Talk:List of Crash Bandicoot characters/Archive 1

message: Why does this article list the Japanese versions of the characters' names? This is a western game series, out in tons of other languages. Why not list the German, Italian or Spanish versions of their names? That's right, it's pointless.
This is like a whole new level of japanophilia.
:Most likely, people do this because the publisher is located in Japan. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kanji names? 

message: Penta penguin redirects here, but there's no info bout it Kiran 12:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penta 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:TwinsanityBrio.PNG 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:TwinsanityBrio.PNG 

message: I made a titan page, but it needs some working up. I was suprised there wasn't one yet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobb (talk • contribs) 02:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure the Titans need their own article? I mean they've only appeared in one game. Cat's Tuxedo 10:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titans page 

message: I removed the line about how she dramatically changed in CotT. She acted and behaved almost exactly the same as in CTTR.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobb (talk • contribs) 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nina 

message: Shouldn't we add a page for Nina? She seems to be getting more and more major with every passing game.ADBandicoot (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nina's own page 

message: I've tagged Uka Uka to be merged into this list.  Uka Uka is a single character in the game series with no notability outside of the game. Individual game character articles like this usually fail notability requirements.  The bulk of the article is game guide and plot type stuff. The "Conception and creation" seems to attempt to provide some real world context, but it still isn't very notable and can be covered easily in the respective game articles. AnmaFinotera (talk) 10:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since you refuse to allow a merge discussion and improperly removed my tagging as vandalism, the article has been sent to AfD. AnmaFinotera (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: What, just because you hate Uka Uka, or you've never played the Crash series (as you seem to think he's a "single" character, when he's had 10 or so appearances) you don't think he deserves an article? I see no logic in that, I'm sorry. If it had some proper reasons, then I'd understand. But there isn't. The absance of any that make sense only suggest the two I mentioned. CBFan (talk) 21:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is NOT a a game guide.  I've already given you one of the most important reasons for his not needing a separate article: he is a video game character with no REAL WORLD notability.  Being in 10 games doesn't make him anymore notable than being in one.  He is still a video game character and the article makes no assertion of notability that meets the Wikipedia notability guidelines. The same criteria applies to all fictional characters, including show characters. Your presumption that I must hate Uka Uka or have never played the Crash is a red herring argument and one I find ironic since I'm currently playing Crash 3.  Love/Hate has nothing to do with it, its application of the policy in a neutral fashion. AnmaFinotera (talk) 23:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the rest of the topic. He clearly IS legimate. And, once again, your reasons for deletion make no sense. Of course he has no real world notability... he's a video game character. By your logic, Crash Bandicoot himself would not be allowed to have his own article. Mario would not be allowed to have his own article. Heck, even Darth Vader would not be allowed to have his own article. By your (flawed) logic, no fictional character would be allowed to have his/her own article. You need to think of some PROPER reasons, because you're not providing any. CBFan (talk) 11:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Crash Bandicoot, Mario, and Darh Vader have articles because they have had a number of appearances and parodies outside their respective series. Uka Uka hasn't appeared anywhere outside the Crash Bandicoot series. Outside the Crash Bandicoot series, Uka Uka is barely notable. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 18:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Now that we've actually come up with an acceptable compromise, I don't have any problems with this. CBFan (talk) 19:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge of Uka Uka 

message: My article that I created for the Yuktopus has been deleted and the search now redirected here. And the post I made here on the Yuktopus has since disappeared as has my bit on Baby-T. Has someone deleted this or what? Can someone help?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk • contribs) 11:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Individual character articles are generally discouraged as they fail the notability requirements for fictional articles.  Someone removed your article and redirected it here because it the character is unnotable and an individual article should not have been created.  If you feel that particular character is somehow notable to the series as a whole, feel free to post your argument here for discussion.  Your additions to this page were removed by another editor, and again by me, as unnecessary game guide level information, which Wikipedia is not (see WP:NOT AnmaFinotera (talk) 12:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I originally did the redirect, but I see that the Yuktopus section was removed from the page... — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 16:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuktopus 

message: Since it has become apparent that the characters of Crash Bandicoot have no real-world notability by themselves, I have a proposal. Since the list of characters is becoming rather long, let's split the list into two articles, catering to major and minor characters in the series respectively. Characters that have appeared in at least four of the six main games (i.e. Crash Bandicoot, Aku Aku, Coco Bandicoot, Doctor Neo Cortex, Doctor N. Gin, Tiny Tiger, Uka Uka, and Dingodile) will be put in the major characters article. The rest will go into the minor characters page. How about that? Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 21:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest trimming the longer sections in this article down before bothering to split it. Just by indiscriminately cutting paragraphs, I was able to get it down to thirty kilobytes. I imagine if done correctly, thirty five to forty kilobytes wouldn't be too hard. TTN (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I'm cleaning up in the spin off character list now and was both shocked and amused to realize that the same paragraph was being repeated three times in that section. :P AnmaFinotera (talk) 22:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Oppose.  Very minor characters should be removed.  If they are not notable in the game or are just generic/common enemies, there is no need to list them and their inclusion heads towards game guide material.  For the rest, clean up and cut down to focus on voices, basic description of character personality and appearance, and game appearances and basic role.  3-4 paragraphs are not needed to cover this.  For most characters, this should be coverable in just 1 paragraph, while more major characters may need 2-3. We don't want or need to give a blow-by-blow of every thing they did in the game, just a short summary.  For more characters, 1 sentence per game is more than enough to summarize their role for each game appearance, at most.AnmaFinotera (talk) 21:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about "No", that is blatant biasey AND it defeats the whole logic (of which yours is heavily flawed) of having a "List for (video game) characters", especially when you take the other great gaming legends into account. CBFan (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal 

message: Because of sock-puppetry and block evasion, I have reprotected this page.  I regret that this is necessary.  It is semi-protected, so established and trusted users should have no problem editing the page.  - Philippe | Talk 20:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protected again 

message: Has been vandalised. Needs removing, please. Otley (talk) 15:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  - Philippe | Talk 16:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Eh, I just realized this is a brand new account.  You're right, you can't fix it.  Perhaps someone else will.  I don't have enough experience with the subject matter to do it myself.  - Philippe | Talk 16:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ripper Roo