Talk:James Francis Edward Stuart

message: There's an inconsistency between this entry and the "Monument to the Royal Stuarts" entry.  Where did  he spend his last days?  Where is the body?
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That other entry has been corrected.
ThreeTrees 17:41, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "He signed the Treaty of Utrecht in 1714 that, amongst other humiliating conditions, required him to expel James from France."
But the treaty was signed in 1713 - is there an error in dates? Alexd 12:03, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency? 

message: Whoverer decided the wording of the monument to the Royal Stuarts seems to have called him and his wifre King and Queen of Great Britain. --Henrygb 15:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the monument was erected by Jacobites if not the family, then they would consider them the rightful sovereign and queen consort, and they were on territory of the Papal States which recognised the Jacobite claims not England where the Hanoverian Kings' writ applied.Cloptonson (talk) 18:29, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  England/Great Britain 

message: There are some minor errors and misinterpretations in this piece as follows;
1. To say that there is no evidence for the 'warming pan theory' risks giving it credibility by association.  The truth is that it ceased to be taken seriously-even by enemies of the Jacobites-not long after it was invented. Queen Anne, I believe, was the last figure of note to give it credibility.
2.  Under the terms of the Treaty of Utrecht France, and I suspect Spain, recognised George I as king of Great Britain.  In the end only the Papacy recognised James.
3.  The Treaty of Utrecht was signed in 1713 not 1714.  It is wrong and historically biased to make reference to 'humiliating' terms.  The peace was actually much better than that France had expected after her defeat at Malplaquet..
Rcpaterson 05:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors and amendments 

message: Several times an anonymous editor has added several sentences about Pope Innocent XIII's cousin who he claims was chamberlain to James.  None of the half-dozen book-length biographies of James mention this piece of trivia.  Even if it could be verified, if it's not important enough for book-length biographies, it's not important enough for an encyclopedia article. Noel S McFerran 15:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Innocent XIII and the Conti 

message: What I have read about the rumour of his birth is different to the rumour put out in this article. My understanding is that the rumour was that the child of James_II_of_England was a girl, and so the child was replaced with a  miller's child (this rumour even states the baby had flour on him) who grew up to be James Edward Stuart. This information can be found in the Wayland Documentary series book on James the Second. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Given there were hundreds of witnesses, it would have been very difficult to smuggle in an imposter past them without them being noticed. When Sidney Godolphin was asked about it during the brief investigation under William III, he claimed to have been far behind to see what was going on. Bridei921302 (talk) 11:48, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumour surrounding his birth

message: There seems to be a Catholic bias going on in parts of the article ... horrors. A theme vaguely hinting at the legitimacy of the pretenders. Isn't the real Monarch some wheat farmer in Victoria AU, called Richard Plantagenet? He is, according to Baldrick.220.244.85.176 (talk) 07:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real British Monarch 

message: Hello! This is to let editors know that the featured picture :File:Prince James Francis Edward Stuart by Alexis Simon Belle.jpg, which is used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for June 10, 2020. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2020-06-10. Any improvements or maintenance to this article should be made before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page.  If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Prince James Francis Edward Stuart by Alexis Simon Belle.jpg]] scheduled for POTD 

message: Under "Birth and childhood", I have edited "The prince's birth was controversial and, coming five years after his mother's last conception", changing "conception" to "pregnancy". James' mother was clearly not conceived five years before James was born. I will make a similar comment in the POTD page -- Mike Marchmont (talk) 12:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pregancy not conception 

message: The article says that the Pretender's court in Rome served as an unofficial embassy for British visitors, who perhaps wished to be treated by physicians of their own nationality, etc.  Would "unofficial consulate" perhaps describe the relationship better? J S Ayer (talk) 00:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial embassy? 

message: "He was allowed to hold Protestant services at Court, and was given land where his Protestant adherents could receive a public burial"
Does this make sense ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.222.249 (talk) 03:40, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baffling  

message: The article claims that DNA testing of his descendants showed that he was a Stuart.  However I thought he doesn't have descendants, which is why the Jacobite line passed to the descendants of his aunt, Henrietta of England. PatGallacher (talk) 12:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: James' granddaughter Charlotte Stuart, Duchess of Albany was illegitimate, but was the mistress of Ferdinand Maximilien Mériadec de Rohan and had illegitimate children of her own. James' great-grandson Charles Edward Stuart, Count Roehenstart served in the Imperial Russian Army. Dimadick (talk) 18:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, looking at the article on Charlotte Stuart, this looks very hazy.  I see no mention of DNA testing, which might require direct male or female line descent. PatGallacher (talk) 19:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: DNA testing