Talk:Communist Party of Britain

message: User:217.158.116.234 wrote: 
At the last general election in 2001 the CPB ran six candidates whose total vote came to 1,003.
Is there a source for this? DJ Silverfish 20:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in the process of collating the election results from 2010 with sources from the electoral commission. If anyone has details on the candidates who stood in 2005 that would be great. Extua (talk) 10:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

text: 2010 and 2005 done. Extua (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral results 

message: I created this Userbox for any supporters to put on their user page.

Willy turner 05:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a online encyclopedia, not a political party drive. Highcount. 12:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: They should rename themselves Communist Party of GREAT Britain seeing as BRITAIN includes Ulster! It's very offensive that a so-called British party does not consider Ulster British. A seperate party for each of the main islands in the British Isles is nonsense anyway particularly how small each one of the parties is. One party to cover the whole of the British Isles is plenty. YourPTR! (talk) 16:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOAP. --Soman (talk) 16:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, actually Britain, or Great Britain, doesn't include "Ulster".  The official name of our current state is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".  From a Communist perspective, Ireland, including the six counties in Northern Ireland, is covered by the Communist Party of Ireland.  But as is pointed out, Wikipedia is not a soapbox... Grmdy (talk) 21:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

text: The UK (which "Britain" usually refers to) includes just 6 of Ulster's 9 counties. And even if you were right, it's completely irrelevant - unless you want "At least 1 Wikipedian feels that the party should be renamed" stuck in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.36.119 (talk) 17:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Innacurate Name 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:CPB Logo.gif

message: User: Political Dweeb is responsible for putting this edit into the CPB's policy on their position on religion. I just wanted to understand like any other person this political party's position on religion. Please tell me if this edit on this political party's position on religion needs improved in a way that is suitable. Hope someone replies thank you.
Political Dweeb (talk)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.235.228.121 (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated your edit for grammar.  Grmdy (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Political position edit

message: Areas of this page are a bit of a mess. Many of the references are now broken links, a simple fix. The party has also this year released a new version of its program "Britain's Road to Socialism" - this should be reflected, especially in the areas that reference party policy.
Other areas are merely out of date. The University section makes reference to events now 6 years old, surely more generic information is better for this section.
Similarly the publications section seems rather irrelevant - do we really need a list of pamphlets - this is an encyclopedia, not a shop. 
I am willing to do this work, but would like to know people's opinions before I begin. Olørin (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now updated the publications section. Extua (talk) 15:57, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Some revisions

message: Links had been added to Facebook. I've changed them as follows:
Removed the links to the Morning Star Facebook Group - these should be on the Morning Star page. Removed the link to the "old" Facebook group because it is old. Moved the link to the Facebook supporters group into the list of links and kept consistent styling. Olørin (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Facebook links

message: For simplicity's sake, although the Communist Party of Britain, whom operate within the Marxist-Leninist tradition, seek the creation of a socialist society (socialism), their ultimate aim is the withering away of the socialist state altogether and the consequent creation of a communist society (communism), therefore their ideology is Communism, not Socialism, as they do not wish to halt progress at the socialist stage (transitional stage), but wish for the full emancipation of the proletariat via the communist stage. Netsurfer123 (talk) 09:04, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideology: Socialism or Communism? 

message: Seems to contain a lot of information about the breakup of the CPGB rather than directly relevant information on the CPB. I'm thinking especially the stuff about the cpgb-ml and the NCP, this has nothing to do with the CPB.  Olørin (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: True, edit it out. Extua (talk) 10:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Done Olørin (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: The electoral information is relevant, but could be expanded. Will need to do research to get full figures for more elections. While size is important, I don't think "claimed membership in 2004" is very useful at all. Plus I've looked at other political parties and very few reveal financial information on Wikipedia - I don't see why we should Olørin (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've streamlined the membership information down to a table for now, and included a comment about branches. I will ask the office for more accurate information to fill in the missing years. Also, how many branches are there in total? Remove the financial information if you want as it's not so relevant. Extua (talk) 10:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

text: CPB candidates stood in elections recently so we could do with updating the election information. Unlike some parties on the left the CPB has a strong electoral history and that should be reflected in the article. Extua (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've updated the membership info with official figures - although these aren't published online and I'm still not sure about revealing them. Financial information tidied up to what is published in the electoral commission website. Don't have any electoral figures to hand and don't have the energy to compile them! Olørin (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there's anything particularly dangerous about the official membership figures, they should be public anyway, if it's a breach of information somehow then we can get rid of it. I've added the 2010 and 2005 general election results and plan to carry on with by-elections and local election results. Extua (talk) 21:52, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

text: The infobox information about the number of seats is given for the SWP and Respect too in the respective articles, as for the larger parties. Not everyone reading this article is going to be aware that the CP has no seats at all, so its important that this is clear. Philip Cross (talk) 09:24, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

text: The infobox changes were introduced to the SWP by User:CharlieChaz too. Perhaps it should just be clarified in the 'size and electoral information' section, rather than highlighted in the infobox. I don't consider it important to flag up the CPB's lack of seats, particularly as its work goes far beyond attempting to gain representation in bourgeois parliaments. Extua (talk) 10:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size and electoral information 

message: User:Garageland66 insists that a court case against the Electoral Commission has allowed the Communist Party of Britain to simplify its name to the Communist Party. Despite the obvious interest such a battle would gain in the mainstream press or in the left blogs, I cannot find any online sources confirming this development. The mentions in the media during the election were to the CPB, not the Communist Party, and the Electoral Commission still maintains that the party's name is the Communist Party of Britain. Philip Cross (talk) 10:17, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it makes sense to alter the name on Wikipedia, left activists commonly refer to it as just the Communist Party. Other parties on Wikipedia also follow a similar naming format, eg. Labour Party (UK) or Socialist Party (England and Wales). Wit the Electoral Commission, as I understand it, the Communist Party is the only party allowed to use the description 'Communist Party' and the Hammer and Sickle symbol. Extua (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is usual on Wikipedia to make claims based on published third-party sources, not the say-so of an individual editor. Their is no available confirmation for what User:Garageland66 has said, apart from the change to the Communist Party of Britain's website, which may simply be unilateral. I checked for all registered parties termed Communist Party on the Electoral Commission's website, and of the three results, the Communist Party of Britain was the only one this article could possibly refer to. The website may have a backlog of updates, but the actual registration has not been changed. Philip Cross (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

text: Why has this article been renamed to Communist Party (UK) rather than Communist Party (Britain)?   For good or ill, the terms UK and Britain refer to different geographical areas, and this Party is still focussed on the one defined by "Britain", not that defined by "the UK". The name change to drop an explicit Britain from the title was not some sudden annexing of the Marxists of Northern Ireland! Andy Dingley (talk) 23:48, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

text: The reason is that Wikipedia doesn't recognise Britain. It only recognises the United Kingdom. Hence Labour Party (UK), Conservative Party (UK) etc. (However, the Communist Party itself doesn't recognise the UK, does not recognise Northern Ireland and does not organise there.) Garageland66 (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 07:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Surely though WP doesn't "recognise" anything - it always works by reference to independent reliable sources. WP just does not get to define that "Britain doesn't exist, use UK instead". Andy Dingley (talk) 08:56, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

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message: Misclicked before I finished my edit summary once again. Regarding this edit, "socialism" is, in the context of the citation given, a reference to the socialist stage of society as envisioned by Karl Marx. The CPB is not a "socialist party", it is a communist party advocating for a transition to socialism and eventually communism. CentreLeftRight ✉ 00:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Socialism"