Talk:Pewter

message: I think it is rather fragile. I do not feel authoritative enough to change the page, however.Pdn 05:24, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Pdn, you are correct, at least some Pewter alloys are fragile. Please feel free to edit the article. --195.243.67.130 10:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I must query the equivalence between spelter and pewter.  Spelter is an obsolete word for zinc.  Peterkingiron 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelter 

message: As far as I can tell, the only difference between bronze and pewter is the copper to tin ratio. Is there some physical difference between them (such as the physical difference between Bainite and Pearlite), or is it a historical artifact of naming ("Gamma rays, x-rays, visible light, and UV rays are all forms of electromagnetic radiation. The only difference is the frequency and hence the energy of the photons.").
--76.209.30.239 16:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  copper + tin = bronze 

message: I propose that the Danforth link be replaced with a more informative link.  The photos aren't very informative and don't really expand on the topic.  Ctordtor 03:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danforth link 

message: Did smiths use Pewter to make swords? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.12.123.141 (talk) 13:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have seen no examples.  Pewter is a very soft metal compared to others that would be more suitable for the sword craft. Altzinn 00:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pewter Swords 

message: It seems unlikely that lead poisoning is the reason for mistrust of tomatoes.  The effects are gradual and subtile.  More likely is the relationship of the tomato plant to the nightshade plant.  Thus, I suggest that this line be researched or removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.107.8 (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomato 

message: This article contains enough information to merit  instead of , and certainly not .  Therefore, I have added  to it.  --Thinboy00 talk/contribs @822, i.e. 18:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections 

message: Could we add something in reference to 'pewter' being used to describe color, especially when it comes to car paint colors?  The populatirty of pewter as a car paint color can be seen with the "Pewter Metallic Clearcoat" that is manufactured by Ford (paint code HJ) on the 2006 Ford Expedition.  Logrolls (talk) 16:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pewter as a color 

message: "Pewter can be melted by a blow torch and mixed with liquid magnesium that makes a flash when lit this is easily done at home."
WTF? This sentence either needs a citation or it needs to be removed. It sounds like a prank fact.
Karlchwe (talk) 21:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah...that doesn't belong here. I removed it. Wizard191 (talk) 21:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melted magnesium, easily done at home? 

message: I had the following section, which was removed in march (Yea, I'm not quick at noticing these things) by User:Wizard191 with the reason(→Types:  rmv solder info as it isn't pewter).  
I included this, and think it should be included, because some solder matches the definition of pewter as provided in this article.  ("Modern pewters must contain at least 90% tin to be considered a pewter"), and I think at least pointing out the similarity is important.  
Obviously, I don't want to just add it back without some second opinions, so what do y'all think?
Original text:
:Solder, used to fuse metals such as pipes and electrical connections, is basically pewter wire. Solder has often a lower tin content than normal pewter (around 60% tin) but exceptions do occur. For example, solder made of 96% tin and 4% silver is commonly available.
Dsmouse (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I removed the above text because it made it sound like solder is just a subset of pewter, which it definitely isn't. The example of 96% tin and 4% silver is not pewter as pewter doesn't use silver as an alloying element. Per Hull, pewter is only alloyed with lead, bismuth, copper, and antimony. I will update the article to properly reflect that. Wizard191 (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solder 

message: The first sentence of this article seems to have been vandalized.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.91.217.186 (talk) 20:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The first sentence 

message: I have read that the modern, leadless composition pewters share lead's characteristic of expansion upon solidification, due to the presence of antimony, which allows items to be cast with great precision and no shrinkage upon cooling.  Is this true?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.40.24 (talk) 15:17, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  casting characteristics? 

message: I am quite certain that this statement is incorrect. There are many suppliers selling pewter that is no where near 90%. For example, the metal I use for jewelry is a tin/bismuth pewter where tin is actually in the minority  and this does not seem abnormal. I suspect that tin being a significant part is required for it to be considered pewter, but it doesn't seem to even always be the primary/majority ingredient. Pewter is definitely a pretty broad term. I'm going to remove that 90% claim.Snowrail (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "must be 90% tin to be called pewter" incorrect 

message: First off, Sorry for bad English, wikipedia skills, and metal competane but can realy the melting point be as low as 170–230 °C?
"It has a low melting point, around 170–230 °C (338–446 °F), depending on the exact mixture of metals"
Tinn has the lowest melting point of 231.93 °C, copper has 1084.62 °C, Bismuth has 271.5 °C, Antimone has 630.63 °C, lead has 327.46 °C. All acording to wikipedia. Can a alloy have a lover melting point the melting point of the loverest(?)? I dont see haow that works. Whan i melt pewter myself on the stove it always separates out some hard material that form lumps. I assumed that was the rest of the alloy. 
Point is that i belive that it cant melt before 231.93 °C, and that the rest of the alloy stays unmelted until the temprature is highe enugh for them to melt. Can someone enligthen me? And if I am correct i don't have the skills to change it.
Obvyusly, English is not my first languange. Thanks for understanding(Hopefully), and reply.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.246.38.127 (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: An alloy really can (and, in this case: does) have a lower 'lowest' melting point than its components. I don't know how or why, though. Richard 10:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Look under eutectic alloy. I don't know how good WP's coverage of the topic is, but this is a vital (and fascinating) topic for engineering, crystallography, geology and a few other subjects. Look at banded feldspars too. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that link, Andy! Richard 11:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Zoned feldspar is perhaps a better name. We need an article on those. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong melting point? 

message: I came to this page looking for the answer, but didn't get it. Why was this alloy developed? What advantages does it have over pure tin? All alloys have some advantage over the constituents, otherwise people would just use them instead. So what's the case here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.79.42 (talk) 13:45, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer lies in Copper and antimony act as hardeners. Tin by itself is too soft for many purposes, see Tin#Physical properties. Richard 07:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was pewter developed? 

message: It seems likely (if not indeed obvious) that pewter containing lead was once commonly used to make eating and drinking vessels, as well as other items that might have frequent skin contact. Was death from lead poisoning correspondingly common? Did many people have high levels of lead but not high enough to cause obvious disease? Was it less of a pressing concern because of lower overall life expectancy? Or what? TooManyFingers (talk) 16:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health effects historically? 

message: For the vast majority of its history, including modern history, pewter was tin hardened by lead (and other metals).  Lead is central to the story of pewter.  This page is overly focused on contemporary pewter, which doesn't make sense since pewter's heyday was centuries ago.  Contemporary pewter should just be a paragraph or two in an article that is mostly about pewter with significant lead content.  Dismissing normal pewter as "ancient" is misleading, since lead-hardened pewter was produced well into the modern era. 2603:6011:C802:FD99:715E:58F6:5606:C7B4 (talk) 02:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page isn't honest about lead