Talk:Komárno

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ow I see that "Révkomárom" is mentioned in the text, by the way. I would prefer, as a compromise that the explanation about it is moved up into the firs paragraph. I have removed the part on the two chieftains (that I have never heard of), one of which is supposed to have founded the castle (which according to the Academy of Sciences was constructed only in the 12th century). I will gladly readd it, if someone provides me with some sources, but I am afraid that this is just a fairy tale. Juro 06:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I tried to clarify a bit more the distinction between Komárno and Komárom. Since this article is about Komárno, I think the last edit by Kelenbp (basically, he replaced the word "Komárno" by "Komárom/Komárno") makes little sense. Perhaps, it may indeed confuse the reader. The town has never been called "Komárom/Komárno". In the article, we do not use the town's Latin or German name, so I do not see any reason why we should create a neologism "Komárom/Komárno". I reverted this change. I would rather recommend to expand the Komárom stub into a full article, includind a section about history. Tankred 14:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, for me is using the name Komárno in a historical context is more confusing, as the usage of Komárom, which was the official name of the Northern part of the city throughout the centuries. The renaming of this Hungarian city by the Czechs in 1918 is since then disputed by the locals. The today Komárom in Hungary is just a suburb of the former city. Maybe this whole story is a little confusing for a foreign reader, but just think about Berlin, there existed two cities with the same name for a long time. In Hungarian Komárno is also called Northern-Komárom, as actually it is the northern part of the same city.
kelenbp 16:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Komárno is the northern part of a former city, which was administratively divided in 1918. Since then, it is an independent municipality called Komárno. In an encyclopedia, we should respect the actual status and use official names. This practice is also less confusing to a reader with little or no previous knowledge of the subject. But all historical names, including Hungarian, Latin, and German variants are included in the article and the history of the division is discussed there too. If you feel it is not discussed enough, feel free to expand the article. Anyway, there is much information still missing (for example the town's present economic situation, local politics, description of landmarks, etc.). Tankred 15:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: It is important to say, you witdraw the right of town to have a historical name and you give the old town a new "modern" name.--Mt7 17:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: New facts have a place in the debate. Zello 18:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

text: This is the original text quoted in "Irodalmi Szemle" a scientific journal about Hungarian Literature as you see in the link. It is an absolutely reliable source. Zello 18:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, I'm Slovak and I know local circumstances, hungarian name of town was long forbidden, but since 10 years Komárom is the only from slovak authorities and municipal authority affirmed official hungarian name of city, if you not have expertise and competence, do not talk to matter, and you examples of town are not in the right ballpark, is it for you not possible to go to town and ask, is it not possible to ask you friends? I do not have the best english, but I know this issue very well. And please do not editwar without competence and arguments. --Mt7 06:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jókai

message: OK, is it possible to write simple: Komárno (Hungarian: Komárom, German: Komorn)? --Mt7 09:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poll 

message: A request for protection has been posted; however, I don't find that appropriate in this case. User:Mt7 and User:Zello, both of whom are already in violation of WP:3RR, seem to be the only two involved in edit-warring. There's no need to keep others from editing because of a dispute between two individuals. Note that I have this article watchlisted and if I see either of you revert once more, I will block. Please refrain from edit-warring. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks you for your help. --Mt7 08:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. Feel free to contact me if you need my assistance with this or anything else. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  please help me and zelo, that way or another and we have peace --Mt7 08:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

text: no problem jokai is ok, my problem is only use of revkomarom in head of article --Mt7 14:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Have you an example, where wrong and unofficial name is in the head of article? --Mt7 12:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Have you an example, where a so widely used and accepted name isn't in the head of article? :) 
Also, I have an alternate proposal: use the name "Öregkomárom" as an other distinctive but non-abusive name in the header, and Révkomárom mentioned just in an other paragraph. Otherwise, I don't think that this dispute is a very important, so I withdraw my vote. Have a nice day! - Peppe83 13:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit War 

message: You arguments are misplaced
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two similiar variants --Mt7 12:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  ha ezt mondanad nalunk, akkor mar regen lekerre kuldtek volna --Mt7 07:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

text: sorry you have respect votes, he wants to see the name in the head because it is "widely used". but he withdraw his wote, and  his link say - if you watchful read (see analogy to Szlovák-alföld) I hope you understand hungarian - author from mta/Hungarian Academy of Sciences  revkomarom is abusive, improper, misuse, and that is about 90 % truth, but you 5 important international cities as examples is complett falsehood, you compare apples and oranges, and I hope, today is that untrue repeat a lie often enough and it becomes truth, no matter how preposterous. and revkomarom is abusive - in hungarian wikipedia is it so since 5 month - and hungarian wikipedia is rather touchstone, than english in this matter  --Mt7 21:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  You got 5 important international cities as examples. 

message: * The above discussion is messy enough that I can't see where to put this comment.  I got here from RfC.  In this diff  User:Zello states that "Révkomárom" was used in an encyclopedia in the 1880s.  Since this is the case, there should be and is a redirect from that word to this article.  Best practice is to include all reasonable redirect subjects in the first sentence of the article, so that a reader will understand why they ended up here.  Accordingly, "Révkomárom" ought to be in the header sentence, though it might be noted as "formerly", "including the former Révkomárom", or whatever else makes sense based on the verifiable facts.  If there are  reliable sources stating that the term is now considered "violative and affrontive" then they should be used to add appropriate text to the article.  But the term should not be removed if it was used historically.  GRBerry 02:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC Commentary 

message: This edit by Nmate, in which he calls the decline of the Hungarian population of Komárno since 1941 "strong-Slovakization", was reverted by Tankred, and so were similar edits in the Levice and Nové Zámky articles. I started a thread about it on this talk page: User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment#Nové Zámky, Levice‎, Komárno‎. Markussep Talk 11:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographic development 

message: This article links to the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 but there's a more-specific link at the Battles of Komárom. Perhaps it would be better if it linked to that article particularly? But I am not sure how to fit this into the running text, so will ask here first.
My partner User:Monkap and I have been translating these articles about that Revolution from the Hungarian Wikipédia to the English one. We hope that we have kept NPOV but if there is anything not NPOV in them please do edit them to remove it. The names of places we have tried to be neutral about although I know some editors tend to insist that a place is called by its current instead of its historical name, even though the articles tend to give both at first use and link to the article at its current name and country. Si Trew (talk) 23:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungarian Revolution of 1848 

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