Talk:Shelley Lubben

message: This article was originally created by :User:Slubben under the title of Roxy, which can be seen here. I've cut'n'paste the user's original article to it's own individual page. No editing has been done to Slubben's article.  Tabercil 04:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Slubben" seems to be, per reasoning, the wikipedia username for Shelley Lubben. While this may (or may have) violate(d) NPOV, the article seems now to be mostly neutral. 70.144.27.53 (talk) 08:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: someone added an external link to a porn movie cover of the movie "Roxy, a Gang Bang Fantasy".  I assume this isn't per guidelines but am leaving as I don't know for sure Drunken Pirate 21:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to porn cover 

message: Google News Search indicates she is notable under the general criteria of WP:BIO Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would dispute this. I'm not sure she's non-notable, but I don't think notability is sufficiently established by Google News. She's quoted here and there, but she's only the subject of an article in one or two notable sources. ButOnMethItIs (talk) 05:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? I think the Google News search results establish clear notability. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 22:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes really. There are only 25 hits, so I looked at each one. Three were what I would call profiles, six appeared to be "fluff" profiles (all in languages other than English; I don't care enough to translate and analyze the content), six had quotes (all but one in reference to the tax bill), four were passing mentions, three could not be determined (presumably irrelevant), one was spam, and one was unavailable. I'm not intimately familiar with the criteria, but that seems awfully light. ButOnMethItIs (talk) 00:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And don't forget there's an article in the National Post (which is one of two national newspapers in Canada) which is not in the Google News results (but is present as a source in the main article). And by Googling, I was able to locate this page at the NBC affiliate in LA. And that's not counting any porn biz sources for Shelly (which would probably be on the scathing side). Individually they're thin, but I think it all adds together to provide notability. Tabercil (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: This group really doesn't have any notability separate from that of Shelley Lubben. It would probably be best to simply merge that article into this one and have "Pink Cross Foundation" redirect to this article. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 07:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: — appscholar (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 
**Comment. First off, welcome to Wikipedia! April (Garris), Jan, and Jenny all work directly with Shelley. The organization has done nothing apart from Shelley. Independent notability has not been established. Cind.amuse 11:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Merge [[Pink Cross Foundation]] 

message: I am interested in reading about her conversion story.  What made her decide to become a Christian?  Also, reference #2 returns a blank page.  Can a live link be found?  RonCram (talk) 11:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conversion story 

message: I think this article could use a criticism section.
#There's a testimony from one of her ex-employee, April Garris. She's also an anti-porn christian and yet, she doesn't have fond memories of her time at Pink Cross. You can read her testimony here. Now, it could be bollocks of course. But several reasons makes me believe Garris over Lubben. Why? Because:
#At least 2 ex-porn star that were supposedly "saved" by Lubben are now back in porn business : Sierra Sinn and Nadia Styles.
#There's a video of Lubben partying with Ron Jeremy (he signs on her boobs) which is quite contradictory withe her anti-porn crusade. (search on Youtube, you'll find it).
My two cents.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.14.206.254 (talk) 19:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  criticism? 

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