Talk:East Coast Swing

message: The descriptions of the She Goes move and the
He Does move seem to be somewhat ambiguous and maybe contradictory, or at least unclear.
According to the descriptions, in both cases someone is going under the leader's raised hand, so in each cases the person is turning toward the 
leading hand (counter-clockwise for leader, clockwise for follower).  However, one is labeled "inside" but the other is labeled "outside," which seems to be contradictory.
It would help if:
1.  The descriptions specified the direction of the spin (clockwise or the reverse).
2.  The descriptions explicitly mentioned whether the hand was raised straight up or was raised and brought across in front of the follower (or wherever else).
3.  The page explained what "inside" and "outside"
meant.  (What are they based on--the inside and outside of what?)
Daniel B.
: As an answer to the questions: (#1) the follow preforms a basic inside turn and then the lead (on counts five and six) does a counter-clockwise turn under the connected hands... I tried to make that somewhat more clear in the article; (#2) should be fixed, tell me if it's still unclear somewhere; (#3) everyone has a different reason for why they're called inside and outside turns -- some argue that it's because an inside turn results in the follow turning toward you (inside) rather than turning away from you (outside) while others argue that it's based on how the lead leads the move (in an inside turn, the lead brings his hand inside whereas in an outside, the lead brings his hand out and outside of this abstract "box" made by the shoulders of the lead and follow and the two connected hands of the lead and the follow). Utopianheaven 09:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambiguity in She Goes and He Goes descriptions 

message: I have removed the excess capitalisation of words that are not proper names. I hesitate on the page title, however. ECS is a common abbreviation, but does that nedessarily mean that the full name should be capitalised? Should it be "East Coast Swing" or "East Coast swing"? I have seen the latter often, but IMHO I think it should be more correct. // Habj 12:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would weakly disagree, based only on the notion that East Coast Swing (ECS) comes from Eastern Swing (ES)... such that the term 'swing' isn't qualifying East Coast as a type of swing dance but part of the actual title of the dance (which just happens to be the type of dance it is). Just my two cents. :) Utopianheaven 09:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page title 

message: Unless someone objects, I'm going to send the how-to sections of this article to Wikibooks.  My current plan is to leave most of the lead here on Wikipedia (which is fine, it just needs some sources), and move most of the "moves" text into the b:Swing Dancing/East Coast Swing, easily accessible from the See Also section.  The remaining article will probably be a stub, and will probably need some help in recovery.  Please let me know if you think those sections are necessary to the integrity of the article (and can provide suitable references), or if you feel this is inappopriate.--Will.i.am 21:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to keep a short list of steps, essentially what was here before the October rewrite.  I'm hoping someone will transwiki the how-to sections because I don't want to just erase it.  But it's become too verbose to add anything to it.  ( I came here to add something to the double-time basic but it's full of counts and calls that I'm unfamiliar with.  I wanted to say that in the double swing the lead spends more time on his left foot than on the right, so that it might be counted slow-slow, quick-quick, rock-step.  I also think the "footwork" section should be renamed "Basic Step" and be put at the beginning of the steps.  It should just say what the steps are for the basic, and simply mention that there is similar timing for the other moves ) Squidfryerchef 06:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops, sorry.  I had transwikied the article and then never got around to removing the how-to section from the wikipedia article.  I left a short description of the basic (if I got that suggestion right from your comment), but do feel that it too should have a reference (got a dance book or anything?).  Please put things back in that I accidentally removed if you want them, but a very ambitious (and appreciated) user has been doing a lot on East Coast Swing in Wikibooks where the material was transwikied to, and where any step-by-step breakdown probably should be.--Will.i.am 13:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I wont feel bad for yanking large chunks of the article if I get around to working in it.  I'm going for a very short list of steps like in the articles on Salsa or Argentine Tango.  There won't be any talk about which foot goes where, just some explanation on what's what. Squidfryerchef 05:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transwiki 

message: I don't like the format that the page currently has, especially with step, step (my biggest pet peeve of an instructor). Will it the order matter whether I list the Rock Step first or last when I decide to make changes?
MMetro (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revision

message: I was bold today. I added four external references that make the article verifiable, and corrected the article based on these references. Jazzdanse (talk) 18:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisions: 22-March 2008

message: The statement Ballroom dancers and instructors often mistakenly believe that East Coast Swing evolved from Foxtrot is at best counter-intuitive, and it is not supported by the reference attached to it.  (The referenced document does not mention foxtrot at all.)  It appears that the sole purpose of this statement is to belittle ballroom dancers.  It should be removed.
Dave Cornutt (talk) 02:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Revision

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