Talk:BackupHDDVD

message: As it stands right now there is no reason for this program to be in Wikipedia.  If and when the program is proven to be functional and gains the notoriety that DeCSS did, it should be included.  Until then (if it ever happens), I vote for deletion. Peter Nelson 02:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noteworthy? 

message: By itself the program, which consists largely of an implementation of Java-based sample code made freely available by the entity which oversees AACS licensing[1], 
The Java source code probably doesn't origin from any AACS licensing party. Nor there is any link proving any freely accessible Java-code sample from any AACS licensing party...
It's a simple AES decoder implementation, which has surely been written by the 'muslix64' entity itself... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.19.105.165 (talk) 14:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the source code 

message: Currently, the page has links to directly download the application (with mirrors) too, anyone else feel this is a bit much? --82.15.233.238 22:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Downloads 

message: I can't find any of Muslix64 where he claims he got the keys from PowerDVD...--84.160.95.57 21:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PowerDVD 

message: someone should mention that other variant too, especially because it makes a statement in the Reactions section obsolete. Torzsmokus 01:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BackupBluRay 

message: The criteria, with my comments:
1. It is well written. In this respect:
::(a) the prose is comprehensible, the grammar is correct, and the structure is clear at first reading.
::::Yep.  Very clear.
::(b) the structure is logical, introducing the topic and then grouping together its coverage of related aspects; where appropriate, it contains a succinct lead section summarising the topic, and the remaining text is organised into a system of hierarchical sections (particularly for longer articles);
::::Yes.
::(c) It does not seriously violate the standards in Wikipedia Manual of style. (In particular, sections to go by include the Article lead guideline, Article layout guideline, Jargon guideline, Words to avoid using guideline, How to write about Fiction guideline, and List incorporation)
::::Yes
::(d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided.
::::Yes.  Plenty of linking, and adequate explanation as well.
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:
::(a) it provides references to any and all sources used for its material; 
::::Yes.  Extremely well referenced.
::(b) the citation of its sources is essential, and while the use of inline citations is not mandatory, it is highly desirable, in particular for longer articles. Unambiguous citations of reliable sources are necessary for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged.Unambiguous citation is best done through footnotes or Harvard references located at the end of a sentence or paragraph (read more about it in the essay Wikipedia:Inline citations). Short articles, one page or shorter, can be unambiguously referenced without inline citations. Articles or sections that contain general statements, mathematical equations, logical deductives, "common knowledge", or other material that does not contain disputable statements needn't be referenced.  Articles whose topics fall under the guideline on scientific citations should adhere to the guideline. 
::::Inline citations more than adequate.
::(c) sources should be selected in accordance with the guidelines for reliable sources;
::::Uses some forum posts and other sources that may not be reliable, but in this context (especially as primary sources) I think that's acceptable.
::(d) it contains no elements of original research.
::::Looks good.
3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect :
::(a) it addresses all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed);
::::Only comment is that I'm sure I saw a suggestion somewhere that it was WinDVD not PowerDVD that was used to extract keys.  Not a huge issue, though.
::(b) it stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary details (no non-notable trivia).
::::Yes.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:
::(a) viewpoints are represented fairly and without bias;
::::Yes
::(b) all significant points of view are fairly presented, but not asserted, particularly where there are or have been conflicting views on the topic.
::::Yes
5. It is stable, i.e. it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism, or proposals to split/merge the article content.
::::Yes
6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. In this respect:
::(a) the images are tagged and have succinct and descriptive captions;
::::Yes
::(b) a lack of images does not in itself prevent an article from achieving Good Article status.
::::N/A
::(c) any non-free images have a fair use rationale.
::::N/A
Well done.  That looks like a pass to me. JulesH 20:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: What evidence suggests that this program has been released into the public domain? --Iamunknown 02:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No license doesn't mean public domain.  Technically, the author retains copyright and could sue infringers for damages if he tries to sell it.  I deleted reference to "public domain." ←BenB4 05:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The infobox still says it's public domain.  I'll delete that when/if I finish my hunt for a copy of this (when I can look at the source code files). --Gronky (talk) 13:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted it now and clarified the lack of a licence in the intro. --Gronky (talk) 13:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public domain... 

message: Moved from Article:
:Thou one of they keys is widely available on the internet, including such reputable sites as NY Times, Digg and Wikipedia; furthermore may television and radio stations have broadcasted the key at some point.
The part of the article where this was added relates to Volume and Title keys, and has nothing to do with the AACS encryption key controversy (which is already documented elsewhere in the article). Noclip 00:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's a part of the sentence that speaks about author not providing keys. I think it's not proper to keep silent about the key being available WIDELY, as it is. Kirils 07:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Again, that sentence is talking about completely different keys. The "Digg key" is mentioned at the end of the history section. Noclip 12:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed info 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recently, a copy of this program was added to the Internet Archive. I feel like we should link to that page, not sure though. 69.67.89.46 (talk) 15:13, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a link for download?