Talk:Tim McCarthy

message: Tim McCarthy and Timothy McCarthy pages are duplicated
:They aren't, Timothy McCarthy redirects to Tim McCarthy. --grawity 16:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: In the article about Leslie_Coffelt, four agents are noted for taking a bullet for the president. Three at the Trueman shooting and Tim McCarthy. So who is right? As far as I understand, only Tim McCarthy really prevented a shooting at the president. At the Truman shooting, the President was in another room still. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
--Smordi83 (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been trying to resolve this (sort of), but I can't find any sources specifically backing up the statement that only four agents have been shot protecting the president. This source says "12 Secret Service agents, police officers, pilots and members of presidential cabinets have been injured or killed while on duty to protect the president." It mentions McCarthy and Leslie Coffelt by name. This source from Ghosts of DC names the other two officers at the Truman assassination attempt as Joseph Downs and Donald Birdzell. Coffelt, Birdzell, and Downs were all members of the White House Police Force, which has been part of the Secret Service since 1930, so it's fair to call them Secret Service agents. So now we have four shot while stopping a presidential assassin (I'm not going to make a distinction between taking a bullet meant for the president and taking a bullet in keeping an assassin away from the president). But is that all of them? The Vocativ article I linked doesn't specify how many of the killed or wounded were Secret Service. Five people were shot (one fatally) when Giuseppe Zangara tried to assassinate FDR in 1933, but no source I can find lists any of them as Secret Service agents. I'll have to do some more research. clpo13(talk) 22:22, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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