Talk:Turks (Final Fantasy)

message: Does anyone know the origin of the (possibly politically incorrect) name "Turks"? ~GMH 06:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I really doubt that anyone will know the true origin of the Turks, but the best thing to come close to it is the Turks as we know them may be copied from the New York vice crime group known as the Turks. Hrm. Maybe the Japanese translation could shed some light, if anyone knows what it is? — CuaHL 09:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The New York thing sounds likely. Maybe Square's writers were looking for some reference to a mafia-style organization, and thought, "Hey, The Turks has a nice ring to it". It's pretty obvious that there's a reason for the dark suits they wear, and that combined with the Turks music points in that direction. Is there anything to confirm this link? Looked for interviews already linked on the main FF7 article but found nothing. I DID find a forum thread here that MIGHT be useful, but it's mostly speculation. Kennard2 01:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: That might be helpful, but from what I know, the English name might have been a newly derived name, and nothing like the Japanese name (Terrato/Midgar Zolom from Final Fantasy VI is an example).  Although, I haven't heard of that crime group before...assuming it's true, that sounds pretty likely. *looks on Wikipedia for just that* ~GMH 02:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

text: "Turks" is actually the original Japanese name (rendered as "TĀKUSU" タークス). Although Sony did botch some of the names when they translated FF7, this isn't one of them. Reichu 04:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Would the Ultimania handbook shed any light? I'm guessing any interviews of the creators out there would be a gold mine for this stuff. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kennard2 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name origin? 

message: The Turks page was advocating a somewhat incorrect idea about Tseng's name, so I took the liberty of making some much-needed corrections. Hopefully this will resolve the matter permanently. Reichu 04:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ...it may be late to add a comment, but...wow.  That katakana are pronounced "tson", just so you know. And using "Tseng" is called a Romanization.  The common thing is if it's derived from Chinese, normal Chinese Romanizations are used... And "Tseng" is pronounced "Tsong". The Chinese ending "g" sound is omitted in transliterations. And it's SEAN Connery.urutapu 15:48, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Who the bleep is 'Shion'? 

message: I've made a few minor changes to the Before Crisis Turks section, renaming them using a combination of their "names" in Last Order, and Before Crisis. In Last Order's credits, they're called "Turk (Gun)", for example, while in Before Crisis, that would be "Gun (Female)". So, I opted for "Female Turk (Gun)". The gender specifiers are a bit neccesary, since two of them are both "Martial Arts".
Removed the referance to Rod's weapon being an "Electro-Mag Rod", because it just isn't. It's simply a "Rod", which can later be replaced by the stronger "Pierce Rod" and "Light Rod". Any elemental properties that are attatched to it are defined by the materia equipped to it, just like with any of the weapons in Before Crisis. In fact, it's entirely questionable that Reno's weapon is even an "Electro-Mag Rod", as that's simply the name of an attack he uses.
Re-ordered them, to fall in line with the official "ordering", in which they are always listed male, female, male, female. This is the order that they are listed in the games, on the official website, and in just about every other Japanese website I've seen them in. I also removed further references to "Female A", or "Character B", etc., as those are not official, and are just a way that some fans choose to keep track of them.
Lastly, I renamed "Turk (Fencing)" to the far more accurate "Katana", as he's LITERALLY called 刀(男), or "Katana (Male)". I also changed "fencer" to the more accurate "swordsman", as he practices neither kendo or fencing. It's important to note the that he uses a Japanese katana, as opposed to a European type of sword.
WtW-Suzaku 08:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's nice. Someone just reverted all of the more accurate information and linked it to the Before Crisis section. There goes that work. WtW-Suzaku 05:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before Crisis Turks 

message: Can somebody show me a source to this so called "translation error" of Tseng's death someone keeps talking about?
:From what I hear the Final Fantasy Ultimania Omega guide would have it, but I don't own a copy.  I believe someone mentions it on either this page or on Talk:List of Final Fantasy VII characters.  Essentially, the PS1 English translation is Elena saying AVALANCHE "did in" her boss, which can mean either to do something bad to or, more commonly, to kill.  In the PC English translation, it's changed to something like "hurt".  I own both the PS1 and PC versions, but I don't have any save files on disc 2, so it would take me a while to get to it and check the dialogue.  Kasreyn 07:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tseng's Death

message: I'm searching for Reno's last name.. I know he has one and it should be listed here if anyone knows it.
:Uhm.  None of the other Turks do and I've never heard such a thing.—ウルタプ 04:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Searching for Reno 

message: After a heated debate with friends, is Rude black or heavily tanned?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Isatay (talk • contribs) 
:According to the new book out, he was imagined as "Of South American descent"71.212.245.60 04:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rude's Ethnicity 

message: "Near the end of Disc Two of Final Fantasy VII, the player has the option to fight Elena, Reno, and Rude, or refuse the battle. In either case the Turks survive, so there is no clear canonical outcome to this situation."
This appears three times on the page, once for each mentioned Turk. Is there some place it can be said once for all three of them? It might be best to create a section dedicated to the three of them and put that there, since they seem to work in a trio often enough. (In addition, I'm supposing there's going to be more info on how they're related to each other in the FF7 Ultimania or somewhere in the canon.) Kennard2 00:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated information