Talk:Canon (fiction)

message: This page was unreferenced for a long time, and in March 2010 it was turned into a stub by .  The version prior to stubification can be seen here.  I plan to work on recreating the article with references to reliable sources, as time permits; any other contributors who wish to join in the rebuilding are, of course, welcome. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 14:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Page history

message: I rewrote the intro, keeping the old description, and adding the info about its popular usage. Thanks to Shreevatsa for the help with the reference. --Darktower 12345 06:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro Rewrite 

message: So, apparently Doctor Who doesn't have a canon, yet the only "source" from that is the blog of someone who has written extensively for the spin-off media such as novels. Is that really a WP:RS?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.133.0.68 (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canon in [[Doctor Who]] 

message: I know that Marvel, DC, Star Wars and Star Trek all have official canon policies, and I'm pretty sure they're all well-documented online. Star Trek seems like the best simple example of a canon with a forked timeline / continuity reboot (also, Gene Roddenberry is on record as considering Star Trek V and VI partially "apocryphal", making Star Trek a good example of a situation in which the franchise creator and franchise owner disagree about what is and isn't canon). Marvel's multiverse would be a good example of a franchise with a main timeline and numerous separate, canonical timelines taking place in separate, canonical alternate universes. DC's "imaginary stories" seem like they'd be a good example of official but deliberately non-canon works. Star Wars seems like the best example of a shared universe with a single timeline and multiple tiers of canonicity. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 09:30, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could use some more specific examples of different canon policies 

message: There are a number of articles of certain TV serial programs (such as Aqua Teen Hunger Force, etc.) that state one of their categories as "Non-canon Fiction" and link this text to this article. The problem is that the term "non-canon" is too general and imprecise, and may even be getting misused. The term "non-canon" seems more applicable to fan-fiction or "official" episodes that do not follow one or more thoroughly previously established plot points of an original franchise. What I think is intended here is the phase "reboot fiction" or "reset fiction" and perhaps a link to the Reboot (fiction) or the Reset button technique article may be much more appropriate. --Champaign (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Misuse of Links to This Article and the Term ''Non-Canon''

message: Would it be appropriate to talk about how the subject of how canon is used throughout multimedia?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThunderBrine (talk • contribs) 23:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever is discussed in the article needs to cite reliable sources that actually say those things/make those observations. - BilCat (talk) 23:58, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-canonicity

message: Could someone give examples for fanon?
I'd try out for myself but I don't see if these are exact fits (or even canon). Surprisingly, they all have to do with the "who ends up with whom" question...
#Had it not been for Arwen, his love for her etc., Aragorn would have definitely ended up with Éowyn.
#Harry's romance with Cho did not end on Valentine's Day, but went on - or resumed after his interview came out - for some more weeks.
#The Angelina that George Weasley is canonically married to is his former Quidditch teammate Angelina née Johnson.--2001:A61:260C:C01:3880:897F:82C6:AABB (talk) 14:29, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, of course, need to document any claims, but there are elements of the backstory of Disney's Haunted Mansion attraction (the dark rides, not the movie) that began as fan theories but were later incorporated into the official story. For instance, there is a "tombstone" in the "cemetery" outside the mansion that carries the name "Master Gracey." As with many of the stones this is a tribute to one of the Imagineers who created the Mansion - in this case Yale Gracey, who developed many of the special effects. "Master" was used in the sense of a boy too young to be called "Mister," rather than "Master of the House." And the "aging portrait" in the foyer was not meant to portray a particular character... it was just a great visual gag. But fan theories applied the title "Master Gracey" to the face in the portrait, and made that individual the master of the house. None of this was in the original script but has since been adopted as official.PurpleChez (talk) 19:09, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

text: At least one "K/S" fanfic has apparently spawned its own subcanon; that is, works by other fans sometimes explicitly say "This is in the continuity of [that story]."  Is that fanon or something else? —Tamfang (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, indeed, the universe of fanfiction is fanon and not canon. 2A02:1810:4F0B:500:7791:C6EF:E1E4:5282 (talk) 18:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

text: (replying to myself) No. The author of an "unauthorized" story is still an author; its subcanon is not defined by its readers, like PurpleChez's example(s), but may be adopted by them (in the same way they adopt the "parent" canon) when they write other stories. – See also TvTropes. —Tamfang (talk) 19:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples for fanon? 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Non-canonical. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 26#Non-canonical until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  SWinxy (talk) 01:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Non-canonical" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address a potential problem with the redirect Apocrypha (fiction) and it has been listed for discussion. Readers of this page are welcome to participate at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 07:52, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Apocrypha (fiction)]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]