Talk:Hyderabad/Archive 2

message: The aricle is in need of an update, especially the information about area & population. The article's information has been outdated as a result of reformation of the city & the formation of Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation which has officially extended the city's limits & increased its population. --Doc sameer 20:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Update needed

message: Just a point to raise, that Hyderabad is not the 5th largest metropolis in India, it is actually the 6th behind Bangalore which is the 5th largest. The link to the largest metropolitan areas of the world lists Hyderabad as the 40th largest metropolis in the world and Bangalore 37th largest in the world. I am going to fix this discrepancy.
Nitnaga211.31.206.61 08:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population of Hyderabad 

message: I would however disagree with the statment made by the earlier author in this case.The citation given refering to Hyderabad as 6th largest city is based on population but not by area.The fact that Hyderabad comes after chennai in reference to area in square kms, can be checked with any Indian governmental organisation dealing geographyical aspects . This fact has always been mislead because of the edge Banglore city has as a software hub. In reference with population too,recent census data however state's that Hyderabad's population has already crossed that of Bangalore's.I kindly request that the authenticity of this fact be quoted based on a citation from Indian governmental organization, rather than a non -indian to obviate any ambiguity here in.
The discrepancy has already been corrected by me.
[ [User:Purush] [2:13PM, 16 November 2006]
In relation to the population issue, I have noticed in the intro to the page the population for Hyderabad is stated as 81 lakh, 8.1million but the cited reference gives an estimate for Hyderabad in 2007 a population of 6.1 million or 61 lakh. I will go ahead correct this discrepancy if no one has any objections.
Nitnaga 02:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyderabad 5th largest city 

message: I feel that these sections don't belong to this place as the correct place for them will be the wikitravel article. Most of the things are already present there and only a few more details will have to be moved. Please let me know your opinions on this. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accomodation & Markets and Shopping Malls 

message: I feel that the map shown to give an idia of the location of hyderabad is very drab, could somebody add a better map?
12.10.219.45 06:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that the map is ok. Click on the map to see a larger image(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:India-hyderabad.png). Sumanthk 06:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Location of Hyderabad

message: somebody put the annual temperature in HYD as 25-27 C, ya right, I have lived in HYD all my life and in summer the temperature hits 45 C easily if not more. I have changed that fact to reflect that. 25-27 C, what do you think, this is Hawaii?
:only 45? Where were you last summer when it hit 50? ;) --hydkat 06:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  annual temperature 

message: Need an admin's help to archieve old talk threads. Chirag 21:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Archive does not need a admin. Any one can do it. See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 21:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to archieve the talk 

message: I removed the section below: Too unimportant for the entry on this city. Maybe a page a Counsulates of Iran could be opened??
:Consulate general of IRAN
:Since the city of Hyderabad has been one of the centers of attraction for Iranians and since old days a noticeable number of Iranian has been settling in this city in 1970 the government of IRAN decided to have a new representative in this city, Count out its embassy in New Delhi and consulate general in Mumbai, In order to offer better service to Iranians who settled in Hyderabad and Deccan. This consulate has been located in the area of Banjara Hills (High class area of this city)
--hydkat 11:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed '''Consulate general of IRAN''' section 

message: * A Google Maps API Implementation for Hyderabad
I'm removing the link above from external links... there is a geolinks template directly above this link which makes this link redundant. 
:Fabcity is already referenced. --hydkat 07:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  about maps and fabcity 

message: Would you consider adding http://www.fullhyderabad.com in the "External Links" part? It is a professionally maintained and fairly comprehensive dedicated guide to Hyderabad and Secunderabad, updated twice every day. Thanks. 59.93.83.64 08:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  For The Editors 

message: ===Other Icons===
*Shyam Benegal - Films Director
*Rakesh Sharma- first Indian in outer space
..as it was in the sports section --hydkat 08:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no move —Mets501 (talk) 16:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed the section below.... 

message: *Shyam Benegal - Films Director
*Rakesh Sharma- first Indian in outer space
..as it was in the sports section --hydkat 08:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no move —Mets501 (talk) 16:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Icons

message: Add  * Support  or  * Oppose  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
* Support As per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements)#India --hydkat 13:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your point makes sense, but we are disambiguating between two places from different countries. If it were simply a district or state I'd agree. Braces makes a lot more sense here. Otherwise it seems as if we are saying that the two Hyderabad cities fall in the districts of India and Pakistan!!! --hydkat 13:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Plz read my above comment. Can Y in X, Y be the name of a country, when it is usually a state or district?  --hydkat 13:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it can. This is currently applied to WP articles worldwide (except some Nichalp & Co. moved pages in India and Pakistan). Read WP:NC:CITY Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:39, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Hydkat, I don't see why Y should mean a district or a state, it could mean a country too. What's happening because of using paranthesis in some names is that it is spreading to other city articles where comma should be used. If we follow comma everywhere, this kind of thing will not happen. -- Ganeshk (talk) 16:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the point of view of an editor; yes that is a potential problem. But in the point of view of an article browser there's quite a difference between saying Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh and Hyderabad, India, it just sounds absurd. Especially if it is in a list like List of cities in India --hydkat 17:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The list that you point should not be showing dab names. It should show Hyderabad. The reader would notice no difference. -- Ganeshk (talk) 17:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Even discounting the India entry, the guideline says there are several disambiguation styles with the comma currently the most commonly used. Using parentheses is listed as an option so it is not against the guideline. This is a matter of preference. In fact, there have been many city articles using parentheses before you changed them yourself. --Polaron | Talk 15:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Err.. You're mentioning a popular city format that is used by American media agencies to classify non-US cities. That goes against the grain of having localized flavors of naming conventions. Tobias, there is nothing wrong about it. You move pages according to your conventions when the parenthesis is a perfectly legal method of disambiguating. Wikipedia follows local standards, when necessary, not the ones you keep rigidly applying. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.147.22.210 (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2006
*Support if that's the convention for India.  Someone deleted the entire India part when I checked.  —  AjaxSmack   08:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Kochi (India) is a featured article set to appear on the main page tomorrow --hydkat 14:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: "The dialect spoken in Hyderabad and the surrounding areas of Telangana is distinct from the dialect of the coastal Andhra region. Hyderabad and the rest of Telangana have a unique culture of their own in comparison to the coastal and Rayalseema regions of Andhra Pradesh. The Telugu spoke here has assimilated many Urdu words into it. And the Urdu spoken here is also unique, with some Marathi words and a unique Hyderabad accent, giving rise to a dialect sometimes called as Hyderabadi Hindi."
Above passage from intro need to be rewritten..looks like It was written by a telangana seperatist and plus the paragraph does'nt deserve to be in intro can be moved to culture section. for the following reasons
*Hyderabadi hindi is not equivalent to telangana telugu. Hyderabadi telugu is similiar to telugu spoken in Nalgonda area. constrasting with only Coastal dialect is POV. I would say Hyderabad and surrounding areas have a distinct dialect than the rest of the state would be a more NPOV statement.
*Hyderabad has unique culture vis-a-vis Adilabad, khammam or Mahabubnagar. so constrasting with only coastal and Rayalaseema is biased.
--Vyzasatya 16:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Contrasting it with just the coastal region is not appropriate. Hydereabad has its own unique dialect compared to the rest of the state. I will rephrase the paragraph.
Sumanth 12:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've also removed the sentence which clubs "hyderabad and the rest of telangana". That would be more appropriate in the Telangana article.
Sumanth 12:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV objections 

message: i dont think so.. never heard it being used in that sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.207.7.25 (talk • contribs).
:poetic license? ;) --hydkat 15:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  gateway of south india? 

message: A reference and picture of Mamta Sagar has been added to the culture section. I am not sure if the picture is appropriate in the page for the city. I am planning on removing it. objections? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bolasanibk (talk • contribs) 09:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Beat you at it... hope no-one objects... but if someone's image has to be put on this page, let it be someone who really relates to this city... --hydkat 18:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mamta Sagar? 

message: I removed the Nagarjuna Dam entry, reason:not in hyderabad. Same reason for Nagarjuna Sagar. Warangal is more than 150 km from hydrabad and at-least two districts away so removed attraction based there... my favorite removal will be the City Center Mall: nice place, but NOT an attraction.  Finnaly call P. V. Narasimha Rao; Chanakya in his own article.
why do we have a attractions section in the first place? see Mumbai --hydkat 22:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup of Attraction section 

message: How can one have an article on Hyderabad without a photo of the Char Minar? Its like having an aticle on Paris without a photo of the Eiffel Tower. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.227.217 (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Char Minar 

message: This article is totally out of date! Not much effort has been into identifying whats now India's second largest city!
Reference: 
1. http://www.eenadu.net/archives/archive-17-4-2007/panelhtml.asp?qrystr=htm/panel1.htm
2. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1917042.cms
3. City A Greater Reality
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HYDERABAD: Citizens of Hyderabad, you have woken up this Tuesday to not only a new morning but to a new reality. You are now the residents of the second largest city in the country, next only to the national capital, New Delhi. 
This has happened with the state government merging - through Government Order 261 issued on Monday - 12 surrounding municipalities with the Municipal Corporation of Hyderabad, thereby creating Greater Hyderabad. 
The new urban agglomeration, of which you are proud citizens, sprawls across 625 square km with a population of 67 lakh. 
Till Monday, Hyderabad had a population of 45 lakh living in an area of 172 sq km. The erstwhile city of the Nizams has now transformed into an area greater than Mumbai, Chennai and of course Bengalooru. Mumbai, however, will have a larger population than Hyderabad. 
The 12 municipalities —L B Nagar, Gaddiannaram, Uppal Kalan, Malkajgiri, Kapra, Alwal, Quthbullapur, Kukatpally, Serilingampalli, Rajendranagar, Ramachandrapuram and Patancheru — now stand abolished and merged into Greater Hyderabad which will have a single corporation. All these municipalities are in Rangareddy district. 
Besides launching it into the league of the fastest growing metros in the country, the establishment of Greater Hyderabad will "facilitate improved and high standard of civic services, provide better civic administrative mechanism, ensure better planning and focused development of the mega city,achieve more equitable devolution of finances and utilisation of resources, ensure uniform enforcement and make the city internationally competitive with world-class infrastructure and services,"information minister Md Shabbir Ali declared at a press conference here on Monday. 
However, it would be idle to expect things to transform overnight in the newly-merged Hyderabad areas. 
But Shabbir announced optimistically: "We will now develop the surrounding areas (and now merged parts) of the state capital on a par with Hyderabad. Special emphasis will be on upgrading the civic infrastructure in the peripheral areas." 
With funds amounting to Rs 28,000 crore drawn from the Centre, state government and through public-private partnership, the projects that would be taken up by the new corporation include Outer Ring Road (Rs 5,000 crore); sewerage system (2,000 cr); storm water drains (500 cr); elevated express highway (500 cr); bus rapid transit system (500 cr); Hyderabad international airport (1,500 cr); and special package for old city (2,000 cr). 
In a bid to allay the apprehensions of many that the creation of a mega city would mean higher taxes, chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy announced that such a move was not on the anvil. 
The constitution of Greater Hyderabad came after the Supreme Court dismissed an MIM petition opposing the idea. On the drawing board for the last two years, analysts aver that Rajasekhara Reddy’s move is also aimed at containing the Telangana lobby by creating a vested interest for a "city state". 
The creation of Greater Hyderabad will give a fillip to the construction industry which supports the ruling party handsomely, aver analysts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.201.225.87 (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greater Hyderabad! 

message: i added the detials of HIFF.
i invite discussion and talk and addtions to the article
gangactor 16:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  added the details about the 1st HIFF Hyderabad International Film Festival 

message: Some suggestions:
#. As someone else has mentioned above an article on Hyderabd without  Charminar images???
#. The new Hyderabad logo. Can we copy it from somehwere without violating GDFL?
# Can someone create a GDFL map of Greater Hyderabad? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 13:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On a related note, I think the present image in the introduction box is to be changed. An IT park like that can exist anywhere. It in no way defines Hyd. Just my two cents. Like Deepak suggests, a Charminar pic would be a great substitute.--Seraphiel 12:08, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, the first image in the article should of Charminar. --(Sumanth|Talk) 07:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I have added a template for the related articles & managed to link some of the articles connected to the main article. Please feel free to correct errors & add more links as deemed appropriate. (Doc sameer 23:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template of related articles 

message: Somebody please change the population in the infobox to something accurate. --EfferAKS 06:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  75 million people?! 

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