Talk:List of reptilian humanoids/Archive 2

message: If anyone actually wants to check out some serious stuff concerning the whole 'reptilian' arena before they jump on the ol' 'that can't be true' bandwagon, then there's a video interview with Zulu shaman Credo Mutwa  - available from the Bridge Of Love Publications website. I agree with a lot of what Khranus says about 'writing off' stuff b4 checking it out - smells like fear to me.......
:I think Khranus should email Jimbo and ask to be allowed back. I also think the the pro-skeptic bias of the wikipedia can be circumvented by folks like him behaving in a particularly respectable manner so as to minimize the prejudice against them when they provide their cited verifiabile informations. Sam [Spade] 19:23, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: he became abusive in his talk page communications, and simultaneously engaged in edit wars involving some highly dubious additions regarding dolphins conducting fusion within their heads. Sam [Spade] 22:52, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  mmmmm....very interesting... 

message: Since you're so intent on having the references to Pythagoras in the article, I expect you can provide references for all of this. What were these "events relating to serpents", who reported them, and what does the Python have to do with all this? I also recommend reading the comments by Muriel Gottrop and The Anome on the archive. —No-One Jones (m) 22:26, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pythagoras

message: I guess that a great deal of the ancient references are fabricated or stretched.
Can you mark clearly what parts we are sure that some ancient people believe?
:I actually don't know much about this aspect, my knowledge is mainly in regards to Nazi mysticism concepts of Hitler riding in UFO's w reptiloids under the antartic. My objections were to mirv removing 1/2 the article before others could come up w their facts. If anyone wants references as to the whole "underground/moonbase nazi ufo's w reptiloid friends" aspect, I can cite plenty of books for that. Sam [Spade] 14:37, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but most of those books cite the same source. Anyhoo, Mirv has been doing a pretty good job maintaining this page in the wake of Khranus' edits. --Viriditas 20:40, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean the ancient part 

message: We need sources which say that the Mayans, etc. claimed to be shown how to make pyramids by reptiles. If the only source for this is conspiracy theory lit, then we need to indicate who is making these historical claims. Until then I think it's a tad bit POV (and ridiculous) to tell the pro-Reptilian interpretation of history with a straight face and without heavy amounts of qualification. --Fastfission 16:26, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I can dig up some references for some of the mythological claims. Unfortunately, the person(s) who wrote this article did not go back to the mythological/anthropological sources, but received a highly digested (and often seriously distorted or partial) version of the myths via the conspiracy literature. Decius 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV: Needs references

message: I'm surprised that the Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp is not mentioned in the article. I actually came across this "reptilian humanoid" article because I typed in "Lizard Man" in an attempt to find an article about those South Carolina swamp reports. Decius 02:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lizard Man 

message: Moved the fiction (and Gtrmp moved the game) discussion to a separate article, Reptilian humanoids in fiction. It will be a full article in itself, since they occur so often. Two advantages: this article here will be unburdened; the new fiction article will go into more detail. Decius 03:03, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Reptilian humanoids in fiction]]

message: If anybody wants these claims in the article, they should try to find a credible source for these claims: 
:"The Mayans speak of a reptilian species, referred to often as "Iguana-Men", who descended from the sky to take control of their civilization, teaching them the art of pyramid building as well as demanding human sacrifice."
---I've removed that claim from the article. A similar scenario is presented in various versions of the Book of Enoch (fallen angels rather than iguana-men, though), but I cannot trace that claim to an old Mayan source (did not find it yet in the Popol Vuh or the Chilam Balam, both old Mayan books I've been searching through). Decius 08:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Indian histories refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa", who founded civilization, creating the cannabalistic Dravidians, being the source of the Hindu caste system (based upon a Draconian caste hierarchy, apparently) and demanded human sacrifice."
Most of the myth-claims were added by that anonymous user. Decius 08:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Example of an unverified claim