Talk:Las Vegas/Archive 1

message: I don't know the correct numbers... but: In the "City redevelopment" section, 3rd to last paragraph says "8 buildings, with 7.5 MILLION Sq. Ft. of space" - but the last paragraph says "...soon to have...  2 MILLION Sq. Ft."  Note: The formats (even though difficult to read) are inline with reguards to WP:Manual of Style. Guy M (Talk) 01:51, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
:Clarification: The wikicode is difficult to read, but the rendered page is inline with the WP:Style Guide. Guy M (Talk) 01:57, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
::Typo the new number is 12 million from the web site.  It was fixed.  Thanks Vegaswikian 02:03, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction needed 

message: As you may (or may not) know, May 15, 2005 is it's 100th anniversary. That is about 2½ months away from now. I was hoping to see if there's any interest in making sure the article is up to the higher standard for being a Wikipedia Featured Article specifically on it's anniversary.
I'm not great at authoring, average in editing, and require a spell checker. But I am willing to put forth a significant effort in research, verify and document all references and sources of statements. Why would I be a good candidate?
#Resident of Las Vegas since May 1995.
#Former fulltime taxicab driver (unrestricted) (1995-2002)
#Currently, free time is all I have.
#I live one block (about .25 mile) from Las Vegas Blvd. and Tropicana Ave.
#*Home of MGM, New York-New York, Tropicana and Excalibur.
So what do you think?  Any volunteers for styling/editing?
Guy M (talk) 05:04, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
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:::I will help.  I can even add some material and pictures as I vacation in Las Vegas frequently. However having the help of an actual resident would be very helpful.  I look forward to getting this featured. Apollomelos 23:34, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No it isn't necessary and is prone to get out of date fast so I removed it. --mav
There is a link to a personal web page that is essentially just a journal of someone's trip. Doesn't seem link-worthy to me, as the items covered in that site are well covered by the other links listed. Is that really necessary?
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http://www.tutorgig.com/encyclopedia/getdefn.jsp?keywords=Las_Vegas,_Nevada
this seems to be a mirror of wikipedia.
is this allowed?
 Xah P0lyglut 04:04, 2003 Dec 19 (UTC)
It says "Source: Wikipedia | The above article is available under the GNU FDL".  This is acceptable usage.  RickK 05:03, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

text: Your creation of the separate article on Oscar Goodman was a very good idea (it's been on my list for a while but I never got to it).  I think it's most appropriate that this article have only the Wiki link to your article on Goodman.  This follows the policy of "Don't use external links where we'll want Wikipedia links."  The reader who wants more information on Goodman should first be directed to our own article on Goodman (now that we have a fine one, thanks to you).  In the Goodman article, I have no problem with listing his site as an external link.  I made other changes there but left this link alone.  There's no reason to repeat the link here, though, because it has no information about Las Vegas other than the information about Goodman. JamesMLane 09:13, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

text: How about we do this... I will change all of the links current links for the Mayor and Council to Wiki Links and then put under External Links the list of their official website. Misterrick 19:40, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

text: Having external links embedded in text, as they are now, instead of in the "External links" section, seems to me to be against Wikipedia policy.  I'm not keen on listing them at the end, though.  This article already has too many external links.  (The article on New York City has only ten, four of which are just to convey photographs.)  Furthermore, all of these individuals' official sites are merely pages within the City's website, which is already the first external link listed.  A reader who goes to the City's site selects "Elected Officials" then "Council" then the ward, and reaches the page -- not very tricky.  I think it makes more sense to do it this way: Make Goodman a Wiki link; don't bother Wiki linking each Councilmember, because odds are there will never be an article; delete all links to individual pages within the City's website; and insert a sentence, before or after the listing of Councilmembers, along the lines of: Each member of the Council has an individual page within the City's website (see "External links," below).  JamesMLane 21:54, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly Main Page Feature Article for May 15? 

message: Would anyone have a problem if I made Wiki links on the names of the Las Vegas City Council members? As of right now the only person who has a Wiki link to a Wikipedia article is Mayor Oscar Goodman who is also an At-Large member of the City Council. I figure if I create Wiki links someone would be inspired to actually create an article about that Councilmember which is why were here right to propogate Wikipedia with vast information. Misterrick 03:43, 31 December 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: City council members are pushing the envelope of "notability", but it's OK with me. Stan 01:37, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Links 

message: An anon editor changed the population figures.  The previous figure for the 2000 census -- 478,434 -- is correct according to the Census Bureau's website, so I changed it back.  The other change was to replace the 2002 estimate with a 2003 estimate.  I find a different number on the Census Bureau site; the difference may be that the Census Bureau and the city have different estimates, but to preserve comparability, I'm replacing the "city's official estimate" with that of the Census Bureau. JamesMLane 09:25, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Why do we have a smog over the valley from autos picture in the transportation section and no mention of autos in the text?  Is that a good picture to use for painting a positive picture of the area?Vegaswikian 07:15, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view requires that we not paint either a positive or negative picture - we're just painting. Pictures can be striking and/or beautiful, as  long as they're faithful to reality. Stan 17:34, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And you can change which picture of reality you use; or, alternately, insert some info about air quality in the Vegas Valley -- which, I understand, is now more endangered by dust than by vehicle emissions. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 17:51, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Transportation Picture 

message: Hi! I just contributed a few lines to the two dollar bill page, which is, unfortunately, only speculation. I've never been to Vegas, so I don't know how accurate the info is, and I wonder if anyone here might know. (The question is whether or not "gentlemen's clubs" tend to give out two dollar bills as change) If you do know one way or the other, feel free to make the appropriate changes. Thanks!! Randyoo 00:24, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Dollar Bills? 

message: Is this something that would be better on the Vegas Valley page with a link and reference left here?  This is stuff that will grow as more items are added.  That would make this page rather large and harder to follow.  Or is there a another place that would be better for this data? Vegaswikian 08:06, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture & Attractions 

message: I was looking at other city pages and they often have the airport in a seperate section using transportation only for auto, bus and train.  Should we do something similar or leave things as they are? Vegaswikian 23:44, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transportation Section 

message: I thought we lost Amtrak service about 3 years ago.  Anyone know for sure? Vegaswikian 02:44, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amtrak 

message: I agree that it's confusing for "Notable natives" to include people born elsewhere, but it seems useful to have a list of links to articles about people who've been important in the development of the area.  (Some of the "immigrants" are linked in the body of the article, like Oscar Goodman, but others aren't.)  What we did in the Worcester, Massachusetts article was to use the heading "Notable people", with subheadings for "Born in Worcester" and "Other residents".  I suggest we do the same here.  An article about Vegas should really include links to articles like Steve Wynn (developer) and Liberace, as long as they're not incorrectly called "natives". JamesMLane 07:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it.  I envision only a list of links, with no more than extremely terse descriptions ("entertainer" and the like).  It should be OK unless people start trying to cram in more information about the named notables.  We should bear in mind that anyone who wants to read more about Liberace can just click on the link.  If need be, though, you're right that we could spin it off, as was done with List of famous New Yorkers. JamesMLane 07:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll create this with the data from the old entries.  Entries with links that work probably should have only a 1 or 2 word comment.  Other entries should have a bit more. Vegaswikian 18:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  People 

message: Does it make sense to move the text starting with When The Mirage opened in 1989 to redevelopment?  It seems to fit in there better since it was a major driver for the redevelopment effort.  Somehow it does not seem like it belongs in history but I'm not sure that it is redevelopment either. Vegaswikian 20:01, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move a block of text from history to redevelopment? 

message: The old smog picture seems to be missing.  Anyone have a suggestion to replace it in transportation? Vegaswikian 18:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing picture 

message: Shound this section be merged with List of Las Vegans adding the notable residents to that list? Vegaswikian 05:16, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Dr. Cash 16:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  People 

message: Under Demographics, I added the City of Las Vegas Population by year history from 1930 thru 2000. JeffreyAllen1975 05:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: She's the neon fig @ a casino, & got her name from locals. Except, which casino? Anybody know?  Trekphiler 03:50, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sassy Sally 

message: I don't believe that LV is the fastest growing city in Nevada.  I think Mesquite and NLV are growing faster. Anyone know for sure? Vegaswikian 23:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  fastest growing city? 

message: Will someone please edit the "stupidhistory" section to remove the vandalism? I've gone back several versions of the article and recent edits don't even seem to have noticed it.
*I think I fixed this from an early version. Can someone check my work?  Vegaswikian 01:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stupid History 

message: For anyone who is interested in some of the many large high rise and other developments in Vegas, There are a couple of updated sites providing pretty accurate information. And they have links to their sources of information. I dont know exactly how this kind of information could be interlinked with this page because they are pretty fluid developments.. And where do you draw the line between facts about vegas' growth, and speculation. Anyone from Vegas can appreciate the rapid changes that occur there. 
http://www.skyscraperpage.com 
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com
On a side note, Why people insist on placing garbage on the page, random sentences, and perverse language I will never know.  I am glad that people have taken the initiative to maintain this page.. Props to all of you for keeping the page clean.
:That's what vandels do.  Vegaswikian 05:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegas Growth and Development 

message: I'm probably going to pull this section. If it goes back in, it should be after some discussion here. The current text seems to be very WP:POV and not really an encylopedic overview of the defined neighborhoods. Also including Summerlin, which already has an article, as a neighborhood does not seem correct. Vegaswikian 18:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no discussion or objection, I'm going to delete the Neighborhoods section. Vegaswikian 22:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think four days is enough to make that decision. I'd like to see that section return. MojaveNC 01:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be nice to have such a section, but that certainly wasn't it. Unsourced facts, POV, etc. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neighborhoods 

message: I inserted this information (a precis of the report cited) into this entry on the grounds that there should be at least _some_ statistics on the gambling revenues in the entry most people looking for such info would come to first: the Las Vegas entry. Robma 16:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And that data is, I believe, county wide and not specific to Las Vegas. The city article is suppose to be about the city and the area information is in the Las Vegas metropolitan area article. Also it is reported by the LVCVA so including it there seems to make more sense. A reference to the data would be better in the Las Vegas metropolitan area aticle with a link to the LVCVA and the data so it only needs to be maintained in a single place. Vegaswikian 20:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. I've added a sentence linking directly to all the LVCVA reports in the entry (I'd no idea so much useful LV material was held there).Robma 07:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economic information 

message: Anyone know if these are corect? Seems off for that type of a change to correct something. Vegaswikian 18:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  land size changes by 67.172.95.197 

message: --If most of of the Las Vegas Strip is actually outside the city limits, then is it really accurate to have pictures of it in this article? Perhaps they belong in the Las Vegas metro area article instead. --Jleon 14:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I live in Las Vegas as defined legaaly, far from the strip. Still, when I think of Las Vegas, the first thing I thin of is the casions and the Strip. It should deserve a good part in this article; even the local news refers to the strip as being in Las Vegas (city). 69.69.88.85 06:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I've heard local radio news mentions of "Las Vegas companies" when giving updates on casino stocks. VisitorTalk 07:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The night picture of the Strip is a beautiful representation of the city's international reputation.  (By the way, there should be a mention of the statistic of 30+ million visitors a year, making the city the most popular tourist destination of the U.S.  I don't have the statistic's source in front of me, but it should be easy to find.)  I recommend leaving that picture at the top of the sidebar, but add a caption: "Lights of resorts along the famous Las Vegas Strip - most of which is actually outside the city limits."  What do people think of this wording?  Also, for the Strip sign photo by Mandalay Bay, I'd like to change the caption to "Las Vegas sign at the south end of the Strip - miles south of the actual city limits."  I think the sign picture should be relocated to the Economic History section, since welcoming visitors to the Strip is the foundation of the local economic history after Hoover Dam's completion.  For the picture box next to the Founding section, a picture of the Springs Preserve would be very appropriate. VisitorTalk 14:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry User:VisitorTalk I really have to disagree with you and anyone else that feels the picture in the InfoBox is appropriate because in my opinion it is not and should be replaced with something that truly represents the city, Not to do so is very disrespectful to the people who live, work and breath the City of Las Vegas. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 03:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pics of the Strip? 

message: The article lists the MGM files as the worst disaster in Nevada history. Perhaps this was the greatest loss of life in an event, but I believe the PEPCON explosion had a far greater impact on the area as whole. Perhaps this belongs instead under Metro area, but I think most "natives" who have lived in the area since the 80s can better recall the vast area of damage. Brianckeegan 18:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I realized that it said Nevada instead of Las Vegas. I changed the OP accordingly. MGM fire certainly could not have been the worst disaster in state history as mine collapses, native american displacement, and nuclear testing all occupy prominent places in Nevada history.Brianckeegan 18:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I lived in Vegas for both the MGM fire and Pepcon, and the fire seemed far worse to me. But that's why we need to avoid general phrases like "Worst Disaster". Maybe "Greatest Loss of Life" would be appropriate. 74.75.0.106 00:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: How about simply having a section labeled "Major disasters"? VisitorTalk 07:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: This should be in its own section, as it doesn't relate to LV disasters. VisitorTalk 07:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worst disaster in Nevada history? 

