Talk:List of Pokémon/Archive 2

message: Why is this even on Wikipedia? "Pokemon # 181-200", for example, is its own article. Why? There is no reason. 199.227.204.3 (talk) 21:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So that readers don’t have to go to multiple pages for a complete list, also this one is reorderable, and has the other numbers, which those lists do not. --WikidSmaht (talk) 01:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Why?

message: Originally I wanted the page to have all the regional Pokedex numbers on it, but thinking about it, the page is very, very large now, but in the future the numbering systems will only grow. Therefore I suggest we remove the Ranger Browser numbers from the list. It's not really part of the main series, and isn't that important, almost falling into a game-guide area. In the future as other systems come up, especially in remakes, they'll probably be longer and more inclusive. So for now, I suggest we remove the Ranger numbers, and if it's agreed I'll do it myself. Later we can consider others. - MK ( talk/contribs ) 12:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And, if/when we decide, I made the edit here. - MK ( talk/contribs ) 14:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the removal sucks. But space is a consideration, I grant, especially with a completely different Browser in Almia. --WikidSmaht (talk) 01:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Old/short regional numbers...

message: Please continue adding additional pokemon to this table. There are other pokemon. Anything found with Gameshark is original research.  We need to catch them all for me to cage.  12:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bull. --WikidSmaht (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: #495

message: I think this page should be at least semi perotected, so much vanalism (#494 and such).  --Kuriza (talk) 04:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: While looking at this in boredom, I saw that the Trademarked Romanization of the Female Nidoran said "Vagina", and it seems to have been there for a while. Yet, when I translated the Kanji or whatever of the female Nidoran, it still came up as "Nidoran" instead of "Vagina". So I believe somebody forgot to fix this. Sir Sanjuro (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 02:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for bringing this to attention.  It looks like a case where we just missed some vandalism.  I've fixed it now. MelicansMatkin (talk) 14:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Female Nidoran

message: I think the List of Pokémon should be un-merged back into individual articles, because the lists contain virtually no information compared to the original articles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.250.214.9 (talk) 12:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Negative. Allmost all of the Pokémon are not notable enough to have their own pages on Wikipedia. If you want individual articles, go to Bulbapedia. Cheers, Face 20:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pokemon are notable enough 24.184.206.83 (talk) 16:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Pokémon merged-list articles are useless and uninformative.  They are a product of a double standard in notability policies between English Wikipedia and foreign language Wikipedias.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando (talk) 04:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion belongs elsewhere. --WikidSmaht (talk) 08:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Un-merge

message: Does this trash belong in an encyclopedia?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.23.88.219 (talk) 01:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: User, look at thyself and ask that.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and whoever posted this message, you should be a little more <B>civil</B> in your language. 71.161.133.35 (talk) 19:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seriously? 

message: Is this a complete list of ALL the pokemon games, I misunderstood the beginning, or is it only diamond and pearl? Androo123 (talk) 04:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh... what do you mean? This is a list of all the fictional species called Pokémon. If you want to see all Pokémon related video games, check List of Pokémon video games. Cheers, Face 09:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete 

message: Given that nintendo's own site and helpline counts MissingNO. as "valid" enough to comment about, should it be listed here among the list for completion's sake? Been pondering that for a bit.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 14:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I googled WP and to my surprise did not found a topic about this. I am pretty sure that MissingNo. was once listed, but later removed. I say we do not re-add it, because it is not a Pokémon, even though it looks like one. The word "MissingNo." stands for "Missing Numero",  used during the development of the game as a placeholder. So when the game tries to load a Pokémon whitout a number, it labels it "MissingNo.". Cheers, Face 17:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well aware what MissingNO. is and why it happens. Point was to suggest it being on the list and a footnote explaining it's a glitch and not 'real', since they've been turned up one way or another in every game. Also it stands for Missing Number, not Numero.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol. What do you think does "Numero" mean!?.. Duh. -- 77.54.112.55 (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  MissingNO. 

message: There's missing pokemon on the big list, such as whiscash, which is in Diamond/Pearl. I would update it, but I'm not too familiar with how to edit tables yet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigermonkey (talk • contribs) 11:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Pokemon On List 

message: Where does it say that Arceus came from an egg from a void? Vereux0 (talk) 04:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Canalave Library.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 21:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Point is, out of storyline does it actually *appear* as an egg in the game?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. --WikidSmaht (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arceus Egg? 

message: in the pokemon episode gost of madins peek a gasley combines a venosor with a blasbois to make venosdois should this be aded to the list of pokemon i mean it is notibul right?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.31.19.22 (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Only actual in game ones.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  venosdois 

message: Not sure how else to put this. It's worth noting that Garmeil (Mothim)'s name would be better transliterated garMALE. That IS what he is, and may have a lot to do with the origin or meaning of his name. It may also be worth placing similar suggestions or queries here for discussion, for those of us like me who are too lazy to make a wikipedia account. 75.15.215.106 (talk) 23:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, though to stress something it'd be best to go with as close to literal name translations as possible perhaps here, unless a reliable source can be cited. Saying this because I know how some people can get really colorful with translating the names of games in cases like these :\--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not really our fault the Japanese made the Romanizations all weird...we didn't make these up, believe me.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly erroneous name transliterations? 

message: I'm curious about the various elements of the pokemon but do not want to delve through 100+ links, I propose they be added to the table. Breaking the table up into groupings is one idea but i assume you want to keep the pokedex registry order. How about creating a small symbol or achronym key of the 15 types then give them a 2 letter column TH=thunder PL=plant etc. I know the table is already crammed but that should not take up too much space. Bloodkith (talk) 20:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I could agree with adding the types of each Pokémon to the table. I'll wait and see what other people think though. Artichoker[talk] 20:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While it sounds good in theory, this page is very large as it is, and more information is going to be added with each new generation. Heck, even Platinum extends the Sinnoh dex... I would not add their types. 69.182.107.94 (talk) 02:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I could add types from the official Pokédex sitting right in front of me, but for Platinum, you would have to use a third party source or wait for the updated Pokédex to come out. About the acronyms, there are 17 types, and I already have a suggested acronym list. (Bug=BUG, Dark=DRK, Dragon=DRG, Electric=ELC, Fighting=FTG, Fire=FIRE, Flying=FLY, Ghost=GHO, Grass=GRS, Ground=GRD, Ice=ICE, Normal=NRM, Poison=PSN, Psychic=PSY, Rock=RCK, Steel=STL and Water=WTR) It's from the Pokémon Emerald Strategy Guide. But I do have the Diamond/Pearl Pokédex. PMDFan (talk) 16:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is indeed quite large already. If and when a 5th generation is introduced, it will add yet another numbering scheme... We do not need types on this table, it just makes it longer and more cumbersome. I suggest removing them. 69.177.235.236 (talk) 00:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Elements

message: hi i posted the first veniosdois thing(i dont know how 2 post on the origenul and i cant spell good so bear with me)i thank that it should at least be lissted as a anima only pokemon or a notabul pokemon i mean not puting it up wont make it like it never was in the episode you are jest hideing it from others you should put it up as a anima only pokemon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.218.67.166 (talk) 12:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What "anima only Pokémon" do you mean? And what is a "veniosdois"? - Face 13:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he's referring to that illusion that was a hybrid of a Venusaur and a Blastoise, it was created by a Gastly. I think the episode was called "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak". Rhonin the wizard (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes, now I remember. That was "venustoise". Not notable enough to be at WP though, and it's already on Bulbapedia (see here). - Face 17:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  veniosdois (continued 

message: Who thinks that more pokémon should have a picture. I only know a fraction of all the pokémon species (Pikachu, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Lucario, Jigglypuff, not much more). I could illustrate up to 25% of all the pokémon species. If you agree, tell me which one you would like.
--Mr Alex  (talk) 23:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Page Is To Large Already Adding Pictures Would Not Help That Perhaps The Page Should Be Split Up Between Generations. cal05000 (talk) 16:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The page is NOT too large and will NOT be split up, but we don’t need pictures, and if we DID, we wouldn’t be using fanart. --WikidSmaht (talk) 10:17, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: I noticed that according to this, Mew can only be caught from events. But in pokémon blue and red, you can catch it by yourself. Although you have to do a strange series of events, should this be mentioned somewhere? — 124.149.125.86 (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. That is a glitch, it doesn’t count. Although I suppose the Japanese games should be mentioned with regard to Mew. --WikidSmaht (talk) 01:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

text: No, it cannot. Not without hacking. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go away and don’t come back until you do and are ready to be serious. WikidSmaht (talk) 10:17, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mew being event only? 

message: A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion 
or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please 
visit the discussion at 
Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters

message: Pokémon no. 48 to 56 are missing!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.95.142.27 (talk) 15:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone vandlized the page a few days ago and it went unnoticed. I've restored the content now. Thanks for pointing it out to us. MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 

message: Done! I did it in four steps, so you can easily see what decisions were reached and what changes were made. I updated the prose, and using tooltips I condensed all the Japanese into one column, added more information about the quirks of the numbering systems, eliminated the need for users to scroll all the way down to the footnotes, and, per , I have removed the type column(s).
It only took about 10 hours total. MK, have you ever used EditPad? It’s a cool text editor and the advanced search-and-replace features made it all pretty simple. Plus, since it allows drag-and-drop, even the biggest hassle, switching the trademarked romanization column over to the left of the other two, wasn’t too big a deal. Most of the time was spent in tweaking notes and such. --WikidSmaht (talk) 12:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I use Notepad++ :P and fantastic work! - MK (t/c) 17:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! The work was really nothing compared to the first time I rewrote it. --WikidSmaht (talk) 08:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul

message: You that have made with the table? Return back Japanese names! Morons. 78.138.171.140 (talk) 15:38, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Even though I wasn't actually involved in the redesign of this table, I can tell you that if you are referring to the katakana and literal romanji spellings of the Japanese Pokémon names, they are present in the new version of this table. When you place your mouse pointer over a name in the "Japanese name" column, you will see a tooltip that contains the corresponding katakana and literal romanji spellings for that name. I hope this helps. By the way, please do not engage in namecalling, as such behavior may be considered disruptive. SoCalSuperEagle  (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese names