Talk:Alliance–Union universe

message: I've changed the start of the future history in the opening paragraph from the 20th to the 21st century. Ms. Cherryh's Alliance-Union Chronology  starts in 2005. It's always interesting when time catches up with future histories and what was predicted hasn't materialised. Cherryh's entry for 2005 is "First star probe launched from Sol". (Remember Arthur C. Clarke's predictions in his 1968 novel 2001: A Space Odyssey.) --Bruce1ee 12:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future history 

message: I have seen this claim, but haven't seen the logic behind it.
What timeline or Cherryh statement shows the Mri (Faded Sun trilogy) linked to the A-U timeline? --Alvestrand 22:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the question, Alvestrand.  Over the years, numerous U.S. paperback releases of Cherryh's novels from DAW Books have identified the Faded Sun series as part of the A-U universe.  My 1991 re-issue of the Faded Sun trilogy identifies them as such, for example.  Also, Cherryh's timeline in Angel With the Sword places the Mri wars in the A-U universe (pp. 259-260).  Hope that's helpful for you!  Fairsing 00:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There's also the official universes page on C J Cherryh's own website which includes the Mri under Alliance-Union, but gives Chanur its own section, and lists various stand-alones under "Miscellaneous" (Port Eternity, Voyager In Night, Wave Without A Shore, etc) http://www.cherryh.com/www/univer.htm Rmsgrey (talk) 00:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arguments for including Mri trilogy in A-U universe? 

message: Is there a definitive statement somewhere that the Foreigner series is not part of the A-U universe? It seems to be very similar in terms of technology.
Senix (talk) 04:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ms Cherryh has stated that they are not part of the same universe because they are published by different publishers (see for example here). The technology is similar, but there are subtle differences. See also these discussions, here and here. --Bruce1eetalk 06:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreigner series: relationship to the A-U universe? 

message: The passage in the future history makes this statement, but don't believe this can be true. Both books are set in the Solar System  dominated by interplanetary exploitation companies with independent space operators often cheated and exploited by corporate influence of official governmental bodies/law enforcement. The key point about the books being set before the outbreak of the company wars is the fact that the space carriers used in that war are still under construction and subject to on going issues to fully develop the technology while the craft are being built. In the latter book, the main characters are the ones who actually first pilot the ridership at full, near lightspeeds in the solar system, and in the process creating mind transfer training tape that will be used to tape train the rest of the ridership pilot corps. Clearly there are already tensions with Cyteen. The mind training tape technology is from Cyteen used to train the clones/azi. Its use to train Earth pilots is a case of adopting the Earth side actually using a taboo technology which is one of the rationales for the war in the first place. But, to the point, the Company Wars could not yet have broken out if the military ships used to pursue the war have not yet been fully developed and fielded.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.12.207 (talk) 15:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Passages in both novels make it very clear the war has all ready started, with both sides using weaponised freighters.  Also, the lead-in to "Downbelow Station" notes that the war was initially fought using the exploration ships (which were always armed) and hastily armed freighters, with the carriers coming along after.  The carriers are only just being built in "Hellburner" because, prior to the start of the war, there was no need for dedicated warships. 199.213.200.6 (talk) 15:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavytime and Hellburner Set After Start of Company Wars? 

message: Did it occur to anyone that the timeline given at http://www.cherryh.com/www/chrona1.htm to http://www.cherryh.com/www/chrona7.htm is quite a mess? I tried to transpose the text into an Excel sheet (sortable table) and found that not only, but especially info for ECS2 Valiant and ECS3 Argo are seriously inconsistent, Argo partly being sent between Sol and Beta, but overlappingly between Bryant's and Venture, too - same for Valiant, so these two ships have partly been confounded. You can find also several lines like »ECS5 Atlantis arrives at Alpha Station [SS1: Barnard's Star] from Glory Station [SS4: Ross 154]; sent to Alpha Station [SS1: Barnard's Star].«, thus »sending« a ship to its actual location. Also the Beagle/Challenger two-stage pusher first launches Olympus to Groombridge 34 (in 2080), but then establishes Eldorado at UV Ceti in 2089 an later Pell in an inaccurate timeline. Am I the first one to notice this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijuedt (talk • contribs) 20:26, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alliance / Union Timeline