Talk:Batak massacre

message: The Batak massacre is currently included in the above list.  Unfortunately, the listing does not conform to the inclusion criteria of that list... which indicate that multiple reliable sources use the word "massacre" as part of a NAME for the event (in other words, multiple reliable sources must call the event the "Batak Massacre", or some close varient thereof).  At the moment the single citation provided backs the idea that the event is discribed as being a massacre, but does not indicate that it is named as such.
If the inclusion criteria are not met, we will have to remove the event from the list... which we would prefer not to have to do.  Since it is likely that those who edit this page will be familiar with the sources, I ask for your help.  Please pop over to the list and provide sources for the name.  Thanks. Blueboar (talk) 11:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing at [[List of events named massacres]] 

message: The article lacks any mentioning of the extensive Russian involvement in staging the April uprising with the intent to cause severe casualties on the local Muslim population and as such justify Russian intervention. The fact is that Russian was behind the chain of events and Bulgarian agents were used, it is wrong to portray this as a spontaneous Bulgarian uprising having in mind that it was not even supported widely by the Bulgarian population it self.  REF: Turkey in Europe. by Baker, James lieutenant-colonel., 1877 and Dr.Hamlin Head of the American Christian Mission in Turkey. There a lot of sources on the matter. Key point of Baker’s claim is that the so called massacres of Bulgarians which was made famous by Gladstone is perpetrated Russian agents dressed as Turks to gain pretence to start another war with the Ottoman Empire to gain territory. This discovery by Baker debunks the whole of Gladstone’s speech. Hittit (talk) 08:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't add your rants to Wikipedia. There is no evidence that the organizers of the April uprising were Russian agents (really the idea that Russia wanted war at this moment is ridiculous, considering their financial situation at the time) apart from the writings of a few British supporters of the Ottoman Empire (and you haven't even given any sources about them, either). Kostja (talk) 11:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Preparation Section and Russian Involvement

message: Kostja you have reitared in the article that Richard, Millman is pro-Turkish. I suggest we go a bit further and clarify that according to the bulk of sources MacGahan is described as extremely pro-Russian and a sensationalist (some newspapers refused to even hire him). Would you like to add this to the article or should I? It is clear that this article has many flaws, but using only pro-Bulgarian views will not bring any further objectivity to an already propagandistincally written article. And lets not forget, BATAK village = meaning "Muddy village" (in Turkish) had the estimate of over a thousand inhabitants, of which many were Muslim. We can start by first clarifiying how could have the Muslim irregulars killed 5000 people in Batak, which never had this amount of Christian population? Even today after the population of Bulgaria has grown over 100% since 1876 the population of Batak in 2009 is shown as less than 3,500. Hittit (talk) 07:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have little desire to discuss your unfounded speculations with you. Why don't you add some reliable sources instead of engaging in idle talk? This is not a forum, you know. Kostja (talk) 09:25, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: POV classification of Sources

message: This entry seems very emotional, one-sided, and biased to a neutral observer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:EC9A:412B:D163:485A (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objectivity? 

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