Talk:Zosimos of Panopolis

message: This article appears to be based on Jung's very imperfect understanding of Zosimus: imperfect both becuase of the bais of Jung's interpretation and because of its ignorance of the extant corups of Zosimus' works. In fact there survives in the original Greek a complete treatise by Zosimus, On the Letter Omega, which is not mentioned in the article. To describe Zosimus as a 'Gnsoic mystic' after the precision of understanding of what Gnosticism is and is not in the light of the last half century of scholarship is laughable. The whole article needs to be rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.0.49.132  (talk • contribs) 
:Dear sir or madam, we know that wikipedia is imperfect in many places. Thank you fo criticism, but it would be much more useful if you actually edited the artcle referring to more recent scholar sources (providein quots and reference, per wikipedia's policies,  see Wikipedia:Attribution) (it is quite understandable that historians know more since Jung's times). Mukadderat 03:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A fuller translation is under way in the very capable hands of members of the Warburg Institute's academic body. As an occasional contributor to the work, it seems to me that this is something of an anachronous red herring, a commentator wagging the original dog, so better placed under Jungian philosophy somewhere and merely referred to here under the more usual See Also section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.30.185 (talk) 07:50, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have something to add, add it. -165.234.252.11 (talk) 18:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Critical remark

message: I think that the vision section could be shortened up.J8079s (talk) 22:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  too much vison ? 

message: He is referenced in Picatrix, the most influential book for western magic. Perhaps this could be included somewhere in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.244.136 (talk) 05:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Picatrix

message: I read this article and found myself wondering whether we have two people confused together here.  The first is the alchemical writer; the second is the author of the Nag Hammadi gnostic text?
I've never researched it, but I ask the question. Box2112 (talk) 14:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Nag Hammadi texts were a collection of various texts by various authors.  Not all Gnostic works were includes in the Nag Hammadi codexes, and not everything that was in there was Gnostic (something by Plato was in there, and some works that affirmed the crucifixion, incarnation, and the sanctity of physical life).  I can't find anything about a work relating to any Zosimos in the Nag Hammadi Codexes.  There was a work titles Zostrianos in the NGC, maybe you have those confused?  Also, Zosimos wrote at a time when Gnosticism and Alchemy kinda overlapped. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is trying to say that the fallen-angels-teaching-metallurgy legend appears in Gnostic texts (i.e., The Apocryphon of John), not that Zosimos wrote that particular text. Perhaps that needs to be rephrased. Kramden (talk) 17:56, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yeah, that's more specifically an Enochian idea than a Gnostic one.  Some of the Gnostics did believe that, but others ignored it.  Ian.thomson (talk) 18:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Zosimus the alchemist actually the same as Zosimus the gnostic 

message: Some wikis say he lived between 350 and 420 AD, that's 4th and 5th century. This article says 2nd and 3rd century. Ponor (talk) 05:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Reputable scholars who have seriously studied the sources are united in saying he flourished ca. 300, not ca. 400.  The dating in the article is correct.Ajrocke (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: IDK. More sources should be checked, as it may happen that some other reputable scholars place Zosimos a century earlier or later. Mertens 2002 in the linked article, perhaps? Ponor (talk) 08:09, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  When did he live?