Wikipedia talk:Cleanup/Archive 7

message: Where do I complain about improper redirects, or find a proper template to put on them? Specifically I'm concerned about influence, which is an improper redirect/page move/rewrite if I ever saw one. Looking at the page history I can't even tell what the hell happened... a bit of help, please? Sam Spade 15:48, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're concerned that Wikipedia's article on influence has been hijacked to hype a book. But the article was always about the book. Perhaps Wikipedia should have an article about the word influence, or at least a disambiguation linking to all the kinds of influence a user might have in mind when he enters that word. But I didn't find any such article. So the word influence might as well redirect to the book until we have something to disambiguate. Art LaPella 21:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improper redirects 

message: Can it be shortened somewhat please again.
:Please sign your messages. Thank you! --Siva1979Talk to me 19:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Length of list

message: There appear to be a great many articles listed for clean up that have been tidied up, had their tags removed but they have  not been taken off the list.  This is one reason why the list of articles is so dauntingly long.   I have just done a quick survey or articles listed for two or more months.  The articles with the cleanup tag removed or those which, in my subjective judgement, had nothing wrong with them had received an average of 14.2 edits (n=20 so it is not a big sample).  Those articles which apparantly still needed attention had received an average of 6.5 edits, (n=23).
So I am suggesting that the proposed robot should look at articles when they have been listed for two months and remove from the list all those that have received 12 or more edits.
This is not a perfect tool but it will make the lists more manageable.  There will be some articles that even after 12 edits do not merit removal however they will presumably find their way back onto the the lists.  Others that merit removal will fall under the threshhold; but then they are part of the problem we already have.
Eagle tells me that this can be done as part of the bot he is designing.   Comments please.
ping 08:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A problem

message: Nice thinking, that can be done after Gnome bot does what is in the list. Based on a sample of 101 articles, what I am programming now will remove 48% of the articles from the cleanup back log. 
That will make the backlog one-half the size it is now
Have a look at the link below to see the bot's test output yourself. (the bot did not make any edits, it only put to a list what it saw, and what it would do, if it were editing).
User:Gnome (Bot)/Testing/1----This is the list, read the top and mentioned links for better understanding
Eagle (talk) (desk) 00:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nice thinking, and update to Gnome bots operational status

message: click here to see approval Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals#User:Gnome (Bot) requesting trial run and evential bot flag
As the title says. The bot still and always will be open to new functions and changes in existing functions
The bots current criteria is in this link
All above posted by Eagle (talk) (desk) 19:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gnome Bot is approved for one week trial run!!! 

message: Howdy!  I've dony copy-editing and stuff for a while on Wikipedia but am only getting iinto the system now.  I'm going to go through the cleanup and merge archives, though for now I'm not going to mess around with anything that has pictures because I odn't get that yet.  If comeone can please answer the following questions, I'd greatly appreciate it and it would make me much more helpful:
*When an article is tagged for cleanup or merge, does it automatically go to that list or does it need to be added?
*When it is de-tagged, does it automatically go away or does it need to be removed?
*Do all cleanups (e.g. copy-edit, add picture, NPOV, Wikify) go to the Cleanup page or is that only for general cleanup?
Thanks a lot! Avraham 06:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help the Newbie So He Will Help You

message: At a glance, there appears to be a large number of struck-out entries on the main cleanup page.  Is there some protocol for removing these presumably fixed articles?  I don't want to go in there and wipe them out if they're being kept for some reason. But on the other hand, it seems that it would make the page more user-friendly, and also highlight the articles that still need fixing. -- Woden325 17:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Striking-out instead of deleting is a fad that started about February.  As it says at Wikipedia:Cleanup process#How can I help maintain the page?, "Remove listings reported as fixed".  So go ahead and cleanup after the cleanuppers. -R. S. Shaw 19:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up the Cleanup page 

message: Cleanup sorted by topic has been requested before.  We are in the process of implementing it now on WP:PNA.  -- Beland 05:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't there be a category system? That page is quite confusing and there are still articles on the lists that haven't been tagged for cleanup in years. What about tagging things  or ((popculture-cleanup}}, for example, so that people can easily find a category and clean up the areas they're interested in? --The Famous Movie Director 01:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There could be a tag-based category system, but it looks like that would require all editors to change their behavior to use the new tags.  The new cleanup sorting mechanism is mostly working now, with no change in general editing behavior. A robot is doing the heavy lifting.  For an example, you could have a look at the new Chemistry subpage of Pages needing attention to see what the new format is like. -R. S. Shaw 23:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorted cleanup

message: The stub sorting pages have a standard edit summary they use to help recruit personnel. I was thinking we could do something similar and hoepfully get some people to clear out the backlog. I'm already using  Cleanup. Grab a broom!. --Kerowyn 09:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: I'm trying to remove some tagged articles from the archives, and I've found that a lot of stubs also have cleanup tags, even though they're decently written if short. If the stub has no grammatical errors, and is only in need of expansion, can I remove the cleanup tag? Or is there something else I could do? (Perhaps an  tag?) Thanks! Tamarkot 01:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to just remove the cleanup tag if the stub itself seems reasonable. You can use  but I think some variety of stub template is more useful. --Cherry blossom tree 18:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stubs 

