Talk:Checkpoint Charlie

message: It appears the monument has been dismantled very recently. If no one takes up the editing of the article, perhaps I will.
See the following link 
--Joanneva 8 July 2005 11:20 (UTC)
:See also :de:Freiheitsmahnmal—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.67.43.240 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 2 October 2005  (UTC)
::Checkpoint Charlie is not DESTROYED!!! It is STILL there.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.37.191.167 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 16 April 2006  (UTC)
Joanneva is referring to the crosses incident, in which a memorial consisting of crosses for each person killed on the wall was removed by the city under dubious circumstances. I will add this later if no-one else does.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 11:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Checkpoint Charlie Monument Destroyed? 

message: The statement in the Diplomatic Row section that "both superpowers' leaders understood that Berlin was not worth general war" is not supported and there is much evidence to the contrary. During this time, the Eastern Bloc was furious with the status quo arrangement concerning Berlin as they were losing hundreds or thousands of citizens daily between East and West Berlin. Khruschev had risked open war just three years prior to this event to try to swallow up West Berlin into the GDR by signing a treaty of formal recognition with the latter. The position of Ike and deGualle was to counter any use of force in Berlin (which would have been unavoidable in any attempt to absorb West Berlin given the sizable Nato presence there). Berlin was a showcase for both sides in the Cold War as to their respective superiority and it is possibly the only theatre in the entire world that both East and West were prepared to risk direct confrontation to defend. This statement should be modified or deleted in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Degivct (talk • contribs) 19:38, 28 March 2006  (UTC)
:I disagree but of course this is not NPOV so should not have been in the article.  Thanks for removing it. (Mountain Goat (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Risk of Escalation 

message: Removed the comment
 Today, Checkpoint Charlie can also be found guarding the entrance to Newman Smith High 
 School in Carrollton, Texas. In order to receive the official "thumbs up" signal from 
 him, you must present a green ID. Otherwise, you'll have better luck trying to jump the 
 fence.
as the article on that school makes no reference to Checkpoint Charlie in any way.
Septegram 22:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hahahaha.  He's the school's parking lot security guard.  It's just his nickname.  You're right, though: no reason to keep it.  Oscabat 07:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newman Smith High School 

message: The article has just been progrssively diembowelled. I have put back the mosst recenttly deleted 'present day' section but wwould someone also replace the other parts? Thanks TobyJ (talk) 09:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added back the other sections--Work permit (talk) 04:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant. TobyJ (talk) 10:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of 1,000 cuts 

message: Reverted.  Very interesting sections, but not specific to checkpoint charile--Work permit (talk) 06:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The one revert I noticed was huge -- changed nearly every section in the article to an old version, including this section.  Re the background info on the Berlin Wall and Emigration restrictions, that was was very short summarized bit of information (with see tags) to provide some context for Checkpoint Charlie and its importance.  Readers would otherwise not know even a basic few sentences about the Wall's erection and reasons therefore, and a few sentences on these items comprise rather standard background for an article regarding the most famous checkpoint in that wall.Mosedschurte (talk) 20:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I restructured the article, I think it flows better now--Work permit (talk) 02:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to "Background" -- the 1950s emigration restrictions weren't really Cold War, but an internal Eastern Bloc issue causing emigration -- and chron'd the initial Berlin Wall material.  The incidents that happened later are in a "Related incidents" section.Mosedschurte (talk) 03:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emigration restrictions, the Inner German Border and Berlin loophole 

message: Noticed a few weeks ago that a full blanket revert to a very old article version was made that deleted numerous additions by several editors in most sections of the article, as well as format fixes etc., conforming Lede to WP:Lede summary (actually had individual street names in it), etc.Mosedschurte (talk) 19:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert to very old article version 

message: As one of the final 4 MPs in Charge of the Checkpoint, I find it interesting that my additions keep getting deleted.  Calling us irrelevant trivia is wrong.  Mikelsey5 (talk) 04:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbitrary deletions 

message: The section Checkpoint is currently unsourced and asserts, "Checkpoint Charlie is frequently featured in spy movies and books." Searching for that sentence elsewhere on the Internet turned up a HuffPost Life article which word-for-word matches that paragraph. However, that paragraph in Wikipedia predates the article. The article bears a date in 2011; the sentence about "espionage movies and books" was introduced 22 Feb 2006 by 161.253.39.188, and amended to "'spy' movies and books" later that year.
A little more searching turns up various lists of movies (of dubious reliability) that feature Checkpoint Charlie. However, the "What Links Here" list for this page contains at least a few pages for movies and books... perhaps the assertion about movies and books is sufficiently obvious that it doesn't need a citation? DavidLeeLambert (talk) 13:23, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "spy movies and books"