Talk:Red Arrows

message: Just a note to try and help clear up the confusion about the Reds time at Rissy. Although the team aircraft were based at Kemble for day to day operational flying and First and Second line technical cover, Central Flying School at Little Rissington was the overall HQ base for personnel accommodation (Messes, Medical centres, station duties etc!) and Winter Servicing. 
Three aircraft at a time were sent up to Rissy at the end of the season for Third line (deep) servicing which took about 6 weeks each to complete. The other aircraft still at Kemble were used to start training up the 3 new pilots for the next season.
I was privileged to have been at Rissy and Kemble, apart from a couple of short tours to far-flung places, from 1970 to 1981 as an aircraft electrician and was with the travelling team for the 78, 79 and 80 seasons which included the changeover from the Gnat to the Hawks at the end of 1979.
My first seasons secondary duty was on the coloured smoke team so if anybody has blue or red spatters on their stuff from those days......... Sorry!!!
If anyone wants to get in touch about those days please leave a message.
Regards, Mikeinfrance
:Hi Mike, thanks for that. It confirms the above, which pleases me no end! By the way, if you indent a paragraph it gets formatted within a box like computer code, so I have taken the liberty of correcting that. Graham 23:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Arrows at Little Rissy 

message: It seems to me that a lot of the see alsos - specifically, the ones to the foreign aerobatic teams - are not really relevant, as we have the template down at the bottom which links to all of them. With the exception of the Black Arrows, none of them are particularly more relevant than any of the others already in the template, so I think they ought to be removed. --Scott Wilson 20:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  See alsos 

message: Quoting: In 1977, a charge of £200 was introduced for a Red Arrows display. By 2000, the charge had become £2,000 (including VAT and insurance). To date (April 2005), the Red Arrows have performed over 3,400 times.Sky-Flash. "the Red Arrows history". Accessed  12 April 2005
This fact is according to somebody I know is very much innaccurate as, in 2001, the cost including tax is over £7000 and that exclude insurance and other costs. Willirennen 21 July 2006
:That would make sense though, inflation/insurance costs have been a lot since 1977. Of course it would be great to have some referenced up-to-date info. Martin 14:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This quote is not helpful. Who is charging whom for what? Can I hire the Red Arrows for my birthday party for £2,000? This makes no sense at all. --Yath 22:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a charge made by the Red Arrows for displays, whether they would display for your birthday has nothing to do with this, as they clearly accept/reject requests on a range of criteria. Martin 22:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It still doesn't say who charges the amount, and to whom. It's an unconnected statement that will only make readers scratch their heads. --Yath 00:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It now says a charge was introduced "by the MOD", clearly the charge is going to be for the organisation requesting the display. Martin 08:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Costs of hiring

message: Is there a list of shows online anywhere? Does anyone have the date of the 1973 Lisbon display? Bastie 08:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this it took place on 13 June 1973. 2fort5r (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Shows? 

message: Does anyone know the sort of dates the squadron is based at Akrotiri during their winter training? Thanks, Colds7ream (talk) 11:21, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winter Training 

message: The accident has now been widely reported (e.g. by the BBC ), so I can see no reason not to include this - an I.P. has twice deleted the section though. Can I ask him/her to explain why?
I'll remind everyone than any content on this will need to be based on published reliable sources: no speculation please, in the article, or on the talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree a fatal accident is notable to a display team - the pilot has been identified by the media but doesnt really need a page of his own so I have redirected Jon Egging to this page. MilborneOne (talk) 18:56, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Yes, I saw that, Thanks. The Telegraph has more details , though I'd take their comment about Egging making a "dramatic attempt to steer [the plane] away from nearby houses" as pure speculation - the media tend to say this about every aircraft crash. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This photo shows a light to the rear of the plane, it isn't a fire nor a strobe, perhaps a laser pointer reflecting off a part of the aircraft? Twobells (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  August 2011 accident 

message: The Diamond Nine Formation is mentioned multiple times in this article, and yet no picture is shown of it.
I think there's scope for this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.11.100 (talk) 23:30, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  diamond nine 

message: Anybody know why the current team is listed, if this is an encyclopedia should it not list all the team members in each slot since the team was formed. The pilot section is a bit biased towards the 2011 team and fails to cover other years in the same way. Perhaps this section should be revised. MilborneOne (talk) 11:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the list it is not the role of an encyclopedia to be a guide to the current team, anybody notable can be mentioned in the text and the current team can be found in the link to the RAF website. Highly likely a misuse of crown copyright images as well. MilborneOne (talk) 19:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team list 

message: As the reports on this are very mixed at the moment, I would think it's probably best to wait until official MOD confirmation before adding it to the article -- Dave_Dubya 17:26, 08 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  November 2011 incident 

message: The planned move to Waddington and final closure of RAF Scampton, originally scheduled for 2011, has been backspaced to at least 2014 and possibly longer. 21st CENTURY  GREENSTUFF 17:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Planned relocation to RAF Waddington

message: Why are people promoting this for Featured article status when it cannot pass B-class?--Petebutt (talk) 19:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was back in 2005.... KTC (talk) 20:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC? 

message: What awards or recognition have the Red Arrows received in all their flying years i.e. Worlds Best Aerobatic Team, Services to the Public, etc.?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.49.156.22 (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards / Recognition 

message: There is no mention of dusty, mascot of the red arrows. 10:33, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dusty, dog mascot  

message: I was stationed at RAF Little Rissington 1962-63 and 1964-1966/
I was a navigation instruments Engineer working on HP2.
At one time in 1963 we had a line of JP4 Red Pelicans and a line of Gnats Red Arrows.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scouseatrissy (talk • contribs) 14:39, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Pelicans to Red Arrows 

message: The March 1978 accident section seems to have been vandalized or just bad faith edited. I was unable the find the possibly bad edit, so I could not revert to the last edit in which this section was comprehensive. Please fix this section if you can. 31.164.235.249 (talk) 14:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Which parts do you think are "vandalized or just bad faith edited"? The material has not fundamentally changed for a few years. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: These two parts: "One seat fired, but I can't remember which, but couldn't go anywhere.", and "Quote:"3 Mar 1978, in the footnote you are not sure which ejection seat fired. It was the rear seat (Wg Cdr Hazell). The aircraft had hit the ground and then bounced back into the air, one wing then dug in and the aircraft cartwheeled eventually ending up upside down. During this time it was still travelling at some speed and as the rear seat was a little higher and the canopy was broken, it made contact with the ground pulling the top handle of the seat and setting off the ejection sequence, but as you say the seat could not go anywhere and so the seat rails came out through the bottom of the floor. Sadly I witnessed this crash from start to finish, with many others, as it was a families day for the Red Arrows and many people were there to watch the practice".". My reason for suspecting bad editing is because it is written in a first-person perspective, which is not appropriate for Wikipedia pages unless it is in the form of a quote and attributed to the person quoted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.164.235.249 (talk) 14:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 1978 accident