Talk:Bastille

message: "The innovative design proved influential in both France and England and was widely copied." - This is an unusual assertion and at the least should be documented. Some examples would be nice as well.171.159.192.10 (talk) 17:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Have a look in the body of the main article for the examples and references. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copies of the Bastille's design? 

message: I don't think this picture is really appropriate for the way its used, mostly because at this resolution the men with pickaxes are next to invisible, and not clearly people. the lines on the far left that are apparently people could be anything really. 74.134.235.157 (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tweaked the caption slightly. See what you think. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  the "Men with pickaxes" picture 

message: 83.114.190.238, the bibliography in a Wikipedia article is used for works referenced in the article; as noted previously, Cottret, Monique (1986), La Bastille à prendre : histoire et mythe de la forteresse royale, is not used to support any the facts in the article, and so should not be in the bibliography. Hchc2009 (talk) 14:42, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely wrong. The 1986 book has influenced all further investigations. See Schama in particular. The chronology of research should also be taken into consideration.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.190.238 (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may have been confused by what I meant; in a Wikipedia article, the bibliography covers the works that are used in the specific Wikipedia article to support specific facts, for example in the in-line citations; Cottret 1986 is not used in any of the citations (have a look at the version before you added the additional work into the bibliography, and you'll see various citations to Cottret's 2010 chapter, but none to Cottret's 1986 book). If you're new to editing the wiki, take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources which gives more details on how to cite sources. Hchc2009 (talk) 15:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliographies... 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Under Louis XV, around 250 Catholic convulsionnaires, often called Jansenists, were detained in the Bastille for their religious beliefs
:Is not entirely true. Convulsionnaires were Jansenists, but not all Jansenists were Convulsionnaires. Convulsionarism moreover was not a belief, rather a practice. I copy this from the Wiki lemma on Convulsionnaires:
Strayer writes, "their tortures had crossed the line between the self-denial of spiritual mystics and sexual brutality. Increasingly, people viewed this strange blend of millenarianism, eroticism, torture, and hysteria as a medical problem rather than a religious phenomenon."[49] In 1735, a group of 30 Paris physicians proposed that "overheated imaginations" were the cause for the convulsions.[50]Riyadi (talk) 10:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious beliefs 

message: Wikiwami (talk) 20:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikwiwami, we can only use reliable, secondary sources on the wiki. The cited material in the article at the moment comes from Dutray-Lecoin, Élise and Danielle Muzerelle (eds) (2010). La Bastille ou 'l'enfer des vivants' à travers les archives de la Bastille., published by the Bibliothèque nationale de France. Their national library can make mistakes, of course, but it is certainly a reliable secondary source with a reputation for fact checking. The alternative you're trying to replace it with was published by Ibex Systems a communications manufacturers' representative & reseller; this isn't a reliable publisher for French history, and the website you've linked to is self-published - again, a real issue on the wiki. It's effectively original research. I'd strongly advise trying to get your research published in a reviewed journal or through an academic publisher first. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:25, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

text: Cheers! Always worthwhile reaching out to academics - they're usually pretty happy to get queries on their subjects. Muzerelle is still based in based in Paris I think. In terms of a reliable journal, the key feature I'd normally be looking for is peer review - i.e. articles or chapters being sent out to neutral specialists on the subject, who then feed back commentary and ensure quality control. I don't know if the Smithsonian Magazine does this or not, but they could probably tell you. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bastille Dimensions 

message: Here it says eight: on the Storming of the Bastille page seven. I have come across the latter figure elsewhere - can the discrepancy be corrected? Jackiespeel (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of prisoners 

message: Currently the coördinates given point to the middle of Place de Bastille, a roundabout with a monument in the middle. However, for what I understand of its location, it was actually located where the Banque de France currently has its house. The distance is not huge, about 100 metres, but there's no reason the coördinates should remain incorrect. Especially with the current coördinates pointing to the centre of a "square" named after the Bastille, one is easily led to understand that the Place de la Bastille has been built precisely where the Bastille used to be.
But, I might have understood the location incorrectly, so I'm not going to alter the location. Still, feeling /fairly/ sure I've got it right and somebody should thus probably correct the location.
Dakkus (talk) 12:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Precise location 

message: Ok 196.219.109.228 (talk) 11:23, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok 

message: Informații despre Bastilia 79.118.134.95 (talk) 07:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informații