Talk:MC (disambiguation)

message: This disambiguation page has been criticized in this Slashdot comment for being cluttered, and disambiguation clutter is said to have a negative effect on the perceived overall quality of Wikipedia. My suggestion for fighting disambiguation clutter is to put the more common meanings of the abbreviation first, resulting in a variation on the inverted pyramid. The manual of style seems to agree. --Damian Yerrick 04:47, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Is MC even a widely used acronym for "Mariah Carey"? I could see it being used in fan mailing lists and newsgroup, but that's like Star Wars fans using SW, GL, ROTJ, etc. and Dream Theater fans using DT, SFAM, etc. I think these are too specific and not representative usages of an acronym (after all, you don't see a SFAM entry on Wikipedia explaining that this is how DT fans call the album "Scenes From a Memory" on lists/forums/newsgroups). MC as "Molten Core" falls under the same category, IMO, and probably others from the list. I'd like to see them go -- or else one could just add any two-word concept that starts with the letters M and C, since some specific group might use it in acronym form. --200.165.233.224 13:10, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Dab pages are to help people that type "mc" in the search box get where they were trying to go. I doubt a person looking for "machine" are going to search for "mc". Dab pages are not dictionary pages, so, I agree that many of these should be removed. - grubber 03:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree absolutely. Pet hate, people adding obscure meanings because *they* happen to use that abbrev; but those using the abbrev likely know what it means, and as such, it's only likely to be come across in context. Don't get me started on the idiots who'll add stuff like 'Bushbury Hyundai' (a non-notable car dealership in England) to BH. Fourohfour 11:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reminder: Put common meanings first 

message: This isn't hard and fast (I'm sure it would come back to bite me if it said it was). However, if the article doesn't include the purported abbreviation, then it's almost certainly not common enough to be included here, unless the contributor can give further justification. If its non-inclusion in the article is because it's a stub, then perhaps this says something about the (un-)importance of the subject.
As I said, more common sense than rigid rule. Also, you can bet that if Google doesn't come across a decent number of (non-fan-centric) sites that include both abbrev and full version, then its inclusion may be questionable.
Fourohfour 12:07, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rule of thumb for inclusion?

message: Expensive amplifiers of the 70s and 80s have seperate inputs for MM PHONO and MC PHONO, these are respectively moving magnet and moving coil systems. I am very surprised not to find them explained here. I was trying to look up the different implications of pre-amplifying the two phono cartridge types. The german wikipedia has articles on this, but not elaborate enough:
* http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Coil
* http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Magnet
Since the labels on those buttons actually include the short form MC I guess the article should mention that, but it's not nice not having any explanation for it in the wiki yet.
SymlynX 10:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Coil as yet not defined! 

message: Hey, i was thinking, isnt Mariah Carey Often (commonly in her songs) referred to as "M.C" and also in person? shouldn't that be up there?
thanks! (MY 1st CONTRIBUTION!! YAY!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gulfrazthehunk (talk • contribs) .
:Aren't there several million other people called M.C. ? --SymlynX
: Disambiguation pages aren't complete lists; they're aids to navigation.
: If someone types in MC (maybe not knowing what it means, or expecting a particular article), then the page should include all reasonable uses that someone could expect to find when searching for "MC".
:Why doesn't Mariah Carey belong here? Because she isn't normally referred to as "MC" by the public (except where the meaning is already clear). Celeb mags wouldn't say "MC's new boyfriend shocker!", but they might shorten it to "Mariah". So she belongs in Mariah, but not in MC (disambiguation). Fourohfour 11:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mariah Carey 

message: Hi, I've come across the use in the older physics literature of Mc as "megacounts", e.g., in Quantum Mechanics of One- and Two-Electron Atoms, by Bethe and Salpeter (but also in spectroscopy articles fro the 50s, 60s. Would that be reason enough to add a line to the disambiguation? --Qcomp (talk) 14:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  add Mc = Megacounts? 

message: Minecraft and Main Character were both recently removed from this list, because neither article mentions the acronym (WP:DABABBREV). I think both should still be included despite that (WP:IAR).
MC is not an official abbreviation for Minecraft, but it is used very commonly, for example in the name of the tool MCEdit. Since "MC" is not an official title of the game, and "Minecraft" is not that long to write, I don't think there's any reason the abbreviation should be in the target article (Minecraft). However, I still think it should be included in on this page given how common the usage is.
Main Character is a redirect to Protagonist, so again, there's no reason for "MC" to be mentioned in the target article even if it is a commonly used acronym, because the target article isn't even on "Main Character" it's on "Protagonist". Given that the target article is a redirect page and there's no opportunity to include the abbreviation on a redirect page, I think WP:DABABBREV can be ignored here, and if the acronym is deemed to be used commonly enough, it should be added back.
Nog642 (talk) 17:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No, disambiguation pages are not acronym dictionaries or guides to slang usage. WP:DABMENTION is the relevant guideline. If the usage is notable, then mention it in the relevant article with reference as needed. Otherwise there is nothing to disambiguate within Wikipedia. older ≠ wiser 19:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Like I said, Main Character is just a redirect to Protagonist. It wouldn't make any sense to add the acronym "MC" for main character in the Protagonist page, so I don't think WP:DABMENTION applies. Even if the acronym were notable enough (which I think it is), there's nowhere to add it but here. Nog642 (talk) 03:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commonly used abbreviations not mentioned in target page (Minecraft & Main Character)