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message: I preface the following with recognition that, for novelty, the creators of the franchise intentionally gave a different name to instalments of the franchise in their western release to what would be the accurate translation of the original Japanese title. I assume this intention provides justification for putting the English-market title for each instalment in the article titles even where the original Japanese-market release is what is being discussed foremost, or the Japanese-market releases of the work as a synecdoche for all releases of the work. 
1995-1996: The TV series. The Japanese title of the series, 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン, translates (liberally) to 'Gospel Of The New Century'. In the west it is titled 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'.
1997-1998: There was then a project to create an Evangelion Feature film. This project was released in several goes, at varying stages of completion, all under the banner of '新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版', which translates to 'Gospel Of The New Century: The Movie' (or 'The Feature Film' instead of 'The Movie'; take your pick). These 'several goes' are as follows:
• March 1997: A preview movie. The Japanese title, 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 DEATH & REBIRTH シト新生, translates to 'Gospel Of The New Century: The Movie: Death And Rebirth'. Some Japanese publicity materials also feature English titles 'Evangelion:Death' and 'Evangelion:Rebirth' for the two parts. In the west it is titled 'Neon Genesis Evangelion: Death & Rebirth'. 
• July 1997: A movie that serves as an alternate ending to the TV series. The Japanese title, 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン劇場版Air/まごころを、君に, translates to 'Gospel Of The New Century: The Movie: Air / Sincerely Yours'. In the west it is titled 'The End Of Evangelion'. I don't know whether the title 'The End Of Evangelion' was ever used in the original Japanese release's graphics and materials but it was definitely not the primary title used e.g. in advertisment posters and announcements there, at the time or since. 
• March 1998: The final, collated version of the film. The Japanese title, 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 DEATH(TRUE)²/Air/まごころを、君に, translates to 'Gospel Of The New Century: The Movie: Death(True)² / Air / Sincerely Yours'. Japanese publicity materials also bear the English title 'Revival Of Evangelion'. In the west this was originally released on home video in the USA as 'Neon Genesis Evangelion: The Feature Film', but since then the convention has become to split it into two features, 'Death(True)²' and 'The End Of Evangelion' with no intermission linking them like the 'Revival' release has - this is the case on the 2019 Netflix streaming release, for example.
This can be gleaned already from the pictures used in the articles for the above. I think the articles can be amended to make the difference in titles between markets clearer since, for instance, the section on 'Revival' in the 'Death & Rebirth' article until I amended it just now suggested that 'Revival Of Evangelion' was "re-named" to 'Evangelion: The Feature Film' on its blu-ray release which is incorrect as 'Revival' was always a secondary title to distinguish that last stage of the over-arching 'Gospel Of The New Century: The Movie' project in the first place and the blu-ray set bears the name of the work in Japanese as it was originally given in Japanese upon its theatrical release. I don't own the recent 2021 USA blu-ray box set, but if this sentence was referring to that box set and not the 2015 Japanese one & the western-market title 'Neon Genesis Evangelion: The Feature Film' is being used for the collated discs, as it was never called 'Revival Of Evangelion' in the west in the first place, it is incorrect to describe the feature as being 're-named' from 'Revival' as both markets are then still using the original title given to the work in each market. I think there are examples like this in the body of each of the articles for the above that omit or conflate the Japanese/English naming conventions described above, that could be amended.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmbroseCadwell (talk • contribs) 20:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistency of title translation convention across Evangelion-related articles on Wikipedia 

message: I've removed the following quote boxes per WP:MOS; these boxes draw undue attention to the material, forming  a kind of bias. I'm leaving them here for the benefit of future editors who may find them useful. See the article history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 22:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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message: The Japanese text in the lead sentence is so long it seriously damages the readability of the prose. The video game manual of style has this guideline:
I think we should do the same for this article. I moved it to a footnote, but this was reverted. I don't understand the reason given, that the title is "the correct one, technically" — no one is saying that isn't the correct title in Japanese and putting it in a footnote doesn't suggest that. Popcornfud (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. Mea culpa. You can do it. Just remember that it's The End of Evangelion (IIMN) and maybe to use the templates even in the footnote.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 00:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Which templates do you mean? Popcornfud (talk) 02:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean, the template for the Japanese.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 09:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still not entirely sure what you mean there, but I've restored the footnote. Let me know if there's a problem with it. Popcornfud (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited it. Maybe it's better in this way.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 20:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extensive Japanese in lead