Talk:Gopher (protocol)

message: Jun 05 23:15:11 <dsf777b>	https://gitlab.com/SSS8555/acid - gopher client with page caching
Jun 05 23:15:50 <dsf777b>	https://gitlab.com/SSS8555/save_gopher_server Safe, secure and standalone portable gopher server with G6 extention
Jun 05 23:34:04 <zcrayfish>	What does the G6 do that gopher+ didn't do?
Jun 05 23:34:39 <zcrayfish>	Also are you a fan of THX1138? :)
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	1. requests for line ranges
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	2. CRC32 in requests to prevent sending files in cache
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	3. transfer size and error codes
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	5. user filling forms
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	6. realtime data streaming
Jun 05 23:37:32 <dsf777b>	7. TFTP support
Jun 05 23:38:27 <nm0i>	Looks like features. Features are bad.
Jun 05 23:39:13 <zcrayfish>	5 is a gopher+ feature.... 7 is for uploads?
Jun 05 23:39:20 <dsf777b>	everething optional and backward compatable
Jun 05 23:41:04 <dsf777b>	upload files not yet supported
Jun 05 23:41:30 <zcrayfish>	I don't understand the purpose of TFTP support in that case.
Jun 05 23:41:43 <dsf777b>	also gopher+ dont have any user filling forms
Jun 05 23:42:15 <dsf777b>	TFTP for low end clients and high load servers
Jun 05 23:47:52 <dsf777b>	https://gitlab.com/SSS8555
Jun 05 23:52:52 <zcrayfish>	no cgi support.... but forms support? 
Jun 05 23:53:46 <dsf777b>	it save all posts in configureted directory, a script can check the dir and perform some actions
Jun 05 23:55:09 <dsf777b>	have script to compile site for TFTP server
Jun 05 23:55:41 <dsf777b>	HTML to Gopher converter with links
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Edia4545m (talk • contribs) 04:11, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOL 

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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110804183515/http://gopher.floodgap.com:80/1/new to http://gopher.floodgap.com/1/new
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replies: text: The bot failed to rescue this link. I'll fix it eventually, but if anyone is able to fix it before me, that would be nice. zcrayfish (talk) 08:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The subparagraph "By 1992, the standard method of locating someone's e-mail address was to find their organization's CCSO nameserver entry in Gopher, and query the nameserver" has no citation to back up this statement (the cited link is merely to a newsgroup article on the subject). "The standard method" implies that this was widespread across all email users, and that it would be used by most people on the internet. As a user in 1992 I certainly never came across it, and unless I'm mistaken no-one I ever spoke to used this mechanism, and although it may have been "standard method" within a restricted set of users (those organisations that were using gopher already, say) that would definitely require the text receive some qualification. gwinkless (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins subpara: "The standard method of locating someone's email address " 

message: Am I the only one who considers the S6 G6 additions to the gophertypes section to be unnotable? They're not in the RFC or the gopher+ or gopherII proposals.
As far as I can tell those additions are more or less reinventing many gopher+ features, and are only supported by one client (which is flagged as malware by Windows Defender) and one server... Neither of which are widely in use, and most references I see to them are from, to put it bluntly, spam on wikipedia and IRC.
zcrayfish (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  S6 

message: The following sources might be useful:
# Internet Publishing Handbook, Chapter 3: Gopher and Gopher+
# The Web may have won, but Gopher tunnels on
# Overbite Project brings Gopher protocol to Android
Anton.bersh (talk) 08:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  More sources 

message: Hello all,
I have removed ACID, Gophie, and Lagrange from the list of web clients as they do not appear to be web clients at all. 
I think the article should have a native gopher client section in which these software would fit in.
zcrayfish (talk) 03:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-WWW software in web clients section. 

message: Please unwikilink John Goerzen as the article has been deleted. Thank you. 84.69.151.40 (talk) 21:38, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: - FlightTime (open channel) 21:41, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2021 

message: The two screenshots in "Gopher characteristics" are unreadable and no higher-res versions are available. They should be replaced or deleted. Thoughts? AmateurHistorian (talk) 19:59, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, they appear to be low resolution due to fair-use/copyright concerns... I would be more than happy to take a screenshot of a server that I control (or someone else's if they don't mind) and release said screenshot directly into the public domain; unless anyone has any objections zcrayfish (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreadable screenshots 

message: I've removed the screenshot of Kristal as I feel it unfairly promotes that client over and above the others listed. Either they all get a screenshot, or none of them do (and I'm saying this as the author of Gopher Browser for Windows). I've left the Firefox one in, as that's a historic client before gopher fully fell out of fashion.
If we want a generic diagram of the structure of a gopher menu, I am happy to draw one for the 'Gopher Characteristics' section? Jaruzel 09:04, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Kristal screenshot 

message: I have removed the gophertypes `j' and `w' from the article as the way they were described do not match extant usage. I was unable to find any documentation whatsoever on type j.
As for type w, since the early 90s in at least libwww-based gopher browsers and proxy servers, type w is used for for URLs, not for documents.
The non-canonical item types section is getting large and wishful; it would be nice if folks would cite their sources when adding to this section.
zcrayfish (talk) 02:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed gophertypes `j' and `w' 

message: One of the references, "Hacking Capitalism" by Johan Söderberg  links to the internet archive, where the book has been taken down: https://archive.org/details/hackingcapitalis00sder_520 Drewmca (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link on ref 14