Talk:Kunoichi

message: This entire section is poorly written and cites no sources.  With no sources (and how reputable are the sources cited in the rest of the article?), I think this section should be deleted. 
Westerly 05:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The dictionary source is pretty reputable.  The rest, well, those are sources and seems to be verifiable(I did not try to verify them, though)  This article needs a lot of work, a lot more sources and no matter what we do, this section you are talking about probably will not stay as what it looks like now.  I'd say be bold and delete it. MythSearchertalk 07:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kunoichi Ways 

message: Would Sango, the demon slayer character from the TV Anime and Japanese Manga, InuYasha, be counted among this list?
In her fighting form, she seems much like the trickery provided of the female ninja way.
Not trying to force an idea, just food for thought..
 --- BH 11-3-07  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.255.244.126 (talk) 23:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character from InuYasha, Sango 

message: I suggest the addition of the characters Soi-Fon(spelling?) and Yoruichi.
Both of them female warriors, experts in hand-to-hand combat. Whether they practice Ninpo/Ninjutsu or not could be up for debate, since they also use a lot of esoteric techniques, most of them are related to spirit force. Iceman B (talk) 03:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide reliable sources to support the edition of look-alikes.  Bleach to my understanding uses no real world martial art techniques, and never said those two used ninjutsu. Although you can place the not real argument on other series like Naruto, which I also have not much positive comments, it specifically said they are practising ninjutsu in the series. The pop culture section is way too original research, and too much trivia data and is serving also no purpose.  The section itself should focus in showing others some popular series that could be very helpful in understanding what Kunoichi is, instead of having a long list that makes people hard to read and unwilling to read. MythSearchertalk 06:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters from Bleach(anime) 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:TenchuRFD Ayame 3.jpg

message: I think that the partial list in this should be merged with the fictional ninja list that includes mainly male ninjas.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.10.36.234 (talk) 05:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Are there any real life examples? There aren't any mentioned here. --AW (talk) 06:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone?? --AW (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mochizuki Chiyome for the Takeda was a kunoichi, in fact she was the trainer as well for all the kunoichi of the Takeda which proved to be a valuable link for information. Just sharing what I know from the wikia I belong to. Why isn't she listed in this article as she was an important Kunoichi to history  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.58.97 (talk) 20:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any real life examples? 

message: How do you pronounce this? RJFJR (talk) 18:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not good at using the proper pronunciation symbols, so I can't put this in the article...  But Japanese pronunciation is pretty straight-forward.  I'd pronounce it:  Koo No Eee Chee --Mdwyer (talk) 01:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation? 

message: See: with Japanese numbers "ku" (九) for "nine", the particle "no" (の) for "and" and "ichi" (一) for "one", literally translated to "nine and one"
The particle の (no) does not mean "and". It is the possession particle.
Sample sentence: 
ナンシのいぬ
Nancy no Inu
Nancy's Dog
The correct translation would therefore be "nine's one", which makes no sense according to this definition.
In addition, the kanji 九 is not pronounced "ku", it is pronounced "kyu", which may not seem like a big difference to western eyes, but in fact it that is the difference between く and きゅ in Japanese.
Do not add commentaries about languages that you do not know!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kneesoxx (talk • contribs) 22:44, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know what you're talking about? 能 is "ability, talent". "In addition, the kanji 九 is not pronounced "ku", it is pronounced "kyu"" - then how do you pronounce 九月? "Do not add commentaries about languages that you do not know!" - Likewise. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 13:40, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I for one have no reason to doubt that 能 means 'talent', but how does that explain the peculiar translation of の as 'and'?  Homophones abound in Japanese but I'd be shocked to learn that a conjunction and a possessive particle are homophonous in any language. —Tamfang (talk) 04:54, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  "no" is used in Mathematics to denote addition. Strictly, "ku no ichi" is how one might SAY "9 + 1", in a similar way that there are other terms to mean addition in English such as "nine plus one" or "nine and one". I can't really get you a reference for this because this is an example of how something is said differently to how it's written, but I got this information from an American Teacher who taught in Japan. If someone could find a source, all well and good, but I don't think it really makes a whole lot of difference, this is an argument over nothing.14.202.44.49 (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am removing the part of the article where popular etymology is mentioned 

message: It requires more information to be considered a real page, if needed I can find information of the Kunoichi history, given the fact one of my ancestors was one, I have an early start.
Kogmaw (talk) 13:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs a recreation... 

message: I made it better by talking about hot ninjas. 
My ancestor was a Kunoichi too, she taught me the secret ways of the nine shadowbanes throwing technique. I can also teleport and control minds and I am a furry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.33.134.171 (talk) 19:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: this page is a joke

message: While you're being unabashedly puerile, I cannot entirely dismiss you as being remiss.
In my opinion, this article is an abject superfluity--of the variety that we should give no quarter. Ghost Lourde (talk) 01:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm afraid I concur 

message: Removed the following lines for being entirely unrelated to the article.
The "くノ一" writing requires the use of one character from each Japanese character set[3] — first hiragana, then katakana, then kanji. While hiragana and kanji can exist in the same word, katakana generally cannot appear in conjunction with the others. There are exceptions to this, for example in "ゴミ箱" and "消しゴム".
122.216.30.66 (talk) 06:05, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary lines removed. 

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message: I feel like this translation is spurious and disputable. Also, the cited source is in Japanese, so I wonder if it can be the source of this translation / interpretation. kunoichi (onna) no jutsu literally just translates to 'woman's technique' or 'woman technique'. Does the cited text specifically go into the interpretation of kunoichi no jutsu? Could someone fluent in Japanese confirm this?
I wonder hether the interpretation of 'technique used by a woman' or 'technique to utilize a woman (subordinate for espionage)' is more correct. The technique to utilize a sword is called _kenjutsu_ and not _ken no jutsu_ after all. Reading the paragraph, specifically this interpretation seems to be the main point of contention between Fujita and Yoshimaru & Yamada, but the wording was quite vague.
Anyway, even if the second interpretation is correct, and it means 'technique that a general or spymaster learns for utilizing woman spies', the word 'female' sounds unnatural in the translation, and carries a misogynistic tone.
84.59.118.195 (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Technique to use a female' - bad translation?