Talk:The Red Baron (2008 film)

message: You're kidding me --- how can anyone make a movie about Richthofen in 2006 and give the credit for killing him to Roy Brown? Instant rotten tomato status. Grant65 | Talk 15:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After 2 minutes of uniform opening credits over dead silence I hit the eject key so I didn't get to see the factual bloopers of that flick, but that all explains why it flopped badly. Does WP have a category for Z(zZz)-movies? :D213.39.222.125 (talk) 05:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Roy Brown

message: I noticed that it says Roy Brown "could not" have killed the Baron in this article, yet in Roy Brown's own article and the Red Baron's main article it says at most that it is "all but certain" that Sergeant Popkin fired the fatal shots and that it is "very unlikely" that Brown did. Furthermore, the article that is cited as a reference to this article's statement indicates innumerable times that the evidence is not clear enough to make a distinct, final decision as to who did the killing, stating that several authors proclaim the Australians did the deed and several authors re-claim that Brown did the deed. The article's concluding statement even says that, "it was therefore most probably Sergeant Popkin who fired the fatal shot"- pushing heavily for that view, certainly, but clearly not presenting an absolute, certain fact about the matter by any means. As such, I think the wording of the statement in this article violates NPOV and should be fixed ASAP.  Transego 06:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out the problems with those articles. It is clear that Brown didn't kill Richthofen. It is not know for certain who did, but it wasn't Brown. The references provided make it clear that Brown could not have fired the fatal shot. Grant | Talk 07:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm pretty sure the film doesn't portray that Brown killed Richthofen. Remember it's a drama, not a documentary, but having watched it three times now Richthofen's death isn't shown, and while the closing scene is of Kate & Brown together I'm sure it's not even hinted at who fired the fatal shot. For that reason I'm removing this statement from the plot synopsis.Yorkist (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Killed the Red Baron? Spencer Hoyt  

message: I removed the controversy section, as it appears to have been based entirely on a mistaken report from before anyone had actually seen the film.   The film doesn't show the baron's death, and says explicitly that it isn't known who killed him.  (Incidentally people would have been spared a lot of work on a section which ultimately turned out to be pointless if our film articles weren't all compilations of snippets from news reports, but that's a rather wider issue. ;) ) HenryFlower 16:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

message: This needs a criticisms section about the historical inaccuracies that the German Press complained about. 76.66.193.119 (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: Article states "The film also shows Werner Voss watching as Richtofen flies off on his last mission. In reality, Werner Voss was shot down in September of 1917, nearly 7 months before Richtofen." it's been while since i've seen it but I pretty sure the film correctly reports the death of Voss (while flying a Fokker triplane with a Bentley engine) while Richtofen is still alive.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.113.44 (talk) 19:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and I hadn't realised this bit was still in the article. Someone else has added a disagreement direct to the article page, so I'm removing the paragraph.Yorkist (talk) 13:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate inaccuracy? 

message: I notice that way to many films and such lack the section "Critical Response" (Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic)!
This film has 12% on RT just so it is said. 
Cmd.Sgt. Moskus 911th  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.39.129.33 (talk) 15:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical response and links 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support I am the nominator -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 06:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I don't saw this movie, but reading the plot here on Facebook I ask... where is Oswald Boelcke in this story??? I think it's a shame forget the main role of Oswald Boelcke in Richthofen's life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.137.233.223 (talk) 01:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  ... and Oswald Boelcke??? 

message: After reading these details, can some aficionado please explain how this German movie can have its production co-credited to the United Kingdom, United States, France and Czech Republic? 00:21, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production credit