Talk:List of compositions by Igor Stravinsky

message: I am missing any reference to this arrangement by Stravinsky of JS Bach's work. Canonic_Variations_on_"Vom_Himmel_hoch_da_komm%27_ich_her" Pemboid (talk) 09:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Canonic variations on the Christmas hymn Vom himmel hoch, da komm ich her

message: As noted in the French and the Dutch Wikipedia, some experts have catalogues with all (or most) of Stravinsky's compositions classified. I wanted to make a section in this article about it; however, it would be too long and potentially confusing. Should I create another article or should I create a section within this article? I'm not sure of what to do, nor am I sure about how to do it. Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 00:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quite sure I understand what exactly you propose. If it is additional lists by numbers according to Harry Halbreich, Clifford Caesar, and Eric Walter White numbers, I suggest the French approach with a single list/table which provides all numbers, as more suitable. I find the duplicate treatment at List of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven wholly unsatisfactory. On the other hand, I have no idea of how widely used any of the Stravinsky numbering systems are and whether the effort is worth it. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would be convenient if compositions could be listed and sorted according to those numbers (e.g., List of compositions by Béla Bartók). However, I also think this article's current listing is great; I don't want to change it, but I think adding information about the catalogues would make it more complete. Given that, I was wondering about whether to create a new section with a table similar to that of Béla Bartók's works or to create a new article, in order to prevent this article from taking too long to load. Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 12:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The current labelling of compositions into "Opera/Theatre – Ballet – Orchestral – ..." can easily be accomodated in a comprehensive table, very much like the Bartók table you mention. In other words, there should be 1 sortable table providing all the information. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I will start to work on it as soon as I can. Thank you. Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 17:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catalogues 

message: Michael Bednarek and me have working on a sortable list that would include all the works (here's the link, so you can have a look: List of compositions by Igor Stravinky). It's still incomplete: it lacks arrangements and adaptations from other composers. Would you like to substitute it? Do you like this one better? Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Substitution? 

message: In the process of trying to sort out which CD I own contains which works, I found that references to this work rarely, if ever, include the word "Russian". It is confused with the Russian Peasant Songs (a 1954 arrangement of the Four Russian Peasant Choruses of 1917) and the Four Russian Songs of 1919.
I have eliminated the word "Russian" from the title of this work.
The Four Russian Peasant Songs for female voice unaccompanied (1917) appears to be a conflation of the Four Russian Peasant Choruses of 1917 and the Four Russian Songs for voice and piano of 1919, but the situation is too muddled for me to be sure. If anyone reading has access to a definitive catalogue of Stravinsky's works and can resolve this mess, please speak up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floozybackloves (talk • contribs) 02:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as the 1954 songs with flute, harp, and guitar are concerned, the "definitive catalogue" in Eric Walter White's 1979 Stravinsky: The Composer and His Works, second edition, says on p. 279: "With these Songs an element of confusion enters into the nomenclature of Stravinsky's works. Pn the title page of the first impression they are called 'Four Songs'; but in the running headline above the first song they appeared as 'Four Russian Songs'. In order to avoid confusion with the Four Russian Songs (38) and the Four Russian Peasant Songs (30), it is best always to refer to them as the Four Songs". The confusion begins with the fact that the first of these songs ("The Drake") is in fact an arrangement of No. 1 of the Four Russian Songs, no. 38 in White's listing. I would say you have made a wise edit here.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 07:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four Russian Songs, for mezzo-soprano, flute, harp and guitar (1954) 

message: The various catalogs seem to have been added by User:Ron_Oliver but with no mention of where they were sourced from. Any ideas? What do the 'HH', 'CC' and 'W' even stand for? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 03:13, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for catalogs? 

message: In order to link better with IMSLP DpMusicman (talk) 06:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consider adding K numbers? 

message: I think we should cut the excessive amount of catalog numbers here. Looking at FLs List of operas by Claudio Monteverdi and List of operas by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, they only include the most prominent catalog numbers for the composer  (SV and K numbers, respectively). In my opinion, the KV catalog is the most appropriate to use for Stravinsky. If there are no objections, I'm going to remove the catalog numbers (excluding opus) and replace them with the KV numbers. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 19:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, I'd like to merge the two sections to make one large table. I feel that the two sections are unnecessary when we could just put a "Notes" column in the table. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cutting catalog numbers and merging sections