Talk:American Eagle Flight 4184

message: Citations were requested for this section.  I revised this section to show that although the de-icing boots were extended back further on the chord, by order of the FAA, that amounted to little more than a cosmetic/political band aid, since the icing tests revealed that those planes could ice up all the way back to 23% of the wing chord and to 30% of the tail-plane chord (there have been numerous crashes over the years because of icing on the tail-plane).
I lifted quotations from my own article, at my own website, which is based a lot on the excellent and very detailed research data found in Stephen Fredrick's book.  Thus, I posted citations to both  my article and to his book.  I own that website and the copyright on the article, and hereby grant Wiki the GFDL license to use it.  I am not sure if I also need to fill out some kind of form, to make the license legal for Wiki.  I will appreciate any help on that point, if this is not sufficient.  It is difficult to email my website, due to the spam problem there, so contact me at b o b 9 3 2  at  g m a i l   dot  c o m, if I need to change or add anything, to comply with Wiki rules.  Thanks much.  EditorASC 03:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath 

message: I have restored the word "archaic," since it is a proper word to describe the FAA's terribly outdated icing certification rules.  The NTSB has used that word in the past, when it feels some of the FAA's regs are out of date.  Additionally, that word is used in the Fredrick book too, as part of a very extensive discussion on that issue.  And finally, it is used  by the Flight Safety Foundation (Protection Against Icing: A Comprehensive Overview  -- 248 pages) at http://flightsafety.org/fsd/fsd_jun-sep97.pdf, in its discussion of how unrealistic and old and outdated those certification regs really were. EditorASC (talk) 02:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: FAR part 25, appendix C

message: The article states that a lawsuit was brought, but was settled for a large amount of money. But it never says who was sued. American Eagle? Simmons? ATR? --Golbez (talk) 18:22, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I just reworded the article, removing the claim about a "lack of further ATR icing accidents". Most of this article was written before 2010, when Aero Caribbean Flight 883 crashed due to icing. There have mostly been maintenance edits since then. In light of that, I believe that this article could use an overhaul that goes beyond what I did. I will put a request for update box into the article. Renerpho (talk) 04:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It also does not mention TransAsia Airways Flight 791, another ATR 72 that crashed in 2002 due to icing. Renerpho (talk) 04:30, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article may be outdated 

message: Sends you to 404 error, "Sorry, we can't find what you're looking for" at Chicago Tribune website. 155.186.172.220 (talk) 04:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a dead url. I've repaired it. Do it yourself! see WP:DEADLINK for how to fix this issue. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 04:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number 9 in the references