Talk:Jean Vanier

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With regard to the observation below, I should like to suggest that the rule against the expression of points of view can be taken too far. A statement such as, "Tony Blair is considered to be one of the greatest British statesmen of all time" needs a citation since it is such a controversial opinion and one probably held by very few people. A statement such as, "T.S. Eliot is thought to have been one of the most important poets in the English language during the twentieth century" is so widely accepted that it scarcely constitutes a point of view. The same goes for the description of Jean Vanier in the offending old text. Some people need to recognise the difference between abiding by the rules and becoming pettifogging about them.--AlexanderLondon 18:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong. Beside the fact that T.S. Elliot is NOT "...thought to have been one of the most important poets in the English language during the twentieth century...", except by accolytes and "King's new clothes" type of people---- Wikipedia authors cannot express their own view point. Each article has its own title, and each is about a particular thing. None of the articles have a title of "Alexander London's opinion about ___________, expressed as if it is a fact, rather than an opinion". These articles are not what you think about the Subject of an article, but rather what "reliable source[s]" have documented about that article Subject. 71.32.67.176 (talk) 09:17, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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message: Theres also a highschool named after him in Moose Jaw, Sask. I would edit it but im not as familliar with the suspefics of wikipedia as i could be. Danos 18:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moose Jaw 

message: This article is not being objective WRT points of view. There is no need, and it is not necessarily true to say "at Canada's most highly respected school at Upper Canada College in Toronto" as it has not been cited or confirmed that it is the most highly respected school. And under what category? What kind of school? I think it is a student who wrote this contribution.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dukechris (talk • contribs) 17:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Points of view - school 

message: This page needs some more biographical information, for example it does not indicate that Jean Vanier was Canadian, though there are many hints throughout the text that he had significant interest in or connection to Canada. There is nothing here except for his connection with L'Arche and his ministery with Light. 64.38.183.220 (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography 

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message: The text was vandalized. I removed the added book to restore damaged text; after the restoration, I added again the new book in order by publication date.--Riccardo Fangarezzi (talk) 15:48, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51596516
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https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/02/22/internal-report-finds-larche-founder-jean-vanier-engaged-decades-sexual-misconduct  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.74.161 (talk) 13:16, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The "independent report" is clearly a hit job, designed to destroy any allegiance to Vanier. The allegations in the "report" may be true. But they also may not be true. The supposed acts that several women claim against Vanier -- are that Vanier, in his position of authority, smoozed his way into having them give hand-jobs, or blow-jobs to him (but not any penetrative sex). Hand-jobs, and blow-jobs. All of the accusers are fully grown adult women, with no physical or mental impairments. These women claimed that Vanier convinced them that the hand-jobs and blow-jobs were okay because (here is what they call the 'deviant' part), because Mary did these same acts to Jesus. The 'deviance' was not sexual, but instead it was doctrinal. As with all 'hit jobs', they waited until he was dead before they published this 'report'. Notwithstanding the derogatorial characterization of the accusations (e.g. sexual 'abuse'), none of what Vanier is alleged to have done with these women is illegal. Even if all the allegations were true, none of the activity is illegal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.67.176 (talk) 09:52, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual Abuse 

message: Now that Vanier's disgrace is known all over the world, have the schools listed in this article changed their names to remove 'Vanier' from their name? Mksword (talk) 09:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? You think schools will have been renamed in the two days since the report came out and when you asked the question? The article states that some school boards are considering renaming schools.  That's all we can say until (and if) we have sources to show that renames have happened. Meters (talk) 01:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Have the schools changed their names to remove 'Vanier' from their name?