Talk:Baháʼí Faith/Archive 2

message: The beginning section of this article says more than once that Baha'i is an "independent" religion.  What does that mean?  Also it says "according to some" it is the newest such religion.  Who are those "some"? IbnRushd 04:44, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Talk:Bah%E1%27%ED_Faith#Independent_religions - --Cyprus2k1 08:18, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent religion 

message: Is the Esperanto article's practice of direct incorporation of the remote images O.K. w.r.t. the copyrights and the Wikipedia policies? BACbKA 21:31, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  eo: article images use 

message: This article does indeed look like an advertisement pamphlet in some places. I think that giving factual evidence for all that praise would surely help. One example: "Bahá'ís have also become increasingly involved in projects of social and economic development around the world." is absolutely not factual. It's just a statement that is quite biased. Is this a claim of some Bahai guy or is it a fact? And if it's a fact, you need to qualify it by saying "Bahais spent 10 zillions of dollars building hydroelectric plants in poor countries" or "Bahais printed 10 trillions of copies of multiplication tables and gave them to poor children", stuff like that. :) Any evidence that Bahais are in fact involved, preferably with some references.
I would not dive in editing this article, because my knowledge of Bahai religion is limited, so I could only go through the text and delete all such unstubstantiated claims. It would be better if someone more familiar with the subject would try to locate some facts and references first. Paranoid 14:18, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Be more specific 

message: 204.50.168.164 says he eliminated some unnecessary and very marginal information.  Most of the information he removed regards the very small (tiny) division in the Faith and other negative attitudes towards the Baha'i Faith.  Even though I'm a Baha'i and don't believe those negative viewpoints, I see them as necessary in the article to keep a NPOV.  Thus in the spirit of being impartial I am reverting them.  --Navidazizi 15:18, 06 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes made by 204.50.168.164

message: I'd like to put this article on the main page, but I'd prefer someone add a copyleft (Creative common or GFDL licensed) picture first. →Raul654 22:47, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)
:There is a picture on the German Wikipedia article that is under the GFDL , how about using that. NavidAzizi 16:50, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
:Another picture is the one on the page for the Bab  which is released into public domain.  It's of the Shrine of the Bab in the Baha'i world centre in Haifa, Israel NavidAzizi 19:01, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks! Both look good to me. When I get home from vacation next week, I'll add one or both to the article (unless someone beats me to it) and then schedule it for the main page. →Raul654 01:53, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
::: Finnaly i found where i got the photo and its copyright status (when i uploaded it i was still a wikipedia newbie), its from the Bahai World News Website, and the copyright status of the photos can be found here: 
::: citing:
::: "All stories and photographs produced by the Bahá'í World News Service may be freely reprinted, re-emailed, re-posted to the World Wide Web and otherwise reproduced by any individual or organization, subject to the following restrictions:
:::   1. They must at all times be attributed to the Bahá'í World News Service.
:::   2. Photographs and stories cannot be used in any way (including, without limitation, suggesting an association with or endorsement of any product, service, opinion or cause) which conflicts with the intent and premise of the original source.
:::   3. Photographs may be edited for size only. Captions must remain with the photographs at all times.
:::   4. The Bahá'í World News Service will not be responsible to any person or organization for any liability for any direct, incidental, consequential, indirect, or punitive damages that may result from any access to or use of the stories and/or photographs on our site.
:::   5. Although this blanket permission to reproduce BWNS stories is given freely such that no special permission is required, the Bahá'í World News Service retains full copyright protection for its stories and photographs under all applicable national and international laws. "
::: so, the current photo is finne i guess :)
::: 
::: p.s im currently very busy (exams, exams) , will be back on tuesday! - --Cyprus2k1 08:31, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture request