Talk:Boston University

message: Some of the colleges and schools (listed in the "Colleges and Schools" category) should really have their own pages. Particularly CGS and MET (2 programs within MET have their own pages, but MET itself does not). These are important parts of BU and have notable alumni. Hbomberman (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pages for schools/colleges within BU 

message: A recent edit removed this paragraph:
:Additionally, in the "unofficial" version of the song, often sung by students, the words "Fight! Fight! Fight!" are replaced with "BC sucks!", a nod to the ice hockey rivalry between the two schools.
Do we want to  put it back in? It is an interesting tidbit, if true. BU is one of my almae matres but I have never heard that version of the song. OTH I have also never attended a BU sporting event (nor any other sporting event if I  could help it). Dave  (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 14:42, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does BC suck or not? 

message: I just got back from visiting the campus and the pics on here do not do the campus any justice. The Eli Weisel Center for Judaic Studies and the Center for International Relations were gorgeous buildings. As was the BU Castle and the Pub underneath it. 
Please add some more flattering pics to this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.164.66.120 (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs new pics 

message: Parts of this article read as if taken fr/ BU advertising brochures. Plans for future development were pared down, and peacock language has been replaced.Tapered (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: PR

message: Please add a local street map highlighting the campus area and buildings.-71.174.188.32 (talk) 00:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  local street map 

message: Is there some special reason that Oscar winner Olympia Dukakis was omitted from the Arts notable Alumni section?  There is somebody else who is there that I would be happy to see removed.  That name will not be given.  Olympia's Oscar was for Best Supporting Actress in Moonstruck.  The source for me is IMDB but you probably want to cite the Oscar association pages.  She is still active at about age 87 surviving her only spouse who died in early 2018.  That alone is a record for people in Hollywood.  hhhobbit (talk) 08:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Olympia Dukakis

message: 1968 Olympic 400m hurdles gold medalist David Hemery
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/friends-and-memories-bring-5000-back-to-campus/ was a student at BU in the 1960s, and a coach in the 1970s and 1980s.
John Thomas
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/track-and-field-icon-john-thomas-dies-at-71/ attended BU in the early 1960s and he won a silver medal in the Olympic High Jump.  He was an assistant track coach at BU during the 1970s.
I don't have references for these athletics or I would have put them in the prominent alumni myself.
Endo999 (talk) 02:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prominent Sporting Alumni of BU 

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message: BU has a tradition of using three-letter abbreviations (e.g. FAS, CFA, SAR, MET) for its various schools, and changing them from time to time. To make it easier to decode them, I propose adding two new columns to the table which currently lists only the dates of establishment. One column should show the current official trigram, while the other column should list any previous letter codes used, and possibly what names they once stood for. Reify-tech (talk) 22:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  BU Trigrams Suggestion 

message: A campus map is needed, showing where each college or academic program is located.
A URL referencing an official BU map would be OK. Tziril (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need a campus map 

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message: Can the unregistered editor who insists on removing the (well-sourced) historical Methodist affiliation from the infobox please explain their edits? Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 04:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undiscussed removal of historical Methodist affiliation from infobox 

message: Should the CDS be added to the section about the schools and colleges? The official classification of it is an academic unit and not actually a school/college Ksirz (talk) 02:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The CDS is a building that houses the Department of Mathematics & Statistics, Department of Computer Science, the Rafik B. Hariri Institute for Computing and Computational Science & Engineering, and the Faculty of Computing & Data Sciences. What you mean to refer to is the Faculty of Computing & Data Sciences. I don't think it should be added as a school/college as it only offers a Data Science major. Swordfish31 (talk) 05:49, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Center of Computing and Data Science Classification 

message: The Kilachand Honors College is not a degree-granting college nor is it a major programhttps://www.bu.edu/khc/about/faqs/. Graduates of the Kilachand Honors College receive their degrees from one of the established colleges. Rather, it is a special program wherein students get specialized supervising, a separate residence hall, and complete a keystone project.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: But it's still a college - it's right there in the name. ElKevbo (talk) 11:38, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well. Under BU's academics section for "Schools & Colleges," that college is listed. Pacamah (talk) 13:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arvind and Chandan Nandlal Kilachand Honors College should be removed from list of schools/colleges 

message: The historic affiliation with the United Methodist Church is already explained in the body paragraphs of the article. It is unnecessary to repeat this in the beginning. Rather, the beginning should provide details about the founding of the university, as can be seen with the introductions of peer institutions on Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 (talk • contribs) 05:59, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree; it's only a few words and it seems especially important to tell readers that although the institution has historic ties to a particular religious denomination it is non-secular. ElKevbo (talk) 11:46, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally disagree. Boston University is a secular institution. There is only one school in Boston University, the School of Theology, that "retains its historic affiliation with the United Methodist Church", which can be read further in the article. It is not important at all to tell the readers what church that 1 out of the 17 schools/colleges of Boston University is historically affiliated with in the beginning of the article. Even then, it is a weak affiliation - as can be see from the STH website, both non-Methodist Christians and non-Christians, including Muslims and the Irreligious are able to attend the School of Theology. See Princeton University, which was founded by New Light Presbytarians to train ministers dedicated to their views, and historically affiliated with the Presbyterian Church, with the Princeton Theological Seminary being the first school of Princeton University, still affiliated with the Presbyterian Church. This affiliation with the Presbyterian Church is not mentioned in the beginning sentences of the article as this is not what readers want to know from the first glance of reading about the University, rather, the simple background of the University is what the readers want to know in the beginning, its fine if you mention the church affiliation later, which it already is. Swordfish31 (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I too agree with User:ElKevbo. The affiliation is not with the seminary only, but with the entire university, as the references demonstrate. It is important to leave the references in the article per WP:RS. IAMSCU lists Boston University as a member institution, as does the website of the United Methodist Church. If User:User:Swordfish31 still disagrees, he/she should respect the WP:STATUSQUO until consensus is reached. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 23:50, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The University is either secular, or it is a Methodist university. Boston University is listed as a member institute because of its School of Theology. The University as a whole is secular. Swordfish31 (talk) 23:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You are edit warring against consensus and will soon be in violation of WP:3RR if you continue reverting. As of now, you do not have the agreement of other editors to change long-standing information on this article. AnupamTalk 23:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

text: It would be helpful if you provided reliable sources supporting your assertions. ElKevbo (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments User:ElKevbo. I should add, with respect to User:Swordfish31's  claim, it is impossible for a university to be "secular" and host a religious seminary and chapel at the same time. The sources state that it is nonsectarian and that there is an affiliation with the United Methodist Church—this is an accurate descriptor of the university, which has been present in this article throughout its history. AnupamTalk 03:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Anupam, respectfully, nonsectarian and secular are interchangeable. Swordfish31 (talk) 22:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

text: That is not "impossible" by any means. See Northwestern University, they host the Garrett–Evangelical Theological Seminary, a Methodist seminary. Nobody claims that Northwestern is not a secular school. BU is definitely secular, based on your profile, you seem to have somewhat of an affiliation with the religion being discussed - it is important to remain impartial. Swordfish31 (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historic affiliation with United Methodist Church shouldn't be mentioned in beginning sentences 

message: Given that BU is nonsectarian, this mention of a non-existent religious affiliation in the info box is inappropriate. See Northwestern University, where the historic affiliation to the United Methodist Church was removed from the infobox.Swordfish31 (talk) 02:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The religious affiliation will remain in the infobox. Boston University has a United Methodist-related university as mentioned in the sources in the above section, such as the IAMSCU website. Please familiarize yourself with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Thanks, AnupamTalk 03:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You provided a source from 2014, please provide an updated source. And what do you mean by Boston University has a United Methodist-related university? Boston University itself is a university. It's been established that BU is a nonsectarian institution, so why is there a section for "religious affiliation"? Thanks, Swordfish31 (talk) 03:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The current IAMSCU website still includes BU as a "World Methodist School". ElKevbo (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Religious affiliation" should be removed from infobox and rather mentioned in body paragraph 

message: Other pages seem to have essentially a giant slew of pictures under the notable alumni section. Would this be something favorable here? I am honestly a bit more in the camp of including this, as it seems to be a bit more impactful to have pictures rather than just links. Pacamah (talk) 06:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of "Notable Alumni" section? 

message: The current infobox has BU Red and White, but the source it links to says it is BU Red and black for its official colors? I feel like red and white are obviously the most prominent colors, but the official site says red and black, so I'm not sure what to do. I guess we can either change it to red and black, or add black to the mix. Pacamah (talk) 00:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Colors