Talk:Money (The Office)

message: There really doesn't need to be so many "notes" and "references to other episodes". Wikipedia is trying to eliminate "trivia" sections that doesn't mean rename it that means put it in the synopsis or dump it.  This is a half hour TV show people(1 hour for this episode) the page about it doesn't need to be more than 3 screens full. The brief page about this episode should easily fit into one page maybe a page and a half since it is a two parter.  It should be a review of the episode NOT telling people everything they missed if they haven't seen it.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.117.88 (talk) 22:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: page too long

message: Did Angela say "no vegetables" or "no shellfish"?  The closed caption stated "no vegetables", but that seemed odd.  Did anyone else hear "no shellfish" like one of the other editors? Alanraywiki 18:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I definitely heard "no vegetables".  I don't know if it was a goof or not; I just thought it was strange, you know, because Angela is strange.  Saucemaster 23:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Goofs

message: The article says, "It turns out Michael isn't really responsible for the debt; it's Jan that [sic] keeps buying the non-essential items for their household".  I got the impression, however, that Michael was the one purchasing the non-essential items (e.g. two magic sets, "core strengthening" machine, etc).  The Porsche aside, isn’t Michael actually the one purchasing the non-essential items? Elcobbola 19:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Porsche aside?  The Porsche aside?  Porsches are not aside.  Plus, at the start of the episode they were arguing because Jan wanted to spend a lot of money to refurnish the condo.  Anyway, my conclusion was that they were both spending a lot on non-essential items, but that if Michael wasn't spending money on Jan, he would be able to afford the non-essential items that he was buying for himself. - Shaheenjim 22:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of the reason therefor (Jan), Michael was the one doing the actual spending.  That they are both needlessly expending funds, however, certainly seems to be the appropriate conclusion.  The concern was that the synopsis, in its previous state, attributed the spending solely to Jan, when she was likely the lesser of two evils.  Porsche Boxters are always an aside.  911s, on the other hand... Elcobbola 15:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Debt

message: The plot synopsis for this article is excessively long.  There is no need to retell every insignificant joke.  In fact, it's inappropriate to do so, since it might be copyright infringement.  A couple hours ago I shortened the plot synopsis, but someone reverted my edit.  I propose it be reshortened.  Comments? - Shaheenjim 04:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia "television episode" guidelines specify that the summary should not exceed ten words per minute of screen time. A one-hour episode has 40 minutes of screen time, so the cap is 400 words. I've been going through and cleaning up all the episode synopses (and enforcing the cap when people go back and break it); haven't gotten to this one yet. I'll get to it in the next few days. -- Raymondc0 19:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The 400 word cap is reasonable, and I'm all for shortening as long as the resultant synopsis makes sense and raises all points that are necessary to understanding the plot or could be significant in the ongoing storyline.  The Million Dollar Baby bit was a throwaway gag, for example, and I'm glad it's been removed.  However, it's an exaggeration to suggest that "every insignificant joke" was in previous versions.  For example, at no time did anyone include the attempts of Phyllis to use pop psychology on Angela, even though that was very funny and took up a significant amount of screen time.  And in any case, it's certainly not copyright infringement... that's really exaggerated. --74.184.151.205 21:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I might have been exaggerating.  But I was still right.  The current synopsis is excessive.  Even if it's under a 400 word cap, it's still excessive.  There is no need to retell any insignificant jokes. - Shaheenjim 21:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot synopsis length

message: In this episode Andy said, "I come from a line of WASPs so long it leads back to Moses."  Which is strange, since Moses wasn't a WASP.  It has been suggested that Andy was speaking metaphorically, but I see no evidence for that suggestion.  Andy is regularly depicted as someone who is stupid enough to think that Moses really was a WASP.  Comments? - Shaheenjim 22:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seemed clear to me that Andy was exaggerating. He's done it before, e.g. "I'm going to kill you for real". -- Raymondc0 01:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible to have exaggerated in the past, but still not know that Moses was not a WASP.  Also, the reason that we should explain in detail that Moses was not a WASP is that some people don't realize that he wasn't a WASP.  Like Andy.  That's what makes the joke funny. - Shaheenjim 02:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

text: The point is that if Protestant Christianity had existed in Moses's time, maybe Moses would have been a Protestant Christian.  Since he didn't have the option, we shouldn't imply that he consciously rejected it, and the note keeps us from making that unfounded implication. - Shaheenjim 03:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the entire note is unnecessary. It's just stating the obvious. -- Raymondc0 07:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I bet there are plenty of people who wouldn't find it obvious, and wouldn't have gotten the joke if it wasn't explained it them.  Have you ever seen Jay Walking on the Tonight Show? - Shaheenjim 13:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't realize Wikipedia had to explain things for people as stupid as those shown on Jay Walking. -- Raymondc0 14:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it should.  Jay Walking is actually a pretty accurate representation of the public.  All historical references should be explained. - Shaheenjim 22:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I'll let you explain all the Ben Franklin jokes in "Ben Franklin". -- Raymondc0 15:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember any.  I might need someone else to explain them to me.  But it doesn't matter.  My point is:  if someone else adds explanations of them, I won't delete them. - Shaheenjim 21:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moses

message: Here is a New York Times article covering the episode's impact on TripAdvisor if someone wants to incorporate it into the article. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

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message: It says it's 7th and 8th, but my sources (Netflix..) says it's S4E04. Cornelius (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The episode numbers shown here are NBC's, the original broadcaster. Hour-long episodes are considered two episodes, in this case 7 and 8. See also tv.com. —Bruce1eetalk 21:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Number incorrect? 

message: The excerpt read by Dwight is from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, not from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. 2601:482:8001:F520:1C93:405F:2ED3:C2B (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: — xaosflux Talk 12:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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