Talk:U.S. presidential election, 2008/Archive 5

message: Could someone involved in removing the list of potential candidates to Talk:U.S. presidential election, 2008/Lists of potential candidates and then pruning the list of people who may be pursuing an active candidacy, put the information on those deleted from that list (such as Hilary Clinton) on the potentials list?
:Here is a pruned list of potential candidates. They should be reintroduced into the main article with citations to media articles.
:Democrats
:* Evan Bayh, U.S. senator from Indiana and former governor of Indiana. Grassroots effort.
:* Joe Biden, see active candidates above.
:* Phil Bredesen, governor of Tennessee.
:* Wesley Clark, see active candidates above.
:* Hillary Clinton, see active candidates above.
:* Mike Easley, governor of North Carolina.
:* John Edwards, see active candidates above.
:* Russ Feingold, see active candidates above.
:* Harold Ford, Jr., U.S. representative from Tennessee.
:* Al Gore, former vice president and 2000 presidential nominee, former U.S. senator and representative from Tennessee.  Unofficial website.
:* John Kerry, see active candidates above.
:* Ed Rendell, governor of Pennsylvania and former mayor of Philadelphia. Has said that he is "not really" interested in running in 2008. 
:* Bill Richardson, see active candidates above.
:* Tom Vilsack, see active candidates above.
:* Mark Warner, governor of Virginia (term limited, he will leave that office in 2006)
:Republicans
:* George Allen, U.S. senator from Virginia and former governor.
:* Jeb Bush, governor of Florida (term limited, he will leave that office in 2007) and brother of President George W. Bush. Has said he will not seek the nomination .
:* Elizabeth Dole, U.S. senator from North Carolina and chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
:* Tommy Franks, retired Army general (Texas) and former commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East until July 2003.
:* Bill Frist, see active candidates above.
:* Newt Gingrich, see active candidates above.
:* Rudy Giuliani, see active candidates above.
:* Chuck Hagel, U.S. senator from Nebraska.
:* John McCain, see active candidates above.
:* Bill Owens, governor of Colorado (term limited, he will leave that office in 2007).
:* George Pataki, see active candidates above.
:* Tim Pawlenty, governor of Minnesota, rumored as a potential candidate by ABC 
:* Colin Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State, retired U.S. Army general and former National Security Advisor and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He has said he will never run for president, or any other office (New York).
:* Condoleezza Rice, U.S. Secretary of State (California).  Rice has "ruled out" a bid in 2008 
:* Tom Ridge, first U.S. Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and former governor of Pennsylvania.
:* Mitt Romney, see active candidates above.
:* Rick Santorum, U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference (third-highest rank in Republican caucus).
: -- (unsigned contribution by 170.35.208.20 20:35, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sir, you are missing the point of the original question.  The poster of that question was looking at the descriptions of the candidates, saw that some had pointers to the active candidates list, went to the active candidates list on the main page, and found that the person in question was no longer on the active list and (thanks to the mass move to the talk subpage), the information wasn't transferred to the potentials list.  In short, she was looking for somebody to clean up the subpage.  I suspect that in the current editorial climate, people will look rather negatively upon your attempt to restore the potential candidates list. — DLJessup 21:02, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost info 

message: On 8 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion.  The result was keep.  See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/U.S. presidential election, 2008 for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 17:17, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
*I am glad this article is being kept.  The article looks great with some of the trimming of the candidates. Zscout370 18:26, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: from Vfd

message: ; Condi Rice : She publicly declared on the March 13, 2005, "Meet the Press" that she was not running. — DLJessup 20:50, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politicians who do not have an active candidacy 

message: Rather than get into an edit war with BM, I thought we should discuss it here.  I didn't add Brown to the list but he has been there for a long time without complaint.  I had never heard of him before he appeared on the list but I had never heard of Michael Badnarik before the throws of the 2004 campaign.  You cannot expect candidates for a minor third party to meet the same notability test as candidates for one of the two major parties.  If we include the Libertarian candidates at all Brown deserves to be there.  It is notable that Badarnik was only added to Wikipedia on February 4, 2004 with an article about the same size as Brown's ... it is also notbale that BM has marked the page on Brown for deletion. - Jord 22:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lance Brown 

message: I just wanted to give everyone a head's up that I am taking this page off of my watchlist and will no longer be editing it regularly.  The revert wars and apparent impossibility of reaching consensus have been killed in recent weeks.  I don't mean to sound like I am "taking my toys and going home" - though maybe that is a good description of what I am doing - but this page used to be fun and that is why I use wikipedia is for fun.  The adversarial nature of things as of late have made this a frustrating experience.  Thanks for the fun the past few months and I'll see you around on other pages I'm sure. - Jord 23:25, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  My withdraw 

message: Do you think that Geraldine Ferraro's remark about Kay Bailey Hutchison is acceptable? I believe this remark is not enough to put Hutchison on the list. I recommend to remove her. Anyone agree? --Sina 19:33, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hutchison

message: I think the list of candidates who someone has speculated might run should be removed. Does anyone actually think Al D'Amato is going to run for president? Are we being serious here? Hell, why not list James Traficant and John Rowland? Rhobite 22:53, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)
:This has already been discussed at Talk:U.S. presidential election, 2008/Archive 4.  I suggest that the anonymous posters who keep putting this list in read the lively debate we had last month before diluting the article.
:In other words, I agree with Rhobite.  So-called "potential" candidates should not be listed without sources showing that there is widespread belief in the national media that they will run and/or the candidate himself has made concrete moves towards running. --BaronLarf 23:30, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)
I agree, as you know.  I removed the list twice and the anon editor reinstated it twice calling the removal "vandalism".  I'm glad someone else agrees with me because I wasn't prepared to do it three times, at least not in a short period.    --BM 01:47, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I haven't read the old archives. Good to see that some people agree about this. Rhobite 01:58, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
I think there's actually a pretty decent consensus that the long unsourced list doesn't belong, even if we haven't been able to come to an agreement on the criteria for inclusion in a sourced candidates-who-may-be-pursuing list. RadicalSubversiv E 03:51, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The list 

message: I think that 3 is too many draft Russ Feingold links.  The other two possible canidates only ahve one link. --Benna 03:37, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russ Feingold 

message: I deleted the links to lists of the Dems and GOP contenders as that website was clearly biased to the left. Y'all need to find a neutral list of candidates.
--Justy329 04:59, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have restored the links to the Democratic Agenda's list of Democratic and Republican contenders.  I have also added on a set of additional links, at least a few of which are conservatively biased.   It's good to link to sites with a mixture of different biases.  — DLJessup 20:51, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to websites with more possible candidates 

message: George Allen (politician) might run for President too in 2008. What about the potential candidates who haven't announced a decision either way? 24.54.208.177 03:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See /Lists of potential candidates — DLJessup 04:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: George Allen

message: Governor Mark R. Warner of Virginia is definitly preparing to run;  He has been to SOuth Carolina and New Hampshire, and in February at the Democrat dinner in Richmond, with Joe Biden the featured guest, Biden repeatedly made comments like "I'm Joe Biden and I'm auditioning to be Mark Warner's vice president."
Go to:  http://www.draftmarkwarner.com/
People always do stuff like that. Don't use this site as a promotion for your website please.
Thanks,
Casey Reese 01:29, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Warner 

message: I am planning on writing an article on 2008 Draft movements and websites. If any body has any websites, it would help.
Thanks,
Casey Reese 01:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 Draft Movement Article