Talk:Theodore Roosevelt/Archive 2

message: thumb|300px|right|1910 cartoon shows Roosevelt's multiple roles to 1919
The title of the cartoon "1910 cartoon shows Roosevelt's multiple roles to 1919" must surely be incorrect unless the cartoonist had precognitive abilities, Wolbo 10:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cartoon Date 

message: Hello all. I've done a partial revert to correct some vandalism from 209.94.106.3 on 5 Feb 07. Bdevoe 22:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why, but this article is particularly prone to vandalism.  I feel like I'm here to revert something once a day, and I'm only catching a little of it.  How about some kind of protection for it?  -- Oaxaca dan 17:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism reversion 

message: The paragraph that talks about Alice being called sister by her siblings, which appears before she was given to her aunt for care, really confuses me.  Was there time travel so that she lived during the second marriage with her siblings and then traveled back in time to be given to her aunt?  I'm guesing that some point about Alice and TR's relationship later in life, but that isn't related to TR's first marriage.Mulp 01:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Marriage section problems 

message: Theres some stuff in the death section thats not about his death. Im not sure where i should put it though... JamesBenjamin 04:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "death"section 

message: This can no longer be in dispute because we have Roosevelt, himself, pronouncing it on an 1898 audio file and also corresponding with several people on the correct pronunciation "Rose-ah-velt." See audio of TR announcing bugle calls with that pronuciation in 1898 at http://vvl.lib.msu.edu/record.cfm as well as TR from a letter on the same at http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/d227/Theodore_Roosevelt and finally from the Theodore Roosevelt Cyclopedia at the Theodore Roosevelt Association (TRA) Web site at http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/TR%20Web%20Book/TR_CD_to_HTML571.html SimonATL 22:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Pronunciation of Roosevelt's Last Name 

message: Roosevelt was on the cover of Time Magazine as the feature article on June 26, 2006 entitled, The 20th Century Express - At home and abroad, Theodore Roosevelt was the locomotive President, the man who drew his flourishing nation into the future. Any bets if the editors read our article.  I also heard that Time Magazine's editors did consult with the Theodore Roosevelt Association in researching their cover story. SimonATL 22:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theodore Roosevelt makes the cover of Time Magazine 

message: The first item states TR's first photo was of him looking out window at Lincoln funeral train. I have never seen any factual record to verify that one of these two faces was TR. I think we need to stick to the facts and re-write this to say one of the two distant faces could possibly be TR. The faces are way too small in the photo. The photo by the way was an area wide photo of Lincoln Funeral train with many distant faces. To say it IS a picture of TR is really not correct. This has never been proven to show TR, . . Or has it been??
: You are correct about the controversy surrounding that photo. While many authoritive accounts says something like, "It is thought to be a young Theodore Roosevelt and his sister..." or words to that effect, the Theodore Roosevelt Association has traced this photo to TR's grandfather's home, indicating on their web site that in this photo, a young Theodore, "Watches Abraham Lincoln's funeral procession from an upstairs window of his grandfather's house on Union Square, New York City. With him are his younger brother Elliott and a friend named Edith Kermit Carow."  See http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/timeline.htm SimonATL 23:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other" section 

message: Where is the content for this heading? It makes the overall article weaker by raising reader expectations Fidelia 01:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First marriage 

message: In the "Puck" cartoon of TR handing over his polices to Taft, can we get an identification of who the bellman carrying the Big Stick is a caricature of?  Wondering, -- Infrogmation 16:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to an edit by User:SimonATL to the image while it was here on en:Wikipedia, it is William Loeb. Unfortunately that info wasn't transfered when the image was moved to Commons; I have corrected that shameful oversight. -- Infrogmation 16:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puck cartoon 

message: I think it is William Loeb in the pic but it sure does look like Theodore Roosevelt playing all the characters but maybe it is someone else. Who knows?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.120.145.194 (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puck 

message: What happened to the main page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubbablake 2 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean the Theodore Roosevelt article, you inappropriately removed a word and added blank indentation at the start of a paragraph, which the Wiki software makes into preformated text. I fixed it for you. HTH, -- Infrogmation 00:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: The article at present says "Roosevelt did not swear on the Bible nor on any other book, making him unique among presidents." The first phrase of the sentence is sourced, the second had a request for a reference. This list on memory.loc was just given as a citation, but I am removing it because as far as I can see it does not actually confirm the final phrase of the sentence. This list of what presidents took the oath by lists several as "unknown".  Unless we have a specific reference showing that all other presidents than TR took their oaths on a book, I suggest we change the phrase to something on the order of "Roosevelt did not swear on the Bible nor on any other book, contrary to the ususual tradition of US presidents." Other thoughts? -- Infrogmation 11:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reworded the passage to a less sweeping claim per the above. -- Infrogmation 03:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First oath of office 

message: The article currently says (without citation):
:Overall, historians credit Roosevelt for changing the nation's political system by permanently placing the presidency at center stage...
Historians do generally agree that he did this, but whether they credit or blame him for it is another matter; that an expansion of presidential power was a good thing is a quite controversial thesis. A number of critics of neoconservatism, in particular, blame Roosevelt for setting a precedent whereby the presidency simply seizes power for itself. See, among other sources, Thomas Woods's 33 Questions About American History You're Not Supposed to Ask, pp. 136–142 (admittedly not the world's most neutral source, but it was the first one handy; there are plenty of more sober analyses, from both the left and the libertarian right, that criticize Roosevelt on this point). As a more trivial point, Mark Twain was also not a fan of his policies ("insane & irresponsible"). --Delirium 09:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  power of the presidency 

message: OK, I can understand that people might often mispronounce "Roosevelt", but I've never heard anyone get the number of syllables wrong, which makes that comment seem strange and pointless.  Simply stating that he pronounced the first vowel sound as a long O instead of a long U should be sufficient. - 66.93.200.116 (talk) 14:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I realize that Wikipedia articles are encouraged to have uniform-sized illustrations. However, in the spirit of WP:IAR we should also realize that making a good article sometimes demands a few enlargements. Particularly photos of 50 men of which just one is the essay subject, sometimes defy even identifying the subject without fixing the photo. I've done that for 3 key black and whites in this article. See what you think. I also noted that there was very large empty space at one point, which provided room for a enlargement of the official portrait, which is about as good a visual impression as we have of the standing subject. So I blew that up, too. I hope it works on everybody's readers, and invite comment on this. Also, feel free to enlarge anything else in this article that gives you squints. I personaly had trouble even with a 21 inch viewer, and my eyes are fine. SBHarris 06:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo problems 

message: The "Assassination attempt" section contains this sentence:
:Roosevelt, as a very experienced hunter and anatomist, besides the fact he wasn't coughing blood meant the bullet had not completely penetrated the chest wall to his lung (he was correct), and so declined suggestions he go to the hospital immediately.
Something's a bit garbled here. Does "besides" mean that he had two reasons not to go?
--207.176.159.90 (talk) 03:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Meant to read "decided", I think. Fixed. SBHarris 04:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor garble 

message: I recently spent a considerable amount of time fact-tagging roughly 1/4 of this article (intending to finish later), which contains a large amount of unencyclopedic prose. User Vidor later swept in and waved his magic wand, undoing all my hard work. In light of this, I'm here to request the addition of a refimprove box at the top of the page. I'd do it myself, but like so much of Wikipedia, this article is apparently no longer a community project. I'd love to see how long the guardians of this article can tolerate their masterpiece being "defaced" by such an irreverent request for quality control.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.198.109 (talk) 16:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I like to think of it as "editing", but "magic wand" does sound more cool. By the way, sticking the word "fact" into an article thousands of times really isn't "hard work".  Vidor (talk) 12:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the hard work is deciding WHERE they should go. I have a hard time believing that every single  tag added was a bad one (I have no idea who the IP user above, is). So if somebody was being lazy, who was it more likely to be? Just WP:AGF and remove some of the tags you really don't like at all and think are outrageous, and leave the ones that are at least plausable. That will make this more of a community project. That said, remember, please, that in general articles can be assumed to be running factually on the last cite given, unless they switch to making some really outrageous or very quantitative comment. We don't need a cite for every sentence or even every paragraph. If we did, we'd need some "hidden" reference system, like the professional biographies being written today use. SBHarris 23:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the respect, SBHarris.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.198.109 (talk) 21:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  refimprove 

message: I've just read the article and I think the lead paragraph could do with a major re-vamping, it looks too long and un-tidy. AndreNatas (talk) 22:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lead paragraph 

message: From the article:
* "Civilised man can only keep the peace by subduing his barbarian neighbour."
* "Their life was only a few degrees less meaningless, squalid and ferocious than that of wild animals." (Justifying his role in slaughtering Indians in South Dakota.)
That says nothing about white supremacy, at all. --Windsock (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  White supremacist beliefs? 

message: I decided to rewrite and repair all of the convoluted prepositional
phrases in the final paragraph (The 1884 convention). Not only were 
they confusingly stacked, in unwieldy sentences, but there were unnecessary 
words that hindered the sentence flow. You can see the earlier versions for this.
I think it reads better now.Dfoofnik (talk) 19:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The run-on sentences in the 1884 convention 

message: Just a brief mention of Mr. Jim Foote who regularly goes around the country (I've seen him in DC and in TR's home town, where I live) "performing" as President Roosevelt. Anyone who is a "fan, admirer and TR enthusiast" would probably agree mentioning Mr. Foote is appropriate or at the very least an interesting tid-bit. Dantali (talk) 16:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noted Teddy Roosevelt Impersonator 

message: Sorry if this is really minuscule, but in the army template thing a ways down in the article detailing TR's command, his rank is listed as "Colonek", which I am assuming should be "Colonel" as the article itself states.  This is a minor thing, but I don't have an account ATM, so if anyone agrees, it would be a good idea to change it?  Thanks. 68.56.217.30 (talk) 15:08, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Accurizer (talk) 15:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Typo 

message: Theodore Roosevelt was the first American to be awarded a Nobel Prize (in any category) in 1906, and he remains the only sitting president to win the Nobel Peace Prize (for his part in ending the Russo-Japanese War). Jimmy Carter won the award as a former president.
What about Woodrow Wilson (1919)?
:Also there is no "Nobel Peace Prize" Icon for Mr. Teddy Roosevelt like there is one for Al Gore. any editor who knows how to put one in please do so.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.140.166 (talk) 02:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There was one, but it got deleted about a month ago when the image was removed from the Commons.  I've put it back.  -- Zsero (talk) 16:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only Sitting President 

message: This quote from New York World is a journalistic satire, not a real example of spelling reform.
Page 155 of Robert E. Kling's 1970 The Government Printing Office, has details on this, including the date of publication in the newspaper.  Unfortunately, Google Books isn't letting me read the whole page on that.--Pharos (talk) 04:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanksgiving Day proclamation 

message: This incident may in fact be important enough to Roosevelt's career that it does belong somewhere on this page, but the paragraph that keeps getting added to the "views on race" section seems to have parachuted in there at random.  I appreciate that the IP editor is trying to be reasonable, and has trimmed down the unsourced editorialising that it used to contain, but now we need to decide whether it belongs on the page at all, and if so where?  It also still needs cleaning up, since the latest version just isn't comprehensible English.  But the more important question is where, if anywhere, to put it.
ETA: It is already at Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, where it occupies one sentence.  It certainly shouldn't take up more space in the main article than it does in the sub-article.  -- Zsero (talk) 22:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brownsville shooting 

message: He appears to have been given the same pronunciation as FDR. TR was rose velt whereas FDR was roo se velt 13:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added "Citation needed" to the article's questionable claim about pronunciation. My understanding is that Roo se velt is correct for Teddy, but ROSE se velt is correct for FDR, but I don't have a reference. --MiguelMunoz (talk) 03:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Can we find a better picture of the Lincoln Penny? By 1968, the image of Lincoln had strayed from VDB's work, and had much bolder features. In 1969, the mint decided to return to VDB's original design, which was more subtle, but since that time, the work has strayed again. An image of a 1969 penny or a 1909 penny would be a better tribute to VDB's work. --MiguelMunoz (talk) 03:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lincoln Penny Image 

message: Under the "firsts" section, this award should be cited as "the Medal of Honor", not "a Medal of Honor".
Additionally the MOH image should be included and placed at the top of his image as well.  I had placed it next to the Noble Peace Price and someone unjustly removed it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.219.24 (talk) 06:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal of Honor 

message: I heard a version of the "Big Stick" quote once that went
:Speak softly and carry a big stick, and all the world will listen.
Is this someone embellishing or is this part of the original quote?  Obviously with out confirmation and citation it can't go in the article but I thought it relevant if minor.  Dachande (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Stick Quote 

message: The Noble icon was there...now it's been deleted for some erroneous reason.  
T.R. deserves having BOTH the MOH & NPP icons near his image due to their tremendous significance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.104.17 (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal of Honor & Noble Peace Prize icons need to be added 

message: I'm reading David McCullough's "Mornings on Horseback" right now and on pg. 19, it states the building is a five-story, and so I changed it accordingly. However, the official brochure I downloaded by a .pdf file says "A fourth story was also added to the original three-story brownstone." However, it doesn't say anything about further renovations. Therefore it implies that it is a four-story. Which is right? Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 13:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five-story house or Four-story house? 

message: When did Roosevelt leave the office of Assistant Secretary of the Navy? The infobox is wrong, and the information is not in the article. Sectori (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean the picture in David McCullough's Mornings on Horseback on apge 129, at the bottom. The picture is from the Theodore Roosevelt collection, Harvard. Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 10:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've checked just now but the photos are unavailable on the 'net as of yet. However, if it can be of any interest to the English Wikipedia, the web pages you should visit are here and here. Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 10:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secretary of the Navy 

message: I was always told that TR was a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity while at Harvard, I noticed today that the TR wikipedia page lists his fratewrnity as Alpha Delta Phi. Both fraternities seem to claim his membership. What's the correct answer?Jlbelford4 (talk) 18:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  TR's fraternity at Harvard 

message: The citation for the story that the Teddy bear is so named because Roosevelt refused to kill it actually contradicts that claim in the article; this link says Roosevelt order a bear's mercy killing. I don't know if I ought to edit the article or the link, as I'm not sure which is true. Seijihyouronka (talk) 22:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  teddy bear origin story 

message: Why no edit?? I was going to put some information that Teddy was the youngest president in the history of the United States, but I can't edit the aricle to do so.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madirox22 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is semi-protected until  22:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The third paragraph already says he was "the youngest person to become President" and it's mentioned again in the "Presidency 1901-1909" section. There's also a footnote that explains that JFK was the youngest person elected President  - Horo (talk) 04:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no edit?? 

message: What is the reason for including the "Moh" image and link to the left of Roosevelt's name in the infobox?  There is no source citation to justify this inclusion, and it thus seems inappropriate.  I propose deletion of this medal-like image and link.  Comments? —Adavidb 11:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked Archive2 and realized the link is what needed to be corrected (to "Medal of Honor"), which I've done. —Adavidb 12:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moh? 

