Talk:Yoshi

message: First for reception, it should say yoshi is one of trhe most popular nintendo characters of all time. also, in japan, yoshi is mostly liked by younger kids, (which is why yoshi story is what it is today). Also for yoshi's speech, i've seen yoshi commercials on youtube where he speaked (in japanese, so i dont know what he said). Should that be included? or mabye not since its an ad?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.100.129 (talk) 01:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A little more info about speech and reception

message: Should we add a section for Yoshi's history/origins? Yoshi's history was explained in the Super Mario Bros. cartoon series episode "Mama Yoshi," in which Luigi tells the story of how he found the dinosaur. Is this considered canon? Graymornings (talk) 10:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. It was made by a company which wasn't involved in the making of the games. --Grandy02 (talk) 18:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoshi's history? 

message: Yoshi's first appearance was in Super Mario Bros 2 as that boss at the end of most levels. --guideX 12/29/2008
:That was Birdo. And no, Yoshi's first appearance wasn't Super Mario Bros. 3, either, the transformation of one of the kings into a Yoshi is exclusive to the later remakes. Yoshi first appeared in Super Mario World. --Grandy02 (talk) 20:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yoshi's Cookie was released in 92/93, and SMW in 90. So, he really debuted in SMW  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.57.46.27 (talk) 08:43, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoshi's first appearance 

message: This looks really unclear at the beginning of the article to me. The fact that macrons (overbars) are normally unclear over the letter, "i", is compounded by it being italicized and then obscured at the end of the word by the superscripted "?" link. It is illegible on my 1024x768 ~45cm screen with Firefox 3.0.4 on Modern skin. I think those are pretty average settings, so it should be clearly written. The template seems to be properly used, so I suggest re-working the template. This is an important point because I have seen native Japanese bewildered by their "ヨッシー (Yosshī)" being called "ヨシ (Yoshi)", a non-interchangeable word with its own separate meaning. I would like to see what you folks think though before attempting to influence the template. :)--Thecurran (talk) 14:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Stifle (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yosshī? 

message: This article has been at the same status for...forever. We have neither development information nor reception as to why he's an important character outside of being a Nintendo mascot. Could we merge it at this point?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The only information on Yoshi's creation I ever read about is that they wanted Mario riding a dinosaur ever since they finished the original Super Mario Bros., but it was impossible technically. . Hm, not sure if the article should be merged, though, since there is a series of numerous games based around this character. Maybe it should be changed so that it covers both the character and the game series, with much less focus on fiction (seriously, many people surely see this article as "crufty") and more focus on gameplay and game reception? Currently, "Yoshi (series)" just redirects here. Will you also propose Wario to be merged, which lacks real-life information, too (he has become much more independent from the Mario series than Yoshi, though)? --Grandy02 (talk) 18:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think either Yoshi needs a big makeover (Info in the "species" section repeats "characterisics" info.), or it needs to get merged. It has way too much information to just throw away though. Blake (Talk·Edits) 16:04, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

text: If Yoshi were to be merged, where would information on the Yoshi series go? In List of the Mario series characters? In Yoshi (series)? I agree that the article needs work, but Yoshi is a major Nintendo mascot and has a role outside of the Mario series, so merging doesn't seem to make much sense.--Yair rand (talk) 20:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we have already established that it isnt going to be merged since there is too much to throw away. Just try and find references for stuff and clean up the article. Maybe we can just make a Yoshi (series) article and put Yoshi's character/species in there. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The stuff you have added is good, but you need to find some reliable sources to back up those statements. This can be just about any site that isn't a Fan-site, forum, or blog. Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: I was reading the (oddly enough) Twilight Princess Iwata Asks, and this bit of information was posted:
:"Ah, I see! The really interesting thing about what you've just told us is that Miyamoto-san was "speaking from a functional point of view". It wasn't that he wanted a character riding the wolf for narrative reasons. Rather, the reason was to do with its function in the game, as "viewing an animal directly from behind all the time is boring." It's really interesting to hear that the idea of having someone riding the wolf was because of this. I really feel that this is the thinking of someone who worked in industrial design. Sidetracking just a little, when Miyamoto-san got Mario to ride Yoshi in Super Mario World, the thinking behind that idea was "functional". What I mean is that the SNES was a console which didn't allow a lot of sprites (the technical mechanism that allows graphics to be displayed on the screen) to be lined up on-screen at the same time. To explain why Yoshi ended up looking like that, it's because that shape allows you to limit the number of sprites lined up on screen when Mario and Yoshi are overlapping. You'll understand if you take a look at the original blueprint that Yoshi was designed purely from a functional point of view. So the reason Yoshi ended up being a dinosaur is not because we wanted Mario to ride a dinosaur. Rather, it was because something like a dinosaur was the shape which was allowed by the technical limitations. Sorry, I digressed slightly there! (laughs) Kitagawa-san, did you have any "tables upended"?" 
Do what you will with this information. --Bentendo24 (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoshi development information. 

message: I again disagree with using the Brawl image. Not using the "secondary series" reasoning [at least not prominently], it's mostly the positives of the 2D image - it shows defining qualities of the character, such as its art style, his abilities, etc. Being in 3D or having more detail and being more recent have both been effectively "erased" as arguments for an image's inclusion. We see examples of this all over - Solid Snake, Link, and the Street Fighter character articles, only two of which use the most recent art released [and those only use them because it's the only art available for use]. In the spirit of representing the character, I think something that covers the most bases should be used.
For reference's sake,  shows the original image. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In all honesty I'd feel better going with his Super Mario World art if we had a choice there. The SMW2 artwork isn't bad in itself, but Baby Mario's presence and the fact Yoshi's back is turned really scream that a better image can and should be used in place.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 09:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's definitely an idea. Can you show what artwork you're specifying? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 09:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

text: We've already had this argument at Talk:Yoshi/Archive 2#Image_edit-warring; I fail to see what's changed here (other than bare assertions that the arguments have been 'effectively "erased"', whatever that means, even though there are no binding precedents). The Brawl image is far higher-quality and shows the character, rather than introducing an additional character with the potential to confuse readers. The image with Baby Mario can be used later in the page, if desired, to explain how Yoshi carries riders. Stifle (talk) 09:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally, an image from New Super Mario Bros. Wii or Super Mario Galaxy 2 might be better than both other options. Stifle (talk) 09:21, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, that might be a good idea. I completely forgot about Yoshi in those games. It's either this or this. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 09:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would rather it be a recent 3D rendered image of Yoshi without Mario riding him. That's because it's the "updated" character design and looks different from the older image.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the side-view Super Mario World image.  He's not in some absurd pose like with the Brawl and SMW2 images, and Yoshi's defining characteristics are very clear.  Plus, as a side-view, it matches up with the sketch image of Mario riding Yoshi, showing how his design has changed. --gakon5 (talk / contribs) 17:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I like the SMW image over the others. Nifboy (talk) 02:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoshi image 

message: Aparently they're androgynous.   Throwaway85 (talk) 05:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yoshi himself is a male, this can be verified in many sources. The species is, obviously, androgynous. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender 

message: he/she lays eggs but i cant figure it out  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.47.82 (talk) 15:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As a specific character, Nintendo has made it very clear that Yoshi's male; unlike Catherine they have not backtracked on the gender claim. —Jeremy (v^_^v Boribori!) 23:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Done At the very minimum, the gender pronouns in the sentence now match and the category has been removed.  --McDoobAU93 20:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  is yoshi a boy or girl 

message: Yoshi's proper species name is Wazhon (sometimes written as Wazon) even if you don't know it. So I don't get while people keep deleting it. Ottokarone (talk) 01:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for that? Reach Out to the Truth 02:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wazhon 

message: In the middle of disagreements would probably be a New Super Mario Bros. Wii image of Yoshi. While the debate was in late 2009, I see what they're getting at. If such a suitable image can be found, it would provide the details. The only other option I could think of is using more than three images (including the SMW2 image), but I don't want the article to become somewhat of a copyvio either.
And yes, I do know the mention of an NSMBWii image was also in the late 2009 thread. mechamind90 07:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  There must be another suitable image. 

message: I have seen false information posted about Birdo on the actual page, and as such, have deleted it. It was obviously fake, but just to follow guidelines I looked at the supposed source, which wasn't cited for obvious reasons. I am posting this here so that anyone who wants to maintain this page can be on the lookout for this problem from now on.  And might I add that I'm insulted by the immaturity of whoever put up the false info, simply because it was appalling. Redgamehunter (talk) 06:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birdo... 

message: I'm aware this is brought up in previous conversations in the archive, but is Yoshi still considered a Dinosaur by Nintendo? I'm aware that in Super Mario World he lives in Dinosaur Land, but in Super Mario Galaxy 2 he is referred to as a "space dragon" in the game. I can't find any particular source saying this, but it's available here: , It's also at 0:46 at this youtube video. (might want to turn off annotations and audio to watch this video). here. So should we update this to the current definition? I know you can cite video game text for wikipedia, but this isn't really my area of expertise. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:13, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done [and cited]. :) Androids101 | Visit me! | talk | contribs 23:54, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Dinosaur or Dragon

message: In Super Mario Bros 3 yoshi first appears next to toad as a transformation of the king  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.157 (talk) 08:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that's only in the Super Mario Bros. All-Stars version. Not in the original game. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early yoshi spotting 

message: yoshi was mentioned in TFS DBZ abridged in a few early episodes  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.118.146 (talk) 20:11, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  mentions 

message: I noticed that the article typically uses, "Yoshis," to refer to them in the plural sense... However, in the intro to Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, it uses, "Yoshies."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nanakon (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pluralization 

message: The quote in question from the Nintendo character guide that gives Yoshi's name as "T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas" may in fact be satirical, judging from it giving Mario's species as "homo nintendonus". Given this quote, can we definitively call the Nintendo character guide in question a valid source? ONR (talk) 01:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at it in context, it is clearly a spoof of scientific names. Instead of Homo Sapiens Spaiens, it is "Homo Nintendonus" and so on. Treating it as the character's "real name" is giving it undue weight. Ozdarka (talk) 05:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Validity of the name "T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas" 

message: Under "Appearances in other media," it says that Yoshi can be found "speaking perfect English [...] slightly later in the episode "A Little Learning"" in the Super Mario World cartoon. I just watched the show in question, and unless I'm crazy, there wasn't a grammatically-correct phrase spoken by him in the entire episode.--Trent021 (talk) 03:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed to "coherent" Supernerd11  Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 02:22, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speaking perfect English in SMW cartoon 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Seriously why isn't the tax fraud meme on this page at all! That is just strange as it is arguably one of the most noticeable things about this character in recent years. If you don't know about the meme you can click on the link: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yoshi-committed-tax-fraud  — Preceding unsigned comment added by The best editor in the world (talk • contribs) 14:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Memes are usually not notable and Know Your Meme is not a reliable source. TarkusABtalk 14:51, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing came out of the story anyway. He made an out of court settlement with Nintendo and the IRS prior to the release of Yoshi's Crafted World.https://nintendowire.com/news/2019/03/16/has-yoshi-committed-tax-fraud-a-brief-review/ —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 18:39, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the Yoshi committed tax fraud meme? 

message: :Yoshi is a turtle. https://nintendoeverything.com/yoshis-crafted-world-devs-on-the-art-style-kindergarten-inspiration-flip-side-gimmick-more/ Muur (talk) 01:36, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Also why does that tax fraud link appear below my post?Muur (talk) 04:03, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Because another thread on the page has the link formatted as a reference, and Wikipedia's coding has all references appear at the bottom of the page if it isn't controlled with a "" in a different section.--Mr Fink (talk) 05:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

text: This is wrong. Satoru Iwata, a former CEO of Nintendo, said in an interview that Yoshi is a dinosaur. --Veilure (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

text: According to this interview on Nintendo's official website, Takashi Tezuka said, "I kind of forced the design though, saying, 'It's related to turtles.'". And according to Hisashi Nogami, what's on Yoshi's back is "a shell". --AsuTW (talk) 19:00, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Turtle

message: I think it's worth mentioning that "yoshi" is also the name of his species. Booger-mike (talk) 00:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there an official source for that?--Mr Fink (talk) 02:58, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Species 

message: This was already discussed in the past, albeit very shortly, but I feel that the previous consensus has since been forgotten. It seems as tho people assume that Yoshi is a dinosaur becuz he's from Dinosaur Island (which, to be fair, makes perfect sense). However, the coins with Yoshi's face on them are "Dragon Coins", in Super Mario Galaxy 2 he calls himself a "Yoshi the Space Dragon", and in the Smash Bros. series his ultimate move (a "Final Smash") is "Super Dragon". Are there any examples of Nintendo (not of America) calling him a dinosaur, or any examples from NoA in recent times? I know NoA/NoE called him a dinosaur back in the Toadstool days, but I don't think they call him that anymore.Linkdude20002001 (talk) 00:02, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, Yoshi is neither. Yoshi is the species. There are multiple Yoshis. This can be seen in Super Mario World (where you save many Yoshis after beating a boss), Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (the Yoshis work together to protect Baby Mario) and different-coloured Yoshis are alternate costumes in Mario Kart 8. So apparently, Yoshi is a Yoshi. YaRightThereNeymarSunnyInnit (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: However, I would say Yoshi is a dinosaur.  YaRightThereNeymarSunnyInnit (talk) 18:35, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dinosaur or Dragon 2 

message: I am not sure how to fix this, but there is a lot of repetition in the “concept and creation” section. First two paragraphs are essentially repeats of eachother.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1007:B127:80CB:C43:39FE:CDFF:2435 (talk) 21:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Untiled

message: The current one is from Crafted World, a game with a different style from the others. Other recent games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Mario Tennis Aces depict him in a much more typical way; a picture from one of those would be more relevant. DemonDays64 (talk) 19:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: At concept and creation section, remove this sentence as duplicate in first paragraph but don't remove the source at the end: "He again wanted to feature Yoshi in Super Mario Bros. 3, but was still unable to." Also remove the duplicate sentence on second paragraph including the source at the end of paragraph: "In Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, he takes on the role of Baby Mario, which leads him to Bowser's Castle, where he is reunited with Baby Luigi. After defeating a massive Baby Bowser, Yoshi successfully reunites the twins just in time to return home." 210.121.129.159 (talk) 07:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: melecie   t 12:04, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2021 

message: Please consider the change from "Yoshi is a fictional dinosaur" to "Yoshi is a fictional character created in the image of turtles".
I have stated the reason in the talk page Talk:Yoshi#Turtle, but I will also paste it here:
According to this interview on Nintendo's official website, Takashi Tezuka said, "I kind of forced the design though, saying, 'It's related to turtles.'". And according to Hisashi Nogami, what's on Yoshi's back is "a shell". AsuTW (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: For a character as popular as Yoshi there's bound to be the occasional contradictory claim or quote here or there. The current consensus of Yoshi being a dinosaur in the article is well sourced. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 13:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2021 

message: This article should say something about the fact that in Super Mario World, Yoshi can get powers by eating red, yellow, blue, and flashing, Koopa Troopa shells. More about that is detailed here: https://www.mariowiki.com/Yoshi#Super_Mario_World
I can not edit it because the page is protected. 
    104.187.66.104 (talk) 23:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Eating a Koopa Shell Powers

message: The article is entirely missing reference to the 1997 game Yoshi’s Story. Suggest the following paragraph be added in the “Appearances” section, directly following the par that describes Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island:
Baby Mario was entirely absent from follow-up Yoshi’s story, in which Baby Bowser steals a tree that is the source of the Yoshis’ happiness, and turns their world into a picture book. Six eggs survive, and hatch into baby Yoshis who become the protagonists of the game, which is a more puzzle oriented platformer than its predecessor.
Links:
 "Yoshi's Here". IGN. March 10, 1998. https://www.ign.com/articles/1998/03/10/yoshis-here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshi%E2%80%99s_Story Timjbiggs (talk) 11:06, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: with some copyediting Aaron Liu (talk) 15:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2023 

message: I believe there are two different Yoshis who have been mistakenly thought to be the same character.
In Yoshi's Island DS, a green baby Yoshi makes an appearance as the seventh star child. Given his green coloration and star child status, it's clear that this baby Yoshi is the very same Yoshi that the grown-up Mario Bros would later rescue and ally with in Super Mario World and subsequent Super Mario games.
The Yoshi who appears in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, aiding a baby Mario and becoming the protagonist of the Yoshi's Island series, is evidently a separate individual. This Yoshi is a fully grown adult, having been born long ago.
In summary, there are two distinct Yoshis: one baby Yoshi whose birth was shown in the ending of Yoshi's Island DS who grows up to ally with Mario, and the other, a full-grown Yoshi from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island and the subsequent Yoshi's Island series. Therefore I believe some alteration need to be made on this article, to help distinguish the two characters apart. Librarian wolf (talk) 21:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Yoshis 

message: The paragraph about Yoshi's appearance in Super Mario Bros. Wonder is irrelevant as the game has been released three months ago. Change it to something like "Yoshi appears in Super Mario Bros. Wonder as a playable character for the first time since Super Mario 64 DS, along with red, yellow, and blue variants. Unlike the other playable characters, the Yoshis retain their exclusive abilities". Anyway, thanks! 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:5F4D:2540:71A7:3643 (talk) 01:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: with minor rephrasing & additional sourcing. EphemeralPerpetuals (they/them) (talk)  16:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Love the rephrasing, very creative. 😊 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:D5DA:A54B:3BB2:AA7A (talk) 04:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2024 

message: We should add Yoshi's playable role in Super Mario Run in the Super Mario series section. 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:4998:7B49:C219:F316 (talk) 05:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 15:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2024