Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Archive 1

message: Surprisingly enough, this article need a lot of work. It has been added to the list of the top 150 topics which should be covered in any encyclopedia, and will be included on the wiki cd that is supposed to come out. Anyone with an interest in geography should contribute to this. SCmurky 07:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Geography]]

message: This article needs attention, needs NPOV edit. SCmurky 01:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Geostatistics]]

message: I would like to put foward the article Hill for improvement. It is a candidate to Wikipedia:Collaborations of the Week. I would like to ask you your support and help. --Francisco Valverde 18:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hills 

message: Ladakh is on Peer Review. Please give your suggestions on how to raise it to FA status. deeptrivia (talk) 02:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   [[Ladakh]] ([[Wikipedia:Peer review/Ladakh/archive1|Peer Review]]) 

message: Please see Wikipedia:Locations in fiction, fictional locations, and settings and pass this on to others who may be interested.—Lady Aleena talk/contribs 07:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal related to Geography project 

message: List of areas in the National Park System of the United States is a candidate for featured list.  Comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of areas in the National Park System of the United States. Nationalparks 02:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It passed!  Thanks to all those who helped out. Nationalparks 13:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured List Candidate 

message: I am interested in working on high-importance geography articles toward a release version of WP. Is anyone interested in helping with this? Maurreen 20:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Release version work

message: Lastovo is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy 21:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lastovo

message: Sealand is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy 22:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sealand

message: Sarajevo is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. 
Sorry to hit you with three at once:  we could use the help :-)  Sandy 23:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sarajevo

message: Dawson Creek, British Columbia is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 21:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Dawson Creek, British Columbia]]

message: Having recently been looking through the 11th edition of Britannica, I realized that while wikipedia has fairly detailed coverage of places, the actual coverage of geography, per se, is quite poor.  Compare the lengthy discussion of the topography of Italy in  the 1911 Britannica article, detailing the natural borders of "Italy" as a geographical concept, all the rivers of Italy and their sources and course, all the mountain ranges, all the off-shore islands, the general nature of the coastland and of the country, and so forth, with the discussion to be found at Italy (very brief), at Geography of Italy (a rather sad transplant from the CIA World Factbook), and at Italian Peninsula (mostly a description of the different political units that make up the Italian peninsula.)  I myself am not an expert in this kind of geography at all, but it seems as though this kind of thing should have considerably more coverage in wikipedia.  Arguably geography is the most basic encyclopedic concept, and it seems to me that we should be able to have a genuinely decent Geography of X article for just about every country.  Just (carefully) adapting the 1911 stuff would make a good start, although this would be difficult for countries that didn't exist in 1911, or whose borders have changed.  At any rate, is this something that people in this wikiproject would be interested in working on?  It seems like an eminently achievable goal - it is non-controversial and information is widely available, and for many articles the 1911 text provides a good starting point (although it should obviously be cross-checked with more recent information, the basic information about rivers, mountains, coastlines and so forth should be roughly the same).  Anyone interested? john k 18:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see more and better "Geography of ..." articles, and not all limited to countries, continents, etc.  A "Geography of the Himalayas" for example could be done without limited to single nations; although nations would be part of the geographical description..  I'd love to see more articles on geography less focused on political units..  and trying to help here and there on such things.. Pfly 16:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we really need a "Geography of the Himalayas" article?  Shouldn't that be covered in detail at, er, Himalayas?  I don't think the problem is that geographical articles are divided by political units.  It's more that the geographical articles tend to have very weak discussions of physical geography, especially when you compare them to the 1911 Britannica. john k 17:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography on wikipedia, broadly speaking 

message: I originally posted this at WikiProject Lakes' talk page, but I figured you guys might be willing to help out as well, since this is also under your jurisdiction:
Great Salt Lake has now been listed as a good article, and I plan to submit it for peer review soon. Before I do that, I'd be very grateful if everyone could copy-edit it (see Wikipedia:How to copy-edit) to improve grammar, punctuation, tone, etc. Also, please review it and list any opportunities for improvement on Talk:Great Salt Lake. Thank you. --Lethargy 22:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Salt Lake peer review 

message: Piccadilly Circus is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 22:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Piccadilly Circus]]

message: Is there any quick link to this WikiProject (e.g. WP:Geography)? If not, I'd be happy to make one. mwazzap 04:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. mwazzap 10:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quick link?

message: I've just created a project template to be placed on all the pages relating to geography, the template should be placed on the talk page only.AlexD 15:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Project Template

message: Hi all. Hope you don't mind, but I've substantially revised your template table. it now has links to the actulal templates, no longer lists this project page as a stub in various stub categories across Wikipedia, and replaces the list of six specific geo-stubs to the full list of 400+ (which I'm sure would be a bit too full for this page!). Please also note the comment I've added to the table about  - as a template it should be virtually never used, since all geographical locations are more correctly assigned to a continental, national, or regional geo-stub template. Grutness...wha? 00:31, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template table

message: If anyone is interested in helping with this, we have a page for reviewing articles on countries. Maurreen 22:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I have been trying to gin up interest in Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Geography, concerning high-priority articles for a release version. Maurreen 22:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Release Version 0.5

message: Human Geogrpahy is home to a number of pretty poor stubs/articles, Feminist geography, Urban geography and Social geography in particular. I'll have a shot at Feminist geography sometime soon, and maybe Urban geography, but Social geography seems a bit of an odd-one to me - isn't allhuman geography social geography, by definition? I certainly can't find any reference to social geography as a seperate sphere to human geography, I wouldn;t be sure what to put in the article?
I'd appreciate any help/feedback and any suggestions of other human geog areas that need sprucing-up whilst I'm at it? --Cooper-42 11:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human Geography stubs... 

message: Given that there's no WikiProject Geology, I thought I'd let this project know about this proposal to split up the , which are considerably oversized.  Comments and suggestions welcome.  Alai 05:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology-stub subcats 

message: Hi. If you still have work to do tagging talk pages and assessing articles, my AWB plugin might be of interest to you.
The plugin has two main modes of operation:
*Tagging talk pages, great for high-speed tagging
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As of the current version, WikiProjects with simple "generic" templates are supported by the plugin without the need for any special programatic support by me. I've had a look at your project's template and you seem to qualify.
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Hope that helps. If you have any questions or find any bugs please let me know on the plugin's talk page. --Kingboyk 13:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagging talk pages and assessing articles

message: I want to sort out :Category:Rivers in Sheffield. This category is a bit of a mess. It now has a subcat called Waterways in Sheffield that contains all the same articles. One of them has to go but the situation is a bit complicated.
I would prefer to use Waterways in Sheffield as this would include Sheffield Canal. However, the category system uses Rivers in X everywhere else. So Waterways in Sheffield would become a subcat of :Category:Rivers in South Yorkshire, creating another oddity. Upon further investegation I also found that :Category:Canals in England is actually a subcat of :Category:Rivers of England, which also doesn't make sense.
What I propose is that a new category called Waterways be created. While categories with just rivers can continue to use Rivers in X others with both canals and rivers can use Waterways in X and remove the problem of having to put the canals an inaccurate category. josh (talk) 19:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Rivers in X 

message: John Dee is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 21:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[John Dee]]

message: I do not know if this is the right place for the following question.  If not, please direct me!
My question is: Is there any general policy on a preference established English names or names in the local languages for geographical names in en:wiki?  Alternatively, are there different etablished policies (one for names of countries, another for provinces, a third one for rivers, etcetera)?
If there are not, then I guess that the general en:wiki guide lines should hold, i.e., more or less 'use the name most English speaking people would be expected to look for (and redirect from variants)'.  However, more English speakers would look for Calcutta than for Kolkata, I suppose.
My reason for asking is that I've noted that a number of us Swedish speakers have been moving names of Swedish (and even Finnish) provinces back and forth between traditional English or modern Swedish name forms (Scania ←→ Skåne; Dalecarlia ←→ Dalarna; Ostrobothnia ←→ Österbotten).  Now, we could work out our own policy, if this was on the sv:wiki; but it is in en:wiki, and if there are some general en:wiki guidelines we should apply them in the first place.  Besides, probably we Swedes are less apt to decide whether Dalarna or Dalecarlia is more wellknown to English speakers, than e. g. the British are.
Furthermore, a general policy for a name space is much more encyclopædic; and this concerns not just Sweden and Finland.  (Munich or München?  Bretagne or Brittany?  Braunschweig or Brunswick?  Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, stayed at the town Elsingore on the island Zealand or Amlete, Prince of Danmark, stayed at the city Helsingør on the island Sjælland :-) JoergenB 19:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Naming conventions perhaps is what you're looking for. --JAXHERE | Talk 16:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  English or native names? 

message: I have just recently started a project dealing with Germany, noting that there is another existing project dealing with Prussia out there as well. We would very likely be adding both banners to several projects, with potential further banners for areas which have fallen into border disputes and areas in the old German Democratic Republic being potentially in other extant or future projects as well. Would your project be interested in setting up your own project banner in a manner similar to that of Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia, which allows for indication of the various specific projects in the area below the main project banner space. User:Badbilltucker/Australia banner shows all the various "additions" to the banner, any one or more of which can be made visible individually. I also think, particularly in areas which have been added to various countries over the years, such a generalized banner might be the best approach. Thank you for your response. Badbilltucker 18:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of project banner 

message: Mount St. Helens is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy (Talk) 03:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mount St. Helens]]

message: I am trying to get a discussion going on the Flora of <region>/Fauna of <region>/Biota of <region> categories.
Please see Category talk:Biota by country GameKeeper 13:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with the usage of sub-categories of [[:Category:Biota by country]]

message: Colditz Castle is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy (Talk) 17:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Colditz Castle]]

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory.
The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 14:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Hi, everyone, I recently stumbled upon the article English Channel, and I would like to point out some areas of improvement.
First, the article has a very large table of notable Crossings. Tables aren't supposed to be so big.
Second, the whole article is dominated by a huge section called "notable channel crossings". There is very little mention of anything else. A solution is to make a sub-article called English Channel crossings.
I think we should have more people working on this article. Anyone is interested to work on this article with me? --¿¡Exir Kamalabadi?!Join Esperanza! 12:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Channel 

message: Two articles have a special kind of conflict which I think only geographers can solve:  Pacific Northwest and Cascadia. Each of these describes an area for which there exists a number of quite different definitions, and several of the definitions in one are the same as in the other. I am thinking of changing Cascadia to a disambiguation page (between Cascadia subduction zone, Cascadia, Oregon and the Cascadia separatist movement) and merging the geographic content from that page into Pacific Northwest. Maybe I (or better someone who's good at drawing maps) could draw a map that compares all different definitions. Is that a good idea? — Sebastian (talk) 10:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to deal with multi-faceted overlaps? 

message: right|thumb|230px|Different definitions of Cascadia.
The article Pacific Northwest needs a map showing the many different definitions of the term. (I will try to sort them into a table shortly.) How can I find someone who's good at drawing maps? — Sebastian (talk) 03:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great - thanks a lot! I'm roughly thinking of something like the map to the right, which I cobbled together with MS Paint. This is currently under discussion at Talk:Pacific Northwest#Changing picture. I will get back to you when that discussion reaches a conclusion. — Sebastian (talk) 18:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How to find someone who can draw a map?

message: Bath is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 19:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Bath]]

message: As there is currently no WikiProject Antarctica, nor any task force/work group dealing with Antarctica within any WikiProject in wikipedia, as far as I know, I've recently begun a proposed  WikiProject Antarctica page. The rather limited scope of this proposed project, and the fact that just about every page in the scope of the proposed project is geographical, makes me believe that this work could be easily accomplished by a group fuctioning within the Geography WikiProject. Please indicate to me whether or not you would find such an arrangement acceptable. If for whatever reason you find it unacceptable, I will probably try to start it on my own. In any event, any interested parties should indicate their interest in the interested parties section of the Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects#Antarctica section. robertjohnsonrj 20:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antarctica 

message: Carlsbad Caverns National Park has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
Sandy (Talk) 22:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Carlsbad Caverns National Park FAR

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards