Talk:St. Johns Bridge

message: The Oregon Department of Transportation has this history for the St. John's Bridge"
"Portland's northernmost Willamette River Bridge, the St. Johns, was finished in 1931. The bridge replaced the city's last ferry, which linked the communities of Linnton and St. Johns. The bridge is named for the community of St. Johns, which was named in honor of settler James John. Mr. John started the local ferry system with one rowboat in 1852.
 
"Designed by internationally renowned engineer David B. Steinman (1886-1960) and Holton D. Robinson, of New York, the St. Johns was the longest suspension-type bridge west of the Mississippi River at the time of construction. It is the only major highway suspension bridge in the Willamette Valley and one of only three major highway suspension bridges in Oregon.
 
The four-lane structure features lofty Gothic arch towers of steel, Gothic-inspired steel frame piers of reinforced concrete, and the longest "pre-stressed" steel cable rope strands designed up to the time of construction. Steinman also selected the color of the bridge, Verde green, which he chose to harmonize with the forest at the west end of the structure. ==Early discussion==
still needs work —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cacophony (talk • contribs) 20:14, 31 August 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: looks great to me-- lots of detail and especially like the helpful bike hints. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.214.194 (talk) 07:55, 26 March 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Hi... Most references I have seen to this bridge (I just revamped the David B. Steinman article) have it as St John's rather than St Johns. Which is correct?  I would rather not put in a redirect the wrong way, and then find out it could not be moved... thanks.
*BridgeMeister has it St John's
*Structurae.de does too...
But ODOT does not. Thoughts?
::St. Johns, Portland, Oregon is the propler spelling.  Cacophony 05:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wonder why all those sources have it wrong, then? Do you have a source for the spelling (well I guess if the city calls it that?) Thanks for the info! ++Lar 11:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure why there is no apostrophe in St. Johns.  I have seen it refered to as St. John's as well, but the local maps/signs/stores refer to it as St. Johns .  You have piqued my interest enough that I asked: cityinfo@ci.portland.or.us  Cacophony 02:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: According to "Portland Names and Neighborhoods" by Eugene E. Snyder, the neighborhood was named after James John (or Johns, depending upon the source).  This man who originally platted the townsite was also known as "Old Jimmy Johns" or "Saint Johns".  Thus, it's his last name "Johns" we are using, not a possessive term. Bryan2000 00:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: This information is included in the infobox at the right and I don't see a need to duplicate it. Cacophony 04:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Missed that! Never mind. I tend to overlook infoboxes... ++Lar 11:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: St Johns or St John's?

message: I removed the following from the Thelma Taylor story:
 The former is the general popular tale that turned Thelma Taylor into one of Portland’s most famous haunting stories.  In 2007, an investigating paranormal research group known as "The Northern Woods Paranormal Research and Investigations" (based out of the greater Portland area), uncovered facts from the 1949 murder, which exposed the truth behind the bridge haunting legend. The Northern Woods research provided documented evidence showing the exact location of Taylor’s murder, giving startling facts including the location as having been “In brush about 8 blocks North St. John’s Bridge” just over 24 hours after her kidnapping, thus contradicting with factual evidence that Leland murdered Taylor under the bridge after several days of repeatedly raping her as the story also goes.
It needs sources, and probably needs rewording. tedder (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thelma Taylor story 

message: Despite the oft-repeated story that the St John's Bridge was the prototype of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, it was not. The towers of the St. John's Bridge are Gothic and the Golden Gate Bridge are Art Deco. 
According to the Oregon Department of Transportation's website: "Designed by internationally renowned engineer David B. Steinman (1886-1960)and Holton D. Robinson, of New York, the St. Johns was the longest suspension-type bridge west of the Mississippi River at the time of construction.... Of the 400 bridges he was to design, Steinman said, 'If you asked me which of the bridges I love best, I believe I would say the St. Johns Bridge. I put more of myself into that bridge than any other bridge.' Contrary to popular belief, Steinman did not design San Francisco's famous Golden Gate Bridge."
The Golden Gate Bridge was designed by others, some of whom were from New York, as outlined at http://goldengatebridge.org/research/Design.php.
http://www.oregon.gov/odot/hwy/region1/pages/stjohns/index.aspx— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.47.236 (talk) 14:33, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the Prototype of the Golden Gate Bridge 

message: It surprised me to read that the St. Johns Bridge was the longest bridge in Oregon because I was sure (just from driving across them) that the Interstate Bridge is longer.  I read some more, and learned that determining the length of a bridge is quite complicated.  It seems that the length between spans is significantly more interesting to some than the total length, so I created this table for my own enrichment.  I doubt it has any real place in the article, but if you disagree, please add it in.
St. Johns Bridge	Interstate Bridge
Design	Suspension bridge, Gothic	Design	Dual truss with vertical lifts
Total length	2,067 ft (630 m)	Total length	3,538 ft (1,078 m)
Longest span	1,207 ft (369 m)	Longest span	531 ft (161.8 m)
ErinHowarth (talk) 17:10, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  By way of comparison 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Maybe someone who's from Portland could add a bit about how the bridge's name is related to the neighborhood it leads into? Took me way too long to find that out using external searching. — TARDIS builder✉          23:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name