Talk:Mehmet Oz

message: The line "It is often spelled without the diacritic over the Ö in English.", is wrong. Ö isn't O with diacritics. It's a completely separate letter, with a completely separate associated sound. Much as G isn't C with a hook, but a separate letter. (which was formed, by adding a hook to the letter C. Before this, both /k/ and /g/ where written as C. The name Gaius, e.g., would be written CAIUS, but pronounced /gaius/, rather than /kaius/)
This is true in many languages, such as Swedish, Icelandic, Hungarian, and many others. Unlike, e.g., Welsh, where ö is an o with diacritics, rather than being a separate letter. 155.4.221.27 (talk) 20:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not wrong. Indeed Ö is a separate letter in Turkish but the two dots are still a diacritic, and the line is actually " It is often spelled without the diacritic over the Ö in English." -- linking, appropriately I think, to Wikipedia articles which explain. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 15:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This phenomenon is not uncommon, it's called anglicization. There are some surnames that are substantially different, more than just a change of a diaeresis. Considering that virtually everything with Oz's name on it does not include the diaeresis, it doesn't make sense to do the same in the article. This is often similar with accent marks as well. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

text: "but the two dots are still a diacritic"? The same could be said, about the hook in G, Peter Culutzan. The two dots are not diacritics. They are a part of the letter Ö, which is not the letter O, any more than the letter T is an I, that merely has a bar on top. 155.4.221.27 (talk) 22:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Oh, and also: There is no diaeresis, in Öz. The 'ö' in 'zoölogy' (as you might see it written, in e.g. The New Yorker), is an 'o' with a diaeresis. The 'ö' in Öz, however, is not an 'o' with a diaeresis. It is not an 'o', nor does it involve a diaeresis. The 'ö' in 'zoölogy', is a completely different character, compared to the 'ö' in Öz, and has a completely different origin. They just happen to, purely coincidentally, look exactly the same. 155.4.221.27 (talk) 21:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ö 

message: I don't think that the word "ultimately" is needed in this clause: "Oz ultimately lost to Fetterman in the Senate election,..." 76.14.122.5 (talk) 02:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed and removed. —ADavidB 03:47, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit request 

message: The "Foreign policy" section begins with unspecific assertions of ties to the AKP "that include foreign agents and proxies," before repeating unspecific accusations that he is a foreign agent spying on Americans. This amounts to innuendo and should either be completely removed or else describe concrete allegations, in which case it should cite neutral journalistic sources rather than the website of a think tank known for Islamophobic conspiracy theories and a magazine op-ed by the think tank. Wikipedia should not be weaponized for character assassination. 137.83.123.228 (talk) 08:35, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same source cited twice as well Secretlondon (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of neutral sources on AKP ties