Talk:Catch wrestling

message: I think a lilttle should be added aboot the diferences between a 'shooter' and a 'hooker'. Plus also, something aboot Cornish wrestling. Lancashire wrestling was 'collar and elbow' wrestling with submission holds, Cornish wresltling had kicks.(Halbared 09:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Article currently does not include enough about the relationship between catch wrestling, american folkstyle wrestling, and american professional wrestling. PLEASE CONTRIBUTE. -- Jimmy C. 23:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Catch with Pro Wrestling 

message: After reading this article five times, I still don't know what "catch wrestling" or for that matter "hook wrestling" is.  This article gives a history of catch wrestling without any sort of explanation of what it is, and how it compares to other forms of wrestling.Ramsquire 21:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree. The image is more informative than the text. -- James26 07:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: errr... I agree, or at least easy linking to other articles to explain this one?? Hmm... could be I just know too little about the sport as a whole? I doubt it though. Mathmo Talk 09:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Entire Article Needs to be Re-Worked. 

message: Where does the "Catch" part of the name come from?
The name catch wrestling originated in Lancashire,england where they used the method to describe an art where catching an opponent in any manner without restraints practiced in mainstream contests.the original name was catch-as-catch-can which basically means a style using freeform grappling.
:Can the above user please place the above in the article and expound on it.  There is no description of catch wrestling in the article, also can someone who knows explain what "collar and elbow" is and give examples.  To the non-wrestling enthusiasts, the artice is hard to follow as is.  For example the article says catch wrestling is the ancestor of modern professional wrestling.  However modern professional wrestling includes punching, kicking, mat work a la Greco Roman/Olympic wrestling, submission holds, throws, slams, and leaping and jumping.  The article should state which of the techniques in the above list, traces its origin to catch wrestling.  Ramsquire 23:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great job on the article Rorybowman! ---Marcus- 08:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. Technically I understand "catch-as-catch-can" to be the folk version with "catch" the professional version. I've seen the more informal "catch-as-catch-can" label applied mainly to folk wrestling of the mid-1800's in the United States, Ireland and Scotland, but I would need to check on this. I'll try to find some more authoritative printed references on a library trip someday, but it may be that the famously vague and imprecise history of wrestling terminology makes this something for a more serious academic to determine. Rorybowman 14:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is it called "Catch" wrestling? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Frank Gotch Vs Georges Hackenschmidt 1908.jpg

message: There are some people here that seem to believe that there is no relation between Catch and Pro wrestling when the latter evolved entirely out of the former ... please do not delete my inclusion of the subject of Pro wrestling into this article , some here have already mentioned the need to emphasize this historical relationship .  Pro wrestling has its sole roots to Catch , this is common knowledge . 24.98.64.117 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 16:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The bastardization of Pro wrestling 

message: I understand that Professional Wrestling is derived from Catch wrestling, but that is not why I made the edits. Some people on here claim that Professional Wrestling, especially WWE, is modern-day Catch wrestling, when it is in fact not. To say that they are equal to each other is similar to saying that bare knuckle boxing is equivalent to professional boxing, which would be the false. BKB has a different set of rules than professional boxing, not to mention other differences such as gloves, equipment, etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zacariasd (talk • contribs) 19:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The bastardization of Catch Wrestling

message: Instead of arguing soley on behalf of Catch other important matches between Judo and Catch proponents need to be mentioned because there are plenty more where Judo prevailed over Catch and vice versa . Wernerchem (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 16:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need more instances of Judo versus Catch matches . 

message: Do we need a "practitioners" section? Other wrestling and grappling styles do not seem to have such a section. If so, I don't know why Erik Paulson, Sakuraba, Josh Barnett, and countless Japanese shootfighters aren't already on it. FlowWTG (talk) 20:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Practitioners section 

message: Catch wrestling is called "catch" because as you shoot in for a take down or your opponent shoots in you are always looking to catch your opponent in a submission. The fact that WWE calls its self the new catch wrestling is acceptable because the tactics they use are similar to actual holds. I urge people who argue to look up some of Matt Hughes old fights and Josh Barnett. Both are perfect examples of catch as catch can wrestlers. 
Scientific wrestling is an excellent site to discover the true base of wresting. Single, doubles, spins and drops all have been used in wrestling; Olympic and free style in the past decade however they have been given catchy nicknames and terms. I urge anyone who is looking for a practical way to teach their BBJ buddy that its not the end all to be all to go and find there local black belt in submission wrestling or catch wrestling to find out really how much the Brazilians have over looked.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.120.84 (talk) 02:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "catch" wrestling  

message: I've just scanned and posted a copy of Amateur Wrestling (published in 1925) to the Internet Archive. On pages 17-21 it has the Catch Wrestling rules as they existed back then. I probably won't have time to integrate this in to them in to this article, but if anyone is interested the material can be found here: http://www.archive.org/details/AmateurWrestling. -- Scarpy (talk) 15:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amateur Athletic Union Rules for Catch as Catch Can Wrestling (circa 1924) 

message: It would be preferable to have under the sub-article title one line to mention the main article (and a link to it) which also exists on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts). I'd do it myself if I knew how to format it properly. (178.164.137.62 (talk) 22:44, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixed Martial Arts 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: While the martial art originated in the UK, the majority of catch wrestlers now are not English. A great number of practitioners are American, and there are a few very notable Japanese catch wrestlers as well. Given that the subject of this article is more commonly practiced in America, according to WP guidelines wouldn't we use American spelling conventions instead of British English conventions? BasicsOnly (talk) 16:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  program vs programme 

message: After a brief skim, some of the syntax seems odd to me, as if English wasn't the first language of the writer or if the sentences have been translated from an app. I plan to circle back when I have the time and smooth out the structure.Halbared (talk) 16:22, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidy-up