Talk:Jap

message: English musicologist and archeologist, Julian Cope has just prodeced an authoritve book called Japrocksampler. There is no negative connotation, just a cool sounding contraction!  [mangonorth]]]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.228.152.208 (talk) 11:47, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: japrocksampler

message: Removed the part about use of Jap in english classrooms. I live in England and it's a definate taboo. It's on par with saying something like "paki" - --Wavetwista 22:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the chain of Canadian based Japanese hot dog stands known as Japadog see japadog.com. The business is owned by Noriki Tamura who was formally from Tochigi, Japan. 58.6.200.172 (talk) 06:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of Jap by British teachers

message: Thanks Tokek! Good extra link that is informative. JungleCat 13:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional subject

message: Out of interest, is "Jap" considered a racial slur in Japan? Thanks. PizzaMargherita 05:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jap in Japan

message: To equate the term "Jap" with "nigger" is off the mark, they are not on the same level at all - african americans do refer to themselves as "niggers" both ironically and explicitly.
A far better example (and fitting) is to draw a parallel with the term "gaijin", which has a similar derogatory history, and confused acceptance at present. 
If anyone cany refute this change, lets talk!
 mangonorth --—The preceding comment was added by 210.189.164.104 (talk • contribs).
:I said it above.  I consider it to be the same as "nigger".  I've been called a jap, and it's almost always been derogatory or some attempt to attack me or someone else.  I know there are people who think "jap" is okay, but there are still some people who think "nigger" is okay.  My father grew up in the segregated South, and he explained about how a lot of things were called "nigger" this and "nigger" that in the past.  But, you figure these were names given out by a society that made sure that African Americans "knew their place".  Well, it seems to me like "jap" this and "jap" that is similar.  I mean, you could say, "that's a great piece of nigger built furniture", and it doesn't matter that you've complimented them - you're really explaining that it was built by a second-class person.  99.146.26.34 (talk) 08:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant to say it's the same as "nigger" in the derogatory sense.  Some African Americans use the term "nigger" but pronounce it "niggah" and mean it as a macho way of addressing each other - but that is just some people.  Generally, it's the most downtrodden of the community - the gangsters and men and boys in the poor communities - who use it that way.  There are millions of wannabes who now use it that way, too... but I think they're really confused.  There are some Japanese Americans who have used "jap" that way, but they are from an older generation, back when JAs were more oppressed.  Younger people do not use it that way.  99.146.26.34 (talk) 08:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Parallel Slurs?

message: I know for a fact that jap is used totally without any discriminatory meaning in Australia, it's even used by High School teachers to refer to the language and the people. No connotations implied. Not sure how to source this though. Any ideas? +Hexagon1 (t) 08:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't say "nigger" is a friendly greeting, not by a long shot, it's regarded as offensive and if a teacher tried to refer to an African language as a "nigger tongue" they would be fired and possibly prosecuted almost instantly. This is not the case with jap, the first time I heard overseas it's a racial slur I was very surprised. +Hexagon1 (t) 00:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: "Nigger" is not used as a friendly greeting at all, that is just plain incorrect. In Australia, "Jap" is quite often used as a simple abbreviation of Japanese, in the same way that people would say "Aussie" or "Yank" when refering to something Australian or North American. There is no negative connontation in any of these references whatsoever, and any offense is purely in the mind of the speaker/listener. Machalel (talk) 03:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, sometimes what's in the mind of the speaker matters.  If there's a community of Japanese Australians who find it offensive, then it behooves you to avoid the term.  In the USA, there is a community of Japanese Americans who suffered discrimination and concentration camps (among other BS by government and the public at large) who experienced the use of "jap" as a racist slur. 99.146.26.34 (talk) 08:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jap in Australia 

message: The article injects POV that the Japanese are "apathetic," followed by mentioning that Jap.com is registered to a Japanese. The fact that Jap.com's domain name is registered by a Japanese does not indicate apathy on the registrar's part nor apathy on the Japanese population in general. —Tokek (talk) 13:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And the sentence doesn't indicate that it does. I doubt it's important enough for an encyclopedia article anyway.--Cúchullain t/c 22:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Re: "I doubt it's important enough..." which is why I removed it before, but someone reinserted it. Such is life on Wikipedia. —Tokek (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it again, so your concerns should be taken care of. The bit about the 2004 study is still in there, as it appears to be a real study.--Cúchullain t/c 16:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  On neutrality 

message: Since there is constantly vandalism from IP-address-only users, couldn't the article be locked or editing restricted to logged in users?
--Hydenobuyuki (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a sustained pattern of disruptive vandalism here sufficient to warrant a protection request. Have a look at Wikipedia:Protection policy for details of when protection is acceptable or necessary. --DAJF (talk) 00:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: What about Nip? Only one small, minor mention of it in the article when this should be more derogatory. Helpspoke (talk) 20:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Compared to "jap", "nip" has been more reappropriated by the Japanese American and Japanese Canadian Nikkei communities.  I'm not saying that it is accepted but slightly reappropriated whereas "jap" has nearly no reappropriate nor intentions to do so. --Hydenobuyuki (talk) 15:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nip 

message: :File:Halftrack-fort-knox-4.jpg is a picture of a halftrack named "Jap-Jabber." I took a look at this article so to see if the image could be used as an example of how "Jap" was used in 1942 but see that it already has a fair number of pictures. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WW II image 

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message: Contrary to popular belief, Jap is NOT an ethnic or racial slur. It can be used in a derogatory way like redneck or even monkey is, but it's not the same as Paki or the N-word. In fact, Jap doesn't compare with any slurs in terms of vulgarity or other forms of offensiveness or rudeness. I have just discovered that there is an automotive event called the Japfest. Much like Euro/Brit or Aussie/Murican, you can use Jap as a way of abbreviating things (particularly cars but also to some certain extent food and media), but I would advise to only use it around close friends because not everyone can distinguish context between a word. Political correctness has made white-oriented words of disparage not "official" slurs. 2601:204:C603:EA80:5DF2:640:B8CF:82B (talk) 21:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has examples of people objecting to the term, but I don't see any example of it being used as an ethnic slur. If there is a good example, can someone please add it? There are examples of war-time enemies disparaging the Japanese, but that is not a good example of a slur. Roger (talk) 04:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a slur