Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fascism/Archive 4

message: I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of :Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 21:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject cleanup listing 

message: I would like to question the use of the word execution with respect to the ideological and political victims of the left and right.
Execution in the sense of death is defined as:
 3. The act or an instance of putting to death or being put to death as a lawful penalty.
Hence the actions at Babi Yar by Jeckeln, Blobel and others were deemed acts of:
Crimes against humanity through persecutions on political, racial, and religious grounds, murder, extermination, imprisonment, and other inhumane acts committed against civilian populations, including German nationals and nationals of other countries, as part of an organized scheme of genocide.
These acts were not carried out with due process of law, genocide I understand was an illegal act even in NAZI Germany.
If my position is agreed with, then, I believe that all articles referring to the death of people in an illegal act should be referred to as murder and genocide, that the word execution is removed as it gives a sense of legitimacy to something that clearly is not. We are in danger of trivialising the horror's that took place in most of Europe in the first half of the twentieth century.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmaciocia (talk • contribs) 20:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the term "EXECUTION" in articles referring to criminal acts of left or right. 

message: Does this fall within the scope of this project? __meco (talk) 17:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if the definition of the Unite Against Fascism group is used.  It does not really fall into the general definition of fascism otherwise. Collect (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And it would probably be hard to find a less discriminating fascism-labeler than UAF and similar groups? Anyway, the question remains whether this WikiProject thinks the EDL belongs under your auspices? __meco (talk) 23:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not, to my recollection, made any edits whatsoever to that article.  Collect (talk) 00:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the issue of you having edited that article is relevant to this thread. The reason I posted here is that one user insists that the  template belongs on Talk:English Defence League, something which I seriously question.  __meco (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I appear to agree with you - the EDL (despicable) != "fascist" as this project defines fascism.  I think your use of "your" above should have been "its" ?  Collect (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I was addressing the WikiProject members, but I see that it could be interpreted otherwise. __meco (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[English Defence League]] 

message: I'm sick of people trying to put Nazism and Fascism as one. Skinheads, racism and all that junk have nothing to do with fascism, read up on Mussolini himself he rejected Hitler's ideas on race as nonsense. Since he created Fascism or at least was one of the creators of it his opinion should carry weight rather then leftist on here trying to taint Fascism.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.116.53 (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazism is Not Fascism 

message: Truth was actually not a Fascist publication - the accusations made by Josiah Wedgewood were refuted!  (There had actually been a personal feud going on between Wedgewood and Truth's editor at the time, and this was Wedgie being naughty ..... I know this from parts of the Journals of the editor, but these were parts not published in Crowson's book).  Can you please remove the Fascism flag from the article, as it's inaccurate?  Pesky (talk …stalk!) 21:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I can do that myself, I've just realised!  Sorry to have bothered you.  Pesky (talk …stalk!) 21:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Truth (British periodical)]] 

message: Cf. Wiki-Watch: the Law Department took no action - instead wiki-watch appears to be a private project in the name of the university. What's more, wiki-watch suffers a serious loss of credibility, cf. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:KarlV/Wiki-Watch_Juni_2011. Wiki-watch is not able to resolve the (imaginary) problem of communist or nazi-motivated edits. I doubt wiki-watch is worth mentioning here if it ever was. Renate Druschinski (talk) 23:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Fascism#Similar_WikiProjects|Similar WikiProjects]] 

message: There is a new WikiProject whose aim is to provide Wikipedia resources and a common discussion for political culture articles. This includes Anarchism, Corporatism, Oligarchy, Liberalism, Socialism and Fascism. Since this Fascism project appears to be semi-active, this could help revitalize the discussion, and expand the pool of possible editors. Greg Bard (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Political culture