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Wikipedia talk:Repeated AfD nomination limitation (failed proposal)

message: m:instruction creep. 'nuf said. Also note that this policy was suggested at the 6th GNAA nom forest fire, and it was decided that basing policy on a single instance is a patently bad idea. And finally, strict legalistic limits are unwiki, as WP:NOT a bureaucracy. Radiant_>|< 03:28, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please rename this page to something more appropriate. --Gurubrahma 06:14, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Instruction Creep 

message: Seems like consensus here is that this policy is construction creep. Might as well get rid of the proposed tag since it's never going to get anywhere. karmafist 03:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, the point regarding significant article change pretty much swayed my vote. Any instructions that did manage to take into account article change would likely be convoluted and difficult to interpret without the assistance of an attorney. :P —Locke Cole 04:55, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ending the Proposal Stage

message: Jimbo vaguely suggested trying to delete GNAA exactly once per year.  Why not just follow this suggestion without creep.  Just add a banner to the top of Talk:GNAA saying:
:December 15th is GNAA AfD day.  GNAA is up for deletion on December 15th, but please don't list it on any other day.  The poor admins who must manage GNAA's potentially numerous AfDs intend to speedy keep GNAA AfDs on any other day.  A user may challenge such speedy keeps, but most people are quite happy to see GNAA on AfD only once per year, so such challenges are likely to fail.
Thoughts?  Its not a rule, its just a statment of probable behavior, all within existing rules.  JeffBurdges 23:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-creep alternative
Talk:Semir Zeki

message: is this an article or a resume' ?
I share your sentiments. The scientific achievements really should be condensed. Besides, sentences like "Showing that processing sites in the visual brain are also perceptual sites" are vague (and inaccurate). Also, shouldn't there be references for all these claims? - Vpdath (talk) 20:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "...is a British and French neurobiologist..."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentileschi1 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semir Zeki
Talk:Kingston–Rhinecliff Bridge

message: This article did not seem to exist yet near as I could tell although it had multiple red links. It was the only one of the 5 New York State Bridge Authority bridges that did not have one. Since the designer David B. Steinman was a childhood hero of mine, and since I lived in the area for 10 years, it seemed fitting. Comments are very welcome, I am only an egg at article creation. ++Lar 03:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: We need a picture of this. Best place to do so: Kingston Point Park in Kingston. Nice, publicly accessible (and free) beach with view of the whole span. Daniel Case 21:58, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it! Although the one I ultimately used doesn't show the whole span, it gets the idea across. Daniel Case 15:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture
Talk:Governess

message: Potential copyright violation? The text in this article from after the mention of Turn of the Screw to the end also appears here: http://www.english.uwosh.edu/roth/governess.htm - a page on the website (http://www.english.uwosh.edu/roth/) of an English professor at the University of Wisconsin. 64.231.202.85 03:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Text

message: I'm told it's called a tutor, but I thought a tutor just helps with work/clarifies it, rather than teaches, and the term can be used for both genders. The snare (talk) 11:15, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are looking for a modern definition, then consult a dictionary from the country of your choice - I suspect American English and British English may not be in complete agreement. If you are referring to historical usages, little boys of the class that hired governesses were sent off to "public school" (private, fee-paying boarding schools) as young as possible. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 18:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: What is the male equivalent?
Talk:University of Nottingham Students' Union

message: The UoNSU logo on the right hand info bar is a transparent image that is hard to read. I suggest an edit to fill in the transparency with the dark blue (RGB:33,22,70),https://www.su.nottingham.ac.uk/ seen on the SU website. I am unable to edit this as I do not own the rights to the image, nor have the ability to change the file location on Commons. -- DaKing97 (talk) 22:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  UoNSU Logo 

message: *A discussion had been started at Talk:Students Union on whether individual union's page should carry names of current and or former exec. Please go there to provide your opinion if you're interested. -- KTC 03:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Students' Union / Association sabbs list deletion 

message: per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karnival, please merge this into the article. The Placebo Effect (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge per AFD
Talk:Voiced retroflex fricative

message: While I'm not a linguist myself... I don't think many swedes pronounce Rida with a retroflex fricative. Maybe it's used by some dialects, but I would say Alveolar flap is much more common.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.136.245 (talk) 17:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You say "maybe."  If you don't even know, then we can take it out and someone willing to include it again can source it.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 20:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rida" in Swedish 

message: Is it possible to view this sound as a velarized [ʒ], i.e. [ʒˠ] or [ʒ̴], just like the way [ʑ] is equal to [ʒʲ]?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.56.129 (talk) 13:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's quite distinct from that. [ʒˠ] would have a secondary narrowing (articulation) in the velar area, while [ʐ] is made using the tip of the tongue curled up and without any secondary articulations (and it could, technically, be velarized: [ʐˠ]). --JorisvS (talk) 14:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [ʐ] = [ʒˠ]? 

message: Is this the same sound as French "j" (as in French "je")? 173.89.236.187 (talk) 21:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that's a different sound, a voiced palato-alveolar sibilant, though they are similar. --JorisvS (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same as French "j" (as in "[[je]]")? 

message: In Chinese dialects, r is considered to be somewhat in between retroflex approximant and a retroflex fricative. Approximants aren’t pronounced with the mouth closed like sibilants are. Could it be said then that that the Chinese r is actually a retroflex non-sibilant fricative? TheNewLetters (talk) 14:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese - Non-sibilant fricative? 

message: How about Standard Chinese/Mandarin?
in Topique “[ɻ˔]”. Some linguists say "Pinyin R is [ʐ ~ ɻ]". Do you want to skip this? Juidzi (talk) 11:41, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add note
Talk:Uvular nasal

message: if you're looking for fun, here are some thoughts about N for /l/ in east coast English (Stephen King): linguistlist.org/issues/18/18-2240.html peace – ishwar  (speak) 04:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: fun

message: Doesn't French also have nasal Ns?  enfant (child) is pronounced oNfawN (my own madeup phonetics based on US english) where N is nasal not aveolar.
OsamaBinLogin (talk) 23:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: AFAIK, those words feature a nasalized vowel, not a vowel followed by a uvular nasal.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 00:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: French

message: Japanese does not have uvular ɴ. The "ɴ" in the IPA Handbook is a substitution for the archiphoneme N, as is clear from a review of the lit. — kwami (talk) 22:35, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Okada does state "Word-finally before a pause, it is typically a uvular nasal", as seen in his example of /zeɴhaɴ/ [ᵈzeɣ̝̈̃haɴ]. Nardog (talk) 13:12, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not exactly. He says, "Word-finally before a pause, it is typically a uvular nasal with a loose tongue contact or a close to close-mid nasalized vowel". So [ɴ̞ ~ ɨ̃]: not a good example of [ɴ]. — kwami (talk) 18:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't understand. Not every example on the Occurrence list needs to be the most quintessential realization of the present sound, or a majority of examples need to be removed from most articles on sounds. I mean, isn't that one of the reasons the Notes column exists? So why should we remove it altogether instead of listing it with a note like "Lowered. Free variation between [ɴ̞] and [ɨ̃]"? And even if it didn't belong in the list, it is still the case that the Japanese /N/ is often transcribed with ⟨ɴ⟩ and described as a uvular nasal, so not to mention Japanese on this article at all would simply be reader-unfriendly. Nardog (talk) 04:59, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese
Talk:Voiceless pharyngeal fricative

message: Is a pharyngeal fricative really used in Galician?? JdeJ 11:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it. I've removed it pending verification, and added a sourced example. —Angr 18:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Galician

message: The sound sample is different from the sound in Arabic.
: The sound sample would definitely pass for the Arabic sound, and it's probably used exactly this way by some speakers. Nevertheless I do agree that the commonest realisation is somewhat different. I can't really put my finger on the difference, but it might be a stronger contraction of the larynx. The sample sounds laxer.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.188.177.183 (talk) 16:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Arabic

message: I've decided to add the Hebrew example back in, since according to Hebrew phonology it does occur for some speakers. I think adding a note that it occurs only in Oriental dialects is sufficient. AlexanderKaras (talk) 14:28, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occurence in Hebrew 

message: I believe the sound in the sample is epiglottal, not pharyngeal. Can anyone confirm this?--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 00:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you basing this on? — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 02:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The sound in the sample is fine and very good, although i think it is velarized (ħˠ). --Adamsa123 (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong sound? 

message: Where's the source for the use of pharyngeals in Fluminense Portuguese? As a native Brazilian Portuguese speaker and professional linguist, I've never met anyone from Rio would would do such a thing, let alone read a description that acknowledges this possibility... claiming that's somehow standard or even possible sounds just preposterous without the proper source.
I'm not going to remove it or anything, but I'm definitely sticking a "citation needed" there until someone comes up with a reliable study that proves this is actually common enough to grant the presence of Brazilian Portuguese here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.67.7.79 (talk) 03:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazilian/Fluminense Portuguese 

message: Article reads:
:This sound is the most commonly cited realization of the Semitic letter hēth,
I have no idea what this means. Who is citing what? What is meant by a "realization"? Is this a statement about scholars? Is it a statement about the history of Semitic phonology? Is it a statement about the pronunciation of hēth in the modern Semitic languages?
My guess is that it is intended to mean "In most modern Semitic languages, the letter  is pronounced as a voiceless pharyngeal fricative." (I realize that not all modern Semitic languages call the letter hēth...) --Macrakis (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Realization
Talk:Voiceless epiglottal trill

message: I removed the aspiration from the Haida word because I can't hear it and added a link to a page full of soundfiles. I also replaced the underscore diacritic with normal, though misplaced, underlining because otherwise I can't get it to display in IE7 with Arial Unicode MS, neither with the IPA template nor with the Unicode template. David Marjanović 10:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Voiced retroflex flap

message: Altering the translation of Norwegian "blad", because, while "blade" is technically correct, it is not the definition most Norwegians will think of when they hear the word out of context, that being rather "leaf" or "magazine". It is rather like how most English speaker, upon hearing the word "magazine", will think of a printed publication, a reservoir or a device for loading ammunition into weapons, rather than a general store.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.177.138.109 (talk) 18:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:
Talk:Retroflex lateral approximant

message: I believe that the letter often transcribed as zh, and that occurrs as the 'l' in Tamil is actually a retroflex approximant, not a retroflex lateral approximant. Can someone provide a non-wikipedia source for the use of the retroflex lateral approximant in Tamil or Malayalam.
Arun 18:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the closest Malayalam comes to the English sounds, but they're not the same. kwami 09:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use in Tamil and Malayalam 

message: The information on this page is wrong. The sounds mentioned in Marathi and Kannada are not the same, so it cant be the same consonant. The Kannada one is a purer lateral, while the Marathi one has a palatal element.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chengiz (talk • contribs) 16:21, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marathi and Kannada 

message: I would like to ask whether is sound is present in modern Czech language. The Czech 'l' is different from Polish 'l'. This difference is significantly audible when Czechs and Poles pronounce common words (as `ale'). Xpicto (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're looking for the velarized alveolar lateral approximant. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 12:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use in Czech
Talk:Velar lateral approximant

message: Some of the transcriptions listed here imply that this phone occurs in Sardinian dialects, too. Whether it can be analysed as phonemic I have no idea, though. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 16:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I only saw one example with a capital L in IPA brackets.  It may have been a typo.  Does the article talk about lateral allophones in Sardinian? — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 16:29, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occurrence
Talk:MHRA

message: ----
I came to this page from the Neglected articles page, but I'm not sure what to do with it.  It's awfully short -- do two alternate possibilities warrant a disambiguation page, or should a link just be added to one of the pages?  I can't decide, because there's no clear winner here, as far as which topic is more popular / likely to be referenced.  Can anyone give me some guidance here? Bushing 04:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got to say, I can't decide a winner either, and that it is probably fine as it is.  There is nothing wrong with a disambig page which only has two possibilities.  I can't see the point of the cleanup tag either. Hiding  talk 16:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Intaglio (disambiguation)

message: When I created the disambiguation page, I clicked "what links here" and disambiguated what links I could.  But as User:Nbarth points out, this jewelry sense is also pretty major.  And I think around half of the incoming links are from such a use of the term, but I don't know a thing about the subject.  I think it might be possible to move Intaglio (printmaking) to Intaglio (art) and also cover the jewelry sense in that article, but I'm not entirely sure what the jewelry actually is.  NickelShoe 04:03, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewelry
Talk:Voiced epiglottal trill

message: I've changed the audio link from a .wav file to an .ogg version of the same recording.  I messed up the edit summary for that change. Lfh (talk) 12:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The sound file does not work well, it was too short and the sound got all mixed up. do you think you can redo the file? --Mahaodeh (talk) 13:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fine for me. I do have that when I play it for the second (or etc.) time, the first bit (second or so) of the file is skipped; this, however, is a browser issue, not a problem with the file. --JorisvS (talk) 15:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  sound file 

message: This sound is pronounced regularly in most dialects of Arabic and I am at loss at what it is exactly (approximant? epiglottal? etc.) Will someone please link to this file in the right article or point to a similar file already linked to in the right article?--What's_the_big_deal?! 00:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about this??  

