Talk:Tony Lagouranis

message: Someone added a "special note" saying that the reference article does not contain the terms "anal" or "sodomy."  This is certainly true, but the article does describe how the hypothermic interrogation treatment often involved tracking the subject's body temperature via a rectally-inserted thermometer.  This means that, against a person's will and without any medical necessity, interrogators would forcibly insert an object into the detainee's anus.  This is anal sodomy.--BlackberryLaw 20:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If the intent was to ensure the subject's core temp didn't drop to dangerous levels, it would be medically necessary.  This doesn't address why the subject would be that cold.  Nor can I think of any interrogational benefit to hypothermia.  Which doesn't mean it wasn't done--haven't read the book so can't state an opinion on that.Mzmadmike (talk) 12:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Special Note"

message: In the main article, second paragraph:  I would like some links to where this information is being corroborated.  Of course, this is for my own satisfaction, since this is the fist time I have come across information regarding thermometers and actual anal penetration.  The article at hand mentions other sources that are not listed and I would like some factual data to cross reference in my own studies in this matter.
jerry.mills 19:40, 17 January 2006 (PST)
Try this link to an Esquire magazine article: http://www.esquire.com/cgi-bin/printtool/print.cgi?pages=5&filename=%2Ffeatures%2Farticles%2F2006%2F060706_mfe_August_06_Conscience.html&x=59&y=12   --Wojay 00:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corroboration 

message: No sources are provided for the criticisms of Lagouranis, which aim at character assassination. Rose Selavy 11:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that was true. No need to wait before removing such material, in fact, as stated in the box regarding living person biographies we need to do so promptly. I'd hoped to get some idea of both sides of the debate, as I knew there would be counter claims, yet all I read were insults about his hygiene and totally untraceable "confidential rebuttals" - apparently told to the editor who added them rather than in print, which qualifies them as orig. research as well. I removed the vandalism. --Fitzhugh 01:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV dispute 

message: As I recall from the text of Fear up Harsh, he actualy did not use a thermometer, nor participated in inducing hypothermia, except through exposure. He does talk about the thermometer being used by the SEAL team in Mosul though. (StarkeRealm (talk) 12:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rectal Thermometer 

message: Lagouranis was a 35 year old E4.  And with a college education?  That alone should lead people to question his claims.  An enlistee with a BA/BS would enter the Army as an E3, or even an E4 if he possessed a sought-after academic background, and would be expected to rapidly make E5 especially during time of war.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.154.20 (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  35 year old Army Specialist? 

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