Talk:Metropolis at Metrotown

message: See this page from Square One Shopping Centre's website and it clearly states that Square One is #2. --Mb1000 04:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: City of Burnaby's website says Metrotown's #2 in Canada (PDF file). This site also concurs. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 04:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Also Ivanhoe Cambridge's property info. Metrotown also has more parking spaces, floors, anchors, stores, and retail space than Square One, according to their respective articles. Carson 04:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: "With the reclassification of the West Edmonton Mall as an entertainment complex, Square One is now the largest retail shopping centre in Canada." Looks like it might be #1 instead of #2 if the website's accurate... Carson 05:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm emailing all three malls to see what they have to say. Maybe I'll get replies tomorrow. The Square One website contradicts itself by saying it's #2, but also saying it's #1 because West Edmonton Mall is an "entertainment complex". The one thing the Square One website and its property owner Oxford Properties agrees on is that it's the largest mall in Ontario (Oxford does not mention anything about Canada). So far more sources refer to Metrotown as #2 than Square One. West Edmonton Mall is "world's largest entertainment and shopping centre" so that might be contradictory to Square One's claim of being #1. Carson 06:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: They haven't responded yet. I got a reply from the property manager saying that she forwarded my question to Square One's management office, and I haven't heard from them since. Carson 22:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

text: 3rd largest mall in all of North America. Luke! (talk) 03:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metrotown is 3rd largest mall in Canada 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 15:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose. We don't do official names, especially when, as here, they may be changed at the whim of the marketing department. See WP:COMMONNAME. What is the place actually called, in common English usage? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments: Steam5 19:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
I was unaware of the above discussion, and would have said "oppose", and the most important reason being the Metrotown is a neighbourhood and not just the shopping mall(s).  This article should be split between the puff-piece on the mall and an account of the area and its sociology and history etc.  Equating a shopping mall with a part of a city as if they were the same thing is just WRONG.  In the state this article is in, if it has the Burnaby neighbouhoods template that shoudl be taken off, as right now it's about the mall (and the lede should be changed to match teh re-affirmed title.Skookum1 (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose. We don't do official names, especially when, as here, they may be changed at the whim of the marketing department. See WP:COMMONNAME. What is the place actually called, in common English usage? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments: Steam5 19:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
I was unaware of the above discussion, and would have said "oppose", and the most important reason being the Metrotown is a neighbourhood and not just the shopping mall(s).  This article should be split between the puff-piece on the mall and an account of the area and its sociology and history etc.  Equating a shopping mall with a part of a city as if they were the same thing is just WRONG.  In the state this article is in, if it has the Burnaby neighbouhoods template that shoudl be taken off, as right now it's about the mall (and the lede should be changed to match teh re-affirmed title.Skookum1 (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Perusing various links this morning I found this article in the Vancouver Review by Terry Glavin, which has lots of stuff on the Metrotown area's history and former culture, before its Asiafication . Lots in this material should be in the Metrotown neighbourhood article, or perhaps the details of which part of which shopping centre is on top of the ruins/site of former businesses/homes/neighbourhoods could be integrated here....Skookum1 (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: History of the Metrotown area

message: This is a minor event, and a whole section devoted to it is undue emphasis.  The source provided isn't even about the event; it is mentioned near the end of the piece as context. Here is how the Sun describes it: In that case, 16-year-old Jakub Markiewicz said his rights were violated when he was set upon by security guards and then arrested by police after photographing an incident at Metrotown. Doug MacDougall, director of Metrotown Properties, said Markiewicz started filming and didn’t stop when he was asked to by the security guards. The RCMP handcuffed Markiewicz and took him out of the mall. On Friday, Ministry of Justice spokeswoman Amy Lapsley said in an email that the security programs division contacted the Markiewicz’s family directly but, to date, a formal complaint had not been lodged. An investigation was launched anyway and concluded that there were no contraventions of the Security Services Act by the guards.
So, no formal complaint, no one charged, much ado about nothing. I propose removing this section. The Interior (Talk) 16:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest removing sections devoted to similar incidents at West Edmonton Mall, Pacific Centre and Harbour Centre that were pushed by the same IP in question. These were relatively minor incidents blown out of proportion and given undue weight in their respective articles.  █ EMARSEE 18:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. They were 'splash in the pan' news stories only covered locally. They wouldn't even belong in articles on the security companies as those article would be full of every little incident. Security companies are like towing companies, they do a controversial job and news media likes to tabloid every little incident. We are not news, nor a tabloid.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll have to look at those in more detail, but they look like similar stuff.  The fellow in the wheelchair did get a lot of press, for about three or four days.  The food court business seems especially trivial. The Interior (Talk) 00:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The food court stuff isn't sourced either. I just remembered a similar entry in Electra Building (Vancouver) about a spill in 2010. It is still in the article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section