Talk:NASCAR rules and regulations

message: Could use a section on the "actions detrimental to stock car racing" rule they always quote when they fine people. Recury 00:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This artical is very poor. Needs lots of work. I came to find info on Qualifying, but found a very detaild description of saftey equipment, lots on how points are awarded and lots of anicdotes, but no real infomation on the rules and regs.
Also, should we realy be giving examples of how rules are enfoced using names and places? Yes, use theoretical examples to illistrate a point, but please, more on the rules, not there effect. 62.232.65.170
I don't have a problem with citing specific examples-- sometimes this helps to illustrate a point better than an abstract discussion. Also, sometimes a specific incident needs to be cited because it caused officials to change the rules, and this needs to be noted. However, the article could use external links to urls within nascar's web site that discuss the regulations. Finally, how about the engine displacement limit, and how it has changed over the years?versen 23:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: rules

message: Would like to see a link to the official rulebook. I can't seem to find one here or anywhere. Davidl9999 22:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The official rule book is not public information.  You can't link to it.  You can't buy it.Mustang6172 22:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes providing references laughable. Maybe I should just pull some NASCAR info out of my butt and post it. (jk) Davidl9999 20:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the biggest load of nonsense I've ever heard, for gods sake the FIA provides the exact details of the entire F1 regulations for you to view, Nascar has nothing at all, which makes it seems amateurish.  I wanted to find out about the tyre regulations but can't - how silly is that? Boothy m 13:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

text: IMHO rules must be published for credibility and as a minimum for any expectation of adherence!  Is this professional wrestling, or racing? 4crates (talk) 03:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They are, you just have to be a member of NASCAR in order to buy the rulebook. However, NASCAR quite often publicizes its rules through press releases, so there is a primary source for most of the rules, even though it isn't the rulebook itself. Spicy (talk) 18:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Old rulebooks pop up for sale on eBay, but current editions are not public. TyVulpine (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Official rule book

message: Under Gear Rule at the end of the article, it says that NASCAR is restricting what the tallest gear may be and and not permitting the use of overdrive gears in an attempt to reduce engine RPM's. How does shortening the gears reduce the engine RPM? If the car have the use a larger (shorter) gear ratio in order to achieve the same speed on the oval, the engine must be cranking out at a higher RPM. Acceptable (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember that NASCAR also controls the differential ratios.  Eliminating overdrive is more of a cost cutting measure.Mustang6172 (talk) 03:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gear Rule 

message: There should be something about rain tires and wipers, since the first points race in NASCAR history to use them was just raced at the 2008 NAPA Auto Parts 200 70.51.11.219 (talk) 06:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added that information as soon as the race ended.  There's nothing more to say about it because there's no way of knowing if NASCAR will ever do that again.Mustang6172 (talk) 22:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rain tires & wipers

message: The article should have something about how the finish order is determined. Unfortunately, I don't know of a source for this.
I was curious as after his crash at Talladega a couple of weeks ago Carl Edwards got out of his car and ran across the finish line. I see from the race results that he placed 24th and in this article Edwards says that he wanted to finish and also to make sure he got all the points he could just in case there was something in the rules about running across the finish line. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well he said he wanted to finish.  If you had just gone 499 of 500 miles, you'd be dissapointed too.  I think it's pretty safe to say his use of the term "I don't know," is intended to indicate that he doesn't take the question seriously.  In other interviews he often mentions his intention to parody the climatic scene of Talladega Nights.  I suppose it may be important to include that every driver who starts the race will recieve the full points appropriate to his/her finishing position and that there is no minimum distance to complete before you can be classified in a finishing position.Mustang6172 (talk) 04:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify: The white flag indicates that this is the last scored lap for all drivers as they pass the white flag. The finishing order is determined as the cars cross the finish line when the checkered flag is displayed (if they don't finish the final lap, they are scored as of the previous lap). The CAR must cross the line. Carl's run was entertaining but meaningless. However, the car does not have to be going forward or even on its wheels across the line; Clint Bowyer finished the 2007 Daytona 500 by sliding across the finish line upside down,[and on fire! NitPicker769 (talk) 03:32, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Terry Labonte was sliding sideways at the end of a race at Bristol (spun by Dale Earnhardt) in 1994 and won. Car was totally wrecked, of course. TyVulpine (talk) 23:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

text:  Thank you Simishag. The Nascar web site does not have seem to have a place where they docuement the rules. Ideally there's a reliable source that says how the white flag is used and the finish order is determined. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, NASCAR's rule book is not generally available to the public (noted in the lead). We can more or less glean the rules from past race results and from analogous rules in other racing series, but occasionally we learn something new. Simishag (talk) 23:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finish order 

message: In the graph of the flags you are missing a very common and often used flag combination. In NASCAR the waving of the Red and Black flags at the same time signifys the end of practice and is used to declare the end of each practice session. If a source is needed, the use of these flags can be seen on any televised practice session in the top 3 NASCAR series. (Toughguy223 (talk) 01:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Flags

message: Please change the point values for 1st place from 46 to 43 the driver that wins any nascar race in the top 3 series receives 43 points plus up to 5 bonus points 3 for winning the race 1 for leading a lap and 1 for leading the most laps the points run from 43 to 1 in descending
order with 1st place receiving 43 points and last place receiving 1 point plus any applicable
bonus points.http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/NASCARs-new-points-system-rewards-winning-012611#!k5Dq8 Kylea0470 (talk) 11:41, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done:. The 46 in the table includes the 3 bonus points. Also, it isn't up to 48 points -- it's a minimum of 47 points: 43 for 1st place; 3 bonus for win; 1 bonus for leading a lap (the last lap). Then there are any bonuses for all other laps led (if any), and 1 more if and only if the race winner also leads the most laps, which he isn't automatic. I have added the reference you provided, though. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 13:35, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 October 2013 

message: The edit that was made today is factually inaccurate, and uses terminology that does not appear in NASCAR rules, nor in any recent ruling.  "NASCAR will allow a lane change of a competitor, if another competitor in front of he/her in their respective lane/line has an issue."
In fact, there have been numerous situations where drivers were penalized for changing lanes before the start-finish line, and for jumping "out of line".  It would be impractical for NASCAR to use the term, or concept of "an issue", because that would leave the door wide open for anyone to interpret what "an issue" is, to wit: running out of fuel, missing an upshift, spinning the tires, having less horsepower than the competitor that follows, etc.  You simply cannot pull out of line and pass the car in front of you until you reach the start-finish line according to the rules.
* Race director David Hoots outlined those changes in the meeting, saying that the restart zone and the procedures around it remain the same. “The change is,” Hoots said, “that once we go green, we’re racing green. You can’t change your line or your lane until you reach the start/finish line."http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2013/09/15/nascar-drivers-meeting-restarts-chicagoland.html
Psennett (talk) 03:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caution flag and restart procedure 

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message: Chase Elliott did not have four loose lug nuts in the 2021 Ally 400 at Nashville, he actually has five loose lug nuts that made him disqualified. Jaylon AngRoblox2009 (talk) 06:35, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong number of loose lug nuts