Talk:Council for the National Interest

message: Hearing no objections I'm going to archive all this old 2006 material. CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Archiving

message: *There are lots of quotes from Findlay around, don't need quotes from a difficult to download (I'm trying now) video. I'll replace them when I get a chance. 
*Plus it really should be quotes from different leaders of the group. 
*Plus article needs a general update.
*Plus many CNI links not working; emailed them to see if it is a temporary glitch. Maybe they just are too old. CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Video quotes/updating

message: I'm in middle of updating this. Found a bunch of good WP:RS. See Edit Summaries to see what doing and why. Will return tomorrow and do some more/hopefully finish. Thanks. CarolMooreDC (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Note on current edits

message: This diff is an interesting case of when an assertion by an individual has later discussion/back and forth by others without mentioning that person. I'm really not sure of relevant policy under WP:BLP and probably won't have time, energy, to check til tomorrow, but throwing that out in case anyone has a link to a policy page that clarifies the point. Also, in the 8 odd years since the last reference, there may have been more information revealed about this, including regarding Bird's comments. So research also my clarify what to do. Will look at soon. CarolMooreDC 17:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Bird assertion needs WP:BLP clarification and updated research

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message: See . On this little article you can try to get away with this silliness, but go try it at the West Bank article, which has a section called "consequences of occupation". 
The lead states: "The International Court of Justice advisory ruling (2004) concluded that events that came after the 1967 occupation of the West Bank by Israel, including the Jerusalem Law, Israel's peace treaty with Jordan and the Oslo Accords, did not change the status of the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) as occupied territory with Israel as the occupying power." with two citations. The rest of the article contains dozens more. 
"Disputed" is mentioned in the West Bank article, but only to present Israel's viewpoint. Which is POV, of course. It is fine to include POV in an article, attributed to the speaker, and in the proper context and with due weight. But it is not appropriate to use "disputed" in the article's voice in one sentence without context. The West Bank is clearly occupied, legally and practically. Yes, hasbarists say "Judea and Samaria" is "disputed", but you don't get to include that in an article unattributed. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 05:49, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted to the last version before 173.54.143.149's edits. There was a lot of other stuff in that first edit that I didn't see before. Please gain consensus for any further controversial edits. Or you can try Wikipedia:Third opinion. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 01:40, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

text: First, find some sources. Then propose changes on this page. Unilateral, controversial, unsourced edits will continue to be reverted. See the third opinion option above if you would like to use dispute resolution.  - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 00:17, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Request for a third opinion is filed. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 03:04, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Bank "occupied" vs. "disputed"