Talk:Mimosa pudica

message: where it asks for citation needed, can be found at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC396223/   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.9.23 (talk) 06:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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===Stickers===
I added a name "stickers" though didn't have a citation I can directly cite.   I grew up in Panama [Canal Zone]] where these plants were a near ubiquitous ground weed in open fields (i.e., you'd get patches of them growing as ground weeds mixed in with lawn grass).   In this form it would never grow higher than a few inches, but could spread over several feet of a field (the lawns were regularly mowed).    In this form you might not notice it until you stepped on it, at which point if you were barefoot it would prick your feet, hence the name "stickers".  It was also a common hazard if playing football or anything else where you might land on it.  It wouldn't draw blood or anything, but it was painful to step or land on.   I had assumed the leaves would close to protect it from being trod on, while the mini-thorns would discourage someone from stepping on it again.   
I don't know if this name was used outside the english-speaking zone community, but pretty much anyone there knew exactly what you meant if you said "stickers".   (e.g., "Look out, there is a patch of stickers over there").      The leaves would of course do their closing thing, that was generally a mild curiosity, of lesser note than the prickly nature.   It wasn't until much later that I knew the plant could grow larger.   We considered it a nuisance, a weed.Aapold (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Anecdotes are not considered reliable sources and therefore cannot be included in the article. Rkitko (talk) 13:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do you draw the line between anecdote and personal experience?  Does it have to be from someone else?   Alright, lessee.  Here is a photo album from someone referring to them, including a nice close-up pic of the plant. here is a "memories" page from CZBrats (canal zone brats) where they talk about running across "stickers", another from "Memories of the Canal Zone" here which mentions walking across them barefoot.  Is this sufficient?Aapold (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: None of those links would be acceptable. It should come from a published work like an academic book on the history of the canal zone, not a website by a non-expert that anyone could set up. Thoroughly read our policy on reliable sources to figure out what sources would be acceptable. Rkitko (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia cannot use your personal experiences or anecdotes as reliable sources. You are not a primary source because your information cannot be verified. Self-citation of something you write elsewhere is not acceptable because you are not a known expert on this plant. Everything I linked to is a policy or guideline that will give you more information on why anecdotes cannot be used in articles. Rkitko (talk) 15:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Not a real name anyway - "stickers" appears to be a close cognate of what we would call "pickers" in Trinidad - in other words "thorns". Guettarda (talk) 15:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Common Names

message: I added a name "stickers" though didn't have a citation I can directly cite.   I grew up in Panama [Canal Zone]] where these plants were a near ubiquitous ground weed in open fields (i.e., you'd get patches of them growing as ground weeds mixed in with lawn grass).   In this form it would never grow higher than a few inches, but could spread over several feet of a field (the lawns were regularly mowed).    In this form you might not notice it until you stepped on it, at which point if you were barefoot it would prick your feet, hence the name "stickers".  It was also a common hazard if playing football or anything else where you might land on it.  It wouldn't draw blood or anything, but it was painful to step or land on.   I had assumed the leaves would close to protect it from being trod on, while the mini-thorns would discourage someone from stepping on it again.   
I don't know if this name was used outside the english-speaking zone community, but pretty much anyone there knew exactly what you meant if you said "stickers".   (e.g., "Look out, there is a patch of stickers over there").      The leaves would of course do their closing thing, that was generally a mild curiosity, of lesser note than the prickly nature.   It wasn't until much later that I knew the plant could grow larger.   We considered it a nuisance, a weed.Aapold (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Anecdotes are not considered reliable sources and therefore cannot be included in the article. Rkitko (talk) 13:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do you draw the line between anecdote and personal experience?  Does it have to be from someone else?   Alright, lessee.  Here is a photo album from someone referring to them, including a nice close-up pic of the plant. here is a "memories" page from CZBrats (canal zone brats) where they talk about running across "stickers", another from "Memories of the Canal Zone" here which mentions walking across them barefoot.  Is this sufficient?Aapold (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: None of those links would be acceptable. It should come from a published work like an academic book on the history of the canal zone, not a website by a non-expert that anyone could set up. Thoroughly read our policy on reliable sources to figure out what sources would be acceptable. Rkitko (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia cannot use your personal experiences or anecdotes as reliable sources. You are not a primary source because your information cannot be verified. Self-citation of something you write elsewhere is not acceptable because you are not a known expert on this plant. Everything I linked to is a policy or guideline that will give you more information on why anecdotes cannot be used in articles. Rkitko (talk) 15:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Not a real name anyway - "stickers" appears to be a close cognate of what we would call "pickers" in Trinidad - in other words "thorns". Guettarda (talk) 15:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Stickers

message: :::TickleMe plant already redirects to Mimosa pudica.  This seems adequate to allow finding it.  I am adding a redirect from Ticklish plant, as that is the name I knew it under... it grows on the shores of Sicily Island, Louisiana and was called that name some years ago.- Sinneed 03:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Category about Other Names:Random subsection to make editing easier

message: Yes, I did put in a lot of citation tags. But there was/is a lot of information in this article that was/is not contained in the references. I  added some in-line citations myself from information that I could find readily in authoritative sources to hand, add then added cite tags for certain "facts" I couldn't readily verify at the time, but possibly others could. I find medical information without authoritative references particularly alarming.--Melburnian (talk) 07:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation tags

message: I agree that since it is listed in a catalog under TickleMe plant, (I make no claim that it is, but accept this under wp:AGF) it should clearly be given a redirect from there... and it already has, since 21:59, 11 May 2008.  This will allow those searching for it under that name to find it here.  Likewise Tickle me plant already redirects here.
This should make it adequately easy for those who find the catalog-listed name either in the catalog or through advertising to find the actual article.  However, wp:NOT the Yellow Pages... one reason to list the names under which it is marketed would be if the name itself were so wp:notable that it merited mention "going the other way".  This doesn't seem to be the case.  As I see it, the only reason being given is to allow easy finding by searchers, and that is accomplished by the redirects.  If there is some other reason given, I apologize, but I missed it.- Sinneed 04:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I note that, as usual, I have joined the editing and am no longer able to offer outside opinion. :) - Sinneed 15:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  3O 

message: Hi does anyone know how easy it is to grow this plant and get seeds from them? would be good to include in the cultivation part of this article. THanks JMRH6 (talk) 22:53, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  producing seeds? 

message: In the first paragraph it says, "It grows mostly in undisturbed shady areas, under trees or shrubs."
In the "Cultivation" section it says "Additionally, the plant is shade intolerant and frost-sensitive, meaning that it does not tolerate low levels of light or cold temperatures."
This is a contradiction, but I don't know enough about it to fix it.128.239.213.128 (talk) 03:07, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction regarding shade? 

message: In the distribution paragraph, it mentions the countries where its native and introduced. I found a map from the NRCS plant database that includes the US. I do not see any indication of it being in any of the states mentioned except for Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. In addition, it says that its native to North America, but based on the NRCS database, Mimosa pudica is an introduced species in Hawaii and Florida. Either the information in this paragraph needs to be changed, or another source should be cited. Kamel24 (talk) 05:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distribution and habitat 

message: I was interested in adding a paragraph about Mimosa pudica in scientific research. I have added it below the Chemical Components section of the article. Feel free to read and improve upon it. The citations I added include more information than in the paragraph, and are quite interesting. They're worth a read if this section needs expanding.  Kamel24 (talk) 20:40, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a New Paragraph: Research with Mimosa pudica 

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message: Haven't the family changed to mymusideae family? Ajay A B (talk) 14:54, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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