Talk:Harvard Kennedy School

message: Did William Rehnquist attend the school? His wikipedia page says he attained a master's degree in government, so I guess he went to the JFK School of Government.
--Harro5 07:04, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)
Why is Bill O'Reilly included in the list of notable alumni. I would agree he is notable but he is nowhere near as notable as all the other heads of state lited along with him
Bill O'Reilly and Katherine Harris should be listed under the notorious category. But that would be contrary to the NPOV principle.
--User: JerDW
Why is the Ph.D. program listed as tops in International Relations. The rankings referred to the government department proper, while the masters rankings refered to the KSG?
:I have not read the article, but I suspect you are right.  Generally, Harvard's Dept. of Government is the top-rated Ph.D. program.  This program lives in GSAS, not KSG. Rlove 05:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rehnquist

message: Upon reading the article on Frydenberg, it's fairly clear that the reference to him in this article keeps getting deleted because he is not an alumnus until he actually earns his degree (which according to his page, he is still in the process of doing).  In other words, wait until he graduates to add him back in, please. ScreaminEagle 22:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joshua Frydenberg 

message: See above (Frydenberg) for same explanation.  She can be added again once she actually receives her degree. ScreaminEagle 02:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clare O'Neil 

message: The school has run orientation seminars for incoming "freshman" U.S. congressmen since at leas the mid 1970s.  There was an interruption in 1994 with the Gingrich led "Republican Revolution" and "Contract with America".  I recall learning at the time the reason having been that the Republicans who went through the seminars at the school found them to be liberally biased.  I wasn't able to find enough reliable sources to add this yet, but some of the data is here  and here .  What is missing from those is 1) why the Republicans denied the school the opportunity to run the seminars and 2) when and why they moved back.  GRBerry 02:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orientation Sessions for Incoming US Congressmen 

message: I feel that the Mason program could use some additional information, as it is an important component of the Mid Career MPA program at HKS. I made it a new paragraph and added a brief description that can be fleshed out more.ZR312 (talk) 14:53, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mason program 

message: 1. Mark the alumni section as needing references. Allow contributors time to provide references, at the end of which, remove those alumni who lack references. 
2. Notability criteria: If they have a Wikipedia page that is not being contested as notable. Easy. 
3. Keep as alumni: MPP, MPA, ExecEd, Post-Doctoral work, and Joint Degrees as long as one of the joint degrees were one of the other mentioned degrees. 
4. Remove: Lacking a Wikipedia page. If they really are notable, one should be started. Also remove those who didn't complete a degree. Or had a degree but had it later revoked. 
5. If list is too long, consider a separate page.  Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Or: Keep it as it is, and if you have anyone who needs to be added, add them WITH the appropriate citation. Your strong feelings about this matter make me strongly suspect a COI on your behalf for one of the names I've correctly removed. Further, post-docs and ExecEds are NOT alumni, and JD does not stand for Joint Degree, but Juris Doctorate means they went to the law school. Everything else you've said is irrelevant and three weeks? No. If they don't belong on the list, they don't belong on the list. If they do belong on the list, prove it. With a reference or a bluelink. JesseRafe (talk) 18:39, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: JesseRafe, I am trying to compromise with you in good faith. They could have done a Joint Degree as an MPP/JD. Remember Wikipedia is "Assume Good Faith" and your efforts do not seem to be working to a compromise. You just broke the Rule of 3. Reverting your edit as that is vandalism as you have not discussed the criteria. Again, see my question why are you keeping some folks who do not have their degree type or year even listed? Someone might say you have a grudge against someone here. I won't. Instead, let's work on the consensus here. What about the above differs from your logic? Do you include or not include ExecEd or Post-Docs or Joint Degrees? Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 18:49, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

text: JesseRafe, please work towards Dispute resolution -- I have asked for your criteria for deletes as you are being inconsistent. You have not responded. Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 00:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not been inconsistent in the slightest, people who did not graduate from this school or are not notable do not belong on a list of "notable alumni", that's the end of the story. This isn't about you or your personal reasons for including one of these people whom you've added to this list (And done NOTHING ELSE on Wikipedia, but about the standards of the encyclopedia, not your random additions. JesseRafe (talk) 00:48, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Request for mediation has been filed. You did not remove Ed Balls, no degree noted. You did not remove John R. Allen, Jr. , Exec degree. You did not remove Andrey Bezrukov , degree stripped. You are inconsistent. Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 01:11, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Further, not all universities do the definition you have of must have graduated to be an alumni. Other schools count as alumni students. Wikipedia's own definition of Alumni has this. Again, you need to explain your criteria and we need to reach consensus. Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 01:11, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal Towards A Compromise 

message: JesseRafe, I'm not going to type too much other than to say if you saw my efforts towards a Compromise in this text page I have always been for removing non-notable, non-blue link individuals. I was pointing out your original edits removed some non-linked but didn't remove others that were non-linked. I asked why? Could you explain your criteria and that you were being inconsistent? 
You didn't explain. So then I tried to work out here your criteria. I asked if Exec Ed would be included or not, you kept on saying alumni would have to have graduated. I tried to share the definition of alumni to point out they didn't have to have graduated to be considered one. You didn't seem to want to engage in that discussion. Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  All for removing individuals who do not have notable blue link articles 

message: I will be happy to lift protection if involved editors agree to not continue edit warring. Ping me when you reach that agreement. Thanks to all, Drmies (talk) 17:55, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: JesseRafe, what do you say? Comments and edits welcomed on the draft page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benutzernamen188_66_8_4#Notable_HKS_alumni which keeps only those individuals with a Wikipedia entry that have received an MPA, MPP, Exec, or PhD from the Kennedy School. Individuals were removed who did not complete one of those four degrees. Dates added where I could for those individuals who did not have a degree listed. Does this work for you? And has the list gotten long enough that it is better as a split-off list referenced by the Kennedy School article instead? Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 14:32, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

text: Have received no additional comments or edits, so cut-and-pasted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benutzernamen188_66_8_4#Notable_HKS_alumni which keeps only those individuals with a Wikipedia entry that have received an MPA, MPP, Exec, or PhD from the Kennedy School. I do wonder if this is better as a split-off list referenced by the Kennedy School article instead? Benutzernamen188 66 8 4 (talk) 13:34, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

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message: As of October 2, 2017, this article contains 47 references. Of these, 36 (76.5%) cite publications by Harvard University, the Kennedy School, or closely related outlets. Specifically:
* 27 cite to harvard.edu
* 3 to the Kennedy School
* 2 to Kennedy School student-edited journals
* 3 to The Harvard Crimson or Harvard Gazette
* 1 to Harvard's Shorenstein Center
That leaves only 11 references to sources ostensibly independent of Harvard University.
While the Harvard primary sources provide useful information, they also tend to hype the Kennedy School. Wikipedia's policy WP:NOTPROMOTION mandates that this encyclopedia is not a vehicle for advertising, showcasing or recruitment. Naturally alumni and current students of the Kennedy School are proud of their institution; but editors ought to resist the temptation for boosterism, which undermines the credibility of Wikipedia. KalHolmann (talk) 17:58, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the article is overly promotional and the referencing is adequate. Britishfinance (talk) 10:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overreliance on Harvard sources 

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message: Request help in editing name of the Wikipedia page from "John F. Kennedy School of Government" to "Harvard Kennedy School".
Reason: The School calls itself HKS now. Every mention on the website, press releases, and other publication refers to "Harvard Kennedy School".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.234.189.45 (talk) 05:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, move requested. --bdijkstra (talk) 08:17, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to change title 

message: The following was added today to the main HU article. It's way too much over there:
In 1936, a $2 million donation from Harvard College alumnus and former Harvard football coach Lucius Littauer, a businessman and former U.S. Congressman, was used to launch Harvard's first graduate school focused exclusively on public policy, economics, international affairs, and politics, called the Harvard Graduate School of Public Administration. In 1966, in honor of John F. Kennedy, the school was renamed the John F. Kennedy School of Government and later Harvard Kennedy School. Since its founding, Harvard Kennedy School has graduated 17 heads of state, launched a number of sizable programs within the school, including the Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation, the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, the Dubai initiative, the Harvard Institute of Politics, the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, and others, and built an endowment of $1.7 billion as of 2021.[https://finance.harvard.edu/files/fad/files/fy21_harvard_financial_report.pdf Harvard Financial Report Harvard Kennedy School routinely ranks as the world's best, or one of the best, graduate programs for public policy, social and health policy, international affairs, and national security.. EEng 01:56, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stuff moved from [[Harvard University]]