Talk:Honorific speech in Japanese

message: I removed this part from the Usage: Business section:
:Keigo is used when attendants speak to a customer (even in the supermarket and on trains), in formal business meetings, by women in jidaigeki (in all situations) and by educated people in general.
Ok, point by point:
:-attendants to customers: this part I wouldn't mind seeing re-inserted somewhere. The bracketed explanation is a bit superfluos, though.
:-formal business meetings: this is already covered in the section.
:-women in jidaigeki: huh? I thought the section was on keigo in business enviroments...
:-educated people in general: possibly worth reinclusion, but would have to be thorougly rephrased. I've met educated people that weren't all that hot on keigo. Keigo is not a sign of education, and a lack of keigo doesn't necesarily mean a lack of education. TomorrowTime 13:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  keigo in business 

message: *Support move to Honorific speech in Japanese as it is a more clear title. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Is there a good reason the "teineigo" section of the verb table has everything in plain form?  I don't agree with some of the word choices here, but presumably they were put there by someone who knows what they're doing.  I simply question the "teineigo" verbs not being conjugated in です/ます form.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.243.60.186 (talk) 18:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  teineigo 

message: Could someone add 'to say' to the verb table.Tibetologist (talk) 12:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ? It's already in the table. Oda Mari (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 言うとおっしゃる

message: The article contains little to no references to external sources, and the Japanese examples are rendered sometimes in latin letters only, sometimes in Japanese script only. It really needs a serious cleanup, possibly from someone who is an expert of the Japanese language and linguistics. 80.99.14.241 (talk) 16:15, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs cleanup 

message: I wonder if the o-yu/o-cha example is the best that can be given. Although it is of course true that yu and cha are also used, one could argue that the 御-forms are the default whereas removing the honorific prefix results in a marked expression (cf. the fourth paragraph of the section; お金 is another example; お金 isn't necessarily polite, whereas just using 金 could sound a bit rough). This contrasts with, for example, the default 暇 and the marked お暇, 一緒に and ご一緒に. Which would mean that the current photograph of the tea machine is in fact not an illustration of how words are prefixed to mark for politeness/honorific speech.
What are everybody's opinions on this?
Niels van der Salm (talk) 01:22, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honorific prefixes: oyu/ocha example 

message: I know nothing about Japanese, so these may not be relevant. 1. An example in the article uses "would you like some tea?" as a rough, less polite form; wouldn't "do you want some tea?" serve the purpose better? 2. Regarding the manual keigo not being strictly correct (since nothing is "becoming", in the example given): this seems very like the over-polite and dubious use in English of "yourself" instead of "you", e.g. "what can I do for yourself?" - now often heard from UK salespeople; unsure about North America. Equinox (talk) 04:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of suggestions 

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message: Since it’s called Keigo, shouldn’t the title of the article be Keigo and not Honorific speech in Japanese? GenZenny💖 (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: "Keigo" is the Japanese word.  This is not an English word.  The English Wikipedia has a preference for English-language article titles, where possible.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does Keigo redirect here?