Talk:French Fourth Republic

message: The role of the Fourth Republic in the creation of what is now the European Union is essential. I have added basic information but it is essential that this be explored because it changes the historical perception of this government - despite its apparent dysfunction it had the power to alter the entire course of European history in ways the "more stable" UK could not. Vital for historic balance. Irasocol (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Role in European Unity

message: There is almost nothing here yet about how France and its institutions were rebuilt by the Fourth Republic. It is important to include how this government created/recreated universal health care and a free higher education system. Again, important to remove the Gaullist (and Anglo-American) bias that this was a dysfunctional government. Irasocol (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reconstruction

message: 80px|thumb|right|map of the third republic
current map is not correct since it lacks the Algerian departements that ceased to exist with the following republic in 1962.
the map of the fourth republic should include tbe Alsace and Lorraine départements (annexed by germany   during the third republic) and the algeria departments. by the way all france maps lack the overseas colonies which were part of the republican territory as well. Paris By Night 09:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: corrected it. Paris By Night 09:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Someone has uncorrected it; needs recorrecting. Teemu Leisti (talk) 21:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: incorrect map

message: I noticed that  changed the successor state of the Fourth Republic to the Fifth Republic, and that  reverted this change.  I did the same change some time ago and was likewise reverted by Barryob.  There was an inconclusive discussion on Barryob's talk page and I let it rest for a while.
I hereby propose to use the French Fifth Republic as the successor state of the Fourth.  To me, this seems logical; the articles are of the same type, describing the constitutions and governments.  Someone navigating through these articles is likely more interested in the article on the Fifth Republic (which succeeded the Fourth) than in the general article on France (which didn't).  Both constitiutions are within the context of France; listing France as the successor of the Fourth Republic seems to contradict this.  Opinions? Phaunt 10:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just made the change to the 5th too, after clicking next and going to the Obviously Wrong Place. Afterwards, I decided I ought to check up on the history. Barryob, didn't seem to give any explanation for his change, and I agree that his explanation in the talk page discussion isn't very convincing. Is he somehow contending that the 4th republic was not (a) France? In the context of a series of governments, the reader wants to read   about   the   succession   of   governments, not the geography or culture of the country. --Belg4mit 01:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Successor state 

message: Despite the bot date, a request for expert has been on this article since early 2007.  I have two advanced degrees in French political history (mostly Third Republic, but I do know a bit), so while I don't want to blow my own horn, I may qualify as an expert.  
Is there some concern I can work on?  If so please let me know.  The article is not wonderful, but seems alright.  Unless someone has a specific concern, I will remove that tag.  Thanks.  T L Miles (talk) 20:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert tag 

message: Shouldn't the French possessions in Indochina be highlighted on the map as well?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.4.168 (talk) 06:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Indochina 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:French First Republic which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 03:45, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Under the 1946 Constitution, French Algeria, Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, and Réunion were defined as overseas departments, and French India, New Caledonia, French Polynesia and Saint Pierre and Miquelon were defined as overseas territories. Both overseas departments and overseas territories were part of the French Republic.
As far as I know Wallis and Futuna, Mayotte, Côte d'Ivoire, French Dahomey, French Sudan, French Guinea, French Mauritania, French Niger, French Senegal, French Upper Volta and French Togoland, French Cambodia (until 1955), South Vietnam (until 1955), French Morocco (until 1956), French Tunisia (until 1956), Kingdom of Laos (until 1957) were all territories under French rule within the French Union, ie not part of the French Republic.
The map currently only shows Algeria as part of the republic, not French Guiana or Réunion. Should this be corrected? I can correct it if I'm not mistaken.
Rob984 (talk) 20:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

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thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: It was not merely a possession but an integral part of France at this time.2602:306:CFEA:170:9C53:8A2C:4C9E:F095 (talk) 00:51, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Algeria should be in dark green 

message: There were a couple of attempts to write a Constitution, and various referendums open to public vote to approve them. This is covered adequately in the French article, but is almost completely absent here.  This article should explain, or at least summarize, how the French Constitution of 27 October 1946 (currently a stub) came about; I'll add a link to it. Mathglot (talk) 00:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constitution 

message: So, the English Wikipedia has articles entitled First and Second French Empire.  Number, then nationality - which is proper according to the rules of adjectival order in English.
This is not a matter of empires vs. republics, as we also have articles on the First and Second Spanish Republics.
Yet we persist with this inaccurate and inconsistent "nationality, then number" rule for the French Republics. I'm going to assume that a non-native English speaker made the innocent mistake of writing "French First Republic" (and continued from there) in the beginning ... but do not understand why we insist on perpetuating this mistake.
But then, we spent two decades displaying the wrong flag of Austria-Hungary, so I guess we're a stubborn bunch? 2600:1702:6D0:5160:D9B3:92CC:9790:303E (talk) 20:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency - move to Fourth French Republic