Talk:The Seekers

message: This doesn't seem like a very flattering article for Australia's number one musical group for decades... but I don't have time to rewrite it now. Several generations of Australian children grew up to the music of the Seekers (I was one of them...) Sure their songs were conservative but they were also bloody good musicians/songwriters/performers...  KJ
"Remarkable string of hits" doesn't sound much like a neutral pov either  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.199.150 (talk) 19:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I don't think that anyone has limited this article due to them being controversial.  I think that the article just hasn't evolved yet. North8000 (talk) 01:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: This article would benefit from a selective discography and a table showing their charting singles in Aust/UK/USA. --Design 03:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: I have transferred the personal info about Buddy England from The Seekers article to his own Buddy England page. Figaro 01:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddy England 

message: The Morningtown Ride article says this reached #1 in the UK, but this article says #2. Who's right? 86.136.248.116 (talk) 16:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morningtown Ride 

message: I was the one who put in the recently deleted critical acclaim section.   I did it in response  to the general tone of the article as noted by one poster: "This doesn't seem like a very flattering article for Australia's number one musical group for decades".  As I noted at the time, my addition was admittedly weak per WP standards.   However, I was hoping it would be a seed/stub  for development of the needed section rather than get deleted. North8000 (talk) 17:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recently Removed Critical Acclaim Section 

message: Shaidar cuebiyar, so nice to see work being done on the article! North8000 (talk) 00:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the feedback. I'm now finished my part and have assessed the article as B-class.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: So nice to see work being done on the article!

message: (copy of section from my talk page North8000 (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Proculled.   To explain.  It is a common form of vandalism for folks to change numbers etc. in articles, we usually call that "subtle vandalism"   Your change, being while not logged in, and with no edit summary raised a concern that that might be the case.   So I reverted your change and wrote the following edit summary:  "Don't know if this was subtle vandalism or a correction. Please talk to us if it was the latter. Thanks"   So we were looking for you to just touch base on the article talk page (or make your edit with an explanation/edit summary) to indicate that it was a sincere edit and put your edit back in.  I'll put your edit back in.  Also, it looks like you are new to Wikipedia, and are knowledgeable on and have sources on the The Seekers. That article could really use somebody like you there.   Please stick around and edit the article and let me know if I can help.  Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 14:08, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edit at [[The Seekers]] article

message: In January 1968, on Australia Day, in recognition of its achievements, the group was named joint Australians of the Year – the only group to have this honour bestowed upon it.[27][28] They personally accepted their awards from Harold Holt, the Prime Minister of Australia, during their tour. [29]
: Well, blow me down!  I could have sworn Harold Holt drowned in the surf at Cheviot Beach on 17 December 1967, almost 6 weeks before Australia Day 1968.  In the meantime, we'd had two (2) replacement Prime Ministers: John McEwen 19 Dec 1967 - 10 Jan 1968; and John Gorton 10 Jan 1968 onwards.  
: So, what does the source say?  --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 11:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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message: There has been a recent edit war over whether the article should say "The Seekers are..." or "The Seekers is..." Per this discussion in the WP:MOS, the plural ("are/were") for musical groups is the preferred form in British English, while the singular ("is/was") may be more favoured in U.S. English. There is the further issue that The Seekers are an Australian group, and therefore this article should perhaps reflect Australian English usage. I note that most WP articles on Australian groups use the plural (e.g. The Easybeats, Hunters & Collectors, The Sports) – but cf. The Choirboys. Comments welcome. Tagging User:Rob Napier. Muzilon (talk) 12:39, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and I'm from the US.  There are two additional reasons to support your view.  One is that the really hard core grammar people say / agree that "sounds right" in normal conversation counts, and treating a plural word as plural sounds right. Second is that the name itself refers to a group of people which is plural. So if you let that flow through,  a reference to them is a reference to a group of people just as much as it is a reference to the band as a singular entity. North8000 (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that even in U.S. English, "are/were" is preferred when the band's name is definite article + plural noun, e.g. The Drifters, The Crystals, and "is/was" may be used if the band's name doesn't have the definite article, e.g. Barenaked Ladies (OK, they're a Canadian band, but that's another matter!) Muzilon (talk) 00:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular/plural verb debate