Talk:Hobart-class destroyer

message: A what? Anyone? My Google search turned up only this article for that phrase. I think it needs to be reworded and/or linked to relevant article. Grant | Talk 15:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably it's the procurement process recomended by the Kinnaird Review which lead to the formation of the Defence Materiel Organisation. There's a link to a PDF of it on the right of the screen at: http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/about/index.cfm However, I've got no idea what this process actually is and this term needs to be clarified. --Nick Dowling 09:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Kinnard selection process"

message: I'm not certain that the "see also" list in the article is of much use. At the moment, the two 'origins' of the design are mentioned and discussed in the article, and the section appears to be becoming a laundry list of modern destroyers. As such, I think it should be removed, or at least, pruned aggresively. -- saberwyn 21:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As there have been no comments in six months, I've removed the list. -- saberwyn 21:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "See also" list 

message: I've just reverted IP edits suggesting that HMAS Melbourne (AWD 4) is on the cards. While the ABC source makes this claim, a near-simultaneous and more detailed AdelaideNow article quotes the same minister as saying "...at a point in the future, government will consider whether it will build a fourth.", which, combined with other statements in the article, makes it appear that the fourth ship is not on the table at the moment. Neither of the new articles names the potential ship, so any treatment of the 2006 Navy League of Australia suggestion as fact is incorrect. -- saberwyn 21:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that the Government was seriously considering ordering a 4th destroyer in 2008 (in part in response to the economies of scale being offered by the manufacturers of the radar system if a 4th system had been ordered) and the Federal opposition was pushing for this (though they signed the order for 3...) but this was ruled out as a result of the Global Financial Crisis. The window of opportunity to obtain a relatively cheap - though still very expensive - ship closed a while ago. Given the cost of buying 12 new subs and 8 large frigates as specified in the Defence White Paper there's next to no chance that there'll be a 4th AWD. I'd bet money on the 'future frigates' being the Melbourne class though. Nick-D (talk) 11:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Without the context (and working from what looks like a blog copy of a paywalled article), I don't think this makes a strong enough claim for the article to say that AWD 4 is under consideration. To me, Smith's reply to the unspecified question is politicalese for "We're not looking at it at the mo. We might, but we haven't yet". -- saberwyn 23:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth AWD

message: Overdue and over budget: $8bn destroyer plan in crisis. Not sure how to best integrate the info from this story into the article, so flagging it here. Probably going to be pretty important in regards to the redistribution of hull blocks (including up to five overseas to Spain). Is this a case of "here we go again"? -- saberwyn 09:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, though anything in The Australian about the current government needs to be be taken with a lot of salt, so I'd be a bit cautious about labeling the project in 'crisis' at this stage - especially as it's normal for large-scale military projects like this to run into problems and be delayed (the DMO's side of the alleged dispute with BAE is missing, for instance, and it isn't noted that BAE only got the work for this project at short notice when the original contractor in Cairns admitted that they couldn't actually do the job - after being selected for it!). The change in the construction arrangements should definitely be included in the article. Nick-D (talk) 11:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article in ''The Oz'' 

message: I've just uploaded a rewrite of the article. In addition to the expansion, addition, rearranging, and copyediting of material, most of the major changes include
*Citing material to third-party sources instead of the AWD Alliance, RAN, Aus Govt, andor manufacturer of the cited component
*Removal of the ship list (because anything we can put in that table at the moment is going to be inaccurate and speculative, or at best cited guesswork)
*Removal of "See Also", as its just a short list of other destroyers
*Removed much of the "External Links", as they either had little-to-no relation to the subject of the article, didn't contain anything that wasn't in the article, or in one case was so specialist and obscure that, although related to the Hobart class, would not help readers in understanding the subject any better.
If I've missed anything, or you think something I've pulled out should be put back in, feel free to do so. This is the last revision of the page before the rewrite. -- saberwyn 03:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Those changes look fantastic - great work. Nick-D (talk) 04:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major rewrite 

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message: I've just removed :File:Australian AWD.jpg from the article and tagged it for deletion as an orphaned non-free-use image. My reasoning is that this copyrighted image is a low-quality CGI render of a warship that bears no connection or resemblance to Hobart class beyond being a "this is a futuristic destroyer" placeholder used in the early stages of the project, before designs were even solicited.  -- saberwyn 10:56, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of non-free-use image 

message: Older forms of the terms antiaircraft, antisubmarine, antiballistic missile, antiship, and antitank are now completely outdated and ignorant to use anymore. Just ask people from the Canadian Forces, the Royal Canadian Navy, the RCAF, and the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, and the USAF, and the manufacturers of the AEGIS Defense System, the Standard Missile, the Harpoon missile, the Tomahawk missile, the Sikorski SH-70 Seahawk helicopter, the Sea Sparrow missile, the Martin Mk-41 MLS, and so forth.47.215.211.115 (talk) 09:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antiaircraft 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: DDGH 39, 41, and 42 -- what happened to 40?  71.235.184.247 (talk) 14:35, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hobart and Brisbane have inherited the numbers of the Perth-class destroyers of the same names (where 40 was also skipped for some reason - though our article says it was applied to a US sister ship of this class which was acquired as a source of spare parts). 42 is the next in sequence. Nick-D (talk) 21:49, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pennant numbers 

message: Some of the information on this page could do with an update. The RAN now refers to the class as guided missile destroyers, with AWD being used to refer to the program they were developed under. Several sections also appear to talk about the Hobart-class as though they are still in planning; for example, the first paragraph and the 'Design' section. I suggest the following changes:
- Update the designation from AWD to guided missile destroyer (DDG) to reflect current nomenclature.
- Update portions of the article which refer to the construction of the destroyers in future tense.
- Reorganize section headings to better reflect a class that has already been constructed and add an operational history section. Combustible Vulpex (talk) 07:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs to be updated -