Talk:Alice in Wonderland syndrome

message: There is some suggestion, unsubstiantated, that certain ingredients of cough syrup may help cause micropsia. 
Your damn right it does. Anyone who has ever taken a high dose of Dextromethorphan knows that it can cause visual distortions which may make objects seem smaller, or bigger. Of course these are effects from taking doses of Dextromethorphan that are far out of the medical dosing range. --Arm
:That's funny, because yesterday I just experienced this after taking a dose of cough syrup. I wonder if it was just a coincidence. I've also had this happened to me many times in the past. Aurora sword (talk) 04:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that you are correct. Try to see if you can find descriptions of micropsia or AIW in PubMed. Not that AIW is necessarily a disease, but the medical literature might have info and stories. Jclerman 20:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cough syrup 

message: Alice in Woderland Syndrome is neurologica condition, encompassing, micropsia (ethimologically "small sight"), macropsia ("big sight), distorsion of body parts and of time.
There are nevertheless ophtalmologic causes to micropsia, like macular or corneal oedema http://www.springerlink.com/index/X22427718J127L83.pdf, http://pn.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/3/3/178-a
It looks like this article is based on , and written by someone who had little understanding of the subject at hand, and did little research past summarizing this confused web page.  
5 min later: I edited out the mix between AiWLS and micropsia, and creeated a micropsia article.Zorbid (talk) 11:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice in Wonderland Syndrome is a general term. 

message: Lilliputian hallucinations, a psychological symptom of Delirium tremens. However, there is no mention of delirium tremens here. (Glossary_of_psychiatry#Lilliputian_hallucinations does mention lilliputian hallucinations in the context of delirium tremens, but only as a brief definition of the term) Could someone add a mention to this? Ged3000 (talk) 19:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a brief comment at signs and symptoms and provided a  reference. Regards, CycloneNimrodTalk? 20:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lilliputian hallucinations/Delirium Tremens 

message: I could have sworn this also happens sometimes in children around the ages of 4-8 or so, and then goes away as they get older. Actually I thought that was the one of the more common ways people have it.--75.95.95.227 (talk) 06:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I read in an old issue of Annals In Pediatrics that this syndrome occurs mainly in younger children,  around the ages you mentioned.  This has been the case in my experience, although I diagnosed it once in a 16-year-old girl.--Beezer137 (talk) 23:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Some years ago I got an email from a narcoleptic subject, college student, that under severa emotional stress developed AIW acutely and transitorily. In particular, she went for a drive and saw the little beings in front of the car. I've had one or two AIW during dreams. Jclerman (talk) 01:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not linked with age? 

message: It read "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome is usually short lived and does not require any immediate treatment. Treating the underlying cause (usually migraines) results in the syndrome disappearing."
It's unsourced and lacks factual accuracy imo but also could lead those who come to wikipedia (wrongly) for medical advice to think there is no reason to see their G.P. AIWS could be a sign of infection by EBV. 
Perhaps a causes section would be more useful than a prognosis section for what is a transitory perception disorder?  Cheers, Nk.sheridan   Talk 22:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note you shouldn't refer to us as "you", as it wasn't a single person who wrote this article. You have acknowledged some mistakes, perhaps you could fix them? Cyclonenim :  Chat   11:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please use the word "yous" or "y'all". Also, Cyclonenim, perhaps since Julcal made you aware of the errors, you could, rather than acknowledging that he could fix them, fix them yourself? ;) Just kidding mate,--74.166.60.24 (talk) 02:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of prognosis section

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When i was a kid and a teen I often had the sensation of things became big and small and big in a fast cycle for 5 or 10 minutes stopping suddenly as it came. I didnot remember anything that provoked it, and i never feared it, because I kwew it would stop, nor headache. Of course i tried to sit down but sometimes I walked, it was funny. I also had strage sensations when i fall asleep, sometimes i awaked with the sensation that i was not breathing, or sometimes I awaked but i can't move, sometime i had the sensation my body was flying but i couldnt move. I hadn't sufferend those cycles of macropsia/micropsia any more since long time ago but flying sensation happens to me time after time when I'm pretty stressed  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.179.143.198 (talk) 10:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I did suffer from this 

message: Isn't it a kind of delirium? E.g. caused by infection.217.114.191.154 (talk) 19:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delirium 

message: Two references that were not being used, moved here. - 203.158.37.9 (talk) 22:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  References removed from main page 

message: Seriously, no 17-year-old that i have ever met talks like the quote referred to in source 15. if a medical professional has paraphrased the 17-year-old then fair enough but it should not be in quotation marks. i read the source that it came from and there are several odd grammatical errors in it such as "a 20-years old male" - this suggests to me that despite its appearance of a legitimate and respectable website, it may not be. 2.24.142.38 (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  How trustworthy is source 15? 

message: In the first paragraph I'm not sure what this means: "Size distortion may occur of other sensory modalities." If I can't understand it the same is probably true for others. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉  21:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is oddly phrased. They may mean distorted proprioception, where parts of the body become rubbery and seem to shrink or expand.2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:9994:CCF2:8340:3E40 (talk) 12:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Unclear

message: It definitely is, and hypnagogia is heightened by fatigue, that is also true.2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:9994:CCF2:8340:3E40 (talk) 12:20, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypnagogic phenomenon 

message: Hello.  I am currently assigned to this article for a class and I will be editing it within the next few days.  It looks like there is a lot of good information here, but the article seems to have gotten a bit disorganized over the course of editing.  Using the Asperger Syndrome article for reference, I intend to streamline this article's subheadings and generally format it more closely to Wikipedia's manual of style for medical articles.  For now, I'll just be altering the heading names, with more substantial edits later on if these heading changes are acceptable.  Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 15:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the link for the old page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_in_Wonderland_syndrome&oldid=945865451 Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Edits 

message: The literary references felt a bit out of place under the causes section.  I moved it to the Society and Culture section for now, but I'm open to adjustments to this if there is a better option for placement. Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 16:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving sections 

message: The signs and symptoms section has some good information, but it seems a little scattered.  On that note, I'm going to create several subsections to organize the various symptoms a little better and separate them from other general information in that paragraph.  Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 16:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganizing Signs and Symptoms 

message: Earlier on the talk page, a few people seemed confused by the wording of the lead.  I will be revising this section for clarity to the best of my ability.  I will also be revising the signs and symptoms section, as this section seems to repeat the same information at different points.  If anyone thinks these edits need to be altered or corrected, I'll be linking the old version of the page below.  Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 15:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the link for the old page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_in_Wonderland_syndrome&oldid=945865451 Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continued edits 

message: To the best of my ability, I have finished going over the entire article sentence by sentence for general grammar, flow, and tone.  This was completed in two separate edits, and I will link the previous version of the article here if anyone thinks my edits need to be revised or previous wording needs to be retrieved.  The link is here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_in_Wonderland_syndrome&oldid=946200601 Best regards, OKtamu (talk) 15:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Edits 

message: Hi there, also currently assigned this article for a class and will be updating and proposing edits in this area. 
[ ] Complete any missing citations
[ ] Medications & diet referenced for treatment
[ ] Expand s/s section 
[ ] Expand P1 last sentence to guide what article will cover
CA & MH 7/28  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAngerman (talk • contribs) 21:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations II 2020 group 1 proposed edits 

message: Hello,
I'm pretty much new at doing anything on Wiki but I wanted to let anyone interested in this subject know that
there's now a pretty comprehensive source available about Alice in Wonderland syndrome.
It's the book "Alice in wonderland syndrome" by Dutch professor Jan Dirk Blom, from Leiden University.
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030186081
I have a copy of this book. It has a good overview of the things that can happen to someone suffering from this condition,
and it talks about some real life cases too, even featuring a patient describing an episode in detail.
Essentially, it's a summary of everything that's currently known about AIWS.
Sasbom (talk) 15:40, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heads up on a good source for expanding this article 

message: -Consolidate and expand on symptoms from different sections under Section 1 Signs and Symptoms
-Complete missing citations
-Expand on Treatment section with medications and diet
-Add to the Diagnosis section and restructure for better flow
-Add a Classification section regarding a common classification for AIWs and AIWS-like symptoms found in literature
-Add citations for and reorganize Prognosis section to improve tone and writing style
ReevA.LUating (talk) 21:56, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations II 2021 Group 1 proposed edits 

message: The group's edits have significantly improved the article, with the addition of sections (ex: anatomical reaction), and the extra details added to the treatment and prognosis sections. The overall goals for improvement were met since a substantial amount of information was added and the article is more well rounded than it was prior to being edited. The edits are mostly all written with a neutral point of view since I cannot guess the perspective of the author by reading their writing. The second half of the sentence in the Causes section "Because Alice in Wonderland syndrome is not commonly diagnosed and documented, it is difficult to estimate what the main causes, if any, are." has a little perspective in it, and could be edited by taking out the "if any, are". Yubmoon (talk) 16:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goals 

message: (a) Our group has reviewed all the references and that they are now correctly formatted.
-ReevA.LUating reviewed citations 1-20
-NAbuGharbiyeh reviewed citations 21-36
-Atompkins1 reviewed citations 37-56
(b) 
- None of the references were identified as predatory sources 
- #43 and #53 were identified as unreliable; the texts and citations were removed from the article 
(c) 
-Tliu.ucsf reviewed all citations for duplicates and compiled all call outs in the text
ReevA.LUating (talk) 20:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations 2 2021 Group 1 Citations