Talk:Ayodhya district

message: Given the continual attempts to change the name despite consensus against and closure/moratorium in the discussion above, I've added an edit notice to the page, visible in preview mode only, and set to expire 22 December 2022, which is three months after the end of the moratorium defined here, to give time to monitor behavior post-moratorium, and to consider removal or extension of the notice.  It can be removed at any time, given a consensus to do so. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: One reason the attempted changes keep happening may be due to the large number of mobile interface users who do not see the notice. There are various WP:Phabricator tickets open on this mobile deafness issue, and they've been there for some years. WMF development has their own prioritization procedures, of course, to determine what gets to the top of the queue to work on, but any registered editor is welcome to sign up for updates on a Phab ticket, or even to contribute to them.  The edit notices issue is tracked by phab:. For more on mobile web deafness generally, see WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU. Mathglot (talk) 19:17, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

text: , sure, busy with some stuff at the moment; I'm a bit forgetful–can you ping me in a day or two if I haven't done it by then? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:01, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  . , should be done, now. Can you check my work, read the notice, check that dates look correct, follow/check the links?  Thanks. Mathglot (talk) 06:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. All seems fine. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit notice 

message: The changes started right up again after semi-protection expired yesterday. I've requested renewal of it for a year. Mathglot (talk) 19:30, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @Mathglot We both requested it, a couple of hours apart 😅 — DaxServer (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  , darn, I've done that before; I should've checked first!  Let me go back and maybe strike or close my request.  Mathglot (talk) 20:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @Mathglot Perhaps merge both? — DaxServer (talk) 20:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   yours does the job. I also commented at it, suggesting 12 months; we'll see what happens. Mathglot (talk) 20:29, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection requested 

message: I have searched on internet very well in  last 3 days about this district. Ayodhya is the common name of this district. I have seen that many people already requested for change the title name as Ayodhya district but you didn't take any step towards it. But now you should change the Faizabad district title name as Ayodhya district. And change the Faizabad division as Ayodhya division because it also common name according to last searches on Google and available pages on internet. Ayodhya-prayagraj (talk) 07:24, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a similar proposal in March last year, but it resulted in no consensus. If the situation has changed since then, you're free to make another proposal, see WP:RM#CM for how to do that. – Uanfala (talk) 10:20, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Ayodhya-prayagraj - Please start by providing WP:Reliable sources to support each of the four claims you have made above 1) Newspapers, 2) Magazines, 3) News channels, and 4) Google searches. Please remember, we are only talking about the use of the name in English - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

text: It is bizarre to not have the correct name here. Note that a completely different standard is being applied to Pakistani names. So Neelum River, when the traditional and historic name (and the name still used in India) is Kishanganga River, or Muslim Bagh when the traditional name is Hindubagh. It is precisely this kind of thing which makes charges of a biased moderation and administrative system stick to Wikipedia. Authoritative, official names should be adopted rather than those driven by POV, which is what is happening here. --Hunnjazal (talk) 20:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Try reading the move discussions.  You can see links to them at the top of the page.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:42, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title name should be renamed as Ayodhya district 

message: * Proposed 18-month moratorium before the next move may be opened. It's getting *really* tiresome, and WP:DISRUPTive, to have to deal with these repeated move requests, which are made regularly, completely oblivious to the fact that nothing whatsoever has changed since the last one, and that the data does not support a move at this time, and that it is a giant time-waster for numerous editors. I have nothing against changing the title of this article, if and when article title policy supports it, but I *do* have something against being called here repeatedly, to state the same thing, over and over and over again. I don't doubt the good faith intentions of the OP, but this needs to be throttled down, so we don't waste editor time needlessly. Future good-faith editors should be gently reminded that this has been decided recently already. The next move request should not occur before September 14, 2024, when perhaps, the picture will be different.  Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 09:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It also may be worth pointing out that if you are to look at many local government websites for districts in India and Pakistan you will find content copy and pasted directly from English Wikipedia on them. It is quite likely that at least some of the recent news articles which used Faisabad district as the name did so simply because that is the title of this article. --عُثمان (talk) 01:07, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any analogous disputed article titles? Yes, I have seen them for other places in India, South Africa, and the Ukraine.  Some go one way, some go the other. Local people often do not like name changes - people in :Dnepropetrovsk called the police to try to stop council workmen cutting off the "petrovsk" in a sign in the city. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:46, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be another example of a city. I mean for an administrative entity distinct and named differently from a city contained within it. عُثمان (talk) 04:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dnepropetrovsk is an example.  The government renamed the city ":Dnipro" in 2016, but the oblast remained :Dnipropetrovsk oblast.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

text: @عُثمان title must be changed to Ayodhya district. it is commonly Known now. allahabad will also be changed after April 2023. Rahil1610 (talk) 18:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: I am from Bikapur town, in Ayodhya district. In last few years Ayodhya is the common name of this district. I don't want to show you any source for it. Because everyone knows that Ayodhya is now common name. Ayodhya district is good for the title name Bikapur (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "I don't want to show you any source for it" isn't really how things work round here... Dāsānudāsa (talk) 10:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: From my opinion Ayodhya is far common name than Faizabad WikiEdits2003 (talk) 15:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not what Google shows.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:51, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Where? – Uanfala (talk) 23:54, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Uanfala change the name as Ayodhya district. Rahil1610 (talk) 18:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

text: @Toddy1 obviously Google will show faizabad because it was official 2 years ago. Does it take 10-20 years to pass that count as according to you ??! what a stupid arguments. Rahil1610 (talk) 18:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

text: @Bikapur it's been more than 2 years and it is still as Faizabad. while officially declared as Ayodhya district. I agree. change it. Rahil1610 (talk) 18:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ayodhya district must be the title name  

message: move it as it's official and commonly being used. Rahil1610 (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The official name of this district is Ayodhya district since 2018. Wikipedia should change the title name as Ayodhya district. Ayodhya district is also now the common name of this district. Bikapur (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  - We use the Common names in English for our articles, not the "Official names", as changing the name breaks internal links to those articles, and is confusing to our readers: Bangalore was renamed Bengalūru, as the city's official name in 2006, but we still use Bangalore.As a longer standing example, Wien has been the official name of the capital of Österreich (another official name) for hundreds of years, but we won't be changing either name in the foreseeable future - Arjayay (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The name Ayodhya has always been enshrined in the hearts of the people. And this is the beloved name of this district. The common name of the city of Bengaluru is still Bangalore, for all I know. But the famous and common name of this district is Ayodhya and this is the correct name. If you don't want to change the name of Faizabad district on Wikipedia, don't change it but don't give useless examples which have no meaning. Bikapur (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Bikapur exactly my point, nobody says faizabad anymore. By the way he doesn't have the ownership of wikipedia. it will be changed after sometime. Rahil1610 (talk) 10:27, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

text: @Arjayay if you don't know, there is a feature of redirect for any other name in wikipedia, i wanna tell you. Official name is official afterall. it will be change. Rahil1610 (talk) 10:30, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  move Faizabad district to Ayodhya district 

message: Could someone please link the discussion for the overturning of the closure of this RM? Adding . Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: the MRV discussion at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2023 April, "Faizabad district", is linked in the MRV talk template at the top of this move request. Welcome. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 05:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been years, so ayodhya district should be named as ayodhya district. Not faizabad Rahil1610 (talk) 01:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Move Faizabad division to Ayodhya division also. Rahil1610 (talk) 01:38, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closure overturned—article renamed 

message: Hello, I was trying to look into ayodhya information and I was quite shocked that this article still uses old name, which at this point has become ancient history in India and for tourists looking to visit the city. I find this counterintuitive to wikipedias goal as being a free open encyclopedia of knowledge, when it refuses to change with times. I came across this trying to find places of interest in ayodhya for tourism purposes, given my coworker who is from this city references her city using "ayodhya" Yukmenk (talk) 01:39, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi @Yukmenk, you may be correct in some aspects, as you have stated that the rename will benefit tourists and provided an example of your coworker referring to it as Ayodhya. However, it is important to note that Wikipedia requires evidence to support claims and must follow the principle of WP:COMMONNAME. Technical evidence has been submitted by users in the Talk:Prayagraj discussion, which has resulted in a peaceful debate and subsequently renaming from Allahabad to Prayagraj. If you have strong evidence to support your proposal, please provide it here and request a move. However, please refer to the aforementioned discussion on the rename/move before doing so." 456legend(talk) 07:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Move review started here Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2023_April.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CapnJackSp (talk • contribs) 04:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request this be named to Ayodhya 

message: As the name of this page has been moved to Ayodhya district, so now the names of the pages like Faizabad division, (Kumarganj, Faizabad), (Amaniganj, Faizabad), (Maya Bazar, Faizabad) and Faizabad Cantt  be also changed to Ayodhya division, (Kumarganj, Ayodhya), (Amaniganj, Ayodhya), (Maya Bazar, Ayodhya) and Ayodhya Cantt respectively. Bikapur (talk) 08:28, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please change Faizabad division Wikipedia page title name