Talk:Albrecht von Wallenstein

message: I've switched here from the endless German text in the hope to get concise information and not to spend a whole afternoon got et information about this one topic.
--Werfur (talk) 08:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Expand this article?

message: Is there a source for this Quote? I find it hard to believe that someone spoke of a united Germany at that time. There was a german language and being german meant speaking a german language as a native language (used in a broad sense, e.g. the dutch were considered germans) but nothing considered "Germany". Or was he referring to the unity of the empire ("Holy Roman Empire of German Nation")? That would make more sense, as the empire was split by the religous factions. 213.191.70.226 15:54, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: The current article doesn't mention anything else than his military career as a warlord. There's no info how his military career started, no mention about his small "empire" he set up in northern Bohemia, no information how he devalued the currency in Czech lands to obtain more finances for the war. His political maneuvrings are barely mentioned. List of campaigns and battles is missing. Later fate of his wife and children is obviously uninteresting. Pavel Vozenilek 04:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article? 

message: The following link gives some information about Hermanice, Czech Rebpulic:
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/EZ/0/Hermanice4.html
:Well, the official site of Hermanice doesn't even mention the expulsion of the Germans, which is rather strange given the fact that this village was inhabit by Germans for at least 500 years until 1945. So, i wonder how true to the facts they are with the rest of their history. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.181.113.155 (talk) 09:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The official website of Heřmanice does not need to mention it. Anyway, Heřmanice was not a German town, it was a Czech-German town, it was the language border. --Zik2 (talk) 21:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

text: "Born at Hermanic, Bohemia, 24 September, 1583; died at Eger, Bohemia, 24 February, 1634. He belonged to a Czech noble family of Bohemia who were members of the Bohemian Brethren"(). Stammer 18:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Wallenstein, or in fact Valdštejn, was not an ethnic German. Heřmanice was a Czech-German town - it was a Czech-German language border before 1945. So not purly German. Anyway, he came from two Czech noble families - Valdštejnové and Smiřičtí. --Zik2 (talk) 21:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wallenstein's birthplace 

message: In this article, Wallenstein is purportedly killed by a "Walter Butler", an Irish count who was part of his military force, supposedly on orders from Emperor Ferdinand II. Yet, in the "Thirty Years War" article (<a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War), it states he was killed by a "Captain Devereux", who was one of his soldiers, as Wallenstein attempted to make contact with the Swedes.
Anyone have the correct answer, and if so, please update both articles?
Tommy6860 09:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After browsing through two major biographies (those of Golo Mann and Hellmut Diwald), allow me to add some information:
1. his name: spelling in general was not fixed in the 17th century, when the concept of a universal, fixed orthography seemed still very remote. Besides, a name can changed over the centuries, as the language itself changes. According to bis biographers, the name of the family as first recorded in the 13th century, was Waldnstein, of which first Waldstein and later Wallenstein became easier to pronounce varieties. The latter form was used less before Schiller published his famous triology in 1799, but according to Mann, the duke himself signed his name as Wallenstein at least once.  
2. his murderes: the man who rammed a partisane through the unfortunate's duke chest on the night of February 25 was Walter Deveroux, an Irish mercenary captain. Walter Butler was another Irishman, a colonnel of Dragoons, who helped organize this murder, and participated himself in the killing of Ilow, Trčka, and Kinsky. 
3. his nationality: calling him either a Czech or a German would hide the fact that he was equally at home in either culture, spoke both languages, and counted himself among the princes of the Holy Roman Empire - which combined many nationalities in one fragile union. Officially, by the standards of his days, there was no Czech nation as such, there was Bohemia, a constituent state of the Habsburg Monarchy. With respect to statehood and citizenship, there was no such thing as Germany either, only the Empire, and some German states outside it (like East Prussia).
Textor (talk) 23:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: These sources are much too old and rather partisan. Most modern historians believe the Imperial government ordered the killing, and had a cover-story to present afterwards. Johnbod (talk) 14:25, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Prendergast was a land agent and barrister in Dublin, together with his more famous brother John Patrick and a third brother William Paul. All three worked for customers who wanted to corroborate their claims to land ownership. Presumably such a hopeful heir wanted Butler to be exonerated and thus the latter's original huge traitor's reward to appear legitimate. In 1848, Francis traveled to Vienna and Lombardy to find suitable sources. 188.99.141.155 (talk) 15:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wallenstein's Death Inconsistent? 

message: I wondered about the last paragraph before the  'Treachery and death'  section where his guilt of treachery is claimed:
:: 'Wallenstein had, in fact, started preparing to desert the Emperor: he expressed anger at Ferdinand's refusal to revoke the Edict of Restitution. History records little about his secret negotiations; but rumors told that he was preparing to force a just peace on the Emperor in the interests of united Germany, at the same time hesitating — as he used to do in other respects — and trying to stay loyal to the Emperor as far as possible. With this apparent "plan" he entered into negotiations with Saxony, Brandenburg, Sweden, and France. But, apparently, the Habsburgs' enemies tried to draw him to their side. In any case, he gained little support. Anxious to make his power felt, he at last resumed the offensive against the Swedes and Saxons, winning his last victory at Steinau on the Oder in October. He then resumed negotiations.' 
That  'in fact'  Wallenstein was  'preparing to desert the Emperor'  is not verified by a reference. The 'evidence' put forth here seems to be flimsy ( 'rumors told that he was preparing to force a just peace on the Emperor' ), and for whatever reason the very hefty article on Wallenstein in the German Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallenstein) does only mention accusations of treachery. I find it hard to equalise peace negotiations with treachery, not to mention desertion. All told the bombastic  'in fact'  currently seems to rest on contemporary rumours and accussations - but as I'm no expert on Wallenstein or the Thirty Years' War there may be good evidence out there. As it is, however, I suggest adding such evidence (referenced accordingly), and/or modify to reflect accusations of rather than proven treachury. And that he is considered to be guilty by his own 'top brass' (the Emperor) who wants a tougher line against the Protestants, has a replacement ready, and apparently has him assassinated (rather than formally convicted) does not exactly chime well with a wealth of evidence against Wallenstein.
Mojowiha (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wallenstein's treachery? 

message: There is no grammatical or expository reason to italicize current Czech names of formerly ethnic-German localities in the Czech Republic. In English, italics usually denote foreign (non-English) words for things or concepts, but not place names. Since 1945-46, Cheb – formerly known as Eger – has officially been Cheb, not Cheb, and the Czech name should not be italicized.
(The same principle applies to former German names, which also should not be italicized.) Sca (talk) 14:16, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Improper Italicization

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message: Hey there, I just wanted to ask if we should add the historical Reenactments which are done under the Name Wallenstein (e.g. Wallenstein Memmingen (german) or Wallensteinfestspiele Altdorf ) because they are pretty big (eventually the biggest historical Reenactments in Europe) Blablupp (talk) 10:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Historical Reenactments to Legacy 

message: @FromCzech : As you see the German article contains much more info. I do not necessarily mean that it must exactly be copied in the image of the German article; just that it can be expanded from de.wiki. Another possibility could be sub-articles. Synotia (talk) 12:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand from German 

message: An interesting event in the life of Wallenstein is missing.
Note:  Wallenstein was not respected by the Croats and Hungarians.
The missing story, in December of 1626, involves Juraj V Zrinski, a Janissary head, an insult against Wallenstein and then the death of Juraj V Zrinski - allegedly from a poisoned radish given to him on the orders of Wallenstein. 104.158.48.139 (talk) 22:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zrinski and the poisoned radish