Talk:Surayud Chulanont

message: Hi can someone add some references? I'm on a sprint at work and don't know how to do it properly.
   * http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/09/28/afx3053954.html
   * http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4223033.html 
Kanatcha 04:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prime Ministerial appointment references?

message: The current image used in the infobox (Surayud_Chulanont.jpg) unsourced and unlicensed.  It is most probably taken from somebody else's work.  It will be deleted within 7 days.  Either replace it with something compatable with Wikipedia's license or don't use a photo. Patiwat 08:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait image is candidate for speedy deletion 

message: The grammar and setup of this article is atrocious, and there are instances of blatant opinion.  One example of both: "Some may misunderstanding this as drawback to aricultureal, but it is not!!!"  Someone who knows more about the subject needs to fix this article badly.  The worst is 'sufficiency economy' but there are problems with the other sections of the article as well: "He like to travel for 2 or 3 days in the forest since young. He also do many activities to protect nature and is the president in an Khao-Yai Natural Park association." SLC1 05:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I wasn't criticizing the title, I have no knowledge of Thai politics or economics. Rather I was criticizing the content which is presented as a defense of the sufficiency economy, as opposed to Wikipedia's NPOV, and with poor English at that.  I apologize for any confusion. SLC1 05:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality and Cleanup

message: By early November, this fell to 55% approving and 15% disapproving [of Surayud as PM]. For comparison, a nation-wide poll in July 2006 found that 49% of respondants would have voted for Thaksin Shinawatra in the cancelled October elections.
These two numbers are not comparable. There is no way Surayud would get anything like 55 percent of the vote if he ran as a candidate in an election. The editor appears to draw the conclusion that Surayud is more popular than Thaksin was, which is ridiculous. What was the approval rating for Thaksin (or Chuan, or Anand) a month after their appointment as PM? The would make more sense as a comparison. Kauffner 15:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll numbers

message: Every Thai I've talk to about Surayud complains about the upsurge in drug use since Thaksin left. I haven't noticed anything myself, but I've talk to drug usage consulars, people who should know. There is nothing about this in the article now -- I hope we can change it. Kauffner 18:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Surge in drug use under Surayud

message: * Surayud govt's rating drops. Patiwat 17:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misc articles 

message: An editor placed the POV tag on the article.  Please give provide some concrete examples of POV. Patiwat 15:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the POV tag? 

message: There is a serious neutrality issue here and seems to come from one particular person. It is quite obvious for most Thais that the contents are one-sided and only bash Sarayud and the current government. The level of bias is so high, instead of convincing, it rather undermine the article's integrity. Most of the references are selective and put together to suit the motive. For example, the quote from Karun Chandrarangsu saying that the govn't is not doing anything only to blame others. Karun is a close relative to Srisuk Chandrarangsu whom used to sit in AOT board and being investigated for several scandles. Moreover Karun was a party-list MP candidate for Thai Rak Thai party in one of the previous election. It is questionable where Karun's position stands. A quote from someone with such close tie with the previous government is not really a credible one at all. Moreover, there are no mentions of any corruption and scandle investigations on previous government despite being one of the current government key implementation. Omala HD 18:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality Issue 

message: Very biased article.  Seems more like a smear campaign more than a Wiki article.    Yes I understand that all the quotes are referenced, but when I look at the wiki article of Thaksin who is his policatal counterpart and also would have 1000's of sourced references for human rights abuse and corruption, I find none of those within the article.   This leads me to believe that there is a concentrated campaign by a certain party to actively use Wikipedia for political agendas.   There are two possible solutions to this issue
1.  To basically delete most of this article and only include basic facts.   (yes I know all you have are sourced and thats why you should consider my 2nd option)
2.  To go through the article on Thaksin and included sourced references and a tone similar to this article that methodically goes through and accuses everything that Thaksin has ever done wrong with appropriate references of course.   I single out the Article on Thanksin  because I understand that his legal staff is very active on Wikipedia using it for their own propaganda.  And there is a good chance that the active smear campaign on this article came directly from that staff.
However I will no make any changes for at least a few days to give people time to respond.  
If there are no responses, then I will clean up this article to read like an encyclopedia article rather than a political opinion page.
If at that point, more editors (paid lawyers) come in and revert the changes with the argument that all of the points have been properly sourced, then I will goto the article on Thaksin and include similarly sourced material and wording. 
I think that is fair enough.   The point is that Wikipedia is not a place to engage in political wars.  Wwind (talk) 12:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Obvious Smear Campaign

message: There's currently a disturbance at the current Canadian prime minister's article, Stephen Harper, regarding the inclusion of the head of state in the article's infobox, and, following that, on all previous Canadian prime ministers' articles; currently the Canadian series is the only one, as far as I can tell, where the relevant head of state is not listed in the infobox.
As this article, and all those for previous Thai prime ministers, list the head of state in the infobox, I'm wondering how the decision to do so was reached, and if this practice should or should not be the same for all PMs' articles. It seems odd to me that one series of PM articles would be different to all the rest.
Opinions are welcome; needed actually. The discussion is taking place at Talk:Stephen Harper#Infobox -- include GG and monarch?. --G2bambino 15:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head of state in infobox 

message: Shouldn't the criticism section on Surayud's forest grabbing be updated? In early 2010 Surayud was forced to give up his house on top of Khao yai Thiang mountain as well as the plot of land where it stood. the Royal Forestry department came in to take care of that plot of land.  122.0.3.123 (talk) 07:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  updated info on Surayud's forest-grabbing 

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