Talk:Juneau, Alaska

message: Are you sure that Juneau is the largest city in the US as far as land area?  I think Sitka, Alaska is, and its article certainly thinks so as well.   Nationalparks 21:29, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sitka City and Borough encompasses all of Baranoff Island, and is the largest incorporated area; however, the actual City of Sitka covers only a very small portion of that area. Juneau's city boundaries extend much further, to the point that I think it can be considered the largest city without being the largest incorporated area.--Lordkinbote 23:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

text: The opening paragraph states that Juneau is the second largest city in the US by area. The Geography section says it is the third largest. Which is it? --Mfwills (talk) 21:18, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Largest City???

message: Is Juneau the capital of Alaska? or isn't it?  Why isn't there anything about the state government that's located here?  Some mention of the capitol building, the state legislature, the governor's mansion... something would be notable.  On the surface, this article has the flavor of a "typical" Alaskan town than anything else.  —MicahBrwn (talk) 06:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's is, but maybe not for long... L'Aquatique[parlez] 15:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So you're saying there's a movement afoot to move the capital of Alaska to some other city?  Source?  Google came up with zippo.  The closest thing I found was something from three years ago; in response to efforts to revamp or build a new Capitol Building. (http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15936)  —MicahBrwn (talk) 07:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's already some information in the article about capitol creep, the FRANK initiative, etc. L'Aquatique[parlez] 01:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

text: There have been at least seven or eight statewide votes related to the capital move issue, the first being in 1960.  That you're in disbelief about that based solely upon a Google search is not at all surprising.  In general, the development of this article has shown little regard for WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE and is still badly in need of input from actual locals. RadioKAOS  –  Talk to me, Billy  02:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Umm,YEAH!! I grew up there from 1989-1999. And, it was always the capitol. I don't believe they will ever move the capitol. They may have tried to move the capitol, several times, but it always fails. Juneau is a perfect place for the capitol, in my opinion! Erinlovesherkids (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Capital ≠ capitol. Tuvalkin (talk) 17:25, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Capital of Alaska?

message: During the alasken gold rush,a lot of prospostors came home with small foturns.
: What's a foturn and where I can get one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.175.171 (talk) 18:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: History of this page

message: B-Class criteria says no obvious omissions.  I would call no mention of the A-J Mine (or even the Treadwell Mine) an obvious omission.  I'll see what I can do.RadioKAOS (talk) 12:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 

message: I've deleted this content: 
15.1% reported speaking Tlingit at home, 5.1% Inupiaq...
This is not supported by the reference cited.  Tlingit is an endangered language spoken by fewer than 1000 people in Alaska; the MLA shows 300+ speakers in Juneau.  Inupiaq does not register any speakers in Juneau.  
http://www.mla.org/map_data_results&state_id=2&place_id=36400&cty_id=  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.212.40 (talk) 15:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language Demographics 

message: and  currently redirect to Juneau and are being discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 August 1#Fliptown. Your comments there would be most welcome. Thryduulf (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fliptown 

message: I’m not sure but somebody changed a lot of information on the Climate Section
1) They changed Juneau To Subarctic Subarctic
2) Maximum Temp says 88 instead of 90
3) 1,400 Hours of Annual Sunshine instead of 1500
4)The Average Monthly Temperatures for many months are wrong.
5) Winters and Summers seem to list colder temperatures.
I'm not sure what else is wrong.  Please do let me know.
Are these changes correct or did somebody screw it up.
Please comment
Well nobody commented for a few days so I just reverted it back since I assumed it was Vandalism
99.104.175.147 (talk) 23:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It took me a while, after I reverted your edits, to see what you meant. I was coming back to fix it when I saw you had already done so. NameIsRon (talk) 23:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Someone Vandalize The Climate Section? 

message: I think the blurb about Juneau not being serviced by a freeway along with those other state capitols is irrelevant. The US has a history of making small towns into capitols so that's not that noteworthy. I think "it's the only state capitol not serviced by a road leading out" is much more interesting and noteworthy, not being serviced by a freeway would also be implied in that statement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.80.110 (talk) 17:01, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I question its accuracy, perhaps someone can't count? which interstate serves Honolulu? Jasen betts (talk) 06:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I'm aware, juridicially, Honolulu comprises the entire island of Oahu, just like Juneau has substantial corporate limits but a much, much smaller urban core.  I don't have a good map handy, but it appears that Interstate H-1 runs right through downtown Honolulu.  There's also Interstate H-2, Interstate H-3 and Interstate H-201 on the island.  Something that's not only perhaps interesting to readers, but also quite relevant to the topic of Juneau, is that Egan Drive at Sunny Point/Switzer Creek is the location of the only interchange for hundreds and hundreds of miles in any direction.  Since our coverage of Juneau hasn't progressed much beyond being about the parts of town the tourists see, who knows when that will ever be acknowledged. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  07:39, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Transportation

message: Was looking for something on the Empire website just now.  Someone created an article on the mayoral election about six months too early and it was deleted.  For whatever reason, no one else stepped up to recreate the article at the appropriate time.  Bottom line, from the Empire article I'm reading, Bruce Botelho is not running for reelection (or may be term-limited?).  Just in case anyone can update/correct things before I ever get around to it (which in my case, won't be until after the election's over, or who knows when, whichever comes first).RadioKAOS (talk) 22:35, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed (sooner or later) 

message: ≠Every other US State Capital in the United States is included under the cat "Category:States Capitals in the United States". Juneau should be no different. While the cat was deleted previously using Hotcat, please be careful. If we are going to have that cat, and I believe we should, then we need to list Juneau along with Austin, TX., Charleston, WV., Sacramento, CA., etc. Thanks! AlaskaMike (talk) 20:33, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  US State Capital 

message: Sorry if this is taxing the patience of some readers.  This article is currently assessed as B-Class.  B-Class criteria states "No obvious omissions", which it fails simply by claiming to be about the City and Borough of Juneau while not actually providing an accessible overview of such, in fact shoving off coverage of large parts of the municipality onto list entries in the see also section instead of integrating them into the main article body.  Much of our coverage of Alaskan communities is at the level of a POV fork about "the part of town the tourists see" and this is no exception.  The government section is a little better off than the article as a whole in terms of breadth of coverage.  Still, in the spirit of providing a more accessible overview, I feel there's more to be said.
Kent, Ohio, whose article was a WP:TFA just the other day, is also administered by a manager instead of a mayor.  The manager is listed above the mayor in the infobox of that article, plus a much clearer explanation of the difference between the two is provided in the article body than what is found here.  I suppose that making a big deal out of a ceremonial mayor (and other figureheads elsewhere) could be useful if the Martians arrive and can't find anyone to "take me to your leader", but that's about the extent of it.
While it's true the CBJ has had a ceremonial mayor for quite some time, sources suggest that it wasn't always the case.  This timeline of the Juneau Police Department states "October 5, 1961 – Following a referendum, the strong mayor/council system was returned by the voters and Lauris S. Parker won re-election as Mayor", which implies that Juneau had a strong mayor prior to 1961.  This was at roughly the same time as statehood and Juneau's ratification of a home rule charter, as well as Parker's replacement by a succession of acting mayors before returning to the office.  I could not find further information about those events here, but that document contains a footnote referring to the 1983 election where the mayor and entire assembly were elected anew, only a year into the incumbent mayor's term.  What little information I've come across regarding Bill Overstreet's tenure as mayor suggests that he served as a strong mayor.  Lacking any further information or context, these two sources suggest that Juneau had a strong mayor for decades, which makes the current situation not so easy to explain away as being par for the course.  That is, unless the objective is to continue the obsessive undue weight given to current or recent events at the expense of more contextually relevant historical events, a problem already rampant across the encyclopedia.
I forget which media outlet did cover the most recent assembly meeting, but the report I heard centered on the debate over a special mayoral election.  They mentioned that this year's regular election brought out the second-lowest turnout in the past 30 or so years.  Combine that with an incumbent mayor losing reelection by a nearly two-to-one margin to a political nobody, and it really causes one to wonder why we have articles on either Sanford or William Henry HarrisonFisk in the first place beyond validating my concern about trivial matters such as their being the mayor of a state capital.  If it weren't for my generous attitude about this sort of thing, I would have already sent both articles off to AFD a long time ago. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  17:06, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you proposing that the article be re-assessed as C-class?  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not a bad idea.  I've been boldly doing such with a lot of other articles on the basis of those articles being under-referenced for B-Class, which could also apply to this article on top of any other issues it has. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  17:19, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's "almost B-class" then I would recommending fixing the article rather than downgrading it. If it's got lots of deficiencies then downgrade it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:32, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

text: Looks like the article was assessed at B for both WP Alaska and WP Cities in 2007, back when B-Class criteria may have been different than it is today, again an issue that's hardly limited to a single article.  Article assessment obviously tends to be overlooked quite a bit and even deliberately avoided at times. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  17:30, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: You may be interested in this, from Samuel Young's book 'Alaska Days with John Muir.' This extract was written in 1879.  "Pushing across the flats at the head of the bay at high tide the next morning (for the narrow, grass-covered flat between[Pg 164] Gastineau Channel and Stevens Passage can only be crossed with canoes at flood tide), we met two old gold prospectors whom I had frequently seen at Wrangell—Joe Harris and Joe Juneau. Exchanging greetings and news, they told us they were out from Sitka on a leisurely hunting and prospecting trip. Asking us about our last camping place, Harris said to Juneau, "Suppose we camp there and try the gravel of that creek."
These men found placer gold and rock "float" at our camp and made quite a clean-up that fall, returning to Sitka with a "gold-poke" sufficiently plethoric to start a stampede to the new diggings. Both placer and quartz locations were made and a brisk "camp" was built the next summer. This town was first called Harrisburg for one of the prospectors, and afterwards Juneau for the[Pg 165] other. The great Treadwell gold quartz mine was located three miles from Juneau in 1881, and others subsequently. The territorial capital was later removed from Sitka to Juneau, and the city has grown in size and importance, until it is one of the great mining and commercial centers of the Northwest."
Slightly at odds with the founding tale in the article itself, but who knows?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:34F0:C300:21C:B3FF:FEC6:12F7 (talk) 03:00, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding legend? 

message: I graduated in 1999,from Juneau- Douglas High School,along with a couple of really talented athletes. I see that you put 'Carlos Boozer' as a notable person, which he very much was and is!!! But, what about Chad Bentz? He graduated in 1999, as well. He played baseball, and he only had one hand. He's playing on minor league teams in the United States, but he is known as an excellent pitcher. He deserves to be noted as a 'Notable person', in my opinion. That would really hurt me,if I saw Carlos Boozer's name there, and I was an excellent pitcher/baseball player,that had accomplished so much, I'd feel like I'm just far less accomplished and talented than everyone else on the list. Look him up, you'll see why he should be on that list!!! Erinlovesherkids (talk) 11:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Erinlovesherkids. Since Chad Bentz has an article of his own, he is considered notable enough to be on the list. Feel free too add him yourself! (I can do it if you like, but it's your idea, you deserve to make your first article edit.) Just look at how the other list items do it: an * in front, alphabetical order by surname, double square brackets, date of birth in brackets —  and you'll be fine. Bishonen | tålk 12:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Individual 

message: Not sure why there are two separate tables for presidential elections. One is incomplete and the data does not align with the other. Which is correct? Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:01, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidential results