Talk:MIT class ring

message: OK.  Given that the article Massachusetts Institute of Technology is bursting at its seams with cruft already, we really don't need to be pumping more into it.  Anville 15:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: Can someone clarify which finger the ring is supposed to be worn on? This is a very detailed and informative article, but I couldn't find the single piece of information that I came here the find. Anonymous.translator (talk) 23:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which finger? 

message: "It is said that the Brass Rat is the second most recognizable ring after the Superbowl ring."
That seems to come from MIT's Class of 1975 President, William Wang: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2000/1975-0607.html
Nationalparks 04:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: and the way it is presented in the article here on wiki makes it look like it is commonly said . . . in fact, it was merely an opinion stated.  I'm similarly disappointed that the VMI article suggests their rings are heavier than Superbowl rings, with no citation.  More ego strokes, that's all.--Vidkun 15:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

text: "Members of the Class of 1975 relied not only on skills learned at MIT but also, literally, on the "brass rat." Observing that there are "three recognizable rings in the world&emdash;the Brass Rat, the West Point ring and the Super Bowl ring," Mr. Wang asked the group, "How many wear their MIT rings all the time?" Numerous hands went up." - http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2000/1975-0607.html Psycadelc 21:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recognizable Rings 

message: I have replaced the image of the "original brass rat" on this page with a verifiable image of the 1930 ring. No source was given for the previous image, which conflicted both with the advertisement to its right and with the ring on display at the MIT Museum. Previous image more closely resembles the rings made in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Pigsfly33 23:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Brass Rat 

message: Man, it's wonderful that nobody can quickly see what the 2007 ring looks like.  I'm intrigued though as to why only the 2007 bezel image was removed, since it seems that basically none of the source websites for the pictures have an explicit GNU or release-from-copyright notice.  I mean, if we're going to blindly adhere to the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of the law (and ignore the doctrine of fair use), then we might as well be consistent, right?  So why weren't all the images tagged for deletion?  Laziness?  Hypocrisy?  Fair use is what it is--how a particular user "feels" about the inclusion of such images in a free content encyclopedia is utterly irrelevant.  71.206.188.198 17:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, picture of the 2007 ring? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mit ring bezel 2007.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:MIT ring 1930.jpg

message: :Image:Brass Rat Advertisment 1933.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Brass Rat Advertisment 1933.jpg

message: If you ask me, it clutters the page. Vasant56 (talk) 06:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say keep the depictions, because (a) they're in a table at the bottom, and (b) the ring design changes every year. Awickert (talk) 02:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Is listing every depiction of the Ring really necessary?

message: The claim that the Brass Rat is one of "three recognizable rings in the world—the Brass Rat, the West Point ring, and the Super Bowl ring" is a very extraordinary claim, which, according to WP:REDFLAG, must be supported by equally extraordinary evidence.  Because it is sourced to quote from William S. Wang, MIT's 1975 Senior Class president.  That is simply not enough to substantiate such a claim under WP:V.--GrapedApe (talk) 04:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

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