Talk:List of Midsomer Murders episodes

message: I have to congratulate you on creating this article, must have taken a while to compile this information.--Mickyfitz13 13:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, and it did take a while!--Berks105 16:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Job

message: Are you sure about 'They Seek Him Here's airdate as beingthe 7th of october, as it was just broadcast this sunday (26 August) in Australia. It seem s strange that it would be broadcast here first 4:38, 28 August 2007
:It certainly has not yet be aired in the UK. I am surprised if it has been aired in Australia!?--UpDown 08:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why, but we're certainly getting episodes ahead of the UK. "Death in a Choclate Box", the episode listed here as October 14th, is airing as I type. Gesso 11:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do find that very hard to believe. Anyway, this page should show first UK airdate regardless as its a UK programme. --UpDown 11:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've clarified it so the dates shown are visably "Original UK airdate". This is, I believe, the best solution. According to TV.com they also air earlier in Norway, so its far easier and more consistent to have the earlier UK airdate regardless.--UpDown 07:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Airdates

message: Can anyone explain why Tainted Fruit is listed here as the last episode of series four when it has been realeased as the first episode of series 5 on DVD, I am from Australia so the DVD realeases might be different here.  4:04, 4 September 2006
:There is always some confusion over series, with episodes often airing far apart. However, I suspect this is Series 4 due to the closeness in airdate with other episodes. --UpDown 08:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Series 4 or 5

message: Does anyone agree for having individual articles for MM episodes? Or am I being fussy?
(Willieboyisaloser 17:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not fussed either way, but beware the Episode maniacs who go round redirecting any episode article that doesnt show "real world context". --UpDown 09:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really bothered either way, but my preference would be to see all the episodes on one page, with a short plot description of each story.  I'm not sure what extra information would feature on a page for every story, a full cast list I suppose?  Would there be enough information to justify an extra page for each episode? Paul 1978 10:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure that the "body count" info is really needed, but even if it was, it could be included in the current episode list (I think for whodunnits the only thing to avoid in episode lists are the solution & the murderer).  I'd certainly like to expand the current list to include a short plot description though Paul 1978 23:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All for an episode-by-episode body count, especially in light of the popular noting of how many people get killed in Midsomer.  A simple number wouldn't spoil the plot—there are always plenty of survivors, so a viewer wouldn't know who it was. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 21:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individual Articles for episodes? 

message: Could people please give references if they are going to add broadcast dates for the unaired programmes.  There have been edits recently with people giving exact dates in January next year, which is ludicrous given the fact that television schedules in the UK aren't finalised that far in advance. Paul 1978 19:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly don't think it against the rules, after all episode summaries are often written before a programme has aired (from info in TV guides etc). Personally I like to wait until the programme has aired, and in this case has aired in the UK as those are the airdates we use.--UpDown (talk) 07:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Although if you do write them, please don't include who the murderer was etc, and this I think would be inappriopiate when they haven't aired in their home country.--UpDown (talk) 07:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future scheduling 

message: I have done a 'Death's Shadow' article but cannot get it up to the standard of the forerunner 'Electric Vendetta' article. Can anyone assist? (Willieboyisaloser 17:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am somewhat concerned by the creation of these episode pages. They contain little content, merely who died and information repeated from this page. The who died information is trivial. Please remember that episodes should conform to policy about being notable. If they are going to be such short stub then I will redirect to main page.--UpDown 08:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry but that won't stand up. Many episode articles are now being redirected to episodes pages. Saying you'll expand them later doesn't work, if you have real world information then you can add this, otherwise I will redirect them. And spoiler warnings aren't necessary per a common consensus. --UpDown 07:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Quite right. Thanks for pointing this out.--UpDown (talk) 07:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help on episode articles 

message: Is there any reason the episode summary stops after series 3? If there isn't I'll add those in the next few weeks as I'm re watching all the episodes again at the moment. Cheers, carocat 23:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reason, its just no one has got round to doing them!--UpDown 08:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Nope, it's just what I'd got to before work got busy...feel free to do any that you can (I always struggle writing a synopsis anyway lol). I'm going to change the other tables to match, and leave the summaries empty so that people can add info as they wish Paul 1978 01:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Summary 

message: A new christmas episode is scheduled for the Xmas, shouldn't this be added? I think its already aired in Australia. (Aurumpotestasest (talk) 17:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This page lists first UK airdate, otherwise it tends to get very confusing with airdates of different countries (and harder to verify). An upcoming episode can be added if the title and airdate can be referenced?--UpDown (talk) 07:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This hadn't aired in Australia at the time you posted but did so last night (Oct 5) There was also an ad for next weeks episode which i believe will be the first episode of series 12  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.105.109 (talk) 05:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Days of Misrule 

message: i'm making articles for the episodes. i think theyre notable enough. but should i make loads of them for all 65 episodes in one go, or work slowly on a few at a time. (Aurumpotestasest (talk) 19:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I don't believeing articles are necessary for episodes. There is not enough information, bar an extended plot. Please read WP:EPISODES, as they would need to feature real world information.--UpDown (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  episode articles 

message: It seems that this serie eleven episode is missing. It was on the air on August 3rd 2008. --Briotti (talk) 11:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode: Talking to the Dead 

message: As of 10 February 2010, there will have been 72 episodes broadcast from thirteen series. Egbertnoah (talk) 02:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode count 

message: Anyone noticed the obvious similarities between this episode and the Lewis episode "Counter Culture Blues?" Same personel, same settings, same story-plot, - but different murders and different solution in the end. So far I was not able to find anything about this, e.g. whether there is an original story written by the same person. 125.162.47.86 (talk) 01:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Axeman Cometh 

message: The listing of the "2010-episodes" shows that episode 74 ("The Made to Measure Murders") was aired on 12:th May 2010 -but the following episode 75 ("The sword of Guillaume") was aired as early as 10:th February 2010. There might be a reason, but it seems a bit odd to me. Otherwise a very good guide.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.249.33.33 (talk) 05:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: the airdates are correct. I think the problems arise from the fact that ITV showed episoded out of order of productions  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.200.119 (talk) 10:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Airdate error (??)

message: In the episode summary for "Midsomer Life" (Series 11) the article has the hotel as "Moorcroft" when it should be "Morecroft", as can be verified by the hotel sign in the beginning of the episode and other appearances of the name throughout. I'll edit accordingly. Cerdic (talk) 09:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Midsomer Life

message: For some inexplicable reason the name of the murderer of many episodes has been added. This has no real purpose and seems rather malicious towards those who haven't seen an episode yet, which probably is often going to be the case. Is there overall agreement that these are removed?
User:Allard placed 14 April 2012 19:47 CET
I agree, in fact I thought I posted a similar comment. They should be removed. I haven't seen a lot of the episodes yet, and it's frustrating to inadvertently see the murderer's name when I just wanted to read a short introduction or look up an actor's name while I watch. Tlqk56 (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murderer 

message: The Suzi Quatro navbox has twice been deleted from this article. The reasons given in the edit summaries were:
* "Hardly relevant to this page. Just follow the link to her name mentioned once in season 11"
* "Subject of navbox is of no importance to the topic. She has a small part on in one episode out of more than 90."
I agree that Quatro has a part in just one episode (but would not classify it as "small"). Even if it were a small part, I feel that the navbox should be in the article for the benefit of those Wikipedia readers who are mainly interested in Suzi Quatro (who is a bass guitar player) and would like to find out more about her other career on TV. I feel that they should be able navigate from the navbox in an article about (say) one of Quatro's albums to all articles about her notable TV appearances via navboxes in articles for the TV appearances.
Putting the navbox into this article seems to me to follow the relevant guidance (WP:NAVBOX and WP:NAV) because:
* Suzi Quatro, the subject of the template, is mentioned in this article and this is supported by a reliable source in the actual article.
* Quatro has an article herself.
* The navbox lists her TV work, as a sub-topic, in chronological order.
So I have reverted the deletion — Peter Loader (talk) 14:33, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This should not need explaining. There have been over 90 episodes of MM. Each of these has at least three 'guest stars', often more. It is absurd to think that any one of these people should have a nav box attached to a subject in which they played such a minute part (overall). If anyone sees the episode in which she appears and, for some unfathomable reason, goes to the episode list (instead of directly to her article), they can easily get to where all the relevant information exists by the simple expedient of following the link. If we granted a nav box to every guest of every episode we would have hundreds of the things. Thus, removed again. PRL42 (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well put. Absolutely agree. Stephen Kirrage talk - contribs 22:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suzi Quatro navbox 

message: Is there a site where i can see the viewers? On the current link (http://www.barb.co.uk/index/index) are not the views. --Henning111 (talk) 17:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viewers 

message: Could we reach some sort of consensus for which order the episodes should be shown in? At the moment, it appears to be broadcast order as opposed to production order. The major problem with this is some of the earlier episodes were broadcast out of sequence and thus confuse the series' internal continuity. In particular, Beyond the Grave is in reality the final episode of series 2, not series 3, so is completely out of place in the list at present. I would like to see the list returned to production order for continuity's sake. L1v3rp00l (talk) 23:52, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The start of the Episodes section should give the order of episodes in the tables and explain the subtleties involved. Series 9 is out of air date order, which confused me. Ralph Corderoy (talk) 10:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode order 

message: Re the description of The Christmas Haunting (ep.96) as a "Christmas special," I would argue that it is nothing of the kind.  It is certainly set at Christmas and was timed to be broadcast on Christmas Eve, but it is an integral part of the 2013-14 series of 5 episodes, and begins the story arc which finishes with the birth of the Barnabys' baby.  In any future re-runs, it will not be sensible to omit this episode on the basis that it is a seasonal stand-alone episode - surely a true test of 'special-ness'.
2 B Promoted (talk) 22:43, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special? - I think not. 

message: The leftmost "#" columns (just one such column in the pilot episode) may be confusing to some. The leftmost one should read something like "Overall Episode #", while the one next to it should read something like "Season Episode #". Granted, both are long for such small columns (i.e., not exceeding two digits), but, the labels would be far more obvious to all. Perhaps they could be done with a small font, or as superscripts, or similarly less verbose indicators. Skaizun (talk) 13:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it looks a bit odd, but it's very easy to see what's happening, and trying to make sensible column headers would inevitably look messy (or unnecessarily expand the table horizontally). PRL42 (talk) 09:19, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing side-by-side "#" columns 

message: Joyce Barnaby joins a painting group, and discovers the body of a murder victim. Joyce Barnaby joins an amateur dramatics society, one of the cast is murdered. Joyce Barnaby volunteers renovating an old canal, a murder is uncovered. Joyce Barnaby is a judge in a perfect village competition, and a villager is murdered. Joyce Barnaby drags Tom to visit a memorial garden, someone is murdered. Tom and Joyce visit a rowing regatta, a member of the rowing club is murdered. Joyce Barnaby gets a job as an extra in a movie, the director is murdered. Joyce Barnaby swerves her car to miss a pedestrian, an unrelated person is murdered. Tom and Joyce go to a spa, someone is killed in a flotation chamber.
Clearly Joyce Barnaby must be a serial killer.
211.31.207.5 (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: And Cully is skulking around in the background framing someone for each of the murders to protect her mother. Works for me. PRL42 (talk) 18:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joyce Barnaby 

message: The description in the main article of Series 18 says "The eighteenth series will ... have a first Asian character played by Manjinder Virk."
I thought the pharmacist father of the young female astronomer in Series 15 episode 3 "Written in the Stars" was a caricature of the "heavy Asian father" (Harry Dutta played by Ace Bhatti)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charmbrights (talk • contribs) 10:53, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asian character 

message: It seem ridiculous to clutter up the article with a useless reference and a much longer string telling everyone it's useless. Especially as it's relatively hard to read against the coloured background.
I've removed a couple of < ref><not specific> pairs, and will remove the rest later unless there are any objections. PRL42 (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Now done. PRL42 (talk) 09:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audience figures reference 

message: Can someone reference these filming dates for each episode? I can't find anything on a quick Google search. Also, are these filming dates really relevant? ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 16:04, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming dates 

message: It appears that the episode, "Tainted Fruit" IS the 6th episode of season 4 and not the first episode of season 5. The episode was first shown on September 23rd of 2001, which is a week after the 5th episode. Thus, there is no reason for placing it in a later season. I cant say this for a fact, since I didn't see the episode on its original run, but several sources confirm this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118401/episodes?season=4
http://epguides.com/MidsomerMurders/
http://www.midsomermurders.org/mainepisodeguide.htm
http://www.tv.com/shows/midsomer-murders/tainted-fruit-108312/
The first episode of Season 5 is "Market for Murder," which aired on 16th June 2002:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118401/episodes?season=5&ref_=ttep_ep_sn_nx
http://www.tv.com/shows/midsomer-murders/market-for-murder-173944/
I would edit it, but I've never done tables before. If someone knows how to already ... If not, I'll take a stab at it. 01:42, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 4 or 5 Redux 

message: Can someone please fill in this section about info on season 20? Or better, update the main article. Neither epguides.com nor imdb.com seem to have sufficient info about that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.189.78.248 (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 20 

message: "The Sting of Death" and "With Baited Breath" were broadcast in Feb 2020 (in the USA not on ITV but nonetheless were broadcast).
Then later (in Oct 2020) ITV announced that filming had begun for Series 22 and it would contain 6 episodes.
Therefore "The Sting of Death" and "With Baited Breath" must be in Series 21.
IMDB supports this assertion. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118401/episodes?season=21 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118401/episodes?season=22
: The iTV website suggests otherwise. https://www.itv.com/hub/midsomer-murders/1a7317a0055  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frade (talk • contribs) 07:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series 21 and 22 

message: Is it too much to expect editors of this article to have watched the show and to produce summaries that reflect what actually happens, using coherent language? 
As an example (one of many) the summary for "Murder on St Malley's Day" includes the statement:
a teacher is found murdered, and a missing student from a rival school is found dead in a creek.
None of this is true. The second victim is an eccentric villager who peddles conspiracy theories; and the third victim is found in a body of water that certainly isn't a creek, and is a diplomat, not a teacher. The standards of grammar, punctuation and coherent English also leave much to be desired throughout the article. I've been trying to fix things but it feels like I will end up rewriting almost everything in the article.Lord Mauleverer (talk) 12:02, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hear! Hear! 86.77.202.48 (talk) 10:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy and standards of English

message: I myself have seen all the episodes listed here under seasons 23 and 24 via the ABC in Australia, which usually gets these things after they've already been released overseas. If I've already seen them all, how can the first one, season 23, episode 1, which the article says will be aired on 14th April 2024, not yet have been released in the UK? I cannot edit this article myself, because I do not know the original, correct air dates and am having difficulty finding them.Geoff Pointer (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 23 episode 1 air date is wrong