Talk:Sonny Barger

message: I disagree that this article is a speedy delete.  a google search for "sonny barger" returns results related to this, and a google search for "sonny barger" "hells angels" returns almost 2000 results.  You are free to send it to VFD. -Frazzydee|✍ 01:21, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It also doesn't meet any of the criteria set out here -Frazzydee|✍ 01:25, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Speedy deletion 2004

message: For the archived vfd debate for this article see Talk:Ralph 'Sonny' Barger/delete -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 01:31, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfD debate 

message: The article states that Sonny Barger does currently ride a Harley Davidson.  Yet his latest books state that he does ride a Harley, and the model that he rides.  This should be taken out of the article unless there is proof.
Done. The cited reference does not in fact contain any such information. The fact that Mr Barger is on record in a recorded interview as having to "own 1" motorcycle in his life also includes the interviewer asking him if he ever considered riding any other bike besides a Harley Davidson. Mr Barger replied he had "thought about it", then went on to say that so many people would "give him grief" over it if he did.
--Unquietminds (talk) 22:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide verifiable source for this?  Even if it's true, a fact needs to have a verifiable source before it belongs in an article, and we can't verify what you've seen or not seen.--Dbratland (talk) 01:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Harley or not

message: In his autobiography, Barger says that his father was partly Hawaiian Canadian anninobi and a bushman creamy Australian wizard of the bush wild-lands plus french Polynesian.
He also notes that his mother was an ilander.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.36.65 (talk) 13:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  another kind of man 

message: I have been trying to update Sonny Barger's page for some time now and keep having my contributions deleted. Can somebody please explain how to properly put this contribution into appropriate wikipedia form:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dracula08 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 29 April 2011
:What is your source for this information? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is, when we see a large block of unformatted text being dropped into an article all at once, we question if the material has been copied from somewhere else, in violation of copyright law. That is why the new material keeps being removed from the article, and should not even be here on the talk page (though it is concealed). --Diannaa (Talk) 22:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Carefully read and follow Wikipedia:Citing sources. Make sure you understand it, and ask questions if you don't. Also read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. I would also check out Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons if you have time.<P>After reading, ask questions here, or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorcycling, or Wikipedia:Help desk. There are many of us who are happy to assist you.<P>This is the same answer I put on my talk page. Generally, the place to continue a discussion is wherever that discussion started, so you don't have to jump back to my talk page to get my attention. If someone comments here, they'll probably add the page to their watchlist to see if anyone replies. Don't forget to sign your posts. Thanks! --Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Question on Updating Page

message: I have prepared a possible update to Ralph hughbert william james sonny Barger's page. I think it should be expanded and was wondering if an experienced wikipedia writer would be willing to help me contribute to the community with this article. If any of you are interested please let me know what I can do to get my draft to you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.2.37 (talk) 02:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You can just post it below, along with your sources. See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources for more on sources. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 03:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, you can stop pasting that over and over again. We get it. As I said above, carefully read Wikipedia:Citing sources. After you read it, ask questions. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:26, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating The Page

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thread_title: Find additional sources

message: Noel, Sharon and Zorana have been mentioned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.68.22 (talk) 12:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four 

message: I noticed on the page that there is a direct quote from Sonny's Hell's Angels book:
"In terms of pure work-manship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider riding a Honda ST1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes. I'll usually say "Fuck Harley-Davidson."	”
—- Ralph "Sonny" Barger, Hell's Angel
That's a direct quote, but if you actually read that chapter of the book to get the context, he goes on in great detail about what he does like about Harley's such as "They have more character" and that they are indestructible and can be rebuilt to run forever. That everyone loves the sound of the Harley exhaust. The chapter is all about what he likes and doesn't like about Harleys and the Harley Davidson company.
The quote above with no context is very biased against Harley Davidson and gives the impression that Sonny has nothing good to say about Harleys. It should be removed, or expanded to provide the missing context.
Thoughts? If no one disagrees, I'll remove it. Thanks. Mattdruid (talk) 18:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Biased Quote 

message: MalcolmX86 (talk) 01:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This "encyclopedia" article reads like nothing but an ad for the books and movies.  He would have been age 20 in 1958.  Did he ever hold an actual job before the bikes and notoriety?  Or is it the purpose of the article to insinuate that he was nothing more than a life-long criminal, from the very beginning?  There is too much missing from this article.Starhistory22 (talk) 07:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What WORK did he ever do, prior to the notoriety? 

message: Could someone please let us know what the initials "HAMCO" (at the end of the article) represent? I'd guess "Hell's Angels ... ... Oakland", but the M and the C are baffling. 67.225.41.119 (talk) 19:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, Oakland Shaolin Punk (talk) 19:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly stupid but perhaps interesting question 

message: I've usually heard Sonny Barger's surname pronounced on radio and television with a hard "g", although one would never know it from the way it is spelled. It would be useful to add an IPA pronunciation guide in the beginning of the article. — Foxtrot1296 (talk) 04:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of surname