Talk:Florida State University/Archive 1

message: I understand your concern about boasting without backup, but if you do a little reasearch, you'll see that it is so in those departments.  I'll start you off. 
*"The Florida State University School of Theatre is one of the leading comprehensive theatre training programs in the United States. U.S. News and World Report has consistently included FSU's graduate theatre programs in its top-tier rankings, one of the few public university programs thus honored. The School is accredited by the National Association of Schools of Theatre and is a founding member of the University/Resident Theatre Association." http://theatre.fsu.edu/academic/graduate/ AriGold 16:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ranking of fine arts programs

message: The enrollment information quoted from Princeton Review is for FALL 2004 statistics, not 2005. The Tallahassee Democrat posted the CORRECT SAT and enrollment numbers on August 29th, 2005. Florida State Universtity is expected to post the official IR factbook on this information by the end of October.
Need to get the new Fall 2006 student stats up.  They are significantly higher than last year...1140-1280 for starters.
I updated the Fall 2006 general statistics to match FSU's IR stats.Sirberus 02:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ENROLLMENT/Academics 

message: This section needs to be added
Added.  Including some information about parking (ugh).Sirberus 17:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Housing 

message: The history is public record, accessible through many website, handbooks and even the Florida Statutes.  Here are some links to the history.  The version on the wikipedia page has information gathered from sites and has been rewritten in parts.
http://www.fsu.edu/~dof/Faculty-Handbook/Ch2/Ch2.1.html
http://www.fsu.edu/~fsu150/history/history_02_1851b.html
http://www.ir.fsu.edu/search_help/searchinfo.asp?ID=t_history
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/F/Fl/Florida_State_University.htm
:It still contains text which is directly taken from copyright protected websites.  That's not allowed. TrbleClef 20:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I've removed the International Programs link because it appears to be POV to include a link to one (college, school,) department of the university without including links to every (college, school, and) department of the university, all of which are accessible from the university's directory site anyway.  Additionally, the link was added in an edit from 146.201.119.101, which is an IP allocated to the International Programs office -- nothing inherently bad about that, but it would suggest that any visitor from an FSU department add an individual link for that department.
Certainly anyone seeking further information on the International Programs, or any of the other colleges/schools/departments mentioned in the article could find such information by using the university's directory. TrbleClef 03:45, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Programs 

message: Is this ACC template really appropriate for the footer of a university article?  The entire article is not about university sports - would it be more appropriate to create a sports section and place the template there?
:I'd say it's fine.  Many of the other schools have it.  Athletics are just as much a part of the university as academics, and in many cases are the most visible aspect of a university's credentials.
::True, but my question only related to whether it belonged as the footer (I believe this was before the SUS template was placed at the bottom)
:::Ah, I see now, it';s in there twice.  I'd say one time is enough.  Take it out in the links section at the bottom maybe? AriGold 16:43, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ACC template 

message: There is controversy over the FSU use of Seminole/Native American symbolism, imagery, etc. and using "seminole" as the mascot name.
FSU asked ALL the various Seminole Nations for permission to use the mascot including Osceola and his horse Renegade.  They've asked if they were offended by the "Chop" or "War Chant".  Seminoles (the Native American Tribe) from the state of Florida accept the FSU use of their symbols and name, and they actually welcome and embrace the use.  However Seminoles from outside the state of Florida (notably those residing in the state of Oklahoma who are descendents of those forcibly exiled from Florida in the 19th century) disagree and would like the university to stop using the Seminole nickname and the related symbols. 
Those who find the FSU "Seminoles" and other Native American mascots to be a source of controversy are often themselves cariacatured as politically correct types who would probably also find the name Miami "Hurricanes" to be offensive to people named Charley or Andrew, as the previous version of this Wikipedia entry attests.  Not a 'nole fan, actually a rival 'cane fan defending NPOV.   Jcam 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mascot Controversy ?

message: Recently Max Mayfield, Director of the National Hurricane Center was added under Media. Looking at Media, there's a lot of meteorologists. Anyone object to adding a special section for them? Kushboy 20:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *That's tough to judge. I'm going to move them all over to a new section for now. Let me know if you have any ideas of how to draw the line. Kushboy 03:54, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  +Meteorology in Famous Alumni? 

message: *FSU WAS NOT founded in 1851. 1851 is the year the Florida Legislature enacted legislation to found two seminaries, East Florida Seminary and West Florida Seminary. EFS opened in 1853, and WFS opened in 1857. EFS merged with another institution later. In 1905, the Buckman act REPLACED these institutions and the State Normal and Industrial College for Negroes (With much of same staff, administration, and buildings) with newer institutions. EFS became the University of Florida, WFS Became FSU, and the State Normal and Industrial College for Negroes became Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University. Now, perhaps the wording "Official" and "Actual" is not ideal ("Actual" seems a bit harsh for all three, in my opinion), but the three institutions all went through a similar history in regards to the founding date, and all three should be in line as far as the info box founding date goes. Feel free to change the wording, like I said, I don't find the wording to be ideal anyway, but make sure you change the wording on ALL THREE at the SAME TIME. If you remove the second date, remove the second date on all three. I don't care what the end result is, just all three need to be held to the same standard. - FrYGuY 18:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding 

message: FSU has introduced a new seal and wordmark.  It is protected by a new office and not available for download without permission.  If anyone is interested in updating what is in the article consider contacting that office; see 
:*I have talked to the office, and I will handle it, if nobody else does first. Kushboy 07:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated identity 

message: Any FSU attending wikipedia editors here are invited to a superbowl party, sunday, hosted by me. Leave a message on my talk space. Swatjester 07:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: FSU Wikimeeting

message: With so much information available within Seminole sports, AriGold and Noles1984 have created a Florida State Seminoles article. Noles1984 17:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Athletics Change

message: Under Academics, I removed the bolding of each school within the text itself in favor of using bold headings which were absent before. This produced a cleaner appearance. Noles1984 16:17, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorg 

