Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants/Archive3

message: I have some knowledge about tropical fruits and wish to add them to Wikipedia for general noncommercial interest. These amount to some high quality foods generally unknown. I guess I will just do this in the appropriate plant family area (ie taxonomically), although the average person doesn't think "name of plant" when he or she sees a fruit. Cross referencing to foods would be good as well. Any comments appreciated. Dkchandlee
Sounds like you have some interesting articles to add! It would make most sense to publish them under pages by scientific (binomial) names unless the Common name is well known and unambiguous. Then link them to other pages as you mentioned. Check out the list on the page on tropical fruit. NoahElhardt 05:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "New" Tropical Fruits 

message: Hi, the main page currently contains a link to the 2006 Table Mountain fire (under the news items), which according to this source has destroyed between 40 and 50 percent of the world's silver leaf tree population. This fact is noted in the fire article and thus it contains a link to the silver leaf tree article (which I created). Unfortunately, my knowledge of trees is VERY limited so the article in its current for is an unsatisfactory stub. Given that the article is only 2 links deep from the main page I think it needs to be expanded... Help will be much appreciated. Mikkerpikker ... 23:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Expanded it. Also moved the page to the scientific name, as various references I looked at gave a choice of four different common names, making a NPOV common name title difficult. - MPF 17:36, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot MPF, I've seen your changes & appreciate the input! Mikkerpikker ... 20:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: non-biologist needs help!

message: The Wikipedia Help Desk has been approached by the Flower Expert website . It looks like a useful resource for people writing articles on flowering plants. Capitalistroadster 07:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Took a look at it - it doesn't appear to me to have much (if any) useful content that we don't already have. Actually, a lot of their info looks like it is copied off wikipedia, but old page versions from some time ago. - MPF 13:28, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Flower Resource

message: Does anyone know whether genus Poa and genus Parodiochloa, both of the family Poaceae, are the same thing under two different names, or two distinct genera? According to List of the vascular plants of Britain and Ireland 8, the common name of Poa flabellata is Tussac-grass, but there is an article Tussac Grass that says the species in question is Parodiochloa flabellata. If the two are in fact the same thing, the two articles should be merged. If they're different, then List of the vascular plants of Britain and Ireland 8 should be corrected. Thanks! Angr/talk 19:34, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Poa and Parodiochloa are not the same thing. Poa is a large genus and Parodiochloa seems to be a recent segregate from it. But the two names you ask about are one and the same species: Parodiochloa flabellata is a recently published new name for Poa flabellata, although I don't know how widely accepted this name, or the genus Parodiochloa, might be. A good source for nomenclatural and taxonomic information on plant genera and species is the Missouri Botanical Garden'sTropicos. It's not nearly complete, but for the names it does include there's a lot of good information. MrDarwin 19:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So what you're saying is, yes, Poa flabellata and Tussac Grass should be merged as both articles discuss the same species? Angr/talk 19:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That depends. Is "Tussac Grass" a unique common name that refers only to this species, or is the name a spelling variant of "tussock grass", which can refer to any number of species?  I'm probably the wrong person to ask, as I have little patience for "common names" and I'm an advocate for creating articles under the botanical (scientific) name, with common names redirecting to that article (or having a disambiguation page, as I suspect this one would need). MrDarwin 20:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, I'm not a biologist. But there is a different article Tussock Grass. But the point is, the current content of the article Tussac Grass (regardless of whether it should be called that) is about the same species as the article Poa flabellata, and we shouldn't have two articles on the same topic. Angr/talk 20:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked out both articles and it looks like you're right.  I would suggest merging them under Poa flabellata (with a note about the name Parodiochloa flabellata).  I don't know what to do about "tussac grass" (I'm no grass expert) but I suspect it's a variant or misspelling of "tussock".  I just did a Google search on the "tussac" spelling and found several articles, all apparently referring to the Falklands species so this may indeed be a spelling unique to that region. I would suggest keeping it as a redirect it to the Poa flabellata article, and maybe include a link under the article "tussock grass" as well. MrDarwin 20:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. But I would prefer leaving it to someone who does know something about plants to do the merger. I'm just a translator. Angr/talk 21:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--Curtis Clark 04:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poa = Parodiochloa? 

message: Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would guess you are two years too early in looking for great articles on plants. Wikipedia has great potential, but as yet it is unrealized where plants are concerned. Brya 21:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, we're looking for both high-quality articles to add to the listing of A-Class articles as well as important plant articles, regardless of shape, for listing in the science listing of assessed articles. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that articles on each of the major groups of plants would be desirable for inclusion in such a project, but I'm not sure that any of these articles merit more than a B at this point. For land plants, the relevant articles are: Marchantiophyta, hornwort, moss, bryophyte, vascular plant, Lycopodiophyta, fern, spermatophyte, Pinophyta, cycad, Ginkgo, flowering plant, monocotyledon, dicotyledon, though others would undoubtedly consider other articles to (eventually) be worth adding to this list. Perhaps one or more of these articles should be nominated for the Article Improvement Drive. --EncycloPetey 14:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your feedback.  I have done my best to assess these, but I'm know very little about botany so could you please check/adjust my assessments here?  I judged Bladderwort to be A-Class, is that OK?  I also thought that cycad looked close to A, would it just need a section on life cycle and some more wikilinks to be A? I did find some of the articles to be full of technical terms (as I would expect), and words like allopatry can benefit from wikilinks.  The articles seem to have lots of nice pictures and references, something many articles lack.  Please edit my amateurish assessments.  Thanks, Walkerma 03:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

message: I made a suggestion for a change to template:botanist. See template talk:botanist. Brya 15:29, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template: botanist 

message: I would like to inform you that the article Flora (plants) has been nominated in WP:AID. The article, I believe, needs serious improvements. I ask your votes, assistance and colaboration to make this a Feature article WP:FA. Thank you!! --Francisco Valverde 07:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flora  AID nomination 

message: Due to discussions in the WP:AID nomination it was decided to change the WP:AID nomination to the WP:COTW nomination. It was considered that Flora (plants) was really a stub, even though it has a considerable length. I invite all of you to contribute to this article. --Francisco Valverde 09:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update on Flora 

message: The stub article on the Fabales has been nominated for Collaboration of the week. It will need lots of votes to beat votes from the "Balkan Block". --EncycloPetey 09:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Wikipedia:Collaboration_of_the_week|COTW]] Nomination