Talk:Jesuit High School (Carmichael)

message: === Lars Anderson ===
Someone keeps linking Lars Anderson (class of 2006) to Lawrence Heinemi (a wrestler known also as Lars Anderson) in the Alumni Section.  The two are definitely not the same people.
=== Alumni List ===
The list of "notable" alumni is growing way too long, almost 40% of the article is a list of alumni. As mentioned below by 76.94.53.219 (talk), these are all athletic alumni, showing off only one facet of the school. Taking this into account, and since the article has been tagged as having no references for just about a year now, I am proposing that this list be truncated to only those that can be shown as alumni with a reference. Please leave your thoughts. — Johnl1479(talk) 03:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni Section 

message: The list of "notable" alumni is growing way too long, almost 40% of the article is a list of alumni. As mentioned below by 76.94.53.219 (talk), these are all athletic alumni, showing off only one facet of the school. Taking this into account, and since the article has been tagged as having no references for just about a year now, I am proposing that this list be truncated to only those that can be shown as alumni with a reference. Please leave your thoughts. — Johnl1479(talk) 03:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni List 

message: I went ahead and cut this section significantly.  The entire thing was unreferenced and many members were not notable.  It is likely some will need to be added back, but only if someone can find references that prove a) alumni status; b) notability.  As a reminder, if the alumni has a Wikipedia page, you do not need to prove notability, but you do need to prove alumni status.  Some Wikipedia articles do this, however, if it says the alumni is a member but it is not cited, that is not sufficient.  For policy, see WP:WPSCH/AG -- Lucas20 (talk) 02:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: March 2009

message: The "about JHS" section really sounds like an advertisement.  Joyous | Talk 02:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertisement

message: I removed information that was copied from the following JHSSAC web pages: History of Jesuit, Mission Statement, Reach New Heights.  Please see Wikipedia's copyright policy. ... discospinster 22:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyrighted information 

message: This sounds like a joke to me.  I went to JHS, and never heard this one.  Rio Americano humor? Bubble07 19:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur. You may re-write an appropriate piece. Ronbo76 20:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

text: No its true. There was talk during the 60s about changing the mascot from the Marauders to the Space Cadets. This was viewed as an effort to show loyalism to the United States during the Cold War. Personally, I'm glad it never got approved. Johnl1479 20:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Amazing!  They are lucky it didn't; that term had rather different connotations later on.  They'd have had to change it back! Bubble07 22:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Verified, As a student I heard this story as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyratek (talk • contribs) 22:45, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Space Cadets?

message: I just read through the entire article. It seems very objective to me. All for removing the the disputed neutrality template, say "I" — Johnl1479(talk) 23:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been removed. — Johnl1479(talk) 18:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: I read it too, and I´m sorry to say I have some problems specifically regarding the purported notable alumni.  Granted, I went JHS for the first two years and ending up graduating at its brother school in Los Angeles (Loyola High School) and looking at both it appears like more sports figures from JHS have more weight compared to more notable corporate graduates or other movers and shakers from the JHS community; Sports isn’t necessarily the exclusive notable attribute from JHS.  I’m sure there must be some other mover and shaker from JHS other than sports players, a CEO, Head Partner a major law firm i.e. Mishcon de Reya, Gibbson Dunn + Crutcher, Cuatracasas.  I bring this up because Loyola High School seems to have a broader application and albeit much more diverse i.e. black president of LHS and Archbishop of Baltimore, or other notable minority alumni then JHS and looks like a bad overwhelmingly white Abercrombie and Fitch or J. Crew catalogue, Arden Fair Country Club/ Downtown LA/Santa Monica Jonathan Club.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.53.219 (talk) 06:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree with you. I'll verify the notability of the listed alums and hopefully we can shorten the list to those who are nationally known only. — Johnl1479(talk) 07:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality, My 2 pence 

message: This article is substantial, but it may be missing important content and/or contains some irrelevant material. IAW the quality scale, it is rated C, Low. --Morenooso (talk) 19:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article rating re-assessed

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message: Unsourced content can be challenged and removed. Editors restoring challenged content have the burden of providing in-line citations supporting the material.  Material in the 'Sports' section was removed for being unsourced (not verifiable by the reader) after being tagged with citation needed for months. All of that material has been restored with a portion now supported by in-line citations.
 claims that WP:BEFORE applies here.  WP:BEFORE addresses steps to take before nominating an article for deletion.  That is not the case here. I have no intention of nominating this article for deletion.  Nothing is lost by removing unsourced material.  It can all be found in the edit history. 
Because challenged material was restored without meeting the burden of supplying supporting references I will again remove unsourced material.  Editors are welcome to re-add material if they can supply the necessary citations.Gab4gab (talk) 19:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The average wikipedia reader has no clue about edit history or how to search backward for information.  When you make something disappear from public view, do it for a reason.  The content in question was simply unsourced.  A tag was placed on that in February, so it had not been there as much as a year.  The statements about, for example, state championships is something that is verifiable.  I was able to search and source the content related to one sport and it all proved to be true statements.  If you have an objection to content, particularly if you think it is false information, you should take action.  Your first action should be to prove your assumptions in one way or the other.  If you see a trend of false information, then you can assume the rest of that content to be false; delete it.  In the opposite, if you find the contributions have been made in a genuous fashion, you should assume the rest of that to be similarly true.  The key thing is, removing content is a destructive act.  Your brain is not infallible, do not just trust your assumption.  When you assume . . .  Do some research.  Use google or some other search engine.  Make sure you are deleting content from a factual basis, otherwise you are just a destructive element to wikipedia. Trackinfo (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Editors have different opinions about what an editor should do. My opinion is that all claims of exceptional accomplishment should be independently sourced either with an in-line citation or a general reference at the time they are added. If the editor doesn't know of a source they may be doing original research. While we disagree in our opinions I hope we are able to agree that editors should follow the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia that represent the consensus of editors. Gab4gab (talk) 18:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content removed as unsourced/unverifiable