Talk:Back to the Future timeline/Archive 3

message: Someone keeps editing the page to add information about Nixon being re-elected in November 1976 and 1980. This is all speculation. The only information we have from the movie is that, in May 1983, Nixon announced he was running for a fifth term. That fact doesn't support the speculation about his winning previous elections — as was pointed out earlier in this talk page, there are several different ways for someone to become president. Moreover, the editor assumes that the Constitutionally-mandated election date is still valid. Yet this timeline is so skewed that parts of the Constitution are no longer valid; we already know that the 22nd Amendment has been revoked, for instance. There is no reason to assume that other parts of the Constitution also dealing with presidential elections are intact. -- Ritchy 17:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As you yourself pointed out and repeated several times in your post, this is only one possible explaination. The most possible one, one could argue, but not the only possible one, and there is nothing actually shown in the movies to support it over any other. Hence, it is speculation, not a fact shown in the movies, and doesn't belong on the page. -- Ritchy 14:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nixon Election

message: When Doc modifies a locomotive to serve as a time machine (finishing it c. 1895) and travels forward to some point in the future to retrofit it to be able to fly, then travels back to 1985, wouldn't that cause a ninth timeline to form?  (The original 8th being one where Marty and Jennifer never see Doc again after the DeLorean is destroyed, and Marty has to take care of Einstein as Doc never returns for him; the ninth starting when Doc returns to 1985 to say good-bye to Marty and Jennifer, and takes Einstein with him to whatever time he goes to after the train leaves 1985).  Not sure if that's notable enough to include but it would seem consistent with the way the rest of the timeline is presented.  Any thoughts whether it's worth added Timeline 9 or not?75.70.125.3 13:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, there are a lot more timelines. What about the multiple trips Doc made to the future to fit the Delorean with a Mr Fusion and a hover-conversion and to track down what went wrong with Marty's family? What about all the trips Doc must have made to collect all his "emergency money"? The problem is, we have no way of knowing how many such trips occured, or to when, or what happened in them. So we have to limit the page to trips that are shown in the movies, and ignore the ones that are hinted/referenced/alluded to. -- Ritchy 14:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: we can't know what effect the conversation between jennifer, marty, doc, and clara has on the future, if any, so while it's correct that there is a 9th timeline, we know nothing about it, and it may be almost identical to the 8th timeline. there is also jennifer and marty's knowledge of doc and clara's fate, but that probably won't change the future either. Sahuagin 16:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: actually i was thinking about this today. i can't remember but if doc and marty's last conversation occurs before marty makes his decision not to race needles, then it's very probable that the conversation is directly responsible for that decision, and the 9th timeline is therefore very different from the 8th. Sahuagin 14:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's after. Marty decides not to race Needles, then Jennifer figures out the truth about time travel, then Marty takes her to the DeLorean's remains, and then Doc and his family appear in the time-train. Then, end credits. There's nothing in the movies after the last conversation between Doc and Marty. -- Ritchy 14:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Isn't there a ninth timeline technically?

message: Okay, so what's the source for Biff getting killed by Lorraine in 1996 in the timelines where Biff gets rich off of foreknowledge of sports events?  —  Rickyrab | Talk 16:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 1996

message: Does anyone know where some of the birth dates comes from - stuff like Milton Baines, Sam Baines - who says they were born in 1910? This article is packed with trivia, which is by its nature trivial! If no-one comes forward by, say July 29th to offer where a lot of the trivial 
details come from is it ok if I remove certain details?
Breed3011 08:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They're official dates from the Bobs. PMA 14:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not seen this kind of trivia come from the movie, the DVD extras or published interviews with them.  Especially in this movie series, you cannot assume that a character is the same age as the actor playing him -- makeup enables them to portray any age the director wants.  If it's not generally known among fans, please cite the source or remove. GUllman 20:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivial unsourced dates

message: In one paragraph of Timeline 4, the statement about Doc's failure to notice Old Biff's departure time on the DeLorean's readout is in italic font to indicate that Doc presumably fails to notice that.  Is this correct? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 03:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italic text