Talk:2006–07 in English football

message: Which way round should we be writing the dates on these particular articles? There seems to be inconsistency. Is it day-month-year or month-day-year? Mark272 00:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter, as long as the dates are wiki-linked each user can choose the format he wants dates to be displayed in and wikipedia can handle any reasonable original format Bob Palin 14:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates

message: shouldn't all of the transfer dates be july 1 seeing as noone is technically going anywhere until then?
: No, the dates are fine as they are. Gran2 15:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  transfer dates 

message: Is transfers for this page just for Premiership teams or is it for the Football League as well? arsenalwwerulz 07:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it has been decided that it's Premier League and Football League Championship only. - fchd 15:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yep, I'm afraid not. Just the more prominent teams, as they usually have the more prominent transfers. Although, in the unlikely event that Alessandro Del Piero decides to join Barnet. That will certainly be on here. Gran2 16:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: transfers

message: Is it consensus that the only league Champions etc. on the "xxxx-xx in English football" pages are the top four professional divisions? A lot of the non-league club pages have links to the season pages, but there is nothing of relevance to non-league football on the vast majority of them.
- fchd 15:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure if you wantd to you could, I certainly see no problem at all. As you said, this is the whole of the English football season, so non-league should go here to. Gran2 16:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: League winners etc.

message: "It has been suggested, not by me, that this section be split into a new article titled 2006-07 English football transfer deals."
I thought I would put this on here as the actual user who put the proposed split on the page, didn't add it here. So lets see, I think it is a bad idea. The section serves a better purpose on this page. All the other articles have there transfer section on the season page. Why should this be different? So I say no. Gran2 10:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also say no. I would say no 45 times if it would work more. I think it really was perhaps just the one person who thought that. It really isn't notable enough to have a page dedicated entirely to the transfer dealings. That said, there's an article on the 2007 NFL Draft.--Dreaded Walrus 20:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split article

message: I'm considering trimming this down a bit. It's already really long, and we still have the January transfers, and retirements to come! Any objections? Gran2 14:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It'll be a tough job, but I'd have to say go for it. Perhaps trim the less notable ones, for example David Sommeil, Alan Mahon, *cough* Vincent van den Berg, and only keep the more notable ones, such as Michael Carrick, Andriy Shevchenko, Michael Ballack, among others. The trouble will be with where the line goes between "more notable" and "less notable". Is there perhaps room for an article just for the transfers? I wouldn't think so, but if there was that would make things a bit easier. --Dreaded Walrus 17:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A separate article would probably solve the problem, but chances are it would be deleted. If it did happen we could just have to have a link to the page on this one. Anyway, the way I see it, transfers that arn't that importrant, ones that recieved hardly any media coverage and so on. I'll look through them and see which can go. Gran2 18:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, I finally got around to doing this, these are the transfers I think should go, to cut the section down.
;8 June 2006
*Alan Mahon from Wigan Athletic to Burnley, £200k
;30 June 2006
*Andy Marshall from Millwall to Coventry City, free
*Michael Ricketts from Leeds United to Southend United, free
;12 July 2006
*Yoann Folly from Southampton to Sheffield Wednesday, Undisclosed
*Sam Togwell from Crystal Palace to Barnsley, Undisclosed
;13 July 2006
*Scott Flinders from Barnsley to Crystal Palace, £1m
;14 July 2006
*Pascal Zuberbuhler from FC Basel to West Bromwich Albion, free
;15 July 2006
*Sam Ricketts from Swansea City to Hull City, £300k
;19 July 2006
*Tony Popović from Crystal Palace to Al Arabi, free
;25 July 2006
*Brian Priske from Portsmouth to Club Brugge, Undisclosed
;27 July 2006
*Ian Bennett from Leeds United to Sheffield United, Undisclosed
*Fabrice Muamba from Arsenal to Birmingham City, six-month loan
;2 August 2006
*Matthew Lawrence from Millwall to Crystal Palace, Undisclosed
;4 August 2006
*Ian Westlake from Ipswich Town to Leeds United, £400k
*Dan Harding from Leeds United to Ipswich Town, Swap (part of Westlake deal)
*Alex Bruce from Birmingham City to Ipswich Town, free
*Bradley Jones from Middlesbrough to Sheffield Wednesday, three-month loan
*Tony Warner from Fulham to Leeds United, one-month loan
;7 August 2006
*Mark Yeates from Tottenham Hotspur to Hull City, season-long loan
;8 August 2006
*Simon Charlton from Norwich City to Oldham Athletic, free
;9 August 2006
*Christian Bolaños from Deportivo Saprissa to Charlton Athletic, season-long loan
;11 August 2006 
*Dean Leacock from Fulham to Derby County, £375k
*Lee Martin from Manchester United to Rangers, season-long loan
*Adam Eckersley from Manchester United to Brøndby, six-month loan
;12 August 2006 
*Stephen Bywater from West Ham United to Derby County, season-long loan
;16 August 2006
*Chris Makin from Reading to Southampton, free 
*Albert Jarrett from Brighton & Hove Albion to Watford, free
*Phil Bardsley from Manchester United to Rangers, season-long loan
;17 August 2006
*Jemal Johnson from Blackburn Rovers to Wolverhampton Wanderers, Undisclosed
*Darren Potter from Liverpool to Wolverhampton Wanderers, season-long loan
;23 August 2006
*Kasper Schmeichel from Manchester City to Bury, three-month loan
;26 August 2006
*André Bikey from Lokomotiv Moscow to Reading, season-long loan
;29 August 2006
*Andranik Teymourian from Abu Muslem to Bolton Wanderers, free
;30 August 2006
*Péter Máté from Debreceni to Reading, season-long loan
;31 August 2006 - Deadline Day
*Rodrigo Defendi from Tottenham Hotspur to AS Roma, season-long loan
*Marek Stech from AC Sparta Praha to West Ham United, Undisclosed
*Joel Grant from Watford to Aldershot Town, four-month loan
*Chris Eagles from Manchester United to NEC Nijmegen, four-month loan
*Jon Macken from Crystal Palace to Ipswich Town, four-month loan
*Stuart Green from Hull City to Crystal Palace, £75k
;8 September 2006
*Scott Flinders from Crystal Palace to Gillingham, one-month loan
Are there any others that you think should/shouldn't be on here? Or any other opinions? Gran2 19:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Right its been 20 days now, I'm going to remove all of the above transfers, any objections, then state them here. Gran2 16:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transfer Section

message: Okay, just like the section above, but slightly different, Post-Window Contract Signings, I nominate we change it so that only moves that are permanent are included. I mean all of these loan moves are really insignificant, especially when there only for a few months at the most, I mean:
*Tom Craddock, from Middlesbrough to Wrexham, one-month loan
Come on! I haven't even heard of this guy! So, as I've said in the previous section, this page is getting to long so I say delete the following:
;14 September 2006
*Danny Mills from Manchester City to Hull City, two-month loan
;29 September 2006
*Lee Hendrie from Aston Villa to Stoke City, two-month loan
;5 October 2006
*Jermaine Beckford, from Leeds United to Carlisle United, one-month loan
;10 October 2006
*Alan Wright, from Sheffield United to Leeds United, one-month loan
;16 October 2006
*Adam Johnson, from Middlesbrough to Leeds United, one-month loan
;26 October 2006
*Tom Craddock, from Middlesbrough to Wrexham, one-month loan
;27 October 2006
*Graham Stack, from Reading to Leeds United, three-month loan
;9 November 2006
*Matt Heath, from Coventry City to Leeds United, two-month loan
*Sean Gregan, from Leeds United to Oldham Athletic, two-month loan
;16 November 2006
*Iain Turner, from Everton to Crystal Palace, one-month loan
;17 November 2006
*Gábor Király, from Crystal Palace to West Ham United, two-week loan
Any objections? Gran2 16:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, for the most part. I'd only include permanent transfers and loans of three months or more. HornetMike 13:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Post-Window Contract Signings

message: Just chuck in a few ideas.
*Split the manager changes from the events section, and make a new section. Possibly in table form.
*Add a table chronicling manager/player of the months. Would give the reader an indication of who was on form in a particular month etc (with the reference articles detailing why).
*Split the transfers into a sub-page. I don't especially like pages like this, but the list is massive. The benefit of doing so, I suppose, would be that some of the less significant transfers could be included on the sub-pagae whilst they couldn't here.
Thoughts? HornetMike 13:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed on all three counts. I've been thinking about making a subpage for the transfers for a while, but only for the size factor. As for the other two, certainly. Two really good ideas. Gran2 15:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do you think we should make the split date-wise for the article? Because we need to decide which managers changes are included in which season. I'd suggest 1st July, as it then - or close to it - that most teams report back for pre-season.
Re: tables, I'd suggest the manager table looked a bit like this:
Name           	Club        	Date of departure	Replacement	Date of appointment
Kevin Blackwell	Leeds United	20 September 2006	Dennis Wise	24 October 2006
And the player of the month table like this:
Month    	Premiership                                                   	Premiership                                                       	Championship                                                 	Championship                                                        	League One                                                  	League One                                                  	League Two                                                   	League Two
         	Manager                                                       	Player                                                            	Manager                                                      	Player                                                              	Manager                                                     	Player                                                      	Manager                                                      	Player
August   	Alex FergusonManchester United                                	Ryan GiggsManchester United                                       	Dave JonesCardiff CityCOCO-COLA MANAGERS OF THE MONTH 2006-07	Gareth BaleSouthamptonPOWERADE PLAYERS OF THE MONTH 2006-07         	Colin CalderwoodNottingham Forest                           	Leon ConstantinePort Vale                                   	Dennis WiseSwindon Town                                      	Christian RobertsSwindon Town
September	Steve CoppellReadingCoppell is manager of the month           	Andy JohnsonEverton                                               	Geraint WilliamsColchester United                            	Michael ChopraCardiff City                                          	Brian LawsScunthorpe United                                 	Nicky MaynardCrewe Alexandra                                	Danny WilsonHartlepool United                                	Mark StallardLincoln City
October  	Alex FergusonManchester United                                	Paul ScholesManchester United                                     	Steve CotterillBurnley                                       	Diomansy KamaraWest Bromwich Albion                                 	Alan KnillRotherham United                                  	Billy SharpScunthorpe United                                	John SchofieldLincoln City                                   	Jamie ForresterLincoln City
November 	Steve CoppellReadingCoppell wins manager of the month         	Cristiano RonaldoManchester UnitedRonaldo is handed November award	Billy DaviesDerby CountyRams manager earns November prize    	Darel RussellStoke City                                             	John SheridanOldham AthleticSheridan honoured in League One 	Kris CommonsNottingham Forest                               	Richard MoneyWalsallSaddlers boss lands manager award        	Steve PhillipsBristol Rovers
December 	Sam AllardyceBolton Wanderers                                 	Christiano RonaldoManchester United                               	Steve BruceBirmingham CityBoss Bruce scoops monthly prize    	Jason KoumasWest Bromwich Albion                                    	Simon GraysonBlackpoolGrayson collects monthly accolade     	Paul HeffernanDoncaster Rovers                              	Paul InceMacclesfield TownInce captures award for December   	Dimitrios KonstantopoulosHartlepool United
January  	Rafael BenitezLiverpool                                       	Cesc FabregasArsenal                                              	Billy DaviesDerby County                                     	David NugentPreston North EndNugent lands monthly award             	Sean O'DriscollDoncaster Rovers                             	Enoch ShowunmiBristol CityShowunmi was January's best       	Paul SturrockSwindon Town                                    	Michael NelsonHartlepool UnitedMonthly gong goes to Nelson
February 	Alex FergusonManchester UnitedMan Utd pair win February awards	Ryan GiggsManchester United                                       	Roy KeaneSunderlandKeane earns Championship honour           	Stephen WardWolverhampton WanderersWolves star earns February honour	Nigel AdkinsScunthorpe UnitedAdkins secures League One prize	Joe MurphyScunthorpe UnitedMurphy is handed League One prize	Danny WilsonHartlepool UnitedWilson handed award for February	Wayne HennesseyStockport County
Hennessey's heroics secure award
 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HornetMike (talk • contribs) 15:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, looks very good, I see no problem. Gran2 16:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Right, I'll start building in here and then transplant it over. Feel free to help if you want! HornetMike 14:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done the managerial changes, as you can see in the article, most of them just need citations. I've done then in some sort of time order, but I was thinking that maybe ordering them in leagues would be better. So still looking like it does, just with the premiership moves at the top and so on. Gran2 11:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Nice one. Sorry about not progressing with the player of the month stuff, been quite busy of late. I'm not fussed either way re: ordering of managers, so do as you feel! HornetMike 13:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Any thoughts about adding an extra column into the manager table detailing why they left? Think it would be a good idea or liable to POV (mutual consent etc. is always a bit ambigious). HornetMike 16:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: POV in my eyes. Gran2 16:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't worry about waiting 'til the end of January to do it. Might as well do it now and not have to shift so much information at the end of the month. HornetMike 15:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Right I'll get right on it, I'm calling it List of English football transfers 2006-07, seem fine? Gran2 15:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There we go, all done, lead could use some improvement, and the overall looks of the page isnt perfect, but there we go. Gran2 16:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Nice one, looks good. HornetMike 17:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I have developed a liking for tables now, I have decided to restucture the transfers, (I saying this here as our discussion is ongoing and its as easy place as any).
Like this:
Date      	Name           	Moving from      	Moving to  	Fee (£)
2 May 2006	Grzegorz Rasiak	Tottenham Hotspur	Southampton	£2m
 
Gran2 19:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay its now in the article, any other ideas as to how to maximize this article. Gran2 17:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible improvements for this article

message: I see there's been a bit of a disagreement re: Van Der Sar's injury. I have to say I don't think there's anything notable about it. The difference between this injury and the Cech/Cudicini one is that the latter sparked a media feud between Chelsea/Reading and was extraordinairy because of the extent of the injury to both keepers, and the fact it happened to two keepers in one match. I'd remove the Van Der Sar stuff, but in the spirit of fairness probably get rid of the Niemi injury as well - it looked serious but wasn't really in the end. HornetMike 13:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Van Der Sar

message: There should be something in here about this really, it was massive news and the repercussions are still ongoing, it should at least be mentioned 80.195.80.148 (talk) 15:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy over Tevez

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