Talk:Urmia

message: Under the Etymology section it, though with no reference, clearly asseverates that the city is per se a Sumerian in origin since its name contains a part, namely "Ur-". Even if one could take such an etymology for granted, no body could ever relate the city or its founding fathers to any Sumerian at all. Because as far as the hard evidences from archaeological surveys confirm, the city has nothing to do with Sumerians in origin. Such a claim, namely Urmia being originally Sumerian, just reminds me of Pan Turkish craps pretending many various civilizations (from Parthians to Sumerians) to be Turkish, whilst providing nothing outside of whimisical notions instead of scientific material. For more information about the origin of the city please check up The Bronze Age of Iran and The Iron Age of Iran both written by the Iranian archaeologist Dr. Hassan Talai. The Urmia Pottery Tradition, for instance, is absolutely unique and distinguishable from lets say that of typically Sumerian areas.
By the way for the seemingly ever-devastating racial conflicts, which are unfortunately very common within Middle East, I can tell that if I'm not mistaken some 5 years ago after a secterian quarrel, particularly between Shiite Azeris and Sunnite Kurds, in a highschool which resulted in a murder; the authorities ran a census amongst Muslim students within the urban area and allegedely the results gave 55% sunnites and 45% shiites. I unfortunately cannot provide any data on this since its result was secret and I just relate the hearsay. From my personal experience I always hold that the city is a little bit mostly populated by Azeris while regarding to the county, including the surrounding rural areas, the Kurdish populace outnumbers that of Azeri. Although in the recent years many Kurdish individuals have headed all the way to the urban areas and thus you may feel the Kurdish tone of the city more and more.--Kak Language          — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.38.13.151 (talk) 10:52, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: On The Mentioned Sumerian Origin

message: As long as I know majority of the population in Urmia are Azeri. The name of the province, West Azerbaijan, shows this fact. I don't know why the person who provided the content insist to show that the Kurds are majority. I believe we should provide accurate information instead of insisting on opinions without any proof.
The Name Westazerbaijan is given to this Region after the fall of the republic Mahabad it is nothing more than a political Term rather having to do with Azeris. the Big Majority of so called Westazerbaijan is kurdish this is a fact never heared about Azeris in Mahabad. Simar--84.58.181.111 (talk) 03:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Thank you for your answer.
# Is it srange that my turkish be better than yours?! 
#  saqez; the word Saqez here means GUM . And I should explain some thing about saqez. if you study a litle about kurdish language and its pronounciation you will see that it has the ability to pronounce many other languages for exemple Kurdish language, So I mean kurdish speakng people can pronounce the Turkish words saqiz (gum) and sekiz (eight) with no problem (maybe UNLIKE persian speakings) so the way they pronounce it as saqiz has a logic meaning beacause of many trees who produce gum in that region (around city of Saqiz). 
#There are (and have been) enough sources to ptrove Kurds have been in thousand years in this province (area). But in fact this is your claim that is strange!
#About Kurdish Question I do not think so because kurds do NOT love war, blood and fighting they have been forced to defend themselves because of unjust condition and situation in which they are. In fact this is the faschist goverments and regimes of the Middle East who are not innocent not this oppressed ethnic group (as well as other ones).
#I see all of iranians are in poor comditions. 
#About political topics I do not like to discuss in Wikipedia. 
Thank You
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.151.43.53 (talk) 10:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dear Dr Hamed

message: I would like to know why the category Assyria is allowed while category Kurdistan is being removed? Is there exact boundaries for Assyria? As far as I remember that's the main reason given for removing the Kurdistan category. Heja Helweda 22:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Assyria should be removed and replaced with Assyrian (people) Chaldean 22:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category: Assyria 

message: Some 15 years ago Urmia in Iran was a half-Kurdish, half-Azeri town. Now it is almost totally Kurdish . Heja Helweda 00:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your source Azerb.com, an Azeri source, is definitely not neutral . There are hundreds of Kurdish sources claiming the same overwhelming majority for Kurds. We need a neutral source, neither Azeri nor Kurdish.Heja Helweda 15:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Azeri sources should be treated just like other sources -- -  K a s h  Talk | email 00:43, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neutral source provided.  SouthernComfort 02:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Russian source on the demographics 