message: The opening paragraph needs work (it certainly doesn't do FSU justice).  What does "graduate-national research" in the opening line mean?  Did you mean "graduate, national research".  Overall there's some good content on this site...but the opening is poor.
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I agree it doesn't do FSU justice...
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I changed the intro back to include "oldest site of higher education in Florida" since someone removed it. Why would you take that out?
== Endowment ==
I noticed someone changed the endowment from 630 million to 460. Is this accurate? I read the source, but it also said that our previous endowment wasn't 630 mill, but rather only 400 something.
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Corrected vandalism by 128.227.82.127 (University of Florida).Sirberus 16:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FSU opening paragraph needs update 

message: I wrote this. Does anyone think it could fit in, and if so, where? Kushboy 17:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something new

message: Added "academic clusters" to intro. with Association of American Universities. We are currently undertaking a great leap forward in academia and it's worth noting in the article. Noles1984 15:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic clusters 

message: Some unknown fool removed the intro paragraph. I'm close to calling this vandalism.
 Noles1984 18:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replaced intro paragraph 

message: I think we need some more pictures on here, don't you think?
:*Yeah Kushboy 01:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: Looking much better!  Now if only the UF, FAMU and Miami fans would leave it alone...Sirberus 04:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: FSU Page Rework

message: I think the story about Taxol (College of A&S, Dept. of Chemistry) belongs as a sub heading under the College of Arts and Sciences...not at the end of the entire listing...Sirberus 21:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Taxol Story

message: I've removed the 'photo request' header as I think I've covered that (I have more good pics though), and added a 'WikiProject Universities' header, thoughts sirberus? Mike850 03:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Rework

message: Added 2006 BusinessWeek rankings, updated US News rankings and other figures from COB website and other sources that are linked. JJ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.237.178.195 (talk) 22:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: College of Business

message: I changed the endowment from $630M to $475M.  The 630 figure is the amount received from our latest fund-raiser.  475 is an approximation, we should get the official figure in Jan/Feb. Mike850
Endowment updated to $500M.  Sirberus 14:59, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Endowment

message: Alumni section's a little big, starting to crowd out the main article.  I think scientists, businessmen, and fine artists should take precedence over entertainers.  So let's list those who should be removed to make room. Mike850 00:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Alumni - Who should stay

message: I've created a new FSU Template: Florida State University.  I've added one to the bottom of the article, please add any facilities to the template as needed. Mike850 07:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Template

message: The women's athletic symbol/logo is no longer used.
* We know that the symbol is dated...but until we can find a legal current graphic we're kind of stuck with it.Sirberus 20:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletic Symbol 

message: While the TBUF is history, it is in fact negligible in the context of the entire history of the university.  As the initial author of the history section here my goal was not to write a duplication of the FSU official history or the FSU history from the perspective of UF fans.  What we have is an accurate summary of many major events in the history of FSU.  Not all details are given, only enough to whet the appetite of the reader with a reasonable summary; complete with links to the official history of the university and the Florida archives, where complete detail may be had.Sirberus 23:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: TBUF Details

message: The official history of Florida State University is contained on the university web pages here: http://www.fsu.edu/about/history.html
Here's the quote from that site: "The year 1947 saw many changes. Demand by returning World War II veterans had brought men back to the campus in 1946 with the establishment of the Tallahassee Branch of the University of Florida, and on May 15, 1947, the Governor signed an act of the Legislature returning Florida State College for Women to coeducational status and naming it The Florida State University."
This language has been approved by the Administration of the university and may be considered authoritative.  I'm quite sure that any language describing the university on a public display like a web page must go through multiple technical and legal reviews before it is approved by either the ranking university authorities or the FSU Board of Trustees.  
There is a claim by some that this book, written by Frank Stephenson, that FSU was "created" in 1947: http://www.rinr.fsu.edu/summer95/features/warchild.html  Note that this book draws from an FSU student's dissertation which may be found here: Femina Perfecta: The Genesis of Florida State University, by Robin Jeanne Sellers, Ph.D. This dissertation, representing the first comprehensive history of FSCW and the "Great Transition," will be published as a book this fall by the FSCW/FSU Class of 1947.
I must point out that a dissertation, even if it claims to be "comprehensive" may never be embraced by the University officially.  FSU produces thousands and thousands of dissertations and few, if any, are adopted as official policy of the university.
Why is this even an issue?  The reason is that some UF fans, in the never-ending quest for superiority over the rival flagship FSU, want to parse such language in such ways that it diminishes the university.  It's really of little moment, but between FSU and UF alumni, it's very important.  In this instance alone it has resulted in battles of Wikipedia reverts and testy postings. (some may call this a nerd war - lol)
Therefore, unless someone has more credible sources than the official position of the FSU Trustees, I suggest we go with the official language of the university in the "History of the University" section.
Please note that I will not revert or edit the current text (unless it gets to be vandalism) for a couple days here so that everyone gets a chance to come back with remarks.Sirberus 12:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added more detail to the paragraph and links to pix from the Florida Archives.  Reworked the paragraph to match the official FSU history.Sirberus 16:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was FSU "created" in 1947 or was FSCW renamed FSU? 

