Talk:Dashboard Confessional

message: If it's the consensus among editors that DC is not an emo band, then I accept that. However, one issue that was touched on, but not resolved, in the below debate, is that DC are very widely perceived as an emo band, even if that perception is incorrect. As  encyclopaedians, wouldn't it be simply irresponsible to entirely disregard that? Perhaps the first sentence could be reworded to: "Dashboard Confessional is an American acoustic/electric guitar driven indie rock band (often mistakenly labeled as emo) ..." Or, maybe, there could be a short section in the article about the distinction, and why they aren't really emo? It just seems silly to ignore that DC are extremely widely perceived to be emo. A google search for "dashboard confessional emo" yields 489,000 results, for "dashboard confessional indie" 421,000. Thatcrazycommie 02:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a plan to me... :) Go ahead. --HarryCane 15:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. I just wanted to make sure there were no objections. I'll try to get around to writing a short section, but, to be honest, I don't really know what makes music officially "emo" or not, so it won't be very good. Hopefully someone who does can clean it up.Thatcrazycommie 04:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Eyeliner and lyrics about slitting wrists, if you go by common conception... :) --HarryCane 11:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I must agree with that crazy commie.  Definitions are simply what people agree a words means and people have decided that DC is an Emo band.  This may be a misnomer considering the history of emo but to say that they are not emo is to disagree with the majority consensus about the definition of emo.  For many people emo is defined as “what dashboard confessional sounds like.”  As the majority of people believe that it seems silly and against wikipedia standards to fight calling DC emo.  You may argue that wikipedia is a place for facts not for putative knowledge but definitions are by their nature determined by what most people think.  Perhaps the problem is the newly arisen def. of emo not this article? Beckboyanch 07:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree with this. I think it can be mentioned that Dashboard is widely consider emo, but then it must be mentioned that they are in fact not an emo band (just as the emo article does). And to be honest, "definitions are by their nature determined by what most people think" is a little bogus, don't you think? I mean, if the majority of the population of the earth thought that 0.999... does not equal 1, that would certainly not suspend the mathematical law. And this is where it gets religious: If the majority of the population of the earth thought that the existence of mankind started with homo sapiens Adam and Eve, that does not suspend (scientificly proven) evolutionary theories. Also, as I already pointed out, if you go by what most people think, emo music is defined by the use of "eyeliner and lyrics about slitting wrists", both of which are not very prevalent in Dashboard Confessional's self presentation. --HarryCane 11:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While you are a hundred percent right about facts definitions are different.  A definition is what people agree a word means, it is what the majority have decided a word means.  The majority of people have decided that the word emo includes DC and therefore DC is emo.  This may represent a significant divulgence from previous usage, it may confuse, but because people agree that something (Y) is x then Y is x because now x means what Y is regardless of what x used to mean.  Popular usage determines definition and within popular usage DC is emo therefore DC is emo.  If the definition expressed in wikipedia or elsewhere does not include DC as emo then it must e changed.  However this is more a question of the philosophy of words than relevant to the article should this discussion should end within the confines of this talk page.Beckboyanch 02:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  poster children of emo 

message: i totally agree about the emo thing people nowadays classify way too much music as emo some people even say simple plan and green day are emo. i can see how they would classify bands like hawthorne heights, taking back sundy etc. as emo but they should be clasified as "mainstreamo"—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Burger king (talk • contribs) .
:Ha..I call those bands "wannabemo."  But I agree too.  I hate the misconceptions and mislabelling about 'emo.'  It's so irritating, but I'm sure any attempts to edit Wikipedia to more accurately describe "emo" would be reverted by the masses who are misinfomred about what emo is. WikiFew 06:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say give it a try. :) --HarryCane 09:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  emo 

