Talk:Dietrich von Choltitz

message: He died 'from a longstanding war illness'. Slightly odd wording. Was this a wound or an infection? Valetude (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: An interesting question, and one that I've been wondering about for some time.  Every online reference but one that mentions his COD at all uses that same vague, odd phrase.  (Whether it was copied from the WP article or vice versa is not clear.)  The one exception describes it as simply "a long illness".  I've looked at numerous print sources with no better luck.  Granted, it's a small point -- but when & if I come across a definitive, reliably-sourced answer (unless someone else finds it first), I will certainly add it. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 16:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Does the name sound like "Show-tiz" or "Core-tiz" in English? I don't know whether the German pronunciation is same as the French pronunciation or not.--Howard61313 (talk) 16:43, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither, it's more like coal-tiz. --15:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: More like Coal-Tits.Historian932 (talk) 20:05, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to pronounce "Choltitz" in German? 

message: If he surrendered to the Free French, why was he imprisoned in England? Valetude (talk) 14:17, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This page is for discussing improvements to the article; but briefly, the allies sent all the captured high-ranking officers to Trent Park, and then eavesdropped on their conversations, hoping they would reveal useful information - and apparently they did.  After the war, Choltitz served his time (not very long) in the USA. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 20:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for that, doctor. I suggest that this would actually represent an improvement to the article, enlightening many of us about the movement of important prisoners. Valetude (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Already there; but I do plan on expanding that point (and others) when I can find the time. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 23:44, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captivity 

message: I reverted the introduction of this material: diff. The arguments for inclusion are not convincing. The material is WP:UNDUE and WP:CHERRY-picked. It's also worth pointing out that the discussion started with observations that the article was painting too positive of a picture already. In this content, a fringe theory -- which I've not encountered anywhere else re: veracity of the transcripts -- just does not belong. It's been put forth the subject's son, and even the author (Hansen) does not seem to take it too seriously. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:19, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

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replies: text: Hello bot. I removed your deletion suggestion in that the image page says that it is in the public domain. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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message: I recently received a copy of Is Paris Burning? for my birthday.  The book was interesting, but the entry for it in Wikipedia indicates that there is no ISBN assigned.  I have just reviewed the entry for the ISBN system, and learned that it was instituted in 1967; perhaps that is why no ISBN was assigned.
Anyway, I was intrigued by the discussion (pp. 39-42) of the Sippenhaft, a law that reportedly allowed reprisals against family of Wehrmacht officers who failed their assignments.  The book didn't indicate whether Choltitz' family was punished under that law.  Evidently not, because the general's son Timo (aged four months at the time) lived to adulthood and has contributed information (referenced in Wikipedia) about his father.
This Wikipedia article also fails to mention Gen. Choltitz' two daughters, Maria Angelika and Anna Barbara.  Am I correct in surmising that such information cannot properly be included in the article, perhaps because Is Paris Burning? doesn't have an ISBN? Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

message: He participated in the invasion of Poland in 1939, where he fought under Łódź and the river Bzura.
:What does this mean? Valetude (talk) 23:42, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarify, please 

message: Is it 100% sure that he was born in Gräflich Wiese (Łąka Prudnicka)? A lot of sources claim that he was born in nearby Neustadt (Prudnik). Łąka Prudnicka is a small village with almost nothing in it, while Prudnik is a town, quite big back in 1894, so you know, hospitals & stuff. Also, it's only 4 km away from Łąka Prudnicka. I think that Prudnik (Neustadt) is more likely to be the place he was born.
Here are some sources for ya: 1 2 3  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.254.144.211 (talk) 19:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth 

message: Even some sources on this page (for example, www.lemonde.fr/televisions-radio/article/2019/01/06/detruire-paris-les-plans-secrets-d-hitler-paris-fut-bien-a-deux-doigts-de-bruler_5405721_1655027.html) assert it is probable that Choltitz's saving Paris is likely a self-serving myth invented by the man himself.
I find no sources to support his story that do not stem directly from his own statements and writings, especially his book. (But I am not an expert, which is why I will not edit the article myself.)
The story is inspirational, one man who stands up to Hitler and changes history. 
I don't think the story should be removed, but I do think it should be made more clear that there are serious historians who question the story.
Apparently it is Choltitz himself who ordered explosive charges to be placed at significant sites. His forces were inadequate to control Paris and when (or if) the order for destruction was received, is it not clear that he could have done anything.
I also find no source for Hitler's order outside, once again, of Choltitz himself. That does not mean the order doesn't exist, but it is not a convincing source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.64.0.198 (talk) 08:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth? 

message: Should be extended to 1947, as he was held captive until then. 2A02:2121:309:5C80:102A:4117:DE59:C3CE (talk) 20:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years of service