Talk:Dolly zoom

message: The term used for this in the film industry is dolly-zoom. I'm a cinematographer by trade and I've never heard of a Hitchcock Zoom. I believe that Hitchcock was the first to do it but I don't think that his name stayed attached to it in common language. I think this page should be moved to dolly zoom. --Plowboylifestyle 03:46, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't ''Dolly Zoom'' more appropriate? 

message: Can anyone verify who invented the shot? And if the dolly zoom was in fact used in Hitchcock's Spellbound?
> Quoting a blog is probably insufficient to edit the article, and since the blogger himself didn't edit it, I assume he felt his evidence insufficient. However, FWIW, from http://www.charlespetzold.com/blog/2007/03/070716.html "(Wikipedia has a Dolly Zoom article that indicates the technique "appeared earlier at the climax to [Hitchcock's] film Spellbound," which dates from 1945. This is just plain wrong: The relevant scene in Spellbound is at 1:38:22 on the DVD and only looks like a dolly zoom if you don't know the boy is moving relative to the background. The camera is following the moving boy, so of course the background recedes, and there's nothing special about it. I suspect this particular shot was done with rear-screen projection.)" - so, not quite as good evidence as a Google video clip, but at least there's a time stamp to go off, for anyone who's got the video. DewiMorgan 15:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Irmin Roberts, a Paramount second-unit cameraman

message: Is it just me, or is that picture really annoying Gohst 01:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's annoying. Someone should make an animated gif of the Jaws or Vertigo shot. Best examples.--Cammoore 05:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, the vertigo shot is iconic- that is the one that should be used. Borisblue 06:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The Quick and the Dead has some great examples of this shot, also. --Stripes 16:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: I was under the impression that articles are meant to be printable. The use of an animated GIF breaks this. I suggest the frames are extracted from this animation and shown as part of the article. -- Andreas Toth (talk)00:45, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprintable article 

message: Hey, I just found this article, and there seem to be a few misconceptions. The article claims that the technique was developed in the 50's with Vertigo, but there are cases of the technique being used as early as the 1920's. (For instance, I distinctly remember the technique being used in Fitz Lang's Metropolis, which was released in 1927. Does anyone have more info on this? Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 23:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A time or scene index would be a helpful reference.  If this turns out to be the case, the article could be changed to state that the effect was popularized by its dramatic use in the film Vertigo ...Fredmdbud (talk) 04:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, that could be a problem. I saw the film a few years ago, and the version I saw was the ultra-rare Moroder cut, so getting a specific time would be difficult. However, if it helps at all, I know that it's the scene where  Freder finds Maria's handkerchief. In the meantime, I'll look for some uses. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 06:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've found a few sources we may be able to use, but nothing totally concrete as of  yet. here and here. I'm still looking for footage, though. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 06:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it! The clip itself is a fan-made music video, but the footage itself is from the film. The video is here, and the scene is at about the 2:43 mark.Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 07:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual origins 

message: The Purpose of the effect section seems to contain a lot of examples, and I wonder if these could be split off into a separate Notable uses section?
:Done.  (I did it before even seeing this comment.)  Now it would be good to explain in each example why it's notable.  The Lion King is notable because it is an animated simulation of a camera shot.  Jaws is notable because it popularized the shot for dramatic purposes.  I'm going to add a link to the TV Tropes article "Vertigo effect" for a laundry list of less notable uses. --BlueNight (talk) 17:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: @BlueNight I agree. The current examples paragraph could benefit from a list of film title, year, cinematographor, scene description. Vertigo, Jaws, all the way to Silent Moon. Theking2 (talk) 20:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose new section: Examples 

message: I've just added a newly created video with a dolly zoom to the article. I would like to improve this video and am looking for suggestions on how to do so. Useful feedback could include:
#Whether there is a better range of movement/angle of view to show of the technique to its best effect.
#What background/foreground objects could be used and in what arrangement.
#Colour schemes and other artistic rather than technical suggestions.
You can leave comments here or go to  Thanks. GDallimore (Talk) 16:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New video 

message: If anyone wants to incorporate this into the article, Alfred Hitchcock spoke to François Truffaut about the genesis of the effect in Truffaut's book of interviews with the director: "I always remember one night at the Chelsea Arts Ball at Albert Hall in London when I got terribly drunk and I had the sensation that everything was going far away from me. I tried to get that into Rebecca, but they couldn't do it. The viewpoint must be fixed, you see, while the perspective is changed as it stretches lengthwise." (Hitchcock/Truffaut, page 246) Davepattern (talk) 11:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone can edit this article. You might find  useful for referencing the book and I suggest trying to work this anecdote into the existing prose seamlesly rather than just tacking it onto the end. Happy editing! GDallimore (Talk) 18:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitchcock 

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message: The "Alternative Names" section is out of hand, with many variations and almost no sources.  It was tagged eight months ago for additional sources, but nothing yet.  And some what does have a citation is not properly marked (neither cite for "Hunter shot" uses that term, both calling it a "Vertigo shot".  I'm going to clean it up, remove anything unsourced.  If you can find a source for any of these terms, please add it back in.  SixFourThree (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Names section 

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