Talk:Heavy metal music

message: The redirect Soul metal has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Tollens (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Soul metal]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Add the Oxford comma to the lists of 3 contained in this article. PlantRulx (talk) 22:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: MOS:SERIAL the Oxford comma is not required, as long as it is consistant within the article.   RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2023 

message: Change it 38.143.53.98 (talk) 16:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Your opinion isn't shared by music critics and musicologists. Binksternet (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

text: We go by the stances of professional music publications, not anonymous opinions on the internet. Sergecross73 msg me 18:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal is it's own genre, not another rock subgenre. Please change. 

message: "Attendees of metal concerts do not dance in the usual sense. It has been argued that this is due to the music's largely male audience and "extreme heterosexualist ideology".
What is this statement, besides ridicilous? Wolfram1987 (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the references, it appears to be referenced from the writings of published author Deena Weinstein (PhD). Sergecross73 msg me 20:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "Largely male" is fair, but to describe a subculture where Judas Priest and Queen are as revered as they are in metal circles as "extreme heterosexualist", well...Maybe it "has been argued", but including that in the article seems like giving it undue weight. Rob Halfords own wiki-page mentions that "Halford has previously spoken about the level of acceptance of his sexuality within the metal community, calling it accepting and inclusive.", and on the subject matter I'm prepared to say that "being Rob Halford" lends more credibility to speak on this particular subject than does "has a PhD in Sociology". Wolfram1987 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The commentary is in reference to the genre in a general sense. Anecdotes from a non-heterosexual frontman don't discredit it on a whole. You'd be better off trying to add a counterpoint from Halford than trying to delete the criticism wholesale. Sergecross73 msg me 21:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Extreme heterosexualist ideology" 

message: This is ridiculous. What is this even in reference to? I checked the source and it doesn't even bother to cite any sources or even name any examples. This should be deleted. 73.227.19.245 (talk) 15:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It does cite a source, it cites the book Lords of Chaos (which is, to be fair, known to be lenient with accuracy). The quote from the book is "Floridians Morbid Angel began donning paramilitary clothes for their live appearances, courting a neo-fascist demeanor, and reinforcing it with inopportune and illiberal comments in magazine interviews". Above this quote is a photo of David Vincent performing on stage in an all black paramilitary uniform with an arm band. Issan Sumisu (talk) 15:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems pretty clear to me... Sergecross73 msg me 16:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Morbid Angel adopted neo-fascist imagery"