Talk:Odessa, Texas

message: I'm adding a {Story} style tag to the article. Has anyone actually read it? It sounds a lot like something you'd hear on a tour bus. Specifically, the History section is highly inappropriate, with lots of references to the contributor's own feelings and original research running rampant. There's a long list of landmarks, too, that makes it read like a travel guide- something Wikipedia is not. Wikipedia is also not a Soapbox. It can't be used as a promotion vehicle for the town. The History section, in particular, does not cite any sources or give any verifiable third-party references. At the moment, I'm a little busy, and in fact just stopped by briefly in connection to something else, but I hope somebody will PLEASE invest the time to fix the article. The tag will need to stay up until that's done.--Thecitrusking (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a stab at correcting the history section, looks like we still need some more work before dropping the Story tag, but its a start anyway.  I'll try to get some more done sometime soon.  --Bandit6789 (talk) 22:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Made some more modifications, what do you think about dropping the {story} tag?  --Bandit6789 (talk) 04:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Now I understand why it is so important to you to express that what you see in the movie isn't real. Unfortunately, much of it is real (as illustrated in the reference I added.) --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Hopefully my most current rewording of the section takes both our ideas into account. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 14:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious Style and Tone Problems

message: they did live their so quit removing it that is considered vandalism. (Googleyii 17:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:AGF content disputes are not vandalism.  I will reword the entry. Odessaukrain 18:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: REWORD your just a liberal who is just being stubborn (Googleyii 16:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

text: P.S. I forgive you for being a liberal but for the stubborness you need to grow up a little (Googleyii 16:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Bush family

message: ===Re-Categorization of the Education Section===
I moved the Colleges and University subsection to the first of its section due to matter of importance since having a university or college adds more value to the city.--sglooney316 23:19, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

message: I moved the Colleges and University subsection to the first of its section due to matter of importance since having a university or college adds more value to the city.--sglooney316 23:19, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-Categorization of the Education Section

message: As odd as it may seem, the Odessa High School mascot is spelled "Broncho", not "Bronco". Lone Odessan 11:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I didn't see any mention of the Permian Basin Oil Show. It's a pretty big part of Odessa. -Paulhat33 21:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oil Show

message: 67.78.75.5 (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Local Music Scene 

message: It seems to me as if the current article on Odessa was written by the Odessa Chamber of Commerce.  It's not that the content is questionable but it's sure lacking in strength if it can't include crime stats, art museums, newspaper circulations, controversial current events etc.  Who wants to read an article about a city with no human conflict, no history of struggle and virtually no pulse?  If anything it's simply dishonest and more of a tourist's brochure than a strong article about a vibrant city. Scarman2 (talk) 18:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as you provide sources for verification, those topics would be welcome additions if you feel like writing about them. « D. Trebbien (talk) 23:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Um, have you seen most of the articles here about other cities in the United States?  They all seem to be written like that.  Jerodian (talk) 22:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime in Odessa, Texas

message: See WP:IPC. The template does not need to be there as the listing is not inappropriate. --Arperry (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, I like that listing!  As a proud Odessan, I'm rather happy to know my city is known to other people besides its residents alone!  Jerodian (talk) 22:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: In Popular Culture

message: A recent entry stated "Of these 18% were alternative lifestyle households, including a small transgender community. Odessa had the highest per capita rate of non-traditional households in Texas for all municipalities with more than 50,000 residents." Since this seems to be a significant fact, it really needs a good citation. If none apperas in a few weeks, I will edit it.Wkharrisjr (talk) 01:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternative lifestyle households

message: I was just perusing the article, and noticed that the county/city graph is several years out of date.
Odessa, TX has had several expansions since then. This should help.http://gis.odessa-tx.gov/ogis_internet/
--67.60.158.214 (talk) 14:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  city limits 

message: go here its bigger than i can describe. http://www.parkslegado.com/
--67.60.158.214 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  parks legado town center 

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message: An editor has added Roy Orbison to Odessa's notable people list.  WP:USCITIES suggests that a person is notable to a city when they "were born, or lived for a significant amount of time, in the city".  Orbison grew up in nearby Wink, Texas (p. 39), and is listed on Wink's notable people list.  Orbison moved to Odessa to attend college in 1955 (p. 7).  Orbison then moved to Nashville in 1956 .  I would appreciate the input of others about whether this counts as a "significant amount of time". Magnolia677 (talk) 00:01, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't often list people who move to a city just for their school, especially if it's just for a year of it. Plus Odessa was only notable for Orbison's biography for small things in his early life, not things that add to his notability. In general as well, I would never list someone who lived somewhere for only a year as a notable resident. ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 03:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The things that you mention are things that are significant to the subject of Roy Orbison that have to do with Odessa. That in and of itself does not make them significant to Odessa. If you have some secondary sources (not Mr. Orbison's fansite) that discuss his importance to the music scene in Odessa, then perhaps you could include him, along with others important to the music scene there, in a section on culture. However, under no circumstances would it be appropriate only with the source you mention, nor would it be appropriate without a more or less complete write up on the community's music culture. John from Idegon (talk) 08:16, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Roy Orbison]] on notable people list 

message: Regarding the Bush family listed as notable people, WP:USCITIES#Notable people suggests that notable people were "born, or lived for a significant amount of time, in the city".  The Bush family lived in Odessa less than a year, see . Magnolia677 (talk) 10:41, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bush family 

message: Hi all! I am new to Wikipedia editing. I decided to start off by editing my hometown page. Here's my suggestion: 
The jackrabbits placed all over town are a big part of Odessa, TX. Discover Odessa added a page called “Jackrabbit Jamboree” that shows a map where all the jackrabbit statues are located. I think this is essential to add to the Odessa, TX Wiki page. What do you all think?  Brivalles244 (talk) 04:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourism 

message: I had added context to the area regarding the name of the city. As the namesake city in Ukraine is now romanized with a different spelling, I thought it a good idea to contextualize the reason that the current spelling of the Ukrainian city in English is different from the American city's spelling by linking the the CorrectUA/KyivNotKiev page. Another user undid this as being "tendentious." Why? Personally, while I find the policy partisan and a bit insecurely nationalistic, it *is* still a governmental policy and explains the difference in spelling to someone who might be unaware. So what's the issue? George Mucus (talk) 00:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that the city's name was historically romanized as "Odessa" is relevant to this page; the misleading WP:EASTEREGG wikilink to a political campaign is not. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 15:20, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotcha. Is there a page describing the wider effort to change English language romanization of Ukrainian toponyms? The KyivNotKiev page was the closest thing I could find. George Mucus (talk) 15:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quickly finding a more neutral article on WP about the Ukrainian government's push to have romanizations reflect Ukrainian spellings/pronunciations rather than Russian ones, but making "Odessa" link to KyivNotKiev for context seems a bit like, say, having the word "capitalism" conceal a wikilink to Das Kapital: it points, as though authoritatively, to one partisan view of a disputed matter contested by multiple parties. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:10, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Understandable, I suppose. It's definitely a biased campaign. Perhaps an external citation would be warranted in this case. I'll see if I can't find something on a credible news source about English language sources switching the the Ukrainian spelling for the namesake city. George Mucus (talk) 21:49, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context re: "Odesa"