Talk:Western United States/Archive 1

message: This vote is now closed. Further votes will not be counted. The result was 6 for redirecting American West to Western United States, 0 for disambig, and 0 for redirecting Western United States to American West. -JCarriker 01:41, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
American West was changed from a redirect to U.S. West, now located at Western United States due to a change in suggested naming conventions by WikiProject U.S. regions, into a duplicate article  on October 29, 2004. American West has been merged with Western United States, but no consensus has been reached over what to do with American West— redirecting to Western United States and disambiging between Western United States and Wild West, have both been proposed. This survey will last from 21:14, July 9, 2005 (UTC) until 21:14, July 12, 2005. Please vote only once. -JCarriker 21:14, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
===Redirect to Western United States===
#-JCarriker 21:14, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
#-Redwolf24 21:38, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What to do with American West survey

message: #-JCarriker 21:14, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
#-Redwolf24 21:38, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect to Western United States

message: Somewhat surprised to see that only one US state has prostitution, according to the caption of one of the article's images. Or does it refer to legal prostitution? jamesgibbon 19:35, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Prostitution

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thread_title:  Rcats needed 

message: I've protected this page for the time being. Please settle dispute on this talk page. --nixie 12:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: I have made a proposal to change the colour of the map box, please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. regions --Qirex 05:38, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Colours and appearance

message: i'm doing research on american western english. this has led me to doing research on various native american indian languages spoken in the american west. this is going to take me a while... Gringo300 10:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: westernisms

message: As was talked about here by , the practice of polygamy was never legal in Utah as both the copy of this article and the graphic with Utah in red seem to imply. I do think that this article should mention the history of polygamy in what became Utah, but until someone writes a nice NPOV paragraph I'm going to remove ", and the only one where polygamy was once legal" and the graphic :Image:Map of USA highlighting polygamy.PNG as they are both factualy incorrect. —A 07:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Polygamy

message: Living in Massachusetts, we learn constantly that New Hampshire has no state income or sales tax (the property taxes are through the roof though). --Quintucket 05:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No State Income Tax

message: A good set of books on geographic and historical regions of the United States is D.W. Meinig's "The Shaping of America", check it out at your library.  Volume 3, "Trancontinental America", focuses on the West.  Meinig's theme is to talk about the American West as so multi-centered as to be better called American Wests.  Although each sub-region is in the west and is in a larger sense part of the American West, they each have distinct histories and different physical geographies.  Thus as a region, the West is much more a collection of sub-regions than is, say, New England.  The sub-regions Meinig delineates are:  California (meaning Gold Rush northern and central California, urban center of San Francisco); Southern California (urban center Los Angeles); Oregon and the Pacific Northwest (Oregon Trail roots; urban center first Portland, later Seattle (and Vancouver BC if you step over the border), and inland, Spokane); Zion/Deseret/Utah (roots in Mormon exodus; urban center Salt Lake City); New Mexico (roots in Spanish colony; urban center first Santa Fe, later Albuquerque); the Colorado Complex (including southern Wyoming; roots in Gold Rush; urban center Denver); and "The Rest of the West", with sub-sub-regions of Nevada, Boise Basin / Idaho, Montana, Wyoming & Black Hills; Arizona.
Just a recommendation of a book that might help people with this clunky article. Pfly 03:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Americans Wests

message: This article has a really strange map. Can anyone give the source? BookCover 15:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has many maps, but you can find information about any image in Wikipedia by clicking on it.- choster 16:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I try to furnish where the images come from. :Image:US map-West.PNG does not indicate where one might go to see the original. For certain, it is not from one of the standard reference works (such as Historical Atlas of the American West). BookCover 00:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "I made this -JCarriker 17:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

text: These maps are designed to incorporate multiple regional defintions of what the West should be. Minnesota is there because parts of it are west of the Mississippi, and at present the WikiProject that issues the maps does not partially shade states for logistical problems. Wisconsin and Illinois were included because one or several sources considered them to be in the West. I will try to find that source for you, meanwhile if you want the map changed please make a request to change it on the WikiProject U.S. regions maps talk page. Thanks. -JCarriker 19:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I can see Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (although I don't agree with them) but under what definition is Louisiana considered the West?  I don't think it's ever been considered that.  The same goes for Arkansas, but less so.  Papercrab 23:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Strange map

message: In which contexts is one likely to see Illinois and Wisconsin described as located in the Western United States? //Big Adamsky 02:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: These maps are designed to incorporate multiple regional defintions of what the West should be. Minnesota is there because parts of it are west of the Mississippi, and at present the WikiProject that issues the maps does not partially shade states for logistical problems. Wisconsin and Illinois were included because one or several sources considered them to be in the West. I will try to find that source for you, meanwhile if you want the map changed please make a request to change it on the WikiProject U.S. regions maps talk page. Thanks. -JCarriker 19:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I can see Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (although I don't agree with them) but under what definition is Louisiana considered the West?  I don't think it's ever been considered that.  The same goes for Arkansas, but less so.  Papercrab 23:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Map is fine, but...

message: Could the "politics" section perhaps be made into its own page/entry? I don't feel that it really fits into the page/entry very well (perhaps it just needs additional development). Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.246.168 (talk) 02:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics

message: Two things I did that I feel important are 1)added the official designation of the West by the Census Bureau and 2) moved these to the top. I am not endorsing one designation of Western states over another, but believe that that the Census's definition is worth mention 
Otherwise I mushed together Demographic article, there probably is a better way to do it. The only thing I sugest is keeping the population data near the top, since this is how articles for the other areas of the US are set up.
Finally, some statistics are from 2000. If someone has more up to date information, it would be nice. Homersmyid 01:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographic Changes

message: I know the main image features the "West" defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, but it seem sto me that other states should be striped, namely Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and North and South Dakota. These states, while not specifically defined by the Census Bureau as such, are often included in the definition of the "West", and I believe therefore should be presented at least as striped. Rai-me 20:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have decided to be bold and re-add the original image. The article clearly mentions states such as Texas and Oklahoma to be a part of the Southwest, which are sometimes included in the general "West". By many classifications, all states west of the Mississippi River are a part of the West. This appears to be the only United States geographic region article that uses the officially defined U.S. census map as a sole main image. In other regional articles, the census image is used along with a "reginal definitions vary..." image, so I do not see why this article should not also do so. Rai-me 
00:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Main image

message: Should I add a list of people who are from the west? (unknown editor)
No.--Atemperman (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists of People