Talk:Gottlieb Daimler

message: this article was written by GOOGLING... I promise all the links will be uploaded Sunday or Monday... --Zzzzzzus 22:09, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: was left aside by the dynamic of the events... was a way to say that. --Zzzzzzus 15:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources 

message: Daimler's first true car had its chassis supplied by Christian Schmidt of Neckarsulm Radwerke.  Trekphiler 15:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: NSU automotive manufacture starting from 1905, before motorcycles, bicycles, 1873 as factory for cord machines of Christian Schmidt and Heinrich Scholl based, most important motorcycle factory of the world in the Vorkriegszeit 
So... are you meaning the first motorcycle (1885) or the modified stagecoach (1886) ???--Zzzzzzus 12:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neckarsulm Radwerke 

message: Digitallymade (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  These are suggested changes and corrections to improve this page 

message: This information is provided to correct errors and add facts and references to salient points.
=== First Section ===
Clarifying: In 1885 they designed a precursor of the modern petrol (gasoline) engine with they subsequently fitted to a two-wheeler, the first internal combustion motorcycle and, in the next year to a stagecoach, and a boat.
The first Daimler engine was created at Cannstadt in 1883.  It achieved the goal of high rpm, but was too large to be effectively used in an automobile due to it's horizontal cylinder arrangement.  The 1883 engine is called "Daimler's Dream." Ref: http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Chronik_1883_-_1900/en
The 1885 engine is the "grandfather clock" engine and it was installed in the first automobile which is the Petroleum Reitwagen.  This is considered the first Liquid Petroleum vehicle and is often called a motorcycle.  The next year the engine is installed in a coach.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitallymade (talk • contribs) 20:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2016 

message: Clarifying: In 1885 they designed a precursor of the modern petrol (gasoline) engine with they subsequently fitted to a two-wheeler, the first internal combustion motorcycle and, in the next year to a stagecoach, and a boat.
The first Daimler engine was created at Cannstadt in 1883.  It achieved the goal of high rpm, but was too large to be effectively used in an automobile due to it's horizontal cylinder arrangement.  The 1883 engine is called "Daimler's Dream." Ref: http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Chronik_1883_-_1900/en
The 1885 engine is the "grandfather clock" engine and it was installed in the first automobile which is the Petroleum Reitwagen.  This is considered the first Liquid Petroleum vehicle and is often called a motorcycle.  The next year the engine is installed in a coach.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitallymade (talk • contribs) 20:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Section 

message: The company that Gottleib Daimler founded merges with the company Karl Benz created.  On June 28, 1926 representatives of Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft (DMG) and Benz & Cie. signed the agreement for the merger of the two oldest automobile manufacturers in the world.  ref: http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/Merger-in-the-Year-1926-DMG-and-Benz--Cie-merge-to-become-Da.xhtml?oid=12358477
Digitallymade (talk) 21:29, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  1926 Merger forms Daimler-Benz AG

message: please change ((coach)) to ((Coach (carriage)|coach))
: thanks for the suggestion - Arjayay (talk) 16:59, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wilhelm Wimpff model ordered by Daimler was the "American" model.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitallymade (talk • contribs) 22:00, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Coach

message: In 1860 Lenoir ran his engines and experimental automobiles on both illuminating gas and on Hydrogen.  He built a car in 1862 that used a battery to electrolize water and then used the Hydrogen to run his engine.  He car would barely move, it was faster to walk.
Lenoir's engine was simply a steam cylinder and it was double acting being powered in both directions.
Otto's Engines prior to 1883 also ran exclusively on illuminating gas.  He liquid petroleum engines came later.
The fuel gasoline (or petrol) did not exist in 1883 when Daimler and Maybach created their first engine.  The fuel then was Petrol Naptha and it was sold under the brand name Ligroin.  Gasoline as a specific product, was standardized in 1908 by the United States Navy.  Prior to that the light fractions of petroleum used to fuel Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) had to be tested by they buyer for the specific gravity in order to ensure usability.  They were measured then by the Baum rating. A Handbook of the Petroleum Industry Vol I
Later it was discovered that simply measuring the specific gravity of the liquid ensured suitable combustion properties.
Digitallymade (talk) 21:59, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuel used in early engines is NOT gasoline. 

message: The section titled Early life to 1852 covered his life beyond 1882, not matching the section title. I extended Early life to include education ending in 1862, when he worked for a company full time. That is the start of his career, working for others. In 1882 he left Otto's company and worked independently on engine designs, so the text was merged into that section, with a new title. The Daimler Motors began with the Phoenix engine, so that section title was slightly revised. Text referring to a specific year was moved into that titled section. If wording is not smooth, or sources do not agree, I hope someone who has access to the sources will smooth out the text. --Prairieplant (talk) 12:08, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization of article 

message: Much more needs to be done. Right now it's a Frankenstein monster. Arminden (talk) 08:04, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  German to English 

message: In the Gottlieb Daimler#Grandfather clock engine (1885) section we have:
*An 1885 0.5 hp engine with a vertical cylinder built into the Reitwagen vehicle.
*An 1885 0.5 hp engine of 264 cc with a horizontal cylinder.
*An 1885 1 hp engine with a 100 cc vertical cylinder. It is not clear if the vertical cylinder replaces or augments the horizontal cylinder. Not clear if the total capacity is 100 cc, 364 cc (100+264) or 200 cc (100+100) although the article does say it is larger than the previous engine.
*A November 1885 engine of smaller capacity (compare to which 1885 engine?) which for the first time was fitted to the Reitwagen vehicle - as opposed to the other 1885 engine(s) fitted to the Reitwagen vehicle(s).
Frankly, I can't make heads or tails of how many engines, of what configuration (horizontal/vertical, single/twin cylinder), which ones were fitted to the Reitwagen or the date order of the engines. Any help would be appreciated.  Stepho  talk  02:58, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grandfather cock engine inconsistencies