Talk:Grandfather clock

message: Should we think about a discussion of the different kinds of clock faces? Originally they were brass, and painted faces came later for instance. It's a way of dating a clock. Evertype 10:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion of the article

message: Whoops! Yes, I meant weights, and the additions and correction are most welcome, Adrian! Evertype 19:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two pendulums 

message: The proper name of a Grandfather Clock should be a Longcase Clock.  I haven't heard the story about the hotel clock before, but the "Grandfather Clock" name does come from the nursary rhyme.  JP Godfrey 12:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this; the proper name for these is Longcase Clock, and the redirect should be from Grandfather clock to Longcase clock, not the reverse. Evertype 17:19, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard the term "longcase clock" before and wouldn't be able to imagine what it referred to. Incidentally, the Henry Clay Work song isn't a nursery rhyme; it's too long for that, with several verses and a refrain. Angr (talk • contribs) 19:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't heard longcase clock either. The only reason everything links here rather than to what is now a redirect (grandfather clock) is because they were changed. It seems that this should have been put up for a requested move if someone wished to change it. --Vedek Dukat  Talk 20:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The original and proper name for these is nevertheless Longcase Clock, and there is no reason to revert. Evertype 21:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is proper is not always the most common name, which is the convention Wikipedia uses... Again, you can put it up for a requested move if you'd like to move it to longcase clock rather than grandfather clock. --Vedek Dukat  Talk 06:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I object to your moving the article back. The proper name should be used, and the redirect from grandfather clock should suffice. I kind of want to ask, who are you to revert my moving the article? Moving it was being bold and wasn't done precipitously or rashly, or to make anyone angry. It was done for the sake of accuracy, and undone because you hadn't heard the term before. Evertype 09:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was done because Wikipedia articles are generally under the most commonly used name, not the pedantic one. Until now, there was no mention of grandmother clocks in the move rationale, which I suppose makes sense. The point about using WP:RM was that, when there is disagreement about a name, the move request should go there. --Vedek Dukat  Talk 20:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to rename this article

message: According to Wikipedia's official policy regarding naming conventions, "Generally, article naming should prefer what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." Furthermore, according to Wikipedia's common name naming convention, "When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Wikipedia put into the search engine?" I did a Google search for "longcase clock" and "grandfather clock" and got 46,300 results and 843,000 results, respectively. Note also that the article on Mark Twain is titled "Mark Twain", not "Samuel Langhorne Clemens", even though the latter was his legal name. The article on Billy the Kid is named "Billy the Kid", not "Henry McCarty". This is Wikipedia's official naming policy. Naming this article "Longcase clock" rather than the more popular "Grandfather clock" violates Wikipedia naming policy, even if the former is more correct. --JHP 01:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The correct name as used here doen't "violate" policy, which is a guideline. "Generally" article naming might prefer a common term, but that doesn't mean an article "must" do so. A grandfather clock is only one type of longcase clock. The  redirects get you here from a variety of subtypes of longcase clock. It ain't broke... -- Evertype·✆ 08:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia official naming policy

message: Can anybody fix the first image in this article?  On my browser it appears blank (white).  However he source image on Wikimedia Commons seems to be there.  Can't find the problem. --ChetvornoTALK 23:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If by the first image you mean the photo of the Thomas Ross clock, it looks fine here. -- Evertype·✆ 08:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, guess it's my browser.  Thanks --ChetvornoTALK 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help - broken picture

message: I don't really understand BrokenSphere's edit. The Turkish clock photo is really rather bad, and shouldn't showcase the article. I'd even be OK with deleting it. An English clock from 1790 is a far better example. I'll try to do a rearrange that is more pleasing. -- Evertype·✆ 21:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shifted picture and deleted picture 

message: I've merged the new Comtoise Clock article here; the French original has more information which we can mine for this article. I also translated the Bornholm clock article from the Danish Wikipedia and added it here. -- Evertype·✆ 10:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comtoise and Bornholm clocks 

message: As an antiques dealer myself I have written an article about the history of longcase clocks for my shop's website. I've noticed some inaccuracies in this particular article and feel I could add to it. I have never edited a Wikipedia article before. Would I simply add my content then reference to the article on my site. Is there a protocol on references linking to other websites? Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.141.252 (talk) 17:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can edit, but please do back up your edits with links. So long as your edit is factual and not commercial, it can be acceptable. Sources to printed books are also great. Please consider registering (so you are not identified as an IP address. And when you finish writing on a Talk page (like here) you can sign your post with four tildes ~~~~ and it will convert into your username and timestamp. -- Evertype·✆ 19:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can I edit? 

message: My understanding has always been that a grandfather clock has straight sides and a grandmother clock is narrower in the middle section. Height may also play a part, but the primary difference is the construction. Googling grandfather clock and grandmother clock illustrates the difference nicely.
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JBarta (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  grandfather vs grandmother 

message: Must say, I'm surprised and concerned that ALL the External Links, bar one, are to clock dealers' websites! Doesn't this constitute some form of advertising? Clock dealers add these general information pages to attract people to their websites, increase their search engine ranking and hopefully, buy their products. The other link seems to be a Moving Home blog, which is a bit random to say the least. Shouldn't external links be restricted to non-commercial webpages only? I say this because I recently designed a website for a longcase clock dealer and I'm sure he'd blow a fuse if he discovered his competitors were being advertised by Wikipedia!! Sionk (talk) 22:40, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia's policy on Self Published and Questionable Sources. Sionk (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Continuing the debate with myself(!), if you look at the example of the Wikipedia article on Cuckoo Clocks you'll see the External Links are to non-commercial organisations such as museums and associations. No self-appointed 'expert' clock dealers listed. I'll keep on looking for appropriate authoritative links for the Longcase Clock article (there's the London Guild of Clock Makers, for example). Sionk (talk) 22:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: On 1 October 2012 a description of "grandmother clock" was removed from this article as being unsourced. Now Grandmother clock redirects to this article, which does not mention it at all. WP has no information at all on grandmother clocks. This should be remedied. Chris the speller yack 01:23, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked, and the granddaughter went missing at the same time. Several dictionaries define "grandmother clock" as being about two-thirds the height of a grandfather clock; the dictionary definition alone should keep any sensible editor from removing any mention of it, I think. Chris the speller yack 01:45, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grandmother has gone missing 

message: I've just created the article Oval Office grandfather clock - aka Seymour tall case clock. As far as I'm aware this is the first WP article about a specific/individual longcase clock. I created the :Category:Longcase clocks too, and it now contains that one article and this one. So, I assume that new article should be linked in this one, somewhere, but not knowing this article well I don't want to mess it up. Would someone like to integrate this new specific clock article, or shall I just add it to the 'see also' section? Wittylama 16:20, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oval Office grandfather clock 

message: Re your  recent edit - the weights have to be calibrated?  I've never heard of that. --ChetvornoTALK 04:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weights calibrated? 

message: — Assignment last updated by ALCH3MIST1011 (talk) 20:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Technical Editing

message: While is a pendulum clock, as per the article description, that's not a grandfather clock, it must be taller and reach the floor. That's just a wall pendulum clock... 186.122.180.78 (talk) 14:02, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Clock Picture is not a Grandfather