Talk:Aeroperú Flight 603

message: "The blockage of all of the static ports is in fact one of the few common-failure modes resulting in total failure of all of the aircraft's basic flight instruments" This line is inaccurate since not all the basic flight instruments use the pitot-static system. Only the VSI, airspeed indicator and altimeter do.
"The blockage of all of the static ports is in fact one of the few common-failure modes resulting in total failure of all of the aircraft's basic flight instruments" - Should it not be common-mode failures instead of common-failure mode?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivkumar (talk • contribs) 02:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: I don't know why this matters (it is stated so emphatically in a few places in the article as if it were the most important bit of trivia about the incident), but saying that "most of the passengers" were Chilean is inaccurate...if there were 70 fatalities, and 30 were from Chile, then 40 (most) were not from Chile.  Someone should change that so that it's clear what they are intending to say. Rafajs77 (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with User:Rafajs77. "Most" is misleading. I changed it to "half of the passengers". Alternate wording could be "about half" or "almost half" (30 of 61 passengers). Boneyard90 (talk) 20:54, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationalities

message: * http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/B752,_en-route,_vicinity_Chancay_Peru,_1996_%28LOC_AW_HF%29 - http://www.webcitation.org/66YMecWni
* http://www.caretas.com.pe/1435/cabina/cabina1.htm - http://www.webcitation.org/6YGygPUw3 - Has pictures from Peruvian newspapers
**http://www.caretas.com.pe/1435/cabina/25-1.jpg - http://www.webcitation.org/6YGyimpAt
**http://www.caretas.com.pe/1435/cabina/25-2.jpg - http://www.webcitation.org/6YGymSRee
*"Captain's calm voice belied the peril of Flight 603." Associated Press at the Daily Herald. Thursday October 3, 1996. Page 12, Section 1.
**http://newspaperarchive.com/daily-herald/1996-10-03/page-182
WhisperToMe (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: The image should have even more additional illumination - at present details are almost impossible to see, even at full size. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty | Averted crashes 01:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image trouble 

message: Someone keeps re-adding the CGI image in the infobox, which was removed Feb-18 per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Aviation_accident_task_force#CGI-type_images.  Basically the image is original research.  Since I’ve reverted this a couple of time already in the last few days, I’m bringing it here.  Comments?  Rwessel (talk) 12:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image in Infobox 

message: According to the paragraph on this accident on the page for the production Charlie Victor Romeo, not only was their altimeter telling them that they were flying at 9,700ft even though their terrain warning was going off, ATC made it worse by repeatedly telling them the same thing. Unfortunately, ATC was getting their info from the aircraft's transponder, which was reading from the same source as the altimeter. ATC told them to descend lower, and they struck the water..45Colt 19:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the Mayday episode and yes, this is correct. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATC  

message: "On December 13, 1999, family members of the flight's passengers received one of the largest cash awards stemming from an aviation accident outside the United States aboard a non-U.S carrier, averaging nearly $1 million per victim". I think this needs a bit of clearing up, but the given source has no more detail - who settled? Was it just Boeing? If it was Aeroperú, did the family members actually get any money? The internet isn't much use because (a) this happened in 1999 (b) the news media generally doesn't follow up stories like this. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 18:27, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The internet was in use in 1999, so thankfully many stories were posted around that time. While it's been almost 20 years, and several of the sites pulled the articles, they should still be available on academic databases. Perhaps the folks at Wikipedia:RX may be able to find some articles to help you get some additional articles in English or Spanish. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Settlement 

message: I'm going to agree with the accident report here https://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1719.pdf that this accident was CFIT. With functioning attitude indicators and the GPWS and radar altimeter working the crew should have been able to save themselves. According to the report they were never trained to deal with this scenario and the GPWS indication was ignored. Samf4u (talk)  22:13, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it seems multiple GPWS indications were ignored. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controlled flight into terrain 

message: Can we include a link to the CVR recording as it reveals the whole duration from take off to CFIT?
The link is here if the decision to include the CVR is approved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIjh7d7JmQ
OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 12:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That's quite a long recording - over 31 minutes. But what is the copyright status - there is no clear statement and the description is all in Spanish? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  CVR 

message: I believe there is an error in the dates in the main article in the section titled, "Aftermath."
It appears at the end of the "Legal Settlement" section, that the passengers' family members received a cash settlement on December 13, 1999.
However, in the next section called, "Aeroperú as a whole," states that as a result of the large amount of money paid for the settlements, Aeroperú declared bankruptcy and ceased all operations in March 1999.
If these dates are accurate, how does Aeroperú declare bankruptcy and cease operations in March 1999, but the settlements didn't seem to get paid out until 7 months after? Can they declare bankruptcy due to settlement payments that hadn't yet occurred?
Or perhaps the wording isn't clear enough to explain what happened and when? I have a brain injury so I don't always understand what I'm reading clearly, so anyone can feel free to edit the dates, the wording, or just explain to me how it actually works in that way.
Kind Regards
CoryKent7 (talk) 06:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Error in Main Article 

message: This entire article seems sub-par, and is written from a biased point of view.  It clearly falls short of standards.
I don't have the energy to work on it.
-p  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ordlab (talk • contribs) 01:34, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! I'm not sure what kind of bias would be present? No government has submitted serious disagreements with the Peruvian government's findings on the crash. To be honest I think there has been very little controversy about the findings. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards