Talk:Papal coats of arms

message: I read that once a pope dies, his coat of arms no longer has the keys... is this true? 68.175.27.35 07:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Popes COA

message: Shouldn't the blazons of the various coats of arms be listed on this page, instead of just showing images? -Agur bar Jacé (talk) 17:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Blazonings

message: : :Image:JohnXXIIICOA.jpg is being used on this article....
: :Image:BenedictXVCOA.jpg is being used on this article....
: :Image:LeoXIIICOA.jpg is being used on this article.... BetacommandBot (talk) 23:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale...

message: Hi, How does one know if these images are accurate?  There is This image which is different and a new user added this image now which he made by himself which is ornate and different from the usual 2 dimensional Vatican coat of arms images. How do we know which was Leo's coat of arms? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They're equally valid representations of the same concept, except that Liptak's comet looks too much like an estoile. —Tamfang (talk) 01:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy

message: sorry, I do not know the “cord fixing the keys” correct heraldic name: is it red, or gold? in fact, http://www.vaticanstate.va/IT/homepage.htm shows red cord, http://www.vatican.va/phome_ge.htm just shows b/w. by now, in article is given: CoA Pope gold, Vatican red, "emblem" both red --W!B: (talk) 17:49, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour of the cord 

message: It now turns out that strictly speaking there is no such thing as a "papal coat of arms". 
There is the personal coat of arms of the individual elected as pope, and as this individual he would continue using this just as before. Elected popes would not alter their personal coat of arms. If they were commoners, they would have adopted a coa upon their appointment as bishop, long before they knew they would become pope. 
It seems the only exception to this is Ratzinger, who as Benedict XVI ceased to use the coa he used as bishop and adopted a new one (with a design still based on the earlier one).
So it would seem there is one "papal coat of arms", designed in 2005, and all others are simply coats of arms of people who happened to be elected as pope. --dab (𒁳) 15:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In an earlier discussion I (mis)understood by "papal coat of arms" the arms of the Holy See, which I still think is a valid interpretation of the phrase.  The plural "papal coats of arms" is not so ambiguous, and can quite legitimately be applied to the coats of arms actually used by popes, whether specially invented or modified for that position or not.  I have commented above on the claim that Benedict XVI's arms are the only ones that have differed from what the same person used before becoming Pope.  Esoglou (talk) 17:15, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "papal coat of arms"

message: In the "Late Middle Ages and Renaissance" list of arms. When viewing the arms listed with it, the following description makes no sense. Also the note describes the arms well, and makes no reference to the below description.
*"Gules, a pale embattled counter-embattled argent, a chief azure (?)"
--Xavier (talk) 23:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coat of arms description 

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message: The blazon "Gules a lion rampant argent holding a castle triple-towered or." does not match the image next to it, the lion isn't argent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.48.194 (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blazon error? 

message: Lozengy azure and argent.	Lucius III (Ubaldo Allucingoli, 1181–1185)
A recent edit hid the image (thanks for not deleting it!) with the comment image shown has inverted colors (Loz. argent & azure).  I call that a distinction without a difference; what do others think? —Tamfang (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  lozengy