Talk:Byeongsin chum

message: Article edit is totally negative image. omitting major things of this dance. pick a Negative word only. this POV troll intention is "Traditionally, Korea discriminate handicapped person.". 
Again, This dance intention is not for discriminate handicapped person. It's "a satirical drama ". 774townsclear (talk) 06:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't PuSh POV Trolling 

message: Don't pick a negative sentence from source. This dance is a satirical drama. also, do not fabricate 3rd souce. According to 3rd souce contents, They are not Traditional Dancer. They do not work for Koean Traditional dance and Byung shin chum. comedy dance in theater. article said "no one blame similar Traditional dance, but Why blame our dance?" (it means No one blame Byung shin chum. our comdey dance is NOT traditional dance, but similar. Why people blame us?) 774townsclear (talk) 06:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok? Don't put on a fabricate anymore. 774townsclear (talk) 06:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Sourve proved. This dance is not aim for discriminate handicapped person. must write this fact. 774townsclear (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 08:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This dance is not aim for discriminate handicapped person. It's "a satirical drama ". 

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Problem #1: User:774townsclear keeps deleting the reference to the dance's mimicking of the handicapped.
:The dance is called "Byung shin chum," which literally means "the dance of the handicapped." It is a Korean folk dance that was performed by the lower class peasants to satirize Korean nobility (Yangban) by depicting them as the handicapped persons and sick persons such as gimps, midgets, hunchbacks, the deaf, the blind, and lepers, as well as characters from Pansori and other Korean folklore. This is exactly how Encyclopædia Britannica and other notable sources describes the dance:
:*"병신의 몸짓을 흉내내 지배계층인 양반을 병신처럼 풍자하여 추는 모방춤," where "병신" (byung shin) refers to all sorts of the handicapped listed below and "지배계층인 양반" is the ruling nobility (Yangban) class.
:*"여기에는 히줄대기・떨떨이・절름발이 (gimp)・배불뚝이 (pot bellied) ・꼬부랑할미 (old bag bent with age)・곱추 (hunchbacked)・난쟁이 (midget)・벙어리 (deaf)・봉사 (blind)・중풍쟁이 (palsy) ・문둥이 (leper) 등이 나오는데 덧배기가락에 맞추어 혼자 또는 짝짓거나 무리지어 한바탕 난장을 벌인다."
:Mimicking of the handicapped is what makes this dance Byung shin chum. Deleting the reference of it makes no sense (see the 774townsclea version for comparison).
Problem #2: User:774townsclear deletes the  paragraph on the discrimination allegation of the dance.
:He deletes the following paragraph: In 2001, Byung shin chum played by a Korean theatrical group in Daehangno has caused a controversy that the play could be discriminatory and offensive toward the handicapped. The Research Institute of the Differently Abled Person's Right in Korea (RIDRIK) expressed that although the freedom of expression is important in art, the form that makes fun of the alienated is the problem, and that they will cut off the old customs of the Korean society that humiliate the handicapped. (cf. )
:This is an important issue reported by the Kukmin Daily and merits reference. It doesn't matter if the critics criticized only a modern version of Byung shin chum performed by the Daehangno-based group while condoning its genuine traditional form. As far as it is some kind of Byung shin chum, it is noteworthy in the article. 
Problem #3: User:774townsclear keeps name-calling "Push POV troll," etc.
:This is in violation of Wikipedia:Civility. --Saintjust (talk) 07:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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