Talk:Wrongful execution

message: This page was created with source-supported sections which keep getting removed from the Capital punishment article, not as a content fork, but as a separate article to keep them online in main article space. --James S. 19:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: I know it might be hard to get facts and figures for the other countries with capital punishment such as the PRC, Iran etc but that could have some context within this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.252.33 (talk) 10:24, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-western Countries? 

message: Does someone else think it might be good to have statistics on wrongful executions? E.g. how many death sentences are wrongful?
LinuxMercedes (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statistics? 

message: The link to the "25 Cases" article at Capital Defense Weekly is broken, and can't find the article we're trying to link to.  As this article seems to be the principal source for the information in the body of this page, can someone give a shot at finding it? atakdoug (talk) 18:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: http://capitaldefenseweekly.com/innocent.html updated 2007 (bottom of page) MilesAgain (talk) 05:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. atakdoug (talk) 07:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Link to the major source -- I can't find the article 

message: Strong Support, Provided: that Judicial Murder as an article be eliminated when merged.  Wrongful Execution is the neutral term for this sort of thing.  Judicial murder implies that a murder took place, which requires intent to kill, etc... Cesium_133 (talk) 08:57 6 March 2009 (UTC)
*Support. I agree with the above contributer, and see no reason to have a seperate article just for a different term for the same thing.
*Oppose Wrongful execution is an accident due to incomplete or wrong information, while judicial murder is not accidental.  Wrongful execution would be if a jury sentences a person to execution to bad or incomplete evidence.  Judicial murder is when the state executes someone for an unjustified reason.  The reference that argues they are the same (Unschuldig verurteilt! Aus der Chronik der Justizmorde, Hermann Mostar) appears to be in German, so I don't see how it is relevant to the semantics of English here.   Austin512 (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate on Merger of Article with Wrongful Execution

message: In , on October 14, 2009  South Carolina pardoned two men electrocuted on September 29, 1915. Simesa (talk) 01:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: South Carolina admits two men wronfully executed in 1915

message: Ronald Ryan was hanged in 1967 for the shooting death of a prison officer. There were no scientific ballistic forensics for evidence to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, mysterious missing pieces of vital evidence that could have cleared Ryan, serious ambiguities in the case, dire inconsistencies of all fourteen eyewitnesses' for the prosecution, testimony by another prison officer that he fired one single shot (heard by all witnesses, no person heard two shots fired) and ballistic expert testimony that the fatal shot was fired from a distance at an elevated position in a downward trajectory angle, Ronald Ryan was convicted based solely on unrecorded unproven and unsigned allegations of verbals/confessions, said to have been made by Ryan to police. Ryan only signed documents that he would not give any verbal or written statements and always denied ever making such verbals/confessions to any person, claiming he had been "verballed". They both pleaded not guilty.Ronald Ryan was hanged less than one year later and seven days before his unfunded (Victorian Government withdrew all legal aid funding) final appeal to The Privy Council had made a decision. http://www.ronaldryan.info
Confessions in itself, or another person’s interpretation of a one’s confession is not sufficient proof of guilt. Confessions are often the practice of forcing a person to behave in an involuntary manner whether through action or inaction by use of coercion, intimidation, trickery, creating feelings of guilt/obligation, or other forms of psychological pressure. Such actions are used as leverage to force a person to act in the desired way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercive_persuasion  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.64.166 (talk) 01:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Australia - serious doubts on wrongfull execution in 1967

message: "RALEIGH (August 18, 2010) The criminal convictions of three people who have since been executed in North Carolina, and four more cases in which the defendants are now on death row, are in doubt because of faulty lab work by the SBI, according to a new, scathing report written by former FBI agents who examined the troubled agency's blood work." Ginger Conspiracy (talk) 10:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  FBI says bad North Carolina lab work executed three from '87 to '03 

