Talk:History of Cornwall

message: Why is there no mention of the Spanish raids, or of Arab slavers raids of the 17th and 18th centuries as is mentioned in the Norman Conquest article?  Naerhu 10:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: there is a little on this at Penzance - maybe someone should copy it across and expand it as I know there was more than one Spanish raid Mammal4 10:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the Slave raids on Cornish shipping and ports, see Ismail_Ibn_Sharifand its talk page. ---Vernon White 22:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Raids on Cornwall

message: In view of the chronology in the WP article History of Saffron, it seems highly unlikely that recipes and materials for Saffron Cake were handed down by Phoenician ancestors of the Cornish.
::::===Vernon White (talk) 16:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Saffron Cakes

message: According to Barry Cunliffe's book "The extraodinary voyage of Pytheas the greek", Diodorus who based his account indirectly on Pytheas) only said "The inhabitants of Britain who live on the promontory  called Belerion..."  The identification with Lands End is due to Ptolemy who used the spelling Bolerium.
David horsey 10:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Diodorus

message: Vernon, I found your inclusion of another edition of Halliday to be unnecessary, and, like Orthrus, rather deformed. The policy Wikipedia: Citing Sources cautions editors to make clear which edition inline citations refer to, the reason being that different editions may have altered texts or page numbers. Now that you have added another edition, the reader doesn't know which of the two editions has been cited in the footnotes. In this case, I don't think that matters much, as the edition I have was published in 2000 (not 2001) and has the afterword by Halliday's son you mention, so I dare say the pagination is the same. All the more reason, however, for the doubling up to be redundant. I would point out that the ISBN number identifies the edition (and makes it quickly traceable); the date 1959 is merely the first publication date, essential information for the reader. If you were to cite a different edition of Halliday in the article, that edition could then be included in the references list on its own line, and the footnotes would include differentiated edition dates, using square brackets for the original publication date: Halliday ([1959] 2000:46), Halliday  ([1959] 2006:104), or whatever; in time, editors would ideally tidy the citations to one edition. On these matters the policy states:
Page numbers: "When citing books and articles, provide page numbers where appropriate. Page numbers must be included in a citation that accompanies a specific quotation from, or a paraphrase or reference to, a specific passage of a book or article."
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qp10qp 16:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have amended the paragraph about the battles with the West Saxons to include the dates we agreed in the general section There are no references for the claims about the battle in which Doniert died and about the last king of Cornwall. Perhaps someone could put them in. Crococolana 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of another edition of Halliday

message: I have amended the reference to Dungarth to include the source (Annales Cambriae), which I see I have erroneously treated as singular, and exclude the unsourced speculation about who ruled what. Crococolana 18:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dungarth

message: User:Jellery has made a large number of unsourced amendments.  Some of the statements need sources to have any credibility, for instance "Twenty percent of the Cornish population are believed to have been killed during 1549. It is one of the major factors that contributed to the decline in the Cornish language.
". === Vernon White (talk) 21:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced amendments

message: This was a staement made by William of Malmesbury  -  Source: "Cornwall: A History" by Professor Philip Payton of the Institute of Cornish Studies  - From Dumnonia to Cornubia - The final subjugation of Cornwall, however, was left to Athelstan who in AD 936 set the River Tamar as the border between Cornwall and England, rather as he had set the Wye as the boundary between England and Wales. The remaining Cornish were evicted from Exeter and perhaps the rest of Devon (William of Malmesbury comments unpleasantly that Exeter was cleansed of its defilement by wiping out that filthy race) - ref. William Stubbs, William of Malmesbury's Gesta Regum Anglorum (Deeds of the English Kings), Royal Society, London, 1887, p89. In effect, Athelstan had created the modern geo-political entity of Cornwall (Kernow) in that he had guaranteed its territorial and ethnic integrity (attacks from east of the Tamar would now be a thing of the past). In AD 944 Athelstan's successor, Edmund I of England, styled himself King of the English and ruler of this province of the Britons (ref - Malcolm Todd, The South West to A.D. 1000, London, Longman 1987, pp. 287-9), an indication of how that accommodation was understood at the time. 217.44.83.62 (talk) 10:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Exeter was cleansed of its defilement by wiping out that filthy race"

message: Coverage of this is lacking apart from the Civil War.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  17th century 

message: There's a lot of the use "Britain" and "British" in this article considering it's about a county in the south west of England and that "Britain" as a state didn't exist until 1707.  The article incorrectly conflates "British isles" with "Britain" and uses "Britain" and "British" as interchangeable words for England.  The trouble is, it would take a major edit to correct all the inaccurate terminology and I don't have the time.
wonko (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britain & British 

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