Talk:Abu Yahya al-Libi

message: *I dunno if Abu Yahia al-Libi and Hasan Qayad are the same individual, or, if they are which name should be the main name of the merged article.  Geo Swan (talk) 22:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: Al Libi was (assuming the june 4th 2012 drone killed him) a Libyan with black skinned ancestors, the only one from Africa to rise to Al Qaeda's top rank. His political outlook was that under Islam, all people (at least all men) are equal, and that feudalism and racial prejudgement is therefore at odds with Islam. Which made him a top ace in attracting people from disenfranchised communities, like black people in northern Africa, and low cast people in the highly feudal regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan. For that reason, (contrary to Bin Laden) he also favored Somalia's Al Shabaab, who are the only Somali militia who have significant numbers of Bantu-Africans in their ranks, and even in their leadership.
Al Qaeda faces as a political problem, that from their Saudi roots they have inherited this Salafist anti racial and anti  feudal, leftist egalitarian outlook. Which works as a strong recruiting tool to underprivileged people, but which also lands them trouble with the conservative leaders of potential allies (often from high ranking feudal families) in anti government militia like Taliban, MNLA Tuaregs in Mali and the tribal militia's in Libya and Yemen.
The death of Al Libya (if true) might make Al Qaeda's relations with the Taliban easier, who planned to throw them out of Afghanistan as soon as US had fully withdrawn, precisely because under Al Libi, they uprooted the social system, recruiting over ethnic cleavages from low cast Taliban 'subjects'. (And because Al Qaeda tends to attract drones.)
Can this info be somehow useful to help give some political color to Al Libi? (I know, very little sources apart from weird stuff on extremist websites in Arabic, Somali and Pashtu)Pieter Felix Smit (talk) 05:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  al-Libi was / is the only black skinned leader of Al Qaeda, and has / had an egalitarian political view.. 

message: Abu Yahya al-Libi is basically the same name as (Abu) Yunis al Sahrawi, with Sahrawi being a more precise reference to where he came from: southern (black majority) Libya. These are self chosen names, while before adopting Saudi style Islam, likely his given name was Hassan Qayad al-Far. Often, Muslims, especially from north Africa, joining a Salafist fighting group, take up a new name, rejecting the often feudal Malikite system in which their previous name was given. Reason: the naming system in tribal North-African society ties you to a family and a (sub)clan, obliging you to hold tribal and family loyalty above everything else. Often , black people are given names not after their biological parents, but after the (former) owners of their parents. Rejecting this system is core business for Salafist Islam, more so for someone from southern Libya.Pieter Felix Smit (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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message: The terminology on this article "Islamist terrorist" may be excluded as there is no such thing exists. A terrorist is terrorist, regardless of a religion.
39.41.225.15 (talk) 13:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A horse is a horse, regardless of colour, but it does not follow that no such thing as a brown horse exists. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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