Talk:The Replacements (band)

message: This article is mentioned at the end of this Wall Street Journal article: "Check out Wikipedia's entries on deconstructionism, the history of records, or the Replacements, then consider that those entries and some 868,000 others are the work of volunteers. I find that impressive -- revolutionary, even."
wow, thats an amazing article... !!! Xsxex 23:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention in Wall Street Journal 

message: I'm with Buster. While I agree with a lot of the subjective material in this article, I think the entire thing could do with a wave of the NPOV wand. 
Also I think the writing slips into humor a few times ("looser (not loser)", "instead play covers, which they were also too drunk to play"). It's nice to hear the stories, but it feels out of place on wikipedia.
There are also a couple of places that could use fleshing out or correcting. By most accounts, Bob was fired; the article makes it sound like he walked. Also I think the story of the "diastrous opening tour" needs fleshing out. Maybe explain their hostility towards an indifferent crowd. For the singles, there are numbers next to some indicating their chart position, but which chart? 
It might be nice to add more structure to the article. Start off with a paragraph saying who they were and their general sound and reputation. Go with a chronological discussion of albums without veering off on tangents too much -- just sound, notable songs, critical/fan reaction, impact on band. Maybe divide this by the Twin/Tone Years and Sire Years. It would be nice if the chronology could impart the sense that they always flirted with success, but were undermined by their self-destructive tendencies. Add a separate section for post-Mats projects. Add a section on people they've influenced.
This article is in need of a rewrite.  I'm a huge HUGE fan, but this article needs some serious work, NPOV and otherwise.  Help me or I will get to it eventually. Ee60640 12:03, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is It Time For A Rewrite? 

message: I removed the discography, with the exclusion of studio albums, and put it on a new discography page. Bsd987 22:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also made a category for The Replacements, so if you see anything connected to The Replacements directly not in a category, please add it. I've checked for songs, finding a page for Kiss Me on the Bus, which is only a stub and I put that to the songs subcategory, and I made a page for I'll Be You. Let's get pages for all the singles, or at least all the singles that charted. Bsd987 23:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography page 

message: The New York Times has refers to the early years of The Replacements as pop punk. I am using this as support to add this band to the "pop punk groups" category. Here is a link to the article: , here's a direct quote from the first 2 sentence, "The Replacements entered the 1980's ripping and roaring, becoming the smartest, brashest, loudest pop-punk band ever to perform songs by Kiss, Cher and Black Sabbath. They left the decade with thinking caps on, recording contemplative, more classic-sounding rock, pop and roots music before breaking up in 1990, too soon to cash in on the alternative-rock explosion they helped create." Xsxex 23:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pop punk early in career 

message: Didn't Bob Stinson use to wear a dress onstage from time to time? (unfortunately, I never saw them live even though I lived in the Twin Cities.)  Seems like an interesting factoid to work into the article.  I know some articles were written after Bob died, about him and the Replacements that could be linked to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.34.148.192 (talk) 15:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob Stinson 

message: This page needs references. If people want to help, a good place to start would be Our Band Could Be Your Life. Also, the genres for a band like the replacements are going to be a total mess considering they played every kind of music, and were at least partially responsible for inventing alt country. Cank 16:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References missing 

message: The song "Lookin' For Ya" was recorded in mid-1982 'specifically for the "KQDS Miller High Life Rock to Riches Talent Search Contest", and appeared on a compilation album ("Trackin' Up the North") dedicated to contest entries from various bands. At the end of the song Paul yells "Keep your riches, gimme a Budweiser," which probably didn't make the Miller beer people too happy. Needless to say, the Mats did not win the contest.'
source: http://www.22designs.com/foshaytower2/sessionography.html
Excellent proof that the Replacements' messed up any opportunity they got, even before they really got acclaimed. Should we use this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.104.88 (talk) 19:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They're reputed to have opened an interview (conducted by Cameron Crowe who also told the story) with the words "We don't believe in tape recorders". Hilarious quote (how did they record their music, then?) but not the token of a band very willing to jump on an opportunity. 83.254.159.35 (talk) 03:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we use this? 

message: As an editor at Crawdaddy!, and to comply with COI guidelines, I am not posting any information from this article, or the article itself. However, I would like to recommend it on its merits, and hope that an editor will find the time to examine this piece on Hüsker Dü and the Replacements, which was originally published in Q in 1987 and republished in Crawdaddy! in 2008, and incorporate it if they see fit. I appreciate your time. Asst. Editor, Crawdaddy! FenderRhodesScholar | Talk 23:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  article/source/interview suggestion 

message: As the Crawdaddy! Editorial Assistant, and to comply with COI guidelines, I'm not posting a link to this new interview with Peter Jesperson, former manager and co-producer for the Replacements, about the new back catalog reissues. However, it's a great article, and hopefully an editor will get time to read it and, if they see fit, add it as an external link or resource link. Thanks for your consideration. Mike harkin (talk) 22:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link / Resource suggestion: New interview with Peter Jesperson 

message: the article says: "Foley died in 2008 from an accidental overdose of a prescription medication (not a drug overdose)."  Er, isn't an overdose on prescription drugs, by definition, a drug overdose?  I suppose the parenthetical is meant to assure us that he didn't overdose on illegal drugs, but surely the word "prescription" does that nicely. --Jfruh (talk) 00:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  overdose 

message: I have removed the reference to the phrase "color me impressed" being a Replacements reference.  It's a common enough expression - unless there is some reason for thinking that it was specifically intended to be a reference to the band, it should not be here.  If it is a reference to the band, a reference should be provided to demostrate this.
203.39.12.130 (talk) 23:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  color me [whatever] 

message: The current version of the article mentions the band Dogbreath as if we know who is being talked about.  Was that the name of the pre-Replacements trio?  This should be clarified.24.45.7.108 (talk) 04:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Dogbreath"?

message: If "We're the Replacements" by They Might Be Giants is written "in tribute" to the band, as it says in the Legacy section, it's a very ironic tribute. I'd say it was more like a satire. What do people think if I just remove it?
:Well, I grabbed the bull and deleted the reference. The song sounds like "We're the Monkees". It implies that all the band's extreme drinking, drugging, and horsing around was (at least partly) an act. Which it was. What was genuine at first evolved into a reputation they felt they had to live up (or down) to. That's how I hear the song anyway.Prohairesius (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  They Might Be Joking 

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message: Their drunken January 1986 appearance on Saturday Night Live has become the stuff of legend, and everyone involved who is still alive agrees that it was a fiasco.  Ironically, as you can see for yourself by watching the videos of their two songs on Youtube, they actually sounded OK. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 14:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saturday Night Live performance 

message: So some anonymous editor decided Minneapolis is in Canada and the band were Canadian. Might be some South Park humor, but I think it is best if I change it back to American. --MichielN (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian? 

message: I have tried in good faith to tidy up this article multiple times now by cutting out the mention of The Mats, truly one of the worst nicknames in rock music history. It's inappropriate due to its irrelevance, informal nature, and potential confusion for readers seeking factual and comprehensive information about the band. Articles are expected to maintain a neutral, encyclopedic tone and focus on essential details. "The Mats" may be a name casually used by a certain fringe group of fans, but it has certainly never been done “affectionately” (it was coined as an insult, after all), and it lacks the significance necessary for inclusion. It also begs the question - who are these fans that refer to the band as such? Certainly not me. Certainly not anyone I’ve ever spoken with about the band (I've been around - there have been many!) Such information detracts from the article's professionalism and fails to contribute meaningfully to the reader's understanding of the band's artistic achievements or cultural impact. As noted, the band's name carries a very specific and well thought out meaning. "The Mats" diminishes this important part of the band's identity, and its inclusion in the article is ultimately disrespectful to the band’s members and its legacy. Let this awful nickname be relegated to the dustbin of history - please. The Replacements are The Replacements. They are not something to set on the dinner table, or to wipe your dirty shoes on after coming home. Respectfully. 202.17.148.173 (talk) 02:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect: You are clearly and demonstrably wrong. Many, many fans of the band, including prominent musicians and rock journalists, have frequently referred to the Replacements as "The Mats." There are dozens of examples of this in print media. The two citations in the article are both from well-respected sources, but there are many others. And while the nickname may have its origins in an insult, it has grown to be embraced with affectionate irony by people who both love and understand who the Replacements are. Please stop. Mehendri Solon (talk) 13:58, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Mehendri - thanks for your comment. Sorry, but this information is simply not relevant enough to be included in the biography of an already niche indie rock group. It adds nothing positive to the article, and rock journalists do not (and should not) speak for fans of the band at large. Again - I don't refer to The Replacements by that name and I don't know anyone who does, so the fact that their "fans" refer to them by that as a blanket statement is objectively false. On the topic of awful rock nicknames - even Paul McCartney's nickname "Macca" is relegated to a small note in the infobox on his page. On Morrissey's article, at least the editors there have had the decency of quoting Morrissey's rightful disdain of the nickname as sounding like a cleaning product. Aside from music, let's not even get started on Joe Biden's "Brandon" nickname - also, rightfully, nowhere to be seen in his article despite it's popularity with a certain group of people. To be clear - I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't meaning to imply that I don't love or "understand" (?) The Replacements for objecting to this - but it would be pretty easy to take it that way, and I wouldn't appreciate it one bit if that were the intended meaning.103.125.235.30 (talk) 09:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You have been mounting a one-person fight against a nickname that you don't like.  That nickname shows up in many, many reliable sources on the band, and this wikipedia article would be worse if it didn't mention the nickname.  Please stop. CAVincent (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  No more Mats