Talk:Frankie Yale

message: Some suggest that Yale was only a capo under Joe the Boss Masseria, rather than being his own man, but I have never read any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, to support this assertion.
What we do know is that Torrio and Yale were leading members of the Five Points gang before 1908. The Five Points gang was run as an American style street gang, not a Sicilian style Mafia family.
Around 1908 Torrio and Yale moved to Brooklyn and set up operations there. 
In 1915 Torrio left New York for Chicago, leaving Yale to inherit their operations. At this time Masseria was still a soldier in the Morello family, which was then lead by Nick Morello and based in Manhatten. 
Masseria didn't become undisputed leader of the Morello family until 1922.
I have not read anything to suggest that Masseria made any attempt to gain influence over other Italian gangs before October 1928, when Toto D'Aquilla was killed, supposedly by Peter Morello. Frankie Yale was killed in July 1928, supposedly by men working for Al Capone.
To me it seems like Yale's death may have been the catalyst for Masseria's ambition to takeover.
can anyone clarify this further? Seveb 21:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who was the Boss?

message: #Anastasia was never a Yale associate...
#Joe Adonis was associated with Frankie Marlow, not Yale.
#When Lovett was killed, Vince Magano had not even entered the country yet.
#Marlow did not inherit Yale's gang, though it was rumored that he was killed by Carfano due to a debt to Yale.
this is all fake i just added this do not use wikipeadia  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.250.79.81 (talk) 01:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: General Comments

message: Sam Pollaccia and Johnny "Silk Stocking" Giustra were deleted from the mention because they are the invention of an online RPG. The New York Times has no record of their deaths or any arrests or suspicious mentions dating back as far as 1851.
Is that so?
I've had a look around, here's what I've found...
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a747766546~db=all
Buster, Maranzano and the Castellammare War, 1930-1931
"(Sam) Pollaccia, the old Masseria consigliere, lost support after Maranzano died,. but his subsequent murder never made the press since his body was ..."
Author: David Critchley - David Critchley is an independent scholar, a former hospital worker who gained degrees at the universities of Manchester, Salford and at the John Moores University in Liverpool. He was awarded his doctorate in 2003 from JMU for his study of working practices and malpractices on waterfronts. In 1984, Vance Publications released his bibliography on international organized crime.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w740103m73531213/
On the waterfront revisited: The criminology of waterfront organized crime
Journal Crime, Law and Social Change
Publisher Springer Netherlands
"Giustra was the stepbrother of John Giustra, murdered presumably by. Anastasia and/or Mangano, Sr., in 1931. Strife between the two overlapping ..."
http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Newspaper/BSU/1931.Death.May.html
11/05/1931
FOUR MURDERS, SAFE LOOTING IN CRIME FLARE
Taxi Driver, Laundry Gangster, Bootlegger, Union Leady Shot
Four racket murders and a wave of violence and safe looting in Brooklyn
presented a new crime puzzle for police to-day. Two of the murder victims were Brooklyn men.  
One, John LUQUORI*, taxi driver and cement worker of Gravesend, who once ran a roadhouse, 
we"nt for a ride.  His body, only two hours dead, was found to-day bullet-riddled and
trussed in a laundry sack in an ice truck abandoned in a Wallabout side street.
Silk Stocking Johnny GUISTRA was a Brooklyn laundry racketeer with ambitions.  
His body was found in the hallway of a Manhattan tenement.
His own pearl-handled pistol lay beside it.  It hadn't been fired.
Walter FOWLER, labor foreman and member of the wire lath union, had a conference at his home in Manhattan with four men and was found murdered on
the stoop of a nearby tenement.
Anthony BUONACOSI, an alleged bootlegger, met a bullet in a Manhattan candy store.
Police arrested Joseph SCELZO, a Sanitation Department employe, and questioned him about BUONACOSI.  This was the only arrest in the four killings.
Seveb 23:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Johnny Giustra & Sam Pollaccia? You Be The Judge

message: On an unrelated note most of the organzied crime entries on Wikipedia need to be fixed. An example on this page would be the myth that Frankie Yale was head of the Unione Sicilliana which is impossible since records dating back to Yale's entry to the country lists him as being Calabrian. These pages have a lot of people not doing research and quoting "authors" who also didn't do their research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.252.167 (talk • contribs) 
I have to agree with this as a general comment, but things will improve over time.
Regarding the specific issue of whether or not Yale was head of the Unione Sicilliana, here are a couple of things to consider ; -
Immigration records which show Yale as Calabrian,
1) Could Yale have been born in Calabria of Sicilian parents? 
For example Carlos Marcello was born in Tunisia, but was still racially Sicilian and able to lead the New Orleans Mafia.
2) As it is unlikely that any New York Mafioso of the twenties was in the habit of perusing the immigration records, would it have been possible for Yale to pass himself off as Sicilian?
He was a powerful and feared figure at the time, who would want to argue with him?
Seveb 00:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy

message: Frankie Yale is always linked to the battle between the Mafia and the "White hand" Irish for control of the waterfront. The final "showdown" with the White handers is said to have occurred at the Adonis Social club, run by Joe Adonis, doesn't that suggest a link between the two?
Weren't Yale and Marlow close associates?Seveb 00:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 Joe Adonis 

message: I've just been reading "The Big Bankroll" by Leo Katcher, a book about Arnold Rothstein, and in it Frankie Marlow's name crops up as often as those of Dwyer, Madden, Yale, Luciano or Costello and yet he doesn't have a page in Wikipedia and is very hard to find mention of on the web full stop. Why is that?Seveb 00:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's Frankie Marlow?

message: I read Vince Mangano arrived in the United States in 1922 and Lovett was killed on Halloween 1923, is that not correct? Seveb 21:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 Vince Mangano 

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message: This needs to be revised, it almost reads like a novel. 'Hard eyed men'sounds ridiculos and since whn does  tommy gun fire buckshot?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.97.187 (talk) 12:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto. "A shotgun blast struck the Brooklyn gang boss on the left side of the head while a submachine gun bullet sliced through his brain. Either wound would have killed Yale instantly. The now out-of-control Lincoln veered to the right, hopped the curb, and crashed into the stoop of a brownstone at No. 923." It's awful. EEng 12:45, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Days 

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