Talk:C. Rajagopalachari

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* http://books.google.co.in/books?id=5xj0g8euumQC&pg=PA81&dq=swatantra+party+1971&hl=en&ei=zGAQTLydE4LBrAex0PH7BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=swatantra%20party%201971&f=false
* http://books.google.co.in/books?id=rz2646IZCqcC&pg=RA1-PA104&dq=swatantra+party+1971&hl=en&ei=k2EQTIjIGce0rAfe4vTGBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=swatantra%20party%201971&f=false
* http://books.google.co.in/books?id=9dDH9q7nVQ8C&pg=PA132&dq=swatantra+party+1971&hl=en&ei=k2EQTIjIGce0rAfe4vTGBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=swatantra%20party%201971&f=false
-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 03:52, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  some sources for later life 

message: Would it be possible to move this article to C. Rajagopalachari or Chakravarti Rajagopalachari? A redirect will remain at Rajaji. My concern is with using an honorific or nickname to refer to politicians – must we use "Netaji" instead of "Subhas Chandra Bose", "Mahatma" instead of "Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi", and "Panditji" instead of "Jawaharlal Nehru"? I'll double-check, but I think this is contrary to the Wikipedia naming policy. QuartierLatin1968 15:01, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move from [[Rajaji]] to [[C. Rajagopalachari]]?

message: This has been updated .I fully agree with you one has to give true with his positive and negative points his 4 years as CM of Madras State was amongst the worst when he introduced Hindi in 1937 and later Kula Kalvi Thittam (Hereditary Education Policy which was opposed and later removed by kamaraj and became a non elected member and chief minister through a constitutional impropriety which was not liked by Nehru.good job soman keep it up.
Please avoid personal attacks
To the Gentleman or Lady 80.195.10.170. In the Pre computer  era which is just about 20 years in India  and in most countries in the world.All Governments orders/documents are not available on the internet dating back before that era have not been updated online worldwide.This perhaps includes Kula Kalvi Thittam  or the legislation of the Madras Government in 1950's .This includes almost all legislation.Further no encyclopedia posts articles only with Government policy documents which if made mandotary for all pages it will decades to collect  and cost  millions of dollars to get all documents from over 200 countries while it is possible to get government links for recent events in the internet era it may not possible for all events in the pre Computer  era.As per Wikipedia policy citations are enough not Governement documents as they are difficult to get particularly old ones.Please do not remove contents as historical facts cannot be hidden by removing them.You c.an make edits which are positive with citations not negative ie removing content..Tametiger talk
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Can any one add more on Rajaji stint as Chief Minister of Madras state?. His relationship with Kamaraj, EVR, AnnaDurai?. His infamous plan to have school and work?
:Its interesting that whilst the editors of this article goes to length of describing CRs intellect and personal brilliance, it does hardly mention a word on the disputes inside the Congress, how CR was opposed by most Tamil congress leaders, etc. --Soman 07:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone have more information? 

message: I've reverted the last edits since;
* The article already has a zealous touch to it. It does not pay attention to the role played by CR in Indian politics, but rather wishes to focus on his personal greatness.
* Several statements needs to be backed up (like 'He was respected not only by Indians but by every one'). Claiming that x individuals 'revered him greatly' is at this point often unfounded. If anyone can find proof of in autobiographies that Kennedy or Khrustchev admired CR, then that should be added first as a reference.
* Why leave out the INDC? Is it not relevant to mention that CR leave a different party before it was merged into the Swatantra Party.
* The speculation fo CR being proposed as president needs backing up.
* As to the Swatantra Party, wasn't that rather a unification of anti-Congress elements (like the GP in Odisha, etc.)?
--Soman 11:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: wasnt he an untouchable who started the caste politics in india. (based on anti brahaminical movements).nids 07:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Rajaji is no way related to Anti-Brahmin movements. One may probably call him a target, perhaps. He did do quite a bit for Dalit upliftment, like temple-entry, etc., but he is not related to the Anti-Brahmin movement-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 16:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: wasnt he the one to start caste-politics

message: The last 2 references are to the life of E.V.Ramaswamy naicker. Who put it here? They should be removed. They should be put in the page for EVR.
:: Of course, they are from Dravidar Kazhagam sites. But they are definitely related to Rajaji as they are about protests against imposition of Hindi and the Kula Kalvi Thittam-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 16:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes section 

message: I believe Rajaji's daughter Lakshmi Rajagopalachari married Devdas Gandhi, the Mahatma's son.  Can anyone confirm this? -Etoile (talk) 03:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, correct. It shall be included in a new section"Family"-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 16:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Familial Relations 

message: Hi, I have posted comments to the Peer Review of this article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review#C._Rajagopalachari
To help with copyediting to improve this section, the sentences below would benefit from some prose explaining what they are about - without some context it's hard for someone not already familiar with Indian history to understand.
(i) Need citation (and explanation of significance of each person, I've tried to do the latter but someone more knowledgable can do a better job)
Rajaji was a close friend of V. O. Chidambaram Pillai. He was also highly admired by Annie Besant and C. Vijayaraghavachariar.
(ii) Need an explanation of what this is about.
When the Indian National Congress split in 1923, Rajaji was a member of the Civil Disobedience Enquiry Committee. He supported the old guard and opposed the council entry programme of the Swarajists.
(iii) Need an explanation of what this is about.
It was during this time, that E. V. Ramasamy functioned as a Congress member under Rajaji's leadership.
Jomeara421 (talk) 02:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian independence movement 

message: Comments/queries from Peer Review copyediting of this section:
1. In the sentence that begins "Rajaji was arrested…" 
"Defence of India Rules"  Is there a link or explanation for what this means? There is an article on Defence of India Act 1915 but this was around World War one apparently.
2. This sentence needs clarification. What is it about?
"However, at a later stage, Rajaji differed in opinion over opposition to British war effort."
3.  What are the 'certain' differences? Needs clarification.
"He resigned from the party and the assembly following differences over certain resolutions passed by …"
4. "Constitutional tangle" in the following sentence is obscure, and needs clarification.
"In 1944, he proposed a solution to the Indian Constitutional tangle…"
Thanks. John Jomeara421 (talk) 01:19, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second World War - section copyediting queries 

message: Queries arising from Peer Review copyediting:
1. This sentence is nearly incomprehensible. I have tried to reorganize it, but the facts are obscure, and assistance from someone who knows more about the events is needed to make sure that the edited version is factually correct.
:But Governor Sri Prakasa nominated Rajaji to the Legislative Council without the advice of the council of ministers and the selection of a nominated member as Chief Minister and further majority was obtained by luring opposition Members of the Legislative Assemblyhttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1539375.cms to join the party and Nehru was furious and wrote to Rajaji that" the one thing we must avoid giving is the impression that we stick to office and we want to keep others out at all costs"
2. A citation is needed to support this sentence.
"Rajaji refused to contest a by-election and remained a non elected member."
3. A citation is needed to support this sentence.
P.C. Alexander, a former Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra governor, has described these events as a serious constitutional impropriety.
4. The topic discussed in this sentence needs clarification.
"Rajaji removed controls on foodgrains, and…"
Thanks. John. Jomeara421 (talk) 03:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Madras State section - copyediting questions 

message: Copyediting from Peer Review
NB:Trimmed Section title
1. Needs a supporting citation.
The quote that begins "Encouraging competition…."
2. Needs a citation.
"Beginning in the early 1960s ….."
Jomeara421 (talk) 00:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swatantra Party section 

message: Copyediting from Peer Review.
Not a single citation in this section.
Jomeara421 (talk) 01:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1967 elections 

message: Copyediting from Peer Review
1. The Wikipedia entry for Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan says this organization was founded in 1938 by someone else – verification needed.
"In 1958, he established the Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan."
Jomeara421 (talk) 02:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions to literature and music 

message: Copyediting from the Peer Review process:
NB: Both the "Legacy" and "Criticism" section could be greatly improved with some stronger analysis.
1. This statement (and others in this section) needs support:
"Despite the fact that Rajaji was considered to be one of the most able statesmen in the national arena, his provincial and then, state administrations are believed to have fared badly."
2. This concept needs clarification and citation support:
"C. R. Formula"
3. Almost every sentence in this section needs citations to support the claims that are being made.
4. The concept of "Dravidian movement" is introduced here, without being discussed previously in the article – surely it should be discussed somewhere else, not in a concluding section.
Overall this section needs attention from an unbiased editor knowledgeable about the subject.
Jomeara421 (talk) 02:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism Section 

message: The photo of him is very poor. Perhaps a better photo can be obtained? --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: [[:Image:CR Rajaji.jpg|This image that w Saivites. Besides, Rajaji never sports any religious symbols or caste marks in any of his photographs. Also, Rajaji used coloured glasses for his spectacles unlike the person in the photograph who appears to use plain ones. The owners of iloveindia.com might have confused some else's photo for Rajaji. -The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 02:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Rajaji??? 

message: cheranmadevi school incidence and ashram in Salem may be included. --CarTick 18:52, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ashram in Salem 

message: The section "Indian Independence Movement" makes reference to a debate about "council entry". This term means nothing to a lay reader from outside India and requires explanation in the article. Can anyone help? hamiltonstone (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have rewritten it to explain what "council entry" meant. I am not sure if it makes sense to someone not familiar with the intra-party Congress politics. Can you check and see if this is ok. If it is still not clear, i will add a more descriptive footnote.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a slightly cumbersome wording, but it is precise, and now i clearly understand what it was about. That is better. Much appreciated. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Council entry?? 

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message: Governor-general is NOT head of state. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 19:38, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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message: The current picture for C. Rajagopalachari seems grainy and does not even show his face in a front view. All we get is a side view, which doesn't help the professionalism of this entry. I advocate that there should be a better picture instead of the current one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SourinSP (talk • contribs) 18:22, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
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