Talk:The Omega Glory

message: The racial and sociological analysis section of this episode is silly.  This isn't Shakespeare or Homer, but a very poorly written episode of Star Trek.
The story doesn't even give any explanation as to how this planet could have had a country with the same flag and constitution as the U.S.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.104.71.166 (talk) 05:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The analysis section is silly 

message: Can't find either this in Making of Star Trek, where the line is that they sent 3 stories (or scripts) and NBC selected "Where No Man", and Inside, which goes into a little more detail, noting that the "Mudd's Women" script was late.  Morwen - Talk 17:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making of Star Trek 

message: This episode was broadcast on July 7, 2008 in Washington, DC on WDCA. I don't know if it was broadcast elsewhere and, if so, on exactly what date. In general the published dates for the remastered series have been a few days before the WDCA broadcast date. Manassehkatz 18:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 broadcast 

message: No one seems to note the parallels with the original Buck Rogers story.  I used to mention it to my SF classes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:50C6:4600:7141:7F67:9F1B:2FCC (talk) 18:31, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Got cite? Alastairward (talk) 21:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I am citing my own research. I just read the 1951 Asimov novel which I have described above. After that, I checked out the official information at http://www.startrek.com for the episode in question which can be found here: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68768.html I'm not saying that the writer of this episode (Gene Roddenberry) did this on purpose. It might be an accident caused by living in a tightly coupled society (maybe like the George Harrision thing). It would have been nice if Asimov would have gotten some kind of honourable mention. --Neilrieck (talk) 22:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not improbable though. I don't have a copy to hand but I remember "Inside Star Trek The Real Story", has an account of how the episode Arena was written with the author apparently unaware of the short story by the same name and with the same plot. Reminds me that I must cite that when I have that copy to hand. Alastairward (talk) 01:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I looked up the article on "Omega Glory" to see if anyone had recorded the point of resemblance between Asimov's novel and the Star Trek episode.  The article doesn't mention the similarity, but looking into the discussion area, I see that I'm not the first to raise the issue.  The Wikipedia entry on The Stars Like Dust points out that Asimov was talked into introducing the US Constitution matter into his novel by an editor; later he regretted having done so.  Regarding the use of the Fredric Brown story "Arena" as the basis of a ST:TOS episode -- the writer of the episode "Arena" might well have pointed to the independent arrival at the exact wording of the US Constitution by the inhabitants of a distant planet as an example of the extraordinary coincidences that are bound to occur from time to time.  But the reader of the short story is likely to come to a different conclusion.  JEM 14:34, 5 July 2009 (EST)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.28.120 (talk)  
Planet of the apes, anyone? The 1968 movie and the Star Trek episode both came out in spring of 1968, but Pierre Boulle's 1963 novel 'La Planète des singes' is older. --2003:C6:3711:CFCE:7468:1A13:CE45:75EE (talk) 00:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

text: The book version by Boule had parallelism with Earth, except for the role reversal with species; but not US landmarks suddenly cropping up at the end, nor was it set in the year 3978, or any future time. The 1968 film essentially gutted Boule's book, keeping little more than the species-reversal element and some names. Most of its story elements apparently drew heavily on the Meg Series by Nelson Bond, which was set in future-Earth in 3478, had the Forbidden Cities (in place of the Forbidden Zone), the surprise appearance of US landmarks (Mount Rushmore at the very end of Place of the Gods, and Statue of Liberty near the end of Magic City); differing from Planet of the Apes only in making gender the central theme, rather than species. That came out of the 1940's.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6000:AA4D:C5B8:0:3361:EAF8:97B7 (talk) 21:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Case of Plagiarism? 

message: Posted by Greg S. over at trekbbs.com on 10Feb2011:
:The actual scripted printed dialog from the December 15, 1967 Revised Final Draft script for "The Omega Glory" Scene 149, verbatim is:
:"Ee'd pebnista nordor formor pur fektunun...."
:This would appear to mean:
:Ee'd = We the
:Pebnista = People of the United States
:Nordor = In order
:Formor = Form a more
:Pur fektunun = Perfect union 
Excellent info.  Thanks to him.--Tdadamemd (talk) 06:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sasha? rofl  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:A540:290:0:69:AAFD:CFD8:E58C (talk) 14:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Actual Script 

message: The intro section talks about "Retrospective reviews." I get that the episode is compositionally unbalanced, has quite a few continuity holes (even for TOS), and makes unveiled patriotic allusions which are unusual for Star Trek. However, is there actually a citation anywhere for this? Is there a poll somewhere to support it? If there isn't, we should remove the sentence as a biased and highly subjective remark.  PaganinianaX (talk) 04:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops. Just finished reading the Analysis section and citations. There are so many polls … difficult to summarize. 😅 PaganinianaX (talk) 04:35, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations for Intro Section