Talk:Lisburn

message: The town was known as Lisnagarvey until it was burned to the ground in 1641. In the years afterwards it became known as "Lisburn", as a reference to the fire. I have this on good authority from a prominent local historian. It's nothing to do with the Ulster-Scots word "burn" or "stream". See "Voices from the Street: Bridge Street and the Quay of Lisburn", published by Lisburn City Council in 2006. --Tireoghain2 15:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name 

message: I feel that the reference to the Belfast-Dublin Corridor is inaccurate.  The majority of people would view Newry as the third city in that trio rather than Lisburn.  This should be amended.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.123.185.230 (talk) 14:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely a city, www.lisburncity.gov.uk Djegan 19:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I've reverted the changes to the article that removed any mention of city status. It is a city, but I've added a line to say that most regard it as a town due to its size. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated the article to make it more relavent to Lisburn City, personally when someone says Lisburn I think 1st The town, 2nd The council and 3rd The city. I grew up in what is now called Lisburn City, which many still refer to as Lisburn borough. When I say Lisburn I would always mean the town, not the administritive area! Maybe I am too close to the problem, and the rest of the world sees the council area as the more importnat of the two entities. I posted a bit on diambiguation at the bottom of this page, but no-one responded to it. Fasach Nua 19:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On an aside the Strabane article is about Strabane town, not Strabane district council area and Craigavon is about Craigavon town, not Craigavon council area, maybe we should look at some uniformity Fasach Nua 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: City Status

message: Is this relevant:
Lisburn is home to a large youth population. The constant expansions to the "Bow Street Mall" make the mall a hotspot for youth, as well as the multiscreen "Omliplex" and "Leisureplex". Popular youth "hangout" spots include Duncan's Dam, and Castle Gardens
Or even accurate?
Gerry Lynch 17:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't suppose that matters. Considering that most places on the island of Ireland are made up of around 25% of people being under 16 years. Sure in Dublin, 50% of the population is said to be under 25. 08:22, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Teen Talk!

message: :No evidence that Lisburn police station is the HQ for Belfast Region.  The PSNI website mentions the Lisburn DCU (District Command Unit), but Belfast is split in East, West, South and North Belfast DCUs ... each with non-Lisburn base stations.
:Lisburn police state = hq for Lisburn DCU = no surprise, so not worth mentioning.  Reference to police station removed.  AMe 23:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Police - it's not HQ for Belfast Region

message: :Can't remember the details from primary school, but wasn't Wallace Park named after someone who had a big influence over the town?  Maybe someone can add in the details.  AMe 23:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wallace

message: I find this article confusing, there is:
# Lisburn Town - which is the market town 
:and
#Lisburn city - which is the council area, which encompasses the town plus many non-trivial villages, such as Moira, Dunmurry and Hillsborough
and from reading the artile, I couldn't tell which of the two this article is meant to refer to, does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Fasach Nua 19:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: Looking at the figures for "20%[3] nationalist population" its more a matter of faith than statistics. Ultimately whilst its easy to assume SDLP+SF=20% we do not know if these people are nationalist or not, simply that they vote for broadly nationalist based parties; indeed Alliance polled around 10% and these people could represent nationalist or unionist traditions but not align themselves with the more extreme viewpoints on either side. Indeed its the sentence at large that troubles me, viz "a decision which has angered many of the city's 20% nationalist population"; do we know if these people even care if the Union Flag is flown all year round. Fundementally if the sentence cannot be reasonably citied as a whole then its not fit for inclusion at all; the citation does not reach WP:VERIFY and is potentially in violation of WP:NOR as we are interpreting the conscience of voters by voting pattern. Djegan 13:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 20% nationalist population

message: No mention of the Irish Linen Museum!? --Ulster Linen (talk) 11:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Museum

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message: Is there any explanation as to why the city's population nearly trebled between 1991 and 2011?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.155.226.3 (talk) 13:45, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. The answer is that the figures weren't comparing like for like. The figures for 1991 and 1981 seem to have been solely for Lisburn Urban Area. The figures for 2001 and 2011 were for Lisburn local government district, which covers a much wider area. I've amended the figures for 1991 and 1981 to reflect the census for the current "Lisburn City" area. Valenciano (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population growth 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: For what it's worth, I've put together an SVG graphic of the coat of arms of Lisburn after the city's website:
No supporters, motto, or crest, obviously, just the scutcheon. Don't know if you want to include it, but it's there. Solidarity, Q·L·1968 ☿ 00:00, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this the actual coat of arms for Lisburn? I have noted there appears to be official ones and then Roman Catholic based/inspired ones for counties and places in Ireland. Mabuska (talk) 12:25, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Coat of arms

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message: I'm considering updating Lisburn's population to 2011 census figures. I'm pinging  here because of the edits in 2014 regarding population. 
The population given in the lede, 71,465, reflects a 2001 census figure for Lisburn Urban Area. The figure in the Infobox, 120,465, is likely for the Local Government District in 2001. In the 2011 census NISRA records there are three Lisburn figures: one for Local Government District (120,165), one for City Settlement (45,370) and one for Metropolitan Settlement (31,186). For example the City Settlement figure is here. I propose to update the population to the City Settlement one. The scope of the Local Government District is too large and I believe the scope of the Metropolitan Settlement is too small. NISRA gives an overall table of urban populations (Settlements) for 2011 here (use Usual Resident Population). On Page 5, it lists Lisburn City at 45,370 (the City Settlement figure).
The effect of this will be to drop Lisburn's place in the overall table of Northern Ireland settlements from 3rd to perhaps 8th. So there may be some controversy with this change. I've been updating populations for other towns in Northern Ireland to NISRA Census 2011 figures and I believe that NISRA numbers (rather than those from a Council) represent the most reliable source. Interested to hear others' thoughts on this. Thanks Declangi (talk) 08:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: City settlement. The idea that places like Moira, Hillsborough and Glenavy, let alone Poleglass and Twinbrook, were part of a "Lisburn city" was always dubious. The idea of Dundonald being part of that even more so. Valenciano (talk) 13:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Declangi (talk) 08:26, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population again 

message: Trying to keep this concise. (1) War of Independence is mentioned in the proceeding section. (2) Ret. Brigadier General Pain, even though given command of troops, appears at the time to have been RIC Divisional Commander. While he was absolutely a UVF man (Craig's righthand man as Chief of Staff), is their evidence that in August 1920 he was an active "UVF leader? (3) It is an inference that the failure to pursue special constables was the result of the threatened resignations, but Lawlor suggests there were other pressures and considerations in the decision. Can't the connection be left to the reader. Cheers.
ManfredHugh (talk)
:Some of your changes to this section are fine, but other changes made the wording less concise and introduced too many long-drawn-out sentences. On your first point: the War of Independence and events of 1920 should be mentioned before events of 1922, so I've moved them into chronological order. I've also moved the March assassination of MacCurtain and the August assassination of Swanzy back into chronological order.  On your second point: Lawlor says on page 120 that "Hacket Pain was one of the leaders of the UVF", and the same wording was used in this article. However, Lawlor doesn't say whether his UVF involvement ended or if it continued after the war. Other sources suggest he was replaced, so I'm happy to use "former UVF leader". ~Asarlaí 22:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: The Burnings 1920

message: Update the population to the 2021 figure - 51,452 2A02:C7C:621B:7C00:CD86:4F92:B93C:8281 (talk) 09:06, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2023