Talk:Four Last Songs

message: According to http://www.richard-strauss.com/chrono.html the 4 L.Lieder are not final works (as stated in the beginning of the article). The following are:
*Malven for voice and piano (Koch), and
*Des Esels Schatten Comedy in six scenes (Adler) - which is last on the chronological list
4 L.L. may be "among" the final, but not final.
Ziga (talk) 13:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This is useful for people who want to orientate themselves and/or compare existing recording  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Remkojas (talk • contribs) 13:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Considering the number of existing recordings, there really ought to be a discography in the article (or as a spinoff from it). --GuillaumeTell 20:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recorded interpretations 

message: The external links to the free recordings are not working on my computer. If this is a general problem it might be a good idea to delete them. Francesco Malipiero (talk) 15:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: Can someone please add the Opus number(s) for these Four Last Songs? Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 00:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: * Nothing is stopping you, , from finding the information and doing it yourself. Why make more work for someone else?--ColonelHenry (talk) 01:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

text: *  a quick google search or a look at List of compositions by Richard Strauss would have answered your question. but three weeks later you didn't bother, so I did it for you. smh.--ColonelHenry (talk) 03:30, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opus number? 

message: In addition to the above discussion ... why do we state that "There is no indication that Strauss conceived these songs as a unified set", when in fact Strauss sought Flagstad out to premiere the four songs as a set? Per the article in TIME, and the fact that she did so, with Furtwangler (by the way, the full TIME article is pay-per-view, but the relevant facts and quotation are quoted, and I have the full text of the article if anyone wants it). In any case, I think we should remove the statement as unsupported. Or at least tag it. Softlavender (talk) 13:31, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "There is no indication that Strauss conceived these songs as a unified set." 

message: I personally find this image on the newly added infobox very jarring. It's glare-y and over-exposed, and the sky looks like Spumoni. It also seems rather obviously to be a B&W image that has been (badly) colorized. I would prefer not having an image on the infobox to having that one. If there is consensus to have an image, I would prefer finding a much better one -- probably a black&white one. As a last resort, the image could be cropped to remove most of the sky. Opinions? Softlavender (talk)
: <unrelated discussion moved to section below> ... indeed the picture is ghastly. Croppping it would make the face of the composer even more like a discoloured meringue.--Smerus (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, let's separate out the discussion of the infobox (seemingly always a contentious subject) and the image, if we could. May I start a separate thread and move part of your comment to the appropriate section (or you can do that after I make the new section)? I really want to discuss only the image in this one thread. Softlavender (talk) 01:54, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Comme tu veux. I'm really not interested in discussing the infobox further, I've made my point! If others have views on it they can respond in your new section and I may respond to their comments. I agree with you that the picture degrades the article, I believe the infobox does too (certainly in its current state).--Smerus (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: The article contains translations of the four texts into English by Christina Egan. These translations are not sourced. If they cannot be shown to be free of copyright, they should be deleted. Furthermore Herman Hesse died 1962, and the German of his poems is therefore also copyright. Can someone comment on whether use of his words is permissible here? I think not, according to text section of WP:NFCCEG. Unless someone can demonstrate otherwise, therefore, only the German of the Eichendorff poem is eligible in this article.--Smerus (talk) 08:57, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  wrote those second-column Hesse translations herself. There was never an attribution for the Eichendorf translation, but it has been tweaked from its first incarnation (3 April 2007) by various editors over the past nine years and at this point is a joint wiki effort. Unless there's proof it is a copyright violation, I don't see any reason to delete the translation, and I see every reason to retain an English translation if we are going to have the German lyrics on En-Wiki. Softlavender (talk) 09:52, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If thast is the case, then I will makle a couple of corrections for accuracy and fluency.--Smerus (talk) 11:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright