Talk:Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Archive 2

message: When has an episode of Buffy lasted 60 minutes? Even Once More, With Feeling lasts only 48 minutes (the approx. time given on the DVD of said episode). Don't we mean that the run-time is 44 minutes?
:Yes, we certainly do, at least approximately so... maybe the editor wanted to round it up to fit into the hourly rather than half-hourly category (distinguishing the show from sitcoms)...? No point. Changy change. Zeppocity 15:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 60 minutes

message: I like the new category headings, a lot. It makes the article much easier to read. Good call. BarkingDoc 22:18, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I just thought that since the text, as it was, consisted of entire blocks, putting headings and officially breaking it off sub(sub)sections gave it a bit more flow and allows people to jump about to what grabs their attention. Personally, I thought the previous version was completely unreadable... If anyone wants to go ahead and rework the things into a more coherent text as a whole, or maybe develop these shorter portions of text into full independent sections, those might be good ideas, if only for allowing some less splitting into sections, but yeah, I actually think this turned out nicely as it is.Zeppocity 22:47, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: The introductory section of this article is current 7 paragraphs long, which is more than twice the maximum recommended length (1-3). It's so long that, together with the infobox, it pushes the table of contents well below useful positioning. We should move a good bit of the current "intro" material into other sections (or in its own section) and/or tersely summarize its content if already expanded upon in the main article. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:10, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro section length 

message: (Originally there was to be 8 seasons instead of 7. The first evil & Caleb were to be in season 8 along with every other monster that was in season 7 were to be moved to season 8.  The plot for the would be season 7 was for the hellmouth to completely open and release EVERYTHING the scoobies gang have ever killed, defeated or destroyed. Including Mr. Trick, Glory, Adam, Vampire Willow & Every thing else ever slayed by Just the scoobies gang or a fried of the scoobies gang. Every monster that was in a thousand mile radius of the Sunnydale hell mouth was to be magically inclined to head right to Sunnydale.)
I went ahead and removed this as it seems very suspect and something of this nature definitely needs to cite a source. If someone can and add the link to the article, feel free to add it and reintegrate this back into the article. --Bacteria 08:08, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I recall reading the same thing about "every single monster" back then, but I have no idea where. Some quick Googling only gave me info on this book which seems to have a wholy different story. Retodon8 09:12, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Yep, and as one of my friends on a BtVS board so eloquently put it, "every character, monster, villain and third demon from the left" will be appearing in the 100th Episode. Cruft. Bin it. (Even though it would have been about 635,000 times better than what actually happened...) Kinitawowi 09:26, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Uh huh. Complete fancruft, unless there's an actual quote to back it up from Whedon et al. Rhobite 01:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Season 8

message: This topic needs an entry under Canon (fiction). what is considered buffy canon? angel? comics? books? games? movie?  --Quiddity 01:42, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Canon

message: Should there be a  section about episodes like "Hush", "The Body", and "Conversations with Dead People"?  I don't know how to edit an article really.
:"Hush", "The Body" and "Once More, With Feeling" are all explicitly mentioned both as critically acclaimed, risk-taking episodes and as "fan favorites".
:If you know how to find an article's talk page, then you know more than most Wikipedia contributors. Welcome aboard!
:chocolateboy 18:17, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen OMWF performed in Rocky Horror Picture Show style on stage at Dragon Con 2005.  Twas very good. The Bearded One 05:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

text: The date of the performance I saw was 02 September 2005 in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. The Bearded One 07:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that when he says Rocky Horror Picture Show style he probably means that the episode was played on a screen while people who dressed up acted along with it, as opposed to the aborted original stage adaptation. - Dharmabum420 07:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Landmark Episodes

message: I was having a discussion on a buffy message board, and it was called into question how know Kendra last name being Young.  There is a link next to her name in the list of recurring characters but there is no mention of the publication of the interview the quote was taken from.  The source is nothing more than second hand information and not evidence.
By the way everyone at buffy-boards.com loves how thorough the Buffy and Angel articles are on wikipedia.  Both have become the preferred resource.  I added an external link to the message boards.
--Tjkphilosofe 07:24, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More details needed 

message: I was reading the summary for Robia La Morte and was surprised that she is very much against witchcraft.  I wonder what disturbs her about the occult and witchcraft.  I figure she did research in preparation for being Jenny Calendar.
I don't believe she has done much after Buffy.  I remember seeing her on CSI.  You could barely recognize her, and the part wasn't all that extensive.  Has anyone seen her in any other productions recently ?
--Tjkphilosofe 14:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of heart 

message: 2 things. The Sunnydale HS football squad was the Razorbacks (...). And does anybody know if The Judge's hand was at all inspired by the artificial hand of Götz von Berlichingen?  Trekphiler 15:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Farfetched; was G.'s hand ever said to come alive on its own?  —Tamfang 04:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Well, I do think that the article is very good, in terms of information that is provided as well as relevant citations, I felt it was a little cluttered, so, going by the "be bold" motto, I changed a few things. Binthemix 10:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A few things

message: Since both of the listed official websites are dead is it worth removing the links? --Brother William 20th April 2006
:I agree, removing the dead links is desirable. 14:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website links 

message: I have deleted this section from the main article. This is English section of Wikipedia. XPeeple 04:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other languages 

message: This section has existed for a very long time (somewhat abitrarily paired with "metaphorical nature") without really coming together with references, except the one to an opinion article, which actually says the opposite of what it is being used to support. The quotes are discussions of Joss Whedon's writing process, not moral issues. I have been a Buffy fan (I dare say scholar) for many years, and while even the creators joke about how characters are not allowed to be happy for more than a few moments, I have never encountered a serious discussion of Buffy having a puritanical bent. Since there is an entire article on Buffy and social issues (which is itself comprised entirely of original research) I think I am soon going to delete this section, unless someone can provide some reference or a reason why this original research/opinion deserves to be kept. 
I think (in a shorter version of what I just wrote at the "social issues" talk page) that to even suggest that Buffy HAS any moral connotations is already to have steered into the realm of opinion, or at best academic analysis. I am looking into developing something like "Academic Discussions Of Buffy The Vampire Slayer" in order to use the good references in a format that is more encylopedic. Ideas? BarkingDoc 21:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moral Connotations 

message: Wikipedia contains entirely too much Buffy stuff. The show was all right, but it's been off the air for years now, and, even when it was still broadcast, it never deserved all the attention it is given in Wikipedia.  Other hit TV shows do not have anything near the coverage that this show receives.  Is Joss Whedon secretly paying off the Wikipedia staff or has he hired an army of Wikiwriters to publicize his work?  Ninety-five percent of the "articles" concerning Buffy deserve to be deleted, and, yes, I was (and remain) a fan of the show.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.200.116.9 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 7 May 2006  (UTC)
Don't be silly -- there are plenty of articles on television shows far less popular, and older than Buffy. Tobyink 22:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete ''Buffy'' Stuff 

message: The show does air on FX in the morning dummy!
Wow, that was fast. Was gonna remove it myself, saw I wasn't logged in, logged in, template was gone. The Taped Crusader 22:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't Delete ''Buffy'' Stuff 

message: The subheading 'Main Characters' could do with having a spoiler warning just below it as it details character's deaths.  While there is one futher up the page under 'Format and Themes', it might not hurt to have another under the 'Main Characters' heading. 
Kat 02:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoilers Under Main Characters Subheading