Talk:Book of Rites

message: :modern scholars believe that the original title, Lijing ("Classic of Rites"), was dropped so that jing ("classic") would be reserved for ...
What does 禮記 mean, then? Unfortunately, only an "original" title is explained, not the actual one. And even the original title is just mentioned in passing (we only hear that "the" title is dropped!)--why was is dropped, when was it dropped, by whom was it dropped, ...? --Ibn Battuta 15:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: Wouldn't "Liji" or "Record of Rites" be a better title for this article? '"Classic of Rites'" doesn't translate Liji 禮記, it translates Lijing 禮經, the lost pre-Qin classic. In standard usage, Lijing is an old title for the Yili, as William Boltz explains:
When Han texts refer simply to the Li, or to the Li ching, they mean the I Li, as opposed to the Chou li or the later Li chi. Even the name Li chi 禮記 in Han texts refers top the Li ching, i.e., the I li, together with the incorporated chi 'records'; the term does not refer to what is known today as the Li chi. (Loewe, Early Chinese Texts, 1993:234) 
(Compare the Chinese-language WP, where 礼经 redirects to 仪礼.) I thought this misnomer might derive from Legge's Liji translation, but it doesn't. He (1885:20) criticizes "Wylie's 'Book of Rites' and Callery's 'Memorial des Rites' always failed to give me a definite idea of the nature of our classic", suggests Liji might be translated "Ceremonial Records" in parallel to Shiji "Historical Records", and awkwardly prefers "A Collection of Treatises on the Rules of Propriety or Ceremonial Usages". How can we improve the current title? Keahapana (talk) 02:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title mistranslation 

message: Should the "classics" (yi jing, shu jing, shi jing, li ji) not all have a consistent title? At the moment we have: Shi Jing, Book of Rites, Book of History, and I Ching. That's two English, one pinyin, and one Wade-Giles. I don't understand the logic there. If no one objects, can we change them all to "Book of..."? I suppose I Ching is simple: Book of Changes, but what about Shi Jing? Book of Odes, Songs, Poems? I prefer Odes. Is someone able to do this? --TheSoundAndTheFury (talk) 09:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistent titles? 

message: http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1101&MainCatID=11&id=20110611000103
 Dai Rui-ming, Taiwan's former ambassador to the Holy See, also spoke at the seminar. He said he hopes that Beijing could re-erect in front of the UN Building the "Book of Rites" monument that the ROC donated to the world body as a founding member. 
anyone has information on this? 218.186.17.10 (talk) 03:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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message: Per WP:ERA, the usage of the page was established as BC/AD by this edit and the dates should not have extraneous ~Es added to them. — LlywelynII 08:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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message: This article discusses the supposed burning of the books and the burying of the ru as if it were undeniable fact. I think this ought to be edited to reflect the current understanding of Confucian textual transmission. Confused Sea Creature (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The burning of the books