message: How can someone possibly add a Literary Arabic example, tagged as "some dialects"? Clearly anyone who does so, has limited or no knowledge about Literary Arabic or Arabic dialects and how they are pronounced. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 12:52, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fake examples 

message: Apparently it's not only in German; I'm French and I (personaly) use this phoneme when there are two following /a/ and a /R/ between. I think it's common rather to all languages using the Guttural R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.28.241.116 (talk) 23:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  In French 

message: There is a symbol used just for the trill its [я]  basically the cyrillic ja, should mention that  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AleksiB 1945 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It says "no published reports of their use in clinical populations have been found, thus there is no need for their inclusion at the moment". Sounds like there is no need for its inclusion in our article either. Nardog (talk) 17:53, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: A separate symbol of the trill

message: Is this a Trill or a Fricative???
Please tell me --83.142.57.33 (talk) 14:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Trill... (fricative?)
Talk:Akemi Takada

message: I'll be working on this over the next few weeks as I get to it. Takada has a lot of work she's done, so it may take a while. Thanks for your patience. :-) --nihon 04:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I think it's pretty much done other than really recent works. Takada's official site only goes through 2001, and the Japanese page is a lot smaller than this one. --nihon 22:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Filling out the page
Talk:Adventures from the Book of Virtues

message: That first sentence is really crappy. I'd re-write it if I knew what the heck he was talking about.
:I would agree.  Is the new one any better? I don't know anything about the show, either, but I can use Google. Coleca 01:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, the show was VERY poorly received by critics. Why the hell isn't this mentioned in the article? --208.65.188.31 (talk) 23:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

text: And the episode dates must be totally wrong for a few episodes. According to those dates, most of first season was aired 1996, but 2nd episode was aired one day short of two years later... Or that could though be a typo, if so, there are quite many of those. And again, according to those dates, there was 2 year gap, but it was in the middle of 4th season, which is unmentioned in the intro. Rather messy stuff here. 85.217.47.216 (talk) 05:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Why isn’t this show in the Christian animation category? UpnCbs06 (talk) 04:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I kind of was rather confused too, but I think the answer is that while I think much of the show was intended for Christian viewership, since it was on PBS, they didn't want to discriminate against non-Christians. After all, only a few episodes had explicitly Christian lessons. Faith (obviously), and another that I can't remember the name of, but I know I watched. Besides, they're lessons anyone can use in life. Triviatronic9000 (talk) 03:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question
Talk:List of best-selling albums

message: UK... music sales certifications were established in 1959. As an example, Elvis Presley was awarded a Silver Record for 250 000 UK sales of his 1960 LP G.I. Blues in 1962. [ https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Disc/1962/DISC-1962-02-17.pdf](spread across pages 8-9).The BPI certification began in 1973. But to pretend that 14 years' worth of Silver(and Gold) Records simply never existed is farcical.
Canada... 1970. Note too that if one searches for Led Zeppelin II on the Music Canada website, you are informed when the album went Platinum etc. But not when it was certified Gold in Canada. Because that happened in 1970. So, there are at least 5 years' worth of Canadian Certifications...ignored. It appears that the "Platinum" Certification goes back to 1975 in Canada, but Gold was around long before that.
In the British case, much of the information is available in book form, and should be utilised. Canadian Certifications appear much trickier to track down, but hopefully I am mistaken about that. But, to claim that "UK Certification began in 1973, and Canadian Certification began in 1975" is wrong on multiple levels. 197.83.246.171 (talk) 09:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Establishment Dates  

message: I just want to know who hates Led Zeppelin so much. They sold the same number as Shania Twain, yet you dump them in the 20-29m units moved instead of the top bracket. Any explanation would be greatly appreciated. 137.103.48.4 (talk) 18:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The order and groupings are based on reported/claimed sales, not certified copies. The current source clearly states that Led Zeppelin IV was reported to have sold 37 million copies. Liu1126 (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2024 

message: (Page 16) 197.87.135.139 (talk) 16:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Fair Lady...THREE million by 1960
Talk:Bailey v. Alabama

message: There have been numerous edits changing this case's dates in the text and infobox. I'm not sure why the vast interest in going back and forth between 1908 and 1911 -- it's one or the other, and it's a verifiable fact. Were there two cases causing the confusion? --lquilter 13:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit-skirmishing over case dates?