Talk:Domestic violence in Russia

message: I remember reading in the St Petersburg Times around 2001, that each year in Russia 14,000 women are killed by family members. Anybody got the exact statistics?Malick78 07:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With 14,570 murders total in Russia, that sounds slight exaggerated. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 17:45, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: Instead of writing some sourced material on a TRUE problem this article gathers some feminist blabber and combines it with some Western rumors. The result can only be described as "total BS". Get statistics, stop manipulating fact, write an article not a propaganda blurb. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 17:46, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This whole article is a joke 

message: Since the bill in January 2017 a lot of attention was paid to this.  The early sources need work and a whole section on the July 2016 restriction bill then the backlash in 2017 January.  These laws have been attempted for 20 years with many incarnations.
*Russian Federation: Too Little: Too Late: State Response to Violence Against Women - 1997 report from Human Rights Watch with 252 separate sources cited. Great base for history of article.
*Project Muse has a long list of references here - 1996-2008
*has a reprint of sources that were used to create much of one paragraph.  Need to refind those sources and likely are found in the Project Muse list above 2003
*Russia Moves to Soften Domestic Violence Law - New York Times 2017
*How Russia Decided to Allow a Little Domestic Violence - Bloomberg 2017
*Russian Women Struggle to Survive Domestic Violence - Women News 2005
*Russia set to decriminalise some forms of domestic violence - Belfast Telegraph 2017
*Differences in female and male involvement in lethal violence in Russia - 2010 study  also covers violence in domestic disputes.
*Russia should not decriminalise wife-beating Economist give some background on how the January 2017 law evolved.
* VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IN RUSSIA - 1990's Human Rights Watch coverage with sources.
*Interpersonal Violence and Alcohol in the Russian Federation Policy briefing - WHO 2006 (might already be in use)
*Victims of domestic violence face uphill battle for protection in Russia - Reuters 2013 coverage.
*Domestic Violence A Silent Crisis In Russia - 2008 coverage from NPR
*Justice for Russian Women? Russia Begins to Face Its Domestic Violence Problem - 2014 Human Rights brief
*Breaking the taboo: the Moscow women taking a stand against domestic violence - 2015 Guardian article
*Gruesome Family Killing Highlights Russian Domestic Abuse Problem - Moscow Times 2015 article
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*Lastly, see the Yelena Mizulina article for more sources as she proposed the January 2017 bill in the Duma. Alatari (talk) 00:08, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of sources 

message: Removed the sentence: "In 2013, the BBC reported information from a Russian interior ministry that 600,000 women were physically or verbally abused at home and 14,000 of them died that year from injuries inflicted by their partner" .
That is obviously untrue. 14,000 equals to all homicides in Russia a year. Of which some 3,000 are female wictims. See eg. Homicide Victims by Gender and Country. It could be 1,400 or something else. 600,000 verbally insulted women per year is credible, but better source is needed for the death toll. --J. Sketter (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Reuters also reports 10,000 to 14,000 deaths of women per year estimate.  You are looking at homicides and not all deaths will be considered homicides or even investigated.  I'm restoring the source with another to back it.  Alatari (talk) 13:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

text: There are now 3 sources with over 10,000 per year.  You will need to cite a counter source explaining the death discrepency between reported homicides and total deaths of women from injuries. Alatari (talk) 14:04, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Those sources refer to the numbers of feminist "Center ANNA" (financed by western funds). Official statistics given by Ministry of Internal Affairs claim that total number of victims of domestic violence in 2015 - 1060 people (of both sexes and all ages). Data of 14 000 women, dying from the hands of their husbands and partners every year - is absolute nonsense. Total number of violent deaths in Russia (excluding suicides) less than 10 000 per year (both men and women). 94.180.88.49 (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

text: OK, I stand corrected in that at least in mid-2000's that was given as an official figure. When the same exact number is given still in 2013, with vague ref to "official information" it gives an unavoidable impression of blind circulating of old numbers. But, someone else can dig up more clarification for the current situation. --J. Sketter (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC numbers 

message: Okay, I added a dozen new up to date sources, removed some obvious wester number-cracking, and added a lot of new info. Please be nuanced and if you want to correct something find a better source. Also would appreciate help with formatting. F.Alexsandr (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major overhaul 

message: In February 2017, with the support of the Russian Orthodox Church, Russia decriminalized domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" (such as broken bones or a concussion)[38] and does not happen more than once a year.[39] As a result, domestic violence increased[40][41] while reporting declined sharply, and police began to refuse to investigate domestic violence cases.[4]
It's a "damaged phone". To be clear, Criminal Code of Russian Federation and other laws don't use the term domestic violence at all. The thing that was decriminalized is literally called побои в отношении близких лиц (battery against relatives). Both street and domestic violence against relatives are decriminalized. Also, I think it should be added that it didn't become legal.--Reprarina (talk) 08:09, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decriminalization