Talk:Tower of David

message: This article has two contradictory explanations, differing by around 1000 years, for how the name "Tower of David" came about. Zerotalk 13:20, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name 

message: I reverted this edit because 1) The daytime picture is stunning, and 2) The nighttime picture is of low pixel quality. Yoninah (talk) 19:17, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverted image

message: "As evidenced by the archaeological discovery of the Broad Wall, King Hezekiah was the first to specifically fortify this area."
If this is "evidenced", surely we may expect some kind of evidence that will support this statement. Please add reliable sources, or delete this claim. --93.212.241.30 (talk) 22:57, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "dubious – discuss" 

message: Other than the Herodian towers, everything else is a mess all the way until the Mamluks. No plausible historical outline for the apparition and evolution of a citadel here (nothing useful about any structures during the Kingdom of Judah, Hasmoneans, Herod other than the towers -3 unconnected residential towers are not a citadel-, Romans after 70 CE, Byzantines, in part later too). Who built one first? What does "destruction" mean? (We have 3 mentioned in a row, w/o a word about any re-construction in between). What happened to the citadel when Ayyubid sultan Al-Mu'azzam 'Isa demolished the city walls in 1219? Nothing makes sense.
Once ARCHAEOLOGY is brought in (was it Nachman Avigad and/or Hillel Geva? Any new digs since?), we start making sense, but not before that. 4th- and 5th-hand info is useless, just the blabla of bored old tour guides. Arminden (talk) 12:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  No real info until Mamluk period, nothing at all on archaeology. Very, very poor. 

message: Removed what looks like somebody's "own research", based on poor source and ignoring/misunderstanding even the site plans from the quoted source.
"As evidenced by the archaeological discovery of the Broad Wall, King Hezekiah was the first to fortify this area."
-Why not: The "Broad Wall" section excavated in the Jewish Qtr is far to the W of the Citadel. It is no proof whatsoever that Hez. fortified "this area". The W Hill is quite vast, the Citadel just a section of it.
Quoted source: "Broad Wall - Jerusalem 101; see maps."
-Not valid: Miserably poor source ("A Bible Teaching Ministry of Galyn Wiemers" - Galyn WHO?), which nevertheless uses good area plans from academic sources, both of which show that Hezekiah's "broad wall" stopped very far to the west of the Mamluk citadel & Jaffa Gate. So "see maps" and convince yourselves that they prove the Citadel area was NOT included by Hezekiah.
-"The city's fortifications demonstrate that by the late eighth century the city had expanded to include the hill to the west of the Temple Mount...... etc., etc.
-Irrelevant: see above: Hezekiah's wall never reached so far west. No connection to our topic whatsoever.
Please, pay more attention when you edit, especially when it borders on "own research", i.e.: you cannot find a good source stating PRECISELY what you wish to prove. Arminden (talk) 17:19, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  No findings of, not even theoretical connection to, Hezekiah's wall 

message: Section ("Tower of David": Ottoman minaret), the citation used does not say anything about the claims made in that section:
"it became popularly used for the 17th-century Ottoman minaret prominently visible on the wall of the citadel; ever since people use the name 'Tower of David' either for the whole citadel or just for the minaret."
Also, when talking about being used, please specify by whom; Arab locals, the Ottoman authorities, Western travelers? --Crazyketchupguy (talk) 07:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Ottoman name