Talk:Osamu Dazai

message: — Assignment last updated by Dslaym (talk) 13:57, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

message: This article should be retitled.  His hame is Osamu Dazai, not Dazai Osamu.
:In Japanese his name is DAZAI Osamu.  Dazai is his family name.  In Japanese, the family name always comes first.  Since this is an article concerning a person in Japanese literature I think the more academic style, the name order as it originally appears in the Japanese, should be used.  Most of the other Japanese literary articles follow this convention.  Outside the circles of those who read Japanese literature, he is not a well known person.
If someone searches for "Osamu Dazai", there is a redirect page that will bring people to this article.  This is my interpretation of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style for Japan-related articles. --Mp623
::Despite that, his name is re-ordered in English versions of his works. It is a common practice to switch the naming order. There is no doubt that he is referred to in the Japanese language as "Dazai Osamu". WhisperToMe 00:17, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, "I enjoy the works of Twain Mark, especially Sawyer Tom. Recently, I saw the famous actor Hanks Tom play Gump Forrest on TV." While Wikipedia:Manual of Style for Japan-related articles has been agreed to after much discussion, the use of western name ordering is not only jarring to people with more than a passing familarity with Japanese, but is positively ridiculous to any native speaker.--MChew 07:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming

message: As a Japanese, I am glad to see a good article about one of the best authors
in Japan. But I want you to know that few of the bibliographical facts you stated 
seem to be out-of-date. I don't blame this, because I don't think there is any 
up-to-date reference book about him published in English language.
1. He almost had no connection to Marxism and its followers. He did lend his
apartment as a secret conference room, but he did it because he was asked by a 
friend, and he himself did not attend this conference.
2. Now many scholars agree that most of his attemted suicides were make-believes.
He was perfectly aware that he wouldn't die from the actions he was about to take,
but he did it anyway to get attention and possibly some financial aid from his home.
3. Related to the previous point, there is a high possibility that he did not
commit double-suicide with Tomie, but was killed by her and then was tied around to
her body, who then jumped in the river afterwards. Some say decent amount of cyanide 
was found from his body at the autopsy. Dazai in 1948 was at the apex of his life,
and it is hard to imagine him wanting to be dead. 
Just wanted to inform you. Thanks.
:Please sign your comments! In reference to the above--while it is certain that he was not a serious Marxist, or and certainly not an official card-carrying member of the Japan Communist Party, it is undeniable that he had a strong attraction to communism as a political philosophy as a youth, attended meetings, and spoke out in favor of "class struggle" -- perhaps as another form of adolescent protest against his family. He was one of many authors forced to recant their leftist ideology under the Tenko strategy promulgated by the government. With regards to point 3, conspiracy theories abound, but remain theories. His deteriorating physical and clearly unstable mental health make suicide a very likely possibility.--MChew 07:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your bibliographical facts seem to be out-of-date 

message: Hello, I am a student who will be adding new information about Dazai from these sources:
Dazai Osamu James A. O’Brien ISBN0805726640
The saga of Dazai Osamu : a critical study with translations Lyons, Phyllis I. ISBN0804711976
and I also plan to translate and verify and add some information on the Japanese Wikipedia for Osamu Dazai using the sources: 
 ピカレスク 太宰治伝 by 猪瀬 直樹
 太宰治生涯と文学 by 野原一夫
If you have any suggestions or tips please let me know!
MishaGriego (talk) 03:50, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding 

message: Maybe it might be a bit disrespectful to have an image of his body after he commited suicide? Especially given his background leading up to it. Astrobirder (talk) 20:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Osamu Dazai's Body 

message: There are open issues for neutrality and not following the MOS, but I'm not seeing anything obvious -- what are these referring to? Jpatokal (talk) 04:04, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering about that myself . . . Krimp Varkey (talk) 12:06, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality and MOS? 

message: His death was listed as being suicide by hanging. I changed it to suicide by drowning. This is because the page states that he drowned himself.
Please notify me if this was a mistake. I don't see why this contradiction was there in the first place. 2001:569:BF36:B00:C4DD:1ACD:A4CF:F0E1 (talk) 05:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I've expanded the list of Dazai's works using The Saga of 
Dazai Osamu 
by Phyllis Lyons; the table should definitely be looked over by someone fluent in Japanese who can add the appropriate characters to the new titles that only have rōmaji, and also make sure that I didn't make any mistakes! (I wasn't able to find an appropriate infobox for this, so if anybody knows of one, please include it). An additional bibliography other than Lyons's to cite would also be good. As much as I would like this list to be complete, there are a number of stories in Crackling Mountain and Other Stories, not listed by Lyons, that I didn't include because they are not given publication dates. Some brave and intrepid soul could perhaps consult this collection and see if they can incorporate any or all of the stories that aren't already included, though again, they'd have to find another source for the dates. Krimp Varkey (talk) 10:21, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded Works section 

message: I would also suggest that the brief plot summaries below the list of works be moved or incoporated into other pages. Krimp Varkey (talk) 10:26, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move plot summaries? 

message: This article contained no actual samples of Dazai's work, which seems like a real shame.  I've added back a previously deleted quotation that's (IMHO) quite autobiographical and encapsulates his style well, this time with the source & translator credited, so we should still be within WP:COPYQUOTE guidelines. Jpatokal (talk) 22:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation