Talk:Nastia Liukin

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message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Shannon Miller has a combined total of 16 World and Olympic medals, and I'm pretty sure Nastia Liukin only has 14, but this article says she's tied Miller's record for both Worlds and Olympics.  To tie the record, she would have had to have won 7 medals in Beijing. If you know, maybe change it?  I'm not completely confident that I'm right so I'm going to leave it.
Nastia has 9 world medals tied with Miller for World medals ONLY. Miller has 7 Olympic medals overall.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.130.116 (talk) 05:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tied with Shannon Miller?

message: Under Junior Career, this lines appears:
"Nastia Liukin is the best known gymnast in the galaxy. Unfortunately, she takes that for granted."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euphorya (talk • contribs) 21:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pulling that out. It was just a drive-by IP posting, from the look of it--not anything any of the editors here would have taken seriously or allowed to remain. DanielEng 22:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non neutral point of view

message: I would like to know what song (the one she uses on the floor and the one she just won the gold medal all-around with) is. Thanks. Smuckers It has to be good 05:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Her routine song

message: Hi, I'm a little confused: is it standard English to drop the -a from a Russian-born woman's last name? As you probably know "Liukin" is masculine and "Liukina" is feminine. --71.112.145.102 (talk) 08:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an article somewhere (it might be in the references) that states that when the family came to the USA, they all took the form 'Liukin' for their English-language names to avoid confusion. She's still 'Liukina' in Russian. DanielEng (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There wouldn't need to be. It's not a name she has ever used in English and it's not a name anglophone readers would normally think to search for. The Russian version of the page, which is linked on the left, has her Russian name. DanielEng (talk) 04:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: About her surname

message: why does her Music preference say "Dark Eyes by Arthur Akopyan" when the actual page for "Dark Eyes" has no mention of Akopyan?  does anyone have a reference on how Akopyan is involved with this, is he a performer?
Anatoly.bourov (talk) 15:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: reference for music authorship?

message: I see, In the all-around final she technically accumulated the same total as Chellsie Memmel, but a scoring system that truncated the individual apparatus marks, as opposed to using the full scores or rounding up, artificially lowered Liukin's total score and she placed second. Could someone point us to a source that explains this better than the two provided? It's pretty obscure, I know, but quirky enough to be interesting. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fractions

message: It should be Анастаси́я (На́стя) Вале́рьевна Лю́кина
Dvv (talk) 14:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen it both ways in the Russian press, and on the Russian wiki the title is without the accents but the text is with accents. So I'm confused. Any more Russian speakers here who can chime in? What should it be? DanielEng (talk) 16:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Thank you for commenting here. It's appreciated! To clarify one more time, then, the current Russian name--without stress--that appears in the article is completely correct, and isn't misspelled, etc.? I've matched it up to the Russian Wiki version, but I'll double check here. DanielEng (talk) 08:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the way the name spelled now is correct.  The accents can be used, but are not required. In fact, their use is usually restricted to helping little kids learn to read, in books aimed at teaching Russian for non-native speakers, or sometimes in a dictionary to help pronunciation of rare or complicated words. If I wanted to teach someone how to pronounce the Russian name Maxim (mahk-SEEM), I'd spell it in Cyrillic with an accent in the appropriate place: Макси́м. In English I might underline the appropriate letter: Maxim. Now, Russians obviously don't need the accents because they know how to pronounce names and words, so it would be completely redundant. The accent marks merely indicate stress, they have no phonetic value of their own. Which brings up an issue: why would anyone on English Wikipedia need to know her name in Russian? If they have never taken a Russian language class then the accent marks' purpose will be lost to them, and those who have might need them to learn how to say her name in Russian correctly. What I have seen in a few articles, such as Anna Kournikova is that the accent mark is left out of common names and patronymics, and left only for the surname.--71.112.145.102 (talk) 19:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Accents are not only used for teaching the language there are also standard in dictionary articles (in Russian). BTW, Maria Sharapova's name in Russian in her Wiki entry is spelled with accents...Papushin (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: a minor change in the Russian spelling of the name

message: The russian names should appear as redirects.
*Анастасия "Настя" Валерьевна Люкина
** Анастасия Валерьевна Люкина
** Анастасия Люкина
*Анастаси́я (На́стя) Вале́рьевна Лю́кина
** Анастаси́я Вале́рьевна Лю́кина
** Анастаси́я Лю́кина
** На́стя Лю́кина
70.51.11.210 (talk) 14:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree completely. A user who would be searching for Анастасия Люкина would likely be on the Russian Wikipedia, where she can be found under her Russian name. Also, as a test, if you type Анастасия "Настя" Валерьевна Люкина in the search box, this page is the only result that comes up, so on the off chance that someone would be searching for an English page with her Russian name, they'd still get here. DanielEng (talk) 15:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: I think that it would be better to make the following edit: Nastia Liukin was born in Moscow and moved to the United States "as a young child" to "at the age of two."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wdot (talk • contribs) 08:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's already in the body of the article. The lead is about just getting the gist of the article across, so "young child" is appropriate there. DanielEng (talk) 08:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor but worthwhile edit: Change "as a young child" to "at the age of two."

message: Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/usa/nastia+liukin/221207) has her height listed as 5'2" (1.60 m), not 5'3".  Maybe height should be changed? Hizrael (talk) 12:52, 17, August 2008 (UTC)
:Liukin's most current official recorded height and weight from the Beijing Olympic Organizing Committee indicate that she is now 5'3". , as do current news reports where Valeri directly comments on her height. . DanielEng (talk) 17:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Height

message: When she was talking to Oprah she mentioned something about some sort of inspiration board. What exactly did she call it? Bettyfizzw1 (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearance on Oprah

message: I think we should include Nastia's religion in the "Early Life and Family" section.  I know she is some form of Catholic, but I cannot verify it.  Can anyone find something that will verify this?
69.117.27.32 (talk) 01:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She's mentioned celebrating Christmas in January, so my guess would be that she is probably Russian Orthodox, like many Russians. Which isn't quite the same as Roman Catholicism. She's never come out and professed an association with any church. I agree that it would be a valuable addition to the article to have her religious background, but we need a reliable source before we can add it.  Found it: Russian Orthodox; not Catholic.DanielEng (talk) 03:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: Liukin was included in the category of originators of elements in artistic gymnastics but, there is no mention in the article of the fact that Liukin has performed a novel element or of the  element that would have been  named after Liukin (description or at least the event that the element is performed such as e.g. floor, beam, uneven bars, vault) . To my knowledge there is no element in the FIG CODE of Points 2009-2012 named after Anastasia Liukin. If such element exists it should be filled in the table under Eponymous skills. Moreover a reference to the page on the FIG Code of Points that lists the skils should be given. Until valid or any references are given to prove this fact I consider that  Liukin should be removed  from the category of Originators of elements. Lulubon (talk) 08:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Originator of element in artistic gymnastics

message: on her giving birth cowboys, lack of double back, froggy leg giants, UBmiserable dismount, piro code whoring, floor leg twisting.  I could dig up some Chinese criticisms so it looks all refernced and wiki compliant? 72.82.57.163 (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I was lying.  This was a form comment.  Boo N, go S.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.57.163 (talk) 19:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: how about a criticism section

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message: Came to this WP page because she appears most prominently in the national football playoffs ad for Subway. Going to the Superbowl: the Denver Broncos beating the New England Patriots.  I don't mind being a fan, and readers of Wikipedia expect more 'human interest' than a dry encyclopedia.  We are 'online'. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Nastia Liukin and her million-dollar smile have more 'face time' in this very expensive NFL TV ad than Michael Phelps and Apolo Ohno, the other two retired Olympic athletes.  She will rise in pop culture in America and the world.  This is important in editing her article in Wikipedia. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 00:03, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice TV ad for Subway 

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message: Infobox says "Choreographer	Natalya Marakova".  I wondered if this might be a misspelling of the famous ballerina and choreographer Natalia Makarova.  Can anyone clarify?  Most web hits for Natalia Marakova are in fact typos of that sort.  Thanks.  2601:648:8202:350:0:0:0:2B99 (talk) 23:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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