Talk:Illinois Tollway oasis

message: : "While rare in the US, this form of development is common in the UK."
It's true that the UK has full services on most of its toll-free motorways (freeways) - but surely it's also true that such developments are common along tolled interstates in the US? In fact I think they exist on all of the tolled sections of I-90 from Illinois to the east coast (the Northwest Tollway, Chicago Skyway (a McDonalds at the toll plaza), Indiana Toll Road, Ohio Turnpike, New York State Thruway and Massachusetts Turnpike). As far as I'm aware, the only really unusual aspect of the Illinois oases is that most of them are built above the road, with pedestrian entrances from both parking areas.
Mtford 00:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But that's the point. They're not permitted on the free highways, which the United States certainly has thousands more miles of, and really only exist in a few states with toll highways. I can't think of any such developments in Kansas or Oklahoma, for example, and I've driven both. --JohnDBuell 01:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. I don't remember seeing service areas on the Kansas Turnpike when I last visited, but the article provides photographic evidence of their existance. Still, if it's only the toll/turnpike authorities that have some sort of service center/plaza (and there aren't any listed for Indiana, nor the North Texas system, along with Oklahoma), that's only about six out of fifty states. I'd say that's uncommon enough... --JohnDBuell 01:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indiana has them: see this map. I agree that 7 out of 50 states is uncommon - but I think "rare" is the wrong word for the article. Rarity suggests that the service plazas are distributed randomly with a low density - in fact there is a very high density of service plazas in areas where toll roads exist (e.g. seven in one metropolitan area!), but those areas themselves are rare. Saying that service plazas are rare in the US is like saying that Americans are rare in the world, on the grounds that they make up only 5% of the population (i.e. they are not so rare if you look in the appropriate place). Mtford 20:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well okay, but they do have at least an uncommon distribution for total mileage over U.S. Interstate Highways. So perhaps "While an uncommon sight along Interstate Highways in the United States, this form of development...." ? --JohnDBuell 21:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

text: * I have added Pennsylvania and Florida to the list.  I can't think of any state-run, long distance toll road system that does not have commerical rest areas. Racepacket (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rare in the US?

message: This is not a unique phenomenon; this article should be merged to Highway oasis, which should possibly be merged to Rest area.  Any objections? —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-28 09:38Z
* Although it is not unique to Illinois, there is enough specific here to deserve Wikipedia coverage.  They have enough secondary sources to establish notability. Racepacket (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge to [[Highway oasis]] 

message: Is the Des Plaines Oasis truly closed? Reading the press release, it sounds like the overpass and restaurants are closed, but the 7-11 and gas station remain. The Trib article calls out this detail and adds a "for the time being" caution on it. This may need resolution of what the oasis consists of: is it the overpass portion and the rest is support or is any toll-free stop along the tollway an oasis?
User:Iowajason   — Preceding undated comment added 19:32, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
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