Talk:Tom Spurgeon

message: A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of publishedWhat constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad. secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,Sources that are pure derivatives of an original source can be used as references, but do not contribute toward establishing the notability of a subject.  "Intellectual independence" requires not only that the content of sources be non-identical, but also that the entirety of content in a published work not be derived from (or based in) another work (partial derivations are acceptable).  For example, a speech by a politician about a particular person contributes toward establishing the notability of that person, but multiple reproductions of the transcript of that speech by different news outlets do not.  A biography written about a person contributes toward establishing his or her notability, but a summary of that biography lacking an original intellectual contribution does not. and independent of the subject.Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article.  The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the subject notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.  Thus, entries in biographical dictionaries that accept self-nominations (such as the Marquis Who's Who) do not prove notability.
* If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be needed to prove notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.Non-triviality is a measure of the depth of content of a published work, and how far removed that content is from a simple directory entry or a mention in passing that does not discuss the subject in detail.  A credible 200-page independent biography of a person that covers that person's life in detail is non-trivial, whereas a birth certificate or a 1-line listing on an election ballot form is not.  Database sources such as Notable Names Database, Internet Movie Database and Internet Adult Film Database are not considered credible since they are, like wikis, mass-edited with little oversight. Additionally, these databases have low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion.
* Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject.
-WP:Criteria for inclusion of biographies
Simply stating he was the editor of X magazine and runs a popular web site doesn't cut it.  A case for notability needs to be established including multiple independent and reliable third-party sources.  --Kraftlos (talk) 04:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
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