Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 7

message: Except by direct search, incoming users looking for gaming articles would follow this path:
:Main_Page
::Article overviews
:::Entertainment - Game - Types of games
::::Computer and video games - See also
:::::List_of_gaming_topics
But is the list current enough? Should we edit the article to also point to :Category:Computer and video games as well? Especially since we are cleaning up the categorization somewhat? * wants incoming users to be able to find all the great gaming articles * -- Sitearm | Talk 07:02, 2005 August 22 (UTC)
:Redirecting to a category is probably not a good idea. Why not just update the List of gaming topics article? K1Bond007 07:49, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
::Didn't mean to redirect but to include link to category page. Regarding list have you looked at it :) -- Sitearm | Talk 07:55, 2005 August 22 (UTC)
Done. Here are the current paths from main page to cvg articles:
Access by category:
  Main_Page
    :Category:Culture
      :Category:Games
        :Category:Computer and video games 
      :Category:Entertainment
        :Category:Computer and video games
    :Category:Personal life
      :Category:Games
        :Category:Computer and video games 
      :Category:Entertainment
        :Category:Computer and video games
Access by article:
  Main_Page
    Wikipedia:Browse by overview (called "Article overviews")
      Game - (listed in section "Entertainment")
        Computer and video games - (listed in section "Types of games")
Access by browse:
  Main_Page
    Wikipedia:Browse (called "Browse Wikipedia")
      Portal:Computer and video games - (listed in section "Culture" subsection "Sports and games")
-- Sitearm | Talk 16:57, 2005 August 28 (UTC)
:Or:
::Main_Page
:::Wikipedia:Browse
::::Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Computer and video games
:Jacoplane 21:38, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way to show available gaming articles to incoming users? 

message: I've created a noticeboard for this project. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer and video games/Peer review and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer and video games/Noticeboard for more. ^_^ Cookiecaper 02:46, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I've created a noticeboard 

message: Btw, a different question: how do I join this project? I spend most of my time on Wikipedia improving video game articles anyway. I did a lot of work on the Sonic the Hedgehog series and currently I'm writing articles in the Shinobi series. Do I just put my name under contributors? --Steerpike 12:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just go to the project page and put your name in alphabetical order. Thunderbrand 14:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I join? 

message: Now that it is possible to add optional fields to the infobox, I was thinking it might be an idea to add a sales figures field to the box. I can't find a reliable source for such figures however, surely one must exist. On the List of best selling computer and video games I think figures from NPD Funworld are used. However, as far as I can tell they only cover North America. Does anyone know of a better source? I think this information really belongs in an Encyclopedia article. Jacoplane 14:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure about this. It's almost impossible to find accurate (and reliable) sources for video games' sales figures, and even the ones we can find are disputable. Usually only sales of the really popular video games are known, but even then... The page of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 lists the game as the best-selling Genesis game of all time but I have yet to find a reliable source to back this claim with exact numbers. They say even Sega doesn't know the figures. Anyway, just my 2 cents. --Steerpike 15:28, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What's wrong with just saying the sales figures in the article? Thunderbrand 17:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox sales figures 

message: List of Metal Gear characters.  Someone merged all of them without asking. --Dangerous-Boy 11:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And Talk:List of Metal Gear characters has a great deal of discussion of that topic, including the current plan to clean the entries up and split them into sublists. The discussion is ongoing. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 17:17, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  what the hell happened to the metal gear characters?! 

message: Some guy wants delete the samples on the OST's page.  See Talk page. --Dangerous-Boy 21:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The samples are now up for deletion. --Dangerous-Boy 17:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged them with  and removed the old ifd notices, I could find no reference to them in the deletion logs. (I know I voted, but it ain't there anymore). Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Metal Gear Solid Original Game Soundtrack]] 

message: There is an ongoing discussion about a merger at Talk:Xbox 360 screen of death. Comments would be much appreciated. --anetode¹ ² ³ 01:13, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Xbox 360 screen of death]] 

message: Does this wikiproject have notability guidelines established?  It would be helpful to have in order to vote on deletion or policy, for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonic: Time Attacked 2. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability Guidelines 

message: I noticed your head page labels the anime games category as strictly for games based on anime or manga titles. There are a bunch of pages floating around that are getting lumped into the anime games category that have nothing to do with anime but use a stereotyped art style, particularly ren'ai games.  Use of "anime" to refer to an art style is slang, which doesn't really make Wikipedia look professional. Should these games be moved back to the simulation category where they originally were? Alcy 00:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if the category is named "Anime games" it's simply open to broad interpretations. If the category is strictly for games based on series (say, Jump Superstars), then "Games based on anime series" would be more appropriate, while also having a "Games influenced by anime and manga" category for the ones purely inspired by the style (like Oni). wS;✉ 11:57, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems way too open to interpretations. Anime can have any art style, not just those influenced by Walt Disney's large-eyed characters, even if they are common. Maybe we should have a category for games licensed as merchandise from other series/things and put the games currently in the anime category in their actual genres. Alcy 22:14, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

text: For clarity, are we talking about :Category:Anime games? What's wrong with placing things like Dragon Ball Z games here? These titles belong here as far as I can tell, though I don't know what "ren'ai" is. Could you give an example of an article you feel doesn't belong in this category? Jacoplane 22:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any problem with putting Dragon Ball Z games in the anime games category because those are actually based on an anime title. Ren'ai games, for all practical purposes, are dating sims, a fairly wide genre. Most are not tied with anime titles, yet because many use art styles stereotyped as "anime", are getting thrown into the anime games category. Free Talk Studio ~Mari no Kimama na O-Shaberi~, for example, is not related to any anime, yet was moved into the anime games category. I don't see how it is relevant, and could easily mislead people. Maybe we could have a new category for ren'ai games, since those are getting hit the hardest with this issue? As far as the games that actually are anime games, while their current location is okay, I think they should be put in multiple categories instead of just anime games (where many are), as it doesn't say much about the content of the game. Dual categorization would be ideal-Anime/Role-playing, Anime/Fighting, Anime/Simulation, and so forth. Alcy 02:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anime game category conflicts 

message: Salutations. I was on user Thunderbrand's page a while ago, when i noticed he was a member of this "posse" on his userpage. Naturally, as a user that has made numerous projects and edits for video games, I was just wondering- Can i join your club..?-MegamanZero 22:43 20, November 2005 (UTC)
On second thought, allow me to rephrase that statement: May I become a participant of the WikiProject Computer and video games community..?-MegamanZero 22:49 20, November 2005 (UTC)
:Just add your name to the participants. This isn't a club. It's more like an internal community of the Wikipedia community devoted to improving video game articles. We need to really make a statement about this. We get questions like this all the time. K1Bond007 22:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Club 

message: I believe the Parasite Eve article could use some more elaboration- I plan to add a page on the Ultimate being, terms for Neo Midocondrian cretures (and they're articficial counterparts). What do you think of that idea..? Also, can we get someone well versed in the game to elaborate more on the story in PE2..? That section seems like a stub. Finally, I posted a few questons on Aya Brea's talk page- culd we get someone well versed in the events of the game(s) to answer them..? Please get back to me on my talkpage-MegmanZero 5:40 21, November 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know this game specifically, but it seems to me that rather than writing more detail on the specific creatures in the game, more should be written about the gameplay itself. Jacoplane 15:22, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parasite Eve 

message: Hi, I'm new to this project and want to contribute as much as possible.  I was wondering if an older member could tell me if it's okay to put boss strategies in the game as long as it isn't very much strategy and I don't give too much away.  Can someone please fill me in?
--Dtm142 22:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boss battles 

message: It seems that the Template:anime-cvg-stub used to have the icon . Now it's reverted to the more generic console controller and the Shiori icon image is scheduled to be deleted. Is there a reason not to use the image on that stub template? It adds a lot more flavour than a generic controller (which is inaccurate for many anime games anyway). Shiori from Tokimeki Memorial is one of the most recognisable and archetypal anime game images, and I'd be in favour of using her icon as a representation of anime games in the stub template. Can anyone (especially whoever inserted the generic controller) comment on this? --AlexChurchill 11:58, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a free image. Fair use of such an image would be allowed in the article on that particular anime, but not as a generic image to be used throughout wikipedia. Jacoplane 13:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I changed it because wikipedia has a policy against using non-free images in templates. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be really cool if someone made a nice png/svg anime character icon and put it in the wikimedia commons for us to use! (hint hint!) Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I prefer the generic cvg controller icon over the anime one.  Boring as I might be, I think it makes it look more professional. - Hahnchen 18:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image for anime games template stub 

message: I'm inquiring about PE again, since it seems no one noticed my last request above...Does anyone here know about the analytical aspects of Parasite Eve....? Or at least played the two video games..?-MegamanZero
:I've played and beaten them both, though not recently (and I sold my copy of PE2). Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:51, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parasite Eve...again