Talk:Euthenics

message: :Many things that are euthenic are also dysgenic.
That sounds awful, why? Also this article presents Euthenics as being in contrtast to eugenics. Why wouldn't they be done in harmony? Sam Spade 19:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm doing some research... Euthenics: The Science of Controllable Environment : A Plea for Better Conditions As a First Step Toward Higher Human Efficiency (Public health in America) by Ellen H. Richards,  seems to be backing up my assumptions, from what I skimmed. More to come... Sam Spade 20:02, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: dysgenics

message: The result of the euthenics approach would thus have long-term, genetic effects, but would achieve them very differently from eugenics.
Many who support eugenics believe that euthenics is ultimately pointless, or at least less effective than eugenics, because it deals with the consequences of a problem rather than the problem itself.  Those who support euthenics argue that eugenic approaches work by taking choices – and especially reproductive choices – away from people, while euthenics allows people to make better-informed decisions, as in the example of genetic diseases.
:I am fairly certaion this is incorrect. Is there a source for this? Is this the sort of reasoning presented in the Encyclopedia of Anthropology? Sam Spade 20:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Information I found here seems to corroberate the above, so I restored it. Cites of specific critics would still be cool, but I no longer request them so stringently. Sam Spade 21:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm very curious who criticised her theory, and why. Ellen Richards is awesome, personally coining the terms euthenics, ecology, home economics and Oekology, the first woman to graduate and teach at MIT, and etc... I only first heard of her today, and she's already my favorite feminist! ;) Sam Spade 23:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: I got that from the first page of Euthenics: The Science of Controllable Environment : A Plea for Better Conditions As a First Step Toward Higher Human Efficiency (Public health in America), so I think its relevant. He clearly had this sort of thing in mind, even if he didn't use this term. Sam Spade 23:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pasteur quote 

message: There are so many categories included here that it seems not useful to me. Please trim down to essential characteristics. See: WP:OVERCAT. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:05, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your input! I can certainly agree that the topics of study euthenics encompasses includes a wide, eclectic swath of categories, and not just housekeeping as most at the surface surmise (aside from those who think it is the same as eugenics, that is). It appears the vast interdisciplinary nature of the curriculum Ellen Richards envisioned was what I am led to believe ultimately undermined its longevity (along with sexist prejudices, wars, funding, etc.).  If a far from comprehensive list seems (and, frankly is) overwhelming, imagine what it would do to curriculum and faculty expenses.  Your observation certainly drives home the confusions such an undertaking presents, and those who later broke up the curriculum into separate areas of distinct study demonstrated how the curriculum requires all its plinths in place to support the whole structure.  76.180.38.195 (talk) 04:43, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

text: *, thanks. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually wasn't aware of 's comments here (and on the template's talk page) when I pared down the categories yesterday. I came across the article and the associated template while refining categories on articles in the extremely broad categories :Category:Health and :Category:Medicine.  I think I've chosen the most relevant categories; the others are surely all encompassed in the links provided in the euthenics template. Maralia (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Thanks for your contributions, Maralia! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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message: : Which part of this edit was unexplained and POV? You originally removed it without explanation in this edit. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's an awfully specific sentence. If anything eugenics is a now uncommon sort of public (health) policy. Calling this historical fragment a "pseudoscience" is a lot like calling Taylorism or home economics a pseudoscience. In many ways these most definitively are - especially if you are of a leftist persuasion -, and yet it really doesn't add much to the respective discussions...  Biohistorian15 (talk) 18:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eugenics