Talk:Princess Leia/Archive 1

message: Somebody really needs to bring her biography up to the level of Anakin, Luke, and Han. --LtNOWIS 22:00, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken a step towards it.  It could use some more detail, but at least now it does not omit practically the whole of the Expanded Universe. --Maru  (talk) Contribs 01:14, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update biography TODO 

message: If you want to add new titles for Leia, (ie Princess, First Chairman, Grand Poobah etc) PLEASE don't just replaced the one that's there. It's there for a reason- to link her with preceeding Senators of Alderaan. If you replace the text, it stuffs it up. If you want to add more titles, add more boxes. --QuentinGeorge 06:10, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titles 

message: Somebody REALLY needs to find a more appropriate image... --Frenchman113 21:05, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
:Really, how can we have an article on her without a shot of her in the metal bikini? :D --Golbez 06:55, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
::We did, but Frenchman113 complained. --Kross 09:00, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
:::Sorry for pissing you guys off, I really didn't care that much. I was just thinking that some christian fundamentalist would change it anyway. --Frenchman113 21:43, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
::::We don't really have any information on Leia's role in RotJ either... Perhaps a new section on that, including the metal bikini?
:::::What do you mean, "some Christian fundamentalist would change it anyway"? Am I the ONLY one who would really care about that kind of stuff? Are you ALL just a bunch of Christian-hating editors? I agree that, since the metal bikini seems to be very popular, it would be difficult to have an article without an image of her in the bikini, but let's not get into a Christian-bashing discussion here! --Scorpionman 03:47, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Biblically there is nothing against Leia's slave costume. All her "private parts" are covered and that is all the Bible explicitly says is needed for "modesty". Saying "some Christian fundamentalists" would object is wrong because that is not a "Christian" view at all, merely a personal view created from personal opinion, what is acceptable in society at the time and how they grew up. Yes may Christians do tend to be “old fashion” as many would say nowadays, but from a strictly Christian point of view she's fine. Any LESS clothing and yes then you might have a problem but I'm pretty sure Wikipedia prohibits those kinds of images. --The Matrix Prime 03:21, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia does not prohibit such images, but that's beside the point because there aren't any such images of Leia.   =)  Powers 17:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you ask me it needs to be an actual shot from the movie. That picture of her in the bikini in the ROTJ section doesn't have the collar or chain. So it's probaly just a pose she did. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Animasage (talk • contribs) 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need better image 

message: I'm just curious whether or not Leia constructed her own lightsaber during the Expanded Universe of Star Wars.  I know Luke managed to construct a lightsaber that all his own, but did Leia construct a lightsaber that's all her own?
:I believe she did. --Maru  (talk) Contribs 01:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leia's Lightsaber 

message: I question whether the Quotations section is really all that necessary. I think it could be deleted entirely, but if not, I think it should be edited so only relevant, important quotes are retained (it seems like a lot aren't necessary). It also needs to be formatted better. – Mipadi 01:56, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotations 

message: I know this is rather trivial, but shouldn't there be at least some mention of the Episode IV hairstyle? --AnonMoos 18:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe something mentioned at the beginning of the ROTJ section about her changed her.--Animasage 21:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Young marriageable Hopi Indian women wear a very elaborate "Squash Blossom" hairdo that superficially resembles Princess Leia's.  It takes a hairdresser about an hour to make.  Some references for this are , , and . Josh-Levin@ieee.org 21:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hairstyle 

message: So, who's her daddy?  What do you think? E Pluribus Anthony 19:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Talk:Darth_Vader#RfC.2Fpoll:_Darth_Vader.2FAnakin_Skywalker_.E2.80.93_one_article_or_two_articles.3F|'''RfC/poll''' – Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker: one article or two?]]

message: There was a Comcast key hidden in the Killik Twilight?  Not only were the rebels trying to overthrow the Empire; they were pirating cable, too?  Is that right?  --EngineerScotty 20:42, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd think that the Rebels would've learned of the dangers of pirating cable from Sealab 2021. – Mipadi 21:51, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comcast key?

message: If we are going to rename this, shouldn't it be Leia Organa Solo? The Wookieepedian 16:35, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I've often wondered how far Jabba the Hut took his molesting of Princess Leia in Return of the Jedi. When Leia killed Jabba on the floating barge. There seemed to be a lot of hostility in the act and her eyes were very angry. Was all of this rage from a couple of sloppy kisses that the film showed? Or was there more? Did he possible sexually assault her? What do you think?
:The thought alone disgusts me. However, the first question that comes to my mind when considering this is "How would Hutts have sex, anyway?" The Wookieepedian 07:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are good questions. But gross. Considering how the reason the green dancer was killed was because she refused to have sexual actions with him that is a possibility. This brings another question though, How did they get Leia to change? Forcing her to do it or forcing it on her?--Animasage 21:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  With her bare hands 

message: I just cut an entire section from the article. It was labeled "Talents and appearances", but nothing in it had anything to do with either, and was written very, very poorly. I also removed a bullet from the trivia for the same reason. Feel free to re-add them after rewriting them; I would have done it myself, but I'm short on time. EVula 19:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut content 

message: Why is it that Princess Leia doesn't look like Padme? She's supposed to be her daughter. She also doesn't bear any resemblance to Anakin. I mean, of course, it's just a question of casting, but why did they have to pick Natalie Portman for Padme's role? They should have chose someone who resembled Leia more. Padme just looks far more beautiful than Leia. Yeah, and Luke also didn't have the looks of his father. 
You people! It's a just a goddamned flipping movie! Who cares if the actors don't resemble each other, they aren't really relatives and the charecters don't really exist! Sure, George Lucas made an incosistency because the old movies are the last three, wha else is new! GET OVER IT! 
 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.5.121.190 (talk • contribs) .
: I think you're a bit too picky.  Acting ability and a basic resemblence are far more important than close resemblences.  Powers T 01:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doesn't Look Like Her Mom 

message: As Princess Leia escaped from the Death Star and the Imperials' death sentence on her, does that make her a Fictional escapee? Siyavash 18:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Escapee? 

message: There really should be some verification of how Leia remembered Padme, considering how far-fetched a notion it is. I'm not accusing anyone who wrote this of fanwankery, as they were just stating the information that has been given, but the idea that Leia would say "She died when I was very young" instead of "She died giving birth to me" when she was five seconds old is just a bit silly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A gx7 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memory of Padme 

message: Can someone back up the assertion that she is named for Steven Spielberg's mother? This is the first place I've heard it.
: I'm the guy that originally posted this.  I had heard in the media (I forget where or when) that George Lucas was at a party or social function, and so was his friend Steve Spielberg.  He overheard Steve's mother being referred to as "LEH-uh", and thought it would be a good name his "Princess".
: Sometime after this, I was at a family reunion at a resort in the Catskills, and a waitress pointed out that my brother greatly resembled Mr. Spielberg, and this launched a series of reminisces.  It turns out that my mother, and Spielberg's mother, were girlhood friends a long long time ago, but not in  a galaxy far far away, but rather in Cincinnati, Ohio.  Actually, Leah Posner Spielberg Adler is about 4½ years older than my mother, and was a bit closer to one of my aunts.  Those present at the family reunion indicated that it was a well-known fact that Princess Leia was named after Leah.
: Wait, there's more.  Leah was once engaged to marry my mother's first cousin, the late Rabbi Charles E. Israel.  The engagement was broken off, she married Arnold Spielberg, and the rest is history.
: Leah is currently the proprietress of a Kosher dairy bar in the Hollywood area.  I would provide the name of her establishment, but then she might be inundated with phone calls.  My mother, my brother, and his wife and kids visited there once.  Leah came up to my brother, gave him a good lookover, and then commented "You look like Steve." Josh-Levin@ieee.org 21:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spielberg?

message: I don't have the time right now to remove the absolute shit that is the second paragraph of Return of the Jedi. Anyone else want to have a crack at writing a decent summary of her time in the movie? As much as I love that costume, the movie isn't entirely about that bikini... EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only thing that would really be considered what you claim it to be is the ideas of stripping raping by Jabba's guards.  There really isn't a point to add that, nor is there proof of any of Jabba's guards taking advantage of her.  The only one you can make a case for is Jabba.  I think perhaps just adding the note that there is a theory that she might have been a sex slave, just as some other user has put up, is enough on that note.  I also can't stand the graphic details that some real horny toad is putting in.  Why don't they just write a fanfic?  lol.  And for cryin' out loud, she escaped Jabba!  Luke and Lando didn't die and she wasn't forced to remain Jabba's slave forever.  That should be obviously some horny fanboy's fantasy.  I think what is there now is fine though.
I have commented out the utter crap in the article until someone fixes or deletes it.--74.134.146.52 07:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fanfic 

message: Okay. With all the stuff people are saying about leia's sexual harassment, why does no one put it on the page? Seriously, the facts need to get out! - leialover —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackson Smith (talk • contribs) 01:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leia's Nightmare 

message: Could someone have an idea of Leia political leaning and affiliation? Right or Left, Republican or Democrat... I know that those are not in the Star Wars Universe but just to have an idea.207.134.243.138 18:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leia Political Affiliation 

message: I gave the section a copy-edit, and took out most of what appeared to be original research or fanfiction like emotions, but it still needs work.  It is overly long and seems to go over every little bit of the plot. Just thought I'd bring that up on here. Darthgriz98 02:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bikini section

message: Someone let in a cat? There is a "meow" in the text. cb
:I removed it and warned the IP that put that in there. DarthGriz98 02:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: meow

message: I don't think that's a bad idea at all!  It would certainly be appropriate—since Wookiepedia's page on Leia already has that title as a section—and would give the article a relieving boost. — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks :)  In addition to helping the theme article (which has no apparent notability on its own), I think it would be a nice boost to this article as well. AnmaFinotera (talk) 02:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, I've noticed, by skimming the Theme article's history, that you've had to deal with an IP vandal who kept on trying to add the Leiabikini image.  I and several others have had to deal with that same IP vandal over the past few days, and I thought you'd might like to know that he's been temporarily blocked. Kudos to you for handling the situation so well. ;) — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with ''[[Princess Leia's Theme]]'' 

message: How did she remember her mother? Amidala died moments after Luke & Leia's birth. I know both her and Luke have the Force, but Luke (who's more trained in the Force) couldn't remember their mother. Perhaps Leia was thinking of her step-mother (Mrs. Organa). This should be added to the article (not sure how). GoodDay 20:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only way for that to be added to the article would be to find a source, probably George Lucas himself, saying that it was Organa's wife that Leia remembered.  Luke did ask her "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?", so I think it's safe to assume that some how she remembered Amidala through some plot hole or something answered in the books perhaps.  DarthGriz98 01:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm guessing plot hole. I mean, the Force. A gx7 09:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Check out this link http://blogs.starwars.com/ghent/26  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.154.34 (talk) 03:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Already has been. See here. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 03:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

text: It is true that Leia does remember that her mother was sad at the time of her birth.  However, in RotJ, Leia does, to the best of my knowledge, also comment that her mother was beautiful, which would imply that she saw and, more importantly, remembered her mother.  I believe I read somewhere that Lucas was, at the time of RotJ, going to keep Padmé alive, but later changed his mind.  This would make it a plot hole, but unless someone can properly reference that, it can't be added.  Grey Maiden talk 20:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Leia's memory of her birth mother??

message: As a non native speaker I don't understand what is meant by that. Can someone help me, and, would it be relevant to add that information directly into the article? thanks.
:It's a slang term - for a definition see the second meaning in the Urban Dictionary entry for all the way to China. Hope this helps.
:I don't think the meaning can be paraphrased in the article without the explanation being longer than the quote and placing undue weight on a sentence that adds interesting colour but is not otherwise essential to a reader's understanding of the section. Euryalus (talk) 05:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  to see straight to Florida 

message: according to this force unleashed page she plays a major role in the multimedia project
i feel this should be added  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.5.162 (talk) 17:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  involvment in force unleashed 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:HeirToTheEmpire.jpg

message: Have anyone thought, "slave Leia" wasn't in Luke's masterplan of saving Han Solo? It happened because Leia failed to escape with Han. She was caught with Han & without wearing her mask, so Jabba knew, the bounty hunter was a female human. 
So, what was Luke's real plan? After his friends came one by one to Jabba's palace, then he came alone. Was he trying to beat Jabba & his allies in the palace, not on the sail barge, like in the movie? I just wanna know..
Ario_ManUtd 12:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently so, given the fact that Luke tried to make some bargains and then, when Jabba refused, Luke pulled a pistol on him.  It seems more likely that Luke was planning on defeating Jabba and his goons in the Palace, but the enslavement of Leia, and capture of Han and Chewbacca, and battle with the Rancor, basically forced him to change his plans.  --- Cinemaniac 04:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright guys, while this is an interesting topic, Wikipedia is not a forum.  Let's move the discussion somewhere else, yes?  Arwen Undomiel talk 01:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Go to the unofficial Slave Leia MySpace page () and we'll spare Wikipedia of our discussions of everything about what REALLY went on between the scenes in Jabba's palace...:::  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.176.109 (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion in question wasn't concerning what happened to Leia behind-the-scenes at Jabba's Palace—which I do not wanna delve into—but rather if the "slave Leia" concept was actually in Luke's plan—which it clearly wasn't.  But I see your point: Wikipedia is not a forum. — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it's not a forum.  That's why there was the suggestion to go to to e Slave Leia page on MySpace, which is a much more adequate place for the discussion of what happened between the first embrace and loathsome kiss and the resulting enslavement.  11:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Slave Leia wouldn't happen if..

message: I am again removing :Image:LeiaStranglesJabba.jpg per WP:NFCC #8 ("Significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding."). This image does not substantially add to readers' understanding of the subject, and removing it does not obfuscate our understanding of a very straightforward plot point. All the article says about this scene is "Leia seizes the moment to kill Jabba by strangling him with the very chain that bound her." This is pretty clear cut; the image (like many in this article, frankly) is superfluous. --EEMIV (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image removal 

message: her name is leia organa solo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.118.200.168 (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Later on in the Star Wars universe, yes, it is. But in the three films she's a major character in, which is how most people know her, it isn't. Leia Organa Solo redirects here anyway. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  her name 

message: Why is this such a huge image? Wikipedia isn't for titillation. This article should be a mature analysis, not an objectification, of the character.
:That seems to be an overall problem with the article. DarthGriz98 00:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I agree that Wikipedia isn't for the "wow factor" when it comes to the costume, it is a pretty significant costume, and really does deserve at least some mention (and visual identification). I wholeheartedly agree that it was far too large, though; 150px seems just fine to illustrate the image, but not sensationalizing it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I downsized it to 150px, it shouldn't exactly be the focus of the article, even though it is important.  I've been working on copyediting that section too, it's a lot longer then the other summaries. DarthGriz98 01:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: See this discussion for others' responses to this. I agree, it'd be better if we had an image of Leia with her "bunhair", but I'm not all that great at uploading images. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bikini image 

message: Why is this listed as one of her titles? There is no source, either in the films or the EU, that lists her as that- and since "Queen" is an elected title on Naboo, there's no reason to assume that the daughter of a Queen would be considered a "Princess." That's without even getting into the fact that Leia was adopted and has never had any relevent connection with the planet. Removed unless someone finds a source that refers to her as such. ChrisStansfield Contribs 14:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princess of Naboo? 

message: Why does Princess_leia_film.jpg appear twice in this article? Once as the article's main image, and then again here.   92.17.29.123 (talk) 03:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same Picture Twice? 

message: I'm not sure what makes it C; it's definitely a long article, but when I think of C-class, I think of something that is, while rough around the edges, more or less done. It has had a references cleanup tag for three and a half years that has clearly not been addressed; counting the unusable references, we have two IMDB links, a dead link to "xspaces", two Wikias, one fan site image, one YouTube video, one forum link, two links that have no mention whatsoever of Star Wars or Leia, a dead link to "Axel Jacob", a dead link to the Star Wars official web site, a dead link to an MTV interview (that, from the tone, does not sound like it is usable for what it is referencing), and 12 references that come from the films or people with a vested interest in the films. As it is, there are only three reliable sources that are actually accessible. Two other clean up tags, each dated about two and a half years ago, assert that their respective sections lack references, while one of the main cleanup tags assert that the content is written in an in-universe fashion. Can an article that will probably need to be rewritten for GA really be called anything more than Start? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 03:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality 

message: I thought Leia's first kiss was Luke, or was that in Return of the Jedi? To be honest I think that the way the 'first kiss' passage is phrased is a perfect example of the overarching problem with this article - that it's far too casual. The article gives a complete summary of the films from Leia's perspective. I'm not sure that chronicling every one of Leia's appearances is the best way to describe her character. If it is, then they should be far more succinct and far less informal. Davidovic 05:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right; Leia's first kiss (on film, at the least) was with Luke, depicted in The Empire Strikes Back.  The most obvious reason for this is because of the natural attraction that Leia had to both Han and Luke (and vice versa), and the tension resulting among them because of this.  If I remember correctly, she kissed Luke because an argument broke out between her and Han, and it was possibly done to make Han jealous. Han and Leia wouldn't kiss each other until later in the film. Remember, it wasn't until Return of the Jedi that Leia was revealed as being Luke's sister.  I'll try to edit this 'first kiss' passage to make it more succinct.  Thanks for the comment. — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 00:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I find this article cool. I sure am happy my real mother concerns have been added. GoodDay (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Kiss & Other Things 

message: I think its only natural based on all the discussion above, that we make the image of her in a bikini the main photo of the article, afterall its what the fans want :) (otherwise make the photo bigger)69.157.63.75 (talk) 01:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold

message: There has to be some reason why she spoke in a terrible British accent in her first few scenes!    I've yet to read a conclusive factual reason (from Georgie Lucas).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.67.104.4 (talk) 14:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad British Accent 

message: This article in the Huffington Post gives more info on the golden bikini. I'm not really into the subject(I just came across this article looking for something else), but it could be used by someone here to reference more content.
Some points hit on that aren't mentioned in the article and could help show it's significance:
*Leia's bikini has become an indelible part of pop culture and it's been featured on such diverse TV shows as Family Guy, Dancing with the Stars and Deal or No Deal. There's an episode of Friends in which David Scwhimmer's character, Ross, confesses that he has an erotic fantasy which involves the garment. Much to Ross's (and the audience's) delight, Jennifer Aniston winds up wearing the outfit to seduce him. 
*The Star Wars community largely rejects the notion that Jabba sexually assaulted Leia.
*For many fans, Leia is an exemplary personification of female empowerment. She's a smart, feisty, brave diplomat and warrior. And for these admirers it is disturbing to see her formidable stature diminished by the endlessly evoked image of her as a sexual object. As Audrey Brown writes on her website Born For Geekdom: "I just resent the fact that out of all of Leia's actions from the entire Star Wars trilogy, this is the moment that has been removed and sanctified." 
*With that in mind, it's potentially disturbing that the image has been so highly marketed and merchandised. The toy company Hasbro manufactured Slave Leia action figures for children to play with. When first released in 1997, they immediately became a sought after collector's item.
*Amanda Kloerne, who writes about human trafficking, considered the implications of the cult of Slave Leia and concluded in her blog: "It seems to be that most people can make a clear distinction; women being forced into prostitution as slaves is not sexy: Princess Leia as a slave in a gold bikini is."
*Earlier this year, the costume group The 501st and G4's Attack of the Show  raised money for the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Their money raising method for the esteemed charity? A car wash populated and operated by beautiful woman dressed up in, you guessed it, Leia's metal bikini.
Happy editingWikiposter0123 (talk) 19:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info on bikini 

message: I don't see why you all are reverting this image change.  That shot of her in that metal bikini HAS GOT TO BE the BEST image of her on the Web! In case y'all haven't noticed, she is REALLY hot in that bikini! 76.213.150.5 (talk) 02:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently you didn't realize that the bikini image was already being used—appropriately, mind you—in the metal bikini section of the article!  Having the same picture appear twice in the same article is confusing and unnecessary. — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 03:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I still don't see what the problem is. Practically everybody recognizes Leia in her metal bikini! The image is used on several other websites, and so is arguably the most famous photo of Leia. (Plus, she is smokin' hot in that skimpy bikini!) 70.245.24.112 (talk) 01:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In case you didn't know, here's what User:Euryalus had to say at your talk page: "There is no consensus on the talk page for the insertion of original research of this kind. Feel free to start a discussion on it if you like but stop just re-adding it to the article. Wikipedia articles like this need to be based on the official canon of works, not fanfic inserts." Amen to that, brother! — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The image used in this type of article is generally a simple headshot or full-body portrait of the character in their generic attire. Check out portraits used in Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. Some would say that Luke looks "smokin hot" in his Dagobah training outfit, but that's their POV only. I don't see the appeal of Leia in her metal bikini, and if I came to this article for information I'd much rather see an infobox picture that tells me something about the character herself. The current photo suggests that she is mature and takes her self seriously which is a far better description of her character than the metal bikini photo gives. Davidovic 10:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is Leia attractive? Sure. Does she look good in the costume? Of course. Fisher was twenty-six at the time, so it benefited her to let her hair down and show off her figure, as I'm sure the modest, butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth attitude of her character would eventually get tired. But is that metal bikini the real point of the sequence? Well, maybe. . . if you're Jabba the Hutt. . . IMO, though, the real shocker is that Leia was the one who managed to kill Jabba, not Luke or Chewie. She also improvised it skillfully, what with the chain and all (it brings to mind something from a 1970's gangster movie, although I can't remember which). That was the real shocker to me, when I first saw it, but most fanboys merely remember the bikini and nothing else, including what Jabba did to the princess while she was wearing it. — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bikini

message: As I remember it, the headphone hairstyle appeared in Episode V, not Episode IV as stated.  In Episode IV, she wore Austrian style Heidi plats. ixo (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Hairstyle

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thread_title: File:Princess leia film.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: Is there any way that we could change the article's name to "Leia Organa Solo"?  This would be a good idea, since Wookieepedia's article on her has the same name as I suggested. She currently (as far as continuity goes) goes by names such as Leia Solo, and even "Jedi Solo". I'm not saying we need to change her name to those names, I'm just suggesting a simple, Leia Organa Solo. Without the "princess" title.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 05:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I might be making this up, but I seem to remember something about titles not appearing in article names (ie. George W. Bush is not President George W. Bush or Henry VIII of England, not King Henry VIII of England). I'm resistant to changing the article to Leia Organa Solo, but that's just because I'm biased towards the film canon and dislike the books >_> Leia Organa Solo is probably the correct name for this article, as much as I dislike the 'solo' bit :P Davidovic 10:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Common name is the general rule and her common name is Princess Leia, Leia, or maybe Princess Leia Organa - making her last name Solo seems WP:Fancrufty to me.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 15:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I pretty much second Doug.'s comments. IMHO, I also think that "Leia Organa Solo" would be a dead giveaway to users not too familiar with these characters—however unbelievable that may seem—that she eventually married Han Solo. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 16:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that the character name in Force Awakens is Leia Solohttps://www.pathe.nl/persoon/8692/carrie-fisher, it's probably time to make that change to the name. WarrenA (talk) 08:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: None of us have seen the movie credits yet, and I don't know how you think the random website you're citing is proof of anything LOL. But even so, her common name is Princess Leia, and I don't think whatever they may call her in the new film could undo that. Editors supporting a change to Leia Solo or whatever may be using the novels or extended universe as a frame of reference, but a person/character's common name is how they are best known in the real world at large, and it seems pretty clear to me that 99% of mentions of the character in mainstream media call her Princess Leia.— TAnthonyTalk 14:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Change 

message: The Summer 1983 issue of Rolling Stone magazine poked fun at this appearance.Checklist: 10 Strange Star Wars Magazine Covers - StarWars.com     (talk) 14:49, 5 may 2015 (UTC)
:This has been taken care of in the article.— TAnthonyTalk 15:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Link

message: I think Carrie Fisher needs to be in the lede or at least intro (before table of contents). She is so iconically associated with the role. When people picture Princess Leia, they don't envision the baby in Episode III or fan fiction drawings. I added it once and it was undone. I would like to say that Leia was portrayed by Carrie Fisher in four of the seven films spanning three decades. —МандичкаYO 😜 15:57, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, she's named in the very first sentence.— TAnthonyTalk 16:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow I'm stupid. LOL my eyes went to the second sentence. Sorry! —МандичкаYO 😜 16:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha, no prob. ;) — TAnthonyTalk 16:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carrie Fisher should be mentioned in intro 

message: According to the Sunday, December 6, 2015 LA Times article, "'Star Wars': The Women Blasting Bounderies", the 2015 film reintroduces Leia as a general "very much in command" who is no longer a princess. Should the article be renamed and updated to reflect that she was a princess, past-tense? --Samantha Ireland (talk) 05:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't agree more. The page should be called "Leia Organa", as that applies to all the films she appears in, including Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 12:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

text: The most common name is "Princess Leia", so the name of the article should remanin the same. RJ4 (talk) 12:38, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The stats collected for the Requested move above establish that the common name is Princess Leia.— TAnthonyTalk 15:21, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

