Talk:Signs and symptoms

message: Hi all. I've proposed a new stub, , to mark the many proto-articles on topics related to Pathology - including various tools and techniques of pathologists, subdisciplines of pathology, and microscopic entities which are part of disease processes and are used by pathologists in diagnosis. In assembling the items that would be appropriate for the stub, I found that some of them had been labeled as medical signs, and marked with , under the broad definition that anything which is detectable and relates to a disease is a "medical sign". I've noticed that both broad and narrow definitions of "medical sign" are used on this page. In my experience, eponymous medical signs and other medical entities specifically referred to as "signs" are concepts which refer primarily to a appearance or observation rather than to a physical entity which is part of the disease process itself. Thus, observations made on physical examination (e.g. strawberry tongue) or radiographic study (e.g. Kerley B lines) are "medical signs" but entities such as fibrosis, astrogliosis, and auer rods mary
are not (even though they can be microscopically "observed" for diagnosis), and these would be appropriate for my new stub & category. Whether you support or oppose my idea, I'd appreciate your joining the conversation at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. Thanks. -RustavoTalk/Contribs 02:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting input on stub proposal: Pathology-stub 

message: The article begins: "A medical sign is an objective indication of a sign or characteristic..." How can we rewrite this to be less tautological? Silv the Something (talk) 22:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: - Thanks for the heads up.   - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 07:38, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A sign is a...sign" 

message: Seems totally out of place to be labelled Semiotics. First section headed semiotics states that it was once used but now used for sign communication.?--Iztwoz (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Went ahead and changed it.--Iztwoz (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: Is there a reason for the separate pages? Mostly these are referred to as such and used interchangeably in many cases. Both pages are quite small.--Iztwoz (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Signs and symptoms

message: The caption should say "features" as opposed as to the current "symptoms" since 90% of the features in the graphic are SIGNS, not symptoms. The latter are subjective features as expressed by the patient that are NOT observable by another subject. Feeling hot is a symptom. Measuring a temperature is a sign.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjalexander (talk • contribs) 18:59, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption of the image is wrong/misleading 

message: Briefly a A syndrome is a recurring cluster of signs/symptoms co-occurring and a disease is a syndrome for which the causes (etiology) are identified. 
This is agreed by on many sources including the wikipedia page on Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome
The current text under the Syndrome heading is not aligned with this definition and the examples it gives are quite confusing and arise from the fact that in the common use of these words, even in medical literature, these are used very often interchangeably as synonyms.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjalexander (talk • contribs) 19:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syndrome section goes against most accepted definitions