Talk:Anatomical pathology

message: Here in the U.S., we tend to say "Anatomic". I'm not sure "anatomical" is the preferred usage anywhere. If there are no objections, I will move this page to Anatomic pathology in a week or so, and turn Anatomical pathology into a redirect. -Rustavo 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: UK usage is "anatomical". The page should probably stay here as per WP:NC. JFW | T@lk 23:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it is customary to seek consensus before moving a page when there has been a dispute. I am trying to go about this in a systematic way as part of WikiProject Pathology, and by the criteria we are using, anatomic pathology appeared to be the best title for the page. I understand that since the US is a more populous country, hit counts on PubMed and Google may be biased toward the U.S. spelling, but I think we should be using a more unbiased criterion than "whoever gets there first." What is the official licensing body in the U.K. so I can add that to the criteria? -Rustavo 00:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anatomical is in wide use and I think the manual of style (WP:MOS) should not be disregarded. Also, it appears that in Canada, Australia, and the UK they officially use anatomical pathology.  I think the article should be left at anatomical.  Nephron  T|C 23:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I agree you make a strong case that this actually is a "U.S. vs. Commonwealth" terminology issue, and I agree that in that case we should leave it as is. I'm not sure that is the case for the other three terminology disputes on the WikiProject Pathology talk page - I happen to know that all six of those terms are in use in slightly different contexts in the U.S., so I do think the google/pubmed counts are a good way to settle those disputes where possible. I will update the "preferred terminology" section on the project page to reflect that "Anatomical pathology" is preferred. -Rustavo 23:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anatomic" or "Anatomical" 

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Currently, surgical pathology is a redirect to anatomical pathology. I think it might be helpful to make these two separate pages, with anatomical pathology containing summaries and links to the various subdisciplines of anatomical pathology (e.g. Surgical pathology, cytopathology, autopsy, molecular pathology etc), as well as general info about the training, certification, and practice models of anatomical pathologists. I think we could write a really solid page on Surg Path alone, which would focus more on the actual role of surg path in the diagnosis and treatment planning of major disorders broken down by anatomical region, as well as an explanation of surg path workflow & techniques. Eventually, we could have the goal of making Pathology, Anatomical pathology and Surgical pathology very distinct pages in terms of subject matter, and each at good or featured article quality. This would be a pretty big change so, I wanted to put it up for comments. -RustavoTalk/Contribs 17:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead and split it out. Nephron  T|C 21:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Do we need a separate page for [[Surgical pathology]]?

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I just conducted large revisions to two pages (Pathology and Anatomical pathology) and created a third (Surgical pathology) to better coordinate and define the content on these three closely related topics. As a result of the revision, material that focuses on the overall skills, certification, and practice of anatomic pathologists was concentrated in the page Anatomical pathology, while some of this content was trimmed from Pathology, which has a much broader scope. Content specifically related to the skills, workflow, and subspecializations of surgical pathology were moved to the new page surgical pathology. I think this change is a significant improvement, but I welcome any feedback and additional editorial revisions. -RustavoTalk/Contribs 20:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Multi-page revision

message: I know that first picture is important for the article, and I'm against censorship... But it was a shock to see it, and I'm not gonna be able to eat in a week. Couldn't you use another picture and take the current one in a smaller resolution and put it down on the side? 83.108.225.137 (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The photos enhance the subject by their diverse contents (photomicrograph, surgical specimen, autopsy photo)--thus illustrating the diversity of anatomic pathology and thereby contributing substantively to the article itself.  I vote that the images remain unchanged.  Thanks.  MorbidAnatomy (talk) 00:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, the picture is highly relevant and should be kept; even if it certainly also is disgusting . Power.corrupts (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I totally agree : this article is about pathology, and these pictures illustrate pathology well. Hey, anonymous, don't apply to Med school, Okay? Emmanuelm (talk) 00:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm with the first anonymous poster.  How about not removing it, but moving it further down the page, so it isn't THE FIRST THING that smacks you in the face.  Really.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.91.13.89 (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The trouble is that pathology is appropriately named "gross" in many cases. Because pathology is a vital field of medicine, this should be included as part of Wikipedia without a doubt. Obviously, those who have not seen, for example, a blackened gangrenous leg are going to be very upset to see an amputation, for example.  Perhaps we could provision some sort of barrier, such as a thumbnail that must be clicked before the image can be seen, with a label such as "Warning. This photograph might be very disturbing to view for those who are not medical professionals. Readers who are not medical professionals should exhibit caution before viewing this photograph."TexasPathologist1 (talk) 00:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: The previous discussion seemed to be directed toward "US vs Commonwealth" terminology but the issue runs deeper than that.  It should be pointed out that "-ic" and "-al" are each an adjective suffix used for the identical purpose of rendering a noun or subject into an adjective.  Almost anytime you see "-ical" it is actually incorrect (grammatically, at least).  Biological, anatomical, physiological, pathological, are all grammatically incorrect (I feel bad for the American Association of Anatomists and their journal "The Anatomical Record"--but you'll also notice that this is an American publication using the incorrect "-ical" suffix--so the issue is not merely "US vs Commonwealth).  I realize that "-ical" has fallen into common usage for centuries but it is still wrong (!) and perhaps this article title should be amended to reflect that fact.  The only time "-ical" is correct is when "ic" are the final two letters of the word root (as in, physical or chemical, whose roots are "physic" and "chemic" and the combining forms are "physico-" and "chemico-" and thus require "-al" to render them adjectives).  All that being said, "anatomic" is the correct form and the article should be titled correctly regardless of the most widely used form.
WP policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)) states:
"Use the most commonly used English version of the name of the subject as the title of the article, as you would find it in verifiable reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works)."
I find that Ackerman's Surgical Pathology uses the form "anatomic" and it seems to me that this source is as "verifiable" and "reliable" as you can get since this text is basically the bible for a practicing pathologist.
Also, Stedman's Medical Dictionary uses the form "anatomic" but does not include an entry for "anatomical."  This is also a verifiable and reliable source.
The title of this article really should be changed to "Anatomic Pathology."  76.20.178.54 (talk) 15:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree : in Google, "anatomic pathology" returns more than twice as many pages as "anatomical pathology". I vote for the name change. Emmanuelm (talk) 00:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Review of Anatomic vs. Anatomical

message: Would anyone here be interested in looking at rocker bottom shoe with a view to making it more encyclopaedic. The marketing perspective of this topic wants to dominate the article instead of the podiatry perspective which is the only one relevant to Wikipedia unless the marketing/branding itself was independently notable. Donama (talk) 03:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Podiatry perspective of [[rocker bottom shoe]] 

message: I think it would be very beneficial to the article to go into detail about different procedures of anatomic pathology. It is briefly covered but after doing some more research, I found a specific website that was very informative. In searching for more details I came across a website discussing research done through UCLA laboratory and pathology. It was informative in that it went into detail about why these different procedures done, specifically targeting the medical benefits. It would be beneficial to further discuss autopsy being the procedure done to discover one's cause of death. There is then cytopatholgy, which is a fine needle aspiration procedure. Followed by surgical pathology which is one of the more prominent procedures involving surgical removal of tissue or major organ systems in order to undergo a biopsy diagnosing a level of cancer. There is then neuropathology which goes into detail discussing multiple procedures done in order to diagnose neuropathic disorders. Lastly, it discusses ophthalmic pathology diagnosing cytology and tissue specimens from the eye. 
Said, J. (n.d.). UCLA Pathology & Laboratory Medicine. Retrieved February 01, 2016, from http://pathology.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=506
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