Talk:Rosario Central

message: Please mind!
The content that you people were restoring is incorrect and utterly goofy.
:OK, good work then. It just looked a bit suspicious to see the article almost entirely blanked without any explanation - always best to post on the talk page if you delete whole sections. sjorford 14:34, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: article

message: Since former coach Bauza complained about the fans attitude on regular matches, the team is widely known in Rosario as "Los Sin Aliento"
I wonder why the admin consider adding that fact to the information "vandalism". 
This fact could be verified at:
http://www.lacapital.com.ar/2005/06/15/ovacion/noticia_203959.shtml  -- La Capital is a trustable source. 
Also. I think the fact that it is the only team in Argentina whose plays the cheering chants on the stadium speaker systems should be mentioned. 
http://www.eleslabon.org.ar/noticias_desarrollo.shtml?x=28646
--200.88.30.106 22:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahem, the team is not "widely known as Los Sin Aliento" - it's "taunted by rival team Newell's Old Boys by calling them Los Sin Aliento". It'd be like adding Pechos Fríos as a nickname for Newell's (worse, because this is comparatively very new). The main nicknames are, as you know, canallas and leprosos, which have been known and well established for decades. Besides that, I don't see anywhere that RC is the only team to do that with the speakers. It's probably true (and what a bad idea) but it's not verifiable. Anyway, I invite other editors to give their opinions. I'm not interested in "winning" this discussion, just making it clear why I reverted. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 01:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Palbo about the nicknames. We have to see things from a historic point of view: the fact that the sounds system was installed by a presidency is not important if it was removed short after, or if other clubs use it. It is nevertheless an interesting point, but for that you should found a more suitable reference than those you provide. Mariano(t/c) 07:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sin Aliento?

message: I've just undone a move of this article to CA Rosario Central by . This page is linked to by tens of others, so the redirect will have to be fixed if the move goes on; in any case, the proper title would be Club Atlético Rosario Central. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 21:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undoing move 

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message: It is considered by FIFA, as one of the most traditional clubs in the Argentine football.
What does that mean? How can a football club be ‘traditional’? How does FIFA rank ‘traditional’ clubs? Please elucidate this sentence. — 37  (talk) 02:07, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not an english speaker as my mother language, so I understand that the word "classic" was the same meaning as "traditional". Fifa declared lots of clubs as "clubes clásicos" (classic clubs), and Rosario Central is in that list of 11 argentine clubs. --Tsoukalos tiene razón (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You claim that FIFA declared lots of clubs as "clubes clásicos". I very much doubt this is relevant information. If you, however, insist on including this, than this claim should be further explained in the article. Like, what are the characteristics of a "classic club". How does FIFA select "clubes clásicos". How is this recognition by FIFA relevant? Is there some kind of award involved? The current sentence does not provide any real information. Also, I do not understand why you added two different references to the same Spanish article after this sentence. Is there some kind of logic behind this? And please do not simply remove the Elucidate-template. — 37  (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lots of clubs in the world that were declared as classics by FIFA. It think that it´s an honour for a club to be declared as a "classic" club by the most important organization in football around the world. It´s very important! And the question about "How does FIFA select "clubes clásicos"? you should ask it to FIFA, not to me... It doesn´t matter how they say "it´s a classic club, and this club in not" The fact is that FIFA made a list of clubs from different countries and Central is in the list of Argentina... I will remove any kind of thing that disturb the normal operation of the article.--Tsoukalos tiene razón (talk) 23:44, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It’s not because you think it´s "very important" and "an honour" for a club to be declared as a "classic club" – whatever that may be – that it really should be included in this article. If this recognition by FIFA is relevant, reliable sources should exist. If you cannot yourself elucidate this claim, you should not remove the template. That is considered inappropriate. — 37  (talk) 13:25, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Here is the FIFA´s source in spanish . Look for it in the english version. Is that alla right??? --Tsoukalos tiene razón (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this is not all right. More information explaining the statement should be provided in the article. This is precisely the point of the Elucidate-template. This is not an unnecessary question as no English-language sources exist that give information on the claimed "recognition" by FIFA of clubs being "traditional" or "classic". The template invites other editors to add more information. Do not simply remove it. Cheers. — 37  (talk) 20:31, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Most traditional'