Talk:WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008/Archive 6

message: I saw his entrance on youtube and his name plate looked like this, "*Champion John Cena". I was wondering why there was an asterisk before champion when it should be "WWE Champion". 76.110.82.251 16:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify, I have the game and it is actually an asterix, not the WWE logo.   glennb28  t/c  14:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: John Cena

message: Does anyone know when they are going to put the official roster on www.svr2008.com?
75.8.53.7 01:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's obvious anyone here doesn't know other than THQ themselves. And why would you want to see it on the official website when it's already been released? Regardless, the talk page should be used only when issues are raised about the article. You have any other non-related questions, visit a forum.--The Scourge 05:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone? 

message: Added that the First-person view is for PS3 and PS3 only Reference here: . Edited reference for custom music and wording, reference here: . Also edited that the resolutions, headset and in-game Dolby Digital has been confirmed so XBOX 360 so far. PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY IGN!!! Fresh Prince Carlton 19:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added First person thing and edited custom music part!!!  

message: matching it from the one on the THQ site , the roster on the page reflects that of the DS version and is not the complete roster. please update! Lynx Raven Raide 00:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster List missing many 

message: On the IGN countdown it shows Bobby Lashley as a ECW superstar. Leave him there PLEASE!!!! Fresh Prince Carlton 21:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If any of you have played the demo released on the Xbox or other systems you would see in Lashley's background the RAW symbol. He is on RAW, nothing, especially CAPS AND EXCESSIVE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!11one! Can do about it Swanton Bomber 15:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved Bobby Lashley back to ECW 

message: Someone put unconfirmed wrestlers on article. I have the text saved, so I just put it back there. The save always stays up-to-date. I don't know why people do this, they must be in denial because of the small kind of not up-to-date roster. Or they have no life, nothing better to do and go and vandalize things like Wiki articles all the way up to buildings and property. GET A LIFE YOU VANDALIZING A$$ES!!!
Fresh Prince Carlton 01:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Got rid of garbage wrestlers 

message: Ha Ha you loser who wrote that under my writing YOURE WRONG BECAUSE KHALI'S ON SMACKDOWN GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT N PLUS I HAVE THE GAME SO HA HA  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.79.67 (talk) 10:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Those Garbage Wrestlers 

message: Hardcore Holly is in the game, but only on the Playstation 2 version. Also, as the game uses the rosters after the 2007 WWE Draft, Holly will probably be on the SmackDown roster.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfcucl1972 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That could be right. It's not the first time the IGN rosters have been incorrect. Here's one hoping for said occurrence at least. --Kaizer13 05:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

text: There, we found out when the game shipped in November. --Kaizer13 13:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardcore Holly 

message: The wrestlers are confirmed: but has it been confirmed they will appear on those brands in the game?  If not, the roster should be changed back to just a general listing (until the game comes out). Just because someone is on a certain brand for WWE now, doesn't completely mean he or she will be on that brand when the game actually comes out. The game comes out in a little over a month, but that doesn't justify original research in the article. RobJ1981 16:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Roster problems

message: I agree, and have been saying so for the past couple of weeks now. Another little question, if Bobby Lashley is going to be on Raw, then why is he on the front cover, along with a Raw superstar (Cena) & a SmackDown superstar (the Undertaker)? Lashley will be the default ECW Champion in the game, and the rosters will not be as up to date as they are on the listings here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfcucl1972 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster problems 2 

message: What are the matches for this game...??? please tell me
Dom10194 29th September 1.22
ECW Extreme Rules match, 20 minute Iron Man match (no other minute selection), Last Man Standing, and a few others have been confirmed, but more are to come to the conformation list. Fresh Prince Carlton 13:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matches 

message: Will they have alternate costumes in this game like they did on Wrestlemania 21 for GC? im kinda pissed off about Candice and Mickie's costumes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.74.9.8 (talk) 14:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Attires

message: Get nonpoint out, because there has been no confirmation nonpoint is in the game. the "reference" that's attached to it says there is a POSSIBLE involvement with the game. Until that POSSIBLE becomes a ABOSOULUTELY, it should be off the list. Lex94 17:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nonpoint

message: "XTREME!
has the swanton bomb been re-animated
-- Xtreme_rko
Yes, the Swanton Bomb has been re-animated. The impact of the finisher looks great too! We've updated a lot of moves and we will continue to do so each year. There is no doubt that you guys will be able to notice a big difference this year in all of our new navigational and move animations. We've made some big changes!"
That was from IGN* - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/823/823782p2.html
So yeah, should we add that they've re-animated a lot of the moves for the new game?
Something like this - "For SmackDown VS RAW 2008, they've re-animated a lot of the moves in the game such as the Swanton Bomb, so that they look more devastating." Something like that? Ladder4321 17:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cory says that they've re-animated a lot of moves 

message: i'm getting really pissed off about IGN confirming this and confirming that. at the end of the day, it's THQ who are making the game, and its smackdownvsraw.com that will confirm everything that is needed to be confirmed. Lashley will be on ECW in the game. If he's not, I'll get rid of my Wikipedia account.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfcucl1972 (talk • contribs) 12:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IGN 

message: Hu are the champs gonna be on the game?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.126.242 (talk) 19:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lashley, regrettably, I think must be the ECW champ, being featured on the box art and all. Not a big surprise that MVP is US champion though, they must have removed his, err, lunatic murderer predecessor. BALLIN. --Kaizer13 20:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Champions 

message: --KingOfDX 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nitro is indeed more likely. It was July when his name changed I believe. RobJ1981 05:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  IGN has him released as Nitro, I've even seen the entrance. It may be changed by the 13th, but who knows? Swanton Bomber 15:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: John Morrison or Johnny Nitro?

message: Why are batista and rey tag champs they havent been champs for ages?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.107.251 (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batista and rey? 

message: Just to clarify further. Since these two, MNM, Kendrick & London, Deuce & Domino and very recently, MVP and Matt Hardy have held the titles. MVP and Matt Hardy won it too late for the game to recognise this, and MNM, Kendrick & London and Deuce & Domino don't (at this stage) appear to be in the next game.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfcucl1972 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batista & Rey Mysterio 

message: Why is is always being reformated? Why is it back in tabula form and  taken out? It makes it a lot worse for editing for sure! Can you please vote or stick to a specific standard. Govvy 08:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, one format should be on the article, instead of it changing. But in any case: the roster is original research when it comes to brands. I highly doubt there is a source/sources that clearly show which brand everyone is on. Some have been confirmed: while a majority havent. We can't just assume they will be on the brand they are currently with (on WWE shows), as that's unsourced original research and speculation. RobJ1981 19:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't see why there should be really short lists for the commentators and referees. Maybe they should be converted to prose. I also don't think non-playables should be listed. --Jtalledo (talk) 12:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with that as well. People just add all that cruft just because it's people in the game. In my view, the playable list should be the only thing listed for roster (for this article, as well as all other wrestling games). RobJ1981 12:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster list formatting? 

message: Ign confirmed that in 24/7 is 2 roads one is taking a superstar to the hall of fame(you can't take the ecw wrestlers threw it though except john morrison)or take the gm(general maneger)road where you choose from tommy dreamer,teddy long,or johnathon couchman and you run eather raw,smackdown,or ecw-and run the whole program.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.214.184 (talk) 21:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  24/7 mode 

message: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/824/824696p1.html|Preview
I believe we should take excerpts from this and put in various points including:
* 24/7 Mode as a Superstar. 
When you select the option you'll be able to start a career as a Superstar or created character. If you choose your created brawler, you'll start with your minimum attributes and begin working your way up the ladder through skill training. Choose to be an established character, and you'll be able to start with the steam the wrestler already has or from scratch to build your own dynasty.
* You can't take an ECW Superstar (CM Punk, Elijah Burke, etc.) through 24/7 mode. Worse? You can't take an ECW Superstar who swapped shows (i.e. Sandman, Bobby Lashley, etc.) through the new career mode either with the exception of Johnny Nitro on Raw 
19 available wrestlers. The mode kicks off with your Superstar meeting Vince in the middle of an empty arena and him challenging you to become a legend and make it to the squared-circle for that awe-inspiring event known as Wrestlemania. From there, you adjourn to your new home away from home -- the WWE Locker Room.
On a bench is the latest issue of WWE Magazine (where you can check out what the other Superstars are saying about your feud), your cell phone contains e-mails -- some packing voice work -- that keep you up-to-date on backstage opportunities as well as who hates you, the calendar is where you manage your daily schedule, and your laptop keeps track of the WWE Shop, the Power 25 and your health.
There are four days of activities outside of your respective program but each choice will come with its own set of positive and negative elements
This give-and-take is spread out over training exercises -- nifty mini-matches where you're given a goal such as completing a set number of taunts or Ultimate Control Grapples to better your stats -- skill improvement training that costs money but will teach you mic moves and heat-gathering abilities that will lead to bonuses in your daily events, and the events -- autograph signings, trophy dates, etc. -- themselves.
No, you won't be able to roam the halls at your leisure, but there are a handful of cutscenes that have your superstar walking into the ladies locker room, cutting promos -- occasionally, you get to choose your response -- and dealing with your fellow Superstars
* As A General Manager
*Choose if you want to be:
*Theodore Long on SmackDown
*The Coach on Raw
*Tommy Dreamer on ECW -- yeah, even though you can't wrestle as any of the ECW guys in 24/7, you can book them and use them in the GM part. 
From there, you'll have a private meeting with Mr. McMahon on his jet, and he'll basically tell you to take your brand to the top or look for another job. Of course, Vince says all of this in that gravely growl of his so it sounds more intimidating.
The mode ramains exactly and relatively the same including more new feuds which can be tracked in WWE Magazine along with trades and the health of your crew. Basically, it's a slick version of last year's model -- except that you can now put your boys through the paces on their off days.
Just like in the Superstar portion of 24/7, GM allows you to put your performers through training exercises, skill improvement and events. It's a good way to make your roster more durable, popular and better wrestlers while making you an extra buck or too.
Obviously, there's a lot to 24/7 mode. On the single-player side, you'll be able to track your skill progression, morale and progress to Legend status while being a GM will have you balancing the books and trying to push your faces and heels in the most appropriate way. Succeed, and you can take your earnings to the WWE Shop and unlock Legends, belts, move sets and more.
Guns2006 14:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  24/7 mode 

message: Look, stop putting Lashley under RAW. In this game he is on ECW. Who cares if its a little outta date?
HES ON ECW!
On the cover, he is an ECW superstar, in the game he is a ECW superstar. Live with it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeydoo333 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if any of you played the Demo, you can see that Lashley's background is red, not purple. Which says Lashley is on Raw. Also who changed Tommy to a legend? - Swanton Bomber 17:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bobby Lashley 

message: Somebody needs to source the arenas section. I know that a previous version of the article only included a few arenas, but now it seems to include all from the past year. Jeff Silvers 15:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arena source 

message: 
The table for the superstars is a nice touch but the current superstars box is improperly formatted. Someone please fix.69.182.106.62 01:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit Request

message: Can anyone find more information about the soundtrack cause at the moment only three have been listed. im sure there will be more then that - (Mattpage023 10:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats great fine and dandy but the problem is that Wikipedia is NOT a Game Guide. We are not to contain any non-notable information or guides of any kind. You also need to add a reliable source as Wikipedia cannot take your word to verify claims. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack 

message: Someone needs to find a source for the list of arenas in the game before they put them back onto the article. Hiphopchamp 14:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arenas 

message: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/826/826777p3.html
WWE Download
I have read before that we will have downloadable content for the Playstation 3 and X-Box 360, what kind of downloadable content can we expect?
-- monkeyskull33
Hey "monkeyskull33." I don't know where you heard we have downloadable content, but that rumor is not true. As I mentioned in a previous answer, the online portion of our game will be relatively similar to last year with some minor improvements.
GO to the official website and it has a poll about the downloadable content with arenas , roster updates , new storylines , attire , music and the list goes on  .november 9th yer  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencrossley (talk • contribs) 16:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Downloadable Content 

message: Some wrestlers will have alternate attires that are unlockable,DX are in the game,and if your playing online and your oponnent disconnected during a match they will be credited with a loss and there disconnect rate percentage will increase.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.214.184 (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IGN: THQ&A 

message: I thought since there are at least 2 versions for the game I decided to make a section on it. If you have any way I can improve it just say here (except say remove because it is OCNFIRMED) DON'T REMOVED IT IS CONFIRMED!!! Fresh Prince Carlton 15:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limited and Collectors edition versions sections 

message: Okay I'm not positive if this is a legit source but at:
http://www.psu.com/Smackdown-vs-Raw-2008-Interview--a0001496-p2.php 
The first question on that page that they ask them is what ECW bring to the game and the THQ rep says that it brings Extreme Rules and ECW Legends such as Tommy Dreamer, Terry Funk, and Sabu. Direct Quote:
"PSU: What new features have been brought in with the addition of the ECW brand?
THQ: In addition to the aforementioned ECW Extreme Rules Match, players can expect a full on ECW invasion in WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008. We’ve not only added a number of never-before-seen ECW Superstars and arenas to the series, but also ECW-specific storylines in 24/7 Mode. In fact, the tribe of extreme has even hijacked our Legends roster with the inclusion of Tommy Dreamer, Terry Funk and my personal favorite, Sabu."
Also recently there has been a Game Expo in Australia called Armageddon where they has the full game up on display for people to play now while the person(iEddict) was there(as it was not me) he took a bunch of pictures and a video tape showing the whole Roster and the new separate group called "ECW Legends". Along with the whole roster it showed 3 secret Characters: Shane McMahon, Mr. McMahon, and JBL. With the McMahon's being on the Raw brand while JBL was on the Smackdown brand, theses three were shown on the playable roster but locked and each in wrestling gear, as Vince "Mr." McMahon is in his muscle shirt. 
iEddict's leaked thread with the video on it: http://boards.ign.com/wwe_smackdown/b6546/152126418/p14
Proof in these pictures of ECW Legend Group: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/grave_nightmare/sabukq4.jpg?t=1192408263
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/grave_nightmare/funkqw0.jpg?t=1192408222
Proof of Shane, Mr.McMahon, and JBL in order: 
http://i24.tinypic.com/zof9ls.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/grave_nightmare/vincepp2.jpg?t=1192408218
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/grave_nightmare/jblln4.jpg?t=1192407229
Video Proof of the WHOLE roster: I do not think this is fake at all: http://www.dailymotion.com/Eddict/video/5402860
I think this is some pretty legit information as it even proves Tommy Dreamer as an ECW Legend. 216.15.71.127 01:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ECW Legends and Secret Characters 

message: It has now been confirmed by pictures taken from the game located at this link > [url]http://caws.ws/forum/index.php?showtopic=168139[/url]that JBL has been added to the Smackdown! roster as an unlockable. Also that Vince McMahon is an unlockable for the RAW Roster. Also that there is a new section of superstars, ECW Legends which would seperate Terry Funk and Sabu from the regular WWE legends.
: per "this template should be accompanied by a specific description of the request."  If the edit you are requesting is controversial I won't make the change unless a consensus in support exists first.  Please make sure anything you propose includes no original research or personal opinion and is cited to reliable sources. Feel free to replace the template when you have finished your request. Thanks,  ---J.S  (T/C/WRE) 12:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Update the Roster 

message: I removed the match list. We needn't list every possible match in the game. It's just another large, cluttered list. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match list 

message: I know this page is locked and everything, but someone might want to clean up the lingering vandal still left on this article.75.117.125.171 03:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Not sure if this is real but someone I know said that ECW extreamists wont be availible in 24/7 mode. sourse : http://svr06.com/blog/2007/10/04/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-247-mode-report/ Dingyv03 03:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''ECW in 24/7 Mode'''

message: 1) why is the mode list innecsary?
2) why the makers couldn't add missing wrestlers like Duce and Domino?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 20:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't really the place to ask for this, but I'll try not to be a cunt like some of the other people who answer. 1, because it's...I dunno. Some random Wikipedia reason that cannot be explained in laymen's terms. 2, mainly because Yuke's are lazy nuggets who don't even bother to check the roster for any updates since last year. Oh, and because they've been paid. You know how it is. --Kaizer13 07:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two questions

message: Official proof by IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/828/828479p1.html
Don't mean to say I told you so but.....I won't. That means we have to edit the roster. 216.15.71.127 02:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tommy Dreamer is a Legend 

message: Can somebody please fix the SVR 2008 page back to normal and could please add the match types so people can known what matches there are in the instead of them searching for it in 100's of websitesKTsuka 14:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: I also suggested it but nobody listened. The match list is necesary. Good sugestion..keep it up...--FranK 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE:Suggestion 

message: I don't think the article needs a list of matches. It is long, cluttered and not very useful. I removed it again. --Jtalledo (talk) 11:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is one of the main reason why you should probably ask first? Feel free to be bold though :P --Kaizer13 04:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match list 

message: Can you use Mr McMahon,Shane McMahon & JBL KTsuka 03:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There have been videos showing Vince, Shane and JBL as unlockable characters, as well as possibly Maria. The videos look real to me. But, hey, in the future, try not to post questions like that here. It's in the incredibly fascist Wikipedia guidelines, so unless you're lucky and get a response from me, you'll get your head chewed off by asking for stuff like this. Consult the Gamefaqs board (even though the users there are even bigger assholes likely to chew your head off even more) in the future. Thanks! --Kaizer13 04:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fascist? I hardly think so. But that is a debate for a completely different forum. :P --Jtalledo (talk) 16:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: What Entrents does the Sandman have on PS2 a)Does he go throw the crowd or b)Down the Entrents ramp.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.219.134 (talk) 09:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sandman 

message: Hey I was watching all of the vids I could find when I stumbled upon these weapons:
*Singapore pole/kendo stick (yes! the sandman's little buddy is available)
*Steel Chair
*barbwired 2x4
*FLAMING barbwired 2x4
*Table
*Stacked tables
*FLAMING table
*FLAMING Stacked tables
*Guitar (where's the Honky Tonk Man?)
*Garbage Can (I think)
*Ladder
*Sledge Hammer
*Ring Bell(Announcer table)
*Title Belt (Crowd)
*Crutch (Crowd)
*Umbrella (Crowd)
*Mop (FITCA)
*Speakers(FITCA)
*Microwave(FITCA)
Sorry thats all I remember... Oh and weapons can be placed in more specific places like
between the ropes at the turnbuckles. 
Go to IGN videos to check it all out for yourself if you don't believe me but, who wouldn't believe a face like mine? :D
Greyglue 15:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WEAPON'S LIST!!! 

message: I added what championships that were going to be included in the game, and the previous SmackDown! games, but someone reverted it why? I think its notable to include what championships are included in each SmackDown!/SvR game. --TrUcO9311 20:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Championships

message: Dam you guys made it look really messy now, not a nice looking article at all. So many bad edits, can't you lots establish a plan or something? Govvy 20:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Messy article. 

message: WHERE does this come from? I looked everywhere for confirmation on this, but no website has proof of it... That has to be changed until they give a good page to confirm it... All I've seen are people saying they hope its on the game... I saw a screenshot with all the 1 vs. 1 matches n there was no Punjabi Prison Match on the list... >=( Dont get people excited about what you think is on the game if its not...
Greyglue 21:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its, not but that section really needs clean up.--TrUcO9311 22:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punjabi Prison Match??? 

message: There really is no need for the match type list. The most we need it a paragraph about the NEW Match Types and the Tournament Modes added to the Game Modes Section. Anyone agree? Ladder4321 02:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone fix up the Article - No need for the match type list 

message: Can someone please change the layout. Its all messed up. And please decide what you're putting in.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.210.245 (talk) 11:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Layout 

message: Someone please remove it from the Match Types list because it hasnt been confirmed yet.
Greyglue 16:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lumberjack Match??? 

message: Nitro is definitely called Johnny Nitro in the game; just take a look at this IGN screenshot, and here is my link to prove it: http://uk.media.ps2.ign.com/media/882/882477/img_4997808.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WWEBoffin0101 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Nitro 

message: Is this really a necessary part of the article? All of the other SmackDown games that have this list were put there very recently. I erased the list once, as it is another cluttered list, and apparently, I was committing vandalism. Why don't we remove the list until the game comes out and we can list the default champions in the game?  Hiphopchamp 12:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playable Championships 

message: Somone needs to put a section on this, plus peoples fighting styles.
PEACE!!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WWE Dude (talk • contribs) 19:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox Live Demo+Fighting Styles 

message: There is no more title match mode. It is now streamlined into the superstar select screen along with selecting your manager. If you select a champion (ex. John Cena) it shows over their stats the championship they have, then you press left or right to turn title defense on or off (shows title disapering over there stats when you turn it off). Fresh Prince Carlton 22:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed Championship section!!! 

message: wheres JBL,Shane McMahon,and Vince McMahon confirmed by that video that leaked onto the internet
[link]unsigned comment added by 141.151.214.184 (talk) 02:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what 

message: :Image:1273 46115 box-1-.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 05:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:1273 46115 box-1-.jpg

message: *Vandalism protection. Academic prose is generally more difficult to vandalise in the random things that happen to this article.
*Informative value. A list format does not allow for any description of the characters. I have an interest in video games (as a WP:VG article assessor) but I do not get any informative value from the current roster section.
*Manual of style. Per Wikipedia:Embedded list, lists such as the current roster list are bad.
Also, I would like some feedback from the more established editors on the quite radical edits I made a few days ago. What did you think of them? Feel free to disagree, even if that means disagreeing with Wikipedia policy.
User:Krator (t c) 22:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd love for it be in prose, as I dislike lists, but given its length and its context in the article, I don't see how it could be done any other way. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with most of the edits, particularly the removal of the match types lists. I'm not sure some other users agree though. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Written text without any formal structure, such as poetry, lists and programming languages have. User:Krator (t c) 15:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the Roster should be Prose, not a List 

message: Look there are a few thing sI consider are wrong about this page. The first thing is that I think the mode list should be included. Also I think the roster should be diivded by brand.
Please undo some things like, for example one thing that playable championships or at least let us see i t to see if it's good enough!!!
FranK 17:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no confirmation of what brands they are on, so just assuming they are on a certain brand is speculation. When the game comes out, then they can be sorted by brand. As for playable championships: that leans towards game guide and fancruft. Go to a site that specializes in all information, as Wikipedia certainly isn't the place for every detail. Wikipedia isn't meant as a buyer's guide. Look at IGN or Gamespot if you aren't sure if the game is "good enough" or not.  RobJ1981 20:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't confirm anything either. They're just going to have them on whatever brand they currently appear on in current WWE storylines,not necessarily what brand they are on in the game. Last year on the game's website they had Johnny Nitro on RAW but in the game, he was on the SmackDown roster. The only way to confirm whatever brand everyone is on is to wait until the game comes out. Bmg916Speak 11:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listen! 

message: Uhh, the article states that SvR08 will reinstate the Championship title match mode? That was available in 07, and 06. Or wasn't it in the other versions for the other consoles last year? I wouldn't know since I didn't play them. In that case, it should be clearly stated in the article. --Kaizer13 13:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Championship mode?

message: thanks, yes I saw the official site but some wresrtlers are missing. I can't belive people like Johnny Nitro or Domino ain't in it what do you think?. FranK 19:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  thanks 

message: Is Johnny Nitro in the game or not? how about JBL, Mr.McMahon, Shane Sabu, ?. the photos look real!! I am really confused help me!  FranK 19:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am confused! 

message: This info i got from Amazon.com
Product Features
* The heart of the Smackdown! Series is the Season-Story mode with the addition of authentic Superstar VO and commentary.
* For the first time ever in a WWE game, fans can compete online in head-to-head action.
* New storylines with bigger double-crosses and over-the-top surprises.
* Create a Championship Belt and then set up your own PPV to defend it. Be careful - lose a match and lose your Championship, as it will transfer to the other player's memory card!
* New WWE Legends, including one of the all-time greats, Andre the Giant!
Is Andre included?
This adds to my questions before... bye
FranK 20:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're looking at a description of the original SmackDown vs. Raw game, WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW, released three years ago. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WTF 

message: Sorry to keep bothering but this new info is out there nad I didn't know if I should add it or not so I decided to run it with you guys:
~New Info~ (Thanks to 2_Damn_Dangerous):
* Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas have been confirmed for the roster
* Currently Rey Mysterio's overall rating is 92, Randy Orton is 93, and John Cena is a 97
* Sandman enters through the crowd in his entrance
* The ECW title is confirmed
Sorry to keep bothering  but I got new info I  jsut don't knwow if add it or not so I show it to you so you can evaluate if it's trust worthy or not i
* Undertaker has a new Tombstone, Randy Orton has a new RKO
* Sabu's moves have been put into the game (Triple Jump Moonsault), though Sabu himself is not confirmed
* Rey Mysterio has 3 attires, they are black, white, and red
* Sandman's, Taker's, and Orton's entrance is "spot on"
* The HUD is still displayed
* Loading screen display wrestler bios, the menu looks "amazing" and the main menu is listed: Play Now, Exhibition, Game Mode, Create Mode, XBOX Live, Option
* JBL and Cole have been confirmed as announcers, as well as Styles and Tazz
* The blood effects are much better
- Weapon System is more advanced, ECW Superstars are more vicious now once wielding a weapon...Some moves are, Stomping on your opponents head in between the folds of a steel chair. A Conchairto and more to come. Steel Steps are also being given improvement as you can now inflict moves such as Powerbombs, Facecrushers (most likely) onto the steps.
- Weapons you choose using the weapon "selection wheel" can be used with stuff like fire, barbed wire...So now you can actually choose to use a clean Barbed Wire Bat...or a Bat on fire. You can seriously kill your opponent using that. (No Pun Intended) 
- Once bleeding, or being damaged by weapons, you can actually smack yourself in the head with a chair to give yourself momentum. lol.
- Your Superstar has 2 Main Fighting Styles, before Matches, you have the opportunity to choose one of those styles and fight in that style...
- The Right Stick is used while punching in corners to have power in the punches. The more worn out your opponent is while in a Submission hold, he wont be able to get out easily.
I don' remmber what site was it from but don't think it was too suspicious althought it was clearly non officalial, it wa as forum like thing.
Please read it and check. Also I think the MAtch list is ok to be on the page becouse it's game info.
thanks and bye
FranK 20:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read the note at the top of this discussion page, which states what reliable sources are for this article: " interviews with game developers, interviews with wrestlers, distinguishable screenshot(s)/video(s) and/or articles from established companies/websites/official wrestler's websites (for example IGN, GameDaily, GameSpot, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, G4, MTV and websites associated with published print magazine" --Jtalledo (talk) 22:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry to keep bothering  

message: 71.29.36.131 16:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster Question 

message: Sorry to keep posting stupid things, I am sorry next time i'll give you the site's adresss. Sorry. 
PS: I didn't know that was Smackdown vs raw I really thought.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 16:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry 

message: A few posts ago, someone said that we should follow in suit to the official website's announcements. Well, IGN receives official information on the SVR 2008 game directly from THQ. WWEBoffin0101 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IGN 

message: Could someone confirm or deny the things I posted previously, specially the one where it syas that Bjenamin and Haas are inthe roster. Thanks
FranK 00:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PL is confirm 

message: Shouldn't he be there? Maybe a sentence like this - "Making a return to the SmackDown! video game series is Jeff Hardy, who has not been in a SmackDown! game since Shut Your Mouth." Ladder4321 05:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeff Hardy isn't Mentioned in the Roster List 

message: Please change the roster back to the way it was yesterday! I mean, look at the SVR, the SVR 2006 and the SVR 2007 rosters, they look much better than a big, long and boring description about who is in and who is out. It was fine yesterday, so REVERT IT PLEASE!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WWEBoffin0101 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horrible Roster 

message: Some of em, anyway... Well, Dreamer is NOT a legend, according to the SD! vs. RAW 2008 official website. Sandman is on RAW, same as Lashley, Johnny Nitro (not John Morrison) is on ECW, Jeff Hardy IS confirmed on RAW, alt. attires are involved, and downloadable content is going to be available most likely, seeing as the page has a pole on what people would like to download more, including Superstars/divas, weapons, arenas, alternate attires, and alternate storylines. Hope that helps a bit... Greyglue 20:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Questions Answered 

message: I also say you should put the roster the way it was it's better in a lis than a text. please.
--FranK 20:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hey guys 

message: I think I was mistaken.. it was a sdvsraw info I took, I wish Hass could be in but he's not on wwe right now, Duece and Domino shoul've been in the game.
FranK 20:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PD 2 

message: more links to the info I'm saying
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=fighting&message.id=53795  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 20:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, message boards are not reliable sources. --Jtalledo (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  more source 

message: I posted before about the official site changing the release date from 12 days to 6 or so weeks and was told that the 12 day countdown was a mistake but now just a few days later the site has changed it back to 9 days.
75.117.120.23 07:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the 15th in Europe according to IGN.com Davnel03 10:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date changed again 

message: http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Smackdown-vs-Raw-2008/dp/B000SH3XEK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-3965952-9115803?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1193948995&sr=8-1
At this website it says under Product Features "New WWE Legends, including one of the all-time greats, Andre the Giant!" can you tell me if there talking about a different smackdown or if its 2008?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.106.111 (talk) 05:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, this refers to the first SmackDown vs. Raw title. Andre the Giant was "New" to the series in that title. --Jtalledo (talk) 11:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  andre the giant?? 

message: It seems to me there are far too many changes to this page and moist of them are unnecessary especially in terms of the info. Would someone consider locking it until the games is released on Friday 9th.
--Dangelo82 (talk) 12:09, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As much as I hate doing that, I agree. There's just going to be a lot of edits without sources, and not even the main site or IGN can be trusted to give the correct information anymore. We're just gonna have to wait until the game is out and all is revealed. --Kaizer13 12:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locking the page 

message: Is it me, or has anyone else noticed that the countdown ends 4 days before the game comes out? Maybe thats when they will expose the McMahons, JBL and Maria... :D Although, it does come out in Europe 4 days early...Greyglue 21:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countdown 2007 

message: 1st, the roster setup is disgusting... it should be a chart like is always has been. 2nd, put up the Match List, as a lot of people want to see it. 3rd... well, there is no 3rd... Greyglue 21:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Problems 

message: 1) I will insist that you put the roster as list and that you add the match types.
2) I also wanna ask if you are completly sure that that the info I posted corresponds to Smackdown vs Raw, I it is so I am sorry for the confusion.
3) I also wanna apologise to GreyGlue becosue I edited the site to get tougether some of my posts and I hope I didn't erase yourse. If I did I am sorry.
That's all I hope you forgive me for all the misunderstandings and confusing posts.
Thank you
InfoLove  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 03:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 2. It is. See above. --Jtalledo (talk) 10:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Few Comnents 

message: according to this youtube video  of creating ur own finisher, it says "Stand Up" by the rap duo 8Ball and MJG is a song on the soundtrack
J.C. 08:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  soundtrack 

message: I have several subjets to adress
1. I inssit that oyu leave the match list please
2. PLis put the roster the way it was(as a list)
3. Don't ignore what I mentioned above you just keep doing that and a lot of the poeple are asking the sam just do it!
4. Are Shane McMahon, Vincent McMahon, JBL as unlockable characters in the game?
5. I would you to add the championships available and the starting champions as in the Spanish version of the article
Thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 00:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new thing and a repeated thing 

message: According to the roster page on the official website, they are NOT legends, but they are ECW extremists. Also the countdown ends 4 days early, which shows that possibly 4 secret characters will be revealed, or to give us a hint that 4 secret characters are in the game, or the countdown ends as soon as the game is first released in Europe. PS: Doesn't the title of my post sound like a friggin Harry Potter book title? Greyglue 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabu, Tommy Dreamer and the Unfinished Countdown 

message: Did anyone else notice? The game comes out the same day Eddie Guerrero died two years ago, and he only gets a spot on PSP... WTF? Greyglue 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Guerrero lack of Respect 

message: I'd rather we have a Match Types section like on the SvR07 article. It won't be that long and it'll be informative. Anyone? Anything? Ladder4321 03:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Match types are mentioned briefly as prose in the "Modes" subsection. --Jtalledo (talk) 23:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match Types or List? 

message: Guys, if you cant understand Spanish, at least look at the page to get an idea of how this article should look like, except in English. Every single thing on there has a citation, every individual superstar, match, and championship! (According to the Spanish page says Dreamer is ECW champ, but Im not sure if its citated.)Greyglue 23:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That page looks awful. There's a bunch of "citation needed" notes and most of the page is comprised of lists. It's exactly how this article shouldn't be. Please review WP:MOS for style considerations. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Some vague notion about "lots" of people "seeming" to like lists doesn't override established guidelines defined by WP:EMBED. Encyclopedia articles should primarily be comprised of prose. And you previously stated "everything" had a citation and I just pointed out that there were some citation needed tags. --Jtalledo (talk) 07:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Version 

message: I agree with Greyglue. come on people want it do it already what are you wating for?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 21:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree 

message: Can we skip the whole who is on what platform aproach in sentence form?
 Can we just have a list that tells you who is or is not in the game, the way it is now is confusing as hell. AD Double J 16:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster LAyout 

message: it has been conformed there is bald mcmohn in wwe shop and the mcmohon entrence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44qkBCcE8wk)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.231.116 (talk) 04:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  unlockables 

message: Ok as if people didn't already know it the game's already released in the UK and in ausralia(sorry if i mispelled it) the game was released in both contries friday so why hasn't anyone put the official/known info on the page?
Mate, a aussie game hasn't been released, refer to the release dates on wikipedia. I am aware that it was to be released on 8 nov, but it was DELAYED to 15 nov, 2 days away from time of this writing Dingyv03 00:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the release date in Australia has really been delayed until the 15 of November then the date in the article should be changed. However, I have not been able to find any information the Internet that talks about a delay in Australia. --Credema 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK & AU versions of the game? 

message: FOR THE ROSTER MAKE IT LIKE IT USED TO BE! PLZ  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.161.152 (talk) 13:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PUT THE LIST BACK 

message: Ignore the code (whatever) and out the roster as a list. Also plis put the championships, the modes and, if posible, a weapon list. Listen to what people want damm it! They are literaly screaming for it...isen't wiki 4 the people?? then do it añready and forget that silly code..it's ridiculous. Does anybody agree with me?. What do we have to do to get you guys to do it and break the rule just for once? Don't be so strict.
FranK 22:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If something improves an article it should be added, however it can also be argued that a list of the complete roster is not really needed. --Credema 05:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listen and listen well! 

message: is it realised in the morning of the 13th or the evening of the 13th.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.24.105 (talk) 02:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  realis date 

message: Is there a reason someone changed to the boxart from PS2 to PS3? Both were from the same region, so there was no reason there (since I know people tend to switch to the NA boxart). I think it should be the Wii boxart, but you don't see me changing it for no reason. TJ Spyke 18:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone has their reason. You think it should be the Wii version because you're into that system. I personally think the PS3 version fits the article better since the series began as a PlayStation title, exclusive to the Sony platforms for quite some time, and it is the first in the series for the next gen Sony console. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with a Sony box, but there wasn't any reason to change it from the PS2 box to the PS3 box. If I were to change it to the Wii box, then no one could say anything since nobody said anything with this change. TJ Spyke 19:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It shouldn't have been changed. There was nothing wrong with the original image. But then again, there's nothing wrong with the PS3 image. It just shouldn't be changed again. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boxart 

message: I don't think the current fiction tag should be on this article. It's a fighting game, not a Charles Dickens novel. The template states:
:It may contain detailed information on the characters, plot, and ending of the work of fiction it describes.
There is no information on the "characters" if you want to call them that. That would imply there would be some motive, some actions of the "characters" that the text would provide. There is none.
Plot? There is no central plot. The game's 24/7 mode has miniature storylines, but that does not constitute a plot. Similarly, with no central plot, there is no "ending". Most players will just playing exhibition matches and online matches again and again and again until the next game is released.
I understand that some people might want to propagate the use of the  template, but this isn't one of the articles to use it on. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for notifying me on my talk page. I tagged the article with the  tag because videogames are generally considered fictional works and this game was recently released. I guess if the game has no central plot then it probably would not be considered fiction. Thank you for your explanation. I support your decision. --Pixelface 13:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current fiction tag 

message: GreyGlue did you see Eddie Guerrero is a legend. It finally wasn't a disrespect. Kool hu?. Bye
FranK (talk) 06:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good news for GreyGlue 

message: Is there no Chris Benoit character to play as a legend? I know this guy committed a horrible act, but he should still be in the game. He was one of the greatest wrestlers ever. bhaas0532  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.246.140.166 (talk) 16:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NO CHRIS BENOIT?