Talk:Ismail Haniyeh

message: "We will never recognize the usurper Zionist government and will continue our jihad-like movement until the liberation of Jerusalem."
This is a highly provocative quote, and the link given for it (http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/12/08/ap3240289.html) doesn't work. Furthermore, it practically contradict other statements made in another interview (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/24/AR2006022402317_pf.html). Can someone either verify the accuracy or remove the quote? --Queenrani 23:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jihad Against Usurpers? 

message: Some foreign language wikipedias (including the Arabic one) claim he was born in 1962 and Not 1963 like stated now. can anyone verify the correct information? Dberliner 18:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth date

message: "he was incarcerated for three years by Israeli authorities because of his continued role in leading the resistance movement"...somehow I'm guessing that's not the way the Israelis put it at the time...were there official charges against him in connection with any particular incident?  Dsol 11:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: incarceration

message: Is he known to support the Hamas idea for a generation-long cease-fire? If so, it should probably be noted in the article. Zocky | picture popups 14:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Being a "moderate"...

message: See  or --68.214.59.199 05:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also this one. Feel free. I think you need to register an account in order to upload, though. El_C 05:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better photo would be good 

message: This article (and the current main page news box) says Haniya "is" the Prime Minister (actually I think the main page says, in news-speak present-tense, that he "succeeds" as PM but that amounts to the same thing.)  Now, I am a little hazy on exactly how parliamentary systems work, but doesn't he actually have to present a government to the parliament (whatever it is called in this case) and have it approved, before he takes office as Prime Minister?  To my understanding, all that has happened is that Hamas has designated him to be the Prime Minister and that the "president" has formally asked him to form a government.  Those events mean that he will be Prime Minister, but he isn't yet.  Am I incorrect?  6SJ7 14:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. He is not the PM, at least, yet. Please do not put wrong facts. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.7 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He is officially the Prime Minister-designate. El_C 07:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jumping the gun? 

message: A long-term ceasefire is what Hamas calls a "hudna."  look up the article here on wikipedia; it may just mean that for non-muslim enemies, there can be a period of calm and quiet while the muslims are 'weak.'
Haniya seems like a pragmatist in comparison to other leaders because he knows what terms to avoid and what americans want to hear.  He is rooted in Hamas' radical ideology and is not a moderate.
see also interview with Haniya with Washington post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/24/AR2006022402317_pf.html
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.117.74 (talk • contribs) 10:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: being a moderate 

message: can we add Ismail Haniyeh's email (removed) base on the email that was published in the Guardian? 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1743628,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.102.132 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not unless he signs himself up for a WP account and posts it on his user page (and even then, we'd probably have to ask permission). My email address can be found relatively easily with a quick internet search, but WP policy is such that it is not possible to publicly post my address without my consent. Incidentally, it may also be illegal, but I'm not sure if that's the case in the US state in which WP is based. --Nema Fakei 15:30, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not understand why it cannot be mentioned in the article.  Which Wikipedia policy prohibits it?  It was published in one of the best-known newspapers in the world, apparently because Haniyeh himself mentioned it in the signature of his letter, and the newspaper put it on the Internet.  In effect, Haniyeh has already given his consent.  (And besides, the link appearing above is to the letter that contains his e-mail address, so the address is already linked-to from Wikipedia; the anon editor was just suggesting making the link more direct.)  6SJ7 04:39, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ismail Haniyeh email address 

message: Haniyeh has always struck me as one of the more moderate Hamas leaders. I noted that the Al Jazeera link points out that he has repeatedly said that Hamas could find some peace with Israel, but the Forbes link is cited with him using more militant language. The Forbes link is broken and unretrievable. The article should reflect his position according to the sources that work. MarkB2 15:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sources often note that Haniyeh and other Hamas leaders will say they will accept a reduced Palestinian State in the interests of peace, while also noting they use language about continued conflict for all of the territory. Even the updated Hamas Charter seems to say that they will accept a two state solution while also saying that won't end the conflict.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

text: It basically means that they're willing to go along with the old 1970s "stages plan" in the interest of "national consensus" without mitigating in any way their ultimate goals.  Most people in the West and Israel who understand it would not consider it to be any true sign of "moderation".  What Wikipedia has on the stages plan seems to be at PLO's Ten Point Program... AnonMoos (talk) 13:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Moderate

message: :Sources often note that Haniyeh and other Hamas leaders will say they will accept a reduced Palestinian State in the interests of peace, while also noting they use language about continued conflict for all of the territory. Even the updated Hamas Charter seems to say that they will accept a two state solution while also saying that won't end the conflict.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It basically means that they're willing to go along with the old 1970s "stages plan" in the interest of "national consensus" without mitigating in any way their ultimate goals.  Most people in the West and Israel who understand it would not consider it to be any true sign of "moderation".  What Wikipedia has on the stages plan seems to be at PLO's Ten Point Program... AnonMoos (talk) 13:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: 2024

message: just found this article which seems to contradict his arrest dates and adds interesting perspective?
anyone want to do a an edit
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/26/1760796.aspx --Sereneami (talk) 19:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictions?

message: 1. The article in reference is dated "Tuesday 22 May 2007", and not "30 June", as mentioned in text. 
2. There are no death threats, as becomes clear to those reading the source: «Ephraim Sneh, Israel's deputy defence minister, declared in a radio interview that "no one" in the Hamas leaderships was "immune from strike".» That's it. There is a threat, but it is not personal towards Haniyeh. And it does not come from the government as a whole, but from one deputy minister. The source article's title is pure journalist misjudgement.
This section must be removed.
 --Tangerine (talk) 00:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Death Threats

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Given that this man is slated for future Hamas leadership, his views on leadership and the values he would use to lead the country are important.  I note that a recently published book from the Stanford University Press quoted him as making a speech at a carnival in Gaza in the run up to the 2014 conflict with Israel where he stated to the crowd through loudspeakers: "we are a people who value death, just like our enemies value life."  I propose to add a small heading under "View on Osama Bin Laden" which states 
Views on Value of Death
At a carnival leading up to the the 2014 confrontation with Israel, Haniyeh reportedly stated to the crowd that he is in favor of promoting within Palestinian society a "culture of death" which he contrasted to the Palestinians "enemies" culture of life.  His precise words as quoted were "we are a people who value death just like our enemies value life."" 
Jonmayer18 (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to "Views" Section 

message: In the personal life section, it is stated at the end of the second paragraph that some of Ismail Haniyeh's sister's children have served in the IDF. I have read the source(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/1520134/Hamas-leaders-three-sisters-live-secretly-in-Israel-as-full-citizens.html) it said in the article and found this "Some of their offspring have even served in the Israeli army". How does this vague sentence from a newspaper article support's the wikipedia article's claim that Ismail Haniyeh's nephews served in the IDF. I have even looked onto other sources online to find evidence but couldn't.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousifya (talk • contribs) 20:31, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction 

message: Change "In September 2016 reports indicate that Haniyeh will replace Khaled Meshaal as head leader of Hamas." To "In September 2016 reports indicated Haniyeh would replace Khaled Meshaal as Chief of Hamas's Political Bureau." Phrasing is in present tense and out-of-date. Haniyeh did replaced Meshaal as Chief of the Political Bureau. Entire sentence is somewhat unnecessary. 
Similarly, "This trip, viewed as a campaign commencement, further confirms reports that Haniyeh is indeed replacing Meshaal in the coming months." should be "This trip, interpreted as a campaign commencement, bolstered reports that Haniyeh was to replace Meshaal." Ought to be combined with updated information about Haniyeh's appointment as Chief, etc. Ox Eyed (talk) 23:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 23:54, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 March 2019 

message: I offer a current portrait → :File:03-03-2020 Ismail Haniyeh.jpg.--Semenov.m7 (talk) 13:15, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! I boldly updated his portrait photo. The previous one was blurry and low-res. The new one is high-res and taken in better lighting conditions. ImTheIP (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  File 

message: it says he has 3 children, correct is 13. 1177BC (talk) 01:35, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  infobox is incorrect 

message: sorry, nearly alll articles  are in german
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, die Türkei und Hamas-Führer Ismail Hanija
he lifes in Qatar and Turkey
--Über-Blick (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  more than one Meeting with Erdoğan 

message: Israeli occupation administration? Israel is a country, it has it's own government. 86.120.244.53 (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty obvious that the term is inherently biased and inappropriate. Instead of deflecting and asking for specific changes and a reliable source, you could have just removed the word occupation, as there is no such thing as “Israeli occupation authorities”, and you are obviously taking a stance by using the term. 2A0D:6FC2:4000:2900:98E1:C7B1:3EC4:1C18 (talk) 19:13, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 September 2021 

message: Replace all occurrences of the term “Israeli occupation authorities” with the names of the relevant legal entities, such as “Israeli military court”, “Israeli government”. Wikipedia’s role is to provide users with factual information, and by using ambiguous and politically charged terms like this, it deprives readers of clear and accurate information. In this specific case, it is not clear which legal entity is responsible for the detaining of Haniyeh. CucumberWaterForCustomerOnly (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, just saw the edit. Thanks CucumberWaterForCustomerOnly (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2023 

message: Ismail haniya is dead 2601:205:8301:54B0:B955:3EDB:3E3:B238 (talk) 07:04, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 08:56, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2023 

message: Please update this article. The article Yahya Sinwar says Sinwar took over in 2017 and is mostly considered responsible for the attack and has a hardliner type background. Have Haniyeh and Meshaal left Hamas? Ben Azura (talk) 15:39, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Mashal is retired since 2017 when Haniyeh took over. Haniyeh lives in Qatar and is in charge of Hamas overall. Sinwar is the leader of the Gaza Strip branch of Hamas, so many governance decisions are being made by him. 25stargeneral (talk) 17:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: Add :Category:Palestinian billionaires to the page. Automatik (talk) 03:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. I'm afraid this one will no doubt be controversial, and thus, will need consensus.  Spintendo  04:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Spintendo The article does mention: "Haniyeh leads a lavish lifestyle in Qatar,[65] and his wealth is estimated at 2.5-4 billion USD.". Adding the category would just be consistent with the content. Automatik (talk) 00:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 December 2023 

message: Hi! I think 2023 should be changed to 2024 in the lead section unless something happened with where he lives. Aiue (talk) 08:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 February 2024 

message: During the Pope Benedict XVI Islam controversy in 2006, Haniyeh strongly objected to the Pope's remarks: "In the name of the Palestinian people, we condemn the Pope’s remarks on Islam. These remarks go against the truth and touch the heart of our faith." He also denounced the Palestinian attacks on churches in the West Bank and Gaza.
People who can't get past the source paywall (NYT) may have trouble figuring this out. Who was denouncing the attacks, the Pope, or Haniyeh? Also "Palestinian" attacks on churches attended by Palestinians?
The NYT article says,
"In Gaza, the Palestinian prime minister, Ismail Haniya, denounced attacks on some half-dozen churches there and in the West Bank. In Bethlehem, sacred to Christians as the birthplace of Jesus and home to many Arab Christians, police presence was higher than usual.
'The Christian brothers are a part of the Palestinian people, and I heard the highest Christian authority in Palestine denouncing the statements against Islam and against Muslims,' Mr. Haniya told reporters."
It appears that the attacks Haniyeh denounced (presumably from Islamists) were themselves in response to the Pope's statements. 
Based on this, the section in question should be modified to read:
During the Pope Benedict XVI Islam controversy in 2006, Haniyeh strongly objected to the Pope's remarks: "In the name of the Palestinian people, we condemn the Pope’s remarks on Islam. These remarks go against the truth and touch the heart of our faith." Haniyeh also denounced attacks on churches in the West Bank and Gaza that had been carried out in response to the controversy.
'''
Or something along those lines. Evaporation123 (talk) 04:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear wording in one section 

message: The CNN source notes that one of the three grandkids killed in the strike was underage. That should be noted.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 09:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Also worth adding that the IDF described his three sons as "three Hamas military operatives" although perhaps their names and job titles aren't necessary.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 09:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haniyeh's grandkids 

message: There is no need for middle names here per MOS:FIRSTBIO: "However, if the person is conventionally known by only their first and last names and disambiguation is not required, any middle names should be omitted." Makeandtoss (talk) 15:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll self-revert for now. Thank you for bringing that to my attention NAADAAN (talk) 16:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the changes as well as the application of it across different articles. Makeandtoss (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  MOSBIO