Talk:Charlie Wilson's War (film)

message: Does the film depict the USSR as blood thirsty monster bent on destruction (thank you hollywood) or a reluctant country that was begged by two succeeding Afghan presidents for assistance against the religious zealots? Many experts believe that it was not a Soviet invasion since the Afghan government begged them to come in and supperess the religious fanatics. It is rather an incursion. (The US going into Iraq (both times) was an invasion.)
Furthermore some picture of puported Soviet Aircarft shooting features F16 and Huey helicopters.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boulvard (talk • contribs) 18:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The former --Dmitry Dzhus (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical accuracy?

message: Someone named "Carter" is referred to out of context.  This should be fixed or the reference to "Carter" removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.31.218 (talk) 04:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context 

message: In the last section of this page a sentence reads "... Carter himself ..."  Why is the "himself" there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.124.118 (talk) 08:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Carter himself" 

message: There's no source provided for the Brzezinski quote other than the rather vague "1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur."
Not reading French, I can't look for this on the Le Nouvel Observateur site, but I found what claims to be an English translation of the interview, which it says is from Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998.  There's also an interesting brief piece from The Nation (Nov 12, 2001) that seeks to provide context for the interview.  Shandaken (talk) 04:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced quotes 

message: I haven't the time to flesh it out myself, but these may be of possible use in any production/development section:
*Sorkin goes from White House to front line (Sorkin writing)
*Playtone goes to 'War' with U (general info).
*Playtone marches into 'Sunlight' (mentions John Orloff as original screenwriter).
*Morrywood' lures more o'seas prod' (about filming in Morocco).
*U enlists top soldier (general production and casting info).
*Other useful links include the Google News search results for the film (covering everything from the past month), and the Google News Archive, covering dates older than a month.
Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 13:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations for use 

message: Is Sally Field in this movie? If not then the trivia section seems irrelevant or at least misplaced.
CoW mAnX (talk) 04:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I recently saw the movie and thought that opening bit with the hot tub, the girls and Wilson's reaction to seeing Dan Rather on TV reporting in full native dress from Afghanistan should certainly be added. I also did some editing clean up to fit things in better. -BC aka Callmebc (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hot tub scene and Dan Rather 

message: I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the montage of aircraft being shot down after the Afghans are given stingers shows quite a few historical videos. Aside from the CGI Hinds and one shot of a Soviet Mig taking off, I think every other piece of footage shows American aircraft being shot down.
I counted:
an A-6 Intruder,
an F-4 Phantom,
an F-16 Falcon,
and a Huey Helicopter being shot down.
None of these were used by the Soviets.
I'll leave it to someone more talented than myself to incorporate this into the article...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.4.31 (talk) 02:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical footage accuracy

message: I think it would be appropriate for all movie entries to have as a minimum the duration, and where possible other statistics about the movie.--Gciriani (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duration and Statistics 

message: The title ought to be "Charlie Wilson's War (the film)" and not merely "Charlie Wilson's War."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.150.48.222 (talk) 19:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Why are Wilson and Avrakotos noted as being composite characters?  They were real people. DFS (talk) 03:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composite Characters? 

message: Who was "Stu" supposed to be? A senior advisor? The majority whip? The senior house member from the Texas Caucus? Someone on the DNCC? Does he represent an actual person, and if so, who?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.147.210 (talk) 02:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stu" 

message: It seems to me that this section is entirely too long.  This article is about a Hollywood film, which is a somewhat fictionalized account of historical events.  As such, much of what occurs in the film is going to be inaccurate or dramatized.  We do not need a long section relating the events of those years.  A short, well-referenced, section about the differences between the film and the book it was based on, would be better than this section. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical context (again) 

message: This section "Though some have argued that US financial assistance to Afghan dissidents, including Islamic and other militants, prior to the invasion; along with a Soviet desire to protect the leftist Afghan government, helped convince the Russians to intervene, the Russians brutally murdered the Afghan President and his son, replacing him with a puppet regime, immediately after the invasion for fear that the US had secretly been collaborating with him.[31]" is not borne out in the cited reference.  No mention is made in it of the Afghan president or his murder. -- 86.85.78.174 (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afghan president killed 

message: I have removed all information from the cast section claiming that some of the characters are composites.  There is no production section in this article, hence no section that discusses the writing of the script, and what changes were made from the book.  As far as I can tell, there is no source quoted anywhere in the article that backs up the claim that these characters are composites.  Such a claim should not be made without a source, and if it is made, it should be done in a proper production section with details. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 14:24, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composite characters claim 

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