Talk:Allied plans for German industry after World War II

message: :"By 1949 the West Germans had become confident enough to mount increasing protests against the ongoing Allied policy of factory dismantling. The Western Allies, the U.S., France, and the UK finally had to halt dismantling in 1950.  "
I have removed this paragraph because it seems incorrect to me. As I understand it the Allies had favoured industrial growth since at least 1947, even mid 1946, though it was a gradual process. It's true that Adenaur argued in favour of decreasing dismantling at the 1949 Petersburg conference and that concessions were granted it is vastly overstating his role to suggest that dismantling ended due to German pressure. I realise that the paragraph has references but the first one is in German, which I can't read, and the second does not support the assertion - merely stating that dismantling took place, was unpopular and then stopped. I shall check a couple of books and find something more accurate to replace it with. --Cherry blossom tree 15:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted, until such time as you can you can provide any better source. Meanwhile, for inspiration while you're searching for sources, why not read:
* Letter from Ernest Bevin to Robert Schuman (30 October 1949) British and French foreign ministers. Bevin argues that they need to reconsider the Allies' dismantling policy in the occupied zones (requires Flash Player) --Stor stark7 Talk 21:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cited my source. --Cherry blossom tree 22:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: " ... the first one is in German, which I can't read ... " Seriously? Articles about Germany would naturally be written in German. If you do not understand that language, use some translating software. Jose Mathew (talk) 10:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable paragraph 

message: I would like to echo and re-raise PBS's concerns from two years ago which I don't think were ever adequately addressed.
Furthermore, the lede is POV (and crappy) in that it does not accurately reflect the contents of the article itself. Volunteer Marek  20:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continuing problems 

message: I have reverted these. 
The Time Magazine is by all standards of Wikipedia an acceptable source and there is no reason for this removal of information. 
I'll continue to revert further removals that are done without discussion and will take that up with a mediating board if necessary. 
For instance: The removal of "reduce" is POV rather than the word as claimed by him. "Manage" on it's own is euphemistic and implies that all the plans were intended to do is benevolently manage the industry of an occupied country. 
The reduction was the stated goal as stated and sourced in the article so there is utterly nothing wrong with the word in the lead. 
The other removals have similar problems Xeruni (talk) 11:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Time Magazine from 1946 is a primary source. See WP:PRIMARY. Please find secondary sources to support the text. The overall problem with the article is rampant POV pushing which takes the form of trying to suggest that various hypothetical plans which were simply considered were actually implemented.Volunteer Marek 17:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removals by Marek 

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message: Reduction of population by use of organized famine until winter 1948/49 should be mentioned in the article. --178.10.67.207 (talk) 10:59, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famine