Talk:History of Eritrea

message: Early History really should be expanded. Right now it's less than 1/3 of the entire article, when the span of time covered is 20-30 times longer. For this reason I have added the  template.
Yom 06:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Early History

message: I made a couple changes including removing POV and correcting some false information. The Adal sultanate never stretched as far north as the Eritrean coastline. It wasn't until its fall, actually, in the mid-late 16th century, that the Afar Sultanate/Awsa Sultanate was founded in eastern Ethiopia, and came to dominate the Afar coastline in what is now Eritrea. Moreover, Aksum did not disintegrate into many kingdoms. Rulers remembered as Aksumite ruled as late as the first half of the 12th century (see Knud Tage Anderson's "The Queen of the Habasha in Ethiopian history, tradition and chronology"), and the Zagwe was not just a political, but also a cultural direct continuation of Aksum (see Tekeste Negash's "The Zagwe period re-interpreted: post-Aksumite Ethiopian urban culture," and David W. Phillipson's work on the Lalibela Churches, which shows that they were built over a long period from the 9-10th centuries up to King Lalibela's time, some of which began as Aksumite fortresses.). Moreover, I corrected some info on the naming of the region. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 21:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is medieval in the context of Eritrean history? The term medieval, at least as far as it is defined in wikipedia is as a term related to European History. Should this heading be corrected? Merhawie (talk) 04:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Medieval history

message: Reading the article, it is very hard to get an understanding of Eritrea's history. There seems to be a conflation of the modern state with the history of past states that happened to occupy the same territory, a regrettable feature of much modern nationalist history. What I wanted was an understanding of when "Eritrea" actually became a coherent or distinctive entity. From the article, it appears that Eritrea meant nothing until it was created by the Italians in the modern era. Before that, "Eritrean history" appears to be nothing more than a concatenation of the histories of states that were in the general area. That is, a reading back into history of the modern state. It would be useful if the situation could be outlined a bit more coherently. From what the article seems to be saying, it should begin with the straightforward statement that 'Eritrea is a state created by the Italians in the colonial era. The area occupied by modern Eritrea was since ancient times......' This would relieve the reader of the need to try and figure out whether the ancient states mentioned are lineal ancestors of the modern state, or merely states that happened to cover part of the soil of the modern country.
211.31.251.226 (talk) 10:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The took the exact same borders of Medri Bahri and renamed it Eritrea, that fact is often suppressed. Medri Bahri was a separate entity and there is plenty of material on it and the history of What we now know as Eritrea. 2A02:C7C:36FF:3600:4550:EFE1:F5BB:5170 (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eritrea? 

message: In the final sentence under the section titled Prehistory the term "discovered" is italicized.  Is this meant to suggest that the discovery was a fraud or manufactured or to say that there were special circumstances related to the event?  I'm curious because it seems unclear as to why this particular word would be formatted this way. Without any explanation, should this not be cleaned-up to avoid any further questions similar to mine? Xerobane 16:43, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prehistory 

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message: First off, this label of "North Korea of Africa"...can anyone provide a Legitimate and Official designation of this label? Because all I can find are articles that were Heavily Biased against Eritrea. Authorityofwiki (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative Bias Against Eritrea in this Article 

message: 1) The present day Eritrea was part of Ethiopia since the Italians,in the 19th century, landed at the shore of the Red Sea and gradually expanded to eventually carve out this region from the rest of Ethiopia. This land has been known as Bahre Negash and it has been administered from the kings in Ethiopia
2) the land of Eritrea existed in the expanse of the Aksumite Empire. However, the heart of the Empire was in North Ethiopia which is presently known as the Tigray region. This article has exaggerated and misrepresented the role of Eritrea during the Aksumite period. 
3) It also looks that this article is politically tainted. I see the hands of those living in the present day Eritrea who want to craft a glorious part for their newly founded independent nation.
4) The Series on the Ethiopian history should be the place where all these Aksum-related discussions should emphasize because Ethiopia is the base the the root of the Aksumite empire  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.105.5 (talk) 13:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Medri Bahri was a separate entity with its own political process which was later controlled by Ethiopia to state it was always part of Ethiopia is false and historically inaccurate 2A02:C7C:36FF:3600:4550:EFE1:F5BB:5170 (talk) 22:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A very Inaccurate article that should be corrected in its entirety.  

message: It seems that the author wants to obscure the fact that, before Italians, the land was under the crown of the Ethiopian Empire. The Italians managed to encroach the area from the shores of the red sea because the seat of the empire was moved southwards to Addis Ababa. That made it logistically to liberate that land which was occupied by the Italians. The Italians moved southwards to increase the size of their new colony. That time they were defeated at the battle of Adwa. However, the Ethiopian emperor of the time failed to get rid them off the northern region. The Italians then christened their new colony as Eritrea and stayed there for 50 years. For me, this article is politically tainted perhaps with the desire of conjuring a glorious past for the newly independent country Eritrea.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.105.5 (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No that is revionist the state of Medri Bahri was an Eritrean kingdom with its own political process. Constantly at war with is neighbours until the takeover trying to suppress that history does not work 2A02:C7C:36FF:3600:4550:EFE1:F5BB:5170 (talk) 22:57, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Effort to Conjure a Glorious Past for a New Country in Africa 

message: Here's what seems to be a good academic reference that covers key periods of Eritrean history since the 17th century, and distinguishes what the author sees as well-established facts and the 'standard Ethiopianist' versus the 'Eritrean revisionist' interpretations and views of the history: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17531050701452523 , Richard Reid 2007 Journal of Eastern African Studies,  (open access). In other words, the author claims that the overview is NPOVed. A proper use of this source may help deal with some of the NPOV concerns mentioned above on this talk page. Boud (talk) 23:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard Ethiopianist vs Eritrean revisionist views: Journal of Eastern African Studies