Talk:Noise (electronics)

message: The opening says Electronic noise is an unwanted signal characteristic, but that is not true. There are applications for using (and generating) noise. Otherwise you wouldn't have things like   . They're mostly for crypto, but I think I've seen uses in ham-radio (can't dig up the info ATM). Yngvarr (c) 12:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all well and good but we need a definition based on a reliable source. I am restoring a defintion consistent with what's in the first chapter of Motchenbacher & Connelly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvng (talk • contribs) 17:07, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have a 4th paragraph in the lead  This is paritally supported by . ~Kvng (talk) 19:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unwanted 

message: I think it will be appropriate that a description of the effects of noise be also included in the article. This could be in the form of noise that produces a noise emf or a noise current. Many students of electrical and electronic circuits would be interested to know what the resulting effect is; how exactly is the real or wanted signal affected by the emf or current fluctuations.
Sridhar10chitta (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good obsrvation and still not covered in the article. Effects include communications error. Hiss in audio systems. Jitter in digital signals. ~Kvng (talk) 19:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:   Effects of noise 

message: (transferred from user talk)
G'day, I hope that you are going to go back to the Noise (electronics) article and copyedit it, because what you reinstated is dreadful. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 12:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly you are right. The thoughts are to combine the new content - which is different from Electromagnetic compatibility - with the "Noise Reduction" section. Its not wrong now, i have to think maximum a few days. Difficult! The whole article, and even more, nearly all noise related article are NOT GOOD. A lot of work, hours, we will see if i start this. Tagremover (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

text: First version done. Tagremover (talk) 16:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noise (electronics) edits

message: I suggest merging noise generator into noise (electronics).
Currently there seems to be a lot of overlap between the two articles -- both articles have descriptions of thermal noise, shot noise, avalanche noise, etc.
Imagine a single article covering all three of (1) physical sources of noise, (2) techniques to minimize unwanted noise, and (3) techniques to deliberately amplify and collect "noise" as a noise generator.
I suspect such an article will much shorter than the total length of 3 separate articles to cover the same topics, and so it simplifies things to cover them all together in one article.
--DavidCary (talk) 02:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not oppose the suggestion. I am looking at noise from another angle, that of a user. From that perspective, the electronic noise article is about interference with a message, whereas noise generation appears to be about generic messages of a known strength, to a user. Thus a noise generator could be used for calibration, for example, to test the sensitivity of a communications circuit. Thus merging of the articles involves explaining at least two different topics in the same article, notwithstanding the common sections. --Ancheta Wis    (talk  | contribs) 04:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

text: I agree; two articles makes sense. Johnuniq (talk) 06:38, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge