Talk:Ionian school (philosophy)

message: I am starting to expand this page, by pasting in one paragraph per philosopher.  Ordering of these philosophers, and dealing with duplication of facts will be dealt with soon.  WhiteC 22:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Ok, feel free to add things, or make comments if you disagree, or can help at all...
* The following individual philosophers' articles need work:
** Hippon of Samos needs an article.  Making a stub would be a good start.
* Precisely define who is included in the Ionian School and why.  It seems to be just people who worked in Ionia or came from Ionia (judging from the list in the original paragraph from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannia artcile), but this should be checked for all philosophers on the list.  (I had added several cosmologists to this list, but this was probably a mistake, I'll list questionables below here)
** For each individual philosopher listed, briefly give link to Ionia: Why should this philosopher be considered part of the Ionian school (born, studied, heavily influenced by, etc)?
** Empedocles might not even belong on this list, unless I can find the link to Ionia.
** Diogenes Laertus same thing, even though he was on the 1911 list.  Perhaps just influence for him?
* Figure out how to deal with cosmology as the main thread linking these philosophers, but to include info about non-Ionian cosmologists.
** For each Ionian philosopher, mention bio, cosmology, and finally other philosophical thougths.  Give each one paragraph.
** For non-Ionian philosophers, mention only dates, areas/schools they were part of, cosmology, and which Ionian philosophers they influenced.  Hopefully, they can have shorter paragraphs than the Ionians :-)
* Make this a category, and include it as a subcategory under presocratic philosophy.
** Add the category to relevant philosophers' articles
Well, that is the list as of now... WhiteC 01:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TO DO list 

message: It just seems to me that having the three articles on the Ionian School, the Ionian Enlightenment, and the Milesian School seems a little superfluous, especially considering the fact that much of the content of the three articles read like quick rehashes of one another. Maybe this issue is one which is slightly more significant to the other two articles, but it would seem to me that either a merger of some or all of the articles or a major reworking to clarify/refine the articles so as to better address the distinct aspects of the three areas of the topic is in order. What does anyone else think?
: Done  - car chasm (talk) 03:59, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Three very similar articles?

message: The page notes that there is no information about Archelaus in the article for that name.  I checked in Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy and he is not mentioned in there either.  King Archelaus is mentioned however.  Also, a philosopher named Arcesilaus is mentioned: he was head of the Athenian Academy at one point and died as an old man in the year 240BC.  Arcesilaus could perhaps be mistaken for Archelaus.
:Here is a link to a page I found when searching for Archelaus  .  I am reading a book "Penguin Classics: Early Greek Philosophy" by Jonathan Barnes at the moment which includes a small bit on Archelaus.  He was supposedly one of Socrates' teachers and a follower of Anaxagoras, so that would put him in the 500s BC, although I can't find any exact dates.  He is a bit obscure, but thanks for your help.  I will get back to this page when I finish the book in a week or 2.  WhiteC 08:06, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point about Archelaus 

message: I think this article should be deleted (see argument above).  Perhaps a case could be made for keeping the first paragraph, and strengthening the second paragraph which refers to the Milesian School--which actually WAS a philosophical school.  Anyway, if there are any disagreements here, let me know before I nominate for deletion.  WhiteC 02:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of Article?

message: Shouldn't be these two articles merged? (Milesian school) They deal with the same theme (at least at the first sight). Petr K 17:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milesian school 

message: There's a decent amount of dialogue (i think) regarding how our first thinkers talked about their contemporaries. I believe even the term "ionian" finds its routes with Aristotle referencing? Regardless, this article in its current state is pointless as stated by others on this page. This page should be dedicated to how, with new eras of modernity, modern thinkers refer to their contemporaries. In conclusion, Aristotle's use of " physiologoi" is weirdly equal to our modern term "Naturalist". This is even stranger compounded with the fact that Aristotle's methods of experimentation were not too unequal with his fairly recent contemporaries, the ionian school. Where is the mention of this conversation??? Major flaw in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarnacle (talk • contribs) 23:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Socratic Thinkers tone when referencing pre socratic thinkers