Talk:Abbot

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message: Somebody with more expertice could divide this article into paragraphs with headlines. --84.230.104.193 06:33, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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message: Some women style themselves to look like idiots Bold text'abbot'. See, for example, Joan Halifax Roshi (Her website). --Shantavira 15:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: User:HarvardOxon added the following to the Eastern Christian section:
the title "abbot" is not given in the Western Church to any but actual abbots of monasteries today, the title archimandrite is given to "monastics" (i.e., celibate) priests in the East, even when not attached to a monastery, as an honor for service, similar to the title of monsignor in the Western/Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church.
I cannot speak for Eastern Rite Catholics, but the Orthodox Church does not normally have "celibate" clergy who are non-monastic (except for married priests whose wives have died, and they would be elevated to Archpriest or Protopresbyter, but not Abbot). While it is true that—at least in the Russian Church—the rank of Abbot (Hegumen) and Archimandrite may be bestowed as an honorary title to a monk who may not happen to be the superior of a community, it is always given only to monks (not to persons who are merely "celibate"). Unless someone has been tonsured a monk, he cannot be made an Abbot. I would recommend re-editing the sentence to make it more accurate, and less offensive. MishaPan 00:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Monastics"

message: Given that Zen Buddhist Centres (and probably many other traditions) also have Abbots, this article is FAR too christianity-centric.  I like christianity and its history as much as the next guy, but all of these christian historical details belong elsewhere. In fact, the second sentence of the article clearly states that " This article is intended to present facts related to the role and history associated with abbots in Christianity." ----> This may imply completely ignoring additional (perhaps more relevant) non-Christian material.
:Article is currently in a "worst of both worlds" state -- The lead sentence is, "The word abbot, meaning father, is a title given to the head of a monastery in various traditions, including Christianity," but article doesn't actually say anything about non-christian abbots. Let's either remove mention of non-Christian abbots or add some content about them. -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I do hear what you are saying, but more than 5 years after you wrote your note, the fact remains that the word "abbot" is frequently used in English to refer to the administrative head of Buddhist monasteries. The fact that this word is a translation of a term from various other languages is irrelevant. There are plenty of Anglophone Buddhists these days, and plenty of Buddhist monasteries in Anglophone countries. This encyclopedia needs to reflect the fact that this word is used often outside of a Christian context. Invertzoo (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE: Solved the problem I think, by creating a new article Abbot (Buddhism). Invertzoo (talk) 17:45, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian-centric view 

message: The article currently says that Egypt was "the first home of monasticism".
This kind of claim requires substantiation.
If none is added, the phrase should be removed. It doesn't add anything anyway. 66.117.50.141 (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Whence monasticism?

message: Hi. I searched this article for "buddhism" and didn't get any hits. My mistake if it's there. I think this article is written for a Christian audience although the first sentence says it applies to "various" traditions. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:38, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched again and didn't find it. At right is a caption, in contribution in case somebody fixes this someday. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned above, this is a problem. I figure what we need to do is to start an article on Abbot (Buddhism) and then the current article can have a footnote directing people to that article if they are not primarily interested in the Christian context. Invertzoo (talk) 16:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE:::Solved the problem I think, by creating a new article Abbot (Buddhism). Invertzoo (talk) 17:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
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