message: There are a number of pages on the cleanup list that link to articles without a cleanup tag, but whose problems have clearly not been fixed. Does the cleanup tag automatically disappear after a while or does this mean someone has removed it? If so, can I stick it back on or does the page have to be resubmitted? For example, see Attachment disorder - no cleanup tag but original criticism still valid of not being encyclopaedic, (I note there seems to be a bit of an edit war going on)... but in situations like this should the tag be replaced? Berry 19:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The tag is not automatically added when it is listed on Wikipedia:Cleanup; it may be that the articles you have found were never tagged in the first place.  They do not disappear automatically, either; sometimes people do remove them inappropriately.  Feel free to tag or re-tag as you see fit.  A note on the talk page about exactly what needs to be fixed might be helpful.  Sometimes the cleanup tag is removed by someone who doesn't notice a certain problem that someone else does. -- Beland 01:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tags 

message: There seem to be problems at the moment (1630 BST and after) in accessing a number of pages - eg Expand, the main Community talk page etc - or I would have posted this comment there. Can someone check that this is not a temporary glitch please. Jackiespeel 16:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links to various pages

message: Please, I'm not a frequent editor of the en.wiki and I'd like to get some help to clean this article: Itaqui. It's totally out standarts, with text in Portuguesa at the end. Please, any help is welcome. --Dantadd 19:00, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Itaqui]] 

message: The first External Link (bottom of the article) for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army goes to a page in China with a Trojan which triggered a McAfee removal.  Those without virus protection are at risk at this link.  The link is labelled "Official Site."
*Link removed by Daduzi at 15:52, 19 June. -R. S. Shaw 20:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trojan in Terracotta Warriors "Official Site" link 

message: At WikiProject comics we are thinking of creating a cleanup tag for comics articles so as to categorise them.  I appreciate that most cleanup tags are written for reasons to cleanup rather than article content, so I thought I'd check if it was okay or if anyone had a better suggestion? Hiding Talk 08:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My thinking is that it would sort of be like the specific stub tags, which we have been able to use to focus and expand upon. These would allow our WikiProject to likewise work with these articles that many have problems specific to the content, which WikiProject Comics editors may be more apt to handle, for instance, citation of comic book issues. --Chris Griswold 13:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

text: There's a project to automatically list by subject pages needing cleanup, wikification, etc.  It's only partly complete (Comics not yet covered.) See Wikipedia:Pages needing attention and Wikipedia:Cleanup process/Cleanup sorting proposal. -R. S. Shaw 21:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comics clean up tag

message: I've proposed a music-specific cleanup-like tag at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD. Tuf-Kat 21:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music clean up tag

message: What is the difference between wikify and cleanup? Can someone provide examples of when to slap wikify on a article versus cleanup and the other way around? Whispering 19:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Glossary#Wikify and Wikipedia:Glossary#Cleanup. -R. S. Shaw 21:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see says the blind man so if I see a new article that needs Wikifying and grammar help I should add them both then? Whispering(talk/c) 00:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small question 

message: How is this page related to the Cleanup tag template? Do articles tagged with the Cleanup template or the Cleanup:Date template get added here automatically, or are these projects somewhat in parallel? cluth 18:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tagged articles get added to :Category:Wikipedia cleanup, or one of the monthly subcategories of :Category:Cleanup by month.  Items here are added and removed manually, unfortunately.  Personally, I encourage people to use tags instead, and put comments on talk pages.  There are many older listings piling up on this page which have either been fixed already or won't be fixed any time soon; those can just be tagged and comments moved to talk pages. -- Beland 10:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:Cleanup vs. Template:Cleanup 

message: After seeing a comment by another not-logged-in user on the Pokémon Center article discussion page, I think we should have a tag exclusively for articles which repeat themselves, since quite a few of the articles I fall into and coincidentially turn out to have the "cleanup" tag aren't messy, just repetitive. What do you people think? 200.44.7.235 22:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundance tag? 

message: Once I get an article should I remove it from the page or just note and stike it out? · XP · 00:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Remove it.  (Strikeout just leaves it to someone else to remove it.) -R. S. Shaw 03:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ok. · XP · 06:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleaning... 

message: Please see User:Brad101/redundancy for things that have been on my mind lately. Use the talk page there for comments about changes etc. Thanks --Brad101 14:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project redundancy 

message: I have categorized this page finally. If anyone has any objections to which category this page belongs to, please inform me about this. --Siva1979Talk to me 20:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category 

message: Would a running three months do (and/or reassigning to other Wiki requests for help pages if possible - some of us are time limited)
*I've just removed close to 20 pages from May's listing, which had already been cleaned-up, but were still listed here.  Of those pages that still need clean-up, many require specialist knowledge of the subject and so I'd also suggest they be re-assigned to more specific Wiki-request pages where possible.   82.36.124.145 02:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page length

message: Surely this should link to things older than six months - so some of us with "nothing better to do" can see if we can resolve anything.
:Well, this goes back to August 2005 now, so... -- Beland 03:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Oldest listings"

message: Well meaning editors just add the cleanup tag to pages without explaining its addition. There should be a guideline on this page, Wikipedia:Cleanup process, and any other related pages stating that when you add the cleanup tag (esp. generic ), you should post your reason for its addition on the talk page. Imagine if an editor with ridiculously high standards came along and started tagging every page that needs cleanup (which if you want to be technical is everything that's not a featured article). – flamurai (t) 03:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added. -- Beland 03:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Featured articles can come to be in need of cleanup at any time. Cloachland 03:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guideline for use of cleanup tag needed 

message: This is a template that is supposed to insert  with the current date.  Cool idea.  However, the wikicode doesn't work right, as can be seen on any page that uses it.  Is there anyone here who knows how to fix this?  Do you have opinions on whether this template should exist?  --Alynna 01:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|cleanup-now}} 

message: Silly vandalism or valid question? (Anyone wish to set up WikiVandalopedia to banish such people to?) Jackiespeel 15:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Top entry Dec 13

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 19:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards