Talk:Timber rattlesnake

message: Since this is a strictly American species should the measurements be in standard and not metric? The Great White Hunter 00:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Standard? You mean imperial units.homo against that, firstly because virtually the entire scientific community favors the metric system, and secondly because using a single unit of measure for all these articles is better for overall consistency. Oh, and this species is also found in Canada. --Jwinius 01:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Broad accessibility and consistency can be achieved by adopting the inclusion of both systems as a standard practice.  This will also avoid the unnecessary alienation of millions of potential users.  Please understand, few American children are taught the metric system as the primary system of measurement and it is not regularly used in America outside of a few limited communities.  Most of us forget what little bit we have learned of the metric system a few moments after our last science class.  Respectfully submitted. Gwwiz (talk) 18:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. Done. A few limited communities? Oh, you probably mean our relatively small academic and engineering communities. Seriously, I find it really sad that the US continues to cling to the antiquated system of Imperial measures. But, it's not your fault. IMO, the fact that US public education is so poor likely has something to do with it. I know; I was there. --Jwinius (talk) 02:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an article on a specie of rattlesnake and your gratuitous attack on American education will not improve it. But, the country will be a better place as a whole if you continue to stay out, you arrogant ass.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.32.20.159 (talk) 14:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Measurement conversion

message: I removed a vague, inaccurate claim about venom, as there are many different possible components of venom, not just two. I also made a change to reflect that "rattlesnake" may describe TWO genii of snake—crotalus and sistrurus. Dick Clark 07:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of text

message: I want to suggest a merge of Crotalus horridus atricaudatus into this article, since that subspecies is not considered valid according to ITIS and there are no sign that it will ever make a comeback. --Jwinius (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: makes sense to me.  - Metanoid (talk, email) 05:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: I hope you don't mind that I made the word snake a Wiki jump link on this page? I'm reading along seeing how technical it's gotten, and I just want to make it a tad more small kid friendly? (You're an 8 year-old in Anarctica wondering what a snake is?) 66.82.9.108Magialuna (talk) 21:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but that makes no sense. Similar to linking colors. If you're an 8 year-old in Anarctica wondering what a snake is, this would surely not be the first page you'd start with. Also, maybe this would be a better place for kids. --Jwinius (talk) 00:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Link edit

message: Does the sentence "The type locality given is "America", although Schmidt (1953) proposed that this be restricted to "vicinity of New York City" (USA).[1]." seem odd to anyone else?
I don't have access to that source, but that seems like a peculiar statement...the timber rattler is spread throughout the country, and is certainly not limited to New York City....is that a thinly-veiled insult at the Big Apple?:)Can someone confirm that this is what the source actually says?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.65.34.246 (talk) 14:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the reference to NYC, lo, SIX years after it was added. The footnoted reference was not "Schmidt" as described in the body of the article. Appears to have been a failed attempt at humor at the expense of NYC and Wikipedia. Amazing that something like that could hang around that long.Tapered (talk) 05:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic Range 

message: C. horridus is definitely listed as "threatened" in Texas. TPWD are they guys who decide and that's what they say at
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/endang/animals/reptiles_amphibians/
I didn't change the page because it's not clear if the "citation needed" referred ONLY to Texas.
173.184.73.243 (talk) 16:43, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: While I have no actual proof, but Texas is near the extent of its range and assuming this means less of them in Texas that would give reason for it to be listed 'threatened' in Texas Tkent91 (talk) 06:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This information was removed by  It's now been added back in with proper citations. On a side note, these references were easily findable on official websites and probably could have been found before removing the info from this page entirely. Garchy (talk) 20:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your adding the sources. However, challenged material is supposed to be removed reasonably promptly. This was challenged in 2011. I search for sources often, but if the subject matter isn't in my wheelhouse -- and particularly has been in challenged state for more than a decade - removal is absolutely within policy. Anastrophe (talk) 20:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn’t talking about what is or isn’t “policy”, which on Wikipedia can really go either way - it’s really more about what’s helpful. Garchy (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It is also helpful to remove material that has remained in the encyclopedia in a challenged state for a very long time. The 'citation needed' tag exists for a reason. There were eleven years during which any other editor could have found a citation, upon coming across the 'citation needed' tag. When other editors fail to do so, challenged material is supposed to be removed. It should be removed. I've added thousands of citations in my time here, and removed thousands of unsourced claims. This is how Wikipedia works. In fact, my removal served its purpose: since this is a collaborative medium, the removal alerted you, piqued your interest. You found a source to back up the claim - just eleven years behind the ball. Again, I thank you for adding it. Removing unsourced claims is also critical to the project. IF Timber rattlesnakes were anywhere within my sphere of interest or expertise, I'd have made an effort to find a source. Lacking that, but presented with an absurd gap between challenge and today, I did what is both policy, and also good practice, in order to keep unverified material out of the encyclopedia. The system worked. Cheers. Anastrophe (talk) 02:10, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservation Status 

message: This article should note that in the coastal plain of the southeastern US, canebrake rattlers do not mate in the spring, they mate in August and September.  My husband was bitten by the female of a pair that were mating in late August (east central Georgia).  This is confirmed by the University of Georgia website srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/crohor.htm  They are more aggressive during this period.  I would hate for anyone to be bitten because they didn't know the danger is greater in late summer and early fall in our area.  Michele378 (talk) 02:09, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  gestation period for canebrake rattlers 

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