Talk:Berlin/Archive 1

message: Can someone more knowledgable than I add a few lines on the new train station? I believe it will be the world's largest? de.wikipedia has a fine big page  Seabhcán 16:44, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: City-state#Other_examples explicitly lists Berlin as one of the modern "city-states" and explains the difference between city-states such as Singapur and Berlin, Vienna, or Moscow. Do you think it is really necessary to remove it? --Johnnyw 15:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Johnny: I just think that it is misleading to an English speaker to use "city-state" for anything other than a sovereign state, since that is its normal meaning.  I understand what it means to call Berlin a "city-state", but that is because I understand German and the term Staatstadt and because I know Berlin's political status. But I think we have to write for English speakers who are unfamiliar with Berlin or Germany.  If we really wanted to use the term "city-state", I think that we would need to stop and explain that the term is not being used in its usual English sense.  But the article is long enough as it is.  I think that it is clearer just to explain Berlin's status, as I have done. Marco polo 01:57, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Berlin Hauptbahnhof-Lehrter Bahnhof 

message: The article says "Berlin used to be part of Brandenburg, but became a separate city state in 1920."
This is wrong. Correct is: Berlin used to be part of the state of Prussia, province Brandenburg (provinces used to be the administrative subunits of Prussia). This did not change in 1920. In 1920, "Greater Berlin" was created by incorporating several neighouring municipalities into the city of Berlin, but its status as a municipality inside the state of Prussia did not change then. In 1946 only, Prussia was officially dissolved by the Allies, and new states were created by reshuffling territories large style. Berlin became a state only then. The fact that it became separated from the surrounding Soviet zone into a quasi 5th zone of Germany practically forced it into becoming one. At the same time, Brandenburg state was created. Please can the original author correct this error? wolfgang 17/04/2005, not a wiki member
I am going to change the reference to Berlin as a "city-state". While it may be conventional in German to refer to Berlin and other cities that are also Länder (Bremen, Hamburg) as "Staatstädte", the term "city-state" in English implies sovereignty, which Berlin lacks. In English, "city-state" typically refers to entities like ancient Athens, medieval Venice, early modern Hamburg, or the modern Vatican City or Singapore that are truly independent. Marco polo 15:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: City-state#Other_examples explicitly lists Berlin as one of the modern "city-states" and explains the difference between city-states such as Singapur and Berlin, Vienna, or Moscow. Do you think it is really necessary to remove it? --Johnnyw 15:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Johnny: I just think that it is misleading to an English speaker to use "city-state" for anything other than a sovereign state, since that is its normal meaning.  I understand what it means to call Berlin a "city-state", but that is because I understand German and the term Staatstadt and because I know Berlin's political status. But I think we have to write for English speakers who are unfamiliar with Berlin or Germany.  If we really wanted to use the term "city-state", I think that we would need to stop and explain that the term is not being used in its usual English sense.  But the article is long enough as it is.  I think that it is clearer just to explain Berlin's status, as I have done. Marco polo 01:57, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Berlin as a state 

message: Hitler's quote is rhetorical blurb that could be applied to any olympic event, so it's only loosely related to the 1936 Berlin games, and completely unrelated to the city, i.e. its inhabitants, geography, architecture or history. If, to some wikipedians, a Berlin article is incomplete without a corresponding Hitler quote, the should dig it out. However, a quote worth mentioning should be poignant, witty and original – not really Hitler’s forte. --Tickle me 06:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded! Ianb 07:19, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I´ll sign up to that too!IsarSteve 12:15, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1936 Hitler quote, edit war 

message: US sociologist and theologist Peter L. Berger called Berlin the world's capital of Atheism...: Obviously, one man's statement doesn't represent the world's view. Besides, assertions are not wikipedic. --Tickle me 11:27, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OT: Arguably, that ol' urban sprawl is stuffed with atheists indeed, unlike e.g. Bagdad, Riyadh, Waco and ...Prairie Chapel Ranch. See for yourself, if this is such a bad thing. --Tickle me 13:37, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  deletion of "Worldview" 

message: I have a picture of an East Berlin skyline in 1999 from the Reichstag showing like 13 construction cranes.
I should do some brightness balancing.
Do you want it uploaded or is the article illustrated enough?
--Error 01:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Your pictures are always welcome at wikipedia's media repository, where all wikis can use them. Do you want it uploaded or is the article illustrated enough?: Decide for yourself. --Tickle me 06:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture of 1999 building works

message: IMO the removed link "The Fasanenstrasse Synagogue" doesn't qualify as spam, especially as the wikipedia article on the New Synagogue is still a stub. I added the link there, hopefully, its text will be integrated with that article. --Tickle me 21:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of bh.org.il link as spam

message: I have just recently seen that the article has been tagged. If any of you might be so kind and list the precise issues with which we have to deal it would be appreciated. Since I am a native, I hope I am able to contribute accordingly. --Johnnyw 22:35, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the article doesn't need a cleanup, I will remove the tag in the next couple of days.--Johnnyw 21:07, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs a history section for a start. When a breakout article is created it is not appropriate to delete the whole subject from the main article. Merchbow 06:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I noticed San Diego, California uses {{Infobox City , any reason why Berlin doesn't use Template:Infobox_City for its similar fine tabular info?  See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities#Infobox_City --Skierpage 06:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use Infobox City? 

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