Talk:Zagreb rocket attacks

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Zagreb May Rocket attack1.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Zagreb May Rocket attack2.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:UCK NLA.jpg

message: I noticed inconsistencies and evidence that contradicts this sentence put in recently in the first paragraph, "Milan Martic, the president of RSK, has stated that the attack was conducted in an attempt to force the Croatians to free 1500 POW captures during Operation Flash." The "evidence" given was to look at the "youtube" clip. I assumed it meant the one linked at the references of the page, so I indeed took another look at it. What I found was that among other things, he mostly admits to revenge motivations, as seen at 1:22 onwards, ("Za ovo što je Tuđman napravio prema vama ovdje, protumjeru, mi smo bombardovali sve njihove gradove...") that it was an attack of retaliation against Operation Flash. Martic's own words found in a different interview was shown in the ICTY Tribunal transcripts: "In the case of the Ustasha aggression we will certainly not miss the opportunity to hit them where it hurts the most. We know their weak spots and where it hurts the most. Weak points are city squares, and we know where, who goes there, civilians. I have already said this and was criticised a little. Well, now they may ask which squares in which cities. I shall reply that that's a military secret." Judge Moloto stated a few moments later in the transcript: " For the first time today, [the defense] have stated it quite categorically that what took place in Zagreb was revenge." http://www.icty.org/x/cases/martic/trans/en/060615IT.htm  I hope this clears everything. Response it welcomed. --Jesuislafete (talk) 06:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martic's claims 

message: In my opinion, there is little difference between the two versions, as they are both correct descriptions of Bljesak (Flash). However, I prefer the former, because it implicates that Martić ordered the attack because he lost a part of RSK to Croatia. I really see no point in a hypothetical example of Croatia miserably faioling in Bljesak and Martić defending RSK territory, where he, like opening a bottle of champagne, bombed Zagreb. I hold no sympathies for Martić's actions, but the second version is quite a bit vague. Also, as for Marko's note about SAO Western Slavonia being defended by UN forces, I suggest reading our article on Operation Flash, which clearly states that in 1993 UN recognized the UNPAs on today's Croatian territory as parts of the Republic of Croatia. —Admiral Norton (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that there is little difference between the two, which is why I was hesitant to change it. However, looking at it through the view of Serb officials/military leaders, military defeat sounds more appropriate for the topic given that Martic reacted intuitively from his army's crushing defeat, while the phrase Croatian army offensive doesn't really fit the situation's outcome from Martic's point of view. I mean, the phrase could be used, but from the perspective of Serb military leadership, the target reason is the effect of the defeat from a military perspective. I believe this is the more appropriate terminology. --Jesuislafete (talk) 06:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military defeat or Croatian army offensive? 

message: Zagreb is NOT only civilian inhabited area atacked w/ this weapon typ during war, which is stated in article. Starigrad , Požega , Šibenik  and some others like Sinj, but I cant find any info about that. --Domjanovich (talk) 12:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zagreb rocket atack is NOT only one atacked 

message: There is no doubt civilians were killed.  I'm a little troubled by this particular photo, however - there is no surrounding damage, or broken glass, or anything.  It looks very much like the propaganda photos used by Sadam Hussein during air-raids on Baghdad during the war, when a (very much alive!) woman lied face-down behind him during a news conference directly following an attack.  Is there no other photo available of the carnage? 104.169.44.141 (talk) 05:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  victim photo ....