Talk:Hilary Duff/Archive 2

message: Many news stories and interviews even one with video shows Hilary talking about how her parents have separated due to her fathers infidelity with another woman. Is this worth noting in her personal life section?? 02:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: Hey guys, I honestly think that whole Martha McPhee thing was a dud. Go and Google "Ebiz Entertainment" and see what you get. Let's look at the forum source closely. 
"Hollywood Records is planning to release about 5 singles from Duff's next compilation, out of which the second single has already come out, and the first one (With Love) has been previewed on national television."
What is the supposed second single? I thought it is With Love. And the link to the website does not work. Take a look at this line.
"Don't use this article on your website, please."
The author is obviously afraid that this info he may have made up could be fake! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ashuduff (talk • contribs) 13:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 5 Singles!

message: She's been lip-synching for her entire career
How would you know? Do you even know her? and do you have a reliable source? I don't think you do.
What are you 5? Can't you take any hints from her digitally-enhanced voice? Can a normal human voice sound like that "live"? I don't think so. The evidence speaks for itself. Look under "Lip-Synching on MTV's New Year's Bash" and "Lip-Synching on 2003 AMAs and 2006 AMAs" Hilary's been lip-synching for quite a long time, her voice coach even admitted on E! that she used background music to carry out her live performances. Her fans even admit that her music is ELECTRONIC, you don't think she uses synthesizers and today's latest technology to make her voice sound better? Her songs are polished to the point where its impossible to perform live
So! She still doesn't lip synch.  And maybe Hilary Duff is a really good singer live, can't you accept the fact that she is a great singer.  The only time I know when she didn't sing is in The Lizzie McGuire Movie, when her voice was combined with another. She was only accused of lip synching, and the person who told that rumor had an incorrect thought, not a fact.
Wrong. She is a professional lip-syncher. She hardly performs any live performances without the assistance of background music. If your reading comprehension isn't so good, I suggest you to re-read what I posted a couple of more times before commenting back. Its a fact that she lip-synched on MTV's New Years Bash and its a fact that she lip-synched during the 2003 AMAs and 2006 AMAs. I would not be posting if these events never happened. Hilary's music is DIGITAL what does that mean? It means a computer did it for her.
You do not have PROOF for you theory.  If you have ACTUAL PROOF, I would believe you.  So, to make others believe this theory, please have PROOF. And proof is actually Hilary saying that she has been lip syching. Hiary has in fact been caught lip-syncing 17 times. She states that she had a sore throat, but you be the judge.
:The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. In other words, just because something has yet to be proven, doesn't mean it's not true. Of course, I'm media-retarded at times, so my argument is kinda invalid. 65.96.144.190 08:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She hasn't been lipsynching at all. I went and saw her live twice, and her words and her mouth went together perfectly. Besides that, her voice in song sounds just like I've always heard it on TV and in movies. She's not Lindsay Lohan or Ashlee Simpson, so don't get it twisted. Bigman17 05:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about Ashlee Simpson, but Lindsay Lohan has had more live performances than Hilary Duff (on television, at least; she sounds mediocre live, by the way). Most of Hilary's TV performances are clearly lip-synched. Which doesn't mean that she can't sing live or that she doesn't have true live performances (I guess she sang With Love live on Good Morning America - and it sounded really worse than what you hear on CD), but she does lip-synch a lot.
Note: a theory has been proven. a conjecture has not been proven.66.213.29.242 13:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hilary Duff and Lip syncing

message: Should we have a separate topic for her clothing line?
I SaY YES
Great can someone take care of that? 68.122.145.77 21:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stuff by Hilary Duff

message: What exactly is Duff's middle name.  several sources say Erhard something, BUT, in a program from her most wanted tour, Duff's mother declared that it was Ann.Kiwidude 16:42, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
I'm guessing it would be Erhard if her actual mother said so. She did after all name Hilary. Although I always thought it was Ann you never know!
It's definitely Erhard... says it in the Most Wanted tour program on a page written by her mom, Susan Duff.
: How about Hilary Ann Erhard Duff? Hilary is her first name, Ann is her secondary name, Erhard is the middle name and Duff is the surname. --Howard the Duck | talk, 05:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can come up with a reliable citation that contradicts the current reliable citation we have and that states this is what her name is.  This is unlikely, however.  --Yamla 14:11, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name 

message: An admin took it off, so it's currently inactive, even though someone reinserted the tag (if you couldn't tell by the amount of IP edits this page has had in the past 24 hours).  I'm gonna take it off now, since it's doing absolutely nothing other than putting an icon in the top left corner. SKS2K6 06:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The sprotected2 tag

message: I took it off. But there's still a paragragh on it. Is it really true and is there any information to verify it? I have never heard it - .* this message from natasha 09:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Hulk Nickname

message: I have repeatedly told the user that fair use images are not allowed, but he repeatedly ignores me.  And I can't revert, cuz then I'm violating WP:3RR.  Can someone change the picture back to the free one?  Thanks.  And if someone else can explain the fair use criteria, I'd be greatly appreciated. SKS2K6 02:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair use is explained here:  WP:FUC.  Rklawton 16:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New image

message: I know wikipedia accepts pictures that are like government ones...like the one right now 'american supports...blah blah blah.'
Well, Hilary performed for the President inaugeration or whatever...if anyone rememebers it was in 2005 and she performed wake up....if we get that picture of her performing, it would work...but i just cant find it!!
HELP PLEASE!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maahem33 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have one of her performing in Columbus, Ohio. I will upload and change it. Imageboy1 01:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: lololol she looks too thin TheKillerAngel 18:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok, we really need a new picture 

message: I think someone needs to edit or add a statement.  The article states that A Cinderella Story made about 74,000,000, then it goes on saying that critics panned the movie, with one critic stating RAISE YOUR VOICE was bad...Was there a statement about Raise Your Voice in between there that was deleted?  Small5th 05:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In "Movies" section 

message: Due to the dispute of her name, Wikipedia should not allow her name to be displayed with certainty, instead they should put, "Erhard or Ann (Name disputed)."
Merlot70 05:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: not really, because that's her name. It just is, Bigman17 05:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle name. 

message: add www.hilaryplanet.com to external links —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.129.151.204 (talk) 07:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, no fan sites.  --  Zanimum 19:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  add www.hilaryplanet.com to external links 

message: I've removed the information that came from the fake Ebiz site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sailorearth (talk • contribs) 07:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed ebiz 

message: Can someone put a FULL list of Hilary's awards and nomtations on her page. I'm talking about everything from her music and film career. 
AveryStepfon 00:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards and Nominations 

message: I think the first paragraph (introduction) should include information about Stuff by Hilary Duff considering it is her clothing line. That way it will cover all Hilary's repertoire (ie. music, film, fashion etc)
Tipexcom2 17:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Paragraph 

message: I've noticed that in the recent changes, someone changed it- So I clicked, and it was vandilised. As a newly registered user, could someone else revert the vandilism? Thanks in advance --Goberfish 02:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandilism 

message: Hilary's new album debuted and peaked at number 4.Then why all over her Wikipedia article is it saying 3.This is incorrect and I have changed it twice already and someone is changing it back.Go to www.billboard.com right now and you will see it is at number four with a peak at number . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.42.8.35 (talk) 20:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dignity Reached Number 4!!!!!! 

message: Yeah, she did...it used to be here before butsomeone fixed it and probably forgot to type it out again...and her dignity album was at number 3 
NOT 4 it was a mistake, even billboard said it....
she has been singing for so long and she is considered a new artist????
:Which year has she won anything at the World Music Awards?? Unless you can prove it, there's no way to state she ever get this award...
*She's considered an artist?! What has the world become? Slartibartfast1992 22:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hilary duff won the World Music Award for Best New Female Artist 2004 CHECK HERE www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/archives.php?id=37693 - 40k - Cached - Similar pages 

message: Awards should probably be reorganized, maybe by date.
205.250.117.181 07:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards 

message: where's her filmography section?
Deano91 03:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmography

message: lol everything past Personal Life is gone. 69.138.188.200 14:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I wasn't signed in when I said that. I'll fix it up. TheKillerAngel 14:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has been raped by vandals 

message: I have nominated this article for GA, if any there is any issues with it, please reply it here or on my talk page and mentionning what can be improved. This is the first time I have nominated an article for GA, but article looks well written with several sources. I had fix some of the reference format so it can be more presentable and comply with the style--JForget 01:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: I'd like to let you know I'm reviewing this article for Good Article status, my comments follow:
*Avoid external links within the prose - so the link after "...Amy Beulah Schlemmer [1]..." should be made into a genuine citation per WP:CITE.
*"(Susan and Bob separated in 2006.)[3]" - weird parenthesised, short sentence.
*"theatre" vs "theater".  Consistency required.
*Deal with any [citation needed] tags.
*Ensure all Fair Use rationales actually specify for which articles the fair use is valid.
*Citation ref [4] (used throughout) is dead.  Need a new link or a new reference for all uses.
*A number of paragraphs are completely uncited, this needs to be resolved.
*Place citations in accordance with WP:CITE (e.g. [6],[7],[8],[9]).
*Razzie?  Wikilink or explain.
*"Duff recorded a cover of Brooke McClymont's "I Can't Wait" for the original television soundtrack for Lizzie McGuire in 2002 (see Lizzie McGuire (soundtrack)), and "The Tiki Tiki Tiki Room" for the first DisneyMania compilation album." - just pipe a wikilink on the first soundtrack to Lizzie McGuire (soundtrack) and remove the nasty "see...." bit.  Certainly don't say "see... " twice, yuck.
*Avoid single-sentence paragraphs, e.g. "Duff recorded new songs for her Madonna-produced film Material Girls, including a Timbaland-produced cover version of Madonna's "Material Girl" with her sister.[19]"
*Entrepreneurship section needs to be converted to better prose, it's borderline lineprose.
*Cite the very specific gross for Human Nature.
This is close to failing (mainly due to the lack of reliable sources, especially due to the broken [4]), but I'll put it on hold for now.  Seven days max to fix these issues.  Let me know if I can help with anything.  The Rambling Man 17:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review comments 

