Talk:Apple TV

message: In the article:
:iTunes and QuickTime support
:According to some users, the "Export to Apple TV" option in QuickTime, is no "speed demon".[65] Performance improvements may be found with a QuickTime-compatible hardware acceleration device for H.264 encoding.[66]
How is this a limitation of Apple TV? —Tokek (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not. If you don't like it in that section, remove it or move it elsewhere. Foobaz·o< 23:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

text: This was originally included to offset the following: "Apple included an "Export to Apple TV" option in an update to their QuickTime software that was released days before Apple TV started shipping. This allows content in some formats that the device does not support to be re-encoded into accepted formats for playback on the device."  I agree, it is probably outdated now, anyway.  Aswick 02:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Limitations" 

message: With the release of 2.1 does this section need to be updated?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondaig (talk • contribs) 02:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Functionality 

message: This section is in dire need of an update since the new Apple TV software has been released and it looks (and feels, for that matter) completely different. Demosthenes, blog 20:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Look and Feel" 

message: Why are we calling it 10.4.7 based when it should just be called Apple TV OS 2.3, based on Tiger, etc? We don't call the iPhone's OS 10.5.X, but iPhone OS. Nja247 (talk • contribs) 07:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OS 

message: I don't know if this fits in Wikipedia but it seems that apple tv isn't entirely profitable. This site includes lots of info so should this info be included? http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/tc20070606_984317.htm?specialreport=iphone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diaa abdelmoneim (talk • contribs) 07:21, November 25, 2008
: The Business Week article is based on analysis by iSuppli. The iSuppli analyses are well known for being basically one step away from guesswork. Not really the "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" we are looking for. Anyway given that the Apple TV is basically a kiosk for the iTunes Store and that the concept of loss leaders is so well known that we even have an article for it (loss leaders), I'm not really sure if this is worth noting. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Total agreement; iSuppli isn't known for stunning accuracy. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: This info was originally included in the article, but was removed due to the content being based on conjecture/opinion.  See change & comment 7/20/2007 08:55 by Stephen Shaw.   Aswick 00:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profitability 

message: Any ideas of how we can incorporate future functionality, such as the Magic Wand patent without straying into opinion/rumor/conjecture?  Perhaps we shouldn't?
76.164.114.151 (talk) 14:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future 

message: In the specifications there was a section at the bottom for disclaimers. if there is need to do this use citations. I have moved the 'disclaimers' into there appropriate sectionsRemeber this is not an advert for Apple TV 60.241.85.126 (talk) 02:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specification 

message: Apple TV is "simple to operate"
*say what? this is subjective and should not be the beggining of a section.
*putting double quotes around this statement and citing it does not make it less so
the beginning line of this section should be changed to "Apple Inc aims for", "Apple Inc says".  At the moment this looks to be subjective/ and to be advertising rather than objective 60.241.85.126 (talk) 02:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really.  Remember that 2 years ago, Apple set the standard.  From the article: "...Like the iPod, Apple TV is simple to operate...Amazon.com's online store is not as elegant as iTunes..."  Should the statement be removed?  Definitely, but not for the reasons you state, IMHO.  This was a USA Today article (i.e. TiVo comparison), not an advertisement.  Today, the user interface is dated and there are "easier" and "more elegant" interfaces available in other products (see *Limitations* for more info). Aswick 02:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Look and feel 

message: "Apple also offers 4 Mbit/s H.264 720p HD movies for rental via iTunes.[136] For comparison, broadcast and cable HD movies are up to 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 720p and Blu-ray HD movies are up to 40 Mbit/s H.264 or VC-1 1080p."
Comparing 4 Mbit/s H.264 against 19 Mbit/s MPEG2 is meaningless, and will suggest to the lay-person that the former is worse quality, which may or may not be the case. They're different codecs so a bitrate comparison is meaningless and even misleading. --58.28.152.52 (talk) 04:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Edited article to remove MPEG2 comparison. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 12:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad comparison 

message: There are parts of this section that have long series of citations supporting a short sentence or two  I’m wondering whether editors closer to the content can pick a few key citations to provide the needed support rather than the long lists we have now.Mattnad (talk) 20:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this is what Nja247 was referring to as DIY?  Some of those links point straight to DIY/tutorial pages.  I am probably responsible for a few.-- 22:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally yes. Nja247 09:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Much improved IMHO. Mattnad (talk) 14:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations in Mods & Hacks section 

