Talk:Death to the Daleks

message: Stub created at temp page Tim! (talk) 10:21, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Nothing at the End of the Lane 2 contains the true story on the recovery, as part of Richard Molesworth's revisiting and updating his previous articles on the archive holdings. Back in about 1998/1999 this story first came out on rec.arts.drwho when the Restoration Team members admitted there had been a cover story that was now no longer needed. Timrollpickering 16:42, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, ok. My original source for adding it was the original Archive Holdings articles from 1997 , which have been updated a bit since then, adding stuff like The Lion and Day of Armageddon, but still feature the Amateur Television Society story. BillyH 22:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For a web source I've just checked the Google archives and there are two threads on this. This one from October 1998 corrected my assumption that the batch of videotapes was returned from Kuwait in 1993 (an article on the web had had the wrong info) and there are a few hints dropped (blatant in hindsight) that an episode might have been recovered from there. This thread from November 1999 saw the cover story dropped since the relevant people were no longer at the BBC. Timrollpickering 01:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fascinating!  But it's not clear from the links exactly why the cover story was needed in the first place.  Can that be told, or is it still verboten? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Nothing at the End of the Lane, the "junior member of staff (who we'll call Mr X)" who spotted the tapes and found episode one of Death "didn't want to start throwing around accusations of incompetence" (i.e. that loads of money was spent to bring the tapes home, then leaving them in an external store in the rain and that they were to be disposed of without either checking to see if they contained any missing/superior quality material or informing the BBC Archive) and so smuggled out the one relevant tape (before anyone asks the collection didn't include Planet of the Daleks episode 3 - this is referenced multiple times). In turn a cover story was needed to hide Mr X's identity. Timrollpickering 02:17, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah!  So the story was to protect the innocent (Mr. X) rather than the guilty (his superiors).  And the "relevant people" who are no longer at the BBC — would those be Mr. X or his superiors? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no idea - but they wouldn't necessarily have even been his own superiors. The BBC structure is notoriously convoluted. I'd presume the "relevant people" would be whoever was responsible for doing bugger all with the tapes but that's mere speculation. Timrollpickering 11:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 1 recovery 

message: Hello to all you good Dr Who wikipedians. There is a note here claiming that this story is the last time we see the original console. There is a note just like it in the note section for Inferno. Thus, one of these mentions must be in error, or at least referring to different console models. Unfortunately, all of my Dr Who reference books are in storage at the moment so I come to you in the hopes that one of you will be able to clear this up. MarnetteD | Talk 03:58, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick check of About Time reveals that Inferno was the last time we saw the original console. Now, About Time is known for the occasional factual error, but I believe in this case it is correct because by the time of The Three Doctors, the Second Doctor notes the redecoration of the console room, and the console controls have been changed around enough that he isn't quite sure how to operate it. Death to the Daleks takes place after that. I'll remove the note from here. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 14:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

text: If you look at the TARDIS Console in Inferno, you can see it's a pale green colour. This was so it would not appear too bright on the black and white film that the eras of the first two Doctors were filmed in. Obviously when the series was filmed in colour from Season 7 on, the console could be a white colour.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newrynyuck (talk • contribs) 16:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Last use of the original TARDIS console

message: I noticed this in the continuity section.  
"This is the only other story (next to Daleks in Manhattan) where the Daleks do not fire their energy weapon..."
Daleks in manhattan is not a story, it is an episode in a two part story in the same way that episode one of this story was only one part of the story.  In other dalek "episodes" such as  "The daleks" episode 1 and "Dalek invasion of earth" episode 1 the weapons are not fired, but they are fired in other episodes of the story.  I feel that this  statement should be reverted back to "This is the only story where the Daleks do not fire their energy weapon..."
StuartDD 20:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daleks in Manhattan is not a Dalek story 

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message: This mentions that the original VHS release contained the only copy of part 1 available - minus it's opening scene. On the 1987 video, the opening scene was there. --82.0.207.86 (talk) 09:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 1 

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