Talk:Fast & Furious

message: Hi guys, I am going to delete the profit column. Profit is not gross - budget. That would not include costs such as marketing + distribution. Also gross does not include DVD/Blu-ray revenue as well. Because of this, profit is completely erroneous. I'll do the changes in a few days. If anyone objects, speak up. Yialanliu (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Profit

message: Nice article. Good job. I'm just wondering, shouldn't it be named "The Fast and the Furious (series)"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrStalker (talk • contribs) 21:05, February 8, 2008
:Thanks, I've considered doing this since it kept popping up at AFD, so I figured this would be a fairly acceptable substitute, no matter how the fourth film's article proceeds.  I'm not sure about the use of parentheses, though.  I don't think there is a standard.  While there is Spider-Man film series, Batman film series, and Superman film series, there's also Pirates of the Caribbean (film series).  Do you have any substantive opinion about why parentheses should be used?  I think that both capture the general idea, though I guess I would prefer no parentheses because for examples like Batman and Superman, we don't call the overall series Batman or Superman.  I think we've avoided calling them "Batman films" or "Superman films" because there are other films related to it, especially animated ones.  For this film, there's a 1955 film, but it's not connected to the 21st century ones. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the only thing I could find about is this, which says it should be named "Film Title (film series)". I don't know if the parentheses matters so much though, but if you follow the guideline by word I guess the article should be named "The Fast and the Furious (film series)". At WP:VG, where I do most of my contributions, we say that the disabmig. always should be as short as possible, hence just the "(series)". But that's our guideline so per WP:FILM it should be "(film series)". --MrStalker (talk) 09:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My last point to make is if we actually reference the article itself in another article, we have to rewrite in the piped link to exclude parentheses.  (Though I guess we could call it "the film series The Fast and the Furious...)  Feel free to make the move with the naming conventions.  Perhaps the other ones need addressing; I've just been accustomed to that setup, so I emulated it here. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's probably best to follow WP:NCF. Page moved. --MrStalker (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming

message: Also, I'm not sure about using  in the article, as it's technically not an upcoming film.  It's a project in development with people figuring out what resources and how much of it to invest at this point.  There are quite a few films that have been in development for quite some time, yet they can't truly be called "upcoming" as they don't get across the threshold to actually be made.  Couple of examples off the top of my head are Logan's Run (2010 film) and Fahrenheit 451 (2009 film). —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I'll remove the template. --MrStalker (talk) 15:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future film 

message: i changes the name in the characters section from 5 fast 5 furious there is no official source stating that this is the name
until there is an official source about the name it has been changed to unnamed sequal  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diesal 11 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The source does say Fast XI, but they are referencing Diesels instagram post, which does NOT say that (it just confirms that the next film is the final one). So the source is extrapolating without cause. Rcarter555 (talk) 20:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequal name 

message: Tokyo Drift would have to be the last movie because Han's character will be present in Fast Five.
JBLING316 (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  CHRONOLOGY 

message: Can people interested in the franchise please come to Template talk:The Fast and the Furious and discuss the appropriateness or inappropriateness of a link to Better Luck Tomorrow in that navbox?Thank you, Amalthea 08:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better Luck Tomorrow 

message: Has anyone considered the possibility that Tokyo Drift actually takes place not AFTER Fast and Furious, but DURING it?  It would play out like this:  The opening of Fast and Furious, with Dom, Han and crew are hijacking the fuel tankers.  After they all split up, there is an undefined period of time until we rejoin Dom in Panama City.  Who's to say that he wasn't roaming the world during this undefined time, and that the events of Tokyo Drift take place during this interval in the film?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.158.127 (talk) 18:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology 

message: It is mentioned in the section "Film Series in Chronological Order" that the films are not shown in order by release date, but how events actually occurred. This is false. The films are discussed in order of release date. Which one should be edited?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.160.63.107 (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of Films 

message: About the disambiguation page of the films, on the disambiguation the 2013 movie is not yet referenced but here it is, its somewhat confusing. And since I never joined any wiki projects, I have no idea how to bring it to the disambiguation projects attention. < The Fast Saga < Jasperwillem (talk) 03:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: Is there a source that he is returning for the seventh movie? DanielDPeterson (talk) 20:11, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucas Black 

message: This section reads exactly like the studio promo material. Can we clean this up so this doesn't look like a marketing department got in here? Blackfyr (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The section was indeed plagiarized straight from the promotional material. I've removed the paragraphs. They can be restored if the details can be recapped in a neutral tone per WP:NPOV and with an inline citation. Erik (talk | contribs) 21:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  F&F6 

message: Are we sure that 2 Fast 2 Furious takes place before Fast and Furious and Fast Five?  It doesnt make too much sense for Brian to be an agent, not be an agent and start a garage and then be a federal agent again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.192.18 (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology 

