Talk:British brass band

message: Erm what sort of BB is this article meant to be about? Sounds like a British [style] BB but the trumpets are confusing. I think the article needs a good birthday. Nevilley 23:33, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Which sort of band?

message: some of this discussion moved from User talk:Finlay McWalter
Hi again. I must take you to task about this statement: "The majority of competition brass bands extant are colliery bands". This is not true and to the best of my knowledge (I have no figures to prove this - I'd bet a pint that you don't have any either!) has never been so. Let's consider 6 top bands alone:
*Black Dyke Mills (cotton mill)
*Grimethorpe Colliery (OK - I'll give you that one)
*Yorkshire Building Society (once Hammond Sauce Works - not a colliery)
*Fairey (once Fairey aviation)
*Fodens (the truck manufacturer).
*Brighouse & Rastrick (unsponsored town band)
Of these top bands only one is or has ever been a colliery band. Look at www.bandsman.co.uk/bb-links.htm. There is no evidcence
that the *majority* of *competition* bands are colliery bands.
All the best,
-Nigel (getting in to the swing of things now :-)
NigelHorne 13:03, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
: You're quite right (I think the association may be stronger in Scotland than elsewhere), and I confess I added it knowing folks would gasp with horror and fix it :)  I do think the article should cover more than just the bare details of the bands themselves - they're heavily integrated with the societies from which they spring (by contrast there's really no such thing as "string quartet culture").  So we should mention brass bands in Britain are largely a working-class phenomenon, are frequently (?) related to specific works (heh, I didn't know about the sauce works).  The list above would make for a fascinating addition - please feel free to integrate it and to tone down my colliery fixation as needed. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 16:53, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Colliers?

message: The "United States" section of this article is getting muddled.  In particular, the second paragraph is mixing up discussion of "British style" brass bands in the U.S. with more generic-style brass bands.  If it would help, I can take a shot at editing the second paragraph to clarify.  However, as a non-American, it might be better if someone in the U.S. did it. :)
Also, note that NABBA is mentioned in both the first and second paragraphs.  I suggest the reference in the second paragraph can be safely removed. --BCRCornet 21:20, 2004 October 18 (UTC)
: Yes, certainly, if you think you can improve the article, please do. As the title of the article is "Brass band" rather than something like "British style brass bands", I think it would be assumed that discussion is about brass bands in general except where some subset is specifically mentioned. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 21:37, 18 October 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: An anon editor removed it. As they have offered no explanation, I'll assume it was just a new user mistake, and I put it back. -- Infrogmation — Preceding undated comment added 20:57, 22 November 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "United States" Section 

message: The reference to Hannaford Street Silver Band is reasonable, as a professional exception to the "recreational, amateur, community bands" statement.  What purpose is served by naming the Mill Creek Colliary [sic] Band and Mission Hill Brass Band?  If we do that, are we going to list every British brass band in Canada? -- BCRCornet 13:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Canada" Section 

message: Ok, I might have been a bit too bold with that last edit, sorry - feel free to revert it.  The first thing I noticed about this article was that the instrumentation was put into the UK section and it seemed a bit messy.  I moved this to the top and added the specifics about band from different countries underneath.  I also added a sub-section of 'Competitions' to the UK section as to me, at least, it seemed to need a division in there. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes here, & as I said, feel free to revert. Dave 23:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Think this is related: I added the bit about a principal cornet and three solo cornets, all playing the same part and the principal taking solos, rather than just having four solo cornets listed. I also added the differentiation between the front and back row cornets. If anyone feels this is wrong do please change it back. Mickthefish 13:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Instrumentation

message: Considering the article is on the English version of Wiki, should this sentence not be in English? Dave 22:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I'm still not happy with the content though. It's not really an encyclopaedic entry about brass bands in Switzerland, just a link to one band in that country. Also, the statement "the most successful brass band in Switzerland" is uncited. I've added the "complete rewrite" cleanup tag, which I deemed the most appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adzz (talk • contribs) 07:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Switzerland Section

message: I've started a section on famous bands...feel free you add/edit your own! Put them in a good order too (e.g. the current rankings on http://www.4barsrest.com would be good! It might take a while to update each time though. 82.19.23.152 15:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just made an account That's the ticket 18:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous bands

message: (I noticed that "what is a brass ensemble" was being offered to be merged with this article)
as a brass player, I am rather strongly opinionated about brass divisions. I would consider a 'brass band' to be a british-style colliers' band. Things such as the Canadian Brass should be referred to by what they are (e.g. quintet, like them; octet; etc.). Once you get above 10-12 pieces, and still have only brass and necessary percussion, I believe it should be referred to as a Brass Ensemble or a large Brass Ensemble, because it does not fit the category of a colliers' band due to the concert repertoire. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.219.211.133 (talk) 01:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree wholeheartedly with this opinion. Mickthefish 11:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Types of Brass band

message: This paragraph seems to be rather inappropriate:
"The Australian Brass band movement strives to move forward and thus be competitive with their English counter parts, but are constantly undermined by people and companies trying to make an easy dollar out of the participants. Also, we need a new and improved form of magazine that, like the current one, is not biased."
Comments? --125.254.30.100 08:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Appropriateness of Australian paragraph

message: I'm not sure whether this should be raised on this page or in the WikiProject's pages (so I'll put it in both); but I don't think this article should be in this WikiProject.
A British-style brass band is not a "marching band", by the definition of that term in the Marching Band article. Brass bands do sometimes march ... but that doesn't make every (or indeed any) brass band a "marching band".
I mean no disrespect to marching bands or to the WikiProject - I just think this is an inappropriate categorisation, and likely to be confusing.
132.244.246.25 (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Marching band 

message: The recording of the Hunter's Chorus is played by a concert band, not a brass band. There are quite audible flutes and clarinets on the top line.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.33.75 (talk) 21:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording 

message: I would recommend this article for Featured status. It's excellent. 81.109.151.21 (talk) 04:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured?

message: To the best of my knowledge as a former member of the band, Stalybridge Old Band does not claim to be the first brass band, but the oldest surviving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.130.176.141 (talk) 21:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalybridge Old Band