Talk:Speculative fiction

message: Not everything stated in this definition is correct.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 2005-05-09T17:38:49. (talk)  66.61.53.63 (talk)
:Please define and describe what you see as wrong - otherwise why should your comment be considered?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackiespeel (talk • contribs)  2005-08-11T10:05:19
: Let me try. The basic definition of speculative fiction as fiction that departs from reality is passingly odd. All fiction departs from reality; that is the very meaning of the word fiction. Indeed, to speculate means trying to take a step back and contemplate certain aspects of reality from a distant or detached vantage point. Subsequently, in the resulting fiction (which is inherently free of any slavish duty to strict accuracy or adherence to reality), those aspects of reality are presented in a heightened and often distorted form. The contemplative aspect may be one of delving into a substratum, or of a relating to universal archetypes, or of extrapolation; and typical results are, respectively, horror, fantasy, and sci-fi, although all of the above may occur in any combination. Both fears and dream fulfilment figure prominently.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:6C58:E74F:F368:C5D9 (talk) 08:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Not all correct

message: The lead states that speculative fiction contains supernatural or futuristic elements, and that this unmbrella genre includes horror. Although most horror films include such elements, there are horror films which don't. These include: Psycho, The Wicker Man, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, The Silence of the Lambs, Scream, American Psycho, Saw, Hostel and Sorority Row. Are films in that category not speculative fiction, despite being horror? If so, the article should clarify that not all horror fiction is speculative fiction. Jim Michael (talk) 05:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've previously tried to change the lead to a more encompassing definition, but my edits were always reverted. - Alumnum (talk) 18:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Horror fiction]] 

message: There is incorrect information about Hippolytus (play) either here or in the article about the play.  Here it says, "Euripides (ca. 480–406 BCE) whose play Medea seems to have offended Athenian audiences when he fictionally speculated that shamaness Medea killed her own children instead of their being killed by other Corinthians after her departure, and whose play Hippolytus, narratively introduced by Aphrodite, Goddess of Love in person, is suspected to have displeased his contemporary audiences because he portrayed Phaedra as too lusty."
First, this is not a sentence.  There is no predicate in it; it's just one long subject.  Second, according to Hippolytus (play), the play which offended Athenians has been lost, and we have no way of knowing whether Aphrodite was involved in it.  There are two Hippolytus plays according to the article, the one by Euripides which we have, and a lost one that offended Athenians.
I don't know which is wrong, but in any case, this article doesn't explain how Hippolytus falls into the category of speculative fiction, only that it offended people.  Is that really the most important thing? FideliaE (talk) 13:24, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect information about Hippolytus 

message: I have a question rather than an edit. This is my first interaction with Wikipedia, so if I am off base in making a query, I apologize.
The article states that "This catch-all genre includes, but is not limited to, science fiction, fantasy, horror, slipstream," etc.  My question relates specifically to horror.  Is it considered that all horror fits within speculative fiction? For example, how do types of horror like Crime Horror, Survival Horror, Historical Horror, Slasher Horror, and Disaster Horror fit within speculative fiction? Does this depend on what the definition of the word "speculative" is?  (This question is asked in the context of devising submissions language for an anthology that contains science fiction, fantasy, and horror). The direction of my thoughts at the moment is that Horror is its own super-genre (if that is a term) that contains within it many different horror types, some of which include speculative fiction and some which do not. All thoughts are welcome, especially from whoever moderates the article content.
(I see someone made a related statement under Horror fiction, but my goal is to gain clarification and insights from feedback, not to make a definitive statement.)
DreamForgeOne (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Question on Horror Fiction within Speculative Fiction