Talk:International adoption

message: This page seems to have been badly hit by adverts for adoption agencies.  Legitimate, licensed and registered agencies will already be listed on general adoption websites.  I'm adding the "Cleanup-spam" tag to the section and removing adverts for agencies, while leaving general adoption-related sites (not specific to a particular agency). Bastun 23:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Hasn't Ukraine recently stopped international adoptions?  Will check when I have more time and if it is the case, remove Ukraine from the agencies section. Bastun 21:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This report does not come up.  My wife and I have just went to the Ukraine and adopted a child.  I do not know what these comments are based upon.  Wikipedia should not be adding to the confusion.--Getaway 18:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, congratulations :-)  Second - the information was correct at the time (October 2005).  That link isn't working for me either, but this one explains the background.  International adoption rules and practices aren't static - for instance, my own country has just banned adoptions from Guatemala.  Editors can only go on the information available to them and I would strongly urge anyone involved in adoption not to rely on a general online resource.  Regards, BastunBaStun not BaTsun 19:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukraine

message: This section needs work. It doesn't actually contain any information about child trafficing. The claim about "impoverishment of the third world by rich nations by adopting poor nations’ children" doesn't have anything to do with child trafficing, and I question whether or not this does actually make poor nations more poor.--RLent 16:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Child Trafficing section 

message: Hi folks - 
the sections on impact of international adoption on a child's cultural awareness and sense of identity are worthy of thoughtful discussion and links. I hope to posta lot more in these section shortly. 
However, the links presented re: child trafficking) are better handled in a separate section devoted to that topic. Most international adopton is NOT child trafficking, but rather a process that is regulated both at the state, national,and now international level (Hague Treaty). To have the only external links go to legal research by 1 single attorney with the point of view that all international adoption is a cultural crime at best, and child trafficking at worst is just plain silly.
Also, speaking about what "countries" think of US adoption is silly. Countries do not have feelings -they eithr allow adoption or not. Clearly countires that allow internationla adoption have approved it as a legal and ethical process - so no need to tell us how large geographic territories feel. 
This whole article really needs a lot more facts that woudl be useful for researchers, prospective adoptive parents, and adoptees - and less agenda...
just my 2 cents,kopecks, centavos, etc... porkchop32
09:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  more facts, less polemic 

message: "International adoption refers to adopting a child from a foreign country. International adoption may offer a permanent family to a child (from a country other than that of the adoptive parents) whose birth parents have permanently terminated their parental rights."
Not all termination of rights is or was voluntary, sometimes a relative gives up the child, or the adoption agencies scam the parents into thinking it's only temporary and then say that the parent has given up the rights to their child. There are two specific cases I know where a grandmother sold her grandchild without the knowledge of her parents to an adoption agency. I also know a case where the adoption agency promised to take care of the child for a while, hold them until the parent was sure, but the time the parent came back the child was gone. So it's not always voluntary--idealistically it is, but realistically it isn't.
In addition, International adoptee redirects here, but this section has poor representation of what an adoptee is and what it's like to be adopted. It has theories, but lacks actual experiences. It's also Korean-heavy despite the fact that there are other countries of adoption, such as Russia, China (the leader these days) India, etc. It should be representative of the countries it's trying to present.
Topics to cover are issues of identity (links back to sociological studies of identity), cultural issues, and even finding out that the majority of countries hold the responsibility of raising a child by FAMILY not mother... also what I term reverse culture shock--that is being shocked into the culture they were adopted into and then being shocked back. I'd also like to see more on policies from countries that require keeping names, keeping cultural values, and additional requirements of international adoption. My own parents had to take lessons before adopting me in 1985. (from Korea)
Also something on those Korean culture camps which often emphasize separating one from their birth/natural parents and even give a false awareness of Korean culture should also be considered-- that is to present both sides for a NPOV. (i.e. do they help or hinder and both sides that argue this.) Other culture camps too.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 18:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

message: The part concerning the Hague convention seems extremely one sided and the citation is to an adoption agency, which doesn't contain the information in the article. I think the entire section concerning the downsides of the convention should be removed until a well informed and unbiased author can provide a less biased explanation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.198.203 (talk) 08:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with Hague Convention section

message: There are no examples about other countries adopting children. This article only gives numerous examples of the U.S. adopting children from various countries.  For example, do other countries ever adopt U.S. orphans?Jimhoward72 (talk) 21:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: This article only talks about U.S. adoptions

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message: Hello! Upon reviewing this article, I have a few edits I would like to make. The main thing that sticks out to me is the tone of the article seems to inject a bit of pathos that can appear to be taking a side on this topic. I'd like to make it a more neutral tone, along with some line editing so it is easier to comprehend and follow. I also think the are some repetitive sections that could use some cleaning. Additionally, I think removing the interracial adoption section of the lead would be a good move. It's good information, but I don't think it belongs in the lead. Finally, I'd like to potentially add a section about the effects of international adoption on the children and parents. It is a big adjustment for both parents and children, and I think it would be informative to touch upon. Colli3jp (talk) 04:58, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Edits 

message: Hello! I added the said changes to the article. Thank you! Colli3jp (talk) 06:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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