Talk:Pharyngitis

message: I am by no means whatsoever at all any kind of knowledgeable person when it comes to... things like this, but I have had a sore throat for a while now and my voice has gone deeper and more... pasty when my throat has been worse. --62.136.136.85 21:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Voice loss/change?

message: Can someone please add something about the relation of smoking with sore throats. I get it all the time :( --ExE 16:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tobacco smoking weakens the immune system, probably having the most effect on the respiratory system, though I have no idea of the exact mechanisms behind it. The relationship should definitely be mentioned in the article, if an appropriate citation can be found. Richard001 19:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation with smoking? 

message: A similar shot of a healthy throat would provide a useful comparison for those not used to seeing the well-lit backs of throats. --Dweller 15:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image suggestion 

message: popsicles? peppermint candy? yogurt? Surely these are the result of someone's idea of a joke.—G716 <T·C> 04:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Milk seems to work well. I suspect yogurt would too. ⇌Elektron 11:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symptomatic Treatments 

message: The Wiki article about Cayenne pepper suggests that it could be effective in treating this condition. Even though there appears to be no scientific proof for that claim there are numerous anecdotal reports to be found on the Internet (e.g. on earthclinic.com) which point in that direction. So it would probably be useful to list it along the other household remedies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.175.91.160 (talk) 00:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cayenne pepper as a treatment 

message: This is all touchy feely pseudoscience rubbish.  I recommend we stick with legitimate medical findings not herbal remedies, if any of this witchdoctery drivel worked we wouldn't have the medical industry, we'd turn to shaman everytime we got a disease.  Jachin (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Above two topics

message: I don't know about the results of applying Cayenne pepper to cure a sore throat, but you certainly can't simply ignore herbal remedys as a whole. Milk has a soothing effect (treatment of symtoms), while things like onion or lemon juice supply the body with large quantities of vitamin C, thus helping it to cure itself. By the way, the most common source of pharyngitis - viral infection - cannot be treated with pharmaceutical products ( unless you want to get virostatical infusions ). So the only way is to prevent secondary infections and wait until the immune systeme has eliminated the virus. 87.188.239.107 (talk) 20:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We need research.  Will work on referencing what I can find refers for and removing what I cannot find references for.  Viral pharyngitis can be treated symptomatically. Doc James (talk) 13:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re

message: I've noticed there isn't anything relating the cause of this on the Pharyngitis page. I am interested in why this happens.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.32.177 (talk) 19:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sore Throats caused by Screaming

message: This statement, "Swallowing a couple teaspoons of raw lemon or lime juice several times a day may help destroy microorganisms in bacteria-related throat infections." needs to have a source... As a health care professional, this doesn't even make sense... even if the acidity could kill off the bacteria, it would not have enough contact time to do so... and if you could kill off any, it would be likely that you would kill off other bacteria which had colonized the throat... in turn hurting the patient even further by allowing the infectious organism or ANOTHER infectious organism to move in and claim the free space.  
I will be monitoring this for the next few days and then will make changes unless a source can be provided.  It sounds like a home made remedy without any basis in medicine.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.150.134.2 (talk) 05:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemon or Lime juice is for symptomatic relief... no benefit in killing off throat bacteria... 

message: The article need more general information on the Chronic pharyngitis and comparison with Acute pharyngitis. --CyclePat (talk) 17:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Would agree.  Changed the name to acute pharygitis as chronic pharyngitis is not dealt with at all.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I made it explicit in the lede that the article deals with the acute form, but this is only a makeshift solution. Either the page Pharyngitis should be a disambiguation page, or (my prefererred approach) the article should treat both acute and chronic forms, and then be moved back to Pharyngitis.  --Lambiam 07:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

text: As per concern about wp:precision regarding Acute (medical), i have kept the prefix. Once the article expanded for "chronic sore throat" as well, then we can move it to "sore throat". Regards, Doorvery far (talk) 09:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronic pharyngitis. 

message: Viral - "These comprise about 40–80% of all infectious cases" - What exactly does this mean - seems like a wide range? Kim Tucker (talk) 10:43, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Percentage ranges 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was no consensus for move. –Juliancolton | Talk 16:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Acute pharyngitis → Sore throat —
* :Acute pharyngitis →  —  Already redirect, but needs admin to move. Current title has only 41k google hits while 6.9M hits for the later. More common name, by huge margin. — Doorvery far (talk) 03:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
=== Move, cont. ===
An editor just moved the page, despite there being no consensus established above. I have therefore reverted the move. In addition, I also think the move is bad and that the article should keep the correct name. I have no problem with a new sore throat article. Verbal chat 09:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Verbal.  This part should stay with pharyngitis. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To continue as this is a medical topic we use medical names as per MED MOS.  The ICD 10 names are recommended.  Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, this is encyclopedia, not a doctor's handbook and doctors make for 1% of population. And please dont point me to medical related wiki policy, general policy wp:commonname comes above that. And if you go through ref's of the article without prejudice, you can see mention of 'acute sore throat'. I would go for dispute resolution RFC, soon. Doorvery far (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure feel free. Let me know when you do. Doctors are 3:1000 population btw.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: An editor just moved the page, despite there being no consensus established above. I have therefore reverted the move. In addition, I also think the move is bad and that the article should keep the correct name. I have no problem with a new sore throat article. Verbal chat 09:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Verbal.  This part should stay with pharyngitis. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To continue as this is a medical topic we use medical names as per MED MOS.  The ICD 10 names are recommended.  Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, this is encyclopedia, not a doctor's handbook and doctors make for 1% of population. And please dont point me to medical related wiki policy, general policy wp:commonname comes above that. And if you go through ref's of the article without prejudice, you can see mention of 'acute sore throat'. I would go for dispute resolution RFC, soon. Doorvery far (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure feel free. Let me know when you do. Doctors are 3:1000 population btw.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move, cont. 

message: Have come to the conclusion that sore throat is indeed the more general term with acute pharyngitis being a specific type.  This paper for example talks about post op soar throat which one would not really call post op pharyngitis.  Soar throat is a symptom well pharyngitis is more of a disease.  Anyway will create this page.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sore throat

message: The image in the article sidebar is very clear and detailed but my knowledge is not. So, when challenged to Note the swelling and redness", I didn't have a mental image of a healthy throat to compare with. I can guess that it's not supposed to look so veiny and is that impression of the far wall being close to the opening a correct one? I have no confidence in my intuitions. Unfortunately, a web search for images of "healthy throat" turn up all sorts of manky looking gobs, including a fair selection of stretched and cropped versions of this very pharyngitical image! The throat and tonsils articles have, respectively, no image and am idealised drawing. But the human mouth articles, however, does have an image to compare with, which is shown here.  79.66.204.177 (talk) 13:47, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the question? Picture looks normal. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you a medical doctor, Doc James? Such a background is very helpful when distinguishing "normal" from "not normal". The note above is about the experience of somebody who is not an expert on throats (normal or otherwise) finding the caption Note the swelling and redness less than useful given that there is no comparison model. The picture of a normal throat provided just above is that comparison for the picture in the article. 79.66.204.177 (talk) 22:16, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes an emergency physician. You are suggesting we add this photo as a comparison? If so sounds reasonable. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Note the swelling and redness