Talk:Ehud Barak

message: : Ah, why was the picture changed from a decent picture to one where Barak is at a funeral ? Seems kinda insensitive, and he doesn't normally wear a yarmulke.
There was no quote, on that page stephen - just a excerpt from the quote - and it does not contradict the direct quote. Still, I admit, its not very flattering, if that what you meant to say...-Stevert
:The quote on the page says "behave like crocodiles", which is much less inflamatory. It may be necessary to know the original Hebrew to see if there's been a mistranslation. --Stephen C. Carlson
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I feel the quotes for Barak and other Israeli leaders are intetionally biased (see also Moshe Katsav and Ariel Sharon). This is especially discordant in Barak's case, since he's a leftist and often expressed with sympathy to the Palestinians. I will add the following quote which somewhat proves my point:
"If I were a Palestinian of the right age, I'd eventually join one of the terrorist organizations." --Yunis 21:26, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You can add as many quotes as you want, just don't remove any.Yuber(talk) 23:39, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Except, of course, if they come from dubious sources known to promote hoax quotations, or for many other good reasons. Jayjg (talk) 16:47, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

text: I hear he is friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Was he also involved in sacrificing babies? 105.243.21.107 (talk) 15:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: All 3 quotations are from SocialistViewpoint.  The first line of their statement (Who We Are) reads:
The Socialist Workers Organization was formed to advance the revolutionary Marxist political program in the United States.
In the absence of any independent sourcing for this material, I think it must be considered propaganda and should be removed.  Telliott 19:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  source of quotations 

message: "Barak" means "lightning" in Hebrew, not "thunder".  I edited it on the page, but the citation is incorrect as well.  I'm not sure how people want to handle that.
:The similarity between "Barak" (or more properly, "Baraq"), and Barack Obama's first name is coincidental, even though both come from Semitic (as in the Language Group) roots.  The Hebrew equivalent of Obama's first name is בָּרָוּך ("Barukh" = "Blessed").  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk • contribs) 03:52, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction 

message: The section "References in Popular Culture" mentions the scene in Munich where Barak is mentioned by name and participates in Operation Spring of Youth dressed as a woman, but only states that it was "derived from a real life experience." Yet earlier in the article it clearly states that he did do exactly that in 1973, so I don't understand why the reference is suddenly so loosely associated with him. I'm going to clean that reference up, but if anyone has a differing viewpoint please let me know. Patrolmanno9 (talk) 01:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References in popular culture 

message: I don't think Barak is top priority for WP Israel. Top priority is reserved for core topics, and this seems like an issue of recentism. If there's no objection, I'll lower the priority to High. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top priority? 

message: We had
: Barak also appears as a military advisor to a fictitious Israeli Prime Minister in the Frederick Forsyth novel The Devil's Alternative
but it is not he who appears, nor even he who is depicted, only a fictchar named "Barak". (He was surely somewhere else, probably with real people, at the times when the novel presumably depicts "his" fictchar as advising the fictional PM.) Fixing the statement is probably a job for someone with access to the novel, in order to get the details right: perhaps it is a character sharing Barak's full name and given a résumé consistent with his history up to that time, but how can i say? For now, i made a pretty safe guess, substituting
: A character apparently modeled on Barak ...
but IMO it is worth providing more detail about the degree of resemblance.
--Jerzy•t 17:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional character based on him 

message: A section in the Coastal Road Massacre was recently added again, alluding that Barak led the Israeli forces storming the buses with hostages in 1978. Lots of sources are quoted, none of them academic, though. I wonder how it can be if he was taking his courses at Stanford at exactly the same time.--Deinocheirus (talk) 20:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coastal road Massacre 

message: could we put this in the inofobox as well? its more current than the PM in there,(Lihaas (talk) 08:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Def Min 

message: I am reverting the edit by NPz1. Reasoning: BRD. Breach of 1/rr invalidates it. As discussed in an edit summary before, the slight change of wording in the quote skews it. This along with the background not being present BLP issues. Easy enough to get something similar in and after the block, I invite you to participate on the talk page. If someone else wants to slightly tinker with it that would be cool to. I am not which is unfortunate but not mandatory.Cptnono (talk) 02:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting 

message: Relevant enough for third paragraph? Polmandc (talk) 12:21, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  61st-greatest Israeli of all time 

message: What's the evidence for the following statement?" Barak's maternal grandparents, Elka and Shmuel Godin, died at the Treblinka extermination camp during the Holocaust.". There should be more then just a deportation list, if one makes such a statement. --41.151.123.235 (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evidence 

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message: Please somebody move File:Flickr - Israel Defense Forces - Prime Minister and Defense Minister at Weaponry Display.jpg below the "return to politics" section to avoid WP:Sandwich.--יניב הורון (talk) 22:19, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Given the visibility of this article and the potential for disagreements implicating WP:ARBPIA, a separate discussion will be opened below. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:08, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2018 

message: As pointed out by the two commenters above in the edit request, the current placement of images in the sections Political career through Return to Politics is less than optimal. Specific issues:
# The image of Barak in uniform with the Legion of Merit in 1993 (:File:Ehud Barak with Legion of Merit cropped.jpg) is anchored in the Military service section but pushed quite far downwards by the extensive infobox to look like it illustrates the "Prime Minister of Israel" section.
# The image of Barak, Clinton, and Arafat (:File:Arafat&Clinton&Barak.jpg) and the image of Barak and Netanyahu (:File:Flickr - Israel Defense Forces - Prime Minister and Defense Minister at Weaponry Display.jpg) are both left-justified, creating a MOS:SANDWICHING problem.
# The of Barak at the Pentagon (:File:Barak pentagon 1999.jpg)) is from 1999 at the time of his premiership but is also displaced to apparently illustrate the Resignation section.
# These issues combine to present the images out of chronological order, in something like 1999-1993-2011-1999-2007 order.  This is, at the very least, questionable under MOS:PERTINENCE.
To address these concerns, I suggest removing the first image, move the Barak/Clinton/Arafat image to the "Prime Minister of Israel" section and right-justifying it, and moving the Barak/Netanyahu image to the "Return to politics" seciton and also right-justifying it.  This would address all the concerns above. This would result in the following:
==Political career==
On 7 July 1995, Barak was appointed Minister of Internal Affairs by Yitzhak Rabin. When Shimon Peres formed a new government following Rabin's assassination in November 1995, Barak was made Minister of Foreign Affairs (1995–96). He was elected to the Knesset on the Labor Party list in 1996, and served as a member of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. Following internal elections after Peres' defeat in the election for Prime Minister in 1996, Barak became the leader of the Labor Party.
===Prime Minister of Israel===
 
In the 1999 Prime Ministerial election, Barak beat Benjamin Netanyahu by a wide margin. However, he sparked controversy by deciding to form a coalition with the ultra-Orthodox party Shas, who had won an unprecedented 17 seats in the 120-seat Knesset. Shas grudgingly agreed to Barak's terms that they eject their leader Aryeh Deri, a convicted felon, and enact reform to "clean up" in-party corruption. Consequentially, the left wing Meretz party quit the coalition after they failed to agree on the powers to be given to a Shas deputy minister in the Ministry of Education.
In 1999 Barak gave a campaign promise to end Israel's 22-year-long occupation of Southern Lebanon within a year. On 24 May 2000 Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon. On 7 October, three Israeli soldiers were killed in a border raid by Hezbollah and their bodies were subsequently captured. The bodies of these soldiers, along with the living Elhanan Tenenbaum, were eventually exchanged for Lebanese captives in 2004.
The Barak government resumed peace negotiations with the PLO, stating that "Every attempt [by the State of Israel] to keep hold of this area [the West Bank and Gaza] as one political entity leads, necessarily, to either a nondemocratic or a non-Jewish state. Because if the Palestinians vote, then it is a binational state, and if they don't vote it is an apartheid state." As part of these negotiations, Barak took part in the Camp David 2000 Summit which was meant finally to resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict but failed. Barak also allowed Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami to attend the Taba Summit with the leadership of the Palestinian Authority, after his government had fallen.
===Domestic issues===
On 22 August 1999, Barak appointed the Tal committee which dealt with the controversial issue of ultra-Orthodox Jews' exemption from military service.
Following the failure of the Camp David summit with Arafat and Bill Clinton in the summer of 2000, when the original 7 years mandate of the PNA expired, and just after Israel pulled out its last troops out of southern Lebanon in May 2000, the weeks-long Riots in October 2000 led to the killing of twelve Israeli Arabs and one Palestinian by Israel Police and one Jewish civilian by Israeli Arabs.
===Resignation===
In 2001, Barak called a special election for Prime Minister. In the contest, he was defeated by Likud leader Ariel Sharon, and subsequently resigned as Labor leader and from the Knesset. He left Israel to work as a senior advisor with United States-based Electronic Data Systems. He also partnered with a private equity company focused on "security-related" work.
===Return to politics===
In 2005, Barak announced his return to Israeli politics, and ran for leadership of the Labor Party in November. However, in light of his weak poll showings, Barak dropped out of the race early and declared his support for veteran statesman Shimon Peres. Following his failed attempt to maintain leadership of the Labor party, Barak became a partner of the investment company SCP Private Equity Partners, Pennsylvania. He also established a company "Ehud Barak Limited" which is thought to have made over NIS 30 million.
Opinions are appreciated on this change. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a good solution, better than the one I proposed. Pinging the original requester  for their feedback. Iffy★Chat -- 14:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the lack of objection so far constitutes silent consensus in favor of the changes.  I will implement these image adjustments but if anyone requests, I will gladly self-revert in favor of more discussion.  Thank you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:06, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:IUP|Image use in this article]] 

message: Under External links, Please remove the Official site (in hebrew) as it is not the official site and has no affiliation to Ehud Barak.
This so called "Official site" was also added in most other languages besides Hebrew. Blue2White (talk) 09:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  My Hebrew is rather rusty, but looking at the site, it looks pretty likely that you are correct. Thank you! Dolotta (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 August 2018 

message: Please change http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/bar0int-1 to https://www.achievement.org/achiever/ehud-barak/#interview PippaDiggs (talk) 20:15, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done MrClog (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 April 2019 

message: Please change
to
 PippaDiggs (talk) 20:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done MrClog (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 April 2019 

message: This section should be added to Barak's page. It is mentioned repeatedly on JE's page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.210.28.107 (talk) 12:26, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This edit does not reflect my own views - I made this edit for User:91.114.251.169 because their edit was blocked by an edit filter. See Special:Permalink/911174080#91.114.251.169 --DannyS712 (talk) 01:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barak & J. E. 

message: He's included in the wartime cross-dressers category but there's no mention of that in the article. Could someone please add a source for that? Swil999 (talk) 14:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wartime cross-dresser 

message: The Jewish Book Council awarded Ehud Barak the National Jewish Book Award as described below. Is it significant enough to be added to the article?
* 2018: National Jewish Book Award in the category biography, autobiography and memoir for My Country, My Life: Fighting for Israel, Searching for Peace
Lemieuxn (talk) 05:08, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literary awards to be added? 

message: Hello I am inserting the Current related template because there were reports that the article may be affected by the Wikipedia Article Ghislaine Maxwell due to a recent mentioning of the Epstein Sex trafficking Scandal Personisgaming (talk) 00:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insert 

message: Please include the following information (page seems to be protected for edits):
https://www.timesofisrael.com/woman-says-epstein-forced-her-to-have-sex-with-former-pm-barak/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7250009/Netanyahu-challenger-Ehud-Barak-hides-face-enters-entering-Jeffrey-Epsteins-mansion.html
--CarlPhilippTrump.me (talk) 20:40, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long friendship with child-rapist and child-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and accusation of rape. 

message: Kinda amazed his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is not including as with all the other accused.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nice Stories (talk • contribs) 19:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Jeffery Epstein

message: He is now 79, not 78. Jhunter92 (talk) 05:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: not sure where you want this edited, because the only "78" I can find is in the "1978" located in the last sentence of the first section? The information box lists him as "79". Perhaps if you were to refresh the page in your browser? P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 16:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, it was fixed. All set now!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhunter92 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  awesome, and thank you for your input! (see also WP:SIG) P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 22:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 February 2021 

message: Add :Category:Leaders of the Opposition (Israel). Quacelinz3 (talk) 20:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Melmann 17:15, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2021 

message: Under the subsection "military career", there is a typo: it mentions "Barack" instead of "Barak" in the second paragraph Baswerkhoven (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo to be corrected 

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message: In the Political life section; I see no mention of Ehud Barak's recent controversial statements telling IDF soldiers that it was their duty to refuse to show up. And no mention of the subsuquent Likud lawsuit against him. Can this be added? InLizWeTruss (talk) 01:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ehud Baraks recent call for violence 

message: At one point, the article quotes a statement by Barak that ends "it is an apartheid state".  Please remove the apartheid link and replace it with <nowiki>apartheid state.  This doesn't change the wording, and obviously he was saying that Israel would be the subject of the Israel and apartheid article under those conditions. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated it to apartheid state as the most direct linked term (and one that does not involve any hint of being an Easter Egg link). This seems like the most appropriate option in the context. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:58, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 September 2023 

message: Ehud Barak has been very active in organising and directing public political activities against Israeli governments since 2019, coming to a head in 2023. He has publicly spoken about these issues many times and this is certainly a significant part of his (still ongoing) political career.
Why is there no mention of this ? דןברקת (talk) 06:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political activity in recent years