Talk:The Big Sleep (1946 film)

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--Alexs letterbox 09:45, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: " A famous story tells that, during filming, the director and screenwriters could not figure out who had killed the character of chauffeur Owen Taylor. They sent a cable to the author, who replied saying "I'm damned if I know!"" But is there any good support for the tale.
-- Beardo 07:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The general thrust of the story is correct, but I don't think that's the actual quote. It's mentioned in his recent biography. Ebert gives a different sentence. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19970622/REVIEWS08/401010360/1023  Greglocock 07:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anecdote

message: There are two citations/sources in the article for the view that the alterations to Chandler's story made the film great. I'm of the opposite view: the Bogey and Bacall heat ruined the film. What's with all his earlobe-rubbing? And how pointless is the long scene where he chats up the bookstore-law student? That should have been cut to 30 secs. And the female lead should be Carmen. The 1978 remake is more faithful, but Carmen Sternwood still hasn't found her place as one of cinema's great baddies. Is there any link/source that backs me up? Please. It's about time for a remake.--Shtove 21:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boo! HIss!

message: the second paragraph finishes off with raw opinion: if i knew markups i'd mark it but i don't. i'll figure it out later or allow someone else the pleasure.
Rocknrollanoah 07:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: changes necessary

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Thebigsleep.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Bigsleep2.JPG

message: The page currently has written that "the 1945 film noir version is in side-A, the 1946 movie star version is in side-B."
Then later on that "In the late 1990s, a pre-release version — director Hawks's original cut ... differences between Hawks' film noir and the Warner Brothers "movie star" version."
The DVD I'm holding right now says "the familiar 1946 theatrical version (side A) ... and the less-familiar 1945 pre-release version (side B)." I can only assume that the first sentence is currently backwards but I would like it to be confirmed before I/you change the page Kansaikiwi (talk) 00:34, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: the two versions

message: In the "Post-production" paragraph discussing the changes made between the 1945 and 1946 versions we presently have "Furthermore, the parts of James Flavin and Thomas E. Jackson were completely eliminated." It would be more useful to know who these characters are/were, rather than just the actors' names. (I don't have access to the 1945 version.) -- Louis Knee (talk) 16:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes for the 1946 release

message: A list of indicators of the film's wartime production includes "a woman taxi driver who says to Bogart, 'I'm your girl.'"  This isn't nearly as self-explanatory as the rest of the list, and a quick internet search neither enlightened me nor explained why this line would have been common parlance during the war.  Could someone please explain, or even better, link to a source where this appears in the article. 24.18.218.123 (talk) 08:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the lady cab driver's exact line that indicates the wartime setting, as much as it is cabbie herself - performing a job that would otherwise be exclusive to men only, were they not all overseas or otherwise involved in the war effort. Saying "I'm your girl" in a tossed-off manner is a way for the cabbie to convey a casual business-as-usual manner, but not without maybe a bit of swagger.Vonbontee (talk) 21:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But that's the point - the phrase itself doesn't obviously indicate a wartime setting. Unless the cabbie is parroting some wartime slogan then 24.18.218.123's objection is reasonable - the quote should be removed as it is causing confusion. -- Louis Knee (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

text: And it has a double meaning that is is another example of the sexual innuendo that runs throughout the script.  The cabbie later gives Bogart her card, and suggests that he call her up when she is off duty.Legbeforewicket (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing statement regarding the wartime setting.

message: Does anyone know why it's called "The Big Sleep"? If so, the article ought to explain. The film is completely incomprehensible, rescued from aabsurdity only Bogart and Bacall, but it need not have an incomprehensible title as well. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 04:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The following statement is listed in the article on The Big Sleep (that is, the novel upon which this film is based): The title is a euphemism for death; it refers to a rumination in the book about "sleeping the big sleep", and is not descriptive of the plot.  (64.252.1.135 (talk) 13:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Title of film

message: Is there an authoritative source for Agnes' surname (in the 1945/46 film)? At the moment, it's shown as "Louzier" in the plot summary and "Lowzier" in the cast list. To be honest, I can't even remember if it even appears in the film. Louis Knee (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agnes' surname? 

message: Is there a source for this? Nothing in the film remotely hints at it, which is probably to be expected, but it still needs a source in this article. Mighty Antar (talk) 19:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geiger - Lundgren homosexual relationship Comment 

message: Is it possible to synopsise the 2 cuts at the same time on here? TargaryenSquire96 (talk) 19:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The synopsis 

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