Talk:Yitzhak Ben-Zvi

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message: The changes made in the name of NPOV include a very POV statement "a highly controversial figure in the Jewish Yishuv". Also are you aware of any contradictory claims to those made in the book that would support the "allegedly" that you entered?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by KosherJava (talk • contribs) 06:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I certainly do. In every encyclopedia I have read, it says the order came from "Haganah" commanders. On the basis of one journalist's theory, you cannot state that Ben-Zvi ordered the murder. You can describe it as one hypothesis. This De Haan character was indeed controversial - a person who changed his views every other day, going from fervent Zionist to anti-Zionist, from secular to religious, from married to a Christian woman to a homosexual. These matters are complex (as is history in general), and Wikipedia is frightening in its ability to spread disinformation. Oh, and by the way, I also know of a theory that Ben-Zvi's wife ordered the murder--Gilabrand (talk) 06:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are few facts on de Haan, to back up the "POV" allegation that he was controversial:
 
"The name of Jacob Israel de Haan and his fate has somehow become associated with the Neturei Karteh, possibly because the story associated with him is unfavorable to Zionism. De Haas was never a member of the Neturei Karteh. De Haan was a gifted Orthodox Dutch Jewish poet and journalist, and a homosexual. He emigrated to the land of Israel in 1919, where he was at first an ardent Zionist. He defended Ze'ev  Jabotinsky when the later was tried by the British for defending Jews during the Arab riots of 1920. Subsequently however, de Haan became an anti-Zionist and a sympathizer of Agudath Yisrael . He agitated against Zionism and sent back anti-Zionist dispatches. He was becoming an embarrassment to the British as well as the Zionists. He was murdered in 1924, very probably by the Haganah for unknown reasons, possibly involving betrayal of Haganah members to the British or possibly because he was about to disclose embezzlement of funds." http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Neturei_Karta.htm--Gilabrand (talk) 07:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: the article is being repeatedly vandalized. this - יצחק בן צבי - is the correct hebrew spelling of Ben-Zvi's name. anything else is incorrect. can anyone protect this article and disable its editing by vandals? Pelegisrael (talk) 04:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: Shabtai Teveth| (1987) Ben-Gurion. The Burning Ground. 1886-1948. page 51 has Ben-Zvi's date of birth as December 6, 1884. Padres Hana (talk) 15:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: From an older investigation I did: Nov 24 is in B. Spuler, Rulers and Governments of the World III (1930-1975); Dec 6 is in Who's Who in Israel 1960 and 1962 editions. I believe that there is no contradiction. At the time and place of his birth, the Julian calendar was still in use and Julian Nov 24 1884 was the same as Gregorian Dec 6 1884. Is there a style guideline on which calendar to use? Zerotalk 01:31, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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