Talk:Cycle of abuse

message: Although very important, this page is copied from another page ( http://www.domesticviolence.org/cycle-of-violence/ ) that has a posted copyright. I'm removing the copyrighted content and reverting.   Grahamtalk/mail/e 23:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: much of this article doesnt make sense to me, Surely typically the initial stage of abuse is superficial charm or grooming by the abuser to lure the victim using psychological manipulation.--Penbat (talk) 17:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A victim will drawn into a relationship by the superficial charm and it will be used in the honeymoon phase to hold the victim in the cycle once it has been established. Why does that not make sense? How if I add "once established" to the lead?--Expsychobabbler (talk) 18:54, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  well shouldnt superficial charm be phase 1 rather than tension building ?--Penbat (talk) 19:45, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Also what about the cycle of abuse from one generation to the next ? --Penbat (talk) 21:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On the first point no reason why not. It is a cycle so has no defined starting or ending point once in motion. The passing on of abusive behavior to the next generation is hardly a cycle, more a poisonous inheritance going forward down the generations.--Expsychobabbler (talk) 23:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I have quite often heard the expression "cycle of abuse" in the context of abuse being passed from one generation to another. It doesnt mean a genetic disposition for psychopathy within a family, it means how often the abused victim in generation 1, often ether becomes an abuser in generation 2 (as the behaviour has become normalised or the victim wants to take out his anger on somebody else) or the victim from generation 1 may team up with an abuser as a dependent person ( a sort of folie a deux). Thus abuse in generation 1 causes a chain reaction of abuse through the generations.--Penbat (talk) 10:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

text: It’s based on the mere anecdotes of a hand full of women, with zero male victims even asked. It’s less scientific than Mythbusters. So don’t take this too seriously. All it is, is a hint that this should be actually researched. Of course it’s popular with a certain kind of abusive sexists/SJWs. Which is why otherwise not reliable and not notable anecdotes got a Wikipedia article to begin with. — 87.78.179.226 (talk) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  doesnt make sense 

message: This section, placed in the intro, seems to be original research:
* Walker's theory rests on the idea that abusive relationships, once established, are characterized by a predictable repetitious pattern of abuse, whether emotional, psychological or physical, with psychological abuse nearly always preceding and accompanying physical abuse. Additionally, Walker suggested that sustained periods of living in such a cycle may lead to learned helplessness and battered person syndrome. 
Is there a source of information? How can it be integrated into the body of the article?--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

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