Talk:Hard trance

message: this page needs some serious work. anyone got enough back knowledge on Hard Trance to do so, and then link it to the Trance catagory? --Threatis 23:49, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I just came back to this page after a year, and see it's at least been expanded a bit. Now, lets get some of these facts cited, and it put into a proper Wiki Template. I don't think I have enough knowledge about the subject to mess with it specifically, however. --Threatis 12:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots Of Citation Needed 

message: The article Hardcore trance was recently deleted.  I'm wondering whether or not the term should be re-created as a redirect to here, Hard trance as a synonym.  I'm not familiar with this musical genre; my inquiry springs from looking at the many articles that linked to the deleted article.  Thanks for considering this.  --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Hardcore trance' recently deleted

message: Would I be correct to assume this is the genre of compilations such as "Ultimate NRG" and "Clublend X-Treme" (not to be confused with clubland xtreme hardcore). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smx2007 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard Trance 

message: From a quick scan, it appears that this article doesn't even have any examples of artists that use this genre, so wouldn't that make this genre not even a real thing and only theoretical? Why is there an article for a genre that isn't used by any artists?
...there is you dope, but i'm not sure if there are artist who pigeonhole themselves in hard trance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.4.45 (talk) 00:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artists? 

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message: "The hard trance sound developed out of the breakbeat hardcore/hardcore era which itself developed from Belgian New Beat industrial style of Techno. When the hardcore breakbeat production community split into its separate subgenres, hard trance began to develop within the breakbeat hardcore production community."
Not really, there was no such thing as trance there.
First tracks now labeled as trance were made on German techno scene, especially in Frankfurt. 
Real separate genre and scene developed in Berlin under Paul van Dyk and Kid Paul in E-Werk club.
Then, Frankfurt was more active. A lot of trance in both Dorian Gray and Omen.
From the beginning there were harder tracks which could be labeled as hard trance, but real scene and sub-genre developed only in second half of 90s in Frankfurt and was centered in its techno clubs.
Confusion comes because of retroactive labeling, saying there were some sub-genre before it ever existed.
This is often seen in UK, there is a lot of revisionism, like in this case when there is no real connection between UK and early hard trance scene. 93.140.27.217 (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins