Talk:Eric the Actor/Archive 1

message: I can't stop listening to the replays with that song! Foday 06:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fly me with balloons

message: Shouldn't the article mention that Eric Lynch has an IQ of 175 and invented the self-cleaning toilet? MGlosenger 01:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genius? 

message: *"Ughhde!!" 
*"Ernnnn!!" 
*"Egehhk!!" 
*"Unkgh!!" 
*"Eeehhh!!"
Eric says "uh" a lot but Sal and others greatly exaggerate his grunting and there is no way these are quotes. Foday 22:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: These aren't quotes

message: No one is going to look up "Eric the Astronaut Diminutive Actor". We don't need to move this page every time he gets a new nickname as long as he is primarily known as "Eric the Midget". Foday 20:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I moved this back from "Eric the Astronaut Diminutive Actor"

message: "Eric the Midget" (in quotes) gets 14,000 results on Google. If you aren't a fan, read some other article. Yes, it needs cleanup, but not deletion or to be merged into the Wack Pack article which is already too long. Foday 05:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Foday, I am not supporting deletion, or merging.  The article should stay.  I am simply reminding us (through the use of this tag) that we have to establish notability.  google hits alone aren't enough.  Please read the tag about how we can site reliable sources.  --Bill.matthews 02:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Notability (people)
This article is notable, as it passes:
* The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field. (History of Howard Stern Show)
* Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions. Notability can be determined by:
**A large fan base, fan listing or "cult" following.
As you say here and here, you are not "supporting deletion, or merging.  The article should stay."  You also stated you don't believe The Wack Pack should be deleted either.  As such, the tag you implemented at these various locations is incorrect.
Citing reliable sources is needed, and a tag for that is currently in place for the article in question.  Since the Notability tag is a precursor for deletion or merging, and you have stated that is not your aim or intention, I am removing it.  However, I do encourage others to cite sources and improve this article.  --Bark 15:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm also confused about your opinion on the "Google Test".  You seem to not support it here, but you seem to support it on the O&A Army page.  --Bark 17:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric is notable!

message: \Actually the The thing I'd like to try and add is historical context for Eric including how he first came to the show, and how he established himself. The farthest back I remember him is around the time of the move (2004,2005), does anyone have a better estimate? It's important to note how he came to the show, and to establish how his identity on the show initially came to be.(Optigan13 21:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The first appearance I could find was on Mark's Friggin(MF) on the September 2002 date I put. The way MF described it that was Lynch's first appearance, at least the first where he was recognized and called Eric the Midget. I think the next thing I saw that needs to be put in is Stern's attempts to get Lynch dates. I'm just trying to fill out Eric's back story so it doesn't have as much bias towards recent stuff. Optigan13 05:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric History

message: I didn't think this was worth it's own section, however since it was designated a section I cleaned it up and added sources.
20:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I gave it it's own section until we could figure out what was going on. I'll try and clean up and refine the cites some more later today. You need to change the name of the citation, right now you re-used the 2007-01-04 cite, so the citation from that date is out of whack. Optigan13 21:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Remember to assume good faith from each other, you both care about the show and improving the article, its just difference in opinion. Even though it may be a big deal to Stern fans we need to keep it within bio notability and BLP guidelines. The rundown from today didn't mention wikipedia, specific pornstars, or masturbation beyond that he does it in bed. I think that we become so immersed in listening every day, and tend to write where someone who wouldn't know the show would get lost or care about some of this minutiae. The rundowns and mark's friggin citations we put in aren't generally considered as reliable sources, or proof of notability, and the articles are easily deleted. I don't want to put a lot of work in, only to have an article deleted for BLP or notability concerns. That's why I wanted to merge the stupid bowl a while back, it and some other TV articles are kinda of floating around on their own, and could easily get picked off one by one or just plain lost. They should get merged into one comprehensive TV article. We should have a select tight group of articles about the Stern Show. It is easier to maintain and improve them, they are much better connected, are much less likely to get deleted or lost among the shuffle.Optigan13 05:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure I've ever butted heads with you, unless you're using a different account (which I think you may be doing judging from the contribs on your current account). Anyway, ETM is a living person and your edit seemed to me to be not notable and only put in to humiliate him further. LilDice 11:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thnink there was some minor disagreement over inclusion in one of the articles, but I can't seem to find it. Also that wasn't Tolimfan's edit, I moved the Brandi mention there. It was added a couple times by IP editors on the 24th, but those edits were mixed in with all the vandalism. I gave it a section and kept it since people were peppering that info all over the article, and I hadn't even heard what exactly he said or how much it mattered. Optigan13 04:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It's not really an issue of what I think about the rundowns or mark's friggin, those are fine for me when there is a dispute between fans those are fine. The issue is when people from the general Wikipedia community come in and review the articles. I wasn't really thinking of merging stupid bowl into the main show page as I was thinking of splitting the Stern Show page's sections on the TV shows and the film fest into an article with stupid bowl and Howard Stern's New Year's Rotten Eve. The main show page is getting big, and those two are kind of small. So you would have this overlap between stern show, a tv show page, and a games and bits page. Optigan13 05:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Busty Bri and Triple D Brandy

message: Why do you feel compelled to delete and tinker with the article?  The paragraphs that you deleted contribute to Eric's character and would help non Stern fans understand what kind of person Eric is.  
(Tofilmfan 21:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted your edits, they are not notable. LilDice 23:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but while Eric asking to be roasted and requesting a hit are interesting, I don't think they are notable because they aren't really central to who he is on the show. I'm going on a break for a while so go nuts with additions and changes, just work it out with the other editors. If you have any  constructive criticism of my work leave it on my talk page. Optigan13 05:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: what's your problem Optigan13?

message: Folks, this is an encylopedia, not a fan site.  Although I believe Eric the Midget deserves an article, we do not need a day by day recap of his appearances, negotiations, etc.  The The Sal and Richard agreement section seems the worst. --Bill.matthews 18:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned up the article in general.. personally, I like the detailed timeline.  I think it establishes Eric's hypocritical attitude towards the show nicely.  I'd say it's 'cleaned up', myself.. MGlosenger 10:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think so, it's just a blip after all. If there was media coverage that'd be on thing. Otherwise, it's not notable. Lil' Dice (yeah, I said it!) - talk 23:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Discussion of the pitch, tone and timbre of Eric's voice = Constructive
Discussion of how the show reacted to Eric's abortion of an "Idol" wrap-up = Constructive
Discussion of how Eric reacts to the new names = Constructive
Wikipedia vigilantes = non-constructive. Dkendr (talk) 17:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a "constructive edit" 

message: Some users have taken it upon themselves to remove contributions from this page which are either unflattering to Eric Lynch or contrary to positions he has taken.  Such selective edits are unacceptable and contrary to Wikipedia guidelines. 
Dkendr (talk) 17:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Users Editing this Page

message: should they all be grouped into the same category?
:Yes they should, I think I'm going to reorganize the page to work that way. Otherwise this reads as a day to day journal of every call he makes. (Optigan13 06:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Balloon events

message: Radio personality? He calls in as a fan to a radio show. In no way is that a job. I didn't want to edit this myself but I think it should be changed to "Unemployed" --The Lone Bard (talk) 15:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He appears frequently on the radio, and he most definitely has a unique personality.  Besides, if it wasn't "radio personality" it would have to be "SSI collector". Chris01720 (talk) 05:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occupation 

message: Is Eric's American Idol commentary show noteworthy enough to have it's own section?  It seems to be a major piece of who Eric is on the Stern Show.  Also, does anybody else think his appearance on the webcam is notable enough to have it's own section, mentioning his hand, acne/rash, etc?  I would think that such a section would definitely pertain to who Eric is on the show.  The show's cast didn't realize just how unfortunate Eric's disabilities are until the webcam. Chris01720 (talk) 09:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Utter Boredom 

message: I noticed that info about Eric's girlfriend, Kendra, has been removed from the article.  Kendra has been the focus of discussion on the show for over a week.  In my opinion it seems to be important enough to deserve mentioning in the article.  True, it is not essential to explaining Eric's role on the show, but why does this article have to be restricted to just that? Chris01720 (talk) 21:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this true?  I've noticed that a ton of edits have been made recently, many of which have deleted very important information.  Other edits seem to be purposely made in order to enhance Eric's reputation.  If that's the case, the attention of an admin might be a good idea.  X3210 (talk) 07:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Has anybody noticed a pattern of people removing relevant info about Eric?  There are some positives about Eric, and I think that some people are legitimately trying to add those positives...WP:UNDUE. Chris01720 (talk) 11:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Would it be noteworthy to make mention of their "relationship" on Kendra's wikipedia article? Chris01720 (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lynch's Girlfriend Kendra 

message: The "informant" that Langford refers to in his story is "Patrick", not "Paul" as this entry states.  "Patrick" has been mentioned many times by both Langford, as well as Eric & Johnny Fratto - I don't think I've ever heard the name "Paul" thrown around.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.114.206 (talk) 05:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Langford's Investigative Story 

message: On May 22, 2008 Eric announced that he renegged on his promise to do Colin Quinn's remake of Taxi Driver.  He stated that he isn't doing it anymore because he is sick of being proded about it by Stern fans in his online chat rooms.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.166.132.2 (talk) 17:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric no longer doing taxi driver 

message: Incorrect reference under the Johnny Fratto fight.  The actress' name is "Brandy Talore."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.128.49 (talk) 23:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brandy Talore 

message: Who deleted that section?  That is a pretty significant event for Eric, ordering that.  If him wanting to be roasted is worthy of a paragraph...so is that.  I'm gonna re add it.  
I better not sign my name, I don't wanna suffer the same fate as Jerry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tofilmfan (talk • contribs) 05:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric order's a hit

message: It should be "John Blutarski", not "Robert".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.41.210.37 (talk) 02:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  0.0 section 

message: As of this date, sources confirm Eric the Midget will "fly with balloons". This is the much sought after stunt that Eric has agreed to perform several times, but backed out on. Sources say the stunt will be announced on the Howard Stern show on Jan.9th and the stunt itself is due to take place on Jan.27th in Las Vegas, NV. Eric "the midget" Lynch, gained fame by making appearances on the Howard Stern show as a member of the "Whack Pack", a group of misfits usually made fun of on the show.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedipower (talk • contribs) 18:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric the Midget to fly with balloons. 

message: STERN KICKED HIM OFF THE SHOW, AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY, ALL THE FANS, ALL THE STAFF! Please Put that in! thanks! 
70.111.246.184 (talk) 02:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. elektrikSHOOS 02:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 70.111.246.184, 9 November 2010 

message: Was just over at the bart simpson wikipedia page, and noticed that it said Eric "The Midget" Lynch is the voice of Bart. I think we should add a section covering this seeing as Bart has been a household name for over 30 years. Wayne  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.138.19 (talk) 04:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bart Simpson?? 

message: The article states he stands at 3'5", but he recently admitted to being only 3'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.88.228.158 (talk) 03:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric's height

message: Since Eric the Midget has been formally removed from the show by Howard Stern (as of the November 8 2010 episode of the daily live radio show), the voice of the article should be changed to the past tense. 
Reference: (Howard Stern's official webpage)
Besides, he is unknown outside of the Howard Stern universe.... severe notability issues exist - Eric the Midget should be an entry in a longer wack pack article, and not have his own entry.
Heterodyne (talk) 13:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer on the show 

message: Nak Nak  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobblepez (talk • contribs) 23:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric's famous quote: 

message: Please add the following text to the existing "===Leaving the show===" section.
On March 29, 2011 Eric stated that he was "announcing complete retirement from the show" to Howard 100 News Staffer []. Eric stated that after almost 4 months it finally occurred to him that providing interviews to the News department was still participating in the show. However, in closing he did tell Shuli that they could still text each other, thus leading Shuli to predict that we would be hearing from Eric within two weeks.
SOURCE:  http://howardstern.com/archive.hs?h=493  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawest (talk • contribs) 16:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Rawest, 29 March 2011 

message: Everything done and said on the Howard Stern Show is meticulously cataloged by fan sites.  Eric the Midget's repeated mention on these sites does not make him notable in a general way.   VegetativePup (talk) 17:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Deletion

message: To prevent any further RVing of our edits we should probably discuss it here.  While I do agree that there are productive edits to be made I do not think that nearly blanking the page is the way to go about this.  Hullaballoo Wolfowitz has removed sourced material without proper explanation.  Could you please explain in further detail why you have removed so much of the sourced material without the vague BLP, NPOV explanations we have received so far? You have removed any reference to the only studio appearance, acting gigs, podcasts, and venture into TNA Wrestling.  All of these things are well sourced and encyclopedic as it pertains to being pertinent the life of Eric Lynch.  I do not think these edits have been made in good faith and without further explanation I will assume this is just a case of WP:Crying "BLP!" and a case of a WP:BLP Zealot.  You have essentially stripped this article down to "Eric the Midget exists"!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordMaldad2000 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: RV

message: Eric has made one in-studio appearance on November 3, 2008 alongside two prostitutes from the Bunny Ranch. Also present were Dixie Chicks singer Natalie Maines, wrestler Kurt Angle and American Idol alumna Diana DeGarmo. The event received press coverage from Newsday's Adam Abramson.Eric's historic appearance – The Howard Stern Show. Howardstern.com (2008-11-03). Retrieved on 2011-10-29.
Adabramson (talk) 17:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. This appears to already be in the article... BryanG (talk) 23:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 28 February 2013 

message: Add in Category:Actors with dwarfism
75.133.91.115 (talk) 02:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 13 April 2013 

message: Per Eric's Twitter account - he was born in San Pablo, California - not Rodeo, California. https://twitter.com/EricTheActor11/status/333787144285995008  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.64.186 (talk) 19:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not going to update it to San Pablo because a Twitter post isn't a strong enough source.  But Rodeo is unsourced so I have removed that as his place of birth.LM2000 (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric's place of birth.  

message: I have quick-failed this article per its obviously non-neutral treatment of the subject. This is a biography of a living person, and thus it is even more POV and unacceptable than it normally would be to title the article using a term the very subject finds equatable to the N-bomb. I strongly suggest that the contributors to this article rename this article using Eric's full legal name, and enact a cleanup and general review per the Manual of Style, WP:V and especially WP:BLP. The lack of respect for the harm to a real person that could be caused by this article is absolutely shameful, and seriously damages Wikipedia's reputation. VanTucky Talk 21:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Entertainer and Giant are not pejoratives. Midget is a slur. Also, I am a member of that WikiProject, so don't threaten me. I didn't actually change anything in the article, I simply failed an article for a GA nomination. Censorship entails something actually having been censored. VanTucky Talk 22:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: pejoratives?? Please, they are simply nouns, and in particular, they are part of someones title, just like andre the giant is.  You need to relax a little bit and just enjoy this article, as it has done an excellent job listing the truths that that have taken place in eric's life.  Find a real cause to get behind  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.36.111 (talk) 08:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Giant is just as offensive as Midget. I suffer from Beanstalkitis and I demand you take back your comments and refer to Andre as Andre the Large 64.230.5.75 21:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed "good article" nomination

message: Please add date of death to September 20, 2014. Source: I am a family member. Thank you.
199.59.170.152 (talk) 13:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. You say you are a family member, but we have no way of knowing if that is true, and all information needs to be verifiable. - Arjayay (talk) 17:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2014 

message: As much as I hate to say it, Howard seems to have made "Eric the Actor" the new normal. We might want to check how much coverage he got as "the Midget" back in the day. --Lenin and McCarthy  |  (Complain here) 18:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: Is he jewish?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.45.36.175 (talk) 17:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish? 

message: In the world of little people, referring to someone as a midget is derogatory. Just like calling an African-American a n****r or a Caucasian a cracker. it's the same with midget. Drop the word midget & replace it with actor as it should be.
Cathead100 (talk) 10:24, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: Please comment on the requested move below where a discussion is taking place whether to rename (move) the article. Stickee (talk) 00:11, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2014 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support for the same reason that I stated in the thread above.LM2000 (talk) 21:14, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Cyberbot II has detected links on Eric the Actor which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global
If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally.
When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags.
Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
*http://www.change.org/p/atas-add-eric-s-lynch-aka-eric-the-actor-to-your-remembrance-at-the-next-emmy-telecast?recruiter=1984670
*:Triggered by \bchange\.org\b on the local blacklist
If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 17:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on [[Eric the Actor]] 

message: I was reading this article and found the wording of the opening paragraph quite clumsy.  I work in the disability field and nobody I know would like to be referred to this way.  The particular phrase "and used a motorized wheelchair, in addition to various other afflictions" sounds like the wheelchair is an "affliction".  Also the use of the word affliction would not be welcomed.  You could use terms like other "health issues".
An example could be "Lynch was 3 ft 0 in (0.91 m) tall,[3] weighed 85 lb (39 kg), and had a number of health issues.  He used a motorized wheelchair for mobility.
Beth5108 (talk) 13:32, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: finally. — Wyliepedia 17:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rethink the sentence. 

message: This request is for the edit of Eric's Birth Place as it is now it shows. 
Born Eric Shaun Lynch
March 11, 1975
Rodeo, California
It should show.
Born Eric Shaun Lynch
March 11, 1975
San Pablo, California
Thanks: 
Jon (Yawn)
A.K.A Eric Best Friend/Care Giver VIKINGRIMREAPER (talk) 18:09, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2017 

message: Eric's IQ was tested and revealed on-air to be 90, or 'low average'  though the tester hired by the show did admit that Eric's various physical handicaps likely artificially depressed his performance to some extent -- he was not, for example, able to move the blocks around as effectively as people the test was meant to score.
http://www.wcqj.com/iq-test-results/
The general Eric “The Actor” Lynch page is incorrect about Eric’s height. He was 27” (2 ft 3) tall but it says he was 35” tall. Edits are disabled but if anyone knows how to pass the correct info to the author please do so! Dcarmody430 (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Medical conditions