Talk:Brno

message: </br>I think the sentence Soon after the industrial revolution, the town became one of the industrial centres of the Czech Republic does not make sense; there was no Czech Republic "soon after the industrial revolution".     I changed "Czech Republic" 
to "Moravia", but perhaps The town is now (and has ben since the industrial revolution) an industrial center of the Czech Republic would be more accurate?   Aleph4 23:50, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

message: As far as I know, Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, lived and worked (if being a munk can be called work) in Brno.
Alas my knowledge is very limited about this, but I think it should be mentioned in the article. There is also a 
Mendel museum somewhere in town. Cheers. 195.190.143.254 07:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gregor Mendel 

message: There is also a line of Czech LMGs called Brno, I believe. Don't know much about Czech weapons, so would someone do it? ;) -- Миборовский U|T|C|E 02:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guns 

message: So, I read what Wikipedia has to say on this guy and I'm still confused as to how he relates to Brno.  Can someone enlighten me?
John 17:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He was born there, see . Qertis 09:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk]] - an economist 

message: I got rid of the links to educational institutions.  I figured they're not really about Brno, but about the particular educational institutions they link to.  They should be on pages about those institutions, not necessarily the city.
John 01:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. :Category:Brno may be useful for this kind of information. Pavel Vozenilek 19:51, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links. 

message: As of 06 August 07 the article claims that the German-speaking population of Brno was deported "according to law and order" in 1945. I think any reasonably neutral observer would take issue with that claim. Since I am no expert on the subject I made no change but flagged that that assertion is seriously contentious.  Wikipedia is no place for nationalists - let's try to keep things sober, yeah? User: dmhaglund 12:23 UTC, 06 August 2007
::Article remains unchanged as of 28 August; I am going to rewrite the bit in a more neutral way. Dmhaglund 12:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I have now removed the blatantly biased bit. What remains is almost nothing. Perhaps someone can add to this section? There is basically nothing on the city's history after 1939 at this point.Dmhaglund 12:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Section still unacceptable

message: I don't know anything about Brno, but surely the first part of the  very first sentence of this item cannot be correct - i.e "Constructed entirely by Mr Mozart Mozart (son of Mozart Mozart) on an overnight trip on new year's eve 1857" Pontac 11:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  Someone vandalized it.  It's fixed now. — John 12:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozart Mozart 

message: I've pulled my comment below out of "Recent edits" since it was skipped over by folks apparently wanting only to conduct personal attacks, and it was accordingly becoming lost in the muck. I'd like to offer it as a suggested NPOV resolution of the naming dispute. Askari Mark (Talk) 17:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Jan.Kamenicek and Honzula have pretty much captured the nexus of the problem and how it should be addressed.  Precedence on Wikipedia calls for using the city’s current name unless 1) it has a long-held popular version in English (like Prague) or 2) the article is addressing a specific point in time when another form was being used (as it would be anachronistic to substitute “Mexico City” for “Tenochtitlan” in an article on the Aztecs).  Where Brno may have been officially called “Brünn” (e.g., while under Nazi control), it should be so noted, but otherwise treated as “Brno”.  Where it had a mixed population, noting what each segment called it would be appropriate, but again it should be otherwise presented as “Brno”.  While it was a part of the HRE, if it was usually referred to by its German or Latin names, then these should be so mentioned.  If nothing else, that would be helpful to readers who are using this article as a reference to understand secondary, non-Wikipedia sources which might employ any of these alternatives.  Askari Mark (Talk) 23:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "We were edit warring, both of us, we were blocked, both of us. Now, we are sitting here with the cup of tea discussing about the issue and how to make it better. Why do you bring our previous behavior here please ? You tell me please.≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 21:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The most recent posts in "Recent edits" have been a continuation of the personal attacks. I'd like to leave them behind in the "Recent edits" section. Only those "drinking tea" should post in this topic — and only about resolving the problem. Askari Mark (Talk) 19:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot imagine better and more elegant resolution than is the appendix in Ethymology made by Yarp&Lysy. As for me, the problem Brno vs. Brünn is solved by this successfully. Honzula 18:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you share that with us, Honzula? Askari Mark (Talk) 01:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

text: That works for me! Can we reach a general consensus on that? Askari Mark (Talk) 02:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If "Brünn" is frequently used in English text books so why "Brno (..." ?? Why not any lang-en form ?? But I can also agree with "Brno (in English also known as ..." Honzula 08:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not like Brno or Brünn is a traditional "English" name like "Prague" or "Warsaw". The German name is largely used for pre-1918, while the Czech name is largely used for post-1918. The style I proposed matches the formatting used in hundreds (thousands?) of other European locality articles, a simple listing of the most important of the alternative names available. Clarification about how alternative names are used should be detailed in the body of the text (the Names/Etymology section), while the introduction should be relatively concise. Olessi 14:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The German name for Prague is "Prag" and for Warsaw "Warschau". Moreover, as far as I know, there is no letter "ü" in English. Are you sure the traditional "English" name is Brünn? --Honzula 17:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm unaware of a traditional English name; few would probably know anything about it. The way such names usually get carried over into English, it would probably be rendered "Brunn" (rather than "Bruenn"). That's what often happens to German words with umlauts (e.g., "Konigsberg" for "Königsberg"), and it is most likely to have entered English usage through the German. Unless we explain it here, I doubt most English-speakers would know that Brünn and Brno are the same place; however, if they were come across the name in an English-language publication (book, map, etc.), a rendering of the Germanic name is the one they most likely would have encountered prior to the Velvet Revolution. Askari Mark (Talk) 18:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, regarding this, I suggest the variant "Brno (, known also by other alternative names)..." Acceptable? --Honzula 19:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I did not want to suggest that "Brunn" was standard English and I apologize for any confusion. I was trying to show how umlauted words tend to be anglicized; "ü" is often replaced with "u", not the correct "ue" (and, in fact, I can't recall ever seeing it spelled "Bruenn" in English sources — rarely "Brunn", but usually "Brünn"). Let's keep it to Brno (German: Brünn) .... Askari Mark (Talk) 00:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Resolving the usage of "Brno" vs. "Brünn"

message: (Apologies in advance for my ignorance of Wiki etiquette and inability to use the Wikipedia formatting language. I've never contributed before and doubt I will again, so I hesitate to invest time in such learning; please forgive me.)
Although my very limited knowledge of Wikipedia rules suggests that the reference to "Czech Manchester" ("Český Manchester") has no place in Wikipedia at all, because it's not sourced, it is in any case slightly disputable. First off, amusingly, multiple towns claim to have received this nickname, see: 
http://cestovani.atlas.cz/clanek.aspx?rubrika=356&clanek=110707 
-- hands this title to Dvůr Králové nad Labem
http://www.vyletnik.cz/kalendar/2007/4/21/stredni-cechy/
-- hands it instead to Kolín
www.zahradkari.cz/czs/ur/ur405.htm 
-- this time, let's hand it to Liberec!
extranet.kr-vysocina.cz/turista/index.php?sekce=6&jazyk=&obec=732
-- and now Humpolec!
But actually, the reason why I jumped into the fray in the first place was my urge to say "No! It's not *Czech* Manchester, but rather *Moravian* Manchester!" That, you see, is the phrase I've always heard used. Sadly, Google does not really seem to agree with me: "Czech Manchester" gets many times as many hits as "Moravian Manchester," and it seems to predominate even after you filter out all the *other* Czech Manchesters. The Czech Wikipedia, however, does somewhat agree with my memory, stating: 
"Due to its dominant textile industry, Brno began to be termed the Austrian (or as appropriate Moravian or Czech) Manchester."
(I must say, though, that while "Austrian Manchester" is the most accurate of the three, I've never heard it and can't even imagine having heard it... due to modern Czech anti-Germanic sentiment if nothing else. :-) )
In any case, note how the cited sentence from the Czech version places part of the causality upon the fact that the *textile* industry, not just industry overall, was dominant. That's been in the background of every citing of the "Moravian Manchester" phrase I've heard, and I believe that, if a source to cite can be found, it belongs in the English version as well.
Well, enough belaboring a point. Hopefully I'm signing correctly below... 
Erik Piper 217.198.112.101 13:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech Manchester 

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message: The "Brno today" section was clunky so I was bold and decided to clean it up a bit. I mainly deleted things like the extensive history of one of the bullets and superfluous things like "BRNO COULD BE THE OTHER CAPITAL OF PRAGUE BUT THE CONSTITUTION WON'T LET IT". (I think the entire section looks really stupid in bullets anyway, but I won't get into that.) Cheers 90.178.52.11 (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Brno could be capital of Prague? Wow. - filelakeshoe 18:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: I was BOLD

message: New foundings say that Brno is around 1000 years older than till now thought.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,720513,00.html
Look at Eburodunum! Ptolemy already mapped it 200 AD.
And the same holds true for many more towns and early cities...history will
have to be rewritten alot in this region! :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.222.216.217 (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age of Brno 

message: There is scarcely anything about the history of Brno between 1948 and 2013 on the page. I have just added a short mention of the visit of Pope Benedict XVI in 2009. More personalities from abroad came to Brno during those 65 years, including Queen Elizabeth. And a lot of other events took part, of course. --Zbrnajsem (talk) 16:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Brno between 1948 and 2013 

message: Could we get an English guide to the pronunciation, please? "burno"? "bruno"? "bruhno"? Others? The Czech pronunciation is useless. Red Slash 01:25, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Are you kidding me?

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message: The Name BRNO is Not written or translated into the English Language! And it never will be an English Name, because the language has RULES! .  English uses a unique system called VOWELS!!! that it places between consonants so you know if the name is pronounced 'Borono' or 'Birino'  209.121.43.211 (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Brno" is not an English word, so why is it used here? 

message: @185.104.130.30 is removing content from the page, presumably because he dislike it. Please discuss it together, should it be removed or not? ToadetteEdit (chat)/(logs) 07:13, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "presumably because he dislike it" - grow up. Read the edit summaries. Read WP:IG. And learn to write correct English. 185.104.138.30 (talk) 07:21, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: 1. I learnt English for a long time and 2. I'll ping the user who added the gallery in the first place ToadetteEdit (chat)/(logs) 07:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Watch the personal attacks. Yoshi24517 (mobile) (talk) (Very Busy) 07:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of gallery by an anonymous user