Talk:Comparative religion

message: Is there any consensus of updating the romanization of this? The longer it refers to "Tao" the more people are going to mispronounce it. Also, if that's not acceptable then the article on "De" should be changed to "Te" for consistency's sake.192.160.165.63 05:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, the spelling with t is too entrenched, unfortunately. Also, people will mispronounce it anyway: the sound transcribed with <d> in Pinyin is pronounced , a voiceless unaspirated stop, which doesn't exist in Standard English except allophonically after /s/. If you pronounce it as , actually, ur doing it wrong. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Taoic Religions" 

message: Religion is an hypothesis designed to find peace-of-mind. 
When fleetingly found it is called Blessedness, Grace, Bliss, Nirvana, etc; when lost again, anguish.
:Descriptions of a Religion are properties of that Religion; not its essence, which for all of them, is seeking to find peace-of-mind.
Yesselman 22:11, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This section wsa removed from the article... It's original research, lack encyclopedic-style information, links to an external website inappropriately (yours, I might add, violating the Wikipedia:Spam policy), has lots of improper capitalization, and just really makes no sense for this article... I see from your contribution history that you are trying similar things across a variety of articles... Please go check out the Wikipedia:Community Portal and read up on what this encyclopedia is for, how it works, what its policies are, and so forth. DreamGuy 00:02, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do. Yesselman 13:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: There are a couple of inaccuracies that I've found in this article, namely in the Islamic column. Most Islamic scholars agree that Christians are 'true believers' led astray to no fault of their own. As such, one would have to think that Islam is not the only way to reach God. Also, Historically, Muslims allowed other religious communities within their states. They were some flourished under Islamic rule, however, they were far from equal. Taxes were imposed upon the communities and the people in these communities were considered second class citizens. One would argue that this is not equal.
Steven Pound 19:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracies 

message: As mentioned above, it is difficult to judge a religion that was founded centuries ago, according to the 20th century values, specially on such newborn concepts like Women Equality. However, keynotes in the scriptures of these religions can help you understand the status that women hold in the religion's ideology.
For example, in the Quran of Islam, the equality of Men and Women in their freedom and accountability is highlighted in many verses:
4:124 If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them.
16:97 Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has Faith, verily, to him will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions. 
3:195 And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another".
In this verse God, not only highlights equality of accountability in the Hereafter but also, emphasizes the fact that Men and Women are equal components of the community.
As for social equality and equality of rights, this has also been highlighted:
2:228 And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable.
Furthermore, oppression against women -which was very common among the tribal values, back then- was prohibited in Islam:
4:19 O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. 
The prophetic traditions are also a valuable source of highlighting justice to women. In one of the prophetic traditions, Mohammad said: "They [Women] are the equals of Men." Eqaulity and justice to Women, in Islam, is not considered an act of charity or mercy towards a marginalized minority. On the contrary, the rights of Women and their equal status is as sacred as that of Men. The practice of these principles are affected, inevitably, by the community in which they are practiced, as culture surely affects people's interpretation of religious scriptures. In muslim countries nowadays, for example, Women are still fighting for their rights in the patriarchial communities. Ironically enough, they fight for their rights relying on the same verses of the Quran that God has revealed centuries ago. That is: God has liberated Women in Islam, 1400 years before the recent Women Liberation movements.
--Hazem M. Shoirah 08:13, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equality for Women 

message: I strongly disagree with inclusion of the table. This table strikes me as simplistic and original research, because based on personal generalization of practices and personal interpretations of scripture. For example, there are many different sects in Hinduism and it seems impossible to me to say "yes" for all these sects.Andries 20:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that re-insertion of the table can only be justified if each cell in the table is made as an attributed opinion with a reference to a good source. Andries 20:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The table with comparisons

message: I feel as though referring to the collective religions of Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Hinduism as "Indian" religions is a bit of misnomer.  It fails to take into account the foothold that these religions have in half of Asia.  Further, and more importantly, it sounds (to the average passerby) to mean that they are bound together by a simple location (of which you can say the same thing to Abrahamic religions, at least in origin, calling them Middle Eastern or Canaanite, and have already referred to the Taoic as such (i.e. East Asian)), rather than being noted for having some distinctly similar principles (i.e. Dharma).  It's hard to make neutral arguments when you refer to different groups of the same category when you are not using the same standards.
Furthermore, I've noticed that, as recent as a few weeks ago (I think), the names have been systematically changed from Dharmic to Indian for some reason.
Is there any reason why this is happening, and why it is being classified as "Indian" other than the reasons I've stated? Brokenwit (talk) 06:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian vs. Dharmic 

message: Perhaps something specific should be mentioned?   Faro0485 (talk) 07:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islam and comparative religious studies 

message: Shamanism and Animism are recurring types of woldview and ritual components that are studied within comparative religion. Why would they be excluded from this page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.57.122.152 (talk) 05:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Shamanism and Animism" 

message: Why isn't someone who is considered a pioneer of comparative religion not mentioned here?
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faro0485 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Comparative as in comparing and finding similarities. Rather than suspension of judgment as in the case of Outlines of Pyrrhonism as it is of philosophy not religion. And that goes for Sallustius as well as it criticisms other religion. Of course you two not hearing about that is a sure sign of the bigotry in some universities about anything Islamic, don't you think so? But either way, Al Biruni needs to be mentioned. Faro0485 (talk) 15:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biruni 

message: Hello there,
I am writing on behalf of Prof Arvind Sharma of McGill University, in Montreal, Canada. Prof. Sharma keeps a website focused specifically on comparative religions and religious tolerance, and he is very much a specialist in the field. Is there any way a link to his website could be posted on on the Wikipedia Comparative religion page? The site could potentially be an excellent resource.
You'll find his site at http://comparativestudyofreligion.wordpress.com/
74.59.79.169 (talk) 13:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prof Sharma's website 

message: Two comments:
1. When I first came to this topic, I expected to find a description of an academic discipline, aka religious studies. But these basic questions are un-addressed: how are religions compared? What are the dimensions or common characteristics of religions upon which comparisons can be made? I'm not one to propose these, but I'd think that all religions have beliefs, practices, and the basis for their authority. And many more characteristics, I'm sure.
2. In the book The End and Meaning of Religion, we are warned against reifying religions -- treating them as objects of study. A discussion of comparative religion as a discipline should include critical commentary about the entire enterprise. And if the author cautions us in using terms like "Hinduism" because of the false impression that there exists a thing with that name that can be studied, how much more careful we should be about using higher level abstractions like "Taoic" and etc. 
In short, the current article has not enough about the discipline itself, the methodology and approach, motivation and criticism, of comparative religious studies, and yet offers the results of such comparison without foundation. --Tedlau (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be about methodology 

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thread_title:  These search results are interesting.... 

message: Hello all,
I search an article 'Comparative theology' and I found this article. I think Comparative theology and comparative religion is different. Comparative theology is a terminology in theological studies which trying to learn deeply about another religion and then see our religion with new eyes. Comparative religion is a terminology in studies of religions that learn about many religions and usually not to deep. The purpose are different to: comparative theology means to deepening faith of person who learning it from her/his faith perspectives. Comparative religion means to know another religions and beliefs, same as fenomenology religions. 
Sorry if I couldn't speak it well, maybe y'all could know it more from Francis X Clooney who is one of the founder of comparative theology school. And I need that two separate because there is an article about comparative theology in Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia that need an interwiki (Comparative theology in Indonesian languange). Thank you for your attention. Hope I give my message well.
:55hans (talk) 02:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparative theology = comparative religion?? 

message: This section needs to be rewritten. It has a very high Muslim bias now, and an almost exclusive focus on Islamic topics. "Tahrif" (a fine point of Islamic doctrine) is discussed, but "Incarnation" and Crucifixion (of vital importance in comparative Abrahamic religion and the source of much historical animosity between) or "Redemption" (varying views between the religions, or "salvation" in general), or the Two Temples (focus of ancient Judaism, holy ground for Muslims/Dome of the Rock) are not. JohnChrysostom (talk) 14:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abrahamic religion 

message: Why is china almost 100% Dharmic? And why is French Guiana black when the rest of France is not? Bgagaga (talk) 21:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: There are lists and spaces for lists in the footers, and also space in the box at the right. This should not be an article of lists. We should find a place for the lists, make sure everything is in its place, and delete them from the article.Botteville (talk) 08:31, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists of religions

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: last I heard Hinduism descended from the Proto-Indo-European mythology and so should have its category renamed. If there is to be a category for specifically Indian religions it should be referring to purely Dravidian traditions.
first time editing btw :)
Jamesthefrank (talk) 14:54, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian Religions? 

message: Hello!
I added some more information regarding Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, and Chinese religions alongside a little bit of information from Buddhism and Hinduism. Feel free to review that and make any changes if needed! I believe that the next step for the article is to elaborate upon the geographical list with more information on religions from areas like America, Africa, and Oceania. India is another area that I believe could use some work. I also think that it would be great if we could add a section to link this with comparative mythology and Proto-Indo-European religion, but I couldn't find enough sources for that on my own.
--Mtstace (talk) 06:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions and Other Religions 

message: Hindi 223.180.187.1 (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  COMPARATIVE RELIGION 

message: I'm very aware that this is something that is much easier to say than to remedy - but the "History" section needs a substantial amount of work. "Comparative religion" as an academic discipline, even while now considered a somewhat outmoded prototype for the modern study of religion, is a historically really important element of the history of ideas and the development of modern thought. Accordingly, the rather brief gloss here, which doesn't give any real sense of the specific history of comparative religion as a named discipline, does quite a disservice to the topic.
Further, the emphasis throughout the article on examples of comparisons which could be made between religious traditions would appear to rather miss the point - i.e. an article on "comparative religion" should be focused on what "comparative religion" is/was, not synthesis or original research doing ad hoc/amateur comparative religion. 
I'm far from an expert on the topic, but I'd have enough access to basic relevant academic materials that I may be able to contribute something of use here down the line. But I suppose I just want to flag the fact that this seems to me like quite a major issue running through the article which needs serious addressing, and would be curious to know whether others agreed here. Pseudo-Pseudo-Dionysius (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scant history section, and broader issue