Talk:Pink Floyd/Archive 5

message: In the first block of information it says the band was originally lead by "the late Syd Barrett." This wording should be changed as "late" implies he died shortly after his stint in the band, whereas he died in the 00's rather than the late 60's. While his mind may have essentially "died" back then, obviously he didn't. Bm5481 16:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording of Syd Barrett's Role

message: In the infobox, I don't feel that we should list the years of membership for each Pink Floyd member.  That information is listed at the end of the article, and since that is the case, there is no need to list the same information twice. Tkd73 14:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No I don't think so, he was more of a guest performer than part of the band. It would be nice for him to be officially declared as part of the band if they ever did play more shows though.... ( Davehard 13:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the span of time (I don't remember when) when David Gilmore was the only "Official" member, when everyone left but came back later as "guest members"?  (A Momentary Lapse of Reason? was it? It had Gilmore's name in bold and larger point size than the other 2, Mason and Wright) I remember there was a time but did not see that here anywhere.  Maybe he left then came back before the recording?   Billy Nair 23:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

text: He was, at the very least, in Tea Set, the band which actually became The Pink Floyd Sound and later just Pink Floyd. It appears to me that he was probably still involved after at least the first name change. And by the way, Syd was not in the Abdabs / Sigma Six / whatever name they happened to be using that week; he didn't join until shortly after Waters, Klose, Mason and Wright reformed as Tea Set. PurplePlatypus 05:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members and Former Members of Pink Floyd 

message: I find it somewhat disconcerting that the vast majority of this article is drawn from an American point of view, whereas Floyd were far more popular in Britain. This, coupled with the fact that they're a British band to begin with, is a little irritating. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.76.176 (talk) 18:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it ?  That should be changed. What specifically are you thinking of, though ? -- Beardo 20:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  American point of view 

message: Is there anything else we could possibly add to this article? I dont think there is, and if that is the case maybe we should stop editing it. Im not sure this article can be improved at all any more, because theres nothing else to add - Ummagumma23 27 January 2007.
There is this one small thing. The article says "David Gilmour is known to have referred to the group as "The Pink Floyd" as late as 1984, though they never released any recordings under that name." The latter is incorrect, I think. I have a copy of the "More" album that mentions on the front "played and composed by the pink floyd", and at the back again "produced by the pink floyd". I will not make any changes myself at the article, as I am new to Wikipedia (and not a Pink Floyd expert at all), maybe somebody else would want to make a move? - Donald Weber 14:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anything else to add? 

message: i think we should have a section in the artical for covers.
my real reason for writing tho is i would like to find out wat bands have done covers of pink floyd songs, and what songs were they. should this be in a seperate artical?? or not?? - Fleta000
This information is in the trivia section for Pink Floyd, Pink_Floyd_trivia#Tributes. ErleGrey 23:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  covers??? 

message: I think that a DVD and Video section is worthy for Floyd's discography summary on this article to outline the fact they have DVDs aswell as albums and singles but whenever someone has added it, it gets removed. What does everybody think? Davehard 17:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A full list is available in the main discography article. Anyway, I wish to see here more opinions.--Dr. Who 12:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I was the last to add the Pink Floyd DVD's to the list, I guess I'm obliged to agree with you. Not all Pink Floyd Videos should be included, but the two essential ones (Pompeii and The Wall) should be included with an extended list in the discography site. Pompeii and The Wall are two of the major Pink Floyd pieces. I consider them both to be more important pieces of works than the soundtrack albums that is on the main page at the moment. Coq Rouge 13:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok, I agree, let's include Pompeii & The Wall. You dislike that More and OBC are here? I strongly disagree with that, they are full albums, most of their pieces had their own life in live performances before the soundtrack-albums were released. I've never watched those films, but it is reported that their soundtracks are slighly different from the 2 LP. Zabriskie Point's tracks are commissioned works.--Dr. Who 13:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not dislike the fact that More and OBC are there, but I consider Pompeii and The Wall to be as important in the history of Pink Floyd. The other videos are not essential and should just be in the discography, but Pompeii and The Wall are essential. I'll dig up my previous added DVD list and add it if noone beat me to it. Coq Rouge 14:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: If someone should remove, please re-add again. We have reached "consensus" here (3 editors). Add (see discussion) to the edit summary.--Dr. Who 14:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Another user has added "La Carrera Panamericana". It's ok, i believe, let's do not remove it.Dr. Who 16:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD and Video 

message: Could we consider removing the rather aimless Pink floyd asteroid from the info box. Surely its not really related to pink floyd in any way, and is just an excuse to put something else in that box. A type of flower is named after the band too - is that going to be put in as well? Putting in support artists in the info box would to me make more sense than putting in an asteroid or even a flower for that matter. Does anyone agree with me? Ummagumma23 14th February 2007.
:Infoboxes are overabused. In this case imho the asteroid and the flower must be mentioned elsewhere, maybe in the trivia article only. --Dr. Who 16:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Btw, I can't see any asteroid here. Some clues about this?--Dr. Who 22:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The asterios is "19367 Pink Floyd", and I agree that it be moved to the trivia section. I also would propose the moving of "Publius Enigma" and "Dark Side of the Rainbow" be moved to the trivia section, and the Live 8 link be deleted from the infobox completely, as it's not exactly intimately related to Pink Floyd.ErleGrey 23:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok, later I will create a page within WP:Pink Floyd listing every article relevant to the PF "world". Anw, such talks belong to their most appropriate page .--
Dr. Who 12:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pink Floyd asteroid 

message: Roger Waters did not attend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame introduction in 1996. So please, do not change this. He did attend by satelite in 2006, but not in 1996. Coq Rouge 10:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 1996 

message: It appears highly unlikely that Pink Floyd will play Live Earth this summer.  Also, Pink Floyd did not reform for a tribute concert to Syd Barrett, as was rumoured.  I don't feel that an official split announcement will ever occur, and the band does not appear to show any interest in reuniting for one off gigs for a good cause, something that seemed very likely after Live 8. If the band does not reform this year for their 40th anniversary as a professional group, I feel that it is safe to remove the indifenite hiatus tag and declare them officialy "over".  Thoughts? - Tkd73 24:41 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, i think we can safely say that the band is pretty much over. I think there is prehaps still hope amongst the PF editing community that a reunion could happen. I think we should remove the indifenite hiatus tag soon, but not quite yet - Ummagumma23 09:15 12 April 2007 (UTC).
::Until there's an official announcement I don't think it would be appropriate to change the status. This is not to say I'm holding out any hope, as I too strongly doubt it will ever happen, just what I think is appropriate for Wikipedia. PurplePlatypus 03:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this. Until they are formally disbanded they are still a band. Coq Rouge 10:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Future of Pink Floyd 

message: Just spotted this clip on Youtube of Pink Floyd on the BBC's program Tomorrow's World in January 1968. It was an item about a light machine - very interesting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7EprSVVMzo --Brian Fenton 10:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pink Floyd on Tomorrow's World January 1968! 

message: Where the hell did they all go? Copyright paranoia sucks. dharmabum 08:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes we had to remove them some time ago i believe - Ummagumma23 21:15 23 May 2007 (UTC).
Maybe someone should ask permission, maybe through e-mail... post the confirmation sent back in Wikimedia Commons, then place a link on the page. Just to please the copyright paranoids? --Gabriel Texidor 03:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Album images?

message: I havejust addedthedate/location of Barretts lastlive appearance with floyd inthe section on his decline. Ihave a ref source (online) for the info at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PFArchives/tourdate.htm#1968
butI dont have a clue how to addreferences. If someone could add theref for me.
The info also featured in the BBC2 documentary Seven Ages Of Rock.
Dondilly 02:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Barretts Last Floyd Concert

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thread_title:  References 

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message: Notes 55, 60 and 62 are blank. Could somebody please fill them up? This is supposed to be a featured article. Tommy Stardust 16:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I've restored two external links. The existing "list of links" site appears to be indiscriminate and this not particularly helpful to users. The sites I've added are about the best there are for news of Pink Floyd; one belongs to Vernon Fitch, the guy credited by Nick Mason for assisting with his book; it also has a list of other Pink Floyd sites, so if only one such list is required, is the one which should be kept. Andy Mabbett 20:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

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message: The man died 38 years after he left, how could it be "the late?" Zazaban 01:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he left the band due to mental illness. He died on July 7, 2006. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 00:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "The man died 38 years after he left" is what you said. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 22:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "the late" Syd Barrett 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Pigs (Three Different Ones).ogg

message: I was going to add an external links, but didn't dare because of the warning... I understand it has been discussed before, so I'll just suggest the link here, and others can decide whether it is worth it or not.
The link on my mind is:
...which is not a fan site, but a music site (streaming radio) where you can listen to their music. Sverre 18:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: If there's anyone out there who still gives a shit about this article's FA status, the biggest thing in the FAC at the time was the lack of audio clips. So I spent several hours of time I will never get back creating and uploading clips that, as far as I and the people on the FAC knew, were fair use.
Now some cocksucking bot is tagging every fucking sound file I uploaded for deletion in the next few days. I don't care enough to bother answering their obscure lawyerese specific demands and think this whole project is in the shitter, but expect this article to lose FA status if someone doesn't deal with this shit. dharmabum 07:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tagging media (e.g. album covers, audio clips) as fair use requires that a rationale be provided as to why it's being claimed as such. This is a requirement of fair use -- if one is not provided, it's not fair use. Wikipedia has been somewhat lax in the past of enforcing that rationale be provided; now someone has decided to step up that enforcement to the full intent of the legal mumbo-jumbo. While I generally agree with the bot doing this, I do have issues with the approach the bot owner has decided to take, but I have already stated as such on the owner's talk page. Getting back to the issue at hand, someone needs to add rationale to the audio clips or they will be deleted as allowed by the deletion policy on fair use images. While I can understand your frustration with your time being wasted if the clips are deleted, copyright is being taken much more seriously than ever before so if one wants to upload files and tag them as fair use, they MUST be prepared to justify their claim. Simply adding the fair use tag is not enough. The question is, are audio clips justifiable in the band article itself or only on the song articles themselves (if they exist)? I draw a parallel to album covers being used in discography only or list articles versus the album articles. RedWolf 19:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio clips. 

message: I saw this AFD saying that Pink Floyd trivia was kept. But, it redirects to the Pink Floyd article now. Can anyone tell me what happened? Thanks. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 15:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pink Floyd trivia (2nd nomination). Andy Mabbett 18:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Why delete it? Andy Mabbett 13:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What Happened to Pink Floyd trivia?

message: :Image:One of These Days.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot 00:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:One of These Days.ogg

message: :Image:On the Turning Away.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:On the Turning Away.ogg

message: :Image:Sysyphus Part II.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sysyphus Part II.ogg

message: :Image:Us and Them.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Us and Them.ogg

message: :Image:Wearing the Inside Out.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wearing the Inside Out.ogg

message: Just because they have never announced that they were splitting up, doesen't mean that they are currently active. They aren't active anymore and this should be noted in the table. TomGreen 22:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See the previous discussion: Can we really say Pink Floyd is still active? Coq Rouge 13:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years Active 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Time.ogg