Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar

message: Tough one, this. I'm not especially familiar with Adil's edit pattern, so it's hard for me to really say. All I can assert is this: Ehud Lesar was not editing disruptively enough to merit an indefinite block on grounds of disruptive editing alone, though I did put him on revert parole. I think it's worth taking the case, if only to determine whether the evidence really is good enough. From an outside perspective I wasn't convinced, but that may have been from ignorance of Adil's behaviour pattern. Moreschi  If you've written a quality article... 14:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment by Moreschi 

message: If this case is accepted I request that all fairly recent instances where the WP:DUCK test has been used to ban users be given scrutiny and I also request that the ARBCOM committee look into what I consider abuse and gaming of the WP:RFCU process by user:Atabek and user:Grandmaster.  was banned about a year ago by the ARBCOM committee and it appears that he had a history of using proxies. Subsequent checkuser run against Artaxiad thus have (and had) a good chance of becoming inconclusive. After the inconclusive verdict, the user was often banned by an admin apparently by the duck test. The following users were banned in such a manner:
Those are the ones that I am aware of, there may be more. Bassenius and Verjakette were found to be likely socks of one another but it was inconclusive as to whether they were socks of Artaxiad (presumably due to his proxy use). Also, see the following evidence comparing the writing style of Bassenius, Verjakette, and Vonones. Three alleged sockpuppets of Artaxiad. Looking at that evidence, you can see that it is questionable that they were all the same person. user:VartanM may be able to provide additional evidence that they were different people from Artaxiad. One may argue that Verjakette and Bassenius were likely socks of each other so what's the big deal about indef. blocking them? The answer is that there is a chance that they were not and even if they were, they didn't seem to be socking abusively. I would also ask that the committee look at Grandmaster and Atabek's checkuser requests in Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Artaxiad, especially the latest one. They are now checkusering user:Steelmate, user:Andranikpasha, against Artaxiad, completely ignoring writing style and the fact that these users have established themselves as completely distinct and independent identities. I have also somehow made it onto the latest checkuser list. I may expand upon this if I have more time. I also suggest that if this case is accepted, the name be changed to something like Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan-Ducktests. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 03:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: please make note of the response by the checkuser at Atabek and Grandmaster's recent checkuser request "This is the umpteenth time you've come here listing three or four different established identities and asking them all to be against some new account or other."  Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Statement by uninvolved [[user:Pocopocopocopoco]]

message: Ehud Lesar has emailed me asking to be unblocked so he can participate in the case and assures me he will not edit elsewhere. I have saved the email and also forwarded to the Committee, asking them for a decision on this matter.  — Rlevse • Talk •  10:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He has been unblocked by an arb and can only edit this case.  — Rlevse • Talk •  19:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unblock request by Ehud Lesar

message: One of the consequences of Ehud's block was resetting of ban of User:AdilBaguirov for 1 year. Since Ehud is not Adil's sock, I believe the ban extension should be reversed as well. Please see Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan#Blocks_to_implement_bans. Grandmaster (talk) 05:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I'm double-checking with the committee.  — Rlevse • Talk •  09:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I pointed that out when I closed the case, but they did not do it yet.  — Rlevse • Talk •  12:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks. Hopefully this will be done soon. Grandmaster (talk) 13:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

text: This is confusing as there are a few resets in his block log. The last reset was on January 11, 2008 by Thatcher with an expiration of 1 year, so it will expire in Jan 2009. The original 1-year ban was for 1 year on April 11, 2007, which would have expired in April 2008, next month. I do see where you get the August date from but not the July one. But the original ban was before that. So, in my opinion, if the extensions are reversed and we leave the original ban intact, we should unban him as of April 10, 2008 as that block was made April 11, 2007. Note, I'll be leaving on vacation in a few hours, so I ask Thatcher to finish this up for me if more work is needed.  — Rlevse • Talk •  10:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is from where I got the July date. Thanks for your help and happy holidays Rlevse. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up®  11:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/AdilBaguirov#AdilBaguirov(3rd request) - it looks quite clear, but it might be worth asking the CU Voice of All to confirm, to be sure, to be sure. John Vandenberg (talk) 12:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks John. I've found the answer. It expires on June 27, 2008. It's done. Case officially closed. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up®  02:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  One more thing. Adil's ban reset back to previous duration needs to be recorded at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan#Blocks_to_implement_bans. This can be done by any admin. The results of Ehud's case probably also need to be mentioned there, as currently the log says that Ehud is Adil's sock. Grandmaster (talk) 06:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done, now now there are no outstanding issues. Grandmaster (talk) 09:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ban reset