Talk:Arsenal F.C./Archive 4

message: There's a note saying that Reyes and Van Persie shouldn't be added to this list because they are too recent. Given that this note was written last season, I feel that these players should be added now in line with the appropriate timeframe. Change made, although further comments welcome. Cyril Washbrook 06:28, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Players 

message: 24.141.180.28 (talk • contribs) has been converting lists of famous players to be grouped by nationality rather than by when they played for the club. I think it should be left as it is - ordering by time is consistent with the List of Arsenal F.C. players article (which this section summarises) and it's a much more logical way of organising players - there is very little that, say, Cliff Bastin and Ashley Cole have in common apart from being English; it's much more informative to group them with their contemporaries. Qwghlm 09:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can also look up a player's nationality by looking at the article about them, so why does it have to be shown here? And the only reason why all the G-14 clubs' pages look that way is because you have been single-handedly making them look that way. You still haven't given any reason why grouping players by nationality is as informative as, or more informative than, classifying by the era they played in. Qwghlm 20:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By way of example, it seems strange to me that you think it is more suitable having Cliff Bastin and Alex James, who together formed the attacking partnership that won so many trophies in the 1930s, totally apart in separate columns, just because one happened to be an Englishman and the other a Scot. Qwghlm 21:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fully agree with Qwghlm. It seems rather silly this way. Additionally, since the header text is "Famous former players," any reason why players still on the squad are listed? howcheng  {chat} 23:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If we restore it to date, then we can slot in their nationality next to the players' names anyway - I would definitely advocate it being changed back. Cyril Washbrook 08:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous players (2)

message: Exactly who is this "Miguel Sallinger"? Rdd446 keeps editing him in!--ARSNL 00:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks a complete hoax to me. Thanks for being so alert in reverting it. Qwghlm 07:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is this person? 

message: Can we not just change it to Famous FORMER players? I think this could solve the problem of current favourites being added.   Slumgum T. C.   21:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are plenty of current players (most notably Henry) who are as good as past greats, and I'm sure others would agree. Over at Talk:Liverpool F.C. they had so many problems with the list, that they decided to get rid of the list in its entirety and just supply a link to List of Liverpool F.C. players. The more I think about it the more it makes sense - List of Arsenal F.C. players has distinct objective criteria for inclusion of players, whether past or present, and is thus much less subject to POV. So I now reckon we should just delete the abbreviated list and supply a link to the main list. What do others reckon? Qwghlm 14:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fair enough. Doesn't have to be comprehensive, and particular favourites are therefore likely to be included more than Giles Grimandi and Pascal Cygan making it a nice halfway house. --BadWolf42 12:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Players (3)

message: There was no confirmation that the deal had gone through by the end of deadline day, so I've reverted the edit adding Gallas and removing Cole him from the squad.  If anyone can provide a reference for the Cole/Gallas deal being done, I'll happily revert. Tpth 00:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so there seems to be some confirmation at  Tpth 00:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Any ideia why they gave him the number 10 shirt, instead of number 3? WinstonRothchild 20:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to ask the same thing, but shouldn't it be a big decision who gets no 10 as it was last worn by the legend, Dennis Bergkamp? They shouldn't just give the no 10 away anyway and a defender of all positions. arsenalwwerulz 12:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gallas

message: What about Denilson? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.20.68.36 (talk • contribs) 08:24, September 1, 2006.
:There are reports floating round this morning about Denílson Pereira Neves  but nothing confirmed by an official source. Qwghlm 08:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The official squad page has been updated with Gallas and Baptista, but not Denilson, so he probably has not joined Arsenal. Qwghlm 14:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...I stand corrected, the Premier League website says  the deal has gone through pending international clearance. Once that is sorted he can be added to the squad. Qwghlm 16:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Denilson

message: Arsenal offical website first team squad numbers
Just wanted to repost the fact that Gallas has been given the number 10 shirt as there have been a lot of people editing the page to award him number 3. Xobxela 08:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallas is officially number 10 in the Squad 

message: I wasn't sure where to put this but this seemed like the most appropriate place. Would http://www.thegoonerforum.moonfruit.com be considered a linkspam? If so what would we need to do to make sure it wouldn't be considered link spam. Cheers —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.229.242.88 (talk • contribs) 15:11, October 10, 2006 (UTC).
:Your site is little more than a forum, with squad photos taken from the official site, so it does not pass the requirements under WP:EL. The sites that are included are there because they provide history, statistics or useful background information to the club. Indeed, some of them are actually used as references in Arsenal-related articles. If your site contained material like that it would be a more useful resource for readers of this article. Qwghlm 19:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the history you have added (via the "Club" link on your page) is basically a copy & paste of the "History" section of this very article, so it is not providing readers with any extra information that they couldn't find here. Also, as it is not GFDL-licenced, it is also a breach of Wikipedia's mirroring and copyright policy. As it stands it doesn't make your site any more linkworthy. Qwghlm 16:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: The introduction includes the text "the most blatantly sh@! team in the world" which doesn't appear in edit mode. Have never attempted to edit a page before but seems odd that that this text, which is clearly an undesirable defacing of the article, cannot be edited out. Anyone out there have the means to do this, Dougal.
:That's because it had been fixed by the time you tried to fix it :) Normally it would have shown up as you might expect, cheers for trying though. Try refreshing your browser and/or cleaning your cache. aLii 10:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the templates rather than this article itself, by the looks of things, and it looks like it has already been fixed. Qwghlm 16:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graffiti 

message: A proposal to split History of Arsenal F.C. into two articles has been made, contributions to the discussion at Talk:History of Arsenal F.C.#Split are welcome. Qwghlm 18:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting of history article