Talk:Grammatical aspect

message: One paragraph calls relative tense an aspect; it's not, it's a relative tense.  The second sentence of the same paragraph calls "perfect" (aka "retrospective") an aspect; it's not an aspect.  I merely ask for citations to support both sentences.  If no such citations are forthcoming by the end of September, I propose to delete that paragraph.  Eldin raigmore (talk) 05:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You can find plenty of such citations and analysis of the matter just by searching Google Books for a phrase like "perfect aspect". While you and I might prefer not to call this an aspect, it's not for us as Wikipedia editors to say "it's not", when plenty of mainstream linguists say that it is. There is some (but not much) critical discussion of the matter at the end of the article on relative and absolute tense. W. P. Uzer (talk) 06:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calling relative tense "aspect"; calling "perfect" (also known as "retrospective") an aspect. 

message: The article claims that "I have eaten" is in the present tense. That can't be right, can it? Equinox (talk) 03:04, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it can - the past tense would be "I had eaten". But as with most things in linguistics, terminology and analyses vary widely. W. P. Uzer (talk) 07:57, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, it says, "All [including this phrase] are in the present tense, as they describe the present situation", but "I have eaten" doesn't describe the present situation any more or less than "I had eaten": i.e. only because the present is always a result of the past. By that token, "I am eating" could be future tense, because it "describes the future situation" (that there will be a future time at which the person has eaten). Suspicious. Equinox (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

text: I have arrived to this page while searching for something else and I see this discussion re an rather odd labeling/inclusion/classification of the present perfect tense to the umbrella category of present tenses, presumably joined together with the present simple and  present continuous tenses. This category seems to be something just made-up.-- 86.124.116.241 (talk) 21:59, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I have eaten" is present tense?! 

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message: The text as it stands (29/08/23) includes semelfactives among the verb classes with telic situation aspect.  I haven't changed it,  but I note that Smith (1991)  (already in the references)  does not agree (she classifies them as [-durative,  -telic]).  The present text cites no references for including them as telic.  I suggest this needs attention from somebody with a wider knowledge of the literature. Wikimosquito (talk) 09:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are semelfactives telic?