Talk:David Wilshire

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replies: text: "equality for lesbian and gay people" is not an NPOV description - it is value loaded. I suspect he'd say he does support equal rights for ALL people. Most supporters of clause 28 (which I agree is notable - and particularly since he proposed it) would not say "we oppose equality for gay people", they'd say "we oppose the promotion of this lifestyle" etc. Others may view that as opposing equality for the people themselves, but best for Wikipedia to record exactly what he has done and said, and not use interpretative commentary - let the reader decide that for themselves.--Docg 11:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Just stick to the facts: "In 1987 he introduced Section 28 as an amendment to the Local Government Bill. The amendment made it illegal for local authorities to "promote homosexuality or ... promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality". The ban was eventually reversed by Parliament in 2003. [give reference]". --Docg 11:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to provide the citation before reinserting the material. We can't have controversial claims about living people left with  on them.--Docg 11:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: This article is weighted very negatively; there is a huge focus upon thing which have received negative attention. There is zero mention of any of the other parliamentary work he has done. One-sided and appears to fall foul of WP:UNDUE. –  Toon 13:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you mean like claiming that Britain was full? Or saying that Princess Diana should stay away from Parliament?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You surely don't disagree that the article is being used to push someone's POV here? –  Toon 14:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just searched through Google News looking for something to balance it with. I didn't have any luck -- how about you?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Stubbed.  If it is truly the case that this politician has never been written about positively in any reliable source, then we may have a real problem.  But for now, stubbed while we work on a balanced biography and not something that reads like a Labour hit piece. Thatcher 14:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

text: LexisNexis contains 278 articles containing the terms "David Wilshire", "tory" and "Spelthorne" prior to Jan 1, 2009, before the scandal broke (plus numerous articles from 2009 about the scandal, of course).  Probably most of those are for the correct person.  (There are more than 1000 articles on "David Wilshire" but they may not all be about the Tory MP.)  I imagine somewhere in those 278 articles there must be an occasional positive statement. I don't have time to look them all up, and this is not my area of expertise anyway.  But they are out there. Thatcher 14:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The problem wasn't soley what information was presented, but how it was written, as Thatcher alludes to, it read like the Lib Dem flyer I got through my door at the last general election (bias disclaimer: I voted for a Lib Dem MEP). –  Toon 14:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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