Talk:Ectoplasm (paranormal)

message: Would it be at all possible to find a picture of ectoplasm that doesn't look like a catfish wearing a tophat? Thanks.
:I have a picture of ectoplasm I took Christmas morning, when I was taking pictures of my tree.Mack49 18:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe get a picture of a ecto-ghost from Danny Phantom.
Does it have to be real ectoplasm? We could simulate it in a self generated image so long as we say what that it is a simulation. All the ectoplasm that I've seen in documentaries etc looks like thick wallpaper pastes so it shouldn't be too hard.
Alternatively, we could just take a screengrab of ectoplasm in popular fiction. That scene where Peter is slimed in the hotel would do.
perfectblue 06:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ectoplasm pictures 

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message: This article seems crap to me. Unsupported claims about a pseudo-scientific "substance" that is supported by a screenie from Ghostbusters. Wow.
I put it on my lengthening list; perhaps I'll get around to fixing this up if nobody else does. (And yes, I realize ectoplasm is indeed a technical term, but this article doesn't seem to.) Eaglizard 21:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did I just clean up the claims you're talking about? ——Martinphi  (Talk Ψ Contribs) 03:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, yes, quite so. I see that I happened to catch it in-between times. Glad somebody's paying attention to it. ;) Being here anyways, I wound up copy-editing the crap out of it, hope I wasn't too heavy-handed. Eaglizard 04:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Paranormal articles often need a heavy hand.  Like you say, it needs fleshing out, as we're using the lead for stuff not covered in the article.  ——Martinphi  (Talk Ψ Contribs) 04:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ugh 

message: Is ectoplasm involved in Noel Coward's Blithe Spirit?  I think not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.23.79 (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blithe Spirit

message: ...cannot have any bearing whatsoever on the subject. None of the 'spirit photographers' have ever claimed ectoplasm to be one way or another involved in their 'art'. Any of these, though would do. -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Could this phenomenon be the very reason that the definitive ghost is a white sheet w/holes for eyes and a mouth? Sounds worth mentioning. AngusCA (talk) 20:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profound influence on pop culture? 

message: The article says the word ectoplasm was coined by Charles Richet, citing a website that says the word was coined by Charles Richet. No source is given.
The OED gives the following as its first use:
1883   J. E. Ady in Knowl. 15 June 355/2   Its [Amœba's] jelly-like body becomes faintly parcelled out into an outer firm (ectoplasm) and an inner soft (endoplasm) layer.
The OED gives the first use in parapsychology as:
a1901   F. W. H. Myers Human Personality (1903) II. 548   In describing..imperfectly aggregated ectoplasms we have already touched on the next class, that of quasi-organic detached ectoplasms.
Maybe Richet was the first to use it in parapsychology, but somebody needs to find a source for that. Otherwise the article needs to be altered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endoplasm666 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Charles Richet--Jerzy•t 11:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source? 

message: I cauterized a sentence with a few vague words, in place of 
: "could only point to three cases that met Innes's requirements, one of which later turned out to be fraud".Gurney, Edmund. (1887). Letters on Phantasms: A Reply. Nineteenth Century 22: 522-533.Peirce, Charles Sanders. (2000). Writings of Charles S. Peirce: 1857-1866. Peirce Edition Project. p. 426.  "Innes Attack proved the most devastating. In many of his cases Gurney had referred to corroborating evidence from contemporary documents, such as postmarked letters. Innes notes that there was no indication in the book that such letters were received and examined by Gurney and his assistants. In his reply to Innes, Gurney could only point to three cases that met Innes's requirements, one of which later turned out to be a fraud."
:[Jerzy shows only the directly involved refs:]
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pretty much bcz my draft tags 
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wouldn't have gone to the heart of the problem.
   I suggest our colleague was uncomfortable with the scholarly apparatus, and set our readers an unfair test of their ability to hold clear the distinction between Wikipedia's voice and that of CS Pierce, by quoting him directly in both the text and the notes. I don't rule out the possibility of a remedy that would split the notes between source citations, and commentary on the body text, but my edit is a try at meeting the need with the simpler structure that in most articles suffices.--Jerzy•t 10:25, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gurney/Innes(/Peirce) 

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