Talk:Cruz Azul

message: Cruz Azul is one of the best of Mexico
yes
1981 subchampeon vs pumas
1987 subchampeon vs chivas
1989 subchampeon vs america
1995 subchampeon vs necaxa
1999 subchampeon vs pachuca
2008 subchampeon vs santos  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.124.127.201 (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

message: Fans and the mexican media use several nicknames to refer to the Cruz Azul team: Los Cementeros, La Máquina, La Máquina Azul, La Máquina Cementera, La Máquina Celeste.
As for the translation of "La Máquina" the term "machine" should not be used as this word refers to a wide variety of devices, while in the context of the team "la máquina" is a short form of "La Máquina Locomotora", in reference to the cement freight trains used by Cooperativa Cruz Azul to haul their product, and therefore should be translated as "The Locomotive". The fans usually blow a locomotive steam whistle during home games. The word "celeste" refers to the shade of blue that is part of the team colors and as such should be translated as "sky-blue". Balderai 17:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicknames and translations

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message: Its not vandalism if the club short name, as stated in the table on the right is "Cruz Azul", hence its not a nickname. It is the name used commonly to refer to it. On the issue of "Frustrazul" nickname, news anchor Francisco Zea of Mexican Cadenatres TV Network has stated that, since abour 5 years, the fans that go to the Cruz Azul's stadium refer to their team as "Frustrazul" because they aren't happy with the way players and directives manage their team -this was a specially strong movement after Victor Garces, vicepresident of the team, was charged with fraud on the organization. Francisco Zea, being a die-hard Cruz Azul fan, actually has made public pleas in his programs -both on TV and in Cadenatres sister radio network Reporte 98.5- on favor of this moniker, which has adquired certain acceptance by other adult fans of the team.
I hope those that revert the changes made actually manage to read this instead of simply undoing the changes without knowing why they're made.
189.217.70.242 (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Frustrazul -> English: Failazul -> If you believe that put a negative nickname is correct, I don't think so. TbhotchTalk C. 02:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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