Talk:The Legend of Sleepy Hollow

message: some of the "film adaptations" arent from films such as the epsode of charmed and are you afraid of the darkm this may need editing a little bit. also what about the episode of scooby doo that features the headless horse man and maybe even a mentioning of sleepy hollow, i forget.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.184.153 (talk) 01:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Film Adaptations

message: The Modern Library anthology Irving: History, Tales and Stories  provides a chronology of Irving's life which shows that at the time Irving was staying at the Van Ness home in Kinderhook in the spring of 1809, he was writing A History of New York. It would be another 8 years before Irving began work on The Sketchbook of Geoffrey Crayon, Gent. (including Rip van Winkle and The Legend of Sleepy Hollow), at which point he had been residing in England for several years. Also major landmarks in The Legend are easily documented in what are now the villages of Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow. See List of locations related to The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Irving himself is buried within sight of the grave stone of Catriena Ecker Van Tassel and Abraham "Brom" Martling.
SHC 00:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend of Sleepy Hollow not based on Sleepy Hollow? 

message: Has copyright clearance been made for the artwork by Frank Frazetta? — Walloon 20:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Frazetta artwork

message: I read on a site, I'll find it later, that there really was Hessian whose head was shot off with a cannon, and his body was buried in a seperate part of the cemetary of Valatie and Kinderhook. This was part of where Irving got his story, or so I've read. Should we add this?
-Alex, 12.220.157.93 00:01, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Real horseman

message: Whether or not "van" is normally capitalized in Dutch surnames, Irving's story does capitalize it, in all usages, including when the surname stands alone. — Walloon 05:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Van Tassel

message: I have revised the sentence, "The denouement of the fictional tale is set at the bridge in the real location of the Old Dutch Burying Ground in Sleepy Hollow (formerly North Tarrytown), adjacent to Sleepy Hollow Cemetery." The Sleepy Hollow Cemetery did not exist when the story was written (much less when the story was set). I'm sure the author of that sentence knew that, but some readers may be confused and assume that it was around in Ichabod's time. The "External Links" at the bottom of the article does provide the distinction that the Sleepy Hollow Cemetery was founded in 1849, and is adjacent to but separate from the Old Dutch Burying Ground. — Walloon 11:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sleepy Hollow Cemetery

message: The article doesn't make mention of the 1980 version with Jeff Goldblum. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079453/ Hackwrench 03:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now it does. Thanks for the tip. — Walloon 05:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1980 version takes a number of liberties with the original story.  For instance, it depicts Ichabod Crane as a skeptic regarding the supernatural (in the story, Crane was quite superstitious).  As I recall, Crane doesn't mysteriously disappear at the end, but actually wins over Katrina from Brom Bones.  It's been a long time since I've seen this film, though, so I was reluctant to add too many details to the article.97.73.64.169 (talk) 13:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 1980 version with Jeff Goldblum

message: There is an image linked in the short story infobox at the top of this article. But the image is not showing. Why? Is there some formatting error? — Walloon (talk) 17:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, sorry I didn't see this sooner. The short story infobox does not have a parameter for images. You'll have to use the book infobox instead. In theory, though, the image in the box should be for a picture of the story itself (i.e. its first publication), not an illustration. See what I did at "The Murders in the Rue Morgue" if you want to pursue this still. --Midnightdreary (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Short story infobox

message: Worth mentioning here. Though it seems illogical or counter-intuitive to have "background" come after the "plot", I think this is the best way to go. Shoving aside the guidelines from the short story task force, it makes sense that readers of this article come to see what the story is about first, well before all the other nitty-gritty stuff. Thoughts? --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot summary and background

message: The information box at the upper right has an illustration with the caption "Ichabod pursued by the Headless Horseman", and "by F. O. C. Darley, 1849".
I am skeptical that this is really a Darley illustration, for these reasons:
1) The facsimile edition of the 1852 edition of "The Sketch Book" with Darley's illustrations (1981, Sleepy Hollow Press), which was meticulously recontructed from the three best copies (printed in 1948, 1852, & 1854) of the Darley-illustrated editions still in existence, does not have that illustration. It is also not included in the list of 22 Darley illustrations in the book, which shows that the illustration is not just missing or cut out of the copy I looked at.
2) The artist's signature does not look anything like Darley's signature in that edition.
3) The artist's signature, though hard to read, does not look anything like "Darley". Darley's signature varied somewhat but in all cases was very easy to read.
4) The artistic style does not really look like Darley's.
Greg (talk) 00:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree with Greg. A quick Google search found this as a likely source for this information. Anyone want to keep digging? --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darley illustration? 

message: In the Plot, it says: 'who was "to look exceedingly knowing whenever the story of Ichabod was related" Mr Toad and his horse leave because they were too late to stop the horseman'.
I just referred to the original text and confirmed there is no mention of a Mr Toad in it.  Is this possibly a mistake, referring to content from the derivative works, like Disney's short film based on the story?
Pshehane (talk) 19:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You came by the article just in time to see some short-lived vandalism, which was removed very soon after. --Midnightdreary (talk) 01:00, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. Toad? 

message: The Headless Horseman Pursuing Ichabod Crane - this painting is only mentioned in context of the famous Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Thus, I believe it is best suited in that article or the article about the character named Ichabod Crane. Mr T(Talk?) [ (New thread?)] 09:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[The Headless Horseman Pursuing Ichabod Crane]] 

message: walters hairline is like a wave it keeps on changing  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.234.213 (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  walter brooks needs a hair line 

message: if you had to what grade level is this book? 
Grayson Bills (talk) 13:03, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Scholastic says Grade 9. But I don't think grade levels should be added to articles like this, because both terminology and how reading level is assessed will vary by country. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

text: thanks this helps a lot I'm in 8TH grade and my teacher wants us to pick a book that we could read. Grayson R Bills 15:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  grade level of book 

message: In the plot, it reads:
Problems:
*How do we know this character was part of this battle?
*The New York and New Jersey Campaign is "some nameless battle"!?
--Mr. Guye (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some nameless battle 

message: The background section includes Burn’s Tam O’Shanter in a list of works featuring headless horsemen. But it doesn’t. 
There is only one horseman in TO’S and while Tam might lose his reason, and his horse her tail, his head, and guid blue bonnet are still firmly atop his shoulders by the finish. 
I’m not an editor and have no wish to be, so could someone fettle that next time they’re doing work on the page? Thanks. 
What T O’S *does* have in common with TLOSH is a ‘wild ride’ to gain the keyestone o’ the brig.  
A. Cowling
86.140.129.221 (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background: Tam O’Shanter 

message: I just wanted to hint towards the German-language Wikpedia page about this story. It goes into much more details regarding the ori9gins of the story. There's even a direct reference to a Rübezahl story from a collection by one Johann Karl August Musäus. Alrik Fassbauer (talk) 16:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: More on the story's origins on the German-language Wikipedia page

message: I've done a big, WP:BOLD overhaul on this article and I thought I'd leave some explanation. First, the Plot section, at over 1,100 words, was more of a retelling than a summary and contained copious quotes, skirting the line of WP:COPYVIO. I've shortened it drastically.
I also revised the WP:EXAMPLEFARM that was the Geographic Impact section. My first instinct was to broom the whole thing, but since several items have articles of their own, I thought it better to exercise discretion. I turned it into prose, which is preferable under policy anyway, and cut down the example cruft.
Any who disagree should engage IGF here on the talk page. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 07:26, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  My revisions 

message: I propose merging Ichabod Crane into this page. The Crane article is full of unsourced cruft and largely fictographical, as indicated by its maintenance tags (which have been there since 2017) and what little properly sourced material there is, is duplicated here. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 02:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal