Talk:Zhangjiajie

message: I speak Chinese, and I've got the dictionary you cited.  To say that Zhang should be translated as "Stretch" is, well, a bit of a stretch, I think.  Regardless, that's a debate best taken to the Zhang surname page on Wikipedia.  The exact translation of Zhang isn't relevant to the Zhangjiajie article.  Best, Terence7 (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Although you will note that "stretch" is given as the third possible word (after "open" and "spread") in the first primary definition of that dictionary. Consequently, I think your edit summary of April 6 when you labelled it as being "silly" was at best unfortunate and over-stated, as it certainly is not silly. I also speak Chinese and have many close Chinese relatives. I can assure you that at the time I added the material, I discussed this matter with them and they agreed that, locally, "Stretch" was understood to be a good corresponding English surname, though I know that in wikipedia's terms this is weak evidence, excepting that it does state that local usage, etc can be taken into account. (By the way, the jokes you are making about the name are very old and endlessly repeated now - best find an alternative way of making fun.)  DDStretch  (talk) 08:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Zhang

message: This seems understandable in view of Zhangjiajie’s remote geographical position, its undeveloped land and river transportation, its mountainous terrain making cultivation difficult, and its overall backwardness. For these reasons, Zhangjiajie has been labeled “ the Land of the Savage Southern Minority” since the dawn of recorded history. Also, the people here have borne the names of “Wuling Rude People” and “Tujia Rude People” for generations.
This paragraph does not meet any known academic standard. overall backwardness is not an acceptable term because it's undefinable. If anything 'overall backwardness' would be a result of its lack of development NOT the cause of it, as is suggested by this paragraph. As it stands, the comment is simply offensive while providing absolutely no objective information.
This paragraph, in particular wuling rude people, and 'tujia rude people are uncited, they are unsubstantiated by sources, and I believe the claims will turn out to be unverifiable. What is reported by these comments is one sided hearsay, which I find offensive and racist, and more importantly they have no basis in fact.
My comment on helping to improve this article, delete this whole paragraph, or mark it as unsubstantiated, uncited or controversial.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.120.118.241 (talk) 04:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the last comments are unsubstantiated and, since the type of claim made, should be considered for deletion. In fact, most of what has been added since I last looked at this article have absolutely no reliable sourcing. I am now in Beijing, and do not have access to any book in English that describes the history of Zhangjiajie (though I have seen one in Zhangjiajie itself in the past). We need something either like that book, or a person who is bilingual enough to help us add sourced information, rather than what sometimes looks like unsourced toristic rambling. I may appropriate tags.  DDStretch  (talk) 06:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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message: I will try my best to get some better sources and better captions than we have already for this article. In particular, the caption for the women in ethnic minority traditional clothes was capable of being improved greatly: they are in Tujia National Dress: my wife wore clothes like this when we got married, and she is a Tujia person. Also, the "Traditional Boat" picture can be improved upon: the photo is of a boat used for tourist trips and the photo is taken from just above the landing (or leaving) stage for tourist to go on a boat trip around the lake. I know because I have been on this trip more than once with various other friends and relatives. The problem is, we need much better sources than this for most of the claims given in this article. I now live in Beijing, but I will see if I can get some better sources over the next few months (even if I must use relatives to translate text I cannot into English).  DDStretch  (talk) 13:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: To add to the article: what it borders. 76.189.141.37 (talk) 23:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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message: Stoneware term refer to a type of clay-based fire hardened material used mainly for pottery. (Merriam-Webster Definition of stoneware: a strong opaque ceramic ware that is high-fired, well vitrified, and nonporous)
In this article reference to “stoneware” found in Palaeolithic sites can not obviously refer to this kind of material since clay fired material (ceramic) development is more recent and belong to Neolithic period and stoneware itself is even more recent. I assume that the reference is actually to stone implements and tools, however I see no reference to original source and I can not check. Definitely I would suggest to revise the “stoneware” term to something different (stone tools?) to avoid misunderstanding and having people understand that “stoneware” was produced in Palaeolithic period. Thanks
RITUKALOS (talk) 17:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  USE OF STONEWARE TERM FOR STONE IMPLEMENTS AND TOOLS