Talk:2005 Atlantic hurricane season/Archive 14

message: I fully agree with HurricaneHink that the NHC/HPC external links are not needed for all storms.  This just clutters the article.  A single link at the bottom links to the entire archive which provides easy links to all storm archives. Jdorje 06:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: True, true. --Golbez 07:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, sorry if I offended anyone when I did that, but it does clutter the article. On the other hand, it helps the non-familiar user to find more info without going all the way to the bottom. Convience vs. Being Cluttered. It's a tough call that should be discussed. Hurricanehink 15:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, let's consider both sides here. We need to run down some pros and cons. Honestly do they really clutter the page up that much? They're only about two lines apiece. This is what we've always done regarding the storms. On the other hand, having just one link to the whole archive at the bottom of the page reduces redundancy considerably. Tough call, but I'm leaning toward keeping it the way it is. This page is supposed to be sort of like a 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Season for Dummies. It shouldn't be just convenient for us hurricane freaks. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 17:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NHC/HPC external links 

message: A couple of times I've added something about what might happen if a greek letter storm causes enough damage to be retired. Someone seems to object to any exploration of this point and keeps taking it out. My last edit was "There is no precedent for a storm named with a Greek Letter causing enough damage to justify retirement; how this situation would be handled is unknown.". What's the problem with a neutral statement like that? It is not speculative (although I also don't see why we can't make an educated guess about what would happen as long as it's clear it's a guess and not factual) 203.214.7.183 14:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not me reverting your edits, but I think you should provide a source for that. I definitely recall seeing an article that says they would skip over that letter in subsequent seasons, but I was never able to find that article again.  --AySz88^-^ 19:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

text: The tropical cyclone page says: If a Greek letter is retired, it is not replaced. For example, if "Alpha" is retired after any season, the 22nd storm in a future year would be "Beta". See List of notable tropical cyclones for lists of retired names.200.74.189.61 20:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it does.  However, it does not cite a source for it. Ajm81 20:18, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Letter name retirement 

message: The pictures in the Storms section is a bit way too much.  The Hurricane Phillipe and Hurricane Beta part is really messed up.  I suggest we have either
* Only the actual hurricane picture
or
* Only the path of the hurricane.
But for storms that don't have actual pictures, then the path should be shown.
I'd prefer only the actual picture.  The section is way too crowded.  I'm sure that someone who would like to read the whole "Storms" section would think the section is too crowded.
Just a suggestion... -Tcwd (talk) 01:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I see this as a formatting issue.  However it seems to vary from browser to browser.  In my browser for instance the beta part looks fine (see screenshot).  For storms with separate articles, the pictures are generally (or should be) inlcluded in the article already so only one picture is needed.  And BTW, nobody will ever read the whole "Storms" section (for this reason the article will never be a featured article). Jdorje 01:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It should work on all browsers. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 15:06, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely.  And if only I knew why it didn't work on your browser, I'm sure it could be fixed... Jdorje 18:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My browser is fine. Everything is more or less well aligned. The problem I have with them is that there are just too many pictures. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 22:49, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, I'm also using Firefox.  But hmm, I just realized, that if i resize my screen resolution to 1024x768 (web developer extension), it works fine.  I guess it's because my resolution is too high.  Still, I believe this formatting problem should be fixed.  I don't know how though, I'm don't really know how to use these Wikipedia codes correclty.  Anyways, My resolution is 1280x1024.  Still, regardless of whether or not the alignment is correct, I still believe there are far too many pictures. -Tcwd (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: O.K. We've heard your views on the TOC, now to vote for a idea. I've selected 4 ideas in the section "Modified TOC". Vote for the one that you think looks appealing to you. The 4 ideas are:
#Cuivienen's Version
#Rattleman's Version
#AySz88's Version
#Four Column Idea (proposed by EMS)
The closing time is 0900 UTC, tommorow, 23th of September 2005. By the way, i'm now going to create myself an account. Reason being is that i've put in a suitable amount of ideas (including the button bar) and it is worth it. So you'll be seeing me more often around Wikipedia! ---- 1043 UTC
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.26.100.43 (talk • contribs) 10:43, November 22, 2005 (UTC).
:I assume this is only to concentrate your efforts to replace the ToC, rather than picking the replacement. Otherwise this vote is worthless. --Golbez 15:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia isn't a democracy; we try for consensus rather than a majority or a plurality vote.  We're still bargaining things out, so it's probably too early to vote for any single idea right now.  --AySz88^-^ 19:04, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would have reverted out this section yesterday if not for th pedia going down. Agreed, WP:NOT a democracy. No vote should be taken, get consensus instead. NSLE (讨论+extra) 00:15, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Please sign your posts on talk pages with ~~~~, and no, we'll archive sectionsof this talk page soon. NSLE (讨论+extra) 00:25, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOC Vote