Talk:Wii/Archive 25

message: Reuters article on weight loss from playing the Wii
 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VTNC (talk • contribs) 07:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the point in posting this? Just64helpin 15:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The very nature of the console is more physically demanding than conventional game consoles, so it has some basis as proof that the console really is like exercise JayKeaton 10:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So... Are you suggesting that the information be added to the Wii article? Just64helpin 18:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand the confusion. Isn't that the implication of presenting a source related to the subject on its talk page? Leebo T/C 15:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But... isn't there a need for, say, "reliability" here? A single person's experience can not be considered indicative of any trend. Now, if you have a study proving the connection, then that could be different. But a fluff piece about a single person's statement? That's just too unreliable to include. Bladestorm 16:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A study you say?  Funny you should say that ...  ... Tim (Xevious) 12:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I saw on that American MSNBC Today Show, a manager of a gym said he has started Wii fitness classes. It's amazing, we even get Letterman here in Australia JayKeaton 15:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that if people take the idea of using the Wii as a weight loss system to far people will forget what it is really for...pure video game entertainment. Will253 8:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight loss 

message: Can we get a new picture of the box? The lighting isn't that great in the shot, and it is hard to distinguish the features of the box. Thanks --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 00:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure which picture you're looking at. The picture of the Wii boxes shows all but the top and bottom sides, and its clear that there are pictures of the Wii, Wii Remote, and a person holding the Wii Remote. Not much more detail is needed. Sure, it's a little dim and there's a bit of glare, but the features are still distinguishable.--the ninth bright shiner talk 21:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think the shot of the Wii with the side flap open needs a retake moreso. There's a fair amount of glare, and the overall lighting is pretty bad. Slydevil 00:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the picture with the side flap open could be better. But I think all the other pictures are just fine. Bladestorm 00:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I replaced the side flap photo with one that has less glare, though the lighting is the same. Just64helpin 15:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree that the box picture could be better. It looks like it could be a picture from the camera of a mobile phone. Do we even need a picture of the box there? That section doesn't mention the box. Perhaps a picture of a Wii console next to a DVD case to go along with the comparison of the size of a Wii to DVD cases, or maybe it should contain a photo of Wii console next to a ruler as recommended by Template:NoCoins. Jecowa 00:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii photos

message: Just to give you all a heads up, this will be tomorrow's featured article of the day. This page gets a lot of vandalism as it is, I can't imagine how much will happen to it tomorrow. --LuigiManiac 00:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: also it's been un Semi-Protected so this page can be edited by annons also. It is usually policy no to protect the FA of the day, so no one should try requesting protection tomorrow. Just keep this page open and watch for vandalism all tomorrow. The Placebo Effect 00:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prepare for the storm 

message: Though it's sort of odd to see a subject that's only been out for several months --I mean, at least other video game-related FAs could put things in a longer term context... Regardless, FTW ;-) --Bobak 00:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only bad thing (and this applies to EVERY article that is "Today's Featured Article") is that vandalism shot up. Still nice to know that an article I helped work on is featured on the front page of WP. TJ Spyke 00:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I learned yesterday that this was today's featured article, I was quite surprised. I had no idea it was even a featured article! *voice of SSB announcer* CONGRATULATIONS! --LuigiManiac 01:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, I beat Ganon in Zelda: Ocarina of Time today (on VC)! Weird. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 01:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Congradulations! --68.193.242.160 02:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone put (This is a console for faggots!) in but I removed it169.229.112.131 03:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, Lord... a console article being featured... let the vandalism begin.--Surfaced 03:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the edit history, it already has. We've seen more vandalism in the last 6 hours then we had in the last month. The one bad thing about being TFA is that it had to be unprotected, allowing all these IP vandals. TJ Spyke 03:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the price you have to pay for featured status. With fame comes paparazzis and critics. =P. For The Wiin. Berserkerz Crit 08:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Upon viewing the article, I noticed that the intro was repeated twice. Doesn't look like something a vandal would do, but I'm surprised the FA committee missed that. Kareeser|Talk! 15:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Call the Rawful Lawfuls! Quatreryukami 15:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Feature Article today!

message: The box, which is currently at the top of the references section, causes the latter to be forced into two narrow columns. Can it be moved anywhere else? -Phoenix 02:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not getting that problem. ONE reference spills into two lines, but all the other look the same as they did when the box wasn't there. TJ Spyke 02:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, yeah. I think I read about this; it's a Firefox problem. -Phoenix 02:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking that too. Firefox users also have problems with wrestling PPV articles. TJ Spyke 02:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks just fine in Firefox version 2.0. Jecowa 04:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Happens to me too. Firefox 2.0.0.3 MahangaTalk 04:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected home game consoles 

message: I know that technically the Japanese for 'yes' is ii, but the name 'Wii' is supposed to invoke that sound in Japan. Here's the website: . Do you think it's worth mentioning in the article? Corvokarasu 16:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant to say 'good,' thanks for catching that. Corvokarasu 17:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The Japanese name is a simple transliteration of "we". ウィー. Like what Nintendo's saying, it's pronounced the same as "we".—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ 03:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Of course this is all speculation and it would be original research to add to the article. -- mattb 17:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Original research shouldn't be added the discussion page either. Just64helpin 17:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there someone fluent in Japanese who might be able to glean something from websites in Japanese? I only took one semester in college and that was a couple of years ago now. Corvokarasu 17:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are many ways to say both "yes" and "no" in Japanese and also different ways to say "good." "Ii" is indeed the most common colloquial term that means something like "good." As for "wii," there is no "wi" syllabic sound in Japanese. There is just "wa" and "wo" currently in modern use. And both of those are only reserved for their respective particles. "Wi" no longer exists as part of the hiragana and so like stated above, the closest approximation would be "uii." As for the name of the console being related to the word "ii," well until we get some definite and official sources, it will remain mere speculation. The great kawa 19:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well yeah, we know all that, it's in the article. But since Nintendo is Japanese, it's reasonable to believe "Wii" might be a play on words in Japanese as well as English. Working off that idea is what produced the above discussion. --Herald Alberich 05:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I must say, Japanese is a little more leinient than you guys think. Even though it is technically incorrect in Japanese, there is a Japanese artist who calls himself Korn. It's pronounced as it would be phonetically in English. And most people aren't so hard assed when it comes to saying things right anyway. People will make exceptions to rules when they know what is right and what is wrong, especially when it comes to language. I don't think Japan is any different. Gopherbassist 00:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, let me shed some light on this subject, Nintendo Power featured a whole article on the name "Wii". According to Nintendo Power, Nintendo chose the name "Wii" because it is the sound of delight. C. Pineda 01:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Wii' isn't Japanese?

message: Would it make sense to add a list of known accidents and people getting hurt? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.98.229.10 (talk • contribs) 
:Probably not. If you want to include such a thing, make  a section mentioning that the Wii Remote is prone to be misused, and thus, cause injuries. Mention a couple incidents, maybe even point them to www.wiihaveaproblem.com. We don't need to make a comprehensive list, just make the fact known. Leave the lists to the bloggers. --RockMaster-talk|contribs 18:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed before, and it was agreed that it wasn't notable. IMO, all those people are idiots since it's not that hard to hold onto the controller, even if the strap broke the person should still know how to hold the controller. TJ Spyke 21:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is notable is that straps were breaking, prompting action from Nintendo. This is already in the article. Just64helpin 19:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the accidents can probably not be proved.  Anyone can just cut the writst strap and throw the Wii remote at the TV.  Playing the Wii myself, I have not noticed any problem with keeping the Wii remote in my hand, even when my hands are sweating from hours (5+) of playing.  I have found out that some Wii users in my area don't even put their wrist straps on. --Bubblewrapp 18:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In all actuality, the wrist straps were never the problem, it was the idiots wielding them. There's no reason why they should be even pushed to that point in the first place. Most of the accidents I have seen came as a result of people not wearing the strap, or simply not paying attention to where their hands were.--RockMaster-talk|contribs 20:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of accidents

message: I was just glancing over the article, and fixed three obvious little things that were missing. I wonder, are there another other simple mistakes lying around in the article? This was just a cursory glance, so a better eye than mine should be able to catch these things fairly easily. --RockMaster-talk|contribs 18:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this just me, or is this article...missing something? 

message: Just wandering, as a trivial thing Sergeant K 21:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that there is no font associated with the wii logo such as that there is no font associated with the Spider-Man 2 logo (see PS3) - oops!  no original research allowed!. In other words, I do not think that there is one.71.168.113.79 21:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then how come it shows the font under the logo on the Wii page of this site? Sergeant K 21:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be an image and not a font. Axem Titanium 22:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually,  there's a font very similar to it called Continuum. Heres a link: http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=art&message.id=227617
THe Font is the Same (cept' for the rounded W) as in the DS Lite. It's New Century Gothic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.92.71.20 (talk • contribs) 
yes, sort of, they probably used that font while making an image in photoshop, so it is a little different from the actual new century gothic. if your thinking about the two "I"s bowwing, that can easily be done in photoshop, or in another program.--as always, QuinnTheAspie 01:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the font in the Wii logo? 

message: Checking the history of the article reveals a long vandalism-revert-vandalism-revert chain, mainly from anons. Don't we need (semi)protection? --NetRolller 3D 21:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Been refused at WP:RPP as article on main page (tradition?).  I think 24 vandalisma in 35 minutes is rather a lot, but hey... Shenme 21:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not likely to be granted. Admins don't like semi-protecting pages that are "Today's Featured Article" except as a last resort (like edit warring). There have been some IP's making good edits since it was put on the front page. For now, all we can do is give warnings to the vandals and report them if they keep it up. TJ Spyke 21:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, now that it no longer on the front page, should we not reinstate it's Semiprotected status? --RockMaster-talk|contribs 01:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The vandalism has settled down, but you can request it if you want. TJ Spyke 01:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Only protect after one more day IF their is significant levels of vandalisim, no need to protect it if no one is vandalising it. The Placebo Effect 01:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is last day for Wii being on the Main Page then tomorrow it should be semi-protected.  I don't think full protection is needed since most vandals will forget about their accounts after 4 days(which I think is the amount of time you need to wait before you can edit semi-protected pages.)  *NOTE*  I am a newb to Wikipedia, if this turns out wrong please delete my [bad] changes--Bubblewrapp 18:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Semi)Protection needed! 

message: Please.
Erm... What's wrong with it again? Ixistant 15:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please explain what this means?  I don't understand what you are saying.  Maybe I could help if you told me what is wrong. --CrazedCook 13:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, that comment was made a month and a half ago.  It's pretty safe to assume that the issue has been addressed.  --Maxamegalon2000 19:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix the infobox... 

message: can Japanese wii/GameCube games be played on an American Wii console?
:No, it's region locked. Purplepurplepurple 19:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This information was actually in the article, but was removed for some reason. It's back now. Just64helpin 00:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes the Wii uses the NTSC/PAL system that almost every game system does, see the NTSC and PAL articles to see which regions use which. TJ Spyke 21:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: That is what Nintendo originally said. However, North America has gotten a TG16 game that was originally only released in Japan and Europe had also gotten games that haven't been released in Europe before. Nintendo has said they may do this as well (which I am glad because I really want to play Sin & Punishment, should be easy for them since it was already translated into English but just not released outside of Japan). The TurboGrafx-16 was released in Europe (as the Turbografx), see the system's article for more details. TJ Spyke 21:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Region lockout, NTSC/UC and PAL  

message: If Wii is now a featured article, does that mean Wikipedia will be accused of supporting Nintendo if it does not make the other 7th generation cosoles featured articles?  I think they do deserve some attention for their technology.  I am not saying this because I like them or anything, I just like it when the Day's Featured article is something I know a litte bit about. --Bubblewrapp 18:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For an article to be featured, it must meet the Featured Article Criteria. It's up to the editors of the other 2 consoles' articles to improve it up to that standard, and nominate it.--Kylohk 18:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it has nothing to do with the subject of the article. It just has to meet the FAC, which the PS3 and Xbox 360 articles do not. TJ Spyke 00:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the you, for an article to be featured it goes by a list of objective and impartial criteria, so I think there's is no point for anyone to claim that. And if someone that likes/edits more some other seventh generation video game claims that, that same person should then work on that article so that it'll be featured also! --eusourei(talk) 01:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Systems being featured? 

message: About this: "A distinguishing feature of the console is its wireless controller," 
I propose either the word "distinguishing" or "wireless" be removed from this sentance segment.  In its present incarnation, it suggests that it is "distinguishing" because of it being "wireless".  The other consoles of this generation also have wireless controllers.
Further, the word "distinguishing" is a form of the word Distinguished which means "standing above others in character or attainment or reputation; Fine, with distinctive character, elegance and refinement."  Its being used here is to impart a gushing or "postive-weasel" word - without clear and absolute praise, has been chosen by someone for the purpose of associating a positive-bias.
I propose this:
"A defining feature of the console is its controller; the Wii Remote.  It is a wireless, handheld pointing device and can detect motion and rotation in three dimensions." or the less colloquial; "The defining feature of the console is its controller; the Wii Remote.  The Wii Remote is a wireless, handheld pointing device and can detect motion and rotation in three dimensions."
By the way
"handheld pointing device and can detect motion and rotation in three dimensions."
Rotation is a motion.  This should be: "handheld pointing device and can detect motion in three dimensions."
Finally we have:
"The defining feature of the console is its controller; the Wii Remote.  The Wii Remote is a wireless, handheld pointing device and can detect motion in three dimensions."
:This is nit picking to the extreme... Allow me to quote the OED:
::di'stinguishing, ppl. a.
:::1. Constituting a difference; serving to distinguish or mark off from others; distinctive, characteristic; sometimes in stronger sense, That renders (a person, etc.) distinguished or eminent.
:::2. That perceives differences or makes distinctions between things; discriminating.
:Picking one connotation of the word and using it as your grounds for a claim of intentional bias is just silly, so let's not go down that road.  That being said, I see nothing wrong with changing the wording to something like your second proposal since it doesn't change the meaning. -- mattb 15:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you not believe that the article would be most neutral, concise and accurate with the final suggestion?  While it may seem "nitpicky" it is accurate, the word "distinguishing" is informed by the word "distinguished", and if you want to see the article more neutral, why not simply remove the weasel word? Why not just change it? 136.2.1.153 15:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already said I have no problem with the change.  Yes, it is nitpicky.  Choosing a marginal connotation of a word and claiming bias due to it is silly at best, bad faith at worst.  You can request a change without waving the bias finger. -- mattb 15:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll apologize, I do not want to waive the 'bias finger'.  I will say this; the final recommendation will result in an article that shows the least bias.  If the goal is to provide an accurate, unbiased and concise article, you will support my final recommendation. (in my best lawyer talk).  thanks. 136.2.1.153 15:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: No one. If you'd like to have the page changed, consider logging in under your account. Then you can modify the page yourself. As a word of advice, it's probably a good idea anyway. Your talk page displays some unfortunately detailed information about your IP. Jbanes 19:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I made the recommended change. Wageslave 23:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: As far as I know that statement is entirely accurate. While the Xbox360 can perform background downloading, it is not at all the same as what the Wii can do - downloading in a basically off state (or very low power standby mode). The spring dashboard update for the 360 allows users to have their system automatically turn off once a download is complete, but that is not standby-mode downloading. Zomic_13 19:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, Im happy to let you know that is exactly what the XBox 360 does.  The adapter & HD run while the unit is in stand-by mode.  What the Spring Dashboard update does is -- new and in addition -- automatically turn the console to 100% completely off. after complete. The statement that wiiconnect is "unique" or "distinguished" for posessing this feature is incorrect. AS IS the previous two/three sentances (please read above) Wageslave 03:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Positive bias in start of article 

message: The assertion "A distinguishing ..... Another is WiiConnect24, which enables it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode."
Is inaccurate.  The XBox 360 is capable of downloading content, in the 'background' while the console is in off (clearly, not "off", but a form of standby mode).  This segment is inaccurate at best.
I recommend, along with the changes above that the entire paragraph becomes:
"The defining feature of the console is its controller; the Wii Remote.  The Wii Remote is a wireless, handheld pointing device and can detect motion in three dimensions.  Like XBox LIVE, WiiConnect24, is able it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode."
or probably more palatable to the reality-contortion experts guarding this article:
"The defining feature of the console is its controller; the Wii Remote.  The Wii Remote is a wireless, handheld pointing device and can detect motion in three dimensions.  Like another console of this generation, WiiConnect24, is able it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode." 
I eagerly await the twisting and gnashing of teeth as to why this inaccuracy should remain.
136.1.1.154 16:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know that statement is entirely accurate. While the Xbox360 can perform background downloading, it is not at all the same as what the Wii can do - downloading in a basically off state (or very low power standby mode). The spring dashboard update for the 360 allows users to have their system automatically turn off once a download is complete, but that is not standby-mode downloading. Zomic_13 19:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, Im happy to let you know that is exactly what the XBox 360 does.  The adapter & HD run while the unit is in stand-by mode.  What the Spring Dashboard update does is -- new and in addition -- automatically turn the console to 100% completely off. after complete. The statement that wiiconnect is "unique" or "distinguished" for posessing this feature is incorrect. AS IS the previous two/three sentances (please read above) Wageslave 03:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate as well in same paragraph 

message: How come we're not locking this page? It's been vandalized too many times within the last week or so. It's annoying to see the entire page replaced with vulgar language. FyreNWater 01:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I filed a RFP, seems like we can't unprotect the page without it being vandalized almost right away. TJ Spyke 01:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree to lock this, but I'm too noobish to understand how to. Or restore stuff from vandalism. Anyone care to post some newbie guide for me? Am00nz0r5 01:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The page likely won't get protected since admins don't like protecting pages that are "Today's Featured Article". The page was semi-protected for a long time, but was unprotected in preparation for this. See WP:Vandalism for strategies on fighting vandalism. TJ Spyke 01:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't lock it right now, it's the Article of the Day. --LuigiManiac 01:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Being on the main page is the reason it's not locked. --Maxamegalon2000 17:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry did not know that is was not locked for that reason. All i know it that this artical normally gets vandalised when not locked and with it on the main page and more taffic would also mean more vandalism. i was not impressed with the micheal wolfe edit. i was impressed however by how fast it cam off. it was removed before i got to my computer. Rob mc 1 17:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just got vandalized by taking away everything and writing Fukusdff...I reverted it, I think. I went into History, went to the last good version, and hit Save. Sorry if I did something wrong. I'm rather new to editing.
I suggest that you ask the admins to ban every who vandilises. Since Wii rules. Kill all Vandilizaers! Ļăŋ, Đřăĝόŉ Ķňĭģħŧ Ŏf Ĺĭģĥť 22:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All of his edits have been vandalism, and he has been given a final warning. If he vandalizes again, he will probably get a permanent block as a vandalism-only account. TJ Spyke 23:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: I was wondering if information on how many units are supposed to be available each month and an approximation of how they are distributed would be pertinent information for this article. Gopherbassist 02:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We could possibly get shipment numbers from Nintendo, but how they are distributed would probably be OR since I don't recall Nintendo ever detailing that. TJ Spyke 02:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know, but I do know that the Wii has been out for 33 weeks, and its been sold out all 33 weeks.FrogTape 20:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Availability?

message: While I agree with the above comments about a list of Wii induced injuries, shouldn't at least some mention be given to it? We already mention technical issues and legal issues, along with wrist strap problems. Plenty of people have written about being sore after playing wii, I read a news article on how the actions the wiimote requires causing soreness, even proposing that it might be referred to as "Wii Syndrome" soon enough. It's definitely been talked about enough that it deserves at least a passing mention, does it warrant it's own section though? -- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  12:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be helpful if you specified which news article you read. Just64helpin 18:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was about a week ago, unfortunately. Sites like Kotaku and Joystiq probably mention it some, but I got it from an actual newspaper.-- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  17:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Huh? TJ Spyke 09:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: (Note: Tennis elbow is called Tennis elbow, even if it's caused by something by different physical activity.) I don't think that adding an "overuse injury" section would pose a problem, as long as it's properly sourced. So if you want to take on that project, feel free to do so. --Jbanes 17:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Creating a paragraph within the "Reception" section would be more appropriate. Just64helpin 21:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: A new disease called "Acute Wiitis" has been documented as a media case. The cause of this disease is by playing too much motion simulated games in front of the Nintendo Wii, such as the tennis game. It was reported that playing the real physical game may not cause such a problem. However, with this new game console, players are too engrossed to overplay which leads to serious joint problems. check out the source http://www.webmd.com/news/20070606/nintendo-game-sparks-acute-wiitis?src=RSS_PUBLIC for this recent health news.  Arielfang 22:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It's nothing new. This can be caused by any physical activity. Lrrr IV 22:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii injuries? 

message: what? nothing? =( __earth (Talk) 08:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? TJ Spyke 09:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: (Note: Tennis elbow is called Tennis elbow, even if it's caused by something by different physical activity.) I don't think that adding an "overuse injury" section would pose a problem, as long as it's properly sourced. So if you want to take on that project, feel free to do so. --Jbanes 17:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Creating a paragraph within the "Reception" section would be more appropriate. Just64helpin 21:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: A new disease called "Acute Wiitis" has been documented as a media case. The cause of this disease is by playing too much motion simulated games in front of the Nintendo Wii, such as the tennis game. It was reported that playing the real physical game may not cause such a problem. However, with this new game console, players are too engrossed to overplay which leads to serious joint problems. check out the source http://www.webmd.com/news/20070606/nintendo-game-sparks-acute-wiitis?src=RSS_PUBLIC for this recent health news.  Arielfang 22:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It's nothing new. This can be caused by any physical activity. Lrrr IV 22:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii elbow 

message: I have seen mention of this in another article, and think that it should be expanded on, although I do not understand what exactly it means. Under controllers in the History of video game consoles (seventh generation)#Comparison it mentions Game Boy Advances. Does anyone know what this means? Laptopdude 01:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume it means for the GameCube games that use GBA's (like The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures or Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles). No Wii games use GBA's. TJ Spyke 02:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29&diff=131454178&oldid=131440844 I clarified it here, hope that helps -- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  02:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: THen your wrong thats not what it means. 70.190.109.11 01:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It's already mentioned in the Backwards Compatibility section that the Wii doesn't support the Game Boy Player (and thus, the e-Reader as well). TJ Spyke 20:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the user was referring to the Nintendo GameCube Game Boy Advance Cable, which can connect to the Wii through the GCN controller ports. Just64helpin 20:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just64helpin is correct, I was referring to the e-Reader and GBA's connectivity though the use of the Nintendo GameCube Game Boy Advance Cable.172.146.120.113 21:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article already contains the blanket statement "Peripherals can be connected via a set of four GameCube controller ports..." Just64helpin 21:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True enough. It just seems a bit vague not to mention the GBA connectivity just because of the blanket peripheral statement. Look at it from the perspective of a first time gamer reading this article. If you were reading about the Wii for the first time and didn't know there was a GBA-GCN link cable peripheral there is no way you are going to come to the conclusion that the Wii has GBA connectivity just from that one blanket statement (unlike Wii's DS connectivity, which is directly stated).172.146.120.113 21:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Boy Advance 

message: I'd like the following noted in the Reception section, possibly around the "Free Radical Design has stated that the Wii hardware lacks the power necessary to run the software they have scheduled for release on other seventh-generation consoles" section. should mention all of these reception ideas, and the articles linked.
Moreover, the second paragraph of the reception section is very poorly constructed - the statemnets are disjoined and provide little insight or context. The paragraph is also very difficult to read, it is --based on the manner in which this article is "managed"-- overly brief for the purposes of making it obtuse.
#1) The article makes no mention of the huge press response / discussion "Wii is a piece of shit" comment by Spore Developer Chris Hecker @ GDC 2007.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771051p1.html
#2) Futher, this article (http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16099) says "Developers say Wii is Gamecube 1.5" 
#3) Wii apparently lacks modern graphics capabilities (GPU); "The Wii's GPU has fixed functions for vertex, lighting, and pixel operations...the Wii is an older fixed function design where you have lots of operations but the pipelines are not programmable in the sense of downloading shader code to run [on them]." http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/05/08/geek-out-xbox-uber-boss-robbie-bach-takes-a-shot-at-nintendo-s-underpowered-wii-does-he-manage-to-score-a-bulls-eye-or-just-shoot-himself-in-the-foot.aspx
The Wii is widely and frequently criticised for being a marginal improvment over the Gamecube, but this article makes not a mention of this fact. The Reception section should include far more discussion of this. Wageslave 03:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii is not "GameCube 1.5", that is just what some people are calling it. The Wii is part of the 7th Generation of systems, regardless of whether it is as powerful as Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 or not. TJ Spyke 03:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Leapfrog Leapster was released last year, is this also a "7th Generation" machine? Being that the Wii is Gamecube 1.5 + Wiimote, is it correct to suggest that it is in the same technological family as the other 7th Gen machines? Your refusing to see the forest here TJSpyke. The article is misleading in the extreme, information regarding the Wii's position in and current marketplace is being misrepresented. That is why I suggest an expansion of the reception section, to illuminate the situation. Are you intending on supressing or misrepresenting Wii's releationship to its Gamecube roots? As we see in the article I provided, the Developer Kits shipped with the same darn documentation(!) Wageslave 03:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Leapfrog is a childrens toy, not a video game system. What you are saying is like saying those little $1.99 chain games are game systems. You would sound more intelligent if got GameCube and Wii Remote names right. The article is not "misleading" at all, the Wii is a 7th generation system regardless how how much more powerful it is compared to GameCube. I don't want to judge, but your edit history makes you look like you are just anti-Nintendo. You keep saying the Wii isn't a 7th gen system just because it is isn't as powerful as the other two 7th gen systems (although Wii is outselling both in every region of the world and will take over the #1 spot by the end of the year), and the Wii technical problems article you created was 90% filled with general messageboard complaints (what does a "lack of games" have to do with technical problems?) Seems like you just have a beef with the Wii in general. TJ Spyke 04:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Looks good. We can certainly use a site that requires registration as a source, just as we can use a book or newspaper article that isn't online. --Maxamegalon2000 22:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Insomniac Games is owned by Sony (or second party, I forgot which), of coarse he's going to put down the competition. PS3 has never outsold the Wii and just dropped belowe 100K for the month in America/10K last week in Japan (for comparison, the the PS2 has only dropped below 10K in Japan twice in the last 7 years, both when the PS2 was suffering a worldwide shortage in November 2000). In short, he is not an unbiased source. Should we put Reggie's comments on the competition into their articles? I don't think so either. TJ Spyke 00:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great minds think alike, so I agree with you TJ. magiciandude 14:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions to Reception 

message: I would like to know if anyone has had a problem with their child who has asthma playing the WII. My 6 year old wants a WII system but we are a little afraid it may affect his asthma. We pretty much have it under control and don't know it this could trigger an attack or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.10.1 (talk • contribs) 
:As long as he doesn't flail his arms around he should be fine. Not many Wii games should need a kid to exert himself to that degree.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't a messageboard, but I won't remove the edit. Just remember that you don't have to "wail" the controller. You can technically just do a little flick of you wrist to do most actions of the controller. Even games like WarioWare: Smooth Moves shouldn't be a problem. TJ Spyke 03:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text: For future reference, talk pages are for discussing the article, not its subject.  But yeah, the commercials pretty much universally exaggerate the physical action associated with normal gameplay.  While an excited player may be more enthusiastic in their gestures, there's really no need in most games to do more than a PC game with a keyboard and mouse would require.  --Maxamegalon2000 03:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kids with asthma 

message: I think there should be a link to the Wii coverage at xLeague.tv as it has coverage from the United Kingdom launch of the Wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryoga3099 (talk • contribs) 
:This is something that should be discussed at Wii launch, it doesn't belong in the main Wii article. TJ Spyke 17:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it shouldn't be in the Wii article. It is already in the Wii launch article.  Just64helpin 17:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

text: If it's in Spanish, it belongs on the Spanish Wikipedia, not here. Tim (Xevious) 12:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggestion to include http://www.wiichat.com in the unofficial Wii websites, being the largest unofficial community for Wii. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.3.13.179 (talk) 14:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Read WP:EL or the section we have. External links are allowed, but they have to be discussed BEFORE adding them. Your "inlcude my fanboy links or remove them all" attitude will not be tolerated. It doesn't matter what you think about the section, we go by consensus. IF there is a consensus that you links should be included, then (and ONLY then) will they be allowed. TJ Spyke 00:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: No, but I followe WP rules, which you are violating by spamming the page. I suggest you stop before you get blocked. TJ Spyke 01:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: You do releaized you just warned yourself? You are the one adding spam links (the external links already on the page have been discussed here before and consenus was yo include them, check the archives). You have recieved your final spam warning (the first level warning clearly says do NOT put the link back in without consensus). The next time you put the spam links back in you WILL be blocked. TJ Spyke 01:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's very clearly not threatening you, he's telling you what will happen if you continue to violate WP policy. Once again, you've failed to gain consensus on your links, which should be the first thing you do, especially after you're warned. You are quite clearly the one violating WP policy here. Please do not do it again. Also, see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS -- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  01:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I also endorse TJ Spyke's position, and recommend that Alfiboy read the discussions about this in the archives.  This article actually has one of the more thorough and consistent means of determining consensus on external links that I've seen.  --Maxamegalon2000 02:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii external links 

message: I have a Wii and I thought I already knew everything about it, but does anyone know how to find a 16 digit Wii number? I'm guessing that's like your friend code, but I don't yet have any games that have given me one. I wanted to know if there's a way to find it so I could register at this site: http://www.mapwii.com/wii-number/index.cfm
Which by the way, anyone else with a Wii should register too.Link's Awakening 06:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii console friend code can be found in the address book, which is accessed from the message board of the Wii Menu. Just64helpin 09:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would just like to point out that this info is included in the instruction manual that comes with the Wii. Lrrr IV 22:08, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a Wii and I couldn't figure out the friend code thing, either, so don't feel like you're the only one.  Useight 16:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finding your Wii number??? 

message: As another bit of info to add to this article, the accelerometer chips (MEMS) are produced by ST Microelectronics. The press release for this is here.
Einonm 17:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be better suited for the Wii Remote article, if it isn't already there. Just64helpin 17:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As a note, ST makes the Nunchuk accelerometer, Analog Devices makes the one for the Wii Remote. The press release is ambiguous, and is not specific about the matter. Dancter 22:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiimote accelerometers produced by ST Microelectronics 

message: Nowhere in the article does it state that up to 4 wiimotes can connect at once. Isnt that an important bit of information? Should something be added? Laptopdude 22:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, it's a long article.  Useight 16:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Wiimotes 

message: I was wondering if the following can be done: Suppose I am a potential customer living in Europe (I in fact am) but for one reason or the other (elitism, cultural background,etc) prefer to play my games in Japanese and decide to purchase a Japanese console.
Would I be able to access the internet and purchase old games using my europe-based internet connection?
I think that's useful information you could add to the article. -- Ishikawa Minoru 13:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regional lockout is mentioned in the "Software library" section, but could use more detail. Just64helpin 14:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could still access the internet, but the VC is locked to the system. If you have a Japanese Wii, you will only be able to buy games from the Japanese Virtual Console (which means you would also need a Japanese credit card or Japanese VC points cards as well). TJ Spyke 20:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I see. It's useless then, I suppose. -- Ishikawa Minoru 22:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet access 

