Talk:Swans (band)

message: ought someone to mention that their music inspired the then-drummer of Napalm Death, Mick Harris, to name grindcore grindcore, after saying that it was like the gridnig noise of Swans, but faster? 80.0.121.5 (talk) 20:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Influence on other genres

message: I've had a go at a different split of the article into three main sections.  I've removed the Burning World section, since it didn't seem to make sense to have a whole section devoted to just one album, especially when it's not one of their best.  Comments welcomed. --Richardrj 13:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections

message: Added this template  I created  to the article.  Comments welcome. Lugnuts 20:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Swans template 

message: I've worked/am working through the discog and I've added most of their albums.  Would like help from anyone who would like to "pad out" the individual album entries, so to speak.  Including full running times, cover art, any other trivia/notes, etc. Thanks!Lugnuts 10:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discog help

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Swans, 82.jpg

message: Is it like Scorpions, in that it is just "Swans" and not "The Swans"? Cubs Fan 04:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, it's just Swans.  I believe there is/was a band from Manchester that is/was called The Swans. Lugnuts 07:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The band themselves doesn't seem to care as religiously about avoiding the "the" as fans do, though. For example, Gira talks about the Swans' new album at the beginning of this 1987 performance. --Delirium (talk) 10:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: drone metal is fairly uncontroversial, but the grunge is likely to construct a kneejerk reaction. if you define grunge as the sound developed by early nirvana, early soundgarden and the melvins, it is quite obvious that swans had an incredible influence on the sound. cobain has cited 'raping a slave' as a primary influence. regardless of how this is eventually interpreted, the connection between no wave and grunge is very strong and should be acknowledged.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.24.135 (talk) 15:55, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can source it, you can add it. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:30, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

text: And honestly, even if you got a source claiming either of those, it'd be much probably challenged. While definitely a highly influential band in the development of the sound of the harsher strains of drone metal, their sound is not that of the genre. And as per grunge, the "genre" (several critics have claimed that it was more of a marketing term than a true subgenre) is so sprawling that only a handful of bands were influenced by noise rock, let alone early Swans' very particular style. Being an influence is not the same as being an example. 201.190.31.192 (talk) 21:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  i've added grunge and drone metal to the genres list 

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