Talk:Lacing (drugs)

message: I'm unsure if the CEASER citation for the use of formaldehyde to adulterate cannabis suffices for me. For one, besides this link, I can't find any other information. For two, the page doesn't cite it's sources on the formaldehyde part. I have sent an email to CEASER to ask them where they got their information on this. It would appear to be misinformation, perhaps a product of regan-era propaganda.
Also, the cite doesn't even seem to state this formaldehyde is for increasing the weight of the cannabis, but rather that it's for additional effects. This, obviously, is wrong. Formaldehyde has no psychoactive effects, none.
The confusion seems to lie in the fact that "embalming fluid" and "formaldehyde" are also common street names for phencyclidine (PCP).
If formaldehyde ever has been used in such a way, it was more than likely the unfortunate mistake of someone who didn't realize the "formaldehyde" they'd heard of used was actually PCP.
67.158.68.251 (talk) 19:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Formaldehyde

message: The article is quite POV, has lots of weasel words and does cite any references. We should add more references and remove the POV parts. Any suggestions? -- Panoramix303 (talk) 17:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvements

message: This article has very large sections that are written unprofessionally, and contain unsubstantiated claims.  I also expect to find an edit war happening soon.  I would like to suggest that editing privileges for this article be locked unregistered guests.Fireemblem555 (talk) 07:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candidate for Locking 

message: I do not think it is correct to use the term "most notable" when describing the sale of fentanyl as heroin.  Fentanyl is rarely sold as heroin, and when it is it almost always makes the news due to the high number of deaths.  I will rephrase it to be more appropriate for wikipedia.Fireemblem555 (talk) 07:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fentanyl in Heroin 

message: I could find no evidence to suggest that formaldehyde is frequently used to lace PCP, the most I found was an isolated incident in a single area.Fireemblem555 (talk) 07:45, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formaldehyde in PCP 

message: I did some editing to make the test kits section neutral, and I also removed a statement referring to MDMA as a closely related chemical to ecstasy, as MDMA is the active ingredient in Ecstasy.Fireemblem555 (talk) 07:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Test Kits 

message: I created a small reasons for lacing section to replace the unverifiable section that was found above.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireemblem555 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Created a whole new introduction 

message: I had to research the topic recently, and found that there were extensive discussions on German forums. Not an ideal source, but as it seems there is much "expert" knowledge at hand, at least within the scope of the article (which might at the most basic simply list adulterants and provide a small explanation if necessary). Following the discussions (e.g. http://forum.hanfburg.de/fhb/showthread.php?t=251098]) since 2007, it seems that in Central Europe at least (i.e. the Dutch-supplied market) Cannabis adulterants are by no means rare and may occasionally achieve market saturation thesde days.
Most commonly mentioned are:
* talc
* fine sand/grit
* ground glass
* lead sulfide(?)/lead acetate (presumablyLead(II) acetate; has hospitalised some already; you may try news.google.de searching Blei + Haschisch/Marihuana/Cannabis, I think I once saw a report on German Yahoo News.)
* birdshot (Cannabis-seed sized, also seems to have poisoned some people)
* sucrose solution
* hair spray
* Brix+ (basically a hi-tech variant of the preceding two. Marketed as an "organic" yield enhancer , but clearly designed to give a heavy sugar-coat or increased sugar content - hence the name - and coat this with some plastic polymer to hide it and give more realistic "resin" crystals)
Don't know if this is usable, but for discussing illegitimate practices performed with an illict substance, I'm not sure a quality peer-reviewed source is available. there might be books on drug adulterations, but as it seems adulteration of Cannabis is increasing in extend and sophistication.
See also this impressive document. Mentions the London market having "suffered tremendously with sweetbud and gritweed" - sucrose and grit adulterations as it seems. The stuff documented seems to be Brix+ed, judging from that stuff's ingredient list and my chemistry classes, and from the fact that it is not "sweetbud". See also here:  Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cannabis adulterants

message: The assertion that methamphetamine laced cannabis is found in British Columbia is quite possibly propaganda built out of self-reporting addicts/psych patients claiming they've only had pot but testing positive for meth (obviously, they are likely just lying). As far as I've been able to see, there's no material evidence whatsoever in BC or elsewhere of laced methamphetamine cannabis other than the hyperbolic article cited which is essentially a police press release.
The reason given for this lacing is to create addiction, but freebasing meth would not go unnoticed by a cannabis smoker whether by taste, effect, or duration. This would lead to significant backlash against a 'pot dealer' and not people coming back for something that many people already are happy to buy regularly. The premise is just absurd!  I think the claim should be removed unless there's better evidence. 
76.115.123.180 (talk) 23:09, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Meth-Cannabis Assertion is Highly Questionable

message: Does laced marijuana harm brain? In india its laced with battery water Amitanshu123 (talk) 09:38, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laced marijuana 

message: The article should be clearer about lacing (adding active ingredients to produce a different effect) versus cutting (adding inactive ingredients to "stretch" the drug) -- the examples include examples of both. pne (talk) 14:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lacing versus cutting 

message: Support the August proposal to merge Cutting agent to here. Synonyms, best discussed in one placed, particularly given the poor referencing of cutting agent . Klbrain (talk) 17:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Klbrain (talk) 12:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal