Talk:Papier-mâché

message: Lots of inaccurate data is circulating on papier-mâché in Kashmir Valley (India). It is claimed that it came to Kashmir from Central Asia or Persia. Neither is true and solid data is anticipated to be published on this in a year or two. Also technically Kashmir is the Central Asian region of India.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:A180:F700:171:866B:5EAD:A369 (talk) 05:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

message: *Other historical artistic uses of papier-mâché.
*Current use of papier-mâché in Art
I can lay hands on some issues of Sculptor or some such magazine talking about the latter, but not this week.
Hello.  I've eyed this Wikipedia page with interest for some time.  I've considered attempting to contribute to the article.  But in the end, it has a sort of self-serving feel to it so I haven't.   But this inquiry about current use of paper mache in art is my chance to at least offer some information.  I developed a non-traditional paper mache technique in the early 1980s by introducing cloth to the process.  I detailed my methods in my book, "The Simple Screamer: A Guide to the Art of Papier and Cloth Mache" (1984, Gibbs Smith Publisher, Layton, Utah) where I coined the phrase "Cloth Mache".  This book was in print for more that 22 years and greatly influenced the way paper mache is currently done.  If you google paper mache and my name, Dan Reeder, you will find dozens of references to my books and my methods.  I bring this up only to point out that there is a semi-revolution going on out in the paper mache world with the kinds of art projects being made.  I love this medium and believe that it has unlimited potential in the art world.  I'm not bringing this up to promote my own work or to sell anything (although I do sell books on the subject).  I just think my hybrid method is and has been an important contribution to the subject of paper mache and worthy of mention.   You can find more information about paper and cloth mache as well as galleries of works made with my techniques at my site, www.gourmetpapermache.com.   Thank you for the opportunity to finally add my two cents to this discussion.  Danmonsterman (talk) 02:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Needed Information

message: Some information about the Chinese precursor--new to me. 
And wasn't p.m. or something like it used for making the first stereotype plates in the 19th c.?DGG 04:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: A look at the edited image that was deleted from article by original contributor.
Gregorydavid 00:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello CulturalUniverse, I had a look at the blanked image and then the History Page and saw that a caption had been cropped off. This seems to have happened before where sources shown on images are cut off by Wikipedians. Gregorydavid 01:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edited image?

message: A form of papier-mâché had existed in China for hundreds of years until a much stronger version (including glue) was patented by Henry Clay of Birmingham England in 1702. It was a common technique for making dolls in the 19th century, before plastics became available.
The Henry Clay linked was born 75 years after papier-mâché was patented. Since this is clearly the wrong person, I'm wondering if the right Henry Clay has a page on Wikipedia - I checked, but couldn't find him. I've removed the link, but if someone else can find (or feels like making) the right page, could you please create the right link? --Muna (talk) 12:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have two sources that say 1772, so I changed the date.  I'll see if it's the right guy and link him if so.  scot (talk) 15:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henry Clay 

message: Papier-mâché Carnival floats are paraded in occasion of the Carnival in Italy. A basic structure of wood, metal and metal wire is covered in papier-mâché. Once dried, details are added. The papier-mâché is then sanded and painted. Carnival floats as those built in Viareggio (Tuscany, Italy) can be very large and comprise a number of characters, props and scenic elements all organized around a chosen theme. They can also accommodate several dozens people, including the operators of the mechanisms. The floats can in fact have movable parts, like the facial features of a character or its limbs. It is not unusual for local professional architects, engineers, painters, sculptors and ceramists to take part in the design and construction of the floats. The most experienced designers and builders are usually regarded by the local community as artists and it is not uncommon for them to enjoy a local celebrity. Once the Carnival is over, due to the impossibility to store or preserve them, the floats are usually torn apart and sold as props to circuses, theatres, movie makers. One example is the use of such props in the filming of Federico Fellini's "I Vitelloni" (1953). Among the other Italian cities that build papier-mâché floats for their annual Carnival parade are Ivrea, Cento and Acireale and Massafra.
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*http://www.viareggio.ilcarnevale.com/viareggiocarnival.cfm
*http://www.carnevaleacireale.com/en/papermache.html
*http://viareggiocarnival.co.uk/theart.html
*http://www.viareggio.ilcarnevale.com/viareggiocarnival.cfm
:I've moved this here for discussion.  The viareggiocarnival.co.uk link was previously removed as inappropriate.  None of the links meet WP:V and WP:RS.  What can be verified from the book? --Ronz (talk) 16:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved for discussion: Papier-mâché Carnival floats in Italy

message: Thanks a lot for the help. It's very difficult for a new guy in Wiki, like walking on a minefield. Anyway, I now do understand your point of view. I'll better the article and put more accurate references (pages included) pointing to the books I have access to. I suppose it would be worth it. I'll submit the changes to you first if you don't mind. Thanks for replying so soon! Regards Gaius3.Gaius3 (talk) 17:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this article is a bit of a minefield at the moment. Sorry about that.  Fluzwup is doing a good job reworking the material and properly sourcing it. --Ronz (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hi Ronz!

message: Material retained from lead for future use follows:
:Carton-pierre (French for 'stone cardboard') is papier-mâché that has been decorated to resemble wood, stone, or metal, and is used as decoration.
Mavigogun (talk) 13:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: The article is in need of a full re-write; as written, it contains large guide-oriented sections and otherwise lacks encyclopedic character.   I will undertake rectifying these issues over the next few days; developing or expanding the content will not be addressed by me at this time.Mavigogun (talk) 13:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: Papier mache is among the most renowned crafts of kashmir. The craft represents a rich tradition of craftsmanship that dates back to the reign of Zainul Abideen Budshah (1420-1470 A.D) originnaly the art of papier machie confined to kari qalamdani, the making of pen cases. With the passage of time however, the craft developed and recorded a great perfection. Papier Mache as of today covers the whole range of poignant products that keeps the customers alluring throughout the world. Flower vases, Office screen, Trays, Book racks, powder boxes, coaster sets, bowls, bells, Easter eggs, trays are the few of the decorative and used items produced in papier mache. The art products are embellished after the delicate process of preperation of mould use pulp and application of colors and designing. The designs that very often recur in making of papier mache objects include Gul-andar-gul (Flower within Flower) Hazaara, (The thousand flowers, Gul vilayat (The dear flower), kashmiri Boun (The chinar tree/Maple Leaf tree) etc.   
 Proficient artisans even render the mughal miniature painting in papier mache, creating an object of rather an unsurpassed value. Gold powder is also added to some of the objects to make them more alluring.
There are lots of god and quality artisans of papier machie who are having a valid Artisan Card granted by the J&K handicraft department.
Among them some of the Artisans are: 
M. shafi Baba & Sons
Bashir Ahmad Joo
Mohiddin Baba
Qasim Ali
Hafizullah Baba
Hussin Baba  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safeerai hussain (talk • contribs) 08:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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