Talk:Twinkle Khanna

message: As quoted "The book highlights anecdotes and the experiences of the author regarding her family, surroundings and the way she handles them." Plus the book is no great piece of literature as such with any award wins or so. And if it's about her and her family, better merged in her biography article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:10, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This book meets the notability criteria mentioned in WP:BKCRIT#1 "The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself." Hence this book can have a separate page on WP.--Skr15081997 (talk) 10:59, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Can, but not should. It can be merged as well for above stated reasons. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 18:14, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

text: by your logic autobiographies can't have a page on Wikipedia because the writer's themselves are subject of pages on WP. Well, this book meets the notability guidelines for books and WP:NBOOK doesn't say anything regarding the content of the book.--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Autobiographies by default shouldn't have their own page unless they themselves pass WP:GNG and are not borderline passing of NBOOK. Frankly speaking, this book has no literary value, would not be winning any notable literary award and has no significance outside the context of Twinkle Khanna. So why fork out and make a separate article? A condensed para can sit in this article itself. And hey... the article is gloated with trivia just to pass the 1500 characters limit of DYK. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 13:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Had DYK criteria been my target, I would have added a lot of info regarding the plot but instead I added info about reception and publication. Merge discussions don't help much. This book meets GNG.--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not compulsory for you to discuss the merger. You may leave, your point is noted. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 13:30, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The book has been ranked #3 by HT-Nielsen. See here. Your statement that "
this book has no literary value" is inappropriate. Merge discussions are initiated when the notability of the article is questionable but this isn't the case here.--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:20, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

text: That claim failed verification. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Offline sources and WP:SOURCEACCESS. Thanks, --Skr15081997 (talk) 04:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the merge tags from both articles as the books is notable enough to have its own article.--Skr15081997 (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't do that ever again. Ever heard of WP:INVOLVED? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a general advice for admins. Uncontroversial merger discussions don't require an admin to do the maintenance work. See Wikipedia:Help_desk#Merger_discussion. Regards, --Skr15081997 (talk) 09:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if you ever read it you would see "In general, editors should not act as administrators in disputed cases in which they have been involved." Its written for guys like you who won't have common sense to understand this in the first place. You created the article in dispute, you are the one opposing merger and you thought you are the right person to close it and remove tags???!!! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 14:15, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Lets not teach you why a tag should be present on articles where the discussion is still not closed by non-involved editors. That would be a stupid thing to do. Btw, NBOOK says "This is not an absolute guarantee that there will necessarily be a separate, stand-alone article entirely dedicated to that book." Mergers are always possible. Plus the article doesnt even have 10 encyclopedic sentences in it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Mrs Funnybones]] 

message: I think the article is not a good article because it is may be not neutral. So I think the good article tag should be removed. Ominictionary (talk) 07:14, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  About removing good article tag 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It has been found that the actress' year of birth is being continuously tampered with. While most sources state the birth year as 1974, some users are stating it as 1973 without proof. Henceforth, as per WP:DOB, it is required to state the source if there is any change to the same.|M15s09| 05:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of birth change 

message: I've tagged this page with , because I think the intro has some issues with promotional tone. It devotes a lot of space to the sales figures of her books, and (seemingly not very noteworthy) awards that she's won, e.g. the "Crossword Book Award", "Outlook Award [...] for the most inspiring woman of the year", "Hello! India magazine's Visionary woman of the year", and "the Vogue Opinion Maker Of the Year". This contributes to a tone that reads more like a press release than an encyclopedia article. There are also some WP:PEACOCK issues, e.g. . As User:Ominictionary says above, I think this is incompatible with "Good article" status, and this article should probably be reassessed if this can't be cleaned up promptly. Colin M (talk) 18:51, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with intro 

message: The intro currently claims that she was the best-selling female author in India in 2015 and 2018. The source for 2015 is a blog post repeating a claim made in a tweet by her husband. The source for 2018 is a profile/interview with her. I don't think these sources are strong enough. Can we find a reliable and independent source for best-selling authors in India in 2015 and 2018? I tried doing some searching, and didn't have much luck. It's not a particularly reliable source, but it's interesting that this Quora answer about the top-selling books in India in 2018 (which claims to use combined data from Flipkart and Amazon) doesn't include Khanna's book, but does include multiple other books by female authors (such as Savi Sharma and Rupi Kaur). That's enough to make me even more dubious about the factuality of the lead's claim. Colin M (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Data that is not published cannot be used as sources in Wikipedia. --bonadea contributions talk 05:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

text: As far as I can tell, none of these support the specific claims that she was the best-selling female writer of 2015/2018 in India. The first one says that 'Funnybones' was number one on the non-fiction list at the time of writing. The other two just vaguely describe her as a best-selling author. Colin M (talk) 18:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A recent change to the lead which has been claimed to resolve the issue has in fact aggravated it: the lead now contains even more promotional language, and sources such as the scroll.in source mentioned above and a Facebook page(!) were added. There is some content in the revision that should be saved so I hesitate to revert it entirely, but in any case the issues with the lede have not been resolved. --bonadea contributions talk 14:13, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status as best-selling female writer of 2015/2018 

message: , I see that you have removed text regarding Khanna's acting career from the lead section – calling it "irrelevant and outdated information". Another thing, you have added the sales statistics for her books in the lead section again. Are these stats really important to be mentioned in the lead article? Does a book selling 1,00,000 copies really some exceptional thing that it should be placed in the lead section by removing details of her acting career, film production and interior designing work? One thing to keep in mind regarding these stats is that they have been announced by the publishers themselves and not by some established authority in this field. For now, I'm reverting your edit as these figures have already been covered in the appropriate section. I hope you have no objection to it. --Skr15081997 (talk) 20:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: * Priyak90, Khanna appeared as the female lead in more than a dozen feature films. Her acting career is important enough to be mentioned in the lead section, even if she left it twenty years ago. She also received significant media attention for her work as an interior designer which too deserves a mention in the lead. I have also added that she was reported to be the highest-selling female author in India for the years 2015 and 2018. I think the lead is more balanced now with information on her various professions. --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

text: Priyak90, I have made some changes to the lead section, beginning it with her acting career which is followed by her work in interior designing, film production and writing in chronological order. Your edits had increased the lead size to around 1/4th of the readable prose size in the rest of the article, so I had to trim it. I believe that the name of her three books with their year of publication and her being reported as the highest selling female author of India in 2015 and 2018 sufficiently covers her writing career in the lead section. Remaining information is provided in detail in the appropriate section. --Skr15081997 (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book statistics in Lead section 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Twinkle Khanna Filmography. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 2#Twinkle Khanna Filmography until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Elli (talk | contribs) 06:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Twinkle Khanna Filmography" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]