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Talk:History of the Pitcairn Islands

message: The six Polynesian men who accompanied the Bounty mutineers to Pitcairn including three Tahitians, two Tubians and one Raiatean. One aspect usually omitted from the Bounty mutiny, is a failed attempt to settle on Tubai. Here the clashed with the local chief, because they undermined his authority. When Fletcher Christian abandonned this settlement and returned to Tahiti, some Tubains accompanied him, because they had already fallen out with their chief by allying with the Europeans.
Sources include: Barrow, Mutiny on the Bounty,
Fragile Paradise by Glyn Christian, London 1982
Pitcairn: what happened, by Brian W Scott, in Mutiny on The Bounty 1789-1989, published London 1989
It is also interesting to note that all dates from the Mutiny are all out by one day from modern reckening, for what we now call the International Dateline, at the time referred to as Western or Eastern Meridiannial time. The Bounty had sailed east to Tahiti, and it appears that Capt Bligh had never adjusted, and this error was carried to Pitcairn with the mutineers, where Fletcher Christian's eldest son was know as Thursday October Christian until he was about 18 and it was found that he should be known as Friday October Christian.
Noel Ellis  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis (talk • contribs) 08:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Polynesian background 

message: Facts referenced to Coenen (1997) are suspect because they are drawn from events in Nordhoff and Hall's novel, which even Coenen admits is speculative. Goustien (talk) 19:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable source
Category talk:Military-related organizations

message: Copied from :Category:Military organizations:
I set up this category to gather together the widely dispersed organizations relating to the military, and used the simplest available category name, modeled after other names in :Category:Organizations by subject.  However, I recognize that there may be some possibility of confusion with :Category:Military organization -- organizations within the military, the military organization itself, which is itself a topic as well as a category. I've put up notes to try to distinguish, but open up the floor here for other suggestions. Maybe there are other category names that would work better? "Military-related organizations" is another strong possibility. --Lquilter 17:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on evidence of confusion in discussions of similar categories, I've come to the conclusion that the category would be better named :Category:Military-related organizations.  Any objections? --Lquilter (talk) 19:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm the only editor, so copying & renaming it now. --Lquilter (talk) 05:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: category name
Talk:List of birds of the Pitcairn Islands

message: If you are interested in birds and Wikipedia, I really want you to keep editing, but we can't just add things to the article without an explanation. The changes you made recently didn't match with the article's source at https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/checklist.jsp?lang=EN®ion=pn&list=clements . If you have a better source, it would be great to use it, but until we know that you are not a boring vandal who edits bird articles, we've got to stick with the list from Avibase. Let us know and keep doing good work, but it has to be based on WP:RELIABLE sources. Thank you,05:36, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey anonymous person 121.73.69.213
Talk:Vaitakere

message: I have categorised this as 'Cook Islands' for language reasons only - Cook Islands languages have v and t and k, whereas NZ Māori and Hawaiian have no v, Hawaiian has no t and Tahitian has no k, and Western Polynesian languages have no r. The reference to Ina also indicates Cook Islands, since Cook Islands drop h and Ina is Hina elsewhere.  This is another stub created from the dubious Encyclopedia Mythica, and hard to verify. The reference given in the article tells me nothing Kahuroa (talk) 02:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]
Talk:Mai-Kai Restaurant

message: I don't understand why this section was removed, it seemed relevant given the cult appeal of places like this from that era. Should the removed links be restored under See Also?
Geoffb91 (talk) 21:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Related Restaurants and Bars
Talk:Makemake (deity)

message: :PRONUNCIATION
::Is it "māk-māk" or "mah-kay-mah-kay?" Perhaps this should be obvious, but I'm not a linguist or a phoneticist. It seems unclear to me. Thank you, and I apologize for the inconvenience.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.5.213 (talk) 21:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The latter. Sorry that this is over twelve years late. Double sharp (talk) 08:42, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Ara Tiotio

message: I find this entire article and its single source very dubious. There are plenty of publications on Māori mythology - do any mention this deity? Nurg (talk) 11:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there is a Māori word awhiowhio that can mean tornado, whirlwind or whirlpool, so the notion that there is an Australian Awhiowhio is extremely unlikely. I think Coulter got his info muddled. Nurg (talk) 11:41, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Entirely dubious article
Talk:Hine-nui-te-pō

message: Hello! I found this article and noticed that it has a few issues that could be remedied by someone with expertise in Maori mythology. The two listed sources are quite old (over 50 years) and the article itself is written in story form, rather than presenting information about the mythological content in an encyclopedic way. In my brief research into the article, I discovered several different tellings of the story of how Hine-nui-te-po became a goddess of the underworld. I think the article needs someone with more familiarity with the Maori pantheon and appropriate sources to back up the info. --Curdigirl (talk) 02:45, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert needed
Talk:Aumakua

message: Someone who knows how to do it, pls. add "disambiguation" links to "Aumakua" and "Aumakua (moth)" entries.
Thanks!  philiptdotcom (talk) 23:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  someone pls. add disambiguation 

message: I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:CS, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, WP:BLP, WP:NOR, et al. This diff shows where it was in the article. Nightscream (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited material in need of citations
Talk:Tangata manu

message: "bird-man," from tangata "bird" + manu "human beings", 
Should be : "bird-man," from tangata "human beings" + manu "bird"   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.1.81.228 (talk) 08:55, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation error? 

message: From the article "The contestants would each appoint a Hopu who would swim to Motu Nui and fetch them the Egg, ... Once the first egg was collected, the final task would be for the unsuccessful contestants to return to Orongo, the winner allowed to remain in Motu Nui until he felt spiritually prepared to return."
As written, this is incomprehensible.  The first sentence quoted would seem to imply that the winner is the first person to get the Egg back to Orongo, but the second sentence seems to imply that the winner was recognized while still on Motu Nui.  Someone who understands this needs to explain it.
:This contradiction has apparently been addressed and fixed. Gap9551 (talk) 05:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's going on here? 

message: *Rukunga, the last bird man died in 1866
--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:10, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last birdman 

message: Specifically, that the finder of the first egg tries to deliver it to the contestant, and if he fails to deliver it unbroken, other people have their chance. Leob (talk) 03:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A local tour guide tells the story differently
Talk:Tapa cloth

message: Tapa is used as the canvas for painting intricate patterns. The finished product is used in a decorative way. Being worn on the body is reserved for formal events, and by those of high traditional rank. The higher the rank, the more intricate are the patterns. The quality of a piece is a function of size and intricacy. Woven mats are used for sitting and sleeping on. Tonga generally is regarded as having the best mats.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.61.122 (talk) 23:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tapa and Mats 

message: Please see Draft:Siapo (Polynesian craft) for possible merge material. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:46, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible merge from [[Draft:Siapo (Polynesian craft)]] 

message: I haven't read much of the main article, but I noticed several of phrases that seem ... awkward, or stilted:
*In Tonga, tapa is known as ngatu, and here it is of great social importance to the islanders, often being given as gifts. 
*The bark of this tree is much better to use, and put the use of the dye-fig into oblivion. 
*In former times the cloth was primarily used for clothing, but now cotton and other textiles have replaced it. The major problem with tapa clothing is that the tissue loses its strength when wet and falls apart. (Still it was better than grass-skirts, which usually are either heavier and harder or easily blown apart
*It is unknown how Polynesians came into the Pacific but the clothing was originally made from another material. When their clothes wore out in the Pacific they taught African woman how to make the tapa substitute cloth.
I have to wonder if this is not copied from somewhere else, particularly the first example above, which says "here" as though written as a tourist brochure or something. Anyone care to take a look around and see if this is original or copied?
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 21:06, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio? 
Talk:Kaulu

message: A God,a powerful gender less humanoid GOD . 190.80.51.97 (talk) 02:42, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Kailua look like? 

message: a GOD, a powerful gender less humanoid GOD. 190.80.51.97 (talk) 02:45, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  How does kaulu look like? 

message: Kaulu lived to fight many gods  and with doing so he became strong .he has never lost a fight .since kaulu does not AGE ... Well he can change his age and appearance but he doesn't look old or have an old age. In mind he can aider stay young but look like an adult .☺ 190.80.51.97 (talk) 02:52, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  How old is kaulu? 

message: Why is the article titled Kaulu but the opening text only mentions Kaiwa? Al Begamut (talk) 21:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaulu/Kaiwa
Talk:Filippo Reef

message: Does Filippo Reef actually exist? Is there any reported sighting of it other than the original 1886 report?
Could the original report have been mistaken? Is the reef visible in satellite photography? Does satellite bathymetry  show a seamount at the indicated location?  67.168.86.129 (talk) 05:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Filippo Reef actually exist? 

message: The article states that there was only one sighting of breakers, sighted in 1926, mentioned in the first link provided (of which it says is on page 40 (page 40 of the actual document, page 40 is the fifth page of the PDF, but typing 40 into the page number will take you to the correct location)). This is an incorrect statement. If you read it it says that breakers sighted in 1926 were seen to be about 30 miles to the southwest of the reef with a length of 68 meters. Then it goes on to say breakers were again sighted, this time about 80 miles to the south east of the reef, in 1944. That is two sightings in that link, not one. There is also a warning concerning the currents coming off the reef. -annonymous 2/25/2011 9:01 PM EST  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.71.221.156 (talk) 02:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Sighting Reference
Talk:King of Easter Island

message: Someone should created a list.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Were there also any queen regnants? --Aciram (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now introduced a list using this []. I can not garantee how acurate this link is. Please feel free to edit. Here is another link: []--Aciram (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: One list names Queen Vakai as queen regnant, one does not. I supose she could also be a co-regent.--Aciram (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of monarchs 

message: I have not noticed if the article does not specify if the children of Hotu Matu’a were male or female or both. If it is known, this should be stated. --Aciram (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children of Hotu Matu’a 

message: Koreto and her daughter are not actual Queens of Easter Island and they aren't recognize as such. Their title come from the fanciful invention of a French traveler. Koreto was just the mistress of the islands most powerful foreign resident Jean-Baptiste Dutrou-Bornier.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koreto and daughter 

message: So this Article says, but according to List of current pretenders, a man named Valentino Riroroko Tuki is the current abolished-office pretender of Easter Island. Perhaps we should credit him as an "heir," instead of saying it is unknown. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 02:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It is unknown who is the current heir"? 

message: the 8th century category that you added seems too precise. In the list further down there is a mention of c. 400 and the article Hotu Matuꞌa says between 300 and 800. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks; I have reverted that and stated multiple estimates. A citation is needed for 300–400 AD. – Fayenatic London 19:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  8th century category
Talk:Kāne Milohaʻi

message: Kanemilohai is Pele's brother. See e.g. The Epic Tale of Hi'iakaikapoliopele. Kane is one of the four major gods. This article has everything all jumbled up together. Needs lots of work! Makana Chai (talk) 17:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Kanemilohai is not Kane

message: The "references" are to woo-woo web sites that are riddled with errors. Makana Chai (talk) 08:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed that and the Kāne page so they at least refer to the right gods, but they're still just based on flipping through a couple of books.  Still much work to be done to bring them up to bare minimum.  KarlM (talk) 07:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mahalo nui loa! You are great. Hope you can keep on it. I'll help later if I can. Makana Chai (talk) 08:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: References bogus
Talk:Polynesian Triangle

message: "The Polynesian Triangle is a region of the Pacific Ocean with three island groups at its corners: Hawaii, Easter Island (Rapa Nui) and New Zealand". Easter Island is a single island, not an island group. Avihu (talk) 06:31, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on opening line 

message: How is a Polynesian triangle begin 58.105.124.54 (talk) 10:13, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humanities
Talk:Lavalava

message: Is this really still a stub?  Thmazing (talk) 18:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub notice 

message: And why is it spelled with a hyphen, when the term is solid (lavalava) in both Milner's and Pratt's Samoan dictionaries? 71.178.54.233 (talk) 16:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyphen

message: Apart from having a different name, how is the lava-lava different from a sarong? Within the English Wikipedia we don’t have separate pages for trousers, pantalon, Hosen etc because the garment has a different name in different languages.Tsuguya (talk) 03:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: cf sarongs

message: The article Lap-lap should be scrapped and referred here. It is erroneous in its description as applied in PNG and Solomon Islands during the last 50 years (see my Talk under that article), and the simpler form of lavalava is identical to the PNG/Solomons lap-lap or rami. The biggest difference between Polynesian lavalavas and Melanesian laplaps (a more accurate spelling) is that there is little tendency in PNG/Solomons to tailor them for formal occasions, as there is in Polynesia. Ptilinopus (talk) 06:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lap-lap merger 

message: Wasn't this page supposed to be Lava-Lava! by Federico Vitali?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4B:300:BFE9:741A:4873:90D3:7C14 (talk) 20:03, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tv series by Federico Vitali
Talk:Turehu

message: I've just trimmed the following out:
:Turehu were credited with great ability in stone working by the Polynesian Maori, and many great early Pa, or palisaded forts, are credited as being built by the Turehu. Unexplained coffins with tall red-haired skeletons, of a non-Polynesian origin, are regularly discovered and turned over to the local Maori Iwi for disposal.[www.kilts.co.nz/mhorruairidh.htm]
If there's a real theory here, and support from somewhere credible then it can go back in - but please provide better links and support that what was there. Extraordinary claims require at least a little evidence... Snori (talk) 09:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Crackpot theories

message: Because they are synonyms effectively. Kahuroa (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirecting article to [[Patupaiarehe]]
Talk:Tū-te-wehiwehi

message: We need a picture of a New Zealand reptile, such as the Tuatara. The current picture is of a lizard not native to New Zealand. If no one objects I will edit the article to reflect this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.246.75 (talk) 18:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Prime Minister of Samoa

message: Vaai Kolone was a member of the HRPP but he resigned from that party and defected to form a coalition government with the Christian Democratic Party. There is a Wikipedia entry for both the Christian Democratic Party and Vaai kolone on this very fact. Are you even Samoan? World Statesman isn’t a credible source. I will be making a complaint if you keep changing these facts. Jwul004 (talk) 00:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: My ethnicity is irrelevant. Next time add a source with your initial edit so other editors don't remove the content you add. Cheers, — N Panama 84534 00:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled
Talk:2007 South Pacific Games

message: The event name should probably revert back to the "2007 South Pacific Games", as the dropping of "South" did not occur until after/at the 2007 Games. The ONOC site also says in "going forward" to drop the "South", meaning that 2009 Mini Games are the first Games to use the "PG" title rather "SPG". Hooperswim (talk) 20:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Event name
Talk:Malu

message: As a Samoan sometimes you may have to earn the malu and also have to be ok with the high chiefs and elders. The malu also has to be tapped on has a tatau ( tatoo). 2605:59C8:F6:5210:F933:5B5F:5D9D:4D43 (talk) 00:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to earn a malu
Talk:Public holidays in Samoa

message: . . .
Please note that this table gives details for Father's Day, missing from the Wikipedia table. Unfortunately my wiki skills are not up to adding the extra day.
http://www.anz.com/samoa/en/about-us/anz-samoa/country-information/public-holidays/
Avaiki (talk) 01:23, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference for public holidays
Talk:German Samoa

message: I've added the link to the SMS Geier, although there is some dispute as to the ship's classification. In this article its called a "small gunboat", in SMS Geier a "light cruiser", and in Geier a "sloop". I'm fairly certain all articles refer to the same ship. I found a short history of the Geier as well as several pictures of it on this blog, but it unfortunately doesn't have any references.
::Mojowiha (talk) 13:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SMS Geier 

message: German colonial administration in Samoa 1900-1914 203.99.159.200 (talk) 07:58, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History
Talk:List of diplomatic missions of Samoa

message: There is now a discussion at WP:FOR on the formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" articles. As this discussion ostensibly could affect this article, editors are encouraged to provide their opinions on the WP:FOR at this link - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#Formatting_of_diplomatic_missions_lists - please do not discuss on this article talk page as valid points for consideration may very well not be seen by editors at large. Thank you, --Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 00:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion at WP:FOR on formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" article
Talk:Economy of Samoa

message: (2012, July 4). IMF board hails Samoa's economic performance. Daily The Pak Banker 
Kerin, J. (2009, November 9). Pacific region growth stays slow. Australian Financial Review
Wiseman, D. (2012, August 21). Samoa's weak economy will be raised with federal officials. Radio New Zealand News International 
Caseyhealy (talk) 04:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: References
Talk:Trevor Misipeka

message: "American Samoa Track & Field had enterecd Trevor in the Shot Put event but weeks before we were infromed that it was not possible to enter any quota athlete in the Field Events. That this was a new policy and the discretion was left to the IAAF Official in charge of the Chmapionships. After being informed, I was very disappointed and was intstructed not to send my Shot Put athlete but to send an athlete to run the 100 meter event. It was ironic that this same opportunity that had given Trevor's sister the chance to compete in which she astonished the world by winning the Bronze Metal in the Hammer Throw at the IAAF Seville World Championships. Now the IAAF were telling us to not send this Shot Putter but to send a 100 meter athlete instead. I personally had the task of telling Trevor that he could not go to an event he had been planning to go with his sister who was also competing in the Hammer. I decided that I was going to send the 100 meter athlete and told Trevor that he was my 100 meter athlete. I told him that he would be the highlight and the talk of the Championships and the only thing I told him to be very careful of was to not "False Start!" 
I told him I was probably going to revceive a lot of criticism but I did not have the heart to tell the kid that he could not go.
(Just wanted to clarify that you can not go to an IAAF event and then just happen to find out your are not in an event, and then decide to enter an event, it does not work like that. The IAAF is very methodical; meticulous and organized to ever let that happen.)
"And the rest as they say is HISTORY!!! 
Regards,
Don F Lutu
President (ASA)
American Samoa Track & Field Association"
--Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:16, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from article space
Talk:Tui Manuʻa Elisala

message: Isn't this article just about Tui Manu'a Elisala? It has a lot of information that would be more suitable for the Tui Manu'a article. It needs to be either merged or re-edited.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of stuff here is about the title also. The contents here dealing with Elisala should be kept but all other informations about the title and history of the Tui Manuʻa should be created as a separate article.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elisala  

message: Was he Alalamua's son or grandson? The intro says son but the section on an entry and succession  says he was the second son of Tui Manu'a Alalamua.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:57, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to Alalamua 