Talk:List of Shakespearean characters (A–K)

message: 'Shakespeare characters' is ungrammatical. This page should be moved to Shakespearean characters. Anyone disagree? The Singing Badger 17:21, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Title change

message: This page is awesome. But I find the formatting a bit iffy. I don't like the way the numbered names appear further to the left than than the bulleted names. It's counter-intuitive. Methinks it would be better to replace the numbering with double bullets.
In other words, instead of this:
*Berkeley:
#Berkeley and Tressell (fict) are the two gentlemen accompanying Lady Anne, and Henry VI's coffin, in Richard III.
#Lord Berkeley (hist) acts as messenger from York to Bolingbroke, in Richard II.
*Bianca:
#Bianca is the younger sister of Katherine in The Taming of the Shrew. She is loved by Gremio and Hortensio, and eventually marries Lucentio.
#Bianca is a whore or mistress (the text is inconsistent on which she is) to Michael Cassio in Othello.
You would get this:
*Berkeley:
**Berkeley and Tressell (fict) are the two gentlemen accompanying Lady Anne, and Henry VI's coffin, in Richard III.
**Lord Berkeley (hist) acts as messenger from York to Bolingbroke, in Richard II.
*Bianca:
**Bianca is the younger sister of Katherine in The Taming of the Shrew. She is loved by Gremio and Hortensio, and eventually marries Lucentio.
**Bianca is a whore or mistress (the text is inconsistent on which she is) to Michael Cassio in Othello.
The latter is less broken up by spacing and easier to read, I think. Unfortunately it would be an arduous task to rework this enormous article, a task I am too lazy to do myself, but I just thought I'd raise the possibility. The Singing Badger 15:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wow thanks, that looks way better! Sorry I didn't check to see if it looked different in other skins, that was thoughtless of me. But anyway, it should definitely be a lot clearer now in all the skins. Thanks again. The Singing Badger 14:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting

message: this page originally spelled the character Goneril (which feels right to me, to be honest), but I changed it here to Gonerill per the NPS edition. It was recently changed back, and I've reverted: but I'm happy with the shorter version if you can bring a source. AndyJones 12:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gonerill? 

message: Progress Report on List of Shakespearean CharactersUpdated to 27 June 2007
Tragedies:              	Romeo and Juliet done| Macbeth done| King Lear done| Hamlet done| Othello done| Titus Andronicus done| Julius Caesar done| Antony and Cleopatra done |  Coriolanus done|  Troilus and Cressida done| Timon of Athens done
Comedies:               	A Midsummer Night's Dream done| All's Well That Ends Well done| As You Like It done| Cymbeline done| Love's Labour's Lost done| Measure for Measure Checked. Done.| The Merchant of Venice done|  The Merry Wives of Windsor done| Much Ado About Nothing done| Pericles, Prince of Tyre done|  Taming of the Shrew done| The Comedy of Errors done | The Tempest done| Twelfth Night, or What You Will done| The Two Gentlemen of Verona done| The Two Noble Kinsmen done| The Winter's Tale done
Histories:              	King John done| Richard II Checked. Done.| Henry IV, Part 1 Checked. Done.| Henry IV, Part 2 Checked. Done.| Henry V done | Henry VI, part 1 done| Henry VI, part 2 done done more| Henry VI, part 3 done | Richard III done | Henry VIII done
Poems and Sonnets:      	No action required
Apocrypha and Lost Plays	No action required
See also:               	No action required
</center> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AndyJones (talk • contribs) 09:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progress report 

message: Wonderful, useful list. I noticed that there is no image for "N" and so uploaded this illustration of Juliet and the Nurse. Please use it if you feel it suits. — scribblingwoman 01:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "N" is for Nurse 

message: I like the idea of a sorted wikitable for this list, as suggested in the ongoing peer review.  A sample of such a table can be found here.  It would be a big project, but worth it.  I would be very willing to help. Wrad 21:44, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sorted wikitable 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Titus1w.jpg

message: I'm not really in any hurry, but I figured I'd post the featured list criteria here. We can go over it point by point and evaluate what needs to be done as time permits.
A featured list exemplifies our very best work and features professional standards of writing and presentation. In addition to meeting the requirements for all Wikipedia articles, it has the following attributes:
#It is useful, comprehensive, factually accurate, stable, uncontroversial and well-constructed. 
#*(a) "Useful" means that the list covers a topic that lends itself to list format (see Wikipedia:List). For example, the list:  seems to fit this perfectly. Wrad 21:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured list criteria 

message: I'd like to add Rosaline, Sycorax (Shakespeare), and Yorick to this list. I recognize that they are not seen in the plays, but they are "Shakespearean characters". In my opinion, the list needs these articles in order to be comprehensive. However, for now I would limit the addition of unseen characters to those that have legitimate articles on Wikipedia. Wrad 19:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A request regarding unseen Shakespearean characters 

message: Play            	Name            	Gender	Occupation                                                                                          	Comment
Titus Andronicus	Titus Andronicus	Male  	a noble Roman, General against the Goths.                                                           	the central character of Titus Andronicus. Broken and sent mad by Tamora and her followers, he eventually exacts his revenge by killing her sons, and cooking them for her to eat.
Twelfth Night   	Toby Belch      	Male  	a drunken knight, and kinsman to Olivia                                                             	crude, and often drunk
Romeo and Juliet	Juliet Capulet  	Female	the young daughter of a respected and very wealthy family in Verona, headed by Lord and Lady Capulet	a title character in Romeo and Juliet. The daughter of Capulet, she falls in love with Romeo, the son of her father's enemy Montague, with tragic results.
A lot of work - but could be worth it. SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 21:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sortable table 

message: I have split the article into two separate articles encompassing Characters with names from A-K and names from L-Z. I preserved the existing order of characters, and duplicated sources. I have also removed most double-redirects, sending redirects to the A-K article unless it's clear that a particular character from L-Z was intended. I also corrected the template to refer to both pages, and amended the Table of Contents to link between the two articles for easy navigation. As the article was ranked #14 on the list of longest articles in the main article space, it was a good candidate for a split. The history of the page is preserved at the A-K article. Best, ZZ  Claims ~ Evidence  17:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Split

message: Shouldn't Cardenio  be mentioned?
Even if the play is lost, it has a life in Don Quixote.
--Error (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...No, but it's a safe bet that it has Cardenio in it. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 07:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Waiting for Godot (sorry, so obvious I just couldn't resist) :-) --Xover (talk) 08:06, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Cardenio

message: Gargrave refers to Thomas Gargrave who actually was killed about when he was killed in the play. The play article links to another Thomas Gargrave. I started an article on the correct Thomas Gargrave, but it was rejected on the grounds of an inadequate military record. My question: would the historical Thomas Gargrave merit inclusion in Wikipedia on the basis of his mention in a Shakespeare play? Fotoguzzi (talk) 19:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If the critical editions of the play, or related journal articles, discuss the character specifically, and linked to the historical person, then, yes, they would help establish notability for the historical person. --Xover (talk) 08:09, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Gargrave