Wikipedia talk:Added or removed characters

message: I think this is a great idea!
Can it also be put in the article history? That would make it much easier to find the important edits because it seems like a lot of times people make a big edit and then go back and touch it up with little ones, but if there's a few main contributers you see the same names all the time and have to painstakingly go through to find the ones you're looking for. -LambaJan 14:37, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can definitely see the benefit of putting in an article history for that very reason.  Neil916 (Talk) 05:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed I would rather see these numbers in the page history rather then sitting there uselessly on my watchlist --T-rex 21:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History? 

message: What does it signify when the number is bolded? =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of characters were removed (if it's red) or a lot were added (if it's green). —Mets501 (talk) 16:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would, BTW, really help to make these thresholds depend on article total length. BTW, I don't see bold green somehow, even for +17,000. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 17:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, maybe it's only bold red. —Mets501 (talk) 18:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bold 

message: I have my preferences set to hide bot edits from my watchlist, but this does not prevent the bot edits from affecting the total character change count on pages where there are multiple edits. For example, one page on my watchlist had 23 edits yesterday, all showing additions to the page, but the overall count is negative because a bot archived the page and removed 24,000 characters. Is there any way to have bot edits not counted in the overall count? — Jonathan Kovaciny (talk|contribs) 23:32, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a bugzilla question. —Mets501 (talk) 18:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot edits 

message: "To remove these numbers completely from your watchlist and the recent changes page, add ... to your personal CSS."
: Um, no.  Whoever wrote this extension also needs to write a preference to turn it off.  Editing CSS is not a user interface. — Omegatron 07:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And how the hell do useless features like this go live in the software without community input?  This is like a crippled version of Wikipedia:Automatic edit summaries.  Let's make the edit as mysterious as possible by just telling patrollers how "big" the edit was, instead of just summarizing what the edit actually was. — Omegatron 07:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: * I agree 100% with Omegatron. -- Chabuk [ T • C ] 22:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

text: * Yes.  So do I.  -- Raeven0 06:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

text: * Ditto. There's no such thing as too many "I agree"'s until something gets changed. --YbborT 21:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: * I really fail to see the use of such a "feature"  For the vast majority of editors it's nothing more than distracting page clutter. Surely something like this should be disabled by default on all accounts? and then If some character counting geek feels the need for it then let them hack around with their css file! M100 22:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To remove these numbers completely 

message: I've transcluded this page at the relevant help pages for Recent Changes and Watchlist (Help:Watching pages and Help:Recent changes) because it pertains there; any changes on this page (while it is transcluded) will be reflected there. I've also removed the link to this page from both the recent changes header and the watchdetails, as it's been a few days and the information is now linked in the relevant locations. I've also added this information in on the master copies at Meta. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transclusion 

message: This is what I have done, it removes the message, un-bolds it and reduces the size(in monobook.css):
 #watchlist-notice { display:none; }
 .mw-plusminus-pos {font-weight:normal; font-size:75%;}
 .mw-plusminus-neg {font-weight:normal; font-size:75%;}
 .mw-plusminus-null {font-weight:normal; font-size:75%;}
HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 02:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To make it smaller aswell 

message: As discussion above, green for positive and red for negative may confuse some users. I proposal to change the default color schema to black for positive and red for negative, since we don't actually have to highlight those positive numbers right? And I think this could be accepted by people with different culture background. Yao Ziyuan 09:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Make positive numbers black rather than green. 

message: Current version:
 m   18:00 Domain kiting (diff; hist) . .  (-41) . . GreenJoe (Talk | contribs)
     17:57 Japanese New Year (diff; hist) . .  (+30) . . Benlumberkid (Talk | contribs) (2007 update)
Desired version:
 m   18:00 (-     41) Domain kiting (diff; hist) GreenJoe (Talk | contribs)
     17:57 (+     30) Japanese New Year (diff; hist) Benlumberkid (Talk | contribs) (2007 update)
     17:56 (+999,999) Example (diff; hist) Example (Talk | contribs)
I really like seeing the numbers, but I think that change shown above would make my Watchlist soooo much easier to read without all of those colors zig-zagging all over the page. BlankVerse 06:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can the numbers be moved to the near the beginning of the line? 

message: Per this thread at VPR: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Add character deltas to the history pages, can the byte-difference numbers be added to the article-history pages and user-edit-history pages?
The only problem I can think of is the server-hit, as we'd probably want/need them generated retroactively for all the 100million+ edits done so far... Would that be a big problem? If not, can someone help me file a bug request in the appropriate place? —Quiddity 21:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Add character deltas to the history pages

message: Should this page be tagged as a  or something else? Or maybe it should be moved to the Help namespace? -- œ™ 20:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: have added to :Category:Wikipedia page history help Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:02, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to categorize this page