Talk:Jeffrey Goldberg

message: Know to be a "convenient Jew" for hiring and promoting antisemitism at the racist left wing magazine, the atlantic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.193.250.2 (talk) 18:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection to its removal, given the category listing.  Removal of such descriptions occurs in Wikipedia header paragraphs. --NYScholar 23:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am coming off a 1 month block so I am just trying to keep everything kosher as it were :). Thanks --Tom 13:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Prominent Jewish American

message: Explanation of tag: See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.  This article appears to be relying too much on the subject's own website for information about him.  It needs greater variety of reliable sources.  See WP:BLP with link to WP:Reliable sources. Such articles are not to be advertisements for their subjects. --NYScholar 23:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That it does not, but that it actually has a section detailing a number of his individual articles, makes this read more like a CV than a Wikipedia article. Unschool 22:52, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: POV?

message: I have several concerns about the neutrality of this article. In general, the extensive reliance on and citation of quotations from Goldberg's liberal critics seems to violate the NPOV policy--specifically the fairness of tone guideline. (It also gives the overwhelming impression that Goldberg is a conservative journalist--why not cite the Progressive naming his book one of the best of '06, his recent criticism of Wal-Mart, etc.) As for specific issues...
The charge that his articles, "some critics say, reiterated the government line in maintaining ties between the September 11 attacks and Saddam Hussein's Iraq" seem to violate rules on attribution and substantiation. (Also, actually read "The Great Terror"--the charge itself, even if it can be attributed, seems untrue.)
This sentence seems problematic to me: "'The Great Terror' has been criticized, however, as putting undue weight on the claim that Saddam Hussein gassed Kurds in Halabja, as opposed to Iran." Wikipedia's own page on Halabja concludes Iraq was responsible. I think this should be deleted.
Is the section "Review of Jimmy Carter's book Palestine Peace Not Apartheid" worth including? It seems trivial in the context of Goldberg's entire career. I would flag this as undue weight. 
Mlpotter 04:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious questions about neutrality

message: I feel quite uncomfortable witrh the opening sentence as it currently stands, Jeffrey Mark Goldberg (born September, 1965) is a former Israeli Defense Forces prison guard and an American-Israeli[1] journalist. While this is factually true and nothing to be ashamed of, it feels like some people would want to put the zionist=racist blame on him right from the opening words. I didn't check, but i don't think the article on Mahmoud Abbas opens with "...is a PhD holder in Holocaust denial () and the current president of the Palestinian Fatah party".--RCS (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Make the changes and place that author information in the bio section.ShamWow (talk) 18:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening sentence

message: The intro labels Goldberg as American-Israeli. Can anyone confirm, and better yet provide citation, that he is Israeli? My non-exhaustive search doesn't turn up any website but Wikipedia making this statement. I'm aware he served in the IDF, but afaik that doesn't necessarily make him Israeli, nor does living for a time in Israel. Without a decent cite, I'm thinking this should go. --CAVincent (talk) 00:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, was able to answer my question. Here he refers to himself as "American-Israeli" and discusses voting in Israeli elections. --CAVincent (talk) 02:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: American-Israeli?

message: Wondering whether the Greenwald quote belongs in the header.
What does it contribute?
I don't see Goldberg's jabs at Greenwald in Greenwald's header.
What I'm really saying: these two have a weird history of back-and-forth articles full of veiled (and not-so-veiled) insults and criticisms.
See:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/01/a-question-from-glenn-greenwald-updated/251705/2/                    
http://www.salon.com/2010/08/13/past_2/
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/01/more-on-glenn-greenwald-israel-firsters-and-idiot-editors-updated/251852/2/
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/27/goldberg_7/
and so on...
By all means, the criticism should be included in the article, but I am not so sure that Glen Greenwald is the right person to be quoted in the header of this encyclopaedic article, seeing as he appears to be out on a bit of a professional vendetta against the subject.
Thoughts?
--76.179.237.21 (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As a general rule (since this question is long settled here) the subject of a bio should never be attacked in the lede. Even articles about the likes of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot, and their ilk, don't leap straight into their awfulness, but start out by explaining why they were notable before they earned their infamy, so it can be understood in context. To leap straight into criticism of someone who is not in the running for the title of History's Greatest Monster, but at the very worst is thought by some to not be very good at their job, stinks of someone trying to skew the article to push a negative POV from the outset. The one or two times I've seen it, it stank of obvious vandalism. 23.242.135.196 (talk) 03:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glenn Creenwald in Header 

message: Thanks to the editor(s) who included this section. In contrast to many Wikipedia articles, with this article, I was able to go directly to that section and find out what I needed to know. ---Dagme (talk) 01:51, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Views 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I just removed a description from the infobox that described Goldberg's ethnicity as Ashkenazi Jewish. I don't see that as necessary, considering the infobox already identifies him as Jewish. In any event, I'm not sure if there's a reliable source that describes him as either Caucasian or Ashkenazi Jewish. I think it's safer to leave that empty for now. FuriouslySerene (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article as it stands indluges Goldberg in his racist, hyper-ethnocentric myth-making, by running with the following quote without any qualification; claiming he was "a powerless 13-year-old boy suffering at the hands of Irish pogromists, juvenile pogromists." Sorry, any evidence for this at all? At what time, date and place did these "Irish pogroms" happen on Long Island that poor little Jewish boy Jeff Goldberg was caught in the middle of? What are the names of the Irish people who were arrested for this pogrom? I've scowered the newspapers and cannot find any reports of this type. This appears to be a racist anti-Irish blood libel and an attempt for Goldberg to create for himself a victim-status, Wikipedia shouldn't run with it. Alasdair Mac Colla's Ghost (talk) 19:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The article does not say that happened. It says that Goldberg" claimed" that it happened. Are you suggesting that for some reason we should try to hide the fact that he has made claims of that kind, that we should suppress information about what kind of opinions he has expressed? If so what other articles would you like to change so as to hide the fact that some people have said things you don't like? JBW (talk) 14:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

text: I've made this edit. Keep headings neutral: A heading on an article talk page should indicate what the topic is, but not communicate a specific view about it. Changed heading for this section. Bus stop (talk) 14:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "pogromists"? 

message: The website is located in the Info-box but I find it difficult to access "Jeffrey Goldberg's personal website". Bus stop (talk) 22:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for pointing this out. I have removed that nonfunctional link from the infobox. NedFausa (talk) 22:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Bus stop (talk) 01:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Jeffrey Goldberg's personal website" 

message: I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section using cite templates. Capitalization and punctuation follow standard cataloguing rules in AACR2 and RDA, as much as Wikipedia templates allow it. ISBNs and other persistent identifiers, where available, are commented out, but still available for reference. This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 02:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography