Talk:Dearne Valley line

message: The Dearne Valley Line (DVL) is one example of an article which has no historic input. The National Rail (NL) website  here shows that - as a PR job I suspect - they have named certain sections/lengths of line. The named one was on the stub list. As a start it was necessary to rename the article from xxxx line to xxxx Line, since that is the full title. Secondly, the article carries no historic base for the naming of the line, which I have now included: it was, and still is, a main artery joining two places (Sheffild and York) by means of a joint working arrangement. 
I then discovered that, for some reason, the stations on the line were divided as to their location - odd, since the whole thing is an entity. The further problem was that other lines, also named like the DVL had been treated in exactly the same way - only the modern existence is covered with no historical background whatsoever. A glance at the NL list will show that there are quite a few of those lines, and it is obvious that many are named as they are because of their history. I shall try to find out how many of them are articled, but this will take some time. Peter Shearan 13:11, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's obvious at all! That list (now here) is a handy reference to some of the names currently knocking about (frequently of recent commercial invention, and not guaranteed to survive franchise changes), but "National Rail" (the marketing name of ATOC) does not have any lines to name, and nor do the TOCs. What they do have ownership of are passenger services and the companies' marketing departments are fond of "branding" these services with a name which often ends in "Line" -- but these are "lines" more in the sense of a shipping line than a railway line (a physical route which may carry far more than just a passenger service), and do not necessarily correspond to the real, physical lines, owned by Network Rail. The National Rail list is, in any case, a jumble of historic all-traffic route names (the North & West Line) and passenger-service marketing names (ATW's Marches Line), but doesn't mention Wikipedia's "Welsh Marches Line"! -- Picapica 12:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, it does have an historical significance. It's just historically this was the Swinton and Knottingley Joint, whilst the Dearne Valley Line was a completely different line! the Solipsistic Snallygaster warns you not to click on this link 10:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  From PNA/Transport

message: I've entered the opening dates of the different sections of the route, as well as giving a basic description of the services which use bits of the route today. I don't have books at hand to talk about the significance of the route or its operational history; the dates and constructing companies will have to do for now!
Eborbuses 02:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical data 

message: Substituted at 13:04, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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