Talk:Final Fantasy VI

message: Is this true or not? I first read about it on a Retro-gaming story about Final Fantasy VI. There were some images to what would be FFVI's sequel, a game called "Shadows of the Light". The main character would be Shadow and most of the game would happen in the one year period between Kefka's growth to power and fall. Is that true? If it is, it should be on the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.142.58.18 (talk) 14:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Link please?  Google is not turning up with anything of the sort. --PresN 19:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Shadows of the Light appears to be a fanfic. Belasted (talk) 19:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's neither of them, I've found the truth. A website made an April's Fool in 2000 saying that Square planned to make this game but cancelled it, and many people believed it was truth. A now-extinct brazilian games magazine (Ação Games) made a story about it... that's why many people here in Brazil believe the "Shadows of the Light" rumor. There were even pictures of the so called sequence on the internet back then...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.142.58.18 (talk) 12:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy VI's sequel, Shadows of the Light 

message: First off let me just say don't crucify me for questioning this (I know what some fans are like) but when compared to other featured articles for games with equal or greater receptions like Shadow of the Colossus, StarCraft, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, even other Final Fantasy articles etc to same only a few, the reception is a string of "one of the best ever" style comments. Now granted I am aware of the game's impacts, legacy and overall praise and that there is one line of criticism. I'm not suggesting shoveling useless and trivial cons for the sake of diminishing creditability, yet I am rather surprised that a featured article barely reflects any other note beside undying praise making this game more of a 99.999999% than 90-93%. Stabby Joe (talk) 16:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've noticed that most of the FF featured articles tend to be like this because they were mass-written and mass-promoted in succession and in short amounts of time. With other featured article pushes the main pusher tends to focus on only one article, for a very long time, even after it is promoted to FA. But with the FFs it appears that the objective was always to take on the next numbered FF article as soon as the pushed article is promoted. So the reception sections tend not to be as in-depth as in other featured articles, maybe. It also doesn't help that every FF has hundreds of possible reviews to consider. Megata Sanshiro (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I know what you mean. I've worked on numerous reception sections for massvely popular games, sometime I've even written the whole thing to prevent it becoming a string of praise. Without having to change anything or start an edit war, I'd just insert one or two lines of genuine criticism. For example the aged graphics for the GBA version, or perhaps something completely different. Stabby Joe (talk) 11:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Why don't you just include the Nintendo Power review into the reception section? If you look at Game Rankings, that is the review that is the lowest. It gave it about a 75%. I do think it should be rewritten, but I don't think it should be drastically rewritten. It is pertinent that the game is often ranked highly in "best of" lists, specifically in magazines such as Game Informer and Nintendo Power.75.131.35.252 (talk) 21:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very positive reception? 

message: I'm unsure about whether or not FFVI being one of the few JRPGs that Yahtzee actually likes deserves a full paragraph in the reception section talking about him comparing it to FFXIII. I don't really know much about Yahtzee, though, so if it is worth mention, then please tell me. Alex.liu064 (talk) 22:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: With no disrespect meant, you're not a well known video game critic, but Yahtzee is.96.38.123.188 (talk) 01:09, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: With no disrespect meant, that wasn't relevant. Regardless of whether or not he's a big critic, his words make sense. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 23:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The point of that comment wasn't that 82.231.37.66 isn't "a big critic", but that Ben Croshaw is a well-known, Wikipedia-notable critic. - 24.180.122.2 (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yahtzee's reception of FFVI 

message: The term Graphic Director was just another term for Art Director before Square started using it. Yoshitaka Amano only did the character designs. Those that worked on the visuals seen in the games towns and locations shoud also be credited. These three people deserve recognition:
Tetsuya Takahashi, Hideo Minaba, Tetsuya Nomura
82.31.135.50 (talk) 01:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, now that you say that... I guess you can go ahead and put them back in, until someone more informed comes along and disagrees. Sorry for the trouble. The Stick Man (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Prime Blue seems to have problem with it. I don't really know much about the staff, and what he says makes sense. [TheStickMan][✆Talk] 20:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The graphic directors should be added to the credits list under Artists. 

message: I'm too much of a wiki novice to confidently edit the main article, so I thought I'd just mention what I'm pretty sure is an error.  No Final Fantasy 6 characters appear in Secret of Evermore.  This is most likely a confused allusion to the Final Fantasy 4 characters that appear in Secret of Evermore.  The reference provided only pertains to the latter bit of the sentence about the 3d polygon demo models.  If we want to list other games in which FF6 characters appear besides Kingdom Hearts, we could use Final Fantasy Disidia (spelling?), or we could say 'appeared or were referenced' and include Final Fantasy Tactics, in which one of the FF6 Characters (Setzer) does not appear, but is mentioned in some dialogue.
If I'm wrong, someone please let me know, as I've played secret of Evermore all the way through and the only Final Fantasy character's I've encountered therein are Cecil and Rosa, from final fantasy 4 appearing as shop keepers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mleem16 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never played that game, but Terra, Locke, Mog, Relm, Strago, and Umaro actually do appear in the game. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 21:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Error- Secret of Evermore 

message: Electronic Gaming Monthly's 1994 video game awards did not have separate categories for "role-playing game" and "Japanese role-playing game." It had a single category for role-playing game, which FFVI won.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.82.81.67 (talk) 15:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Error - Reception 

message: The article seems to suggest that the Mode 7 in this game was particularly noteworthy, so I think that it would be worth showing the way it's used. Perhaps while riding a Chocobo? My memory is a little fuzzy, but I remember the Mode 7 being particularly "3D". - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 21:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mode 7 image 

message: To the person in charge of Final Fantasy VI.
I have an interesting article for you. I've played Final Fantasy 6 many times and I wanted to point out that there are actually uncensored Church Crosses that are in the Localized English Super Nintendo version.
For Example the characters shield icon in the equipment menu shows a cross on the shield. Also when you're fighting in battle, The characters like Terra, Locke or Edgar defend themselves with a shield with a cross symbol.
Also in the towns of Thamasa, and the Ruined town of Mobliz in the "World of Balance" and "World of ruin", there are tombstones with the church cross carved on the Tombstones in the graveyard and at General Leos memorial tombstone. Just like the church crosses on the tombstones in "Legend of Zelda" NES.
Yes there is some religious content in Final Fantasy VI. I've always been fascinated by religious elements even in video games. I don't understand why the Nintendo company would try to suppress religion in video games which I'm against because I'm religious myself.
Anyways yes there are church crosses in Final Fantasy VI that have been overlooked in the SNES version and I think that it should be included in the localized section. Let me know if I can add the article on it. CrosswalkX (talk) 05:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you just post the article here? Also, for the record, there is technically no one in charge of this article. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 06:51, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

text: You need to actually post/use the source you're talking about; just linking to the wikia wiki on FF6 isn't the same thing. --PresN 02:53, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, it is generally not a good idea to use other wikis as sources in Wikipedia. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 02:58, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncensored church crosses in final fantasy (III) or VI snes 

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I did not check every citation. All citations should be up-to-date in terms of archiving, but there may be other problems (like the problem with Ref 79) that I didn't catch. Some one more familiar with this article should inspect the citations to make sure they are accurate. --chrisFjordson (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links 

message: I removed the mention of Hironobu Sakaguchi and Yoshinori Kitase as the game's main writers as this paints a very different picture from the actual situation back then. As confirmed by several sources, Sakaguchi came up with the plot outline but wasn't involved with the scriptwriting. This Dengeki transcript of a 2007 interview with Kitase on FF6 details the contents of the plot outline: Sakaguchi had come up with the idea of the imperial conflict and several key scenes of the story. The scene orders in the document were very rudimentary, however. For example, the instructions for the opera scenes would only read "There is an opera stage where lots of things happen." It was Kitase's job to think what exactly should happen and then write the scenario, with all team members contributing ideas. And he had three or four colleagues help out with the scenario. The situation mirrors that of FF13 where Motomu Toriyama created the crude plot outline and Daisuke Watanabe came up with the scenes and scenario (only that FF13 was much less of a team effort than FF6).Xiomicronpi (talk) 17:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Scenario writers

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message: My work is finished, I think. It's pretty succinct now. Might be worth double checking. —Deckiller (t-c-l) 22:55, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Earlier this year, someone rewrote about half of the plot summary and omitted most of the characters. They did a good job fleshing out some of the major plot beats and eliminating some of the less important ones, but the section is now kind of vague about where the major characters enter the story. I feel it needs another rewrite that keeps the same overall length and pace but reintroduces some of the omitted elements. —Deckiller (t-c-l) 21:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

text: You know, I did another pass and I rather like the summary in its current state. It's very succinct and flows quite well. Frankly, the rest of the cast can be summarized by the "Returner" handle quite well. I often find it a chore to include "X character joints the party" in plot summaries anyway. If people want to know details, they can go to the characters page. Thoughts? —Deckiller (t-c-l) 21:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. I was one of the folks who helped trimmed the plot summary down to make it similar to Final Fantasy XII. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story sections trimmed 

message: Shmuplations just posted a translation of some incredible developer interviews with the development staff in 1994. Someone should work on incorporating this into the article. TarkusABtalk 00:33, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1994 Developer Interviews 

message: I have personally run the English script through an optimizer utilizing the game's built-in DTE, and it reduces the size by something on the order of 40-60%. Space limitation is hardly to blame. The truth is, Ted Woolsey had just 30 days to translate the game, which probably meant some localization and brevity had to be introduced. Imzogelmo (talk) 07:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space limitations 

message: Do we agree or not that the legacy section needs a trim or rewrite? It’s a very famous game, and its legacy section should probably be long in the first place. Should we keep the tag, or remove it? Or Does someone want to rewrite the section? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Alert some of the all-stars as well: , , . Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to have the same problems as some other Final Fantasy articles like "He was listed as most popular character in 2010. In 2012, he was listed as the most popular story, etc" using multiple quotes. It's kinda like the issue we had with Rinoa's article. Probably the best solution is writing something like "It has often been listed as one of the best games by Square and gaming in general" in order to provide generalizations over undue weight.Tintor2 (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The legacy section looked a little questionable. I decided to do a rewrite. As to the "Retrospective" section, I'd suggest doing some summarising and cutting the quotes, and that should fix the issue. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely amazing, it’s fixed just like that. You are really gems of Wikipedians. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup Tag

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