Talk:List of William Shakespeare screen adaptations

message: I do not think that it is appropriate for a mere list to form the basis of an encyclopaedia entry (and, it is a surpisingly incomplete list and one whose taxonomy is inconsistent anyway). I therefore balk at touching it. I could add substantially to the list but see no point — there are many specialist movie sites that might benefit from this form of listing or already have one for all I know. It might be interesting to write a page that examines the different approaches taken to adapt Shakespeare for the screen. . . And is this supposed to be "movie" in the sense of cinema or should it also include television?
David91
I agree that this list not good. I'm willing to make a stab at making this entry interesting and informative if I do something fiddling with categories. I'd want to distinguish between filmed stage plays and movie adaptations. Also direct-to-video filmings of stage productions shouldn't even be mentioned. Which means that a lot of this (very boring) list will be deleted. If I hear no objections, I'm going to go to it. ZviGilbert 19:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably a good idea to keep the list around in some form. This is a poor article title in any case -- it should be "List of Shakespeare film adaptations" or something more descriptive (and Wikipedia has lots of lists, don't worry about that), whereas an article-article might be "Shakespeare works adapted for stage and screen", which is a little awkward still. That's a great idea for an article, Zvi, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater! --Dhartung | Talk 07:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List not good 

message: OK, I've gone mad and rewritten the whole page from scratch.
It's now getting a "too big" message, so at some point maybe someone will need to divide this up into smaller parts.
Just for the record, I was left with the following core of items which were on this page before I started, and are now not. As well as the (many) other tasks implied by my rewrite, one might be for someone (ideally an American) to look through these to see if they can be verified or expanded:
*Shakespeare Behind Bars (2005)
*"A Taste of Shakespeare" (1995)
*Shakespeare in the Park (1995)
*Shakespeare... In and Out (1999)
*Happy Birthday Shakespeare (2000) (TV)
*Ian McKellen: Acting Shakespeare (1982) (TV)
*Master Will Shakespeare (1936)
*Shivering Shakespeare (1930)
*William Shakespeare (2000)
*"Life of Shakespeare" (1978) (mini) aka "Will Shakespeare" - UK aka "William Shakespeare, His Life & Times" - (video title)
*The Jailbird (1920) aka "Shakespeare Clancy" - USA (working title)
*Henry Winkler Meets William Shakespeare (1977) (TV)
*"Shakespeare Lives!" (1982)
*Shakespeare og Kronborg (1950)
*"The Shakespeare Plays" (1979)
*"Shakespeare Shorts" (1996)
*Shakespeare: Soul of an Age (1962)
*The Goddess Bunny Channels Shakespeare (1989) (V)
*My Shakespeare (2004) (TV)
*Suffering Shakespeare (1924)
*The Channel (2002) aka "Shakespeare Beach" - USA (working title)
*The Life of Shakespeare (1914) aka "Loves and Adventures in the Life of Shakespeare" - USA
*Master Shakespeare, Strolling Player (1916)
*RSC Meets USA: Working Shakespeare (2002) (V)
*A&E Biography: William Shakespeare - A Life of Drama (1996) (TV) aka "A&E Biography: William Shakespeare - A Life of Drama"
*Shades of Shakespeare (1919)
*Who Wrote Shakespeare's Works? (1990) (TV) aka "Uncovering Shakespeare: An Update" - USA (closing credits title)
*Why Shakespeare? (2004) (V)
*Shake, Mr. Shakespeare (1936)
*Will Shakespeare (1938) (TV)
*Strange Brew (1983 adaptation of Hamlet)
*Scotland, PA (2001 adaption of MacBeth)
I have removed the wikify tag, as it clearly related to a completely different article. Anyone may add a wikify tag to this if they consider it appropriate.
I think this page should now be moved to "Shakespeare on screen", which is a better description, and that a link should be added to the Shakespeare category tag. I will try to do those, today.
Then I am going to rest with a beer. AndyJones 19:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: I see a reference on this page to Simon Callow playing "Sir John Tinsley" (in Shakespeare in Love).
I thought the historical Master of the Revels was called Edmund Tilney, but I am working from memory, and am also aware that a the film character might not have the same name as an historical counterpart. Does anyone have any sources for this? AndyJones 16:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir John Tinsley?? 

message: I've reverted the removal of two images from this page. Can anyone explain what that was about? AndyJones 20:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Movie and tv screenshot may only be used when some critical comentary on the movie/tv program is being made, which I don't believe is the case here. --Abu Badali 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm not a US copyright lawyer, so I can't comment on the rightness or wrongness of that: however I certainly cannot see how that logic could possibly apply to two out of the seven images on this page. Doesn't wikipedia have a policy about this we can refer to? AndyJones 16:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Fair Use is the guideling you may want to read. Besides that, there's allways a bold text on the image licensing tag that breafly explains where and when that image may be used. See  and  for instance. Best regards, --Abu Badali 16:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of images. 

