Template talk:WikiProject Korea

message: Concerns raised by RandomCritic are valid; the transclusion of the to-do list is resulting in thousands of links to any articles that are on that list. I've gone one step further and removed the whole of the template's hidden section. Ultimately the template only needs to link to the Project, not every page within the Project. PC78 (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of drop down section 

message: I've updated the template to incorportate the FL and List classes which are now part of the Wikipedia assessment scheme. Also, I have combined the Tool, Category & Project classes into NA class, as they all relate to non article pages that are not part of the assessment. Other changes include switching the assessment colours to the Wikipedia standard used elsewhere, removing some dead code and fixing some categorization issues. Please report any bugs if it looks like I've screwed up anywhere! PC78 (talk) 11:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job! I wondered why FA mark of Korean project did not have the star and you fix it. --Appletrees (talk) 12:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: I suggest that unnamed parameters are generally a bad idea and might cause problems in the future. I've put a tracking category (:Category:WikiProject Korea articles using unnamed parameters) on the sandbox so that, if implemented, these can be found and converted. Martin 18:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unnamed parameters

message: Shall we request its implementation? Martin 22:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I must have missed this comment. Sandboxed template looks good to me, and no-one commented one way or another about this at WT:KOREA. I think we're ready to make the switch. PC78 (talk) 23:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Happy‑melon 18:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: So what about it?

message: Please update with the code in . This is really just a minor edit to add a custom icon for the portal link and to update a few task force icons. PC78 (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: . — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Did you mean to remove the nested parameters? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. They didn't seem to work for those in the hook anyway (no such parameters are documented at Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces). PC78 (talk) 09:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, I know. You have to use the tfnested hook for these. It's a bit of a pain having to use two separate hooks, but necessary. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's OK, I think we're better off without them. It just adds unnecessary clutter, IMHO. PC78 (talk) 19:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

text: All . — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: The code for the collapsed section hook has recently been enhanced. One benefit is that the text can be made to line up with the rest of the banner (which I have now done). Another benefit is the ability to selectively collapse the section depending on how many rows are displayed. It is rarely useful to collapse one row, because the header of the section takes up the same amount of space and so information is hidden without any space saving. On the sandbox is an implementation whereby 2 rows or more are collapsed but 1 row isn't. See the /testcases for some examples. Please let me know what you think. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks OK. :) PC78 (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapsed section 

message: Some of clip images being used for the template are not "Korean", so I tried to replace with others, but the template is locked. Could you replace the clip for the architecture section with either of these images? :File:Korean architecture clip-01.png
:File:Korean architecture clip-02.png These are not ideal, but having the false clip image is worse than the small clips from pictures. I will get back for the cuisine image as well (such as bibimbap image would be better.--Caspian blue 23:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: File:Korean cuisine-Bibimbap clip-01.png I think this would be sufficient for the cuisine parameter for a while until somebody would be willing to draw architecture and food SVG files.--Caspian blue 23:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Done. Nick-D (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this is an improvement. The previous icons were recognisable as architecture and food, whereas the new images are not. PC78 (talk) 10:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are NOT Korean. That is the key point for the replacement. I said to Nick-D that the images are "temporary" things until better images comes up. And the images size could be adjusted since the size is opted for the previous clips.Caspian blue--12:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how you could reasonably say that the gimbap icon does not represent gimbap. You may have a point abouth the architecture icon, but do you think it does not accurately represent Korean architecture, or are you just looking at the filename? PC78 (talk) 12:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at any surveys regarding Korean cuisine, gimbap, a Koreanaizied popular snack does not take a higher rank to represent Korean food unlike bibimbap, Bulgogi, or Galbi. You know my editing area is mainly Korean cuisine. Moreover, there is no such building like Japanese Osaka Castle in Korea. If you argue that Hwaseong Fortress is not much different from the castle, well, I would be surprised. The clips are not just a matter of file names. I will search editors willing to create a better clips with a SVG program.--Caspian blue 12:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Sure, but the gimbap icon was recognisable at such a small size, whereas the bimimbap photo is not. Regarding architecture, how about :File:Japan-company-stub-twin21.svg which should be generic enough to represent modern Korean architecture? PC78 (talk) 12:58, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're forgetting that the image sizes are opted for the previous files, so if the sizes of the new clips are adjusted like the Art group clip that uses a just photo, I don't think what would be a big deal until we find nicer clips. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the dull image of modern building that can be found everywhere in the world.--Caspian blue 13:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not forgetting anything: these images are supposed to be small. What I'm saying with the building image is that it would be suitable to use here. These images don't need to be specifically Korean (most of them aren't anyway) so long as they are not un-Korean. PC78 (talk) 14:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not every image have same width and height, so "setting the size "small" does not mean that every images are in a good shape with a fixed size. I don't see why the unattractive and unrecognizable building image should be preferred to that Korean clip.--Caspian blue 14:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The image you chose is not recognisable either. All I can make out are the three taeguk symbols, it doesn't obviously represent architecture. Something like this  would be better. PC78 (talk) 15:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the Geunjeongjeon hall of the Gyeongbokgung palace image.--Caspian blue 15:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you suggesting another alternative? PC78 (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you're asking. I like your suggested image that is recognizable in the small size and of Korean style, so that could be replaced with the gate image with taegeuk. The two clips that I made an admin replace are just for a temporary period until we find nicer images, and you found the nicer one. -Caspian blue 16:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My mistake, I misread your comment. PC78 (talk) 17:20, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for replacement 

message: Can someone please remove the following line:
 |auto=
The "auto" parameter is unused and there are no plans by the project to use it anytime soon. Thanks in advance. PC78 (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove auto parameter 

message: Please sync this template with the code at Template:WikiProject Korea/sandbox. This will implement Category-Class and Template-Class in the banner, which are now needed to filter out the majority of pages in . PC78 (talk) 11:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:32, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class mask 

message: Please make changes that I've made from the sandbox myself. I've also set the QUALITY_SCALE from inline to subpage to enable class mask, including the new FM-Class which is not used by the project. Thank for your time. Regards, JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 07:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please could you link to the discussion where Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea decided to start using FM-class. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Those two categories were created by JJ98, without any discussion with the WikiProject (see thread above), so I don't think they have ever been used. I've tagged them with . — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I see. I'll drop a note over at the WikiProject and see if there's any support in using these categories. — ξxplicit 20:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class subpage 

message: The category  exists and it seems this WikiProject uses it, but all files being tagged with the WikiProject banner are sent to . Any chance we can get this thing activated? Same thing seems to apply to . — ξxplicit 19:45, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Those two categories were created by JJ98, without any discussion with the WikiProject (see thread above), so I don't think they have ever been used. I've tagged them with . — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I see. I'll drop a note over at the WikiProject and see if there's any support in using these categories. — ξxplicit 20:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:File-Class Korea-related articles 

message: Can somebody add the parameter, image-needed, to the template so it can be easier to find articles that need photos? Also, if anybody can, could that person create a category where articles will be added to. Thank you and appreciate it. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 21:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind with the image needed. We need a sports working group or changed Baseball to Sports. I came upon a Korean handball player. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 02:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parameter request 

message: I'd like to request that the change I made on the sandbox (diff) be implemented, i.e. adding a new working group to the template. Since the maximum number of working groups allowed by the WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces template (10) has been reached, I added it using the main banner template's own functionality, so it shows up at the top -- hopefully this doesn't make it seem like I'm trying to make the new working group look more important. The edit should be uncontroversial. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 12:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you use up all ten hooks in a , just add another  immediately afterwards, so that the closing }} of the first is followed directly by the opening {{ of the second. See  for one with seven instances of  - admittedly, only one of them has all ten used up, but there is no requirement to use all ten before starting the next. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:17, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that makes more sense. I'll do that, then reopen this request. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 00:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Done very slightly differently: I've removed one linebreak (because two  are normally butted up together), and inserted another (for consistency with the other hooks). --Redrose64 (talk) 12:49, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New working group 

message: I'm slowly editing the English pages of the lower tiers of Korean football and would like to include it into the project, but I see there is not work group for it. Would it be possible to add it to the template. (I'm new to editing and and still learning what can be done, so apologies if I go about this in the wrong way.)
OttoSilver (talk) 05:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think we need a sports working group instead like I suggested in 2011. That way, other contributors won't have to request a working group for other sports like golf, speed-skating, ice-skating and etc. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 15:58, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to add a new work group: Football 

message: Can we add the Template:Korea current date after the "This template..." part like in Template:WikiProject Korea/sandbox? ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 01:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time and date in Korea 

message: Replace
 
|PORTAL_IMG              = Samtaeguk Icon.svg
...
  |TF_5_LINK             = Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Korean cinema task force
to
|MAIN_CAT                = WikiProject Korea articles
...
  |TF_5_LINK             = Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Korean cinema task force
Sawol (talk) 07:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: In addition to moving working groups you're asking for the portal image to be removed. I don't see any discussion for that. In the meantime the taskforce links have been fixed by repairing the redirects rather than altering the template. Bazj (talk) 12:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your consideration. I withdraw the request for two working groups South Korean geography and politics. I request two parameters |PORTAL_IMG= and |TF_5_LINK=. There is a reason for this. The parameter |PORTAL_IMG= doesn't exist in . The image doesn't work. And see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 33#Project name for Wikipedia:WikiProject Film. Sawol (talk) 01:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: These two changes seem uncontroversial.  Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:13, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working groups links 

message: Add
 
|MAIN_CAT                = WikiProject Korea articles
between
|PORTAL                  = 
|MAIN_CAT                = WikiProject Korea articles
|note 1=
to use :Category:WikiProject Korea articles. It is general. Sawol (talk) 04:30, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ruslik_Zero 20:28, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAIN_CAT 

message: Any chance of this template supporting a Redirect class for redirects? Now having class=redirect makes the article talk page end up in :Category:WikiProject Korea banners with incorrect coding. The category is currently empty because I periodically "fix" pages there to NA-class, which seems pointless. People seem to use class=redirect no matter what the instructions say. A Draft-class would also be nice to find good Korea-related drafts before they go stale and get deleted. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 00:52, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirects should automatically end up in NA-class these days even without a class parameter (proof). I've removed that from the error tracking category to save you having to "fix" them. Adding redirect and draft classes are also an option, but you should probably discuss that with the project first. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional classes 

message: I've suggested an update to the banner's main image and adding support for Draft-Class over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea#Changes to project banner. Please place any comments there. Thanks! PC78 (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please update this template with the sandboxed version at . No objections raised on the WikiProject page. PC78 (talk) 20:28, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: Have just added TE to your userrights as you obviously qualify. Would you like to make the change yourself? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:50, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you very much Martin. :) PC78 (talk) 23:41, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed changes 

message: I noticed that there is a working group for films, but not television. Can television be added as a working group parameters or does it have to fall under popular culture working group? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CherryPie94 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there is no television working group, this would necessarily fall under pop culture. PC78 (talk) 20:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Television to working group parameters 

message: As has been expected for a while, Portal:Korea has been deleted at MfD. Currently the banner has no portal link, but in the sandbox I have created a version with links to both Portal:North Korea and Portal:South Korea:
I don't know if this is better or not, but it's there if there is concensus to make a change. PC78 (talk) 20:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal 

message: ← Does the popular culture task force have a wider scope enough for a replacement of the CD icon? I ask this because this icon solely covers one scope, which is music. Korean popular culture is more than just music, it also includes acting (keep in mind that cinema has its own task force), television, sports (yes, Esports count), corporations (chaebols), fashion and beauty. Please see the section about using icons beyond their legitimate scope on the MoS, and contest whether if this applies to the usage of icons.
 
I'm also suggesting two options for the force: 
*if the photo is ready for a successor, the proposed image would have to be depicting an icon that is a bit more ambiguous while still staying true to pop culture as a whole (here are some suggestions on bases, , , , (, , remixing them both, perhaps?)); 
*or, the worst-case scenario, split the task force up into newer ones,
:*
 ↓ This line of code (the current one as of 22 February 2021) below belongs to the "tf 5" parameter. ↓   |TF_5_IMAGE            = Korean music Icon.svg—beetricks ~ talk · email 20:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  This popular culture task force and its icon