Talk:Great Moravia

message: Püspöki-Nagy's concept? Should we put here all strange theories? (from Czech or Slovak r. - I think hungarians will not like it). 
Pls hold wiki in real (main) science's stream.
Tomas
::Please read WP:civility before distinguishing editors according to their nationality, and WP:NPOV. Püspöki-Nagy's concept of two Moravias is shared by other scholars as well (they are cited in the article - interestingly, only one of them is Hungarian).  Borsoka (talk) 17:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could we at least rename “Further theories” to “Minority theories” or “Alternative theories”? With all due politeness, I would say there are many very weird theories (even official ones, the statue of “Svatopluk, king of Slovaks” in front of the Bratislava castle) with very unscientific foundations. Ceplm (talk) 09:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Püspöki-Nagy's concept? 

message: Since there are several views on Merehani, I have copied text from the article into Merehani.--Zoupan 05:28, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merehani 

message: What does "Transtheissia" (see :File:Great Moravia Svatopluk.jpg) mean? Is it a territory across Tisza? --Djadjko (talk) 02:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Ditinili (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transtheissia 

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message: Unless someone object, I will be deleting the details about Cyril and Methodius from the lead. The article is about Great Moravia, not Glagolitic or Slavonic rites. The core of the article is where these details should appear. Drmab (talk) 23:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leed 

message: please read WP:NOR and WP:NPOV before editing. We are not here to present our own point of view, or push one of the relevant scholarly point of views, but to present a fair picture of a subject. Please also read WP:3RR carefully, because you will be blocked if you continue edit warring. Borsoka (talk) 17:08, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  PoVs, etc. 

message: "although the identification of Bratislava, Tekov and Zemplín as Great Moravian castles is not generally accepted"
This quote is simply false. SOME Bulgarian and Hungarian historians don't accept it, motivated by nationalism, but the prevalent opinion among all western and Czech historians is that they indeed were Moravian fortresses. 
Brezalauspurc, located somewhere in the vicinity of Bavaria and Hungary, is composed of Brezala, probably Slavic Breslava, and purc, meaning city. Coins have been found in Bratislava that, up until the 12th century, referred to it as "Preslava" or "Braslava" civitas.
The fortresses at Bratislava, Starý Tekov and Zemplín were all built in the mid-9th century, akin to numerous other fortresses in modern Moravia and Slovakia, and the fact fortresses right next to them, in many cases southeast of them, closer to Bulgaria, like Devín or Nitra are explicitly mentioned in all Frankish sources as Rastislav's and Svatopluk's. Now, Nitra, right next to Tekov was the capital of the entire appendage of Nitra, and capitals were usually pretty central to countries in the Middle Ages, and was much farther to the east than Bratislava was, so why would the Bulgarians who barely expanded into eastern Pannonia in the late 9th century, have gone directly into Moravian territories and built castles that formed enclaves? Zemplín is the only one that could've realistically belonged to the Bulgarians.
But let's leave the fact these hypotheses are absolutely laughable, and focus on the fact they're only supported by a fringe group of historians in Hungary and Bulgaria. I don't see how that is in any way the "general opinion".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MotloAstro (talk • contribs) 18:43, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody says that historians who question the identification of the above fortresses represent a "general opinion". Borsoka (talk) 18:48, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

text: I do not like your arrogance how you are talking about other people and their opinion. After all, your presented concept is also largely based on manipulation and a large amount of guessing, occasionally some contemporary and non-contemporary sources that mostly do not provide clear geographical information (i.e. subject to interpretation). In fact, the entire wikipedia entry is largely presenting theories or guesses about the 'empire' (no contemporary source actually ever called precisely as 'empire' - or if you know it differently, please, quote it: I would be happy to learn) as facts, so it is impossible to distinguish/figure out what is just a large amount of guessing (in fact, the majority, I think), and what is based really, directly on contemporary sources (and which ones).Anyway, I do think that this kind of communication style helps - especially, when your own statements stand also on rather uncertain 'legs'. 94.44.247.129 (talk) 19:10, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tekov, Bratislava, Zemplín, Moravian fortresses 

message: "Lesser Poland, Pannonia and other regions were forced to accept, at least formally and often only for a short period, his suzerainty"
The terminology is achronological. 
Lesser Poland as a term didn't exist until the Polanian/Polan Piast rulers solidified their grip on the land of former Vistulans' statelet - the earliest possible date being 1038, when Casimir the Restorer quelled the heathen rebellions in southern and eastern Lechitic provinces (Vistulans, Masovia) and started moving the state centre southwards to Kraków. Most likely the term Poland referred only to Greater Poland much longer.
Does anyone know when the term Lesser Poland and Greater Poland was in common use in terms of mentions in contemporary sources? Ralphhalgas (talk) 12:29, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lesser Poland is a late mediaeval term 

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message: See the Moravia article Encyclopedia Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/place/Moravia
--Kivasalo (talk) 15:08, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture published at https://www.britannica.com/place/Moravia refers to current Moravia as a part/region of Czech Republic. This has nothing to do with the Great Moravia Empire. 195.168.78.3 (talk) 07:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Only western borderlands of modern Slovakia was part of Moravian Empire