Talk:Papaveraceae

message: Again and again the type specific of the genus pages in this category claim the alkaloids and natural chemicals residing in these plants are poisonous, but never does it give a break down of the known active contents.
These family of articles on Wikipedia need an expert to de-lineate and/or enumerate the contents and percentages (relative to one another as subtypes of the plant genus at least) of any molecular alkaloids and other chemical, herbal, medicinal contents in the different parts of the individual plant in question at each instance an article exists for one specific of this variety....
My reasoning is that opium is listed as a poison ubiquitously upon its modern tinctures, so my contestation is as to whether the whole papaveraceae family is no more poisonous than the non-deorderized concoctions and preparations of common opium & poppy tea? (by virtue of the fact such a thing exists as "poppy tea", it should be apparent that the plants of this family are no more lethal to humans than something far more honestly worse when lived and heavily habituated and such warnings where Wikipedia does not censor should reflect that. It shouldn't warrant the advertisement of the poisonousness as a body toxin that this subject pages/articles do in the manner that they do if my apprehension is founded. Their basis may be stemming from the world wide examples which the alkaloids that act much like depressants have shown as a penchant for their method to overtaking lives (yet let it be understood this isn't meant to be read into as actually "killing" hypothetical individual exposed to the CNS depressant instances of papaveraceae alkaloids, though that it a possibility, 'overtaking' is still the much more frequent and socially baneful event with an unthinkably larger grandiose scale of likelihood upon human persons exposure) when only as when purified preparations of the convulsant/stimulant of the alkaloids, as are condensed and separated, when stand alone chemicals that truly display any human toxicity. The history of habituation to opioids and the knowledge that they in untrained hands can cause fatality, that gives the non-NPOV synthesis to these articles that allow them to have so fragrant a stern caution of poisonousness (narcotine, etc.), while being a true statement by conditions for what stands as reasonable human toxicity from a constituent of the content of the plant, and glossing away the worry of interest in the harvest and extrapolation of mu-agonists in the alkaloids of morphine and its family which are non-toxic, though can cause death, and are to be found therein abundantly and would be safe via educated and non-addictive persons, in line with laws upon such interaction with and intentions upon relations with the plant.
Furthermore the whole world wide pharmaceutical industry relies on the yields of extractions of many of these chemical molecule contents as precursors to opioid painkiller drugs which are among the most prescribed in the world and continually researched as an avenue of ancient and modern stretching garnered interest in the continual revamping and improving upon the mode of action which they yield. Telling percentages of what, like oripavine or thebaine, alkaloids are present in relation to other varieties and variants of the plant, that are inactive in themselves but are easier to work with in a laboratory setting for even more scientifically specific active resultant processed synthetic drugs. Which in itself helps the educated academic world of specialized knowledge have a repository outside of their sequestered away reference of such, and helps shed light to a general population where cross breeding can be done by the layman and what phenotypal exceptions out there potentially might yield something of vast import to usefulness in the medical world that in certain times and instances hailed this type of drug the universal panacea long sought by mankind. Nagelfar (talk) 03:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alkaloids of papaveraceae, their honest toxicity outside of narcotine convulsants, and the habituation risks of any that yield the morphine molecule or its relatives (methylmorphine, hydromorphone). 

message: The first sentence says that poppies are in the order of plants Ranuculales, then says "informally known as the poppy family". This is misleading, for Ranuculales is an order of plants, not a family, and the article should clarify that it is papervaceae that is informally known as the poppy family. Vorbee (talk) 15:18, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: First sentence is misleading

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