Talk:Flow (video game)

message: On the ps3 version multiplayer is possible. not sure the amount of players possible but i played 2-player with my buddy just now. david what! (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer 

message: Agreed. Both sections are one and the same, and judging by the game screenshot, it's supposed to be an O, not a zero. Lovok 15:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: This is in response to the request on the VG assessment page.  I have rated this article as Start-class, Low-importance, and have a few suggestions for improving it to B-class or higher.
This article desperately needs a review section, now that the game is out.  So...add one!  The list of PS3 playable creatures is too long as well (and lists are a bad idea in an article in general), so try to convert it to a prose paragraph.  I know there's not much, if you'll pardon the pun, "depth" to the gameplay, but try to describe the differences between the flash and PS3 versions a bit more (unless there aren't any more, I don't have a PS3, just played the flash).  Finally, and the review section will help with this, get more references.  The 2 you have for release dates are good, but you need more.  If you change things and feel like the article deserves a higher rating, just renominate it! --PresN 05:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: How long does it take to finish the game?
Drnoitall.hello 07:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How can this be called a game?  It's a gimmick most people pay for, play once, then never go back to again.  Looks pretty but where is the "play"?! -- 62.25.106.209 16:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Completion 

message: There has been a new creature added in a downloadable pack for the PS3. The article needs to be updated to include this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.167.217 (talk) 02:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downloadable Add-on 

message: Tjis game reminds me a lot of Electroplankton. Like with the little stylized micro-organisms, and the background. Think it's possible that they were inspired by Electroplankton?Emma Hordika (talk) 21:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electroplankton 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support per nomination and because the current title could be mistaken for f1Ow, fl0w or various other permutations. —  AjaxSmack  16:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: "The PS3 version of Flow has several added features, the most obvious being that there are six creatures to play as, all with different abilities. In addition, the player can also eat power-ups which will cause their creature to move faster, and have a bigger mouth to eat more organisms with."
No, the power-up which gives your organism a larger (and temporarily insatiable) mouth is also in the online version.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.7.163 (talk) 14:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error: powerup not only in PS3 version 

message: Oh, it was changed back.
FUCK YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! 24.119.179.192 (talk) 07:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as much as I'd call it flOw outside of Wikipedia, I have to agree with the others with the move. If it's more like a combination of two words however, I'd agree otherwise instead. And umm, be civil :). -- クラウド６６８ 14:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: FlOw/Flow

message: Shouldn't the entry highlight that this is only a clone of the famous game of "snake"? The adjusting difficulty is a nice addon, but the gameplay is just snake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.227.73.10 (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, technically you can highlight that this is a clone of Snake, provided that you find a couple of reliable sources that says so. Even then though, you can't say the game is a clone, but that various websites stated that it's a clone. -- クラウド６６８ 20:54, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Snake

message: What is the criteria by which I could remove the [citation needed] tag in the Gameplay section?  I just played the game to the end with the Jellyfish, and experienced the bug described.  I think it's fairly clear that there is a bug: does that mean I can remove the tag, or is that original research? :-/
-Bence Joful
64.114.135.26 (talk) 07:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't really like how a bug/glitch/whatever is specifically mentioned, but it's original research, and either the sentence should be completely removed (as per what Jimbo said), or that tag should stay. -- クラウド６６８ 07:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation still needed? 

message: This is a flash game and as such probably should not be in the Windows games category. I'm going to remove it. 2fort5r (talk) 16:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Windows

message: TeX is named as such because it the way that ordinary people pronounce it. CamelCase is also used on the PlayStation 3 article. Common names are used in cases where everyone uses the common name. How often do you hear people talk about "Canis lupus familiaris" in ordinary conversation? I whole heartedly agree that the article flOw should receive no special treatment in naming, that is, it should be indeed titled flOw. Just because it's small doesn't mean it isn't subject to the laws of social norms. Calling it "Flow (video game)" merely adds to the confusion. Under no circumstances would anyone else mutilate a title in this fasion. Rbpolsen♦☺♦ 04:59, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes sense to use CamelCase for trademarks like PlayStation as it effects how the word is spoken: Play Station. The capitalisation in flOw is not pronounced but is simply born out of the game's logo. Using CamelCase here would not assist the reader, in fact I think it could confuse them - maybe thinking it's "Flooooow" for example. Chimpanzee - User | Talk | Contribs 07:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To that I would say that first of all, even if your argument was correct in the sense of name-spacing, The article would be titled "Playstation" instead of "PlayStation", in spite of the fact that other mediums have ignored the CamelCase. The other thing is is that in the case of the article being called "flOw", I'm sure that somewhere within the beginning of the article, the pronunciation would be mentioned (eg: "pronounced like the English word: "flow""). If that weren't the case, I'd add it myself. To my mind, the current title is far more confusing than any confusion generated by CamelCase being used. Not only that, it has upset most of the flOw fans (myself included) who use Wikipedia. Rbpolsen♦☺♦ 04:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, I'm just a super noob. It's wholly possible to make the article titled flOw, and seeing as EBay is titled that way, why not.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take that as an excuse to move the page. Rbpolsen♦☺♦ 23:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's good practice. Well done. Chimpanzee - User | Talk | Contribs 07:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

text: It is covered by the manual of style. MOS:TM states " choose the style that most closely resembles standard English, regardless of the preference of the trademark owner." and "Trademarks in CamelCase are a judgment call. CamelCase may be used where it reflects general usage and makes the trademark more readable" In my opinion having the article title as flOw fails both of these guidelines. - X201 (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, so I moved it back again. Fatsamsgrandslam (talk) 17:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

text: thatgamecompany being all lower case also contrdicts MOS:TM - X201 (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

text: As you can see, I've been through all this in the past on both Flow and TGC articles but some people seem adamant that they should stay the way they were. The passage X201 quoted seems pretty clear-cut though. I think that may have been clarified in the guidelines since last year. Hopefully there won't be any further disagreements. Chimpanzee - User | Talk | Contribs 19:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The MOS are mere guidelines, not policy, and should not be interpreted to mean as such. There are more important things to consider, like WP:NOR and WP:IRS. We should refer to how it is referred to in literature, and if it is not official, then "Flow" as is is simply made-up and constitutes original research, without a single reliable source to back it up as an alternate valid spelling. To refer it as "Flow" is made up by Wikipedia and constitutes  nothing more than original research. For certain names, the "regular" alternate has appeared in broad usage in reliable sources, so it would be no problem to choose them, but in this case, I have not found a single one that referred to it as "Flow." For this reason, it does not make sense per NOR and IRS to refer to it as such.--A (talk) 10:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: MoS overrides RS on many different issues, undue trademark attention and readability being one of them. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:51, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps one thing that was ignored regarding MOS was the sentence regarding recognizability. According to the MOS for Article titles, titles should provide recognizability. I only knew about this game about one day ago, and searched for it on Wikipedia, and did not know that it was talking about this game until after I looked at the summary beneath it. If titles are to provide recognizability, then this title clearly fails to do it, since I did not know that it was talking about "FlOw" until much later than looking at the title.--A (talk) 07:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You searched for "flOw" and that redirects here, so I don't see what's so confusing. Other search engines don't even respect capitals. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Very simple: I searched for the game through Google, and when I saw the Wikipedia result, I thought, "is that the game FlOw or is that another game? It doesn't seem to be it since it is 'Flow' while all other results were 'FlOw' or 'flOw.'" If such initial questions result, that is when it is clearly confusing.--A (talk) 02:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I have no problem with the fact that the first letter should be capitalized, but for the third letter to be lower case severely impedes the recognizability of the title.--A (talk) 23:15, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: I've added a description of the relevance for this link, as a game with a similar "worm-like creature navigating landscape in 360º angles, eating smaller creatures and fleeing from enemies" gameplay. See also sections don't need a direct relation, they're intended to provide readers with further reading of a tangentially related topic that may be of interest, in this case because of the games similarity. Diego (talk) 08:27, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also "Fat Worm Blows a Sparky" 

message: I downloaded the "official version" yesterday and played through twice, and it did restart with the jellyfish character but did not start over again with the worm character. Perhaps the difference is in the online version on the website vs the downloaded version? As far as I could tell they were (otherwise) identical. Anyway, three things about the tag. 
* Given that our experiences differ, i.e. there isn't consensus on what the "source" (the game itself) says, does that itself create the need for a CN tag? 
* Is it appropriate to cite the game itself as a source? I have a hard time seeing that flying with a more complex computer game. Earlier in this talk page someone's gameplay observations are described as "original research" and I think that's accurate whether the game is large like WoW or small like Flow.
* "Implicit" sourcing isn't ideal. If we are going to source the claim to the game itself, can we explicitly cite the game as the source? Otherwise the information appears to readers as though it's unsourced.
What do you think? Tripleahg (talk) 22:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, it's been a long time since I've played this. The "implicit cite to the game" is usually used for plot, not gameplay, which is what I was thinking of (this is about as much "plot" as the game has). That said- so you beat it as the jellyfish, and it didn't start over as the worm? When you got to the bottom, the creature wasn't the worm you had in the first run? I'm fine with cutting out the last bit (starting with "and defeating it"), but the fact that there's a new game+ of sorts seems like information that should stay- I guess we need to start looking for sources for it. An explicit source to the game is one option, though not the preferred one. --PresN 23:13, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I beat it as the worm, which restarted the game with the jellyfish. I beat it as the jellyfish (defeating the creatures at each level including the big worm at the bottom level) and nothing happened, it didn't restart again with the worm character. Tripleahg (talk) 23:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  End of gameplay CN tag 

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message: Santa Monica Studio participated in the development of the games, shouldn't it be added alongside thatgamecompany and supervillainsstudios ?
Source : http://sms.dev.realpie.com/flow/
In addition, when we launch the game the name of the 3 studios appears!
Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pRBptP3i1Q  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragounis (talk • contribs) 17:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Santa Monica Studio