Talk:Code Geass/Archive 1

message: I'd like to go through the history and put this information back somewhere; soliciting suggestions as to where to put it. (under a "Staff" section?)
I have a particular vested interest in ensuring that Eiji Nakada's name is tied to the project in the article, as I find mechanical designers are regrettably overlooked by US anime enthusiasts. (Then again, this is coming from the guy who's been singlehandedly overhauling Kunio Okawara's article; guess I'm a little bit biased). --E. Megas 21:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of staff listing in the summary... 

message: What academic calender does the school follow? The traditional British system or the Japanese system? -Atashi 23:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ashford Academy 

message: I propose there should be a section about the Pizza Hut sightings, or at least a mention of it, in Code Geass, because the product placement of Pizza Hut in the anime seems to have taken a role as an in-fandom meme. It's made it's mark in the Geass fandom ranging from the fansubbers webpage including a sightings list, to the main Pizza Hut article even mentioning Code Geass, to the seemingly widespread inside one-liner, "PIZZA HUT SUPPORTS THE REBELLION". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fall Showers (talk • contribs) 03:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree! I was going to add to C-2's character information that her favourite food is pizza hut.
But if we are going to add a new section, might be best to add it there.
I mean what other anime series feature a current product placement? 
I bet the animators are getting free pizza for a year or something :p
While Pizza Hut isn't central to the story, it is feature almost regularly thoughout the episodes so far seen.
- Onizuka-gto 15:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While this might be rather hilarious, it is however not notable or significant enough to have it included within the article, I'm afraid. Actually, there are several notable anime series to have incorporated product placement, for example - adidas directly sponsored the 2001 series Captain Tsubasa Road to 2002 (with adidas' logo appearing on the stadium boards, even on one of the main characters, Genzo's cap, which he always wears, by the way). See adidas's official website about Captain Tsubasa. PUMA also directly sponsored Hungry Heart: Wild Striker. Ganryuu  (talk) 17:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section Proposal 

message: Please don't change the names unless you're sure you're right. The current names (as many as I could find) are from an article in animage; scans here and here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.132.52.223 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Simple magazine articles are not official confirmation of any kind and such scans anyway are not notable enough for inclusion into a correctly referenced article. Ganryuu  (talk) 14:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Offical Names 

message: I think we should use Guren Mark 2 instead of Crismon Lotus, one of the reasons is just as GG Fansub sad“HEY, no one translated Akatsuki in Gundam SEED Destiny”. Also it is more logical to use Guren instead of Crismon because wikipedia is a encyclopedia. If GG-fansub doesn't translate it to Crismon then that piece of article wouldn't make much sense. So that's why I suggest that until other fansub groups decide what to use,whe should at least use Guren.  Atilim,20 december 2006,7.45 Dutch time—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.147.106.216 (talk • contribs).
I'd not rely on anything from fansubs, especially when only one English group is subbing Geass. If gg fansubs had another translator who preferred 'Crimson Lotus', then that would've been their release. Atashi 09:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guren vs Crismon 

message: Should a reference to the Geas from Celtic mythology? Yes, Original Research and all that, but I find it's more than a coincidence. I've been thinking of writing a sentence about it, but can't think where. Also, I think there should be explanations as to where the names of the mech names come from (The city of Gloucester in England, Sutherland in Scotland, etc.) Bnynms 17:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire series has refernces to the UK like the chess, the Brtiannian naming, Lancelot. I think it has it's own part of the article, so yeah, feel free to add it. Kurigiri 18:02, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally support adding the geas/geass reference but according to a small minority of dedicated wiki'ers, large amounts of smoke billowing out of the woods does not constitute a forest fire. :p Maloncanth 04:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worth adding? 

message: As I am sure some of you are aware, the Holy Britannia Empire is pretty much anything but its namesake (as the name itself is obviously derived from Germany's Holy Roman Empire). While it may have a 'British' facade, it definitely has a German heart. Historically, the British Empire was a naval power, rather than a land-based one. That honor, of course, belonged to the Germans. 
It is also quite interesting how the producers decided to coin this show's signature mechas as the Royal Panzer Infantry, as I'd imagine the word Panzer would have been an affront to British sensitivities. Perhaps it would be better to call them ReichsPanzerInfanterie. Not to mention the ideas of competition and eugenics were both very central to National Socialist ideology.
I suppose the producers did not wish to create an authoritarian regime with a German foundation, since it may be slightly offensive, not to mention they would have had excessive difficulties with German vocabulary. 
Regardless, I believe an article regarding the connections of the Holy Britannia Empire to its historical counterpart, the Holy Roman Empire, may be appropriate. - Tak—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.156.42.49  (talk • contribs).
:Completly, but I mean COMPLETLY Original Research. Kurigiri 20:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allusion to the Holy Roman Empire? 

message: If I'm not mistaken, there are at least two screenshots: here, here, and the cropped version of the last that show/imply that Lancelot doesn't have two, but four slash-harkens instead, two more located on its hips.
Should I edit? Dr. Rondart 13:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lancelot's Slash Harken 

message: Seeing Pizza Hut is thrown everywhere, why no mention of Pizza Hut's support of the rebellion?--293.xx.xxx.xx 05:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can there really be any question that this is sponsorship? Relatively tastefully done, and not too intrusive, I might add. --Darkbane 05:14, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheres Pizza Hut?? 

message: Apparently some fans have found it to be really "Indecipherable". That is to say, not even native speakers of Japanese can make out what the song is singing about, not without a lyric sheet or sth. Some people have made videos with "alternative" and rather funny lyrics. Maybe that's good for starting a trivia section?
There used to be several related videos on Youtube, but they have been removed "due to use violation". The only one I can find now is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ndeQMVgJM
Would anybody search for alternative sites plz... try keywords like 解読不能　空耳字幕, etc. Nautilusfossil 17:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The talk page, as detailed in the talk header, is to be used for discussing improvements to the Code Geass article, and not for general discussion regarding the article's topic. Please also see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, where it is clearly detailed: Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, Wikipedia is not a soapbox and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. ···巌流? · Talk to Ganryuu 17:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I was suggesting "improving" the article by adding this (possibly interesting) piece of information regarding OP2. Those comments on the lyric are not my original thought. It will not promote anything (as in soapbox), nor will it be about FAQs, travel guides, memorials, manuals, internet guides, textbooks, plot summary or the actual lyric (as in indiscriminate collection of information). However, this piece of information may be lacking in term of the "notability" criteria, having only been circulated as music videos and on various anime-related blogs. I wouldn't put it in right now. Maybe after some published work (magazine article, etc) mentions the song, it would be worth mentioning here. -Nautilusfossil 18:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OP2 "Indecipherable" 

message: A person bearing a great resemblance to the Emperor of Britannia appears in the first episode, during the "Contract" scene, the 18th episode(saying something of a 'mental elevator') and in episode 22, laughing and saying that the/an idiot did 'it'. We should mention the possibility of this man being the Emperor (how many have their hair like THAT?) and of his apparent knowledge about the Geass. It might have something to do with the other name of the Geass, "the power of the king". I haven't seen all of the episodes, so if someone knows something that I don't about this issue, please contact me.- Preda 20:36 27 of March 2007
:Completely off-the-wall explanations aside, he's the Emperor of Britannia for sure - the appearance is identical and there has been no reason presented to believe that it is a completely different character who is merely identical in appearance. Imban 19:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 22: What does the Emperor have to do with the Geass 

message: Erm, a question. There's a new section stating that Code Geass video games are coming to the DS and Wii. Is there a source for this? This is almost an "oh boy oh boy" thing for me than anything else, but without any cited sources I remain skeptical.76.106.44.17 07:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Code Geass will be adapted into a series of video games to be published on the Nintendo DS, PSP and Wii. This has been reported by several well-known Japanese news sources, such as Nintendo iNSIDE and numerous others, which have now been added to the article. This is also stated on the Japanese wiki article for Code Geass, from which this section was translated. It should also be noted that several popular anime series are often adapted into video games in Japan, especially Sunrise's series. ···巌流? · Talk to Ganryuu 11:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Games? 

message: I've created a List of Code Geass albums article, listing and detailing each of the albums released for Code Geass, including the original soundtracks and drama CDs. I'll try to expand upon the series and its related media, concepts and other material further as well. ···巌流? · Talk to Ganryuu 21:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New albums article 

message: It's been announced at the anime's main page the airing times of the 24th and 25th episodes. However, I can't read Japanese well enough to understand more than the gist of what the page is saying. The part keeping me from adding the times to the page is the fact that three dates and times are listed. Could someone verify which should be listed on the article and make the appropriate change? ~~ Ryalla 08:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, besides saying it will air in summer of this year, it does not mention the exact dates. I think those dates you see are the section about BIGLOBE accepting applications for something. DarkAngel007 22:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the dates for the special screenings they're doing.  Invite-only. Moogy (talk) 03:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 24 & 25's Airing Times 

message: The new Geass theme song for episodes 24+25 was announced in its official site: OP ED section. So, if someone wants to add that somewhere on the article.... It's called "Hitomi no Tsubasa", by access. DarkAngel007 22:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  24+25 Theme song 

message: The article completely lacks any organization at all, the list of staff takes up half the page, and there's tons of 1-sentence subsections. Please rewrite the article so it reads like a sane human being wrote it.--Frenchman113  on wheels! 03:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WTF, it still reads like a list and it still looks like crap 

message: Many times there has been some addings to the first infobox on the Code Geass page where someone usually adds a genre or a demographic. Should there be anymore genres added as it seems there is more genres than just Fantasy, Mecha, and Science Fiction and some websites listing Code Geass information show the demographic listed as Shonen or Seinen. Should there be a demographic and more genres added to the infobox?
24.82.132.101 00:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A demographic, yes. I'm thinking Seinen since it's a pretty gruesome show, noting the first use of Lelouch's Geass and such. That and the DVD extras. As for more genres, I think that's enough. There's not enough romance to stick that genre in... TinFoil 16:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Blood is still shounen. The mere appearance of blood doesn't make something instantly 'gore' in Japan. --AnY FOUR! (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Although I agree, this series is not for the light of heart, there is some problems with serialization that ma throw it off balance, since the manga was serialized by Asuka, which is a shoujo magazine. However, Asuka also serialized Cowboy Bebop, which is obviously Seinen aswell, but because of this odd serialization, will it really work to add the Seinen demographic here, instead of just leaving it blank? Just my thoughts. TofuMaster00 4:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The series is an original anime series, so it cannot be classified per a common demographic based on the serialization of its manga adaptation, therefore it has to be kept blank. Simply judging its demographic via its content would be original research; the only viable method for a show is classifying it by the magazine in which it was serialized. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  08:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographic and Genres 

message: I've just performed a major overhaul and expansion of the article, adding production, development and release sections detailing the development, planning, broadcast and release of Code Geass, and also cleaned up and completely re-wrote several other parts of the article. The article, in my opinion, looks far better now, encyclopedic and up to an excellent standard. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  16:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Way to go, Ganryuu! I see you've adopted my staff table from Madlax article... ^^; Anyway, I think, subsections "Knightmare Frames", "Geass", "World", and "Terminology" should be moved to a separate article (Fictional setting of Code Geass, perhaps?): they are lists right now, plus they are describing what's IN the series, rather than the series itself. As long as the new article keeps well out-of-universe and referenced, it should be no problem. Also, IMO the whole "Distribution" section deserves an article of its own (List of Code Geass media). It's possible to merge it with the episode list and the "Other media" section, too. Of course, these are just my personal recommendations. ^^ Other than that, the article is fantastic, especially the "Production" section. --Koveras ☭ 15:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I had noticed your staff table in Madlax and thought it was excellent, but had to wait for a suitably-expanded and referenced production section to add it to the article (^_^). I completely agree that the in-universe material would need a lot of cleanup and should be moved to a new article; "Settings and themes of Code Geass" sounds like a nice title, I think, and so I've just started the article accordingly. The merge of the episodes, other media and distribution sections into a media section also seems like a pretty good idea. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  02:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I think so, too... Since we already have an article that deals exclusively with Knightmares, it's OK to just add a brief description of them to the plot introduction. And I'd add a sentence there about what "Geass" actually is. I also think that the plot summary should be expanded into a real summary (albeit as short as possible), rather than just introduction but since the story is not over yet, it can wait. The main concern within the in-universe part right now should be the characters section: except the link to the list, it should probably contain a paragraph for each of the major groups in the series (Black Knights, Britannia, Ashford Academy) and mention smaller ones (Kyoto, JLF). --Koveras ☭ 13:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major expansion and cleanup 

message: Ok I've been working in my sandbox trying to create a more efficient setup for the article. And I'd love some feedback on it before I go and make any changes to the article itself. I would also love some help adding content to the Related works section in the infobox.--88wolfmaster 23:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: fixed, how is it now? Anything else? I based my design around reorganizing the sections (because some where not in the most relevant sections) so as to streamline the article.--88wolfmaster 19:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In reference to the previous production section, several good-class media-related and featured-class anime articles on the project, such as Madlax and Prison Break follow the exact same format; this is the reason why I chose it, as related sub-sections such as production, staff and broadcast must be included in the same section as they are certainly related and must be linked. I've therefore changed the non-universe sections back into their original sub-sections, per the featured format used in the featured-class article Madlax. Please see WP:FICTION for more information. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  06:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, reception, broadcast and media details must proceed the production and development sections, as the development of the series was the first non-universe portion of the series to be completed, whereas the other non-universe phases happened as a result of the development. I've therefore utilized the excellent featured format used in the featured-class article Madlax and per WP:FICTION. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  06:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design 

message: Hi all, I thought it might be fun to have a fan userbox template for Geass, too, so I went ahead an created one. Feel free to add  to your user and/or userbox pages. ^^ About the layout: I decided that plain black and white design would be the best to underline the diversity of the show and I'm also well aware of the strong association with Pizza Hut of the current catchphrase, but I think it sounds cool nonetheless. :P --Koveras ☭ 22:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Goodie, thanks!--Monstez 06:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan userbox 

message: In order to avoid clutter on the main page, I think instead of a specific "List of Code Geass albums" page, we should have a "List of Code Geass media" page. That DVD table is a huge eyesore in the article... >_>
As a side note, are TV broadcasting times in Japan really significant here? Just wondering what everyone thinks. Darkslime (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An overall media page could be a good idea, however the albums article can stay as well, a link from the media article should suffice. TV broadcast schedules and timings are indeed very relative and significant to the article since the subject is a Japanese television series and as such a record of its timeslots, as well as its upcoming timing changes in the second season, would be an interesting way to chart its development (see the Japanese wiki article for a similar list). The Japanese TV ratings and DVD sales would also be an excellent and notable addition to the article and I will be looking to add these in the future. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  00:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken about the broadcast schedules. In any case, the List of Code Geass media page has been created, and I moved all non-major media-related info there. If someone would mind taking it from here, this is a bit new to me. It was mainly just a c+p. >_> Darkslime (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albums page 

message: I've changed the the dates without time references as they're wrong no matter what system we're using.  The dates with times are technically correct in JST but shouldn't we list times/dates as they're standardly shown in English-speaking countries?Frozen North. (talk) 03:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately your date and time are wrong. You ended up moving the dates one day up. Japan is basically "ahead" of most countries in terms of time. [Example: USA (EST) - 10:49pm Jan 06 / JST - 12:49pm Jan 07] And in terms of dates, I assume we stick to when it aired in Japan, and not to when it aired in Japan relative to someone in the US. The premise for this is correct context because the information is to provide the reader with when the broadcast aired in Japan and not elsewhere.Fox816 (talk) 03:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I moved the dates without times up one because the episodes aired past 24:00 on date 'X' which means they technically aired in the early morning of date 'X+1'.  Truncating "25:25 October 5" to "October 5" is simply incorrect.  My concern is that while leaving the dates with times in 24:00+ is not necessarily wrong, it could be confusing since dates may appear to contradict each other.  Therefore, I was suggesting that the air times be changed to a 00:00-24:00 format (ex. 25:25 October 5 becomes 01:25 October 6, matching the correct original air date of October 6). Frozen North. (talk) 06:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Ahh, I see. That's peculiar but rather useful in a way. The 24:00+ format eliminates the mental uneasiness regarding late night/early morning times. There were some minor disagreements regarding anime time placement on Adult Swim where series were promoted as part of their Saturday block and considered just that, though technically the shows aired on a Sunday- rather the same basis for the stations using the 24:00+ format. Ramblings aside, I don't see much problem with using both dates. Where no time is specified then use the "correct" date. Then again it wouldn't be a problem to just switch all formats to the standard 24hr time and move the days up. However, the original 24:00+ format with date is more widely known and that the station promoted the series as part of their Thursday late night lineup. Though correct to say it aired on Friday it would certainly cause confusion with those familiar to the regular broadcast formatting. Quite a predicament. Fox816 (talk) 08:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not modify the article's current date format. This is the exact format used by official sources and notable publications including Anime News Network, Newtype and several others. In the future, please do not revert or make such wholesale changes without a prior discussion. Thank you. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu  01:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Another notable source, AniDB, has guidelines specifically addressing the 24+ hour time system and discusses how even official sites use the "wrong" date .  Internet sites aside, a show airing at 01:25 on the 6th, while having an air-time listing of 25:25 on the 5th so that viewers have an easier time figuring out when to tune in, technically aired on the 6th.  Unless the 24+ hour time is explicitly associated with the date, I'm all but certain it's incorrect no matter which time system we use. Frozen North. (talk) 02:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese time system 

message: code geass is ALSO a manga, so shouldnt u add how many volumes or chapters r in there? I would frankly like 2 know how many volumes there are, and i bet other people would, 2.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.132.12 (talk) 13:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  manga 

message: What's the etymology of "Geass"?  Might it be it the Irish gaes?  -- AvatarMN (talk) 14:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A large number of fans believe so but it has never been officially confirmed, ergo it's original research. %) --Koveras ☭ 09:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Geass" 

message: I have a couple of questions:
1) Concerning the imperial family, how should their "middle names" (is that the right term in this case? You know, the "vi"s and "el"s and whatnot) be capitalized? I recently moved "The Emperor of Britannia" to Charles di Britannia, but I then noticed that the rest of the characters have their middle names capitalized (e.g. Lelouch Vi Britannia). Yet the Japanese Wikipedia article doesn't have them capitalized. And hey, it's Leonardo da Vinci, not Leonardo Da Vinci.
2) Do we capitalize the word "geass" or not? Some articles have the word capitalized, some don't. Hell, some have it both ways!
Chibi Gohan (talk) 17:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Imperial family; Geass vs. geass 

message: I was trying to find the names of the two new songs, and I'll I've seen is that the new opening is done by Orange Range; I don't have the tools to write the title, nor the knowledge to decipher Japanese. Anyone who has the knowledge, I'd appreciate it if you could enlighten me and the music section of this article.Shint (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The new theme songs for the R2 series is in the Code Geass R2 article. They're "02" and "Shiawase Neiro". DarkAngel █▀▀007▄▄█ 02:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahh, my apologies. ThanksShint (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening / Ending for R:2 

message: The first episode of the English dub of Code Geass aired this morning (or night?) at 1:30 AM on Adult Swim. However there are no reliable sources that I can find that confirms this, and the official Adult Swim website seems to have not be updated to include the new show yet, except for a rotating banner ad stating "NEW ANIME SHOW. CODE GEASS. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT EITHER." - ThreeDee912 (talk) 13:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added some basic information about the airings in the United States into the Broadcast section. Feel free to revise/update it if it's not good enough. ThreeDee912 (talk) 13:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated info on United States airing 

message: I'm not sure why someone made a second page for the second season, but I've merged most of the content back into this article. -- Ned Scott 09:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2]] 

message: The heck with rules? The heck with in-comments? Is it chinese chess or something?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.114.227.79 (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And this is in reference to? — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 22:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chess 

message: I'm surpized nobody has said how this directly relates to the NWO.  Britannia (uhhh dead give away) the creation of a super power dictatorship between the USA, Great Britain, etc in the near future.  This show is based off of the largest conspiracy theory in the world.  I really think this should be noted in the main page.
Saferv (talk) 14:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you can present a reliable source for this claim, it's nothing but original research and thus has no place on Wikipedia. —Dinoguy1000 16:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Britannia is supposidly the name that the NWO is associated with in the past and present.  also the whole idea of the major "white" nations forming into a superpower dictatorship are related to the theory.  it's just like gundam seed destiny's logos organization.  there's a bunch of books that support it and sites that state it, i'm too lazy but it's really evident that the show uses some of those ideas as do other animes of the conspiracy theory.Saferv (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's immaterial that "there's a bunch of books that support it and sites that state it" if you're too lazy to provide proof of any of them. And no, telling us to "do a Google search" won't help your case. No one else here is going to go out of their way to establish a connection between Code Geass and any conspiracy theories, unless said connections end up in the news (which I seriously doubt will ever happen). Provide a few sources, and the information might be added. Otherwise, you may as well forget it. —Dinoguy1000 15:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the show is based on what would've happened if The British Royal Family had fled from Napoleon and settled in their North American colonies. The USA never actually existed. This is more of a tale of the Revolutionary War if anything...NinjaRooster (talk) 08:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an alternate history story telling where there was no Magna Carta, the American Revolution failed, Napoleon successfully conquered the British Isles, and the "Britanians" fully embraise the idea of Social Darwinism. --Farix (Talk) 13:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Hence, it's not a "New World Order conspiracy" type thing, since it alters history as far back as 1215. —Dinoguy1000 17:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that the alternate history goes further back, as far as the Roman invasion of the British Isles. --Farix (Talk) 04:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New World Order 

message: Should we add them as they're part of CG, though spin-offs in their own way? Ominae (talk) 14:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Might be cluttered. Use an other media box. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 22:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Beg your pardon, but what about another media box? 70.68.147.16 (talk) 23:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Like at the end of Naruto's infobox. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 00:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

text: He's talking about using this component of the infobox. —Dinoguy1000 17:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox for LOTR, SOTC and NON mangas 

message: While I don't think that Code Geass is a phychological thriller, I don't think it's entirely described with just "fantasy, mecha, science fiction."  Shows from those three genres are a dime a dozen and I don't think I've ever seen one that has... would you say, mind games?  To such an extent.  Many people say, "If you like Death Note and mecha, Code Geass is exactly what you're looking for."
What genres would better describe Code Geass, I wonder?  Mystery, maybe?  It's not a triller, but it's not just a plain old action show.  There's a lot of clever planning and strategy.  There's the mystery of C.C. and V.V. and the power of Geass.  There's mental showdowns with Mao.  There's the intrigue of Lelouch's past and his struggle to keep his real identities - both of them - secret.  Anyone have any ideas? 206.248.181.52 (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't agree with Mind Games, since those are pretty one-sided, but I think this anime should belong to the Drama genre. Although I am not familiar with the criterion of that genre, Code Geass is obviously quite dramatic. And hey, Gundam can do it! --85.250.130.23 (talk) 15:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: With your question about a separate article, there once was - I think there should be a separate article as well, since there is so much difference between the two, and not just in the story. However it was merged with this page (to my knowledge, there wasn't a consensus, but I may be wrong and a discussion might have taken place elsewhere) a while back, and has stayed like this ever since.  If you wanted examples of split articles for different seasons, Full Metal Panic!, Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu! and Full Metal Panic! TSR are prime examples of ones that REALLY don't need separate articles.  As for the episode list, a single list is suffice, since its simply a summary and is not a long list. --nyoro~! Highwind888 (talk) 03:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Regarding whether we should care about the right genre to put it in, YES WE DO, since this is wikipedia after all.  I agree with a debate, and well, that's what this discussion section is for.  Personally, I would agree with the general three mentioned by AKIRA70.  I don't believe "Mind Games" or "Psychological" really fits in, since it's not about two groups trying to outwit each other like in Death Note. --nyoro~! Highwind888 (talk) 03:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Obligatory discussion spinout. I'm neutral on this. Probably could be broken out into various pages. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It shouldn't be broken into one list, much less various pages. Everything in the media page belongs here, with clean up and much needed references, in that media section noted above. Nothing in that media page needs separate articles, its all relatively minor stuff that deserves mention, but not undue weight. Per the MoS and overwhelming project consensus, a split like this is not appropriate. We've been undoing them all over the place, including at Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, etc. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant by that was that the content could be moved into various pages where appropriate: DVD into episodes, etc. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: DVD stuff would go to episodes, but the rest would belong in the main. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Okay, I've done most of the merging. I've left the picture dramas because, it has absolutely no context at all and no sourcing, so not sure what to merge. The table, though, doesn't seem to be needed. I've also left the soundtracks/CDs until they can be redone in prose. A lot of what has been merged is totally lacking in sources, so I've added the refimprove tag to the article. The light novel info seems to be in need of verification as its saying the first volume was published the same month it started serialization. Also, an infobox for the novels is needed. Some of the prose needs clean up as well. I've done a first pass, but should be double checked. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I redid the songs in prose, but I'd ask you to take a look at that. I don't know the first thing about music. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. I did a little tweaking and have merged it in.  :) -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge the media page 

message: The island name is incorrect. It's "Horai Island". It even says "Horai Island" on-screen in roman letters and the characters pronounce it as "Horai", but I can't edit the article myself. "Penglai" is, I assume, the Chinese reading? However, whenever a Chinese reading has been used (IE: Tianzi, Li Xingke), there has been accompanying Katakana somewhere that gives the Chinese pronounciation. - Miasmacloud (talk) 23:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Penglai" Island 

message: Anyone ever seen a youtube video of a Visual Novel Code Geass??
It's a video demo of a VN Code Geass game, the video include the opening animation, It uses a song titled "Kiss my Lips" as the opening theme, the title screen / main menu of the game, and the gameplay as well, the girl for the gameplay example is Karen, using the kissing scene from the anime 1st season when Lelouch prevent Karen from seeing C.C.
The video demo was so real, including animated opening, game logo, loading screen, etc. And it convinced me for a while that it was a real thing... And i believed a lot of Code Geass fans out there trapped by the video too... And it was definitely popular among Code Geass's fans...
My question is, what is that video? Is that really a prank by a fans? Because it was so well made... Does anyone know who made it, or any info regarding that vid?? Or is that really taken from a real game?! (yeah, right?)
Does it has any chance to be included in the article?? I noticed that some youtube's popular video that related to an anime mentioned in the anime's article, like Popotan's Caramelldansen and Suzumiya Haruhi's Hare-Hare-Yukai (and a lot of other videos), while I'm aware that this one is not in the same scale those two, do you guys think this one worth mentioning?? Since it got quite a lot of hits, plenty of people tricked by it, and the video itself is convincing and made in high quality in regard to make it as real as possible...
If yes, where should it be put?
PS: If this is actually from a real game, then the whole thing i wrote would be pointless, and I'd better start looking for my dropped face.. lol. Lolipedofin (talk) 16:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hurry up and find your face. The game is right there at the bottom of the code geass infobox.Westrim (talk) 16:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is that thing on youtube?? 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
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replies: text: Fixed. —Dinoguy1000 17:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: I've noticed a change in the article that lists Karen as Karen Kouzuki. In the latest episode it does state that she chooses the Kouzuki name, but is she still known as Karen Stadtfeld or it's okay for the change? See the article to see what I mean. ~ Hyakurei (talk) 20:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know she's always called herself Kallen Kozuki. She only uses the Stadtfeld name in school, and she isn't even bothering to go to school anymore. But I would go with whatever the official website says, if we can't come to a conclusion. the_one092001 (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it seems pretty official that she now calls herself Kallen Kouzuki, so are we changing that or what? ~ Hyakurei (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean "Kouzuki" if you're speaking of episode 18, and I've though for a while now that it should be reworked to emphasize her Japanese side, which is the real her, over the Britannian front. However, there's pagemoves and history merges I'm reluctant on going through to get that done. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Kouzuki is definitely what she and nearly everyone else calls her. I'm think it should be changed that way in her article. 76.201.56.110 (talk) 20:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha. Yes, I meant Kouzuki. Hyakurei (talk) 02:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karen's name 

message: I have always been slightly confused as to the omission of any sort of reference to a Knightmare frames' sortie (their activation). It seems every advanced Knightmare frame requires the activation process, and I was wondering if someone more knowledgeable on the subject could add this information about the "sortie" somewhere in the Knightmare section? I only became aware of how common the activation process was when the Guren Seiten was activated by Sayoko. She sounded out what words would be required for some task, I assume relating to the activation of the Guren. This was in episode 18. Kesa 'Borosee (talk) 00:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You may wish to read up on what a sortie is. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 00:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Kesa's getting the term confused, but I know what they mean. Kesa, just think of it as turning on a car with a couple more steps for security purposes, mixed with a preflight checklist. Every knightmare frame does it, it just happened to be explicitly portrayed that one episode. It's not really that notable. Westrim (talk) 01:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification. When you put it that way, I guess I can agree that it is not worthy of adding onto the Knightmare section. Thanks for listening to my suggestion in the first place though! Kesa 'Borosee (talk) 22:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knightmare frame "Sortie" 

message: Based on recent episodes I think Li Xingke should be considered a main character and kept on this article. He is the Commander-in-Chief under the UFN. Thoughts? ~ Hyakurei (talk) 21:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, but then again he is important enough to have his own article. :D But my question is if we should keep him on the main article under the section of main characters. ~ Hyakurei (talk) 12:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sshhh. My point was that more characters should have articles, even if they aren't necessarily main characters. I'm just laying low on that point until the second season ends. But yeah, I'll remove him from the main article.Westrim (talk) 13:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I don't get the "sshhh" part, but i agree with you on more characters having the their own page. The emperor doesn't even have his own page and he's like the main antagonist right now... ~ Hyakurei (talk) 17:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Xingke should be there because he is an important character to the series, and because of the events he took part in recently in the series I would consider him a main character. And why shouldn't he be on the main characters list, you guy put Kallen on the main characters list and nobody gives a damn about it, so come now he should be there, he deserves it. SilentmanX (talk) 12:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He's no more a main character than Todoh so far. A couple of episodes focused on him, and several more where he shows up for a couple minutes do not a main character make. By contrast, Kallen has been integral to nearly every plot change in the series, aside from the last seven episodes. And they're fiction- they deserve nothing. Oh, and to Hyakurei; I should have expanded to "shh, keep it down so that the mergists don't notice." Westrim (talk) 14:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, he's a much more focused on character than Tohdoh. Importance to the series is different from in-universe importance. We judge characters based on their importance to the plot, and Xingke is far more important than Tohdoh is. Tohdoh hasn't really done that much onscreen since he was rescued from the Britannians, he's always off somewhere leading an army. Xingke is more important and gets far more screen time due to his connection to the Tianzi and of course new importance within the Black Knights. Xingke has been connected with all of the Black Knights' movements in the second season, including their embassy stay, their arrival on Penglai island, the coup and kidnapping, and of course the formation of the UFN. Tohdoh only appears momentarily here and there to do battle occasionally against Suzaku but is usually off somewhere else. the_one092001 (talk) 02:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly is "Importance to the series is different from in-universe importance." supposed to mean? I'm ONLY talking about plot importance, and compared to the other main characters, he's not even close. Tohdoh was just a relative example, both being military and all; try to focus on the point of the analogy rather than the analogy itself. If you can come up with an existing MAIN character that he's equal to or greater than in terms of plot importance, then include him. If you want a better comparison, he's Shirley- but without a skirt or importance to Lelouch, who after all is the main plot driver. Every other main character is important to him (the current unconcern for Kallen notwithstanding): can the same be said for Li?Westrim (talk) 08:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

text: "He's Shirley- but without a skirt or importance to Lelouch..." haha, nicely put. I think we should leave out Li for now, but we might add him in later depending on his importance, and significance in upcoming episodes. He's almost there, but not quite. ~ Hyakurei (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In-universe importance means how important they are to Zero's plans and the Code Geass universe in general. In this regard, Tohdoh is quite important; he's obviously Zero's top general. But what he does is not on-screen, thus it has no real importance to the plot we can see. Shirley is another good example. She has no real importance in the Code Geass universe as a person; she's just another school girl. But because she gets so much screen time in the plots and actions we can see, she is a major character from our perspective. Xingke gets more screen time and is more important to the plots we can see than Tohdoh is, because Tohdoh's always off somewhere else fighting battles and we never see him unless he's giving a status report. Xingke is closer to home coordinating things and generally being more influential than Tohdoh on screen, especially during the Tianzi's kidnapping incident. the_one092001 (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Sigh. I know what in-universe importance means, I meant "how is this applicable to what I wrote?" That said, I can see how you thought I was confused, but I wasn't; I still think Todoh gets more important screen time, while Li's presence was mostly in the subplot they ran for 3 episodes. I think your view may be obscured a bit by time, while my first time seeing this show was three months ago; you seem to forget his importance and screen time in episodes 11 and 14. I disagree with your view of Shirley on account of her importance to Lelouch, who is the center of this universe. Milly fits that profile better. If Li leads the probable rebellion against Zero I'll reconsider, but until then, no. Also, remember to support his inclusion in the main character slot with comparisons TO main characters.Westrim (talk) 12:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what "time" has to do with my view; Tohdoh just doesn't get much character development at all. He's always giving orders, and we know that he once taught Suzaku, but that aside, he's left mostly ignore to simply exist as "that genius general." Shirley isn't important within the Code Geass universe as a person, she is important only because of her connection to Lelouch, which is stronger than Tohdoh's despite his higher importance. The other major example is of course the Emperor. Is there anyone more important than the Emperor of the most powerful country on that Earth? Yet despite that, he's not really a main character because he doesn't get much screen time or background. He gets about as much screen time as Tohdoh does (doing the exact opposite, usually) and yet is nowhere near being a main character. Xingke, however, gets more time and more focus. Since his introduction he's been in pretty much every episode related to the Chinese Federation, which means almost from the beginning of the season. He was showing up at the embassy long before Tohdoh was rescued, and played a more plot-important role in the incident surrounding the Tianzi's kidnapping. All Tohdoh did then was sortie a few times, once against Suzaku but most of his actions were off-screen, whereas we got to see Xingke's fight and his eventual betrayal at the hands of the High Eunuchs, and his efforts to save the Tianzi. Since then he's become the "face" of the Chinese Federation, appearing as a negotiator with the Black Knights as well as fighting to put down civil unrest elsewhere like Tohdoh was doing. He also got more screentime in Episoe 17 than Tohdoh did in Episode 18, leading the assault on Kyushu and battling Bismarck Waldstein and the Knight of Ten.Ironically, that said, I'd wait until the next episode to fully say he should have a main character slot. Whatever he does then decides his importance to the plot for a while, whether it's backing Zero or rebelling against him. the_one092001 (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not even in his relationship with Chiba? And look, Lelouch IS the universe- in terms of plot, what's important (and close) to him is important to us. And to repeat, a couple minutes a day for seven episode plus his very own minor plot arc for three do NOT make a main character. Speaking of that, you still can't find a main character to compare him to, because he's NOT on that level. You apparently prefer to keep dancing around Tohdoh and his importance, when he isn't even up for consideration. Neither Tohdoh NOR Li are main characters, regardless of who is more important. Finally, by focusing on time only in this season, you're just proving my point that you've lost perspective. I'm not going to engage in this any more until you can come up with a more compelling argument than "Tohdoh is less important than LI, therefore Li is a main character."Westrim (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So now we resort to belittling tactics? Whatever happened to AGF? I started watching this show only two weeks after you started watching it, and of course I saw Tohdoh's battle in Episode 11; he sortied a bit and that was all before the action cut to the Black Knights and Lelouch. His sortie in Episode 11 of R2 was eclipsed by the Lelouch-Xingke-Tianzi interaction going on as well. And I have no idea what you're talking about with Episode 14, he doesn't appear in that episode in either the first or second season. In the first season, that's after Narita yet before Lelouch recruits him, and in the second season that's Zero's assault on the Geass Directorate, which Tohdoh does not participate in.If you want a comparison, just look at how much the plot has seriously involved Nunnally in the second season. Yes, she's the Governor and still Lelouch's sister, but she's always ushered away whenever anything important happens. All we see her do is confront Ms. Romeyer and proclaim the creation of the new SAZ of Japan. Yes, she's important because she's a (likely THE) motivator. But so is the Emperor, and he doesn't even have a page. We probably know as much about the Emperor now as we know about Nunnally, and Lelouch seems to hate Charles as much as he loves Nunnally. If importance to Lelouch is the main criteria by which we judge importance, Nunnally shouldn't be there without the Emperor, or Schneizel. Schneizel, as well, gets far more screen time now than Nunnally does since he's now the one in charge of Japan and Britannia's resistance.Maybe a fairer comparison about relative importance is Kallen. She really isn't too important to Zero; at least not enough for it to be the sole reason she's listed here. When she was captured, aside from promising to rescue her, Lelouch didn't do anything special. That Sayoko found her was fortunate, but she's only Priority Item #3. She is important to him, to be sure, but no more so than Shirley was (and she doesn't have an entry here) and only really gets a single episode to elaborate on her past. She's important enough to be a main character because she has a lot of screen time, which are as much a function of her abilities as Lelouch's affections. At least half of her screen time is of her piloting, which has nothing to do with Lelouch's personal affections but more to do with her abilities, which is the same with Xingke. He may not be personally important to Lelouch, but his abilities and level of trust make him important enough to be focused on as a major character, while more two dimensional characters are left aside.The main page does not list any second season characters at all, regardless of importance. I find that to be a major oversight, because the second season is just as important as the first, and just as long. Using the "Lelouch Test," Rolo comes out as quite an important character, since he's Lelouch's supposed brother, agent, and antagonist all in one. The only other new major recurring character I can think of would be Xingke. the_one092001 (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No I'm just getting irritated. So you've only seen the series recently as well, but you still to give unequal weight to events of the second season (If you don't believe that, look at your paragraph on Nunnally, which ignores the events of the first season that strengthen her case). I meant ep. 17 (and both were from season 1), not sure why I wrote 14. I'm not going to discuss any more comparisons to Tohdoh- he was just an easy military example, and comparing him to Li was unbalanced, as I said in my very next post, but you continued to pursue it.Nunnally gets main character status due to her plot centrality, plus her awkwardness in any other category- Imperial family would be closest, but still inaccurate. Schneizel (and the emperor as well) by contrast fits quite well in the Imperial family category- there would have to be a lot more revealed and focused on them to get main character status. The opponent/ villain in any story is nearly always a secondary character, regardless of how often or long they're seen- one of the few exceptions I can think of is Death note, with Light and L, but that relationship doesn't exist here.On Kallen, why is it everywhere I go, people say she was item #3? She was #2- #3 was found in a hanger, which makes it the Guren. And she is very important to Lelouch- he bet his whole army at the time on an effort to recover her right after she was captured- the impression that he spent little effort on recovering her is distorted by later events, like Shirley's death. Its odd that you cite her importance as his ace as a detriment to her importance- Suzaku does that too. Does that make him any less important? That she flies doesn't make her comparable to Li.It's also odd that you cite some sort of prejudice against second season characters- despite the season being barely two-thirds done and the carryover of the first season characters. Yes, Rolo should be up there- he already is on the character page, so go ahead and do it here as well. However, Li should not, and I'm not going to revisit this issue until the season is over and we have the full breadth of it to analyze. This thread is already rather long, so if you really want to pursue it further, I suggest you make a new thread and move it to the character page, which is more appropriate anyway.Westrim (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Li Xingke - a main character? 

message: Shouldn't it be mentioned that in our timeline, the Celtic resistance did elect something equivalent to a "super-king", Vercingetorix? The reason the Celt's lost was not disunity, but that Vercingetorix was not ruthless enough, and allowed Avaricum to stand as a concession to his people.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 05:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Added a short blurb. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 06:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I know it's a bit forum-ish, but 

message: Obviously this is going to be a bone of contention, so I'll just go ahead and create a thread for discussion. I personally am withholding judgment until a Japanese speaker weighs in.Westrim (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if the origin of the name is Japanese or not, but from the latest episode, a screen shot shows the name written as F.L.E.I.J.A. which stands for Field Limitary Effective Implosion Armament. ~ Hyakurei (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Freya (or Freyja) is the Norse goddess of love and a bunch of other stuff. Two other terms in that same screenshot are Fólkvangr, her home, and Sessrúmnir, a hall in her home where the half of slain vikings that didn't go to Valhalla went, so its rather obvious they were going for Freyja (I may not be good with languages, but I love mythology). Whether they took liberties or made a mistake, I don't know. It could just be the ol' R v. L issue we all know and love. Westrim (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of what they may or may not have meant, the screenshot is law in this case. Fleija is how they spell it, so it's how we spell it. A note about the pronunciation can cover the obvious reference. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but the confusion for those not versed in mythology stems from the scene in episode 14 (I think), as well as every time it was mentioned thereafter, where it was referred to in every sub I've seen as Freya, so the question is what those translators based that on. If we go with fleija, then I think every time the term is used it should be written as the acronym it is, not as the proper name you are currently changing it to.Westrim (talk) 21:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I think all instances should be replaced with F.L.E.I.J.A., or at the very least FLEIJA. -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 03:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

text: It's fiction, bombs can do crazy shit. Besides, we already mention that people "killed" by it aren't confirmed as dead. Any more would be OR. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

text: J is fact. Anime spells it that way indisputably. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 05:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood.  Can't figure out why the J is there, or what it stands for, but meh. -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 05:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the J puts it closer to the origin name, as described in my second post. Can't figure out why they couldn't find an r word for the second letter (except possibly the aforementioned flied lice issue), especially since it's just Fun With Acronyms anyway. Westrim (talk) 06:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Aren't freya and F.R.E.I.J.A pronounced the same way in Japanese? 76.201.56.110 (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  FREYA vs FREIJA: the J isn't silent in the Japanese language. (Though it is in Spanish.) Felinius (talk) 15:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freya v. Fleija 

message: I noticed that the infobox doesn't mention the light novel adaptations.  Since there's quite a few volumes and is ongoing, shouldn't it be mentioned in the infobox? Although it will make the infobox rather long... -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 05:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea. I would add it, but I don't know much about the light novels. - plau (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here.  I'm sure SOMEONE will have read them though! I'll try googling some info for it.  Since its for the infobox, shouldn't need too much detail. -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 01:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any way to expand the infobox to cut down on length and use some of the dead space created by the Content box? Westrim (talk) 01:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we can use one of those hide/click to show things in the infobox to hide the details? -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 02:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I dunno. I've been editing for a few months, and am currently working on revamping the Rahxephon articles, but I can't even change the name of a heading in an infobox (from label to description) without it deformatting on me. It's like the template is set in stone and only certain areas can be modified. Westrim (talk) 02:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light Novels 

message: a week ago, it said that a special episode with the 'final reflections' on code geass would air on 5 oct... is that true or where the hell did that info come from (its not there anymore now)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milkmantruck (talk • contribs) 20:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  special 

message: Since I constantly see it deleted and then restored, what is the notability for the Anime Corporation review? If it's just a website I fail to see why we should continue to fight so hard to keep it since it keeps getting deleted, and calling the reviewer "Josh" just makes the entire thing seem less credible; like some random internet guy wrote it. the_one092001 (talk) 03:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  It doesn't appear to be anything like a proper, notable review; just seems to be someone named 'josh' (who I have now checked to be an admin of the site) writing a review on some anime website. Having a brief look around the site, it is basically an anime news and forum site, with only a few anime reviews (which can be submitted by anyone), so nothing really notable for reviews in terms of the site. I removed a review a little while back as well, from minitokyo (a forum site), and I don't see this review being any different from that one, except this is from an admin of the site.  -- Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 06:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anime Corporation Review 

message: Is the Pendragon an imperial city or the capital? The two terms have slightly different meanings. One can be an imperial city but not the capital. (e.g. Some would consider San Francisco an imperial city) - plau (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: EDIT: Or Britannia could have multiple capitals. While the seat of government is at the Pendragon, the actual capital of Britannia is located elsewhere (i.e. Neo-Wales). - plau (talk) 16:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Rouge Penguin? -PatPeter 17:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pendragon - Imperial city vs. Capital city - Location 

message: In the Anime Section of the Media Section of the article, it says that the last episode of Code Geass aired on Adult Swim at 5:00 PM.  I know Adult Swim doesn't start till 10 or 11 pm depending on what day it is, so I know this is wrong, but I do not know the time.  Is it 5:00 AM?  I have seen the show at that time, so that may be the real time, but I do not know so I will not change the info.71.63.25.210 (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone has corrected this, thank you. -PatPeter 17:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Info in Media-Anime section? 

message: The edit made here applies to both these sections -PatPeter 20:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No where, where did you hear that? o.o --Refuteku (talk) 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

text: All over the article. -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in one of the magazines, I don't remember which one. - plau (talk) 15:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

text: If we cannot cite that E.U. really stands for European Universe, we cannot revert someone's edit when they change it to "European Union", as we have no basis for our claim. -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The subs also refer to it as that, however. the_one092001 (talk) 05:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Not the subs, they only say E.U. in the sub (link to YouTube or whatever). -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Settings Problems 

message: Where does this series refer to the E.U. as the Euro Universe? -PatPeter 21:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No where, where did you hear that? o.o --Refuteku (talk) 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

text: All over the article. -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in one of the magazines, I don't remember which one. - plau (talk) 15:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

text: If we cannot cite that E.U. really stands for European Universe, we cannot revert someone's edit when they change it to "European Union", as we have no basis for our claim. -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The subs also refer to it as that, however. the_one092001 (talk) 05:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Not the subs, they only say E.U. in the sub (link to YouTube or whatever). -PatPeter 17:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Euro Universe?