Talk:Graham Hill

message: I'm not an expert on the law, but from what I do know about the law I'm rather sceptical of the claim that his wife was prosecuted.  Do you possibly mean that Hill was posthumously sued? PatGallacher 23:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If I remember the section on Brise's death in the boo, The Lost Generation, Brise's (father or father-in-law) sued the Hill family or something along those lines. Sorry, I don't have the book with me, but I'll try and find what exactly happened. Once again, sorry.--Skully Collins Edits 15:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: If you sue a dead person you sue their estate. Of course that has has the same effect as suing the benefactors of the estate but its not quite the same thing. --LiamE 18:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who Sued Whom?

message: Here are a couple of links to back-up the assertions:
:http://indy500.tjs-labs.com/list-streak.php?streak=3&sort=A&truncate=Y
:http://indy500.tjs-labs.com/list-qual-streak.php?streak=3&sort=A&truncate=Y
--Mycroft.Holmes 15:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Indy Streaks

message: As well as the often-repeated clip of Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart's double-act at the Sports Personality of the year show, I can remember him doing a series of TV shorts(or a regular spot within whatever was then the equivilent of Top Gear) on better roadcraft - or road driving skills. I'd guess around 1972-73. No idea what it was called, but it was very popular at the time and perhaps equally worthy of inclusion if anyone can find any details. Mighty Antar 00:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV Driving Series 

message: Also the name of a minor hill and elementary school in Seattle. -Uagehry456talk 22:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Completely irreverent information follows

message: What a bizarre notion that anyone would think that the definition of Motor Racing's Triple crown is the Indianapolis 500 (yes) Le Mans (yes) and..... the Monaco Grand Prix!!
The Monaco Grand Prix is only PART of the Formula 1 World championship, and ANY authoritative reference you care to look up (even the one on the French version of Wikipedia, which at some point this article makes reference to) will confirm that the Triple Crown of Motor Racing is regarded as :
FIA F1 World championship
Le Mans 24 Hours
Indianapolis 500
The only driver that has so far captured all three is Graham Hill, (Jacques Villeneuve has 2/3, namely the Indy 500 and the F1 championship) and so long as the present entry for both "Graham Hill" and the "Triple Crown" remain as they are at present in Wikipedia, they will define precicely the weakness of Wikipedia, namely they are the work of someone more interested in his/her (misguided) conviction in their own infallability, rather than providing true facts.
And yes, Bette Hill did get sued by the estate of the passenengers in Graham Hill's plane and lost a great deal of money.
Peterkirchem 13:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What an (sic) bizarre  notion that anyone would think that the definition of Motor Racing's Triple crown includes the Indianapolis 500 and Le Mans 24hr as they are both part of championships? Why would it be 2 races and a championship especially when 2 of the races used to be in the same championship? The triple crown is a carry over from horse racing where it is the the three most important races not 2 races and a championship. --LiamE 17:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

text: And no, Bette Hill was not sued, Graham's estate was sued. Of course in reality there is no appreciable difference between the two in terms of who loses money. --LiamE 18:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I've updated the article to identify the alternative definitions of Triple Crown of Motorsport. An alternative (preferable?) solution would be to just say that he's the only driver to have won it, and if people want to find out what "Triple Crown of Motorsport" means, they can follow the link. DH85868993 (talk) 01:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks DH, clearly both definitions are currently used, with the F1 championship perhaps being used more often lately than it has before simply because of interest in Jaques Villeneuve. Of course by either definition Graham Hill has won it and is the only person to have done so. --LiamE (talk) 11:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Peter, you really must try harder. As far as I can see I made 3 points, firstly I pointed out the obvious fallacy in your rant which perhaps you still can't see. Your logic is flawed, and even if it wasn't it would stil be OR. Secondly, I really can assure you that the triple crown in horse racing is indeed 3 races, not 2 races and a championship in every country that has one. I can also assure you that the horse racing triple crown was first won quite some time before the invention of the car. Thirdly, you simply cannot sue someone for something they are not responsible for, ergo Mrs Hill was not sued, but rather Graham's estate was. The fact that Mrs Hill was the main beneficiary of the estate means she was in effect sued by proxy, but still SHE was not sued. Furthermore using "an" inappropriately is not a spelling error but an error of grammar. I would also like to point out that the only reason I pointed it out at all was to draw attention to the fact I was using your logic, but perhaps that just went straight over your head too.  --LiamE (talk) 12:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: There is no formal grand slam in tennis, but many people are conversant with the term. Incidentally that used to be triple crown too! The 3 race crown was the original - the races all pre-date the F1 championship by 20 years or more, but 2 races and the F1 title has also been bandied about where anyone appropriate has got close, such as Villeneuve, who's mother might be a near miss for your new triple crown. Should Montoya get a drive at Le Mans we'll be back to the 3 race crown as fast as you can say "Monte Carlo" in faux French accent. As for the new triple, Mrs Hill does have some competition from the Hunts, Sennas, Piquets, Laudas and Rosbergs... time will tell. Now to the crucial question of grammar. I would prefer "an" F1 if pronounced eff-one, but "a" Formula one if that's okay!  --LiamE (talk) 11:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Does the tennis grand slam not exist because there is no prize for it and its not official? Or the horse racing triple crown for that matter? And what body would could define it anyway? Simply put, the triple crown exists but it exists as what people want it to be at the time, with the Daytona included if necessary I guess! --LiamE (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TRIPLE CROWN 

message: Did Bette have a last name before she married Graham Hill? Did they meet and date before they got married?
Nick Beeson (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bette?

message: theres almost nothing about his past, it would be cool if someone could find that. just pointing out something that could be added if somebody wants to.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.74.42 (talk) 01:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't a short biography. Graham Hill has an article because he was an important racing driver. So this article is supposed to be about why he is important. --Falcadore (talk) 04:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  early life? 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Graham Hill. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080118101235/http://www.lastingtribute.co.uk:80/famousperson/hill/2601501 to http://www.lastingtribute.co.uk/famousperson/hill/2601501
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 15:44, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think we should get a image of Graham Hill in 1975 that is not copyright please.92.21.255.192 (talk) 14:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: 1975 images

message: In 1964 Hill came 2nd to Surtees despite having more points than Surtees. Surtees team mate also collided with Hill in the last race of the season to help Surtees become World Champion. Mobile mundo (talk) 16:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The points system was best 6 from 10, which worked out unlucky for Hill, who had a better finishing record than Surtees. Bandini was a hot-headed young Italian in a Ferrari, trying to pass Hill, and they tangled. This was 1964, not 1994. In those days you didn't try to barge your opponent off the track, or you might both end up dead. Halmyre (talk) 07:18, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial 1964 season 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Graham Hill. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071106023236/http://www.usgpindy.com/news/story.php?story_id=1417 to http://www.usgpindy.com/news/story.php?story_id=1417
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071211040252/http://intakeinfo.com/automotive/monaco-grand-prix-glitz-draws-rising-stars.html to http://intakeinfo.com/automotive/monaco-grand-prix-glitz-draws-rising-stars.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140311164626/http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/discover/blue-plaques/search/hill-graham-1929-1975 to http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/discover/blue-plaques/search/hill-graham-1929-1975
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071015183237/http://www.indy500.com/stats/drivers.php?drivername=Graham+Hill to http://www.indy500.com/stats/drivers.php?drivername=Graham+Hill
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120214060923/http://thompson-motorsports.com/indy6302.html to http://thompson-motorsports.com/indy6302.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100211190547/http://www.500race.org/Men/Hill.htm to http://www.500race.org/Men/Hill.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120322131605/http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/history/45977/ to http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/history/45977/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:15, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Graham Hill. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130910005622/http://badgergp.com/2012/05/graham-hill-the-man-they-called-mister-monaco/ to http://badgergp.com/2012/05/graham-hill-the-man-they-called-mister-monaco/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110724044601/http://www.thegreatest33.com/default.aspx to http://thegreatest33.com/default.aspx
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:29, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: According to Karting magazine Graham Hill is credited with winning the first ever official go kart race in the UK. Worth at least a passing mention?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.1.229.118 (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karting