Talk:Aesthetics of music

message: I have created list of aesthetic principles of music.  Input welcome, including ideas for a better title. Tuf-Kat 02:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New list 

message: How does this article not represent a worldwide view? Hyacinth 19:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tag removed. Hyacinth (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Worldwide view

message: A little strange that he wouldn't even be mentioned on this page... especially considering The Birth of Tragedy, The Case of Wagner, and Nietzsche contra Wagner... 195.241.204.22 (talk) 10:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Friedrich Nietzsche

message: Not an anti-formalist. See War of the Romantics.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.94.192 (talk) 00:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Schumann

message: Why, what, where, and how does this article need cleanup? Hyacinth (talk) 21:20, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Tag removed. Hyacinth (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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thread_title:  removing POV tag with no active discussion per [[Template:POV]] 

message: Hello all,
I think this article could be improved in the following ways (and in the order stated to help with structure):
A) I believe there should be a better introduction rather than diving in with 'In the pre-modern tradition...'. 
i) Aesthetics of music - an activity exploring what beauty, taste, judgement etc are in relation to music. 
ii) Then state that the (academic) activity is almost exclusively derived from Western/European thought, its history: the pre-modern era inherited from Plato blah blah...
iii) I would also recommend stating that a given society and its structure will influence how we discuss aesthetics of music . At the moment it is assumed that we are talking about all music from all of time. I don't believe we would do the same about literature or oral traditions; we assess them taking account of their own sociocultural context. As society changes, culture changes, music changes and the way we think about music changes. Industrial age clearly affected music, as did the mp3 etc.
B) Clearly structure the history of aesthetics of music: Plato - Kant - Hanslick - Nietzsche - Adorno (maybe W. Benjamin as well) - postmoderns like Barthes - contemporary scholars like Frith whom I agree is a fantastic academic and Daniel Albright (Untwisting the Serpent was recommended to me by my lecturers for its scope and point of view)
C) Mention key contemporary literature, up-to-date theories or approaches etc.
D) clearer links to other areas of study such as musicology, cognition, aesthetics, philosophy etc.
Please tell me what you think. I hope to make changes in the coming week, preferrably with input from others.
ConBlanchet (talk) 13:27, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amending whole article 

message: Without an introduction about culturally established tunings as possibly an example of cultural expectations of beauty the sentences about tunings and tone are non-sequesters and just stand as curious historical statements about musical experimentation that say nothing anything about musical aesthetics.
 "Harry Partch and some other musicologists, such as Kyle Gann, have studied and tried to popularize microtonal music and the usage of alternate musical scales. Also many modern composers like La Monte Young, Rhys Chatham and Glenn Branca paid much attention to a system of tuning called just intonation."
PAHSeattle (talk) 22:40, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate Tunings, Microtones etc.