Talk:Sensei

message: How is Sensei prononced?--Light current 01:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sen-say. The 'n' is barely heard tho. kinda like se-say. ~Sushi 07:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I have also seen it spelled "sensee", with the last letter being equated to "ē".  When I confronted my Japanese instructor, I was told that the romanization of it as "sensei" is technically incorrect, and that it should be sensee or sensē. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 22:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yea, I heard it too from my techer (Se n se e) but when it is (se e) the socond (e) is (i), thats from sensei is. (for other example (ho n to o) second (o) changes to (u) (hontou) )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.72.243.140 (talk) 10:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: * "先聖" also translates to "Sensei", but literally means "anicent sage" or "Confucius". Fractyl 19:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It translates to “sensei”? It’s pronounced that way, but it translates (into English, at any rate) as “ancient sage” and usually refers to Confucius. But it has absolutely nothing to do with the word covered by this article, and the kanji are not alternates for 先生. The coincidence of pronunciation is just that: a coincidence. Nothing more, nothing less.  Jim_Lockhart 05:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Suite yourself. But 先聖 is not an archaic version of 先生, and the coincidence of pronunciation is just that. This is not at all a rare phenomenon in Japanese; in fact, it is the Chinese that you should be tracking down. Whether 先聖 and 先生 are pronounced the same in Chinese, I do not know. In any case, if you introduce into the article your assumption about the two character strings being related or variant “spellings” of the same word, you will have to substantiate the assertion with a reliable source as per WP:ATT. All other discussion is irrelevant to Wikipedia and does not belong here. Jim_Lockhart 07:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As you have pointed out, they are two different words, which happen to be pronounced the same in Japanese. In Chinese they are not pronounced the same. --Explosivo (talk) 12:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Kanji

message: The term 'Martial art' is a used here to to cover both concepts judo literal translates as 'Gentle way' but is a martial art called 'Gentle way' the differentiation is discussed in the article Japanese martial arts. --Nate1481 14:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Japanese martial ways]] vs [[Japanese martial arts]] 

message: Can someone replace the main photo. Honestly, the photo looks like a young apprentice warming up for a tournament, not like an experienced marital arts expert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.33.74 (talk) 09:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main photo 

message: Hello Everyone. I must file my objection to the very prominent references to "Zen Buddhism" and even a specific cult within that religion. These references are totally out of place, irrelevant and have no place here whatsoever. There is no justification for these very prominent references, which imply that the term sensei has some special association with Zen. I've been studying Japanese 42 years, have lived in Japan for 32 of those years and worked as a professional translator for 30 years. The term sensei has no more special association with Zen than it does in the context of martial or other arts, education and innumerable other facets of Japanese society. Check any Japanese dictionary and there is no special mention of Zen or Buddhism. Neither is there on the Japanese page for sensei on Wikipedia. The latter only notes differences in the Chinese usage. That is, the kanji used for sensei (先生) correspond to ordinary forms of address such as "Mr" or "Ms" (先生 = xiansheng in Pinyin, or -san -さん in Japanese) while the Chinese term for teacher (in an education context only, however) is laoshi (老師), which in Japanese happens to correspond rōshi, which in a Zen context is commonly translated as "master" or "the venerable...."  But this entry concerns the word sensei, not rōshi, in which case a reference to Zen would be justified since the word has effectively entered the English language and even in Japanese is for the most part used only in association with Zen and (I think) the Tendai Sect, though I'm not sure about the latter. In any case, the religious reference is not justified here, in my view. I certainly hope that no one is allowing their desire to promote their religion of choice to trump the need for NPOV on Wikipedia. Gunnermanz (talk) 02:35, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Zen and Sanbo Kyodan Out of Place