Talk:The Lumberjack Song

message: I came to this page as I was reasonably sure that it's not a completely original Monty Python song, but a derivative, maybe plagarised from a traditional song or similar. Am I misguided? Could someone clarify? Perhaps check liner notes for writing credits?
:Several years ago, my then-gf told me she had just heard a relatively obscure classical piece in which she distinctly heard the melody of "I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars."  I think she said it was Mozart, or possibly Beethoven, but she's passed on so I can't ask her about it now.
:I just heard it in Mozart's Don Giovanni, so two points for "then-gf".  And this is noted below by another user in 2007, because the portion is called Là ci darem la mano.162.205.217.211 (talk) 18:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Michael Palin is quoted in the book The First 2OØ Years of Monty Python by Kim "Howard" Johnson (pp 60-61) stating that he and Terry Jones wrote it in about 30 minutes: "It's just an amalgam of various of those sort of jolly musicals-cum-stirring march-type songs." Fitfatfighter 09:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Lumberjack Song may be related to Là ci darem la mano.--Oxonian2006 18:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Was this a cover?

message: It's supposed to be: "I wish I'd been a girlie just like my dear mama" 
However, someone seems to like enjoying changing it. Anyone who has actually listened
to the song will be able to see that he's saying "maaaa-ma". However, there may be other 
versions which I am not aware of, in which case i'd concede.
:I have the "Monty Python Sings" CD(originally released on LP), in which he clearly sings "pappa", as is confirmed by the lyrics booklet. Incidentally, in this version, its a weatherman he doesn't want to be, lots of things seem to change from version to version. I find "pappa" funnier.
:Boffy b 13:54, 2004 Sep 18 (UTC)
::I also have "Money Python Sings" (on tape), and, having listened to it hundreds of times on my daily school commute, can attest that the line is "Papa" in that version.  And yes, in that version, his maligned job is that of "weather forecaster."  -- ctp
::I'm pretty sure I've heard both. -- Cyrius|✎ 23:09, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: To be complete: The original TV was Mama. The Hollywood Bowl and the audio recordings use Papa. And the German episode - due to differences in lingua, uses "Uncle Walter" (to rhyme with "halter" - bra). D.valued 19:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ps: Why spoiler? D.valued 19:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

text: In And Now for Something Completely Different, the last line of the song is "I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear papa." --Idont Havaname (Talk) 04:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was "mama" on the original TV episodes, and then "papa" in ANFSCD as well as the Hollywood Bowl concert. Wahkeenah 04:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lyrics are incorrect. 

message: :*This should be incorporated into the article or left out.  See WP:TRIV. John Reaves 22:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *The mention of the German version should be in the main article. --Vaughnstull 01:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Monty Python at one point do this with a lumberjack designed intentionally to resemble Hitler, and then a German woman says, in German "he seemed so rugged" with English subtitles?  I  have distinct memories of this, but haven't found a reliable source...anyone recall this?
MorteTheSkull 06:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler reference 

message: Who wrote the lyrics to the German broadcast version? This should be mentioned in the article as well, plus any variations in their translation. 147.70.242.40 15:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German lyrics by... 

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thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: The song does not name the trees by their scientific names. Larch, Scotts Pine etc are their common names so why is this in the artical?Wild ste (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scientific Names

message: "The sketch took its inspiration from a discussion Palin had with an assistant cameraman, in which the subject was the cameraman's former jobs. One of the jobs was revealed to be that of a lumberjack."
I was sure that I saw in an interveiw/doccumentary on BBC2 that Terry Jones and Michael Palin were writing a sketch about a newsreader and where having a lot of trouble coming up with ideas until one of them suddenly said the intro, namely "I didn't want to do this, I wanted to be a lumberjack" and then they managed to write the whole song in 30 mins.Wild ste (talk) 20:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where this sketch came from?

message: The first time they did this song on Monty Python's Flying Circus, Eric Idle sang the song. On "And Now for Something Completely Different" and other taped performances, Michael Palin sang it. The article says it was the other way around. Were there earlier stage performances?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.170.96 (talk) 03:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ...except that that's not true. In the first TV performance, on Monty Python's Flying Circus, Michael Palin sang the song (abandoning his job as blood-stained barber). And Connie Booth was his "girlie". As far as I know, this was the only time the song ended with "my dear Mama", and the girl cried that he was so "rugged", rather than "butch". 108.1.69.22 (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First TV performance was Eric Idle

message: The link for Fred Tomlinson points to a footballer born in 1886. Acidtoyman (talk) 07:25, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Fred Tomlinson Link

message: Not sure if it is worth mentioning but in NZ The Lumberjack Song was re-purposed in an advertisement for well known mint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3PqQqwQSe0 Abeorch (talk) 10:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture - NZ 

message: Why is the log rolling event in World Games not mentioned? It's the most appropriate reference in any computer game I know. --217.226.89.108 (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epyx' World Games 

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