Talk:Kind of Blue

message: Relevant comments about this album at Talk:Time Out (album)#RIAA's first Platinum jazz album?. Dan56 (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIAA, platinum jazz album 

message: The references 11, and 12 refer to the page 299 of Ashley Kahn´s Kind of Blue: The Making of the Miles Davis Masterpiece., but the Kahn book with the IBSN mentioned has only 224 pages according to Amazon. -- Trou Noir (talk) 12:08, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Not to denigrate this great album, but the article says it's considered "one of the greatest albums of all time" about half a dozen times throughout the text. Okay, we get it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8101:6A37:791E:365D:CD23:EE4B (talk) 18:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: My "greatest" count reaches 10. But a shame, in my view, that we can't turn it Up to eleven. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

text: I removed one "greatest" as it appeared redundant in its given section. The others seem appropriate, given the contexts in which they appear (even if do appear to some as being overly numerous).--JayJasper (talk) 18:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs some editing/condensing 

message: In light of a recent edit war--*sighhhhhh*..... Should the existing description of Miles Davis in the opening sentence of the lead--"American jazz trumpeter, composer, and bandleader"--be reduced to "American jazz musician"? Dan56 (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, but just because he's a composer doesn't mean that he wrote the material on this album. (Or on any of his albums; it could be that he only composed for others.) So if the goal is to clarify that he wrote the songs on this album, that's the wrong way to go about it. Korny O'Near (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would certainly suggest it, strongly. Just as saying he's a trumpeter would suggest he played trumpet on this album. Dan56 (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  And I would suggest just as strongly that we follow almost every other article about jazz albums and keep the lead succint. LK (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's a thin line between succinct and scant that you're failing to see. There's also the fact that every article is different and your idea of a "succinct" opening description will be less sufficient at one article than it would at another. Dan56 (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Description of the recording artist for this album 

message: * No - "Musician" is vague--obviously the opening line for any album article will be this is an album by some fucking "musician" of some sort--and it doesn't hurt the prose in any way by adding a few extra words that actually give the reader some useful information about this album's artist. You know, some clue as to what his role is? Dan56 (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes 

message: , I'm sure jazz aficionados will find it unnecessary, but these articles are aimed at the layperson "People who read Wikipedia have different backgrounds, education and opinions. Make your article accessible and understandable for as many readers as possible. Assume readers are reading the article to learn. It is possible that the reader knows nothing about the subject, so the article needs to explain the subject fully." And otherwise music fans who know nothing of jazz--since it's dying in the mainstream--won't consider the artist of the album the de facto composer; they'll just as likely assume he doesn't write what he plays. Perhaps ditching "bandleader" only, since it's suggested in the following sentences' discussion of "Davis's sextet"? Dan56 (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, but just because he's a composer doesn't mean that he wrote the material on this album. (Or on any of his albums; it could be that he only composed for others.) So if the goal is to clarify that he wrote the songs on this album, that's the wrong way to go about it. Korny O'Near (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would certainly suggest it, strongly. Just as saying he's a trumpeter would suggest he played trumpet on this album. Dan56 (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  And I would suggest just as strongly that we follow almost every other article about jazz albums and keep the lead succint. LK (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's a thin line between succinct and scant that you're failing to see. There's also the fact that every article is different and your idea of a "succinct" opening description will be less sufficient at one article than it would at another. Dan56 (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

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message: * Support the restoration. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes 

message: This seems very contorted:
  pianist Wynton Kelly, ... with former band pianist Bill Evans appearing on most of the tracks in place of Kelly
Shouldn't it be something like:
 pianist Bill Evans with new pianist Wynton Kelly appearing on one track.
- Immigrant laborer (talk) 16:15, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverse the pianist credits? 

message: I can see that you believe it should be noted that if an album had tracks one to five on side one and tracks one to four on side two, then it should be announced in the track listing section that the compact disc is numbered it tracks one through nine. I'm sorry but I feel that this little tag placed at the bottom of every track listing scans terribly on the page, and indeed insults the reader's intelligence. Since a compact disc has no sides, of course the track listing format does not indicate any, so tracks are numbered through rather than broken up into sides with side two starting off at one again. I don't think that needs to be reiterated. PJtP (talk) 02:31, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Which reader? The teenage reader who "accounts for only seven percent of CD sales", if they even buy and know what a CD is? Dan56 (talk) 04:23, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Compact disc track numbering

message: This edit does not constitute vandalism, nor does it change the meaning or context of the material, nor does it include information not found in already cited sources. It includes incremental changes made in good faith to improve the previous version of this paragraph, which had several areas in need of improvement: 
1) the letter 'a' in 'alto' was incorrectly capitalized  
2) the sentence's readability is hindered by its clumsy grammar and punctuation as well as its long length 
3) the events mentioned near the end of sentence were listed non-chronologically: the mention of 'Kelly...November, 1958' precedes 'Cobb...May, 1958' 
4) the sentence as written states that the pianist (Evans) was replaced in 1958, but that a drummer was added— the latter is incorrect, as the previous lineup also had a drummer (Philly Joe Jones) who was replaced in 1958 by Jimmy Cobb.
Hagaland (talk) 05:43, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes on 'Background' edit, 15–04–22 

message: What is the point in the 3,495,572 (with reference) under certified sales, when it has been certified platinum 5 times in the US (i.e., sales over 5 million)? 
1) It's out of date: It went platinum one more time since this reference was added.
2) Surely the certification agency is the best source.
If it wasn't a good article I'd just do this myself, but perhaps I'm missing some nuance here. Dhalamh (talk) 09:34, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggestion was boldy implemented. Citing online magazine Vulture over the RIAA is ridiculous. Cambial — foliar❧ 10:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certified sales 

message: 1. The SACD booklet gives 5:37 for "Blue in Green", instead of 5:27.
2. The booklet with the SACD says that the tape recorder was running at the wrong speed for the first three tracks, so they were played back sharp and faster on all releases until the gold Mastersound release.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to make a note (or footnote) of these, all referenced to reliable sources, of course... a la Agharta (album)#Track listing. But the main listing of lengths should be the originals, I think. 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 13:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, except maybe list both times.  I presume that the ones on the SACD are different from the originals, but I don't know. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:18, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playing times