Talk:Arab Brazilians

message: The Portuguese page shows 3 million, the French 928 000 and the English 10 Million, which one is the correct one?
Descendents per immigrant 106.58? this is absurd it is not humanly possible, obviously the numbers are inflated for unknown reasons.
If Lebanese/Syrian had huge families (15 to 20 kids), then Syria and Lebanon would be overflowing with people.
It is impossible to give an exact number, but it probably should be between 1-2 million at most.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankmv (talk • contribs) 07:06, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously they have weapons of mass reproduction, still unknown to the West... Ninguém (talk) 21:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately it seems official sources are happy pulling numbers from thin air, since official research estimates about 1m descendents but people continue quoting numbers 7, 10 or even 14 times superior. For what reason, it is hard to say, but the fact is that the impact of white immigration to Brazil is often exaggerated.201.17.93.143 (talk) 19:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "The causes for Arabs to leave their homeland were an accelerated increase in population in Lebanon and the persecution by the Ottoman Turk"
I added a  tag to this, please someone verify this sentence.
Niyeti bozuk http nesnesi (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The cause 

message: Nothing is said about the language spoken by these so-called 13 million "Arabs". Is Arabic still spoken by at least part of these, and if so how many?? Otherwise, if all these "Arabs" have shifted their language to Portuguese (as I suspect), this should also be mentioned in the article. Same question about cultural traits: what has been preserved of their Arabic origins until today? Also, are there really 13 million people who recognise themselves as Arabs in Brazil, even when some of these families were there for 2 centuries (with probably a lot of blood mix since then)? Isn't the title "Arab Brazilian" problematic on this regard? I doubt the figure of 10/13 million is accurate; yet it is used also on the page Arab, although 'being an Arab' has a different meaning when it's used in this article about Brasil, and when it's used about true Arabic-speaking populations. Womtelo 20:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those figures are complete fantasies. By no means there are ten, twelve of fifteen million "Arab Brazilians" (or "Lebanese Brazilians"). In fact, there aren't more than one million people of Arab/Syrian/Lebanese/Iraqi/Palestinian descent in Brazil. I don't know why people feel the need to inflate those numbers, but that's what happens. Ninguém (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a huge conspiracy based on "facts" and "records".Missionary (talk) 06:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The only fact here is that only some 200 thousand Arabs immigrated to Brazil. Ninguém (talk) 10:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Being an Arab in Brazil: What does it mean? 

message: In this edit, some IP adds:
:12 million http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200505/the.arabs.of.brazil.htm
Let's consider this www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200505/the.arabs.of.brazil.htm. It appears to be written by "Larry Luxner (www.luxner.com)", a free-lance journalist and publisher of the business newsletter CubaNews in Washington, D.C. But if you go to luxner.com you see that Luxner is selling photographs, not text. So there's no indication of who wrote this piece. 
Whoever wrote this piece, there's no indication of where the facts within it come from.
It appears in Saudi Aramco World, which is neither demographic nor peer-reviewed.
And although I can't claim to have read it carefully, I'm not certain that it talks of there being 12 million Arab Brazilians (whatever is meant by "Arab Brazilian").
If I am wrong, please explain how I am wrong. Unless I see convincing rational argument for the reinsertion of this factoid, I'll treat its reinsertion as disruptive. -- Hoary (talk) 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Toffik Karam's Another arabesque: Syrian-Lebanese ethnicity in neoliberal Brazil debunks this myth (pages 10-11). Ninguém (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: twelve million Arab Brazilians (or not)

message: Hello,
Shouldn't List of Lebanese people in Brazil be merged to Lebanese Brazilian, or simply deleted ?
Shouldn't Lebanese Brazilian, be merged to Arab Brazilian ?
--JackAttackFR (talk) 09:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger from [[Lebanese Brazilian]] and [[List of Lebanese people in Brazil]] 

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message: Safra was Jewish, why is he even in this list?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.101.180.143 (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out, IP 187.101.180.143. I've removed him as he was Lebanese Brazilian, but ethnically Jewish. This kind of synth is common on diasporic lists of notable people as which do not conform to being stand alone lists within the article. They are contextualised lists, and actually require intext attribution independent of the main article. It isn't the job of other editors to have to double-check every notable added, but the burden of the editor introducing new content to provide reliable sources to back up their contentions. Consequently, I have tagged the entire section for sourcing. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Edmond Safra