Talk:Royal Thai Army

message: 199.123.79.97 (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: Article Royal Guards (Thailand) is a stub and an unsourced orphan which falls under the scope of the article Thai Royal Army. I suggest Royal Guards (Thailand) be merged into it. --Lendorien 15:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: Camp Bodindecha (,) named for Chao Phraya Bodindecha, is located by Route 23  (Chaeng Sanit Road () in Tambon Doet (), Amphoe Mueang Yasothon, near the city of Yasothon. It is home to  16, and the  open-to-the-public Bodindecha Golf Club. I'd like to add mention of both camp and golf course to both amphoe and city articles, but don't know how to translate  , much less how it fits into the Thai Army structure.. Also, while I can find the Google Map for Bordindecha Golf Club, I can't find the coordinates. Help, please? --Pawyilee (talk) 10:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: กรมทหารราบที่ 16 translates as the Sixteenth Infantry Regiment. The GeoLocator tool can be used to create coordinates templates. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried the Swiss Army Knife of Geo Referencing, entered this map URL and got 18° 50′ 0.65″ N  99° 46′ 40.2″ E, which is at least in the right country, but not close enough for an H-bomb. I also got driving directions from coordinates to camp, for a distance of 770 km  – about 12 hours by road. What did I do wrong? --Pawyilee (talk) 12:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it with itouchmap.com. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camp Bodindecha, Yasothon 

message: Twentieth century impressions of Siam (1908) contains articles on the Army and the Navy by Major Luang Bhuvanarth Narubal, Chief of General Staff, beginning on p.101 --Pawyilee (talk) 13:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twentieth century impressions of Siam 

message: Short C-23 Sherpa says Thailand has two, and so does this. It is normally used by army units, but the C-23 is mentioned neither here nor at Royal Thai Air Force. --Pawyilee (talk) 15:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Army aviation 

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message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
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message: "Higher levels" of the Thai army has over time been implicated in the lucrative trade of running methamphetamines from neighboring countries. Notable claims have been made, that "higher levels" of the police force have (in in this decade also) battled for control over that drug trade. Does any one have any notable references? (The following version of the "Mekong River Massacre"  only has a reference about low-level problems in the army, and adds some innuendo about a general who is a rising star. 176.11.140.20 (talk) 14:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations about "profit centers" re. the methamphetamine trade 

message: In September 2016 Amnesty International released a report on torture in Thailand since the 2014 illegal military coup titled "Make Him Speak By Tomorrow": Torture and Other Ill-Treatment in Thailand.
In the report Amnesty has documented 28 alleged cases of torture by Thai military in the "deep south":
Although it is hard to reliably estimate the scale of the use of torture in southern Thailand, reports from other
sources suggest that the problem extends well beyond those cases documented in this report. [86]
[...]
Amnesty International found that suspected insurgents were typically arrested at their homes by military,
police or combined forces. Detainees were usually taken to a police station where their arrests were officially
registered before being transferred to unofficial places of detention within military camps, where they were
interrogated for up to the seven days of unaccountable detention allowed under the Martial Law Act. These
camps are in various locations in the conflict-affected southern provinces and are affiliated with a variety of
different military units, including Army battalions, “Special Taskforce” units and “Ranger” military units. [87] In
many cases, victims stated that they were held at a Taskforce base within the sprawling Ingkayuthboriharn
Army camp (hereafter, “Ingayuth”) in Pattani Province, or elsewhere in the vicinity of Ingkayuth during this
period. Other victims were not sure where they were held during the initial period of detention. During the up
to seven days that individuals were held in these locations, they said they were interrogated primarily by
soldiers from “Special Taskforce” and “Ranger” units.
[...]
According to victims, their family members, lawyers and NGO staff working with detainees, torture and other
ill-treatment predominantly occur during the seven-day period of initial, unaccountable interrogation in
unofficial places of detention. Soldiers have tortured or otherwise ill-treated detainees while demanding that
they confess to crimes or provide information on attacks and other activities by insurgents and the identity of
other insurgents.
Amnesty International’s research did not uncover any dedicated torture-chambers with specialized
equipment or instruments. Rather, military interrogators employed methods of torture and other ill-treatment
using items available in perpetrators’ immediate environment including their own hands, fists, knees and
feet, guns, sticks, plastic bags, scarves, and pieces of clothing.
[...]
Amnesty International documented nine cases in which detainees were choked or strangled, often with a
plastic bag, rope or scarf. In some of these cases, water was poured on a bag or wet cloth held over the
mouth and nose of the victim, blocking the airways and simulating suffocation (a procedure commonly
known as “waterboarding”). In almost all cases documented by Amnesty International, suffocation was used
several times in a row, with short pauses in between. [100]
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[86] See, for example, Patani Human Rights Group, and Cross-Cultural Foundation, and Hearty Support (Duay Jai Group), Torture and ill
treatment in The Deep South Documented in 2014-2015, February 2016, https://voicefromthais.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/torture-report-english-as-of-10-feb-2016-released-version.pdf (drawing from interviews with 54 alleged victims of torture).
[87] For a list of unofficial detention centres in the southern provinces see Amnesty International, Torture in the Southern Counter-
Insurgency, p. 7.
[100] Amnesty International’s documentation of suffocation accords with the organization’s previous findings, as well as that of other
NGOs. See, for example, Amnesty International, Torture in the Southern Counter-Insurgency, pp. 14, 16-20, 22-3; Cross-Cultural
Foundation, et al, Torture and ill treatment in the Deep South Documented in 2014-2015, pp. 6-8, 16-18, 22, 25, 30; Coalition of
Thai Civil Society Organizations, Shadow Report to CAT, p. 22.
There were 18 documented cases of torture elsewhere in Thailand of political prisoners where the military officers were the alleged perpetrators:
Torture and other ill-treatment of persons detained by the army on political or security grounds since the
2014 coup assumed many of the same forms employed in southern Thailand. Beatings were the most common form of torture and other ill-treatment. Amnesty International also reviewed cases involving
strangling, choking, waterboarding, electroshocks and burns, prolonged and painful handcuffing, humiliation
(including through acts of a sexual nature), prolonged blindfolding, threats, including death threats, and
exposure to cold.
Leaving as a note here on the talk page for later integration (in shortened form) in the article -- perhaps a common section with the allegations related to drug trafficking?
Tunkki-1970 (talk) 02:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if this is the best article. The Amnesty report is already mentioned in Human rights in Thailand, and while the most significant cases probably concern the Army, it's not alone among the security forces in being criticised. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wasn't aware of the human rights article on Wikipedia, thanks for pointing it out. Perhaps a mention and link to that page would be sufficient? In this article there's a small section on "current" state of the RTA that goes beyond military structure and into the political speculation of army factions -- would a mention of current alleged human rights violations and torture by the RTA and link to the page detailing them feel more appropriate?  Tunkki-1970 (talk) 03:22, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of Torture 

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