Talk:Celebrity Big Brother (British series 5) racism controversy

message: The two articles have duplicate content. It may be better to move this page to the CBB page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.194.26 (talk) 12:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: The two photos, side by side, with Jade Gooody shouting and Shilpa Shetty crying are a bit loaded. Where they taken at approximately the same time? Is there any connection between whatever it is that Jade Goody is shouting and Shilpa Shetty's tears? If not then different pictures might be in order.--Timtak (talk) 00:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's loaded about it? This is the typical image that was broadcast on most TV stations and printed in many newspapers (some international) at the time this issue occurred. If nothing else, the image is of historical interest I believe. Ekantik talk 03:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would depend on the answers to my questions.--Timtak (talk) 09:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree entirely with the image being inappropriate. Wikipedia is known for providing complete, unbiased information - and this image only serves to contradict that. The images were taken at separate times and shouldn't be used as an example of each individual when placed side-by-side. We should strive to be unbiased in this corner of the internet, rather than hosting images distributed by the media to make this particular person, whether they are bad or not, look bad. ¬ 86.148.199.98 (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said, this is the typical image that was employed in broadcast media at the time this was happening. It is of historical interest if nothing else. There is nothing "biased" about it, it is simply a random shot of both characters during their time on the show. Regarding "looking bad", that is also sourced reliably since the reliable sources painted Goody as "bad" and Shetty as "good" or the "victim". The title of this section ("photos are bad for jade goody's image") is itself a statement of bias. Wikipedia is not in the business of protecting people's image either. Ekantik talk 01:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia certainly must be unbiased. However I would venture to guess that glamor shots of each would be highly inappropriate in this context, as would be any concern for Goody's "image." Scenes from the show seem correct to me, and Shetty crying is appropriate since I'm pretty sure the tears were in reaction to Goody's comments.  As for Goody, while her photo reflects the ugliness of her racism, I think that the unsigned commenter above makes a good point. A despicable figure doesn't necessarily require a distorted photo.  We should probably get a photo of Goody during one of her numerous racist rants. sæ (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Sae, that is actually a screenshot from one of the racist arguments. I expect it can be verified from the brown dress she seems to be wearing, and the correlations with numberless YouTube clips of the event out there. Ekantik talk 01:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's the case, I agree with you Ekantik.  And I think Timtak would, too, considering Timtak's desire for some correlation between the image and the controversy. sæ (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I have just come to this page for the first time and i can tell you from a neutral stand point (myself being a british-indian in London) that the photos side by side immediately depict Jade Goody in an almost melodramatically bad light.  I accept that Goody et al made abhorrent racial slurs towards Shilpa Shetty but i think we can all agree that the main cause of the fractional conflict was a clash of personalities... i.e two undisputed queens of the tabloids being thrust together.  The bullying and arguments that followed took on a racist dimension as a result of the uncultured ignorance of an extremely dim example of a white working class Londoner. Further more the comments on the page that allude to Mr Tweedy's comments towards Miss Shetty are examples of insults that are nothing to do with race (save the insubstantial - 'bleeped-out expletive variously reported as cunt or paki'), I have called people of many diverse races a wanker.. for example.  With regards to the historical importance of the images, i do not remember these particular images being any more published or exposed than the myriad of other pictures that arose at the time.  Honestly, this issue shouldn't be any more racially charged than it already is, some disgusting things were broadcast to the nation and as such this article deserves to as unbiased as possible.  Anyone can see that the article as it stands is less than partisan at first glance.... Djt98 (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos are awful for Jade Goody's image

message: I'm fairly sure there was something similar with him, but it's not on this page. What was it? 81.132.127.224 (talk) 21:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: White trash isnt a racist term degorative maybe but not racist Jade Goody wasnt even white she was 1/4 black from her dad's side  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss-simworld (talk • contribs) 10:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jackson racism 

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message: Surely this should be included in the "after the event" section? 12bigbrother12 23:40, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick search led me to this article on Shetty commenting the subject. http://news.uk.msn.com/entertainment/article.aspx?cp-documentid=15353626 12bigbrother12 23:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Goody's death

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message: She actually said "Your claim to fame is this."
Goody took that to mean that she was being belittled because she was only famous through reality TV.
In interviews after the show, Shetty remaked that her meaning was that Goody was famous for her behavior (ignorant and rude).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.47.235 (talk) 11:18, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shetty's remark about Jade Goody 

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message: Inaccurate and a generalisation—Jade is not fully white. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 01:23, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "All of whom are white British" 

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replies: text: Celebrity Big Brother (British series 5) racism controversy →  – The current title is overly specific - if there was a separate Celebrity Big Brother racism controversy I could understand the disambiguation, but to my knowledge there isn't. Either Celebrity Big Brother racism controversy or Big Brother racism controversy should suffice for Wikipedia. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:53, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 September 2022