Talk:Characters of Kingdom Hearts/Archive 1

message: I feel kind of weird leaving that section in the article as it is. Most of the characters there also have their own sections so it's kind of weird to add them in again. Maybe merge with the Other Princesses of Heart section into a larger section of characters who don't have an associated world? Axem Titanium 06:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of summons, who are the KH2 summons? Therequiembellishere 04:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  In the order you're most likely to get them: Chicken Little, Genie , Stitch and Peter Pan. I completely forgot about Chicken Little, I had to go look it up. >< SirMeh 18:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summon Characters

message: I moved Moogles to Main Characters. Since all the other categories are divided by worlds that seems the most apt. place to put them- paul@wiki
:Hmmmm... I really wouldn't put them in with the main characters. Perhaps we should readd the minor characters section and merge the Other Princesses of Heart and Summon sections into it? Axem Titanium 04:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Who's geg? Axem Titanium 07:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone he seems to have trouble "containing".  He's one of the three regular Organization XIII editors, along with me and Apostrophe.—ウルタプ 00:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. So that relates to this... how? Axem Titanium 01:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Paul@wiki simply can't have Geg asserting correct, albeit inferred, information on the Organization XIII page regarding the time of Roxas's fusion with Sora.—ウルタプ 01:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: Axem Titanium, don't you realize that Merlin's world being destroyed by the Heartless is true?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.6 (talk • contribs) 
:Where's it said his world was destroyed?  He could be a native of Hollow Bastion for all we know.—ウルタプ 22:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone in Traverse Town ended up there because their world was destroyed.  However, not everyone who's world was destroyed all made it there.  Like the 99 dalmation puppies who ended up being scattered.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, one--The Fairy Godmother and Merlin are from different movies.  Second, if you want that dialogue ("too") thing to make a point, give me more specific dialogue; she could have been comparing herself to Sora (who also lost his world), not Merlin.  And I don't care much for your attitude.—ウルタプ 23:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merlin

message: I was reading the section on Roxas and I couldn't help but notice that it said he was created when Sora stabbed himself with the "Dark Keyblade". I don't beleive that the Keyblade Riku/Amsem/Xehanort made from the Princess' hearts is ever officially refered to as such. Additionally, the term Dark Keyblade could easily be attributed to King Mickey's Keyblade, the Keyblade of the Realm of Darkness. Unless Dark Keyblade is not a fan name and has been officially named such I think that there is probably a more suitable name for it. Ya, it's not that big a deal but I thought I'd point it out.
:Fixed. But please SIGN YOUR COMMENTS by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. Axem Titanium 23:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, we're limited on the amount of specific game information we can include in the articles. Too much and the articles become more like game guides and unencyclopedic. When that happens they go down in article rating. Information like that is normally added to Strategy Wiki. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Keyblade Confusion

message: As per AfD, I've deleted the Voice cast in the Kingdom Hearts series page, but I've archived its talk page here under Talk:List of characters in the Kingdom Hearts series/Voice cast, in case somebody wants it. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voice cast page

message: should the setting of the game really be considered characters?68.223.46.108 07:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: settings

message: Shouldnt the Hostile Program be in here? I mean it is considered a character in Jiminy's journal. Xer
:No. It showed up and got killed. There is nothing to say about it. Axem Titanium 22:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other characters

message: Donald has too much info for this page. It should go on his but the... People... There wonln't allow it. What should we do? Lego3400:  The Sage of Time 16:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Donald has a fine amount of detail for this page. If it is thought to be excessive by others watching this page, then feel free to start "Donald Duck in video games" or "Donald Duck in Kingdom Hearts". The excessive detail on this one game does not belong in the general article on the character. It goes here, or at one of the suggested titles above. — BrianSmithson 22:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, please don't start those pages, it would be very very bad. Donald's info is fine. Axem Titanium 00:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Donald

message: Should we split the page? It is a bit long. Icez 19:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A bit?! Atomic45 10:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Split

message: I think we should have a Major and minor characters page.Therequiembellishere 22:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor characters

message: There is a character listed here called "Enigmatic Soldier"... my question is, is that a place-holder name? My reason for believeing this is the fact it has two " symbols around it, although if it is a place-holder name I would say it should be called "Enigmatic Knight". BassxForte 03:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The kanji are . He may be said to look like a knight, but senshi is most commonly translated as "soldier" or "warrior."—ウルタプ 03:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, that's official. It's the extended scret ending for II Final Mix (like how "Another side, Another story..." was extended to "[deep dive]").—ウルタプ 02:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Soldier

message: Apparently someone has edited that section, putting in some speculation from the new Secret Ending. I will take that out, because while it is true, we should not say anything until we have more facts.HadesDragon 19:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done, actually, and I re-worded the previous sentence for grammar (poor capitalization) and to include Final Mix's extended version of the secret movie. Hope I haven't stepped on your toes or anything by doing that. ^^; Nique talk 19:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Speculation should be kept down to a bare minimum, and putting it in is only going to cause edit wars and a degradation in the quality of the article as a result. Nique talk 19:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Re-added the Enigmatic Soldier, using info from the translated opening scene. Also added a warning not to add any speculative info on the KH3 trailer.Fractyl
Hmmm, okay, that section looks good enough to be there. Very neutral and informative. But can we really be sure he suffered some form of memory loss? Sounds a bit like speculation...that's just me though.
I won't do anything, so don't worry.HadesDragon 22:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding the Xehanort section

message: It says he makes a minor appearance, and I'm assuming that's in Agrabah, but I can't really find him anywhere, so I'm wondering if this is a rumour or if you have to complete certain goals, which I think should be noted. 71.127.0.178 03:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's in Aladdin's house at some during the world's story. ' 04:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peddler/Merchant

message: http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/3909/pic0057ud3.jpg
It's pretty bad, but I doubt this is fake, you can see the knight's keyblade there and everything. Apparently it refers to him as a "Lingering Spirit" in the title and as an "Enigmatic Man" in the description. It also says his mastery of the keyblade's powers were superior to Sora. That was the translation I was able to find, at any rate (I would be glad if anyone was able to prove the authenticity of the screenshot and the translation).
Should we change his name to Lingering Spirit or keep it as Nazo no Senshi? I'm partial to changing it as Nazo no Senshi is just from Shonen Jump and Lingering Spirit is IN the game, but hey...HadesDragon 17:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Lingering Spirit" is not in the game. Whatever the Japanese name is is. I can't really be bothered to look for the Kanji, though. ' 18:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jiminy Entry for Enigmatic Soldier

message: I just found out that Tetsuya Nomura did name the other Keyblade Knights from the KH2: FM+ secret trailer. The blonde knights name is Ven which means "Wind", and the female knights name is Aqua which means... well "water". The Enigmatic soldiers name is unknown but it means "Earth". I was just thinking about telling these names to you guys.
Yeah, I read about that. But just wait a little bit. We don't know if the ES/Tomarishi Shinen's name  means earth YET, even though I'd bet that's very likely the case. 
In any case, I honestly don't know if we should bother adding either of them to the page at all, although I don't think it unreasonable to mention them in the TS's section.HadesDragon 20:57, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Better off waiting until they actually appear in the games. ' 01:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Soldier's Names

message: So apparently Apostrophe removed a few meaningless details from it, but I honestly think the fact that the Tomarishi Shinen can make his keyblade change its shape to act as various other things deserves mention, as nobody else in the series thus far has been able to dos so.HadesDragon 21:00, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we would be better off waiting until we know why. The main reason I reverted was because we don't give this much attention and detail to other characters that have more established backstory, like Tarzan, Simba, et al. Strikes me as a bad case of bias. ' 01:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About the Tomarishi Shinen section

message: I'm putting this artcle as semi-protection because someone just kept edit some info on Aqua's infomation and other characters info. John254 already gave this person a warning. If this is mistack, then please feel free to remove it. Thank you. --Girla PurpleHeart 19:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-Protection

message: They need to be removed, methinks. Besides being written in a fairly undesirable way, they contain speculation and unproven claims. I think it'd be better if we waited for them to appear in an actual GAME first.HadesDragon 23:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree they were written badly, I think it would be better to just make one small section about all 3 knights, or one about the Enigmatic Soldier like there already is, and the a combined one for Aqua & Ven.--67.174.128.249 00:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those claims have been proven now. Tetsuya Nomura has confirmed their names to be Terra, Aqua and Ven, and I think that's good enough reason for them to stay now. Jienum 21:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not. Those characters have never appeared in an actual game. When they're out of some meaningless and contextless trailer, we'll talk. ' 21:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, Aqua's armour appears in a cutscene in Final Mix+, so that should count for the least. Another thing is, that trailer is not necessarily meaningless and contextless if it's a secret video for the next installment. This is not a case of speculation. Those knights' names have been confirmed as Terra, Aqua and Ven, and if they appear in a secret trailer, they should have at least some mention. If not their own sections, then they should at least be mentioned in the Terra section ("Terra is seen along with two other knights", for instance). We shouldn't really treat them as if they don't exist. Jienum 12:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Aqua and Ven sections

message: Should we mention the fact that his name means "earth" in latin, in comparison to Riku's "land"? I think it's notable enough.HadesDragon 13:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding Terra's section

message: According to this(http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=16515), it's called "Gathering Place". Should that be added, or is it irrelevant?HadesDragon 17:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Gathering Place" doesn't really tell us anything. If it was "Chicken Nest", it wouldn't be any different. ' 02:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About the desert we fight Terra in