Talk:List of The Goon Show cast members and characters

message: Personally I preferred it with these details on the original The Goon Show page. It may have made the page a bit long but I think these are essential details about the show.
Also, in future post in the Talk page before you make a major change like this please. --Albert 19:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this page neccessary?

message: IF I RECALL CORRECTLY (because I can't find it) My copy of "More Goon Show Scripts" suggests that Kenneth Connor deputised for Milligan, Sellers and Secombe during 1959/1960, meaning that he would have been the only actor to have played Bloodnok, Eccles, Moriarty, Gryppe-Pype Thynne, Neddy, Uncle Henry, Minnie Bannister and Bluebottle.  One episode has him down as playing for Secombe and Milligan alongside Sellers; another alongside Milligan and Secombe covering for Sellers, and a third covering both Sellers and Milligan alongside Secombe.  Shurely shome mishtake???
--Lunarship 01:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't find it in my paper-back edition - any suggestions as to which pages/section to look in? --AGoon 02:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I obviously don't recall correctly, but I am hunting the reference. I know it is in one of my Goon Show books, but I can't locate which one. Lunarship (talk) 02:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Kenneth Connor

message: From current page (2006-08-05)
"Hearn, Hern or Herne, also Herne Sales. An American character used for narration, outrageous announcements, parody sales pitches. The Goons referred to Americans as "herns", possibly because saying "hern hern hern...." sounded American to them. See also Lafcadio Hearn."
: I can see no great evidence of alternative spellings being used in Goon Shows except by mistake.  The published scripts from Milligan use "Hern", only one transcriber uses "Hearn" (in two different shows he transcribed).  "Lafcadio Hearn" seems to have absolutely nothing to do with the Goons or Milligan. On alt.fan.goons google shows 5 refs to herne, 8 to hearn, 10 to hearne and 551 to hern. On alt.fan.goons  Paul Winalski says "It's a Goonism.  There was an American-accented employee of the BBC named William Hearne.  The Goons mocked his name and accent by adopting "hern hern hern" as the quintessential distillation of the American accent."  (Paul is an expert on Goon show scripts and has reputedly transcribed every show for his own referemce) - I will edit this entry --AGoon 02:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hern

message: No, I'm not confusing it with 1954's "Ye Bandit of Sherwood Forest". You mention here the Christmas special "Robin Hood", guest-starring Valentine Dyall. On this page it is dated to 1956, but on the episode list page it is dated to 1952. Which is right? The script linked to, from various references in it, CANNOT have been written any earlier than 1955, but maybe the Goons adapted a 1952 script to be re-broadcast later? Other sites seem none the wiser - some say series 3 (1952), others series 7 (1956). At least one Goon Show book says the 1954 "Bandit" episode was re-recorded for Vintage Goons in 1957-58, but Wikipedia's episode list says not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.185.217 (talk) 14:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see it is listed as "Robin Hood unaired" on the episodes page. --AGoon 11:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. Actually it doesn't use much of "Ye Bandit" - less than a third, I'd say - and Bluebottle only has a couple of Marian's lines. But thanks for clearing up the confusion!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.112.50 (talk) 14:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Robin Hood episode

message: Surely Lew and Ernie Cash are two of the three Winogradsky brothers?  "My life" as Neddy would say. 80.2.201.219 (talk) 12:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Off topic, perhaps, but it's clear to me that they are references to Lew and Leslie Grade. Whether (or where) we can vind verifiable proof of this I don't know, however Lunarship (talk) 02:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lew/Ernie Cash 

message: The main source for this page (http://goonshowscripts.afraid.org) seem to have disappeared. http://www.thegoonshow.net/scripts.asp seems like it may be a suitable replacement. - 220 of Borg 19:04, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole www.thegoonshow.net domain went permanently dead during 2023. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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message: I'm surprised the examples of racist jokes are here.
I'm reminded of the (often off colour but never racist) UK comedian Frankie Boyle being phoned up by a tabloid journalist about a joke he told on stage about someone recently deceased. The journalist stated that he intended to phone up the deceased's family to tell them the joke and see how offended they were at Mr. Boyle. Mr Boyle pointed out that as there would be no expectation of a family member being in his audience, the journalist was taking ownership of the joke (and the family finding out about it) and deliberately attempting to offend the family himself. In that scenario, any offense would be the fault of the journalist.
Likewise, in the Ray Ellington section, saying that some of Milligan/Sykes/Stephens' jokes would be now considered racist is not justification for telling those same racist jokes; It's just being racist. By having them there, wikipedia is taking ownership of the jokes and the general public finding out about them.
For instance, the first "Black Rod" joke has only a passing resemblance to a Parliamentary term. It is clearly and obviously a "Isn't it funny that black men have large penises" joke. A similar case is ongoing at Manchester United Football Club with the club, in line with their zero tolerance approach to racism, attempting to identify supporters who insist on singing a song about their player Romelu Lukaku, about the length of his penis, with a view to refusing them entry to their ground or banning (or worse). The song has been roundly condemned by all parties including the player.
I can't see how this article isn't doing exactly the same thing.
 Christheneck (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ray Ellington entry (under Other Nembers)