Talk:International Typographic Style

message: Hi, yes, a typeface can be used as a model for another. Witness: Adrian Frutiger's use of Paul Rennner's Futura as a model for his own typeface Avenir; Carol Twombly's examination of Trajanus in creating Trajan; or, Zuzana Licko's use of Baskerville's type as a model for her own Mrs. Eaves face. I am uncomfortable with your use as "a driving force." This is an abstract euphimism, not particularly encylopedic. Could you be comfortable with "served as an inspiration"? 
What also concerns me is your lumping Univers and Helvetica together as having the same "driving force." They come of extremely different briefs. Helvatica actively used Akzidenz Grotesk as a physical model, the intent being to make it more regular, and only a single width was originally produced by Hoffman and Miedinger. Univers take much more minimal inspiration from the actual physical form of Akzidenz Gotesk, Frutger's states goals were different: created a large unified realist sans-serif typeface that could be set cross culturally on various systems. His brief was more ambitious and of a far greater scope than updating Akzidenz Grotesk. CApitol3 18:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I said a style (that is, the Swiss Style) can't be used as a model for a typeface, but that it can be the "driving force" for one. It is my understanding that both typefaces were created at least partly because the designers involved in the movement needed more/better sans-serif typefaces. Recury 18:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sure that's true but this is the article on the Swiss Style of design not Akzidenz or Helvetica. Do you agree that the Swiss Style was a "driving force" behind the creation of those typefaces? I'm open to changing the wording if you are still uncomfortable with it, but I think it's an important point. Recury 19:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: OK, I'll delete it at least for now. A claim like that should really have a source or two anyway. If I find anything, I'll let you know. Recury 20:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Akzidenz as model for Helvetica and Univers

message: When I first made this, it seemed like International Typographic Style was the more common name for it, but now that I have done more research, it seems like Swiss Style is more often used. I'm considering moving the article to Swiss Style, which is now a redirect to ITS. Which name is more common in your experience? Recury 20:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITS or Swiss Style? 

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message: I'm going to be working on expanding the information in this article. I have two editions of Meggs' History of Graphic Design that I'll be working with, and probably some other sources I will find as I go. I think this article needs some information on why cleanliness and objectivity were emphasized by Ernst Keller and why he felt that was important. Also some of the history behind the movement (who were the major players, who was against it and why) would be nice. 
--Michwellithy (talk) 20:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding this Article