Talk:Audi S4

message: I removed the material about aftermarket performance modification since this is about a product from Audi, rather than about what you could do with your Audi. Toddstreat1 00:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aftermarket

message: I see no need at all to include this speculation on the future generations.  There is no firm information on this car as far as I can tell, and this does not belong in a Wikipedia article.  I would like to get a concensus here on whether or not it belongs.
Attention 141.161.69.157, assuming you weigh in on this, please sign your posts with --~~~~.  Thanks  --SFoskett 15:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What acceptance? I'd assumed somebody else would have deleted that by now. There is no information from any source on any supposed 2011 Audi S4. You don't have anything, only a possible date that is speculation on your part and not on that of Motor Trend. Speculation on Windows Vista is irrelevant. The automotive industry is too volatile to include such speculation as sure information. Nothing is official at this time about the next-gen Audi A4, much less whether there'll be an S4 or not. --Pc13 23:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fifth generation

message: There is an excellent (and very close to life) concept image via Auto Bild by Huckfeldt. It has copyright tags and is also tagged across the image. It's available at http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=15631&page=2 about midway down the page. Could someone inspect it and let me know if they think it would be fair-use to place it?
Also, here is the original article http://www.autobild.de/erlkoenige/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=11118&artikel_seite=3 It is in German which, unfortunately, I cannot read. Perhaps this contains more information? Any German reading S4 fans out there?
:: Still waiting for some feedback on this ... (4/22/06)
: That image is not only copyrighted, but the owners of these spy shots demand payment upon publication. It is not appropriate to feature them here. --Pc13 14:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fifth generation concept image

message: For the most part, I have been exceedingly polite. For several months, you have consistently undermined efforts to build up the 5th generation section. I recognize that parts of my earliest work were indeed "speculation" (despite the fact that I know them to be more than speculation, but that's not the point). However, the current information as I have recently revised it is credible and well sourced.
I have revised the 5th Generation Section to incorporate both my information from MotorTrend and your information from AutoBild. This is the SPIRIT of wikipedia -- adding, modifying, synthesizing, etc. Your finding info from AutoBild does not suddenly make it alright to delete the rest of the section. (I also noticed your earlier efforts at simply writing 'No Information on the S4 exists').
If you continue to delete the work that has been going into it, I will register with wikipedia, and request moderation on the page and on your edits. I would like to continue to handle this in a peacable manner. However, it's getting increasingly troublesome to deal with this.
Thanks
: Mr. Anonymous Whoeveryouare. Your personal speculations have no place on Wikipedia. Based on a one-line sentence that says "2010 Audi S4: Redesign", you claim the Audi S4 will arrive in 2011. However, there is no sourced information, official or otherwise, about any proposed date for the release of any supposed next generation Audi S4. I have already pointed out to you that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Then you claimed you had insider information. And I pointed out to you that Wikipedia is not a place to gather first hand news reports. More specifically, Wikipedia is not Jalopnik, The Car Connection, Edmunds or Germancarfans.com. If you have insider info, give it to them. We'll report it later as speculation... maybe. Maybe not. Until Audi announces something on any future S4, it's not safe to refer to it. Audi has yet to mention anything about the future A4, let alone its performance version. Considering this article still needs so much on the current and previous generations of the Audi S4, it's ridiculous to spend so much time and effort talking about a car that does not yet exist. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and encyclopedias refer to things that are and that were, not about things that may be. And while you're at it, cite your sources. --Pc13 22:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Audi S4 article & User Pc13

message: I thought it might be appropriate to start this new section. After attempting (unsucccessfully, over the course of several months) to deal with this more amicably with Pc13, I've initiated two steps.
Formally, I made a "request for comment" over at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/All under the technology/engineering section.
More informally, I made a comment and asked for advice on the discussion section of the page Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not.
I'm hoping that one or both of these efforts will resolve these disputes. If they do not, I think I might seek to pursue mediation, or, failing this, arbitration.
Pc13, in one of your comments, you spoke about how unfortunate it was to be focusing on this 5th generation when so much more work needs to be done on the previous generations. I acknowledge that there is much more work to be done on earlier sections. However, I also think it is unfortunate that you have turned what could have been a useful & productive opportunity to contribtue to an additional section of this article into a 'conflicted topic'. To be plain about it: I think your actions run the risk of hurting rather than helping the article.
Okay, that's all for now. I'm a bit embarassed that it has come to this. I hope this will resolve itself soon. I'm committed to preserving the page so that a fair judgment can be made at this point.
NB: The discussion has spilled over onto Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles
:I don't want to get too deep into this debate, but I'm removing the reference to Motor Trend.  The article in question is a pure speculation piece, and all it contains is the line " 2010 Audi A4: Redesign."  You've distorted this from a bit of speculation to Audi's definite plan, and then gone on to speculate about the availability of an S4 a year afterward.  You can't do this; it's not how Wikipedia works.
:I don't know anything about Auto Bild, so I can't evaluate its information.  I do, however, consider it odd that the speculative fifth generation has no more power than the previous. TomTheHand 01:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Dispute over Fifth Generation Section

message: I'm assuming that the 1.3s 0-100km/h (roughly equivalent to 0-60mph) is some sort of typo?   Either that or the B6 S4 is faster than any other production car in the world, which I find hard to believe in a world of Bugatti Veyrons, Koenigsegg CCR/CCX's, McLaren F1's Lamborghini's and Ferraris...
I was going to just update that part, but I figured I should post here first.   Thoughts?
Mattlach 18:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hired one from Hertz at Phoenix airport for my holibobs in 2005.  It was quick, but not 0-100 km/h in 1.3 seconds quick.  This was a cabrio with an auto 'box, so about 6 seconds would probably be in the ballpark. Mr Larrington (talk) 14:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: B6 S4 Acceleration?

message: if you refer to the new section regarding the new B8 chassis S4, there is a bit stating "Although sources disagree, power will likely be found in a twin-turbo or supercharged V6 engine"
this seems to be someone's opinion.  nobody cares about what is "likely" unless you can prove your sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Impreziv (talk • contribs) 06:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: new B8

message: Picture needs to be added, they are available now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.153.198.44 (talk) 15:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New B8 pt 2

message: Is someone really calling these cars as Typ 8E (saloon & Avant),
Typ 8H (Cabrio)...  this aka field should be used for alternative names not type codes  --Typ932 T·C 14:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: also called

message: In this section it says that the B8 S4 was available from Nov 2008, but I don't believe the B8 S4 was available in the USA until model year 2010. I cannot find any sources to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, but all of the 2009 S4 models on the market in the US still have the 4.2l V8. See here and here.
Can someone confirm that the B8 wasn't available in the US until 2010? And if so, it should be included in the section. It is confusing enough as it is.--131.53.128.23 (talk) 16:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: B8 Years

message: The three option wheels are incorrect for the S4. All three were available on the later S6. The two wheels available on the S4 were the 16x8" 5 spoke Forged Fuchs and the 15x7" 6 spoke "Speedlines"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.31.209.42 (talk) 17:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheel Design/ Tyre Options on First Generation C4 S4 

message: From the specs that I have read, capacity is 2995 not 2998.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.194.94.111 (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  B8 engine capacity 

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