Talk:Swiss Broadcasting Corporation

message: The article currently states: Télévision Suisse Romande (TSR) is based in Geneva and was in early 2006 broadcasting two TV channels: (Canton Geneva) for TV and in Lausanne (Vaud) for radio. What does the last part of the sentence mean? I thought it was supposed to be talking about television, not radio. --Metropolitan90 03:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Lausanne channel? 

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message: I'm about to create a stub draft article about SRG SSR's historical TV channel that was known as Schweiz 4 in German, Suisse 4 in French, Svizzera 4 in Italian, and Svizra 4 in Romansh. But I can't decide which should be the article's title. Given the multilingual nature of the channel, I don't think either language should dominate. But what can I do?
# Schweiz – Suisse – Svizzera – Svizra 4
# Schweiz 4 – Suisse 4 – Svizzera 4 – Svizra 4
# Schweiz 4 (German name), with Suisse 4, Svizzera 4 and Svizra 4 as redirects
Or, do you have any other idea? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 07:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any English-language sources that discuss the channel? If so, what name do they use? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 11:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, SRG SSR's timeline page in English mentions that "... when the S Plus stations became known as Schweiz 4, Suisse 4, Svizzera 4 and Svizra 4 respectively." That doesn't help much JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 11:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: At first blush, I would say to name the article Swiss 4 and make all the others redirects, putting them all in the lead sentence of the lead paragraph. I know that was never its official name, but this is a sticky situation where if we don't seem to find one name that predominates, it might just be best to translate it to the language of the Wikipedia edition in question (so of course that would mean each other lanuguage edition of Wikipedia would use the respective translation with the others as redirects). If people really do want to find it, it'll turn up in search results. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 16:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Swiss 4 - with the others as redirects. This is going to make the most sense for readers, and is analogous to (for example) the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland where it is named the English translation but with the 4 names immediately afterwards. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 23:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: I would also support creating this article under the name Swiss 4, and creating titles in other languages as redirects, given the examples cited above and from a simplicity point of view on behalf of the reader. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

text: Comment. The correct translation would be "Switzerland 4", not "Swiss 4". — Ætoms [talk] 09:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever the correct translation is, let's use that. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 23:59, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and Ætoms is quite right, it would be translated as Switzerland 4. Feeling a bit silly for not realising earlier. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 23:16, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

text: That it was never named in English is a point that has already been addressed. We have attempted to take that into consideration, but it does not appear that there is any alternative. S4 does not appear to have been a very common nickname for the channel based on the results you've presented so far, so I could not say we can use that as the article's actual name. Many channels have a nickname, and I don't know of any offhand that would be in use as article names for their respective channels. Even then, if we're going to go the nickname route, I don't see how translating the name into English for an explicitly English-language audience wouldn't also be allowed, and should therefore not be given priority. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 15:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I still believe that an English-language name for the English Wikipedia is the most suitable alternative given the shared nature of the names of each channel in the separate languages. A single name in English is much more likely to aid the reader in understanding the subject of the article, and as raised above choosing one language over another or creating a nickname for use in the article when none seems to have existed in real life seems implausible. Additionally, the article for the parent organisation, Swiss Broadcasting Corporation, is also in English in a similar vein, rather than choosing one of the language of the Swiss Confederation (I realise this is backed up by sources but I think the argument still holds weight). Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Article looks good but you need to add some sources there. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 05:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   , ,  and  My apologies, I wasn't aware of this discussion before asking another user about creating this article which has now been done under option 1. Fort esc (talk) 13:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  S... 4