Talk:Niki Sanders

message: I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH (review me)(help me) 13:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we still need the Alternate Future sections? 

message: An anon edit brought up a good point: is Jessica Nikki's twin or just a sister? I don't know if it's ever addressed in the show so I think it's just a sister. If I'm wrong please let me know. padillaH (review me)(help me) 13:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think she's a twin either, I don't remember them ever saying she was.  It's in the main article, also, though. If it was mentioned, what episode and where was it mentioned that they were twins?~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 13:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find anywhere where it says that they are twins, so I'm removing the mention of it, unless someone has a reference. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 13:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, there's nothing to say that if Niki is a clone that she's a duplicate like Multiple Man is.  There's nothing to say that she's a clone. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 22:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Jessica a twin? 

message: Can we ascertain that Tracy was surprized by what she had done to the reporter? She looked pretty well freaked out. Also, are we discussing Tracy here or have we created a new article? padillaH (review me)(help me) 04:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Tracy surprised at what she could do? 

message: She didn't freeze the reporter, she transmuted him into ice. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is the reference for this distinction? ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 09:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Looked like freezing to me. He didn't turn transparent or anything. Wanderer32 (talk) 10:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If she just froze him, the fragments of his shattered corpse would not have been white and would not have melted into something clear. I don't have any reference other than the episode itself. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 00:04, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you not see the blood when he shattered? Anonymous  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.172.194 (talk) 01:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I didn't, the shards on the ground were nearly white, so I assumed the dark parts seen while he was falling apart were supposed to be shadows. However found some screenshots on heroeswiki.com, in this one the shards do look a bit pinkish, and in this one, the dark parts are clearly not shadows. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The white frost on the fragments and the water on the ground could very well be due to condensation of the water vapor in the air. Wanderer32 (talk) 10:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracy's power 

message: While I think Tracy will be important enough eventually, I don't think she's got enough history yet. Let's put her in the List of Heroes characters with special abilities and build until we get an articles worth of content. Padillah (talk) 12:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But she's still a regular. - Jasonbres (talk) 14:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The actress is a regular.  The character (at least in this type of show) doesn't have to be. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 15:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

text: This is about the character, not the actor. I've no doubt about Ali Larter staying on the show, I don't think we have enough information about the character Tracy Strauss to justify a full article... yet. Padillah (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Padillah is right. - Josh (talk | contribs) 23:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree - it's not appropriate for her to be on Niki's page as it stands, and that since Niki is dead it's unlikely she'll make a comeback. It certainly looks like Ali Larter will be playing Tracy (and Barbara) for the forseeable future. I personally we should restructure the page for the triplets rather than just Niki but there's there is no rush--WORM |  MЯOW 11:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm gonna do this in 24 hours. - Josh (talk | contribs) 16:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit Break

message: Over at List of Heroes characters with special abilities there is a discussion of whether the German is related to Niki/Tracy or not. Please discuss. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 12:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She isn't. - Jasonbres (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Really? Cause so far it looks like the best you've got is a quick glimpse of a picture. With all the proof they have on the origins of Peters acquired abilities that can't get consensus and you think a little picture is gonna be acceptable? Padillah (talk) 12:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Retracted for reasons on other talk page. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niki/Tracy & the German discussion 

message: There is a book titled Barcode tattoo and it is about this woman who was cloned 6 times and each time the clone was injected with a formula that gave each a special ability. I think that could have something to do with whats going on. I think that formula that gives powers was tested on clones of a past figure that resembeled Tracy/Niki/Jessica  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.245.248 (talk) 00:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hypothetically possible that the book was among the inspirations for Heroes, but this type of speculation doesn't belong in the article unless it's verified by a reliable source such as an interview or commentary track. See Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability for more details. Wikipedia isn't the place to discuss fan theories either, see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 23:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, that's what he was on about. Thanks for that Gordon. Sorry, anon 71. Padillah (talk) 11:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barcode Tattoo 

message: Considering Dr. Zimmerman says he created "Niki, Barbara and Tracy", does that mean Jessica wasn't real? Looking back at episodes, it could well be that Jessica was a false identity Niki used to protect herself (by making "Jessica" the victim, Niki could forget it ever happened). I can't remember ever seeing any proof Jessica existed other than by what Niki said. Jacobshaven3 (talk) 20:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: DL knew of Jessica, and they showed her grave in "Six Months Ago". Ophois (talk) 20:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The key is that Jessica was not Niki's twin sister; many viewers, myself included, just assumed that she was.  Jessica was the daughter (biological or adopted, we don't know) of Niki's adoptive parents, and has nothing to do with Niki, Barbara, and Tracy being identical triplets.  --DavidK93 (talk) 19:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Jessica ever real? 

message: In my opinion, the section containing the list of Jessica's murders has become pointless and should be removed. Her murders aren't that important on the show, and the information can be found within the biography section. Ophois (talk) 07:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that.--Whadaheck (talk) 14:37, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I "third" it Padillah (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Jessica's murders? 

message: Shouldn't we move the article to Niki Sanders & Tracy Strauss or Niki, Tracy & Barbara or something like that at least, to reflect the actual content?--Whadaheck (talk) 22:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The biggest problem with moving it right now is any more we make would be speculation. What would you move it to? Niki, Tracy & Barbra? Barbra who? What's Tracy's real last name? Or is Niki the one with the different last name? What's Barbra's power? Is Barbra still alive? But without Barbra we'd just have to move it again when we find out these things. I say wait until Tracy has enough episodes to warrant her own article, close the Niki article and start the one on Tracy. If Barbra comes along we'll see where she fits in. Padillah (talk) 12:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Lost has a page called Nikki and Paulo, so that wouldn't be a first. Plus Tracy Strauss is her real name, she was adopted like Niki. To me Niki, Tracy & Barbara works just fine.--Whadaheck (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did you see that Strauss is her real last name? We know that Niki was adopted, how do we know Tracy wasn't? I just think it's a little too quick to start making too many changes. Padillah (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well even if she was adopted by Mr & Mrs Strauss, that makes Strauss her real name, right? And I don't see what's bad about a title like Niki, Tracy & Barbara. Several series have characters pages for character's who last names are not even known, several real-life twins/triplets/whatever share the same page, and so on...--Whadaheck (talk) 20:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Niki, Tracy, and Barbara are not notable as a group. There has been only one scene that included more than one of them, and only one of them was alive. Notice that this entire article is separated into different sections for each character. - Josh (talk | contribs) 23:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know, I made the sections. But to me the title of the article should reflect its content.--Whadaheck (talk) 16:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but the content should not have been about three mainly unrelated characters in the first place. - Josh (talk | contribs) 21:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving the article 

message: The article simply says "Niki was shown to be dead" in season 3.  It would be nice if someone could provide at least a little bit of detail as to how she died. 204.97.183.31 (talk) 18:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as the last part of the previous section mentions that she is caught in an exploding building, it is pretty self-explanatory. Ophois (talk) 18:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niki's death 

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