message: I remember adding a link to DBCLive previously, which is (was) a website that fans could go to in order to download their live performances through FTP.  That site seems to be down, but has a replacement site of DBCFans.com, created by one of the hosts of DBCLive.  The site is well known by the band, and in fact, has been used as a reference for the band, when they were looking for particular material from a particular live appearance.  Why is it improper to have a link for this website? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drego5 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DBCLive/DBCFans Link 

message: Seriously, emo does not have to mention slitting wrists. It has other topics like being unnoticed by girls and rejected (for you to notice) and a sad end to something (currents). I also think DC to be emo, because of the acoustic guitar/emotional vocals combination in some of their songs, and not indie, because other indie bands (maritime, the dismemberment plan, travis etc) are not nearly as emotional as them, and so dc don't fit in with the indie rock genre. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.47.168.41 (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For the one millionth time: the term emo music does not come from an emotional way to sing, or emotional lyrics. Hell, Kelly Clarkson and P!nk have emotional songs, are they emo? Emo is a subgenre of hardcore punk that was predominant in the '90s. --HarryCane 13:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

text: You can't really classify a bands genre until you establish exactly what the genre is. In my opinion emo means extremely emotional, lonely, hopeless, depressed, and a social outcast. That is where the lyrics about slitting wrists come from, but are not in every emo song. Also every reference to slitting wrists dosent flag emo right away. One example is the +44 song No It Isn't where the chours includes "Let's slit our wrists and burn down something beatiful". +44 is pop punk but not emo. I've only heard a few DC songs, but from what I've heard they include all the things I thought meant emo. The reason i think bands are reluctant to be called emo is beacuse it has such a bad connotation and if they were labled emo most people would laugh and say "They're emo, I don't want to listen to them" before they even give them a chance. --Jaylee182 02:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yea sorry I bought a DC album and now I see how wrong I was. They aren't even close to being emo. Ok i agree with you now and everybody else should. DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL IS NOT EMO.--Jaylee182 19:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The emo genre 

message: scott from the promise ring is in DC? is he the furthest away on the picture? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.47.169.201 (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott scoenbeck? 

message: Yeah some idiot deleted what what I recently put in here on how they are Emo..Recently, as in about maybe less than an hour ago. So put it back in. Zephead999 06:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the fuck? Add in what I said about how they are Emo. 

message: Hey guys how about linking to Dashboard Confessional's A.D.D. bio on MTV.com? Its exclusive content. Check it out and see if you want to add it to the external link page. The URL is http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1541041&vid=108522--Chasingemy 20:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that Chasingemy is an MTV employee. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Are you sure that the song "Ender Will Save Us All," is a reference the book? Chris's middle name is Ender and in an interview with Aaron Gilispie of Underoath in Alternative Press, Aaron said he loves that song and had a conversation about it with Chris himself, and I believe it gives the origins of the song.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhendershott (talk • contribs) 17:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References in Popular Culture 

message: Hi, I had a look in the article for info on "MTV2 Album Covers: Dashboard Confessional & R.E.M" But couldn't see anything. Im not an expert on Dashboard Confessional albums so perhaps it is named something different. If not would it be possible to add it? More info: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/rem/albums/album/5251809/mtv2_album_covers_dashboard_confessional__rem Fosnez (talk) 01:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MTV2 Album Covers 

message: I fixed the disambiguation for Scala, but I'm not sure if that was the right one.  The only other place on Wikipedia is some small village, so I just assumed it was the one in Italy.  Feel free to change it if it is wrong.--Mynameisnotpj (talk) 16:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scala disambiguation 

message: Remember people, music is about sound not lyrics. If metallica were to make the heaviest song about slitting wrist would it be emo? No, emo is a sound not lyrics just as all music is. Same with punk, not all punk is about anarchey, so if a pop band comes along and sings about anarchy are they punk? Just getting that out of the wayA7xTheRev12 (talk) 00:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: Per WP:BANDMEMBER. Career outside Dashboard Confessional does not appear to give him enough notability for a separate article. Tacyarg (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[John Lefler]] into [[Dashboard Confessional]]