Talk:Britney Spears/Archive 4

message: There should be some sort of timeline listing every single controversy that Britney has had, from her stripping impromptu in the MTV VMAs in 2000, to her not wearing panties when she got out of a car with Paris Hilton.
:Well why don't you start it? Myrockstar 22:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no problem in it. -- Rollo44 02:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Article for All of Britney's Controversies

message: Is it mentioned - coz i either didnt read the article well enough or its been removed - i dont think its there and it shud be included as its a prestigious (cant spell that word) award. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.64.175.122 (talk) 21:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Star on walk of fame 

message: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_ce/people_federline
iT DOESN't exist.  sorry to burst bubbles
--68.102.37.191 01:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SEx TAPE NOT REAL 

message: "Spears' role in pop music has been largely disputed." -- Yet in the paragraph there is no mention of a dispute of any sort.
::I've taken the sentence out. It doesn't say what her role is (for example, it could be "Spears' role as a diva in pop music has been..."). If the role isn't defined, it can't be disputed. Or undisputed. Gone.—Chidom talk  08:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy? 

message: This is some unsourced material I'll put here in case I can find a source, or someone else can
""I believe that you marry in your heart and that means much more than a piece of paper. If I don't feel it there, than nothing else matters. You can write anything down on paper, but the real truth is love." Originally, Spears refused to have a prenuptial agreement, but her manager, Larry Rudolph, and her family insisted she do so and she subsequently fired Rudolph after the wedding."
I had seen on E! True Hollwyood Story: Britney and Kevin, that Britney mutually agreed with Larry Rudolph on firing him.  I didn't see anything about prenutpial, I am unsure of that.
Myrockstar 14:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material 

message: I have moved alot of content into her bio, alot of the things from controversy I merged it into the appropriate sections since other of her controversial issues could be find there.  I also moved someo of the facts from "Career Achievements" into the bio, I deleted that section.  I also deleted the "politics" and "religioin" sections, and moved the content into appropriate areas since they were only small parapgraphs and seemed more controversial rather than something personal. Myrockstar 15:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging of paragraphs 

message: Here's something I have noticed lately.  If "Brittany Spears" redirects to this page, then how come "Bubba Brister" doesn't redirect to the former National Football League quarterback Bubby Brister?  I figure that both names are close enough to the actual names, so I would like some consistency here.--Desmond Hobson 17:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats probably because someone took the time to make the redirect, since youo noticed that "Bubba Brister" doesnt redirect, then make it yourself. 68.203.243.154 23:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, Desmond. I did it for you. ~  Porphyric Hemophiliac § 00:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  
Just a question
 

message: Could someone who knows a lot about the recent interview with Matt Lauer add it to the main article?
:It was already their, I don't know why it was removed. Myrockstar 15:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Matt Lauer interview

message: Even though most of the contoversy surrounding her child is news, it is still a significant part of her life in the past year, and should be included.  I added back the Dateline, and Harper's interview because it was sourced.  Info about the driving incidents, and Sean falling off of the high chair should also be added back when they are sourced. Myrockstar 16:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contoversy 

message: Someone has violated the page of "From the Bottom of My Broken Heart" again.  He or she removes the single cover and adds a crappy picture of an object.  This person needs to be stopped.  Also on the ...Baby One More Time (song) page that is the international album cover not the single cover.
:Thanks for that, I changed the picture, though I don't think it was vandalism, someone probably uploaded a photo and named it "Broken" which replaced the single picture. Bad move in the uploaders part.  Also, I believe that was the cover of ...BOMT for the US as well, but I'm not sure, I went to Amazon.com and most of the covers were imports, do you know what cover is the US one?  Just put a link and I'll upload it. Myrockstar 04:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: From the Bottom of My Broken Heart

message: "In August 2006, a rather peculiar video[2] of Britney began circulating the internet."
The original source of the so-called "Youtube" video is seldom mentioned in any of the articles that have been written about it.  Several of these pieces have claimed that the video was "leaked to the internet".  In fact, the video was officially released by Spears herself in September 2005 as part of the "bonus footage" on her "Chaotic" DVD.71.203.30.14 22:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Youtube" Video 

message: I moved the "mergefrom" request for Jason Allen Alexander to the "public image" section rather than "career development" -- even though it fit the timeline, it doesn't really relate to her career.  In any event, I support the merge because JAA is notable only for his 55 hours of fame and there is little other information on his own page. HalJor 21:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge from Jason Allen Alexander

message: then she also recorded cover version of Crystal Waters' classic dance hits "Gypsy Woman (She's Homeless)" (1991), "100% Pure Love" (1994) and Stevie V's house/dance classic song "Dirty Cash (Money Talks)" (1990) however, In the article Spears had also commented that her impending childbirth, a second scheduled caesarean section, "[would] be a piece of cake." [24] On August 20, 2006, Spears introduced her husband, Kevin Federline, at the Teen Choice Awards. This was her first appearance at an awards show in almost two years. Britney will also release a new fragrance in late fall or early winter; it will be her fourth fragrance in all. Britney and her husband Kevin Federline also appeared via satellite at the 2006 MTV Video Music Awards that were held in New York to present the award for Best R&B Video. They performed a quick skit kicking back at what the media portray them as, even as far as pretending to misplace their child. This however was not seen to be in good humour, as the UK's Daily Mirror commented on September 2 that their joke went down like a lead balloon. In fact, in subsesquent replays of the VMA's on MTV, the skit is completely edited out and goes right from Jack Black introducing Spears and Federline to them announcing the nominees.
All of this info is useless and really isnt needed.
:Is there any info about Ms. Spears that isn't basically useless?  :-)  *Dan T.* 00:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plenty of info actually, just refer to the article ;-). Myrockstar 02:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless Information 

message: then she also recorded cover version of Crystal Waters' classic '90s dance hits "Gypsy Woman (She's Homeless)", "100% Pure Love" and Stevie V's classic song "Dirty Cash (Money Talks)"   *Unforgivable* 13:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Remove it yourself. Myrockstar 02:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why, but I can't. *Unforgivable* 13:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source? 

message: I believe that the reference to Spears "claiming" Native American heritage is crazy. Everyone knows Britney Spears is not Native American, she's a freaking beaner! Her dark hair and tan skin obviously show she is Mexican. Does Britney even look Native American? No, she looks like a Mexican. If it wasn't for her so called singing talents, she'd be sweeping floors at your local McDonalds 2nd shift.
:That's so racist I don't even know how to respond to it. Gafaddict 23:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native American 

message: Don't post a link to her snatch pics, and don't even mention it at all.  What kind of encyclopedia is this?  A crappy puritantical POV encyclopedia
71.39.78.68 05:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there a WIKI::SILLY-CENSORs TEMPLATE

message: Radiokirk, without taking sides - I'm very concerned you used admin powers to protect this article while being a party in the dispute. See Wikipedia:Protection_policy. This is perhaps one of the oldest and most respected tenets of Wikipedia administrator behavior. Can you please explain? Otherwise, I'll have to unprotect. -- Fuzheado | Talk 06:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply here. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 06:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read your note. How is reporting a verifiable fact "damaging", especially in light of the other stuff already listed in the article? Wahkeenah 13:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An encyclopedia is not a tabloid; beginning, middle and end of story. This sort of potentially damaging data—and, make no mistake, it is exactly that—requires the demonstration of its effect, or its inclusion is to unduly titillate and nothing more. (Edit: This is particularly true of the first version I saw, in which the encyclopedia essentially used the data to question her fitness as a parent.) Frankly, I don't care if the young woman wants to flash her snatch for all the world to see; until and unless the entire cause-and-effect equation is satisfied, they will not see it here. Meantime, I personally would like to see the Harper's Bazaar paragraph strengthened with comparative sales figures—I'm reasonably certain the article would not succeed WP:FA candidacy without it. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radiokirk - improper protection? 

message: I am unprotecting the article for now, without prejudice, meaning the WP:BLP#Public_figures policy has not been obviously violated, and the result is best characterized as a content dispute. Cheers. -- Fuzheado | Talk 10:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Myrockstar 16:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: What the hell is Kirk's problem anyway?  This is not a Britney fan page.  The mention of those infamous shots is certainly worthy of mention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.118.110.207 (talk) 05:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nor is it a tabloid nor a repository for fancruft. "That something is 100% true does not mean it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia", the policy states, and the only way such data is suitable is if it satisfies both cause and effect, as the just-restored version arguably does (the entire section was deleted as part of several vandalism edits by User:148.61.13.4). RadioKirk (u|t|c) 06:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand why someone "going commando" is worth a mention in an encyclopedia article.  Powers T 15:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Just curious - the page still seems to be semi-protected, yet I don't see it on the list of semiprotected pages (that I was able to find), nor is its semiprotection status listed in the article.  Should the page be semi-protected?  If so, should it be mentioned in the article? Mr.POV 18:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotected 

message: This article represents one of the best examples of NPOV I've seen on Wikipedia. (For a celebrity) Both Spears and Federline are treated fairly by the article. Well done!! Michaelh2001 19:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congratulations!!! 

message: Is there a way to compile all the audio samples into one list? Being spread all over the article makes it look cluttered. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.203.249.145 (talk • contribs).
:Well check it here: :Category:Britney Spears audio samples, actually I don't think it is being spread all over the article I only added two audio samples per timeline.--HW-Barnstar PLS 17:00, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I put them all on a list in her discography section.  I stole the idea from the Prince article. Myrockstar 05:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio Samples 

message: Could someone update the article with a paragraph or two regarding her passing out drunk in a club on New Year's?  Also, she seems to have checked herself into rehab to address her drug and alcohol problems. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.84.98.225 (talk) 00:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passing out in drunk and now in rehab 

message: Don't ask me why I'm even on this page, that's the nature of Wikipedia I guess, you never know where you'll click next. I can understand the vague connection to England through her mother for the English-American category, but American expats in the UK? I had a quick look and found nothing in the article about her living in the UK. What's that all about? ByteofKnowledge 20:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ex-pat thing is probably due to UK tabloid newspaper claims the she was looking to move to the UK.  It happens all the time: as soon as a foreigner becomes popular in Britain the papers start printing stories like "(X) looking for house in Britain!"; "(Y) moving to the UK! [insert invented quote]".  They are mostly crap, but sometimes correct (by chance I'm sure).  As for the English-American category, I don't see how a living maternal grandmother could be considered a vague connection: it makes her mother half-English with a right to a UK passport for a start.  And anyway, this resource is packed full of so-called "Irish-Americans", their only claim (often made on their behalf by Wikipedians seemingly with an agenda) is made on the basis of an Irish relative tracked back five or more generations and ignoring any other nationalities in their heritage - including since the claimed Irish member.  Other claims are based on nothing more than surname, rumour and hair/eye colour.  Or you get the ridiculous situation we ocassionaly have with Mischa Barton - born in the UK to an English father and Irish mother yet in the past some Wikipedians have insisted she is Irish-American and not English-American and have tried to delete references to the UK. 86.17.211.191 14:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories: English-Americans & American expats in UK 

message: Britney's reality TV show, Chaotic: Britney & Kevin, premiered on UPN, not MTV.  It may have showed on MTV in syndication later on, however it was first shown on UPN.  I am not sure how to change this in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cdoerr (talk • contribs) 18:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV Show 

message: Does anyone else think this article is getting too long?  I think that the pop culture and public image sections need their own articles or need one together.  The hitaus, children and divorce section needs to trimmed down.  Charmed36 00:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate articles

message: I noticed the current image is a bit old and doesn't show her face and would like to propose the following picture I took. 
:Image:12rb9.jpg
Greolock 02:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Send proof to permissions(at)wikimedia(dot)org  and it works for me. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 03:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I can't speak for permissions, but what I would usually do is send another image with the same camera as proof I took it myself. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: image

message: We have to put a new picture of Britney the one there is now is way to old. Take one from the new years eve party of from her at the award show where she was just months ago. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.25.197.193 (talk) 16:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture 

message: Shouldn't there be something in the article about the In Touch Weekly magazine article which makes accusations that Britney Spears has had several lesbian relationships and how it may affect the outcoming of the battle for custody of her children? 68.162.0.79 03:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can source it, then sure. Alex43223 Talk | Contribs | E-mail | C 10:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: In Touch Weekly, which claims the exclusive, quotes "[r]ap music producer Omar 'Iceman' Sharif," an unidentified "insider", and an unidentified "friend". I wouldn't touch that story with a ten-inch "marital aid"... RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alledged Lesbianism 

message: The CNN citation (#44) link is given as a NBC studio article, the same link as the one Citation #43. Below is a CNN article about Britney that may be the correct article.  Zidel333 22:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CNN Citation incorrect 

message: The article implies the salon owner shaved Britney's head.  According to CNN, the salon owner refused and Britney herself did the shaving.
I saw a couple things of it on the channel E! today and the people at the salon did refuse to do it so she did it herself.
It doesn't make sense that she tried to get them to shave it since she claims that she got it done because she wanted people to stop "touching" her. --Sexecutioner 00:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salon Owner 

message: To the editors of this article, please do not add an image of Britney's recent bald photos if they are not free use.  Also, consider proposing picture changes here on the talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This'll be one to watch for developments. It looks like Britney's losing it. The current image is fine though in my opinion.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 19:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bald Image 

message: "Spears has sold over seventy-six million records worldwide according to TIME magazine.[1]"  should be shortened to "Spears has sold over seventy-six million records worldwide.[1]"Modocc 19:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unplug attribution,"according to TIME" please, thanks.   

message: As for the image, I think one of my colleagues has one that was taken at a more recent concert. If I can get him to find it, we'll go ahead and replace it, per discussion above. Imageboy1 21:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As a matter of fact, I do. I took about a hundred pics at the concert. I'll sift through and find one to use. BUDSMR 22:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, putting it in. BUDSMR 22:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Lol, it's SP, put it in for me. BUDSMR 22:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image