Talk:Animals Are Beautiful People

message: The "criticism" section currently claims that the segment about the intoxicated animals may be staged. I believe that several other segments are staged as well:
* One shocking example is the segment where a tree full of bird nests burns down, supposedly after being there for 100 years. Are we to believe that the photographer was so lucky as to capture on film a rare once-in-100-years fluke event? Unfortunately it is far more likely that the photographers actually started the fire :(
* Several segments are appear to be animation, not real photography like they (crudely) pretend to be. One example is the tree shooting out seeds which seems suspiciously animated, not real. Another even more obvious example is the baboon's trapped hand, which is animated.
I think these things significantly detract from the movie's documentary quality, though not from the enjoyment of watching it. However, for these things to seriously appear in the article, we should cite sources making these claims, rather than just making them.... So I'm making them in the talk page instead :-)
Nyh (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Due to its well-known alcoholic capacities, rumours abound as to the Marula's intoxicating effects on wild animals. While elephants and baboons both relish the fruit, the former would need to consume prodigious amounts of already fermenting fruit for it to have even the mildest impact, and since these huge animals drink up to 160 litres of water a day, there would anyway be a major diluting effect. Interestingly, examination of fresh elephant dung show that less than ten percent of Marula fruits are actually 'processed' in any way - most fruit passes through the digestive tract intact. Observations on baboons suggest that they prefer fresh Marula fruit and because the pulp is digested and the seeds passed within a 24-hour period, fermentation is impossible. The infamous scene in a popular movie from the 1970s - Jamie Uys' 'Beautiful People', which depicted a troop of obviously drunken baboons in and under a Marula tree, was clearly man-induced and would today be outlawed in terms of animal cruelty.
Nyh (talk) 07:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

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