Talk:Lists of airlines

message: This begins with User:Huaiwei's edit to move Hong Kong and Macao under the PRC , (and Greenland under Denmark  on the list of national airlines). While I don't entirely agree with it, for consistent sake I moved all non-sovereign entities (e.g. Guam, Cayman Islands, Faroe Islands) to their corresponding sovereign States. Comments and opinion are welcome on whether they should be sorted by country (the general sense of the meaning of "country"), or by sovereign States, as it is at the time being. See also talk:list of national airlines#Sorted by sovereign States. — Instantnood 10:15, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Meanwhile if there is any dependent territory which is not generally part of their corresponding sovereign States, please modify it accordingly (e.g. the Cayman Islands is not listed under "United Kingdom" but "Overseas territories of the United Kingdom"). — Instantnood 10:20, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
::The most important thing surely is the ease of finding the country (however you define it). The majority of users wouldn't know how to find a country through its sovereign state, but would expect to see it listed in the area it belongs. Ardfern 19:05, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed most of these edits on this list, except for Hong Kong and Macao, were undone, but grouping under sovereign states is still an ongoing event being done by user:Huaiwei on other lists by countries. — Instantnood 07:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, they should be listed under their soverign state, with a heading for the country/area itself. -- Spinboy 17:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fine with both ways, as long as it's a community consensus, and is applied to all current lists by country on Wikipedia (with the title renamed from ..by country to ..by sovereign state if necessary). — Instantnood 17:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Quite curious, but was there concensus to undo what was done before whereby entities were grouped according to sovereign state? --Huaiwei 17:28, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps not.. but that's obviously a norm, if not unwritten conventions, for lists by countries (note: countries ≠ sovereign states) on Wikipedia to be presented in this way, until some started targeting at Hong Kong and Macao. — Instantnood 17:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "unwritten conventions"? Seems like a paradox in itself.--Huaiwei 18:17, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorted by sovereign States

message: There has not been a clearly stated discussion on this page for a few months, but given the edit history I assume that the question is whether territories such as Greenland and Hong Kong, which are part of a larger country such as Denmark or China, should be listed alphabetically or directly under their home country. I favor an alphabetic listing - reading through the list, I would either expect to see Hong Kong based airlines within the China list or, most likely, alphabetically under H. Having H after China but before East Timor seems out of place to me! InvictaHOG 07:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would think this discussion is not so much about where someone would expect an entry to be, but why this expectation arises. If there is a preference for one display option, please do indicate the reasoning behind it as well. Thanks! ;)--Huaiwei 17:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I like the current arrangement of listing territories separately, but there should be more pointers like the one that points from China to Hong Kong and Macau. Every country should point to it's territories and vice-versa. ironcito 04:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to RfC 

message: I've banned you both from this article, it is quite obvious it is in order, you both continue to revert each other with comments being made in edit summaries instead of where they belong -- on the talk page.  You haven't posted anything here in over two weeks yet continue to revert each other, hence, I'm banning you both from editing this one.  --Wgfinley 05:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Guy. This is actually discussed above, but user:Huaiwei has failed to accept the outcome. — Instantnood 20:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And what was the outcome?--Huaiwei 10:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:Instantnood|Instantnood]] and [[User:Huaiwei|Huaiwei]]

message: I never heard about AJ Air before. Last time I was in KL, the only airlines operate out of KUL are Air Asia and MAS. And if this airline did exist, it should mention in news, but I couldn't find anything about AJ Air in news. I think this is just another vandalism. Please remove it.141.213.66.173 06:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AJ Air of Malaysia? 

message: Anybody know who has moved North America and South America into America when this is a list of airlines by continent ! (presumably they will come back and correct the heading links! MilborneOne 22:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North America Stolen 

message: Removed 'Eric Sucks' from United Kingdom airlines. Not an airline so far as I know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.142.141.111 (talk) 14:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalisim 

message: Anybody know why this list is turning into a photo gallery ! - I think most them can be removed. Any comments before I delete the majority of them ? do we need just one or two for each continent ? this article is large enough without photographs that dont really add to the value. MilborneOne 11:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Air jazz.jpg

message: Since when is Costa Rica a part of Africa? --Hubertgui 15:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Costa Rica was in twice - merged. MilborneOne 17:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Costa Rica

message: WHERE IS CANADA?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.83.76 (talk) 06:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Canada appears to have been deleted by an IP user - I have put it back as it was. MilborneOne 14:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canada

message: May I suggest adding, to the standard airline information box for each airline article, a field containing each airline's ticketing code?  For example, American Airlines is 001, Lufthansa is 220, Air China is 999, etc.
Here is a list, though I do not know if it is accurate or complete.
http://www.siber.com/sib/travel/airline-codes.txt  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.62.34 (talk) 00:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is really for talking about the list of airlines, if you have a suggestion about airline articles then please bring it up in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines. MilborneOne 14:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airline Ticketing Codes 

message: How do you make "Australasia and the Pacific" link properly from the contents list to the body?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jddriessen (talk • contribs) 16:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contents error 

message: the list boxes offer a far more expediant and effective way of looking up airline information by country.... I tried!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.172 (talk) 18:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your input - I would suggest you read the comments above where it has been suggested that we link to List of airlines of foo and not to navboxes. A page full of navboxes is, in my opinion, not a good way to go. Not sure why you think it is a mess, is it wrong, not complete or you just dont like it? MilborneOne (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Any further thoughts in dividing this page up? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree we should create List of airlines of foo and refer out to them as well as the other lists listed at the top of the page. MilborneOne (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I'll pitch in too. One question, is it "List of airlines in..." or "List of airlines of..." ? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 23:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This whole airline section is a mess

message: I'll bring it up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines, but I'm wondering how the lists should be formated. A number of varieties exist. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 04:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created Template:Airlines list boilerplate, which can be subst'd to quickly start new airline list pages, and keep them uniform. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 01:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List formats 

message: When did Hong Kong become a country?  Why aren't the Hong Kong airlines listed with the PRC airlines? Readin (talk) 15:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region not a country - but it still has its own Civil Aviation Department which for the purpose of this list still issues Hong Kong Air Operators Certificates not PRC ones. MilborneOne (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong is a country? 

message: Please someone add the algerian airline. The related page exists already.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.167.180.75 (talk) 02:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add Air Algerie 

message: Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan are Asian countries, not European ones. They share neither history, nor religion, nor language families with Europe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abacos (talk • contribs) 14:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as the ICAO are concerned Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are in the ICAO European Region. MilborneOne (talk) 16:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Caucasian countries

message: This is a horribly messy and uneven page. I'd like to reorganize it, and bring uniform organization of all airline lists. I've created a template  for this task. My idea is to replace the content of this page with this template, and move all the content to other pages, essentially making it a disambig-type page, much in the same way List of airports in Canada is organized. I'll put the template here as well so you can have a look at it. Comments? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 01:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the template to the page, and am considering starting to move content to the individual list pages, are there any objections? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 17:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed total rewrite of this page 

message: A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries.  Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 13:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Discussion

message: The only way to get a list is to go to the individual lists of each country's airlines? That's genuinely awful. john k (talk) 19:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seriously? 

message: a tiny bit short - maybe adding an estimated number of airlines (even ballpark) and country with the most would buff it a bit. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a sentence or two. Thanks for the suggestions. Nathan121212 (talk) 07:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: I need a list ordered by size of airlines. --2003:74:CF3A:7E3E:E165:5E82:9733:D826 (talk) 08:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you looked at World's largest airlines. MilborneOne (talk) 14:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which one is the biggest airline?