Talk:Ecocities

message: This article isn't neutral.
This has very little to do with the Garden City movement of the early Twentieth Century (which redirects here)--129.234.4.10 20:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems to be back on its own: Garden city movement.  But the ecocities article needs serious revision. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 00:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think this article should be merged with Ecopolis. What do you think?
:: Seems more appropriate to merge it with Arcology.  That term may be more widely used (Google books: ecocity 204 hits, arcology 544 hits) but more importantly it's more distinguishing; in American English the prefix "eco-" gets prepended to everything, all the time, by marketing and PR people who want to capitalize on any aspect of the green / Earth-friendly movement, so "ecocity" could just as easily be construed to mean a city with a comprehensive recycling program or well-tended public parks as it could "maximally self-contained, minimal environmental impact" city as is the case here.  Also, the WP arcology entry has good material, a good historical perspective, and is well-interwingled.  --24.62.180.12 (talk) 10:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: Because the cities tend to resist new development, such as more housing units, they contribute to the high costs of living in the cities. As a result, there is an increasing disparity in income between the rich and the poor in the city, while middle-class people tend to live in the suburbs. As a result, many of the recent political campaigns have focused on "urban elitism," the idea that the city is the domain of the rich, the bohemians, and those who like to talk down to the middle-class.
This conveys the idea that the suburbs are home to "real America," gun-toting, race-car loving, conservative, average Joes, while the cities are home to elites who are liberal in terms of government policies and progressivism. Moreover, city-living people are considered to enjoy composting, recycling, and taking public transportation — activities portrayed as part of the fringe of mainstream society.
The reason for the lack of housing development is due to the neighborhoods that comprise the city. They tend to have strong community that are unwilling to allow developers to disperse them by tearing down the old housing and building new ones. [citation needed]
This section is pure nNPOV and should be heavily re-worded if not deleted.  On top of that, it's utter gibberish. FrFintonStack 03:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics of Urban Elitism

message: This section, aside from being utter nonsense, lacks any relevence whatsoever to the article. If for some reason it seems necessary to include this information, perhaps a link to the appropriate page would be suitable.
129.115.38.21 18:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics of Urban Elitism

message: ===Present Eco-cities===
* Växjö, Sweden Växjö, a eco-city in Sweden
===Planned Eco-cities===
The government of China has given the order to create approximately five eco-cities in China.
One of these is in Guangdon, near the Yangtse-river, another is in Dongtan.
The English company Arup has been given the order to construct these.
Most of the eco-cities are already designed, but still some issues need to be worked out.
This article still needs to be edited (the German eco-cities need to be added and so on, yet it already has info that should remain)
Why do I get the sinking feeling that this article was written by Chinese spies?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.31.43 (talk) 21:04, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Present and planned eco-cities around the world

message: The government of China has given the order to create approximately five eco-cities in China.
One of these is in Guangdon, near the Yangtse-river, another is in Dongtan.
The English company Arup has been given the order to construct these.
Most of the eco-cities are already designed, but still some issues need to be worked out.
This article still needs to be edited (the German eco-cities need to be added and so on, yet it already has info that should remain)
Why do I get the sinking feeling that this article was written by Chinese spies?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.31.43 (talk) 21:04, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Planned Eco-cities