Talk:Curtis (50 Cent album)/Archive 2

message: Realest4Life and I (Ayoleftyz a.k.a. egeiz) have edited the pages accordingly because of to much speculation. "I Get Money" was released July 30th as confirmed by Def Sounds in the June 26th issued article.http://www.defsounds.com/news/view/1889-5-cent-adds-to-curtis-rumored-promo-campaign-begins-for-eminem-s-upcoming-lp.html In this article they also state "Follow My Lead" will be the next single EXPECTED to be released July 1st but please note it says expected, so it could be early July or in the coming week. Also in a newer article they state "She Want It" will be the next official single (third) so we will run with that for now as it's newer but "Follow My Lead" could be instead.http://www.rapbasement.com/content/view/3018/35/ Even though "I Get Money" is noted as a single on the Myspace bulletin it is not confirmed whether it will be on Curtis or not, just a image with "NEW SINGLE", who it's produced by (Scott Boogie) and the Curtis release date. With that said, we have made the single a non-album single since Def Sounds confirms it will be not on the album. Until more develops please leave the page as edited. There is just simply too much speculation as of now to confirm it on the album.
--Egeiz 18:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "I Get Money" removed from ''Curtis'' track listing and more details

message: on his myspace page he confirms it is a album single.
50 Cent myspace page
--Prisonbreak12345 14:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a promotional single, a NON-ALBUM SINGLE, we even gave a source. What the hell is up with people not being able to read? --- Realest4Life 14:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You guys never heard of non-album singles, promotional singles? I went to his MySpace, it only says it is a new single, it was released to create a buzz. However, we have a source that confirms that "I Get Money" is a non-album single, we have it mentioned in the article. --- Realest4Life 14:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

text: All right man, as soon as 50 Cent confirms it will be on the album, add it. Peace. --- Realest4Life 13:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I Get Money is an album sigle on curtis album

message: I've got this song. Has 50 released it or has it been leaked?
BTW: It's HOT.
A Khan 14:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been leaked. --- Realest4Life 14:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I am the "fuck" which is removing your MySpace link. You are not allowed to promote for the song, and certainly not promote for your own MySpace. If you use language like that again, a block will most likely be waiting for you. --- Realest4Life 02:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: If I'm not mistaken, I could easily report you. Also, then why the hell do you always add that particular MySpace as a source? Even if it wasn't yours, you are not allowed to promote for the song, because whether you admit it or not, adding links to watch the video, with links that say  "WATCH THE VIDEO FOR FREE HERE!!!" is not allowed here. --- Realest4Life 12:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note, even if you didn't say that last part, it still would not be allowed. --- Realest4Life 12:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: and please tell me why this is acceptable --Breakout 02:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: You are right, that is not acceptable, so I removed that link. Sorry if I was rude, please accept my apologies as that was not what I intended. --- Realest4Life 03:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: i apologize also--Breakout 18:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: She Wants It - 50 Cent ft Justin Timberlake (produced by Timbaland)

message: can someone who knows how to do it do it? last time i tried some bot or something complained to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Breakout (talk • contribs) 
:I'm not sure what you mean by clean-up. The article is already at a pretty good standard considering we don't even know the track listing yet, 50 Cent makes constant changes (renames it like 5 times, releases non-album singles unexpected, controversy regarding the production of songs, now is working on three more songs, etc.), and this page is one of the top 100 most viewed pages on Wikipedia, with about 1200 views a day, so we revert the vandalism and unsourced statements pretty quickly. I don't know how much better it can get. The formatting is good, and as soon as the album is leaked and everything, we can probably take the album up to a "Start" level, instead of "Stub" level. --- Realest4Life 13:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, I changed the title of this section, so there wouldn't be two sections with the same name. --- Realest4Life 13:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Please give an example, then we can see if it is appropriate to remove the statements or not. --- Realest4Life 03:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: What deletion tab are you talking about? --- Realest4Life 13:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: You mean in the talk page? You don't get rid of that, that will soon be archived, you don't remove it. See Wikipedia:Talk page I believe for more information on this. --- Realest4Life 23:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I believe you want to read this Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#When pages get too long also. --- Realest4Life 00:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-Up (July 2007)

message: dont delete my comment lol im just sick of this site having fake information, She Wants It is not the title of the new track, its called AYO Technology, it says on 50 cents Myspace its on there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.108.63 (talk • contribs) 
:I am trying to get the song moved to its actual title now. --- Realest4Life 13:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --- Realest4Life 14:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AYO Technology

message: The title of the song, as told by 50 Cent is actually "I Get It" in which he confirms in his latest radio interview with Funk Flex. He also confirms the title is indeed "AYO Technology," but I see that has been corrected. Even though it is titled "I Get Money" on his Myspace and in the released Promo CD, it may be incorrect but I think 50 Cent could also be the incorrect here. Here is a link to the interview and he states it at 5:27 in the audio clip titled, "I don't want to be the president of any label/BET Awards. Let me know what you guys think and what we should do, I moved the page earlier but moved back since the Promo CD clearly says "I Get Money". --Ayoleftyz 11:06, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the CD says "I Get Money", then it is "I Get Money". --- Realest4Life 13:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sir, yes sir lmao. --Ayoleftyz 12:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: lol. --- Realest4Life 13:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "I Get It", not "I Get Money"?

message: How reputable is that source haha? Looks pretty fake to me. --Ayoleftyz 22:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My thoughts exactly. It is obviously only a rumour, but the source is there, and until someone can confirm that The Game will not be on the album (which should only take a few more days), leave it here. --- Realest4Life 23:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

text: No, probably not. It is obviously only a rumour, however, the source is there, so I guess we should just wait until 50 Cent or The Game deny it themselves. --- Realest4Life 02:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Great, I already removed the rumour. --- Realest4Life 21:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Game and 50 Cent beef over?

message: Good job to everyone that helped bring this article from a "Stub" class to a "Start" class. --- Realest4Life 02:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good job

message: Hi, I think that "I Get Money" should be removed from the "Confirmed Tracks" section because it is not an album single. Or maybe we could have:
====Confirmed tracks====
The following tracks were confirmed by 50 Cent.50 Cent – 50 on 106 and Park. G-Unit World. Accessed July 14 2007.Shaheem Reid (May 25 2007). 50 Cent's Curtis Release Pushed to September. MTV. Accessed July 14 2007.Shaheem Reid (April 27 2007). 50 Cent Talks Timberlake Collabo, Star-Studded New LP Curtis. MTV. Accessed July 14 2007.Tim Kash (June 4 2007). Is 50 Leaving Interscope?. MTV. Accessed July 14 2007.BJv (May 9 2007). Second Dr. Dre track confirmed for 50's Curtis. Dr. Dre Fans. Accessed July 14 2007.
Title                 	Producer(s)       	Featured guest(s)              	Time
"All of Me"           	Jake One          	Mary J. Blige                  	
"Amusement Park"      	Dangerous LLC     	                               	3:15
"AYO Technology"      	Timbaland         	Justin Timberlake & Timbaland  	4:06
"Come & Go"           	Dr. Dre           	Eminem                         	
"Fire"                	Dr. Dre           	Nicole Scherzinger & Young Buck	
"Follow My Lead"      	Tha Bizness       	Robin Thicke                   	
"Fully Loaded Clip"   	Havoc             	                               	3:14
"I'll Still Kill"     	Akon              	Akon                           	
"Peep Show"           	Eminem            	Eminem                         	
"Straight to the Bank"	Dr. Dre & Ty Fyffe	                               	3:12
"Touch the Sky"       	The Neptunes      	Tony Yayo                      	
====Non-Album tracks====
Title        	Producer(s) 	Featured guest(s)	Time
"I Get Money"	Scott Boogie	                 	3:46
No, because in an interview with XXL, he confirmed that it will be on the album. See the "I Get Money" page. --- Realest4Life 14:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, right OK I didnt know that. --The-G-Unit-Boss 17:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. --- Realest4Life 17:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I Get Money

message: Title        	Producer(s) 	Featured guest(s)	Time
"I Get Money"	Scott Boogie	                 	3:46
No, because in an interview with XXL, he confirmed that it will be on the album. See the "I Get Money" page. --- Realest4Life 14:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, right OK I didnt know that. --The-G-Unit-Boss 17:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. --- Realest4Life 17:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Album tracks

message: Jake One was never confirmed as the producer for "All of Me" and neither were The Neptunes for "Touch the Sky" or "Movin' on Up". If you have a reputable source, please post and they will be re-added. --Ayoleftyz 16:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Production

message: He was on BET and they asked him to debate Kanye West on who had a better album on live TV. He agreed to the debate, however Kanye did not. Then he came out with a statement saying "Let's raise the stakes. If Kanye West sells more records than 50 Cent on September 11, I'll no longer perform music. I'll write music and work with my other artists, but I won't put out any more solo albums. They would like to see Kanye West give me a problem because I've worked myself into a space where I've become the favorite. Everybody roots for the underdog when he goes against the favorite. And I bet this: When Kanye West's sales come in, he's gonna have a 70 percent decrease cause Def Jam is gonna buy records the first week to keep him closer to 50 Cent. So watch the first week and then watch the second week. Watch his ass drop off the planet." I just thought that the whole thing should be on there. --- User: cwiggs91 23:43, 11 August 2007
:That is too much information about this issue. I don't think there should be more than a paragraph. The page should try to talk about the album itself, not this competition. --- Realest4Life 12:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what he stated, whether it is false or not is irrelevant, he stated it so it would deserve a mention. --- Realest4Life 14:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It's somewhat relevant, although I think that you shouldn't add anything else to it, it would simply be trivial and irrelevant, even adding it to the 50 Cent article wouldn't be such a great idea. The face-off deserves a mention because it did create some buzz, but 50 Cent said he won't retire if Graduation sells more than Curtis. We would have to compare the album sales every week. Instead, we should try to improve the overview of the album, not too much on its commercial success. More info on the critics' reviews, etc. --- Realest4Life 00:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute With Kanye West

message: 50's new video leaked, check out 50's reaction here. I think somewhere more experienced than me should check it out and add it to the article. Anyone think he will release the single now or wait? volumesoxxs 09:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need to give this a mention because one, it is recentism, and two, it is irrelevant, it might deserve a mention in "Follow My Lead"'s article, and it is mentioned, but not here. --- Realest4Life 14:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Follow My Lead Video Leak

message: Wasn't there an original album cover before the one now. It was something like a coat of arms with "CURTIS" on a blue background? Should that be mentioned in the article? MITB LS 18:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that it was just a promotional logo? --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 20:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it really deserves a mention. --- Realest4Life 23:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

text: promo logo LightSpeed2 07:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original album cover

message: its called "still will kill", mainly becqause when it leaked on the ringtone website thats what they called it, thats what itunes calls it. 50 never called it "ill still kill" LightSpeed2 07:48, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: iTunes messed up with the track listing before. Anyway, 50 Cent called it "I'll Still Kill" here (about 18:54 minutes in). Also, we have the "Confirmed tracks" (tracks confirmed by 50 Cent) and the "iTunes" track listing, because we don't know for sure if iTunes is right. He confirmed it as "I'll Still Kill", while iTunes has it as "Still Will Kill", it's not that complicated. We are simply reporting what 50 Cent said and what iTunes said. Stop making such a big deal out of this. --- Realest4Life 14:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: still will kill, not "ill still kill"  part 2

message: Curtis is a LOT better, all of the snippets are dope! See Here For Snippets
By the way has it been put in the article that both albums have snippets out?--¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 09:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was, but it was later removed, apparently it is not very notable to mention this. After the album is released, it probably won't be very notable. --- Realest4Life 15:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose. If or when the whole album leaks surely it would be ok to put that it. e.g. in the future it could say something like "The whole album leaked a week before the release" or something? --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 16:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it'll be very relevant after it's offically released, I am OK with mentioning the full album leak before it's released, but after that it's not that important. --- Realest4Life 16:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I cosign that - NJ Rock 16:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know, I mean, the full album didn't actually leak, it's just snippets. If you're gonna mention it, mention it when the full songs leak. --- Realest4Life 00:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Come to think of it, normally it wouldn't be relevant... but the snippets were released as part of the competition. Both were professionally grouped together, and they were released alongside eacheother, probably as usage for comparison. I think that it should be mentioned after the thing where he dispelled his comments. - NJ Rock 00:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, the snippets havent Leaked they were released by both camps to promote/give tasters. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 11:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Graduation has been fully leaked now so we dont need to mention the snippets. Ive got it. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 14:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. --- Realest4Life 15:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Curtis vs Graduation

message: Dr. Dre was said to have spit a verse for Fif on the album, should that be mentioned? - NJ Rock 00:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add it if you eant as long as you source it. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 11:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it and sourced it. --- Realest4Life 15:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dr. Dre

message: Guys the clean version of the album has leaked. Trimy67 05:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait until the album booklet leaks with credits or a source confirms production for each track, it will then be easy to fill in production credits. --Ayoleftyz 05:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a good album. 100 times better than Graduation. But I dont think the leak is notable enough to be in the article? --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 11:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL, a hundred times better than Graduation? Just stop, please lol. I like both of the artists equally but how can you compare Curtis to Graduation when the explicit version of Curtis hasn't even leaked yet? Some of the songs you can't even hear because of the profanity editing. Graduation is pretty impressive so I guess we'll have to wait and see. Also, like I said wait for the booklet. --Ayoleftyz 11:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Curtis is better than Graduation. I mean its 50 Cent. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 13:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And you are very biased. 'Nuff said. --- Realest4Life 13:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, definitely. A little too groupie homie. --Ayoleftyz 14:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not biased against Kanye, I did like "Cant Tell Me Nothing (Remix)" but I genuinely do think that Curtis was better overall. Although I do agree, you can't hear anything on the clean version, The uncensored version will be a LOT better. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 14:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, that's not what I meant, I mean like, you will obviously choose a G-Unit member over most other artists. Your name says it all. So there's really no point in even telling us which album you think is better, it's hard to imagine a "G-Unit Boss" choosing Graduation over Curtis. --- Realest4Life 14:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, But just because I like G-Unit, it doesnt mean I am biased...--¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 14:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No and Dr. Dre didn't produce "Come & Go" nor "Straight to the Bank", I will add the correct producers now. --Ayoleftyz 14:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Both albums are good, my favorite song in the Curtis album is "Peep Show".--Shadyaftrmathgunit 16:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the point of making a clean verison, no one buys the clean version.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 16:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One more thing i will like to say, if someone got hold of the album, why didn't they leak the uncensored version.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 16:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interscope is suspected to leak the album. But what I am surprised is the Release date. MTV Shows it on September 4th.   UzEE  (Talk • Contribs) 03:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It's not notable regardless of anything. It would only be allowed to state info about the leak if it caused controversy or something was interesting about the leak - like it caused the release date of the album to change. Every new album gets leaked so why bother to state that the album got leaked? Douglasr007 04:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it isn't notable, but what The-G-Unit-Boss meant is that it will be easier for the editors that are watching this article (me, The-G-Unit-Boss, Ayoleftyz, Shadyaftrmathgunit, etc.) to just leave it there until the album is released, because, unless someone is watching the page 24/7, we would not be able to remove it every time some anon adds it. I agree with both of you, it sure is a lot easier, but it isn't notable. --- Realest4Life 13:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It's doesn't need to be on here period. Stop adding the info or I'm just going to ask for full protection for the page. Douglasr007 17:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Calm down, remove it if you wish, but then also help us with the vandalism that's coming from the anons. If you want full protection, ask for it, although it's not that bad. --- Realest4Life 17:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, full protection eh? I'd say you need to calm down and quit causing such an issue. First of all, it is notable at the time. The album leaked to the Internet and people want to know that, hence why 400,000 anons are adding it like I said before. Second of all, the album is one of the biggest of year and third of all, like Realest said, removing it just creates more vandalism/more reverting. Leave it until the album is released and then remove it on the 9/11 because it’s definitely not notable than. Also, is it really that bothersome to leave it for another 10 days? Come on now, lol. --Ayoleftyz 19:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Biggest release of the year? So? Does this make it a special case? Do not add the mention of the album leaking. Removing it isn't going to cause vandalism if you're bold about keeping the info off the article. You got to learn how Wikipedia works sometimes. Douglasr007 22:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, they shouldn't get noted, it simply isn't notable. I was not arguing to mention the leak because I think it should be there, I was arguing because I don't feel like having other users adding the same info every 5 minutes. Then we removed it later, because it's not notable. --- Realest4Life 14:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: tha leak

message: *Curtis S.S.K
S.S.K stands for 'Shoot Stab Kill'  listen to the song called "Do It Myself by Young Buck" at the begining 50 cent says what S.S.K stands for.....
They made him remove the S.S.k from the tittle because it was too Violent or whatever
Please change where it says it stands for "SoundScan Killer" its not true.....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cj098 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have sources that say it's "SoundScan Killer". --- Realest4Life 21:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I've added 50 Cent to the producer list as the executive producer of the album. SOmeone took some (shockingly bad) photos of the booklet and Dr.Dre, Eminem & Sha Money XL aren't mentioned as executive producers this time around. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/drehype07/c4.jpg
I guess we'll just wait until the release date to put on the right production credits, but half of the producer list is fake. (RomanZayus 10:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, just hold off until the album is fully released or we actually have a full pic of the booklet with all of the production credits. I will go ahead and 50 Cent as exec. producer though, good fine. I know people are going to be surprised by the new producers list haha. Half of the stuff is produced by in-house and rather "unknown" producers. --Ayoleftyz 12:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to go ahead and add the correct producer's list that was taken from the booklet of the clean version that was leaked. Obviously the producers will remain the same but I'll hold back on the track times until the explicit is released. Click here for the producers list from the retail clean booklet. --Ayoleftyz 12:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Look up at "Executive Producer". --Ayoleftyz 19:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? --Braff234 19:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look up two sections and you will see... --Ayoleftyz 20:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, not anymore, I merged the sections, they had the exact same topic. --- Realest4Life 14:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Either post the specific link to the source here, or the unsourced material stamp will be placed back on. --Braff234 23:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa there homie, look up, it's now merged like Realest said. --Ayoleftyz 15:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Executive Producer

message: Can someone change the French link [Curtis S.S.K.] to [Curtis (album)] ??
Thanks. A French user.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.17.15.94 (talk) 18:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: French version is so old lol, they still had Rich Harrison credited as a producer. I changed it though. --- Realest4Life 18:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: French link

message: I have the dirty version of curtis...
A Khan 23:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt you do since it hasn't been leaked yet, but if you DO have it, please share the wealth :). Also, if you have the crappy explicit version with skips upon skips, save your time. The retail group-rip version of the explicit hasn't came out yet, I got connections haha. --Ayoleftyz 23:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I know. I am getting very anxious for the retail explicit version grrrrr.. --Ayoleftyz 15:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I highly doubt he is telling the truth and the copy probably is the same old skipping piece of shit. RGF (group rip team) will have it today or tomorrow. This will be the ACTUAL retail explicit version. Also, this doesn't need to be discussed here, it's not a forum. I'm not trying to be a dick but come on lol. --Ayoleftyz 17:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am downloading the explicit version right now, from RGF. --- Realest4Life 17:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's the 320 kbps web-rip. It isn't the retail version of the explicit. I had that last night when it first came out my dude. --Ayoleftyz 18:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Thats a fake one where its all mixtape style, track which lead into on another. Somebody edited it poorly. I want to wait for the proper retail rip. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 16:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean version?

message: i have the clean version, so I can see how long every song is. the album is 55:50 in total. please don't change the time, because these are all songs off the official retail version - only clean, but it doesn't change how long every song is. words like "fuck" "shit" or "bitch" or only muted. Darius20 11:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but your producers are wrong. --Ayoleftyz 15:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the correct times for all of the songs and the total album time. I should have done this a while ago since I did know that the clean version of the songs were just muted but I just wanted to wait. --Ayoleftyz 16:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Nah, no leaks, clean or explicit, you shouldn't mention it. --- Realest4Life 00:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's pretty relevant... but i havnt been contributin as much (enjoyin the last days of summer)... so my opinion isnt as relevant as it was b4 - NJ Rock 03:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: No, it's not needed. --Ayoleftyz 17:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: time

message: we should mention this.
Shouldn't we?
if you guys want I can give you the link
--Frans Adiesha 17:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not needed. --Ayoleftyz 17:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For the billionth time, no. --- Realest4Life 17:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: why you guys saying that we shouldn't mention that?--Frans Adiesha 10:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not notable. --- Realest4Life 18:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: album leaked

message: The Intro Is Sampled From "Nacho Libre" (According to the Curtis Bredits on the case) so add that, i've never seen the movie so i dont know when the quote is, but it is from teh movie according to the curtis production credits  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.247.224 (talk) 14:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We really shouldn't have a samples thing in the track listing for this album. Graduation has it because West uses samples for every song he produces, it's his style, but other than the intro and "I Get Money", I don't think any other song really has any samples. --- Realest4Life 18:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro Sample

message: Now it has been leaked, i have it, i've checked it, its good.
A Khan 21:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dirty version without skips

message: OK, now that AllHipHop.com recently reviewed the album, I made a new section ("Reception") just for critical reviews. As soon as a new review (not any review though, take a look at this and this for more information) comes out, add it to the infobox first (formatting is easy), and then to the "Reception" section. Look at the AllHipHop review as an example on what other reviews should look like (more or less).
Now, I don't know about you guys, but I just see "Come & Go" titled "Come and Go" by almost everyone out there. Should we go ahead and change it ourselves? Or should we wait until the album is officially released? No one said it's "Come & Go", I don't know who created the page like that, but it might be "Come and Go". What do you guys think? --- Realest4Life 23:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It wouldn't hurt to wait a week, but we can change it I guess, as we could change it right back on September 11th so I guess it's up to you Realest. - NJ Rock 00:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, I won't do something like that without everyone else agreeing. If you guys don't agree, then I can wait, there's no rush, I just brought it up because this would be kind of important, don't you think? --- Realest4Life 00:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno man, it's seems pretty trivial. But after reading all these articles on it. It does seem like it's "Come And Go" as I haven't seen "Come & Go" yet. - NJ Rock 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We should do it the proper way. See the Come & Go talk page. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 17:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh really? Well I removed the source. Go look at the review of each album on my page, I would say I favor Curtis over Graduation so it has nothing to do with being biased homie, the review is not professional. --Ayoleftyz 03:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your review was removed because the Def Sounds review is not professional. --- Realest4Life 19:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

text: ...Why? That's how you get this article a GA rating. --- Realest4Life 03:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, what Realest said. It is very important. --Ayoleftyz 03:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It received "generally favorable reviews". --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Besides, All Music Guide and Rolling Stone have "favorable" reviews, see here, while the other two are "unfavorable", so it's balanced out. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception & "Come & Go"

message: Japan HMV has a bonus track listed but i can not understand the language so should a bonus track be added to the trackilisting if there is one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trimy67 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One that will change hip-hop. Interesting, but we will need sources for this. --- Realest4Life 03:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bonus Track

message: According to the sources I've found, "Come & Go" is produced by Dr. Dre, and "Straight To The Bank" is produced by Dr. Dre & Ty Fyffe. So unless someone has more recent sources that correct my edit, people need to stop changing it.
Come & Go Source: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5147/title.50-cent-speaks-on-new-album-eminem-yayo-buck-more
Straight To The Bank Source 1: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/50cent/albums/album/16233116/review/16256624/curtis
Straight To The Bank Source 2: http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=8856
--Braff234 20:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The album booklet was leaked along with the album (obviously) and Roomio & Veto were credited for "Come & Go" and Ty Fyffe was solely credited for "Straight to the Bank". Do you not think we know these sources exist? However, they really don't matter if the actual booklet says something completely different. We have dedicated endless time to editing this article to make sure it has the best sources and factual representation; we wouldn't waste time fighting you or others on what stays and what goes if we weren't being factually correct. --Ayoleftyz 03:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The album was released in germany today and I have it. producers for come & go as credited in the booklet: c. jackson, a. young, j harris, t. lewis, for straight to the bank:c. jackson, t. Fyffe, a. young.so you were right. if anybody wants to see the booklet i can take photos and upload them.--84.60.211.49 15:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Producers for "Come & Go" and "Straight To The Bank"

message: I am from Australia and today the curtis album was released here and i have it and it is slear all ove there album that S S K stands for SouthSideKingTrimy67 09:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hearsay, need proof. --Ayoleftyz 09:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Same thing here in germany. The album was released yesterday and on the back of the booklet is says ssk and under that southside king. If you want I can take a photo and upload it.--84.60.213.154 12:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SO I think it should be changed--84.60.194.218 10:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, I just changed it. --- Relax and take notes, while I take totes of the marijuana smoke 17:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: S S K

message: I thought that Akon was the producer for I'll Still Kill. Who said its DJ Khalil?   UzEE  (Talk • Contribs) 23:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who said it's Akon? --- Realest4Life 00:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Whats with this DJ Khalil 

message: ===Track listing===
# "Intro" - 0:50
# "My Gun Go Off" – 4:06 - censored on both explicit and clean version
#* Written by C. Jackson, A. Deitch, E. Krasno, D. Prosper
#* Produced by Adam Deitch & Eric Krasno for Fyre Dept.
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT & Eric Krasno @ Fyre Dept Studios, Brooklyn, NY
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
#* Keyboards & Programming by Adam Deitch
#* Guitar, bass & additional programming by Eric Krasno
# "Man Down" – 4:20
#* Written by C. Jackson, J. Powell, D. Cannon, D. Mook, B. Raleigh
#* Produced by Detroit Red for B.S.T., LLC. Co-Produced by Don Cannon for B.S.T., LLC
#* Recorded by Detroit Red @ You Know Me Well Recordings, Atlanta, GA & Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
#* Production Coordination by Kek & Amy fr Cookies and Milk, LLC
#* Keyboards by Detroit Red
# "I'll Still Kill" (featuring Akon) – 3:44
#* written by C. Jackson, K. Abdul Rahman, A. Thiam, B. Honeycutt
#* Produced by DJ Khalil
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Marcella "Ms. Lago" Araica @ Hit Factory Criteria Studios, Miami, FL
#* Assisted by Doug Sadler
# "I Get Money" – 3:44
#* Written by C. Jackson, W. Stranberry, Kirl Robinson
#* Produced by Apex for Apex Productionz, LLC
#* Recorded by Alonzo Vargas for 4 Media @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Additional recording by Ted Clayton @ G Unit Studios, NYC & Steve Baughman @ Pacifique Studios, LA, CA
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Pacifique Studios, LA, CA
# "Come & Go" – 3:29
#* Written by C. Jackson, A. Young, J. Harris, T. Lewis)
#* Produced by Dr. Dre
#* Recorded by Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri & Robert "Roomio" Reyes @ Avex Honolulu Studios, Honolulu, HI & Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Assisted by Jacob Gabriel
#* Mix Engineered by Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri
#* Assisted by Robert "Roomio" Reyes
#* Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
# "Ayo Technology" (featuring Justin Timberlake & Timbaland) – 4:08
#* Written by C. Jackson, T. Mosley, N. Hills, J. Timberlake
#* Produced by Timbaland for Timbaland Productions, Inc. & Co-produced by Danja for Danjahandz Productions, Inc.
#* Recorded by Demo @ Hit Factory Criteria, Miami, FL, Pressure Point Studios, Chicago, IL. & Studio 7303 Houston, TX
#* Additional recording by Ian Stewart & Gary Hadfield @ Blueprint Studios, Manchester, UK.
#* Mixed by Demo @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY & Hit Factory Criteria, Miami, FL
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Follow My Lead" (featuring Robin Thicke) – 3:18
#* Written by C. Jackson, J. Henderson, C. Whitcare
#* Produced by Tha Bizness for Tha Bizness Productions/Money Management Group
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Additional mixing by Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri & Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Movin On Up" – 3:24
#* Written by C. Jackson, J. Dutton, L. Ware, F. Perren, C. Yarian
#* Produced by Jake One for White Van Music/Money Management Group
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Straight to the Bank" – 3:11
#* Written by C. Jackson, T. Fyffe, A. Young
#* Produced by Ty Fyffe for TYBU Entertainment. Additional Production by Dr. Dre.
#* Recorded by Frankie "Whispers" Zago @ Music Factory Recording Studios, West Hampstead, NY
#* Mixed by Dr. Dre @ Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Instruments played by Taj "Mahal" Brown
# "Amusement Park" – 3:09
#* Written by C. Jackson, T. Crawford, H. Campbell, A.R. Hatchett
#* Produced by Teraike "Chris Styles" Crawford & Hailey "Silence" Campbell for Dangerous LLC/Money Management Group. Additional Production by Dean "Freak" Farmer & Andrea "Fluterscooter" Fisher for Dangerous LLC
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT & Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri @ Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Mixed by Dr. Dre @ Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Mix Engineer: Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri
#* Assisted by Robert "Roomio" Reyes
# "Fully Loaded Clip" – 3:13
#* Written by C. Jackson, K. Muchita
#* Produced by Havoc for Kejuan Entertainment
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Peep Show" (featuring Eminem) – 3:52
#* Written by C. Jackson, M. Mathers, M. Strange, J. Bass, T. Campana
#* Produced by Eminem
#* Recorded by Mike Strange & Tony Campana @ 54 Sound in Detroit, MI
#* Mixed by Eminem & Mike Strange @ 54 Sound in Detroit, MI
#* Keyboards by Mike Strange
#* Additional keyboards by Tony Campana & Jeff Bass
# "Fire" (featuring Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger) – 2:50
#* written by C. Jackson, A. Young, D. Parker, S. Jordan, N. Grier
#* Produced by: Dr. Dre
#* Recorded by Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri & Robert "Roomio" Reyes @ Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA & Ky Miller @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Assisted by Charles "Red" Garcia
#* Mixed by Dr. Dre @ Record One, Sherman Oaks, CA
#* Mix Engineered by Mauricio "Veto" Iragorri
#* Assisted by Robert "Roomio" Reyes
#* Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
# "All Of Me" (featuring Mary J. Blige) – 3:52
#* Written by C. Jackson, J. Dutton
#* Produced by Jake One for White Van Music/Money Management Group
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Curtis 187" – 3:58
#* Written by C. Jackson, K. Muchita
#* Produced by Havoc for Kejuan Entertainment
#* Recorded by Philip "Philly Blunt" Shpiller @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
# "Touch The Sky" (featuring Tony Yayo) – 3:10
#* Written by C. Jackson, K. Harrold, M. Bernard
#* Produced by K-Lassik Beats for Key Kat Productions, Inc.
#* Recorded by Tony Yayo @ The Big House, Farmington, CT
#* Mixed by Steve Baughman @ Legacy Studios, NYC, NY
#* Assisted by Seamus "Shameless" Tyson
===Samples===
* "Intro" contains dialogue from the motion picture "Shooters". Used courtesy of Lions Gate Films, Inc. & Geops Amsterdam, B.V., by arrangement with PFG Entertainment, Inc. Dialogue excerpts spoken by Andrew Howard and Matthew Rhys.
* "Man Down" contains elements from "Scooby Doo Theme" (Mook/Raleigh). Mook Bros Music (admin by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp) (BMI)/Ben Raleigh Music (admin by Music Sales Corp) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved.
* "I Get Money" contains elements from "Top Billin" (Robinson) Songs of Universal, Inc./First Priority Music (BMI)/Hot Buttermilk Music, Inc. (admin ICG Alliance) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Performed by Audio Two. Produced under license from Altantic Recording Corp, by arrangement with Rhino Entertainment company, A Warner Music Group company.
* "Come & Go" contains replayed elements from "Just Be Good To Me" (Jam/Lewis). EMI-April Music, Inc./Flyte Tyme Tunes, Inc./Avante Guarde Music Publishing, Inc. (admin by Universal Music Corp) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved.
* "Movin On Up" contains elements from "Give Me Just Another Day" (Ware). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Almo Music Corp. Performed by The Miracles. Used by courtesy of Motown Records, Co, LLP. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises. "Do It Baby" (Perren/Yarian). Jobete Music Co, Inc. (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Performed by The Miracles. Used courtesy of Motown Records, Co, LLC. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises; "Nuttin But A Drumbeat". Performed by Russell Simmons. Used courtesy of Island/Def Jam Records. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises.
--NeptunianDroid 14:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...What? --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Credits from the booklet

message: * "Intro" contains dialogue from the motion picture "Shooters". Used courtesy of Lions Gate Films, Inc. & Geops Amsterdam, B.V., by arrangement with PFG Entertainment, Inc. Dialogue excerpts spoken by Andrew Howard and Matthew Rhys.
* "Man Down" contains elements from "Scooby Doo Theme" (Mook/Raleigh). Mook Bros Music (admin by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp) (BMI)/Ben Raleigh Music (admin by Music Sales Corp) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved.
* "I Get Money" contains elements from "Top Billin" (Robinson) Songs of Universal, Inc./First Priority Music (BMI)/Hot Buttermilk Music, Inc. (admin ICG Alliance) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Performed by Audio Two. Produced under license from Altantic Recording Corp, by arrangement with Rhino Entertainment company, A Warner Music Group company.
* "Come & Go" contains replayed elements from "Just Be Good To Me" (Jam/Lewis). EMI-April Music, Inc./Flyte Tyme Tunes, Inc./Avante Guarde Music Publishing, Inc. (admin by Universal Music Corp) (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved.
* "Movin On Up" contains elements from "Give Me Just Another Day" (Ware). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Almo Music Corp. Performed by The Miracles. Used by courtesy of Motown Records, Co, LLP. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises. "Do It Baby" (Perren/Yarian). Jobete Music Co, Inc. (ASCAP). Used By Permission. All Rights Reserved. Performed by The Miracles. Used courtesy of Motown Records, Co, LLC. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises; "Nuttin But A Drumbeat". Performed by Russell Simmons. Used courtesy of Island/Def Jam Records. By arrangement with Universal Music Enterprises.
--NeptunianDroid 14:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Samples

message: Thanks for them. I'm sure that they will be a lot of use in this article! --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 15:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...What? --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment here

message: I know this is trivial but I request citation for the fact that the album was released on September 07, 2007. Thank you. 
Regards, Kushal --Click me! write to me 22:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was released on September 7, 2007, in the European Union, and Template:Infobox Album#Released says it should include the earliest known date. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I'm just going to use the same format as Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), that's a featured article and it only lists the U.S. release date. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request citation

message: Why are there so many..--KarmaLoop 04:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...? --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says reviews are "mostly favourable" yet the majority of the linked reviews seem to be around the 50%-70% mark, which is surely average rather than favourable. I don't normally deal with music articles so I don't wanna edit this, but I think it should be changed to "mostly average" reviews.Tony2Times 20:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Metacritic, it received "generally favorable reviews". --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reviews

message: I don't think the sales info for Curtis Or Graduation should be included in the articles as of yet. So Sept. 11 release date they said Curtis was neck and neck with Chesney. A day later they wrote Curtis sold 3x what his album sold first day. According to reports I've read Graduation and Curtis are very close. I.E. Curtis is number 1 on iTunes and Graduation is number 2. I think the first day sales just reflect that more of Kanye's fans pre-ordered the album.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DisDudeIsFly (talk • contribs) 12:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a source, a reliable source, so there's no need to remove it. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Billboard is not the only measure in the world. Also Curtis was officially released in Europe (possibly also Asia & Australia) already on September 7th 2007. The reference for this is ... humm .. my sales slip? --DiehardDanny 11:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say it is, but it's a reliable source. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 16:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales Info From Billboard

message: Can someone explain how this review is AT ALL favorable? It is clearly unfavorable, remarking "50 Cent seems less like a suave chief executive and more like mischievous brat." and going on to conclude that "The album is neither as contagious as 'Get Rich or Die Tryin’ ' (apparently it’s possible to have an entire album stuck in your head) nor as devious as 'The Massacre'." I am reversing it to "unfavorable" and it should remain as such unless someone can explain why it was stated to be "favorable" in the first place. Antidote1 16:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was calculated by Metacritic. They say The New York Times review is actually 80/100. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New York Times Review

message: Is there no uncensored version of "Man Down" ? --West Coast Ryda - Talk 19:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't know, Interscope censored it. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dose any one know where to get the completley unsensored version from????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goat47 (talk • contribs) 02:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The 90% uncensored version leaked onto you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koyl8jueLZU--Shadyaftrmathgunit 20:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The song is fake.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 15:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: No... haha. The album was released with the censored version only, this is all that needs to be mentioned. It was obvious that the completely uncensored version of "Man Down" would EVENTUALLY leak. Definitely not worth a mention though, at all. --Ayoleftyz 22:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: were do you get the compleatly uncensored one atGoat47 00:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The completely uncensored version has been released with G-Unit Radio Part 25-Sabrinas Baby Boy. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 15:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

text: were do you find g-unit raidio part 25 at cuz i just looked at itunes and they didnt have itGoat47 01:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can find it here. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: alright thanks but how do you download itGoat47 06:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well... you click "download" until you get a ticket. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 14:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: ya but it wont let me downloadGoat47 15:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Well... you click "download" until you get a ticket." So click download like 45 times. That's what I do, eventually you'll get it. Enough of this anyway, this is kind of getting off topic. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 15:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The[NO DJ] [100% UNCENSORED] version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEO_sREaYzs.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 21:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This whole section should be removed, it's completely off topic. Discuss any improvements that the article needs, not uncensored songs. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Censore

message: i didnt get curtis off itunes so i dunno but i did download the bonus song "Smile im leavin" and on one youtube video of it, it said it was an itune bonus track but i dunno that for sure...can anyone confirm it??? i think it should be added to track list since UK bonus track is added....."smile nigga my next album might be my last"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ya it is its an itunes bounus track if you pre order it off itunes..thats what i did.Goat47  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who produced it? --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: im really not sure i will try to go and find out.Goat47  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 17:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: i couldnt really find any thing except one person said it was produced by kanye west but i donno if thats true or not..but smile i am leaving dose kind sound like a kanye beat.Goat47  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 17:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh well, we'll find out who the producer was for sure eventually. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: should we add kanye for now and see what othere people have to say.Goat47 17:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not without a reliable source. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Who is "Classic"? I thought it was just a sample.. ---KarmaLoop 20:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A producer. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out the obvious.. Are you sure it isn't K-Lassik?---KarmaLoop 00:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, he said "Classic", wouldn't "K Lassik" be "Kay-Lassick"? --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 02:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could just be sampling someone saying 'classic' like Bangladesh and them do. I doubt it's actually a producer called Classic, it's most likely K-Lassik RomanZayus 03:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See digital watermarking. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I didn't really explain myself properly I suppose - I meant that he's watermarking the beat as his, much like Bangladesh does. I just meant that it may have been sampled, but yeah. K-Lassik. -- RomanZayus 04:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's cool. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 14:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I changed it to K Lassik Beats anyway. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: itunes bonus track

message: Billboard Results on Sales - NJ Rock 03:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article covers only the US domestic sales. --DiehardDanny 19:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article from Billboard, or this article? If you are referring to the Billboard article, so what? We need sources for the U.S. sales too. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales Results from Billboard

message: Graduation:
Germania: 17 Giappone: 13 Francia: 9 Australia: - Irlanda: 2 Olanda: 11 Svizzera: 3 Stati Uniti: 1 Regno Unito: 1 Italia: 33 Norvegia: 2 Portogallo: - Nuova Zelanda: -
Curtis:
Germania: 1 Giappone: 20 Francia: 3 Australia: 1 Irlanda: 1 Olanda: 3 Svizzera: 1 Stati Uniti: 2 Regno Unito: 2 Italia: 9 Norvegia: 4 Portogallo: 14 Nuova Zelanda: 1
2 hours 4 looking 4 all positions.LOL sorry if the name of countries is in italian, but i live there  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.10.249.136 (talk) 20:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We need the sources, sorry. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 20:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Worldwide charts

message: vivendi the company that owns BOTH 50 cent's AND kanye's record labels says on their site he(50cent) sold 2million(worldwide)! i think that is more reliable than the source that we have now that has porno advertisments!!!
http://www.vivendi.com/corp/en/home/week.php
and kanye west said on "106 and park" on the channel "BET" that he sold 1.6million worldwide...im asking that we plz trust vivendi site more than a site with porno ads and change the page to go by what vivendi says... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 
:There is already an entire section on this (Talk:Curtis_%2850_Cent_album%29#Curtis_2x_Platinum_Worldwide.3F....) which states the same source from day 1 --DiehardDanny 16:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it is, since it's the official chart for worldwide sales. No one else has confirmed these sales claimed by Vivendi. No one wants to admit it, but you guys wouldn't be arguing about this if the United World Chart said Curtis sold more than what Vivendi said. --- --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: aCharts, the website used for all the chart positions. That's not the problem, the United World Chart is a credible source, they are the official chart for worldwide sales, Vivendi is not. They don't mess up, and if they do, they fix it. That's why we had Vivendi there for a week until the UWC posted the second week sales, and since the second week sales were similar (Graduation on top), and because they only sold like 300k in their second week (so, you're telling me, that they will go down from 2 million to 300k? Come on, no one decreases that much), Vivendi was removed. Also, no one else, including 50 Cent himself, has confirmed these 2 million. This the last time I'm saying this, sales are given by the UWC, not Vivendi. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps they forgot to update? Just like the RIAA never updates the certification for some reason. But this is still a current album, it's still in the top ten, they obviously give up to date sales for it. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:31, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah probably. But they listed it in 2007, so I can't how see they can be off by several million copies. Spellcast 19:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Dude, shut up with the porno ads already, did you know that even Billboard has stupid "50 Cent Nude!" ads? It's called "ads by Google", and also, what the fuck does the design of the website have to do with it being the official website of the United World Chart? Shut the hell up already, like I said, you would not be saying anything if the UWC said the sales were higher than Vivendi, to you this thing is probably all about that stupid competition. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it's about the retarded competition, it's some groupie in an uproar because 50 Cent didn't make two million extra dollars off his sales lol. --Ayoleftyz 02:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Sign your comments already (~~~~), and I didn't really get what you were trying to say, but I see that you are not denying the fact that you are only arguing about this because you're still into that whole "50 Cent vs. Kanye West" thing. That was a month ago kid. Don't be so sure about Vivendi always being here, in a few weeks we'll probably gonna get some interview with 50 Cent confirming the sales, after which the Vivendi reference will be removed. It's not even there anymore. I think we're done, your groupie ass should be happy now. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 02:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

text: It's there because of UWC being retarded. It was there for a week until the UWC gave the second week sales, because I assumed that since no one reported a mistake by the UWC, that the UWC is right. Now I don't know which one is right, so there's both. You don't get what I'm saying, do you? If it will be proven to be wrong, Vivendi will not be here. If 50 Cent confirms those 2 million, Vivendi will be removed, that news reported has since been removed (from the Vivendi website), by the way. Until then, stop talking shit on the Internet like some kind of Internet groupie/thug. You should show the other editors some respect as well, since you did very little to improve this article, other than argue with us about the Vivendi sales, and it's not you that convinced me that UWC might be wrong, it was Spellcast when he showed us the sales of 50 Cent's other albums. If you can add sections for the album's lyricism, production, etc., then you can criticize our edits, until then, show me some respect son. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

text: This is the last time I'm signing your comments, next time I'll just ignore them. I was talking about you, you still don't know when to just shut up about the sales. I added them. As soon as I read about the UWC sales for 50 Cent's other albums, I brought back Vivendi. What the hell do you still want? Wasn't that your goal? You still say idiotic stuff like "it'll always be there". Just shut up, Vivendi is there (not because of you, but still). --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 16:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Incase you didnt know, you dont have to sign other people's comments. Firstly because its their job and also because "SineBot" will most likely do it. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 16:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SineBot didn't sign comments here for a while, this guy's comments were like a few hours old and SineBot didn't do anything. So, are we supposed to leave the talk page like that, when it's still relatively easy to sign them? It's just for this guy, because I already told him to sign it, and signed them for him like 10 times, and he still doesn't get it. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 16:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't trying to crticise you. I was just pointing it out to try and save you time. Also i didn't revert the new ref because of 100 copies! (thats for groupies), just because I see Billboard as a more reputable source. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 17:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Billboard is more reputable, however, they don't add up the sales for us. SOHH does. The only reason the number was different (from the number that I got by adding Billboard's new sales to the total sales posted by SOHH last week) was because SOHH added like an extra 100 copies last Thursday, and this time they had 100 less, so now I guess they fixed it. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 17:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Ah, I have to remember to read the fine print! And regarding billboard.biz, I'll ask someone who I think may have access to it. Spellcast 21:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If anybody who has access can print screen it and upload it, that would be sufficient would it not? --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 21:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. I don't see why it wouldn't be sufficient. Then we can have the actual sales stated by Billboard.biz and Media Traffic, not Media Traffic and Def Sounds reporting what Vivendi said. Much better that way, both the United World Chart and Billboard are reputable sources. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've asked User:Ericorbit who seems to know a lot about Billboard. DiehardDanny said billboard.biz had Curtis at 1.9 million and Graduation at 1.6 million. Judging by the source he gave, which put Curtis ahead of Graduation in the European charts, it could support the claim Curtis sold more than Graduation. Also, Media Traffic doesn't include all countries. Billboard gets their info from SoundScan. And since Vivendi has the same figure billboard.biz apparently gave, I'm assuming they also used SoundScan for their sales. Spellcast 22:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume Vivendi used SoundScan also, but if that Ericorbit guy subscribes to Billboard.biz, then he will have to print screen it or something, like The-G-Unit-Boss said. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah Eric said he did an archive search but couldn't find anything yet. And since Media Traffic doesn't include all countries, that could explain the contradiction between Vivendi's sales and the UWC's. I wonder if it's possible if the countries Media Traffic don't include sold a million copies collectively. Spellcast 00:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so once Eric finds out what the worldwide sales are, we remove the United World Chart sales. We keep the Vivendi sales only because we need first week sales, but for total sales we use that Billboard.biz stuff. Also, can you ask him to get the sales for Graduation as well? It would also be great if he gives us updated sales once every few weeks. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been no response suggesting nothing was on billboard.biz in the first place. And I don't even know if billboard.biz gives weekly sales. So are you going to keep the Vivendi sales or stick with UWC?  Spellcast 00:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll probably keep the Vivendi sales. That's only because you said UWC does not include all countries, even though I find it hard to believe that they are off by over a million copies. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 50 beat West in worldwide battle!!!!

message: Spellcast was right about the Media Traffic sales for Get Rich or Die Tryin' and The Massacre, however, at the bottom of the page it states:
Therefore, Media Traffic is not wrong about the sales for 50 Cent's previous two albums. That's just the amount they sold while they were on the top 40. You guys said there is a video of Kanye West on 106 & Park confirming those 1.6 million worldwide sold by Graduation. No one has uploaded it yet, and it's been almost a month. You guys said that Jay-Z confirmed Graduation's sales, no one has given a link to that yet. Even if you do, what does that have to do with Curtis' sales? DiehardDanny said Billboard.biz has the album's sales at 1.9 million, but that can only be viewed if you subscribe to it, so you can't use that as a source. No one other than Vivendi has confirmed these 2 million. If a week from now (that's Thursday, October 18th) no one finds a source confirming these 2 million, OTHER than Vivendi (by the way, that was removed a long time ago, we could use that Def Sounds link since they are reporting what Vivendi said, but even they put it under the "rumor" section), I will remove Vivendi and stick with Media Traffic and WorldWideAlbums.net. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I have to remember to read the fine print! And regarding billboard.biz, I'll ask someone who I think may have access to it. Spellcast 21:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If anybody who has access can print screen it and upload it, that would be sufficient would it not? --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 21:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. I don't see why it wouldn't be sufficient. Then we can have the actual sales stated by Billboard.biz and Media Traffic, not Media Traffic and Def Sounds reporting what Vivendi said. Much better that way, both the United World Chart and Billboard are reputable sources. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've asked User:Ericorbit who seems to know a lot about Billboard. DiehardDanny said billboard.biz had Curtis at 1.9 million and Graduation at 1.6 million. Judging by the source he gave, which put Curtis ahead of Graduation in the European charts, it could support the claim Curtis sold more than Graduation. Also, Media Traffic doesn't include all countries. Billboard gets their info from SoundScan. And since Vivendi has the same figure billboard.biz apparently gave, I'm assuming they also used SoundScan for their sales. Spellcast 22:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume Vivendi used SoundScan also, but if that Ericorbit guy subscribes to Billboard.biz, then he will have to print screen it or something, like The-G-Unit-Boss said. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah Eric said he did an archive search but couldn't find anything yet. And since Media Traffic doesn't include all countries, that could explain the contradiction between Vivendi's sales and the UWC's. I wonder if it's possible if the countries Media Traffic don't include sold a million copies collectively. Spellcast 00:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so once Eric finds out what the worldwide sales are, we remove the United World Chart sales. We keep the Vivendi sales only because we need first week sales, but for total sales we use that Billboard.biz stuff. Also, can you ask him to get the sales for Graduation as well? It would also be great if he gives us updated sales once every few weeks. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 03:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been no response suggesting nothing was on billboard.biz in the first place. And I don't even know if billboard.biz gives weekly sales. So are you going to keep the Vivendi sales or stick with UWC?  Spellcast 00:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll probably keep the Vivendi sales. That's only because you said UWC does not include all countries, even though I find it hard to believe that they are off by over a million copies. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Media Traffic