Talk:Rick and Bubba

message: I've rewritten the article to take care of the copyvio problem.  I'd like some input on if this is adequate.  --Ichabod 01:09, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewritten

message: Please explain why Rick's son's death is relevant to this article. As sad as it is, this article is about the duo of Rick & Bubba and their radio show, and Bronner's death just isn't relevant to the content. If Rick had died, yes. Rick's son, no. I'm not trying to be insensitive to the situation. It's a sad day for that family and all R&B's fans and I sympathize with them, but as far as Wikipedia is concerned, this isn't encyclopedic, in my opinion.--Zpb52 (talk) 21:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the event's inclusion is warranted because 1) a large part of their show is given to discussing their families, and 2) since "Rick Burgess" redirects here, this article is a de facto biography for Burgess. Bronner's death will have a significant impact on the show for quite some time. Frankly, I'm in favor of separate bio articles for Burgess and Bussey, but I believe that issue has already been decided some time ago. Barring that, a mention of the tragedy is warranted.
OK, folks, what's your opinion? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of Rick's son 

message: Hey. Sorry, but I don't think it should be included on the page. If Bronner was notable in his own right, it would be one thing, but the fact is that it's too peripheral to necessitate its own section. One sentence under the History section might be okay, but only if it has information on why it's notable to their radio show. Remember that not everything that happens belongs on Wikipedia. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: I'll start off by saying, I'm a noob at editing here, and I'm a huge fan of the show.  I think Bronner's death *is* important to the show's history section, as it's definitely changing the timbre and atmosphere of the show, and certainly for the immediate future.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be, once Rick returns to the show, to add, under the "History" section or a "Significant Events" section, a line such as "Rick took an extended leave of absence from the show from January 21, 2008 to (Return Date) to mourn the accidental drowning death of his youngest son, Bronner," then link/reference this to Rick's Bio page, where there would obviously be a more thorough description of this tragedy. MHaz1701 (talk) 03:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: FWIW, From another fan

message: I propose this article be split into three separate and distinct articles:
*Rick Burgess
*Bill "Bubba" Bussey
*The Rick and Bubba Show (from which "Rick and Bubba" will redirect)
We can include all the biographical info on each host, and create a page which is all about the show.
It would also, in effect, provide a compromise for the info about Bronner's drowning. That information would be accepted on Rick Burgess' bio page. --Zpb52 (talk) 17:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are both of them notable on their own? Would those two pages be able to exist without turning into fan pages? If we are to follow this proposal, I wouldn't do a redirect; I'd do a move. Much cleaner that way. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 17:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At this point, I would say yes. Rick Burgess is on the Christian speaking circuit, and maintains a separate weekend career doing stuff like that. Bill Bussey is venturing into his own things as well. They are a team, but they are notable in their own rights, in my opinion.--Zpb52 (talk) 17:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split into three articles 

message: *Vote For Split: Reasons mentioned above. --Zpb52 (talk) 17:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Votes For

message: *Keep as one: Neither of them are significant without the other. --Ichabod (talk) 02:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Votes Against

message: * Split if someone adds more bio As stated above, there isn't much bio info but if the pages are split, there needs to be alot more bio. but splitting would make the pages alot clearer. there are too many subjects for this page. Googolme (talk) 15:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutral Votes

message: The tag has been in place for over two years with no action, so I have removed it. An article on one or other or both of the people can be created by doing some research and building up the relevant sections within this article. When there is enough verifiable material, new articles can be created per WP:Summary style. At present there is not enough sourced material to create an article so a split cannot be done (which is likely why nobody has done it so far). When enough material has been created in this article the split can be done - though if people need assistance, a new Split tag with a new date can be placed on the article. SilkTork *YES! 17:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tag removed