Talk:Green Party of Kosovo

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Green Party of Kosova → Green Party of Kosovo — Thus moving from the Albanian-language form "Kosova" (used by the party in its official web-site) to the more commonly used "Kosovo".
*This new title would follow Wikipedia's naming conventions, which state that "generally, article naming should prefer what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize", and the naming conventions on using English, which calls for using "the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works."
*As can be seen in the examples of usage below, "Green Party of Kosovo" is commonly used in English-language publications by international organizations, while the use of "Green Party of Kosova" is mostly restricted to Albanian ones.
*It would also be consistent with the article on Kosovo and those on other political parties of Kosovo.
Best regards, Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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====Move to Green Party of Kosovo====
# Move, as nominator. - Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

text: *The article on the region is Kosovo and even the UN spells it with one "s". Also, the party calls itself something in its own language, not in English. --Kimontalk 23:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments:
*Comment on Septentrionalis/PMAnderson's opinion:
First of all, it's my general perception that currently this region is usually referred to as "Kosovo" (one s). The old form "Kossovo" (double s) remains a valid alternative usage, and I personally like it very much :-) but it no longer constitutes common English usage.
In any case, a Google search for "Green Party of Kossovo" gives zero results (and asks: Did you mean: "Green Party of Kosovo" ?). 
Then, our Naming conflict#Dealing with self-identifying terms guideline mentions that "commonly used English translations of self-identifying terms are usually preferred per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) guideline."
I stress the mention of commonly used English translation, usually preferred per WP:UE, instead of references to "the English translation used by the institution itself". 
This party's Albanian name is "Partia e të Gjelbërve të Kosovës". The party itself uses the English translation "Green Party of Kosova", as do many institutions and organizations from Kosovo that use the Albanian forms as their own self-identifying English-language names (despite the fact that most English-language reliable sources still tend to use the Serbo-Croatian forms).
These includes how Kosovo's cities choose to name themselves in the English-language versions of their official web pages:
*Priština's official web-page uses "Prishtina " in English.
*Dragaš's official web-page uses "Dragash " in English.
*Đakovica's official web-page uses "Gjakova " in English.
*Gnjilane's official web-page uses "Gjilan " in English.
*Kačanik's official web-page uses "Kaçanik " in English.
*Lipljan's official web-page uses "Lipjan " in English.
*Orahovac's official web-page uses "Rahovec " in English.
*Peć's official web-page uses "Peja " in English.
*Podujevo's official web-page uses "Podujeva " in English.
*Srbica's official web-page uses "Skenderaj " in English.
*Štimlje's official web-page uses "Shtime " in English.
*Uroševac's official web-page uses "Ferizaj " in English.
*Vitina's official web-page uses "Viti " in English.
Or take a look a the list of "Municipalities of Kosovo" at Kosovo's Government Portal in English: only Malisevo uses a non-Albanian name.
Other political parties & organizations:
*The Democratic League of Kosovo's official web-page uses "Democratic League of Kosova " in English.
*The Alliance for a New Kosovo's official web-page uses "New Kosova Alliance " in English.
*The Alliance for the Future of Kosovo appears to use "Alliance for the Future of Kosova" in English (if necessary, I could ask other user to name adequate sources).
*The Football Federation of Kosovo's official web-page uses "Football Federation of Kosova " in English, and "Kosova Super League " (or Superleague) in English (Wikipedia's article is currently under Kosovar Superliga).
These are clear examples of how those institutions and organizations already identify themselves in English using the Albanian names, while the Serbo-Croatian forms remain common English usage. Of course, the latter are the ones the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, and thus are the ones currently used in the article titles of the English Wikipedia.
At the moment, this article on the Green Party is an exception in using the Albanian form "of Kosova" instead of the commonly used English translation "of Kosovo".
I do see this as a good reason not to call the party what it calls itself. Of course, you don't have to agree with me :-) Best regards, Ev 04:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move to Green Party of Kosovo 

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====Move to Green Party of Kosovo====
# Move, as nominator. - Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The article on the region is Kosovo and even the UN spells it with one "s". Also, the party calls itself something in its own language, not in English. --Kimontalk 23:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: # Move, as nominator. - Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to [[Green Party of Kosovo]]

message: *Sorry, Ev, if we're going to follow English usage, that's Kossovo. But I see no reason not to call the party what it calls itself. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The article on the region is Kosovo and even the UN spells it with one "s". Also, the party calls itself something in its own language, not in English. --Kimontalk 23:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep at [[Green Party of Kosova]]

message: I encourage you to simply be bold and move the page. You have clearly put a lot of thought into this, and your reasoning seems very sound. The one detractor did not seem very strident, and has not returned to defend his/her views. -Pete 02:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move per suggestion 

message: Google test:
*"Green Party of Kosovo" 20 results.
*"Green Party of Kosova" 11 results (asking: Did you mean: "Green Party of Kosovo" ?).
*"Green Party of Kossovo" 0 results (asking: Did you mean: "Green Party of Kosovo" ?).
Among the results for "Green Party of Kosovo":
* UNMIK press releases.
* OSCE Mission in Kosovo: List of Registered Political Parties, Green Party of Kosovo.
* Council of Europe, Parliamentary Assembly: Ad hoc Committee to observe the municipal elections in Kosovo (28 October 2000).
* USAID: 2005 NGO Sustainability Index: Kosovo (.pdf)
* United Nations Security Council: Report of the Secretary-General on the UN Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo, January 15, 2002.
* Balkan Investigative Reporting Network (BIRN), a Sarajevo-based NGO.
The full results for "Green Party of Kosova":
* The party's official web-site and its electoral program (.pdf).
* Albanews (with articles from KosovaLive News Agency, using always the Albanian forms Kosova, Prishtina, Gjilan, etc.)
* KosovaPress, which appears to use the Albanian form "Kosova" at least as much as the common English form "Kosovo".
* KosovaLive News Agency, again using always the Albanian forms Kosova, Prishtina, etc.
* The Regional Environmental Center for Central and Eastern Europe (REC), an Hungary-based NGO.
* ...also a UNHCR report in German on the November 17, 2001, elections in Kosovo (.pdf).
Best regards, Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples of usage 

message: :Add any additional comments:
*Comment on Septentrionalis/PMAnderson's opinion:
First of all, it's my general perception that currently this region is usually referred to as "Kosovo" (one s). The old form "Kossovo" (double s) remains a valid alternative usage, and I personally like it very much :-) but it no longer constitutes common English usage.
In any case, a Google search for "Green Party of Kossovo" gives zero results (and asks: Did you mean: "Green Party of Kosovo" ?). 
Then, our Naming conflict#Dealing with self-identifying terms guideline mentions that "commonly used English translations of self-identifying terms are usually preferred per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) guideline."
I stress the mention of commonly used English translation, usually preferred per WP:UE, instead of references to "the English translation used by the institution itself". 
This party's Albanian name is "Partia e të Gjelbërve të Kosovës". The party itself uses the English translation "Green Party of Kosova", as do many institutions and organizations from Kosovo that use the Albanian forms as their own self-identifying English-language names (despite the fact that most English-language reliable sources still tend to use the Serbo-Croatian forms).
These includes how Kosovo's cities choose to name themselves in the English-language versions of their official web pages:
*Priština's official web-page uses "Prishtina " in English.
*Dragaš's official web-page uses "Dragash " in English.
*Đakovica's official web-page uses "Gjakova " in English.
*Gnjilane's official web-page uses "Gjilan " in English.
*Kačanik's official web-page uses "Kaçanik " in English.
*Lipljan's official web-page uses "Lipjan " in English.
*Orahovac's official web-page uses "Rahovec " in English.
*Peć's official web-page uses "Peja " in English.
*Podujevo's official web-page uses "Podujeva " in English.
*Srbica's official web-page uses "Skenderaj " in English.
*Štimlje's official web-page uses "Shtime " in English.
*Uroševac's official web-page uses "Ferizaj " in English.
*Vitina's official web-page uses "Viti " in English.
Or take a look a the list of "Municipalities of Kosovo" at Kosovo's Government Portal in English: only Malisevo uses a non-Albanian name.
Other political parties & organizations:
*The Democratic League of Kosovo's official web-page uses "Democratic League of Kosova " in English.
*The Alliance for a New Kosovo's official web-page uses "New Kosova Alliance " in English.
*The Alliance for the Future of Kosovo appears to use "Alliance for the Future of Kosova" in English (if necessary, I could ask other user to name adequate sources).
*The Football Federation of Kosovo's official web-page uses "Football Federation of Kosova " in English, and "Kosova Super League " (or Superleague) in English (Wikipedia's article is currently under Kosovar Superliga).
These are clear examples of how those institutions and organizations already identify themselves in English using the Albanian names, while the Serbo-Croatian forms remain common English usage. Of course, the latter are the ones the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, and thus are the ones currently used in the article titles of the English Wikipedia.
At the moment, this article on the Green Party is an exception in using the Albanian form "of Kosova" instead of the commonly used English translation "of Kosovo".
I do see this as a good reason not to call the party what it calls itself. Of course, you don't have to agree with me :-) Best regards, Ev 04:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: Daut Maloku (da•ut) (Ma•lo•ku) was Born on 1967 in Prishtina,Kosovo he had has been the Green Party leader since September 1991.  Has been having TV experience for the past couple of years showing how we can make peace in life and how Kosovo is a independent country. DenatMaloku (talk) 01:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Daut Maloku