Talk:Sega Genesis/Archive 4

message: Right, lets have a quick brainstorm about stuff that needs adding to this article to get to FA status before the SNES. Your favourite console deserves it!. Just add anythhing you think needs adding on to the end.
I think we need to add info about the advertising of the console because, at least hear in the UK, it was the first console to go beyond adverts that were aimed at gamers with "Pirate TV" and "The cyber-razor cut". What were the US campaign(s) like? - X201 22:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How 'bout some REFERENCES?  Two refs for the whole article? Hbdragon88 07:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

text: How aobut Good Article status first =/ Sonic3KMaster(talk) 05:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: GA status for Sonic the Hedgehog (character) needed references first, so I think the same would apply here. (Speaking of which, I'm sure that article has a few usable references for this article.) The difference here is that referencing must be absolutely neurotic (every sentence) for FA status, while GA status is much easier to reach. (Generally, one or so references per paragraph is sufficient for GA status.) --DavidHOzAu 05:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I count four external links inside the article text; these can be converted to references, using  inside the <ref> tag. --DavidHOzAu 05:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. - X201 09:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brainstorming session - stuff that needs adding 

message: The article about the variations needs a clear rework since the comparisms of the different models are mixed up, for example the PAL MD2 is compared with the PAL MD1 and the JAP MD2 without a clear structure. I've made some suggestions at the talk page but haven't received any input yet. Would be nice if some people would have a look and provide some inputs. --32X 00:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  request for input: [[Variations of the Sega Mega Drive]] needs rework  

message: There are like ten references to how much more popular the SNES was. This doesn't need to be mentioned all over the place. in fact the article as a whole seems to go out of its way to portray the system (and Sega) as being weak and vulnerable by comparison. I'm going to try and work on reducing this. Chris Cunningham 11:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Its something quite common across wikipedia really- a pro nintendo bias.
The mega drive was actually more succesful then the snes back during the 16 bit era- the snes only appears to have done better as it was supported a lot longer--Josquius 21:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many "death of the Genesis" comments 

message: This is a question about a 
recent edit:
Was'n the Genesis only released in North America under that brand name? US, Canada, maybe Mexico? Brazil had the Mega Drive, I don't know about the Spanish/English speaking countries. --32X 23:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding was that it was Genesis in the US because of copyright issues with the Mega Drive name and so to keep it uniform, it was sold in the whole of North America as Genesis. - X201 09:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's what I meant. But before changing "Americas" to "North America", I wanted to be sure. Besides that, "Mega Drive Logo (Japan & Europe)" gives 2 pieces of information in a wrong context. The logo was only used in Europe and Australasia (nobody cares, haha); PAL asia and Japan had another one.  --32X 05:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genesis in ... 

message: "The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after the first console popularly classed as a 16-bit machine - the NEC PC Engine."
The PC-Engine is an 8-bit machine, as stated in the Wikipedia article linked from this one. Someone might rewrite that sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guest Account (talk • contribs) .
: But it's "popularly classed" as a 16-bit machine on account of its graphics capabilities. I'll rewrite it to say "the first of the fourth-generation machines" though, to make this clear. Chris Cunningham 15:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after of the fourth generation consoles - the NEC PC Engine.  What? --32X 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: PC-Engine

message: I actually think technical spec best left as it is as the technical terms were best described using lists.
203.81.161.151 13:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerning the text-tation of lists

message: The Sega page lists that Sega has 65% market share and yet the SNES page lists that the market shares were approximately equal and cites a source. --Elangsto 03:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The source in the SNES article backs up the statement in the Mega Drive article. The Mega Drive article talks about loss of market share for Sega which ties up with the SNES citation. The Mega Drive article then goes on the say that sales were boosted back up to the 65% mark by the release of Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Sonic 2 was released in November the SNES citation is dated June and so obviously doesn't contain the sales boost given by Sonic 2. - X201 08:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  and in 1992 

message: I think this article would benefit from an image of a Mega Drive II. Unfortunately, I no longer have one, so someone else should take a photo. --Mouse Nightshirt 00:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: see Variations of the Sega Mega Drive --32X 00:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Drive II picture? 

message: How can Sonic the Hedgehog be listed as the top selling game if you look at this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_computer_and_video_games#Sega_Mega_Drive.2FSega_Genesis Zebbe 17:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion this field doesn't give any valuable information, but nethertheless I've changed it back. (original change) --32X 11:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Selling Game 

message: "The Mega Drive continued to hold on to a healthy fan base composed significantly of RPG and sports games fans."
i personaly dont think that this  statement is accurate. while i am aware that the megadrive had alot of sports games on i seem to remember very few "role play games" of cource there is phantasy star howeever i can list very few others. to my knowledge the snes was more noted for its RPG  while the megadrive seemedattractive to the development of platform games?? perhaps we should consider changing the paragraph or finding some citation to support the statement--Dr noire 19:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  this statement: Re Roleplay games. 

message: Epicenter is a person who has barely any concepts on how electronics work (for example see http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2016&page=6), plus his site is mostly made up from articles stolen from elsewhere (such as the Ecco and sonic crackers one), so I removed the link for his genesis oc guide before someone ruins his console because of this kids unverified techno-blabber copypasta guides. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.0.148.54 (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought it back since it's used to reference the statement. Delete either all or nothing from that trivia statement. --32X 18:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed overclocking link 

message: I would like to point out that the Console Passion link is (a) a commercial site and (b) not, as it claims, a complete list of all PAL Megadrive games (it is missing all of the Australian exclusives for a start ..).  For a much more comprehensive list I would recommend either Genesis Collective, Digital Press or guardiana.net  
Guardiana is probably the best for reference purposes, as it includes many cover scans, screenshots etc.  
--Tirian 23:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release List 

message: Someone please write the Europe section, the grammar is terrible. ...in America! 14:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Corrections done. Could still use a proper rewrite though. Miremare 05:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe 

message: Shouldn't there be something about the 6 button pad in the article? It was released a long while after the original Megadrive/ Genesis wasn't it?Doom jester 12:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. There isn't a picture of it on commons but I'm going to take a photo and put it on there. The Six button was primarily released to enable Street Fighter 2 to be playable properly (a 3 button pad would work but made the game harder to play.)The six button was also considerably samller than the three button so I'll probably do a comparison photo as well. - X201 12:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I lied. I've just found this :Image:Mega Drive Controllers.jpg on Commons. - X201 13:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  6 button pad 

message: Just a curiosity question.  Anyone else lamenting the fact that "Mega Drive" won out over "Genesis" as the name of the article? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.215.97 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Genesis 

message: There are currently two categories, one has to go.
* pro :Category:Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis:
** more articles
** covers both names
** "survived" an CfD last September with no consensus
* pro :Category:Sega Mega Drive:
** shorter category name
** category name equals article name
** last september's CfD was partly overwritten: Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis games -> Sega Mega Drive games
I don't care which one will remain, but one has to go. With enough suggestions we could start an CfD that doesn't result in "no consensus". --32X 21:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Sega Mega Drive Games would be the most logical given the article name and I suppose would bring Category:Sega CD Games into the re-naming discussion as well. Might be an idea to get both sorted at the same time in the same discussion. - X201 12:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: "Mega Drive games" would seem the correct choice given the name of the article. I wouldn't be too bothered if the other one won out, be we certainly shouldn't have them both. Miremare 23:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis]] vs. [[:Category:Sega Mega Drive]] 

message: I think that some one should post the different hardware revisions of the genesis because i know there are 3 and i have owned the first and third version in the past and i think it was and would be interesting to see the differences in designs.
Pocky09 08:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genesis HW REV