Talk:Richard Butler (diplomat)

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* States and territories of Australia#Governors_and_Administrators_of_States_and_Territories puts the letters "AC" after his name.  If this is correct, I figure we should use this in the "long style" (bold) in the article, and (if necessary) explain it
* am I correct in saying that Butler didn't swear allegiance to HMQE2, and if so, wouldn't this be an issue for his governership?
-- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 14:12, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The wording of this loyalty oath is normally that one "swears allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and her rightful heirs and successors", or similar.  It is quite possible to make this oath while having republican opinions, as any Presidency of Australia that came about through legimate amendments of the Constitution would be a legally-constituted successor to the current monarch.  2006-07-29.
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I just wanted to point out what a great job Adam Carr, JackofOz and Finlay McWalter have done in this article.  A huge amount of edits by all of them have turned this from a non-existant to fully fledged article in less than a day! -- Chuq 01:51, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: You're welcome. JackofOz 03:50, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: This is a characteristic antipattern of publically editable wikis.  As long as the affair is in the news, people will continue to arrive and drop in small "he said, she did, they rumoured, we denied..." nuggets.  The only solution is to return here every week or so (until things entirely settle) and summarise mercilessly. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 11:32, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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message: Currently, this article says:
:In 1998 Iraq accused Butler and other UNSCOM officials of acting as spies for the United States, and expelled the UNSCOM weapons inspectors from Iraq.
There appears to be some controversy regarding the characterization that the inspectors were "expelled". From the organization FAIR: There They Go Again: The Washington Post's Iraq Tall Tale. It in turn cites a Washington Post article, saying:
:The story centers on the Iraq crisis that broke out on December 16, 1998. Richard Butler, head of the United Nations weapons inspection team in Iraq, had just released a report accusing the Iraqi regime of obstructing U.N. weapons checks. On the basis of that report, President Clinton announced he would launch airstrikes against Iraqi targets. Out of concern for their safety, Butler withdrew his inspectors from Iraq, and the U.S.-British bombing proceeded.
:The Washington Post reported all these facts correctly at the time: A December 18 article by national security correspondent Barton Gellman reported that "Butler ordered his inspectors to evacuate Baghdad, in anticipation of a military attack, on Tuesday night."
I'm aware that many sources, including the Washington Post itself, have subsequently asserted that the weapons inspectors under Butler were "expelled" by Iraq. But the FAIR statement that that characterization is inaccurate bothers me. It's a relatively minor point, but I wonder if anyone has some better sourcing on the question that would help establish conclusively what happened. Or, if such conclusive evidence can't be found, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to mention the controversy in the Wikipedia article. John Callender 15:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1998 departure from Iraq 

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message: It reads: Dr Jennifer Grey (formerly married to Senator Susan Ryan).  These days, this could easily be read to mean that Dr Grey was formerly married (same-sex) to Senator Susan Ryan.  I was just going to remove it, but realised this is the only mention anywhere in the article of Butler's marriage to Ryan.  It needs to go somewhere appropriate, with dates.  --  JackofOz 15:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:35, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spouse (in infobox)

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