Talk:Abraha

message: I found another great source you can site which is christian and thus more objective:
http://www.dacb.org/stories/ethiopia/_abraha.html
Another thing we should note about the operation that Abraha launched against Mecca is that this may have very well been one of the precursors to Islam's attack on the Christian Byzantine Roman Empire.  As one can see the Byzantine and the Persian Empire were much like America and the Soviet Empire during the Cold war: they had proxies all over the Middle East, Europe and Asia.  Thus, it was the geo-political situation of Arabia being wedged in between these two superpowers that led Prophet Muhammad to realize that it was necessary to wage an all out war against both empires since both proved to be a serious threat to Arabia with the greatest example being the incident involving Abraha, the Abyssinian(now Ethiopia) Christian Governor of Yemen who launched an attack on the Kabaa in 570 A.D., because of jealousy that his newly formed Christian Cathedral was not gaining as much popularity compared to the Kabaa for religious tourists.  Abraha, who was directly allied with the Byzantine Empire due to both of them being Christian, received tacit approval from the Emperor to attack the Kabaa and destroy it and faced little to no opposition on his way with his massive army till the meteor shower, according to the Koran birds with rocks threw them on his army.   Even though, at that time the Kabaa was used to store pagan gods, and was not under the control of Islam, there is no doubt that if Abraha had succeeded in destroying it and conquering Mecca, Prophet Muhammad would have never had the chance to preach his religion and he would have been forced to be a Christian like other countries who were under the rule of the Byzantine Empire.  Thus, this shows that with proxies in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Ethiopia, etc. both the Persian Empire and Christian Roman Byzantine Empire posed a direct threat to even the capitals of Islam: Mecca and Medina and thus had to be combated for both were not pluralistic societies and would never allow the spread of Islam in the areas under their control. I REALLY URGE YOU TO VISIT THE BELOW SITE BECAUSE IT IS MORE DETAILED.
-Amro Gaber
Source:
http://ccminc.faithweb.com/iqra/articles/0106story.html
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9003378
:Moved from the article — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 00:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

message: I find it troubling to have this section explicitly marked as facts, despite being entirely based on a non-academic, historically-disputable source, i.e. a sole religious scripture.
I propose either moving it to the Islamic tradition section, or doing away with it altogether. Almasvault (talk) 16:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
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message: I checked Guillaune's translation Ibn Hisham and Arabic prints of Ibn Hisham and it's Qullays not Qulays . please don't change  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ybgursey (talk • contribs) 02:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
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