Talk:Dignity in Dying

message: Michael Irwin runs this organisation and escorts old ladies who are 'tired of life' to one of Dignitas owner Minelli's clinics in Switzerland for a huge fee.  Irwin was struck off in 2005, but the liberal democrats have put one of their 'leadership trainees' in charge of DID.
The article is biased and unsourced beyond any acceptable level for  isn't actually about 'medicine' (it is about legalising physician assisted suicide) and isn't really a wiki page,   I moot for deletion.79.74.104.190 (talk) 19:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: This is basically an Advertisement for Dignitas and its tax-avoiding sattelites in Switzerland

message: Unless you link to the actual polls, it isn't evident that they simply do not show any of the things you suggest. What is this, free advertising?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.104.190 (talk) 19:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The source from the BHA clearly states the result of the poll. You may not agree with the source IP, but please offer some evidence to contradict them rather than simply deleting the source or entering your own editorial into the article. Thanks. Dolescum (talk) 20:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Only source I could find from the British Social Attitudes survey was in BSA 34, where the number was 78%. Issue with this is that it's clearly a different figure, and it's not from 'British Social Attitudes 2009-2010' as cited in the page. Not willing to make any changes, as it was only a quick search. Both IP and editor who posted original figure seem to be wrong. Source found here: http://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/media/39147/bsa34_moral_issues_final.pdf Tomtiger11 (talk) 16:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've updated that section with a sourced poll. Jdee4 (talk) 17:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Alleged Polls 

message: I think this article can be expanded to explain a bit more about the DiD organisation and its aims within the context of the current debate on assisted dying legislation in the UK. Any thoughts or objections before I give it a go ? 
Miltonkeynesman (talk) 20:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dignity in Dying wikipage 

message: Well now, the whole 'History' section is a somewhat abbreviated version which conveniently leaves out the whole history of the changes to and from the name 'EXIT'. I know DiD would prefer these events to be forgotten, or now not known, but they are an integral part of the history of the organisation, and Wikipedia should not be the instrument of some Stalinist revision of history. I doubt any printed source can be referenced, and libel laws would need to be negotiated, but I am sure for example - the publication of 'A Guide To Self Deliverance' June 1979 - June 1981, which resulted in the membership growing at 1,000 a month to 10,000; the replacing of 11 of the 12 strong committee by an EGM on 18th October 1980; the trials of the Secretary Nicholas Reed and Mark Lyons for aiding and abetting suicide and the guilty verdicts on 30 October 1981; and the eventual overthrow of the radical Committee by instituting a postal vote, should be covered. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/30/newsid_2465000/2465183.stm. Nicholas Reed went on to found the Friends of West Norwood Cemetery
[In fact I see that 'A Guide To Self Deliverance' itself gives a calendar of its publishing history, but it is probably not in any libraries]
89.168.82.5 (talk) 12:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . —Tom Morris (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: EXIT

message: I am editing the history section slowly and have found inconsistency between sources. The book by A.B. Downing and Barbara Smoker 'Voluntary Euthanasia' lists the switch from 'Voluntary Euthanasia Legalization Society' (VELS) to 'Euthanasia Society' as happening in 1960 while the Kemp source (p. 154) lists it as changing to the 'Euthanasia Society' at the 1955 AGM citing a document "CMAC/SA/VES/A.11 AR 1955, p. 4", a document in the Voluntary Euthanasia Society Archives held at the Contemporary Medical Archives Centre, Wellcome Institute for the History of Medicine, Euston Road, London (as cited p.56 in Kemp).
I'm leaning towards trusting Kemp more on the grounds that it is a more up-to-date scholarly source published through a university press based on archival research rather than a publication made by people sympathetic to the goals of the society. I will also contact Dignity in Dying to confirm that the chronology in the article is correct. Until I find a second source that backs up the Downing/Smoker date or until someone gives me good reason to act otherwise, I'm going to stick with Kemp's dating when in doubt. Any objections? —Tom Morris (talk) 11:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change source justification 

message: You should update to include the shambolic roll out of this DoH 'End of Life Care Pathway' or at least a link to a separate page on it.
Also, the article states "Additionally, a person can also state in their advance decision what life-sustaining treatment they do wish for, although doctors do not ultimately have to respect that request."  Several cases of well informed people having advance decisions REFUSING the LCP and its off licence doses of drugs that kill in combination, which were totally ignored.  This means the LCP is indeed compulsory - you can't get out of it, and it is therefore 'involuntary euthenasia' ie manslaughter in UK law. 212.139.111.77 (talk) 22:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liverpool Care Pathway - additional section 

message: I don't see what relevance the section Advance decisions has directly to Dignity in Dying, this topic is covered sufficiently in the article Advance_healthcare_directive#England_and_Wales.
Therefore I believe the section Advance decisions should be removed to ensure all content has specific relevance to Dignity in Dying as an organisation and not just related the wider subject of end of life decisions. Jdee4 (talk) 20:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dignity_in_Dying#Advance_decisions|Advance decisions]]