Talk:Double bass/Archive 4

message: I don't believe it's neccisary to have a paragraph in here about Slam Stewart, Charles Mingus and Scott LaFaro.  They contributed greatly, but their contributions can be covered on their page, not this page.  This page should be about the bass and its function in music.  Kntrabssi 23:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and that anon just added LaFaro. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 23:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could we separate the DB page from the 'bass players' as were thinking of doing on the Bass guitar page. Maybe we could put all the bass players together on one page???? (light blue touch paper and retire immediately)--Light current 02:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

text: There is already a page for list of bass guitarists and Im not suggesting we put DB players there unless thers a lot of support for that move. However, Im not sure if there exists a page for DB players as yet--Light current 18:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree 8-)--Light current 20:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pruning Section 

message: We should have a consistent policy when referring to the bass in this article as far as the name goes.  It may be confusing to call it the double bass in one part, the string bass in another and the contrabass in another.  Since the title of this page is Double Bass, I propose that all references made to the instrument be Double Bass.  Kntrabssi 17:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referring to the bass 

message: * "Double bass rosin is generally softer and stickier than violin rosin, to give the greater adhesion to the strings,..."  Could anyone explain to me what the last part of this sentence means?  Kntrabssi 17:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double bass rosin 

message: The nicknames of the double bass are way too long.  What if we stuck to only the most common nicknames, or only what would appear on a piece of music?  That would leave double bass, string bass, contrabass, and bass.  It may look a little more professional.  Kntrabssi 17:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree.  This considerably shortened list is not comprehensive.  We do not get to choose which nicknames are valid or not, just which have been used.  Keep list of nicknames "as is."  Badagnani 20:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: THe DB gets call all sorts of things and, whilst we may think some of these names are disrepectful to (y)our art, I reluctantly agree with Badagnani that we will have to keep them in. But how about putting the proper ones in the main bit and relegating the slang terms to a section on its own near the bottom of the page! 8-)--Light current 20:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well Im easy!. I wonder what KB thinks of this compromise?--Light current 20:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: My edits for the nicknames were simply to shorten the article.  There are plenty of nicknames out there that haven't been put in the we may not even know of yet.  My attempt was to make the article a little more professional looking by using only the nicknames that would appear on a piece of sheet music handed out in an orchestra, jazz band or symphonic band.  Since Wikipedia is all about comprimise, I am fine with this.  However, Badagnani, in your careless reversions you have gotten rid of all of my citation tags, as well as reverted some text that mentions other bass players, which we have agreed is not the place in this article.  I am going to revert them one last time before I bring it up for mediation.  Please read this discussion page before making these reversions in the future.  Thanks!  Kntrabssi 21:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposition on Nicknames 

message: What does the bass clef symbol actually represent?
--Light current 22:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The clef on the staff of the music you are reading shows what range of music you are playing. Most orchestra stuff is in bass clef. Advanced solo music is usually mostly in treble. Either way, the double bass actually plays an octave down from the actual notes it is reading. For example, if a cello and bass were to read the same music (cellos are usually in bass clef too), the bass would be playing the same pitches, but an octave lower. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not quite following you. If your asking it's origins, most people think that it came from a variation of a cursive "F", which is the note that the clef rests on (the line with the little ball of the hook on it). — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, alot of people call it that. I guess I just didn't figure you'd be asking something so obvious. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that might be getting a little off-topic. It's certainly worth mentioning that it is also called the f-clef, but I don't think we need to say where it came from. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bass clef symbol 

message: Does anyone know exactly why the strings (and fingerboard) are 'fanned out' from a width of about 1.5" at the nut to about 3" (or more) at the bridge. Or is this a stupid question?--Light current 03:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you think about it: the space is needed near the bridge for bow clearance, and it would be tremendously more difficult to play if that same spacing were used at the nut... so that's just my logical conclusion. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 14:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I can't comment on bass guitars, so maybe you should take your question there. I do know that the spacing on double basses vary due to lack of standardization, but not by a lot. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 18:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Fanning' of strings 

message: Anyone know whether bass playing (on its own) can damage your hearing. Is it less damaging than (say) playing the violin next to your ear all the time? 8-?--Light current 20:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither is loud enough to damage your hearing permanently. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 21:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I have always found that frequency is not the issue, but volume.  So you can play flute or piccolo or oboe or anything high as well as low, but if you play them at a safe voluem, you should be fine.
Yeah but whats a safe volume with amplified bass? - it always sounds louder further away you get from the speaker and people always say youre too loud when you can only just hear yourself! 8-( --Light current 22:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm... I would look at the page on decibels for the answer on that!  I generally do not play an amplified instrument, so I am not the best one to consult about that.
I think Im going to pose this one on the Bass guitar page!--Light current 22:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Good idea. But like I said, you could play your unamplified double bass as loud as you could for hours, and not get hearing damage. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deafness from DB playing