Talk:Mortar (masonry)

message: Instead of using words like Mason and Mortar one should consider using these as replacements, Brick layers and cement. (Language bid)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.13.198.201 (talk) 15:48, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

message: In my original entry I used the word "slime" as one of the types of mortar used by the Babelonians to lay bricks. This was later changed to "lime" by the well intentioned 88.114.102.66. However, I have now changed it back to "slime" according to my source. 
Genesis 11:3 : And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick of stone, and slime had they for morter.
According to Wiktionary, slime is soft moist earth or clay, having an adhesive quality. It may have been a bitumen product.Tvbanfield (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Slime is correct

message: Need source for volcanic ash "originally discovered and dug in Italy" for internal consistency. See article section on Ancient mortars.Tvbanfield (talk) 19:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Need source

message: Perhaps correct this sentence:
'The earliest known use of lime mortar dates to about 4000 BC in Ancient Egypt.
But I dont Care
[Concrete Construcyion Manual, pg 9. Friedbert Kind-Barkauskas]
Finds in Eastern Turkey dating from about 12,000 BC represent the oldest known use of lime mortar as a building material. Then about 6000 years later lime was used as a binder in the mortar in the construction clay brick structures in the Jericho culture in Palestina. Aming the remains of old buildings dating from about 5500 BC excavated near Lepenski Vir in the Carpathian Mountains are ((removed slurs here- lost piece of original comment- 173.26.195.10 (talk) 05:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fix

message: If mortar's purpose is to stick the bricks together, why isnt glue used?--Light current 03:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most glues are not weatherproof for centuries. And mortar is also a very cheap material compared to glue. Finally, the mortar sets to be as hard as the bricks it joins together, so the combined wall (bricks and mortar) is strong enough to hold the building up. Notinasnaid 07:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: If this is a comment on the article, I don't see the word "stick" being used. I see "bind", which is not the same thing at all. Notinasnaid 08:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, you can bind a bundle of sticks with string; the resulting bundle may be immensely strong. But the string doesn't stick them together. I agree that the fact that the mortar becomes an integral supporting part of the structure is important enough to mention. Notinasnaid 08:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Chado has it right. The primary purpose of the mortar is to spread the load of the above weight evenly across the entire surface of the stone below.  Michel Bouttier explains in his book "Cathedrales, Comment elles sont construites," (Cathedrals, how they are built, translated from the French) that the mortar does not serve as a glue, but as a supple layer capable of absorbing the irregularities due to the cut of the stones. He has determined (for a limestone block from a specific quarry in France) that if you stacked stones of one meter on each side on top of each other without mortar, and if the irregularities are such that only 1/100 th of the mating surfaces would be in contact, the lower stones would break after reaching a height of 4.5 meters. But if mortar is applied to fill in all the gaps so that the weight is spread evenly across the entire surface, instead of just on many points that would break, the stones could theoretcally be stacked to 450 meters without any cracking.Tvbanfield (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purpose 

message: I have deleted this bit.  It is an inappropriate level of detail for what is a brief summary, and should be in the portland cement article.  However, the grades given are completely different to those mentioned in the portland cement article, which would need to be explained.  It is also inappropriate to mention the cement grades of just one country: there are dozens of national standards out there.--Stonemad GB 09:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: US portland cement grades

message: The reference link under current fn. 2, i.e.
http://www.iranian.com/main/2008/constitutional-clash?page=
is problematic. The link is to an article on the constitutional crisis in Iran. On the second page of reader's comments to this article, an unverified reader cites a newspaper article citing research by Ghirshman. Although the facts are perhaps correct, a better reference to Ghirshman's work ought to be available; in any case it's so hard to find the relevant information following the link that the link seems, at first glance anyway, to be broken and/or the result of vandalism.Rilkas (talk) 03:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference needs verification 

message: I am thinking about changing the BCs to BCEs.  Any objections?Selladour (talk) 02:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  BCE Vs BC 

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