Talk:Winterreise

message: is repeated elsewhere--Scuiqui fox 16:48, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirect it and merge it, then. There's no need to delete it. —No-One Jones (m) 17:20, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I want to add the key of each song in the cycle. Since the publications are not always a reliable source (especially concerning the field of lieder), I tend to rely on the recording of Hans Jörg Mammel  with Arthur Schoonderwoerd on fortepiano (Alpha 101). They mention in the liner notes that they'd researched it and present a recording of Winterreise using the original keys. Any objections? Cut2 (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This would perhaps be most useful in table form with room for the transposed keys of different editions as well as the two autograph sources.   How about an new section =Editions and transpositions=? Sparafucil (talk) 10:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid I didn't got it all: you want a table, OK. But what columns would you include? High-voice/Low-voice? My point was a bit different - There is the well-known version (in which, for example, the last song is in A minor), but this CD of Mammel/Schoonderwoerd claims that some of the keys were meant to be different (in their version, the last song is in B minor). On the one hand, the well-known version is OK, it's not a mistake, but maybe it is worth it to make a table which would show the few songs which were altered. About new section =Editions and transpositions=, this is a good place to include the High/Low-voice table. Maybe I'll start with the Original VS. Final Keys table, and you'll conclude with the Transposition table? Cut2 (talk) 14:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Keys

message: What's more correct - "Wasserflut" or "Wasserfluth"? I've seen both, although Google is of the opinion that Wasserfluth isn't a word. --Chainedwind (talk) 03:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasserflut is correct. Wasserfluth isn't German. You can download the complete Winterreise by Schubert (with the original German titles) for free at RowyNet: http://www.rowy.net/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.170.61.66 (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Both have been considered correct German at various times; I would favor Müller's own spellings. Sparafucil (talk) 21:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Archaic spellings

message: I'd like to thank the editors who've worked on this article, it's generally very nice.  But.
I've added  tags to a few places in the article.  I think that some of them are WP:PEACOCK language, or very nearly so.  While I have no problem with the general sentiments expressed, I think some of the language needs to be cited, rewritten, or removed.
While I was there, I moved the paragraph on recordings into its own section.  I'll also be redoing the citations (to use  and ) fairly soon, unless someone objects.
Magicpiano (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Peacock language

message: Should we put "The winter's journey " next to Winterrse; people get confused when searching up the english name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragon276 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Why did Schubert change Muller's words in the places listed?  The change destroys the rhyme in Irrlicht and Wegweiser, and makes no sense in Erstarrung. Purplecarrot2 (talk) 23:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schubert's word changes 

message: Yes, this page is far from perfect. The way to improve it is not just by deleting sentences which are sourced and referenced, thank you almost-instinct 09:58, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: I have just attended a concert at which "Winterreise" was given, accompanied by a commentary by a professor of the German language, who said with what seemed to be great confidence that at the time the original poems were written, "Winter" was in wide use as a metaphor for the restoration of the monarchical order in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) after the defeat of Napoleon and the resulting work of the Congress of Vienna, and that this was known to Schubert -- the "Winter Journey" should therefore, he said, be viewed as a metaphor for the sad journey of Europe being plunged back into the old social order.
I had never heard this interpretation before but the professor seemed to think it was beyond doubt.  Does anyone know of any support for this interpretation?  Partnerfrance (talk) 00:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Winter" 

message: There seem to be some uncited opinions in the "Recordings" section, e.g., " a very powerful account", "beautifully song rendition" etc. Barring some chance to cite these, I intend to remove them. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 15:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinions in the "Recordings" section