Talk:German Christians (movement)

message: The last sentence needs a grammar edit... it's unclear what it's even saying.
--John Maresco 06:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar

message: I wanted to agree with the recent edit that suggested to change the title to "Deutsche Christen", the proper German title of the organization. But according to WP:EN English names should be used, or more specifically "the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works)." To my surprise many of the English sources quoted in the article and many other sources use "German Christians", not "Deutsche Christen", with "Deutsche Christen" only used at the first instance, and in brackets, if at all:
* A Church Divided: German Protestants Confront the Nazi Past by Matthew D. Hockenos 
* Popular Opinion and Political Dissent in the Third Reich: Bavaria 1933-1945 by Ian Kershaw
* Introduction to English edition of: Berlin: 1932-1933: 12 (Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works)
* A Concise History of the Third Reich (Weimar and Now: German Cultural Criticism) by Wolfgang Benz 
* Resistance and Conformity in the Third Reich (Routledge Sources in History) by Martyn Housden 
* Withstanding Hitler by Michael Leonard Graham Balfour 
* Theologians of a New World Order: Rheinhold Niebuhr and the Christian Realists, 1920-1948: Reinhold Niebuhr and the Christian Realists, 1920-48 (Religion in America Life) by Heather A. Warren 
* The Great Passion: An Introduction to Karl Barth's Theology by Eberhard Busch 
* Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Called by God by Elizabeth Raum 
* Biblical Faith and Natural Theology: The Gifford Lectures for 1991: Delivered in the University of Edinburgh (Clarendon Paperbacks) by James Barr 
*Religious Fundamentalism and Political Extremism (Totalitarian Movements and Political Religions) by Leonard Weinberg 
So, since the English literature uses the English translation of the German name of the organization, according to Wikipedia guidelines the title "German Christians" should be retained.--Biologos (talk) 19:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Title: German or English 

message: The article Protestant Reich Church is another name used to describe the German Christians, and it covers the same material as this article. Thus I propose that it be merged into this article.--R-41 (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There are too many offshoot articles on Nazism as it is. Kierzek (talk) 19:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oppose. We might as well merge Mormonism into Christianity in the United States. Pass a Method talk 16:31, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree. The German Christians were a specific branch of Christianity. It does not refer to Christianity in Germany. T-man 2396 (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree And for that matter, "positive Christianity" also seems to be talking about the same thing. JerryRussell (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge the article "Protestant Reich Church" into this article, it says in the article that it was a reference to the German Christians movement  

message: This title is extremely offensive - I would suggest adding a parenthetical to make it clear this page is about a particular organization and not German Christians. It could be linked to naturally from other pages etc. How embarrassing - I'm surprised it hasn't been changed before now. Seraphim System (talk) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: While the title in its present form is unfortunate, the proper noun "German Christians" is the English term that historians use for the German name Deutsche Christen. (i.e. see Hockenos, ,  Bergen, Heschel, Benz and the Holocaust Encyclopedia.  Ericksen uses the German name, Deutsche Christen).  However, they often refer to the "German Christian movement” (see Heschel, in particular).  Perhaps the word “movement” could be added to the present title, i.e. German Christians (movement). Joel Mc (talk) 14:30, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: When was the German Christians founded and who founded them?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:982:8200:4790:5902:BB22:8D5E:465B (talk) 04:25, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founded 

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