Talk:Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

message: This article needs to be tidied. Sits69 17:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Come on next-gen RYNO! Anyways, I was wondering: Is Future actually in the name, or did whoever added it mean it's coming in the near future? Cuz if it's in the title, then maybe Ratchet and Clank will either be old (At least Ratchet, I really doubt Clank can age) or possibly dead, replaced by maybe a descendant or something... Hell, maybe even one of the clones from size matters... Oh well, I'll see when more info is released, cuz no matter what I'm not missing out on this game Midgitboy 16:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoo! 

message: Link
If someone can get copyright clearance, put it as the main image. --Jack Zhang 07:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New image from 1up

message: Wouldn't Captain Qwark be a double agent if he's working for the bad guy while giving tips to the good guys? 66.75.21.158 03:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quark: Double Agent? 

message: Anyone willing to do a screen capture of the unwatermarked trailer on insomniacgames.com? Jack Zhang 09:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trailer Screen capture 

message: Are there any sources which say the game is 720p, Insomniac were trying for 1080p with Resistance: Fall of Man.
1080p could be a very real possibility with Ratchet & Clank Future, so shouldn't the Picture format be unknown for the time being?
Evansam 14:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The game is out now at my writing and I see that the box does not say 1080i.  I will change this on the page.--WhereAmI (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture Format 

message: I read in EGM that Ratchet and Clank Future is the name of their whole new series for the PlayStation 3. Playstationdude 00:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Series 

message: Wasn't it confirmed to not be in this one?  Should we add something about that?
Actually it is not confirmed yet. Insomniac has been careful no to let out information on that.
Apparently they want to focus on a much bigger single player game so they wont release any info on it until multiplayer 
is confirmedJoebloggs93 08:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh noes! Why!? I was looking forward to buying PS3 and this game. Is there any reason to buy a PS3 now? It looks like I'm going to be getting XBOX 360 and Halo 3 now. Jecowa (talk) 12:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer 

message: Is it just me, or does the cover look a bit left-right stretched? Clank looks much wider than he should be. Machine758 09:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stretched pic 

message: the newest full moon show podcast has confermed 1080i
added to picture format  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.198.139 (talk) 01:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1080i 

message: We seem to have two separate bits dealing with the weapons.  Which should be kept?  --HQ 13:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapons 

message: Why the comment about the american rating in the opening paragraph? Maybe a similar comment could be made when the european ratings come out but on its own it seems kinda american-focused....or maybe its just me tired of seeing us-centric articles elsewhere on wiki? :(
John.n-irl 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating(ESRB) 

message: On the Full Moon show, they said that the gamestop demo was the E3 demo; but the one on the PSN was farther in the development. They both were the same level though, Metropolis.
Sonicjosh 03:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demo 

message: according to this site - [ http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2007/10/18-54] - the release date has moved back to th 23rd of october. i don't know if this is reliable or not. this is the only site i found this on. should the date be changed again?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.198.139 (talk) 20:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date Changed... Again? 

message: I'm about 80% of the way through the game, and so far there are tons of pop culture references to various scifi franchises, most notably Star Wars. I'll let other people note those, but one I picked up on was a reference to the Transformers movie (2007): On the elevator, after rescuing Talwyn, a sentry announces to "transport the war-bots to Sector 7". In Transformers, the organization that was holding a "war-bot"(Megatron) was named Sector 7.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.64.47 (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia: Star Wars, Transformers 

message: Now that the game has been out for some days, can someone who completed the game post a more lengthy plot? The current "Plot" section is pretty short, IMO.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.110.214.247 (talk) 11:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There really isn't much to the plot, but I'm sure a couple more details could be added. Once I finish my 2nd playthrough I'll stay focused into the storyline, looking for anything that could be added. FuzionZero 19:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any more plot details, please? 

message: Should there be mention or a section of the game on its replayability, which is common in R&C games. If nobody cares to add it in then I dont mind doing so, aslong as everyone is cool with that. FuzionZero 17:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean challenge mode? I've played this game all the way through (gotten EVERYTHING), and I would be glad to help. -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replayability? 

message: Why?JTBX 23:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gamespot 7.5 

message: In the article it says that Cronk & Zephyr represent the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 resectively. While I understand that Zephyrs routine system failure, and his assault rifle-like shooting represent the 360, I don't understand how Cronk represents the PS3. Can anyone help me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.165.97 (talk) 01:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to know as well. I'd never thought of Cronk and Zephyr as symbols of the two gamings consoles, and I still don't see how the relation is there. Anyone care to explain? -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 23:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cronk & Zephyr 

message: In Europe, it's known as: "Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction". I suggest we add this to the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.165.97 (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was mentioned at the lead, but we have some anon IP editor that comes by and tries to revert the name to just the EU name (w/o "Future").  I've rewritten the lead as to have the EU name right up there after the NA name. --MASEM 13:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.167.217 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Name 

message: I would like to point out a small list of inaccuracies that I erked me. Some of these are minor, and I would rather make sure everyone is fine with them before learning later that they are indeed true.
"[Clank] also discovers he has a soul."
*After playing through the whole game many times, I think that I would have noticed something remarkable like that.
"Ratchet wins, and destroys the Dimensionator, causing it to collapse itself and the planet into a black hole. As the planet is ripped to pieces around them, Tachyon claims he is the only living person who knows Ratchet's real name and his purpose, and as he is sucked in, yells that they can't get rid of him so easily (hinting he has a way to survive the black hole). The Cragmites are dragged in with him, but Ratchet and Clank narrowly escape."
*First of all, the Dimensionator wasn't destroyed, and if it was, then it was never portrayed. What the article is telling me is that the Dimensionator was destroyed immediately after Tachyon's defeat. Not so; in fact, Ratchet - after repairing it with a replacement part that the Plumber gave them - uses the Dimensionator to get out of the void. The "planet", I believe to be an asteroid, or rock of some sort; the landscape that Ratchet fights in is already in pieces, and it's clear that it is too small to be considered a planet. The second part of the battle with Tachyon takes place in a rift the Dimensionator opens, and thus I consider it implausible they are still on Fastoon.
:The Cragmites aren't ever shown being "dragged in with [Tachyon]". That fact may be convenient if Insomniac ever feels the need to introduce Cragmite enemies in another game, and thus I think it is isn't absolute that the Cragmites are gone.
*I've never heard of the character Gummel, unless you are referring to the vendors that are in the game. I don't think it's a hoax, but rather some fan fiction used to explain the vendors' origins.
*I don't think that Ratchet and his father were left behind, rather they chose to stay. Tachyon comments: "Cowards! All of them! There were only two brave enough to stay behind: the guardian of the Dimensionator, and his infant son." 
:Feel free to correct that quote if it is wrong, as it is from memory.
*"Talwyn's robotic guardians who despise each other. They are meant to represent the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 respectively, constantly mocking each other for their technical faults and praising their own abilities. They had a third partner named Willy (repersenting the Wii), but he was K.I.A. due to his bad habit of jumping up and down and waving his arms whenever he saw any action, so he never appears in the game."
:I think that this is just a guess as to what Cronk and Zephyr might symbolize, but "Willy" seems like a satirical attack on the Wii.
:: Complaining! I added a reference for this comment. And the Willy thing is because "a smartass journalist asked us what happened to the Wii robot, so we gave a smart answer". --JamesBrownJr (talk) 16:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. It's not that consider this stuff rubbish, it just needs proper backing.  -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 13:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Inaccuracies 

message: "Unlike Going Commando and Up Your Arsenal, the player cannot unlock weapons from previous games using a memory card, due to their having a much lower polygon count."
I'm not that familiar with PS3, but my understanding was that you couldn't use PS2 memory cards on it. I assume that would be the reason why they didn't include this feature. --JamesBrownJr (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you can, if you have a USB adapter for a memory card (from Sony). This was to enable people to use their memory from the older systems.  -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

text: They'd look awkward and out of place.  The real reason, though, is that Insomniac did want to exclude players from getting those things, as you need the adapter to get to them.  --HQ (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If they were bringing an old weapon into the new game, I doubt they'd bring in the exact weapon, polygons and all. They'd probably adapt it to fit the new look and change it to suit the game. Still, that is a point that they wouldn't want to force people to buy an adapter for the sake of a weapon. The one I got was fairly expensive. -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 02:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

text: That polygon count thing is retarded.  Seriously.  The weapons included in later games were entirely new, but were only unlocked using data from memory cards.  How the hell would the game load weapons from savegame data?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DizzyTech (talk • contribs) 01:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlock weapons from previous games 

message: Is it true that Clank does get captured by the Zoni, and that's it? 75.134.82.172 (talk) 04:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. We assume that the problem will be resolved in the sequel(s).   -Koryu Obihiro (talk) 13:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bleh, that stinks. Hopefully the sequel won't be in development hell or canceled. 75.134.82.172 (talk) 02:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it will. I think they probably have a timeline written out a couple of games ahead to make sure everything fits together already.--Playstationdude (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending 

message: It should be added that it recieved some backlash for not bringing a lot of new things to the game that worked well, as said in the review on gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetclank/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.86.52.122 (talk) 12:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: i believe that only in the us it is called ratchet and clank FUTURE tools of destruction while in the rest of the world it is called ratchet and clank tools of destruction. so is it a new series????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpil237 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Series??? 

message: Hi, i've carried out 2 edits so far on the plot section in an attempt to summarise it, but detailing the entire plot will still be a very long article. I'm  leaning towards scrapping the plot section altogether and putting in a "Plot summary" section which will very briefly detail the major events in the game. Haracas (talk) 06:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot summarisation  

message: It won't be made for other gaming systems like the PsP or the PS2?--68.3.18.11 (talk) 16:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, PS3 only? 

message: "Recognizing that Tachyon plans to use the Dimensionator to bring back the Cragmites from banishment, Ratchet and Clank recover it first, but Captain Qwark shows up and tries to destroy it himself; the blunder allows Tachyon to recover the device."
What blunder?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megaman en m (talk • contribs) 15:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More detail please? 

message: - I will likely add some to the article from this but if anyone wants to go ahead... --MASEM 18:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link for development info 

message: Can somebody rewrite the Mukow glitch section. My grammer isn't good. HK22 (talk) 04:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This glitch isn't really as notable as the HDD one - the source being only a board posting.  The HDD was more notable as it prevented people from playing the game completely and had to be remedied. --MASEM 05:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Ok then. — HK22 \my contributions/ (my talk) 08:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mukow glitch section 

message: "The weapon it upgrades into (the Alpha Canon) is the most powerful in the game's arsenal in terms of single shots with a power level of over 9,000."
I just looked up the actual level, and it is actually ~8,800; but nice try whoever got that in there  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.139.92 (talk) 05:55, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did anyone else seriously not notice? 

message: I think that section should be removed as noted here with some diffs and an explanation. In its current state, it doesn't belong. One section devoted to a small issue that didn't really draw any criticism ("near universal acclaim"). All it needs is a brief mention in the lead (like there already is) and anything that may touch on it from a review in the reception section. It isn't important. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:58, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The glitch may not be notable to be mentioned. As the source suggests, the HDD glitch is a minor glitch. Extensive coverage like this is completely unnecessary. AdrianGamer (talk) 08:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Can a site like "shacknews" even be considered a RS, even by WP:VG/RS standards? C'mon. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 19:42, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: oops, consider me corrected. Still, I don't really think it's something that needs coverage in its own section/paragraph unless there were other significant problems with the game that merit mentioning per the opinion of RSes. WP:UNDUE and all, not to mention the structural problems it causes with the prose, with being a tiny paragraph like that all cordoned off from the rest. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 20:28, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So. It should be removed now? If anybody else was to come join this discussion they'll probably agree that it should be removed. Three editors here think it should be removed and those two editors at the Teahouse seemed to imply they think it should be removed. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think you can remove it now. Perhaps link here (or at least say "per talk") in your edit summary. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 22:14, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of HDD glitch section

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