Talk:Regietheater

message: "British production of Verdi's 'Don Carlos' that at one point imported toilet cubicles"
Is this not the famous ENO production of Un ballo in maschera??
Vivaverdi 01:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I think so. I will change it. Kleinzach 10:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The production is by the Spanish director Calixto Bieito and was originally produced by the Liceu, Barcelona, in 2000. It has since been revived at ENO and Copenhagen. TFM04 (talk) 11:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Don Carlos or Un ballo in maschera?

message: We are discussing the title on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera. - Kleinzach 10:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As there have been no objections posted I have changed the title to Regietheater. This term may not be familiar to many English readers but it is explained in the article. - Kleinzach 09:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Doubts about the title of this article

message: I have removed the cleanup tag after wikifying, cleaning up and renaming the article. I hope that is acceptable to all. - Kleinzach 09:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup tag removed

message: The other main problem with this article is the absence of important information on the development of opera direction in Germany. Walter Felsenstein, rather than Wieland Wagner was really the father of Regietheater. Incidentally the Felsenstein article defines Regietheater as  " productions in which drama values come before musical ones" -- Kleinzach 03:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Felsenstein is rather credited as father of "Musiktheater" (which fits the description in his article better that "Regietheater"). He usually left the opera in the original setting and historical context, but emphasized the importance of psychological and dramatic staging over pure musical performance. Later, his students Götz Friedrich and Harry Kupfer took directing to a new level by bringing the historical drama into a modern context. So he might be called "Father of Musiktheater" or "Forefather of Regietheater". Actually, it's a long developement that started with abstract stagings in the 1920/30es. -- megA 10:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the Musiktheater article in the German Wiki would be worth translating. -- Kleinzach 13:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No mention of [[Walter Felsenstein]]?

message: I'm posting my version of the German WP article below, seeing as how we've been invited to discuss. I think it has some good discussion points, & in some ways is better than the current article.
Why not replace the current article with this? Well, ideally I'd like to see an article with more citations. And understandably the German article is very centered in the world of German culture.
I do like the fact that this one attempts NPOV (most of the time).Herbivore (talk) 00:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for doing this. I agree the text above is better than the present article. I know it's a lot of work but would it be possible to make this the basis of the article (adding whatever can be salvaged from the present version) suitably crediting the source of the information? It would be great if you have time to do this. Best regards. --Kleinzach 00:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: German article

message: I have re-deleted he controversy section, not because there is no criticism, but because what was there had been a tagged, uncited and opinionated set of text for several years. The one source didn't make the distinction between "proper" and improper regietheatre as claimed, just criticized one bad production.
I am not an opera enthusiast, and this will be my last contribution on the subject, but I would welcome a calmly written and well-sourced coverage if any controversies, of someone would choose to write one. The deleted text was not it. Pmyteh (talk) 12:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy section