Talk:The Scotsman

message: Removed: "While more than every London-based title put together" How does 80,000 issues compare to the London papers?  lots of issues  | leave me a message 13:31, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'm not sure that the recent change to an untidy and unnecessarily linked "no political allegiance" is for the best. While there was seemingly nothing wrong with centre-right, could we not discuss whether that ought to have been changed? For all I know stances may have changed since the sale of the paper which may have seen a slightly more liberal line in editorial opinion, however I can not make any claims. If any change has occurred due to this, I doubt it would amount to "no political allegiance"... 86.135.171.89 20:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does "rabid anti-SNP drivel" count as an allegiance?  Shame there won't be a usable source with that description... - TG  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.84.18 (talk) 21:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Allegiance 

message: Short extract from Times article:
Mike Wade Published at 12:01AM, April 13 2012 Devastated staff at Scotsman newspapers walked out in disgust yesterday after the shock dismissal of John McLellan, the group’s Editor-in-Chief. The latest victim of a cull of senior management by Johnston Press, Britain’s second largest newspaper publisher, Mr McLellan’s treatment was described as “utterly disgusting, demoralising and demeaning” by one senior journalist. The Scotsman, which sold more than 90,000 copies a day 20 years ago, had an estimated sale of 30,000 on Easter Monday, a decline that mirrors the fate of many regional titles. “This role (Editor-in-Chief) which has overall editorial responsibility for The Scotsman, The Edinburgh Evening News and Scotland on Sunday, will cease to exist,” said Mr Richardson, a former McVities manager, responsible for HobNobs and Ginger Nuts. “The editors of each title will report directly to the managing director of the Scottish Publishing Unit.” The memo added that Angus Morrison, the managing director of Angus Country Press has also left his post. The announcement over the company’s intranet was greeted with shock by journalists. Mr McLellan is a substantial figure in the newspaper industry, and sits on the Press Complaints Commission. As editor of The Scotsman, and overseeing the publication of both Scotland on Sunday and The Edinburgh Evening News, he was an important part of Johnston Press Scotland. Until 9am yesterday.
--Mais oui! (talk) 04:34, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Magnus Linklater, the former editor, is questioning whether the title can now survive. Also seems to be a move of features and magazine production to England. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Times: "Scotsman staff condemn ‘disgusting’ treatment as Editor-in-Chief is sacked" 

message: OK - I know I'm stepping into a viper's nest here, but I'm going to tackle the multiple uses of the word "Unionist" which have been added to the article by an anonymous user.  There are a couple of problems with this, which might not be apparent especially to readers outside Scotland:
* The word "Unionist" is a loaded and confusing one in Scotland.  Those who are in favour of independence will often describe their opponents as Unionist, but those who are against independence do not always self-identify in those terms.  A more NPOV term would be "pro-union", or "against independence".  Citation: 
* Although the majority of people probably would agree that the Scotsman is against independence, its official position is that it hasn't decided yet.  Citation:  (final section).
If the article is going to make these statements, then they need to be rigorously supported by citations from neutral sources (so not, for example, websites which campaign for indepdendence).
For the time being I'm going to add some tags to the article, to give the person who added these words an opportunity to add citations. Mortonhall (talk) 10:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Unionist" 

message: The article says that the paper has an audited circulation of 28,500, but the link to the source clearly says this is just an industry analysis and not the ABC figure 195.59.102.211 (talk) 20:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  accuracy 

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