Talk:History of Devon

message: I shall remove the celtic survivals, it is not history, even in the area of research into traditions etc. it is very very contreversial and so far I have seen no-one speak/write on the subject without either falsifying or misrepresenting evidence/research.
This aside, this would not the place for it anyway and I don't think there is any arguing that. 
Whether it should be anywhere else on wikipedia is to me also doubtful as it is unorthodox/ original research and from what I have seen goes in the same category as much new age mystic or conspirancy theories. (BM) 
: If there is any place it would be in a general england traditions type article, Celtic place names and traditions descended from celtic beliefs occour across england. And as to the DNA part this should be under a general British DNA article. 
I am also wary to this as If i remember the survey on which this was based the results for devon were not from samples but from linear interpolation of the results between Cornwall and I think it was Somerset.
I have seen these results misrepresented by a website, dewnans i think about this subject, I would like to say innocently but due to the other representations I would have to say that this person started out to purposely misrepresent evidence and on related sites I have seen downright fabrications.
This site which seems to be the core of the whole thing, i think there may only be one person who produced most of this is more of a Victorian mystic religion than anything else. It really is a frightening site and makes you wish that all websites were wiki so some real historians and linguists could re write it.
But the fact is that historians and linguists are not fanatics and are not going to spend that much time critisising complete unacademic rubbish! So in the and whatever bizzaire devon obseesed person/s is pressing this stuff will keep spreading it over the internet to those gullible enough not to question any of it.
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:As I commented below, I didn't think this belonged on a history page either. Only one user seems to have objected to its removal. I think the neutrality tag can come out too now. Walgamanus 23:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: celtic survivals

message: I have requested attention for this page, as I feel that it has been written to promote the agenda of a Celtic Devon movement which seeks to downplay the impact of Saxon settlement on Devon in order to promote the idea that Devon is a Celtic nation like Cornwall. As my own neutrality could be questioned, being the former chairman of Wessex Society, and as I feel my own historical knowledge to be insufficient to rewrite the article myself, I am requesting that it be looked at by an independent expert in their field.Nick xylas 17:46, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Peonnan was not mentioned. See changes as per your confusion between Peonnan & Posbury. Personally I would not have mentioned Peonnan at all, as it almost certainly took place in Somerset. Walgamanus 23:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah this is funny. The case for a Celtic Devon is somewhat weak or fringe in most areas. Exploring Devon's Celtic past does have merits and it is clear that people from Devon, like a lot of English people, have a substantial amount of Celtic DNA in them. However these people were thoroughly Anglicised outside of that pocket in Exeter. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to downplay this. --2A00:23C4:3E08:4001:FD83:D26C:8219:5455 (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celtic Devon