Talk:Jook-sing

message: I don't get the metaphor. Water poured in one end of a bamboo container doesn't come out the other... fine... but what does that have to do with not being in either culture? --ESP 08:44, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I jut tried expanding the explanation in the article.  I don't claim I understand it either.  Samw 12:52, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Metaphor

message: There's been an attempt to move this to Wiktionary.  Please continue discussion at Talk:Egg (person). Samw 03:17, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiktionary 

message: I don't think FOB is perjorative any more. When you see a CBC use the term "fobby" non-perjoratively, it is very difficult to justify calling "FOB" "perjorative". —Wing 00:57, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold!  Feel free to elaborate the article. Samw 03:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: FOB

message: The article content here does not seem to agree with the usage I see in HK.  Jook-sing is not terribly perjorative and there are several other points of disagreement with the facts in this article.  Thoughts anyone? novacatz 11:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Pejorative isn't "terrible" but it's definitely not intended to be positive/praise.  See the first reference.  (It's available under Google Print, per the first footnote).  However, I'm surprised this term would be used in HK; presumably everyone in HK is fluent in Cantonese?  :-)  And yes, by all means start re-writing some of the generic stereotypes in the rest of the article.  Samw 00:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Why is the usage in Hong Kong significant to this American term?  The word originated from Chinatowns outside of China.  How this term evolved after being imported back to China is really irrelavant to the original meaning.  Kowloonese 01:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Jook-sing represent different status in different place. In the original meaning coming from Chinatown, Jook-sing means someone who cannot fit in which by definition is perjorative.  When a Jook-sing goes to Hong Kong (which has been a Chinese community welcoming Western things), he/she receives a special status.  A jook-sing represents someone who could speak better English, has experienced more than just the 400 square miles territory known as Hong Kong.  To some people of Hong Kong, Jook-sing is someone special and admirable.  Of course, by definition, jook-sing in Hong Kong is not pejorative. Should this wikipedia written in the English speaking people's perspective?  Or in the Hong Kong people's perspective?  Kowloonese 02:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to disagree that the term is used in HK as some form of praise and that a Jook-sing is considered "special and admirable".  Firstly, the term isn't in very common usage to begin with.  Jook-sings or Westernised Chinese in HK is much more commonly referred to as simply Gwailo or Gwaijai, meaning, locals in HK refer to Westernised Chinese as simply westerners.  Some do it because they feel it is a matter of fact, others to make fun of Westernised Chinese.  Hong Qi Gong 19:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know it's equally common in Hong Kong to call such people jook sing jai. — Instantnood 19:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage in HK 

message: The entire "Stereotyped values and cultures" section doesn't sound NPOV at all.  Can we cite some sources for what's in that section to back up those claims?  Hong Qi Gong 10:24, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stereotyped values and cultures doesn't sound NPOV 

message: This user is persistently and repeatedly making major changes (mostly deletions) to the article, without Edit summary or Talk page discussion, despite repeated requests to do so in Edit summaries and on the users Talk page.
We seem to be facing an insoluble communication problem which indicates possible competency problems.
It's equivalent to vandalism. I intend to simply revert the most recent and any future such edits, without any further attempt to explain. HiLo48 (talk) 02:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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