Talk:List of Latin words with English derivatives

message: I've moved this from "Latin lexicon" to a new page "List of Latin words with English derivatives". The aim is not to provide a complete Latin dictionary, but to highlight in particular those words that have given rise to English words, and to indicate which forms of the words have been productive in forming compounds. its similar but not identical in layout to List of Greek words with English derivatives. rossb 21:16, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved this page 

message: Ok, I have removed words that are Germanic in origin. This is what I got off of Wiktionary:
Is From Germanic *isti, cognate with German ist < Proto-Indo-European *h1es- "to be". The paradigm of "to be" has been since the time of Proto-Germanic a synthesis of three originally distinct verb stems. The infinitive form "to be" is from Proto-Indo-European *bHeu- "to become". The words "is" and "are" are both derived from Proto-Indo-European *h1es- "to be". Lastly, the past forms starting with "w-" such as "was" and "were" are from Proto-Indo-European *wes- "to reside".
It Old English hit.
And From Middle English < Old English and, ond (thereupon, next) < Proto-Germanic *unda < Proto-Indo-European *anti (facing opposite, near, in front of, before).
Who Middle English < Old English hwȳ.
In Old English in  Cman 12:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  My edits 

message: --CopyToWiktionaryBot 09:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007-02-7 Automated pywikipediabot message 

message: I think 'ad' going to 'advertisement' is a bit of a stretch. 'Advertisement' is a product of much more compounding and affixation than simply deriving from 'ad', you could certainly not say it is cognate.
:You're correct (and "ad" was already listed further below with the other prepositions). Mild Bill Hiccup (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: AD

message: splenda splenda statueta  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.15.132.170 (talk) 23:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  latin 

message: This is not bad as far as it goes. Let's see how it goes. The words given here of course are only a small fraction of the total number. You would need a dictionary for total comprehensiveness, but WP is not a dictionary. Let's not make this decision yet. Think about it, though. Meanwhile in the Latin article we have been having quite a furor over the see also. The list got so large that something had to be done, so we did it. I opposed taking out see also altogether. But, I agreed with taking most of it out for various reasons you can read there on the discussion page. Now I see a lot of those same entries are over here. I'm going to start taking them out from here also. For example, "Dog Latin" is not Latin. I put it under the Latin disambig. If you got any objections first go there and read that then come back here with your objection. The number of titles with "Latin" in them runs into the hundreds; we can't put them all in. Sorry. Let's cut it down to a minimum of supplementary information relevant to the topic and not obviously linked in the article. Thanks.Dave (talk) 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: see also

message: I find the name for this article to be misleading; it makes this article sound like it should be about Latin words which come from English. In fact, this name misled ME... Post any new names for this article here and I'll move the page if I like the name. I can't think of any names for this article myself. ~WikiRigby talk sign! 21:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Name?

message: Would someone kindly make this addition as I am editing from a cell phone and also  am not
 Good at doing edits to tables, thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B12C:C2A2:2F80:9A71:D38F:91A3 (talk) 06:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  spalla (shoulder) --> espalier 

message: See https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Ancient_Greek_words_with_English_derivatives
--80.187.104.73 (talk) 21:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please ad link to sister site on Wiktionary (for Greek) 

message: An old CfD called for listifying the contents of :Category:Latin loanwords.  What follows is the list of the items that are there.  These need to be merged into the content in the appropriate section. 
A
    Adoration
C
    Christus Victor
    Circumcision
    Codex
    Communion (Christian)
    Computus
    Confession (religion)
    Covenant (religion)
    Credo
    Crucifixion
D
    Deicide
    Discalced
    Disputation
    Divine providence
    Divinity
F
    Fornication
I
    Incarnation (Christianity)
    Intercession
    Invocation
L
    Limbo
M
    Mattock
P
    Partisan (military)
    Prayer
    Primum Mobile
    Propitiation
    Publican
Q
    Quint
R
    Rapture
    Religious conversion
    Reprobation
    Resurrection
    Revelation
S
    Septuagint
    Summum bonum
T
    Thrones
    Transfiguration (religion)
    Tunic
U
    Universe
V
    Vagina
    Virtue
Vegaswikian (talk) 23:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge in content from and old CfD 

message: Since this article is now 577,000+ bytes long, it is in desperate need of a split. Therefore, I propose that we split this page into multiple different pages:
*List of Latin nouns with English derivatives
*List of Latin adjectives with English derivatives
*List of Latin verbs with English derivatives
The last section can stay on here. I propose this split not only due to length, but also because it is practical to split this page based on each part of speech. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems obvious. This can be done boldly. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:14, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

text: I support this. Zai (💬 • 📝 • ⚡️) 12:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

text: Looking at other articles listed at Template:English words of foreign origin, it seems more common to split alphabetically. e.g. List of English words of French origin (S–Z), List of English words of Arabic origin (A-B), List of Greek and Latin roots in English/H. But seeing as this article already does the split by PoS, I suppose it's fine to follow the path of least resistance. It does seem like it will take a lot of manual effort to separate the current nouns+adjectives table. Colin M (talk) 16:27, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but it would also take a lot of effort to sort every word by the letter. And it also depends on how many words of each letter there are. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be done easily with a script. Colin M (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

text: This seems to have gained consensus; I am splitting out verbs now. Nouns & adjectives are all in one list, so those may have to be sorted first. Tol | talk | contribs 00:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You could probably also just keep the nouns and adjectives combined. 98.186.210.106 (talk) 14:07, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That was me, I forgot to log in. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 14:10, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That section is well over 300k bytes though, meaning per the WP:Article size guideline, we should probably split and sort it (above 100k total article size "almost certainly" requires splitting). I would do it, but they are admittedly my weak spot in the English language haha. --TheSandDoctor Talk 00:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have considered splitting that section out and sorting it. However, 300K bytes doesn't really affect WP:LENGTH, since the de facto consensus on length seems to be keeping articles under 410K bytes. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 14:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: However, since the section is very disproportionate to the rest of the article, the nouns and adjectives section should be split into a separate article, and then it would make the most sense to sort them into nouns and adjectives. I am using a phone and I don't really have the time or dedication to sort all of the words into nouns and adjectives, so Onetwothreeip could do that, since he is usually the one who handles splits. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 14:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Would you be up for separating the nouns and adjectives table into nouns and adjectives? Felix QW (talk) 11:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for notifying. I can easily split sections into new articles, but the nouns and adjectives are mixed together into the same table. Separating nouns and adjectives would have to be done manually, as in each noun/adjective moved from one table to a new one. I don't think this is practical, or even advisable, so I withdraw my apparent support of this from two years ago. A split based on alphabetical order, such as A to L and M to Z, would be much more supportable. I or another editor can conduct such a split. Onetwothreeip (talk) 22:36, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

text:  Any opinions on the alternative proposal to split the nominals alphabetically instead? Felix QW (talk) 10:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds good to me. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 18:31, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting this article