Talk:Capra (genus)

message: The odour (and taste) of any milk is mainly dependent on what the animals eat.  It's incorrect to suggest that goat milk contains an odour that is not present in other milk.  As any dairy farmer will tell you -- if your animals eat a bunch of weeds (or other stuff they're not supposed to be in to) you can expect weird smelling/tasting milk.  This is equally true of Cows milk.
The commercial goat milk I've drank is usually indistinguishable from that of cows milk.  As for farm milk -- well -- that depends entirely on how well regulated the goats' food is.   --Animus9 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true. I had goat milk at a farmer's and they had also cream made from another batch of milk. The cream had a strongish taste, I did not like it. The milk, OTOH, was like fresh cow's milk, only richer, and kind of thicker. Dysmorodrepanis 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goat Milk 

message: I was told by someone, probably old wives' tale that snakes hate the smell of goats and don't dare come near the presence of goat/s. Is this true? If yes, is it verifiable to be put in wikipedia?--Idleguy 04:11, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
: Not to the best of my knowledge -- nor have I ever observed this to be true.  --142.161.206.85 17:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to be based on the idea that the markhor (which reputedly means "snake eater" in Persian) eats snakes. Needless to say, this is quite unlikely for a herbivore, but it seems well-entrenched (killing snakes by trampling is another matter). Whatever the reason, the roots of the idea that goats are arch-enemies of snakes seem to lie there, and this likely inspired the stories of snakes hating goat smell (which are probably not supported by any scientific observations). JRM · Talk 18:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it true that snakes hate goat smell? 

message: Alright seriously, who goes online and repeatedly vandalizes an article about goats? Why would you do that? I swear, 15-year-olds should not be allowed to use the internet. Pulsemeat
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re: "Goats are the only animals with an innate sense of democracy. That's why they're sometimes referred to as "nature's president"
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 I question the appropriateness of this sentence in a reference work without stronger reasoning or a cited source. It is an extraordinary claim and frivilous, in my opinion. By definition democracy is a human pursuit and at best, goats live in a heirarchy with the alphas gaining their position by strength and agression. I will cut this sentence out unless someone says otherwise or can help me see the light!
Whoever the person is that wrote the sentence above,
needs to learn to use breaks in there response.  Pattyman 00:36, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Did you know goats are kosher? (Especially if they've been baa mitzvah'd)  Trekphiler 17:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Together with milk, they're not... 惑乱 分からん 18:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kosherific 

message: The animal most commonly known as a "YARON" the domestic goat 
What would this mean? Is it vandalism? 惑乱 分からん 18:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yaron?

message: why not come along and meet Beryl the goat taking the world by storm 
fun filled goat facts and pictures and discussions about anything farm related
just point your browser to http://www.berylthegoat.co.uk  you wont be sorry ;)    goats suck man form hilary duff
:This is just a run-of-the-mill bulletin board having nothing to do with goats. LambiamTalk 07:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beryl The Goat 

message: I moved Goat to Capra (genus) to fill a void left by Capra having been made a disambiguation page with a redlink Capra (genus). While not ideal, I thought this was the best quick solution among several, a main rationale being that the article as it stands has mainly the Capra genus as its topic. I feel, though, that the (domestic) goat deserves an article on its own. For that reason I did not adjust any Goat links; what is a redirect now could become a direct tomorrow. LambiamTalk 07:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goat deserves a separate article  

message: Taxonomy is in need of a more thorough dicussion. While the picture-table approach is nice, it tends to make the page hard to read, layout-wise. Try Mol.Phyl.Evol.40:739–749 for a very interesting paper on taxonomy. Dysmorodrepanis 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taxonomy

message: I think we should use the term Goats or Wild goats for this article and perhaps call the Goat article Domestic goat. What do you think about that?--Altaileopard (talk) 15:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of the article 

message: This article (Capra (genus)) covers almost exactly the same subject as (Ibex).  I propose they are merged into the Capra one.  Any thoughts?  Richard New Forest (talk) 20:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No comments after a couple of months: any objections if I merge the articles?  Richard New Forest (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Still no comments, so merge done.  Richard New Forest (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:   I see you went ahead with this merge.  Although I am not goat expert, and while the content on Capra may have been very similar to that under Ibex, I recently tried to visit the article on Ibexes, and was brought, surprisingly, to the one on Capra, where I then had to look for information on actual ibexes...  Wikipedia really shouldn't be organized that way.  If "ibex" is a legitimately separate topic from that of "goat", then it needs to have a separate namespace under "ibex".  I am going to have a look at the old ibex article and will share some more thoughts with you then.  A loose noose (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

text: Okay, I've had my look.  The article on Ibexes was very different from the current one on Capra, and I really think the redirect needs to be undone so that the topics are under different namespaces.  I am going to try to implement this change and see if I can do it. A loose noose (talk) 00:46, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if you realised, but my merge was nearly ten years ago, and the situation has been stable since.  The Ibex article which you have resurrected still covers almost exactly the same ground as Capra.  At the moment I can't see any good reason to separate them, as all the species of Capra are wild goats with the only exception being the domesticated form of C aegagrus.  Therefore the only distinction between ibexes and other wild goats is the use of the word "ibex".  As per WP:NOTDICT (see particularly the very first of the listed major items), WP articles are about things, not the words used to describe them.  Can you think of any more substantial reason to keep the two articles separate?  (Please also see my message on your talk page.)  Richard New Forest (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merge

message: In the list and in the text the East Caucasian Tur is listed as a subspecies of the West Caucasian Tur. In another part of the text and the table it's listed as a distinct species.Capra walie (talk) 01:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictions 

message: <<Today, nine species are usually accepted>>
But there is 10 species listed just under. Is that intended ? Gimly24 (talk) 15:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't get this ?