Talk:Zelenograd

message: The coordinates of Russian cities are the coordinates of their main post offices. The Zelenograd main post office is quartered at corpus 1106 (1106D). See also Web-site of Zelenograd main post office . The accurate coordinates of building had taken from Google Maps. Alex Spade 19:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: Связанный вопрос: что за конструкция City of Zelenograd Administrative Okrug (в статье Kryukovo)? Почему не просто Zelenograd Administrative Okrug (Зеленоградский АО) или City of Zelenograd (Город Зеленоград), ибо обратный перевод на русский в первом приближении даёт Город Зеленоградского административного округа. Alex Spade 10:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: С остальным, как я понимаю, вопросов больше нет?  Что касается данной конкретной конструкции, то она довольно стандартна: "город Владивосток" = "city of Vladivostok", "город Нью-Йорк" = "city of New York"; соответственно "[Г|г]ород Зеленоград" = "[C|c]ity of Zelenograd".  Далее эта конструкция используется в качестве определителя существительного; отсюда и "City of Zelenograd Administrative Okrug" (cf. "City of New York area", p. 5-3).  Могу согласиться, что перевести назад её можно неоднозначно, но фактически это гораздо более правильно нежели текущая конструкция "a district of the city of Zelenograd in the Administrative Okrug of Moscow" (Зеленоград — не город; какой именно административный округ непонятно; район — подразделение округа, а не несуществующего города).  В общем, как бы оно ни было, а улучшить дальше всегда можно :)  —Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Вопросы по той части ещё есть - но там я пока сам покопаюсь, но есть другие. Alex Spade 16:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  Конструкцию как, вы могли заменить, я всё же упростил до стандартной Zelenograd Administrative Okrug - ибо ваш варинат встречается только в Википедии и её клонах. Alex Spade 13:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Конструкция ''City of Zelenograd Administrative Okrug''

message: About this: I think we should mention the company because its product is a certified a world record (worlds smallest professional audio recorder). We do not have many articles about companies based in Zelenograd, and Telesystems (company) would be a good example. It is important to mention at least some Zelenograd-based companies in the article text. Nanobear (talk) 17:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The existence of article doesn't make company significant for city. Why Telesystems is good example compared with GFI Russia or ArVid? Telesystems is not even included in List of main city enterprises. The many other redlink Zelenograd companies (in addition to Angstrem (company)) can be mentioned prior Telesystems. The links to uncreated page are not deprecated. Alex Spade (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Telesystems products are sold in over 20 countries. The same cannot be said about ArVid or GFI Russia. Not many Russian consumer electronics products are sold worldwide. This, I believe, makes Telesystems a notable company Russia-wide, not just in Zelenograd. More info here. Nanobear (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  And? The number of consumer countries doesn't make company significant for city. GFI Russia is enough known worldwidely (see respective games on Amazon.com). ArVid is enough known word-widely as notable solution in the computer history. Alex Spade (talk) 08:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telesystems