Talk:Rio Tinto (corporation)

message: * key shareholders (doesn't seem to be any, largest instututional shareholder in 1999 held less than 4% of stock).
* environmental issues.
* labor relations.
* political issues.
--Robert Merkel 03:05, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Key remaining points to tackle

message: The are more than dual listed, they are also on the NZX (New Zealand Exchange) under "RIO" code,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.3.3 (talk) 01:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spotted an error in the article

message: Isnt Rio Tinto also listed on the NYSE under RTP?
RTP = Rio Tinto Procurement.  This is a purchasing & contracts division of Rio. -Bernard S. Jansen 00:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: RTP in this context stands for Rio Tinto plc, the British company, and these initials are used to distinguish the company from RTL, Rio Tinto Limited, which is the Australian arm.Mlb409 22:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: RTP

message: "Another has been Rio Tinto's involvement in Papua New Guinea which triggered the Bougainville separatist crisis." ... is this from the company profile under 'external links'.? Citation please.   Fred 16:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation

message: I have left the last the last editor a message and an opportunity to respond, before I revert. - Fred 12:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your message.  I have started two new topics to allow discussion of my main deletions.  Mlb409 21:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: deletions etc.

message: A press release describing the agreement between Ascendant Copper and Rio Tinto is available at the time of writing at http://www.ascendantcopper.com/pdf/06-14%20RTZ%20Joint%20Venture.pdf.  A careful reading of this document indicates that the agreement relates to the purchase for $50,000 by Ascendant Copper of the right for five years to examine geological and other data collected by Rio Tinto between 1990 and 1997.  The agreement does not commit Rio Tinto to any further expenditure in Ecuador nor does it commit Rio Tinto to make investments in any property identified by Ascendant Copper as being worthy of further investigation or development.  Consequently the description which I removed (“Rio Tinto and Ascendant Copper announced a joint exploration program for exploring copper in western Ecuador”)  is inaccurate.  I make no comment on the ethics or otherwise of Ascendant Copper but I would have thought that such comments should be placed on a page relating to that company. Mlb409 22:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of Reference to Ascendant Copper Corp.

message: The alleged shipments of copper to Germany in 1937-38 are discussed in David Avery’s book “Not on Queen Victoria’s Birthday: the Story of the Rio Tinto Mines” (Collins, London, 1974, p.378)  He reports that investigations by the Burgos government and subsequently by a subcommittee of the Rio Tinto board indicated that no such shipments had taken place.  It is certainly true that large tonnages of pyrites were requisitioned by the Nationalists and were shipped to Germany “despite the protests of the company”.  In case you view that history as suspect (being commissioned by Rio Tinto), another source is Charles Harvey’s excellent book “The Rio Tinto Company” (Alison Hodge, Penzance, 1981) where more detailed data on the requisitions, together with the manner in which they were carried out, can be found.  A reading of this material indicates that the situation was quite complex.  The text I deleted gave a misleading (by being overly simplistic) description of actual events, as well as being inaccurate (pyrites were shipped to Germany, not copper).
Mlb409 21:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of Reference to Franco’s Purchase of German Bombers

message: The Rio Tinto espionage case article is very outdated and has insufficient information for an article of that complexity. Likewise, the Stern Hu article has too much information not related to the biography of Stern Hu, but directly related to the Rio Tinto espionage case. Both articles are extremely outdated. I would appreciate any help in improving those 2 articles. Capital Markets (talk) 12:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rio Tinto espionage case

message: I ran across this while working on Corta Atalaya, might be useful here: Riotinto, la Colonia de la Vergüenza, El Mundo Magazine, Issue 101, 2001-09-02. - Jmabel | Talk 01:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Another possibly useful source

message: I red across the article and did not find any mention to this sad event. The wikipedia in Spanish contains enough info about it, maybe it could be a starting point to add some facts about the killing of tens of workers during a strike.
--79.147.18.156 (talk) 20:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Involvement in the 1888 massacre

message: Article here:   Gandydancer (talk) 22:38, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Environmental concerns 

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message: There are some key areas on the Rio Tinto Group page requiring an update with more recent data and information. Requesting that the Wikipedia community look at these updates, noting the COI guidelines. Please discuss here or on my talk page. 
Update table: Subsidiaries | Principal subsidiaries (at 31 December 2015) listed on page 159 of the 2015 Annual report 
Update table: Summary of 2008 Production | 2015 data available on pages 213-216 of the 2015 Annual report
Update section: Operations | Current organisational structure outlined on pages 32-39 of the 2015 Annual report, including overview of four main product groups - Aluminium, Copper & Coal, Diamonds & Minerals, Iron Ore.
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message: The current map, accompanying the article describing the activities of Rio Tinto, shows the position of (Southern) Rhodesia, whereas Rio Tinto's first activities were in Northern Rhodesia (Zambia). The map should be corrected accordingly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klipdok (talk • contribs) 16:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Updates to the “Rio Tinto Group” and “Corporate status” sections (multiple references): 
* Remove references to coal, following Rio Tinto’s sale of its coal assets
Sources:
https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/rio_tinto1/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=507&newsid=1131451
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/180801_Rio_Tinto_completes_sale_of_remaining_coal_assets.pdf
Updates to the “Management” section:
* Change the Melbourne office address to 360 Collins Street, Melbourne
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/aboutus/contacts-3561.aspx
Updates to the “Board of Directors” section
* Change reference to the chairman from an executive director to a non-executive director. Rio Tinto’s chairman Simon Thompson is an independent, non-executive director.
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/aboutus/simon-thompson-10171.aspx
* Change the chief financial officer from Christopher Lynch to Jakob Stausholm. Jakob Stausholm was appointed Rio Tinto’s chief financial officer on 3 September 2018
Sources:
 
https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/rio_tinto1/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=507&newsid=1052632
http://www.riotinto.com/aboutus/jakob-stausholm-26077.aspx
* Add Moya Greene as a non-executive director on Rio Tinto’s board. Moya Greene joined the board in September 2018.
Sources:
https://quoteapi.com/resources/13e5b55c7ed21634/announcements/rio.asx/3A491925/RIO_Rio_Tinto_board_update.pdf
http://www.riotinto.com/aboutus/moya-greene-26116.aspx
Updates to “Operations” section:
* Update business structure/headings under this section to reflect Rio Tinto’s business structure, which includes four product groups (Iron Ore, Aluminium, Copper & Diamonds and Energy & Minerals), as well as the Growth & Innovation and Commercial groups. This update would ensure consistency throughout the Wikipedia entry – the product group structure currently listed under “Corporate status” is correct.
Sources:
p.2, 2017 Annual report, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* Remove reference to coal, following Rio Tinto’s sale of its coal assets
Sources:
https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/rio_tinto1/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=507&newsid=1131451
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/180801_Rio_Tinto_completes_sale_of_remaining_coal_assets.pdf
* Production figures are a decade old. More recent annual production figures are available from Rio Tinto’s 2017 Full Year results announcement or its 2017 Annual report.
Sources: 
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/180207_2017_full_year_results.pdf
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
Updates to “Copper and byproducts: Rio Tinto Copper” section:
* Remove reference to Northparkes. Rio Tinto sold Northparkes in 2013.
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_8942.aspx
Updates to “Aluminium and related products: Rio Tinto Alcan” section":
* Change references to Rio Tinto’s Aluminium product group from “Rio Tinto Alcan”, to simply “Aluminium”. This would ensure consistency within the Wikipedia entry regarding the business structure. The structure listed under “Corporate status” is correct.
Sources: p.40 Rio Tinto Annual report 2017, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* The main areas in Aluminium listed are out of date. Rio Tinto’s Aluminium operations are divided into three main areas – bauxite, alumina and primary metal.
Source: p.40, Rio Tinto Annual report 2017, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* Suggest adding mention of major aluminium industry announcement - Rio Tinto and Alcoa announced the world’s first carbon-free aluminium smelting process.  
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_25362.aspx
* Suggest adding mention of major aluminium industry announcement - Rio Tinto first to receive Aluminium Stewardship Initiative certification
Sources: 
https://aluminium-stewardship.org/aluminium-stewardship-initiative-issues-inaugural-chain-of-custody-certification-worlds-first-asi-aluminium-now-available/
http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_25171.aspx
Updates to “Coal and Uranium: Rio Tinto Energy” section:
* Remove and/or update references to coal. Rio Tinto has completed the sale of its coal assets
Sources:
https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/rio_tinto1/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=507&newsid=1131451
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/180801_Rio_Tinto_completes_sale_of_remaining_coal_assets.pdf
* Rio Tinto Energy is now called Energy & Minerals. Suggest updating to ensure consistency throughout Wikipedia entry.
Source: pp.2 & 3 2017 Annual report, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf 
Updates to “Diamonds: Rio Tinto Diamonds” section:
* Remove reference to Murowa Diamonds. Rio Tinto has sold its interests in Murowa Diamonds and Sengwa Colliery. It now operates two diamond mines: the Argyle Diamond Mine in Western Australia (100% ownership), the Diavik Diamond Mine in the Northwest Territories of Canada (60% ownership)
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_15358.aspx
* Remove or update reference to the Bunder project. Rio Tinto gifted the Bunder diamond project in India to the Government of Madhya Pradesh.
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_21110.aspx
Updates to the “Rio Tinto Iron and Titanium” section:
* This section has confused Rio Tinto Iron and Titanium (RTIT) with Rio Tinto’s Iron Ore business. These are separate, and are part of two different product groups. Rio Tinto Iron and Titanium (RTIT) produces high-grade titanium dioxide feedstocks, and is part of the Energy & Minerals product group. Rio Tinto’s Iron Ore product group supplies iron ore.
Source:
pp.2 & 45, 2017 Annual Report, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* Update where the company’s major iron ore operations are located. Rio Tinto’s major iron ore mines and development projects are located in the Pilbara region of Western Australia
Sources: 
http://www.riotinto.com/iron-ore-158.aspx#australia
p.38, 2017 Annual Report, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* The Iron Ore Company of Canada (IOC) is part of Rio Tinto’s Energy & Minerals product group. IOC produces iron ore concentrate and iron ore pellets.
Sources: 
http://www.riotinto.com/energy-and-minerals-162.aspx
p.45 of the 2017 Annual report, http://www.riotinto.com/documents/RT_2017_Annual_Report.pdf
* Remove reference to HIsmelt. HIsmelt is no longer part of Rio Tinto.
Source: https://www.metalbulletin.com/Article/2879253/Rio-Tinto-sells-HIsmelt-plant-to-Jindal-Steel.html
* Move information about titanium dioxide to the Energy & Minerals section. Titanium dioxide is part of Rio Tinto’s Energy & Minerals product group, not the Iron Ore product group.
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/energy-and-minerals-162.aspx
* Update 2013 reference about plans to establish a fully automated railroad system. In July 2018 Rio Tinto achieved the first delivery of iron ore by an autonomous train in the Pilbara, Western Australia.
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_25824.aspx
Updates to “Environment” section (under “Criticisms”):
* Clarification regarding Rio Tinto’s ownership/involvement in Grasberg. Rio Tinto currently has a right to 40 per cent of production above a pre agreed level and 40 per cent of all production after 2022 (it does not own a 40% stake in the Grasberg mine). 
Source: See notes to editors in this media release, http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_26148.aspx
* In October 2018, Rio Tinto announced it had signed a binding agreement to sell its entire interest in the Grasberg mine to Indonesia’s state mining company, PT Indonesia Asahan Aluminium (Persaro) (Inalum). 
Source: http://www.riotinto.com/media/media-releases-237_26148.aspx
Michelle at Rio Tinto (talk) 02:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Some proposed changes

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The items listed under the Sun and the Moon's information are incorrect. For example, the Sun's diameter is incorrect, as is the Moon's. This needs to be changed to their correct figures. Please see the references below for information on the updated figures.
 
 
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Please add the following sentence to the first paragraph of the article's "Sun and Moon" section:
The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles, while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles. The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.
Please add the following sentence to the first paragraph of the article's "Sun and Moon" section:
*The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.[3]
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Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  Spintendo  06:54, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 26-OCT-2018

message: :(Some of the changes have been incorporated and have been marked with a strike-through) – Þjarkur (talk) 14:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: @Michelle at Rio Tinto – I have incorporated some of the proposed changes (but not all since I just didn't have time) and have done a strike-through to the ones I've made. The edit request had been marked as finished before your answer, but I have now reopened it. You can also see the many subdivisions that have their own article here, you might want to create an edit request so that those articles also get updated (and that their title gets updated). – Þjarkur (talk) 14:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The article uses CS1 but I only see plain links here. Also the use of  is not evident. I thank Þjarkur for their assistance, and I'll reiterate that I'd be happy to review the request if it were placed in the correct citation style with the page numbers delineated. I'm not prepared to carry out extensive rewrites of the article's citation style myself—including inserting that style along with the correct page numbers for each and every ref tag which appears in the article — a process which would take at least an hour. The COI editor — who is paid to edit the article — needs to perform this work themselves and then present it here so that it may be reviewed and placed into the article by a reviewer. Michelle has been informed of this requirement twice since October, now makes it three times. As I said earlier, when ready to proceed with the requested changes, kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience. Thank you.   Spintendo  22:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Some proposed changes

message: * https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/26/rio-tinto-blasts-46000-year-old-aboriginal-site-to-expand-iron-ore-mine
* https://www.smh.com.au/national/blast-destroys-one-of-country-s-oldest-known-aboriginal-heritage-sites-20200526-p54wmt.html
* https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-26/rio-tinto-blast-destroys-area-with-ancient-aboriginal-heritage/12286652
John Cummings (talk) 20:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Australian Archaeological Association (AAA), which deplored the destruction, the company was within its legal rights.  The AAA noted that the significant finds were made subsequent to the ruling that allowed for the destruction. There was no re-consideration. https://australianarchaeologicalassociation.com.au/news/loss-of-juukan-gorge-rockshelters-pilbara-region-western-australia/?platform=hootsuite&fbclid=IwAR2aGvyHOXXsJD66yP-2sOmvknN1MXrOa2hc_S-B2NhrUOFyosBaFnM857E Kdammers (talk) 10:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rio Tinto blasts 46,000-year-old Aboriginal site to expand iron ore mine 

message: Rio Tinto Group is an Anglo-Australian multinational and the world's second largest metals and mining corporations
Isn't it a corporation? Not corporations?
Canberranone (talk) 07:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 08:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  question. 

message: Mining giant Rio Tinto has apologised for blowing up 46,000-year-old Aboriginal caves in Western Australia dating back to the last Ice Age.
The Juukan Gorge caves, in the Pilbara region, were destroyed last Sunday as Rio Tinto expanded an iron ore project agreed with the authorities.
Many prehistoric artefacts have been found at the remote heritage site.
"We are sorry for the distress we have caused," said Chris Salisbury, the firm's iron ore chief executive. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-52869502
Peter K Burian (talk) 13:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that it should be included. Dormskirk (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It is already covered in the article so no need for repetition. Dormskirk (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't the CEO just resign over this? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 09:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  THIS needs to be in the Wiki article  

message: I and others have been adding bits to this article, the section on Juukan Gorge in the Hammersley Ranges (the redirect target at the moment), and at Australian Aboriginal sacred site. As this incident and its ramifications are likely to continue for a while, I'm thinking that maybe it needs its own article where one main source of the detail can be maintained, with just a brief summary paragraph from each of the other articles. What do people think? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: p.s. I've posted the same thing on all three talk pages, but am suggesting that discussion is probably best kept in one place - here, as there are other discussions with links there that could be useful. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:25, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already quite a bit of material both here and at Hamersley Range. Is it not possible to build on the existing material in either or both these articles? The scandal has had a major impact on Rio Tinto and I would have concerns if the Juukan Gorge section in the Rio Tinto article was reduced to a small summary. That said I would not have a difficulty with a new article if it focuses on the geography and history of Juukan Gorge (which I agree could do with expansion). Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Juukan Gorge main coverage

message: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/24/a-year-on-from-the-juukan-gorge-destruction-aboriginal-sacred-sites-remain-unprotected John Cummings (talk) 00:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - I suggest adding something to Australian Aboriginal sacred site from this article. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guardian: A year on from the Juukan Gorge destruction, Aboriginal sacred sites remain unprotected 

message: Most of the lucrative mining projects are no longer in hydrocarbon extraction, as the world demands "clean" technologies, and thus lithium, nickel, cobalt, rare earths, but also copper extraction is soaring. The definition of "green" is to be discussed, and the same discussion is going on in seminars and corporate meetings. We can't have everything, on the one hand, we dislike Serbia's affiliation with Russia and the "bad guys", on the other, we crave their lithium....This mine would not be built if Europe or America didn't demand it, call the faked protesters back, the media hype...Osterluzei (talk) 03:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Driven by EV demand 

message: Roughly 3400 words of this 8300 page article are criticism, including half the intro. Like other corporation articles on Wikipedia, it reads like a biography of Hillary Clinton written by Rush Limbaugh.  The criticisms include meaningless remarks such as "Some academics have expressed concern...." (surely with 100,000 academics worldwide, this is a given.  Is it notable?) and "Rio Tinto has been criticized by environmental groups..." (is there any natural resources company that hasn't been?) and ridiculously petty criticisms such as "Its has been widely reported that more can be done to improve the mental health of fly-in fly-out workers in the mining industry...".  
Contrast this article with that on North Korea, widely considered to have one of the most oppressive governments in the world.  This 13800 word article contains about 1500 words of criticism, the vast majority of which is caveated with phrases like "it has been alleged that..." and extensive quotes from people defending the government.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:9100:1503:B1EE:1811:BEFC:A783 (talk) 14:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Does Every Corporation Article on Wikipedia Have to be a Diatribe on The Evils of Capitalism?

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