message: Moving beyond AshtonBenson concerns about meapuppetry, the issue as far as I can tell is there is no reliable source to support an observation that has come up in forums and user reviews that the ATV does not send a signal to power down a monitor.  The Apple Support document cited does not bring up this issue directly (but it can be inferred from that document if you're aware of an alternative approach).  
So really, per WP:RS, we don't have anything that qualifies to support that claim. Unfortunately, forums and user reviews are not reliable sources.  Anyone can post in a forum (no matter how official) and anyone can post a review on Amazon but that does not make it a reliable source.  Personally, I don't think it's an incorrect observation of a limitation, but since this has been challenged, we need something a bit more concrete than what has been provided.  
: Keep in mind that the claim in question is "it has been widely reported  that the Apple TV lacks support for DMPM".  Posts in forums are obviously relevant to that specific claim. AshtonBenson (talk) 01:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that Ashton doesn't seem interested in observing policy or working with other editors here, is there much point? AlistairMcMillan (talk) 14:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, lets see what he says.  I'm hoping that if AshtonBenson doubts the current participants on this talk page, he'll still be willing to consider the views of editors complete removed from this forum.  Mattnad (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Okay, listen. The text you're adding - particularly in this edit - was particularly heavy on synthesis of materials. You're using a handful of inappropriate sources to come to some conclusion, which is both a violation of WP:RS and WP:SYN. I've warned you twice now about this, even though you keep blanking the warnings from your talk page. You have three editors telling you that the text you're adding is inappropriate. If you don't stop this disruptive editing, it will be reported. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 01:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I have three meat puppets vandalizing my careful contributions.  That will be reported.  AshtonBenson (talk) 04:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You can report what you like but there is no conspiracy.  I assure you, this is hardly an issue worth conspiring about (really).  It's just a simple application of the reliable sources guidelines.  If you can find a reliable source for this, nobody will prevent you from adding it. Also, you may want to read up on  assuming good faith in editing. Mattnad (talk) 11:17, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

text: You're a bit late to the discussion but I think you should read up on a) what constitutes a reliable source for wikipedia (see WP:RS) and b) what constitutes original research (see WP:OR).  The apple support article you cited does not support the claims of the now banned editor (hence original research), and musings about it on a couple of forums do not constitute a reliable source.  Your opinion is not shared by the many editors who weighed in on this in other forums.  But feel free to grumble.  Mattnad (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Management Limitations 

message: One added point.  I note that AshtonBenson is believes this claim has been "widely reported."  Showing up in a few forums and possibly user reviews is not "widely reported."  Putting aside our reliable source concerns what you cited is extremely narrow in "reporting", indirect, and anecdotal.  The stolen iPhone prototype is an example of a "widely reported" story.Mattnad (talk) 19:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're a bit late to the discussion but I think you should read up on a) what constitutes a reliable source for wikipedia (see WP:RS) and b) what constitutes original research (see WP:OR).  The apple support article you cited does not support the claims of the now banned editor (hence original research), and musings about it on a couple of forums do not constitute a reliable source.  Your opinion is not shared by the many editors who weighed in on this in other forums.  But feel free to grumble.  Mattnad (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Not really widely reported either

message: See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Apple_TV_and_discussion_about_Digital_Monitor_Power_Management where I've posted our dispute for third-party assistance.  Mattnad (talk) 21:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posting at [[WP:RSN]] about the Digital Power Management discussion 

message: The labelling of ref 129 appears to be out of uniform with the rest. Usually the comma comes before the ref, and ref 129 is the only area where it comes after.(According to the "Find" option on my browser) mechamind90 07:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The minor change has been made. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:19, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  QuickTime Engine 

message: The sidebar right now shows the thing using an intel CPU, which is true of all the old models with hard drives.  But the new model unveiled the other day uses Apple's own A4 chip, like the iPad or iPhone, instead.  It's ARM-based, not x86-based.  Here's the necessary cite:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
I'm not sure how to integrate that info into the article with correct formatting, and since we're really talking about two different hardware device families with a lot of different specs, I'm not even sure what the right overall approach to take is.  (Split into two articles?  Two sections with two different sidebars?  List of options within the sidebar?)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfjdejulio (talk • contribs) 20:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That needs to be updated. Then in later sections, how about a bit of revamp with a table along the lines of what's done in the Mac Mini or iPod articles.  See Ipod#Models.  We need a lot less detail than these, but I think we're now at the point of major change.  Mattnad (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to integrate the big hardware changes? 

