Talk:EASE/ACCESS

message: Wow, nice work on this article! I love the heavy citing of source references! I don't know much about assessment, but I have tentatively placed this at "B-class", though I don't off-hand see why it shouldn't be classified higher. Because the article makes no direct claim that e.g. ISS design was influenced by these two missions, I'm hesitant to rate its importance to space exploration as highly important. Is that a misunderstanding on my part? (Sdsds - Talk) 06:24, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much for the praise!  You're probably right on importance, I doubt anyone could argue that EASE/ACCESS was "highly important" to space exploration, but if I get a chance I'll try to find more about its impact and add it to the article. — Swpb talk contribs 14:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: Is it possible to rename the article  using the move feature using the acronym: EASE/ACCESS  similar to other Space science experiments such as SSIES?  Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 03:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that the spelled-out name is preferred under Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations). — Swpbt & c 04:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Name

message: There's a small argument against a move, but the quoted guide clearly states that you should use the most common form. Looking at the references, you can clearly see that the short forms are used far more often than the long form, even within their own documentation. Moreover, a google search clearly shows that this is true in a wider context as well. I highly recommend a move, considering the side effects its having on everything from the category pages to various lists. Maury Markowitz (talk) 02:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You misstate the guide. WP:ABREV states that the spelled-out form is preferred unless the term is almost exclusively known only by its abbreviation and is widely known and used in that form. This case fails the second criterion, as the topic is not widely known at all. I forgot about this criterion when I requested the move, but in light of it, I now disagree with the move. » Swpbτ • ¢ 16:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving 

message: :Experimental Assembly of Structures in EVA and Assembly Concept for Construction of Erectable Space Structures → :EASE/ACCESS — More commonly used name. — Swpbτ • ¢ 02:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The simple fact of the matter is that NASA refers to this by the short form, which you can clearly see in the images in this page. NASA's name for this is the name we should use. It is not up to us to tell NASA what the name is, just so that we can robotically follow a suggestion on formating written by someone else. We have a brain for a reason, mine tells me that the damage that this long name does to the wiki on the cat pages and others is far greater than the damage it would do to the wiki by using the short forms, which are more proper anyway. WP:IAR. 17:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To me, the policy is clear and sensible, and having a long title affect a cat page doesn't strike me as a good reason not to call a thing by its actual name. » Swpbτ • ¢ 19:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps I'm not explaining myself well: ACCESS is the "actual name". That's what NASA calls it. It calls it that in all of the references. It calls it that in the images on this page. Heck, even you call it that on your own personal page. Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Compare and contrast: ASSET, X-23 PRIME, MESSENGER, MAVEN, STEREO, etc. There is a clear trend to use NASA's common naming for these projects. Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As per WP:NAME, I think Maury is right, and the article should be titled by its abbreviation. Reliable sources (notably NASA) usually call it "EASE/ACCESS", so we should called it "EASE/ACCESS". As Swpb pointed out, neither form is "widely know"; but NASA primarily uses the short form, which is what I think is important here. Mlm42 (talk) 17:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

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