Talk:Provinces of Sweden

message: The basic templates for each of the province articles are covered in two WikiProjects: WikiProject Swedish provinces and WikiProject historical provinces in Finland. -- Mic 08:02 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Why are you using the outdated Latinized forms of the province names, names never used and only to be found in age-old official Swedish documents? In English, or any other non-Swedish, literature you will only find the Swedish names or transcripts thereof (Scania-Skåne being the sole exception). And when the Latinzed forms are nothing but transcripts themselves why not use the normal Swedish/English names that, not surprisingly, actually are used by all other sources?: Matle 15:54, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The English Wikipedia gives the impression that the Swedish Provinces are some archaic division of Sweden no longer used and very much written in the past tense (and for some reason even uses the old latin names). This is completely wrong. The provinces may not have anything to do with the current governance of the the country, but they are still very much used as geographic regions, and identity for the people who live in them. Wikipedia in this instance has even posioned Google's Index so if you for example do a Google search for Smalandia nearly all of the top links can be traced back to Wikipedia.
I would like to hear any objections to moving these provinces to their modern names, and arguments against doing so.
--pflodo 14:23, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)
 
I will continue my discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Swedish provinces, as that is a more logical place --pflodo 10:14, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)
:Well, of course this division is in some way archaic. It is still used in many contexts, but it is has no administrative or political significance. --Muniswede 19:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree pflodo, in school we never learned the names of the "Län" we learned the "Landskap". Chandlertalk 14:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  These 'landskap' are not archaic! 

message: Quoting the current article, "Sweden was historically divided into the four lands."
This is not particularly correct, rather confusing. This partition is a modern idea, and the term "land" historically applied to the landskap (ie, Sweden was historically divided into 20+ lands). Norrland, Svealand, Götaland have always been collective terms and not a historical division. Part of the confusion lies in that the official Sweden makes a rather curious translation of landskap into province. "Land" would be a more proper translation, since not only has it been synonymous with "landskap" in Swedish: as opposed to 'province' it has also the same meaning and use in English. It's surely too late for such a correction, but the part about Sweden consisting of four lands need to be revisioned. It would be interesting to know from where the author got this idea about the quartering though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.46.221 (talk) 09:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know who wrote that, or when, but that's quite correct, except in one topic: it's never too late to change, the article should be moved to lands of Sweden, and this provinces of Sweden be updated to contain modern regions only. (With reservations for changing my mind.) Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 06:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Nope, I referred to the dictionary (Norstedts Engelska Ordbok 1997, ), which supported the current structure of en.wikipedia. I'll do no changes. Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 06:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History provinces according to lands??

message: This article should concentrate on Sweden within its present-day boundaries. Of course it could be mentioned that Finland once was a part of Sweden. But I think it is a bit "too much" in this arrticle. Finland was lost 200 years ago and has been an independent republic since 90 years. The article name is after all "Provinces of Sweden". --Muniswede (talk) 11:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move some sections to articles about provinces in Finland

message: Only Blekinge and Gotland are mentioned... but Skåne län (municipality) if of course named after the province. This is a fairly recent municipality, coming into existecne through the joining of two existing municipalites... 
Oh, and of course Skåne = Scania!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marchin Man (talk • contribs) 16:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No. The Municipalities of Sweden (kommuner) are the level under the Counties of Sweden (län). There are 290 municipalities, gruped in 21 counties. The counties have boards under the central government. There are also County Councils of Sweden (landsting) which are self governing entities with the same territory as the counties. Of the kommuner only Gotland Municipality and Härjedalen Municipality are named after one of the historic Provinces of Sweden (landskap). Of the län, however, 12 are named after such a province, but only two have same boundaries. --Muniswede (talk) 20:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  municipalities named after provinces 

message: What is with the 'province' thing? In the Sweden articles, 'Landskap' is translated as 'province' and 'län' is translated as 'county'. However in Finland articles, 'lääni' (what is the same in Finland as 'län' is in Sweden) is 'province' and 'maakunta' (what is the equivalent of 'landskap') is 'region'. And indeed, fi:Suomen maakunnat links to sv:Landskap i Finland and fi:Suomen läänit links to sv:Finlands län. Is there some good reason to use these this way for Sweden? 109.240.136.45 (talk) 15:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  these are provinces? 

message: Could the large map be made more clear as to why it is split into 3 different colours (which represent Götaland, Svealand and Norrland)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kats987124 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This could be done by editing the file's description so that it will display a color legend used to identify the three lands. Of course, there are alternatives, but that is an acceptable one. While I am too busy working on a template for the map in my sandbox (see the discussion on a possible imagemap template), I am open to doing it once I have finished what I am doing. In the meantime, feel free to do it yourself. FreeMediaKid! 05:15, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As an update, after I finished my map, I went ahead and added the legend so no one else has to. FreeMediaKid! 06:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map in provinces section  

message: I have recently begun work on an imagemap template in my sandbox. It is not the most important idea for improvement and merely complements the image, but once done, it would make pulling up articles on the provinces much more intuitive and less awkward. Just to be safe, I am posting here to make sure that I have no objections to make the change once the template—provisionally titled Template:Provinces of Sweden imagemap—has been completed. FreeMediaKid! 05:15, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of the lack of swift opposition, I went ahead and created it. The template is already used in the article, and although it is missing documentation, that will not be the case for long. It will be ready within a few hours as of this post. FreeMediaKid! 06:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I just got that done. FreeMediaKid! 06:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imagemap