Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode lists/Archive 3

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject List of Television Episodes/structure needs to be updated a bit and cleaned up to reflect the formatting currently being used by the templates and such.  I've started to edit some stuff, trying to stick with things that I think you'll all agree with.  Feel free to revert, edit, reword, anything you don't think sounds right. Any major concerns should be brought to ether this talk page or to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject List of Television Episodes/structure.  I think it's important that we still explain the article layout even without using templates.  For one, it shows people what the templates are actually doing, in raw form, as well as giving editors a non-template option, if there be a need for it.  In addition, I think we should strive to eventually get this, or something like this, into the Manual of Style as an official guideline, in which case we would have to explain all the formatting details.
In addition to the changes I made, there should also be a section about references, which is one requirement for Featured list status.  I also think we should come up with some guidelines to help deal with lists that are embedded into their main articles and not big enough to split.  Maybe even explore other formatting appearances that would still be acceptable, to give some additional options.
This should at least get the ball rolling.  I think it might be a good idea to inform some other wikiprojects about the updates to get their input, since our membership is still pretty small. -- Ned Scott 02:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also got to thinking, in having more than one possible layout, we should have a guideline for very small lists, ones that don't have a summary or image.  A good example can't come to mind at the moment, but I'm sure there are many lists were it would be a mess to encourage summaries for each episode entry. Game-shows come to mind, but I don't really think they should even have a list with each "episode", as they don't really have... "episodes". Just a thought. -- Ned Scott 03:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  /structure 

message: I just noticed how nice the cell shading was done for the row that contains title and air date in The Simpsons season 4. It really helps to visually separate the information and makes it easier to read. Maybe we should apply this to our style guidelines and templates? -- Ned Scott 20:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah looks nice. I'm all for it. - TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 22:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we might even be able to use the math function of templates to make this process easier.  Basically, it would take whatever value LineColor has, then lighten it. Now to see if I can get that to work.. -- Ned Scott 08:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've applied some very light cell shading to Template:Japanese episode list as a test.  Even though it's very subtle it seems to make an improvement.  Should we try this on Template:Episode list? I know the template is mixed with manual table code, like in List of South Park episodes, so we might want to at least manually enter the shading in the normal wiki code for consistency on those articles. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 05:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and applied it to Episode list as well, and I manually put in the shading for the other episode entries on the South Park list so they'd keep their consistency, being a featured list and all. -- Ned Scott 01:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cell shading 

message: I think we should strive to keep the same names for the parameters of the templates where possible. Also we should probably make some comments on things like "Guest stars, directors, writers etc.". Personally i prefer the way Grey's Anatomy and Simpsons Season 4 do this. It's much more readable then having it in seperate columns. - TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 22:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, although for the Japanese episode list that was basically my reason for making its own template, to make parameter names that would be easily understood what they were for.  I think there's a way to make more than one parameter name equal the same parameter, which would make it so that there wouldn't be a need for a separate template like Japanese episode list, and even if you moved the parameters to another template they'd still work.  But yeah, I agree, this making consistent use of parameter names will allow episode list data to be applied to many different templates without needless editing. -- Ned Scott 06:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parameter compatibility

message: Hi, one of your project's leaders made a comment on the page List of Stargate SG-1 episodes.  I would just like to say that I have responded and made a proposal that I think you will like.  Please respond on the SG-1 list's talk page; we should keep the thread in one place.  Tobyk777 08:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Response to comment

message: I was thinking we should evaluate the categories we have right now and see if there's any possible restructering / renaming / etc.  Also, we should probably note a bit more as some form of guideline, even just a short one on the main project page, about how to select the appropate category.   Here's a list of our current categories:
*:Category:Lists of television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of animated television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of anime television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of anthology television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of children's television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of comedy television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of crime television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of drama television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of dramedy television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of fantasy television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of nonfiction television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of reality television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of science fiction television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of sitcom television series episodes
:*:Category:Lists of soap opera episodes
:*:Category:Lists of variety television series episodes
and there you have it. If anyone hasn't already done so, be sure to read / skim through Wikipedia:Categorization when coming up with suggestions and ideas. -- Ned Scott 09:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: See Wikipedia:Fair use/Fair use images in lists for a request for comment about the use of fair use images in lists. This RFC arose out of a dispute about the use of images on list of Lost episodes and has grown beyond that article to have broader significance for lists generally. Please join the discussion if you are interested in this issue. --bainer (talk) 05:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use images in lists 

message: At List of Justice League episodes,we have an editor who wants to split all of the episodes off at once into their own articles. Unfortunately for him, the majority of editors has asked him not to create so many stubs at once, saying that the current page should be expanded before we go to individual episodes. Despite several Wikipedia bans over the last month, this editor refuses to listen, is uncivil toward the editors who do not agree with him, and continuously splits of articles and reverts the current one dispute consensus being against it. He is now seeking support at a number of other TV articles. This has gone on far too long. I have asked as a compromise that he add the information he wants to add to the current article so that it will expand enough to split off. I would appreciate it if editors from here came and provided some guidance one way or the other because I have never seen one editor rage against a number of other editors and revert their edits for so long.--Chris Griswold 06:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This looks like a headache... but agreed.  This is one editor forcing his flawed logic on others.  LOE is in need of writing up and adopting such guidelines for the whole article -> ep list -> ep article, evolution, looks like now is a good time to come up with a draft, and maybe those rationales will help the JL issue as well. -- Ned Scott 07:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much. I have been working to organize WP:COMICS and would like to help out here as well. --Chris Griswold 08:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Justice League episodes

message: I've placed a notice using  in regards to the current RFC about fair use images in Lists of episodes. Normally I'd be against using a WikiProject banner for posting this type of notice, but I feel the issue is very important to our WikiProject, and will effect many articles that we are involved with.  For the sake of informing other editors, this seemed to be a good idea.  The message can easily be removed, and is very efficient in informing many effected articles and editors with little effort.  I don't think this is something we should make a habit of, in any case, but feel this is a special case.  -- Ned Scott 04:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, considering the discussions really aren't making any new/ drastic grounds, and it doesn't seem like a consensus will be forming anytime soon, I've removed the notice from the WikiProject banner template. I think we should still have a notice of it (such as the manual banner on the top of this talk page) and definitely still keep track of the debate. The issue doesn't seem as urgent right now, or at least, in a sense that it would require a major notice such as this to be constantly displayed for more than a month. -- Ned Scott 11:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using our WikiProject banner for a notice 

message: Please tell me if this is not the right place to being this up:
I like the boxes at the top of some episode lists such as List of The Simpsons episodes, since they are a summary that links you to the appropriate season and provide some extra information about DVD releases on the same page. Having DVD release dates and cover art there isn't entirely necessary in my opinion but that's a minor quibble, it doesn't take up much room to have that there.
What I am against is the massive expansion of this on some pages to have a great long explanation of which episodes are on which DVD sets, such as the pages on Family Guy, the word "summary" has actually been changed to "DVD releases" because there's so much DVD info there, plus the information in this cases is not presented very well anyway. Some shows (including Family Guy) have their own pages for discussing DVD information, and in my opinion even if there isn't it should go on the article's main page. Can I confirm that it's not good practice to have a summary box like this? It's an episode list after all, not a list of DVDs. I thought I'd seen a couple of other pages where there was a lot of DVD stuff in the sumary box but I can't put my finger on them now Jimbow25 18:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a tough one. I would say that information does belong somewhere. Maybe it should at least be reduced to two sentances at most just like the episode summaries. The List of Family Guy episodes could probably use a wider table.--Will2k 19:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD release information at the top of each page

message: Hi. I've done some refactoring work on your Project's categories and templates today (along with several other WikiProjects). I'm confident you'll find that the new organisation a big improvement. For more information and a rationale please see what I've written at Wikipedia:WikiProject/Best_practices#Categorisation or drop me a line on my talk page.
If you're not yet assessing articles for Wikipedia 1.0 and using Mathbot, you might also find Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index of subjects and it's talk page very useful. --kingboyk 17:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's terrific, thanks!--Will2k 19:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorisation work 

message: Currently we've been formatting episodes by air date, but I noticed that List of Justice League episodes does it by title/ story. Basically, instead of splitting the entries by Part one, part two, etc, they did that.  Depending on the nature of the show, and maybe some other factors, I can see this as a good idea.  What does everyone think? -- Ned Scott 20:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it with one episode (row) per air date.--Will2k 17:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  episodes by title 

message: I made the background of the ShortSummary cell white, to help the tables not look so dark. This has also made more contrast between the shading of the Title row.  Thoughts? good? bad? -- Ned Scott 20:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more template tweeks 

message: I'm not sure why this hasn't been included in either of the templates, but I've included the ability to set a caption that will appear as tooltip on the images. --TheFarix (Talk) 17:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. -- Ned Scott 22:11, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ImageCaption 

message: Just noticed this now, but apparently there's been some discussion about Wikipedia:List guideline (see Wikipedia talk:List guideline) about reforming the basic guidelines for lists and list articles.  A proposal has come out of that discussion, Wikipedia:List guidelines reborn and will be discussed on Wikipedia talk:List guidelines reborn.  I haven't looked at it in depth myself yet, but I thought I'd pass the word. -- Ned Scott 05:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia's list guidelines 

message: The episode list for this is severely lacking. Could the members here please lavish some care onto it? Ta. --Jamdav86 20:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you think it needs? --Chris Griswold 06:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batman: The Animated Series 

message: TrackerTV has created a barnstar proposal relating to Broadcasting. I would really appreciate it if interested people could give an opinion here.--Ed 20:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment:This barnstar may be used in assoiation with your WikiprojectEd 21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need an opinion 

message: People are taking consensus against the conventions in this page. Votes are needed to keep the work up in that page. These people (I think most of them don't even get any work done on the article, just criticize) don't want neither expand the synopsis on the episode list nor create articles per episode and it happens in most cases. --T-man, the wise 06:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, this is more something for WP:TV, as it involves both LOE and WikiProject Television episodes.  So far the two daughter projects, LOE and TE, have not directly collaborated on how to grow this information, although it has been suggested that such collaboration would be helpful. Basically, you are looking for a consensus that has not yet been reached by this project. Currently, as a daughter project of WP:TV, we simply follow Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes. -- Ned Scott 06:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: heh, thanks for the tip. You don't follow the centralized discussion, read it again.--T-man, the wise 07:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In what way does LOE not follow the centralized discussion? -- Ned Scott 08:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I was talking in general LOE is ok. The consensus against a convention is kinda weird.--T-man, the wise 22:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Justice League episodes 

message: Just thought I'd note here that we're playing around the ability to link to specific episode entries, same way the # article-section links work, at Template talk:Episode list#Page anchors. We're also looking to make the optional parameters more efficient and solving the problem of what to do when you have an optional parameter that isn't filled out at Template talk:Episode list#Empty Cells. -- Ned Scott 05:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the topic of the templates, I just did a quick count and there are about 93 different episode lists (including both standalone and embedded) that are using the templates! Totaled from , , , and . -- Ned Scott 03:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template stuff 

message: Hello, Could you please add your opinion (or voice your support or a opposition) at this page.
It could decide the fate of colours in not only episode infoboxes but, nav boxes, celeb boxes.. (The bars in between episodes guides..) etc. MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 10:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or it could be just about one isolated issue, which is basically all that has been discussed so far. --Chris Griswold 11:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually isnt about one issue. MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 11:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backgrounds 

message: and other great stuff. I'm a bit tired right now, so sorry if my message seems a bit sloppy tonight. 
The problem of, say, having Aux1 for director, but then having an episode where it wasn't filled out would result in the cells shifting over. This is no longer a problem. Instead of the parameter being filled out being the trigger for the cell, now wether or not the parameter is listed in the template triggers the cell. Also, the colored line divider should now be IE compatible. And there's no more need for a "non image" template, any episode list that doesn't wish to use images (and wishes thus to not have a column for images) simply needs to remove the |Image= parameter from the template listing (the reverse of the above). Lists that don't wish to have images or summaries, and thus don't need a color divider only need to remove both |ShortSummary= and |Image=. Been reading up about templates and it finally hit me on how to fix those issues. 
These fixes are not live yet, they are only on my sandbox page. All of the episode lists (about 100 or so) need to be updated via bot (I can run mine) to remove unused parameters from being listed. The side effect of this fix is, if you don't have a column for "alt date" but you use |AltDate= then a cell will be created for Alt date. The bot will check for and remove such parameters which aren't being used (with a human inspecting each of the final results). Oh, and the Japanese episode list template will also be merged, but still keeping it's custom foreign title parameters (they'll just be equal to Title and AltTitle, etc).
The new template code that I've been playing around with is at User:Ned Scott/sandbox and examples can be seen at User:Ned Scott/sandbox2 (be sure to look at the page in the edit view to see what I mean).
Still have some more tweaks, and then run the bot through, which should actually be a simple process.  But I do want some other people to look at it incase I missed anything (which I probably did, like I said, I'm a bit tired right now :)  ) and give their inputs and such.  Also, be sure to look at the examples in other web browsers and see if you can spot any compatibility issues. Again, any input, feedback, whatever is welcome. -- Ned Scott 09:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and everything except Title is optional now (heck, even Title could be optional, if we want, since there won't be an issue of optional parameters not popping up.) Also, the line color divider no longer is using an empty table row to make the color, but instead is using style=, so it should show up in IE now. Also, here's a list of the parameters:
 |EpisodeNumber=
 |EpisodeNumber2=
 |ProdCode=
 |Title=
 |AltTitle=
 |Aux1=
 |Aux2=
 |OriginalAirDate=
 |AltDate=
 |Image=
 |ImageSize=
 |ImageCaption=
 |ShortSummary=
 |LineColor=
 |TopColor=
Example of minimal parameter use:
 |EpisodeNumber=
 |Title=
 |OriginalAirDate=
Tyipical use:
 |EpisodeNumber=
 |Title=
 |OriginalAirDate=
 |Image=
 |ShortSummary=
So to keep the instructions simple, I think the basic parameters should be introduced first, then show the extra options such as the colors, sizes, aux cells, etc. Oh yeah, and there's now |TopColor= so people can change the shading of the title row if they want, like what is seen on The Simpsons (season 2). -- Ned Scott 09:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Nice work.  I was looking at the examples here and the one that says "Nothing is filled out for Image or ShortSummary, but because they are there the template will format places for them to show that they should be filled in" seems to have its "#" out of place. - Peregrinefisher 19:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also,  is showing up in the ShortSummary box if "|ShortSummary=" is left out. - Peregrinefisher 20:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Alright, the problem with the TopColor is fixed now. The only "issue" left is the use of English colors as well as hex value colors. -- Ned Scott 20:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  un-filled parameters are no longer an issue 

message: now redirects to , which has been updated using the sandbox template (with some more updates). Everything seems to work, but the line color divider looked really.. bad.. with some of the lighter colors. I changed it back to using the old line divider to the time being, not sure if we should find another way or just update the articles with light colors. I updated all the articles that used unused parameters, and there seemed to be no major issues. Most won't even notice a difference :)
Also, when there is no |Image=, the template swings around the episode number to the left hand side as it did with , but in doing so now |TopColor= or it's default (or a manual entry of color for that first row) won't work at all when it is in a no-image state.  As you can see from the edit history, it was driving me nuts last night, and I still can't seem to find the issue. The template is a bit hard to follow right now, it's not all nicely indented and such, but you should be able to see what I mean.  And I still haven't figured out why using the # sign in a parameter messes it up (an old problem), which prevents us from using spelled out color values such as "blue" (as it would result in bgcolor="#blue" instead of ="blue"). If you are wondering why it has an if-statement for that color, it's so that lists without summaries or images can be presented without color options or a color line (a "simple" mode, of sorts).
Instructions have been updated a little bit, but in general could probably be updated to be more easier to follow. So that's where I'm at. I haven't gone through the articles that use unused parameters for  yet, so they're still using the old template. When it's all said and done they'll all be using one template, while still being able to use specific parameters when there is a large demand for them. -- Ned Scott 19:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work.  I was looking at the examples here and the one that says "Nothing is filled out for Image or ShortSummary, but because they are there the template will format places for them to show that they should be filled in" seems to have its "#" out of place. - Peregrinefisher 19:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also,  is showing up in the ShortSummary box if "|ShortSummary=" is left out. - Peregrinefisher 20:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Alright, the problem with the TopColor is fixed now. The only "issue" left is the use of English colors as well as hex value colors. -- Ned Scott 20:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: new template stuff now live

message: Am I right in saying that listings of shows having aired on a particular programming block as: S.C.I.F.I. World and Cartoon Quest for the Sci Fi Channel, would not be covered by this WikiProject? DrWho42 04:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, basically, the reason we have this WikiProject is because there's enough work that is episode-list-related to split off from other tv-related articles.  It all falls under WikiProject Television, and this is a daughter group of that project, so it's simply a matter of organization. WP:LOE is an attempt to find a common, useful, and consistent style layout for lists of episodes, so it would seem that it's only for episodes and not all TV-related lists, at least for the time being. However, some form of consistent listing styles for TV related articles might not be a bad idea, but I don't think it's been explored yet by a TV WikiProject. -- Ned Scott 04:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Television programming blocks. 

message: Since there's not a lot of episode list-specific activity, I was wondering maybe we should "merge" ourselves back with our parent project, WikiProject Television. Pretty much the main reason for LOE was to come up with a style-guideline for lists of episodes. We could merge some of our pages to WP:TV and then set up a dedicated sub-page with it's own talk page. I think we should do the same with WikiProject Television episodes. There's a lot of ideas and such that I've wanted to bring up, but it can be hard because they cross into a few different areas, including lists of episodes. Better integration with our parent project would still allow us to do all the things we've been doing independently, but allow for easier collaboration and make things easier to find. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 20:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What I like about having seperate projects is that when someone says episode pages or list of episodes pages aren't notable and tries to delete them, I can say there's a whole project devoted to them.  I think part of a projects purpose is to show that a significant number of wikipedians find a subject worthy of inclusion in an online encyclopedia.  I would support merging except I think it would give ammunition to the deletionists.  It might even open up the whole debate again.  This could be wrong though, maybe the inclusionist position would be strengthened by the larger numbers of WikiProject TV members. - Peregrinefisher 18:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't say having a WikiProject is a good argument to keep anything (as a reason alone, that is). If there is a good argument against deletion then it should be able to stand on it's own. That being said, we can still use such an argument for a "task force" style sub-project, in that the number of participants interested specifically in Lists of episodes will still be maintained, etc. We'll also probably be able to keep better track of deletions and deletion rationales as a more centralized group. -- Ned Scott 20:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge / become taskforce / work group of WikiProject TV? 

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replies: text: Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 13:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Directory 

message: Wikipedia talk:Fair use/Fair use images in lists is revived, this time for a concrete proposal. The talk page has been dead for a while, but I have archived it and taken a new fresh start. I hope this time we will be able to achieve something as I have summarized the main points of both sides (feel free to improve them) and I call you to express your support or oppose on the proposal that I have formulated. Thanks, Renata 02:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use images in lists

message: *The Desert Fox - Erwin Rommel.  I am not being flip, but The Rat Patrol was a long-running American TV show with a long repeat footprint set in North Africa during World War II; where does something like this fit in categorically? posted by McTrixie
We received this suggestion for military history in the Sahara/Sahel region. Well, it is no actual military history event, but a TV series. I think you know better how to handle it. Greetings Wandalstouring 13:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And a companion category would be something like 'movies about African military history', in addition to 'fictional books about African military history'.  Like the movie Zulu, for instance. --McTrixie 01:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  From African military history 

message: What do we do when the episode list gets too long?  For example, List of Smallville episodes has over 115 summaries and screenshots.  Other pages have way more.  Do we devide it into ~100 per page, or what?  Thanks, Peregrinefisher 05:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've wondered this myself as well. Dividing it might be where we need to go. List of The Simpsons episodes uses a system that excludes the screenshots and summary for the complete listing, but includes them on list that is done per season. This would also help the situation we have with our template having a limit of being used about 200 times in a single article. Not sure if all should be done per season or per number of episodes. -- Ned Scott 06:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That Simpsons page is 63 kilobytes long, so even without screenshots and summaries, it's too big.  We need a system that will keep pages within a reasonable page size, and allow people to find the pages their looking for.  I'll throw out an idea: create multiple pages and use a table of contents similar to List of One Piece episodes. - Peregrinefisher 06:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode list gets too long 

message: I forgot to note this here on the talk page for anyone who missed it, but List of The Sopranos episodes is now  a Featured list. -- Ned Scott 19:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh wow, cool, good going, people :) Illyria05 (Talk • Contributions) 22:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of The Sopranos episodes is a featured list 

message: There is currently an active debate at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television) about the naming of episode articles, such as when is it appropriate to use a suffix such as (<series name> episode), and whether or not WikiProjects should have the right to set guidelines for their particular shows.  Any interested editors are invited to comment, at Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (television)#Request for comment. Thanks. --Elonka 08:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment - naming of episode articles

message: Beginning cross-post.
:See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 23:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stablepedia 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: I've created an RFC to work out the details involved in making useful filmography sections.  Check it out at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Filmography. - Peregrinefisher 21:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmography RFC 

message: I've recently nominated List of Only Fools and Horses episodes for a peer review. Any comments and suggested improvements will be much appreciated. Thanks. SteveO 19:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Only Fools and Horses

message: List of Charmed episodes could do with some colour to match the DVD cases, much like The Simpsons' list has. Could anyone more familiar with doing this lend a hand? ~ZytheTalk to me! 13:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour 

message: How does one add items to the "To Do" list contained within the LOE box on the article's talk page (in this case the List of Farscape episodes)?  Feel free to answer on my talk page RoyBatty42 20:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's at: Wikipedia:WikiProject List_of_Television Episodes/to-do.  The way to find templates that are included in a page is click "edit this page" and at the bottom of the page, all the templates transcluded are listed. - Peregrine Fisher 22:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I think you might be looking WP:TODO Jay32183 03:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accessing LOE to do list box

message: List of RahXephon media is a Featured List Candidate. Disucssion here: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of RahXephon media. --GunnarRene 22:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of RahXephon media is a Featured List Candidate

message: Is there any reason why two part episodes have to be in the same article?
Just because they share the same title does not mean that they are the same.
Doing this means a lot more information in the info box. 
Eg:
This is from the info box from the episode Kill Ari episodes of NCIS </br>
  
If it was on separate pages you would not have to specify who wrote and directed each part and you would not have two separate air dates.
It is not necessary to have them on the same page. 
If you will see other shows such as Charmed, House and even Buffy the Vampire Slayer have two part episodes on separate pages.
Mhrmaw 10:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a requirement. Usually it's better readable. If it's not, then there is no point in putting them on the same page. TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 13:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The recommendation about combining them is for continuous plots. That is, it was really one episode that was twice as long as usual. If the two episodes are actually distinct entities then go ahead and separate them. Jay32183 18:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Part Episode