Talk:Battle of Baidoa

message: Relation to Somali Civil War (2006-present) as well as Ethiopian involvement in the Somali Civil War should be clearly established and information apportioned appropriately. I was glad to see that much of what I had written in the former article was lifted directly onto this page. However, I did not keep the events of December 20-21 in synch between the two articles. I've been focusing mostly on the Somali Civil War page.
I've also put a pointer from "Ethiopian Involvement" to the Somali Civil War page, rather than to here directly, hoping that people will read the central article first before coming to this subnode of the information cluster.
Since many of my day-to-day entries for the war are getting rather long and extensive, I'd be fine if, after perhaps a few days, the more detailed information currently on the main war page might move to this battle-related page.
Before we do such a radical redo of the pages, what do others think?
--Petercorless 19:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: answered on your talk page. Let's concentrate on the specific event, rather than context. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

text: A pick-up truck with a machine gun mounted on the back. Battle Ape 08:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Relation to [[Somali Civil War (2006-present)]]

message: Is anyone aware that the acronym "TFG" is not specified?  (As in, what it means is not told to the reader)
:I have taken to add the TFG acronym at the top of the page. I would also suggest that we use "TFG" (Transitional Federal Government) rather than "TFP" (Transitional Federal Parliament) as this seems to be the common name being used in all news reports and even the TFG's own press releases. q.v. Somalia: Goverment press release - war situation --Petercorless 04:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the name "Transitional Federal Parliament" to "Transitional Federal Government" in the caption box. The TFG acronym should be placed on  the other article pages relating to this conflict as well, since it is heavily confusing for a reader without any prior knowledge to understand which sides are in conflict. Also, there seems to be a lot of overlapping in the articles such as the Somali Civil War, Battle of Baidoa and the Ethiopian Intervention in the Somali Conflict - is there someway we can make certain demarcations to resolve this? Because at this rate, we'll have to synchronise much of what we've written in one article with the information in another. Right now I see a discrepency in casualty numbers between two articles, which requires updating. - Permafrost 07:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. As you can see by my note at the top, we need to consider how to parse the news across the different pages. It had been that purely Somali-involved events were on the Somali Civil War (2006-present) page, and those that involved the Ethiopians on the Ethiopian involvement in the Somali Civil War‎ page. Now we also have a "Battle of Baidoa" with events involving all parties to the conflict. I'd suggest only putting "major" events on the main Ethiopian and Somali Civil War page, at least, until matters around Baidoa resolve into a new equilibrium. The Ethiopian page is best for events in the Second Front in Mudug --Petercorless 07:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So far I've identified these articles that have overlapped in information or need updating to synch with the others. The Somali Civil War (2006-present) article, the Baidoa article, the Battle of Baidoa article, the Ethiopian involvement in the Somali Civil War article and the Military of Somalia article. Permafrost 10:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TFG

message: Just finished the map for the battle to date. Please check it out and let me know if I have placed towns like Iidale and Buulo Jadid in the right area. I was unable to find them located on other maps I have access to, and have no Lat/Long coordinates, but placed them in the approximate location of where they have been reported. I also converted all fonts to outlines of the text, to avoid font rendering problems with SVG. --Petercorless 01:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: This is horrible... I can't believe there's gonna be another war over Christmas. Last year was bad enough. Brutannica 07:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since Somalis are 99% Muslim and most Ethiopian Christians are Orthodox (and therefore celebrate Christmas on January 7th), it's possible that there won't be fighting over Christmas for those involved (if tensions decrease in the next two weeks, though I'm not holding my breath). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 07:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: Based on reports of 500 Eritreans being committed to Bur Hakaba, and the capture and suicide of jihadists, I have put both on the list of combatants supporting the ICU. --Petercorless 08:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see this as a bad idea, mostly because the word "jihadist" has no encyclopedia value.  It seems that whenever an international group of muslim fighters acts in a way opposed by the US they are refered to as "jihadists", while when they act favorably they are called "Mujahideen."  Is there any more informative and neutral way to express that forign fighters, islamic in ideology, are fighting in somalia?--71.231.150.146 01:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: Guys, concentrate only on events in and around Baidoa. There's no place here for other fronts. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, the Battle of Baidoa is but one battle in the larger war. ~Rangeley (talk) 04:02, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Ethiopian drive through Beledweyne, which has now reached Buuloburde, would likely constitute an eastern flank of the Battle of Baidoa. It depends on how this affects the front in Tiyoglow and Bur Hakaba. I have also made mention of the air strike on Bali-Dogle, considering it is in the rear area of the ICU for this battle. --Petercorless 16:18, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
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