Template talk:Africa topic

message: It appears illogical to show Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic and Western Sahara separately in the template, as they are one and the same territory. I suggest that it is shown once (say, as Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic) with a footnote referring to the other name. Davshul (talk) 09:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How are these two the same? I'm sure you're aware that Western Sahara is claimed and divided by two states, the SADR included. But to synonymise it with SADR alone would be to ignore Morocco's perspective. In any case, it is classified as a "disputed territory" by the United Nations, and many articles will link to "... of Western Sahara". Nightw 12:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Western Sahara is exactly the same as the Territory claimed by the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. However, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic does only control part of the territory it claims. The rest of Western Sahara is controlled by Morocco. I therefore agree with Night w that these are not the same because a territory is not the same as an entity that claims this territory. -- 79.238.172.45 (talk) 05:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, Western Sahara is the same as the territory claimed by the Sahrawi Arab DEmocratic Republic. BUT: (Anybody, please correct me if I'm wrong) Afair, the Sawrabi Democratic Republic does not control all of the territory it claims. Part of Western Sahara is controlled by Morocco. In addition to that, Western Sahara is a territory while SADR is a (non-recognized) country which is not the same. Of course, I don't see a fundamental problem with combing a country and its territory into one article, however in case of disputed territories, there may be cases where this doesn't make sense. By the way, you wouldn't consider West Germany (as it existed in the cold war, before it recognized the East) the same as Germany because it claimed all of Germany, would you? -- Dynam1te3 (talk) 04:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Compare People's Republic of China and Republic of China: these are two governments which claim the same territory, but they require separate entries for many topics (see Template:Asia topic).  In this case, some articles can just be redirects, e.g., Wildlife of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic and Wildlife of Western Sahara.  But Politics of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic is different from Politics of Western Sahara. Goustien (talk) 22:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic/Western Sahara 

message: A centralised proposal regarding the use of superscript notes in navigation boxes is under discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. The disussion will affect this template. Nightw 12:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for topic templates 

message: In the Template, I have split the British territory of Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha into its three constituent island parts of Saint Helena, Ascension Island and Tristan da Cunha, as most articles appear to refer to these islands separately. However, it may also be preferable to format the template so that it also catches references to the complete territory. Davshul (talk) 13:10, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally would have preferred it to stay as the original, as that is the political unit. I'm surprised that most articles refer to it separately, could you show evidence? Another solution would be to cover any nonexistent pages with a disambiguation to each of the island's pages. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 13:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you view the category tree of :Category:Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, you will find only seven artcles listed for the territory as a whole, with an estimated couple of hundred articles listed under the specific islands. Davshul (talk) 14:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, I dislike that situation, but c'est la vie. In that case it seems more pragmatic to have the islands as you have done, perhaps with redirects in the opposite direction. I can't think of a way to have both the islands and the unit though, so picking one I suppose we have to use islands. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: One could use the same formula as used for the United Kingdom and its constsituent parts in the Europe topic template, but I personally believe that that would be over-kill having regards to the relative size of this territory. Davshul (talk) 14:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In a perfect world, the combined articles would be more developed. As it stands, maybe just a clarifying footnote. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 15:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I think that whether these islands should be combined into one link or not should depend on the particular topic in question. For instance, Saint Helena and Tristan da Cunha share one dialling system and one country code while Ascension island has its own system. For this reason, it would make sense to link to Telephone numbers in Saint Helena and Telephone numbers in Ascension but not to Telephone numbers in Tristan da Cunha which redirects to Telephone numbers in Saint Helena. -- 79.238.166.39 (talk) 00:53, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that it is possible to make this template show different content depending on a parameter. We could call the parameter SAT; SAT=ST would create one link for Saint Helena and Tristan da Cunha and a second one for Ascension island; SAT=SAT would result in one link for the 3 islands as a whole, SAT=seperate would cause 3 seperate links etc. -- 79.238.172.45 (talk) 05:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: done. -- Dynam1te3 (talk) 03:20, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the hack that I made. The template will now no longer use the parameter; It will show different links depending on the prefix or suffix used. This means that we have to hard-code which articles are seperate and which ones are combined inside the template. To me, this seems much better than duplicating this information in all TOPIC in COUNTRY articles. -- Dynam1te3 (talk) 04:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha 

