Talk:HMS Victorious (R38)

message: Could this be mentioned in here? (Msrasnw (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Raid on Kirkenes and Petsamo]] 

message: for info others can choose if its notable but I do note that passengers heading to the uk were transferred to another ship aftre sectionsof the bow fell off.  Gnangarra 02:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  damaged 1946 

message: This article has some more detail on her period as Robin.Le Deluge (talk) 15:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin 

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message: I think we should restore the photo of the kamikaze attack on Formidable. Agreed it's not a photo of ths subject of this article, but it was being used to illustrate a battle in which Victorious was attacked in a similar way, and I think it helps to understand the subject. Kendall-K1 (talk) 12:57, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamikaze photo 

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message: regarding the little contretemps wrt commas.  In a list, if the last two items are being considerd as one, then it is fine to omit the comma, but when all items on the list are separate items in their own right, as is the case here, then the final comma before the and is required.  BTW, the comma in Grible's last but one edit was not "inside the quotes" there were no quotes at all.  What looks like quotes in the edit screen are italic markers, whether or not the comma is rendered in italics is a minor formatting consideration, not a grammatical error. - Nick Thorne talk 23:25, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Nick, referring back to my copy of Fowler's, it's known as the Oxford comma!  Apparently deprecated by some scholars but recommended by others.  Obviously, my former English teacher, a Cambridge man IIRC, was of the former persuasion!  Apologies about the confusion on "quotes" but I though putting "inverted commas" might lead to confusion, given the subject. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:33, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

text: It has it's own article under Serial Comma. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest we're not the first two to clash over the use of it. Grible (talk) 13:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, sorry about the mix-up. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:18, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commas 

message: The article currently states that one of the major changes during her reconstruction was the fitting of new steam turbines, referenced to the 2014 article by Hobbs in Ships Monthly - the problem is I cannot find any sources that corroborate this - although all sources refer to new BOILERs being one of the changes brought in half way through the refit that put costs up so much. Sources checked included Hobbs's article in 2020 issue of Warship, Apps, Conway's and D. K Brown's Rebuilding the Royal Navy - can someone check whether the Ships Monthly actually does say this, and if so, whether it is backed up by any other sources.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The Hobbs article doesn't mention new turbines - the text was added [here] (with the cite) back in 2015 by an ip - the question is how much more has been added under false pretences.Nigel Ish (talk) 11:11, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New steam turbines? 

message: The crew is about 1200 before and 2200-2400 after the refit. If true, this should be explicitly commented to avoid that a reader considers it a misprint.Suppongoche (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  crew 

message: This section includes awards from before the ship was built. Is there an explanation for this? If so could it be put in comments to explain the reason, and prevent people like me from thinking it's a mistake? DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:18, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The British Battle Honour system recognizes successful actions of a particular ship and prior ships of the same name. In this case the carrier Victorious inherited three honours from the 1785 third-rate, two from the 1808 third-rate, and none from the Majestic-class battleship, while earning nine honours of her own. The current Vanguard-class submarine inherited honours from all prior ships bearing the name Victorious. This is distinctly different from the American practice, where campaign stars and other awards are not formally passed down to later ships that bear the same name (and will be awarded even for battles that were lost, the British generally do not authorize honours for "a British defeat, or when the action was inconclusive and badly fought".)  Beachedwhale1945 (talk) 14:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honours and awards