Talk:List of birds of New Zealand

message: Common Name (Alternate Common Name, Another Common Name), Scientific name - occurrence status; conservation status
e.g.
** Chatham Robin (Black Robin), Petroica traversi - endemic; endangered
Occurrence status and conservation status to use a set thesarus of terms.
I'm suggesting, and experimenting, with the format above to try to get something easily-readable and consistent. See Pihoihoi to Popokotea in the article for a sample block. I'm really not sure about the colours for conservation status - seems a bit over the top - like an amateurish web page :-) Will come back for another look later. Nurg 09:38, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Format

message: It has recently been discovered that what were thought to be different species of Moa was infact their sexual dimorphism. Crusadeonilliteracy 21:30, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Moa

message: Conservation status: Readers will assume that not-labeled means "safe", but several of the unlabeled species are not (particularly Kakapo), so the overall impression is misleading as it stands.  Pm67nz 12:15, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Unlabeled conservation status

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_Life#List_of_New_Zealand_birds
This seems to contravene several principles of ToL articles
*it is alphabetical, not taxonomic
*listing is a mixture of Maori and English, this is English wikipedia, so listing should give English name with Maori alternative (or without -see history of list of Korean birds)
*many links are incorrect
Any views - I'm reluctant to run amok on this page myself since I don't know the region. jimfbleak 17:54, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I realised that just after I pressed "Save page". For "Uther", read "Jim". Tannin
* Takapu (Gannet) Sula serrator - I'll go back to this and fix
* Taranui (Caspian Tern) - I've fixed this
* Tarapiroe (Black-fronted Tern)
Richard's Pipit although linked correctly, is not shown by the name by which it is known everywhere except presumably NZ. I'm not going to make a big thing of this, it's not even my hemisphere, but I thought I should flag it up. I did think of replacing it with the ITIS listing, but the editing is too difficult for a European. Jim
OK Jim. I started sorting the list. I've left it in worse state than it was when I started, but I think I've made enough of a start that if we chip away at it, we can finish the job before too long. BTW, in working on it, I started to see more examles of the things that you were taking about above. I fixed a few of them, lots more to go. Cheers, Tannin 11:02, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 2004 copy of discussion from Tree of Life wikiproject 

message: The following text was amended in the article as the count of 49 species does not (now) match the list. Perhaps subspecies were counted too?
"The 49 species marked extinct became extinct subsequent to humans' arrival in New Zealand. Of these, 34 extinctions occurred after the arrival of Maori but before the arrival of Pakeha with 15 further extinctions since." Nurg 05:42, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of extinct species

message: There seem to be quite a few omissions here - should there be some mention that the list is incomplete? For example the blackbird, kingfisher and rock pigeon (in some urban areas) are not mentioned here. Richard001 11:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggest you just add them, and that comment. Also, the Spotted Dove is another I can think of. Kahuroa 19:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a number of ommissions - diving petrels and storm petrels. I am working on a new version of this page here. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 02:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the list is very incomplete! Look at Checklist of the Birds of New Zealand (2010) --Esculapio (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Incomplete?

message: This was removed from New Zealand birds before I merged other info into Birds of New Zealand.
;Native non endemic birds==
* Australasian Harrier
* Morepork (Ruru)
;Introduced birds==
*European Starling
*Blackbird
*Song Thrush
*Skylark
*Indian Mynah
*House Sparrow
*Hedge Sparrow (Dunnock)
*European Goldfinch
*Chaffinch
*European Greenfinch
*Common Redpoll
*Yellowhammer
*Cirl Bunting
*Rock Pigeon
*Chukar
*California Quail
*Brown Quail
*Red-legged Partridge
*Grey Partridge
*Indian Peafowl
*Helmeted Guineafowl
*Mallard
*Black Swan
*Mute Swan
*Canada Goose
*Ringnecked Pheasant
*Wild Turkey
*Rook
*Australian Magpie
*Eastern Rosella
*Crimson Rosella
*Rainbow Lorikeet
*Little Owl
*Kookaburra
*Cockatoo
;Colonising birds==
* Masked Lapwing, known locally as the Spur-winged Plover
* Purple Swamphen, known locally as the Pūkeko
* Welcome swallow
;Extinct birds==
*Adzebill
*Auckland Islands Merganser
*Haast's Eagle
*Huia
*Laughing Owl (Whekau)
*Moa
*New Zealand pelican
*New Zealand Little Bittern
*New Zealand Quail (Koreke)
*New Zealand Bush Wren (Matuhi)
*New Zealand Swan
*North Island Goose
*Piopio
*South Island Goose
*South Island kokako
*Stephen's Island Wren
(end of pasted text).Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List that may be useful 

message: I cannot find any (Google) reference to wild Golden Eagles (Falconidae) in NZ, and I feel fairly sure I would have heard of them, but the absence of evidence doesn't necessarily negate the inclusion. Could someone with more knowledge (or a braver heart) confirm or deny the claim? L-Bit (talk) 07:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not an expert, but they're not included in my "Reader's Digest Complete Book of New Zealand Birds", 1985 . It was added to this article on 8 August 2011 by an anon, who also added it to List of birds of Australia, New Zealand and Antarctica. I'm inclined to remove it from both articles as test edits.-gadfium 22:04, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

text: In the absence of any other input, I've removed this species from both articles.-gadfium 03:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Eagle 

message: How are the genera ordered (or how should they be ordered) within each family? They don't seem to be following (at least not always) "The eBird/Clements checklist of birds of the world: v2016". Nurg (talk) 05:25, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Families are ordered by Clements, except for the extinct ones they do not recognize, which are placed as best as I can guess as they relate to other families.....Pvmoutside (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of genera within each family 

message: What does "P" in the key stand for? Is it "Passage"? Nurg (talk) 09:59, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "P" in the key 

message: I just made these edits mostly to get rid of some unnecessary boldfaced text as described at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Country lists#use of bold. This list had some names emboldened and I wasn't sure why. For instance Pacific long-tailed cuckoo, Urodynamis taitensis, was in bold. I removed the bolding for that and others. If there was a reason for the boldface text that I did not understand, please let me know and I'll fix my error and add an explanation. Thank you, SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purpose of some boldfaced text?