Talk:Ohio State University Marching Band

message: The page seemed to have a nice range of information, but most from the POV of an OSU band member.  I cleaned up some of the sentences and added wiki links… but this is an encyclopedia and sentimental information really needs some facts or references to back it up.  --Zagsa 00:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - the "accolades" section in particular reads like promotional material. Critically, this article makes only passing mention to the series of 2014 hazing scandals. 135.180.199.209 (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice but POV 

message: The OSU Athletics website lists more "i"-dotters than are listed here:  .  Note that you must read the entire article--parts of it are conflicting. 
-- Mohrr 04:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honorary “i”-dotters 

message: This article is getting too long. Since Script Ohio is notable, I think it should get its own article. Currently, Script Ohio redirects to the section in the article. —JonTerry4) 22:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Script Ohio 

message: It looks to me like the "Traditions" section of this article has been lifted from this page here and should be re-written ASAP. Groupthink (talk) 04:01, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've excised the copyvio portions that have been pointed out. -- Upholder (talk) 17:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditions section violates copyright 

message: :Image:Ohio State buckeyes logo.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ohio State buckeyes logo.png

message: I disagree that information regarding the uniforms and staff is not appropriate as the user who just deleted this material does. I would say that is entirely germane but needs to be way more concise and written in a neutral encyclopedic tone with corresponding references. Those who are interested are encouraged to restore this information with improved style and tone. ... That could well extend to most of the rest of the article, too! Markhh (talk) 02:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  deleted uniform and staff info 

message: I removed this text added to the Script Ohio section.  The contributor did not cite any sources and provided no edit notes in an article that already is poorly sourced and lacks quality standards.  If we can find sources for this information then lets put it back into the article.  But for right now poorly sourced contributions make me cringe and this is an article that doesn't need anymore of them.  Here's what I removed:
:"High schools in Ohio (like Kettering Fairmont, Greenville and Boardman) have also adopted it for their marching bands, with every school's case of usage started with having a OSU alumni who studied there and also was or is a past or present OSUMB band member or have asked the band's administration to give them permission to use the Script Ohio routine plus the sousaphone dotting of the "i", either using Sambre et Meuse or other marches as background music, or even adopted it after a OSU visit by the band conductor."
--Cladestine (talk) 18:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Sources Contribution 

message: What is the difference between Ohio State University athletic band and The Ohio State University Marching Band? If there is no difference, should they both be combined together? Ohho (talk) 22:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Judging by the first couple of paragraphs of the Athletic Band article, they are separate bands, with largely separate histories, traditions, membership and qualifications, albeit with a few periods in which they've operated very closely.  JohnInDC (talk) 22:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Ohio State University athletic band

message: Rather than continuing what looks to be the beginning of a petty editing war, please make comments here.  Wikipedia is built on consensus:  please see this page.
I am removing a reference to the Diamond Ohio explicitly as a symbol of the Ohio University Marching 110.  The wording (in reference to the berets worn by TBDBITL) was "Instead of a U.S. military black shield, there is a diamond shaped patch featuring a symbol of the Ohio University Marching Band from Athens Ohio; the Diamond Ohio."  The reference here is inappropriate for several reasons.  
:1.  The Diamond Ohio is not solely a symbol of the 110——it is also a symbol of the Ohio State Marching Band.  If you walk through the band center in Ohio Stadium you see the Diamond Ohio everywhere.  Simply visit their website and you'll see the symbol.  The way that the article was worded was misleading and made it sound like the use of the Diamond Ohio is an explicit reference to the 110.  That's simply not accurate.  If included at all, the reference ought to be worded quite differently:  "a symbol also used by the OU band," for example.
:2.  I believe this reference to the 110 is outside Wikipedia's standards for inclusion in this article.  Please see this page on what Wikipedia is not.  Specifically view the section titled "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion."  I believe this is a matter of promotion for two reasons:
::A.  My point in section 1. of this post that the IP user who made this edit worded it in such a way to ignore the widespread use by TBDBITL and referenced the symbol instead as specifically a symbol of the 110.  The word "also" was nowhere in the edit.
::B.  This comment made by the same IP user on a talk page that referenced the likelihood that the Diamond Ohio was stolen by the Ohio State band.
:I believe this information was included in the article with an agenda and this sort of promotion is entirely inappropriate on Wikipedia.  Again, please see this page on what Wikipedia is not.  It would not be appropriate for a user to go on the Marching 110 page and add information that their nickname (The Most Exciting Band in the Land) is sort of similar Ohio State's nickname (The Best Damn Band in the Land).  It's not relevant.  The person could then cite published works that declare the Ohio State band to be the best in the country.  Simply having a published reference doesn't mean that inclusion in that article is appropriate.  
Moreover, whoever made the first Diamond Ohio is entirely beyond the scope of the article.
If anyone wants to have a discussion, that would be great.  For now, however, I'm removing this edit.  Thanks.
— Gbms86—talk 14:59, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to OU Marching 110 

message: I know there’s a lot of scholarship about the Band’s unique (and ever-evolving) instrumentation, but I’m wondering just how and why Buckeye Battle Cry itself evolved at Ohio State, not just in lyric but in melody, while remaining relatively “fixed” over the last century in the standard version I’ve heard played by Ohio High School Bands, for example... Was there a conscious reason Ohio State departed from the B-B-Cry we hear preserved at the beginning of “Putnam’s Camp, Redding, Connecticut”, in the 1903-1911-1914 Charles Ives composition Three Places In New England? Is it because Ohio didn’t want anything to do with New England? Or some other piracy at work? Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 01:50, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charles Ives & Buckeye B.-Cry 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed