Talk:John Howard Lindauer

message: I removed this external link and also removed some unsourced material. --Tom 21:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Find a grave for father?

message: He was born on November 20, 1937 to Louise (1905–c.2004) and John Howard Lindauer I (1905–1954) in Montclair, New Jersey. He attended North Phoenix High School from 1951 to 1954 and Arizona State University from 1958 to 1960 where he received a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. He later attended Oklahoma State University from 1960 to 1964 where he received a Ph.D. in Economics. He served in the US Army for three years and spent five years in the Army Reserve. He then moved to Alaska and served as Chancellor for the University of Alaska Anchorage from 1976 to 1978 then was Dean of the School of Business and Public Affairs. He served as a Pipeline Commissioner, and later worked at the Alaska Post-Secondary Education Commission. With his wife, Jacqueline Lindauer, he was the co-publisher of Alaska Rural Newspapers which published ten newspapers; and president of Denali Broadcasting and the Alaska Radio Network which owns five radio stations. He was the Fulbright Professor of Economics in India.
In 1982 he won a seat for District 10 in the Alaska House of Representatives. He was a member of the House Finance Committee.
In 1990, he was the Alaska Independence Party's gubernatorial nominee and he abruptly withdrew from the campaign, purportedly after the illness of his first wife, Jackie (1932–1992). In 1998 he ran for Governor of Alaska and received 18% of the vote. Tony Knowles won with 51% and Robin Taylor, a Republican Party write-in candidate split the vote when he received 20%. He spent more than $1.7 million., and Lindauer denied it had come from Dorothy A. Oremus, the wealthy Chicago lawyer he married in 1995. Dorothy is the daughter of John A. Oremus (1913–2002) and Angeline Mularski (1916–1983) and she is a partner in the law firm of Hamblet, Oremus & Little. on his campaign. As the investigation grew, Lindauer admitted that Dorothy had guaranteed a loan and given him cash to pay for the bulk of his campaign.
I have removed a large swatch of sourced information, per this OTRS ticket. Without going into too much detail (as forbidden by the privacy policy), I can say that there have been claims that the sources here are not of the highest caliber and are contradicted by other ones. Either way, some more investigation should be done and more sources should be gathered before deciding whether or not the information should go back in. NW (Talk) 00:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest we remove it form here as well, it's no more appropriate here than in the article. Lindauer is not especially happy right now, for obvious reasons. Guy (Help!) 20:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the thing. Lindauer committed campaign financing fraud, and he withdrew from the race and split it with a writein candidate. People here in Alaska have been comparing our current senate candidates behavior with that of the gubenatorial candidate Lindauer. I do not personally know exactly how the fraud occured (if there was a lawyer named dorthy that he married or what) but I do know that he resigned his position over the fraud. I think that this information is being taken down because the Senate candidates supporters find it inconvenient for people to be able to easily find out about lindauer. I cannot access that complaint, but taking down this information is kinda like letting the fox have the run of the hen house. I think that someone should find another RS that says that the story on the WP page is not true, rather than just hiding the truth on the eve of an election. --Opcnup (talk) 00:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you find multiple RS that indicate that that Lindauer committed fraud, preferably both from current and recent sources, that indicate what happened (not just that he was charged)? If so, the information could be rewritten back in, but a single short article, even from The New York Times, is not enough when the OTRS ticket is taken into account. NW (Talk) 01:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What does OTRS stand for? If you google John Lindauer Alaska Fraud you can find plenty of articles that talk about it. I've personally heard the story with my own ears in person from Lisa Murkowski, Rick Rydell(who I believe is an wp:rs in his show, where I've also heard it) and Don Young as well as some non-notables, and hearing it on the radio and seeing it on the television. I think you were scammed. Looking at what google kicked back 1234and " John Lindauer, owned newspapers in Alaska and was the Republican nominee for governor there in 1998. He was defeated and later pleaded no contest to two charges stemming from campaign finance problems related to the campaign. He received a one-year suspended sentence, two years of probation and a $15,000 fine." I'm not a great researcher, but I know that John Lindauer did those things, so I know that whoever pushed the complaint is just trying to hide the truth. The election is over however, so they were successful to a degree, so I don't care that much from here on in. --Opcnup (talk) 08:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Actually, the State of Alaska is required to publish an election pamphlet for each general election, and has been required to do so since the statute was enacted in 1974.  There is no requirement that any candidate participate in being included, or submit a resume or any other thing of that sort.  The only thing required of candidates is a declaration of candidacy and financial disclosure paperwork.  The former does contain vital information on candidates, but is not really publicly disseminated.RadioKAOS (talk) 23:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Large removal

message: Lindauer did have another child who wasn't a media celebrity like Susan, and who isn't mentioned in the infobox, much less anywhere else in the article.  Lindauer, in his 1982 campaign profile, lists him as "John, Jr."  I wasn't sure how to portray this, since Lindauer himself obviously isn't a "Sr."  Any help would be appreciated.RadioKAOS (talk) 23:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: More on this.  I blanked the section entitled "Daughter".  There is an ongoing debate regarding Susan Lindauer's notability, specifically focused on how Wikipedia is providing advocacy for someone's legal issues more than we're reporting on a notable person.  The "Daughter" section in this article appears to be an attempt to circumvent that discussion, namely by coatracking her questionable notability onto the article of her father, who is inherently notable on several counts.  Additionally, John Lindauer also had a wife and a son.  Not only is it customary to mention such information, but typically in a "Personal life" section, rather than a section entitled "Daughter" which only mentions someone known for a somewhat laughable 15 minutes of fame.  Susan Lindauer is nowhere near as important to the context of John Lindauer (which is, after all, what this article is about) than Jackie Lindauer (or Dorothy Oremus, for that matter).  It's undue weight, plain and simple. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  02:32, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Children