Talk:International Whaling Commission

message: "Since 1986 only Norway, Iceland and especially Japan have been issued with permits, with Japan being the sole permit holder since 1995 as part of their 16-year programme. Norway lodged a protest to the zero catch limits in 1992 and is not bound by them." 
Could someone expand on Norway's legal objection? It sounds like if you protest then you are not bound by the ban and it's OK to whale as far as the IWC is concerned, which doesn't sound like much of a ban. —Tokek 17:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's correct and its just the way things are with international agreements. For example the United States hasn't signed the Kyoto Agreement and so it can pollute like billy-o if it wants. Basically the same deal with Norway. Pcb21| Pete 19:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norway 

message: Would a table of members, describing details such as when they joined the commission, whether they used to or currently hunt whales, and if they are landlocked (and perhaps their overall voting stance), be useful? Andjam 04:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Details about countries 

message: Anyone care to add the four new member countries to the notes section? could´nt figure out how to ( it´s late :) SammytheSeal 21:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding countries to Notes section 

message: Is it wise to add the allegations that whale meat is no longer particularly popular in Japan and even the scientific whaling meat is supposedly difficult to sell requiring various measures such as giving it away for free etc to try and entice customers and keeping whaling alive or is this best left for other articles? Nil Einne 22:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say no, Figures from whale meat stock movements show that whale meat shipped in July 2006 was 1723 tonnes, hardly a small amount... If that continued, demand would outstrip supply ..
Here are some partial figures for 2006 : ( all figures in Tonnes )
March - Stockpile size at previous month end 2898 -Incoming stock 539-  Outgoing stock 827- Stockpile size at current month end 3610 
April - 3610......2920......561.....5969 
May -   5969.......129......357.....5741 
June  - 5741.......163......414.....5490 
July  - 5490.......905.....1723.....4672
Best I can do without knowing how to insert a table - hope it´s legible ;) SammytheSeal 23:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of Japan try to force a whaling industry 

message: I´d like to propose that we split off the yearly meetings onto a separate page - only leaving a brief description and link -it would go a long way towards cleaning up the article...opinions? I´m willing to attempt it anyway. SammytheSeal 19:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and have begun to do so.  Thus far, Ive only created the pages, brought over some text, linked sections to the daughter articles, etc.  Next steps:  1. Put the daughter articles into order (for expansion) and 2. Summarise the relevant sections in the main IWC article.  István 15:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yearly IWC meetings 

message: Excuse me, new to this discussion but the following paragraph could be read to indicate that Canada is not a whaling country, when in fact it has had a long term aboriginal subsistence hunt. Maybe the first line 'Non Whaling nations have expressed similar sentiments', should be removed or anoither example used.
Non-whaling nations have expressed similar sentiments. Canada withdrew from the IWC after the vote to impose the moratorium, claiming that "[t]he ban was inconsistent with measures that had just been adopted by the IWC that were designed to allow harvests of stocks at safe levels."
Where be the truth 11:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegation of politicising science  

message: Whaling is over. With the latest find that bowhead whales live anywhere from 120 to 210 years (sic!), people of the world will turn against those groups that kill these mathuselam animals. The great age of whales is supported by harpoon fragment finds as well as amino acid measurements in eyeballs and study of layerings in the whale's inner ear, the proof is scientifically irrefutable.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6751175.stm
A person who kills a bicentennial giant turtle whould be treated like a terrorist, so why should we take a different stance toward whalers? Especially considering that they kill mammals, which are much closer to humans than turtles. 82.131.210.162 18:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endgame 

message: Hi Vapour, I reverted your edit " unlike formal international treaty " - It´s common in many international treaties. Here´s the IWC comment on it 
"The government or governments that object are not then bound by that particular decision. This mechanism has been strongly criticised as rendering the Commission 'toothless', but without it the Convention would probably have never been signed. In addition, without such a right (common to many international agreements), a government would still have been able to withdraw from the Convention and thus not be bound by any of the regulations." Plus, you are directly contradicting what it says a few sentences later SammytheSeal (talk) 20:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  International agreements 

message: Hi guys, 
Just to bring to your attention the fact that the above was in fact a separate article (although a horribly factually incorrect one, before I made some edits!) 
I then formally proposed the entire thing for deletion -- on the grounds that it was a ridiculously small topic ('*Sites* of IWC *annual* meetings' -- ie only the SITES, and NOT including any intersessional 'special' IWC meetings).
Anyway, apparently the decision was made to 'merge' -- although with respect to the editors who commented on it, I don't think they quite understood the full situation, ie that this 'topic' is nothing other than a *list* at best, AND that we already have a list of recent IWC meetings (which includes their location).
So... Not sure what to do about this now. That was actually my first attempt at nominating an article for deletion, so this is all a bit new to me.
I actually DON'T think the content should be merged into the main article, as this would simply mean extending our present list by another 25 years' worth or so. It still wouldn't be a full list, and that would surely (IMHO!) be an unnecessary waste of space.
Anyone have any input on this? Jonathanmills (talk) 18:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sites of IWC annual meetings 

message: Earthtrust is but one NGO that observes the IWC.  Why does it get first billing in the see also section?  Surely Whaling or one of the pages on controversy is a better first choice?
150.203.35.113 (talk) 14:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I nuked it.  150.203.35.113 (talk) 06:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earthtrust 

message: Effective from 30th June 2013. See http://iwc.int/cache/downloads/dgofwnmucu804cscogswwck04/IWCCCG1063.pdf thus the membership is now 88 parties.  Fromthehill (talk) 11:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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