Talk:Elefsina

message: This one thing an average reader wants to know about modern Eleusis, is: what is the site of the Mysteries like today? Can anyone help? Wetman 02:46, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: See  and . May you have Peace Profound. Optim 02:57, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Good links. I'll work something into this entry (unless you plan to). Thanks! Wetman 05:20, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont have time to work much on this, so Please improve it if you can :) Optim 05:27, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article clobbered, without discussion, an existing article and does not provide a very prominent disambiguation.  The card game was named Eleusis because people were already very familiar with Eleusis as a (classical) name for the city!  The current article is redundant with Eleusis (game), although it provides slightly less information.  This should be merged into Eleusis (game) and then Eleusis should be redirected to Eleusina or should be a bare disambiguation page. Schoen 09:22, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Argh

message: It is since November 16, 2010 that references are asked for some strong statements in the article regarding climate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397188981&oldid=393577333
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397462881&oldid=397458250
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397492027&oldid=397464550
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=399129290&oldid=397512495
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=405674014&oldid=403478024
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=410198572&oldid=409309764
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=410811361&oldid=410779728
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=411543210&oldid=411475600
In the last request for citations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AnomieBOT automatically changed the date of the request to February, but it should be pointed out that the requests date back to November.
It must be pointed out also that each time the request for citations has been deleted, but no reference has been added at all. It seems that statements not supported by references are defended.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397339788&oldid=397188981
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397464550&oldid=397462881
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=397511215&oldid=397498481
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=402081526&oldid=399366657
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=409309764&oldid=405674014
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=410779665&oldid=410198572
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eleusina&action=historysubmit&diff=411475600&oldid=411475462
The references in the climate subsection are:
1) the link to the WMO European temperature record, containing the referenced statement that the record was measured by minimum-maximum thermometer: and this information gets deleted from the climate subsection by some editor.
2) a HNMS page containing mean temperatures of the Elefsina weather station and nothing else;
3) the link to a feasibility study for an industrial project with a short descriptive part about climate.
Notice that the references (1), (2) and (3)
  - do not say that "Eleusina is well known for its intense summer heat"
  - do not say that [Eleusina]"has been described as Europe's warmest coastal area in the summer"
  - do not say that [Eleusina] "has been Greece's warmest area in terms of systematically achieving temperatures over 45.0°C in modern Greek meteorology"
  - do not say that "Elusina presents a unique climate in entire Europe"
  - do not say that [Eleusina] "is the only coastal area in the continent that can challenge the most continental areas of South Europe in terms of extreme high summer temperatures"
Interestingly, the reference (3) (http://www.eib.org/attachments/pipeline/20090584_eia_el.pdf) has been used in the past in anoter article (Athens) as a reference for the statement that Athens is the warmest area in Europe during the summer, another thing that the study does not say at all. It seems that some editors using that reference have severe difficulties in reading from Greek. Similar difficulties perhaps exist with respect to English, because once the wrong reference has been revealed, the same statements have been supported with another reference that does not say that at all (it was a study about the strong urban heat island effect characterizing the city of Athens).
Some more time is granted to the editors Weatherextremes and 147.197.190.60 (and any other one willing to contribute) to provide reliable and verifiable references for these statements. What they seem to say seems quite reasonable, some references must exist for that. If not, the statements without references will be deleted.
93.145.251.2 (talk) 09:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved to Elefsina; not much participation but persuasive evidence presented.  No such user (talk) 12:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Eleusis →  – It has now become apparent that the most common name in English is Elefsina when referring to the modern city. 
Below a list of relevant references for your convenience: 
Municipality of Elefsina: https://www.facebook.com/DemosEleusinasMunicipalityOfElefsina
Greek National Tourism Organization: https://www.visitgreece.gr/mainland/attica/elefsina/
UNESCO : https://uil.unesco.org/city/elefsina 
Greek Ministry of Environment and Energy and European Environment Agency: https://aqicn.org/city/greece/elefsina/ 
Elefsina Municipality and the United Cities and Local Governments: https://www.agenda21culture.net/sites/default/files/files/cities/content/informe_elefsina-eng.pdf 
Hellenic Petroleum, Greece's largest Hydrocarbon producer which has the largest refinery in the country located in Elefsina, refers to the modern city as Elefsina as well: https://m.helpe.gr/en/the-group/what-we-do/refining-supply-trading-petrochemicals/refining/ 
– Weatherextremes (talk) 10:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

text: Also the Hellenic National Meteorological Service : http://www.emy.gr/emy/en/climatology/climatology_city?perifereia=Attiki&poli=Elefsina Weatherextremes (talk) 08:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 8 August 2022 

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Modern archeological discoveries began with excavations in 1882. (Mylonas 1961, p. 12). Viriditas (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dating