Talk:John Barry (composer)

message: I added this information to the bio:
Barry and a-ha had several dissagrements during the making of the title song " The Living Daylights " and Barry went so far as to refer a-ha to being the Hitler Jugend. Barry has never soften up towards a-ha, but in 2006 .....etc..........( The bio continues as it were here )Mortyman 18:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A-ha

message: "He does not associate himself with the modern James Bond movies." Which are modern? What does this mean "does not associate himself"?
: I'm not the one who wrote it. It means he doesn't write the music for it. If you don't like the word 'modern' or 'associate' then you can propose a fix here. Thank you --Nkour 22:04, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bond 

message: I strongly object to this statement, and suggest that it either be remove, or amended. Having spent 32-years as a record company executive, and producing the soundtracks of scores by Barry ('Frances', 'High Road to China') and Bernard Herrmann ('Citizen Kane', etc.), I would most certainly include Bernard Herrmann in lieu of Henry Mancini.--Jslasher 07:58, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Not to disrespect John Barry, but who decided these 4 names were "the Big Four".  What about James Horner?  This is utterly POV, and I'm removing it.  JackofOz 02:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I do not mind either. Properly referenced quotes giving Barry credit for what is widely considered to be some outstanding work are fine. Placing him in an arbritary "big four" is POV and insulting to many other great composers. Mark83 21:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Big 4' of modern film composers

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message: May I, once and for all, explain the real story behind the confusing credits for the James Bond theme and put paid to ill-informed comment. Monty Norman composed the theme for the film, Dr. No. His original arrangement had the famous theme played in octaves on piano with a string-led accompaniment (I have seen the original score). This was not considered to have the required impact and John Barry, having been engaged on the film as musical director, re-scored it, putting the theme on an electric guitar (played on the original session by Vic Flick, a member of the John Barry Seven) with hard-hitting, jazzy brass. The writer of the Wikipedia biography seems to confuse composition of the theme (which was what Monty Norman did) with the arrangement(which was what John Barry did). Thus Monty Norman is correctly credited as having composed the James Bond theme (i.e. 'thought it up' in the first place)while John Barry took the original theme and transformed it into that known throughout the world today. This underlines the importance of the arranger and orchestrator, a person severely undervalued where screen music is concerned, who often contributes far more than just 'dressing up' a piece of music. 
Rodney Newton, Music Consultant, London Film School
1 July 2008
Rodneysnewton@aol.com
:Furthermore, the article credits John Barry with writing "From Russia with Love" whereas BMI gives Lionel Bart as sole composer. Here's the BMI link for John Barry. --Richhoncho (talk) 06:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: John Barry was not the "musical director" on Dr. No. The music was orchestrated by Burt Rhodes and conducted by Eric Rogers - Barry came only in for arranging "The James Bond Theme". -- 188.194.49.76 (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? And given you've just attempted to add a deliberate factual error it better be a good one. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:26, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Did you ever see the Main Title of Dr. No? There you can check all the things I have cited. And: The couple of John and Laurie Barry had only a son, Jonpatrick! Barry’s daughter Susan (Susie) is from his marriage with Barbara Pickard, his daughter Sian is from his liaison with Ulla Larsson, and his daughter Kate is from his marriage with Jane Birkin. Kate was born in 1967, is a prominent photographer, and you can get information about her family background on this website: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com/2008/12/kate-barry.html
Furthermore, you should read the various books about John Barry, his life and his music and inform yourself before accusing other people of vandalism! -- 188.194.49.76 (talk) 21:58, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But the Guardian backs up the claim that is currently in the article, and all you've presented is a few blogs. Take a look at WP:V and WP:RS. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: What does the Guardian write? "Barry ... is survived by his fourth wife Laurie, their son Jonpatrick, and three daughters, Susie, Sian and Kate." The Guardian simply claims that Barry had three daughters. He does not claim that they come from his marriage with Laurie! The names and the mothers of Barrys daughters can be found in the biography by Eddi Fiegel. And: I didn't cite any blogs! -- 188.194.49.76 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 22:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point, the Guardians statement is misleading, but your reading seems correct - I've reverted my change. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Bond theme 

message: Is there any useful source that can be cited regarding Barry's death at Glen Cove Hospital? Burlingame says he passed away at home in Oyster Bay. EON Productions (= the Barry family) states it was in New York. So far it is mainly the English Wiki spreading the information that Barry died at Glen Cove. Please sort this out.--193.5.216.100 (talk) 11:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the infobox to match that which is stated in the text & in the reference used there. Keith D (talk) 13:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: The 2012/6/23 edit by Timmyo101 cropped the image - a great improvement on the previous version - but unfortunately left the caption unchanged and including the name Paul Bateman, who is not in the new version.  That's now resolved. Twistlethrop (talk) 05:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image caption 

message: "Barry composed the theme for the 1971 TV series The Persuaders!, also known as The Unlucky Heroes, in which Tony Curtis and Roger Moore were paired as rich playboys solving crimes. The score for the series was composed by Ken Thorne."
So who composed what?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.152.17 (talk) 11:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have taken the liberty of modifying the formatting for the above comments to avoid an over long heading. Have cleaned up the confused wording. Philip Cross (talk) 13:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music for ''The Persuaders'' series

message: There are different claims to the number of Bond films that Barry scored on this page and James_Bond_in_film. This page says 11, the linked page says 12. Tim Warner (talk) 17:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Bond soundtracks is ambiguous

message: Evidently, John Barry was married a fourth time to a person by the name of Laurie.  Where is the last name? - KitchM (talk) 20:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laurie Who 

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message: The intro gives one of his soundtrack credits as Mary Queen of Scots. However, the link is incorrect. It should direct to the film, not the person. The link to the film is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Queen_of_Scots_(2018_film)
However, the page for Mary Queen of Scots says that the music was by Max Richter. So this attribution seems incorrect entirely.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alliwalk (talk • contribs) 17:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary, Queen of Scots