Talk:Condorcet paradox

message: What's the conflict?--Chealer 07:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "This is paradoxical, because it means that majority wishes can be in conflict with each other."

message: I'm missing the paradox in the second example; it looks to me like the group is evenly split, which is not a paradox. Nobody thinks it's contradictory if we have two people vote differently.  -- Sotek.
I agree with Sotek -- there is no paradox apparent in the examples cited, since in each case, no winner can be declared (except arbitrarily), since all candidates have an equal number of votes. I think something is missing here.
Agreed. I removed the example in question. 213.163.7.195 14:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with Example(s) 

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thread_title: [[Talk:Social Choice and Individual Values]]

message: ===Renaming to "Condorcet's paradox"===
Why was this page thus titled?  A quick Google search shows that "Condorcet's paradox" is not significantly less popular than "voting paradox", but the latter term is less useful.  How would you rewrite the sentence in the opening paragraph of Condorcet method that currently reads "Mainly because of Condorcet's paradox, a Condorcet Winner will not always exist in a given set of votes."?
Is Condorcet's paradox the only voting paradox?  One Web page states "A voting paradox is where the election outcome is not what we think it should be. " which indicates that Condorcet's paradox is an example of a voting paradox.
I'd argue for renaming this page "Condorcet's paradox", and having the page "voting paradox" either redirect to it, or reference it.
I agree - this should be renamed Condorcet's Paradox-- Annie
:The above discussion is not dated, but currently Google gives much less hits for "Condorcet's paradox" than for "voting paradox".--Chealer 07:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Condorcet Paradox" yields about 13,000 hits to "voting paradox"'s 16,000. I'd agree that the former term is more informative about the content of the article. - 128.12.91.154 01:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved to Condorcet paradox. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 00:23, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

text: Voting paradox →  – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Votingstuff (talk) 01:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Looks good. My thanks to everyone who participated. — MaxEnt 18:59, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: Why was this page thus titled?  A quick Google search shows that "Condorcet's paradox" is not significantly less popular than "voting paradox", but the latter term is less useful.  How would you rewrite the sentence in the opening paragraph of Condorcet method that currently reads "Mainly because of Condorcet's paradox, a Condorcet Winner will not always exist in a given set of votes."?
Is Condorcet's paradox the only voting paradox?  One Web page states "A voting paradox is where the election outcome is not what we think it should be. " which indicates that Condorcet's paradox is an example of a voting paradox.
I'd argue for renaming this page "Condorcet's paradox", and having the page "voting paradox" either redirect to it, or reference it.
I agree - this should be renamed Condorcet's Paradox-- Annie
:The above discussion is not dated, but currently Google gives much less hits for "Condorcet's paradox" than for "voting paradox".--Chealer 07:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Condorcet Paradox" yields about 13,000 hits to "voting paradox"'s 16,000. I'd agree that the former term is more informative about the content of the article. - 128.12.91.154 01:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming to "Condorcet's paradox"

message: I also favour the argument that there could be many different voting "paradoxes" and that this page covers only one of these.  (I don't know why we persist in attaching the word 'paradox' to every naive wish easily rebuked with a napkin and five minutes by anyone willing to show up with a sharp pencil.)   
One possibility is to rename the page "Condorcet voting paradox" so that the title remains meaningful without having to first read the article.  On the downside, there are quite a few inbound links, so the rename project would be tedious and annoying.  — MaxEnt 12:35, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename desired

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: moved to Condorcet paradox. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 00:23, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Voting paradox →  – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Votingstuff (talk) 01:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Looks good. My thanks to everyone who participated. — MaxEnt 18:59, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 9 January 2017 

message: As far as I can see User:Dialectric and Annie  both proposed above that the move be to Condorcet paradox not to Condorcet voting paradox, and this is both more concise and more common.
See   for two quick Googles. User:MaxEnt does suggest Condorcet voting paradox but only as one possibility. 
Condorcet paradox was also proposed by an anon long ago  and another more recently.  However the edit history is confusing, and not helped by unsigned comments! 
*Support renaming, but to Condorcet paradox. Relisting to allow it to be (re)considered. Andrewa (talk) 03:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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Looks good. My thanks to everyone who participated. — MaxEnt 18:59, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate proposal ''Condorcet paradox''