Talk:StarCraft (video game)/Archive 1

message: The article has been made a FA and is currently fairly stable. Some rewording/improvement in the consistency and clarity of the writing sytle might be welcome. 59.167.77.211 05:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Status 

message: This looks like vandalism.  Source?  ~PG
huk, everyone is talking about that 'vandalism' over at http://www.teamliquid.net MyCube 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, featured articles on the Main Page do tend to draw a lot of vandalism, especially when they're about pop culture stuff like video games.  --King of All the Franks 07:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, pop culture articles and articles about controversial personalities are a big favorite of vandals. From my experience with Link (Legend of Zelda) (the other video game-related FA I worked on), this page will see a few days of intense activity before returning to relative stability; that includes vandalism, nonsensical and redundant edits from fans who do not bother to read the whole article before concluding that we forgot to mention something important. On the other hand, being on the main page also attracts a few solid contributors who will take care for this article over a longer period of time, which is good. If you look through the history, though, you'll notice that this article has reached relative stability some time ago already; there isn't much left to say about the game that's general enough to be in this article, as opposed to one of the related sub-articles. Most recent activity was preparation for the main page. Cheers. Phils 08:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backstabbers 

message: Is it possible to expand a bit on the influences from Warhammer 40,000? The current wording ("...may have had an influence") seems to me too weak if you consider the actual similarities between the StarCraft universe and that of Warhammer 40K. In fact, there is definately enough material for a new page, which i might add would interest a lot of people. I don't know how to present such a page, as it might seem as speculation, but many similarities are crystal clear, for example the Space Marine Dreadnoughts and the Protoss Dragoons, both are mechas of some sort, containing  the remains of warriors fallen in battle that continue to serve in this way. This sort of thing is more that a "possible influence", in fact it could be ground for a lawsuit if the StarCraft universe wasn't so well integrated and presented.
Similarly, the phrase "Others believe that the game contains subtle references..." just doesn't sound right, for example, in the case of Space Battleship Yamato. The Terran unit in question is a Battlecruiser, in space, and is equipped with the Yamato Cannon, which is pretty much identical in function to the one in the anime. This is also stated firmly in the Terran (StarCraft) page.
An idea would be to rework the influences section to discuss and present the extent to which StarCraft borrowed from various sources (especially Warhamer 40K) and sucessfully tied everything in a unique universe that can stand on its own, really more than the sum of its parts. This is part of the reason that the game was loved so much after all. The developers themselves make no attempt to hide it either, in fact they are proud to acknowledge their sources, as seen on the games ending credits. A good example for that is the Protoss Reaver unit; it is identical in its form and elaborate animation to the Ohmu from Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Hayao Miyazaki is in the Special Thanks list. 62.1.111.152 05:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments. The nice thing about Wikipedia is that you can implement all these suggestions yourself! Just make sure that you keep the wording clear and concise, and that you explain how the content you cite was an influence to StarCraft. Arguably, pretty much all science fiction that came before StarCraft influenced it in one way or another, so we need to restrict ourselves to obvious influences. If you can, provide authoritative sources (i.e.: no non-notable personal blogs or fan sites, but verified statements from Blizzard employees, interviews... )to back your claims. Phils 08:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for Influences 

message: I removed the trivia section, and I hope someone can incorporate it into the text.  For contributer-popular entries such as Starcraft, the trivia section will ruin the FA quality of the article.  What starts out as a few items, will become an overgrown mass of bullet points.  Don't allow your work to deteriorate -- keep the trivia section out.
Removed: "The popularity and pervasiveness of Starcraft in the online gaming community soon gave rise to the term Zerging, where typically, a swarm of players in an online game all attack a target in an indiscriminate and uncoordinated fashion in order to overcome the resistance through sheer numbers."
Lotsofissues 09:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section moved here