message: This account clearly comes from Owen Wister. The story where C.S. Hanks and TR fought, Hanks punched TR when the referee called time at the end of a round. However, not only did the article Wister wrote appear twenty years after the incident, another eyewitness, George Spalding, called Wister's account "the most barefaced egregious manufactured history ever conceived." Additionally, while the NY Times and the Harvard Advocate published comments and accounts of the boxing match, none of them mention any high sportsmanship, nor does TR himself in his diary. Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 11:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So, if there's no objections, I'll delete it. Exec. Tassadar  (comments, contribs) 06:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sportsmanship - Factual accuracy doubted 

message: TR was a prolific writer and incredibly effective public speaker - but there is nothing in the article to suggest that or to provide a good link to this info. Aren't there any TR specialists out there that could make this contribution to the article?Vontrotta (talk) 11:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writings, speeches 

message: Would anyone mind if I were to add a bit about the resolution of the Venezuela crisis, which essentially precipitated the Roosevelt Corrollary to the Monroe Doctrine.  It is really a marvelous bit of diplomacy.  There are features of TR's foreign policy that demonstrate a mastery of "speak softly" as opposed to the dominant view of his "big stick" attitude.
Quigonpaj (talk) 15:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign Policy 

message: The beginning of the article makes claims about Roosevelt and universal health care, but I do not see where this is discussed in the article proper. Am I missing something? 65.6.60.78 (talk) 14:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health care 

message: The following sentence occurs in the first paragraph of the Republican Party Rift section:
"When Roosevelt realized that lowering the tariff would risk severe tensions inside the Republican Party—pitting producers (manufacturers and farmers) against merchants and consumers—he stopped talking about the issue."
This sentence starts a discussion about some tariff, without having mentioned anywhere in that section what tariff they are referring to. It looks as if somehow in the editing process, there was a disconnect introduced between the section up to this sentence, and the remainder of this section. I don't know enough about the subject to fix it, but as a reader I found it confusing.
--MisterSquirrel 01:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republican party rift 

message: I think its important to show photos that emphasize TR's vigorous and bellicose nature because they went into the making who he was. Also added photos to TR's first wife, Alice and his first daughter, Alice.  Added pages with photos of both Roosevel's mother, Martha (Mittie) Bulloch Roosevelt and his father Theodore, Sr.  Please continue to edit for clarity and content. Thanks SimonATL 8:10, 20 Feb 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added better quality photos and other pages on parents, sister and daughter 

message: this quote:
"Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."[72]
is supposedly from the [72] reference page, but it is actually not to be found there.--132.69.238.217 (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote not actually found in referenced article 

message: I saw the too long tag on the article and did some measurements. I used Firebug_(Firefox_extension) to get total size and download time for a fast broadband connection (so time depends on wikimedia server bandwidth).
* Theodore Roosevelt 731 KB total, 16 seconds
* George H. W. Bush  380 KB, 18 seconds
* Bill Clinton       738 KB, 16 seconds
The actual HTML part of each article (not including the images, javascript and CSS) is around 90 Kilobytes, so most of the contribution to the slow loading of these articles is not due to the text. It is due to images, references, and the navigation templates at the bottom.
I also used wikipedia's Page Size gadget to get the prose size:
* Theodore Roosevelt 61 kB (10114 words) 
* George H. W. Bush  41 kB (6768 words)
* Bill Clinton       49 kB (7869 words) 
That's as far as I got before wikimedia servers reported problems. Even though the figures might look not so good for Theodore Roosevelt's article, I don't think it should be split for readability reasons alone (i.e. I did not find it arduous to read). If the too long tag is intended to alert editors that it's taking too long to load (and must be impossible for a dial-up user), I would agree, but most Featured Articles have this problem and the solution lies not in cutting the text but in severely pruning the templates (and maybe reduce the actual byte-size of the image thumnbnails). Maybe split the navigation templates to a subpage?
I hope this helps. -84user (talk) 17:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article may be too long? 

message: The first book published section is written in terribly poor English from the very first sentence ("While at Harvard, the [sic] Roosevelt began a systematic study..."). I would fix it, but I can't edit the page, and the quality of the language frankly leads me to doubt the quality of the content contained therein.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.215.114 (talk) 23:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First book published - The Naval War of 1812 

message: This article indicates that TR did not use a Bible for his inauguration and is footnoted as #46.
At this US Senate site http://inaugural.senate.gov/history/chronology/troosevelt1905.cfm   it says that he used the same Bible he took his oath of office as NY Governor in 1898, and that it was opened to James 1:22-23.
It's an official Senate history site, so shouldn't that be taken as a primary source?
Ktho64152 (talk) 00:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidency 1901 - 1909 

message: In the "Life in the Badlands" section, it is mentioned that Roosevelt read Tolstoy to keep himself awake while guarding three outlaws.  The link attached to the name Tolstoy leads to an article on the Tolstoy family of Russia.  I believe this is a mistake.  Shouldn't the link lead to the article about Leo Tolstoy?  Can someone please change this? I do not know how to.131.193.229.41 (talk) 06:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tolstoy Link 

message: Looking through this article, I am exteremely surprised to find almost no criticism of Teddy, except for the 'Views on race' section, which someone even tried to get deleted or washed down as per above. There has to be some criticism he received somewhere, which should be brough to light. I do agree he was a great man, but the article seems to be severly lacking in balance. 74.95.169.158 (talk) 01:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points, but I've tried to expand the articl to include criticism of his actions including some of his clearly disingenuous statements to the press following the 1885 Republican Convention, pointed out by Henry Pringle, TR's severest critic. I will also, soon be adding the criticisms pointed out by John Morton Blum in his short but excellent work, "The Republican Roosevelt." SimonATL (talk) 01:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: It says he was in favor of universal health care--that's a pretty big criticism.--209.159.37.194 (talk) 01:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism? 

message: In 1901 or 1904, Roosevelt joined an expetition led by Candido Mariano Rondon to the countryside of Brazil in which they discovered a river. Based on this trip he wrote ´Through Brazilian Wilderness`. 
In an issue of ´The New York Times´ released in 1991 or 1992, it is said that Roosevelt 
had contracted a tropical disease while in Brazil.
:: This is the first time I´m editing. I hope this information will be useful
Unsigned comment by 97.96.178.226 at 23:22 on 22/01/2009.
Thanks but we already have this noted in the article under '1913–1914 South American Expedition'. AllanHainey (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roosevelt´s travel to Brazil 

message: There is nothing in the article about his death. I did the math and he was only 61 at the time of his passing. Did the bullet wound in his chest have anything to do with it? How, where, and with whom did he pass away? Dank-you-berry-mooch  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.17.230 (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a Later years and death section. —ADavidB 04:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: TR had long ago, in Harvard diagnosed with a congenital heart ailment. He had taken Nitroglycerin tablets (Nitris Oxyide which keeps the arteries more subtle probably prevented massive heart attacks)
What greatly weakend TR was really his trip down to the Amazon Rain forest in 1913. There, he probably caught or RE-caught Malaria, dysenterry, and several other tropical diseases that greatly weakened his immune system. He also cut himself on his foot which led to a terrible infection that, even before he got out of the jungle, nearly killed him. If not for the care of a physician and his son, Kermit who were on the trip, he never would have survived.  He was also nearly blind in one eye and nearly deaf in one ear. He had terrible attacks of angina indicating partially blocked arteries, blood vessles that brought to him to his knees in pain in the jungle. When his party arrived at the end of the trip, he had to be carried off his dugout on a stretcher. He had lost over 40 pounds. When he returned to NYC, he wrote a friend that that trip had probably shortened his life by 10 years. Actually it shortened his life more than that. He was in and out of hospitals until he died in Jan 1919. In fact, he had been hospitalized in all of Dec of 1918 almost dying right there. He SURELY lived up to one of his most famous mottos - "Better to burn out than rust out!" SimonATL (talk) 07:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: This article is way too long, some of the Presidency should go in the main article. I would also suggest an early life of Theodore Roosevelt, Early professional life of Theodore Roosevelt, and a Post-presidential life of Theodore Roosevelt.--Levineps (talk) 22:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not proper to have two articles on TR's presidency, as is presently the case with Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt's Presidency.  The first article's name seems to be the standard, and the second should be merged with it. —ADavidB 13:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  split article(s) 

message: For some reason, this site lists TR's middle initial as "D."  Why?  What is his middle name?  I keep finding that he had no middle name.  This should be fixed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.146.191.92 (talk) 19:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The initial is provided based on a reference to its being "D" (though no expansion provided) within a book published in 1916. The Navy Department Library's list of Assistant Secretaries of the Navy also includes a "D" as Theodore Roosevelt's middle initial. I've found some web sites that list Theodore Roosevelt among presidents who had no middle name, though I'm not sure of their reliability. —ADavidB 01:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I now understand the middle initial reference in the Navy list is for the president's namesake son Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., so the issue remains clouded. —ADavidB 07:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe he did not have a middle name, as the National Park Service claims (admittedly, on a rather unprofessional page here .) Also the arguement (here) makes sense, that historians love using middle names -- why would the only reference to his middle name be on One page in One book? It is more likely a typo. Surely there is information such as his birth certificate, or from the New York Governors Office that would settle this? - AJ Halliwell (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Records when Roosevelt was born were not nearly as well kept as they are today, so it is entirely possible that there is no birth certificate, or, if there is one, that it has been lost. If his son was a "jr.", then they would have to have the same full name, so it doesn't really make sense that he would have no middle name but his son would. Tad Lincoln (talk) 17:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name 

message: TR is an alumnus of Columbia Law School, a fact not mentioned in the "Categories Section" at the bottom of the page. TR's mention as an alumnus of Columbia University does not compensate for the absence of the former.  See "Categories Section" for FDR 69.121.23.234 (talk) 23:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Columbia Law School alumni 

message: There is no mention of Roosvelt's eccentric coffee drinking why is that? I was watching the History channel and it was mentioned, I went and looked on Wikipedia to clarify and it is not here! I found it on some other websites though. Apparently, he drank up to 1 gallon of coffee a day, I think that is worth noting. I have never edited a wiki entry, and would rather not mess anything up that everyone worked so hard on and I'm not even sure if most of you would consider adding this. Anyways, I will leave it up to the main contributors of this article whether to add this small detail or not. Thanks!
Answer:  You're absolutely right on the coffee. In the "TR Rex" bio, Morris mentions TR's breakfasts "laced as usual by vast infusions of caffeine, served only to stoke Roosevelt's energy." pg 17-18. Interesting point. Let's add it under interesting facts. SimonATL 1:10, 23 Feb 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that house was near the ancestral home of US president Andrew Jackson in Tenessee.
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History Channel's "The Presidents" (1825-1849) 
He drank two gallons of coffee!4DJONG (talk) 18:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small question 

message: Theodore was a member of Alpha Delta Phi NOT Delta Kappa Epsilon as indicated in article. This needs to be corrected. This can be checked in catalogs of the Alpha Delta Phi.
Pneshamkin (talk) 23:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TR was member of Alpha Delta Phi Fraternity at Harvard 

message: It says as of 2008 TR was the only President to recieve this award. To my knowledge he still is.(edit) This should be updated to show this.Frogo Baggins (talk) 02:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It now reads "thus far".  It would be impractical to update this sentence with each passing year another president does not received the medal. —ADavidB 12:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it would I was expectin "to date" but that is just fine. Thank you for changing it. Frogo Baggins (talk) 06:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal of Honor 

message: Do we count him as the youngest president that was not elected until his re-election? Seance President Kennedy was the youngest man to ever be elected to the office of president of the united states.Or do we just say he was the youngest one to hold the office without being elected first?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.130.69 (talk) 04:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Try actually reading the article and see what it says. SBHarris 05:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youngest President in office 

message: This article was too long, and is tagged as such.  So I split off the political positions section into a new article, and summarized it here.  Thoughts? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not like I deleted 8K...more like I moved 15K of the article to someplace else. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 18:18, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter. It's a large change, and per WP:BRD, please wait for discussion here to develop before restoring the change. I have no opinion for or against the change, but it's a big change, and needs discussion before restoring it. UnitAnode 18:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would note that when editing this article, a message "this article is 128KB. It may be appropriate to split it" appears.  Childhood of Theodore Roosevelt could also get its own article. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The 24-48 hours have come and gone, so Political positions of Theodore Roosevelt is here to stay.  I might try the childhood article at a later date Purplebackpack89 (talk) 17:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Political positions of Theodore Roosevelt]] 

message: There is no mention in the article of Theodore Roosevelt National Park, the Elkhorn Ranch unit in particular and the recent acquistion, supported by over 50 conservation groups, of additional lands by the US Forest Service to help preserve the "cradle of conservation".  The US Forest Service is currently going through a planning process on how these lands should be managed for future generations.  In addition, the National Park Service and the US Forest Service are nominating these lands (headquarters, federal lands, and one - agreeable - private landowner) as a National Historic District.  I am certain more information on these efforts can be found out and incorporated into the site by contacting either agency.  Sschwenke (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a lot of stuff that isn't mentioned, and can't be because the article is too long already.  May I suggest mentioning it in a different article, and linking it? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 21:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recognizing Theodore Roosevelt's legacy in North Dakota 

message: I just restored the middle initial and reference in accordance with the extensive discussion and agreement at Talk:Theodore_Roosevelt/archive2#Middle_initial.3F. I only note it here so that we don't have to go through this all over again.
Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 13:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I undid your edit because when you did that, you also reverted the edits regarding the going and coming back of the "very-long" tag and the moving of Political positions of Theodore Roosevelt to its own article. You can put back the D., so long as you do it from the current revision. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 15:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I put back the D, since you think it's OK 24.128.49.84 (talk) 11:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle initial...revisited 

message: Viewing the "Civil Service Commission" section under "Reentering Public Life" the second paragraph is clearly a supposed to be a blockquote.  I went to edit the code and it appear that the blockquote tags are in place an properly formatted. I am not seeing that paragraph display properly.  I am running Mozilla Firefox 3.5.3.  I also viewed the section in IE 8 and it is similarly broken.  67.182.190.19 (talk) 06:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civil Service Commission - Blockquote Broken 

message: I recently undid an edit where this article had the info box codex all messed up and not being pictured on the page. Quite embarrassing to see a former President's wikipedia page not properly protected from vandalism.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.5.241.139 (talk) 22:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most pages on Wikipedia are not protected, including those of former Presidents. Vandalism is an unfortunate part of Wikipedia that all article have to deal with on occasion, but pages generally are not protected unless their is excessive, persistent vandalism, a problem which this article does not currently have. Tad Lincoln (talk) 22:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frequent vandalism; proposed page lock 

message: Needs more summary style and daughter articles.  My main suggestions are Childhood of Theodore Roosevelt and Post-Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt Purplebackpack89 (talk) 03:08, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  100 KB tag/splits 

message: Somewhere along the line, somebody changed the section entitled "Political Positions" to "Roosevelt's Views", buried the link to Political positions of Theodore Roosevelt, and added two long sections that belong there, not here.  I renamed it back to "Political Positions", made the link prominent, and pasted the sections there.  Thoughts? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:16, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in agreement with the changes you made. —ADavidB 04:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I found the 'Political Positions' page to have too many duplicate sections to the main section.  The only difference between the 'Political Positions' on the main page and this one was that all the speeches had been removed and an entire section on his view on 'race' had be removed as well.  For the sake of cohesiveness and because it really doesn't add that much to the section, I put the speeches back in the main page.  Looking at the 'Political Positions' page now is irrelevant.  I think this link should be removed.  -- Demosfoni (talk) 05:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm reverting that edit on the grounds that a) block quotes really don't belong anywhere, and b) the article was too long, which is why I broke off the political positions page in the first place. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 01:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roosevelt's Views and Political Positions of Theodore Roosevelt 

message: The main article on Theodore Roosevelt, 26th U.S. present, contains these two sentences.
"He was effectively running the US Department of the Navy when the Spanish American War broke out; he resigned and led a small regiment in Cuba known as the Rough Riders, earning himself the Medal of Honor."
 
"Colonel Roosevelt and the Rough Riders after capturing San Juan HillFor his actions, Roosevelt was nominated for the Medal of Honor which was subsequently disapproved."
I could not access the article to correct it.
Arnold Bendixen (talk) 00:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the passages that are in the article. I will examine the source to see which is correct. Way To Go. Nice catch.--Jojhutton (talk) 01:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medal of Honor 

message: I just wanted to ask what was it that was spammed? I don't believe I have ever made any contributions to this article and I apparently have recieved 3 warnings since June of 2006. I have barely started editing articles on Wikipedia around September. Is this an error, I really don't want to get banned or anything especially when it is not my fault. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clow987 (talk • contribs).
:I have had that happen to me before too. I really don't like it. It shows that Wikipedia is faulty.--24.253.226.202 (talk) 18:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're not registered, it shows you're using the same IP address as someone else who vandalized Wikipedia.  If you don't like that, you're free to register an account and use it. —ADavidB 02:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Recieved A Message About Vandalizing This Page 

message: A new history of what the author James Bradley calls "the imperial cruise" -- his previous books include Flags of our fathers; Bradley's father was one of the famous Iwo Jima flag-raisers profiled in that book/movie -- posits that Pres. T. Roosevelt's secret dealings with and leanings toward the Japanese, during the negotiations over the end of the Russo-Japanese war, sowed seeds of the attack, nearly 40 years later, on Pearl Harbor. The eponymous cruise covered in Bradley's new book was a high-profile Pacific cruise sponsored more or less by TR (his daughter Alice and his Secretary of War were amongst those aboard the Manchuria) in 1905 and foreshadowed the Great White Fleet cruise of 1907-9, which TR ordered (per Wiki).
The following bit I added to the introduction of the TR article, at the point of the Russo-Japanese/Nobel Peace Prize note, citing an op-ed Bradley wrote in the NY Times at the time of the recent Pearl Harbor anniversary.
:His [TR's] Asian diplomacy has come under new scrutiny in 2009, being labeled "diplomacy that will live in infamy" as a way to link it to the later 1941 Japanese Pearl Harbor attack. ref name="NYT01" "Diplomacy that will live in Infamy", Op-Ed by James Bradley, The New York Times, December 5, 2009 (p. WK11 of NY ed. Dec. 6, 2009). Retrieved 2009-12-07. /ref 
The bit was removed as "nonscholarly pop history" and the editor suggested I introduce it here on the talk page "first." So doing, now.
I recognize that Bradley's new look at TR and the roots of WW2-Pacific is not from the academy, not a scholarly study. However, my reading of Bradley's piece, a couple of reviews of his books (one here), and an excerpt from the book, led me to feel the work he's done and the information he's uncovered has some credibility, brings some new insight, and is worthy of attention. I don't expect his work to single-handedly turn opinion on the President's actions, and the effects of those actions. It may even be proven not credible. But I also don't think my entry, above, undermined the quality of the TR article; I think it opened the subject for readers to consider on its merits, and to build upon or rebut. 
When removing my bit, the same editor did improve the exisitng article with a citation from a standard history for the section. I would propose, however, also adding my bit back in following that footnote, since my bit introduces a new viewpoint. 
I see there's a  "popular culture" section of the TR article. It seems wrong to relegate Bradley's work to such a corner, but ....
Any thoughts? Swliv (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a dubious claim at best. See the article Correlation does not imply causation. It would be like saying the United States expedition to Korea led to later involvement in the Korean War simply because they both involved Korea. Andy120290 (talk) 23:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The two reviews I've seen on Bradley are highly negative.  I looked at his book and he's not familiar with the scholarship--one hardly expects that of a pop historian who has never published in the time period or on any topic of diplomatic history. (He's best known for his very well written book about his grandfather, who was one of the flag raisers at Iwo Jima). Bradley does not clearly pass the reliable source rule, so I suggest we stick with the scores of solid scholars who have spent years on TR-related topics and whose books have been favorable evaluated. Rjensen (talk) 02:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree with editor, Rjensen. Knowledgeable scholars have all but laughed at Bradley's claims. It's that old logical fallacy that the Romans called "post hoc ergo propter hoc" meaning (because Event 2 happened chronologically "after this (Event 1) therefore (it happened) because of Event 1" thanks. SimonATL (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ideas/work about roots of Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 

message: I haven't made enough edits to be allowed to edit semi-protected pages but there is a lonely quotation mark after his book title "Published after Roosevelt's graduation from Harvard, The Naval War of 1812" was immediately accepted by reviewers who praised the book’s scholarship and style." (Here: )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ImFromNASA (talk • contribs) 03:25, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the extra qote.  Thanks for noticing it.  ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 03:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple Typo 

message: I just got an email from TR's great grandson, Tweed Roosevelt, who is the chairman of the Theodore Roosevelt Association (TRA). Mr. Roosevelt assured me that Theodore Roosevelt had neither a middle name nor middle initial. Additionally, US Navy Commander, Henry Hendrix, who is a board member of the TRA and who did research on this topic, has copies of TR's birth certificate and other documents that indicate NO middle name nor middle initial. Commander Hendrix is emailing these scanned documents to the TRA Web administrator for inclusion on their web site, http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org and as soon as those documents are posted I will remove the middle initial from this page as it's pretty much a settled issue at this point. We'll wait for those docs to come thru. Be prepared for MI removal! Ultimately, it does NOT matter what the press thought or did not think about Roosevelt's alleged middle name or middle initial. The official records speak for themselves. SimonATL (talk) 00:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Interestingly, the earliest mention of Roosevelt's initial "D." is in 1895 () about his May 6 appointment to the New York Police Board of Commissioners, which reads, "Mayor Strong appointed to the Police Board of Commissioners some men of distinction, as Col. Frederick D. Grant (son of Gen. Grant) and Theodore D. Roosevelt, who resigned from the National Civil Service Commission to take this new work, Avery D. Andrews, a West Point graduate, and Andrew D. Parker. Mr. Roosevelt is the head of the commission." The four men listed here all have the initial "D.", which prompts me to wonder if the author simply assigned them the initial after Grant (whose initial is "D." for "Dent") because he did not know their middle names, sort of like how companies sometimes assign the initial "X." to employees with no middle name. Or perhaps more likely, all of the other men did have the initial "D.", and the typist simply was not being careful and gave it to Roosevelt, too. As a side note, here is a photo of these D-initialed men together: . Also, Parker was later removed (on Saint Patrick's Day 1898) by Strong "on the ground of neglect of duty". Back to the initial: here's the real clincher: another report on the Police Board of Commissioners lists Roosevelt as "Theodore W. Roosevelt" . Some other contemporary claims to Teddy Roosevelt's initials: Theodore A. Roosevelt (1900); Theodore B. Roosevelt (1911 1902 1901 1899 1898); Theodore F. Roosevelt (1899); Theodore N. Roosevelt (1914); Theodore R. Roosevelt (1915); and Theodore S. Roosevelt (1907). Not to mention all the other men living in the late 19th and early 20th centuries named "Theodore Roosevelt", including one of the president's cousins, Theodore T. Roosevelt. Based on the arguments laid out in the previous middle initial discussions ("Middle Name", "Middle initial?", "Middle initial...revisited", and "'D'"), this would indicate Roosevelt had multiple middle names. :) All this confusion, which is not confined to Wikipedia, may merit some discussion of his nonexistent initial in the article, though. — the Man in Question (in question) 07:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have heard that the cleaning of their middle names is a constant occupation for people without any.  The old joke in my family  was that my great-uncle's name was "Johnny None" after the middle name given him by the US Army. Jarhed (talk) 08:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theodore Roosevelt – no middle name 

message: The headings of "Education" and "First marriage and response to catastrophic loss" seem out of place.  Shouldn't  "Education" come before "First marriage and response to catastrophic loss"?
Education starts out talking about his home schooling, which happened during his childhood, and he didn't meet Alice until his junior year at Harvard, and they didn't marry until after his graduation.
Just seems very odd to me. > Best O Fortuna (talk) 09:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headings of "Education" and "First marriage and response to catastrophic loss" 

message: footnote link #104 is broken  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.86.152 (talk) 07:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It now points to the updated location. —ADavidB 08:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  fyi 

message: There appears to be a small typo in the "Meat Inspection Act" section.  "...that are impure or falsely label, from..." should read "...that are impure or falsely labeled, from..."
--Loki74 (talk) 23:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: corrected Profitoftruth85 (talk) 02:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Typo 

message: I like clean and neat black and white at right. The orotone (gold tint) is scruffy and, like the other alternative, lacks detail:
The other alternative is also included as the one below, left. Votes from editors, please? This is an aesthetic question, not one we can solve by appear to WP:RS or WP:V or even WP:NPOV. SBHarris 18:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason why we can't have the other two at other places in the article.  The current one (i.e. top right) is fine for the infobox Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 06:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I do recall something in the MoS saying that if possible, the image;s subject should be facing the text, which is why I added the second one to the left. Connormah (talk | contribs) 01:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which presidental photo? 

message: Search word: Roosvelt. There is one instance under Popular Culture. Please add the correct vowel. Thank you.
24.6.117.160 (talk) 06:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: and thanks! Avicennasis @ 06:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 24.6.117.160, 3 May 2010 

message: In the  template in the External links section, several of the projects ought to be disabled as they do not return useful results. Please disable Wiktionary, Wikibooks and Wikiversity by adding |wikt=no|b=no|v=no to the template. Also, I note several constructive comments and suggestions on this talkpage from non-autoconfirmed editors; perhaps it is time the protection were reviewed. 86.41.61.203 (talk) 00:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:06, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

text: also ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks heaps GB fan. 86.41.61.203 (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your welcome, I have also requested unprotection of the page per your suggestion.  We will see what happens.  ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's great, thanks! 86.41.61.203 (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another edit request 

message: In the opening paragraph, the link to Progressive Party (United States, 1912) is rather odd; as it is part of the name, it would be best to incorporate "Progressive" into the link, like so: Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party of 1912. 86.41.61.203 (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: also ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks heaps GB fan. 86.41.61.203 (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your welcome, I have also requested unprotection of the page per your suggestion.  We will see what happens.  ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's great, thanks! 86.41.61.203 (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: And another

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thread_title:  Linkfarm removed