Talk:1990s in fashion

message: I'm very surprised no one ever listed the overalls, I remember lots of kids wearing them up until early 2000's when my school banned them since they would easily fit a bomb in them. Oh and practically every show and commercial that featured kids/teenage girls overalls were at least a part of their wardrobe. - VampDeLeon  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VampDeLeon (talk • contribs) 23:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And some images. Gflores Talk 16:41, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 2011 comment 

message: I think it is virtually impossible to write an article like this.  What this article should be is simply a listing of some of the fashion trends that occurred during the 1990's and provide links to the Wikipedia article covering that trend.  Suggested items that are "90's fashion" ... rave wear, grunge, lounge, riot grrrl, hip-hop bling, The Rachel haircut, the waif look (Kate Moss), supermodels, implants (Pam Anderson), cleavage, Spice Girls, return of bell bottoms, flares, J. Crew, The Gap the list goes on.  Each of these can stake a claim as having been important to 90's fashion. Konky2000 18:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  also, the tendency of this article to provide specific dates for when certain trends began is somewhat ridiculous. The start of many of these trends is very regionally dependant, so acting as if it is a known fact that tie-dyed became popular again in 1988 is kind of crazy. Konky2000 18:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for Page organization 

message: what this article and the other ones on fashion history needs is some academic rigor and input. however it seems that the title late 1990's fin de siecle keeps on being deleted. is this because nobody understands it or is it considered too highbrow? 
at the moment these pages seem little more of a list of...then we wore red shoes, then we wore big braces, then the next teend was big buttons..etc. these seem to be no anaylsis or academic depth. what we dont need is every fashion trend that emerged in the 1990's, what this needs is clarity and unity.
your thoughts please. The heading fin de siecle could aply to american, european and eastern fashion developments during this period.Jocasta shadow 09:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: fin de siecle

message: The Paracute pants from the early 90's looked more like the pants worn by [[http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/image-6376.jpg|MC Hammer
]], not the ones used as a photo in the article.
Tim Kennelly
: Shrug.  I went to the link on Parachute pants and pulled over the image from there.  If the image does nto fit, please feel free to remove it.  I was just trying to satisfy a request for images.  Shrug.  I'm far from a fashion expert, and really only have this page watched because of some category work I was doing touched it many, many months ago. :) - TexasAndroid 20:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parachute Pants

message: I just added the original research tag on the article.  This article has a lot of good information, but has zero sources -- it seems to me that it's all original research, which is against Wikipedia policy.  Let's try to get this information sourced appropriately. Schi 19:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: I've added the globalize tag, as the article concentrates on North American fashions, not western fashions as the author suggests earlier on this page. The article contains many trends which barely existed outside North America. Also, some of these trends may have had different names in other countries.
Its fine to have an article about North American fashion in the 1990s, but the name would need to be changed to reflect this.
I agree that the sources need to be verified. Also, it would be useful for the article to state where these trends come from. For instance, in many cases they may have been popular among a subcultural movement, and then would have been championed by a a famous designer, which resulted in the trend becoming mainstream. Misspenny 09:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agreed.  If it's named "1990s in fashion", it should at least be mindful that it will eventually need to include fashion trends from around the world, not just Western or U.S. fashion trends (even if there's nobody interested in writing those sections right now).  If the article will never cover those other topics, then it should be changed to "1990s in Western fashion" or "1990s in U.S. fashion".  --Interiot 12:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Globalize tag

message: The article is not a bad start to the fashion or clothing styles of the 1990s at least in the United States and to some extent 1990s western fashion in general.  There needs to be more sources, but the fashion trends mentioned are in fact well known for the era. Azalea pomp 21:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a bad start

message: I just added a reference tag. Not one cited statment in the whole article right now. Plus I can't get over how much it looks and sounds like original research as well. --Xiahou 01:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference tag

message: I don't know where to start. The article needs an absolute and complete rewrite. Its one giant heap of unsourced original research sounding fluff. The topic is desereved of an article so deletion isn't an option yet I don't know where to begin to fix it. I feel like going through and adding {fact} tags after just about every generalized statment. Peakcock words you name it. Any help on where to begin on this. Without some kind of sourced foundation I am stuck. --Xiahou 21:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the the sentence/statement before it needs some citation. --Xiahou 00:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: train wreck

message: To me this section is the most problematic of the entire article. There was, to my recollection, a revival of late 70s/disco style fashions 1996 with orange and yellow shirts, shiny collared shirts for men, floral print blouses for women, white and brightly coloured flared-leg pants, flared-leg jeans, platform shoes/chuky heels, ect. Think of the clothes that Scott Weiland (lead singer of Stone Temple Pilots) wore in the Stone Temple Pilots video for their song Big Bang Baby as an example of this look (though there were other varieties of this look as well). This look is seperate from the Hippy Revival styles from earlier in the 90s, even though the hippy era styles originally straddled the boundary between the late 60s and early 70s.
The way the 70s revival section is written, it doesn't make the distinction between the hippie and disco styles, and seems to imply that the disco inspired fashions were coming back into style in the early 90s. Maybe they were on the runways, but not on the streets from my recollection. I have a problem with fashion histories that claim a certain look was "in style" when the only place it could be found was on the runways at high end fashion shows, and among the select cricles of people who buy these clothes.
Librarylefty 09:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 70s Revival

message: Another problem with this article is for example within the united states it takes trends time sometimes a year or more to make its way to the midwest. Often Ive seen on tv when something is supposedly in and popular on the coasts its not even in stores in the great plains yet. So putting years for times when something is popular you are saying its popular but not where and to whom.  Or saying when it went out when others still think its popular. Heck isn't the word popular relative? Also 
Should the title be Western Europe and US fashions. What countries follow this fashion or follow their own which with such a broad title could legit be added. Another problem for a troubled article.
--Xiahou 23:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spread of fashion

message: This article should mention the rise of the kinderwhore/babydoll dress fashion that occurred in the 90's. However briefly it was in style, it is relevant enough to get a mention because of its relationship with the riot grrrl movement and the rise of aggressive female rock bands in the 90's (also, some designers created clothing inspired by the kinderwhore look), so it holds some cultural importance. Blackmorningsun 04:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: advent of "Babydoll"

message: My understanding is that the "Rachel" cut was the haircut worn by Jennifer Aniston during the first two seasons of the sitcom Friends (1994-1995, 1995-1996), in her role as Rachel. Another user, Patpooch2, removed the sentence about the "Rachel" cut, claiming that the term refers to the haircut that Jennifer Aniston had in 1999-2000. I have reverted his edit, as I believe I have read about the "Rachel" cut being the earlier cut. If Patpooch2 or anyone else has information to the contrary, I would invite them to bring it forward.
Librarylefty 23:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Rachel" Cut

message: ::Grunge photos are desperately needed for this article. Doesn't anyone out there have a grunge photo of themselves or friends they can upload to this article?--jeanne (talk) 15:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grunge images are needed

message: ::Please, first discuss it here on the talk page before removing large chunks of text. I had to revert an entire section whch somebody had removed from the article. Thanks.--jeanne (talk) 08:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of text

message: Why is there no section on Hip Hop Fashion? Hip Hop had a huge influence on fashion throughout the decade.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.98.142 (talk) 07:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hip Hop 

message: Goth fashion branched out of punk fashion in the early '80s, and has evolved since. A commercialized version - so-called "Hot Topic goth" - was popular for a while in the '90s, and it was this commercialized version that morphed into/gave way to the "emo" and "scene" trends. This style rose and died relatively independently of the actual goth scene, which has been toddling onward in relative obscurity for decades now. The bands listened to by these high school "Hot Topic goths" weren't goth bands, and the kids generally weren't involved in the goth club scene at all.
The article needs to be fixed to reflect this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.75.31 (talk) 01:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goth was not invented in the '90s! 

message: (Youth Fashion, Mid 1990s)
"dark colors like maroon, forest green, indigo, brown, white and black"
White's a dark color? ;)
Dave Andrew (talk) 01:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark colors 

message: Can we PLEASE lock this page to stop the idiots vandalising it? We had similar problems with 2000s in fashion  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osama57 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOCK THIS PAGE! 

message: This article is labeled as dealing with "fashion," but deals exclusively with Western fashion; therefore I have added the globalize template.  The article expressly limits itself to Western fashion in the intro paragraph, but this is not consistent with the title.  Older articles about "fashion" also limit themselves to Western fashion, apparently on the basis that fashion was mostly a Western thing during those periods, but this practice is not justifiable in recent periods.  Articles about "fashion" in the late 20th century need to be global in scope. Elliotreed (talk) 18:55, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globalize template 

message: I think it would be far easier and wiser to minimize the title rather than make this an article about global fashion trends in the 90's. An article of that sort would be untenably long. 1990s fashion trends in America would be a much better title. Bali88 (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for name change

message: All recent Wikipedia decade-fashion sections (especially those about the 90's, 00's and 10's) seem to display the ugliest versions of each trend. (This applies to most photos, not all, of course.) If it is a vest, the photo will portray someone wearing the ugliest possible vest one could have found at the time; if it is a haircut, the person in the photo will sport the dorkiest version of that haircut (prime example: the undercut-cum-mustache guy in this section); if it is a dress, the photo will show the dress styled in the most awkward, unfashionable way; etc. Showing the dorkiest/ugliest/most awkward incarnation of past trends is hardly representative of the fashion of a period. I am old enough to remember that people and their clothes did not look as terrible as portrayed on Wikipedia. For curiosity, does it have something to do with copyright? Like, all decent photos are copyrighted? --95.89.27.247 (talk) 12:49, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's with the ugly clothes? 

message: How could anyone forget to mention teashades??!! Sure, they were more popular in the 60-70's, but made a comeback in the 90's, especially with movies such as Leon, and a bunch of contemporary musicians rockin' 'em!--92.114.148.141 (talk) 08:39, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teashades! 

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