Talk:Timeline of the Iranian Islamic revolution

message: Should we make some of the most important dates in bold, such as Khomeini returning to Tehran, referendum on the constitution? --Leroy65X 21:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: dates

message: Timeline lists:
*March 17 (27th of Esfand): Civil war in Sanandaj.[23]
*April 17 (31th of Farvardin): Civil war in Naqadeh.[25] 
*August 15(?th of Mordad): Civil war in Paveh.
Two Points: 
*who was fighting? Leftist guerillas? Local federalists?  there should be more information.
*should it be called a civil war? In English its customary to say something like "Fighting erupted in ..."  A civil war has to be really serious fighting like in USA 1861-5, Russia 1919, or Lebanon 1982-89. The Iranian government crushed seperatists and guerillas quite effectively.  --Leroy65X 00:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can say revolt or clash instead of civil war. What do you suggest?--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 03:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Either would be ok. so would  "Fighting erupted in ..." --Leroy65X 20:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Civil Wars

message: Maybe I am not familiar with the terminology of "Martyrdom" as much as I should be, but I believe that on Wikipedia there is a neutrality policy (WP:NPOV), I fail to see how if a protester is killed, he should be called a "martyr", and why they should be addressed as such on Wikipedia  --Rayis 10:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replaced it appropriately.  The Behnam 17:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martyr 

message: ===1941===
*  August September : World War II allies Britian and Russia invade Iran to secure railway to supply Russia. They depose Reza Shah who they consider too sympathetic to the Axis powers and replace him with his son Muhammad Reza Pahlavi. Mackey Iranians (1996), p.185
===1953===
*  August: Crown Prince Muhammad Reza Pahlavi attempts coup against very popular, nationalist radical prime minister Mohammed Mossadeq. Coup fails and Shah flees to Italy.  CIA and British intelligence organize "Operation Ajax" with conservative Iranians to overthrow Mossadeq. Shah returns to Iran. Mackey Iranians (1996), p.206
::I think this one can be made more neutral. --Rayis 11:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been listed as problematic since 12 April 2007. Can you give further justification for the passage as it stands being NPOV? If not, we should remove the notice.Erik.w.davis (talk) 02:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your proposal to settle down the dispution if we write more events including death of Shari'ati and Mostafa Khomeini in 1977, compilation of "Velayat Faqih" and some other events.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 03:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll post this and you add some more (death of Shari'ati and Mostafa Khomeini in 1977, compilation of "Velayat Faqih") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leroy65X (talk • contribs) 16:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed introductory dates for timeline

message: *  August: Crown Prince Muhammad Reza Pahlavi attempts coup against very popular, nationalist radical prime minister Mohammed Mossadeq. Coup fails and Shah flees to Italy.  CIA and British intelligence organize "Operation Ajax" with conservative Iranians to overthrow Mossadeq. Shah returns to Iran. Mackey Iranians (1996), p.206
::I think this one can be made more neutral. --Rayis 11:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been listed as problematic since 12 April 2007. Can you give further justification for the passage as it stands being NPOV? If not, we should remove the notice.Erik.w.davis (talk) 02:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 1953

message: *Khomeini is released from custody in April. Denounces "capitulations," i.e. the government's underhanded extending of diplomatic immunity to American military personnel, that autumn, and is then exiled in November. Does not return to Iran for 14 years.Moin Khomeini (2000), p.119-127
::I agree with your proposal to settle down the dispution if we write more events including death of Shari'ati and Mostafa Khomeini in 1977, compilation of "Velayat Faqih" and some other events.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 03:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll post this and you add some more (death of Shari'ati and Mostafa Khomeini in 1977, compilation of "Velayat Faqih") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leroy65X (talk • contribs) 16:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 1964

message: This title would be more precise and would stop the confusion with the Iranian Constitutional Revolution, which we can make a timeline for later. What do you think? Cheers, --Rayis 11:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 14:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to [[Timeline of the Iranian Islamic revolution]] 

message: I just had to go through every single of what was  claimed that is from here and much of it was false and not mentioned there. Vakilian I suggest you check next time so it would stop wasting time. Regards, --Rayis 15:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Furthermore I am going to remove fsmitha as a source because he is describing the events descriptively, but who is he? It's done by a mature student graduate  who is hardly a scholar in this field. There are books written on this revolution who are more reliable than this website, surely. --Rayis 15:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My dear friend(if it doesn't bother you that I called you a friend)  I have a problem with your edition. When you remove <ref name="islamic_revolution"> then all of the later links which refer to that page will die. Please be careful.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 04:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me. I should be more careful because you didn't make mistake.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 04:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Is "source of imitation " is a good translation for "Marja-e Taqlid"?--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 12:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it isn't, change it. --Rayis 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: In fact it has an article Marja --Rayis 12:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let Zereshk tell us his idea. --Sa.vakilian(t-c) 14:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Sure. Mushallah meske marja ziyad hast to khodeh hamin Wikipedia :) --Rayis 15:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: Because there are numerous quotation we should set criteria to prevent making a wikiquote article. 
This is my proposal:
# Just we write quotations of Mohammad Reza and Khomeini.
Feel free to add some other criteria.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 14:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please include any reasons for your criteria. I disagree with that so far, the Iranian revolution wasn't simply a fight between Shah and Khomeini, a lot of those "martys" were political students from a range of political ideologies and backgrounds from left, right or whatever. --Rayis 14:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean we should narrate quotations from them?--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 17:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: If they are important, sure, if not, no. But we don't need a "criteria" to prevent it --Rayis 18:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. But I'm sure we will reach 100kb by adding too many information and then we set criteria.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 09:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotations' criteria

message: Harney says (p60) that the Shah's famous broadcast was on 6 Nov, not 5 Nov. Kurzman and others imply the same. Taheri is not reliable (look at the Wiki article on him).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.127.123 (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast - Taheri