Talk:North Irish Horse

message: I'm disappointed to see so much reverting on this page, without a single comment on the talk page. Are you all so convinced that you have nothing to say in your own favour?
So, blocks all round for those edit warring.
Now, on to some substance:  by 91.123.226.1 saying remove self published source IMOS deals with this seems especially unwise. The regimental website would seem to be a rather useful source for this article. I cannot but see that edit as deliberately provocative. 
Several have mentionned Wikipedia:IMOS. This leads to absurdities like . OTOH we also have Londonderry_Sentinel which too seems absurd to me.
My opinion is that in an article about a TA regiment, it would be sensible to use LD. But thats only my opinion, youll have to work it out on the talk page William M. Connolley (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 91.123.226.1 is quite correct, it is a self published source, likewise this one on the RIC. But that is not just my opinion, but the opinion on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard as seen in this reply here. So your wrong to see it as deliberately provocative, IMO. While you may think it would be sensible to use LD, that is just like you say yourself, an opinion and not supported by WP:IMOS. Now the place to raise this issue is at WP:IMOS talk page, which has been suggested, but flatly ignored. I hope this nonsence stops now, and disagree with the blocking of 91.123.226.1 as they were correct in both their rational and edit summary. --Domer48'fenian' 09:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see a lot of opinion here from William M. Connolley and not a lot of Good Faith. Bring your opinion to the IMOS page and discuss it there. The consensus is to use Derry for the City and Londonderry for the county. This has been agreed to stop endless edit wars on the issue. BigDuncTalk 09:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally I'm perfectly happy with the suggested course of Derry for city, and Londonderry only for the county, sicne that the preferred style of my favoured newspaper.  However, the latest changes have been in reference to 9th (Londonderry) HAA Regiment.  Here Londonderry is part of the regimental title, so I really think we have to follow the actual unit name, it's not directly referrring to the city itself, but it's affilaition and possibly it's recruiting area.  David Underdown (talk) 10:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A few refs fo rthis as regimental title: page 4 of this pdf http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction__mcfarland_papers_d3703.pdf published by PRONI.  The unit histories website, which is the most comprehensive website currently available of British military units http://www.unithistories.com/units_british/RA_HAA_Regiments.html though I note that the info on this page is credited to Richard Doherty, and one of the books listed is by him him, and another by a name that will be familiar to those who have been editing the UDR page recently, Ronnie Gamble.  This MOD website of a succesor unit http://www2.army.mod.uk/105regtrav/206_ulster_battery/bty_history.htm.  This section of the Derry City Council website, http://www.derrycity.gov.uk/ww2/section4.htm.  David Underdown (talk) 11:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derry / Londonderry 

message: At the same time as the source being discussed above was removed, a link to North Irish Horse content on http://www.notoriousstrumpets.co.au was also removed as self-published.  I've also been doing a bit of digging into this as from what I could see the work seemed to be well-sourced.
The author of the site, Philip Tardif is a published author.  His first book, Notorious strumpets and Dangerous Girls: Convict Women in Van Diemen's Land, 1803-1829  was published in 1990, and has since been released as an interactive CD.  This book is referenced by several other books as demonstrated by this google books search.  It is also listed as a source for teachers and secondary school students by the official website related to Port Arthur, Tasmania ; by the library of Macquarie University , by this University of Sydney website; this list of electronic resources from the State Library of New South Wales; by Informit Australia which describes itself as "the premier source of online Australasian scholarly research" and appears to be somewhat analogous to Intute, mentioned above; in this Australian Dictionary of Biography article on Maria Lord; as further reading on this article on female convicts from the University of Tasmania; and in this bibliography for sources on the Welsh in Austrlaia from the National Library of Wales.
His second book John Bowen's Hobart: The beginning of European settlement in Tasmania won a Government of Tasmania local history prize .  This announcement also states that he has a history degree.  Given all this (the other two sections on the website are both related to his books), he again seems to have reasonable credentials as an expert.  David Underdown (talk) 15:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: David, the link you provided is dead http://www.notoriousstrumpets.co.au, likewise was the other one. Therefore I had no way of knowing what the sources were. I hope that explains my edit summary on removing dead links? --Domer48'fenian' 16:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I meant http://www.notoriousstrumpets.com.au  I thought I had double-checked that.  Ah you OK for the one above to go back in too?  David Underdown (talk) 16:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Notorious strumpets''

message: Your attention is drawn to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final_remedies_for_AE_case William M. Connolley (talk) 17:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this article is covered under The Troubles but I would agree to a 1RR on it. BigDuncTalk 19:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If its not it should be, I'd agree to a 1RR also. --Domer48'fenian' 19:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  1RR