Talk:The Adventures of Tintin

message: Check WP:NFCC. All opinions welcome. Thank you. walk victor falk talk 19:15, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011_March_28#File:General alcazar.jpg]] 

message: In the opening paragraph it is stated that The Adventures of Tintin has sold more than 350 million copies worldwide, and has appeared in over 80 translations, with reference (footnote 1) to a Guardian article dated 10 Nov 2003, which mentions more than 200 million copies and 50 languages. I find this unnecessarily confusing and misleading. Incidentally, is Dutch the only language in which Tintin is named after his trademark quiff ("Kuifje")?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.23.44.130 (talk) 06:46, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point; the text must match the reference. Text has been corrected. —Prhartcom (talk) 13:37, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of copies sold and of translated versions 

message: The History section of this article contained somewhat inappropriate text (added after this article reached Featured status) that had a few sentences which could be incorporated into other sections of this article but as a whole was not the best choice to describe the history of The Adventures of Tintin. It has been archived here (see also the Archive text box above):
History section as of 10 December 2011.
Meanwhile, in several of the series' articles including The Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure, there existed (the same text in each article) a History/Background section that contained very well-written text that is truly the history of the entire Adventures of Tintin series. For that reason, that section has been removed from those articles and moved to this main series article. See the talk pages there. 
This new History section of this article now requires one additional paragraph explaining the history of The Adventures of Tintin after Nazi-occupied Belguim, which would include Tintin (magazine) and Studios Hergé. I have made a small attempt at that paragraph and absolutely welcome other's creative input to complete it.—Prhartcom (talk) 14:48, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: History section replaced by more appropriate text from different article

message: Shouldn't there be a small note on the pronunciation of Tin Tin?  Americans pronounce his name as if it was a "tin" in "tin can"
Europeans pronounce Tin Tin, with the tin rhyming with "han"  as in "Han Solo".
Nasukaren (talk) 10:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed -- a brief pronunciation guide is worth including. That reminds me, has anyone established a connection between the origin of the name Tin Tin and Rin Tin Tin? Seems too close to be merely coincidental. Cheers, Mabuse (talk) 03:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of Tin Tin? 

message: If you like the graphic novels of Tintin, you may put this Userbox on your userpage like this: 
--Tangopaso (talk) 19:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox Tintin 

message: According to the article book 10 (The Shooting Star) "was the first to be originally published in colour". However, the article on the book states that "the Shooting Star was first serialized in the newspaper Le Soir in black and white". --Oddeivind (talk) 11:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct; that story, like the others before it, was serialized in a black and white newspaper, and when the series ended the volume was published, in this case in colour. —Prhartcom (talk) 18:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Shooting Star 

message: There's a discussion on which comic-related articles should be listed as "Top Importance" on the importance scale, and I feel this article should not be included. If any user disagrees or wishes to contribute, please do so there. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:41, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Importance? 

message: I'm not that active anymore but I recall being involved in the push to make this an FA.  If it helps, I relied heavily on Thompson's book on Herge which was to be honest a disappointment for me. I couldn't trace a copy of either of Farr's books in our library system here, someone had taken out his Tintin companion and never returned it way back when. I do still have copies of Sabin's works if they're of any use but I mined them for all they worth all that time ago, and I still, somewhere, have The Comics Journal issues. If I can be of any assistance, let me know, preferably via my talk page, but my time here is limited and is tied up on another project at the moment. I recall User:Fram also being interested in this article so it might be worth asking them if they can be of any help. Good luck with it, and thanks for the kind words regarding my prose.:)  Hiding T  13:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello and welcome back, Hiding. Fortunately I own four important Tintinologist books, two of which you mentioned, and am currently reading them.  You are of course welcome to return to the task of making this article deserve its FA, it would be an honor to have you.  I have personally invited User:Fram and two others who have stopped by recently to help us if they can; Fram told me he also participated on some of the work on the original FA. I did not know it was you who wrote some of this prose (I see your edits now in history) that I and others have managed to keep intact in the article.  I am honored to know that, and I wish you would stay and, unless there is a good reason otherwise, help keep it in the article.  Please see the To Do list above and help if you can.  I hope you can stay.  Cheers. —Prhartcom (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Hi

message: "In one instance, the success of Tintin in 1929-30 was tied to a specific innovation: People in Belgium had never actually seen speech bubbles before--they were a new American idea.  Herge virtually pioneered their use in Europe.  The effect was seismic: Readers reacted to the early words and deeds of Tintin as if they were carved on tables of stone."
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—Prhartcom (talk) 02:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made mention of Hergé's interest in the American speech bubble system in the second paragraph of the "History" section. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea note: Highlight that Speech bubbles were a new idea 

message: I'm amazed! you must have been working on this for some time.  What a dramatic, wonderful change; I am completely in favor of it.  This article has not seen such bold editing in years.  I actually encountered an edit conflict with you as I was working at the same time, improving the citations.  You heard about the first phase of the History section, and what it's been through to get here, right?  This enhances the existing text of the History section wonderfully. —Prhartcom (talk) 22:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello there; thanks for your kind comments. I must admit, I copied and pasted a lot of that material from the work I've put in at the Hergé and Tintin in the Land of the Soviets pages, and then edited it to better serve this particular topic. So it wasn't all 100% new prose that I put together here. I will endeavour to continue to expand this History section (and various other sections) over the coming months, but it may take time, so please bear with me! My intention is to simultaneously work on this page, on the Hergé page, and on the individual articles devoted to different Tintin books (hence why Soviets is going through our FA nomination and I have just put Congo up for a GA review; America is next!) Of course, continue with the great work that you have been doing here too ! Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New History Section 

message: The Legacy section of this article contained somewhat inappropriate text (added after this article reached Featured status) that had a few sentences (many with cited references) which could be incorporated into other sections of this article but as a whole was not the best choice to describe the legacy of The Adventures of Tintin. It has been archived here (see also the Archive text box above):
Legacy section as of 16 June 2013.
—Prhartcom (talk) 04:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Passages removed from the Legacy section

message: Hello to User 84.210.44.152, who added the new section "The blueline system".  There are a few problems with your work and it was necessary to revert it; I would be glad to go over it with you if you would like.  However I wanted to let you know I did greatly enjoy reading the source material you provided from author Paul Gravett about Hergé's "clear line"; I will be adding it to this article's bibliography so others may enjoy reading it also; thanks for introducing it! —Prhartcom (talk) 19:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You welcome. Sure, if you wish to go through the information and use it to create a new section or even article, or adding the info elsewhere, be welcome to do so. I'm not sure what you mean by problems, so instead of using the trial and error approach, it will probably be better if someone with more experience are willing to do it. 84.210.44.152 (talk) 19:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Curly Turkey I do agree with you and in fact, before reading your post I had only just realized I had never noticed, until now, that the article has no section titled "Production" or "Technique".  It would come after section Research. Note: User 84.210.44.152's contribution discussed the normal process of comic book lithography. Note: The article's table of contents is already quite long, and this would make it one more section longer. Note: We would need prose that would absolutely reflect the source material. —Prhartcom (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: One way to handle long tables of contents is to use , which can be used to suppress subsections to a chosen depth.  For instance,  would suppress the sub-subsections under "Characters".  Also, I was thinking that maybe the "Adaptations and memorabilia" could be moved to its own article—it's got nine subsections all its own!  Pretty overwhelming, and somewhat tangential. Curly Turkey (gobble) 00:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant, that helps, thanks. —Prhartcom (talk) 05:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The blueline system? 

message: Assouline & Raus is listed as 2011 in the references, but as 2009 in "Further reading".  Could you double-check which is right? Curly Turkey (gobble) 22:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I also noticed some other mysterious cites: Peeters 1989? Peeters 2012? Farr 2001? Gravett 2005? Curly Turkey (gobble) 22:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm so glad someone is double-checking, thanks Curly Turkey; I am checking into these that you pointed out immediately, BRB.  We need to go though every citation and check the citation properties then double-check text–source integrity; it's even on the To do list. This article's citations must be perfect. —Prhartcom (talk) 23:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Gravett 2005 would be:  I have it on my shelf here. Hiding T  23:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Farr 2001 is listed in the sources as Farr 2011, note the listing for 2011 also mentions the 2001 edition.  Not sure if you then need to list it again or to redo the sources, as I'm not sure if the pages have changed in the new edition. Hiding T  23:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Peeters 1989 is likely , although the article itself states 1988 as year of publication. Hiding T  23:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Looking at the Land of the Soviets article, Peeters 2012 is : .  Hope that helps. Hiding T  00:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This does help, thank-you Hiding.  Earlier I realized I had created a problem for myself by acquiring and referring to later editions of the Farr, Lofficier, and Thompson books that were newer editions of what had been come before, realizing I must now go back and double-check each each item in the bibliography to ensure I am properly identifing the correct edition, page, isbn, etc. This will be done. —Prhartcom (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assouline & Raus: 2009 or 2011? 

message: Is Tom McCarthy (writer), novelist the same man that writes for The Guardian?  I'm honestly not convinced.  —Prhartcom (talk) 21:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I can confirm that they are one and the same. My copy of Tintin in the Secret of Literature specifies that he is the author of Remainder on its dust jacket. Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I know Tom McCarthy (writer) is the author of the novel Remainder, his Wikipedia article says so.  I asked if he is the same person who writes for the newspaper The Guardian.  Nowhere on Wikipedia nor on The Guardian website does it confirm this, nor anywhere else that I can find. When we cite an article from that newspaper written by the person named Tom McCarthy, I want to know if we should link that newspaper writer's name to the Tom McCarthy (writer) article.  —Prhartcom (talk) 14:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tom McCarthy 

message: The history section seems to have a bias of coverage towards the earlier period (the first 5 years is covered in much greater detail than the last 40!), and lacks any mention that Hergé disavowed the xenophobia and racism of the early comics. I can't work out if this should prompt removal of the material or expansion. I am concerned that the section seems to focus almost exclusively on how right-wing Petit-Vingtième was, which is in turn supplemented by a "criticisms" section that points out much the same thing. Meanwhile the fact that the strip when taken as a whole exhibited a much broader ideological and social perspective isn't mentioned. Slac speak up! 02:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point, Slac. I think the primary editor of the History section was more familiar with the earlier period at the time this information was contributed, and there may be an imbalance of history that may need to be corrected.  Please do feel free to make appropriate edits from reliable sources, removing a bit of the earlier history adding later history.  The Controversy section appropriately mentions the offenses and includes Hergé's mea culpa, but perhaps this should be made clearer, as Hergé clearly disavowed the offenses of the early comics. I can also look at it improving these sections myself.  Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 16:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: Article states "The series was one of the most popular European comics of the 20th century,", but what other comic would even come remotely close to Tintin in wstern Europe ? Lucky Luke ? Asterix ? Valiant ? No I don't believe so. Boeing720 (talk) 23:44, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "Popular" is such a subjective term that it's better not to present it as an absolute. If it was an objective measure, such as "best-selling", then yes - but what exactly does "popular" mean? Maybe people bought fewer Asterix but enjoyed them more. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

text: It was one of the most popular, no one will really dispute this (even though I agree with DavidWBrooks' statement above as well). But as soon as you would change it to "the most popular", people will (correctly or not) start complaining. Each country has its own favourites (e.g. Spike and Suzy in Belgium and the Netherlands also sold 200 million copies, but with less sales spread over more titles of course), and cross-Europe (or across Western Europe), there is no measure to state that it was more popular than Asterix , Lucky Luke, or the Smurfs (as a media franchise at least, purely as a comic it didn't match Tintin's popularity). Sales figures for new Asterix titles are still huge (8 million?). Fram (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who could have been more popular in Europe ? 

message: Hi, people may be interested to comment at the requested move discussion at Talk:Tintin. Thanks, Matty.007 15:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Move notification 

message: The article should probably mention the issue discussed at . --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:30, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you make a fair point Piotrus, this article should include that information. Feel free to create the cited prose in the article yourself if you have all of the sources, or I or one of my colleagues can get to it soon. Prhartcom (talk) 13:28, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy over copyrights 

message: I was surprised to see Mobygames and Sinclair Infoseek used as sources in an FA... they're patently unreliable sources as user-contributed databases without editorial oversight. (See WP:VG/RS.) Those citations should be removed and replaced.  czar 17:26, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess there has not been any response to this. Aoba47 (talk) 12:35, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  , wasn't expecting much (since it's been almost a decade since its last review) but it's more for if/when this article goes through review in the future  czar 17:47, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   Make sense, and I apologize for the random message. Thank you for your response. Aoba47 (talk) 19:44, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

text: I agree entirely. It should be delisted. Midnightblueowl (talk) 17:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable sources 

message: Apart from the unreliable sources, there are also paragraphs of uncited text. This article no longer meets Wikipedia:Featured article criteria. DrKay (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree entirely. It should be delisted. Midnightblueowl (talk) 17:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured article status

message: The The Adventures of Tintin#Exhibitions section starts in 1983. I don't know all that was before then, but I remember there was an 1980 one in Montreal. Google tells me that it was in 1979 and 1980, and the 45-page guidebook for it titled Le musée imaginaire de Tintin. It travelled to Montreal, France, and Brussels, with the dates Exposition tenue au Palais des beaux-arts, Bruxelles, du 28 juin au 28 août 1979 ; 2 autres lieux et au Musée des beaux-arts de Montréal, du 19 juin au 24 août 1980. according to the gouvernment du Quebec; elsewhere I can see it was in Bordeaux October 1-31, 1979 and Paris November 17 to January 4. I'd think that something about this should be added. Presumably there are contemporary references in newspapers of the day. Nfitz (talk) 09:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exhibitions 

message: Hello everyone! I request if someone could please change the profile picture into the first issue cover of the series, because this is a comic series with many issues and placing the very first one is the most appropriate to do so. It also includes the logo, so there shouldn't be any problem at all. Please reply! Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.231.158.189 (talk) 00:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the profile picture 

message: Hergé is made up from the letters R and G,
(Rémi George) wich sound in french: Her Gé 
in English: Air Jae 2405:6E00:248F:FC53:8891:A6E8:2B06:1551 (talk) 14:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hergé's origin