Talk:Hedy Epstein

message: This page is a POV travesty. As of this morning the page essentially consisted of a one sentence description of who Hedy is, followed by an attack on her biographical claims, followed by accusations of anti-Semitism, followed by one line telling people where she lives. Everything about this page smacks of an attack page and WP:NPOV, from the topics selected, to the headings used, to the order in which facts are presented. (I don't think I know of a single other biography where a person's controversial facts are presented first, and their biographical facts are relegated to mere footnotes at the bottom). I've done a little cleanup work to try and at least make facts which are in dispute reflect that, but a lot more work needs to be done. Until then, I'm adding the NPOV header and asking other editors (especially those more experienced in this area than I) to help out. --Bachrach44 (talk) 20:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to the world of Wikipedian anti-Zionist biographies, Bachrach44. As ever, it's a disgrace. <eleland/talkedits> 02:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any reason to try and bring politics into this. Hedy is a controversial figure, and any bio will clearly reflect that. I am something of an eventualist and an optimist, so I would like to think that Wikipedia's policies and procedures are such that we can ultimately make a good article which restricts itself to verifiable facts and upsets no one. Also I think that prior to about a week ago this article had pretty much been ignored and only really edited by one or two people. Wikipedia's entire philosophy is that  more people can only improve the situation. (More people = more better) --Bachrach44 (talk) 14:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: I removed a link already in the lead. Why is Finkelstein there? If it is related, work it into the article or remove it, or spell out the connection. Thank you. --70.181.45.138 (talk) 02:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I forgot to remove the ISM link when reverting some BLP violations. Finkelstein is a very prominent critic of Israeli treatment of the Palestinians who is also the son of holocaust survivors, Epstein is a prominent critic of Israeli treatment of the Palestinians who is the daughter of holocaust victims. <eleland/talkedits> 23:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there's some more direct connection I think it should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.170.192.129 (talk) 23:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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message: The biography section was sourced to other references, but the wording was copied nearly word-for-word from this piece in the NJ Jewish News.  Just because each statement was sourced from somewhere else, you can't copy entire paragraphs like that.  I've gutted the biography section until someone with time and skill can restore it with new order/wording/presentation. Sorry to destroy and run, I can't rewrite this, and we can't just leave a copyvio unaddressed.
There was an attempt to add this to the "recent deaths" section of WP:ITN; if this is addressed quickly, there still might be time. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:07, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I think what has happens is that a commenter on the NJ Jewish News article may have plagiarised us. The content in Wikipeida dates from August 2008 the article linked to is dated 1 February 2011 and the matching text is in a comment. Thryduulf (talk) 22:09, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right; I've reinstated the text.  Sorry to jump the gun like that, I had to run and was in too much of a rush to wrap this issue up first. --Floquenbeam (talk) 11:55, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You did the right thing. Better to be safe than sorry with potential copyright problems. Thryduulf (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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