Talk:Continental Germanic mythology

message: The topic "Continental Germanic mythology" is WAY bigger than the introduction covers. I have trouble seeing a continental mythology being a sub-subset of southern German which is a subset of German mythology. I think a "continental" mythology should cover the entire continent of Europe so I propose you redirect this page to: German polytheism, the current name for German (Teutonic) mythology....now perhaps "contintental" is in a text book somewhere with defined regional boundaries contradicting my understanding of a contintent. I doubt it, but if so please quote the source, this page needs sources to exist. With this message I am downgrading myth importance to "mid" - I thought it was the entire continent when I first graded it high. Goldenrowley 01:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dutch mythology was re-scoped as Low Country Mythology, its more about that region than about this Germanic culture ^by itself^.  Suggest not to merge and concentrate here on the mythology of Germanic peoples. Goldenrowley 23:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I dont know about that, your taking an extremely conservative stance. I think you havent read or for some reason you want to dimiss Reginheim's 5-10 web pages on Dutch mythology. So someone has already published.  I've learned just recently by the way his Dutch articles are  each English translations of Dutch sources. I can check whether its books or magazine articles and I can check their credentials out. I guess I have to if you doubt everything.  Goldenrowley 01:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You must have been looking for it in English or German. I found and added a bunch of Dutch-language sources.Goldenrowley 03:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Topic

message: Currently the article says:  "East Germanic influence stretched even farther south, west and east, to Italy, Iberia, Sarmatia, Dacia and Illyria, but has left only very fragmentary traces." I wonder, is that what the main source(s) say? check out Slavic mythology is that "east Germanic."  The mention of Italy would be to the south and "Alpine" region, no? Goldenrowley 19:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: East Germanic q.

message: So Frige = Frigg and Freo = Freya.
Frigg = "marriage love" and Freya = "erotic love"? Frigg is connected with "marriage love"? Where? Which mythological writing suggests that? As I know, Frigg had sexual relationships with her husband's brothers (Poetic Edda, Ynglinga Saga). Protector of marriage love? Frigg had sex with a slave to steal her husband's gold (Gesta Danorum). Marriage love? Freya, on the other hand, is famous for her golden tears for her husband (numerous sources). Erotic love? Prose Edda states that Freya is goddess of love, nothing said about Frigg. Langobard's History states that Frea is goddess of love.
And I don't know who wrote this, but it does NOT make ANY sense: Being a goddess of unbridled passion, it is not surprising that she also takes half the slain of the battlefield, with the other half taken by Woden  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.19.44.15 (talk) 17:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frige/Freo 

message: All information that is given by this article does not refer to the Bavarians, but strangely, most sources that are mentioned are Bavarian, like the Lay of Hildebrand, the Muspilli, the Nibelungenlied and the story of Dietrich of Bern. Hence of that, all disclaimer badges are more than sound. --El bes (talk) 00:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bavarians 

message: I've just reverted another addition of a 'rewrite' that consists of nothing but unsourced material. This material contains numerous inaccuracies and theories presented as fact.
Statements like "Also, a law against sodomy passed by Charlemagne states that this behavior originates from a man named Fricco (Freyr). It clearly points to the phallic god of fertility, who was worshipped in the Temple at Uppsala in Sweden, amongst other temples" and "Perchta, well-known in the southern German and Alpine regions, emerged in the same fashion from an epithet of Frigg. Here, beliefs of the Celtic Noricum played an additional role." deeeefinitely requires direct attribution to a reliable source making this observation, as well as mention of the primary source. In fact, the whole article is a jumble of synthesis and original research.
That said, putting together an article like this isn't difficult to do, and so I'll begin rewriting it with reliable sources. In the mean time, please refrain from bringing over poor, unsourced material from German Wikipedia. :bloodofox: (talk) 06:19, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be putting together a rewrite but will be reverting any and all unreferenced material added to this and any other page I encounter. Again, please do not add material without direct attribution to reliable sources. 16:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I notice that this is part of some sort of University translation project. Perhaps there would be a way to collaboratively correct the translation before it's added? See User:OberMegaTrans/WS2019/mythology. I assume that 's insistence is at least in part out of frustration after having done this for a class assignment.--Ermenrich (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I can take a look, but regardless of the reason behind why it's happening, we of course shouldn't be blindly translating poor material over from German Wikipedia. I'll give it anothr look. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , , thanks for your understanding! You're right, part of this was just frustration about our project being reverted. I, for one, would be happy to work with y'all on a full rewrite, if you'd like help. Otherwise sorry for the back and forth, and thanks for your commitment :) -- HeighHo talk 14:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated addition of unsourced material 

message: I've re-added the referenced content, on the grounds that the German article, although it doesn't give direct references for individual sentences, does contain an extensive list of literature that was used in its composition. Please feel free to correct any individual inaccuracies, but I see no reason to throw away all of our translated content on the grounds that it contains isolated factual mistakes. Any help with the rewrite would, of course, nevertheless be appreciated. -- HeighHo talk 16:4:I wil3, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:I'll be putting together a rewrite but will be reverting any and all unreferenced material added to this and any other page I encounter. Again, please do not add material without direct attribution to reliable sources. 16:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I notice that this is part of some sort of University translation project. Perhaps there would be a way to collaboratively correct the translation before it's added? See User:OberMegaTrans/WS2019/mythology. I assume that 's insistence is at least in part out of frustration after having done this for a class assignment.--Ermenrich (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I can take a look, but regardless of the reason behind why it's happening, we of course shouldn't be blindly translating poor material over from German Wikipedia. I'll give it anothr look. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , , thanks for your understanding! You're right, part of this was just frustration about our project being reverted. I, for one, would be happy to work with y'all on a full rewrite, if you'd like help. Otherwise sorry for the back and forth, and thanks for your commitment :) -- HeighHo talk 14:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-addition of referenced material