Talk:Uganda–Tanzania War

message: "Events immediately preceding dad’s overthrow
January 1, 1979
The Uganda Freedom Movement (UFM) calls for a meeting of Ugandan exiles in Nairobi. Later the group joins the Moshi Conference. Some fascinating facts have come out about the build-up to the Uganda/Tanzanian War concerning the make up of the fighting forces—the so-called Liberation Forces.
Apart from the 208th which was a regular Army Brigade, the other five TPDF Brigades that invaded Uganda in 1979 were made up of largely volunteers from the Peoples Socialist Militias, the semi trained fighting force that already provided security at village level in Tanzania (Ma Nyumba Kumi).
One of the reasons why the fighting was halted for three months after dad withdrew from the Kagera Salient in October 1978 was that before the invasion, the TPDF recruits needed some further basic training. This took place in various military camps that were set up in the area to the south of the Kagera River. By November of 1978 the Regular army 208th Brigade was based in a camp at Katoro, a village a few miles south of Kyaka Bridge, with the 206th camped a short distance to the west. The 201st Brigade meanwhile was stationed at the main trade centre of Bukoba.
By contrast, the 207th Brigade was based at Bugandika, a few miles to the north of the road between Bukoba and Kyaka. Although this is a rural area, it lies at the foot of the infamous smuggler’s road – the marram track connecting Lukunyu, Kanyigo and Bukwali to the rest of Tanzania. This area lies in Kiamtwara Chiefdom, one of the places where the Tutsi refugees settled in 1962.
These four volunteer Brigades retook the Kagera Salient in January 1979 but there were two other Tanzania Brigades that assembled rather later. The troops of the 205th arrived in Kagera Region only in late December 1978 and completed their training in February of 1979 at a camp near the Parish of Kakuuto, just over the border in Southern Uganda. The last TPDF units to assemble passed through Kagera region in early 1979 and were formed into the Minziro Brigade when Mbarara was captured in February 1979.
The Brigades took specific routes during the invasion. The 207th Brigade advanced from Kyaka, Kyotera, Masaka, Lukaya and onwards to Kampala . The 205th Brigade advanced from Bukoba, Kyaka, Kyotera, Masaka, and branched to Mbende, Hoima, and Masindi and onwards to Gulu. The 206th and Minziro Task force set off from Nykanyasi, Mbarara where Minziro was setup, onwards to Kasese, Fort Portal , Hoima, Masindi, Pakwach, Arua, and finally my hometown Ko-buko in West Nile . The 208th and 201st Brigades advanced from Bukoba, Kyaka, Kyotera, Masaka, Lukaya, Kampala, Jinja, Tororo, Mbale, Lira and Gulu. Speculation is rife amongst locals that the spread of the Aids Scourge followed these specific routes during the ironically named Liberation of Uganda.
Caught up in this momentous surge were a bunch of pre-teenage children of the man the Liberators wanted "
*Source: Details of TPDF brigade movement during invasion (half way down page), accessed December 2007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buckshot06 (talk • contribs) 11:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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message: * -Indy beetle (talk) 04:10, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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message: * It seems that Tanzania's Daily News has used some of our work to write this article without attribution. -Indy beetle (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not surprised. Frankly, I think that it is great how people in Africa read these article and consider them great sources - but they could at least mention Wikipedia if they write for newspapers, especially if they completely copy entire sections. Applodion (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh, plagiarism from the media 

message: The general guideline for lede (lead) sections, ahead of the table of contents, is 3-4 summary paragraphs, footnoted with references. See the official WP:Lede guidelines, or the ledes of most important Wikipedia articles.
This article's current lede is the size of an entire article. (In fact, the "paragraphs" are each the size of small Wikipedia articles!).  This discourages casual researchers, and reduces the attention that will be given, to this article, by the general public.
To put the current lede in perspective, for the...
* Ugandan-Tanzanian War, which involved, at most, a dozen nations, and killed less than 5,000 people, 
this article's lede is as large as the lede for the article on...
* World War II -- which involved nearly all of the world's nations, killing over 70,000,000, ultimately revolutionizing global politics, modern warfare, science and technology -- generally regarded by historians as the largest single event in human history.
I respectfully urge one of the editors responsible to trim down the current lede, to something easily and quickly read, and move the details to the appropriate sections/subsections below the Table of Contents.
:~ Penlite (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully disagree. This passed GA, and is a finely written article with an excellent lede. Applodion (talk) 17:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede (lead) section needs condensing - WAY too big. 

message: Idi Amin Dada's government fell on April 11, 1979; not June 1979. 102.85.137.234 (talk) 09:24, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read the article. Fighting lasted into June. Applodion (talk) 13:39, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defeat of Idi Amin by Tanzania army and Ugandan exiles