Talk:Organic horticulture

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: "Organic pest control is not synonymous, but shares some concepts with integrated pest management."
How is it different?  Berean Hunter (talk) 00:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPM vs. Organic Pest Control differences 

message: http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html
Journey to Forever an NGO group has compiled what I think are great articles/books/reports containing some eastern and western observation by authors ranging from Weston A Price, Albert Howard, sir Robert Morrison, Joseph A. Cocannouer, George Oliver, Eugene Marias, water hyacinth, duckweed, mulberry leaves, guinea fowls, and other information of importance.
Even this list is incomplete, the Roman and Chinese agricultures, documented and can even still be seen in fragments. 
Lastly I know it is not a "logical" source but Adam-Cain/Abel & Noah in the bible can be examples of "organic" farming. Notice Cain and abel were neither able to outperform Adam the ability was diminished slightly on Adam's next generation, and their reliance on their skills were divided into tending land and herding sheep. By the time Noah came to be an ultimate farmer, he was able to fuse these two knowledges of animals and of plants (pigeon?, grape, bees probably, timber building). 
organic farming in its principle not based on technicality of words is probably simplified into protecting heirloom or "wild" type of seeds, and of course observing how nature works, how birds droppings can help fields, how the winter can kill a lot of germs, how a flood can bring silt to a normally low-fertility field, how everything is interconnected to each other. Why isn't urine taste like cola? 
By protecting heirloom seeds, it means DNA diversification to select the best not necessarily by its handling and spoilage date compared with say its vitamine and other unknown benefits still undetermined accurately by science. And not just inbreeding and linebreeding but to ensure vigor in the gene pool. 
Okay my opinions are probably uninformed and highly biased, but a lot of information out there from references specify about one subject usually, and it is hard to talk about horticulture or gardening without having livestock/humans/etc to tend it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.254.231 (talk) 12:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
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message: "Impact on global food supply" seems to be a good deal of controversial opinion without any cites. What's the usual way of handling that sort of thing?
ChickenFreak (talk) 06:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: Hello  This needs improvement. Invasive Spices (talk) 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Trying to add to the discussion on Horticulture vs Gardening. (sorry if this is not the correct place...) The difference between these two terms is not clear cut at all. Basically Gardening CAN be thought of as mostly an activity done by home hobbyists, but that is not necessarily always the case, what of the term "market gardening" and "market gardener"? Both occupations--Gardener and Horticulturist--deal w growing a variety of plant materials, and both will know/learn some scientific, factual information, but the Horticulturist usually is someone who formally (and perhaps informally) makes a study of the accumulated and on-going accumulation of scientific information. Like I said, the Gardener most often knows SOME scientific information, but they may also have many folk-ways or "tricks they learned from grandma or Uncle Lou" such as burying an egg by a plant or feeding milk to a pumpkin vine. While these may have some positive effect they are not based upon knowledge gained by research utilizing the scientific method.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice B Klar (talk • contribs) 14:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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