Talk:28 Fundamental Beliefs

message: :Please do not cut-and-paste the text of the 28 Fundamental Beliefs straight into this article, as this is a copyright violation.
Rather, summarise their content, put it into your own words, quote reliable secondary commentary on the points, etc. See the sections "Text" under Wikipedia:Non-free content#Acceptable use and under the section "Unacceptable use". Colin MacLaurin (talk) 02:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:SDAs believe.jpg

message: The section "The doctrine of God" is a straight copy from SDAC: Fundamental Beliefs, which is copyrighted. I don't know if this is a WP:COPYVIO (), but even if it isn't, it would be much better to have a text that reformulates the text and places it in an encyclopedian context. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 15:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is a copyright violation, because of the large extent of quotations. I dealt with this several times in the past for this article, but gave up trying. I will add a few prominent notes to explain this to editors. Would others like to edit the article itself? Colin MacLaurin (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged the article as a possible copyright violation. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 02:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: COPYrisk: The doctrine of God

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: I read 19. The other nine? Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 20:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here to ask about the same thing. It's like looking up the Ten Commandments and only finding six of them. I researched it and I see that at one time the article contained the other beliefs, but they were taken verbatim from copyrighted works. The people who look after copyright violations properly removed them from the article, but that left a big hole. I think it'd be acceptable to use the names or titles for the beliefs, but those are so short that they don't convey much. Ultimately, the ideal thing would be for someone to write short descriptions of each one using two or more sources. Short quotations of key phrases from the beliefs would probably be tolerable, so long as most of the text is our own. I'll get the ball rolling by checking to see if there's an objection to using the heading names. We can start with those and the links to related articles.   Will Beback  talk   06:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I've added a list of the 28 Fundamental Beliefs, but the descriptions are so brief that they don't communicate much. Most of the "see also" links go to generic articles, but a few are to SDA-specific articles. We could proceed by using those as a source, perhaps copying in the intros. If anyone can write original descriptions that'd help too.   Will Beback  talk   23:50, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  28?

message: I think the way this page untitles the 28 Fundamental Beliefs rises questions. Why persist to use a label that is not an official one. I think it does not respect the SDA community, and risks to give the feeling the Adventist Church belongs to the fundamentalist tradition. Thank you for welcoming my suggestion to correct this non SDA title. God bless you in abundance! Jean-Luc Rolland, France.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.183.112.121 (talk) 13:15, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 28 Fundamental Beliefs as "28 Fundamentals" 

message: why is it that so many SDA articles are so poor in quality
28 beliefs not all listed , without an explanation ?
constant use of terms with out a clear definition
as an atheist, i have to ask, what is it with you religious, can't you write ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:192:4200:1E42:4D03:E775:34BD:19AD (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: And why is there a WP:LINKFARM to a bunch of external Adventist pages in the absence of encyclopedic content? The section The Beliefs will be deleted soon if there is not very good justification.--Jeffro77 (talk) 00:50, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: This is because you need to know what the SDA beiefs are before you can consider shared beliefs with others.  --MindyWaters (talk) 22:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  moving shared protestant beliefs section to below the Theological beliefs section 

message: Virtually every source in this article is Adventist. Look at Thirty-nine Articles for something closer to an encyclopedic article. This article could almost be a web page on Adventist website. Note that to be notable this needs reliable third-party sources discussing it. I'm sure those exist. Doug Weller talk 13:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs more independent sources - see a comparable article 

message: I had to revert multiple sock edits (WP:BE).  Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 03:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allenroyboy socks 

message: The last sentence in the unclear and must be reworded. It seems to be copied from here, and refers to several concepts that require a more in-depth explanation. --JustinGlen (talk) 21:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of clarity and more copied text