text: I'm updating the search for the sake of this discussion: a Google news archive search gives 455,000 results for "Princess Leia", compared to 5320 for "Leia Organa and only 823 for "Princess Leia Organa". Same with Google books: 22,300 results for "Princess Leia", compared to 6000 for "Leia Organa" and 2760 for "Princess Leia Organa".— TAnthonyTalk 18:16, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really care either way, but presumably the OP was suggesting removing the "Princess" part, because she isn't a princess in every instalment, apparently. So the article would be renamed to "Leia Organa" or even just "Leia" or something, not "Princess Leia Organa". Popcornduff (talk) 18:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I forgot to add "Leia Organa" which I just did ... but regardless of her current title or whatever in the latest film, the article should be named per the common name for the character in the real world, which is simply Princess Leia. — TAnthonyTalk 18:50, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, cool. 04:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leia Organa  

message: How many chidren do Leaia and Han have? There appears to be a discrepancy here.  Is Han Solo killed by his son, who has gone to the dark side, or what?  I will explain tomorrow, bur I really would like to know who the Organa-Solo children are.   Robert McClenon (talk) 05:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The new film establishes that they have one son, Ben (Kylo Ren), who has gone to the dark side and kills Han. In the novels from the 1990s and 2000s, which are now non-canon, they have three children ... one of whom also turns evil, but his name is Jacen Solo.— TAnthonyTalk 05:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So the real problem appears to be that there is a split in the canon between the Expanded Universe and the new movie.  I think that the articles should be updated to reflect the discrepancy, although now the movie is canon and the novels are non-canon to the extent that they differ.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As I just noted at Talk:Kylo Ren, the infobox and lead of this article specify the alternate continuities, and Kylo/Ben is noted in the Force Awakens section. It couldn't be clearer. This article is structured from a real-world perspective where all works are presented.— TAnthonyTalk 17:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Many Children? 

message: I disagree with listing Ingvild Deila in the infobox for portraying the character in Rogue One. It was a brief cameo and Carrie Fisher's face and voice was used. Deila was no more than a stand in or stunt actor. This seems to be a case of WP:UNDUE. If nobody objects, I'm going to remove her. JDDJS (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I object. She was listed in the closing credits. Therefore she's on record as having played the character, and should be listed as such. oknazevad (talk) 16:19, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was going to say, I removed her previously on the same grounds, and was reverted on the basis that Deila was credited in the film. The procedure in articles for soap opera characters (who often have many portrayers) has historically been to list  actors who played the roles in a significant way in the infobox, but any babies or non-speaking children, or temporary fill-ins during illness or flashbacks, be listed in the prose section of the article about Portrayal. In the case of soap operas, I think this was a means to minimize clutter in the already-sprawling infoboxes. I agree that putting Deila in the infobox makes more of her contribution than is probably necessary, but the baby from Revenge of the Sith is in there too LOL.— TAnthonyTalk 16:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ingvild Deila  

message: Kathleen Kennedy apparently said that Carrie Fisher would not appear in Episode 9. Well, this article isn't on Carrie Fisher, it's on Princess Leia. Unless she states the role will not be recast, there shouldn't be anything indicating that Princess Leia won't appear in episode 9, just that Carrie Fisher won't.  -A lad insane (Channel 2) 21:43, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a very good point! Fixing that now.— TAnthonyTalk 22:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  :) -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:56, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode 9

message: It's clearly crazy to have such a lengthy article for a FICTIONAL character when we can't keep a page up on REAL people who do prominent things. There is an incredible amount of disproportionate significance given to FICTIONAL CHARACTERS on Wikipedia. I would encourage active editors to work on editing down (deleting) such unnecessary information. Tleeditor (talk) 17:10, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too long 

message: The last paragraph of "Creation and casting" has nothing to do with the creation or casting of the character. It definitely belongs in the article, but I'm torn between (a) moving it out to its own section (which could be expanded with thorough analysis of its use in the films, assuming sources for such exist) and (b) creating a subsection at the end of "Creation and casting" called, say, "Music" and renaming the main section to something generix like "Concept". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of place music discussion 

message: Can someone please update the template picture with a Force Awakens/Last Jedi one, since that is the most recent official image of her? --104.174.104.148 (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As in all articles of this type, the image should be one by which the character is best known, not necessarily the most recent.— TAnthonyTalk 04:09, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update lead photo 

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