Talk:Cod liver oil

message: Just a note, as someone disputed the effects of Cod Liver Oil. I know several studies have shown positive effects of fish oil on depression and exhaustion associated specifically with Multiple Sclerosis the latest on depression was published by the University of Oregon. I have no comment on the other benefits as I have not personally researched them. 
205.188.116.10 21:04, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a note 

message: OK, this article definitely needs work. It is more or less an advertisement, and contains statement after statement of unverified and very probably false information. Listing it as a candidate for deletion didn't seem all too wrong, but since some company apparently manufactures "cod liver oil", I thought Wikipedia could use a real article on it. 
I am aware that the last person to edit this has added a lot of POV, but the earlier editors also couldn't agree on many things, such as why people don't take cod liver oil anymore (and without any references, no-one can know whether anyone has even done so in the first place - I'm certainly not very sure any such thing has ever been normal).
: As children in small-town 1950s USA, my sister and I were indeed given cod liver oil for a while as a dietary supplement; we hated it. Anyway I'm glad that this article is being criticized and objected to. Much of the text smells like an attempt (probably commercially motivated) to establish as "fact" certain statements about nutrition for which no basis is given, if any basis even exists. DSatz 23:25, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
:: And you say this because as a kid you were forced to eat something you hated? O_o  ok, too bad your parents didn't stuff with you mcdonalds and coke. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.197.20 (talk) 05:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fermentation actually is not limited to the production of alcohol.  Fermentation as a means of preserving food was used world-wide before modern-day canning or refrigeration was invented.  The fermentation that was used to produce fermented cod liver oil was lacto-fermentation.  Other examples of lacto-fermentation include sourdough, yogurt, traditional sauerkrauts, and so forth. references Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig, page 89— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr d8a (talk • contribs) 05:19, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Accuracy Disputed 

message: 1.Once commonly given to children daily as a nutritional supplement, it is rarely given today, probably because of ignorance
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See history for more information.
As a 70 year old man, I can state with certainly that cod liver oil was routinely given to
children in the 1940s.  It was put into orange juice.  (Actually it floated on the top.)
It tasted horrible, but it was intended to add vitamin D.  At that time vitamin D was not
added to milk, as it is now.  Rickets was a "real" disease.  (George Hardy -- georgeh@ankerstein.org) 
 
2. also helps fight and prevent heart disease, cancer, depression, Alzheimer's, arthritis, diabetes, ulcers, hyperactivity and many other diseases. Increases your energy level and ability to concentrate. Provides greater resistance to common illnesses such as flu and cold. Helps pregnant women avoid premature births, low birth weight and other complications.
That's quite a lot of good effects. I don't believe any of that, since I haven't heard of it from other sources. Feel free to prove me wrong. 
3. It is wise to supplement your diet with high quality fish or cod liver oils daily, one of the most highly recommened brands is [deleted brand name] which is purified to the highest standards to ensure freedom from detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCBs and 28 other contaminants and is free from chemical modification and processing.
No advertising on wikipedia please. 
4. due too their unnatural diets (ever seen fish swimming through fields of grain!?). So it is best to avoid all farm raised varieties of fish if you value your health.
I'm finding it hard to hold back my sarcasm. I can perfectly honestly say that I've read about fish swimming in "fields of grain" during a recent flood. I can't cite the exact issue of the local newspaper though. 
5.Meanwhile, our intake of Omega-6, another fat found in corn, soy, sunflower and other oils, is far too high.
Once again, this is nothing but speculation, and without references or general encyclopedic standard I'd rather believe the opposite. 
I sincerely hope someone with good information sources on something as obscure as cod liver oil could do some research and edit this article to be nicely balanced and encyclopedic. As I mentioned above, I believe wikipedia could use an article on this - I don't have the necessary resources or knowledge to write one myself though. 
--130.232.120.145 05:13, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of parts that are especially bad and caught my attention: 

message: I would like to hear your reasons for saying that Fish Oil Blog is a commercial site. It does not appear so to me.
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The talk page was altered to remove the discussion of fishoilblog.  I've reverted the pageblanking.  The same IP has removed any mention of the fishoilblog discussion from the Talk pages of Cod liver oil, EPA, DHA and Fish oil.  David.Throop 02:41, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial Site 

message: The talk page was altered to remove the discussion of fishoilblog.  I've reverted the pageblanking.  The same IP has removed any mention of the fishoilblog discussion from the Talk pages of Cod liver oil, EPA, DHA and Fish oil.  David.Throop 02:41, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: It puzzles me how people believe that vitamins might have any effect at all on the dead protein-chains of our body hair (vitamin shampoo), but still turn skeptic as soon as it comes to a product that has an unpopular taste. At medical school here in Trondheim at the NTNU cod liver oil is told by professors here to be the only dietary supplement needed in a otherwise balanced diet. The n-3 or n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids are hard to come over by other means and are useful in combating free radical in the body. For those who understand Norwegian they might be interested in  and the Ph.d of Ingrid Helland on Fatty Acids, Mothers & Children
Effects of supplementing pregnant and lactating women with n-3 or n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids. And by the way, for an interesting read on the disadvantages of dietary supplemental vitamins in pill form compared to getting them the "hard" way through vegetables and fruits should read G. Bjelakovic, D. Nikolova, L. L. Gluud, R. G. Simonetti, C. Gluud, Mortality in Randomized Trials of Antioxidant Supplements for Primary and Secondary Prevention: Systematic Review and Meta-analysis, JAMA, vol 297, nr 8, 28. februar 2007, s. 842-857. 84.49.205.237 22:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cod liver oil skepticism unfounded

message: Could we get a nutritional info table stating Vitamins and Minerals /100g including EPA and DHA? From us department of agriculture SR20? --Annon 41.241.218.250 16:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutritional info 

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message: does cod liver oil help heal torn ligament in  your fingers and do it help with your period  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.142.28.203 (talk) 13:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  cod liver oil 

message: This article has some loosely defined terms and possibly pseudoscientific language. It is heavily using scientific jargon and may be doing this to bamboozle. It shows little or no sceptical awareness and so should be treated with caution! Some of the references used point to obviously unscientific websites (healingdaily.com ?)
I've removed the reference to healingdaily.com. Claiming this site as a source of clinical evidence is patently ridiculous.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsieurTitus (talk • contribs) 19:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article discusses numerous claimed benefits well beyond those you are referring to: arthritis,...positive effect on heart, bone, ... repair wounded skin, hair, and nails, ... M.S., etc. These claims are not mainstream. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unscientific and misleading article 

message: I'm a nooby at wikipedia, so I hope I'm putting my comments in the right place. The problem with this entry is that the distinction between "fish oil" and "cod liver oil" is not clear.  Let's give some attention to the claims made for "fish oil" (mostly based upon the health claims for EPA and DHA), and those that are specific to "cod liver oil", which include those of "fish oil", but tend to emphasize (for better or worse) the vitamin A and D content of cod liver oil.
Any mention of vitamin A or D should be subordinated to the general wikipedia entries for these vitamins. The same is true for any references to the EFA contents of cod liver oil (or any fish oil), or any other nutrient claims.
Wikipedia should strive for overall objectivity, but since this is difficult, internal consistency should be a primary goal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhikr (talk • contribs) 06:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fish oil vs. cod liver oil 

message: The reference to the SELECT trial does not justify stating as a fact that high intake of fish oils lead to an increased prostate cancer risk. The SELECT trial did not measure dietary parameters at all but relied on a shallow correlation between serum phosphorlipid composition and omega-3 fat intake. 
Helenuh (talk) 12:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsubstantiated claim about prostate cancer 

message: The toxic dose stated, more than 1 kg for a 50 kg person, is a quite amazing dose level. It is more than 100 times the tolerable upper limit. Are both numbers really correct? If so, the toxic dose is irrelevant as nobody eats a kilogram of cod liver oil in a day
Helenuh (talk) 12:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Deleted, because yes, it was silly. David notMD (talk) 12:36, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazing toxic dose 

message: The 'footnote' for Tubingen punting was simply a link to the Wiki article on punting, so I put it in the text and removed the footnote.  This simply points out that neither here nor in the Wiki article on punting, where Tubingen is mentioned, is there any source for this information.   Richardson mcphillips (talk) 01:08, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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message: "The risks of fatty acid oxidation, hypervitaminosis, and exposure to environmental toxins are reduced when purification processes are applied to produce refined fish oil products.[12]" I cannot make sense of it. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:40, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed the text a bit. What it meant was that there a processing methods that removed oxidized fatty acids, toxic metals (mercury, etc.) and non-metal toxins (PCBs. etc). No idea where there was a mention that this would also reduce risk of hypervitaminosis. David notMD (talk) 12:40, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: What does this mean?

message: HI,
I ad this Reference in the end of "Manufacture" Section
Kindly view and tell me what everything is ok
The FASEB Journal, "Nutritional profiling of cod liver oil processed by molecular distillation, fermentation, or unrefined Brandon T. Metzger and David M. Barnes, 2012/26/6
Thanks Caseyclanton (talk) 06:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Reference  

message: Reference was one epidemiological trial reporting that high CLO intake increased risk. In the published literature there is no other support for this result - either no benefit, or benefit. No good reviews on the topic. As ref did not meet MEDRS, deleted. David notMD (talk) 12:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed mention of cod liver oil increasing risk of pregnancy hypertension 

message: Ref. 3: Rosita Extra-Virgin Cod Liver Oil seems to be connected to a commercial activity selling products. This is not to say, that their information about viking use of cod liver oil and its extraction methods is incorrect, it is just unverifiable. It does not provide any sources for this info and it is not a reliable source itself. so it should not be used as a source by WP.
92.221.117.18 (talk) 16:30, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference 3 seems to be commercial site