Talk:Kanye West/Archive 1

message: This is another example of people trying really hard to slip their POV into a wikipedia article, but veiling it with enough skill so that no one has the guts to delete it: "many found it a malpractice to award a hip-hop artist for lyrics [to "jesus walks"] he did not in fact write himself." Although it is highly questionable whether "many found" this to be a "malpractice," even if this were the case, I could say with confidence that these people are not intelligent enough, let alone objective enough, to have their opinions included on this page. In other words, these people are deliberately ignoring how the Grammies work in order to criticize Kanye West. Newsflash: Grammies are awarded to whoever received writing credit for the song; hip-hop producers almost always receive a writing credit; even if Rhymefest wrote ALL the lyrics (which I don't believe is the case), West still got a writing credit because he produced the song and performed it. Furthermore, I understand how some hip-hop fans think that lyrics are like these incredibly important things that you can automatically criticize people for no matter what, but the music is at least as important and in the case of Kanye West, more important to a certain extent (i.e., he produces his own music, etc.). So this is a blatantly POV inclusion; it's like the people who write on the Jay-Z page, to paraphrase, "many have accused Jay-Z of stealing other people's lyrics, greatly compromising his standing as an MC" which isn't technically untrue, but it's an esoteric POV from a highly biased minority. In this case, people who say that he shouldn't have gotten the award and that it was "malpractice" don't understand how grammies and writing credits work. I understand that some people think this--but these people clearly don't know what they are talking about, so why include their opinions prominently on this page? Look up a list of songs that have won Grammies and many, possibly even most of them, have multiple writers who aren't performers.
:This being said, I have heavily qualified the inclusion about the Rhymefest "controversy." I checked out the link provided, and it went to a site describing the (completely unsubstantiated) accusations by some Blog writer who is clearly biased and mostly annoyed at the fact that Kanye West is boastful (as if this has anything to do with writing credits). People seem not to understand the legal way these things work, and the business of publishing songs is like this for a reason. Furthermore, this whole thing directly contradicts the article on the song itself, which states that the music (production) and lyrics were written in collaboration. The Grammy is awarded to a certain SONG and then the physical awards themselves are given to whoever appears in the writing credits. The Grammy is given based on the merits of the tune, irrespective of whether or not the performer co-wrote it or not, and this is one of the most common practices in the music industry--collaborative writing. The music is important, not just the lyrics--people don't seem to realize this. Seeing as the lyrics and music of this song are inseperable, and that the official sources seem to imply it was a collaborative effort, and that the co-writer did receive credit, and that there is no evidence to support the claim that Rhymefest was behind even a majority of the song (other than the vague whinings of highly-biased Kanye West watchdogs), it seems like this inclusion was one of the greatest scams I have ever seen on wikipedia that has gone unchallenged. Jesus, these sort of smear tactics are incredibly annoying; if you dislike Kanye West, I don't see why you would feel compelled to try to spoil his already controversial name on an open internet encyclopedia site; just don't buy his records.
::i don't know anything about kanye west vs rhymefest, and don't really care either, but- why so angry about this? i don't see how it's esoteric or highly biased to be surprised that someone would be rapping about themselves in someone else's words. one of the prime features of hiphop has often been ego and individualism -- hence rap battles, for example. it varies by genre -- think of the old motown hit factory, and think of the response if it came out that nirvana hadn't written any of their own songs.
also, regardless of how much some people may or may not know what they're talking about, if it is any sort of significantly held opinion, it should be included on that basis. i don't know if this is or not, but be aware that an idea being incorrect is not a reason for its removal, as long as it is presented as an idea and not a fact. --dan 01:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "After this interview, he drove home in his benz, followed by his entourage of homeys, who drove in their Bentleys, all bought by West, who is clueless to the fact that if his money was gone, his "friends" would be gone too." RuminationZ 06:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Fixed.  E. Sn0 =31337= Talk 07:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculous Inclusion 

message: One aspect of Kanye's work that I never see discussed or have understood is his obsession with higher education.  Obviously, I get the fact that he dropped out of college, but why does it figure so prominently in his album artwork, skits and tracks?  In fact, in several of skits in "The College Dropout" he seems to be very anti-higher education.  Is this just a humorous crack at his past?  Is it a defence against potential attacks at him for not having any street-cred with other blacks since he is a (partially) college educated, upper-middle class black?  Is the bear-mascot prominently shown on the cover of both albums an alter-ego for Kanye?  Is it supposed to represent some sort of alienation or sepearation that he feels?  From what I have seen on television and heard on radio, these motifs do not seem to be a part of his public persona -- does Kanye have a "position" on higher education?  If not, it seems like an awful lot of work for a throwaway theme. 69.174.71.38 16:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He failed college, which is why he dropped out of it. For him, I suppose, college represents a superfluous part of a person's life, unnecessary for success, since he's a college dropout and now a millionaire. Of course, nobody ever heard high school dropout Notorious BIG or Frank Sinatra decry the woes of higher education, because their mothers weren't teachers at the schools they went to. Kanye also worked many fruitless part time jobs, such as a Gap salesman, so you could make it even more complex and attribute it to his wish to actually finish college. Alas, Kanye didn't, dropped out, made lots of beats, got rich, and finally established a platform for himself to peddle his propaganda. C'est la vie. --Mod 00:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I think he's not being so much anti-education as he is satirical of it. If you've listened to the Jeanious Mixtapes (which are excellent BTW) he has a slightly less caustic tone about the matter. Additionally the album Late Registration is set in a college setting, with Kanye returning to class, Fraternities, and others such interesting topics. I dunno though, I've been wrong once, it could happen again. -- Dragoonmac - If there was a problem yo I'll solve it 00:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry I dont have the source on hand, but I distinctly remember Kanye West once mentioning that "College may be an choice, but high school is a must". He mentioned his statement at a fundraiser raising money to allow urban youth to stay in school. Thus, Kanye has forgone the option of college in his life, but recognizes that is may be a viable option for others. -- Atlien 14:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Judging by the name of his 2007 upcoming album, he's still into that. I dunno, the experience must have influenced him, and he wants to show his feelings of the matter. What happens when he graduates? Heaven only knows.Bwanaunsignedhype 22:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-Education? 

message: This page really needs to be rewritten, or severely copy edited. It sounds like it was written by a 7th grader. It's fraught with POV and extranaeous info.
I could clean it up, but I don't know enough about the subject to do it properly. googuse 15:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for rewrite 

message: Can someone change the link of the video of Kanye West on NBC to a page that is not some sort of ad-page?
Other copies of the videos can be fond here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html#a4762
Hey I am looking for the contact address for GOOD music Kanye's label if anyone knows it please email to hubertrobersonjr@yahoo.com.
extremely biased no?
--Thirdbane 04:31, 2004 Mar 28 (UTC)
When Kanye West was born ?
Also, where did he grow up SPECIFICALLY?
::He grew up among this black middle class in south side chicago.  For more info read the Time article on him.
:::There are reports that he spent some time in China as a child, attributed to an NME article, but I am unable to find much more than that.  Any help would be appreciated. 05 Jan 06
Freshmen Adjustment shouldn't be under 'Studio Albums'
I removed Freshmen Adjustment from 'Studio Albums' and put it in 'Compilations'
--Pointyfingers 22:17, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it appears on the official Billboard charts as "Kanye West featuring Jamie Foxx" --Musicpvm 05:51, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: For people who add to the Production Discography, Can you please keep it in order of release DATE, not just by year of release, except the Unreleased/Misc section which should be in alphabetical order of artist Scottf9 23:53, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: yea it does, but don't take any of the info out, there's so much here. --Pointyfingers 22:17, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production discography 

message: "Somewhat surprisingly, he did not go home with the Best New Artist Grammy (which instead went to Maroon 5); this snub was a repeat of the shut-out he received at the 2004 American Music Awards, where he lost to Gretchen Wilson." This line definitely simply reflects the author's opinion on Kanye's music over Maroon 5's and Wilson's. I'm editing that line out, as I believe few woud think that Wilson and Maroon 5's achievements were the result of a deliberate snubbing or shutting-out of Kanye. -Josh, 13:44 EST, August 15 2005
However, I do think there should be something in the article about his legendary tantrums.
When Best New Artist went to Gretchen Wilson at the 2004 AMAs (14 Nov 2004), he really melted down.  West said, "I do not apologise to Dick Clark or the AMAs because you should not have had me perform and have me nominated for so many awards but not have an award.  I'm one of those guys that's like all new artists, 'Oh, I just believe that everything is on the up-and-up' and now I see with some of those other award show that it's not." {Stephenpace 19:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammy Awards 

message: G.O.O.D. Music
Wait... Is it "GOOD Music" or "G.O.O.D. Music"?? As far as I know it is G.O.O.D. Music but there is no official site as of yet. I was under the impression that it was "G.O.O.D. Music" but I've seen it as GOOD elsewhere. --Scottf9 11:32, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  GOOD Music??? 

message: I deleted the following lines:
"Even though Mr. West makes millions, and talks about helping the poor in Africa.  He has not spoken out about helping our own people, The United States, and the people of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina."
I read it as a POV statement. Plus who does the "our own people" refer to. Perhaps it can be later added but with different language/tone. Akamad 02:13, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
:I think they were referring to this video where he makes an ass of himself during the Katrine Red Cross fundraiser: http://thebqhaps.com/random/KanyeBenefit.wmv  --I am not good at running 02:06, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed POV statement about hurricane 

message: I added the POV template because this article has been vandalized repeated. Psy guy (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: POV tag is not used for vandalism. See an administrator to have the page locked if you wish, or report it at Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. --Howrealisreal 20:47, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry I used the wrong tag.  I have listed article on Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. Psy guy (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: I honestly dont think Kanye West should be referred to as a "LGBT Activist" just because of some comments in an interview... --Shawn88 23:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Out the category goes. --FuriousFreddy 23:31, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT Activist????? 

message: Looks like the pronunciation of Kanye (KAHN-yay) got broken by a legitimate edit by Sonjaa.  This should be fixed once vandalism slows down. Dukiebbtwin 00:23, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Pronunciation 

message: why was the page locked? i added a sample section since he uses so many samples. it'd be a good place to put which songs he samples. is that why it got protected? jaysscholar
*It was listed at Vandalism in progress. Your edit was likely not the cause - West's comments about Bush have caused a bit of a surge in angry Bush-lovers ranting on this page. We've had a few anons blocked, but don't worry, it's not your fault. I don't like your sample idea though...Harro5 04:20, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
*whats wrong with my sample idea? he does a lot of them so we should keep track. it be a nice way to know all his samples--Jaysscholar 04:27, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page lock 

message: Kanye's single "Jesus Walks" did came in reality. --198.31.230.89 
* huh? --Shawn88 05:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  About his single "Jesus Walks" and "Punk'd" 

message: Late Registration debuts at #2 in the UK Albums Chart. secfan 12:56, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
* Source? --Shawn88 13:04, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  late registration 

message: I think it would be more solid an article if everything in the political views section was sourced. 
Also I think that adding a line about his views on blood diamonds is very appropriate for this section. One of his newest videos “Diamonds From Sierra Leone” deals with the issue. It's rare that a hip-hop artist makes such a strong statement with one if their videos. I think the video can be viewed on this page --Fluxaviator 04:55, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources + diamonds 

message: I just wanted to ask if you guys can add in that his album, Late Registration reached #1 in the Billboard US charts if you don't believe me then go to billboard.com. 24.90.128.71 02:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  #1 Album 

message: He was not. That article heavily exaggurated it. --Shawn88 10:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Thunderous Boos" 

message: The Gold digger remix is unrelated to Kanye West, it isn't relevant. --213.106.129.169
:It was influenced by West's comments so I think it should be mentioned. --Jaysscholar 22:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold Digger 

message: was sold in 2003 not 2004
"(this title was inspired by his one year stint in a Chicago art school)" ...idiot, he dropped out of two colleges actually. I removed it anyway. --Shawn88 15:16, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Shawn, I love the fact that you are keeping vigilant watch over this page, but please refrain from using personal attacks. Yes, there are a lot of factual disparities in this article, and I very much appreciate your hawk-eyes on this subject, but please be be civil. Thank you, Mysekurity  e-mail 00:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree --Jaysscholar 03:38, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

text: "After graduating from Polaris High School, West dropped out of art school and then left Chicago State University to pursue music full-time", shawn, both of you may havebeen right. he dropped out of an art school then chi state http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_8_59/ai_n6047908--Jaysscholar 03:41, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  college dropout 

message: Thank you, Willy on Wheels, for informing me of the articles status. Chainlinking2005 16:48, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tags 

message: Currently, the article has this quote: "After the awards ceremony, West criticized the music industry as he only won 3 of the 10 awards, and he felt he deserved all of them."  Could someone elaborate on this, preferably with a source and an exact quote?  --LostLeviathan 21:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of the music industry 

message: Added the information of him performing at Santa Monica High School. I was wondering why it was never added it all! --SkinnerIJA 00:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perfomance at SAMOHI 

message: http://www.mixunit.com/secondsemester.html
It has some unrealeased tracks on there. but it also has some old stuff. should it be mentioned??--Jaysscholar 05:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Semester 

message: i've seen him spell his name "kanYe West".  is that official?--Jaysscholar 20:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His album covers do that and some authors do that as well, but it's not important. "Kanye" outweighs "KanYe" by a landslide. --Mod 04:23, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling 

message: Also known as Shazzle.
I've never heard this. Removing until we get a source.--Jaysscholar 07:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  shazzle 

message: Isn't there a wikipedia style suggestion somewhere not to use this word because of the likelihood it won't be understood by those outside the US reading?
"On August 30th, 2005, Kanye West released his sophomore album Late Registration." (Biography section)
Steve-Ho 08:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For all those concerned with what "sophomore" might mean (as if www.dictionary.com is too hard to type in), it means second. --Mod 00:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sophomore 

message: It may be interesting to include some brief info on Kanye's parents, it is fairly common knowldege that his mother was a professor and department chair (and is now his manager), and I read in a Chicago Sun-Times interview that his father was a member of the Black Panther party at one time.--Msr69er 08:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Similarly, does anyone know why his father took his mother's surname when he married, rather than the other way around? --MartinUK 16:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info about parents 

message: I've added Late Orchestration under the albums header. This appears to be a UK-only release. See the Amazon UK product page if you've never heard of this. If no one creates an album page, I'll get around to it later. quadratic 01:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Late Orchestration 

message: I'm from Phoenix, AZ and I saw the comment "George Bush doesn't care about black people" on television during the speech, but this article claims that it was removed before it reached the west coast.  I know I saw it, because I was watching the whole concert, and I was only half paying attention until I heard Kanye start his impassioned speech.  I cheered, and Kanye's status in my mind jumped tenfold.  Then he said those very true 7 words.
* it is not an error. It can be verified with a google search the it was edited as it was spreading west. Pinkstarmaci 04:31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake about comments concerning George Bush 

message: can someone put something about kanye and fashion? particularly about how vanity fair named him the best dressed male of the year  I'm not sure where it would go --Shawn88 03:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  kanye and fashion 

message: Is this section really necessary? Most of them are barely notable and are not even directly affiliated with Kanye. Shawn88 22:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixtapes 

message: This article is in dire need of a cleanup of some sort.  The mixtap covers and guest appearences seem really unnecesary, and there should be a picture of him at the top.
*i support the removal of the mixtape section and guest appearances Shawn88 01:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: i dont think thats a very good picture, its not very clear at all, plus something doesnt look right about it Shawn88 01:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: Why is there no mention of his highly controversial statements during the hurricane Katrina Red Cross telethon?
74.108.47.35 08:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Katrina 

message: It says under 2006 and Kanye's MTV European Awards that there's been a discussion about how it should be worded to maintain nuetrality, but I don't see any disucission. Anyway, I think the following could be added:
"If I don't win, the awards show loses credibility," West said.
~ UBeR 23:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  European controversy 

message: Add this please:
Freshmen Adjustment (2005)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.186.238 (talk) 03:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Disography 

message: Anybody think he's from Kenya West, thats why his name is Kanye West(the e and a are switched)
Um...NO.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.232.26 (talk) 23:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what kinda name is THAT? 

message: Why is there no mention of this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.95.224 (talk) 04:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persistent Gay Rumors 

message: change the picture, its pretty crap. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.129.223.173 (talk) 16:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: All albums/mixtapes etc were part of the section on hurricane katrina. didnt really make sense to me so i put them in their own "discography section". 138.217.179.154 06:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: I think it is ridculous that there are now more facts for 2007 than for the whole 2006
some of this facts are very uninterresting!!!And for 2006 there not enough...! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.73.63.106 (talk) 14:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ridicoulus 

message: West recently stated that dana was "a white girl I'd take to the mosque."  Is "take to the mosque" some sort of slang expression or has he become a Muslim? 68.40.65.164 02:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "White girl I'd take to the mosque" 

message: The article is a bit of a mess in places, needing copy-editing and formatting; also, the lists are (where called for at all, in non-standard format. --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 20:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: Why is this article defaced with Lil Wayne facts and tidbits? Specifically in the 2007 section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.231.241.14 (talk) 03:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lil Wayne? 

message: Some information about this artiste could be obtained from the following reference:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2005-08-21-kanye-main_x.htm
It's interesting to note that Kanye sets his standards with reference to Stevie Wonder's Innervisions and Songs in the Key of Life. Incredibly ambitious considering the quality of his output so far. AppleJuggler 01:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A reference for Kanye West 

message: I've removed "six-time Grammy Award-winning" from the lead sentence.  Since it's been removed before, I should probably explain.  West is known primarily for his production and music, not for his Grammy Awards.  Information like this violates WP:NPOV when in the lead sentence; we wouldn't say "Kanye Omari West is an American record producer and rapper who called George Bush racist".  Detailed information like this should be included later in the lead, so feel free to add that he has won six Grammys later in the lead, if a source is provided (since there don't appear to be any in the text of the main article).  ShadowHalo 13:38, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammy Award-winning 

message: I am unable to remove this as a newly registered user, but someone has placed the name and address of  a supposed paedophile in the article. I have no idea if the gentleman in question is an actual paedophile, but I think it definitely has no place in the article. I've marked the section I think needs to be removed in bold.
2002–2004
On October 23, 2002, Kanye was involved in a car crash after falling asleep at the wheel while driving home from the recording studio. The crash left his jaw fractured in three places, and he barely survived.[citation needed] Although (Removed per policy.) is a pedphile (Removed per policy.) be warned faced with many adversities and therapy, Kanye was inspired by life itself and what it now had to offer.[citation needed]''
Hopefully someone can sort this out asap. Celestethepirate 10:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a Wikipedia article on (Removed per policy.) , although it is likely unrelated to this edit. I did a quick Google search, and a found a person's Bebo account wih the same name. The person lists "Kanye West" as an artist he likes to listen to. The edit was probably just some vandalism/joke from a friend. Although there is a very small change that the person could actually be a pedophile...   — ThreeDee912 (talk) 01:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reporting the address and name of a supposed paedophile 

message: update sales to 14 september : http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5705/title.50-cent-still-confident-although-well-behind
718 k   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.88.98.241 (talk) 13:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it qualify as "controversy"?  If Kanye himself had threatened to eat the first born of every person in China, that would be controversial.  One mainline artist crying that he may quit if he gets beat hardly fills the requirement.--Koncorde 20:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on 50 Cent/Kanye Controversy 

message: I would like the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine with Him on it saying "The Passion of Kanye West", which is obviously make fun of not only The Passion of the Christ but also Jesus, God, Christians everywhere, since this was a big controversal thing in the Christian Community.--Hornetman16 (talk) 19:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it obviously making fun of Jesus, God and Christians everywhere?  Or is it simply people 'wanting' to take offence.  If you can cite this "Christian community" and its outrage, then put it in yourself.--Koncorde 20:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Biast much?--Hornetman16 (talk) 20:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's "bias".  But I've no idea as to why you'd presume I was.  I'm merely critical of anything that presumes to talk for any single "community".--Koncorde 18:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Does this for for ya?--Hornetman16 (talk) 21:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it really a balanced article?  Are the responses verifiable in the Feedback section?  Something such as this is probably more balanced, independent and introduces a response by the Catholic League, whilst also discussing other artists use of similar imagery (as have thousands before him).  A vote such as this (whilst open to abuse) is independently verifiable (however it includes a 'vote counter' that doesn't actually work...).  Seperate Associated Press piece here with no apparent bias.  Whilst this supplies a counter-part to the clarkyboy piece with people who couldn't give a monkeys about what 'imagery' he may be evoking.  Meanwhile a Christian here makes a pretty strong point about the fact that it's all meaningless. etc etc.  In the end, you raise the point, you should cite it and put it in rather than waiting on someone else if you think you can back it up in a fair and neutral fashion.--Koncorde 18:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: HUH?!?!--Hornetman16 (talk) 02:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't think that was particularly hard to explain.  but to put it even more simply - finding a pro-Christian site with critical comments by anonymous or otherwise unverifiable users does not a citation make.--Koncorde 11:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's some.   Is that good enough for ya?--Hornetman16 (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One of which I gave to you already.  The other will be fine so long as its authoratative.  Again though, the point is that it's not for me or anyone else to do this on your behalf - if you can cite it then do it.  The second however does just quote activist groups who have their own personal vested interest in the subject.  Not that there's anything wrong with that, but a counterpoint would make the insert more valid--Koncorde 09:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I dont understand what you actually want. You say "I would like the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine with Him on it..." You would like a picture? or something about it in his article? Thanks--¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 08:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Both actually. The words in the article to tell about it and the cover to illistrate.--Hornetman16 (talk) 12:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont have the magazine, sorry. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 18:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Google. It does wonders:  -- Ben 21:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: GO BEN!!!--Hornetman16 (talk) 03:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other controversy 

message: I removed from the intro the word "record" 6 grammys as this is untrue. Michael Jackson won 8 grammys for the Thriller album alone . The 6 grammys that west did win for this COMBINED 2 albums needs a source. Realist2 11:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  record 6 grammys 

message: "West's mascot and trademark is a teddy bear, which has appeared on the covers of his three albums as well as the single cover for his song "Stronger.""
Picture of cover of "College Dropout"
Check the definition - dictionary.com. Technically its a person in a bear costume; though I am inclined to believe "furry" may be more fitting than mascot. Furry is more a slang term I grant you, but perhaps we can find a more fitting word than mascot. I think a citation is necessary for this being his "trademark" as I can't find any information to back that up. Cbruscato 22:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not always a person in the suit.  "Late Registration" for instance is just a stuffed bear.--Koncorde 01:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As for citing the "mascot"   and the ever present --Koncorde 11:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teddy Bear? 

message: I thought that since Kanye is an American, the article would be in American English. Why is it in British English?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.135.94 (talk) 23:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  British English? 

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I'm pretty sure that all Wiki articles are supposed to be American English, but if somebody from Canada or Australia or the UK (or most other English speaking countries, I suppose) is editing it, they may forget or not know. Just change it to American English if you encounter it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.187.114 (talk) 04:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't wiki reccomend British English? I'm pretty sure it does...!  Udonknome 18:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It includes "(soccer)" because of controversy with American Football. Even though the real football is more entertaining. Woop-Woop That's the sound of da Police 19:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

text: See WP:ENGVAR.  "The English Wikipedia has no general preference for a major national variety of the language. No variety is more correct than the others."  And also "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation."  Since Kanye is an American, it seems this particular article should be in American English, but Wikipedia, in general, does not recommend either American English or British English. Chuck (talk) 21:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headline text 

message: Kanye West named all of his albums in 2003 - should we therefore add "Good Ass Job" as his upcoming album or do you want me to find a source for that first? -- RomanZayus 03:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future Discography 

message: november 2007 it has just been released that donda west kanye wests loving mom died
::::: someone needs to add that his mom died. its on msn.com 11-11-07 7:22 pm est  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.69.78 (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mom 

message: In reference to Kanye West's fiancé's name...
 
You have her name as Alexis Rainey. It is actually Alexis Phifer. See source (http://www.harpersbazaar.com/fashion/fashion-articles/fashionable-life-west-0807).  Thank you.  Done::  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.94.79.85 (talk) 03:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiance's name 

message: In his official site his name is spelled as kanYe West  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biff The Marine Biologist (talk • contribs) 13:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See MOS:CAPS#Mixed or non-capitalization. Chuck (talk) 21:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: "Throughout his career, West has seen his fair share of trials and tribulations, all of which result from him being black.[14] A fine example of this is when he (black) didn't get to perform on the main stage for the MTV VMAs when Justin Timberlake (white) did. West also stated the obvious when he said that "George Bush doesn't care about black people" due to his lack of support during hurricane Katrina." WOW!!! THIS IS REALLY WRITTEN IN THE LIFE AND CAREER PARAGRAPH? This is insanely opinionated and has no place on wikipedia, however apparently i'm not able to edit it myself. any takers?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.130.84 (talk) 04:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done; fixed. Softlavender (talk) 11:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  black/white 

message: Could someone please create or start an article on Kanye's song, "Hey Mama"? It deserves an article due to all the play it's getting, both on tour and live on the Grammys. It shouldn't be confused with the Blackeyed Peas song of the same title; and thus it needs an article of its own. I don't know enough about the song or about its origin and such (or even Kanye himself) to write it, but it would be great if it were done. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 04:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hey Mama" 

message: The article lists Kanye as having separated from his fiancee Alexis in 2007, but those reports proved to be untrue. Two sources that contravene this information here and here. Can we just eliminate that line from the article and the accompanying source? 71.192.43.152 (talk) 03:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kanye's fiancee 

message: Article watchers are asked to assist with the expansion of So Help Me God (album). ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The page was moved to Draft:So Help Me God (album) (against my wishes). Feel free to work on the article there or discuss on the talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[So Help Me God (album)]] 

message: On April 08, 2009, an episode of South Park called Fishsticks aired featuring a parody of Kanye West. West, in his blog, claims to have enjoyed the episode, although admitting it hurt his feelings.
IJordan10 (talk) 01:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not clear what changes you wanted to be made. Your request must be in a "X to Y" format. IPadPerson (talk) 02:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2015 

message: March 2, 2015.  If an internet user types 'loser.com' into a browser, an automatic redirection occurs directly to Kanye West Wikipedia page.  It appears that the domain loser.com was purchased by an unknown person and the redirect was launched on March 1, 2015.  One report suggests that the individual may be a Beck fan, but that is unconfirmed.   A substantial traffic spike occurred for the award winning artist, and multiple media sources suggest that this is being termed as an 'internet revenge' for perceived inappropriate behaviour by West.  Kanye West has not responded or commented on the joke redirect as of yet.
108.180.138.54 (talk) 07:44, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny, but not really encyclopedic, and unlikely that the reported motive would be anything more than speculation.  --Padenton (talk) 14:32, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  'loser.com' URL redirects to Kanye West Wikipedia page 

message: Surprisingly this article makes no mention of his controversial performance in Kasakhstan and the 3M USD paycheck.
The HRF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Foundation) joined many media outlets in condeming Kanye West for performing at the wedding of Kazakhstani president Nursultan Nazarbayev’s grandson for a reported fee of $3 million.
http://humanrightsfoundation.org/programs/hrf-programs/kanye-west-in-kazakhstan contains many links.
Of course he's not the only star to have performed for dubious leaders but this should nevertheless be stated here for balance.
http://www.mtv.com/news/1713472/kanye-west-kazakhstan-performance-controversy/
86.141.37.55 (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controvery around performance for Kazakh ruling family in April 2013