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Talk:Sonata in C major for piano four-hands, D 812 (Schubert)

message: We start out talking about a Sonata in C major.  Only down below do we tell the story of how it became known as Grand Duo.  
I think I'd rather show both Schubert's title and the common title: Sonata in C ("Grand Duo"), or similar.
Thoughts?  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:32, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: See WT:NCM#More examples (Schubert) --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: that talk has in the mean while been archived to: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (music)/Archive 2#More examples (Schubert). --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming 

message: I wonder about the article title, Sonata in C major for piano four-hands, D 812 (Schubert). To my understanding, we usually first say what it is, Piano Sonata or here Sonata for Two Pianos, then the key if needed, then a catalogue number if the better disambiguation. We add the composer in brackets for Opus numbers, which is not the case here. This article could simply and uniquely be Sonata for Two Pianos, D 812 (with redirects, of course). The question concerns more than one article, but we need to start somewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: No infobox? † Encyclopædius 18:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  No infobox?
Talk:Gretchen am Spinnrade

message: Has anyone ever remarked on the change from Gretchen's idealised idea of love in "Der König in Thule" to this? Because they should have. Schubert knew. Her earlier song is courtly and formal; this is anything but. Narky Blert (talk) 20:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Der König in Thule
Talk:Octet (Schubert)

message: I removed the following:
:Both of the chamber music compositions being complete in themselves, and of an exceptionally "symphonic" character, it was further supposed that Schubert never started the score for symphonic orchestra, or abandoned drafts in such sense in an early stage. The fact that many scholars numbered Schubert's next symphony No. 8, appeared nonetheless to express some hope to recover the full score of this 1824 symphony - sometimes referred to as the 'Gastein Symphony' - one day. (However, this numbering ignored the existence of the structurally complete but only partly scored Symphony in E which is nowadays accepted as No.7 in the Schubert symphonic canon.) It is now known that Schubert was in fact referring to starting work on the symphony that became No. 9. Schubert's letter of 31 March 1824 to his friend Leopold Kupelwieser states explicitly both (a) that he has completed the Octet and (b) that he "intend[ed] to pave my way towards a grand symphony in that manner", which seems a definitive statement that the octet and any as-yet-unwritten symphony would be unrelated except by their "grand" manner.
While interesting, it doesn't really have much relevance to the Octet.  See also List of compositions by Franz_Schubert#Symphonies.  (I left in the first part mentioning that the "grand symphony" might have been the Octet. Magicpiano (talk) 17:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed material about symphony no 7
Talk:Piano Trio No. 1 (Schubert)

message: For some reason, the description of the second movement ends with this line: "The third movement (3/4, B-flat) is in the classical minuet form." That does not square with the (brief) description of the third movement given under the appropriate heading. Drhoehl (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Piano Trio No. 2 (Schubert)

message: Edward T. Cone remarks in his essay Schubert Criticizes Schubert (p. 146 of Hearing and Knowing Music: The Unpublished Essays of Edward T. Cone) that the development of the finale in its uncut version is not only completely self-sufficient (starting and ending with the Swedish melody in B minor), but also astonishingly outlines a sonata form in itself (where the first theme is the Swedish melody, the second is the cimbalom-theme in D minor, and both are recapitulated together in B minor). Double sharp (talk) 11:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

message: The soundtrack of the film “Barry Lyndon” includes making use of the second movement of D 929. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072684/soundtrack/?ref_=tt_trv_snd 118.208.165.140 (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kubrick - Barry Lyndon - soundtrack
Talk:Quartettsatz, D 703 (Schubert)

message: As I've researched the Quartettsatz, I've found a 1905 book which revealed that at some point in the 19th C it was believed the work was written by Schubert in 1814 (eg It was an early work). The same book also includes a list of Schuberts compositions which correctly gives the year of composition as 1820. This is obviously an area for future research. Other related lines would be:
* Finding reviews of the 1867 premier not only to gauge the initial reaction, but to identify the quartet that performed it. 
* Tracing the "chain of custody" from Schubert to Brahms and finding information on the role of Brahms in setting up that first performance.Graham1973 (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 19 Century Views of the Quartettsatz - An area for further research

message: There are two pieces commonly called Quartettsatz by Schubert: D. 103 and D. 703. Perhaps a disambiguation is in order? Double sharp (talk) 15:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Double sharp (talk) 15:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title is ambiguous 
Talk:List of compositions by Franz Schubert (D 1–D 500)

message: Is there any particular reason why this half of the list goes up to 504, rather than, say, 500?  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  08:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No reason?  OK, I've now split the list at a more rational and expected place.  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  04:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Why 504?

message: D345: 1979 sleeve note says "for violin accompanied by string quartet, 2 oboes, 2 trumpets and timpani". From republished Grammophon CD 431 168-2
D438: 1979 sleeve note says "for violin accompanied by string quartet". From republished Grammophon CD 431 168-2 HonestIntelligence (talk) 12:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  D345 & D438
Talk:Chicagoland Collegiate Athletic Conference

message: Joined dates are missing for half the conference. Have any current members left and re-joined? No former members are listed, if there are no former members the sub-section should be removed. Msjraz64 (talk) 02:03, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparantly it's mostly in the works. Assuming some folks are trying to talk with the involved schools that are mentioned on the article page, as long as they get or find some sources based on them. jlog3000 (talk) 15:58, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member schools 

message: Appears to me that the CCAC has a new logo that debuted during this academic year. Here's a summarized story on this link: CCAC Reveals New Logo Design So I wonder if the logo will be updated as well as the map. jlog3000 (talk) 16:05, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New logo
Talk:List of compositions by Franz Schubert (D 501–D 998)

message: The Fantasia in C for Piano ("Grazer Fantasie") was composed by Anselm Hüttenbrenner.--Suessmayr (talk) 20:15, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grazer Fantasie D 605a 

message: 1979 sleeve note says "for violin and small orchestra". From republished Grammophon CD 431 168-2. HonestIntelligence (talk) 12:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  D580 

message: A proposal has been made in the WikiProject Classical Music section to merge this page with the one that includes Deutsch numbers D 1- D 500. I support consolidating the two articles. While the resulting new article would be long, several entries from both the Appendix and those having former Deutsch numbers are on certain instances inter-related between both articles, so having a single one would be beneficial. Solti79 (talk) 19:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It definetly should once converting them to table form is done. I doubt it'd be all that much longer than Köchel catalogue. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 23:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging
Talk:Schwanengesang

message: Please consider incorporating any useful material from the above submission into this article. The submission is eligible for deletion in 6 months. ~Kvng (talk) 23:39, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Serenade(Schubert)]] 

message: There must be lots of written debate about it: here is just one of the most easily searched articles on the matter. Double sharp (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  regarding the place of ''Die Taubenpost'' here 

message: In the 2015 video game Five Nights at Freddy's 3, a rendition of "Serenade" is used for a hidden minigame. Is this relevant enough for the article, and if so, how do we address it? 73.109.74.152 (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''FNaF''
Talk:KIID

message: The KXOA article is virtually-entirely about the 1470 AM facility, which is the same license as KIID; we try to have station articles follow the license history as much as possible. (Note that I'm not sure how much of the crappily-sourced, if not outright unsourced, material on the KXOA page should be directly merged, but again, even properly-sourced material about the AM side of KXOA belongs better in the KIID article. Note also that the article alludes to the once-co-existent KXOA-FM, but most material relating to that was moved to its proper article, KDND, ages ago.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[KXOA]]
Talk:String Quartet No. 13 (Schubert)

message: Well, op.29 was published as "Trois Quatuors" by Sauer and Leidesdorf, although the second and third ones did not manage to come out under the same opus number. (So D 804 might be better labelled "op.29 no.1", but that's never going to happen.) It seems almost certain that D 810 would have been op.29 no.2; the only candidate for an op.29 no.3 would be D 887 (op.posth.161), which indeed makes a worthy conclusion to a Classical set of three quartets. Alfred Einstein in his book on Schubert (published by Panther) seems to take this (including assigning D 887 to the triad) as a given IIRC. Double sharp (talk) 10:13, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

message: This is clearly related to the oft-quoted letter to Kupelweiser from 31 March 1824:
(I quote the whole thing, because everyone seems to give it with ellipses.) The connection is even noted by the Hyperion liner notes; Graham Johnson further makes the point that now that Schubert has become one of his most famous song characters, the composition of original songs has dwindled in favour of quotations of the fruits of an earlier "golden age" in D 804 and D 810. This journal article also draws connections to D 887 and D 960 (I suppose one could extend it further to D 956 too). Double sharp (talk) 11:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Benedict Taylor's article is cited here in this connection. I fail to understand what you are driving at. Does something need to be added to this article?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That if we are going to mention the connection to Gretchen, we should probably also note the contemporarous quote from Schubert's letter. Double sharp (talk) 02:50, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see. So long as it is made clear that the rather tenuous connection to Gretchen in the quartet ("a texture reminiscent of the melancholic theme from ..., Gretchen am Spinnrade") is the interpretation of Johnson, Taylor, et al., this does seem appropriate.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference to ''Gretchen'' 
Talk:KRDY

message: As of about 2 weeks ago, this station is off the air and is being used by Catholic religious broadcasting.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.8.130.177 (talk) 21:08, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Talk:Valses nobles et sentimentales

message: I agree, split it.  These are two works with the same name, but topics should each have their own page. --Sketchee (talk) 16:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've split the article, Valses nobles et sentimentales (Ravel) and Valses nobles et sentimentales (Schubert).  This page now redirects to the Ravel. I've not edited the existing text other than adding some links (even though I think it needs work). Magicpiano (talk) 21:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Split.
Talk:Wanderer Fantasy

message: I've created a sandbox for some potential restructuring + additions to this page at /sandbox. I'm new here so any changes/feedback are greatly appreciated! Chansondoree (talk) 03:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sandbox + restructuring? 

message: One of us should add some of the more prominent recordings on (modern) piano. The current page (as of Nov 26 2023) showed those on fortepiano alone. Today I edited the page to make note of that limitation. David Couch (talk) 06:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Recordings" is a very incomplete section
Talk:Renee Alway

message: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2869110/Former-America-s-Model-finalist-Renee-Alway-sentenced-12-years-prison-ordered-pay-58-000-damages.html
Former America's Next Top Model finalist Renee Alway sentenced to 12 years in prison for armed burglary, fraud and drug possession.
(She will be available to model in 2026)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.53.166 (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: Given that there are articles for other reality show contestants who did not win (see Survivor articles), the article should stay Skeetidot 18:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It will probably get deleted anyway. A year ago a whole bunvh of people voted to keep all the pages of ANTM contestants. And then a few months later, all the "not notable" pages disappeared. Geesh. 70.79.66.26 04:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Deletion 

message: When adding references, remember that Wikipedia can't be a reference for itself. Articles must not link to material of dubious copyright, such as completely reproduced pages from a magazine. -- Mikeblas 13:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I have a pic of her -->   23F3F13D00000578-0-image-a-1_1418247877630.jpg
Jpiippo1 (talk) 02:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2015 

message: Change "She and her husband Jason have three children" to "She and her ex-husband Jason have two children. Renee gave birth to a third child while she was in legal trouble, and the child was given up for adoption." RoosDaddyDollars (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 23:01, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2022
Talk:WWMI

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed
Talk:Polonaise-Fantaisie (Chopin)

message: A crossword puzzle from last week had as the answer that portion of Polonaise-Fantaisie was done in: ASHARPMINOR 
I came here looking for the answer originally and it lists A-Flat Major. Does anyone more familiar with Chopin's work -- this one in particular -- know if there are a few bars written in A-Sharp Minor? Perhaps that person could edit the article since it must be a little odd (since this didn't appear anywhere else in Google). Thanks in advance, y'all! JimScott (talk) 19:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It does. See A-sharp minor. 4 T C 05:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually the relevant bars are in A-sharp major. Double sharp (talk) 05:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-Sharp Minor
Talk:On Hearing the First Cuckoo in Spring

message: (removed from article):
:The Times
:The "First Cuckoo" is a somewhat light-hearted competition in The Times' letters pages, where correspondents claim to have heard the first cuckoo in spring. The Times also have published several books of notable letters of the twentieth century, entitled "The First Cuckoo".
Regards, --AVM (talk) 18:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: This paragraph would fit better into a disambiguation page

message: Listening to these 2 pieces, adjacent on Mackerras/OWNO 2CD, and I see via Google that there are many other discs where they are reunited, as it were. Since "Summer Night on the River" seems unlikely to get its own article, perhaps we should rename this one, with a redirect - I have already, perhaps too hastily, italicised the Two Pieces mention. Rothorpe (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Move?
Talk:Cantique de Jean Racine

message: According to the (few) scores I've checked, the alto d in measures 46 and 47 (text: "... son de ...") is a natural d - exactly parallel to m.42/43. The choir, however, sings d-flats in m.46/47.
The version linked at the Spanish WP entry gets it right - see link at the right.
--haraldmmueller 10:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now replaced the media file because of the problem above. An HTML comment with the previous file link is still in the text. --haraldmmueller 17:33, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Choir singing incorrectly 

message: I suggest something like this, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me, but perhaps ping the person who recently did quite a few edits, looks like s/he may also be a contributor to de.wiki?  Montanabw(talk) 05:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  To article after waiting, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox? 

message: Zachary Gates is not a notable scholar and the paper cited is not published (except on Scribd) nor peer-reviewed. I suggest this quotation be eliminated since it is not of very great analytical depth anyway (what is the meaning of "atonal note choices" in an 1860s-style piece?).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9E00:6B00:D084:EA58:9386:DD8C (talk) 14:53, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote from Zachary Gates
Talk:Chicago Assembly Plant

message: The introduction reads like it was written by the security contractor himself. Apparently, this paragraph has nothing to do with the plant itself and should IMO be revised. 16:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction has weird focus
Talk:Pelléas et Mélisande (Fauré)

message: An editor has added this: Debussy in his letter [refusing to write the music for the play] said: "j'aimerai toujours mieux une chose où, en quelque sorte, l'action sera sacrifiée à l'expression longuement poursuivie des sentiments de l'âme. Il me semble que là, la musique peut se faire plus humaine, plus vécue, que l'on peut creuser et raffiner les moyens d'expression". No translation is provided, and as far as my halting French takes me I think it means something to the effect of "I shall always prefer a thing where, in a way, the action will be sacrificed to continued long term feelings of the soul. It seems to me that there, music can become more human, more experienced, that we can dig and refine the means of expression." I don't think this Debussian observation has anything to do with this article on Fauré's music, and I propose to delete it, if nobody demurs. Tim riley (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debussy quote
Talk:Coronation anthem

message: Hello,
I know I'm just butting in here but I read over the article and I feel like parts of this article go against the grain of some Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music standards for article-writing.  Please check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_Classical_music#Evaluative_passages to see what I'm thinking about.  In places the tone feels very much like a fan appreciation of the pieces (don't get me wrong -- I completely agree with the descriptions).  I love the open details around their composition, but perhaps we could drop the "program notes"-style description of Zadok, especially since it has its own article as well.
just my two cents Fred 03:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  style / tone issues? 

message: The version of the article as of March 7, 2007  is copied from http://aylesburychoral.org.uk/concerts/works/handel_coronationanthems.htm.  the page provides permission to other societies to use the text in their programs, but there is no assertion that it has been released under the GFDL. -- Whpq 13:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: I noticed that this point here.  Shouldn't this be the other way around?  I like having the composer's name in the title, especially if the title of the work is as generic as this one is.  DavidRF (talk) 06:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Coronation Anthems (Handel)]] 

message: I dislike the way Zadok the Priest was moved away from its own page to a sub-section of this page. When I get a chance, I intend splitting this article to restore what worked for a very long time. Annoying that a change of this scale was not discussed first.  HWV258.  03:46, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the move? 

message: I don't well write in english, but I interested and write about "Zadok the Priest". I think that anthem "Zadok the Priest" should take place in separate article - because this anthem is great symbol Great Britain and it is the best work of Handel. In other Wikipedia's are separate articles for "Zadok the Priest", for example big articles in Polish Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.60.186.223 (talk) 18:28, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. I agree that the work should be on its own page. It previously was, and will be again (one day). It's on my to-do list (unless someone wants to beat me to it). GFHandel ♬  22:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. GFHandel ♬  21:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate articles for "Zadok the Priest" 

message: Good morning,
We can't succeed translating into french the following sentence which several of us seem not to be able to understand :
"It then enjoys long chains of suspensions on the phrase "thy salvation". The main trouble seems to come from the word "suspension" related to the idea of notion. Perhaps a lack of imagination ?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hop ! Kikuyu3 (talk) 07:29, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Try Suspension_(music)#Suspension. GFHandel ♬  07:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. Hop ! Kikuyu3 (talk) 04:28, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation to FR