Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)

message: WP:BAND has, as a sub-bullet of criteria one, a clarification that  do not establish notability.  I BOLDLY removed that subbullet, noting that the sentence was entirely redundant with the initial bullet, which already disallowed , but was reverted for lack of discussion. So here's the discussion, I guess. Mach61 (talk) 02:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I kind of think that the paragraph above Criterion 1 should be moved underneath the 12 criteria... it's getting in the way of the opening sentence that finishes "...that meet the following criteria", and would then act as a summary of the criteria listed above it. Richard3120 (talk) 16:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  For the record 

message: I feel that the gold record or higher criteria for music, along with the rest of it is a little too high a bar. I understand that a small screaming punk garage band called “My Nefarious Loins” or something may not be considered notable, however a band that has recorded and published music but is not Green Day size should not be blocked off of Wikipedia, especially if they’re good. This band in question is Young culture, I am not part of the band or know them but I am interested in creating a page for them. Darkheart24 (talk) 18:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody is saying that they have to have sold millions of records to be included on Wikipedia. But "notable" means that someone outside of their social media and friends and family have written about them. We need to establish some criteria for notability otherwise Wikipedia would include literally anyone who's played music. I have three different cousins who have all recorded and published music on YouTube, Spotify, etc. but there's no way I would call any of them notable. If the band has coverage in newspapers, magazines, established online sources that aren't blogs, then they would be considered notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Richard3120 (talk) 21:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Darkheart24 (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

text: A gold record is one way that a band can attain notability, not the only way. Bands that have never had gold records can still pass other NMUSIC criteria listed here, and can still have enough reliable source coverage to pass the bar. Bearcat (talk) 17:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  is an impossibly subjective standard of no use to Wikipedia editors. Who gets to say any band is good or bad? Professional music critics, not individual Wikipedia editors. Cullen328 (talk) 17:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable bands bar too high 

message: Is there a template message people can use when they find band spam? I'd like to be able to leave a message on talk pages explaining the criteria and linking here. Is there such a thing? If there's anything good it would be great to add it to twinkle. Secretlondon (talk) 12:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You can use  to tag bands that may not meet the criteria for inclusion, which links to WP:MUSIC. Chubbles (talk) 08:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  template message 

message: is currently being discussed at WikiProject Albums. Please join the discussion to form a consensus on its language. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notification of discussion