Talk:United States Park Police

message: *Being There (1979 film)
*Forrest Gump (1994 film)
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*In the Line of Fire (1993 film)
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Bangabandhu (talk) 14:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: In popular culture

message: Almost the entirety of this article is unsourced. The best I could find for where the text came from was this diff, which doesn't provide any specific sourcing. I am removing the text and copying it below. Hopefully someone can find an acceptable source. There is also the obvious WP:COI but that's secondary to the absence of sourcing. 
=== USPP SWAT team ===
The United States Park Police Special Weapons and Tactics Team has been in existence since 1975. This highly trained team is proficient with a variety of weapons including submachine guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles, and less-than-lethal weaponry. The SWAT unit conducts weekly high-risk search warrants and provides vehicular escorts and motorcade support for the President of the United States, the Vice President, and visiting heads of state in the District as well as at Camp David.  The Park Police SWAT team often provides tactical support to the many demonstrations in Washington, D.C. Also, in conjunction with the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, Casualty Care Research Center, SWAT has trained thousands of personnel from police departments, military units, and fire departments from the United States and abroad in tactical emergency medicine as part of the CONTOMS program.
SWAT conducts basic SWAT schools annually, which are routinely attended by members from outside departments and the United States Armed Forces. The physically and mentally grueling basic training allows officers to see what they are capable of under extreme fatigue and stress. The SWAT team also uses their armored vehicles at demonstrations on The Mall such as the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear, the Restoring Honor rally, United States presidential inaugurations, the National Christmas Tree Lighting, and other major national events in the DC area.
When the Washington Metropolitan area was under siege during the 2002 Beltway sniper attacks, the SWAT Unit was flying daily missions with the Aviation Unit in an attempt to apprehend the fugitives. During the Norman Mayer incident in the early 1980s the USPP SWAT team counter-sniper unit took action from the top of the Herbert C. Hoover Building into a moving vehicle at the Washington Monument.
=== USPP Motor Unit ===
The United States Park Police purchased its first Harley-Davidson motorcycles in 1917. These Harley-Davidson motorcycles were assigned to the first sergeant and one private. The second sergeant and 41 privates were mounted on bicycles, one man left to be a "footman." During the fiscal year ending June 1917, the force handled 717 offenses. The most common charge was for drunkenness, for which the most common sentence was time at the workhouse. There were few serious offenses, the worst being six cases of assault and one of robbery. Twenty-five members of the force were called upon to arrest about 50 women for climbing on the Lafayette statues in Lafayette Park and holding a women's suffrage movement meeting there.
In 1919, the force acquired a major new responsibility with the acquisition of Rock Creek Park and its parkway. By 1920, with the addition of four additional motorcycles, traffic related offenses rose to 439.
As of 1921 the force had a lieutenant, three sergeants, and 53 privates. Two of the sergeants and seven privates rode motorcycles, the lieutenant, the third sergeant, and 45 privates rode bicycles, and the remaining privates were horse mounted. By 1925 the Motor Unit had grown to a force of twenty motorcycles for use on the "highways" of Rock Creek Parkway as well as East and West Potomac Parks.
With the increase in motor vehicles for the public came an increase in the use of motorcycles for the force. With this advance in "new transportation" came an increase in motor vehicle violations. This was evident from the 1942 memo which read "Special attention 'Motorcycle Men.'  in the event an officer of this department has reason to stop a motorist for a traffic violation and fails to issue a ticket or arrest the person for such violation, he shall submit a written or telephonic report to this office before he goes off-duty. Signed Captain M.H. Raspberry." From 1931 to 1939, the force recorded 60 reported injuries to members of the Motor Unit, along with one death. During the early years of World War II, Motor Officers were directed to conduct "black-out drills" and assist with movement of civilians from their offices. Many changes occurred within the Motor Unit at that time as needs of the nation's capital changed with the progress of the war effort. There were added responsibilities of coordinating scrap metal drives, gasoline rationing, etc. Memorandums from this time dictate that all "motor men" act in a professional and courteous manner.
During the course of the 1950s and 1960s, the unit had grown to approximately 60 motorcycle officers. The most common formal training received at that time to be "mounted" was a few laps around the maintenance yard.
Today, new officers are trained by IPTM-certified force motorcycle instructors. Training consists of an 80-hour course with road and off-road courses. There are required courses in high-speed pursuit, short-obstacle maneuvers, and an officer safety and survival course. In 1996, at the personal request of King Hussein of Jordan, three members of the training staff traveled to Jordan to train the royal family and Royal Guard.
Officers assigned to the Motor Unit are required to ride year-round. Officers are required to ride with a sidecar from November to March each year. This requires completion of an additional 40-hour course for each new member of the unit. This is mandated by the units' function as a Principal element in escort duties for the President, Vice President, and foreign dignitaries while in the nation's capital. The unit works closely with the Secret Service and the Department of State on these escorts. This Motor Unit has been escorting the President of the United States since its inception in 1921.
Additionally, the unit is responsible for performing various traffic and patrol duties, as well as duties during numerous special events and demonstrations.  Such events have included the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, the civil rights and anti-war demonstrations of the 1960s and 1970s, United States Bicentennial celebration in 1976, the 1995 Million Man March, the demonstrations against the World Bank and International Monetary Fund in 2000, the annual National Cherry Blossom Festival, the annual Rolling Thunder Run, and the annual National Christmas Tree lighting in early December.
In 1995, due to injuries and retirements, the 16 remaining privates of the Motor Unit accounted for over 5,000 moving citations. During the September 11 attacks, members of the Motor Unit were among the first responders to the Pentagon, escorting government officials out of the city, and securing approximately one-third of the District of Columbia after the attacks. Members of the Motor Unit have also been detailed to travel to events such as the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, GA, Death Valley, CA for Outlaw motorcycle club rides, Boston and Philadelphia for United States presidential nominating conventions, and other areas of large demonstrations. Officers of Motorcycle Unit account for one-third of the line of duty deaths in the 216-year history of the force.
Currently, the force has 30 assigned motorcycles in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area and four assigned motorcycles in the San Francisco office. This creates a motorcycle unit that is assigned to both the East and West coasts of the United States, and that truly encompasses the name "United States Park Police Motor Unit.
=== Canine Unit ===
The United States Park Police Canine Unit was established in 1959, the first in the Washington, D.C., area. Two years earlier, Chief Stewart sent Sgt. Alfred Beye to the  Royal Canadian Mounted Police Training Kennel in Nova Scotia, Canada. Sgt. Beye then trained with the Baltimore City Police Canine Unit and returned to train the first canines.
The first handlers were members of the Horse Mounted Unit. They trained each dog in different language commands, so that others could not control them. These included Spanish-Indian, German and Japanese. Once they trained the dogs, they would trot along next to the horse-mounted handler while he patrolled the horse trails. Eventually, the force only assigned the canine handler the duties of working with a trained dog. By the early 70's, only one canine team remained.
The Canine Unit is specifically trained for drug and explosives detection. This special unit also provides search and rescue services and assists in securing areas prior to the arrival of the President, Vice President, and visiting heads of state. In 1974 the force added the first explosives detector dogs. Also in the mid 1970s, the Force trained the first narcotics detector dog teams. Over the years the canine unit has moved between the Patrol Branch and the Special Forces Branch, to which it is currently assigned. The force currently has a number of canines which are assigned in Washington, D.C. as patrol dogs. Several of these dogs are also cross-trained in narcotics detection. The force also has officers and canines assigned as explosives detector teams in Washington, D.C. The force has a number of dog teams assigned in the New York Field Office and the San Francisco Field Office.
=== Horse Mounted Patrol ===
The horse-mounted unit was established in 1934, and is one of America's oldest police equestrian organizations in the United States.
Horse-mounted patrols are assigned to federal parks in Washington, D.C., New York City, and San Francisco. These nationally acclaimed officers and mounts are highly respected for crowd management techniques. They also function to maintain order during major demonstrations and special events and have been transported to other sites in the National Park system to control demonstrations.
The first use of horses by the United States Park Police followed the general trial-and-error method that prevailed throughout much of police work in those days. Rock Creek Park, a  tract of heavily wooded terrain lying in the heart of Washington, D.C. is interspersed with equestrian trails that required special policing methods for which the horse is ideally suited. Large park areas with open spaces, picnic areas, ball fields and other activities were soon found to be places where horses could patrol more effectively than foot officers or motorized vehicles. Because of this, stables were erected and new horse-mounted boundaries were established.
The nation's capital hosts many civic functions each year. Some of them are annual events and some have a national and international character, such as the National Cherry Blossom Festival, the Christmas Pageant of Peace, and presidential inaugurations. During the 1960s and the 1970s, the horses, in addition to being an attractive unit for display in parades, were found to be highly effective in crowd and traffic management at these functions. The horses were properly trained and conditioned to maneuver in crowds of people and through heavily traveled roadways so they would not endanger the public, themselves, or other riders.
The U.S. Park Police Horse Mounted Training Staff receives numerous requests from outside agencies to provide them with training. This agency has assisted the U.S. Army, U.S. Secret Service, and police departments from Maryland, New York, West Virginia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Colorado, New Mexico and many others. Instructors are regularly requested to provide training at police seminars as mounted colloquiums held throughout the United States. The United States Park Police Horse Mounted Unit offers the 400-hour remount training free of charge to outside law enforcement agencies.
Bangabandhu (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing and origin 

