Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates/Archive 7

message: I find articles hard to read when they have geographical coordinates in with the text. I think the co-ordinates should be in a info box on the right side of an article when possible but when this is not possible to put it in a box i think there needs to be a better solution. From a readability POV I can not understand coordinates and must skip over them disrupting the flow of the page. Could we have another template where the coordinates are replaced with a clickable superscripted small globe icon or something similar? --Clawed 11:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For towns or similar, I tend to put the coordinates in parentheses just after the name of the town. It's fairly natural to skip over parenthetical text if it does not interest you. I consider it important that the coordinates are visible on the page for printing, screen-reading software etc, not just hidden in a link to another page such as the one with all the links  to maps. Most of the time I don't read the coordinates and only use them as a link, but not always. --Scott Davis Talk 12:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non readable text 

message: Hi, I have create a new dataset with coordinates from Wikipedia for Google Earth. From the english Wikipedia  I use 27894 coordinates and from the german Wikipedia I use 14852 coordinates. In the german Wikipedia we use very often "region" and "type" in the coordinates. In combination with the categorys I can create a very good file for Google Earth. In the english Wikipedia I have found not so much entries of "region" and "type"  an so the structure of the file is not so good. Attention pleace! The folder "City" is very very big. Download the file on this website. Sorry the Website is today only in german available. Click on "27894 Punkte von en.wikipedia.org" and have fun. -- Stefan Kühn 19:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've noticed that website some time before. It's very nice! One little suggestion from me would be: can it be mentioned somewhere, how frequently is it updated. Anyway, it's the great work, thanks a lot! Cmapm 01:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Cmapm, when I update my dataset then I write this here. I have not the time do make every week a update. My little script need one night to extract titel, coordinat and category of all articels. After this process I start an other programm to sort the data and create the kml. This need two hours. I need the most time to update my programm to the new templates. In the german wikipedia we have today a very stable template and not so many different templates, like in the english wikipedia. -- Stefan Kühn 07:14, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Hi, again! The next new is available Download. 33801 Points -- Stefan Kühn 20:38, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, again! The new dataset is available Download. 38547 Points -- Stefan Kühn 17:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, again! The new dataset is available Download. 48874 Points. Include a new structure! -- Stefan Kühn 18:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Stefan, there seems to be a problem with this dataset for pages that used  - the longitude gets the wrong sign. Look around 33 degrees south. There's a gap at 150 degrees east, and a cluster of places at 150 degrees west that should fill it. Also one around 35 south, 135 east/west. These places ended up tagged as landmarks, where most should be populated places, but that may be outside your control. The location is definitely a problem with your data collation though. --Scott Davis Talk 13:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Data from Wikipedia for Google Earth 

message: Hi. I'm implementing the  template for the series of lunar crater articles using the type globe:Moon. (C.f. .) The link works fine, but it doesn't appear to retain the decimal information. Also, the Lunar and Planetary Institute link doesn't always find matching crater pages for the coordinates, even though there are pages found under the name. I'm not sure whether this is an issue with the L&PI lookup or with the coordinates being transmitted.
Here's a couple of examples:
:* Abbe (crater); 
:* Balmer (crater); 
Is there anything that can be done to address this lookup problem? Thank you. — RJH 19:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lunar craters 

message: For longitude range check for planets/moons rather than the Earth. But it seems nobody cares/fixes it.
Bugzilla entry here
— Yaohua2000 19:08, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I've submitted a bug at bugzilla 

message: I just finished creating a simple "how to" article for people who simply want the basics on adding georeferenced link templates to wikipedia articles. It is called Wikipedia:Coordinate-referenced map templates. Feel free to change the name of it or edit it to death, but I didn't see any other place where a noob could get basic instruction on the different template options that are out there. Please message use the discussion page on this article if you have any major beefs with the article MPS 05:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Simple How to for noobs and non-programmers

message: Would it make sense to add geographic names to the template, or is intended to key only to the Wikipedia article title?  If, say, a city article has co-ordinates for several prominent buildings in it, how can the co-ordinates be harvested and linked to the correct entities.
Furthermore, lots of places have multiple names (historical, native, multiple local languages, multiple alphabets, transliteration, English, etc.).  The Wikipedia:Persondata project is creating a metadata format which allows alternate names and other data to be entered in a metadata block for biographical articles.  It may be natural to extend coor in this direction for other geo-related metadata.  
Any thoughts?  —Michael Z. 2006-02-08 00:31 Z
:I Agree - If there are multiple coordinate locations in one article, each one should have a name parameter. That way when they are harvested for Google Earth or other map tools, the captions will be correct. --Ozhiker 15:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic naming 

message: http://petition.publicgeodata.org/ --Historiograf 23:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please sign the petition for PUBLIC GEODATA 

message: Hi everyone - I have to confess that I am a novice to this field, so please forgive me if my questions are basic or confusing. I'm trying to incorporate coordinates of summits in the article List of Norwegian peaks over 2000 meters into the table, and I've found a source that has all these coordinates listed. Here's the problem: the source lists it in either EUREF89 or ED50 (the webmaster isn't sure which, I asked him), which takes the format 463550 East and 6833850 North for a mountain called Galdhøpiggen, when the longitude and latitude for the same mountain is 61°38′11″N, 8°18′45″E. Apparently, the former is in meters. I have no idea how to convert from one to the other, but would like to. Any suggestions? --Leifern 19:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference between EUREF89 and ED50 is not large. See ED50: the differences between the two coordinate systems are not more than a few hundred meters at most. The meter values you mention seem to be UTM values. You can do conversions at http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/utm_getgp.prl (for example; unfortunately no EUREF/ETRS89 or ED50, as it's an American site). Apart from easting and northing, you also need the UTM zone of the location; see e.g. the map on the UTM article. Locations in Norway are in zone 32 to 36. Eugene van der Pijll 20:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Converting among coordinate systems?