Talk:List of Scrubs characters/Archive 1

message: Hi, should Sam Thompson (the drug guy) played by Alexander Chaplin be added to the list of minor characters? He has appeared in 3 episodes (that I know of) - as recently as My Scrubs in Season 6.
Jaidv --203.206.107.154 12:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Mention of Sam Thompson (The drug guy?) 

message: the site does exist now, but it appears to be swamped. Getting the whole thing to load is a near-impossibility. Regardless, I edited the page to remove the note that says its doesn't exist. It's a technicality, but it does exist.
: It load perfectly fine for me, im changing it back —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.230.169.63 (talk) 01:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TheToddTime.com 

message: I've added a spoiler warning to the page. Anyone disagree with my decision? Crimson Shadow 19:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler warning added

message: Lonnie is the medical resident under the supervision of J.D. and Elliot played by Michael Hobert. He and J.D. occasionally spar with each other over insignificant incidents, but Lonnie has been spending an increasing amount of time with J.D. and Elliot. He is married with three children "that he knows of", and can grow a moustache in one day. Introduced at the end of Season 3, his role has continued to increase. Michael Hobert also appeared as an extra in the pilot. In a Season 4 episode, he was part of the "Triple Giant Doctor."
Bit innacurate, isn't it? Recently he's barely been in the episodes, and when he is he may have a line or two then he's gone again. Not what I'd call a role which "has continued to increase". Quite the opposite, really. Nor has he "been spending an increasing amount of time with J.D. and Elliot" in recent episodes.Crimson Shadow 20:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lonnie?

message: I think we should arrange the major guest cast in some kind of order to make it easier to browse. My suggestion would be chronologically by first appearance. Sarahjane10784 17:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor characters

message: Should Keith remain in major guest cast, or is it time to promote him to recurring cast? Sarahjane10784 03:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should play the wait-and-see game to find out the answer to that one?Crimson Shadow 19:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. EVula 20:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

text: He would be the first partner of a main character (not including Jordan) to be counted as a recurring cast member. I wonder if we should promote Sean too... or Dani? I don't know, I guess it probably makes sense to keep 'recurring cast' as only for current characters, in which case (as long as Keith is going to be a continuing recurring character) it would make sense to include him. So, do you have any citation about Keith becoming a main character? If so, I'd say promote him. --Gpollock 03:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What about Keith?

message: For the cameo section: Didn't Gary Busey (sp?) make a cameo?
:Definetly, when Elliot says that on her driver's license she looks like Gary Busey, in "My Missed Perception", i think. Fragsta 20:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: not really, a picture of someone doesn't count as a cameo. and busey is credited in the camoe section--Jac16888 10:24, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fragsta is right, Elliott said in all of her photos she looks like Gary Busey.  To which another doctor (Gary Busey) replies: "me too". 70.237.200.247 21:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  i know, thats why hes included in the cameo section--Jac16888 21:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gary

message: Now that Kim and JD have had this little fling and I am gasping at the unbelievable cliffhanger they left the last episode on.  Shouldn't we add Kim (Elizabeth Banks) to the minor characters list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.209.48.156 (talk • contribs) 
: Yeah, she should be under "Major guest cast" at least, although we should refrain from speculation as to her role next season: for all we know, her character could just be wrapped up and lost at the beginning of season 6. --Doug (talk) 21:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kim

message: Are we going to do the background extras that the producers make a running joke of in the commentaries? Snoop Dogg Intern, Colonel Doctor, Dr. Mickhead, et al. Mickhead is actually a somewhat of a recurring character in his own right. --Doug (talk) 21:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree to adding Mickhead, but I disagree with Colonel Doctor or Snoop Dog intern. Crimson Shadow 19:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The minor-minor characters 

message: Wouldn't anybody else consider Jordan to be a major character, now? --Fragsta 12:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Until she's credited as major, she's still technically minor. Maybe they'll bump her up to the major ranks in season 6. Crimson Shadow 17:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope so. Although, according to Bill Lawrence she often just decides not to work some weeks, and so they leave her out of the show. Fragsta 20:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jordan as a Major character? 

message: I have added a seperate entry for Bob Kelso's son. I think the numerous references, especially in season 4 and 5, warrant this. Where should I place this "unseen character"?And what about Enid and Barry, who are listed in Wikipedia under the article "list of unseen characters" or some such, but are missing here? It just seems that there is not a clear definition of what a minor character really is. I would really appreciate some feedback! SorenK 15:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Harrison

message: Anonymous user user:24.137.117.62 changed the spelling of the character commonly known and pronouced as 'Dr. Wen' to 'Dr. Ngyun' followed by a note that his name is pronouced 'Dr. Wen' in brackets. Unfortunatly this user has not provided a reference for this strange spelling of the character's name and I cannot find any reference from my limited search of websites associated with the show. I have therefor placed a citation request tag next to the name and if one cannot be provided within the next few days I think the character's name should be reverted back to 'Dr. Wen'. Canderra 22:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Dr. Ngyun' (Dr. Wen) 

message: What's the name of the one-armed security guard with the huge afro?--MonkBirdDuke 06:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Leonard. He's mentionned under 'Other recurring characters.' --Gpollock 13:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  One-Armed Security Guard 

message: Shouldn't Keith be in the major minor characters section? He gets far more screen time than the other interns and has had a decent amount of character development. --Seth Turner 05:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keith 

message: Ben Sullivan's entry on this page has consistently said he died of a heart attack, which is how the episode My Screw Up presented it; there was no mention in that episode that Ben died due to his leukemia (which was in remission at the time).  And yet, in Jordan's entry, one or more contributors have been insisting that Ben died of leukemia.  Do y'all know something I don't?  Did this come up in a later episode?  Because the ping-pong match was getting annoying, I've completely removed any mention of Ben's death in Jordan's entry, since it's discussed later in the article anyway.  If you are someone who insists that Ben died of leukemia, please explain your reasoning/evidence here.  Thank you.  --ScottAlanHill 06:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Giving that My Screw Up relies on unreliable narration, I'm not sure any cause of death can be concluded. Calbaer 02:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think everything in the episode, except for the appearance of Ben, was meant to be accurate (though deceiving); the episode wouldn't have worked so well otherwise.  Therefore, when J.D. says "He went into cardiac arrest", it's fairly certain that this was what he actually said, and that he is referring to Ben.  Of course, maybe the heart attack was due to the leukemia--is that possible?  Anyway, I'm willing to concede some doubt in the matter.  --ScottAlanHill 03:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure the heart attack was leukemia-related. I don't really know a lot about medicine, and I don't even know cancer can cause heart attacks, but it's pretty rare for someone to just randomly have a heart attack, and the episode made a big deal out of the fact that Ben hadn't visited an oncologist in two years. The cancer had been in remission two years before, but who knows what it did in those two years? --Gpollock 08:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't it the other patient that J.D. was bringing in on a wheel chair right when Dr. Cox left that had the heart attack. It was mentioned he had heart problems and that Dr. Cox said he looked at his E.K.G. and that he wasn't going to die within the next 30 minutes just to come back to find he did. MSanchez252 18:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: we know it was some form of heart attack because when j.d. told cox about the death, where we were meant to assume it was the old man who died, j.d. says "Twenty minutes after you left he went into cardiac arrest"--Jac16888 18:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What did Ben Sullivan die of? 

message: There seems to be some inconsistency between the "Major Guest Cast" and "General Cameo Appearances" sections. Some of the people listed in the "cameo" section had roles just as important as the people in the "major guest star" section. I think Colin Farrell, Dave Foley, Sean Hayes, Jay Mohr, Mandy Moore, DJ Qualls and maybe a few others in the "cameo section" should be moved to the "major guest cast."  And Jason Bateman in the "major guest cast section" did have more of a minor cameo role in the episode he was in. Also, maybe we should intergrate Gary Busey's appearance into the "general cameo" section, it seems a bit pointless to have a seperate section for a vague category that only he seems to fit. Anyone else agree? EJB341 20:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest Cast 

message: Why keep taking this section out?  He's a real character.  Just because he's unseen doesn't mean he doesn't exist within the world of Scrubs.  Hell, Dr. Kelso is talking about him all of the time.  I say that it needs to stop being removed. Carface 18:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unseen characters are typically left off such lists. Partly because the fact they are only known of verbally makes it hard for people to find information about them in episodes (instead of skipping to a scene where you see Lonnie in it, for example), partly because such characters often have long, confusing or even conflicting histories because writers feel free to come up with a line of humorous information about the character whenever they want. If you can come up with an accurate history of Elliot's brother Barry from all the crazy one-liners mentioned of him, yeah, I'd really want to read it. But it's a difficult task, however, and doing it for every unseen character is near impossible. Including one of these characters would open up the flood doors for the others. -- Viewdrix 21:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harrison Kelso 

message: On the show isn't she allergic to peanut oil? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.182.167.18 (talk) 22:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nurse Roberts allergy 

message: Where's Kylie? (: --abach 10:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kylie 

message: Currently, Glen, Irv and Dr Rotinaj are listed in this section. But all the other minor characters who are listed are characters who have recurred for at least two or three eps, wheras those three characters only appeared once in very minor roles. There have been dozens of characters who just pop up in one episode and are never mentioned again, so shouldn't we remove those three? 82.153.39.148 00:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Characters 

message: What episode did it say it was Kim? Everyoneandeveryone 23:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr Wen's first name 

message: The grief counsellor's name is said to be "Dr. John Hedrick" but isn't his name "Lester Hedrick"? 
Katzell 17:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grief Counsellor's first name 

message: The new section given to Boomer, a dog seen in only one episode mind you, seems a bit long and rambling.  It's more like an episode synopsis than anything else.  I think we should remove it, personally, but maybe it just needs cleaned up a bit.  EdenMaster 04:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: trimmed it down a bit, could still do with a bit of editing though--Jac16888 12:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done :) EdenMaster 17:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yep, you're version's much better --Jac16888 20:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boomer...? 

message: can someone please find out what role the following people played
*Ben Heff
*Kenny G
*Common
 
and add it to the list, as i cannot find them.
if no-one can find out, they should be removed--Jac16888 09:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Cameo Appearances 

message: Dr Wen's section gives his title as Chief of Surgery, but I'm fairly sure this has never been confirmed is the series. He still teaches interns/residents, which would presumably make him an attending. SH's Chief of Surgery was mentioned in My First Kill when Turk said "Elliot, you know the chief of surgery isn't gonna accept the surgical risk of a valve replacement on someone who's just gonna destroy it with drugs." This is just an assumption, but I would have thought Turk would have said "Dr Wen isn't gonna..." if he held that position. EJB341 12:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr Wen 

message: I believe he is shown at the end of 1.22 with both hands as JD and Ben are sitting outside.
: I can confirm this --74.214.39.2 00:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  When did Leonard lose his hand? 

message: I find no reason that Justin SHOULDN'T be on the page.  Just, like Steven and Rowdy, is a stuffed animal.  I want to thank 70.blablabla for fighting against the higher-ups to keep him alive! Masterwiki 01:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yes but unlike steven and rowdy, it only appeared for a few seconds in one episode, and was never alive. not to mention the fact that it has never been mentioned since, and has had no bearing on any storylines whatsoever, or even been seen outside J.D.'s imagination. if you're really that bothered you should just have a sentence about him on J.D.s page, or on the specific episodes page. oh and 70.237.200.247 is a vandal, the edits he made were destructive(restoring dead links etc) and since you redid all those destructive edits, that makes you a vandal too--Jac16888 11:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't that the same with Boomer? Masterwiki 18:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: boomer was the focus of a whole storyline, and was actually seen for more than a few seconds--Jac16888 18:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, that sub-plot was only for a few minutes and the cumlative time seen of Boomer was less than a minute.  And Jstin had to do with soul searching, which was what the entire episode was about.  Masterwiki 18:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

text: no, because the subplot spanned the whole episode, first with the patient wanting to see him, then with elliot sneaking him in, then getting caught, the giving dog to kelso. Justin was a joke--Jac16888 18:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Jac16888.  If Justin was only in one episode, and he wasn't featured prominently in that episode, then he isn't worthy of inclusion on the page.  There are hundreds of characters that are only featured in a single episode, and we don't note all of them. - Shaheenjim 03:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the above. A one-shot joke is not sufficient for mention on this page. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 17:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with Jac16888, good call tURBO 01:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Justin

message: Over the issue of whether justin, a toy unicorn which featured briefly in a J.D. flashback is worthy of inclusion in the animals section--Jac16888 18:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He should  be pat of the non-living items section.  Masterwiki 18:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop edit warring, both of you. Keep the Three-revert rule in mind, since you've both broken it already. --Wafulz 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Unicorn has been shown a few times (though I believe it only spoke once).  The unicorn is as important as Sanchez, and should be included. Oren0 18:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I have to say it shouldn't be on here, on the basis that it's not a real animal or featured regularly - afaik, it was a single episode "character". I'm personally not convinced Boomer should be listed, though I have some sympathy towards Sanchez who was insanely cool. mattbuck 21:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: i think you're mistaken oren0, justin has only featured once--Jac16888 15:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are we assuming that the unicorn on the front of his diary/journal isn't Justin?  "It's not a unicorn it's a horse with a sword on its head" :P Oren0 01:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Justin was part of a gag for a single episode.  I have wondered if Justin is the unicorn J.D. draws on his journal, but that's not been proven.  "Non-living items" has too few things in it to be feasible.  Stephen and especially Rowdy are a major part of Scrubs, and really the only others that could be mentioned in such a section.  My call is that Justin is simply not notable enough to warrant his inclusion in an encylopaedic article.  Sorry.  EdenMaster 01:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with EdenMaster - leave it out. Kat, Queen of Typos 03:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I confess - I don't watch scrubs - but to the outsider, the notion of a toy unicorn being listed as a "character" seems to be absurd at face value. Yeanold Viskersenn 19:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request For Comment 

message: What exactly are the definitions now of "other recurring characters", "major guest cast" and "general cameo appearances"?I guess it's a matter of personal interpretation here, but the system still seems a bit inconsistent to me. Some relatively minor people are in the "major guest cast" bit and some of the more famous guest stars are spread through all three sections. Some actors who played characters in plotline roles are still in the "cameo" bit and the "other recurring" bit contains some characters who appeared only once. EJB341 13:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I can see what you mean. I think the cameo section makes sense, but, really, the only difference between the other 2 sections is whether or not the characters worked in the hospital - which doesn't make much sense. I would say those 2 sections should be merged. --Gpollock 05:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: in a couple of weeks(after my exams) i intend to do a total re-organisation of this article, i may split the guest cast section into patients, visitors and others, for better readability.--Jac16888 16:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Differences 

message: Some people think that Boomer and Sanchez shouldn't be included on the page, what do you guys think? Masterwiki 23:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Boomer wasn't really a character in the same way Sanchez was. mattbuck 15:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: they were both the focus of an entire episode each.--Jac16888 15:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you guys think about Angie, do you think that she deserves a mention? 70.237.196.237 19:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 19:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Angie was a hamster in My New Suit, someone added it to the list recently, can't say it seems that notable, had only very brief appearances in the ep, compared to the rest of the animals, although, it had a bearing on other events of the episode--Jac16888 19:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: 1) why hasn't the Brain Trust been added to this list, and 2) why aren't his (alleged) children on the family list?
:They have never been seen, and frankly you can't trust anything Janitor says. Harrison kelso is at least consistent. mattbuck 02:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the cast picture shown in this article, the janitor is there, because this is the second picture that was taken, he's the one wearing the suit--Jac16888 10:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually that isn't him.  Look at the full size picture, he's got the wrong hairstyle and facial features.  This image is from the first attempt at taking the staff picture, the one Janitor wasn't asked to be included in, and he therefore ruined with a mirror.  My best guess is the writers threw in someone random with a suit to make it look like him and since that was his assigned spot in the picture.  Later in the show when they retake the picture, it is Janitor in the suit in the same spot next to Carla, but in the picture we have here, it's clearly not Janitor.  EdenMaster 04:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it isn't him, i didn't look to closely before, i knew the Janitor wore a suit and stood next to carla, i assumed that was him. We should try and get hold of the second picture for this article--Jac16888 10:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Janitor 

message: Since Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, I propose that the list be reduced to:
*Characters who appeared in multiple episodes
*Characters who appeared in extremely notable episodes (e.g. "My Musical")
*Characters played by a well-known actor (e.g. Many of the Spin City cast) or performer (e.g. Clay Aiken)
We don't need to list every character that has ever been on the show. Many of the one-time appearances (e.g. "Angie the Hamster") are simply far too trivial to be mentioned. I'd do this myself, but I want to get some feedback here first. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 22:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i disagree, A, because most character lists such as this, feature single episode appearances, B, most play some notable part within each single episode, C, the list also features as a cast list, after this afd. although, there are some very minor characters that could go, i don't see a problem with losing the following for starters, dr. jim bianca, Dr. Ginny Gerson, Naked Nancy, Dr. Kim and Dr. Rotinaj from the staff list, for starters, will go through the rest tomorrow, but when it comes to patients, it seems that each one had some point, or lesson to give--Jac16888 22:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Recurring characters should obviously stay (and probably be given a one-sentence description in addition to the link to their pages). The following are what I believe should be removed (maybe more in addition to these, and yes I know you've mention some of these already):
*Josh - one time, never seen again (OTNSA).
*Dr. Jim Bianca - never seen, rarely mentioned
*Dr. Ginny Gerson - OTNSA
*Naked Nancy - OTNSA
*Dr. Green - OTNSA
*Dr. Akbar - 2TNSA
*Dr. Kim - OTNSA
*Dr. Johnson - OTNSA
*Dr. Rotinaj - OTNSA
*Dr. Stone - OTNSA
*All animals except Rowdy and Steve
*Ms. Bell
*Brain
*Ms. Moran
*Mr. Groff 
*Ted Lange's character (doesn't even have a name!)
*Will Forte
*David Morrison
If you believe any of these should be kept, please provide a reason why. Remember that the  burden of evidence lies with the editor adding the material. It is up to you to justify keeping these things, not to me to justify removing them. Note also the this list itself it somewhat trivial, and that is what I'm trying to fix (by pruning away the junk). - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All single-episode appearances 

message: why aren't they mentioned?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.169.187 (talk) 13:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whos? --Jac16888 13:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Greasers 

message: He wrote an off-Broadway play about his father entitled Dr. Dad and briefly dated the actor playing Kelso. 
---
How can a fictional character date a real person?
I could understand if the actor dated the Kelso actor but the fictional person in question doesn't even have an actor playing him. My head hurts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lots42 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: right, this trivia is in-universe, Harrison Kelso wrote play about his father, and, being gay, dated the actor who played the role of Bob in the play. Got it?--Jac16888 15:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meta-Dating 

message: When the Janitor says "Come on! You can do this! You went to Harvard, for God's sake!" he is talking to himself (even if he is in the presence of Troy), so this shouldn't be taken as a suggestion that Troy went to Harvard. 129.67.158.52 17:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troy and Harvard 

message: In how far is Chet an homage to the very tall cop in Police Squad (forget his name)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.139.73 (talk) 00:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chet 

message: i dident see any notice of herbert, the super fat man who apears as a patient in an episode and has to be taken to the zoo for a scan  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.38.215.126 (talk) 18:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  herbert the fat man 

message: What about Nina Whoever, the bulldog personal-injury lawyer?
If I recall correctly, her initial appearance spanned several episodes, and she's been back a few times since.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdb484 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Her name was Neena Broderick, and she is currently included in the article under "Romantic partners". - Katzell (talk) 07:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nina 

message: Little person? Really? Come on, dudes. Lots42 (talk) 19:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winston 

message: I think it should be noted that it is implied in "My Life in Four Cameras" that J.D. has had sex with Rowdy before.
Dr. Cox: "...and basically every other flu that you can only get if you are fornicating with the animal it's named after."
J.D.: "Sure hope I don't have dog flu." 
ShokuMasterLord (talk) 13:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  J.D. & Rowdy 

message: Margot? I think the houskeepers name is the Asian name Margo? In the subtitles there is also Margo. --84.150.96.178 (talk) 18:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Margot?  

message: I'd swear on all my future children Mathew Perry (Chandler from Friends) made an apearance as a focus one time character, am I wrong?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.137 (talk) 01:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: yes he was, thats why he's listed, under hospital vistors, sincehe was there to visit his father--Jac16888 (talk) 12:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matthew Perry? 

message: Jill Tracy appears in a number of episodes and seems like a very important character to the show, however there doesnt seem to be a section on her at all.Flashfire1111 (talk) 01:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, she is a key character in at least two episodes, and has at least one subsequent cameo.   Ace42 (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So, fix it. --AussieLegend (talk) 05:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jill Tracy 

message: First of all, this article is way larger than the size limit (it should be around 80K, though some character lists go to about 90K). The article can easily be downsized by the removal of most characters on this list; keep the recurring and possibly the children, but remove the rest. Minor character lists are usually not kept, as they almost always fail notability. This article, for example, has no concept/creation/reception notes. So, my first suggestion is to move the list to "List of Scrubs characters." After that, remove nearly all characters unless they are recurring (note: some characers would be taken from the "season X" list, because they appear throughout the series during multiple seasons). And merge characters into this article, including major characters. All of them fail WP:N and have nearly no (if any) out-of-universe information. A simple merge into a main list, where each has a few condensed paragraphs explaining roles, friendships, etc, will make it more possible to get this to GA. 
So, opinions? And, please, do not cite reasons that fall under WP:IWANTIT or the like. In terms of notability and quality, what reasons are there to have a minor character list and in-universe character pages? And also note that, I'll handle page merges separately. This is just my idea, starting with moving and removing. I'll ask for consensus on individual character pages later. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Support all. Should be one single character list, minor one-shot/short shot characters shouldn't be in a character list, and none of the characters are notable enough to support having standalone articles. None have significant coverage in reliable, third party sources. The only side note I'd make is GA doesn't cover lists, so would have to aim for FL :) -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 00:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reply! Character lists can be covered under GA (as well as some discography lists). Examples include Characters of Final Fantasy VIII (FA) and Characters of Kingdom Hearts (GA); though they don't actually state "List" in the article titles, they are character lists, and there are FLs that don't state 'list' in the article name. This article could also be moved to Characters of Scrubs, though I don't mind either way. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd support a merger. I originally had all of the one shot characters over at Characters of Smallville, but I realized during the GAN that there were taking up space and anyone really important would be mentioned in the season pages. It took out like 40kb of space (but it wasn't readable prose, so it didn't matter that much anyway). I left only main characters and recurring characters. That's all this page really needs.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 19:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move, remove, and merge

message: I'm proposing merges for the "recurring character" section. All characters have no out-of-universe coverage and lack notability. All of these articles could be easily condensed and merged into this list. For now, these are the only characters I'm proposing to be merged. I'll set up sections for the rest of the characters one these are over and done with. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merges, part 1

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Jordan Sullivan]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ted Buckland]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Keith Dudemeister]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[The Todd]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Doug Murphy]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Laverne Roberts]]

message: * Merge Lacks out-of-universe information, proper referencing, and notability. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kim Briggs]]

message: The articles Jordan Sullivan, Ted Burkland, Keith Dudemeister, Dour Murphy, Laverne Roberts, and Kim Briggs have been merged here with no Consensus on the voting. Even knowing about the lack of consensus, WhiteArcticWolf just went forward and merged all pages. That so I'm opening a new voting for the splitting of these pages into their original places.
*Split for merger without consensus. FixmanPraise me 21:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Split of all Merged by [[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]]

message: The article as it is currently written says that his sexuality is "never explicitly addressed." However, at the end of the episode where he declares himself to be gay (and later admits that at least part of his motivation was because "chicks dig gay dudes), The Todd walks down a hallway one by one pointing out all the people he would like to sleep with, both men and women alike. Doesn't this at least strongly imply his bisexuality?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsfreeman (talk • contribs) 14:18, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably, though I think it may imply that he is pansexual than anything else. Either way, it would be considered OR. Perhaps the article should read it is "never explicitly stated." It's been a subplot before, but "adressed" seems to imply that it hasn't. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Todd's Sexual Orientation 

message: I think Lady should be included since she is currently the Janitor's wife and included in several episodes. Gooch should be added as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Jackie Jackson (talk • contribs) 19:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lady 

message: Should the Scrubs characters be merged to a larger article, like a list of characters article, until they can establish notability?   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 11:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Scanning through the articles, I only see a few pieces of information regarding the creation of these characters or their reception; only one, the main actor, has information that could potentially lead to more due to the awards received for the character.  The information given in all of these are either edging on OR, or are excessive retelling of the plot of the work, and can be compressed down better. Presuming that there has been a search for outside-universe information about the characters, a merge makes the most sense. But I would suggest a similar solution that was done at South Park: if it can be shown that two of these character articles can be improved to include outside-universe information, I would recommended letting the rest stay on the same presumption. --MASEM (t) 13:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *For a couple of reasons. First, because we have policies and guidelines that dictate when articles should be given their own article, and playing favoritism with some isn't fair to the others. On the other hand, we cannot allow everyone to have one on principle, because everyone doesn't deserve or warrant one. Secondly, if written well enough, it doesn't matter if it's in a single section or an article of its own (Main space proof is right here). Also, the article isn't 70kb. It's actually below 60kb (readable prose), and that also includes tons of sections that have original research that should actually be removed (that I intentionally kept in there for the purposes of showing that each characters section isn't that large...only about 4kb at their largest). Most of the "Minor characters" probably don't even need to be here, because they're beyond "minor" and actually exist in "irrelevant" because they've only appeared in 1 or 2 episodes. Given that we have episode articles, and their info is already listed there, their name should just redirect to their episode (one example: Danni, played by Tara Reid is an on-again, off-again fling of J.D.'s, similar to many of the women he has dated. She is the younger sister of Dr. Cox's ex-wife, Jordan Sullivan. Like J.D., Danni maintains an internal monologue in her head. According to J.D., she has hearing "like a bat". She is also seen dating Larry Thomas of Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" fame.). I guarantee you that if you cleaned out all of the original research, removed one episode characters that seem to have been included simply because some fan wanted them included, and practiced some summary style writing with the plot information (a lot of it is overly detailed when it could be stated much more efficiently in fewer words), that this page wouldn't be that large to begin with. Finally, I never said that I was against any of them ever having their own page. What I said was that they clearly fail all of our policies and guidelines right now, and have for a long time, and it would be better if they were merged together into a parent article until they can assert their own notability to be split off on their own.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 11:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You completely failed to analyze my comment, apparently. Its consensus that determines policy and guidelines, and what to do in general, and the consensus is exactly as I laid out. Neither one of us needs to quote policy to each other, and I'm extremely offended that you told me to read the notability guidelines. I've been here for 5 years. Why do you think these pages are a problem? I read what you wrote above but to me that's not a reason to put them on one page, its a reason to expand the articles. On another thought, these characters gain notability as time passes. Characters on Journeyman never became notable, because the show lasted 13 weeks. Comic Book Guy on The Simpsons has become notable enough for an article, even though is is an irrelevant character, because, for example, he is a common pop culture reference. JD, Turk, Carla, Dr Cox, Eliot and probably Dr Kelso and the Janitor have attained a level of common notability in a way that the community has shown they approve of in hundreds of character discussions across Wikipedia. You wanted comment, you got comment. Clearly there is no consensus here either way.--CastAStone//₵₳$↑₳₴₮ʘ№€ 01:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're looking at it from the wrong side. Time doesn't dictate notability. Something doesn't become notable simply because of time. The truth is that with time, notability can become more evident. How do you show notability? You do that through secondary, reliable sources. Lack of said sources suggests that the characters are not that notable. The fact that a show is on for 8 seasons has nothing to do with any specific character. If a character is notable then they are notable, even if the show itself isn't that popular or long lasting. Consensus is not based on popular vote. For someone who has been here for so long, I shouldn't have to reiterate that to you. If Admins were to close discussions based on what WP:CONSENSUS says, and not simply votes, many discussions would have different outcomes, because a lot of articles on Wikipedia have entire communities of fan editors that will defend said articles regardless of what any policy or guideline may or may not say. There is an inherent COI in that. If you cannot recognize when an article fails WP:NOTE, and would normally be merged to a parent article in almost any other case and is only staying around because a large group of fans cannot live without their individual articles, then you have a conflict of interest. These articles fails NOTE, and you are aware of it. If you think they should stay individual, then they need to satisfy NOTE. It's that simple.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 02:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

text: One good (but not perfect) way of assessing notability is doing a Google Scholar search or Google Books search to see how much real-world information (in the form of study) is devoted to the individual characters (rather than "the characters of Scrubs" as a whole).~ZytheTalk to me! 22:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose per Skittleys. 91.110.156.30 (talk) 22:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Should these characters be merged to a larger article

message: The section on Doug claims that it is implied in "My mentor" that his favorite show is "Days of our lives", although it's clear that he only selects "Days of our lives" out of fear of Dr Cox.
118.208.67.4 (talk) 05:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doug 

message: Who plays dr Cox' son Jack? Could it be a cast member's child or is it just a random kid? Axelv (talk) 13:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack 

message: There's more than one Lonnie in the world, including an inventor and several jazz musicians. Should the search "Lonnie" really redirect here? I think it should just go to the standard search page. 205.196.143.66 (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lonnie Redirect? 

message: While there is a tremendous quantity of information contained in the character descriptions in this article, it does not equate to quality.  The page reads like a fansite (an issue suffered by many articles related to long-running televisions series).
As someone who is casually acquainted with the show, I came here to read about the various characters and was inundated with episode synopses, extensive script excerpts, and references only a fan of the show could possibly care about (details about the minor character 'Hooch' come to mind).  While I appreciate the contributors' depth of knowledge about the details, I think an objective fan should go through and mercilessly excise and summarize a great deal of the info.  Two (maybe three) passages of info may be acceptable to detail major characters, but it's absurd to offer every little nuance of the minor character development and recurring roles.
There's a great opportunity here for a fan of the show to develop this into an encyclopedic article and it's something I look forward to reading if it can be accomplished.--K10wnsta (talk) 22:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality is Lacking