Talk:Metra

message: I added categories here for transportation in chicago and transportation in illinois and someone reverted them as redundant to existing category metra.  Am I alone in the opinion that category metra isn't very useful and the other two supliment well?  What do we gain by only using one (obscure) category?  I'm not planning on an edit war so am writing this instead.  Tedernst 02:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree completely with the above. If there are no objections in the next week, I'm going to change it back. L Glidewell 15:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cats added

message: I was down there today and Metra is calling it Millenium station now. I would change it but I'm still not completely sure. Avalanche Knight 00:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called Millennium Station on the time schedules and stuff, but the conductors almost always call it out as "Randolph/South Water." L Glidewell 15:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Randolph street station

message: I broke up the News heading into News and Accidents.  All of those events should be here in Wikipedia somewhere, although I don't know if they need to be on this page per se, I do know they don't all belong in News so I'm working under the assumption that none of them do (once they stop being news, of course) and that they deserve their own heading.  Any thoughts?  Gws57 22:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry if I caused any confusion.  My main objective was to change the references to inline citations and attach them to the relevant bullet point, not necessarily the sentence.  As the references had no urls I could use to review the facts, I didn't know that last sentence was unsubstantiated.  Feel free to move the references as you deem fit and accurate. --Millbrooky 17:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I appreciate your edit. I moved the inline citations, see how it looks to you. The last sentence about the lawsuit doesn't really seem to fit, maybe it should be deleted? I do share Gws57's concern that the accident section is getting huge. That particular incident, however, has taken on a life of its own on the Internet, with inaccuracies. I felt it best to have Wikipedia nail it down with facts. For what it's worth, the Downer's Grove public library mailed me photocopies of the 2 citations, they are not online, at least not for free. Zzorse 17:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accidents

message: I think I speak for the general Wikipedia reader when I say, what in the world is a "BNSF 'Racetrack' express train"? —Rob (talk) 12:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the BNSF Railway Line article. The "Racetrack" is referred to express trains along the center track, traveling at high speeds. Calwatch 02:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Define "express train" 

message: Okay... I want to see Metra service expanded as much as the next commuter.  But uncited "plans" to expand to Milwaukee, Rockford, DeKalb or other places do not belong in an encylopedic article.  I added citations to Metra press releases for the legitimate plans for expansion, but the others need to go away until we can come up with credible sources for them. Gws57 23:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that Racine, WI has fixed up their old C&NW station in anticipation of an extension. Has that officially been announced? --MasterA113 13:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion

message: I propose that we remove the links which point solely to years. We should retain links to full dates as long as that is how the wiki software recognizes date preferences. MKoltnow 03:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, as it makes articles easier to read, as unnecessary links break the flow of the article.  I also think that it's more or less becoming consensus throughout the Wikipedia to delink years unless necessary to establish context, which most of these aren't.Gws57 14:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  linked full dates vs. linked years 

message: I think we should revert to keeping the current event tag in this section. It refers to the last paragraph--where police are still investigating the cause of the accident of 2006-10-25. Until we rewrite this graf with new info, it should have a current event tag. MKoltnow 19:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accidents current event tag 

message: I've only seen the 553 club car recently. Is 555 still running out there? --MasterA113 13:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are both 553 and 555 still running? 

message: This bit of trivia is not particularly significant, and it is not really about Metra, per se. It is something about Downers Grove. I think it should go away. Trivia sections are not a good idea, in general. I will respect consensus, of course, but will endeavour to make this change by 16 April 2007. MKoltnow 19:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Trivia Section, Downers Grove reference 

message: There is a Metra accident mentioned on this page, Rachel Barton Pine. Whether it's worth including on the Metra page I'll leave up to others to decide. Zzorse 03:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable accident?

message: The titles of articles for the Metra lines with cardinal directions (e.g., North or East) in their names use a "slash" between the direction and the word preceding it. For example, the Union Pacific North line is rendered "Union Pacific/North". Why is this? The website doesn't print the line names that way. -Rrius (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When the sub-articles were created, the slash was used in the name of the lines on the written public timetables.  This remains the case. I understand the confusion, but tend to think that the printed timetables supercede what is published on the internet. Gws57 (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can hardly see how the train schedules would be the be-all, end-all. I should think other, less utilitarian examples would shed more light. That is to say, there are reasons why the train schedules might use eccentric formatting. I fail to see why Metra's website would be other than a reliable means of judging how the names of Metra lines are formatted. If the front page is not enough, how about the press releases? In this release, Metra refers to the "Union Pacific North Line"; Wikipedia would refer to it as the "Union Pacific/North Line". Where the subject of the article uses a normal, unpunctuated form in standard text, why would we use some other form because they use a variant for the title of a small booklet? -Rrius (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I personally don't care enough about the naming rubric of the articles to stand in the way of a mass change one way or another.  I was just answering the question as posed, and explaining why I thought it had been organized the way it was. Gws57 (talk) 02:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of Metra Articles 

message: This route map is WRONG. Believe me, ive been using metra for quite a while. Check out the Metra website if you dont believe me.
One example is: North Central Service leaves at Union station NOT Ogilvie
Please replace the image or remove it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.243.244 (talk) 02:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate route-map image 

message: Should the policy from Metra's website (which can be dumbed down to "No children 7 or under are permitted to board the Metra train without parental supervision") be included on the article? Of course, my dumbed down version obviously could do a little NPOV, but it is notable and should be included. 98.226.32.129 (talk) 08:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children Policy/Other major polices 

message: I have removed the :es:Metra links from :de:METRA and :fr:Metra, (and previously removed them here) and removed links to the French, German and English versions of this page from :es:Metra, as the Spanish Language article has a completely different, non-railroad, subject. Hopefully this will help prevent erroneous Bot inter-wiki additions to this article. Wuhwuzdat (talk) 13:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign language versions 

message: Would a mention of Metra's code of conduct be appropriate?  I personally appreciate Metra's stance on language and disruptive behavior onboard and believe that this is a positive that sets it apart from the CTA.  Lonelymiesarchie (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code of Conduct 

message: I trying to tie all of the Metra pages into one easily navigable spot instead of just showing Metra lines. Anyone like this more or less than the current navbox? Suggestions? Only have one section for "lines" with two subsections (current and proposed)? Do nothing? OMGWTFBBQ? Lost on Belmont (talk) 22:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure the accidents listed under "other" need be there, but incorporating the links to the fleet isn't a bad addition. Should try to squeeze in the gallery cars, as all Metra lines (outside the ME) use 'em, and they originated in Chicago. There's a section on them here. I agree that terminals would be a good addition. Host/provider railroads might start getting a bit crowded, and are linked through the individual line articles anyway. (And, thanks to some not so creative names, are obvious for at least some lines).oknazevad (talk) 00:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Metra navigation box? 

message: Totally dig the rewrite. Made a couple of tweaks (which I explained in my edit summaries), but I have a quick thought. I don't think we need the header paragraph under "Service". It's a bit too HOWTO for my liking (that it's sourced to Metra's "how to" riders' guide reinforces that). But more importantly, the process it describes is the same for every commuter rail system I've even seen. As such, it seems too definitional, for lack of a better word, than is appropriate for this article. This article doesn't exist to define commuter rail; the already linked commuter rail article exists to describe the characteristics that make it commuter rail. So I think it can be safely removed. oknazevad (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good.  Yea I wasn't quite done with the rewrite but based on todays events I figured I should go ahead with what was ready on the improvements.  Thanks for the tweaks.  I also agree on the service.  During my writing it was supposed to be somewhere else, got kinda rewritten and then now its just disjointed.  I'll take a deeper look at this again soon too, but I'm glad its up ready for edits.  Thanks again! DR04 (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, thank you for the hard work! I took out the paragraph, and there's been a few more routine tweaks, which says to me the page is now at a normal state, which is good. Thanks again! oknazevad (talk) 02:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Couple of tweaks 

message: I've rewritten the Incidents section.  I've altered the focus to a more aggregate perspective.  I've included only disasters and statistics.  Also I've written the section in prose - trying to move away from the lists.
I reverted back to not including these individual incidents (unless catastrophic, there are currently 2).  Statistics paint a much better picture and are more notable.  In a list format people were listing every little new incident.  In reality there were 150 or so deaths - so which ones to include?  Why not all?  Others here have commented that those with million dollar lawsuits/settlements or those that have videos used by operation lifesaver are notable.  Perhaps in a list format (ie List of Metra incidents - maybe a link to article?) - but not here.  Why?  Because several of these deaths have involved such lawsuits and operation lifesaver has used several of these incidents in videos.  I fail to see why that makes those individual incidents notable to include on an individual basis for the primary page on of one of the busiest commuter rail networks.  Again, I reassert that Wikipedia is not a memorial or shock site.  Listing individual fatalities does not represent Metra's safety failures as a whole, but stats do.  Several editors have mentioned their feelings that the accidents/incidents section is growing too large.  I attempted to correct this and hopefully the changes encourage more appropriate updates to this topic.  DR04 (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite of Incidents/Accidents 

message: User at 67.188.158.240 keeps changing the Metra station count to 239.  Metra's FAQ page which is literally up to date (html updated as of today) shows a current station count of 241.  I've updated the reference, included that reference and updated the page.  If this continues to be changed this user should be reported.  I've already placed a warning on the editor's talk page to not continuously revert without references. DR04 (talk) 21:52, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Count of Metra stations 

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message: This article states that Metra is currently planning two new routes, but this information seems outdated. One of the proposed routes, the Suburban Transit Access Route, is not a serious proposal (or even a proposal at all) anymore, according to the article. The other, the SouthEast Service, has a very outdated article. I don't think that either routes are proposals anymore. I think this article (and the two other articles) should be updated to reflect this, but I would rather leave this up to an editor who is more knowledgable on this specific subject. --1990'sguy (talk) 18:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planned routes --> Not anymore (?) 

message: Metra's website was recently redone, and because of that, pretty every ref sourced to Metra's website has been broken. Either a bot will archive these refs, or we could find new refs on the new website or others. Just a note. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Every ref accessed before June 29, 2016, I believe, to be more specific (). --1990'sguy (talk) 21:16, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metra's website - broken refs 

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replies: text: All work! --1990'sguy (talk) 04:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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message: Just now, I split "Corruption" off into its own section, added the Don Udstuen-Roger Stanley scandal, and added a bunch of citations.  Acwilson9 (talk) 02:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: (BTW, I personally know, but cannot currently document, that many Metra employees, all over the organization, were unhappy about the political scandals (which got in the way of doing good work), and were happier with the more meritocratic administration of both the recent Boards and recent CEO Don Orseno.  It helped that Orseno was mostly well-liked, respected, and successful in his various previous on-train and management jobs in Metra's Operations.  I myself, a former Metra bureaucrat, did not know him well, but occasionally crossed paths with him in meetings. Orseno retired in Dec. 2017, leaving "big shoes" to fill, IMO, for new CEO James M. Derwinski, who, like Orseno, is a capable veteran of Metra Operations.  Also IMO, most Metra employees took, and take, great pride in running a good efficient railroad and public service, contradicting the stereotype, if not the reality, of government bureaucracies.) Acwilson9 (talk) 03:11, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corruption 

message: most stations have been taken over by the city's they are in, metra has no money, has sold not only it's stations
and it's parking lots too.
50.254.21.211 (talk) 00:08, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  is responsible for all stations along with the respective municipalities 

message: The disputed source doesn't say who the builder was going to be. The Highliner article is effectively unsourced. Mackensen (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highliner II builder 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
would it be possible for a more up to date header picture such as one of the recently rebuilt F40PH-3s? I feel like the F59PHI isn’t so fitting now considering Metra is entirely rebuilding most of their fleet. 
thanks! Railfan 124 (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New header picture