message: I noticed that the Reception section has much more negative points than positive points, and runs contrary to how the general public is receiving it. I feel that it is biased against the Wii. Certain positive opinions of the Wii should be better represented on the article, otherwise there may be undue weight.--Kylohk 11:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are free to expand the section with sourced content. Just64helpin 11:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added an interview of Ubisoft with the German magazine Spiegel, where they apologized for the bad quality of their early titles.--Kylohk 12:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope you are kidding. There doesn't need to be an exact amount. TJ Spyke 01:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't need to be every single response. Besides, if a negative thing is added there will be another (of the MANY out there) positive thing. Almost everything said about the Wii has been positive, so it makes sense that there should be more positive stuff in the article. Most of the negative stuff has come from graphics whores who think graphics are more important than gameplay (like Factor 5). A comment about "two anonymous" people doesn't really add anything to the article. TJ Spyke 01:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I've read your profile and you seem to prefer Nintendo's systems over Sony's or Microsoft's. The fact that the Wii is a Gamecube 1.5 is important. Now I own a Wii and I think it's a great system, but I think it needs to be clear the only next-gen thing about it is the controller. Besides it wasn't from two nobody's it was form publishers who make games for the consolesStarwarsrulez 01:24, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It is a next gen system, period. Just because it's graphics aren't as advanced doesn't change that. Your edit didn't add anything relevant to the article. 2 anonymous people say it isn't flexible? How does that add anything to the article? If I wanted to, I could add dozens of sources that make it clear that the Wii is whooping the PS3 and Xbox 360 everywhere in the world, but I haven't. TJ Spyke 01:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It says that in the sells. IT"S PUBLISHERS THAT SAID THAT NOT TWO RANDOM PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREET! Starwarsrulez 01:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You still haven't said what it adds to the article (hint:nothing). Why should the comment be included in the article when it adds nothing? It seems like you just wanted to find something negative about the Wii. Fine, I will just find more positive things (which won't be hard because almost everybody is saying something positive). Also, there are already more negative points than positive points in the article, so how can you claim with a straight face that the article is bias towards the Wii? TJ Spyke 01:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are random people though. People aren't always who or what they claim to be, wikipedia knows this well. There are plenty of people who DO know what they're talking about who HAVE spoken out publicly, put their name on the line, those people are sources, two random "developers" (for all we know, two kids making flash games) are not -- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  01:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there doesn't need to be an exact same amount of positive and negative points, and most of the positive points are just listing awards the system has won and one is Ubisoft apologizing for most of their early Wii games being crap (hardly a "positive" point). TJ Spyke 01:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know what you've got against the Wii, but please stop removing sourced and relevant content from the article without discussing it enough to gain consensus. I've got half a mind here to report you for 3RR or WP:POINT, please don't bring it to that -- Phoeba WrightOBJECTION!  01:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just reporting him myself, but somebody already beat me to do it. 5 reverts in the last 2 hours, easy violation. TJ Spyke 01:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I changed the wording to reflect this. Just64helpin 17:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception section: Slanted? 

message: In a paragraph 4 here is a phrase "Retail copies of Wii games are supplied on DVD-like optical discs, which have a capacity of 8.5 Gigabytes". Actually the disc capacity is a 4.3 Gigabytes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.211.80.253 (talk • contribs) 
:Do you have a source for that? Just64helpin 14:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Proof , PleaseLozmaster 14:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't appear to be a source either number, so I am removing the segment. Just64helpin 15:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are stored on DVD discs, dual layer discs have 8.5 Gb, single layeyer have 4.7. Starwarsrulez 16:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not technically stored on DVDs, so the logic doesn't quite work in that respect. Just64helpin 17:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disc capacity

message: Northern Spring ended a few days ago. Does anyone have any updated information of the release date for new Wii colors? -- Bse3 17:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, there is no new information.  However, E3 2007 is coming up (July 11 - 13, I think) and they may announce colors there.  Useight 21:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii is still supply constrained, I don't think anybody (even Nintendo) expected the demand to continue to be so high 7 months after first releasing. TJ Spyke 21:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Wii Colors 

message: I know that Nintendo itself has stated that Wii is only about twice as powerful as GCN (if not less). However I forgot where I saw it. Can anyone help find a source? Nintenboy01 22:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Source for the memory comment? Anyway, I think it is highly inaccurate to say that a game is 45% graphics. a horrible game with beautiful graphics is still a horrible game. A great game with not-so-beautiful graphics is still a great game. Chibi-Robo, for example. I really don't see what you are trying to say. Please clarify your paragraph, as it really does not make sense. LN3000 19:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

text: To get back on topic, Miyamoto's reasoning on graphics is mentioned in the beginning of the "History" section. This can be further expanded with sourced content. Just64helpin 20:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii graphics, power 

message: Nintendo recently launched an official Myspace page for the Wii, found here: http://www.myspace.com/howwiiplay
I think it should be added since it is official. Miles Blues 02:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How can we be sure it's official? I have seen fake MySpace profiles that looked real. Also, we generally don't add MySpace links anyways ("we" as in Wikipedia in general, not just this page). See WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided TJ Spyke 02:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add this link 

message: There are multiple instances on this page where the term "Virtual Console" is used where I feel it would probably be more appropriate to say "Wii Shop Channel". Keeping in mind that the Virtual Console is merely a section of the Wii Shop, having "Virtual Console" listed along side WiiConnect24, Internet Channel, Forecast Channel, Everybody Votes Channel, and the News Channel under "Online connectivity" just doesn't seem appropriate. It seems to me that "Wii Shop Channel" is better fitting for that section. I'd say this also applies to the "Online service" grouping displayed under the main image, and I don't see how "Wii Menu" belongs there either.
--75.24.29.211 14:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper use of "Virtual Console"