Talk:Mushroom hunting

message: *Rules for mushroom hunting - Wikipedia is not guide to safety. If this article remains there must be a disclaimer at the top of this article. Mintguy 23:23, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfD 

message: What is a webcap?  Is that a cortinarius?  Please use latin name so that others could understand.
Thanks.
--PiKeeper 02:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Webcaps?

message: "Do not mix known edibles with other species while gathering. Keep them in separate containers. A single poisonous mushroom can poison a whole basket, if this occurs, throw everything."
* I haven't heard this before. Debivort 01:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this true? 

message: Thus, the "rules" section is unencyclopedic. Instead of describing it in an encyclopedic summary style, it goes into indiscriminate detail.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 12:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It describes the mushroom picking process. I see nothing wrong. 99.236.221.124 (talk) 17:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a how-to guide 

message: Here's my thoughts on edits, major and minor, for this page:
"This is popular in most of Europe, including the Nordic, Baltic and Slavic countries and the Mediterranean Basin[citation needed]" -- Okay, in principle everything should be verifiable.  However, I can imagine that it will be very hard to find a primary source on this.  Do we really need a citation?  Why is this tagged?  It seems like "common knowledge" to me.
The section on identification should, I think, describe the two major ways mushrooms are identified:  folkloric knowledge and identification using keys and micro- and macroscopic characteristics.  I would like to see some detail on the process of mushroom identification.  Is there a page in Wikiproject Fungi that already covers that information?  If not, I think that would be a great thing to include here!  I am not an expert on the folkloric knowledge, but I'm sure someone could add some information on how that is normally taught.  I can add a section on identification of mushrooms using keys and morphologic characteristics.
"Only experts, however, collect from dangerous groups..."  Not true.  What is considered "easily identifiable" and "dangerous" is highly cultural.  Amanita caesaria is commonly collected in Italy by non-experts with only folkloric knowledge - but the knowledge is plenty good enough to keep them safe in their area.
However, that brings me to one of the major changes:  I propose that we move the mushroom hunting safety rules to Wikibooks.  I have created an empty Wikibook Mushroom_Hunting for the purpose.  Unless someone can offer a good reason why we should not do that, I think it should go into a Wikibook with a link over here, and a simple note which says something like, "Mushroom hunters often follow a set of safety rules to prevent poisonings."  The safety rules could be replaced by a short section on the major risk behaviors:  namely, hunting with inadequate knowledge and *especially* people that move from another part of the world and assume that the "rules" they learned as children will apply to the new fungal species.
Regional importance:  Is mushroom hunting really all that much more popular along the Pacific coast?  I ran into quite a few other hunters in Ohio, too!
I think we should add a section on environmental considerations in mushroom hunting.  These vary by country - from the US, where the major threat to most species is habitat destruction, to the NL, where chanterelles have apparently been hunted to extinction and nearly everything that is edible or interesting is considered threatened.  The comments about radioactivity, global warming, etc. can go here too.
The section on Russian edibles is great!  I have been thinking about adding a similar section on Pacific Northwest edibles to the "Edible Mushroom" page.  I think perhaps the solution is to make pages with regional lists of edible mushrooms.  I propose moving the list at the bottom of this page to a page, "List of edible mushrooms in Russia" and creation of a page "List of edible mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest."  These pages would then be linked off of both Edible_mushroom and Mushroom_hunting.
I will have some time in the next few days to make these kind of changes.  Anyone have any thoughts before I start?Revdrace (talk) 15:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: "Never try to convince anyone else to eat a mushroom that you have identified as poisonus."
Shouldn't this be more like: "that you have not identified as safe" ?
Carlw4514 (talk) 18:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rule 2

message: Why are these two below under the "Commonly gathered mushrooms" list?
* Amanita phalloides (Бледная Поганка [Blednaya Poganka] - Pale Toadstool; The Death Cap)
* Amanita virosa (Мухомор Вонючий [Mukhomor Vonyuchiy] - Stinky Fly-Killer; The Destroying Angel)
Please provide a reson on why these lethal mushrooms are commonly gathered.  Xufanc (talk) 22:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Commonly gathered mushrooms?

message: It says:
Literature and picking guides also frequently offer reminders to always cut a mushroom with a blade when gathering, rather than pulling it out, and to avoid kicking or otherwise destroying mushrooms one does not want, to preserve the forest ecosystem.
However:
You must dig up the base to look for a volva to rule out Amanitas in many cases  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.36.48 (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: muscaria are fine if you boil them and throw away the water. Also you must drink vodka with them or you will puke. Didn't your grandmother teach you anything ;) 99.236.221.124 (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut or Dig? 

message: It says:
Literature and picking guides also frequently offer reminders to always cut a mushroom with a blade when gathering, rather than pulling it out, and to avoid kicking or otherwise destroying mushrooms one does not want, to preserve the forest ecosystem.
However:
You must dig up the base to look for a volva to rule out Amanitas in many cases  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.36.48 (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't forget to check the volva 

message: I am not sure that multiple paragraphs on the social etiquette of mushroom hunting in Spain are necessary. Though, I will concede it is interesting, it is unsourced and I am pretty sure it is original research from one contributor. Unless anyone has a reasonable objection, I propose deletion for these paragraphs. WesUGAdawg (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "For example a picker's wife could be talking about her friends and how one of them was running late at a Seville-style dance class ("clase de sevillanas") since her husband had taken her car to go to Segovia. The picker, aware of his wife's friend's husband being a picker, may well decide to go out to a bar that night and discretely inquire about the suspect picker's activities to see if he shows reluctance to mention his trip to Segovia. Leads like this one will then be used to further investigate until a new source of mushrooms is eventually identified. It should be noted, however, that senior pickers often spread false leads to keep their counterparts second-guessing and expose their lack of investigative skills."
This sounds like someone just telling a story.  Why does the story have to tell in such detail the type of dance class.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.220.35.164 (talk) 19:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional Importance 

message: None of the WP mushroom articles seem to cover the relationship of animals to mushrooms.  Which animals consume mushrooms?  How do they know which ones are safe?  How often do they make mistakes?  What are the consequences?  Dogs, cats, pets and mushrooms?
Which animals react to various mushrooms the most similar to humans?  Can a human stranded in the wild get useful guidance about safe/edible mushrooms from observing animals?
A mushroom was nibbled at the edge by an animal. The next day, a chipmunk ate the whole thing. Did the chipmunk taste-test the mushroom first, wait a day for a bad reaction, then decide it was safe to consume?-96.237.78.13 (talk) 13:01, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mushrooms and animals 

message: This article says "Another well known mushroom known as the portobello is a large brown strain of this fungus" (referring to Agaricus bisporus, without mentioning anything about the maturity stage of the mushroom), but the Agaricus bisporus article says that a "Portobello" is merely a mature specimen of Agaricus bisporus (without mentioning a strain or color). An old version of a now-deprecated  article makes some reference to both strain and maturity. Can we clarify this, please? Does a "Portobello" need to be a particular brown strain of Agaricus bisporus? Does it need to be a mature specimen? —BarrelProof (talk) 16:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portobello description 

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message: I cannot find any information related to the ecological aspects of mushroom hunting on mushroom biodiversity and aboundance, and it's effect on other forest species which are dependent on mushrooms. Couldn't find much info on the internet, except a research done in Switzerland with a less than adequate methodology.
Considering that mushroom picking is becoming a mainstream worldwide trend, I am worried that it could have negative effects. 
I am hoping that someone could shed some light on the subject so that, if it is of importance, it could be added to the article.
Thanks.77.139.189.226 (talk) 10:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mushroom hunting ecology 

message: Hello everyone! I am a new student editor currently taking a course at Texas A&M University. I saw that this article needed some improvement, so I'll be editing this page over the next few weeks to complete my assignment. My goal is to shift the tone of the article to be more encyclopedic, as well as some reorganization if necessary to build a more coherent article. I'll be running my major changes through one of my sandboxes first, and moving them to this page when it feels finished, so feel free to check on that if you like!
I'd love to hear from any editor who has questions or comments about my contributions, or tips for a new editor! Thanks, Jsalads (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Student Editor 

message: I've reorganized some paragraphs and renamed a section (Safety and Misidentification). I renamed in order to include the misidentification information as well as the "guidelines" to avoid seeming like a how-to. I also moved a paragraph about mushrooms that are popular to hunt and eat from the "Identifying mushrooms" section into the "Commonly gathered" section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsalads (talk • contribs) 17:56, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganization

message: I rewrote most of the Identifying mushrooms section because it did not have an encyclopedic tone. I also decided to contribute my knowledge of the spore printing technique to identify mushrooms that are found. I rewrote some of the Commonly misidentified mushrooms content for clarity, mentioning the poisonous mushroom first before the edible lookalike each time. I also changed the tone to be more encyclopedic. I tagged one thing for clarification in the little brown mushroom subheading, and the rest I edited for encyclopedic tone as well.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsalads (talk • contribs) 22:56, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Identifying Mushrooms/Safety and Misidentification

message: In both of these sections, I rewrote sentences to maximize clarity and removed argumentative statements.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsalads (talk • contribs) 01:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Commonly gathered mushrooms and Regional Importance

message: Where to find mushrooms in st. Louis 2600:1700:69C0:B80:E4C8:B1AE:8B98:E39A (talk) 07:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where to find 

message: There's a lot of old myth and legend around mushrooms and mushroom hunting. For example, the connection with the moon and lunar cycles. There's a lot of focus on identifying mushrooms in this article, which is praxis not -doxy. Most of it should be removed, really. Encyclopedias exist to say what, not how. Adding info actually about mushroom hunting, rather than how to do it and identifying mushrooms, would greatly improve things here. Heavy Chaos (talk) 23:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical and ancient practices are always interesting.