Talk:Chrysler Horizon

message: Chrysler -Talbot produced, but never marketed, a 4-passenger electric subcompact city car in the US in late 1977-early 1978/I actually saw a shipment of such cars on the lot of a Cioncinnati Chrysler-Plymouth dealer.
I'm certain Chrysler would never have designed, profuced or deliverd such a car to dealers had it not been financially worthwhile.
So my question is: Why did Chrysler never market this car? Who stood to lose if this elevtric car were marketed? Who stood to gain if it were not marketed?
One thing is for certain: Had this electric car been marketed, the US and perhaps the rest of the world as well would have been much less dependent today on oil. JDS, Kefar-sava, Israel
:I don't think it would have been feasible for Chrysler to actually mass produce those (if they weren't custom jobs), since they were close to bankruptcy during that time. --ApolloBoy 02:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the late '70's third party conversions (to electric) of mass produced gasoline automobiles were fairly widespread in the US. I worked at a Toyota dealer that had an electric Renault 5 in it's inventory that was eventually destroyed in the late '80's after sitting unsold for over 5 years. I suspect the Chryslers you saw were similar third party conversions (probably of an Omni or Horizon.) And, ApolloBoy is 100% right: Chrysler had a hard enough time not losing its shirt selling gas powered cars at the time.Meersman 05:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Electric model?

message: Apologies for some really bad edits, but I'm not sure about the designation of this car as a "subcompact" in the first sentence, in an article that then goes on to compare it to rivals such as the Golf and Escort, which are "compact" (and also, neither of those terms is in use in Europe anyway).  Anyone got a bright idea as to how to make it consistent and correct? 92.21.143.70 (talk) 16:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is, of course, no simple answer because people of different sizes take a different view.   And there are different norms in different countries.   If you live in Sicily or Andalucia, an Opel Rekord or a Volvo 144 are large cars.   If you live in Germany or Sweden or Norway they are medium sized family cars.   Once you go to the land of the Chevrolet Impala the differences in perspective only increase.   The Horizon sold in considerable numbers on both sides of the Atlantic, albeit differently branded in different markets.   You can take a look at the opening para on the Vauxhall Victor to see one attempt (mine)at a solution.   Feel free to adapt that or to improve upon it for the Horizon.   Feel free to look at the Victor's talk page to see me banging on about the subject at greater length.   Happy day.   Charles01 (talk) 16:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subcompact? 

message: The article says "The Horizon was the first British-built hatchback of this size — launched two years before the Vauxhall Astra, three years before the European Ford Escort Mark III and five years before the Austin Maestro.".  What about the Austin Maxi?? Dieselnutjob (talk) 12:44, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  first British-built hatchback of this size? 

message: It's either a Chrysler-Talbot Horizon (with Chrysler pentastar) or a Talbot Horizon. Simca-Talbot never occurred simultaneously, since the Talbot badge was replacing Chrysler-Simca from 1979 with the PEUGEOT takeover of Chrysler Europe. See  --Robert (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: DarkPrinz is a somewhat problematic user, just check out their history. He's moved countless pages relating to the French automobile industry, often to much worse names. I don't know what to say to stop him, and thought that Chrysler Horizon was a good compromise between the Eurocentric and the Americentric viewpoints. Other, more obvious, names are also better than the current mish-mash.  Mr.choppers | ✎  01:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's no such car as a Simca-Talbot Horizon