message: The specifications table for the original ATV says "1080p/1080i 60/50Hz (but maximum video resolution is 720p)".  Can someone explain how it's both 1080P/1080i when it also says the maximum video resolution is 720p?  Wouldn't that be 720P then without mention of 1080p/1080i? Mattnad (talk) 18:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  I've check Apple's specs. They say to use the Apple TV, you need "A widescreen, enhanced-definition or high-definition TV capable of at least one of the following resolutions: 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 576p, 480p."  This is not the same as output.  The Apple TV works with EDTVs and HDTVs with multiple resolutions, but it's output is limited to 720P as noted. This is no different from the current model which also works with 1080p HDTVs with video limited to 720p.  See this article . Mattnad (talk) 18:47, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Some early HDTVs could accept 1080i, but not 720p signals, or displayed 720p badly.  The ATV can only play 720p data files, but can turn them into a 1080i or 1080p signal so that such sets will work.  (Although the picture won't look sharper then 720p.)  Algr (talk) 20:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All the apple technical specs say is that the ATV is compatible with TVs capable of playing 1080p or 1080i , but so is a standard resolution DVD player. Mattnad (talk) 09:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The specs are correct - I still own an Apple TV 1st generation, and can confirm that it supports both 1080i and 1080p for everything except video content, in other words, the user interface, screensaver and, most importantly, for viewing photographs.  The 720p limitation is only for video output.  When the Apple TV is set to 1080p mode, it upscales 720p content (i.e. your TV's info button will still report that it's in 1080p mode). M0thr4 (talk) 11:13, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video out of original Apple TV 

message: I believe ifixit found that the newest apple tv has an 8 GB hard drive. The article says it has none at all. We might want to fix that. Or am i wrong? --69.242.155.122 (talk) 22:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Flash memory, not a hard drive. For buffering and holding the OS.--Terrillja talk 00:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. well, i put it had 8gb flash memory in the article, in place of no hard drive. Should I revert that, or is it fine how it is? --Thekmc (talk) 20:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I humbly (and amateurly ;) suggest that it may possibly be used to store iOS and the BootROM? - Alison ❤ 01:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "No internal hard drive"? 

message: The link supporting the statement on closed-captioning is dead, and I don't believe the statement about subtitles is still accurate.  Is there another supporting link? --Skeptict (talk) 12:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Features 

message: This very long list, Apple_TV#Version_history, with software changes (big and/or insignificant) is not really encyclopedic.  I'm thinking this is too detailed and clutters the the article.  Any comments?  I'd like to remove it completely.Mattnad (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. It's entirely crufty. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 19:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version history section 

message: Some information belongs to both Apple TV 1 and 2, other to only one generation, sometimes this is indicated, sometimes it is not. I think the best thing the maintainers of this article could do, is to divide it into two sections, one for each generation, and duplicate information that still applies to Apple TV 2. Thyl Engelhardt 213.70.217.172 (talk) 15:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a mess

message: Can Apple TVs really not display PNG images?
They're not listed in supported image formats in this article.  Michael Reineke (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  PNG Support? 

message: Apple Plots Its TV Assault 19.December.2011  97.87.29.188 (talk) 23:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  potetial [[WSJ]] resource 

message: As I understand it, the 2nd & 3rd gen ATVs do not have user accessible storage, whereas the first gen ATVs had 40GB & 160GB versions. This large disk space was used for synchronization of content onto the 1st gen ATVs, allowed the computer from which they were sync'ed to be shutdown.
The first three paragraphs under "Local Sources" would seem to indicate that sync'ing is available for all ATVs, since it does not seem to frame the sync'ing information as pertaining to only the first gen models.
Has this been discussed, and am I missing something here?
jeff (talk) 09:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syncing only allowed on 1st gen Apple TVs 

message: Is this waiting on anything? The third gen. has some significant differences that should be outlined. Sam metal (talk) 15:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  3G info 

message: Will anything on my iPhone 4s play on appletv thru my wifi connection. I do have itunes latest ios on my PC and have home sharing on! Bill B  23 Sept 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.8.178.36 (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  AppleTV 

message: "Attempts to sync unsupported content to Apple TV will draw an error message from iTunes."
This doesn't make sense.77Mike77 (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad writing re format 

message: Would it be appropriate to add information regarding the replacement program for some of the 3rd gen Apple TVs that were having wifi issues? OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 20:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really encyclopedic IMHO. Mattnad (talk) 23:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add mention of limited wifi issue? 

