Talk:Şirvan, Azerbaijan

message: Its annoying to see all the names used to Shirvan in the intro, could we make it shorter? Baku87 (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. I've evaluated the arguments made by both sides and neither of them has provided conclusive evidence as to which name is more commonly used in recent English-language sources (what we're looking for per WP:MODERNPLACENAME).   (t · c) buidhe 20:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Şirvan, Azerbaijan →  – Move to "Shirvan, Azerbaijan" per WP:UE/WP:COMMONNAME/WP:ENGLISH. Proof of anglicized name being the common name:
Results from Google News (key terms of "city" and "Azerbaijan" used to avoid results of other places with the same name): Shirvan: 647 Şirvan: 2
Results from Google Scholar (key terms of "city" and "Azerbaijan" used to avoid results of other places with the same name): Shirvan: 1,410 Şirvan: 137
Individual reliable sources referring to city as "Shirvan" RFE/RL, JAMNews, OC Media, Carnegie Europe, EurasiaNet
This is the same name but an anglicized version. Unlike other small villages, this is a fairly large city, which has made a lot of appearances in English-language media, in most of which, "Shirvan" has been used much more, establishing its WP:COMMONNAME. I'd also like to ask the closing admin to give more attention to the arguments being made rather than the vote counts, as there are people who go over each RM and repeat unrelated policies as an "Oppose" argument. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  10:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm asking you to restrict your nom to current WP:RS per WP:NAMECHANGES, it is not "don't like it", it is Title Policy. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You're forgetting the fact that there's no name change here. That policy is for when a country changes the name of a city to a new name. We're simply anglicizing the already used native name based on the commonly used anglicisation used by major English-language media. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  10:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Please see WP:MODERNPLACENAME which also says it, perhaps more clearly; you are required to restrict your nom to current WP:RS. Financial Times World Desk Reference 2003 p.110 already moved from Soviet era Shirvan to Şirvan. This is about as reliable as World Desk Reference books get, and that was 2003. Lonely Planet Georgia, Armenia & Azerbaijan 2016 shows that the Soviet name is no longer used in travel books also "Until recently the elegant little goitered gazelle (also called the Persian gazelle or ceyran) had its last South Caucasus refuge in Azerbaijan's Şirvan National Park". Please reduce your sources to current WP:RS. This is a part of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You do realise that "Shirvan" isn't a Soviet spelling. Both WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:MODERNPLACENAME are for when the name of the city has been officially changed to a new name. This is not the case here. "Shirvan" is the same name as "Şirvan" but an anglicized version, which WP:UE tells us to use. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  12:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

text: There's no point in me repeating the policy and guideline again, so will leave it to the next editor. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 9 March 2021 

message: Why is there no data for AUGUST in the table?PAper GOL (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate section not complete