Talk:Lady Jessica

message: Per their comments above, DuneEnjoyer333 is proposing that the infobox image for this article be changed from the Francesca Annis 1984 version to Rebecca Ferguson from the current Villeneuve films. Their suggestions are as follows:
* Option 1: Dune 2 - Tattooed Jessica 1, from the Dune wiki
* Option 2: Dune 2 - Tattooed Jessica 2 from Entertainment Weekly
* Option 3: Dune 1 - Jessica with blue scarf from the Italian Wikipedia
* Option 3 v2: Dune 1 - Jessica with blue scarf v2 from Den of Geek
DuneEnjoyer333, I don't want to improperly paraphrase your comments above, so please feel free to "vote" and comment here. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 17:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for helping me with this btw@TAnthony you're awesome man DuneEnjoyer333 (talk) 17:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately WP:NFCC requires that we use as few non-free images as possible, which in this case would be one in the infobox. Your toggle idea would be a violation. Erik's idea creates the loophole of being able to use a second image because the reliably sourced commentary in the article discusses the tattoo look.— TAnthonyTalk 03:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case I would vote for Version 3 V2 as the main image, but I just don't think the 80's version is the best representation of the character. I get putting it in the body is an alternative (and maybe we could do that as well) but I just think the main image could be done better. I understand how important the first actress was and have respect for her (and her performance!), but I'm just thinking best modern representation here. DuneEnjoyer333 (talk) 03:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like calling it a loophole.  I genuinely believe the first full appearance is proper. The tattooed look, if anything, is a disguise that the character takes on to manipulate the Fremen to favor Paul. This has the director commenting on the tattooed look, "She’s trying to play on the symbolism that was put in the prophecy. She’s supposed to be the mother of the Messiah, so I wanted to bring the idea that she was like the pope of the reverend mothers on Arrakis. There’s some kind of madness in writing elements of the prophecies on her face. Frankly, I think when you drink the worm poison, it affects your sanity — and the same with Paul. I like the idea that we feel she's going too far." With that being the case, tattooed Jessica in the infobox does not seem that representative. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: what do you think of option 3 V2? @Erik DuneEnjoyer333 (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it works well. I'd support that. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify, you prefer replacing the current 1984 image with one form the new film?— TAnthonyTalk 17:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think the infobox should have Ferguson-as-Jessica regardless. I prefer Option 3 V2 so far. If Annis-as-Jessica has any critical commentary, it could exist in the article body. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed infobox image change