Talk:Characters in the Realm of the Elderlings

message: Seems to me that this section is heavily angled toward Chade, where Fitz is the main character- reads to me to have been written by someone for whom Chade is a favourite character. I feel it needs a rewrite to refocus the section on Fitz. (For example, at current Fitz's bio is even centred around Chade/his relationship to him. Should really be the other way round, if we're not just going to describe each character as a seperate entity.)Himynameishelen (talk) 01:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Chade and the Farseer section

message: The family tree is technically incorrect, although open to opinion. Dutiful is biologically Fitz's son. It's not desperately in need of changing, but I thought that I would mention it.
:It's a complicated situation, Fitz is only Dutiful's father in the way a sperm donor is a father, the DNA is there, but in all official senses Verity is the father- a family tree lists accepted, official relationships, rather than technical ones, so to have Verity listed as the father is correct.Himynameishelen (talk) 23:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm, I just started reading "The Tawny Man" trilogy, and the fact that Dutiful is witted does make him more Fitz-y. Is there some way a secondary line could perhaps be drawn, joining Dutiful to both Verity and Fitz, with a demarkation explaining the duality of his conception? Although he's Verity's legitimate child it does seem sensible to link him to Fitz as well, considering the circumstances of his birth.Himynameishelen (talk) 16:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dutiful

message: I notice that we're going back and forth on some of the edits.  Would people mind if we kept the part about saving the world but removed the bit about the Whites and instead said that he doesn't consider himself a member of another race of beings? Ladlergo 15:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Therefore his DNA is not strictly human, meaning he's of another race.Himynameishelen (talk) 23:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fool 

message: This page is in great need of reformatting.  Ideas include:
*Resorting characters by trilogy, then into rank.
*Separating royalty by country.
*Ordering royalty by proper age/inheritance.
*Removing spoilers.
Ladlergo 22 December, 2005
*Removed major spoilers.
*Created a section for the animals, removing them from commoners
Dilir 00:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My belief is that this page should serve as a guide for people who are curious about the series, not as a collection of biographies for every character (that would be appropriate to individual pages).  The personal guideline I work by is that information should be (usually) limited to what's in the first book of each trilogy. Yes, Kettricken has the Wit, but it's hinted at in RA and AQ, and it doesn't become relevant to her character until the Tawny Man trilogy, and thus should not fall under the general Farseer trilogy heading. (And no offense, but I find some of your edits to be rather stilted.  I'm going to smooth them out.) Ladlergo 21:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The 203.79.72.82 IP address edits are not done by myself. --Featherfin 21:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that.  Ladlergo 18:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reformatting 

message: Would people like to divide up the sections?  Once we're done with the Farseer Trilogy (I think we're pretty close), we can divy up the Liveships Traders.  Perhaps one person gets the Vestrits and other major trader families, another gets the Rainwilders, etc.  Opinions?  Ladlergo 18:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. I'm happy to flesh out any section of the Liveship Traders really, including the more obscure entries. -- Featherfin 16:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone mind if I finish up the Farseers?  I'm happy to take any character suggestions, but I think we have most (if not all) of the people worth mentioning. Ladlergo 16:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Content creation

message: I'm wondering if Kyle Haven, Satrap Cosgo and Companion Serilla would be more suited to the Minor Chracters section, as they aren't consistantly prominent throughout the entire trilogy.
:I'd suggest separating the characters by social class/family, similar to what was done with the Farseers.  Some sections: Bingtown Traders, Rainwild Traders, Pirates, Serpents.  Ships could have their own section, but should certainly be mentioned with their trader families. Ladlergo 16:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Characters

message: I hope this won't be considered rude and/or spamming, but I wanted to let you know that I've started a separate wiki for Hobb's worlds. The current aim is to list only RotE characters, places and items, but it might be expanded to other stories later. Character profiles will be complete (including spoilers), and all characters, minor and major, will be listed. You're welcome to take a look and contribute at http://www.theplenty.net/wiki/
Please remove this message if it's considered not appropriate.
83.100.41.232 16:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to work off of stuff we have here.  Were you thinking of going with sumamries or detailed biographies? Ladlergo 19:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. :) Well, more like biographies where it's possible. The current "content" is mostly just a draft or a listing of characters that can be added upon though. 83.100.41.232 23:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Off-site wiki for all things Hobb

message: Near the beginning of Assassin's Apprentice it mentions that King Taker was the First king of the Six Duchies. Shouldn't he be at the top of the Farseer family tree? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.111.167.39 (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: King Taker

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message: This is an interesting, detailed article, but, in the absence of any evidence of a source for all of the information, it appears to be original research. The information sources need to be specified, and any material not documented should be removed. Thanks Tim Ross (talk) 11:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags added

message: According to the book assasins apprentice all nobility are supposed to have names that are virtues that the royalty would be incapable of betraying their virtues it bore. In all the books of the Tawney man trilogy and The Farseer trilogy all the Six Duchies nobility have virtues for names as do the Farseers except Fitzchivalry. My question is that when Kettricken married Prince Verity the author fails to mention if she took a name at all of a virtue.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donasy (talk • contribs) 18:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Kettricken

message: Could some1 plz modify the article (its pretty good) so that de mantainance templtes can be removeed. thank you wikipedia, James Fitzpatrick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.23.4.35 (talk) 00:08, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Get rid of the templates. plz 

message: I think this should either be moved from under The Farseer Trilogy to under The Tawney Man Trilogy since some of the information on the tree is specific to The Tawney Man Trilogy.  This would include Mishap the minstrel, Ellianna Blackwater, and Prince Prosper, since none of these character appear at all during The Farseer saga.  Also these names could be removed from the family tree in the Farseer section  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.118.146.98 (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Farseer Family Tree 

message: It should be mentioned in the fitzchivalry section that his face was put on the liveship paragon.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.98.67 (talk) 06:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to Fitzchivalry section. 

message: Unless I'm mistaken, Dutiful's biological father is FitzChivilry, not Verity.  Shouldn't this be reflected in the family tree? -- leuce (talk) 18:52, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biological father of Dutiful