Talk:Aspartame controversy

message: @AndyTheGrump
The navboxes have long included a variety of topics related to alternative medicine, including general controversies, purported poisons, or related people. Altanner1991 (talk) 13:52, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly. However, given that Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, inclusion of an 'alternate medicine' navbox in an article on aspartame would seem to require a better justification than that. Can you point to sources that describe aspartame as an 'alternative medicine'? AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:10, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you then also suggest the removal of Big Pharma conspiracy theories, Oral polio vaccine AIDS hypothesis, Vaccines and autism, MMR vaccine and autism, and GMO conspiracy theories from Template:Alternative medicine sidebar? Because like Aspartame controversy, those articles also don't directly mention "alternative medicine", per-se. Altanner1991 (talk) 14:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest you answer the question I actually asked. Citing external WP:RS sources that describe aspartame as 'alternate medicine'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are a couple:  Altanner1991 (talk) 14:47, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked for WP:RS sources stating that aspartame is an alternative medicine. As far as I can see, neither of the sources you cite states anything of the sort, instead (correctly) describing it as an artificial sweetener. I also doubt either would meet WP:RS criteria anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you misunderstand: the Aspartame controversy is about aspartame being called a poison by alternative medicine practitioners. I also don't see why those sources would fail WP:RS. Altanner1991 (talk) 15:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is (amongst other things) about aspartame being called a poison by conspiracy theorists. Some may well be alternative medicine practitioners, a great many clearly weren't. And I'm sure, given the scope of 'alternative medicine', there are practitioners who have no opinion about aspartame, one way or another. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's reasonable; so it will stay with conspiracy theories but not alternative medicine. Altanner1991 (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Comment: WP considers (at least atm) altmed and Pseudomedicine to be pretty much the same, so vaccine stuff fits pretty well IMO. Aspartame is less obvious, I think, afaik it isn't used to treat patients. In the past there have been discussions at Chemtrails that concluded that the sidebar didn't fit there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well in this case vaccine hesitancy and aspartame controversy are both recommended by alternative medicine practitioners, so the topics should equally qualify for the navboxes. Altanner1991 (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

text: This is the talk page for the aspartame article, not the alternate medicine navbox. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal from the alternative medicine navbox 

message: here is an interesting link.   
https://www.endalldisease.com/aspartame-linked-to-leukemia-lymphoma-in-groundbreaking-study/ Claustro123 (talk) 17:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing remotely relevant to article content: see WP:MEDRS. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  new link