Talk:Fraserburgh

message: Fraserburgh holds the UK record for the highest gust of wind at a low-level (ie non-mountain) site: 123 knots on 13 Feb 1989. (Source: Met Office) 86.132.137.170 02:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: There is absolutely no place in this article for a huge section on drugs. It is unfounded that the town is worse than other towns of the same size for drugs, and the links provided link to speculation. Please stop vandalising this page. Nessymonster (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing properly sourced material without good reason is vandalism. It is perfectly valid that the drugs problems of the town should be mentioned even though some people would prefer that such things be ignored. To claim that "it is unfounded that the town is worse than other towns of the same size for drugs" is nothing more than a point of view - if you have sources to back up that statement, add it to the article rather than merely deleting information you don't like. By the way, if you want Fraserburgh to appear in a good light, can I suggest the way to do this is by improving the article by adding material.  I will now replace the deleted, properly sourced material that you removed. 86.157.167.173 (talk) 11:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second 86.157.167.173's comment. Since a book was mentioned that doesn't exist, the reference to the book can be deleted. However, removing a section that was sourced to verifiable sources is not the solution to the problem. Nor is engaging in edit wars. Antivenin (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree completely. There is no difference between Fraserburgh and other towns with regards to drugs. For the Fraserburgh article to have a huge section on being bad for drugs, then I would expect proper links with some figures which compare it to other towns/cities. The sources that you mentioned earlier are not proper sources, as the same thing could be pulled up about any town in the country.Nessymonster (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We obviously need some very good references, with official statistics. Until we have those, I don't actively support inclusion or withdrawal. However I will go and see what references I can find, and I think that's well worth doing, because – like it or not – the town has sadly got a bad reputation in the local area. (I spend a fair amount of time in Banffshire and I'm convinced of this.) Fuelled no doubt by local press reports which are notoriously negative and sensationalist, but nevertheless, there could be some seeds of truth and this should be checked out rather than discounted out of hand. – Kieran T (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether fair or not, there is plenty evidence that Fraserburgh has been called 'the heroin capital of Britain' - that is a verifiable fact whether people like that or not. I have never read of Peterhead, Banff, Turriff, Ellon or, further afield, Stonehaven, Montrose, Stranraer etc being described in that way. Also please get it in perspective - 'a huge section on drugs'...err, it is a little under three lines - hardly a huge section! 86.157.167.173 (talk) 16:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, Peterhead does get tarred with the same brush, but then so does Aberdeen. You're right about perspective: we all know there is much more to these towns, including the rich heritage in the fishing industry which could be discussed further. But we're not debating whether or not to put similar paragraphs in the Peterhead article, for example. Here's a more constructive thought: presumably there must be some drug education and rehabilitation programmes being run by the health service in the area. Is there anything particularly imaginative or innovative? Something positive would help to balance the discussion in the article. – Kieran T (talk) 16:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

text: To agree with Kieran T (talk), here is something positive that could be added on the issue of drugs in Fraserburgh - .  86.157.167.173 (talk) 18:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have to say that I have lived in Fraserburgh for well over 20 years, and never met anyone who uses/sells drugs. It cannot be as bad as you all make out here. 62.6.163.131 (talk) 20:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Two points - Firstly this article is not about our personal experiences. It can only be based on verifiable sources. Secondly, though irrelevant to this article, my experience is that I have known people who have died from overdoses as well as people who have been jailed for dealing (though I didn't realise they were selling the stuff until they were caught.) On the positive side, I know people who work with the Solid Rock Cafe that is doing good work to help turn drug users lives around, so it is not all doom and gloom. 86.157.167.173 (talk) 20:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are interested - a link to the Solid Rock Cafe -  86.157.167.173 (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: I led a community project in 2011 to source, copy and transcribe a full version of this book, which was  by then out of copyright. 
I've uploaded a copy to Wiki Commons as a useful source for anyone editing this article. 
Watty62 (talk) 18:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fraserburgh Past and Present by John Cranna (1914)