Talk:Real-life superhero

message: Anyone, add this.
http://newsru.com/russia/28mar2011/super.html
There is also links to his LiveJournal blog and "Russian Facebook-Vkontakte" page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.95.15.168 (talk) 16:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Real Life superhero in Russia

message: There have been a number of attempts to add personal web pages to this page, as predicted when we created the article. Please do not include your own website or those of your friends. The people who put this page together request that you use this page solely for real-life superheroes documented in the media. Thank you.--Mike Selinker 13:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've protected this page, because a few people keep relentlessly adding their myspace pages. For the time being, if you wish to make legitimate changes, post a note on my page and I'll open it up for you.--Mike Selinker 06:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal pages

message: Mr. Xtreme and Shadow Hare were featured in a tv report http://www.fox6.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=430733 and http://www.10news.com/news/15590312/detail.html# 
Zetaman was featured in a local newspaper http://wweek.com/editorial/3417/10489  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.140.122.3 (talk) 02:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: West coast superheroes

message: Hardwire, a superhero out of greensboro, North Carolina, was discussed in an article about Real Life Superheroes in the January 2008 issue of Finland-based Image Magazine.  No internet article to go with it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herofan (talk • contribs) 14:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Real life hero Hardwire in Finland magazine

message: This page that should be merged is mentioned in the article, but would merely be elaborated upon.Craptacularama 07:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Let's merge Terrifica into this article. I don't think there's much there that would pass a notability test.--Mike Selinker 16:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged.  --  Zanimum 15:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Terrifica]]

message: There was a man who jumped on to the train track in New York City to protect a person having an epileptic fit from being run over by a train. Should we add him? The only problem is that I can't remember his name. Anyone remember? Ilikefood 23:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was he costumed? Otherwise he's just a hero.  --  Zanimum 15:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: he was just a good sammaritan trying to help a guy out. he wasnt costumed or anything, ill find the news article for you if you wish. Zriddle (talk) 20:29, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Man in New York

message: Does anyone have any idea what happened to Angle-Grinder Man? There have been no news reports of him since mid-2004, and his website has been shut down in 2005, so I'm assuming that he is no longer active. I did a lot of searching, but I could not find any reliable sources with information on what may have happened to him. It would be reasonable to assume that he either stopped his "business" on his own accord or got arrested. However, I don't think that he got arrested, otherwise his arrest would have made the news (unless the police withheld information from the media). --Ixfd64 11:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Angle-Grinder Man

message: Honest superheroes are being left out. I fixed some of it, but please check past versions to make sure anyone of notability was left out. --Craptacularama 3:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please keep an eye on this page

message: Real Life Superheroes on national news: Chris Guardian(Dark Guardian), Citizen, Prime, and Civitron were on Fox News's national morning show.  Here is part of the story on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idBuPHVTWkI  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.150.49 (talk) 01:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Citizen Prime and Chris Dark Guardian were interviewed by geraldo rivera http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?081307/081307_gal_superhero&Real%2DLife%20Superhero%3F&Geraldo_at_Large&Costumed%20crime%20fighter%20patrols%20the%20streets%20of%20Phoenix%2C%20Arizona&US&-1&&&&&new  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.150.49 (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: On the national news

message: I notice a lot of reverting on this page, but remarkably little discussion. This is naughty of you all. Be good, or be blocked William M. Connolley (talk) 19:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Captain Spiffy failed to heed my wise advice, which was regrettable William M. Connolley (talk) 23:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am deleting the other links re-added by User:63.3.22.130 who may or may not be a sock of User:63.3.22.3, a user with at least four warnings for spam at this point.  The links are equally inappropriate as a social networking/forum site, linkspam for a non notable film, and a non-authoritative how-to site.  I already added a warning earlier but failed to remove the links.    TastyPoutine talk (if you dare) 02:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've semi'd the page for a week. After that, we'll see William M. Connolley (talk) 19:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverting but no talking

message: Perhaps the news articles need to be re-divided by individuals. Also, User: 87.9.198.133 continues to over exaggerate about the news featuring Entomo. Zetaman  —Preceding undated comment added 11:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Change in format?

message: It seems there's been a response to the superhero movement. There are at least two groups of villains I can find, 
http://consortiumofevil.com/
http://joinroach.com/LairPage.html
I have no idea how serious these folks are, but I'm not here to pass judgement. 70.179.98.58 (talk) 02:47, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like they're a satirical response to the RLSH movement.  The ROACH site has a disclaimer that reads "I think it also goes without saying that this site is a joke and that if you are the type of person who would really devote their lives to causing mayhem and chaos, and to harming the real heroes of the world then we'd probably want nothing to do with you."   Gnomeface (talk) 05:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real Life Super Villains 

message: I couldn't find any valid news sources for "Stab Man" of purported Orange County fame, so the entry was deleted. The referenced news source only mentioned that police suspected another party was involved, the other party being the supposed Stab Man. If anyone has justifiable sources, feel free to add it again, but for now, it seems highly doubtful. Annish33 (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stab Man? 

message: Superbarrio is a political activist, not a real life superhero.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.173.142.227 (talk) 13:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Superbarrio? 

message: "Witness reports that a vigilante figure in a black armored costume is patrolling in the late night areas where disturbs are frecuent in the city of Puebla de los Angeles and frustrated numerous crimes in progress as well as defending the victims bare handed, there is still no video footage of him or photos from the press or public since he flees the scene before the cops arrive, and never been in public to claim himself as a real life hero or is known by the local media if he contacted the local authorities to identify himself, so this information sould remain only as rumor/speculation until video or photos of this vigilate are submited by the local media or he identifies himself in public"
This bit was removed recently, but I'd like to know where this info comes from,and if there were indeed reports of this vigilante. This person sounds much more like a "real" superhero in that he or she seems more interested in actually fighting crime than being seen as one in the media. While there are plenty of people out there dressing up and making webpages,how many, if any, are disguising themselves to really fight crime? 71.12.255.235 (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mysterious hero in Mexico 

message: The majority of police are actually quite appreciative of RLSH and their efforts. I haven't met one officer yet that doesn't, and I have asked many, in person, and online about them. There are only a few cases where an officer has said anything bad about any RLSH.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShowStopperRLSH (talk • contribs) 21:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Police and RLSH 

message: I've read the info provided in :Template:Wikia and although this article lacks external links and the Real Life Superheroes Wiki does have more information than is provided on Wikipedia, I am worried that adding it as an external link would not be in compliance with the WP:External links guidelines. Namely, due to WP:ELNO#EL12, as it is an open wiki and WP:ELNO#EL4 because I am the admin for the Wiki so it might be a conflict of interest. Can someone provide advice as to what to do and suggestions on whether it is appropriate or not to link? Thanks!
--Kainee (talk) 17:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it's not an appropriate link. Thanks for doing your research and asking. Dougweller (talk) 18:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks for confirming for me. I do have a number of potential other links that I don't have any affiliation with that might work like http://www.reallifesuperheroes.com (it was down for about a month but it's back up and running now) or http://www.reallifesuperheroes.org (the only thing is, they don't really have a site that's open to the general public unless you consider the subdomain: http://archives.reallifesuperheroes.org). But again, not sure if these would be appropriate external links... --Kainee (talk) 18:28, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Why not ask at WP:ELN? Dougweller (talk) 19:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I just posted the question here. --Kainee (talk) 19:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RLSH Wikia 

message: I have the ability to DIRECTLY contact some of these guys/gals. shoot me a message if you have questions so i may forward them for you!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zriddle (talk • contribs) 11:24, December 8, 2012
--Zriddle (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Contact a R.L.S.H. ?

message: This comic was mentioned under the popular culture section but without a supporting reference since August, so I removed it. I used to read this but fell out of practice, so if anyone happens to find what issue of the comic uses RLSH references, please link to it here and we can include it under a 'comics' section with Kick-Ass. Ranze (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Something Positive]]

message: Does Batkid qualify for an inclusion?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.252.131.192 (talk) 23:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Batkid]] 

message: His real name is Stan Worby  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 16:02, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bradford batam 

message: What is the definition of that? Does it need to be made explicit in the narrative that the character is "inspired by comic books"? 
Otherwise, the combination of the attributes "fictional" and  "real-life" sort of seem to cancel each other out.
What about the distinction between vigilantes and rebel movements? Vigilantes may fight corruption within the government, and rebels may fight the government as a whole, which they will depict as corrupt. So do the ISIS fighters count as "real life superheroes" because they are masked and they fight the (doubtlessly corrupt) Assad government? They are also trying to "improve society" by imposing the "values" of Islam, so should they be counted as a "RLSH" type movement reflecting Muslim superheroes? 
Is the "Anonymous" movement donning Guy Fawkes mask an even more meta type of "real-life fictional real-life superheroism"? After all, the V for Vendetta character was a type of "fictional real-life superhero" who fought corruption in a fictional near-future scenario. Which raises the further question, was the historical Guy Fawkes, who inspired the fictional real-life superhero in V for Vendetta an a hero, a rebel, a superhero, or even an early "real-life superhero"? Will this depend on whether he was wearing a cape when he planted his gunpowder? 
I am partly serious btw. The ISIS fighters are to a large part young men who grew up in western cities (apparently many derived from "rapper" subculture in second-generation Muslims in European cities) and who are both heavily influenced by and make conscious use of western pop culture tropes in their propaganda aesthetics. I do believe their "masked black avengers" aesthetics is deliberately based on superhero fiction, partly to impress possible recruits and partly to tailor their message to the cultural background of the western public. --dab (𒁳) 09:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, what? Kortoso  (talk) 23:13, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: fictional real-life superheroes

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message: It's not surprising that he's been overlooked, but there was a major example of a guy dressing up in a costume and championing social causes. He even had a modified car! I'm speaking of Captain Sticky! (Richard Allen Pesta) Arguably the first person to seriously act on the notion of doing good deeds while dressed superhero-style. 
See: http://thereallifesuperherosubculture.weebly.com/historical-accounts.html
http://www.newsfromme.com/2005/01/29/captain-sticky-r-i-p/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B86A:5400:A4B4:5629:25E0:3A3F (talk) 03:39, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: The third citation is an invalid URL. I would just remove it but I figured that mayhaps we should find a valid replacement before we just strip the article of that source. ToxicReap (talk) 17:18, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: The "list of RLSHs" section is currently broken up into many lists separated by section headings. Shouldn't it rather be a single description list, like so?
etc.
—151.132.206.250 (talk) 23:46, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  —151.132.206.250 (talk) 18:54, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry I don't think pings work for IP's. I think you would end up with too many columns to make it feasible to write much detail- you would probably need separate columns for name, real name (if known), costume, country, city patrolled, what their specialities were etc. According to the Manual of Style, prose is to be preferred over tables. Tables make it harder for newer editors to add information and references as well. Curdle (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting of the RLSH list layout 

message: A number of entries in the  include no information other than the fact that they exist in a place, even entries with multiple citations. Would there be any objection to their removal? If they were truly "notable" enough to merit inclusion, we'd surely be able to offer more than their name and location (if even that much). —151.132.206.250 (talk) 00:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that before you do that, you must check the sources and if they mention what the RLSH does, add that to the entry. Sjö (talk) 07:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If you or anyone else wants to do that, of course, feel free. But if we have like three sources on just a name and costume, including it here seems rather WP:INDISCRIMINATE, as RLSHs are defined by their costumed actions. —151.132.206.250 (talk) 17:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, if and only if none of the sources include any actions. What I'm saying is that if the sources mention what they do your argument against notability fails. I strongly oppose removing any entries where there's a source that mentions their actions, just because their actions aren't mentioned in this article. Sjö (talk) 09:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't understand. Why would our list leave that out? It's a rather important detail, no? —151.132.206.250 (talk) 17:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly what in my post don't you understand? Sjö (talk) 04:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

text: I think Sjö is saying that if the sources mention costumed actions, and Wikipedia's entry does not, that the Wikipedia entry should be expanded to include those actions, rather than be deleted. For instance under Australia, there is only "The Black Rat is in Sydney" with 4 refs for one RLSH; all refs are good (just fixed them) and they do have quite a bit more detail, plus if you look at the dates of the stories, he was around for three years or so, and was featured in quite a few other news articles as well. Curdle (talk) 12:44, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. Thank you. 151.132.206.250, you seem to think that everything important in the sources is added to the text. I can tell you that it isn't so. People don't agree on what is important, and they have differing opinions on how much text to write in each paragraph. That is why the sources have to be checked before deleting any entries in the list. Sjö (talk) 19:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Having said that, I think there are some entries that could be removed; I went through a lot of the refs last night, and managed to fix quite a few; some of them do not support the entries properly (Inferno Flame in Kentucky, for instance, has just a link to his youtube channel- no evidence he is/was particularly notable, or indeed did anything else than post videos, and yes, I did try and find something). The Netherlands "Angels of Orange" is just a series of (private, non viewable) links to instagram. Some don't seem to be actual "Real life heroes" either."Super Vaclav is a promotional figure for a Czech webhosting company" and only what look like comedic clips posted to youtube, no newspapers writing about real life incidents. Curdle (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Along with Super Vaclav, there was also qujOchÖ's satirical Miss Magnetiq that I moved down to  earlier. So I'll definitely agree with that point.  What I had trouble understanding was why someone would add a source (or four), but neglect to add any information supported by that source; or why anyone would think the most bare-bones of entries would be appropriate in a list full of paragraphs of details. It just doesn't make sense to me to look at this list and then go, "Ooh, this guy lives over here, link link link DONE." —151.132.206.250 (talk) 17:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  RLSHs who apparently never did anything 

message: Rupture is an rlsh in crossett Arkansas, the leader of the Freedom Fighters TheRupture (talk) 22:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rupture rlsh