Talk:Grace (meals)

message: Every example given in the article where thanking "a deity" is given, that deity is called God. Even the Bahai, etc.  If atheists wish to wash down the meaning they ought to scrub the examples too in order to fully distort the issue.  "Grace", in all examples shown, gives thanks to a primary deity, aka "God".  If editors wish to distort the definition they ought come up with more out of the main stream examples and attempt to pass them off as mainstream, just as the re-defining of what most everyone refers to as "God" into a redefinition of "a deity" does.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.254.40.235 (talk) 04:03, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanking "God" vs. "a deity" 

message: This article purports to be about Grace per se, yet deals only with Christianity. The article is also quite messy and unencyclopedic. --Dweller 14:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to the recent edit, Grace (referring to the prayer) is an English, not a Christian word. The concept exists in many religions, some of which substantially predate Christianity. --Dweller 09:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian POV 

message: Some people who have been given God's grace have stated that the knowledge imparted to them says that God has made everything here on this Earth, and there is a part of God in all things (including all living plants and animals). He has also given dominion of everything worldly to Man to act as the Good Shepherd. For his existence and sustenance Man requires the killing and eating of these living plants and/or animals (which God has made for Man and given him dominion over), and as such Man must give thanks to God for the sacrifice of these living things so that Man can exist and survive. According to some Man must give thanks to God for the sacrifices of other living things so that Man can exist, and this thanks is the "saying of Grace" prior to and/or after eating of any meal.
What the ...? This kind of flourishing writing looks like something taken straight out of a catechism textbook. Anyone got a problem with me removing it, or at least replacing it with a more concise, less presumptuous write?--SohanDsouza (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Thank you - utter bilge, and we are well rid of it.  Springnuts (talk) 21:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purple Prose 

message: Is it common to cross oneself at the end of grace? I know some Catholics (American) who do. The article only mentions the sign of the cross in the context of Eastern Orthodox practice, but these folks all cross themselves, not just the one saying grace, although only the one saying grace says the words that go with it. They also do silent grace when the Quaker branch of the family is present, sometimes omitting the Catholic grace entirely. BookishAcolyte (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crossing oneself? 

message: I can understand that in some cases CE is more appropriate but in an article about prayer mabey AD would be less ambiguous as to who's common era. ~DoubleA  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.239.224.88 (talk) 05:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: AD vs. CE

message: The second sentence 'The term most commonly refers to Christian traditions. Some traditions hold that grace and thanksgiving imparts a blessing which sanctifies the meal. In English, reciting such a prayer is sometimes referred to as "saying grace"' seems like someone's idea, buttressed by a few words from the OED.  I don't know which "traditions" the article is talking about, but the Catholic and Orthodox "traditions" at least distinguish between a blessing and a grace, and do not believe that "grace and thanksgiving imparts a blessing which sanctifies the meal."  The OED does not tell us absolutely what a word means, but rather how it has been used.  To say that grace can be a prayer before a meal might be a usage that can be found, but it doesn't mean that is correct or idiomatic, religiously speaking.  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 23:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  the article reads more like original research 

message: User Dianaa has removed the ancient Greek text of the prayer claiming copyright violations. The Greek text is from 3 century AD, so it does not violate copyright violations.  Also user Dianaa made the whole record of the changes inaccessible from the history. There was no reason for doing so other than hiding the fact that this user deleted the Greek text. I am leaving this to user Dianaa to provide access to the history again and make the Greek text accessible to the readers of the article. 2601:14A:C100:3EE0:FCF4:D72D:CE4B:5937 (talk) 04:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Greek text (3rd century AD) was removed by user Dianaa for copyright violations and the history was deleted as well