Talk:WJW (TV)

message: When GusGus moved the page to WJW-TV, and Hinto reverted that, we lost the edit history on WJW -- it is still attached to WJW-TV. Could we perhaps delete WJW and move WJW-TV back as to have easy access to the edit history again? --Andy Janata 19:29, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit History 

message: Anybody know whatever happened to Jim Hale?  I've seen him in some Youtube clips from the 70s.
Mjlarochelle (talk) 01:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Hale 

message: === Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material ===
Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in articles. Including this type of material in articles does not abide by current consensus and its inclusion is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:
#WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information."  As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.  
#As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced. 
# WP:Source list tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article. 
#Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.
If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable.  Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). If a preexisting article is already in the encyclopedia for the person you want to add to a list, it's generally regarded as sufficient to support their inclusion in list material in another article. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 22:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable on-air staff, former employees and titles/slogans

message: Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in articles. Including this type of material in articles does not abide by current consensus and its inclusion is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:
#WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information."  As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.  
#As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced. 
# WP:Source list tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article. 
#Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.
If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable.  Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). If a preexisting article is already in the encyclopedia for the person you want to add to a list, it's generally regarded as sufficient to support their inclusion in list material in another article. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 22:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material 

message: Please see Talk:WEWS-TV#Staff for relevant discussion on how to handle information on past and present station personalities.   Levdr1lp  (talk) 22:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WEWS-TV relevant discussion 

message: Hello, I have removed the staff and former staff that is/was not notable. In order for lists of people be included, they must meet the criteria listed at WP:LISTPEOPLE. This isn't the first station article this has been discussed on, and articles have been protected to prevent these additions, or the editors in question blocked when they persistently continue to reinsert inappropriate material. If a name is included in the article in this way, it has to show that it's relevant to the subject by meeting WP:LISTPEOPLE. Just because a station lists its employees doesn't mean Wikipedia needs to as well, and other station articles needing similar cleanup doesn't mean this one doesn't need to be cleaned up, because whenever it's actually discussed on a station article, the end result is the same; the names that don't meet WP:LISTPEOPLE are removed. Wikipedia is also not a directory.
A list of previous discussions are listed below:
* Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television_Stations/Archive_9#Arguments_for_Excluding_.22Where_Are_They_Now.3F.22
* Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television_Stations/Archive_10#Current_on-air_staff_list_discussion
* Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television Stations/Archive 9#Alumni (and current staff) Lists
A current discussion is taking place here.
Thanks, Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 00:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable on-air staff and titles/slogans 

message: As discussed elsewhere (for example Talk:WZTV), unless reliable sources can be provided that show that a schedule or list of times and programming has relevance to the encyclopedic coverage of the station, they do not belong on the article. If reliable sources do not make note of the importance of such things, the article should not either. Sources mentioning in passing that news comes on at a certain time does not show that it is relevant. - Aoidh (talk) 04:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a difference between putting out a full blown schedule/listing, and merely mentioning (with a reference) that WJW airs 70+ plus hours of news per week, and that it's more than any other station in town.  It's important to the article as WJW quite obviously revolves around their newscasts and puts them front and center above all else...it's what makes them them. User:Vjmlhds (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing there that legitimately violates WP:NOTDIR, all it does is mention two (sourced) facts about WJW's news operation that are important to the article as to explain why WJW stands out...more newscasts than anybody else, and only news chopper.  There's no breakdown of time of newscasts (i.e. "WJW airs news at 4a, 5a, 6a" etc), or news anchors, or reporters or anything else.  Just most newscasts in town and only news chopper...that's it, and that's all. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why you believe that schedules must be "full blown" schedules in order to be inappropriate, but editors have been indefinitely blocked for continuously reinserting that same exact type of content, so you are mistaken in that. Further, you claim that "it's important" (everyone who wants content in an article makes this claim), but that means nothing if reliable sources don't reflect this assertion. Further, if you're going to accuse someone of edit warring, it helps if you don't immediately follow up by continuing to edit war to reinsert inappropriate material afterwards. Despite your edit warring, the content will not stay in the article short of a consensus that says otherwise. Content is not placed into an article by persistently edit warring until it stays, it is placed in an article by consensus and discussion. - Aoidh (talk) 20:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the controversial content not only from this article, but also all Cleveland stations as well.  However, I feel the need to say that in my opinion, the arguments against this particular content were at best nitpicky.  And I also don't appreciate being threatened with a block (be it overt or implied) for something that really isn't a legitimate offense.  Nevertheless, the content has been (albeit reluctantly) removed to avoid a bigger ruckus down the road. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning schedules 

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message: With Dick Goddard continuing his animal segments, even if pre-taped, doesn't that mean that he's still part of the station, regardless of his retirement from meterological duties? Mapsax (talk) 11:49, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumnus status for Dick Goddard 

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