Talk:Nadezhda Alliluyeva

message: Was there an actual marriage ceremony?  Otherwise I don't think that the above is a correct statement.  Smallbones 16:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "The couple married in 1919"

message: there's more words in the references section than in the actual article =_= 124.176.1.12 23:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's very strangely written.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the long quotation in the notes about the "public spat". We do not know how the events of that evening influenced her suicide. It was not unusual behaviour by either of them, and we certainly don't need a long extract like that.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:30, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: references

message: I think most people agree it was suicide.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suicide 

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message: "He continued working, and from 1924 to 1928 was in charge of the electric cable network for Leningrad."  
Since this section deals with the aftermath of Alliluyeva's death in 1932, it seems out of place to say her father continued working and was in charge of the network from '24-'28.  Perhaps that information should be moved to the "Early Life" section and cut completely from "Aftermath." OneEarDrummer (talk) 03:46, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be that the dates are wrong. Probably best to cut out completely.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. OneEarDrummer (talk) 04:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath 

message: She was born on September 1901 and married him on February 1919..so that’s make her 17 5.52.124.242 (talk) 19:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop Vandalism 

message: The article draws from Red Fortress: History and Illusion in the Kremlin  to expand upon how a narrative was constructed around true nature of Alliluyeva's death:
"To help keep the true nature of Alliluyeva's death from being released, staff who worked in the Kremlin at the time were either dismissed or arrested"
The problem with this framing is that its misleading about the time, she died in late 1932 and the source then conflates it with the Kremlin Affair in early 1935 which led to the mass dismissal or arrest of many Kremlin staff. Her death is also not the primary reason why many Kremlin staff were dismissed in 1935, it is attributable to a separate event called the Kremlin Affair, which the book refers to it as. The affair encompassed multiple things, but as the book later says many staff were dismissed for ties to the old regime, nepotism, and gossip about forbidden topics like Alliluyeva's death and concerns about collectivization. "Several birds at once were lined up for the coming stone. As everybody knew, there were still staff in the Kremlin who had worked for the palace in the days of the last tsars. Such retainers, whose appointments owed nothing to the new regime, were no longer regarded as reliable." 
Essentially, I don't think its accurate to say that the Kremlin staff were purged to prevent the truth about Alliluyeva's death from circulating. Gossip about Alliluyeva's death was punished under slander, however the majority of staff were purged primarily for reasons listed above and other reasons listed within Red Fortress: History and Illusion in the Kremlin. Padlocks (talk) 06:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The majority of Kremlin staff weren't dismissed because of Alliluyeva's death