message: User Bepopalula has been running a biased campaign on these pages trying to include unnecessary information about the execution of Ronald Ryan.  The information has been added to the following articles...
*Capital punishment in Australia
*HM Prison Pentridge
*Wrongful execution
*Miscarriage of justice
In all cases, the information is a rambling attempt to show that Ronald Ryan was wrongly convicted and executed.  It is poorly written, badly cited, largely subjective, and does not belong in any of the articles it has been repeatedly put in to.<BR> 
Bepopalula has repeatedly replaced the info, and his edit summary claim that my (and others') attempts to remove this are labelled as vandalism.<BR>
While preparing this response, I noticed that the concerns had already been raised previously with regard to user 93.185.104.30, who made identical changes to the exact same four pages.
Can administrators take note of my concerns and take appropriate action as needed.
Thanks--Dmol (talk) 04:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: First, I am no suckpuppet. The constant accusations of suspected sockpuppetry are an attempt to stop users from contributing or reverting vandalized edits. Please be aware that every Wikipedia article relating to Ronald Ryan has very often been vandalized within the last two years, mostly by User Purrum, followed a short time later by another user who vandalizes the article in exactly the same manner. All contributions based on citations and references might look similar BECAUSE the contributions have been extracted from similar citations and references. There is no bias nor campaign about the guilt of Ronald Ryan, it is the personal views of a few users. User Purrum's opinion on every 'factual' contributions, citations, references and new articles relating to Ronald Ryan do not belong anywhere. Evidence of Purrum's past history records show Purrum's persistent disruptive edits and vandalism on everything relating to Ronald Ryan. Purrum claims to know that Ronald Ryan was guilty, even though hundreds of citations, references and news articles by criminal experts say otherwise. Whether Ronald Ryan was guilty or not is irrelevant, but the public has a right to be informed of the 'facts'. Purrum's lengthy talk page is evidence of unreliable contributions resulting in Wikipedia requests for speedy deletion of many articles. User Dmol considers this as good record of edits. There is ample evidence in Purrum's lengthy history records of contributions that prove the overwhelming number of persistent disruptive edits and vandalism on everything relating to Ronald Ryan. This is not an allegation as suggested by User Dmol, but in fact the truth. As for me, I have done nothing wrong, my history records of contributions proves this. I have added original contributions relating to Ronald Ryan made by other users, which Purrum has vandalized time and time again over the past two years. I ask administrators to look at the evidence and the false allegations against me. Thanks. Bepopalula (talk) 00:35, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disruptive edits by Bepopalula.  Suspected sockpuppet. 

message: In the "Specific Examples" section, it says, "Thomas Griffin and Meeks Griffen" However, they are brothers in their own article, with the same last name, "Griffin." Please fix.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.196.21 (talk) 18:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! --GenericBob (talk) 00:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meeks Griffen? 

message: Does Troy Davis belong here?  It is widely considered to have been a wrongful execution.  Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troy Davis? 

message: "Innocence Project" deserves mention (link to wikipedia article) Ecstatist (talk) 04:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also 

message: The Texas case that came up when Rick Perry announced his bid for the presidency, the one with the white trash father who failed to rescue his kids from their burning home, what was the guy's name? He was executed and the case has drawn a lot of interest in particular because of the shitty investigative work involved (i.e. the investigator saying he was a "satanist" because he liked rock music and arsoned the house on purpose as part of a ritual, etc.) that was revealed by outside investigators, after the fact. --76.115.67.114 (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Pending Texas case

message: See the latest news story
http://www.inquisitr.com/236994/carlos-deluna-wrongfully-executed-in-texas-says-report/
Please update the article. This headline can be found on various sources online.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.172.37 (talk) 12:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specific Example of Wrongful Execution in US 

message: 71.175.169.49 (talk) 06:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Willingham - update 

message: Footnote 1 of this law article explains that "wrongful" in "wrongful execution" has a somewhat different meaning from other legal contexts. 
:The term "wrongfully convicted" describes persons convicted in proceedings in which prejudicial legal error occurred and, as such, includes persons who were not actually innocent of the crimes for which they were convicted. The term "wrongful execution" refers to the execution of innocent persons.
Wikipedia usage is varied ( and  and wrongful)
jnestorius(talk) 12:58, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of "wrongful" 

message: Although some still regard him as guilty, I think there’s enough good reason to justify adding Bruno Richard Hauptmann to the United States examples. Hauptmann was a German immigrant carpenter. He was accused, convicted, and executed for the infamous Lindbergh kidnapping. But I, for one, believe that they framed him. I think he was completely innocent of the crime.
I think his ex-roommate, Isidor Fisch, was an accomplice to the crime, which is how Hauptmann ended up caught in the snare. But I believe Hauptmann himself genuinely had nothing to do it.
And I’m far from the only person to hold this opinion. Many books (and even a movie) have argued for Hauptmann’s innocence, and I think they are correct.
Anyway, if no one has any objection, I would like to add a brief mention of Hauptmann’s case in this article, sometime soon. It wouldn’t be more than about three sentences long. Thegoldenconciseencyclopediaofmammals (talk) 21:15, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let’s add “the Lindbergh kidnapper” 

message: Larry Griffin (September 23, 1954 - June 21, 1995) -  was a man accused of killing 19-year-old Quintin Moss. Moss was killed in a drive-by shooting while allegedly dealing drugs on a street corner. The alleged crime happened in Saint Louis, Missouri, on June 26, 1980Did Missouri execute an innocent man?. MSNBC (2005-07-12). Retrieved on 2007-11-20.. On June 21, 1995, the State of Missouri executed Griffin by lethal injection. He is one of the few people who were put to death soley based on the testimony of a single sole witness who had been at the crime scene.  
The testimony against Larry Griffin came from Robert Fitzgerald, a career criminal from Boston. The testimony had loopholes since when the crime occurred Fitzgerald was not in Griffin's proximity!!!
-The Apostle of Ecumenism 145.82.14.11 (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larry Griffin, executed Innocent!