Talk:Assamese language

message: I feel the discussion is not appropriate in the main page and should be carried out here.  Chaipau 00:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Difference between Assamese and kamrupi

message: I have created an article Assamese Literature from the History section of this article.  This is because this section mostly describes the literature in the language.  I believe now we may compress this section here considerably and focus on Assamese literature exclusively in the new article.  I shall begin compressing this section in a few days time, after other editors get a chance to see this. Chaipau 13:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Creating [[Assamese Literature]]

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation--D-Boy 19:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  translators needed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation]] 

message: If Assam will soon change its name to Asom, does this mean that the word Assamese will change to Asomese? --Akut 10:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Asomiya? Chaipau 17:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe. In German the name is already Asamiya. --Akut 14:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The name change is not official yet and is fraught with discord among the people about "rebranding" Assam. Consider the recent [National Games] in Assam (not Asom!). There are many other instances of the debate being taken up even on [international fora] supported by extensive research. -- Deepraj 11:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assam --> Asom 

message: I am going to delete the words "giving it a characteristic expressiveness and charm" from the following sentence from "Formation of Assamese:" 
Since the time of the Charyapada over the passage of the centuries it has been influenced by the languages belonging to the Sino-Tibetan and Austroasiatic families giving it a characteristic expressiveness and charm.
How does one judge that a language is expressive and charming?  Aren't all languages expressive?  Isn't that what languages do?  And, the word charming strikes me as being a little nineteenth century, as in, "The charming natives use an expressive language." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gordonmonaghan (talk • contribs) 20:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Man, I can't take someone who accuses an article of being "racist" very seriously, based on his uncoformimg, so you are telling me that just because an article THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ASSAMESE LANGUAGE, don't talks about the all ones being charming,This is already something ridiculous, I can't understand why this even existed, a topic that only shows too much shallow and hasty knowledge,I don't see arguments, but purely arrogance and a person desperate for attention, pitiful. 177.105.94.163 (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

text: This one was the worst I've seen so far, know that this kind of thing doesn't make you respect yourself, you just lose credibility, I'd much rather disappear from the world than see this again, have a good time! 177.105.94.163 (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronistic and potentially racist description of Assamese 

message: I propose a disambiguation article for Assamese which currently redirects to Assamese language. Please check out the Talk:Assamese section for more details.
The reason for adding this comment here is to ensure no surprises for the current path to get here.
Deepraj 13:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation needed for Assamese 

message: Should we redirect the Writing System to Eastern Nagari script? After that, may be, we can merge Bengali script and Assamese script as these two articles essentially deal with the same set of scripts. -Bikram98 06:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried to merge Bengali script and Assamese script in the past.  It does not work.  It is best to develop Eastern Nagari script as the mother article that tackles the development of the script and to let the two (or three) daughter articles to specify the language specific features.  The Assamese-Bengali script for Manipuri will be replaced by the Meitei script soon.  Chaipau 13:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing System 

message: This article contradicts open back rounded vowel because that one says Assamese has an open back rounded vowel but this article doesn't mention one. I see above how this contradiction has arisen but it must be resolved in some way or another. Munci (talk) 10:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Contradiction? I swear that idn that, thank you for bettering my mind, thx. 177.105.94.163 (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I think the following should be the correct IPAs for Assamese back vowels. Again for আ  IMHO it should be the central between open mid and open  inverted /a/ thingy
 
Vowels
   	Front 	Front 	Front 	Central	Central	Central	Back  	Back  	Back
   	IPA   	ROM   	Script	IPA    	ROM    	Script 	IPA   	ROM   	Script
High    	      	i     	ই     	  	  	  	      	u     	উ
High-mid	 	 	 	  	  	  	      	o     	অ'
Mid     	      	e     	এ'    	  	  	  	      	û     	ও
Low-mid 	      	ê     	এ     	  	  	  	 	 	 
Low     	 	 	 	       	a      	আ      	      	ô     	অ
Gahori (talk) 18:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Thoughts on the vowels 

message: Some of the page numbers for Goswami, G. C.; Tamuli, Jyotiprakash (2003), "Asamiya", in Cordona, George; Jain, Dhanesh, The Indo-Aryan Languages, are inconsistent.  They are taken from two different editions.  Need to correct them.  Chaipau (talk) 21:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Page number inconsistency

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=NXZFAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=manipuri+dictionary+english&hl=en&sa=X&ei=17v5ULmLIKnv0QGx24GgBw&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 21:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A dictionary in Assamese and English  

message: A dictionary in Assamese and English: Asamiẏā āru iṃrāji abhidhāna
http://books.google.com/books?id=NXZFAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
A dictionary in Assamese and English (1867)
https://archive.org/details/dictionaryinassa00bronrich
https://archive.org/details/adictionaryinas00brongoog
https://archive.org/details/adictionaryinas02brongoog
Grammatical notices of the Asamese language (1848)
https://archive.org/details/grammaticalnotic00browrich
Hymns in Asamese (1850)
https://archive.org/details/hymnsinasamese00unse
AXAMIYĀ BHĀXĀR MOULIK BISĀR
https://archive.org/details/AxamiyBhxrMoulikBisr_16
Rajmaan (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assamese language materials 

message: Hi, I've suggested to rename seven User asm categories to User ASM. The lower case names would conflict with the Ethnologue/IANA/ISO asm language code as used in the  magic. The existing  templates -0…-5 and -N won't be affected. –Be..anyone (talk) 05:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  User  asm 

message: Both references used in this section are unreliable. One is completely in Assamese, so a translation has to be used a reference in the English wikipedia, if it is to be used as a source here. The second one is 'self-published' and not peer-reviewed. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 13:47, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The first reference has an English preface, which explains this theory. Chaipau (talk) 04:22, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hello , can we get a quote from that preface in the reference ? Any ideas about the reliability of the second reference ? I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 12:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

text: What? So you're telling me Wikipedia has unreliable sources? Wow, I really didn't know that, you're telling the obvious, yeah it got,but you won't help it at all just critizing, right? 177.105.94.163 (talk) 23:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Theories section 

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message: 2405:204:B08D:3656:0:0:2662:A5 (talk) 15:15, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --DannyS712 (talk) 15:27, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2018 

message: The links to dialects are restored.  I do not understand why they cannot be linked from this page.  Please discuss this in here before reverting.  Chaipau (talk) 13:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted some deletions you have made (), which removed links to Barpetia dialect and the names of other dialects.  These links and names are needed in the article.  Please discuss how removing them improves this article, before removing them again.  Thanks!   FYI.  Chaipau (talk) 16:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The wiki link as mentioned above is of one of many sub-dialects of various dialects of Assamese language, including all in that way in dialects list will clutter the section and make it unreadable, thus link to dialect is provided and sub-dialects linked in relevant dialect articles.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 08:40, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, but clutter is not a problem here.  The issue is correct representation.  Chaipau (talk) 15:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki links to dialects 

message: Do not POV push your own agenda into a long-standing article, like you did here. If you want to change something, you need to discuss it in the talkpage here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  December 2019 

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message: Sorry, but "[ɦ]" is voiced. What's wrong? Juidzi (talk) 07:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Which source are you using?  I am following Mahanta 2012. Chaipau (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  ⟨[ɦ]⟩ 

message: and I have mused about splitting the grammar section with its huge tables into a separate article. Unfortunately, most of the data is completely unsourced. Can you help us out here? –Austronesier (talk) 09:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect the grammatical section can be sourced to Assamese_language#CITEREFGoswami2003.  It is possible the current tables are from another publication by Goswami which he then republished in Cardona and Jain's "Indo-Aryan Languages".  This is just a suspicion, since I haven't compared the tables here with Goswami and Tamuli's in any great detail.   please help. Chaipau (talk) 10:13, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have a copy of Cardona & Jain. Goswami & Tamuli's data looks quite different, which is however partly due to crazy display issues in the ebook version (e.g. /ɒ/ becomes /p/). G&T illustrate the basic paradigm by means of the base likh-. –Austronesier (talk) 10:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  it seems I was misled by the likh-... Chaipau (talk) 11:06, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The Lick? –Austronesier (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Licked.  Chaipau (talk) 01:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar section 

message: could we conform the Assamese IPA to /ɔxɔmijɑ/ as given in Mahanta 2012?  I don't see where this conflicts with Help:IPA/Assamese.  Also, the English IPA should probably follow the source.  Chaipau (talk) 11:32, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The key doesn't include . The English IPA already does follow the source, as the Oxford Dictionary's  corresponds to our . See also WP:DIAPHONEMIC. Nardog (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks.  I updated the Assamese IPA to conform to Mahanta 2012 at all places in the lede and infobox.  Chaipau (talk) 21:04, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA 

message: The name of this language is Assamese.  An alternative spelling is Asamiya, as given in Mahanta, Goswami/Tamuli etc.  Sometimes "Oxomiya" is used by native speakers to better conform to the native pronunciation, but this has no meaning to non-native speakers.  A better representation of the native pronunciation is already available in IPA, which better represents the native sound.  Chaipau (talk) 19:30, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asamiya not Oxomiya