Talk:Joanna of Bourbon

message: This is not Joanna of Bourbon. It's Isabeau of Bavaria, her daughter-in-law, queen-consort of Charles VI, king of France. Fan2jnrc (talk) 23:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong illustration 

message: In this article it is written that his death date was 1378. However, her death also apper in the year 1377. Does someone has other references to her death date? Thanks,WhatWasDone (talk) 14:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It currently lists Her birth year as 1338, and her death year as 1278. I don't know the correct dates, so I can't fix it, however. 71.66.230.44 (talk) 09:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death date 

message: It is not in any way controversial. She was called Jeanne de Bourbon! She was Queen of France thus is the best name for her; and I hate articles with titles in them which came about by marriage. The page name of Jeanne de Bourbon existed and thus J d B, Queen of France the best option Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 21:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop doing controversial moves over and over again after being reverted! You've been to told to stop doing that several times by several administrators and users yet you persist. I will have to report you if you continue. If you can't move an article to a desired title because the page already exists, you are supposed to request a move instead of inventing a name similar to the one you consider best. And she was not called Jeanne de Bourbon in her own lifetime, for her name was then spelled Jehanne. It is your responsibility to cite reliable English language sources because you are the one who is trying to change status quo. Surtsicna (talk) 11:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well to be fair she should not even be called Joanna of Bourbon anyway. When on earth do you hear of this?! It actually makes my blood boil when I see of Bourbon as a name it just looks odd and is misleading. Jeanne de Bourbon, Queen of France as a title is fine methinks. Why is this sooo difficult?! Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 12:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: She is the best known Joanna/Joan/Jeanne/Jehanne/Ioanna of/de Bourbon that ever existed. She is the primary usage. Surtsicna (talk) 12:47, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Not a silly question, but a good question. Joanna is the Latin form of the name, and Latin was the universal language of learning in the European Middle Ages in which medieval histories were first written. It became conventional in English to cite medieval European names in Latin, no matter what country they were from (they made an exception for England, though, and used English names for English people, e.g. Joan). This is an older practice and maybe now it's being superseded in scholarly writing by using modern local forms like Jeanne. But I think Latin is still legit in medieval names, as the Latin names were their official written forms during those medieval people's lifetimes. A followup question would be: Why do they use modern names like Jeanne when, as pointed out above, the lady herself would have been named Jehanne in medieval French? Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 08:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  name