Talk:Patrician

message: What is a magistracy??? Pgan002 23:48, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)
:Political office in the Roman Republic -- consul, praetor, etc.  --Jfruh 01:28, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old stuff

message: Hereditary ranks in the Kingdom of Italy were, if memory serves, principe, duca, marchese, conte, visconte, barone, cavaliere, nobile, patrizio, signore.  I may have got the order muddled a bit.  —Tamfang 09:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed shash 12:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian hereditary title 

message: What is meant by this phrase? Extinct when? As written it seems to suggest that all the rest are still famous Italian families; surely this can't be meant. -- Securiger 22:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly extinct ones? 

message: I have some suggestions for cleanup on this article. Hopefully I'll be able to enact some of them in the future.
# It is very much wanting for sources.
# The header says the article is about patricians in ancient rome, yet we have sections on modern and fictional uses of the term.
# "Only after X Caesar said so" could probably be rephrased. And probably connected to information explaining how/why Caesar said so.
# The sections "patrician caste" and "patrician position" seem to be oddly titled, when in fact they are mostly about different eras of the term. Might due to reorganize them
# This article should probably be coordinated with the article on plebeians.
Munion 00:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: We appear to have no article at all on the post-antique patrician classes in Italy and elsewhere. Johnbod (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval patricians 

message: should a mention be made of german title, Patrizier, likely derived from Patrician, and common in the middle ages?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.21.70.36 (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it covered in Patrician (post-Roman Europe)? —Tamfang (talk) 20:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  german Patrizier 

message: There is an inconsistency in the text: 
“In the beginning of the Republic all priesthoods were closed to non-patricians.”
“Historian Adrian Richard states that patrician families were initially those who held positions within the priesthoods, and that the ancient Senate, composed of patricians, was a religious advisory body.”
So which one is the right claim?
Analogica (talk) 02:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency  

message: *See discussion in Talk:Patrician (post-Roman Europe). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: Are there American patricians? C. Douglas Dillon is said to have grown up a patrician in Texas and in The Great Gatsbythe narrator is from a patrician family in the Midwestern US.  Are they mislabeled or should Patrician (post-Roman Europe) be changed to Patrician (post-Roman Empire) or should Patrician (non-Europe) be added? J04n(talk page) 23:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a loose, metaphorical usage — not a formal caste (which would be unconstitutional) as in at least some parts of Europe. —Tamfang (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-European patricians? 

message: Piero Scaruffi is not a patrician, someone keeps adding it because it's an epic 4chan meme. Please revert any edits referring to Piero Scaruffi and lock the page for editing among non logged-in users. 86.23.91.40 (talk) 17:42, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: someone's MAD ^^^^^  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.227.58.212 (talk) 19:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

text: There must be thousands of Italians who could claim the hereditary title patrizio, but it's unlikely that someone turning to this article is looking for a particular one of them. —Tamfang (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piero Scaruffi