Talk:Donner Party timeline

message: I'm confused.  The timeline says that they disappear into the woods on Dec 30 after Foster proposes eating them, but the death summary says that they were killed by Foster on about Jan 7. Jordan Brown (talk) 04:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The snowshoers caught up with them later.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.228.152.241 (talk) 16:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luis and Salvador 

message: I am involved in rewriting the Donner Party article. I plan on reworking this timeline with the sources used for that article. Most of the sources used in this timeline would not be considered reliable sources for a featured list. I am also considering removing the list of the dead in favor of a separate Roster of the Donner Party members. Does anyone watching this article have any thoughts on this? --Moni3 (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you think the timeline ought to be structured?  I like that it is broken up into months right now - that is easier to follow than if all the events were in a single table.  As you've noticed, I like tables for ease of reading, and I wonder if that would be the best approach under each month.  In my ideal world, in some months the tables would have more columns, for example, so that we can track what was happening at Truckee Lake/Alder Creek separately from what the Forlorn Hope members were doing.  How do you see it, Moni?  As tables?  As text? Karanacs (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend not to think in tables. Maybe that's a cause and effect cycle because I suck at tables. I had not thought as far ahead as to how it might be structured. Maybe I was thinking I'd start putting in better cited information and it would form itself after a bit. If you have a structure you think would be a good idea, please show me. I'm interested to see it. --Moni3 (talk) 16:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A rough example of what it could look like with tables is atUser:Karanacs/Donner#Timeline_mockup.  This is the first time the idea has gotten out of my head - I don't know whether it works or not. Karanacs (talk) 18:15, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to work for me. I think I can manage that. Btw, does Rarick have a roster? I'm working on that here and I think it's almost ready to be posted. --Moni3 (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Rarick doesn't have a roster.  I've included all the information that he did provide on ages in my notes.  Per Kristin Johnson's blog posting about his book, he used her research for names and ages. As for the timeline mockup, I don't want to force you into something that you might not find easy to read - this is just an example and not one I'm specifically wedded to. Karanacs (talk) 18:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What about coloring events on the snowshoe party? And the relief parties? --Moni3 (talk) 19:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind using colors, but we need to keep Wikipedia:Accessibility#Color in mind, and not use color as the only method to differentiate. Karanacs (talk) 19:30, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul 

message: Would it be helpful to add to the table of deaths the ages of those who died? On the narrative article on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Party) all the ages are written out in paragraph form and it seems pertinent to include the ages of death on this page. Mtdent23 (talk) 00:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deaths 

message: I think there might be some sort of screw up, either here or at the "Donner Party" article, regarding the timing of Lemuel Murphy's death and the timing of the cannibalism:
December 25, 1846: ...At "Camp of Death" Patrick Dolan and young Lemuel Murphy die.
December 26, 1846: The snowshoers resort to cannibalism, "averting their faces from one another and weeping."
Versus
As the blizzard progressed, Patrick Dolan began to rant deliriously, stripped off his clothes and ran into the woods. He returned shortly afterwards and died a few hours later. Not long after, possibly because 12-year-old Lemuel Murphy was near death, some of the group began to eat flesh from Dolan's body. Lemuel's sister tried to feed some to her brother, but he died shortly afterwards.
PS: According to whom was it called the "Camp of Death"? There is not citation or reference for it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.75.38.6 (talk) 22:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline Accuracy