message: How in-depth is this supposed to be? Do we include everything from the biggest-of-budgets to the soft core-porn/sex-comedy The Secret Sex Lives of Remeo and Juliet? Hell, just search for one of the titles on IMDb, and you get a huge list of titles, most of which are not here. Should every one be on here? zafiroblue05 | Talk 18:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Woefully incomplete

message: I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information.  I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list.  Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article.  I see this page runs something along those lines and would like to suggest this model for Shakespeare references - perhaps a good approach would be to have separate branching pages for straight adaptations of his works and for cultural refrences to Shakespeare - such as paintings and Shakespeare in Love and the infamous Gilligan's Island episode.  I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here.  Regards, Durova 16:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Cultural depictions of William Shakespeare]] 

message: should probably be included —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.231.189.189 (talk) 05:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Midsummer Night's Rave 

message: This is my first experience editing a Wikipedia entry, and given the way it's going, it'll probably be my last.  I added the Hamlet adaptation Strange Illusion to the page, and "someone" removed my changes via a reversion.  I'm all about correcting errors, but I'm against someone who removes a person's contribution, especially when the self-appointed information policeman is wrong--dead wrong.
I have two sources for this adaptation.  The first is easy: see the Amazon entry for the film.  Second, the Library of Congress (yes, the one in Washington, DC) is showing Shakespeare adaptations in early 2007 in its Mary Pickford Theater as part of the Shakespeare in Washington festival, and one of the films is Strange Illusion.
If I can figure out how to edit these pages properly, I'll include a link below to the festival event.  And to the person who incorrectly reverted my contribution, thanks for making my first Wikipedia experience a negative one.  Next time, ask before you delete.
http://www.washington.org/shakespeare/details.cfm?partid=24&eventid=23
Pxm 11:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange Illusion Adaptation of Hamlet 

message: I tend to think that this article has grown to the point that it needs to be split into different article for each of the works.  This could be a central page summarizing the main/more well-known adaptations, with links to sub-pages. Wrad 23:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean.  In my opinion, what we need is to also put perfomance-type info in these articles.  There is a lot said about film adaptations of shakespeare, and this would be the place for it.  It would also make it more prose than list. In this way we could separate theatre from film and tv performances better. Maybe try it with Henry V, that has some film commentary. Wrad 19:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After thinking about it for awhile, I get the feeling it may be best just to wait until the project collaborates on a play article.  Doing that will hammer out  the issues of what we do with sub-articles and other issues involved with play articles. Wrad 17:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now THAT is what a split article ought to look like!!! AndyJones 21:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  split? 

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message: I don't understand the rationale for the page move, for the reasons I gave when the same issue was raised at Talk:Hamlet on screen#Page move.
I'll move this back, tomorrow, unless someone has an explanation. AndyJones (talk) 17:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: As can be seen above, I argued for Shakespeare on screen as the name of this page some years ago. I assume the move from that was done for consistency with other similar pages. But I don't like the current name for three reasons:
#"William Shakespeare" is redundant since everyone knows who "Shakespeare" is and that's what's used in most articles about him except the main one;
#"Film" is wrong and "Screen" would be better since film implies big-screen when this page doesn't limit itself to that; and
#"Adaptations" is wrong when the page itself makes a distinction between "Performances" and "Adaptations" and lists both.
So (unless anyone is prepared to support me on a revert to Shakespeare on screen) I suggest a move to List of screen performances and adaptations of Shakespeare's works, which I'll do in a couple if days unless anyone has another suggestion?? AndyJones (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Move 2

message: the following is unsourced
The earliest known production is King John (1899 film). 
Moved here per WP:PRESERVE Jytdog (talk) 23:23, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks . I restored the info, and added a reference, as the IP user was correct to replace the info regarding the 1900 Hamlet with this. Man oh man, this article needs so much work!! One of these days... Bertaut (talk) 23:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: all good, thanks!! Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  earliest 

message: IMDb (also see description with more detailed cast list @ Shakespeare's Globe) lists a 2012 production ("Globe on Screen: All's Well That Ends Well") with Michael Bertenshaw, Sam Cox and Naomi Cranston directed by John Dove? Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add it. But as a general note, keep in mind that this article isn't attempting to be a complete list. We just haven't gotten around to designing sane inclusion criteria yet, so the current list is somewhat random in what it includes. So use your best judgement as to whether this particular adaptation should be included. --Xover (talk) 15:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re All's Well that Ends Well