Talk:List of social networking services/Archive 2

message: Does anybody mind if I do cleanup based on the notable criteria set out?  I'm not good enough to write my own articles yet from the looks of it, but I wouldn't mind looking after this one.  I've noticed more spam sliding in with nothing really to set these sites out.  My current edits are in the diff.  Mbhmirc 20:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's great that you want to take an interest in the maintainance of this article. It is certainly prone to spam, and you were absolutely right to remove MyCyberScene. I've reverted your removal of Downelink, however. Any social networking site which has an article on Wikipedia is considered sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in this link. If you think the notability of Downelink is questionable (with reference to our inclusion guidelines at WP:WEB) then that article should be nominated for deletion (see WP:AFD). If deleted, it can then be removed from this list. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 21:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not particularly convinced with Downelinks notability however, and was tempted to nominate for deletion. Haven't got the time to check for references to it in the media at the moment, though. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 22:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: AFAIK it's the only gay only community website i know of.  Other than that I can only find blog entries and refrences to a party they had for one year of running. Mbhmirc 15:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup 

message: From "Ultimate List of Social Networks":
* Joga
* Xianz
Both of these are new but will probably become notable soon. Others:
* Piczo - A GeoCities clone laid out like a social networking site
* Dogster - absolutely nn
* Ryze - 250,000 members. somewhat borderline nevermind: Ryze
* Mooble - Launched a few weeks ago. Personally, I hope to God this doesn't become notable.
* Zorpia - no usercount
Ashibaka tock 14:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reiterate that Piczo has no "social networking" functions, it's just a free webhost. Ashibaka tock 02:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pending addition

message: We need references for user counts. Shawnc 17:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of them are sourced in the article or on the website, should I give a reference anyway? Ashibaka tock 18:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, remarkably few of the user counts are cited in the articles and it's definitely something which would add encyclopedic value. I've added a few refs... └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 19:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed 

message: Sites in here: :Category:Online dating should be added. I can't help now - suffering from wiki-related RSI. 
Some sites are pay, some free. Where can we put this info? What format? E.g. all free unless marked (pay) in last column? 
btw, this page shows a lot of work has been put in - well done to all.
btw2, I know Wikipedia is not a web directory... but is there a good web directory of social networking websites? --Singkong2005 04:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, I disagree, "online dating websites" are not necessarily social networking websites (or are they? correct me if I'm wrong). Regarding payment, I would have thought it should be specified in the "registration" (last) column. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 19:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have thought that dating is social networking, albeit a specific type... still, having them separate is not a bad idea. But certainly they're related, so I've added See also section, with "Online dating category - articles on a number of dating sites." --Singkong2005 04:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dating sites

message: For the benefit of anyone interested, I have started an AfD for People Fisher at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People Fisher, and ed Campus Beaver, GROU.PS and Ryze. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 20:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ZEBO is also up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ZEBO following de-ing. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 16:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: For anyone interested, Microsoft's Wallop (which interestingly was officially announced to be launched as a spin-off company from Microsoft Research today) has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wallop (not by me, I've voted strongly to keep). └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 11:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletions

message: Shouldn't Multiply be added to the list? I'm not experienced enough at editing to add it myself though. --Alli4000 03:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Friend Circles and Ringo should be on the list too. - Nick C 14:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Multiply links to the mathematical concept. Is there an article on the social networking site? If so, please link to the article. If not, please create such an article. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 07:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiply

message: Would you mind adding www.mailfriends.com, 13,000 members but all old members are deleted if they have not logged in for a period of two months so these are active members not just dead profiles, this is one of the oldest social sites on the web.
:Find sources Ashibaka tock 22:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mailfriends

message: Due to this edit I think bolt.com should be blacklisted from this page. It's hardly notable anyway. Please remove it if you see it. Ashibaka tock 22:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For another view, see User talk:Kharri04. She seems to have a case for notability, and a WP article backing up the listing. WP:AGF or WP:SPAM? I dunno. · rodii · 02:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bolt.com

message: deviantart is also an online community not only for artists but for friends as well
i think it should be included in the list  05:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it allow you to list your friends? Ashibaka tock 06:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. And I agree that DA should probably be included. DiamonDie 08:23, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  deviantART 

message: orkut tells me:
You are connected to 22,655,984 people through 1 friends.  68.112.216.67 18:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  orkut users 

message: Perhaps we should rename this to "List of notable social networking websites" since that's what it really is. Czj 17:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely this would apply to every "List of" article on Wikipedia? I'd say it goes without saying. Mdwh 18:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could go either way. Perhaps what is needed is a clear description of what notability means for this list, since people seem to have trouble with the concept. · rodii · 18:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we've been working on the consensus that it needs to satisfy the same requirements of notability as needing an article (see Wikipedia:Notability_(web)) - which, in practice, means requiring that an entry actually has a Wikipedia article. This is already explained in the main article (as a comment), I don't think spammers are going to pay attention. Mdwh 18:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that those are the guidelines (I wrote that comment, I think). And I agree about spammers. I wonder if making the criteria more obvious might help, though. · rodii · 19:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename? 

message: Please add this article to your watchlist... it's a great list, but spam entries are frequently injected into it.  If we band together to watch for this sort of thing, the article should stay nice and clean. 63.70.164.200 21:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watchlist 

message: Does Orkut display the number of users connected once you are logged in?  The stat given is from March, so the number is probably greater by now. Czj 20:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Today it tells me I'm connected to 24,359,314 people. Ashibaka tock 00:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orkut 

message: Does anyone think YouTube.com is also a social site?----Always Gotta Keep It Real, Cute 1 4 u 02:44, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: YouTube

message: Does anyone here think Zaadz is a valid social networking site? I know it is. I've added it a couple of times and have even included citations from third-party reviewers. But a certain user, named AcePuppy, kept deleting it. I've engaged AcePuppy in a discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AcePuppy), but I'm not getting a satisfactory reply. I don't want to play the "tag, you're it" game. So I'm elevating this discussion where more people can see this so that we can have a better consensus.  -- coolmel 02:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zaadz