Talk:Christian Democracy (Italy)

message: Here is the list of P2 members (I selected a non-italian site just for better "objectivity"):
http://www.amnistia.net/news/gelli/lesnoms.htm
Mrs. Tina Anselmi, president of parliamentar inquiry commission on P2 was from DC.
Let's keep propaganda out of facts, please.
Presuming that enough informations are easily available on the web for a better idea of what P2 was and represented, and having seen no re-correction to the article in a reasonable time, I have to conclude that DC was effectively "tarnished from 1981 onward" (while I was ingenuously convinced that, apart from premier Forlani resigning due to a late divulgation of these lists, and ordinary political propaganda by leftists, nothing more of notable had disturbed this party about P2, to the point that Tina Anselmi, a DC, was named to judge it with the agreement of PCI).
Funny: DC "was" tarnished because P2 was projecting a golpe when the same DC was running Italy... (of course it was involved).
However, I'm not going now to censor the official version; who am I to do it?
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Don't you think the Post WW2 period was important in the uprising of the Christian Democratic Party in Italy. Shouldn't that type of information be included? I am working on it right now. Bakjaewon (talk) 22:50, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian Democracy (Italy, historical)

message: Should it be mentioned that the DC site, the P2 site and Il Gesù Jesuit church are all located in the same Piazza del Gesù? --Error 02:06, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Piazza del Gesù

message: According to an old book I have (from 1992) the DC had been continously in government from 1945 to that point in time. But what is the end point of this continuous time in government? Were they part of the government all the time up to the formation of the first Berlusconi-government??--Oddeivind (talk) 10:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 1994. --Checco (talk) 15:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DC in government from 1945 to ??

message: In reference 17 where there should be a link to the letters Moro wrote critically of Andreotti is a link to a business hosting website Yepa. Perhaps we can find a link to a source of actual script of these letters. ThisisnotDavid1154 (talk) 20:20, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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message: Greetings, all. Allow me to dispute statements presented as fact in the article.
Christian Democracy or Democrazia Cristiana (DC) was never a centrist party. The source invoked (Derbyshire, Derbyshire Political Systems Of The World, 1989) has the party as "Christian centrist" in the sense that it was not a hard-line religious, Christian party. DC was above all else a conservative and anti-communist party (Newell The Politics of Italy: Governance in a Normal Country, 2010). Also, not a "catch-all" party per se but a party that employed "a catch-all" strategy that was supposed to "reach beyond the ranks of the Catholic faithful and allow it to successfully act as the [country's] main bulwark against communism" (Newell, ibid). Giuseppe Dossetti, co-founder of the party, was clear since the beginning that this would be un movimento conservatore ("a conservative movement"). The CIA in its reports was typically referring to the DC's "conservatism," even when qualifying it as "mild." We should also point out the various positions adopted by DC throughout its history on the defining issues of divorce (see Divorce in Italy), abortion (see Ergas, Yasemine "Feminism and the Italian Party System: Women's Politics in a Decade of Turmoil"), extramarital sex (Ergas ibid), gay marriage, etc. The Christian Democrats steadfastly stood alongside the Vatican in opposing any liberalisation on these issues. The proper term to denote DC, therefore, per sources, is "conservative." -The Gnome (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I respect your opinion, but I do not think it is based on sources and, above all, lacks historical perspective. Premise: we are talking about a party disbanded in 1994, thus some of its "conservative" positions were held also by some centre-left parties in the fifty years after WWI (just think of Ireland's Labour Party or, for that matter, United States' Democratic Party—even more recently Obama opposed same-sex marriage when he first ran for President). The DC was a broad-church party aiming at the "political unity of Catholics" and, as such, included right-wingers, centrists and left-wingers—no surprise that its heirs are now active in all mainstream political parties of Italy, from the right-wing Brothers of Italy to the centre-left Democratic Party (most of the latter's leaders are former Christian Democrats). This said, the DC's political position was centrist, as it was at the centre of Italian politics, with MSI and PLI at its right and PRI, PSDI, PSI and PCI at its left, but we do not really need to define its ideology as "centrist" as the party was mainly and unequivocally "Christian-democratic". --Checco (talk) 14:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  DC ideology