Talk:Disk cloning

message: I'll be glad to do the Mac OS X part, but shouldn't we:
1. Create a stub page and
2. Move this page to a "Windows" subcategory?
I was looking for Mac OS X info and had to read a moment to figure out this was Windows-specific (and not X86 specific as it says in the article).
I'm sorry if I sound like a dummy, here, I'm pretty new to the editing side of Wikipedia, so thanks for your patience.
:At the time this was written, x86 excluded the Mac. The article does cover Linux on x86. Expanding it to cover Mac OS X on x86 and PPC would be great, but I don't have the expertise to do so.-gadfium 19:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's Add Other Platforms 

message: I've added all programs I know to the software section. I've used external links for the apps that don't have Wikipedia Articles. Please do not remove these external links unless you create an Wiki article about each of these programs. We must try to keep wikipedia readable. Suaven 09:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Software

message: I'm curious.. The article currently mentions "Although disk cloning programs are not primarily backup programs, they are sometimes used as such".  Is this still true?  Although I recognize the value of a backup application over a cloning application (backup application being much faster), I think it should be noted that backup applications are typically incapable of backing up your full installations.  I.e. if you lost your drive you can get back at your data files, but be prepared to re-install the application to work with those data files.  Whereas with a clone, restoring the clone is all that is required to be back up and running in addition to being able to restore individual files? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeBoxx (talk • contribs) 
:If you use a disk cloning program to make a copy of your hard disk, on another disk, tape or network drive, then you can recover your disk very easily in the case of disaster, but most disk cloning programs cannot make incremental backups, so each backup is very large and slower than an incremental backup. The disk cloning program may require rebooting the system to Dos or similar while it makes the copy.
:A backup program mostly requires the original operating system to be reinstalled before you restore a disk, but has great flexibility in making various types of incremental backups, and allows you to continue using the computer while the backup is made. It is also usually more flexible at allowing restore of individual files. A backup program will not do post-cloning configuration, or multicasting. I would expect a full backup or restore is likely to be slower with a backup program than a disk cloning program, but I've never run benchmark comparisons.
:There is certainly some overlap, with some backup programs capable of doing bare-metal restores. I don't know if such backup programs allow changing partition sizes, but I expect they would.
:I can't actually answer your question about whether cloning programs are used as backup, other than that I know a number of people who do this.-gadfium 05:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I can confirm that, I use R-Drive Image and it allows me to create a Live CD to back up (and restore) my system. SF007 (talk) 16:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Backup

message: I'm not really an expert in this area, so I'm not going to edit it, but I noticed one section (post-cloning operations) where it talks about problems with Windows machines having duplicated SIDs.  Then it completely reverses its viewpoint as if to nullify the previous argument.  This just seems like bad style, and the two parts of the section should probably be combined once the actual facts are figured out.  Also citations are needed.  71.98.20.88 19:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Odd wording

message: Is there a reason Novell's Zenworks Imaging is not mentioned? Is it merely licensed from one of the ones that is mentioned? I have worked with several of these imaging/cloning programs and found none to be as good as Novell's offering, so I was surprised not to see a mention. Even the Zenworks article only mentions it in passing. If inclusion is appropriate I'll add a link in the section for commercial apps. --Sorpigal 01:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ZENworks 

message: Other discs can be cloned too, why only mention hard discs? Helpsloose 19:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This could include clone hard disk images in USB keydrives also and how to do it. --Mac (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other discs? 

message: What about disk cloning an internal IDE hard disk to an external USB hard disk ?. --Mac (talk) 08:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal IDE to external USB 

message: I'm not sure having duplicate SIDs on in a Active Directory domain actually matters, even though common sysadmin practise may say otherwise. NewSID, one of the more popular tools for changing a machine's SID, was recently retired by its author, who is a Technical Fellow in the Platform and Services Division at Microsoft. His full report is here, but most importantly he wrote, "I took my conclusion to the Windows security and deployment teams and no one could come up with a scenario where two systems with the same machine SID, whether in a Workgroup or a Domain, would cause an issue."
I'd like to get some concensus before I go ahead and edit the article, however. --Tpk5010[Talk] 23:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicate SIDs? 

message: could one footnote "other reasonds"? One could as well have said 'You don't want to know!'
Not the language of hereabouts.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.21.225 (talk) 09:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:   "though other reasons also exist." 

message: The How it works section does not explain how cloning is performed, or describes any means or tools used to that end. Instead, it attempts to explain the concept of cloning by reference to itself, a homunculus fallacy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.4.105.152 (talk) 09:18, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  No explanation is given