Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Road junction lists/Archive 1

message: I am in full support of the standards here, although it will take work to implement (that may not occur until the NC stuff finishes in October!) --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  23:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Exit lists

message: If no one objects, I'll place an October 14 (at 11:59 PM UTC) closing date for consensus-collecting for the initial proposal. That way, if anyone still has questions/concerns about the proposal over the next week or two, then these can still be discussed. --TMF T - C 15:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This proposal is now a guideline. Further changes should be discussed here on the talk page. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 03:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closing date for initial proposal 

message: You can use  to make the directions appear in small caps. For example,  Interstate 40 . This helps set off the direction from the rest of the text, and also mimics how the direction appears on signs. (For non-CSS browser, the text will appear normally.) —Scott5114↗ 05:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the look of that. Good find. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 19:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't this violate Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Directions and regions? --NE2 23:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I've seen, directions on exit lists have always been capitalized here on Wikipedia, so this was included as part of the guide. As for that manual, honestly, I don't think many people knew it even existed. With that said, I'll reserve further comment on this issue for when others comment on this. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 00:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm... I'm relatively sure I've seen both  and . But I think the latter is an older style, with the former being preferred. I would personally prefer  over EAST, because the proportions are closer. —Rob (talk) 18:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I would also like to note that on physical road signs, the cardinal direction is always capitalized (even with the new Clearview type face), but I don't know if that applies here. —Rob (talk) 18:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could be wrong, but I think  is a relatively newer style for the signs.  I remember this style started to appear in PA in the early to mid 1990's.  It's also the style I found at 2004 edition of Standard Highway Signs when I created some of the directional signs which can be found here.  As a side question, does anyone know where to find the new Clearview font, and is that what PA is using on their newer exit signs? — Homefryes Say•Do 10:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a fairly recent thing:  --NE2 15:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small-capsing directions 

message: I recently added an exit list table to Interstate 77 in Virginia, and the order of the mileage and exit number columns doesn't seem right. The most important information is the exit number and destination, so I would place the current exit number just to the left of the destinations. Obviously the old exit numbers would be to the left of those, and the mile column after location.
Is there a standard separator between highways and destinations? I used a slash when there's an overlap and a comma otherwise; the guide here uses a slash between any routes and a comma between destinations. Is this the intended usage? What happens if a street name applies to more than one route, or several street names apply to one route? --NE2 23:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to flip the mileposts and the exit numbers, that's fine. As for the second question, yes, this is the intended usage. If multiple names apply in a scenario, then include all of the names, within reason. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 00:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of mileage and exit number columns

message: I've been adding cross-column rows to indicate when exit numbers change (see Interstate 77 in Virginia).  Is this a practice we can continue?  I think it helps majorly so that instead of just seeing the major concurrency, it's very clear that the exit numbers change.  Comments? --MPD01605 (T / C) 16:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me. I can put a little sentence or two about this into the ELG if needed, as this is the best way to show exit number sequences that are altered by a concurrency. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 18:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it was different (this one) until it was edited.  But yeah either way, a note for that is important.  --MPD01605 (T / C) 19:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When I responded, the most recent edit wasn't made yet, so I was referring to your version (which looks slightly better than the current one, I might add). Aside from that, I'll add a note to the "scenario" section. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 19:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Umm... see Kennedy Expressway#Interchanges for what I've been doing. Basically I have the little sign that says "This exit and all following ones use this interstate." Not ideal, so I may switch over, but give me your opinions regardless. :-) Also, this is where the "Cook" and "Chicago" in the left two columns look really odd - and I'm still 6-7 exits from being done. :-p —Rob (talk) 11:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks pretty good.  I would think that lists that aren't one specific interstate like I-77 or I-40 would be very difficult because of the changes in exits, but you figured out a pretty good way to indicate that.  I like it for non-dedicated expressways. --MPD01605 (T / C) 15:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exit numbers 

message: We're moving this to Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Exit list guide. any objections? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed move