Talk:The Stone Roses/Archive 1

message: Hi - I recently added a list of Stone Roses songs to the wiki but they were removed. Any reason why? 2 reasons  - it helps provide a complete listing of all their songs. It enables people to know where to find these songs. 
Thanks
Hello,
I've just read the article & I don't believe 'Ruby Kitching' should be referred to. The fact that someone changed 'Sally Cinnamon' to 'Ruby is Mint' makes me think this is sabotage. I've never heard of this person before, although I know The Patrol had another vocalist before Ian Brown.
"The Stone Roses were formed in Manchester during the early-1980s by tambourinist Ian Brown and vocalist Ruby Kitching. "  Is this correct?  There needs to be a correct first reference to John Squire, I think.Nd239 16:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stone Roses song listing 

message: hi, to the person removing the link I am trying to place. I do not consider the survey to be a spam link.  It will give a valuable insight into the current Stone Roses fans new and old.
I think it will be interesting to see how they fit in with the older Stone Roses fans, many of which were there at the gigs and saw their rise to power and compare and constrast the views across the boards on key issues.
So we'll be able to see finally if all the new fans and the longest fans seem to prefer the debut album, whereas those in the middle (getting into the band at the time of its release) generally prefer Second Coming. And if everyone who saw the Roses first time around really doesn't want a Roses reformation for fear of damaging the legacy while those of the younger generation (some of whom not born til after '89) would want to see it happen and experience some of the glory days for themselves.
I have already received over 100 completed surveys from fans of a very good age range.
The link will also only stay here while I am collecting surveys to get results.
Please post here if you still don't agree, please don't just delete the link again. Feel free to check out that the content is valid. http://www.john-squire.com/fansurvey2007.html
Thank you.
:Thanks for dicussing it here. However, as you have described it, this link violates the external linking guidelines WP:External links. Links should be encyclopedic, provide supplemental information not found in the article, and should not be used for promotion (even non-commercially). Also, since it is your website, linking to it violates "conflict of interest" WP:COI. Please do not relink it unless other editors come to consensus that this link is appropriate for the article. Thanks. Nposs 16:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the top level domain of the linked website is already linked in the article. Websites should only be linked once from any article. Nposs 16:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stone Roses fan survey 2007 

message: He's mentioned in the intro. Who is he and why is he in the intro? Is this a case of vandalism?
Tommy Stardust 10:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack Wootten 

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thread_title: Fair use criteria

message: Please stop removing all the current links as they are there for people using the wikipedia site and it is not for you to decide which site will be the most useful to them.  the official site are valid links for anyone wishing to learn more about what the band members are up to these days and the fan sites also provide excellent info, so please dont delete them all, except for your mate's website, cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.122.79 (talk • contribs) 
:Firstly, more than one person appears to be removing links that they feel are unnecessary and, contrary to what you said, it is for all of us to decide what links will be most useful to readers. That's what Wikipedia is all about! Secondly, this article is for The Stone Roses so the external links section is for links to sites about the whole band. Wikipedia already has articles for Squire and Brown, so the proper place for links to their official sites is on those articles. Thirdly, I'm removing the "Don't Stop" fan site link because we don't need two links to fan sites and in my opinion the "this is the daybreak" link is the better link of the two. Finally, the discography link you inserted is the wrong link - it goes to the title page for lots of band discographies. The link I replaced it with is the direct link to The Stone Roses' discography and is therefore more appropriate.
:Hopefully you can now see that there is a good reason why more than one person is reverting your changes to this section and that you know agree with the reasons for those changes. If not, let's discuss any issues here before making any further alterations to it. -- Hux 05:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS Please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) so that people know who it is who is replying. Thanks. -- Hux 05:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just leave both sites up for visitors to the site to decide which is more useful to them - how about that? 88.106.126.172 16:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean both fan sites, that's a bit redundant, but okay. But the links to John Squire's and Ian Brown's official sites should definitely not be on this page. They belong at John Squire and Ian Brown respectively. -- Hux 18:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To the person constantly changing the external links section (again) 

message: We seem to have an issue with the discography section. People are changing the US chart position section from the Billboard Hot 100 to the Billboard modern rock chart and back again, along with the positions themselves. There's an unknown user who keeps making these changes (always without any edit comments) and then known users revert them every now and again. Instead of continuing this trend, do you think we could maybe talk about it, agree on what should be displayed and where to get the info from, and then just come to an arrangement we all agree with? For example, where are you guys getting the chart position info from? Without making that a little clearer it's really difficult to tell whether the unknown user's changes are genuine or not. -- Hux (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit war over chart positions