Talk:Road Warrior Hawk

message: Did Hawk really use the Gorilla Press Slam (enough for it to be listed here)?  I thought that was Animal's move.--Shockeroo 13:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

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===Road Warriors===
Animal is listed as Joseph Laurinaitis, Hawk is listed as Road Warrior Hawk. I believe Animal should be moved to Road Warrior Animal. --Endless Dan 12:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And again, his most notable name is Road Warrior Animal, which he has been known as for 20 years which caused him to become a recognizable figure in professional wrestling. How is being a dad compare to the notablity of that? Naming conventions wants the most commonly used name, and I don't believe him being a father garnered him the same amount of attention. — Κaiba 23:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change rationale

message: Animal is listed as Joseph Laurinaitis, Hawk is listed as Road Warrior Hawk. I believe Animal should be moved to Road Warrior Animal. --Endless Dan 12:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And again, his most notable name is Road Warrior Animal, which he has been known as for 20 years which caused him to become a recognizable figure in professional wrestling. How is being a dad compare to the notablity of that? Naming conventions wants the most commonly used name, and I don't believe him being a father garnered him the same amount of attention. — Κaiba 23:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Road Warriors]]

message: Could some one please put some pictures of him? Hes a legend in the tag team division and wrestled for a long time so there should be alot of photos.--Justakija (talk) 12:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Could some one

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message: Should the subject's cause of death be included in the infobox? 00:58, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *First of all, WarMachineWildThing, please review WP:CANVASS; your notification of this RfC was incredibly non-neutral and inappropriate.  Second, do any of you have any evidence that my statement is false? A search for insource:"infobox professional wrestler" -insource:"living people" returns 719 results; insource:"infobox professional wrestler" -insource:"living people" insource:"death cause" returns 240 results, and that would include any cases where the parameter was present but left blank. I would appreciate if all of you withdrew your baseless accusations and limit your arguments to fact- and policy/guideline-based points. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:38, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *Nikkimaria Your RFC for this was one sided, you did not link the Wrestling project you only linked Biographies. So Call it canvass all you like, you have changed your reasons to have the death section removed from the infobox for this 1 article several times. First it was policy and not notable, then it wasn't sourced, then it was sourced but not correctly, Nothing I said wasn't fact as its right on your Talk page. Every wrestler death is notable, It could have been drugs, it could have been in the ring, it could have been an accident, Hawks is notable because it was a Heart Attack and not a drug overdose. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 19:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *(a) The RfC question as posed above is neutral, and even if it were not, canvassing would not be the appropriate response. Your approach here risks invalidating the RfC. (b) He's not notable for dying of a heart attack, he's notable for what he did while living. Many of the allegations you've made, such as "Every wrestler that has died their article has the cause of death" or "Every wrestler death is notable", do not have a basis in fact or in policy. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:24, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *I feel the RFC was started as one sided and clearly so did another user. Again you have singled out 1 article because YOU don't think it is notable. Nothing I said wasn't fact as its right on your Talk page per our last discussion about this. So I dont feel like I did any WP:CANVASS of the Project like you said as the post was based on facts, the Wrestling Project was informed of what exactly was going on, Which you DID NOT do and should have done. I did NOT tell anyone to comment yes or no, I did NOT tell anyone to take a side, I Informed them and I stated the facts of this whole thing, Fact you singled out 1 page, Fact you removed the cause of Death without a good reason, so nothing in that post to the project wasn't true. Hawks death is notable because It could have been drugs, it could have been in the ring, it could have been an accident, Hawks is notable because it was a Heart Attack in his sleep and not a drug overdose. If he was born in 1902 then it would be clear what his cause was and you might have a valid argument, but based on your statements that a middle aged man having a Heart Attack who was in pretty damn good shape physically in his sleep isn't notable is non sense, By your reasoning any middle aged man that just up and dies in his sleep isn't notable. I have also removed anything that was aggressive or crass from the post in the Project as well and it still only states facts. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 19:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *Your post very clearly took a side on the matter, and also made an allegation about lying which you have yet to substantiate; if you don't understand why your post was canvassing then I can only suggest you read the explanation at WP:CANVASS. It appears you also need to read WP:N, as notability has a particular meaning on Wikipedia that does not align with the way you are using the term. The death of "any middle aged man that just up and dies in his sleep" will almost always not be notable, because middle aged men die of heart attacks routinely regardless of their apparent health; the notability of the "middle aged man" himself will depend on who he was and what he accomplished in his lifetime. So too here: we don't know who Hawk is because he died of a heart attack, because that detail is actually not what is significant about him as a person. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *You stated Most articles using infobox professional wrestler do not appear to use this parameter, That is not true. Only ones who are still alive or died of old age do not use it. So by your wording it isnt true. I can link SEVERAL wrestling articles that are of middle aged men who had heart attacks and they all have it in their info box. One of them was only in his 30's. Your RFC was one sided from the beginning because YOU did not link the Wrestling Project, that was on you to do. I DID NOT tell anyone how comment. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 20:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *I showed above how I arrived at my conclusion regarding use of the parameter; do you have any evidence for yours other than anecdote? "Other stuff exists" is not a particularly strong argument. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: * An Anecdote? You showed your conclusion DID NOT include the facts some died of old age which then the cause isn't used. Your basis on this FROM the beginning was his age, its right on your talk page and here, you continue to say the same thing over and over, "A middle aged man having a heart attack isn't notable" It isn't about his age, its the fact he was in good shape, had drug issues in the past and had a heart attack in his sleep after he went to take a nap per the sources. He didn't die from an overdose or suicide which is what happens to alot of them. He died from a heart attack in his sleep. You act like all middle aged men having a heart attack is normal, it isn't normal. You started an RFC without notifying the project, which is one sided. It's now up to others to comment on how we go from here. You say I'm wrong and I say your wrong. Its not up to you how we proceed and Its not up to me how we proceed. I told you when you brought up RFC on your talk page to do it then and you waited almost 2 days to do it then started an RFC without notifying the project, that is one sided. The fact that it is only used in certain wrestling infoboxes is irrelevant as these should be addressed on a case-by-case basis. I stated facts based on your comments, period. I will not sit here and continue to take over this conversation with you with the same arguments over and over. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 20:33, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

text: *It "isn't really notable enough for an infobox" in this case - heart disease is literally the most common cause of death for men of his age. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

text: *It is used in other biographies when significant but not when routine, per the documentation of . Nikkimaria (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Cause of death

message: I would like to know the name of hawks parents it's not listed anywhere I cant find any info 66.191.254.90 (talk) 07:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is road warrior hawk's parents names