Talk:Pudendal nerve entrapment

message: * Aforementioned ligaments? No ligaments were mentioned. This should be cleared up.  *Fixed*
* Reference needed at the point where is stated that "Acupuncture has helped decrease painlevels for some people".
* I have corrected the acupuncture statement - I have never heard of anyone getting relief with this. PI Admin.
* The information provided in this page is misleading and inaccurate.  As a professional in the health care field and individual suffering with PNE I recommend that the editor amend or correct the information provided in this page.
* I also feel that this page is misleading, I am suffering from PNE for over three years, but the Doctor I fianlly found in the USA has done over 100 decompresion surgeries in 3 years. Hoever is quoting zero is not talking to the 2-3 Doctors in the US that perform decompression surgeries. Also, PNE can occur simply from sitting motionless for extended periods of time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.62.36 (talk) 21:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: comment

message: I would like to request two changes to this page.  They are as follows.  
First, in the causes section, here is an excerpt of the current language.
PNE can be caused by pregnancy, scarring due to surgery, accidents and surgical mishaps.  Anatomic abnormalities can result in PNE due to the pudendal nerve being fused to different parts of the anatomy, or trapped between the sacrotuberous and sacrospinalis ligaments.  Heavy and prolonged bicycling, especially if an inappropriately shaped or incorrectly  positioned bicycle seat is used, may eventually thicken the sacrotuberous and/or sacrospinous ligaments and trap the nerve between them, resulting in PNE.
I request that you add the following as a new last sentence to the foregoing paragraph.
Repeated mechanical irritation to the pudendal nerve caused by prolonged cycling can result in the accumulation of scar tissue and thereby trap the nerve along its perineal branch and, in men, along the dorsal nerve to the penis.
Second, in the surgery section, there is a paragraph that reads as follows:
Three types of surgery have been done to decompress the pudendal nerve: transperineal, transgluteal, and transichiorectal. A follow-up of patients of this surgery after 4 years found that 50% felt their pain had improved to various extents, although control patients were not followed up for comparison.
I request that you add the following sentence immediately after the preceding paragraph:
However, the studies and surgical methods cited above generally focused on the Alcock’s canal and the area between the sacrotuberous and sacrospinous ligaments as likely sites for entrapment.  More recent studies have identified possible entrapment sites anterior to Alcock’s canal.  
After this sentence, please add a reference to the following study:
Hruby, S.; Ebmer, J.; Dellon, A.; Aszmann, O. (2005).  “Anatomy of Pudendal Nerve at Urogenital Diaphragm—New Critical Site for Nerve Entrapment.”  Urology 66 (5): 949-952.  doi:10.1016/j.urology.2005.05.032.
Jctkelly (talk) 05:17, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: first part -- not done due to lack of source. Second part -- done. Pol430 talk to me 22:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 6 April 2012 

message: The paragraph The main symptom is neuropathic pain .... either the right or left side. is cited to , but this information is not in the abstract. If the sentences are not cited, it's original research and must be taken out. MLPainless (talk) 01:34, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we should AFG that the sourced material is in the rest of the article even if it is not in the abstract. Lesion (talk) 22:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edits 

message: This article seems a bit poorly focused, and seems to discuss any pathology of the pudendal nerve. I therefore propose that the article be renamed pudendal neuropathy and redrafted as appropriate, where each cause (e.g. entrapment) is given its own section. Thoughts? Lesion (talk) 22:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope of this article?

message: Apparently, "One more possibly helpful stretch for bicyclists include sitting in the lotus position and moving your head to the ground supporting yourself with your hands and keeping your buttocks up." Really?. I think this should be removed, per WP:ADVICE. 86.134.200.29 (talk) 08:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the sentence, as well as a few of the others around it—Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, and the information was uncited as well. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 15:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Physical therapy section - edit request 

message: Citation needed regarding chiropractic manipulations being an effective treatment. Jedwardsdpt (talk) 20:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed – Thjarkur (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2020 

message: Our goals for this article include:
* Add an anatomy section
* Cite sources for sections missing references(Physical therapy and ergonomics)
* Update citations with newer publications
* Expand on majority of sections
Future editors may improve this article as more sources become available.
Rfortney (talk) 21:56, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations 2, 2021 Group 25 Goals 

message: Mandatory Questions: 
1. Do the group's edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review "Guiding framework"?
* The group's edits do improve the article as they have expanded on the main topics of discussion: signs and symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, etc. I feel that each section was described in a way that allows readers to understand what PNE is, even though it is not super well understood at a baseline. C.Hancock, Future UCSF PharmD (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review from Group 7 

message: I have noticed a tag team of editors, or is it one editor with multiple accounts? (this is not allowed BTW), suddenly working intensely on this article. I have stopped the use of a case history as source for a lot of edits. Please carefully read WP:MEDRS and note that review studies are the preferred source for medical articles.
Another issue is the use of the phrase " is used by many physicians" in relation the so-called 'Nantes criteria'. That phrase is not in the source, and is therefore WP:OR. The actual phrase is "this criterion has validation by many European physicians", which is quite different.
And since some sources (especially Antolak) completely refute the Nantes Criteria, they should be referred to in the article more briefly, not listed in such detail. Ratel 🌼 (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your review of the page and recent edits. We are a group of students that are assigned to this article as a school assignment. We are aware of the studies preferred by wikipedia and have only recently added secondary references such as systematic reviews. The phrase was also fixed a bit after it was published. RLUUCSF (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: 1. 'Perineal branch' is now linked to 'Perineal branches of posterior femoral cutaneous nerve', but it's wrong link. How can pudendal nerve branches off 'perineal branches of posterior femoral cutaneous nerve? As pudendal nerve branches off perineal nerve, 'perineal branch' should be linked to 'perineal nerve'. (Pudendal nerve entrapment#Anatomy)
2. What is 'digital palpitation'? I think it should be 'digital palpation', since the Tinel sign is also performed by percussion. (Pudendal nerve entrapment#Diagnosis)
If I am wrong, please refuse these requests. Thank you. --LR0725 (talk) 14:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw red alert message, so I thought I cannot edit myself. Thank you. --LR0725 (talk) 15:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 edit requests