Talk:Portland Vase

message: * e reportedly used "new adhesives" for this restoration, which some thought might be epoxy resins or shellac, but were later discovered to simply be the same type of animal glue that Doubleday used in 1845. He also filled some areas with wax. No documentation of his work was produced.[citation needed]
If there is no citation, where did this information come from? Lng93 (talk) 03:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Source needed

message: I've seen several sources claim 'William Lloyd' was a pseudonym given to the authorities rather than the real name of the person who smashed the vase in 1845. Could anyone more familiar with the subject clarify this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.45.123 (talk) 18:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: William Lloyd?

message: Did he have mental health issues? I recall reading about the vase in the Ward Lock guide "London 1928", which states dramatically "It was smashed to atoms by a lunatic called Lloyd".Cloptonson (talk) 12:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Cloptonson, that appears to be exaggeration; he was probably just drunk. According to Painter & Whitehouse 1990, on occasion of the second reconstruction in 1949, the Sunday Times referred to him as "a lunatic". However, shortly after his arrest is was noted that "There was something strange in his looks and manner at the first examination, but yesterday we could trace nothing in either to justify in the smallest degree that his mental faculties are deranged." He himself stated that "I certainly broke the vase, and all I can say in extenuation of my conduct is, that I had been indulging in intemperance for a week before, and was then only partially recovered from the effects which that indulgence had produced upon my mind. I was suffering at the time from a kind of nervous excitement—a continual fear of everything I saw; and it was under this impression, strange as it may appear, that I committed the act for which I was deservedly taken into custody at the Museum." It is also suggested that he was examined by "medical gentlemen", but that "it appeared from their report that there was not the slightest reason for doubting the perfect sanity of the individual". I would guess that he was drunk when he smashed it, and then sobered up by the time of his confession. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I had not heard of the investigation, and the account I read clearly preceded the reconstruction by over 20 years. However drink and bad mental health are sometimes bad mixers. The 'nervous excitement' about everything suggests a form of paranoia. (I am not a mental health practitioner.)Cloptonson (talk) 09:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Mental health

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message: Does anyone with familiarity of the literature on this vase have any idea if :File:John Doubleday with the Portland Vase.jpg was ever published before 1989? Trying to get the copyright sorted out for the FA nomination of John Doubleday (restorer). The earliest publication of the photograph I'm aware of is in Nigel Williams's 1989 book, but it's possible it's also in an earlier work on the vase. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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message: Where does Portland Vase get its name from? Citations, please? Misty MH (talk) 09:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggest you read the article! Johnbod (talk) 14:01, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where does Portland Vase get its name from?