Talk:German Spitz

message: The redirections to other languages are a bit in disarray, I'm afraid. We have:
* Spitz type
* German spitz
* Keeshond
* Pomeranian
The first is a very general dog type represented by many breeds. The last three however represent in FCI terms just 1 breed, the Deutscher Spitz (FCI standard 97). Actually standard 97 recognizes no less than 10 varieties! (see: http://www.fci.be/nomenclatures_detail.asp?lang=en&file=group5#section4).
The Keeshond is the variety called Wolfsspitz in Germany, the Pomeranian is know there as Kleinspitz.
In Holland the German spitz is known as Keeshond. So there is a difference between the English use of the word Keeshond and the Dutch original.
--Cuon 10:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is really confusing. The Pomeranian under the Fédération Cynologique Internationale is breed designation of German Spitz, as the Zwergspitz. Under the Canadian Kennel Club (and others) it is a separate breed in the Toy group. So it would not be right to only have the Pomeranian on the German Spitz page. The same applies to the Keeshond; under the Fédération Cynologique Internationale it is a Geman Spitz breed, the Wolfsspitz, but has been listed by the Kennel Club (UK) as a separate breed since 1926. The Keeshond should not be merged into the German Spitz page either. The "American Eskimo" breed apparently were originally white German Spitz, but are now accepted as a separate breed (also in three sizes) by the major North American breed registries. So where should they be listed? In addition, the Japanese Spitz (Nihon Supittsu) is a white German Spitz that is now accepted as a separate breed by the Fédération Cynologique Internationale. The Volpino Italiano looks almost identical to other white "German Spitz" types. The Indian Spitz may or may not be a variant of the Pomeranian (German Spitz - Zwergspitz.) All of these deserve to have their own breed articles.--Hafwyn (talk) 15:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirections to other languages

message: The etymology of the term "wolfspitz" derives from the conjunction of "wolf" [self explanatory] and "spiti" [greek "home" or "house"]. Many of the endearing characteristics of the breed can be found in their behaviour as a "house wolf".Far fetched. Pomeranian do got it right. Spiz means pointed in german, referring to nose and muzzle.--Tresckow (talk) 01:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems fair enough: I've deleted that claim. Remember, you can edit Wikipedia too!  ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 11:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: The source for the claim that "German Spitz are descendants of the ancient spitzen found in the Stone Age and they are the oldest breed of dog in Central Europe" is no longer live, so I've had to delete it and add a {citation needed} tag: if anyone has a current link to a reputable source for this, it would really improve the article  ~dom Kaos~ (talk)
: I added a citation to a genome sequencing paper that completely contradicts the claim of ancient lineage.Dogface (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just linked the word spitzen so that it would take the reader to the article where it's cited. Chrisrus (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: The link in this article wolfspitz takes the reader to the Keeshound, but if you see where it appears in context within this article, it seems to be referring to the oldest fossil dogs in Eastern Europe/Western Asia which are among the oldest dog skeletons that we know.  It is said that these skeletons looked like either a spitz or across between a wolf and a spitz.  Please go read the origin section of Spitz, which is where I am getting this from, and also please look at the references for that section.  The experts who examined those dogs, especially the ones that were a bit wolfier than spitzish, as wolf/spitz, a transitional animal.  I think we have two different referents here and there either needs to be a bit of disambiguation.  Or, and this might be a better option, it would be best to use a different word in this article or not to link the word "wolfspitz".  Chrisrus (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wolfspitz]], Disambiguation?