Talk:History of Poznań

message: "Poznan was in years 1815-1919 the capital of the Grand Duchy of Poznan in personal union with the Kingdom of Prussia, but it was not part of Germany. In year 1871 it was unilateraly annexed by the newly created German Empire, despite the protests of the Polish parliamentarians. Poznan was also occupied by the Nazi Germany during World War II (1939-45). "
This is a blatant attempt to minimize and de-germanize history. (1) First you say that it was never part of Germany betweeen 1815 and 1919, then you admit is was after 1871. It couldn't have been part of Germany before 1871, because there was no Germany before then. You attempt to imply that it wasn't part of a German state, by conveniently ignoring the fact that is was an annexed part of the Prussian kingdom from the late 1790s (with the exception of the 8 short Napolean years). Hiding behind the official wording of "personal union" and "autonomous" (which were in name only), doesn't change the fact that the area was in complete Prussian control during that time. 
"They were assimilated into the Polish ethnicity, and later resisted Prussian efforts to re-Germanize them. " I believe that you are referring to earlier settlers, what is commonly referred by historians as the "first and second waves". These were pre-"counter-reformation" and they had been assimulated into the Polish population, since they were Polish citizens and Catholics. This whole statement is another POV violation attempt to re-write history.Bwood 18:00, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I would remove this phrase: The eastern branch had another station and a spur that serviced the slaughterhouse district (Jewish quarter). Look at this: - railway is in this same place as in those times (today station is named "Poznań Garbary" . And "Jewish quater" is here  - this small area between: Żydowska, Szewska, Małe Garbary and Dominikańska.
*Now "Cybina". In XIX century Warta flows through Poznańa little bit diffrent way. Main streem was in this same place were is today, () but if you look on this map - naxt branch was were today are: Harbour (this bay in NE corner of map) and Mostowa Str. Now look here  If you find Cybina You should know that south end of this branch was "dead end".  Now here is clue to mystery  There's again a branch o Warta named Cybina, and a small river linking this branch with Jezioro Maltańskie ("Maltan Lake"). This small river is also called Cybina and it is 43 km long. So this dead ended branch was called after this river (or rather big creek). In 1960' rotue of Warta in Poznań was Changed. One branch was liquidated, and Cybina branch was reopened and renamed to Kanał Ulgi ("Channel of Relief"), but in fact both names are used. So "Cybina" is a name of river, and also branch (in those times long bay) of Warta. 
*Transformation from City of Poznan to Festung Posen in which more important were orders of garrison commander than town concuil
*1846 - 1849 - Polish fighters in uprisings of 1846 and 1848
*The phrase: German residents who had not fled and who had survived the pillage and reprisals during the defeat was wery POV because: In whole paragraph there is no mention about large number of Polish civil victims caused mainly not by regular German army but by Grenzschutz-Ost. In this case mentioning about German victimes was rather German POV.
*Later I will try to writ something about those Uprisings, I'm also writing Polish language article (or rather series of articles) about history of Poznań. If You know Polish look there, maby You will find something that will interest You (for now "I've stuck" in XVI century).
 
Also Merry Christmas to You Radomil 01:10, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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message: Before Polans have arrived (that the moved to there is missing too), there settled germanic tribes at specially Burgundians - and may be, there moved most of them abroad, not all. Totally missing here,2A02:8109:8CC0:6480:95D0:54E3:E23B:732F (talk) 23:38, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  which cultures?