Talk:Chester Cathedral

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Peter I. Vardy 13:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment Report

message: I moved this paragraph - the work of a rather opinionated editor. We need some references for this is we're going to put it back in.
:"Due to the tapered shape of the tower, the very elevated location and steep angle of the louvers, the fact that the bell frame is placed directly on to the concrete support girders, and the two concrete floors between the bells and bell ringers, the acoustics of the bells are very poor, both outside for the general public and inside for the ringers. Outside the bells are deafening in the close vicinity of the tower, yet barely audible at the grand west doors of the Cathedral. Inside, the bells are very indistinct due to the concrete floors and the lack of padding between the frame and concrete girders."
--Mcginnly | Natter 17:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from mainspace

message: (Note: Names deleted because they are duplicated below - see Moved from the article. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:11, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Organists

message: I'm on an ongoing programme photographing Chester cathedral - I'll post them here for selective inclusion in the article. --Joopercoopers (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: Ok I had a bit of a delve for some blood and guts to spice the text up a bit - my thoughts are here. I think the bwpics site will prove to be a questionable reference at FAC - so we'll need to independently verify those bits. Plan on the way.......--Joopercoopers (talk) 14:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that really is some work you've done!  I've put my comments on the same page, interspersed with your ideas.  Sorry some of them are a bit negative.  If you think there's anything reliable and relevant to be added to the article, please do so.  Cheers. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A little spice

message: I've come across these bits of information, but I'm not sure how best to incorporate them in the article:
* There are Norman columns in the cellars that support the abbot's great hall (Home, p. 15)
* Home p. 18 says that "the men of Hanbury fled to Chester in 1875, taking with them in a litter the body of St. Werburgh, which the chronicler avers "was then for the first time dissolved into dust". Her body was laid in the Church of St. Peter and St. Paul, which was afterwards rededicated in her honour as the Church of St. Werburch and St. Oswald". Note that the date disagrees with  by some 32 years...
More to come when I have the time... Mike Peel (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra bits of information that could be added to the article 

message: If there isn't going to be a better offering, then I suggest that that we adopt Joopercooper's suggestion (above) of deleting the text from the image and moving it to the caption. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that might be better, but I probably need to see it done before I am sure (sorry).  If it makes it clearer, well and good. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I finally made this change! What do you think? --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's good; very clear.  Well done. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cathedral plan 

message: I found one of the missing references, but I'm not sure how to format it so it works properly. I'll leave it for someone else to fix! Amandajm (talk) 13:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference

message: Although there's an image of the nave looking towards the choir, I thought the late 19th century image on the right, which shows more detail of the choir, might be useful. Nev1 (talk) 22:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: I have moved the following from the main page; it is not appropraite for a GA, being in list form rather than prose, and is uncited.  It could form the basis for a separate list, if citations can be found. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:11, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment I would like to support the suggestion that this material is turned into a separate List. That way, more info can be added. 
See List of works by Leonardo da Vinci for example. Amandajm (talk) 09:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Problem: where is the info published?  Find that and a list is feasible. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Where has the information come from? If no single list exists that can be cited, then it must have all been gleaned from separated sources, each of which must be cited individually. Amandajm (talk) 22:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from the article

message: *Herbert Stephen Irons 1873 - 1876
*John Gumi
*JT Hughes
*Guillaume Ormond 1925 - 1926 (later organist of Truro Cathedral)
*James Roland Middleton 1934 - 1944 (later organist of Chelmsford Cathedral)
*George Guest 1944 - 1947
*Brian Runnett 1955 - 1960
*Peter White 1960 - 1962
*John Belcher 1967 - 1971
*John Keys 1975 - 1978
*Simon Russell
*John Cooper Green
*Lee Ward ???? - 1989
*Graham Eccles 1989 - 1998
*Philip Stopford 2000 - 2003 (now organist of St Anne’s Cathedral, Belfast)
*Ian Roberts
See also the List of Organ Scholars at Chester Cathedral. 
::Comment I would like to support the suggestion that this material is turned into a separate List. That way, more info can be added. 
See List of works by Leonardo da Vinci for example. Amandajm (talk) 09:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem: where is the info published?  Find that and a list is feasible. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Where has the information come from? If no single list exists that can be cited, then it must have all been gleaned from separated sources, each of which must be cited individually. Amandajm (talk) 22:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Assistant organists

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thread_title: Auto Peer review

message: Image:Chester cathedral carving 2.jpg|Carving in the choir
Image:Choir carving1.jpg|The "elephant and castle"; the hoofs suggest that the carver learnt of elephants by word of mouth.
===Citation problem===
Does anyone know why Nuttal, Clifton Taylor and a few others link from the notes to the biblio correctly, but the rest don't seem to work? --Joopercoopers (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just had a go, and they seemed to work. Amandajm (talk) 16:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah well, a very nice chap came to fix them all after I posted the problem on ANI. --Joopercoopers (talk) 20:17, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gallery

message: Does anyone know why Nuttal, Clifton Taylor and a few others link from the notes to the biblio correctly, but the rest don't seem to work? --Joopercoopers (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just had a go, and they seemed to work. Amandajm (talk) 16:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah well, a very nice chap came to fix them all after I posted the problem on ANI. --Joopercoopers (talk) 20:17, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation problem

message: Early proof of concept for the image/plan idea here - critique required. Click on x, 4, 6, or j. --Joopercoopers (talk) 23:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Proof of concept

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This is a first pass at cataloguing the glass - need to return and re-shoot with a tripod, those that need a bit more steadiness, and only got as far round (anti-clockwise) as the slype - cloisters and refectory, still to do. Rough ambulatory was West window, Nave North Aisle, west to east - South transept East, north to south - South window - South transept west, north to south - West window in choir - South choir aisle, west to east. Chapel of erasmus - North choir aisle, west to east - St. Werburgh's chapel, Lady Chapel, North Transept, Chapter House, Slype. --Joopercoopers (talk) 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Glass Survey

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--Joopercoopers (talk) 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent work! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Supplemental interiors and exteriors

message: I must say that the tracery of that south transept window is absolutely scintillating. 
The collection of 19th and 20th century glass is superb. So many of the best firms are represented, including a fantastic example of Michael Connor. What a beauty! The west window is a great example of mid 20th. And the Westminster windows are excellent.   Amandajm (talk) 13:26, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Windows

message: If you are going to insist on shoving those superfluous maps in, could you please LOOK at the effect on the layout of the article and rectify the fact that the illustrations in the lead section of the body have ben pushed down, sometimes into the next section.  The first rule of inserting anything large a of a visual nature into any article is to look at it and fix any problems caused. Amandajm (talk) 00:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps

message: The Choir don't seem independently notable, but info would be worth mentioning here. Boleyn (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  There is already a section here, and a section at List of musicians at English cathedrals.   Can you check out if anything ought to be added here? Amandajm (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This would perhaps benefit from a Gramophone search to see if they've any truly notable recordings. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Chester Cathedral Choir]] to [[Chester Cathedral]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I was checking this as part of ongoing maintenance work on the Cheshire portal and was pleasantly surprised at how good it is; congratulations all! The images are particularly stunning, and I love the coloured plan. Did anything ever come of nominating this for a featured article? I admit I have not reread the text but the work here is obviously considerable. Pinging  as the main contributors of whom I'm aware. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's pretty good, although maybe too many photos, and links need to be brought up to date.  It got rather stuck after becoming a GA.  Not sure if anyone would be prepared to do it; I'm rather involved elsewhere at present, but it would be a nice addition to the Cheshire FAs. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The quality of GAs is so variable these days, from what I see as no more than a solid start class to better than many FAs. But I doubt I'm up for nominating it a FA. They seem oriented to check all the wrong things. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did anything ever come of the FAC idea? 

message: FYI, our one-sentence Richard Langworth (priest) article has been proposed for deletion (WP:PROD). Right now, the article needs reliable sources to support the subject's notability.
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thread_title:  Proposed deletion: [[Richard Langworth (priest)]] - 16th  century [[Dean of Chester]] 

message: Abbey of SS Peter & Paul and Abbey of SS Peter and Paul currently redirect here. (a) The article should mention that former name of the abbey on the site, if that's at all accurate. (b) Those redirects should be replaced by a dab page listing the tons of other present and former abbeys of SS Peter & Paul elsewhere in the world. People don't universally associate the name with Chester. — LlywelynII 10:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Abbey of SS Peter & Paul