Talk:Goa'uld

message: By the way, isn't "Most Goa'uld are evil, egocentric megalomaniacs who pose as Lords or Gods to control armies." blatantly POV? After all, one man's 'evil, egocentric megalomaniacal blasphemous parasite' is another man's 'freedom-fighter'. —wwoods 01:21, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking as one who campaigned against the phrase "the evil Decepticons", I have to agree. I'll edit it to specify which people consider them "evil" - those who worship them presumably don't, for the most part. Bryan 03:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: POV?

message: Sometimes the distinction between parastism and symbiosis is blurry. The Goa'uld do provide some very significant symbiotic benefits - long life and health for example. The "only" parasitic aspect is that they enslave you - of course, it's a big "only". If they took over creatures that were not intelligent, we might not consider it so parasitic. Some human servants of the Goa'uld, particularly servants of system lords, have shown eagerness to become hosts, despite presumably knowing what life would be like for them. Presumably, the semi-vicarious lifestyle holds appeal.--RLent 18:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Goa'uld are considered parasites because they override the hosts mind in control. For most freed hosts, they basically said it was a living hell and prison. This is opposed to the Tok'ra, which are true, non parasitic symbiotes. Goa'uld are also considered cultural and technical parasites, as that, unlike the other races including the Tok'ra, who develop a majority of their own techonolgy, the Goa'uld primarily steal technology. 71.36.204.207 (talk) 22:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parasitism vs. Symbiosis

message: Not sure it is a copy vio. Could someone check on it?  Thanks :) Dlohcierekim 15:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new image 

message: someone changed the pic of the Symbiote to a pic of Tanith. well i dont mind if it isnt changed back, but this article DOES need a pic of the actual goa'uld species in its actual form. so the pic should be reinserted somewhere. -- Alfakim --  talk  23:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was changed by a new contributor. I'm not usre of his judgment. I think it's a copyvio, but I'm bnot sure.  :) Dlohcierekim 00:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 'twasnt a copyvio, but it probably needed fair use tagging. i'd like to see that image back again, but i cant find its path anymore. -- Alfakim --  talk  16:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pic 

message: Anyone know of a website correlating Goa'uld to the insignia that their jaffa wear?  For example, Teal'C's insignia (or "brand" or whatever) signifies that he was in the service of Apophis.  What about the other insignia? TerraFrost 09:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. See Talk:System Lord--Alfakim-- talk 14:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any reason those icons can't be added to their respective Stargate character templates? TerraFrost 08:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goa'uld insignia 

message: I know in the series the lived for a very long time but do they eventually die from old age ? (Gnevin 17:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Contrary to that, at least one symbiote died of natural causes. Selmak. We can't say that they live forever. In fact, I doubt they would last very long without a host or stasis unit (We've seen symbiotes die from exposure in a matter of minutes. I'm sure that the sarcophagi not only regenerate the host, but the symbiotes as well. I'm more inclined to believe that, with consistent host shifts every 190-200 years, the symbiotes can live naturally for around 2000-3000 years. I say this because Selmak, was the last surviving of the Tok'ra born of the progenitor symbiote, Egeria. Given that Selmak is the last of the first, and Egeria was lost around 2000 years before present, it's probably best to say that 2000-3000 is the natural limit of a symbiote with host.71.36.204.207 (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ra was 10,000 years old... He took his host in 8000BC in the Stargate movie. Itchy Flea (talk) 07:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: How long do they live ?

message: Has it ever been explained why/how the host's eyes sometimes glow?  --Dr Archeville 23:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In or out of universe? JoshuaZ 00:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Either.  (Other than "Because it's a cool-looking visual effect that the audience can 'ooh' and 'aah' over," of course.)  No one's ever said (on the show, comics, novels, or RPGs) something along the lines of "the Naqahdah in Goa'uld's body combines with certain proteins in the sclera of the host's eye and adrenaline released during periods of agitation to create a photonic effect," correct?  --Dr Archeville 04:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd say that's more of a "when," but that's just me  ;-)  --Dr Archeville 04:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Glowing Eyes

message: Through the entirety of the show, We have been told of the increased physical strength of a Goa'uld Host and many times, it has been explained as being something that is greater than the average Human. Well, how much greater? There has been occassions, where we have seen how strong they are, but in terms of superhuman strength and such, they do not appear to be in possession of such a level of strength. They have been seen, knocking over a full-grown human, but no further back than 5 feet at the most; been seen breaking through a pair of plastic binding cuffs; choking a doctor, before brutually breaking his neck( a la Major Kawalski), and occassionally lifting and throwing someone a small ways, away from them. the Ashrak, was show to be able to knock aggressors around like bean bags, and do enough damage with a knife, to make most foresnic experts cringe at the sight and details.
By definition, how is this superhuman strength? Granted, they are stronger than the average Human, due to the control the Goa'uld symbiote, has over the muscles and muscular contractions, and whatnot, giving the Host improved strength and whatnot.  They seem to lead us on, trying to make us think, that because of the control of the Symbiote, that the Host is now faster, stronger and much more tougher than the average Human. I mean, come on; the Wraith, are much more stronger, faster, and tougher than the Goauld.  
We've seen a Wraith leap upwards to impressive heights, and survive falls of the same distances; knock people around as if they were paper dolls; move so quick, that the dots representing them on a tracking screen, appeared in one spot for a second, before appearing on another part of the screen, a great distance away; seconds later, and we've seen them take a full clip of a P90 and then some, to the chest and torso, without crumpling over; only to recover seconds later, ready to rip you another hole.
So, seriously; is the physical strength of a Goa'uld,along with other supposed other greater physical improvements; that much above Humans, for it to be considered superhuman?  I have yet to see a Goa'uld punch through a solid wall; move fast that the heroes have a hard time keeping track, and leap upwards and in any directions far beyond Human capability, and survive long falls, and land on their feet.  if this has happened, i must of missed, because that would be something, that would convince me otherwise, of how much stronger a Goa'uld Host, is; in comparison to the average and not-so average Tau'ri.
celestialphoenixreborn
*Uhh.....what does that have to do with this article?  What you have posted is a whole mess of original research, none of which can be included in the article per Wikipedia policy.  That post would be better suited for Gateworld Forums, as the talk page is not the place to discuss the show in that fashion. Gamer83 13:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of the OR nature, the argument is for saying that Goa'uld do not have "superhuman" strength.  "Super" comes from Latin for "above", and human, we already know.  Do Goa'uld have superhuman strength?  If they have strength anywhere above what the host originally had without the host, then it's superhuman strength.  Just because there are stronger or more powerful aliens out there does not change the fact that Goa'uld are stronger than humans, and thus have superhuman strength. Any other definition of "superhuman strength" would require subjective attitudes to be introduced, and thus cannot be considered.  If you want to add something to the article saying something along the lines of "Despite the Goa'uld giving superior strength, speed and survivability to the host, there are other aliens out there that are stronger."  Well, that's just plainly appartent, and not really necessary to the article either. --Puellanivis 19:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Argument of the physical strength of a Goa'uld Host

message: I remember in one episode that supposedly Egeria was the "queen", in a hive-sense, of the Goa'uld and Tok'ra species, correct?  Is there an exact name for this type of species that is defined by its serpent-like appearnce?  I think it would be worthy to mention that in explaining the origins of the Goa'uld and Tok'ra sense they're really one and the same.--Waxsin (talk) 22:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Description as a Species

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Goa'uld in water.jpg

message: The key episode was not the movie, but the pilot of the series. In the movie there were no Goa'uld (it was not said, what the god Ra really is). Anyone of the same opinion? So we should change this in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.184.196.50 (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Key episodes 

message: The Goa'uld language is a pretty non-notable language, even if it is part of a notable show. I am unaware of any reliable print sources, and I only remember that Peter DeLuise said in one of the audio commentaries that he is the one who made it all up, and that he's got a list of the lanugage in his drawer (this may be a false memory). Since Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and since I couldn't find a wiki page listing e.g. all Klingon words, I am pretty sure the lower part of Goa'uld language should be removed entirely. I am unsure about the upper part, so instead of taking this to AfD, I propose to merge the rest of the article into Goa'uld and wait until someone else cleans up this article. The other option is to take Goa'uld language to AfD nevertheless. Comments or corrections before I go ahead with the merger? – sgeureka t•c 15:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I merged the upper part of the language article, and marked it as possible original research. It will need sorting through and trimming in the future. The dictionary part is still available in the page history, so if someone wants to move it to wikia:Stargate, he is free to do so. – sgeureka t•c 11:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of [[Goa'uld Language]] 

message: In the movie it is shown to be very obvious that Ra and his "assistants (be they humans or minor Goa'uld)" are believed to be gods by the abydonians due to their mask/helmets (e.g. Daniel's "look upon your gods" scene, and the way that Ra wore his mask in the execution scene. Not to mention Ra clearly wearing his mask on one of the wall paintings, ect. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? --Tutthoth-Ankhre~ The Pharaoh of the Universe (talk) 02:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ahem? The masks? 

message: "They are one of the dominant species in our galaxy with the Nox and the Asgards among others.".. I'm not sure if you can call them dominant in our Galaxy. As far as we know the Nox are not well known in the Galaxy and only occupy one planet, and the Asgard are in a different Galaxy entirely. Would anyone mind if I got rid of this bit? Jedi Master Bra'tac (talk) 23:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed this bit as it is incorrect. The Nox control only one planet that we know of, and the Asgard are in the Ida galaxy. Itchy Flea (talk) 09:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Asgard and Nox dominant species in the Galaxy?

message: At what point does this get proven: "One of the main strategies of the Tok'ra is to play the System Lords against one another, so that no single one of them becomes too powerful to topple.[33] They are responsible for enforcing the Protected Planets Treaty amongst the Goa'uld of the galaxy.[16]"
I do not recall the episode mentioned as citation mentioning that the Tok'ra enforce the protected planets treaty.
I will watch this episode to see if and when this is mentioned, and if it is not mentioned, I will removed this section of text for being unreliable. Itchy Flea (talk) 09:21, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected Planets Treaty 

message: I removed the line " It has been shown that the Tollan have a means to remove the symbiote allowing both the symbiote and host to live." as this is incorrect, in the episode referenced the Tollan asked the Tok'Ra to remove the symbiote and did not do it for themselves.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertcocaine (talk • contribs) 18:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Goa'uld from hosts 

message: It means "Butt-Wool"
"Goa" means buttocks in Tabaru.
"Uld" means wool in Danish.
Wool around the butt of a sheep attracts PARASITIC flies like the botfly, blowfly, and screw fly to lay eggs and infect that area with their larvae. Otherwise known as flystrike or myiasis.
The "Goa'uld"  are a PARASITES!
So beware of those with wooly butts...
"Butt Wool" is a fitting name for an antagonist with the "cheeky" humor we know exists in the show. 98.11.50.184 (talk) 21:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goa'uld Meaning