Talk:Tyldesley

message: Does anybody think Shakerley warrants a page of it's own? or should I put any info in Tyldesley?--J3Mrs (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would probably be best served as a redirect to Tyldesley... at least for now, until Tyldesley has flourished into something like a Good Article. :) --Jza84 |  Talk   22:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Over on the project talk page I suggested making it a separate article similar to the many areas of Oldham because there's a lot of material about the place. J3Mrs has started the Shakerley article and there does appear to be a lot. Nev1 (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oooops! Yep, just noticed. It's quite good. In which case, yep, it seems like a good move. These small areas can be made quite interesting - Shuttleworth, Greater Manchester and Sholver come to mind :) --Jza84 |  Talk   22:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shakerley 

message: I added some more info to Mosley Common, --J3Mrs (talk) 15:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mosley Common

message: I have an old postcard of Tyldesley posted in 1923. Would that be suitable for uploading? copyright etc???--J3Mrs (talk) 10:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Should be ok for Wikimedia Commons, under this licence. --Jza84 |  Talk   11:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Postcards 

message: Just a nudge that this image is in the public domain (owing to age) and is probably of some use to this article if added to Wikimedia Commons. --Jza84 |  Talk   13:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old photograph 

message: I think there is too much information on Tyldesley Little Theatre to be merged into this article and now it has been improved should remain as a stand alone article.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree the article has been expanded and have removed my merge request, it was only there to keep the information from being deleted, with a view to splitting again at a later date; the expansion has come much sooner than I expected, thanks guys. Carl Sixsmith (talk) 12:14, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Tyldesley Little Theatre]] 

message: There appears to be conflicting foundation dates for the Tyldesley Rugby Union/Rugby League/Rugby Union club, some have it as 1879 some have 1881, does anyone know the definite answer? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:00, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Tyldesley#Rugby union and rugby league|Tyldesley Rugby Union/Rugby League/Rugby Union club]]

message: There are a total of 20 listed buildings in Tyldelsey , . Should some or all of those not currently mentioned be included? The old bank would certainly be worth a picture. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Listed buildings in Tyldesley is now a separate artcle and is linked. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listed buildings 

message: The building at 31 Upper George Street bears the inscription "Technical School 1903". Although it's not a listed building, it seems to be quite an historic one. I see from here  that the site was donated by Rev. G. T. B. Ormerod (apparently no relation of George Ormerod). The cost of the building was "met by public subscriptions raised in the name of the chapel congregation" at Tyldesley Top Chapel. That source also says: "In its early days the school was known as the British school. Later it became a council school, but the chapel continued to receive a yearly rent."  I see that there is no article yet for "British School". But I wonder if the inscription was added later - and why does it bear the date 1903 and not 1902? Should any of the history of the school be added to the article? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:47, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  31, Upper George Street 

message: Although not listed, the Conservative Club at 5 Stanley Street is quite a large historic  building, dating from 1914:  Is it worth any mention in the article? (Curiously, there is also a club of the same name in Blackpool: ) Martinevans123 (talk) 10:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of towns have clubs affiliated to political parties, I don't see this as being particularly notable especially as it isn't listed.J3Mrs (talk) 10:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of towns have churches, many not listed. At least they get mentioned? I am genuinely surprised that a Conservative Club should have outlived the Labour Club in a town such as Tyldesley. The Labour Party Club dated from 1880 and the Liberal Club (which is now the Town Hall) from 1881  Martinevans123 (talk) 10:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Marklands Buildings on the corner of Stanley St and Elliot St is more prominent but doesn't necessarily warrant a mention. You can't include everything and it's hardly comparable to a church.J3Mrs (talk) 11:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's a shame that the Marklands Building isn't there also. I would imagine some political clubs get better attendance than many churches. But I agree they are mostly cultural remnants these days and are mainly of historical interest. Oh well, just an idea. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservative Club 

message: Surely there are also quite commonly-used variants which include the d sound? So I'd suggest adding these:  and . But I'm not sure how often each variant is used. What do other editors think?  Martinevans123 (talk) 17:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: When does a Notable residents section “become necessary” in an article? Only when there are more than one? Or does it depend on the degree of notability? Or something else? I have to admit that one-item lists don’t look very good. But I was wondering if there were some agreed criteria. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very usual for articles on towns and cities to have sections for "Notable residents". Both Jeffery Dench, English Shakespearean actor and brother of Judi Dench, and Lord James Blears, the professional wrestler and promoter, are notable people. That's why they each have an article. I think they should be added to this article, either in a "Notable residents" section, or somewhere in the existing sections. To argue "not everybody born in the town needs mentioning", as suggested by the anon ip in Wakefield, is hardly a very convincing reason to not include. No-one is suggesting that "everybody born in the town" is added to the article. That would be impossible and ridiculous. We are talking about two people. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Trivia. The ip was me, I was logged out. Tyldesley is mentioned in Dench's article. Other than being born there what does it contribute? I'd say nothing. I left the wrestler in and tidied the reference to make it consistent, as his career was in America, I'm not sure a mention contributes anything of value to this article. Notables are mentioned in the text, some with no article but they actually made a contribution, Dench just happened to be born there. Not everybody who was born there needs a mention, that's just trivia.J3Mrs (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for tidying the reference. You're argument that "not everybody who was born there needs a mention" is a complete straw man. No-one is suggesting that they should be. One could argue that everybody "just happens to be born" somewhere or other. It's just a fact, like date of birth. A section on "Notable residents" would be consistent with thousands of other articles. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:29, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles need sections on notable people like a hole in the head. They are magnets for trivia and best avoided. J3Mrs (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: They do have that unfortunate effect, as they attract youngsters who want to make themselves "notable". But omitting the section wholesale, just to avoid the work in removing "trivia", is not a good reason. I think you would be hard-pressed removing the section from the thousands of articles it exists in. At least we've managed to wrestle in one more notable person. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable residents 

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replies: text: Note: the attempted fix for this failed. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:40, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: If a source is re-accessed to check it's validity, isn't it good practice to update the accessdate parameter to today's date? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: How does one tell? Especially if it has no publication date. If I see a source that was last accessed three years ago I often look to check that it is even still there. I might even access to try and determine a publication date? This source says it was accessed only in 2013, but that's no longer true, is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure I understand the first part your answer. The second part seems pretty clear. However do you manage to stay so jolly. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: Why is Ella Toone not on here? 185.238.166.119 (talk) 16:41, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Ella Toone is notable and was born in Tyldesley. But this article does not yet have a section on "Notable people". 86.187.235.35 (talk) 19:21, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toone