Talk:Nearer, My God, to Thee

message: When I go to the cite that Greavill added to the article, I get this message: "Page not found: Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Dirty Writers does not exist."  By the way, I do not question that the film you mention is notable, or that its director is notable.  My question is, what is it in that film that is relevant to this article?  You have not explained it clearly, except to say, without being able to give a Reliable source, that you believe that a French version of this hymn is sung in the film.  But the IMDB does not mention it, and I am beginning to think that you are just joking around.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have found a stable URL reference which confirms the use of the hymn in the film. Unfortunately it links to a site in French, which is not ideal for English WP. I'll look out for another, preferably in the vernacular, and add shortly, I hope. - Tim riley (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this a hoax?

message: Screen grabs from the film featuring English subtitles from the hymn are now on the dirtywriters blog (http://dirtywriters.blogspot.com/). Still working on posting the relevant scene from the movie on You-Tube.Greavill (talk) 22:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, the site I mentioned above is here. The ref is confirmed in other French sites, but I couldn't find any specific ref on an English website that was prima facie authoritative. - Tim riley (talk) 17:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: This is not a hoax

message: A little post-mortem, if you please. I'm not a big wiki person and I don't know the ropes around here very well. My initial impulse was simply to add a reference to an entry. When I did so, first off my addition was disfigured by SSilvers's bad edit (which resulted in an ungrammatical entry), then SSilvers x'd it out completely, afterwards labeling it trivial, hardly of note, a joke, a hoax and vandalism. I was nonplussed to find the "citation-needed" rule enforced so vigorously when other references had none. When I pointed this out, citations were quickly added. Now the "Other associations" section of the "Nearer My God to Thee" entry has to be the most citation-heavy zone on wikipedia!
I guess my concern is about the overall atmosphere of wikipedia. I see where SSilvers is wiki black belt, and I am just a dabbler, so maybe it is right that a sense of ownership crept in over this entry. But the reaction seemed all out of proportion to the perceived trespass. I would think a collegial atmosphere is essential to making wikipedia a welcoming place on the web, and though I understand that past problems might color some people's impatience over gaffes and mishaps, still I felt pushed around and bullied, and I didn't like it. I tried to be measured in my response. I went out of my way to secure the citation, not because I have any great interest in making this particular entry complete and plenary, but because I don't like bullies. Much ado about not much? Maybe. But it speaks to the larger issue of what kind of place we want wikipedia to be.66.167.244.78 (talk) 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: PS Thanks Tim Riley for the French citation.66.167.244.78 (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your time and patience. I apologize if SSilvers felt wronged. I look forward to working on wikipedia in the future, adding references, properly this time, with citations.Greavill (talk) 03:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Post-mortem

message: The link in footnote 7 is dead. Here's the archived version and the archived version of a page by B. Greenberg linked from there, with scores and MIDIs of all versions.--87.162.26.140 (talk) 03:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webrot 

message: I think the discussion of what setting the deck band played as Titanic went under should include information on what tune the White Star Line playbook contains.  My understanding is that the tune is Horbury in the playbook.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.207.93 (talk) 18:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Star playbook

message: Someone added the following, but the reference does not support the assertions made.  Can you give us a more specific reference?:
"Whether apocryphal or not, the link between the Titanic and the hymn was established quickly in the public mind, as evidenced by commemorative postcards published by Bamforth & Co in 1912. The company produced both lantern slides and postcards to mark the tragedy. The slides featured other songs, such as 'Be British', but all six postcards produced featured words from "Nearer, My God, To Thee", accompanied by images of the sinking ship. This was not the first time that Bamforth had featured the song, which appeared in a lantern slide set produced in 1906 and postcards.  The original postcards can be seen in the collection of Kirklees Museums and Galleries.http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/leisure/museums/museums.asp"
Thanks, -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Bamforth & Co?

message: At freehymnal.com is a slightly different text shown as "Alternate Shape Note Verses", in which the verses 2 and 5 are different (see below). Does anyone know where these are from? The website only mentions Sarah F. Adams as lyrics author.
:2. Tho’ like a wanderer, daylight all gone,
:Darkness be over me, My rest a stone,
:Yet in my dreams I’d be nearer, my God, to Thee
:(Chorus unchanged)
:5. Or if, on joyful wing, cleaving the sky,
:Caught up to meet my King, swiftly I fly,
:Still all my song shall be, nearer, my God, to Thee
--SiriusB (talk) 19:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative text 

message: A contributor wrote that: a report in the Daily Sketch on April 22, 1912 stated that a colleague of Hartley’s recalled how some years earlier, while working aboard the Mauretania, he asked Hartley what he would do if he found himself on the deck of a sinking ship. Hartley replied that he would assemble the ship’s orchestra and play “O God Our Help in Ages Past” or “Nearer, My God, to Thee.”  Does anyone have this report from the Daily Sketch?  -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Daily Sketch''

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message: I think that this article would be improved by having a music composition infobox. A lot of hymn articles have these and they provide important information in way that is easily readable. I was going to add one, but I saw a note in the source that said that there should be consensus in the talk page about whether or not to have one. What do people think? Should this article have a music composition infobox? I think Abide with me is a good example of what I'm envisioning. Glucosegeyser (talk) 21:57, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music composition infobox