Talk:Greg Abbott

message: Seems like the last edit by Snooganssnoogans on this page was made to look like a small edit while changing the the content that was there before drastically.  I am a novice editor so maybe I’m missing something. Maxmaximus22 (talk) 03:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What’s up with the last edit? 

message: I do not want to be accussed of WP:RECENTISM so should this kind of content as outlined in these RSs be added? Or should we wait for more time to pass? . Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 00:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the incident. It appears to pass the WP:10YEARTEST and continued to garner coverage into the next month. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Abbott threatens arrest of state reps content

message: To say that Abbott "he claimed without evidence that migrants were spreading COVID-19 in Texas" is demonstrably false. But since I see it has been reverted and re-reverted, I'll be crystal clear:
*Per the cited sources, Abbott's  "crucial claim" was not that "migrants were spreading COVID-19 in Texas"—it was that: "The Biden Administration is recklessly releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants who have COVID into Texas communities."
*The Biden Administration was "releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants who have COVID into Texas communities"—that's acknowledged in the cited fact-checks and was in numerous news reports to which the "fact-checks" themselves link.  .
*What's more: even though Abbott didn't claim it, "Migrants" were "spreading Covid-19 in TX". Again, this is not in dispute—the "fact-checks" confirm it.
*The "fact checks" try to claim that part of what was "false" about Abbott's actual statement was that some "migrants" were not "illegal immigrants" as he claimed, because they were "asylum seekers" on "parole"—except that the Forbes source cited  links to articles that state clearly that "migrant families with children who’ve crossed illegally into the U.S. are being released in Texas by border patrol officials"—i.e., "illegal immigrants" per Abbott's statements.
*Ultimately, the "fact checks" try to make hay of the fact that the numbers in the news reports to which they link (which Abbott never cited) show that, while hundreds of Covid-19-positive illegal immigrants were released into the US as Abbott claimed, their contribution to the total number of infections was not that "significant" or "far from the biggest factor in containing the virus’ spread"—again, confirming Abbott's actual claims and refuting ones he never made.
*The "fact checks" freely acknowledge that no one knows the true number of Covid-positive migrants, legal or illegal, who have been released into the US, or how many people they infected.
In other words: incorrectly citing "fact checks" which don't in fact contradict Abbott's actual statements does not a reliable encyclopedia make. The bottom line:
#Abbott's actual claim obviously needs to be included—not simply whatever the "fact checks" claim to have checked.
#To correctly describe the cited "fact checks", our article would need to say something like: "While 'fact checks' corroborated Abbott's claim that the Biden Administration had released hundreds of Covid-positive illegal immigrants into the US, the true number released is unknown, and the experts they quote argue that they were not the main cause of Covid's spread in Texas."
#It is flatly untrue to say that Abbott "claimed without evidence that migrants were spreading Covid-19"—because none of the cited sources actually say this. One claims that there's no evidence migrants "significantly" spread Covid, but again, that's not what Abbott claimed—or even what the problematic sentence in this article says he did. Even if Abbott had claimed that "migrants were spreading Covid-19", it would not be true that the "fact-checks" state he did so "without evidence".
#The relevance of this entire kerfuffle is questionable—it got some headlines, but in hindsight seems to me pretty clearly a tempest in a teapot and a WP:NOTNEWS issue. The truth is that the very real and growing problem with Covid-19-infected illegal immigrants, including an exploding number of children carrying the illness, has yet to play out—and will be better added to Wikipedia with the benefit of some hindsight. Abbott doesn't make or enforce immigration policy, so the fact that he complains about it is only tangentially related to his article, and hardly an important component of its "Covid-19" section.
Let's please bring some "fact-checking" and common-sense to this article, and skip the POV-pushing—starting by removing the false statement about Abbott making claims (which he never made) "without evidence". Thanks! Elle Kpyros (talk) 06:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think you made a good case. I agree. Lets remove false segments if Abbott didn't make those claims. EliteArcher88 (talk) 19:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues of accuracy in COVID-19 section that relies on "fact-checks" 

message: 1. One of the shortest stay-at-home orders in the nation, 2. Prohibitions on local mask mandates, 3. Prohibitions on local and private business vaccine requirements. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 00:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are those specifics WP:DUE or worthy of inclusion for the lead?  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 19:30, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

text: The specifics are WP:UNDUE. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 21:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The specifics of Abbott's COVID-19 response should be in the lead 

message: Why does this article use a random photo off of Flickr instead of his official portrait as governor?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamalkemal (talk • contribs) 19:54, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Flickr image has an explict release of copyright. The official portrait is not a work of a federal employee, and is not automatically public domain.  You'd need to clear up the license to start with. Kuru (talk) 01:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not use his official portrait? 

message: Is the phrase "businessman" really an accurate way to start off the lead? Abbott was most notably a judge before entering higher-level politics, and a lawyer before that. I can get referring to him as a "politician and attorney," which seems standard, but "businessman" seems inaccurate. Marquisate (talk) 21:23, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to have been addressed. I would oppose him being described as a businessman. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 03:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language in lead 

message: Hi other admins. It seems the page was deleted due to a vandalism move, but the number of revisions is too great to undelete en masse, as it runs into a software timeout. I've just restored the first handful of revisions in order to get the page back up, but we'll need to figure out how to restore the rest soon. May need a dev to help :/ - Alison talk 16:01, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporarily undeleted a subset of revisions 

message: Concerning recent events in Texas, should they be mentioned or should we wait to see how the situation evolves ?
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1750235544951349275 Maxime12346 (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability of recent events. 

message: I believe he has stated last night on NBC news, that he's running for a fourth term as Texas governor, when asked if he'd accept the 2024 Republican vice presidential nomination. GoodDay (talk) 16:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  2026 Texas gubernatorial election 

message: Abbott's disability (paralysis) and it's cause (spinal injury) is referred to in a paragraph titled "wheelchair use". This title feels like a strange euphemism, that implies that disability is taboo or too shameful to directly address, except by referring to the mobility aid he uses. 
 I suggest that the paragraph be re-titled "Disability", in line with Stephen Hawking's page, or "1984 injury"? Or whatever Wikipedia norms require. 81.157.205.18 (talk) 13:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disability