Talk:Heaven & Hell (band)

message: I removed the sentence “Meanwhile Iommi and Butler looked forward to a continuation with the original line up of Black Sabbath”, because it is speculative: Iommi and Butler have not, at least since Heaven and Hell is recording and touring, expressed a desire to do new work with the original line-up of Black Sabbath. Such a continuation may very well happen in the future, but until any plans are announced, there is no reason to try to imagine what Iommi and Butler may or may not think, beyond what they say themselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nunoni (talk • contribs) 10:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the statement should be referenced (or at the minimum defended on this talk page).  I will mark it . I noticed that you removed it this morning and saw your rationale on this page, and was suprised that it was put back. J04n (talk) 18:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

text: And again, it is written "Because of the projected continuation of the band's original lineup (Iommi, Butler, Osbourne and Bill Ward)". There is no such projected continuation, what there is is a lawsuit. I removed the sentence. Whoever continues to promote wishful thinking needs to come up with references. (Nunoni (talk) 11:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is/was nothing speculative about Iommi's statement when he made it. And no offical announcement has ever been put forward by any Black Sabbath member to say otherwise. Speculative is thinking that there won't ever be a future project. In 1980 both camps said they would never work together again.. and that proved wrong. So until an official announcement of disbandment is made there cannot be any guessing as to what the future will hold for them. Peter Fleet (talk) 17:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

text:  "Projected" means there is a project. Where is this project, which record, which tour, which what, relating to the Black Sabbath line-up? No one quesitons what "Black Sabbath line-up" means, there's only one right now. What is questioned is this "Projected continuation". Iommi's statements say nothing about this. Furthermore, the only statements as to why the band has called themselves Heaven and Hell, mentioned "to avoid confusion with the original  line-up". There has been no statement regarding a "project" with the original line-up. This topic is on Heaven and Hell, not on Black Sabbath, so if you wish to discuss projects for Black Sabbath do it in the Black Sabbath topic. Here, either come up with a reference to show that the name was chosen to be Heaven and Hell because because of any Black Sabbath project, or stop trolling. (193.136.74.102 (Nunoni (talk) 10:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nunoni, I agree with most of what you are saying except the bit about "to avoid confusion with the original line-up", there is a quote somewhere from Tony that I will find and provide that basically said, and I'm paraphrasing, "we don't want the fans to come expecting to here Iron Man".  The reason really was to avoid the confusion. However, I do agree that it is appropriate to drop "projected continuation" until and unless a future tour or album is announced.  J04n(talk page) 20:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't the ref I was looking for but it does have Tony saying that he did it so as not to confuse the fans. J04n(talk page) 00:32, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  continuation of original line-up of Black Sabbath 

message: Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Black_Sabbath#Heaven_.26_Hell_is_Black_Sabbath  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.148.187 (talk) 19:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion has been revived here. Charles Essie (talk) 16:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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