Talk:List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom

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message: I've removed a couple of entries dealing solely with disappearances of people. For someone to be listed on the page, there must be hard evidence that they were murdered - if a body has not been discovered, there is no evidence/no one has confessed to foul play, and the coroner/police have not officially listed the disappeared person as murdered, then it doesn't belong here. It belongs on the list of people who have disappeared mysteriously
FirefoxLSD (talk) 03:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappearance is not necessarily a murder 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Murdered 18 June 1988. This case is missing from the list.
see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/content/articles/2008/05/14/m50_marie_wilks_timeline_feature.shtml146.198.87.134 (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marie Wilks 

message: I cleaned up the External Links section and in so doing removed one and moved it into the body of the article as an inline citation attached to new content (Janet Rogers, the subject of said external link). Matuko (talk) 20:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links Modified 

message: This article is becoming WAY too long. Needs splicing into (perhaps) decades (certainly after WW2 years). Redirects at header of articles to content of this matter in other centuries and decades could then suffice?--Kieronoldham (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length 

message: I propose that this article be split into List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1990) and List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (1990–present) for reasons of size. --Numberguy6 (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting proposal 

message: Wanted in connection with the 2003 murder of Nottingham jeweller Marian Bates. Police believe he was murdered by a criminal organisation from Nottingham and have searched for his remains at several locations across the UK. One man was arrested and charged for his murder with the crown court later dismissing the case. I think he would be a worthy addition. – 2.O.Boxing 19:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: James Brodie

message: It's a straightforward question. I believe the entry relating to Lyra McKee should be removed from List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (1990–present), as a suspect has now been charged. While obviously the case isn't officially closed until a conviction has been obtained, continuing to include it in the article would set an unusual precedent, namely that every murder in the UK would need to appear in the article until a conviction has been obtained. Any objection to the removal of cases where a suspect has been charged? FDW777 (talk) 20:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there were no objections, I have removed Lyra McKee. FDW777 (talk) 10:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to define "unsolved"? 

message: While I agree that splitting the two articles because of how long they have become is desirable,† I'm not convinced that their entries are also too long on the whole. If the consensus is that they are, I suppose making them more like those in a police database compiled in response to an FOI request could be worth doing, although I do fear that any drastic shortening of the entries would risk leaving some people a tad frustrated about how little info there was on each case.
Length aside, what I think is most important when it comes to the content of an entry is whether it is factual, relevant, and backed up with what appears to be a reliable source, as well as whether slang and language that may reasonably be viewed as biased or emotive are avoided. In these respects, I suspect that there are not very many entries that fail miserably. If they all went that bit further by reading as though they were from an academic journal, they might be better for it, but would the average person find them any more pleasing? It seems doubtful.
†Saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if each article has many visitors who skip most of it not because of length, but because they're only really interested in cases from one or two parts of the country or from a particular era. 81.102.108.42 (talk) 17:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length and tone