Talk:Scientific visualization

message: Hi, I have rewritten this article from scratch, focusing on the new field of science, which emerged as subfield of computer graphics in the 1980s. It is especially not my intention that this article is going to develop as a main article about visualization in science. This was the problem with the first article here. 
This new article is part of the development of a series of new articles, thematically:
* Visualization 
* Data visualization 
* Educational visualization 
* Information visualization 
* Knowledge visualization 
* Scientific visualization - now established 11 July 2008 
* Visual analytics - established 26 June 2008  
And biographical articles, new and or improved: 
* Jacques Bertin •  Maxine D. Brown • Stuart Card • Donna Cox • Thomas A. DeFanti • Michael Friendly • Nigel Holmes • Jock D. Mackinlay • Michael Maltz • Bruce H. McCormick • Charles Joseph Minard • Otto Neurath • William Playfair • Clifford A. Pickover • Lawrence J. Rosenblum • Adolphe Quetelet (not yet) • George G. Robertson • Ben Shneiderman • Edward Tufte (not yet)
And the creation of several new categories in wikicommons, and finding new images.
I hope this will improve the Wikipedia representation on visualisation, and all it's aspects.
-- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 23:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new start 

message: The current "Scientific visualization topics" is intended to give an overview of the core topics/issues of scientific visualization. In the development of this section I compared the following three sources:  
;1. The various aspects of Scientific visualization according to Daniel Thalmann (1990) Daniel Thalmann (1990). Scientific Visualization and Graphics Simulation. Wiley.
* graphics workstations and processors, 
* covers fundamental problems of computational geometry, 
* various aspects related to representing volume and special methods for modeling natural objects. 
* Particle systems and modular maps, 
* basic and advanced techniques in computer animation, and robotics methods for task-level and behavioral animation. 
* applications of visualization and graphics simulation, 
* and computer vision. 
;2. The discipline of Scientific visualization includes, according to Charles D. Hansen (2004)Charles D. Hansen and Chris Johnson (2004). Visualization Handbook. Academic Press.
* Virtual environments for visualization
* Basic visualization algorithms
* Large-scale data visualization
* Scalar data isosurface methods
* Visualization software and frameworks
* Scalar data volume rendering
* Perceptual issues in visualization
;3. In a 2006 workshop held at Schloss Dagstuhl, Germany leading experts in scientific visualization included topics asGeorges-Pierre Bonneau, Thomas Ertl, Gregory M. Nielson (2006). Scientific Visualization: The Visual Extraction of Knowledge from Data. Springer.
* user issues in visualization, 
* large data visualization, 
* unstructured mesh processing for visualization,
* volumetric visualization, 
* flow visualization, 
* medical visualization 
* and visualization systems.
;4. The Scientific Visualization Tutorials from Georgia TechScientific Visualization Tutorials, Georgia Tech. Retrieved 10 Junly 2008. mentions the following Scientific visualization techniques 
* Information visualization 
* Computer simulation and Steering 
* Visual Pictures 
* Color coding 
* Surface rendering: Dot Surface, Wire Frames, Polygonal Surface, Stacked Contour Maps, Ribbons and Streamers, Shaded Contour, Hedgehogs and Attribute Mapping 
* Volume visualization
* Volume rendering techniques 
* Data Types
* Animation
;Sources:
=== Further comment ===
In the article I made a synthesis between the data in these sources, and the related subjects present in the current Wikipedia. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Core topics of scientific visualization 

message: In the article I made a synthesis between the data in these sources, and the related subjects present in the current Wikipedia. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further comment 

message: The content of all present publications listed in the further reading section has been checked:
* Bruce H. McCormick, Thomas A. DeFanti and Maxine D. Brown (eds.) (1987). Visualization in Scientific Computing. ACM Press. 
* Gregory M. Nielson, Hans Hagen and Heinrich Müller (1997). Scientific Visualization: Overviews, Methodologies, and Techniques. IEEE Computer Society.
* Clifford A. Pickover (ed.) (1994). Frontiers of Scientific Visualization. New York : John Willey Inc.
* Lawrence J. Rosenblum (ed.) (1994). Scientific Visualization : Advances and challenges. Academic Press.  
* Will Schroeder, Ken Martin, Bill Lorensen (2003). The Visualization Toolkit. Kitware, Inc.
* Leland Wilkinson (2005). The Grammar of Graphics, Springer.
Maybe even more important, specific publications about information visualisation, and computer graphics have been removed. This list should only apply to publications that really relate to this field. I hope we can keep it this way. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publications in the further reading section 

message: In "1980s : The foundation", an excerpt of "Visualization in Scientific Computing", Computer Graphics 21,6 (November 1987), is cited through "The Synthetic Image as Language", - I do not know why this is necessary. First we are told that the excerpt comes from The Synthetic Image as Language, and then appended to the excerpt is a reference to the Computer Graphics article.
I do not dispute that The Synthetic Image as Language adds to this article (it is an excellent piece), but it does so in a confusing and convoluted way. Rather than simply rework this to omit the reference-by-proxy,  I'd like to just make a note of it, in the hopes that some better solution is found.
Cheers,
Wyatt Carss  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.104.48.230 (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I made some rearrangement. The double redirect is fanished this was. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 20:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirection of citation 

message: Many of the images on the visualization page now make use of the infamous rainbow color map.  It's generally agreed upon that this is a poor quality color map and liberally throwing it around on the Wikipedia article about scientific visualization is not such a great idea.  More information about why the color map is bad can be found in the articles "Data visualization: the end of the rainbow", IEEE Spectrum 35,12, pp. 52-59, 1998 and "Rainbow Color Map (Still) Considered Harmful", IEEE Computer Graphics and Applications 27,2, pp. 14-17, 2007.  Images using this color map should be replaced or removed. 130.161.157.67 (talk) 13:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. I don't see the problem here? Just removing the images here seems out of the question for now. But if you have better replacements, please let me know. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 14:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No more Rainbow 

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:* That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Cliffflit.jpg

message: I removed the following red links from the article:
;Persons
* Thomas Ertl
* Charles (Chuck) Hansen
* Arie Kaufman
* David Laidlaw
* Jarke J. van Wijk
;Subjects
* Computer Graphics Forum
* IEEE Transactions on Visualization and Computer Graphics
Links in an article like this should be restrickted to people with an Wikipedia article. That is the whole idea here.  
-- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed red links 

message: Due to possible violation of copyright, see WP:Copyvio, I have removed one or more section of this article for now. 
I apologize for all inconvenience I have caused here, see also here. If you would like to assist in improving this article, please let me know. I can use all the help I can get. Thank you.
-- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article section(s) removed  

message: This article or section appears to have been copied and pasted from various Wikipedia articles, possibly in violation of a copyright. This has occurred last year, July 2008 here on User:Mdd/Scientific visualization, when I started recrearing this article.
I apologize for all inconvenience I have caused here, see also here. If you would like to assist in improving this article, please let me know. I can use all the help I can get. Thank you.
-- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 23:20, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copied and pasted from various Wikipedia articles 

message: This article is started as a draft version on User:Mdd/Scientific visualization. The following listing will give a copy-paste registration of that articlë: 
 
* In this first edit text was copy/pasted here from the Visualization (computer graphics) article (which was practically completely removed again 10 edits later). 
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Bruce H. McCormick article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Rendering (computer graphics), Ray casting, Radiosity, and Ray tracing articles.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Computer animation]] article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Volume rendering article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Information visualization article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Human-computer interaction article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Thomas A. DeFanti article.
* In this edit text was copy/pasted here from the Maxine D. Brown, Clifford A. Pickover, and Lawrence J. Rosenblum articles.
That whole article, see here is copy/paste here 12 July 2008.
-- Mdd (talk) 21:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-paste registration 

message: Shouldn't we add Matlab to the software section.--37.8.3.27 (talk) 22:20, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matlab

message: There is a page called Scientific illustration, which redirects to Illustration#Scientific and not to this article. So, is there and difference between scientific visualization and scientific illustration? —Kri (talk) 13:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In my experience, scientific visualization is data visualization as it is applied to scientific data, that is, the algorithm generation of images or animations from data. Examples might be plotting of data, or animations generated from fluid simulations, or circos plots of genetic data. Illustration is the creation of a simplified diagram to picture a scientific object of interest--the wavefront of a particle beam, or, the nervous system of a fly, or botanical illustrations, or an artist's impression of Cassini orbiting Saturn, etc. --Mark viking (talk) 17:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between scientific visualization and scientific illustration?