Talk:Deaths in 2006/Archive 1

message: Is there any reason why the usual date order (latest shown at top) has been reversed?  JackofOz 00:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of dates reversed

message: @Gamaliel about Lassie actor http://news.google.it/news?hl=it&q=morto%20lassie&sa=N&tab=wn Clutcher 22:53, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Billy Hughes

message: There are reports that Barry Cowsill's remains were identified in Baton Rouge as one of the Katrina victims. If this is true what date will we put his death at?
Cowsill was last heard from on, and appears to have died on, September 1, 2005.  Sometimes we put (body identified) dates, but these are reserved for cases where date of death is very speculative.  Since Cowsill was found on a wharf, I think it is safe to save the flood killed him quickly. 07:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Barry Cowsill

message: Re Jeune: What's the threshhold for including horses in this necrology?  Seems to me there are lots and lots of "Cup"-winning horses that could be included, but do we really want to?  Wouldn't we then have to include names of Best in Show dogs and cats?  Call me species-ist, but I think this list should be limited to humans.  Bruxism 18:55, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This question comes up with monotonous regularity, and we go thru the debate all over again every time.  It's like recreating the wheel about 6 times a year.  There really should be a clear rule about this so that everyone knows for certain whether animals are in or out.  You can't let one horse in and exclude others.  JackofOz 20:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: In previous discussion, the consensus was that there are too few of them, per month, to bother with a separate page. Xoloz 13:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: They Shoot Horses, Don't They?

message: What's with people's egos lately?  Ariel Sharon is sick but still very much alive.  Twice now his name has been added and removed.  Can't people just wait till a guy is actually dead before adding him here?  Being the one to add a new name is really not that huge a deal.  JackofOz 10:20, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently there were silly rumours in Israel that the government are covering up his death. --Whouk (talk) 10:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought doctors said he would survive under any circumstance. Has this been changed? Or was I misinformed?- TopAce 14:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ariel Sharon

message: While everyone agrees that the deaths were very sad, none of those listed were "notable" in the sense of this encyclopedia.  If these names are kept, then I would petition for the names of everyone who has ever died in such an accident to be added to Wikipedia. --Zaphod Beeblebrox 18:27, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, if it made headlines then it gets in WikiNews and possibly the current events header...but unless we have individual articles for each of the miners, showing their role in the collapse, then there's no reason for them to be on here. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 19:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sago Mine deaths

message: Is it appropriate to start a discussion about the formating of entries, several recent ones have been confusing.
For example it reads like Baron Stratford was the minister for Sport, stroke and cerebral haemorrhage. --Gonzo 17:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Formating

message: Why is this lady listed here?  Being a notable person's grandmother is not, in itself, notable.  JackofOz 20:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Betty Hockin

message: Now I love whales as much as the next guy but is a whale really "notable?" It's kind of in the same vein as the horses eh?Galuple 01:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought the same but left it in on the grounds that it has its own full article. --Whouk (talk) 09:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Thames Whale

message: What are Rose Nader (mother of Ralph) and Alex Smith (son of Ian) doing on this list?  What did they ever do in their own right to make them notable?  JackofOz 20:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and have removed them. Cheers TigerShark 22:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I agree we shouldn't, but I recognise it'll be a 50/50 split among people's opinions...and I'd rather save my efforts for fighting against the constant US executions being listed instead. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 22:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, but the US execution listings have also been discussed amply, and are at least likewise 50/50 among the community. Xoloz 04:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Family members

message: The wikilink for Jack Taylor, who died on 2/6 and was apparently the heaviest man in Britain, directs to a disambig page (here), but none of the men listed are the Taylor who died recently.  I removed the link, but my edit was reverted.  Does this guy have an article?  I can't find it.  Is he notable enough for a mention on this page? --buck 23:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jack Taylor

message: You keep breaking the link to the original article, pointing to a disambiguation page, or pointing to an entirely different person with a similar name.  Don't remove middle initials just for the heck of it. Fan1967 19:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  User who keeps removing middle initials 

message: When an actor dies it is common to include a well known, or preferably "best known" role as part of the summary.  I notice that Darren McGavin's has been changed a few times since his death.  Unless there is a role that immediately recalls the actor and is synonymous with him or her (eg Dennis Weaver in McCloud, Bob Denver in Gilligan's Island, Don Adams in Get Smart, Elizabeth Montgomery in Bewitched etc) it should not be mentioned.  In my opinion, McGavin's best known role is Kolchak:The Night Stalker.  I don't care - that's my POV.  Christmas Story (which I've never heard of although I've followed McGavin's career with vague interest) is obviously someone else's POV.  Let's keep this sort of thing off the page - this is not a forum for voting for our favourite performances.  If there is no clear cut iconic role to mention, the name, age, profession and cause of death should suffice.  Thanks. Rossrs 09:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a big fan of Kolchak and not a fan of A Christmas Story, but CS is mentioned in every McGavin obit that I've read, often more promiently than KTNS. Last time I looked, both were mentioned, but now neither appear.  There's no harm in mentioning one or two promient roles, and is a lot more informative than "TV and movie actor". Gamaliel 09:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I stand corrected.  It is mentioned rather prominently isn't it?  Citing both, as you have, is good. Rossrs 09:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Actors and roles

message: I know it looks dire, but there has not been confirmation of his death as of yet. --Mhking 01:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kirby Puckett

message: I rm this person; while all deaths are tragic this person is not even notable enough to appear in the Lake Forest Academy article. While I'm sure someone will get around to inserting Kuhn into the article in question (perhaps quite properly), merely being mentioned in an article does not make one notable. 
Also, there is no source for this obit; Google returns zero hits for "Stephen H. Kuhn" "lake forest academy"  shot and likewise zero for "Stephen Kuhn" "lake forest academy"  shot. Well, if it did happen, it happened today, so perhaps this will change. But I still would want to see some grounds for notability. John Reid 04:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stephen Kuhn