Talk:Phone connector (audio)/Archive 1

message: Are the four- and five-conductor miniature jacks and plugs readily available? They don't appear in the catalogs I most often use. It's a good point that they exist, but I'm not sure the article as it stands is true. Andrewa 03:04, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't say for sure - I know they are featured on the iBook, PowerBook, iPod - maybe it's only an Apple thing... I also have an iTrip made by Griffin Technologies which connects to the iPod, this has a 5-conductor plug protruding from it. I wanted to note the existence of these but make minimal changes to the text, but perhaps the original sentence about availability needs to be moved or changed. GRAHAMUK 03:11, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had a go, see what you think. Andrewa 03:59, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool :) GRAHAMUK 04:05, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: I think thats a combi connector that can take either an electrical 3.5mm stereo jack or a 3.5mm optical (toslink but with a different connector iirc) plug. i often see a red light in the headphone jack on my laptop which looks very similar to that i have seen in toslink connectors. Plugwash 23:26, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 4/5 conductor jack/plug

message: Added "Some Strobe Lights, like the Chauvet ST-2000S use 1/4" Mono cables to sync flashing" under the "Uses" section.
If anyone has any more information on what triggers the strobe to pulse through this mono jack, it would be greatly appreciated. --Electrosoccertux 05:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uses of jacks 

message: The proposition to move the TRS page into this one has been on the talk page for the TRS connector article for some time. I just took the time to add the necessary template here. For concerns, please read discussion on the talk page before posting back here.
The most viable solution seems to be to move this article to one called "Phone connector (audio/visual)" and merge the TRS connector article into the page.
I feel that the rename will remove any ambguity as to what exactly this article refers to, since "Jack plug" seems to be a misnomer (I've honestly never heard of the term "Jack plug" before I read wikipedia and I've been working with audio for ten years now) Please specifically note the discussion at top of Talk:TRS connector on this issue. This will constitue massive rewrites of this article. I'm willing to attempt it, but it will be a time-consuming effort.
Thanks. ICberg7 01:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: and before i came to wikipedia i'd only heared theese reffered to as a "phone plug" once (and that was on a pack of connectors bought from tandy who had very close links iirc with the american chain radio shack). I get the impression this is a british/american terminology differance (you call them phone plugs we call them jack plugs). Plugwash 01:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 20:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move concerns 

message: User:ICberg7 has posted the following proposed move to WP:RM:
Jack plug → Phone connector (audio/visual) : The term "jack plug" is specific to the UK and is rarely used elsewhere. In practice, a "plug" goes into a "jack." The (audio/visual) was added to the name to differentiate this connector from a standard telephone connector (RJ-11). The term "connector" was added to follow suit with other audio equipment pages (XLR connector, RCA connector). Please see Talk:TRS connector for further information.
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Please add  * Support  or  * Oppose  followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "~~~~"
* Oppose for time being, although I agree the title is likely to be parochial. Unless I've misunderstood ICberg7's comments, I'm pretty sure a UK technician wouldn't refer to a socket as a jack, as in "a plug goes into a jack". However, I do know that what's described in the article isn't what's generally regarded as a "phone connector" in the UK; this term would be taken to mean those cuboid plastic blocks at the end of phone cabling used to plug into a wall or modem socket. I think UK technicians would describe the objects described in the article as "audio jacks". Apologies in advance if I've missed something obvious. Regards, David Kernow 02:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: See The history of the article This fits WP:MOS#National varieties of English "If there's no strong tie, try to find synonyms that can be used in any dialect. If no such words can be agreed upon, the dialect of the first significant contributor (not a stub) should be used."
"In practice, a "plug" goes into a "jack." The (audio/visual) was added to the name to differentiate this connector from a standard telephone connector (RJ-11). The term "connector" was added to follow suit with other audio equipment pages" It was called a Jack Plug long before the RJ-11 was invented. --Philip Baird Shearer 12:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Here's a list of the terms I can think of.  Please add to it and annotate — Omegatron 02:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terms 

message: I was about to edit the article on the assumption that "6.3" and "6.5" were just typos for "6.35" but then again I was not completely sure.  Could someone clarify this ambiguity? -thanks, Onceler 21:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the first plug was American, and 1/4 inch, which is exactly 6.35 mm.  See the section above this one.  — Omegatron 22:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  6.35mm, 6.3mm, and 6.5mm jack plugs 

message: It's not always the ground; sometimes the stereo uses differential signals (at least on my computer sound card).  So what you are hearing is equivalent to the left/right signal subtracted by the sleeve signal.  In other words, if you subtract the sleeve signal from the left or right signal, and then reference it to the ground, you will the the signal you're supposed to hear.  You can confirm this by connecting your headphone/speaker sleeve to ground and connecting the ring and tip to the corresponding contacts on your source jack contact.  You should hear noise.  Now, take the sleeve signal and the left signal and put it through a differential amplifier.  Connect the output of the differential amplifier to the headphone/speaker tip contact and ground the sleeve.  You should now get the correct signal.
: What sound card is that? — Omegatron 22:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sleeve is nominally the ground connection, but that doesn't nessacerally mean that it is tied to the PCs ground only that it is a common return and you can tie it to ground without breaking anything should you wish. Having an isolated ground for an audio output from an electrically noisy environment (the inside of a PC) is a pretty smart move. Plugwash 13:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sleeve is ground on stereo jack?

message: The Therm for this Jack in German is "Klinkenstecker" (Stecker = jack).
Congratulation for part usage where you are showing usage and dimensions for aviation (All aircraft wolrdwide are equipped that way in the pilot's cabin exept AIRBUS) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.1.18.249 (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Therm 

message: Perhaps not the best place to request some help, but i don't know of a better;-)
I want to buy some of these aircraft-jacks and some fitting plugs, does anyone know the manufactorer and/or can post a correct keyword for further search at google?
best wishes,-- .rhavin 89.62.103.56 12:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  aircraft-jacks 

message: Maybe the PC 99 standard should be mentioned somewhere? It specifies some color codes for the 3.5 mm jacks used in sound cards. --ZeroOne (talk | @) 19:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PC 99