Talk:Mujahideen

message: In 1998, Carter's national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, admitted that U.S. sponsorship of the mujahideen was launched by Jimmy Carter, in July 1993, to give the USSR its "Vietnam war".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.135.213 (talk) 18:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? Carter was the U.S. President from January 1977 to January 1981, and Afghan-Soviet war ended in 1989. Where does 1993 fit in? This article is full of what can only be called stupid errors. 

message: "Mujahideen are Muslims who struggle in the path of God." Means jack shit to anyone who doesn't already know something about the subject.77.86.192.53 (talk) 16:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better description 

message: Why the  disambiguation link to muezzin? The two words are not easily confused; one might as well link to magazine,  since that's  also an Arabic-derived word with similar initial and terminal sounds. 71.248.115.187 (talk) 01:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: The section Modern Jihadism is only one short paragraph that misses its dual nature and its fundamental problems vis a vis today's muslim struggles. Its dual nature: Al Qutb was a 1960's Egyptian religious leader, anti-imperialist and angry about the immense poverty persisting amongst so much oil wealth. His solutions (ending western hegemony in the world economy and redistribute power and wealth down the social ladder) were socialist-like, although he denied this, saying that with a proper Islam, socialism becomes irrelevant.
The other pillar of modern Jihadism is internationalist Wahabism, in which Saudi and Yemeni clerics, their pockets laden with oil dollars, try to unite all Muslims by 'purifying' Islam in all other countries into their own (very conservative) idea of what Islam is.
For Al Qutb, Western capitalism was essentially what was wrong with the world, while for internationalist Wahabism, 'fighting the crusaders and infidels' is only political rethoric, a propaganda tool to rally Muslims into their own Wahabi version of Islam.
The second contradiction in Jihadism is that in all countries where they had some sort of success, they joined national movements (Taliban in Afghanistan, Al-Shabaab in Somalia, other movements in Algeria, and Pakistan). But ten years later, these national movements all came to realise that international fighters increasingly turn their guns on traditional local Islam, and their national aim (fighting poverty and oppression of Muslims by an unholy regime) was not helped by international fighters. To the contrary. In Afghanistan, the Taliban are preparing to throw out Al-Qaeda, in Somalia, Shabaab is struggling to reduce the influence of international leaders, and in Pakistan Al-Qaeda is now told to shut up by the same military groups that previously welcomed them. Also in the south of Algeria and surrounding countries, AQIM is split between those who want to prioritize a national agenda, and those who want to attack 'apostate interests'. All national movements increasingly realize that international Mujahideen attract drones and CIA budgets that go their national oppressors. Also, being part of a union of caliphats as Al-Qaeda in the wherever, places wannabee national leaders in wherever under authority of an organisation that is often highly critical of their own idea of how to run things.
So modern Jihadism is marred with two major contradictions: a progressive, egalitarian agenda versus a conservative, hierarchical agenda, and a national, anti-dictatorial agenda, versus an internationalist, highly hierarchical agenda.
A more practical problem for them is, that they thrived on a political status quo, in which dictatorships disallowed all political opposition, leaving no other way for people to formulate political wishes then through Islam. With political space opening widely in many Muslim countries, Islam lost its exclusive position as the only possible arena for seeking change.
Shall we put somthing about this in the section Modern Jihadism?Pieter Felix Smit (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Jihadism: mixed origins, internal problems of realising the concept 

message: I'm looking especially at the end of the section on the Kosovo war with 14 citations for a single sentence. Should those get slimmed down a bit? Tautologous (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there is this guideline on the matter. Another helpful thing would be to take the opportunity and verify the citations--it's not uncommon for ones with that many numerous citations to have a few that aren't totally kosher, and Wikipedians are notoriously bad for taking as canon anything with a little blue number next to it. I dunno, give it a shot. Peter Deer (talk) 11:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many citations? 

message: EIN (talk) 04:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, if it's an accurate definition then it's encyclopedic. --Xiaphias (talk) 03:37, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Muslims who struggle in the path of Allah” is not an encyclopedic definition 

message: Seriously why? WarriorofShiism (talk) 01:46, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the flag of Tawhid Al-Shadhah removed? 

message: As other people have already pointed out, there are several factual errors and mistakes without proper citation to back them up. There are too many to list, but the first one I noticed was in the Burma section: "There were many Muslim Rebels in Rakhine State of Burma in 1946—a year after achieving Independence." Burma achieved independence in 1948. This sentence implies it gained independence in 1945, whilst it was still under British control during and after WWII ended. This makes me wonder what else in this article is factually incorrect that I am not aware of. – GeneralAdmiralAladeen (Têkilî min) 19:33, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is full of inaccuracies and possible self-research 

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