Talk:Nobiin language

message: I added a website link: http://napata.org/language.html Although the website is called Napata, is this data on Nobiin?  The form for 10 is dime which is Nobiin versus dimini which is Dongolawi and Kenuzi.  This is why I added z to the list of phonemes. Imperial78
:I can't seem to load that website. — mark ✎ 11:41, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed it.  It should work now Imperial78
BTW, I have revamped the phoneme tables and added some notes on the occurrence of [z] and other sounds that were not originally part of Nobiin's phoneme inventory. — mark ✎ 12:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Website Link is Nobiin?

message: Nubians. The observation (in the summary section) "Many Nobiin speaking Nubians were forced to relocate in 1963-1964 due ..." may be moved to Nubians Article Stub. Reference to that fact may be shown in Geography. (BTW, "Korosko in the North" is not shown on the map). --Connection 11:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point about Korosko, I'll see about adding that sometime. As for the article Nubians, some info of our article here might indeed be relevant there, too. Feel free to edit and move! — mark ✎ 12:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Waw. That was quick!  --Connection 12:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Ah, that's the weak point of this article presently (see also the todo-box above). Werner does note a lot of Arabic loanwords in his 1987 Grammatik. The studies by Marianne Bechhaus-Gerst (see the bibliography over at Nubian languages) provide the broader comparative view. For more historical details on the Old Nubian language and its alphabet, I would consult Browne's work. And you're right: the fact that Old Nubian was written in a variant of the Coptic script (with some additional characters that seem to come from Meroitic) must mean that the languages somehow have been in contact; and contact presumable means influence. — mark ✎ 14:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Much instructive. Now I remember that Noub is a term for "Gold" in Ancient Egyptian and Coptic "Νουβ". May be because Nubia was a trading route for gold. Incidentally, "dhahab" the equivalent in Arabic (or "dahab", according to the phonology of the dialects in Egypt and Sudan), is a common family name in Nubia. --Connection 17:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also one of the names of Nubia as used by Nubians themselves (bilad ed Dahab). The term "Nubia" as referring to the modern geographic region is thought to have come into use during the Graeco-Roman era, but there is some evidence to suggest that it was used by ancient Egyptians even earlier. Reference to Nubians and their lands in Egyptian texts vary—one of the most widely used pertains to the Nubians' famed archery. It's a skill and a reputation they held well into the modern period. You might be interested in Makuria — Zerida 22:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Organization 

message: There is reference here and in the Nubian languages article to "the extended SESCO system" of Arabic transcription. I have been looking for info on this and wonder if ISESCO (Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) is intended instead? They sponsored some work on extended Arabic orthographies.--A12n 20:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it should be ISESCO. — mark ✎ 08:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any good sources on what the (extended) ISESCO system consists of? – Sean M. Burke 03:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "SESCO" or "ISESCO"? 

message: Hi, Im originally Sudanese(from Nubia aka "Halfa").  My parents always speak the "Nobiin" language so I was able to understand many of the words but I am unfortunately not fluent in my tribal language.  I was wndering if you know of any books that would be of assistance in learning this language.  It would be great if you could refer me to any sources.  Thanks!
:Great that you're taking interest in the language! Do you prefer the Latin or the Arabic script to read about Nobiin? And do you mind if it's in German? Werners (1987) Grammatik des Nobiin still is a great source to begin with. Lots of examples throughout the text, more than twenty verbal paradigms written out, and some lengthy Nobiin texts about daily life in Nubia. If you email me, I can send you some scanned pages to give you an idea of what it looks like.
:BTW, I don't know if you're still with your parents and if you have the technical means, but it would be great if you could record some of the example sentences of this article as they are spoken by a native speaker of Nobiin. Just dreaming here. — mark ✎ 08:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Learning Nobiin 

message: This article received its Good Article rating on 4 February 2006 from an editor who hearkened back to a kinder, gentler era when it was not outside of norms to just simply plonk down a Good Article tag for no other reason than WP:ILIKEIT. Alas, the standards for retaining this pretty green trinket have tightened over the year; in the present regime, someone unassociated with writing this article (a reviewer) should examine the article with respect to the good article criteria and, on the various standards cited, expresses up, down, or neutral sentiments, plus an aggregate sentiment, upon which retaining the pretty little trinket relies. By posting this remark here, I'm not suggesting that the article has gone bad or presently fails the criteria, but I am noting the absence of a review that is a hallmark of the present process, and, in the fullness of time, a review should be performed on this article. With the absence of a review, this article is a delisting candidate. Note that, for an editor to delist this article, the due-diligence of a good article review is required so that specific reasons for delisting can be given by the dislisting editor; anything short of that is unfair to editors who contribute to this article regularly and in good faith. Drop any questions about this on my talk page. Take care — Gosgood 13:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A GA Review will be needed soon 

message: hi im nubian from egypt and i never heard anyone call our dialect "nobiin", im not sure how to write it in english but its kinda like fidjica, so we call ourselves fidjicawiya.--195.229.235.41 (talk) 20:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, thank you for stopping by! Fiadidja/Fiadicca is listed as a term corresponding to one dialect of Nobiin (the other is Mahas). As the article has it (based on Werner's grammar of the language), "Nobiin" is the genitive form of Nòòbíí "Nubian" and literally means "(language) of the Nubians". Nobiin is thus used as an umbrella term for both the Mahas and Fiadicca dialects. Does that help? — mark ✎ 09:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  why is it called "Nobiin"? 

message: The list is missing a lot of references and may not meet the GA criteria anymore. The history section is completely unreferenced and many others as well.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wanted to do an indiviual assessment and delist, i doubt anyone would disagree that this article doesn#t meet current GA criteria.YobMod 06:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I wanted to point this out here first so any watching users could see what could be done. Isn't there an effort to keep this GA?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 16:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: With nearly a year since the ladt talk page post, and a not so active project, i doubt it. I would  at the top of this page, and wait a reasonable time - if no one comes forth with a plan to improve, then reassess.YobMod 16:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this meet GA criteria? 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: In the subsection Vowels in section Phonology, example forms like bálé seem to directly contradict the legal phonotactics rules listed right above. Can someone address this? Is this a typo, or is the phonotactics wrong?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.118.173.88 (talk) 03:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly illegal forms in examples