Talk:Catholic Church and ecumenism

message: I have replaced the picture of the Pope and Patriarch with the most recent one from the papal visit to the Ecumenical Patriarchate. In the previous picture, it was not Bertholomew, as far as i can see. Hectorian 20:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: The Catholic Church does not use the term Catholic to describe other churches.  It recognizes apostolic succession or doesnt.  Whether a church is 'catholic' or not is an Anglican preoccupation based on the Anglo-Catholic/evangelical controversies. As the sentence describes a judgment of the Catholic Church, it is inaccurate and needs to be removed.129.74.228.121 16:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This reflects a very limited world view. The Eastern Orthodox Church refers to itself, exclusively, as the Catholic Church as defned in the Nicene Creed and the Holy Fathers. Rome is free to use the term "Catholic" to refer to itself when speaking within the context of its own theology--just as the Orthodox and Anglicans are free to do the same--but expropriating the term "Catholic" to refer only to those who are in communion with the Bishop of Rome in a non-sectarian, encyclopedic context is not NPOV. The tite of this article should be changed to "Roman Catholic Church and ecumenism". I would have no objection to the title remaining as it is if Wikipedia were a Roman Catholic publication, but it is inappropriate here. MishaPan (talk) 19:00, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, this has been talked to death. The Catholic Church is the official name of the Church, not "Roman Catholic Church", punto, basta. That does not make it NPOV, it still recognizes catholicity in other Churches, but the bottom line is it is never correct, and always an NPOV violation, to insist that the Catholic Church be called "Roman" Catholic. 15:25, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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I've just read this text of Inatious, and could not conciliate it with the catholic ecumenism. Could any catholic friend give some insight? Thanks. []'s —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mauro do Carmo (talk • contribs) 02:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: HHMMM It seems to me that there is only one reason to mentions this.  Now we all know what that is.  In case you don't then I will explain.  Only an enemy of Christ and his Church would mention this because he thinks that it will hurt the Chruch's image and reputaion with others not in the Church and cause some who are in the Church to leave and thus suffer consequenses that those of us in the Church believe that they will suffer.  Therefore it is clear that by mention of the quote above, the person quoting would not in any context truely want an explanation or any dialog but would instead enter into any such discussion with ill will and mal intent.  Thus I for one find myself feeling that taking the advice of the quote may actually be the simplist course of action so that I am not needlessly bothered by such a person and instead leave then to the help of Christ.--Billiot 17:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans 

message: As the text mentions, I suspect that the present regime at the Vatican is uncomfortable about Pope Paul VI's description of the Anglican Church. In addition I'm aware that of late high ranking elements in the RC Church have declared that the Anglican church, along with other Protestant denominations, is not a church at all but a mere "ecclesial community". But I am not sure how official this line is, not where it came from. I have a feeling that it might be a statement of the (hard line) former Cardinal Ratzinger. Can anyone help on this? Millbanks 07:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Beloved Sister Church

message: There has been a lot of news recently about the meeting between the orthodox and the Catholic in Italy.  I read one article that said the pope called it a great step forward.  There seems to be some issue about the use of the word Protos for the Pope.  There is another issue about the Russian delegation walking out, not because of an arguement with the Vatican but because of an internal arguement among the orthodox.  The article said something about the Church of Estonia.  The Pope wants to call an extra ordinary council of all cardinals to look over the agreements reached that will be held on Nov. 23.  At any rate, this all seem like a big deal, it is all over the news and it seems to me that someone should get some facts and put something about it here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.127.251.137 (talk) 06:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent meetings

message: I got some news that the Patriarch Catholicos of Armenia visited Rome and there were reports of "great progress" on issues that concern the reunion of the Churches.  I do not know how this affects the Armenian Catholic Church but seeing as how the Armenian Apostolic Church and the Armenian Catholic Church were never the same Church, they are not in schism with each other and everything should be ok, except for the Armenian See of Cilicia, which formed from break away bishops who renounced the decision by their Church leadership to rejoin Rome and establish the  Armenian Catholic Church.  This See of Cilicia is in communion with the Armenian Apostolic Church but there are tentions.  I can not predict how this all is effected of course.  
At any rate, big meeting between the Pope and the Catholicos.  Reports of "great progress" and something about a preposition in a Christological statement that I don't understand very well.  I got the info from the Vatican Information Service.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.47.45.197 (talk) 13:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Armenian Catholicos Visits Rome

message: Does anyone feel this article is complete enough or even close to properly cited to merit the new B class? -- Secisek (talk) 07:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Class C

message: Some have suggested that the very tolerant policy adopted towards ecumenism partly explains the large number of people in the list of former Roman Catholics. One study estimates that 10.1% of people in the United States describe themselves as former Catholics in some sense. Although a small majority converted to another religion a substantial minority of them are counted as currently unaffiliated. ADM (talk) 20:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: User:ADM has removed larges sections of material on Anglicanism from this page without prior discussion.  I have returned them.  Please discuss this here and not start a revert war.--EastmeetsWest (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't re-add information that is already present in Anglican-Roman Catholic dialogue into the Catholic Church and ecumenism. Copying material back often undermines the legitimacy of separate entries devoted to specific subjects matters. Having it written once is already enough, per Occam's razor. ADM (talk) 23:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was asking you to discuss, not the opposite. Why didn't you agree with the content move ? ADM (talk) 00:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return of larges sections previously removed without prior discussion 

message: I cleaned up a little the documents list. There were some included that did not relate to ecumenism so much as religious freedom or interreligious dialogue, such as Nostra Aetate, Dignitatis Humanae, Quanta Cura, and the Syllabus of Errors. Several were missing. Aside from those that have been elevated to official Catholic Church documents, like the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification, i thought it made more sense to include official dialogue reports and declarations under the relevant topic. e.g., the Balamand Statement moved to the section on relations with the Orthodox. Protoclete (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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