Talk:Tila Tequila/Archive 2

message: Tila is also a rapper...it's not listed on the article, one of her known rap songs is "I Love U" Feat. YA BOY, which the song is also on her Reality Television show "A Shot of Love".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.174.27 (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlock denied. That is a WP:IDONTLIKEIT claim, and that analysis is original research. You need sources to prove your claim. --wL<speak·check> 16:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Famous for being famous Benjiboi 18:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tila's "Career" 

message: And she uses like a ton of makeup. Is she really that relevant to have her own wikipedia entry?66.201.163.228 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 15:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She's a semi-celeb and a model, so, yeah. I don't like her, either...but I don't like a LOT of the subjects featured on Wikipedia (including dictators and terrorists) but they're part of our world and they're well known and this is an online encyclopedia, so... TabascoMan77 (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: cough cough cough! --wL<speak·check> 09:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  She seems yet another Paris Hilton wannabe 

message: Please see the parent section. There has been a two-month dispute over how the subject should be referred to in regards to the last name being a stage name or a birth name. She has been known by both by the media over time, however we can't agree on a good convention.
: I think you have a consensus here. Keep the main article at Tila Tequila, and refer to her as Nguyen until she started using Tequila, and Tequila after that. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As 99% of the public knows her only under the name Tila Tequila, this seems fair. Wedineinheck (talk) 12:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the article in order to follow that consensus. 20:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Naming conflict on last name

message: I was simply lurking on "Recent Changes" and this page came up, so I wanted to see what was up here...first of all, it is unthinkable how long the entry is...can anyone really make a valid claim that all this information here (which yes, still reads like her publicist wrote it) will be useful to anyone in like even a year from now?  It's funny how sometimes Wiki encourages people to lengthen articles that are stubs, but I think there should also be a clause that recommends one "shorten" an article.  I've been reading some of the talk above and it's ridiculous...verification by MTV programs?  Like her publicist/manager doesn't brief her on what to say and what not to say when she's on these tabloid/mindless programs...this is the problem with "anyone can edit"...credibility goes out the window...geez, she's not someone worthy of such a lengthy thing.  Obviously my two cents, and obviously I won't be back, but one last parting word for most who maintain this "Tila Tequila" article, WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A FANSITE...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.22.226 (talk) 02:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your concern, if you feel that the article needs copy-editing to sound more neutral, than please do. or ask someone else to. As for article length, you might want to read up on this guideline about article length as well as  verifiability, are you saying that MTV is not a reliable source? --wL<speak·check> 05:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright... I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I highly doubt the issue here is the actual article itself. It's probably that you're looking too much into it. How does it read like her publicist wrote it? We're not saying she's the best or she's really good at porn or has a hot body. Why? Because there are no sources to back those things up. If we had to shorten an article instead of expand it, that's fine. But that's not how it works. Not to mention, it's called an encyclopedia for a reason. You can go ahead and look it up. Encyclopedias are meant to inform people. Like I said before, how is it a fansite? We're just stating the facts on her. But I see what the problem is here. You obviously don't like Tila or you're just jealous of her. Maybe both. Then you think we're sucking up to her by making an article on her. This article is not even long at all... if you want a long article, go look at United States housing bubble, South Africa, or United States. Maybe even Ayumi Hamasaki, also a good article and long. I'm sure there's more out there. Hate it or love it, I doubt Tila's popularity will be shooting down anytime soon... she seems to be getting more famous by the day. On a last note, this article has been around since 2004 and has gradually improved over the years. In fact, it's been a good article for awhile. Lady★Galaxy 22:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ??????

message: This page has been suffering from so much vandalism in the past month or so. I guess these anonymous IPs really have nothing to do. I tried to get this page protected, but no one would do it for me. Could an admin who drops by just protect this page? It's been vandalized at least twice a day; check the page history. Thanks in advance. Lady★Galaxy 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The level of vandalism on this page does not meet what the protection policy requires for protection. At present the current level can be dealt with by those with rollback and reporting persistent vandals to WP:AIV. -MBK004 00:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: :As I explained on your talk page, this is not a reliable source for a claim about a living person. It's an old version of a comercial webpage. Self-published websites may be used only if the material isn't contentious (and this clearly is, or I wouldn't be removing it.) Again, it doesn't matter if the material is relevant to her career, if it violates policy it stays out. If you want to say something about it, you'll need to find a reliable source discussing it.--Cúchullain t/c 20:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say that including the claim is original synthesis, a form of original research. The best way to solve this is to find a reliable source that states that actually says Tila's Hotspot was made in 2001 as an adult website. --wL<speak·check> 20:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm thinking it won't be too hard to find, she seems to talk about her career frequently. Including the info would be fine if an article (I'm betting no books or university journals have been written on her, yet anyway) backed it up, but I'm very opposed to using the primary source.--Cúchullain t/c 20:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Lol well anyone wanna help me find more reliable sources? The only other sources I can find are threw other adult web sites...CrazyRob926 00:56, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, but good luck with it:) If this hasn't been covered by reliable sources it may need to stay out indefinitely.--Cúchullain t/c 01:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrasing is certainly much better now, but I still have serious concerns with using the primary sources for such material. If anything, the references need to be formatted correctly, including the dates of retrieval, rather than just bald links to the Wayback Machine. The best solution, however, would be giving reliable sources. As I said before, if none can be found, this may have to be taken out. It's not that the material is negative, per se, but that the source is poor for an article on a living person. Someone above brought up the concern with WP:SYNTH/WP:OR, this is a related problem.--Cúchullain t/c 20:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: split comments

message: i think the page shoukld show a picture of the SEX E.P. here is a dirsct link to the picture:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6h6zl9t
i dont know how to do it.
you seem to be good at this stuff..k bye.
also this ouc is really high quality.
:It's on the album's article.  -- Banjeboi 21:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: EP

message: I have read some of the comments on how much Tila has changed her story. Last I checked any article from any magazine is a valid source. I also believe that there should be more information on her pornographic startup. There seems to be a lot of information on her pop culture crap but very little attention to the fact that she is a failing adult website owner along with her other past appearances. I think this should be included so that the article can show Tila as she is, not what MTV, MySpace, or management company has made her to be. I also believe that it will show the true fact that Tila is a liar and should be considered more of a character and not an actual person. 
I admit I do not like her one bit, but at the same time I think that she deserves to be represented as correctly as possible, good and bad.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanhofrj (talk • contribs) 11:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do agree that she started out doing porn, or what was two steps up from it. Then she just morphed into a versatile singer, actor, and glamour model. What else do you want us to put in, though? All the stuff from her first career would definitely violate the NPOV rule. We already mentioned the fact that her website didn't start out the way it's used for now, and she jumped into the racing scene to kick start her career. If you still want to add it though, just follow the rules, find sources, and write some stuff about her "porn" days and dump it in here... ― LADY GALAXY ★彡  Refill/lol 20:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More historical references 

message: Someone had her first name as tee-LAH, which seems odd, and for her last, something much closer to the Vietnamese than most Americans can manage. Anyone know? kwami 19:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For awhile, some people couldn't figure out if it was tee-LAH or TIE-lah, but I have always thought it was the former and thus pronounced it that way. Then her videos and TV show came out, and it became evident that it is the former; she herself pronounces it that way. So yes, her first name is pronounced tee-LAH. Her surname is somewhat of a complicated story. The Vietnamese actually pronounce "Nguyen" as one syllable: "Wun" or "Wen". In English, the pronunciation and alphabet are different, so it became Noo-Yin. So I can answer the first name for you, but the surname is a bit tricky. But this is the English Wikipedia, so I'm guessing we should just go with the "Noo-Yin". ― LADY GALAXY ★彡  Refill/lol 20:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an entire article dedicated to that particular last name, so I based the pronouncation based on what's written there. --wL<speak·check> 00:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

text: No, it is not. It begins with the "ng" phoneme (as in the word "ring," followed by the vowel "u" (oo), then "yen," all executed with a rising tone. It takes a little practice but is not very difficult to say it the right way. Badagnani (talk) 00:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am not an IPA expert.... but it looks like her last name is phonetically spelled "noojin" which is something my girlfriend tried telling me was how it was pronounced. Everywhere else I have looked says it is "hwin" or "uwin" 76.26.90.43 (talk) 13:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

text: "Noojin" is absolutely wrong, as are the other pronunciations you've presented. The reason those pronunciations are used is that most North Americans are not willing to devote the 5-10 minutes of careful practice it would take to pronounce the word properly. There are no physical or genetic differences that would prevent a non-Vietnamese from pronouncing this surname properly. I have given clear directions, in a single sentence, just above. Badagnani (talk) 17:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: I mean, you would think that the press and paparazzi would have photographed her by now over the last few months dating somebody, anybody. I would also think that such sourced material would have made it into the article. That is, if this show was really real and all. TabascoMan77 (talk) 01:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  So...is there any news about her "new" relationship with Bobby?