Talk:Semi-trailer truck

message: :On some interstate highways in the US, long-haul semi-trailer trucks can tow another full trailer at the end, which makes the vehicle look like a two-car small train. Some of the second cars are full trailers with wheels on both ends, while others are just regular semi-trailer cars hooked to the standard coupling device on another set of wheels in tow (sometimes referred to as a "dolly"). There are proposals to allow a third car to be added to the vehicle, but they face strong objections from some car drivers who share the highway with these longer trucks.
The above paragraph makes it sound like triple-trailers aren't actually in use. They are, and at one time were pretty common on I-84 in northern Oregon. This has decreased over time — and additional permits are required for it — due to safety concerns (I've also heard it suggested that trucking companies may have found it to not be as economical as they'd hoped, but I can't speak to the veracity of those claims; insurance costs, perhaps?). Anyone traveling through the Columbia River Gorge still stands a decent chance of seeing one, though. -- nknight 10:17, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've certainly seen them on the Ohio Turnpike. I half-jokingly refer to them as "death trains". I've edited the paragraph to clarify that these are in use on some highways. --Arteitle 07:18, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
I think triple trailers are common in Austrailia (I understand that these "road trains" have the right of way over smaller vehicles). Also, the picture seems not as clear as would be that of a typical 18 wheeler, especially with a full on side profile. Leonard G. 00:03, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Triple-trailers

message: :I am always curious what each kind of trailer is designed for.  The cargo container trailer is obvious.  But there are some trailers that shaped like a funnel with a nossle near the bottom.  Some look like liquid containers and some look like for gravels or something solid.  It would be nice to have pictures of each type of trailers here in the article.
:: Or perhaps in trailer. Nikola 11:20, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Type of trailers

message: This article didnt have a proper definition of a semi-trailer (apart from a vague etymology near the end) so I've replaced the etymology with a precise definition right at the begining where it aught to be so that anyone reading this article knows exactly what a semi-trailer is. It's worded as follows;-
"A semi-trailer is a trailer without a front axle. A large proportion of its weight is supported either by a tractor or by a detachable front axle assembly known as a dolly. A semi-trailer is equipped with legs to support it when it is uncoupled." Apgeraint 19:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the title should be "Semi-trailer truck" instead of "Semi-trailer" because the latter refers only to the cargo segment while the former refers to the whole thing.  If you want abbrev. probably "semi" suffices, but the article should have a more complete title. I actually am interested in an article that describes all the different kinds of semi-trailers found on the road.  Some examples include the gasoline tanker, gravel loader, flat-bed for heavy equipment, cargo container, milk transporter, liquidifed gas tanker, timber hauler etc.  Some photos to show how these trailers are used would be great.  Kowloonese 01:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: May I suggest a gallery in the bottom? I'd like some different pics too, with "professional terms" describing the semitrailers G®iffen 12:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Please see Talk:Semi-trailer#Definition of Semi-trailer - comments please and provide feedback comments.  H Padleckas 03:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of semi-trailer

message: Some ananymous user removed all about local differences. Is it vandalism, or did s/he put it somewhere else? I didn't like to rebuild it if there's a good explanation. G®iffen 14:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the user's contributions, it doesn't look like the deleted information was put somwhere else. Seeing as the user is also Anon., I think that info should be put back.  Toiyabe 15:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Authorized or vandalism?

message: Hi! I came here looking for statistics on vehicle weight, cargo weight, and fuel efficiency. I was trying to calculate the cost and fuel efficiency of shipping goods via truck versus people in passenger vehicles driving to pick things up. Rummaging on Google I couldn't find anything with enough authority for me to add the numbers here, but if somebody finds those stats, they'd make a great addition to the article. Thanks, William Pietri 03:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Would love stats!

message: Is this article about semi-trailer trucks (as titled)?   Maybe I am reading this wrong, because I don't know this US English term first hand, but the title suggests that the article is about trucks insofar as they relate to semi-trailers. OK - I'm labouring this a little, but the article is (to my mind) titled about the truck itself (i.e. the prime mover or whatever else you want to call it).  So what's all the stuff about trailers doing this article ?  Trailer info is related useful info, but needs moving to somewhere else, no?  Unless the article is retitled, that is.  My preference is 'articulated lorry', but then, no doubt, others would say 'huh?' to that, just as I'm scratching my head about the current title.  --!!!!
:See section 4 on this page. (This is section 9) G®iffen 10:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Australia, the subject of this article is usually known just as a "semi trailer", and formally (in road laws etc) as an "articulated vehicle". The topic of semi-trailer would actually be called either just "trailer", or "semi-trailer trailer" if it needed the context. The thing at the front is called a prime mover when it is not towing a trailer. --Scott Davis Talk 09:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename the article?

message: I was wondering if this link is OK or too commercial. Personally I would prefer to see it replaced by a video clip or photostring showing how a sideloader works? Besides it's uploaded by a user of the same name as the company... G®iffen 15:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just removed all the external links as they appeared to be commercial. If there's something useful in one of them, it should be added to the text and use the website as the footnote reference. My quick scan suggested they all failed the External links guideline. --Scott Davis Talk 09:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About the Container King Sidepicker System In Canada-link

message: there are 3 different trials in Germany, one with only 40 metric tons, an other with 44tons and one with 60 tons maximum weight [Ecocombi#Deutschland] german wiki—The preceding []unsigned comment was added by 82.82.134.218 (talk) 21:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trial in Germany

message: I used to drive a truck in Alaska, and in the winter it could get extremly dangerous. I would like to know if anyone else ever had the promblem of the suspension freezing completely while parked overnight. This made my truck incredibly unsafe. Please let me know if you has this problem. =]
 Thankyou, kind regards,Zesty Prospect 17:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trucking in Alaska

message: Why are they called "semi" trailers? Are they not full-sized trailers? —Ben FrantzDale (talk) 12:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For some reason it's not explained before section 2.2 Construction. Somebody should put it up top somehow, but I'm not onto that at the moment... G®iffen (talk) 21:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, they are full-sized but do not "fully" trail. The designation "semi" refers to function rather than size. They are correctly called semi-trailers because they do not trail fully behind the prime mover, as a trailer does. This distinction leads to major design differences between trailers and semi-trailers. I'll try writing it in, near the top as suggested. Aboctok (talk) 19:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Semi"?

message: In the United States: how come back in the 1970s and 1980s nearly all tractor-trailer trucks were built with the cab over the engine and steer wheels... yet during the 1990s and 2000s those disappeared, replaced by the engine and steer wheels being placed ahead of the cab?  This seems to be a rather major change and I'm surprised it's not mentioned in the article. -Rolypolyman (talk) 12:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cab over trucks disappeared after the US length laws were relaxed. Originally the length law dictated a "bumper to bumper" length limit of 65 feet. It was later relaxed and allowed for the tractor to be of unlimited length as long as the over all length does not exceed the state laws (usually 75 feet). I don't exactly know when the law was relaxed but it was during the late 70's and drivers could not wait to get out of cab overs. They were largely perceived as uncomfortable and unsafe (driver is "sitting on the bumper" and first to arrive at a crash"). This is why cab over design came to a grinding halt and few if any changes were made to them after the early 80's. The most modern cab over that was available in the US/Canada was the Frieightliner Argosy which was popular with movers, curtain side car haulers and boat haulers. But the sales weren't enough and the Argosy was discontinued in 2007, an end to the sale of cab overs in North America. But some American made cab overs continue to be produced in Australia and New-zealand such as the Kenworth K104, Freightliner Argosy and the International 9800. I doubt they will ever appear again as there is little demand and a lingering stigma of their perceived comfort and safety (which is untrue of today's European cabovers). BUT Kenworth is producing off road only C500K cab over trucks with the DAF XF95 cab for oil field work. Thaddeusw (talk) 23:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You still see a few cabovers in the US.  For no readily apparent reason, about 95% of them appear to be hauling hay or straw. Mr Larrington (talk) 15:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cab over the engine

message: The statement "Contrary to the former article written on this topic, tandem setups are not restricted to certain roads anymore than a single setup. The exception are the units listed above. They are also not restricted because of weather or "difficulty" of operation.", sounds like an arguement that made it into the main article. At the minimum it does not sound encyclopedic nor up to wikipedia's standards.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.221.111.43 (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: contrary to the former article

message: The fifth picture in the article shows a truck with a full and partial trailer, calling it a 'Rocky Mountain Double.' This is an incorrect description as Rocky Mountain Doubles are trucks that haul 2 full trailers. This truck does have a double trailer, but if I am not mistaken, the term 'Rocky Mountain' refers to the fact that trucks with 2 full trailers are limited to operating in the Rocky Mountain states, whereas trucks like this one are allowed in most parts of the country.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.241.55.204 (talk) 11:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rocky Mountain Doubles

message: should it be mentioned that in some versions of the PowerRangers frnachise they use semis, in some cases for transport and such, and I think in other, the semi is actually one of the transforming giant robots? --TiagoTiago (talk) 21:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: why? What relevance does it really have to the subject of Semi's on the whole? BlakJakNZ (talk) 04:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: PowerRangers' trucks?

message: In this section there are two subsections "Used in the United States:" and "Used elsewhere:". What's so special about the USA? --Sigmundg (talk) 17:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The USA has its own semi truck configurations and styles which are much different than European designs which have influenced other countries. For example The USA and Canada almost exclusively use conventional or "bonneted" trucks which are only sold in a few other countries such as Mexico, Australia, New Zealand and parts of South America. They have a different brake plumbing system (but mostly the same) and have 12 volt electrical systems as opposed to European trucks 24 volts. Another example is how Volvo tailored their NH cab for North America by adding longer sleeper options, different hoods and an all American made drive line and braking system with the only foreign parts being the Engine. The only thing a US Volvo and European Volvo have in common is the dash board and engine. Thaddeusw (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-truck ,anufacturers

message: thumb|300 px| In the middle, and very tiny on this photo we have the infamous "shunt truck". Also known as "shunter", "terminal tractor", "yard mules", "yard dogs", "goats", "hostlers", "shifters", "switches", "ro-ro tractors" etc.
Would it be worth mentioning here about Shunt trucks seeing as they dont have their own Article? Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 09:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno. Never heard of them. --Athol Mullen (talk) 10:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats not very helpful. I have heard about shunt trucks, or at least seen some. But I don't really don't know enough about them to write. Steinberger (talk) 17:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I work across a large portion of the automotive industry and I haven't heard of a shunt truck. I had hoped that by commenting that I'd never heard of such a thing, someone might have provided at least a description of what they are supposed to be if not a web link. Otherwise, I'd probably have to assume that they were either a hoax or a local term for something which is known under some other name elsewhere. --Athol Mullen (talk) 01:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't have any experience from the automotive industry nor am I a native speaker of english. However, one of the biggest manufacturers seem to be native to my homeland, namely Kalmar Industries and they are quite common here in Sweden. However, the term "shunt truck" seem to be very canadian and not all-english. Nevertheless, it reefers to the highly specialized tractors shunting trailers around terminals and harbors as seen in the picture. Steinberger (talk) 02:45, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

text: This is the type of Shunt truck I actually had in mind. Do others call it by a different name? The driver does not have to exit the vehicle cab to lift the trailers "standing legs" as the entire hitch point lifts about 9inches after being connected to the trailer, with the "standing legs" down. It is not really ment for Road use, just for "shunting" trailers from place to place in the yard. Quite efficient and strong, I have seen one pull a trailer with completely seized axle's. Exit2DOS  • Ctrl • Alt • Del 02:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Oddly enough, this sounds like a North American thing. That sounds like its notable enough to me ... so started at Shunt truck. Feel free to add. Exit2DOS  • Ctrl • Alt • Del 20:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Shunt trucks

message: Nowhere in Wikipedia can I locate any reference to 'Rearward Amplification'.  
Suggest senior editors add this section.  If you would like me to prepare 
this section, please let me know.  Jeffrey Meade. --Sponsion (talk) 15:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rearward Amplification: unwanted trailer oscillations

message: Perhaps a little rewording on the use of the term 'tandem' is in order. Describing a trailer as having two tandem axles would mean it has 8 wheels...not such a common occurrence in my experience.
Seems like the article has a lot of that ambiguity and poor terminology going on, however.
184.153.196.39 (talk) 05:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Axles 

message: The second paragraph of this section looks very un-Wiki-like.
Dkril (talk) 18:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underride guard 

message: Licensing is one part of safety.  Engineering a system so it stops unless it's operating is another.  I came to this article looking for information about spiffy safety devices like radar, eye cameras, or whatever might be out there.  What about GPS?  Surely there are truck versions of GPS that take into account restrictions on various routes.  -- ke4roh (talk) 02:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Advanced driver assistance systems. —Scheinwerfermann T·C19:27, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is safety/technology info? 

message: I'm wondering where the use of the word "tractor" in this case, comes from.
69.171.160.90 (talk) 19:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Tractor" and "Traction" have the same root. The idea is that the tractor is what supplies the pulling force. —Scheinwerfermann T·C19:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is it Called a "Tractor" Trailer instead of a "Truck-Trailer"?

message: The rear wheels on this truck has independent steering, otherwise it wouldn't be able turn corners. • Sbmeirow • Talk •  21:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rear Wheels with Independent Steering 

message: Someone really needs to decide on one way to refer to the tractor/artic/prime mover/what have you--and then use it consistantly throughout the article. While hopping between them may feel inclusive, it is also somewhat annoying to read through and potentially very confusing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.82.68.160 (talk) 13:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistant terminology 

message: The Lithuanian interwiki points to :lt:Automobilvežis, apparently an article about car transporters (trucks that transport cars). I don't think this link is such a great idea. But I'll refrain from attempting to remove the link, since helpful robots and humans would return it anyway. --Jmk (talk) 11:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwikis 

message: This article could stand some proofreading, preferably from someone who has gone beyond Pidgin English. DCDuring (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proofreading 

message: Hi. I have removed the deletion tag because a) I couldn't find any link to a discussion of the proposed deletion and b) because I sense the article is probably notable, but needs a cleanup rather than outright deletion. Views? --Bermicourt (talk) 11:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There is a lot of good info, and a fair number of refs, here. Plenty of editors stop by, and the view numbers are good, too.Sammy D III (talk) 13:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion tag removed 

message: Actually, “double bottom” is in common use around here (Chicago). No idea where the “bottom” comes from, but it’s used. I have never heard of “a set” or “joints”, but I have never talked to a driver who drove one (only UPS uses them around here). I have never heard of a “dolly” called “con-gear”, but again, same qualification. This is all personal knowledge with no sources used now, but if someone can ref “joints” then I should be able to ref “bottoms”.
Transmissions are a mess. Macks come (came?) with 5 speeds standard.  Where does “18 speeds” come from, a 5x4 has 20 total. I can think of no 18 speed combinations.  (It is: 4 gears X 2 ranges = 8 speeds all split X 2 = 16 + low gear split X 2 = 18. Sorry Sammy D III (talk) 03:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slang names 

message: Trucks are commonly measured by wheels, 4x2, 4x4, etc. This system has two wheels per axle, single or dual tires do not matter. Combinations are often counted by axles. Laws appear to always count axles.
Some US west coast over the road truckers said “eighteen-wheeler” for their 5 axle combinations, referring to the number of tires. Local slang, sort of. Movies have made this nickname common, but other than that, tires are not often counted. This can be confusing.
Crismon(01) explains the wheel system in detail, I think pretty much everyone uses it. It is (number of wheels) x (number of powered wheels). RSA shows single and dual tires are the same. US laws use axle, with no mention of single or dual tires. Duals are prohibited on steer axles. Sammy D III (talk) 03:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes: Axle, tire, wheel 

message: Since there is some debate, I looked back through the logs, and sure enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semi-trailer_truck&direction=next&oldid=926680
License, not licence, and the whole article was flushed out without using the word "lorry".  It's in AmE, not BrE, please refrain from changing it back.
Cheers, ~~ipuser 90.194.62.161 (talk) 22:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be reverted. Whilst the article probably was created in US English and so should generally use US English, it's also an international article with distinct sections on national variations. A UK section within that should remain in UK English. This sort of Emersonian "foolish consistency" is bureaucracy for the sheer sake of it.  What's next?  Describing how "big rigs" run down the A13 "freeway" to Southend?  Andy Dingley (talk) 07:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we are supposed to stay consistent throughout an article, as has been stated many times.  In this case, it means that when we start talking about semi-trailer trucks in the UK that they become lorries that ride on tyres.  Notice that in the other sections, they aren't called "big rigs" or anything else, just "semi-trailer trucks".  Your argument that something should be in british english just because the paragraph is about the UK is wrong, there's nothing special about Britain that lets it get a pass at ENGVAR.  Sorry mate.  ~~ipuser 90.194.62.161 (talk) 05:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  AmE

message: In the US "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating" (GVWR) is for a single vehicle. "Gross Combination Weight Rating" (GCWR) is for a truck or tractor with all trailers. The  USDOT and these states use "combination" for vehicles and not "combined" for weight.
 
(defines GCW and GCWR) 
  (defines GCW and GCWR)
.
 These three states 
 use "combined" describing weight, but refers to vehicles as "combination". Sammy D III (talk) 03:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just posted fifty-one rock solid refs for one word which probably won't be used anyway. An old-timer has told me that both words are acceptable and changed to the unrefrenced version, as well as other changes, without further discussion. Sammy D III (talk) 12:46, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm really scratching my head as to why this is such a big deal. Both terms are used interchangeably worldwide. In the U.S., there is a favor toward using "combination" over "combined", while elsewhere in the world the use is also split but with a trend toward "combined". A quick Google search finds both phrases in use by both the USDOT and the NHTSA. Regardless, I've changed the article so your concerns will be assuaged. — Huntster (t @ c) 14:03, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, seems I forgot to press "Save page" a couple of hours ago. Something like: Wow, was that fast, thank you very much. I'm going to move one section down for dimentions. Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight ratings 

message: 171,000 on 17 axles with only two trailers. Wow.
I am thinking of sorting and condensing Europe into UK, Continental, and Scandinavia. Each seems to have it's own conditions, and the article sort of breaks that way already.
North America has a sub-section Trucks, Europe has the same type of info in the front, it just isn't called Trucks. Shouldn't they be the same, and what should they be called?
Objections? Comments? If I do something I will try to do it in big pieces so it will be easy to revert.
:Same deal, cut and paste, remove duplicate, smooth a little. Some sub-subsections were wrong, I removed them until someone can get them right. I think you need at least two, like an outline. I put dollies in Europe, behind truck info. I moved Semi-truck manufacturers to the bottom of Construction, I thought it belonged somewhere in there. A couple of small things that I can't remember, too.
::Australia looks very good to me, I only moved super singles to right behind number of tires. I am not sure about paragraphs.
:::I took a couple of lines about hydraulics out of === Braking ===. I don't believe them, they are not referenced, and the hooking up of trailers is the important thing anyway. But if someone disagrees... Sammy D III (talk) 18:25, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  12 Jul 2016 reword 

message: I am almost sixty years old, and I have never heard a semi-trailer truck called a "semi-truck." It can be a "semi" a "tractor," a "big rig," or a "truck." Where is the support or citation for "more commonly called a semi truck"? 40.134.106.218 (talk) 16:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Semi-truck"? 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Conventional 18-wheeler truck diagram.svg will be appearing as picture of the day on July 16, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-07-16. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Conventional 18-wheeler truck diagram.svg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: Anybody know what the intended meaning of the 4th sentence is?  "The reauires is that both the tractor and semi-trailer will have a design distinctly different..." I can't make heads-or-tails of it. 117.110.113.183 (talk) 02:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th sentence makes no sense 

message: The article should explicitly state that semi trucks use diesel, not gasoline, if that's the case. It currently only implies it. Benjamin (talk) 08:22, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diesel  

message: You'll need to scroll through each one of the three references to find the diagram the shows the maximum  legal length of semi-trailer trucks allowed in three Canadian provinces and likely true in all of Canada because these rigs travel all over N. America and Mexico. In the US the equivalents in feet an inches are the rule.
British Columbia, max. dimension of semi-trailer truckManitoba, max. dimension of semi-trailer truckOntario, max. dimension of semi-trailer truck 
=== References ===
 Peter Horn User talk 21:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The references are in relation to the dimensions of commercial vehicles including semi-trailer trucks Peter Horn User talk 02:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maximum dimensions 

message: Peter Horn User talk 21:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The references are in relation to the dimensions of commercial vehicles including semi-trailer trucks Peter Horn User talk 02:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: A certain semiliterate User:Oliver Gunn introdced this attrocety KG, 44,000KG (97,003 pound), in the Semi-trailer truck Revision as of 2020-05-08T09:18:05 Peter Horn User talk 03:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad symbol KG 

message: I came to this article hoping to find information about the origins of the Tractor-trailer as a significant cargo hauler and was disappointed.  I guess if I want to know more about the earliest days of trucking I'll need to look elsewhere -- but I fear it'll turn out the subject is not well documented anywhere. This was my experience when I wanted to learn more about the Red Ball Express.
I'm not complaining -- Wikipedia is what we make it -- but I wanted to put out there that I think information about this part of this subject is lacking in the hope of fomenting some interest.  jhf (talk) 00:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Hello! So at the top of the page, it basically says "any term you could think of that means semi-trailer truck redirects here, you might be looking for this instead". I think we should reduce the amount of terms listed at the top of the page. Any ideas? ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:23, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @Blaze The Wolf: I do see a near duplicate (Big Rig and Big rigs) that I will combine into . There's always the option of using  as well. Danre98 (alt) (talk) 23:40, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many redirects? 

message: I've lived all my six decades in Canada, the US, and the Carribean, and never used "semi", always 18 wheeler, and barely heard semi. 
The word should at a minimum be present in the article. In a Google search, there's 5+ million entries for 18 wheeler and 9+ million entries for semi trailer.
Furthermore, there exists a disambiguation page for 18 wheeler, which speaks of Semi trailers, but does not link to this article?! Tallard (talk) 04:31, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Eighteen-wheeler is already noted in the opening paragraph and in the North American section as being an alternative term, so it doesn't need to be used throughout the article. As Wikipedia covers more than just North America, it's using the most correct or popular term for global English speakers (which you rightly pointed out in your Google stats). Motorracer (talk) 10:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seriously lacking 18 wheeler language