Talk:1906 Intercalated Games

message: ; Paris, 1900 : During the World exposition; games lasted from may 14 until october 28.
; St. Louis, 1904 : During the World's Fair; games lasted from july 1 until november 23.
; Athens 1906 : No longer official, making dates a bit less accessible; games possibly lasted from april 22 until may 2.
; London, 1908 : During the Franco-British Exhibition; games lasted from april 27 until oktober 31.
If the description on the page is insufficient, we could include more of this to clarify.
Aliter 16:38, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Riiight, I assumed the decade in question was 1896-1906.  I'd never heard of the Franco-British Exhibition (1908).  I've referenced it on the 1908 Summer Olympics page and clarified this (1906) page accordingly. Joestynes
Worded a bit milder, and a pity we lose the decade as a periode, but much clearer, yes. Thanks. Aliter 19:40, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Decade

message: The word "intercalated" is neither linked nor defined in this article. Also, the definition wiki provides is absolutely inadequate to explain what it means in this context.
: I've linked to Intercalated Games, which does a bit better job of explaining it. — Jonel | Speak 02:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Term Intercalated

message: The 1906 games also saw the first separate Irish team compete in the Olympics. The squad of three men travelled at their own expense from ireland to Athens to represent Ireland, but at the last minute were incorporated into the British team. When Peter O'Connor won silver in the long jump, he quickly ran an Irish flag up the flagpole during the medal ceremony. The Irish tricolour had yet to be designed at the time, so the old green 'Éireann go Brágh' flag was used. Permission to add this to the main page, and rectify the medal count accordingly? eiscir 18:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: There is a tag on the article saying "It has been suggested that this article or section be merged with Intercalated Games. (Discuss)" but I cannot see any such suggestion or discussion anywhere.  Am I in the wrong place?
*For the record, I vote No.  Scolaire 23:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am keeping the articles separate, but moving some sections (such as what happened in the 1910 and 1914 Games) over to the main (Intercalated) article.  --Leviel 10:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Intercalated Games?

message: This part: The silver medal for the team from Smyrna and the bronze medal for the team from Thessalonica in the football event were won by ethnic Greeks competing for Greece, despite both cities being Ottoman possessions at the time. is a complete mistake. Smyrna didn't win the silver, Thessalonica didn't win the bronze, and in Smyrna team there was not a single Greek (in fact there was not a single Turkish person too). --Jakas1 (talk) 12:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football teams 

message: It's a sad day when people believe that "Olympic Games" only refers to the IOC Olympic Games. Notably excluding the original Ancient Olympic Games and the first modern revival of the Olympic Games that were sponsored by Evangelis Zappas. Neither does "Modern Olympic Games" exclusively refer to the IOC Olympic Games. Nor can they since the Olympic Games sponsored by Zappas includes the Athens 1896 Olympic Games. It's funny that isn't it. The men who paid for the Olympic Games of 1859, 1870, 1875 and 1896 (including Konstantinos Zappas and George Averoff) are ignored and a French Baron who put in zero funding in to the Athens 1896 Olympic Games, and who wasn't the IOC President at that time, gets all the credit. Thanks to so-called "consensus" opinion. Nuff said. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 13:21, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not the "consensus" opinion, that is the fact. When people today hear of the Olympics, they either think of the ancient games or the modern IOC games. It's doubtful that more than a couple of thousands actually know of the Zappas Olympics, and both in common usage and scholarly usage, the latter are always distinguished as being different from the IOC games (since, well, they were different in nature, and lumping them together is like saying that apples and oranges are the same because they both come under the heading "fruit"). You don't like it, we get it. This does not give you liberty to push your own opinion however or make edits in articles or talk pages solely to make a point. Constantine   ✍  20:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice to know that the Ancient Olympic Games is included in "Olympic Games". However, Zappas did fund the 1896 Olympic Games too and so did his cousin Konstantinos Zappas. So Zappas funded 1859, 1870, 1875, and 1896. Oops, the Zappas series of Olympic Games is longer than consensus opinions. Moreover, when the Greek government, through the crown prince, asked George Averoff to pay for the second refurbishment of the Panathenaic stadium. They did so knowing full well that Evangelis Zappas had fully funded the refurbishment in marble forty years earlier. It's a shame that consensus opinion doesn't recognise his contribution. Meanwhile, Baron Pierre de Coubertin financially contributed nothing whatsoever. The IOC President was Greek at the time too. Crown Prince Constantine was running around like a lunatic making sure that everybody was happy both behind the scenes as well as in front of the scenes. But ofcourse, those nice people with the consensus opinions are always right. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Constantine, your argument is devoid of logic. People may "think" that the modern games are only the IOC ones, but that doesn't mean they are correct. You used the irritating phrase "that is a fact" to support your contentions. The "fact" is that Zappas is responsible for several MODERN Olympic Games before the IOC came into existence, and also for the first Games after the IOC came into existence. And in this article, we have a case of a modern Games that were originally recognized by the IOC and then un-recognized. Again, that doesn't mean the IOC have some magic powers to determine what is and what isn't a modern Olympiad.69.196.140.226 (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus on "Olympic Games" 

