Talk:Aquinnah, Massachusetts

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message: Should the town seal image in the article be changed?  On the actual town website, they use a different seal, seen here:  .  Sahasrahla (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say absolutely since the new seal uses the new name. Arwcheek (talk) 00:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Town Seal 

message: Didn't John Kennedy Jr's plane crash here? And if so, shouldn't it be mentioned in the article? 209.91.15.36 (talk) 06:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  John F. Kennedy Jr. 

message: I edited and made the Moshup's Beach piece it's own heading.  The tone seemed far too conversational and I edited it to have a more factual and less circumstantial tone.  Please feel free to edit as deemed fit, however the style did not seem to reflect a legal or serious tone, especially in light of the seriousness in protecting the cliffs.  Is Moshup's Beach one and the same as Jungle Beach?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.183.13.16 (talk) 14:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Moshup's Beach

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Oppose WP:USPLACE -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 00:23, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The article states "vote of 79 to 21", which is either an error or revisionist history.  Newspaper reports confirm my memory 79 to 76.  Reference 5, to the Boston Globe, which presumably supported the lopsided count is dead.  However, numerous contemporary newspaper articles are available on-line and confirm the 3 vote margin.  My family owned property in town at the time (and still does).
A previous attempt to change the name in 1991 failed - 89 to 36.  
I don't believe that the town records for that time period are available on-line.
References:
1st vote: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7660356.html 
2nd vote: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1933&dat=19970512&id=96kgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=72gFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5662,2369214&hl=en http://www.upi.com/Archives/1997/05/15/Gay-Head-voted-out-as-Mass-towns-name/9370863668800/ http://articles.courant.com/1997-05-23/features/9705230029_1_town-names-changed-colorful-town 
Approval had to be confirmed by the Massachusetts Legislature (Great and general court); that was a vote by elected representatives from the entire state, confirming the home rule petition.  The change took effect in 1998. https://malegislature.gov/Laws/SessionLaws/Acts/1998/Chapter110
Interestingly, although the name change was driven by members of the tribe, the official name of the tribe remains "The Wampanog Tribe of Gay Head". http://www.uanativenet.com/sites/default/files/files/constitutions/Part%20V%20Tribal%20Wampanoag.pdf  
The history of the claim settlement that caused the tribe to be recognized can be read at http://aghca.org/about/  The actual agreement and court documents can be read at http://aghca.org/about/judicial-and-governmental-issues/key-documents/
The newspaper of record is the Vineyard Gazette, which is available on microfilm at the Boston Public library.  Perhaps someone nearby could print out the relevant articles and scan them.
Rectapedia (talk) 13:06, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote to change name is incorrect 

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message: A more recent article in the Vineyard Gazette (the paper of record) also cites 79-76.  https://vineyardgazette.com/news/2018/05/17/aquinnah-officially-turns-20-gay-head-name-endures
Both links on the references to the erroneous 79-21 are now dead.
I don't know how to make the proper edit to the article, but it is annoying that the false narrative persists.  It was a very close vote, and remains somewhat contraversial.  Truth matters.  So does every vote.  (This update is written as the 2020 US presidential election is hanging on thin margins...
Rectapedia (talk) 23:01, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote to change name is *still* incorrect