Talk:Gothic War (376–382)

message: Could/Should there be a link to the term foederati? <KF> 17:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link? 

message: This article claims that the Goths split into Visi- and Ostro- Goths in 380, after first claiming that it was Visigoths that moved into the Empire in 376. Both surely can't be true. Note that the latter version is supported by our other articles about Goths. Zocky | picture popups 18:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of Wikipedia (and most history books) are fairly confused on this issue. It's complex, there  were dozens of tribes involved, Goths all over the place, it's not the simple split this article (currently) makes it out to be. --Stbalbach 19:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visigoth/Ostrogoth split 

message: Both the start date and the end date are disputed. The events began with the Danube crossing in 376, whether the fighting started in fall 376 (Heather 1998, p. 133) or spring 377 (Wolfram, IIRC) but not fall 377. Dating from the Danube crossing would avoid this problem. Jacob Haller 00:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true - it gets confusing renaming the article to Gothic War (376/377-382) - maybe your right just use the Danube crossing 376. -- Stbalbach 05:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will soon move article to Gothic War (376-382) unless other editors object. Using the ordinary dash (on the keyboard) unless other editors object. Jacob Haller 01:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ordinary dash is better, I don't know why someone moved it to the special dash. Maybe it's a rule or something but it adds a lot of confusion. -- Stbalbach 15:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: I've been revising the Battle of Adrianople article, and thought the more-or-less revised background section was more appropriate in this article than the other article. Any thoughts on copying parts of the Adrianople article to this article?
:I'm not the only one working on this either. Srry if that came out wrong. Jacob Haller 03:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Adrianople 

message: For some reason, searching for/linking to Gothic War (377-382) doesn't work. What's with that? Jacob Haller 18:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the type of dash used. I just made it a re-direct so it will work either way. -- Stbalbach 19:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Searchable/Linkable

message: Referring to the Tervingi as Visigoths and the Greuthungi as Ostrogoths in this context was confusing.  The Visigoths effectively originated as the Goths (and others) who made peace with the Romans in 382 - they were probably predominantly Terving, but some were probably Greuthung and others neither - see, for instance, the Peter Heather reference. The Ostrogoths came together several decades later, from Goths (possibly but not certainly mainly Greuthungi) who been subjected by the Huns. PWilkinson 20:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tervingi, Greuthungi, Visigoths and Ostrogoths 

message: At present, it states that the war was the first barbarian invasion in a series of events over the next century that would see the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.
But this was by no means the first "barbarian invasion," and it was primarily a revolt of refugees, not an "invasion" at all. Also, it was in the east, and it's controversial how much effect it had on the collapse of the western Roman Empire. 64.118.110.171 (talk) 17:59, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious claims in the lede