Talk:Tibetan script

message: I agree with Erg55 that the edits you have made on this page are good in that it provides more information about the letters in the alphabet, something that seems to have been missing.  I believe the "n with a hyphen over it" can be encoded with unicode (n̄).  I agree with erg55's comments about what could be explained to improve the article.  Overall I think the changes are good improvements.
Sj31 (talk) 03:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A comment

message: Your edits look really good. It looks like you added a lot of info about the alphabet that wasn't there before. . . even if the bots didn't appreciate it. Also the way you rearranged some of the information makes more sense. The one thing I would suggest is too clarify things with the consonants and vowels. If possible you can maybe use some IPA symbols or something but just saying that they have the vowels "a, i, u, e, and o." doesn't really tell us much. All those vowels can be pronounced several different ways in english and they probably aren't the same as how they are in Tibetan. Same thing with the consonants but to a lesser extent. Also I'm very confused with what " ’ a chung " means. Also I don't know if this is possible or not but maybe you could find a way to write n with a hyphen over it instead of describing it. But very good improvements overall. Erg55 (talk) 18:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the additions don't really say anything about how the letters are pronounced. There may have been a time in the past when each letter had one pronunciation, but in modern Tibetan varieties, they can have multiple pronunciations. The original pronunciations are believed to be roughly the same as the IPA sounds (i.e., [a], [e], [i], [o], [u]). a chung is the Tibetan name for the letter འ, which is written ’ in the standard Roman transliteration. This sound it silent in all (almost all?) modern Tibetan varieties, and it's unclear what sound it was intended to represent—there have been some disagreements among scholars on this point. Suggested possible values include [ɦ] and [ʔ]. The a chung is also sometimes transcribed as "v", although there is no indication that it had a sound anything like [v]. One more thing: I'm not sure what the additions means by n-with-hyphen. The standard Roman transliteration uses no diacritics. I have seen variant forms that use "ñ" instead of "ny".—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 05:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hey Sam

message: isn't there the lower case letters as well.  the printing tibetan script is called uchen, i forgot what the cursive or normal handwriting script is called.
here's a picture of a handwritten script: 
(u know its pretty hard to write uchen, its very boxy and sharp, used for printing and larger banners, but the other script is used for writing letters and notes).
i haven't been able to find a font for it.
:Wow, I've never seen Tibetan in hand-writing. Thanks for the picture. And to answer your question: No, there are no lower case letters in Tibetan. As far as I know, Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and Armenian are the only alphabets with upper and lower case distinction. Oh and... please sign your comments. — N-true 01:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After only 15 month, it's fixed. It is U+0304 (̄). It's a combining macron and you write it after the "n" and hopefully it gets rendered O.K. Works for me (W2K, Mozilla 1.7). See also Combining Diacritial Marks.  -- Pjacobi 19:26, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: Instead of using a combination of two graphs, it would be better to use the single Unicode letter for n+tilde: U+00F1.Jakob37 08:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: An dbu-med font has been created by Xenotype for the Macintosh -- too bad their keyboard entry software is so awkward.  Jakob37 13:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

text: One of the main features of Wylie's romanization system is that it uses no diacritics. So, if the romanization is in this article is following the Wylie system, there should be no need for characters like ā (a macron) - which is btw Unicode character U+0101 / ā.   202.89.26.71 (talk) 14:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Question on tibetan script

message: Does any body know if Tibetian script can be writen vertical and still mean the same as writen from left to right? -CVest
It took me a long time to figure out how to display Tibetan script on Wiki pages in my browser.  The info page linked from the Indic script warning tag does not talk about Tibetan.  After downloading several fonts, I found the best one to be one mentioned in the external links at the bottom of the article.  It is open type and has a GNU license, from The Tibetan & Himalayan Digital Library.  Works for several systems, but I'm not sure about Mac.
Could we replace with Indic Script warning tag with something that would help users know what they need to read the script in this article, and others on Wiki with Tibetan script? Or, maybe add Tibetan to the Wikipedia:Enabling complex text support for Indic scripts page? --Dorje Shedrubn 22:15, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Works fine for Mac. Trondtr 21:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Tibetan has been added to the Wikipedia:Enabling complex text support for Indic scripts page. However no info for Mac. Chris Fynn 19:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I did what it says to do on the URL you supply, but all it did was turn Firefox's Tibetan script into illegible vertical black and white stripes.....Jakob37 13:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, I don't know.  Have you tried IE?  Also, are you sure that the font showing up is really Tibetan Machine Uni, as opposed to Arial Unicode MS?  On IE that is controlled manually using "Tools:Internet Options:Font:Language Script:Tibetan." I think the default is set for Arial Unicode. 24.0.32.122 03:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes! I got it to work in the IE environment when I followed your instructions. --- Now I guess I have to pester Mozilla about how to do it in Firefox... .....Jakob37 14:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Displaying Tibetan Script 

message: I'm having trouble with Tibetan. The actual characters are rendered just fine, but all the diacritic marks are shifted, so that rather than being on top of the characters, they're beside them. Is there a quick way to fix this, or what's going on? Thanks for any help. -- Hidoshi 02:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At least IE has an option to specify fonts specifically for Tibetan. In FireFox you need to specify  a Tibetan font as the font for "Other Languages"  - which is OK so long you need to use only one "Other Language"  Chris Fynn (talk) 15:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem in Safari 

message: There seems to be something on this page (maybe an included template?) which causes most (but not all) Tibetan characters to render as boxes in Firefox on Windows - though I have no problem viewing other pages containing Tibetan script with this browser and have proper fonts, Uniscribe, etc. installed.
No problems with IE.  Chris Fynn 19:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that. If you name a Unicode Tibetan font as the default in Firefox under Tools, Options, Content, Fonts & Colors, Advanced, Fonts for, Other Languages it works. Chris Fynn (talk) 15:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't on Mac. I did as you described and entered "Tibetan Machine Uni" as font for "other languages", and it still shows question marks where there should be tibetan characters. Doesn't work with Jomolhari, either. -- megA (talk) 19:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with Firefox (Windows) 

message: Is there a place we may ask for Tibetan script to be added to particular articles? Chris 08:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: similar to the template for  Chris 22:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now created one at  Chris 02:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  I've added a name in Tibetan script to the article Shabdrung Ngawang Namgyal (ཞབས་དྲུང་ངག་དབང་རྣམ་རྒྱལ།).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CFynn (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requests for Tibetan script to be added to articles

message: Can someone render "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Tibetan script? Thanks! Chris 03:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Something like: གྲ་སྒྲིག་གྱིས་ Jakob37 08:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tibetan Scouting

message: I have replaced the first occurrence of the "jomolhari" font with "Tibetan Machine Uni" (i.e. the word "dbu-can") and also the first occurrence of the "jomolhari" font under the rock-photo.
This is to see if other users --- especially under Firefox --- will or will not see more normal Tibetan when using the more widely available Tibetan Machine Uni font. Curiously, I find that after installing the Jomolhari font, it stacks properly in the second occurrence at the top (i.e. the word "dbu-med")but in the second occurrence under the rock-photo it still does not stack properly, at least under Firefox. Feedback appreciated!Jakob37 00:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very small, especially under the rock-photo. But it works perfectly well for me (WinXP, Firefox). — N-true 01:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also works fine for me in both browsers. When specifying font name 'jomolhari' should probably be 'Jomolhari'. Also regarding text in caption under rock picture the subjoined letter "MA"  in the "Padme" of "Om Mani Padme Hum " should get shifted slightly to the left when using the Jomolhari font - this is intentional in the design of that font.  - Chris Fynn (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither Jomolhari nor Tibetan Machine Uni seem to work with Firefox on Mac. (Tried both in Preferences>Content>Fonts>Advanced>Other languages)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MegA (talk • contribs) 19:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Experiment 

message: Can someone add an image of the alphabet and its sounds for those of us whose browsers go berserk when confronted with non-standard fonts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.227.245.186 (talk) 20:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures of the Script? 

message: Would it be possible for anyone to add discussion of the gigu "verso" and the special religious symbols in Unicode to this article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.63.29 (talk) 04:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the gigu "verso" and special symbols 

message: In the interest of encouraging readers to try out the script after reading about it, it might be useful to include in the article the names of fonts and keyboard layouts that render Unicode Tibetan-script correctly on the Windows, MacOS X, and Linux platforms. This would be a good source:
https://collab.itc.virginia.edu/access/wiki/site/26a34146-33a6-48ce-001e-f16ce7908a6a/tibetan%20fonts.html
If I get any feedback here then I'd be willing to draft a short section.
Ste3ve H (talk) 08:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List Tibetan-script Unicode fonts/keyboard layouts on major platforms? 

message: Help is needed to edit the Tibetan entry on Imagine Peace Tower to show the proper characters in that script.  Photograph of this panel is at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Imagine_Peace_1.jpg and the characters used should depict this exactly even if some would translate the English phrase "Imagine Peace" differently. Thanks.Irv (talk) 19:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've completed this task. --Gimme danger (talk) 20:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed on wiki "Imagine Peace" page 

message: In all but one of the tables the Tibetan letters are so small as to be difficult to read. Does anyone know how to fix this? Moonsell (talk) 11:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe try Windows 7. Gantuya eng (talk) 11:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Tibetan characters became tiny on my PC last time when they installed so called Utibetan with Windows XP. Gantuya eng (talk) 11:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Mac is exotic for me. Gantuya eng (talk) 12:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tibetan letters too small in the tables

message: I installed fonts from Microsoft and then went to control panel and fonts but I still see no tibetan symbols. Rather, I see nothing when I go to the Tibetan wikipedia. Can anyone help me?
BTW I am using Safari. Can anyone tell me if it's the browser or something and if it is how can I put the Tibetan script on Safari?Kanzler31 (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also in Firefox the vertically combined characters are simply sequenced horizontally. Also vowelisation signs are not combined with the consonant vertically in Firefox, they are shown horizontally. How to manage this problem? ༄༅།།གང་ཐུ་ཡཱ།། (talk) 09:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still can't see Tibetan Scripts 

message: This font is no longer available and was intended only for Mac users. --NotDoingDone (talk) 18:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Symbols in boxes are expressed in kokonor font

message: The glyphs for ཨ་ (a) and for ས་ (sa) are mixed up in this image.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.51.79.162 (talk) 02:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Image for the Tibetan alphabet has 'a' and 'sa' mixed up

message: It says there are too many external links, so can we just get rid of the dead one? Cathfolant ❦ 22:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link in external links 

message: Is it a glottal stop or stress? Is there a reason apostrophe is used instead of a standard IPA glyph?
Justin Kunimune (talk) 20:25, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Wylie transliteration is in ASCII by design choice. --RichardW57m (talk) 12:31, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

text: Yes, Wylie transliteration is in ASCII by design choice. --RichardW57m (talk) 12:37, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does /'a/ mean? 

message: I understand that Tibetan has a lot of silent letters. It would be nice if someone who knew something about this would contribute to the silent letters article. --Macrakis (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Tibetan silent letters

message: Why does བྱ not appear in this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: བྱ (bya) is the combination of བ (ba) and  ྱ (-ya). --Voidvector (talk) 05:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: བྱ

message: This page has a table of Tibetan numerals but no additional information. The history of "half numerals" is highly questionable, at least according to this unverified source https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Blog/2007/04/numbers-that-dont-add-up-tibetan-half.html
Syrak (talk) 05:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  No citation for use of Tibetan half numerals