Talk:Sonata Arctica

message: Removed this 'cover' song. Here is the explanation, copy-pasted from the FAQ on www.sonataarctica.info:
Did SA really cover Over The Hills And Far Away?
No, KaZaA lies! Same goes for nearly all other songs which aren't mentioned at the official site but nevertheless can be found at one of the filesharing programs. That song that is named "Sonata Arctica - Over The Hills And Far Away" is a cover-version played by Thyrfing (Tony did some backing vocals for Nightwish's Over The Hills And Far Away - cover though).
-- Sneltrekker 20:33, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Over the Hills and Far Away Cover

message: Should this page have links to the various lyrics of all the songs? Or maybe put the links to the lyrics on the album pages? If this is accepted as a good idea I will go ahead and do it, just don't want to ruin any page ;)The PA 19:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't put the full lyrics on Wikipadia, as that would involve violating copyrights. You can however put a link up at this article, that links to all the lyrics. -- SoothingR(pour) 07:43, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics

message: I updated the dates for the 2005/06 releases to the best of my knowledge, but couldn't find the release date for The End of This Chapter. "Late August" still works, but if anyone knows the exact date, it'd be much appreciated. GammaShade 23:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The End of This Chapter

message: I've reverted these edits. Jens Johansson played solos on Winterheart's but he was a guest musician, not a band member. The genre is somewhat contendable and should probably be discussed here before being changed. Offski 14:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverted

message: Timo Kotipelto – Sings in "False News Travel Fast" Can this be verified? There's no mention of it in the album's liner notes. Radagast1983 11:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it certainly isn't Tony. Timo has a very distinctive voice and it does sound a lot like him, and Sonata and Stratovarius are qutie close, with touring and together and Jens playing on Winterheart's Guild. A lot of other websites seem to agree as well, although I admit that none of this is definitive proof. Offski 16:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe I recall reading this on Sonata's official forums, though I wouldn't be able to find the topic offhand: Tony is singing throughout the song, but the final line ("News travel fast!") is Timo. Of course, if my memory doesn't fail me and the only source is the forums, that's not exactly verifiable. GammaShade 20:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kotipelto

message: I just want to pinpoint that they're cooperating with "Zelian Games" and "Inferi Art" to create a game called "Winterhearts Guild". Link to the original page: http://www.winterheartsguild.com/wg/index.htm
Is this worth bringing up in the article? I just want your opinions if this is "worthy" or not. mothos 12:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Second last paragraph in the article. It links to Winterheart's Guild (computer game). --Dayn 12:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Game

message: Please stop adding this in, as rap vocals. The official site makes no mention of this, and there are absolutely no online references stating as such. --Dayn 03:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Big Pooh" 

message: Does anyone want to help me find citations and sources for all these cover songs? For one, I can attest to Helloween's "I Want Out", as it's undoubtedly SA playing, and I can verify Stratovarius' "Black Diamond", as I own the VHS/DVD in question. Does anyone wanna help verify them? --Dane ~nya 08:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I sourced the recorded ones... Looks a bit messy, but I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to go about verifying the songs played live. --Dane ~nya 08:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Search YouTube? I've seen them play a bit of "I was Made For Loving You" on one video, there could be more out there. I might have a go later. Offski 09:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I got a package of bootleg Sonata albums recorded from their concerts the other day and I'm also an avid Sonata video hunter, and I can safely verify that all of these (With the exception of Excuse Me While I Kill Myself, One and No More Tears) have at some point been covered. If only very brief snippets in mid-song for some of them. -Anon. 13:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover songs! 

