Talk:Arrian

message: I'm not going to make the change, but I suggest the author think about deleting or modifying this sentence. Writing in the style of a prior historical period is of course difficult, but the comparison with our trying to write the English of Shakespeare is not really apt because Shakespeare was a poet, and a very florid one, not a military historian of a classical literary period.  The comparison would be appropriate, I think, if Arrian were trying to write like Homer or Sophocles, maybe.  I can't think of any English equivalent that would compare classical Attic prose to koine appropriately, and favor deleting the sentence or adding one or two remarks about the effort Arrian made to write in the classical Attic style, common among writers at that time, and the awkwardness of style that resulted from that. I like the article overall.  That is my only comment.
--McTeague 16:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I think the part concerning Arrian's works contains a bit too many personal remarks, sometimes to the point of being flippant. Any thoughts?--K.C. Tang (talk) 06:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: A photo of a probable likeness of Arrian exists, see http://www.fernhill.com/arrianus-nederlands.htm
This should be included in the article, with precedence to "Alexander", and I believe it is legitimately available.--Richard Hawkins (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustration 

message: I feel it's pretty safe to call Arrian a Bithynian since the guy was motivated by love of his native Bithynia to write a book of its history.  He dedicates the book as an offering to the nation of Bithynia.  There's really nothing more that's humanly possible to do to prove that you're a Bithynian.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abu America (talk • contribs) 07:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you really not aware that millions of Texans are not "of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity"?--98.111.164.239 (talk) 09:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bithynian, not Greek 

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message: "Arrian left an Encheiridion (Handbook) of Epictetus' philosophy."  He did a lot more than that; he wrote the whole Discourses.  Most philosophers don't even read the Encheiridion anymore because the Discourses are so much fuller.  I also disagree with "In a comparison of the contents of the Enchiridion with the Discourses, it is apparent that the former contains material not present within the latter, suggesting an original lost source for the Enchiridion."  That's not the usual explanation; rather, the portions of Encheiridion that don't have an obvious parallel in the extant Discourses are usually thought to refer to the lost portions of the latter.--98.111.164.239 (talk) 09:53, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epictetus 

message: Under "Biographical series" it says:
"There were also a number of monographs or biographies, including of Dion of Syracuse, Timoleon of Corinth, and Tilliborus, a brigand or robber of Asia minor, which are now lost.[86][87][88][89][90] "
But the work about Tilliborus is most likely just a joke made by Lukian  in his "Alexander the False Prophet"; in the Anabasis, Arrian goes on and on about writing great literature about a great historical figure, that the writer of the story has to be worthy of his subject etc. He would not have written a book about some robber. This is exactly what Lukian makes fun of with his remark, that he could write about such a deviant person as Alexander of Abonuteichos, since someone like Arrian wrote about the robber Tilliboros.
Reference:Sabine Müller: Icons, Images, Interpretations: Arrian,Lukian, their Relationship, and Alexander at the Kydnos, in: Karanos 1, 2018, pp. 67-86, p. 71-72.
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thread_title:  Tilliborus is not a real work by Arrian