Talk:James M. Gavin

message: The German page is remarkably longer and more informative than this!  Is there any chance we can translate it?  (And by "we", I mean "someone else".  I don't read German.)Phiwum 19:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone translate it, please stop at beginning of WW2 period. I'm working there at the time, so u would have to translate again if i changed the part. Regards, John N. 12:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're doing a terrific job. I would just caution you slightly that this is an article about General Gavin, not the exploits of the 82nd Airborne Division in WW2. A lot of the combat history can be condensed in this article or cited by reference to articles such as Operation Husky rather than being repeated here.  DMorpheus 16:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I've just added some bits that can be condensed. Will finish translating this section then remove the bits without gavin's exploits. The German bit looks like they just copied a lot of the book?--MarcoLittel 17:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German article 

message: Dumping this here prior to translation Andreas 10:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved to Talk:James M. Gavin/German text. -- John N. 12:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German text 

message: I've searched for Images of Gavin for several months and found an collection at http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usamhi/ (Research Catalogs → fill in "James M. Gavin" → several hits, e.g. "photograph collection"). The Army Heritage & Education Center is located at 950 Soldiers Drive, Carlisle, PA 17013-5021. I would order the stuff but the only way to receive it is to take a look at Carlisle for it, which is impossible for me. Would be great if someone could do it for me, or find someone else to do it and to ask for, wheather the stuff is in the PD or the GNU FDL. Regards, John N. 12:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I'm confused by the statement that Gavin put on his application for West Point that he was 21, not 18, since he was too young to apply. Most applicants to West Point are, in fact, 17 or 18 years old. George B. McClellan was accepted at West Point at 14 in 1842, with our article on him stating "the academy having waived their normal minimum age of 16." Currently, "Each candidate must:  be 17 but not yet 23 years of age by July 1 of year admitted."  So, I don't see why being 18 would be a hurdle. --Habap 15:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a statement I mistranslated from the German Wikipedia page of General Gavin. Fixed, thanks for the pointing out.--MarcoLittel 16:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Age on arrival at West Point

message: Hello!
In the section about Operation Market Garden, last sentence of the first paragrafe:
"Next to the Airborne divisions, the British XXX Corps was to advance along the 'Corridor' to their objective - Arnhem."
Their objective was not Arnhem, but the Zuider Zee to the north of Arnhem.
Ref:
http://rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR775/MR775.chap8.pdf
Page 104.
RoySgtscoutsout (talk) 13:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  XXX Corps' objective 

message: Did he run for president, or was he the subject of a draft movement to run?  A pin on ebay suggests one or the other. Шизомби (talk) 01:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidential run? 

message: From 'Along the Merderet'... 
"destroying several tanks on the La Fière causeway." Who did the destroying - the German armoured force, or the US bazookas and anti-tank gun? Unclear (to me) as written - but I don't mean to undermine the great work of the previous writers with my feeble pedantry. Notreallydavid (talk) 01:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguity in text 

message: I tip my (British, non-military) hat emphatically to the members of the inaugural Gavin Squad. Not all awards are worth having - theirs certainly is. None the less, I think their names are a little tangential here. Does anyone agree? Notreallydavid (talk) 02:10, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not sourced, so feel free to make it go away.  Even if it was sourced, it's a bit WP:COATRACKish to me.  Rklawton (talk) 02:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hate me 

message: The article cuts off abruptly between Sicily and Normandy, and then says nothing about what Gavin did in Europe after Market Garden. Also, confusingly says that Market Garden was his first combat command. Jonathanwallace (talk) 03:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And weirdly the article avoids all mention of the 82nd's participation in the Battle of Hurtgen Forest in February 1945 (when the battle had already been going on hopelessly and at staggering cost to the US Army since September 1944, with twelve US divisions chewed to pieces for no gain) or of Gavin's trenchant post-war comments in his memoirs on the complete futility and pointlessness of that battle. Can't think why. Gavin was the only divisional commander to question the rationale of the whole thing, which is much to his credit, whatever may be said of his philandering or his critical failure to take the Waal road bridge at Nijmegen, the principal divisional objective in Market Garden. The article claims that 'The 504th took the bridge,' but they didn't. They took the rail bridge hundreds of yards downstream and were still moving along the bank when the tanks of the British Grenadier Guards took the road bridge.  Khamba Tendal (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Another quibble: the infobox picture supposedly shows Gavin, in general's uniform, in '1964', when he was a civilian some years retired from the army, and the model missiles behind him are 1950s equipment -- the thin one is clearly the Corporal, a 1952 weapon that was being retired by 1964. Khamba Tendal (talk) 17:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Quibbles

message: Would an interview with transcript with James Gavin from 1986 be useful here as an external link? Focus of conversation is nuclear weapons policy. http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_B940FAB835CD4977B414E2EE27D1013E (I have a conflict of interest; otherwise I would add it myself.) Mccallucc (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  external link? 

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