Talk:Games for Windows

message: This page began as a reference only to the "Games for Windows" magazine.  I took the liberty of adding a lot to it about the entire "Games for Windows" Microsoft campaign.  Feel free to edit this page as you wish!
Also, please format to Wikipedia standards as you see fit.  And anyone with more info about "Games for Windows" out there...please add whatever you can.  I tried to add a logo but got a "protected page" error.  I hope this page is now a bit more informative about the info I have gathered in the last few days.
-Scotty --Scottymoze 04:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed it up.  Please add your signature to the end of your comment. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A. Isn't the actual name of the magazine going to be Official Games for Windows Magazine? I know that the guys on the podcast spent some time making fun of themselves for the new name. B. The references requested for Jeff Green's comments can be found on the magazine's podcast available through cgwradio.1up.com, but how would one use that as a citation? 204.69.40.7 11:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Birth of this Page 

message: As Microsoft is hinting at a full-on-categorization for this campaign, would it be wise to add a Games for Windows status column to new PC games?
* I think that's a good idea but tons of peeps would complain "MS Supremacy is Biased" maybe.--Scottymoze 02:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Replacement for PC  

message: The requirements mentioned on this page, such as compatibility with xbox 360 controller and x64 compatibility, I think are simply rumors Paul Thurrott heard (anonymously) about the future of the Games for Windows logo requirements (under Vista, maybe?).  This page does not mention that these are speculation and fails to mention most of the current official requirements found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Games_for_Microsoft_Windows_Logo_for_Applications.asp
Perhaps this page should have two sections: current requirements and future requirements for Games for Windows labelling? Ombre42 10:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Games for Windows Requirements 

message: Here's a screenshot I took from my Vista thing:  However, Wikipedia's upload tool is being downright retarded and giving me a "." is not a supported filetype error. So, here it is. Upload it, whatever, it's all good. --Mgrinshpon 17:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Uploading being stupid 

message: I saw a dead link for the Windows Vista Games explorer on the requirements list. Rather than start a new article which would most likely end as a stub anyway, I have added a section with a picture on the Games explorer. I have also redirected Windows Vista Games Explorer to that section--Wiki Fanatic | Talk 04:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Games explorer 

message: The games listed in the article only be for released titles, leaving the unreleased/speculative games for the gfw category. Also, Dungeon Siege II, Night Watch and Neverwinter Nights 2 does not bare the logo. Freelancer, Train simulator and Rallisport Challenge are older than the initiative itself (unless there is info). Any info regarding these, or any other games about the gfw status would be appreciated so the list can be cleaned up. -sciss0rz 00:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding games older than the initative. It can be retroactivly applied. This is usually done when the game is repackaged or rereleased (think Half Life vs. Half Life Game of the Year Edition). BTW, Games for Windows has been around for a long time. Only recently has there been the big stripe at the top annoncing Games for Windows.--Wiki Fanatic | Talk 01:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Regarding games older than the Games for Windows initiative.  It appears that the windows file legacy.dll contains the information about older titles that are not part of the GFW.  When a game is installed that is GFW false (no GDF file) and legacy.dll listed true (title is listed in lagacy.dll), the game information will be updated into Games Explorer.  If the title is GFW true, it will update Games Explorer using the data in the GDF file within the title.  If neither is true, Games Explorer does not update automatically making it necessary to drag in your own icon which will not contain rating info or box art.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.31.184.166 (talk) 00:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Games list 

message: There is a program available in Beta that adds games to the Explorer Window with the ability to add custom BoxArt, etc. It looks like it's nearly finished, the only thing it doesn't do is add the old game back to the explorer and it doesn't edit existing boxart at the moment. There is also a great guide that shows how to do it manually too. Try it out here.
Ryan R (M_3628905) 01:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Program Available to Add/Edit Games 

message: Should the title of the article be in italics. I'm not really too sure. Sdornan 14:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italics? 

message: Don't you think details about these two account types is required?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.191.150 (talk) 09:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver / Gold details? 

message: It's been a long time since I first tried to get this page going.  I can't thank everyone enough for the great work and the great page this has become, full of great info (which is the point of Wikipedia, for those of us that might have lost sight of that).  I haven't contributed nearly as much as I was when I tried to get this page going...mostly due to exclusionists on here really, really turning me off...but to see a page like this take shape is truly what Wikipedia is all about.  Thanks again, and please everyone have a great 2008 and beyond.  Happy editing!!  (And sorry to post a forum-ish edit here, but I had to say thanks.)--Scottymoze (talk) 03:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank You! 

message: This article needs to be merged here. It is not notable enough to have a separate article.--SkyWalker (talk) 16:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Support Merge it asap, there is no reason to have it there.--Crossmr (talk) 01:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tray and Play 

message: I just wrote up a bunch of material in the "Features removed in Windows 7" article discussion regarding this issue so I will be brief here.  Games Explorer operates very differently when comparing Vista and Windows 7.  Vista allowed a user to edit shortcuts in Games Explorer - Windows 7 for the most part does not depending on how the shortcut was made (Games for Windows installation - Legacy game detected by windows legacy.dll - user dragged in shortcut).  VGEE (ie: Vista Games Explorer Editor) is not fully operational in Windows 7(I can't speak as to how it works with Vista, but I assume from the product name that it may not have these issues in Vista). From my personal experience using it in Windows 7 64bit: 1. Error message every time I open it but I can continue dispite the message (something to do with Debugging log). 2. Cannot select any "Games for Windows" title or the standard microsoft titles included in Windows for changes (for example: cannot select "flight simulator x" or "Chess"). 3. You cannot enter command line switches after the program name (such as <path>\bf2.exe +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/xpack +ignoreAsserts 1) - however if you force the issue, type it anyway, and save, you WILL corrupt the games explorer registry.  If you copy a working shortcut into games explorer with command line switches like above, then use VGEE to add box art, etc. you will lose the command line settings on saving.  I am sure that the issues I have experienced relate to the removal of editing ability that was dropped in Windows 7 that the programmer probably used in Vista.  I am hoping that the programmer can get this working in Windows 7 since the only other solutions to editing in Games Explorer for Windows 7 are learning to use the GDF maker in the DirectX SDK or by major registry hacking.  Better still, I just wish Microsoft would just return Windows 7 Games Explorer back to Vista functionality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.31.184.166 (talk) 22:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vista vs Windows 7 Games Explorer and  "Program Available to Add/Edit Games" - BEWARE 

message: currently the article gives the impression no significant amount of gamers have any problems or grievances with GFW.
GFW is not loved by all gamers, can someone put in a small paragraph about criticism. the article on Steam has a section on criticism so this obviously needs one too. I'd better not do it because i hate GFW and would find it hard to stay neutral in my writing!  Olivier Doorenbos (talk) 16:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? GfW is merely a certification system. The only criticism I can think of at the moment is that they aren't doing a very good job *cough* Fallout 3 *cough*. Maybe you are thinking of Games for Windows – Live? --MushroomCloud (talk) 23:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  there needs to be a section on criticism 

message: I got several messages about the website's URL being changed, so I thought I should clarify. Gamesforwindows.com is being moved over to Xbox.com. As of yet, nothing is being renamed or rebranded. Look here for a source. As of right now, Gamesforwindows.com is still up and running, but it will likely be taken down within the week, just like the forums were after the new ones launched. VividNinjaScar (talk) 00:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website URL Change 

message: I, Wesley Mouse, formally offer my services as mediator in the reopening of your previous dispute, which still appears to be unresolved and may have had MedCab closed prematurely.  Would interested parties please indicate whether or not they accept this suggestion, by signing below this comment.  Wesley Mouse (talk) 17:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reopening of Mediation Cable 

message: There has been an announcement that Xbox Live is coming to windows under the name Xbox Live for Windows. No doubt this will replace Games for Windows and Games for Windows - Live. What should we do about the articles? Here is the link: http://majornelson.com/2011/09/13/xbox-live-and-windows-8/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VividNinjaScar (talk • contribs) 21:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: New information today makes it look like GFW is not being rebranded, but rather Xbox Live on Windows is just the hub to access all the game information. Games demoed were still labeled "Games for Windows - Live", but it is possible that is only because they haven't updated the boxarts as of yet, or do not plan to. VividNinjaScar (talk) 22:20, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox Live on Windows 

message: SimCity 4 and SimCity 4 Rush Hour occasionally; very often, crash on startup, requiring you to Task Manager shut them down, and then restart the game. However, if you shut down the game, then shut down GFW/GE, then go to restart the game, you get the SAME crash. I finally had to disable GE, and no problems since LReyome254 (talk) 19:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: We would need a reliable source that documents this problem and/or solution. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: How about adding games that tend to crash on startup

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