message: Did anyone found another source (other then apparently the fansite mentionned by another editor) for the German ancestry which is tag for a citation request? There is only 2 days left for the GA nomination and it was one of the issues mentionned (not the first point but where the reviewer mentionned that we need to deal with any citation needed passages).JForget 23:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Amy Beulah Schlemmer

message: It's supposed to be the teenager of the year award...people why do u got to be jealous of her that you just call her a skank...Friggin a-hole...and her album discography is all wrong..she doesnt have number one albums in uk.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.6.202.127 (talk • contribs).
:Done.--JYi 06:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd prefer to leave that information out of the main page. All the chart details are already at Hilary Duff discography. --JYi 19:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOMEONE DELETE THE 'SKANK OF THE YEAR AWARD FROM ROLLING STONE' 

message: I noticed that there is lots of vandalism and unsigned posts on this talk page. Can we start getting this all cleaned up? Haseo9999 14:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Page Vandalism 

message: As of this posting, is 9 images really necessary for the article? We can cut a few. TheKillerAngel 00:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many images 

message: I think this article deserves to be a GA. i want to know what others think of it....also should i submit the article for reassessment or renomination??.....if anything needs to be done pls suggest....i think it can be submitted for GA nomination.Gprince007 15:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA renomination

message: I have reviewed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria and have put the article on hold at this time until the following issues are addressed:
#"She has an elder sister, Haylie Duff, who is also an actress/singer." This sentence doesn't need to be mentioned right away in the first paragraph on an article about Hilary Duff. Move it down further into the intro and put another sentence stating something notable about Hilary's life instead.Gprince007 (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe i've addressed all issues pertaing to the GAN review. However, certain points couldnt be addressed. The following are the points and the reasons:
*I didnt change Pt 10 because
**i believe it is justified to be there because it is stated under "Entrepreneurship" section. The site features Duff's clothing line and dressing up Duff's doll as a preview before buying. Since the site is for selling Duff's branded clothing line, i think it should remain in that section.
*Pt 14 regarding her relationship with three men: I believe that her personal relationships are condensed enough in 3 short paragraphs. Not to forget, these also include her feud with Lindsay Lohan and comments about virginity. Her relationship with the 3 men ,the Lindsay feud and charity causes together make up the section which i believe is condensed enough.
Apart from these two points, all the points have been addressed and i believe you should not have any problems in promoting it. Thanx to your GAN review, the article now has 88 references as compared to 62 a few days back. If there is any other clarification or issue which needs to be addressed then do let me know....Thanx..Gprince007 (talk) 15:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GAN Review: On Hold

message: Good work on addressing the above issues, and I apologize for the delay in getting back to rereview the article. I made a few corrections myself, but there are a few more things that need to be fixed further, and once they are addressed, the article shouldn't have a problem passing.
#:Image:Posterraisevoice.jpg was added to the article and if it is to be included several things need to be fixed. The image needs to be reduced in size so that the largest size is 300 or 400px, so you can reupload the image after reducing it in an outside computer program and uploading the new version in place of the original by clicking on "Upload a new version of this file" on the image's page (:Image:Hilary Duff Metamorphosis.jpg and :Image:Hilary Duff Most Wanted.jpg also needs to be reduced) Additionally, a detailed fair use rationale must be added that clearly states why the posters should be included in the article. If you don't want to go through with fixing the three images, then you can just remove them. Gprince007 (talk) 07:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A few more things

message: Since the above issues were addressed for the most part, I have passed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria. For the third point, I'd recommend stating that she said it on the television show, and then include an inline citation for a television episode, by adding TRL, the year, or any other information you can find. Besides this, the article has greatly improved since the beginning of my review. Keep improving the article, making sure that all new information is properly sourced. Also, to anyone that is reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the large backlog. Instructions can be found here. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you continue to bring articles up to Good Article status. If you have any further questions about this review, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 00:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA passed

message: well the article is finally a GA rated article now. The next logical step i guess would be to push for FA in the coming weeks. Regarding the points raised while the article was under GA nomination review, all the points have been addressed except for the one described above. Now i am not from US, so i dont know when and at what date Hilary said the above statements on TRL...i know that it was in 2005. if someone knows other details of the show and when she gave the statement then pls cite them in the article. meanwhile, i'll also search the net for the cite...cheers !!! Gprince007 (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA passed, Next step FA

message: can we please have a mention of a incident involving Hilary, her sister Haylie, their mom and the Fox station from their hometown Houston KRIV. this incident happened while the group was leaving the Harris County Courthouse in Houston. the incident which resulted with a damage camera that belonged to KRIV (similar to the Kenny Rogers (the baseball player) attack of the DFW media that happened in 2005 at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington with KRIV's sister station KDFW, which had a camera destroyed and a camera man injured in the incident) and has footage of the incident which included Haylie screaming the word "Fuck". here's the link to the story to prove that isn't a tabloid story: http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Entertainment/Detail?contentId=5279500&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=7.2.1
this incident should be mention here on her wikipedia--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  KRIV incident