Talk:Friedrich Ludwig Jahn

message: This is a complete, unreflected appraisal of the man who, among other things, iniated the first book burning in modern German speaking countries. See the German article for more details and ugly stuff that must be mentioned. --84.137.53.148 00:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: There he read from his Deutsches Volkstum which he published in 1810. This is a work replete with racial intolerance and Darwinists assertions.
In just one illustration in Deutsches Volkstum Jahn stated: ‘The purer a nation is the better; the more mixed it is the worse
This quotes demonstrate the ideology Jahn pushed forward.
--Molobo 22:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fascist Body As Political Icon--Global Fascism edited by J. A. Mangan   

message: Jahn wrote that hatred of everything foreign was the German's duty
It's clear that this current version of the  article presents a very biased view of this person and should be re-written.
--Molobo 23:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This link doesn't work. That aside it looks like there is some merit in your argument and it might be useful to contribute by expanding the "Critical Views" section in order to create a more balanced, better informed article. Wiggy! 12:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  An example of Friedrich Ludwig Jahn's views, he wrote that :"hatred of everything foreign was the German's duty" 

message: :Molobo is an expert on anti-isms, especially its practical appliance, as shown in his contribs to Wikipedia. --Matthead 23:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-German POV 

message: I was hoping to find a better article on Turnverein.  New Ulm, Minnesota was founded by exiles from that movement who left Germany after government crackdowns.  It was, for example, also an atheist movement I am told.  In any case, there is almost no information about it in this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.56.207 (talk) 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turnverein 

message: Right now the Criticism section is bigger than the description of his life. The critique is largely unreferenced, and the article fails to put his views into perspective, i.e. time and place. And the main reason for his degree of popularity is barely mentioned anyway. Karasek (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balanced article? 

message: The links to pictures of the monument in Forest Park, St. Louis, MO from Facebook are broken
--Statprof (talk) 11:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Links 

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message: Here reduced to one phrase, rationalised later. The rationalisation, quite rational, has been probably copied from German Wikipedia, unsourced. Xx236 (talk) 07:47, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that his antisemitism (indeed, his denunciation of all "non-Volkisch" influences) is somewhat underplayed.  I don't agree that it is "rationalised", at least by WP.  The "Criticism" section is straight-forward in calling this out.  What do you suggest we add? -- Elphion (talk) 18:17, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean "At the time Jahn wrote this, the German states were occupied by foreign armies under the leadership of Napoleon." Unsourced. There was no "Germany" at that time, some German lands were allies of Napoleon, Hannover?Xx236 (talk) 07:25, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Perhaps "Prussia and some other German states".Xx236 (talk) 07:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

text: The German article says that the phrase "Poles, French, priests, aristocrats and Jews are Germany's misfortune." has been written by his biographer. Jahn has written a similar one in his letter.Xx236 (talk) 07:55, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Referenced Bauer is not an expert in Jahn's works. Xx236 (talk) 07:59, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jahn's antisemitism