Talk:Hamantash

message: For most of this article's existence, the main title was "Hamantash" or "Hamantasch."  Redaktor changed the title to "Homentash."  Thousands of websites refer to this cookie as "Hamantash" or "Hamantasch," while far fewer call it "Homentash."  I think it should be changed. Poldy Bloom 04:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homentash vs. Hamantash vs. Hamantasch 

message: I added cheese as a flavour of fillings for hamantaschen. It was deleted because the person had never heard of cheese as a filling for hamantaschen. I have been eating cheese hamantaschen, which my Mom buys from a bakery, every year for as long as I can remember. If you search for cheese hamantaschen on Yahoo or Google you will see a lot of recipes for it. It exists and my tastebuds are very gratfeul for that. Jami86e 06:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it back, since apparently "cheese hamantaschen" do exist. It seems rare, though, based on the number of Google hits it gets. I also added in a reference for it.--DLandTALK 12:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Jami86e 19:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cheese Hamantaschen

message: Before Redaktor changed "Hamantasch" to "Homentash" throughout the article, the origins of the name were attributed to "Haman's pocket."  Redaktor changed the article to read, "The name homentashn is a corruption of Yiddish: מאן־טאשן montashn, German: mohntaschen, meaning poppyseed cakes."  Does anyone have any evidence of this linguistic provenance?  Can someone provide a legitimate printed (i.e. non-internet) source?  If so, please add a footnote to the article.  
By the way, "mohn" does mean poppyseed in German, but "taschen" means "pockets," not "cakes."  (The German word for cake is "Kuchen.")  I am going to change the article to reflect the two possible origins of the name.  The montashn theory may be more correct from a scholarly point of view (and I don't know if it is), but the Haman's pocket theory is the most commonly believed. So, I think it is best to present them both. Poldy Bloom 04:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of name 

message: Some sources say the pastry resembles Haman's hat.  But the name means, literally, "Haman's pocket".  I can't find any "authoritative" source to cite, but it seems obvious to me that the shape of these pastries is also suggestive of Esther (or more precisely, part of Esther). Bgoldnyxnet (talk) 14:50, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  shape/meaning of "Hamentaschen" 

message: This urban myth keeps reappearing in all sorts of media, now even Wikipedia.
I don't think there's any serious evidence that poppy seeds in pastries contain enough narcotic substance to give the same effect as a single Codeine pill, not to mention make someone appear to be a Heroin addict in a lab test. Please provide source(s) if it's not a myth after all.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.134.137.71 (talk) 19:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The burden of proof is on the myth-monger. I removed the unsourced statement. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opiat drugs in Hamantaschen 

message: "The word tasch means "pouch" or "pocket" in Germanic languages...", Tasche means "pouch" or "pocket" in German. Please provide a source for the general statement about Germanic languages.91.39.112.37 (talk) 21:58, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source please 

message: This is not just in Hebrew.  I am translating the stenographic transcripts of the Beilis trial which are available in Russian online.  On day 7 one of the Christian factory workers is testifying and since he is illiterate, he tells dates only by their being before or after holidays, usually  Christian ones.  But he also goes around in circles with one of the prosecutors when he says that something he did fell at the time of "Haman's ears," obviously Hamentaschen time or Purim.  He can't even read Russian, let alone Hebrew, so he must get the phrase _hamen ukha_ (ukha is Russian for ears) from talking to the Jewish people working at the factory, including Beilis.  In fact one of the things he goes around in circles with is that the prosecutor asks him does he know anything about Mordechai and Esther and he says no.  Being illiterate he has never read the Bible.  All he knows is that the Jewish people at the factory have a yummy thing that they share with him after Christmas and it's called hamen ukha.  If you read Russian, go to the Wikipedia article for the Beilis trial, click the external link for the stenographic record, go to volume 1.2, page 98 in Dja Vu and page 238 as the transcript numbers it.
71.163.114.49 (talk) 13:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haman's ears 

message: I've always been curious about the origins of the "three-cornered hat" theory, because it's poorly documented and I always assumed it came from the US, where 18th-century clothing is associated with a sort of national costume (George Washington etc.). I noticed that a Chabad article refers to a publication by Yom Tov Lewinski that attributes it to the clothing of officers in the Napoleonic era, as observed by Jews in Russia and Poland.
The source is: 
My Hebrew isn't good enough to translate it well, but I've dumped the Google Translate output below:
Original	Google Translate output
        	Around Poland and Russia there was a tradition that the evil Haman wore a triangular hat, just as they used to wear the high civilian officers in Russia and other countries (Cap Napoleon) and therefore they made the cup in a triangular pattern. Other writers of the customs found that the three foundations were like the three fathers, which Haman saw as his strength. Thus Haman-thash (ie, Haman Tash) is made at three ends (and compared to "the treasure of all the customs of Yeshurun" in the name of Alfasi). In what ancient sources it is said that one is accustomed to eating seeds on the night of Purim - a reminder of Esther who ate seeds in the palace of the king and was not redeemed in the peso. Hence the custom of filling the cake or sowing seeds. Some see the poppy filling the cake as a reminder of the ten thousand shekels that Haman wanted to consider by the craftsmen to bring to the king's treasure.
In our new literature, we called the food Forimi Zed. "Triple bun" (Mendele Moisar, in those days), but the name was accepted in Italy and Ego and on the Purim feast "Ezzy Haman" to this day.
If somebody who is better at Hebrew than I am can take a look at the source, I think there's quite a bit of information that would help this article. Ibadibam (talk) 22:41, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tricorn and Y.T. Lewinski 

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