Talk:Thebes, Egypt

message: The complete body of the text on Thebes has been replaced for the second time with an article that is rife with Afrocentric bias. Moreover, it is, quite frankly, poorly written, and it is not properly formatted for use with Wiki. To the anonymous individual at 24.209.250.134 who is posts this material, please read  Wikipedia:Neutral point of view article and the relevent pages on formatting.
I am therefore changing the article back to what it was before the Afrocentric version was inserted. I would, however, like to invite 24.209.250.134 to contribute all s/he wants, but ask that a NPOV be maintained. We can then avoid an edit war.  --Nefertum17 08:55, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Which bias would you prefer? Rktect 10:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afrocentric bias not needed 

message: Ancient Egyptian Waset was called Thebes by the Greeks,  Baines and Ma'lek pp 84-107  T3 ipet was the Luxor temple. Djeme (Medinet Habu) sounded similar to that of the Greeks Boetian city. Local rulers were expansionist in the first and second intermediate periods when the Mycenean Greek emporia in the delta were beginning to do to Egypt what Western inroads in Shanghai did to China in the 18th century. Monuments earlier than the old kingdom are scarce and Thebes appears to be closely linked to the rise of the mummification industry at Karnak in the Eleventh dynasty of Egypt and the Twelfth dynasty of Egypt Red Sea trade which supplied it with GoldBitumen, Naptha, Natron, Frankincense, Myrrh, and carved stone amulets. In the Seventeenth dynasty of Egypt the carving of tombs into the rock of the Valley of Kings increased Thebes stature and allows the kings of Thebes to drive the Hyksos out. In the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt the attention shifts to the wars against Kadesh and Syria. The disruption of the Amarna letters with the Habiru bandits moving northwest from Elat into Canaan, and the raids and piracy of the Sea People as described by Wen Amon forcing stronger border defenses. In the Nineteenth dynasty of Egypt Rameses Meri Amun named the horses of his war chariot "Victory of Thebes" but a good deal of his time was spent campaigning in the north and the affairs of Thebes are left to the temple administrators of Amun. During the third intermediate period Thebes formed a counterbalance to the influence of the 21st and 22nd Dynasty Libyan kings who ruled from Tanis in the delta. As the original Montu, the bull of Thebes developed into a a triad dedicated to Amon, Mut and Khons, Thebes (T3-ipet), plus Luxor (Ipet-resyt), and Karnak (Ipet-isut) formed a temple complex that with Deir-el bahr stretched an itrw or river journey, 1/10 of a geographical degree along the Nile. Rktect 11:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antiquity of Thebes 

message: Can't believe the city's name is included in several languages but not in the original :) There are several versions for it, I don't know if it's possible to put these hiero boxes next to each other so that they'll look nice?
			
"Waset" means "City of the Sceptre", "niwt-rs.t" is "Southern City" and "iunu-shema" is "Heliopolis of the South". (There are two words for south because rs, feminine rs.t means south and sm’ means literally "upstream on the river". – Alensha talk 12:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name in hieroglyphs

message: If they aren't being used, don't include them.
That said, the following can be used for expanding the article or can be used to cite facts that are currently unreferenced:
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 — LlywelynII 23:33, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "References"

message: "On the west bank, he built the his enormous mortuary temple and the equally massive Malkata palace-city which fronted a 364-hectare arificial lake." 
The word "artificial" has been misspelled. I tried to correct it but I am not a registered user and so was unable to alter a semi protected page. Thank you! 
BakaSugiru (talk) 13:05, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: and resolve "the his" as your quote - Arjayay (talk) 17:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2016 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Thebes is the setting of at least a few notable novels. Would a section listing these novels be an improvement? For starters:
* A God Against the Gods & Return to Thebes
* Eye of the Moon
* Thebes at War
I suspect there are others as well. I've only done a cursory search. Eye of the Moon is an orphan, and I think this is a good opportunity to properly incorporate it into the encyclopaedia.
Matthew V. Milone (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: "In popular culture" sections have problems; they often accumulate a great deal of trivia. If you're thinking of including modern novels, such a section would be more or less dedicated to a subcategory of "in popular culture". Moreover, Thebes is probably the most popular setting for novels set in ancient Egypt because it's one of very few major Egyptian cities whose geography is easy to reconstruct. Thus, the list could get very long. If you do decide to make such a section, I recommend the advice in the essay Wikipedia:"In popular culture". A. Parrot (talk) 00:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to know. In that case, it might be a bad idea. Still, it seems worth mentioning somewhere in the article what you said: that our unusual amount of knowledge about the city makes it a popular setting for stories. Thanks for the input. Matthew V. Milone (talk) 01:19, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be worth including, but, unfortunately, I know of no reliable source that says what I just said. Without sources it's original research and can't be added to the article. A. Parrot (talk) 01:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposing "In literature" section 

message: I am not a linguist, but Arabic form of its name, طیبة, may be interpreted as Pure or pleasant or neat. مسعوداص (talk) 04:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of thebes