Talk:Carlos Zambrano

message: It's not a bad article but it seems to be written from one person's own point of view. A more enecyclopedic, third person style would hugely improve the article. Mglovesfun 23:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article needs an overhaul, badly.  References to the Cubs and to Zambrano throughout the article are heavily biased in favor of him.  There is little-to-no mention of his temper (including a fight with former teammate Michael Barrett while he was still the club), and weasel words like "unfortunately" are used before any situation in which Zambrano or the Cubs faired poorly.  It needs a heavy POV change.  Good rule of thumb: if you or I can read something written in this article and say "I disagree with that", while not being wrong in saying so, it does not belong.President David Palmer 19:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The fights with Barrett could be expanded with info from the Michael Barrett article, which was at one time a GA candidate. Chubbles 19:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: The main page photo is terrible. Carlos is barely even visible.--68.78.47.144 19:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Just to explain my edits and the revert: I think it's important to mention his contract status in the lead; the contract was mentioned twice in the 2007 season section, which seemed to be unnecessary duplication; and when my edits were reverted, outdated information was restored ("rumors are he will have an $80 million contract"). Chubbles 18:51, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's more important to mention it in both places. However, your revert is seemingly chronologically out of place. The Cubs the fact that the Cubs were able to sign at least four agents to multi-year/million dollars, drew questions whether (or really when) the Cubs would resign Please cite potentially libelous claims - hence a previous editor mentioned something about the rumors. Also, most of the article is still under work, which explains why there are so many random facts lying around. :p --ShadowJester07 ► Talk  19:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's chronologically out of place, but I think it's more important to keep the subject matter together here than to maintain strict chronological order. I think it's probably best to have a paragraph about his contract and salary set apart from the information about his season performance. Chubbles 19:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: That seems like a good idea, I was about to suggest either making a new paragraph or section, since Zambrano's new deal contains a lot of key points.. I think we can find information about Zambrano's salary from his Baseball Reference Profile. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk  19:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: Should Z's career batting stats also be included in his infobox? As a prolific hitting pitcher it may be worth a mention. I open the floor...
195.157.226.49 (talk) 16:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra Stats 

message: If anyone has any free time and enjoys a challenge, convert the text table in Minor League Stats to a Wiki-Table as shown in Major League stats. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 18:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, thank God for MS Excel :p. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   16:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor League Stats 

message: One of you cubs fan might wanna clean this up a bit, it mentions that Zambrano's no hitter was on neutral ground twice and really the overall article sounds like a 5th grade school paper.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.22.33 (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I replaced the Template:Very long with Template:POV. Whilst it is not necessarily a bad thing that an article may be in depth, I believe the spirit of the previous tag was that the article was written with a non-encyclopedic WP:Tone and contained lots of WP:Trivial mentions. With this in mind, I have tagged some of the numerous peacock terms and weasel words, including "turned in another excellent performance," "poor opening game," "dueled," "outdueled," "blew a big early lead," "did not get much support," "had a meltodown," etc. Some statements need to be quantified, whilst others would need to be removed or vastly re-worded to be consistent with WP:NPOV. Zepppep (talk) 10:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV issues 

message: As of today, the first sentence of the second paragraph describes Zambrano as a "controversial pitcher".  That could mean any of a number of things.  Athletes are sometimes described as "controversial" if they have been accused of misdeeds related or unrelated to their sport, and the severity of these has an enormous range.  Or sometimes it's not about any objectively bad thing at all; they may just have unusual personal habits, or a tense relationship with the media.
Whatever it is, a cursory scan of the article doesn't explain it.  It should either be explained (with good sourcing at the WP:BLP standard), or removed.  --Trovatore (talk) 06:33, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial? 

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