Talk:Chaperone (social)

message: Chaperone is the UK English version.  Is Chaperon the US version?  Snowman (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you explain "female version"? Snowman (talk) 13:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: OK, so should the name of this page be "Chaperone".  This is already used for the term in molecular biology, so would "Chaperone (supervisor)" be a better name for this page (for now)?  I guess that the primary use should be the meaning as on this page, and that the biology use should be "Chaperone (protein)". I have put this for discussion on that page. Snowman (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I think I agree, but I'd like to be clearer about US usage. Johnbod (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does the name of this page "The Chaperone (Seinfeld episode)" help to prove its US usage?  I do not know much about the US usage. Perhaps someone will explain. I think that there is a wiki page or project to help with translation. Snowman (talk) 14:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wiktionary says that "chaperon" is archaic and not used much now, so I will move the page. Snowman (talk) 16:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be inclined to merge the "clinical" page.  They are the same thing in a different context, and despite the title their utility isd social and legal, not clinical at all. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I think that it is clinical and legal, but more clinical. There are guidelines about using chaperones in clinical situations, which someone might add sometime. I see your point of view, but I see that the meanings and situations are different. I am not entirely against a merged page, but I am 55:45 in favour of different pages. Snowman (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of page 

message: This page says dueña comes from a Spanish word meaning "owner"; wiktionary says it's derived from " Vulgar Latin donna, from Latin domina (“Lady”)." I only had high school Spanish, so I'm marking it citation needed so someone who knows Spanish can verify. --76.252.221.8 (talk) 04:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  dueñas 

message: The section on the word “duenna” makes the claim that the word’s meaning has broadened to encompass “any disapproving person irrespective of gender”.
This may well be the case — but the example given doesn’t demonstrate that is. Compare these two examples:
# “There is no duenna so rigidly prudent as ... a superannuated coquette”.
# “He drew his lips together in that duenna-like way”.
The first example directly categorises the “superannuated coquette” as a “rigidly prudent” duenna.
But the second example is very different: it doesn’t use the word “duenna” to describe a disapproving person; it uses the simile “duenna-like” to describe a behaviour.
When we describe a person’s behaviour as “child-like”, we don’t mean to suggest the person is a child — which would be entirely tautological — but that they are like a child in some way. A simile is a device for comparing two different things — not conflating them.
Here, where the simile likens the conduct of a man to that of a duenna. it is meaningful because the man is not a duenna, but is like one. Foxmilder (talk) 08:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Irrespective of gender” example is flawed 

message: The article still makes the unreffed claim that 'chaperon' is a 'frequent' spelling in Britain. I'm a 69 year old Brit and I have never, ever encountered that usage. Either we need a very strong ref or the claim needs to go. Ef80 (talk) 09:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidence? The Banner talk 15:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK spelling revisited