Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poker/Guidelines

message: I have mainly just copied the list posted in the discussion of the WikiProject Poker page, I just thought I'd make an official article about it.  The content will probably need reviewing, I for one am not sure about one of the cases listed.  Why should "slow play" not use a hyphen? "Slow play" doesn't seem dissimilar from "check-raise".  They are both verbs used to describe the doing of some sort of play, and they are both specific poker terms.  Why should "slow play" not use a hyphen? --Hpesoj00 14:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Slow" is an adjective describing the play, but "check" and "raise" are two verbs.  Since you can't usually put two unrelated verbs together syntactically in English, the hyphen is necessary.  Also, you'll never see "check-raise" outside of a gaming context, but any baseball player could maka a slow play.  Finally, a check-raise is a more well defined move than a slow play, which is more of a general strategy. Ojcit 20:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs addition and revision

message: Please refine list.  Could be turned into a page on it's own?--Hpesoj00 00:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good, but is there a way to sub-categorize them?  They'll overlap, but generally you have stud games, draw games, community games, and games with card passing (pineapple? I've never played it myself).  Would it be more useful to have separate lists in separate articles, or would that just create more work?  Are there other lists of card games and/or casino games we'd need to interface cleanly with? Ojcit 00:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I compiled this list by looking though articles describing the general categories of poker games, so I'm not sure separating them into separate articles again would be very productive.  Categorising them may be useful, but as you said, there would be significant overlap in some cases.  My initial aim was just to make a reference list of standard names for poker games, so perhaps leaving them in alphabetical order would be the best idea?  I don't think the list should be added until there is some agreement about whether to add them to the main page or create a new page, and also that the current list is sensible (especially with the major game names).  --Hpesoj00 21:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of standard poker games 

message: I have changed the pronoun guideline.  It did not have consensus before at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poker.  If someone is interested in changing it back, I would be happy to discuss it.  But, please, don't add it back until we have reached a consensus about it. --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 18:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronoun 

message: I have replaced the length discussion of the appearance of cards with a simple requirement to use the  template.  Since  follows all of our guidelines, this results in no actual change in the appearance of our pages.   However, it greatly simplifies the requirements here and actually opens up more options for the editor.  --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 20:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cards template 

message: There is currently an ongoing discussion about the future of this and others MoS naming style. Please consider the issues raised in the discussion and vote if you wish GnevinAWB (talk) 20:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: MoS naming style

message: I do not understand the naming conventions here. I would expect that the names of games are proper nouns (Texas Hold 'Em, Five-card Draw, Pai Gow Poker, Omaha Hi-Lo). The alternative would be common nouns (Texas hold 'em, five-card draw, Pai Gow poker, Omaha hi-lo). I can't figure out why the recommendations include "playing Five-card draw" (neither proper noun nor common noun), or why "Hi-Lo" is capitalized while "hold 'em" isn't. But a quick scan of the New York Times hits shows plenty of inconsistency too (Texas Hold 'em on November 10, Texas Hold 'Em on October 24, Texas hold 'em on April 21). Can someone explain? -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is inconsistency all over the place both on Wiki and the general public on all these names.  The way this guideline approaches it is basically a reflection of how the mass of articles are/were currently named.  In other words, whoever was editing in 2004 or so chose this way, and so guidelines written four or so years later were adopted reflecting the current practice, largely because adopting something else now would need a great change of behavior, and would probably lead to many broken links if changes were meade piecemeal.  There have been discussions at WP:POKER about names and changing how we do it, so maybe you can start a discussion there where more eyes will see it.  But so far there hasn't been a strong consensus on the part of at least a half dozen people to change the way things have been done. 2005 (talk) 22:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming conventions