Talk:Murder of Shafilea Ahmed

message: Another editor wrote: 
:This page may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. The given reason is: G4: recreation of deleted content. This is the third incarnation of this page. I can't actually be sure that this is "a substantially identical copy" because I can't see the previous versions, but it's pretty similar to my recollection of the second incarnation. If it's not close enough for G4, it could be deleted as nn-bio or copyvio; or taken to AfD again
My comments: I don't have access to the version of the article discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shafilea Ahmed, but the old version was deleted because it violated WP:NPOV. The latest version is just a stub, but is free of WP:NPOV problems. And I think the case is notable because it deals with a so-called "honor killing", rather than a more routine murder. The stub should still be expanded, preferably by someone more familiar with the case than myself. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 01:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly it is a notable case as it has been among the most prominent murder cases in the UK in recent years, whether it is an honour killing or not (as per Wikipedia policy British English spellings should be used in the article because it relates to an incident in the UK) that is speculation and so far no one has been convicted over anything to do with the case and there is not considered to be sufficent evidence at present to charge anyone, there are arguments that maybe it doesn't merit a seperate article and that perhaps it should be as part of another article, perhaps a UK Murder related article that grouped together a number of murders maybe by time period?--Lord of the Isles 22:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The problem to a great extent is that it is disputed whether or not there was an arranged marriage, it is not at this moment clear with what regard 8 members of the extended family are being charged for attempting to pervert the course of justice in regard to and because that charge even though it is not a charge for the murder, it relates to the course of the investigation it is of course Sub judice.--Lord of the Isles 00:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sure you are right.  Unfortunately, we cannot let our opinions into an encyclopedia.  Please read and study the links I've left on your talk page.  If you need help citing sources, I can offer assistance. —<script type="text/javascript" src="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Omegatron/monobook.js/addlink.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>Viriditas | Talk 14:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not intended for campaigning though, it is important to remember that, there are other forums that are suited to such.  So far as I can see this case has largely been forgotten about and there appears to have been no further news in relation to it in the past 2 months, unfortunate but true - the case may well never be solved.--Lord of the Isles 21:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Previous versions

message: I reverted to the version by Lord of the Isles, but I think we can still use TheDr's edits. Here they are in bullet form:
*[Shafilea Ahmed] went missing September 11th 2003. The police believe she was a victim of an alleged 'Honour killing'. After she had turned down an arranged marriage. *Poems and info cited on . You can see The videos of the poems being read out on here []
*-It was on this trip that Miss Ahmed, had an alleged suicide attepmt. She had swallowed an adequeate amount of bleach that had damaged her throat, and she needed much medical attention. Her father denied she had done it dilberatly, but was an accident when there was a power cut.   	 
*Information form British Newspaper  	 
* It must be stressed that this is on going case.
—Viriditas | Talk 14:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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* The proposed guideline I am following is Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts).  There is a subsection on article title that says:
:— Artichoke2020 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
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message: * https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/missing-shafilea-murder-case-2936751
* https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-mail-on-sunday/20120805/283416303805872
* http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/3240298.stm - Authorities were prepared to go to Pakistan to look for her
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thread_title:  Other articles 

message: The Daily Telegraph posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCP3R0YZZJo, with Alesha's face pixelated out
WhisperToMe (talk) 20:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video of Shafilea at a wedding 

message: Is there more information about Shafilea Ahmed's father's adolescence other than him migrating to UK as a child and marrying a Danish woman? Is there any information based on his birth and the year he immigrated to the UK? I am considering adding Iftikhar Ahmed's life as a young man in the background section. 2A02:C7C:B459:F500:2D70:68C9:EB89:2E14 (talk) 19:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backstory of Iftikhar Ahmed in detail