Talk:Assyrian homeland

message: The content on this page seemed really insightful and aligned well with the referenced articles. I would choose better pictures to show the "homeland" and not borders of an Assyrian triangle. 
Happyracoon (talk) 19:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

message: shouldn't this article be merged with this one: Assyrian Triangle? This article seems to be developed better, so I think that that article should be merged into this one.. Baristarim 10:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assyrian triangle was an area in history - thus their is no assyrian triange today. This page, Assyrian homeland, is talking about the current areas inhabited by Assyrians. I think the Assyrian triange should be redirected to Assyrian independence, and be mentioned in that article. Chaldean 00:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I also think that might be better in that case. Baristarim 11:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense to me as well.  I recommend the above merger with Assyrian independance.Alex Jackl 17:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: If someone is going to assert population figures they should add a in-line reference.  If anyone needs help with how to do that feel free to contact me. I found a reference when I was posting a message on Chaldean's talk page.  It is always better to put citations in the article where they can be directly scrutinized.  Thanks!Alex Jackl 00:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population figures 

message: This article has been redirected to Nineveh plains since after taking out the unreferenced and irrelevant content there isn't much basis for the article. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 09:46, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a fork, see comment. Shmayo (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: You redirected it saying it was a fork, which it's not. Shmayo (talk) 10:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Removing that much material is vandalism. But still your redirect is saying it's a fork, which is still false. Shmayo (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: No, you are removing material which was sourced. Keeping the sources but not what they referred to is wrong. This is starting to look like vandalism, you're removing everything that you don't like. Start making constructive edits. Shmayo (talk) 11:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: For example I gave you sources saying Assyrians were in majority in some areas at the Nineveh Plains talk page, but you're removing things here saying they're unreferenced. Shmayo (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: And you're removing a source saying "it's not mentioning the Assyrian homeland" when it does. Shmayo (talk) 11:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I did explain some above. , the area is called Assyria sometimes.  (not commented), I can't see why the categories are removed. Greater Syria could be removed, maybe Roomrama too.  Again, much is sources in other articles here too. And the last sources is mentioning saying much of this.  Why removed the thing about that it was the homeland of the ancient Assyrians too? Again showing that it's been called Assyria.  I find it interesting to know what's happend to Assyrians in the Assyrian homeland.  As I said, it does mention that! So that is very wrong.  Redirecting it as a fork when it's not. Shmayo (talk) 11:50, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: But I've already commented everything? Shmayo (talk) 11:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: It's about reaching conscious. Assyria is for example used here , and it's very often used by Assyrians, which of course also counts. If Assyrians call their homeland Assyria that should be said. So both others and Assyrians is saying that. Shmayo (talk) 12:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: (Wikipedia:CYCLE is not a guideline or principle in any way, just a method. Shmayo (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I've already done so above. Secondly, read more why it should stay. Shmayo (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: The sources even uses Assyria as head line, and shows a map, so why act like they don't use Assyria. And again, it's not just that, read what I wrote before. Shmayo (talk) 12:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Again, it's even the head line there. It's posted by UNPO.org. Still your ignoring the first I wrote about Assyria. And remember that the area was called Assyria even after the fall of empire. I won't be able to reply in a couple of hours, I'll answer you then. Shmayo (talk) 14:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Who is the one ignoring things here? You still have not answered to what I first said about Assyria. I'll quote: "and it's very often used by Assyrians, which of course also counts. If Assyrians call their homeland Assyria that should be said. So both others and Assyrians is saying that.". "They are defined as unrecognized therefore nobody recognizes them nor their names" No, it's not like nobody exept Kurds recognize the name "Kurdistan". The same here. The articles name isn't Assyria, because it's not a recognized state/autonomous. It's called Assyrian homeland, but it's worth to mention that it's called Assyria too (doesn't matter if it is by others or Assyrians). Now this is a neutral source. According to you it's written by AUA, but it says nothing about that. And again, the area have been knows as Assyria after the fall of the empire. Beth Nahrin could be removed here. Shmayo (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Roomrama could be interesting, but sure it can be removed. I think that the categories fits here. Shmayo (talk) 09:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

text: The categories, not Greater Syria. Why would those categories fit here? Shmayo (talk) 19:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Well it's in the Fertile Crescent too? So why remove that one? Shmayo (talk) 19:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Filling categories with pages is how you build a big category. I don't think articles should be left out from some categories just because there is a similar one that also could be used. Yes, I do. Do you want to remove that part just because it's about Chaldean Catholics? Shmayo (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I think it's talking about Assyrians in the Assyrian homeland. The situation of the people in the area is interesting. I think that "Assyrian homeland" could mean Assyria. Some people are maybe looking for Assyria, then it's good to have it there. About the sentence and Geography section, there are many describing these parts as the home of Assyrians: . But Lebanon could be removed. Shmayo (talk) 15:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

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message: Recent edits here seem to have crammed half of Assyria into this page (why? and without attribution) so that the editor involved can then suggest removing Assyria (why?). It may be redundant to say I don't think this is a good idea. 
Ping   who are dealing with the same editor elsewhere. Pinkbeast (talk) 02:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest you to propose a merge. Also, please refrain from adding unsourced content to some Assyria related articles, otherwise, a topic ban can be proposed. Even if you think that what the sources say is wrong, please keep in mind that Wikipedia goes with what reliable published sources state, not with users' personal opinions. Thank you.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 08:15, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: Hi, its Nemrud91, l have stopped rewriting assyrian homeland with assyria. BUT, l would want assyria to be merged with assyrian homeland because as l am myself assyrian and l know my history l know its not necessary to have two "assyria". If we would have some sort of autonomy or a country in the future assyria homeland will be our country, also why have two assyria, its not necessary, assyrian homeland IS assyria! please discuss this with me because l am an expert on assyrian and mesopotamian history, having read about it in 5-9 years. I have read and finished my studies on university in sweden two years ago on history. I know a lot of world history having read about everyone, well most of them.
If you dont like the idea of merging them, its okay, its just a suggestion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemrud91 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge assyria with assyrian homeland please

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message: Although the article is already pretty well developed, it would be better if it showed a map displaying the size of the Assyrian homeland. Not only would the quality of the article improve but also, other articles covering the boundaries of a certain culture/ethnicity have a map displaying the borders, prevalence, and size of the lands that the ethnicity has a presence on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4FF5:240:410E:7E1B:2DC9:2344 (talk) 01:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add an image showing the boundaries of the Assyrian homeland 

message: Shouldn’t the Assyrian homeland wikipedia page show, after all, the Assyrian homeland? Why would we need a picture of any proposed borders or where the most Assyrians lived? Our homeland is northern Iraq, northeastern Syria, southeastern Turkey and northwestern Iran, not a weirdly shaped Assyrian triangle. I think it should be replaced with a more accurate map of the Assyrian homeland which includes parts of our homeland that are in the modern countries listed above. Romanassyria (talk) 01:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Romanassyria This is also something that bothered me, the picture is useful and informative but there should also definitely be a picture showing the Assyrian homeland. Duchy2 (talk) 08:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change homeland map/picture?