Talk:Juken Sentai Gekiranger/Archive 1

message: The Japanese wiki's got the cast up now.
*火星・龍 ゲキレッド：鈴木裕樹
*水星・蛇 ゲキブルー：永山たかし
*木星・豹 ゲキイエロー：大村彩子
*金星・鶴 ゲキピンク：小松愛
*土星・虎 ゲキブラック：多賀名将也
Mars - Dragon/Gekired: Suzuki Haruki
Blog - http://www.watanabepro.co.jp/blog_artist/suzukihiroki/
Mercury - Snake/Gekiblue: Nagayama Takashi
Blog- http://www.geiei.co.jp/profile/nagay.../nagayama.html
Jupiter - Leopard/Gekiyellow: Oomura Ayako
Blog - http://www.itoh-c.com/group/profile/prof_s/oomura/
Venus - Crane/Gekipink: Komatsu Megumi
Site - http://www.vbp.jp/index1.html
Saturn - Tiger/Gekiblack: Tagana Masaya
There's a chance it might be off, but we can probably watch their blogs to see if they make any mention of it. Yaguruma 19:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if we should be trustful of a lot of this. Unless there's been another magazine article (and I don't know where it is), I'm thinking we should lay off and see what comes up.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't really know what your problem is, but Wikipedia uses reliable sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

message: A French tokusatsu-themed blog is not a reliable source. As such, I have removed all of the stuff that has been translated from there (and horribly). A "Flamand-Rose" is a flamingo, and the above text says GekiPink will be crane-based.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The wrong translation was not the only problem. We don't know where the blog got its information, and there's no other information about it elsewhere. Forums and blogs are not reliable sources. A magazine is, though.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, you can do that, too. Be bold to get information.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Blog 

message: I changed it up since Dairanger wasn't a martial arts themed but Chinese Elemental and Mythology/Philisophical series. It more resembles Maskman. 70.185.125.101 03:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say it resembles both of them.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Dairanger was based on Chinese stuff, as is this series. It resembles both.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That's true, but it has simple similarity. Dairanger has Chinese themes, so does Gekiranger. Maskman is martial arts based, so is Gekiranger.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: It's unnecessary. We are supposed to avoid trivia sections, and that information was not trivia, but related to the subject directly.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: It's a Wikipedia guideline, Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles. And production times are related directly to the topic of the television show.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it should never be included. It should be incorporated in another way.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Give us a source. Stop disrupting articles this way.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

text: ...Just give us a direct link and it will be included. Your "source" cannot be reputable unless it is available to several people.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martial Arts 

message: WHO THE HELL deleted the names for our heroes?70.185.125.101 05:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where were they in the first place?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, frankly I'm not giving a crap about that right now. I realized why I was wrong, and now I'm just staying a bit away from the general discussion board.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GEKIRANGER SURNAMES 

message: Now the name isn't even Gekiranger, テキトージャ Tekitoenger/Tatakaiger? Yaguruma 06:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the name of the mecha, .—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 06:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Someone typed something up wrong at whatever board it comes from, Hyperdash(?).  means nothing.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 06:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: S'okay. It's a pain in the ass getting grilled at RB though for knowing some Japanese (language and people), though.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 06:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, this is a literal translation of the kanji for Beast and Fist put together. The name is on the same lines as shoryuken, hadouken, or other fictional martial arts styles.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New name 

message: Since it's tiger, cheetah, jaguar, it's more of wild animals eh?
The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gekiranger entry is different from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juuken_Sentai_Gekiranger —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.83.13.135 (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably martial arts still, but just focused on cats.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 21:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: GekiBlue has tonfa, GekiRed has nunchaku, and they have a mentor who is a "Juuken Master." I would think that martial arts is retained here.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It's martial arts, just not the five animals schools.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know... If I'm going to give my characters nunchaku and tonfas, I think martial arts are retained somewhat. Could you link?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So now it's not martial arts anymore? 

message: The official logo for Juuken Sentai Gekiranger is on the first page of the most recently released scans. I think it should be somehow incorporated into the article by now. --GreenNinja 20:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll see what I can do with the scan (unless you've got it all cropped and whatnot).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Done.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo

message: I've seen mentions of "The Gekirangers don't have belts" repeatedly here and on the main Super Sentai article. It is omitted from mention because it is a random piece of trivia that is really of no importance. There only seem to be a handful of people who feel slighted that the Gekirangers' suits lack belts, and others that welcome the change. It's not really an issue that requires mention, much like something that states that GekiRed's actor's second cousin was a stunt double in Kamen Rider Kabuto GOD SPEED LOVE for Kamen Rider Hercus.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belts 

message: We will have NONE of it in this article. NONE AT ALL. Look what happened to the Boukenger article, its a complete mess.
If there's something truly worth mentioning, we'll find some other way to integrate it into the article. NO FREAKING TRIVIA. Seriously, who cares where the suits were based off of, especially since it was just a sad piece of OR.
So STOP ADDING USELESS SHIT.
Thank you and have a nice day. :-) | Floria L 21:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've axed out a lot of the most trivial trivia; I'm pretty sure that the rest of the Boukenger trivia can be intergrated elsewhere.  Anyway, yes, NO TRIVIA, this has led to relentless original research and extremely petty observations.  Boukenger was the first series to "not feature a tense relationship between the leader and the second-in-command"?  The song is the third not to mention the full title in the song?  Seriously, what the heck?  INTERGRATE IT ELSEWHERE. Hbdragon88 08:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but the princess is in another castle.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: * Master Shafu: Ichiro Nagai
* Chief Kotowari: Hirohumi Araki
Both of these have been stated by dukemon that they are part of the cast, but there is nothing on the web yet that mentions them and Gekiranger in the same context. Yuka Hirata's page has Mere and Gekiranger, so she is a confirmed cast member.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The update on the D-Boys site that confirmed Hiroki Suzuki as GekiRed also mentions that Hirohumi Araki was also casted as Kotowari. 75.105.184.82 21:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: One aired with Task 45. The rest come from magazine scans.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: We know nothing about the length of the series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh. Next week is Bouken Task 46, which means we may have at most five more weeks of Bouken, as Geki airs in six weeks from today's date.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure something from TV-Asahi a while back said Bouken would only have 49 episodes, just like Kabuto this year. There's probably one more break in there. Floria L 22:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unconfirmed cast members 

message: Almost this entire article is currently written in future tense, using the word will over and over. Wouldn't it'd be more appropriate to say she IS portrayed by and such, instead of using will over and over again. Its obviously going to have to be changed once the series starts, and since the promos have started airing, it pretty much means they are already portraying the characters. Floria L 22:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will fix.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future tense 

message: I apologize but I don't know how to place a reference but here is the link to the scan where I got this last edition's information. http://www.101fwy.net/tokua/src/1169023972648.jpg Filadelfo 07:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Upload it to photobucket/imageshack. Use  and ref tags like I did. :) I would, but it's too late over here for me to get indepth in anything.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, where are you getting "Riou" for "理央"? My translator gives me "Rio", which is a woman's name, actually (I can't find "Kotowari" though, anywhere).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The scans have the yomigana in parenthesis. Filadelfo 19:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That one has furigana (it's saved on my computer as the link died)?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Ah, I see it. Have you integrated info on Den-O from that, as well?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding New Information 

message: I have just chanced (for the second time) the Rinjuuken name from "Evil Style" to "Akugata" for reasons stated in the summary. To avoid future discrepancies, I think we should unify opinions on what should be translated and what should be just transliterated. Filadelfo 22:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started a thread on this at WT:TOKU—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation and Transliteration 

message: When it airs, would anyone have any adverse opinions on making an episode summary page in the same vain as the recent Kamen Rider series? Yaguruma 22:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That'd be a lot better than what we have for Boukenger right now. Those episode summaries are spread out on five articles :/—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Summaries 

message: I'm not fond of using TV-Nihon's translations on Wikipedia. They're not an official source, and nonstandard romanisations are only to be used if they are official. I'd also rather not give TV-N the attention...TV-Nihon members have, in the past, disruptively edited Wikipedia in order to aggressively push POV, and given that they've used their news page and forum to attack people in the past, I don't see why they should be regarded as credible, nor why they should be given the attention they crave. Thus, I propose that the page be moved to Jūken Sentai Gekiranger until the official DVDs are released, and then it should be moved to what the official title on the DVDs state. jgpTC 03:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or we could go back to "Juuken"—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that it should be "Juuken" and I have "proof." Now please take this with a grain of salt like always. If you look at the characters that make up "Choujuu" from "Choujuu Sentai Liveman," "Seijuu" from "Seijuu Sentai Gingaman," and "Hyakujuu" from "Hyakujuu Sentai Gaoranger," they all share the "獣" Symbol. So far, the translations on Wikipedia have consistently been translated to the romanization "juu." In this season, the 獣 symbol appears again. This time it is being debated to whether or not we translate it to "juu," "jū," or "jyu." I think that we should keep it consistent and translate the series name to "Juuken Sentai Gekiranger" like it was in the first place. This is my beliefs and I would appreciate any other people's opinions on this topic. As always, thank you.スミス ナサニアル 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that we don't know how the production company is going to transliterate the title. We found "Mahou Sentai Magiranger" and "GoGo Sentai Boukenger" on DVD cases, and that's why the articles are where they are. However, we do not have DVD boxes for Gekiranger yet.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I've done it. It shouldn't be too long for the DVDs to come out.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

text: We knew how the titles were written in Japanese. Not how they are transliterated into English. And despite what you think, we are using an official transliteration from Asahi (which I explained on your talk page)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: We do not know how we should write 獣 in the Roman alphabet. That is what this discussion is about. We are not discussing translation. We're talking about romaji.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ........ But he did. Also, Hepburnly, it is ok to use waporo and replace the mancronated U with two U's. Makes it easier for user to search up the page and access it. Floria L 01:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer that we find the way that tv asahi or Toei is going to transliterate it, which could be with one u, a yu, or other forms.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: I added the next song, Ryu but I can't get the kanji fixed. Can you please re-edit it?74.195.3.199 00:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure it should be added like that, since the battle song isn't usually listed under as a main theme. Can fix later if im wrong. Floria L 02:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BATTLE SONG 

message: Can we please include a section on the 4 series that didn't have these as well? The other being JAKQ, Goranger and Timeranger.74.195.3.199 04:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be trivia—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: No trivia here. We're setting precedent for this year's series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holsters 

message: Ryulong -- http://www.t-miyauchi.com/ I trust you can find the blog there, I shouldn't have to do everything for you. It's among his latest entry, providing you actually know Japanese.Unasu 23:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not Japanese. However, I cannot find the information at the blog *TOMORROW* or whatever it was called.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I didn't remove it because I didn't provide it. There was just no source for it (none that I could find until I looked for the kanji)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Takayuki Miyauchi 

message: User:142.167.105.134 wrote: 
:"Might be that the Leopard and Lion might Join the team later on in the future episodes, Just a thout as the Leopard was shown in the beginning and the Lion being in the Bad side might join later on"
--Mr Fink 18:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation Removed From Page

message: Was there ever an official spelling for it? Shouldn't we use the macron then? Floria L 09:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember seeing a scan that used "GEKITOHJA," it was that first scan ever of GekiTohja, and I switched it then. I probably have it on my computer somewhere.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GekiTōja 

message: I was thinking we could create a section explaining what those words Jan use mean. Filadelfo 23:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a bit too much like a fansite and not encyclopedic...—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that defeats the purpose of this site, then Ryu. I never heard of any enclyclopedia's with TV show or movie info extensive as here....74.195.5.83 01:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see anything wrong with adding one really. With a character such as Jan, it's almost vital that it be added because he uses those words so often and they are part of the episode titles. It wouldn't be unencyclopedic at all to add a section on it. Yaguruma 01:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, when it's put that way, I guess whatever ones we do know the meaning of (Wakiwaki and Zowazowa) would be good in a notes section from the episode list.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Unless it is given a name in the series, and it can be sourced to something stated explicitly in the episode (not just inferred from watching) then it should remain unlisted.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jan-ish section? 

message: It has just come to my attention that a good portion of the old references are missing date parameters. I'd be great if someone went into the history of the article and found out when the images were accessed :)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The article's getting kind of long. Maybe it's time that the Gekiranger and Akugata got their own articles (possibly with expanded bio stuff)? Yaguruma 09:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We could probably cut down on the information we have here. Fractyl tends to use the bad guy bios as episode summary.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I also think it's way too early in the series to deal with splitting it off right now. Cutting down on the extraneous information we have is better than creating a new page to cover the useful and useless information.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gekiranger and Akugata articles 

message: To note, since the Lesson 12 title is almost identical to the one Dukemon had up, doesn't that mean he may be right about these?
* : This  master trains Retsu to use the GekiFan. His name is a pun on Bruce Lee.  
*: A  user. 
Fractyl 01:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gekiranger & Dukemon

message: Since the catchphrases for the Gekirangers are in the wiki, why not put the catchphrase for Rio when he uses Rinki Gai Sou
DJ Kidna 04:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't find it (in Japanese)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Translations can be different depending on who looks at it and how they try to translate. Right now, we're waiting on an official translation from tv asahi or Toei concerning the title of this series written in English, but nothing's come up yet (it could be Jyuken like TV-Nihon or Juuken, Jyuuken, Juken, etc.)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

text: If you can give the kanji, then by all means.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catchphrase 

message: Just wondering, where does it say that Elehan and Bat Li's names are based off of Sammo Hung Kimpō and Jet Li?
DJ Kidna 02:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Japanese Wikipedia uses these namesakes.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Additionally, the way the names are written in the original Japanese mirrors is similar between the characters and the martial artists.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, the voice actors for both characters are the people who actually dub the movies of their real-life counterparts in Japan, ie Elehan's voice actor dubs all of Sammo Hung's movies. --Egocentrism04 08:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kensei Name basis 

message: This is new (at least to me) information at the following -
http://www.thai-toku.com/cgi-bin/Y1Gold/tcsyabb/index.pl?board=general&action=display&num=1179988758
To summarize - GekiRed gets a super form (literally "Super GekiRed"), there is a GekiWolf robot which functions as a replacement leg for GekiTohja, someone (presumably whomever uses GekiWolf, since it's on the same ad) uses the "Gong Changer", there's a RinLion and a RinChameleon with the RinLion apparently becoming armor and RinChameleon becoming a weapon, and there are the three new robots of GekiGorilla, GekiPenguin, and GekiGazelle. The heavy spoilers thing comes from the fact that the RinLion armor thing is heavily implied to become armor for GekiTohja, though that's technically speculation and which is why I didn't add that. I'm not saying this information should be added right away - I just thought it should be added to the general discussion. --Egocentrism04 08:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done already.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super form, new robots, heavy spoilers for what's going to happen 

message: Romanized, the kanji used to write Black Lion comes out not Jishi, but Shishi. Why are we all using Jishi? Thats broken romanization? I fixed it once, but it seems someone changed it back. Floria L 20:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: from what I gather in the edit descriptions and from a discussion about it on a message board, it's because jishi was the furigana seen over it when his name appeared onscreen. This isn't something I noticed first-hand (I didn't know there was an argument then), and haven't gone back to look again, though. Angel the Techrat 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the show, it's said as "Jishi." Kata refers to Rio as "waka jishi" or "lion cub"—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Japanese, when the second kanji character in a word starts with shi, it's pronounced as the hard version, ji (し vs. じ). This is represented by the two dots above the character. This is also true for most other sounds, such as ka and ga (か vs. が), depending on whether or not they have a hard version. Everything's easier to pronouce that way. --Egocentrism04 02:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And that is how it is done in the show. "獅子" is read as "Jishi" because he calls himself "黒獅子" which is read, in this case, as Kurojishi.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuro ShiShi 

message: The insert song "1-2-3-4 Geki Seigi" by Ken Narita was added. However, they incorrectly link to the voice-actor Ken Narita (成田剣) when it's performed by veteran singer Ken Narita (成田賢), who doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. This may need corrected to avoid confusion.
DappuDappu 01:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Music Entry

message: Isn't 電影版 just another name for 'movie　version'? 'Electric Shadow edition' just looks weird...
Perhaps in keeping with the Chinese theme, they decided to use 電影版　instead of 劇場版, since 電影 means movie in Chinese? Jutari 11:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is it seems this year. I'll fix it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie

message: Does anyone think this link is important to include in the external links? [] -  Powersentai 21:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have an episode list here and one at the official website that we reference to. That one is not any better or worse than the others.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode List