Talk:Gord (archaeology)

message: ґород (gorod) and город (horod)???
ґород does not exist!!!
Ukrainian город is Russian огород, and Russian город is Ukrainian місто!!! UeArtemis (talk) 16:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukraine 

message: Isn't having Nordic superfluous as the North Germanic languages are a branch of the Germanic language branch?
:I think it is. I removed it. Kpalion 01:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germanic and Nordic 

message: The contents of that article don't significantly add to or differentiate themselves from this one.  Any objections to merging? —Michael Z. 2006-09-22 02:15 Z
:I have no objections.  Merge away. Radagast83 23:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[Grad (geography)]] 

message: When searching for references I found almost nothing for "Gord" so Imoved this article to "Grad (Slavic settlement)" as I found several references for the usage in the correct context. Jeepday (talk) 04:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, shouldn't most of the numerous occurrences of "gord" in the text also be changed to "grad"?--Kotniski (talk) 18:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

text: In fact, I find this article reads rather strangely. I can't decide whether it's about some specific type of fortified settlement, or about this particular set of related Slavic words. Are there some unique architectural features shared by the Lusatian and the much later Slavic grads, or is it just that they happen to be referred to by the same names in Slavic languages? --Kotniski (talk) 18:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: The title of the article is Grad. In the text we read, however:
"A typical gord was a group of wooden houses ... ", many times.
Should not the title and the term used in the article coincide?
--Jidu Boite (talk) 14:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes (the article used to be titled "gord" - it probably wasn't rewritten when the title was changed).--Kotniski (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gord or Grad? 

message: As far as I know, there are numerous cities in Armenia having the suffix of -kerta.
Is this a Slavic loan, or is this a PIE cognate? (Slavic loan is rather improbable, as the Armenians built towns long time before the Slavs, at least 500 years).
--Jidu Boite (talk) 14:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea (might be best to ask at pages dealing with Armenian topics). (Though the fact that they built towns much earlier doesn't necessarily mean that those particular names - or even those particular towns - are older.)--Kotniski (talk) 19:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian cognate 

message: Is the plural form of this word grody? If so, it should be mentioned in the title and a redirect created. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plural form 

message: Gard was old Slavic (especially Baltic, pre germanic (Venetic Slavic Wagrian; or "Variag") name of the Grad. But generally the word represented a root for many other things; Other transliteration was Gorod or Grad.
Grad / Gard / Gorod: castle, city and also a place.
Ograd: "around"/rounded place (gardens)
ograda; fence (around the gardens, around the castle: grad) 
graditi: "to build" ; zgraditi; to built (to finish it). Vgraditi; to build into. 
ograditi: "to build (around)" surround it with buildings, to bar in: fence, wall...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.116.61 (talk) 07:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  There was no term such as "germanic" Gard or Grad - it came from Slavic Gard 

message: I've reverted the good faithed PROD of the article. While I agree there's definitely some problems with original research in the article, the term or its variants is used in English literature. It's not a Polish neologism as then the word would be "grod" not "gord". Actually, that might be a better title, for example see here: .Volunteer Marek (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The basic difficulty is that all Slavic languages have some form of the word, so picking one sort of "privileges" one language over others. So I understand the logic behind the suggestion (it's also why I think the article was begun under "Gord" which is supposedly the proto-Slavic form). However, I think the word "village" in there is a bit misleading. Some of these fortified places were quite large. Maybe just "Slavic fort"? Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have no problem with Slavic fort. The article Slavic dragon is named as it is for the same reasons. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the sources. I think the our concern is not language neutrality as much as usage and understanding. That is, as wikipedians, it is not our jobs to coin terms, or decide what they should be. Rather we should use the ones in common usage, and I think with a bias towards current scholarly work, at the same time to avoid wikipedia from being first, we shouldn't change terms as soon as an academic coins a better one. That being said, I think the problems with the article are the focus on language. What makes a gord different from any other of it's counterparts, except from being slavic? Presumably, there are other burgwalls? Although this seems to imply that simply burgwall implies Slavicness. Anyway, I don't see what makes it different from any other hill fort or burg. Of course, in the context of archaeology, hillforts are iron age settlements not any fort on a hill, and in fact, are not always on hills. So the terms themselves should not be given too much emphasis. Tinynanorobots (talk) 16:27, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  de-PROD 

message: It should not be difficult to trace how it appeared in english. Do scientific papers use it? Who introduced it? How was it built? It looks english but apparently isn't. Spending half the article discussing IE cognates is pointless, all the more since the word itself is of questionable existence, 161.230.125.227 (talk) 14:02, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the word gord even exist? 

message: In the etymology section of this article, the Belarusian (first in the list) is written in Cyrillic, while all others, latin-based languages nonwithstanding, are written in a romanization. Why is this? Thegkz (talk) 12:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology section