Talk:Masala chai/Archive 1

message: The bit at the top about the spread of the name of tea needs to be cleaned up for greater readability. 1. I imagine in almost all cases the word "Chai" is language-specific not country specific. 2. Other improvements...
I thought it was untenable to list countries that say 'Chai' to mean tea. Now I wonder whether it is untenable to list all the languages that use the word 'Chai' to mean 'Tea' as part of the main article text.
Note the article used to try to associate what tea is called in a certain country (either Chai or Tea) with the tea trade but this does not hold in general. DanielHolth 3 July 2005 05:43 (UTC)
:I'm a stickler for Hindi transliteration and cay should be cāy  strictly speaking (or Urdu cā'e from the Persian). On a different note: I, not being familiar with the nuances of Eastern Asian cuisine, had never heard of Bubble tea, but when I came across it it reminded me of Indian tea. Link? Or would this be redundant and lead to other links like maté? In any case it is always nice to find a little hub of WP where the Hindi vs. Urdu wars haven't breached yet. Khiradtalk 04:42, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: What about adding few proverbs related to Chai.
Probably it may not be everyones cup of tea; 
Atleast we have a live example of a storm in a teacup going on in with the editors of Hindi & Urdu Pratheepps 09:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proverbs on Chai 

message: Psychedelics where not brought up in the article, and to equate 'psychedelic' with psytrance in this context serves no constructive purpose as far as I can see, and may even elucidate a negative editorial response to that segment. I hope that my fear is unfounded, and that I may shed some light, if however little, upon this subject.
There is a noteworthy relationship between the global underground music scene and masala chai. I do not have enough knowledge to elucidate what this relationship exists, but I have witnessed a strong anthropological correlation of masala chai at events I have attended (such as Shambhala 06, http://www.shambhalamusicfestival.com/ ,  and Intentions 7.5 http://www.tribalharmonix.org/events/summercamp/).
Intuition leads me to believe there must be some benefit of chai to the lifestyle of a participant in such an event.  
If we consider that a participant is probably eating very little, sleeping very little, and dancing very much, how does masala chai create benefit? 
What answers would be get from the wisdom of the Ayurvedic sciences about the last question?
Whats answers would we get from the data accumulated by researchers into the effects of the individual, and combined effects biologically, and maybe even upon the consciousness, of the participant? 
What do masala chai drinkers who attend such events say? 
206.116.233.231 03:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chai is, in fact, a complete meal in and of itself. You get carbs, protein, vitamins, and antioxidents with every cup of Chai. Therefore and insomuch, consumption of said beverage by an individual commonly described as a "raver" is highly recommended, in order to sustain more dancing and consumption of psychoactive substances. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sakredfire (talk • contribs) 11:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to above query 

message: Two or three of the External Links go to retailers that sell their own brand of chai. According to Wikipedia's linking policy, sites that primarily exist to promote a product should not be linked to. Unless anyone has any objections, I'll be removing those links. Ztrawhcs 15:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This may not have been what you were refering to, but I noticed Oregon Chai is currently (red) linked as an example of Western interpretations heavy in honey and vanilla flavors. I see no reason that link would ever have the importance to rank a wikipedia article. On the other hand, people who aren't familiar with the company deserve to know what it is. To me, it seems that linking to the (albeit commercial) Oregon Chai homepage would be the best way to fix this. The other option would be to remove the example completely, which might also be a good fix. Opinions?
--Spyforthemoon 16:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: Just wanted to make a note about my changes of the reference to chai as a 'Hindi' word. It is POV to cite it as being a Hindi word without reference to its also being a word of the many other distinct Indian languages out there. There is also no verifiable etymological proof that it solely originated in Hindi and then was picked up by other Indian languages. Hence, the term pan-Indian. 68.173.46.79 04:30, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chai - the word and language

message: This is unclear to say the least. The first section states that chai is just the Hindi word for tea, while masala is the hindi word for spice. Then some general info about the tea-drinking habits of India. Fine.
But the second section gives directions for making what appears to be masala chai. This is confusing, the article just said chai isn't the same as masala chai, but it then gives directions for masala chai on the chai page.
Proposal: rename this page to 'masala chai' since that's the only main content item. People looking for the american 'chai' would get redirected to the more specific term. The general Indian tea information could either stay on the new masala chai page, or just go into the main tea article. I originally thought of this as a merge, but while the masala page doesn't have much information, it doesn't match well enough to merge.--Spyforthemoon 14:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. -SpuriousQ 11:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thirded BovineBeast 16:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fourthed --Sakredfire 11:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fifthed. 130.225.96.2 19:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chai vs. masala chai

message: In Serbian language, the word "čaj", pronounced "chai" is also used to denote Tea.  I don't know how the word got into the language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.30.64.46 (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From Persian چای chay, which came from Chinese 茶 cha. The y at the end is from the Persian grammatical suffix -yi. The info's been added in now. - M0rphzone (talk) 03:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chai in Serbian 

message: I see one man's life is another's tea, lol..... ;)  —  Rickyrab | Talk 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: w00t

message: Let me make this clear: Chai stands for Tea! so when you say Chai Tea, it means you're saying Tea Tea! Please refer to chai tea(which is obviously incorrect) as Chai or if you are referring to Masala Chai, then say so. --Irutavias 20:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tea Tea? 

message: The whole section on etymology looks very suspiciously like original research.  Unless someone (for example, whoever wrote it) can come up with some good sources, I would suggest removing the section entirely.--M m hawk 01:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, since this section is basically a repeat of part of Tea#Etymology_and_cognates_in_other_languages, I'll remove the section from here and refer the reader to the Tea Etymology section near the beginning.--M m hawk (talk) 21:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Whilst this is well beyond a dicdef, care should be taken to avoid original research when trying to expand on this.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 00:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As pointed out above, this seems like a duplicate of tea that serves little purpose than to point out some etymological differences.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 00:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a dictionary