Talk:Operation Retribution (1941)

message: "Civilian casualties were as many as 1,160, while German military losses were 18."
18 what? Buildings? Bases? 99.236.220.155 (talk) 05:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More info

message: Well, I think that should be two separate articles 'cause attacker in this two occasions were not fight on the same side. Also, if you look into French, German and Serbian articles, you'll see that they describe only one bombing (not both in the same article). -- Bojan  05:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting

message: No wonder Wikipedia isn't trusted as a source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.23.238 (talk) 17:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This whole article is bunkum 

message: I consider this article should be split into two, this one for the German bombing (Operation Retribution) in April 1941 that presaged the invasion, and a new one for the Allied bombing of Yugoslavia (which mainly occurred in 1944). The USAAF and RAF bombed Belgrade, Mostar, Niš, Pančevo, Zara, Skopje, Metovic, Knin, Imotski, Bihac, Brod, Drnis, Leskovic, Zagreb, Varazdin etc etc etc. Conflating two bombings of Belgrade three years apart is counterintuitive when there is much more to the Allied missions that bombed Belgrade (for example the USAAF also bombed Niš and Pančevo on the same day in April 1944). They really are separate subjects. Peacemaker67  (send... over) 04:46, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - If the article dealing with the allied bombing cannot be developed substantially beyond the scope currently found in this article, the material could be arranged as an article on allied bombing of Yugoslavia in WWII, with an appropriate wikilink in this one.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split of article 

message: I have reversed the move to Bombing of Belgrade in World War II, as that is NOT the scope of the article. This article relates only to Operation Retribution, the bombing of Belgrade at the outset of the Axis invasion in April 1941, not the later bombing of Belgrade by the Allies that occurred between 1941 and 1945, covered by :Allied bombing of Yugoslavia in World War II. When moving articles, please take into account the scope of the article, other articles that might cover the topic, and the class of the article, and use an RM if unsure. Thanks, Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 10:10, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undiscussed move 

message: Dear , I have doubts on the Easter.
First of all, 6 april gregorian was saturday, so cannot be the Easter Sunday. This is sure.
Gilbert (Grande Storia della Seconda Guerra Mondiale, I have it in italian ...) states that Beograd was full of people collected there to celebrate the Palm Sunday (evidently the next day). The correctness of Gilbert is highly probable.
My computer program computes that the Orthodox Easter was on 7 april julian i.e. 20 april gregorian. Quite probably I have a bug ...
Suppongoche (talk) 19:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Although the source does indeed say this, it would appear the author (Zakić) is mistaken and you are correct. Easter Sunday in 1941 took place on 20 April (Gregorian). It would appear that it was the 1944 bombing that coincided with Easter Sunday, not the 1941 one. I will therefore remove this in accordance with WP:V. Good catch! Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems legit. Thanks, Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 01:33, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As a consequence, the Palm Sunday of Gilbert (claimed to be a main factor of the heavy life toll) is the catholic one. Suppongoche (talk) 03:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter?