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# Ausir 23:39, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Timwi's version (revised)

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# Jwrosenzweig 23:45, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Old version

message: ===Other messages===
So are we going to have a poll for every different message? I feel the same way for all of them, but obviously others might not. Dori | Talk 02:17, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
:I hope polling isn't necessary on every message, but we need to discuss this systematically instead of ad hoc, so that we can have some sort of established practice. I'm much more inclined to favor Timwi's approach for messages that are more short-lived or time-sensitive, like VfD. --Michael Snow 17:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost all these messages, including for example neutrality and accuracy disputes, are extremely important to point out to visitors (who don't know about talk pages and don't look at them). Casual visitors, especially young students, tend to be less trained to look out for possible factual inaccuracies or bias. — One message that I agree with you should not even be in the article, is the "this article is protected" message. That one is solely relevant to editors. — Timwi 03:27, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: The fact that so many stubs exist on a single topic indicates to me that the information on this topic is poorly organized. In the specific case of Tolkein, a random selection of articles I read appeared not really to be stubs... the articles were actually quite complete.. it is just that they are on such specific topics that there wasn't much to write. I would prefer to see in this case, and others as they arise, fewer, but more interesting and readable (because you don't have to click all over the place), articles. Maybe the problem is that the creator of 10 very short articles appears to be more "productive" than the creator of one longer one. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 10:01, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: General Discussion

message: So are we going to have a poll for every different message? I feel the same way for all of them, but obviously others might not. Dori | Talk 02:17, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
:I hope polling isn't necessary on every message, but we need to discuss this systematically instead of ad hoc, so that we can have some sort of established practice. I'm much more inclined to favor Timwi's approach for messages that are more short-lived or time-sensitive, like VfD. --Michael Snow 17:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Other messages

message: The purpose of the article page is to have the article. The place for administrative messages is the talk page. By incorporating metadata on the article page, we are moving away from making the pages useful for readers, and making them just useful for editors, which is kind of pointless - what are we making the pages for at all if they are not for readers. The bolding, colouring and boxing of these messages goes even further to make it seem like they are the most important bit of the page, not the article itself. Ideally we would restrict these msgs: to the talk page (with the possible exception of vfd, which is a time critical message), then they cane be as intrusive as people want. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 14:55, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost all these messages, including for example neutrality and accuracy disputes, are extremely important to point out to visitors (who don't know about talk pages and don't look at them). Casual visitors, especially young students, tend to be less trained to look out for possible factual inaccuracies or bias. — One message that I agree with you should not even be in the article, is the "this article is protected" message. That one is solely relevant to editors. — Timwi 03:27, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Metadata

message: I think a good idea to encourage more people to expand stubs, would be to make more field-specific stub messages, for people interested in that field (like I've done with :Template:Tolkienstub. The text can even be the same as in the standard message. Ausir 10:57, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that so many stubs exist on a single topic indicates to me that the information on this topic is poorly organized. In the specific case of Tolkein, a random selection of articles I read appeared not really to be stubs... the articles were actually quite complete.. it is just that they are on such specific topics that there wasn't much to write. I would prefer to see in this case, and others as they arise, fewer, but more interesting and readable (because you don't have to click all over the place), articles. Maybe the problem is that the creator of 10 very short articles appears to be more "productive" than the creator of one longer one. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 10:01, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Tolkien stub