Template talk:Harvard citation text

message: Given the commonality in markup for the author-date templates, I have developed a meta-template at . See Template talk:Sfn#Core update. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 01:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Core update 

message: Just as NBSP's are needed before spaced dashes to prevent a false bullet from being created, style guides suggest that NBSP's be placed before years in citations. Likewise, shouldn't there be a  buried within this template? —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 17:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't a nobreak be wrapped around these citations? 

message: Is it expected that using  results in "Smith (2005, p. 25)", with the hyperlink only covering half? LFaraone 03:06, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what the right behavior here should be, but you could try  –  – for a different effect. (And why does harvs not allow  as a parameter?) —David Eppstein (talk) 04:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

text: This is the same issue as described at #Unbalanced parentheses above. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird linkification 

message: Instead of "Smith, Jones & Brown", this should say "Smith, Jones, & Brown", with a serial comma. (Unless it says "Smith, Jones, and Brown" with the serial comma and the word "and" instead of the ampersand. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:52, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily, see MOS:OXFORD. --Redrose64 (talk) 01:09, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serial commas 

message: Please see Module_talk:Footnotes#consolidating_and_abandoning_Template:Harvard_citation/core.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  consolidating and abandoning [[Template:Harvard citation/core]] 

message: Please see the discussion at  where a broken harv-link reporting scheme is proposed.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  broken harv link reporting 

message: I propose a new parameter  be added to Template:Harvard citation text as which would make
: 
produce the same output as
: 
At the moment, that possessive parameter in  is ignored.
A more complex implementation could allow for differences in style preferences for names ending in "s". I would recommend still allowing  with a default style, but also allowing  or . I recommend not allowing the full range of style guides, eg APA, AP, etc. for simplicity, consistency, and clarity.
Implementing this will primarily involve changing the core function in Module:Footnotes#L-163.
Thoughts? Objections? Daask (talk) 15:47, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm struggling to see the point of this.  The short form reference just needs the harvid and a location/page.  When would you want "Smith's (1999) study" when simply "Smith (1999)" would take you to the full citation where you could (if you had to) add additional information? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like this would be used in article prose, but inline use of these templates is deprecated. How would this proposed change be useful inside  tags? – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

text: If the authors name is Smith don't use the possive, or if the work is Smith's Encyclopedia use the |ref= field to setup the link however you want. I don't see how this is useful, the default is a link to the authors name and year of publication which doesn't need what is suggested.Maybe it would be helpful if you clarified how and were this would be used. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possessive parameter 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Module talk:Footnotes § loc, at.  Rjjiii (talk) 02:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[:Module talk:Footnotes#loc, at|Module talk:Footnotes §&nbsp;loc, at]]