Talk:24 Hours of Daytona

message: Hello, could somebody please update the logo file for this event? I work for the Speedway and therefore Wikipedia considers it a conflict of interest. All I am asking is to update the logo and add the next race date, January 30-31, 2016. If you need me to send you the logo file, please just ask. Thanks! Mattvinson  —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo Update 

message: I'm doing some research on this now, appears it originally began in 1962 as a 3 hour race, and expanded into the current 24 hour format in 1966. - Polarism 10:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Previous Races

message: "Frequent winners"? Somebody needs to clarify. From what I've read (not citable...), only 2 marques won the 24h more than once, Porsche & Jag.  Trekphiler 16:12, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Frequent Winners?

message: Unfortunately, the only online discussion of the debate seems to be BBS based, so I didn't list it in the article as reference, but it's here:
http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?postid=2240416
http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50075&highlight=gurney+daytona
I'm not making it up. Gzuckier 17:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  gurney gravity vs. electric power: 

message: Let's look at other American series, shall we? As established, all NASCAR races are in full-form with sponsors. Champ Car races on Wikipedia are a mixture - half are named generically (but with the full sponsor title in the lead graph, as in Long Beach Grand Prix but Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach in the lead. The rest are named with full sponsorship titles. IndyCar Series races are universally named with the full sponsor title in it. As an American-based series, I propose that the Grand-Am races will all follow this convention, pending, of course, getting names for the races that aren't named (Grand-Am tends to lag on that.) FCYTravis 08:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and as an aside... I had to write two redirects just to get that to work. That's pathetic. Our motor racing coverage sucks. Can we stop bickering over petty crap like this and get back to writing articles? I'll try and have Grand-Am race stubs up by the end of the week. FCYTravis 08:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually IndyCar Series races are not universally named.  Indianapolis 500.  Important motor race with history that has had some "presented by" sponsors over the years but has an easily recognizable common name.  Champ Car does not have any races with long histories besides the Long Beach Grand Prix. The359 08:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Indianapolis 500 has never had a full-on title sponsor. At any rate, they don't currently have a "presented by" sponsor, so the point is moot. Your claim about Champ Car having no races with long histories is utterly ignorant. This year was the final running of Champ Car's annual race at the Milwaukee Mile, the oldest continuously operating paved oval in America. Champ Car had raced there continuously since 1980 - and predecessors, much longer ago than that. The Lexmark Indy 300 has been running since 1991. The Grand Prix of Toronto (located at Molson Grand Prix of Toronto until the sponsorship expired), since 1986. Road America, since 1982. Hardly spring chickens. You need to brush up a bit. FCYTravis 08:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim was to a specific title of a race being long lasting, not a race itself.  The race at the Milwaukee Mile has never had a long term, famous name like the Indianapolis 500.  Nor are the Lexmark Indy 300 and Molson Grand Prix of Toronto internationally famous races to the degree that the 24 Hours of Daytona is. The359 09:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For more than half the existence of the Rolex 24, it's had a sponsor name. How long does Rolex have to keep the sponsorship for it to be "long-lasting" in your judgement? Twenty years? Thirty? Forty? It's already kept the sponsorship for nearly 15 - with no signs that it will be dropped anytime soon. FCYTravis 09:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You seem to be forgetting one thing. For many years, the Daytona 24 Hours wasn't strictly an American race, it was a round of the World Sportscar Championship. In spite of having an official sponsor, it was still called "Daytona 24 Hours" when reported by media, and was entered in official FIA calendars as the Daytona 24 Hours. --Pc13 10:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text:  Just adding that NASCAR has a problem that doesn't apply to most sports car racing series: some tracks have more than one round per season, so the sponsor name helps in differentiating between them. Granted, so does Grand-Am, but those rounds (Daytona 250 Miles and Watkins Glen 200 Miles) have different durations. --Pc13 10:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It doesn't matter how long Rolex sponsors it, the race is still the 24 Hours of Daytona, regardless of how much money Rolex paid to say otherwise.  It is the single most recognizable name to identify this race with due to it's long, and very important, history.  The other races you mentioned are nowhere near the international recognition that the 24 Hours of Daytona is.  The359 10:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that 24 Hours of Daytona is the correct name, because the sponsor most likely will change and many other races are named without the sponsor, for example the ones in the article (see the 24h history section). James086Talk | Contribs 12:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other American series 

message: Do we have consensus yet on what to title this article?  Even if we don't, this page needs extensive clean-up due to the multitude of double redirects that have been created by this mess. The359 00:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to offer a compromise in the spirit of the Long Beach Grand Prix. To wit, the page will be located at 24 Hours of Daytona in deference to what I must admit are an overwhelming number of links to that title. The name in bold, however, will be retained as whatever the current actual race title is, for clarity and consistency. As in, The Rolex 24 at Daytona (also known as the 24 Hours of Daytona) is a 24-hour endurance race... FCYTravis 01:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine by me, the order in which the bolded title is listed doesn't matter as much to me.  The359 03:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense. Go for it. 4u1e 08:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus 

message: I'm going to try and figure out the feasability of expanding the list of winners to show more than just the "Overall" winners. Since the race has for years been comprised of multiple classes, multiple winners have always been awarded. Research is ongoing, and I think it can be cleanly integrated into a new or updated table. Doctorindy 17:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is mostly in the fact that not only are there are large amount of classes that have existed over the years, but also the fact that including class winners would take up a large amount of space.  Hopefully we can get some individual results pages for each year of the 24 Hours posted, like the 24 Hours of Le Mans results which have all been posted now.  That way we can at least have the class winners listed there, even if they aren't listed on the main 24 Hours of Daytona page. The359 19:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, as I look at the lists, I see an overwhelming number of classes over the years. I can't come up with any idea on how to cleanly sort them into a table. I think, however, the text should discuss the fact that there are several classes that comprise the race, and that each class declares a winner. Doctorindy 22:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individual Class winners 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Rolex24hours.gif

message: In 1972, due to the energy crisis, the race was shortened to 6 hours, while for 1974 the race was cancelled altogether.
: As we can see here (1973 oil crisis), the energy crisis began in october 1973. So, are we sure the 1972 race was shortened due to this problem?  Woodcote (talk) 15:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daytona 24 and energy crisis 

message: I notice the dagger for the longest race distance has placed next to the 1970 race with 4439km. However the 1982 race is listed as 4443km. Is there a typo or does this footnote need to be shifted? Lemon martini (talk) 00:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Be Bold and add them in miles if you feel they belong. -Drdisque (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest race distance 

message: Sorry if this is not the right way to raise this.... The track map is wrong.  For the 24 the bus stop chicane layout uses the first entry (as shown) but the exit through the middle (shown greyed out).  I hope that's understandable?! Oli.meggitt (talk) 21:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The map is correct as is. 184.19.162.153 (talk) 02:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Map 

message: Due to the demise of the Pontiac brand name, the TRG cars ran skinned as the 2009 Camaro  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChadRLarson (talk • contribs) 19:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pontiac 

message: IS anyone available to help update the logo used on the right column of the page? I work for the Speedway and have don't exactly understand the editing process of a Wikipedia page. If you need a source file url, feel free to use the following: https://www.daytonainternationalspeedway.com/~/media/C981D55F4C9B4731BBFAA08CAD9BF81A.ashx  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattvinson (talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo Update 

message: Both prototype and GT classes have changed with the merger of Grand AM with ALMS.  Plus, the merger isn't mentioned. Will (Talk - contribs) 02:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class update needed 

message: Chronology is fundamental to write the history. I found lack of sense: something starting with a comparison to 24 Le mans instead of dated events.  Wispyrainunder (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: The track map needs to be changed. The bus stop is called the Le Mans Chicane. Wolf O'Donnel (talk) 06:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track Map