Talk:Wallonia

message: You wrote: "Tourism is an important part of the economy of Wallonia.  According La Libre Belgique on 26 August 2010: 9,8 millions visitors in 2009 (2,8 in Brussels), 6 % of the regional economy (15% in Brussels)". It is unclear what this means. Is this for the French Community? Does the 9.8 figure include the 2.8 in Brussels? And does the 6% include Brussels or just Wallonia? Oreo Priest talk 07:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourism figures 

message: There is no dish identified with the Belgian nation as a whole. Culinary cultures of Europe: identity, diversity and dialogue, p. 79 For me this citation is relevant. Mussels may not be identified with Belgium as a whole. Even beer, you have many kinds of beer and many countries where beers do exist. That depends on the product, of the kinfd of beer. For instance ORVAL and its taste depends of the water in the Gaume, and that is impossible to find this tatste in Flanders. What is more, Orval is a beer which is very different of all the other beers. I drink a glass of Orval each day but that is very different from  the other beers. I have an argument for that. Do ypu Know "La première gorgée de bière" of Philippe Delerm?  He said that only the first "gorgée" is great. That is not the case for Orval.  People define  ORval as a beer of whicht the taste doesn't cease to be a surprise. I recognize that the discussions about cuisne are al ittle difficult and often a little absurd. But.... But the Orval's definition is the good, very pertinent.
(Dear Oreo it is also a way to say you Good after-noon and to wish you an happy niew year...)
José Fontaine (talk) 16:28, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy new year to you too! But the source is clearly wrong. Even the Belgian federal government said that moule-frites was the national dish in a tourism video. Maybe for Belgians, Liège waffles are thought to be a local specialty, for example, but you'll have no more trouble finding them in a store in Oostend than in Liège itself. To the rest of the world, it's all Belgian. Oreo Priest talk 18:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

text: But it seems dangerous to go further...
José Fontaine (talk) 19:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cuisine 

message: Standard Liege, Mons, Charleroi, Eupen, Tubize, Tournai, RFC Liege,(and in the past; Mouscron, La Louviere, Seraing), what else? Böri (talk) 12:34, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, beside the Sporting de Charleroi there is an Olympic de Charleroi which is noticeable.  One may also perhaps add the Union Royale Namur.  One can also mention the two clubs of Verviers as Walloon football teams with a past, i.e. the R.C.S. Verviétois, i.e. the former C.S. Verviers, and the SRU Verviers (I have just seen it disapeared in 2010).  It in fact depends to which level of detail you want to go.  --Lebob (talk) 12:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Individual sports teams shouldn't be included at all. Oreo Priest talk 04:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football teams of Wallonia 

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message: Both articles deal with the same subject. There is no difference between the Walloon Region and Wallonia like there is not difference between Belgium and the Kingdom of Belgium. Both articles should be merged together.--Wester (talk) 14:36, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. While the article "Wallonia" may describe the region both as an institutional Region and as a cultural area, the current article "Walloon Region (federal region)" does not add any value, it just provides information that is mostly already present on "Wallonia". It is a much shorter article and it is linked from only few other pages; most pages link to Wallonia directly even when the federal region is meant. In short, I see no value in keeping this (duplicate) article. Thanks for bringing this up, I have wanted to make this a redirect before but then I would've needed to start a discussion first :) SPQRobin (talk) 17:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I partly agree with both of you, but I do like having a separate page for the legal entity. It and its history are a real subject, and it helps with clarity for details best not included in a full page on Wallonia. There is also a Flemish Region page for what it's worth, and for a non-Belgian page on a purely political construct, see United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Another of my fears is that through this move the page goes back to the awful separation it had before: where Walloon Region is considered a totally separate topic, and where Wallonia is a nebulous concept with no political status or territory. I suppose my position is a weak oppose. Oreo Priest talk 14:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Imho you can't really compare the Walloon Region (or any federal/political entity) with the US court article. It is rather about an administrative entity or body, in a very different way from federal/political entities. A better comparison would be e.g. the German federal states; you have an article "Bavaria" which is based on the entity "Free State of Bavaria" and there is no separate article for that entity even if Bavaria previously encompassed a different area. Flanders is a separate case since there are actually two different entities, the region and community, so it makes sense to have articles on both, in addition to Flanders. If Walloon Region is merged into the article Wallonia, in addition to improving the article Wallonia, it may help to refer more clearly to e.g. Communities, regions and language areas of Belgium and State reform in Belgium for its institutional history; those pages could explain it more clearly in its historical and political context. Belgian federal entities are extremely similiar institutionally anyway. SPQRobin (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't see how the Flemish Region is different; Wallonia also has the French Community. I do think you make a good point about Communities, regions and language areas of Belgium and State reform in Belgium being better pages for the detail I was defending. I suppose that changes my position to support. Oreo Priest talk 20:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference with the French Community is made clear by the name they give themselves: Fédération Wallonie-Bruxelles. Unlike Flanders, which is in fact one entity based on two institutional entities, the French Community is an entity consisting of Wallonia one the one hand and French-speaking Brussels on the other hand. SPQRobin (talk) 21:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is just semantics, because we agree on the main point of course, but Flanders is also the region, plus partial jurisdiction in Brussels, same as their French speaking counterparts. Oreo Priest talk 14:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The French Community and Walloon Region are not merged. The Flemish Community and Region are.--Wester (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walloon Region (federal region) and Wallonia (again) 

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#Was not merged by whom, when, as part of what?
#A political level of what?
#"Contrary to the situation in Flanders": does this mean that Flanders was merged with the French Community of Belgium?
The only vague hint at an answer that I can find in the article is the short sentence at the end of the History section beginning "This led to State reform in Belgium..." Clicking any of the links in the lead or the article proper doesn't help, because the linked articles are even more confusing than this one. Possibly what that sentence is trying to say is that the Walloon Region is not coterminous with the French Community, in the way that the Flemish region is coterminous with the Flemish Community; I don't know. It needs to be either fixed or deleted.  Scolaire (talk) 12:33, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaningless sentence in lead 

message: Whenever a proper name has been translated or exists with more than one language version, the native language version should be given inline on the first mention, in italics. (Do not publish my IP under any circumstances, this means you.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.157.18 (talk) 10:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of English translations without native language term inline 

message: I don't understand why Wallonia is the symbolism for the Indian blanket flower. Also known as Gaillardia. Can anyone help me out? 174.247.224.238 (talk) 04:47, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Researching my favorite flower