Talk:Lend-Lease Sherman tanks

message: "The Soviet Union's nickname for the M4 medium tank was Emcha because the open-topped figure 4 resembled the Cyrillic letter che or cha (Ч ). The (diesel engined M4A2) "emchas" used by the Red Army were considered to be much less prone to burn and explode than Russian tanks "
A much more logical explanation for the name is that 'M' =em '4' = "(che)tyre" in russian. This has the advantage of A: actually making sense B. actually aligning with the name.
Further, soviets pioneered the use of diesel in tanks, so that is certainly not what made the sherman less liable to explode. One interview with a tanker attributes it to the tendency of the more powerful but less stable HE ammo of the russian tanks being more vulnerable to 'cooking off' (exploding inside the tank).
99.141.123.234 (talk) 08:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: USSR

message: One person says Canada had no Lend Lease Shermans and another person says that Canada did have Lend Lease Shermans.  Can we please get verifiable sources with specific page references for these claims?  Thank you.Wikist 13:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspcect there's some confusion over what "Lend Lease" means in context. M4s (among other equipments) were provided to Canada under what (I think) was a separate deal akin to "Lend Lease", not the main program, nor as part of the British alotment, nor transferred from Britain. They thus didn't technically fall under "Lend Lease", but could be (tho I'm not sure docs ever did) referred to as "Lend Lease" equipment. (Don't ask me to cite a source; I'd have to check at least three dozen books to find it...)  Trekphiler 03:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge, the four Shermans in question (which I believe were used in a series of tests to compare the Sherman to the performance of the Ram), are the extent of Lend-Lease that Canada received, but I could be mistaken. The Canadian government did not request Lend-Lease aid during WWII. Unlike the UK, Canada was not broke in WWII and Canadian industry was in many cases able to oversupply the armed forces - the great majority of Canadian war materiel in WWII was exported, mostly to the UK under the auspices of Canada's own version of the Lend-Lease program, Mutual Aid. Why these four Shermans were supplied to Canada under Lend-Lease I do not know, and I'd never heard of it before a week or two ago. The person who added this info has the US official histories, so I trust that he is correct. --Ggbroad 13:53, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: There was no GM locomotive plant in London Ont during WWII.--Ggbroad 04:04, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lend Lease to Canada?

message: At least well-informed people will not laugh when they see the page now.  14thArmored 1200 Hours 20 December 2006
Deleted harrasment by Wikist.  14thArmored 03:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixed Glaring (Blinding) Errors

message: The 4th Armoured Brigade formed part of the 2nd New Zealand Div and arrived in Italy Oct 22, 1943. See for example Jeff Plowman and Malcom Thomas, "4th New Zealand Armoured Brigade in Italy" in Kiwi Armour, 2000. Composition was three tank battalions (18th, 19th, and 20th NZ Tank Regiments) and one mechanized Infantry Bn ("Motor Battalion" in British usage), 22nd NZ Motor Battalion. This brigade was formed from the old 4th Infantry Brigade.  DMorpheus 20:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The back-and-forthing on this issue is not productive for anyone. The article is about Lend-Lease Shermans, not about the composition of the New Zealand Army; this is at best a peripheral issue. Frankly it is a trivial point. Please refrain from commenting on editors.  DMorpheus 15:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Zealand 4th Armoured Brigade 

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