Talk:The Talented Mr. Ripley (film)

message: I've written a brief article on this church and corrected the wiki link. Ta dah! :o)Iamlondon 21:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chiesa della Martorana

message: If you find so many errors on the "Talented Mr. Ripley" page, why don't you correct them with the right plot summary and differences between the movie and the book.  Thank you. Dprevot 19:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors 

message: Ripley's gayness is a crucial component of character, and critical to the plot development: should this not be mentioned at some point?
--I'd like to agree vehemently.  His homosexuality is mentioned Twice in the entire article, and they're both rather obscure.   Returning to his cabin he meets with Peter Smith-Kingsley, a very minor figure in the novel whose role is expanded for the film. Their conversation suggests that he and Ripley have become lovers, and that Smith-Kingsley has seen Ripley kiss Meredith on the deck of the ocean liner. Realizing he's now unable to reconcile the Ripley he is with Smith-Kingsley with the Greenleaf that Meredith knows, Ripley strangles his lover. He muses despondently shortly before killing Smith-Kingsley that his lies about who and what he is have left him lost and alone forever; he sobs as he commits the murder. and The 1999 film also explores Ripley's fascination with Greenleaf as more overtly sexual. While this is alluded to in the novel, the film expands upon Ripley's feelings of jealousy and inadequacy, and creates greater tension between the characters.
This requires serious revision, in my opinion.  I was thrown for quite a loop when he was gay in the movie, after reading the section.
--Nnythm 02:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of his sexuality? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Talented mr ripley.jpg

message: The section Filming locations appears to contain a number of sentences/phrases that were lifted directly from . This section should be rewritten so that it does not appear to be a derivative work and it should be properly attributed. Thanks. howcheng  {chat} 16:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: Rippley  didn't kill Peter because he was afraid that Meredeth would find out  about his double-identity.  Rippley killed Peter because of his repressed homosexual urges. C'mon  people! I'm changing it. Why else is it an LGBT Project. Oblivious!  —Preceding  unsigned comment added by 98.26.119.240 (talk) 06:24, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally disagree ... but both of our opinions are unsourced editor interpretation, which is unnacceptable in an article. A reliable source needs to be provided to properly assert the meaning of this scene, but in the meantime it seems that the version requiring the least amount of interpretative stretch is the current "coverup" scenario, which is set up by Tom's running into Meredith (who knows him as Dickie, while Peter knows him as Tom). If your scenario were correct, he could've killed Peter before he bothered buying a ticket on the boat!— TAnthonyTalk 04:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The characters or the sequence of the film have to tell us what went on. If they did not say it then it cannot be described as such in the plot because we cannot assume what it is they are thinking unless t=what they are thinking is part of the dialogue. Such as it was said that Ripley saw their last encounter. He saw the last encounter between the two that was on screen. We have no idea if Dickie and the pregnant woman met before she drowned herself after Ripley became aware of their connection. All we know is that she is seen down by the shore looking at the group in the boat then walks away. Ripley did not have an allowance from Herbert, only Dickie. Dickie's passport was never altered except when it is presumed that Dickie has committed suicide and Ripley scratches out the photo. The only forgeries of Dickie's signature are when he and Marge "break-up", he gets money from the AmEx office with Logue and signs the "suicide" note.2605:E000:9152:8F00:B88F:9EB2:B49D:91E5 (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot misconceptions 

message: I have taken out the part of the plot summary describing Tom Ripley as a "sociopath." First of all, he is never described as one in the movie itself, and speculation about a character's mental or psychological state does not belong in a plot summary. Second, the journal article cited  doesn't actually describe Ripley as a sociopath or psychopath. The article includes him in a list of famous movie characters commonly perceived to be psychopaths, but it explains that some of the characters on the list (such as Norman Bates or Travis Bickle) wouldn't qualify as psychopaths according to the clinical definition. There is a common tendency in popular culture to use the terms "psychopath" and "sociopath" loosely to describe just about any violent and/or dangerous person, even if they don't fit the psychiatric definition of the term, and that's part of what the article was about: the difference between cinematic depictions of psychopaths and real-life individuals who fit the term. (All this said, I think there is a reasonable case to be made that Tom Ripley does fit the term, but it needs a better source, and it belongs in a different section than the plot summary.) marbeh raglaim (talk) 07:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the removal because, as you write above, "he is never described as one in the movie itself, and speculation about a character's mental or psychological state does not belong in a plot summary." I was never happy the description. Thank you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Young sociopath" -- I have removed phrase 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This is a very confusing statement as Marge had no intention of living in Rome, that is why she returned to the States with Dickie's father. The use of the word "left" is vague as it can mean at least two things: that Dickie broke off their engagement or he let Marge live in Rome. Marge did not need Dickie's permission to live in Rome. And to say he merely "left" her leaves it up to speculation as to what is he doing. Not every one has seen the movie.2605:E000:9143:7000:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a note to say that I hear you, and I hope that no further misconduct happens here. Sam Sailor 02:23, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dickie has left her to live in Rome" 

message: , I informed  about what MOS:FILM says about Rotten Tomatoes for older films. The editor restored the RT score but put it at the bottom per the guideline's recommendation. If you still think the RT score should not be included at all, let us know. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the RT score is dubious for older films.  I question its legitimacy in general, but for older films especially, its score is questionable.  That said, I have no intention of enforcing my own view against consensus.  Has this been discussed in the Filmproject?  If so, can you point me to that discussion? ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:41, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotten Tomatoes 

message: This article is gravely misleading. 
Readers might think that the film is a brilliant original piece of work, when in fact it is a pallid woke-ish remake of Plein soleil, released in 1960. My gentle effort to point this out has been deleted without discussion. 
Though Hollywood and devotees of its output may live happily in their absence of aesthetic judgment and ignorance of history, shouldn't an encyclopedia take a worldwide view? Belle Fast (talk) 11:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comment. Both films are based on a novel, so they are each individual adaptations of that novel. One is not a remake of the other. The proper place to mention Purple Noon is in The Talented Mr. Ripley, which that article does. You'll find that in general, the article for an adaptation does not reference previous and future adaptations, as the works are unrelated except for the source material. In this case, the mention of Purple Noon in the lead reads as trivia, especially when no connection to the earlier film is supported later in the article. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 15:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failure to attribute original