Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles/Proposed naming convention

message: This convention is largely the way I have named the few model pages I've started so far and the way in which I think most people seem to name es. However, it should be useful to have this to refer to when people aren't sure exactly what to do. I can't think of any improvements that need to be made, it all seems comprehensive and clearly written as it is. Good work. 999 08:50, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

message: When disambiguating by year series, is it possible to separate years by en-dashes, rather than by hyphens? —Vespristiano 02:21, 2004 May 26 (UTC)
:I'd rather not do it in page titles; I'm not sure that en-dashes are even supported characters in them (anyone?) and I suspect that they'd be less obvious for users.  However, I would support the use of them in the article text. —Morven 05:30, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked, and en-dashes are not supported in page titles. —Morven 08:56, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguating by year series 

message: I noticed there are entries for General Motors Astra and General Motors Vectra. GM is not a marque unless you count the EV-1. I know by having GM entries, we overcome arguments between Opel, Vauxhall, Chevrolet and Holden. But since these cars are developed by Opel and usually have a pan-European launch where all cars are badged Opels, then can the entries not be for Opel? Stombs 00:09, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
: Agree, that makes no sense. However this gets kinda' trickey whe you remember the Astra was a Vauxhall model before it was an Opel... It'd be nice if Wikipedia let one article have multiple names, not just redirects. -- stewacide
:: You're totally right, Stewacide: I forgot about the 1980 Vauxhall Astra. Maybe the Vauxhall Astra page could have an entry for the Mk I, then a link to the Opel Kadett E/Vauxhall Astra Mk II on the Opel page? We do run into a similar problem with the Holden Astra, which was originally a Nissan Pulsar clone before it became the Opel Astra A/Vauxhall Astra Mk III, so there we could put in a brief entry for the days when it was a Pulsar, and then reference Opel afterwards. (It does get confusing, especially now the Australians are saying they'll have 'Astra Classic' and 'Astra' lines after the model changeover. And the Brazilian Chevrolet Astra, too, which got facelifted last year rather than becoming an all-new model as it did in Europe.) I reckon we change the GM pages back to make and model, based on Opel, and make these additional pages for the anomalies in each marque. Stombs 00:25, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
::: Not necessarily that complicated.  We simply use a redirect (with a category!) where there are no substantial changes between marques (as in Plymouth Neon and Dodge Neon) and use the most "popular" model as the main page.  In other cases (like the Nissan 200SX), we use a disambig page if the same name was used on different models.  In still other cases (Think Vauxhall Cavalier), we build whole pages for the model and simply point to the other content as needed.  It'll all work out. 
::: BTW, here are the offending pages:
* General Motors Agila
* General Motors Astra
* General Motors Corsa
* General Motors Omega
* General Motors Vectra
* General Motors Zafira
:::--SFoskett 19:04, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
::::This works for me, SFoskett. If I understand correctly, we make the above Opel pages, but we have unique ones for the Vauxhall Astra, Cavalier and Carlton (where the model series do not parallel Opel) and the Holden Astra (which was a Nissan Pulsar once), where we point back to the Opel one? Stombs 11:18, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)
I recently took care of the Corsa and Zafira (making Opel Corsa/Opel Zafira the main articles) so I believe all six are proper now.  I also recently moved General Motors van to Chevrolet Van, with the former and others (GMC Vandura, Chevrolet Express) redirecting to the latter.  --Vossanova o< 15:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GM

message: To steal some text from Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft):
:For article titles, use the most common unambiguous name. A central tenet of wikipedia naming conventions is to give articles names that will be have the greatest chance of being directly linked to within an edit window of another article. Alternative names should be listed in bold type on or near the first line of the article as well as in the "aka" field of the infobox if it is used.  See also Wikipedia:Google test.
:Create redirects from all the more common alternative names. For example, the main article for the Dodge Caravan should be at Dodge Caravan; redirects to it at Dodge Grand Caravan, Plymouth Voyager, and Chrysler Town and Country.
:Never use a generic name like "Chrysler minivans" or a hybrid name like "Dodge Caravan/Plymouth Voyager" since these violate the Wikipedia policy of using common and familiar names.  See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions.
We need to get this policy up on Wikipedia:Naming conventions.  It's been discussed recently at Lincoln MKZ and Chevrolet Silverado, among others...  --SFoskett 14:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restarting this