message: The horse-mounted unit was established in 1934, and is one of America's oldest police equestrian organizations in the United States.
Horse-mounted patrols are assigned to federal parks in Washington, D.C., New York City, and San Francisco. These nationally acclaimed officers and mounts are highly respected for crowd management techniques. They also function to maintain order during major demonstrations and special events and have been transported to other sites in the National Park system to control demonstrations.
The first use of horses by the United States Park Police followed the general trial-and-error method that prevailed throughout much of police work in those days. Rock Creek Park, a  tract of heavily wooded terrain lying in the heart of Washington, D.C. is interspersed with equestrian trails that required special policing methods for which the horse is ideally suited. Large park areas with open spaces, picnic areas, ball fields and other activities were soon found to be places where horses could patrol more effectively than foot officers or motorized vehicles. Because of this, stables were erected and new horse-mounted boundaries were established.
The nation's capital hosts many civic functions each year. Some of them are annual events and some have a national and international character, such as the National Cherry Blossom Festival, the Christmas Pageant of Peace, and presidential inaugurations. During the 1960s and the 1970s, the horses, in addition to being an attractive unit for display in parades, were found to be highly effective in crowd and traffic management at these functions. The horses were properly trained and conditioned to maneuver in crowds of people and through heavily traveled roadways so they would not endanger the public, themselves, or other riders.
The U.S. Park Police Horse Mounted Training Staff receives numerous requests from outside agencies to provide them with training. This agency has assisted the U.S. Army, U.S. Secret Service, and police departments from Maryland, New York, West Virginia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Colorado, New Mexico and many others. Instructors are regularly requested to provide training at police seminars as mounted colloquiums held throughout the United States. The United States Park Police Horse Mounted Unit offers the 400-hour remount training free of charge to outside law enforcement agencies.
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Bangabandhu (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horse Mounted Patrol 

message: Also for Authority the Park Police as a federal agency have a broad jurisdication. The way one editor edited this portion is misleading. It's the same thing as going on the NYPD page and saying they don't have authority in NJ. It isn't necessary to state this and serves as another example  of bias toward the dept.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.82.32.13 (talk) 09:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced text 

message: Park Police Officers must be U.S. citizens over the age of 21, but under 37 when they first apply.  They must have at least 60 college credits or two years of military service at the time of appointment or combination of both.  Upon completion of academy training(16 weeks of LMPT prior to 2008, 12 weeks of UPTP after 2009), officers are initially assigned to the Washington, D.C.  area, where the largest contingent of Park Police is located. They are trained at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Brunswick, Georgia. After training is completed at FLETC, new officers must successfully complete field training.
Dispatchers must be U.S. citizens at least 18 years of age or older, have college credits or prior dispatching or law enforcement/military/public safety experience. Dispatchers must pass pre-placement testing and a vigorous background check. Training is conducted within the district which they are assigned to.
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Bangabandhu (talk) 13:22, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Admission to the U.S. Park Police

message: An untemplated IP has recently added text, all of it sourced to this page - https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/index.htm
- which has one, three sentence paragraph, and a YouTube video. Very little of the addition is supported. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:08, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cites 

message: Hello I am new to wiki. There has been on ongoing edit war and biased additions to the U.S Park Police page. I support neutral and fair editing or additions. User Bangabandhu  has made many biased additions to the page which was already in good order. Talk feature with Bangabandhu has not worked and the user keeps reverting additions or edits I make. The challenges I would like to make to this page are as follows,
- 2017 shooting incident does not have to have two sections. One section is good enough and it does not need to be in the Lede. I think this is a fair and balanced request.
-Under Authority, this section is poorly sourced in reference to when Park Police can follow a vehicle out of their jurisdiction. I challenge this entry. If the editor cannot use a good source like DC,VA,MD code, or Park Police Policy I would like this entry removed.
-Under Operations, the Park Police have been in existence since 1791. I think the day to day operations consist of more than just body camera issues. Maybe an editor can add information about patrol functions. Someone looking to learn something about the agency will not learn much from the current information listed.
-Under "Other Operations", I feel editor "Bangabandu tries to downplay the significance of the Park Police role at the Washington Navy Yard shooting. There were cited sources which indicated the  Park Police helictoper rescued shooting vitims on the roof of a building and also killed the gunman. "Other Operations" should be titled "Washington Navy Yard Shooting". And again the editor lists an incident where illegal vendors were handcuffed on the national mall and another where illegal food vendors where ticketed. For an agency that has been around since 1791 the editor has cherry picked  2 negative articles for this Wiki page that shows a clear bias. There are other topics and alternativly postive views that can be added. I ask that the incident with the illegal food vendors be removed. 
Thank you for the assistance. 164.82.32.13 (talk) 04:13, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , article is not protected. Fish+Karate 11:41, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2018 

message: I have considered reverting a litany of incidents that have been added to this article.  While these incidents have been noted in the press, there is no evidence that they are particularly noteworthy.  They may have wp:undue.  Would appreciate some discussion before doing so.-- Work permit (talk) 05:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I support your recent changes and agree that the heading is unnecessary. The incidents that are less significant than the shooting deserve inclusion - we're talking about a few sentences and nothing more. Bangabandhu (talk) 15:32, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

text: I agree with your input. The page was fine the way it was before major editing occured. I'm fine if someone wants to leave the 2017 shooting on the page. However it only needs one section and does not to be in the lede. All the other non-sense with food vendors and illegal vendors can be left off the page. Body cams don't belong in the Operations section either.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.82.32.13 (talk) 06:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

text: Please provide cites of incidents that you think are missing. Bangabandhu (talk) 03:18, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for replying. What threshold would you suggest we apply for inclusion?  Every news article in which the park police actions are discussed?  I’m struggling to find an answer. -- Work permit (talk) 04:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Its probably some combination of factors, including the amount of media coverage, the relevance of the incident to larger issues of policy and police procedure, the ongoing significance of the issue. Though right now it's all theoretical, as there aren't any specific incidents that we know are missing. Bangabandhu (talk) 20:09, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue weight on a number of incidents. 

message: Large portions, if not the entirety, of recent additions to the page are copied verbatim from the NPS website. See WP:COPYVIO. Bangabandhu (talk) 18:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Content copied from public domain sources is not a copyright violation.  See WP:PD section 2.1. Attribution is still required. Gab4gab (talk) 22:01, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if its public domain, its still plagiarism and paraphrasing is required. Wikipedia isn't a mirror of a USG website - at least that's my reading of WP:COPYPASTE. Bangabandhu (talk) 22:40, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this quote from WP:PLAGIARISM section 3.3 (my emphasis) will be helpful: "A public domain source may be summarized and cited in the same manner as for copyrighted material, but the source's text can also be copied verbatim into a Wikipedia article. If text is copied or closely paraphrased from a free source, it must be cited and attributed through the use of an appropriate attribution template, or similar annotation, which is usually placed in a "References section" near the bottom of the page (see the section "Where to place attribution" for more details)." Gab4gab (talk) 23:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm impressed with your knowledge of the guidelines. Do you think blindly copying text from a USG website and pasted to a wikipedia entry, even if properly attributed, is in keeping with Wikipedia, with the pages you've read and edited? Bangabandhu (talk) 17:47, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio and copypasta 

message: I can find no evidence that he was convicted.  Nor can I find evidence he is no longer alive.  Per WP:BLPCRIME I have deleted the entry.  As an aside, I don't see evidence the alleged crime was committed while on duty, hence I don't see the relevance to USPP operations.---- Work permit (talk) 03:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. Thanks for this and the reorganization. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hugh Irwin 

message: Please do not turn this page into political propaganda page. In all articles about Law Enforcement agencies, Incidents are going at last part of the article. Here it is before "Organization" and "Structure". Just compare with other articles. Why this one should be different ? Stop using Wikipedia for personal purposes. This is not a place for political games. We have general structure, do not violate it. Or at least explain me why this article is specific and has different structure (comparing with other Law Enforcement agenices articles). M.Karelin (talk) 10:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly are you referring to? If there's a template, you should cite it here. The page is well-sourced and balanced. If you think there's something missing, you should add it.Bangabandhu (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This article - Federal Bureau of Investigation - can be an example, and this one - Drug Enforcement Administration - is too. Look where controversies sections are located. M.Karelin (talk) 03:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propaganda again 

message: Following content is unsourced. I'm placing it here until its properly referenced. 
Heading - Organization
Heading - Rank structure
Title               	Insignia
Chief of Police     	
Assistant Chief     	
Deputy Chief        	
Major               	
Captain             	
Lieutenant          	
Sergeant            	
Private/Investigator	N/A
Bangabandhu (talk) 12:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced 

message: New Chief named to head USPPIrish Melkite (talk) 02:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Chief 

message: I notice that several police departments in the U.S. we're mentioned carrying the H&K P7 M13.   I was a member of the Detroit Police Dept from March of 1972 until June of 1998.  On April 1st, 1987,  after an extensive testing of department volunteers, Detroit formed its first full time SWAT team called The Special Response Team.  We carried the H&K P-7 M13 pistol. It was the most accurate pistol tested for DPD and exceeded all department specs.  It was all steel and had plastic grips.  For on the team use, we usually carried the Federal +P+ ammunition.  Again the pistol functioned flawlessly.
I carry this great pistol during my time on the team for 11 years. 
It was very dependable and accurate pistol I have ever used.
We fired so many rounds through these pistol and never had a stoppage or failure.  I retired in 1998, wish I had one today. 2600:1700:CDD0:4300:10B:4210:C29E:5EB1 (talk) 01:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  P-7 M-13