Talk:Main Page/Archive 100

message: Honk if you are tired of seeing the blurb about Paul Wolfowitz on the In the news section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaff (talk • contribs) 
:Honk if you're tired of people complaining about ITN instead of making suggestions for it. —Cuiviénen 22:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Thank you for pointing me in the direction to request another candidate...—Gaff ταλκ 17:16, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Beep! ffm ✎talk 01:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Honk --mav 01:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yaahh-ha-ha-ha-hooey!! ShadowHalo 02:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: 2007 Ankara bombing and Captured US soldiers in May 2007 have been left unattended on WP:ITN/C for days. Honk if you're tired of admins (e.g. these 4 above) complaining about people complaining about ITN instead of using suggestions posted at WP:ITN/C. --74.14.19.205 13:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the articles still doesn't/barely meets ITN update level. The other clearly doesn't and is also in proseline. Rather then honking at admins, why don't you take the time to work one of the articles up to ITN standard? (I would suggest Ankara since I'm not sure the US soldier body thing is likely to merit sufficient update or for that matter international interest for ITN. It may have met both when the original story was revealed but that's too old now. Basically it missed the boat) Admins are just doing their job and only putting articles on ITN that qualify. It's not their fault editors are too busy honking and not doing any work on the articles which they want in ITN Nil Einne 15:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Honk if you appreciate timely responses and constructive suggestions from admins at WP:ITN/C. --74.13.128.98 04:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ultimately the fact remains that neither of these articles was up to the standard required so there was no loss. If editors don't bother to work on articles once they think they are up to ITN standard then IMHO it's their loss and I don't feel sorry for them if they aren't told early on that in fact the article is not ITN standard. If these articles had been up to ITN standard but hadn't been put on to ITN for several days, then perhaps there is an issue. But if the article is not up to ITN standard (or doesn't meet the international interest component) then IMHO while unfortunate, there's no net loss to wikipedia. Remember ITN is just to highlight articles. If an editor comes here with the goal to get articles on ITN then perhaps it's best if they learn early on that wikipedia is not wikinews and ITN is just to highlight articles not to have all the latest news. N.B. Remember admins only put articles on ITN. Non admins such as me and you are welcome to familiarise themselves with the criteria and comment on whether an article meets the criteria in their opinion Nil Einne 16:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news 

message: There is a spelling error on the Did You Know quote for Lucretia Maria Davidson: it should be 'lengths' not 'length'. Can someone fix this? Algabal 08:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. --Heron 10:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Next time, report errors at #Main page error reports above. --74.14.19.79 13:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 

message: Why dont the IRC:s comply with Macintosh or is this problem occurring with my comp. only?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.250.110.93 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sorry, I cannot understand your question. If you are having an issue with Internet Relay Chat, then please ask on a support forum. If you are having issues with the wikipedia irc channel or online client, please post your question on the talk page of that project page. This is for talking about the main page of the wikipedia. ffm ✎talk 15:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IRC:s 

message: Is it just me, or are other people having a hard time on Bs01? It dosen't accept my password
--Melman the cat 11:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so you know, this page is for the discussion of the wikipedia's Main Page, not just anything. Please ask your question elsewere. ffm ✎talk 15:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bs01 

message: Can i use some pictures from wikimedia commons for my small webside about plants and animals?
thank you--Nikolaosp 11:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Images on commons are basically free by the GFDL. "The purpose of this License is to make a manual, textbook, or other functional and useful document "free" in the sense of freedom: to assure everyone the effective freedom to copy and redistribute it, with or without modifying it, either commercially or noncommercially." The full license is at WP:GFDL. --Wafulz 13:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Not all images at the Commons are licensed under the GFDL. Make sure that your use of these images is compliant with the licenses. You don't need to do anything to use a public domain image, but for example, anything licensed under  should be included with attribution of the author and some recognition that the image is licensed under the CC Attribution 2.0 license. ShadowHalo 00:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note however that as all commons images should be freely licensed allowing re-use, commercial or non-commercial you should be able to use them, you just have to obey the license. For a website some of the requirements for e.g. GFDL (including full license) which may be a technical hinderance to re-use in some instances of printed material are unlikely to be a problem. P.S. Forgot to mention there is one exception you should know of on the commons. We currently allow pictures e.g. screenshots on the commons which are otherwise freely licensed but with one of more of the wikimedia logos. As the wikimedia logos are not freely licensed, these images are similarly not freely licensed. This is unlikely to be an issue for plants and animals though) Nil Einne 03:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PICTURES 

message: ...is of a bird of prey yet the DYK fact refers explicitly to a waterbird. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I too added the comment on the error report page. Surprised that there has not been a response yet for the main page ! Shyamal 06:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to a bird feather since I am not sure of these things. But feel free to get a more appropriate pic. Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 06:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a good fix. Thanks. Shyamal 07:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The current DYK picture... 

message: What is the point of the word "religious" in the DYK item on the Discovery Institute's PR campaigns? Are they aiming their message primarily at churches? Do they appeal to any scripture or other religious authority in their statements? The article being cited says nothing about any such religious component to the PR, so what is the justification for calling it "religious public relations"? Even if you think ID is religious at its core, and that anything DI does is thus ipso facto religious, the word "religious" is still inappropriate here as it would be redundant. Though DI's activities are highly problematic in my opinion, NPOV should dictate that we avoid slapping labels on it that it rejects. The word should be removed per NPOV. --Tisco 14:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While they are undoubtedly a religion based organisation, I agree that the word doesn't sit right in that place. (Meanwhile "make a positive vision of the future practical." how is that a clear mission statement? *boggles* Sorry I've been writing vision documentation today...) --Monotonehell 15:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is more likely to be fixed quickly if put in WP:ERRORS. I have now deleted the offending adjective. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Religious" Public Relations? 

message: What would it take to get this on the main page? For those who don't know what I am talking about, I would like to see something where when the main page loads, if you start typing, it automatically goes into the search box... Anyone? 72.69.127.101 15:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But then you wouldn't be able to scroll down to the rest of the page. That's obviously not a problem at Google.com, but with a page this long users expect to be able to scroll down. --Maxamegalon2000 16:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yup, this has been proposed before, and it was not done due to the scrolling problem. --- RockMFR 16:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point... I never really pay too much attention to the main page (guess I should), so I never considered that... Nevermind then. :) 72.69.127.101 17:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For those who are thinking of testing it like me, note you can scroll with the mouse wheel but not the keyboard Nil Einne 03:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cna someone device a shortcut key for this and place after the text "search"? Like what we do with "My watchlist" and "My contributions"? --Howard the Duck 14:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Please read this. ffm ✎talk 15:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, that is one of the arguments that has been put forward before. Again, read this. ffm ✎talk 13:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto Focus on Search Text Box? 

message: A red background on the Simeon I seal image, the red Golden Gate Bridge, a red keffiyeh, and a red flag on the Cutty Sark - only one image escapes the hue. What are we pushing today? Communism? The Labour party? The Red Sox? violet/riga (t) 09:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the colour red. --Heron 09:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote that we're promoting Wales since red is the national color. ShadowHalo 10:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's black and white and red all over? --3M163//Complete Geek 12:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An embarrassed zebra. Unfortunately, the newspaper punchline depends on homophony and does not work in print. :-) Nricardo 15:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You gotta be kidding! --Smokizzy Review Me! (Please!) 16:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An embarresed zebra? I was always told it was a nun who was shot... to each man his own. Mattbash 00:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Cutty Sark, Black Swan Project - what's the third? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 01:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red bias 

message: Surely if the F.A. cup is featured then the champions league should be too as it is a far bigger tournament User talk:Plokt, 21:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because the FA Cup has every team in England entered into it, at varying stages, automatically. From Prescot Cables and Croydon Athletic to Manchester United and Chelsea. Whereas the Champions league is just that - a league made up of the highest-finishing teams from the European top divisions. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 02:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Champions league 

