Talk:Japanese economic miracle

message: I removed the cleanup tag--although this article still needs work, it now conforms to wikipedia standards Savidan 05:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup tag

message: One piece that is missing from the article is the mentioning of the toy manufacturing industry, which was a key component to the Japanese economy post-World War II. Japan used scrap metal left over from the war to build toys, that were then exported to the United States, in exchange for food. The toy industry was essential because it allowed the Japanese industry to enter the world economy once again after the war commenced. 
::Allison, Anne. Millennial Monsters, edited by Anne Allison, University of California Press, 2006. ProQuest Ebook Central, http://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/iun/detail.action?docID=257075 (Links to an external site.)
Nhyer (talk) 04:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: I've corrected several factual errors in this article. Added references to sources used and updated information. --LordoftheFLIES 02:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the changes made by the above user.  Although I think the article needs further improvement in parts.  Good job. --Northmeister 04:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You two are funny. -Will Beback 04:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: More harassment and wiki-stalking...I hope those concerned see this stuff. Look at the edit summary! --Northmeister 05:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrected factual errors

message: This article requires extensive inline citations and cleanup. I did not see a single inline citation at the time of creating this message, and the content smacks of someone having simply read a history textbook and written an essay about the Miracle before copypasting it and formatting it into WP standards.
Furthermore, the content seems to take a very strong bent towards specifically identifying the economic interventionism of the government as the source of the economic growth. While this may or may not be factually accurate, inline citations need to be developed to support it, because it is a non-neutral statement relative to the historical disputes over economic liberalization vs. interventionism having been the cause of Japan's growth; similarly, saying that companies' "abandonment of these principles" caused the lack of growth following the 1990s is also non-neutral. 
I have culled some of the material that is explicitly non-neutral in the opening section, but if you restore or add any information to the article, please take the time to carefully add inline citations for it. In particular, online citations are very nice when it comes to neutrality disputes, because physical citations are difficult to cross-reference for other editors.
Thank you. 128.119.186.71 (talk) 15:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New templates Nov. 2011 and article cleanup 

message: "the greatest years of prosperity Japan had seen since the Sun Goddess shut herself up behind a stone door to protest her brother Susano-o's misbehavior."
The use of this quote confuses me and I'd like a little clarification. Is it saying that just as the gods worked to bring Amaterasu their beloved goddess and leader out of the cave by building treasures and hosting parties to brighten up everyone's lives; eventually ending in Amaterasu returning and Japan becoming better than ever after the violence of Susanoo the Japanese government (the gods being in this case a metaphor for the government and its people) worked to bring Japan (Amaterasu in metaphor in this case) out of the darkness caused by WWII and it's militaristic government (Susanoo being the metaphor here)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deus-Helios (talk • contribs) 07:50, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't have to take it that literally. The Japanese like to give economic booms names out of Shinto mythology. After the war there was the "Jinmu economic boom", named after the legendary first emperor, cited in expressions like "the best looking actor since Jinmu". In other words, since a long time ago. The next boom was even better, so they went back further and named it after Jinmu's mother, the Sun Goddess Amaterasu. And the next one was better still, so they went back further and named it after her father, Izanagi, who created Japan. These are all hyperbolic and don't mean much more than "since a very long time ago". --Margin1522 (talk) 20:16, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mikiso Hane quote 

message: Alright I don't know if this is just me, but when I look at the images on this article and then the various text that accompanies the images, the text is in Chinese. I don't know if this is a bug or if it's someone who edited the wrong wiki or what but somehow I don't think that Chinese text is supposed to be on the English Wikipedia (unless the article has something to do with China, which this does not). Just thought I'd bring it up. - Zabuza825 (talk) 10:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese? 

message: It is not immediately obvious why the bursting of the asset bubble should be caused by the collapse of Communism and by the Gulf War. Certainly, the three coincided with one another.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.10.231 (talk) 13:21, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not obvious 

message: My move of the page a few weeks back ago has just been reverted so I thought I'd explain myself on this -
As I understand it, there are no other events known as the "Japanese economic miracle" than the one this article deals with. The term "Japanese economic miracle" clearly has some use as a WP:COMMONNAME (see here for one example) and is presumably used in reference to the other "economic miracles" listed in :Category:Post–World War II economic booms. In light of both of these, I really don't understand why the extra word "post-war" needs to be added to the title - that should, of course, be "short, natural, distinguishable and recognizable".—Brigade Piron (talk) 15:51, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no common name for this subject, so you need consensus to change the stable name of the article. Not all the articles have the same format, nor do all of them include the word 'economic' in them, such as Taiwan Miracle, Miracle of Chile, and Brazilian Miracle, and Japanese Miracle also has use as a WP:COMMONNAME. So you need consensus to change this. Vivexdino (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how any of your examples show that we need to add the extra qualifier "post-war". I'll open a move discussion below.—Brigade Piron (talk) 18:52, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It shows that "Japanese Miracle" is also a better name than "Japanese economic miracle" per your same argument. The article stays at the long-standing name, which is the status quo, until this has been properly discussed, rather than a unilateral move. Vivexdino (talk) 23:08, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title - why add "post-war"? 

message: The death and destruction caused by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were much less impactful to the Japanese nation as a whole than the rest of the air raids on Japan, particularly the incendiary bombing of all of the major Japanese cities besides Kyoto. For example, a single bombing raid of Tokyo, on the night of 9–10 March 1945, is still considered the single most destructive bombing raid in human history.(ref) Changed the wording on the article just a few minuites ago to better represent that. -- 155.95.90.240 (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say both should be mentioned, considering the impact the events of the nuclear bombings had. Vivexdino (talk) 06:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Impact of which bombings