Talk:National Museum of Folk Architecture and Folkways of Ukraine

message: *...that a recent fire in the open air Museum of Folk Architecture and Life of Ukraine (traditional Ukranian church pictured) was caused by an arson, set to cover up the theft of a valuable collection of the eighteenth-century cassones exhibited in the burned building? 
Good work.  Submitting to DYK? —Michael Z. 2006-09-29 15:38 Z
:Submitted. And thanks for copyedit! --Irpen 16:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK

message: Firstly, the Ukrainian diaspora in Australia (to the best of my knowledge) have never used pierogi to describe the Ukrainian version of dumplings — they are varenyky. I think that this would be the majority case in Ukraine as well. Any baked pie type pastries have always been pyrohy. I grant that regional dialectical variations exist, including those which have influenced the use of the word pierogi in America/Canada.
The English article on Polish "pierogi" has unfortunately created a lot of confusion in terms of the interwiki links. Although the above page points to the Russian page Пирог, the Russian page prefers to point to the Polish page on Pieróg which is the real Ukrainian or Russian pyrih. Unfortunately, most of the other page on the other countries' pages similarly reinforce this confusion, as they have mostly copied the text from the English page and are all talking about the Polish pierogi (dumplings).
However, the article on pierogi does correctly link to to Ukrainian varenyky in its interwiki column on the left — despite there being a separate page on the English page on varenyky! No wonder people are confused!
Take a look at both the Russian wiki page on вареники and the Ukrainian page on вареники and you will see that they look the same as the Polish 'pierogi'. Alternatively, see the Russian page on пирог to see that it is linked to the English pie.
What also confuses things is the the cyrillic letter Г is pronounced and transliterated as H into English if it relates to a Ukrainian word, and pronounced and transliterated as G into English if it is from a Russian word.
To try to help sort out the confusion, I submit the following — there are 3 separate items that should not be confused with each other:
# Pyrih ( — singular) — the closest English equivalent is pie or pasty. Just as there are thousands of different pies, the same is true for pyrihy (plural) — they can be sweet (eg. with cheese, apple, plums) or savoury (with meat, mixed vegetables etc.) Importantly, they are made from pastry (with yeast) that is baked. Just as with pies, they can be of any size. Flat or open versions could be seen as being equivalent to a tart or 'squares'.
# Pyrizhok ( — singular) — what distinguishes pyrizhky (plural) is that they are a 'finger-food' version of a small pyrih. Again, they are baked pastry (usually with yeast, though they can also be either deep-fried or pan-fried, especially if they are with un-yeasted dough) and can have a variety of fillings: meat, potatoes, cabbage etc. The closest English equivalent (but not exact equivalent) would be a pasty, though pyrizhky are not always pinched together along the edges and are always small enough to be eaten with only one hand.
# Varenyky —  ( — plural) — these are totally different to the other two! They are dumplings — un-yeasted dough that is boiled. Again they can have any sort of filling, including sweet (eg. cheese cherries), or savoury (sour cabbage, meat with vermicelli noodles etc.).
--Pkravchenko (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pyrih]] = Pie (not dumplings or 'pierogi') 

message: ... scrap the word "toponym" - no one outside Wikipeda ever uses it, it's really nothing more than an affectation. Use "place name" or "village name" instead. Please. Maelli (talk) 17:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a suggestion ..... 

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