Talk:Fame (David Bowie song)

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Bowie Fame90.jpg

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replies: text: Fair use rationale has since been added to the image in question. Cheers, Ian Rose 09:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Bowie Fame.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Bowie Fame90.jpg

message: I removed that part, as it was unsourced and a pretty serious accusation. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 18:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Brown plagiarzied this? 

message: The intro to "Fame" was sampled and used as the intro for "Get Loose" off of the 2010 album, "Revolutions per Minute" by Reflection Eternal. I am not familiar with the formatting of the pages and was not sure how to edit it correctly, but if anyone wants to add this, do so.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1:9C80:3FB:8122:F0C0:CAF6:4D00 (talk) 19:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Fame Sample 

message: What is the timing on this song?  It sounds like 7/8.--134.134.139.76 (talk) 16:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a mix of 4/4 and your guess of 7/8 to me. The verses, especially, sound to be 4/4/. The open is definitely not 4/4. THX1136 (talk) 22:11, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the timing on this song 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: US RCA released this sooner than 25 July 1975.  This is borne out by reviews of this single in the 14 June 1975 issue of Billboard, and in the 21 June 1975 issues of Cash Box and Record World.  However, UK RCA issued this on 18 July, no doubt in the wake of the US release. –Wbwn (talk) 23:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting info. Do you have any sources that support this? Chris O'Leary gives it as 25 July and unfortunately he's the only one I can confirm at the moment. – zmbro (talk) 23:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The smoking gun would be the 14 June 1975 issue of Billboard, which reviewed it in its "Top Single Picks" on page 51 (it was the first of 46 singles spotlighted in that section), and listed it as "Chart Bound" in the top right corner of the Hot 100 of that date on page 52.  It also debuted on the Hot 100 28 June 1975 (page 80), at #90 - four weeks before Chris O'Leary's claimed release date.  David Gleason's World Radio History site would have these Billboards (and more), possibly even Google Books.
However, the book "David Bowie: The Golden Years" by Roger Griffin (link: https://books.google.com/books?id=EKE2DQAAQBAJ&pg=PT368&lpg=PT368&dq=David+Bowie+Fame+PB-10320+release+date&source=bl&ots=BSmE4S39Us&sig=ACfU3U2-HM7B92vwPB9bNbx8h7-othxR7w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiuj9_x4rDwAhUHF1kFHV20DWgQ6AEwCnoECBUQAw#v=onepage&q=David%20Bowie%20Fame%20PB-10320%20release%20date&f=false ) lists the US PB-10320's release date as 2 June 1975.  Again, the UK release date was 18 July. –Wbwn (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

text: Ah ok. Griffin is one I don't own so maybe I should look into that. Bowie is one artist I've always gotten confused on when it comes to release dates, as the majority of them (especially 69–80) are extremely inconsistent. David Buckley gives 2 August 1975 as the week "Fame" entered the UK chart (which to me would imply a July release date). Pegg only gives "8/75", further stating: "It became a US number one in the summer of 1975" (which to me implies June–August). Sandford, Spitz, and Trynka don't give specific dates so O'Leary seems to be the only one (that I own at least) that can confirm. Does Griffin give both 2 June and 18 July or just 2 June?  – zmbro (talk) 23:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

text: To add, Ultimate Classic Rock states: "When "Fame" was released in July 1975 as the second single from Bowie's Young Americans album, it shot to No. 1 and stayed there for two weeks." It didn't hit No. 1 in the UK so this would imply the US release was in July. – zmbro (talk) 23:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That Google Books preview only cites that page, does not go to where the UK release would be.  The book cited 2 June as the U.S. release date, they probably, when they got to 18 July, cited the UK single release of "Fame."  However, a weekly British publication, The New Singles, cited the 18 July date among new releases that week. –Wbwn (talk) 23:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah we seem to be in a predicament here. Other than UCR, most things I'm finding online just say "1975" which doesn't help one bit. Decided to look a little deeper and Sandford actually does give "August 1975" and confirmed Spitz and Trynka don't give dates, neither does Doggett. I'm surprised Bowie's website hasn't brought anything up about it considering how much they've changed dates over the years. Maybe for this single it would be best to just have a month and year and not a specific date, as there seems to be no consistency regarding when it actually came out. – zmbro (talk) 16:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: More specifically, US and UK release dates.  Some other singles listed on this site have that discrepancy. –Wbwn (talk) 00:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong release date 

message: There is a paragraph talking about an animation from 1975 featuring the song, but it is in the Fame '90 section. Am I just reading it wrong or should it be moved Pasta 4431 (talk) 16:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved it up. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. – zmbro (talk) 18:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong section?