Talk:Czenglish

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When I was in Prague, I saw graffiti scrawled on a wall that read, "Safe the Nature!"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.219.41 (talk) 03:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

message: This is another wonderful "czenglish" example. In the 90s every pub or restaurant advertised for tourists "Czech kitchen" (literal translation of "czech cuisine" = česká kuchyně). But nowadays in most cases owners of restaurants are using proper term "Czech cuisine".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.234.201.49 (talk) 11:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech kitchen 

message: Is this really notable? Difficulties with foreign languages has people all over the world, this is just normal. Why I don't see Skenglish, Spenglish, Jaenglish, Czlovak, PoliCZ etc? (Frenglish is ok because it's hybrid not just inability to learn ...). --Adam Zivner (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You do realize that Spanglish, one of your examples is an actual article right? The DominatorTalkEdits 17:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: as is swenglish and, of course, engrish (engrish links to other "xenglishes" as well). i haven't heard of czenglish before, but have noticed the phenomenon.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.243.156.59 (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability? 

message: This article really looks poorly written and is frankly gibberish and is very irrelevent. Is there any consesnsus on applying a speedy deletion notice? --Île_flottante~Floating island  Talk 18:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Speedy deletion doesn't require consensus. And the article is (partially) sourced, so you'll have to take it through AfD. - filelakeshoe 20:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedy deletion? 

message: I would say that pronouncing w's as v's is more common amongst german and russian speakers. Czechs usually have no trouble making the /w/ sound, but they do tend to over use it by making no distinction between /v/ and /w/ generally. In my experience it is common to hear "Slovak Republic" pronounced like "Slow Whack Republic", "Vet" as "Wet" and "Veil" as "Whale". Therefore I'm removing the statement about /v/ and /w/. All the phonology stuff is unreferenced anyway, if anyone has any sources (in either language) that would be nice, I can't find any on the internet... - filelakeshoe 17:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  /w/ as [v] 

message: i've corrected the part about some /r/s being pronounced as thrills to most, because it comes from the czech phonology, also, the part about alveolar n did not make much sense as [nk] is impossible to pronounce.
also, the role of vowels could be added, it may not hinder understanding too much, but czech has only five of them plus long equivalents, while english has, well, slightly more.
Muflon 83 (talk) 22:32, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: the limited vowels + final devoicing really can hinder understanding actually. /æ/ and /ɛ/ are both realised as /ɛ/, and lead to e.g. "head" and "hat", or "bed", "bad", "bat" and possibly even "bath" being homophones. The only other vowels which are noticeably absent are /ɜ:/ and /ə/, but these being substituted by whatever Czech vowel would be used in the spelling don't really cause confusion. - filelakeshoe 22:46, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  my edit