message: Apparently the Apple TV software update for 6.0 has been pulled for OTA, and allegedly the reason for this is that it's bricked a good quantity of Apple TVs. Where could I possibly source this? RIght now it's just a bunch of 2nd-hand info and shouldn't be included -- yet. OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 17:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: apparently I forgot to say a few days later that the issue went away. sorry about that. OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  a good way to source this? 

message: The list of features includes a disorganized and jumbled list of sources that could be better organized in a table. Also listing whether a cableTV subscription is required or if a subscription to the channel itself is required for viewing. That would help a lot of cord-cutters and others looking for info on how much it will cost to supplement viewing habits.
Chicknfood (talk) 01:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources Table 

message: I have created a new category for tvOS (Apple TV) software. If you encounter any articles that have Apple TV apps, please tag them with Category:TvOS software. 
Thanks, Daylen (talk) 02:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New category 

message: In response to this edit the only applicable section I could find was Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks which states to avoid stylization "unless a significant majority of reliable sources that are independent of the subject consistently include the special character when discussing the subject", and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Proper names: "Exceptions are made when the lowercase variant has received regular and established use in reliable third party sources". Apple refers to the OS exclusively as lower-case "tvOS", similar to iOS, and virtually every reference in news media is as "tvOS", never "TvOS". "TvOS" itself is an awkward halfway capitalization as TV is an initialism, if stylized capitalization was truly being ignored it would be "TVOS".--Shivertimbers433 (talk) 06:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Did some digging myself focusing on news that wasn't tech focused and even there only saw "tvOS", though often in scare quotes. Searching Bing news gets similar results to the Google search above; both seem to focus on tech news, hence the spot checks. PaleAqua (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, but this argument has been had dozens of times on other Apple products, and is exactly the same as with Mac Mini (vs. Mac mini), iPod Mini (vs. iPod mini), iPad Mini (vs. iPad mini), et al. Regardless of the media always following the stylised versions per the marketing teams at companies, we here at an authoritative encyclopaedia DO NOT; per the previous discussions ad infinitum on those other article pages. So you can claim "searches say" but they have no relevance here. Jimthing (talk) 02:24, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes we followed the our style guidelines such as MOS:TM. However the MOS:TM doesn't exactly cover this case. The rule for following standard text formatting and capitalizations has this caveat "". Likewise this isn't exactly CamelCaseo so those exceptions don't apply. The "" section has rules for dealing with all lowercase, and a single lower case letter ( the iPod/eBay ) exception. The closest rule that I could find would be to use all caps per "", which mean that choices probably should be between "tvOS" and "TVOS". PaleAqua (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

text:  Edit also wanted to point out why I mentioned the scare quotes showing up in some of the non-tech news articles. To me it implies that they hadn't quite decided what the correct way to stylize the text of that format. It's possible that we will eventually need to adjust our own style guide similar to the eBay / iPod exception that slowly made it's way into various style guides including Wikipedia's. PaleAqua (talk) 02:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough, use TVOS (rather then TvOS), per the guidelines. Just not tvOS which is certainly not per the WP guidelines. Can't tell you how many discussions Apple's "stylization" naming conventions have caused on WP over the years, with users not realising we do not follow marketing or media usage – here we go yet again, lol! Jimthing (talk) 03:19, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I typically hang out in move review so I am not surprised, it's not just Apple products though. PaleAqua (talk) 03:34, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

text:  Except that iOS is still "iOS" on Wikipedia, not "IOS" - same with iPods, iPhones, iPads... "tvOS" seems no less valid than "iOS" as far as I can tell. --68.203.42.76 (talk) 03:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  For what it's worth, the difference between "tvOS" and "iOS" is, according to the official rules, the difference between one lower-case letter at the beginning of the name and more than one lower-case letter at the beginning of the name.  (I don't see why 1 vs. > 1 should make a difference, but....). Guy Harris (talk) 07:47, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  As I read it, it kinda falls outside of existing guidelines. There are a few that are close as I mentioned above... but none that really match. The best choices as I can figure from the guidelines are "tvOS" ( nothing covers, common usages so falls to local consensus ) and "TVOS" ( preferred if letters are pronounced individually from TMRULES  ). I could also see a case for "TvOs" if the camel case rules were stretched a bit, but that also falls foul of the same rules that say that we should only change if in wide-spread use. My personal preference would tend to using "tvOS" as the other forms do not generally appear in other sources. Most of TMRULES has a general usage requirement or a widespread usage requirement. I'm not sure that the omission of stating that in the all caps rules is completely intentional especially given the second part of that bullet has  for the all lowercase case. PaleAqua (talk) 09:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Per what guideline recommendation is this discussion being claimed as ? General real-world usage leans unequivocally towards "tvOS". Honestly the only way to settle this is through some sort of democratic channel, there are guidelines supporting "tvOS" and others (and arguably fewer IMHO) supporting "TVOS", and really none for "TvOS" (sorry!). --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: "tvOS" vs. "TvOS" (or "TVOS")

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message: What is meant by "obsolete" in the technical specifications section, and what is the source for attaching that designation? Earlier versions still function to watch TV shows, listen to music, etc., don't they? In what sense are they obsolete? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Obsolete" vs. "discontinued" 

message: G'Day,
Fortiguard says that listofappletvapps.com is a malicious site. Maybe this link should be removed.
203.213.0.203 (talk) 05:59, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  malicious link - listofappletvapps.com 

message: What's the  meant to be? I suspect it's a character used by Apple's operating systems to look like an Apple, but not officially designated for that purpose in Unicode. Therefore it is inappropriate to use it on Wikipedia, which is not an Apple-only application, and it should be removed or replaced with an actual image. 82.28.153.207 (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Talk:Apple_Watch#First_sentence.2C_what_does_.22.28stylized_as_.EF.A3.BFWATCH.29.22_mean.2C_why_is_there_a_.EF.A3.BF. ed g2s • talk 09:20, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Apple TV (stylized as  tv)" 

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message: I have removed the how-to section "Modifications and hacks" and placed it here for someone to move to a more appropriate location. -KAP03(Talk • Contributions • Email) 23:10, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: How-to section

message: Despite the article being promoted to good article status, there are still a ton of unreferenced claims in the article and the accessibility section is completely unreferenced. I suggest demoting this from good article status until the problems are fixed. 344917661X (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for noticing my complaint. I'll probably file a reassessment in about a week if the problems aren't fixed. 344917661X (talk) 12:24, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologize for my inconsistent schedule, but now I feel that I've made enough an improvement for the article to qualify. If there are any additional major errors or inconsistencies, do let me know please. Thanks. GoAnimateFan199Pro (talk) 07:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Although the article has improved a lot, i've still found quite a lot of unreferenced claims scattered throughout the article. Make sure every claim is cited and if it isn't, find a source and use it as a citation and/or reference for claims that aren't backed up. 344917661X (talk) 02:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced claims 

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message: This section does not discuss development of the Apple TV product. It lists an incomplete smattering of historical products and false starts which happen to have some association with TV. None are even antecedent to the product being discussed.
The fourth paragraph is reports of debunked rumours. These might as well be categorised as fan fiction, though they were widely reported at the time. This historical tidbit might still have some place in the article, but certainly not under the heading of "Development."
At minimum, the section should be renamed to better reflect its content. However in my opinion none of it is relevant to the article and deletion should be considered. Simon Wright (talk) 04:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't object to deleting it. Guy Harris (talk) 05:27, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just saw *Historical antecedents* used as a section title on Developer Transition Kit (2020) and decided that it was appropriate for this page. I still think the section isn't relevant and should be deleted, but at least now it's not mistitled. Simon Wright (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Development" 

message: Should the sentence "It also has the ability to pair with an iPhone's ambient light sensor to optimize its color output" be here? This is more of a function of tvOS than the Apple TV. When updated updated to the tvOS 14.5 beta, the 5th generation (4K, 2017) model supports this as well. I have heard, but can't confirm, that this feature also works with 4th generation (HD).
SANSd20 (talk) 17:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambient Light sensor, 6h Gen 

message: The introduction to the article states that the Apple TV gives users access to, among other things, "TV Everywhere-based cables and broadcastings, and sports league journalisms." Is this (cables, broadcastings, journalisms) typical industry jargon, or am I correct in thinking that this is a case of poor (possibly nonexistent) word choice? Illini407 talk 19:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and addressed this. I am nearly positive some of those words don't even exist. Illini407 talk 19:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd word choice in intro 

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message: The following text appeared in the "Background" section but refers to events well after the 2006 release of the first-ten Apple TV. I'm moving it here in case anyone wants to do anything with it. PRRfan (talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed text from "Background" section