message: The chart indicates that Michelle Rodriguez was in Fast Five. This is complete stretch. She appeared in a photograph that was in the film. She wasn't actually in the movie. ask123 (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Michelle Rodriguez

message: What is the source for this? 81.152.238.46 (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ian Sahw" as the main villain 

message: I can not find the name VINCE in the character table
and also HAN, i think he did not showed up in Fast and Furious (4th movie)
202.147.198.243 (talk) 09:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince and Han 

message: Sorry, I was wrong
Han did appear at the beginning of Fast and Furious (4th)
202.147.198.243 (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Han character 

message: It's a little confusing to users since the first film was titled "The Fast and the Furious", I think it needs the "(franchise)" for clarification. Lady Lotus • talk 15:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fast and the Furious (franchise) already redirects here, so anyone searching for that title will find this page. I have now specified in the lede that the first film was also titled The Fast and the Furious to avoid confusion, but since there is a 1955 film titled The Fast and the Furious, the 2001 film can not sit at this title unless it is established to be the primary topic of the term, over and above the franchise as a whole. bd2412 T 15:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fast and the Furious (franchise) 

message: I would like to revisit this discussion that fizzled out/went nowhere. The article isn't the guaranteed to be the article that a user is always looking for when they search "Fast & Furious" (given the fact that there are other releases with similar titles). Yes, I can see that there was some work done to make some distinction, but I don't know that it was enough. In reality, this article may need a Fast & Furious (franchise) title, meanwhile the 2001 film and the 1955 film's can have the specifications of their respective years and that they're films (as-is). This page should be considered for a more specific title.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisit

message: QUOTE: 'He'd want you to know first': Vin Diesel announces release date for Fast & Furious 7 as he posts a picture of his final scene with Paul Walker
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 23:41 EST, 22 December 2013 | UPDATED: 07:17 EST, 23 December 2013 UNQUOTE
*http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2528235/Vin-Diesel-announces-release-date-Fast-Furious-7-posts-picture-final-scene-Paul-Walker.html
His younger brother may fill in (distant shots). -- FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another ref to Fast & Furious (7) Movie for 2015 

message: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=125147
Looks like there will be three more films. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 18:11, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The future of this franchise looks bright 

message: A guy named "BieberLover" made a pretty complex edit early in January this year that deleted the section on the future of the franchise. Was this vandalism, or was it done for a reason? 2601:C:A780:C8C:BC16:79A9:8354:33D2 (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno... it was done by some ip user who made several nuisance edits. I have replaced the content that was blanked. Hopefully some page followers will review it and determine what should remain, (and hopefully add to it). -  theWOLFchild 05:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the "Future" section removed? 

message: Shouldn't the films'Oldspring (talk) 23:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings 

message: Please add the semi lock
122.62.42.99 (talk) 03:18, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:06, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2016 

message: Right now the in-world chronology is numbered, while the release chronology has dates. I'd say that it should rather be like vice versa. As movies are usually numbered by release order, but their internal chronology has more to do with the dates of their story. 178.48.52.73 (talk) 07:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be pointless. The reason why the "story chronology" table is there is to show the in-world chronology. What would be the point of showing them in order of release date in a "story chronology" table if the release dates are already there to serve that purpose? 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 09:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology format 

message: The original title is Furious 6. I just saw the movie and it was called Furious 6 in the opening. We should change it.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 13:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fast & Furious 6 name change 

message: Somebody should add Rocket League DLC to Video games section. They were a part The Fate of the Furious promotion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.101.212.156 (talk) 17:19, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rocket League DLC 

message: So, I see that in the box-office performance section, periods are used to separate digits in large numbers, but sometimes, commas are employed as well. Shouldn't we use commas, since this is an American franchise? Packer1028 (talk) 22:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Box office performance" numbers 

message: Add to the record that the Fast and Furious series will be making 'Fast and Furious 9' in Thailand. Thailand has been under a dictatorship for over five years. With a fraud election, now the Dictator and his cronies stay on longer. During the past years nearly a dozen Thais have been murdered in custody or by killers hired by the Thai dictator and royal family. The evidence is all over the Internet. Besides that hundreds of people have been charged with archaic lese majeste laws which related to criticism of the royal family. College students, including film and arts majors have been jailed for years due to these laws. Those making the Fast and Furious may find some freedom in Thailand but Thais themselves do not have that freedom. Let this willingness to work in a dictatorship and under fascism by those involved in the Fast And Furious Production by on the record. While you have your freedom to be creative, those in Thailand live in fear of being jailed just for posting the truth online! 
NaturalEquality (talk) 03:57, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fast and Furious Producers Ignore Human Rights abuses and dictatorships 

message: There is already an article for the ninth film, so I think an article for the 10th and final film should be made. Thank you. 2601:205:4100:CB5B:8D6C:665C:4BF0:81C5 (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft for tenth film 

message: Some of the editors on this page have separated the film table in this article by 'main films' and 'spin-offs'. This is in no-way an official term, while in-turn continues to further make this article closer to fan-page territory. I have attempted reverting the edits to previous drafts, but the persistent edits continue. What is everyone's thoughts? My argument is regardless of when/how the film was released, they need to be listed in order of their releases.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. The spin-off distinction is unnecessary, unhelpful even, they are all part of a series. Keeping the whole series together provides a better more coherent overview. Glad to see the article is not currently suffering from that problem. -- 109.79.81.162 (talk) 21:05, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film division on this article 

message: It's been some time since I first pointed this out, but the errors seem to continue. There are editors who persist that dividing up the "Film" section by arbitrary sub-sections of "The Fast Saga" and "Spin-off films" is the best layout. My reason for bring this forward yet again, is the fact that they are all movies within the franchise. Having them divided in these sectionings doesn't do much of the reader. A better approach would be to mention the mainline films and the spin-offs in pros.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:46, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-opening discussion

message: Interesting article from Variety.com about Diesel battling for but not getting Producer credit. Might be worth included as background information to the franchise. -- 109.79.81.162 (talk) 21:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producer 

message: Never seen it before now but there was a parody mashup trailer called Fast to the Future. IGN made it in 2015 as an April fools joke. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere in the article? -- 109.77.193.6 (talk) 04:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Although, this is funny and probably was a big deal when it came out (though I don't remember it)... does it warrant being in this article? For example, who was it made by? Was it an online prank from a fan, or was it a prank from the film studios? Cheers m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fast to the Future 

message: Given the fact that the filmmaker and star have both stated that this is the character Han's "origin story", as well as the fact that they have stated this is the same character that appears in the F&F films... why is it only mentioned separately in the development section? Shouldn't it warrant being listed in the "Films" section, instead? What are the arguments against this?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: My argument would be that because Better Luck Tomorrow is not a Universal film and since Universal owns the franchise, any film not produced by them would not be considered an official part of the franchise, no matter the intention of the director and star of the film. Until someone from Universal remarks that the film is part of the continuity, I think it needs to remain separate as an interesting anecdote, but nothing more. Rcarter555 (talk) 07:09, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Better Luck Tomorrow'' 

message: Hi can someone please tell me why my edit was reverted? It doesn't really have to be a national movie with some of the same characters from the series to be considered a spin-off movie. Foreign remakes can also be considered spin-off movies. Take a look at this example: Step Up (franchise). There's a Chinese remake of this American film series named Step Up: Year of the Dance. It's a Chinese remake that doesn't have anything to do with the American films, but it's still considered a spin-off movie. Karamellpudding1999 (talk) 07:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Because there is no source indicating that these are spin off films, even unofficial ones. Just because they have a similar theme and plot does not make them a spin off. The Step Up film you mentioned is by the same producers as the American films and is an official spin off.  Rcarter555 (talk) 08:23, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted edit about foreign spin-off movies 

message: The redirect Untitled Fast & Furious sequel has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Steel1943 (talk) 07:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Untitled Fast & Furious sequel]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: I think mentioning ""Racer X" by Ken Li" in the lead and especially in the infobox is WP:UNDUE. It is (maybe) worth mentioning in the lead for the 2001 film's article, and tables/subsections for the 2001 film here, but to bother linking to Vibe magazine and then not mentioning Gary Scott Thompson in the lead, and the nonstandard infobox formatting... The cited article itself says "just about none of Li's original article made it the big screen." 70.163.208.142 (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that mentioning it twice is a bit much, but it would suggest leaving it in the lead paragraph and removing it from the infobox. No matter how much of the article made it into the final film, it is credited as such in the first film (although only Gary Scott Thompson is credited as creator in any subsequent film). Rcarter555 (talk) 01:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the first film began the franchise, is credited as being based on the article, and it (the article) therefore is the origin. Like Jurassic Park; the later films take next to nothing from the books anymore, but the first film was based on the book, and so that is still considered the origin of the franchise. The cited article also mentions Li to have been given a lump sum with the film; in addition, one of the considered titles for the film (and franchise as a whole) was Racer X, after the article. To say it should be kept in the infobox as well as the lead, as it is specifically noted that the franchise would not exist without it, like with Jurassic Park and literally every other franchise page based on a book or article. The real issue here seems to be not mentioning Thompson in the lead as well, so let's do that. Lo Chiamavano (talk) 11:48, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Based on: "Racer X" by Ken Li 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Fast and the Furious (2001 film) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 08:31, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: The source I found says the eleventh film would be titled Fast Xi, but another user said it doesn't say the title of the film. Could you look into the source to see what the title of the final main installment would be? The Media Expert (talk) 20:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled ''[[Fast X]]'' sequel