Talk:Patricia Cornwell

message: See Talk:Patricia Cornwell/archive for long sections of discussion removed from here.  The discussion is still going on.  Ortolan88 00:32, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Archives

message: This article needs to include:
* The article says Cornwell was born in 1956, but that her dad left the family in 1952....?
* Cornwell's other publications
* Her notorious "affair" with the wife of an FBI agent, and other publicity coups
Jumbo 16:58, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, what is up with her dad leaving her family 4 years before she was born?  Clearly she was not born in 1956 but earlier. Lisapollison 02:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requests 

message: Hello : ) I've collected a large number of sources to do a major rewrite/expansion. We need to source every detail of the article using verifiable reliable sources. This will make it easier to keep the false information out. Also Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons needs to be followed to make sure the content is accurate and encyclopedic. FloNight talk 16:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to be rude here, but "DUH" - Of course, that's how all articles are done. But then there is no false info in this article and your claim that there is is troubling. And I'm not sure what you mean by a major rewrite/expansion. Please give details here before you try to make dramatic changes. DreamGuy 16:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello DreamGuy, I beleive you know that Patricia Cornwell is a target of malicious editing. That is how it came to my attention. This article is very incomplete. It does not cover many aspects of her public life. I want to make sure all the information introduced is well sourced. I believe some of the information in the article is lacking sources. I plan to fix that also. Please do not revert my edits for the next 24 hours while I do the rewrite. I think you will be pleased with the outcome. 
The current image needs to be moved down the page. Magazine covers need to be used for discussion about the magazine or an article in them. They should not be used merely to illustrate an article. There are lots of other photos available since she is a master of PR. After I find some that meet Wikipedia policy and guidelines, I will let other editors choose which one to use. FloNight talk 17:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Good. When I checked yesterday, one of the links in the article was dead. FloNight talk 12:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Just trying to help.  Per the citation policy, all embedded html links should be backup up by a complete bibliographic reference (title, author, publication, date) for that reason. Thatcher131 12:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major rewrite/expansion

message: Sample of changes planned by FloNight. This should give you an idea of the scope and quality of the my changes. 
# Make current image meet Wikipedia fair use guidelines by: a) Adding the following text to the article edit space. -- FAIR USE of IMAGENAME.jpg: see image description page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IMAGENAME.jpg for rationale --  b) Substituting Template:Fair use in for current tag. c) Modifying the image page to comply with fair use policy. d) Rewriting the image caption. e) Discussing the Richmond magazine article in the text of the article. f) Moving the image down the page next to text discussing the article.
# Add a free copyright licensed image of Cornwell to top of article. 
# Model article after other contemporary American writers.
# Rewrite/expand the introduction. 
# Cite source for article text and remove dead article links.
# Discuss awards 
# Discuss her PR for her new book. 
I hope this answers your question. I plan to start work on the article today. FloNight talk 12:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sample of changes

message: Source: "amend the website to remove the offending material"Article: "shut his website down"These disagree, please fix. --Zerotalk 14:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Following the source 

message: The reference numbers are screwed up; could someone better-versed than I in wiki references fix them? Barnabypage 14:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Does anyone have any reliable figure on how many books she has sold? Entheta 18:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Book sales

message: Originally said to be released on Nov. 28, 2006 (2006 being listed as the date in this article), the release date on Amazon.com has changed to Oct. 23, 2007link  -- does anyone have any other information on this? --Somnilocus 13:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book of the Dead Release Date? 

message: I tried to edit the Text and Re-Add in the Material on Cornwells Lesbian Affair and now Lesbian Marriage in Boston.  It seems 100% clear that she is a Lesbian.  However, I am unable to add this proposed Change - QUE PASA (SEE Below)?
Cornwell had a lesbian affair, between 1991 and 1992, with a former FBI forensics instructor, Marguerite Bennett.  It was revealed in 1996.   FBI agent Eugene Bennett, who had been accused of filing $175,000 in fraudulent expense claims, which is wife lied about to protect him.  Eugene Bennett went to prison and the couple divorced. When he was released in 1995 he tried to kill his wife in order to obtain $1,000,000 in life insurance and custody of their two children.  On June 23, 1996, he took his wifes minister hostage and planted pipe bombs at the Northern Virginia Community College where Marguerite Bennett worked as a police lieutenant. For this he was found guilty of attempted murder (and several other accounts) by a jury on February 11, 1997, (despite an insanity claim) and recommended for 61 years in prison. On May 15 1997 he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.  At this trial Mrs. Bennett testified that she and Ms. Cornwell had two intimate contacts but said the relationship had nothing to do with her divorce.
Ms. Cornwell subsequently came out as a Lesbian, moved to the Boston area, and as of 2007 married a Jewish woman under the recently court order changes in the state marriage laws.  She worries about potential attackers, hides her address and has a body-guard.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by ITBlair (talk • contribs) 
:Something in the reference coding was screwing the page up so that none of the text that appeared after it showed up until another example of the screwed up code was used, with everything in the middle invisible. I fixed that both on the main article and here on talk when the copy and paste of the text screwed the rest of the page up also.
:Major problem with the lesbian claims is that we need VERIFIABLE, RELIABLE sources. The New York Times article linked to for the first part did not include much of the information that paragraph was claiming, so I edited it down. Also, the new paragraph claiming Cornwell admitted to be a lesbian, marrying, etc. was completely unsourced. The link at the end ONLY confirms that she hired a bodyguard, and said it was for the stalker incident, not any lesbian marriage, as that paragraph insinuated. I've removed all claims from the article about lesbianism that do not have reliable, verifiable sources. I know earlier we had discussed an article where she admitted a long term relationship, and if that still exists we can include it and link to it, but other claims not supported by proof cannot stay. DreamGuy 17:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lesbian Marriage

message: * Patricia Cornwell: 'Finally, I feel rooted somewhere': In her first British interview since 'marrying' her female partner, Patricia Cornwell explains why she kept quiet about her sexuality for years - and how her new life is transforming her forensically gory novels. Cassandra Jardine reports The London Telegraph Benjiboi  —Preceding comment was added at 01:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another ref

message: Dear Boss,
The Jack The Ripper section had a quote about the Litigation surrounding The Last Precinct, that's why I removed it.  It's replicated elsewhere which makes the article thick like glue.
Dont mind me giving the trade name.  Fūkkenwulf (talk) 12:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leather Apron 

message: I removed the following sentence per the WP:BLP policy:
As a teenager, Cornwell suffered from anorexia and as an adult suffered from substance abuse issues.
If you have a reliable source, feel free to add it back with a citation. Kaldari (talk) 03:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The anorexia at least is now well sourced to interviews with Cornwell, as is her bipolar and depression. As for substance abuse: "she rammed the Mercedes into a stalled, empty van, flipped her car over three times ..." in 1993 after "polishing off a pitcher of Bloody Marys." Which is on the page as "while under the influence of alcohol", and sourced to the New York Times- 220 of Borg 06:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLP edit 

message: The line "she reversed her position in support of the death penalty" is badly written.  Does that mean she was once anti- and is now pro-capital punishment, or the other way around? 45750born (talk) 19:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cornwell and Capital Punishment 

message: According to the biography blurb in the 2008 paperback edition of her novel "The Body Farm" (Berkley Books, New York), "Patricia Cornwell is the Director of Applied Forensic Science at the National Forensic Academy".  
The National Forensic Academy (NFA) is part of the Law Enforcement Innovation Center (LEIC) at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville.
According to the LEIC website (http://leic.tennessee.edu/default.html), there is no direct mention of her in connection with the organization or the NFA, as a member of either the staff or the Board of Advisors.
Although I cannot deny her connection with the NFA, I haven't found any verifiable sources to support her role as a Director, past or present. 
If the information is correct, it should be added to the article.  So, I'm adding this comment in case anybody has verifiable information. Twistlethrop (talk) 00:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, it actually said that? Cornwell has no professional background or training in forensic science. In fact author Kathy Reichs, who is a recognized expert in the field, has chided Cornwell on pretending to have experience she does not have. Cornwell is a significantly large donor to the NFA, and I suppose it's possible she could have received some honorary title as a result, but I have never been able to track down one through official sources the times I tired. "Director" has such a specific job description I can't imagine they would have ever called her that. I don't know if the book blurb is some major editing mistake or what. DreamGuy (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the first sentence, inside back cover, of the Berkley Novel edition of 2008.  I agree, "Director of Applied Forensic Science" is a specific title.   There are some on-line sources that, on their own, would corroborate her holding of this position.  A Google search for the two phrases "director of applied forensic science" and "Patricia Cornwell" produces over 8000 results.  I'm sure that the majority comes from the same original source, wherever it is. It would be easy to interpret this as a fact and include it in this article.  Not me, though, without more verifiable sources. Twistlethrop (talk) 13:16, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cornwell's connection to the National Forensic Academy 

message: How did Cornwell "marry" Staci Ann Gruber in 2005? Same sex marriages were not legal then.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:58, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Legal in Massachusetts in 2004. Same-sex marriage in Massachusetts. That's how they "married", like anyone else. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  06:06, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage in 2005 

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message: I have some evidence that Sam Daniels died decades after leaving the family (mhickslaw.com/about-us).  The article implies otherwise.  Cornwell was probably not left a cold parting note while still a child. 2603:8001:1E45:C981:7865:9225:70D3:51F2 (talk) 01:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early life misleading? 

message: Here in the english wiki they say Patricia Cornwell is his real name but was born Patricia Carroll Daniels. The Italian wiki says she changed her name to Patricia Daniels Cornwell, which means she retained the surname she was born with but changed it to a middle name with surname Cornwell. Is it something like that?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.206.25.215 (talk) 21:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's his real name?