Talk:Yuna Ito

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Jreferee 23:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: Apparently, there is an edit war going on between a blog version and the translated official version of Yuna Ito's biography.  There still seems to be no effort to merge these 2 versions.
The blog version seems to be written originally by Mara, a site admin within the nana-nana.net/yunaforum website.  This blog version seems to be problematic, in that there are numerous grammatical and spelling errors, and seems to be posted into Wikipedia by anonymous user(s).  Also, there may be a problem with the Wikipedia:Citing sources policy, as the blog version is never properly cited within the article.
The translated official version is based on Sony's official version in Japanese (click biography), translated by bemmu.com, and posted into Wikipedia by actual Wikipedia users (Kamezuki, Yajimari21, etc.).
I propose to merge these 2 versions, if the following conditions are met.  I think we need to know where Mara obtained her information:  a childhood friend of Yuna, or an ex-employee of Itochan Sushi, or whatever.  I think we need to reveal the identity of the source of this information.  Even then, the material from the blog version should be merely supplemental to the translated official version.  Also, any grammatical & spelling errors must be corrected.--Endroit 20:00, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, this is pretty badly written.  (I can write 'fluent' kana too,  that means almost nothing) 16:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Blog version

message: Yuna, is common name among Korean female. Plus its funny and stupid why would Yuna Ito or her mother be offended if the name " Yuna" can be common name in Korean and Japanese. Yuna Ito by blood she is part Korean. Please leave out bias opinion please. As Yuna Ito fan and Honolulu, Hawaii residence as a perosn who does know her mother well. Her mother is not type of person who would be offended if name Yuna be common used name in Korean and Japanese.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korea4one (talk • contribs) 10:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm not sure whether you are close or not with the mother of this pop star but please do help out this poorly written article, thanks a lot. --Bakahito 12:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing with mom's help 

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message: I'm totally shocked! Someone from Wikiproject Hawaii dropped Ito's status to "low". This editor doesn't have a clue. I'm also from Hawaii (Pearl City). The reason why Yuna is virtually an unknown in the islands is that the local media as a whole won't give her the coverage - just because she's not "local" enough and doesn't speak da-kine. She chose the Japanese market over the U.S. That's not something to hold against her. Look at Jasmine Trias... Her only claim to fame is being on American Idol (and she didn't win). Ito, on the other hand won the same OC16 singing event as Jasmine. She appeared in a major movie in Japan. She appeared on Kouhaku, which is recognized even by the local contingency in Hawaii and the world. And, she's even worked with Celine Dion. All Jasmine's done is compete in a demon-dialing voting campaign (which btw was an embarrassment to Hawaii,) and is now catering almost exclusively for the Filipinos. If Jasmine's rated as "mid", Yuna should also be "mid". Groink (talk) 02:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi.  Unless you are a member of the project, you probably should not be changing our assessments.  Your reasoning above shows a basic misunderstanding of how the importance field is used by a project to prioritize the workload.  Since this parameter is not generally understood or used, many projects have stopped using it, and I plan on doing the same. To the best of my knowledge, this article is of a low priority for the Hawaii project for several reasons: other projects are already working on the article, and as you admit above, it is not as Hawaii-related as Trias.  Usually, an assessment is made by an editor who is not biased, one way or the other.  In the future, please do not change project assessments unless you are sufficiently neutral and are working on the project.  To contest an assessment by a project, use the project talk page.  Lastly, I find your complaint somewhat ironic, since I raised the assessment from start to C-class, and that is the only criteria that matters on the frontend.  The "importance" field is for use on the backend, and has no bearing on the quality of an article. Viriditas (talk) 05:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  My complaint about the "importance" field is exactly what you mentioned - you guys should be working more to boost this article than Trias. Is it because an article like Trias is easier to write because of more interest to the locals, while Ito's article requires more research? The "bias" you mention shows throughout your importance rating system in your project. And no, I did not say that Ito's article is not Hawaii related. She is just as kamaaina as Trias, and both she and Angela Aki (an article which btw your project hasn't even tagged) are probably doing more for the Hawaii economy by boosting Japanese tourism and bringing more Japanese productions to the islands. Groink (talk) 07:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, again.  Your comments above show that the general rule about "bias" on Wikipedia holds true.  Basically, whenever an editor makes an accusation of "bias" on a talk page, 9 times out of 10, it is the editor making the accusation who is biased, not the person or project that they are targeting.  In case you missed it the first time, the importance field has nothing to do with the quality of an article.  It has to do with whether the project is prioritizing the article as part of its workload.  This has absolutely nothing to do with bias, and everything to do with whether there are editors on the project who work on these types of articles, whether the article itself is directly related to the project, and whether other projects are already working on it.  If for some reason this isn't making sense to you, feel free to ask me questions, or ask someone else, or post a query on the project page.  Your comments above are only your opinion, so if you want to convince me that there is some reason I should stop working on more important Hawaii-related articles and prioritize this one, then you'll need evidence.  In case you have forgotten, this is a volunteer project, and there's no reason why WikiProject Hawaii should make this article a priority when it is the domain of other more topical projects.  Your entire argument here lacks any sort of evidence, so please provide it (i.e. sources) if you reply.  You say that the Hawaii project should be doing more to "boost" this article, but that isn't how WikiProjects work.  Your misunderstanding has led you to make some false accusations, and I suggest you take some time to think about your position before replying again. Viriditas (talk) 08:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

text:  My last comment, because you are totally blowing my comments out of context, and one can't debate an issue when the other person's in left field. The purpose of WikiProjects is to provide resources for articles that need the resources. The "importance" indicator indicates the amount of resources an article needs, i.e. if an article has "mid" importance, it should have more people working on it than a "low" importance article. Simply, the overall goal every Wikipedian has is for the article to reach "good article" status. You have the importance factor totally bass-ackwards. It appears that articles that many Hawaiians know a lot about have the higher importance ratings, such as Barack Obama where it should be "low" importance since a ton of people from other projects are already working on it. In fact, it should be the reverse: the Hawaii-related articles people know less about should have higher importance status, and be improved so that the Hawaiians will know more about the subject matter of the article. That is how, as you put it, "prioritizing the article as part of its workload." I have no bias towards this article than any other Hawaii-related article. I just have a concern about how your project uses the "importance" and how the workload is managed. Groink (talk) 08:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the silliest comment I've read in a long time, and it does not deserve a response.  As I said before, please take any concerns you have about project assessment to the project talk page.  Even after I explained how "importance" is used, you either refuse to understand it or are unable for some reason.  Telling me how you think the project should use the importance field is a nice bit of fantasy/fiction, but we need to discuss how we actually use it.  Like I said, it is for the backend only, and has no bearing on quality.  You don't seem to understand how importance is used.  Importance is based on project scope.  You are welcome to educate yourself by reading this article.  According to that link, you should not have changed the assessment. Viriditas (talk) 09:27, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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