Talk:Spaghetti junction

message: A clarification: the people near the Golden Glades Interchange informally refer to it as "The Spaghetti Bowl." B.Wind 10:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Golden Glades Interchange

message: Disagree. There are many 'spaghetti junctions' outside the US, and there are many which are NOT known at all as (a) 'Malfunction Junction' Midlandstoday 21:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also disagree, as above. Andy Mabbett 22:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: I don't think springvale junction belongs in this category. It's not really an intersection between multiple major highways, just a very congested / poorly managed intersection of two main roads within a major city. I think it can be removed from this category. 203.11.72.4 06:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Springvale Junction

message: There are several interchanges listed here which appear to be standard stack, stack DDI, Y, parclo, etc. interchanges.  Are we going to permit anything where an editor says "the locals call it 'spaghetti'" or are we going to restrict this to interchanges with a relatively unique characteristic? Items I have issues with are:
*Kreuz Kaiserberg in Duisburg, Germany
*I55 / I90 / I94 in Chicago, IL - 2lvl Stack
*I15 / I515 / US 93 / US 95 in Las Vegas, NV - 3lvl Stack
*E.B. Cloete Interchange (N2/N3) in Durban, South Afrika - 4lvl Stack (assuming I'm looking at the right one, which appears to be the most complicated in the area)
*I20 / I59 / I65 in Birmingham, AL - Stack DDI
--Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 19:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, this article seems to be becoming a list of anyone's local 'big' motorway/freeway junction. Should this be only for junctions actually called 'spaghetti'? At the moment there's junctions on here which haven't even been built yet, never mind earned a nickname. Midlandstoday 19:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I've noted I-55/90/94 to be called the Spaghetti Junction by local media sources, notably WGN-TV. However, other sources (Chicagopedia among them) say the Circle Interchange is the Spaghetti Junction (or Spaghetti Bowl), and I have never heard that in modern usage. Not really sure how to resolve this difference. —Rob (talk) 20:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with excluding standard examples, even if locals think the interchange is intimidating. Some possible criteria for uniqueness I'd offer are more than two roadways in the junction, exits on unexpected sides, braided ramps, collector/distributor roadways, and extra loops. Msramming (talk) 23:31, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of "Spaghetti Junction" 

message: Why hasn't anybody here considered adding the Bruckner Interchange to this list? ---- DanTD 03:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bruckner Interchange]] 

message: It seems to me that the lists of interchanges should be organized better. Right now I can't find any apparent sort method as to where interchanges are mentioned. Also, it would be very helpful if these listings had links to a Google Maps view of the interchange.
As well, it appears that the article Malfunction Junction is a very similar article, and should somehow either be merged into this article, or be properly renamed, to something like "List of Confusing Interchanges in the United States".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katsuki (talk • contribs) 22:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  So, an article originally about a junction actually called "Spaghetti Junction", which then became a list of junctions worldwide known by that name, which then sprawled into a list of every damn junction in the entire world that somebody somewhere considers complicated; should be renamed "List of Confusing Interchanges in the United States"? No. How about deleting off the list all the junctions that no more than about 2 people have ever called 'spaghetti'- hell, I'll do it. Midlandstoday (talk) 15:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization and merges with Malfunction Junction 

message: In Louisville, Kentucky, the junction between I-64, I-65, and I-71 has been referred to as "Spaghetti Junction" since the opening of the John F. Kennedy Memorial Bridge (I-65), which connects downtown Louisville to Jeffersonville, Indiana, in early 1964.  This was long before any journalist in Birmingham would have printed it in the 1970s.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.119.36 (talk) 21:35, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a reliable source to prove this, it can go in the article. -- Dr Greg  talk  22:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the Phrase 

message: I propose this merger because Spaghetti Bowl (transportation) expands on the USA examples in Spaghetti Junction. I would suggest it would be simpler to incorporate Spaghetti Bowl's info into the USA section of Spaghetti Junction and add a redirect from Spaghetti Bowl (transportation) to Spaghetti Junction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Videomaniac29 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems reasonable to me. -- Dr Greg  talk  21:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Disagree. Spaghetti junction is the primary term and I think spaghetti bowl should just be deleted entirely, any relevant facts can be incorporated into there and maybe a one line note added to the beginning of the article but the article is so useless it doesn't deserve the honor of being merged. Just strip it and shut it down 24.136.136.42 (talk) 05:12, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge with Spaghetti Bowl (transportation) 

message: This page seems to be turning into a general list of large motorway junctions. If that's what it's going to be then it should be moved to a more representative title and clear criteria for inclusion should be established. If it is to remain as I think it was originally intended - as a list of junctions called "Spaghetti Junction" or similar - then we really ought to limit it to junctions where there is some form of source to back up their inclusion. At the moment it just seems to be a pointless chaos. JimmyGuano (talk) 07:31, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I don't really see the point of a list of large junctions (and if there were to be such a list you'd need some specific criterion for inclusion). There is, arguably, some point to a list of junctions called "spaghetti", but there should be sources to prove the name, and that's why I tagged the article with  recently. As far as I can tell, only three junctions currently have references to prove this (I exclude the Google Maps references that prove only that the junction exists and make no reference to "spaghetti"). My suspicion is that many of those currently listed here aren't called "spaghetti". There have been many recent additions by a single user , tripling the size of the article over the last month, and I've invited him or her to join this discussion. -- Dr Greg  talk  13:53, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

text: Agree. I will rate as list class and we need inclusion criteria. Widefox; talk 10:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purpose of page 

message: I'm in the process of removing entries that are unsourced or have no indication of being called "spaghetti junction". Many of these are just standard stack interchanges, airport access roads, etc. –dlthewave ☎ 12:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress