Talk:2006 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings

message: Discussion regarding this article is  here.--NMajdan•talk 13:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion about this article

message: The Coaches poll was released on the first friday of August last year. The first friday in August is two weeks from today (July 21). Everyone I have asked on Wikipedia said creating this article two weeks before is acceptable. This allows people to make changes to the lead on the article as well as suggest any other table/format improvements and allows time to implement those changes before population of the tables.--NMajdan•talk 13:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reason for early creation

message: I just discovered this blurb in the Colorado Media Day Media Guide (go figure): "TSN Players Poll. The first-ever Players Top 25 will be conducted this fall with the weekly results to be included in The Sporting News. Unlike the other polls, the players will not be identified and will be known only to the schools. Colorado has agreed to be one of the schools to participate in the experimental balloting; the yet to be selected player won’t be identified until after the season has concluded." Do we want to include this? Seems kinda gimicky. --MECU≈talk 20:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not. It is an interesting perspective. Do you mind providing a link to where you saw that? I know some other people who might be interested in that.--NMajdan•talk 20:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. Page 8 under This-N-That, last bullet. --MECU≈talk 03:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TSN Players Poll 

message: We need to go back through the preseason rankings and verify them. Due to the events at Oklahoma (oy), some polls have adjusted their rankings. I know CFN and Sporting News has. I will try to do this monday, but I wanted to give others a heads up in case they can do it earlier.--NMajdan•talk 02:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should/would it be good to list both polls by the same source? ie, it may be interesting if other teams changed other than OU to show them. Perhaps having the first (older) poll grayed out to make it stand out less? --MECU≈talk 04:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added one of the new polls. You can see how I did it. I decided to keep the old polls, that was a good idea. You can still gray it out if you want, but take a look at it and tell me what you think.--NMajdan•talk 16:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it. I'm worried if we grey it out it will actually standout instead of fade into the background. --MECU≈talk 17:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preseason rankings 

message: I reworded the intro a little to avoid a self-reference. Johntex\talk 21:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Self reference

message: I've generated a template that can be used for the major polls. BCS and Harris Polls it won't work since it's for 16 week polls and would be too difficult to code (read impossible, I tried). Do you think it would be useful to use this? I created it in the hopes that it would be easier for you pollsters to create and add information week to week. Template:16ColPollTable is the template and you can see the blank form. I've done an example poll with some of this years AP Poll here: User:Mecu/PollTableTest. The only thing I know it can't handle is ties. There isn't a way to hide the bar yet. Let me know if this would be preferable and I can keep working on it if it is. --MECU≈talk 14:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm....Interesting. Is there a way you can automatically fill in the correct color? Like, instead of Week2-1-Color have Week2-1-Change. The options would be U (up), D (down), and NPR (not previously ranked) and depending on the input, the correct color is used. But that template is definitely plausible. I guess for ties, we could just use the '(t)' next to the teams, for now at least. Good job, looks like a lot of work. Why does it go all the way to Week 25?--NMajdan•talk 15:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have updated this template to include codes to use u/d/npr U/D/NPR (Up/Down/Not Previously Ranked) as well as r/g/y R/G/Y. Also added is the tie feature of rt/gt/yt RT/GT/YT which is placed on the top of the two tied and it looks right. The table doesn't actually use all Week25 codes. This example only goes to Week16. I was thinking that I could create Week1 through Week17 (or whatever..20?) so that When it's just Week1, just use the Week1 template. When the next week comes out, you switch the template name to Week2 and add the new info. It would be easy to create this since the existing has 16 weeks, and creating lower weeks just removes code. This way would be significantly easier than changing this code to try and hide weeks until the data is added. I've also created a second method of doing this, whereby all the teams for the week are listed together and the the codes for that week are listed together. I'm not sure which makes more sense. I moved it off the poll page since it was really long, you can see the examples here. I don't expect this to take the place of the existing work. It's really just for next season and any past season that hasn't been done yet (so, 2004 and prior). Also, the one-week version could be used on other pages that just list one poll weeks' worth of information. Please take a look again, specifically at the User:Mecu/PollTableTest. The data isn't correct, it's really just for an example. All three tie examples can be seen in Week 2. If you have any thoughts on improvements, let me know. Thanks. (I just remembered I need to have the blue color as well. I shall add that, but only to the #1 and #2 positions so as to not make the code that much longer, unless anyone can think of a reason someone might want to highlight other spots? Say all undefeated teams?) --MECU≈talk 20:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I created an 8 column (8 week) version of the template at . I used it on 2006 BCS computer rankings where I discovered I really do need tie-yellow color codes (I tried to play the odds it wouldn't be needed, argh). I also need to add tu/TU td/TD tnpr/TNPR color codes so if there's a tie someone doesn't have to switch to using the g/r/y combination if they don't like. I used the u/d/npr codes as I think they are more intuitive. I like using it overall. I think it might help others in being able to help update the poll tables. I also think it might make vandalism easier (oh, I want my team #1 in week 5, so I'll change Week5-1). Perhaps subst: the template once it is complete and stable (like the 2004 rankings, if they used this template) so help prevent vandalism and to reduce the load on the server having to parse it over and over. --MECU≈talk 19:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poll Template 

message: I'd like to change (t) to T. I think it would look slightly more professional and reduce the use of ()'s on the page, but it would increase the size of the page for every tie, by 8 chars, so no significant. Any thoughts? --MECU≈talk 15:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm....that sub T looks a little weird. But, I agree about the need to get rid of the (). I guess I will agree with this. There's also т but I don't know if that looks any better.--NMajdan•talk 15:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to change tie marker 

message: I don't like the new name. First, in the 2006 season it was still known as I-A and I-AA. Only for 2007 and beyond is it Bowl Series (or Bowl Section?) and Playoff Series (or whatever it is), but I also saw I-BS and thought it was vandalism since BS can mean something else (ahem, didn't the NCAA think of this too?). I would rather have ...Division I Bowl Series... than I-BS. --MECU≈talk 16:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think its "Bowl Subdivision".  But I'm with you, I don't like the new name...I also thought someone vandalized the page as well. Seancp 16:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like it either, but yes, it was in effect for 2006. I put a notice on WT:CFB and I waited an hour. Granted, I guess that wasn't long enough, but I didn't get any responses at all and I really didn't think this would be a controversial change. The renaming was put into effect August 2006. I feel having the whole name "Bowl Subdivision" in every title is too long and the other abbreviation FBS is too vague. I'll hold off on any future changes.--NMajdan•talk 17:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But no one used it for the 2006 season. Can you show an article that uses this? I can show you many places that still use I-A and I-AA. But "BS" should not be used in the article title. Call it more of a marketing problem than a encyclopedic problem if you want. --MECU≈talk 17:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was used during game broadcasts on TV. And, more importantly, it is used on the NCAA website. I feel using BS is more encyclopedic because that is what the governing body of college athletics calls it.--NMajdan•talk 18:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It went into affect at the end of the 2005 season. .--NMajdan•talk 18:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparrantly, even the NCAA is confused.  There is no mention of the Bowl Subdivision (BS) in the 2006 Record Book, which was published in August, 2006.  So is the NCAA really using this?--Tlmclain  | Talk 19:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure they are. I posted the official announcement was was cced to various media companies. We'll see what the next record book looks like. The name change took effect after the 2005 season was over and the record books cover through the 2005 season, when it was still Division I-A and I-AA. A better indicator will be the next record book.--NMajdan•talk 19:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I'll go with that. FBS is better than BS by a longshot! --MECU≈talk 00:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name changed 

message: So, what else needs to be done to this article before nominating for Featured List? I say if it needs anything else, we need to get on it. This article is dying to join its 2005 brother.--NMajdan•talk 14:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's ready. It's better than 2005 because we have the т symbol which 2005 doesn't have (we should go use it there!). But I say submit it and see what they say. I'm ready to fix any problems they find. --MECU≈talk 18:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm going for it.↔NMajdan•talk 18:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured? 

message: Is it "BCS Rankings", "BCS rankings", "BCS Standings", or "BCS standings"? Is there an official name for it? --- RockMFR 04:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at  it refers to "standings", but it isn't clear if it's S or s. I would say then that we use "BCS standings" officially until we get something that perhaps says "BCS Standings". BCS Ranking should be moved to this better name, with the redirect perfectly acceptable to leave. Making the other redirect for the other S/s would be a good idea too. --MECU≈talk 13:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caps, etc 

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