Talk:Gulf Oil

message: I am the author of about 60% of the Gulf Oil article. My contribution is mainly based on my memories of working at Gulf's "Eastern Hemisphere" office near Marble Arch, London from 1980 to 1983. Initially it was a bustling office with activity continuing on an international and 24/7 basis. Things changed overnight in January 1983, when a lot of the European operations were sold off to KPC. The place suddenly became like the Marie Celeste . I enjoyed working for Gulf and was sorry to leave at the end of August 1983. Bob
BScar23625 09:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: Just so you know, I was the one who put the info about several Pittsburgh-area Texaco stations switching to Gulf a while back. That pretty much doubled the amount of Gulf stations here. I'm not sure if the remaining Texaco stations are switching to Gulf or not (they have until the end of June to do so), since Shell is just barely in the area, but it would help Gulf's case out. (One Texaco in New Brighton, PA switched to Sunoco--as if we needed another Sunoco here--since there was an existing Gulf down the road, but the rest of the Texaco's that have changed here have changed to Gulf.) The only other case I know of Gulf coming back is at one of the many truck stops in Breezewood, PA where Gulf replaced Union 76, but it's been years since I've been out to Breezewood. If you know of any other examples of Gulf's comeback, list them if you want.
I personally think that down the road, GOLP may eventually be bought out again, whether it be by Chevron again (Chevron seems to be buyout-happy right now) or maybe ConocoPhillips to give them a Northeastern brand.
And one more note: my mom went to Tennessee last summer to see my uncle, and she saw a fully-operational Gulf station down there. I don't know how that would be. I'm not sure if Chevron or BP ended up with Gulf in Tennessee, but it couldn't be supplied by them.Jgera5 00:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gulf's Comeback 

message: This is an exceptionally interesting article to read, I'm being very critical because it should really be nominated for Featured Article Status. 
I have added  where a statement is POV but with citation will eliminated
The opening claims on size needs to be cited
The Bantry terminal was devastated by the explosion of a Petrofina tanker (the Betelguese) in January 1979 Theres a potential article here. Gnangarra
Completed history section.
to be continued.... sorry ran out of time will be back within 12 hours Gnangarra 02:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gnangarra. Thakyou for your feedback, which is most welcome. I will continue chipping away at the Gulf article whenever I have some free time and will renominate it for Good Article status when your points have been addressed. I was a very minor bit-player in the story for a while and much of the article is based on my recollections rather than published sources. As far as I can recall, "the Betelguese incident" was a catalogue of human and equipment failure which left about 70 people dead. The clean up and salvage operation took about 5 years to complete. Bob BScar23625 07:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination 

message: I have recently reviewed this article & found that it meets the criterion for being a good article. So I have promoted it to GA status. My congratulations BScar23625 & all the other contributors for doing a fine job.
Cheers
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 08:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I not sure about which category this article should be listed in as a GA. I have currently listed this under category History & subcategory Americas. If this is incorrect, please correct it. Thanks Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 08:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Promotion 

message: According to their article on Wikipedia, Gulf's HQ was the target of a bombing attack by the Weather Underground terrorists... isn't this notable enough to add to the article?  Normally I'd just throw it in there and let the court of public opinion decide if it should stay, but since this article has just been promoted to Good Article and is being considered for Featured Article status, I'm leery of editing it.
Thanks, Tmorrisey 15:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: if there enough info then it should be there also check that the page and links back to here as well Gnangarra 08:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weather Underground Attack 

message: There seems to be some confusion about the top of the former Gulf Building in Pittsburgh, which is now the Gulf Tower condos.
Having grown up in Pittsburgh during the '50's and '60s, and having lived there through the '70s, I can tell you that the entire step-pyramid structure on top of the building was illuminated and changed color with changes in barometric pressure -- not just the beacon at the pinnacle. I've added this fact to the article, along with a supporting link.
At some point, probably in the late '70s, they stopped illuminating the entire pyramid structure -- but kept the color-changing weather beacon at the peak. More recently, they've apparently resumed illuminating the entire pyramid, but it may be only standard floodlights (I haven't been back there in many years).
In any case, many Internet links mention the beacon, but not the fact that the entire pyramid structure (several stories tall) was illuminated and changed color. The link I added supports it, but someone might want to do some additional research. I'm sure there are many archive photos out there showing the entire top illuminated in red or blue. 
--NameThatWorks 17:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Top of the Building

message: Guys. In the late 1960s, Gulf added 6 "Universe class" tankers to its fleet. These were each about 300,000 tonnes dwt, making them the biggest vessels in the world at that time. They were chartered from the shipping company D.K.Ludwig and were Liberian registered.  
I know the names of 5 of them - Universe Ireland, Universe Kuwait, Universe Japan, Universe Portugal, and Universe Iran. What was the name of the 6th?. 
I believe that after the Suez Canal reopened in 1975, most ULCCs including (presumably) the Universe tankers, were made redundant since they were too big to pass through the canal. What happened to the Universe tankers?. Any answers to my 2 questions will be appreciated. Bob BScar23625 12:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This page lists the following as part of the Gulf fleet: Universe Apollo,  Universe Guardian, Universe Iran, Universe Ireland, Universe Japan, Universe Korea, Universe Kuwait, Universe Leader, Universe Portugal. Universe Korea appears to be the one of 300,000+ dwt missing from your list. Cheers Geologyguy 15:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Universe class tankers

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gulf2.jpeg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gulf3.gif

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gulftanker.jpeg

message: As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "World History-Americas" articles. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. However, in reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed. I have made minor corrections and have included several points below that need to be addressed for the article to remain a GA. Please address them within seven days and the article will maintain its GA status. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted. If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. 
#The "Other information" section needs to be cleaned up and removed. It reads as a trivia section and should have any relevant information incorporated into the existing sections. Anything else that can't be sourced or isn't that notable should be removed.
#A few of the statements concerning numerical figures should be sourced such as "In that year, the company processed 1.3 million barrels of crude daily, held assets worth $6.5 billion, employed 58,000 employees worldwide, and was owned by 163,000 shareholders."
Altogether, this article doesn't have very many problems except for the large trivia-like section. If that is cleaned-up and/or removed, I will pass the article as a GA. I will leave the article on hold for seven days, but if progress is being made and an extension is needed, one may be given. I will leave messages on the talk pages of the main contributors to the article along with related WikiProjects/task forces so that the workload can be shared. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 04:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking over the information in that section, there is some that isn't really necessary for inclusion in the article. I watched the YouTube video, and don't see the significance of including it within the article. If you do, it could probably be moved to the external links section. I think most of the bullets could be converted to prose and incorporated into a "Marketing and sponsorships" section that covers the advertising and sponsor-deals that Gulf has had. This would create a new section and eliminate most of the unrelated points. "On June 17, 1974, Gulf Oil's Pittsburgh headquarters was bombed by the Weathermen to protest against Gulf's operations in Angola, Vietnam, and elsewhere. Nobody was hurt and damage was minimal." Could be moved to one of the above history sections, since it appears to be a significant event. If these above edits are made, the only points that would be left are the current first (Gulf of Mexico) and fourth (aviation) bullets, which seem trivial and could be removed (unless you can think of another area where they could go or be expanded). Good job with adding the source, and let me know if you have any further questions. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 23:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

message: I believe the article now meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: Pass

message: I edited the Cities takeover material to remove the word "clutches" which was blatant POV. I also added considerable detail including share prices that clarifies the sequence of events and money involved in that complex episode.
Really what needs to happen is that a new page should be created which gives in detail the Cities battle and this article should just link to it but right now that page does not exist apparently. Another thing that needs to be done is to explain more clearly and in greater detail why the Cities deal compromised Gulf. John Chamberlain (talk) 18:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Demise: Cities Takeover

message: I have a cirtificate for 10 shares of capital stock for the The Gulf Developement Company dated July 1918 and 4 letters that has the Spindletop logo and is signed by R. Hughes (vice president).  The Stock cirtificate belonged to my Great great Grandfather.  Does anyone have any information on this company and does the stock have any value?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonamcguire (talk • contribs) 04:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Gulf Developement Co. Inc. 

message: Something needs to happen to this article. It is extremely misleading and confusing. It starts off by talking about the original company, but quickly goes off on tangents about resurrections of the brand and the current owners. The infobox was a mess and catered randomly to the UK based company instead of the original brand the article is about. I think there needs to be three articles. One for the original brand, one for the international brand, and one for the US brand. Each are completely unrelated besides having the same name and a common history. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 23:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok well I split out the American Gulf brand and trimmed down the other one to a reasonable degree considering that this article is about the historical company and the brand. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

message: Sunoco owns what once was the Philadelphia Gulf refinery, adjoining the ARCO refinery.  I do not know just when the purchase happened. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunoco owns Philadelphia Gulf refinery 

message: "Gulf's former headquarters, originally referred to as "the Gulf Building" (now the Gulf Tower office condos), is an Art Deco skyscraper. The tallest building in Pittsburgh until 1970, when it was eclipsed by the U.S. Steel Tower, it is capped by a step pyramid structure several stories high. Until 1973, the entire top was illuminated, changing color with changes in barometric pressure to provide a weather indicator that could be seen for many miles. After 1973 until the 2000s, only a beacon on top would change colors."
I'm not sure why this is is important enough to cover 1/3 of the lead section. Consider cutting it in half perhaps? Game Is (assumedly) Wikipedian (tea?) 00:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headquarters Info