Talk:Free Bird

message: The article says that they dedicated it to Duane Allman.  when they played in Macon, GA in 1976 (I think it was 76), they dedicated it to Duane Allman, Berry Oakley, and Otis Redding. I don't have a reference for that, but I was there and a friend has it on tape. Bubba73 (talk), 05:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dedicated to Duane Allman

message: The definition of "Free Bird" as a "power ballad" in the introduction is inconsistent with the main text, where the song is described as "half ballad, half up-tempo guitar boogie." Clearly, something that it half/half something cannot be defined only by the one half. Why not the more neutral "song"? Also, the "power ballad" entry says that "Free Bird" only "vaguely fit[s] the power ballad aesthetic."
:I agree. Free Bird is not a power ballad and never will. I saw that information when it was there, I think that they took it out now, though. ~~Whiffle Ball Tony~~ 18:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Power ballad?

message: I've got the book written about the band, I can't remember the name of it, but basically the first and most definitive textual Skynyrd biography. It was said that Allen Collins' girlfriend at the time asked him the question, "If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?" 
Should this be added? 
& song was not written in 1973, it was recorded in 1973. It was played at high school proms before that. Before Billy Powell even joined the band, he was first noticed when setting up for a gig and played a piano intro to Free Bird, and he was in the band before 1973, so the song was at least a couple years old before it was recorded. Zchris87v 07:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of first line

message: Would it be fair to say that yelling "Free Bird!" during concerts is an American popular culture cliche? Down here in Australia, the cliche is to yell out "play some Chisel!" If this is so, please rectify the article to mention the USA. Stuart mcmillen 05:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess that would make sense, on account of I've never heard of Cold Chisel, so there might be some Australians who have never heard Free Bird. I mean, it is called an American classic, so do what you must. ~~Whiffle Ball Tony~~ 23:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture cliche

message: Is it just me, or does a lot of this bear more than a passing resemblance to this Blender article? Shmuel 21:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, no question that's the source of the history section. --*Spark* 21:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism? 

message: The link for the live performance of Free Bird has been tampered with, and now the link leads to a Spanish version of the opening for Sailor Moon. Anyone care to fix this? I'm not so good with links and such, but I saw this and I thought I should mention it. Kokuha Seishin 01:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem With a Link 

message: I think someone should put up a section that talks about the 5-minute long guitar duel. I would put it up, but I'm too lazy. 71.200.98.184 18:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  guitar duel 

message: Where it is talking about "AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE!" in guitar hero II, THIS IS TRUE. I'm just not sure what im supposed to do. --72.86.73.84 15:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no question of lies here. The source should be cited. In this case it should probably be the game. I am unsure how to cite games but there may be someone who has the correct format somewhere. It's just a matter of llokning for it. Candy 12:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What type of citation do you need? 

message: The title of the article has a space while many spellings in the article itself lack a space.  If my memory serves me well, I've seen it spelt both ways on some Skynyrd albums, although the spelling with a space seems overwhelmingly prevalent.  Basically, a decision needs to be made about how to spell it in the article and then make that choice be the only one used.  Any thoughts?OSU871316 04:26, 28 May 2007 (UT)
It should be included in the article; I asked everyone at my school how it's spelled; a lot of people say it should be spelled "Freebird" and others "Free Bird". It's the former that should be really spelled. Whatever way Lynyrd Skynyrd spelled it first, that should be the correct spelling. 18:53, 08 June 2007 (JG)
:No way.  Asking people "at your school" is absolutely no way to do this.  I bet 3/4 would put an apostrophe in the word "its" (making it "it's") for the possessive, e.g. "The name of the song is on it's album cover.", which would be catastrophically incorrect, just as any silly claim that the song's title can be spelled "Freebird" is.  The song is entitled "Free Bird".  Any other spelling is incorrect, and propagating such an embarrassing mistake is irresponsible.  All Lynyrd Skynyrd albums and singles spell the title "Free Bird". Adding "sometimes spelled..." is just dumb.  Should we put the common misspellings of words and phrases next to every entry in Wikipedia?  "Duct tape (sometimes spelled 'duck tape')"?  "Franklin Roosevelt (sometimes spelled `Rosevelt')"? 
:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnymo (talk • contribs) 23:12, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously, if the cover of the single (which is what the current graphic is) spells it as "Freebird" that should be canonical, regardless of what other versions showed up later. Since this article appears in the chronological series of Lynyrd Skynrd singles, we should evaluate the title spelling in the similar way. i.e. "Freebird (later spelled "Freebird")..." since it's really the record label that is responsible for title canonicity. Cowbert (talk) 00:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite. I've appended a comment to the first sentence drawing attention to the absurdity of calling it "Free Bird". Ericoides (talk) 16:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free Bird vs. Freebird 

message: I have noticed that, in the entry, it states that the crowd sways their lighters during the Free Bird performance in Guitar Hero II. However, this is only when the player's rock meter is in the green; the lighter swaying is noticable in every other encore during the beginning, as the player starts with the rock meter in the green. Metroidhunter777 01:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: then again does something that trivial need mentioning in the article? 67.162.10.70 15:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lighter Swaying During Performance in Guitar Hero II? 

message: 68.101.194.158 07:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  plagiariasms (again?) 

message: The harmonic structure of this song follows the ubiquitous Canon in D. 141.157.110.8 15:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pachelbel's Canon 

message: The claim referring to David Stahl and the Charleston Symphony Orchestra is utterly false and meritless.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.8.168 (talk) 22:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Stahl 

message: Just wondering, shouldn't there be even one sentence in this article stating that this song was featured in Guitar Hero II? If you need a source for that, a reliable source that mentions what songs are featured in GH2 should suffice. I don't see why it's use in a popular video game shouldn't be mentioned in the article.--Almax999 06:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it is called cruft..trivia (and virtual trivia at that) that doesn't lend anything to an article..it is a tangent that takes the reader off focus. The video game factoid is only relevant to a very small minority of readers and its importance falls below this article. You can mention that stuff in the articles on Guitar Hero but we don't elevate the importance of Guitar Hero by plastering factoids in any song article that they happen to use. See WP:TRIVIA. Cheers,⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 14:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure how Guitar Hero has anything to do with the song, or its place in history. It seems like this is more of a trivia component than actual encyclopedic information. 68.5.247.159 (talk) 05:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree as well. Placement of "Free Bird" in a notable video game like Guitar Hero should be enough to warrant a mention in the article. Since when is this not encyclopedic enough? --FlyingPenguins (talk) 08:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree - for many people (and I'm one of them), Guitar Hero II was the first time we heard Freebird. The game made the song famous to a whole new demographic and therefore is notable enough to be mentioned in this article. Cpc464 (talk) 11:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What About Guitar Hero II? 

message: I'm removing some of the lesser related covers from the Cover versions section. If anyone objects to this, please feel free to notify me and let me know why there is objection to this.--DisturbedNerd999 (Delete!) 18:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover versions 

message: There is a long section called "Song Structure" that has been commented out. I don't see a reason in the comments as to why it was commented out. I'm not sure if this was done on purpose, or if it was the result of vandalism. TakingUpSpace (talk) 04:38, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song Structure section 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Bird#.22Play_Free_Bird.22 might be expanded with a reference to Bill Hicks' I'm Sorry Folks bootleg: it's an old recording of a live show (Chicago 1989, it's here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4624904446100493364#). The song is mentioned and the cheering for FreeBird turns into an impromptu leitmotiv.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burt777 (talk • contribs) 13:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Hicks - I'm Sorry Folks 

message: I read the article and saw that the length of the song is 9 minutes 6 seconds long in the album while in the single version it's 4 minutes 41 seconds long. However, I couldn't find anything on iTunes or on YouTube of this Lynyrd Skynyrd's Free Bird that was only a bit over four minutes long. If, however, the single is really about half the length of the actual song, someone needs to find a source for this. In addition, listening to the song itself, 4:41 is about the point where the song suddenly goes faster from a slow vocal rock ballad to a very fast instrumental rock music. November Hotel Romeo Hotel Sierra Two Zero One Zero ✈ 21:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  length of Free Bird single 

message: Since I'm not sure about editing the main article page (specially about the correct way of citing the source), I'm posting here this link with some noteworthy info about the song, specially the fact that Ronnie Van Zant asked the rest of the band to add a long instrumental section for him to take a break. Someone knowledgeable about article editing, please add this info. Alvabass (talk) 03:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just wrote the info in as a rough opening paragraph in "Origins."  BTW, in case you find it useful, I found this citation wiki-code generator at Help:Citation tools, and it works really well.  ☺ —Xyzzy☥the☥Avatar 11:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Some important (in my opinion) additional info about the song

message: I checked the discography at the band's website out of curiosity, and the official spelling as shown on their initial album "Pronounced..." is "Freebird" without a space, matching both the single-version cover image we're using and the decision that appears here on the talk page a few years ago.  I was going to just change it, but decided to bring it up here, as I realized the page title needs to be corrected as well -- if there's no solid reason for using the inaccurate spelling, I'd vote firmly in favor of fixing the error.  —Xyzzy☥the☥Avatar 09:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Official website shows it as "Freebird"

message: When this comes back up again, put me down in support of a move to the song's actual name.  is to keep Bill Clinton where people are looking for him; meanwhile, when the single and the official website of the actual originating artists are spelling this "Freebird"... the name of the song is "Freebird" and "Free Bird" is just an understandable misspelling, not a replacement "common name". In any case, the phrasing of the lead should not be pretending that "Freebird" is the misspelling.
Pace Ajax, the move should be to "Freebird" tout suite. This is the  and already serves as a hard redirect here; there's no competing sense deserving a dabby title.
Pace editors, it's obviously an issue. Kindly be careful not to change the usage of your sources. Someone "corrected" the WSJ article from "Freebird" to "Free Bird". Don't do that. — LlywelynII 11:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: And this bɛɛɛɛɛrd you cannaught chayeeaaayngee

message: On the album "Skynyrd's Innyrds", is the "outtake version" of Free Bird actually the same take as the original album version, just with no fade-out at the end? I see an unsourced statement that it is the same take. However, the album itself says "outtake version" right in the track name.
Can anyone find an actual source? I certainly can't hear any difference, but the album says "outtake".Fluoborate (talk) 08:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the outtake version a different take? 

message: How Steve Gaines played guitar there, when this song was recorded before he joined the band. He was absent on album with this song. 185.28.251.102 (talk) 20:52, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steve Gaines 

message: Can there be lyrics? The article is all about the techs & specs of the song without a description of its import or lyrics. Thanks Manytexts (talk) 11:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding verbatim lyrics is a copyright violation, so the answer to that is no. If by "description of its import or lyrics" you mean your personal interpretation, no because of WP:NPOV and WP:RS. Sundayclose (talk) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So... it's not possible to give the equivalent of a plot summary? Manytexts (talk) 15:47, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics