Talk:Strength training/Merger discussion

message: DECEMBER 2006 - PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MERGER HAS ALREADY OCCURRED AND THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, there is no need to keep voting on the subject.  The substantive content that made weight training a featured article has been moved wholesale to the strength training article, all that remains on the weight training page is the information that differentiates weight training from other forms of strength training.  Information has not been lost, it has been moved.  WLU 16:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: semantics, semantics. Weight training is strength training and resistance training is strength training, but weight training is not resistance training. Resistance is when you use elastics, hydraulics, or anything similar to that. Both are strength training, but both are not resistance training and both are not weight training. -- 00:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the problem is more, like myself initially, Obsidian doesn't realize what is meant by resistance training.  You gotta admit, the first thing people think of when resistance training comes up is strength training.  Hence the need for the merge and a big 'ol tag saying 'resistance in the sense of elastic'.  WLU 01:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was aware of both meanings, but what I mostly hear people use it as is the other kind (not elastic).  Could be just local usage, I guess.  OTOH I agree there is significant overlap between all of these, so perhaps something to be gained from a merge.  Either way.  Weight training looks like a massive article, so good luck ;) ObsidianOrder 06:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge of weight training, strength training and resistance training

message: I started the merger of the three articles, I moved much of the weight training info over to strength training, and cleaned up a little bit of the weight training.  The terminology should be harmonized to each article and the references to different types of strength training should be removed or modified.  WLU 18:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Many things evolve and the fitness industry is vastly evolving. To use my analogy and make more sense. When you buy a vehicle you can buy a car, a truck, SUV, or an RV, etc. All of those are vehicles, however, only one type is a truck and only one type is a car. Both weight training and resistance training is Strength Training. We're not talking about Physics, we're talking about exercise. I realize it has some physics, but just like the Physical Fitness Industry does not define the Physics industry, the reversal also cannot happen. Look at the trend, Curves is the largest Fitness franchise in the country, the second or third in Canada, and is growing worldwide. Also, copycats Ladies Workout Express, Countours, etc are all changing the industry and making people take note. Some YMCA's and some Ballys Fitness' are inserting Circuit Training rooms and/or Resistance Training rooms. Many Physical Therapist are switching to hydraulic equipment (resistance training) which is more safe on joints and causing less injuries because it allows you to increase and control the intensity moreso than using free/stack weights (weight training). Hydraulic is a function of speed, the harder and faster you push the more resistance. Elastic is a function of resistance bands or force (something like that). And Weights, well you add more weights, you don't increase the resistance you increase the weights or lbs/kilos. This is more simple than the complexity that physics will lend to it. Both are strength training, but both are not resistance training. --Maniwar (talk) 15:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Started merger