Talk:Once (film)

message: Sorry to be uncontributive in this way, but I distinctly remember an instance of nondiagetic sound, music, at one point in the film, having remarked previously how it all appeared to be diagetic. Having been a week, I've forgotten, so if anyone watching it again could take a look, thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.183.163 (talk) 07:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I think that at least one if not more of the songs move away from being diagetic during the song. Being new to the term, I'm not absolutely sure if I'm thinking of this correctly or not. But many of the songs change setting after beginning, with montages beginning and settings changing while the songs play. Also, some songs start live, and then are enhanced by unseen musicians as the song segues from live to recorded versions. --Melty girl 19:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Completely Diagetic Sound, or 99%

message: CMB, please justify your deletion of spoiler tags on the talk page, not in edit summaries.  You cannot use WP:SPOILER as an authority, since it is disputed. --Jere7my 20:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who said it was an authority? It's only a style guide, anyway. The argument for removing spoiler tags is simple: they are redundant in the places that I removed them from. — Carl (CBM · talk) 00:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Carl, I don't think that's really a valid answer to Jere7my's concerns. Wikipedia has many policies -- are we to throw them all out? I think Jere7my is right to point out that the policy is disputed. Jere7my, I can understand why you might want spoiler tags -- after all, Wiki newbies might expect that no one would print endings -- but it is also true that the header of the section in question is "Plot," not "First Half of the Plot" or "Premise." In terms of a compromise, would you feel better about there being no spoiler tags on this article if either 1.) the opening of the article included the premise of the movie without spoilers, or 2.) there was a separate "Synopsis" (or other titled) section above "Plot" that gave the premise of the movie? --Melty girl 04:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep!  In general, I think that having separate "synopsis" and "detailed summary" sections work just as well as spoiler tags, so that sounds like a good compromise.  I think that duplicates the functionality of the spoiler tag, and I'm more concerned with that functionality than with the specific implementation. That requires a bit more individual work than simply deleting spoiler tags wholesale, but I think it's worth it. --Jere7my 07:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent. Well, I'm not sure how soon I'll get to it, but if no one else implements this idea, I will. --Melty girl 15:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler Tags

message: I realize that the film budget numbers come straight out of the IMDB box office information page, but I think there must be a mistake in the currency conversion: €180,000 is much closer to $250,000 than the listed $150,000. I suspect there is a typo on the IMDB page. Are there any other sources for this information? Mrwhizzard 04:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Carney says the budget was €130,000 in the Creative Screenwriting podcast, which shakes out to $182,000 currently. Robixsmash 20:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, what we have is the conversion at the time of production (see the cited source). I don't think we should keep updating it for subsequent change in value. --Melty girl 20:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency Conversion 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Is Steven Spielberg legendary? I was certain that he actually exists Mrscruffy 18:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The American Heritage Dictionary's second definition of legendary: "Extremely well known; famous or renowned." But anyway, why don't you change the word to something more neutral if you don't think it's appropriate? --Melty girl 19:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Legendary Spielberg

message: Many people have asked about the piano tune played by Marketa Irglova in the music shop, found around 12 minutes into the movie. The credits only list it as "Song Without Words by Mendelssohn," which is an incomplete description...
the tune is Felix Mendelssohn's Song Without Words Op. 30 no.6, more popularly knows as "Venezianisches Gondellied," or the Venetian Gondola Song
Cheers!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaundicedjonjon (talk • contribs) 18:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mendelssohn Performance 

message: Clearly one, or the other, SHOULD be in PLOT section. That sentence is clearly said in the movie. There is no misreprezentation here.
Source is clear. Translation is clear. One or the other should be clearly  there in the plot section.
71.99.125.232 (talk) 06:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Miluju Te" = " I Love You" 

message: Whoever is able to edit this, please edit an interwiki link to the german Wikipedia article on Once.
Thanks in advance :) 91.14.195.240 (talk) 10:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks for the heads up about the german article. Peace! SWik78 (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Please add german Interwiki link

message: I disagree strongly with the suggestion that the soundtrack section should be split out into its own section, for two reasons. First, this article does not merit splitting on length alone and it is unlikely to grow too much bigger. Second, this movie is a musical -- it's all about the music -- and therefore, the film and the music info should stay together. Split apart, you will have two very short articles that lack the full context. And it's likely that some information, such as the Academy Award, will end up being repeated in both places. I say keep it as one article, just as it is now. --Melty girl (talk) 05:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree: A musical film like this is mostly about the soundtrack. Joe Byrne -- Plé -- Contribs - :ga: - :fr: -  - 11:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't split the Soundtrack section out! 

message: As much as I debated to include the translation of the mentioned phrase into the plot, I have an issue with the phrase Miluju tebe being listed there. The reason I say that is that during the last time this was thouroughly debated, different editors came up with different theories on what was said. Besides Miluju tebe, editors also described the uttered phrase as Miluju te and Noor-ho-tebbe (which is what I remember hearing in the film). In the external link that I provided as proof that I love you is in fact what Girl said, Hansard speaks of Irglova ad-libbing the scene where she says I love you in Czech but then also goes to say But then we shot another version of the scene where she said something else. I wonder if that means that one version contains Miluju te or Miluju tebe and the other version contains Noor-ho-tebbe and that, maybe, European and North American DVDs each contain a different scene?
In that case, I would suggest de-listing Miluju tebe from the plot description for an english translation or to remove it altogether because the 2 phrases that might have been shot don't neccessarily have the same translation. SWik78 (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, this one never ends! OK... first, I don't believe there is a basis for believing that there are different versions of this film circulating. Just because multiple takes were shot doesn't mean anything -- Hansard says that the one used in the final film is "I love you." So I can't go with you on your original theory for multiple versions without a source saying that there are multiple versions of this very low budget film; your memory may be faulty, as memory tends to be. Second, a Czech source has now been provided in the Plot section to back up what she says in Czech -- have you looked at it? If it had not been provided, I would have removed the phrase, as I have many times, because before it was unsourced and required expertise to understand, with different editors thinking she said different things. But now, it is sourced. --Melty girl (talk) 19:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the Czech source and, yes, undeniably it says Miluju tebe. The memory thing may be very true as you suggest. I just wanted input on Hansard's she said something else and what it could mean in relation to people saying Noor-ho-tebbe was said on screen. I don't mean to go into any WP:OR by guessing what he meant when he said it, I just meant to suggest that you were right for fighting as hard as you did to keep it out of the plot section because I'm having second thoughts about supporting its inclusion. Anyways, I got the input I was looking for. Thanks. SWik78 (talk) 19:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Yes, I'm still not entirely comfortable with it being there, but felt that a source certainly improved things (though most English speakers can't read Czech) and by not translating it in the Plot section, we still go by what the film actually showed/said. --Melty girl (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsubtitled ''I love you'' 

message: The song "If You Want Me" is mislabeled. This isn't a Wikipedia error, but a soundtrack error. Hansard mentions this in the bonus features of the DVD. Irglova wrote and composed the song entirely, despite the movie's claim that it was composed by Hansard. I don't know if that counts as a qualified source, given that the soundtrack is also mislabeled. Hansard says something about how the movie miscredits both of them, then Irglova corrects him and says that it was the soundtrack. Not a big deal, but I thought I would bring it up. Skafkas (talk) 00:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's not mislabeled here in Wikipedia. It says, "Irglová and Hansard: "If You Want Me" (Irglová) – 3:48" -- that means it was performed by Irglová and Hansard and composed by Irglová. The source is AllMusic.com. In the movie, the Guy wrote the music and the Girl writes lyrics for it -- but that's fiction. The actual song was composed by Irglová, and that's how it's credited in the this article. --Melty girl (talk) 06:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that Hansard doesn't perform in the song. It's a solo by Irglova.Skafkas (talk) 01:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely not true. The album credits them both, with Marketa's name first, and that's how it's listed in this article. Hansard sings harmonies and plays on the track. It's only "The Hill" that Irglová performs solo on piano and voice (also properly credited here). --Melty girl 02:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I'm an idiot. Sorry I didn't come back sooner to say so. My original comment was in response to Hansard intentionally pointing out the mistaken composition credit on the album. But I understand your explanation of him getting credit as performer. I didn't really pay attention to the harmony he was singing, and didn't read your last post until today. Skafkas (talk) 04:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for coming back to finish the discussion. Cheers, Melty girl 04:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Authorship and compostion of "If You Want Me"

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "metacritic" :
** Metacritic entry for Once
** Once, Metacritic.com. Accessed 1 March 2008.
* "EW per-screen" :
** Entertainment Weekly: "'Once' a Hero" from Jun 14, 2007
** "'Once' a Hero", Entertainment Weekly, 14 June 2007. Accessed 21 April 2008.
* "rotten tomatoes" :
** Once (2007), RottenTomatoes.com. Accessed 1 March 2008.
** Once at Rotten Tomatoes
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thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: Haha anyone know where I could find the guitar chords for trying to pull myself away?
I have been searching for a long time.  xD  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.90.251 (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you want the exact tablature/fingering or just the letter chords? --Melty girl 01:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anything would work for me!!  :3  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.90.251 (talk) 01:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'm not expert enough a guitarist to produce the exact fingerings, but I can figure out the chords for you. You'll have to give me a little time though, because I'm a new mom, so I may not be able to do it immediately. Email me with your email address (go to my user page and click "email this user" in the toolbox on the left sidebar), and I'll send you the chords when I get a chance. --Melty girl 03:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Chords 

message: There are some flash-back scenes which appear to be filmed during summer ( judging by the vegetation ). Have a look at this youtube video. I wonder when they were filmed. It might be an interesting addition to the section on production. It looks like some of those shots could not be filmed during 17 days in January. 
Pnelnik (talk) 14:00, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming of summer scenes 

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