Talk:Amdocs

message: * merge - I don't see how it is justified to have seperate article for different branches. The DVCI article should/could be merged into a section of the main article. --Shuki 19:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Amdocs India

message: First of all, the news report doesn't provide any hard evidence. Secondly, and more importantly, any newsreport of alleged Israeli wrong-doing is not relevant to an article covering a partly Isreali owned and operated company.
Second that, this report has virtually no relevance to amdocs. Removed. wimbledon andy 16:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  9/11 Fox news report implying some Israelis' knowledge of relevant information before the attacks 

message: AFAIK, Aurec is not Aurum (Gold) but the Hebrew word for Artery ("עורק"), which in Hebrew is used to describe a communication channel.
There is and there never was a company named "Aurec". Aurec was probably a brand name or maybe it was the name of the office building they were first doing business out of. The company in Israel was doing business under the name "P.S. Publishing Ltd.". They later changed the name to "Amdocs Israel Ltd." This company has no relevance to the publicly traded US (Delaware) corporation Amdocs Inc. (except they have some business relations and some of the ownership is the same).
PowerToKnow 20:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aurec 

message: Not surprisingly, this shady company has removed its customer list since the Fox News report.  Might as well remove the link unless someone can find the information elsewhere.— Possible single purpose account: 74.129.230.148 (talk • contribs)  has made little or no other contributions outside this topic.
I have found a link to their customer list: http://www.amdocs.com/Site/About/Customers/Our+Customers.htm 
while doing some research with a view to contact such customers. I have been working for AMDOCS between May and August and still haven't been paid for last month of work. Looks like "shady" may be quite a mild qualification for these guys...Negusc 09:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Customer list 

message: Some commercial PR talk has been removed. The list of products remains unsourced, and it would be good to see evidence that they are of any current Notability.  DGG 07:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: minus puffery

message: If anyone is considering working for AmDocs, first read 
You may also want to consider the size of the recruitment agency (the smaller they are the more difficult will be to get paid) and especially the payment terms between such agency and Amdocs. From my experience they have a 60 days payment terms which means you may be working 60 days with no pay ! That in itself may be acceptable as long as you know it in advance but - as it has happened to me - you may find that, after you end the contract, you still don't get paid and have no means of getting the money unless you are prepared to sue (not that such action is a guarantee of receiving what's owed to you but it may help...). More details ? E-mail me ! Negusc 09:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if other multi-national company articles on WP also get disgruntled ex-employees with a chip on their shoulder. The URL you posted is old. We can only recommend that you find references and improve this article. --Shuki 18:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems

message: i didnt see the conection between amdocs to Where it developed-Israel
the compane was Founded in Israel not in missuri its an israeli company 
in the "company box" you should reppr this.
in the hebrew wiki the Headquarters is in Israel ,Ra'anana.
and the official office is in missuri!
repper this!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.51.252 (talk) 12:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  wrong thing 

message: This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it is no different then any other Wikipedia entry for a corporation and has public accessible information and is not a solicitation of product or service.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.160.130.92 (talk) 23:35, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I've removed advertising from the article, which include acquisitions list, profit and loss numbers, share prize, market listing number, not notable people, and office numbers and places. Wikipedia Terms of Use no longer except advertising in any manner at any time, and must be removed immediately.  All the above are considered non notable and advertising, as they serve no encyclopedic purpose, apart to inform the reason of aspects of the company, of the performance of company, which is advertising. Such advertising puts Wikipedia's licence at risk of removal, as WP is not an adverting platform, per WP:NOTADVERTISING scope_creep (talk) 16:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertising Removed

message: Some reworking of the language is in order. Amdocs has not been tied to any known espionage activity—only speculation about the potential for such activity. A U.S. government investigation in 2000 did not support any findings that Amdocs was used in foreign espionage.  I'm going to update the section accordingly. --Jprg1966 (talk) 04:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversy" section non-balance 

message: Please note that in regard to the “controversy” section, Yale has changed their ranking of Amdocs https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/almost-1000-companies-have-curtailed-operations-russia-some-remain. Their article has been updated, giving Amdocs a B grade. The “worst category of “Digging in” meaning Defying Demands for Exit” statement on Wikipedia is inaccurate. 
 
Amdocs has reduced its activities in Russia and you can find the CEO’s latest public statement on Amdocs’ position on the conflict in his Q2 earnings remarks https://investors.amdocs.com/financial-information/earnings-reports. They have been pasted below:
 
 “Let me say a few words about Amdocs' exposure to Russia and Ukraine and our response to the humanitarian crisis unfolding. From a business perspective, Amdocs' exposure to Russia and Ukraine is immaterial and roughly 1% of revenue, and its impact is already reflected in our guidance. Furthermore, we believe we have taken all necessary steps to ensure we are fully compliant with the applicable sanctions and export control, and we have stopped all new sales of our product and services in Russia.
 
 We have also taken steps to ensure the wellbeing of the employees and contractors we have in the region and to support those who wanted to leave with their families. Additionally, we are actively providing humanitarian aid in Ukraine and neighboring countries. Among our many initiatives, Amdocs is part of a donation campaign to provide essential services via UNICEF to vulnerable children and affected families. We are also offering financial support to Amdocs' employees, who are hosting refugee families.” Shuky Sheffer, CEO, Amdocs
PR amdocs (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it was taken care by another editor here. Ptrnext (talk) 06:16, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yale University Changed Amdocs’ Rating Re: Russia 

message: Please note that some of this page's content is out of date based on the latest public earnings release, which came out on August 2nd, 2022. 
Some edits include:
Number of employees is no longer 29,000. It is now 31,000. Note in boilerplate here. https://www.amdocs.com/news-press/amdocs-vubiquity-expands-content-services-agreement-oi
Revenue is out of date. Amdocs had revenue of $4.3 billion in fiscal 2021. https://investors.amdocs.com/news-releases/news-release-details/third-quarter-results-fiscal-2022
Amdocs' growth is in some new areas not covered on this page, including 5G rollout and monetization, cloud adoption, digital modernization, and network automation. https://investors.amdocs.com/news-releases/news-release-details/third-quarter-results-fiscal-2022
Thanks!
PR amdocs (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated financials and employees from per SEC filings. Are there any secondary sources that talk about the company's growth into those new areas? Please re-open once you can provide them. Thanks. Ptrnext (talk) 05:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to general, outdated information (employees, revenue figures, etc.) 

message: Please note that in regard to the “controversy” section, Yale has changed their ranking of Amdocs https://som.yale.edu/story/0/over-000-companies-have-curtailed-operations-russia-some-remain. Their article has been updated in June 2022, giving Amdocs a B grade. The “worst category of “Digging in” meaning Defying Demands for Exit” statement on Wikipedia is inaccurate.
Amdocs has reduced its activities in Russia, and you can find the CEO’s latest public statement on Amdocs’ position on the conflict in his Q2 earnings remarks https://investors.amdocs.com/static-files/5decae34-2451-4f30-856a-1f0ceb0435f6. They have been pasted below:
“Let me say a few words about Amdocs' exposure to Russia and Ukraine and our response to the humanitarian crisis unfolding. From a business perspective, Amdocs' exposure to Russia and Ukraine is immaterial and roughly 1% of revenue, and its impact is already reflected in our guidance. Furthermore, we believe we have taken all necessary steps to ensure we are fully compliant with the applicable sanctions and export control, and we have stopped all new sales of our product and services in Russia.
We have also taken steps to ensure the wellbeing of the employees and contractors we have in the region and to support those who wanted to leave with their families. Additionally, we are actively providing humanitarian aid in Ukraine and neighboring countries. Among our many initiatives, Amdocs is part of a donation campaign to provide essential services via UNICEF to vulnerable children and affected families. We are also offering financial support to Amdocs' employees, who are hosting refugee families.” Shuky Sheffer, CEO, Amdocs
This was previously removed from the page, but re-added improperly.
PR amdocs (talk) 12:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ptrnext (talk) 01:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yale University Changed Amdocs’ Rating Re: Russia 

message: Amdocs recently reported its end of year earnings, and reported a fiscal 2022 revenue of $4.58 billion. Requesting this figure be updated on the sidebar. Thank you!
https://investors.amdocs.com/news-releases/news-release-details/fourth-quarter-results-fiscal-2022
PR amdocs (talk) 16:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: . I've updated all the financial parameters in the infobox based on the annual report (Form 20-F) that was published today. Ptrnext (talk) 04:44, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update to revenue figures 

message: Hello, I'm posting here as part of my work with Beutler Ink, on behalf of Amdocs. Because of my conflict of interest, I will not make direct changes to this article and instead will only suggest changes on this Talk page for other editors to review. 
First off, I have a few updates for figures in the Infobox: 
*Update Revenue to:   (2023)
*Update Operating income to:  US$698 million (2023)
*Update Net income to:  US$543 million (2023)
Reason: standard updates to common figures found in infoboxes. 
Source: 
Thanks for reviewing! Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 22:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for taking a look! I've updated each instance of the ref with the page number where that figure is confirmed. Note that for "operating income" the report uses the term "free cash flow". Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 17:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you! Regards,  Spintendo  02:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good, thanks! BINK Robin (talk) 20:51, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: Update Infobox 

message: *The provided reference is a 19 page pdf. To confirm this information, please provide the page where the information exists.
*When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the  template's answer parameter to read from  to . Thank you! 
Regards,  Spintendo  03:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for taking a look! I've updated each instance of the ref with the page number where that figure is confirmed. Note that for "operating income" the report uses the term "free cash flow". Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 17:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you! Regards,  Spintendo  02:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good, thanks! BINK Robin (talk) 20:51, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 12-DEC-2023

message: Hello again. Below are two separate requests to improve this article. The current article's History section, in particular, is mostly WP:PROSELINE and both requests here deal with that. I am making them together so editors can see all the changes in context Because I am making these requests as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of Amdocs, I will not directly edit the article. Thanks for taking a look! BINK Robin (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , after swapping out press release and adding page number to filing.  STEMinfo (talk) 22:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Happy to provide clarifications. 
#Apologies if that was not clear. The idea is to move leadership information from History into a Leadership subsection of a new Overview section I propose creating. So the details would not change, or be repeated, but the leadership history would be collected into a single location in the article so it's easier to understand who the company CEO was and when. I've also replaced primary sourcing with third-party sourcing, and added sources to verify when Avi Naor became CEO, as well as Shuky Sheffer, both of which are currently unsourced. 
#Rather than create a long list on this Talk page, I created a copy of the article in my User space, and created this diff, which shows in detail all of the changes, including content to remove, that is part of this request. Does that work for you? I can list it out here, too, but thought this might be a bit easier to review.
Let me know what you think, I'm happy to hear thoughts or split this into smaller requests if needed. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 23:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems to be more common to have the history section first, and then the leadership changes integrated chronologically. Having a standalone highly placed leadership section hints at a vanity project and self-promotion. Others may disagree. STEMinfo (talk) 00:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  I appreciate the feedback. I'd initially grouped the leadership content together because I see that often in corporate profiles, typically grouped with operations and corporate affairs information. But I'm not committed to that placement and happy to integrate it back into history. I've gone ahead and done that in the proposal above, please let me know if you have any other thoughts on these changes. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 21:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  with a few modifications. I didn't add the Light Reading wireless vendor of the year item as too promotional. The award isn't covered anywhere except by Light Reading, so I didn't feel right adding it.  I also didn't include the Bloomberg gender-equality index item, for the same reason, and there are a lot of companies recognized.  Doesn't seem that special. The source didn't say Comverse dissolved in 2015, so I omitted that phrase.  I swapped out the Openet Yahoo press release (per site consensus against pr), and the Forbes Bridgewater coverage, since Forbes didn't specifically state the date of the acquisition. Looks better now. STEMinfo (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much! your modifications all make sense to me. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 21:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article improvements 

message: First, I suggest the addition of a new section called Overview, which includes a subsection called Leadership. I've drafted what I believe this should look like in the box below: 
*Reason: This section provides additional information about what the company is and basic operations figures such as number of employees and where it operates.
*Sources: 
My goal here is to make this article comprehensive and easier to read. I am open to feedback, and happy to hear any comments. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , after swapping out press release and adding page number to filing.  STEMinfo (talk) 22:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part 1: Overview 

message: As noted above, the History section relies on single sentence paragraphs and could use an overhaul. Much of it reads as nothing more than a list of acquisitions, without context or relevance provided.
*I suggest Replacing the entire History section with the content in the box below: 
*Reason: This will bring the article up to date, split the section into logical subsections, and adds some details about recent company activity. Because of WP:NOTEVERYTHING, I also trimmed down the number of acquisitions to those that represented more significant changes in the company's direction or operating areas. I've also added third-party sources to verify leadership changes, along with timestamps that were missing.
*Sources:
That's all for this portion of the article. I hope editors agree that this is an improvement over the current version. I am open to feedback, and happy to hear any comments. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part 2: History 

message: # The reasoning in the first section of the request above states  If the information is already "spread throughout" the current article, and because this section is new and not meant to replace any other sections, it sounds as if this will create duplicate information. Please clarify.
#Please also include (in the second section of the request above) the text to be deleted/replaced. 
Regards,  Spintendo  23:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy to provide clarifications. 
#Apologies if that was not clear. The idea is to move leadership information from History into a Leadership subsection of a new Overview section I propose creating. So the details would not change, or be repeated, but the leadership history would be collected into a single location in the article so it's easier to understand who the company CEO was and when. I've also replaced primary sourcing with third-party sourcing, and added sources to verify when Avi Naor became CEO, as well as Shuky Sheffer, both of which are currently unsourced. 
#Rather than create a long list on this Talk page, I created a copy of the article in my User space, and created this diff, which shows in detail all of the changes, including content to remove, that is part of this request. Does that work for you? I can list it out here, too, but thought this might be a bit easier to review.
Let me know what you think, I'm happy to hear thoughts or split this into smaller requests if needed. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 23:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems to be more common to have the history section first, and then the leadership changes integrated chronologically. Having a standalone highly placed leadership section hints at a vanity project and self-promotion. Others may disagree. STEMinfo (talk) 00:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  I appreciate the feedback. I'd initially grouped the leadership content together because I see that often in corporate profiles, typically grouped with operations and corporate affairs information. But I'm not committed to that placement and happy to integrate it back into history. I've gone ahead and done that in the proposal above, please let me know if you have any other thoughts on these changes. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 21:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  with a few modifications. I didn't add the Light Reading wireless vendor of the year item as too promotional. The award isn't covered anywhere except by Light Reading, so I didn't feel right adding it.  I also didn't include the Bloomberg gender-equality index item, for the same reason, and there are a lot of companies recognized.  Doesn't seem that special. The source didn't say Comverse dissolved in 2015, so I omitted that phrase.  I swapped out the Openet Yahoo press release (per site consensus against pr), and the Forbes Bridgewater coverage, since Forbes didn't specifically state the date of the acquisition. Looks better now. STEMinfo (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much! your modifications all make sense to me. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 21:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 20-DEC-2023

message: Hello, I'd like to request a change to the image in this article's Infobox. The current image is out of date, as the company has moved its offices in Ra'anana. Amdocs has donated this image of the new location. Would editors be willing to replace the current image with  this image of the new facility? 
I am making this request as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of Amdocs, and do not make direct changes because of my conflict of interest. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: . The water reflection taking up half the image isn't exactly my favourite, but it's a definite improvement over the generic office building the article previously had. Thanks for the photo. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  01:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! BINK Robin (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image update