Talk:Mixed reality

message: A team of three of us plan to edit this article as a part of a "Writing for Engineers" course. We noticed that many of the sources cited seem outdated, so we plan to add newer sources and more recent updates on Mixed Reality. --Lilyperr (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We finished our edits on this page. We added more research, updated examples and images to be more recent, and removed plagarism. --Lilyperr (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Plans to Edit this Article in the Near Future

message: It seems to me that mixed reality is a *generalization* of augmented reality, not a specialization. Also, this article would certainly benefit from an illustration of Milgram's continuum.
Dragice 22:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure every point on the spectrum needs its own article, since they are in effect the same thing to different degrees.  It's unclear the distinct terms for different degrees have much traction beyond the original authors.  Probably reality–virtuality continuum is enough to explain the uncommon terms augmented virtuality and mixed reality.  Augmented reality is a bit more mainstream and might cover the actual technologies involved where both real and computer-generated elements are visible at the same time. -- Beland (talk) 16:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Article seems inaccurate

message: That's tagged on the article since October 2013. Apparently there wasn't even a talk page entry yet so here's one now because I'd like to remove that tag:
* Oppose merge: two different topics. Virtuality Continuum is not about hybrid reality but about how (roughly speaking) reality is altered by virtuality. --Fixuture (talk) 19:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It has been suggested that [[Virtuality Continuum]] be merged into this article." 

message: An idea of [modified reality] has been discussed, which seems to be a more general concept than "mixed reality". Unlike augmented reality, the concept of modified reality relies on the making any transformations to sensory inputs necessary to convert it into a new reality derived from the real reality and the transformations to it.
It's different from augmented reality, because it is not a mere overlay onto real reality. Hybrid reality, as described in the article, could be achieved through both AR (augmented reality) and MR (modified reality) approaches, cause either of the paradigms of mixing realities could allow one to achieve existence of real and virtual items in the same environment.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.65.0.74 (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to Modified Reality? 

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message: I've conducted research in a mixed reality lab at the University of Michigan over the past years. The findings of our group have recently been published at the ACM Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems: http://michael-nebeling.de/publications/chi19b.pdf
The paper's main conclusion is that there is no universally accepted definition of mixed reality and instead, six partially competing notions are popular in both academia and industry. Therefore, I'd like to propose the following changes to the article to reflect this latest state of research:
* Change the definition of MR in the "AR vs. VR vs. MR" section, since it is not exhaustive. For instance, we could say: Mixed reality (MR) is a broader concept than augmented reality, as it also includes augmented virtuality (a mostly virtual environment with some real parts) and a variety of differing notions used in research and practice. It can moreover refer to specific soft- and/or hardware, such as Windows Mixed Reality.
* Add the following to the "Definition" section: Mixed reality comprises a total of six different (and partly competing) notions that are actively used in research and practice, the above definition by Milgram and Kishino being only one of them. The other notions in use are: mixed reality as a synonym for augmented reality; mixed reality as a type of collaboration (e.g., between a virtual reality user and an augmented reality user who are physically separated); mixed reality as a combination of augmented and virtual reality in the same application or system; mixed reality as an alignment of environments (e.g., tracking the state of a real environment and updating a virtual environment accordingly); and mixed reality as a "stronger" version of augmented reality, with advanced interactions and environmental understanding. Based on these notions, mixed reality experiences can be unambiguously classified along seven dimensions: the number of environments, the number of users, the level of immersion, the level of virtuality, the degree of interaction, input and output, whereas the latter two are not restricted to the visual sense, but can also include, e.g., audio, haptics, taste/flavor, smell, and motion.
Moreover, there is a reference model for augmented and mixed reality by the ISO that should maybe be mentioned in the introductory paragraph: https://www.iso.org/standard/30824.html
Thanks,
--MaxSp (talk) 11:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This should definitley be included in the main article.  Nowadays the term "mixed reality" is being used with different meanings, and there is no general consensus on which is the "correct" one. I've just checked this article and I think it well describes the several ways "mixed reality" is used today. The wikipedia main article in its current form is extremely confusing, and would benefit from a rewrite including this reference. 158.110.144.102 (talk) 11:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Differing Notions of Mixed Reality

message: *The requested changes require consensus amongst local editors on whether the desired changes are needed. 
Regards,  Spintendo  16:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 16-MAY-2019

message: Since I'm not familiar with the exact process yet: What would be specific next steps for me to take? Who are the "local editors"?
Thanks,
MaxSp (talk) 07:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 19-AUGUST-2019

message: Relation to XR (extended reality). AR, VR, AV are covered.  Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  XR 

message: There appears to be several overlapping terms for one concept which is covered here under "Blended Spaces." The sources used in this section are all relatively old (close to 10 years old or older) and a lot has happened since then. 
The other terms which appear throughout the literature include merged reality and virtual interactive presence. For example, see here, here, here, here, here, and here. 
Looking at the redirect of blended space to here (see Talk:Blended_space), it seems that it was undertaken by Rosedaler last year without any discussion or consensus. I do agree that there is a large amount of overlap, but taken together with the more recent literature on merged reality/virtual presence, blended spaces does appear to deserve its own article. A search on Google Scholar for the term "blended space" gives close to 2,500 results with thousands of citations across a wide range of disciplines including computer science, semiotics, gender studies, linguistics, political science, cognitive theory, literary theory, and other fields. I honestly don't understand how this article could be deleted and redirected here without an AfD discussion.
Virtual interactive presence or merged reality are more precise terms and basically cover all of the same instances of technology as blended spaces, without the potential for confusion that arises with a broad term which is used across multiple disciplines.
I also question how appropriate it is to have the extended theoretical discussion from the work of Fauconnier and Turner in this article. This theoretical discussion seems out of place under "Applications." Most of the applications such as military, healthcare, etc. are actual instances of mixed reality technology while blended spaces is more of a category of its own encompassing multiple diverse ideas and technologies, even if it does overlap to a large extent with mixed reality.
So I would propose reversing the redirect and expand on the concept of blended spaces in the original article. If a section on blended space is included, I would propose that it be trimmed down and be prefaced with a link to the main article. As for actually describing the instances of technologies that fall under the label of blended spaces, a section on merged reality or virtual interactive presence would be much more targeted for specific instances of mixed reality without turning the article into a theoretical jumble. Chagropango (talk) 19:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with blended space subsection 

message: I am currently taking a Coursera course from the University of Michigan called "Intro to AR/VR/AV/XR: Technologies, Applications, & Issues . The course is about trying to define the various different technologies and Dr. Michael Nebeling  (the course instructor) defines Mixed Reality as more of a spectrum much like https://xinreality.com/wiki/Main_Page does. I was wondering if we could make that perspective a more prominent idea on this page. Actually, I found that page as I was writing this post and I'm a bit confused why that website isn't just part of Wikipedia already. 
Side note: This is my first post on Wikipedia. I'm excited to join you all! MockingMockingBird (talk) 01:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I'm not getting any feedback so I'm going to start working on this on my own to implement some of my ideas. MockingMockingBird (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Just make sure everything is based on reliable sources - Wikipedia cannot use other wikis such as the one you link as a source. See WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NOR. MrOllie (talk) 20:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup! Wasn't intending to. Again, I'm really new to this so if you see I messed something up please let me know. MockingMockingBird (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixed Reality Spectrum