message: In the district (shahrestan) Orumiyeh, virtually all the villages are Kurdish.  But the city itself at least in the last 80 year was more Azeri speaking.  But since the city has grown and incorporated many of the surrounding towns and villages which are virually all Kurdish, it seems that it is hard to tell.  Specially the migrations from many villages in to the towns have been significant all across Iran and Umria is no expection.  The majority of villages in West Azarbaijan are indeed Kurdish, but the town Urmia historically was more Azeri.  Also The Kurdish birth-rate is much higher and this has also lead the city/province to seem perhaps majority Kurdish.  Although it must be emphasized that many Kurds also speak Azeri Turkish as well as Persian.  So actual statistics are hard to come by for now.
--Ali doostzadeh 06:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   The main problem 

message: we know that urmia is an ethnically diverse city, But the majority of Urmia ppl r ethnically Azeris. I had replaced incorrect data which have no reliable reference with the correct data with cited refrences. but Mr or miss 69....(teh ip address) removed them all and wants me to explan here!!!
It's strange that he or she accepts the incorrect and uncited information as a base and does not pay attention to refrences.
Though I want to explain the problem more here:
Any one who visited Urmia knows that the majority of this city are azeri ppl. Urmia is capital of West Azerbaijan province, and the name "azerbaijan" can help u finding the truth out.
The only cited refrence which claims that "majority in urmia is now kurds" is Yuri Nabiev's article about kurds.this article is not about urmia. Nabiev only noted in a sentece that Urmia is almost totally kurdish now. Nabiev's article cannot be reliable by itself due to his ethnicity (he is a kurd originally) and u can see he's nationalist tendency in his site http://www.kurdistan.ru/
I don't mean he is not right because he is a kurd, but I think an article by a kurd is not sufficient to prove that kurds make the majority of Urmia.
If u visit the city or visit other refrences (search them in www) u can simply find out the truth.
Here are some refrences that say 90% of Urmia ppl r Azeris:
 
http://lexicorient.com/e.o/orumiyeh.htm http://www.travel-images.com/az-uromiyeh.html http://www.irantravelingcenter.com/orumieh_rezaieh.htm.
 
you know Urmia,orumieh and orumiyeh are the same.--Dr.Hamed 12:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  People 

message: I am from Urmia and I like kurdish people.But please write the facts.
I invite you to Urmia and to see the facts.
   
The dominant language of the city is Azerbaijani (turkish) because other groups  speak it at their communication with other people of the city.
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I've reverted your edits because you removed a source and generally left the article with multiple grammar mistakes. Please don't remove sources in the future unless you can disprove their authenticity. 
Do have any credible sources to back your claims about Azerbaijani being the dominant language? --334 12:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Write facts

message: I prepared my reference.(منبع: فرهنگ جغرافیایی شهرستانهای کشور شهرستان ارومیه، انتشارات سازمان جغرافیایی نیروهای مسلح، تهران ۱۳۷۹ ص۲۳۹).
This is the only research on Urmia`s groups.all other articles are unreliable because they are only estimations.
--Siavash515 07:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My reference

message: I've switched on semi-protection for this page. There is uncertainty among users about the ethnic makeup of Urmia and this is spiralling into an edit war. Many of those involved are annonymous users or those with newly created accounts. These users seem to have no regard for Wikipedia policy, neutrality or the overall aims of this project, but simply wish to represent their views to the exclusion of others here. Semi-protection stops these users from editing the article. My hope is that a few days of semi-protection will calm things down here, allow us to discuss the points that have been raised and include good points in this article. I also hope that those who are simply trying to disrupt the project will get bored and move off. — Gareth Hughes 12:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection on to calm things down 

message: add other spellings of urmia in main page like: Orumieh,Orumyeh,Orumiyeh,orumieh,ormieh,ormia...
because people use them in their searches.
--Siavash515 07:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Add other spellings of urmia

message: the reason is mentioned in previous section by other user.
If we have the other spellings of urmia be redirects can people find this page in their searches?
if your answer is no we have to add popular spellings to main page.
--Siavash515 06:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing data from Nabiev's Article 

message: There has been no census on ethnicity bases in Iran in recent decades, so all the refrences for who is got the number is baseless realy. 
Mehrdad 19:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No point having edith war on who is majority 

message: All right everybody, just take a moment to think how silly it is to revert the text that basically says the same thing just in different order ("Kurdish and Azeri" vs. "Azeri and kurdish"). This is really childish! Arash the Bowman 13:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone taking part in this revert war must be a child, because this is so childish! I can't believe this, who cares whose first and whose second! Sheesh! Fine, I'll just put Kurds first on some of them, and I'll put Azari first on the others. Children....just act your age!Khosrow II 21:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: These users who are fighting over it wont accept that, so i just made 2 of the links starting with kurd, and the other 2 links starting with Azari.Khosrow II 22:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silly revert war 

message: Please do not insert POV and OR in the article. Also, saying that Kurds are rich because they are active in illegal smuggling is kind of racist.Hajji Piruz 23:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anon

message: Urmíe can hardly have a population of 90% Azeri, I mean come on this can't be serious. We just don't know how many percent are azeris, kurds or christian but 90% azeri is just ridiculous.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.211.101.249 (talk) 23:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  90%!!!??? 

message: There is an association in the United States that is called the University Risk Management and Insurance Association or URMIA for short.  Is it possible to get a link to URMIA from the Urmia page so that should anyone look us up using URMIA, there will at least be a link to our page?  URMIA will do the same I'm sure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Birtanish (talk • contribs) 17:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urmia vs URMIA 

message: My mother and father were Assyrians. My mother's village was Urmia. They told us they fled from invading Kurds and were married quickly before saying a final farewell to my mom's dad and my father's mother, became refugees traveling on foot and horseback. The Catholics helped them. Eventually they boarded a ship in  India, traveled to (I think) Japan, to Angel Island in San Francisco, CA. and settled in the Central Valley of California, USA.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.123.214 (talk) 17:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assyrian 

message: The second part of the following claim (about the Russian author) in the text of the article is to be doubted:
The "Provincial Geographical Dictionary of Iran" (Teheran, 2001).[9] provides a figure of 85.7% for the Azeris and 10.5% for the Kurds in the city today. Allegedly a Russian author would have called these findings "ludicrous".[10]
10.^ S.I. Bruk, Narody Peredney Azii (1960); S.I. Bruk, and V. S. Apenchenko, Atlas Narodov Mira (Moscow: Academy of Science, 1964); A. Gabriel, Religionsgeographie von Persien (Vienna, 1971).
The claim cites reference 10 as its sources, but the 3 books listed are 40 to 50 years out of date; there is no way this "Russian author" (which is actually cited as 3 different people) could call a 2001 study of the region "ludicrous" in a book from 50 years ago. I'm petitioning someone with the appropriate priviliges to remove it.
This claim is also out of place:
There are claims by Kurdish nationalists that there would be no trustworthy statistics on the ethnic composition of the city or "all that is available are just estimates, and often not so educated."[13]13.^ http://looklex.com/e.o/orumiyeh.htm
There is nothing listed in reference 13 that would imply this. This claim seems to be fabricated and a reference cited in order to legitimize it.
Also, reference 11 (columbia online encyclopedia) is not yet linked but can be linked to as:
http://www.questia.com/library/encyclopedia/urmia.jsp  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lardman64 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Couple of Suggestions 

message: In history section it is claimed that " Eventually the city was reportedly sacked and destroyed by the Seljuk Turks in 1184." I find this assertion highly questionable. Because Seljuk Empire which was once master of Urmia was in ruins by 1184. An expert may clarify the issue. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sacked by Seljuks ? in 1184 ? 

message: Hello!
I would just like to comment about the discussion about Urmia's Kurdish/Turkish/Chritian population. I agree that the majority of Urmia's population might be Turks (azeri), as mentioned in an article before, and of course and there are also Kurds and Christians there live side by side in a peaceful place. But one thing that makes me to think was that the majority of West Azebajiajn province seems to be Kurds, refering to the existence of The Republic of Mahabad 1945, were that place belonged to the Kurdistani Republic of Mahabaa, although there was another Azebaijani Republic in Tabriz at that time that had agreed to the Kurdistani republic Of Mahabad that Urmia will belong to them, with all human and cultural respect to the Azeris and Chritians, just the history mentioning of course. And of course Urmia is the city of brotherhood of Azeri, Kurds and Christians. And there was also deportion of Kurds by the irani goverment some 50 years ago, buting some million Kurds i the Khorasan province north of the persian city of Mashhad, and most of that Kurds were from the Urmia are.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.151.43.53 (talk) 10:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Urmia's Ethnic groups 

message: first of all, I think both Turks and Kurds should accept each other as their neighbor/friend/citizen/... and this should be the base of any helpful discussion. any other assumption will be nonsense and I think won't lead to an helpful discussion.
As a foreign spectator (which may not completely foreign but I'll try to be unbiased here however I'm a Kurd...) and may not with in depth spectrum of the subject, I can say something that in 70% of the cases two parts doesn't pay attention to the fact that
you/we should accept some facts which one of the very primitive is the existence of both ppl/culture/language in the region. and second the modern (or even post-modern) way of thinking among men. We're living in totally different era, (just take glance to Europe or North America as an example...)      
people usually couldn't reach a compromise over mostly dialectic and usually fallacious discussions and reasonings. and each just express his/her thoughts without any burnish or let to be polished by some criticism. isolate mono-logs with their one-sided and totally biased followers....
* the fact is  usually the truth is something mix, many sided, and maybe always vague. don't expect any clear and deterministic resolution for such things. and won't believe any final solution or reason. let your mind open to changes
* our history, as the people of middle east, are much complicated and disputed than any other region. there is many reason and as previous fact, prone to controversy. but I believe if you look more precisely to the way of thinking/governing/communicate in the region you will find "the Pattern"!. look at our history!!!!! {Turks,Kurds,Iran,...} there is more than 10 versions of them. you can not neither prove  nor reject them totally {actually because it just use a part of a reality for its justifications}. I think this is not the matter of truth to choose one of your version as logical, desired, or any other thing; actually it's the way of your thinking/philosophy and actually your taste of politics which determine the historical version that would be desirable. being Religious, Nationalist, Liberal, Pro-West, Pro-Iran/Turk/Azeri/Kurd/Persian,..., or belonging to educated, bazaar,  non-educated, villagers, reach, poor,... all are the actual (and usually psychological) roots of the way how one person arrange his/her justifications {don't be sure about reasons :D}.
* according the previous fact We (especially our intellectuales and historian} have not seat and talk about these things to make it  more clear, yet. every group are just developing their ideas and if you pay more attention you can't find any long-term academic conversation about these subjects. this is not just about Turks/Persion/Kurds/Arminians/.... this is common in may other aspects of our life. I just seeing contentions. there is no talk {especially in the contemporary meaning}. 
* the fact is that the Kurds should admit the Turkish/Azerbaijani/Azeri {whatever you like upon your political taste :D} spirits of many cities of the province, especially the Urmia. this shows the Turkish majority of the city. and this is why many Kurds in the city speaks Turkish. this is because they're naturally adopting themselves to the conditions {and turks should be welcome to this}.
Pay attention that this is independent of the Past or history. whatever the history be this city is mainly Turkish city.
* another fact is Urmia fate, history, and reality is convolved with existence of their  minorities especially the Kurds. many friend or citizen from this side should accept the reality that Kurds are exist. and they can't draw wall or any other separation or barrier to this. there is many villages around the city which had Kurdish inhabitants and now they're part of the city. I think we should accept the fact that Urmia has been place on or clearly close the demographic borders.  fortunately Urmia has been well documented in the past and if you be fair, I'm sure you (both kurd and turks) will find the track of each other around.
* It's non-sense to "Just" judge the history based on the language and especially "The names". It's is a very common fallacy that you just judge on part of the truth. As far as I read history of this region you have all beautiful ingredients of this mosaics. I don't want to talk about the exact borders which I don't know but to me it's very clear that this region {in the scale of W.Azerbaijan province} you can find all these ingredients at least for 1000 year co-existance. "So there is long history of co-existence" . neither Kurds nor Turks can deny this existence. btw, pay attention to more global point of view, you must consider the neighboring demography of Turkey, Kurdistan, Azerbaijan, E.Azerbaijan and Armenia. you can't think of west Azerbaijan as something demographically isolated from its neighbors. I think this has been missed in many claims. It's funny to me to isolate the region and actually provide some justification {usually due to racism}.
another thing is the battle of names. there are many alternative names for cities in any language {don't make justification, plz}, but you can't just judge over these fact. actually the name separately can not be the base for preferring or making a conclusion in history e.g. the name of Tabriz isn't turkish but their people are. or the name of Kermanshah (my hometown) was being called qarra-may-seen {a turkish name} but there is no historian to claim Turkish identity of the city. also there is a river in the city very much alike "Shahr-Chay" which is called "Qarra-Soo" {another Turkish name}....and blah blah ....
* another fact is "Past is Past", we have passed the age of tribal wars, and tribal identity {we're as a 3rd world nation may not  :D}. I don't talk about Iran,... I just saying that we shouldn't see each other in "Tribal Point of View". I'm ok with controversy about different languages and identities in Iran, and I'm not advocating the central theory of defining iran. I don't talk about that, I just want to emphasize on humanity. and have more humanistic point of view when we talk to each other. " Past is Past" to me means whatever the history was we should pay attention to this fact that we're living in new era which give every human being (and actually living being) its principal rights which are, freedom and dignity. I just want to take your attention more to the other aspect of this co-existence. See European Union I mean that {at least in humanity point of view}. this is because "Past is Past". Nationalism, Racism, Tribalism, and any other form of Fascism (e.g ^_^)... will have a serious effect on our society. keep in mind that we can't take "Culture" from these. There is need to talk about this issues, but there is the necessity to understand that friendly talk is quiet possible. we just should pay more attention to ourself. Land isn't holy the holy things are people...we should take our focus to people, the ourselves.  
We'll live together, we're becoming more and more closer. I hope to have more peaceful,friendlier, and happier society then.
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S_MasterGeek  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.38.15.2 (talk) 23:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urmia 

message: guys,please calm down,i'm half-breed kurd and half-breed turk(azeri),please don't be racist,urmia is a city of love,paris of middle east,please respect each other.we should accept that majority is azzeri,but kurd are 2nd or 3rd ethnic group in the region,for me,all these thing shows the weakness of these groups,that you come to here and change thing way you imagine they are,please don't troll the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamyarg (talk • contribs) 02:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  respect each other 

message: I made some corrections to "Etymology", "Parks and Touristy Centers", "Languge", and "Ethnography" section". I also added the Kurdish pronunciation of the city name, which was discriminately omitted, since Kurdish is spoken by a significant number of the citizens and there is no rationale to disregard it.--Kak_Language 21:50, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please refrain from using assumptions "Kurdish is spoken by a significant number of the citizens". That is your assumption and opinion. This is an encyclopaedia with rules and guidelines. Wikipedia guidelines state that unless the name is pronounced similarly, there is no need to rewrite it for other local dialects. For example, Alman and German are different, then you can write both names for both languages. But Ormia, Urmia, Oourmia or Ooooormia, are all the same, thereby the national/parent language is only required. With the English article, only 2 names are required, if different, the English, and the local. Otherwise we can carry on rewrite the name 10 times for all the regional accents that exist. And as a personal note to yourself, Kurdish itself has become a language with differences, Iraqi Kurdish is totally different to Iranian Kurdish and Turkish Kurdish, I can't understand a word the Iraqi Kurds say, and always remember, Kurdish, New Persian and Azari all stem from one past, and that is Old Persian:Avesta and Sanskrit. The Kurdish language can only be traced back 300-400 years, whereas, New/Old Persian is traced upto 3000 years in all of the Caspian regions including Ormia. Stop trying to use Wikipedia as a means of making political rants. --94.195.194.144 (talk) 17:22, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

message: Please cite reliable data either from the UN or the Iranian government regarding local lingual diversities. A language is not the same as a dialect; the author demonstrates poor understanding of the English language and has produced a non-referenced opinionated political rant probably for personal political satisfaction. There are plenty of statistics out there that can be cited, all regarding the region. Please remember, Wikipedia guidelines state that if the country is a member of the UN, the countries own data must be used over tertiary sources. If the author fails to cite and provide a fair and partial non-opiniated writing regarding the local lingual demographics, the whole section will be removed or rewritten using data from the United Nations and the Iranian governments annual demographic datasheets. The Iranian languages section is a good start. --94.195.194.144 (talk) 17:22, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages section - Self Research and an Essay 

message: All Iranian passports I've seen have 'oroumieh' as english place of birth. The same goes with offical translations done through registered english translators. 
Wikipedia won't let me upload a scan of my passport for unknown reasons. But I can send photo if required
I suggest this spelling to be mentioned on top of the page  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braim (talk • contribs) 00:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Offical English Name, as appears on Iranian passports 

message: Hello:
I am trying to find out information on the Jewish Cemetery remaining in Urmia. It is my understanding since the 1950's there are no jews remaining (most left in the 1920's), but one muslim family were kind enough to become caretakers of the cemetery. A few questions.
Does anyone know the name of the cemetery?
Is there are a street address or intersection for it?
Does anyone know who the caretakers are?
Thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidYedidya (talk • contribs) 02:39, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nash Didan Jews from Urmia 

message: What about the jews that were there? א. א. אינסטלציה (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jews 

message: Please ADD this in the climate section:
Being on the downwind and rain shadow side of the Zagros mountains, its winters are relatively drier and less snowier than Hakkari's (to the west) in southeastern Turkey due to the foehn effect.Modeling the exceptional south Foehn event (Garmij) over the Alborz Mountains during the extreme forest fire of December 2005 February 2014, Natural Hazards, Abbas Mofidi, Iman Soltanzadeh,Yadollah Yousefi, Azar Zarrin, MohsenSoltani, Jafar Masoompour Samakosh,Ghasem Azizi, et al. Retrieved 27 May 2022. 106.69.133.6 (talk) 05:44, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: // Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk 23:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2022 

message: In the previous edits which got reverted, I added the name of the city in the Turkish dialects found in Turkey, because I found it noteworthy. The article I used as source is mainly about a type of mulberry found in the region of Maraş, Gaziantep, Adıyaman called "Urmu tutu" and where it actually comes from. Relevance is not clearly stated in Wikipedia policies as far as I know and is left to users to determine. I am not adding the name of the city used by a tribe from Papua and New Guinea but from a community that interacted with the city at least through trade and is just a few kilometers away. I'm also willing to reframe this information, so that the information is combined with the prevalence of mulberries in the region and its economic aspect. Otherwise, the page will be prevented from getting expanded. Ayıntaplı (talk) 21:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're asking to add an Anatolian Turkish transliteration, a language which never had nor has official status in Iran, nor ever had a historic presence in Iran, just because its mulberries (!) are famous in Turkey. Not in Iran... in Turkey (!). Its completely WP:UNDUE. So no, we're not doing it. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I will not argue further about its addition, but your style appears offensive to me, which I don't like. Could you please take a look at the talk page of the Iranian Azerbaijanis, because I believe there are more major aspects to be considered like the sources not being truthfully reflected? Thank you. Ayıntaplı (talk) 15:27, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The variant of the name of the city in Anatolian Turkish 

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message: Urmia
اورمو یا اورمیه
Is absolutely and in nature is a turkic city. The so-called "Orumiyeh" is totally against historical heritage and ancient scholars which devotes this city to turks! 83.120.39.101 (talk) 18:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 18:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2024