Talk:Gervais, Oregon

message: Please verify the stress is on the second syllable. The person who added the pronunciation forgot to say. kwami (talk) 09:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's of any relevance to anyone, no one in Oregon actually pronounces it correctly as per the proper French pronunciation. Most people in Oregon, including people that live in the town itself, pronounce it as follows: "JUR-vis." ("JUR" as in "jury," and "vis" as in "avis") Local pronunciation stresses the first syllable, and pronounces the "S" on the last syllable. The town may be located in French Prairie, but virtually no one in French Prairie these days actually speaks French. The languages spoken in the area are as follows, in order of prevalence: 1. English. 2. Spanish. 3. Russian. Andrew Parodi (talk) 07:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: I believe it is notable, newsworthy, and encyclopedic to have a picture of the media filming in Gervais. This is a story of great interest to the locals because it is the second time in a little over a year that a teenager has been killed on these tracks: 2014 death (Juan Carlos Robles-Melara, aged 13): , , and 2013 death (Diego Rodriguez, aged 13): . Andrew Parodi (talk) 08:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is indeed tragic but please read WP:NOT#NEWS and MOS:IMAGES. The images in a Wikipedia article should reflect the general topic of the article, which is the city of Gervais, Oregon. Wikipedia is not a news site and topics of local interest are better addressed by a local news source, local wiki, bulletin board, blog, or other resource, not by a global general-use encyclopedia. Also, if this was in fact something that should be included in the article--and again, though very tragic, it is not--the images don't do much to illustrate the subtopic (I won't suggest how the topic could be better approached photographically because I don't think any images should be included about this in this article). Finally, in an article with room for three images, one of the images should not be a grainy photo of a news reporter that has no relevance to the general topic, although it is highly tragic and has relevance to the locals. Valfontis (talk) 19:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I am of the opinion that an image of a news reporter in Gervais, Oregon, illustrates the general topic of Gervais, Oregon, because it's a regular feature of the town these days. Another recent example: http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/26/12640050/ For a town as small as Gervais (pop. 2,464), constant media attention is indeed notable. With regard to the tragic situation with the train, please see the school superintendent refer to the fact that the train tracks divide the town, with a train passing through town every hour; and it is "a tradition" in Gervais going back decades for locals (particularly the young) to walk the tracks from Gervais to Woodburn -- a tradition founded on the fact that there is no sidewalk connecting to the nearest town, which is only one mile away. Andrew Parodi (talk) 01:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  If there are articles or other reliable sources that specifically talk about increased media attention in Gervais, then maybe; but if not, the idea that this is a regular feature of the town is original research and should not be taken heavily into account. I don't see a huge problem with the photo in the article, but I also don't think it adds anything to the reader's understanding of the topic. -Pete (talk) 16:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the media attention to certain topics in Gervais is in any way unique. Any city or community is going to have certain topics that are in the news, that does not make them suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia (because, again WP:NOT#NEWS) unless like  says, there are multiple independent reliable sources outside of Gervais talking about the media attention paid to Gervais. In any case, the topics certainly don't need their own header. Finally, I think undue weight has been given to these news topics in what is quite a short article for a U.S. city article. There is likely a lot more general information that could be included in the article that is more encyclopedic than the teen pregnancy and train topics. Valfontis (talk) 17:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks,  and , for the alert about this discussion. In about 20 minutes I found more significant information about Gervais than the assertion that news crews are filming there routinely now. There are multiple interesting historical connections that could be made in the article, including Sam Brown House and French Prairie, as well as Russian and Canadian settlers. The Saint Paul Mission Historical Society has a searchable database (http://spmhs.pastperfect-online.com/collections.html) that yields 40 vintage photographs, most before 1923 — surely one of these would better represent Gervais, and would be more encyclopedic in nature than the presence of news media in Gervais recently. While the tragic deaths of 2 teens and the condom story will no doubt be the news media's focus, they should not be ours. I suggest reducing that section to a single sentence, and quashing the photo. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:17, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

text: People get killed on train tracks quite often, and when they do, it's always in the news. Things like this are not particularly notable for a city article. It's definitely undue weight to have both text on the news and an image about it, and it probably still is to include just text or just an image because Wikipedia isn't meant to be so focused on news. The most recent post here by  sums all of this up quite well. Jsayre64 (talk) 05:20, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent train casualties in Gervais

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