Talk:Vladimir Vernadsky

message: I wish I had access to more texts on Vernadsky, so that there could be more than just mentioning his ideas of the Noosphere here in Wikipedia. Also there are even richer writings of Vernadsky that I will try and incorporate here in the future (like his thoughts on Biogeochemistry and Scientific thought, and his leanings towards Riemann's mathematical methods).
T3liph0n3 05:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: * A few facts about Vernadsky`s attitude towards Ukrainian separatism (link is in Ukraininan): он в 1918 году отказался принять украинское гражданство от гетмана Павла СкоропадскогоГерич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос и считал себя русским человекомГерич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос, отстаивал единство России и противостоял украинцам-самостийникам, как австро- и германофиламГерич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос. Владимир Вернадский также негативно относился к украинизации 1920—1930-х годов, считая её насильственной, называл язык вывесок и сочинения Михаила Грушевского «язычием»Герич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос. Своим главным культурно-общественным заданием он считал сохранение русской культуры на УкраинеГерич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос, объединение украинцев, которым дорога русская культура, и развитие связей с российскими научными учреждениями[http://litopys.org.ua/rizne/gyrych.htm Герич И. Владимир Вернадский и национальный вопрос.
**The same article also states that he spoke Ukrainian and was of Ukrainian ethnicity.  Basically, he was an ethnic Ukrainian who was also a Russian patriot.Faustian (talk) 20:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vernadsky`s attitude towards Ukrainian separatism

message: More on family origins:
http://www.wumag.kiev.ua/index2.php?param=pgs20033/48
Volodymyr Vernadsky was born in St Petersburg on March 12 1863. His father, Ivan, was a professor. His family had an estate in the village of Velyki Shyshaky in the land of Poltavshchyna, Ukraine, and they often went there to spend the summer. 
According to the family lore, the Vernadskys were of Cossack extraction. Volodymyr’s great grandfather, Ivan Vernadsky, was a starshyna (a military rank) of the Zaporizhian Sich Cossacks, and when under the Empress Catherine II, the Sich was dissolved, Ivan, in search of a safer place to live in, made his way to a village in the land of Chernihivshchyna where he settled down. One way or the other, he became a priest but the villagers found him lacking in zeal. Ivan Vernadsky was more preoccupied with getting himself and his children promoted to nobility for which, he claimed, he had inalienable rights as a free Cossack of a high military rank. He did get what he wanted but later he was expelled from the ranks of the nobility, probably for not having enough qualifications after all. Ivan was said to have died at a cemetery during the funeral service which he was to conduct as a priest. He was very reluctant to conduct that service but was forced to do it by the angry parishioners, and was so overwhelmed by anger that he succumbed to a stroke.
Volodymyr Vernadsky, the future prophetic scientist, showed a growing interest for the history of Ukraine, the land of his ancestors, at the age of thirteen. One of the biographers of Vernadsky writes that it happened when Volodymyr was — with his father — touring Italy. When in Milan, Volodymyr read in a newspaper about a Russian government ukase that forbade the publication of books in Ukrainian in Ukraine. Much amazed and perplexed, he asked his father to explain why such an idiotic ban had been put on Ukrainian publications. His father told the teenager the basic facts about the Ukrainian history. Upon their return to St Petersburg, Volodymyr began reading whatever he could lay his hands on about Ukraine, its culture and history. When he found some books about Ukraine in Polish, he learnt Polish just in order to read them. 
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Lev Gumilev in one of his writings also stressed that Vernadsky was an ethnic Ukrainian.Faustian (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: Amendments were made to the nationality of Vernadsky. Changes in the national with the "Ukrainian" on "Russian." I suggest following article in the Ukrainian language on nationality.
http://litopys.org.ua/rizne/gyrych.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maßschneider (talk • contribs) 20:07, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm addressing this issue in a new section below. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: I translate with google. It is necessary to be critical of Ukrainian literary and newspaper sources - after 1991 (after gaining independence) they are very often guided by the principle "Ukraine is not Russia" and fundamentally all, even purely Russian (and other nations of people) born 100-200-500 years ago on the territories where modern Ukraine is now located are recorded in Ukrainians. The joke of the Russian-speaking Internet - "if a bear cub was born in a pigsty, is it a pig?"--2.132.83.230 (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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