Talk:Bukhtishu

message: The whole Bakhtishu family was Assyrian and belonged to the Assyrian church of the east (Nestorian).
  Proper name: Bukht-yishu
  Race/Ethnicity: Assyrian (Ashuri)
  Religion: Nestorian Christians
  Language: Syriac (Eastern Dialacts)
  Syriac: Only spoken by Assyrian (Ashuri) with it's two dialacts.
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The name Bakhtishu according to (كتاب عيون الأنباء في طبقات الأطباء) Kitab oyoon al anbaa fe tabaqat al atebaa from the 12th century for ابن أبي أصيبعة ibn abi usaybia means ومعنى بختيشوع عبد المسيح لأن في اللغة السريانية البخت العبد ويشوع عيسى عليه السلام  (servant of  Jesus) in Syriac language . Also you should mention that Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu became Bishop of Mousel (893 CE) (northern Iraq) الموصل العراق  .Also this family moved to Baghdad and later on to Northern Syria .Hope this helps to expand the articles --Aziz1005 16:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My sources does not say they were Persian it says they were syriac originally from Iran ;  Irani does not necessarily  mean Persian .Persian is ethnic group while Iranian refers to  a country (Iran).BTW Syria was never part of Persia and how sassanid empire related to the article ; the article talks about some one from the Islamic era not Pre-islamic era .--Aziz1005 20:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your source says that they spoke Syriac. Khoikhoi 20:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most sources say they were native speakers of Syriac. Philip Jenkins' book is too general and he mentions Bakhishu in just one sentence, anyway, the whole chapter revolves on the contribution of Syrian Christians (or Assyrians) to civilisation. More dedicated sources can be found in the following books Poverty and charity in Middle Eastern contexts, 17e Congrès international des sciences historiques. It is also noteworthy that their Arab contemporaries mentioned them as Syriacs (سريان) and never as Persians (فرس).--Rafy talk 23:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: They are Assyrian

message: *"Persian" is not necessarily an ethnic designation. The name "Persia" was the official name of Iran before 1935. However, "Iran" also was used as far back as 300BCE. 
*A lot of people spoke Syriac then. It was a major lingua franca of western Sassanid Persia, according to sources. Even Mani (prophet) wrote his books in Syriac, as was the Sassanid civil code. But Pahlavi was also the major language. But even pahlavi has direct influences of Aramaic.
*Donald Hill specifically says "Nsibin" (in today's northwestern Syria) to be part of the Persian Empire in the Sassanid age. Ive givn the details of the reference.
*It is relevant because Gondeshapur was an institution founded in the Sassanid age, not Abbasid age. The Bikhtishus were the main transmitters of that heritage.
Regardless, I've already added all the information proposed by User:Aziz1005 to expand the article.--Zereshk 21:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I got your point, I wish all other users can explain the way you explain and do not take things offensively. I Came from Syria and I know people who still can speak Aramaic and Syriac there are a lot of similarity in these languages and other Middle Eastern languages in particular Arabic Hebrew (Semitic languages) and perhaps Persian. Also In fact all Middle Eastern languages & people have affected each other thus you can not say that there is a pure ethnic group or language. Thanks again Zereshk --Aziz1005 03:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarifications

message: I have a book that says this family was Church of the East. Why is there a dispute about what type of Christianity they followed? I would like to clean up this page. GoutComplex (talk) 22:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persian or Eastern