Talk:Dance of the Vampires (musical)

message: How about a seperate article for Tanz der Vampire? I've created a redirect page already, but the multiple productiosn mean this page is getting a bit clustered? What do people think? If there's no objections in a week or so I'll make the changes. The JPS 15:29, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm dragging this point up again. In my mind, Dance is a version of Tanz. Unlike all the other non-German versions, Dance isn't a straight forward translation. I think this article should make that clear. Maybe it's a good idea to split the article in two: a Tanz article with the basic stuff (plot, characters, various versions) and a Dance article that explains that it is a completely reworked version, lists the changes, reasons why it failed, etc. Thoughts? Evil Nickname (talk) 08:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would certainly support the split. To me, the situation is akin to a "remake" of a movie, perhaps a remix of album.  Given the numerous differences in both the two shows and the reactions to them, separate articles are, in my opinion, warranted. --Agamemnon2 (talk) 10:19, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to advise against splitting the article.  I understand that fans of this particular show consider the English version sub-par, but it's still the same show.  Placing them in separate articles implies that the productions were so radically different that they can't be considered the same material, which, as far as I can tell, is not the case.  There were some drastic differences, but it's nothing dissimilar from what a show like Chess (musical) went through.  If the article ever reaches a point where it becomes too large to contain both versions, then we can re-address the issue.  Furthermore, keeping them in one article makes it a little easier to address the differences between the versions, as well as an analysis of what worked and what didn't and the various critical reactions.  —  MusicMaker5376 17:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tanz der Vampire 

message: I've just seen the Warsaw production and I swear a song in the second act was largely identical with the song Little Bombardier that David Bowie sang back in the 60's.  I realize that for this musical Jim Steinman recycled some earlier work of his own, such as Total Eclipse of the Heart.  Is the Bowie song also one of Steinman's?  Does anybody know what the connection is? — Stumps 18:15, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bowie's Little Bombardier connection 

message: I just removed the synopsis as it was taken word-for-word from http://www.old-hickory.demon.co.uk/synopsis.htm, which is a copyright violation.  If anyone would like to contribute a new synopsis, feel free to use that page as a reference, but please use your own words.  —  MusicMaker5376 20:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis copyvio 

message: Should this article really be under that category, when it's only the Broadway version(that's hardly even the same show) that flopped? The majority of the time Tans der Vampire is a success. Mazz0626 (talk) 13:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Theatrical Flops?

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message: Hello to all -- I'm the person who wrote most of this article's section on the American version, including the infamous heading "Casting Crawford, 9/11, and other disasters" (no, I'm not the one responsible for changing it back, and the first thing I'll do is revert that to its replacement when I get past this sticky wicket).
I am also the co-host of a forthcoming podcast entitled A Good Nightmare Comes So Rarely which dives deep into the circumstances surrounding the show, its creation, and its failure on Broadway. As part of the podcast's production, I've had the opportunity to interview several of those involved in both its developmental and final phases, including John Caird, who directed the reading and departed the project following its 9/11-related postponement. He read this article to fortify his memory before our interview and had a bone to pick with me about my characterizing Jim Steinman as co-directing the reading. Both John and one of the cast members of the reading deny that that was the case, John going so far as to say that he would have dropped out of the project far sooner had that been insisted upon (not out of ego, to be clear, but for the reasons of Steinman's implausibility as director cited in the article itself). He implored me to edit the article to reflect the reality of the situation.
Now, everything in the article that I wrote does have a source; Jim absolutely announced himself as co-director on more than one occasion, and that was also reflected in a Variety article regarding Michael Crawford's hiring, all of which -- I believe; it's been a bit -- are cited. However, I also want to honor John's wishes, as reflected in an as-yet-unpublished interview. How do I handle that citation, assuming I can? Backoffbugaloo (talk) 19:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question of proper citation re: fact correction 

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Per lack of participation, uneligble for moving as unopposed per RMTR objection. WP:NPASRNPASR. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 21:13, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Dance of the Vampires (musical) →  – Swap the two pages (WP:SWAP): Tanz der Vampire is the WP:COMMONNAME for the successful worldwide musical, the english "Dance of the Vampires" production failed and is not renown Raladic (talk) 17:38, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 May 2023