Talk:Nicklas Nygren

message: I suggest that this page be renamed "Nicklas Nygren" with the term "Nifflas" redirecting here.  Thibbs 19:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. JIP | Talk 12:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it the norm to use the name by which the person is known instead of his real name? E.g. Tiger Woods or Prince (musician). Nifflas gives 10 times the amount of hits in Google as "Nicklas Nygren" and his main site doesn't seem to even mention his real name anywhere. I would suggest changing the article name back to Nifflas. --Matonen (talk) 16:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that's necessary. "Nifflas" redirects here so it's unlikely to create any confusion for readers. Although Nifflas is a more popular reference, most reliable third-party references actually discuss him as Mr. Nygren. -Thibbs (talk) 16:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested Renaming

message: The guidelines seem to require "significant coverage" in "reliable sources" that are "independent of the subject".
Reliable sources:
There are published interviews (they are published to the same extent that a "widely recognized internet FAQ document" as described in the notability essay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Uncle_G/On_notability) in several websites including www.joystiq.com, www.ctgmusic.com, and www.planetfreeplay.com.  There are also developer bios and extensive articles on Nygren or his games on such websites as www.gamespot.com and www.rfgeneration.com.  Further coverage on Nifflas can be found at www.tigsource.com, www.acid-play.com, jayisgames.com, and indygamer.wordpress.com.  These are merely a sample of the better known "websites of note".
Significant coverage:
Although the google test is not really a valid meter for notability, I think it provides a certain degree of collateral evidence.  As of Sep. 2007, a search for "nifflas" yields 140,000 hits and a search for knytt yields 556,000...
Independence from subject:
None of the "big name" websites have any dependent connection to Nicklas Nygren in any way.  Nygren distributes his games freely online so there can be no financial connections to undermine independent coverage, interviewers have all sought *him* out rather than he publicizing himself, and in general the plethora of sites devoted to him are created by fans who have learned of his work through sources of internet media which have recognized this emergent independent developer in their publications.
I vote to remove the non-notability tag.
Thibbs 19:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Note on Notability

message: I've condensed all of Nifflas's games created prior to Within a Deep Forest into a single paragraph at the bottom of the Games section. None of these games has had any sort of significant coverage, and none return more than 600 Google results (whereas Within a Deep Forest returns about 14,000 results, and Knytt Stories returns about 28,000). As it was, they were taking up quite a bit of space, and appeared to be much more important than they are. Googoogjoob (talk) 05:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For chronology reasons, what would you think about the idea of moving the new "other games" subsection to just above "Within a Deep Forest"? -Thibbs (talk) 05:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it'd look weird to have the "other" games listed before the "main" games, but if that part were re-done to not use another word in place of "other", it'd work fine. Googoogjoob (talk) 19:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK I'll change it to "Early games" and shift it. -Thibbs (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

text:  Done. I also re-added the names of a few games that had been deleted yesterday. I think the existence of the games is lent notability by the notability of the designer, but I agree the games probably do not need full descriptions so I have not replaced those. I also added some refs for the games. I did the same thing for the non-soundtrack albums: I re-inserted their names simply. I don't think that clutters the article up too much. -Thibbs (talk) 20:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just re-added an image to demonstrate the "Early games" section. There was plenty of space for it (the total length was not increased at all) and it seemed a pity to waste the upload. I'll try to hold off on re-adding anything more. I'm not a huge fan of deletionism in general, but the axing of some of the material probably tightens the article up some. -Thibbs (talk) 21:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent. As it had been before yesterday, it felt terribly bloated- like an annotated list of the files on the UnOfficial Nifflas Game Page. Googoogjoob (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Less-notable games

message: a timeline for these releases would be pretty useful.
(i am not going to username/date this comment please ignore the irony)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.239.148 (talk) 13:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: dates

message: Anything wrong with adding an external link to the wikia dedicated to this developer's games? Keeps getting reverted..  KnyttKnight (talk) 05:46, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The link runs afoul of WP:ELNO #12: "Open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." —C.Fred (talk) 05:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to Wikia 

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message: :Nicklas Nygren →  – Widely known handle in reliable sources, and he still publishes games under that handle rather than his real name. Falls under WP:PSEUDONYM policy.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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