Talk:Hassan Nasrallah

message: Contracting "Hezbollah is a Lebanese Islamist Shiite organization and political party" (1) to "Lebanese political party Hezbollah" cuts it too short. "Islamist Shiite" is a qualifier for party too, arguably a meaningful one. "organization" and "political" is redundant - all parties are political organizations, besides "Islamist" covers that. Shiite Islamists are a Islamist variant, so:
:Lebanese Islamist party Hezbollah
is IMO correct. --tickle me 01:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  intro 

message: Hey-- even in the face of all the vandalism and POV-flinging this article needs some mention of the current war, which will definitely make or break Nasrallah as a leader. Anyone care to propose a sentence here? JDG 05:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that this is an article on Nasrallah, the person, not about the war, for which an article already exists. Although Nasrallah makes morale boosting appearances on Al Manar, I don't think there is much public information about his role in the current war. I therefore do not see what can be said about the topic in a Hassan Nasrallah article other than "He led Hezbollah during the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict" -- not a very useful statement. --Asbl 05:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like somebody has obliged with your request, but as I wrote above, the sentence is essentially void of much useful information. --Asbl 06:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention current war?? 

message: Too much taken verbatim from aljazeera.com, too many  tags. --tickle me 17:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   Personal life, cleanup-date, July 30, 2006 

message: Are the only views Nasrallah have related to hating Israel?  This section consists of a bunch of out of context quotations and some analysis, much of it from Neocon types.  It strikes me as pretty blatantly POV.  Obviously a discussion of Nasrallah's views should include a discussion of his views on Israel, but the current section is clearly designed to advance a partisan POV rather than to actually inform.  john k 19:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Views section 

message: moved all the headers up to the top, and comments below. I shouldn't have lost any comments. Although a lot them seemed to be argumentative and not really wikipedia edit type comments. Best Wishes. Will314159 22:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean Up 

message: It seems that some quotes have been attributed to Nasrallah, quotes which are not by him at all. See Charles Glass in  London Review of Books. Note the quote from the lebanese Daily Star (by Badih Chayban) in October 2002/10/23 ('If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide') ..it has been used extensively (especially by neo-cons)..but there is no proof that this is a "real" quote at all (It has also been denied by Hizbolla spokesmen). The CAMERA article: "Hassan Nasrallah: In His Own Words" (where it is quoted) is therefore at least partly based on what I would call false propaganda; (it is not his own word at all): I will therefore remove it.
(This whole thing remindes me very much of the Ouze Merham "quotes" of Ariel Sharon ...perhaps there also should be an article about false quotes attributed to Nasrallah?  ..with listing them where they first appear, and where they were refuted?) Regards, Huldra 02:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links: CAMERA article 

message: I listened to a streaming video lecture by Professor juan Cole who explained the above topic. Nasralah subscribes to Khomeinis views and is his disciple. Amal suscribes to Fadallah who is close to Ayatollah  Sistani of Irak. In the Khomeini view the clerics have the last word. Sistani and Fadallah's view is minimum interference. Even though Nasrallah is prominent politicaly in Lebanon, theologically he is much junior to Ayotollah Fadallah. On Ashura (Arabic for 10 which follows 10 days after first of year 1 Muharram similar to Yom Kippur about 10 days after Rosh Shannah) some Shiites self flagellate in memory of the martrydom of the 3rd Imam Husain at Karbala. The Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa against the practice. If I am right, then Amal would do the bloody ritual on Ashura while Hezbollah members would not. I have to get a source for this before i incorporate this in article. If any lebanese Shia are reading this- would appreciate any insight. Best Wishes Will314159 06:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jurisprudence of the Guardians and Khomeini View of Ashura Ritual 

message: He actually used the words "everybody knows it"? I'm sorry, but that is the single most hilarious thing that I have ever heard. VolatileChemical 07:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syria Iran Hezbollah support 

message: How do you know that the "If all the Jews..." quote is not a fabrication, since its editors of the newspaper have questioned the reliability of the translations, and honesty of the reporter? Ahmad Husseini 02:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We do not know this to be the case, since our only source is a random third party claiming this in a letter to an editor of another journal.Proabivouac 18:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, your second source doesn't mention the quote. This isn't the place to be comparing Hezbollah to the Nazis (your source, is a blatant attack, otherwise it would have fit in), and I don't find that taking quotes from neo-con(respectively) websites is considered accurate.Ahmad Husseini 02:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's running this joint? 

message: This section of the article makes no mention of the fact that Israel initiated its bombing campaign in response to a Hezbollah attack on its army patrol. An attack of which Nasrallah was aware, because he later made the statement along the lines of (if I recall correctly) "I would not have allowed the attack to go ahead if I had known that these would be the consequences."
::Will you provide a reliable resource for that please? If you can then it may be added.--SJP 00:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV: 2006 Israel-Lebanon Conflict 

message: I've added one song by Alaa Zalzali to the list, however there is no article about that artist or song. I may get to work on that. Andurz 02:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nasrallah in songs 

message: How reliable are those sources? They seem to be heavily biased blogs. And i'm not sure about the translation offered there. Just suggesting better sources. Andurz (talk) 23:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taif Section 

message: Reference #2, #9, and #11 ("Profile: Sayid Hasan Nasrallah")are redundant as they all point to, the same link, which no longer works and cannot be found via a search on that site.  At the moment it also lists it as an Al Jazeera article, which is incorrect as aljazeera.com is a British magazine, not the same as the well-known media outlet of the same name.  I'll fix that in a moment.
It seems though that this may have been the same profile that is also cited as reference #10, from the Council on Foreign Relations.  If so, it can simply be subbed in for the three mentioned earlier, but it should be checked first that that CFR link covers or mentions what is being referenced by aljazeera.com before swapping. 
Also, question regarding the PDF link in reference #7; can anyone else open this?  It comes up as "unsupported/damaged" by Adobe. Tarc (talk) 15:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References need cleaning up. 

message: I've noticed that many of the citations on the section regarding Nasrallah's views on international events are from CAMERA and other pro-Israel organizations.  Why is it that it is frowned upon to cite Al-Manar or similar sources on articles, but it's okay to quote blatantly Zionist and pro-Israel organizations and sources in articles, especially articles condemning someone for being anti-semetic?  I'd like these citations removed and, where they were indeed valid, replaced with references that are not biased. Mnmazur (talk)
:I don't see the problem. CAMERA was cited four times in the article, and three of those four times it was explicitly stated that it was from CAMERA (I changed the fourth instance to reflect this as well). As long as the source is explicitly mentioned for the claims, Al-Manar can likely be used too. ← George [talk] 04:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation of Israeli sources 

message: The second paragraph of this section does not talk about Hizballah's stance on the September 11 attack itself but rather talks about the conflict with the US in general. In the mentioned quote, Nasrallah did not express his point of view of this attack but rather mentioned it as a historical inciden . Hence I suggest that it must be removed from this section.--Atmleb (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the September 11, 2001 attacks and the United States 

message: The links for CAMERA point to camera(disambiguation). I have changed the links that I can find to point directly to the wikipedia page of that specific organisation that is titled "Committee_for_Accuracy_in_Middle_East_Reporting_in_America". 
Any future links should be done in the same way Example: CAMERA.
--Atmleb (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  CAMERA links 

message: I don't speak Arabic/Farsi/Persian, whatever, but today's revert war without edit summaries, doesn't give me much confidence. Accordingly, I have protected this article until and unless the parties provide acceptable translations for their edits. This is the English language Wikipedia, and if there is going to be unresolved conflict about the natural language version of this person's name, it will just be deleted as unnecessary and the article will have to endure continued protection. Rodhullandemu 00:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: the national pact and not compact (!) with Free Patriotic Movement of Michel Aoun....should read the section title!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.108.172.7 (talk) 11:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  national pact and not national compact 

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thread_title: File:Sayyed Hassan.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: insert this image as the main portrait       http://hadialakhras.deviantart.com/art/Sayed-Hasan-Nasrallah-362573250     because it more accurate and it looks more formal. Thank you
Ahalawi (talk) 12:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Images found on the web are usually copyrighted, and cannot be used on wikipedia, which uses free content where possible (see WP:NONFREE. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 15:25, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2014 

message: In Russian his name "Насралла" sounds very unpleasant. About as "give a shit" in feminine gender. :)) Алессия (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just For Laughs 

message: Addition to sub-topic "views attributed to Nasrallah"
- Condemns Charlie Hebdo attack
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/09/us-france-shooting-hezbollah-idUSKBN0KI1OM20150109
- But also condemns Mohammed cartoon by Charlie Hebdo in their "survival" issue after the attack
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/09/us-france-shooting-hezbollah-idUSKBN0KI1OM20150109
213.35.153.122 (talk) 20:43, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 19:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2015 

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thread_title:  Firefox crash problem 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I want to add these informations to the article but it needs a consensus.Anyway i place it here for comments:
I suggest you put draft version here on talk for review by other editors, once reviewed and okayed it can be placed in article at appropriate place.-m,sharaf (talk) 09:04, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Add some information

message: Is Hassan Nasrallah currently either a Lebanese expatriot or in Iran. Because both would need to be true for that category to be used. nableezy - 00:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh. Reliable sources back up the fact that he moved to Qom for studies and remained there for some time. I added just two of these sources. No one talked about him being there right now; we're talking about 1989.Furthermore, "Expatriate in X" categories on Wikipedia are literally everywhere used for those who have spent time in another country, for, e.g., studies, work, and/or soccer. Whether in the past, or in the present. So, I also don't understand where you got the notion from that someone needs to be an expat "currently", in order to be labeled with such category. In fact, this article also needs the category :Category:Lebanese expatriates in Iraq, for he studied there as well for some time. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 02:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: He isnt in Iran, he is in Lebanon. Whats there to huh about? An expatriate, definitionally, is somebody who lives outside of their home country. Lives, present tense. nableezy - 04:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Who told that he's in Iran right now? These categories may be added for anyone that lived at one time in a different nation, but did not hold its citizenship. It seems as if you are making this "rule" up by yourself, namely that someone "needs" to be living in the country in question, right now, in order for the category to be added. And that seemingly just because you define the word "expatriates" as being only able to refer to the present tense, which is wrong, especially in the way such categories are used on Wikipedia. Oh, no, wait, I guess Alexander Onassis is actually currently in Monaco, while George Best is actually currently living in Hong Kong, South Africa, and Australia -- even though both individuals died numerous years ago. With all due respect, but unless you're able to cite a WP that backs up your claim (that such categories can only be added for people who are in the countries in question in the present time) or some sort of earlier established consensus, your arguments don't have any ground to stand on. Nasrallah was an expat in Iran in the late 80s, and he was an expat in Iraq prior to that, and this is simply verifiable by the reliable sources. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 05:56, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not defining the word, the dictionary does that for me. An expatriate is someone living in a country that he or she is not a citizen of. Living is the present tense of to live. Are you able to city any sort of consensus? Or is that a requirement only for me? With all due respect, WP:OSE isn't an argument needing a response. nableezy - 06:46, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  expat? 

message: These sites "The Multilingual Website of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah"Archive; Interview on 11 August 2007; Interview with Al-Jazeera on 20 July 2006; Interview with Al-Jazeera; The Beirut File: An Interview with Hassan Nasrallah by Mahir Tan dont open. 
These links Video Clip of Victory Speech on 22 September 2006; Nasrallah's Sun Video; Speech given on 26 May 2008; Speech on 3 August 2006; Speech on 31 July 2006; Speech on 14 July 2006; Speech on 8 March 2005 does not open correctly.--Samral (talk) 11:40, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links & Speeches and interviews 

message: In the first section, there is a simple linguistic error, which can be rectified by the replacement of a single word. Noting here so the next edit by a confirmed editor can correct it:
Under his tenor,
should read:
Under his tenure,
Feel free to remove this section from talk page after this has been done. 
54.240.196.186 (talk) 23:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, you are absolutely correct. Changed now, thanks for letting us know! Huldra (talk) 23:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  tenor vs tenure 

message: He has made some remarks in interviews about the Yemen war. I will not cite any particular singular source but instead simply point this out. Some of the comments could be included in the main article, since it is fairly recent ~2 years old only. 2A02:8388:1641:4700:BE5F:F4FF:FECD:7CB2 (talk) 17:38, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yemen war 

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message: I recommend correcting this sentence: "But there was no sources mentioned about his mother's name"
with something like: " No references found for his mother's name".  
   
Naming consistency - I recommend checking for consistency in the names Abbas al-Musawi (mentioned once as Abbas Musawi),and Sadr (mentioned at the end of this section without the full name Mohammad Baqir al-Sadr, and missing the hyperlink )
Elimarcus (talk) 07:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  early life and education 

message: Making Russia the only named ally of Hezbollah in the lede is garbage, conceived to tar the latter with the whipped-up frenzy over Putin (and Trump). Why no mention of Iran, who has certainly been a longer and more trusted ally of the Hezbollah movement? If you can't answer this, you should just go add it now. 174.115.100.93 (talk) 05:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV? 

message: Hi dear admin. i request for permissions to edit just the religion of hasan nasr-allah in the article. you can do it yourself, if i'm not qualified to have such access. thanks in advance. best regards.Sepehr.Sǎsǎni (talk) 02:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:44, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  hi again. i only want to add his religion in the infobox. i would be grateful if you do that, by adding the following characters in the infobox. thanks.Sepehr.Sǎsǎni (talk) 12:07, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't put religion in infoboxes. As far as I can tell, this person's religion is mentioned at least ten times in the article, which is probably sufficient. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:11, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 October 2019 

message: I uploaded these few photos with a license. Please add it to the article. Thanks
: :File:Hassan Nasrallah's speech in May 2000 (2).png :File:Hassan Nasrallah's speech in May 2000 (1).png :File:Hassan Nasrallah's speech in May 2000 (3).png :File:Hassan Nasrallah's speech in May 2000 (4).png
– Hoseina051311 (talk) 15:40, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now:  Images are to help the readers understanding of an article, if you could note where the images should be placed in the article and a caption for the images. See WP:GALLERY & MOS:IRELEV for more. Thanks Terasail[✉] 15:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I actually explained in the description of Wikimedia Commons... He speaks after the end of the South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) and I suggest you put this in "Consequently, Nasrallah is credited in Lebanon and the Arab world for ending the Israeli occupation of the South...." thanks --Hoseina051311 (talk) 09:10, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: The images are blurry and the article already contains multiple high-quality images of Hassan Nasrallah. Since MOS:Images#Image quality states that blurry images should only be added when "absolutely necessary". They have not been added at this time. Terasail[✉] 14:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 December 2020 

message: Hassan Nasrallah died today 19 Jan 2021  in an explosion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2300:9D1:807F:1B6:D868:D0EB (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Zero evidence of such an extraordinary event exists.  As such, this is currently Twitter chatter and not credible by any standard of wikipedia. 19:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: He died 2.101.189.137 (talk) 20:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 January 2021 

message: I created a paragraph about his image in lead, and it needs expanding and cover more things. Therer is some ideas and sources in my sandbox. It has to be general, then we can add a "Public image"/"Legacy" § later. -- Maudslay II (talk) 09:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: 'Hassan Nasrallah ( ; born 31 August 1960) is a Lebanese cleric and leader who serves as the 3rd secretary-general of political terrorist organization Hezbollah since his predecessor, Abbas al-Musawi Mayonnaise2001 (talk) 21:45, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:58, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 June 2021 

message: This article is extremely dated, possibly because it has been ptrotected. The last facts mentioned belong to 2013.--Reciprocist (talk) 07:38, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dated 

message: This is not true at all and portrays a false picture of Nasrallah. For a large part of the Lebanese population, Nasrallah is a terrorist and very bad person. He is assumed responsible, along with other leaders, for the large explosion in Beirut port on August 4th, 2020. He is accused of having his supporters attack protesters' camps in Beirut city during the October revolution. And just recently, his followers attacked several places in Beirut, killing 8. 
He is regarded as a hero in the Hezbollah and Amal-run areas of Beirut, in the southern part of Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley. But for the rest of the population, he is a nightmare. Please remove this information or phrase it more neutral.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulschlag (talk • contribs) 19:42, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nasrallah is described as a "national hero" and "icon" in Lebanon" 

message: "Narallah is described as a "national hero" and "icon" in Lebanon and throughout the Arab and Muslim world" this is a sentence that I extracted from the article, this is not true. the truth is that hassan nasrallah is considered a terrorist in lebanon and the arab and muslim world. and a leader of a terrorist organization 
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/3/hezbollahs-nasrallah-accuses-saudi-arabia-of-terrorism
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-designates-son-of-hezbollah-leader-sayyed-hassan-nasrallah-a-terrorist-1946977
https://www.dw.com/en/australia-to-list-hezbollah-as-terrorist-organization/a-59914150
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/27/saudi-arabia-hezbollah-lebanon-al-qard-al-hassan-terrorists
and there is many many other articles that you can find
: Not done for now: Can you please sign your name and put the changes in a change x to y format please. Zippybonzo (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done period, NYT supports the icon in the Arab world phrasing. The sources provided are about Saudi Arabis designating Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. nableezy - 19:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  not an icon, a terrorist 

message: His birth day: November 28 
He is celebrating it today and many Lebanese television programs are celebrating too 91.240.82.50 (talk) 15:51, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 November 2022 

message: Hassan Nasrallah is a named terrorist and militia leader along being a cleric leader in the Shiia community. 81.105.105.34 (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 March 2023 

message: In the Image section, I believe you should also considering his negative view in different country as an active terrorist group leader. Ajrdcth (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  lacking information about Nassrallah's involvement in terrorist activity 

message: Under 2006 Israel–Lebanon conflict, photo has caption with typo "Nashrallah in 2005", which is a misspelling of the name (Nasrallah). Avigl (talk) 15:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption for photo "Nasrallah in 2005" typo 

message: I think we should add his views on homosexuals which aren't pretty like his views on Israel or Jews RickyBlair668 (talk) 06:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Views on homosexuals  

message: I made a lousy attempt at summarizing the lede; as the body isn't comprehensive. It needs some further work still. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede 

message: In the personal life section it says On 5 July 2024, Hezbollah media stated that Nasrallah's mother, Hajja Umm Hassan, had passed away. and this is the citation Mother of Hezbollah chief passes away" Tehran Times 25 May 2024 Farrafiq (talk) 17:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 17:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2024