Talk:FOREST

message: Looking at Google,  this group seems to get a fair bit of media attention. I think it's important that interested members of the public should be able to check its Astroturf status. That's clear from the article but could be bolstered a bit, looking at the Google results.JQ 09:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough... wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of having overly stringent notability standards. :) Let's collate and work in some solid secondary sources, in that case. MastCell Talk 18:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose deletion

message: Since "astroturf" is a derogatory term, it would be nice if we could quote a reliable source using specifically that word rather than applying it ourselves. Alternately, if reliable secondary sources use some other term, we could use whatever term they do use. --Delirium (talk) 06:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: astroturf

message: Harris' age (81) at time of death appeared here, juxtaposed with the fact of his long-term pipe smoking. This is a clear attempt at an argument by stealth against the fact of smoking's dangers. Editorially, it is irrelevant; as an argument on smoking it is fallacious. Either way, it has no business here. Cmsg 18:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Age of Lord Harris

message: A recent anonymous edit added this passage to the introduction:
FOREST fails to recognise the rights of non-smokers for a tobacco-smoke free environment and they believe that their right to smoke, as a minority in a democratic society, outweighs the rights of non-smokers who are now in the majority. FOREST have difficulty in accepting that the majority of smokers in the United Kingdom wish that they had never started smoking in the first place or wish that they could quit smoking now. Thankfully, its [FOREST] members are proving ineffective in influencing tobacco legislation.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that sees an inappropriate tone in there. The penultimate sentence was sourced to an NHS statistics page, but apart from that I still think the paragraph needs to be entirely rewritten to state the facts without leading language if it is to be included in the article. --128.243.253.111 (talk) 20:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased tone 

message: Is there a relation between the name of FOREST and their "opponents", ASH? I'm assuming one of them is a pun of some kind, but I can't find a reference. — sjorford++ 09:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: What looked like a wikilink to an Institute of Ideas page has been removed, and Britmax has helpfully inserted a reference to that external organisation's website.  Does anyone know what happened to the WP article on the Institute, if there was one? Hypocaustic (talk) 03:03, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:REDLINK. The existence of a random wikilink does not guarantee the existence of the corresponding article. 86.175.243.7 (talk) 03:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

text: BTW, it's not altogether clear that the link to the website is helpful. Clare Fox is de facto notable, given that she has a wiki page, that doesn't mean it's useful to mention her website/pet-project/whatever-it-actually-is, unless that project is at least as notable, and probably more notable, than she is.86.175.243.7 (talk) 03:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Institute of Ideas 

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