Talk:Ogier (law firm)

message: Marked this for speedy deletion. Someone else had previously tried to, but left a typo in the tag. Reads as a blatant advert, and most of the content was added early on by username Tomnewbald, who according to Google is the "Online Development Manager" for Ogiers. 81.20.181.126 (talk) 10:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't intended to be an advert.  I started the article some time ago as part of a series of articles on all of the firms in the offshore magic circle, but I know little about Ogier other than the basics, so I wasn't able to flesh it out.  I agree that the article needs some healthy and constructive input. --Legis (talk - contribs) 11:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I only used that tag because it was already present, but visible in the article as it was mis-spelled. However, removing the promotional sounding COI edits will take it back down to a very short stub. Is the company really notable? Perhaps the information in offshore magic circle will suffice, without its own article? 81.20.181.126 (talk) 11:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the person who added the advert tag.  If they really do employ 800 people and do representation worldwide, then I would argue that they are notable.  However, this article needs a great deal of work.  I know absolutely nothing about Ogier besides what I've read here, and much of that is questionable.  Hopefully somebody will soon come along and fix it.  Otherwise, I'd be in favor of trimming it back to a stub.  Cmichael (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they are notable under the unofficial "big fish in a small pond" criteria.  They are a pretty key part of the economic landscape in Jersey, although I don't have hard numbers.  They win "offshore law firm" of the year every so often (not as rare as it sounds - there are lots of "offshore law firm" of the year awards).  I don't know a great deal about them other than reputationally. --Legis (talk - contribs) 16:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: OK, I'm going to go ahead and nominate this article for WP:AFD.  It's been sitting here for several months, and I see little or no improvement in it from the points of view of either notability or verifiability.  It is still largely written as an advertisement.  It does not, in my judgment, meet WP:Company, as the citations given are mostly aimed at niche-markets. Ogier has received trivial and incidental coverage in trade publications. There is no evidence of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources.  I think that a serious deletion discussion, at the very least, is warranted.  Cmichael (talk) 03:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The result of the discussion was to keep the article, with agreement that we would trim it down to a stub and basically start over.  So, if you have thoughts about improving it, please feel free to have at it, and best wishes!  Cmichael (talk) 02:33, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, please have a look at WP:ATTACK and WP:RELIABLE, then take another stab at improving the article. Thanks.  Cmichael (talk) 03:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD Nomination

message: In the main article this was spelled two different ways; I have corrected both to "Giffard" (with an "a") which seems more likely, but not anything I know much about.
Separately, is John Francis Giffard any relation to Hardinge Giffard aka Lord Halsbury (English Lord Chancellor and original editor of Halsburys Laws of England)?  If so, should that be noted?
--Legis (talk - contribs) 16:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: John Francis Giffard

message: The entire revision history of this article for several years seems to be a menagerie of single-purpose accounts. jp×g 09:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  COI tag (October 2022)