Talk:Etruscan history

message: Etruscan history is quite a different topic from the art, religion, origin theories, government, architecture, etc. This topic should include a narration of the actual events of the civilization as recorded in writing by authors. I suppose there would be a great deal about their relations with the Romans and the Celts as told mainly by historians such as Livy. If it is not in written history then it does not go here. Customs, language, art, etc., go elsewhere. See under Etruscan civilization. The material that is here in the initial stub was taken from the latter article. As you can see it is nearly entirely unsatisfactory and unreferenced. This article is the place to fix and expand it.Dave 15:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub creation

message: An excellent book about the Etruscan civilization is "Etruscan Places" (authors: Maurizio Martinelli and Giulio Paolucci)ISBN 88-8117-157-0.
The introduction (pages 5 - 23) deals with the history of this people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polidoor (talk • contribs) 22:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information about the Etruscans 

message: I see this has gotten a bit chaotic. I also see we have some leading lights looking at it. Thanks for all your work. I think I can safely delete the proposal to merge this article into itself as it seems the pure result of chaos.Dave (talk) 10:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of Etruscan history into Etruscan history

message: We already have an article on the origin of the Etruscans. The topic is somewhat of a morass, covering the legendary aspects of the Etruscans - not the mythology, but the legends about where the Etruscans came from. This can be approached from different topics, but we've chosen to have two different articles. I therefore propose we cut out this material on the origin and stick to the history here. History begins with the first attestation by credible historians. So, we are going to be looking at Livy, Polybius, Plutarch and the like. I might have suggested that first paragraph under origins be put in the origins article. However, it is unsupported and as far as I can see totally wrong (sorry, no offense). It starts out with wrong weasel language and then goes on the identify the Villanovan with Etruscans - I think - well anyway you can catalogue its sins for yourself. This is a legacy paragraph. I once tried to change it long ago and encountering too much flak over it put it off. Now here it is manifestly marked all wrong. So, what I intend to do if no one else does it first is just cut it away and put a reference to the article on origins. If we don't do that, as the data and theories on the Etruscans grow, it will just become more manifestly contradictory to everything else. Who ever wrote it - thanks for your work on behalf on the public - I am sure you would not want to perpetuate your worst writing - I wouldn't - so let us help you. I am sure you have done some good writing - you don't need this - thanks. So, the next time I seriously encounter this I will delete it.Dave (talk) 11:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The "credible" historians you refer to ALL have to be filtered through secondary academic experts as ALL of them have their good points along with much proven inaccuracies in their writings.  Btw, are you seriously trying to state that Villanovan and Etruscan cultures are not connected??HammerFilmFan (talk) 07:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin and history