Talk:K League 1

message: I commented the claim for the oldest professional league, since the Saudi Premier League started in 1975. I was wondering about the term "professional"; maybe the Saudi Premier League was not professional? Any reference?--Panairjdde 15:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Many people would not think of Saudi Arabia being part of Asia; I suspect that is the reason for the error. -- Visviva 15:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am the mediator for the case. I hope to focus all discussion regarding the articles involved on this page. Please present the evidence, claims for and against the changes in the following sections. -- Evanx(tag?) 19:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediation process 

message: I agree with the claims presented, especially regarding the POV statements which are highly unencyclopedic, not to mention against WP:NPOV policy.
However, at the same time, I understand the anguish of the fans affected. It is imperative that these emotions are not to be reflected by Wikipedia, although they can be mentioned.
===Suggested Solution===
Please review the following pages: Manchester United, Liverpool FC and Everton FC. Ever since Manchester United has been delisted from the public exchange, there has been a significant number of fans that were unhappy with the decision. However, the article accurately depicts the situation objectively. Although a new "Manchester United" was formed, the current Manchester United article is the main reference.
Liverpool and Everton have a shared and contentious history due to disputes and a breakaway. Their respective pages hold that piece of rivalry without voiding the NPOV.
This is the standard that the articles have to held up to.
Replace all POV comments. This applies to all articles in question. Words such as "immoral" and "betrayal" have to be replaced. Suggestions include "arguably unethical" and "many fans were dismayed by the seemingly unprofessional decision". If there is a need, I will assist with this process.
Merge related articles. I believe that the pages do not warrant 4 separate articles since they share a history and the move is essentially a renaming of the club. The main articles should be FC Seoul and Jeju United FC. Anyang Cheetahs FC and Bucheon FC should be redirected respectively. The redirection should only take place after the removal of POV comments. This is in recognition of the possibility that these fans would be successful in forming breakaway clubs as with the case mentioned above. It must be noted that the history of the FC Seoul and Jeju United FC recognise their previous entities and history in a clearer manner. For example:
FC Seoul is a football club based in Seoul, South Korea. It is currently owned and managed by GS Sports, a subsidiary of GS Group. The club is usually considered as a stronghouse in the K-League, with the financial backing of the GS Group, as well as having the advantage of playing in the nation's most populous city, which inevitably leads to higher average attendance. Founded in 2004, it was previously known as the Anyang Cheetahs FC from 19XX to 19XX and as LG Cheetahs from 19XX to 19XX. The club has undergone several name changes as well as relocations.
This is only a draft and editors should feel free to revise it in any way that corresponds to Wikipedia policies.
===Comments===
User Buteur is encouraged to avoid POV edits which only retards the progress of the article. Please refer to Wikipedia:Article development. Many of the statements have already been identified as non-neutral and thus further edits against this warning can be construed as Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Should such an incident occur, please refer to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. I believe the next course of action is Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration although Wikipedia:Requests for comment could be considered.
-- Evanx(tag?) 18:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mediator's Response 

message: User Buteur is encouraged to avoid POV edits which only retards the progress of the article. Please refer to Wikipedia:Article development. Many of the statements have already been identified as non-neutral and thus further edits against this warning can be construed as Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Should such an incident occur, please refer to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. I believe the next course of action is Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration although Wikipedia:Requests for comment could be considered.
-- Evanx(tag?) 18:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I have already informed all concerned parties for this dispute. Please sign under the respective stands for the above suggested solution. If there is disagreement, do provide an alternative solution. Recourse will only be open for 5 days. By then, if there is no disagreement, the suggested solution will be the course of action with immediate effect. Non-participation should not be an excuse.
-- Evanx(tag?) 18:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recourse

message: Yes, I know that using a computer video game as a source is not a good idea, however, I do tend to remember that in an earlier version of FIFA soccer, it would not allow games played in the K-League to end in a draw; every game had to have a winner and a loser.  Did this rule ever exist?  If it did, does it still exist?  And thirdly, if this rule existed, is it worth noting in the main K-League article?  Wjmorris3 01:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The absence of ties

message: I noticed that the Korean professional football league became known as the K-League very soon after the Japanese J-League came into being. Is there some kind of connection between the organizations that would have led to the same naming scheme? Smoove K 05:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlikely.  The phenomenon is not unique to football; cf. K-pop and J-pop. -- Visviva 07:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  K-League name 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Jeju United.gif

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Seongnam logo.gif

message: :The Lucky Goldstar (LG) corporation caused a huge controversy at the end of 2003 when they made the decision to uproot their Anyang LG Cheetahs team from the Seoul satellite city of Anyang and move into the empty Seoul World Cup stadium, becoming FC Seoul which caused a strong supporter protest against the move from many fans around the league. Then following the 2005 season SK announced it was moving the Bucheon SK team to Jeju Island, where they have become Jeju United.
Putting aside the poor writing and unencyclopedic and POV statements like "caused a huge controversy", "caused a stronger supporter protest" and "uproot", why is this even in this article? I'm removing it if there aren't any compelling arguments for keeping it. 98.204.112.111 16:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the paragraph in the introduction? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Emblem of Busan I'Park.svg

message: Are we sure the official English translation is "Korea National Football League" as opposed to "Korean National Football League? And it this actually even used?--Cúchullain t/c 18:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: This article lacks citations, which is why I have assessed it as C-class.  I have access to some material that I will use at some stage to add some citations.  Zawed (talk) 10:19, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: References/Assessment

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