Talk:David Jones (retailer)

message: It is simply not true to say that David Jones stores are planned to open in Indooroopilly, Cairns, Frankston, cannington, Rockingham, Darwin and Hobart.  Come on - I mean, Darwin?!  There is no support for these claims and the references should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.9.200.3 (talk) 06:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlikely/unsupported new stores 

message: Wikipedia is not a directory and this page should not become a listing of stores. Whoever keeps adding this info (Mr Jones?) please don't. Nomadtales 10:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maintaining a listing of every DJs retail outlet is nonsense. What next? List every McDonald's in the world? ... WWGB 12:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stores Listing 

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replies: text: Added.  Lankiveil 13:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Davidjoneslogo.gif

message: "Most clients are of socio-economic A & B group".  Okay, I can make a guess, but it appears without any real context in the middle of the article as to what these groups are.  Lankiveil 13:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does this sentence mean? 

message: Just an omission, and one I don't have the background knowledge to source - David Jones acquired the Aherns chain of stores in Perth (which were Myer's main rival in Perth) to establish a presence in Perth in (I'm guessing) about 2001 or 2002 (this primary-sourced article announces the decision in 1999  but seemed to imply a much later opening date, and I remember shopping at Aherns in 2000-01). Prior to that they had no WA presence. Anyone want to have a go at looking that up and putting it in in an appropriate place? :) Orderinchaos 13:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aherns 

message: Given that a large percentage of the company's profits, as well as recent high profile media attention to the 'outsourcing' of the DJs card to major banks, is it worth adding something on this particular part of the business to the article? 60.241.179.94 14:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as it doesn't sound like and advert for the card, I'm fine for a mention. Michellecrisp 02:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Have added same, spurred by AFR article on Aust retailers and banks Murtoa (talk) 00:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Jones card 

message: Maybe in David Jones' dreams, reality no.  I shuttle between the USA and Australia frequently and I would put DJ's on par with Bloomingdales, definately not Neiman Marcus. 70.173.122.123 (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Jones similar to Neiman Marcus? 

message: I think the article could benefit by having a "History" section early on, rather than leading with the "Business longevity" section which essentially covers performance since the last 1990s.  At present there are bits relevant to history among the "stores" section, which could be consolidated into a chronology of how the company has developed.  There are also some significant gaps on, say, ownership (eg the Adelaide Steamship days in the 1980s). Murtoa (talk) 06:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested restructure 

message: hi, i removed the following text from the article today:
In recent times, a slowdown in the upscale department store market has hurt both David Jones and its chief competitor, Myer (formerly part of the Coles Myer group, now renamed the Coles Group). The separation and public float of the department store assets in 1995 resulted in structural and cultural changes which saw periods of stagnancy and high staff turnover. Shares initially offered at A$2 fell as low as A$0.90, but have since reached highs of over A$4.50 (prior to the 2008 "Global Financial Crisis").
It has weathered and grown strong from the massive shift in Australian retailing away from department stores towards specialist retailers and suburban shopping malls. Myer — Australia's largest department store — has also demonstrated its ability to change with the times, especially since its sale  from former parent company (Coles Myer) to a partnerhsip between private equity group TPG Newbridge, and the Myer family. Since the sale, Myer has experienced a dramatic turnaround and is now more profitable than at any other point in its history.
it was in a section called "Business longevity", whatever that means, and it is all about Myer - not about DJs at all! So it's here now in case some one feels it's desperately important to have detailed info about another company's history on this page. Cheers, --Amaher (talk) 12:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  history 

message: I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about the stores and closed stores sections in comparisions to WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I feel this section does nothing to add to the matieralness of the article and feel the infomation may better be expressed just as well as prose.
I also would like to refer to AfD, which I originally nominated as Punk Boi 8 a bit over 3 years ago.
I personally think the list fails NOTDIR criteria 4, as the list is nothing more than a list of store locations with no referncing to opening dates. Furthermore, many of the individual stores may not be notable beyond their opening, and may not recieve ongoing WP:RS coverage beyond their opening - save for the flagship stores, which may be worth keeping as prose, but certainly not every store.
Thanks -- sandgemADDICT yeah? 19:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the store list and will place them here in a subpage of this talk page. This was a WP:BB decision as I started the above discussion a month ago and have recieved no reply. I will paste the remvoed content into a subpage and draw attention via WP:AUS to the discussion. -- sandgemADDICT yeah? 05:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

text: I have again removed the list which has been re-added sometime between now and 2012.Ajf773 (talk) 21:04, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stores section 

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message: Much as I am a fan of DJs... I'm not sure if this is correct, as the oldest department store is "Le Bon Marché" which was started in 1856, and is still going, in the same building. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest dept store still trading under its own name