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Talk:Shining Brow

message: At the very least a hatnote is required. "Shining Brow" itself refers in books as much or more to Taliesin himself, rather than this opera. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: I have a COI, so I'm not going to add these myself, but the Taliesen West performances were added to the article without any references.
* https://tucson.com/entertainment/music/a-celebrity-architect-a-brutal-murder-that-sounds-like-an/article_84fa0592-c0ce-5eeb-9e15-e3768a7e14e9.html
* https://operawire.com/arizona-opera-2019-20-review-shining-brow/
Plus, although a primary source, perhaps good enough to support the cast list:
* https://www.azopera.org/performances/shining-brow/cast
Maybe  could do this. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  refs for Taliesen West performances
Talk:The Ballad of Baby Doe

message: The entire sysnopsis is lifted from http://www.tamswitmark.com/shows/ballad-of-baby-doe/ without credit or citation (or the other way around). The clue is that Act One has a scene-by-scene synopsis, but Act Two has a two-paragraph summary. Another good reference source could be the booklet provided for the Heliodor recording (HS 25035-3).Tgkohn (talk) 02:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Synopsis source uncredited

message: "It is one of the few operas that have a baritone male lead, instead of the usual tenor"
I'm sorry, but a baritone lead is hardly unusual with opera. In addition the examples given in the article:
Rigoletto from Rigoletto - baritone
Figaro from the Marriage of Figaro - bass
Wotan from Das Rheingold - bass-baritone
Sweeney Todd from Sweeney Todd - bass-baritone
The Flying Dutchman - bass-baritone
Tony in The Most Happy Fella - baritone
Ko-Ko from The Mikado - baritone
Robin from Ruddigore - baritone
Jack Point from The Yeomen of the Guard - baritone
Don Giovanni - baritone  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.189.93 (talk) 17:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A few points here. First, several of the above works are not operas but operettas/musicals. Second, in general the baritone voice is relegated to supporting roles. The vast majority of operas do cast a tenor in the lead. I guess it all depends on how you define "few". While I am sure there are hundreds of operas with a baritone lead, there are thousands with a tenor lead. Consider the major composers. The vast majority of Verdi, Donizetti, Puccini, Massenet, Gounod, Gluck, Handel, Wagner, Cavalli, Berlioz, and Bizet operas have tenor leads. Mozart and Rossini for sure wrote a good number of operas starring baritones, but that's a relatively unusual habit for composers. Perhaps a better sentence would be "relatively few".Nrswanson (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Your assertion that "the above works are not operas but operettas/musicals" is specious. Rigoletto, The Marriage of Figaro, Das Rheingold, and The Flying Dutchman (Der fliegende Holländer) are without question opera. Notwithstanding your quibble, it is indeed true that 70% of operas have a tenor for the lead male role, but 30% is large enough to cast doubt on a statement that "few operas have a baritone male lead". Let's simply make the edit to remove the stretching comparison to 400 years of opera literature.Tgkohn (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baritone Lead
Category talk:Former atheists and agnostics

message: Dave Sim used to be an atheist, but he's now following a unique form of monotheism. I believe he should be added to this category.
:If this is so he should maybe be added to List of former atheists and agnostics. (I know "proponents of atheism" is a weird name, but it was someone else's idea to rename it that.)--T. Anthony 06:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening heading

message: ... wasn't he an atheist turned Christian too?
:He was a former atheist or agnostic yes. However his article had so many categories I wasn't sure if he needed another. Still you can make the call.--T. Anthony 06:17, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  C.S. Lewis ...
Talk:Saldanha Bay

message: The main jetty opened in the late 1970s.  The first cargo transfer there was in 1978 - but this was not iron ore, but [crude oil].
The Greek-owner VLCC "World Horizon" - about 225,000 [tonnes] [deadweight] - had lost her bulbous bow, whilst sailing round the [Cape of Good Hope], loaded, from the Oil Gulf.  She used Saldanha Bay as a port of refuge.  Another ship - the 'British Patience', about 249,00 tonnes deadweight, operated by BP - was chartered to take the oil from her on to its destination.  The oil transfer took several days, using flexible rubber hoses.  Reducing pieces had to be made up ashore, as the 'World Horizon's manifolds were to American standards, the receiving's ship's were metric, and the South African hoses were Imperial.  BP's superintendent on scene was Captain Ian McCuaig.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.73.148.164 (talk) 11:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 1978 oil transfer operation

message: can someone please give me the correct gps co-ords? and then you can use this code in the article Gbawden (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Map
Talk:The Consul

message: The introduction of the article mentions Rosemary Kuhlmann for this role, but AmadeusOnline has Gloria Lane (note nr.5). Anybody out there with a reliable printed source to solve this discrepancy? --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See this article in Opera News.4meter4 (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If I read this article correctly, Kuhlmann sang in the Broadway run in New York, which took place a month after the premiere in Philadelphia, so I assume Gloria Lane sang in the Philadelphia premiere (or is the late hour playing tricks with my brain?).--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article states Kuhlmann was offered the role to complete the Broadway run. Since Amadeus also has Gloria Lane for the Broadway premiere, I suppose Kuhlmann was called in to replace Gloria Lane for some reason. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think Lane did originate the part. While I don't believe this is considered a reliable source per wikipedia, an acquaintance of mine has meticulously gone through public records at the Free Library of Philadelphia (which has an extensive collection of opera programs), the library at Temple University, the archives at the Academy of Music (Philadelphia), all of Philadelphia's newspapers, etc. and compiled the data into a searchable format at http://frankhamilton.org/ph/. See http://frankhamilton.org/ph/ph2.pdf for details of The Consul premiere. 4meter4 (talk) 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Having had a second look at the on-line catalogue entry for the Naxos release, that also has Gloria Lane (no mention of Kuhlmann at all), so I went ahead and changed the names in the introduction. Thanks for yr help. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. Its not surprising that Kuhlmann was placed there in error. The Broadway run was what made the opera famous and much of the original cast from Philadelphia remained with the show. Thanks to you for discovering the mistake. I made a clarifying note in the article on Kuhlmann as well.4meter4 (talk) 23:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premiere cast - The Secretary
Talk:Salins-les-Bains

message: " http://www.franche-comte.org/dn_industrial_and_defensive_architecture/ "  It would certainly add to the lack of explanation found now on this site!96.19.156.227 (talk) 21:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  May I suggest an addition? 

message: Thus, English readers are left to their own devices to figure out just what the words in French mean.  That is most English readers might well understand that "Salins" means "salts" or in this case "salt water", but did the brainaic who posted this site ever condsider the other words?  NO!  The mostly un-educated person on first glance at this site, does not receive even the most rudimentary background in the meaning of the words.  Thus ""Bains" could mean either a "pot" or "basin" etc., which would really describe the "salt works" which at one time overran this area!  Thus the salt water would be either boiled or left to evaporate in the Sun, to relieve itself of the very important substance, of "Salt!"96.19.156.227 (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you want a place name translated?  Do you also want the sea port of Le Havre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Havre to have its name translated to The Haven?  When someone writes an entry for the salt works or the salt baths then you can expect the terms to be in English, but how am I supposed to find a town if it doesn't have an entry under its own name? MidlandLinda (talk) 16:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could not anyone related to this site, also contribute an "English!" meaning?
Talk:Salsomaggiore Terme

message: I have removed two of the sister cities, as they are no listed in the Italian Wikipedia - and at least for Bangkok it is definitely a wrong entry, as the city of Bangkok does not list this town in their website. Interestingly, Bangkok was wrongly listed since about the very first versions of the article and never questioned. andy (talk) 11:54, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sister city
Template talk:Paul Greengrass

message: :de:Paul_Greengrass#Filmografie_.28Auswahl.29 lists some films not listed in this template.  I've added The One That Got Away (1996 film), but at this point I'm not sure if the TV films should all be added.  Any opinions (or policies) on this? -- Ddxc 14:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which films to list
Talk:Salt Range

message: I removed this quote from the history section as it was both irrelevant to the history and is a bit dubious considering the person who quoted this is a recent political scientist rather than some historical observer or "primary source";
"Christophe Jaffrelot states: The Awan deserve close attention, because of their historical importance and, above all, because they settled in the west, right up to the edge of Baluchi and Pashtun territory. Legend has it that their origins go back to Imam Ali and his second wife, Hanafiya. Historians describe them as valiant warriors who imposed their supremacy on the Janjua and other Rajput tribes in part of the Salt Range, and established large colonies all along the Indus to Sind, and a densely populated centre not far from Lahore."
This source sounds more a matter of opinion than an absolute fact. And I challenge the statement that Awans ever imposed their supremacy upon the Janjua   and other rajput tribes. Janjuas are the political social elite of Choa Saidan Shah and Pind Dadan Khan tehsils of districts Chakwal and Jhelum. Other dominant rajput tribes such as Mair Minhas and Jodhras are predominant in the Chakwal and Pindi-Gheb tehsils, and much has been written about them in historical sources, so it is a bit fallacious and pompous to declare that Awans imposed some sort of supremacy upon these tribes. In fact the reverse might be true as Denzil Ibbettson's book mentions Awans as occupying a subordinate position below the Janjuas and the Gakkhars in Jhelum(previously chakwal was also included in Jhelum district). Land owning Janjua villages are still found in the Awan dominated parts of the salt range such as Talagang, where Kot Sarang is a village of land owning Janjua rajputs, hence there is hardly any supremacy of the awan tribe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.34.99 (talk) 14:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed this quote: 

message: Chail abdaal Basharat district Chakwal is the second tallest peak in salt range situated 3701 feet above sea level after sekesar Asim awan Basharat (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top peaks in Punjab/salt range in Pakistan
Talk:London Salvage Corps

message: I propose to move this article to London Salvage Corps to refelct the proper name of the organisation.  Which, incidentally, no longer exists.  The article is full of mixed tenses and some glaring inaacuracies. I'll start the process of formatting and tidying up over the coming days.  Any thoughts are welcome. Escaper27 17:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Propoesd move

message: Since the Corps was never part of local government, doesn't it belong perhaps in the economic history subcategory?  Jim.henderson (talk) 02:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NGO 

message: The records are kept at the London Metropolitan Archives - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F143870
Where should this be put? Jackiespeel (talk) 20:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Records
Talk:The Fortune Teller (operetta)

message: Hello! This is to let editors know that :File:Alice Neilsen's production of Victor Herbert's The Fortune Teller.jpg, a featured picture used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for March 27, 2023. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2023-03-27. For the greater benefit of readers, any potential improvements or maintenance that could benefit the quality of this article should be done before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page.  If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 20:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured picture scheduled for POTD
Talk:The Gambler (Prokofiev)

message: I've added a sentence about Rozhdestvensky conducting the premiere of the original version of The Gambler (plus a bit to indicate that the Brussels premiere was of the standard revised version). In doing so, I discovered that David Nice's biography of Prokofiev is far from immaculate so far as proof-reading is concerned, which makes me suspect his stated year of the premiere, 2000, is probably not be trusted above what is stated by the Bolshoi Theatre's website (and seemingly confirmed by the recording date of the live performance available on an Exton SACD/CD hybrid). Thought I would post this info here in case anyone else wonders why Nice has published a different date. Alfietucker (talk) 11:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Premiere of original version
Talk:The Gay Hussars

message: It seems very curious to find that this - alone of Kálmán's European operettas - is found under the title of an English-language revival, rather than its original Hungarian title (especially as most performances nowadays are either there, or in Austria and Germany as 'Ein Herbstmanöver'.) I feel that this calls out to be corrected. There are also multiple issues with the page, as to content, accuracy, style and spelling. Any disagreements? 
Zarzuelauk (talk) 19:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's OK with me.  Also, if you have sources that you can use to improve/expand the article, by all means, go ahead. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose move to 'Tatárjárás (operetta)' 
Talk:The Gypsy Baron

message: The article mentions that Strauss had been working on the operetta in 1883; however, Mór Jókai's novel, A cigánybáró, wasn't published until 1885, and not until 1886 in German, after the premiere date given for the operetta. The dates don't seem to work out. Likewise, the source is given as Sáffi, but Mór Jókai's novel (novella) A cigánybáró translates to English as "the gypsy baron." Did he have another work titled Sáffi that also somehow has the same translation but doesn't appear in the list of his works on the Mór Jókai page? Further, a google search for Sáffi by Mór Jókai only seems to find links to the opera, not any mention of an actual novel. It would be great if someone could clear this up. (BTW, I think this is my first post--my apologies if the formatting is wrong.) Jacobw56 (talk) 02:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears his wife Adela had connections to the author and was familiar with the work (A cigánybáró ) prior to its publication. February 1883 was when the composer was introduced to the work by his wife according the source linked below. Soon after, Strauss spoke with Mór Jókai about adapting the work for the stage, and the author connected Strauss to the librettist for his operetta who was Hungarian (Ignaz Schnitzer) in 1883. Therefore, there was no need to wait for a German translation or the initial publication in Hungarian as Strauss and his librettist were in direct contact with the author in 1883 and presumably had access to the novella prior to its publication. See this book:  I am not sure about Saffi as a work (perhaps an alternative title for the novella?) and it’s connection to the novella/operetta. I’ll dig some more tomorrow. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Update, in checking Grove it's pretty clear A cigánybáró is the correct name. I changed the article accordingly.  Frankly, the whole article could use some fact checking and better referencing. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In digging further, I think Saffi is correct. Most likely that was the working title of Jokai's story which he had not yet fully adapted into the novel but had shared out as many writers do (short stories are later adapted into novels, etc.). Strauss was working from the 1883 version of the story (not yet published), and not the novel. This was a confusing tangle. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable source material
Talk:The Immortal Hour

message: With the addition of a synopsis, (limited) references and other additional material, I propose to remove the stub classification. Objections? Wurzeller (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of synopsis

message: Amongst other edits IP 207.69.139.145 has put original research tags on this. Why? The article is in line with entries in other encyclopedias. Has IP 207.69.139.145 checked other sources? --Kleinzach 01:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research? Why?
Talk:The Land of Smiles

message: The following information is from a 33 1/3 double record album by the Robert Shaw Chorale I have in my record collection.  Its copyright is 1963 by the Record Corporation of America (RCA, now BMG).  The Franz Lehar song "Yours Is My Heart Alone" is the featured song, and the album derives its title from THAT song.  The double album also includes the choral version of Lehar's "Merry Widow Waltz," entitled "I Love You So."  The choral versions of these songs are beautiful.  Robert Russell Bennett, the Broadway arranger, did the liner notes for these songs.  In addition, separate from the Shaw choral versions, Placido Domingo, one of the "Three Tenors," also sang "Yours Is My Heart Alone," in the German, "Dein ist mein ganzes Herz," on a CD with (I think) the other two tenors.Henry45850 (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: You failed to mention the 1967 recording done in Canada with the incomparable Giuseppe di Stefano as Sou Chong and Dagmar Koller as Lisa.   An excellent recording that deserves some recognition 2001:569:FE21:B800:795A:7044:505B:A14 (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recordings
Talk:The Midsummer Marriage

