Template talk:Wines/Archive 1

message: I would prefer to have one template for wine (versus separate templates for varietals, regionals and styles).  A single template would allow people to navigate among various wines, whether they happen to be on a page for a varietal or a regional or a style.  Here is a quick mockup of what I am imagining.  The title for the template could be something like "Major Wine Types" or just simply "Wines."  If implemented, the table would need to be formatted consistent with WP templates.  This is just a quick rough draft.  I may have mis-categorized a few, but this should give the basic idea.  Any thoughts? --Mikebrand 18:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Draft template deleted in favor of version 2 below --Mikebrand 17:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Feel free to fiddle away.  I've contributed it to the public domain.  I have never created or extensively modified a WP template, but I presume that the WP formatting tools should be used and not HTML tables.  If people are agreeable to the basic layout of the content, I would suggest concentrating on just the content (ie, which wine terms occupy which cells) of the HTML table I posted.  Hopefully someone more versed in WP markup can format the table to look better. The page for table formatting is quite extensive: Help:Table. I'm always a fan of modifying something that is close to what is needed.  In this case, what we need is an example of an existing table that has a matrix of rows and columns.  --Mikebrand 01:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Copy of template deleted
I've taken it a step closer.  My lunch hour is over, so need to get back to work.  Feel free to expand on this --Mikebrand 18:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed replacement scheme 

message: ::Copy of template deleted
I've taken it a step closer.  My lunch hour is over, so need to get back to work.  Feel free to expand on this --Mikebrand 18:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Version 2

message: The template and discussion have now been copied here. --Portnadler 09:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template copied here

message: The table is not shrinking as it should.  For example, see the Cabernet Sauvignon page.  Depending on the width of the monitor, the right side of the table extends beyond the viewable area.  Changing the width from 90% to 80% made the problem less apparent, but even at 90% the table should fit on any screen (filling 90%).  The problem is not general to all pages as the table does shrink appropriately on the Grenache page. Ideas?  --Mikebrand 17:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind.  I figured it out.  The old template had "br clear="all"' at the top which did the trick.  --Mikebrand 17:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting Issue: width

message: I have removed the vertical bars within each category. They were taking up space and also looked a bit odd when the words wrapped. Now that we have each individual name with a non-breaking space, if necessary, it should resize nicely to suit your browser window. --Portnadler 15:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good.  Does look better without the bars.  BTW, on all the Varietals pages listed in this template, I've changed from the old template to this new one without any complaints.  --Mikebrand 17:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vertical Bars 

message: Seems like we need a category for non-fortified dessert wines like Eiswein and Sauternes.  In keeping with the progression, I think it would belong after Reds and before Fortified.  Objections?  --Mikebrand 18:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Category: Dessert Wines 

message: I was about to say "go for it", when I noticed that it had been done. I think it's a significant improvement. I have just made a couple of small changes: Chateauneuf du Pape is too specific, so I have changed it to Rhone. I've also corrected the link to the style Fruit. However, I must say that, IMHO, I would remove Fruit altogether, but I'm not going to get too hung up on this. --Portnadler 10:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Version 

message: The design of this template is excellent -- subtle colors and text is small enough that the template is not too big.  Good job to whoever came up with this.  Badagnani 11:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template

message: Shouldn't the heading for red grapes say "Red," not "Black"?  Badagnani 11:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: These grapes vary in colour from red through to black.  I think it's best to stick to black to avoid confusion with grapes for red wine and white wine.  But then, should white be changed to green?  --The Sage of Brouhaha 11:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black/red