message: I wanted to solicit comments regarding two statements in this section.
The first states that: Florida State University joins the University of Florida as the top-ranked public universities in Florida, the only public universites in the top U.S. News ranking tier, and the only universities listed in the Academic Ranking of World Universities Top 100 American Universites. 
Obviously, the second and third clauses are not correct as written, as there are many other public universities in the top U.S. News ranking tier and there are certainly other universities listed in the Top 100 American Universities rankings.  Is this supposed to be a reference instead only to universities in Florida?
The second states that:
FSU has an 89% freshman retention rate, competitive with any public university in the country.
Unfortunately, the source cited states neither that FSU has an 89% freshman retention rate nor that such rate is "competitive with any public university in the country."  I am sure that data can be found re: the freshman retention rate, and the other comment seems superfluous.
Since the comments were reinserted without substantive explanation after I deleted them previously on these bases, I wanted to fully explain the issues before making any changes.
Cka3n 18:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like your changes have been enacted.Sirberus 01:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academics and External Rankings  

message: I've asked for a fac review of the article now that it has been in peer review status for some time.Sirberus 13:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured Article Request

message: As a result of the feedback received from the Featured Article Candidate request it seems we have some work to do to bring this article up to a higher level.
First, it seems the listing of FSU alumni, which grows ever longer, must be moved to it's own sub-article or stub.  I agree with this change and solicit comments about this proposed change.
Secondly, we must rework the method of citation to a more standard format.  Any comments on this are appreciated as well.
Lastly, please take a critical look at the article.  One comment dealt with too many graphics in the middle of the article.  While this is open to interpretation, please offer suggestions as to what changes to graphics improves the quality of the article.
I will not make any changes until we have a week or so for comments about these proposed changes.  Once we eliminate these aspects it's likely there will be more work to do.  If we do not make any changes the article is not at all likely to make Featured Article status.Sirberus 00:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Revisions Proposed for Article

message: I established new pages for notable fsu faculty here:Florida State University Notable Faculty and notable fsu alumni here: Florida State University Notable Alumni.  Please add additional faculty and alumni names to those pages.Sirberus 21:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New pages for faculty and alumni 

message: Yes to merge.  If this song is really important, it should be merged with FSU. Decoratrix 20:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger with song

message: Please add FSU Panama City campus information.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.237.178.195 (talk • contribs).
:Will do.Sirberus 18:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Panama City Campus

message: Hi there!  UkrNole 485 requested a reassessment of this article from WikiProject Universities.  After reading it over this afternoon, my opinion would be that the article is not ready to be rated higher than GA-Class.  Frankly, I never would have called it GA-Class in the first place; much of the article is still "messy" in terms of prose and proofreading (I made a few changes today as I read).  I'd suggest finding someone from the League of Copyeditors to go through and clean everything up. Also, consider going through the Manual of Style to double check that everything here matches what's been established there. Cheers! Esrever 21:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The version of this article that was rated GA is available at the posted link on this page.  The current version is substantially different, as is wont to happen on Wikipedia. Sirberus 19:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  reassessment request 

message: Working on the Athletic Site - help would be appreciated UkrNole 485 00:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FSU Seminoles Page 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Florida_State_University
This Wikiproject was created to improve all pages in reference to Florida State: Athletics, academics, discoveries and people.
Look at Georgia Tech's Wikiproject, we should model ours after theirs. UkrNole 485 00:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:WikiProject_Florida_State_University 

message: According to the campus newspaper FSView, the first school sanctioned club of ruggers started in 1972. The founders were all male and wished to meet girls through playing rugby wherever rugby was to be played. The Women's Rugby Club was form three years later and since then both teams have won numerous championships. The Men's Club made it all the way to California in 2005 to play the National Championship of the Matrix season. Both teams are known for their strong determination, wild socials, and comraderie. As they strive through the 2007 fall season they have been recognized around the FSU Campus as a formidable force.68.42.52.150 20:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FSU Rugby Club 

message: Yesterday I made an edit to the "student life" subsection. I added a small section about the school's longtime status as a party school. Two citations were added to reference the claims I had made. There was no reason for this paragraph to be deleted. The party scene of any school is a very important component and reflection of student life, it doesn't take much experience to be aware of that. If the person that deleted the section reads this, an explanation is owed to me, thank you!
-Blaze33541 04:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't delete your edits but I do not find these particular remarks constructive nor meeting WP:SOURCES.  The FSU pages have many areas that could be further developed, perhaps you can make your point with better data?    Sirberus 13:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Not Constructive and not needed, other schools have "longtime" party school status, a second vote for NO here. UkrNole 485 02:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't mean to get personal here, but some people actually get social in college, outside of going on the internet and/or the library. Maybe it's not important to YOU, but it is to ME, in fact that aspect of the school is a major reason why I am going there next fall. This encyclopedia is not a place for you to impose your will on me, especially when I am not imposing mine on you. A major component of the social fabric of a school is quite constructive, especially when included in the "student life" section.Blaze33541 00:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you could find a way to present the social aspect of FSU that you find enjoyable in a way that evenly discusses the range of activities typically found at universities with a vibrant social life versus one where underage students drink illegally and get hurt or arrested.  Calling FSU a "party" school unfortunately brings the negative aspect to mind.  I'm sure there would be a way to do this that makes your point while being acceptable to those of us who care about the university and the article.  Wikipedia works by consensus.  No one owns this article, but a lot of people care about it.  A balanced and well-documented segment would work for me.  You might try looking at other university articles on Wikipedia for style or ideas.  Sirberus 01:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Student Life edit

message: See here. Beautiful sunset behind a building, and licensed CC-BY. Don't know what it is but you may want to use it in this article. Daniel Case (talk) 03:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Sirberus (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really nice free image on Flickr 

message: University of South Florida was also placed in the first tier of research universities by the Florida legislature in 2007. The lead section should be edited accordingly.Phantasmrenegade (talk) 06:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We discussed this issue before, above. Sirberus (talk) 09:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Tier Research Universities 

message: is very nicely written and has good pictures. LightSpeed3 (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article 

message: I feel on my assesment of the article within the scope of the FSU WikiprojeCt that this is a signature article and should reflect all of eveveryone's hard work  - UkrNole 485 (talk) 13:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article 

message: I will be on campus today taking more pictures to upload, the new chem, bio and track buildings are complete--Nolephin (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you think of the panoramic I added? FSU Guy (talk) 00:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Looks good. 192.136.15.130 (talk) 14:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A nice shot. Sirberus (talk) 09:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: I have proposed moving :Florida State University College of Engineering to :FAMU - FSU College of Engineering —(Discuss)— The college is a joint venture of Florida A&M University and Florida State University, and the article name should reflect that. -- Donald Albury 14:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The FAMU-FSU College of Engineering is also 80% owned, staffed and attended by FSU faculty and students.  I think the current article accurately relates the sharing with FAMU.12.35.160.162 (talk) 00:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope FSU is the main partner, and FAMU is the junior member in the relationship. Jccort (talk) 00:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move College of Engineering 

message: The Mag Lab logo represents its status as subdivision of Florida State University as evidenced through this organizational page of the university: http://www.fsu.edu/departments/ and also in the design of the logo itself.  I see no reason why use of this logo on the main FSU page should be prohibited.  If we need to correct the "fair use" rational for the logo that is fine; perhaps that is unclear and needs work.Sirberus (talk) 21:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of logo - National High Magnetic Field Laboratory

message: Here is a reference where then Governor Jeb Bush refers to FSU and UF as "flagship" universities.  Please use as a reference as needed.
:The most authoritative source I have found that categorizes universities in Florida's SUS is here: 
:http://www.puaf.umd.edu/puaf650-Fullinwider/handouts-AA-Florida%20Plan.htm
:In this article we find that then Gov. Bush explicitly calls FSU and UF "flagship universities":
:Among the notable impacts of One Florida: Of the additional 3,202 first-time-in-college students entering the university system whose race and ethnicity could be determined, minority student enrollment accounted for almost 40%, or 1,234, of that increase. Each of the 10 universities increased the percentage of its entering class who are African-American. Furthermore, the rate of growth for minority students at Florida State University and the University of Florida far outstripped overall university system growth and the growth of white students. For example, while system-wide enrollment grew by approximately 11%, the number of African-Americans at Florida State University grew by 21% and the number of African-Americans at the University of Florida grew by 33%. In addition, the number of Hispanics at Florida State grew by 24%, while the number of Hispanics at the University of Florida increased by 19%.
:In addition, the "cascading" effect, or the reduction of minority students in our flagship universities that many critics of the One Florida plan predicted would happen, did not occur. In fact, minority enrollment actually flowed upwards toward the flagship universities. Combined, Florida State University and the University of Florida enrolled 577 more African-American and Hispanic first-time-in-college students than were enrolled last year. Governor Bush and Chancellor Herbert were joined by presidents and provosts of universities that showed some of the greatest minority gains, including University of Central Florida President John Hitt, and Provosts Larry Abele of Florida State University, David Colburn of the University of Florida, and Richard Osborne of Florida Atlantic University.
Sirberus (talk) 12:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Flagship University Info

message: There is currently an RfC on this question at Talk:University of Maine#Flagship RFC. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 12:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Florida's governor Bush said both FSU and UF are Florida's flagship universities.  The organization also comports with the definition of UC Berkeley's Dr. Robert Berdahl.  The history and law of Florida reconcile very well with this position of two flagship universities regardless of those who insist on a neat and clean organization.  Reality is not always simple.  It's simply real.  
Sirberus (talk) 02:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: UF and FSU have been around since the 1850's and they are the two flagships of the State University System of Florida. They have the strongest academic programs, largest endowments, and numerous other factors for why the Florida Legislature and the citizens from the state of Florida give these two institions this distinction. Historically these two schools have been given this distinction for numerous generations. Over the last decade or so public non-flagship universities have started to take offense to the term flagship, and they are doing everything they can to downplay the term flagship. NorwalkJames (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Whether the "flagship" status of a university can be presented as objective fact

message: Wikipedia is considering deleting the Greek Life at Florida State University article.  User:Scpmarlins nominated for the article to be deleted after someone nominated to delete the Greek Life at the University of Central Florida article.Jccort (talk) 02:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Life at Florida State University 

message: Please use standard citations per WP:CITE when inserting references into all FSU articles.  This standard usage will make all our lives easier.  It's easy - all you do is copy the correct template over, delete what is unnecessary, add your data and the ref /ref switches and voila! you have a standard citation everyone loves.  Thank you! --Sirberus (talk) 19:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Note for all editors''' 

message: "The Florida State University athletics programs are favorites of passionate students, fans and alumni across the United States, especially when led by the Marching Chiefs of the FSU College of Music." Does this sentence seem awkward to anyone else? It strikes me as an attempt to squeeze in a reference to the Marching Chiefs. Can it be cited from anywhere that the Marching Chiefs "especially" make athletic programs "favorites" of all these people? Of course I agree that the Marching chiefs are worth mentioning, but does anyone object to rewording the lead a bit to get rid of this strange sentence? Jwhosler (talk) 13:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How would you rewrite the sentence?  One possible reference as to one tradition led by the Chiefs may be found here: http://www.seminoles.com/trads/fsu-trads-chant.html  --Sirberus (talk) 01:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Problem With Lead?

message: I disagree with attempts to equate the dates of the commonly known predecessor schools of FSU and UF for a very simple reason - UF uses a predecessor school date of an institution (EFS) that played only a minor role in the establishment of the university known today as UFlorida.  The primary predecessor of UF was the Florida Ag College (FAC) in Lake City, FL which was established in 1884.  Records show that the faculty and library of FAC moved to Gainesville from Lake City and I have found scant contribution from EFS to the new school in records.  That UF President Tigert claimed the 1853 date is specious and misleading, as the EFS ceased to exist during the Civil War and then started afresh only years later in a different town.  
Different entirely is FSU's use of 1851, which was claimed by the school long before the Buckman Act and represents the primary predecessor of the university known today as Florida State.  FSU's use of the 1851 date is not only historic and accurate, it also comports with the way other universities claim an establishment date.
The correct establishment date for U Florida, should they ever have a mind to finally get it right, would be to claim either 1851 (the state seminary establishment date, with the weaknesses of EFS cited above) or 1884 (the FAC establishment date) or 1905 (their original Buckman date).
--Sirberus (talk) 23:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what the contention is. It is obvious that the 1851 date used by FSU is the date the seminaries were established, and that's what the source says.--Cúchullain t/c 00:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1857 date information is irrelevant and unnecessarily contentious.  Only a U Florida-centric editor would persist in this area, especially since this article has already been not only peer-reviewed but also scrutinized for GA status twice.  Not once did an independent editor recommend such dates or detail be covered.  The only reason to broach this subject is to justify date claims by the rival school.  It is needless edit warring.  --Sirberus (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not a U Florida-centric editor. I added the 1857 date because it has been used by the school itself. I don't understand why that would be contentious.--Cúchullain t/c 11:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a peek at your contributions and I note that you are an Administrator on Wikipedia.  I also note that you spend most of your time on UFlorida subjects and not Florida State University subjects.  You almost never edit FSU pages...except now - to cleverly delete peer reviewed information without being obvious and then to start an edit war on an issue only UF supporters would care about.  Please think about directing your energies to more constructive edits.  --Sirberus (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, come off it. I'm not some kind of UF backer, and it wouldn't matter if I was so long as my edits are sound. And "peer review" around here is very informal, it's not a shock if something is missed. Are you honestly arguing that FSU has never used the 1857 date? These sources  and  show that it has.--Cúchullain t/c 12:05, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Please assume good faith. I truly do not understand why this has become such an issue. The new source supports my edit entirely, I'll be adding that in soon.--Cúchullain t/c 15:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've added your cite, and my note now says literally nothing that doesn't appear there. I feel we really ought to explain why there are two founding dates, as it really confused me when I first saw them.--Cúchullain t/c 15:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven't shown good faith.  All you have done is: 1. - Remove peer-reviewed information from the History of Florida State University article in a surreptitious manner.  Editors operating in good faith are transparent and discuss what they are doing when they do it.  Only when challenged did you admit what you deleted.  2. - Try and inflame an old college rivalry dispute and edit war by deleting a solid reference and link to the State Archives of Florida and replace it with irrelevant dispute-related information.  3. - When you are given a credible reference of the nature of the dispute and the fact it affects UFlorida as well as Florida State, you show only determination to damage the FSU page in a fresh guise of helpfulness.  Please note that this FSU page has been reviewed multiple times by seemingly unbiased editors, even twice for GA status, yet no other editor showed the slightest interest in discussing or covering a very ignorable controversy.  4. - As an editor you show no intention of proportionality, in that obviously this date change affects UFlorida as well, but the date on the UFlorida page remains unremarked and bears no footnote, showing your biased cognizance of the actual dispute.  This fact alone points plainly to your agenda to besmirch a rival university's Wikipedia pages.  You don't act confused at all, you act caught with your fingers in the cookie jar.  Please stop.  Your contributions on these pages are not helpful.
--Sirberus (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is ridiculous, just ridiculous. The only thing I removed from History of Florida State University was not "peer reviewed", it was one sentence of entirely unsourced original research, added by you. My edit could be seen by anyone. I have no intention of "inflaming an old college rivaly dispute", but it seems certain single-purpose editors are determined to see any edit they don't agree with as an affront. This is horribly unproductive: no one owns this article. On the Good Article reviews: so? Things get missed all the time. I see you haven't stopped editing the article simply because it has been reviewed. On the University of Florida, it already explains the issue with the founding date. Please do your research before casting aspersions and ridiculous ad hominem attacks. However, I will be adding the same source you added to the University of Florida page. I doubt it will be seen as an affront to the school's good name.--Cúchullain t/c 21:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, the St. Pete Times source, which you brought up here, is a better source than the timeline by any measure. The entirety of what the timeline says is: "1851: Legislature passes bill to create two colleges, the West Florida Seminary (later became Florida State University) and the East Florida Seminary (later the University of Florida)." That's it. The Times article, on the other hand, discusses the issue of the founding dates in detail.--Cúchullain t/c 22:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I see you have finally added a footnote to the UF pages - good.  Now you should put back the Timeline reference to the FSU cite as it is authoritative.  Further, I hope you now realize this dispute is one of those things best left to the dustbin of history.  No one cares about this stuff except FSU and UF supporters and it doesn't rate as encyclopedia material.  --Sirberus (talk) 12:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't an intercollegiate rivalry dispute, you're turning it into one by insisting that any edits you don't agree with must be "anti-Florida State" and "pro-UF". I suppose this isn't surprising for someone who has made few, if any, edits not related to Florida State. Any reasonable editor can see that the University of Florida article already discussed the founding date. Currently footnote 5. The note I added to the infobox is basically redundant with what was there already. Additionally, anyone familiar with our no original research and verifiability policies would agree that I was justified in removing your unsourced OR from the History of Florida State article. To return to the contention at this article, I am not going to restore the timeline, for the simple reason that it doesn't support what you want it to support. It doesn't say that 1851 is the date FSU was founded, or even that FSU claims that to be when it was founded, it just says "1851: Legislature passes bill to create two colleges..."--Cúchullain t/c 13:14, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: More ad hominem nonsense from a veteran single-purpose account. I'm not rising to it. Perhaps one day you will understand that not all people in the world can be neatly categorized as rabid Florida State or University of Florida fans, and that good edits like this one don't become bad based on where someone went to school. Perhaps you will also come to understand that people don't typically respond well to such a confrontational and captious attitude. I've added the timeline as a second source in the infobox, despite it not saying what you believe it says; hopefully this ends this ridiculous dispute.--Cúchullain t/c 13:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at it, my edit to History of Florida State was obscured only due to a text wrapping issue. This was the result of your misuse of the markup in that section.--Cúchullain t/c 13:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for perfecting the note regarding the date change issue.  Good job.  I think it tells a pretty good story now and is reasonably accurate.  As far as I'm concerned our discussion on this date issue is at an end.  I do have to wonder, though...if your initial deletion was concealed as a result of a text wrapping issue, and allegedly due to my ineptness with page markup, why do you mention such a thing now?  Wouldn't it have made better sense to have addressed such a thing immediately, as when I commented about it some three days ago on your talk page?  Our initial discussions were not confrontational nor unfriendly.  Further, I don't expect our future conversations regarding the improvement of the History of Florida State University to be anything but cordial.  If you feel otherwise, you may wish to step back from the articles.  --Sirberus (talk) 02:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't notice what had happened exactly until I looked into it again yesterday. The whole thing would have been avoided if you had simply assumed good faith, as is expected of all Wikipedia editors, instead of assuming that I had magical edit-hiding powers and was using them to conceal a nefarious anti-FSU agenda. Avoid this in the future and there won't be any further problems. I am confident things can proceed in a more collegial fashion from here on.--Cúchullain t/c 13:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predecessor Institutions and Dates -  FSU and U Florida 

message: I rewrote the paragraph on Florida University/University of Florida to more accurately reflect what the sources say. According to these sources the West Florida Seminary did not become the Florida University, it became part of it (specifically it was the Literary College). It still had its own charter and independent organization within the University, which also included a medical college and intended to establish three other colleges. Additionally, the medical college did not move to Jacksonville until after the legislative session recognized the university as "University of Florida" but denied any additional support for the venture (the previous version implied it happened before).--Cúchullain t/c 14:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems a distinction without a difference, since the med school was housed in the same building as the Literary College in Tallahassee.  Indeed, the WFS and the med school were the University of Florida, as both were housed in the WFS buildings on Gallows Hill.  Of all the colleges in the early University of Florida, two became reality: The Literary College (WFS) and the med school (housed at WFS).  See: http://fulltext10.fcla.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=fhp;cc=fhp;sid=14d35a0780b2b3a9279b419651c08556;q1=florida;q2=university;q3=catalogue;q=florida%20university%20catalogue;op2=and;op3=and;rgn=works;rgn1=full%20text;rgn2=full%20text;rgn3=full%20text;idno=FS00000035;a=48;view=jpg;node=FS00000035%3A5;seq=7
As to why the University of Florida (1883) was underfunded by the legislature...a guess on my part is that the citizens resented "carpetbaggers" telling them what to build and just waited them out.  --Sirberus (talk) 01:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I think there is a difference, in that the sources say pretty clearly that the Seminary was the Literary College of the University, and kept its own charter and organization within the university. As it played out the difference didn't amount to much, as the state wouldn't fund the project, and the medical college relocated and the other colleges were never created. But it's still an interesting footnote, and one we should get right.--Cúchullain t/c 03:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "First university"

message: Hey guys, I feel that the current seal at the top of the page could be improved. The actual seal is low resolution and the "Florida State University" subtitle is redundant. 
I replaced it only to have it reverted back, with the edit summary saying that this topic has been discussed already before. However, I've searched through the archives and found nothing about it. I feel that the seal above more appropriately coincides with other successful university articles. See: University of Washington, University of Arizona, University of California, Los Angeles.
Should we update it?  Gonk (talk) 06:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FSU seal 

message: So I was reading through the greek section and noticed that Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma were both mentioned in there but Phi Mu Alpha and Sigma Alpha Iota were not. All four are music fraternities officially recognized by the university. I don't know much about greek life and I'm not sure if there's a reason if they aren't on there so I thought I'd ask. Is there a reason? Ayzmo (talk) 01:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Fraternities 

message: Current: For over 50 years the Florida State University has operated a broad curriculum program in Panama City, Panama.[122] Students have full facilities, including the largest English-language library in the Republic of Panama, academic counseling, computer facilities, housing, research facilities, a gymnasium, and a cafeteria. The student population is generally international and comes from the United States, the Republic of Panama and other countries.
The Florida State University also operates year-round, semester programs in Florence, Italy; London, England and Valencia, Spain.[123] It also offers shorter programs abroad in Cairns, Australia; Salvador, Brazil; Tianjin, China; San José, Costa Rica; Dubrovnik, Croatia; Prague, Czech Republic; Napo, Ecuador; Oxford, England; Paris, France; Dublin, Ireland; Tokyo, Japan; Amsterdam, Netherlands; Moscow, Russia; and Leysin, Switzerland.[123]
Requested Edit:Florida State University’s International Programs (FSU IP) is nationally recognized on a consistent basis as one of the top 15 study abroad programs in the US. Over 1,600 students study abroad each year among the many locations offered. Students achieve FSU credit while completing coursework and gaining a true cultural experience. Notable university faculty and guest scholars from both FSU and the host countries teach the classes, in English. Each of the programs features intimate class sizes along with university guided learning excursions that enhance the program course work. 
Florida State University has four of it’s very own study centers: London, England; Florence, Italy; Valencia, Spain; Panama City, Republic of Panama. All of these can be attended year-round during either the Fall, Spring, or Summer semesters and they each have a full-time on-site staff along with their own FSU building. Students are accommodated with housing with other students in their program. FSU also offers the opportunity for students to participate in shorter programs over the summer in Argentina, Brazil, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Ecuador, France, Israel, Peru, Russia, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and Uruguay.
FSU International Programs also has the availability for both graduate and undergratuate students to attain an internship abroad. Placement is offered in Sydney, Australia; London, England; Florence, Italy; Panama City, Republic of Panama; Iquitos, Peru; and Valencia, Spain and generally over 13-week programs. 
Reason for edit: The current gives adequate detail on the Panama City program and would make it seem as if this is FSU's main study abroad site, when in reality, all sites are equally as important. An edit gives more insight into all International Programs and the broad scope of them. 
Kaseylizbeth (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit semi-protect: International Programs 

message: Current: For over 50 years the Florida State University has operated a broad curriculum program in Panama City, Panama.[122] Students have full facilities, including the largest English-language library in the Republic of Panama, academic counseling, computer facilities, housing, research facilities, a gymnasium, and a cafeteria. The student population is generally international and comes from the United States, the Republic of Panama and other countries.
The Florida State University also operates year-round, semester programs in Florence, Italy; London, England and Valencia, Spain.[123] It also offers shorter programs abroad in Cairns, Australia; Salvador, Brazil; Tianjin, China; San José, Costa Rica; Dubrovnik, Croatia; Prague, Czech Republic; Napo, Ecuador; Oxford, England; Paris, France; Dublin, Ireland; Tokyo, Japan; Amsterdam, Netherlands; Moscow, Russia; and Leysin, Switzerland.[123]
Requested Edit:Florida State University’s International Programs (FSU IP) is nationally recognized on a consistent basis as one of the top 15 study abroad programs in the US. Over 1,600 students study abroad each year among the many locations offered. Students achieve FSU credit while completing coursework and gaining a true cultural experience. Notable university faculty and guest scholars from both FSU and the host countries teach the classes, in English. Each of the programs features intimate class sizes along with university guided learning excursions that enhance the program course work. 
Florida State University has four of it’s very own study centers: London, England; Florence, Italy; Valencia, Spain; Panama City, Republic of Panama. All of these can be attended year-round during either the Fall, Spring, or Summer semesters and they each have a full-time on-site staff along with their own FSU building. Students are accommodated with housing with other students in their program. FSU also offers the opportunity for students to participate in shorter programs over the summer in Argentina, Brazil, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Ecuador, France, Israel, Peru, Russia, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and Uruguay.
FSU International Programs also has the availability for both graduate and undergratuate students to attain an internship abroad. Placement is offered in Sydney, Australia; London, England; Florence, Italy; Panama City, Republic of Panama; Iquitos, Peru; and Valencia, Spain and generally over 13-week programs. 
Reason for edit: The current gives adequate detail on the Panama City program and would make it seem as if this is FSU's main study abroad site, when in reality, all sites are equally as important. An edit gives more insight into all International Programs and the broad scope of them. 
Kaseylizbeth (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it but it needs sourcing. I guess I could try to source it but if you could that would be cool.Ayzmo (talk) 21:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit semi-protect: International Programs 

message: I'm currently working on a rewrite of the history section for the Marching Chiefs page and it can be found here. Feel free to make comments on the talk page for it. Also, it is quite difficult to find sourcing for some of the stuff in there since it was originally directly from the Chiefs website. Any help with sourcing would be awesome. Ayzmo (talk) 16:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marching Chiefs History 

message: Mister Tog (talk) 02:58, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated USNews rankings to reflect 2012 results

message: * http://www.facilities.fsu.edu/Planning_Space_Management/Documents/Maps/MC_CampusMap.pdf
** http://www.webcitation.org/65dLm1bw6
WhisperToMe (talk) 04:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Campus map

message: Please change "USNWR Public Affairs" ranking (located under "FSU Rankings") from #27 to #16:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/florida-state-university-134097
216.173.185.34 (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Thank you! Mdann52 (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 2 August 2012 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Florida State University's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "History":
From Sigma Lambda Beta: 
From Delta Sigma Theta: 
From East Carolina University: 
From History of Florida State University: 
From Florida Atlantic University: 
From Clemson University: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Florida State University]] 

message: Notable Alumni:  Jeff Hansen, Senior Vice President, Southeast Operations, Xerox Corporation (1978, BS Marketing).
13.13.137.1 (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: No indication that this individual meets Wikipedia's notability standards. Rivertorch (talk) 19:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 February 2013 

message: The list of buildings is https://www.facilities.fsu.edu/Planning_Space_Management/Documents/Lists/Building_Lists.xls - http://www.webcitation.org/6GKk63r3w 
WhisperToMe (talk) 07:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Building lists 

message: Looking at the three citations provided as support for the claim that Florida State is the state's Flagship University...two of them do not mention Florida State University at all, and the third is a 2006 US News tuition article in which it includes Florida State as one of "75 flagship public universities".  A general internet search of local newspapers from different areas in Florida also reveals the erratic titling of numerous Florida universities as "flagship universities" or "one of the state's flagship universities", including USF, FSU, UNF, UCF, FAU,  and FIU. However, the authoritative source on the matter (the State University System of Florida's Board of Governors) names only the University of Florida as the state's Flagship University, even as recently as 2013 (http://www.flbog.edu/about/_doc/budget/tuition/2012-13-College-Board-Tuition-and-Fees-By-State.pdf).  The Associated Press states the same (http://www.flbog.edu/pressroom/newsclips_detail.php?id=23996), and other colleges in the state confirm UF as the flagship university of the state (http://www.flbog.edu/about/_doc/fbd/FAMU-alumni-pappas-response.pdf).  This is consistent with the understanding that the term "flagship" is, by definition, superlative.  There cannot be two universities which are both that state's Flagship University, as evidenced by the Higher Education Coordinating Board's Comparative Study for the State of Washington's WSAC (http://www.wsac.wa.gov/sites/default/files/TuitionandFees2009-10Report-Final.pdf), the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies Health Policy Institute, the Dellums Commission (http://www.jointcenter.org/hpi/files/manual/Black%20Male%20Students%20at%20Public%20Flagship.pdf), College Board's most recent Annual Survey of Colleges (http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/state-tuition-and-fees-flagship-universities-2012-13-and-5-year-percentage-change-tuition).  Are there any reliable cites from authoritative sources (e.g. not the Tampa Tribune calling USF a flagship university) that shows that Florida State holds the title of Florida's flagship university?  If not, with all indications and evidence (including the state's Board of Governors) pointing to the University of Florida alone holding the title, I believe the flagship claims for FSU should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PalmaCeiaJD (talk • contribs) 03:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the challenged material again. PalmaCeiaJD is quite right that the cited materials don't verify what they're claimed to verify. The term "flagship" is subjective and obviously controversial, at least in Florida, and it has no official status or definition in the state. As such it's best to keep it out to avoid WP:BOOSTERISM.--Cúchullain t/c 15:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Will you be removing similar references from the UFla article and any other references in Florida university as well, or just here?  Sirberus (talk) 16:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As it happens, I did remove the "flagship" references from the University of Florida article, not that it matters particularly to the state of this article. I'm not aware of similar references in other articles on Florida universities.--Cúchullain t/c 16:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Cuchullain.  :-)  I can work with the references we have to establish the issue and balance. Sirberus (talk) 16:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that all it needs to say is that it FSU, along with UF and USF, is one of the state's "research flagships" as declared by the state legislature. Beyond that, the term "flagship" doesn't mean anything in the state, and it smacks of boosterism.--Cúchullain t/c 17:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If even that.  I really think the "flagship" matter, and the establishment date issue minimize our university system.  Honestly, if ever there were two schools cut from the same cloth it's these two.  Sirberus (talk) 19:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Sorry but the FBOG doesn't control this or any other Wikipedia article.  If other reliable sources count UF, FSU, or any other institution as a flagship then that deserves consideration.  The FBOG's position should be noted in the proper place and in the proper manner but we have not - and likely will not - settle on a definition of this term that only relies on state legislation and executive action.  Once again, the term is a broad one that has entered the public lexicon and our description of the term must reflect that fact. ElKevbo (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: ElKevbo, the Florida Legislature and/or Florida Board of Governors have the sole authority to declare an official flagship university for Florida.  While Wikipedia, as a private website, may have this or that as an example of a so-called "flagship" university in the view of the various (mostly anonymous) Wikipedia editors, it most certainly is NOT official, nor even officially representative of public policy in Florida. This distinction is important as at least one editor on Wikipedia has represented a reference in this area as official State policy of Florida, which proved completely untrue. Sirberus (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: More to the point, some sources or quotes describing FSU in passing as a "flagship" doesn't justify including it here. Some state university systems have actual flagship schools or campuses; in the context of Florida, the term is just puffery.--Cúchullain t/c 12:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The best solution is to clarify it. Say that third party sources describe the school as such, when there is no official classification in the state system. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: So now FSU and UF are Florida's "preeimenent" universities by law (the best way, imho to declare such).  There may be others but not now and not in the forseeable future.  Can we call these schools "flagship" universities in good conscience? Sirberus (talk) 11:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, all we can say is what the sources say: that the schools pass the state's criteria for "preeminence" and receive additional funding.--Cúchullain t/c 12:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Florida Board of Governors re:Flagship

message: Hello, it has come to our attention here at Goldstein Library that we are not listed under the libraries section of the Wikipedia page.We would like to be added under the Music Library with a short description: 
The Harold Goldstein Library has a collection of materials of library and information studies, information technology, and juvenile and young adult literature. As one of 6 libraries on campus we are open to the entire FSU community. 
Please hotlink our website to the verbiage "Goldstein Library" at the beginning of the description. The website link is: http://goldstein.cci.fsu.edu/ 
We would also like to add an image to our description. Please advise us as to how to send you an image. We can be reached at library@cci.fsu.edu
Thank you, 
Pam Doffek
Director of the Goldstein Library    
128.186.73.58 (talk) 15:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: Wikipedia doesn't place external links inline in articles. Please see Help:Files for technical advice about uploading images and Wikipedia:Image use policy for important information about restrictions on image use. Note that FSU's Maguire Medical Library also should be added (apparently there are seven libraries, not six). If no one else gets to it first, I'll try to add a short paragraph on each later this week. Rivertorch (talk) 06:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Be glad to help. Sirberus (talk) 03:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added some detail and a reference concerning the Goldstein Library. Sirberus (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 30 August 2013 

message: The total headcount needs to be updated to reflect fall 2014. http://www.ir.fsu.edu/studentinfo.cfm?ID=time or http://www.ir.fsu.edu/student/headcount.htm
The school colors also need to be updated. They have now included black and white to better represent the Seminole tribe. They exact colors are on these two websites: http://unicomm.fsu.edu/brand/applying/colors/     and      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Seminoles  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeminoleNation (talk • contribs) 18:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated total headcount 2014 and updated school colors 

message: Needs list
*The Florida State University needs updated pictures of campus as they are mostly from 2008. Pictures showing the Leach Recreation Center and the Oglesby union are a top priority because the current pictures look outdated. 
*The individual pages of Florida State's colleges/schools are mostly stubs and need much more information and descriptions of the colleges such as programs and accolades. 
*There should be a new page describing the Florida State University Libraries system like the UF page has. 
*I also believe that there should be separate pages for alumni and faculty of the university. 
*There should also be a FSU buildings page like other universities have. 
I can't do this all myself. Any help making this article greater would be extremely appreciated. Thank you--SeminoleNation (talk) 05:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greatest needs and areas of improvements of the Florida State University page. 

message: What's the Hex Triplet of Florida State University's Garnet color?--BigMac1212 (talk) 04:45, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if you look in the Florida State University, you'd see that it is #CEB888 which produces . That source can be found here. Corkythehornetfan 20:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florida State University's Garnet Color 

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message: Request to add Florida State Heisman Winners to Football section of the page
http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/heisman/heisman_trophy_winners.htm
Garyjohncrilly (talk) 16:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y  S A Y L E S  22:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2016 

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message: I would like to make a separate page for the Askew Student Life Center for a class project. I will link it to the Florida State page and cite all my sources. I want to no redirect to the Florida State page when being searched initially. 
Zacamora (talk) 21:02, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Doing that does not require editing this article. It is unlikely that the Askew Student Life Center satisfies Wikipedia's notablity requirements. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2016 

message: I would like the Askew Student Life Center to not be redirected to the Florida State page. I am trying to do a class project on the ASLC for my ENC4404 class and would like the ability to make an in-depth wikipedia page that links to the ASLC website and FSU wikipedia page.
Zacamora (talk) 00:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a similar request already answered above. If you're referring to Askew student life center, take it to WP:RfD. — Andy W. (talk) 01:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2016 

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