Talk:Eddie Guerrero

message: Should something be added here about the way WWE (often controversially) used his name after his death? 68.192.137.151 03:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So then be bold and add it. Anakinjmt 13:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Can someone add that he was also the 11th WWE Triple Crown Champion, and only the 5th WWE Grand Slam Champion?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.215.130 (talk) 10:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grand Slam/Triple Crown Champion

message: Somebody removed the date of death and put that he's retired. Talk about taking things too seriously...--206.27.244.59 22:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: This articles needs more references.  There is only one, yet the Chris Benoit article has 95.  Mr. C.C. 07:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see 5 references, but it's still far too few references. I've started working on the page improving and tweaking it, eventually it should be a GA candidate but right now it's really far away from being it. MPJ-DK 12:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The song was entitled 'Gangsta Lean' and not 'Gangster Lane' as it was written before. I'm gonna go ahead and change it AGAIN. User:Rawisrob  —Preceding comment was added at 23:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: His last heel theme

message: Benoit was in WCW in 1992. WHAT.
142.162.204.216 (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Came to wcw with benoit and malenko 

message: Well, I think that he was trained by people other than his brothers and needs to be fixed. I read in his book, that most importantly his dad displined him to be a wrestler. I think that should be fixed soon. And on another issue, he actually trained Chavo Guerrero Jr. as well. Please take this under advisement, thank you. Muchas Gracias, amigos!
Gossipgirl1 (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You know the beauty of Wikipedia right? if you want something changed then YOU can actually do it yourself, be bold and all that. MPJ-DK (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the others? 

message: The SmackDown taping in which the three way with Eddie, Batista and Orton was scheduled was November 13, 2005. It was a Sunday taping of both Raw and SmackDown because they were going on an oversees tour the next day.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewitner (talk • contribs) 05:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The actual date of the SmackDown taping 

message: Does Eddie have something to do with Mil Mascaras? Volkov talk 21:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They were partners, once. Allegedly. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mil Mascaras 

message: Some time ago I saw his full name listed here as Eduardo Gory Guerrero Llanes. I don't have a problem with it either way, but is there a reason why this was removed? Seems odd for something like that to have been changed with no discussion whatever. 208.66.39.94 (talk) 12:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Eduardo Gory......

message: When did the frog splash was named jackknife splash? I've watch every Eddie's WcW match and they never call it a jackknife splash.
Isn't it typo error on the ref site web, or maybe a confusion wih the jackknife finishing move of Kevin Nash!? Jeangabin (talk) 22:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The source used for the name Jackknife splash is the archived version of his WCW bio, . It's a relibale source, so I don't see a problem. Just because you don't remember them calling it such, doesn't mean they didn't. Their official website calls it Jackknife splash, so we also list the name here. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem with. But it can be a cut, copy, and paste error or human erreor on the site web. You can also find error on the WWE official website, so at a time where information on the web wasn't as controled as nowadays... The name is not written two time, only one. You should find a second reliable source with the move named Jackknife splash or a WcW match where you can clearly hear the commentors refered to it with that name. Jeangabin (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

text: OK. I've find !! The name "Jackknife Splash" comes from Art Barr, Guerrero began using the move in AAA while teaming with "Love Machine" Art Barr. After a comment from 2 Cold Scorpio, Barr changed the name of his finishing move to "Frog Splash". After his death, Eddie adopted the "Frog Splash" as his finishing maneuver as a tribute to his friend. Jeangabin (talk) 12:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frog splash... or Jackknife Splash ?? 

message: Unto a couple of weeks ago. In the section that talks about Guerrero's death it stated that Stephanie McMahon had hinted that Eddie was scheduled to face Batista and Randy Orton and win his second World title. Why was it removed? Was it not a fact?
It was impossible to verify. There's no solid source you can point to and say, here, this proves that Guerrero was scheduled to win the WHC.TheNeutroniumAlchemist (talk) 22:21, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Heavyweight Champion? 

message: in the first paragraph that states Guerrero's name, Wikepedia should really state that Eddie was one of WWE's top superstars and one of the most skillful and technical wrestlers  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakitox3 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: POV = Point of view--WillC 02:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

text: It says beloved as you say, not anything you just said in your first post. The article is a biography, not a fan article.--WillC 21:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: you heartless basted!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.0.11 (talk) 00:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Paragraph 

message: It says that Eddie guerreor's tradegy was a storyline to feud with batista...I think somebody might've put false information, he's dead  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakitox3 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, false info. I've reverted back. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return? 

message: Just thought I'd try and get a consensus on whether or not this article is up to standard. It's well sourced and the information is fully correct as far as I can tell, but it doesn't seem as well presented or written as most Pro Wrestling articles are. Just a thought.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.245.250 (talk) 17:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Rewrite? 

message: He was 38, no 37--186.6.82.166 (talk) 09:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong age 

message: In case you haven't noticed, the infobox is broken. I'm not going to bother trying to fix it because that's not really my bag, but someone probably should.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.249.130.53 (talk) 00:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who broke the infobox? 

message: I've removed the unsourced mention of Guerrero's kids' names a couple of times, but the change is just reverted with the explanation that we don't need to source everything. I've pointed to WP:BLPNAME in my initial edit summary, which seems explicit: However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced. I'm just posting this here to make sure there's not some good reason that we are not following WP:BLPNAME. Thanks! EricEnfermero (Talk) 05:06, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guerrero's children and [[WP:BLPNAME]] 

message: How come there is no reference in this article of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VV9nMbSZgQ  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:797B:EA00:38A2:B02A:E912:9869 (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  First heart attack 

message: As the person who had written it originally, I'd like to let the cat out of the bag as to "why" the intro is there, because I can see a lot of editing happening in the near to far future.
I want to say that the intro of the article is not "fluff", but a tentative legitimate approach to the question pertaining to the general perception of Eddie Guerrero. Wrestling may be a hobby, true; on the contrary, statistical analysis is my field of work.
How do we determine if we can say that "wrestler X is considered by (fans) a good/great wrestler"? We need the appropriate sample size to say so.
The sample size of wrestling fans (using cagematch.net as a source, not because I prefer it per se, but simply because it's the biggest pool with "votes" available online) is plenty enough to justify the conclusion that Guerrero is, in fact, most likely among the best ever according to your average Joe. Guerrero is seventh - technically sixth, as there is a non-wrestler above him, that non-wrestler being Paul Heyman - in a database of possibly thousands, or dozens of thousands of pro wrestlers of all time (according to the site itself, it's pretty much all-encompassing: "the biggest stars and the most unknown rookies, all of them are included in the database and can be commented on, rated and generally browsed for huge amounts of information -- as long as the individuals have received professional training").
You may say "the internet wrestling community" may not be representative of the whole wrestling community. Fair enough, from a purely theoretical approach, but I think it's a little extreme take on the data we have as of today: I doubt that most fans who are able to follow wrestling today have not access to the internet. And mind you that we need only some people to "interview" to make a claim statistically relevant. In short, we may say that the data obtained through the internet is representative of the wrestling community as a whole because for the purpose of statistical research as long as we have the right size of data. Or the right sample, if you like.
What is the right sample, then?
Now, I don't know exactly how many wrestling fans are in the world. I know that other statistical researches suggest that around 1/5 Americans are, in fact, fans. This is irrelevant, though, even if we overestimate the size of pro wrestling fandom to include about 1 billion individuals, we may reach anywhere from 95 to 99% accuracy with a limited pool of around 666 individuals (http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm). 
In the cagematch.net database, Guerrero has received more than 700 ratings, which represent a sizeable, relevant pool for statistical data.
So, according to the wrestling fans as a sample, Guerrero should most likely be included in the top ten of all time. This should be enough to give legitimacy to the "Guerrero is widely regarded (by fans) as one of the greatest".
But what according to the WWE? Sure enough it's easier, because we have plenty of official publications. We have some articles that cover Guerrero's time as a SmackDown superstar and another that labels him "one of the greatest technician".
However, we do have another article specifically referring to the "top 50 WWE superstars of all time", a research reportedly based on WWE officials, WWE current wrestlers and past wrestlers. 
Eddie Guerrero is, again, in a remarkable eleventh position. So there you have it, according to WWE, Guerrero is right in the first dozen of its best wrestlers of all time (not enough to justify a broad claim involving other federations, truthfully); according to the wrestling community he is right there with the very very best of every federations and time.
Hoping I shed some light on the issues behind giving proper basis to statistical research covering the claim, I hope this can help other wikipedians when writing their articles too. Sorry if I mistyped anything! :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.170.99.107 (talk) 01:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "He is regarded as one of the greatest of all time": he is, in fact, but some clarifications. 

message: Why has Eddie Guerrero's "Legacy" section been removed?  KitchenSisters. (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The section was a mountain of unsourced fanboy worship. His video game appearances, and tributes to him, were already mentioned in the "Other media" and "Death" sections. Anything of any value has been integrated elsewhere, including the lede, the last paragraph of which speaks to his legacy. Warlock82 (talk) 20:33, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: Eddie Guerrero did not use the Llanes name, Llnaes is his mother's maiden name before being married to Gory. Eddie's birth name is Eduardo "Gory" Guerrero it is listed on his Birth Certificate, Grave and with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office when he was arrested in November of 2001.47.202.29.27 (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Llanes Mother's maiden Name 

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message: There is absolutely no credible source that states Guerrero was supposed to win the title in that triple threat match  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.208.77 (talk) 00:43, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: World Title Win Before Death

message: Hi  - regarding my edit on his nationality, Guerrero was born, raised and died in the United States, and had a wrestling career in the U.S, Mexico and Japan per the sources provided. WP:ETHNICITY states that other/previous nationalities and ethnicity should not be mentioned unless it is relevant to the subject. I don't see anything about dual citizenship (unless you can provide sources) and it looks like the country he was born in, died in and spent much of his life was the United States, but his Mexican roots appear to be important, hence why I put "American [occupation] of Mexican descent. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Furthermore, I've found archives of his page. It looks like "Mexican-American" referred to his ethnic background (being an American of Mexican heritage), hence why it was linked before to the "Mexican-American" page in archives. (which WP:OVERLINK states shouldn't be linked), but this was changed to just "American", and stayed this way as recently as September 2021. So, I'm not sure why this was suddenly changed, as there was no discussion here from October 2017 until now. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

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