Talk:Apology Resolution

message: I thought we weren't supposed to put entire source material here in wikipedia...isn't there a different place for that? Wikipedia:Don't include copies of primary sources Seems to me that we should remove the text of the bill, post a link to it, and have the article here talk about the proponents of the legislation, the opponents, the history, the future...any objections to removing the text of the bill and linking to it? --JereKrischel 04:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we have the full text here? 

message: Some non-ancestry-based nationalist Hawaiian groups accuse Senators Akaka and Inouye of being accomplices of the U.S. in a long-term anti-Hawaiian strategy. These groups argue that the Apology Resolution is a swindle because it baselessly conflates the Hawaiian Kingdom's internationally recognised sovereignty as a nation-state with concepts like indigenous and Native Hawaiian people. They reason that citizenship in the Kingdom was not defined by ancestry; that an entire country was the victim of the conspirators' misdeeds, not merely certain individuals or groups; and that all loyal Hawaiian nationals were deprived of their right to self-determination, not just "Native" Hawaiians. They point out that it was the U.S. Congress that introduced blood quota requirements in the first place, in the Hawaiian Homelands Commission Act of 1921, over the opposition of their ancestors.
There has also been criticism of the 1993 Apology Bill, which has been used to buttress the Akaka Bill.  The Apology Bill of '93 was passed with only one hour of debate on the Senate floor with only five senators participating, three opposed (Slade Gorton, Hank Brown, John C. Danforth) and two in favor (Akaka and Inouye).  It passed the house on November 15 in less time with no debate and no objections.  Senator Inouye, wrapping up the debate, said:
"As to the matter of the status of Native Hawaiians, as my colleague from Washington knows, from the time of statehood we have been in this debate. Are Native Hawaiians Native Americans? This resolution has nothing to do with that."--Senator Inouye
The reliance upon the text of the Apology Resolution as justification for the Akaka Bill has been seen by some as contradicting Inouye's statements on the matter in 1993.
Bruce Fein has outlined many counterarguments challenging the historical accuracy and completeness of the assertions made by the Apology Bill in this PDF file (592 KB): Hawaii Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand
::How does this look, IslandGyrl? --JereKrischel 00:18, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: By George, I think we've got it—WikiLove and all that. OK, actually, we'll still have to cobble together a lot of material and make it read well, but really, I think we're on the right track. Otto von Bismarck supposedly said that people with an appetite for law or for sausage should not watch them being made, and the Apology Resolution is no exception. Look at my user sub-page, I'll put my drafts on it and y'all are even welcome to add stuff, as long as it's Wikipedic. --IslandGyrl 06:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism Rough Draft 

message: Back in September 2005 the article contained the text of the Resolution, and it was then taken out on the correct grounds that the entire text, as opposed to excepts, was inappropriate for Wikipedia. But as far as I can see there is nothing in the article now to direct the reader to a link containing the text. I think there should be. (The link in footnote 1 does contain the text of the Resolution, buried in a long POV document, but the reader of this article is not told that, and in any event it would be preferable to link to a neutral document containing the text.) Duoduoduo (talk) 23:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Text of the resolution

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