Talk:Concordia College and University

message: Judge Michael Kelbley said he felt compelled to set some matters straight, particularly comparisons that were made before the trial between Chief McGuire's bachelor's degree from Concordia College and University and one obtained by a local radio station for John I. Rocko AKA Rocko, Fostoria's police dog.
"This court finds no similarity between those two degrees," the judge said. "McGuire earned his degree," Judge Kelbley said, adding evidence presented during four days of testimony last week".
Yet ANOTHER evidence that this WikiPedia article about a Concordia College and University discusses the wrong Concordia.
The author or slander against Concordia College & University makes them liabled for damages against that School.
Source:
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/NEWS02/705160412
*To be clear, there is no indication that the dog and the chief got a degree from different schools. Indeed, the judge ruled that the chief earned his degree, which he may well have earned it by Concordia standards, via transfered credits and life experience. The rub is that Concordia gave the dog a degree too, showing that Concordia does not verify the legitimancy of life experience. Note that until recently, Concordia promised a 12 hour turnaround on degrees, obviously no background check can be done that quickly. You may well have legitimate life experiences which make you as well quailifed for jobs as someone with a similar degree from a traditional college. It would behoove Concordia to operate more legitimately and openly. For starters, they should change name to something that is not intentionally similar to established colleges. Then they should make sure they actually investigate whether the life experiences submitted by their "students" are real.
*To be clear there is only evidence that the chief and the dog got a degree from different places: It was because of the attention McGuire's degree received that prompted judge Kelbley during the reading of his not guilty decision Tuesday to say the two degrees were not similar. Kelbley said, during the court proceedings and the trial, the two degrees were never tied in together.
** Not similar does not equal from different places. Bcostley 04:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dog 'degree' bears no similarity to degrees awarded by Concordia 

message: Note: refers to the 03:22, 6 May 2007 87.66.119.153 version of the article.
What exactly is the Adult Education Journal? It does not appear to be notable.
Reply by humble me :
It's a printed newspaper, distributed every first week of the month on Montana campuses. That's where I get it from. Sincerely I have no idea if it is 'notable' enough or not, but they have good articles often cited in classes. Lots of stuff about postgraduate programs, about Thomas Edison, Concordia C&U, WG University and other online options. Possibly too local to be 'notable', sure, but they're okay. They provide some viable options for women my age who try to combine jobs, education and (a wish for) children.The editor is Diana Goldenthal, one of our jewish Professors. (Naah, pls don't open a new discussion on religious topics please...!).- Karen. [posted by IPuser 87.66.119.153]
*If the publication is currently distributed and read on U.S. campuses, I find it curious that web searches suggest that "Adult Education Journal" was published from 1942-1950 (see this link) when it was succeeded by Adult Education Quarterly. Equally curious is the fact that I get no Google hits on "Diana Goldenthal," "Diana Goldenthaal",  "Diane Goldenthal",  "Dianne Goldenthaal", or any other variant spelling I have tried.--orlady 12:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Adult Education Journal 

message: * Question Are these really the same entity? What is the evidence? --orlady 20:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger with [[Concordia College & University]]

message: If I understand correctly, degree was actually issued to the person that identified himself as John I. Rocko – not to the dog. Concordia may be a diploma mill but it is possible to enroll to a fully accredited university using a false identity.  According to the 1930 United States Federal Census  a person called John Rocko was a resident of Los Angeles in 1930.--Jordan 777 00:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to my understanding the problem not that the dog enrolled, but that it had done enough work to graduate.  I can not, however, think of any accredited universities that even would allow someone to enroll unless they produced a high school diploma or GED without meeting them in person and testing them.  I guess the other explanation could be someone faked the dog's credentials and did the work for it.  I guess we may find out if they dog ends up in court.------Watercleanerperson 01:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Mad Magazine is certainly more credible than Concordia College and University. It has been in existence for about half a century and it has a long string of publications (including many books) to lend it respected academic stature. --66.102.80.239 12:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  John I. Rocko 

message: The latest edits to this article by AlanSteele are using new (new to me, at least) bogus sources to legitimate them. Today I find http://www.north-american-liberty-party-edu.us/affordableedu.html ("North American Liberty Party", which seems to have entered the accreditation mill business in partnership with National Academy of Higher Education) and http://web.archive.org/web/20060113151052/www.e-technologycenter.com/email.htm ("The e-Real Estate School") listed as sources. I find it ludicrous that someone thinks these would be viewed as indicators of legitimacy, but I will revert the changes rather than let the article contain these absurdities. --Orlady 02:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a little wary about the use of archive.org in this context; it is most often a legitimate and useful tool, but there is a probability that it's being used to hide (in this case) the not-so-minor detail that e-technologycenter.com/email.htm currently says "The Technology Center Institute is no longer associated with  Concordia College and University. If you have not been redirected in the next 30 seconds please click here." This is bordering on silly, the Rhinoceros Party's platform of supporting higher education by building taller schools is more credible than any of the links now being used to legitimise the CC&U scam. --carlb 03:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New bogus "sources" being added to article

message: The website for these people intentionally links to a google search where the wikipedia article won't show up, by including "-entity". For this reason, I have changed the wording in the article to avoid the word entirely. I would not normally mangle a quote as was necessary for this, but I think it's a good cause.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.95.236 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 9 July 2009 
:Hi, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for attempting to improve the article. I disagree with your edit but applaud your good cause. These kind of places can easily change their packaged search to avoid the Wikipedia article. I think that we should focus on producing the most truthful and best Wikipedia article we can. Thank you again and regards, TallMagic (talk) 04:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entity 

message: I see User:Sdstyles wants to make major changes to the article and talk page with little to nothing in the way of edit summaries.  Regarding the changes made to this talk page (which I have reverted), this not how things are done at Wikipedia. Jusdafax   20:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  User:Sdstyles 

message: The web site, concordia-college.net is hosted on 205.178.145.65 and this is malware territory: most notably the home ground of the trojans Koobface and Conficker.  From AFI research results. Dick Holman 01:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: malware

message: EDS mentioned in the article stands for the consulting/services company that was started by Ross Perot and is now part of HP (Hewlett Packard) Zugman (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  EDS 

message: I noted on WP:STiki that an IP editor recently drastically reduced the size of the section that addresses accreditation.  I almost reverted the edit, then I decided to take a look at this talk page, first, as the section was extremely large and the IP user, while removing some important information, did leave a concise explanation.  I would like a discussion to take place here to establish what, precisely, should be included the accreditation section.  It almost looks as though dispute resolution may be needed (see above "discussions").  Input would be greatly appreciated before I make any changes.  --Jackson Peebles (talk) 03:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've already reverted the massive unexplained removal of content. If you look at the article history, you will see that every couple of months an IP (or occasionally a registered user) shows up and deletes most of the article without giving a reason. --Orlady (talk) 04:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Input Sought for Drastic Size Reduction 

message: This article has a long history of users (usually anonymous) attempting to remove derogatory, yet cited, information on this diploma mill. This appears to be happening again. The recent removal of info, which I reverted, has been deleted again. The information in question has been in the article for several years and was cited. I believe consensus was reached years ago that the info was appropriate.Bcostley (talk) 02:52, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Location section changes

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