Talk:Marine salvage

message: Not in favour of merging with treasure diving, ship salvage is not very related, there is just a passing kmention of diving in the article. 18:00, 12 June 2006 154.5.132.51
:It seems to me that treasure diving, marine salvage and marine salvage law should be three different articles. --Gbleem 13:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They're different subjects; I can see keeping the salvage law content here until the articles get too big, though.  Georgewilliamherbert 00:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Support merge.  The treasure hunting article emphasises that this is a legal activity - however, it is only legal because it falls under the principles of marine salvage.  The treasure hunting article specifically states that it applies to maritime salvage.  Viv Hamilton 09:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd like to see the treasure hunting article expanded. Legally, salvage is salvage, and that's covered nicely, but there is more to the treasure and historical aspect. Bring in some notable hunters and finds, for example.Lisamh 20:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: comments

message: I have removed the merge proposal tags.  Consensus is against doing it.  Georgewilliamherbert 20:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge removed 

message: "Marine salvage is the process of rescuing a ship, its cargo, or other property from peril."
I wouldn't describe salvage this way. This describes what coast guard rescue does, not salvage. I'm changing it.
97.113.105.224 (talk) 03:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad title sentence 

message: Should investigation be listed as a reason for salvage work? As an example, the efforts to recover Air France 447 right now - wouldn't this be a salvage operation for the purpose of determining why it crashed?
This was also part of the reason for the rediscovery of the Titanic. Most notably, they learned that the ship did split in two as it sunk.
97.113.105.224 (talk) 03:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Investigation 

message: i'd suggest perhaps:
* space shuttle challenger remains.
* that apollo space capsule that sunk. or was it mercury?
* recovery of the sully sullenberger jet.
Cramyourspam (talk) 05:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  to add to notable salvages 

message: The famous Stan Rogers song "The Mary Ellen Carter" is about a fictional ship salvage. Worth a mention here? --Ernieba1 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never heard of Stan Rogers or the song, so can't comment on its value to anyone looking up marine salvage. Why do you think it should be mentioned? • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marine salvage in popular culture 

message: In tidying some "in progress" cases that have since been resolved, I added a resolution to the Black Swan Project from it's own page. I'm finding the Vrouw Maria situation to be somewhat unclear. Phrases from the VM WP page specifically relevant to this one say the following: "The ship was in good condition when it was discovered, but only six objects from the deck of the ship have been salvaged. The cargo holds have not been disturbed, so the condition of any art on board remains unknown. The Finnish National Board of Antiquities is responsible for the ship and all recovery efforts." and that "A dispute between the discoverers and the authorities was later resolved." but not how. If anyone is able to say how this relates to the phrasing as it stands, clarification would be good.
: Current phrasing: "Vrouw Maria was discovered in 1999, and after a protracted legal battle, plans for salvage are still in the discussion and planning stage[citation needed]. It is known to contain priceless works of art." EmyP (talk) 12:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: So not actually a salvage yet. I have commented it out until the salvage is at least started.· · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:11, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable salvages 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the history section: 
"this meant that if a hose became severed, the high-pressure air around the diver's head rapidly evacuated the helmet causing tremendous negative pressure that caused extreme and sometimes life-threatening effects."
There's no such thing as negative pressure. That would be less than vacuum. I'd propose a better wording if I understood what the sentence tries to explain.
Hope someone does and takes care of this.
:Should have been negative pressure difference between the inside of the helmet and the surrounding water. This is a common error, and easy to fix. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 15:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative pressure? 

message: I've worked a lot on :Wrecking (shipwreck), which is about the 19th-century and earlier pursuit of salvaging shipwrecks. I'm looking at how to tie that history in with this article, but am not sure of how to do so. Any thoughts? - Donald Albury 12:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to historical wrecking 

message: An article titled "Marine salvage" that tells you everything except for the most important item - how marine experts go about salvaging a ship. 182.239.144.105 (talk) 08:46, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Working on it, do you have any suggestions? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 03:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Largely done, and the article is now much larger. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:14, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me know if I have missed anything important. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marine salvage - misnomer? 

message: I intend to edit the references to format them consistently as required for FA. My preference is for list format and CS2 templates, because I find them easier to maintain and the body text is less cluttered. If anyone has an objection, please suggest an alternative you are willing to set up and maintain, that provides an equivalent level of consistency and compliance with MoS and FAC requirements. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:23, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I'm concerned, consistency using a standard format is the main issue, so go for it. Donald Albury 15:47, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harmonising references for consistency as required for FA 

message: I plan to condense or summarise some of the content about underwater searches, and move the fully detailed stuff to Underwater searches, once I have worked out how best to do it. Constructive suggestions welcome. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 07:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . More trimming and copy editing may still be useful. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split out some details to merge into Underwater searches 

message: Hello all, I will be copyediting this article as a request posted in April 2023. I plan to correct some formatting issues as well as grammatical errors found within the paper. This will be a continuation of the copyedit shown above. Criticism welcome. TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 23:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , but several of the paragraphs I've copyedited may contain instructions / how-to content and may be too technical. TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 21:14, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  please specify what information in the article is instructional or "how to" as opposed to  how salvage is done, which is descriptive of the process, and a very different matter. Also, if you tag anything that needs explantion or clarification, that can be done. It is a technical topic to some technical language is to be expected, but where useful, it can be explained or linked. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 16:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upcoming major copyedit