Talk:High School Musical 2/Archive 2

message: I've gone and archived that abomination of a talk page. This is a talk page for the article, not a forum for discussion. Please pay
attention to WP:NOT#FORUM. That means only discussion on improving the article belongs here. Not "OMG I LOOK LIEK VANESSA!" Please take the fan girl discussion else where, thanks. -Sukecchi 16:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive

message: Do we really need the "disneychannel.com has put a poll." section? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.122.218.191 (talk) 03:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Need it?

message: I think a credible source is needed to back up the claim that the three cast members signed new contracts; NY Post is highly unreliable and def. not a recommended/credible source. Storched 02:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New contracts?

message: It looks like somone took the concert photo and edited in Zac Efron (who looks like a paper doll in that one). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Snoborder93 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is up with that picture?

message: I saw in the Internet Movie Database that there is going to be a Trever Bolton. (I saw earlier someone said that site wasn't reliable?) Anyway, does anyone know who that is? He is supposedly played by Matthew Miles Carter who was also a basketball dancer in HSM 1. Is this true? 69.219.160.227 14:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDb doesn't always fact check, which is why they're not 100% reliable.  And we'll be best served by waiting till Disney releases cast info about who our myster 'Trevor' is. - Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 14:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is Trever Bolton?

message: *According to the Washington Post and Christina Vidal's website, She along with Raven Symone will have cameos as waiters in the movie. This was just announced.—Preceding unsigned comment added by LAUGH90 (talk • contribs) 
i did not Know That.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.253.33.189 (talk) 
Can you give us a link before you add this again? I can't even find Vidal's website... -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 20:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's just a cameo appearance, why does it even need to be mentioned? -Sukecchi 15:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cristina Vidal and Raven Symone

message: In the article, Chris Warren Jr., the guy who plays Zeke, it is said that he will reprise his role in High School Musical 2, so should we add him, or should that article be altered?  Teeple12 23:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's un-citeable information and shouldn't be in either article without a reliable resource. And yes, it's in IMDb, which doesn't always fact check, so ... probably, but it's spec right now. We don't need it. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 23:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zeke 

message: Someone added info stating that Sara Paxton was supposed to be in this movie. Can this be sourced? WAVY 10 22:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about just deleted?  She's not in IMDB or any news, there's nothing on a search for 'Tallulah Robinson'.  It's gone -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 22:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sara Paxton? 

message: This shouldn't even be in there. It was a loose rumor without facts. If you DECIDE to use it to chronicle history you ethically need to make some modifications. Actually the wiki information and dates are wrong as well. They're off by a full week - which helps prove misguided the rumor was. The story broke on a Friday (business day) and the contracts were resolved on a Saturday or Sunday? I don't think so.
FACT: On Feburary 9th TMZ reported "Reps for Hudgens, Bleu and Tisdale all declined comment"
FACT: TMZ.com never called the reps for Corbin Bleu and Tisdale.
FACT: On February 9th TMZ reported Ashley and Corbin weren't going  to rehearsal and  "that while the cast is expected to fly to Utah on Sunday (Feb. 11th) to begin rehearsals, Tisdale, Bleu and Hudgens may well be staying put until their deals can be revised for the better." (Key word they used MAY)
FACT: On February 11th Ashley, Corbin and Vanessa were on a plane to Utah. (Documented by Tommy2.Net)
http://tommy2.net/content/?p=1429
Please research how often the cast of High School Musical has done work or even mentioned at TMZ and Tommy2.Net to decide who should be the authority on this story. Tommy2.Net is a credible site and has been mentioned at AshleyTisdale.com, ChuckyK.com (HSM choreographer) and in several 'print' publications including the following.
MN Daily
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2006/04/06/67879
Boston Magazine
http://bostonmagazine.com/arts_entertainment/articles/the_tween_machine
24.118.25.164 03:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HOLDING OUT? 

message: I see she will have a cameo of some sort.  WAVY 10 15:20, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley Cyrus 

message: zh:歌舞青春268.32.20.36 18:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Chinese Wikipedia's article link 

message: Something is wrong with the Infobox.  It almost seems like someone copied it from some Bollywood movie but never actually bothered to change the names.  Could someone with more knowledge of the movie fix it? Drewcifer3000 21:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, sorry, i'm not sure how to re apply older versions and it's been done line by line, you can see where i'ts been done on the history page so we probably need a mod/admin person to sort out the vandalism tooDyna Dude 22:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infbox 

message: It has been confirmed that the film will premiere in the UK in september, as i have emailed disney and they confirmed this... Can this be added somewhere? i added it but it was removed..
comments?  Amstoakes 22:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  International release dates 

message: My New Philosophy - Karissa and Troy
Who is Karissa? And Trever Bolton? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.186.167.99 (talk) 09:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who knows. No one's been able to cite a single source for those, and I'm deleting them every time. People, CITE YOUR SOURCE! -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 13:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songlist 

message: Since in the plot it mentions martha, kelsi, and jason, shouldnt they be added to the cast?70.106.181.119 20:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot/Characters 

message: Please rectify the Miley Cyrus mention. I don't believe a cameo appearance on a movie (as any character) qualifies for inclusion in the primary cast.  WAVY 10 17:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved it to production notes, you can edit it too you know :) -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 17:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Cameo Does Not Equal Main Cast 

message: On Jason Dolley's wikipedia page it says he plays Arthur Pendragon in HSM2 - Is this true?75.63.64.238 16:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Darn vandals. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 16:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Dolley 

message: A big note for you people who think Hannah Montana is in HSM2; she's not. Miley Cyrus has a cameo, which means she does not speak or sing profusely (or at all). As a matter of fact, the camera will be on her for probably no longer than five seconds before zooming to someone else. There will be no time to introduce her as Hannah Montana, and therefore any "Miley Cyrus as Hannah Montana" claims are bogus. ("Miley Cyrus as Random Girl #5" but not as Hannah Montana.)
A cameo is when they appear in the movie as an extra for a short period of time. There's usually no acting involved, no singing, no anything; as I said above, you'll be lucky if the camera is on her at all. You may need good eyes to see her! She will not have any songs on the soundtrack, no HM episodes will make any mention of it. She's just going to be a random extra. That's what a cameo's all about.
Don't you think if she was actually in the movie, news sources all over would be advertising the heck out of this fact? Besides, why would Disney merge Hannah and HSM? Zei-ness 02:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They also put Brittany Snow as some Tallulah character.  WAVY 10 16:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I moved her back to production notes, where she was before all this wackiness started. She's not main cast, we don't even have a citation to verify this anymore!  Yoinks! -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 23:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the best thing to do is delete it entirely until it can be sourced. It's prob just some fan who wants her to be in it. I think there would be many sources if she was actually going to be in it. --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 03:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Miley's cameo 

message: Who is Tallulah Bolton?  (On the HSM3 page, it says Brittany Snow plays her.)
answer:
According to the profile on Brittany Snow, she will also be in HSM2 as Troy's sister, and also Ryan Evans's love interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuffster (talk • contribs) 
:IMdB is not reliable in this.  Consider it fancrut until we can externally verify it (which means: If you can't cite a newspaper or magazine, don't add it). -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 20:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone added Ms. Snow again, this time the character's she supposedly plays has the first name "Danielle" (it's also on her page).  WAVY 10 13:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A more recent entry (since deleted) resurrected the Tallulah character, this time claiming Amanda Bynes was playing her, which I'm positive I would have heard about somewhere if there was any truth to it. WAVY 10 14:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brittany Snow as Tallulah Bolton?

message: On the official High School Musical 2 website, the plot is slightly different and there are more details about character's devopment.  Should we mix our current plot with that plot?  Teeple12 16:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: Who are these people?
*Lucille Wing as Lucille Bolton
*Mark Taylor as Mr. Fulton
*Missi Peragram as Mrs. Evans
Sounds questionable.  Has it been cited?  WAVY 10 14:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yet again, the fanwankery factory is out in force. Removed. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 20:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other members of the Bolton family?

message: Should those be included in the titles (especially considering they are not connected in any way with either of the original Grease films)? I am leaning toward deleting the mentions?  WAVY 10 14:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For HSM 1 yes, because it was titled Greece 3 in some countries, I dunno if HSM2 has the same title or not. But HSM1 was titles Greece 3 in some countries. --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 14:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Grease (insert number here)

message: The main cast was interviewed on ABC's Good Morning America July 2nd.  WAVY 10 18:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Good Morning America]] 

message: Anyone know anything about this entry?
"In an interview with azcentral.com, Lucas Grabeel stated that the one musical number he starred in (humuhumunukunukua'pua'a)was cut, to be saved as bonus material for the take-home dvd.(6)"  WAVY 10 13:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *SIIIIGH* Vandalism.  A search of AZ Central only mentions him as a Disney Alum in 06, and they're really good about putting up articles ASAFP. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 14:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is this?

message: The details are coming out regarding the August 17th debut of High School Musical 2 on Disney Channel. The premiere will be hosted from a backyard barbeque with the movie’s stars, Zac Efron, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Tisdale, Lucas Grabeel, Corbin Bleu, Monique Coleman, Olesya Rulin, Chris Warren, Jr., KayCee Stroh and Ryne Sanborn, and with director/choreographer Kenny Ortega.
It’s also been confirmed a new episode of Hannah Montana will air following the show guest starring Hollywood Records recording artists the Jonas Brothers. They will join Hannah Montana for her first ever full-length duet, performing an original song created for this episode. In the storyline, Miley Stewart is jealous when her dad, Robby, is songwriting with Kevin, Joe and Nick Jonas. Starring are Miley Cyrus and Billy Ray Cyrus, Emily Osment and Jason Earles.
Then of course for the encore performances throughout the weekend. On August 18th a Wildcat Chat featuring an interactive element where viewers get their questions answered by the stars of High School Musical 2. Plus, on 19th they’ll be airing a Sing-Along version.
http://tommy2.net/content/?p=1676
:Can you source this? WAVY 10 13:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tommy2.net purports itself to being in the know, and having contact with folks on the show.  This was the site who's runner was upset we listed the citable info about the salary dispute.  While I don't doubt that they have this information, they're not really a citable source since they're a fan site. Which sucks :P -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 14:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What makes something a 'fan' site and something that is not? Obviously the Disney people take care of that site and it's pretty safe to assume there is a decent amount of money being made.--75.64.158.182 21:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A 'fan' site is run by a fan. Tommy2 is run by a fan, not Disney.  Disney.com is run by Disney :) -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 21:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Heh. Having not seen that (I bought the cds online), that means little.  Indigo Girls CDs thank fan sites.  Basically, it's not a reliable, trusted media outlet.  And not, I'm not disputing the information!  I just don't think they're credible enough for Wikipedia's guidelines. Which sucks donkey parts cause it's useful, but it's on that edge.  And what sucks more?  New York Post is a trusted media outlet. And it's six inches from being a tabloid. If someone can find a news outlet that supports that info, we're good! -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 00:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'll try saying this another way ... If someone can give media exposure wherein Tommy2.net is mentioned as a source (that is can you find a source where they're cited as the source), then we have verifiability.  I really wish they'd cite their sources, though.  Basically we're being asked to take their word for this without them even saying something like 'According to sources at Disney....'.  Check out WP:RS. Posting about it here would be the best way to go about it :) -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 18:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason for my remark is that the previous post read more like a press release than a defense for using it.  WAVY 10 19:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My reason for my remark is that outside of the various times tommy2.net followers have posted here, I've never heard of it. It's a website without a physical magazine/print, I've never seen it referenced by other news sources, and they don't credit their sources.  I haven't seen any reason to trust them any more than I would a blog.  -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd go NO on the PerezHilton.com site.  WAVY 10 19:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you provide a source wherein tommy2.net is credited, by an external site, preferable a major news outlet, but a kid magazine like tiger beat will do, as the source of information?  If you can't, then I stick by my guns. If you can, then that's all I ever wanted :) Third party proof. If it really is all that, then this shouldn't be hard. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: If it falls under this, then yes. That's what I'm saying.  -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 23:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I opened up a dialogue over at  Reliable Sources/Noticeboard since we seem to be at an impasse.  I feel tommy2.net counts as a personal webpage, or blog (by the Wikipedia sources definition) and therefore while accurate isn't good to use as a source.  One possible way of doing that is by third-party approval. I.E. another website that is reputable cites this one. It's not the only way to do it, but the first one that came to mind.  As they don't cite their sources (See Futon Critic for a site that does), it's hard to just look at this and go 'aha!'  Since it's sketchy, I think it's our responsibility to be able to back up what we believe.  So please, help me :) Don't accuse me, since you could spend the time finding a way to prove your point (which, again, I'm not opposing, I'm just wanting to verify first). -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 23:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Find some secondary sources that back up what Tommy2.net says, and we can add the stuff in. Otherwise we're blowing hot air. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 17:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

text: See? Was that so hard? :) -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

text: The information is slightly different between the two accounts, so I went with the one that's already reliable. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 20:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

text: You need to read WP:RS and WP:V. We do not report breaking news, we wait until someone (like Reuters) confirms it because then we know that a reliable secondary source confirmed it. We do not credit those you claim broke the story (Reuters does not cite them). For the last time... the criteria for inclusion is verifiability not truth. We are not a gossip site. If you do not accept that then too bad... because that's how it is. Also, and I can't believe this had to be explicitly stated, PerezHilton.com is not a reliable source. Nor is a news letter by a kid in junior high. Why are you so eager to get as many links as possible to tommy2.net on Wikipedia? MartinDK 11:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd also like to add that this is not a job (I don't get paid for this, I'm not even an Admin) and the point of Wikipedia is not 'breaking news' but documentation of facts.  Once the facts are proven, does it matter who's cited or that the recorded history is out there? I care about the latter, you care about the former. And in that scenario, Wikipedia's not the place for you. You're just going to get upset, and I'm sorry about that. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 13:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Programming Info Released

message: The page is 31 KB. Can we archive the first half of the page? WAVY 10 16:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive

message: I think the information about the music videos should be moved under the soundtrack section.
Agreed.  WAVY 10 18:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Music Video info

message: Who is this character?  WAVY 10 16:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trevor Bolton? 

message: On the italian wikipedia there are more releases date! Write them! --81.208.83.241 08:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Release Date

message: In the box, it write : Followed by High School Musical 1, it's wrong, it's High School Musical 3!
*I edited it back to High School Musical 3. It was probably vandalism.AquafireGal 11:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Followed by High School Musical 1? 

message: The article says 9:00 p.m., but I saw a commercial on Disney Channel Saturday saying 8:00 p.m. (The normal DCOM premiere time). Which is correct?  WAVY 10 15:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume 8:00pm since that's when most DCOMs premier. I also wrote it in my calendar as 8pm so I would think that was what the commercials said. --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 15:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Time is It? (Air time) 

message: The plot ending is spoiled in the plot area, and thus there should be warning. I'm not 100% sure how to put these warnings up myself properly, so if someone could do that, that would be great!
:It doesn't seem fair to spoil the movie before it has even aired. I think the brief synopsis that is provided is fine for now. Once the movie has aired, the plot can be updated. Danielh8675 14:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP policy, a section entitled "Plot" will obviously contain spoilers, so no spoiler tags are needed. SpikeJones 18:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoilers

message: According to www.TVplanner.comcast.net it seems to suggest that disney will air 2 more encore presentations of this movie. can someone confirm this and then add to the page?
:If you mean Saturday and Sunday, Disney always does that with new DCOM's.  WAVY 10 13:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every time isn't important just the first three since it is opening weekend. And to point out out what happened on the different days, Saturday was the wildcat chat, and Sunday was the sing a long.Rosario lopez 03:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comcast TV

message: I personally think that we should revise this article to more resemble the High School Musical article. I mean, we could add a song section and other section that the HSM article has that this article does not. Obviously, we cannot add the Other Media, Awards, and DVD sections until those things come into play. But the characters (which would replace the cast) and the song section we could add.Snoborder93 01:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here...once the movie comes out!  WAVY 10 17:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More Like the HSM Article

message: I've seen the movie on-demand on Cablevision already. Is it okay if you let me update the plot after the premiere because I know it will be a revert/edit mess minutes after the credits start. I have a confirmed and perfect plot ready for Wikipedians to see. It seems appropriate enough for Wikipedia to understand and view. If you need to ask me questions, ask now. I am still following the notice of not editing the plot with the complete spoiler and only asking for permission. Accepting this may prevent messes around the article's plot section. --AOL Alex 20:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After the (official {meaning Friday}) premiere is fine with me. WAVY 10 20:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yesh, also, i'm afraid that the one on IMdb is a bit too long... shouldn't someone shorten it here without editing IMdb's full plot? --AOL Alex 00:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  May I? 

message: Iv'e seen many times on here (And other articles)that Miley Cyrus is is doing a cameo in the movie. Yet, I don't see it in here. Can some one who's already seen it (Thanks to Disney on Demand) prove it, then add it? By the way, there's a 1 in 4 chance she's in it, since it was on a poll people took to choose little things that might happen in the movie (about 1/2 a year ago). Abcw12 09:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some of the editors felt that, since it's a brief cameo, it's not exactly important enough to include on this page (as opposed to Miley's page).  WAVY 10 16:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why it's not important. She's in the background, dancing with some guy there's no detail about it. Sign your posts properly please, with four "~" -Sukecchi 21:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree.  Maybe this cameo could be in a trivia section.Mr Kupo 05:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree, considering Disney.com had an online poll to select the Hannah Montana star the viewers wanted to see in the movie. Not necessarily needing of its own category, but a mention would be nice. SkittlzAnKomboz 02:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: No one said she sang ANY of the songs. She was seen DANCING near the end of "All for One".  WAVY 10 Fan 16:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley Cyrus cameo 

message: If someone that is able to edit the page can add this link, or the information that his link provides. Thank you!
Cheetahg29 18:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Meaningless.  Cars can have tags from any state. SpikeJones 18:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can Someone please add this! 

message: I read the Life section for today's (August 17) USA Today, and the reviewers give HSM2 a 3-star review. Since I have never seen a DCOM (including HSM1) achieve a rating higher than 2.5 stars, would that rating prove especially notable?  WAVY 10 20:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it could be incorporated into the 'ratings' section if we renamed it to 'reception'. If you can provide a link, I think it's notable. Dh993 13:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it right here. You'll have to look under the Troy/Gabriella picture.  WAVY 10 14:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved everything having to do with reception under one section, and I added a tidbit from the USA article. Hope that looks good. Dh993 15:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review in [[USA Today]]/Notability 

message: You meant every country has to have its premiere in order for me to edit and add the plot? Because 10 seconds later, someone reverted it, as if they wanted every country to have its premiere first (Including Italy and Spain). --AOL Alex 04:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed your plots as a copyright violation. --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 23:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  You meant... 

message: Does anyone know how many people watched the movie premier on Aug 17?
Nielson will probably release ratings info in a couple days. Dh993 15:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you saw it Friday, you became witnesses to cable television history, as this movie has apparently set an all-time basic cable record with about a 17.24 rating (which probably would make it #1 in summer network broadcasts).  WAVY 10 13:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RATINGS 

message: Since this is a premiere weekend, I think we should add a special showings feature:
High School Musical 2 Special Showings	Notes                                                                                                                  	Dates
Premiere                              	The premiere of High School Musical 2.                                                                                 	August 17, 2007
Wildcat Chat                          	A special chat with the High School Musical 2 stars in which viewers send emails to them.                              	August 18, 2007
Sing-Along                            	A special sing-along edition of the movie. This is the first time Disney Channel has ever done a sing-along so quickly.	August 19, 2007
Besides, the events should have been already added in Release Information. Calebaldwinjun9 02:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it can be touched upon briefly in the release information, but a whole section devoted to it seems unnecessary and "ad-like". Dh993 15:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Airings 

message: I added Mr. Fulton and Mrs. Evans to the cast list and I was going to add Mr. Evans, but I have looked EVERYWHERE and cannot find out who plays him. I haven't paid much attention to the credits of the movie so that didnt help. Does anybody know so we can add it?Snoborder93 22:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mr. Evans

message: I'm probably going to watch it the next time it comes on and intend to take notes.  WAVY 10 23:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character List 

message: It has always been said throught HSM 1 and 2 that there are six main characters. (Troy, Gabriella, Sharpay, Ryan, Chad, and Taylor). So if this has been stated, then why do some people keep adding Jack Bolton, Mr. Fulton, and Mr. Evans here? Candyo32 03:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are in the opening credits so the infobox should reflect that. They are entitled to the "Starring" billing as a matter of production protocol, which is what the info box should reflect. I don't have a problem moving them from "Lead Characters" to "Supporting characters" in the character list if that is the role they actually play. The movie itself is a primary source and should be used for factual data like cast, crew and who gets credited for what. All I request is that people keep the cast list in credited order for now until descriptions of the characters can be filled out. After that is done a pruning pass for unimportance should be done. I think now is too soon for that. --NrDg 03:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the 3 from lead to supporting based on your reasons. Left them in info box.--NrDg 03:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Cast 

message: Please add:  Official Mobile Website - HSM2.mobi to external links.--AlfredWalsh 17:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That link may only be accessed by MOBILE PHONES. If a computer would access it, it would give a "Mobile-only" page. So no. --AOL Alex 20:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it wont. I get it to work. -- Whiteandnerdy111 (talk) 20:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Care to give a reason why it should be on there? It looks useless to me. -Sukecchi (talk) 20:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: It makes little sense to me for these to be two separate sections, but I'm unsure how to go about merging them. Do we take out the USA & Canada releases from the table and change section heading to "International Releases" or do we simply move the table and add as a subheading for the Release information section? Hmm... - ǀ Mikay ǀ 11:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release information / Release dates 

message: in the film, it seems like what the movie is trying to tell us is that Troy changes. How does he change? If it means character, it's pretty hard to notice. All the change I see is Troy getting new oppurtunities and embracing them. Also, I didn't really see why the song "Gotta Go My Own Way" would have much emotion. All I see in that scene is Gabriella leaving a country club and Troy disappointed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.43.20.53 (talk) 13:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the song served as a wake-up call of sorts.  WAVY 10 13:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Wikipedia is not a forum...  Codelyoko193  Talk 03:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusion

message: what was the original name of the movie before that had hsm 2, i know it was like hsm: something....anyone know what it was? THANKS! --Yankeesrj12 19:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this relevant to the discussion of the HSM2 article? See WP:FORUM, please. Dh993 02:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: um yes it is --Yankeesrj12 16:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: HELP!

message: there are new fun packs that includes 4 trading cards, 3 stickers, from Topps. its avaiable at target, walmart, cvs... its avaible from september!! ADD THIS PLEASE :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.22.234 (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are so many pieces of merchandise being released in regards to HSM2 that if we were to include every single one, the article would read like an ad (see WP:ADVERT). I think notable merchandise like DVD releases is okay, but stickers/trading cards, etc. can be brushed aside. Dh993 02:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "FUN PACK" trading cards from Topps 

message: In the Production Section, someone has written that Zac Efron did not actually sing in this movie due to Hairspray commitments, and that Drew Seeley did, as in High School Musical 1, however, it has a citation link leading to an article stating that Zac Efron DID sing in HSM2. Is this just Vandalism or someone not reading the article properly?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarletsugar (talk • contribs) 13:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the error has been fixed. Dh993 15:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drew Seeley 'Miming' Vandalism? 

message: The High School Musical 2 premiere was dazzled by stars....
http://z.about.com/d/christianteens/1/0/N/-/-/-/HSM2.jpg  the cast with the director
Zac Efron and Vanessa Anne Hudgens looked superb together
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/14/0000042114_20070815145906.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/10/0000042110_20070815142656.jpg   Ashley rocked in the white dresssss!!!!!!!
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/03/0000042103_20070815142635.jpg      And here's Lucas looking both cute and funny!!!
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/17/0000042117_20070815145915.jpg   Monique with Zac!!
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0coX2aZ3Pt7kZ/340x.jpg
Selena Gomez looking all cute with Minnie Mouse!!!!
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/02/0000042102_20070815142632.jpg Miley Cyrus at the premiere with Minnie Mouse...
http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/High-School-Musical-2_529535.jpg
Emily Osment looking cute....
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/21/08/0000042108_20070815142650.jpg     Cody looking handsome with Mickey Mouse....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.207.199 (talk) 16:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  High School Musical 2 Premiere