Talk:Glenn Miller

message: I was confused why the lead section av the article describes Miller as MIA and not dead although he is described as dead in the info box. Although neither the plane or the body have been found the same goes for Leslie Howard who died/disappeared in a similar way but he is described as dead.DrKilleMoff (talk) 23:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. SilkTork (talk) 11:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

text: k 85.207.88.34 (talk) 12:51, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Glenn Miller, Norman Baessell and John Morgan died when their planes wings got iced over, on December 15, 1944, the day before the Battle of the Bulge started Dec 16, 1944. Kinfo Pedia (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why MIA and not dead? 

message: I remember that I have seen a European documentary on TV about Glenn Miller some years ago. In that documentary, it was pointed out that his plane was destroyed by bombs dumped from Allied bomber planes returning from an aborted raid over Germany. They couldn't bomb their targets because of bad weather and they had the order to release them somewhere over the English Channel. At that time, Glenn Miller was on his way to Paris. His airplane flew at a lower height than the Allied bomber planes. Because of the foggy weather, they were not able to see Glenn Miller's plane. What happened was a terrible accident...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.57.72.40 (talk) 21:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Subsequent inquiries, including for the 2014 PBS documentary cited in the notes, have found that the timing is wrong and Miller's Norseman would not have been in the 'jettison' area of the Channel when the Lancasters of 3 Group, returning from a scrubbed raid to Siegen because the weather was too bad for their fighter escorts to rendezvous, ditched their bombs. It had been assumed that the Norseman flew in a direct line from Bedford, passing over London, but that is unlikely as the London defence area was normally to be avoided. The usual waypoint, to the west of London, was Reading. Latterly the diary of a 17-year-old planespotter in Reading has come to light, recording that he spotted a Norseman over Reading, headed east-south-east (the direction you would set for Paris from that waypoint) on the afternoon of 15 December. If that was Miller's aircraft (and seemingly there was only one other Norseman in the air over southern England that afternoon), then, given the departure time, the known cruise speed and the detour around London, it would have been over the Channel too late to be hit by 3 Group's bombs. If, as the PBS documentary claimed, the Norseman's pilot was not instrument-rated, then in that bad weather anything could have happened. Carburettor icing in cloud has been suggested, but a pilot unqualified on instruments could easily lose orientation when flying blind and just fly into the sea. https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/mystery-glenn-millers-death-solved-951608 Khamba Tendal (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Glenn Miller, Norman Baessell and John Morgan died when their planes wings got iced over, on December 15, 1944, the day before the Battle of the Bulge started Dec 16, 1944. Kinfo Pedia (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  European documentary on TV - Glenn Millers death 

message: Surprised to see no mention here.  His orchestra was a Muller tribute band before tribute bands were even a thing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2788:1008:6D6:E2CB:4EFF:FE88:1A2D (talk) 08:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syd Lawrence 

message: "On December 15, Morgan flew at under 2,000 feet (610 m) in cold and wet conditions. At 155 miles per hour (249 km/h) airspeed, an engine failure would result in a nose-down dive. The pilot would have about eight seconds to recover the airplane."
This is absolute drivel written by someone with zero knowledge of aviation. --151.47.188.245 (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Right you are. I removed the nonsense. Binksternet (talk) 16:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Glenn Miller, Norman Baessell and John Morgan died when their planes wings got iced over, on December 15, 1944, the day before the Battle of the Bulge started Dec 16, 1944. Kinfo Pedia (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nose-down dive" 

message: The tone of this description does not seem to me to be quite right for an encyclopaedia, particularly the words I have emboldened. 
*"following a seven-year investigation authorized and encouraged by the Glenn Miller estate"
*"the comprehensive book": is comprehensive POV?
*"With unprecedented access to previously unavailable documents from numerous government agencies"
*"exposed key facts"
*"established beyond doubt": is this POV?
*"claim was physically impossible" and "could not have physically arrived": does physically add anything except too much emphasis?
FrankSier (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is what I've learned.  Glenn Miller, Norman Baessell and John Morgan died when their planes wings got iced over, on December 15, 1944, the day before the Battle of the Bulge started Dec 16, 1944. Kinfo Pedia (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The description of "Glenn Miller Declassified " book 

message: This section reads very strangely. It makes reference to various speculations, including conspiracy theories, without giving any detail, and then concludes by suggesting that all controversies have been answered by the Shenkle biography. An encyclopaedia entry should surely acknowledge that there has been controversy even if it is felt that it has now been explained.Ntmr (talk) 12:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: We should add this sentence to clarify things. Glenn Miller, Norman Baessell and John Morgan died when their planes wings got iced over, on December 15, 1944, the day before the Battle of the Bulge started Dec 16, 1944. Kinfo Pedia (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappearance 

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message: Should we mention that the possible sighting in 1987?
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/glenn-miller-mysterious-plane-disappearance-might-soon-be-solved/ 2600:100C:A205:743B:461:D767:7031:DAE2 (talk) 06:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible plane sighting 

message: UCO source providing evidence for Glenn Miller having 69 top ten hits does not show 69 anywhere, unclear how this was derived and whether number is legitimate 98.97.10.228 (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Top 10” hits