Talk:Umbrella

message: ++++++++++++++++++ PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS NOT TO BE MIXED THE ETIMOLOGY OF THE WORD WITH THE DIFFERENT INSTANCES OF UMBRELLAS IN THE WORLD'S HISTORY++  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.134.41 (talk) 20:04, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: The Parasol Girl photo is really more about the sexy girl than an explanation of umbrellas, isn't it? This is a bit gratuitous and promotional.
Not to be a prude here -- she's hot! Is she is promoting something at a car show like other shots in your portfolio? Maybe these beautiful pix belong in a new article "booth babe" or "car show?"
Parasol, Parasail, Umbrella? We need a disambiguation.--x1987x 15:47, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
See my comments further down. Sweetalker79 (talk) 04:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo about sexy girl, not umbrellas 

message: My mother is the only person I know who calls umbrellas "bumberchutes."  A quick look on google shows "bumberchute" is a brand name for incontinence pants, which, well, is interesting.  Has anyone else ever heard "bumberchute?" Crazynorvegian 07:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other names 

message: I don't think Samuel Fox claimed to have been the first to use Iron or Steel for an umbrella frame, but he did build his very successful business on the use of Spring Steel curved to a special profile ('U' shaped, I think) and took out several patents. AHEMSLTD 13:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samuel Fox 

message: What about modern versions? Automatic open and close, different kinds of handles on the umbrellas and materials used to coat the umbrella fabric? 71.250.34.13 14:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Umbrellas 

message: This article needs more information on the mechanics of modern umbrellas and the names of the various parts.--Theodore Kloba 15:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction and mechanics 

message: I can't seem to find the name of the umbrella-like-object used sometimes when taking pictures. Should it be mentioned in this article? Am00nz0r5 21:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used in photo taking? 

message: Is it true that umbrellas attract thunder? So if you're carrying one during a thunderstorm you risk a higher chance of being hit?--195.229.242.86 17:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only to a very slight extent; see here. TerriersFan 20:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lightning 

message: I reverted some apparent vandalism done by 209.120.230.238. I left a request in 209.120.230.238 talk page to please do not vandalize articles. --Allyn 01:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted apparent vandalism 

message: Hello:
I don't know if this is fair use, but I notice that the picture of the parts of an umbrella is taken directly from the Carver Umbrella web site, which has a copyright logo at the bottom of the picture. Anyone care to comment on this? --Allyn 13:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright violation 

message: I am removing this photo that detracts from the quality of the article. The other photos on the page adequately represent the object of the article, and are of much higher quality. Secondly, User:Allyn uploaded the photo of himself, in which he is modelling garments he designs and sells on his personal website, in contradiction of Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Self-promotion. This photo is one of many photos of himself the user has inserted in various articles. RP Bravo 14:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing Image

message: It redirects here! But maybe it shouldn't. --AnYoNe! 08:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Took me a while to work out what you were referring to (that the "☂" symbol redirects here)! I wonder if perhaps that symbol was originally a character from some other language (Chinese? Korean?) that means "umbrella" in that language.--A bit iffy 08:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: For me, that symbol is appearing as an umbrella (in Firefox). It's unicode character 0x2602. See unicode.org - it's officially an umbrella. There are Wikipedia redirects for certain common unicode symbols - e.g. a redirect exists for mdash (code 0x2014). Click the dash: %E2%80%94. But it's kind of novel to have one for the umbrella symbol. --KKL 19:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously kewl.  We need that for every Unicode symbol.    Randall Bart    Talk   18:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Keyboard" symbol, ⌨ redirects to the article keyboard, so I think it IS done for every symbol. I agree, it IS cool, though.24.124.88.11 (talk) 17:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[☂]] symbol redirects here 

message: I have removed much of the section as it was becoming bloated with cultural references that don't seem significant to me.--A bit iffy 07:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think that The Penguin from the Batman series would be significant? That was the first thing I thought when I saw this section, and it was a pretty famous use. Anywho. Just asking before adding in any sort. Mizunori 13:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "As a weapon" section

message: I have removed this as all it states is that the umbrella has entered into popular culture do to a new song release. I think 'Singing In The Rail' might have already got the umbrella into peoples minds before that. Not to mention actual RAIN! :/
64.26.160.78 20:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "In Music" section

message: Would it be relevant to mention the cultural significance umbrellas have for Japanese couples?  I read once that due to the general standards of politeness in Japan, it's considered rude for people who are involved romantically to hug etc. in public, and it's only when they're sharing an umbrella (which naturally requires closeness) that such behaviour isn't "bad form".  (Because of this, the Japanese equivalent of "'x' loves 'y'" consists of the two names written under a stylised umbrella.)  I think there was even a chapter about it in School Rumble (it featured one character tries to convince the boy she likes to share an umbrella with her), and there was a very detailed translation note about it in the Del Rey English release.  Would this be considered notable enough for inclusion in the article?--Tally Solleni 08:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to write it, go for it.  Be sure to include a cite to a website in Japanese.   Randall Bart    Talk   18:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romantic Significance in Japan 

message: The reference to the Texas A&M website (reference 4) is outdated.  The article has apparently been moved here: http://agnewsarchive.tamu.edu/dailynews/stories/CFAM/Jul1301a.htm 199.8.47.164 (talk) 23:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated reference 

message: Anyone who saw Blade Runner remembers the Umbrellas with light up rods right? Well I saw someone selling something like that on Ebay and thingeek.com is selling that stuff too, so shouldn't this be in a miscellaneous, or (a proposed) "Future of Umbrellas" section? Yojimbo501 (talk) 16:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Future of Umbrellas?

message: hello
I search the correct date when the name umbrella the first one appeared. In 386 AD I heard it was the first one, but I'm not surely! I'm happy about every answer because at the moment I'm written a text about umbrellas. Pleas answer to this e-mail address: umbrella@gmx.ch
I excuse me about my vocabulary and my grammar ->I'm from Switzerland
Thak you a lot...
Please answer to the second June 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.61.181 (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Umbrella 

message: Since the ribs used to make umbrellas led to wire bicycle wheels which were ultimately used in cars, shouldn't it be mentioned? (I think Peugeot & History of the automobile have sources for it...)  TREKphiler 20:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Big wheel keeps on turning

message: Some of your facts about who invented the small-collapsible-umbrella are wrong. It was invented by Alan Carncross in 1945 - during his D-Day War service, where he was twice wounded without a war-pension. He managed to finally get a patent for the first Collapsible-Folding-Umbrella in 1948 - because there were long-delays in the Patent-Office -after the war. It additionally had solid Duralumin Ribs, and was therefore strong and lightweight and would not blow-inside-out. The Queen of England had  two of those first collapsible Folding Umbrellas, and we had a letter from Buckingham Palace. It was also sold in Harrods, Kendal Milnes, Binns and many other British stores. Cloth-Materials were on coupons. We sat on the cold doorstep of Parliament in London at 5.0am to try to get a coupon float to make those umbrellas. We see that others in America are claiming that they invented 'The Small Umbrella in the 1960s.
Alan Carncross ----- who now has over 6,000 inventions and posses a 'Wold-Beating Equation' that not one person ---(Like Einstein's E=MC2 equation)  ---- Not one person can yet understand!#
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Just earlier, Gun Powder Ma by stated the Greeks and Romans had the collapsible umbrella and instead of citing a published source, he chose the route of original research and found two tiny, hazy, indistinguishable pictures that clearly did not show anything of a collapsible mechanism. Look here and here. How can you seriously pass this off as a citation?--Pericles of AthensTalk 01:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Collapsible umbrella

message: Okay, I'm British and I've never heard anyone, and I mean ANYONE call an umbrella a 'gamp'. I've never even heard the word, actually. Nor have my friends. I know someone got it from an Oxford thingy, but I've never heard about it. Maybe people call them 'gamps' in the city, but I've still never heard ANYONE talking about a 'gamp', ever before.
Nineza (talk) 20:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gamp?

message: The usual number is 8. But I didn't find Google Images listed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Art LaPella (talk) 20:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many ribs? 

message: I don't think the nubrella is really a umbrella, it's a bubble you place over your head. The blunt isn't innovative enough, I think, to be worth mentioning. It just looks like an umbrella with extra strong spokes. --Vera (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct 32.60.101.185 (talk) 16:40, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nubrella" and "Blunt" 

message: The External links section contains two links that I don't understand what they are good for:
* Frei Ottos Homepage
* SL Rasch website: http://www.sl-rasch.de
I think they should be deleted, any thoughts?
—  Ark25  (talk) 22:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm it seems they are about parties that design and build umbrella-shaped roofs, in case we keep them, then the description of the links should specify that. —  Ark25  (talk) 22:14, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: "9. ^ Needham, Joseph (1986). Science and Civilization in China: Volume 4, Physics and Physical Technology, Part 2: Mechanical Engineering. Taipei: Caves Books, Ltd. Page 70."
According to the Neeham Research Institute, the source was actually published in 1965.
"Needham Research Institute - Science and Civilisation in China." Needham Research Institute. Web. 16 Dec. 2014. <http://www.nri.org.uk/science.html>.
--Theodoge (talk) 04:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in Reference 9 (don't know how to make a direct edit) 

message: In this section:
>>The ombrellino or umbraculum is addof the papal regalia. Although the popes no longer use it personally, it is displayed on the coat of arms of a sede vacante (the papal arms used between the death of a pope and the election of his successor).
"Addof" is not a word. I think it should be "a symbol of" or something of that sort. Dgs5043 (talk) 18:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: - Removed the word. Thanks for pointing that out! regards, DRAGON BOOSTER  ★ 09:24, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2016 

message: Rizzotti umbrella has two Zs.  Salvatore A. Rizzotti gets the patenthttps://www.google.com/patents/US5555903
71.89.219.147 (talk) 07:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2017 

message: Change 'The word "umbrella" evolved from the Latin umbella (an umbel is a flat-topped rounded flower) or umbra, meaning shaded or shadow' to 'the word "umbrella" is Latin, a variant of umbella (diminutive of umbra, meaning shade or shadow") meaning little shade' because the reference to the flower (actually the inflorescence) is in error and, in my view, irrelevant. The inflorescence (NOT flower) called "umbel" is NOT the origin of the word, but was named because of its similarity to an "umbella". It may be of interest to note that in most Romance languages this word form is barely changed, viz. umbrela (Rumanian, from "umbra"), ombrello (Italian, from "ombra"), ombrella (Catalan), sombrilla (Spanish), sombrinha (Portuguese), although in the latter three it only means parasol, a device protecting against the sun but not the rain. 201.217.255.134 (talk) 22:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have sources to cite for any of this, or is this all original research?  If the latter, sorry, we can't use it. General Ization Talk    22:08, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2017 

message: Missing citation at the end of paragraph reading "By 1788 however they seem to have been accepted: a London newspaper advertises the sale of 'improved and pocket Umbrellas, on steel frames, with every other kind of common Umbrella.' But full acceptance is not complete even today with some considering umbrellas effete."
Suggest using following link as the citation: https://www.inverlla.com/index.php/2017/06/17/are-umbrellas-effete/
Article is well researched and links Google Books and other sources. 196.52.60.27 (talk) 21:48, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It is, however, a blog, and hence not a published, reliable source for Wikipedia. Most of its content, in fact, is sourced to Wikipedia; see WP:CIRCULAR.  Possibly some of its linked sources, such as the NYTimes article, can be used here. General Ization Talk    21:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

text: Not done: per General Ization. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 21:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2017 

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