Talk:List of classical music concerts with an unruly audience response

message: The main page for Ballet Mecanique doesn't contain any reference to a riot; in fact, it describes the premiere as being in 1924, not 1923.  One of these pages should be changed.
::Yes, after closer inspection, very few of these articles listed here contain any reference to the supposed riots at their premiere, which earned them inclusion on this page. I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't an article that would be better off deleted or severely altered.Trumpetrep (talk) 01:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Antheil

message: By this article's definition, the premiere of Four Organs cannot be considered riotous, as there was no violence. All Schonberg describes in his review are "yells for the music to stop...applause to hasten the end of the piece...lusty boos...screamed approval". He never once describes the incident as a riot, instead he simply calls it "some excitement". 
The standard for the usage of the word "riot" has always been woefully haphazard in artistic circles, but even by the loosest meaning of the word, as well as the stated definition of this article, it simply does not apply to Reich's premiere.Trumpetrep (talk) 01:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In response to the first removal of Four Organs, someone restored it to the list with two citations. The first is a dead link. The second is an interview where the audience is described as trying to stop the performance by booing. That is not a riot, even by the looser definition provided on this page. If Four Organs is to be included, the definition of a classical music riot should be changed to reflect the tame behavior of Reich's audience.Trumpetrep (talk) 22:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Reich

message: * 1913 - Sergei Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 2Steinberg, Michael. "Program Notes", San Francisco Symphony.
* 1926 – Béla Bartók – The Miraculous Mandarin (ballet)
* 1973 – Steve Reich – Four Organs 
Perhaps the definition of a classical music riot should be toned down to apply to premieres like The Miraculous Mandarin and Four Organs, where there was no violence. I have archived these entries here, because they are well-sourced, but these pieces clearly never caused riots as defined on this page.Trumpetrep (talk) 22:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: These have been restored to the list, now that the page has been renamed.Trumpetrep (talk) 16:01, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means, add them!Trumpetrep (talk) 00:57, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed "Riots"

message: It's been a year since I suggested deleting this undersourced and vague article. Its definition of a riot is unmet by most of the pieces that people have listed here. It seems better to assign a category to these pieces, which makes note of their rocky premieres. Since this article, over its 10-year history, has failed to prove the need for its own existence, it should go.Trumpetrep (talk) 21:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The consensus was to keep this article and fix it. The new name errs on the side of inclusion, as the word "riot" did not apply to most of the pieces on this list even with a very loose definition of the word. Rather than exclude all the pieces that people have wanted to see on this list, the article was renamed with a looser standard of "unruly audience response". The word "hostile", which was suggested by one citation, implies a motive that is not always accurate. Either word opens up the possibility that this article will become a phone book. There is no end to the amount of pieces that could justifiably end up here. Nevertheless, the decision was to keep the article and improve it, and this is better than misapplying a label which does not fit.Trumpetrep (talk) 16:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nomination for Deletion

message: * 1905 – Richard Strauss – Salome (particularly the 1907 Metropolitan Opera production in New York)
This type of reaction is really a separate phenomenon than the one this page deals with. Salome was cancelled by the Met after one performance due to the objections of JP Morgan's daughter. It received a rave review in the Times, and it was not marked by any kind of disturbance that concerns this page. Elsewhere, it was met with similar prohibitions against performing it, but again, that's something different from a hostile audience response to the work itself. Is there a page for banned or censored works? There's no shortage of those.Trumpetrep (talk) 03:32, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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Please transform this hipster gabble into encyclopaedic language. What on earth does it mean, and more importantly, will it mean after such ephemeral smart-alec patois fades away, as it always does?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.49.94 (talk) 23:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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