Talk:Phaistos Disc/Archive 5

message: listings of the first few syllables, or even of the same few symbols on side A regardless of reading direction, is worthless. All it tells you that each suggestion is totally incompatible with every other. Each suggestion should be discussed on its own terms. I suggest that we do a subarticle where each suggestion receives its own section where the full text can be given if available. dab (ᛏ) 16:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "A side begins"

message: I arranged the additions of Bubus into a new section. As the article grows, we need to disambiguate between typological comparisons with other scripts, and actual decipherment claims. Timm's suggestion consequently now features in the "comparison" section, since it is not a full-fledged claim of decipherment. So far there is no discussion of attempts of comparison with Egyptian hieroglyphs or Semitic abjads, these may be added (is there any serious suggestion of comparison with Proto-Canaanite, or is this lunatic fringe?) dab (ᛏ) 10:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll look at Corsone; but Italian is not my best language.Septentrionalis 17:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Comparison" section

message: Just a sidenote. As I prepared to translate the article in Russian, I searched the ru.net for some data on Vladikavkaz disk. Although there are two Russian websites dedicated to Ph. d., a translation of the Le Monde article and a number of discussions, I only found a link to www.herodotus.ru which clamed the site contained the whole story about "an identical disk from Vladikavkaz". Unfortunately, a relevant thread yielded to mention of Ossetia or Vladikavkaz. So I wonder what is the source for the Ossetian story? --Ghirla -трёп- 17:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Irismeister entered it, 12 March 2004. His source appears to be this: link, which is a French translation of a Russian article. I have not seen, and could not read, the original. Septentrionalis 17:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I found quite a few links googling for "Phaistos" and "Vladikavkaz" in Latin script, but no entries googling and yandexing in Cyrillic. This is what perplexes me, although the link you provided doesn't seem to be a hoax. --Ghirla -трёп- 17:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds like a small journal. It may not be webbed, and it's likely to  be subscription only. Either would keep out spiders. Some Cyrillic equivalent of Scholar.google.com might find it. Septentrionalis 18:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the story is in the Dutch group's book (2004), including photographs. The only unsourced thing at the moment is the report that the museum returned the disk as a fake (which Rose-mareus says s/he knows by private communication with the museum's director, so short of inquiring with the museum we have no way of verifying that. dab (ᛏ) 19:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vladikazvkaz disk 

message: I see that Latinus has just gone through and systematically replaced American with British spelling, including some slightly archaic choices, together with fixing a couple of genuine typoes. This sort of thing is undesirable. Please revert yourself. Septentrionalis 18:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - I thought it'd be alright. --Latinus 18:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: how, now, we are all pedants here (who else would bother about the Phaistos Dis[kc] in the first place), and I agree that we do not need to have 'centre'. But 'occurring' is surely straightforward, and 'artefact' is preferable too, imho. But we can postpone such quibbles for calmer times, obviously; let's work on the substance. dab (ᛏ) 19:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ocurring is not a style difference; it is a typo, and IIRC there was one other. Yes, let's have a good round talk about "artifact/artefact" some other time. Septentrionalis 21:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No harm done, or intended. I apologize if I was too stiff; this is one of my pet peeves, when done in either direction - see the rant on my user page.  Septentrionalis 21:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anglo-American spelling