Talk:Ku Klux Klan/Archive 3

message: The article states, "Through sympathetic elected officials, the KKK controlled the governments of Tennessee, Indiana, Oklahoma, and Oregon in addition to those of the Southern Democratic legislatures." I've seen detailed discussions of how Indiana's state government was controlled, for a time, from top to bottom by the Klan. However, the last clause, about "Southern Democratic legislatures," seems way too vague, and I have a hard time believing it. Also, the whole sentence doesn't state the time frames. For instance, IIRC their control of the Indiana state government only lasted for a few years. Can anyone provide more detailed information, and improve the accuracy of this sentence?--Bcrowell 17:10, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: control of state governments

message: 132.241.41.181, could you discuss your edits here? Re the Truman stuff, Truman's friendship with Jacobson wouldn't disqualify him from Klan membership, although it might have created some cognitive dissonance.--Bcrowell 22:21, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 132.241.41.181's edits

message: An anon has been doing the following edit and getting reverted by me and Andrew pmk:
:...rival Klan factions both accused each other's leaders of being FBI informants, and one leader, Bill Wilkinson of the Invisible Empire, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, was in fact later revealed to have been working for the FBI though only when it would hurt rival factions.
The italics are the text the anon has been adding. I don't have Thompson's book checked out of the library right now, so I can't verify this, but in any case, I don't understand why it would be notable. Anon, could you explain?--Bcrowell 04:49, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "though only when it would hurt rival factions"

message: they have been a political and religious group in the past not just a fraternal group.
I feel sorry for those who censor this fact.
:69.111.91.169, if you think that aspect of the article should be changed, let's discuss it. But blanking large portions of the article repeatedly, without explanation, isn't going to help. Unless you can be more persuasive, I'm not convinced there's a problem with the article's lead as it is; just because it says it's fraternal, that's not an implication that it's not political or religious.--Bcrowell 02:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  the klan sucks but guess what? 

message: Materials from this (KKK) article should be merged into TOKKK as needed and the section here (KKK) should be  reduced to a brief summary (not my interest, so I leave it to others). Leonard G. 15:38, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[The original Ku Klux Klan]]

message: We got some good comments in peer review. I'm nominating this to be a featured article now.--Bcrowell 22:59, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: featured article nomination

message: I've deleted this section. It only had one sentence in it ("The Ku Klux Klan is a common reference point for extremism in the arts. It has been featured in British musical theatre, in Jerry Springer - The Opera."), and in the past had acted as a magnet for trivia about movies that just happened to have something about the Klan in them. People had complained that it was weird that it was a single sentence, and in the FA discussion, there was a complaint about the section as well.--Bcrowell 17:36, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: deleted The Ku Klux Klan in the arts

message: All of these Reconstruction era black Senators and Representatives were members of the Republican Party. The Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln and of the Emancipation Proclamation, while the Democrats were the party of slavery and secession. Until 1876, the Republicans made genuine efforts to ensure that southern blacks were able to vote.
After the deal with the southern states that secured the election of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876, however, Republican interest in southern blacks faded, and the white Democrats gradually regained control of the Southern legislatures and restricted the rights of blacks to vote. The last black Congressman elected from the South was George W. White of North Carolina, elected in 1897. After his term expired in 1901, there were no blacks in the Congress for 28 years.
:These are general statements about Reconstruction, not about the Ku Klux Klan. Readers who need more background on Reconstruction can click on the wikilinks to that article.--Bcrowell 04:01, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  where should this go?