Talk:MapleStory/Archive 8

message: Anyone editing the main article should read the WikiProject Computer and Video Games page so that the article remains conformed to the project's guidelines.
Anyone who wants to work on character or game guides should go to the Wikibooks section on MapleStory which is located here.  The link can also be found at the bottom of the article in the external links section.
Only notable fansites and guides should be added to the external links section in the main article.  Small or new forums and guild websites do not belong there. Wikipedia is not a place to advertise, and adding too many links will clutter the article.
The game issues page located at MapleStory Game Issues should only include factual information about existing scams, without including how to avoid the scams.  Also, do not link to scam and/or hack websites.
Information on pricing items does not belong here as it is too volatile and is not encyclopedic.  If you want to price items, refer instead to Sleepywood, Hidden-Street and BasilMarket.
The game is called MapleStory, with no space (not Maple Story) so please keep everything under that name.
-- Prod-Me 03:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  General guidelines 

message: Is it 50 million players, or 50 million accounts? People create multiple accounts, and some others create one to try the game, and then never play again.
Saying "50 millions players" sounds like blatant, untrue advertisement to me, which is a no-no in Wikipedia. Nikos 15:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  50 million players 

message: Hi,
I am the owner of this israely community of maple story wich is the greatest in israel:
www.maplestory.co.il
forum.maplestory.co.il
Please add link in the other language fan sites.
Thank you.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.250.33.78 (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone add this site?

message: It has come to my attention that the fan sites with the most amount of information, features, and etc are being left behind. Sleepywood.net, is a message board, it doesn't contain much information material. Whereas Mapletip has its very own Maplewiki, etc. Sauna and hidden street are also good sources, but not as well as mapletip is.
edit: MapleTip is not even NEAR as good as you claim it to be. It takes ages to load, has very superficial information which is sometimes even false and does not provide proper guides. Try looking at the guides section for, for instance, hidden-street.net. A lot more guides with a lot more information.
Furthermore, hidden-street is more interactive and user-friendly.
Evenfurthermore, hidden-street is a proper database.
Know your information, PLEASE
So the question is order by usefulness or abc, or popularity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.214.221.232 (talk • contribs) 
Here are the distinctions of each site as I see it (comments are welcome):
* hidden-street.net - most extensive library of game information
* maple-radio.com - the largest radio station dedicated to GlobalMS 
* sauna.gibbed.us - extensive information extracted from the data files of the game
* sleepywood.net - biggest forums, trading market and largest community
* mapletip.com - has a wiki-like project
* happymapling.net - should be deleted, all game information is already in the other site and there forum require registration just to read them plus is not as large as sleepywood's forums
--TheYmode 06:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of fan sites 

message: I'm failing this for criteria 2. this article is in Articles with unsourced statements. TO add to that there's one sentence paragraphs, external links in the text, white space between section.
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thread_title: GA Fail

message: I see other Wikipedia sites in different languages have a MapleStory article. Since the Chinese and Japanese one doesn't fit here, why not transfer those links (Such as the Chinese to Chinese Wikipedia) to their native Wikipedia's MapleStory article? Then we can clear up the links. --AOL Alex 03:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link transfer 

message: Should the town name Xi Men Ding be changed to West Gate Town? Because English version of Maplestory will likely to name it West Gate Town rather than Xi Men Ding. - wkkim9292 02:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, but noting the translation is ok.  --Notmyhandle 03:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 西門町 indeed translates to West Gate Town using google translator, but nobody is 100% sure that's the  name they will choose. It's probably best to just leave it the way it is for now. . The data.wz shows that it will most likely be Leafre in the english versions, but we can't say for sure, since Korean Folk Town would have been called Down Town had we just made a guess using the music track name in the data.wz before the map names were implimented into the data. In JapanMS, 西門町 is named 台湾西門町, which is arguably Taiwan West Gate Town. The music track implies it could be called Taipei too, so who knows, best to just wait. Chances are MapleSEA will be getting it within the next few months anyway. What does 서문정 translate to in english wkkim9292? -- Takiten 05:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  서문정 translate to West Gate Town and it is pronounced Seo Mun Jeong. - wkkim9292 07:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xi Men Ding or West Gate Town? 

