Talk:Death Valley National Park

message: there is also danger in these parks. Danger that people can control.
Was there really a past lake at Badwater called "Recent Lake"?  I've searched for a reference, but all I've found are mirrors back to this wikipedia article -- or phrases along the lines of "the most recent lake in Death Valley...".  USGS's GNIS has no entry for a "Recent Lake".  Also casting doubt:  isn't the convention for naming no-longer-extant lakes to begin them with the word Lake (as in Lake Manly)?  -- ScottMainwaring, 20:06, 1 December 2005 
:In the absence of any verifiable source for this, I removed the reference to "Recent Lake". --ScottMainwaring 17:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Lake?

message: Didn't Death Valley use to be a national monument? - Montréalais
isn't it still...hold on I'll ck, nope, not as far I can tell--dgd
:Yes it was at one time a national monument but was promoted to nationalparkhood 1994. --mav
The various topics in the descriptions of resources (history, geology, mining, ranching, rock art, botany, wildlife, as well as horses and burros,) are virtually ignored for 40 % of the park -- those areas added to the Park in 1994.  Only the northern 1/3 of Panamint Valley is within the Park, but All of Saline Valley, and nearly all of Eureka Valley are also in the Park.  There are four distinct dune systems inside the new boundaries: Eureka Dunes, Saline Valley Dunes, Panamint Dunes, and Ibex dunes.  The Saline Valley has a large thermal springs area.  The geology and mining history needs updating with information on Crater. The botanic province, and the importance of expansive wildflower blooms that bring traffic jamming numbers of visitors in the spring were ignored.      
The Racetrack is named for the natural movement of ROCKS across the dry lake bed (one of which can be seen in a photo)  Recent research has revealed that specific weather combinations of temperature, water or precipitation on the lake bed, and wind can cause unexpectedly rapid movements of the rocks. Cdpl94 (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Designation?

message: According to , they used Immmigrant Canyon (which would explain the name), and  says that some of them used Towne Pass (named after the Towne party?). Is there a source for Wingate Pass? --NE2 02:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wingate Pass part deleted. --mav (talk) 00:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Death Valley '49ers left via Wingate Pass?

message: The below text needs to be cleaned-up and cited before it is put back into the article. --mav (talk) 00:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telephone history 

message: This para needs inline citations added before it is put back into the article. --mav (talk) 00:30, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timbisha place names within the Park 

message: The intro is ambiguous and somewhat misleading. "Death Valley National Park is the most arid United States National Park located east of the Sierra Nevada..."
Should be changed to "Death Valley National Park is a mostly arid United States National Park. Located east of the Sierra Nevada..."  the sentence is disjointed and may imply that it is only arid compared to other regions east of the sierra nevada.
:Intro sentence broken up now. --mav (talk) 03:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: Changed "Teapot Junction" to "Teakettle Junction," this is a well-known spot.JPAnalog (talk) 06:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends on the condition of the road, which is dependent on the time since the last grading, recent weather and the number of vehicles using the road. Given all that, sometimes a particular dirt road is passable by a regular car but other times even 4x4s have a hard time. What a visitor needs to do is ask a ranger before going on any dirt road to find out about current conditions. I too have made the bumpy trip to the Racetrack in a regular car just fine and another time I got a flat in a SUV on the same road after a very, very rough trip. --mav (reviews needed) 00:51, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Geographic Setting

message: is the panorama of the night sky in Death Valley a true representation of what can be seen by eye there? Or is it enhanced in some way? 74.128.56.194 (talk) 05:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See the description on the NASA page for more info. Vsmith (talk) 13:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't overlook the fact that a 360, panoramic view, distorts perspective. The human eye would see the Milky Way differently. But maybe that's already understood.  –droll [chat] 00:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Night Sky 

message: The article claimed that Pyrex bakeware is make borosilicate glass. This is only partially true. Today, household Pyrex products sold in the United States, including bakeware and measuring cups, are made of tempered soda-lime glass. See the Pyrex article. It says that European Pyrex branded household products are still made of borosilicate glass. Evidently, Pyrex branded laboratory glassware is also borosilicate glass. –droll [chat] 05:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Pyrex glassware 

message: This 4th of July weekend, I traveled with my family to Las Vegas and made a stop in Death Valley. Temperature was hovering around 117 degrees in the Valley. It would be good to see a section in this article that talks about travel in the extreme temperature. My RV broke down in the extreme heat and it was our good luck that we were near the Furnace Creek.  TomPaul67 (talk) 06:35, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep - Last time I was there was in July and I got a flat tire on a dirt road 15 miles from pavement and no cell signal. At least it was *only* just above 100 and it was just a single flat. Also good to note (if a RL can be found for it) would be that some tourists go there in July/August in large part to experience the extreme heat. --mav (reviews needed) 00:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section for travelers who travel in the Summer months 

message: The WMO (World Meteorological Organization) this morning de-certified the record for the world's highest surface temperature, held for 90 years by El Azizia, Libya. The now official hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth was the 56.7°C (134°F) reading taken at Furnace Creek (née Greenland Ranch) in Death Valley on July 10, 1913, should someone wish to adjust this page. http://wmo.asu.edu/, and http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89 75.147.156.165 (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Valley is now officially the hottest place on Earth 

message: I added a sentence about the October 2015 flood event, which is apparently the biggest in recorded history in Death Valley and caused major damage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leavit2stever (talk • contribs) 23:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  October 2015 flood event 

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message: Salt Creek Interpretive Area features one of several populations of desert pupfish in the Park. A raised boardwalk parallels the creek; restrooms in the parking area only.  Display boards describe the species and its unique history.   In addition to these pupfish in the bottom of Death Valley, there are nearby populations of pupfish along the Amargosa River in Shoshone, at Saratoga Springs near the southern boundary, in Ash Meadows National Wildife Refuge, and famously at  Devil's Hole, in Nevada, a part of the original National Monument. The endangered Devil's Hole pupfish population, is sensitive to ground water level changes and regularly monitored by a "Death Valley Scuba Dive Team".  Devil's Hole is completely surrounded by the expanded Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge; however, pupfish management is still overseen by Death Valley National Park.Cdpl94 (talk) 02:11, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Valley's Pupfish and Devil's Hole 

message: on Jul 26, Furnace Creek hit 124.3 deg F at 4pm local time. The record for hottest temperature in the world is here. Death Valley National Park is still open with extreme heat warning alert. 
see link Meso West
For extreme heat warning alert, forecast 110 deg F see NPS Death Valley
Stay cool! SWP13 (talk) 01:53, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Furnace Creek in Death Valley, CA hit 124.3 deg F on Jul 26 

message: I'm about to revert the newly created section on Accidental Deaths. Here's why:
*I reverted the list of deaths, as it is innapropriate to individually list hundreds of deaths unless a death is somehow notable. For example, under Grand Canyon, the only individually listed event was a plane crash that killed 128 people, and which has its own article.
*The specified source did NOT say many deaths are due to heat. It may very well be true, but is unsourced -- and car crashes cause the most deaths. Thus, I reverted this portion.
*Neither the average temperature, nor the average maximum temperature, reaches 120 F. Again, unsourced. Thus, I reverted this portion.
I'm not sure if a section on fatalities is a good idea. In any case, it would be undue to spend more than a few sentences on it, and would require sources that provide an overview.  --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 23:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of "Accidental Deaths" section 

message: This article can be expanded on the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe. Their page includes that with the establishment of the park they were not allowed to summer in the mountains despite the adobe dwelings built for them lacked AC or even basic utilities. Colonial Computer 01:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native American Tribe