Template talk:R from related word

message: In a recent efit, User:Instantnood added this template to the redirect Rail gauges and power supply of Hong Kong rails . Which leads me to wonder if this template is applied to the most ridiculous cases. What exactly will the intent of this category or template be, if anything practically long enough to be a sentence still appears here? A look at :Category:Redirects from related words shows up a lot more dubious entries. Is this what the template/category is really for?--Huaiwei 11:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Words or phrases?

message: Please change 'alternate' to 'alternative'. It is currently incorrect grammar and should be 'alternative' like is used in every other redirect template. McLerristarr / Mclay1 15:26, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   17:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: had to revert your good faith retargeting to  because that rcat can only be used in mainspace. This rcat, the  template, can be used in any namespace, so your edit threw a whole lot of redirects into .  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  14:54, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  R-related redirect 

message: :Template:R from related word →  – "Word" is too narrow; this template (or one of many redirects to it) is used on a massive number of multi-word redirects (I wouldn't be surprised if they actually accounted for a majority of the redirects using this template).  "Term" is broad enough to include both multi-word and single-word terms, by definition.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:55, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 November 2019 

message: Remove the Requested move template from the top. Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 16:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done DannyS712 (talk) 16:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 16 December 2019 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Template:R from verb tense. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 4#Template:R from verb tense until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Sangdeboeuf (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Template:R from verb tense" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved. , and this should be the main concern when renaming templates.   No such user (talk) 12:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:R from related word →  – "Word" does not capture that this rcat applies also to related phrases, so "term" is a much better descriptor. The proposed move target currently redirects to Template:R from related topic, but "term" refers to a word or phrase, not necessarily a topic, and could serve as a better differentiation between the similar rcats ("topic" for words or phrases that could be separate articles, "term" for words or phrases unlikely to warrant separate treatment and are not alternative names). The previous requested move above was withdrawn due to fear of miscategorization of redirects, but many redirects are already improperly categorized as  which would be fixed by this move. In any case, the affected redirects have been boldly retargeted between the two several times over the years apparently without any issue. This move will improve categorization of redirects going forward. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:34, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I argue, admittedly without direct evidence, that many (perhaps even a majority) of those ~7500 uses of this redirect occur on redirect pages that should really be categorized as  rather than ; as I said above these would be fixed via this move. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Perplexing. You want to rename  to , the latter of which redirects to , an entirely different redirect category template. I can confirm after more than 10 years of working with these templates and redirects that the vast majority of backlinks (if not all of them) from the R from related term rcat template are not to related words but to related topics, and all of those would have to be updated if this request is granted. Virtually none of them would be automatically fixed by this move, which would break virtually all of them. Why not read the previous move request above and the section above that. I'm hopeful that info might persuade you to withdraw this request. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 09:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

text: Mdewman6, your response above (00:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 May 2021 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Template:R from related concept. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 12#Template:R from related concept until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.   -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 20:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Template:R from related concept" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The template still includes the notice about a move discussion, even though it ended on 14 July. Kleinpecan (talk) 16:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI . * Pppery * it has begun... 19:25, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated move discussion notice 

message: The redirect Template:Redirect to related has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  1234qwer1234qwer4 16:47, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Template:Redirect to related]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]