Talk:Navajo Wars

message: It would be useful if commenters gave date and name --Rcollman 15:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: ::WIKIPEDIA: The Navajo Wars were fought during the nineteenth century between the U.S. military and many western tribes. 
A RESPONSE: This is a rediculous "generalization." First: There was only ONE Navajo war that the U. S. military was involved with, and it began on Sept. 2, 1847 when "The Santa Fe Battalion started today on an expedition into the Navajo country, these Indians having violated their treaty with Col. Doniphan by their robberies of the Mexicans." (Navajo Wars, by Frank McNitt, p124). On Apr. 13, 1964 Kit Carson wrote that "since active hostitlites have ceased against the Navajos." (Kit Carson and the Indians, by Tom Dunlay, p. 306). Yes, there were some relatively peaceful interludes between 1847 and 1864, and yes the war picked up in 1863-64, but it was ONE war.
RC on WAR: if battles are wars then there were many.   If a treaty concludes a war then there were many wars. If there was one attempt at subjunction of a people, then there was one war.  However, I have trouble with the assumption that the war(s) started with the US military. Technically the fights between the Navajo and non-native americans started with the Spain, which were inherited by Mexico for a few years and then inherited by the US.  The civilian non-native american population were often involved in fights with the Navajo both as individuals, militia, or what in contemporary america we call gangs.--Rcollman 15:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro: Who, What, When 

message: RC: If we can say Navajo Wars is really a subject that should be called non-native american "Wars against the Navajos", then we need to talk about the Spanish.   The Spanish contacted the Apaches and Navajo in the mid to late 1500s. The Spanish were interested in slaves and booty/tribute . There was also a religious motivation or justification for the Spainish.  The Spanish introduced things into the such as sheep and horses, weaving and perhaps metal smithing which also had profound impacts upon the native american culture. After a while, the Spanish and Navajo were fighting over horses and sheep and the taking of slaves and grain. The Spanish essentially had expeditions against the Navajo from say 1600 to around 1821, when the Mexicans became independent and continued for another 30 years.  From my viewpoint if these groups were not seeking slaves and tribute, they were trying to strike back at a people who they believed raided them for booty, roughly 300 years of this kind of "wars".   --Rcollman 18:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: And what about the Spainish and Mexicans?

message: Good job, whoever deleted the thing about the Mohawk from the article. I'm moving the question about it here to unclutter the legitimate question about the spanish and mexicans.
:Errr... the Navajo beat the MOHAWK in a large battle in 1852.  Excuse me?
:References please?  Location? 
:Alan
:66.109.148.169 00:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know somebody out there doesn't get it so I will explain. The Mohawk live on the other side of North America, along the St Lawrence Seaway for instance. Elinruby (talk) 06:22, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  best laugh of the week 

message: I deleted the sentence which stated this as a fact. Show me a cite that is not from a newspaper or pulp novel. There were Navajo who did not go to Ft. Sumner as part of the Long Walk.  I have read accounts of Navajos trading with some Apache bands but never mention of  "Navajo warriors" who joined up with an Apache band.  There were ties between Victorio's Mimbres band and Mariana, one of the influential Navajo leaders who lived in checkerboard area. Rcollman (talk) 22:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Navajo "warriors" did not join "renegade Apaches" during the Long Walk Period into the 1880s 

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