Talk:Cosmic ordering

message: :It would appear that this movement sprang from nowhere but this is untrue. It has a long history in Christianity with ministers such as Reverend Ike and Kenneth Copeland and Bob Tilton to name but a few. Perhaps the most zany was Reverend Ike's "You can't lose with the stuff I use" and "Mind power is green power and green power is money getting power". He told his 'flock' to imagine what they wanted and then to commit those ideas to paper. It would appear as if Noel is either ignorant of the history of this concept, or he is pushing his own version. Napoleon Hill was perhaps the originator of the non-Christian version with his book "Think and Grow Rich" first published in 1937 during the Great Depression. The current article needs a total rewrite. 80.192.68.143 (talk) 19:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cosmic ordering is a New Age version of 1937 Napoleon Hill, then Reverend Ike and others

message: :What on Earth is this?  Is this an ad, part of a swiped article, or what?  What is it doing here?
:Septegram 15:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Holy cow, this article stinks!  Beerathon 10:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What on Earth is this?

message: On the 19th December 2006 a section was added entitled 'Criticisms of Cosmic Ordering.' Having read the section it's in urgent need of editing or removal. Firstly because original opinion is given, and secondly because cosmic ordering is criticised for being unscientific - despite the article listing it as a belief system and NOT a science.
In the article cosmic ordering is criticised for being a pseudoscience (listed in wikipedia as being a body of knowledge, methodology, belief, or practice that claims to be scientific but does not follow the scientific method.) The author has not listed any sources that list who has may have made scientific claims about it. However there have been no claims that cosmic ordering is a science, either by those who believe in it, or by those who have spoken about their faith.  More commonly it is compared to a religious belief. 
The person who has written the article has made original and speculative comment which should be removed. To say that believers in cosmic ordering only remember when they have had 'a wish come true' is fair comment, but the same could also be said of believers of a religious faith who remember when 'their prayers have been answered', as oppossed to when they haven't. With editing this could be made suitable.
Relevant criticisms should of course be made, but the author has written with a bias against the subject, and given 'his' subjective opinion when a neutral viewpoint is appropriate. 
So the comparisons to a pseudoscience should be removed because there have been no claims that it is a science, it is a belief system/faith. Also the author's speculative opinions should be removed completely. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr Pumblechook (talk • contribs) 01:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The need to edit 'Criticisms of Cosmic Ordering'

message: The symbols on Noel Edmonds hand were a joke, NOT to do with Cosmic Ordering - as stated in the Deal Or No Deal article
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  Whilst presenting the British version of the game show Deal or No Deal he is regularly seen to have different symbols drawn over his right hand. He has revealed that this is due to his belief in Cosmic Ordering.
Bilky asko 09:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deal or no Deal

message: Whilst presenting the British version of the game show Deal or No Deal he is regularly seen to have different symbols drawn over his right hand. He has revealed that this is due to his belief in Cosmic Ordering.
Bilky asko 09:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Text removed

message: Having written the majority of the original Wikipedia article on Cosmic Ordering I am surprised by what I have found here. An editor who is opposed to New Age beliefs has removed most of the article. Cosmic Ordering is a belief system. Wikipedia has no duty to preach that Cosmic Ordering is true or not, however it should give an explanation of what it is. The beliefs and their context have been removed because an author disagrees with them. This is like taking the page on 'The Secret' or 'The Law of Attraction' and removing the theory because an editor disagrees with it! This is an abuse of Wikipedia and weakens it.  I will update this soon in accordance with Wiki guidelines soon.
Also. I have seen that the key texts which define Cosmic Ordering beliefs have been removed. This is ridiculous! Cosmic Ordering was first explained by certain books. Obviously Wikipedia shouldn't be abused by spam. Where these 'key' authors have released multiple products, I think that only one book should be listed to minimise spam. I have returned a truncated Cosmic Ordering bibliography.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Pumblechook (talk • contribs) 15:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Opinions used to edit Cosmic Ordering Article

message: Any particular reason why this phrase needs to be capitalised? Is it a trademark? If not, the article should be moved to cosmic ordering and the spelling changed accordingly throughout. — Paul G (talk) 15:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I performed the page move to the 'Cosmic ordering' title. Anyone who has some time is welcome to fix the capitalization on the links to this page from other articles. EdJohnston (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: Is this related to Spaceology's Spacestar Ordering?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.58.24.223 (talk) 21:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spacestar Ordering