Talk:Coat of arms of Greece

message: Why is this called "emblem", and not "Coat of arms"?
This is not like France, Belarus or other soviet emblems that took the place of the coats of arms.
ES Vic (talk) 17:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Greek Government calls it an emblem.  El Greco(talk) 01:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, do they have, in Greek, a term as "coat of arms"? ES Vic (talk) 19:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I know this request does not have to do with the topic that you were speaking about, but I have a request. I want to know what the emblem of the KKE (Communist Party of Greece) looked like in the 1940’s. There is already a flag of the KKE from the 1940’s, so why is there no emblem? Flagsource129 (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I know this request does not have to do with the topic that you were speaking about, but I have a request. I want to know what the emblem of the KKE (Communist Party of Greece) looked like in the 1940’s. There is already a flag of the KKE from the 1940’s, so why is there no emblem? (You can see the 1940’s KKE flag in the List of Greek flags page.) Flagsource129 (talk) 23:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This is wrong. Coat of Arms is Θυρεός. Εθνόσημο means "National Emblem" and it is incorrect to call the National Emblem of Greece a "Coat of Arms". --Philly boy92 (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emblem vs. CoA 

message: The Great Greek Encyclopedia of 1934 mentions that during the 1925-1926 dictatorship of Theodoros Pangalos four new elements were added into the four parts formed by the cross of the escutcheon: a head of Athena, a helmet and a spear, a double-headed eagle and a phoenix. The escutcheon was surrounded by oak branches on the right and laurel branches on the left. 
The new design met much opposition. Later, the phoenix only was placed in the centre of the cross, as a common symbol of the First and Second Republic. 
Now, shouldn't we do some extra research on this subject? Dimboukas (talk) 16:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This accords with some images I had found on a French website long ago, depicting just such emblems and with some documentation. Sadly I have not been able to find the site again, although I've tried several times. I too think this info is worthy of inclusion in the article. Constantine   ✍  17:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I found one depiction  Dimboukas (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emblems missing 

message: There is an ongoing discussion here.
Dimboukas (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Emblem 

message: Anyone could translate this document ? I'd like to know if any presidential symbol exists for the president of the Hellenic Republic and what the official texts say about the symbols of Greece. Thank you. --Cyril-83 (talk) 11:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no presidential symbol prescribed in this law. What the law says is essentially that the flag is the old, cross-only "land flag" (this was changed to the "sea flag"in 1978), and all the seals must feature the coat of arms, the name of the relevant authority (public service, court, military unit etc) in a ring around the coat of arms, and the words "Hellenic Republic" in an outer ring, as in the examples appended in the end. Constantine   ✍  12:12, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! So can we understand that those 7 seals are official ? What authority do they symbolise? --Cyril-83 (talk) 12:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: These seals are officially sanctioned examples of the law's prescriptions. First row, L-R: national emblem, great seal of the state, seal of the Parliament. Second row, L-R: court of the first instance of Athens, Ministry of Justice, Euboea Prefecture, Athens Prosecutor's Office. As I said above, the names in the inner ring are the authority to which the seal belongs. This is the universal pattern in Greece to this day, from ministries to public schools. The same was true under the previous regimes (junta and kingdom), with the respective national emblems of the time. Constantine   ✍  12:59, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. So, this picture of the CoA of the president of the Hellenic Republic is erroneous and pure invention, if I understand well. --Cyril-83 (talk) 13:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, for a couple of reasons: First, there is no tradition in Greece of using these seals in colour or as escutcheons/emblems, like the seal of the US President. Furthermore, although I am pretty sure the Presidency uses seals of its own, they too would have to conform to the same basic design, i.e. the coat of arms, a ring with "Presidency of the Republic" (as seen in the file you linked), and then an outer ring with "Hellenic Republic". This file was used in the English-language WP once, but I removed it exactly because of its rather "imaginary" status. Be advised that there are a couple of other similarly imaginary "seals" in Commons for the PM and the Cabinet.Constantine   ✍  14:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot. --Cyril-83 (talk) 15:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem. PS, here is a copy of the actual seal of the Presidency. You see that it is used simply as a seal for documents, not as an emblem (the letterhead features the national coat of arms, as do all public services). Constantine   ✍  15:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidential seal or coat of arms 

message: Isn't it derived from the coat of arms of the Doukas family? 155.213.224.59 (talk) 15:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doukas 

message: As some of you may know, the Arms for the House of Glücksburg uploaded in this page are all inaccurate. There is an accurate version of the Greater Coat of Arms that's published on the page of the Kingdom of Greece but no lesser arms or other versions. Does anyone know anything more about this? MrMikeGR (talk) 16:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Royal Coat of Arms