message: The article doesn't say why the IOC originally recognized these games and now does not. (Incidentally, I was laughing to myself last night when I watched the London 2012 opening ceremony. Everyone kept talking about London being the only city to host 3 Olympics. Even if they had the nerve to specify "modern" Olympics, they would still be wrong. Athens has hosted 4 pre-IOC and 3 post-IOC games, making a total of 7. But this is aside from the point.)69.196.140.226 (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why has the IOC stopped recognizing them? 

message: What medals are Norway assigned in the medal table? In this they only claim 2 golds and 1 silver. According to a different non-english source the golds are Gudbrand Skatteboe (who took three golds according to Wikipedia and no golds according to sport-reference) and the team in gymnastics. 85.167.111.129 (talk) 13:10, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norway in the medal table 

message: It would be great if someone can write (here and/or in the article) why the medal table is how it is, and why it is so different from the table on sports-reference.com Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 17:51, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The total numbers of medals in the article are: 78 (gold) 80 (silver) 78 (bronze),  236 (total). The numbers on sportreference are 74, 76, 74, 224. So 12 medals less. But on the other side, in the medal table on sport-reference the "mixed team" has one more silver medal. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 09:44, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: 12 extra medals in wikipedia = 4 extra shooting events. So wikipedia counts 16 events in shooting and 78 events all, sportreference counts 12 events in shooting and 74 events all. Extra shooting events in wikipedia is follows:
Free rifle, 3 positions			
Free rifle, prone      			
Free rifle, kneeling   			
Free rifle, standing   			
As for second difference: wikipedia give sliver medal in football to Greece, sporreference to Mixed Team. Nitobus 15:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal table (2) 

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message: There was only ever one Intercalated Games, in 1906. Intercalated Games is an unsourced article, and 1906 Intercalated Games is better sourced, so makes sense to merge into the better quality article Joseph2302 (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. It's a recurring event that didn't recur, and any info that doesn't already fit in with the 1906 Intercalated Games article could probably be summarized in a section at the end ("Fate of 'Intercalated Games'" or something). Mcrsftdog (talk) 21:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

text: Support.--Arorae (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

text: Klbrain (talk) 01:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Intercalated Games]] into [[1906 Intercalated Games]] 

message: Currently this article says:
"Participating nations
854 athletes, 848 men and 6 women, from 20 countries, competed at the 1906 Intercalated Games.[1] "''
The article " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_at_the_1906_Intercalated_Games_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_singles "
lists 8 women competing in the Women's Singles Tenis competition, so there would appear to have been at least 2 more.
jg (talk) 00:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There looks to be 3 walkovers in the tennis, so maybe they're not being counted (as they didn't actually compete)? Joseph2302 (talk) 09:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  In general (throughout all Olympics pages), competitors is meant to not include those who did not actually compete. (As with a lot of things, implementation is inconsistent.) The women's singles tennis page should be corrected. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 13:02, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Count of female athletes