message: First thing on my mind today was to research the meaning of "nirvana" in a spiritual sense. I turned to Wiki and found the page started with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana in the featured article. Is this a sign as being at the crossroad to rock music and the search for "nirvana"? Chailai 11:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you look at Nirvana not Nirvana (band). Cheers Nil Einne 12:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He knows; it's just serendipitous that Nirvana was on the main page. Zeality 21:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: If by Nirvana you mean the actual Buddhist concept (as opposed to a general concept of happiness), I suggest you talk to some Buddhists to begin you search Nil Einne 11:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Taken to user talk page Nil Einne 17:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NIRVANA 

message: there is a very wrong information in the first page, actually Bashar al asad is not the only cadidate because they system of electing presidents is not dependant on more than one cadidate.
there is the so called (poll on choosing the president) where they people agree on the president or not .. and if the poll is less 50% , a new presidential candidate is chosen by the assembly
:The questionable phrase was removed during the last edit to "In the news". Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  syria and bashar 

message: Concerning Dario Franchitti's reference to being a Scot, can I please request that it is changed to British or Brit as per the dicussion on WikiProject Motorsport. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 08:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franchitti's Nationality 

message: The Malaysian Federal Court rejects an appeal by Christian convert Lina Joy to have the word "Islam" removed from her identity card.
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is this really "news" or just an attack on islam? why is this singled out and put on the frontpage? have you heard this make a frontpage story in any other news media?
wikipedia didn't have any new news to put on frontpage so they decided to publish one attacking islam.
this is disgusting, be fair and don't single out particular religion
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Oh, grow up. You want different news, you write different news and submit it to ITN. As long as that isn't factually inaccurate there is no reason for them to suppress the information just to satisfy the griping whims of little children who cry when they are accused of being bad. 70.17.192.65 17:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually items on ITN need to meet several criteria, not just be factually accurate. However this discussion should take place in the ITN discussion page, not here Nil Einne 19:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: How is that attacking Islam? If the story itself is an attack on anything, it's an attack on the Malaysian Federal Court (and I wouldn't really call it an attack). -- tariqabjotu 00:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia = the new MEMRI 

message: 'nuff said.c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc1864Cuba Libre! 08:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Type . ffm ✎talk 12:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it would be ,  would transclude Template:Main Page. Prodego talk 01:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do you get the Main Page on a Userpage? 

message: Does anyone think there should be a word of the day? If there was one i can't remember it being there. Or maybe someones come up with this idea before. Just an idea..Wiki.user 18:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This being an encyclopedia, not a dictionary, it would be somewhat out of place. Perhaps you were thinking of here? – Gurch 18:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Words 

message: It would be nice if there'd be a clock table on the main page to display diffirent timezones around the world. like London Copenhagen Helsinki Moscow etc. Peace keeper II 07:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Creating something like the world clock and linking to it from the main page sounds worthwhile. El_C 21:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it could be used to file that white space between the Welcome and the subject links. Mbisanz 05:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  A big issue is caching - what happens when that clock is inaccurate? How would caching affect such a clock for logged-out users? Ral315 » 06:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the logging in/out would be an issue, since the page content doesn't to my knowledge change based on in/out status. Caching is a problem to some degree, one answer would be an applet of some sort that kept the time constantly moving (like this http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java), but that could burden the page with extra code, another idea might be an automatic re-loader on the main page (like this http://drudgereport.com/). Or we could treat it like this talk page and just give readers a purge link.Mbisanz 06:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text:  What white space? We don't all have large windows or displays. Bazza 12:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Probably the white space between "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." and the links to the portals. We don't need large windows or displays to get that. BTW, I like this white space. It makes "Welcome to Wikipedia..." stand out. --74.14.17.161 12:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a pretty high res monitor, but I rarely browse full screen. Especially not reference sites like Wikipedia. I usually wind up with something like this:  Also, I've got a tablet PC that I often browse the web on that's 768x1024, which isn't much bigger than that screenshot. 69.95.50.15 13:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why not browse full screen? --74.14.17.161 13:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text:  Try Wikipedia:Main Page alternative (PDA version) on your Tablet PC. Maybe easier to read? --74.14.17.161 13:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Uh, well, for a couple of reasons. One is that since I'm often using wikipedia as a reference I'm probably doing something in one of the other gazillion windows I have open and I like looking back and forth. (Sure, I'm a little disorganized.) The other main reason is more aesthetic; with my large widescreen monitor, lines of text get very long. I prefer text in vertical columns. Anyway, my point is just that right now Wikipedia is very forgiving of the shape and size of your browser window, and that's a quality I value. Just my two cents. 69.95.50.15 13:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whoops, I hadn't thought about the sizing issue. Looking at your "no_whitespace image, I see there is empty space under the accounting sign in/create account text where a time-zone selector drop-down. Would everyone have that space "free" regardless of window size?Mbisanz 23:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: What time zone would the clock show? S. Randall 13:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Either all zones, a zone chooser, or UTC, probably. ffm ✎talk 15:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: There's not enough room to show all time zones, there's no point in showing just the user's local time as most computer desktops have a clock showing already. What's left? UTC? Is there any point in having that on the Main Page? It's important here in talk, and it's at the top of this page. I don't see it adding any value on the main page. --Monotonehell 01:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I'm pretty sure it's (UTC on the main page) been proposed before and I would argue it's more important there then here. Since the main page works on UTC, it would help people to understand why OTD is June 1st if it's no longer June 1st for them anymore or if it's not June 1st yet. It will also help people understand when TFA & TFP are going to change Nil Einne 11:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Wow, you have a huge sig! It stands for Coordinated Universal Time. ffm ✎talk 18:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the compliment. Powerfulmind pleasetalktome! lookatallofmyedits! 20:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that was so much a compliment... perhaps read Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing_your_signature PseudoEdit (yak) (track) 21:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about you, but it struck me as a compliment. Powerfulmind pleasetalktome! lookatallofmyedits! 22:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We all want nice signatures but that thing measures the odd 9 lines. Particularly I would refer to this, which places the general guideline at about 2 or 3 lines. Long signatures can make all sorts of problems. I would consider trimming it down some. DoomsDay349 22:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clocks 

message: Why do I see stub like articles most of the times when I open a 'Random article'? It's impossible to get a featured article!! 198.62.10.11 08:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, less than one in a thousand articles are featured. ShadowHalo 09:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want a random featured article, go to Wikipedia:Featured content - it selects one of each type of featured content automatically. Laïka 12:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Why? We are hoping someone like you may help expand the stubs. Keep clicking. You'll find something you can edit soon. --74.14.17.161 13:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: If you want featured articles, edit them!Tourskin 19:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: File a feature request. ffm ✎talk 18:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you talking to me or someone else? Powerfulmind pleasetalktome! lookatallofmyedits! 20:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: He also put that on my talk page. :) Powerfulmind pleasetalktome! lookatallofmyedits! 20:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random Articles 

message: I notice that sometimes we've been cropping things a little close on the MainPage thumbnails. Especially if someone isn't terribly recognizable or having a remarkable expression on their face, I think we would be better served by medium shots which can show some character in the position of the body, and especially for historical figures, in the clothing.--Pharos 04:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno about historical figures but isn't the point of pictures especially for ITN to show what someone looks like? So that people who've seen them before would recognise them and people who haven't may get an idea of what they look like and may recognise them in the future. A picture which doesn't show what someone looks like strikes me as a filler which I know at least one editor is strongly opposed to. Given our requirements, it's not uncommon that the photos aren't particularly good when showing a closeup of the face but still, I think it's better then nothing most of the time.Also, I would wonder whether you can really say someone isn't recognisable. Most people are probably recognisable if you've seen them enough. Even identical twins can often be differentiated by people who've seen them enough. Nil Einne 17:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My point is that, especially for images of historical personages, a close-up doesn't do them justice, not in the context of the MainPage anyway. A close-up of the face of an obscure 18th century Swedish general will not look very interesting, but a medium shot that shows part of his uniform will give more of a flavor to his historical context. In short, I think that that facial recognizability as individuals (especially for fairly obscure persons, who very few people could recognize at a glance anyway), should be balanced against recognizability as 'types', which has more visual flair.--Pharos 20:31, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For historical figures perhaps. But for modern people, I find the idea of deciding recognisability highly questionable and also dispute that it is fair to put them into 'types'. I mean I know we've had comments here from people who think an African in somewhat traditional costume looks like an Afghani but I don't think it's something we should be encouraging. Nil Einne 13:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many close-ups? 

message: Sorry to start this again, but I am really fed up of seeing Bertie Ahern on the ITN section for last 3-4 days. Can't we change the ITN pictures more often? Can't we have pictures related to each of the news item every day? 59.178.67.134 13:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, please help us and suggest a new picture that has a suitable licence (i.e. a free content licence) to replace it with. If such a picture could be found, it would have been changed already. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The image on Alan Johnston is used under fair use, so that's not an option. Frankly, at this point I'd just start hoping the next item added has a free image available.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's just pulling a Nancy Pelosi. The Placebo Effect 18:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? ffm ✎talk 18:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming the comment was in reference to the period of time a little while back when the ITN image remained a shot of Nancy Pelosi for quite a while and elicited many complaints.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to disappoint you Placebo and ors, but your mention is the first i've heard of any issues regarding Pelosi so a little AGF wouldn't be out of the question on my original comments. Heck, it's first time ever i've seen fit to comment on main page talk. Thewinchester (talk) 18:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Err...I'm pretty sure he meant Bertie Ahern was "pulling a Nancy Pelosi" by remaining on the page for ages, not that you were.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please 'flip' Bertie Bswee 19:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: See this The Placebo Effect 22:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Pls put in a caption, as done on TFA now, to explain what is shown in the ITN pic. --74.13.124.137 04:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The caption has been removed from TFA.  Pity. I thought that was a good idea and should be implemented to the other pics on the main page. --74.13.129.170 19:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITN Pics 

message: The Irish Election article is the last item on the In the News list, so might it not be time to flip it out and replace it with something else? Possibly the Alan Johnston photo? Cheers, Thewinchester (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The image on Alan Johnston is used under fair use, so that's not an option. Frankly, at this point I'd just start hoping the next item added has a free image available.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's just pulling a Nancy Pelosi. The Placebo Effect 18:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? ffm ✎talk 18:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming the comment was in reference to the period of time a little while back when the ITN image remained a shot of Nancy Pelosi for quite a while and elicited many complaints.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to disappoint you Placebo and ors, but your mention is the first i've heard of any issues regarding Pelosi so a little AGF wouldn't be out of the question on my original comments. Heck, it's first time ever i've seen fit to comment on main page talk. Thewinchester (talk) 18:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Err...I'm pretty sure he meant Bertie Ahern was "pulling a Nancy Pelosi" by remaining on the page for ages, not that you were.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please 'flip' Bertie Bswee 19:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: See this The Placebo Effect 22:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Pls put in a caption, as done on TFA now, to explain what is shown in the ITN pic. --74.13.124.137 04:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The caption has been removed from TFA.  Pity. I thought that was a good idea and should be implemented to the other pics on the main page. --74.13.129.170 19:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to flip the Bertie Ahern pic? 

message: ::I was going to but the page hasn't been edited at all today. Just wanted to make sure, instead of putting it there, and having someone respond when it's already not in the news anymore. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 19:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Before you waste time posting on WP:ITN/C right now, just so you know, there has not been a seperate, well-written article here on Wikipedia that I am aware of about this incident, and John F. Kennedy International Airport only has one sentence about it. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps someone should start 2007 John F. Kennedy International Airport attack plot, a seperate, well-written article here on Wikipedia about this incident, as done with 2007 Fort Dix attack plot last month. --74.13.124.137 04:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  JFK planned bombing 

message: No new articles between 11.37 and 12.52 (UTC) today. Server problems? Camptown 13:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: see here--Melburnian 13:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crash? 

message: Is it my computer or is something making edits to an article that much more of a pain?Tourskin 15:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please file a bug report. ffm ✎talk 18:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Select "Remember me" when you log in, and make sure your browser has cookies enabled – Gurch 12:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loss of session data 

message: Surely the train crash today should make the in the news, im all the other side of the world in Ireland so perhaps some-one a bit closer could write it up.plokt 16:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:ITN/C & Wikinews. --74.14.19.102 16:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria train crash 

message: That's tomorrow, June 6th. Will wikipedia mention it on its main page?
70.59.74.162 22:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. To American-centric, Not a recongnized holiday, Run by fans, and not in the Slayer  article. And, where would it go? WP:OTD? ffm ✎talk 00:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to ask WTF National Slayer Day is but from the sound of things I'm glad not to know. Anyway Slayer is a FA which has not yet been TFA and a request was put in to feature it today but it was not featured for whatever reason (perhaps we've had too many pop culture stuff of late). You could wait until next year and ask for it again. In any case, we still won't mention National Slayer Day because it doesn't appear to be prominent enough that it should be mentioned in the Slayer summary Nil Einne 05:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Slayer Day 

message: ITN has too much old news and needs pruning. DYK has too many new items and wants more space. Let's put them both on the right side. ITN can stay short and leave lots of space for DYK. This way, we'll have less problem balancing the two sides on the main page. OTD used to be beneath TFA, anyways. --74.13.129.83 04:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DYK & ITN 

message: Would it be possible to put a featured portal of the month on the main page? It wouldn't have to contain any text from the portal...just a link in the upper right where the main portals are listed would suffice. I think the formatting could work, and it would be pretty unobtrusive, yet simultaneously a good motivator for bringing portals up to featured status. 67.86.86.217 04:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Main Page/Archive 98#Portals on the mainpage. --74.13.129.83 04:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Portal 

message: you have got a wide variety of info but you need to include more on offoce software and other programs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.7.25.106 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 7 June 2007
:Hi, generally you should make comments about an article on its own discussion page, not here. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. If you'd like to see more information why not consider adding it yourself? --Monotonehell 02:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a very good, in fact a featured article all about Excel. ;) —Dark•Shikari[T] 03:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually we already generally cover software in a great amount of detail and our main failing is probably more in areas like history, anthropology, country info etc of the developing world, particularly African and the non English speaking developing world... I've also noticed our coverage of some areas of biology appears fairly slim at this is probably true for most of the sciences Nil Einne 05:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And some of the science/math articles that do exist are inaccessible to layfolk due to a lack of a simple introduction paragraph. --Monotonehell 14:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually this probably applies to a lot of computer related articles as well except most of us are too geeky to notice :-P Nil Einne 17:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL yes. --Monotonehell 17:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  about excel 

message: What is Process in Alzheimer Dieses memory failure? As I understand memory process information in 3 stages i.e encode, recode and retrieve. Is there any information ?
Mukund Mehta 20:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try reading the Alzheimer's disease article. If that doesn't help, try the reference desk (Wikipedia:Reference Desk/Science) Nil Einne 20:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alzheimer Dieses 

message: 9 DYK's is a bit too much. Sometimes theres barely more than 5. Why not "save them" and say put about 6 or why not put up a moving average number of DYK's? Tourskin 01:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: DYKs are chosen to balance the two sides of the Main Page. More are added when there's a short FA blurb. So long as there are others to choose for the next update, it doesn't really matter. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 02:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, both ITN & OTD are one over their respective limit to counterbalance the two sides of the Main Page while DYK is excessively long. This is pushing POTD too far down. Please stick to the limits. --74.13.126.61 04:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't see the problem. I have tried viewing the Main Page using three different browsers on three different computers - and every way the page looks very balanced today. --Ghirla-трёп- 14:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, Main Page looks very balanced today because other sections compensated by being longer than what's prescribed in their respective guidelines. DYK is getting longer and longer, forcing ITN & OTD to be longer and longer to maintain balance. It's worse when TFA happens to be long that day, too. POTD gets shoved further down. Please stay within the limits. --74.14.19.102 16:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Now if you'll replace the ever-lengthening ITN, DYK and OTD with a featured list, it'll give visitors more bang for their buck. --Howard the Duck 03:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not again! Advocacy for featured lists, HTD...psshhhhhhhhh. 68.101.123.219 02:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DYK's 

message: No mention of the Anaheim Ducks winning the Stanley Cup? It's a major sporting event, especailly in Canada and I remember when other league's championships were decided they had something about them on it. --206.163.228.33 18:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make a request. ffm ✎talk 19:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been posted but after a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time sitting on the WP:ITN/C page. --Howard the Duck' 03:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  News? 

message: The "Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running!" is overlaping with the main banner a slight bit. Its not a bad problem but it would be nice if somebody fixed it :) -Ĭ₠ŴΣĐĝё 22:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Main Page/Archive 96#Timestamp overlap. --74.14.19.65 05:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donations sentence problem 

message: Anyone find it odd that the illustration comes from the Bible? 209.190.233.125 13:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ironic, but still illustrative of the word in original Greek usage. It's not an easy subject to have an image for. —Cuiviénen 14:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that the blurb requires an illustration, since the article concerns a difficult-to-photograph philosophical notion. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 15:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yes, don't I know... Raul654 17:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that dead horse had it comin'. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 00:17, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atheism picture 

message: What code can I use to change the color of my entire user page? Not just a table or something... the whole page. <FONT FACE="MS Reference Sans Serif" COLOR="#FF0000">► Adriaan90 ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) ♪♫</FONT> 23:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I remember correctly, the actual layout of the page is determined on the viewer's side, rendered according to the style (the default is monobook). I don't think it's possible to change the entire page. I don't think you can actually edit the HTML of the entire page, I think you can only edit the source... Sbrools (talk . contribs) 00:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Help:User style should give you a sense of what is possible, while WP:VPT or WP:VPA would be the best place for further questions. - BanyanTree 04:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page color 

message: On my browsers its coming up as a red link for a template that seems to have been deleted -- Brent Ward 14:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not deleted, just not yet created. Need an admin to create the POTD file and protect it right after. --74.14.21.36 14:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomorrow's featured picture 

message: For some reason, people keep vandalizing the main page somehow. I guess that sometimes the Main Page is unprotected and the vandals get there at just the right time. How can this be fixed? Another thing is how about protecting all of the templates that appear on the Main Page and the template that appears on the templates that appear on the Main Page, and so on? ANNAfoxlover 20:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about any vandalism, I didn't see it. But everything that appears on the main page, including templates should in theory be cascade protected automatically. Occasionally problems happen or admins go rogue or admin accounts get hacked but generally it works well. Nil Einne 20:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Our why we generally don't protect an article whilst it's featured on the main page explanatory guideline has, it has been suggested in a few places of late, undergone some meaningful if ostensibly insignificant changes of late (I don't know that it appears that our fundamental approach has changed; it's more likely that that approach simply no longer, rightly or wrongly, comports with policy [which should, of course, be descriptive]), and so editors interested in the issue—which presents itself not infrequently here and which is referenced at the main page FAQ—might do well to weigh in here. Joe 03:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today's featured article protection 

message: Today there's a huge white space next to the featured picture box. Not intentional right? LukeSurl t c 09:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see a purple space. If it is this to which you are refereing to, then this is just because the POTD is so large today. ffm ✎talk 13:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big gap to the right of the featured picture 

message: I think This page is very well set up I will forever use wikipedia
:Thanks, but this isn't exactly appropreate for wikipedia's main page. ffm ✎talk 19:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compliment 

message: Wikipedia:Main_Page shows a wikimedia error message currently. ffm ✎talk 13:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem seems do have disappeared on its own. ffm ✎talk 13:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redierect error 

message: The ITN section seems to frequently mention spaceflights, particularly Space Shuttle launches. However, most of these launches are quite routine ones; there's typically a Shuttle flight every couple of months, and Soyuz launches every 5 months or so, and most of these missions, while important, are not necessary news-worthy: yes, the ISS needs more Integrated Truss Structures, but is it really more news-worthy than any of the other stuff which happened on 8 June, 2007 (in particular, the 2007 Hunter region and Central Coast storms, which caused death, injury and property damage, have a medium-length article, with some striking images, which could have done with a little main-page exposure). Perhaps in future, these should be limited to major flights only (ie; the sort that are widely reported in non-specialised news sources), such as the launch of a well-publicized space probe or when the last ISS component is launched. Laïka 12:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a question of what's more important (which is terribly subjective), it's the fact that no one has suggested the article you mentioned. --Monotonehell 12:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Try WP:ITN/C. 2007 Chittagong mudslide is waiting there. --74.13.124.211 05:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spaceflights on ITN 

message: you're linking to sex in film! kids will see it! parents will be angry! rawr! (i know about Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not censored#Wikipedia is not censored).--Ithinkiexist 20:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see which section you are talking about, but I like it none-the-less... Raul654 20:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First item in DYK. I demand this filth and any servers it is stored on be burned, and the ashes microwaved and then flushed down a toilet, after which the sewage treatment plant must also be burned. For the children!--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot to ask that anyone who has seen it be shot. After all, if they've seen it, it's always possible they'll tell someone. And then we have to burn the bodies. If we don't, it's always possible that at some point in the future, some advanced alien civilization might be able to scan their brains. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! (Alien or otherwise) Raul654 20:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Big Dongs Express, baby Bubby the Tour G 20:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: PS - Every time you say "think of the children", god snuffs a dozen of them out. And if you say it in all caps, it's two dozen... Raul654 20:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Of course, we have to think of the children. Any who saw it should be incinerated forthwith. In fact, probably best to kill them all now just in case. It's the only way to be sure. Dragons flight 20:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it - simple, cheap and easy to implement, good for the environment. It's a win-win. Raul654 20:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Since when is it news that Wikipedia peddles smut to children? I really do wonder what the outrage would be if we just featured God awful filth for a week. ShadowHalo 22:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No, this is bananas. ShadowHalo 00:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: B-A-N-A-N-A-S! --- RockMFR 01:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Jokes or not, not censored notwithstanding, I still think we should generally refrain from using profanities on the main page. While it's an important part of the FA, it's not the subject of the FA (this is not the first time this has happened), and that's more sentences than that part of the page needs from the FA.The Main Page is the public face of Wikipedia ... whatever other nastiness is found within, it ought not to be out there IMO. Daniel Case 01:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention the fact that the sentence using the term on the front page has a "citation needed" tag on the main article page. Shock value over accuracy I guess. - Pal 01:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. All the sources I've read so far have consistency ragged on the song's overall annoyingness, not the use of the word "shit". --- RockMFR 02:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We should stick to using a more mature, civilized word like "doody". *Dan T.* 02:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: [edit conflict] The word shit is an inseparable part of the song. It's used around three dozen times. Also, the  tag was misplaced and later removed by another editor. It wasn't cited in the lead, and doesn't need to be since it's cited in the main article text. ShadowHalo 02:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Inseparable it may be from the song, but the article itself devotes one graf of a four-graf "reception" section to one critic's complaint about the use of that word. How does that justify "especially" in the intro? I would have noted that had I been one of the reviewers of the original FAC, but given the multiple nominations and controversies it took to get it here I'd rather not revisit that.Would the section excerpted here be compromised greatly if that sentence beginning "Despite ..." were not included? It's not exactly like we're starved for DYKs lately; one more could have fit in. Daniel Case 02:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, would that really be a good idea? WP:DYK says 5-8 should be used; adding another would make it an even dozen. ShadowHalo 03:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, you're sort of changing the subject, but anyway ... have you looked at the candidates page lately? Thanks to the bot, we're getting lots more candidates than we used to. I certainly think that calls for an increase in permitted DYKs ... otherwise it would be weeks till some made the Main Page, and they wouldn't really be new anymore. Daniel Case 05:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The number of candidates ebbs and flows. Even with the bot suggestions, someone still has to go through and vet them and write up a hook before they can be used. howcheng {chat} 20:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Don't you mean "Bugger me, I can't fucking believe we have  'shit' in today's crappy FA. What wanker thought it was a good idea"? :-P Nil Einne 10:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Featured articles are about the quality of the article, not the quality of the subject. Otherwise, Hollaback Girl never would have made FA. ShadowHalo 12:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if George W. Bush ever made FA, we would surely feature him Nil Einne 16:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  oh noes censor! censor!