Talk:2006 Ukrainian parliamentary election

message: In case you are interested in Ukrainian or Russian language links, some of them are available in a Finnish version of the article. Very few electoral blocs or parties offer also English versions of their materials, so one way of developing the articles further would be translations.
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainan_parlamenttivaalit_2006
81.175.152.26 06:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: In case if you are interested in developing the topic, here is the advice from the local intellectual: concentrate on the very few electoral blocs or parties (really about 5) :). All the rest are just marginal puppets created due to the lacks of electoral legislation. Please don't add info on all of the parties -the :Category:Politics of Ukraine is already littered with mere crap. Ukrained 14:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Priorities

message: Anyone who feels like:
*Dutch version of this page has the polls by Razumov centre (not difficult to figure out who-is-who) Muumi 00:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! 11:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Polls

message: Is there ambiguity in the possible translation of "НЕ ТАК" in "Опозиційний блок НЕ ТАК!"? I would say it means "not like that", but Halyna Bondaruk uses "not yes" in her translation here. Anyone? (Apart from the 'feeling' that the name of that party starts in Ukrainian, but ends in Russian !?)
Muumi 07:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You both are quite right, with all three of the aspects listed by you :) You know, political brands and slogans in modern European tradition are intentionally formulated as multi-meaning. So all three meanings deserve to be included to a respective article. Thanks for asking. Ukrained 21:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: НЕ ТАК

message: Sorry but what is this map meant to represent? The expected % votes? Between whom, PR and NSNU? I think a legend will be nice for a start. Otherwise I assume this is just the breakdown of Ukraine into different regions, in that case I would like to see the colour gamma to be changed into more neutral tints.--Kuban Cossack 17:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. It is meant to show where the "non-administrative" regions as used by KIIS are situated. These are quite arbitrary. Based on the 2004 results, one might contest this division. If the legend were to show West (orange), Center (yellow), South (light blue) and East (dark blue) would that help? Alternative is to explicitly name which oblasts/cities/Crimea belong to which region (cf. the  on Commons). What is nice, is that each of these represent 20-28% of the population. The colours are taken from similar images used in Commons in 2004 Muumi 10:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: KC: Could you please explain why you removed the map without finishing the discussion first? Muumi 20:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not remove the map, someone else did... I still think it is wrong to use such colour gamma particulary since organge and blue are not Yuschenko vs Yanukovich, here it is different. Perhaps red for the west (historic name Red Ruthenia); white for centre; green for east and maybe yellow for the south will be better, at least this avoids putting biased pre-election opinions on those selected regions. --Kuban Cossack 20:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi. In my opinion, the map is useless as it represents the standard geographic division of Ukraine by East/West/Centre/South. The same division is used in meteorology, for example. I't absurd to put the map on each page where Centre, South, East, or West Ukraine is mentioned. Uapatriot 21:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image of regions

message: FYI, I've changed a piped link to here from the Current events to read "Verkhovna Rada" rather than "Parliament". I thought it would be appropriate since English uses words such as Duma, Soviet, Knesset, Jamahiriyya, etc. ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link from the Current events 

message: *There are three parties, scoring more than 1%, of which I don't know anything: the Ukrainian National Bloc of Kostenko and Pliushch, Party "Viche" and Party "Renaissance".
*I can't understand where the Constitutional Democratic Party (2.1% in 2002) and the Ukranian Republican Party (allied with Tymoshenko Bloc in 2002) are gone.
Are there some links between the new parties and those late parties? If anybody can help me, I will be very glad. Checco 12:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New parties, old parties (or are they the same thing?)

message: What is the source for the number of seats won by each party? The CEC website does not give this information anywhere I can find. And what is the meaning of "Viche"? Adam 06:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of data

message: Could someone explain to me how it is that allegedly ksenofobic and fascist galician voted for the more moderate Yushchenko while the heartland voted for the Timoshenko which is said to be radical and russofobic?
The pattern seems to be that the more rural and exclusively Ukrainian-speaking areas remained loyal to Yushchenko, whereas Kiev and the more cosmopolitan, but still Ukrainian-identifying, central areas voted for Timoshenko because they want faster progress towards economic reform. The Russian areas voted for Yanukhovich. Incidentally, is Timoshenko related to Marshall Semyon Timoshenko? Adam 11:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Doubtful, the name is not that discommon. As for results then one has to remember that Yushchenko is American raised theif, Timoshenko is central-raised theif, Yanukovich is eastern-raised theif. I mean after being subjected to all exreames people in central Ukraine voted for their own person (better have your own theif rather than a foreign one). As for nationalist then Yushchenko certainly loses out having elements like KUN, RUKh and Sobor in his block. Most of the central Ukrainians refused to identify with such elements. Even the western Volhynia where my wife comes from voted for Timoshenko (although her family voted for Vitrenko oddly enough).--Kuban Cossack 11:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Guys, if you really need to discuss this in Wikispace, pls move it to a subpage Talk:Ukrainian parliamentary election/forum or similar. This page is primarily to discuss the article. --Irpen 19:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hence why I initially blanked the comment. --Kuban Cossack 22:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spatial distribution of votes

message: Can someone show me where at the CEC website the data on the number of seats won by each party can be found? Adam 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is my understanding. The results published by CEC are still officially "preliminary" results. Once the final results are certified, they will become official and the official gov agency will anounce the seat distribution. The results about number of seats given by the media are their own calculation based on the preliminary results. Since it is highly unlikely, that there will be any meaningful difference between today's result and the certified ones and the conversion of percentage of the vote to a seat number is straightforward, we can use the number of seats given by media. I don't see a problem with this. Here is the calculation by Ukrayinska Pravda but there is nothing non-trivial in it. --Irpen 06:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Нема за що! --Irpen 06:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

text: See Veche. --Irpen 07:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Inna Bogoslovska's party. See ,  06:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Results

message: Considering that this ongoing and quite heated crisis can result in dissolving the current Rada, do we need an article on Ukraine parliament crisis, 2006? (Igny 02:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be useful, though it seems that the current information in this article is incorrect as the socialists backed out of the "orange" coalition. --Musaabdulrashid 20:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now tagged the page for updating as the Oleksander Moroz article says that he, the chairman of the socialist party, will become the new speaker of parliament in a coalition of the SPU, Communists and Party of Regions.  This information is in other articles too, but the hype over the election has gone down considerably and I can understand why no one has updated this yet. Musaabdulrashid 05:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukraine parliament crisis