Talk:Take That

message: Why are the album cover images constantly deleted? The Backstreet Boys page has many album images that stay. Can someone clarify why the TT keep being taken off? How are they breaking copyright laws if other pages can feature them?
Surely we can find a better main image? A clearer one that shows them better and larger. Again, any better ones keep getting deleted. Confusing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebrowninkpot (talk • contribs) 09:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I might have missed it, but is there any mention in the article of the jukebox musical that will be made based on their music? -- Annie D 06:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to butt into this discussion, but the more interesting question for THIS article is, what effect has the musical had on the band, if any?  Did the creation of, publicity for, and tour of the musical actually help the band popularise its comeback?  I have no idea if this is relevant, I'm just asking - if it is so, then something else ought to be said in the article.  If not, then I agree that the material that is now shown under other media is probably good enough for now.  After the musical opens on the West End, if it becomes a really big hit, then perhaps a little more about it will be of interest in this article.  Best regards, everyone, and try to be calm.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Musical

message: There is no mention of Gary Barlow's brief acting career
He appeared in the TV show "Heartbeat" (1 episode, 2000)in the episode "The Son-In-Law" (2000) as character "Micky Shannon"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.192.22.33 (talk) 11:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Biographies

message: I honestly thought they were a christian rock band.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.63.78.95 (talk) 00:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No joke

message: The following edit is the matter of an edit war:
Please reach a consensus on whether to include or exclude this statement at Talk:Never_Forget_(Musical)#Edit_dispute so that this article can be unprotected. Thank you. --   Netsnipe   ►  11:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A compromise statement can set forth the facts that the musical uses songs composed by Barlow in the 1990s and that in 2006 Barlow and EMI licensed the songs for use in the show. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page protection

message: 
I've removed the above disambiguation link for Never Forget, the Take That musical.  According to Wikipedia guidelines disambiguation "is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural choice of title for more than one article."
As it's incredibly unlikely that users would type "Take That" into the search box and expect to arrive at the page to an article practically (it seems) unconnected with the band, and as the titles are not even close in being similar, this usage of disambiguation links is incorrect in my view.
Howie ☎ 20:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation link 

message: Can people please stop mentioning Street Beat and Cutest Rush? As revealed many times now this was a false story created by NMS and the members didn't know each other before the audition. Thanks! OrangeTigger73 (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Street Beat/Cutest Rush 

message: why was the in other media info shortened? I added Shameless and someone else added The Office prior to that... both(and others) gone nowOrangeTigger73 (talk) 00:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  in other media info 

message: This is a pretty important event, because it was why the band disbanded in the first place. However in the article the explanation doesn't go beyond after Williams left the band. Someone should fix this up --Hamster X 04:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of why [[Robbie Williams]] left Take That 

message: There's no mention of their full list of songs produced so far. Would also be nice to have a bit on the various managers and other people involved in Take That's success, etc. --Rebroad (talk) 13:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  list of songs + history of the band (managers, etc) 

message: There have been no announcements made regarding the return of Robbie Williams to the band yet people persist in editing him back into the band here. It should be protected to prevent such vandalism.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.60.154.23 (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  request to semi-protect page 

message: Mentioning of their participation of the charity single "Everybody Hurts"  for Haiti earthquake.--Cooly123 01:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 update 

message: Whilst the free image isn't great, our image policy states that it must be used instead of a non-free image.  BUT, there must be a better free image out there.  Thousands of people must have taken photos at their recent shows, and I'm pretty sure one of them would like their photo at the top of the Wikipedia article.  I'll try to scour some forums.  Someone might also like to try Flickr to see if there's a suitable CC-licensed image there. Black Kite (t) (c) 10:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any way we can get a free licensed picture of Take That, all we seem to be getting at the moment are copyright infringements and fan photos that arent good enough mainly because they dont show the whole group in focus...Yids2010 (talk) 00:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Free image

message: This article looks more like a daily fan blog than an encyclopedia article. --80.135.246.16 (talk) 14:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Daily fan blog?

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message: Although the tabloids are stating he has left Take That, the official statement of the band states clearly that the five piece of Take That are on a break here. They have not left each other's company, Robbie is releasing a solo album whilst Take That have their annual year off after their tour. Until the band state otherwise officially through their website or appropriate channels, Robbie is still part of Take That. Tabloid rumour mill is not good enough, we need an official statement before changing anything. Virus101 (talk) 10:33, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a "tabloid rumour" if Gary Barlow has actually stated to the press that Robbie Williams has left Take That. I agree that we need to look into finding more supportive evidence that Barlow has made such a statement, but as it currently stands it's more than just a rumour from the mill, it's a statement from a member. Burbridge92 (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but it was also announced that Gary Barlow's words were taken out of context. Take That management has today come out and rubbished these rumours here and here. It also says here at the bottom of the article that once Robbie Williams completes his solo album he will return to Take That. Virus101 (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They must have changed his wording a lot to get that out-of-context. None-the-less, we have the evidence we need. Regards, Burbridge92 (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I've just reviewed those articles you posted links for, definitely a blatant change of wording there. Burbridge92 (talk) 19:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, it appears that Rob won't ever be announced as leaving Take That, he'll just release a solo album during the year that Take That take off and always remain part of the group. Virus101 (talk) 19:58, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Robbie's apparent departure

message: I notice most other artists have a link to a page documenting a complete list of their songs. Is there a reason why Take That do not? I would be happy to work to create one. --Jonie148 (talk) 20:18, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete list of songs? 

message: It's mostly stylistic choices, and choices about what is included vs excluded, but it reads so much like a fan page or record company bio. Just because you find a citation saying 'Greatest boyband eva' or whatever, doesn't really mean that it is true, you know what I mean? I've a feeling that you could likely find someone notable effusing praise about any boyband, particularly after they 'breakup'. I say this being aware that the response will be along the lines of "well, if you don't like it, edit it with sources" yada, yada. But I really don't have the interest to do that. I just clicked through on a link that had their 2006 album as 'high selling' and thought to myself "weren't they a nineties band? How are they having success on that scale in 2006?". The article doesn't really answer that except to say 'They are so talented and beautiful and they write such good songs. Everyone thinks they are the greatest band since sliced cheese'.
So, on behalf of those seeking fair and balanced wikipedia articles, please editors, just try a little to make this a little more objective and a little deeper.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.207.146 (talk) 02:32, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV - fan page? 

message: Just to give everyone a heads up; I have renamed the section "Everything Changes and Superstardom" to "Everything Changes, Nobody Else, and Superstardom" so all the studio albums are clearly visible in the band biography. If anybody disagrees, please discuss it with me before reverting, Thanks --Jonie148 (talk) 08:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of section 

message: Okay I can't seem to find anything regarding 45 million in this article. Can you point me to it? Here's the whole article from here http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/music-industry-trust-honours-barlow-7959103.html
--Krystaleen  15:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Read it again," they said. A proper reply in this discussion would be nice.--Krystaleen  01:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Industry Trust honours Barlow 

message: There seems to be some disputes about this. Is there any reliable source that states whether Robbie has left again?--Krystaleen 02:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  4 piece or 5 piece? 

message: People adding 'Hiatus as of 2012' (or similar text) to the years active section, then others removing it again in a seemingly never-ending war is really starting to annoy me.
Can we please decide once and for all; Are they on a Hiatus or not, and if so, is this noteworthy enough to put at the top of the article?
Rant over. Thank You. --Jonie148 (talk) 16:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Hiatus as of 2012' 

message: It has recently come to my attention that in 1994, in parallel to the release of Love Ain't Here Anymore, Take That released No Si Aqui No Hay Amor in Spain only.  
I am aware that Wikipedia does not look too kindly on Country-specific singles, but I am equally certain that if it is not deserving of it's own article, this single should at least merit a mention in the main text of this article and within the singles area of Template:Take That. I would be interested to know what other editors think of this proposal, details of the single release can be found here; [1]. --Jonie148 (talk) 13:43, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Si Aqui No Hay Amor - Single? 

message: I have a very vague memory that the band were originally called Take That! (with an exclamation mark).  I can't find any evidence for such a claim though.  Can anyone else?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.244.24 (talk) 22:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take That! 

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message: On 28 April 2014, Williams announced on Twitter he was to become a dad for a second time, and consequently suggested he would be unable to join Take That on their album and tour. Although welcome to return to the band at any time, Williams chose not to return for group's seventh and eighth studio albums and their accompanying tours, focusing instead on his solo commitments. He continued to write music with his colleagues and performed with the group on several occasions since 2011's Progress tour and plans on returning at some point in the future.
I found this from the article and it was proves that Robbie left the group on April 28 2014 and not in 2012, like some people mean he did. Please stop editing the page, Robbie Willams was a part of the group from 1990 till 1995 and again in 2010 till 2014.
- Fona2000
: please cite the source you claim for this. Changing the article without providing a source is disruptive, especially to articles about living people: see WP:BLP which you are required to follow. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for discussing, I'm eager to see this resolved at this point. I can't speak for other editors, but on my own behalf I'll give in gracefully re. the 2014 date (although I will note that a) there are news articles from 2011 and 2012 that suggest Williams left earlier, and b) he has not made any significant contribution to the band whatsoever since the Progress tour and the Progressed promo stuff wrapped up). My issue has largely been with the addition of 'occasional appearances' to the Members graph, and misleading statements about the nature of Williams' non-membership at present in the article body. As long as that stuff stays out of the article, I'm happy. --Jonie148 (talk) 23:00, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies for editing without noticing this section previously. However, this certainly isn't as clear cut as the above suggests. Robbie's departure was announced - and indeed confirmed - in 2014, but the sources are clear that (unlike Jason) he never resumed activity with the band after the Progress cycle ended in 2012. To show him in the members section as part of the band until 2014 is misleading in my opinion. This is something that needs a consensus to avoid potential edit warring. U-Mos (talk) 22:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed --Jonie148 (talk) 10:01, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Robbie Williams departure in Take That 

message: Hello 
I was wondering why you keep changing on when Robbie left take that. No sources tells that he left in 2012 but different tells that he left the group right after “the progress tour“ in 2011 and some other says in 2014 right before the recordings of the “lll” album took place, causing Robbie became a dad for the second time.
Looking forward to here from you
FONA2000 Fona2000 (talk) 15:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: {{u|Fona2000]} thanks for reaching out. The first thing to note is that 2012 as Robbie's (second) departure date is the current WP:CONSENSUS version and show should remain unless there is agreement to change it. You have been warned about this (and even blocked from editing) previously. The Newsround source does indeed report that Robbie had left in 2011, which could be integrated into the text of the article, but this was refuted at the time, so Robbie appeared with the band throughout 2012 as a full-time member. His departure was announced in 2014, but he had not been active with the band since 2012, so 2012 is his departure date. U-Mos (talk) 00:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

text: Once again, I am working to preserve the current WP:CONSENSUS. Please consider taking the opportunity to revert your disruptive edits while this discussion takes place. Currently, the article reads that Williams was a member through 2012 (while the band were mostly inactive) using this source for his final appearance in November of that year. It could be argued that 2011 is more accurate - implementing this would involve editing more than just the band members section so the article agrees with itself, and also a consensus to do so. No objection to that if other editors agree. Per to WP:BRD process, you have made your edits, they've been reverted, so we're here in the discussion stage - restoring your preferred version is disruptive to the process at this time. U-Mos (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

text: You'll need to present an argument a bit more convincing than that tautological statement. I'll point you once again to the importance of articles reflecting consensus on Wikipedia. --Jonie148 (talk) 15:19, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

text: Yes, as has been discussed that is the date that Robbie's departure was announced, the wording of which is clear that he never returned after that last performance in 2012. Orange, on the other hand, reconvened with the band during 2014 and quit soon after. U-Mos (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robbie William’s departure in 2011 or 2014?! 

message: It Only Takes a Minute charted 1 June 1992 not 1982 as stated in the article Mancbranch (talk) 07:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 10:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020 

message: Since last restoring of the article of take that, there's now very much false information on the article so the page can no longer be trusted, therefore i recommend people who wants to read whats right to check the take that article on takethat.fandom.com.
Looking forward to restore it to the right edition in march 2021. :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.38.137.181 (talk) 12:28, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  ALERT! False information in the Take That article 

message: I need to change the image 149.22.27.24 (talk) 20:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Change it to what? Neiltonks (talk) 21:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2020 

message: Williams rejoined Take That for a one/off performance i maj 2020, during the covid-19 charity gig. He appeared as a full time member, and i think that we should include it in his timeline in the article, i've been doing some researching and many newspapers in the UK, describe it as Williams' first Take That-performance since 2012's Music Industry Trust Awards.
If we should make the article about williams' activity in the group complete i think we should include this in his timeline.
He didn't only make an guest appearance in the group, he rejoined the band and i think that makes a difference. Please think about it, and maybe we can discuss how we write it in the article...  
my example: Robbie Williams (1990–1995, 2010–2012, 2020)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.38.138.241 (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Williams rejoined the band for one performance, so the only appropriate way to annotate this in the timeline would be , which I oppose. KyleJoantalk 08:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

text: A couple of hours-long reunion (for a live show) is not sufficient to count as a reunion. Publicity and press for the event may suggest otherwise, but you've got to appreciate that headlines about Williams rejoining Take That are a great source of clickbait revenue for journalists, rather than an accurate representation of the situation. Jonie148 (talk) 11:58, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robbie Williams' rejoin in 2020 

message: This entire article reads like a fan wrote it. needs a complete overhaul. Iammrjam (talk) 10:21, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free! :) --Jonie148 (talk) 08:47, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  fan page 

message: :This is a blank request. Please use your words --Jonie148 (talk) 10:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2022