Talk:Illuminates of Thanateros

message: In the article it says that Every Adept, Magus, and Magister Templi (leader of a local group) has an Insubordinate.  In the UK this position is pretty much a theoretical ideal only and doesn't often exist in practice.Merkinsmum 17:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for that statement? 217.234.239.226 01:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Insubordinate

message: "It can be little doubted that Mr. Williams was able to create influences long after his transition,  as would be the case if he were an adept of time magicks."
I'm afraid it can be doubted, because I don't know which Bob Williams is being referred to, the only ones with wikipedia articles are sportspersons:)  Please can someone enlighten or share which Bob Williams is being referred to in the article?Merkinsmum 18:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed, as no encyclopedic value was apparent. 217.234.239.226 01:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bob Williams

message: This section seems clearly the weakest in the article, with no sources and much ado about individuals that do not otherwise seem to merit Wikipedia notice. Someone might be able to salvage it, but perhaps to remove it completely would be best. 217.234.239.226 01:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Section IOT in the USA

message: ::I have come here in response to a request for a Third Opinion.  I have no knowledge of the topic under discussion, but the heart of the problem here appears to me to be a matter of application of Wikipedia policies and guidelines.  According to WP:V, when a claim is contested, the editor inserting the claim is obliged to provide a reliable source to document.  The more unusual the claim, the more reliable a source is required.  "If such sources are not available, the material should not be included."  Accordingly, even if an editor knows a fact to be perfectly true, if he cannot provide a reliable third-party source, then there is no justification for not removing it.  Since two editors here have called on 67.177.27.74 to provide reliable sourcing for the material he or she wishes to add, it is his/her responsibility to do so – or yield the point.  Please note, that if no such source can be found immediately, it can still be added later, if and when appropriate sources are found.  Askari Mark (Talk) 02:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no further discussion, I will be unwatching this article. If further questions arise, please alert me on my talk page. Cheers, Askari Mark (Talk) 21:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

text: RfC Comment: The IP contributor repeatedly says that the addition that he is making is undisputed fact; if that is the case, it should be easy to find a reference that backs up his additions.  In the absence of such a reference, the addition of this material obviously fails WP:V and should be excluded from the article.  --Clay Collier (talk) 03:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

text: RfC Comment: If the claim is factual, then there certainly should be reliable sources as per WP:RS that substantiate that. Any information added to any article which is not reliably sourced is eligible for deletion. As long as the material is not sourced, it should be excluded from the article. John Carter (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for third opinion

message: I've removed mention of Z(cluster) because the one source was self-published and the other was simply linkspam to their website.  I didn't tag the article as such, but it looks like there are many, similar problems in the article. --Ronz (talk) 22:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-published sources and linkspam

message: The phrase "the pact" is first used in the History section, Crisis sub section, paragraph 2, without any explanation as to what the phrase "the pact" actually means.  From the context, I am guessing that "the pact" is a vernacular name for the Illuminates of Thanateros, but I do not know much about this group, so I can not say for certain.  Can somebody who knows more about this define "the pact" somewhere in the article?  Bubblesort (talk) 10:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, I think. I added an explanation in the Name section and replaced most instances of "Pact" in the text. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 10:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: The Pact?

message: Anyone have any idea what the IP's problem is? They're reverting a huge mess of recent improvements so it's hard to tell. They mentioned something about "Australia spam" and apparently me promoting something, but I'm not affiliated with IoT or anyone in there in any way, nor with any of the sources I used. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 01:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno, but i just protected the article for a month. The IP is, of course, welcome to come here and discuss the issue rather than edit warring. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
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