Talk:Fulanito

message: Can anyone think of an encyclopedic way to point out that their name can be translated as "what's-his-name" and that this combines with the title of their first CD to read "What's-his-name: The most famous man on Earth"? I've always found that very amusing, and non-Spanish speakers wouldn't get it, but I don't want to get into trivia, either. Lawikitejana 03:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of name 

message: It looks like there's multiple editors, each with some connection to the subject, who have been changing the pages. I've reverted back to the version that is best formatted; 's changes broke the infobox and tables, so I've rolled back to the version that is the easiest to read. I don't necessarily think this is the "right" version, just the easiest starting point to discuss from.
I strongly suggest that all editors who want to make changes to the page explain why they want to change it and list the sources that support the changes. If there's consensus, then we'll change. If the edit warring continues, I can enforce the discussion requirement by having the page protected so only administrators can make changes.
I also strongly suggest that all parties to the dispute review Wikipedia guidelines including WP:Reliable sources, WP:Conflict of interest, and WP:Sock puppetry. Abuse of multiple accounts will not be tolerated. —C.Fred (talk) 15:51, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality tag and sorting out the mess 

message: As for the information inserted by the Mr. Rosa, he definitely left crucial information behind. Just compare his to mine.  As much as he's angry and bitter, he would toss up a story that would most definitely benefit him and him alone.
No one has taken anything from him.  Here are the fact:
::1. Yes, both Winston Rosa and Rafael Vargas are co-founders and co-producers of the brand name Fulanito.  It all started as a spin off from their previous project, The 740 Boyz.  
::2. As per the contract you see above, YES, they recorded 3 albums together as a production team, Rafael Vargas was the SOLE lyricist and vocals on 95% of the albums (the rest were added chants done by hired background singers, but written by Rafael)
:::A - El Hombre Mass Famoso De La Tierra (1997)
:::B - EL Padrino (1999)
:::C - Americanizao (2001)
:::Rafael and Winston had ended their partnership at the end of the 3rd album in 2002, Winston was very well aware of separation of partnership, but of course, as so noted here, he was not happy with it.
Rafael then signed a new contract with the same record label to record 3 more albums under the Fulanito name.  Winston was no longer partnered in the new venture.  He was, however, hired as a producer in ONLY 2 songs that were released in the next 2 Fulanito albums.
:::A - La Verdad (2004)
:::B - Vacaneria (2007)
:: Winston submitted 2 songs that were later used in these Fulanito albums ON A WORK FOR HIRE BASIS, where he was well compensated for. The albums were produced by Rafael along with various other producers that submitted tracks for him to record.  Rafael was, once again, the writer and main vocalist of the albums.
::Winston would go on and produce and work with other artists on his own.  He and Rafael still kept in contact throughout the years, But it was obvious that Winston was not conforming.
::In 2007, Jose, "Pickles" Fuentes, better known as El Gordito, left the group to pursue his solo rap career. He too began to work with Winston.  At this point, Winston and Jose began the public battle for the use of Fulanito.  Let's keep in mind, Jose Fuentes was only a hired member, which gives him absolutely NO RIGHT to present himself as the artist Fulanito.  This is where he joined in with Winston.  
They made an attempt at releasing an album under the reformed 740 Boyz along with Daniel Fernandez.  after several single releases that fell on deaf ears, their project was unsuccessful.
This is where they decided to just call themselves Fulanito, to create confusion, gain popularity of their own project by using the name, and mislead the public.
::3. All listed background members, past and present are as follow2s:
:::The ORIGINAL 5
::::Rafael Vargas (Co-FOunder) 1997-PRESENT
::::WInston Rosa (Co-Founder) - 1997-1998
::::Jose "Pickles" Fuentes - 1997-2007
::::Elvin Ovalles 1997-2002
::::Marino Paredes 1997-2002
:::Other members
::::Wellington Belen (1999-2000)
:::: Jesus Martrinez (2003-2006)
::::Daniel Fernandez (2003-2005)
--*** Verdugo27***talk 18:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: *How much of all of that can be corroborated by secondary sources? Have any newspaper stories, magazine articles, or biographies been written about them? Again, we're looking for independent biographies, not blurbs written by the artists or their labels. —C.Fred (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracies 

message: ;;;Fulanito's infobox with more accurate information
--*** Verdugo27***talk 19:05, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fulanito InfoBox 

message: In the recent years, it has become an ongoing battle, initiated by a former member of the group Fulanito.
Winston Rosa, who formed the project along with Rafael Vargas in 1997, has been on a personal crusade to take control of the brand name and claims he was was pushed out of the venture.
He goes under the name 740Boyz on Wiki  and constantly attempts to change the information that pertains to the history of Fulanito by posting misrepresenting images of what he's created as a replica of the group.
It has become quite ridiculous.
Stay tuned
--*** Verdugo27***talk 13:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constant bickering on behalf of co-founder and ex-member of Fulanito