Talk:Virginia/Archive 1

message: Under "economy" on the page it stated:
Today, it is still significantly wealthier than the rest of the South, although much of that is from the northern influence around Washington D.C.
I understand that the Washington DC part could factually be true, but the "significantly whealthier part" truly is not. I took some time and I found out that North Carolina grosses more money anually than Virginia...(if you do not believe me search: North Carolina). Apparently, North Carolina's grossed 9.5 billion more than Virginia in the 2004 census estimate. Someone please change this misleading fact.
:: North Carolina is a bigger state; at least it has a larger population.  So just because it grosses more does not make it wealthier than Virginia.  Per capita wealth in Virginia appears to be higher. Thesmothete 15:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wealthier than the rest of South????

message: I take exception to the statement:
:Unlike any other state of the Union, under the laws in effect in Virginia, all municipalities incorporated as cities are independent of any county.
I grew up in Ohio in the '70s. Unless something has changed since my Ohio History class in 1978, Ohio's incorporated cities are also independent legal entities and are not considered a part of the county that contains them. Common talk may suggest that Youngstown, say, is "in" Mahoning County, OH, but such is also said of Fairfax (city) being "in" Fairfax County, VA. -- Jeff Q 07:05, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A few days ago, I removed the "unlike any other state" claim completely, in lieu of any accurate data on how common or uncommon such laws were in the US. -- Jeff Q 05:50, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent cities only in VA? 

message: I edited a recent change to the intro sentence that implied the term "commonwealth" is simply a name.  Indeed, in one sense that is true, as Virginia is of course a state of the United States just like the others; however, there is a historical provenance to the fact Virginia, Maine, Kentucky and... dangit, I forgot the other one, anyway, there is at least a theoretical or academic difference between a "commonwealth" and other forms of state governments.  For this reason I modified the intro sentence to reflect this a bit more. --Ryanaxp 19:13, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
According to the link to commonwealth this page, "The U.S. states of Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Virginia call themselves commonwealths. In these cases, this is merely a name and has no legal impact." So I'm changing it back--Fantrl 14:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term "commonwealth" 

message: Does anyone know to whom we may attribute these somewhat famous lines "To be a Virginian, either by Birth, Marriage, Adoption, or even on one's Mother's side is an Introduction to any State in the Union, a Passport to any Foreign Country, and a Benediction from Above"
(William Faulkner?)
:::Mark in Historic Triangle Vaoverland 08:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have heard this quote with "Southerner" replacing "Virginian".  It sounds like Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) to me.  - Stillnotelf 04:21, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

text: I asked the reference desk and special collections people at Swem Library at the College of William and Mary -- they're pretty good with random Virginia factoids - they say that they've always seen it attributed "anonymous" and that they've looked for a source before to no avail. - Stillnotelf 19:00, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I still haven't found an attribution, either. Oh well, what me worry? (Alfred E. Neuman). Vaoverland 22:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: To be a Virginian

message: update:trying to get to Virgina state web sites to find out how to vote in up coming major election (state and country).....
http://www.sbe.state.va.us/VotRegServ/reg2vote.htm
they are down  during the night hours...no explanation
david kelly
::David, the web page you mention is non-existent.  That's why you get the "404" error.  Here is the page you should use to register to vote in Virginia:
::http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Voter_Information/Registering_to_Vote/Index.html —GraemeMcRaetalk 07:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virgina governor race 

message: *See Tennessee article for issues. --Bookofsecrets 15:07, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: *Wow!  Those are a lot of changes.  Question:  I see that you have dropped the postal and AP abbreviations.  Was this intentional?  Umm, the changes were so massive it's difficult to ascertain if other info was also lost.  I almost reverted the entire series of changes, simply based on the magnititude, hoping to review in detail.  Can anyone else chime in? Mmoyer 20:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revamping by Civil Engineer III 

message: I can see no pressing reason to cut down the opening paragraph without discussing it first, so I reverted it.  I invite you to discuss your ideas for changing the opening paragraphs here, JW1805.  Hope to hear from you.  Mmoyer 03:25, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The more I read and re-read the opening paragraph, I believe I agree with JW1805.  At the very worse, the section that was edited out and which spurred this conversation should be reduced and re-written, rather than exist as a virtual copy of information further down below. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 15:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimmed opening paragraph by [[User:JW1805|JW1805]] 

message: Is there a way that we can block vandals from editing stupid crap on this site, like the George Washington site.  Seeing people putting stupid stuff on this site everyday gets old.
Thanks,
Rutke421 02:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandals

message: MY Opinion:
    I clearly belive that Maryland/Virginia are southern states!
Many People object to the idea of Virginia and Maryland being southern. Im from Maryland so I know. I hate it when people that don't know me come in my face with all that "yankee" crap...i aint no yankee...im myself! And I absolutly HATE when people say that VA an MD are rude, inconciterate, uneducated, boring, bad drivers. Im fun, nice, and filled with GREAT hospitality.
Next Subject: Civil war/M&D line.
    If everyone knows that MD and VA are BELOW the Mason Dixon Line... why do some people feel the need to say that MD and VA are Northern????
It's quite -how can i say- IDIOTIC! Yes, folks, I know that the MDL was not made to divide the north and the south, but It's pretty usefull to divide the two. Doncha think???...About the civil war...VA was apart of the confeds...i can't lie, BUT MD was FORSED to become apart of the union and most of the people wanted to be with the feds.(yuddah im sayin)...So anyways, like i was sayin, VA & MD are natrually South.
Subject 3: MD.
    Everyone knows that MD is not like the rest of the southern states-no accent(mostly), not many confed. flags, has northern-like cities, bad traffic etc.- but it is still SOUTHERN.
I mean dang, like many other southern states, we take pride in are lil southerness, we sometimes act a lil country, and we still TALK diffrent from the north...esspecially Dc/B-more area. CUT US SOME SLACK!
Final Subject: Overall.
    Over all, Maryland and Virginia are southern!
They have many southern charms too. Infact, we have great hospitaliy too! Don't worry, be happy. Even if your mad, you HAVE TO admit that maryland and virginia are atleast a TAD BIT southern. YEs, YEs, YEs, we do have many qualities like the north(aka bad traffic...lol), But you must admit(if youve been too maryland and virginia...NOT B-MORE or DC)that it is southern in some areas!
ps. dont post nasty negitive comments about Virginia or Maryland..okedoke allipokey...lolz
ps no 2. IF you ask a man at a gas station in Southern, MD.... you'll know that chu in the south. - Footballchik
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maryland"
It is mainly because of the Civil War.  Maryland was part of the Union cause, even though there were plenty of supporters for the South.  Plus the location of the Northern capital plays a role in this argument.
Rutke421 16:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  VA/MD 

message: The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing).  Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Virginia.  Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 16:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ''Sports'' section added to updated [[Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states]] format   

message: It looks like someone has written an article called Rest of Virginia.  Would it be a good idea to merge it into this article?  It seems like a neologism that might be better mentioned here rather than in its own article. --Takeel 00:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, after looking over it, I would feel that any inclusion into the Virginia article should be in the area of one or two lines of text, tops.  That, or simply link to it from the geography section.  As is, while the differences between NoVA and the rest of Virginia are well known and debated, this was the first time I've ever seen RoVA identified as something individual.  Rather, its like some one created an article called "Rest of New York" and referred to how the rest of New York State differed from the New York City metropolitan area.  Ergo, I'm not sure if the article needs to exist.  ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 13:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's at Upstate New York. --Kineticman 12:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I sure picked a bad example.  Regardless, I still oppose a merge, but the option I suggested above.  As for the original RoVA article, it could use some citations due to its claim that was used in many media sources.~ (The Rebel At) ~ 13:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I personally think that the "article" could be shortened to two sentences explaining the whole thing.  I honestly don't think it's relevant enough to have an entire article on.--Jude 06:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rest of Virginia]] merge in proposed 

message: Under the Trivia heading it says that Virginia and New Jersey hold gubernatorial elections in the year after the presidential elections.  This is not true for VA at least.  Our governors are elected for a 6 year term.  One election the president and the governor's are elected together, + 4 years = presidential election, + 2 years = gubernatorial election, + 2 years = presidential, + 4 years = both. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.53.194.141 (talk) 02:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virginia's governor elections 

message: Website: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/raleigh.htm
Reasoning:  This website is about Sir Walter Raleigh.  This link should go on a page about Sir Walter Raleigh NOT Virginia.  
Website: http://www.outinvirginia.org/
Reasoning: This page is someone's personal blog.  Personal blogs should not be linked to in Wikipedia.  A majority of this site does not even deal with anything in Virginia. 
Website: http://www.vabook.org/
Reasoning: This website is an advertisment for an event that will be happening in Virginia.  Wikipedia is not a place for advertising. Eric 22:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasoning for Deleting Certain External Links 

message: I'm new to this, and I noticed a "Hallo Olli" in the geography section of VA. I'm not good enough to even find the entry that creates that, so I ask that someone who knows what he's doing fixes that article.
Thanks
70.108.13.185 15:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: checked, and another user has already fixed it. Thanks, Sebastian. P.S. Why not register as a user and continue helping us in whatever way(s) you can? Vaoverland 17:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sebastian, a second thanks for thinking of posting.  I fixed this issue yesterday, as well another "hi" sort of messaging.  Its amazing, but the hi messaging that preceded the "Hallo Ollie" got through the radar of editors for a number of days.  So anytime anyone points something out, always helps. :)   ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 18:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism