Talk:Enzo Ferrari

message: I'm not really a tifosi but this article is not really NPOV.
Ericd 20:10 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)
:What is it, specifically, that you find NPOV? I did a bunch of copyediting. I find that the article is a little too much about Ferrari SpA, and not about Enzo. -- Mikeblas 03:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: "It was not until after World War II that Ferrari sought to shed his fascist reputation and make cars bearing his name, founding today's Ferrari S.p.A. in 1947."
Maybe but the agreement with Alfa forbidden him to build a car bearing his name for ten years. Ericd 21:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrari 

message: Who the heck took down the picture of Enzo?  Somebody, put it back up!  I would if I could find it!  --AyrtonSenna 05:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Why is there no mention of Enzo's wife, the mother of Dino, and his mistress, Ms Lardi, and his (then) illegitimate son Piero? 86.87.218.135 (talk) 09:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was wondering the same thing.  This article says "his first son Dino" and the article about Dino says "EF's only legitimate son." Labodeng (talk) 17:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enzo's wife and mistress 

message: I deleted this:
:"The first open-wheeled race was in Turin in 1948 and the first victory came later in the year in Lago di Garda. Ferrari has participated in the Formula One World Championship since its introduction in 1950 but the company's first victory was not until the British Grand Prix of 1951. The first championship came in 1952–53, when the Formula One season was raced with Formula Two cars. The company also sold production sports cars in order to finance the racing endeavours not only in Grand Prix but also in events such as the Mille Miglia and Le Mans. Indeed many of the firm's greatest victories came at Le Mans (14 victories, including six in a row 1960–65) rather than in Grand Prix. Certainly the company was more involved there than in Formula One during the 1950s and 1960s despite the successes of Juan-Manuel Fangio (1956), Mike Hawthorn (1958), Phil Hill (1961), and John Surtees (1964).
:"In the 1960s the problems of reduced demand and inadequate financing forced Ferrari to allow Fiat to take a stake in the company. Ferrari had offered Ford the opportunity to buy the firm in 1963 for US$18 million but, late in negotiations, Ferrari withdrew. This decision triggered Ford's decision to launch a serious European sports car racing program, which resulted in the Ford GT40. Ferrari became joint-stock company, and Fiat took a small share in 1965, in 1969 increasing their holding to 50%. (In 1988, Fiat's holding was increased to 90%.)"
:"The input of Fiat took some time to have effect.  It was not until 1975 with Niki Lauda that the firm won any championships — the skill of the driver and the ability of the engine overcoming the deficiencies of the chassis and aerodynamics. After those successes and the promise of Jody Scheckter title in 1979, the company's Formula One championship hopes fell into the doldrums.  1982 opened with a strong car, the 126C2, world-class drivers, and promising results in the early races.
:"However, Gilles Villeneuve was killed in the 126C2 in May, and teammate Didier Pironi had his career cut short in a violent end over end flip on the misty back straight at Hockenheim in August.  Pironi was leading the driver's championship at the time; he would lose the lead as he sat out the remaining races.  The team would not see championship glory again during Ferrari's lifetime. Michael Schumacher would end Ferrari's 21-year drought for a world title in 2000. Ferrari is currently a dominant team in F1. It has won at least one race a season since 1995."
as irrelevant to Enzo. It's about the company, not him.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  02:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of spec 

message: Hello all,
What is this about the birth date of Enzo Ferrari to be the 18 and recorded 2 days later, the 20. It isn't what his birth certificate online from Modena says. His birth was recorded February 24th (ventiquattro di febbraio = 24 February) and he was born the 20 (venti del corrente mese = 20 of this current month). I think the historians who checked all the official documents forgot to check the most important document, his birth certificate no 287 here -> http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Modena/Stato+civile+italiano/Modena/Nati/1898/Parte+1/005117536_00519.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=0 You can click on the certificate to enlarge it and you can move the image also to see better. For me, "Enzo Anselmo Giuseppe Maria Ferrari" (his birth name) was born February 20, 1898, period. Sincerely. --Danielvis08 (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Birth date 

message: Is it known when they resettled from Ferrara? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 14:45, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrara. 

message: On October 13th, 2018, at a question-and-answer session promoting his 2018 book, "Enzo Ferrari: Power, Politics, and the Making of an Automotive Empire," author and biographer Luca Dal Monte stated that the tale of the late registration of Ferrari's birth record being delayed by a snowstorm was not accurate, although Ferrari himself helped spread the story.  Del Monte did research in Italy and found microfiche records of 1898 newspapers that had no record of snow in and around Modena in February around the time of Ferrari's birth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CLSwiki (talk • contribs) 05:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ferrari uses the 18th February date as his birthday date: Enzo's dream (ferrari.com). In my mind, it's a more trustworthy source. Czesuaw (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There appears to be some edit warring going on about this date. As of right now it's saying 18th ++Lar: t/c 09:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Birth Date (Again) 

message: https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKp5Lc5mLgSFQCy9QEiJxq19L-q4HrZGmx3dyFVmoqS5D4nQO5a0OJtwksxkW_Sqa0UR5kM8kn2lQNZtvD04u2wDqyXeJw&feature=emb_logo&v=quN3NRr96LY  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.85.148 (talk) 14:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrari 7X GTO Vision 

message: There is scant information of Enzo's youth years and his owning of both a 4 cylinder Henderson and FN motorcycles. One site suggests he campaigned (raced) these but there are no details such as his age or exactly when in relation to his 5 October 1919 commencement of car racing. Can someone clarify the details to see if he was a motorcycle racer before a car racer!PeterShannon (talk) 20:49, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enzo's youth and campaigning Henderson and FN 4 cylinder motorcycles 

message: It seems disingenuous that this article does not at all mention his work for the fascists during world war 2. This should definitely be included in the article. I'm not asking anyone to villainize him, but there should definitely be a section on it. Science Is My Life (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  World War II