Talk:Bobby Beausoleil

message: Should it be included? An edit summary suggests that this issue was discussed, but I don't see any discussion here. So discuss it here or link to where it was discussed please. DMacks 17:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion is at User_talk:165.228.131.12.  I've asked them not to re-insert that link.  SWAdair | Talk 11:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have reviewed the link.  It is to the Official Tate LaBianca Blog.  This is a blog that over the last two years has become the primary research site for the TLB case.  It has primary research and many articles.  There is no question in my mind that it is a valid link and should be reinstated. Spawnopedia 18:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is spam. Look at page histories for mass spam attacks and see Wikipedia:External links, particularly point 11. This was already discussed many times and the link was deemed inappropriate. It has been, and will continue to be, reverted on sight. Philip Gronowski Contribs 21:17, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is not spam because you merely state so.  I see the page histories but I merely see you reverted every time without discussion.  I find no discussion anywhere.  I therefore will have one here.  If the discussion here concludes the link valid, then your reversion will be [Wp:Vandalism]  I am not sure by what authority you speak to me like that, but this is the page to discuss the link and it will be discussed here whether you accept it or not.      That said I see your point 11 and by extension this boils down to whether COL SCOTT on that page is a recognizable authority or not.  I will ask several authorities for their opinion and should they agree, then that is that. Spawnopedia 21:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will ask several authorities for their opinion... WP:OR. If your authorities want to come contribute to the discussion on this talk page, they're more than welcome to join in. But you running off to survey self-selected "authorities" doesn't cut it. (PS: Saying "official" in the blog name doesn't make it an authority.) --Kynn 21:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text:  I read the link.  No slight intended but based on what it says, are you saying you are stupid not evil?  I don't get it.  The authorities would be the people with the top websites on the case, Mark Turner at www.charliemanson.com and Bret at http://www.internet.is/bret/manson.htm
Certainly seem good to me.  Spawnopedia 21:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Vandalism is done in malice, removing the links was not done in malice, it could have been done in ignorance (stupidity) of the reliability of the author. "Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice" therefore applies to your previous comment. Again, don't call other person's edits vandalism unless they clearly are. Philip Gronowski Contribs 21:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, now that that part is settled: Merely having a link to a blog on a website does not indicate that the website is a recognized authority. The website was also determined by several administrators and users to be inappropriate. Philip Gronowski Contribs 23:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to blog

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message: I've included more info on the Clair Obscur show, including references.  Please discuss before removing - my edits on this were removed, saying the references were not valid.165.189.169.190 14:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I don't know that actor is really accurate in terms of the primary, initial description of him - he didn't really act in much - there's not much to the "Acting Career" section.  Also, the article states he was a member of The Grass Roots/Love and that's the primiary focus of the "Music Career" section.  However, the founder of the group says he wasn't a member - he came around sometimes and hung out played rythym guitar, but was not a member.  However, he has focused on music in his life in prison.
Would he even have a Wiki article if not for his involement with the Manson Family and his crimes as part of that group? 165.189.169.190 (talk) 14:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: INitial Description, Music and Acting

message: At the bottom of the article, there is an external link to the "Home page of Bobby and Barbara Beausoleil".  What is that?  Did he marry in prison???  (if so, the Wikipedia entry makes no mention of this).  Am I to believe that that is a photo of the Manson Family's Bobby Beausoleil???  What is this???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.141.105 (talk) 16:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the webpage for Beausoleil and his wife. Yes, he married in prison. It's not on the page because there isn't much out there to source it at this time. And yes, that is a photo of the Manson Family's Bobby Beausoleil. If you look at the old pictures of Bobby here (click on Bobby's story and Chronicles), you can easily see it is the same guy, 40 years later. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Homepage of Bobby and Barbara Beausoleil"

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message: The following section is not cited. It should be deleted or re-written in an objective manor, since this article is in reference to a living person.  
Beausoleil went with Atkins and Brunner to Hinman's house, where Beausoleil had also briefly been living, demanding that he give them money, but Hinman told them he didn't have any money to give them. Beausoleil called Manson at Spahn Ranch and told him no money was forthcoming, and was instructed by Manson to hold Hinman captive at the residence and convince him to get the money before Manson arrived.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qual479terrace (talk • contribs) 03:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  This section is not cited 

message: I wonder if it would be OK to include in the opening statement that Bobby is a music artist. He has collaborations with lady Gaga and several music albums that are on apple music, spotify etc. Other convicts also have information about their creative careers, such as Danny Masterson. Thoughts? GatosCiencia (talk) 16:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Myself, i don't think it's necessary to change the opening paragraph of the lead; there is information about Beausoleil's music (and other activities) in the second paragraph, which should be sufficient.  WP:FIRST says , which i understand to mean that we should put the major reason the subject is notable in it, not a list of secondarily important things.  In this case, there is no doubt that Beausoleil is notable almost entirely because of his involvement with Manson and murder; anything he's done since is very definitely secondary. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 19:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description redux