Talk:Willamette Meteorite

message: "No impact crater has been found— it is probably in Canada." This does beg the question: How did it get to Oregon from Canada, and where in Canada did it come from? Was it transported from Canada by some unknown person, or did it get there over a long period of time through geological processes? --Craig (t|c) 21:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, good question. I'm sure it's because of glaciation, but of course that needs to be explained in the article. Katr67 22:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I would imagine so too, considering it apparently took 90 days to move it a mere 1200 metres. But besides a lack of information about its origins, there's the facts that Canada is no small plot of land (where in Canada?), and also didn't exist when the meteorite fell, both of which make the statement a little bizarre, out of place and probably unnecessary. I think that since nobody knows where the impact crater is (Canada, Washington State, or Australia for that matter) the statement should just be removed. There's probably a Wikipedia policy on speculation, but I'm too lazy to go looking for it. So I'll remove it when I'm next passing through if there are no objections before then. --Craig (t|c) 10:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me, but I bet there is more info in one of the external links. Perhaps we can add a section on "Origin" and cite some sources. The statement should definitely be taken out of the intro though. Katr67 15:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, one of the earliest versions of the article explains the bit about glaciers. Katr67 15:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I finally updated it and removed the verification tag. Still seems a little out of place, and is still in the introduction (lacking enough information for the new section), but I think it's a little less emphatic now. Thanks! --Craig (t|c) 23:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have sources, but the reasons for it having arrived within a few thousand years by glacial movement are numerous.  It was found on the surface, so it either wasn't buried by the most recent glacier's deposits or was unearthed recently by erosion.  It should have arrived with one of the glaciations during the last few million years, and all those are considered recent glaciations.  The northern part of the continent has had a shape and orientation similar to the current one during those glaciations, so the object did not recently land on another continent and move here.  The description of the chemical erosion to the surface also implies that the object wouldn't have lasted for hundreds of millions of years on the surface of Oregon.  So it was in a different environment and was moved recently to Oregon.  No identificable crater also indicates it didn't land in Oregon.  Something that large should have left a mark, which implies erosion and glaciation destroyed the crater or something more peculiar (I don't know the effects of impact on a glacier).  We don't have answers to the oddities, but many of them imply the object did not land in Oregon and arrived on Oregon's surface recently.    (SEWilco 02:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From Canada?

message: Even bleeding heart NPR's coverage of the claim of insensitivity by the Clackamas seemed dismissive. Like the CNN article they asked the white people what they thought of the claim and they didn't know what to say, but it seems nobody has actually talked to a member of the tribe. It would be good to find some other sources about what the Clackamas have to say. Katr67 23:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mainstream news on the Clackamas claim 

message: *OREGON'S CELESTIAL VISITOR TAKES FURTHER JOURNEYS, The Oregonian, May 30, 1999, Author: JOHN TERRY Aboutmovies (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source 

message: The revised location of the meteorite doesn't jive with two facts:  the marker in West Linn (at ) says it was found about 2 miles NW of this place (see photo in article).  I calculated this to be  which jives well with my memory of a grade school field trip to the site.  The location  is given by the new cite, but that disagrees with both my memory and the plaque.  Personally I think the plaque is correct and mindat.org has some systematic error somehow.  Click on the "Map all coordinates" at right to see these three points.  Given that the wrong point is on the east side of the Willamette River, I really think some mistake has been propagated over time.  —EncMstr (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  location 

message: I see that the claim of a Canadian origin is sourced.  But I have serious doubts about the W.M. coming from Canada due to the small problem that Oregon did not see continental ice sheets from Canada in the ice age. The Corilleran lobe only reached just south of Olympia and all glaciation in Oregon was from alpine glaciation coming west from the Cascades.  Are there any references to Canada besides the NY times article?--Kevmin (talk) 11:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some digging and have expanded on the Canada claim using the abstract of the original talk where the idea was proposed.  The key was that the W.M. "may" have been ice rafted to the Willamette Valley during the Missoula Floods.--Kevmin (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian origin 

message: The section about weight should be titled "mass". Kg and tons are units of mass, not weight. Units for weight are units of force which Kg and tons are not. GS3 (talk) 18:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mass, not weight 

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message: This 1st paragraph in the Modern history section is contradictory: 
"Although already known and sacred to Native Americans, its "discovery" was made by settler Ellis Hughes in 1902." 
Instead of using the vague word discovery in quotes, i would specify what specifically did that person add to the knowledge of the meteorite, or remove the second part of the sentence altogether. 
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thread_title: "Discovery"

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message: I made a page of this on reddit and someone replied that the translation was wrong. Here is what they said:
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thread_title:  Bad translation of Tomanowos