Talk:Gyorche Petrov

message: It is truth that Macedonians in Republic of Macedonia regard him as Macedonian, Bulgarians regard him as Bulgarian. If Petrov while still living regarded himself like both of nations (in ethnic sense) it would be NPOV to write Bulgarian/Macedonian (etnic group) or Macedonian (etnic group)/Bulgarian. But what we can do if we can not find some evidences that Petrov had a Macedonian ethnic consciousness? If he fight for Macedonia like one of the local Bulgarians? Then it would be honest to write Bulgarian revolutionary and to specify that in RoM he is regarded like ethnic Macedonian. It is just an oppinion. --AleksandarH 20:04, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article will be reverted to an older date, on which there is consensus. This article is not neutral with all the interpretations. It has also dead links and unnecessary information like unsigned letters and school certificate. Laveol, please do not move this article to Gyorche Petrov again. Google on it and you will see that Gyorche Petrov is very very seldom used compared to Gjorce Petrov. (Toci (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert to consented date

message: There is nothing in the certificate about Bulgarian except that is Bulgarian School in Plovdiv. Please do not give any regional and ethnical interpretations without references. Keep the article without them. I do not know why is the certificate important for this article, but he had excellent grades. (Toci (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Certificate

message: I removed the "Quotes" section you can't just make a section for random quotes especially since its obviously from a book. This is POV provided by other users for some reason. Ashkani 22:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? It's not a random quote, it's a relevant quote expressing the maker's view on a controversial issue. Also, since when are sourced from books quotes in some way ineligible for inclusion? Please don't delete sourced information.Ploutarchos 23:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats fine. Ashkani 23:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes  

message: There is a lack of documents in favour of the Macedonian idea.
What is supposed to prove Macedonian ethnicity, in fact proves exactly the opposite.Petrov mentions many times Macedonia and Macedonians, however, they are always used as geographic terms and at the same time as synonyms of Bulgarian, Thracian and Adrianopolitan.Furthermore, in his memoirs Gjorche numerous times determines the revolutionary activity in Macedonia as national liberation and unification struggle of the Bulgarian people and had never ever said even a word about any relation with ancient civilisations and so on.
With all my respect but if our Macedonian friends don't manage to provide us with real reference showing that he had ever expressed ethnic Macedonian identity and considered himself as descendent of the ancient Macedonians, not of the Macedonian Bulgarians, I'll edit the article.
This article was vandalized. If no reliable explaination will be given about the unexplained actionsI am going to remove the POV, which was pushed here. Jingby (talk) 14:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Giving reliable sources is one of the fundamental rules of Wikipedia. I have provided American reference, where as you have put only BG. There is no need of removing it just because you do not like it.-- MacedonianBoy  Oui? 14:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity 

message: I have been trying to clean uthis article up to bring it line with the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, inlcuding:
*removing repeated links per WP:OVERLINK -- it is not necessary to link concept like Macedonia (region) and Republic of Macedonia over and over again.
*removing the italics from quotations -- thi is not the Wikipedia style. Quotations are placed in double quotation marks ( " ) and in regulat text, not italics. 
Ground Zero | t 21:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting