Talk:Autosexuality

message: Normally people would say (Autosexual is a very specific term used by sex researcher Bernard Apfelbaum in his contributions specifically to "Principles and Practice of Sex Therapy." Very clearly, it refers to someone who has a great deal of trouble responding to someone else sexually but can respond fairly or very well to their own touch. They usually are attracted to others and fantasize about others, but what they RESPOND to is their own touch. Apfelbaum points out that this population is very undercounted because they often simply live in this way, and do not seek out partners. This is patholigized by our society and leads to isolation, confusion, condemnation, years of pointless psychotherapy trying to fix something that aint broke, and enormous pressure on a marriage. I know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.19.75.9 (talk) 04:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Autosexual

message: On April 11, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion.  The result was keep.  See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Autosexuality for a record of the discussion. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 18:37, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD

message: The old article is available at Autoeroticism/History1.
Brisvegas 01:29, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved that old page history back to autoeroticism. It should never have been moved in the first place. Graham87 10:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge complete

message: with having spent the majority of my adult life as a so-called autosexual, even though i am homosexual, that this article represents a normalization of the categorization of sexuality and thereby its control! if you're interested in this idea see my comments recently posted ( by DEV) on the talk page of the "gay" or the "dionysian art students" post on the "hippie" article talk-page.
:who cares if it's 'controlling', the fact is that such a category DOES exist and thus wiki is obliged to report it. categorisition is a human instinct and very much real, wikipedia does not exist as a means for social change. 81.107.159.5 19:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article is lame! thought policing is lame! 

message: The article suggests that people who are autosexual prefer to masturbate rather then have sex. It then goes on to suggest that these people are exclusively atttracted to themselves. I know very little about this subject but it strikes me as likely that some people who prefer to masturbate rather then having sex still don't focus on themselves but rather other people or pornography or whatever. Nil Einne 20:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is some research on this topic, but most of it is so controversial that it doesn't meet the guidelines of WP:RS. But then again, a truer definition of autosexuality is that the person is erotically aroused by themeselves, and not necessarily prefers masturbation. (For an example of how far out some other theories are, one sexologist concluded that if twins were autosexual they would also wish to have sex with each other. Too many issues. ) --ElaragirlTalk|Count 15:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article a bit confusing 

message: TednAZ - 26 Feb 2007
::AUTOSEXUALITY is NOT a common sexual orientation... it belongs in the "Other classifcations" heading in the Sexual Orientation/Sexology box, not listed under the "Common classifications" heading.  Autosexuality is a SUB-topical sexual orientation, most likely belonging under Asexuality - I'll let someone else do the research on that.  I am a sexual creature and have no desire to research those who are not.  According to the most recent sexuality research released from [ABC News], [CNN] and other media organizations, there are only FOUR major sexual orientations: Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual and Asexual, albeit they said that Asexuals only make up 1 to 1.5% of the general poulation.  Knowing those figures, how can Autosexuality be considered as common?  Also, many Asexuals still have sex with themselves, so would that not make them somewhat Autosexual?  Again, if Asexuals, considered one of the four major sexual orientations, make up only one percent of the population, then Autosexuals would make up a small sliver-like component of that select group which is something I liken to an analogy of the earth's atmospheric elemental components... 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, 1% Argon and then the rest is simply listed as 'other' gasses.  
::If you want to see unscientifically see just how common the term is... just type in any order "asexual sexual orientation" without quotes on a search engine.  I did on Google and came up with 177,000 examples.  Then, type in "autosexual sexual orientation" - again, in any order, not using quotation marks in  the search window.  On Google, I got 2,540 results or 0.01 of Asexual results.  Shoot, I typed my first and last name (which is fairly uncommon) plus my city and state and produced way more results than that.  That pretty much sums it all up and puts this sliver-group subtopical sexual orientation in its place, certainly not as a common classification.  There are no sexuality textbooks or reference books, no published studies, no research statistics anywhere that classifies Autosexuality as a common sexual orientation.  This is not in any way, shape or form meant to be an attack on someone who identifies as Autosexual, only that it does not belong in a major or common classification box on Wiki.  It is generally accepted there are three or four major sexual orientation classifications, depending upon which research you adhere to, however, adding in other types as common, muddies the waters of sexuality and orientation of the LGBT community.  My sexual orientation, bisexual (the 'B' in LGBT), using the same search criteria as above, produced 1,110,000 results, so that would mean Autosexual would have 0.00002 of that finding.  Not so common, after all... is it? Someone tell TED to stop TednAZ 19:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007 - It's not so common 

message: I propose moving this page to Autoeroticism (currently a redirect to here).  A google search for autosexuality produces very few results, and most of them on myspace or using the word to mean 'masturbation'.  Fireplace 13:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: The article starts off nonsensically: "Autosexuality describes someone .."
which it does not. "Autosexuality" is a noun not a describer.  Then "An autosexual is a term used ... to describe a population". The rest of the article is in similarly poor English, no matter if it has other merits.--SilasW 19:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for rewrite 

message: The article is now reduced to a one-line unreferenced dictionary entry.  And the word isn't in the dictionary.  How long must this sit out here before being deleted?--Doyleb23 21:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candidate for deletion 

message: The term autosexual is found in only 11 citations in PubMed, two in 2002, and the rest older than 1990. It is a term not recognized by the NIH as an activity or as a preference.  The scientists that used this term in the two 2002 articles have actually used a word that has no meaning.  It is neither a condition nor a preference.  And as a subject, there are NO studies at all.  There are no citations where autosexuality is the subject of the the study itself. 
Sexuality is complicated enough. Why add to it the confusion of a meaningless term? Why the new label?  Are the persons that describe themselves as autosexual truly narcissistic and not have any orientation toward another sex? or is it any number of possible reasons why they only have sex with themselves (without listing, I think anyone came come up with one or two snide ones).
oh oh my browser editor is underlining in red all these references to autosexual and autosexuality.
--Doyleb23 18:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only sources in the article clearly used "Autosexual" as a synonym for masturbation, so I have redirected the article there Gwernol 14:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Term without meaning  

message: A redirection of this term to masturbation has already been properly concluded (22 January 2008).
1 There is a complete lack of any mention of this term in any standard medical dictionary or encyclopaedia, eg, those provided by the National Institutes of Health.
2 The term is used solely as a euphemism for masturbation in three Pubmed journals that I properly cited (therefore, this is not a point of view, it is exactly as I have describe, a euphemism).
3 There exists not one scientific study on the phenomenon described here as a sexual orientation toward the self, as a sexual preference over partnered sex.
Until such publication exists, giving us something that can be properly cited, that this is a condition or pathology or however one might describe this, the term remains nothing but an unscientific word describing, as has been concluded before, masturbation.  When such publication exists, I welcome Wiki contributors to add this term to this encyclopaedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doyleb23 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert to the proper redirection to masturbation  

message: Most people who masturbate are not (at least primarily) autosexual, and redirecting autosexuality to masturbation is comparable to redirecting homosexuality to anal sex. I believe it would be better to remove the entire article than to redirect it to an entirely different article to avoid confusion. The reasons given above are in my opinion poor as there are other articles without scientific proof, and the redirect may cause confusion in those who have not heard of the term before.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.177.239 (talk) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autosexuality redirecting to masturbation 

message: As is often the case there is too much over analysis. It boils down to "Whatever works" . If a person can achieve a greater sexual satisfaction on their own without having the hassles of personal commitment or involvement , then they will do so. It actually uncomplicates ones life .WE don't always seek out a partner for sex , sometimes it is an intellectual attraction, sometimes simple friendship, sex is a different commodity for everyone , it is sometimes simply physical, sometimes loving, sometimes a duty . Let's stop over analyzing and just enjoy whatever works. relax C.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.135.142 (talk) 20:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto sexual behaviour.