message: I believe the fansite list needs trimming, it's becoming into more of a link repository. How shall we determine which fansites are notable enough to warrant inclusion? --Dane ~nya 08:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know Wikipedia's policy on this but I think that fansites aren't really notable at all. Certainly not the foreign languages ones. I would suggest keeping no more than the English and Finnish ones, and probably not all of them. Offski 19:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha, hereherehere... Wikipedia talk:External links#Links normally to be avoided, this might help. We could add a directory list to DMOZ, which lists fansites; or we can try and decide which ones are notable; most likely Finnish and English, being an English encyclopaedia, and a Finnish subject. --Dane ~nya 00:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trimmedski, all but the English/semi-English sites (no Finnish ones, surprisingly). I'd say go further and keep no more than one, possibly none unless one of them is an official one. Offski 09:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked dmoz.com (I think it was) an open directory thing, but there's hardly any mention of any fansites. Well certainly not the first one, seems the page has been hacked... The last one is a DreamThieves thing... The three that are left are the only ones that might be of any value. The .nl site seems to have only what's on the official site... The .it site is pretty much the same, and so is the DreamThieves thing. Perhaps just remove all three, or leave them? I'll try and pretty-up the cover songs part so it's less messy. --Dane ~nya 10:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having had a look at the sites, I am going to get rid of them. The official site is kept up to date and everything is on there that can be found on the fansites. If anyone objects, feel free to replace or revert or whatever but I don't think encyclopedic articles are supposed to have any links to unofficial fansites. Offski 22:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fansite list needs trimming 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sonataarctica unia cover.jpg

message: There isn't any part about the meaning of "Sonata Arctica", and I can't find a place where it stands. Someone who knows it should add it.
Sound Arctic?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.83.226.84 (talk) 06:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I read about that somewhere that "Sonata" refers to a classical piece of music that is sung I believe and "Arctica" for their constant "chilling" atmosphere and artwork. Combine the two Sonata (to sound) it would be: "to sound arctic" or an Artic piece of music. Yet I forget what I saw for the second portion of it's meaning which is Arctica. --CircafuciX (talk) 06:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Sonata' is for the classical influence on their music and 'arctica' is because they're from Finland. 2.104.191.194 (talk) 01:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Meaning 

message: "Interestingly, the cover for "Unia" features a barely perceptible image of a person's hair and eyes looking out through a crack in the background in the lower right-hand corner. It is likely an allusion to the person in the song "Caleb" on "Unia"."
... I have the cover in front of me and cannot for the life of me see any sort of face on it. Is there a source for this entry? If not, please have it deleted. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 21:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if this has any significance in an article but if someone within the media could ask the band during an interview, then we could instantly find out if this is just an "ink blot test" or indeed what you say. FireCrystal (talk) 23:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture on Unia cover? 

message: SA needed a logo and now we finally have one! I was looking for one myself and it seems someone has found one. Nice job. --CircafuciX (talk) 22:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SA finally has a logo! 

message: I'm wondering where this information came from, as it's not on Sonata's official site, and searching 'Sonata Arctica 2009 Album' on Google comes up with nothing. If someone has just added that to the list because they assume that Sonata will record another album in 2009, then it needs removing, as that's a daft assumption to make. After all, Sonata are currently touring with Nightwish, and although Nightwish has a new album in the works, a realistic release date wouldn't be until early 2010. Unless confirmation can be provided from an official source, this enigmatic album needs removing. 92.12.62.21 (talk) 14:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled (2009) Album 

message: Perhaps it would be a good idea to be slightly more specific as to exactly how much of False News Travels Fast Kotipelto provides vocals for. Generally when you say someone provided vocals for a song it's understood that they sung quite a bit of it, whereas Kotipelto sings only the final three words of the aforementioned song. 92.11.238.109 (talk) 16:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kotipelto in False News 

message: Under the section for The Days of Grays in the article, it says that "The Last Amazing Grays" is the wolf song of the album, however the only other occurrence the word "wolf" is for "Wolf & Raven" in the list of singles at the bottom.  Shouldn't there at least be a sentence somewhere that mentions the recurring theme of the wolves?  If so, it would seem logical to also include something about continuous stories like Caleb saga. TeskoVirgo (talk) 21:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes / Recurring Elements 

message: it says that Queen is their biggest influence but I thought Stratovarious was their biggest influence because thats what they mentioned everywhere else like on their website  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.247.228 (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences 

message: Why is the demo title "PeaceMaker" a link to a wiki page about a 2007 PC game? The two are related in no possible way. --84.248.129.95 (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  PeaceMaker 

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