Talk:M21 Sniper Weapon System

message: Is the discussion on Blackhawk Down necessary?  It's interesting but really has very little to do with the subject of the article.  Perhaps it should be moved to the article on Blackhawk Down instead?
:I think the weapon's influence on popular culture is fair game. Twinxor 22:40, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Blackhawk Down

message: The page precise 2 differents years when the designation XM21 became M21 : 1971 (in the text) and 1975 (below photo) ; what is true ? (1975 according globalsecurity.org) Rob1bureau 17:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *FWIW: Peter Senich's "The Long Range War" gives the transition date for the designation as 1972.  But in the same paragraph, he notes that it was classified as 'Standard B' in December 1971.  Blake Steven's "U.S. Rifle M14" also gives the date as 1972. D.E. Watters 19:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Designation change from XM21 to M21 

message: Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Springfield M21;
Can anyone tell me how this gun relates to the Springfield M21? Is it the same gun, or only very similar? Is "Springfield M21" a common misnomer for this M21 or is it something distinct? - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 18:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Springfield Inc. makes M21 and M25 rifles which are loosely based upon their military counterparts of the same designation.  Much like the way that their name implies a relationship the former US military armory, the commercial firm Springfield Armory capitalizes on the implication that their products are the same as those used by the military.  FWIW: The article should probably redirect here.  --D.E. Watters 19:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. That flies with me, it'll fly better with others if there is some way to mention this in this article. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 23:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Springfield M21 ? 

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message: The bulk of this article is copied and pasted from referenced sources and simply written as a quote. While it seems as though this material is public domain as it's the work of the U.S. military, it needs to be re-written in Wikipedia's voice. Also: is the rifle still in use? WP Ludicer (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As I recall, Fair Use rules do not apply when abused such as simply quoting entire paragraphs (such as the first paragraph in the main body) so it really should be rewritten. 142.120.125.127 (talk) 03:17, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Claiming fair use would be unnecessary—as I said, the material comes from works of the United States federal government, which are, with few exceptions, in the public domain (at least in the United States). The quoted sections are from obsolete field manuals and training circulars produced by the U.S. military and made available for public distribution. It's not a copyvio; it's just sloppy writing. WP Ludicer (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy and paste material 

message: Hello why is there nevery where the information if it is a semi-automatic sniper rifle such as the Barret M82A1 or the Dragunow? (89.166.170.201 (talk) 19:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's sort of there (check the categories at the bottom -- it's in the 7.62×51mm NATO semi-automatic rifles category) and the article notes that it's based on a national match M14 and links to that article; on the M14 page, it does point out that the national match M14's are semi-automatic only. But it's not particularly missing anything by not calling that out; in general very few dedicated sniper rifles are fully automatic. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 19:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-Automatic