Talk:Politics of Greece

message: Well after signing those policies with IMF, having German observer, being threatened for many things if political parties wont cooperate with what "troika" says, having for president someone who Greeks never voted for and finally currently being told that it is better not to go for elections but better decide for a technocrat government without elections isn't this the definition of a puppet state? Mostly Europe and specifically some high european political and economics figures deal too much with internal affairs of another state. What do you think? 
P.S. Not even  mentioning many laws that are clearly in opposition with the Constitution of Greece just for the sake of the so called "help" .   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.41.19 (talk) 02:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Greece is a Puppet State

message: In the political parties and leaders, the New Democracy party leader is listed as Konstantinos Karamanlis. Is he Costas Karamanlis, the current prime minister or his father? And also, in the politican leaders list, there is a Costas Karamanlis, but above in the text he appears as Costas Caramanlis. I don't know which one is the correct or more widespread transliteration but for consistency, shouldn't both be spelled the same?--leandros 09:21, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the late Konstantinos Karamanlis was the uncle of the current Prime Minister of Greece, not the father. Plus, both Konstantinos and Constantinos is popular in use, but it's definately Karamanlis with a K, as in KDE. During the last EU Summit meeting, every european channel had its own spelling of his name. But here's what I'll do: I'll go ahead and change all the Cs in the surname and the first name into Ks, in order to have Konsistancy ;) . Anybody asks, tell them the Cookie Monster ate'em --Project2501a 13:30, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Done -- Project2501a 13:55, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Caramanlis? Karamanlis? Konstantinos?

message: Greece, this modern country, in the EU and supposedly Democratic, still doesn't have a separation of Church and State and declares that it only has a 2% minority...what a laugh! -  unsigned comment by 68.162.126.118
:Well, obviously, we don't know how to accomplish such a feat. why don't you come over and help us? Project2501a 20:46, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: I rewrited the section "Judicial Branch", because it lacked any real analysis and because even the two short propositions, which existed, were faulse. The names of the courts were wrong, the competence was wrong, the coise of the members was wrong (the Greek President has nothing to do with the choice of the members of the Supreme Courts). I hope that my intervention is going to be received with applause. Respectively, I changed the names of the Supreme COurts in the "politics-politics portal" and I added the Court of Cassation and the Chamber of Accounts, which were not referred, as they should.
Yannismarou 21:10, the 25th of March 2006 (UTC)
--If your re-writing of that section is anything like the above post, you need to stay away from Wikipedia's English version!!  Errors:  rewrote, not rewrited / false, not faulse / choice, not coise /.  Jeez... it's TERRIBLE.  Leave the English to the experts, mmmkay??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.69.81.2 (talk) 21:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Judicial Branch

message: The fact that you do not agree with my edit, it does not mean that you have the right to remove it. 
My edit does not violate the NPOV, since I expose facts, and I do not understand who gave you the right to delete what I wrote (nobody, of course!). 
On the other hand, your edit is more closely to a NPOV violation, but I didn't delete it (I respected you; something that you didn't, my friend!)!
Hence, I'll restore my edit and do not make the same mistake to delete it, because you cannot imagine how stubborn I am! 
Now, I do not care about your insults, but, If you really want to know who I am, go to my userpage and learn about me. 
Finally, I believe that your comments on military service (and the conscription) are inaccurate, totally POV, inappropriate for Wikipedia or any other encyclopedias (encyclopedias are not forums!) and inappropriate for the country you needlessly and unwarily assail. I can explain the reasons I believe all these things, but I'm sure that you don't care and you won't understand.
Just make one thing: Go to articles in Wikipedia concerning any other country and, if you find any slandering or offensive comments against these countries like yours against Greece, then come and tell me. 
Ah! And the Greek National Bank didn't buy the 45% of the Turkish National Bank, but the 46% of the "Finansbank", ranked just 8th in Turkey (see Economist [April 8th-14th, page 76, Turkish Banks by assets]). 
And if you want to see tension, don't talk to me about the Finansbank! Just go to Imia for fishing!
--Yannismarou 11:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (or Project2501a's creative imagination!) 

message: :> since I expose facts,
Single-sided, nationalistic, apologetic, facts?
:>  who gave you the right to delete what I wrote 
The wiki did.
:> Hence, I'll restore my edit and do not make the same mistake to delete it, because you cannot imagine how stubborn I am!
Ooh, threat?
:> I do not care about your insults,
Insults? what insults? 
:> I believe that your comments on military service (and the conscription) are inaccurate, totally POV, inappropriate for Wikipedia or any other encyclopedias 
Please! :D go ahead and prove me wrong :D (ΚΑΝΕΝΑΣ ΠΟΙΟ ΠΑΛΙΟΣ ΡΕ;) I'm just mentioning the facts. It's not my fault the facts don't reflect well on Greece. What would you rather have me do? use an επικοινωνιακό κόλπο (translation: Public relations stunt) in order to make the Greek goverment look good? 
:> This user is a jurist and a postgraduate of Public Administration.
OMG! Ένας κρατικοδίαιτος καρεκλοκένταυρος και μελλοντικός βολευτής!!!!!!!1 Μήπως είσαι και σΠΑΣΟΚ; Μήπως και έχεις και το Κυριάκο Μιτσοτάκη βύζμα; Τι άλλο θα δούμε; Τον Δήμο Βερήκιο να κάνει το παπαγαλάκι στη Wikipedia; (Translation: YAY! yet another goverment-fed employee and future-senator-hopeful! Should I cheer for your success, Oh future Ceasar? )
:> and inappropriate for the country you needlessly and unwarily assail.
Facts are never innapropriate. Shame is brought upon Greece by it's own doings :) It's not my fault I lost 5 line brothers in the Manitsa incident :) Nor that the Sworn-in Deposition conducted by General Karavas was later overturned by the District Attorney. It's not my fault the DA changed the cause of death from "negligence from fault of conscriptees" to Capital Manslaughter. It's not my fault the DA charged the Base Commander and CO on duty with Grand Manslaughter and the Greek Power Company with Accomplice to Murder. :) It's not my fault I lost 2 friends in the C-130 crash 10 years ago. It's not my fault that Hummer jeep was stollen from one of the "best guarded" Marine camp in the country by a convicted fellon nonetheless, nor that that the 6th railroad accident within a span of 6 months happened today. It's not my fault Greece will spend 22 billion euros in the next ten years, (higher than any other country in the mediteranian or its neighbouring countries) in arms purchasing in an attempt to overspend Turkey, while the basic wage has been lingering at 450 euros for 6 years now. It's not my fault industrial workers will recieve 10% increase in their wages ever the next 3 years, while inflation is over 6% each year. It's not my fault that the president of GSEE (Greek Syndicate of Industrial Workers, nothing to do with the IWW), Polizogopoulos is a sellout and that he was beaten up, though it is my personal oponion he deserves to be sent to the hospital one more time. It's not my fault that 5 pimps govern Greece. It's not my fault 45% of the GPD is used for the salaries of goverment employees. It's not my fault that there are over 20 deaths in the Corinth-Patras highway each 6 months. It's not my fault that Christodoulos is a Junta sympathiser.
It's not my fault i'll be paying for the 1980s "Buy of the Century" and the Koskotas scandal for the next 50+ years. (Σήκω Αντρέα για να δείς αν τα τρών καλά τα δις!). It's not my fault Social Security is defunct and broke ever since 1983 and that any funds left, were used in the Greek stock market scandal. It's not my fault that there's a good chance Greek economy might go belly up in 30 years, and sure as hell i don't wanna pay the sins of some Napoleons or some Squealer of Mass Media baron, who uses the media to his own advantage? 
Bad management and bad "leadership" on behalf of each and every ruling Greek Goverment for the past 40 years is.
George Kouris vs Kontominas anyone? Celebrity Deathmatch! 
I've been hearing that "it's the circumstances!" excuse for 30 years now: it's never in our hand to change things, it's always the circumstances. it's the americans, it's the british, the ethiopians, damn it, the Maori! Those damn Maori, especially, they are conspiring against us, cuz they hate us and our culture! 
I'm not attacking any country. No, let me rephrase that. I am attaching Greece. But only as much as Nikos Dimou was and still is. Does that make me anti-Greek? Critisising my own country? The political climate in my own country. No-one was a prophet in their own land: The unfortune of being Greek. 
Greece, much like Kronos, is eating her own children. I'm tired of playing Estragon. I'm tired of playing the nice guy. My Greek shoulders can bare no weight no more cuz they snapped in two. I'm tired of House Negroes, Negro. 
So, let me guess, you gonna go along with the usual show-and-tell show and tell me that if i don't like how things are in Greece, i should get the hell out?
:> I can explain the reasons I believe all these things, but I'm sure that you don't care and you won't understand.
Please, do go ahead. We'll both put up our degrees: Your degree in public administration (*cough*figurehead*cough), vs my degrees in Computer Science and Applied Mathematics, with minors in Computer Engineering, History and Political Science.
:> And the Greek National Bank didn't buy the 45% of the Turkish National Bank, but the 46% of the "Finansbank",
OOOH, my bad, my apologies, it's not the 1st largest bank of turkey that the Greek National bank saved from financial peril, it's the 8th. my sincere apologies.
:> Just go to Imia for fishing!
I did. It's a freaking goat island. It was never about the island. It's all about the oil in the bottom of the Aegian Sea. So, please, stop your flagwaving.
Where's the war? who the heck is shooting at us? Ah, well! Launch missiles! Kill'em all! (But i'm le tired :D )
Project2501a | ΑΝΥΠΟΤΑΞΙΑ, ΑΠΑΛΛΑΓΗ, Ι-5 21:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Yannismarou, that paragraph is POV and does not present any citations, especially for the "inescapable reality" bit. bogdan 21:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which way to the Front? 

message: Most recent edits are pure acts of vandalism.  Is there a way to protect the article somehow? Pel thal (talk) 13:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: """
The Greek Orthodox Church is under the protection of the State, which pays the clergy's salaries, and Orthodox Christianity is the "'prevailing" religion of Greece according to the Constitution. The Greek Orthodox Church is self-governing but under the spiritual guidance of the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople. Freedom of religious beliefs is guaranteed by the Constitution, but "proselytism" is officially illegal. 
"""
I do not understand the quotes on prevailing and proselytism. Can someone elaborate? The word prevailing shows up as-is in the Hellenic Carta Magna, thus, no need of quotes in there. Then, again, under Hellenic law, proselytism is illegal with severe punishment. Why the quotes in there again?
188.77.168.210 (talk) 20:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the use of quotes? This is the truth... 

message: The officials colors of ΣΥ.ΡΙΖ.Α. (Coalition of the Radical Left) are red, green and purple (sometimes pink, also). You cannot color them with yellow. --Το αλλήθωρο οπόσουμ (talk) 19:51, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official colors 

message: This article appears to be mainly about the government and constitution of Greece rather than its politics, as indicated by the introduction 'The politics of Greece takes place in ....'. For example, there is no list of political parties.
Clivemacd (talk) 21:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Government not Politics 

message: I suggest we delete the last paragraph of section "Maintaining the support of parliament" - 'tis out of date and there is no other section that requires this kind of updatedness. It could just refer to the separate article "Cabinet of Greece".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnulat (talk • contribs) 14:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article update