Talk:John Buscema

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message: As the problems of the original arb case are still ongoing, User:Scott Free and User:Tenebrae are banned again for 3 months from the John Buscema article, ie, until 24:00, 11 Nov 2008 UTC. They may edit the talk page. See Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#John_Buscema for more info. 20:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: ====John Buscema====
For full disclosure and so that the relevant clerk/admins are aware: User:Scott Free, the erstwhile User:Skyelarke —  who like me is currently banned from editing the John Buscema article, though not the talk page —  removed from the talk page a large amount of relevant discussion involving himself, by unilaterally and without discussion moving it into an archive.
I reverted this. Neither he nor I should be removing pertinent discussion related to our editing and our ban. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: For full disclosure and so that the relevant clerk/admins are aware: User:Scott Free, the erstwhile User:Skyelarke —  who like me is currently banned from editing the John Buscema article, though not the talk page —  removed from the talk page a large amount of relevant discussion involving himself, by unilaterally and without discussion moving it into an archive.
I reverted this. Neither he nor I should be removing pertinent discussion related to our editing and our ban. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: John Buscema

message: The Awards section now lists a 1968 Alley for "Best New Strip for The Silver Surfer." However, Alley Award does not list that category. A citation is needed in order to source this discrepancy. 
Also, the Awards section link to the Eisner Hall of Fame needs a pipe or something. --Tenebrae (talk) 03:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Requested pipe has been inserted.  Also, Alley Award does, indeed, list the category of 1968 Best New Strip, under Popularity Poll. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 16:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: IDK, they seem like pretty basic, referenced biographical and bibliographic info. Anyhoo, here they are, so people can judge for themselves.
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50s
1 -'including several stories contributed to the Tex Morgan western title (#'s 4-7).Tom Morgan #4 credits, Tom Morgan #5 credits Tom Morgan #6 credits Tom Morgan #7 credits
2 -His work on Indian Chief is notable late 50's work  Evanier, 7V. He contributed to issues 30-33
Indian Chief #30 credits, Indian Chief #31 credits Indian Chief #32 Indian Chief #33 credits.
60s
3 - Following an offer from Stan Lee which allowed him to cut down on his extensive commuting time,Woolcombe, A.(Aug. 2002). Talking with Big John. Comic Book Artist, 21, p. 26-B. he
4- (Captain America #115, Captain Marvel #18, Sub-Mariner #s 20 and 24)
70s
5- Ernie Chua/Chan was his main inker on Conan the Barbarian in the 1970s, (except for a hiatus between #’s 44-69 which were inked by Tony DeZuniga, Dick Giordano, Tom Palmer, Steve Gan and others). Highlights of the Buscema/Thomas run include the double-sized issues #'s 100Thomas, R.,(February 1998). Roy's Ramblings. Conan Saga, 95, 61-62. and 115Thomas, R. (April 1995). Roy's Ramblings. Conan Saga, V.1, 97, 34-35..
6- Alfredo Alcala was his regular inker on Savage Sword of Conan until #24 and they produced some highly regarded stories. Of note are "Iron Shadows in the Moon" (#4), "The Slithering Shadow" (#20). "The Tower of the Elephant" (#24,)Schumer, A.(Aug. 2002), , Remembering Buscema. Comic Book Artist, 21, p. 23-B. Tony DeZuniga became Buscema' regular inker with #26 producing Conan literary adaptations until his departure with #58 (with Thomas leaving with #60,Thomas. Big John, p.11r.
7 - Buscema left the Thor title (although will return for issues #272-285, inks by Palmer and Stone) to launch the Marvel version of the Edgar Rice Burroughs popular fiction character Tarzan in 1977. Having already done 13 issues of the Jungle-oriented Kazar (in Astonishing Tales and Savage Tales), he pencilled and inked in the first three issues (along with several covers) although he switches to only layouts for the rest of his 18-issue stint with several changes in inkers. Of note is his Tarzan Annual #1 with Steve Gan inks. Thomas. Big John, p.16r.
80s
8- The Thomas, Buscema, Chan team launched a third Conan title, the double-sized bi-monthly King Conan in 1980 as
Buscema continued on Savage Sword of Conan after Thomas and Dezuniga's departures (Ernie Chan, Rudy Nebres, Nestor Redondo took on the inking chores, as did Buscema himself in issues #61, 70, 73) and introduced a character of his own creation, Bront, in a 5-part tale in issues #65-66, 79-81, which he plotted, pencilled, and inked,
9- He continued with the Conan the Barbarian comic book series which had gone through a number of changes in writers and inkers (Bob Camp being the most prolific inker before the return of Ernie Chan as regular inker). Buscema plotted five issues (#'s 155-159). Buscema became increasingly disenchanted with the writing on the various Conan series. Peel. John Buscema, p. 18.
90s
10-Joe Kubert an artist he particularly admired, follow him on that title. Peel. John Buscema, p.66.
11- In 1996, he formally retired at age 68. 1997 was the first year in 30 years where new Buscema material did not appear on the stands - it would also be the last year in Buscema's lifetime, as Buscema continued to receive assignment offers; his retirement thus becoming a "semi-retirement".Spurlock. Buscema Sketchbook, p.95.
12- He also kept active doing private commissions and cover re-creations as well as teaching art classes with abstract expressionist and figurative painter, Jack Beal.  Spurlock. Buscema Sketchbook, p.20. and helped produce the John Buscema Sketchbook (Vanguard 2001) for whose promotion he attended the 2001 San Diego Comic Art Convention where he was received with great appreciation by fans and colleagues.Irving. Life of Buscema. p.11-B. The book gives a good overview of Buscema's wide-ranging passion for art:
13- The documentary Frank Frazetta, Painting with Fire (2003) . Retrieved on June 19, 2007 on Frank Frazetta, another Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert E. Howard illustrator and Brooklyn native (born two months earlier than Buscema), is posthumously dedicated to him.
14- Stan Lee: "John Buscema was far more than one of our finest comic book artists.  If Michaelangelo had elected to draw storyboards with pencil and pen, his style would have been close to that of Big John's.  But, even more than a superb illustrator, John was also a brilliant visual storyteller.  Thinking back on all the strips we had done together, I had only to give him the briefest kernel of a plot and he would flesh it out with his magnificent illustrations so beautifully that the stories seemed to write themselves.  Happily, the legacy of artwork that my dear friend, the creative giant that was John Buscema, leaves behind, will bring wonder and enjoyment to generations of readers to come.". Lee, S., et al. (June 2002). Tributes - A few more words about John Buscema. Alter Ego, v.3, 15, 42v-43v. 
P.S.
Found an interesting reference work on JB on the net:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=foaY1SeVgS8C&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=tex+morgan+buscema&source=bl&ots=PHNX8HYm_d&sig=q9uIrc47sP1pzBaM6jh2ysVupyc&hl=en&ei=bfsfTKKtEcH98AaCmZXEDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=tex%20morgan%20buscema&f=false
--Scott Free (talk) 00:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
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message: ::I'm calling for an RfC. It'll take me a day to put together a comprehensive comparison of your current edits and the previous disallowed edits. I'm very disappointed in your behavior. -- Tenebrae (talk) 02:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
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message: Comment is requested on the large number of edits between two version of John Buscema: The User:Scott Free version on the left and the User:Tenebrae version on the right at this page. --Tenebrae (talk) 03:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see above for new developments after this RfC went up. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
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message: Indian Chief - What is the problem here? All you would need to do is change it to - His work on Indian Chief is notable late 50's work  Evanier, 7V. He contributed to issues 30-33
Indian Chief #30 credits, Indian Chief #31 credits Indian Chief #32 Indian Chief #33 credits.
I checked the first recorded work passage - instead of "Evanier, Mark, and John Buscema, Alter Ego vol. 3, #15 (June 2002) pp.16-17V" it should be "Evanier, Mark, and John Buscema, Alter Ego vol. 3, #15 (June 2002) p.19V".
IDK - Does anyone else besides TB see the various points mentioned as something more than minor tweaks, typos, or a case of adjusting a word of two? I honestly don't sees these points as anything out of the ordinary in a revision process.
--Scott Free (talk) 17:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
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message: John Buscema most certainly DID WORK on Fantastic Four #416. He drew an eight-page backup story titled "Roads Not Taken!" which was written by Tom DeFalco and inked by Tom Palmer.
* The Grand Comics Database supports this https://www.comics.org/issue/97305/
* Tom Palmer (you know, the guy who *inked the story in question*) has some of the original art on his website with the notation "Fantastic Four #416, page 6. Marvel Comics, 1996. Breakdowns by John Buscema. Finishes by Tom Palmer." http://tompalmerillustration.com/post/145402515128/fantastic-four-416-page-6-marvel-comics-1996
* The ComicBookdb agrees http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=21234 (scroll to the "Multiple Stories in this Issue" section)
* The Unofficial Handbook of Marvel Comics Creators http://www.maelmill-insi.de/UHBMCC/fantfou.htm#S74 (scroll all the way to the very bottom)
* Mike's Amazing World of Comics http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mikes/features/story.php?storyid=117485
* The John Buscema checklist http://mike.jersey.free.fr/Buscema.htm
* ComicBook Realm https://comicbookrealm.com/series/730/9590/fantastic-four-issue-416/5
* The Complete Marvel Reading Order https://cmro.travis-starnes.com/detail.php?idvalue=14770
I hope this is sufficient documentation for the inclusion of this story as part of John Buscema's body of work
172.58.139.202 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
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message: there's no mention anywhere in this article or the bibliography about John drawing the Conan newspaper comic strip. 166.205.141.46 (talk) 10:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: okay it does mention it and it mentions when he started drawing it, but I would like to know when he finished drawing it 166.205.141.46 (talk) 10:22, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conan newspaper strip