Talk:British Helsinki Human Rights Group

message: The location of the BHHRG's "office" (probably Norman Stone's study) is mentioned in Jeremy Druker's report: "The group is run out of Stone's three-story, red-brick Victorian house in Oxford. There is no identifying plaque for the BHHRG outside the house."  Given that this is both factual and relevant, I suggest that this article's anonymous editor should refrain from deleting it. -- ChrisO 23:09, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The BHHRG is a very small organisation in which most if not all of the key members have personal, professional or political ties with each other - if I was going to be partisan about it I could describe it as a small coterie of like-minded right-wing academics.  Let's join the dots:
* The organisation is run out of Norman & Christine Stone's home. 
* Norman Stone himself has worked for the BHHRG on its observer missions. 
* His wife Christine co-founded it.
* His colleague Mark Almond (a fellow member of the Oxford history faculty until 1996) is another co-founder.
* The third co-founder, John Laughland, is a former lecturer at the Sorbonne, which is presumably where he crossed paths with Almond and/or the Stones. 
* All four share a common (right-wing libertarian) political outlook and an interest in central and eastern Europe. 
* Norman Stone isn't in the limelight quite as much as the BHHRG's trustees but he's certainly involved. NOPE. The definition of who counts a "member" is in any case very vague, as it doesn't publish a list of members, but Stone has certainly worked for the BHHRG. By that definition at least, he is a member. -- ChrisO 01:04, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: This is not a historical reference but a hatchet job. Who knows why the authors see themselves as the guardians of truth in contemporary political analysis, but there can hardly be any question that they do. I personally disagree with their take on the world which is only one of many, and find it disturbing that they will tolerate no dissent from their 'party line'. No one serious could ever rely on an entry framed in this manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.60.38.10 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: On Norman Stone

message: @ChrisO: are you going to suppress the factual information that the International Helsinki Federation has gone under in a financial scandal, as determined by Austrian courts and reported by the International Herald Tribune?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.210.154 (talk) 16:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It shouldn't be suppressed, but this article isn't the place for it. It belongs at International Helsinki Federation. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly right. It's not germane to this article. -- ChrisO (talk) 19:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

text: He isn't claiming that the information isn't important, just that this isn't the place for it. This article is about the British Helsinki Human Rights Group. The International Helsinki Federation article is about the International Helsinki Federation. Information about the problems of the International Helsinki Federation belongs in the International Helsinki Federation article. To use another example, if this article was about France, we would note that it neighbours Germany, and link to the Germany article, but we wouldn't include a section on German history. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: International Helsinki Federation

message: I note that the BHHRG website hasn't been working for some time now. Does anyone know if the group is still operating? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still operational? 

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