Talk:Nomad

message: Nomadic people or nomads are people who move from place to place, rather than settling down in one place. Nomadic cultures are common in history, but are becoming obsolete in industrialised countries, this is due to change in consumerism and lifestyle.Is there a subsection  
dealing with itinerate people who have a defined areas they dont share as opposed to shared areas
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This topic seems stunningly, woefully inadequate to the task of describing nomadism and its historic, cultural, sociological, etc importance to all of humanity.  Why are there nomads?  When was humanity largely nomadic, and when and why did that end?  How big were social groups, what was the world population?  This passing description of extant nomads seems more like a curious after-thought to a much broader topic, rather than the meat of it.
71.197.224.221 (talk) 17:03, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomads

message: Nomad may seem like a better title for this article, partly because it's shorter.  I notice that most of the links to this article are through the nomad redirect page.  What would people think of moving it? Michael Hardy 22:37, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Nomad" as the title

message: I removed an opening paragraph in the article which dealt with the use of the term Nomad in WiMax networks. Such explications on matters of disambiguation should be placed on the disambiguaiton page. RCSB 23:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed reference to WiMax 

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message: This entry gives the impression that nomadism and pastoralism are the same thing. Pastoralism or animal husbandry is a subsistence method, and nomadism is not, although the term is sometimes used as shorthand for pastoralism. However, any society which does not remain sedentary for a significant length of time is considered nomadic. This includes most hunter-gatherers, but the entry makes no indication of this. Also there is no logical organization of the information that is presented.--LC | Talk 22:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Entry in need of cleanup

message: this section clearly contributes nothing to this entry and needs to be removed. it says nothing about nomadism and is instead some kind of story-book account of how nomadism gave way to "civilization." never mind all the conflicting information in the entry about modern nomads who exist within "civilization." if there is no protest to my removing this within 24 hours, i will do so. thanks.--LC | Talk 06:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Attributes of nomads" section

message: I don't see how traditionally nomadic sea-based peoples fit into any of the three categories. (See Sea Gypsies for some ethnic groups.) Perhaps they should form a fourth category? Rigadoun  (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sea nomads 

message: This statement "There are three kinds of nomads" seems to be contadicted by the list of other types below, including RV Lifestyle (that includes me). Some choose to be nomads as it is more interesting than staying in one place. Mobile internet makes it possible for some to work from anywhere now. EdX20 (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 types? 

message: 1. Why are new age travelers listed under Scottish travelers? 
2. I would think the population of new age travelers in the USA is higher than the UK just due to larger population, I find it hard to believe this is primarily a UK phenomena.
3. There should be a section for the Deadhead phenomena and related groups(followers of Dead spinoff bands like Phish, String Cheese, etc) under the new age traveller section, although this phenomena preceded the New Age Movement, they are somewhat related.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.101.101 (talk) 20:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New age, Deadheads 

message: Have created List of nomadic people, which includes all the lists originally in this article. --Haruth (talk) 18:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for the lists? 

message: I'm not sure why this edit is needed. The edit added a weasel words tag to a referenced sentence. It may be because the sentence attributed a statement to a whole people, but the edit summary given was "Ghorbat and Shadibaz or Baluch?" which I don't understand in the context of weasel words.
I thought the removal of the paragraph structure in this edit weakened the article by removing the link between the Mali sentence and the great lakes sentence, but after rereading it I think СЛУЖБА is right and the great lakes sentence is a separate edit which is about itinerants as a lifestyle choice in the USA. If so, since it's unreferenced and definitely not relevant to the section on sedentism, it should probably be removed entirely. This article is for nomadic peoples - there's another article for drifters. ~ Kimelea (talk) 21:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If You don't like , You can put  instead. What I meant was that I don't understand about whom the Baluch are speaking. About themselves or about Ghorbat and Shadibaz. СЛУЖБА (talk) 18:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I seeeeee. Good point. I changed it to clarification needed and stated the reason, so other editors don't get confused about weasel words as I did. That text was a copy-paste from the source (probably an issue in itself) but the source was ambiguous in the same way. I also removed the paragraph about drifters entirely. Hope this is satisfactory to you too. ~ Kimelea (talk) 19:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: I don't understand why nomads and hunter gatherers are confused into one category. Nomads are farmers who moved onto poorer lands with their animals. Hunter gatherers are not farmers. Nomads also rely on animal transportation which hunter gatherers do not use. Nomads did not exist before the invention of the wheel and axle. Before this time the steppes in Central Asia were simply not accessible to humans.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.78.85.225 (talk) 10:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomads vs hunter gatherers 

message: I do not think this term exists. If it does, it is just a tautology.
"Peripatetic" means "walking to and fro", it is basically the Greek translation of "itinerant". 
It is possible that "itinerant groups" are also known as "peripatetic groups", presumably because "itinerant" has already come to be seen as derogatory (the PC hype has accelerated the process of perfectly descriptive terms becoming taboo, so people by now need to keep making up new and increasingly artificial terms on basically a yearly basis). 
So "peripatetic group" may be posh or over-the-top PC for "itinerant group". Note the absence of the term "nomad" though, these are not "nomads", and if they are described as "nomadic", that's just due to semantic weakening of this adjective, but it's not the topic to be discussed in this article. --dab (𒁳) 10:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Peripatetic nomads"

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message: your edit here from last year seems to be original research.
This scholarly work: 
...says the opposite.
You edit also conflicts with wikt:Nomad
Onceinawhile (talk) 10:00, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Surely the saami should be an example of nomads, given their lifestyle of following the reindeer herd. They're also a relatively well known example Mr anonymous username (talk) 10:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no saami? 

message: The San had already been living in Southern Africa for a long time, possibly longer than 20 000 years. 41.114.86.96 (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before the arrival of the Dutch at the Cape in 1652,the San and the Khoi lived a semi-nomadic lifestyle in the Cape,which included hunting, gathering and farming. 

message: Ethnic group of India 122.170.159.42 (talk) 09:05, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  is rabari from India are nomads 

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thread_title:  Language 

message: 1) The hunter-gatherers lived in small societies.
2)They lived in caves or under tree-shades or rock shades.
3)In search of food,they moved from one place to place.Such people are called nomads.
4)Men,women and children participated in hunting and gathering. They shared the food with all the members of the ground. 223.196.193.34 (talk) 15:17, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social studies 

message: How can the nomadic people decrease 197.234.221.91 (talk) 18:51, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Through widespread systemic oppression of and action against nomads. Both socially (sedentary people acting with fear and/or violence) and legally through enactment of vagrancy laws, forced settlement, and forced sterilization. 2600:1005:B07C:95B4:1490:F024:5612:2652 (talk) 20:39, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomadic people 

message: In English 43.247.157.186 (talk) 07:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who were nomads 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 07:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nomad →  – the term most frequently is used ion plural, because almost always the discussion is about a group and sendom a single person. - Altenmann >talk 23:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose per WP:PLURAL, consistent consensus against using plural titles unless absolutely necessary; It's encyclopedic convention because a nomadic group is made up of individuals that can each be described as a nomad, but the inverse isn't true. Orchastrattor (talk) 01:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 December 2023