Talk:The Dark Is Rising Sequence

message: In that notes section it reads as follows: "Will Stanton's eleventh birthday is momentous in the book. In the Hollywood version he is 13 to 14 years old (and American) in order to help distinguish him from Harry Potter, a later creation but earlier international film star who learns on his eleventh birthday that he is a wizard."  Harry Potter is not the star he's the character.  I can't seem to edit the note, if someone else could that would be great.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.213.251.246 (talk) 19:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: I have merged the infor from the pages for the indivdual books in the series onto this page. Most of those pages were only stubs, and in this way a fuller artticle will result. I am about to convert the separate pages into redirects. DES 23:55, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like it if each of the books to have their own entry, as THE GREY KING does already. that includes THE DARK IS RISING itself (the book, not the cycle named after it). ***Ria777 19:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: To see the history of the text on the individual works, consult the history of the separate articles at Over Sea, Under Stone, The Dark Is Rising, Greenwitch, The Grey King, and Silver on the Tree, all of which are now redirects to the series article. DES 00:06, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like it if each of the books to have their own entry, as THE GREY KING does already. that includes THE DARK IS RISING itself (the book, not the cycle named after it). ***Ria777 19:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I've been pouring over Welsh, Celtic, and British mythology trying to figure out definitively who the character "The Lady" in the Dark is Rising series is mean to represent. With all the meaning and significance behind all the other characters, I can't believe she's not also significant historically and mythologically. The most obvious guess would be that she's "Morgaine." Or perhaps "Viviane"? Any thoughts?
:Personally I always thought she was closer to the Lady of the Lake, that is, the elemental essence of England. But that's just me; she's an archetype, something that all those women contain a piece of. -- Metahacker 01:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  She's very much an archetype; in all the time I spent reading the books and studying medieval fantasy of the British Isles etc. etc., I haven't found a single person upon whom she could be based.  She comes across to me as a composite though--guide, protector, but frail.  I'll stop babbling now!  Mohsin.Siddiqui 19:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who was "The Lady"? 

message: I was under the impression that the grail in the stories was not the Holy Grail of legend but a different cup.  Applejuicefool 16:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to go back and re-read the books to confirm this, but I believe it was actually the same grail as is referred to in Arthurian myth etc. (Merriman Lyon = Merlin, and so on); generally the Arthurian grail was supposed to be the Christian grail, and so I'd assume it's all in line? Mohsin.Siddiqui 19:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Two years late but I don't think it matters!  From Over Sea, Under Stone when Merriman is translating the parchment to the Drews: "...the grail, made in the fashion of the Holy Grail, ...".  It's quite clear that this grail is not the Holy Grail.  I'd change the article if I could think of what to write instead... anyone? Sparrer (talk) 02:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grail? 

message: The "Random Tidbits about the Stanton Family" section seems to be more apt as a part or sub-section of the "Characters" section, no?  It's really not substantially different from what's included there, and although the characters don't show up in each and every book (neither do the rooks for goodness' sake), they are pretty central to a lot of what goes on across the series.  Again, I obviously need to read the series again, but I feel like this change would be a good one. Mohsin.Siddiqui 20:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random bits 

message: I've been trying to remove the links on this page that redirect back to this page and find other double redirects - I didn't realize I wasn't logged in earlier when I made some changes, but those were me as well.  Lcarscad 20:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Double Redirects

message: 1. I think we need a summary for the entire series.
2. I think perhaps a section describing the themes?
3. We need to move the stanton family to the character section
4. We need to decide whether or not we are going to tell those newbury succession people to take a hike  or not. We have a standard for the books where we redirect all of the books to this one page. Now The _Grey_King has its own page though because people were concerned about the newbury succession page. But I think that it is too inconsistent. Jpittman 16:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple Changes 

message: Although it is important to the overview of the series, need we really reveal Merriman's identity here? These are wonderful books and why spoil Cooper's surprizes for the reader? Kids do read Wikipedia, right? earrach Sept10th,2007  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earrach (talk • contribs) 20:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP: Spoiler. --Thnidu (talk) 18:23, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merriman SPOILER 

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replies: text: 2012 Note. Two days later, the contributor of the image slightly revised its file: . That is not exemplary. I don't know whether it is adequate. --P64 (talk) 20:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Darkisrising.jpg

message: Does the symbol seen on some of the covers (circle with two perpendicular lines inside) remind anyone of the Gnostic symbol?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.209.15 (talk) 18:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What does the gnostic symbol look like? It hasn't reminded me of it because I don't know what it is. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 22:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might not be Gnostic specifically, it just reminded me of the little circle with two crossing lines in it that can be seen on that cover of The Dark Is Rising.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.209.15 (talk) 19:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is just the mandala - the cross in the circle - the design of each "sign" that Will has to collect to put on his belt in Dark is Rising itself - an old symbol used in many religions, including Gnosticism and Buddhism - Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 20:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gnostic Symbol

message: In Will's bio, it says that he is the seventh son of a seventh son, yet when I counted his siblings, including Tom, he appears to be the tenth.  Does anyone know why this is?Anpan11 (talk) 23:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He's the tenth child but seventh son, that's the difference and what makes him by tradition the 'magic' or 'lucky' one. In this respect girls 'don't count'! Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 13:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Will's Sibling Number

message: I don't think he 'patronises' John Smith's establishment.  We only see him there once and later we find out that he didn't know John Smith was an Old One until John gave himself away by talking to Will in the Old Speech...
Sparrer (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely 'patronises' in this context just means he brings his horse to be shod there? By tradition a smith cannot refuse to shoe a horse which needs shoeing, however much he may be 'for' or 'against' the person bringing the horse. Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 16:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but there's no indication that it's a regular thing, could be he just happened to be passing. Sparrer (talk) 16:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed - the whole point is that a smith by tradition cannot refuse to shoe a horse, whatever he may think of the rider. Equally if a horse need shoeing, its rider [or Rider!] will find the nearest smith. Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 13:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Rider 

message: Shouldn't the titles within the series include the publication dates? I visited this page to find out when this series was published but nowhere (except for a brief reference to The Gray King winning the Newberry Prize in 1976) is there a reference to when these books were written. I know nothing about the series (which is why I was looking it up) or I'd help out here. SophieTorkleson (talk) 02:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Publication Dates

message: I have a reasonable knowledge of Welsh grammar, and the explanation of the odd ?incorrect grammar in the Welsh couplet makes little sense to me, so it is reasonable to assume it means even less to a non-Welsh speaker. The explanation seems a bit laboured and off-the-point (though no doubt written with best intentions.) Would it be reasonable to simply give the translation, and maybe comment that the Welsh used is anomolous, rather than the current passage on the correct usage of the verb Bod? Jellytussle (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: since no-one has objected in the last 14 months since I made the above comment, I have edited the section for simplicity.Jellytussle (talk) 16:15, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of the Welsh in the Rhymes section 

message: :work in progress imported before emergency save (interrupted)
[...]  --more or less "completed" nine months later; notes deleted or transferred to the next section --P64 (talk) 22:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unready Material 

message: Today I revised The Grey King heavily, altho limited to the lead, infobox, and footer. (Among winners of the U.S. Newbery Medal it may be the only one whose book article does not overtly cover the plot.)
Comments solicited. See also Talk: Tir na n-Og Award and Talk: The Grey King. --P64 (talk) 23:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Grey King 

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message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Alice Stanton (cricketer) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 21:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: The topic of this article:
* is written by a British author
* about British legends
* in a British setting
* involving The Matter of Britain
Under MOS:TIES "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the (formal, not colloquial) English of that nation. [...] In an article about a modern writer, it is often a good choice to use the variety of English in which the subject wrote, especially if the writings are quoted." Recently an author adjusted the American "Artifact" to "Artefact" but the article still contains other words exclusive to the American dialect. I propose:
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replies: text: I agree. I have added an appropriate template to this talk page. However I am not sure if this template is supposed to be added to the article itself. I have also corrected a few of the obvious Americanisms in the article. Feel free to correct others as you find them. Although, I think we should not correct Americanisms that are part of direct quotations, as a few of them seem to be. MPS1992 (talk) 00:43, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Varieties of English 

message: Should probably add discussion of/links to the BBC's new radio adaptation, either here or on the The Dark is Rising page --Bbolker (talk) 01:29, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC radio adaptation