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Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-19/Failing

message: For the record, I've listed both the article Wikipedia:Wikipedia is failing and the rebuttal on AFD as divisive and stupid. yes, I know it seems like another battle and I'm going off the rails, but really, this is all getting very stupid. Ever since this trend towards writing essays to push POV and attempt to make defacto policy, the whole site is getting much more unfriendly and unproductive. Essays are a great way of a. getting around consensus, and b. push your sole POV on others. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

message: Interesting read!  I have a couple of minor suggestions: you might want to note that the version of the essay that was moved to my user space was the re-written version as opposed to the original.  As I was blocked at the time I couldn't do anything about that.  You might also want to note that User:AudeVivere undeleted the link that JzG deleted, and he then re-deleted it.  Feel free to ignore these suggestions if you think they are biased!  Worldtraveller 12:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yes, and you say it was moved over my protests.  I argued against the move but I wouldn't really say it was moved over my protests as I think I was not the only one arguing, and 'over X's protests' possibly sounds a bit over-dramatic.  Again, ignore if you want.  Worldtraveller 12:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope you like the changes. I thought of mentioning AudeVivere's recreation and deletion but decided against it, as it was reversed and wasn't very important in the whole scheme of things, plus it might over-complicate what is already quite a complicated history. Sam Blacketer 16:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Couple of points

message: Unfortunately, the article fails to explain why I moved it into userspace, merely stating that I did so.  I think the reasoning here is important, and I would've liked to have seen it covered in the article.  --Cyde Weys 01:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What was that... maybe a reporter might be kind enough to update the article. That article, incidently, should be in user space. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Move log, it was "If no one else is allowed to edit this, as many of the "Wikipedia is failing" crowd are asserting, then it is NOT a projectspace essay." I did not include this as the reason for the move because I had already reported that people were using this argument. Sam Blacketer 10:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missed reasoning
Talk:Soviet people

message: I've edited this article to improve its accuracy.  The term "Soviet people" (narod) only came into formal party doctrine after 1970, during Brezhnev's leadership.  However, the article implied that this term was used throughout Soviet history.  Even now, there are no citations to the use of the term, the source of the term.  Another problem with the essay is that it had stated or implied that official policy was consistent from the beginning to the end of the regime. That's simply not the case. I've added a bit of a corrective by including reference to some things that are addressed in other WP articles, such as those on korenizatsiya and Russification.  This article actually adds nothing to those articles, and in some respects (at least before it was edited) confuses things by its lack of citations and historical context for the term. I think it's a good candidate for deletion.--Mack2 09:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ahistorical

message: I fail to see the point of this list. Everyone with an article on wikipedia is assumed to be notable, so this list could easily go into the tens of thousands. 2A02:A451:8B2D:1:3D10:EE4B:CB0F:30BA (talk) 18:32, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of notable Soviet people
Talk:Respecto Montalban

message: I am working to find references for this and other comedy- and humor-related articles. Please help if you can. I would prefer this article's quality reflect its subject's importance. Please see WP:reliable sources for a description of the type of sources that can be used to improve this article. Thanks. --Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 09:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: References have been added and external links as well. This posting in and of itself is actually a good example of the issue I've had with your edits.  Despite references being made and additional links being provided, you are still insisting on a level of citation that is simply practically impossible to provide.  I have said it before, but I will continue to post the concept of assuming good faith on the part of Wiki contributors and not be so quick to judge or act tempermental when someone does not aggree with your strict view of Wiki guidelines.  Ultimately the Wiki is a collaborative environment, and the way you are going about these requests bellie the concept of cooperation and seem to be a tad "power hungry" more than anything else. SpyMagician 09:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References
Talk:Green tree frog

message: I found a small bright green frog on top of my shed door.I put him on the ground and he climbed up the side.I'm in eastern Ontario Canada.I have never seen one of these in this area.I'm out in the country so I d'ont think its a pet.There is a swampy area behind the house.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeg4 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green Tree Frog in Canada
Talk:Day of Prayer

message: I would like to suggest the article be kept, for the following reasons:
*It was the first meeting of representatives from diverse religions under the auspices and with the blessing of the Roman Catholic Church. It was called by Pope John Paul II. Meetings of different Christian denominations had gathered before in this context, but not non-Christian religions.
*The meeting was a prayer meeting, and not a dialogue. The different religious groups did not pray together, but separately. Nevertheless this represented a marked departure from Roman Catholic practice.
* The first meeting and the successive meetings have had a significant impact on inter-religious dialogue.
*The Assisi meetings, especially the first one, are occasions of criticism from the Roman Catholic religious Right, which maintains that they promote religious indifferentism, and as such, impact significantly upon the internal politics of the Roman Catholic Church.
The article, as it is, certainly needs expanding.  
Cheers,--Gazzster 09:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: According to Wikipedia under "Religion", Jainism is noted as one of the major religions and would be comfortable supporting/attending an event such as this. I wonder if maybe it was accidentally neglected from the list of religions that attended.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa (talk • contribs) 04:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jainism present ?
Talk:Mel Gray (wide receiver)

message: Mel was married twice. He had a daughter, Melana, that won a track scholarship to UCSD. Mel never played football before being drafted by the NFL. He was wanted for his speed, and as it turned out, he could catch the ball and also jump very high for someone only 5"9".
(76.126.169.195 (talk) 05:32, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:David James Mossman

message: Spelling of lover's name?
Current BBC article regarding the play about Mossman's life spells it "Louis Hanssen", not "Louis Hanson".  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6385841.stm  --rsgdodge 04:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Amended --Zefrog 00:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate

message: An entire article about one subject of controversy at a school very much seems to violate the undue weight provision of WP:NPOV, especially when there is already an article about the main subject of that controversy. I've replaced the article with some general information on the school. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 10:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article rewrite for NPOV
Talk:George Hickes (divine)

message: In the lists of episcopal succession in Crockford's Clerical Directory, the entry for Thetford includes the line,
:1570-1894 in abeyance
Yet George Hickes was apparently bishop of Thetford for some of that time.--Oxonian2006 10:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hickes was a non-juror, i.e. schismatic as far as the Church of England was concerned. Charles Matthews (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Thetford
Talk:List of the bishops of the Diocese of Norwich, England and its precursor offices

message: In the lists of episcopal succession in Crockford's Clerical Directory, the entry for Thetford includes the line,
:1570-1894 in abeyance
Yet George Hickes was apparently bishop of Thetford for some of that time.--Oxonian2006 11:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: George Hickes, suffragan bishop of Thetford 1694
Talk:Thumos

message: Why on earth would an article on such a precisely defined subject as the Greek concept of thymos be merged with the article on Mood (psychology), which is only a stub at the moment? I don't get the reasoning. Cynwolfe (talk) 00:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A thumbs-down vote on Mood merge 

message: Thymos is a concept significant to scholars - historians, psychologists, literary critics, and others. It is not the same as mood or a subset of mood. The article clearly and precisely describes this concept and should stand as it is. Demosthenes22 (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not merge this - Thymos is a historically significant concept 

message: And misses the sources too. I can only agree to the predecessor, "thumos" isn't even a viable way of spelling that word in a lexicon claiming to be near scientific.
But on the matter: there are not 2 words with the same spelling of thymos having different accents, meaning something with soul and something with anger.
The word this article is about is thymos with an acute on the omikron (what a shame I can't just type Greek here). That word - as many other Greek words - has a large scale of meanings. But basically it is a part of the human (or divine) soul. With metonymy it can be used to describe the whole soul.
This part of the soul is indeed the place (and quite wordly a "place"), where certain human feelings come from, in particular there is honor and anger. And in that function the word thymos can be used instead of anger or some other feelings or thoughts.
Of course there have been differences in understanding and using this words in greek antiquity - not only due to the chronical space between the authors but surely because of different opinions about the human soul. This article should explain that history from Homer over Plato and the Neo-Platonists to the modern ages and use the basic literature (there's alot) about this topic. But that's a major task and I don't want to command this work to anyone.
I just want the wrong information to be taken off and be corrected. And filled with source.
I propose using the Liddell-Scott-Jones, which is even online available (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/). You'll find the different usages of thymos (accent on the last syllable). You'll also find a word "thymos" with the accent on the first syllable, but it means "warty excrescence".
On another note: Accents in ancient written Greek is another big discussion. Surely neither Homer nor Platon have written such accents.
I am just not good enough of a writer, and this topic is too important for me to dare to change it on my own. Kudos to anyone who does it :)
--Colajunkieee (talk) 19:10, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The explanation for the ancient greek is wrong. 

message: The spirited part of the soul is thymos. Thumos means anger. The title of this article should be Thymos. CorkyH (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title change to Thymos - Recommendation
Talk:The Lost Planet

message: I've added a reference to the completely different British "The  Lost Planet" series, known to me as a childrens radio serial (1954)   and in book form, and I believe it was also redone in tv form, see Angus McVicar
This probably needs its own page with disambiguation, but I'm a noob editor so please treat me gently :) 
Shannock9 11:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: i marked the quote as dubious, as Captain Video: Master of the Stratosphere has the exact same review, word-for-word, from the same source. i don't want to comment on the authors (lack of) originality, but this seems dubious.--91.64.59.134 (talk) 17:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious
Talk:B2 First

message: Hello, my name is Louise and I work for Cambridge English Language Assessment. I'm here to update outdated content and suggest information that will improve the quality of Cambridge English Language Assessment related pages. I will abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and would welcome Wikipedians' views on the updates.
Many thanks Louise
Education consultant, Cambridge English Language Assessment, 1 Hills Road, Cambridge, CB1 2EULouisePope (talk) 21:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Declaration of affiliation

message: I've removed the orphan template, as I introduced more links.--Orthologist 11:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphan 

message: It would be better if someone could provide with any information about how to get an FCE. Is this certificate provided in only England or is it available also in other countries? Do we have to be in the UK to get one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derinmavi000 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to get? 

message: Source 3: [2] http://www.britishcouncil.org/czechrepublic-exams-fce.htm Retrieved 7 May 2014 doesn't exist. 195.169.119.65 (talk) 09:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source?
Talk:Dean Morris

message: Has he actually appeared since 2004? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 11:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: I have placed merger tags on a number of character articles. Rather than repeat the reasoning on each talk page I have set out the full argument here. Please feel free to leave comments either on this talk page or at the WikiProject. I want to try and start a debate about the whole way in which Emmerdale information is provided on Wikipedia --Amxitsa 20:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Merger
Talk:Pathlight School

message: We need free pics on the school! Ruennsheng (Talk)  12:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a photo request template. Roger (talk) 07:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Jappalang has added a pic. Thanks. --Mirokado (talk) 15:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help in pics 

message: Is there a suitable infobox available for this article? Roger (talk) 17:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox
Talk:Paul Lim

message: Greetings! Regarding this revert...what did you find objectionable about it? I found it a bit weird that there were two charts, one for letter + color but not meaning, and one for letter + meaning, but none for color + meaning. The meanings in the first chart are not accessible on mobile devices, because they are hidden by the  tag, and the whole first chart is too wide to fit on a mobile screen without horizontal scrolling. If you didn't like that the meanings were colorized, we could do something that only colorized the letters, like:
W	Won tournament
To reduce size, we could also eliminate the letters that aren't used, including W. -- Beland (talk) 00:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: let me look around abd find one we can copy over that solves all these problems (which I agree there are problems). I still think something that is horizontally oriented is fine - as the table is oriented horizontally as well. I mainly saw the very tall legend to distract from the value od the table. Cheers, DLManiac (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Ok so I've moved one over that commonly appears on other darts pages (I took this one from Michael van Gerwen. You've brought up a great point with the ABBR problem on mobile, and this will probably be something to consider on many other dart pages that use this same style. There are also plenty more accessibility problems with these tables in general that I think could be fixed... It's at the end of a long list of things I have. My apologies for my revert being less helpful!DLManiac (talk) 20:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks tidy; thanks for your help! -- Beland (talk) 04:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend
Talk:Hurrying

message: Some expansion of this should include the fact that children would sit, in complete darkness, for many (eg: twelve) hours. The doors were used as a way to regulate air flow, helping keep the mine ventilated. DanBeale 11:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trappers were already mentioned under the "Roles" section, but I have expanded the text a little now.  violet/riga (t) 14:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trappers 

message: Would candles have been given to people in a mine?  Wouldn't naked flames be too dangerous?  The reference given makes no mention of candles. DanBeale 11:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I used the wrong reference - sorry about that - I've changed it now.  The National Coal Mining Museum external link includes an image of some of the candles used.  violet/riga (t) 14:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naked Flame? 

message: I am considering that this might become a "Child labour in the mining industry" article as it could include several other professions not directly related to hurrying, including Couplers, Greasers, Putters (including trams, headsmen, foals, and half-marrows), Wailers, and Windroad boys.  I don't think that they warrant individual articles and the title "Hurrying" does not cover all of the roles.  violet/riga (t) 14:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wider topic 
Talk:Qi Yuwu

message: There is a current RFC on certain content in Singapore artistes BLP articles that editors watching/editing/passing through this article may be interested in weighing in: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Content in Notes column of filmography tables in Singapore artistes BLPs. This article may be affected due to the inclusion of :Category:Singaporean actors‎ and/or one of its subcategories in the article. RobertskySemi (talk) 00:00, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC on content in Notes column of filmography tables in Singapore artistes BLPs
Talk:Racial Harmony Day

message: Should the riots be summarised in the article? This article seems to be too much a gloss over the riots which are the main reason why schools observe RHD. Singyouranthem (talk) 13:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub status 
Talk:Regional centre (Singapore)

message: A discussion is taking place to address a potential problem with the redirect Regional centre and it has been listed for discussion. Readers of this page are welcome to participate at  until a consensus is reached.  —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 17:54, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Regional centre]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Thomas George (Australian politician)

message: I removed the following from the Infobox: "   ARCHITECT KERALA". I cannot see how is it related to the content of the article and suspect it to be a (clumsy) attempt of advertising - possibly this website: http://www.georgethomasassociates.com.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nahum.korda (talk • contribs) 14:15, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Talk:List of dams and reservoirs in Singapore

message: Hello everyone, I propose we add Murnane as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murnane_Service_Reservoir
It's a 276,000 cubic meters (after 1993 reconstruction): http://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/data/pdfdoc/PUB19911213.pdf
And it's no longer just a "service" one, it's feeding CBD's water demand under Rail Corridor, there's a map here: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/pipe-laying-works-under-stretch-of-rail-corridor-complete-but-stretch-will
Thoughts?.. I'd say it's a fully-functional reservoir, quite worth to be featured in this list?
--Arsenyspb (talk) 05:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Murnane Reservoir?..
Talk:Orient Airways

message: Urdu 119.73.118.14 (talk) 12:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orient airline
Talk:Roti john

message: My local hawker center in Singapore serves both Mutton and Chicken Roti John, so I've amended the copy to reflect that consistently. Hugh Mason (talk • contribs 02:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mutton or chicken

message: The earliest documented claim I can find is credits an unnamed hawker in Sembawang, Singapore, in the 1960s. The popularity is credited to a man named Shukor, in 1975 or 1976, also in Singapore. The following cite Shukor's daughter:
*
* – quotes the Chennai Online article, as well as two from the Straits Times I am unable to locate.
The following may also be of help:
* – appears to be a letter to the editor
This blog claims that Shukor got the recipe from a fellow hawker in Geylang. The other claimant I can find is Ithnin Bin Ahmad, Malacca, 1978, but as this postdates the other claims, can be ruled out. Ibadibam (talk) 03:42, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins
Talk:Pakistan Post

message: If its motto is indeed "serving everyone, everyday, everywhere" (I can't read Arabic to tell), shouldn't "everyday" be spelt "every day"? cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 17:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "everyday" 

message: What is article 151(2) parcel post vol -¡¡ 2.103.71.35 (talk) 21:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You will have to ask them yourself. Try a link from this webpage: https://www.pakpost.gov.pk/contact_us.php ww2censor (talk) 22:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is article 151(2) parcel post vol -¡¡
Talk:Rock This Party (Everybody Dance Now)

message: Does anyone else think this is the worst song they have ever heard? If someone can find a review saying that it is please put it on here. This song frustrates me so badly, how could you like it? Raph89 11:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think this is no subject of this discussion page or the wiki article. If you find some article in a serious magazine that rates the song in some way and you find it relevant you can add it. --89.246.196.11 (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There is a LOT of confusion about the various parodied scenes in the music video. Notably the scene from 1:00 to 1:15, and the mention of an reference to Outkast.  This English page originally referenced Eminem, but then that changed to 50 Cent, and then removed entirely. The french page (notable as the artist is french) referenced Eminem, and majority people believe it to be Eminem, however there is no clear connection to any specific Eminem music video, which is odd as all the other scenes clearly reference a specific music video.
I was (with the help of others) able to find a seemingly reliable source, which should trump no source. This source goes in great detail about the video, and claims the following order of parodied scenes; Tom Cruise, Kurt Cobain, AC/DC, Bob Marley, Eminem, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Sean Paul, The Beatles, Justin Timberlake, John Travolta and Michael Jackson. Note that Eminem is mentioned, Outkast is not, and there is also additional reference to Tom Cruise.
I have since added/fixed these references on the article. --XX FrUiTy Xx (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Video References