Talk:Isuzu Trooper

message: Isuzu's lawsuit against Consumers Union was LOST.  Numerous news outlets have reported this and so has Consumers Union:
http://www.consumersunion.org/products/verdict.htm--Bryanmenard 20:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The isuzu Trooper is a Great SUV its really sad isuzu replaced it. 
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No Isuzu Trooper had a V8 engine offered from factory... Bryan
I concur,  the Isuzu Trooper at no time and in no country was offered with a V8 from the factory...  Eric
DUDE THE ISUZU ALTERRA/ASCENDER STINKS, CANT BELIEVE THEY REPLACED THE TROOPER WITH IT!
Isuzu probably intended to offer a V8 Trooper at some point. I have two reasons to believe this:
1. The 3.5 V6 in the last generation Trooper is a 75-degree V6. There is no reason to make a clean-sheet 75-degree V6, because a 60-degree V would be even firing and therefore smoother. A 90-degree V8 would be even-firing, so a 75-degree V only makes sense if the engine family was intended to accomodate a V8 at some point.
2. Isuzu held some trademarks that implied 8-cylinder power, including "AWD/V8" and "ultim8." A V8 would make sense for Isuzu's commercial trucks, but not the AWD. Logically, this powertrain would have been in the Trooper. The only other possibility would have been for a V8 in a larger SUV that slotted above Trooper.
  Meersman 04:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sad  

message: This is referenced in the article. Is there a source for this? Will it be a version of the Mu-7? I'll delete if this remains unreferenced for a while.Meersman 02:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009 Trooper in Europe 

message: This page seems to suggest that the pre-1992 troopers only offered a I4 engine. But I owned a 1990 Trooper with a V6. Am I reading something wrong? 75.75.110.235 16:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A little confused about engines 

message: A photo needs to be added for the distinctive asymmetric rear-door combination.  While a bit of a gas hog, still one of my favorite vehicles (driven to 13K ft.). It would also show to reinforce the High rating on the article. 198.123.51.6 (talk) 18:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rear Door View

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was not moved. Aervanath (talk) 18:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Isuzu Trooper → Isuzu Bighorn — this move was already done in 2007 per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions#Titles. However, User:Nwwebber moved it back to "Isuzu Trooper" without discussion. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

text: *The current naming convention is to title the article based on one objective criterion: the name the vehicle was first released under in its domestic market (per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions#Titles). This is because some vehicles are released under conflicting names in foreign countries. For example, the car released as "Isuzu Trooper" in the United States was released in Europe as both an Opel and a Vauxhall. It is almost universally used policy (except for Lexus), and the 200 WP:CARS members have argued long and hard on several occasions, but this policy has remained with overall support each time. WP:Common name does not apply here because it would almost always lead to an unfair U.S. bias. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:14, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

text: *Falcadore, Common name does not apply here—there are far too many issues with using it. Intead we go by original market name (i.e. Bighorn)—see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions#Titles. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *OSX, what are the issues that actually apply in this case?  --Born2cycle (talk) 21:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions#Titles still applies. Even if we went by the new proposed changes here, original market name would still qualify because it is known by more than one name in English-speaking countries. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid a WikiProject-specific guideline agreed to by 200 people can't override a community-wide agreement that we use the common names of persons and things as article titles. I understand your concern that the same car can be known under several totally different names in different parts of the world, but when an overwhelmingly more common name exists, we should definitely go with policy and use it. Maybe the WP:AUTOS guideline should be changed to reflect this? Jafeluv (talk) 22:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an extended discussion on this subject presently running here. IFCAR (talk) 23:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I left an outside opinion on that page, I hope it's ok. Jafeluv (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
I just lost an awesome 2000 model isuzu trooper. Unlike the rest of you guys I was driving a stick shift. The other person ran a red light, that I couldn't avoid and flipped my truck. I wish Isuzu made troopers, because I would buy another model. The only complaint I had was that I need to add oil between oil changes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.33.85.24 (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Google results are interesting.
* Results 1 - 10 of about 620,000 English pages for "Isuzu Trooper"
* Results 1 - 10 of about 48,500 English pages for "Isuzu Bighorn". 
So Trooper is used over 12 times as often as Bighorn on English pages.  Seems pretty clear to me.  --Born2cycle (talk) 21:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions#Titles still applies. Even if we went by the new proposed changes here, original market name would still qualify because it is known by more than one name in English-speaking countries. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid a WikiProject-specific guideline agreed to by 200 people can't override a community-wide agreement that we use the common names of persons and things as article titles. I understand your concern that the same car can be known under several totally different names in different parts of the world, but when an overwhelmingly more common name exists, we should definitely go with policy and use it. Maybe the WP:AUTOS guideline should be changed to reflect this? Jafeluv (talk) 22:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an extended discussion on this subject presently running here. IFCAR (talk) 23:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I left an outside opinion on that page, I hope it's ok. Jafeluv (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
I just lost an awesome 2000 model isuzu trooper. Unlike the rest of you guys I was driving a stick shift. The other person ran a red light, that I couldn't avoid and flipped my truck. I wish Isuzu made troopers, because I would buy another model. The only complaint I had was that I need to add oil between oil changes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.33.85.24 (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Hi guys! I uploaded a picture of a Jackaroo on commons :</br>
thumb|Holden Jackaroo off-road
I think it would look good on this article, since it currently only has "urban" pictures. But when I tried to put it in the article, my ignorance hit me like a 5-ton angry ram : which version is it ? What kind of detail should I add? No ideaaa… I can only tell you that it's a Holden Jackaroo with a 3.5l V6 engine.</br>Cheers, Thouny (talk) 13:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, great image! I agree it would work well with the article. I have identified this car as a 2000 Holden Jackaroo (UBS) SE 5-door wagon. Also, it would be great if you could get the project an interior photo, that would be great, as it is difficult to obtain interior photos of older cars like this. OSX (talk • contributions) 14:52, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi! Glad that you like it :) Unfortunately, that was a car I used when I was in Tassie, but I'm back in France right now :/ Sorry!</br>Cheers, Thouny (talk) 07:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture