Talk:Jars of Clay

message: Wouldn't it be best if the albums were made into their own articles? Since there's already so much text there, there's no reason not to do so. Any rejections?
The only problem being that that leaves us with several album articles quite longer than their band's article.
Sirnickdon 06:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking the same. I'll try to work on it now, as well as expand the band history with a little more early history. Thief12 01:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: This section appears to be not NPOV by wiki standards. Some of it is factual, but other parts of it seems like just opinion. Want to rewrite, anyone??
:Edit: I've tried to rewrite, and I rennamed the section to something more neutral, however I'm not sure if it should be kept.Decafpenguin 05:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unmistakeable Jars of Clay

message: I was surprised that this article made no mention of Blood:Water Mission or the band's multiple Grammy wins. This info has since been added, along with an early history section and some other minor additions.
Im sure "flood" was on the US top 100 singles. can anyone check that out?.
:Ive added "Album Charts & RIAA Certifications" & "Single Charts" sections Dan, the CowMan 06:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: Belew only produced two songs on the debut, not the whole album. This is verifiable from that record's liner notes and should probably be made clearer. I'm not that involved with wikipedia so I thought I'd leave this to someone who is.
Belew was the executive producer Thenext 01:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Recently, a user from an unknown IP has removed all singles from Good Monsters from this list, stating that none of them ever reached the top slot. Is this a fact? Where is the source for the singles from the previous albums? Anyone? aJCfreak yAk 17:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and reverted the anon's edit, so the songs are back on the page pending a reference or reason for the deletion of the Good Monsters singles in the first place. I don't know if they made #1 or not, but they shouldn't be removed like that without a reference given. Vbdrummer0 06:38, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where are they now? who erase them again? I was the one who add them in the first place, and I'm sure Dead Man & Work reached a very high level (constantly been heared in the radio), I'll add sources later, There is a River has been just released as a single, so I don't know if that counts. I'm adding them again... Fca780 11:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've spent a good hour or so trying to find any evidence/references which point towards the singles reaching #1 on any charts. However, I've found none. The only thing I've found out is that Work is currently at #30 on Hot Christian Songs Billboard chart. Its peak position was #27. If the above link does not work, just head over to Billboard.com and search for Jars of Clay. So I guess we should leave the CHR#1 charts for now.... As edited by the unknown IP. aJCfreak yAk 14:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I propose we leave the Good Monsters singles up for now (short term, a few days maybe), while everything gets sorted out, just to keep things stable and avoid any unintentional changes. I can't cite this as a real source, obviously, but I know one of the band members personally and he said something to the effect of going #1 with at least one Good Monsters single, but he could've been mistaken. I'll root around on the intertubes a bit. Vbdrummer0 16:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: An anonymous user with the IP address: 76.185.121.36 has been practicing Vandalisim on Jars of Clay's wiki, in the different sections of Band Members, Touring Members and Template claiming that a person with the name of Tyler Jarvis is on percussion as a fifth Jars of Clay member. Tyler Jarvis is NOT (or has been) a Jars of Clay member of any kind. I have made several edits (before I found out that this IP address was the same for all of this kind of changes) in the wiki and restore it from this false information. This person has been doing the same, with the same name in different wikis too. I undo them and tried to do that here but Wikipedia didn't let me because of the edits I did. Please report again if there is any other vandalisim change and report it here and to Wikipedia:Abuse reports. Thanks for your cooperation. --FCA 04:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalisim situation with fake "fifth" JOC member 

message: Not because it's ugly or doesn't fit the article, but it doesn't show the 4 members of Jars of Clay (Charlie Lowell is not in the picture) and do shows the other two touring members, which is kind of ironic. We can replace it with one of [these] which will be used for the PR of their Christmas Album. The current image may be used also in the 2000s subsection in the Band history part. What do you think? --FCA 21:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to second this motion.... ;) but... FCA, you mentioned that we can replace it with one of [these].... If I may ask, whese pix where you referring to? Your partially bemused Wiki-friend, aJCfreak yAk 18:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd second the use of another image, however wouldn't suggest using a non-free image because if we ever want to elevate the article from B class to GA class or ever to FA class, be it possible, we can't use non-free images, as the band is still going. Only if it was impossible to get a picture of the band together would it be permissable for a "good" article. What's wrong with the picture of JOC that shows them getting their degrees at Greenville? --lincalinca 23:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The image with JOC getting their degrees is not current and wouldn't represent the band as it is, oh and I forgot about the link to Jars' press images for Christmas album. Here. Linca are you sure about not using this images been non-free? --FCA 07:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I mean, wwe can use them, but ultimately, I'd like to improve the article to become a Featured Article, but a milestone on the way to WP:FA is to become a good article, of which the criteria for use of non-free images is only applicable where it's for a band who're no longer together/deceased or part deceased, such as The Beatles. Because Jars are still together, it's quite easy (for some) to be able to get a photo of them, and so non-free images aren't acceptable (and press kit shots are considered non-free as they're copyright to, generally, the photographer). --lincalinca 09:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Linca's right I guess (as always). If a free pic can be found, that's fine. If not, I think the current pic does look pretty cool. I say we keep it till we get a better one and focus on improving other areas of the article. aJCfreak yAk 14:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah of course we should continue improving the article, but I easily don't this as a distractor, so I'm trying to find a recent and better one, current one does look cool but doesn't represent the four members, which should be the greatest focus/use of the image, not to look cool only. I'll try to find something in Jarchives and I'll see what I can find. Thanks guys. :) --FCA 23:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of Jars of Clay main image 

message: Hey there people! I've just done a bit of an adjustment in the awards section and kind of stumbled upon an impasse in that there's: (a) got to be more awards than this (I don't know them all in the US) and (b) nominations for some that aren't noted here, or some that may only be nominations could be listed as wins, since the stie's being referenced only indicate nominees, not winners.
If anybody could come and help out with that, that'd be great. lincalinca 02:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards 

message: I was doing a little checking on the biographical pages on Odmark and Lowell.  What I gathered was that they both were born in New York City, but "originated" in Rochester, NY.  That's like being born in Los Angeles, but originating in Medocino, CA; born in Toronto, but originating in Sudbury; born in Paris, but originating from Nice.  In other words, one isn't born somewhere, but originates eight hours away (as much confusion several out-of-staters have on the location of Rochester and Buffalo, people who originate from there are born there, not New York City).
So my question is: where are they from?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paploo (talk • contribs) 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member biography 

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replies: text: The links all go to the iTunes main page and do not support anything. Not the bot's problem. It's a source problem. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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