Talk:List of Tinkoff riders and staff

message: I have reservations about this page. As per WP:NOT#IINFO, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of items of information. This page is indiscriminate and I think qualifies as WP:CRUFT. Can we either include only people notable for their achievements at CSC, or have major achievements through their career (such as a Grand Tour top 5, winner of a one-day ProTour race or top 3 in a Monument) and also at some point raced for CSC? Mk3severo 14:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would make it too similar to the list in the main article Team CSC.  The list is not indiscriminate, only sports directors and riders are included, not mechanics or soigneurs).  As is, the list answers  trivia questions like "who rode together with Hamilton on Team CSC" (probably more likely to be asked in DK (where Team CSC is a household name) than in UK), and thus can be quite useful.--Per Abrahamsen 17:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is (and encyclopedia in general are) all about trivia (in fact, Wikipedia specifically forbids non-trivial stuff through the "no original research" rule).  I also fail to see how it would improve the usefulness of the list to be incomplete.  Would List of Danish monarchs be more useful if the "unimportant" kings were omitted?  Almost all the value of the "List of" articles lies in them being complete.  This article is not about the team, it is about the former staff off the team.  The article about the team already includes a list of the most the most important former staff. --Per Abrahamsen 14:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
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