Talk:Democratic Party – demokraci.pl

message: I had been planning to write an article on the Democrats for some time, but never got round to it. It is OK if someone beats me to it ;-) but I do not agree with simply moving Unia Wolności to Democratic Party (Poland). The Democrats are an entity mostly based on the UW, but with considerable input from elsewhere, too. It is not just a name change - Belka and Hausner did not simply join the ranks of the UW in a different guise. UW and PD should have their own articles each; after all, you wouldn't redirect, say, PPS to PZPR either, would you? Comments welcome. --Thorsten1 08:42, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer to have the content in one article. Legally the PD is the succesor of the UW. Compare it with KLD or UD. A compromize could be to have a article on UW and have the historical overview etc. in both articles.Electionworld 13:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure as to the legal details at the moment, but the PD is definitely trying to be more than a revamped UW. While the UW always had the image of a highbrow circle of eminent dignitaries, the PD seems to be looking at a more popular appeal. Perhaps most significantly, with Marek Belka and Jerzy Hausner joining the PD it straddles the divide between the former communist government and democratic opposition. As for UD and KLD - these parties deserve more than a redirect, too, although they were shorter-lived than the UW; as Polish parties go, the UW was close to Methuselah. Of course, any future article on the PD should include a brief retrospective on its background in the Freedom Union, with more detailed information in the main article. Have a look at the Polish articles pl:Unia Wolności and pl:Partia Demokratyczna - demokraci.pl - note the neat box entitled Nurt demokratyczno-liberalny. Including a similar box would allow us to highlight the historical context and connections of each party while doing full justice to each. What do you think? --Thorsten1 11:04, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I can agree, so you are welcome to make the edit. Electionworld 12:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, and thanks for making the template. I am still going to edit it somewhat to include years and the "original" liberal group ROAD if you don't mind. --Thorsten1 14:58, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: By the way, what does "demokraci.pl" mean? Perhaps there is someplace else we could move this article? The current title looks quite odd. - Nat Krause 03:53, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the name of the party. .pl is Poland's TLD, "demokraci" is Polish for "The Democrats". The party is officially called Partia Demokratyczna "demokraci.pl" because of some legal issues (a group of extreme far-right politicians hijacked the name Partia Demokratyczna just days before the real Democrats managed to register their party in the court). MarcoosPL 19:49, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, does anyone other than Wikipedia refer to it as "Democratic Party - demokraci.pl"? We might want to consider just keeping it in Polish in this case, since half the name is essentially untranslateable (we obviously can't make it Democratic Party - thedemocrats.com!) Other that, I think it would be better to ignore these sort of naming oddities when translating; that's what we wound up doing with the German Left Party. - Nat Krause 09:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
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