Talk:Maurice Papon

message: I don't agry with war criminal crime against humanity is not crim of war. The holocaust has never been considered as a crime of war.
:See What is a war crime?. The very concept of war crimes came from the Holocaust. "Genocide, crimes against humanity, mistreatment of civilians or combatants during war can all fall under the category of war crimes."
Maurice Papon is not a war criminal he sended people to dead from his office when France was officially in peace with the germany. Crime against humanity can be a war crime or not. According to the french legislation he was found guilty for crime against humanity no crime of war (both crime exist in french legislation).
Right. And this is of special importance, since crimes against humanity carry no prescription (statute of limitation), while war crimes do. David.Monniaux 16:27, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed mate! But, next time, just be bold!. Tazmaniacs 04:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinction between war crimes & crimes against humanity 

message: Isn't that interesting? So, when Maurice Papon was forced to resign after the kidnapping of Mehdi Ben Barka, for which we are still waiting for the French and the US to open up their archives, Émile Dewoitine, another Collaborationist who fled to Juan Peron's Argentina after the war, was named in 1971 director of Aérospatiale, into which Sud Aviation had merged. These companies were the one to create the Concorde. What a nice coincidence, isn't it? Tazmaniacs 04:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sud Aviation]], [[Aérospatiale]] and some very strange nominations 

message: Is this subsection really needed? The decorations are a controversial issue, were obtained much later after the Liberation, and I personally think that it is superfluous, not to say misleading, to have this section without explaining circumstances of attribution & criticisms. I see two solutions: delete (and let the reader read the article), extend (and explain how he got them, controversy and all). I don't like the second solution, as it tend to focus too much on what is, after all, only decorations (how many people have got the Legion of Honour? Thousands, aren't they? Beside, ain't you supposed to demand it? So people who could have it don't, because they never asked for it...) and because it would make redundance with what is already in the chronological development about his life. Any comments? Tazmaniacs 21:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Commandeur de la Légion d'Honneur is significant : it is the third rank in the Légion d'Honneur. You do not request a promotion, you are recommended by someone else. There is a quota of 1250 Commandeurs, and even though the quota is not followed very precisely, Commandeur is by not mean a chocolate award. Rama 21:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decorations subsection 

message: * Commander of the Legion of Honour (stripped)
*"Carte d'Ancien Combattant de la Résistance" (card for Résistance membership during World War II)
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: Commandeur de la Légion d'Honneur is significant : it is the third rank in the Légion d'Honneur. You do not request a promotion, you are recommended by someone else. There is a quota of 1250 Commandeurs, and even though the quota is not followed very precisely, Commandeur is by not mean a chocolate award. Rama 21:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Decorations

message: How could they release him?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.232.32 (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Political cowardice and lack of conviction.  It could be worse - Unit 731's commander was pardoned by the U.S. despite his extensive and horrific crimes, participating in U.S. bioweapons research.  He died a free, unpunished man despite being one of the greatest monsters of the 20th century.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.209.12.67 (talk) 03:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  release 

message: From the "Papon's release in 2002" section:
:...Former Justice Minister Robert Badinter gave him an unattended support, prompting indignation from the family of the victims and lawyers Arno and Serge Klarsfeld.
I have no idea what "unattended support" means; is it perhaps a French term translated verbatim into English? It's certainly not a common English expression. Loganberry (Talk) 01:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Inattendu" and "unattended" are false friends, "inattendu" means "unexpected". I corrected it. --N0osphR (talk) 21:15, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is an "unattended support"? 

message: Why does the article say that "This angered the relatives of Papon's victims, human rights NGOs, and many in the political left..." when the source [23] clearly states that it left both political left and right parties uneasy?
Maybe "This angered the relatives of Papon's victims, human rights NGOs, and many in the political left and right..." would be better so as to quote the source correctly and not appear biased.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kleinhhl (talk • contribs) 12:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skew under Papon's Release in 2002 

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message: De Gaulle "perfectly knew his past" is unnatural English. "Perfectly" is almost certainly a mistranslation of "parfaitement", which is used in French rather as "quite definitely" or "most certainly" is used in English - "Vous dites que je mens?" - "Parfaitement!" ("You say I'm lying? - I most certainly do!").  So "De Gaulle was well aware of his past" or "quite definitely knew his past" would be more accurate.213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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