Talk:Left communism

message: In the Left Communism 'Post 1968' section, somebody should add something about the Autonomist movement. The problem with this article is that it focuses on the Left Communist movement that preceded or was roughly contemporary with the Bolshevik revolution. There's no mention of crucial later developments in the trend, such as Western Marxism, SI, Autonomism, etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DMPineau (talk • contribs) 21:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old talk 

message: Should this article by merged with Council communism? --Soman 18:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  Different phenomena, although elements of one are a subset of the other, and vice-versa.  As currently, they should link to each other where relevent.  Fifelfoo 02:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And if they are to exist as separate articles, some material needs to be shifted from one to the other and differences needs to be clarified. --Soman 07:59, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: I reverted additions by 84.160.224.182 for chronological and POV reasons.  84.160.224.182 mentioned the split between Bordiga and Damen in the 1950's paragraph, but it is previously descussed in the Italy and the 1920's section.  Which is correct? 
Also the POV introduced "by the way Stalinism invented Leninism" is too complicated to shoehorn in here. DJ Silverfish 15:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  84.160.224.182 

message: How about some mention of Lenin's Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder paper, which greatly influenced mainstream Communists against this movement? Rlquall 23:53, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This paper is a criticism of the Dutch/German wing of Left Communism and should probably be put on the Council Communism page - Mari4344 (talk) 13:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lenin 

message: I've updated the bibliography at the end of the article. In a couple of weeks I'll expand the article again and bring it up to 1968. Hopefully it will be easy enough to cover post-68 developments.
Above the question is asked as to when the damen group was formed. The answer is that Damen helped lead the Fraction from 1926 onwards. he was then a leading member of the ICP. The split in the ICP in the fifties might then be seen as the founding of a Damen group with positions distinct from those of Bordiga. Hopefully I can make things clearer after some more work on the essay.
Someone else makes the point that Lenins Left Wing Communism is not mentioned. A major error on my part I confess and easily rectified.
Jock Haston
Hmm, 
The Russian Communist Left section seems out of place. While this group may have had the name left communist, it clearly did not have either the politics or the historical influences of other groups now labeled Left Communists (and those group indeed might not label themselves left communists). Thus it might deserve a different place other than the first form of left communism mentioned. 
Still, this is actually an excellent entry over-all. Ironic that such "sectarian" topic is actually covered with more NPOV than many mainstream topics I've seen. 
Hans Joseph Solbrig 05:44, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jock's Back 

message: A merger proposal with Left Stalinism has been tagged on this page. I vote no, as that article relates to something completly different. --Soman 08:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Mds 16:25, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I think one could state that the Worker-Communist Parties of Iran and Iraq have political similarities with Left Communism, but are not Left Communists per se and do not originate in the Left Communist tradition. --Soman 13:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds fair to me.  They seem to be moving towards third campism anyway.  Do we have any references for this? Warofdreams talk 18:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran & Iraq 

message: I have edited the "Further reading" to include the ISBN numbers for the ICC books and a link to a brief summary of the communist left by the ICC as well as the MIA page on the subject. I also removed the reference to the ICC book on the Dutch-German Left as being an "unauthorised reprint" of Bourrinet's thesis: if anything it is the other way around, since Bourrinet actually began writing this book when still a member of the ICC and drafts of the first chapters were first published from 1979 onwards in the ICC's International Review. EverHopefull 09:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: A good article, easy to read and interesting, but it should need more citations in the form of ISBN-this-or-that, page 23 third paragraph and John Doe page 23, etc.. Said: Rursus (☻) 21:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More citations needed 

message: The problem is that it reads more like an article on Council Communism than one about Left Communism. There's no mention of crucial later developments in the trend, such as Western Marxism, Autonomism, etc. The trajectory of these schools is obviously left communist. This is a very broad topic, so it should focus on all schools of communist political thought that fall to the left of Marxist-Leninism.DMPineau (talk) 21:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Have added a sentence in post-68 section. BobFromBrockley (talk) 10:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is too Narrow 

message: Loren Goldner isn't exactly a group.  The article might refer to Goldner being an individual from the United States, but to the best of my knowledge he has never engaged in any specifically left communist activity in the United States.  How to define activity that is left communist, as opposed to leftist, is another question as well.
Miasnikov (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loren Goldner as a group? 

message: The comments by "Behruz09" about are basically name-calling rather than a dispassionate and accurate characterization of the politics of his targets.  How are these groups "Left Stalinists?"
Miasnikov (talk) 04:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ad hominem comments above regarding Worker-Communist Parties of Iran and Iraq 

message: Clearly this is pretty deceiving as this page covers pro-Bolshevik communism aka. Bordiga
Only Council Communism can be accurately described as 'anti-Bolshevism' (perhaps along with some aspects of Rosa Luxemburg)
I suggest the 'Anti-Bolshevik Communism' redirect be moved to redirect to the council communism page.
UPDATE: i am now going to do this.
J48antialias (talk) 07:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect to page from 'Anti-Bolshevik Communism' 

message: The Italian Communist Left considers itself to be in the Leninist tradition. Although there are certainly deviations from positions advocated by Lenin, this is true of the entire spectrum of organizations calling themselves "Leninist" (i.e., Trotskyists and Stalinists deviate considerably from many things Lenin said), and is, furthermore, to be expected. Any political movement must adjust itself to the circumstances with which it finds itself confronted or it consigns itself to irrelevancy, which Lenin himself realized; none of these directives were eternal principles, but rather were based upon assessments made of the situation then extant. Moreover, the particular purported breaks cited here are not really true of all, if any, Italian Left Communist formations. I'll add supporting documentation later (I don't want to access the necessary websites at work).--Masque (talk) 17:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Break with Leninism? 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Leftist errors. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:17, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Leftist errors" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Left Deviations. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  signed, Rosguill talk 22:47, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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