Talk:Velupillai Prabhakaran/Archive 1

message: I merged the relevant information from Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam according to the VfD at  Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam, where the final result was Merge and redirect to Velupillai Prabhakaran. --Deathphoenix 00:02, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam]] 

message: The Velupillai Prabhakaran article needs cleaning up and more content, while the Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam is not consistent with Wikipedia rules (NPOV) and should be deleted. There are various views of P but they should be expressed within the article, not in the name of it. Ulflarsen 10:19, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed on PP-o-T-E. that's not really necessary here. Velupillai Prabhakaran article is far too short than I'd have it be. Wonder if Soman would like to improve it, or you, for that matter. Greenleaf 09:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I may try to extend the article based on "Inside an elusive mind", guess that's about the best source for any info on him. Ulflarsen 19:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging of the two articles, Velupillai Prabhakaran and Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam

message: I did a revert back to "Greenleafs" last edit. It is already mentioned in the article that Prabhakaran is sought by Interpol, that the LTTE is banned in the US, UK and India - so it should not be necessary to elaborate on that. The latest additions of terrorist labels seems to be POV. Ulflarsen 13:59, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "a terrorist organisation .. banned as a terrorist organization in several countries" doesn't read well either. people just don't read the sentence but simply change the words they don't particularly like. :-/ Greenleaf 08:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment to revert removing terrorist organisation

message: The article as currently written is mostly a polemic against Prabhakaran.  There is very little actual biographical material here except for the paragraph about assassinating the mayor.- Tyronen 22:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not really a biography

message: Some may try to twist the fact. However, can anyone deny the fact that Praphakaran is Tamil national leader. I submit the following links as evidence.
I'm afraid most of your evidence is simply from the LTTE or LTTE backed websites, hardly indisputable evidence. Do not present the above as neutral sources. 222.155.12.62 19:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prabhakaran is Tamil's National leader. 

message: Somebody please check the grammar of the sentences in the article. A lot of improvement needs to be done to make the article match the standards of Wikipedia.
--Shashishekhar 10:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: doesn't 'Thambi' mean younger brother, not Elder Brother, as stated in the article?
:Yes! I've changed this before, but someone reverted it. I've changed it back to "younger".  I'd advise anyone inclined to revert this edit to look the word up in a dictionary, such as the University of Cologne Tamil Lexicon - you'll have to enter the word as 'tampi' to fit their transliteration scheme. -- Arvind 22:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  meaning of 'Thambi' 

message: This user has inserted "Keri" infront of Thambi. This is a taboo sinhala word. please do not use this kind of wordings in wiki. this is not the palce to do your war or show your hatrate for this person--Terrance 04:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[user:203.189.72.178]]

message: Please see diff:
Rational134
I think just a revert will do?--Realstarslayer 03:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Vandalism by Rational134 

message: In Black July there is a citation required for statement regarding his memory of 1958 anti-Tamil pogoram leaving a lasting legacy. I have read it somewhere but need the source. Thanks RaveenS 22:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Need help for citation 

message: Find the following paragraphs rather POV , specially the part about weak and babbling moderates(almost all of whom are dead courtesy of LTTE). Babbling -- how is this NPOV. I guess its ok to murder the moderates if they are weak and babbling. 
Known by many Tamils as "Thambi" (English: "Younger Brother"), Prabhakaran has allowed and promoted himself as the object of a cult of personality. The cult is built around several factors. First, he is considered as a historical emergence along the “Great Chola Emperors”. He is often described as a marvel to be born after one thousand years. Thus, he was inserted into a powerful grand narrative for the Sri Lankan Tamils.
Second, he is described as a strong and action oriented personality among the weak and “babbling” moderates. .
Prabhakaran’s contribution to deligitimization of caste within Sri Lankan Tamil society is instrumental.''
I have added edits to make this more NPOV but lot more work need to be done on such a controversial figureRuchiraw 11:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV Tag

message: The entire article as it stands is very biased against Prabhakaran.  Particularly offensive is the "Cult of personality" section, and "Prabhakaran today" contains a lot of unsourced material which frankly sounds fishy to me.  I have read the Swamy book listed in the References section; it is far from friendly to Prabhkaran, but does not go near as far as this article.  Nor does the second link which is to a pro-LTTE web site.  So what is the source of this material? Tyronen
This is very biased in favor of a wanted criminal, terrorist as recognised by the UN, USA, NATO..etc etc 222.155.12.62 19:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Still very POV

message: Whatever said and done. The days of Prabhakaran are over. Now all of a sudden he is interested in peace. I think he got the interest when he is repeatedly getting hammered by all the Kafir jets flying over his so called ealam or tamil land. And yes a small number of civilians will die too. But the figure will be much smaller than the number of innocent people LTTE killed using various methods including suicide missions. Tamils...please forget about your homeland, at least now, try and live peacefuly in the beautiful island of Sri Lanka.
:: Dear 209.79.1.253 or whatever you call yourself - this is not some Orkut/namespace/mailinglist thread which you can hijack and talk about your personal 'vengeance' against Velupillai Prabhakaran or about Tamils. This is not even a place to discuss whether he is right or wrong, but ONLY a place to post what IS right about him and what IS NOT right about him. We are not interested in emotional discussions here and also your own personal opinion about 'Kafir jets', Eelam and all the 'innocent' people!!
::To put it in your own language: "Mata oyagey rata behey, oyagey rata bohoma lassanaya - completely agreed. Matath behey, elalanatath behey.  Apiyata, oyagey country problems-ta neutral coverage ona. That's all" (Translation: I don't need your country, your country is very beautiful, agreed. I dont want it and neither does Elalan or others. All we want is neutral coverage from this issue, that's all.) 
::Neutral, meaning, letting readers taking an informed decision after citing evidence on both sides about VP. I hope this sets things right. The tags would have to stay to inform readers that they are not making an informed decision about the context. Thanks. Sudharsansn 22:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
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