message: ===online sources===
*Details of the recordings: 
*Details of composition etc 
*Details of composition, recordings, performances at Schott Music 
*oh to have item 66 on this list: "Typescript of talk by Michael Tippett at the Arnolfini, Bristol, on The Midsummer Marriage, n.d., with Tippett taking questions" 
====Concert performances====
*Proms 2013 
*Proms 1977 (same source)
*Boston concert perf 2012 
====Productions====
The Royal Opera House has mounted three productions of The Midsummer Marriage, in 1955, 1968 and 1996. The 1996 production was revived in 2005, to mark the centenary of the Tippett's birth.
In 1976 Welsh National Opera staged a production<ref> with a cast that included Felicity Lott as Jennifer and Helen Watts, who had played the role in London in 1968, and recorded it in 1970, as Sosostris. Other British productions have been put on by Opera North in 1985 and Scottish Opera in 1988.
Abroad the opera has received at least four productions. The German premiere was on 29 September 1973, at the Badisches Staatstheater Karlsruhe with Lieselotte Rebmann as Jennifer . Other productions have been at Stockholm in 1982, San Fransisco in 1983, New York in 1988,1993  and the Lyric Opera of Chicago in 2005.
Concert performances have been given at the 1977 London Proms, and in Boston in 2012.
===Paper sources===
====Books====
*Sadie, S. and Macy, L. (eds.) (2006). "Midsummer Marriage, The", pp. 410-413. The Grove Book of Operas. Oxford University Press. (This Google link gives full access to pages 410 and 412 only), but still has quire a lot of material) Voceditenore (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Performances

message: ====Books====
*Sadie, S. and Macy, L. (eds.) (2006). "Midsummer Marriage, The", pp. 410-413. The Grove Book of Operas. Oxford University Press. (This Google link gives full access to pages 410 and 412 only), but still has quire a lot of material) Voceditenore (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Paper sources

message: *Sadie, S. and Macy, L. (eds.) (2006). "Midsummer Marriage, The", pp. 410-413. The Grove Book of Operas. Oxford University Press. (This Google link gives full access to pages 410 and 412 only), but still has quire a lot of material) Voceditenore (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Books

message: The references for the performance history are, at the moment, bare, because I'm searching for better ones - I don't want to put in the effort just to have to redo straight after. almost-instinct 18:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Little note on the references
Talk:The Pilgrim's Progress (opera)

message: I have removed all the non-neutral text and started to work on the plot summary.  Any concerns?  Thanks, DJRafe 21:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me. I have removed the POV tag. -- Kleinzach 00:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality
Talk:The Transports

message: This production happened in 1979 at what was then the Lyons Concert Hall at York University. I rescored, produced and directed a one off amateur performance. I have the tapes that I am planning to digitise.
Piers Jackson 2A00:23C8:F86:EA01:5DE1:D38C:95FF:C7FE (talk) 15:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Transports - York production noted as dubious
Talk:Un re in ascolto

message: Berio's un re in ascolto in not an opera! Berio himself it is a azione musicale. Please correct it. My English is too bad for doing that ...
--84.73.135.156 (talk) 22:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opera? 

message: The article currently says that Berio wrote it. However  and  state that Calvino wrote it. I'm not sure, so will request that someone else clarify within the article. Thanks! -- Quiddity (talk) 01:37, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Librettist?
Talk:Von heute auf morgen

message: The Schoenberg article gives the year 1929; is this perhaps a publication (as op32) date?   Sparafucil 04:41, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to schoenberg.at, it was written from October 1928-August 1929... Schissel | Sound the Note! 11:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: publication?

message: Is there a more specific cite for this than to the New Grove article (to something specific Schoenberg wrote, etc.? It seems at least to contradict several other things he did write generally (and in tone though not specifically on Von heute auf morgen in particular.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 11:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "ugly, as always in..."
Talk:Samuel Rawson Gardiner

message: I think that this page is too much like a panegyric than an objective summation of this man's career. I have attempted to clean up this rather poor article, but I think that it deserves a major rewrite, especially omitting the needless 'book review' style. Qwertysocks (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled