Talk:Shriya Saran

message: Why Shriya Early Career always descrice her beauty by ip users, also add their's phone number name and etc.
Shriya's year of birth always change by ip users for no reason.
:Information must be verifiable, and requires a reliable source - that is, not a blog. Please do not add information that cannot be verified.
:In addition, the article needs to be neutral.
:Also, please use the edit summary.  Chzz  ►  10:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Vishalshriya.jpg

message: The article uses a lot of sources (websites) which hardly can be considered or reputable. Morever it uses  somewhat excessive citations for things that hardly need an explicit citation at all (like her movies in the lead). Some cleanup and more critical handling of sources might be advisable here.--Kmhkmh (talk) 03:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition to that the missing citation tags for plain undisputed fact like her birthplace that can be directly looked up on her website are a bit silly.--Kmhkmh (talk) 17:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's true that her birthplace is cited in the infobox and it's wrong in the article so I could have fixed that myself but this is a BLP so there is nothing silly about tagging WP:V non-compliance. If editors want to add material they need to cite sources. If they don't they should expect someone like me to tag it or remove it. The reason I decided to look at the sourcing is because someone added 'She is Kayastha(Srivastava) by caste'. Is that the case ? Who knows but someone will need to fix the mess that is generated by editors who won't follow mandatory wiki policies like WP:V. Citing one source at the end of an entire section while people add whatever they want to that section without citations isn't good enough. Statemenmts get separated from their citations. Verifiability is compromised. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

text: And Kmhkmh, why would you revert without reading the source ? The source does not support the statements. That is why they are tagged. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Ah, there's a new source. I'll put it back. It contradicts the infobox source though for the place of birth. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:10, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The source I used is linked from her personal website and mirrors the information there, so I'd assume the basic facts regarding her birth, education, etc. should be correctly stated in that source. Btw. i did not revert your edit, but just edited the paragraph.--Kmhkmh (talk) 18:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, sorry, I guess the infobox info needs fixing then. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

text:  Well it is true that editors should provide a source when adding content, but that does not mean they need to provide inline citations for every undisputed and fact, which is supported by the general sources anyhow. I understand that in an article like this one with many sometimes questionable changes from a large variety of editors there is a reason to be picky. However this article now develops citation style that is borderline ridiculous, like having a citation for all every single movie she's made. In other words there should be some sane balance.--Kmhkmh (talk) 18:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair points. I don't think the lead needs any refs. There shouldn't be anything in the lead that isn't in the article per WP:LEAD and the refs should be in the article body. This article isn't about anything controversial so refs in the lead seems like overkill. I'm not sure what you mean by 'general sources' but I guess you might mean the external links. I'd agree that you probably just need one source for all of the films. If it's an inline cite it should be named and reused so it will just appear once in the refs list. The article does seem to have an awful lot of sources given its size. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: With general sources I refer to anything (considered reliable), that is listed under references or external links and which is not an inline citation/footnote. Apparently some sources we currently use carry conflicting information, but probably worse many of the cited sources are not really reliable und often just (private) compilations of (unreliable) web material. Unfortunately I fell for that myself, the source I provided though being linked from her website is just such a compilation rather authorized information by Shriya Saran herself. I will clean out some of that stuff and reduce it to the actual information on her website. If somebody else wants additional information he should provide a realiable source.--Kmhkmh (talk) 18:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there are a lot of poor sources. The other thing that I notice is that the article has a lot of things like "opposite Pawan Kalyan", "starring debutants Ritesh Deshmukh and Genelia D'Souza in lead", "again alongside Tarun and Trisha Krishnan" and "with Zayed Khan and Vivek Oberoi which saw Abhishek Bachchan doing a special appearance". Since this is a biography of Shriya Saran and no one else I'm not sure why it matters who else was in the films. That info seems to belong in the articles about the films rather than here and it's probably already there. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I overhauled the section now and removed everything not being source by her official website. Personally I prefer to use inline citation/footnotes for paragraphs since it usually nicer for reading, but due to constant changes here I can see that having for footnotes for individual sentences might be useful, so I left that pattern as it was.--Kmhkmh (talk) 19:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources and excessive citations

