Talk:Lotus Elan

message: I would like to propose that this single page be broken out into three separate pages - the Lotus Elan, Lotus Elan +2, and Lotus Elan M100 (or something like that).  I feel that each major car should have its own page, car specs, history, and relevant information.
Alternatively, of course, three distinct sections could be made on this page.  Anyone have any comments, thoughts, or other suggestions?
Heggalek 23:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see any need to split this page. The article is still of a very manageable size, realistically the page doesn't need to cover everything and nor could it, for that the various cars would need a wiki all of their own. M100 00:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: While I agree with your comments on production numbers (guesstimates by Johnson, that are DEMONSTRABLY wrong) have no place in an encyclopedia) I do believe that the M100 should be split off and given its own page. The two Elans have NOTHING in common beyond their name - there is no connection or resemblance. 1960s vs 1990s, front wheel drive vs rear, massive success vs commercial failure......... unsigned comment  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.136.2.150 (talk) 11:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate Pages for Separate Cars? 

message: The 340R was a production car. But I can't change that table, so if someone knows how... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.227.122.142 (talk) 22:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table at the bottom 

message: The front drive version of this "Lotus" did not receive any positive or even mixed reviews from the mainstream motoring press.  By an large, this car was (justifiably) regarded as a complete joke totally undeserving of the Louts name.  A Pontiac Fiero re-badged as a Ferrari would have in fact been vastly more credible.  It was no more a real Lotus than Chrysler's TC by Maserati was a real Maserati.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.73.57 (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "mixed reviews" 

message: I have updated the article to reflect the cancellation of the new Elan project.Mr Tangle (talk) 07:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Elan cancelled 

message: The Plus 2 needs fuller treatment and a less flowery description  (the current one reads like a bad advert).  I shall write something when I have a spare few minutes.Mr Tangle (talk) 07:52, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that's right - needs a precis and clean up - the 'Emma Peel' reference has become considerably displaced!--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elan Plus 2 

message: I don't know which transmissions were used except my memory of my Father's 68 Elan.  I am pretty sure it was a 4 speed, definitely manual. I can't find any mention of it in the article and wanted to see if anyone could provide that information.Mechans (talk) 16:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The usual 5 speed upgrade (popular in the 1980s) was to use internals from (of all bizarre things) the Austin Maxi. Several other gearboxes appeared, including the Ford 2000E. Web search for it - plenty of people still support the early Elan. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transmission of 60s Elan 

message: (May 26, 2018)
I have just submitted a large change to the segment on the 1960s/1970s Elan. This is my first big Wikipedia edit, so I hope I haven't messed up too badly.
All the original text for this segment has been retained, with some reorganization and associated minor edits. I updated the Overview, Production and Owners sections, and added sections on:
*Reviews
*Influence
*Racing
*Construction (with subsections)
*Major Component Suppiers (I'm not sure if this section is needed)
*Weight
*Performance
*Price
*Collectability
+2 Segment: I added minor additional content to the +2 segment, and broke it into Overview, Construction, Performance and Production sections.
Also added a couple of gallery pictures and fixed up the Type 26 Register external link.
(M100 Segment: I made no changes to the M100 segment, except: added a reference to the Vigato, which was marked "Citation required," and clarified one sentence that referred to the 1960s/1970s Elan.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grenadille (talk • contribs) 12:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960s/1970s Elan segment update 

message: (October 31, 2018)
Several updates:
1960s/1970s Elan section:
*NicholasLeeHansen updated the Front & Rear suspension sections a while ago (thanks - it was needed!). Tweaked the text to (hopefully) improve the flow and add a bit more detail. 
*Added a newly found weight from an original 1500 Elan brochure.
*Minor revamp of the Performance segment. Added a new table using Robinshaw/Ross data, shortened the overly long Sprint table.
*Added a new segment - "Series (model) differences" - to tabulate how the S1-Sprint models differed. Not particularly happy with the result, but the table is needed so it's a start. 
*Realized that there were two Bibliography segments, so coalesced them into one.
*Added Brian Buckland's book the to the Bibliography and used it as a reference in the Series differences segment. How it has been missing for so long is a mystery.
*A few other trivial fixes.
+2:
*Nicholas corrected the MacPherson strut references to double wishbone references in the 60s/70s segment. Fixed up the +2 segment to match.
M100:
*No changes
Grenadille (talk) 15:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960s/1970s Elan segment update 

message: (26 December 2018)
Lotus Elan 1500, 1600, S2, S3, S4, Sprint:
Update to make the page more consistent with the standards suggested at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Conventions
This primarily involved changes to the Power/Torque/Performance tables.
*A few typos fixed.
*A few minor details added to the Suspension/steering/brakes, Major component suppliers, and Series differences sections.
Elan +2:
Typo fixed.
M100:
No changes
Grenadille (talk) 17:47, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960s/1970s Elan segment update 

message: (14 March 2019)
Recent discussions in www.lotuselan.net make it clear that Wikipedia entry gets the combinations of Type 36/45 & S3/S4/Sprint completely wrong and this is verified in Robinshaw & Ross. This has been wrong for a very long time, a mistake made by an early contributor (not me!) using Michael Sedgwick & Mark Gillies A-Z of Cars as the reference point. I've never seen this book so can't be sure. Anyway, I fixed the page up per Robinshaw & Ross, a highly reliable source.
Several other minor fixups while I was at it. New references from GQ magazine, YouTube and www.thetruthaboutcars.com. 
Grenadille (talk) 00:32, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no expertise to share on this, but you deserve to be thanked for tidying the thing up.   So thank you.   And success Charles01 (talk) 08:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960s/1970s Elan segment update 

message: (7 September 2019)
Finally got around to improving the Gallery for the Elan and +2 sections. Having attended LOG 39 (the US Lotus Owners Group annual meeting) in Sturbridge, Massachusetts in August, 2019 I was able to take pictures of a wide range of Elans.
The only wrinkle is that they were all left hand drive cars, which is a shame for an English built car, but hopefully the updated gallery is better than nothing (even the London Science Museum's Elan rolling chassis exhibit was left hand drive). In an attempt to balance things I have included a few RHD photos from Wikimedia Commons. Anyway, somebody else can add their photos.
I moved the previous "Lotus Elan 1500, 1600, S2, S3, S4, Sprint" Infobox photo (in the right hand side-panel), which was of a rather bland S2, to the Gallery and replaced it with a photo of a much sharper S4. The old photo was low resolution and cluttered with another car in the background. Wikipedia advises using a high resolution photo with minimal background clutter. So I guess it's worth trying to do this for the Infobox photo, at least.
Other changes:
* Split the Elan gallery into sections (e.g. one for each Series)
* Added Harry Metcalfe and his Elan Youtube video to the Owners section
* Added door/bonnet/boot weights, because I happen to have them
* Added door dimensions, comparing Elan with E-Type and MG-B
* Updated the Pricing section to reflect that some kits apparently needed the rear suspension to be installed by the purchaser (which can't have been fun). Included a reference to an article on kit construction
* Removed a broken reference to the Lotus Elise
* Created a small Gallery for the +2 section
* Fixed a trivial Wikipedia html markup convention error in the M100 section
Grenadille (talk) 12:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960s/1970s Elan segment update