Talk:Sevdalinka

message: It's not hard to see that author's (or authors' as it may be) knowledge about music and especially world folk music in general is very, very basic. For example in multiple locations the term harmony is used despite the fact that sevdalinka, like majority of folk music, does not feature harmony in any example I've heard. 
Harmony is a concept of western classical music that defines specific rules of polyphonic movement, and polyphonic accompaniment to melodic content (most specifically, chord progressions, and features such as arpeggio and ostinato) and until very, very recently (read: 20th century) it was related exclusively to diatonic scales, and virtually unused and unknown in any modal system save from very developed forms of Indian classical music which sevdalinka has no direct relation to any way.
Yes, in modern interpretation sevdalinka songs have been somewhat harmonized to an extent, for purpose of instrumental accompaniment, but sevdalinka, like most folk music, is modal -- meaning that it uses characteristic, non-diatonic scales and rules of melodic movement such as often and common use of minor second and minor third to establish it's sad, melancholic mode, and moreover, sevdalinka is purely melodic, and originally fully monophonic music (even in modern days instruments typically fully follow the main melody of the vocal, with only infrequent oblique features but none or scarce harmony at best). The only polyphonic musical traditions from Bosnia are gange and "žetalačke pjesme" but even their polyphony is actually heterophonic, dissonant, and as a consequence actually in-harmonic.
While there is only inferrential evidence, sevdalinka is by largest part based off Sephardic and Al-Andalus music (even lyricaly, such as the omnipresent "aman, aman" figure that has evident prior usage in Ladino and Andalusian music centuries before the Turks came to Bosnia) to the extent that some songs use the same melodies or blocks of text translated from Ladino. To some extent it's also based on folk traditions of middle east that originate in Iraq and have been brought to Balkans by Turks, and old Ilyrian and Slavic folklore indigenous to Balkans. But it also has roots in ancient Balkanic music that ancient balkanic conquerors of Anatolia brought there (the Phrygians), which is all those Greek-like elements, and those elements Turks actually found in their new homeland and embraced into their culture.
I'm writing this because last time I edited the article, some "biser" reverted on basis of purely not having a clue what I'm talking about.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.78.201.134 (talk) 10:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I like this rant, like any other based on factoids and strawman. Who knew, sevdalinka, contrary to all we know about it, is not a Bosnian song after all ;-P ౪ Santa ౪99° 17:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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message: Maybe this is a dumb question but I can't find it confirmed anywhere. Bosnian? Please add this info. 166.196.114.12 (talk) 07:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What language is sevdalinka in?