Talk:Rainbow (rock band)

message: I think this page needs renaming.  I could not find it.  A search for "Rainbow" took me straight to a page on Rainbows (the things in the sky).  I had to go to Deep Purple and backtrack.  What makes this inconsistent, is that if I search for something like the work "Thunderbird", I get a page with links about cars, newsreaders and more...
:Try to find any band that has a common word for a name.  When searching for a band always include "(band)" in your search.
Anyone want to re-arrange this page so it's easier to find?  I don't want to break things....
I agree with these gyus. This page sucks...try to do some better page of rainbow PLEASE.
:There is a disambiguation page for the word Rainbow, accessible from the page Rainbow (the thing in the sky) which is indeed the first to appear when searching for Rainbow. The first page to show up should be the disambiguation page anyway, but I don't know how to modify that. But I agree this page isn't as good as it should be for a legendary band such as Rainbow. And I always thought Rainbow was a heavy metal band, not a hard rock band... am I wrong? I mean, Ronnie James Dio (and some of the other vocalists of Rainbow too) is definitely a heavy metal singer to me... --IronChris 18:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Can Rainbow really be classed a band when they never had the same line-up from one year to the next? I mean why not just release the next album as Guns'n'Roses? People only know them for their one hit "Since You Been Gone" and that was written by Russ Ballard who writes for everyone. AlfredG 24jun06
Of course they can. Many bands went through numerous changes in line-up. In fact, I think the fact that the band is really called "Richie Blackmore's Rainbow" tells us it is the barinchild of Blackmore. That's no biggie though. Candy 16:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Band?

message: What makes Rainbow a progressive metal band? Besides, it says progressive metal in the introduction, but not in the infobox, which isn't very logical. IronChris  |  (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  No idea why they have the preposterous title "progressive metal". Blackmore's band is simply a rock band. I wouldn't even call them heavy metal at all. Candy 16:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progressive metal? 

message: "Although Dio never played a musical instrument on any Rainbow album, he is credited with writing and arranging the music with Blackmore in addition to writing all the lyrics himself." Doh! What's the voice but and instrument? Someone change this before I do next week. Candy 16:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dio - No instrument 

message: Why isn't Final Vinyl mentioned in the "official" discography? Even if it's a compilation of tracks -- ie there was no specific studio date for the recordings -- there are loads of compilations that are deemed official releases. Led Zeppelin's Coda, Nirvana's Incesticide, the Dead Kennedys Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death, et cetera, et cetera. Tirolion 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Un)Discography 

message: can someone remove the picture? this is not Rainbow but circa 1991 Deep Purple !! 82.37.36.93 17:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect picture

message: Rainbow are generally considered to be one of the founders of the power metal genre, yet it isn't listed as a genre, nor is it even mentioned in the article. --E tac 07:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, rainbow is not generally considered to be a founder of power metal. Perhaps some people do, but most people consider it to be simply hard rock or heavy metal. When comparing Rainbow to other hard rock bands, it does share some more characteristics with power metal than they do, but these characteristics are also shared with many bands of the NWOBHM. Basically, if you call rainbow power metal, you'd have to include many NWOBHM-bands into power metal aswell. 81.235.136.245 19:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not saying that they should be listed as a straight power metal band, but that at least something about their influence on the power metal genre should be included.--E tac 20:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There's also the fact that Rainbow is not NWOBHM.  Even if they can't be unique, they can definitely be first.  They also featured Blackmore's neoclassical guitar style, focal in many power metal bands but completely lacking in NWOBHM.  ASWilson 04:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

text: There is absolutely no way that Power Metal starts with Manowar.  If you have to pick one band it's probably Helloween.  Rainbow definitely helped to create the blueprint though, along with Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Accept.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.169.70 (talk) 18:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Power Metal]]

message: It says that "Street of Dreams" was banned by MTV (quoting from a bio) but MTV must have played this video 5 times a day for months in 1983.
-Opalxx 22:00, 4 February 2007
: Agreed, I had never heard of Rainbow before MTV put that video in rather heavy rotation. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 20:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The claim does cite a reference, though I would question whether it's a reliable source.  An embedded comment adjoining the references says: "This website is the Official Bio of Ritchie Blackmore (the Guitarist for Rainbow) and it states that in 1983, 'The video for the single, "Street of Dreams," would be banned from the newly-formed MTV as it visually demonstrates hypnosis'".  It might be the official website but, frankly, I think it also makes for good publicity.  (If Bill Clinton published a claim that he was the best president ever, would we take his word for it and cite it?)  I've added the  tag.  Meanwhile, another source would seem to contradict Blackmore's assertion, as it criticizes MTV for airing the video. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 23:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, I have gone ahead and updated the article with the source I found.  I left the part about it being banned on MTV, but made clear that this is Blackmore's claim. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 23:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also note that the Blackmore link had been tagged with  (by me, I think) until someone replaced the tag with , which wasn't really applicable. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 23:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Street of Dreams 

message: Well, it's the name of their first LP and also frequently used when somebody needs to be extra-specific, but why is it shown on the cover of the last LP Stranger In Us All as if it were the actual name? "Blackmore left Deep Purple in 1993 and formed a new Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow." This would suggest something in connection with the new lineup, but the first reference, "Roy Davies, Rainbow Rising - The Story of Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow" seems to say otherwise (doubt that they wrote a book about Rainbow 1993-97). As the name variation finds so much parallel usage, maybe it should be mentioned somehow (if official info is available)?  ITAL 19:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow 

message: This whole article does not entirely read like a balanced encyclopedia entry. In many places it sounds more like the views and opinions of someone with an "anti-Blackmore" axe to grind.
For example:
"In 1974, Blackmore became infuriated..."
"Blackmore fired everybody except..."
"Blackmore subsequently decided that Bain was substandard and fired him..."
"Blackmore disliked his playing so much that he fired Clarke on the spot..."
"Blackmore attempted to replace Dio with Ian Gillan, but Gillan turned him down..."
"Blackmore had instigated the sacking of Glover from Deep Purple..."
Some or all of the above may be factually accurate, but without any references to back these statements up they come across as "sour grapes" and detract from an otherwise excellent article.
I would respectfully suggest more moderate wording, and/or references or quotes to substantiate what currently comes across as being very one-sided presentation of a major historical rock influence.81.154.76.27 (talk) 11:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editorial Influence? 

message: Glover was originally hired only as a producer and songwiter, because he had just had a few hits with other bands. This was when Dio was still in the band. All of this documented and can be found in several interviews, both by Dio and Glover. Check out the "Rainbow Rising: The Story of Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow" book, for instance. Dio soon realized that he didn't belong in the new, more commercial, direction and quit. The band was still searching for a full time bass player but, after a while, Cozy Powell convinced Glover (who, in the meantime, was jamming with them as a "placeholder" while writing songs with Blackmore) that all of that didn't make any sense, and that he should join the band permanently. 
Please, don't change those corrections I've made. --Purple74 (talk) 14:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roger Glover joining the band 

message: I think that it should be it's own page, as Blackmore owns the Rainbow name, and has no part in this new band.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muttdog (talk • contribs) 15:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm not sure if they are notable enough for their own page, but if they do meet the criteria go for it. J04n(talk page) 16:12, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over The Rainbow 

message: I'm assuming that no-one connected with this article is from the UK as the single 'I Surrender' isn't even mentioned (it is now). This was definitely their most successful single over here, only prevented from reaching the top spot by Ultravox and Joe Dolce.--Ykraps (talk) 19:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial Success 

message: Is that true that Rainbow attempted to hire Jobson in 1977? Various sources claim it was in 1975, before Tony Carey joined the band. 1977 was a year when Jobson worked with Zappa and then left him to form UK.
92.36.99.38 (talk) 21:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jobson 

message: imho the reference genres are 1) hard rock, 2) heavy metal 3) AOR. 
in '81 - '83 era they got definitely into AOR, being among the pioneers of that genre. i would add AOR in the template.   
--Nabi.rules (talk) 22:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre

message: (British band) seemed weird to me, so I came to request a move. Seems you just had one. How about naming the other "band" Rainbow (girl group) and this one back? The group plays no instruments and is only referred to as a "band" twice in their entire article. This band is called that four times in the lead alone.
Separating them by where they're from rather than what they are is needlessly complex and wordy, and also misleading. Makes one think there's an actual band from another country named Rainbow. And if you search for "Rainbow (band)", you're now redirected to a page of things that unquestionably aren't bands (Edward Rainbowe didn't rock or dance a day in his life, I'll bet).
Madness, I tell ya. Who'll stop it? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move back already? 

message: It is claimed both here and in his own article that Mark Clarke was a member of Rainbow for a short time in 1977, but no sources have been provided. Jah77 (talk) 10:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Added a cite from Dio's autobiography, which should be reliable enough. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:01, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Clarke 

message: Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow was debut album of Rainbow. It had "The Temple of the King" song. I saw German and Spanish covers in this page. But, I didn't see Turkish one. So, I added with references. It was covered by Müslüm Gürses, was Turkish arabesque singer on his album Aşk Tesadüfleri Sever (Love likes coincidences in Turkish), released in 2006, as Affet (Forgive in Turkish)https://www.discogs.com/release/2516076-Müslüm-Gürses-Aşk-Tesadüfleri-Sever-Mucize-Ve-Buluşma. However, my addition was unfairly deleted by User:Doctorhawkes and User:FlightTime due to it wasn't found by them according to WP:SONGCOVER and WP:IPC. I don't share their opinions and think deletion of it was big mistake. Please, you fix this injustice. For listening Turkish cover of "The Temple of the King" by Müslüm Gürses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eGk7EAFErQ Cemsentin1 (talk) 23:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covers of ''The Temple of the King''