Talk:Paula Hitler

message: There have been multiple reports from individuals that Paula Hitler's marker and remains were quietly removed and replaced in June (2005). I haven't found any newswire stories, nor does there seem to be any explanation. I suspect the site was starting to get too many visitors (only my speculation)... the German government has long been aggressive about preventing the development of Hitler shrines. There could be a more mundane reason, for example the plot may have only been set aside for 45 years but I tend to think it's the former. Wyss 2 July 2005 13:48 (UTC)
:It is perfectly normal in Germany that the site of a grave is re-used for somebody else after one or two decades, unless it was paid for a longer time, which can be quite expensive on a German graveyard. Especially a city in the mountains, with limited space, could be quite expensive. As there were no relatives anyway, there is no reason why the tomb should stay for more than 20 years - or even 45. --Matthead 18:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grave

message: This is pure speculation on my part, but I imagine the exhumation of Paula's grave would have been carried out under conditions of great secrecy and with some degree of security. Nonetheless, I wonder if DNA obtained from any remains might yield a clue as to the identity of the grandfather she shared with her infamous brother. Would anyone be interested enough to do the research? It would surely be only of academic interest, but even so...
I also find it a rather odd co-incidence that these mysterious documents have appeared, apparently within weeks of the exhumation. Is there any proof that the documents are genuine? I still recall the fiasco of the so called "Hitler diaries" some years ago. Perhaps the time has come to stop looking. The subject's fascination cannot be denied, but it is surely time to move forward. TCH. UK.
:As many historians have already remarked, the question of which brother would only make AH's kinships more or less incestuous than they are already documented to be. It was likely Johann. Cousin marrying was the norm in small European villages (and early American colonial ones) for centuries at least. In 200,000 years as a species, people have been avoiding marrying their cousins for only a hundred years or so. As for that supposed typewritten diary, no verifiable provenance has been forthcoming and in its absence those claims might as well be added to the hundreds of other bits of codswallop some people and their publishers have dreamed up to sell books (or outlooks of any stripe). Gwen Gale 17:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks for bringing it up. Gwen Gale 16:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secrets from the grave 

message: The second part of this article is very confusing, reading like a WP:OR essay:
*"A German historian named Beierl did some research..." - citation, please!
*"Mr Beierl said:..." - where?
*"Confidential information learns that her husband owns the grave ... It is said he's an old SS-veteran." - Is this a parodical example on how not to provide WP:RS?
Unless this is cleaned up, it's probably better to delete it and start over. Sandstein 18:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very confused sourcing 

message: The following has been in the article for far too long without Ryback's and Beierl's claims being backed up by some verifiable provenance and peer review. It's one thing to come up with codswallop to flog a downmarket book, it's another to let it lurk in an article without a shred of independent support. I'm putting it here for further discussion, there's no evidence they found a diary. Gwen Gale 17:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: So far, it's unsupported

message: I added references I easily found via an external link on this article: http://uk.geocities.com/paulawolf@btinternet.com/index.html . Since I am a deletist eventualist, I wanted to make sure I acknowledge the link here. Flowanda | Talk 02:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source links 

message: According to the article, Paula was asked by Adolf Hitler to call herself Paula Wolff instead of Paula Hiedler. You use a site where she's interrogated June 5 1946, as reference (#2); https://web.archive.org/web/20041016203829/http://www.shoah.dk/Paula/page_6.htm
Well here's what the first few lines of the interrogation reads:
Case: Mrs. Paula Wolf (Paula Hitler, sister of the late Adolf Hitler)
Address: Alpenwirtschaft Vorderorand, Gemeinde Königsee (Kreis Berchtesgaden)
Particulars: Investigation ordered by Lt. Bronfen
Report: 1. Born Rauschergut, Gemeinde Fischelham, Kreis Lambach (Oberoesterreich) on 24th November 1896
2. Education: Volksschule and Lyzeum Linz
3. Party - membership before 1933: none
4. Party - membership during the Nazi regime: none
5. Party - membership today: none
6. Yesterday the undersigned was visiting Mrs. Paula Wolf in the Alpenwirtschaft Vorderbrand and got the following information from Mrs. Wolf concerning her life:
"I adopted my name Paula Wolf many years ago to avoid the interest of the public which was unwelcome to me. I am in possession of a passport with the name of Paula Wolf with the erroneously registered date of birth 21st November 1896. In fact I was born 8 months earlier. Until today I was not interested in a correction of the date of my birth, moreover it has never been necessary.
Four times it says Wolf, not Wolff. So why did someone undo my correction? If I'm wrong - pls. prove it!
Besserwissern (talk) 16:13, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the actual scan of the document, in which "Wolff" is used throughout.   Obviously a transcription error. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:15, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paula Wolff or Wolf? 

message: This talk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQUWJhDJPxw
entitled The Origins of Autism in Nazi Vienna, and centred around Hans Asperger's life and work, includes a photograph of Paula, and a story of her marriage. But I am not a historian and not motivated to research it further; I write this in case anyone reading it is. Nick Barnett (talk) 09:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage 

message: theo một số bài báo thì bà paula hitler là bà ngoại của cầu thủ bóng đá người ba lan robert Lewandowski. 113.185.45.126 (talk) 01:44, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bà ấy có liên quan tới cầu thủ bóng đá Robert Lewandowski không??? 

message: The 14 April 1945 was not part of “the closing days of the war.”, rather that was during the closing weeks of the war in Europe. I am of the belief that it would be more accurate and encyclopedic to update the second paragraph of the “Adult Life” section of the article. 2601:405:4000:1F50:3838:3ACA:511F:2F70 (talk) 20:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Adult Life”