Talk:Jet lag

message: The lede gives "desynchronosis", I can recall reading about this in Scientific American in the mid 1970s, they used the term "Circadian Dysrhythmia". Is that term no longer fashionable?
121.217.97.126 (talk) 09:34, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical Name? 

message: The Direction of Travel section is inconsistent and not well referenced. Quoting:
:North-south flights that do not cross time zones do not cause jet lag. Adjustment to the new time zone is easier for west-to-east travel than east-to-west. Adjusting to the new time zone takes, in days, approximately two-thirds the number of time zones crossed for eastward travel. A westward flight takes approximately half the number of time zones crossed.
The second sentence states that timezone adjustment is easier on east-bound travel - it gives no refernce. The third & fourth sentences state that less days are needed for adjustment for west-bound travel - this is in accordance with Waterhouse et al. reference. The second sentence should be corrected. -- 69.11.119.31 (talk) 11:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direction of travel 

message: I reverted the addition of a jet lag calculator the other day.  I see a couple issues with it.  First, it aims to give advice, which is inappropriate for wikipedia (particularly medical advice).  It is not clear if this is a medically reliable source, if it has gone through any sort of peer review (though the editor who added the link said on my talk page they were a physician).  The calculator also advises the use of melatonin, which the page itself states is not universally accepted as effective and/or useful.  Overall, this looks like a personal project, one which may be valid and effective, but still one that doesn't meet our requirements for reliable sources or external links, as well as the problem of it giving advice.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 19:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation above.  The calculator is a personal project, like you mention, and it does aim to give advice (it's in the title). But, it should not constitute medical advice since there is no prescription medicine component to it (melatonin and bright lights are available over-the-counter).  The calculator was peer-reviewed at the medical institution where I work, and will be submitted for external review in the coming months.  If the calculator is published by an independent, reputable journal, on the web, is there a way for it to pass the "advice" hurdle? Temperzee (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Melatonin is not available over the counter in all countries, in fact I think it is explicitly illegal in some.  If published in a peer-reviewed journal, it could probably be used as a source on the page, however a static journal article is not appropriate as a external link.  You could always request advice at the external links noticeboard, you may find a different opinion than mine or some insights into the process to produce a webpage that is suitable as an EL.  Or perhaps not.  You may want to try including it at the DMOZ (off-wikipedia), particularly since there is an existing page and the calculator on it is currently a redirect to a site selling light therapy machines.  Though even then I'm ill-inclined to link to the DMOZ page here, since it includes a link to a bullshit homeopathic remedy, some specious diet advice and really nothing appropriately reliable.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 19:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: This article had got a bit too technical, and was short of practical information for travellers.  While mindful of the desire not to give medical advice, there was useful practical information explaining when to go outside in the articles linked from wikipedia which I felt should be presented in a clear and simple way for those poor jetlagged individuals (like me).  I needed to find this two days ago, and it was buried deep in an academic article.  I created two more subsections "Management after travelling East" and "Management after travelling West" in the Management section. Andy Henson. 82.152.115.137 (talk) 11:42, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with adding such information is that Wikipedia is not a how-to --Ronz (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Management after travelling East (added) 

message: are too old. There's been lots of research and new findings since they were written.  Newer ones should be found.  --Hordaland (talk) 21:35, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The three Waterhouse references  

message: There are references on the web that higher in flight pressure is correlated with lesser jet lag symptoms, but the article contains no mention of this. Medical News Today article JohnnyJet article Yurivict (talk) 08:25, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jet lag is aggravated by the lower cabin pressure? 

message: twice now, and I don't want to get into 3RR territory.  Link.  Looks like it might be advertising or non-RS.  It's atm down for "maintenance".  My last edit summary asks the IP to defend it here on the "Talk" page.  --Hordaland (talk) 17:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm.  It's still (or again) down for maintenance.  Can be ignored.  --Hordaland (talk) 15:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I've reverted this 'External link' 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Someone should link jet lag with Delayed sleep phase disorder, which is a chronical type of Jet lag.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurorebel (talk • contribs) 00:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delayed sleep phase disorder 

message: It might be fun to expand this article with information about jet lag in racehorses.  I haven't found the perfect source yet, but there has been some research on the subject.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horses 

message: Can’t sleep 2A00:23C5:F380:AC01:7CBB:F5A7:1575:4E93 (talk) 20:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jet lag 

message: How do we know for a fact that jet lag is caused by disturbing the circadian rhythms and that it is not a product of Einstein relativity? I've felt jet lag going from West to East across the ocean, I've had disturbed circadian rhythms before. It didn't feel like a circadian rhythm experience, it felt like something different. 50.47.109.128 (talk) 03:27, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  circadian rhythms or relativity? 

message: The diet works.  Most legible online description is at https://www.netlib.org/misc/jet-lag-diet. The creator of the diet, Charles Ehret, coauthored a book: Overcoming Jet Lag by Charles F. Ehret and Lynne W. Scanlon, revised as The Cure for Jet Lag.
Open Library has the first of these in a German translation, at https://openlibrary.org/works/OL24207134W/Wie_die_Zeit_im_Flug_vergeht, if that helps.  Original research, also well attested by various authors in reputable publications: I've used it a couple of times traveling overseas and it worked.  It's harder to sustain the discipline on return, though.
Try to put it in the Management section, please. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 19:29, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argonne National Laboratory Anti-Jet-Lag Diet