Talk:Indian Forest Service

message: After the creation of India, less than 20% of the forest land is remaining. That is what this department has achieved.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.201.254.252 (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  After the formation of India, what happened? 

message: Hello, Thanks for your contributions to improving this article. The use of boldface throughout is excessive in my opinion, and inconsistent with WP:MOS. (What the article needs most immediately for further development, in my view, is the addition of references, based on published secondary sources, verifying and documenting various information in it.) Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive use of boldface 

message: Currently, this article has just two inline citations, one from a primary source. Many more references, especially from secondary sources needed. Thus the {Refimprove} tag goes back up until this is remedied. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:39, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: There is a wrong information provided on this page on the training of IFS. It is mentioned they receive their foundation course training at National Academy of Direct Taxes ,but actually it is done at the Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of Administration at Mussorie. As the page is semi protected , i couldn't edit it . This is a kind of vandalism , providing wrong information. It is kindly requested to edit the wrong information as soon as possible .
for reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Bahadur_Shastri_National_Academy_of_Administration
Anup patra (talk) 16:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think edit request should be granted as there are sources to prove the same in the article.IFS (Forest) is no longer trained in LBSNAA.
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Uncletomwood (talk) 06:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 9 October 2013 

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message: Subject fails WP:GNG. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:08, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ok--61.3.99.170 (talk) 13:59, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Klbrain (talk) 18:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[:Principal Chief Conservator of Forests]] into [[:Indian Forest Service]]  

message: It will become apparent to any frequent observer of this page, or of Indian Foreign Service (or indeed many other pages relating to the civil services of India), that there is general dispute over which of the two has the better claim to the initialism "IFS", as played out by a slow-time edit war in which various combinations of "IFS", "IFoS" and the full names of both organisations are swapped out over and over, in a prime example of Wikipedia:WRONG.
I have tried without success to source an "official" answer to this question - but even if there was one, it seems that the common usage is fairly contested regardless. As we seem to be seeing an increasing number of edits concerned solely with the initialism "IFS", I propose the following compromises are observed in respect of the two organisations in any articles relating to them (including, but not limited to: Indian Foreign Service, Indian Forest Service, Civil Services of India, Civil Services Examination (India), Central Civil Services, All India Services and IFS).
* Compromise #1: We will not use the initialism "IFoS" on either IFS page. 
:Rationale: "IFoS" seems to be used principally by proponents of one organisation to refer to the other, and equally seems to be rejected by proponents of each organisation to refer to their own. Aside from some references on the UPSC website, there doesn't seems to be significant common usage of it elsewhere on the web to refer to either organisation. When used on one of the two pages, it should be assumed that the initialism refers to the organisation about which that page is concerned, so distinguishing between the IFS and the IFS is unnecessary.
* Compromise #2a: We will avoid the use of "the IFS" on either IFS page, and instead use either "the Foreign Service" or "the Forest Service". 
:Rationale: It seems unlikely that leaving the initialism "IFS" on either page will go unmolested for long. Neither "the Foreign Service" nor "the Forest Service" are particularly unwieldy, Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia and so using 13/14 characters rather than 3 is not a problem.
* Compromise #2b: We will avoid the use of "IFS" or "IFoS" on any articles that refer to the organisations. Instead, we will use either "the Foreign Service" or "the Forest Service", or avoid the initialism altogether. 
:Rationale: Including either initialism after one of the organisation's name rarely adds anything and just seems to provoke edits that solely vary it to the other.
* Compromise #3: We will not remove or amend the initialism "IFS" on either IFS page, should it appear. 
:Rationale: This is more of an attempt to prevent edit warring. When used on either Indian Forest Service or Indian Foreign Service, there is no doubt that "IFS" refers to the organisation about which that page is concerned, and multiple, repeated edits that solely seek to change this initialism are not constructive. Hopefully, if we move away from using "IFS" on the two IFS articles, this will stop being much of a problem.
In a nutshell: #1 stop using "IFoS", #2 don't use "IFS", but instead use the organisation's short name, #3 don't edit solely to change "IFS" to something else.
I hope this can provide something of a way forward for these two articles that is a little more constructive that the current situation. I am mindful that seeking to establish consensus in relation to such a large number of articles isn't easy, so I have linked to this discussion from the talk pages of the articles listed above, and at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. ninety:one   23:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the "IFS" and "IFoS" initialisms