Talk:William Irvine (soldier)

message: This piece of history doesn't make sense. It does match up with everything I found in some quick web searches, but the dates don't make sense. The Drum  Tower was a part of the defenses of Aberdeen, and would have been given to an experienced soldier. By 1323, Robert the Bruce had been fighting for his kingdom fairly constantly since 1306. This would make William only 8 or 9 yeaers old when the wars started. The Grant, as shown on the Castle Drum website, was for "years of faithful service". Were there two William Irvine's back then? Scots history isn't my area, but I needed the stub for disambiguation, so I took a shot at it. If you can find better info, please fix it. Thanks, Lou I 16:38, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Questioning the stub 

message: Hi All,
I have researched, expanded and referenced this article.
Firstly as far as I found the date of birth was off by about 30 years, as it seems William was born in 1260. So the deeds to the castle would have been handed to an older, experienced man. Also I found his date of death as well as his family (wife) story. Seems that he must have been a bit of a dude to have gotten such a grant and the hand of Robert de Bruce's granddaughter. If I am wrong about the dates please let me know.
I have also sectioned this article and added the family coat of arms and an image of Drum Castle.
I came across references to the Earls of Drum taking the name Alexander (which William took first) upon assuming the role of Earl. Also to note the second Earl was also a William. Anyway, if anybody can shed some light to where the name "Alexander" came from and why it was of import that would be very good for our little article here.
Anyways, kindest regards,
(MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 08:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanded

message: " a Scots soldier born in Dumfriesshire in Aberdeen, Scotland." Sorry, but this is obvious gibberish. Dumfriesshire is a region (nowadays a county) in south-western Scotland. Aberdeen at the time was a burgh - a few streets, a few hundred people with commercial rights ; now grown to be a small city -- and it's in north-eastern Scotland.--86.151.207.47 (talk) 10:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Also questioning the stub

message: "For his services to the Bruce, William Irvine was granted land north of Aberdeen in 1923."
Date must be a typo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.207.47 (talk) 10:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Misprint

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