Talk:Marty Munsch

message: Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.124.185 (talk) 15:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace

message: All factual and legit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.213.90 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: All factual and legit

message: WP:NPOV, WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:BLP, WP:NOTE, WP:COI, WP:AUTOBIO, WP:COS :
 
Marty Munsch (born August 1967) is an American music producer.  Munsch was born in Union County, New Jersey, and raised in the towns of Franklin Lakes and Wyckoff in Bergen County, New Jersey.  Munsch is the principal owner of Punk Rock Records.(citation needed for all this but I think it's OK for the article for now).
Career:
Manager of US Chaos in early '80s Link: http://www.sugarbuzzmagazine.com/bands/uschaos/uschaos.html
Producer on the album Victory Singles Volume 3 for the songs “Down the Drain” and “Parasite” by L.E.S. Stitches.  Link:  http://www.discogs.com/release/850465
Contributed video to: Punk's Not Dead: The Movie.  Link: http://www.punksnotdeadthemovie.com/links.html
Engineer on the T.S.O.L. song “You've Come Undone” for T.S.O.L. Live 2005 CBGB's Live WFMU .Link:http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/17623
SQGibbon (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article reads like a resume/vanity site

message: I created a discussion subpage on my talk page User_talk:Xblkx/Marty_Munsch to discuss improvements to this article that I had proposed on 26-Feb-2009 that were simply deleted as vandalism by a user with a dynamic IP address.
I am not an experienced editor, so I invite the authors and editors of this article who are more familiar with the subject than I am to respond, discuss, and improve the article and to remove the content that does not meet Wikipedia standards which SQGibbon has invested hours in evaluating.  Please do not simply delete the tags challenging the content that does not meet those standards.   Xblkx (talk) 01:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've finished uploading all my research to the subpage.  So everyone interested please come take a look and comment, challenge, whatever. SQGibbon (talk) 21:40, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Invitation to edit or discuss

message: I've copied my heavily edited version over here to be the new one.  See the discussion here for the reasoning.  Now that we have a clean and decently well-sourced version, adding more information should be easier to track and verify. SQGibbon (talk) 21:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. We'll see. I'll post another note on Marty's page about not deleting talk comments. It would seem according to the below that he is abdicating involvement. So we'll just have to keep the anon's in check. Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes. we now see Marty aka SOCal9045, having professed indifference as below, attempting to revive the earlier version. diff. Wwwhatsup (talk) 02:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Version 

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pxc3580 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The two of you. Please feel free to air your differences, but they should be confined to the content of the article. Please 1) do not delete other people's comments, and 2) sign your comments with 4 tildes. Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

text: To make an additional clarification, "public consensus" and "encyclopedic" are unrelated terms applied to content for differing reasons.  Encyclopedic is a standard applied to content.  Public consensus is used to reconcile disputes for included content and whether it meets the standards of this website.  Xblkx (talk) 04:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Section

message: Interestingly enough, I have barely recognized this wiko site and it's wacko's untill a few months ago, Sad as it may be.
			
I would like to go out of my way and THANK whomever may have contributed to my information no matter how it may be posted. I don't have the time to waste on a encyclopedia that is based upon public consensus. 
Preceding unsigned comment added by SOcal9045 (talk • contribs) </span>
: The two of you. Please feel free to air your differences, but they should be confined to the content of the article. Please 1) do not delete other people's comments, and 2) sign your comments with 4 tildes. Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To make an additional clarification, "public consensus" and "encyclopedic" are unrelated terms applied to content for differing reasons.  Encyclopedic is a standard applied to content.  Public consensus is used to reconcile disputes for included content and whether it meets the standards of this website.  Xblkx (talk) 04:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you 

message: A tag has been placed on :Marty Munsch, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Music
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. 
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  68.193.213.46 (talk) 06:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Marty Munsch]]

message: Now that the Punk Rock Records article has been trimmed down to something based on reliable sources it's probably time to merge the articles. Anyone have an opinion about which article should be the main one (assuming they should be merged)?  SQGibbon (talk) 06:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say merge MM into PRR. I think we can speculate that it is MM himself who has been behind the recent anon attempts to delete the MM article, and that the product is of more interest. Wwwhatsup (talk) 02:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on all counts.  We can wait a few days but I doubt anyone is going to take notice of this so whenever one of us feels the urge we should make the merge.  I think some of the notable (so-called) achievements listed on this page were probably done separate from PRR and would need to be listed that way. SQGibbon (talk) 04:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see a problem there. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see a problem either, on the grounds that Marty Munsch's only notability is that he was principal owner of Punk Rock Records.  The notability of both (or either), as cited in a reliable source, is in the credits list of the articles.  My opinion is that a merge will not degrade the quality of information in either article, and doing so reduces the likelihood of vandalism (which seems to be a problem with these subjects).  Less to try to keep up with; more time to spend on articles whose notability has never been challenged.  Which article should remain intact and which should be the redirect?  Xblkx (talk) 04:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I agree with the merger, too. Hekerui (talk) 15:13, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of [[Marty Munsch]] and [[Punk Rock Records]] 

