Talk:National Council Against Health Fraud

message: A section about NCAHFs legal actions is necessary. See  : Censored by wikipedia !!!--Möteimonsunen (talk) 08:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I tend to agree with you, but we would need a reliable, nonlibelous source commenting on NCAHF's participation in lawsuits.  In particular, the Ilena lawsuit was interesting, in regard Ilena's action, but not really in regard Barrett's and NCAHF was not a party at all.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 14:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Check these documents:
Case 1:10-cv-03795 document#:105 Filed:04/17/12 Page 10f 7 Page ID #:1154
In the united states District court for the northern District of Illinois Eastern Division.
Doctors data, inc    Plaintiff
v.
Stephen J. Barrett, M.D.,
National Council against Health fraud, inc., and QACKWATCH, inc.,
A dissolved corporation,                     Defendants.
You can find the document on internet.  --Möteimonsunen (talk) 06:13, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is one link to the latest case:  http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2010cv03795/244564/82/0.pdf?1322081067  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Möteimonsunen (talk • contribs) 06:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

text: http://statecasefiles.justia.com/documents/california/supreme-court/s122953.pdf?ts=1323887082--Möteimonsunen (talk) 06:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so I was wrong about NCAHF not being a party.  My mistake.   However, We have an article about that case.  There's little reason it should be more than mentioned here, and the actual court documents are primary sources, unusable per WP:BLPPRIMARY, at least insofar as you are confusing NCAHF with Barrett.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 06:52, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you want to hide all the legal cases NCAHF are invold in ? This for exampel http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2010cv03795/244564/82/0.pdf?1322081067  ?--Möteimonsunen (talk) 08:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this source must be a reliable source, if any:   http://www.justia.com/  --Möteimonsunen (talk) 09:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It (justia) is essentially a primary source.  There's no commentary about the lawsuits, and whether they are justified.  (Being dismissed doesn't mean it was unjustified; Barrett v. Rosenthal was a "case of first impression", although it appears no lawyers now claim to have doubted the outcome.)  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NCAHF and the law 

message: I cannot verify the statement. Can someone please quote the relevant information from the reference? --Ronz (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't verify it either. Maybe this whole thing in synthesis.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.152 (talk) 04:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

text: Based on this, we should lose the Quack Watch source all together and mention of Rep. Burton. We can still include the criticism, but source it to The chiropractor website, which generally makes that critique — that NCAHF is not a government agency. But I don't think the source criticizes it for that. The most critics comes in the form of the NCAHF's data on chiropractic being dated and inaccurate. I actually think the chiropractor website article is surprisingly neutral with regard to NCAHF.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.170 (talk) 22:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the first, but the chiropractic websites are only usable for their own opinion, which is not similar to that of Mr. Burton.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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message: As I warned MikeL12348 in January, the recent text appears to have added presumably copyrighted material (as seen here, as "CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEAL HANDS DOWN LANDMARK RULING IN FAVOR OF HOMEOPATHY - BARRETT DEFEATED ONCE AGAIN!") without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. What I didn't remember to do was request revision deletion, though I suppose I should do that now. It would be revisions  and  --tronvillain (talk) 21:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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