Talk:KwaZulu-Natal

message: As of the ANC coming into power in the province, Pietermaritzburg is the sole capital. Below is a quote from the Premier, S'bu Ndebele's inauguration address, with a link to an online copy of the address, stating as such:
"In line with our election commitment, and the need for a single government that is not fragmented and disparate, Pietermaritzburg is both the legislative and executive capital of our province." 
Jcw69 reverted my changes to this effect in error (though has done a spectacular job of listing all the towns in the province by region :) ).
Some explanation of the history of this description (I think I put this in, but maybe it got taken out?) might be useful.
-kierano
PMB is the only capital. Wizzy 21:02, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
: I appologise, I far as I knew both Pmb and Ulundi shared capital status, but that was before last years elections and I never came across anything to the contrary until now. Thanks --Jcw69 07:21, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The same statement (that there are two capitals) is also in Provinces of South Africa, so you might want to change that if it's no longer the case. Nyh 07:22, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Capital of the Province

message: This page links to the disambiguation page Corn, but I'm not sure which sense is intended.  Can you help?  Thanks. — Pekinensis 21:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 08:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corn 

message: Is there a reference for the claim that there are plans to rename KZN simply KwaZulu? I very much doubt it's true. Joziboy 23 April 2006, 13:46 (UTC)
:Also, there doesn't seem to be an article on (the now defunct) Natal - if someone wants to start that? There's only this current page, and one about the Boer Republic of Natalia. But there are pages for all of the other old provinces (Cape Province, Orange Free State and Transvaal), so there should really be an article on the province of Natal. Joziboy 23 April 2006, 13:59 (UTC)
::I've noticed that comment on renaming, and it's bugging me, too. I'm taking it out until someone can show substantiation. If anything, it doesn't belong in the opening paragraph. 
::I've been thinking about a Natal page, too. I have been doing some work lately on the history section on the Zulu page, much of which is intertwined with the history of Natal, both as a British colony and as a province. Maybe when I get time...-Kieran 09:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Province of Natal should have its own article, I came here looking for it and was suprised it isnt here --Astrokey44 02:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming? 

message: An annonymous editor has asserted that KwaZulu Natal is a monarchy.  This is not the case.  The Zulu King is king of the Zulu people, not of the Xhosa people, nor of the Indian people nor of the white people, all of whom are resident in KwaZulu-Natal.  His role is like that of a Scottish clan chief or an archbishop.  He has influence in KwaZulu Natal (where over half the people are Zulu), but no authority, so the province is not a monarchy. Martinvl (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Although the King of the Zulus receives some funding from the provincial government, he has no role - not even a formal one - in the government. He does not open the provincial legislature, or appoint the Premier, or sign provincial Acts, or do any of the other things that parliamentary monarchs do. - htonl (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Article 46 of the proposed KZN constitution however provides for a monarch of Kwazulu-Natal, who is the same person that holds the office of Zulu King. While this constitution still needs to be adopted, the Zulu King is regarded as the nominal monarch for the Province. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 21:05, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read the whole of the constitution, you will see that the monarch does not play a role in government - the role that one would expect of of monarch in government is taken by the premier and, in the absence of a premier, the chief justice. Martinvl (talk) 04:20, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  KwaZulu Natal is not a monarchy 

message: I added the coat of arms, and understand that it may be outdated, but since their is a section on the coat of arms, there should probably be an image of the coat of arms somewhere on the page, if not then maybe one needs uploading?Jacsam2 (talk) 19:00, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The currrent coat of arms can be found here.  There is a specific note on the page regarding use in Wikipedia. Martinvl (talk) 19:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the current coat of arms from the provincial government website. The NGW website does have a note about allowing use of the images on Wikipedia, but since he received the image "as a scan from a newspaper clipping" he doesn't actually have the copyright authority to allow us to use it. However, we can use the image on this article under the non-free content criteria. - htonl (talk) 20:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coat of Arms 

message: Pre history section is needed, Where Zulu people the first settlers or is there evidence of another group of people who settled prior to Bantu expansion?--Inayity (talk) 13:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-History 

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message: Natal, South Africa should be merged into this article as there isn't really any much different information in the previous article. Llightex (talk) 18:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: In fact, if there are no objections, I'll do just that (in a week or so, anyway). Thoughts? Moonraker12 (talk) 22:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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