Talk:Yamashita's gold

message: I removed a paragraph about the court not finding that the treasure found was Yamashita's treasure, primarily because it was not sourced, but also because it gives undue emphasis to the denial of an assertion that was never made in the preceding material.  The material that precedes it was carefully crafted to be accurate about the facts and allegations of the case.  The prior material never states as a fact that the legendary treasure was found.  However, the facts of the lawsuit were accurately laid out so that the reader could make up his own conclusions.  Those facts include that the testimony that was accepted by the court in sustaining the judgement included:  Roxas claimed he was following a map from the son of a Japanese soldier to Yamashita's treasure; Roxas also claimed to be following information from Yamashita's interpreter; and Roxas even claimed that he found a skeleton in a Japanese military uniform in the chamber with the treasure.  It was this testimony that the court accepted when it found sufficient evidence to support the finding that Roxas had found the treasure.  Thus, although there was no specific finding that this was in fact the legendary Yamashita's treasure, there was significant information accepted by the court in sustaining the judgment pointing to Yamashita and a Japanese treasure stash.  Thus, the removed material was confusing and gave a false impression.  Are there any other explanations for a sealed underground chamber in the Philippines filled with a giant gold Buddha, crates of gold bars, samurai swords, and dead Japanese soldiers?   Tommylotto (talk) 17:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been hashed out before, back in 2007, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yamashita%27s_gold/Archive_1#Largest_damage_award_reversed_on_appeal
"On November 17, 1998, the Hawaii Supreme Court reversed the $41 billion judgment against Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos. The court found insufficient evidence that Roxas had actually discovered the gold bullion while treasure hunting north of Manila in 1971."   Jim (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Link to Department of Justice bulletin here:   http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/ctcvlc96.pdf      Jim (talk) 00:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am very familiar with the editing history of this page. That has noting to do with properly sourced references. Jim (talk) 20:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Any further use of that source in this article will be deleted as vandalism? Are you serious? It says Roxas did not find a treasure...because it has never been proven that he did. A Jury award is not proof, nor is newspaper editorials. You need to source "The Yamashita Treasure was found by Roxas and stolen from Roxas by Marcos' men." by either a link or other means  Jim (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Oh, it is not a game. Your source is a court document, which is not a reliable reference or source. Again...just because a Jury gives an award or a newspaper does an editorial....does not make it proof. My edits do not serve your agenda, that is not vandalism. That is including properly sourced material in the article Jim (talk) 14:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit Findings 

message: Please allow me to just put some pointers here. Maybe over time the list can grow so people can assess what's fact and fiction.
This source is brandnew: 
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2014/s3960457.htm
referred to incorrectly as 'Hashimoto’s treasure'. Read this transcript of a TV docu how the story developed to that. (Maybe download the text as the TV station could well be forced to redact the relevant segments.)
Michael David Kwan writes in his memoirs 'Things that must not be forgotten' how Yashimota creamed off when being a big shot in Japan ruled China. 
Imelda Marcos said in an interview (British I think) 'Marcos was a gold trader when I met him', which is kind of odd as his bio does not suggest he came from circles where a young person could become a gold trader, just like that.
Another memoir of a HongKong resident between the wars (which I haven't got any more) talks of all his valuables having been looted by the Japanese. Looting in HongKong at the time is not a secret. 
All these valuables, the Japanese State Treasure, looted items from China and HongKong must have gone somewhere and as the United States controlled the Philippines it made sense to park it there. It must have been on a number of ships, too. 121.209.56.202 (talk) 03:53, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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