Talk:List of shopping streets and districts by city

message: A lot of places on this list seem to be completely arbitary. Take Victoria, Australia for example. Barkly St Footscray? You aren't serious, right? Also, places like Lygon St are infinitely more known for the Italian food rather than shops. Also, Hong Kong; while Mong Kok is definitely a shopping district, I wouldn't call it upscale... it's more like a street market. 
I think the overall value of this article is very low. The good places are totally drowned out by a wash of random locations that might have only one or two shops of note. Ledward (talk) 07:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  define upscale? 

message: Everytime I come back here, I find someone from St. Louis jealous or angry that there is nothing listed from their city. St. Louis DOES NOT have any upscale shopping street or district. They have the Del Mar Loop in University City, but that has NO upscale shops whatsoever. The Plaza Frontneac is a mall not a district or a street and so is the galleria. Washington Avenue barley has ANY shops whatsoever, and has nothing on the scale of Fifth Avenue, Michigan Avenue, or the Country Club Plaza in Kansas City. As someone who was born in Kansas City and goes to college in St. Louis, I can attest to this. The Plaza Frontneac is the closest thing St. Louis has to fitting this criteria, and it is a mall, which means it can't fit this criteria.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.147.154 (talk) 14:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Louis 

message: This is a list of upscale shopping areas. It takes more than just 1 Saks Fifth Avenue to make a mall, district or street upscale. This list is already rather leniant with malls that have just an LV and Tiffanys listed. Similarly, Fifth Avenue is not the most expensive shopping district in the world, nor even the US. --Sarasote 22:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Upscale Shopping Areas

message: This article has gotten large and expanded outside the scope of the title: leading districts and streets. For this reason, I would suggest separating it. For example, Ginza and Galleria Vittorio Emanuele do not belong in the same category. Ginza is a district and the Galleria is a large mall.
:Maybe it should just be called something like 'list upscale shopping areas', so we can include every type.
I disagree with breaking up the article it is more valuable as a single article. Give it time to develop. -- Stbalbach 16:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split article to dab page

message: I would argue that places like Galena Street in Aspen, Colorado would also fit the bill for upscale shopping streets even though they are outside of the major cities. Galena St in Aspen has Louis Vuitton, Christian Dior, Prada, Gucci, Ralph Lauren (Not Polo), Fendi, BVLGARI, etc situated along it or on the adjacent streets. But based on the comments above, I figured I would get someone else's opinion about something like this. Upscale shopping streets don't have to just be in the major cities. (I do agree that enclosed suburban shopping malls DO NOT belong on this list...) jtowns 19:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Upcale Shopping Areas outside the major cities

message: How did Shibuya make the list? Please explain what stores in Shibuya are upscale? Even the department stores there are not upscale at all. Ginza I would say is upscale, but Shibuya, I just don't see it at all -ChristopherMannMcKay 01:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 15:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan

message: I'm going to specify on "Uptown Houston" as it has to seperate shopping areas.--68.201.118.165 20:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Houston, Texas section 

message: I'm going to disect the lead: 
# ...leading upscale shopping streets and districts...:  Wiktionary's definition of upscale is "marked by wealth  or quality; high-class".  This means expensive fashion houses – the likes of Dior, Gucci, Hermès, not H&M and Zara. 
# Multiple small designer boutique stores, fashion houses, and/or purveyors of luxury goods...: The keyword here is multiple.  One store on a street does not make it eligible. 
# ...doors and windows facing the street: This means no shopping centres, malls, etc.
# located along the designated street throughout a large section of the city, or are clustered closely together in a well-defined neighborhood or location within the city: The first means that a street that's only a block long is not eligible.  The second means that if there is a collection of such short streets, they must be well-defined, i.e. there is a commonly-used name for the area.
# In a typical city, there is only one leading shopping street or district...:  This means one!  A city of around one million should have one, or at most two.  A city of less than half a million would be lucky to even have one.  
# The largest cities ... may have more than one leading shopping street or district...: Obviously the big fashion cities will have multiple streets on this list.  Big cities of over 3 million will likely have three or four.  
So, now that I've broken it down, there are far too many discrepencies to mention.  Most of the cities shouldn't even be on the list.  I'm going to remove streets/cities that don't correspond to what has been written in the lead.  In addition, I think that lesser-known streets that have redlinks should be removed also, but I'm open to persuasion.  I will leave them for the time being. If it seems that the article is just a sea of red, I'll bring it up again.  Oh, and I haven't even started on references.  But that's for another post.  ConorBrady.ie (caint) 17:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This list is totally bloated and is a disservice to Wikipedia readers. There should probably be no more than roughly 20-30 roads listed. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 15:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has gotten out of hand – major overhaul! 

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message: Khaosan Road is not an upscale shopping street. It is for backpackers and cheap counterfeit goods. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 18:56, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khaosan Road no thanks 

message: Palermo is a huge area, and not everything in it is upscale.  Puerto Madero, OK. Recoleta, OK. Florida Street is for tourists and has street vendors selling handmade trinkets. Avenida Santa Fe is very mixed. Avenida Alvear I don't know about. Córdoba Avenue  is also very mixed.  We need more clarity. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 19:00, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  BA 

message: "Leading" according to whom? This entire list seems completely arbitrary, indefensible on encyclopedic grounds, and should probably be deleted ASAP. --89.0.240.226 (talk) 17:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  define "leading"? 

message: So, clearly, we could not pare down this list to truly the highest-end shopping streets, meaning only around 20 or 30 in the world, so I removed from this list any mention of "luxury" and now it is not such an embarrassment. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 19:06, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: SOLUTION

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message: I noticed that the article distinctly lacks the areas of Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan. Those are very important places. Why are they missing?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LemonBoiii (talk • contribs) 14:25, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong, Macau, and. Taiwan 

message: It seems the criteria for inclusion may benefit from clarification. How about;
*Outdoors not indoors (not covered and not enclosed),
*Public not private (lifestyle centers?),
*Notable areas satisfying notability with a Wikipedia article,
*Retail not just commercial
? 2A00:23C7:6496:6C01:3D06:D05A:AE01:FB48 (talk) 22:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criteria for inclusion - notable outdoor public retail areas