Talk:Scots language

message: Does anyone have qualms with me removing the three instances of "Scots" in a row in the first sentence to reduce redundancies? As it currently reads: , when we could just have . Wolfdog (talk) 11:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not redundant, it notes the term for the tongue in Scots. That in this instance a term in Scots is the same as the term in English wouldn't be evident unless it is noted. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:53, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What about ? –Austronesier (talk) 12:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, am pondering it. Your suggestion is It's clear to me, provides the information about the term for Scots in Scots, though I know what endonym means. It may be less clear to those who don't know what endonym means but all they have to do is click. It may be preferable to those who are confused about what is being conveyed, per the earlier thread above. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's clear to me as well, but only because I frequently edit WP language pages. My kneejerk feeling is that it's perplexing. I'd be on board for Austronesier's endonym workaround. Wolfdog (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, just realised I was being ambiguous. Though the current version is clear to me it does seem to perplex some people and in my last post I was meaning that Austronesier's suggestion is (also) clear to me. Go for it. Mutt Lunker (talk) 19:41, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

text: All I can say is that in Gaeilge "Bérla" simply refers to the english language even if the literal meaning is different. Similar to the way "Sasanach" may literally mean foreigner but is only used to mean "English Person". WikiLearnedMeGood (talk) 19:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead sentence removal question 

message: Should it actually be classified as an indigenous language when it came from german settlers? Shouldn't the indigenous language be a celtic language like Gaelic? Malcolmmwa (talk) 00:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: By that logic, celtic languages wouldn't count either as the celtic settlers didn't spring from the Scottish soil either. Or the pre-celtic ones. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The term 'indigenous' can be used in various ways, and ideally, the qualification as 'indigenous' should always be attributed to a given source. In this case, the source is the Scottish government, as can be read in the linked web page. FWIW, the category "indigenous languages of Scotland" also includes Gaelic and English. So the ideal phrasing would be: "Scots is recognised by the Scottish government as an indigenous language of Scotland (next to Gaelic and English)". But this is just too heavy for the lede section, I guess. –Austronesier (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Scots is also from Scotland so therefore it's safe to say it's an indigenous language 2600:8801:FB13:6B00:CE9F:FED6:F584:5708 (talk) 04:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indigenous 

message: The second sentence of the lead section reads  It strikes me as odd that we are so quickly taking time to define a topic that is NOT the focus of this page. Can anyone instead specify here where Scots is spoken rather than where Gaelic is spoken, which isn't particularly relevant. If Scots is indeed common throughout the entire nation of Scotland, let's specify that. Wolfdog (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: See Scots_language#Geographic_distribution. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:10, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second sentence 

message: This article is missing any mention of Dano-English influence (from the Danelaw) on Scots, but I routinely encounter mention of this is source material (especially etymological).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:00, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Distinct from the influence of Northumbria? Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:08, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

text: The article mention it "It began to further diverge from the Middle English of Northumbria due to twelfth and thirteenth-century immigration of Scandinavian-influenced Middle English-speakers from the North and Midlands of England." Nogger (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danelaw influence