Talk:NOFX

message: 24.247.255.138 23:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ?

message: 7" of the month club
--Zegoma beach 13:32, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: =

message: Instead of downloading the mp3s and stealing..buy a cd.  You'll find out that Franco Unamerican was on their cd as a video they put together.
::you may wish to read the official Q&A section on their website. Fat Mike explicitly says he doesnt care if people download his songs, or anyone elses, although he cautions against doing it for local bands just because they have such small distrubution channels they wouldnt be able to make money. AKMask 10:12, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: The introduction doesn't really read properly :
:'NOFX is a California, United States punk band.'
Sure it should say something like:
:'NOFX is a Californian punk band'
Do people really need to be told California is in the States? Yes there are other Californias but most are also in the States. Jack 16:40, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: Umm...how does this still qualify as a stub?  It seems to be pretty well filled out to me. Spartacusprime 07:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub? 

message: ok in response to the music video talk near the top of this discussion, let me say this. nofx has been asked many times by MTV to let them air their videos. fat mike has repeatedly refused. they even went so far as to threaten mike and say "if you don't give us a video, we won't air No Use for a Name anymore." fat mike still refused. (NUFAN are on mike's label)
people from south america have told me that they occasionally see nofx videos on MTV south america, but they don't have NOFX's permission, they just do it anyways.
videos nofx has produced include:
*Leave It Alone
*S&M Airlines  the guy who directed 'THE RING' directed this video.
*Bob
*Franco Un-american (cartoon)
*Stickin' In My Eye
*I Wanna Be an Alcoholic  self produced video shot on hi-8 video, 30 second song
i'm not sure if that list is exhaustive.
i've heard of nofx being played on Much Music as well, though I've never actually seen it myself. (don't watch much music)
Yah, I've seen Stickin' In My Eye and Franco Un-American on The Punk Show. Woooh, there's a lot of capitols in that sentence. So yes, they do play some videos on Much Music, but not on the main shows like Much On Demand (or so I know)
There's also a video for Hobophobic (Scared of Bums) but I'm not sure if it's official or not. It should be pretty easy to find on Limewire, etc.
april 21st 2007
i live in canada and our music station (MuchMusic) has aired NOFX videos. they even made a big deal when they first aired "franco un-american". Fat mike has no beef with muchmusic as he even hosted a 30 minute punk show with eric melvin once. it was sometime last year. they picked 30 minutes of videos and talked about each one. JohnEcakes
The ABC in Australia air NOFX videos on Rage 49.195.96.207 (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  re: music videos 

message: * #12 "Please Play This Song on the Radio", #13 "Warm". -- Sy / (talk) 07:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack for [[The Chase (1994 movie)]] 

message: we should use either all of their real names, or all of their common nicknames in the info box for consistency. the average nofx fan won't know that Aaron Abeyta is El Hefe, but the average fan may not even know their names to begin with so I think it shouldn't matter. Right now the article for El Hefe is titled Aaron Abeyta, but the article for Fat Mike is Fat Mike, and not Michael Burkett as it probably should be.
I'd like to propose that we use the following names in the infobox and for the band member's individual pages:
*Michael Burkett
*Aaron Abeyta
*Eric Melvin
*Erik Sandin
I think we should have redirects from the following names for each band member as well, that point to their respective articles:
*Fat Mike
*El Hefe
*Melvin
*Smelly
one of the reason's I think we should use their real names is because they all have multiple nicknames. thoughts?
--Nofxjunkee 06:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to use a combination. Not many people know the real name of Fat Mike or Hefe, but everyone knows Eric Melvin and Erik Sandin. I think it's more a matter of what's most recognizable, not uniformity. Kane5187 19:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  names in the infobox 

message: I took The Decline out of the album chronolgy (cos it's not an album), but then found that some EPs are included in the chronology (e.g. Longest Line), and others are not (e.g. Liza & Louise).
The Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums guideline says:
The chronology section should link to the previous album on the left and the next album on the right. (Only studio albums, usually excluding lives, compilations, singles and EPs.)
* For first albums the left box (the "Last album=" field) should be left blank. 
* For latest albums, the right box (the "Next album=" field) should be left blank, or with a " . . . ". 
* For final albums, the right box (the "Next album=" field) should be left blank. 
There are plenty of EP, live album & comp album articles on Wikipedia that don't follow this, so I guess we need a consensus. Do we include EPs in the album chronology, do we give them their own chronology (as I started doing with The Decline) or do we follow the guideline above?
If we include them in a single line chronology, they all need to be in there (even those without articles).
Gram 17:07, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say we separate them. nofx has a lot of records. --Nofxjunkee 19:34, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and created a separate line of chronology for the EPs. Kane5187 19:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Album chronolgy

message: Whether "...in rock and roll." or "...in punk rock.", this needs a definite source:
:sometimes referred to in the underground music press as "the funniest band in punk rock." 
mat_x 18:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They have been also called, by many critics, one of the funniest bands ever, since a great deal of their songs has humorus material either by content, or at least by title.
mat_x 09:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Press description

message: "(leaning to the left, like the majority of politically concerned musicians)"
The first part goes without saying, but I think that maybe the second half should be left out? That doesn't really pertain to NOFX, and is kind of hard to back up... Any thoughts? 
:How does the first part go without saying? NOFX are libertarians by any modern American definition. NOFX's economic politics are generally slightly right of center (see: "Where's my slice" on the album Ribbed). They are strongly libertarian on non-economic issues. Calling them "leftists" seems incorrect. Maybe "anti-Republican" would be more accurate?71.10.74.4 (talk) 23:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased statement? 

message: However, Fat Mike once did an interview for Guitar World in 2003 giving his opinion 
  on the pop punk bands rising at that time
I believe that sentence was lifted from .
--notyouravgjoe 10:17, 25MAR06 (UTC)
:link no longer working... hope this was resolved!Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagerism?

message: First post...hopefully I do this right...  I don't agree with this statement: "On March 14, 2006, an EP entitled Never Trust a Hippy was released, including the song "You're Wrong," which in which NOFX announced their suport of terrorism - Jihad, Islam holy war. That song cost NOFX quite a few core fans, due to the fact that there's no joke in the killing of innocent people in the name of religion."
* There is no citation for this. NOFX does not support terrorism. Idjit 16:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support for terrorism? 

message: Anyone have any information on this member?   Seems quite silly that the link for Dave Allen on the NOFX artical redirects to the NOFX article. I say get rid of the redirect unless someone can write something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Idjit (talk • contribs) 23:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Allen 

message: One of the trivia items spends some time discussing the controversy between NOFX & Bikini Kill.  It seems a little one-sided, being that later on Kathleen Hanna's next band (Le Tigre) released a song called Deceptacon that is pretty much a reply to NOFX's song ("..Your lyrics are dumb like a linoleum floor..").  Well, at least that's what I've read, unfortunately I don't have links to any sources.  Would be a good addition if someone can find a source, at least to fill out that bit of trivia.</BR>PUnkX22 05:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bikini Kill / Kathleen Hanna trivia 

message: Aren't they Straight Edge?--69.113.131.124 20:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty decidedly not. -Mask  07:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straight Edge  

message: I changed the origin of NoFX's name, being that in any interwiews and on their website, they state that they didn't get their name from the Boston punk band named Negative FX.  They said they just made up the name.
Alkaline Trio Rocks 20:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And I'm changing it back, being that in the link that was referenced from their website, they state, "We just kinda ripped off the name from an old Boston band Negative FX." Also, in the band history section of the website, they state, "I said No FX after a band who had put out one record and broken up called Negative FX. Mike agreed that it was the best one so far." --Onorem 03:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wow, haha I'm glad someone else caught that most obvious of mistakes. I wonder how long the first guy was reading the website for. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.164.30.51 (talk) 23:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of Name

message: The use of images not in compliance with our fair-use criteria or our policy on nonfree content is not appropriate, and the images have been removed. Please do not restore them. -Mask? 07:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use images 

message: It has already been established that they are sourced to be Skate punk. The question is should this be listed in the intro paragraph. Look at other articles like Ramones, Bad Religion, and The Clash. All of those bands have multiple genres listed in their infobox, but are simply reffered to as the primary genre of punk rock in the intro paragraph.Hoponpop69 22:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Ramones and The Clash fit the definition of standard punk rock, while NOFX don't. Its important that skate punk be in the lead, because they are famous for popularising that style of music; it should also be mentioned in the lead (with the citation) their influence on other SoCal skate punk/Warped Tour/pop punk bands who have gone on to much success because that is something they're highly notable for. - The Daddy 22:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that you have both undoubtedly needlessly violated (or nearly violated) WP:3RR - I've changed the intro to merely say rock. Until this is resolved I recommend it stays that way.--danielfolsom 22:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

text: NOFX is punk rock. As for skate punk i don't know how good the term is. They have made references to skating in their songs/album art/music videos but they are also about a lot more than skating. The lead should say punk rock because that is the most accurate way of briefly describing what they are. If there is a "definition of standard punk rock" that includes Sex Pistols AND the Ramones, then it definately includes NOFX as well, because those bands are very different from each other in a lot of ways and the similarities they share NOFX share with them. Unless the definition of standard punk is "it's from the 70s." Arguably NOFX are pop punk but only to a certain extent (many NOFX songs, nay albums, are way outside of conventional pop punk). Lead should say punk rock. infobox should say punk rock, skate punk, pop punk. (Justinboden86 15:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The question isn't whether they are skate punk or not

message: This is the stupidist Wikipedia talk page I have ever seen. WHO CARES. BURNyA 17:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Section archived as it has nothing to do with improving the article. --Onorem♠Dil 17:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jumping Jesus on a Pogostick 

message: On the contrary, Wikipedia does not play host to a band forum for a genre war. Neither does the talk page. This should have ended long ago. BURNyA 17:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Content edit wars are no good, but trust me... I've seen worse.--Isotope23 talk 18:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Forum 

message: This definitely seems like vandalism. And not sure how to fix it, so some help/someone just doing that would be ideal. 
Aodell (talk) 20:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title over graphic? 

message: Unfortunately, this article does not meet the criteria for a Good Article. Some of the major problems that need to be addressed are:
#It must be thoroughly referenced. Everything that is not common knowledge (most of the article) needs to be sourced.
#References need to be formatted correctly (each needs at least a title, publisher, url and accessdate). See Wikipedia:Citing sources.
#The lead should summarize all of the key points of the article.
#Placing entire sentences in parentheses breaks up the flow of the article. There is no reason that these sentences would need parentheses.
#Copyediting would help with some writing issues. Punctuation is a problem in some places, as is verb tense. The article should be written consitently in the past tense. Examples: "It would be their final album on Epitaph..." -> "It was their final album on Epitaph..." and "NOFX had signed to Epitaph..." -> "NOFX signed to epitaph..."
#It needs to be "broad in coverage". For example, the 1990s section is just a list of albums. More information about happenings with the band would help.
#The "Music style and influences" should be expanded. Three sentences isn't long enough to warrant an entire section.
#The beginning of the "2000s" section should be expanded. Single-sentence paragraphs should not be used.
#For such a colorful character, a quotation or two from Fat Mike would make the article more interesting to read.
Those are the biggest things that stand out. (1) More information so that the article doesn't read as a chronological list of albums and (2) references will be the biggest work. I feel that the changes required to get this to GA level are fairly substantial, so I am failing the article. I hope to see it as a GA some day, and I hope this feedback helps. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First line wants major work. Fails a Good Article in the first couple of lines for me. Perry Groves (talk) 15:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Not to be aggressive or confrontational, but considering the vast amount of info on this NOFX wiki I fail to see how you can characterize this as not being a good article. Wiki's standards are there for a reason - to ensure quality of info - this wiki is watched closely and arbitrary rules about syntax strike me as counterproductive. This wiki article is absolutely the best source for information on NOFX to those totally unfamiliar with the band. Clearly it could be improved (esp. wrt sourcing), but instead of denigrating the hard work put into this article (not by me btw) why not do that work yourself? 71.10.74.4 (talk) 23:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: About what I expected... guy hit and runs with his negative comments never to return or offer helpful suggestions/help out in editing the page himself. (repsonding to myself, but finally got myself a user name. I agree, that article needs serious work (though there is a TON of valid info already).... just I find it annoying that you just point out the flaws and don't bother fixing $H17Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Fail

message: The article says it's pronounced No-eff-ecks, which I take as meaning the F and X are pronounced separately, as letters. I've almost always heard it pronounced No-uh-fex, with the FX pronounced like the word "effects". Not a big deal, but it seems wrong to me. Anyone have an opinion? Carlsotr (talk) 09:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WRT to "No-uh-fex", that is simply Fat Mike refusing to articulate no matter what. As I mention later in the discussion page, NOFX contains a diphthong meaning it can be spelled with any vowel you please, but it will basically always make the same sound (enunciation?). I've seen NOFX live more times than I can remember, and FMike always seemed to pronounce the name "no-eff-eks), though as I said before -- there really isn't a "correct" way to pronounce their name. Just don't say "No Effects" and it's all good in the hood.Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

text: the right way to say the band's name doesn't really matter, but it is "no-off-eks": 04:32, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the written renditions here simply reflect the speaker's accent. Spoken / sung examples of how Fat mike pronounces it can be heard at the start of The Death of John Smith from The Longest Line, or in the Backstage Passport theme. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: He pronounces it "Hi, we're 'no - uff - eks'" during the intro (imo), but I've heard him pronounce the name many diff ways. Keep in mind he's often drunk, on benzos, coke, etc71.10.74.4 (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Would like to point out that the name NOFX contains a hidden "diphthong" -- the "eff" or "uff" or "aff" etc, are all ways of spelling the same sound. I'm going to try to link to the page, but I'll prop fail. :(.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel#Monophthongs.2C_diphthongs.2C_triphthongs hope that works and is within Wiki standards of practice. Best of luck guys, and keep on rockin the NOFX (LOVING THE NEWEST "The Longest EP", and Coaster was mindbogglingly good) imo... but I digress.Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 14:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

text: several small edits to promote clearity.Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The wording of the sentence regarding the release of "The Longest Line" and "White Trash, Two Heebs..." gave the impression that WTTHAAB was released before TLL when TLL was released over 5 months before WTTHAAB. I sorta fixed it, but somebody that's more articulate than me could definitely improve the wording more.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.74.4 (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed "Epitaph Years" Discography Mistake 

message: First, "Conan seemed to find their performance displeasing or unprofessional" is entirely subjective, and is actually the opposite of my own impression. This should either be removed or backed up with a source/evidence.
The following sentence "The band briefly pursued an "anti-Conan" riff...."  is extremely unclear and I would delete it if I had a clue what it meant. Please clarify or delete.
Lastly... The verse;
"We all know George Bush is an imbecile;
He loves Dick [Cheney] but he hates homosexuals;
We're sick and tired of the embarrassment;
The whole world wants us to get a better president" 
is actually a slightly sanitized version of the usual alteration to the verse (and is only used live as seen on they're most recent live album and reports from fans). Usually the last line would be said;
"...We're sick and tired of the embarrassment;
the whole world wants us to kill the ("our?") fucking President."
71.10.74.4 (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Media, wrt Conan O'Brian appearance 

message: Could we get an IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) pronunciation? Because "no-ef-ex" depends on your regional accent. Quark1005 (talk) 12:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA pronunciation? 

message: In the "Epitaph Years" section, it says:
"The following year, the band released its first live album I Heard They Suck Live!!. In the liner notes the band explicitly rejected the advances of major record labels and radio airplay, stating "We've been doing fine all these years without you so leave us alone!" Punk in Drublic is now considered a classic punk album by fans and critics alike."
This is inaccurate. The liner notes mentioned are instead from the "Heavy Petting Zoo" album (released in 1996), and NOT "I heard they suck live!". Plus the part that says that "Punk in drublic is now considered a classic punk album..." should be on the preceding paragraph (the one that actually mentions the album). It's confusing the way it is right now.
--189.121.29.252 (talk) 04:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I Heard They Suck Live!" Liner notes 

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message: I think it should be added that they have been banned from playing in the US .Getmotionlessscaredinwhite (talk) 17:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source confirming this statement? Meatsgains(talk) 18:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

text: A little bit of reading goes a long way. From the third paragraph of the 2015-present section: "In June the band stated all of their U.S. concerts had been cancelled and they had been "effectively banned" from playing in the United States.[57]". RF23 (talk) 00:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  stating that NOFX has been banned from playing in the US 

message: Any way we could change the profile picture? It's been here for over a decade and I feel like it does not represent NOFX. They look like a ska band in that picture. Fat Mike looks completely different now. The picture is 13 years old, I think it's time for a current one.
--2A02:908:1DA:F60:E1CA:2158:B563:BB97 (talk) 14:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile picture 

message: Crass' 20-minute song which is the second longest punk song is called "Taking Sides", not "Yes Sir, I Will". Latter is the title of the record.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Sir,_I_Will 94.21.200.16 (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2019