Talk:Wesley College, Perth

message: A user "Genaugikeit" removed the section on the former head master John Bednall child pornography scandal in 2010 claiming it was "irrelevant". However I think it was noteworthy enough to be included, it should not have been removed and should be re-instated. Failing any objections I will put the text in next time I check back as per the discussion below. 222.152.170.116 (talk) 11:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Bednall scandal removed 

message: The WC College website has alot of information in regard to sporting, old boys association etc on it, i think this resource could be tapped further. Refer to the Aquinas College, Perth page for a general idea. Smbarnzy 16:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements 

message: Chanjoh,
Please advise your motive for deleting the whole Wesley College content and moving it to 'WC Perth'.
Consider this.
:I'm a bit confused by this. If the name of the school is Wesley College then should not the article be at Wesley College, Perth rather than at WC Perth. If it's to be WC anything then it should be at WC, Perth. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it should be moved back to Wesley College, Perth, and it was indeed moved from that precise site earlier (see page history).  I suspect the article being moved is related to the simultaneous blanking of the article's content which I have since revised. --Ian peters 16:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved it back as WC Perth does not follow naming conventions. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving/deleting content 

message: Fair use clearly states Where no free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information, as this article is about a school and is/has obviously been edited by staff, students past and present there is no reason for the use of copyrighted images within the article. Gnangarra 15:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image copyright 

message: Most of this entire article is straight copied from the schools and the P&F website.  I've tried to merge two parallel threads of history into one and remove most of the blatant advertising & POV.  I don't think that I've deleted anything that was really, really important.  I also removed a number of photos which weren't encyclopaedic and only cluttered the article.  I suggest that if the boys want a project they take some photos themselves and upload with suitable tags rather than fair-use ones taken from the P&F website. — Moondyne 04:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: I have been trying to make this page more Neautral but it is very hard without any facts or citations, here are my questions.
# when was the "$13 million refurbishment of the Joseph Green Centre" planned, Is there any documentaiton?
# Has it already started?
# How will the "Building for a Better Future" campaign raise $4 million, it does not make sense, is it an advertisement that is supposed to bring 4 million dollars worth of new students to the school? or is the school expecting people to donate 4 million dollars to the school?
# Is this a 13 million dollar refurbishment of the Joseph Green Centre, or is it a brand new "state-of-the-art (blatant advertising)" buillding which does not at the present time exist?, make up your mind.
# What "KIND" is it? "this building project will be the largest of its kind in any private school in Western Australia."
AC Boy 07:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blatant Advertising and Important changes. 

message: I think the article needs to mention Wesley Sports club and the facilities it offers not only to Wesley College and associated persons but the community in general. As a wikipedian living in South Perth, my closests contact to Wesley College is via their sports club in the use of their weights room and swimming pool facilities and i think that it is very notable within the general South Perth community. Smbarnzy 13:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wesley Sports Club 

message: The danger is that it starts to get a bit wordy and gives the section more prominence than it deserves.  But, perhaps that cannot be helped and is an incentive to expand the rest of the article to keep it balanced.  So:
During 2002 headmaster John Bednall was sacked by the school amid allegations that he had accessed child pornography on the internet. Criminal charges were laid against him but withdrawn by police in April 2004. Bednall subsequently sued Wesley for wrongful termination claiming his "... international and national reputation as an educator of boys has been irreparably damaged". 
—Moondyne 14:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is "a bit wordy" and perhaps we are getting off-topic.  Support 'v.4' - Fred 15:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

text: On second thoughts, how about the equivalent of List of Australian political scandals for abuse of minors by people in a similar positions of 'authority'. A large amount of caution in terminology of title, IMO, to avoid POV issues.  -  Fred 16:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy with v4.  I'm being bold and inserting it into the article (at the bottom). —Moondyne 01:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is quite good (inserted text in page), although calling it controversy im not so sure about, possibly "child porn scandal" or "John Bendall scandal" or something along those lines, possibly something from the west of the time... Smbarnzy 13:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  V5 

message: This article seems to have been unofficially rated by its editors back in February as a B/low for the purposes of both WikiProject Perth WikiProject Schools. I have now re-assessed it for WPSchools and am changing the rating to Start/Mid. The article has some good pictures but unfortunately there are a number of problems with the text. Most importantly the history section is in breach of copyright as it has nearly all been copied and pasted from the school's own website. There seems to be an unusual and excessive focus on the buildings of the school. The section on the building program is already out of date. The section on school facilities goes into excessive detail, and would benefit from being trimmed and written in a prose style. The section on uniform is not of any interest to anyone outside the school. The school war cry has no reference so it is not possible to establish if it is genuine, and it is also potentially in breach of copyright. Focus less on the trivia and instead write about subjects which are of interest to a wider readership. Most importantly you need references, especially for the history section and for the alumni. (The current ref 4 is just a photo of a forklift truck and the page for ref 5 won't download.) Ask at WP Schools if you need help. I am giving the article a mid importance rating based on the sporting alumni, assuming that they can be proven with appropriate references. Dahliarose 22:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested reassessment

message: I have attempted to address multiple issues with article including
* general grammar issues
* NPOV issues - "grew in reputation", "celebrated great successes", "panoramic views" etc
* unnecessary detail on house system - every school like Wesley has a house system and they nearly all operate the same way, compete for trophies, are based on founders, house tutors etc.
* undue emphasis on buildings - it reflects poorly on the school that its history seems characterised by a succession of building plans
* campus details, such as location of schools, street frontage etc are not notable
* school uniform - utterly non-notable detail and of no general interest Murtoa (talk) 04:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues with article

message: This sloppy cut and paste move, with "fix" given as an edit summary, is not good editing. This page was moved from "Wesley College, Perth" to "Wesley College (Western Australia)", with a valid reason given. If you disagree with the move, raise the issue on the talk page, do not make cut-and-paste moves. I♦A 04:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been fixed now, but you are correct that cut-and-paste moves are never the way to go. Jenks24 (talk) 04:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sloppy editing 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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