Talk:Kola nut

message: This article currently deals with three subjects:
*the botanical genus Cola (complete with a taxonomy box).
*the nut or seed pod of that genus, particularly of a few of the over 100 species of that genus.
*the flavor extracted from those seed pods, and beverages containing that flavor
Is the common name of the genus "Kola" or "Kola Nut"? If the former, the article needs to be moved to "Kola" or "Cola (genus)". If the latter, the lede needs to be rewritten. Frappyjohn (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Organizational issues

message: "Kola nuts contain high amounts of N-nitroso compounds which are carcinogenic. In Nigeria, where the chewing of Kola nuts is a common practice, there is a high incidence of oral and gastrointestinal cancer which may be related to this habit."
There is no information given to back up this interesting claim. The statement is "original research" at best, spurious at worst.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.53.120 (talk) 03:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Safety issues

message: The article describes tannins in the Kola nut as carcinogenic, but the tannins article describes tannins in food as antioxidants. Why the discrepancy?
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Hey, erm, it says the kola nut has a "high caffeine content" but under Caffeine it says it contains "small amounts". Erowid doesn't mention it at all.
#L
:all I can tell you is that you don't want to eat one of those sections all at once, unless of course you want to be up for the next 24 hours. Taking a piece the size of your little finger to the bottom of your nail would be enough.  Eating several pieces that size would make me feel like I had too much strong coffee, too quickly. Seem to remember eating white ones (in Ikot Ekpene), not just a section that had a white covering, as it is described in the picture.   Maybe the kola nut has some other drug in it beside caffeine. --Rcollman 20:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is most likely somethings other than caffeine in the nut. Ive come across an article that shares how the kola nut was used to treat other problems. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3842857/ Erick v1998 (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tannins? 

message: so what's the strongest flavored cola beverage? More cola, less sweet. Mo' bitter, less fizz. Can you get kola extract or buy kola nuts for chewing? I'm not looking for the most caffine, but the strongest kola flavor.
It is Mostly found in Africa
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How Much Of A Nut Is The Nut
Hi what i want to know is how much of a nut is the Kola nut? I am allergic to nuts and there is a fat fighting tablet that has kola nut in... so am i allergic to it or not????....... only one way to find out!! (Beca)
I have recently bought some Kola Nut Tea bags,whould this have the same effect as crushed Kola nuts?
Richard..London  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.26.150 (talk) 20:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  pure kola 

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: kola nuts r from africa  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.93.37 (talk) 03:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's one product available with Kola nut ingredient, and that is the German Scho-Ka-Kola, only available there. Traditionally, at least since the 1930s, it was in a tin but is now in a plastic wrapper. That would be a good product to grow in the tropical North of Australia, but the coffee industry would lose their caffeine monopoly, so they mightn't like it. 58.174.224.15 (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kola facts 

message: the list of effects sounds boosterish [everything is wonderful]. no mention of the role of caffeine in anxiety disorders? 123.208.88.40 (talk) 13:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: compare with
WP:Coca-Cola_formula http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_formula "Some natural colas also include cola nut; Coca-Cola does not, and chemical testing reveals none.[2]" [2] http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/05/scienceshot-how-natural-is-your.html?rss=1 "When the team followed the same procedure with a liter of Coca-Cola, which does not claim to use cola nuts in its recipe, they found no protein signature." 124.170.16.62 (talk) 05:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting idea to tie in with this topic Erick v1998 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "but Coca-Cola still uses kola in its original recipe" 

message: I don't know much about the kola nut but ran across the following source while doing research on another topic ...
* Kola in the History of West Africa by Paul E. Lovejoy
You can read this online for free if you have a JSTOR account. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 11:08, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New academic quality source. 

message: My edit was removed as disruptive. Including slang of the nut from worlswide cultures is disruptive. Elucidating that kolatin, a chemical included on many websites of respute is actually a catechin-caffeine mix that I can find a source for. This is to promote wikipedia as a greater source of onformation than other websites that describe botanicals. This is utterly absurd to claim as disruptive and actually backwards and make wikipedia  a shambles compared fo fhe superior place it could be. Please if another editor will review my edits that have been unfairly removed as disruptive it will be much appreciated. This is a shame to wikipedia and unjust. BrendanKennedy (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: - English appears to be a difficult language for you to use with grammar appropriate for an encyclopedia (evident by the numerous errors in your statement above), as shown by the illiterate edit here. Your edit was disruptive because each section you edited created language errors. You could have proposed your edit first on this talk page for editorial input, or sought help with your use of English at the Teahouse, WP:TEA. Your edit statement, "The nearby Finland can help “finnish” with some bissy nuts to keep busy or maybe some pepsi or work like the devil with coca cola", confirmed that you were editing either in bad faith or with insufficient language skills. Other points: 1) there appear to be numerous common names for kola nuts used regionally in Africa, according to this source you produced, but none is common in mainstream English sources, so is a WP:UNDUE issue; 2) searching PubMed or Drugs.com for "kolatin" yields no reviews, so there is no WP:SCIRS source to include in the article, and no evidence that Coca-Cola or Pepsi now use kola nuts in manufacturing; 3) the PRC website is dubious as a source, as it appears to not be peer-reviewed or widely cited in scientific literature. I don't think it adds anything significant to the article by being included. Without high-quality reviews or reliable mainstream media, there is no good reason to change the article. --Zefr (talk) 01:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slang for nut and common myths. 

message: The sources don’t have references and are only here say. BrendanKennedy (talk) 18:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kola nut ingredient not used. 

message: Apparently a joke. No kola nut is grown in Turkey or its surrounding regions. Someone has been having a good laugh. Behemoth21 (talk) 18:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The map 

message: — Assignment last updated by Mantaray2 (talk) 18:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Black Foodways in the United States

message: For my Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, I found a substantial amount of new information on the nut and clarified other pieces of information throughout the article. I noticed that much of my work was deleted just hours after I posted it. The editor wrote that my information was inaccurate and my sources were not reliable, but I primarily used academic authors and trusted health web pages. I wanted to start a discussion to learn more about why my work was deleted because the information that I found is valuable for users to read. Ndtta (talk) 19:13, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Your edit reverted here was a mixture of correct minor facts (WP:UNDUE), outdated content, and misinformation. Healthline and Medical News Today are not reliable WP:MEDRS sources for human health topics. There is no MEDRS evidence that consuming kola nuts affects weight loss, infections, eye disorders, the risk of prostate cancer or other diseases you mentioned. Zefr (talk) 19:41, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a need to remove facts just because they are "minor." Additionally, it is normal for information on historical events to be from older sources— I don't think that it is fair to delete information because it is "outdated" when it covers events from a long time ago. The information that was posted from Healthline and Medical News Today is not MEDRS based, but they still provide more context on usage throughout the years. I am not making claims about what the nut does, but simply explaining how it has been used throughout the years.   Ndtta (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information Deleted