Talk:Klingon language/Archive 2

message: I just made this.   or 
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Now you can put it on your wiki page if you can speak Klingon
DyslexicEditor 03:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like that blood-red color, but shouldn't the Babelbox include other levels than "native", such as "This user speaks Klingon like a recently captured desperate subordinate slave" etc... 惑乱 分からん 14:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

text: This has been fixed. The Klingon now translates to "This user speaks Klingon." --Runner5k 21:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox for Klingon language here 

message: I dought this section is very valuble. We might as well add a whole section for all the words about fighting and all the words for different weapons. I suggest instead, that this section be removed and a less subject-specific one dealing with the lexical-cultural correlation in the language be added. -Alpha Omicron 22:31, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cursing Section 

message: :Michael Okuda, the long standing Star Trek scenic arts designer, and other Paramount staff have repudiated the mapping.
Why? What's the source for this? Anton Mravcek 23:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In HolQeD, the journal of the KLI, Okuda has been quoted as saying that the Klingon mapping he uses on the TV shows bears absolutely no relation to any language, real or constructed; he just puts together strings of characters that happen to look good. thefamouseccles 00:57, 18 Apr 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's a much better approach for a conlang... =S 惑乱 分からん 11:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really? Source for this? 

message: Has there been any theories on why the letters look the way they do? I can't see any other way of writing them fast and simple enough, than with rough paintbrush strokes. Has there been any shorthand writing proposed? Also, personally, I think they seem quite hard to interpret, with many characters differing only in slant or different small curves around the corners. My two cents.  惑乱 分からん 11:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or, I didn't mean shorthand, but what I meant was more like a simpler type of handwriting that could be written with a pen or pencil. 惑乱 分からん 16:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try reading Hebrew one of these days; if you don't have a really good-quality font, the difference between bet and kaf, and gimel and nun, can be hard to spot. :) As to the other, despite the fact that pIqaD is rarely used even by those who speak Klingon regularly, most people who reach a certain level in Klingon scholarship eventually work out a handwriting system for it (because it's a bitch to draw the accurate pIqaD characters). I'm happy to email you an image of my own Klingon writing hand if you like, and I should have a couple of charts lying around demonstrating the handwriting of a couple of other Klingon speakers I know. Thefamouseccles 12:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://klingonska.org/piqadpic.html contains some pictures on possible pIqad longhand interpretations (note that none of these can be considered "canon" in any way and individual variation among people using the alphabet is even greater than longhand basd on the latin alphabet). /Zrajm 16:14, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright! Thanks for the info! 惑乱 分からん 23:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance 

message: My text: "; for instance, although not all form valid Klingon words, the string of characters representing batlh has two hundred eighty nine other possible readings. " has been removed, apparently because that is not the number of possible readings. How is this?--216.95.136.111 23:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Only possible readings (not neccessarily existing Klingon words) would be important and counted. A native speaker wouldn't normally even recognize that this word could also be read "gnlfrz" (just making this up right now; I already threw my sheet away), in the same way that a native speaker of English or German wouldn't read "Hello" as "H-E-I-I-zero". Of course, in some fonts, "Olga" might look like "zero-i-g-a" (bad example), but no one would ever read it that way. Thus it makes no sense counting impossible words in. I calculated and found out that only 18 (I think it was) possible readings were possible. That's far less; in addition, there are 3 possible ways of writing "tlh", of which only one can be used to form a possible word. Anyways, I don't think such a calculation is relevant for the article, as the picture and the explanation for the skybox reading already states it's nature. I also wondered why you spelled 289 out, but that was of course not a reason. — N-true 00:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I understand your reasoning now, thank you. I was trying to solidify the fact that Skybox pIqaD is unusable, and I don't think that really comes across in the existing text. And I spelled out 289 because I wasn't sure about the policy for large numbers and thought it looked spiffy. :) Also, we should clean out this discussion page, some of the topics here are no longer relevant even for historical purposes... --216.95.136.233 00:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skybox redaings 

message: I know that learning any language is good, but I'm not a 'trekkie' so I have a question: Is there any particularily good reason to learn this language?Cameron Nedland 14:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than to have fun with, to converse with other "speakers" in Klingon, to understand what the Klingons say in Star Trek, to read some prose in Klingon, to get to know a language that is quite different from the average Indo-European ones, to attent the qepHom and other Klingon meet-ups... I guess not. ;) Indeed any natural language, even the dead ones, would might more useful than Klingon. But sometimes humans do things just for fun. :> — N-true 15:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You've given me enuf reasons, i'll add it on my 'to do' list.Cameron Nedland 16:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I guess that list is sufficently large, by now? ;) 惑乱 分からん 12:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, very large, but I will get around to it.Cameron Nedland 14:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curious