Talk:Upper Silesia

message: Except just a few of Polish cities that have a commonly accepted English name like Warsaw, Cracow/Krakow and Poznan) all other cities should be named after their native or official Polish name. Usage of German names of Polish cities in English vikipedia is unaaceptable. CC, 21:07, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is perfectly acceptable for German cities like Stettin, Posen and Breslau.  Norum 00:43, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

text: BUT WHY IN THE.... do you introduce Polish names in the Lower Silesian Province (Prussia) article, then? Nico 18:17, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

text: OPPELN (Polish, Oppolie) , a town of Germany, in the Prussian province of Silesia, lies on the right bank of the Oder, 51 m. S.E. of Breslau, on the railway to Kattowitz, and at the junction of lines to Beuthen, Neisse and Tarnowitz. Pop. (1905) 3o,769~ It is the seat of the provincial administration of Upper Silesia,
john 07:20, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish names of Polish cities debate 

message: WARNING: Nico is a well known and annoying silling (to avoid the word vandal) introducing German names to all Polish cities and provinces occupied by Germany in the past - CC 04:49, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning : Nico 

message: CC, this does no good.  And why on earth is it offensive to give the German name for the historic capital of Upper Silesia?  When Upper Silesia was a province, its capital was called Oppeln, not Opole, no?  In any event, your behavior of late has been seriously unacceptable. john 05:30, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: BUT WHY IN THE.... do you introduce Polish names in the Lower Silesian Province (Prussia) article, then? Nico 18:17, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

text: OPPELN (Polish, Oppolie) , a town of Germany, in the Prussian province of Silesia, lies on the right bank of the Oder, 51 m. S.E. of Breslau, on the railway to Kattowitz, and at the junction of lines to Beuthen, Neisse and Tarnowitz. Pop. (1905) 3o,769~ It is the seat of the provincial administration of Upper Silesia,
john 07:20, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish, German or Polish-German name of Opole 

message: The official city name is Opole and this ONLY should be used in English wikipedia. -- CC, 12:27, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official name is Opole 

message: Saw this while playing with Random page and I'm sure it (which isn't much) should be merged and redirected, I amn't sure of the details so can some one here do this? Notjim 16:37, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Upper Silesia (Prussian Province)]]

message: There are some cities listed that are part of the Upper Silesian voivodship but arent in reality part of Upper Silesia (the administrative borders of viovedship arent the same as geographical and historical borders of the province), Częstochowa was never part of Silesia. I think it should be changed (cities that are outside Silesia removed form the list), if there are no objections i can do it. --Serus 00:43, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you are right, I edited page and deleted all cities, which, I was certain, are not historically part of Upper Silesia and even not in Silesia Voivodship. I add a note "not historical Upper Silesia" to cities which are in Voivodship but not in historical Upper Silesia (like Sosnowiec, Dąbrowa Górnicza itd. which are the cities of Little Poland region - :pl:Zagłębie Dąbrowskie - which is even "hated" by Upper Silesians, Hanysi call them Altrajch ;P). Moreover I add a note about cities in Cieszyn Silesia, and lower that Cieszyn Silesians are especially glad to be a part of Upper Silesia, and information about Ostrawa and Bielsko-Biała, that they lay only partly in historical part of Silesia, for instance Biała always belonged to Little Poland, as well as Żywiec, Andrychów, Oświęcim etc. D T G 09:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Częstochowa is not a silesian city 

message: Sorry upper silesia was part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (First Empire), from 1143 till 1807. (From 1807 till 1815 only part of Prussia( during the napoleonic Wars). Part of the German Federation from 1815 till 1866. From 1866 till 1871 part of the North German Federation (as part of Prussia). From 1871 till 1945 it was part of the German Empire(Second Empire till 1919, First German Republic till 1933, Third Empire till 1945 (also known as third Reich). Large parts of the population were german speaking (during the census held by the league of nations in 1919 only in the eastern part of the uppersilesia province, the western part was nearly 100 % germanspeaking)) 60 % of the population voted to stay part of Germany). In 1945 during the Westexpansion of Poland the absolute mayority of the population was forcibly expulsed to germany). Only since that time there is a large polnish mayority polpulation in that area. Not to mention the German names of the Citys and Towns of these historical region is faking up of hististory . A cultural cleansing of history after the ethnical cleansing of the region. Don´t let some polnish ultra nationalists in wikipedia came trough with it. Wikipedia should not be the playground for the enemys of humanity and democracy.
You have some points; an interest; and much to contribute! Please sign your posts so we can collaborate. Thanks for your contributions!--Agrofe 02:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Part of Germany from 1143 till 1945)

message: Upper or Lower Silesian? The Duchy of Nysa is usually referred to as Lower Silesian, as the lands of Otmuchów and Nysa were not part of the territories incorporated by Duke Mieszko IV Tanglefoot of Opole and Racibórz upon the death of Jarosław Opolski in 1201. 92.225.108.142 (talk) 09:31, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently, neither. It's part of Opolskie. Historically, Upper Silesia. While it started out under the control of Wrocław, it eventually came under the control of Opole. As part of Prussia, the German Empire, and after WWI, it was in Upper Silesia. I don't know whether present-day redidents consider themselves Silesian, though. I doubt it, as the present-day population came from what is now the Ukraine. Silesian identity outside of Ślaskie and the eastern parts of Opolskie is very weak. Lower Silesians do not consider themselves Silesians. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 09:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Upper Silesia has never stretched this far west.  I believe that people of Nysa consider themselves to be Lower Silesians.  Norum 11:21, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Nysa

message: I just came to this entry to see where Upper Silesia in relation to Germany, Poland and Austria. Basically, a simple map of Europe with Upper Silesia highlighted. But there is nothing here to give anyone unfamiliar with the area any idea of where Upper Silesia is located. Can a better map be posted? 69.125.134.86 (talk) 12:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: A better map?