Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 58

message: It's been suggested that I post here.  I've opened a preliminary discussion in userspace about developing a consistent approach to cultural references lists.  The featured list Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc is a proposed model for other core biographies.  Preliminary discussion has begun at my userspace with User:Durova/Cultural depictions of core biography figures.  Welcoming comments and participation. Durova 20:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural depictions in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Core biographies|core biographies]] 

message: Someone just moved Wal-Mart to Wal★Mart. (It's been reverted.) Now, a while ago a section was added to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) concerning this, however it's only been loosely followed. Other contentious pages include I Love New York/I ♥ NY, I ♥ Huckabees/I Heart Huckabees, We ♥ Katamari, I♥.... – flamurai (t) 02:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: These symbols are just marketing cruft. The common usage does not include a star, and for the others the common usage is the word "Heart" or "Love", which the proper name for Wikipedia. —Centrx→talk • 03:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thing is, we need consensus to stop people from reverting. – flamurai (t) 06:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would never allow non-standard symbols like hearts or stars (as in I ♥ NY or I ♥ Huckabees) in a title or standard usage. In cases like these, the non-standard symbols should be replaced by the proper (or most commonly used) spoken equivalent, such as "I Love New York" or "I Heart Huckabees." If a trademark has a symbol replacing standard punctuation (such as Wal★Mart or Macy*s, then the standard punctuation should be used instead (Wal-Mart or Macy's). I would, however, allow ampersands in AT&T and similar terms. BJ Nemeth 19:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 19:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Concur. - PhilipR 03:18, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Concur, and note that Wal-Mart uses a hyphen, not a star, on its logo on its stores in Canada. This may be the case with all its stores outside the United States. Indefatigable 04:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need a consensus on Unicode symbols 

message: Currently, the Manual of Style has a section called "Headings" and another called "Sections" (which just contains 3 links).  Does anyone object to me moving the links into the "Headings" section, and renaming the merged section as "Section headings"?   This would keep related information together, and I think it would be more obvious what sort of headings are being discussed.  JonH 16:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea to merge, and especially to put both words there, so searchers can find it regardless of which word they are searching for. You might consider calling it "Sections and headers". You might consider having a subsection therein called "Sections" and a subsection called "Headers". But I see there is very little discussion of Sections, it's almost all about the Header line. TH 16:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Now called "Sections and headings" as suggested. JonH 16:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of sections on Headings and Sections 

message: There's a thread at Template talk:Navigation bar about the usability of this recently created template.  I suspect at least some of the folks watching this page might have an opinion on this topic.  Please comment there.  Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is a scrollable navigation bar a reasonable idea?