Talk:Need for Speed: Underground 2

message: i was just looking over the car list and saw that the ford gt was in the car list with "Carrer Only" by it. i have completed the game 3 times and never been able to have a ford gt nor have i seen one in the game. can someone confirm that it is really a car in the game. 
Chardrc 23:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: car list is gone. Underground 2 never had the Ford GT. The Ford GT first showed up in NFS Most Wanted. Rcgldr (talk) 16:00, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  car list 

message: Under responses and criticisms, the author(s) are quoted as "It also suffered from a debateable soundtrack."  This is not expanded upon and sounds too much like an opinion.  I'm removing the quote, but hopefully someone would be willing to come up with a more complete review of the soundtrack, which from what I have read has received generally positive reviews.
Phimu222 15:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Responses and Criticisms 

message: This game is available on mobile phone? I've never seen any phone that can play this game.
Rockvee 04:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This game can probably be played on moblile phone. A lot of real games are played on phones but they suck compared to the original game because they are only like 200 kb. It's basiclly a really small version of the original game.--Taida 22:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platform 

message: I played this game to death (on PC, XBOX, and PS2) and I'm a huge Atmosphere fan, and I never noticed any Atmosphere song as being on the soundtrack. Google results for the games official soundtrack don't show any results of Atmosphere being on the final cut, but some do mention it as being part of the demo (along with 2 other songs, which I'm not sure were in the final version either). If the song appears in the demo version of the game and not on the official release version of the game, shouldn't this be noted in some way? sgtrama 06:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack 

message: At 1. August 2006 EA closed the online servers for the PC version, maybe someone with better english skills than me can note this in the article if it is important enough, sorry, but I only have a german site as source but it is true.
http://www.giga.de/tv/gigagamespc/00133443_ea_dreht_den_saft_ab_etliche/
172.208.106.224 16:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the Xbox version? I have been playing online with the PS2 and I know that is still up. I find it hard to believe the Xbox would have it disabled. Can someone investigate? -- Reaper  X 21:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well i tried today, it connects to Xbox Live fine, but then just keeps trying to connect to the "EA Servers" IanC 22:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online Mode Closed 

message: Why is there a section in the article about "new race modes". I think we should include all the race modes in the game.--Taida 22:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race Modes 

message: Mountain Challenge
The Mountain Challenge is not a race that is incorperated into the game, and is purely optional. Before we start, it must be noted that only one player can do this at a time, and that you will have to time this yourself. You should know where Jackson Heights is, so go to the bit where there is an intersection with “HIGHTS” written on it (it’s before the Body and Graphics shops). This is the starting line. If you want to be exact then use the hydraulics to get a side on view. You can take either side but if you take the left hand side then you must ALWAYS take the left hand route (mansions drive ways don’t count). Vice versa with the right hand side. YOu have to go throught the observatory. Your time is disqualified if you don’t. You have to empty (purge) your tank of nitrous. However, any nitrous that you gain during the race, you may use. You have to do it in Free roam, with traffic and other racers. From there all you have to do is go up the mountain and come down the other side (if you live in Australia it is a bit like the Bathurst 1000). If you post it on a blog and your friends don’t believe your time, then I recommend putting all of the modifications that you have done to your car down as well. Even the decals. That’s just about it… oh yeah. All-wheel drive vehicles are better then rear wheel drive, as they tend to spin out a lot. Enjoy!'''
I'm removing this entire section for a number of reasons:
1. I've played this game through 2 times, and knowing it extensively I can remember there is absolutely no Mountain Challenge races or at least any that I encountered, and I don't think it should be included in race modes because isn't a race mode you can optionally select rather some purported Challenge you can enter in Free Roam mode.
2. It seems to have been written by some overeager gamer looking to give tips to players of this game. Wikipedia isn't GameSpot or IGN, we're not supposed to list secrets, tips or any other spoilers without good reason and there is definitely no need to include this section, because it's not a normal race mode and I have no knowledge or proof that this "Mountain Challenge" actually exists in the game.
3. It is very poorly written; it's kind of self evident this needs to be extensively rewritten to be reincorporated into this article, if it all true. It sounds like a walkthrough, lines "You should know where Jackson Heights is, so go to the bit where there is an intersection with “HIGHTS” written on it" and "That’s just about it… oh yeah. All-wheel drive vehicles are better then rear wheel drive, as they tend to spin out a lot. Enjoy!" sound like this section was taken out of some Game Guide or either written by a 12 year old.
Unless anyone proves this Mountain Challenge exists and it is real, and someone feels like it should be included in another section of the article (it definately does not fall under Race Modes) then fine you can rewrite it and stick it back in, but until then please leave such nonsense out.
Thankyou —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer112 (talk • contribs) 11:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The OP notes that this is not part of the game, but based on the description, it's similar to the circuit race Bellavista in Jackson Heights. I don't recall any fan forums that had this as a challenge. The fastest car in the game for any race mode is the Toyota Corolla (a starter car), take a look at any track in u2 world records, the first 50 or so top times are done with a Corolla. The MX5 is a somewhat distant second fastest, then a bunch of cars are close for third fastest. Rcgldr (talk) 16:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mountain Challenge Section is unencylcopedic.... 

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message: I needConstructive criticisms  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.0.155 (talk) 13:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constructive criticisms  

message: I've removed (commented out) the statement about Megalow Parts being a missing feature. Just because many people can't seem to find it (as it is mislabeled "Performance Shop" and "Mega Low Shop" in many places), it does exists. This map proves it, I think. --NetRolller 3D 17:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Megalow Parts 

message: I have the European version.
I don't have Mazda Miata nor Peugeot 206, but 106 & a Vauxhall car.
As I didn't play through the whole EU version (just the US, earlier), I can't post a car list but there are some on the net.
Please update the car list by adding either a comment (EU only, US only) or two columns with like checkboxes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.99.3.51 (talk) 06:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The car list is gone. There is a patch to switch between the US and EU versions of the game, which switches between the two pairs of cars and also switches between the US or EU server. Many players had accounts on both US and EU servers. The patch still switches between the two pairs of cars, but the online servers were shut down long ago, leaving just the LAN mode and virtual LAN as a way to run multiplayer races (for the PC version). Rcgldr (talk) 15:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

text: Update - the Miata MX5 is in both US and EU version. US version has Acura NSX, Honda Civic, EU instead has Peugot 106 and Vauxhall Corsa. Rcgldr (talk) 10:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  car list - EU vs. US 

message: "If the player beats the game 100%, he gets Caleb's car."
I've beaten the US 1.2 version of NFS: Underground 2 with the maximum reputation points (300) achieved in every career-mode race, all wins/no losses in career mode (including all the SUV races and unmarked secret races), all hidden bank and info markers acquired, all shop locations identified on the map, all outrun races won (no losses), all rewards unlocked, and finished the game with a car that had a visual rating of ten stars. After beating the game, I then went back and completed the handful of races (all wins/no losses, each with the maximum reputation points achieved) that weren't available in career mode to complete the game at 100%. Having achieved 100% in every category, I didn't have access to Caleb's GTO in quick race mode (either under the "stock" or "career" category of cars) or in career mode.
I have seen this bit about getting Caleb's GTO upon achieving 100% completion often quoted on the web, but I have yet to hear of direct first-hand knowledge. I definitely completed 100% of the game (verified by checking my career statistics as well as by checking the World Map feature which lists all the races in each stage and their completion status that is available after beating the game). For the record, I did play the game at "easy" difficulty level with the idea in mind that once I was familiar with the controls I would go back and play it at "hard" difficulty, but the game is intolerably drawn-out to be worth going back and playing it at "medium" or "hard" difficulty. So the question is, does the game have to be played to 100% at "medium" or "hard" difficulty to get Caleb's GTO (instead of "easy" difficulty), or is Caleb's GTO not available in the US version after completing the game to 100%, or is unlocking Caleb's GTO after achieving 100% game completion status an unsubstantiated rumour? G.Ceara (talk) 16:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can confirm that at least for the PC version, there is no reward like winning Caleb's car for completing career mode 100%. All the reputation points do is provide more sponsor options when a new level / area is unlocked during career mode. As far as the cars go, the Corolla is fastest for road race events in a class by itself, with the Miata MX5 being a distant second fastest, and then a group of cars essentially tied for 3rd fastest car. 240SX is fastest for drag mode. GTI provides the highest drift scores. Rcgldr (talk) 15:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Follow up - I forgot to mention that some players used customization features in the game to nearly duplicate Caleb's car, which would be pointless if that car would be added or unlocked for 100% career completion. Rcgldr (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: Some vandal decided to put "Street Reapers" as Caleb's gang's name when the gang is really called "The Wraiths", Rachel Teller specifically uses the name The Wraiths in reference to Caleb's crew when she meets the hero for an update via cutscene after a URL race in stage 4.  Play the game next time you want to provide false information. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 01:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Caleb's Gang

message: Who knows what is Need for Speed: Underground 2 SHA_DO for PS2? (see Infobox)
Is this an official version? Hippo99 (talk) 21:56, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a revised version for the Japanese PS2. This article doesn't presently cover Asian releases of the game.Theclaw1 (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  NFS Underground 2 SHA_DO (PS2) 

message: At least on the PC version, if a player is driving a SUV, then only SUV races will appear on the map (some will be hidden races). If a player is driving an SUV in free roam, then the outrun vehicles will also be SUV. After unlocking an area, the in game menu shows prior races that can be run, including SUV races, and in this case either a car or an SUV can be used to enter any of the prior races, but the AI opponents will be driving cars if the player is driving a car, or the AI will be driving SUVs if the player is driving an SUV. For multiplayer races, I don't recall any restriction on what a player is driving. Rcgldr (talk) 15:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cars - players driving SUVs only face SUV AI opponents. 

message: There was a separate garage of "ranked cars" for online play when the servers were running. Currently these cars can only be seen in LAN mode if a player hosts or joins a LAN server, I don't think they can be added or modified (except by editing a savegame). There was one ranked car for each of the 6 game modes, shown in the garage in this order: circuit, sprint, drag, drift, url, street x. By accumulating points in one of the six game mode online, a player would achieve "elite" status in that mode and it would show up as a brightened icon in the players displayed list of 6 icons as seen in this image where "elite" status was reached in all 6 online game modes: all elite jpg Rcgldr (talk) 10:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online mode - separate garage for "ranked cars" 

message: In the plot section description of the prologue, "black Hummer H2 waits in a dark underpass for the player", that dark underpass is actually Lower Eastside from Underground 2's map. This may not seem important, but there has been a history of players finding in game locations for the intros and cut-scenes in Need For Speed games, so the main purpose of the note was to avoid players futilely searching for that location in Underground 1's map, which requires running individual events, since there is no free roam in Underground 1. I added a parenthesized note about the location being Lower Eastside from Underground 2's map, but someone else removed it. I'm waiting for feedback from other's here if that note should be added back into the plot's prologue description. Rcgldr (talk) 02:26, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think something like that would be better suited to the NFS wiki rather than this one. Carguy1701 (talk) 20:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot - location of prologue scene is from Underground 2's map instead of Underground 1's map. 

message: Why is that? Two NA release dates HelpMeChoose55 (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 NA release dates for DS version?