Talk:Gustaf Fröding

message: I found the following translation of the same poem in an Anthology of Swedish Lyrics published by the American-Scandinavian Foundation in 1930. Translations "in the original meters" by Charls Wharton Stork.
=== A LOVE-SONG ===
 I purchased my love for money,
   Else ne'er had I known its might;
 No less did I sing to the gay harp-string
   Right sweetly of love's delight.
 
 A dream, though it soon be vanished,
   Is sweet when it answers our will;
 And Eden to him who is banished
   Is beauteous Eden still.
This is much less literal than the one in the main article, and I don't care much for its inventions. But the last two lines are well rendered IMO.  --CodeGeneratR (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Translating poetry is usually an impossible mission. The fact that it lacks much of what makes the original poem one of the most cited in Swedish literature doesn't mean it's a bad translation, unfortunately. /Julle (talk) 21:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translated poem 

message: I purchased my love for money,
   Else ne'er had I known its might;
 No less did I sing to the gay harp-string
   Right sweetly of love's delight.
 
 A dream, though it soon be vanished,
   Is sweet when it answers our will;
 And Eden to him who is banished
   Is beauteous Eden still.
This is much less literal than the one in the main article, and I don't care much for its inventions. But the last two lines are well rendered IMO.  --CodeGeneratR (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A LOVE-SONG 

message: Den drömmen, som aldrig besannats,
som dröm var den vacker att få,
för den, som ur Eden förbannats,
är Eden ett Eden ändå.
For the dream, though the truth were vanished,
Was the princeliest dream I could get,
And for him who from Eden is banished
Is Eden an Eden yet.
I am not a professional translator, but I am a native speaker of the swedish language. Isn't it weird to translate "Den drömmen, som aldrig besannats" into "For the dream, though the truth were vanished"? It sounds like a too literal translation. I would believe that it would explain it better with "The dream, who never came true, as a dream it was beautiful to receive" rather than the princeliest & vanished words in the proper translation. This can't be changed of course, it would be original research, but I put this here, in case someone else is thinking about the same thing as me.
130.243.158.185 (talk) 15:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Translating poetry is usually an impossible mission. The fact that it lacks much of what makes the original poem one of the most cited in Swedish literature doesn't mean it's a bad translation, unfortunately. /Julle (talk) 21:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird translation? 

message: Under sickness it states  During the first half of 1990 he spent a couple of years at ....
I presume it should be  1890 since he lived August 22, 1860 - February 8, 1911)''
Gaby (interested reader)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.175.188 (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  incorrect dates 

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message: This article seems to deal more with Ida Bäckman than with Gustaf Fröding. I think that part should be cut out altogether, it doesn't belong. /Jan Wiklund  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jan Wiklund (talk • contribs) 06:31, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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