Talk:Maxim Dlugy

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:KMO 070476 00003 1m.jpg

message: After "Maxim (Max) Dlugy is a Grandmaster of chess.", the article later states that he "Dislikes having his first name shortened to "Max"". I'll assume the trivia is true, and remove the bracketed Max, but if anyone knows better please fix it. 82.45.40.4 (talk) 19:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Max"

message: Seem like important topics for a bio, but omitted here. See his bio on chessgames.com.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.103.173 (talk) 16:43, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "Arrest and Acquittal(?)"

message: The article says, "He was only an average player for his age until he shot up in strength in the early 1980s."  But on the December 1978 USCF rating list, when Dlugy was 12 years old, he had a provisional rating in the 1500's.  The following year, he was 1989, and the year after that, 2209.  So the expression "average ... for his age" is a poor choice, and "early 1980s" is only half right.
The reason I haven't just gone and fixed this is because I am also tempted to just remove it.  Details of a player's early rating progress, unless he wins major prizes or achieves other distinctions, are usually of little interest.  Or so it seems to me -- I am open to suggestions.  Bruce leverett (talk) 03:16, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't cited, and the evidence you uncovered suggests that it isn't correct either.  Removing it would be good.  Thanks for researching this.  Quale (talk) 04:25, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early development 

message: This anecdote is sourced by one article in the boy's home town newspaper and two YouTube videos.  That doesn't add up to much in reliable sources.  Is there some reason to consider that this incident needs to be mentioned in Dlugy's biography?  I suppose that every day Grandmasters lose games to little kids on the Web.  And I suppose it is not unusual for such an incident to get a lot of views.  Bruce leverett (talk) 23:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loss to TrickyMate 

message: Article from Vice. Endwise (talk) 18:13, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chess Grandmaster Maxim Dlugy Admitted to Cheating on Chess.com, Emails Show 

message: I feel a disconnect between removing the claim that Dlugy operates Chess Max Academy, because it is "unsourced", and linking to the official website of Chess Max Academy in the "External links" section.
The most natural thing to use for a source would be that website.  It is not, by the usual standards, a reliable secondary source.  Searching for "Chess Max Academy" with Google, I didn't find any of those, except, of course, the Vice article, which undoubtedly copied that tidbit from Wikipedia.  I think the official website should be considered "reliable" in the sense that it is safe to infer from it that the academy exists.  It doesn't establish notability, but that doesn't particularly bother me in this situation.  If it bothers you, there's this link, which is old and out of date, but plainly indicates notability. Bruce leverett (talk) 04:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This articles appears to have a history of what seems to be WP:COI editing. I am uncomfortable enabling that by linking to the subject's business that has not been covered by independent sources. The about page is very promotional (to be expected) and doesn't mention Dlugy. So, I am not sure which page does. The real estate piece is very promotional too. If we can verify that "the academy is run by Dlugy" and that "it has locations in New York and Connecticut" using any reliable source other than Vice, even if primary and/promotional, I would be okay with adding the claim back not in the lead, as a compromise. IIRC, someone anonymously added largely incoherent and promotional claims and you copyedited it into the sentence in question. So, I assume, without sources, you are not even in a position to say definitively that it's true. Personally, I would address the disconnect by simply removing the spammy link from EL section. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:16, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The experience of having my words copied verbatim into an article in Vice reminded me that working on Wiki articles can sometimes put you unexpectedly under a magnifying glass.  I agree that the Chess Max Academy website is not something that we really want to cite.  However, I see the "Personal life" sections of biography articles as a place where citations of promotional material are often hard to avoid.  So the compromise you suggested is reasonable.  The main page states clearly that Dlugy runs the outfit, and shows a photo of him (with a student and the student's mother).  But I will keep looking for something better, for a while. Bruce leverett (talk) 14:47, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I was able to find a legitimate source to cite.  But I also cited the Chess Max Academy website, which supports the statement about locations in Manhattan and Connecticut. Bruce leverett (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chess Max Academy 

message: The bare URL being cited is a lawsuit.  It looks funny to me to be citing a primary source, but I'll let it pass if there's nothing better.  Is there a template for citing lawsuits?  I didn't see anything I liked in Citation templates. Bruce leverett (talk) 02:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Bruce leverett:  if there is no specific template, just use . BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:33, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit by Niemann