Talk:Harran

message: Sources such as Josephus or Jasher or Genesis have their own sources unveiled by the relations between them. Thus there are reasons not just heresay why one source says built when Peleg was 50 and others say built when Reu was 50. The two men (father and son) are 30 years apart (Peleg 2269bc, Reu 2239bc producing age 50 as 2219bc and 2189bc). In the case od 2219bc (if as evidence indicates Haran died in year 340 and was reborn into heaven to be with Peleg), this year 50 of Peleg in Masoretic Genesis is Peleg's death at age 239 in year 740 of Greek Genesis. Likewise, if Haran was born when Terah was 70 in Masoretic year 292, his death in year 341 would be Haran's 50th year, not Peleg, not Reu. The 79 of grandpa Nahor (his 29+50) not only makes use of this same year 50 in this WikiPedia article, but can be sourced to claiming grandson Nahor as first born (Nahor's 79 for Terah and 70 for Nahor born when Haran died at 50, and 10 years before Abram born in Haran's 60. Reverse it all in text language ordinal semantics and you have the claim Haran died when Abram was 50 (Jasher) and Haran died when Abram was 60 (Jubilees). The whole world is about reversing truth to create lies. And literally mathematical reversals are in every chronology if you seek to see them. BUT some type of spirit in people is refusing to look for this backbone math. There is so much obvious backbone math, that i am bitterly drowning in it. These dead ancient historians would have to come back to life to ask you why you can't see theit backbone math structure. 75.86.172.174 (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Relations - Sources of Sources 

message: This article needs a map showing Harran's actual location.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonyhcole (talk • contribs) 18:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I added a map request template. SamEV (talk) 04:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: I see the source given for the information in the section "Harran's mythology" is a book entitled The Chronology of Genesis: A Complete History of the Nefilim (2003).  I haven't looked this one up yet, or checked to see how reliable it is.  But, would you be able to tell what the primary source is for these alleged "myths"?  If they are indeed recorded myths, they would seem to confuse the reigns of actual rulers who lived centuries apart, such as Ur-Nammu of Ur-III and Ishbi-Erra of Isin. There were a few rulers of Ur with names like Nannar, but I'm not certain what historical ruler would be meant by "King Marduk".  It would also be quite impressive if it could be shown there existed an archaeological tablet as a primary source mentioning Abraham in connection with any of this.  However, the absence of what would presumably be ground-breaking news on that in scholarship, makes that entire "Nefilim" source seem a little suspect. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 04:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I placed it under mythology just for those reasons really... I thought it was good info to start and get some brain juices flowing. I had hoped that there would be original sources, but he didnt provide any. Neil is a historian himself, but I dont know how he came to those conclusions. Its worth investigating though... and we can only treat it as mythology. This is a book published for the consumer... so we cant ignore it.Jasonasosa (talk) 04:29, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be "mythology", but if it was mythology invented by one author in the year 2003, and cannot be traced before that anywhere, then that significantly reduces its encyclopedic value for us, you know. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harran's mythology. 

message: 150,845 (city)/32,114 (urban) in this poor village? Confused with the numbers for the district of Akçakale?--Dipa1965 (talk) 07:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: After the collapse of the Assyrian empire, Harran fell under Median domination, it's one of the parts of the former Assyrian empire wich was taken by the Median king Cyaxare:
French links:
http://www.astrolife.fr/medes.html
http://antikforever.com/Asie_Mineure/Divers/commagene.htm#Harran
English links:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/147792/Cyaxares
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DGrji159JmcJ:www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/Adda_Guppi_Harran.htm+cyaxare+harran+assyria&cd=4&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.233.218.32 (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harran 

message: This talk-page contains plenty of petty, useless arguments. The ARTICLE needs a few chronological corrections.
"It lay directly on the road from Antioch eastward to Nisibis and Ninevah. The Tigris could be followed down to the delta to Babylon." Antioch got her name in Hellenistic times. Babylon is far off the Tigris, nor is she situated in any delta. Plus Euphrates and Tigris form as little a delta, as do the Thames or the Hudson River.
"According to Roman authors such as Pliny the Elder, even through the classical period..." Does not belong here, around 1800 BC.
"... and the majority of people were Christian Assyrians." - No, they were not, as the text plays decades before Christ.
Angel García, Nuremberg  87.158.151.69 (talk) 13:26, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes - Chronological disorders 

message: According to wikipedia the Seleucid_Empire lasted till around 63 - 53 BCE.  This makes the statement in this article, under Saleucid Period "the majority of people were Christian Assyrians" rather tenuous.  If not extremely metaphysical. Unless I'm reading it wrong (apologies if so).  72.230.255.180 (talk) 02:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: More (severe) Chronological Problems