Talk:Gynostemma pentaphyllum

message: This article needs a taxobox.  Badagnani 23:01, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Melchoir 01:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taxobox

message: Proposal: Twisting/Entwining Vine Indigo (i.e. the plant)
source: http://www.mandarintools.com/worddict.html
絞 means
to twist, to entwine, to turn, to wind, to wring (or the adjective/gerund thereof: twisting, entwining, turning, winding, wringing)
股 gǔ means
1. (合股线 [hé gǔ xiàn]) twine 
2. (屁股 pì gu5) buttocks, bottom, podex, behind, arse/ass, end, rear
3. thigh [anatomy], shank [anatomy]
4. part, section, portion
5. (股票 gǔ piào) stock, (股份 gǔ fèn) share, company share
6. classifier for thin, long objects [such as twines [botany] (of vines); poles, rods, staffs, (chop)sticks, wands]
7. (a whiff of...) classifier for smoke, gases, odo[u]rs/scents/smells/fragrances, electrical currents, spirals
source: 
http://dict.leo.org/chde?lp=chde&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=&search=%E8%82%A1
藍 means 
1. blue (the colo[u]r); 
2. plants for dying the colour blue (such as true indigo [plant], anil = 木藍, Indigofera sp.; woad, dyer's woad = 菘藍, Isatis sp., e.g. Isatis vioalescens) or dyer's knotweed, "Chinese indigo" = 蓼藍; the mistranslation orchid comes from the homonymous 蘭/兰 lán (different ideograph!)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.60.206.75 (talk) 10:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: Based on my searching, the availability of this herb appears to be as a tea, although the article doesn't mention its use as a tea. So I added the categories Tea and Chinese Tea (and after trying this stuff, I must say it's probably the tastiest tea I know). I also removed the category Japanese Ingredients, because although it seems to be an ingredient sometimes, it doesn't appear to be notable or widely used in Japanese cuisine. -Amatulic 01:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tea

message: Some of the citations in this article are atrocious. They give only an author and article title. There is no information about the publication, journal name, date, etc. Surely we can do better than this. I can't find some of the citations (like "Liu et al") probably because the original paper was written in Chinese. As given in this article, the citations are unverifiable. =Axlq 19:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good citations needed

message: I understand that the Wiktionary entries for the Chinese characters don't seem to support the translation "twisting vine orchid" for "jiaogulan". That translation came from p.12 of the book by Blumert and Liu cited in the references. My spouse (native Chinese speaker) also confirms that "lan" can mean "orchid". Maybe the Wiktionary definition needs changing? =Axlq 00:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a lot of examples in Chinese of "sound borrowing," and it gets complicated. If Wiktionary is to be trusted (and it often isn't) the "lan" you added ("蓝") seems to refer to a variety of indigo, or the color blue (then again, sometimes in Chinese the word for "blue" can also mean "green" (as in 青). The simplified character for "orchid" is 兰, as in "Gailan" (Chinese broccoli) 芥兰, literally "mustard orchid." Badagnani 00:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All I know right now is, the book in front of me translates "jiaogulan" as "twisting vine orchid". So either that source is wrong (possibly), or Wiktionary is wrong, or the Chinese character used in the lead section of this article is wrong. I don't know which. The native Chinese speaker/reader available to me is asleep at the moment; I'll talk to her about it later. =Axlq 00:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Apparently collard greens translates as 羽衣甘蓝 (yuyi ganlan). Badagnani 00:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The interwiki link you just added also uses the characters the lead uses, so those characters are likely correct. Maybe 蓝 is a general suffix put on names of some green plants? I note just plain "broccoli" uses 蓝 as the final character too. =Axlq 01:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I think you're exactly right. Interesting that the family Cucurbitaceae links to :zh:葫芦科, which means "gourd family" (葫芦科). Badagnani 01:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Literal meaning of "jiaogulan"

message: "Studies have found it increases the activities of macrophages, T lymphocytes and natural killer cells and that it acts as a tumor inhibitor.[2]"
: If so then it would not be recommended for people who suffer from a autoimmune disease.
:And, or take drugs who surpress the overactive immune response, See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoimmunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases
::That's speculation. It would be nice to see a real source that said something one way or another about the interaction between jiaogulan and autoimmune disease. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical indication and possible dangers 

message: On 15 Sept Ozzie... seems to have tagged 7 inline citations with 'medical source needed' but 5 of them seem unjustified as the citation does seem to be from a bio/medical journal. Not sure if Ozzie wants a different or secondary source but it seems excessive. - Rod57 (talk) 06:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  strange request for medical sources