message: How does an article about MapleStory *not* return any results when "hack" is typed into the Ctrl+F function? This game has one of the most notorious hacking rates, with little done by the creators to prevent it from getting out of hand, and estimates of players who use hack tools as high as 60% of the entire MapleGlobal community. 69.123.204.52 20:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most mmo's have fairly high rates of hack usage.  If you can find websites which give some hard facts about it, we will put it in. -- Prod-You 21:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hacking 

message: In some versions of ms like korea ms.. they choose to call it riprey but if u were to have a extractor sofware the names of some versions of ms choose to call it riprey
:The towns are called by whatever they are called in the English versions of MS. (MapleSEA and GlobalMS) If no such data exists, I believe the Wiki goes by what it's most commonly called.☒ TinDragon (User Page • Talk Page • Contribs) 17:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: English name is as of now Leafre. So that's what it will be. IsaacGS 19:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should go for Riprey over Leafre because it's official in KMS where as Leafre is simply a translation made by a player, not the company that creates it. OhanaUnited 17:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Nexon and Asiasoft did translate it into Leafre in the MapleSEA and GlobalMS's data. You can look on Rick's website sauna for the data. The map name and road name for that town clearly says Leafre in the data. So this is the official english name. -- Takiten 18:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  I have to admit i liked Riprey a lot better than Leafre, but it appears that Leafre will be the english name so we don't have a choice. Same goes for Jipang and Zipangu. IsaacGS 23:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even in JapanMS, ジパング is Zipangu and Jipangu in romaji. And I believe the Japanese pronounced it with a "zi" sound and not a "ji". It was never Jipang to begin with. It *can* be translated to Jipang in English, but Nexon/Asiasoft/ect decided to go with Zipangu instead, which is the proper romaji for it. Both KoreaMS and JapanMS call Korean Folk Town "Down Town" instead. It was never "Fairy Tale Land" in any version of maple. TaiwanMS calls Zipangu "Edo Village" instead. KoreaMS calls Zipangu "Japan" instead. So I kind of wonder which name GlobalMS will use when they get Zipangu. It could go either way, "Zipangu" or "Japan". -- Takiten 00:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: That's true, the comparison i was making is that Riprey and Jipang were user translations, while it seems Zipangu and Leafre will be the official ones. There are differences in Zipangu's content amongst the different versions. In KMS, it only consists of Mushroom Shrine, no Showa town. In TaiwanMS, they have showa Town, but they lack access to a number of the boss areas. At this point i believe only JMS and MSEA have the whole area, and they're both referring to it as Zipangu. I liked Jipang because the J reminded me of Japan. Though, now i'm pulling for Edo village. XD IsaacGS 17:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ThailandMS got whole Zipangu in their patch 0.29, because the Changoo Boss Area(Pine Forest) has been released to ThailandMS in that patch. - Wkkim9292 01:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  riprey or leafre? 

message: actually we should add the contect table for all versions as we would be able to know what contents those ms game cilent has so that we can refer to it
:It's not necessary here, and has been moved to strategywiki.  Also, please remember to sign your posts. -- Prod-You 20:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the content table need to be added, because it shows what kind of things are available in each versions of MapleStory. - Wkkim9292 01:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  content table or not

message: Everytime i try to play japanese maple story,a gameguard error come up.What's wrong?
You must have your computer set to Japanese mode. And this isn't really the place to ask that...IsaacGS 17:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameguard 

message: I'm now overhauling the following sections as discussed previously to be shortened, condensed, or redirect to strategywiki. Please do not treat this as vandalism.
*Gameplay
*Character classes
*Cashshop (to represent all versions' perspective, not just globalMS)
*Free market
*Switching 2 Curse Eyes picture to something more comicial and colourful (Someone should do this for me as I am photoshop-challenged.)
OhanaUnited 02:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I explained already. Try find something more comicial and colourful, something that catches attention (e.g. Lorang, Star Pixie)
OhanaUnited 04:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Plenty of pictures on strategywiki for you to choose from. If you want an ingame screenshot, pick out a monster and I'll go find it. Shouldn't be much of a problem, but there's a few monsters on there that aren't actually released yet. IsaacGS 19:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major overhaul under progress 

message: The informational fansites section is not encyclopedic and needs to be removed. -- Charleca 13:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily, look at Runescape for example. OhanaUnited 15:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Informational Fansites

message: it says globalms, but it should be maplesea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shagged (talk • contribs) 21:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it doesn't. It says "The Fishing System is available in every versions EXCEPT KoreaMS, GlobalMS, and EuropeMS." -- Takiten 22:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  there is a mistakin in fishing system 

message: Under a "Jump Quest" heading the last sentance says "However if skills such as haste are used before starting the jump quest they are retained and will remain until the skill time runs out." This is an old glitch and was patched a long time ago. (MapleStory has server checks and patches where they fix minor bugs like that)
:Thanks, fixed. -- Prod-You 01:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake on Jump quest