Talk:Andreas, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

message: Is he really the senior male-line dynastic descendant of Victoria & Albert? Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester is the most senior male-line male descendant of Victoria & Albert as he is the surviving son of Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester and, as the Duke's two elder brothers, Edward and Albert (who reigned as George VI) had no sons, is since the death of his elder brother, William in 1972, the senior male-line male grandchild of George V, who was the surviving son of Edward VII, the first son of Victoria & Albert. Prince Andreas is a descendant of Leopold, Duke of Albany, who was Victoria and Albert's fourth son and Edward VII's youngest brother. Thus, he can't be considered as the senior male-line descendant of Victoria and Albert but, through dynastic changes in succession with renounciation of rights to the throne of Coburg by the future Edward VII and the Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught, he is the current titular Duke and thus is, with no doubt, the head of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Nonethelles, his British cousins from the Windsor family are agnatically senior to his family. We can say that Prince Andreas is the senior male-line descendant of Prince Albert in right of the former realm of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, as the elder lines of his descendants (thourgh Edward VII and Arthur, Duke of Connaught, now extinct in male-line) renounced their rights to it, but definitely he is not Prince Albert's senior male-line descendant in general. Kowalmistrz (talk) 20:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senior descendant of Victoria & Albert? 

message: This person is not a prince, he has no royal "style", he is not a "Highness", this article is inaccurate.Smeat75 (talk) 01:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Swedish government, for one, would not agree. Surtsicna (talk) 08:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If the Swedish government on occasion has been courteous in using legally defunct titles for some of the King's friends and relatives, that by no means makes the perfectly correct statement of Smeat75 any less correct. The article is a figmentation of fantasy in this regard and should be adjusted accordingly. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly.  Is this person in any way notable?  Has he done anything?  Germany has not had royals in nearly a century, it's silly to keep up the farce that they're coming back.  I would suggest the appropriate adjustment is deletion.  Wikipedia isn't a genealogy site. --XeroxKleenex (talk) 12:21, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Even if deletion is not possible (perhaps being member of a royal house is relevant in itself?) then the title is wrong. His legal name in Germany is "Andreas Prinz von Coburg" (plus any middle names). Surnames are not commonly translated, Merkel doesn't become Borderperson (the name is related to mark/march), so this surname should also not be translated. If so, then it should become Prince of Coburg. There is no Sachsen or Gotha in the name, and there is no state of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha any more, so where does that come from?--146.198.34.158 (talk) 16:46, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  He is head of a former royal house (whose cadet branch still rules the United Kingdom) and is, therefore, notable.. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 11:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Funnily enough, the British branch is senior to the one headed by Andreas. As for the title, we use whatever is common in reliable sources. If a person is known as Queen Latifah, we call her Queen Latifah. If the guy is known as Emperor Norton, we call him Emperor Norton. If he is known as Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, then guess what? Surtsicna (talk) 11:19, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article contains false statements about non-existent "styles "