Help talk:Table/Archive 1

message: 2003-2005 activities on Meta archived [ here]. -- Omniplex 22:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Meta:Help:Table]] authors and history 

message: I'm doing a table that needs the use of the character "|" and possibly the string "||". But wikipedia interprets those as table syntax, so how would I add those in? Fresheneesz 21:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Use {, |, } for {, |, } if you don't want them to be interpreted as wikitext / template characters - I've listed all three because 123, 124, 125 for {, |, } is easy to remember. Of course you can always use | to protect characters from interpretation as Wiki markup, magic word, etc. -- Omniplex 22:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, i'll add that on this page somewhere. Fresheneesz 02:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How to add | or || visibly into a table

message: I want to insert a 2-row table inside a line to list a date, in two calendars (say Gregorian and Coptic), instead of writing date-1 then date2. What do I need to declare to avoid line breaks before and after the table? 
I want to put such code in a template that takes the two dates as parameters. 
Too bad that Math:Fract does not accept parameters.
--Shafei 19:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How to have a table inline

message: Binary   	.Dec.	.Hex.	Glyph
0100 0000	64   	40   	@
0100 0001	65   	41   	A
0100 0010	66   	42   	B
0100 0011	67   	43   	C
0100 0100	68   	44   	D
Is there a way to define parameters based on column rather than row? For example I want a table that looks something like this:
But I don't want to have to define style="background:lightblue;" for every cell. Is there a way to do this? Fresheneesz 03:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colors in a whole column 

message: Support: Wikipedia:How to use tables doesn't actually explain how to use tables; rather it covers a couple of subtopics. --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 05:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should close this as "merge". - Samsara (talk • contribs) 10:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I've moved Wikipedia:How to use tables to Wikipedia:When to use tables and removed all of the how-to stuff.  Wikipedia:How to use tables has been turned into a disambiguation page that points both here and there.  JYolkowski // talk 01:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re merge from [[Wikipedia:How to use tables]] 

message: For example align to bottom left?
is it possible?
--ComradeWolf 20:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is possible. --Siva1979Talk to me 21:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to place a text or an image at the corner of a cell? 

message: Could somebody please point to a very simple example showing a 3x2 table with an image aligned bottom left in the middle column, second row. The table can have "anything" in the other cells.
Thanks for the helpful answer, in the help section, Silva.
--Garrie 05:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Follow up question 

message: I would like to have a table with no visible borders internal or external to just lay out some text. But I want the text to spread over the whole line (ie it should be as long as the vertical line between sections on this talk page).
I have this: (but I don't know why it's the last thing in my post either! that's not where I wanted it, I want it ABOVE the line "Questions:")
        	               	
Column 1	The next column	Column 3
Questions:
: Do I need the "td and /td" at the start and end?
: My width tags just make each column the same size. How do I make the row take the whole available line rather than the minimum available space, without abusing the cellpadding tag?
:: How do I get it to show up in the right place (tm)
Real helpful answers will be appreciated. I know - at least I didn't ask is it possible to..., but again I have been speaking English since I was very young and writing it since I was only a little older. --Garrie 05:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate question 

message: I'm working on a page for Weird Mystery Tales, an anthology comic with 3-4 features per issue.  I modeled the table on the one for Marvel Presents, but the challenge here is making it clear which artist, writer, host, and note goes with each story.  I couldn't find any help on the page.  Asterisks as bullets faile, colons failed.  Now it looks like Berni Wrightson drew "The Wizard's Gift", whcih wasn't credited, and probably from before Wrightson had a professional career.  Scottandrewhutchins 16:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Keeping data together

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_language#Simple
The 1st/2nd person singulars are the same, and the singular and plural 3rd persons are the same, so I'd like to merge them. How can that be done? Tuncrypt 11:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How do I merge boxes?

message: I'm wondering if there is a way using wiki syntax and using inline CSS and not a stylesheet to specify styles for all resultant  and/or all resultant  in one place as opposed to having to copy for each row and/or cell? MikeSchinkel 07:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syntax for applying styles to all table rows and/or table cells? 

message: How do I give a table a background image? All the CSS values I can think of seem to be blocked from usage.--mm3guy 17:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background Images 

message: Is there an extension for Dreamweaver or any other standard webpage editor that will code tables (or any other wikified HTML elements) in Wiki syntax?  Please reply to my account by email - I'm very interested in this.  --Erielhonan 01:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dreamweaver]] Extension? 

message: Ok. I got this table as below. It is very long. So I want it to have two sets of columns. Instead of there being just 'year' and 'album', I want it to have 'year', 'album', 'year', 'album', so the long table becomes half the original length. You get what I mean? Do you know how to do this? Gimme somma idea. Thx. AppleJuggler 08:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's right. I was thinking if it could be done automatically, rather than manually as you've done (perhaps by inserting some special function like {col=2} or something like that). Thanks for the format you provided though, I think I will use it for the time being! AppleJuggler 05:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to make a long list have two columns so that you cut down on length? 

message: Can anybody have a look at the template used at 2006 European Athletics Championships? When it comes to the event by event medal sections there is a difference between the widths of the gold/silver and bronze sections. It also varies when you add another similar table for instance when adding a womens section. In that case the both tables vary in total width, but also the width between gold/silver/bronze in the same table as in the other table are different everywhere. I was wondering whether this could be improved so these tables would give the same widths all the time, which in my opinion would look a lot better. Thanks, SportsAddicted | discuss 12:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving lay-out 

message: There is nothing here about the new sortable tables.  Can someone please add instructions on how to use it, as I currently have no idea, and it would be very useful for our WikiProject. -Runningonbrains 18:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Help:Sorting.--Patrick 14:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  class="wikitable sortable" 

message: i got a list of 40 words in alphabetic order. If i do a table with say 5 columns the words appear alphabetic in a line. But i want the words to be alpabetic in a column. How can this be done, without mixing up the alphabetic list? I want to "mirror" the line with the column. I want the words to be alphabetic in a column  because, the gaps between the words in a line differ, the gaps in a column are always the same. So it would be easyer to read the alphabetic list column by column. Can someone please help? The gaps between the the columns are the same because i used width="200pt".
Aaa         	AbbSDFe	Acc         	Axadge	Baa
Baa         	Bbb    	Byydfhearzha	C     	C C C
Caaaaaaaaaaa	Cbb    	DD          	U     	Z1
-- 172.158.6.149 19:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mirror Line with column 

message: Ok, so first question: is there an easy way to make sure the columns are the same width?
:Yes, specify the width as a attribute.  See the previous topic source (click on "edit") for an example of five columns forced to 200 pixel width.
Second: Can you say a column shoud be X% of the entire table?
:I don't think so directly.  But indirectly, each can be set to a percent of the available width for the table.
Third: Can you say I want this table in the center, but it should not float
:That's explained in Help:Table#Centering_tables, though the solution is obscure.
1	2	3	4
Fourth: What is class (I think it's class, at one point in the multiplication table it says something like class="wikitable")?
:It invokes a collection of styles for elements like border style, width, font, color, etc.  Dig through your (and the system) monobook.css and the various .css's invoked to find the defined elements and other possible class styles.
Thanks for any help!
Danielfolsom 03:57, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome.  —EncMstr 18:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A Few Qs

message: The point of Wiki Code is to make it easier for non technical users - but in this case HTML is so much easier.  I so no point of the pipeline syntax.
Comperr 23:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I find HTML easier for any task than any other code. Its quick, easy and does the job quick.. The tables on wikipedia are so complex..i just ignore them! Fethroesforia 01:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HTML - much easier 

message: So this page says you should put quotes around everything (like border="1") - but for some reason on this page (my own) whenever I put quotes around the values it doesn't work (and when I take out all the quotes it does) - feel free to fool around with it, as long as it can wind up how it was - (Note:the ones that significantly change things are border, cellpadding, and the rowspan of the long section). --Daniel()Folsom T|C|U 17:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help

message: I toyed with the tables, but couldnt get them working properly.  Help is appreciated. --Ronz 17:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took one guess at what might have been intended.  —EncMstr 17:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! --Ronz 19:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help needed in [[Principles of User Interface Design]]

message: I am trying to put wiki table in #if: statement but when a value for the variable is not found or a space character is found instead of skiping the display of any cell at all, I get empty cells. In many working templates, I have seen that instead of wiki table, HTML table is used in #if:
Are there any technical obstacles in using wikitable with wiki syntax's If statement? Is it necessary to use HTML table in If statement?
Szhaider 06:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Table in If statement 

message: Is there any way to get make a standard blue bullet in a table, one that looks like:
* <-this
- Peregrine Fisher 20:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes,  you  can.   Just  use :image:Monobook-bullet.png.   —EncMstr 22:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, thanks.  I put it together with class="sortable" and  and some other stuff and have created a frankenstein table that looks like a sortable imdb filmography here. - Peregrine Fisher 23:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would like a blue bullet in my table 

message: Sometimes I make a table look good in my browser (Opera), and when I check it in another browser, it doesn't look right.  Basically, Opera and IE seem to match up well, but then Firefox will display it very poorly.  here is an example that fixes it for firefox.  Basically, the width of the columns has to be specified.  Now, this messes up the table in Opera, which is OK I guess because we're so few in number.  Is there some general explanation so I can work in an informed manner without having to check a page in each browser?  Also, it seems silly that firefox can't display a table which autosizes its columns, or is this our fault? - Peregrine Fisher 00:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what the problem is.  I looked at several recent versions of List of Drake & Josh episodes and didn't seen any layout difference in Firefox 2.0, IE 6.0, and SeaMonkey.  I varied my browser width from 500px wide up to 1280px in each case, and tried it logged in as well as anonymously.  What does "not look right" mean?  —EncMstr 01:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Opera, this version; the furthest right cell in the top row in each entry (containing: "Pilot"	January 11, 2004	101	1	1) doesn't align on the right with the cell on the bottom (containing: Drake gets shocked when he moves in with Josh, and he mocks him with his hysterical secret.)  Maybe :Template:Episode list needs to be adjusted.  Opera is like 1% or browsers, so it doesn't matter much.  This version in firefox doesn't show the cell seperators for the first five entries or the header, then shows them for the sixth entry. - Peregrine Fisher 02:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between browsers 

message: Where can I go to make a suggestion for wikitable sortable?  I think it could be quite usefull for lists of titles (films, novels, etc.), but I was wondering if it's possible to have it ignore the words "the", "a", and so on at the beginning of the title, as is commonly done when sorting films alphabetically. Esn 07:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can do it ugly style with what_you_want_it_sorted_bywhat_shows_up.  I did a little test run incorporated into a template at User:Peregrine Fisher/Workspace/ActingFilmography-tv, with the result being the first tabel at User:Peregrine Fisher/Workspace/Testpage.  - Peregrine Fisher 08:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I made changes which removes the empty fifth column, and makes all remaining four columns sortable.  There are other issues with empty fields and how context is lost after sorting, so look it over carefully—a revert might be in order. —EncMstr 20:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: wikitable sortable

message: class="sortable wikitable" worked well when I set up the table Nilgiris_%28mountains%29#List_of_peaks_in_the_Nilgiri_Hills and others I learned from by example, but now they only sort the first column.
Has something changed or did I just make an error? Any sortable wikitable guru please help!Marcus 19:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made changes which removes the empty fifth column, and makes all remaining four columns sortable.  There are other issues with empty fields and how context is lost after sorting, so look it over carefully—a revert might be in order. —EncMstr 20:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorta Broken?

message: I have a table that's rather long and narrow (only two columns). I'd like to split it in two parts and display them side by side, so instead of one table that's a page long and big empty space next to it I have two shorter tables running in parallel. What's the best way to do this? --Itinerant1 19:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple  tables in one row 

message: What the hell has happened to the Wiki markup type table. Has the formatting changed ? It looks awful and was much better the way it was before. 195.137.109.177 10:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki markup Table

message: Hi. This page is obviously rather out of date, considering that all over the wikipedia nearly all tables in heavily-maintained pages have been updated to make use of class="wikitable." But for those of us who don't really know much about CSS, where on earth is the basic page for class="wikitable" styles? Doops |  talk 08:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, where, please ? i's been searching too. Yes, like the doc for things such as style="width: 100%; text-align: center; font-size: smaller; table-layout: fixed;" (pls don't reply that they are self-explanatory) --Jerome Potts (talk) 21:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikitable is a CSS class for a table style. To use it on another wiki, you need to import the wikitable section from MediaWiki:Common.css. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  12:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is help for class="wikitable"? 

message: Is it possible for one column line to be darker? Epson291 05:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make line thicker 

message: The page says 
 Do not, under any circumstances, use "float" to position a table.
 It will break page rendering at large font sizes.
Yet one paragraph below, it is explained how to produce a floating table. I think either the negative advise or the how-to should be removed Jasy jatere 23:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's the way all infoboxes are created, and yes, the infoboxes do cause problems when the ratio font size / window width gets large. This really has to be solved. I think a good solution would be to turn floating tables into normal full width tables when they get larger than say half of the window width. Shinobu 04:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Floating tables good or bad??

message: And how can I put two tables (at the beginning of an article) underneath each other? My tables always end up, being side by side, and only after enough text has been added, the second table kinda slides underneath the first one. The text will float to the left of the tables, as desired. Thanks. - Mactie 13:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can use  between the tables. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: underneath each other

message: Is it possible to filter a table so that it only shows rows where one column = X (X could be set by a link, dropdown menu, or radio buttons)?  I would like to have a large table and be able to see only sections of it at a time, based on a specific field.  The functionality would be similar to the AutoFilter feature that is in Microsoft Excel.  --Scott Alter 00:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filtering? 

message: The links to "header," "row" and "cell" under the wiki toolbar section all lead to disambiguation pages. Could someone familiar with this page find the appropriate articles? Thanks. Awadewit | talk 20:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: Would someone here be willing to help me with table creation for my user page.  I don't think it will be difficult for someone that knows what they are doing and i'm not sure where else to ask. Jmfangio ► Talk  21:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with table creation 

message: Is there a list of classes such as wikitable, sortable, infobox and the like?  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, is there, please? --Jerome Potts (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classes 

message: This page is getting a bit long. Users with slow internet connections are having to wait a long time to load the entire page. I feel that it is a good time to archive this page? Any comments about this are welcomed. --Siva1979Talk to me 05:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: wouldn't it be nice if could be archived just the sections where the discussion is closed/settled? --Jerome Potts (talk) 21:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive? 

message: I use a Mac and when I try to sort a table that can be sorted, such as the one about cities and temperatures on the sorting page on metawiki, no matter which column I want to sort the information by, it is always sorted by the city's name (I think generally it will sort the table according to the first column). Are there any settings I can change to correct this? asyndeton 19:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macs 

message: Hi,
Please take a look at the table on this page.
In the markup of the page the table directly follows the heading ==Userboxes==. However, when the page is rendered as you will notice the table shows up at the bottom of the page below all other text. I can't figure out what causes this. Any suggestions are welcome. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 17:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for helping out. Much appreciated. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 09:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help request: Table moves to bottom of page 

message: Observe this wikitable:
さくら
怪獣
じゃない
もん！
さくら
怪獣
じゃない
もん！
If we try to float it to the right something ugly happens.
Lorem ipsum, quia dolor sit, amet, consectetur, adipisci uelit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt, ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quærat uoluptatem. Vt enim ad minima ueniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem uel eum iure reprehenderit, qui in ea uoluptate uelit esse, quam nihil molestiæ consequatur, uel illum, qui dolorem eum fugiat, quo uoluptas nulla pariatur? At uero eos et accusamus et iusto odio dignissimos ducimus, qui blanditiis præsentium uoluptatum deleniti atque corrupti, quos dolores et quas molestias excepturi sint, obcæcati cupiditate non prouident, similique sunt in culpa, qui officia deserunt mollitia animi, id est laborum.
さくら
怪獣
じゃない
もん！
Floating it on the left works better.
Lorem ipsum, quia dolor sit, amet, consectetur, adipisci uelit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt, ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quærat uoluptatem. Vt enim ad minima ueniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem uel eum iure reprehenderit, qui in ea uoluptate uelit esse, quam nihil molestiæ consequatur, uel illum, qui dolorem eum fugiat, quo uoluptas nulla pariatur? At uero eos et accusamus et iusto odio dignissimos ducimus, qui blanditiis præsentium uoluptatum deleniti atque corrupti, quos dolores et quas molestias excepturi sint, obcæcati cupiditate non prouident, similique sunt in culpa, qui officia deserunt mollitia animi, id est laborum.
さくら
怪獣
じゃない
もん！
How it probably should look, emulated by adding CSS.
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さくら
怪獣
じゃない
もん！
On the left.
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I thought the whole point of using CSS classes was not to have to use inline CSS. Shouldn't there be CSS classes for left/right floating tables that contain all the proper CSS? Shinobu 17:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, there should be.  However, this is a wikipedia-wide problem which is apparent with infoboxes and images as well.  I'll pass it on to the keepers of the site-wide CSS.  Thanks.  —EncMstr 21:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ack!  I couldn't find an example article demonstrating any problems.  It seems to be fixed.  If you do run across it, mention it on MediaWiki talk:Common.js.  —EncMstr 16:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: @It seems to be fixed.: O RLY? Then what are the CSS classes to use? Then I can fix Color Graphics Adapter without using inline CSS. Shinobu 14:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks okay, though two of the tables Full CGA 16-color palette and Dark Yellow get the text pretty close (but not touching or overlapping) at various window widths.  What do you see?  (Maybe you could upload a screen shot?) —EncMstr 15:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See :Image:Floating-Wikipedia-tables.png. The same problem occurs on the CGA article as well. It also occurs consistently across all browsers I have: Safari (screenshot), Konqueror, IE and Firefox, regardless of fontsize, and window width. This is why CSS class "wikitable" by itself cannot be used for floating tables, because it lookes hideous. Fixing it would currently necessitate the use of inline CSS, which is to be abhorred. Shinobu 03:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Thanks for prompting.)  Yep, that's the same thing I see.  The text isn't obscured, but it is "distracted" by being so close to the image.  Odd that your text doesn't fill in under the image.  I'm seeing it do that (correctly) with SeaMonkey and FireFox, though at some browser widths, bits of it "touch" the image.  Would you be willing to mention it on MediaWiki talk:Common.css? —EncMstr 14:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, I'll try to describe the problem as clearly as possible. If I fail at doing so I encourage you to comment on it there. Shinobu 11:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with floating wikitables 

message: Could anyone help - I have created 3 tables on this page here Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal, but to tidy things up I would very much like to put those 3 tables into 1 big table, with each arm of the canal forming a column, and underneath each arm column, would be the 2 columns for location and coordinates.  Sorry if that doesn't make any sense!  Parrot of Doom 11:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a stab at it using .  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Super smashing great :)  Thanks Parrot of Doom 13:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table within a table 

message: Does anyone know how to get a column with a background colour without having to add the |style="background:#FAF17F"| text on each individual row? I'm trying to do it on this example, with the yellow, red and green colours going all the way down to the bottom. glennb28 t • c 18:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there exists any convenient way, short of using an editor to do the repetitive work for you.  The html editors don't know of any way to optimize it.  (The wikitable syntax is closely related to the html table markup.)  —EncMstr 06:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that HTML has the colgroup and col tags, which very conveniently allow markup such as this to be specified. The real WTF is that MediaWiki's sanatizer filters these tags, treating them as if surrounded by a <nowiki>. Shinobu 04:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Column background 

message: I know about the "wikitable" and "sortable" parameters, but are there others? Where do I find the list if there are? In particular, can I set a table to "hideable"? How about a single column? Arthurrh 16:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked above and still haven't received an answer.  I just found Wikipedia:Catalogue of CSS classes or WP:CLASS.  It looks like these are table classes:
* wikitable
* sortable
* infobox
* navbox
* prettytable (obsoleted by wikitable)
* collapsible
* collapsed
* autocollapse
* toccolours
* messagebox
* standard-talk
I may have missed or added some by mistake.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I saw those classes. I'd really like to have hideable tables and columns. Maybe I'll just try the obvious and put the word "hideable" and see what happens. ;-) Arthurrh 18:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I think collapsible is the ticket. Arthurrh 18:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table parameters 

message: I'm trying to float a table on the right side of the body text of the article Juice Plus and can't seem to get it right. The table looks OK but when the code is dropped in at the beginning of the article, all of the article's text appears in the table -- I am trying to keep it left justified outside the table. Can anyone help? Any general suggestions for making the table look better aesthetically (e.g. borders, colors, etc.) would also be appreciated. Thanks. Rhode Island Red 19:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There were some missing "close table" delimiters.  I added three, and removed the break.  See if that works better.  —EncMstr 20:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need the align=right, that is included in the infobox class.  The margin auto was making it center.  I would think there wood be a template for this.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You rock brother! I had a feeling it was something as simple as that. Much appreciated! Rhode Island Red 21:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help With Right Floating Table

message: Is there a way to have a table autamatically split into a certain ammount of columns?
I ask because i have a long list of rows (growing regulary) and it's hard to split them into 4 columns by moving the 3 | all the times. --89.61.200.168 16:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Automatically split table into X columns 

message: Instead of include the message: 
This is a copy of the master help page at Meta. Do not edit this copy.
Edits will be lost in the next update from the master page. See below for more information.
It would be a protected page (none can edit it in Wikipedia, but yes in Meta). --Nopetro 08:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit 

message: See User:Kotniski/Sandbox. When I use class=wikitable the cellpadding parameter stops working. When I don't use class=wikitable, the borders of merged cells start disappearing. Can anyone help solve at least one of these problems?--Kotniski 11:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The wikitable class uses CSS styles that will override certain styles.  See MediaWiki:Common.css and search for "wikitable" to see the styles.  You can use style="empty-cells:show;" to show empty cells by default.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  14:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, thanks!--Kotniski 15:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can't get my table quite right 

message: Wikipedia:How to make a table in wikipedia
I started this template page, so people could just copy and paste the code to make the tables they want.  I personally think a page with table examples and templates to copy and paste is more user friendly than having to read through all the stuff on the current Help:Table page. Though I think there is a need for both pages, because the current help page explains the whole process, so it's more educational for people who want to really understand what they are doing, rather than quickly just creating a table.  Further templates could be added to it and/or a standard table/s could appear there to help make wikipedia tables consistent.  A vivid dreamer (talk) 04:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice idea - will definitely be useful!--Kotniski (talk) 09:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: This is a good idea—it took me quite a while to get up to speed on table markup.  I was going to note that template  exists, but you aren't using the term template in the usual Wikipedia context; the more common term here for what you are describing in your article is boilerplate.  --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  11:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Templates for various tables might be useful