Talk:Pyotr Stolypin

message: I have a strong suspicion that the assassination section has copied text almost word for word from Orlando Figes' book on the Russian revolution "A People's Tragedy". I've read this book and recognise the phrasing. I no longer have a copy of it to check what parts are breaching wikipedia standards, but if anyone has a copy then could they change it? It would be a shame to have to rewrite the entire section. Blankfrackis (talk) 17:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assassination Section Plagiarism

message: In 1911 he ordered Rasputin out of St. Petersburg, and was obeyed.  this was followed by an investigation by Lukyanov, minister of religion.  The empress wasn't very fond of him after this point.  And continued to support Rasputin.
Rasputin also prophesied his death the day previously.
The fall of the Russian Monarchy Pares 1939
Sethwoodworth 01:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rasputin and St. Petersburg 

message: Was Stolypin really interior minister "under Ivan Goremykin" (section: Governor and Interior Minister) and in office 1904-1905 (according to the succession box)? If the latter is correct, shouldn't be "under Sergei Witte" who was Chairman of the Committee of Ministers 1903-1905. But according to List of Ministers of Interior of Imperial Russia Stolypin was Ministers of Interior 1906-1911 and preceeded by Pyotr Nikolayevich Durnovo. About Durnovo you can read that he was Minister of interior 1905-1906 and succeeded by Stolypin. My conclusion is that Stolypin was both Prime minister and Minister of Interior 1906-1911, thus not "under Ivan Goremykin". Correct?--79.138.209.66 (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He served under Gorymkin from April to July 1906. john k (talk) 14:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this really correct? 

message: Some of this page reads like a cheerleader. "Maliciously misrepresented"? "grossly misleading"? I think maybe it should be cleaned up by someone with more of an interest in conveying the facts about Stolypin, rather than trying to rehabilitate his reputation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.130.39.203 (talk) 02:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: The information box conflicts with what is said in the second-to-last section which claims he died on Sep. 14. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, Stolypin died on the 18th.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vopz (talk • contribs) 01:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of Death

message: I'm no expert on this period, but I found suspect the suggestion that Stolypin used castration to keep the peasantry in line.  There is no mention of this in the only source provided for this part of the text.  Anyone help here?
Separately, the allegations  that his daughters pushed their brother off a bridge also raised questions?  Nandt1 (talk) 00:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Vandalism?

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message: Stolypin seems to have been born in Dresden on 14 April 1862, and was later baptized on 24 May in the Russian Orthodox Church in the same city.
:– The puzzling formulation "seems to have been" only raises questions, and the absence of any explanation as to why he was born in Germany raises more questions.
:I don't really read Russian, but I know enough to see that the Russian Wikipedia article states flatly that he was born in Дрезден, Саксония (Dresden, Saxony). Further, the German Wiki article notes, Sein Vater, General Arkadi Dmitrijewitsch Stolypin (1821–1899), war zeitweise als russischer Gesandter in Deutschland tätig; so wurde Stolypin in Dresden geboren ("His father, General Arkady Dimitrievich Stolypin (1821-1899), was at the time a Russian envoy [representative] in Germany; thus, Stolypin was born in Dresden.")
:I've edited the sentence above to incorporate this information. Sca (talk) 21:35, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace

message: Stolypin was shot twice, once in the arm and once in the chest by Dmitry Bogrov, a leftist revolutionary, trying to rehabilitate himself.
:– Really? In Russia one rehabilitates oneself by killing high-ranking government officials? Clause deleted. Sca (talk) 21:45, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Huh?

message: Almost all of the third paragraph in the Legacy section (beginning "There remains doubt, however") is lifted from Michael Lynch's "Reaction and Revolution: Russia 1894-1924" (the section of the book is "Difficulties confronting Stolypin", which in my 4th edition book is pages 47-49). Minor phrasing and order have been changed, but is verbatim the same except for that. (Sentences the same or only one word from the text include: "The deep conservatism from the mass of peasants made them slow to respond" and "Most peasants were unwilling to leave the security of the commune for the uncertainty of individual farming"). I do not know exactly what rewrites would have to be done, hopefully this catches the eye of someone more versed in these things.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.237.247.169 (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy Section Plagiarism