Talk:HMS Canopus (1897)

message: The disambiguation page on Canopus (disambiguation) refers to two RN ships of this name. Where is the second?  Mark O'Sullivan 15:17, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The HMS Canopus article was added on 13 August 2005 with this information. -- Curps 14:25, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Canopus

message: The article correctly gives HMS Canopus credit for causing Sharnhorst and Gneisenau to retreat, correctly suggests that the Germans would have won a stunning victory had they continued, and correctly says that the shell richoched.  
In my opinion it achieved an absolute miracle. It could even be claimed to have had an effect on both world wars as Churchill's reputation might have been irreparably damaged by sucessive disasters in the opening months of the war.
Could a line "A live shell could not have achieved this as it would probably have exploded before hitting Gneisenau." be added?
This is my first post, I hope I've not broken any rules or caused too much offence!
--JRPG 22:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: SMS Scharnhorst and SMS Gneisenau of 1914 were not the powerhouses of WWII.  Sturdee's battlecruisers outclassed them in guns (12" versus 8.2") and speed (25 kt vs 22 kt) so it's hard to see any other outcome.96.54.53.165 (talk) 00:47, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is possibly a useful source. I have seen a much better article -I wish I knew where -which suggests that the battlecruisers were without power during coaling and virtually defenceless as their guns couldn't fire and their armour was comparable with their opponents.  It went on to say Graf Spee could have achieved a famous victory had he continued. JRPG (talk) 15:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance of Canopus's hit on Gneisenau

message: Greetings, my first wiki talk-post.
The general characteristics section shows HMS Canopus' top speed to be 18 knots, typical for pre-dreadnought battleships and in agreement with http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/pre-dreadnought/hms-canopus.html.
In the article however, it is stated: "Canopus 's slow maximum speed of only 12 knots (22 km/h) meant that she was 300 miles (500 km) south of the rest of Cradock's squadron..."
The article does not clarify why the speed is 12 knots, far less than the design's specified maximum speed.
I am assuming that the value of 12 knots may have been derived from the distance and coal consumption, under the understanding that a ship burns less coal traveling a given distance if it moves at a slower speed, and therefore to save coal, a ship generally did not approach maximum speed unless in battle. Anyways, I could be wrong (engine troubles? maintanance issues?) and I would love it if the article clearly stated the reason for 12 knots, whatever that reason may be.
Tank 7 (talk) 17:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canopus' Top Speed. 

message: I'd like to review the date stated that HMS Canopus set sail from the Abrolhos Rocks.  I am actually reviewing the actual ship logs and she doesn't set sail until October 8 1914.  I'm reading these as part of the "Old Weather" project and am uncertain how to cite this source.
Beto0707 (talk) 23:26, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Set Sail Date from Abrolhos Rocks 

message: I have doubts that the armour of the Canopus is correctly described. I would follow Pears:British Battleships 1892-1957,p.20; where is stated that only the last ship, HMS Vengeance, had Krupp armour. From timescale, knowledge on other types I think Pears is correct.Looking at the article I added a bit to the introduction--erb. 09:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Type of Armour 

message: When Sturdee already arrived on 7 December with the intention to sortie on 9 December, how could the germans then have spotted the tripodmasts of Sturdee´s arriving battlecruisers on 8 December ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Lovecraft (talk • contribs) 09:57, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not clear to me what you're asking. Sturdee's battlecruisers were in Stanley on the 8th, making preparations to leave the next morning. Spee's ships spotted their masts when they arrived the morning of the 8th. What exactly is the problem? Parsecboy (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sturdee