Talk:Frankie Valli

message: ... let's see if this can be cleaned up, POV removed, expanded, organized, and fully cited to the point of being an article worthy of Frankie Valli's half century of songmaking.147.70.242.40 01:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now that the issue of his birthdate ''seems'' to be "settled"... 

message: According to the liner notes in the Bear Family Records release entitled 'The Four Lovers' (BCD 15424), Peter Grendysa writes:
"...The baby of the family, Tommy DeVito (born June 19, 1928)..."
"...In 1940, older brother Nickie (born September 12, 1924)..."
"...with the older guys was Frankie Castelluccio (born May 3, 1934)..."
"...with the addition of Nick Macioci (born September 19, 1927)..."
"...the piano player for the Royal Teens (Short Shorts), Bob Gaudio (born November 17, 1942)..."
"...Bob Crewe, a producer and writer born in Belleville, New Jersey on November 12, 1931..."
Peter cites three sources, which are Walter Gollender, Bim Bam Boom No. 8, December 1972; Ed Endel, Time Barrier No. 23, August, 1977; and, Rex Woodard, Goldmine No. 73, June 1982.Bbrownlie (talk) 04:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed some errors in Frankie's biography, and Sculatti, who is proven to be reliable, says that he did not join a band until after cutting his so-called solo single in 1953. Marcus2 (talk) 01:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay.  There may be some truths and falsehoods in Valli's shady early career, but the reliable sources I've read do confirm what Sculatti has to say. Marcus2 (talk) 01:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The inconsistencies in the biography of Frankie Valli 

message: See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 06:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations & References

message: I noticed that Castelluccio is also the name of the actor who portrayed Furio Giunta
(Federico Castelluccio) in The Sopranos. I wonder if there is some connection.
156.63.68.243 (talk) 16:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Castelluccio

message: I'd like to address two recent edits:
1.  B. Wind removed what is referred to as editorializing, which I returned, concerning Frankie's falsetto.  The reason I put that in there is because I don't recall anyone, in any publication, saying as much as a few words regarding this important part of his talent and popularity.  If I continue expanding the 70s, I would further reference the use of falsetto as it is discovered, in the 70s, that his hearing issues were related to the decline in use of the falsetto and, in turn, his vocalizing. 
2.  Yes, as mentioned by more than one individual, the article is lacking sources and/or footnotes.  On one hand, it's probably easy enough to source the chart and discography information, which is the main focus of what I write.  On the other hand, time being limited (I think Mr. Gordon understands that), I think it's important to further expand the article for the years post-60s (than what appears to be a few highlights), and, then deal with the source material issue.  Bbrownlie (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Edits

message: Lots and lots of plagiarism in this article. Slater79 (talk) 18:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism

message: I know that Frankie Valli recorded My Mother's Eyes in 1953 under the name Frankie Valley. I would like to know how I can get a copy of that recording.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gcb717 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: My Mother's Eyes

message: I know I'm not perfect, but these recent attempts to change the body of the section entitled 1950s-1960s is very hard to take.  Most of what is being posted seems to be entire sections of direct quotes from Frankie Valli's Universal Records web site without any credit given.  I would ask that this individual stop this activity and leave the article alone.  I take seriously the critiques (and praise) I have been given in regards to my own postings because I'd like to follow the standards if only for the purpose of sharing my knowledge and enhancing my writing skills.  Thank you.    Bbrownlie (talk) 23:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Edits by an Anonymous Individual

message: I personally don't care what year Frankie was born.  We saw him Friday (10/17/2008) night with the Houston Symphony Orchestra and he had the place rockin'!  He gave away a CD to a member of the audience and later signed it.  During the last song, he went all the way across the front of the stage shaking hands with everyone in the front rows.  He seemed to be having a great time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crafty64 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frankie Valli 

message: Hi Frankie, I've been a fan since the early 60s!!!  The 1st time I saw you in person was on a date @ The Waldorf Astoria!!! Of course, you were with The Four Seasons @ the time!!!  You were FABULOUS!!!  I've seen you in concerts since & you NEVER disappoint!!!  My husband & I saw "Jersey Boys" twice & plan on taking our granddaughters to see it again... They're 13 & 15 & are VERY familiar with your music because of us & Grease... I'm very dear old friends with Linda November... We've known each other from way back in Brooklyn, N.Y.. We went to J.H.S. & H.S. together!!!  I ALWAYS knew she'd be a SUCCESS!!! She was born to sing!!! She's quite the talent!!!  Was so proud when she wrote & sang the MEOW, MEOW jingle!!!  I was hoping to friend you on FB but you're not on it... Hope to hear from you... Take care & continued success... Sincerely, Helene Weiner Hill...;)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.38.196 (talk) 00:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Helene, this is not the place to contact Frankie Valli; this is a talk page for improving his Wikipedia article. Graham87 01:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE MUTUAL FRIENDS 

message: I have made significant changes to this article. If any of you are opposed to these changes, please let me know via this talk page or mine. Thank you. Classicalfan2 (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work. But why did you remove the birth date and age template? I've put it back, pending an explanation, as it's standard in most biographical infoboxes. I've also changed his mother's name from "Mary" back to "Maria" per the cited source, but if you have a more authoritative reference, feel free to undo that edit, naturally. I don't know much about Frankie Valli; the article is only on my watchlist because I too did some work to clean it up about eighteen months ago. Graham87 14:06, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work. I was just thinking that it's not all that important to note someone's age in an encyclopedia article. And, according to numerous sources, Frankie's mother is Mary rather than Maria. Allmusic's William Ruhlmann is full of untruths and questionable information when it comes to things like Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons. I think you are a fair, good-faith Wikipedian. Thank you, keep up the good work, and I'll await your response. Classicalfan2 (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I've changed it to Mary, and added a source. Graham87 03:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  In the Sydney Sun Herald (July 18, 2010), the name is listed as Maria. The Times (Trenton) says Mary. Star-Ledger says Mary, as does the New York Post.  My guess is that if we want to refer to her name at the time of Frankie's birth, she was the Italian-born Maria, but as she got older in the U.S., she changed it to Mary.  Since there's confusion on the matter, I'll see if I can reach out to Frankie himself (I know someone who knows him) and see if he has any preference. --Elonka 15:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  For the record, Frankie Valli says that her name was Mary, maiden name Rinaldi.  So there we go!  --Elonka 18:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I think his recurring role as Rusty Millio in several episodes of seasons 5 and 6 should be mentioned here. First appears in All Happy Families... but there was a reference to him (as himself) in season 4, about Tony getting him to perform at that Native American casino whose manager tried to mediate the Columbus Day protests. -A98 98.92.188.120 (talk) 11:05, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sopranos 

message: It is very well known that Frankie was born in Newark, New Jersey. He, also, started performing while living in Newark. There is no indication that Frankie would have been considered to be from Belleville, New Jersey in any form.Bbrownlie (talk) 19:13, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fields for 'Born' and 'Origin' 

message: Guys, instead of edit warring would it not be better to discuss the correct form of album titles here?--Egghead06 (talk) 15:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one think standard English capitalization should be used, as that's what Wikipedia generally prefers. Graham87 02:29, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Album titles

message: Hi everybody Wikifellows, I'm Saiyuki4ever and I was asking to myself if Frankie Valli has ever been a member of the Four Lovers, The Four Seasons previous incarnation from 1956 to 1960.... If so, it has to be put in the template. Waiting your answers, I wish you all a good surfing on the Wikipedia.
                                                                                                  ===Saiyuki4ever=== Saiyuki4ever (talk) 22:31, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he was in the Four Lovers. See http://www.frankievallifourseasons.com/bio.html
 Peter K Burian (talk) 22:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And that is mentioned in the Franki Valli article under the relvant years. Peter K Burian (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four Lovers  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Valli has said his real name is Francis, and he has also said Francesco. Perhaps his given name is Francis but he said Francesco too since he's of Italian descent and that's the Italian version of Francis?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.252.228.3 (talk) 18:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Francis or Francesco? 

message: I repunctuated an elliptical expression from being delimited by commas, into dashes, pretty much because there were enough nearby commas to make the phrasal syntax confusing.—2601:199:C201:FD70:9C34:6D48:7EC7:B307 (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  commas to dashes