Talk:Midi-chlorian

message: This is a lingering issue for these endosymbionts in the Star Wars universe. An initial spelling, and few other mentions, indicate the former; most others – including the majority of canon and fanon literature in print and online – indicates the latter. The article was recently moved back to the former by a proponent, but a Wp consensus supports the latter.
===Voting===
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*Support as per Spelling discussion below. Olessi 17:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Add any additional comments
* As above and below, the move is a fait accompli; thank you everyone! E Pluribus Anthony 21:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support as per Spelling discussion below. Olessi 17:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
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* As above and below, the move is a fait accompli; thank you everyone! E Pluribus Anthony 21:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: "They are microscopic life-forms that reside within the cells of all living things and communicate with the Force. Midi-clorians comprise collective consciousness and intelligence, forming the link between everything living and the Force. They are symbionts with all other living things; that is, without them, life could not exist." Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I thought I once heard of a race in the EU that was completely disconnected from the Force, no midi-clorians. They couldn't use the Force and the Force couldn't be used agains them because of this. Unfortunately, there name escapes me, and Google isn't helping much.
masterzora
I think the race that you're speaking of is the Yuuzhan Vong. They were completely cut off from the Force, as you mentioned. I'm not sure how they managed to survive, but you should read the article on this race. Scorpionman 20:01, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no consensus. —Wknight94 (talk) 17:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: <i>All</i> living things?

message: I've read that Jedi Apprentice series or whatever its called (the one by Jude Watson about Obiwan and Qui-gon and I remembered this part where Qui-gon was captured by a scientist who wanted to figure out what made the force work. Now...was this an oversight by the author or was it that Midicholrians had not been discovered yet or were their existance intentionally withheld from the public by the Jedi order? I don't think this could be answered but perhaps this bit of info can be pointed out? Mavrickindigo 02:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  An interesting thing I thought of. 

message: Under the section "Midi-chlorians and the Chosen One", one is led to believe that Darth Plagueis was unable to keep himself alive forever ("Thus the great irony is that while the Sith can unnaturally keep others alive but not themselves, (...)"), while on the Darth Plagueis article, on the dialog quotation, Palpatine mentions Darth Plagueis "could save others from death, but not himself" due to the fact that he was killed in his sleep, not due to inability to do so.
Shouldn't this be clarified? I found it strange when I read this article at first, and looking up Darth Plagueis I found information more coherent. Otherwise, acquiring the knowledge and killing the master makes little sense to me if you cannot use this power on yourself.
Any thoughts? — IdNotFound 03:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darth Plagueis unable to live forever? 

message: I'm not sure about this statement in the first section
This idea is somewhat similar to 17th-century philosopher Gottfried Leibniz's theory of monads—infinitesimal elementary particles that exist as something of an amalgam of matter and consciousness (termed "apperception")
My reasons are
#It's original research, unless there are references showing that someone else (reliable) thinks this is true
#I don't think Midi-chlorian fit Leibniz's theory. The Jedi are clearly in communication wih the Mondas, whereas in Leibniz's theory that wouldn't be possible. 
I've tagged it with an original research tag. Does anyone have any thoughts they'd like to contribute? Monads (talk) 21:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've removed it Monads (talk) 04:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison of Midi-chlorian with Leibniz's theory of monads 

message: In Luceno's SW novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, Palpatine says that he was afraid that Anakin would die after his defeat on Mustafar and he would have to "discover a way to compel midi-chlorians to do his bidding, and bring into being one as powerful as Anakin."  It would seem that Ol' Palpy can't create life after all.  I would say that a novel outranks an unused script draft in terms of canon.  I'm not near as Bold as I should be so what does anyone else think?  Should this be stricken from the article?  Czar Baldy Bald IV (talk) 02:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anakin's Creator Palpy