Talk:Chuppah

message: See: User talk:Newman Luke#AfD Nomination: Conjugal obligations and rights in Judaism
Newman: 
(1) Have you even bothered to read the article about the Jewish Encyclopedia wherein in clearly states that it was written from a very specific WP:POV, and it is not "automatically" a WP:NPOV source, nor is it fully reliable as such: "Jewish Encyclopedia#The Jewish Encyclopedia and Wissenschaft des Judentums: The scholarly style of the Jewish Encyclopedia is very much in the mode of Wissenschaft des Judentums studies, an approach to Jewish scholarship and religion that flourished in 19th-century Germany; indeed, the Encyclopedia may be regarded as the culmination of this movement. (Levy 2002) In the 20th century, the movement's members dispersed to Jewish Studies departments in the United States and Israel. The scholarly authorities cited in the Encyclopedia—besides the classical and medieval exegetes—are almost uniformly Wissenschaft figures, such as Leopold Zunz, Moritz Steinschneider, Solomon Schechter, Wilhelm Bacher, J.L. Rapoport, David Zvi Hoffman, Heinrich Graetz, etc..." 
Therefore, WHATEVER their strengths and uniqueness, these are NOT classical or conventional Torah and Judaic scholars. They are fundamentally secular academics and they do not write from within the 3,500 year old heritage of Torah Judaism, to say the least. Thus, their views cannot be accepted carte blanche nor can they be the lone standards by which Judaic subjects on Wikipedia are reported and judged. That is why it is both dangerous and foolish to copy their words verbatim without seeking greater balance from the classical religious commentators and sources. 
(2) And very importantly, please read "Wikipedia:Jewish Encyclopedia topics#Method: ... DO NOT indiscriminately dump text from the JE into Wikipedia! At a minimum, please:
*format the text according to the Wikipedia Manual of Style;
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*remove 19th century references unless they really move the text along. 
You are also encouraged to research and update the articles with new information.
When you have finished editing your article, add the  template.  This practice not only creates a proper reference of the source of the text, but will also help locate articles which demand updates since some of the information from the JE may be obsolete.  
For a good example of a Wikipedia article adapted from the JE, see Yiram of Magdiel."
Thank you for your attention to this serious matter in the hope of avoiding any misunderstandings. IZAK (talk) 04:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia is not the Jewish Encylopedia verbatim

message: Once upon a time there were two articles, Erusin and Nesuin, for the two legal parts of the Jewish wedding. Someone merged Nisuin somewhere else, and it is now redirected to Jewish Wedding.
Now, Jewish Wedding is now an article emphasising the wedding as a ceremony, rather than a legal event. The argument for redirecting Nisuin is modern Hebrew, but this is the English Wikipedia. From a viewpoint of the English language, the only reason for such a term here is the legal one.
Since Nisuin and Chupah are synonyms - Chupah originally being a compartment, and both the canopy and Yichud (seclusion) are major methods of fulfilling the requirement, I would like to add something about Nisuin here.
I do not mean to change the main emphasis or the name of the article - just something in the introduction, and a section on other methods of Nisuin / Chuppah, such as Yichud. (The Yichud article is not appropriate, since it is mainly about the prohibition of seclusion of unmarried people.)
Any comments?Mzk1 (talk) 20:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Slight correction; they aren't exactly synonyms. Chuppah is the method of accomplishing nesuin.Mzk1 (talk) 22:09, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to add Nisuin here 

message: The veil... and the fact that the groom sees the bride without it... traces back to the Biblical story of Jacob. Jacob intended to marry Rachel, but Rachel's father (Laban) switched his daughters so that his older, Leah, was whom he married. Jacob did not notice the difference - until it was too late - because the girls wore veils. Jacob was then forced to make a deal with Laban in order to marry Rachel as well.
To avoid such a deception, the groom now gets to see the identity of the bride before the veil is put on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.107.91 (talk) 15:16, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The veil