Talk:Ebook/Archive 1

message: :Ebook
:(Redirected from EBook)
:The correct title of this article is eBook. The initial capital letter is due to technical restrictions.
:An ebook...
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:<Links to articles that contain "e-book" in the title.>
Something doesn't seem right. --72.136.188.23 00:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: I was crosschecking links for the Grantville Gazette eMagazines which are later released both as cannonical ebooks and later published works in the SF 1632 series , when I noted your Bot is constantly making the same edit in the ebook article. I'm rearranging the commonly pasted spam line, as the reference is certainly correctly placed in this article under the eBook Devices heading... which is where your Bot is killing the reference. I'd keep it on patrol however, as the spam form is certainly marketing POV hype.
:Best Regards <B>Fra</B>nkB 20:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overriding Your Bot 

message: Hi Fabartus. I have to admit to not knowing what you're talking about. I have made four edits to the eBook article - I have removed links to two different bookshops, and a product review page - twice. Since you mentioned constant edits, I presume you're talking about the product review article, which is plastered in (in my view) an objectionable amount of advertising, and contains content which could easily fit into the encyclopaedia. My motivation would have been this string of edits, and the guidelines at WP:EL. Perhaps you could clarify your message in light of me not being a bot. Thanks. -- Linkspamremover 20:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you think - I thought the Baen approach noteworthy, but didn't think it belongs higher as it contrasts this way with the preceding discussions of the termoils, whereas this way, it doesn't directly collide with them. There are rumbles that Baen's footsteps are being followed by some of the rest of that genre's publishers. So, this is perhaps the new standard as well. Time will tell! <G>
TTFN <B>Fra</B>nkB 22:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

text: OK, I see what you have done. You appear to have a much greater interest in this subject than me, and I'm sure your edits were in good faith. My main concern is to stop Wikipedia being abused by spammers, and that clearly doesn't apply to you. I'm a little concerned about the links which appear to link straight to books for sale, but I have only had a quick look (in passing noticing something about free books), and will review the links again later after other editors have reviewed the changes, and I have had a chance to read the article and understand the context of this publisher you seem keen to mention (and I'm sure you'll say they're very important - and I'm sure they are). Right now I have other fish to fry. I'd just ask you to keep the external links to a minimum, and if you see any spam links in any articles you are editing to remove them per these guidelines. I suggest if you want feedback on the article you post something on the article's talk page. rgds. -- Linkspamremover 10:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Linkspam

message: In the Oxford English Dictionary, the only use of the letter "e" as a prefix meaning "electronic" is for "email", all lower case. Knowing the OED, and knowing that we don't capitalize Book (or Tape or Download or any other adjective or noun as a generic format), I am nearly positive that the standard spelling is, or will eventually be, ebook. Her Pegship 17:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After seeing the above two posts from such learned advisors, I went out to survey what other encyclopedia's were doing, even putting out necessary fees. 
#'Grolier'— endorses Mel's e-book
#'Encarta'— endorses Mel's e-book
#'Acedemic works' in general: e-book, commercial publishers: eBook, but with a smattering of both gravitating to the all lowercase ebook'.
In the OED Online version, they have the word "e-book", spelled "e-book", (in a "DRAFT ENTRY Sept. 2001"). Their quotations, likely carefully chosen, attest to "E-book" (earliest, 1988), "e-book", "e-book", "eBook", "e-book", respectively. -- Centrx 01:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks so much for finding that! I only have access to the print version. Cheers, ♥ Her Pegship♥ 03:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The OED

message: Since this is, culturally speaking, in such a state of obvious flux, where-in within the same website different forms are used, there is no clear cut 'easy button' solution. Based on the expert and professional opinions of Pegship and Mel Etitis, I'm now far less inclined to go with the commercial mode eBook, than I was before. So it seems to me to simplify this, the vote should be called to confirm or discard eBook VS. Champ_TBDL_lower_case. If we hold that, I'll spam notify every one involved with an 'e-' article, as discussed on my talk page ca. 14-16 May 2006 <B>Fra</B>nkB 15:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  of 'eBook' form on wikipedia, (save as redirect).
#Eliminate eBook variant from further consideration // <B>Fra</B>nkB 15:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote Question

message: This is a straw poll for user feedback on which title they think it better. Please only vote for one title by placing your signature and a small comment under the correct heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JP06035  (talk • contribs)  Revision as of 21:30, 25 May 2006 
====eBook====
# It looks better, and per other reasons above. → J@red  21:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Right, and "Kleenex" and "Band-Aid" and "Post-It", etc. But no one refers to reading material, in whatever format, by a brand name. (Do they?) ♥ Her Pegship♥ 16:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *And it is pretty common for "frisbee", "band-aid", etc. to be spelled out without the capital letters when referring to their generic meanings. This argument is void. - Centrx 21:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll

message: # It looks better, and per other reasons above. → J@red  21:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Right, and "Kleenex" and "Band-Aid" and "Post-It", etc. But no one refers to reading material, in whatever format, by a brand name. (Do they?) ♥ Her Pegship♥ 16:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *And it is pretty common for "frisbee", "band-aid", etc. to be spelled out without the capital letters when referring to their generic meanings. This argument is void. - Centrx 21:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: eBook

message: #I'll go for this version. No caps (not a brand name), and the hyphen seems reasonable. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 21:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: e-book

message: # ebook -- Deprecate hyphenated forms (such as the once-popular to-day). eBook and e-book are almost equally vile, though for different reasons. John Reid 06:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ebook

message: (for your reference)
*CfD (original discussion)
*Village Pump
*Naming conventions (books) ♥ Her Pegship♥ 11:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion in other areas

message: Now the discussion can commence on whether it should be renamed to "Electronic book"... Five years from now people are going to be laughing at renaming everything just because it is "online", and sentences like "They surveyed the field of eBook eFormats available, and decided to ePublish their eMagazine". Translated into an intelligent sentence, this simply means "They surveyed the field of electronic-book formats and decided to publish their magazine online."-- Centrx 20:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 
Moved