Talk:Styx

message: An interesting article purports to have more information:
:Another account by the Greek geographer Pausanias (110 - 180) reported that the river could ruin crystal, pottery and bronze. "(The) only thing able to resist corrosion is the hoof of a mule or horse," he wrote.
:Now called Mavroneri, "Black Water," the Styx originates in the high mountains of Achaia, Greece. Its cold waters cascade over a limestone crag to form the second highest waterfall in Greece.
These claims need to be checked out and addressed in the article. JKeck (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Information 

message: I seem to remember that the tradition of placing coins on the eyes of the dead (not only in the mouth) was also to pay Charon for the ferry trip, or am I misremembering? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 21:52, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coins 

message: This page covers two separate concepts in Wikdata  and . To create correct mappings to Wikidata the content should be split accordingly.20:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. I think that makes sense, I would say for page names maybe Styx or River Styx as the main topic and Styx (nymph) for the dab. -Relinus (talk) 03:13, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Lean oppose.  I don't see any advantage to splitting the article solely in order to have Wikidata "create correct mappings", whatever that means.  Both proposed topics—the river and the goddess of the river—are inextricably intertwined, and the latter article would be very short: it only accounts for a single paragraph in the current article.  The same could be said of other articles about rivers and river gods occurring in Greek mythology—separating such closely related topics does not make a lot of sense to me.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose The river and the deity are not really "separate" from each other. Paul August ☎ 19:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose – I agree with P Aculeius and Paul August. We already have too many pages on minor Greek mythological figures which should really be merged into  other articles; we shouldn't be making more. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 18:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would hardly call Styx a minor Greek mythological figure. Paul August ☎ 13:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose, seems like the nymph and the river are interconnected, so maybe that wouldn't be necessary. I think one page can sufficiently cover both. Piccco (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split content to separate pages for the river and the deity 

message: * The current article be moved to River Styx and rewritten to emphasize the mythological river and de-emphasize the goddess, as the river is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC
* Styx (band) be moved to Styx, as it is far better known than an obscure goddess, with a hatnote to the goddess's section in River Styx
* (optional) Styx River (disambiguation) be moved to Styx River Clarityfiend (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose the first proposal. The first proposal makes no sense, since it seems to assume that the mythological river and mythological goddess are two different things. However, "River Styx" and "Styx" are two names for exactly the same thing, i.e the Greek underworld river goddess. The article could be named either of these, but "Styx" is by far the more common name. And since the river and the goddess are the same thing, it's logically impossible for the article to emphasize (or de-emphasize) one over the other. Paul August ☎ 21:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose the second proposal, the river goddess is clearly more famous than the band. Paul August ☎ 21:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose all proposals. (Called via WT:CGR.) The primary topic is the Styx, which is given an entry under  in authoritative reference sources such as OCD4. I prefer  over ; River Styx outnumbers Styx River some 11.7 thousand to 1.42 thousand on Google Scholar, with the latter's first results largely relating to hydrology along the Styx River (Canterbury) in New Zealand. That there are many rivers Styx indicates need for a disambiguation page; that the primary topic is the mythological one means the page without  needs to redirect here.  refers also to the goddess, a river in Greece, and the underworld river (which is not the only boundary reported in the sources); that they are all treated here is best. Ifly6 (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

text: *Comment. I disagree that the band is lesser known than the river/goddess. Most people don't care much about Greek mythology these days, while there are a bunch of fans of the band. I know there's some tool to figure out pageviews. How many are there for the band compared to this article (which would include those looking for the band)? I don't think there is a primary topic for Styx, so perhaps Styx (disambiguation) should be moved to Styx and the current article to Styx (mythology)? Clarityfiend (talk) 02:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

text: *:Dictionaries place the river (which is the same as the goddess) as the definition of Styx. It's the primary topic. Ifly6 (talk) 02:46, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal