Talk:Astaroth (Soulcalibur)

message: Okay, this is pretty much just like the old character analysis section from before. I'm removing these for the same reason people from before deleted the character analysis section. If you want to find out why, check out Taki's and Kilik's talk pages. If people want a strategy guide, they should go to fansites. Mythmonster2 (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gameplay

message: Alright here's the deal. I don't mean to sound like an arrogant asshole or anything, but any player that says Astaroth has "easy to master gameplay" or is "used as a crutch by less skilled players" doesn't know shit about Soul Calibur or fighting games in general and probably hasn't been playing them for very long.
Most characters that are the slow, powerful type like Astaroth are considered low tier by competitive players. Astaroth is a rare exception because he's considered a pretty effective character, but the faster, speedier characters are still thought of as easier to use by most players. So the opposite of what the article says is actually true, Astaroth is thought of as a skill character by most Soul Calibur players.
This source you mentioned is Jive magazine and they are in a very small minority, so small I've never heard of it lol. Anyway that's how they feel so whatever, that's not the issue here. My problem is that the opening section of this article makes it sound like it's a widely agreed fact by players, and it isn't (because it's not true).
If you still disagree with me about this, there's a website filled with competitive Soul Calibur players called 8 Way Run, and another one with competitive fighting game players in general called Shoryuken, and I'm pretty sure they'll back me up on how crazy it is to say that Astaroth is a crutch for less skilled players. And these are players that know their shit and have been playing these games for years, not some guy writing for Jive magazine who has played maybe five matches in his life.
Anyways, write me back and tell me what you think. - Chris 
98.82.102.242 (talk) 04:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's reception. It's not our place for us to decide "oh, they're clearly wrong!" based on original research. They're being cited for an opinion, not for stating a fact outright, and 8wayrun and Shoryuken aren't reliable sources for the purposes of this article.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kung Fu Man 

message: He was in the category undead but I don't think so. Golems are not zombies or anything. --Niemti (talk) 08:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he actually undead? 

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