Talk:Lists of Coronation Street characters

message: After November or December 2007, when Vera leaves, she will continue to make appearances on the show which will class her as a recurring character, however, please do not move her page on here, just leave a link to Vera's page when she is added to the recurring section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.220.176 (talk) 22:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vera Duckworth as a recurring character

message: I just (check the timestamp in my signature) merged quite a few characters into the list per the Afd debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Dent. James086Talk | Email 12:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent merges 

message: Why are they in here? They've had a Fair amount of scenes (At least Jerry, Mel and Darryl) to be considered prominent? Conquistador2k6 5 December 2007 10:20 (UTC)
:They were included in the AfD to be merged. Personally, I would have been quite happy to allow them to keep their main articles, but I couldn't think of a good enough reason why in their case. You should have inputted on the AfD if you had a problem with that. Bungle (talk • contribs) 12:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't mind if the current Morton family (except Finlay Bryant) were given their own pages back again. Most now do have their own histories and I assume more will come in the near future, and currently they're starting to clog up the recurring/minor article. Bungle (talk • contribs) 14:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morton Family 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Lauren Wilson.jpg

message: Hiya, some may already be aware of this, but we now have to link to the name of each article an image is being used in on the image's 'Fair use rationale'. 
I realise that this page has been merged recently, and images I uploaded were obviously merged too. This isn't a problem, however the image FUR needs to be updated when they are merged/unmerged. For instance, Wiki's FUR currently says that the image is 'fair use' in "Wiki Dankowska", when it should now read that it's fair use in "List of recurring and minor Coronation Street characters". 
If the FURs are not changed, then the annoying BetacommandBot comes along and tags all of them for deletion per WP:NFCC. Some of these characters have been merged and unmerged several times over the last few months. Each time the image has been tagged for deletion because the FUR hasnt been altered, and if I dont notice then they get deleted. I'm not a regular corrie viewer or editor, and I dont really keep track of corrie pages (I edit Eastenders articles mostly, and just add images for corrie when I can). I will go ahead and change the image FURs now, but if these characters get unmerged again in the future, could you also change the image FUR too? It would be greatly appreciated :) Gungadin♦ 02:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image FURs 

message: Anyone know why she's listed here and also has her own page. Wasn't it decided that she had to stay on the list? Gungadin 00:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wiki Dankowska]] 

message: The old character of Scooter appears on this page now, he left around 3 years ago now, why is he on the list if it is for current characters.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raintheone (talk • contribs) 02:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scooter 

message: What's going on with this character? He keeps getting added to the list, then given his own page, but currently he redirects here but is not included on the list, and so his image is orphaned and up for deletion. Should he be on this list, or have his own page? I dont care either way, but if we can make a decision, we will know to revert if he's moved/merged again. Gungadin 19:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's creating all this fuss, I say just give him his own page and let it be. He's hardly a "minor" character (regardless of current duration), and if it stops this stupid revert and redo nonsense then let it be at that. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, i'll find out who last redirected it and tell them what's been decided.Gungadin 21:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You realize that it doesn't matter how important the character is in the show, right? WP:N says "significant coverage from multiple reliable sources".  I'm perfectly willing to have an article on Jerry if he meets that criterion. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found a few  that can be used Talk:Jerry Morton#Sources. If anyone can find anymore, please post them there. Gungadin 22:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jerry Morton]] 

message: John Stape is still on the list yet he has left the soap opera. Ivor Preistly doesn't look like he's back any time soon either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raintheone (talk • contribs) 07:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Should I remove John then? And Goerge Trench and Ivor Preistly? Raintheone (talk) 22:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of date page now 

message: I suggest that there be NO compacttoc, as Chris the master and Frickative had an edit war over this, i feel the compacttoc should be removed.  (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killerboyratz (talk • contribs) 17:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's Manual of Style agrees that the number of headings previously created an excessively lengthy TOC. As an aside, have you read WP:SOCK? I do believe you could have several, if not all of your accounts blocked for deceptive editing :) Frickative 17:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compacttoc uses 

message: I know they aren't exactly the stars of the show (and Jerry's leaving soon), but they've both been pushed into a much more central role in the past few months, and that seems likely to continue with Tony for the foreseeable future. Are they still recurring or minor characters? --JamesB3 (talk) 05:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tony Gordon, Jerry Morton

message: When was the last time Kelly had any story of her own, or made more than a few appearances a month? Does she still count as a main character? --JamesB3 (talk) 06:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the sense of complete removal from the wiki or own article? Personally, I still think the character is too insignificant to warrant an individual article, but there is sufficient history there to warrant wikipedia inclusion. Probably best left as it is. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kelly Crabtree

message: I'm not sure Whether to have a past characters who were minor or not, what do you think, Coroguy. (UTC)
:I think that could be a good idea. There are some characters who had their pages redirected, like Penny King, who might fit in better on a past minor characters page. There are also a number of characters currently recurring and minor who are leaving soon and have to be put somewhere when they're gone. --JamesB3 (talk) 01:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does there need to be a past recurring and minor characters list? 

message: It has been suggested that the article Clarissa Mason be merged into this article.
Dodgechris (UTC)
:I definitely think Clarissa should be merged back in here. I think Teresa Bryant should be also, as well as Kayleigh Morton. The characters just aren't notable enough from a real-world perspective to necessitate individual articles. Frickative 13:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe Clarissa and Teresa should be merged back in here, but i think Kayleigh has developed more real world content recently?
Dodgechris (UTC)
Can you find any significant coverage in reliable secondary sources discussing the character? A brief Google news search pulls up 3 hits total, all of which are more about Chesney, and trivial in content. Frickative 15:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarissa Mason

message: Do you think that Jimmy Dockerson should be merged into this article? -- User:Dodgechris (talk) (UTC)
:Minor characters, as agreed some time back, initially go to the minor characters article, until either a substantial character history can be writen, or their duration on the show is of reasonable length; this character isn't an exception in my opinion, and thus should not yet have their own article. Bungle (talk • contribs) 07:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging Jimmy Dockerson 

message: The characters Kirk Sutherland, Molly Compton, Kelly Crabtree, Vernon Tomlin, Chesney Battersby-Brown, Dev Alahan, Carla Connor, Becky Granger, Tina McIntyre, Harry Mason and Dan Mason have all been nominated for deletion, but it is so far unclear whether they should be merged with this article. -- Dodgechris (talk) (UTC)
:Some of those characters drive major story (Becky, Carla). I don't think they should be merged with recurring. Dev has also had major stories in the past and is about to start another story. I'm not sure why they were nominated. Maybe something should be put in their articles to prove they're important characters? Like all the hoopla over Becky being the Rover's 50th barmaid. --JamesB3 (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While all the listed articles have room for improvement (further referencing, more out-of-universe content, clearer assertions of notability), Dodgechris appears to have attempted to withdraw his AfD nomination, and has since been indefinitely blocked for abusive editing anyway, so it's not an immediate concern. Agreed that they should not be merged. Frickative 22:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for letting me know. Now that it's not immediate, you're right, we can look over the pages with more time. On the topic of Kelly Crabtree, I think I was the one who thought she should be moved to recurring, because she hasn't had anything major to do in some time. If people feel she should be moved back to a main character page, I understand. --JamesB3 (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think most should be left. On the subject of Kelly, if we can find references and notability she should be kept as in the past she has been central to her own storylines and has been in the show a few years now. Just a case of improving the article.Raintheone (talk) 23:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I would vote to delete the profile if unseen again. There is no real history and nothing meaningful to write about. An encyclopedia is to provide information, and I don't think this character will be worthwhile of an entry. Bungle (talk • contribs) 10:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD debate 

message: She and Dev have already stopped seeing each other. If she doesn't appear again, should she be moved to a past recurring and minor characters page (is there one), or should her profile just be deleted? --JamesB3 (talk) 06:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would vote to delete the profile if unseen again. There is no real history and nothing meaningful to write about. An encyclopedia is to provide information, and I don't think this character will be worthwhile of an entry. Bungle (talk • contribs) 10:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lisa Dalton

message: I am serious, there is a fault on this article, i'm not sure if its just my computer or a fault everywhere, it is completely wierd, please respond quickly! User:Notdoppler  —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh no! 

message: Many characters like Doreen Fenwick and Wilfred Morton STILL on this page, Wilfred has gone, he left the street nearly a year ago now, and Doreen Fenwick will make her 1 year left anniversary in December, but if Doreen is rm, it will mean her img will be deleted. User:Notdoppler 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:Erm, you're the one who merged past and current minor characters into one article. Frickative 11:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's such a problem for you, why did you merge the content of List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters into this article in the first place? Frickative 11:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past characters 

message: Per Wikipedia:NFC#Non-free_image_use_in_list_articles, the fair use images in this article have been removed. For another example where this has been done, see Springfield Elementary School students. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use images removed 

message: The infoboxes on this article are now pointless, without any images we might as well rm all the infoboxes on this article and use family sections for each character, the infobox inormation is already in the characters section anyway (except the family), so i believe they should be removed. User:Notdoppler 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:No. They really shouldn't. Frickative 12:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character infoboxes 

message: I know she is leaving, but I think after the events of recent I could probally make her a seperate page with references. She has been involved in a storyline that is portraying a real problem right now in the UK with that sort of violence. And there is bound to be something about the bad relationship with her mother or maybe the police force story. If I can find it etc, shall I do that? I would obviously do a rewrite and out of universe and that. What do you think? Raintheone (talk) 21:44, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think you can write a decent out of universe article, I say definitely go for it :D I think it's completely arbitrary how it's been decided that Daryl and Teresa necessitate their own articles, but Mel, Kayleigh and Finlay don't... so yup. I've got a couple of TV mags lying around at the moment, and I think one has an interview with whatsherface who plays Teresa, talking about the aftermath of the gang fight with Mel and Abi, and another one with a little snippet from Emma about its effect on Mel, so I'll type those up when I get chance for you to use :) Frickative 21:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now created the article with Casting, Background, Storyline and Reception information. Wrote it in outuniverse. I actually found quite a few references and there is already complaints and outrage over the storyline that aired last night over gang violence, it was reception i had a hard time with though. Uploaded some new images I obtained too. That will be helpful too, the mag interviews.Raintheone (talk) 01:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mel Morton 

message: I really don't think that Ryan's article should have been merged here, looking at this, the article already had notability, references and sources before, and was involved in a large storyline. Ced 9:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ryan Connor 

message: Does the scope of this page include characters that have been announced but have not yet appeared? Bradley0110 (talk) 10:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future characters 

message: I know Betty's infrequently seen these days, but she's consistently appeared on the show for 40 years and has had a number of stories. Should she be considered recurring or minor? --JamesB3 (talk) 13:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, I don't think she should. She certainly doesn't fall under the minor category, because of the duration she has been on the show, and given she once was seen regularly like most other characters, I don't think the "recurring" classification is all that accurate either. Bungle (talk • contribs) 10:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think someone should try to bring back her former page, and possibly expand it some or include notability?--JamesB3 (talk) 19:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I objected to this merge on the character's talk page. I think the merge should just be reverted, there's clearly no consensus, plus one of the people contributing to the debate at the time was DodgeChris Talk:Betty Williams (Coronation Street). The actress has written a book, so if no other recent sources can be found, that would surely give tons of OOU info to support the article. Annoyingly, the image I uploaded of her has now been deleted, but an admin can bring it back.GunGagdinMoan 22:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Betty Williams

message: I think I can make a full article on Amber, with enough referenced, some casting, reltionships , reception to an extent. storylines will be no problem. I'll do it tomorrow. Raintheone (talk) 01:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made the article and just need to tidy the references up a little. I'll do that when I have time. Plenty of content in it too. Raintheone (talk) 17:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amber Kalirai 

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