Talk:Chrysanthemum Throne

message: This article had exactly one sentence about the stated topic, the rest being about the monarchy that sits on the throne, not the throne itself. I have removed the off-topic material. If anyone has any information about the actual throne, please add it. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're wrong about that. It's not about a physical chair, it's about the position. (atleast in English, it's about the position. Like the "Throne of England" is not a chair, it's the position of Monarch of England.) 70.51.8.75 (talk) 09:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

text: *If that is the case, and this article is not to be about the actual object itself, then it should be redirected to the article we already have on the subject: Emperor of Japan. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Done Beeblebrox (talk) 19:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off topic 

message: This article should be covering the Imperial Court of Japan... 70.51.8.75 (talk) 09:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: more?

message: An Italian artist's impression of the Japanese throne was published in 1823.  As far as I know, the image is inaccurate in several crucial details; but it does evidence an interest in the throne which stretches back to a period before photographic records could be made. 
* NYPL Digital Galery:  Trono del imperator del Giapone. by  Andrea Bernieri (artist). Source: Ferrario, Giulio (1823). Il costume antico e moderno, o, storia del governo, della milizia, della religione, delle arti, scienze ed usanze di tutti i popoli antichi e moderni. Firenze : Batelli.
I don't know how to parse the implied questions about whether or not this illustration is an enhancement or not? --Tenmei (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 1823 image of Japanese throne

message: The definition states that the term is used to identify "the throne of the Emperor of Japan", or a specific throne. This is not correct.  The normal usage of the term is to refer to the Japanese monarchy, not a mere seat!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.41.226 (talk) 06:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition 

message: This article related very little useful information to me. I wanted to know why it's called the Chrysanthemum Throne. I can only assume it has something to do with the Chrysanthemum being part of the Japanese royal family's iconography, including the []. However, neither that article nor this one mention when the Chrysanthemum became the icon of the royal family, or why. 87.114.31.58 (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not really known how or exactly when did the Chrysanthemum even became the symbol for the imperial family. However, there are some sources that explained how the Chrysanthemum became the symbol for the family, though the validity is not known. Generally, it is said that the Chrysanthemum was valued and cherished for its "longevity" after it was imported from China in the Heian Period, and the imperial family came to love the flower and decided to adopt it as their symbol. 115.66.169.98 (talk) 14:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, the fact that the chrysanthemum is a symbol of Japanese royalty is not even mentioned in the article's lead. Furthermore, there is no mention of how or why this particular term was coined. Was it a reference to the presence of the chrysanthemum seal on thrones (as is mentioned in the "Other Thrones of the Emperor" section), or is it more of a figurative connection? Secondus2 (talk) 14:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uninformative in the Extreme 

message: ::This is an answer to the discussion above but I added the headline in order for it to be visible in the index.
::Surely, the Japanese name kōi, which is translated here as "imperial seat", is too short to have anything to do with the flower chrysanthemum. I wonder if the throne is also occasionally referred to as the "Chrysanthemum Throne" in Japanese or if this is an innovation in Western languages? It would be great if Japanese users could add information about this. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of Chrysanthemum Throne