Talk:Andrei Tarkovsky

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message: Many Russian sources (google Андрей Тарковский родился) and German version point to December 29. --EugeneZelenko 03:43, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard of the uncertanity around the date of Tarkovsky's death before. Someone recently edited it from December 28 to December 29. Searching for "tarkovsky december 28" and "tarkovsky december 29" in Google (without the quotation marks) nearly gives an equal number of results. Any ideas? If we do not know for sure, the article should at least say so. --JonasRH 15:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems to be uncertain, one reliable book on Tarkovsky says that he died in the night of the 28th to the 29th. On the other side, on the grave stone (see the picture in the article) it is clearly the 29th. So I take this as the official death date. Dassiebtekreuz (talk) 01:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of death

message: I've put together a Tarkovsky template at User:Staecker/Template:Tarkovsky. It looks like:
Any comments before I stick in on the pages? Feel free to change it around if you have ideas. Staecker 18:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections, so I'm putting it in. Staecker 18:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tarkovsky template

message: Does anyone know why Concentrate is no longer listed at imdb? Estrose 23:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was curious about this, so I sent them a message asking about it. But it might be related to this: http://ucalgary.ca/~tstronds/nostalghia.com/TheTopics/Marina_and_Alexandr.html (the script was never shot, a documentary was made but A.T/M.T didn't like how it turned out/was manipulated, so they didn't want to be credited?) 0cm 22:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Concentrate (screenplay) was never-filmed and exists only as a screenplay, see the interview in the link above. Fragments of Concentrate were filmed many years later for a documentary. Dassiebtekreuz (talk) 14:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Concentrate

message: The article says that Tarkovsky chose not to return to Russia in the final stage of his life. I don't think this is true. He was told by the Soviet authorities that he could not return while he was making Nostalgia. This forced rather than voluntary exile caused him immense pain as he was unable to see his family who were unable to leave the USSR. He also dearly loved Russia - as the movie Nostalgia shows - and talked himself about how the theme of that film - the yearning in the Russian heart for the homeland - suddenly became the central experience of his life while he was making it. The grief Tarkovsky felt about being cut off from home and family was immense. He didn't (and wouldn't have) voluntarily chosen never to see his loved ones again. ThePeg 2006
:As I've read it, he was declared a "non-person", which might sound strange today, but in those days, not so much! But he also said at some point that he didn't want to return to his homeland now that they were ready to welcome him (he won the Lenin Prize in 1990, posthumously). My view is that he was bitter and hurt about the whole thing. I'm not sure about his family, did he have a big family to begin with (I know he grew up with his grandmother, mother and sister as his father abandoned them -- I've added a link that might be useful about this, I didn't recall if his son had joined him, so I guess that's a big issue!)? This article could use more info, but I'm almost afraid to touch it! XD 0cm 22:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to booklet to the Czech edition of Nostalghia, there were two reasons of Tarkovsky emigrating in 1984, (1) the intrigues of S. F. Bondarcuk against Nostalgia at Cannes 1983, and (2) the wish of his wife Larissa to stay abroad. He tried to get an official permission from Russian authorities for three year's stay abroad, but it was declined. 147.231.160.228 (talk) 10:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

text: It is not true that Tarkovsky's wife would join him in 1986 in Paris, she was with him all the time, it was his son and "grandmother" (his mother? Larisa's mother?) who were allowed abroad in fall 1986.  147.231.160.228 (talk) 10:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tarkovsky and Russia: Exile

message: Maybe something could be added about his relationship with other filmmakers?  Parajanov, for example, considered Tarkovsky a close friend and dedicated his last film to him (Ashik Kerib). Esn 08:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Friendship with [[Sergei Parajanov]]

message: Intro should summarize the article better, one FU image has no FUR rationale, entire sections don't have a ref. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 20:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA

message: This article appears to be primarily written by someone whose English is not their first language. Thus there's some curious word usage, some errors, and parts are hard to comprehend. It needs rewriting.
Also, there's some gaps in the timeline. Some sections make no logical sense, since there's missing information. It is unclear why he ended up in Italy, or whether or not he defected -- just as one example.
The whole article needs further attention from an English speaking expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.239.195 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 20 April 2008
:: He defected without making any official statemnet, but simply refused to return to the Soviet Union. He tried to stay away from politics and media to avoid risk of being attacked by the Soviets, and he knew what he was doing. He chose Europe, because he was censored several times during his career in the Soviet system, so he defected in pursuit of artistic and personal freedom.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.166.33.223 (talk) 23:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy

message: It is a shame that this great director has an article that lacks so much details. We should in particular include a section on his filming philosophy and style. His book Sculpting in Time is an excellent source. I will add more details, time permitting, but all help is appreciated. 75.5.220.57 (talk) 17:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The article does not leave one with the flavor of Tarkovsky. It does not distinguish his style enough to be able to differentiate him from any other common "great" director. PPdd (talk) 03:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: State of the article

message: I came across these two suspect lines
:"Water, clouds, and reflections were used by him for its surreal beauty and photogenic value, as well as its symbolism, such as waves or the form of brooks or running water.[22]"(the source provided mentions nothing about symbolism).
:"Bells and candles are also frequent symbols. These are symbols of film, sight and sound, and Tarkovsky's film frequently has themes of self reflection"
This is in stark contrast to what Tarkovsky himself said about his films;
:"We can express our feelings regarding the world around us either by poetic or by descriptive means. I prefer to express myself metaphorically. Let me stress: metaphorically, not symbolically. A symbol contains within itself a definite meaning, certain intellectual formula, while metaphor is an image. An image possessing the same distinguishing features as the world it represents. An image — as opposed to a symbol — is indefinite in meaning. One cannot speak of the infinite world by applying tools that are definite and finite. We can analyse the formula that constitutes a symbol, while metaphor is a being-within-itself, it's a monomial. It falls apart at any attempt of touching it" http://people.ucalgary.ca/~tstronds/nostalghia.com/TheTopics/Symbols.html
I feel that the mention of symbols should be removed and the sentences be reworked to better reflect Tarkovsky's own veiws. But I want to know what other people feel about this or if they got any objections to my proposal before I change thing.FSAB (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suspect symbolism 

message: I read in two NRS revival theater film notes (one might have been at Pacific Film Archive) that Tarkovsky did not trust Nykvyst and had a camera within a camera built to monitor him.  I put this in the article without RS.  If it is not correct, please revert my edit, and if it is correct, please add RS for it.  PPdd (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camera witin a camera, Tarkovsky mistrust of Nykvist cf Yusev 

message: The film is not notable on its own. JDDJS (talk) 01:53, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is worth considering, as well as with Hoffmanniana. For that matter, we could also name other projects Tarkovsky was thinking about, such as the Temptation of St. Anthony. TarkovskyFanX957 (talk) 18:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Concentrate (screenplay)]] 

message: The film is not notable on its own. JDDJS (talk) 01:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Hoffmanniana]] 

message: should i watch the tarkovsky films with the subtitles?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:152:4300:C015:DC9D:CC6:F446:EAB5 (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

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message: We read that the inscription on his tombstone was "ideated" by his wife. Although I now find that the word does in fact exist, I had never come across it in my life before - I am a 66-year-old, fairly well-read native English-speaker - and to me it looks and sounds like a mistranslation from another language! Perhaps replace it with a more everyday, readily understood phrase such as "conceived" or "thought up"?
:Fixed. Well, you could have do it yourself. Btw, we have a strategy to implant such "easter egg" words into articles to recruit possible editors. No such user (talk) 20:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "ideated" 

message: Under Influences it says: "With the exception of City Lights, the list does not contain any films of the early silent era." But City Lights, being a sync-sound film from 1931, is technically not a silent film despite its lack of spoken dialogue, and especially is not one from the early silent era which I would say ended before the '20s at the very latest. Unless it means more like "early, silent" era rather than "early-silent" era. Even so, it is not a Silent film in the very strictest sense as it has sound.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.93.8.2 (talk) 15:59, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Lights is not a silent film 

message: The source is "Мир и фильмы Андрея Тарковского. Сост. А. Сандлер. [Andey Tarkovsky's world and films] (in Russian). Moscow: Iskusstvo (Искусство). 1990. ISBN 978-81-7046-083-1." First, the book seems to have been published in 1991, not 1990. (https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3853440/; 1991 is also the year indicated on the book itself). But even putting that aside, the source does not refer to the exact page and I was unable to find even the mention of Terminator anywhere in the book. Can somebody verify this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marovaso (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can't seem to find Tarkovsky's remarks on Terminator 

message: Может ли неразбитое зеркало "изобразить" так как если разбитое ? 
В фильме были кадры где учитель и пацан с гранатой. Весь фильм о "зеркале". Наверное минут через 15 нас от полного зала осталось меньше десятка человек.. Я вышел пораньше штобы увидеть лица всех кто мог остатьця. Ничего в них я не увидел. 
Сейчас говорят о каком-то "ИИ". Штаты молчат. Может и у них пока нет чем могли бы похвалитьця. А может што все помалкивают .. Во-избежание.. Дали "АСИМО" мотоциклетному заводу для удивлений толп.. 
Реально - мы сами не поймём как обезьяны не мы. Фантастики с чипами в голове. Робот-полицейский. Робот и полицейский связанные одной цепью.. Не очень получаетця или ца .. 
Есть какие-то надежды с NASA, c LAC, c RadioAstron.. Нужен 3D-computer. Алфёров незадолго до смерти сказал о проблемах. Я тоже согласен што работы - на мноогие годы. Век будет што час. Мне так видитца. Просто потомушто 3D-мозга нет. Наши нервные реакции быстры насколько быстры химические реакции как работы так и восстановления сил. А скорость ответных электромагнитных реакций электронов в антеннах и схемах смартфонов ? Вы сможете также быстро нарисовать галерею художественных полотен в режиме video ?? ))) 
176.59.195.73 (talk) 05:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Сознание (intellekt) - зеркало (mirror) отражающее законы (low) объективного Мира (teality)". Ленин.  

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message: I recently created a page for Larisa Tarkovskaya, the second wife of Tarkovsky. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 02:48, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larisa Tarkovskaya