Talk:HHO Gas

message: I couldn't find any reference to an "HHO gas", apart from the company claiming they make it. I'm a chemistry students, and I've never heard of this. The article claims it's "A polymer of water", but acording to the description it sounds like an isomer. The article on water makes no mention of isomeric forms either. okedem 14:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax? 

message: http://www.watertorch.com/whatis/whatis1.html
http://www.watertorch.com/faq/faq1.html
wwhttp://www.eagle-research.com/browngas/whatisbg/whatis.html
:Well, they just prove my point: "Eagle-Research Inc. defines Brown's Gas (BG) as:
:The total mixture of gasses that evolve by electrolyzing water in an electrolyzer specifically designed NOT to separate the gasses. The BG mixture consists of diatomic hydrogen, monatomic hydrogen, diatomic oxygen, monatomic oxygen, water vapor and electrically expanded water." (my bold)
:They give no proof for the existence of monoatomic hydrogen of oxygen, and it's highly unlikely to find them in this form in gas phase.
:And even worse: 
:"Q.  If you want to neutralize radioactive waste, then:
:A. Brown's Gas is the answer to the largest problem the nuclear industry faces today!"
:What does this have to do with radioactive waste?! How will a good gas torch do anything for radioactive waste? This is absurd! okedem 08:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out the links on Yull Brown http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yull_Brown#External_links, he's the inventor of the gas that's proper name is Brown's Gas not HHO gas. The gas is supposedly made up of 36 isomers and allotropes, and the claims are much less than those up on other websites - also note that Eagle-Research is classed as promotional for its research as it's owned by a company that sells it. Also all those claims are possible if what they describe as true, burning in open air it should have a low BTU output as it's a gas with low density but as soon as you push it up against anything you increase the reaction rate dramatically which pushes up the BTU. Imploding would also be possible, this is (AFAIK) what happens when balloons are filled with hydrogen and oxygen gas although the reaction causes an explosion afterwards due to thermal heating. Finally Brown's Gas doesn't claim to be a free-energy and claims none of the radioactive waste treatment or anything else which is purported by other sources, it is apparently just another way of making H2-O2 gas through electrolysis and requires more energy to make than it creates. However if factually correct it would be a serious competitor for hydrogen fuel cells, which also require more energy in than they get out but this is negated by the fact solar powered cars don't work well and nuclear powered cars would make most people die of fear.--83.100.248.24 19:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links, sorta psuedo-intellectual but the best there is. 

message: "HHO" is not merely a hoax; it is a con game, and the con artists are using Wikipedia to promote their scam.  Take a look at this site (scroll about one screen down, to the screenshot of Wikipedia).
HHO should not "redirect" to "Oxyhydrogen" (nor should "HHO gas", or "HHO Gas"), because there is no such chemical terminology as HHO.  Water is referred to as "H2O, or sometimes even as HOH (reflecting the chemical nature of water, with the O joining two hydrogens), but never referred to as HHO.  The only reason people would refers to water as HHO is with the intent to deceive people.
This Wiki redirect is being used to steal money from people; it should be removed and then protected so that the con artists do not put it back up. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax is actually a Scam