Talk:Linguolabial consonant

message: Was hoping to get some clarification on the varieties here.  I can do three types of linguolabial trill - Bronx cheer and two that sound like bilabial trills but use the tongue instead of one of the lips (this Youtube video has the linguolabial trill with the upper lip as its second/middle example as part of an attempt to each how to do an alveolar trill).  What would the proper nomenclature be for each of these three varieties of trill? -- 213.176.153.100 (talk) 12:49, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varieties of linguolabial trill 

message: Is there any evidence for (or against) the possibility that the combinations πτ, βδ, φθ and μν might have originally represented linguolabial consonants and that they might have later been replaced by spelling pronunciations?  Kostaki mou (talk) 04:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It rather is unlikely, and an extraordinary hypothesis needs extraordinary evidence. And there seems to be no shred of evidence to even suggest the possibility. --JorisvS (talk) 10:32, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

text: Mere speculation is not a crime.  I am not proclaiming it as fact.  I was only asking if there was any such extraordinary evidence.  You do not provide any evidence to the contrary (such as providing earlier forms, for example).  You are simply shouting me down.  Kostaki mou (talk) 19:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any evidence that the Greeks lived on the Moon before they moved to Greece?  (Please do not tell me there is no evidence, and do not shout me down.)  — kwami (talk) 21:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You're being ridiculous.  My speculation is far from outlandish and is not unique to me.  Kostaki mou (talk) 23:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Are any academics of the opinion? Have they been published? This isn't a forum for speculation. — Lfdder (talk) 23:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankly, I don't know.  Who are you kidding?  The talk pages are rife with exactly this kind of speculation.  Frankly, I find the response to my question quite childish and downright hysterical.  I think it's a darn good question (and that's all I am presenting it as).  Kostaki mou (talk) 00:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The question was fine.  But when you were told there was no evidence for it, you are the one who got hysterical, complaining that "speculation is not a crime" and "you are simply shouting me down".  — kwami (talk) 00:34, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

text: it seems to me that nobody here wishes to speculate. Maybe try asking on reddit or Unilang – though I don't see what the point would be. — Lfdder (talk) 00:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  There seemed to me to be the distinct implication that it was ridiculous for me even to ask the question.  Perhaps I misunderstood the statement that "there seems to be no shred of evidence to even suggest the possibility" to mean that it was ridiculous of me even to suggest the possibility (which I don't think it was).  Kostaki mou (talk) 01:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I read it as meaning there's not a shred of evidence, but then I tend to take people literally.  — kwami (talk) 04:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible presence in ancient Greek? 

message: Which are they? I seems to me we must swap positions with Labiodentals. יהודה שמחה ולדמן (talk) 12:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: They're coronal. What do you mean by 'swap positions' with labiodentals? Labiodentals are clearly labial. 2606:6000:69C6:9600:8DB:81F4:7EF3:CE59 (talk) 00:40, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Coronal consonant|Coronal]] or [[Labial consonant|Labial]]? 

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