Talk:Yule Marble

message: Article has been kept following this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD 2005

message: 13 photos have been added of which 12 are from the collection of the Marble Historical Society OneHistoryGuy (talk) 07:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  13 photographs added 

message: After a post by Balloonman, I looked over my use of step-outline with bold and found I can change most (but not all) to narrative.  Some have been changed  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 09:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Completed removal of outline step-in OneHistoryGuy (talk) 20:14, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing step- outlines and some "Bold 

message: I asked if any editor is following this article to conduct an edit review  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 19:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite is complete 

message: Is it a WP:Orphan?  Not literally an orphan, but not real well linked, either.
Can we think of more links internally and in other articles?   7&6=thirteen (☎) 04:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I will give some more thought what linkage can be made.  I did search for names of people and nearby towns finding a few wiki articles that I did link to.  I avoided wiki links to countries and even cities for they are to broad in scope.   Maybe there is something in geology type articles.  I can add some more buildings using Yule marble throughout the article but first I need to find if there is a wiki article.  I will then place a wiki link in the building to yule marble.  Yule marble is a narrow subject.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OneHistoryGuy (talk • contribs) 01:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We need linkage.  (Pardon me for being an officious intermeddler).  One of the greatest things about Wikipedia is the links.  We are part of a much greater work, and need to connect to and from it.  This will increase traffic, and make all of this a better experience for the [knowledgable] readers.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your are not intermeddler at all.  Still new to this aspect, I welcome and need the help. I don't have a good feel where in the article to make more wiki links.  So please make what ever wiki links you feel are needed. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 05:28, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I did this very crudely. Just put it in the "See also" section of a lot of buildings.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:30, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: How well linked is this article?

message: Could you add ID's to the caption for the features labeled 1, 2 & 3? Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 05:54, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Caption added.  There are the three producing quarries OneHistoryGuy (talk) 01:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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message: I noted in the Tennessee marble is had several sections.  Maybe this should be added here.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the idea and I will create a table of them by state.  There are 111 known structures.  Should I include all 111?  I do have a link to the list I placed in Commons  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 01:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no limit.  Maybe just the more important ones (and by important, I include all the ones that have Wikipedia articles).  If it doesn't have an article, it certainly needs a reference, and even if it has an article, a reference that says it's "Yule Marble" would be good.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will include the 111 buildings as section article.  I have the dates when the structures went up and if they still exist. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 05:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Edifices where the marble was used

message: When I googled Yule Marble, I got a lot of pictures of sculptures.  Obviously, there are a lot of sculptors who have found this material to fit their needs and inspire their creation.  Materials can affect the creative processes, and make the juices flow.  This is a whole 'nother dimension to the mine.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Marble of Institute of Colorado holds an annual marble carver symposium, in Marble.  There is also a website, Franciscos (?) with carving done with Yule marble.  I can come up with some others but these are commercial businesses.  Are websites that sell Yule marble sculptures permissible? OneHistoryGuy (talk) 05:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sculptural use

message: My internet searching links are being redirected and I have not been able to remove the redirect code.  Taking the computer into the shop Monday morning OneHistoryGuy (talk) 05:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a trojan or virus.  When I've encountered something really persistent like that, I have found use of Norton GoBack (if it is still available, and will work on your operating system) to be a good route.  That won't help you now, but it might in the future.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:11, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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message: Thatcher Memorial - Denver, COin Smithsonian Art Inventory SculpturesPosted by: Outspoken1N 39° 44.691 W 104° 57.41013S E 503698 N 4399439Quick Description: Impressive  Is this it?   7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: for the record - or perhaps this is better said off the record, I am about 2/3 way through writing an article on the Thatcher Memorial.  This is a bit more good info to use.  Thanks all.  Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 03:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: However I just searched the Waymarking link and the SIRIS link and found no mention of Yule Marble.  Any other ideas?  Carptrash (talk) 03:12, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say that that Thatcher waymarking page said anything about Yule Marble.  I was simply trying to identify a site that shed some light on the possible identification of the listing.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:48, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The link at the top is the the Thatcher structure, which a a marble burial vault.  I do have a photograph that I will upload OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

text: The link at the top IS NOT the Thatcher item in the article list (fumble fingers on the keyboard).  Thatcher structure is a burial vault.  I will upload a photo  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Thatcher Memorial

message: Looking through the section on Nebraska structures using Yule marble, I find the I.O.O.F. Building in "Broken Arrow, Nebraska".  To the best of my knowledge, there is no Broken Arrow in Nebraska.  There is, however, Broken Bow, Nebraska; and that city has an Odd Fellows hall, now the Tiffany Theater, whose exterior appears to be mostly brick but might incorporate some marble (it's hard for me to tell from the photos).  Unfortunately, "Broken Arrow" is what's given on the Perazzo website, so I'm loath to make a correction that comes close to being OR.  Is there another source, e.g. McCollum, that might be used to check and correct this?  Ammodramus (talk) 15:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Broken Bow is the correct location.  I have had telephone conversation with the president of the bank in Broken Bow who owns the building and he said there is marble on the inside.  I know this does not meet the Wiki standard of verify.  This is where I am lost in the wiki editing as well as formating an citation.  I am glad that others who know what needs to be done are doing so.  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:43, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

text: The converstion was back in April 2001.  Prior, I talked with a surviving member of IOOF about the building OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken what? 

message: Not a good source, but this flickr page could very well be the building. It has the look. Not adding this to the article, but am providing it as a 'crumb on the trail' to uncovering the building. It has an address.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a photo of the building but I do not have the right to post it.  I acquired the photo from an email inquiry back in April-May of 2011.  At this time I was building a display for the museum showing the structures where the marble can be found.  I have a computer mapping program where I made an almost 4 foot wide map of the US.  I then plotted on the map the known locations.  I then placed around the map photos that I was able to scour from the websites, museums, historical societies, library etc.  I still have the email of the guy who sent the photo.  I think I have the address of the building for I used google map and found it this way also. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

text: "Cambridge" is etched into stone above the entry OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

text: The building in the flickr link is not the Cambrdige building that I was provided a photo of or with google map.  The entrance faces the corner. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

text: Cambridge building is at 1270 Broadway, on the corner with west 33rd street.  A Radisson Hotel is adjacent.OneHistoryGuy (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 06:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cambridge Building New York

message: about Yule marble in the Cathedral Basilica of the Immaculate Conception, Denver article.  I am trying to get a stub going about the rather obscure Detroit architect who designed (any Michigander reading this can arise to the challenge and beat me to it) it, but noticed that the article mentions three different kinds of stone used, none our beloved Yule.  So . . . ............?  Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The basic sources on yule marble structures do mention it. Too bad the other sources didn't pick up on it. Sigh.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:52, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The use here might be similar to the font (baptism bowl-stand)that is now in Saint Barnabus Episcopal Chuch, in Glenwood Springs.  Just some small items that are not part of the physical structure.  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  there is a loud silence 

message: I have been reworking the article from the end back up to the beginning.  The majority has been rewriting paragraph opening and closing sentences, some sentence structures in general, reference formats, moving most table data into thumbnail captions or section text (and deleting the tables), section header wording, removing use of bold.
Some sections have been greatly expanded with new text (1884-1905 quarrying, Lincoln Memorial, and Tomb of the Unknowns). OneHistoryGuy (talk) 07:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, OneHistoryGuy-- you've certainly been diligent with this article. I tried to tiptoe through some minor editing changes and got as far as the first table. I hope I didn't mess up anything significant. If you're okay with what I'm doing, I'll be back to look at the rest. I capitalized both words in proper geologic names (like Yule Marble, Leadville Limestone), and we need to continue that, I think. Also, the entire article needs units converted to metric. There's a simple code for this, but I'll have to dig it out. Meanwhile, keep up the good work! --Araucana (talk) 15:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi Araucana.  I like your editing changes for they improved the quality the article.  So please come back and continue.  I am an expert on the subject (not so much the geology) for content but my writing is lacking to reach the desired quality level. My objective is a top-notch article. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 20:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reworking the entire article 

message: Some conversions were made without a  function to retain prefered format.  Also did not find a  from short ton to metric ton.  I found  functions in different articles.  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 01:36, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  completed conversion to metric 

message: to check the article against improvement recommended by Ruhrfisch.  Pete Tillman found the review Ruhrfisch made with the article was submitted for rating back somewhere at the end of November-early December 2011  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 05:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Review completed and almost every recommendation was incorporated.  No existing articles can be modeled because Yule Marble has an extreemly limited geology and the majority of article data is other than geology.  (The content structured itself).  Retained the use of "present" instead of specifying "2011" for in this specific article "present" will not become obsolete as the use of "2011" will. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 03:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  going through Ruhrfisch peer reivew  

