Talk:Harper's Magazine

message: Neither the awards and honors nor the history of harpers link currently lead to their respective PDFs. Unfortunately I couldn't find them in a brief search either. Would be great if someone could change the links to wherever the PDFs have been relocated. 62.178.166.85 (talk) 10:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there was an interruption: "By the late 1890s the Saturday Evening Post was in serious financial difficulties. In October, 1897, the newspaper was purchased for $1,000 by Cyrus H. Curtis, the owner of the Ladies' Home Journal. The Saturday Evening Post was redesigned and on January, 1898, reappeared as a journal." (source: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAsaturday.htm and can be backed up by http://www.satevepost.org/mediakit/history.html) 128.119.103.234 06:53, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The introductory sentence should be expanded a bit:
:Harper's Magazine (or simply Harper's) is a ????????????? monthly magazine, published in the United States.
I am not very familiar with the mag, having read only a few random articles linked from various sites, so I don't have a good image of what HM is, but users more familiar with Harper's should be able to summarize in 1-3 words what is important/notable about it and add it instead of the question marks above. Paranoid 12:53, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect the reversion was in error. Nrets 01:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Neoliberalism" is not the same thing as "leftist" or "progressive" or even just plain old "liberal". Harper's definitely does not take a neoliberal perspective. (The edit wasn't vandalism though.) --Birdmessenger 10:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are entirey correct, neoliberalism is something entirely different, somehow I missed the "neo" part completely. I think simply "liberal" or "progessive left" as you suggest are fine. Nrets 13:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: I'm not going to post a copyvio on this, though I am going to post an RfC, as I think this could be salvaged by a rewrite by someone familiar with this publication. The current text borrows a tad too directly from . == Cecropia | explains it all ® 00:47, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You seem to be asking for a legal opinion.  RfC is not the appropriate place for that -- you'll get plenty of armchair lawyers, but probably not anyone with actual legal experience. --Carnildo 04:14, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, actually no. IANAL but I've been involved in intellectual property issues in my work for years. The problem is that parts of the article are clearly copyvios, quoting big parts of the original verbatim and apparently without permission or attribution. But there is significant added material, and I'm trying to see if we can get agreement on a rewrite rather than throw the whole thing out. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 05:03, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You still seem to be asking for a legal opinion, on whether or not everything since the edit that added the copyvio material is considered a "derivative work" of the copyvio. --Carnildo 06:19, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have rewritten the text in response to the concerns Cecropia raised. -- Viajero 13:29, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: Lapham is leaving in April, so I believe that it is actually the April issue that will be his last. --Birdmessenger 00:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I just saw the NYT piece (jeez, Wikipedia beat them to the story!) that says March 2006 was his last.--Birdmessenger 00:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The April 2006 issue is out now; Lewis Lapham's name is still atop the masthead as editor and his "Notebook" column is still in its usual place.  I'm therefore removing the info about March 2006 being his final issue as editor. --Birdmessenger 20:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 2006 issue as Lapham's last-is this correct? 

message: Is it really relevant that a blog favoured the article? Is there any reason to mention the support of this particular blog, other than its official-sounding name? Thes entinel 17:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly disagree. Harper's decision to publish that article was and will remain quite notable.  While it may or may not be a good idea to include a description of every poorly received publishing decision, surely the ones that generate the most controversy warrant mention in a general article about the publication. I wouldn't object to trimming the discussion of other reactions though, perhaps by deleting the last sentence of that paragraph.--Birdmessenger 23:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AIDS Denialism Article 

message: Somewhere the article should explain the relationship between this magazine, the former [[Harper's Weekly], and the fashion magazine Harper's Bazaar.  I would do so if I knew enough, but really don't.  Rlquall 15:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationships 

message: Here is the grand total of Celia slamming:
"Farber's favorable presentation of virologist Peter Duesberg's argument that there is no direct link between HIV and AIDS garnered mostly criticism among AIDS activists[5] and others[6]. As a result, the Treatment Action Campaign Web site, a South African group campaigning for greater access to HIV treatment, posted a 37-page rebuttal written by eight prominent AIDS researchers documenting over 50 errors in Farber's article, claiming it contains misleading implications, false statements, and implications without evidence of sinister motives.[7] [8]."
After all this, apparently, one simple solitary link is just too much for "Nrets" to tolerate in this article:
"A partial rebuttal to Gallo's response can be found here."
Give me a break. Revolver 03:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Revolver that as the paragraph stands now, a single opposing link from an authoritative source is appropriate, given that multiple links are provided to sources that argue against AIDS reappraisal.  However, I'd like to see the entire paragraph focus less on a back and forth of AIDS reappraisal and more on the controversy generated by the publication of that article (if there's a difference).--Birdmessenger 12:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's my point, the link provided by Revolver basically is a link to an article which basically restates the content of the Farber article.  I do agree with User:Birdmessenger that this pargraph should really focus on reaction to the article, not a rehash of the AIDS-rebuttal "debate". It seems like Revolver uses every excuse as a plattform to espouse his viewpoints about AIDS reappraisal. Then, when he is called on it, accuses everyone of censorship. My goodness! Nrets 13:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nrets 

message: There is a difference between magazines publishing articles on controversial subjects and a magazine or an article itself actually being the subject of a controversy. For example, the third example given, Lapham's fictionalized account of the RNC, resulted in Lapham writing a latter of apology, so it makes sense for that example to be in a "Controversies" section, because the article was the subject of a controversy.
Controversies being the subject of an article, however, are different. I see no reason for Milgram's research to be in this section, anymore than the fact that Harpers publishes articles on abortion. Likewise Velikovsky's book should not be listed, unless it was Larrabee's article itself that was the subject of the controversy.
I'm being bold and removing these two examples, and anhy new examples should be similarly examined.  — Asbestos 19:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversies" 

message: Someone claiming to be Norman Mailer's archivist says that, despite what this article asserts, Mailer did not write a 1963 story for Harper's called "The Witch of Westport". There may be something to this. The assertion that Mailer did write such a story rests only on an unsourced anonymous edit. A number of other web sites cite an A&E biography as the source for Mailer's authorship of the story -- but they may be following the samed unsourced assertion in the Bewitched article. Considering that Harper's offers the complete table of contents for all of its 1963 issues, and "The Witch of Westport" is nowhere to be found, I don't think this rumor is credible.
"The Witch of Westport" does seem to have been the original name given to the scripts which were produced as the Betwitched television show, but I can't find a basis for asserting either Mailer's authorship or publication in Harper's. -- Shunpiker (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Witch of Westport" 

message: I think we can agree the magazine today is left leaning. Some of the articles to me seem more extreme than your average Labour party or whathaveyou platform. Wouldn't that be far left? What source might we use or this characterisation? I don't think it is overly important but equally well I don't think the label of far left would be unfair, misleading or make anyone uncomfortable. From what I've seen the articles cover a wide range of topics and perspectives, from centrist to Marxist. Obotlig (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left-wing or far left 

message: I like the addition of the cover gallery. Does anyone have any interesting covers they could scan?  Filling it out with 4 or 8 notable ones would be nice, or with art from inside. Thanks. Obotlig (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover Gallery 

message: This article jumps from the 1850's to the 1960's (I believe) and leaves out huge hunks of history of this magazine.  For instance Harper's was one of the most important magazines during the Civil War in the United States. Nothing is mentioned of this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Residentfan (talk • contribs) 01:23, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good project. Feel free to fill in the gap. Obotlig (talk) 01:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: More like THIRD! Town and Country is second, since it began publishing in 1846. See their article for verification.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.227.185.76 (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, . What an innocent statement you have made. Of course there are many house styles and they fall under a very serious undertaking named WP:MOS. If one peeks at any of the talk pages: WT:MOS there is a dreadful phrase:  One either names these keepers the style police and avoids as much allergic interaction as possible or ventures into their world and thereafter lives an otherworldly life as Alice. So for your inquiry, I agree on the face of it and I trust MOS would agree, being proper editors, all. The problems in not following this are readiliy apparent: all the other Harpers from ferries to weeklys, to trade publications, to bazaar, that perhaps might be commonly shortened to Harper's. Moreover, if we are anything as an encyclopedia, we are not common. I am going to notify you by 'ping' and I hope you notice it, but I imagine you will be watching this talk page. I will now look at the article...I am not going to reset the answer template yet but will return (this is on my watchlist). There is a miniscule chance someone else might discover this, especially since I have commented.   Fylbecatulous talk 15:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Second oldest continually publishing magazine-?

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message: I am posting this message on behalf of Harper's Magazine to the volunteer editors who maintain this, as well as other, Wikipedia pages. It is my understanding that there is not a house style, since, as is stated by Wikipedia, "Wikipedia does not have a centralized author or content reviewer." However, in the case that I am mistaken and there is a house style, or if there are volunteer editors who operate as if there were, I would like to kindly request that our magazine only be referred to by its actual and legal name: Harper's Magazine. And not: Harper’s. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. It is much appreciated.— Preceding unsigned comment added by VerifiedInformationMatters (talk • contribs) 18:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, . What an innocent statement you have made. Of course there are many house styles and they fall under a very serious undertaking named WP:MOS. If one peeks at any of the talk pages: WT:MOS there is a dreadful phrase:  One either names these keepers the style police and avoids as much allergic interaction as possible or ventures into their world and thereafter lives an otherworldly life as Alice. So for your inquiry, I agree on the face of it and I trust MOS would agree, being proper editors, all. The problems in not following this are readiliy apparent: all the other Harpers from ferries to weeklys, to trade publications, to bazaar, that perhaps might be commonly shortened to Harper's. Moreover, if we are anything as an encyclopedia, we are not common. I am going to notify you by 'ping' and I hope you notice it, but I imagine you will be watching this talk page. I will now look at the article...I am not going to reset the answer template yet but will return (this is on my watchlist). There is a miniscule chance someone else might discover this, especially since I have commented.   Fylbecatulous talk 15:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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