Talk:Puzzle

message: * Category makeup no longer seems clear (or perhaps has never been), e.g, sliding (block) puzzles could fit in both under transport puzzles and under shuffling puzzles.
** Agreed. Is there a reference we can cite for "types of puzzles" that would help with this organization? --Glp 22:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: *The puzzle archive of the rec.puzzles newsgroup
** This one clearly belongs here and I've added it back. Canon 17:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: OK

message: *Puzzle Press - providers of puzzles
** Clearly commercial. No reason for us to link to this site. — mark ✎ 10:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Not OK

message: *Aha! Puzzles
**no real added value — mark ✎ 09:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: --Glp 22:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Under review

message: *The Etymology section is great. However, reading for the first time, I wanted to read the context of how Dudley forst used the word 'puzzle'. Could a short quote from Dudley's book where uses the word 'puzzle' be placed here? One line would be enough. As a reader, I'm just left wanting more.Drakonicon 16:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Puzzles in History

message: Some of the items on this page are clearly games not puzzles.  A distinction should be made.
--REMAIA 03:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Games vs Puzzles

message: :(from article text) In certain temples of Japan monks used to write mathematical puzzles on on temple walls.
A sentence crying out for references if ever I saw one.  I've linked sangaku which is my best guess at what is being referred to, but I have doubts as to whether they qualify as puzzles in the usual sense.  —Blotwell 11:05, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Resolved Issues

message: *Zentangle Does this kind of new art-form fit into the concept of puzzle that this article would benefit from? Developing the idea of a puzzle as a philosophical and artistic tool?Drakonicon 16:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Issues

message: *Per Wrathchild-K's edits and some brief discussion with him, I now advocate minimal linkage here. This is both policy (see Wikipedia:External Links, specifically, "Links should be kept to a minimum") and, in the case of this page, necessary lest this become a web directory, which Wikipedia decidedly is not. Websites that enhance the reader's understanding of what a puzzle is would be relevant in an encyclopedia; websites that simply have puzzles on them, commercial or otherwise, are not. A link to a site that presents the archetypal example of a particular puzzle, should such a site exist, might be relevant here, but more likely belongs on that puzzle-type Wikipedia page. I'd love to hear more commentary regarding this issue, here or on my talk page. Thanks.--Glp 21:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the history of this article, there has been an ebb and flow in the external links section.  This is understandable given the money to be made from linking to advertising-supported sites.  Some of these advertising-supported sites are quite good, in that they contain large, organized collections of well-edited puzzles with solutions.  However, once one of these sites is added, it is invariably quickly followed by a number of sites of lesser quality.  Then someone becomes concerned and deletes the entire external links section.  Then the cycle starts anew.  In addition there is your observation that perhaps this page should mainly be a gateway to pages on other puzzle types.  This is what the rec.puzzles archive  has evolved into over the years.  The topic of "puzzle" is perhaps so general as to be meaningless. Canon 21:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links revisited

message: I notice that Zest Online Riddle redirects here, all the other online riddles redirect to the Online_Puzzle page. As Zest is the same as the others, should it not be redirected to the same page? VampBites 14:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here, I was redirected from Not Pr0n, notpron, etc. JellyFish72 03:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirects 

message: We need a history of the puzzle on when the first puzzle was made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:You're right. The earliest known word puzzle was the Sator square, which was found in ancient roman ruins. Mechanism-based puzzles like chinese locking rings are much older. I don't really have any references though. Marasmusine 09:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  puzzle's History 

message: This article has been featured in Not Always Right. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 00:40, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get it. DreamGuy (talk) 16:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: A point of interest

message: The article used to have a section devoted to the term metagrobology, which it claimed was the study of puzzles. It was extremely poorly sourced, though. The article on that same name only had two sources. The first was a really minor trivial mention lacking in serious information from a page that does not meet WP:RS guidelines. The second was to a source that normally counts as reliable but explicitly mentions that the information it was presenting about metagrobology came from Wikipedia itself. Wikipedia cannot prove something is real by citing a source that cites the same Wikipedia entry. At any rate, the term was extremely trivial even if it were true, poorly sourced, and incorrect anyway (it's well known by those into puzzles that enigmatology is the preferred term). Wikipedia should not be used to promote a neologism's use to try to popularize it. DreamGuy (talk) 04:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Metagrobology

message: "Mathematical puzzles include the missing square puzzle and many impossible puzzles — puzzles which have no solution"
If something is impossible is it really a "puzzle"?  It is, after all, trivially simple to create an impossible mathematical situation (e.g, experss the exact value of Pi as a positive integer), or a mechanical situation (e.g., separate two interlocking complete metal rings, without cutting or otherwise destroying either ring).  
A. Mirriam-Webster defines "puzzle" as "to offer or represent to (someone) a problem difficult to solve or a situation difficult to resolve".   "Difficult" is not synonymous with "impossible".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 20:07, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "Impossible" genre?