Talk:Gilles Duceppe

message: A lot of polls are showing the Bloc as forming the Official Opposition, so I assume this would be appropriate, just in case.
 Gilles Duceppe
                      	
Rank:                 	24th Leader of the Official Opposition
First Term of Office: 	January 15 1996 - February 16 1996
Second Term of Office:	March 15 1997 - June 1 1997
Third Term of Office: 	February 2006 - present
First Predecessor:    	Lucien Bouchard
Second Predecessor:   	Michel Gauthier
Third Predecessor:    	Stephen Harper
Birth:                	July 22, 1947
Place of Birth:       	Montreal, Quebec
Political Party:      	Bloc Québécois
:He's already been the leader of the Official Opposition once, so it belongs on the page. CrazyC83 18:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gilles Duceppe, Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition

message: The introductory paragraph of an article should explain why this person is notable, so I have added the key facts about who he is, i.e., MP and leader of the BQ. Also, until Quebec is independent, the article should identify what country he is from in the introductory paragraph, so I have added back in the link to Canada, after the province. Kevintoronto 21:24, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Introductor paragraph

message: this is quite the creepy image and it seem to have been photoshoped a bit. I'm surprise it would be his official picture.--Marc pasquin 18:09, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd be more surprised to find out all pictures of him look like that, as does he in real life ^.^ Sherurcij 08:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  photography 

message: Just a little comment:
Whenever I read "well-known Québécois actor", it sounds odd as I always used quebecer and not québécois for one is clearly in english while the other in french. I never use Quebecois in English so I wondered why anyone else would. Unless if it was meant derogatorily. I hope no one was stupid enough to input personnal feelings or polical views in this!
Non, parce que c'est une formule originalement française qui a eté emprunté dans l'anglais.
: The word Québécois is commonly used by Canadian anglophones to refer to francophone Quebecers, whether they are "pure laine" or otherwise, as distinct from residents of Quebec in general.
: It's not derogatory.  (Of course, it can be derogatory in a specific context, but that's true of anything). --Saforrest 06:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As a Québécois, that term is the proper terminology for most people who identifies themselves as a person who lives in Quebec. "Quebecker" is a term used mostly by Canadian Anglophones or non-French speakers. --Satanstorm (talk) 15:30, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. Quebecer is fine with me, and I am pure laine ;). Bouchecl (talk) 20:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't it be Quebecer instead of Qubecois? 

message: I'm reverting the edit that talks about Duceppe getting fired. Aside from it being sloppily done (the sentence doesn't even end), I can't find anything more than this speaking of his work at the hospital. If you have a reference, you can add the information back, although it probably shouldn't go in the introduction, since it's not very relevant. Also, this shows Duceppe as a negotiator. FireWorks 23:49, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orderly 

message: Could somebody clear up the education aspect of things. 
It is written that he completed his baccalaureate of collegiate studies after studies at Université de Montréal
"Duceppe later earned a baccalaureate of collegiate studies from the Collège Mont-Saint-Louis."
Yet it seems he got this diploma in 1968 and years at Université de Montréal write about the paper in 1970. 
That would make his university years after is baccalaureate of collegiate studies not before.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.200.161.49 (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: As an interesting side note, compare the educational background of the leaders of the separatist movement to the leaders of other major parties in Canada. The new leader of the Liberal party holds a PhD, the leader of the NDP holds a PhD, and the leader of the Conservatives holds a Master's degree (with original research). On the other hand, Duceppe holds what amounts essentially to a CEGEP diploma and Boisclair holds a one year Master's degree from a special program at Harvard that does not require candidates to hold a previous undergraduate degree (which Boisclair does not). Furthermore, unlike Harper's Master' degree, Boisclair did not contribute original research while studying. In fact, the only thing that got Boisclair into the JFK school of government was his years of service as an elected politician and $33,000 USD – hardly the exemplar of a brilliant mind.
The separatist movement in Quebec – in comparison to their opposition – is lead by unread, uneducated, populist leaders. That sums up the PQ's and the Bloc's values – populism over substance or intellect.
:: Lucien Bouchard has a Law degree. Jacques Parizeau has a degree in Economy from the London School of Economics. Joseph Facal, which was Lucien Bouchard's top strategist, is from Uruguay and has a PhD in Sociology. Pauline Marois, who could become the next leader of the PQ, has a master's degree in business administration. This list could go on for a long time. Seems like your opinion is not based on facts. So you hate the separatist movement... Big deal! But stop polluting the Wikipedia. Hugo Dufort 09:55, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  And I forgot Bernard Landry: «Bernard Landry received a degree in law from the Université de Montréal in Montreal, and a degree in economics and finance from Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris in Paris. A practising lawyer, he was a partner in the Montreal law firm of "Lapointe Rosenstein" when he was elected (...)» We can hardly call these leaders "unread, uneducated and populist". Hugo Dufort 05:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  How do you explain the popular support, then? Support for independence is constantly between 40% and 50% (newspapers run polls on the subject every now and then), despite the fact that support for the PQ and the BQ can sink to levels as low as 28% at times. Hugo Dufort 22:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison

message: The article includes a often-told story from Duceppe's childhood: "Duceppe's English-speaking Grade 6 teacher slapped him for complaining when the French students had to stand in the aisles on a school bus, and he slapped her back."  This event is obviously seared into Duceppe's memory since it influenced his future thinking about Quebec's place in the Canadian federation.  I would be interested in learning more about this story, especially since it involves a particularly Old South type of discrimination, i.e., on school buses, French students stand and English students sit.  Also, what happened after the dual slapping? Did either the teacher (do we know her name?) or Duceppe get suspended?  What have we heard from the students who witnessed this incident?  I'm not sure we need a blow-by-blow account of the story in the Duceppe article, but I am curious what is known about it.Que-Can 17:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not made up.  See http://www.cbc.ca/montreal/features/bios/duceppe/  I'm putting it back into the article. Snickerdo (talk) 01:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Just a general comment on the article's 'slapping story'. I get a chuckle out of trying to picture the incident - try & imagine, little Duceppe (wearing a factory net on his head, my imagination) 'in' slapper shodown (truly a riot). GoodDay (talk) 16:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: The story may or may not be true. The problem is, without corroborating evidence to support M. Duceppe's tale, we'll never know.Que-Can (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Teacher Slapping Story?

message: Oct 11th, 2008, repaired vandalism regarding political action taken and "ethnic cleansing" in Quebec. I recommend we keep a close eye on this in light of the election coming up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.59.243.105 (talk) 01:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: He is very critical of creationists and of the conservatives for being a "party of creationists". I think more should be put here about whether he is a religious man or not. I believe he is not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.243.221 (talk) 04:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Duceppe is an atheist, however there aren't any sources I know of where he says so explicitly.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.27.204 (talk) 01:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: According to this, Duceppe resigned as BQ leader "nine days after" the May 2 fed election. GoodDay (talk) 14:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We have been using the Parliament of Canada source, as it has been the only one to give a date. 117Avenue (talk) 03:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps 'both dates' can be used. GoodDay (talk) 17:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  BQ leader - resignation date 

message: There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages. 
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion. 
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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