message: The change by Clegs was undone because it was erroneous.  The information about the last post 1945 resident in Marble came from the source "Vignettes", by Oscar McCollum, who also wrote the other cited book "Marble. a town built on dreams."
The other change I undid is more troubling.  The editor removed the distance and elevation data from a photo caption because he/she did not see the purpose.  Such data is part of the overall article approach of specifics.  What troubles me is the editor did so on opinion, never claiming the data was a negative inclusion.  If the data diminished the photo caption or the article I would agree with the change.  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 21:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought the GPS coordinates were useful. E.g, one could look at this location on google earth.  That one editor "sees no purpose" does not limit its utility to other editors and readers, and is hardly dispositive.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please pardon my edit. I in no way meant to cause harm to you or the article. Sometimes too much extra chatter is included with Images...not saying that is the case here. I apoligize for my quick finger. ```Buster Seven Talk 21:47, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No harm taken and did not mean to infer any.  What I should have added to the "troubling" is I have seen other articles that become an endless edit of one item here by one editor then someone else one item over there.  I do not want this to happen here.  There have been many edits over the last several weeks for grammar and format which I welcome for I would like to get the article ready for another rating review.OneHistoryGuy (talk) 04:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  My undo 

message: I rewrote the article with the serious researcher in mind (ref Wiki grade scale), which is why I included content of such depth and scope.  I believe it is better to have excessive details in one location rather than general information for which you must go to other sources.  This belief is from my personal experiences. OneHistoryGuy (talk) 04:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  restatement of article content 

message: Seems the long quote from the USGS should be rewritten rather than just plunked in as a quote. Also the sentence: The non-calcite inclusions were caused through penetrations along the seams created by the dome uplift rather than through metamorphic contact with the uplifted dome. needs clarifying. Were the "inclusions" the result of quartz vein injections or segregations / migration of impurities in the limestone or accumulations along pre-existing bedding planes in the limestone? Guess I need to read the USGS report. 
Also the timeline contains some rather irrelevant entries and the 24 hour clock columns seem irrelevant - especially considering the "serious researcher" comment above. Vsmith (talk) 16:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The USGS quote has problems. It contains links including piped links, it omits Harvard ref tags, it provides metric conversions not in the original and has re-arranged content. If it is a quote there should be no modifications. Vsmith (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Rewrote the troublesome quote material and added / fixed a bit in the following paragraph. Vsmith (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for replacing the USGS extract with your rewrite.  A vast improvement.  Such a rewrite was beyond my knowledge, which is why I originally included the USGS section as a quote.  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 03:14, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Geology

message: 7&6=thirteen (☎) requested a GA review at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geology/Assessment#Requests for assessment. Is that the consensus here? RockMagnetist (talk) 06:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: A density of 76 kilos per cubic metre would mean that this would be excellent material for floating platforms, or flotation devices in ships, lifebelts and so forth. However as cubic metres are rather larger than cubic feet I'm guessing that the conversion was incomplete and it should be closer to 2,500 which is around 90% of the weight of pure Calcite. A referenced weight would be appreciated, in the meantime I'll move the figure to something that fits a bit better. ϢereSpielChequers 08:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just use convert: . Vsmith (talk) 09:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks ϢereSpielChequers 20:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Are you sure this stuff floats?

message: I looked at the article rating and saw the Objective rating is 3 (based on three reviews) which displays as "minimal bias".  Can someone point out where bias exists?  OneHistoryGuy (talk) 06:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: User ratings are by and large low. There is no bias, but this is typical of article ratings.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the bias? 

message: I know that Yule Marble was used in a "43 story building" in Detroit according to the sources in that article. I tried to find in vain a 40 story builing in Detroit.  However, today I happened to be in downtown Detroit, and looked up this building in wikipedia.  This building is 37 stories above ground, and 3 stories below, the timing is right, as is the size of the building, along with the description of materials.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:44, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, our article says "43 story".  I have not been able to figure out the name of that building, based on that description.  It isn't listed in List of tallest buildings in Detroit. In the relevant time frame, the only other 40 story building is Cadillac Tower.7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: David Stott Building?  7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:54, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Yule Marble]] and [[David Stott Building]] and [[Cadillac Tower]]

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