Talk:Urban-type settlements in Ukraine

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message: The list itself is kind of a mess. There’s a bunch of extraneous crosswiki links to the Ukrainian Wikipedia articles for each settlement, the populations are randomly included on some and not on others, and the native table of contents doesn’t function properly with the custom subsections. I’m thinking of just converting it to normal subsections with bullet point lists inside. Thoughts? If there’s no opposition, I’ll start working on the reformatting. HappyWith (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: First, we now have articles on all urban-type settlements of Ukraine (with a possible exception of Crimea), so we do not need Ukrainian links. Second, a couple of days ago Zelenskyy signed a law which abolished urban-type settlements in Ukraine, Whereas I have not yet seen a document showing what happens to them (presumably some promoted to cities, some downgraded to rural localities), it does not make sense anymore to have a list on a given date - we probably should list all localities which used to be urban-type settlements ever, and indicate the dates. Ymblanter (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I’m thinking we could have efn notes next to any urban type settlements that weren’t always urban-type settlements between 81 and 23, specifying the relevant timeframe. HappyWith (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

text: I've made the edit to change it to a bullet-point list. Only problem is, now the article is very vertical, with tons of unnecessary whitespace. There must be some way to use columns and a floating TOC to make it more navigable, though I'm not sure exactly how. HappyWith (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nvm, fixed it. Now all that needs to be done is the notes for the dates. HappyWith (talk) 23:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reworking the list 

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The result of the move request was: moved. unopposed move (closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph (talk) 10:11, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: List of urban-type settlements in Ukraine →  – This article should expand its scope to go over the history of the designation in Ukraine, its administrative significance and meaning (which currently isn't covered at all for some reason), and the debate over and reasons for its abolition in 2023. Having "list" in the title unnecessarily limits the scope. HappyWith (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

text: Forgot to mention this in the nom: Urban-type settlements of Ukraine could be another option with roughly the same meaning. HappyWith (talk) 23:54, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Ukraine has been notified of this discussion. Polyamorph (talk) 07:37, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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thread_title:  Requested move 27 October 2023 

message: Is this really true? I’ve seen articles on Ukrainian settlements (ex: Pokrovske (urban-type settlement)) that mention them being given urban-type settlement status before 1981. The source linked to support the 1981 claim in this article is a source that I’ve had trouble translating to figure out exactly what it's saying. HappyWith (talk) 16:20, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I am pretty sure there were urban-type settlements in Ukraine before 1981, but may be the status was discontinued at some point and reestablished in 1981, or there were some other caveats, I do not know. When I have time I will try to have a closer look. Ymblanter (talk) 18:35, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

text: Actually, the designation "urban-type settlement" was officially adopted by the government of Soviet Ukraine in 1925 to replace the term "town" (Ukrainian: містечко). Here is the text of original decree: . The 1981 decree was just one of many which regulated the procedure of how exactly settlements might change their status (e.g. from village to urban-type settlement, or from urban-type settlement to city) — this decree did not introduce the term, but just updated the previous 1965 regulation. Kammerer55 (talk) 06:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! I'll add this into the article. HappyWith (talk) 20:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Established in 1981? 

message: I've been very slowly adding the dates that each place was an urban-type settlement over, but I've run into a bit of a concern - there are over nine hundred UTSs in this article already. If I keep adding new references for each one, will that end up breaking the article due to length problems? HappyWith (talk) 15:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates and refs