Talk:Zygmunt Bauman

message: "Zygmunt Bauman (born 19 November 1925 in Poznań - died 02 Febraury 2010 in Edinburgh) is a Polish sociologist who, since 1971, has resided in England after leaving Poland in 1968. He lost the tenure in Warsaw University due to anti-Semitic campaign carried out by the ruling communist party(PZPR)which he was a member. After that he and his wife decided to emigrate." Dariusz Rosiak, "Bauman". Pub. Mando, 2019, p. 256, ISBN 978-83-2771-734-4
Quote from his first biography cited in ref.: "The wife replied: «Do you realize what you are saying? I understand that you have noble intentions but do you imagine that you will have to hide Jewish children again? Here in Warsaw? ». That evening we decided to emigrate from Poland."
Somnambulik44 (talk) 12:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Citations are never a bad idea, although in this case what you're asking about is common knowledge. Whether or not this biographical information needs to be in the introduction, is another matter. I tend to say it's dispensable, but as it clarifies the tricky issue of Polish-Jewish-British identity, there may be a case for it. (By the way, if I recall this correctly, he also had an offer to teach in Canberra, so he may have ended up being Polish-Jewish-Australian instead. ;))--Thorsten1 (talk) 11:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: I'm just wondering if, in light of Zygmunt Bauman's own discussion on Identity in the book, whether it is right to include such a clear national identity for him in the page. He discusses at length his own deliberations about his identity and concludes that he will not disclose fully his beliefs about it, and that it is almost of minor importance - so maybe the opening to the article should reflect this and refer more he his identity as a sociologist, and if need be to his sociology being in the british tradition?
Acidsaturation 14:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Identity 

message: No explicit treatment of Bauman's extensive work on the 'liquid' aspects of modernity in the economy, career, and relationships? How can this be??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.41.7.94 (talk) 23:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liquid Modernity 

message: It's written like it was taken directly out of some random book by some random post modern author. What I mean to say is: it's written in an unnecessaraly complicated way. I find it tough to read that, specially considering english is not my mother language.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.8.99.126 (talk) 18:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone please simplify "Bauman's Postmodernity" section 

message: In response to the above criticism (which, frankly, was quite justified - and I think I must take the blame for some of it!) I've tried to re-write Bauman's 'work' section more clearly and chronologically. I've still got what I replaced saved if anyone's got problems with the new version. The new bit doesn't talk at all about Bauman's moral theory as the old on did, so I may try to add a section on that (it's one of the more complex aspects of his thought, so it might get a bit technical). There probably needs to be a bit more on consumerism too, which I'll endeavor to add.
PS. Re. The whole 'Bauman in the secret police' controversy: is it necessary to have such lengthy references to it? It all seems rather nebulous to me, but maybe I'm wrong...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.124.65 (talk) 14:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearup and simplification 

message: What does he have to say, as a Marxist Socialist, about the collapse of Communism that occurred twenty years ago?Lestrade (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bauman has written extensively on the nature of socialism/communism and its collapse throughout his work. One of the essays devoted exclusively to this topic is "Communism: a postmortem" in Intimations of Postmodernity (1992). Please read up on it and add what you find useful. Don't ask what Wikipedia can do for you, but what you can do for Wikipedia! ;) --Thorsten1 (talk) 10:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Communism

message: According to the publisher Demos, the publication date of "Alone Again - Ethics After Certainty" is 1994-01-01 and not 1996. --Baolog (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography - Books by Bauman - Leeds period - Alone Again 

message: Or whatever, per this Haaretz article: Polish-Jewish sociologist compares West Bank separation fence to Warsaw Ghetto walls. FYI CarolMooreDC (talk) 14:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What's controversial about that? Common sense and stating the obvious. 199.127.253.168 (talk) 20:53, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidently a recent vandal disagreed. :-( CarolMooreDC (talk) 03:28, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy section?

message: I don't have a strong feeling about whether or not to include them. But I do know it is inappropriate to make bigoted sounding statements in edit summaries and would encourage people to refrain since that is against wikipedia policy. Polite discussion of the topic can happen here. CarolMooreDC 18:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Pope's comments

message: should you not write somthing that he influnced or used as some of the big emeperic proven writer abut globalzation ? like Saskia Sassen ,manuel castells  (linkes to the writes abut secondar lirturae abut this guy?)becuse they take his ideas and prove them  whit data and make it less like a a books abut ideas more abut prove facts  maybe link to sobody that have the oposit wiews ? (beck ?transhumansim?)becuse he is a very evrything new is bad kind of thinker and dont have many soutiolion i mean look at poltical sections in wikipedia they linkj to foks that have difrent wiews of the topic 82.147.33.187 (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  influnced 

message: For WPPOLAND: failed. Reason: quick fail due to insufficient density of inline references, numerous unreferenced paragraphs. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:00, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-class review 

message: Best, Shaun (2013) Zygmunt Bauman: Why Good People Do Bad Things, Farnham, Ashgate
Shaun Best (talk) 11:50, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. If you have future requests like this, please provide all the details required for the book in question. I had to go hunt for the ISBN. --Stfg (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add book reference to section on Books about Bauman 

message: It's interesting that Bauman was a "collaborator" as early as "1939-1941", i.e. at a time when he was 14 to 16 years (just)... I mean, the least you could expect from Polish Jewish children who just made it out of the country before the Germans got hold of them, would be joining the resistance movement in the country that effectively saved their lives, right? Certainly simply going to school there constitutes a despicable act of "collaboration". But maybe Bauman is much older and did not only "lie about his age to work longer and secure a pension", as Dr Shaun Best of Manchester University subtly implies, but also to cover up his role as one of Stalin's toughest "collaborators"... Then again, that label may tell us more about whoever put there than about Bauman, but who am I to decide? --Thorsten1 (talk) 13:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I was a teenage 
Frankenstein
 'Polish collaborator with the Soviet Union'"!

message: Query regarding publication location.
From the article-
1988: Freedom. Philadelphia: Open University Press. 
Open University Press as of 2001 was published in Philadelphia PA US and Buckingham UK.  Before being acquired in 2002 by McGraw Hill Financial.
I have seen this book as being published in Milton Keynes though.Jonpatterns (talk) 13:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book reference query 

message: What is the role of David Lehmann? Something perished.Xx236 (talk) 06:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.academia.edu/15031047/Problematic_Elements_in_the_Scholarship_of_Zygmunt_Bauman Xx236 (talk) 07:01, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

text: This is the original critics. The page quotes a Polish language blog instead. Xx236 (talk) 09:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:   A detailed critique of Walsh and David Lehmann  

message: Nach dreijährigem Aufenthalt in Israel siedelte die Familie 1971 nach Großbritannien über.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.41.3.21 (talk) 10:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  1968 

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message: The are no sources that indicate a anti-semitic campaign. Just because many internal critics of the regime where Jewish, does not make them anti-communist, so expelling Jewish critics does not in turn make the authorities automatically anti-semitic! Get it. So if no sources, no valid claim.IBestEditor (talk) 14:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: 1968 Polish political crisis - both political and anti-semitic.Xx236 (talk) 10:52, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-semitic campaign or just a political purge? 

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message: Book Review: Of God and Man by Zygmunt Bauman and Stanislaw Obirek  
Bauman and Obirek explore their differences as well as their separate paths to agnosticism.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2015/12/11/book-review-of-god-and-man-by-zygmunt-bauman-and-stanislaw-obirek/
ReinoLeino (talk) 04:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category - Polish agnostics