Talk:Call sign

message: This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. From Call Letters to call sign. Call Letters was obviously wrong. If we need to decide between call sign and callsign, we can propose another move and then discuss between those two apparently equally correct options. –Hajor 19:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In the American exceptions section isn't WOWT Omaha reaching also Lincoln further west then the San Antonio station?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.49.209.18 (talk) 15:45, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: San Antonio is still a little farther west than Lincoln.  But it wouldn't matter anyway - It's the city of license which counts, not the farthest reaches of where the signal can normally be received.  87.114.54.197 (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: WOWT

message: Call sign was an unnecessary disambig page. I merged it with Callsign (radio) which had the bulk of the content. I think the main article should be at Call sign. (If someone strongly prefers Callsign, I won't argue much.) -- agr 21:50, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Temporary fix done. violet/riga (t) 21:00, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move proposal: [[Callsign (radio)]] &rarr; [[Call sign]] 

message: I have noted on the moves page that the proper title of this article should be Call sign, not Call letters (couldn't make the move myself -- got caught up in a tangle of redirects I didn't know how to deal with). The reasoning is that "call letters" are a special case of a general "call sign", mostly as applied to broadcast radio and TV stations in North America. In any case, there are other uses of the term "call sign" mentioned in this article that have nothing to do with letters, making the title of the article misleading. Haikupoet 04:20, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO Call Letters is out, it doesn't follow the Wikipedia standard for article titles (no capital letters unless it's a proper name, which this isn't). Noel (talk) 02:46, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Call Letters is wrong per wikipedia convention, which is why someone proposed moving it to Call letters ... HOWEVER, as we've all noted, it should be Call sign (ITU form) or Callsign (apparently most popular form).  Everything else (and a bunch more) will redirect to whatever we decide. --N5UWY/9 - plaws 19:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'd say in this case ITU usage trumps everything else, as they're the ones responsible for allocating the damn things anyway. Haikupoet 18:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some background reading on the callsign vs. call sign phenomenon at English compound#Types of compound nouns. See also Talk:Copy editing (wrt copy editors, copy-editors, and copyeditors) and here for thoughts on website vs. web site. Essentially, there's pressure on such compounds to join up, and that pressure's at its highest among the initiates (hams with callsigns, webmasters with websites); conversely, the process tends to be less far along among the general lay public (and actively resisted by the Competent Authorities). –Hajor 19:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've said, I don't much care one way or the other (call sign or callsign), and I have two ...  but Call letters is wrong.  I say let's just move it!  -- N5UWY/9 - plaws 01:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: moved from WP:RM:
**I would go so far as to suggest moving it back to Call sign or Callsign -- it's a more general term (call letters being a special case of call signs; not all call signs are call letters per se). Call letters should be a redirect -- I tried to make the move myself but got caught up in a morass of redirects. Haikupoet 04:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Can i ask where the information about "VL" being part of radio call letters in AU came from? 210.49.196.232 11:42, 17 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aussie Callsigns 

message: Does anyone know of any reason why Television call sign diverts here?  Australia has a very different Television call sign format than radio call sign.  --Chuq 01:40, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because most countries that assign callsigns to television stations don't.  20:41, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Interesting..  I've read a lot of sites covering Australian TV history and none of them show or use any format such as 6TEN.  Can you post a more complete list?  I'll go googling for details! -- Chuq 00:43, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked my '94 WRTH and it shows the format you describe.  So either I was utterly confused, or I'm remembering something I saw in the '88 WRTH, which I don't have a copy of.  18.26.0.18 05:29, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Television vs Radio

message: Can someone please explain the rules for broadcast television callsigns in this "Callsign" article?  For example, some television stations in the US have multiple numbers, while some have none.  Again, for example, KHOU in Houston has no numbers, while W63AU has two numbers. --64.128.27.82 (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The TV callsigns incorporating numbers are for translator stations, a.k.a. repeaters or relays, which simply receive a signal from a main station and rebroadcast it.  The numbers are assigned based upon the output channel of the translator, with a leading zero if necessary to make two digits.  Thus W63AU is a translator for some other transmitter which rebroadcasts on channel 63, while K05AA would be a translator rebroadcasting on channel 5.   87.114.54.197 (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: US Television Callsigns

message: Doesn't ships have callsigns, too? Scriberius 18:19, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
:Some do, but not all. The smallest ships in the U.S. (some pleasure craft) don't have to even have radios. The big ones have broadcast-style 4-letter callsigns.Stereorock (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Maritime Radio

message: Why did and do transmitters for long-range navigation systems (LORAN, DECCA, Alpha, Omega) not require callsigns? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.74.40.27 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 9 August 2005.
: I can think of a couple of reasons.
# The navigation (or other information) signal format is fixed and does not have provision for inserting a call sign into the middle of the data stream.
# The specifics of the signal transmitted are fixed for a given transmitter, and distinct from that of all other transmitters in the service, so the identity of the transmitter is clear without the need for a call sign.
: I don't have references for this, though a look at the LORAN signal format will show that inserting a call sign into that signal would make for quite a mess... Paul Koning 14:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Transmitters for long range navigation systems

message: I haven't fixed the double redirects (both those which point here, as well as to the article) because as the page is likely to be moved, it will be a waste of time (they'll just have to be updated again then). Noel (talk) 03:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Double redirects

message: Just to document, I removed: "Excepting this and some specialized uses for VE and VF, only the codes CB, CF, CH, CI, CJ and CK are currently in use." This is because: VE and VA are commonly used by amateur radio operators, with VF and VG used for special events. Additionally, CG is a common airplane prefix. Furthermore, this information is excessive for that section of the article and, perhaps, that whole section should be drastically shortened... 13 examples is far to many! Andrewjuren 19:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  removal of excessive inaccurate information 

message: There is a tendency among radio hams to refer to a radio ham in Italy with bad operating practices (it is quite common for Italian radioamateurs to tail-end or even jam transmissions from a DXpedition by constantly calling, even while the DX station is working someone) as an 'IQ zero', although the reason is obvious, I should explain that IQ0 is one of Italy's prefixes commonly allocated to radioamateurs.  I bear no malice to the Italians, I just thought this piece of ham radio information might amuse some readers.  CMIIW 17:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Inevitable, I suppose, much like it's seemingly impossible to find a commercial Dominion of Newfoundland VO station without finding a "voice of..." backronym to match. VOAR, VOCM, VOWR thus become "Voice of Adventist Radio", "Voice of Common Man" (or "Voice of Church of Mary") and "Voice of Wesleyan Radio" respectively. The rest of the VO calls are used in amateur service. --66.102.80.212 (talk) 12:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the 640kHz CBC station (CBU I think) used to be a VO station as well-VONF.Stereorock (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of interest by a radio ham 

message: Just made that change.  FWIW, they do exist.  I've worked two of them recently in fact - 3XM6JR and 3XD2Z (Serge and Alex in Guinea). Suffixes can also have one letter - N8S, BS7H and 6Y1V are just a few examples. - Ryan 20:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Three letter prefixes for ham call signs

message: The section on translators...is that referring to actual translation, or repeaters? 69.243.146.164 (talk) 02:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Translators

message: Titanic's call sign was MGY. Isn't there a list somewhere of other famous ships' call signs? It would be a helpful thing to link to this article. --Ragemanchoo82 (talk) 05:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large ship call signs? 

message: Removed the "rarely" from the Canadian listing as XJ through XO are commonly used for non-broadcast radio systems.  The Montreal PD was XJF42 and the Montreal FD was XJJ69, as but two examples.  The General Radio Service (CB in most places) used XM as a prefix for years until licenses were dropped from that service.  --plaws (talk) 19:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Canada 

message: The article says that the CSM's call sign is 33A - that can't be right, as surely that would be the call sign of the commander of 3 section, 3 platoon? Jellyfish dave (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Army Call Signs 

message: I was looking for a list of these callsign letters
*A - alpha
*B - bravo
*C - charlie
*D - delta
*E - echo
*F - foxtrot
*G - golf
*H - hotel
*I - india
*J - juliet
*K - kilo
*L - lima
*M - mike
*N - november
*O - oscar
*P - papa
*Q - quebec
*R - romeo
*S - sierra
*T - tango
*U - uniform
*V - victor
*W - whisky
*X - x-ray
*Y - yankee
*Z - zulu  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.188.75.17 (talk) 17:55, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: List of callsign letters

message: Wouldn't JY5 be the shortest callsign since ..... is shorter than .----? Nickenzi (talk) 05:56, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  JY1 and Callsign Length 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the central part of the USA, no simple rule will distinguish locations using call letters beginning with "W" from those that start with "K". For instance, the "west of the Mississippi" rule (previously cited in the article) is violated not only by WNAX (Yankton, SD) but also by WOAI (San Antonio, TX), WIBW (Topeka, KS), WHO (Des Moines, IA) and a host of others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.92.7 (talk) 19:08, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central United States 

message: "In North America, they are used for all FCC licensed transmitters.[1]"
Shouldn't this read "In the United States..."?
I don't believe that the FCC has jurisdiction outside of the US, and I see nothing in the referenced link that suggests otherwise. PartTimeEditor (talk) 03:10, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of "North America" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The redirect Callsign was usurped in February 2020 by some (likely undisclosed paid) advertising for a UK company, which I've now moved to Callsign (company), since they're very clearly not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the word "callsign".  In case anyone is wondering, here's where we stand with "call sign" vs. "callsign" links on Wikipedia, even after some editors spent years "correcting" links which needed no correction because it's clearly a well-used alternative for the same thing, and then that UK company idiocy from February until a few minutes ago caused another rash of "corrections" when really the company page should have been moved:
* call sign 16,042 (+43 call signs) (if I clicked on groups of 500 as many times as I think I did)
* callsign 522 (+70 callsign (radio), +11 callsigns)
* call letters 272
All of those include template transclusions, not just direct use.  I mention this in case, years from now, someone else claims that "callsign" isn't a well-established spelling: It's only like that because a few users went through and "corrected" everything they saw, not because other users aren't using "callsign" as a single word. --Closeapple (talk) 07:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some further confusion on the page name Callsign