Talk:Manga artist

message: Should the surnames be alphabetized, in the Latin order? --KJ 10:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, and they already are. --nihon 01:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Alphabetize names?

message: in any other language wikipedia,mangaka and list of mangaka are divided.I would divide.--Forestfarmer 19:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: division

message: This page really needs to be redone... This is kind of sad. I wish there was a Mangaka project. --Hitsuji Kinno 04:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page needs serious help 

message: Sometimes in manga, usually in the foreword section, the artist will refer to his artwork as his "Mangaka". I think we should make the following edition:
"Mangaka is sometimes (not usually) used to refer to the authors work, when the author is speaking about his/her manga."
Or something of that sort. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.86.84.250 (talk) 16:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you come up with a citation? If not don't add it until you can. And a reliable source, like a magazine, etc.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mangaka as the manga itself. 

message: Is mangaka in any English dictionaries? What's up with most of the Japan related articles here using a foreign word when referring to someone who draws comics? Most normal people have no idea what it means, and having to click on it just to read the definition is a major inconvenience.
Southsailor (talk) 07:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It's already happened with the widespread use of "Seiyuu" in articles here, yet these aren't acceptable words in the English lexicon. Samurai is a well-accepted loan word, "Mangaka" isn't even close to being one. Using this term all over wikipedia as if it were perfectly normal to do so is just bad practice. AMHR285 (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll change every "mangaka" and "seiyuu" to "manga writer and illustrator" and "japanese voice actor" after you justify changing "manga" to "japanese styled comics" and "anime" to "japanese styled cartoons". I wouldn't argue that they're different because they're not. the words are mangaka and seiyuu. Dictionaries will have it, eventually; but, for now, (especially since were on wikipedia) you should try the only up to date dictionary (wiktionary) for those words. I found them. 86.45.91.71 (talk) 00:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a difference between these two sets of terms. Anime and manga have found their way into common English usage and are understood by most English readers. So these terms do not need to be explained when used in an article. Mangaka and seiyū, on the other hand, have not found their way into common English usage, are not understood by most English readers, and the terms should be explained or defined whenever they are used in an article per WP:JARGON. --Farix (Talk) 21:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The "anime" and "manga" comparison was for those who wished for translations. If you want explanations there is a problem there too; these are words not terms: they don't need explanations, they need definitions. To put definitions wherever they are mentioned would be unsuitable. Don't be lazy. Just because it's a new loanword, don't act like you're being cheated into taking an extra couple of seconds from your wiki-time to learn a new word. It's good that you learned something new and exotic, don't you think? 86.40.178.252 (talk) 03:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What on earth are you talking about? Articles should be written to be understood, not to force the learning and adoption of foreign words into the English lexicon. On what authority do you say mangaka and seiyuu are “new loanwords”? There is a distinction between manga and Western comics, and between anime and Western cartoons; not so between their respective artists and voice actors. —98.203.11.165 (talk) 04:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  English anyone? 

message: To call something affixed to the end of a Japanese word a "suffix" is to demonstrate silly ignorance. There are both proper English and Japanese words for all of them. The commonest (a word I coin myself, and spellcheck doesn't complain, though spellcheck drives it up the wall!) are the "particles", one of which is -ka, turning the whole precedent sentence into a question, so since MS Windows gives me trouble with filenames with question marks in them, I just use "ka" as if it were a question mark, tagging it onto something, like "Who's he ka", making a very excellent filename. But other suffixes have names for their types, which somebody or other really ought to look into, perhaps gaining a Japanese pen-pal in the bargain. What kind of suffix is -ka, as it's used here, and the wording is no good, something like "used in referring to" or "implying" such and such. Just give its meaning! They're all very simple concepts, once you "get" them. Such as types of people. -za means something, -ya means a few things (making "a shop which sells it", I think, and other things), -ka means things, -teki turns nouns into adjectives, or vice versa, etc. There are -maki, -yaki, -udon, for food preparation techniques, others for counting things, and so on. Find out what kind of suffix this -ka is, and you'll go a long way towards understanding and explaining it. -san, -sha, -kun, -sensei, -shi, maybe -bun and -ko, and so on ad infinitum, are all kinds of people! There's a name for that sort of suffix. I think the "mora" (meaning "syllable", roughly) "ka" is the most common in Japanese, or maybe it's "shi".  They each must have lots of meanings, even in similar contexts.  One thing "mangaka" might mean is "manga?", the question! Unfree (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Suffixes? In Japanese?

message: In keeping with WP:USEENGLISH a rename proposal is very likely. But what should it be renamed to, Manga artist or Manga creator? Or should the whole thing be merged into Comics artist or Comic book creator? —Farix (t | c) 03:36, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd vote for Manga artist (which actually currently redirects to Mangaka) KudouUsagi (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: At first impression, I would agree with that. However, we must remember that there are mangaka who do not draw any art, but simply write the stories. So calling them "manga artist" would not be very fitting. This is why I'm favoring Manga creator as a broader article name that would include both artists and writers. Then you can have Mangaka, Manga artist, and Manga author as redirects. —Farix (t | c) 12:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible rename 

message: Mangaka is clearly an occupation, and  is now added, but should this article have , or individual Mangka articles have that WikiProject line? --Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visual arts 

message: Hello, I am considering adding a new section to the page titled "Becoming a Mangaka". I know it is already addressed a little in the lead, but I feel that it should have its own section as interest in being a mangaka has risen. Here is the link to the sandbox containing the draft feel free to give it a read and share your thoughts on the idea.Wacheli (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the feedback! Wacheli (talk) 00:12, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section for the page? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost (talk) 03:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Mangaka →  – As per WP:CRITERIA, the following are what to take into account when deciding how to name an article: 
* Recognizability: I think the name "manga artist" is far easier to understand to someone who knows nothing about this than the specific term "Mangaka"
* Naturalness: The last line explicitly states "Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English". Manga artist is the English term where Mangaka is the romanized version of the Japanese name.
* Precision: N/A
* Conciseness: N/A
* Consistency: The category for manga artists/mangaka is titled :Category:Manga artists and most places where "Mangaka" is linked pipe it to show "Manga artist". 
Due to the above, the article should be moved to Manga artist. Link20XX (talk) 01:19, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move 1 August 2021

message: Normally a version of a page that specifies the Japanese side of things goes like this: "Voice acting" to "Voice acting in Japan", "Education" to "Education in Japan", et cetera. So logically..."Cartoonist" to "Cartoonists in Japan". It's not a separate thing, but rather, a page to talk about what it's like to be a cartoonist in Japan. I know all the weaboos I've met loathe when "manga" are called "comics", but that's what they are. "Manga artist" works, but it's intentionally ignoring the word we already have for comic artists: "cartoonist".Linkdude20002001 (talk) 00:32, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title Still a Bit Off