message: When will Southern Sudan be added to the template? It is clear it will win independence and should now at least be in the same category as dependencies, I think.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.61.234.225 (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It will win independence, but until then it remains part of Sudan, not a dependency. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 08:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. Outback the koala (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but it could be considered an "other territory" just like Western Sahara, which is also not a dependency but according to Marocco is a part of Marocco. People will probably want to search information about Southern Sudan through this template before its acctual independence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.61.234.225 (talk) 16:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As many articles could not be created till independence, Foreign relations of Southern Sudan, etc., having it in the template would serve little purpose. The final name of the country still isn't known. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 17:39, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's South Sudan and someone recently added it. Country code is +211. 80.42.232.212 (talk) 19:35, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Sudan 

message: change capital of libya from redirecting to tripoli to give two options: 1 for capital of TNC and one of Great Arab...
68.38.143.81 (talk) 02:27, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The redirect is in place at Capital of Libya which is not semi-protected.  However, our article on the TNC states that they are moving to Tripoli, regarding that as the national capital, so the redirect is still valid. Warofdreams talk 12:06, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 68.38.143.81, 2 September 2011 

message: This is a minor point but I can't change it myself because of the template protection- on the Economy of Africa template under Dependencies and other territories there is a link to Economy of Ascension Island. Information on the economy can already be seen on the Ascension Island page, and given the relatively small population I would suggest that this link be changed to a section link: Ascension Island. I noticed this from the most wanted articles page, and there are also red links to climate and demographics which i am sure could be resolved in much the same way. Thanks, --Cutiekatie (talk) 16:16, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is solved by creating redirects, which I've now done for Economy, Climate, and Demographics. The template can not be edited to tailor to each individual instance, but the redirect mean readers end up at appropriate places, and also mean that if a main article is later created for the subject readers will automatically be sent there. If you see any more of these situations, just make the redirect. Regards, CMD (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ascension island 

message: Just curious about the reversal of my edit. Did it result in any mus-categorization? -- 签名 sig at  12:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This template is used for a wide variety of topics, from politics to literature to public holidays. Placing a specific category on it will result in all uses appearing under that category. CMD (talk) 01:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Did it actually happen? The code around the category should have prevented it. -- 签名 sig at  06:21, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't sure what was happening, as the articles didn't appear to me at :Category:Lists of public holidays by region, so I reverted out of caution. They still don't appear for me. Are they there for you? (I have Niger but it appears to be actually written in that article) CMD (talk) 07:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No yet. It can take time to update. Someone might need to edit the articles first. -- 签名 sig at  08:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, the articles need to be edited. Don't know why that is. My apologies. CMD (talk) 08:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public holidays 

message: 120.28.121.48 (talk) 02:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:02, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2014 

message: I can see that the Spanish and Portuguese dependencies (Canaries and Madeira etc) were removed without any discussion, I thought geographically they were still part of the African continent. I could try to put them back, but don't want to break the template...Jokulhlaup (talk) 16:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they aren't dependencies or special territories. The Canaries are a region of Spain as the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. They are like Toledo, Barcelona or Malaga.--Adri Ferriol (talk) 11:48, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And they're in Africa, hence their appearance in this template. CMD (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish to comment that Spanish and Portuguese dependencies and autonomous regions should not be part of the Africa template for several reasons; most notably, none of the relevant 'dependencies' and autonomous regions share any part of culture with Africa - instead sharing culture with their mainland Europe counterparts. From a cultural perspective, the Canaries, Madeira and Azores do not form part of the African continent. In addition, most of these 'dependencies' are part of the European Union, for they are integral archipelagos of the European continent not the African. From a solely geographically perspective, they do not form part of the African continent; they are seen instead as mid-Atlantic islands. It is with this information in hand that I propose the immediate removal of Portuguese and Spanish dependencies that do not recognise themselves as part of Africa (specifically the Canary Islands, and the autonomous regions of Madeira and the Azores.)ns_2 (talk) 18:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have strong feelings either way, but the list of dependencies on this template should always be line with that on Template:Africa.  Please make this suggestion at Template talk:Africa to see if you can gain consensus. Warofdreams talk 18:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: They should be included. Territories and dependencies are included in continent topic templates. See, eg., Template:Americas topic and Template:Asia topic. AHeneen (talk) 13:24, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish and Portuguese dependencies  

message: Could someone please add this article? I don't want to break the template Gbawden (talk) 19:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Madeira, along with the Canaries and the plazas de soberania, was removed repeatedly by the same editor, starting here. Considering the opposition to these edits in the previous section, I've restored them again. SiBr4 (talk) 22:41, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Demographics of Madeira]]

message: In Constitution of Zambia, this template links directly to the DAB page Constitutions of Libya. This is an error per WP:DABLINK, and User:DPL bot is complaining about it. A link to the DAB page should go through . Narky Blert (talk) 13:08, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem now fixed, after raising the issue at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Template:Africa topic on 24 March 2018, when I came across this particular problem for the second time. Another editor found the solution, which anyone watching this page had failed to do. Narky Blert (talk) 21:53, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A link to a DAB page 

message: change "|eSwatini" to "|eSwatini (Swaziland)", like "|Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire)" and "|Cape Verde (Cabo Verde)" are listed on this template. Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:53, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 23 October 2018 

message: Can the wikilinks for "eSwatini" → "Eswatini" within this template please. This will allow for the standardising on the chosen spelling of "Eswatini" over "eSwatini", as per the move discussion on talk page of Eswatini article. Thanks. - Wiz9999 (talk) 06:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Cabayi (talk) 10:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 1 November 2018 

message: Sahrawi republic is fully recognised by Zimbabwe  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.85.200.164 (talk) 10:55, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 20 December 2018 

message: Greetings, Near the top, at line listclass = hlist add " wraplinks" after "hlist". To fix overflow beyond right margin. Thanks. JoeHebda (talk) 03:42, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this have the intended effect? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  - Yes, thank you. JoeHebda (talk) 13:27, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 21 September 2019 

message: Greetings, Because of large number of wikilinks within this navbox, please change "state =" to be "collapsed" instead of autocoll. 
Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 17:47, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: ,  ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 7 February 2020 

message: Add Photography in South Africa to the Photography of Africa template. South Africa appears as a red link at present. Amitchell125 (talk) 05:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: but this didn't require amending the template: I just added it to the bottom of the article. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:31, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 5 May 2020 

message: Hello, it would make a lot of sense to expand the bracketed addition of " Eswatini (Swaziland)" to "Eswatini (formerly Swaziland). In the current version it is suggested that "Swaziland" is still a legal alternative name. But this is not the case. In the country itself, as well as internationally and under international law, "Eswatini" is the only currently official name. "Swaziland" is completely obsolete and an anachronism. The name is now only used by less educated people and is only found on badly maintained or orphaned websites. Compare also: "The Government of the Kingdom of Eswatini": (http://www.gov.sz/) / UN M49 Standard:  (https://unstats.un.org/unsd/methodology/m49/) / ISO 3166 Standard: (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SZ) / European Union: ([https://op.europa.eu/en/web/eu-vocabularies/at-concept/-/resource/authority/country/SWZ/)--Bestoernesto (talk) 02:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia articles are not named following legal terms, nor is the content defined by legal terms. Alternative names exist for many countries, and this name change occurred only two years ago. CMD (talk) 04:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I forgot that Wikipedia is neither professional nor an encyclopedia in the sense of the word like the Encyclopædia Britannica. It is rather something like a forum or a playground of a social network, where individual users enforce their personal preferences with the help of their extended rights, instead of giving the readers official laws, official rules and current facts. And two years is nothing, of course. Probably as much as two weeks. Probably it would be better to move the lemma Eswatini back to Swaziland and leave it there for another 20 years to comply with the rule "Wikipedia articles are not named following legal terms, nor is the content defined by legal terms". If you do, then do it right.--Bestoernesto (talk) 05:05, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wish to move the Eswatini page you may do so through the process outlined at Wikipedia:Requested moves. CMD (talk) 05:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 21 August 2020 

message: Zanzibar is missing, can someone please add it? -- Toby Mitches (talk) 09:52, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, this is a general wrapper template that is flexibly used for a variety of topics. It is limited to just the higher-level topics, primarily countries. CMD (talk) 10:46, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But almost half the entries on 'dependencies and other territories' aren't of 'higher-level topics', why isn't Zanzibar on the list?  -- Toby Mitches (talk) 07:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Zanzibar is nowadays part of Tanzania. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:20, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I am aware, however Zanzibar like many other entries listed on the 'dependencies and other territories' is different as it has its own wiki on wildlife, islam, tourism and more, also Zanzibar is the only semi-autonomous region of Tanzania, so why is it not on the list? -- Toby Mitches (talk) 16:13, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Template:Africa topic#General documentation on continent-topic templates, first get Zanzibar added to Template:Countries of Africa. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , good idea, and it's done now :) -- Toby Mitches (talk) 05:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Zanzibar isn't on the list because it is part of an already listed country. Including various subdivisions of all these countries would be unwieldy and redundant. CMD (talk) 10:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  actually that is a good point, understandable, have a great day CMD (talk) -- Toby Mitches (talk) 10:55, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zanzibar 

message: Please change the link for Seychelles from "2020 in Seychelles" to "2020 in the Seychelles." The other island country in year pages have it like this and this is the grammatically correct title. Thanks in advance. Dan the Animator 01:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Many or most Seychelles-related articles appear to omit the article "the". See Index of Seychelles-related articles for examples.  – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I see my mistake. Very sorry for making the request. Should I move the 2020 in the Seychelles article I made back to 2020 in Seychelles than? Also, I recently moved 2020 in Solomon islands to 2020 in the Solomon islands. Should I undo this move? Thank you  for your help. Dan the Animator 16:14, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Dan, that sort of decision is usually up to the local editors. As long as a redirect is in place either way, this template will function. CMD (talk) 13:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks CMD! :D Dan the Animator 02:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 12 September 2020 

message: In the "Architecture of Africa" navbox, could someone amend the link for "Morocco" to Moroccan architecture (the page's current name) instead of Architecture of Morocco (a redirect)? Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 23:29, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The way this infobox works is that all the links have the same format. One possibility would be to switch to Template:African topic. CMD (talk) 01:27, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I see, I wasn't familiar with that. No worries then, it's not a big problem. Thanks! R Prazeres (talk) 02:36, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 6 January 2021 

message: * List of wars involving Burundi
* List of wars involving Ethiopia
* List of wars involving Mali
* List of wars involving Nigeria
* List of wars involving the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic
* List of wars involving Somalia
These are the only African countries not to have colors for their victory, losses, and on going conflicts. Doremon764 (talk) 14:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of wars involving African countries (series) 

message: When I created the page "Capital punishment in Comoros," I originally and accidentally left a word in the title. (The original title of the article, with my typo, was "Capital punishment in the Comoros.") I fixed the naming error, but now the page in the "Capital punishment in Africa" infobox still directs to my original page with the typo in it. Afddiary (talk) 08:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That is normal. See Comoros and its talk page, where the country is referred to as "the Comoros" repeatedly. I don't see a talk page discussion, but there may be one somewhere. The page that you created should probably have "the" in it, to match the apparent consensus. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 4 September 2021 

message: replace the redirect List of ecoregions in the Gambia with List of ecoregions in Gambia. Tom Radulovich (talk) 00:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Individual redirects cannot be replaced. I believe there is a general consensus that Gambia articles should be at "the Gambia". CMD (talk) 02:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 6 September 2021 

