Talk:Alpha Gamma Rho

message: As the criteria was changed on the Wikiproject, I changed importance to High.  I will be upgrading this article soon as it is a very low quality article.  Anyone other AGR's helping me out? Sjostrom 06:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This Washington Wine guy isn't as well known as you would like him to be, at least not enough to be in the same paragraph as J.C. Penney and Orville Redenbacher. Sjostrom 06:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, the Father of Washington Wine? Considering that Washington is the second leading producer of Wine in the US and is a major wine region in the world, Clore's importance should not be understated. He is clearly on par with with at least Orville Redenbacher. Agne 07:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about?  I could ask someone from Washington who Orville Redenbacher and J.C. Penney were.  I doubt most Washington citizens know who Clore is.  Yes he is important to agriculture, probably one of AGR's best, but there are many like him, for instance at Lambda, we have the inventor of Calf Milk-Replacer, Dr. Frank Crane.  But he is not nationally well known, much like Clore.  He can definitely be on the famous people page, but not part of the main paragraphs. Try to type these three things into Google or anything else: Penney, Redenbacher, Clore.... hmm, do you see a difference?  Anyway, that should be settled, should I add Norman Borlaug as well? Sjostrom 19:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Incorrect, people would be familiar with the brands of Orville Redenbacher and J.C. Penney and not necessarily the individuals themselves. The objective is not to list famous brands and marketing campaigns, now is it? If the objective is to list famous almuni noted for the significant contributions and achievement, then I think it is clear that the Father of Washington wine certainly merits towards the top of AGR alumni. Agne 01:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As a side note, I do support the inclusion of Borlaug in the list. As a Nobel laureate, he is certainly among AGR most distinguished. Agne 01:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your reasoning, and I understand the brand name thing.  I did get a little snippy, I apologize because we are most likely on the same team here.  The sentence was to list the "most-recognized" names. So I am sorry but I cannot support Clore's inclusion on the main page.  I was wondering if we wanted to change that sentence to "Three very recognizable names who were brothers of Alpha Gamma Rho are ..." or just delete it, I'm new here, but from what I know I don't think that would need a citation.  Sjostrom 02:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:V, it probably does need a citation. Agne 12:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: Where we're talking about cultural references with regard to films, why is there a citation needed? We have to have documentation that something is in a film. Honestly, either it's in the film, or it's not... this is a binary option. Most people wouldn't find that necessary to document, as if it's incorrect it's easily removed (as opposed to typical encyclopedic references). The issue in this case is that two people were wearing fraternity logos during filming, and this might not have been even intentional on the part of the makers of the film--which is the case when you're filming large crowds. It's there, or it's not. Requiring a citation in this case might actually be pushing a little too hard for confirmation on minutiae, and begins to push the envelope for infinite regress. As such, I'm in favor of there being no citation needed for reference within an actual film, especially where the incident in question may be accidental and not at all noteworthy for most people. The other option is to simply remove the reference altogether, because it's brief, minimal in exposure, and does not really detract from the remainder of the article by its removal. Red Heron (talk) 00:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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message: I have a COI because my company represents Alpha Gamma Rho. The current image for Alpha Gamma Rho (coat of arms) is incorrect. The scroll/banner at the bottom should not have a white background; rather, it should be dark yellow. The yellow color is also incorrect because the actual color of their mark is darker. The way it should look is shown on this page: https://greeklicensing.com/clients (third row, third column).
Cabs18 (talk) 15:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your use of requested edit. The image was loaded up by , but I am unable to find where currently on the Alpha Gamma Rho national website this image exists. I'd prefer to copy this from something directly controlled by Alpha Gamma Rho and something at a larger size. Can you give assistance on this?Naraht (talk) 17:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I undoubtedly just uploaded a version that I found on WP, made transparent, and reuploaded. Esrever (klaT) 19:01, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's hope that a good large version is available.Naraht (talk) 20:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The COI editor has not proposed a specific picture to be added, save for providing a URL of the image from a third party who is not AGR. The coat of arms as AGR displays it (one of their chapters @ MSU) may be seen here. I don't believe the coat of arms differs very much from chapter to chapter, so if that particular one is acceptable, the COI editor is urged to upload that file or any acceptable variant themselves to Wikipedia along with all appurtenant licensing information. Once this is completed, please open a new edit request here on the talk page with instructions to add the file to the article. Thank you!  spintendo  03:50, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Best image that I can off the national website is one from inside a PDF. I'll try to call them when I have a chance.Naraht (talk) 12:35, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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