message: I think there needs to be some consensus on what this article should contain.
Las Vegas, as I see it, has four definitions:
1) The City of Las Vegas, a municipal area in central Clark County.
2) The tourist destination Las Vegas, mostly centered around the Las Vegas Strip.
3) Las Vegas, the city, encompassing areas of unincorporated Clark County where people believe they live in Las Vegas but in fact do not live within the technical city.
4) Greater Las Vegas, inc. Henderson, North Las Vegas, and maybe even bedroom communities (Pahrump, Moapa Valley, Coyote Springs, etc.)
If we're going to take a hard line and say, look, nothing in this article should explain the way things work for the county, then we should also remove the Strip explanations and split this article into three topics, and start the Las Vegas search out at a disambiguation page. If you're going to talk about the Strip in the "Las Vegas" article, I think you have to talk about Las Vegas as an entity that includes both the city and urban unicorporated county.
Generally, this would be a no-brainer... county government gets its own article and that's that. But I think there's so much confusion, so much potential for misunderstanding as well as a base fact that 750,000 folks live in the unicorporated part of the Las Vegas Valley but still thinking they live in Las Vegas (not Henderson or Spring Valley or Paradise or anything else) that that should either be folded into this one or the article should be split in four or more.
:We should include this in the article--Googleplex5 22:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, but I would do some minor rewrites.  Point two, add another clause so it reads: "... the Las Vegas Strip, most of which is actually outside the city limits."  Point 3: change "...where people believe they live" to "where people may say they reside, work or shop in Las Vegas but actually are located outside the city limits." VisitorTalk 23:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defining the Las Vegas article 

message: Should ArenaBowl be considered a "major event"?
*I think it should be. --Dr. Pizza 03:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ArenaBowl 

message: I would like if someone could put an article explaining the origin of this so called 'rule", and so as the one involving why many tourists use fake names in Vegas. This would be interesting. Falconleaf
*Do you really think many tourists use fake names in Vegas? I guess the ones that drive here and use only cash could pull it off...kinda hard to fly or use credit cards legally with fake name. (And heaven help you if you win a decent jackpot; they card the hell out of you nowadays.) Am I just naive? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 00:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whatever stays in Vegas, Stays in Vegas/Vegas fake names 

message: I rescaled the image to a size where it should cover up to 95% of the width of the writing section of a 4:3 screen. The images has not been uploaded by me and I do not want to promote the work (lol). 
In case the thumb looks too blurry, feel free and replace it or take it off the article. I just think that as long as there is a picture in the article it needs to have a good size where you are able to see what it tries to illustrate. Or else it is worthless. -- Boereck 14:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image in the Transportation Section 

message: There's a section on the city called "Culture", when it's just about Sport. Even aside from very personal opinions about the wide gulf between Culture and Sport, why isn't this section just called "Sport"? iPhil 00:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture? 

message: I am considering starting a Las Vegas casino history article. Right now I belive there is more then enought information scattered around to put together a nice article. The scope would be all of Clark County. I'll probably do this soon unless someone points out a good reason not to do this. Filling in this type of history could uncover other articles that need writing. Vegaswikian 18:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casino history 

message: Such a major and huge article needs some serious referencing (close to 20-30 of them) rather than a mere 6 Steroid Expert 06:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced facts 

message: In certain occasions, I heard on US radio and TV that the newscasters pronounce Los Vegas, like in Los Angeles. I have heard it so many times that I can no longer refrain from asking what is going on. Since I don't know Spanish, I am guessing two possible explanations. 1. The newscasters are just as ignorant about Spanish as I am and simply mispronouce it repeatedly. 2. Los and Las are pronounced the same way in Spanish, though they sound different when read as English. I am thinking in the same way as the French Le vs. Les, they spelled differently but they are pronounced the same way. Is Spanish done the same way as French? Curious mind needs to know. Thanks in advance. Kowloonese 10:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, 'los' and 'las' are pronunciated as they are. The TV newscasters are making a mistake in such a way that you are right with your #1 hipotesis. I'm Mexican living in Mexico City so i'm 100% sure. --189.135.69.148 02:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Pronouciation? 

message: There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada. 
:This proposal would allow for this article to be located at Las Vegas instead of Las Vegas, Nevada, bringing articles for American cities into line with articles for cities such as Paris and Toronto.--DaveOinSF 16:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't jump to conclusions. A new convention might allow Las Vegas to redirect to Las Vegas Strip or Las Vegas metropolitan area as primary or most common usage.  Vegaswikian 00:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That has nothing to do with this proposal. For cities with a name that is unique and where the name of the city clearly means that city above all other uses of the word, it would allow that city to use its name as the title for the article.  Currently, Las Vegas redirects to Las Vegas, Nevada, which means that Wikipedians have already decided that the city of Las Vegas in Nevada is the most important use of the word Las Vegas. If you disagree with the way the redirect currently functions, then you should take it to Talk:Las Vegas and propose that Las Vegas redirect to something else.--DaveOinSF 02:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: However the proposal would allow U.S. cities to be inconsistent with the vast majority of other U.S. cities and towns, which (with a few exceptions) all use the "city, state" convention. -Will Beback 23:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey on proposal to make U.S. city naming guidelines consistent with others countries 

message: How is Zappos a technology company?  It's a shoe store. -THB 04:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technology companies 

message: This article is in desperate need of pictures of Las Vegas at night. I believe that only daylight pictures will not suffice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.156.165.57 (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: I'm troubled by the amount of editing this page undergoes due to WUI (Wiki-ing Under the Influence) and vandalism. Sadly I don't know where else to lodge a plea for protecting this article. I find this doubly necessary when this article is a candidate for Release. Help me out? MrWarMage 16:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article does not appear to have experienced an unusual amount of vandalism. Most of the recent bad edits appear to have come from one IP, which can be blocked if necessary. I'm not sure what is meant by "Release". -Will Beback · † · 00:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

text: In fact, I see the recent IP vanadal has been blocked for six months.. -Will Beback · † · 00:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By release I mean that it's been chosen to go into a version. On the other side, what then denotes "unusual" vandalism? I'm a bit unsuccessful searching out those criteria, and I don't want to be crying wolf. MrWarMage 15:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection Status Request 

message: Right now, Las Vegas redirects to Las Vegas, Nevada. However if you look at the links to Las Vegas, they are all over the board with the majority not being about the city. While difficult to judge, I'd say the biggest group point to strip hotels or activities. I'd like to discuss changing where the redirect goes. The other options appear to be Las Vegas metropolitan area, Las Vegas Strip and Clark County, Nevada. I'm leaning towards Las Vegas metropolitan area since that seems to cover both the city and the area for most of the inbound links.  Several discussion over naming conventions seem to support that Vegas is rather different and that pointing to the city might not be the best choice since Vegas is not used to describe the city in many uses. Vegaswikian 20:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there were no objections raised, I'm going to change the redirect to Las Vegas metropolitan area. Thanks. Vegaswikian 00:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Just spotted this discussion. Anyway, I concur with your decision.  --Coolcaesar 08:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I disagree strongly, it confused me when I first saw it so I'm guessing it confused a lot of other people too. I'd change it back if there weren't a concurrence, but now there's a challenge, so let's discuss. --Golbez 22:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the inbound links, most of them are not about the city. They are about the strip or hotels not in the city.  To much of the world, Vegas is a generic area that is southern Nevada. They don't relate it as being the same as the city. Or they consider the city to be all of southern Nevada.  Vegaswikian 01:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then maybe the links should be changed. We tend to go by the 'policy of least surprise' here, and if I put in "Chicago" and was redirected to "Chicagoland," I'd be pretty surprised, just as I was in this case. --Golbez 08:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the links also need to be changed to point to the correct article.  Try fixing a few and you will see that most of them are not about the city. So by pointing to the city article by default, we are sending the vast majority of readers to the wrong article. That too is a surprise. I update a few whenever I have the time.  Vegaswikian 08:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles can link to the correct article. Users, however, don't know this, so when they TYPE IN "Las Vegas", they will be sent to what I would say is the wrong article. We need to consider them more than redirects used in articles, as those can be fixed. I suggest we change the redirect now and fix the articles later. --Golbez 12:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When someone enters Las Vegas, they are mostly not interested in the city. They want the Las Vegas Strip or the area around it. So the link should be to one of those two. This is clearly supported by looking at the current links.  They are simply not for the city but for the metro area or the strip.  Vegaswikian 21:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When someone enters New York City, do they mean the city, or do they mean Manhattan, which is what the Post Office calls New York? Or should we not make that decision for them, and just go with the standard used for 30,000+ other cities and towns? I'm a little shocked you suggested "Las Vegas" should redirect to "Las Vegas Strip" before redirecting to "Las Vegas, Nevada" - that would indeed be exactly akin to redirecting "New York City" to "Manhattan". --Golbez 23:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the articles that redirect there. You will see that most are not about the city, so the city is just wrong.  The Strip or the metropolitan area is what most of the links are for and not the city.  Vegaswikian 23:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, this isn't about articles. Articles can be changed. This is about the user. When i typed "Las Vegas," I expected, like 30,000 other cities, to be taken to the article about the city. --Golbez 23:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just saw what happened since my last look at this talk page.  Both of you have good arguments, so I don't really know which side I'm on at this point.  Can another editor please add their two bits?  --Coolcaesar 05:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Vegaswikian, did you even think about the redirect situation? I spend a lot of time fixing links to cities, and I know I have fixed several articles in the past that were talking about the city but just linked to "Las Vegas" instead of "Las Vegas, Nevada". I can't speak for others, but I would be looking for the city if I typed in Las Vegas. TJ Spyke 14:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So would I, and I'm going to be bold. If others really disagree, then feel free to revert and I'll take it to RfD. --Golbez 09:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought this was over so I did not keep the paper. But about two weeks ago, the Review-Journal had a chart showing that Las Vegas had the biggest gaming market compared to to other places like Atlantic City and Indian Casinos.  While the headline screamed that Las Vegas was the largest, the caption for the largest market was The Strip.  So again, another case where assuming that Las Vegas means the city is wrong.  Maybe in this case the best place for the redirect is to the dab page and have the editors cleanup the mess that is out there, but redirecting to the wrong place the vast majority of the time is simply against the guidelines.  Vegaswikian 19:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Las Vegas is a dab page.  Vegaswikian 08:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Las Vegas redirect 

message: Minor vandalism stayed in place for 16 minutes. I only noticed it because I was looking at recent changes and since I live in Las Vegas, the edit caught my eye. --Frank Lofaro Jr. 20:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs watching 

message: Just a note that the article on Young Electric Sign Company was deleted and I have asked for a deletion review. If anyone wishes to comment on this, the discussion is at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 5. Vegaswikian 23:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Young Electric Sign Company 

message: I didn't find this information in the article, and as I'm not from Vegas (not even USA), I'd like to know, is it true that when you marry in Las Vegas you're only married there? --Midasminus 12:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage 

message: Does anyone know of a good source for a map of the various township boundaries?
Vegaswikian 20:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  township maps 

message: The mention of the nuclear testing should give the distance from the city to the tests, since they weren't actually done inside the City Limits (or the Strip or metro area for that matter).  Would also like to see a mileage figure to Hoover Dam in this section's mention of it. VisitorTalk 14:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Events 

message: In addition to the panorama, there should be a picture of the typical nearly new desert suburban houses where most of the population actually lives, such as this one http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/403832943.html - of course, should use a picture that will not go away.  The economy section really should mention and link to the Wikipedia article on Summerlin and mention its importance not just to Vegas, but also to national trends in suburban real estate development. VisitorTalk 14:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cityscape 

message: Although UNLV is outside the city limits, it's just off the south end of the Strip in the metro area.  The article should clarify this geography.  Simply saying it's miles outside of the city limits could lead people to imagine a drive out of town and through the open desert to get to the university, which of course wouldn't be accurate. VisitorTalk 14:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: How does 10% ridership make the bus system "popular?"  This seems like editorializing, compared to mass transit usage rates at other major cities. 
The freeway widening projects and ongoing road construction, all to serve the growing population, would be worth mentioning in this section. 
Do the Strip resorts make the city have more limo services than most? VisitorTalk 14:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transportation 

message: I suspect it's still true that Vegas is the center of gambling for the U.S.  However, I think the most recent economic statistics show that Macau has overtaken Vegas in terms of total annual gambling revenue.  Calling Vegas "the center of gambling in the United States, and the so-called 'Entertainment Capital of the World'" is probably still accurate- since Macau's visitors don't stay as long and aren't as interested in entertainment, on average, as Vegas visitors.  This is from articles I've seen in the LV Sun and other major news media; I can look up citations if needed. VisitorTalk 03:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "center of gambling" claim in the lead 

message: I think there should be a small mention of the Atomic Testing Museum which is based in LV? After all LV is important to the development of the A bomb, and the nuclear response emergency teams. Is it okay to add this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.120.79.169 (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourism - not just casinos 

message: I've heard Las Vegas imports most of its water, but the article barely mentions water at all. Are there any movements to get the casinos to cut back on water usage? What is the stability of the local water table, and what happened to the artesian wells? I'm just surprised to not see this covered. --NormalAsylum (t) 18:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water situation 

message: I'm going to remove these at some point since the information is not correct.  For example, 89147 is not in the city.  Unless someone can correctly source this and limit these to the city, the information should be deleted as incorrect.  Vegaswikian (talk) 23:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zip codes 

message: The quote "All of the original large casinos were managed or at least funded under mob figures Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel and Meyer Lansky." isn't supported by the identified footnote.  That footnote indicates some mob affiliation - nothing directly linkin git to Bugsy or Meyer (which I'm confident is inaccurate - Bugsy only had a realationship with the Flamigo.)    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.246.79 (talk) 08:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification 

message: I added a link at the top to LV, New Mexico. "Las Vegas" should certainly start here, but I think we could use a "for other uses see Las Vegas Disambiguation" tag and page...Smarkflea (talk) 02:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But "Las Vegas" doesn't redirect here - there is a separate Las Vegas page for disambiguation between the city, the Strip and the metropolitan area. There is also a Las Vegas (disambiguation), so I don't think that so many dab links are needed at the top of this page. Cheers, Rai-me 14:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs disamb. page 

message: Since we have been reverting various IP address vandals on a regular basis, I protected the article for 90 days from edits by anonymous and new editors.  Vegaswikian (talk) 23:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  On going IP vandal edits 

message: I Don't know if the tourism board for Las Vegas is editing this page or what, but this is the only major city on wikipedia I have seen without crime statistics. Las Vegas is well known lately for its violent crime rate rising steadily.Guipo (talk) 11:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually you need to do your research if the last information I saw is to be believed. For most major crimes, the rates are actually dropping and in some case, there are very significant drops.  Check the rates for auto theft for one example.  If you are using the FBI stats, I believe some of what they publish are 2 or 3 years old. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Irrelevant Nathanbrisk (talk) 15:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs crime statistics section. 

message: The economy section previously listed "tourism, gaming, and conventions" as primary drivers of the Las Vegas economy.  I have changed "gaming" to "gambling" because "gaming" is a euphemism for the word "gambling".  "Gaming" is vague, as it could refer to video games, or other types of games such as lawn games or board games that aren't related.  Also, the title of the article linked is even called "gambling", which demonstrates the word "gaming" as misleading and confusing.
I have made this change twice, each time with a full explanation as to why the change makes sense.  However, user Vegaswikian has reverted both changes without bothering to refute my provided reasons or list any him or herself.  Please spend a few seconds providing justification for the word "gaming" so that we may have a dialog. Thesacrificebunt (talk) 21:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, "gaming" is pretty consistently used to refer to the industry, while "gambling" is used to refer to people's activities. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaming vs. Gambling 

message: My edit comment on my removal of this was incorrect. Open containers are legal in the city and on the Strip. However, I still think the edit was justified as it's not appropriate for the lead. Simishag (talk) 21:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drinking laws 

message: A few things that come to mind here:
# This road plan would probably be useful for all the articles associated with Las Vegas, Clark County, North Las Vegas, etc; perhaps it could be moved into an infobox or some other widget. I'm not sure what the exact limits should be but limiting it to just the city limits seems arbitrary. As it is, if someone wants information on how to get around in Las Vegas, they will not find a number of the major Strip streets here.
# Including the freeways inline in a list of the NS/EW arterials is confusing. 215 zigzags all over the place, it would need to be included twice on the east-west list, and to say it follows the grid alignment (even if it does over some portion) is stretching things a bit.
# The use of "aligned" with respect to freeways is confusing. Looking at Google Maps, only the easternmost portion of Summerlin Parkway is aligned with any part of Bonanza, and it's a really a pretty small part of Bonanza, just the part west of downtown. There's also a big gap between the Parkway interchange & Bonanza. The majority of Bonanza runs east of downtown and is "aligned" closer to US 95.
# A number of significant arterials do not run the entire NS/EW length of the city. Some end well inside the city or run only to an approximate NS/EW centerline of the city. The endpoint should be noted. Example: Ann Road is EW but only serves points west of Camino Al Norte/Camino Eldorado. (EDIT: actually, this is a bad example as Ann runs a bit farther east, but there are plenty of other examples).
# A number of significant arterials change names without any change in direction and these should be noted. Example: N Durango/Rampart/Fort Apache (bonus: the separate segment of S Durango). Simishag (talk) 00:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll let the person who added the data and cited the source comment on most of your points.  However for the first one, the city article is not the place to include information about Henderson.  For information that is about the valley in general, it goes in Las Vegas metropolitan area.  Vegaswikian (talk) 06:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Point 3 refers specifically to your reversion of my edit yesterday, so I'd appreciate your response. Simishag (talk) 19:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I undid your revision back to the sourced version.  If you want to source that one from a different source feel free to do so.  Vegaswikian (talk) 19:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you're referring to the Nevada DOT PDF, which is a planning document rather than a scale map. It does not support the claim that Summerlin Pkwy and Bonanza are the same road. I don't think a source is necessary to prove this; it's obvious by simple inspection of freely available maps. Simishag (talk) 20:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing was asserting that Summerlin Pkwy and Bonanza are the same road.  The assertion from the other editor was that they are on the same basic alignment when looking at the roads from a north to south perspective. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The "other editor" was you (see ). No one besides you or me has edited the "Roads" section in over a month. Perhaps you did not write the original copy that I modified, but once you restored it, it became your edit. The assertion that they are "aligned" is false if based solely on the DOT PDF source. The short portion of W Bonanza is not shown on the DOT map, and the portion of E Bonanza which is shown is clearly on a separate line. Simishag (talk) 20:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I would not object.  However since it only covers the valley, Las Vegas metropolitan area would appear to be the better target.  Some of this might be better in that article.  Another option would be to create Las Vegas metropolitan area transportation and move most of the road, monorail, tram and airport stuff there.  With a few local exceptions, most of the road stuff is I think covered by the RTC. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roads 

message: This is a poor description of the Mojave desert: As befits a desert, much of the landscape is rocky and dusty.  First, there are all sorts of deserts - from the sand-blown Sahara to the frigid Antartica - so no landscape 'befits' a desert.  Why don't we say something like,  "The dry landscape consists mostly of low brush and dry, clay soil, as is typical for Western US deserts."
"Las Vegas was the most populous American city founded in the 20th century (a distinction held by Chicago in the 19th century)" - Technically that would read as: Chicago in the 19th century held the distinction for the being the most populous American city founded in the 20th century. --UtahStizzle (talk) 09:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor Description 

message: I can not fathom a reasonable excuse for why "Lost Wages" redirects to "Las Vegas". This should be corrected. 199.80.142.70 (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that is one of the slang terms used to refer to Vegas.  How do you propose correcting?  If you want this removed you need to file a request at WP:RFD. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:15, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably someone is too fond of the Steely Dan song Show Biz Kids. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost Wages redirects to Las Vegas 

message: I live in las vegas and in "Transportation," it doesn't talk about the tram! Can someone put it in, or do I have to do it?
-Warriorscourge (talk) 19:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mainly because it is not in the city.  Vegaswikian (talk) 07:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHAT??!! 

message: In order to reach Good Article status some work needs to be done.  One thing that is clear is the need to basically do inline citations for just about every paragraph and fact.  So if someone wants to start on that it will be appreciated in the long run. BTW, this lack of citations appears to he the reason why Lake Tahoe is not listed as a GA.  Vegaswikian (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the pictures really need reviewing/replacing especially the one in the infobox.  Most of these are not in the city.  Vegaswikian (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I just realized how some pictures weren't quite the city city. As well, the article needs to be re-scoped to make mention of the western neighborhoods and diminish the Strip and casino value a bit. Las Vegas Strip is indeed more an appropriate article to further delve into the touristy nature of the metro area. davumaya 22:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, looks like another good cleanup is needed to undo all of the information added that is not about the city.  Vegaswikian (talk) 22:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA improvements 

message: Starting a discussion here for others to discuss and establish consensus as an edit war is developing over this..
The current top image does not serve the article in question. The article in question is about the city of Las Vegas, not just one building in the city. Since this article is not about the one building, Las Vegas Club and about the city itself, I believe a picture of the skyline would be more appropriate. Bporter 28 06:19 14 January 2009
File:Las vegas club-edit1.jpg|Established top image
File:New Vegas Infobox Pic Montage.jpg|The image that has been swapped in and reverted a few times
Bones of the dispute seems to be that the second image fails to depict the city, what it shows is a number of casinos on the strip - not itself part of the city. The original image shows a well known building that is in the city of Las Vegas.
Thoughts here please. I agree with the contention and think that the original image is more appropriate until a better one can be found that more completely represents the city rather than the Strip. Mfield (talk) 03:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the pictures here should be of the city.  The only one I recall seeing was the panoramic one from 515 of the city.  Not the best for the infobox. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

text: This is splitting hairs, IMO. There's a variety of reasons for the reasons why the region is partitioned the way it is, and while I'd like for the valley to have it's own version of a Bill 103 and merge up, the fact is that this is that Wikipedia isn't a civics lesson. Thousands of books refer to the Strip as Las Vegas regardless of political boundaries, and even the county-run McCarran International Airport refers to itself as from Las Vegas. At the very bare minimum, at least get a picture focusing on the Stratosphere, since it's the most iconic structure within city limits.70.170.20.107 (talk) 05:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Would this be a better picture (http://johnkeyes.com/images/magick.php/JPK_3342_w.jpg)? It's the entire skyline of downtown. Musepharaoh (talk) 09:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes. But it needs to meet the license requirements when it is uploaded, here or on commons. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I uploaded a picture much like the one from the link. This one is from Flickr and it meets requirements. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Downtown_Las_Vegas_from_Stratosphere_3.jpg) Musepharaoh (talk) 05:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Image 

message: Can we see more in this article about Las Vegas as a retirement community?  Ncgal78 (talk) 00:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I will add some of these additions eventually. I would also like to remind editors to adhere the distinction between Las Vegas incorporated and the Las Vegas Strip. davumaya 22:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retirement community 

message: The New City Manager of Las Vegas is Betsy Fretwell, who replaced Douglas Selby when he retired. Can someone change the city manager? 71.205.0.204 (talk) 14:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New City Manager. 

message: We had several archives, 1, 2, 01 and 02 over time.  I consolidated them into one archive which should make it easier to find things in the archive. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archives 

message: Sup  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.61.191 (talk) 00:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  greetings 

message: According to the notices at the top of this article:
"This article is about the city of Las Vegas, Nevada proper, not to be confused with the Las Vegas Strip or the Las Vegas metropolitan area." and
"This article is about the city in Nevada. For other uses, see Las Vegas."
I agree, but the article itself doesn't follow these requirements. Many statements, especially those in sections Economy and Redevelopment, refer to the Strip or to the metropolitan area. Since there's already an article on the Las Vegas metropolitan area, it seems we should either combine the two articles, or separate the two. Right now, there's a hodge podge. Opinions? Larry (talk) 14:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the Strip developments have a tendency to drive, in a good or bad way, the economy in the city, it is not unreasonable to include them here.  Having said that, rewriting those areas of the article to move most of the material to the metro article would seem to make the most sense. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope: Is This Article About Just the City? 

message: Definitely  rather than ?  Is this how non  merging accents pronounce it?  In Britain, people usually say , so I can't tell from that point of view. Lfh (talk) 17:12, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I never took the time to figure out those codes.  The ending is like the end portion of 'loss', the beginning like 'la'.  Vegaswikian (talk) 18:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was wondering if the beginning was like "loss" or "la", but those vowels are identical in most American accents anyway.  I would think "la" seems more likely though. Lfh (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As someone who lived in Las Vegas for over 11 years, most people I have talked to have said , and Spanish speakers do as well. MohammadMosaddeq 00:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: Occurred to me that details of Vegas Public Transport and its Schedules should be on a separate page. Duh? The point being, that such a move should be done across cities in Wikipedia overall, right? Then we could also have a central page called Public Transport, with links to all of them. Also, in time, this would allow some automated systems that may even update the major timetables! Gwrede (talk) 22:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding time tables gets into WP:TRAVEL and WP:NOTADIRECTORY.  As to a separate page, we pretty much have that covered under :RTC Transit.  I'm not sure that the city is still operating any bus service.  Didn't they drop the last of their service last year when they turned over the DTC to the RTC? On the more general issue of doing this on a global basis, I don't see that happening since in many areas transportation is regional.  Even the transit system for NYC runs well north of the city (50 miles or so) covers two states and both sides of the Hudson River as I recall. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

text: I concur with Vegaswikian.  Gwrede seems to have mixed up Wikipedia with Wikitravel.  (I contribute to both, by the way.)  --Coolcaesar (talk) 00:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Public Transport (per City) into a Category 

message: The page is now indefinitely protect for excessive vandalism.  This is in addition to the previous indefinite move protection.  I have tried to use shorter periods for the protection, but it seems that as soon as the protection is lifted, the anon vandals return.  If anyone thinks sufficient time has pasted for this action and think we should try lifting it again, leave a note here. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that section was reworded.  Thanks for pointing it out. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protected 

message: The photo in question. This prior photo shows only a small amount of the city of Las Vegas. While I fully understand that the Las Vegas Strip is not located in the city of Las Vegas, this is being explained explicitly under the new picture and throughout the article. The prior picture shows downtown only, and the city of Las Vegas, not including the metro, Paradise, NV, or Winchester, NV, still expands beyond this point. Please find a new picture of the entire city, rather than just a portion. It would be better suited to the artilce. In the mean time, I will leave this picture, but the sooner the better. I want to work with you guys as a team to find a picture that is better suited. Much appreciated. Thank you! 28 March 2010 Bporter28  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bporter28 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The city does not include anything south of Sahara.  So while the current image may only show a portion of the city, it shows the notable portion.  Using a picture that is mostly areas that are not in the city is just not appropriate for the article on the city.  Maybe it is of value in any of the articles that cover the area in that image. It would be nice if there were a selection of images available that could be used, but for whatever reason, they seem to be hard to come by.  In any case, getting a picture of the entire city would be difficult at best since it stretches from the valley in the east to the foothills in the west. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

text: It's a tricky one, but as noted at the top of the article, "This article is about the city of Las Vegas, Nevada proper, not to be confused with the Las Vegas Strip or the Las Vegas metropolitan area." Thus, an image of The Strip, or of such metropolitan areas as Paradise, belong elsewhere. Larry (talk) 01:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

text: THE STRIP IS NOT IN THE CITY!!!!!!  It is in the area that most people call Las Vegas.  So trying to highlight the strip in the city article is simply wrong.  I'm going to undo your last change of the image since the two are about the same and you replaced the more detailed one (1280x960} with the less detailed one (600x402). Vegaswikian (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

text: The two pictures are pretty much the same except one is poorer quality. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Indeed. Las Vegas, Nevada is about the city Las Vegas, Nevada -- not about Paradise, Winchester, Spring Valley, Henderson, or any of the rest of Clark County. Can this be any more clear? --jpgordon::==( o ) 18:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

text: And if you can get consensus to add to the confusion about what the City of Las Vegas is (as opposed to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Area), then that picture could be used. As it is, the consensus at this article appears to be that it should be about the city, and that the photo should be as well. --jpgordon::==( o ) 22:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, you keep repeating that.  Bottom line is the by consensus there is no Las Vegas article which might address your concerns.  As everyone else keeps repeating, there is a clear division for the city article, and the strip is not in the city.  We know what you want, but there is no consensus for that. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:47, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

text: As the discussion clearly shows, consensus has not been reached on the proposed change. The picture in question should be left in its original format. Larry (talk) 13:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't understand your question.  There is consensus to leave the photo as it was.  Consensus is what you wind up with on the encyclopedia.  The fact that you don't agree with consensus does not mean that consensus is wrong. Not everyone agrees with consensus in every case. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather odd that someone who has been editing Wikipedia for over four years is unfamiliar with Wikipedia's peculiar use of the term "consensus". --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

text: You do not have consensus for this change, yet you keep doing it. Does this somehow seem in keeping with Wikipedia policy to you? --jpgordon::==( o ) 05:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

text: And yet again you fail to explain why a low resolution picture is better then one with a much higher resolution.  To my eye they cover pretty much the same area. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

text: You have continuously put forth your opinion, and the consensus is against you. Time to move on. --Larry (talk) 19:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, this part of the discussion is about another picture - and the consensus here too is to leave it alone. P.S.: please remember to sign your posts. SineBot gets around to correcting it, but once in a while someone will read a post before this occurs. --Larry (talk) 20:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Repeated changing an article when there is no consensus to change is disruptive.  You are not being ignored, this discussion has reached an end.  If you continue to change the article you will likely receive warnings like  or  or . Vegaswikian (talk) 00:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

text: The Strat is in the city but not the Sahara. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:08, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Dang...  So I'm guessing there's just not enough landmarks to make a montage out of, eh? DunGoofd (talk) 05:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Vegaswikian (talk) 05:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you :) DunGoofd (talk) 06:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 2010 

message: Why is there one line about local parks then some nonsense about Hawaiians?  The number of former Hawaiians currently in Las Vegas is not an attraction nor is it a park.  Having an ABC store is not pertinent to article and this section needs to be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.220.160 (talk) 03:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parks and Rec (Attractions) 

message: This text seems to be out of context in "geography and climate" section:
"Enabling the rapid population expansion was a major addition to the city's sewage treatment capacity. The sewage treatment expansion resulted from a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency grant funding 2008 programs to analyze and forecast growth and environmental impacts through the year 2019."
Alex (Alexander Sorokin), Aug 22, 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.37.13 (talk) 04:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off-topic passage in geography and climate 

message: the article states that las vegas has the most churches per captia, not only is this not cited, is is stated in deceptive context. The churches consist largely of drive thru wedding chapels, not actual congregations, and is not an indication of piety to contrast the city's reputation. 98.206.155.53 (talk) 04:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  churches 

message: This article reads like an advertisment and self-promotion. I suggest at the least that we re-write some of the paragraphs and praising of las vegas. --Monterey Bay (talk) 05:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertisment 

message: Please fix it. I accidentally removed the climate box in my attempts to make this page readable. Simplyianm (talk) 02:29, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout 

message: As one followup from the rename, the material that is about the area should be limited in the city article which should actually concentrate on the city proper.  I have done a few moves, but clearly more needs doing.  So if anyone wants to give a hand, jump in.  Be aware that this should not be simply deletions unless the material is already included in another article.  If the material is not in the correct article it needs to be moved to the correct article. Vegaswikian (talk) 08:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how the rename vote demonstrated anything of the kind.  As I have said before, your contention that Las Vegas is an ambiguous term but that Las Vegas, Nevada is a term that clearly refers to only the city proper is simply not supported by anything but your repeated assertions that it is so.  But since you own this article, I suppose it'll go the way you want it to. I certainly won't be giving you a hand in this nonsense. john k (talk) 19:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article cleanup 

message: Hello there!
Yesterday something odd caught my attention and since then I've been trying to look for reliable information on the matter. It is about the city of Pernik (Bulgaria) being listed as one of the Sister Cities of Las Vegas.
See, I am a Bulgarian and I sincerely doubt that Pernik qualifies to be a Sister City of Las Vegas. I immediately thought that it was a prank (left on 18:54, 23 October 2006 by Evanescenceboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Las_Vegas,_Nevada&diff=83256564&oldid=83165639) but (seeing that no one has corrected it for almost four years)  I  nevertheless decided to check for myself.
I visited the web site of Sister Cities International and searched for the state of Nevada and (surprisingly) there was no record of Las Vegas having ANY Sister Cities -- there was just the city pair "Fallon (US) - Vani (Georgia)".
I thought (and I still do) that this was a persistent error in the search engine or the database. So, I went on to compare the results of other searches to the information which is on Wikipedia about some other cities and their Sister Cities. And what I found was that there is a lot of inconsistency between the two sources. (I will refrain from giving examples, for they can be found fairly easy.)
Also, even the List of sister cities in the United States does not show the same as Las Vegas.
So, I would like to ask if any of you know of a reliable source of information on this matter, so that in the future I will not hesitate to correct such errors after referring to it.
~ Xaariz (talk) 11:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I went to the official website of the city of Pernik, where they have a list of their sister cities, and Las Vegas is definitely not in it. You can use Google Translate to check it yourself. Unfortunately the article is locked for me to edit. Best regards, --Лорд Бъмбъри (talk) 09:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister Cities 

message: Las Vegas mayoral election takes place 2011. Incumbent Mayor Oscar Goodman has reached term limit so no incumbent is in the race. 
PRIMARY ELECTION - April 5
Early voting: March 19 - April 1
Voter registration deadline: March 15
GENERAL ELECTION - June 7
 
Link to City of Las Vegas Elections 
Las Vegas Mayor is a 4 year term office with annual salary of $65,247.
Filing Fee: $100.00
Municipal elections are OPEN and NONPARTISAN. That means, candidates’ political parties do not appear on the ballot. You must be a properly registered voter of the city of Las Vegas to vote in this election and you may vote regardless of your party affiliation.
Las Vegas City Charter provides that if, in the Primary City Election, one candidate for an office receives more than a majority of votes cast, they are declared elected and no General City Election is held. If no candidate for that office receives a majority of votes, the names of the two candidates receiving the highest number of votes are placed on the ballot for the General City Election.  
The following candidates certified on the ballot to run for office: 
http://lasvegasnevada.gov/files/CERTIFIED_CANDIDATE_LIST_2011__FORM_.pdf 
A. “Duke” Breuer 
Larry Brown  
Victor Chaltiel  
Katherine “Katie” Duncan  
Joe Falco  
Tim Gamble 
[Giunchigliani]  
Carolyn G. Goodman 
George Harris  
Larry M. Jeppesen  
Deborah Love  
Christine Montez 
Marlene Rogoff  
Steven D. Ross  
Abdul H. Shabazz 
Ed Uehling  
Angel F. Vasquez  
Anthony “little guy” Wernicke
* Las Vegas Review Journal Coverage of Las Vegas Mayors Race 
* City of Las Vegas Elections 
LasVegasLibraryLady  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LasVegasLibraryLady (talk • contribs) 18:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayoral Election of 2011 

message: You are invited to discuss something of importance to this article and Wikipedia:WikiProject Las Vegas at the project talk page. Born2cycle (talk) 22:12, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invitation 

message: In doing some cleanup, I noticed that the article is probably in better shape then a B class.  It needs more references and the external links need to be reviewed and errors corrected. One that is done, it will likely pass GA review. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I recently nominated San Diego for GA Status, which it was awarded. A couple of things I learned is that lists are a no-go for articles hoping to achieve GA status. That being said all lists would have to be converted to prose. See also WP:NOT. I know the size of the article isn't necessarily a criterion for being awarded such status, but this article seems pretty small. It also seems lacking of sufficient information in the proper subsections; such as in Culture, Sports, and Education. This all being said, I feel it would get put on hold or denied status. 08OceanBeachS.D. 21:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Another thing that I also learned is that sections will also require at least one citation, though the necessity of citations will be dependent on the length of the prose and on the content within the prose. 08OceanBeachS.D. 00:19, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs more citations to the claims in the article, as well as Copyedit in certain places, such as the Sports section. It's a ways away from GA status at this point.--Chimino (talk) 10:40, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status 

message: The scope of this article is under discussion at Talk:Las Vegas.  In particular, the discussion is about whether the scope is and should be just the city proper, or whether it is and should be about the surrounding area (especially "the strip") as well.  While that discussion is ongoing, please do not make changes to this article (except for the reverts of others' changes) based on trying to make it conform better to one view or another.  --Born2cycle (talk) 23:57, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholeheartedly agree. 08OceanBeachS.D. 00:10, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes regarding scope - please stop 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Las Vegas which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RM bot 00:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Under the "Tourism" section, it states that most of the downtown casinos are located on Fremont St, with the Stratosphere being the exception. The Stratosphere is (and widely accepted) as being a Strip property. Although the Stratosphere lies within the city limits of Las Vegas, and the other hotel-casinos do not, that does not make the Stratosphere a downtown property. It is quite some distance from downtown, as downtown does not stretch all the way to Sahara Ave. And keep in mind, all of the Strip hotel-casinos do not reside in one jurisdiction anyway; some are located in Paradise, some are in Winchester, some are in Enterprise, and yes, some (or at least one) is located in Las Vegas. So the fact that the Stratosphere lies in Las Vegas isn't the determining factor of whether it is a downtown property or not. Also, printed maps of the Strip casinos always show the Stratosphere; printed maps of downtown casinos do not show the Stratosphere. The article needs to be changed and have the phrase "with the exception of the Stratosphere" removed from the statement that's referring to downtown hotels. People read these articles for information. It is not fair or accurate to have a person who wants to stay in downtown Las Vegas read this and book the Stratosphere when it is not a downtown hotel-casino. Likewise, its not fair or accurate to have a person who wants to stay somewhere on the Strip read this article and rule out the Stratosphere because they are lead to believe it is downtown.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 (talk) 00:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The county definition, cited in the article, shows the strip ending at Sahara, so the Stratosphere is not on the strip. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:26, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stratosphere 

message: Please add the website:  www.neonparadise.com to the external links section.  The website is all about Las Vegas.
Magick12000 (talk) 17:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Magick12000, 5 September 2011 

message: Why doesn't this page discuss unemployment, homelessness, or the movement of resources from Nevada to Asia?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahnshaulis (talk • contribs) 18:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Las Vegas Economics 

message: While making a ho-hum routine edit (deleting the move discussion notice as the discussion has ended), I notice a page notice saying not to add anything about the Las Vegas Strip. Can anyone provide any discussion justifying this page notice? If there is no consensus, there should be no page notice. It seems that more than a majority in recent discussions have wanted the Strip included in the city article, so this page notice seems to contradict consensus. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure about excluding all material on nearby areas. But it should be kept to a minimum.   Will Beback  talk   04:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A page about Las Vegas that doesn't mention the strip is like a page on Seattle that doesn't mention Boeing or a page on Paris that doesn't mention the Palace of Versailles. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverted.  The hat note is sufficient.  The article Las Vegas is about all related topics (actually, a disambiguation page); this article is about the city.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Show me the consensus to do this. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

text: The article does mention the strip - in the  header and in its own dedicated subsection. Julianhall (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

text: That page notice has been there for about two years to clarify that this article is about the city.  If makes it clear what the focus of the article was and continues to be.  As I recall it was added after the feature supporting page notices was 'discovered' and since then it has greatly reduced edit waring in the article, mainly over images.  As I recall it does not say that material about the strip can not be mentioned.  However simply adding material not about the city should be avoided.  Clearly if something on the strip had a direct impact on the city it can be mentioned.  But something about the strip that does not affect the city should not be included. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page edit notice 

message: There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Las Vegas - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RM bot08:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Now that this article about Las Vegas is finally at Las Vegas, do we need section on the strip and other surrounding areas often included within the conception of "Las Vegas"?  Or is the final paragraph of the intro sufficient?  --Born2cycle (talk) 23:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The sentence in the intro is sufficient for the intro, but the subsection under Economy->Tourism on the topic needs to be a longer summary than it is now. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we need a section about the strip? 

message: The Las Vegas 51s signed a new affiliation deal with the New York Mets just a week or two ago.  As such, this page is out of date.
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120917&content_id=38577744&vkey=news_t400&fext=.jsp&sid=t400
The page for the Las Vegas 51s is correct.  I would edit this myself but I see no edit button for the Las Vegas page.  Is this a wiki or what?  ;)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.35.247 (talk) 03:56, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is semi-protected, so only registered users can edit it.  The reason for the protection seems tenuous and long-past, though, so I will suggest it be unprotected.  I have added an  tag atop your request.  Powers T 14:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Done —KuyaBriBriTalk 19:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request, Sports - Las Vegas 51s 

message: "The $485 million Smith Center for the Performing Arts (scheduled for completion in 2012) is located downtown in Symphony Park. The center will host Broadway shows and other major touring attractions as well as orchestra, opera, and dance performances" is outdated. 
According to the wikipedia entry  "Smith Center for the Performing Arts" the center was opened on March 10, 2012.
ErixS (talk) 16:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: I removed everything in brackets. diff A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 1 October 2012 

message: The last line of the "History" section reads:
"The rapid growth of Las Vegas is credited with dooming Galveston, Texas; Hot Springs, Arkansas; and other major gaming centers in the 1950s.[15]"
Unless I am mistaken I believe that it should read "booming Galveston, Texas", not "dooming".
:Unfortunately the sources are not online, but it most certainly is "dooming". Galveston and Hot Springs are not successful gambling destinations. "Booming" would imply that they were a huge success. Ego White Tray (talk) 13:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick spelling change to the History of Las Vegas