Talk:Fender Stratocaster

message: You ever come here, Jeff? This article seems like it could use some of your help, along with some links to your info. Darr247 (talk) 21:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Xhefri's stuff is great, but it might fall foul of WP:RSSELF as far as Wikipedia is concerned.  (If Xhefri has or were to publish magazine articles or book, that could be ideal.)  My preference would be to treat Xhefri's stuff as a great resource for enthusiasts in its own right, additional to Wikipedia. The Parson's Cat (talk) 08:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Hey Xhefri!

message: "The "quacky" tone of the middle and bridge pickups, popularized by players such as David Gilmour, Rory Gallagher, Mark Knopfler, Bob Dylan, Scott Thurston, Ronnie Wood, Eric Clapton and Robert Cray, can be obtained by using the pickup selector into positions 2 and 4."
The 2 position combines the middle and the neck pickup, not the middle and bridge pickups.  Both 2 and 4 are quacky, but this sentence makes it sound like both the 2 and 4 pickups are a combination of the middle and bridge pickups, which is inaccurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.198.184 (talk) 06:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In Fender's current service diagrams, position one is 'bridge' and position five is 'neck'.  However I see exactly what you mean about he ambiguity and I hope I've fixed this OK. The Parson's Cat (talk) 15:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Nitpicky bit about the 5 way selector switch

message: Why is there nothing about the history of how the guitar was designed?  There's no mention of the feedback Fender got from Bill Carson, who the guitar was designed for. It does mention it at the article Bill Carson (musician) however. Who designed the shape? (Freddie Tavares). Very little facts here except for models and sales, etc.
This article is more like Fender ad copy.
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No mention of the "The Strat" model in the 80s with gold-plated hardware, color matched headstock, special wiring.
174.89.103.189 (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 04:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Should this be included in the Signature series section? Apparently it was limited edition made in 2004 and 100 were made. I don't know if this signature list includes limited editions. These can be found for sale on the internet from various dealers.  I don't have full specs from a reliable source, but I know they're out there somewhereKaleeyed (talk) 13:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ike Turner signature strat? 

message: The Stratocaster's shape, called the  "Comfort Contour Body" by Fender, ) differed from the Telecaster's slab-like design. The Stratocaster's double cutaways gave players easier access to higher positions on the neck,Balmer 20  and the body's recessed "beer gut" concave curve on the upper back, and a gradual chamfer arm rest on the front, gave player's  right arm rest, gave players a more comfortable guitar to play. The "dogleg" style headstock of the Startocasdters contrasted with the narrow headstock shape of the Telecaster.
The strings were anchored and the back side of the body through the pivot bridge, which had springs in a 'claw' attached to screws in the in the tremolo cavity of the guitar's underside. Early Stratocasters had floating five springs mounted under the bridge to anchor the bridge flat against the body when not in use. Players who removed two of the five bridge springs and adjust the claw screws found they could affect a 'floating bridge' which allowed the strings to be pulled by a tremolo arm ("whammy bar") in one direction for a higher pitch, or the other direction to lower pitch. Jeff Beck and Ike Turner are two notable players who have extensively used in their playing the Strat's floating tremolo. But other players, such as Eric Clapton, unhappy with the floating bridge's propensity to detune guitars, prohibited the bridge's movement with wood wedged between the bridge block and the inside cutout of the tremolo cavity to lock the bridge in a fixed position. (Luthier Gelazzo Fradua says that floating bridges can stay in tune through tuning techniques specific to a floating bridge.http://www.youtube.com/fruduatv#p/u/10/O0Oyc6slYRc) Stratocasters called "hard-tails" forgo a floating bridge and  tremelo bar, having instead a fixed bridge that cannot effect pitch change.
In its original form the Stratocaster featured three single coil pickups which could be separately activated with  3-way switch near the bridge. But guitarists discovered that different tonal qualities could be induced by leaving the selector switch between the bridge and middle pickup, or the neck and middle pickup, thereby activating two pickups at once.Balmer 23. The popularity of this trick led to Fender producing a 5-way pickup selector (a standard feature since 1977) which had added fixed 2 and 4 positions for easier and more reliable in-between pickup selection.
Players known for often using the 2 and four pickup potions include David Gilmour, Rory Gallagher, Mark Knopfler, Scott Thurston, Eric Clapton and Robert Cray. The neck and middle pickups are typically wired to separate tone controls that have a shared tone capacitor which allows players to roll off the higher frequencies. To maintain its inherent brightness, the bridge pickup  has no tone control  slanted closer towards the bridge on the high strings for a more trebly sound. Another technique to  diminish higher frequencies on all pickups is to lower the Strat's volume control below its peak.
Fender placed the volume and tone control knobs on the Stratocaster to enable ready access of players' picking hand. In  certain recent editions of Stratocasters, an additional tone control is dedicated to the neck pickup, and another tone control is for both the middle and bridge pickups. On Fender's Eric Clapton Stratocaster, for instance, and other select guitars from their Artist Series models - such as the  Buddy Guy signature model, one knob is for a presence circuit which cuts or boosts treble and bass frequencies on all pickups, while a  second control knob can actively  boost the midrange frequencies up to 25dB (12dB on certain models) for a fatter  humbucker-like sound. On these models, as well as on the majority of Stratocasters, a single volume knob controls the level on all three pickups.
The three pickups were originally identical in construction, including output specifications. But the popularity of combining pickups in parallel combinations preceded Fender's introduction a reverse-wound, reverse-polarity middle pickup having a magnetic polarity contrary to the neck and bridge pickups. The  middle pickup has a wire wound in the reverse direction around the bobbin compared to the other neck and bridge pickups. This caused a hum-canceling effect with this configuration (removing hum induced by poorly shielded, medium to high output AC devices) in positions 2 and 4 on the selector switch. A similar method of using two pickups to cancel hum had long been used by Fender, notably to their  Precision Bass. Currently, Fenders with more than one single-coil pickup (most notably the Stratocaster, Telecaster and Jazz Bass) use hum-canceling pickup configurations.
:As a courtesy, I'm going to wait one more day, at least, before moving the new text in. Please comment.The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 18:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial design and subsequent developments 

message: The DuPont paint for 5% more is repeated twice in the article - therefore it's redundant. ICE77 (talk) 06:50, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Noticed it's mentioned in the lead section, which seems misplaced.  If I have some time over the weekend I might have a go at rewriting the lead section to more properly summarise the content.  Should be more important to have it mention why the guitar is important, some of its influence in music and instrument manufacturing, etc... Feel free to beat me to the editing though, and thanks for the good work you've done so far!  Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 14:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  DuPont paint redundancy 

message: There are a bunch of links that link to a Fender Stratocaster#Signature models but there is no section on the page. I propose we bring it back. 106.68.213.89 (talk) 06:18, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the signature models section? 

message: For the moment, I've blanked the section that runs on at length about Squier Stratocasters, rather than (read the headline) Fender Stratocasters. Discussion ought to be properly put under Squier.
Most of the article reads as a mix of OR and fanboy POV. Even at that, there are gross oversights scattered about, for instance that the primary Design developments section gives no information about the development of the design. If I were to mark up all the claims and "real facts" that are pasted in without substantiation, the tags would double the article's bytes. Overall, it's a very poor piece. Weeb Dingle (talk) 00:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is there nothing about the history of how the guitar was designed? There's no mention of the feedback Fender got from Bill Carson, who the guitar was designed for. It does mention it at the article Bill Carson (musician) however. Who designed the shape? (Freddie Tavares). Very little facts here except for models and sales, etc.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

text: Does Rex Gallion deserve any credit for the body shape?Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squier is not Fender, & other problems 

message: I propose that Fender Strat Plus be merged into Fender Stratocaster. At the moment, the content of Fender Strat Plus is poorly sourced.  Once the content in the Fender Strat Plus article has  been cut back to what is verifiable, I think that it can easily be explained in the context of Fender Stratocaster, and the Fender Stratocaster article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Fender Strat Plus will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 
The Parson's Cat (talk) 10:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{anchor|Merger from Fender Strat Plus}}Merger proposal 

message: (Mostly a note to myself, but anyone can have at it.) The Design developments section needs overhaul. First, it sails off in a few clear directions that can readily be broken up, then better addressed on merits. For starters, there's a bunch about the Fender floating tremolo (esp. springs).Weeb Dingle (talk) 19:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had a brief look - to me, it felt that while there was lots of detail, we were missing an overview describing what a Stratocaster actually is.  I've had a first attempt, but I'm sure it can be enhanced. The Parson's Cat (talk) 08:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Design stuff 

message: Basic information to add to this article:  where the name comes from.  Is it related to the word "stratosphere"? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 04:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article