Talk:Red dirt music

message: I agree with TuckerResearch that the article describes a genre that is usually affiliated with Texas rather than Oklahoma.  The term "Red Dirt" seems to be used in popular contexts (e.g., on XM radio's X-Country or KHYI out of Plano, TX to refer to only a handful of bands from OK such as Cross Canadian Ragweed, Stoney Larue, and No Justice.  Musically, there seems to be no great distinction between artists in this genre and those that are often referred to as Texas Country or "hard country."  Seeing that the better known artists in listed on this page (save for CCR and Stoney Larue), the biggest of these artists (Smith Music Group), and the "elder statesmen" (Ray Wylie Hubbard and Robert Earl Keen) are all out Texas and strongly associated with that state, I think the Red Dirt moniker is inapt.  Texas country or hard country seem more appropriate.  I think it's better to talk about the Red Dirt "scene" rather than genre, much as the word is used to describe groups of artists from Austin or Houston.
For the record, I'm a Midwesterner living in Virginia, so I have no dog in the TX/OK fight.
Not that it should affect things either way, since (once again) Red Dirt and Texas Country are not the same thing, but for the sake of setting the record straight, Ray Wylie Hubbard is from Oklahoma and made it big in Texas.  Inversely, Bob Wills was from Texas and made it big in Oklahoma.  There are obviously a lot of artists with ties to both states.   Even Woody Guthrie, the spritual father of Red Dirt music, lived in Pampa, Texas for a few years between his time in Oklahoma and California. 71.115.91.118 01:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "That state"?  Yeah, you sure ain't from Texas! 75.92.62.160 (talk) 03:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Texan than Oklahoman 

message: I agree, a lot of good music comes out of Oklahoma, but I'm saying most people don't call it "Red Dirt Music," they call it "Texas Country" or "Texas Music."  I too love Stoney Larue.  I am objecting to calling it "Red Dirt Music," or this quote from the article: "Red Dirt is a rising genre of music based in and around Stillwater, Oklahoma."  That is patently false.  And "Stillwater is the 'Nashville' of Red Dirt music"?  You can replace Stillwater with Fort Worth, Austin, or Lubbock and it would be more truthful, but probably still not correct.  It is a flexible "genre" out of many bases.  But "Red Dirt Music"?  There are Texas Music Charts: http://www.texasmusicchart.com/ - there is a Texas Music Magazine: http://www.texasmusicchart.com/.  There is no such thing for "Red Dirt Music."
I am for merging this article with Texas County and noting that it is also called "Red Dirt Music" in some circles, especially those out of Oklahoma.  Also, the Red Dirt article is just a list of band and artist names, but the Texas Country article is actually an encyclopedia article.
Gene Rhea Tucker
TuckerResearch 20:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree, but.... 

message: Check this guy out he is really good my 2nd favorite next to Waylon.And he is real country. Ihatebubblegumcountry 18:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jarrod Birmingham

message: An explanation, like in that recent edit summary that reverted my removal of him, in the article about why Woody is included in the list would be very helpful. Katr67 15:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Woody Guthrie 

message: I have added substantial content, references and images to this article and felt that List of Red Dirt bands needed to be a separate article.  Kmzundel (talk) 01:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting off List of Red Dirt Bands

message: I believe there is a difference too.  Not so much based on where people come from, but the kind of music they play.   I put Robert Earl Keen, Hayes Carll, Ray Wylie Hubbard, Lyle Lovett and the Texas Folk-Country, Americana stuff as Texas Country.   I think Red dirt country is like Bart Crow Band, CCR, Casey Donahew band, and that sound.
::Thank you for talking sense ... whoever you are. 75.92.62.160 (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas Country and Red Dirt country. 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Red dirt (music) →  – WP:NATURAL. the article uses the proposed title several times and it appears to be used in reliable sources. Parenthetical disambiguators should only be used when a natural one is unavailable. Jfhutson (talk) 17:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 November 2023