Talk:John Milius

message: if there's no further objection to the edit....i'm removing the check pov template.  i think a better image could be found but it's something he licenced so i guess unless someone else wants to did up a better one, then that the one that's going to stick.  -Seasee 01:48, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  removal of check pov 

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Seasee 07:35, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  response to ''"If some Wikipedians can't handle that; tough"'' 

message: i don't understand the statement that indicates milius had something to do with the writing or directing of Hunt for Red October.  imdb doesn't list him has having anything to do with it, leading me to question the sourcing of this.
the article might be served by a reorganization of his film credits... group movies that he had a major involvement with (Red Dawn, Conan the Barbarian) together, and movies that he merely contributed to (Dirty Harry, Jaws, HfRO if he did in fact have a role), especially in an uncredited capacity, together too, noting his lesser involvement.  this would do a lot for the clarity and quality of information in the article
Milius rewrote a lot of Sean Connery's dialogue at his request, and probably other elements of the story as well to make it more connerycentric. IMDB is lame anyway. Jedpressgrove 21:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunt for Red October? 

message: The paragraph starting with "Zen Anarchist" seems to be out of place. I'm thinking it could be moved to the end, but if it is, it seems to me it would need to be re-written to some extent. I have no interest in doing so, so anyone who wants to can move that. It just seems odd to me that it suddenly turns from an article about his movies to a one-line paragraph about guns then slips back into the movie talk again. I think seperating the two topics (movies and gun involvement) would make for a better article. Gohst 03:32, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies and Guns in the article 

message: They're the same age, were fellow USC students together and Lucas arguably achieved a successful filmmaker career before Milius did.  Removing "mentor" term. --Oakshade 18:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mentor" to George Lucas?

message: Is very misleading, his version was very different in tone to Coppola's version. I wasn't surprised to find a hoard of POV concerns in the discussion page.
I agree. This whole article has a tone that tries to make Milius's accomplishments greater than they are.  If they really are that impressive please cite sources and reword sentences that have the form of misleading, e.g. "Milius wrote, co-wrote and/or directed popular and critically acclaimed films such as..." It would be similar to me saying, "I have run a marathon, half marathon, or slept on the couch every Saturday for the past three years."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.207.23 (talk) 05:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Apocalypse Now credit... 

message: Is he or isn't he Jewish? Milius is a Lithuanian surname; shouldn't he be in the Lithuanian American list as well?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.97.27.254 (talk) 09:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity 

message: Currently includes the following:
"The character Walter Sobchak (played by John Goodman) in The Big Lebowski is loosely based on certain interests and mannerisms of Milius; however, the character's dialogue is right from the Milius playbook."
This is substandard on various counts. 
If the information claimed is taken at face value, why "however"? The word suggests some sort of contradiction or reversed expectation between the two clauses of the sentences, when in fact the second clause merely reinforces the first.
More importantly, however, the information cannot be taken at face value. Some citation, first- or at least second-hand, from the Coen brothers is needed, or else who knows if the character is based on Milius or not? Certainly, dialogue "right from the Milius playbook" is pure opinion, and suggests the possibility that this is the only reason to connect Sobchak with Milius.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sobchak is a Milius joke reference, but we can't just assert such a thing, or base such a claim on a fancied similarity of dialogue. We need confirmation from the Coens or perhaps word-for-word dialogue matches from Milius films. Otherwise, the passage should be removed.
209.181.57.144 (talk) 06:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fictional Representations

message: This was removed from the article for not being well sourced:
:He was the inspiration for the characters Walter Sobchak in The Big Lebowski and John Milner in American Graffiti. ref http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587518/bio /ref ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:27, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Big Lebowski

message: I removed the following brief sentence:
He was raised Jewish.
In the linked interview, he stated that he was Jewish, but not that he was raised Jewish. I believe he converted to Judaism later, much like the "Walter" character in The Big Lebowski which is based on him. When the Jewhoo website was up, it stated this. But it hasn't been operating for a few years and I can't easily find an alternate source.
--Aardvark114 (talk) 04:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Milius didn't convert to anything. He's Jewish by birth. Both of his parents were Jewish. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:16, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milius a convert to Judaism 

message: The Career section lists 1941 as one of the films Milius wrote or co-wrote.  However, the film's page only mentions Milius directed the movie's teaser trailer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fustigate314159 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writer/co-writer for "1941"? 

message: I don't know enough about the technical end of business to fix it, but this page is the worst I've ever seen. It isn't even displaying correctly. Can someone deal with the weird quotation formatting? - YTH  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.67.13.223 (talk) 13:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There much worse articles on WP. But the article does have a number of problems: Much too hagiographical tone, lots of unsourced material, to much info about 'talks' for movies that never got made, single sentence paragraphs. I'm starting to fix them all. Ashmoo (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worst Page on Wikipedia? 

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message: Why doesn't the article mention that he has pancreatic cancer? (217.42.104.20 (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Somebody needs to find a picture of him for this article.  The Final Edict (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: No photograph?