Talk:Zipper

message: Wouldn't it cause less confusion to change the article on the clothing fastener from zip to zipper? We'd also save on disambiguation... --Uncle Ed 19:06, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. - Patrick 19:52, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: As the zipper seems to have been invented, patented, and initially manufactured in North America the term "zipper", if it's an "American" one, seems to be the appropriate one to use. Why would the UK term be the most appropriate? en.wikipedia.org serves the English language as a whole, not the UK version of the English language. By the way, I'm not an American, I'm a Canadian who lives a few kilometres from Gideon Sundback's original Lightning Fastener Company factory in St. Catharines, Ontario. Imarsman 19:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zip 

message: I was Browzing the commons when i came acrose this sweet animation.  Is it apropriat to but moving animations in an artilce?
This  seems like a must have for the artivle but then again sombody may object to animations in an artile so i am bringing it to the talk page.  I did not make it--E-Bod 02:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This Zipper animation is a better link to use.  I am proposing moving it into the article other than just a link.  Good idea? Bad Idea?--E-Bod 03:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Can someone please make a reverse animation of the wonderful zipper? It should be quite easy and would be informative for the spatially challenged. Xiner 17:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Cerniera_lampo_chiude.gif Zipper animation] 

message: I tried to find external reference about "Excoffier zipper" which is mentioned in the History section. However, I could not find any reliable resource in the internet with google, yahoo, msn. The closest result which is not original or quote from wikipedia is about Excoffier's zipper algorithm in computational biology. Please check this piece of information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoangmit (talk • contribs) 16:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is Excoffier zipper? 

message: Google has many instances of the term"Reverse Coil Zipper", but Wikipedia doesn't know what it is.  (And neither do I.)
66.67.213.62 04:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reverse Coil Zipper" 

message: Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but this part
"A special type of metal zipper is made from pre-formed wire, usually brass but sometimes other metals too. Only a few companies in the world have the technology. TALON is the pioneer of this zipper in the world. These type of pre-formed metal zippers are mainly used in high grade jeanswear, workwear, etc., where high strength is required and zippers need to withstand tough washing."
together with the link to "Talon Zippers "The Original American Zipper"" seems like inappropriate promotion of that company to me. If no one objects, I'll make it less so.Crana 01:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Company promotion?

message: The first paragraphs of the History section appear to have been vandalized.  Unfortunately, there have been several intervening edits, even including spelling & grammar corrections to the vandals' text, so it's hard to tell what should be there.  Could the original contributors take a look?--Theodore Kloba 22:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism on History Section 

message: Why is there two different sections named History of the Zipper? This makes the article confusing and annoying to read.
60.240.143.88 04:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double section. 

message: I have seen garments with a zipper-style closure made from two continuous beads. One is shaped like a plus in cross section, the other is c-shaped, with an inside that forms to the plus. When these are put together, they hold closed. And there is a shuttle that runs from end from end that does and undoes the bead for you. It's essentially a souped-up version of the type of closure found on a Ziploc-bag. It shares the problem with those closures that once the closed side pops open, the opening expands in size with little effort (like a run in fabric) unlike a true zipper.
Is this not a form of a zipper? If it were not, why are these called zipper storage bags? Maybe this should be mentioned here and zipper storage bags linked to. Bollinger 20:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Ziploc-type zippers? 

message: I can't find anything to support the vague claims of opposition by clergy as being a cause of delayed acceptance.  Did someone just make this fact up?  Perhaps the paragraph should be moved to limbo until support can be found. 24.178.185.123 (talk) 02:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clergy opposition? 

message: I'm curious as to the source that claimed 68% of the world's zippers came from Japan. The Guardian implied that China made 80% of the zippers, so there's obviously a conflict. Someone oughta get to the bottom of the barrel here. —  Rickyrab | Talk 03:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan vs. China

message: Most modern zippers are plastic coil zippers.  The article does state this, but it is buried.  We need diagrams and pictures of coil zippers.
It seems that there are three kinds of zippers:  metal teeth, plastic teeth, and plastic coil.  It seems like there are no metal coils -- true?  Why?  It seems like metal zippers always have metal sliders, but that plastic zippers can have metal or plastic sliders.  It would be good if the article brought out these basic facts more clearly.
The teeth or coils are sometimes called elements.
-69.87.203.201 (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coil zippers 

message: It is very difficult to locate information about zipper sizes.  Please add to the article!
The most common sizes are #3, #5, #8, and #10.  Some sources say that these numbers correspond to the width of the zipper in mm.  Which logically would also correspond to the width of the opening of the slider?
Another source says, for YKK:
 Width of a closed zipper (not including the zipper tape)
 #3 coil = .165 in ~~ 5/32 in
 #5 coil = .275 in ~~ 17/64 in   #5 tooth = .225 in ~~ 7/32 in
 #8 coil = .284 in ~~ 9/32
 #10 coil = .417 in ~~ 27/64   #10 tooth = .335 in ~~ 11/32 in
It seems that parts may not be interchangeable between brands, and that the only way to be certain the parts will work fully is to buy a zipper and slider together.
-69.87.203.201 (talk) 03:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size 

message: the link to the patent that is within the paragraph doesn't lead to anything. Neither does the external link to the radio show. whoever originaly put the up should see if there was a typo, or if the things they have linked to have been taken down  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.188.253 (talk) 20:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken links  

message: Ok i live in st.catharines ontario which is in truth the place where it was invented.
the first zipper factory  was even here.  this needs to be mentioned somewhere  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.86.162 (talk) 22:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: Works of Swiss Inventor :de:Martin Othmar Winterhalter is missing in article. 188.96.181.140 (talk) 19:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That observation looks to me absolutely correct!! Kipala (talk) 08:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History:  [[Martin Othmar Winterhalter]]  

message: What about a section of double zippers, both luggage and jacket types?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palacesblowlittle (talk • contribs) 00:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double zipper 

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thread_title:  Thank you Wikipedia! 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Sundback registered his invention (for the first time?) in 1909 in Germany. Thus the sentence about him starting research after the death of his wife is obviously not correct. I change that, although the actual sequence (when did he start own work, why in Germany) is not clear. The entry on Gideon Sundback looks better resear hed in this aspect and says that he started improving the fastener starting from 1906, right after immigrating into the US in 1905 (after having studies in Germny, so that is a connection). I would guess that he may have improved his German patent later for the 1917 US-patent but that is only guesswork. I have some memory that back then patents had to be registered in many countries. Anyway the modern zip as it is then was a development by the Swiss :de:Martin Othmar Winterhalter who bought the European rights from Sundback and modified the design to the present form. Obviously much of invention history draws on sources motivated or influenced by some kind of jingoism / nationalistic bias.   Kipala (talk) 07:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: German patent 1909 , Swiss development after 1923

message: This source is a jumble of information on history, with erratic grammar, noticeable redundancy, inconsistent spelling of Sundback's name, and abundant weasels. Note this part about Judson:
:On August 29, 1893, he patented his new "hookless fastener." The earliest zip fasteners were being used in the apparel industry by 1905, but they weren't considered practical until after an improved version was developed by Gideon Sundback, a Swedish scientest working in the United States. When the B. F. Goodrich Company decided to market galoshes with hookless fasteners, the product became popular. These new galoshes could be fastened with a single zip of the hand, and soon hookless fasteners came to be called "Zippers" . By the 1920s, zippers were widespread use in clothing, luggage, and many other applications.
Other parts of the text indicate that Judson began to manfacture his device soon after the patent, so clearly some sales were occurring, which means "practical" and "popular" are POV in the source. What seems clear is that Judson's device was useful for shoes but had not yet been applied to garments. I am revising the section accordingly. Martindo (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ansun Multitech 

message: This is? (Hey, war's over. Don't revert, but do address a casualty. Please.) --Skews Peas (talk) 18:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not an improvement 

message: Cleb Cleberson? 2600:1700:63E0:1F90:7CE6:C48:815F:F035 (talk) 01:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Cleb Cleberson”??