Talk:Orthodontics

message: I'm wondering how people treated bad orthodontia problems in ancient times when they used things like traditional Chinese medicine and accupuncture?  DyslexicEditor 22:49, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't this all a bit too long and technical? Maeglin 16:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, this article is strongly biased. The user Dr. Georg Risse inserted a vast amount of information which is not backed by sufficient evidence. He also added links to his own website as well as to that of his company.
212.240.16.7 15:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for information on ancient times 

message: may i ask why the U of Illinois at Chicago dental school is more notable than the others in ortho? also, for the lay person, a word or two about how fluoride therapy is related to ortho treatment would be helpful (braces makes you more susceptible to cavity and fluoride helps...etc.) Mct mht 04:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  see also links 

message: As a young teen, I took elective orthodontic work because it was considered a normal thing to do, to have "perfect" teeth. However, I feel compelled to warn off against this particular piece of Americana: this is a serious undertaking. The article isn't kidding about the possibility of wearing retainers indefinitely, i.e. for life. Because my case was not serious, the orthodontist recommended that I not extract any teeth, and in all perhaps that was a good call. But at the same time, it also means that my teeth will start crowding at the first opportunity, leading to chronic aches if I ever skip wearing my retainer for a few weeks. Choosing to take this procedure can be a lifetime commitment: know and understand what you are getting into. Of course, I understand that some people have serious problems with their teeth (Austin Powers, for example) -- and I'm not saying you should avoid it all costs. But at what price, beauty? The problem is that in America most kids get this at an age where vanity often overrides judgment. This is really a decision that should be made as an adult, especially if the procedure is elective for you (teeth don't have to be perfect, and if there's nothing particularly wrong about your smile or bite, decide carefully whether it's worth it to lose a unique part of yourself for the sake of conformity). 146.74.228.241 (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most teens are minors, in which cases the decision lies with the parents or legal guardians, not with the "young teens." Good parents should take their child's wishes into consideration of course, and as a practical matter childen who refuse treatment will seldom be treated against their will. But this is not really the place for big-brotherly advice. Try My Space.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.64.233 (talk) 03:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair warning to prospective patients 

message: A. This discussion page is not meant to be a forum about the artcile's subject (so the arguments above shouldn't even be here!)  If you want to argue about the effectiveness of one treatment over another there are pleanty of orthodontic websites to do that, but this is an article about the nature of orthondontics as it is practiced in the mainstream.  Of course you can mention 3rd party sources that reccommend one treatment over another, but don't be offended when someone includes another 3rd party source referencing an alternative.
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B. This article lacks a proper ammount of citations.  I especially find this odd considering how widespread Orthodntics is around the world.  Surely there are probably more sources than you can shake a stick at.  But right now, just one?  75.186.111.99 (talk) 22:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2 things 

message: This articles focuses too heavily on only one (or I guess you could say "three") methods of orthodontic treatment.  It does not give a broad enough base (overview) in the history, for full understanding.  It is far too generalized. (i'm not saying to be overspecific, but to be "more" specific.  There is only one definition of orthodontics given (and it is not sourced!) 70.61.247.31 (talk) 20:35, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality of Article

message: I don't understand this article. My niece started orthodontia treatment. I'm trying to find out whether she and her friends actually need orthodontia, and what the benefit is. I want to find the evidence for orthodontia. 
There's a concept recently of medicalization of normal conditions. A pharmaceutical company will identify "social anxiety disorder" as a disease, and market a drug to reduce social anxiety disorder. Other doctors will say that social anxiety disorder is just a normal part of life and treating it with a drug will do more harm than good.
What is the problem that orthodontia is supposed to solve? The entry says that orthodontia treats "malocclusion." Why is malocclusion a problem? Why is overbite a problem? Does it cause pain, discomfort, difficulty eating, periodontal disease, loss of teeth, or any objective harmful outcome? If not, why treat it? If so, what is the published evidence that orthodontia improves the outcome? 
Most people seem to get orthodontia for cosmetic reasons. When is it cosmetic and when is it needed? 
I'm prepared to believe orthodontia is beneficial, if there is peer-reviewed, published evidence. But I can't find any. Nbauman (talk) 23:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot see how this relates to the article under discussion. Surely we cannot expect an article on "Orthodontics" intended for the lay public to explain how dentists differentiate between cosmetic indications for orthodontics vs. more pressing concerns. It is sufficient that the article mentions both possibilities.Hanina (talk) 03:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the benefit? What's the evidence? 

message: Hi,
I would like to start a project with some students editing the Orthodontics page. Any suggestions on where to start? Dlcortho7889 (talk) 14:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing the Orthodontics page 

message: I've trimmed this article down significantly with the goal of summarizing and making the article accessible to the layperson. See this former version of this article, it had slowly accumulated so many technical paragraphs that it was unreadable. The article should of course be expanded, but we should have the essay Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable in mind :) – Thjarkur (talk) 00:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming 

message: I think the section on Invisalign should be completely removed. There's already another page on Clear aligners which goes more in-depth into the topic and doesn't seem so biased.
2001:8A0:6CC0:4C00:4685:FF:FE54:F9A2 (talk) 17:21, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The section on Invisalign reads like an ad 

message: why
are they so popular 68.206.26.69 (talk) 03:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  braces