Talk:The Penultimate Peril

message: Has anyone else noticed the similarities between the ending scene of this book and the events of september 11? It seems rather unlikely that an author could both write about a large, occupied building being burned (and destroyed) AND include a quote that specifically mentions skyscrapers falling without having 9/11 in mind. In keeping with the style of the other books in this series, this is a connection that children may not easily notice but an adult does immediately. Any opinions?
:I don't think so. I mean, let's face it - buildings have been falling down in pop culture for eons. Think Fight Club. Think The Towering Inferno. Think the Tower of Babel. I'm sure that when Snicket wrote about the destruction of the hotel his mind would definitely have remembered September 11, but I don't believe that he wrote it to reference that in any way. Daydream believer2 05:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Tower of Babel didn't fall down; Jericho fell down. — the Man in Question (in question) 21:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Sept 11 Connection?

message: The Lousy Lane is a pretty unlikely name for the book, even if it does end up taking place there. Only one book (The Reptile Room) has been named after a place actually mentionned in the book. Most of them have taken place at alliterative locations, but none other has been named after it:
*The Lacrymose Lake: The Wide Window
*The Prufrock Prep: The Austere Academy
*The Mortmain Mountains: The Slippery Slope
Furthermore, even those that have been named after the location use an adjective to describe it rather than the name itself:
*The Heimlich Hospital: The Hostile Hospital
*The Caligari Carnival: The Carnivorous Carnival
*The Gorgonian Grotto: The Grim Grotto
I am aware the "lousy" is an adjective and that it accurately describes the lane, but given the above it seems unlikely that it will be used. Besides, at one end of Lousy Lane is the city, where books I and VI have already taken place, at th'other end is Uncle Monty's, which has been done, and in the middle is horseradishes. Not much room for a book there.
The theory can still be mentionned, but the paragraph about lousy lane should prolly go--Signor Giuseppe 19:41, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have partially restored the Lousy Lane paragraph. I agree with your comments above, and think that it probably is not Lousy Lane, but really we have no way of knowing. I have tried to clarify why some people might think it might be though. The description paragraph is a bit long and could be shorted to the last sentence perhaps, the reason why it was like this, is that this article used to be called Lousy Lane before it was renamed, so I put it in as a description of the location. Onco_p53 22:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Most importantly, you left my revisions of the letter-games paragraphs, which I definitely appreciate. As for the long quotation from Book II, I posted here to say "it should prolly go" and heard no objexions. Not that that's so bad: if it took it actually being deleted to get your attention, so be it. I still think a long paragraph describing a location from a previous book is quite silly. The notion about horseradish being the cure for mushrooms is good, but the apple trees and Tedia? There are most unneccesary.--Signor Giuseppe 14:51, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibility of Title being ''The Lousy Lane'' 

message: Unofficialy. Don't look if you don't want to know.
Spoilers!
The back cover is readable here:
Spoilers!
::I'm not sure how official they are. Don't post them on the article (for a start you'll ruin the fun for the rest of us!) smurrayinchester(User), (Talk), (Recent Contrib) 19:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry. I was more talking to other people who would no doubt copy paste straight from the website (probably surrounded by lots of !!!!!!!!!!! and ALLCAPS)smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 14:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Book Title & Cover has been revealed!

message: ... the page will be alot smaller, as the suggested titles will go as will the Evidence section. Anyone got any ideas as to what can be added when title is revealed? Squidward2602 08:50, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  When book title is revealed ... 

message: All of these IP editors seem to be adding lots of random things in a nonsensical and unclear way to this article so I've now added the cleanup tag. It needs a major restructure and a separation of fact, opinion and guessing. --Celestianpower hablamé 22:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  <nowiki>{{cleanup}}</nowiki> 

message: Should the suggested titles be bolded or italisised? I believe not - it makes it messy and cluttered. However, if consensus is to have them bold/italics then I'm fine with it. --Celestianpower hablamé 15:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do they need to Stand out? --Celestianpower hablamé 20:01, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolding/Italics for suggested titles 

message: It was my interpretation that since the building trembled just as she let go, both she and the boat went tumbling to the ground. Unfortunately, she didn't have that nifty sheet thing that Violet did. Besides, it burned to the ground, so she's more than likely dead anyway. I'm not going to change the article unless someone confirms this. -- Doug teh H-Nut
Yes she is dead since pg. 349 says: " With a cry of pain and frustration, Justice Straus let go of the figurehead, and the building trembled again, sending the judge tumbling to the ground........"
Without a doubt, she would have fallen to her death.
Maybe it meant she fell to the the roof? I wrote a story where I used "I fell to the ground" meant that the character fell down, but stayed on the roof.
But that would've been incorrect. If someone is to fall to the ground, they're probably on the actual ground. Otherwise, he would've said something like "and Justice Srauss fell" Othatzsokewl (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justice Strauss is left behind? 

message: Now that all the dust seems to have settled (and I finished the book JUST before getting Handler to sign it on the 22nd, literally, I was in the line at Neuqua Valley High School), shouldn't there be a sentence and a link back to "The Nameless Novel" game that was going for a couple of months? --JohnDBuell | Talk 17:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link back to "The Nameless Novel"? 

message: Sorry, but the section about the plot is a mess. It reads like a bad acid trip. TheMadBaron 05:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: Per the suggestion of some people on #wikipedia, I have proposed that The Nameless Novel be merged into this page. 90% of The Nameless Novel is not encyclopedic, and the remainder could be added to this page in a paragraph. As I know very little about the subject, I will wait to see if anyone else can do this merge before attempting it myself. --Constantine Evans 20:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from The Nameless Novel 

message: This is what Lemony Snicket called them, and this is what they shall be called:
1. The Bad Beginning|
2. The Reptile Room|
3. The Wide Window|
4. The Miserable Mill|
5. The Austere Academy|
6. The Ersatz Elevator|
7. The Vile Village|
8. The Hostile Hospital|
9. The Carnivorous Carnival|
10. The Slippery Slope|
11. The Grim Grotto|
12. The Penultimate Peril|
13. The End
Who's Saying Otherwise? ~HTES
--Count Olaf 09:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  THE PROPER NAMES 

message: Someone might ask Handler, but I think the odd trial where "Justice is blind" and the people in the court are blindfolded may have been influenced Ed Rosenthal trial in San Francisco that ended early in 2003.  Keith Henson 17:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible connection? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ThePenultimatePeril2.JPG

message: When I read it, it was all messed up. It stopped and repeated thirty of the pages I had read up to the page I read then skipped a LOT. I think it may have been a printing error, But I cant tell. 
Count Olaf 
With all do respect,
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Tay Baudelaire
A person.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.12.255 (talk) 01:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book the 12 

message: Do you not think that the part of the book where Handler refers to some poem called the blind men ant he elephant or something like that changing the elephant to a reindeer should be stated in the cultural references ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.222.142 (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What does a reindeer have to do with anything? — the Man in Question (in question) 21:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The blind Men