Talk:Capgras delusion

message: when you believe a close relative (or any other person) has been replaced with someone else, without the necessity being same-looking? --Abdull 08:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Intermetamorphosis delusions perhaps? Georgia State Southwestern Univerisity abstract has a different take on the wiki definition. 74.178.201.186 (talk) 08:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What's it called

message: Is there a standard pronunciation of this in English?  Does it rhyme with 'grass', or with 'bra'? HenryFlower 21:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've always heard it pronounced as in the French origen of the name. i.e. rhymes with bra - Vaughan 06:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: * Thanks! HenryFlower --07:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: * Yes: Dorland's explicitly specifies the silent S.--Jerzy•t 07:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: The quote says "imposter" - should we perhaps correct the misspelling? 23 Feb 2008— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.114.165.252 (talk) 22:25, 23 February 2009
* This apparently concerns the section Capgras delusion#Presentation, where the 15:37, 17 December 2008 change by  changed the O to E and put scare quotes around the words, summarizing 
:: Presentation: corrected a spelling error and added "'s.
: And it turns out that that 
:: _ _ the 16:13, 14 October 2008 change by User:QuizzicalBee (along with unrelated changes) added a comma  between "other" and "unrelated" in the same passage,  _ _ the  03:55, 9 June 2007 change by User:Mordantkitten, unsummarized & tagged m for "minor" had changed E to O,   _ _ the still earlier 03:21, 3 May 2006 ones by   had respelled two -ise verbs (British spelling) to -ize ones (American) without summary in a section edit, and   _ _  the very early edit of 14:50, 18 August 2003 by User:Vaughan introduced the quoted passage.
: I am reverting all of the others back to Vaughn's 6-year old spelling and punctuation:
:: The subsequent edits were all, tho undoubtably in good faith, almost certainly mistaken and definitely made with inadequate caution. The only doubt as to the mistakes is that someone may have consulted the source Vaughn cited, and discovered that Vaughn mistranscribed; there is no doubt as to inadequate caution even in any such case, bcz Vaughn attested to the accuracy of the transcription both in stating it and formatting it as a quotation, and no reasonably cautious editor would contest their attestation without making it clear that they had checked against the same source, or replacing the source with their own at least equally reliable one; the only reasonable presumption is that Vaughn was right and they are, from whatever cause, wrong. As i say, it is crucial that this is a direct quote, and that none of them proposed replacing it with an admitted paraphrase. If you fix the spelling, or the punctuation (for grammar or for clarity), you can't call it a quote. Some of these editors may have not noticed they were inside a quote, and that implies a different form of carelessness.
: --Jerzy•t 07:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Spelling) 

message: Does the Capgras delusion depend on the supposed imposter being unknown to the sufferer? I ask because the example given mentions that the sufferer at times thought her husband had been replaced by her father, which appears to better fit the description given in the article on intermetamorphosis. Is that phenomenon merely a subset or special case of the Capgras delusion, or is it clearly distinguished by whether or not the supposed imposter is thought to be a stranger or another acquaintance? Could someone knowledgeable in the field edit one or both of the articles to clarify the definitions, as it appears at present that both intermetamorphosis and the Capgras delusion could describe the same phenomenon. Specifically, both articles give examples of people confusing two family members. 86.136.92.2 01:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While both of the same group classification, they are two seperate syndromes. It is under debate if this is even a sympton, or if is in its own right a mental illness. - TkTech 05:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intermetamorphosis

message: However, the term illusion has a subtly different meaning from delusion in psychiatry so "the Capgras delusion" is used as a more suitable name. It might be helpful to specify the difference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.152.37.121 (talk) 13:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or would it? --76.191.209.117 (talk) 01:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  An explanation of the subtle difference between illusion and delusion. 

message: Isn't this what the comedian Tony Rosato suffers from?  68.164.92.203 23:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  See details here.  JTBurman 21:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony Rosato 

message: "Who are you and what have you done with...?" is often heard on movies and TV - but it is often used humorously rather than seriously. Erudil 17:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that someone deleted this article and replaced it with a different one... 192.91.173.42 (talk) 20:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Who are you?

message: Does the syndrome occur more frequently in one sex as opposed to another?  Are there differences in the frequencies with which it occurs amongst male schizophrenics v female schizophrenics? male victims of brain injury v female victims? male victims of dementia v female victims? —12.72.70.54 (talk) 11:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The syndrome is rare enough that there are not enough data to make any conclusions on the relative prevelance of Capgras in men and women. Edhubbard (talk) 13:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, actually, the rarity of the syndrome could preclude establishing any suggestion of causal relationships between sex and prevalence, but determining actual prevalence itself is simply a matter of “counting heads”.  For example, if there were only three suffers, two of whom were men and one of whom was a woman, then it would be more prevalent in men, though nothing of significance would thus be shown. —12.72.72.248 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex Ratio Query whose Answers Should Perhaps Be Found in Article 

message: I have removed
: Ellis, H.D.; Whitley, J.; & Luaute, J.P. (1994). Abstract of "Delusional misidentification. The three original papers on the Capgras, Frégoli and intermetamorphosis delusions (Classic Text No. 17)". History of Psychiatry 5 (17) 117–146.
after going to the trouble of fixing its format & then finally looking at the page. It's actually far short of an academic-article abstract, and (unless it is more useful to someone with some kind of membership), following the link yields a message that EBSCO doesn't yet include the article.In any case, the link i found to the facsimile of the original probably obviates the other for all our purposes except a text that one could cut and paste from, or an English translation.--Jerzy•t 21:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless ref? 

message: Please restore the Section on the Capgras Delusion in Literature and Popular Culture. It is  a sad loss.  Das Baz, aka Erudil 18:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Star Wars novels, the Capgras Delusion afflicts a large group of young Jedi!!!  Das Baz, aka Erudil 19:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have restored the section, which has been removed by Nikkimaria without giving the reason, nor in the talk page, nor in the edit summary --JanusDC (talk) 09:00, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And I've re-removed it. The material in that section does not meet WP:IPC and does not include reliable secondary sources indicating the notability of these references. Nikkimaria (talk) 11:34, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Literature and Popular Culture

message: Does anyone know if there's any research about how Capgras would/might/does interact with prosopagnosia?  Prosopagnosia (at least some instances) has been correlated to functional deficits of parts of the fusiform gyrus that (I assume) is involved in face recognition/memory.  Capgras would seem to be a syndrome where the "output" of this area is not correlated correctly with other parts of the memory system.  But in prosopagnosia, there is no (or reduced) "output" from this area.  Does this mean that Capgras syndrome couldn't happen? Jimw338 (talk) 04:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen a few papers that posit Capgras is a 'mirror' of prosopagnosia - this one for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30416111 - & others that indicate Capgras comes from a disconnect between the part affected by prosopagnosia & the part that calls up the memories/emotions associated with the face (ie. the two pathways are functioning, but the linkage is defective). As someone mildly affected with prosopagnosia I'm always interested in learning more about it & related "disorders" - it's a shame how little we truly understand about our own brains LeviaThinMint (talk) 05:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capgras and Prosopagnosia? 

message: The delusion is common and usually harmless (acute put short-lived) in young children. It is not implausible that this is an innate fear, and that adult sufferers have not succeeded in overcoming this fear. But I have no references for this, so I'll just put it on the talk page for an expert to look at.137.205.183.114 (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common and harmless in young children 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The movie 'They Look Like People' fits this condition perfectly, although it is not explicitly stated that the movie is about this condition. I believe it would be worth adding, though. Justin3684 (talk) 19:16, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about adding another movie to "society and culture" 

message: I have added the  tag to the following sentence "It is generally agreed that the Capgras delusion has a more complex and organic basis..."
I do not believe that the phrase "organic basis" is a commonly used term and would like clarification on the meaning when used in this context.  I did a cursory Google search for "organic basis" and didn't see anything readily apparent; it's unclear if the term means something related to psychology, anatomy or something else.  I assume brain matter is considered organic material, right...?  Does organic imply some kind of physical decomposition/damage, or does it have a specific meaning in Psychiatry?
Can someone either please link to an appropriate reference, or restructure this part of the sentence?  I noticed there is already a  tag for the same sentence, so it might be worth just reworking it. Sawta (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition needed tag, Causes section 

message: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28794897?dopt=Abstract
> We identified 84 individuals and extracted diagnosis-matched comparison groups. Capgras was not 'monothematic' in the majority of cases. Most cases involved misidentified family members or close partners but others were misidentified in 25% of cases, contrary to dual-route face recognition models. Neuroimaging provided no evidence for predominantly right hemisphere damage. Individuals were ethnically diverse with a range of psychosis spectrum diagnoses.
Perhaps the last paragraph of the article could include this new information? DanBCDanBC (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New evidence suggests it might not be right hemisphere damage 

message: According to Nikkimaria, the references to Popular Culture to not comply with one of Wikipedia's rules. Thusly, I'd like to make it known that you should cease suggesting new movies should be put into an nonexistent 'Popular Culture' page. The quote from Nikkimaria from 11:34, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop Talking About References to Popular Culture 

message: I believe we should remove all purported examples that reflect sci-fi stories featuring actual replacement of individuals with identical duplicates, namely "The Father-Thing," "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," and "Memoirs Found in a Bathtub."  These would only be valid if, say, a person recognizing such a replacement is mistakenly diagnosed with Capgras delusion.  "Fate of the Jedi" can stay, in my opinion, because although it's science fiction, the storyline is described as involving a delusion, rather than actual replacement.  --DavidK93 (talk) 22:44, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Those links are just in the See also section, they are related to the topic of impostors, even though they are actually sci fi. It is normal in articles to have a section In popular culture with such kind of info. Now, how much is a reasonable number of links per MOS:SEEALSO? That is an open question. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 04:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invalid "Culture" Examples 

message: this new paper concluding all cases of Capgras syndrome in children and adolescents in the last 100 years. i think some information from this systematic review or at least mention it, should be included here. i have no experince in editing in wikipedia, that is why i suggest it here. 
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0163834324000847 91.228.248.251 (talk) 08:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would like to suggest new topic to this page about Capgras syndrome in children