Talk:Idrottsparken (Sundsvall)

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. to Idrottsparken (Sundsvall), chosen per WP:OTHEROPTIONS as there is greater implied consensus for the original nomination. There is also some support for Sundsvalls Idrottspark, so if desired another discussion can be opened for that title. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ASUKITE 15:46, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: NP3 Arena (Sundsvall) →  – According to WP:FOOTBALL, unsponsored names should be used where possible. Sponsored names should only be used if the stadium has only ever been known by a sponsored name. This is not the case with NP3 Arena, as it was known as "Idrottsparken" for over 100 years (1903–2005 and 2017). Mattias321 (talk) 22:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'll note that per WP:LOCALCONSENSUS, "unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope". In this case specifically, football stadiums are not automatically exempt from WP:COMMONNAME. 162 etc. (talk) 03:20, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *But in this case, "Idrottsparken" is a very well-established name for the stadium. It's not reasonable to move the page everytime a new sponsor comes along. // Mattias321 (talk) 10:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Please cite reliable English-language sources that confirm the common name "Idrottsparken". 162 etc. (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Since GIF Sundsvall is a rather small club in an international context, there are very few English-language sources in general (StadiumDatabase is one example). Sundsvall Municipality and GIF Sundsvall include both names (Idrottsparken and NP3 Arena). It is mentioned in several newspapers as well (Aftonbladet, Aftonbladet, Expressen and Sundsvalls Tidning are a few examples). Moreover, it is worth noting that we, when it comes to football stadiums in Sweden, have articles called Nya Parken (not Platinumcars Arena), Stadion (not Eleda Stadion), Påskbergsvallen (not Varberg Energi Arena), Eyravallen (not Behrn Arena) etc. I don't see why Idrottsparken (NP3 Arena) should be an exception. This is also the case in general (as Number 57 mentioned), with well-known examples such as Westfalenstadion (Signal Iduna Park) and City of Manchester Stadium (Etihad Stadium). // Mattias321 (talk) 18:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: At Talk:City of Manchester Stadium#Requested move 28 April 2019, many editors challenged the validity of the so-called consensus cited by User:GiantSnowman and User:Number 57.  Ignoring WP:COMMONNAME in favour of a title that is more acceptable or convenient to editors is a disservice to Wikipedia readers. 162 etc. (talk) 21:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, love to cite a discussion from nearly 3 years ago! We have always used the official name rather than the common name for football stadiums, see Boleyn Ground (which is far better known as 'Upton Road') as just one example. GiantSnowman 21:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I refuted your Boleyn Ground analogy at this RM last August.  In that discussion, you argued unsuccessfully in favour of the title "City of Coventry Stadium" - which is neither an official nor a common name for Coventry Building Society Arena.  I understand if you have a personal dislike of sponsored stadium names - many do - but we as editors need to follow policies, not personal biases. 162 etc. (talk) 23:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 December 2021