Talk:Baby Face Nelson

message: Redirects: George Nelson, Lester M. Gillis, Lester Gillis, Joseph Lester Gillis
Added redirect, as another article links to Joseph Lester Gillis. --TheSock 21:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Is it true that he suffered from manic depression as portrayed in the Coen Bros. film?
:Don't take his portrayal in O Brother, Where Art Thou too literally. The Coen brothers' films are usually (especially in this case) allegorical comedies and not meant to be taken too straight. Martyn Smith 18:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Manic depression?

message: So, just how many FBI agents did Nelson end up killing? The article mentions only 2 agents, but claims he killed a record number. In fact, going by this article, Nelson killed only 3 people in his entire career. Can someone put up more information that's less sympathetic to him? CFLeon 07:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the statement, as I seriously doubt that he killed more federal agents than the 125 killed by the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77.  Nyttend (talk) 12:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Agents Killed?

message: According to the Dramatis Personae of the film it seems the Coen brothers cast the character as Baby Face Nelson himself; while not being historically accurate to the real criminal's life, it was not simply a different George Nelson who robbed banks and despised being confused with the Baby Face Nelson. Am I mistaken?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.179.25 (talk) 06:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  O Brother, Where Art Thou? 

message: There were several facts that were wrong in the article and several missing facts I felt were important and should have been included. These changes have been made, and I've also changed some of the writing styles in the article (more of a narrative style, now).
VonV (talk) 06:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Barrington Revised 

message: There is a strangely placed "George" in the first line and no further mention. Who called him George ? -- Beardo (talk) 22:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It should have been included in quotes in his name, it was what he was called by his family, much like my now-deceased uncle, John, was called "Buster" and then just "Bus" by our family. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  George 

message: I have again deleted the "killing more than a dozen law officers," statement. The NY Times article it lists as a source actually says, "Clyde Barrow and Baby Face Nelson alone murdered more than a dozen law officers."
This is a poorly worded sentence since the Barrow gang itself is credited with killing 12 law enforcement officers and Nelson killed another 3 FBI agents.  I also deleted the "enjoyed hunting law enforcement officers from a list he kept of their vehicle information" because it is not in the article and has no source.--TL36 (talk) 02:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason why the sentence itself can't be reworded and the source still used. We don't often have accessible headlines from that era available to us, and it certainly can be used. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Then word it in a way that makes it read to your satisfaction. However, there is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Fix how it reads instead of just deleting it. Meanwhile, the addition you made was reverted for a couple reasons. You put in the article, and also stated here, that Nelson killed three FBI agents, but you didn't give a source for that and used what is referred to as weasel wording by saying it was written but didn't show who did that. The New York Times article does not say who killed the FBI agent at Little Bohemia. You also put the statement that he kept a list of vehicles in front of the citation to the New York Times, but then as you noted later, took it out because it wasn't in the cite given. It's all about referencing as well as wording. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Killed 12 Law Enforcement Officers  

message: Quoting from the article:
"Nelson's robbery spree came to an end when he was arrested in 1931."
Later in the same paragraph:
"Nelson robbed his first bank in Grand Haven, Michigan on August 18, 1933."
Huh?  ?Preceding unsigned comment added by Gredw (talk ? contribs) 21:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't contradictory. A petty robbery career was halted when he was arrested and went to prison. When he got out, he started robbing banks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robbery spree ended 2 years before first robbery. 

message: I have moved the video, it is squishing the two columns of the reference section. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 09:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Video move

message: In the following paragraph from the article:
On April 21, 1930, Nelson robbed his first bank, making off with $4,000. A month later, Nelson and his gang pulled their home invasion scheme again, netting $25,000 worth of jewels. On October 3 of that year, Nelson hit the Itasca State Bank for $4,600; a teller later identified Nelson as one of the robbers. Three nights later, Nelson stole the jewelry of the wife of Chicago mayor Big Bill Thompson, valued at $18,000. She later described her attacker this way, He had a baby face. He was good looking, hardly more than a boy, had dark hair and was wearing a gray topcoat and a brown felt hat, turned down brim."[8] Years later, Nelson and his crew were linked to a botched roadhouse robbery in Summit, Illinois on November 23, 1930 that resulted in gunplay that left three people dead and three others wounded. Three nights later, the Tape Bandits hit a Waukegan Road tavern, and Nelson ended up committing his first murder of note, when he killed stockbroker Edwin R. Thompson
The "Years later"  doesn't add up with the later date of 23 Nov 1930.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.46.176.153 (talk) 08:47, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline Problem 

message: "On April 21, 1930, Nelson robbed his first bank, making off with approximately $4,000" A search of the Internet turns up nothing but variations on this line, so this was probably the source. There is no mention of this robbery in Baby Face Nelson: Portrait of a Public Enemy, a fairly detailed biography of the man, which leads me to believe the information is false. James Galloway (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bank Robbery 

message: If it says he died from "Gunshot Wounds", is there any reason to add on "Ballistic Trauma" also? How about "Rapid Lead Poisoning"?
I will edit it out unless somebody sees a specific need for it... Msjayhawk (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ballistic Trauma