Talk:Liberal feminism

message: "Because of this approach to self-ownership, liberal feminists also tend to support legalising or decriminalizing cannabis and lap dancing, a position often challenged by radical feminists and by the religious right. Liberal feminists tend to view the criminalization of prostitution to be a legislative act rooted in patriarchal control over the personal and business affairs of women, and thus repressive."
This sounds a bit more like libertarian feminism than liberal feminism. I'd be inclined to remove this unless somebody can come up with a citation for it. Part of the problem is that "liberal feminism" a political position very few people actually consciously subscribe to. Betty Friedan was its clearest exponent. Gloria Steinem is the best known "liberal feminist", but if you look at her writing, her ideas are more "radical feminism lite" than anything. Peter G Werner 22:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: This Wikipedia article isn't so much about liberal feminism as liberal feminism specifically in the US.  It is overwhelmingly focused on events, laws, organisations in the US.  Surely an article on liberal feminism as a topic should much broader than one country's experience.  
106.70.194.94 (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
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message: "In 1920, after nearly 50 years of intense activism, women were finally granted the right to vote and the right to hold public office in the United States, and in much of the Western world within a few decades before or a few decades after this time." I think we should change "women were finally granted the right to vote" to "'whitewomen' were finally granted the right to vote", as black, asian and indigenous women were not.
186.183.29.113 (talk) 20:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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message: I appreciate seeing recent sources added to this topic. A couple of considerations are below: 
- "As one of the "Big Three" schools of feminist thought, liberal feminism is often contrasted with socialist/Marxist feminism and radical feminism, but in contrast to them, liberal feminism seeks gradual social progress and equality on the basis of liberal democracy rather than a revolution or radical reordering of society." It may be better to put with the intro because it's a little repetitive. 
- There's a subsection on LGBT rights and advocacy efforts. It may be helpful also to build out the other policy areas mentioned, like family planning and abortion access, to make it easier to follow.
Overall, this article was easy to understand and follow.
~~~~ Msociallyaware17 (talk) 14:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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message: — Assignment last updated by Yui0712Char (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: WGS 300w Feminist Theories

message: In the section of LGBTQ right, it is argued  that “UN Women works to promote gender equality and the rights of women and  LGBTQ+ people” as they are presumed to be a liberal feminist organization. However, at  the first point, I think we need to clarify whether UN Women is liberal  feminist organization or not. While UN Women seems to acknowledge the women’s  different experience from racial and socioeconomic status, some scholars criticize  UN Women as working based on liberal feminist. Firstly, UN conference invited  Kimberlé Crenshaw, who coined the term of intersectionality, as early as in 2001  (Arat, 2015, p. 679). Subsequently, the term started  to appear in the documents. Moreover, UN Women published Intersectional  feminism: what it means and why it matters right now (2020) on their  website, in which Black and Indigenous feminist scholars argue for  intersectional lens and acknowledgment of historical context of colonization  and slavery. However, at the same time, there is a controversy over UN Women,  which focuses on white middle-class women. Arat (2015) argues that UN measure  how gender equality is achieved only in terms of “integration”. In UN outcome  document, the number of female politician and CEO in each country is often showed. According  to Arat, however, many Third World/transnational feminists claims that integrative  measure of UN is silent on class oppression and capitalism. They argue that  even if women in the highest strum (e.g., CEO) achieved the equal income with  men, the gap between these women and women in the lowest strum (e.g., women working  at sweatshop) is not resolved. I think that we need to be clear on this  webpage that UN Women is a liberal feminist organization or if we don’t agree  on UN women as a liberal organization, it should be got rid of from the  Wikipedia page.
Arat, Z, F, K. (2015). Feminisms, Women's Rights, and the UN: Would achieving genderequality empower women? The American Political Science Review. 109(4), 674-689.
UN Women. (2020 July 1). Intersectional feminism: what it means and why it matters rightnow. https://www.unwomen.org/en/news/stories/2020/6/explainer-intersectional-feminism-what-it-means-and-why-it-matters Yui0712Char (talk) 07:44, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: i agree and i support this change! DrHeller (talk) 21:03, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is UN Women Liberal Feminist Organization? 

message: In introduction, it is argued that liberal feminism is supported by "'mainstream' (i.e., middle-class) women". I believe the word usage of "mainstream" is offensive since by using the word, it reserves the notion that middle-class women are normal. According to the definition of Oxford Language, mainstream means "the ideas, attitudes, or activities that are regarded as normal or conventional; the dominant trend in opinion, fashion, or the arts." Although it is true that middle-class women have so huge impact that they can be seemed "dominant" in this society as a result of racism and classism, we should not think of or express white women as "normal" or "conventional" even if we use double quotation mark. Since we need to see feminism with intersectionality, the word of mainstream itself has an effect in looking down on the other women (non-white middle-class women). Therefore, it should be changed into white middle-class women, more specifically.
Oxford Language. (n.d.). Mainstream. 
https://www.google.com/search?q=mainstream+meaning&rlz=1C1NDCM_jaJP844JP845&ei=bTB7Y7yVHNXUkPIP9t2roAM&ved=0ahUKEwj8_8i95777AhVVKkQIHfbuCjQQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=mainstream+meaning&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIMCAAQsQMQQxBGEPkBMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgcIABCxAxBDOgQIABBDOgUILhCABDoICC4QgAQQsQM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgcIABCABBAKSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUABY_AZgtwhoAHABeAGAAfMCiAHrCpIBBzQuMy4xLjGYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp Yui0712Char (talk) 08:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: sounds like a great change! DrHeller (talk) 21:04, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mainstream women" should be changed into "white middle-class women"