia" rather than "controversy", so perhaps it was properly labelled and needn't have been removed.  In any case, I'm leaving my changes as-is, because it still doesn't seem particularly notable, even for trivia. — Wisq (talk) 20:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the removal. Morrowind is generally very clean from any offensive material, and this is an untypical occasion, however, with no excessive offense, and just not notable enough to list it, as it incorrectly affects the general impression. CP/M 20:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anhaedra the Dremora 

message: A long time ago, Nords were oppressed and enslaved by the elves. High or Dark, I can't remember. With the help of the god Shor, the Nords fought back and won their freedom. Some Nord NPCs in Morrowind joke about this. Quote: "Seen any elves? Hahahaha..."
Banjotooie142 21:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the Falmer? Michael 05:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why NPCs say "Seen any elves? Hahaha..."  

message: whats the difference between this game and fable {the video game} because in both games you can do what ever you want right?
Pece Kocovski 03:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well Morrowind can be beaten in seven-and-a-half minutes :P http://www.archive.org/details/Morrowind_730 --Huffers 15:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  difference 

message: The distinction should be noted that Morrowind maps are handmade rather than randomly generated as in Arena and Daggerfall. This is why the world map and dungeons are smaller (something that some Daggerfall fans didn't like about Morrowind, especially the dungeons). - 154.20.172.151 08:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  handmade maps 

message: daedric armor:
(if you are doing the storyline, don't do this.)
In Tel Fyr, Divayth Fyr has all but a helmet and shield.
in one of the towers at ghostgate there is a daedric mask of terror.
sakvild the raven at dagon fel has the masque of clavicus vile
Lords Armor:
there is a hidden door at ebonheart in the imperial shrine area (lv 100 lock)to an area with a guy with the armor(the guy is a rebel).
lots of ebony and weapons+some:
rob the vaults at vivec (dont worry about the price, join the thieves guild, drop your money and talk about price on head
talking statues:
|||sheogorath:st. delyn canalworks
|||molag bal:bal ur
|||malacanth:yassimidan(spelling,forgotShadin(NEW) 19:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  secrets on xbox 

message: Keening and articles like it might be better kept directly on the main page. --Mareino 23:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there articles on other Tools? If not, I'd say it should stay as it is. --Koveras  18:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an article for Sunder. ModusOperandi 16:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. But I guess someone has got to submit some infos about Wraithguard first. :) --Koveras  16:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created the page: Kagrenac's Tools. I will merge Keening and Sunder into it. ModusOperandi 16:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kagrenac's Tools 

message: I recently got my hands on a copy of Morrowind. And noticing that there is a rich story line behind the game, I am worried that with starting my Elder Scrolls expierence with the 3rd game, I will be missing a lot of that story and might be consfused with Morrowind's story. I feel impeled to find versions of the first two games just to get caught up to speed. Are the previous games that important to Morrowind and soon to be Oblivion? Or will I feel welcome when playing Morrowind without the previous knowledge?
       Tis' okay, weary traveler.Do not be worried.They each have their own line.Shadin§§
13:32, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jumping into Morrowind 

message: I've reviewed the latest changes to the link list. Morrowind has an extensive online community, so it needs some more links than commonly. If we have to clean the links list, we should start from personal blogs, obsolete sites, sites on specific topic like vampires, etc., not sites of common interest. In case you disagree, we'd better discuss it. CP/M 04:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: ...and majestic players can find a rich-world to literally sort of live a separate medieval-type life in.What does this mean?  I would like to reword it to make it easier to understand, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what the author(s) meant. - Pwbrooks 16:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea. I tried to give that section a quick NPOV, and removed that sentence entirely in the process. --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change needed, but what? 

message: I guess this is pretty minor, especially since this is an article about a video game of all things, but the line:
:The most entertaining way of playing Morrowind is to conduct oneself within the virtual world much as one would conduct oneself in the real world.
bothered my when I read it.  I agree with it, personally, but I know quite a few gamers who find it more entertaining to power through games like this stealing and killing everything they can.  I seen references to players who played the entire game collecting spoons to spell things in the sand; or breaking every crate available; or other equally bizarre but entertaining items.
I think the sentiment expressed in the statement is valid, in that the designers of the game clearly attempted to make it posslble, and even preferrable, for players to play through the game as they would in reality.  But I think there must be a better way to make that claim.
Kutulu 14:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nitpicky POV 

message: This article has been changed a bit too much into a how-to guide. It isn't good for articles, as stated in WP:NOT, so something should be done about it. I don't suggest removal of information, because article isn't bloated anyway, but some local rewrites to more encyclopedic tone would be a good idea. Also, the article may need some cleaning - the information should be potentially interesting to a general reader, and some how-to phrases could just be reworded. To everyone working on it, I'd suggest to shift focus on quality and avoid how-tos in the future. I'll fix it a bit soon, but more corrections will be needed anyway. 
In general, it just needs to make a change from "you should do this and this, in oeder to..." to "player is able to...". In case it is irrelevant to game description, it would better be removed overall; appreciating all the work, the usefulness of this guide here is questionable. The current revision is stored at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Elder_Scrolls_III:_Morrowind&oldid=73780869 , if someone plans to copy how-to to UESP or other wiki, where it would fit fine.
CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 17:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How-to guide 

message: What's up with the article? Most of it's gone--Age 15 19:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was probably blanked by a vandal.  I don't know for sure (this is my first time on this particular article), but that is a typical reason why large portions of a page disapear.  The other alternative explanation was that there was a "fatty" section of the article, and an editor cut out some of the needless portions.  Just some thoughts.  Green451 02:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's wrong? 

message: The editors of this article should be proud.  I cannot imagine a more thorogh, even handed discussion of this game.  The references are many and easily verifiable.  The article is well written, well divided as far as sections, and accomplishes effective inline citations.  My only reservation is that more images should be added.  I would research the availability of screenshots, as this would be the most effective way to illustrate items in the text.  Overall, this is great work.  Cheers! Chuchunezumi 03:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nomination passed

message: The non-free (i.e all) of the images in the article need fair use rationales, as a lack of them is a violation of GA standards.  For an example of a CVG screenshot with a rationale, see this image.  Thanks, Green451 15:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Geuiwogbil 05:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use rationales