Talk:Aeneas

message: The Dardains are in fact the troyans, Dardano is consideres the first father of the troyans 
sometimes greeks used the name of the founder to name the citicens, even tougth the founder's name is not the same as the city (for example Tebes wich founder is cadmus, people were often called cadmeus ot Atenas wich it's founder was cecrope)
:A Dardanian was one whose family was from Dardanus as opposed to being from anywhere else in the Troad region or Asia Minor. Dardanus was apart of the Trojan kingdom, but Dardanians were both Dardanian and Trojan. Kind of like how an American from Virginia is both a Virginian and an American Psychotic Spartan   07:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dardains = Troyans 

message: The article states that "[he] founded of the city that would one day become Rome". I thought he founded the Roman people, and that Romulus and Remus founded the city itself, or am I being silly? Are the two legends even compatable? --Oldak Quill 16:43, 1 Jun 2005 (UT
::Aeneas merged with the Latin race and Romulus and Remus would later descend from him. --Must WIN 01:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have the "Italian sources," by all means, put the information in.  That's what Wiki is for.  WBardwin 23:33, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legendary role? 

message: A vandal made this change to the article.  The article now says Aeneas is the cousin of Priam (in the first paragraph) and the son of Priam (in the second paragraph).  Interestingly, the Priam article makes no mention of Aeneas.  Can someone resolve this? -- Cjensen 22:15, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to [[Priam]] (vandalism?) 

message: Er, should it be noted that Aeneas's name in Virgil is often coupled with the adjective pius, which translates as "dutiful Aeneas" or "Aeneas, duty-bound"? And that in the Iliad, he was saved from death-by-Achilles by Neptune, and that the reason given was his 'dutifulness'? It sort of ties into why he would be chosen as a mythological founder of Rome, what with Roman values and stuff like that. 169.229.121.94 04:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'piety' in the Greek/Roman world implied more than respect for the Gods and religious observance.  It focused on the heirachy of the family and community as well.  Aeneas was a 'dutiful' son - showing piety (respect) in the care of his aged father.  WBardwin (talk) 02:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutiful Aeneas - should this be included? 

message: (The following moved from article page for discussion about inclusion.  WBardwin 23:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Corresponding Indian Legend 

message: Is this myth, which involves Aeneas's journey into the Underworld, included in the article?
~Divya da animal lvr [not logged in].  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.163.234 (talk) 02:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aeneas, the Sybil, and The Golden Bough 

message: What's with the bogus pronunciation?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.176.212 (talk) 18:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luwian_language#.22Luwian.22_place_names_in_Italy
Aeneas was a Trojan hero. & The Trojans = Luwians! more:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luwian_language#Luwian_Gods_and_Goddesses Böri (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Luwian" place names in Italy 

message: While the article technically cites some "references", they are all from classical antiquity. It is in dire need of some modern scholarship. For example, Hans von Kamptz' Homerische Personennamen (Göttingen 1982), pp. 380-382, seems to disagree with the etymology given in the article. Huon (talk) 10:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: In Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand, Aeneas is depicted as being Kassandra's brother-in-law, husband of her sister Creusa, and later her lover.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.3.252.178 (talk) 09:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there's a secondary source mentioning Bradley's depiction, that seems hardly significant enough for the article. Huon (talk) 11:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioned in literature 

message: I don't think the article deals with the ancient sources to the extent that it should.  It does make clear that the Trojan mythological material comes from Homer, but from then on it jumps to Virgil, who lived almost one thousand years later that Homer and wrote as a poet commissioned by Augustus to provide Rome with a suitably grand mythological past.  The article does not make it at all clear if Virgil himself had any sources to embellish upon, or wrote by poetic license out of his own imagination.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.132.65 (talk) 01:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That family tree is actually Template:Trojan race; I've removed the kings of Rome. Thanks! Huon (talk) 23:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient sources 

message: It isn't clear from this article what the sources are for his family tree.  I assume that there are well-documented mythological sources.  Can someone provide a reference?  If I don't get a reference to the source for the family tree, I will post a Request for Comments asking for the source, so that a bot will ask random editors to weigh in.  Thank you for any comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I referenced the family section in the article. As for the family tree I'm not sure how to reference a template (e.g. whether to reference it here or on the relevant template page). Psychotic Spartan   12:08, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for Family Tree