Talk:The Peninsula Hotels

message: Does anyone have a reference with regard to the Boston location? There is no information about it on the Peninsula web site. -68.230.150.72 23:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: Hi! I'm an employee at The Peninsula Hotels, and I have been tasked to kindly request the following edits. These edits are based on the feedback given in my previous request that was declined. 
All feedback is much appreciated. Thank you!
1. History section
It's missing some locations and I believe could be worded better. I suggest replacing the existing text with the below.
Proposed text to be deleted:
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"Hong Kong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited was incorporated in 1866. The company became engaged in real estate, acquiring land properties, and opened The Peninsula Hong Kong in Tsim Sha Tsui in 1928. The Peninsula Hong Kong holds several world records for placing the largest single orders for fleets of Rolls-Royce cars in the world.
The Peninsula Manila in Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines, opened in 1976. After a decade, the opening was followed by The Peninsula New York in 1988, as the company ventured into the US market. This was followed by a 1989 opening in Beijing and a 1991 opening in Beverly Hills."
Proposed text to replace deleted text:
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"The Peninsula Hotels is one of Asia’s oldest hospitality companies. The origins of its corporate parent, The Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited, was incorporated in 1866. The first Peninsula hotel opened in Hong Kong in 1928 overlooking Victoria Harbour, where it became known as “The Grande Dame of the Far East,” and where it still stands as the company’s flagship property. Today, The Peninsula Hotels operates in major cities including Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo, New York, Chicago, Beverly Hills, Paris, Istanbul, Bangkok, and Manila. In September 2023, the company will add London to its portfolio.'
2. Awards and achievements section
I'd like to update our awards, and suggest a list format to be comprehensive and include all locations. I suggest replacing the existing text with the below:
"The Peninsula Hotels has received many awards across its properties. In 2019, it was the first brand to achieve Forbes Travel Guide Five-Star Status across its entire portfolio. In 2022, it was featured in Travel + Leisure's World's Best Awards for "The 25 Best Hotel Brands". 
List of awards and achievements by property:
The Peninsula Hong Kong:
·       Forbes Five-Star Rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The 500 Best Properties in the World 2021 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/tl500-2021
·       Top 5 Hong Kong City Hotels in 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-downtown-hong-kong
·       The Top 15 Asia City Hotels in 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/city-hotels-in-asia-2020
·       Best Luxury Hotel in Asia Award 2019 by TTG Travel Awards https://awards.ttgasia.com/public/attachments/2019.pdf
·       The Top 5 Hong Kong City Hotels in 2019 by Travel + Leisure 
The Peninsula Shanghai:
·       Forbes Five-Star Ratinghttps://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The Top 100 Hotels in the World in 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-top-100-overall-2020
·       No. 1 in The Best Hotels in Shanghai – The World’s Best Awards 2021, 2020 & 2019 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-shanghai
·       The Top 15 Asia City Hotels – The World’s Best Awards 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/city-hotels-in-asia-2020
·      Best Hotels in the World: The Gold List 2019 by Condé Nast Traveler https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-hotels-in-the-world-2019#lBwa3QmgxKE
The Peninsula Beijing:
·       Forbes Five Star rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The Top 5 Hotels in China 2021 
·       The Top Hotels in Beijing - The World’s Best Awards in 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-downtown-beijing
·       Gold List 2020 by Condé Nast Traveler (US) 
·       The World's Best Hotels in Beijing in 2019 by Travel + Leisure 
The Peninsula Tokyo:
·       Forbes Five-Star Ratinghttps://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The 5 Best Hotels in Tokyo 2022 by Travel + Leisure
·       The 10 Best Hotels in Tokyo 2021 by Travel + Leisure
·      The Top 10 Hotels in Tokyo 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-downtown-tokyo-2020
·       The Top 5 Tokyo City Hotels in 2018 
The Peninsula New York:
·       Forbes Five-Star Ratinghttps://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       AAA Five Diamond Hotels 2022 2021-Five-Diamond-Hotels.pdf (aaa.com)
·       Top 15 Hotels in New York by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-new-york
The Peninsula Chicago:
·       Forbes Five-Star Rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       AAA Five Diamond Award 2021-Five-Diamond-Hotels.pdf (aaa.com)
·       The 10 Best Hotels in Chicago 2022 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/best-chicago-hotels-2022
·       No. 1 in The Top 10 City Hotels in Chicago in 2020 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-chicago-2020
·       Best Hotels in the World: The Gold List 2019 by Condé Nast Traveler https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-hotels-in-the-world-2019#lBwa3QmgxKE
·       No. 1 Hotel in the US 2022 by US News and World Report https://www.usnews.com/info/blogs/press-room/articles/2022-02-08/u-s-news-announces-best-hotels-of-2022
·       No. 1 Top Luxury Hotel in the US by TripAdvisor Traveler’s Choice Awards 2019 https://tripadvisor.mediaroom.com/2019-01-23-TripAdvisor-Reveals-Americas-Best-Hotels-With-2019-Travelers-Choice-Awards
The Peninsula Beverly Hills:
·       Forbes Five Star Hotel for 25 Consecutive Years 2023 Forbes Travel Guide Star Awards (lovebeverlyhills.com)
·       AAA Five Diamond Hotel for 25 Consecutive Years 2023 Forbes Travel Guide Star Awards (lovebeverlyhills.com)
·       The 15 Best Hotels in Greater Los Angeles 2022 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/the-best-hotels-in-los-angeles-2022
·       No. 1 Hotel in Los Angeles in World’s Best Awards 2019 & 2021 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-los-angeles
The Peninsula Paris:
·     Forbes Five-Star Rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·     The 45 Best Hotels in Paris by Condé Nast Traveler 2023
·     Two MICHELIN Stars awarded to L'Oiseau Blanc Restaurant in The Peninsula Paris
·     No. 1 Hotel in Paris by Condé Nast Traveler’s 2021 Reader's Choice Awards https://www.luxurytravelmagazine.com/news-articles/the-peninsula-paris-named-1-hotel-in-paris-by-conde-nast-traveler-readers
·     The Top 10 Hotels in Paris 2021 by Travel + Leisure 
The Peninsula Istanbul:
·     The 100 Best New Hotels in the World by Travel + Leisure
The Peninsula Bangkok:
·       Forbes Five-Star Hotel rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The Best Hotels in Bangkok 2023 by Condé Nast Traveler
·       Top 10 Hotels in Bangkok: Readers’ Choice Awards 2021 by Condé Nast Traveler https://www.cntraveler.com/gallery/top-hotels-in-bangkok
·       Top 5 Bangkok Hotels 2021 by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-bangkok
·       The Top 5 Hotels in Bangkok in 2020 - The World's Best Awards by Travel + Leisure https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-in-bangkok-2020
The Peninsula Manila:
·       Forbes Five-Star Rating https://www.forbestravelguide.com/collections/the-peninsula-hotels
·       The Top 100 Hotels in the World in 2021 https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-top-100-overall
·       Readers’ Choice Awards Top Hotels in Asia 2017 by Condé Nast Traveler
3. Gallery section & Profile logo
The logo needs to be updated and there are two additional property photos that need to be added, which opened/will open in 2023.
The Peninsula Istanbul: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_Istanbul.png
(Opening in September 2023) The Peninsula London: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_London.jpg
Logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_Logo.png
JTThornBridge (talk) 02:57, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request - July 2023 

message: # The text from the History section was not updated because items such as Hong Kong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited, as well as the individual hotels mentioned, were not Wikilinked. Please note that if WikiLinks exist, those Wikilinks must accompany the text in the edit request proposal.
# The awards section was not added because the awards listed are not independenly notable in Wikipedia.
# Certain images were added, while others were not:
## The image for the Peninsula Istanbul was added to the article.
## The image for the Peninsula London was not added, because the hotel is not yet open.
## The logo was not added, because the Wikimedia data entered by the uploading editor indicated that the logo's trademark belongs to the uploading editor. The trademark can only belong to the company whose logo it represents.
Regards,  Spintendo  03:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply -JUL-2023

message: Hi! I'm an employee at The Peninsula Hotels, and I have been tasked to kindly request the following edits. These edits are based on the feedback given in my previous request that was declined.
All feedback is much appreciated. Thank you!
1. History section
It's missing some locations and I believe could be worded better. I suggest replacing the existing text with the below.
Proposed text to be deleted: "Hong Kong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited was incorporated in 1866. The company became engaged in real estate, acquiring land properties, and opened The Peninsula Hong Kong in Tsim Sha Tsui in 1928. The Peninsula Hong Kong holds several world records for placing the largest single orders for fleets of Rolls-Royce cars in the world.
The Peninsula Manila in Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines, opened in 1976. After a decade, the opening was followed by The Peninsula New York in 1988, as the company ventured into the US market. This was followed by a 1989 opening in Beijing and a 1991 opening in Beverly Hills."
Proposed text to replace deleted text: "The Peninsula Hotels is one of Asia’s oldest hospitality companies. The origins of its corporate parent, The Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited, was incorporated in 1866. The first Peninsula hotel opened in Hong Kong in 1928 overlooking Victoria Harbour, where it became known as “The Grande Dame of the Far East,” and where it still stands as the company’s flagship property. Today, The Peninsula Hotels operates across 11 major cities with The Peninsula Hong Kong, The Peninsula Shanghai, The Peninsula Beijing, The Peninsula Tokyo, The Peninsula New York, The Peninsula Chicago, The Peninsula Beverly Hills, The Peninsula Paris, The Peninsula Istanbul, The Peninsula Bangkok, and The Peninsula Manila. In September 2023, the company will add The Peninsula London to its portfolio.'
2. Recognition
I'd like to include a new section called "Recognition", which follows a similar format to the Four Seasons' "Critical reception" section.
Proposed body text:
"In 2019, The Peninsula Hotels was the first brand to achieve Forbes Five-Star status across its entire portfolio. The Peninsula Beverly Hills has held both the Forbes Five Star Hotel rating and the AAA Five Diamond Hotel rating for over 25 Consecutive Years.2023 Forbes Travel Guide Star Awards (lovebeverlyhills.com) The Peninsula New York and The Peninsula Chicago have also achieved the AAA Five Diamond Award.2021-Five-Diamond-Hotels.pdf (aaa.com) 2021-Five-Diamond-Hotels.pdf (aaa.com) 
In 2022, Travel + Leisure magazine readers voted The Peninsula Hotels as one of the "Best Hotel Brands in the World". Travel + Leisure magazine named The Peninsula Hong Kong, The Peninsula Shanghai, The Peninsula Istanbul and The Peninsula Manila among "The Top 100 Best Hotels in the World". https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-top-100-overall-2020  https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/hotels-top-100-overall  In recent years, The Peninsula Shanghai, The Peninsula Beijing and The Peninsula Chicago were recognized on the "Best Hotels in the World Gold List" by Condé Nast Traveller magazine.https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-hotels-in-the-world-2019#lBwa3QmgxKE  https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-hotels-in-the-world-2019#lBwa3QmgxKE
Restaurants at The Peninsula Hotels have been recognized by the Michelin Guide. Two Michelin Stars were awarded to L'Oiseau Blanc Restaurant in The Peninsula Paris, One Michelin Star to Spring Moon and Gaddi's in The Peninsula Hong Kong, One Michelin Star to Sir Elly's and Yi Long Court in The Peninsula Shanghai and One Michelin Star to Jing at The Peninsula Beijing."
3. Gallery section & Profile logo
The logo needs to be updated and "Source" has been updated to indicate trademark belongs to the company.
Logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_Logo.png
JTThornBridge (talk) 07:17, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request - July 2023 2.0 

message: # Thank you for adding the WikiLinks to the hotels. As there is already a section of the article which contains a listing of the hotels, we can either have the listing be in the text of the article (as prose) similar to what you've proposed—in which case the existing list would be deleted—or keep the list as it exists now. Per MOS:EMBED, the short length of the article argues against having both at the same time. Please advise on which you would prefer.
#The logo needs to be re-uploaded under a new license. I would suggest using this license. When beginning the uploading process, be sure to click on "non-free file" rather than "upload your own file for free use".
#As the awards are not notable in Wikipedia, they cannot be added to the article. The best location for the business to publicise the awards and merits it has garnered is on its own website, not on Wikipedia.
#When the new logo has been uploaded under the correct license (and when you've decided which description of the hotels you would prefer) please return to this page and reactivate a new edit request below this post.
Regards,  Spintendo  10:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 18-July-2018

message: Hi! I'm an employee at The Peninsula Hotels, and I have been tasked to kindly request the following edits. These edits are based on the feedback given in my previous request that was declined. Thank you!
1. History section
It's missing some locations and I believe could be worded better. I suggest replacing the existing text with the below.
Proposed text to be deleted: "Hong Kong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited was incorporated in 1866. The company became engaged in real estate, acquiring land properties, and opened The Peninsula Hong Kong in Tsim Sha Tsui in 1928. The Peninsula Hong Kong holds several world records for placing the largest single orders for fleets of Rolls-Royce cars in the world.
The Peninsula Manila in Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines, opened in 1976. After a decade, the opening was followed by The Peninsula New York in 1988, as the company ventured into the US market. This was followed by a 1989 opening in Beijing and a 1991 opening in Beverly Hills."
Proposed text to replace deleted text: "The Peninsula Hotels is one of Asia’s oldest hospitality companies. The origins of its corporate parent, The Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited, was incorporated in 1866. The first Peninsula hotel opened in Hong Kong in 1928 overlooking Victoria Harbour, where it became known as “The Grande Dame of the Far East,” and where it still stands as the company’s flagship property. Today, The Peninsula Hotels operates across 11 major cities with The Peninsula Hong Kong, The Peninsula Shanghai, The Peninsula Beijing, The Peninsula Tokyo, The Peninsula New York, The Peninsula Chicago, The Peninsula Beverly Hills, The Peninsula Paris, The Peninsula Istanbul, The Peninsula Bangkok, and The Peninsula Manila. In September 2023, the company will add The Peninsula London to its portfolio.
2. The Peninsula Signature Events --- PROPOSED NEW SECTION 
Proposed text to be added:
Each year during Monterey Car Week, The Peninsula Hotels hosts three events at The Quail Lodge and Golf Club in Carmel California: The Best of the Best Awards, The Quail Rally, and The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering.The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering Returns Celebrating Three Brand-New Classes and Vehicles from the World’s Leading Marques and Collectors (kahnmedia.com)
Created in 2015 by The Hon. Sir Michael Kadoorie, William E. Connor, Bruce Meyer and Christian Philippsenhttps://www.conceptcarz.com/a28606/salon-prive-peninsula-classics.aspx, the Best of the Best Award is given to a winner from the previous season’s concours d’elegance competitors after a rigorous appraisal by a panel of judges, which include Jay Leno and Ralph Lauren.https://www.magnetomagazine.com/peninsula-classics-best-of-the-best-finalists-named/
The Quail Rally is a three-day driving journey that begins in Carmel, California through Sonoma and Napa Valley’s wine country.https://www.forbes.com/sites/shelbyknick/2022/08/26/an-adventurous-start-to-this-years-monterey-car-week-with-the-quail-rally-and-gathering/ Launched in 1997, The Quail Rally is an invitation only three‐day, vintage-car drive preceding The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering. The drive raises money for local and national charitable organisations.https://www.supercars.net/blog/quail-motorsports-gathering/ 
Following The Quail Rally, The Quail Motorsport Gathering is held on the golf course at the Quail Lodge & Golf Club in Carmel, California. The event is attended by motorsports enthusiasts and collectors from around the world to view rare collections of fine automobiles and motorcycles in a garden-party setting.Monterey Car Week 2023 Events | Car Shows, Races & Auctions (seemonterey.com)
3. Commitments to Sustainability
The Peninsula Hotels has made commitments towards sustainability. In 2012, the company made headlines for issuing a ban on their menus to no longer serve shark fin soup, which is traditionally a popular delicacy in China.WWF welcomes move by Peninsula hotel chain away from shark fin | WWF (panda.org)Shark fin soup - Wikipedia In 2015, The Peninsula Tokyo became EarthCheck certified, first luxury hotel in Japan.Peninsula Tokyo receives EarthCheck Silver Certification | Press Releases | Asia | Sustainable Business (eco-business.com) In 2017, The Peninsula Beijing became BREEAM accredited after meeting the programme’s sustainability assessment.Beijing’s Peninsula hotel refurbishment achieves international BREEAM rating - BRE Group 
4. Addition to the existing table
I see that the number of rooms for The Peninsula Shangai in the table is missing. The number of rooms is 235. source: https://www.fivestaralliance.com/luxury-hotels/shanghai/the-peninsula-shanghai
5. Change of logo
Please replace the existing logo with this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_Logo.png
JTThornBridge (talk) 15:02, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request - Aug 2023 

message: # The proposed changes for the History section were not implemented because:
## The "proposed text to be deleted" was not an accurate description of the text currently in that section.
## The "proposed text to replace deleted text" contained a listing of hotels which already exists in other parts of the article. As stated in an earlier review, The listing of hotels can either stay as a table format or in prose, but the COI editor must choose which can remain, because both cannot.
# The Peninsula signature events were not added per WP:NOTPROMO, and because the events themselves are not independently notable.
# The "commitments to sustainability" section was added to the article because the two certifications were independently notable, and the news regarding shark fin soup was referenced by panda.org.
# The logo was not updated because it does not contain the correct non-free use license. The file must be re-uploaded under non-free use.
Regards,  Spintendo  15:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 5-AUG-2023

message: Hello! Hopefully I uploaded it right this time. Please update the logo to this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Peninsula_Hotels_Logo.jpg
Many thanks!
JTThornBridge (talk) 16:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo edit request 

message: #The media file you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons meets the criteria for speedy deletion. The file is copyrighted and not published under a free license. You asserted that the usage of this file was fair use, but fair use claims are not permitted in Wikimedia Commons. 
#Please use the File Upload Wizard to upload the file locally to Wikipedia. Be sure to choose "Upload a non-free file".
Regards,  Spintendo  17:21, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 5-AUG-2023

message: Hello! My sincerest apologies for not getting this right several times. Please see uploaded: File:The Peninsula Hotels logo.jpg - Wikipedia
Please replace the existing page logo with this one. Thank you very much for your patience. 
I would also like to edit the History section to make it worded better and add more information. 
Text to be deleted: "Hong Kong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited was incorporated in 1866. The company became engaged in real estate, acquiring land properties, and opened The Peninsula Hong Kong in Tsim Sha Tsui in 1928."
Text to replace the deleted text: The Peninsula Hotels is one of Asia’s oldest hospitality companies. The origins of its corporate parent, The Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels, Limited, was incorporated in 1866. The first Peninsula hotel opened in Hong Kong in 1928 overlooking Victoria Harbour, where it became known as “The Grande Dame of the Far East,” and where it still stands as the company’s flagship property."
JTThornBridge (talk) 13:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The logo was updated. Other elements of the request, such as mentioning the main peninsula Hotel and the date of incorporation of the parent company, are already in the article. Claims about being the oldest hospitality company are spurious and cannot be backed by any reliable sources. Those claims are already made on the wiki article for the hotel itself. This is the article on the parent company. Regards,  Spintendo  14:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much!!!! JTThornBridge (talk) 14:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo edit request & History