Talk:Jaffa (Stargate)

message: This article states that since, in the movie, Daniel said "look upon your gods" when showing the Abydonians te helmets, Ra's minions wer minor Goa'uld. One must remember, however, that Daniel was not all-knowing then. He didn't know about minor Goa'uld yet, and guessed that the Abydonians worshipped Ra's minons, which they might have. In short, Daniel, in that scene, is not a reliable source of information. Thank you. Tutthoth-Ankhre (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel had no idea what was going on! 

message: "...meditation known as Kelna'rim on regular intervals in order to synchronise with the symbiote. If kelnoreem is not performed..."
Kelna'rim or kelnoreem?
Manfrin 03:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the official spelling seems to be kelnoreem.    Zanaq 10:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But  has it spelled on most pages as Kelnarim or Kelnorim. Considering There is no difinitive source, and that there are no subtitles on the DVD's to verify with, I think we should just keep it with Kelna'rim as is in the article (I fixed the second spelling to match). Also, 'kelnoreem' is the phonetical spelling of it, and therefore the extra results in the google search for that spelling is probably attributed to people simply commenting on the show, spelling how it sounds. Manfrin 02:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same word in two sentances, different spellings 

message: Instead of having 2 or more stubs based on Jaffa related subjects, let's bring them all together. Lady Aleena  00:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a good idea to me overall, but at the same time how about splitting off a List of Jaffa since half the article is currently taken up by that and there's another similar list over in First Prime that would add to the listiness of the article as well. Bryan 00:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like this idea. SPlit it to Jaffa and List of Jaffa, First Prime goes in List, the rest in Jaffa. Manfrin 02:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of putting the Jaffa High Council in the Jaffa entry, I think it should be put in the Free Jaffa Nation article. I will change the merge links to reflect that, since the High Council is the first government of the Free Jaffa Nation. Lady Aleena  04:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indifferent to Jaffa resistance, Oppose for First Prime. Reiterating my argument in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stargate, I beleive that First Prime isn't just a kind of Jaffa but a fictional military rank, entitled to its own article. Heck, real military ranks have shorter articles. In addition, I think it's a good idea to have something to link to when someone types First Prime, if only because we went without it for so long. Lockesdonkey 19:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A redirect page would suffice.-- Alfakim --  talk  08:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text:  Merge both. Just because an article is merged doesn't mean we can use the first as a redirect - in this case, First Prime would then point to the Jaffa page (too bad redirects can't point to a specific entry on the page). Since there aren't any other Jaffa rankings that I'm aware of, it doesn't really make sense to have a completely separate article merely for a First Prime - now, if the structure of the Jaffa military were fleshed out more, then I'd think it appropriate to make an entire new entry on Jaffa military structure or somesuch, but still leave First Prime as a redirect. And the Jaffa resistance article is really too small to keep on its own, even if it were fleshed out. Virogtheconq 00:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion

message: I have not seen to the end of Season 9 yet but AFAIK it has never been established whether a human and a Jaffa can create fertile offspring - this the most commonly accepted definition of a species.  Jaffa and humans have never been shown as interested in each other sexually/romantically that I can recall.  Whether or not Jaffa are a seperate species remains to be defined I believe.  Just because they are decended from humans does not on its own mean they are still human in any biological sense.  My person feeling is that the Jaffa constitute a seperate species. Robertbrockway 07:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate species? 

message: Ra's Jaffa in the film are credited as Anubis and Horus. Should we include them? After all, [presumably unrelated] Anubis and Horus (Heru-ur) turned out to be System Lords in SG-1. --Codenamecuckoo 10:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horus, Anubis 

message: Changed the first article since it implied that all Jaffa requires a symbiote upon reaching puberty, this is not true for all jaffa populations. Teal'c's son did not require a sybiote because of his age but because he was sick and dying.
He only got sick because his immune system shut down, it has been explicitly stated that all Jaffa require a symbiote to survive after they reach their specific age.  Many episodes (Specifically those with the Hak'tyl) have shown Jaffa children with no apparent sickness requiring a symbiote to prevent their death. JBK405 22:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age of Prata & Prim'tah 

message: Where was it ever established that Jaffa are biologically human, their ancestors being modified humans?? --Promus Kaa 20:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None of the SGI or Atlantis episodes have been declared non-canon. officially or otherwise. You posting this sentence doesn't make it true. Also, I advise all readers about trusting the veracity of claims of canon status made by someone who cannot spell 'canon.' 96.225.212.89 (talk) 12:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jaffa/Human Link 

message: Free Jaffa Nation does not meet WP:Notability (fiction) because it consists of mainly unsourced plot and appears nonnotable, but it is a long article (WP:SIZE). I'd like trim it and then merge it here. Objections for a merge? (Note that if you want to keep it, you still need to trim it and then expand it for sourced production conception, audience reception etc.) – sgeureka t•c 13:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged. – sgeureka t•c 16:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of [[Free Jaffa Nation]] 

message: The planet has some in-universe notability, but presumely no real-world notability as required per Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) (WP:FICT). Since this planet has a strong link to the history of the Jaffa, I suggest merging it here (some of the article content already appears here, so the article wouldn't be merged here in full). The left-over article can than either redirect here or Planets in Stargate. I'll leave this discussion open for a while (longer than two weeks) to allow the addition real-world content (which per WP:FICT would be sales figures, critical and popular reception, development, cultural impact, and merchandise) if it exists, and to allow proper time for discussion. I can transwiki the unmergeable tidbits to wikia:Stargate:Chulak. – sgeureka t•c 16:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged into Planets in Stargate instead of here. Article consisted of a lot of speculation (see Wikipedia:No original research), so no further merge necessary. No transwiki done because of speculation. – sgeureka t•c 15:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of [[Chulak]]

message: Basicially the same merge rationale as for Chulak (despite in-universe notability presumely no real-world notability), but since Dakara also has some Ancient history, this requires a little more discussion. I can transwiki the unmergeable tidbits, but wikia:Stargate:Dakara already seems to cover most information. – sgeureka t•c 16:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged into Planets in Stargate instead of here. Article consisted of a lot of plot repetition (see WP:NOT#PLOT), most of which is already present in Dakara Superweapon, so no further merge necessary. No transwiki done because the wikia article is already good enough. – sgeureka t•c 15:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of [[Dakara]]

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message: He is not Anubis. That Cloaked and Ascended Systemlord was Anubis. Take it this way. On wikipedia, new news is considered more accurate and updated. Same thing here. But if this dude wasn't Anubis, you guys wonder, then who was he? There was another Ancient Egyptian god with a jackel's head: Duamutef, one of Four sons of Horus. Sorry if this is against guidelines, I'm just trying to make a point. Tutthoth-Ankhre (talk) 19:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anubis Guard: Who is this guy? 

message: I'm removing this category tag because the Jaffa are clearly not marsupials. Ninebucks (talk) 00:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marsupials?