Talk:June 12

message: An anon editor added under the births section:
:*1983 - Chris Lott, actor
I did a Google search and came up with nobody that I could see worthy of a wikipedia entry of this name, and a search for '"Chris Lott" actor' returns all of 6 hits, none of them about actors called Chris Lott. So I've removed him. --Camembert
The 1667 entry on Jean Baptiste is incomplete, at least for the name: Jean Baptiste Denis, and there were a series of transfusions. Thus the entry for the transfusion for a 15 year old boy is incomplete right now.Ancheta Wis 02:57, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the first is Julian calendar and the second is Gregorian calendar.
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Chris Hughes (previously listed under births as "1988 - Christopher Hughes, random Welsh guy" doesn't appear to be the same person from the Wikipedia article. Removed from list pending conformation. –Dvandersluis 15:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Removed:
*1099 - Crusade leaders visit the Mount of Olives, where they meet a hermit who urges them to assault Jerusalem
*1442 - Alfonso V of Aragon is crowned King of Naples
*1849 - The gas mask is patented by L.P. Haslett
*1897 - Carl Elsener patents his penknife. The object later became known as the Swiss army knife. 
*1901 - Cuba agrees to become an American protectorate by accepting the Platt Amendment
*1912 - Lillian Russell retires from the stage and marries for the fourth time.
*1918 - World War I: The first airplane bombing raid by an American unit occurs on the Western Front in France
*1944 - Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-tung announces that he will support Kuomintang leader Chiang Kai-shek in the war against Japan. 
*1948 - Ben Hogan wins his first U.S. Open golf tournament. 
*1957 - Maurice Bourgès-Maunoury becomes Prime Minister of France.
*1985 - The United States House of Representatives approves $27 million in aid to the Nicaraguan Contras.  
*1986 - South Africa declares a national state of emergency. Virtually unlimited power is given to security forces and restrictions are put on news coverage of the unrest. 
*  1991   - NAFTA talks open in Toronto, Ontario.
*1992 - In a letter to the United States Senate, Russian President Boris Yeltsin states that in the early 1950s the Soviet Union had shot down nine U.S. planes and held 12 American survivors
Could not be confirmed at this date outside of 'this day in history'-type webpages and Wikipedia mirrors. --mav 07:47, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes the legend does say that but I could not confirm the exact day. One website says that the Baseball Hall of Fame was dedicated on June 12, 1939 to mark the 100th anniversary of the "invention" but that organization's website says nothing of that.   --mav 07:47, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved/removed

message: On June 13 I added "2008 - Ireland rejects the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum, thus putting into question the reform programme of the European Union." This is because it has global significance, and should be included under the WP:DOY Important verdicts and court decisions guideline.
However, it was removed in favour of "2008 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, a hit game by Konami, releases." I have undone the edit, and reinstated the Lisbon treaty, as according to the WP:DOY page it should not be included (Dates that pertain to television programs, movies, books, video games, etc. - this is not notable on a global scale (exceptions include the breaking of world records for sales, etc.))
Nacbrie (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lisbon Treaty 

message: Why was this removed? This was a major step toward democracy not only for the people of Iran but also for the world stability. The event caught major media coverage for months on CNN, FOX and BBC. The events that followed include worldwide demonstrations against the Iranian governrment which is notable. These networks still cover the event on it's aniversary. For your information look at CNN cover here which contains this article.  United States president and other notable world figures have also expressed concern for the events that followed this event. Examples are here and here.
This event is not less important than "1997 – Queen Elizabeth II reopens the Globe Theatre in London" or than "1993 – An election takes place in Nigeria which and is later annulled by the military Government led by Ibrahim Babangida." for many around the globe, inside Iran and outside Iran. 
99.241.51.165 (talk) Anonymous User, June 12, 2010 7:23 AM EST.
:Generally elections are not notable unless they lead to some concrete and radical change in government (democracy to communism, etc.) or if they occur in a manner that is not a normal process (successful coup, etc.).  On the surface, this appears to be a normal election, but I can see where it would be seen as a little out of the ordinary.  But we're talking about Iran.  Does the world really expect true democratic process to be upheld? I don't really think so.  Also, the statement that "some believed the results were rigged" threw up a big red flag.  That's too weasely for this type of entry.  It suggests POV and undermines the credibility of the entry.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the entry could be simplified to state that there was a controversial Iranian presidential election that led to worldwide protest.  Anything that isn't mentioned in the article can't be included.  Maybe someone else will comment to help out on this.  I can't comment again until tomorrow.  There is certainly no hurry on this.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:07, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

text: When good faith discussion is underway, it is bad form to add content while it is still under discussion.  But I guess my statement that there was no hurry on this fell on deaf ears.  I'll adjust the current statement to meet WP:DAYS.  Any concern should be brought back here.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 20:28, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iranian 2009 Presidential Elections

message: quote: "1821 - Badi VII, king of Sennar, surrenders his throne and realm to Isma'il Pasha, general of the Ottoman Empire, ending the existence of that Sudanese kingdom."
I wonder, how could Isma'il Pasha (link to thom is given in the text), lead his army to Sudan in 1821, when he was born in 1830??? Did the Ottomans have knowledge of time machine? Correction is needed, and thinking twice before writing something. 2A02:AB04:2D4:8C00:CC8C:C02B:88DC:7B3A (talk) 10:09, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ottoman Conquest of Sudan / Badi VII.