message: I made this edit to the section, explaining in my edit summary that .
My edited version (A)
In 11 January 2008, a Hindu organisation based in Chennai lodged a police complaint against Saran, objecting to the outfit worn by her during the 175th day celebration of her film, Sivaji: The Boss.http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jan/16shriya.htm In a complaint, the Hindu Makkal Katchi (HMK) alleged that Shriya's outfit had 'offended Hindu culture'.http://www.andhravilas.com/movienews/48445/6/ Shriya public apologised to Tamils and Hindus, saying it was a "mistake", and that she had "great respect for the tradition and culture of Tamil Nadu [...] I was shooting for a Hindi film in Thanjavur. I came to the function directly from the shooting, [...] I was unaware of the repercussions because of the attire I wore during the function."http://www.chitramala.com/bollywood/dmk-prefers-restraint-to-dress-code-9087.html
It was changed back by   with the edit summary, 
The prior, and now reinstated version (B)
In 11 January 2008, a Hindu organisation based in Chennai lodged a police complaint against Saran, objecting to the outfit worn by her during the 175th day celebration of her film, Sivaji: The Boss.http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jan/16shriya.htm In a complaint, the Hindu Makkal Katchi (HMK) alleged that Shriya's outfit had 'offended Hindu culture'.http://www.andhravilas.com/movienews/48445/6/ The complaint was officially taken in by the police and is currently under investigation. Shriya is the fourth actor, after Kushboo, Shilpa Shetty and Reema Sen to face the fire of political parties and organisations in recent times. Shriya then tendered an unconditional apology for “wearing inappropriate skimpy attire”. Shriya has tendered a public apology, she said:  
She also stated that: 
Furthermore, she explained about her action: 
I stand by my reasoning;
*The quotations in the current version fail the WP:V policy, because they are not directly referenced
*I fixed the referencing
*I used direct, attributable quotations
*I removed the 'cquote' template which gives this matter undue attention; in the context of the subjects whole life, the incident does not warrant such prominent attention
*I removed the names of the other actresses, because that information is not relevent to the subject of this article, and the connection with other incidents appears to be original research
*The phrase  does not make sense, 
*I removed duplication.
Per WP:BRD, because I Boldly made this edit, and it has been Reverted, I now bring this to the talk page for Discussion; please indicate below if you support or oppose version (A) above.
Many thanks,  Chzz  ►  03:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am inclined to revert to version A, but in the interests of WP:BRD I will first mention that of course version A is more appropriate for an encyclopedia. The style in version B of using extravagantly formatted quotes, along with a bolded emphasis, is not suitable for Wikipedia. Also, the effect in version B is to give an WP:UNDUE emphasis to the incident (if the incident merits such emphasis, it will be because of analysis in reliable sources of the significance of the issue; the quotes in version B are not part of any significant event). Johnuniq (talk) 04:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The added emphasis and weight given to this statement in version B is POV and unencyclopedic. The reverter's reasoning is also incorrect, as a. undue weight should be removed elsewhere, not readded here, and b. just because it is referenced doesn't mean it's encyclopedic. We don't have a 10-section bit on Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky's controversy in Clinton's article, because it doesn't belong there. If there was one, we would remove it, not expand the issue to other articles. —fetch·comms 17:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I have restored version A due to the policy-based arguments presented above. I have also tweaked the wording and removed the subheadings in the "Controversy" section since an encyclopedic article has no need to draw attention to individual and rather petty issues. The "Controversy" section needs to be rethought (we generally do not use them; if the material is significant according to reliable sources, integrate it with the article). Johnuniq (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy with your edit, Johnuniq – I understand your re-wording to avoid "scare quotes" and repetition of ref. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  07:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The A version by Chzz is definitely the good one! kotakkasut 18:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obscenity charges 

message: Isn't it a little too early to re-nominate? - Amog | Talk • contribs 09:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  You said it looks great. What else is needed? BollyJeff || talk 12:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggestions like the extra picture might help - Amog | Talk • contribs 13:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: note: Considering the backlog at the GAN review page, I guess it isn't too early after all. Article can still be made even better in the meantime! - Amog | Talk • contribs 13:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

text: We could try and use already uploaded pictures like this - Amog | Talk • contribs 19:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GAN 

message: The "nominations" sub-section says that she was nominated for "Filmfare Best Female Debut Award" for Awarapan and is unsourced. I doubt whether there will be nominees for "Best Debut Awards". They are given specifically by choosing one actor by the jury. Also what is the necessity to mention "Debut films - in each language" under "notes" in the Filmography table. Everything is understood from the table itself. --Commander (Ping Me) 15:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct about the absence of debut award nominations, thanks. Since she is known for working in several languages/industries, I just wanted to highlight when she started in each. Those links are to the industry pages, which are different from the language pages, so I see room for both. If you still really object, you can remove them. BollyJeff || talk 15:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an opinion. You can mention the industry debuts, if it's a notable filmography or a partial one. Since this being a full filmography table I think it's not necessary. I can find links to various industries that she has acted in other parts of the article. --Commander (Ping Me) 16:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmfare Best Female Debut 

message: Someone please help identify which films of hers are the most notable and why. Specifically those not already listed in the text, especially from 2004, 2005, and 2010, or any other "obvious" ones that were missed. Oh, and reliable sources will be required. BollyJeff || talk 16:38, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: regarding rowthiram here. Can you please include the best reference from reliable sources such as Sify and not from unknown article!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ason27 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  - BollyJeff || talk 16:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most notable films 

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