Talk:HMS Dorsetshire (40)

message: WT:MILHIST#Mystery Photograph Cross-posted here to request help. WCMemail 09:03, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mystery Photograph 

message: As a British vessel, shouldn't all units be presented in Imperial units converted to Metric? Mjroots (talk) 20:37, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Metres first?

message: Which of wikipedia's rules does a reasonable request for a citation of an unsubstatiated statement break?
:You could start by reading the sources cited... Parsecboy (talk) 21:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So I have to read a list of 14 books that may or may not include that information? Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you understand how footnotes work? Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can see there are two footnotes that refer to the numbers of Dorsetshire survivors that were rescued, but nothing that covers the unsupported "magazine detonation". Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, let me make it clear to you: the two footnotes cover the entire paragraph. This is fairly basic citation stuff. Parsecboy (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

text: It’s a fairly big claim to be made without reference to where it actually came from. Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:08, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No I'm a new user to wiki I'd be grateful for the fruits of your knowledge. Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:09, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That paragraph has two little superscript numbers in brackets at the end: "[34][35]" You can click those to see what footnotes they correspond to. That will tell you what sources are being cited for the contents of that paragraph. Parsecboy (talk) 21:10, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I see the references to Campbell & Rohwer with regard to the numbers of Dorsetshire suvivors picked up, but nothing for the claim of a magazine detonation. Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As I have said twice now, the two citations cover all of the material in the paragraph. And if you doubt me, you are free to go check them both, not all 14 sources cited in the article. Parsecboy (talk) 21:17, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In other words, if you’re asking that the same citations are repeated for every single sentence in the paragraph, no, that is nonsensical and we won’t be doing that. Parsecboy (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a copy of "Conway's All the world's fighting ships, 1922-1946" as described in the footnotes, and the "citation" given (pages 2 - 85) is a general section giving gerenal details of the various classes of ship in the Royal Navy between those dates, and the section regarding RN Heavy cruisers gives NO reference to a supposed magazine detonation onboard Dorsetshire. Pro Patria et Comitatu (talk) 21:25, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Turn to page 27 and look about halfway down the page… Parsecboy (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Although strangely the "Norfolk" class in my edition is on page 28... but yes I've spotted the reference. Best wishes. 92.15.211.142 (talk) 21:35, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

text: I've now found the details in the book. Thank you for pointing out the footnotes. 92.15.211.142 (talk) 21:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Magazine detonation