Talk:Food preservation

message: In the Irradiation section there is a part that says "and at higher doses inducing sterility". Is this vandalism? If it is not, then I don't understand its meaning and suggest that someone re-word this!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.9.250 (talk) 13:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism?

message: Sorry, I'm not trying to edit-war here!  The links you put in do work, but underscores in text are very ugly (they may be hidden by the underlining on your monitorlbut they're not on mine; some people's stylesheets won't underline links at all).  Food irradiation is almost always preferable to Food_irradiation (I don't even know why the other one works).  As for the other link, I prefer the sentence without a capital letter in the middle, and I think "radiation treatment" fits the sentence better than "food irradiation" (and I linked to the same place). I apologize, though, for my first edit, which broke a link because I misspelled "irradiation".  --Andrew 18:18, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
: Well I fine with you titling the links "food irradiation" or "Food irradiation" instead of "Food_irradiation" but not "radiation treatment", as radiation treatment sounds like and usually refures to radiation therapy in cancer treatment and would be confusing to readers. --BerserkerBen 14:41, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: can somebody document the claim that "The addition of urine at the time of packing the fish into the ice is said to assist in preservation and to improve the flavour of the food when eaten"? i guess it could be true, but it sounds like a prank. assuming it's true, how many people are "saying" this? 2.5? thanks.
SaltyPig 14:54, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: i googled the claim a bit, and found no corroboration. removed. SaltyPig 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: where did i denigrate knowledge because it wasn't googled? i simply reported on what i'd done so far to verify the claim. perhaps you could share how you came by what you wrote above, and modify the article accordingly. however, i don't believe that what you wrote justifies putting the text in as it stood, nor am i bamboozled by your "as to verification" comment. i didn't mention anything about the best way to verify anything. i thought the claim might be a prank, and i removed it because nobody said anything in support of it. please don't build rabbit trails for a simple issue. SaltyPig 20:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: never mind. i'll leave this page to the wiki/urine aficionados. "it is said" i didn't have my Ps and Qs in order (egads), so i've reverted back the wonderful claim that "it is said" blah blah blah. let the experts handle this crucial issue. :P SaltyPig 21:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: urine flavor?

message: There is still another method commercially used to preserve food products using high pressure treatments. This may warrant addition to your list. 67.162.160.230 04:32, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  High pressure food preservation 

message: I believe the statement about lye under the pickling section is wrong. In none of the mentioned foods is lye used for preservation. Instead, lye is used to modify the food's taste and texture. In the case of olives it is used to remove the bitter flavor. Notice that the lye is then removed by multiple water baths. In the case of Lutefish and hominy the food is preserved by drying and the food is only soaked in lye, usually right before cooking, to modify its characteristics, but not for preservation. Alephone 03:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lye 

message: There is an orphaned image Image:Preserve classification.JPG that should be considered for addition in this article.  A knowledgeable editor should look and the image; it should be deleted if it is not included.  Jon513 12:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  image 

message: Merge from Food storage container into this article
Completing another user's merge.
* The benefit of merging depends on how it is done.  Overall, I don't support it.  Food storage portrays a discussion on the optimal ways of holding food in defined spaces.  The discussion centres on suitable space, and environmental conditions within that space. There are elements of preservation in that discussion.  The art and science of food preservation deals with the properties of the food.  The food's reaction to the storage environment is just an element in this discussion.  If well merged, the discussion thread can flow smoothly and the transfer of knowledge will be complete to the learners.  Otherwise let us not merge them.  EddieGH  —Preceding unsigned comment added by EddieGH (talk • contribs) 18:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge - Food storage containers 

message: Why is there no mention in the article of preserving fruit in the form of jam/jelly? There is a section on sugaring, ie crystalized fruit, but this isn't the same thing at all.  Obscurasky (talk) 08:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jam, etc 

message: Water Activity in foods should be a brief section of this article with a proper link to the wiki of "Water Activity".  Activities such as Drying, Salting, Sugaring, Jamming, and "adding preservatives" are all based on reducing Water Activity in food.  See links for more information: 
http://www.cip.ukcentre.com/wa1.htm
http://www.crees.org/forms/29.pdf
or simply google "water activity food spoilage"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.42.103.8 (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water Activity in Food 

message: The table on the right seems very out of place as it merely replicates (albeit not fully) what's already written in the text. The last paragraph of the lede also seems like overkill and would be better pared down to just the most common types of food preservation. Comments anyone?  Obscurasky (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, I've removed the table, for the reasons given above. I'll stick it here for now, in case any one want's to salvage anything from it - and I'll remove it in about a week. Obscurasky (talk) 22:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the point of the table on the right hand side? 

message: "Optimum temperature range for perishable food storage is 3 to 5 °C (37 to 41 °F)."
It seems that for most food the ideal optimum storage temperature would be just above freezing, about 1C, 33F. Is this true? Where can one find detailed facts, tables and graphs of storage time as a function of temperature for various foods? What temperatures are used for ideal commercial storage of various foods?-96.237.13.111 (talk) 14:31, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  food storage optimum temperature 

message: The article doesn't seem to explain how sugar preserves food. Does it remove moisture, or does it prevent moisture re-entering previously desiccated food? Best Regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 19:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sugar 

message: I think this article is only half as useful as it could be if it included some average storage times.  How long do canned (home jars) foods last?  How long does dehydrated food last if sealed?  What about sealed with a desiccant packet? What about meats vs vegetables? Which methods are best for preserving nutrients?  For someone searching for a "Food Preservation" article, that's probably the information they're most looking for.  Perhaps a table comparing all of these things would be useful, much like tables on software articles that compare features.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.196.193 (talk) 09:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Each method should include average storage times and effect on nutrients 

message: See the article on fermented foods for a long list of people places, and foods that are fermented.
146.226.30.27 (talk) 20:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: What? No fermentation? 

message: A page noting the passing of Dr. Brynjolfsson as a decorated expert in the fields of food preservation has been created and those familiar with the subject matter are invited to contributed. Ari Brynjolfsson Orrerysky (talk) 18:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Dr. Ari Brynjolfsson

message: Shouldn't potting have its own section? It's storing something in fat rather than jelly, it's different to jellying though they are similar.Gymnophoria (talk) 17:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Potting

message: "Many processes designed to preserve food will involve a number of food preservation methods."
This is stating the same things twice.  It's obvious that different food preservation methods involve many food processes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:11CF:D850:2190:EA86 (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  redundancy  

message: Sugar has the ability to preserve fruit without boiling first for jam or mixing it with an "antimicrobial" solution.  This needs to be stated.  It does not say how sugar works and an antioxidant.  Preservation is in fact antioxidation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:11CF:D850:2190:EA86 (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sugar can preserve without boiling or "antimicrobials" 

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message: 154.118.21.240 (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2019 

message: 2404:5540:400:133:78CA:DD7D:CD79:D7AF (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ––FormalDude talk 12:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2021 

message: Please move the second carcinogen sentence (beginning "In 2015, the") to a new "Health hazards" section.  Right now, the introduction has two sentences about carcinogens, but nothing appears outside the introduction.  To quote MOS:LEAD, "Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article." 123.51.107.94 (talk) 23:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: . It seemed to fit best in the "curing" section, which also mentions salting and smoking. I left the short sentence about carcinogens in the lead. ~Anachronist (talk) 08:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2024 

message: In this phrase:
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please decapitalise "Autumn". 123.51.107.94 (talk) 01:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Tollens (talk) 03:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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