Talk:The Residents

message: "Given that their members speak only through their work, however, even their attitudes can only be inferred."  The Residents have given interviews, so this is quite untrue.  Google will find you several and Tape Op ran one a year or so ago.  I suppose technically the interviews often are attributed to Cryptic Corporation spokespeople, though in one online interview the interviewer said "So, the theory of obscurity is over?" or somethiing to that extent, and the interviewees (the two HF's) concurred.Xproudfoot 21:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "Backstage at a show on Christmas of 1986, one member's eyeball mask was stolen, so it was replaced with a giant skull mask. The eye was returned in 1985 by a devoted fan who discovered where the thief lived and stole it back."
-Umm, is this a typo or is time travel now part of The Residents mythology? A mask is stolen Christmas '86 and returned in '85?
Benjamin Ickies
         Yes, you're right. It was stolen on December 26th 1985, I'll fix it.
I also believe that the incident about the stolen eyeball should not be under "early history". The mid-80s is certainly not early history for the Residents. I think it should be moved in a new category, something like "various information" or "various myths" etc. but I don't know how to do it. Thank you for your time. - Thehar
Was the mask actually stolen?  If so, were the police involved over this theft?  After all, these are not cheap props that the Residents wore on their tours, these were costly.   It is my opinion (and I'm willing to listen to anyone who can prove this to me otherwise) that this is part of the urban legends that The Residents use to promote their act.   It's not a bad thing, it's even kind of fun, but it shouldn't be promoted as history if it is, in fact, just farce.  - David Fields  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.93.154 (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  stolen eye mask 

message: The Residents are not actually mentioned in the book "Big Secrets", it's just that the author who's famous for these books, has had a go at this secret as well. So I changed that back. Juryen 10:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not in William Poundstone's Big Secrets, but one of the two sequels; namely, either Bigger Secrets or Biggest Secrets. All of which are a great read, I might add.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 18:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Biggest Secrets", pages 37-40, to be exact.  66.215.206.85 15:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Secrets 

message: I was looking through the third reich n roll booklet and saw that one of the residents in the pictures has crutches or some walking assistants,anyone know anything about this.
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Yes, it's nothing more than an illustration. The Residents are not disabled.
Are you crazy? All four of them are blind in one eye. 223.133.119.240 (talk)four tildes  —Preceding undated comment added 16:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handicapped Resident 

message: * I'm undecided between merging that article into this one, or just moving for it to be deleted as it's just a copy/paste quote. TS1 20:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Timmy (The Residents)]] in to this article. 

message: The comments about Copyright law and the BMI royalties arrangements in the article are incorrect.  I am an intellectual property lawyer.  The Copyright Act requires that the actual authors of the compositions be listed in the application as "authors."  The "claimant" line is separate, meaning that the claimant to the copyrights can be different from the "author(s" but the "author(s)" must still be specified.  Now, an "author" may register a copyright under a pseudonym, but when this is done, the application must indicate that the author's contribution is pseudonymous.  The copyright registrations for the Residents compositions were not obtained under a pseudonym and the "authors" are a matter of public record.  This is the one "mistake" the Residents made, and unfortunately could do nothing about (other than "spin" it, as reflected in the article 801greg 08:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't matter who they are. We play along, it's just more fun that way. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 22:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I would add that you can never really be sure. For instance, it has been said that Homer Flynn is the singer. Yet in some DVDs from tours he can be clearly seen shooting a video with his camera, while the singer is on stage. Ergo, he cannot be the same person, except if he is a wizard (which wouldn't surprise me coming from the Residents...)--130.235.141.174 15:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, the keyboard player/midi controller also plays live.  There are two Residents (at least presently), and both are almost always on stage.  Also, where does the article get Slidell, Louisiana from, as the residence of the Residents?  Both of the primary (and current) Residents went to Byrd High School in Shreveport.  Publicly available database records also reveal that their parents lived and died there, and the Residents did too.  They also appear on a rare album compilation (first released on cassette) entitled, "It Came From Shreveport," which has all local bands.  I am not sourcing these discussion points, nor adding them to the article, because, to prove what I have just said, I would have to reveal their identities, and I will not.801greg 08:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Seconded; the Residents are much more than the (speculated) sum of their parts.  This section should be moved closer to the bottom of the page (or, at least, somewhere other than the very top). Kubikajiri 06:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity 

message: The Residents are one of those things (or groups of things, rather) that should be researched extensively before writing about it.  Anyone who's been reading articles on them over the last thirty years should be shaking their head at this article and the changes that have been made to it.  I think maybe people should have to be certified in Residential lore before being allowed to alter this page.  The rumors are part of their history (and their art, sometimes).
The point is, the article seems to be trying to be too specific.  It's the Residents--anyone writing anything in this article should know that everything s/he is typing might be total bullshit--and that should at least be somewhat reflected in the text, unless we want to lose our readers.
One writer (after trying to write an article on the Residents and finding it very difficult) once said that he got the impression that journalists and music critics were supposed to make part of the lore up as they went along, since neither the Residents nor the Cryptic Corporation liked giving complete answers.
That having been said, there is one "fact" in this article that is grossly incorrect: "They formed in 1972 and released their first record that year..."  Now read the Early History section.  How could they have formed in 1972 if they got their name based on a rejected demo tape from 1971?  Then, they even performed and released another "pre-album" under the name "Residents" before their first official release, Santa Dog, even came about in 1972.
I would rewrite it, but all this typing has made me tired.
Funkeboy 10:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Settle Down and Do Some Research 

message: I'm thinking of a new section about the constant collaborators of the band (the "R-Band" as some have called them).
But where would this section go? 
Suggestions? Objections? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Santa Dog 72 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section 

message: This article reads like it was written by the Residents or their publicist.  Lots of "probably" and "one might say/speculate/infer" etc.  Also, there are no citations to many of the factual assertions... eg.:
   "Much of the speculation about the members' true identities swirls around their management team, known as "The Cryptic Corporation." Cryptic was formed by Jay Clem, Homer Flynn, Hardy Fox, and John Kennedy in 1976, all of whom denied having been band members."
Where is this speculation happening?  Is it being written down somewhere?  I assume there is speculation on fan pages, etc. which could be documented.
:Lots of this speculation is/was presented on the Smelly Tongues email list.
Where do we get the info about the formation of Cryptic and its members?  Articles of Incorporation are public record.  In what state is Cryptic incorporated?  
Where do Hardy, Fox, and Kennedy deny being band members? Answer: In person, should one have the opportunity to ask. (Kennedy was a member of Cryptic Corp but was never a Resident.) The only two people who have ever been the actual Residents will tell you that they are the Residents' "engineers," which is a nice way of telling the truth without explicitly indicating "band membership." 
The tone of the entire article is like this.  DougRWms 04:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you seriously asking or just trying to make a point?  There are tons upon tons of articles from the 70s that play back and forth with the Cryptics admitting and then denying that they're the Residents.  I can't cite them because I can't find them.  They were from publications like Melody Maker and New Music Express.  Funkeboy 23:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel words, POV, and lack of citations plague this article 

message: the influence N. Senada had on my work has proven effective.  I'm now somewhat famous in China, by following through with the ideas presented.  N. Senada's influence and the validity of this theory of obscurity as a means of producing effective artistic expressions is terribly important and should be considered as a thing in itself, outside of the residents.  this article should not be merged.  I feel pretty strongly about this, strongly enough that I'll jump into the discussion with only the barest understanding of this whole wikipedia thingy.  -wu
You've become somewhat famous by adhering to the Theory of Obscurity...?DougRWms 08:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: does not need to exist to be real

message: copied from the main article
My name is Steve Crabtree. In 1982 I met Snakefinger at a solo show at JB's Underground in Kent, Ohio. Mr. Finger was an American. He was definately not of european descent and I asked him about N. Senada. He told me that he had never met N. Senada in peraon, that Mr. Senada had only sent the band tapes. Snakefinger died a few years later of a heart defect and we will miss his strange guitar. At the show in Kent Ohio he was polaying a guitar neck attached to a sheet of plywood, he used a slide and introduced his band as the "Dead Residents." This was after the release of bhis second album. Les Claypool was conspicuously absent. -- User:75.163.134.138
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Mr. Crabtree, Snakefinger, Philip Lithman, was English, not American. If you had met him, this should have been obvious to you, as he never lost his accent or UK manner of speaking.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.157.228.170 (talk) 20:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding N. Senada 

message: I've changed the infobox and introduction to read "late 1960s" for two reasons: 1, the article itself contradicts the 1972 date in the early history section (which indicates that, while uncertain, a late-60s formation is likely) and 2. the compilation album Stranger than Supper includes a Residents recording dating from 1971 which renders the 1972 date incorrect in any case. 23skidoo 11:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Formation date

message: Moving triva section here, lets try to work some of this into the artcle, if you can't do that it really should not be here.
*Simpsons creator Matt Groening (who wrote a mostly fictional article about the band's history) and journalist Jim Knipfel are fans of the band.
*Les Claypool is a fan of the band, and they are a main influence on Claypool's musical trio, Primus who covered "Sinister Exaggerator" on their Miscellaneous Debris EP, as well as "Hello Skinny" and "Constantinople" on the re-release of their album Frizzle Fry.
*Claypool also made reference to The Residents in the song The Air Is Getting Slippery with the lyrics "Now if you want an encore, you might hear Is it Luck, but me I'd rather play The Residents because I don't give a fuck."
*The eyeball mask theft from the Hollywood Palace show is referenced in the Cracker song "Ain't Gonna Suck Itself".
*The cover of The Residents' LP Eskimo appeared in a Spanish TV commercial of Fnac.
*The Residents were to work on a Bad Day on the Midway television series with David Lynch, but said series was too strange for the networks. 
*Eskimo was considered for a Grammy Award, but not nominated. The Residents were  still invited to the ceremonies, and shared a table with Donna Summer.
*In the afformentioned Groening article, it is mentioned that they called themselves "The New Beatles" for a brief period of time, before "The Residents".
**Eskimo was for a time going to be made into an opera, but the project was abandoned.
*In the episode Showdown at Cremation Creek (Part I) of Venture Brothers, the character "The Alchemist" holds an eyeball-looking orb up to his head, saying "Look, I'm in the Residents!"
*On the Penn & Teller tape "Cruel tricks for Dear Friends" after one of the segments, the video "Act of Being Polite" plays.
*For their 10th Anniversary special they locked Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) in a hotel room for 6 days with nothing but their albums and paid/forced him to record his thoughts as he listened to them.  The result was a limited edition cassette that was later re-released as a CD.
It is also on vinyl. I have a copy that was given to me by them.
*After recording an entire album of songs that were one minute long in 1980, The Commercial Album, the group purchased one minute advertising spots on San Francisco’s most popular Top 40 radio station and had the entire album, all 40 songs, played by the station over a period of three days. Billboard Magazine wrote an editorial about it questioning whether it was advertising, payola, or art.
*The Residents are  often credited with inventing the form of the music video. Five of their earliest videos are in the permanent collection of the Museum of Modern Art in New York.
*In 1991 The Residents released their album, Freak Show. In a show of media strength it came out as an LP, CD, soft and hard bound graphic novels, video, award winning CD-ROM, and a live production that ran for 21 performances at the Archa Theater in Prague, Czech Republic.  The live performances were conducted by Czech musician Miroslav Wanek and performed by an expanded version of his band Uz Jsme Doma.
*The Residents, in 1993, wrote a ten hour score for The Discovery Channel nature show, Hunters.
*They have also scored 5 shows of Pee Wee’s Playhouse and assorted programs for MTV.
*Two years in a row, they won awards from Entertainment Weekly magazine for top computer entertainment software. 1995: Freak Show CD-ROM, 1996: Bad Day on the Midway CD-ROM.
*Marlboro cigarettes commissioned a performance piece for a German promotion in 1997, Disfigured Night. Paranoid that the group was making fun of them, Marlboro asked that there be no appearance by Residents’ regular, Mr. Skull.
Ridernyc 15:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: The last paragraph of the Album Era section needs to be moved someplace else.  Not sure where maybe a new section.Ridernyc 15:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mtv and MoMA

message: This section needs major work.  How can there not even be a single mention of Cube E?  Also no mention of the scale of the live shows, costumes, back drops, etc...
Ridernyc 15:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Performance Era

message: I just counted each album on their discography page, because I knew they had released more albums than sixty, and this is what I got:
Audio (1972-1980) 19
Audio (1981-1986) 24
Audio (1987-1994) 30
Audio (1995-2004) 26
Audio (2005-    ) 10
and, by my count, that's 109.  I may change the front page thing from almost sixty to over 100, because this is ALL albums, even the new ones, and even the underground limited-release ones. Feel free to change this if you prove me wrong.  65.12.134.148 12:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over 100 Albums 

message: The way the headings are layed out in the article is a bit messed up IMO. I'd like to suggest a new order, and perhaps from there we can get the article a bit more organized. Structure is based from the presentation on Residents.com. I also just copied and pasted some original text to give an example on how it would look in the new structure. 
I put the example on my Sandbox page. I am going to use it as a sketchpad so I can re-build the article at my own pace. Please take a look and let me know what you think. If it's to everybody's liking I'm prepared to re-format the article, change a few misspellings and add more content. And don't worry - I'm not gonna re-write the whole darn thing, many things there are very good indeed.
All the best
Numb Erone (talk) 17:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headings in article 

message: There were numerous instances of incorrect grammar, spelling, and punctuation on the page; I've cleaned up as many instances as I found, but there may be some I missed.  72.184.120.177 (talk) 12:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: don't know enough about this - it's a kind of costume,too Prisms and rain (talk) 17:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  your work with vocoder 

message: The following line in the introduction needs revision (or removal):
Despite the fact these identities are well known, many fans continue to pretend band members have managed to remain completely anonymous throughout the group's existence
The main problem is that this just doesn't belong in the intro. The sentence refers to a handful of fans on this talk page who have essentially said "it's more fun not knowing". This is hardly worth mentioning in the introductory paragraph for the entire article. It's hardly worth more than a footnote anywhere in the article at all.
Also, whether it's intentional or not, the sentence sounds condescending. Furthermore, it's weasel-wordy - and the reference link goes to the WP talk page! 
I would suggest removing it entirely, but if someone wants to come up with better wording, better placement, and better sources, feel free! Just my two cents.
--PNB (talk) 08:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one cared enough to respond one way or another, I've taken the liberty to remove the sentence from the intro myself. I assume no one objects. PNB (talk) 19:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Many fans continue to pretend..." 

message: I just went out of curiosity through the sources which "solidly establish" the identity of The Residents and it is crystal clear that they establish nothing. One is an article that has pasted wikipedia material, one is on the actual website of The Residents and says nothing (of course), and the third is a thread about their costumes, with comments below offering opinions. The other three sources (the "band's own publicity efforts") are interviews of Homer Flynn, where nothing pertaining to the actual identities of The Residents is being discussed. And one is actually some sort of mailing list (!) of Residents fans... What is clearly established through these "sources" is that the Cryptic Corporation was indeed created by the four people the article mentions. But nothing on the identity of The Residents. I propose we re-word it.--Theoharis (talk) 22:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I absolutely second this.  There is nothing anywhere near "solid establishment" of the identity of the Residents in any of these articles - there's not even an attempt at circumstantial establishment that I can find in a single one of them.  I haven't been too involved with the Residents Wiki article and thus I don't feel right coming in and changing it myself, but I would really encourage someone else to, because it (in my opinion) comes across as very weak in its argumentation with such bold and controversial claims that have no reinforcement or defense in their alleged sources.  Too often I see Wiki content survive simply on the basis of the fact that it's reinforced with multiple references, where no verification of the content of these references has been undertaken.  Let's not let this happen with such an interesting and open-ended subject as the Residents' true identities.  The claims in the opening paragraph are unsubstantiated and should be completely changed.  Colinclarksmith (talk) 03:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I agree also. We need better sources for those types of claims. Thanks for cleaning the intro up for us. PNB (talk) 19:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Residents' identity 

message: They are growing out of control and pretty much just turning into giant lists.  Ridernyc (talk) 16:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Notable fans sections

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message: I'm surprised that the article doesn't mention that, according to the Texas Birth Index records here, Hardy Winfred Fox Jr. was born in Gregg County, Texas on 29 March 1945.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardy W. Fox 

message: Shouldn't we mention the fact that The Residents are working with Don Hardy on making a documentary on themselves and that members of Ween, Primus and Devo among others will be interviewed and discuss the Residents' influence on they're style? 96.224.71.102 (talk) 15:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: if you can find a reliable third-party source for this information (excluding IMDb), then sure! if you are not comfortable or have doubts about making the edit yourself, feel free to put the information and citation on this talk page with an edit request. ~ Boomur [☎] 18:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to the article 

message: The Residents have confirmed on their Facebook wall that Chuck is the drummer https://www.facebook.com/TheOfficialResidents  24.44.75.217 (talk) 03:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should take that with a bit of salt, and that the caption is a bit of a joke. Chuck is playing what appears to be a Korg Wavedrum, which is really a kind of MIDI controller in the form of a drum. It's another way of doing what he (or someone like him) has done in the past using a computer or a keyboard, and not "drumming" in the usual sense. DaveSeidel (talk) 03:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drummer 

message: May someone please add information on Theory of Obscurity the documentary The Residents are currently working on. 24.44.75.217 (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is not protected, so there's no reason why you can't add it yourself.  But, has the documentary been covered in outside sources, independent of the band?  If not, it really shouldn't be included.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:23, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Not "talking down" to you, but if you can add text to this page why can't you add text to that page?  Anyway, I've now had a duck stab at adding something.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request on May 31 2014 

message: Since Allmusic seems to have taken down everything about The Residents I say we should delete the links to reviews relating to The Residents on Allmusic.com as they are no longer there thoughts anyone? 24.44.75.217 (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links 

message: It would be beneficial to have a discography page.  Just looking for concensus on the matter.  Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 00:44, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography Page 

message: I am totally in awe of The Residents. However, this is a truly ghastly Wikipedia article, stuffed full of chattiness, fanboyism, and hype. It reads like a string of posts taken from an "appreciation" fansite. Phrases such as According to official Residents lore pointedly exemplify how non-encyclopedic this is. As well, this is certainly NOT the place for budding rock reviewers to be practicing their supposed craft. Changes may soon happen. Weeb Dingle (talk) 06:50, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. It's a fansite, almost in-universe. tedder (talk) 16:38, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  terrible article 

message: Even though it's pretty obvious who The Residents are, I only just now noticed that on Hardy Fox's website it officially states him as being the "primary composer, producer for The Residents from their beginning until 2015", with his own name being attributed rather than "Charles Bobuck".
As the post before mine says this is a pretty weak article full of fanboyisms, but this new fact does at least have substance with the Identity section of this article, with this article of information being on an official Residents article of media.Jpmcruiser (talk) 02:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardy Fox 

message: "The Residents" are not a real band. Hardy Fox (in character as Chuck Bobuck) admitted as much in an interview[1]. They are a fictional construct, in the same way Goofy or Donald Duck are fictional; their records, the art & advertisement/copy/press releases surrounding the records, the performers hired to portray them (even if said performers are also the creators, they are still "performers," in this case hiring themselves), should be approached similarly, and by taking this knowledge into account I feel this Wiki article may be vastly improved, exiting the realm of band-mythology and attempting to approach "reality" (a rather difficult and contentious notion in and of itself, as The Residents' mythology was manufactured [I think] to point out).
Walt Disney voice acting Mickey Mouse does not mean Walt Disney IS Mickey Mouse; hence Homer Flynn providing most of the voice(s) of "The Residents" on records (esp. after 1977), creating "their" lyrics, etc. does NOT mean he IS a Resident, because "The Residents" are an entirely fictional construct. Similarly, Hardy Fox coming out as "composer for The Residents" is no different than the fact that Mark Mothersbaugh was composer for "Rugrats" -- the key difference is that "The Residents" declined to credit individual contributors and purposefully sought to blur the line between fact & the media-manufactured fiction to which audiences had become accustomed via television, radio, merchandise (inc. LP's, singles, etc.), etc., whereas most productions credit all individuals clearly & decline to play such media games.
Interestingly, the guy wearing the Donald Duck costume at Disney World has been instructed to never disclose the fact that he "is" Donald Duck. He's told to tell friends/relatives/etc that he is "friends" with this aforementioned fictional icon. Very similar to "The Residents," which are a production of The Cryptic Corporation.
The goal, I think, of Homer Flynn, Hardy Fox, & the others involved in manufacturing "The Residents," was to intentionally blur the lines between fact and pop-culture mythology, as a sort of commentary on the relationship between art & business (called "Siamese twins" by Homer Flynn, in a lecture from the early '90's -- a reference to "God in Three Persons") and the audience which consumes its products.
We now live in an era where music and artist images are manufactured to market towards specific preexisting, risk-free demographics, readymade and pretending to "realness," when in actuality fictional & prefabricated. The "Pre-fab Four" were a clever commentary on this trend, already emergent in the early '70's when "The Residents" were first dreamed up. Press material is drawn up to be repeated by a vast network of online "influencers," which together generate the illusion of popularity and relevance to the consumer base; similarly (and in a much more crude, DIY, and relatively primitive/low-budget/tongue-in-cheek fashion), the creators of "The Residents" frequently wrote mythologized articles and reviews under false names to create the illusion that "The Residents" were real and worthy of attention (see: liner notes of "Third Reich n' Roll" release from 2011, review of MtR by "Harvey Sox" found on "The Residents 1972-1982" Facebook page, etc). A very interesting project.
[1] http://www.oregonmusicnews.com/charles-bobuck-hardy-fox-residents-interview -- "The Residents concept is completely malleable. It doesn't have to be associated with music.  It could become an iPhone app design company.  That is the remarkable aspect that sets the Residents apart from 'bands.'" Please note that both "Will Rothers" and "Charles Bobuck" are pseudonyms of Hardy Fox, who -- in this press release masquerading as an interview -- is "interviewing" himself. Since the very beginning of "The Residents" concept, this sort of manufactured, misleading media game-playing has been utilized to playfully (?) whet interest in this essentially fictional "band" amongst Cryptic's intended demographic.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:a51:1b0:7126:f415:96c8:19cd (talk • contribs) 04:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all interesting commentary, but I can't see how it would help improve the article.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

text: Gorillaz have always been presented as a virtual band, not a real band.  The Residents have usually been presented as a real band with anonymous members.  Your opinion as to the Residents' nature is interesting and may be valid, but it's still an opinion, and I don't think it represents the balance of reliable sources - which is what we report here.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What "The Residents" are, and how this article may be improved 

message: There have been previous reports of his death, on "official" Residents' web pages, and even yesterday it was being claimed on social media that premature announcements of his death had in fact been placed by Fox himself.  However, a post by his sister on Facebook in this thread (https://www.facebook.com/groups/CrypticCorporation/ - see post by Diane Fox Pasel) now does appear to give the necessary confirmation.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardy Fox's death 

message: It seems to me that - given Hardy Fox's death and the associated gradual removal of the mystique surrounding The Residents - that the time has come to mention, in the lead section, Homer Flynn as the co-founder.  It's now becoming attested in independent sources like this:  "...Fox was ultimately revealed as, along with Homer Flynn, one of the founders and primary composers of the group....".   We are an encyclopedia of record, and Fox is correctly mentioned in the lead - there seems little point now in unduly obscuring Flynn's equivalent involvement.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homer Flynn 

message: I'm admittedly not very good at getting in detail on the subject but this article desperately needs a section detailing the Residents' influence on the music world, cause the person above me is making a good question: sure, the Residents have a billion albums and CD-ROMs or whatever, but why should people care? It would greatly benefit the article if there was a section explaining the outside world's influence from them, the artists and bands inspired by them, etc. I may make an attempt at writing such a section in the future, but I'm currently busy putting some actual information in the history section. Moonlordress (talk) 23:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence section