Talk:Rooney Rule

message: Anyone know why Wayne Fontes isn't included on this list? OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Wayne Fontes

message: Please excuse the lengthy post here.
Apparently, there are plans within the football league so that all managerial vacancies have a minimum of five candidates, one of which must be from an ethnic minority. This may not be the correct forum but clearly it raises the potential for some ridiculous situations, such as the fact that most club owners know who they want as manager, in which case, if the "pre-race" favoured candidate is black, must they then go through phoney interviews with the white candidates?
Is this rule shown to have any effect? It is possible to believe that even in this day and age, some owners of teams might be closet racists and will not be inclined to hire minorities. If that is the case, then the owner will be able to say that, "In my opinion, the white candidate was best", and who can say any different? But it also seems ridiculous to me that a team that would hire black players (presumably because they are best available) would not hire a black manager if he was also the best available, that being the case, the rule seems superfluous.
I have seen allegations made by black (former) managers in the UK that their dismissals were racially motivated, and in particular, Paul Ince and John Barnes. These are amongst the most famous players in the land. Ince made the claim against Blackburn, which if you follow the logic of it, means that the owners (if racist) could not have known that Ince was black. The other case, surrounded an even more famous player; John Barnes, who upon quitting playing, walked straight into the managers job at Glasgow Celtic. If you know anything about football, you will know that this is one of the best jobs in management. Barnes was sacked before the end of his first season, and had no subsequent success as manager and has since claimed that he is the victim of discrimination.
The most frequent route to top club management is that you progress through the ranks of coaching the junior players, or you have success at smaller teams.Notably Barnes had neither. However, the question remains, does "Rooney" benefit anybody? Is there any research that shows that since the introduction of "Rooney" managers/coaches from minorities have performed any better/worse than their white counterparts. And if the research shows no change, should there not be a section about the "Effectiveness of Rooney"? 46.7.85.68 (talk) 09:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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message: I am planning on adding a section discussing the controversy this year surrounding Eric Bieniemy. His offense has been the best offense in the league two years in a row and carried the Chiefs to a Super Bowl victory. In spite of this, he has been largely ignored for head coaching opportunities even though he is one of the most qualified coordinators in the league. 
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-rooney-rule-isnt-working-anymore/
Nserr024 (talk) 19:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: 2020 Eric Bieniemy Controversy

message: Several team names have a '*', but there is no indication of what they are for?  Red Jay (talk) 12:56, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are the '*'s for in the chart?