Talk:Economy of Wales

message: A significant number of 'sources' on the page are not factual sources but rather opinion pieces/blog sites/nationalist sites for a independence movement known as 'YesCyrmu'. I have edited these, and corrected the various incorrect statements over the last couple of months but my work keeps getting removed and it is utterly infuriating.
Example one:
This compares to Italy's GDP/capita of £25,000, Spain £22,000, Slovenia £20,000 and New Zealand £30,000.
Sources:
1: https://swalesmetroprof.blog/2021/01/04/the-environment-tax-and-wales/#_edn25
2: https://nation.cymru/opinion/wales-is-not-a-global-anomaly-it-can-be-independent-just-like-every-other-nation/
This is factually incorrect and I correct this only for Jelly to remove:
 NZ GDP 2019 $42 - https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=NZ) and Wales is about $23k https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/regional-innovation-monitor/base-profile/wales#:~:text=Complete%20Regional%20Profile-,Economy,economically%20(Eurostat%2C%202019)).
Also not Spain - Wales https://www.statista.com/statistics/1004446/gdp-of-wales/, Spain https://www.statista.com/statistics/263768/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-spain/ (conversion needed) and read] https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/1767424/Wales_Fiscal_Future_FINAL.pdf) On a nominal basis (assuming a crude spot conversion) we rank somewhere around the Dominican Republic on a nominal basis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drpoth33 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Your sources look good, and I'm not going to die on this hill. I won't revert your edits again. JellyMan9001 (talk) 20:44, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of non-factual sources

message: *Economic history - a lot more can be said about the economic history of Wales.
*Regional variations - would be nice to have a table here showing a breakdown by principal area of GDP per capita.
*Black economy - maybe something can be said about the black economy, though by its very nature it is hard to quantify.
(Sloman 17:13, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion

message: The 'Transport Infrastructure' section suggests that there is only one airport in Wales offering scheduled flights, I don't think that is true. Im pretty sure that swansea offers scheduled flights too. Can someone check this? (unsigned comment from User:86.135.45.1)
:Swansea Airport used to have flights, but it's true that there are currently no scheduled passenger flights from it. Air Wales used to do Swansea->Cardiff->London City (woo, international! :)) and possibly others I forget, but the Swansea bit was never profitable and they dropped the Swansea bit. It's now looking as though the Cardiff part wasn't too good either: they're dropping their passenger flights from Cardiff (although they hope other carriers will take them over).
:There has been some suggestion of linking north and south Wales via air (with Swansea, Cardiff and RAF Valley the likely destinations), too, but it's not happened. At the start of the year, the link was hoped to be by the end of 2004; at the end of 2004 they were suggesting by the end of 2006. Check back in December :)
:Telsa (talk) 14:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airports? 

message: 43rd Worlds largest economy? Where is this from? I have been searching for the origion of this but as yet have not found it.Drachenfyre 04:59, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a civil servant, I got this data from an internal report.  I'll try and dig this up for you.  However, this info is more than a year old now, so it might be best just to remove the sentence until I can find a more up to date report. (Sloman 09:25, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sloman this would be fantastic if you can retreive it and it be official. I had made it a link on the official Wales page, so had to remove because it was out of context. Even if a year old it would be acceptable to post if it is from a reliable source, and no further information has come out. Because I could not verify the statement elsewhere, I was beginning to think it would be "if" Wales was independent it would be the 43rd largest economy, but even then the statement is in error when one takes the average GVA for the UK and then divide that by the Assembly target of 80%, that would place the goal of GVA at about just under 25k a year, and wedge it somewhere between Greece and Hong Kong of Wales were an independent nation. I look forward to more information on the subject! 64.134.101.98 10:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Still looking for a public report (Sloman 18:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  43rd largest economy 

message: Might someone work on creating a nifty information box simular to the Economy of Ireland page? I think it would help add something special here too. Drachenfyre 14:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template Information Box 

message: ===Utilities===
I think it would be worth having a small note about things like power generation capacity and water supply here.  I'll see what I can find.
===The role of the public sector===
It would informative to have some information about what role the various tiers of government play in the Welsh Economy.  The tiers of government may include: Local authorities (the unitary authorities); the Welsh Assembly Government and National Assembly for Wales; the UK government; possibly the European Union; and maybe something about public bodies like the DVLA &c. (Sloman 12:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice inclusion to the artical! Looks very nice! Drachenfyre 04:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requests for expansion

message: It would informative to have some information about what role the various tiers of government play in the Welsh Economy.  The tiers of government may include: Local authorities (the unitary authorities); the Welsh Assembly Government and National Assembly for Wales; the UK government; possibly the European Union; and maybe something about public bodies like the DVLA &c. (Sloman 12:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The role of the public sector

message: In addition to introducing the role of the Welsh Assembly and U.K. government policies, it would be useful to add economic policy controversies. Drachenfyre 09:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice inclusion to the artical! Looks very nice! Drachenfyre 04:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Economic policy controversies

message: From the Assembly Government's economic development strategy - 
* para 3.3 "an inability to benefit from strong agglomeration effects, due to Welsh towns and cities being relatively small and much of Wales being sparsely populated";
* para 3.4 "the agglomeration effect is more of an issue for Wales than for any other country or region of Great Britain"
* figure 3.2
* para 23 "Research also identifies the lack of a large city or urban area as being an important factor underlying the lower earnings seen in Wales. Large cities and well-connected urban areas can act as powerful centres to drive economic growth"
From the ERAP report to WAG on economic futures - 
* Cities and agglomeration economies, para 2.35 "Despite the benefits associated with its status as a national capital, Cardiff remains a comparatively small city"
* para 2.4 "Wales is rather unusual however, in having a low proportion of higher quality jobs in business and financial services. This is a proximate cause of Wales’s relatively poor overall economic performance, and may reflect the lack of a really large city (of the scale of Leeds, Manchester or Birmingham)."
* p.39 "The next most important influence is proximity to major agglomerations. The Scandinavian economies certainly benefit in the first respect, and even in the second the balance of advantage is not clear - Cardiff is very much smaller than Copenhagen, Stockholm and Helsinki, all cities of over 1 million people. Even Oslo is almost twice as big as Cardiff. South-east Wales taken as a whole is of course much larger than Cardiff, but does not seem to gain the benefits commensurate with its population."
Also see List of conurbations in the United Kingdom and List of largest United Kingdom settlements by population
Pondle (talk) 18:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute small size of cities in Wales, & size status of Cardiff 

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message: Please see WP:CONTEXT. The dictionary words (even ever-so-slightly technical, such as "output") should not be linked. Tony (talk) 14:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free to remove any overlinking as you see fit. Pondle (talk) 15:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I addressed the overlinking in the lead. Compare: Before and After. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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