Talk:Río de la Plata

message: I am adding the fact that the Rio de la Plata is the widest river in the world with 219 km where the water becomes salty (source: spanish Wikipedia) in comparison with a maximun of 40km in the wet season for the Amazon and will make a number of additions taken from spanish Wikipedia as well --Lacrymology 07:56:27, 2005-08-05 (UTC)
:Is it really a river? Isn't it an estuary where two rivers join? Its looks like more of a bay than a river -- Astrokey44|talk 21:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Widest river in the world

message: Can someone confirm or elaborate on this bit from the Rio de Janeiro article?
:"There is a legend that the mariners named the place thus because they thought the mouth of the bay was actually the mouth of a river, but no experienced sailor would make that mistake. At the time, river was the general word for any large body of water."
Does this also apply here? See also Talk:Rio de Janeiro. Thanks. Carcharoth 14:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient meaning of Rio in Spanish 

message: I just spotted a problem with the accuracy of a statement relating to dates: "The area was visited by Francis Drake's fleet in early 1588, in the early stages of his circumnavigation."  However, Drake's circumnavigation was completed in 1580.  Any thoughts on how to fix this?  Thanks! Rich Lem 21:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct - should be 1578 as per http://www.bartleby.com/33/41.html Jooler 21:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drake Dates Problem 

message: I commented the very good edit by User:MAG1 because the source cannot be accessed (lack of link, and OED online is accessible only by subscription). Please somebody with a subscription to the OED provide the proper (and public) link or something else to source this text. Thanks! Sebastian Kessel Talk 22:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, for goodness sake: the OED is also available as a book (one of those things with pages made of paper).  It would cost roughly £1,500 to buy: would that stop you citing it?  -- ALoan (Talk) 22:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If you read the text of the link that I provided (here) , that was also commented out by Sebastian, you will see the word being used in that very context in several places. Most UK local authorities have an OED subscription for their public libraries, and all you need to access the site from home is a PIN number for your library card. I can access the link from home using my library card pin number and I have copied the entry for plate, n to here for Sebastians's verification. Jooler 05:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I should really have left the article speedily deleted because it was in the wrong namespace. But I have moved it to user:Jooler/Plate. Please delete it asap (not just blank it) since it is a copyvio. -- RHaworth 06:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops. My mistake in putting it in the main namespace. Jooler 06:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: People seem to be taking things awfully personal here. Mag, I called yours a "Very good Edit", why on earth would you think I am calling you a liar? There is something in WP called VERIFIABILITY. A link that people without subscriptions can't access is not easily verifiable. If the word is so widely used I'm sure that there are other sources, as other users already pointed out. The gang-up on my edit is absolutely ridiculous, especially I since I even took the time to praise the editor for a good change and Thank people for their efforts. I purposely commented the edit (as opposed to removing it) to make it easy to be restored when the link was corrected. I am officially taking this page off my watchlist, the lack of good faith assumptions around this page has exhausted my patience and good will. If somebody wants to reach me about this message, use my talk page. Sebastian Kessel Talk 21:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: PS: Grant, your recent edit to the first sentence, after the million-edit argument (which you were part of) that happened around it is among the worst "sneak attacks" I've ever seen. Alas, since I couldn't care less about this particular page anymore, I won't bother reverting. Sebastian Kessel Talk 21:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's "one of the worst" then you should revert it. I didn't realise that every little edit was supposed to be discussed here. And I really can't see why you would object to my changes. Grant65 | Talk 00:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sebastian Kessel: my apologies if you are taking my comment personally: it was exasperation generally, not directed at you in particular. WP:V does not say that things have to be easily verifiable (except in passing, in saying that English-language sources should be used in preference to non-English sources): it just says that things have to be verifiable; in particular, it does not say anything about things having to be verifiable for free.  Many articles have references from obscure or expensive books, only available in a select few libraries or to wealthy collectors - should these references be removed too?  Assuming that the information came from the online OED then the proper link is to the online OED, subscription or no.  -- ALoan (Talk) 09:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: This article listed the English translation of the river's name as "Silver River," whereas other related articles on Wikipedia such as Río de la Plata Basin give the translation as "River of Silver." Encyclopaedia Britannica incidentally also gives the translation as "River of Silver," so for consistency's sake we should probably use that translation (River of Silver) across all Wikipedia articles that mention this river. 129.236.225.231 (talk) 06:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would we make a conscious decision to use a name that we know is wrong?82.46.147.72 (talk) 18:57, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: @IP user 82.46.147.72: Articles are used differently in different languages. Romance languages use the definite article in many places where it is not used in English; there are too many good examples to list, but I'll confine myself to pointing out that the first sentence of the English-language article Silver begins, "Silver is...", while the Spanish-language article on the same topic, es:Plata, begins, "La plata es...". The most appropriate English rendering of the Spanish phrase "la Plata" in this context is "Silver," not "the Silver."-Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 18:59, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translated name 

message: Does anyone have information on the geology of this geographic feature?  I'm curious if the width of the Río Plata might be due to a possible ancient impact event, possibly similar to the formation of the Chesapeake Bay.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 01:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology? 

message: There's not a single mention of native people in this article. Did nobody live in this area before European arrived? I doubt that... It'll be great if somebody can add a section about indigenous people of the area, the significance of the river to them (either economic, social, religious, etc).
I also checked the Spanish version of this article, and theres a single mention that Solis arrived and was attacked by indigenous people. There's also some mention about Francisco del Puerto living among them, which has it's own wikipedia article (only in Spanish) Felipe (talk) 18:38, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native people