Talk:Leo (constellation)

message: Although the claim that the symbol for Leo derived from a corruption of the Greek letter lambda had a source, Egyptian Planetary Texts by O. Neugebauer, in the Transactions of the American Philosophical Society, New Ser., Vol. 32, No. 2. (Jan., 1942), pp. 245-6 argues against this identification. The details are messy and well beyond the scope of the article. Micah.t.ross (talk) 11:52, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zodiacal Symbol 

message: An anonymous editor has made some changes by adding the definite article "al-" to many of the transliterations of stars with Arabic proper names ("Al-Rās al-Āsad al-Šamālii", e.g.), but he didn't add it to the Arabic:
: رأس الأسد الشمالي
Shouldn't that instead be changed to:
: الرأس الأسدالشمالي 
If anyone here knows?  (My understanding of Arabic is very rudimentary.) --Kbh3rdtalk 21:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic star names 

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message: This constellation should be changed to Leo Major (Great Lion) because there is the constellation of Leo Minor (Little Lion) and the name of two constellations is Leo (Lion) like Ursa Major (Great Bear) and Ursa Minor (Little Bear) is Ursa (Bear) and Canis Major (Great Dog) and Canis Minor (Little Dog) is Canis (Dog). Cosmium 22:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it shouldn't. The name of this constellation is Leo, not Leo Major no matter how the other constellations are named. This is because Leo Minor is a modern constellation and very inconspicuous one. The other "Minor" constellations were created in antiquity and are much more prominent.--JyriL talk 00:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The Official name of this constellation by IAU is Leo, not Leo Major. But "Leo major" found on the plate VI (chiefly Ursa Major) in Bode's great star atlas Uranographia (1801).--Bay Flam 07:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those amateur astronomers inclined to can rename it to Leo Major in private talk, if they wish too, but the official IAU name is Leo. However, using Leo Major consistently at star parties requires for example that Denebola is called Beta Leonis Majoris. It will be a fine party trick the first time, but next times the party partakers will probably start to jawn. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 12:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the Name 

message: The section on Etymology says that Dionysus/Bacchus is always portrayed with a lion. In my experience the god is usually accompanied by a leopard, may wear the skin of a panther, and is also associated with the bull, the serpent, and even the tiger. As the article points out under Mythology it is Heracles/Hercules who slew the Nemean lion, later put into the heavens as the constellation. Jim Lacey 19:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no personal experience meeting this guy, but the link Theoi: Dionysus ... etc. tells that you're perfectly right. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 12:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leo (constellation) Etymology 

message: This presents itself as a natural sciences article.  There is a separate article for the astrological sign Leo.  IMHO it is inappropriate to include mythology in this article.  It ought to deal with facts and historical references, not myths and cosmologies.  If others feel it is appropriate to present both astrology and astronomy in the same article, then the two articles should be combined.  Lmonteros (talk) 04:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I've cut the astrology section back to the bare minimum, as in other zodiacal constellations.Skeptic2 (talk) 09:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Astronomical myths are part of astronomers' culture, and has very little to do with astrology. Astronomical myths is folklore for astronomers, and the fact that astrology and their separate symbolic system doesn't belong to here, makes no good reason for shrinkwrapping astronomers' folklore. However: it is a good thing that the article is balanced, so that the astronomy of Leo is prominent before the folklore. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 12:37, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Astrology or Astonomy? 

message: It says "best visible on the month of April". That is for the northern hemisphere or for the Ecuador line, or what?
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.90.224.232 (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Best Visible?

message: The section History and mythology are cut-n-pastes from Star Names: Their Lore and Meaning by Richard Hinckley Allen, which is public domain. While copyright is then not a problem, Allen have been heavily by f.ex. Gary D. Thompson criticised for using bad sources, and not being able to check them. We should shrinkwrap the two first paras of the section, and try to find other sources and rewrite. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 12:52, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History and mythology 

message: Here it says Iota Leonis is divisible in a telescope, the Iota Leonis stub says they are not. Which is correct? 184.60.225.4 (talk) 02:57, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iota Leonis 

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message: This section is interesting up to the point where it wanders off into this: "The zodiac sign Leo creatively redrawn fits astonishingly to the chalk lines of the galloping White Horse of Uffington." This bit seems to be more about coins than constellations.
Who deleted this very interesting stuff about the horse of Uffington and the link to this better lion image in the constellation. This is highly interesting information and very much needs to be here. This is not about coins this is about how cultures in the past saw the Leo constellation. How can somebody just go and delete so much information without recognising the relevance of this information as scientific research on the Leo constellation?
:Oh, you mean this. Okay. All material needs to be sourced. Will look at this a bit later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:56, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted this material as it is speculative and unsourced - "connect the dots" exercises do not belong on WP. If it is published in a reliable source then it can be added. AstroLynx (talk) 09:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

text: Rey's visualization was published in his star atlas and has been copied by several later authors. The stuff which I deleted was not published in anything that I can call a reliable source. Here on WP published (i.e. printed) sources are always preferred above web sources (which are prone to disappear at any given moment). Your last argument fails on the ground that WP is not intended as a platform for speculation (there are other websites for that) but for reliable (and verifiable) information. AstroLynx (talk) 15:02, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

text: Still, this does not belong on WP. In the future, please sign your comments with four tildes at the end. AstroLynx (talk) 15:07, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, but your link is to a Spiritualist site and it looks as though you are trying to increase hits. The new 'visualization' is non-notable. AstroLynx is correct to delete. Skeptic2 (talk) 16:28, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

text: Your visualization (I assume it is yours, otherwise you would not be so persistent in trying to add it to WP) includes stars up to visual magnitude 6½. This is unrealistic as the brightness range between the brightest and the faintest stars in your visualization is about 100. For a star pattern to be notable and easily recognizable the brightness range between the brightest and the faintest stars must be much less. Again, please sign your comments - you only have to add four tildes (the symbol in the top left corner of your keyboard) at the end. AstroLynx (talk) 17:11, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visualizations 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Eta Leonis is my favorite star in the constellation, but it is not mentioned in the Stars section toward the beginning of the article. 199.127.199.38 (talk) 15:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eta Leonis 

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