Talk:List of defunct department stores of the United States

message: Per WP:LIST in order to make this a maintainable article that does not fail WP:NOT, this list needs inclusion criteria.  Until another is agreed upon, I suggest the common criteria of only listing entries with their own articles. --Ronz (talk) 19:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:WTAF.  Another alternative is to provide references for entries or sections of entries. --Ronz (talk) 19:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The most notable topic behind this list is the rapid sequence of events (including serial mergers, acquisitions, renamings, and closures) that resulted in the disappearance of many long-standing retail institutions across the United States. The list is useful as a tool for keeping track of the names of these vanished stores, and who absorbed whom. The list has value, whether or not there is a separate article about every store on the list. However, references are sorely needed. --Orlady (talk) 15:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: References would solve the problem.  Unfortunately there are none at all.  I've tagged it as unreferenced, but I think this type of list is unfit for Wikipedia.  Let's see if some editors come through with references.  Even external links to similar lists would be helpful. --Ronz (talk) 15:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a lot of references now.  And there are way more out there.  But it requires editors and lots of work to do what I accomplished in the Michigan section.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:41, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: List inclusion criteria

message: Possible missing entry: there was a large Unimart on Hollywood Way in Burbank circa 1962 until circa 1971. I have no idea as to how many stores comprised the chain. I believe that Unimart has no relation to Uni-Mart. LorenzoB (talk) 04:31, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Unimart

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message: Is Odd Job Stores Inc. notable enough to be on the list?Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 23:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The multi-state chain is already listed under the List of defunct department stores of the United States#National and regional section.  50.195.200.161 (talk) 02:57, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  not notable? 

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message: The Department Store Museum is there starting archives. And here  With lots of additional material added therafter. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:06, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Great source

message: Text and references copied from List of defunct department stores of the United States to The Arbaugh,  See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from List of defunct department stores of the United States to William Milliken,  See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from The Arbaugh to List of defunct department stores of the United States,  See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from List of defunct department stores of the United States to Zayre,  See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from Shoppers Fair to List of defunct department stores of the United States. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from List of defunct department stores of the United States to Fashion Square Mall.  See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:26, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from List of defunct department stores of the United States to Lauerman Brothers Department Store. See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Text and references copied from Lauerman Brothers Department Store to  List of defunct department stores of the United States  See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Attribution

message: Goedeker's 1847 filed for bankruptcy, despite  being founded in 1951.Polished, which began as Goedeker's 1847 Plans to File for Bankruptcy. Saint Louis Post Dispatch  7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Goedeker's 1847

message: User:Kuru  This edit was reverted as  being unhelpful.
The source you removed is the unique and ONLY source for a number of the mentioned Michigan stores.  You removed the source for them! That content is similar to Wikipedia's article now does not mean it should be eliminated.  You trashed the sourcing.    They may have copied some from the Wikipdia page, but they had stores that were not otherwise available. I know where they came from, as I put them into the Wikipedia page, and some of them came from there.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies, this did not ping me and I just noticed it after reverting your change again. This is not a source, this is a simple copy of an older version of this article. If you put them on the page without a source, and another site copied the page, this is a WP:CIRCULAR source. I'm not sure how that makes any sense to you at all. Alchetron copies articles here verbatim; it's an open platform now as well, and is simply not a reliable source. I would invite you to start a discussion at WP:RSN if you feel that WP:MIRRORS and open wikis can now be used. Thanks. Sam Kuru (talk) 13:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is not a "simple copy of an older version."  I am the only one putting in the Michigan stores.  That's been true for a long time. I do not know how the website compiled its information.  You are right about the attribution on their page.  Do you?  Point me to the earlier version if you can, please.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly. Most likely around 2/19/17. That version includes addition of "Woodward & Lothrop", as does the mirror at Alchetron - including the ". Von Maur" typo added a few edits before. The articles line up exactly, with only minor scraping artifacts manifesting (the bullet indentation is lost when it was copied, as was the "other department stores" subheader. Sam Kuru (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever.  The offending citation has been removed.  And I improved the citations.  Thank you and you're welcome.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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