Talk:Nuthatch

message: *Ecology of the White-browed Nuthatch Sitta victoriae in Natmataung National Park, Myanmar, with notes on other significant species
:If you can't access this let me know and I wil email it. Otherwise there doesn't seem to be much for the family. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 22:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that, I didn't  find this when searching - there's masses on europea and the NAm species, but, as you say, little on the family as such, or the Asian species. jimfbleak (talk) 06:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Potential sources for Asian species

message: Do you want to mention that the Nuthatch Vanga and the sitellas were once placed in this family? How about that the element -hatch is related to hack through palatalization, like kirk and church, bake and batch, etc.?  (I don't have a good source for that.) —JerryFriedman  (Talk) 04:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuthatch ? Shyamal (talk) 06:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that too -I thought you were in Scandinavia? jimfbleak (talk) 07:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other rejects, etymology 

message: The GA review is archived. It can be found here. Dr. Cash (talk) 21:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: Are the "onlyinclude" marks needed before and after table. What do they do? Snowman (talk) 09:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: don't know, I put them in because the source I copied the code from had them. jimfbleak (talk) 11:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to be something to do with templates (see :Help:Template). As there are no templates here, I guess that they can be removed. Snowman (talk) 12:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Agreed, it could be formatted like List of birds of Fiji. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 21:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I have no problem with this in principle, the depth of the rows in this case is dictated by the images, and doing as you suggest would not reduce the overall amount of white space, just move more of it to the wider range column. However, if you want to change the format, please go ahead. jimfbleak (talk) 06:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: Nuthatch in a Japanese set of photos on flickr. Can the species be identified? Snowman (talk) 11:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any idea of the location? yunnanensis seems close, but quite unsure. Shyamal (talk) 11:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like yunnanensis, but to see this poorly-known species you would need to go to SW China, so location is important 11:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Sitta europea asiatica? Occurs in N. Japan, thin supercilium, white throat and breast, buff wash to lower belly, rear flanks jimfbleak (talk) 12:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are few clues to location that I could find. It appears to be in a set of Japanese photos with some from zoos. Snowman (talk) 12:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As the nuthatch has not been identified with certitude, I have not uploaded it. Snowman (talk) 11:10, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: S. yunnanensis has a much thicker loral trait (it should be two times bigger) and a more distinct white supercilium. Looks S. europaea amurensis (sometimes called hondoensis in Japan) to me. S. europaea asiatica does occur in North Japan (morphs takatsukasai and clara), but they seem to have fully white underparts. Here some interesting material, whith helpful plates. Totodu74 (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identification of a Nuthatch 

message: Not putting this in the FAC b/c I wouldn't want it to hold the article, and I'm not up to a full FAC commentary.
I'm not clear that the table is absolutely necessary, especially given how the images are differing in status and existence (while I agree schematic images are better than no images, I don't think they carry well in this FAC. They also lengthen the table unnecessarily IMHO). Also, it completely obscures the phylogenetic organization of the genus. Finally, I think the list would be better placed as an independent section. Circeus (talk) 20:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The factual data in the table, the species list and range obviously need to be there, so it's the images that are really the issue. The choices are, I suppose, to take them out altogether, reduce size further or move them to a gallery. The first two in effect are the same, and galleries are not popular at fac. At present, there seems to a split view on the list, but if it looks like becoming a pass/fail issue, I'll take them out.jimfbleak (talk) 06:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put in a heading, and reduced image size, thanks for the typo fix (O, the shame) jimfbleak (talk) 06:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually stumbling upon this article, I was so glad that the schematics were there and thought it was a lovely, wonderful idea to include them. Please don't remove them! Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, the work mostly done by User:Shyamal jimfbleak (talk) 05:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

text: The table has been discussed in the FAC discussion. I think that the addition of the "(population if known)" in with the range is a very useful addition to the information contained within the table. Credit for this to User:Jimfbleak for adding the details and to the reviewer who asked about population numbers. Snowman (talk) 08:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Species table

message: The linked species page on the Pygmy Nuthatch (100 mm) seems to say that it is smaller than the Brown-headed nuthatch (105mm), which is reported here the Brown-headed nuthatch is the smallest nuthatch. It may or may not be this article that is incorrect, nevertheless, this inconsistency should be sorted out. Snowman (talk) 14:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a genuine discrepancy between good sources, I've modified the wording, please check. Apologies for the outburst on FAC, I'm still not convinced, but at the time I thought you were expecting me to do all the work. I wouldn't withdraw just because Tony has opposed, he always does, and isn't prepared to help either. There are still two support votes, and if it doesn't get through, I won't lose sleep, just get Greater Crested Tern on track instead. jimfbleak (talk) 17:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

message: * according to IOC World Bird Names, shouldn't we add those new species to table as some of the split ones as Sitta cinnamoventris already added?
*:Siberian Nuthatch Sitta arctica split from S. europaea (Zink et al. 2006, Red’kin & Konovalova 2006, Collar 2007)
*:Burmese Nuthatch Sitta neglecta split from S. castanea (Rasmussen & Anderton 2005)
*:Przevalski's Nuthatch Sitta przewalskii split from S. leucopsis (Rasmussen & Anderton 2005)  --Mskyrider (talk) 15:14, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  new classification 

message: I've reinstated the merge request as per the discussion at WP:Bird; with the removal of Wallcreeper, these two pages now cover the same topic. SP-KP (talk) 19:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and given that this is a FA and the other merely a start there won't be much to merge here. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 20:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

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message: The article doesn't mention what time of the year nuthatches breed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.39 (talk) 04:51, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breeding season? 

message: Do all nuthatches descend trees head-first and hang upside down from twigs, etc., or only some of them?  If all (or even most), the article might make more of a characteristic easily spotted by the lay reader. Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 14:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gymnastics