Talk:History of the single-lens reflex camera

message: I've made various factual changes, courtesy of information in Nihon no rekishiteki kamera / The Japanese historical camera rev. ed. (Tokyo: Nihon Kamera Hakubutsukan, 2004). This book really ought to be more widely circulated; this would help dispel the (American?) myth that the Japanese camera industry was born around 1946. -- Hoary 15:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of us Americans know better! ;) --MurderWatcher1 14:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual changes

message: We read: The Asahi Pentax established the control layout used on the vast majority of SLRs in the next 30 years. . . . While little on the F was truly new, it was a well-made camera, and adhered closely to the Asahi Pentax's control scheme which was quickly becoming a de facto standard.
What's all this about? What part of the Asahi Pentax control layout was innovative or influential? (Not the thumb-wind, surely: this had been introduced to Japanese cameras by the Pigeon 35III in 1952.) Meanwhile, the Nikon F adhered pretty closely to the layout of the immediately preceding Nikon rangefinder cameras (cf the odd placing of the shutter release button). -- Hoary 15:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No response, so I made the changes that I thought were necessary. -- Hoary 05:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pentax control layout

message: I'm glad someone has access to better research material than I.  Much of this stuff is not very well documented (at least in English-language sources I've access to) and many sources in print are simply inaccurate. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 22:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good changes, Hoary ... 

message: I have added a lot of links to the 'See also' section of this 'History', however I just noticed that a number of these references are contained in :Category:SLR cameras link so, if anyone feels that this work is just a duplication of effort, etc. please feel free to delete some of these entries. I just had a case of 'editing-frenzy' and didn't notice this until too late.--MurderWatcher1 20:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Considerable Wikipedia Links to the 'See also' section 

message: Simonjwall has recently posted that the Gomz Sport did not come out until 1937 and therefore was most definitely NOT the first 35 mm SLR. Since this slim possibility was the Sport's only claim to fame (Simonjwall agrees that it was a technological dead end), I'm thinking that its Chronology entry should be deleted, if this stands. Any Sport defenders with contrary info?
Paul1513 (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Gomz Sport from Chronology? 

message: Someone needs to go back and fix a couple of things.  The Alpa 9d was released in Europe commercially in 1963, and made it to America in 1964.  Robust, it contained 3 cds cells and thru the lens metering.  And most specimans that were at all cared for still work today.  Thus, Pentax Spotmatic can not be the "second thru the lens metering camera" in 1964.  There is the ongoing question of wether Alpa or Topcon was first in 1963.  The Alpa is often overlooked due to it's generally low production numbers. 71.43.0.34 (talk) 01:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have two sources saying the Alpa 9d came out in 1964; one is specific that it was the third TTL light meter SLR, released after both the Topcon RE Super and the Asahi Pentax Spotmatic. In addition, the Alpa 9d's meter was uncoupled; a technological oddity less convenient than the RE Super and Spotmatic's coupled TTL meters that advanced upon the Zeiss Ikon Contarex's coupled non-TTL meter. Pignons' first coupled TTL meter did not arrive until the Alpa 10d in 1968. If this is wrong, please correct it and add an entry for the Alpa 6d. Just be sure to note its "out of continuity" uncoupled meter. Paul1513 (talk) 17:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alpa 9d and the first TTL metering camera

message: I have deleted the entries for the Nikon FM3A and F6 from the 21st century section of the SLR chronology. They did not introduce any new technologies to SLR cameras and do not belong. The FM3A was especially an old technology camera. They are not even important as the last film SLRs. (They have their own Wikipedia entries as interesting cameras.) Paul1513 (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nikon FM3A and F6 in SLR chronology

message: I've been looking at this article and the category Photography companies doesn't apply to a history of the SLR camera. Should I remove it? I'd like to see your opinions below so we can obtain a consensus. Thanks! Mononomic (talk) 01:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After 10 days with no arguments, I'm removing the category. Feel free to add it back, but at least justify why (here or on my talk page). Thank you! Mononomic (talk) 16:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Photography companies category? 

message: I strongly suggest that the "development of the 35mm SLR" and "rise of the japanese SLRs sections need to be merged."  There's no logical reason for the sections to be individual and it just scatters useful information and makes the article harder to read.
Also, there's really no reason for Edixa to be in this section.  They didn't begin making SLRs until the mid 50s, and they introduced no innovations to the type whatsoever. On the other hand there is no mention of the Praktina, Gamma Duflex, or Alpa in this section, which there should be.
Also the "general operation" section should be ahead of the development section so readers understand WHY these innovations were important.
Looking forward to hearing feedback on these suggestions.  If I get none I'll go ahead and clean things up.
Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by K-111 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development section 

message: Did the writer intentionally leave out Canon's F-1? It was the first camera that could have a motor added without a factory modification, the first professional camera to have an auto exposure capability, the first with a switchable viewfinder that could go from eye-level to waist-level and back, variations were the first high speed motor drive cameras (twice eclipsing nikon's efforts)...  Cadillacmike (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing the Canon F-1 

message: 1966
Konica Autorex (Japan; called AutoReflex in USA): first 35 mm SLR with successful shutter-priority automation (first with a focal-plane shutter).
It's not correct, because in 1965 "Arsenal" in Kiev launched "Kiev-10" with shutter priority and focal plane shutter. It had selenium (non-TTL) exposure metering, but exactly auto iris. 50 000 pieces produced during 9 years. Runner1616 (talk) 06:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First successful auto diaphragm SLR. 

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message: Ricoh 35 flex introduced in 1963 had full autoexposure, with both shutter and aperture value being set automatically, seeing how it's designed it wouldn't come to mind that it's fake full ae with shutterspeed being set manually by film sensitivity choice and aperture being chosen always in the same way in same lighting no matter what asa it's set to like Agfa Optima. It was of course leaf shutter and non interchangable lens but this doesn't change that it had full auto exposure. 46.204.50.37 (talk) 14:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-1 first full auto? 

message: This article seems to have had the vast majority of its writing occur prior to 2010, and a lot has changed since then. For instance, where it suggests that the future might have many more DSLRs with video recording capabilities seems silly in the modern perspective as this true and surpassed. There are also a couple sentences devoted to suggesting that live-view would spell the demise of DSLRs and the rise of modern Mirrorless cameras- perhaps revising and adding material to these areas would improve this article. 2600:1700:17F2:E30:E5F3:5E00:E11:6AE (talk) 22:58, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question on perhaps rewriting last couple of entries