message: (All) This information is incorrect and should be removed.
67.80.196.39 (talk) 07:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 15:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 67.80.196.39, 27 May 2011 

message: A bunch of anon edits in the last two days boil down to this - US Chaos involvement was 90s not 80s, and that there was an album made of the T.S.O.L. CBGB recording. No refs to back up either, but not worth reverting IMO. Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:45, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the album claim for CBGB recording is not supported by the source.  As for the rest of it it's just padding the section.  I think the projects he worked on that are not notable (i.e., bands without articles) should be removed as not belonging to the "Notable credits" section. SQGibbon (talk) 00:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: I see nothing in the T.S.O.L. article to indicate that "You've Come Undone" was ever released as an album so I'm reverting that and the non-notable credits as mentioned above. SQGibbon (talk) 00:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm with you. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Credits 

message: I propose that Punk Rock Records be merged into Marty Munsch. There is not enough unique content to make it worth keeping as a standalone article, and Punk Rock Records appears solely to be a vehicle for Munsch's recording activity.  Since Munsch is also a photographer, it makes sense to merge in this direction. Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've done it. Wwwhatsup (talk) 09:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Corrections are the true name and birth title of afforementioned person. Marty Munsch was a stage name, Aaron is true first name.
65.40.192.212 (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That be as it may. Reliable secondary references are needed to change the article. Even so Marty Munsch is the name with a claim to notability, however tenuous. The real name is ancillary information. Wwwhatsup (talk) 21:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: This page should be speedily deleted because...  --Lotuspig (talk) 04:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot to include your reason. SQGibbon (talk) 23:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: 12  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.196.39 (talk) 16:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things Noted 

message: I see today the same IP that has left the informative number above has changed the place and date of birth. I have reverted. Since this information is now contested, perhaps it should be removed altogether. I do see there were earlier reverted edits of the middle name, so perhaps that should go too. Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Place and date of birth

message: I see the article has again been proposed for speedy deletion. I am going to remove the notice, but I'm not saying a formal AfD is not warranted. The reason the article is minimal is that various editors have conscientiously pared it down to the reliably sourced info. A little while ago I merged in the companion Punk Rock Records article, via discussion above. It was preferred to merge this way, as Munsch evidently does also engineer/produce and take photographs. So the question also is does Punk Rock Records lack sufficient notability? In Discogs, just one 1996 release is mentioned. but major outlets such as Amazon have a 2010 comp "20 Years Of Punk Rock Records".. I'll go ahead and add those to the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:39, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't propose this for speedy deletion, but prodded it. The question wasn't--and isn't--the notability of the label, though that may warrant discussion as well--the Discogs listing is not very strong support, and a listing on Amazon is a non-reference, only showing works have reached the marketplace. The issue here is whether Mr. Munsch has received substantial coverage from reliable sources, and after some 6 years that still hasn't been established. I'll restore a template or two up top, and pending the addition of reliable sources that support his notability, suggest AfD as appropriate. 99.137.210.226 (talk) 00:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I still feel the article subject is non-notable but haven't had time to work on this in the last year or so.  One question I have is if the article is deleted, is all of this discussion lost?  Several people, myself included, have diligently worked over a period of years editing this article and provided a factual basis for the edits and merges.  It would not be pleasant to revisit all of that work if a new resume/vanity site for engineer/photographer/record producer Munsch were re-created in the future.Xblkx (talk) 06:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Speedy Deletion March 2013 

message: I just compared today's version with my last edit - Mar 16 2013 - and it didn't seem to me anything in the way of well-sourced material had been added. So I have restored to that. I've also gone ahead and removed the birthplace, since that was again contested in the recent bout of anon edits, and is unsourced. Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have also removed the birthdate, since the year was disputed in the latest round of anon edits. Wwwhatsup (talk) 04:07, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plus  ca change 

message: Nulp1788 (talk) 14:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You did not place a request.Maria Gemmi (talk) 14:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2022