message: I have recently created the article "List of wars involving Equatorial Guinea". However, the link still appears red in this template, and when hovered over with the cursor, it states that the page has not been created (the link still works when clicked on). Please change the link to "List of wars involving Equatorial Guinea" to a valid link. 296cherry (talk) 19:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to be a case of the need for patience, since the servers can only work so fast. A red link is not seen for example on the List of wars involving Eritrea page. The link is blue as it should be. On the List of wars involving Equatorial Guinea page you created, the template shows "Equatorial Guinea" in boldface type, just as it should be. If you still see this red-linked somewhere, you should try purging the page by holding down the Shift key as you click on "reload". If that doesn't work, then try a null edit by opening the edit page and clicking on "Publish changes" – don't make an edit and don't leave an edit summary, just click on "Publish changes". That is called a "null edit" and should completely purge the page, which should turn the red link to blue. If you need more help, please feel free to ask. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 20:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whether a link is red or blue is determined server-side, and holding down the Shift key as you click on "reload" isn't a WP:PURGE, it's a WP:BYPASS - a client-side action, not affecting the servers. There's no need to go for a WP:NULLEDIT: a purge (which is a server-side action) will always fix it - but only for the page being viewed at the time: each page will need to be purged individually. When a navbox has several thousand transclusions, as with this one, this is tedious, and is why we have the WP:Job queue. In short: just wait. It might take up to a day, but all the incorrect redlinks will turn blue if left to get on with it themselves. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 06:02, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  learned some new things today; thank you for that, thank you very much! Rarely use bypasses and purges, just test-cases pages mostly. Use the clock in the upper right for that. Sometimes use a null edit to check to see if an edit is working, then let the servers handle the rest. Thanks again and stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 18:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming you mean , this does a WP:PURGE. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I do have that box checked under "Appearance". Is there an issue I should know about? P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 18:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 27 April 2022 

message: Unlike , this template doesn't have a "noredlinks" parameter. Why is this parameter not included? Jarble (talk) 21:46, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing "noredlinks" parameter

message: please color it saffron like other hinduism related templates Saad Ali Khan Pakistan (talk) 11:18, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This is a general template used on thousands of articles about different kinds of topics. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 28 December 2022 

message: An application of this protected template is used for "Law enforcement in Africa". In the last group "Dependencies and other territories" there is a link to the disambiguation page Law enforcement in Western Sahara. Per WP:MOSDAB could this be formatted Law enforcement in Western Sahara please.— Rod talk 11:06, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: won't make any difference, will it? The piped link you suggest will still be (redirected) to the disambiguation page, and will appear the same in this template. Also, can you point to exactly where in MOSDAB this piped link is required? Lastly, this is a special navbar that is used to depict a wide range of Africa topics. Edits to individual entries in topic-specific navbars cannot be made in this template. Thank you for your edits! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 15:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:INTDAB explains that the link will still take the reader to the dab page however "the community has adopted the standard of routing all intentional disambiguation links in mainspace through "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects. This makes it clear that such links are intended to point to the disambiguation page.". This means that the bots etc which identify innapropriate links to dab pages do not get included (eg Disambiguation pages with links showing 54 links to Law enforcement in Western Sahara.— Rod talk 15:20, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, and the link is supposed to appear to the reader with the "(disambiguation)" visible so the reader knows it's a dab page before they click the link. So the only thing your suggestion will change is that those 54 links will go to the redirect instead of directly to the dab page – also usually considered a no-no. In the case of the few navbars that link to dab pages, this can only be helped if the navbar directly links to the dab page. In the Africa topic navbar due to the way it has been designed to apply to a wide range of Africa topics, the links are not direct links and, to my knowledge cannot be fixed by editing this template. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 16:04, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: To the best of my knowledge there is no requirement for the "(disambiguation") part of the link to be shown to the reader. As this has been done with lots of other templates/navboxes I will ask for advice at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links and reference this discussion. Others more knowledgeable than me may have comments and your contribution would be welcome.— Rod talk 16:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, INTDAB says it's okay to actually make the qualifier visible, especially in hatnotes, and I think that if a reader does not want to go to a dab page, it is better to show the qualifier, "(disambiguation)", so that those readers who don't want to go to a dab page will know it's a dab page and not click on it. In my opinion anything that saves readers unnecessary steps is an improvement. I've subscribed to [your inquiry] and we'll see what others say about your suggestion and possible fixes. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 16:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

text: MOSDAB is ambivalent about how the link is displayed -- it is a matter of preference as to whether to display the "(disambiguation)" as part the link. However, the REASON to use a link with "(disambiguation)" has nothing whatsoever to do with how the link is displayed. When a template links to the page without "(disambiguation)" -- that results in "What links here" being useless for distinguishing which articles contain an intentional link to the disambiguation page and which are errors that need to be corrected. older ≠ wiser 16:34, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Rodw and Bkonrad: this needs to be fixed per WP:INTDAB.  Either link via the redirect, or just suppress the entry as done for the "Flag of" prefix, as Morocco and the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic are already linked in previous sections. Certes (talk) 17:00, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation link on Law enforcement in Africa