Talk:Kill Hannah

message: ::It's beyond an editor's purview to make judgments about the motivation behind the activities of the subject of the article. Factually, they made a large appearance in a video made by three extremely popular musical artists. Similarly, other articles include information about collaboration between artists. I don't know as that it's much of a pivotal moment, but it does seem to elevate their status, especially in terms of exposure. You raise some interesting points though, so it seems even more appropriate to have this entry in the article since it appears to be a potentially controversial move made by the band. Also, trivia isn't supposed to be removed -- it should be integrated into the article in an organized fashion. (see also WP:TRIV). If anything, the item should be more tightly integrated into the body of the "other activities" section of the article. Can you think of any other reasons why the item shouldn't appear, other than the WP:POV items that you mentioned above? Patrick925 22:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's your opinion. The yappeared in it, it's reportable, cited and encyclopedic, it's written in NPOV style, and your continual removal is POV-based. 75.3.112.64 01:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They did not star in the video, They have nothing to do with the music or vocals in the video. They were hired as extras same as everyone else in the video. It is not encyclopedic.Aladdin Zane 12:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you know that they were hired? Seems to me that this could be inserted into the article by changing this sentence; "Kill Hannah signed with Atlantic Records in late 2002, while being managed by Steve Hutton, Kid Rock's former manager. Kill Hannah has since parted company with Hutton."  To something like this; "Kill Hannah signed with Atlantic Records in late 2002, while being managed by Steve Hutton, Kid Rock's former manager (the band later appeared along side Kid Rock in the Ludicris/R. Kelly/Kid Rock video for the song "Rockstar) Kill Hannah has since parted company with Hutton."  Patrick925 16:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

text: They may not have been hired, They may h ave just been unpaid extras in the video, a lot of extras are. Bottom line is, there is a reason their name isn't on the video. R. Kelly, Ludacris and Kid Rock actually performed on the song and in the video. Kill Hannah was just in the background (in less than 30 seconds of the 7 minute long video), and that's if you add it up 1 to 2 seconds at a time as a member appears here and there. If they actually played on the song it might have been noteworthy. If there was a section on here including there videos. But there isn't a section, and even if there was Kill Hannah did not contribute as music artists to the song or video.Aladdin Zane 23:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

message: their best song? tell me what you think, im adilghanty
(UTC)Correction. I found two songs crediting K. Finnerty. They are, "Nerve Gas", and "The Trains are So Loud". If that is correct, A. Morganstern has more songs co-credited to him than K. Finnerty. If there is source material that states otherwise, please provide it. --PatrickR
Found one more. "A New Medicine" which makes three. The same number as A. Morgenstern. --PatrickR
I added a POV tag to the Finnerty section. I believe that it is currently sourced enough that it doesn't require this tag, but I think people should discuss the repeated anonymous edits which bias the article. --PatrickR
I also have "A New Medicine" credited to her. --Joe
Thanks Joe. This was added and cited about a month ago. --PatrickR
Clearly Patrick R has no clue on how to not only spell Finerty's name nor understand the history of her.
His contributions to this is inaccurate as well as favoring Devine. The information provided by him is not fact.
I have provided citations for the song writing credits. I'm not sure how the article is favorable to Devine other than the fact that he is the creative force and leader of the band, and naturally the article would discuss his accomplishments. Following Wiki policy, my additions and edits have met the criteria for verifiability. (as well as Wiki guidelines for civility on discussion pages). I have repeatedly requested that people discuss this article instead of blanking sections (a Wiki policy violation) and vandalizing sections that are unfavorable to subjects of the article. I have also added a netrality warning to the Finerty section, and invited people to discuss. The goal here is to improve this article with verifiable information, and all of the article meets that. If there is incorrect information that can be verfied, improve the article and sign your name to your edits. 
Patrick925 20:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: lips like morphine

message: Dose anyone know why Garret left the band? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KHislove (talk • contribs) 15:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I heared he had a baby. Well not him but his wife.. or.. something. Just a guess from something I heared. CHeck out their myspace and their blogs. It might say something about it. (216.120.198.130 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: Kinda seems that way. And I'm not emo-bashing, I'm just wondering if that should go under the Genre label. Kingoomieiii 01:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They also have a bit of Dreampop influence in some of their songs (and played with many local Dreampop/Shoegaze bands), but I don't think it would warrant that label (let alone provided sources for that tag).JanderVK (talk) 06:11, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are they emo? 

message: Do not reinsert unsourced, derogatory material about living persons. FCYTravis 00:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed section 

message: Alright, so I've gone ahead and cleaned up the article a bit. There was a lot of excess information and useless lists. For example, we don't need a list of every band they've ever toured with, nor do we need a list of how many remixes people have done of their songs. Likewise, I removed the section that just listed all of the stuff the band members had done that was unrelated to the band itself. I also streamlined the Discography section a bit, as well as the band members section. For example, birthdays are not something that is needed in a band article. But above all else, you NEED to remember that Wikipedia is not a fansite. It is a place for concise information about the band, not detailed accounts of everything that's happened to them, or every last release they've put out. Try to keep it to the more important stuff. If you have any issues with the edits I've  made, please address them here first, don't just revert them outright. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 21:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In all honesty, that was a mistake on my part. I think that, in converting the discography to a table format, a few things were lost in the move. I'll be sure to go back and add those back when I can. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 23:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Cleanup 

message: "The Beauty In Sinking Ships" was NOT released in 1996.  It came out in 2000.  It was RECORDED in 1996.  It mostly comprises of the sessions Mat did with John Hughes' son, among a few other sessions.  Only 100 CDR copies were pressed.  This information comes directly from the band themselves. 
http://web.archive.org/web/20000303115838/http://www.killhannah.com/contents/merch/merchandise.html
- IGR.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.184.104 (talk) 01:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
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