Talk:Duyfken

message: Image request for the replica in Perth.--Commander Keane 11:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Nachoman-au 06:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comments

message: I have removed the below sentence from the article, which states that this is the same ship Schouten used to round Cape Horn:
*On its first voyage in 1601 to the Spice Islands under the command of Willem Schouten it discovered and named Cape Horn after the city of Hoorn.
Other references on Schouten give the Eendracht as the name of his ship in this enterprise. Authorative reference should be sought to ascertain which is so, and the passage can be restored if it so turns out. --cjllw | TALK 07:37, 2005 July 12 (UTC)
As a postscript, it seems that the [Duyfken replica site has now modified its timeline of the original ship, and removed the erroneous reference to Willem Schouten.--cjllw | TALK 23:45, 2005 July 26 (UTC)
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There were 2 ships confused on this page. These details are from the book Sent forth a dove (1999)  (hardcover) or 25 5 (paperback):
Duyfken (1) - Yacht. 3 masts. 50-60 tons. Laid down May 1594, launched and fitted out c. end Feb 1595 at Uylenburg, Netherlands. Was on voyage in 1595 (?) with 3 other ships (Hollandia, Mauritius, Amsterdam), returned to Netherlands. Renamed Overijssel c. 1598.
Duyfken (2) - Yacht. 60 tons, 30 lasten (cargo space). Built around 1599-1600. Captain Willem Jansz (not sure when exactly). Was on voyage in 1601 with 4 other ships (Gelderland, Zeelandia, Utrecht, Wachter), and was in battle with them against Portuguese at Bantam Bay 27 Dec 1601. Was in another fleet in 1606 and sailed across to Australia that year. Damaged by undersea volcanic eruption 1 July 1608 and taken to Ternate, Indonesia for repairs but broken up there because of damage in around July 1608.
SpookyMulder 10:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Willem Schouten 

message: I removed these comments to this page as some of it it appeared on the main page... I have 'x' out the email address.
:Ship replica (including a list of ship replicas)
:1.Please consider the following: the "national group" mentioned in this section, that is organising the Duyfken replica commemorative voyage, ( due to arrive in Sydney on 11 December) is Australia on the Map 1606-2006
:Its website could be referred to under that notion of national group: 
:you will find it perticularly informative and worthwhile linking to.  any questions xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com,au
:2. VOC translated as Dutch East India Company may be quite common, but also quite wrong. East India Company suggests in English something focussing on the east of India. VOC stands for Vereenigde Oost-indische Compagnie.
:This means litterally United East-indies Company or United East-indian Company ( because indische is an adjective) the company focussed on the East-indies, some 17th century notion of the wide area now known as Asia or the Far East. not just the east of India. So I suggest you use for VOC the (Netherlands based) United East-Indies Company. 'United' because about nine competing Dutch companies had merged into one in March 1602, to cut competition.  
::12:08, 6 December 2006 User:203.129.63.134
:Under "Duyfken Replica" It starts in the last para with : "In 2006..." This year is now over and the paragraph should be reviewed, updated. I suggest the following to replace it or information like it:
:During 2006 more than 150 public events took place over all Australian States and territories that commemorated the 400 year jubilee of the original arrival of Duyfken and other vessels that followed her. It included a commemorative voyage along the Australian coast calling at 23 ports, lectures, conferences, exhibitions, official presentations, launches and unveilings of plaques and munuments and a blaze of publicity for these hithertoo obscure maritime historical events. Initiated by a community based organisation set up for the purpose (Australia on the Map 1606-2006, a nation-wide network) it inspired the abovementioned events, new specialist websites, a review of educational curriculi on the subject, publication of a long list of books and historical articles, a Royal visit by the Dutch Crown Prince and Princess  and an official visit by the Dutch Premier to Australia and also a program of events in the Netherlands.
:More information can be found on the last mentioned website below, which will be reviewed by July 2007 and the then still relevant information placed under another URL. 
::01:51, 31 December 2006 User:203.129.49.138
SauliH 04:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editors comments under ''See Also'' section 

message: The image <StateLibQld_1_117460_Duyfhen_(ship).jpg> (in Gulf of Carpenteria) shows an unusually broad stern. The other images show an unusually narrow stern. Sorry folks! Can't possibly be the same boat. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 02:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That picture is an 1886 artist's impression, no scientific reconstruction. And the present replica is built on much guesswork too, I bet (although a number of details, like the high narrow stern, are known to be typical of the time). Drawings or the like are usually not preserved from that period. 151.177.57.31 (talk) 01:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  More than guesswork; see here. Betterkeks (talk) 01:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's what I meant. A number of general or generic details can be supposed and tried out, but some things you have to guess at, not the least of which is how closely your replica matches the original in every detail. 151.177.57.31 (talk) 02:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stern—narrow or broad?