Talk:List of New Testament papyri

message: The Wiki article is on the much more famous Egyptian Museum of Turin. That is why I didn't give a link. It also explains why I translated into English. It is more clear that it is a generic name -- Egyptian Museum, which exist in several cities in Italy. As it stands in Italian, it would appear to some readers that it refers to the Museo Egizio, which is not quite right. In fact, I couldn't be sure from my googling if the Papyrological Institute in Florence is actually a separate entity to the Egyptian Museum in that city. The two were refered to in close proximity, appearing almost synonymous in a couple of sites I checked.
I'll repeat my main argument for translating names of foreign institutions, once more. We are bound to be inconsistant if we don't translate, because we do not use the Arabic for the Egyptian Museum in Cairo (where Egyptian has a different meaning too, of course). We would run into serious transliteration issues with Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic etc., because there are no cannonical transliteration systems. Certainly there are multiple, widely used systems. Even the Egyptian Museum in Berlin is already not given in German, though we could render it more easily in ASCII. This is English language Wiki. It is not NA27, which is written for a universal audience. The "other languages" feature of Wiki is probably the place to use our knowledge of the autonyms of foreign institutions.
Love to hear your thoughts. Alastair Haines 02:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Update. I just found the Italian Wiki article on the Egyptian Museum in Florence. If I've understood it correctly, the Papyrological Institute is indeed a sub-branch of the museum. It specializes in Coptic art and documents. I've linked to this Italian article, simply translating it into English would create a stub at English Wiki, which we could then link to from this table. I'll do that soon enough, unless you beat me to it, and be my guest in doing that! :) Alastair Haines 03:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Museo Egizio

message: What do editors think of the Distribution chart at the bottom? Do the parenthetical numbers work, or would it have been better to create a third column for the early numbers?-Andrew c 17:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above post is referring to this version. The current version is another option. After spending the time to make the table look 'prettier', I think the improvement in look is minimal, and the addition of the extra code is detrimental to readability in the edit window (assuming another editor wants to come along and update the table and isn't familiar with coding).-Andrew c 18:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the newer version, the parentheses interupt the smooth look of the alternative text. It's a great table to give a neat summary of the data. It raises questions for my mathematical mind -- Luke and Acts are 28 chapters long. Colossians and Philippians only 4 chapters long. If all books were copied at the same rate and decayed at the same rate, what would the percentages look like? But the data you've gathered mean I can do those calculations on a spreadsheet. Your table provides verifiable information, which suggests trajectories for further thinking, without indulging in speculation. Thanks Andrew, it might also stimulate someone to research a little regarding popularity of particular New Testament books -- dates of inclusion in the canon, earliest dates of quotation in church fathers, ... John's gospel seems to have been fairly popular. I wonder why? ;) Cheers Alastair Haines 12:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distribution based on content 

message: * p119	Oxyrhynchus 4803, John 1:21-28.33-44; 3th century, Oxford. 
* p120	Oxyrhynchus 4804, John 1:25-28.33-38.42-44; 4th century, Oxford. 
* p121	Oxyrhynchus 4805, John 19:17-18.25-26; 3th century, Oxford. 
* p122	Oxyrhynchus 4806, John 21:11-14.22-24; 4/5th century, Oxford.
It is time to complete List of NT papyri.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leszek Jańczuk Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding up to P124. Thanks for the heads up.-Andrew c [talk] 15:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New papyri 

message: This is great stuff! - Ret.Prof (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Work 

message: Seeing as Unicode has a 𝔓 character, and Biblical studies is certainly an area where Unicode support is required for polytonic diacritics, why use an image for the blackletter P when we could use 𝔓 instead?--Akhenaten0 (talk) 17:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. What do people think about changing this? I might change it in all articles. --BurritoBazooka (talk) 23:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicode for Papyrus Blackletter P 

message: There is a lot of great information here, and I'd like to first thank the contributors for their hard work. But I do have a comment about the choice of the colors "beige" and "pink" to distinguish entries. As I assume you don't realize, about six percent of men are red-green colorblind and have difficulty distinguishing shades of these colors.  As in happens, both of the colors chosen here look almost identical to me.  Would it be possible for someone who is a little more Wiki-savvy than I am to choose a different color scheme here?
Thanks so much! 
(And although I am the only one to note this, with over 6 billion people on this planet there are millions of colorbind men who will benefit from a simple change like this)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.204.86 (talk) 18:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Choice of colors? 

message: Nowhere is the meaning of the † symbol explained. Presumably it carries meaning. Someone who knows might like to add a clarification. JohnHarris (talk) 09:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table † symbol 

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message: The references for the various papyri--for example Papyrus 44 (Matthew 17:1-3, 6-7, 18:15-17, 19, 25:8-10; John 10:8-14)--uses a different format (comma separates verse and chapters) than the one on their respective Wiki pages (dot separates different verses of same chapter, semicolon separate chapters).
Aaronshenhao (talk) 07:43, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference formatting consistency 

message: would P.Yale 1 inv. 419 make it to this list? FuzzyMagma (talk) 08:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible update 

message: I don't think there's any value in having the papyri broken into three tables like this. It makes the table less useful. I plan to combine them into a single table, so I'm inviting comment.Ordinary Person (talk) 05:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just make a single table