Talk:Every Nation Churches & Ministries

message: Updated citation of Statement of Faith under Belief section. Thelma BowlenTalk 22:04, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

message: The article looks a bit like spaghetti. I am re-organizing and cleaning out a lot of questionable material that has no references or weak references.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by TKirby (talk • contribs) 04:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning Up The Article 

message: I am really disappointed with the quality of this article. It reads a little like the  National Enquirer. 
It seems like the group of disgruntled folks from Factnet have come over and set up shop here at Wikipedia. The article reads very much like their posts. They are trying to present all the arguments and everything they dislike or feel is wrong about Every Nation. 
"The ideal Wikipedia article is balanced, neutral and encyclopedic, containing notable, verifiable knowledge"
This article is the epitome of imbalance. It is not neutral. And I think it fails miserably at approaching encyclopedic.
They even put links to their Anti-EN site at Factnet as External Links
Because the article is so anti-Every Nation slanted, it fails to grasp the essence of the organization or help the reader understand what the organization is all about. In that, it is a disservice to its readers and Wikipedia.
But this is my perspective. At this point, I think I'd like to ask Seraphimblade if you think that this article is "balanced, neutral and encyclopedic, containing notable, verifiable knowledge"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TKirby (talk • contribs) 00:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Reads Like A Tabloid 

message: I reverted since there are many issues with the recent edits.
1. "Headquarters" -- I could not find any references to Nashville as being the headquarters for EN under their new structure. Most of their board are overseas, so I don't want to assume Nashville.
I believe that Nashville is the U.S. "Headquarters" (if you want to use that term, although I don't believe EN would use that term). But to list the U.S. main offices and not the main offices in other countries would be, in my mind, ethno-centric.
Their site does list offices in London, Pasig City (Metro Manila), and Nashville. I do think it would be okay to say it has offices on these locations.
2. Characterizing EN as an "Umbrella" organization would constitute original research.
3. Links to NAR: "However, this claim appears to be false." This is original research and disallowed by Wikipedia.
    
TKirby (talk) 23:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BlueBoy Edits 

message: The article has been riddled with unsourced content, both promotional and critical. I've removed a bit of each, but this will require more work and the attention of neutral editors. 76.248.144.216 (talk) 18:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. I've had to remove so much crap, unsourced, primary sources. Is this a wikipedia article, or a promotional blog page? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 09:48, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I pulled out a lot of the fluff, and also the rather incoherent "criticism" section that didn't even contain any criticism. Of course, that means there's not much left. A lot of the article wasn't describing how the organization operates, but rather was pushing how great some people apparently think it is. That's something we can do without. I think we do need more neutral description of the operation of the organization. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:13, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's hard to find reliable sources for articles like this. There are either sources that are connection to the organization, or rival groups that are highly critical. I'm in favor of a tiny article, with minimal content, unless some decent sources are available. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:17, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: What's the relationship with "His People" Church? I think they were started in South Africa.--197.228.59.65 (talk) 21:06, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with "His People"