Talk:Hollywood (graphics chip)

message: I just removed an unsourced paragraph from the article claiming the chip was 20% faster than the Gamecubes. Which I find to be a dubious claim, since it has a clockspeed which is at least 50% faster than the Gamecube's, and it has faster access to more ram as well, which would lead me to expect a larger  boost in power. However, if the claim was misinterpreting a piece of information which claimed 20% more efficient, that is more plausible as a similar reduction in power draw has been reported by IBM from the Broadway. Zeebo-010 22:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If memory serves, there was a statement from someone at Nintendo or one of the technology partners claiming that one of the chips (might've actually been Broadway) consumed 20% less power than its equivalent predcessor in the Game Cube did, so I think that might've been the source of the paragraph. I'd re-add it to the article, but right now it appears the source escapes me. Nottheking (talk) 00:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  20% Faster? Or 20% more efficient? 

message: 1T-SRAM is a brand of 1T-DRAM. This is a blatant advertisement and should be removed.
:It would appear to be policy to use registered trademarks and names when referring to a specific company's product. Because the Wii uses a brand of memory chips made by MoSys that the company names "1T-SRAM," technically that would be the correct name for it, even if it's DRAM, not SRAM. Nottheking (talk) 00:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Such Thing as 1T-SRAM 

message: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/09/24/is-wii-really-gamecube-one-point-five-yes-says-beyond3d.aspx JACOPLANE • 2007-09-26 20:22
:Can't use that, since, frustratingly enough, it goes back to the same IGN article source as everything else. IGN is the entire crutch for their analysis, and that's been repeatedly noted as a highly dubious source, given that absolutely zero has been provided to back it up, such as any comment from any actual developer or someone at one of the hardware companies. Especially since it largely ignores the considerably higher transistor count in Napa compared to Flipper, which is nearly a comparable increase in complexity to the transition between the NV2A in the original Xbox and the R500 Xenos in the Xbox 360. In other words, going on clock rate alone is rather fallacious, and you'd recognize it quite well if someone made the claim, on core clock alone, that the Xbox 360 had the graphics power of 2.14 Xboxes taped together. (since you'd just be comparing 500 MHz to 233 MHz) 
:Likewise, they make a mistake when comparing chip sizes... Apparently, they judge that the sizes are too similar, making the mistake of believing that in switching from the 180nm node used for the Game Cube's hardware (as well as that of other sixth-generation consoles) to the 90nm of the current seventh-generation consoles, that you'd have transistors taking up half as much space, which is an error when you remember that chips are two-dimensonal, not one; the suface becomes twice as dense with EACH shift of a full node, and going from 180nm to 90nm is two node jumps, skipping the 130nm node. Hence, the density would be quadrupled, meaning that if Flipper had a die area of 110 mm², then compared to the 72 mm area of Napa, that would imply a transistor count increase of 161.8%, rather significant. Nottheking (talk) 00:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source for the article 

message: Should that really say AMD? This chip was developed before AMD bought ATI, so AMD had absolutely nothing to do with the development of this chip. 66.183.175.7 (talk) 07:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "AMD's ATi Technologies division" 

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message: While the Hollywood was marketed as a graphics chip, it contains other hardware such as OTP memory and the Starlet. Generally, Hollywood refers to the entire board responsible for both these security functions and graphics, while GX refers solely to the portion responsible for graphics. Hallowizer (talk) 01:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Just started a draft for GX, in the process I copied some page contents to Draft:GX (graphics chip). Hallowizer (talk) 03:18, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split to “Hollywood (chip)” and “GX (graphics chip)”