Talk:Taxi Driver

message: The article itself says "The film was theatrically released by Columbia Pictures on February 7, 1976"; but the article's sidebar says February 9. Which is correct? Josh (talk) 19:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: When was its release date?

message: Critcally noted as scorcese's trifecta with raging bull and goodfellas, oscars, IMDB 250. Andman8 04:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well it's like this: if you're going to link to one person's review on the web, you might as well link to them all. What makes that one special? Are they a well-known film critic? -- Tarquin 10:07, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: It's no sex education film I've seen, but yes, you are correct. The IMDB entry on Kärlekens språk, the Swedish "information film" that's Bickle takes her to, mentions it shows actual coitus, something I don't think like that is shown in high schools, even nowadays. However, I could see it being one of those things, because of the display of sexual intercourse, would be shown in a porno theatre in the '70s. Of course, it could've been the only thing Scorsese could get ahold of and figured he could pass it off as a porn flick. --YoungFreud 04:50, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The film was called an "Information Film", but that was always code for Swedish skin flicks.  There aren't many orgies in sex ed, for example.  You have to remember that this was the early 1970's and even in Times Square things were somewhat repressed so they had to have silly double speak in order to get things by standards codes. --TheGrza 07:25, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
It comes under the sexploitation category, a film which claims it is educational, but is really a skin-flick. Until pornography laws in the UK were loosened in the early 2000s and high street newsagents were allowed to sell hard-core pornography, this 'rebranding' was often used as a way of getting porn into the country. Martyn Smith 17:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: High

message: Foster's age was just changed from fourteen to twelve.  If she was born on 19 November 1962, that would make her thirteen for most of 1975. —Morning star 15:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If Jodie 's birthday is 19 November 1962 she turned 13 on November 19 1975 and she was 12 during almost the year 1975. The film was released in February 1976 so Jodie was 12 when it was filmed and just 13 when the movie was released to theaters. Ik.pas.aan 22:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah!  Duuh.  Sorry for one of my dimmer moments. —Morning star 05:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jodie Foster's age

message: I remember reading something about De Niro and Scorsese working on a sequel a year ago I think. If I remember right, then someone should add that to the article.
:The sequel section's final sentence is a misrepresentation of its cited source. I'm going to delete it or re-word it unless someone objects.Chickendijon (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sequel?

message: The Trivia section is much too long, and much of it is probably pointless.  If I don't pull a bunch of it out soon, someone else should.  --Xyzzyplugh 23:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed a few of the entries that were cut and pasted from imdb, but it's still too long. I thought about starting a production or background section and moving the relevant pieces from there, but the problem is that they aren't sourced, and in some cases seem contradictory (the inspiration for the character of Travis Bickle). If someone wants to verify the information, great, otherwise it should just be removed. - Bobet 09:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia section

message: I remember julia phillips (who did have a drug problem) saying in her autobiography that this was a 'Coke movie' referring to the drug (cocaine) consumed every day by participants in the movie.  Somebody could check this and then mention it in the article.
:No they shouldn't, it's not notable in any way.Vonbontee (talk) 10:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Of course it's notable; do it. 173.210.125.42 (talk) 17:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I fail to see why it's notable at all. If drug use had any real impact on the film - like, if an actor was too coked-out to perform on a particular shooting day, or if Scorsese claims that such-and-such a scene or a directorial choice was conceived during a cocaine fantasy - then obviously it's relevent. Otherwise, I don't think so. (But if anyone still feels the need to add it, I'll just shake my damn head and leave it there and not try to delete it. Unless I should happen across the article again someday when I'm bored.)Vonbontee (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Coke' movie

message: The ending is Robert de Niro successfully impressing a girl by getting famous then deciding he doesn't like the girl for liking him for being famous.
No it isn't.  He just still feels detached from her and everything else; as well as holding resentment for her for rejecting him in the past.--Tainted Drifter 10:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The ending

message: I have made the correction to the credits box per the IMDB listing.JohnC 14:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thelma Schoonmaker did not edit Taxi Driver

message: someone should mention that the story is influenced by dostoevsky's notes from underground (ie. it quotes it directly "I am God's lonely man").
:The quote is from Thomas Wolfe's essay, "God's Lonely Man", which is quoted and accredited to Wolfe at the beginning of the film.  That's not to say that Dostoevsky's work wasn't an influence, but the quote is from Wolfe. PCLM (talk) 02:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes from Underground

message: I dislike the new "Alternative analysis" section because any analysis violates Wikipedia:NPOV and there are several errors in that section. --Wasted Sapience 12:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it's original research, and tangential. Makes the article too long. Delete?  --Nick 19:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternative analysis

message: by the way i think this is a pretty good article and i want to congradulate the writer(s). i know not every one on wikipedia likes the trivia sections in articles but for a film like taxi driver which has made a huge imprint on popular culture, e.g. it was referenced on the simpsons, family guy e.ct. and every one konws the "you talkin to me" quote  i think it should have its own popular culture section, just a suggestion. :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wannabe Wiki (talk • contribs) 03:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: hi there

message: Why am I redirected here for Charles Palantine? --Arav the Undersith (talk) 09:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A search for the string “Charles Palantine” within the article would answer your question.  Googling for “Charles Palantine” would alos answer your question. —SlamDiego←T 17:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redrect

message: I removed a claim that the movie inspired John Hinckley Jr. to try to assassinate George Wallace.  First, John Hickley Jr. tried to assassinate Reagan, not Wallace.  Second, Wallace's would-be assassin was Arthur Bremer.  Third, a movie that came out in 1976 could hardly inspire an assassin who struck in 1972.  Whoever submitted that information, good job.  Phanatic (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I am somewhat inclined to fact-tag this assertion
:Any lingering doubt in the viewer's mind about Bickle's insanity is obliterated when he is suddenly and shockingly shown to be sporting a crude Mohawk haircut at a public rally in which he actually attempts to assassinate Senator Palantine.
for the simple, saddening reason that all three of my dorm roommates one term were convinced, at the end of the movie, that this character was a hero of profound inner wisdom. —SlamDiego←T 16:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything he does in the movie, even just up to that point, and he's crazy because he got a Mohawk?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.5.146 (talk) 04:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The viewer's mind?

message: My interpretation of the scenes involving Senator Palantine was that Travis was genuinely inspired by the Senator and wanted to protect him. While Travis is watching the Senator on the TV, the Senator says that "the people should rise up" and do something about helping to clean up the city. This contributes to Travis' decision to become a vigilante. 
In the scenes where Travis attends Palantine's rallies, Travis sees himself as a protector to the Senator, helping to keep him safe from the "scum" of the city and he sees himself as similar to the secret service agents. This is why he tells his parents and Iris that he has secret goverment work to do, and he seems to believe it himself. When he reaches his hand into his jacket he is only getting ready to protect the senator as he passes through the danger of the crowd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.220.162 (talk) 02:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We would need a reliable source for any interpretation we find here.  We can't, no matter how amazing, insightful or well thought out, provide original research ourselves. (John User:Jwy talk) 04:37, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

text: My friend, you have totally misunderstood the scene. --98.217.14.211 (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Assassination attempt or protection?

message: I recall hearing an interview with the screenwriter Paul_Schrader on the BBC in 2007 or 2008 (possibly to Mark_Kermode) in which he asserted, in a fairly unambiguous manner, that he intended the lead characters in Taxi Driver and those other films to be the same character.  Of course, now I am having trouble locating that clip.  Has anyone else heard this?  There are suggestions that Schrader intended the characters to be similar, for example on the page for Light_Sleeper, but no assertion that the characters were identical.  At any rate, there is no statement connecting Taxi Driver to the other three films, while there are statements about some sort of relationship to this movie on the pages for the other three.  Any reason not to mention whatever verifiable relationship exists between the films here? KASchmidt (talk) 17:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, after you find a verifiable relationship, let's discuss it. Dlabtot (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, this is a reference cited on the Light_Sleeper page:  .  In it, the interviewer refers to Taxi Driver, American Gigolo, and Light Sleeper collectively as Schrader's "man in a room" films, and Schrader discusses the central character of those movies as though he's one character. 
KASchmidt (talk) 17:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

text:  And here:  is the (audio) interview between Kermode and Schrader I mentioned above.  I'll hold off until someone else has listened to it so we can see if we agree that it means what I think it means, and where it would belong in this article if that's the case. KASchmidt (talk) 17:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, it seems worth mentioning to me.  Go for it. Dlabtot (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure that it logically fits with any of the sections already in the article, so I'm tentatively making it its own section.  If anybody wants to try to fit it in somewhere else after it's up, I'm okay with that. KASchmidt (talk) 17:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

text:  Okay, it's in.  It is however extremely short.  I don't know if beefing it up or putting it in a different subheading is the way to go, but I'd be happy with either. KASchmidt (talk) 18:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship to American Gigolo/Light Sleeper/The Walker

message: I have not read of Ms Foster being 'subjected to psychological tests' during the making of the Movie. People were appointed to study the scenes she was to appear in and adjudge with Mr Scorsese if they were appropriate for her well being. Ms Fosters sister stood in in some of the scenes where concerns about their appropriateness for a child as young as Ms Foster were raised.Johnwrd (talk) 14:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversies.

message: really, for a plot about a movie, occasionally there is a footnote referencing the movie? this is just silly, folks. --98.217.14.211 (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: citations

message: It says in the wikipedia article for the Lindsay Anderson movie if.... that "Martin Scorsese revealed that Robert De Niro's character in Taxi Driver, Travis Bickle, was named after McDowell's character in if....."
Couldn't this be added in the Production section?
I haven't been able to find citation for this though. Any help would be appreciated  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.153.176 (talk) 01:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: If.... 

message: Yes please.  There is nothing in the Travis article that isn't in-universe and perfectly appropriate to put right here.  Millahnna (mouse)talk 17:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to oppose as well.  As far as single-film characters go, this is a notable example.  Both the film article and the character article have not received very full treatment, and I believe that with the significance of the film, Travis Bickle would be appropriate as a sub-article focusing mainly on the character. Erik (talk) 14:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: If we were talking about vandalism, gibberish or an off-topic rant, it might be appropriate to remove. But it is a case of somebody talking about something in the film and a plot point about which there has been discussion. Why not simply move the material to the appropriate section 'Travis a marine?'? No editor has the right to unilaterally decide which talk page comments are relevant. Please simply restore the material rather than force some tedious wiki-process. WP:TALK covers this in detail. Dlabtot (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully disagree.  What we are talking about is a person who watched the movie and then decided to add his opinion.  Now, as we both know, this is not acceptable in the article.  If someone were to change the article and then say, "I saw it in the movie," he would be informed that this is original research and not acceptable.  And, you are wrong again with your comment about editors unilaterally deciding which talk page comments are relevant.  We have to make such decisions, because people are constantly using the talk page as a forum for their opinions, just as in this case.  Now, if he had posted a message saying something like "According to this critic, Travis was in the Special Forces," that would be a different story. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 03:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The removed comment was not as far off as much of the discussion here and deserved a reply (like what you just provided) - especially if you look at Diabot's contributions so far.  Just my opinion.  It might stimulate an interested editor to look for your hypothetical critic. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 03:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

text:  Have you actually reviewed WP:TALK since this started? It seems not. You are falsely applying the standards for an article to a talk page. Plus, your understanding of  our sourcing rules seems to be a bit deficient. The film is perfectly acceptable as a source in an article about itself for plot points and the like.  Yes, the talk page is a forum for people's opinions about how to improve the article. With all due respect, I suggest you follow the talk page guidelines and refrain from deleting the comments of others unless they are "gibberish, rants about the article subject (as opposed to its treatment in the article) (or) test edits" Dlabtot (talk) 03:27, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of talk page comments

message: It was incorrectly stated in the article that it was in Alphabet City. The address, based on the envelope Travis wrote to Iris, is 240 East 13th street, which is between 2nd and 3rd Avenues. Alphabet City begins east of 1st Avenue. The external shot of the building shows "226", street unknown. Halda (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Location of Iris's tenement

message: As of right now, the film has been re-released on a small scale to theatres in celebration of its 35th anniversary. However, I am unsure where in the article to put this. Karrmann (talk) 20:10, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-release 

message: Please contribute to the discussion here.  The image was originally uploaded for this article but recently removed, and did not have a non-free use rationale.  postdlf (talk) 14:43, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver image listed at Files For Deletion 

message: The article isn't mentioning the possibility that Travis might be dead or are still in a coma at the end, and the last part is a dream. This is open to speculation, and while I like to think he is alive, I have read interpretations suggesting he is dead or near dead in the end, and the last fare we see is just a dream. I've watched the film twice and I think this is very possible. Because we can't know if it's a dream or not, both possibilities should be mentioned in the plot section, now it just assumes he has recovered and actually drives taxi again. Urbanus Secundus (talk) 01:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending: Travis dreaming? 

message: A Norwegian commentator wrote today in a national newspaper that this movie might be the one that comes closest (går tettest innpå) to the 7/22 massacre at Utøya.
However, part of the plot was represented like this, "On his spare time, he isolates himself, eats pills, conducts weapon training and plans the aksjonen."
Maybe our article should say that his physical training commences with him kicking his pill habit by emptying his pill container into the toilet. --Sywoofer (talk) 10:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kicking his pill habit 

message: Footnote 36 leads to a dead link. This seems like a fairly controversial statement considering the classic status that this film holds. Can we get another (and more reliable) source on this? If not, the entire text referenced by footnote 36 should be reconsidered.  --SodiumWage (talk) 23:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel footnote issue 

message: I suggest that You talkin' to me? be merged into this article.  I do not doubt the phrase's notability, but that article says nothing that cannot be said here.  It is a very short article, and could be tightened up a little more, so there is no danger of overloading this article.  If it is merged, I think we will also have a better opportunity to keep out all the speculation about the line's origins, and trivial nonsense about its influence. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 17:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I was hoping to get some feedback on an edit I made to the article. A few weeks ago, I added this under the section about the famous quote: 
Although the image of a person uttering "You talkin' to me?" while facing a mirror may be best known from Taxi Driver, the earliest known instance in popular media came in an episode of The Twilight Zone. In the episode Nervous Man in a Four Dollar Room (first aired on October 14, 1960), Jackie Rhoades (played by Joe Mantell) speaks these words to his reflection: "You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Oh yeah. Yeah, sure you are. Now me and the mirror we're havin' a talk. I've had it huh? All my marbles are gone. This is how it happens."  
It was removed. I certainly understand the motivations of the editor who removed it, and believe that he acted in good faith. Therefore, I figured I'd get some feedback. What do you all think?
Riffraff913 (talk) 15:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an interesting parallel, but I don't see any evidence that the one was based on the other.  Without that, this is just speculation.  Interesting speculation at that, but still speculation. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 15:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  You talkin' to me? 

message: I apologize in advance if this is not the correct forum to ask this question.
Today is the first day I have watched this movie.
I was surprised and intrigued to see the Jodie Foster character spoon sugar on her toast & jam in the breakfast scene with Travis, having previously noticed this meme in the breakfast scene of The Falcon and the Snowman, when the Falcon (Timothy Hutton) spoons sugar onto the jam on his toast, when breakfasting with the Snowman (Sean Penn).
I think The Falcon and the Snowman came out about a whole decade later than Taxi Driver.  I don't really know anything about this meme, but it seems to me a metaphor for wanting some more satisfaction in life, as if the sweet jam is not enough to satisfy the character, and more sweetness is needed for the character to feel satisfied.
Would anyone care to comment?
Alpine Joy (talk) 04:31, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The origin of the bread–jam–sugar breakfast is given in the 1999 documentary Making Taxi Driver. Pololei (talk) 19:45, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sugar with Jam in Iris / Travis Breakfast scene 

message: That Language of Love would be the movie Travis takes Betsy to see is a misconception. A very common misconception, and one that can be found in decent sources beucase they've had no reason to question it, but nevertheless untrue. Elisabet Björklund at the University of Lund discusses this in her 2011 article "‘This is a dirty movie’ – Taxi Driver and ‘Swedish sin’" in Journal of Scandinavian Cinema 1 (2) pp. 163–176. The scenes are from the American sexplotation film Sexual Freedom in Demark, with added Swedish sound. /Julle (talk) 11:01, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. The abstract here mentions a misconception but doesn't say what it is. I can't find any free versions of the article online, though.Sjö (talk) 11:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not open access, unfortunately. But yes, this is the misconception in question. /Julle (talk) 12:27, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language of Love 

message: The ending section of the plot sounds like it may be missing something. It first goes in to detail about what sounds to be murder by Travis of at least two individuals (possibly killing the mobster was in self defence although considering he invaded the place, I'm not so sure, but in any case the description of killing Sport and the bouncer definitely sounds like murder or at least manslaughter). Of course the only witnesses are Travis and Iris, and it's possible Iris was so traumitised or grateful that she wouldn't tell what really happened. And the victims being fairly dodgy themselves may not have had much sympathy from the police. There's also the apparent attempted assassination of a senator, but perhaps the Secret Service agents didn't get a good enough look at him that they could identify him. So it's not hard to see how the movie allowed Travis to get away with it, but there should be some minimal explanation. If the movie had no explanation, this should be mentioned too. Nil Einne (talk) 15:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot / ending 

message: I have restored the version of the lede from the middle of last month, before the recent changes.  The recent edits, especially the unexplained changes to the genre, need to be explained here.  All of the genres were sourced, so they should not be changed without discussion. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:37, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Likewise with the plot tag for OR. I don't see anything obvious to flag this. Maybe the IP editor would care to expand on it... Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:42, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to lede 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: When we found the Taxi Driver article it was long and had a lot of detail and information. However, we saw signs for little edits such as fixing bits of the references, tidying up and breaking down the lengthy production and synopsis paragraphs with very slight and subtle changes. Additional writing on the brief description of the film specifically highlights the classification as the film as a Psychological Drama. There previously was no mention about the director, Martin Scorsese's, influences by drawing a slight comparison between Taxi Driver and The Searchers (1956 film), with evidence of Scorsese stating so himself. 
We also adapted the controversies section, breaking it down slightly into briefer sections and added a little bit more of the referenced information.
Sections modified:
-External links
-Controversies
-'You talkin' to me'
-Production
-Synopsis  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxterito (talk • contribs) 13:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen Mary University of London Student's Changes Proposal 

message: removed the first interpretation as it was by an unknown professor with an unknown degree and the publication of the quote given was unknown in the reference  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dondoolee (talk • contribs) 23:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes and interpretations 

message: "The climactic shoot-out was considered intensely graphic by a few critics, considering an X-rating for the film" That just doesn't read right. I can't see the source material but this should probably be reworded. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  clunky sentence 

message: Before I recalled them being 'psychological drama', although some people really wanted to add 'thriller', which has been referenced in a roughly 70-page book by film critic Amy Taubin, but she also mentioned 'psychodrama'. Additionally, her mention of 'neo-noir' is not supported by the Allmovie and AFI references (& her allusion to 'horror' is very likely not supported by most sources per WP:FILMLEAD). 
The Les Keyser source lacks inline citations, & its publisher, Twayne, as well as Les Keyser himself both lack their own Wiki pages. Either way, only 2 or at most 3 genres are meant to be allowed, so this needs a trimming. Donkey Hot-day (talk) 18:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is happening to the genres? 

message: By Wikipedia standards there should be some genre in there, whether that be thriller, drama, or drama thriller  AlienChex (talk) 02:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it is not required for a genre to appear in the opening sentence of every film (due to exceptions). Per WP:FILMGENRE, "genre classifications should comply with WP:WEIGHT", which means it should be decisive and accurate. Even your initial comment wasn't able to pick a single genre, and what stops this film was being a psychological thriller, drama, or combination of these genres? Furthermore, multiple film articles also don't have genres (see Fight Club and The Lighthouse) due to consensus that it wouldn't be fair to describe them under simply a few genres per WP:WEIGHT. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 12:32, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

text: IMDb is not a reliable source, per WP:IMDB. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 13:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments from AlienChex

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Taxi Driver (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 23:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Is someone planning to add a section about the cancelled Taxi Driver game which was also supposed to be a sequel released in 2006?
Wiseguys1990 (talk) 21:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cancelled Game