Talk:Lists of Marvel Comics characters

message: * (From below) Merge The Sandman and Sandman (comics) in some meaningful way.
::These should be merged to either The Sandman or The Sandman (comics).  Especially in the wake of the Neil Gaiman series, using the definite article here is absolutely the right thing to do, since it's in the title of the comic, just as we have The Avengers (comics).
::I also still feel that many individual characters should have the definite article in their page titles, and even more so that we should not be editing text of other pages to remove definite articles from sentences, since as I mentioned earlier text pieces referring to those characters generally use the definite article even today.  It just seems wrong to refer to "Scarlet Witch" when everyone who isn't themselves personally speaking to The Scarlet Witch would refer to her with the definite article. -mhr 21:12, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I added this as a discussion topic at Wikipedia:Village pump, since I don't see the three of us participating in this debate as forming a consensus anytime soon, and Wikipedia doesn't seem to have an established standard for this issue. -mhr 21:43, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Topics currently under discussion

message: Simple enough question - why are there two lists of characters? Dr Archeville 21:27, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Two Lists? 

message: Wouldn't it be a useful resource to know the number of characters? --Jamdav86 18:00, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number 

message: A Professor Y was just added under Professor X. Is there actually a Professor Y, or are we dealing with a cheeky vandal here? Ragdoll 20:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professor Y? 

message: Should characters from Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects be included on this list?  To my knoweldge they've never been in any Marvel Comics comic, just the video game. Dr Archeville 19:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Video game characters?

message: As far as I know, Arsenal (formerly Speedy) is a DC comics character, and as one, he should not be put in the "List of Marvel Comics characters". Instead, he should be included in the "List of DC Comics characters", where he already exists. therefore, he should be excluded from the Marvel list seeing that he is not a Marvel comics character.
: Is there a Marvel Comics character called Arsenal?  It'd not be the first time both companies had characters with identical names. Dr Archeville 12:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is Arsenal doing under Marvels characters list? 

message: what happened to the known relative's list on the character pages i found kang the conqueror's family tree quite amusing?
*I noticed the same with Baron Zemo. I thought it was just on his page. Has a template been altered? Mallanox 09:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  what happened to the known relative's lists? 

message: Just to let you know i added Araki (comics) to the list after writing the article because he was missing from wikipedia and the list :-) (Neostinker 20:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Araki

message: Some of you might have notice that I have been rewriting the power summaries on pretty much all the characters. While I believe that I have done a good job recent Wikipedia comic rules have come to light for me (Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Superherobox example). Realizing this I know now that I have not done the summaries right.
Now I have gone through and reedited the summaries and made many "actual" summaries. But my one man crusade for change has drained me. My goal was to make all of the character pages as uniform as possible. Now realizing that I will need to go through them all agian is too much for just me.
Now I ask respectfully, becuase Im almost possitive that my edit wern't liked by at least a few, for help with this. Although its only a little bit of the page Ive seen that it can make it look alot better. Any help will be appreciated. I dont expect much, just a few people will be enough. Thefro552 00:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help wanted 

message: ===Removing redlinks===
Hi. There used to be a template saying an article had too many redlinks, but that went out of use after a policy change. Unless there's a specific compelling reason stated in the edit summary or on the talk page, policy is not to remove most redlinks. Please discuss with the rest of the Comics Project before proceeding. Thanks. --Tenebrae 03:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CC of post at [[User:Thefro552|Thefro552]]

message: Hi. There used to be a template saying an article had too many redlinks, but that went out of use after a policy change. Unless there's a specific compelling reason stated in the edit summary or on the talk page, policy is not to remove most redlinks. Please discuss with the rest of the Comics Project before proceeding. Thanks. --Tenebrae 03:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing redlinks

message: The list has been split alphabetically, similar to List of DC Comics characters (and subsequent pages), per (among other things) WP:SS and WP:AS. This should also help make the pages easier to read and edit. - jc37 09:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: All of the mutants in Marvel Comics are also Marvel Comics characters, therefore the List of mutants in Marvel Comics is entirely duplicated on the List of Marvel Comics characters, with the addition of the non-mutant characters. It would make more sense to simply note on List of Marvel Comics characters which characters are mutants and have List of mutants in Marvel Comics redirect here. Neelix (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[List of mutants in Marvel Comics]] 

message: Okay, I've had a look through the lists for this article, and I'm going to admit it is leaving me more than a little confused in some cases. Can I suggest that, instead of having subsections interspersed between list items, we either have everything written into the list, or separate everything into subsections of articles themselves? --JB Adder | Talk 02:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  List organisation 

message: We should probably discuss this removal/replacement of content.
I believe these lists have been extremely bloated with truly insignificant characters. The original intent was not to catalogue every Marvel character - it was to provide a central location for basic information on characters who weren't independently notable but were linked inline from numerous other articles. I didn't review all the entries Name^5 removed, but what I did review warranted a barnstar for the effort. 
Because of the extent of the bloat, individual discussions about each entry is impractical. I make two suggestions going forward: 
# That Name^5 continue to identify the removed entries by name in the edit summary.
# That Name^5 remove only one/two entry at a time to make restoration easier.
If any specific character removal is contested, it can be reverted and discussed on its own merits. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:19, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well , what  did with some of the entries left the redirects without a section to redirect to. Either those sections get restored, their pages get restored, or those redirect parts get deleted. Anyone have any suggestions? --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:18, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what exactly my opinion counts for since I'm the one deleting the sections, but I'm in favor of deleting the redirects. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The articles were redirected because the pages weren't independently notable, so restoring isn't an option (unless they have since become notable, but those will be very rare). They could be re-targeted to a page that still contains some information on the character. Argento Surfer (talk) 17:17, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be as if we wanted to redirect them to their sections like the member sub-sections for the Death-Throws, the Savage Land Mutates, and the U-Foes. Like for Gorgeous George and the rest of the Nasty Boys for example, they would have to have subsections under the Nasty Boys page. Right? --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is another suggestion. We can revive the List of minor Marvel Comics characters page and redirect all removed entries to that page so that those who don't have redirects to the other sections that they were removed from can go there. What do you think? --Rtkat3 (talk) 14:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Rtkat3 brought me to this discussion. It seems that he already revived the List of minor Marvel Comics characters page. I don't see why that page is necessary, since we already have individual lists of Marvel Comics characters here. I am in favor of deleting the redirects if the characters are not notable enough for their own sections. Natg 19 (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I also support deleting redirects if there is no suitable target. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:21, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was able to redirect some of the members of the Morlocks, the Nasty Boys, and Circus of Crime to their group pages. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selection criteria 

message: These characters are all Marvel Comics characters, and it seems kind of redundant. There's precedent for this with the "List of mutants in Marvel Comics" page. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 21:38, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[List of Marvel Comics mutates]]