Talk:Lo mai gai

message: This is an archive of a failed suggest merge with zongzi kept for historical interst. Please post comment in new section.
Seems that this is a type of zongzi.  Suggest merging this with zongzi.  Badagnani 02:39, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: probably so. SchmuckyTheCat 17:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not. See below. -- KTC 02:08, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree. It may be consider to be a type of zongzi by many, but why can't different types of zongzi have their own entries? — Instantnood 19:01, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it results in jumbles of stubs that will never be more than that.  SchmuckyTheCat 20:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wiki is not paper. Just cause no one around at the moment can expand it doesn't mean it can't be expanded by someone that know the history, tradition etc. of the various types. -- KTC 02:08, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree. Zongzi aren't identical to lo mai kai. A lo mai kai is always a chicken-rice wrap, while a zongzi may contain other kinds of meat or even no meat at all. They're also shaped a little differently. A zongzi is usually somewhat triagular-shaped and the leaf is bounded with some kind of string or band, a lo mai kai is usually just wrapped and ball-shaped. There are some other differences as well, but the point is that the two aren't the same. --Yuje 10:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Strong Object. They are two different food eaten at different location / occasion by Chinese people. 糯米雞 (Lo mai gai) is a type of 點心 (dim sum) eaten at all occasion, whereas 粽 (Zongzi) is something that's only normally eaten around the time of 端午節 (Dragon Boat Festival). -- KTC 02:08, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree. They are two different food. ;-)--Simon Shek 07:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Strong object. Tey are chalk and cheese. -- Jerry Crimson Mann 12:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

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*Merge to Dim sum.  the article is a stub and will always be a stub, the contents should just be merged into the dim sum article.
:I made the move this would revert.  I don't think the current title is very good, but I am entirely unconvinced that anyone uses "lo mai kai" in english and am unconvinced it is a good article title either.  I went to a 99 Ranch Market and couldn't find "lo mai kai" on any product that resembled what this article describes.  I'll see about going to a hakka café tomorrow for breakfast and see what they list on the menu. SchmuckyTheCat 10:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. Even though lo mai gai is a specific type of zongzi, they can have separate articles. LDHan 16:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: It's nor mai gai on the menu at my local hakka café.  That should be worked into the article, but I'm unsure if "nor" is a hakka term in place of "lo" or if it refers to a different ingredient in the mix. SchmuckyTheCat 21:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. That character is pronounced as n- in Cantonese and most other Chinese spoken variants. Nonetheless in modern Cantonese, n- and l- are allophones to some. — Instantnood 18:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I added a note about the free variation of n- and l- in Cantonese that results in the spelling of "lo mai gai". While the more standard pronunciation uses n-, WP:COMMONNAME specifies that the more common name should be used for the article title, and "lo mai gai" appears to be the spelling that is more commonly used when the word is rendered in English sources. — Umofomia (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Nor mai gai