Talk:King's College Harmonica Band

message: How can it be a copyright violation if the page was never copyrighted and it no longer exists? --Walter Görlitz 19:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean, "was never copyrighted"? All creative works (meeting certain criteria) are automatically protected under copyright law. And the fact that the text is no longer accessible via its original URL does not by any means indicate that it has been released into the public domain. —Caesura(t) 19:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true. The work must have a copyright notice to be considered copyrighted. It's the law. --Walter Görlitz 05:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true, that was a thing in the past, almost everything nowadays contain implicit copyright unless it is given up. --WinHunter (talk) 13:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WinHunter is correct. All signatories to the Berne Convention are required to have an automatic copyright law. It is against the terms of the agreement for a government to require registration in order for creative works to be protected. The United States only joined the Berne Convention in 1989, though, so if you're an American who's a few decades old, that may be why you don't know about this. (By contrast, much of Europe was under the Convention before the beginning of the twentieth century.) —Caesura(t) 14:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: but simply writing material does not make it copyrighted does it? Then anything I post on my refrigerator white board, which is in a public place, is copyrighted. While you do not have to seek copyright registration, you at least have to place notice somewhere on your work to indicate that you wish to have it copyrighted. I am a Canadian and I'm not sure what our standing to the copyright law is. Thanks for keeping abreast on current copyright laws though. --Walter Görlitz 17:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To the best of my understanding (and I should note that I am not a lawyer or legal expert by any stretch of the imagination), you do not have to place a notice on it. If you write a short story and post it on the company refrigerator, it is illegal for me to, for example, steal it, publish it in my literary magazine, and profit from it. Of course, it's a good idea to put a copyright notice on your work, especially on the Web, where people are more likely to "borrow" it, but I don't believe it's required. (If you're curious, Canada was a 1928 signatory to the Berne convention. This is from List of countries party to the Berne Convention by date of entry into force.) —Caesura(t) 17:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Found some references so I can stop talking out of my ass. :) A copyright notice is not required in Canada or the U.S. (links go to government Web sites), but the Canadian Intellectual Property Office mentions that it is required in some other countries. (It doesn't say which countries.) —Caesura(t) 18:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I checked out Hong Kong law too, since the content was written there, and it seems that the same applies there , , although I had to dig through the statute to find the information. —Caesura(t) 18:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a copyright violation

message: This is not a copyright violation as the original text was written by one of our band member. The original website was closed down long time ago and this document is a revision of the original one. --Scsum 19:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well, I will remove the copyright violation notice and retract my complaint. I apologize for any inconvenience. (However, you might want to take a look at our vanity guidelines if you are a band member.) —Caesura(t) 19:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am the originator of this document