Talk:Magic in Harry Potter/Archive 1

message: "Albus Dumbledore has been known to do good-sized feats of magic without the use of a single spell, and is known to only have used an actual spell once - and when he did, it smashed effortlessly through a sturdy door."
What about Ennervate (in this same scene) or Portus (in the fifth book)? Should the second half of this sentence should be removed?
neatnate 17:59, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed it. Aris Katsaris 04:02, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Mentioned in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them. Aris Katsaris 12:56, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dumbledore performing magic without incantations 

message: Now that I have your attention, I'm working on an article on the Wizarding World, where I'm planning to describe the setting in detail, and once done I'd quite like to move the descriptions of wizard society in this article there. Objections? Please voice them. -- Kizor 09:24, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tiiiime's up! -- Kizor 23:42, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, so this has been somewhat delayed. -- Kizor 07:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impending Article Split 

message: moving the terms (that regard blood purity) to Blood purity (Harry Potter).--jonasaurus 22:55, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  terms 

message: I came here looking for squibs, following a link from a redirect page. I'd like to have a list of squibs, such as:
*Mrs. Figg
What's the best way to do this? Uncle Ed 19:09, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
:You could look at Blood purity (Harry Potter)#Squib (which the squib page ought to redirect to instead...), which lists a couple squibs, which might be all that are ever mentioned in the books. That's also all that HP Lexicon mentions, and same for JKRowling's FAQ page on them --Mairi 07:17, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters of various types

message: How come the house elves apparate in Hogwarts?
:Aside from artistic licence on JK Rowling's part, we can only assume that what house elves do isn't apparition, but some other kind of magic which has the same effect. Note that the house elves appear to posess a great deal of inherent magical ability. "Teleportation" may be one of these inherent abilities, and don't relate to casting specific spells to apparate. (Well, it's a guess.) 88.107.112.147 15:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, this question has been answered. It was either on her website or in her World Book Day online interview that J.K. Rowling explained that house-elves have a different sort of magic from wizards (which allows them to better serve their masters), and that they could do certain things wizard's can't, including apparition-like teleportation in places where it is normally impossible. Kajerm
It says that it's unclear whether you can disapparate without a wand, but I think it is crystal clear that you cannot. Almost all wizards are basically helpless without a wand. After Hermione is tortured in Malfoy mansion, Harry has to grab the wands out of Draco Malfoy's hand in order for them to escape. He tosses Ron one of the wands and tells him to take it and GO. If Ron hadn't needed the wand, there would have been no reason to take the time and risk of tossing it to him; they would have both just disapparated immediately. Can that be changed?
64.131.187.102 01:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Apparition

message: Agree: Seems a logical proposal. The  Spells and spell-like magic in the world of Harry Potter page was a "leftover" after the huge lists of spells were split out into category pages. Makes sense to roll the information into here. - Beowulf314159 15:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: I've finished adding content from the aforementioned article with a behemoth for a title. These two interwiki links were 'left over': could a French and a Portugese speaker check where they belong?
fr:Imperium (sortilège)
pt:Lista de feitiços em Harry Potter
--Kizor 01:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge complete 

message: Where is the proof that Dumbledore understands parseltongue? (Am I spelling that correctly? Hardest word in the Harry Potter universe, in my opinion.)Emily 03:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To what are you referring?  I don't believe he ever spoke parseltongue, though he could speak Mermish.  Actually, after looking some more, Dumbledore's article does mention something to this effect.  I'll make another comment over there. fruitofwisdom 03:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

text: JKR said in an interview - I forget who with - that Dumbledore was "simply brilliant", and indeed spoke Parseltongue. And for Dumbledore not finding the chamber, perhaps he did not know where to look. Either way, this "proof" is OR and cannot be included. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dumbledore understanding parseltongue 

message: I support the merge of the article Disapparation into this article .   Lag 20:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disapparition merge

message: Inadvertently provided a "bad link" to the "avoid weasel words" guidelines section in my edit summary.  here it is:  avoid weasel words  --T-dot 09:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Avoid weasel words link 

message: Since it's listed here, I'll ask my question here: I know little is said about the phonetic properties of parseltongue in the books, but since its also used in the film, wouldn't it be possible to add some information on parseltongue as a language as apposed to only a magical ability? Redge(Talk) 16:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome to go ahead and note the attributes of it as a language, but make sure you note in the film and not in canon. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parseltongue 

message: "As one might expect, it is considered quite rude to Apparate into a private area such as a residence. For this reason, as well as for reasons of security, many private residences also have anti-apparition spells protecting them from uninvited intrusions. Therefore the most reliable (and most polite) way to travel to most locations is to apparate somewhere unseen nearby and proceed to the final destination on foot."
Could someone explain where this comes from? Michaelsanders 18:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's simply common sense, I'd guess. Not canon. That's why it says 'as one might expect' -- it's assumed common courtesy not to apparate into any old place. However, there is some support of this in canon when Arthur Apparates home from work but instead of arriving in his house, he arrives outside and waits for Molly to open the door. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 05:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I'll tone it down a bit. The 'don't apparate into a person's house' probably has enough support from canon and common sense to remain, but the idea that the 'ancient and powerful magics' on Hogwarts, which are supposed to be remarkable, are employed on several hundred box-standard houses is rather pushing the limits (as you can see, I immediately altered the 'apparate somewhere public', which suggested that people preferred to apparate in the middle of a crowd). Michaelsanders 12:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, that description in quotes is an accurate rewording (without infringing upon copyright) of what Dumbledore tells Harry in Book 6, chapter 4. An apparition-restriction spell exists and the same spell is used for all dwellings, including Hogwarts.  The boundaries of the area and whom it affects can be specified by someone. For other examples of the apparation-restriction spell in use, see Book 6 chapter 17, Book 7 camping scenes, and Book 7 scenes at Grimmauld Place.sewtf3 8:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Apparition

message: I'm not really sure if this is the right section for this but it seems that either there is an inconsistency in the facts about Voldemort's attack on the Potter's or Priori Incantatem does not strictly obey the "most-recent-to-oldest" order of regurgitating echoes. We are told that Voldemort killed James Potter first and then Lily Potter but in the graveyard duel "Echo James" emerges before "Echo Lily" despite the fact that his murder preceded Lily's and therefore he should emerge after her. Although I suppose it is possible that this is merely an oversight by Rowling but that seems incredibly unlikely in addition to the fact that the movie version, while not canonical, does follow the book's order.
:This mistake was actually fixed in later editions and thus doesn't really deserve mention. http://www.twwn.net/mistakes.php
:Mrobfire 17:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Priori Incantatem Inconsistency 

message: I added a section on life debts, such as that owed by Snape to James and by Wormtail to Harry in the Spell-like Effects section.  Please flesh it out for me as I'm not quite an expert and move it if it belongs elsewhere. --72.200.78.136 18:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life Debts 

message: While Parcelsus was mentioned in PS (he was on a Chocolate real source is  Frog card), there is no indication that he was a possible source for the word Parceltongue. Indeed, the real source is listed. So unless someone can find a reputable source, I'd say this is original research and should be deleted. Faithlessthewonderboy 02:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parcelsus 

message: If the priori incantatem spell can reveal the last spell a wand used..then why didn't the Ministry of Magic examine Sirius' wand to see if he really killed the people they think he killed instead of immediately sending him of to Azkaban? Veritaserum wouldn't hurt either to get the truth
:Veritaserum isn't admissable evidence in a trial because it can be resisted, according to the page here, and I think 'why not use Priori Incantatem' fell through a plot hole and was lost. (I suspect she didn't come up with the idea until after...) --StarChaser Tyger 09:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Black was sent straight to Azkaban. There was overwhelming evidence and many eye-witnesses, and he did not receive a trial. In their haste, I'm sure the Ministry broke his wand before anyone considered that he might be innocent. Faithlessthewonderboy 11:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sirius black 

message: Its a paragraph, has very small notability, no out of universe sources, creation info, it would fit very well in this article. Judgesurreal777 05:07, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree Most of that paragraph seems irrelevant anyway. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: merge in metamorphmagus

message: There was a  tag added on Horcrux earlier today, but no discussion started, so I'll do it...
*No.   Both articles are long and detailed.  Horcrux should keep its own article. Matchups 19:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge in Horcrux 

message: Deckiller has nominated that the following articles be merged to this page:
*Occlumency
*Spells in Harry Potter
*Magical beasts (Harry Potter)
*Unforgivable Curses
*Unbreakable Vow
*Patronus Charm
*Metamorphmagus
*Floo Network
*Dark Mark
*Dark Arts (Harry Potter)
Most of these on the basis that the articles are not notable.  Discuss further below. •Malinaccier• T/C 20:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Support, as these articles don't have enough notability to stand on their own, and would be better combined in here. Judgesurreal777 22:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge Dark Mark with Magical objects in Harry Potter or Dark Arts (Harry Potter). Merge Floo Network with the Floo Powder article at Magical objects. Spells, Patronus Charm, Unforgiveable Curses, Dark Arts and Magical Beasts are notable enough for articles. Unbreakable Vow, Metamorphmagus, Legilimency (not mentioned here) and Occlumency could merge here.  Most already have a section to themselves, saying "see X for more information" or something to that effect. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 05:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, either that or the already relevant section in this article. I think that would be better, as there is a lot of fancrufty type stuff in these articles (speculation etc.) that we do not need in an article. It would be better to remove it and put the relevant stuff here. As a side note, the only thing "wrong" in your post above was the lack of signing (with for tildes - ~~~~). Please do this, even if you do not have an account. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No Merge for Unforgivable Curses.  Magic (Harry Potter) is already plenty big.  Prune the OR and speculation from UC, sure... but don't merge, it'll become ungainly or you'll have to cut too much. - BalthCat 01:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles suggested to merge into this article 

message: Should we cite the movies as examples the visual effect of the apparition when they may have just added the smoke for effect?
It seems more reasonable to cite the books as the only source for the effects of magic.
Beligaronia 04:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't. The films aren't usually considered canon. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 05:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparition. 

message: I read in this article that veelas charm males. This clearly means that Veelas can only be female. However, can a veela or part-veela woman and a human male give birth to a boy? If so, would that boy have the veela charm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.187.39.145 (talk • contribs) 
:Perhaps the veela characteristics are dormant in males, or the veela genes disallow for males to be born. As we do not know any male Veela children we cannot be certain. But yes, Veelas do attract males - but as demonstrated in GoF, those with strong willpower can resist (Mr. Weasley, and later Harry). THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 05:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part-Veela Males 

message: Out of the five exceptions, only four are mentioned in the series: food, love, life, and information. The fifth is probably money, although it is only mentioned indirectly. 20:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Money is a man made creation to begin with, having no realy value without something behind it --Storytellershrink 01:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on adjusting this section the fact that the word "probably" was used for the case for money is a very good indication that it is speculation although it is likely they are Gamp's Law without reference/evidence it doesn't belong in Wikipedia, I would also suggest removing "information" from the list as that has no references. --Sin Harvest 12:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Principal Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration 

message: While being really cool and scary, (myself being a harry potter fan), the article on the Inferius isn't notable, there is no real world information on it, and the article therefore becomes a plot regurgitation, which is duplicative of the book and film articles. Therefore, mention it here. Judgesurreal777 01:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with a merge, under the Dark Items or Creatures subcategory. A lot of that article is OR too, so that can be wiped. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, the concept may be in other works, but the name was certainly a JKR original. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 05:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the merge, the Inferi are (or is) not that notable for having its/their own article. Lord Opeth 00:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge in Inferius

message: I propose this section is deleted. It is largely Original Research and full of cruft. For example: page numbers in DH - 1+3+3 and 5+0+2 is taking it a bit too far. If it is decided to keep the section, there is a lot of cleanup required as well. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 00:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Malinaccier for deleting it. All discussion about his decision here. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 04:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magical Number Seven 

message: "But in HP1 and HP2 film Hermonie uses a spell on Harry to make his vision clearer and to repair his glasses outside Hogwarts."
The above sentence suddenly comes when describing about the significance of the number seven in the Harry Potter series it seems really out of place should. I think it should just be removed from the article all together what does everyone else think? --Sin Harvest 10:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I agree, it was awkward and trivial. faithless (speak) 10:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of place sentence 

message: * Unforgivable Curses contains information which is not in Magic (Harry Potter). Anthony Appleyard 09:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, I think the best resolution would be to give a quick outline here and then redirect to main article --S.ELF OBJECTION! 08:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Since no one has made another comments about this I'm going to go ahead and cut down the Unforgivable Curses section in Magic (Harry Potter) and show a main article redirect thing in --S.ELF OBJECTION! (talk) 10:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus at the wikiproject was merge, and we have found a suitable target (this one), so feel free to merge these articles at anytime. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

text: What about merging the Unforgivable Curses into "Spells" rather than in here? Lord Opeth (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I suppose that would be the more appropriate merge as it is a sub article of the magic article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge in Unforgivable Curses and Dark Mark

message: Why is everyone so sure Bellatrix knows occlumency and legilimency? I don't remember it from the 6th book. What chapterBracelet (talk) 23:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure of the page, but Snape says "Aunt Bellatrix has been teaching you occlumency.  What are you trying to hide from your master?"  Which at least proves she knows occlumency.  This occurs when Harry is at Slughorn's Christmas Party, and sneaks off to eavesdrop on Malfoy and Snape.  Malinaccier (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, it says that on pg 323 of the the US hardcover edition in chapter 15, The Unbreakable Vow.  Grey Maiden talk 02:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bellatrix and occlumency

message: "...out of the Six Animagi described as such in the books (Minerva McGonagall, Rita Skeeter, James Potter, Sirius Black, Peter Pettigrew, and Rita Skeeter)"
Rita Skeeter is listed twice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.190.66 (talk) 09:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I'll fix that.  Malinaccier Public (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Animagi transformation

message: What exactly are we trying to prove here? That Christian fundamentalist loonies are right? Serendipodous 16:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, perhaps someone should remove it. Obviously someone has put it there by mistake. --Jammy (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the heck is this article listed among the Satanist and Occultist wikiprojects?

message: There's some detail on spellcasting technique but barely a mention of potions, though from book 6 it's clear that not just ingredients but technique can make a big difference in potion making. Should there be a small section on magical potions too? JackSeoul (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Potions?

message: Rowling says it is impossible in her universe to resurrect the dead, so this section's claim that "raising What exactly happens when the Resurrection stone is used? Are the dead really brought back? Or just representations of them? This needs to be cleared up before that essay can go back in. Serendipodous 15:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is exactly right, as shown by "The Tale of the Three Brothers" (HP7, and also readable in "The Tales of Beedle the Bard" on the Amazon website). -- 217.171.129.70 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 13:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Communicating with the dead" section

message: I woul dispute the claim that this being "sometimes accompanied by a distinctive cracking or popping sound" is "associated with ineptitude rather than success"; after all, the sound is clearly non-magical in cause, being that of the air molecules being violently forced out of the way (arrival) or rushing to fill the sudden vacuum (departure).  I don't doubt that skilled magicians can counteract this with another spell (perhaps by Apparating the air that would be displaced on arrival, into the space left by departure?), but I don't see how failure to do this amounts to ineptitude at Apparition itself. -- 217.171.129.70 (talk) 14:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparition 

message: Portkeys should be listed after the Floo Network as they are both used for travel.  --Bending Unit (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portkeys 

message: Should a comparison be made between Inferi and the bodies in the Dead Marshes in the Lord of the Rings? IIRC, in LotR, the bodies try to drag Frodo down don't they, similar to the Inferi trying to drown intruders to Voldemort's cave. Or am I clutching at straws? TheTrojanHought (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's what we consider to be OR. Sorry. It was an interesting point though. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 04:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inferi 

message: After glancing through the first few sections, I think this article needs a spoiler tag.  A big blinky one,(just in case).
Don't want to do it myself though.  91.109.70.127 (talk) 06:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Had this discussion last year. Outcome was no spoiler tags, be they blinky or not. Sorry. WP:SPOIL tells why. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 07:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler 

message: After reading the Wiki article I found a discrepancy.
" Albus Dumbledore told Harry after finding the magically concealed boat to reach the locket Horcrux that "Magic always leaves traces...sometimes distinctive traces..."
This was, infact, in the 6th book, The Half-Blood Prince. Or atleast I"m pretty sure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.43.103 (talk) 04:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Book reference is wrong

message: The magic in Harry Potter series is seen as equivalent to science of our world. Known researches included the Philosopher's stone etc. And there is also journal named "Transfiguration Today". So this part of magic should be included in the article. Dreamback1116 (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need a Magic study section 

message: It is not mentioned anywhere in the series, nor in any other piece of canon, that the information in this section is true.  While it is true that these things may not be magicked, it is confirmed nowhere that they are the Five Principal Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration.  Indeed, the section seems to me to be largely composed of OR, and I suggest that it is removed entirely from the article. --CBrock055  00:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure it's not mentioned anywhere in the series? I don't have the books with me, but this forum post suggests that Gamp's Law is mentioned by name in Deathly Hallows and that there are five exceptions to it. If I had the book, I could look it up. Anyone else? --clpo13(talk) 00:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I may have been a bit unclear in my post.  What I meant was that the info in that section is completely non-canon and composed of OR, not that Gamp's Law was never mentioned.  In the seventh book, yes, Gamp's Law is mentioned.  However, the only exception that was canonically given was food.  Whoever wrote that section of the article was clearly making assumptions, and, as far as I'm aware, mere assumptions do not qualify for inclusion in an encyclopedic article, even if it is about the laws of magic in a fictional world. =) --CBrock055  19:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, okay. There's a reference in that section that points to a bunch of www.accio-quote.org/themes/therules.htm quotes by J. K. Rowling about the rules of magic, and I think most of that section came from there, but I'm not really sure. If you want to trim it down to what's just referenced in the book, I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I think having a third opinion would be good before making such drastic changes.
--clpo13(talk) 04:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not been able to find any hint that information cannot be magicked; J.K. said that "you cannot find someone just by writing them a letter and then tracing the owl", but claiming that no information can be obtained magically is a bit overstretching that sentence.85.18.101.3 (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Clp013, the source you give here doesn't mention Gamps Law at all really, just says that there are laws. I do not recall a mention of information, but I will leave it there as I clean up the section, simply because I may well have missed it. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is "life" really one of the Five Principal Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration? We've seen wizards create both animals (Avis spell) and plants (Orchideous spell). Maybe the one who wrote it meant "bringing back people from the dead"; in that case shouldn't it be changed to "soul"? 84.90.61.144 (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Gamp's Law Section

message: It should be noted in this section that Molly Weasley implicitly used the Killing Curse on Bellatrix Lestrange in The Deathly Hallows.  It is the only confirmed used of Avada Kedavara by a "good character," albeit as a non-verbal spell.  In-text, Harry even notes how similar Lestrange's death is to Sirius's.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.96.157 (talk) 05:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unforgivables 

message: I think two sections were merged into one, because it went from talking about photographs to ghosts.  Can someone please fix it? 143.200.225.110 (talk) 09:35, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Photographs

message: Yeah you guys need to fix the Horocrux section of this page. It's all messed up.-James Pandora Adams  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.130.194 (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something wrong with your Horocrux section 

message: Should this page be tagged as containing original research? I see that this page is full of unsourced content. However, one might argue that the few amount of inline citations is understandable and we should Ignore all rules. I believe that this page contains loads of original research. --Mr. Guye (talk) 19:21, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this page be tagged as containing [[WP:NOR|original research]]?  

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message: Do any of the editors of this article know of any published reference to any connection between the words "Wingardium leviosa!" and the late actor Peter Wyngarde?  I've long assumed that J K Rowling devised the wording as a homage to Wyngarde, but has anyone else made the same connection?   Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:09, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wingardium leviosa....!" 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Fortescue (Harry Potter Portrait). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  PamD 22:18, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fortescue (Harry Potter Portrait) listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The article states that the curse -cannot- be met with countering means. The text then quickly proceeds to list some means by which the curse can be averted, mostly physically but clearly also magically. The words "but" and "however" appears in very close proximity rendering the rather small section quite confusing - to not say unnecessarily contradictive. Arcsoda (talk) 13:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It first states the norm, and then goes on to list the few exceptions, including dodging, physical objects, and Harry Potter. —El Millo (talk) 15:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing killing curse counters