Talk:List of variations of the Sega Genesis

message: Both of my European Mega Drive I models ("Mega Drive PAL-G") state 1601-18 as model number while the article claims Model number 1600-05 (original model), 1601-05 (second variation without "High Definition Graphics - Stereo Sound" text or EXT port).
While the 1601 as identifier for the revision without the EXT port is quite clear I wonder what's the difference between -05 and -18. One was made in Malaysia, the other one was made in China, so that's not the relevant part. --32X 19:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Model No 

message: === Japan ===
* Has no power LED
* Power switch is a Mega Drive 1 style switch
* 60 Hz NTSC, Japanese language setting
* [...]
=== North America ===
Note: This model of the Sega Genesis was not officially named "Genesis 2".
* Has a power LED
* Power switch is a push button
* 60 Hz NTSC, English language setting
* [...]
=== Europe, Australia, and New Zealand ===
* Has a power LED
* Power switch is a push button
* 50 Hz PAL, English language setting
* [...]
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It's quite obvious what I'd like to have - a list where the same stuff is mentioned only once and the different stuff is mentioned in a "standard" order for each region. That allows the reader to recognize what was changed between Mega Drive and Mega Drive 2 and what was changed between the Japanese Mega Drive 2 and the second model of the Genesis. Since the Genesis is only a rebranded Mega Drive (as we've learned from a recent discussion), I've put it in the same order, but on the second place since North America was a more important market than Europe.
Oh and ... some additional text at the beginning of each major paragraph doesn't hurt.
Questions appear:
* Who supports this and will rewrite that list? (I myself aren't bold enough.)
* What should be mentioned where?
** Extra task for the original Mega Drive: How should the two Versions (MK 1600 and MK 1601) be mentioned?
Think about it. --32X 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences 

message: * Has a power LED
* Power switch is a push button
* 50 Hz PAL, English language setting
* [...]
</div>
It's quite obvious what I'd like to have - a list where the same stuff is mentioned only once and the different stuff is mentioned in a "standard" order for each region. That allows the reader to recognize what was changed between Mega Drive and Mega Drive 2 and what was changed between the Japanese Mega Drive 2 and the second model of the Genesis. Since the Genesis is only a rebranded Mega Drive (as we've learned from a recent discussion), I've put it in the same order, but on the second place since North America was a more important market than Europe.
Oh and ... some additional text at the beginning of each major paragraph doesn't hurt.
Questions appear:
* Who supports this and will rewrite that list? (I myself aren't bold enough.)
* What should be mentioned where?
** Extra task for the original Mega Drive: How should the two Versions (MK 1600 and MK 1601) be mentioned?
Think about it. --32X 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe, Australia, and New Zealand 

message: There used to be a games show in TV in the UK that once showed a demo unit of a Sega Mega Drive called the Scorpion that could play any game regardless of country of origin, without requiring a Universal Adaptor cartridge. 
The console also had a built-in game similar to the Master System II, which was selected from a small range on purchase.
Thing is, I haven't seen a single mention of the console anywhere on the Internet.
Anyone have more information?80.195.249.202 19:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be better if you put that text into this discussion first. --32X 09:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sega Scorpion?

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message: I could have sworn that prior to the Majesco version, there were three Sega Genesis models released in America. I remember going to Toys R Us in 1992 and there were three models available. I chose the second model, which is in this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sega_Genesis_original_model.jpg . The third model available was the "Genesis 2" that's listed in this article. The first model available looked like the Japanese original model that's listed, with the larger "16-bit" font. When I chose the second model, I got a free copy of Sonic 1 and was able to get Sonic 2 for free through the mail. So what's going on here? Are you guys sure this information in the article isn't missing something? Cyborg Ninja 03:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The one you saw that looked like the Japanese original had to be just that, a Japanese system. The one in your picture is the first one actually released in America, but a lot of the early press images used prototypes that looked like Japanese models (mainly the larger 16 BIT text) instead of the actual American Genesis. How you would've seen one at a TRU is beyond me, are you sure you aren't conflating two memories? Like you saw the Japanese looking one in a magazine and then chose between the other two in the store? I got a Genesis at launch, and believe me, they looked like the picture you posted, not like the Japanese models.76.226.203.71 (talk) 01:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to count it as a variation, they did take off "High Definition Graphics" when they added in the TMSS lockout, but all US retail systems had the small 16 bit.76.226.136.43 (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Four Genesis models?

message: I have both the first and second models for North America. Since i did not have the proper RF adaptor to connect the original model (MK-1601) to the TV, i had to make due with a Nintendo Entertainment System RF adaptor. I was blown away that it actually works! The NES RF adaptor is a bit snug in the Genesis/Mega Drive port, but it works flawlessly, as if it were the Sega RF adaptor. Should this be mentioned on the page for others that have this console, but not the proper RF adaptors? It helped me and saved me from having to buy one off ebay...  RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 02:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't mention that. I thought it is common knowledge that these cables/adapters fit on other consoles, too. IIRC the Atari VCS 2600 just had a simple cable, one side with that cinch (RCA) jack, and the other side with the fitting TV jack. My MD I had not much more, a small box with a switch to select for TV or console. The NES' adaptor is a bit more advanced, IIRC it mixes the signals. --32X 21:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega Genesis First Model 

message: There's no sources on this article.  For as much content as there is here, I'm a little surprised.  Red Phoenix (Talk) 23:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For as mundane as a lot of the info is, I'm not surprised. Stuff like that doesn't exactly zazz up a website.76.226.203.71 (talk) 01:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: No sources

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message: There is a new version released in Brazil with some games in internal memory without cartridge slot. Some of those games in memory are mobile ported games such FIFA 2008, Need for Speed Pro Street and The Sims 2. Also was released a portable Mega Drive PSP-LCD like:
*http://www.tectoy.com.br/produto_interna.php?id=26
*http://www.tectoy.com.br/produto_interna.php?id=8  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.78.91.31 (talk) 11:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New versions 2008 

message: There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:List of Sega Mega Drive games - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RM bot 23:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Updating to note that this RM was closed as 'no consensus', with advice to make individual move requests on their respective pages so they can be argued individually. TechnoSymbiosis (talk) 04:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: (Note: As of this writing, this article's title is Variations of the Sega Mega Drive.)
Per a series of discussion in Talk:Sega Genesis, a group of editors (including myself) agreed that this article's title should continue to reflect the "Mega Drive" even though the parent article will continue to be titled "Sega Genesis" - the reason for this difference is that the majority of the variations covered in this article occurred in markets where the console was marketed as the Mega Drive and have their own notability in those markets.
However, agreement was also reached in that this title should be "Variations of the Mega Drive", since the console's title outside North America does not officially include Sega's company name.  (ie. "Mega Drive, by Sega").  I'm proposing that we go ahead and move this article to the shortened name and fix all occurrences of "Sega Mega Drive" in the article to just "Mega Drive", mentioning Sega by name where needed in the context of the company.  I'm proposing this informally because I believe there will be little controversy on this move, but I'm willing to turn it into a formal move proposal if that's desired. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Given support from Talk:Sega Genesis, I went ahead and just did this, per WP:BOLD. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed title change: Variations of the Mega Drive 

message: See Talk:Sega Genesis to discuss this merger proposal.  Red Phoenix build the future...remember the past... 20:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Sega Genesis]] 

message: I know it's a bit of work to do that. But that's probably the easiest way to get it to a solid state.--SexyKick 03:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This could really be blanked and started over in the style of List of 32X games. 

message: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?7796-GUIDE-Telling-apart-good-Genesis-1s-and-Genesis-2s-from-bad-ones seems to have some information in it.  I tried registering on that forum yesterday, but aren't getting a notification email, so can't message the guy to ask for sources, nor post anything on their forums.  Maybe AT&T blocks emails from them for some reason, they doing that at other forums sometimes, and no way to stop them from doing that.  If someone has better luck registering please post there, asking about where the various variations have information about themselves listed.  Dream Focus 14:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to say that I respect your efforts. That Kotaku page you recently is a great source, if you keep this work up I may consider changing my support for the redirect. Unless the current page gets majorly reworked towards list style though, it honestly seems like we can fit it all into the main article.--SexyKick 06:39, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A reliable source links to this forum post