Wikipedia talk:Suggestions for disambiguation repair

message: There is a need for a disambiguation page for Tichborne This is listed as a town in England, however there is also a town in New South Wales, Australia, with that name. There is a surname Tichborne. A number of notable historical Tichbornes are mentioned elsewhere in Wikipedia, and many descendants living all over the world have that name.
Can someone help? I'm sorry that I don't have the skills to create a disambiguation page.
Cheers,
Atichborne 00:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. The Tichborne Case and Tichborne Dole are also quite interesting. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tichborne disambiguation page needed 

message: Would it be possible to produce a listing of articles named "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)" which are not linked, either directly or via a dab page, from the article at "Firstname Lastname"?
There are three situations which would be OK:
# article at "Firstname Lastname" links to "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)", usually in a hatnote
# article at "Firstname Lastname" links to "Firstname Lastname (disambiguation)", which includes "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)"
# article at "Firstname Lastname" is itself a dab page which includes "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)"
But in rummaging around looking for extra people to include in dab pages along with the ones named in this project, I've several times found people with article title "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)" who aren't included in the appropriate dab pages or links. Some of our fellow-editors out there don't seem to have worked out how it all works. Sometimes two people have been given distinguishers nicely, but there's no page at the main name: yes, all the links from existing pages have been tidied to point to the right one of the two, but a reader looking for the name (or an editor about to create a new page for one of them!), will just type the name and find nothing.  OK, so the "search" will often throw up the relevant answers, but it's not pretty.
So, there's a suggestion to add another tranche of work for this tidying-up project. I think it's just as important as clearing up all these people with middle initials, many of whom seem to be automatically generated from databases of U.S. office-holders.  The pages with (distinguishers) have all been handcrafted (as far as I know!) - someone out there is interested enough to create a page for that individual and distinguish him or her from another similarly-named person! 
This could perhaps also usefully extend to any articles with distinguishers in brackets - they should presumably all be linked from the undistinguished part of the title, in one of three ways listed above.  I've done a bit recently with the various "Grand theatre" and "Grand hotel" entries - all good fun, lots to sort out - but there must be vast numbers of topics out there where the dab page doesn't include all the various "(novel)", "(Brighton)" or other bracketed versions of a title. Plenty to go on. PamD (talk) 13:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS I've just now found an entry in the lists which is indeed of this type (Peter Davison (poet)) - but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen one before!  Are they such a tiny minority? I'd welcome a chance to work on them as a priority, if it was easy to split them off into a separate list in future. PamD (talk) 15:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  dabs needed for names with distinguishers in brackets - "Firstname Lastname (distinguisher)" 

message: We've finished Batch 2!  Well done, all of us. PamD (talk) 20:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What next? 

message: (not sure if this is the right place, but you can tell me where to go if not)
Wali and Wāli appear to need disambiguation.  The Wali (= "friend") article has a disambig link to Wāli (= "governor"), but not vice versa, and the majority of the uses I find in a search that refer to a governor and should therefor link to Wāli are actually linked to Wali. Agricolae (talk) 23:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've copied this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation.  --Tesscass (talk) 18:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation needed: [[Wali]]/[[Wāli]] 

message: Although I have time nor experience to create such a page it would be a good idea to create a disambiguous page for Spiegelberg, one directing to the town in Germany and the other to Herbert Spiegelberg, the philosopher. The latter is not findable using the wikipedia 'go' search, because the town page shows up
--85.145.121.149 (talk) 12:02, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Spiegelberg (surname) created and linked from Spiegelberg. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:44, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spiegelberg disambiguation 

message: Presently, if one searches for the composer John Callcott, one is directed to the painter John Callcott Horsley. Could a disambiguation page be created, please?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucubratio (talk • contribs) 08:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorted out with hatnotes and redirects. PamD (talk) 08:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation for John Callcott 

message: Whenever this batch is done, the next batch will include the following:
* Sports players and politicians, just because there are a lot of them.
* Librarians, in honor of PamD
* Scifi authors, in honor of TessCass
* Paralympians and Medal of Honor recipients, in honor of jwilber
* Air Force generals, in honor of Mukk
* U.S. federal judges, in honor of Polbot
* miscellaneous other people
If you contribute to this project, and have a suggestion for a category to cover "in your honor", just let me know! – Quadell (talk) 02:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and American computer scientists, in honor of Hqb. Thanks, all! – Quadell (talk) 23:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  For the next batch... 

message: Had a go at the pair on offer (Brian/Brien Taylor and McMahon) - not sure what's the best technique!  Raises the interesting question of lots of other groups of names which might, or might not, need to be disambiguated together.  I tend to include Peter/Pete, Michael/Mike(/Mick/Mickey/Micky), David/Dave, James/Jim/Jimmy, Robert/Bob, William/Bill/Billy/Will ... somehow it's almost always male names, though I suppose if I was disambiguating a Pam I'd look for Pamelas!  Anne/Ann?  Susan/Sue/Susie/Suzy?  Sometime an integrated dab page, sometimes "See also" links to variant names (articles or dab pages).  Not sure how far to go, not sure if there are appropriate guidelines anywhere! PamD (talk) 21:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: * The Geoff Smith variants seem very well catered for by dab pages and linking SAs already, as an example. PamD (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I think that covers most of the possibilities! We need to establish in which of these cases we ought to have hatnotes pointing elsewhere, and how to make sure that the dab pages are all comprehensive - or, how comprehensive they should be.  And should those be "For", or "See also" or "Distinguish"? And can we do this with the help of a Bot, or as an AWB project? Etc.  Got to go, but these are some overnight thoughts! PamD (talk) 08:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  nicknames 

message: Sturdivant is presently a redirect to Ephraim Sturdivant but there are also, at least, the following:
*Tom Sturdivant (a just-deceased former Yankee star, certainly better known than Ephraim--5700 Google hits to 238 for Ephraim)
*Sturdivant, Missouri 
*Sturdivant Gang (111 Google hits)
*and perhaps Kaira Sturdivant Rouda
Thank you. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, done. – Quadell (talk) 12:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sturdivant 

message: The suggestions this time have been very comprehensive, and will improve a lot of pages. Most of what's left now is redirects, which people obviously feel less strongly about changing. However, at the present rate and with the present amount of users working on it, it will take several months to complete the As. For the next batch, it might be worth limiting the scope of the suggestions, just so that the most important issues get sorted, such as adding missing entries. I hate to say it, as the bot is great as it is, but there are so many disambiguation pages which need repair that we should think about prioritising, unless we can get some more editors on board. Personally, I would like to see a hndis page of suggestions, but just because that's the area I usually work on and I'd therefore be more motivated to complete these. What do people think? Boleyn2 (talk) 16:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's no problem. I could certainly limit the Bs to suggestions and such. – Quadell (talk) 16:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd agree: I'd like us to concentrate on the missing items (where Foo (whatnot) isn't linked fromFoo or Foo (disambiguation)).  Redirects, pipings, excessive bluelinks, are trivial in comparison.  I've had other stuff going on recently and haven't spent much time on this... in fact I keep promising myself to spend less time on Wikipedia, so might not contribute a whole lot to this useful project, but will pick up the odd page or two from time to time. PamD (talk) 21:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The latest batch

message: I'm wondering what to do about partial disambiguations - like Antoniadi (crater) which doesn't appear in Antoniadi (disambiguation) but is actually a partial disambiguation page.  The two items listed in it do appear in the main dab page.  My inclination is to leave it alone... but then it will crop up in any future iterations of this listing. I've encountered one or two similar cases before, can't remember just what I did with them, but wondered what we ought to do: is there any way to flag up a non-problem so it doesn't get listed next time round? PamD (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the recommended practice is to redirect it to the main disambiguation and tag the redirect with . If the main disambiguation is lengthy and has sections, the redirect could target a section. older ≠ wiser 23:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partial disambiguations 

message: There are now at least four different articles and a redirect page for different men named Barry Wood:
*Barry Wood with redirect page Barry Wood (cricketer)
*Barry Wood (football)
*Barry Wood (interior designer)
*Barry Wood (singer)
Currently there is just a hatnote at Barry Wood.  Now that there are three other articles, the hatnote seems unwieldy; perhaps a disambiguation page would be preferable?
Thank you,--Arxiloxos (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Barry Wood (disambiguation) -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barry Wood 

message: Hi, the list included Ballymore (Cork) as a "does not include", but in fact this is a redirect to Ballymore, County Cork which is there OK. I wonder if the program could exclude cases like this where the item is a redirect to another term which was already in the dab page? In this case the redirect is from a malformed heading (shouldn't have had brackets for a placename), so perhaps this is what's confused the bot? Thought it worth a mention, anyway! Cheers, PamD (talk) 10:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ballymore 

message: Well, I've now got to the end of the "B" pages, adding all the "Does not include..." entries and doing occasional other bits of cleanup en route.  I'm not sure whether I've gone through all the As - had a quick look at the last one and picked up Azul, so I guess not. About to take a wikibreak anyway - when I get back I'll scan through the rest of the As to see what there is that Boleyn and I haven't already added (we seem to be the only two working on this).  I'm happy to leave pipes and redirects, as the reader at least gets offered a route to the info - missing items just seem an order of magnitude more important. There are some interesting distractions on the way, into cleaning up some lovely messes and muddles - did an overdue merge of Blue (1970s band) and Blue (Scottish band) just today. Cheers, PamD (talk) 07:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just done A3 and A4. PamD (talk) 11:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Well done, us!  I too feel that the missing entries are the ones worth going for ... piped links and redirects are cosmetic issues, and the reader will find the article OK, while missing links mean articles won't be found by readers, or by editors about to create duplicate articles! PamD (talk) 07:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progress 

message: Hi, 
My name is Tony Wilson and I am in wikipedia as Tony Wilson (radio presenter). My main focus now is writing, so I'd probably prefer to be Tony Wilson (author /radio presenter) but that is by the by. 
What I'm wondering is if there can be a disambiguation for my page and that of the main Tony Wilson, Anthony Harold Wilson who founded Factory records? At the moment, a Tony Wilson search takes people only to him. 
I had a go at reading the page on disambiguatoon, but as a wiki newbie, found it all too daunting. 
cheers 
tony  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.63.36.111 (talk) 04:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony Wilson disambiguation 

message: The number of false alarms would be reduced a lot if the bot reported
:A pipes as B
only in cases where A is the subject of the disambiguation.
Example at random from page A54 "Aska"
Hundred (division) pipes as "administrative division"
There is nothing wrong with using a pipe in this way - within an explanation of an entry.  What should be eliminated is the use of a pipe in the title of the linked article.
Sussexonian (talk) 20:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested improvement for bot 

message: Right now Happy Endings goes right to the film, with a link to the disambiguation on the top.  The film is from 2005.  There is a television series out now (just started in 4/11) that is also named Happy Endings.  Should happy endings go right to the disambiguation page?  There is a discussion on the talk page, and if someone wants to move it, please do.  You Can't Clap With One Hand (Talk) 14:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Happy Endings 

message: Since this has been inactive for so long, I think it should be marked Historical and be removed from the Disambiguation sidebar. Any objections? Thanks, Geekdiva (talk) 11:36, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical or Needs update? Keep in sidebar?