Talk:OpenSolaris

message: This article states that the CDDL is incompatible with the GPL, and gives a link to a wikipedia page listing free software licenses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FSF_approved_software_licences, however this page states that CDDL is compatible with GPL with no footnotes or other information given as conditionals. 
Mrsteveman1 10:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Licensing Information

message: What will the role of the CAB be? The article doesn't mention this. Lupin 16:42, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The first thing the CAB will do is create a Charter and Governance for itself, so your question really can't be answered until it has met for the first time.  --Webmink 10:10, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  CAB 

message: Does anyone really think this article should be stubbed, seriously there's not much we can say about OpenSolaris until we have the code, I think what is here is a fair and informative representation of the current situation.
: I agree. I'm actually a CAB member and will be doing my best to keep the page up to date; right now I think there is little that could be added and hence it is not a stub.  --Webmink 01:47, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  STUB 

message: I'm not sure the Torvalds comments are very helpful here, especially without a citation.  --Webmink 12:30, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Citations have been added. Christopher Mahan 22:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Does anyone else think that the article reads like it was written by Sun simply for PR purposes? I'm not saying it actually was, but it seems a bit filled with marketing-oriented jargon and the like, i.e. "The community's core values -- openness, inclusiveness, respect, honesty, quality, and independence -- are reflected in how the community and its leaders behave and help guide the community as it evolves the technology." -anonymous
: Yes very much so.
:Yes. It should be overhauled. The language is too gushy. One big question I have is can you have a working, bootable, useable version without using any components released under a non-CDDL license (i.e. the OpenSolaris Binary License, which is not F/OSS)? If not, the article should mention this. --NightMonkey 12:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. And as NightMonkey added, there is a dependency to Solaris Express Community Release, which may contain proprietary code. Christopher Mahan 16:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this sound like PR? 

message: (2007-02-28) Just to let you know.  The purpose of selecting an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors.  I'm hoping this will attract some contributors to this important article.  It will remain on the portal for a week or so.  The previous selected article was CUPS. Gronky 15:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The selected article box has been updated again, OpenSolaris has been superceded by MediaWiki. Gronky 18:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On [[Portal:Free software]], OpenSolaris is currently the selected article 

message: "Project Indiana" links to the OpenSolaris entry, but there is no further mention of it :-/   84.143.158.87 10:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Indiana? 

message: I've just noticed that a lot of references to this OS inside the community use the term "GNU/OpenSolaris".  I think this is a great step - very friendly to acknowledge the GNU contribution.  Any comments on how it should be mentioned in the article? --Gronky (talk) 20:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this will be pretty much self-directed by the citations you choose.--NapoliRoma (talk) 15:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably a matter of what a specific distribution uses for its userland. Schillix is based on Sun/AT&T code for the most part, while Nexenta is based on Debian; the combined label would apply to the latter, but not the former. (I wouldn't think the use of GCC as a build environment would require the label, as it's really more a matter of necessity since Sun's compilers remain closed source.) Haikupoet (talk) 14:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GNU/OpenSolaris 

message: reqscreenshot
:Done. ffm 23:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: updated it myself Dracker (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshot 

message: Folks, this isn't a project homepage and it isn't a web portal.  It's an encyclopedia article.
Web links are ok in the "External links" section, and are ok as references (which makes them appear in the "References" section), but they can't stay in the body of the article.  I've already removed all such external links from the FSF article.  I'll come back and do this article soon, but I'm no expert on OpenSolaris's community, so someone else might be able to do a cleaner job.  If you think you can, then please give it a go before I do. --Gronky (talk) 10:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  All external links have to be removed from the body 

message: I whole article reeks of the stench of marketing material. This is nothing against OpenSolaris developers, but more about Sun itself.
Compare the wording of this and Sun's marketing material, and you will see parallels in the terminology where Sun's marketers want to insert certain ideas into our minds.
A dead giveaway is the "technology" following each mention of "Solaris." It's almost cult-like.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.228.206 (talk) 15:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree.  While I like Sun they sometimes seem a bit hubristic with regards to their own credibility.  Linguistically conflating the project to create an OS with the OS itself may be good branding but it is not encyclopedic.  Any other tech company would limit PR to the press releases; a bit like Apple, Sun seem to think that their PR is somehow genuinely philosophical and connotes a uniqueness of vision.  But its hard to see what is at all truly unique here.  It can all be expressed in standardized terminology.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.105.244.93 (talk) 01:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Absolutely.  This article needs to be rewritten, partially to remove the marketing wording and partially to update it now that there is an official release Dracker (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing 

message: The screen shot looks very different from the opensolaris.com live cd. I suppose the current screen shot is either outdated, a developer edition or largely modified. It would be more appropriate to have a screen shot showing the current default desktop. The article could also use the logo image. I wonder, if it falls under fair use. Ubuntu article does this right. --Easyas12c (talk) 14:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the logo. Andareed (talk) 04:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've updated the screenshot Dracker (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Who's a vendor that has picked up this project like Dell to Ubuntu? Was it Toshiba? Or who? I don't see it in the article, but I know it has occurred.
It truely needs some expansion. Toshiba sell Notebooks with Opensolaris and Fujitsu is making their super-computers on Sparc and Opensolaris.
Minikola 20091120, 11:45AM CET (GMT+1)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minikola (talk • contribs) 10:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Vendor

message: I would like to test OpenSolaris. Can anyone tell me if or if not OpenOffice works with OpenSolaris? --84.56.237.2 (talk) 05:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it does -- see http://www.gnome.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new/ . --NapoliRoma (talk) 06:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does OpenOffice run under OpenSolaris? 

message: While this quote is relevant, perhaps there could be an explanation or some context for it?  What does this quote mean for the legal status? 129.33.49.251 (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal status 

message: The entire criticism section does not have a very encyclopedic tone.  While I can tell it was written to show both sides, it comes off as ranty.  It also cites no sources.  If I knew more about the subject, or I would work on it, but I was on the page to learn about it myself. --Mintrepublic (talk) 06:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's interesting that OpenSolaris Development Package Repositories claims "/release - contains stable packages normally updated once every six months after completing the release process including a final test cycle. Security and other high priority bug fixes can be made as needed. This is the primary user repository." and the 2008.11 release notes claim "The release repository is now the default authority for new users of OpenSolaris. This repository will be slower evolving, receiving milestone updates every 6 months with a new release of OpenSolaris. Significant bug fixes, security updates and new software may be provided, prior to these milestone updates, that users may install." and the 2009.06 release notes link to that, but no security updates have ever been made, leaving 2009.06 with the vulnerable Firefox 3.1b3. Their only out is the fact it says may, but it's still not good practice. TRS-80 (talk) 11:41, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree that in the form it was, the criticism comes across as very fanboy-ish (see WP:SYNTH) and very unencyclopedic in tone (WP:NPOV). If the only "criticism" that can be made about OpenSolaris is that the Sun website says "updates every six months" but some third-party software betas are vulnerable on it, you're grasping at straws. Not oppose to a future criticism section which properly written however, containing criticism that is found in WP:RS. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 14:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section 

message: I think there should be www.opensolaris.org on the top description of the page.
Opensolaris it community-driven as much as Oracle-driven project and everyone I ast is saying that www.opensolaris.org And www.opensolaris.com are both official main project pages and they deserve to be displayed.
Moreover, opensolaris.org is more "official one" to anyone actually using Opensolaris so not only developer page but basically main  page por Opensolaris. (As operating system distribution asd well as for kernel)Minikola (talk) 12:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and lend my support. Ismouton (talk) 14:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Hi, I changed the home page to www.opensolaris.org and put an indication that the page redirects. Linuxtinkerer (talk) 03:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opensolaris.org is main site, together with opensolaris.com 

message: I removed this section since it is irrelevant to OpenSolaris. The initial agreement was never fully disclosed and Novell received compensation during the case settlement specifically linked to SCO's agreement with Sun. Moreover, now that the merger with Oracle is complete means that the due diligence done by Oracle's legal counsel considered Sun's ownership of the entire source code of Solaris and OpenSolaris as well as it's re-licensing valid. BlanchardJ (talk) 23:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the legal section 

message: OpenSolaris is not a Unix certified system. It however follows the Unix standard but never got tried for approval by Sun or Oracle (Yet). BlanchardJ (talk) 23:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: However, it appears that the OS family category in the infobox is meant to refer to the system's pedigree, rather than SUS compliance and trademark certication status. Notice that BSD is also "Unix", as are a number of systems that were never certified or predate certification. 98.140.245.86 (talk) 04:07, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: BSD itself predates the Unix specification and is then considered a Unix for the sake of historical classification. If you check the BSD descendants like FreeBSD they are categorized as Unix-Like however, which is still considered a mild trademark violation. While I agree that many of those systems are part of the Unix family there is not much we can do without being in violation of the Open Group trademark. BlanchardJ (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The modern meaning of Unix is simply an OS that has been certified by the Open Group. All the modern BSDs despite both being descended from the original codebase and being completely compatible with the Unix standard are typically classified as Unix-like. Why should OpenSolaris stand out? Ismouton (talk) 18:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to your definition of Unix not even UNIX System V Release 4 or UNIX 4.4BSD would qualify as ‘Unix.’  (Note that the Wikipedia articles on UNIX System V and BSD similarly categorize them as Unix, even though both wouldn’t qualify according to your narrow definition.)  In any case, even if we were to go with your somewhat arbitrary definition, Solaris 10 is listed on The Open Group’s Web site; the last stable release of OpenSolaris is Solaris 10, just with the Oracle branding and logos removed (as well as some proprietary user-level/application software that doesn’t affect standards compliance).  If you’re still skeptical, see standards(5) (man standards in Solaris/OpenSolaris), which should clear up any residual confusion you might have.  In any case, kudos for your proofreading and fact-checking efforts!  71.246.150.178 (talk) 09:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unix or Unix-Like 

message: What is a software "spork" as opposed to a fork? Please explain. -- 77.7.155.77 (talk) 14:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "spork"? 

message: OpenSolaris is the basic OS and definitely not the name of a distribution.
Sun confused people by renaming the project "Indiana" into OpenSolaris against the will of the community.
There is no need to let this confusion take power over the WP article. The article should just mention the Sun initiated confusion.
OpenSolaris is not discontinued, it is still alife by the community. There is just no longer a distro that uses the name also to confuse people. --Schily (talk) 10:05, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why has the article been converted into something missleading? 

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