Talk:Drapht

message: In accordance with WP:Notability (music) Drapht satisfies the notability criteria, in that:
# He has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble 
# He has been on several national tours of Australia 
# He has released two or more albums on a notable indie label (Obese Records).
# He is a prominent representative of a notable style in Perth
# He has been nominated for a major music award (Western Australian Music Awards 2007). 
# He has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio network (Triple J and rage).
:Dan arndt 02:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In short, it appears on the surface that someone looking to promote Obese record artists (either a fan or perhaps someone from the label) has put quite a few articles up with claims of notability (some just barely) with no verifiable references from reliable sources. The whole issue of notabilty for the label and artists becomes circular: "Of course the label's notable—look how many artists have articles. Yes, the artists are notable—their albums are on a notable indie." Precious Roy 09:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't insinuate anything about me unless you know me Precious Roy - I am not going around promoting Obese record artists if you check my contributions - what I am trying to do is expand articles (generally australian music articles) accross the board, instead of going around deleting articles. Dan arndt (talk) 08:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: editing this opening sentence to remove the reference to the label. 
Drapht (born Paul Reid) is an Australian hip hop singer from Perth, Western Australia. Drapht is a member of the Syllaboliks crew, which comprises fellow Australian hip hop artists from Perth and is currently signed to the Obese Records record label.[1]
(1) because "currently signed to.." sounds dated & I think it should have a date. and (2) because drapht left obese in 2010 according to (& linked to The Vine article) the last paragraph, so I think this sentence was probably written a while ago (when he was still on the label) Kathodonnell (talk) 13:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obese label 

message: I'm not sure if the article is meant to have so many quotes by the subject? it appears to be the majority of the article.. I'll try find more references Kathodonnell (talk) 13:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  lots of quotes by the subject? 

message: this was the list of External Links:
*  on Myspace (left this one)
* Drapht at Obese Records website (might put this back, seems promotional, though it has older album info)
* Australia Music Online interview - August 8, 2005 (broken 22/03/2011)
* ABC Radio interview 2006 (broken 22/03/2011)
* Pale Rider interview July 26, 2007 (added as inline reference)
* Breezy Music News - Brothers Grimm Review 2008 (broken 22/03/2011)
most are either broken or, if suitable, should be included as inline references. Kathodonnell (talk) 13:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleaning up External Links 

message: Have to put my hand up and say I am the main culprit for putting too many quotes as opposed to keeping the article encyclopedic in nature, was one of my first substantial attempts at editing. Unfortunately over time weblinks which were valid at the timing of writing often disappear or are renamed - happy to see someone else taking an interest. Dan arndt (talk) 07:07, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: no problems. that explains it. I'm trying for academic type links or archived/library where possible, but I'm sure I'll run out soon as there was (is?) only a few academics writing about these bands/artists. I asked Dominic on his talk page about what are good to use & he pointed me to wp:music (I'm new here so just finding new things). I think a few of them sound a bit promotional & only have promo/PR links so might be at risk of getting deleted, so trying to find references for them. I figure people can read the info/enclclopedic entry here & google them for the contact/promo links so they don't need to be here. thanks for cleaning up after me too! Kathodonnell (talk) 10:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In an effort to rectify past wrongs, I am working on getting his article into better shape, thanks to Kathodonnell's comments & recent edits. Hopefully it can be knocked into at least 'B' status. Dan arndt (talk) 09:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  cool! I don't think you did things wrong in the past. it'd be great to have more of the Aus music articles rated higher. I think with this one a few less quotes from the artist might help with the rating process (at a guess), that's all. :) I'll help out. I went to the conservatorium of music (syd) over the weekend & copied some articles. will check if any have info about this artist. also on my user page I've been making a list of places to find sources (eg some academic studies + others) if they're useful. just need more time now :) Kathodonnell (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Good work

message: Drapht attended Perth Modern School in Subiaco but was not involved in the school's music program. At school he became friends with Damien Allia (aka DJ Armee) 
tidying up this paragraph to remove the quote Kathodonnell (talk) 03:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  school days & introduction to hip hop 

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message: There is currently a dispute going on about whether this guy's named Paul Gary James Ridge or Paul Reid. Some sources are supporting the former but as noted in WP:AIV some others (e.g []) support the latter. I don't know anything about the situation to judge; also, calling  and  here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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