Talk:Main Line (Long Island Rail Road)

message: Thanks for creating the Main Line article: something I've wanted to do for some time but never got around to it. But I really don't like having the article talk about the route and also the Ronkonkoma Branch service as well. For example, not all Ronkonkoma trains travel on the Main Line once they're west of Jamaica. I prefer the arrangement that was done with the (now named) Atlantic Branch: description of the route and its stations—while having the service areas that talked about it (City Terminal Zone and Far Rockaway Branch) be separate articles. The analogy I'm going with is the New York City Subway-related articles: services and lines are separated. Tinlinkin 09:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While that split might work for the Main Line, it would not work for most of the services, whose names are identical to the names of the lines. Anyway, according to the maps and schedules, inbound "Ronkonkoma Branch" trains magically become "Port Jefferson Branch" trains at Hicksville and "Hempstead Branch" trains at Floral Park. This is not similar to the NYC Subway, where one train keeps the same service name along its entire route. --NE2 09:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Line and Ronkonkoma 

message: There was a Babylon station between Farmingdale and Deer Park, opened in December 1841 and discontinued on March 14, 1842, when Deer Park opened and stages began serving Babylon from Deer Park. --NE2 00:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Babylon station?

message: I find it confusing that Penn Station is not included as part of the Main Line. The article makes it seem as if LIC is a terminating station for the Main Line, and that one might need to transfer from there to get anywhere else. Distances for stations are usually given from Penn, not Jamaica. Far more travellers board or disembark at Penn than at LIC, and the article obscures this vital point. I see no source that says LIC is the beginning & end of the Main Line. --JimWae (talk) 21:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Main Line terminates in LIC because it's terminated in LIC since before Penn Station was built. Odd to call a 100-year-old station a Johnny-come-lately, but for the LIRR it is. Of course, Penn is a heck of a lot more important to the modern railroad, but it isn't part of the Main Line, whose physical definition is listed on various documents, including government records of ownership, such as the one about Amtrak owning Penn. It's not really confusing. Penn isn't part of the Main Line, period, even if most Main Line trains (and LIRR trains in general) use it.oknazevad (talk) 23:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penn Station 

message: This edit removed many of the links to http://www.thelirrtoday.com/, which has become invitation only. This website was a useful source, including diagrams of the LIRR's interlocks.
If you can, please comment on why this changed (it's possible, it's a temporary problem).
If you can, please comment here on other sources of LIRR interlock maps/diagrams.
It be possible to use annotated Google Maps zoom-ins with colored overlay lines to replace the Interlock maps. — Lentower (talk) 08:20, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Still "invitation only" for me, right now.  I reverted it back. — Lentower (talk) 21:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was switched to invitation only in July 2014. I recall that the site's operator said that he doesn't know when, if at all, he would get the site running again. He is User:Cluefinder42 on Wikipedia. Epic Genius (talk) 01:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  The website is in 'hibernation' currently as I don't have time to maintain it at the present moment.  It is temporary and should be back soon, though I don't have a specific timeframe as to when it will be back (hopefully in the summer).  The archived posts are still there if you'd like to look at them, you can get access at http://lists.thelirrtoday.com.  Cluefinder42 (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the link. Epic Genius (talk) 16:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: @Cluefinder42: Thanks, I have received an invitation, which I have accepted. , if you have a Google account, you can ask for an invitation as well. Epic Genius (talk) 21:58, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the update & the invite offer.  I'll pass on the later for now. — Lentower (talk) 22:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Okay. I'm fine with that. The LIRR Today links can become references when they do become public again. In the meantime, I will tag  for other LIRR Today links around Wikipedia. Epic Genius (talk) 02:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Would make the transition back easier if you wrote a template, that could be toggled, before you do more of of the [Subscription required(help)] adds.  If you want to go this way, I can suggest two templates to write, used in different ways. — Lentower (talk) 03:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't definitively know when Cluefinder will make LIRR Today active again.  Epic Genius (talk) 14:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: A search showed 262 articles that Cluefinder's blog could be referenced in. So it's a lot of edits to reflect the need for registration.  If these edits include a template, to change the status from required to not-required in one edit to the template, instead of doing hundred of edits to all these articles again. The syntax might be |registration=, instead of adding |registration==yes, then maybe changing it in the future to |registration=no. Or/and use of  as an inlinte-tag at the end of that style of citation.  Yes, writing and using the template(s) is a bit more work, but much less than doing all those re-edits. — Lentower (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds good. Epic Genius (talk) 01:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Search results for "The LIRR Today". Epic Genius (talk) 01:38, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Also, I suggest switching to  because sending out the Google account request to him is free. Epic Genius (talk) 14:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes,  is more accurate. — Lentower (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
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