Template talk:Historical

message: It'd probably be best to remove the category from this template, so that pages with this message can be added to subcategories of :Category:Wikipedia historical pages. -- Beland 06:10, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove the category

message: I am tagging some old pages in :Category:Wikipedia statistics with it, but I'd rather use a different wording, as unlike policies, surely there are many reasons stats should be updated as quickly and easily as possible. I am thinking about something like below, and perhaps incorporating something from :Template:Update?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  00:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Historical-stats-update]] ? 

message: I tend to agree with Centrx that the more concise wording is better. >Radiant< 09:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a suggestion for a better term, I'd be happy to hear it. >Radiant< 08:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording 

message: I get the impression that there are no particular rules about the utilization of this template. How much time should pass before a given proposal that hasn't been worked on and hasn't developed community support be marked as ?  12:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Well some guidlines for utilization are in order here. There are many similarities between this tag and  and because that is the case it is sensible that some ground rules be laid out about when to employ this template lest editors become unecessarily antagonized when faced with a page they've worked on suddenly being tagged as "historical".  12:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: **Yawn. I give you the answer you want and you respond by making snide remarks. Come back when you're interested in WP:CIVil discourse. >Radiant< 13:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: ***Snide? Wrong, just utilizing a good example of how mis-utilization of this type of template can foster contempt in other editors. Ergo, guidelines for usage are needed.  13:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guidelines for usage of this template?

message: I created this template for one of my subpages, but I thought it might be able to enjoy wider use (for old personal essays and such... I'm using it for my old RfA criteria that I no longer believe in.) Please improve it as you see fit. Grandmasterka 10:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Historical-User]] 

message: A page which is inactive can easily just be edited. Someone can edit it and make it active.--Angel David 01:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: It can't just drop out

message: Please take care to use this template for genuine housekeeping purposes. It should not be used as a means to prematurely close discussions or proposals unless there is agreement to do so amongst the participants. Improper use in this circumstance would be where one editor is attempting to control a debate by ending it without prior agreement.--Gavin Collins (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Improper use

message: There's no "Historical" section on WP:Policies and Guidelines.----occono (talk) 00:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here to report the same but found your comment. So, what's the update on this issue? --Siddhant (talk) 20:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The link is outdated. 

message: The /doc says:
:Pages using this template will be placed into :Category:Inactive project pages unless the parameter category=no is given: 
but when I read the source, it appears that it uses categories=no . Am I correct in my reading of the code? --DavidBiesack (talk) 12:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right. I've repaired the code. -- œ™ 23:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  category=no or categories=no ? 

message: The word "Historical" currently links to Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines#historical, but the WP:PG page doesn't contain a section titled "historical". What shall we do? --Theurgist (talk) 23:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: -- œ™ 22:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link 

message: Hello. Wikipedia is not a forum, therefore, the word "forum" should be changed to "talk page", with that link. Thanks in advance. 75.53.218.81 (talk) 19:32, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the template is using an older meaning of the word forum, a forum is any venue were discussion or decision making can take place. Wikipedia is not a forum only addresses the modern internet definition of forum, which is not the one being used in the template. In that light, the requested link would not be helpful, though perhaps it could use a better word given the potential for confusion. Monty845 05:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: Not a big deal, but letting y'all know. -- Kendrick7talk 01:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I ran into this just now as well.  I've taken a stab at fixing it.  --Chris (talk) 18:05, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment tag not working on user subpages 

message: I would like to propose that the background colour on this template be made more prominent. Currently the template is quite difficult to see, and not very prominent, as it is almost the same as WP's background. Making the colour more prominent would make the notice itself more prominent, which would be useful as it would more clearly visually indicate what pages are historical, and not get lost in a gaggle of other templates. This template is fairly widely used so I would like to hear the opinions of other users. 
Am not sure if there are any other users watching this page, but here goes. --LT910001 (talk) 09:49, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template colour 

message: Is there a parameter that allows the "try contacting the user in question" wording that appears on user subpages to be omitted? If not, is it worth adding such a thing?
Specifically, I want to use the template on User:Nageh/mathJax. The script described by that page is broken because our MediaWiki installation no longer supports a preference to leave TeX unparsed. Its use would not be desirable now that the MW-supplied MathJax is newer anyway. Nageh has retired, so he is no longer maintaining the script and should not be contacted. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 03:44, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parameter to disable "try contacting the user in question"? 

message: I have made a new parameter, "|type=woundup", for pages closed down by explicit community consensus. I thought that such a parameter might be useful, following a discussion that led to the deletion of :Template:Closed down. RGloucester  — ☎ 20:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New parameter 

message: Do we really want to direct people {granted, not many, though it just happened to me, which brought me here) to a defunct page via its formerly active connections with categories (for me, it was Category:Wikipedia page help)? If so, would this be something that could be automatically stripped out, or should this be a style point to add to this page's documentation? If not, should we rename such articles, adding "(defunct and historical)" to the title and describe this as a style point on the documentation?  Thanks! —Geekdiva (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that pages that have become inactive/defunct/historical should be renamed in that way as that could cause some confusion (e.g. if the redirect that is left behind is later turned into a page) and pointless discussions about which term to use. The best option re categorization is probably to use a category such as :Category:Inactive Wikipedia categorization pages. I don't think such changes could easily be done automatically. DexDor (talk) 14:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  On historical articles—remove other categories?  

message: Please add the line break and the 90% font per this consensus. Ups and Downs (↕) 07:07, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:15, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it in the sandbox, now what?  Ups and Downs (↕) 07:38, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

text: Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:13, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit protected request 

message: Would it be useful to include a parameter to link to some sort of 'most relevant active page' similar to Template:WikiProject_status#parent? It makes the page less of a dead end for users, especially if something similar is actually active. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 13:11, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parameter to suggest relevant active page? 

message: :Category:Inactive project pages says it's just for pages in the Project Namespace (i.e. Wikipedia). However, this template is being used on many pages in other namespaces (e.g. Template, Portal and even File and Category). Should this template be changed to only categorize pages in the Project Namespace? If not, then that category should be changed. DexDor (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Think easiest would be rename to :Category:Inactive pages.  Don't really need to spend much time re categorizing dead pages.--Moxy 🍁 02:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Namespaces 

message: I'm looking at some old database reports, and have noted that there's a significant number of old ones that aren't maintained. Some of these have  on them. The wording in the template isn't quite appropriate for database reports; this normally wouldn't be a huge issue, but there's quite a large number of them, so it occurred to me that maybe I ought to make a  that more accurately describes their status. However, in this template, I see there's already a switch for , so it would be quite simple to just add the appropriate language here (incorporating some of the language from ).
This is what I think it ought to say if  is supplied as dbr:
This database report is no longer updated, and is retained for historical reference.However, it may have been superseded by another report, or replaced with a maintenance or tracking category.To see currently maintained reports, consult the main database report page.If you would like a historical database report be run again, see the main database reports talk page.Other discontinued database reports can be found in the archive.
The wikitext for this, in the switch block, would be:
  |dbr=This database report is no longer updated, and is retained for historical reference.However, it may have been superseded by another report, or replaced with a maintenance or tracking category.To see currently maintained reports, consult the main database report page.If you would like a historical database report be run again, see the main database reports talk page.Other discontinued database reports can be found in the archive.</span>
Thanks! jp×g 05:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Elli (talk | contribs) 11:25, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add parameter for database reports 

message: Per its documentation, this template should not be used in mainspace, and checking just now, it (thankfully) has no transclusions there. I have  a change that will prevent it from displaying in mainspace, instead emitting a warning in preview. I'll plan to implement in a day or so if there are no concerns. Cheers,  talk 01:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detecting use in mainspace