Talk:Xbox Game Studios

message: MS preps a "Vault" subsidiary ahead of Zenimax acquisition completion. Whether that means that this will be where the studios will be under at XGS or not, its not clear yet, but I'm leaving this here once that happens. --Masem (t) 14:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It says that Vault "will be merged with and into ZeniMax" (emphasis added), suggesting that Vault (probably a shell corporation) will be disestablished upon the merger (á la reverse merger), while ZeniMax is preserved as-is unless it is renamed. This is most likely just legal shenanigans, so we will need to see how it plays out first. Some media outlets are framing this very poorly as Vault becoming a proper division within Microsoft/XGS that will replace ZeniMax, even though this is far (very far) from clear as of right now. IceWelder [✉] 14:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Right, I'm not planning to add yet, as its not clear how it will come out, I'm just leaving this in case we need that tracking at some point. --Masem (t) 14:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A potential aspect re Zenimax 

message: Seeing as how there have been a few back and forth edits, I wanted to clarify the reasoning for adding a publishing label to the chart. It makes sense to make a clear distinction as to which games are going to under the Bethesda umbrella and which are under the Xbox Games Studios umbrella. Not only does it improve readability, it also will be good future-proofing as Xbox continues to expand. This same thing was once done under the Embracer Group page. That has since been moved to a new page where the publishing label continues to be made apparent. There are 23 studios here, with rumors swirling that more will be added this chart is going to become unwieldy without proper labels on who is publishing what studios games. Tgr williams (talk) 21:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate Publishing Labels 

message: Right now, we list 3 studios under Blizzard (it's Irvine headquarters, and Albany and Boston). But this seems rather arbitrary. Why would Cork, Austin, Seoul, Shanghai, Sydney and Taipei not be listed? Why do we list 3 of the 11 studios within King? YannickFran (talk) 22:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Irvine shouldn't be listed as an individual entity. We're not listing offices, we're listing subsidiaries. Albany and Boston are actual separate corporate entities. -- ferret (talk) 22:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  When do and when don't we list something as a studio 

message: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/23933049/microsoft-reorg-xbox-marketing-ai-leadership-changes
https://www.eurogamer.net/xbox-re-organises-studios-brings-bethesda-under-matt-bootys-control
If I am reading this right...
* Spencer leads Microsoft Gaming
* Booty now leads the gaming software division under this, which includes only XGS and Zenimax
* Activision Blizzard is directly under Spencer
* also Xbox stuff is directly under Spencer.
Masem (t) 19:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: They're all under Xbox game studios you guys just don't understand. Who you report to doesn't matter that's just company structure. Just look on the Xbox website it tells you right there Bethesda is a part of Xbox game studios 24.188.230.3 (talk) 01:59, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New re org 

message: Demonware also has locations in Vancouver, Canada and Shanghai, China alongside its Dublin, Leinster
Ireland location. 66.61.198.60 (talk) 05:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demonware other locations 

message: I'm not sure how in-depth we are going for other locations looking to Blizzard. Are we including satellite studios? Former separate? Because Zenimax Online, for instance, has like 9 offices. DeoGame (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We are only including studios that are considered a separate corporate entity under the parent's structure. Satellite offices are generally not a separate entity. Masem (t) 21:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, studios in other jurisdiction are usually separate entities or are part of some intermediate holding when in larger corporate structures. This is just not documented all too well. For example, Blizzard's Cork office most likely falls under Blizzard Entertainment Ireland Limited. Still, I agree that this page can be significantly cut down, perhaps starting with studios that literally are not part of XGS. There should not be a table of non-XGS studios just because Microsoft Gaming currently has no article. ZeniMax has its own, as does ActiBlizz, so why does XGS's table need to be artifically inflated? IceWelder [✉] 22:10, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Locations 

message: Just go on the Xbox website and you'll see that Bethesda is a part of Xbox Gme Studios. In a couple months, Activision Blizzard will be too. So just add them all on the same page 24.188.230.3 (talk) 01:48, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: A website doesn't confirm anything about a corporate structure. We have created Microsoft Games which is the parent org that contains all three of them. Masem (t) 02:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This is stupid. Xbox game studios should all be on one page but you idiots are trying to make it seem like there is some division between the studios. They all are under the same damn company. Just list all the studios in one area to make it easier to navigate. Why the fuck would i want to search other pages when it could all be on one page. 24.188.230.3 (talk) 23:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We're not trying to make it seem like anything. There IS a division between them, and you can find all the studios at said division's article, Microsoft Gaming. -- ferret (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the debate?