Talk:Greco-Buddhist art

message: Removed the part that said Greco-Buddhist art influenced China, Korea, and Japan. East Asian art is NOT
influenced by Greco-Buddhist art in any way, and only lightly influenced Theravada Buddhist art. Much more influence comes from Daoism (Zen Buddhism forming from a combination of Daoism and Mahayana)
Intranetusa 21:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Section regarding influence

message: So Buddha's curly hair is reminiscent of Mediterranean hairstyle. I read somewhere that this is due to the Dravidian origin of prince Gautama. So what do you think? Meursault2004 13:07, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Buddha's hair is a typical babylonial style of depicting the human hair , the protruding knobs on the surface can be seen in babylonian and later persian statues, it further nullifies the argument that these are greek statues. Rameezraja001 (talk) 17:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

text: Hi Mersault. How about Physical characteristics of the Buddha or Gautama Buddha? 61.213.82.143 13:17, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Many thanks for your reply. According to the article Gautama Buddha, he was probably an Aryan (i.e. Indo-European) as he was a kshatriya. Off course, so he was not of Dravidian origin (at least not purely). Meursault2004 15:58, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hair

message: What a fantastic article.  Are the authors aiming to nominate it as a Featured article? -- ALoan (Talk) 11:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:FAC|Featured article candidates]]

message: I'd love to include this article - it's exactly the kind of article we need (serious academic topic, much non-Western content, lots of content) but I'm rather concerned that it needs better referencing.  There are a few inline refs, but I think such a long article needs more - the sources may be in the general refs, and just need pulling out by someone with those sources available.  There is even one section tagged with a cleanup tag (needing refs.), and overall these things make it C-Class, not B.  A little bit of work should make it a B, though, then it would be ready to be included in our offline releases, I think. Walkerma (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Version 0.7

message: The article seems to suggest that deities in India were never depicted in human form before the influence of Greco-Buddhist art. I have two questions regarding that claim:
1. Is that what the article is actually saying? If not, I think some clarification may be needed.
2. If so, is the statement correct? In other words, were there really no Indian depictions of deities in human form previous to the arrival of Greeks and their art in Bactria and northwest India/Pakistan? I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong, it just sounds odd to me.
Maitreya (talk) 12:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Impact on Indian Art

message: ΕΛΛΗΝ0ΒΟΥΔΙΣΜΟΣ  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.138.191.131 (talk) 18:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ΒΟΥΔΙΣΜΟΣ 

message: >Banerjee in "Hellenism in India"
A source must be given.--Gleb95 (talk) 18:33, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banerjee 

message: what is buddhist art? where did it originate? and why is it being called that buddhistic characteristics are from central asia? buddhist art is indian, not greek or central asian, and buddhist art originated from india not indo greece or central asia.
these statues are buddhist indian statues with greek elements of influence, how does that make it a greek art? its assimilation of greek features in an typically indian statuary.
what i understand and get the general idea is:
Greeks settlers came to periphery of indian sub continent and made cities like ai khanoum
Greek settlers produced pre buddhist arts like posidon (which are very few in quantity)
Greek settlers became buddhist by the religious proliferation of king ashoka
ashoka lays foundation of indian buddhist statuary
greeks become patrons and fund the monuments of sanchi and bharut stupas
greeks adopt buddhist arts to proliferate buddhist statuary in ai khanum
Greek settlers started making indian buddhist statues while incorporating greek elements
buddhistic statues start proliferating due to buddhist religion and world wide spread of buddhist art
as the time goes on greek elements in gandhara statues fade away and incorporate more and more indian stylistic elements?
The article seem to also generalise buddhist art as derivative of greek arts.
the prominent example of indian stylistic influence is the bindi buddha is wearing which is an indian culture, the bodhisatva is not displaying six packs of posidon rather natural body shape and draping indian style clothes and indian styled jewelry ornaments. The genstues and the postures are typically indian and have never been greek styles.
the greek art is not realistic, it is derived from idealistic form of babylonian arts where it depicts idealistic human features, which doesnt seem to be the case in buddhist statues as compared to greek posidon statues.
the article seems to be suggesting otherwise which is a typical reflection of british stereotypical eurocentric dishonesty nothing else.Rameezraja001 (talk) 17:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very dishonest article 

message: why spare mars mate? greco- art reached even titan, you just need to send a probe to titan and you will discover greco art in titan, aliens are appreciating greco arts, maybe someday voyager will come across greco arts too. Rameezraja001 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  india, central asia, china, japan, south east asia maybe even mars, titan, universe 

message: can you please explain where User:Rameezraja001 voted twice as mention by your reversal here. You are clearing trying to rig the process which is not acceptable.  can you please help monitor this RFC as an admin. User:Khirurg is rigging the process as seen here. I don't see any evidence of User:Rameezraja001 voting twice. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 20:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: He started the move process, and that counts as his vote in support. This is always the way in RM discussions. I'm happy to believe the 2nd vote was an oversight though.  Johnbod (talk) 00:25, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Khirurg]] rigging the RFC 

message: This article is quite disingenuous. Greek influence doesn't mean the art was created by Greek people. Art belong to the Gandhara people who created them. Current article erase the Gandhara people who created the art in place of Greek people Azegi (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gandhara Art, not Greco-Buddhist art 

message: This article should be merged with Greco-Buddhism, I don’t have any time or energy to make a big RFC, notify many editors or explain my opinion,  but it’s a very obvious and logical point which I am throwing into the room.
Xerxes1985 (talk) 11:20, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Greco-Buddhism]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. If new arguments are to be had, no prejudice against another proposal.  Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:06, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Greco-Buddhist art →  – Per WP:COMMONNAME, we should use more frequent of the alternative names. As Google Ngram shows, "Gandhara art" is more popular than "Greco-Buddhist art". So shouldn't the page be moved to it? Sutyarashi (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 20 March 2023