Talk:Bad Girls Club

message: So the page is on lock right now since the death of someone from season 12 was published in many sources. This is a CLASSIC case of "it doesn't matter WHAT the facts are, as long as there are reliable sources."---and this information HAS been reported far and wide all going-back to ONE source which is the woman's TV-network. As an editor, I'm not real satisfied with that, because an obituary would at least confirm age and maybe some other public details. We really don't even have an exact date of death, just the date that it was reported.
I think that we could safely edit something like (reported deceased), with a cite or ref to a reliable source article--(of which there are many), and leave it at that. I know that we don't usually require primary sources or death-certificates, or even obituaries per-se, but something is weird here. It could very well be that the family, (who are BLP--and even the woman shortly after death is considered BLP)-----is in mourning right now, and/or do not want publicity, but I am NOT comfortable with asterisking a "deceased" unless it is verified further, and until then the reality character/person is "reported-as" deceased imo.2601:C:6783:6A01:C80C:A620:F3FB:D718 (talk) 02:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for adding the ref. The page went into lockdown because (1) there's a user who keeps vandalizing it and (2) people kept adding the death without any references. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  02:12, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You are very welcome. I guess that death always has to be referenced really unless they are over a hundred and fifty lol. In this case, death is being reported and the page has seen an increase in visitors, some of who I am sure are editors checking to see if the info. has been added. http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Bad_Girls_Club ChangalangaIP (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of a Bad Girl/page lockdown 

message: Originally when I made the decision to split the season's of Bad Girls Club into their own individual articles back in 2010, I introduced the 'Duration of Cast' subsection. I am beginning to regret ever doing so as it continues to be the prime suspect of vandalism by IPs and WP:VOAs on Bad Girls Club articles. I decided to bring this topic to the forefront of WP:RfC and users who are regular combats of the constant vandalism found on Bad Girls Club related articles (and others who stumble upon them), to decide whether or not the "Duration of Cast" is encyclopedic and appropriate for this subgenre of television. The purpose of the "Duration of Cast" is to showcase the cast members appearance on their respective seasons by using various color codes for various denotations (e.g., removed, replacement joins). This table, though fails WP:ACCESS, was based on another subgenre of television such as game shows, whereas Bad Girls Club is a reality television show not based on competitive challenges. Because of this, the "Duration of Cast" is not appropriate for this subgenre of television, as producers do not plan to have a cast member removed from the show (even if it's always an occurrence) as it is not a game show like Survivor and Big Brother where producers plan to have an eviction or an ejection from the show as it progresses into the season. In Bad Girls Club, there is no eviction episode or an episode where producers plan to have a cast member voted out; if this was the case the "Duration of Cast" would be appropriate for Bad Girls Club. Currently, the "Duration of Cast" is seen as a battleground for IPs and VOAs who constantly rearrange or introduce color codes and start a color war based on fan cruft and are not based on reliable sources; rarely do you see an IP or VOA introduced a non-social media source to the article(s). Since its introduction the table used in Bad Girls Club have been duplicated into other non-game shows such as The Real Housewives. I would like to get consensus on this issue, should Bad Girls Club articles (with the exception of Bad Girls All-Star Battle) be stripped from the usage of the "Duration of Cast" based on the information provided above or should we continue to encourage the table and if so, which methods should be performed to tackle the current issues it faces? (vandalism, WP:ACCESS, color wars, and encyclopedic). Best, jona(talk) 16:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duration of cast vandalism and approach 

message: The 16th and 17th installments of the series have been confirmed by Oxygen via television promos. The 16th season is called Social Disruption and will premier in September of 2016.  The 17th installment will be an East Coast vs. West Coast installment and is still in the casting process.  This information should be added to the main page for Bad Girls Club.
Nightmusic0825 (talk) 03:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Seasons 

message: Since the cast photo is out and we know he girls we should make a page for bgc16 Baconnnmmmmmmm (talk) 23:40, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: True that ^^^. Literally we know all the girls names and stuff and it comes out in less than a month, there should be a page for it. There was and then someone deleted it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starbucks6789 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

text: The minimum requirement for a season article is a sourced episode list. At the moment the only information available is a cast list. When the episode table can be created, a season article can be created at Bad Girls Club (season 16), not Bad Girls Club: Social Disruption or Season 16. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:44, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Firstly, you don't need to create a new section every time you post. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Verifiability,  Wikipedia:Notability (especially the general notability guideline) and MOS:TV. Subjects require discussion in reliable sources. We can't just create articles willy nilly. At the moment the only source that has been presented is one listing the cast. That alone is not sufficient justification to create an article, as already stated. Also as stated above, . Can you create a sourced episode table? If so, then create a draft at Draft:Bad Girls Club (season 16) and submit it for creation. If it's suitable for moving to article space, Bad Girls Club (season 16) can be unprotected and the draft moved there. It's really that simple. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:40, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: But the page that is made is perfectly fine! So why is it hidden, and why can I only get to the page from the link you just gave me. I think it deserves to be out and open. Not hidden. Starbucks6789 (talk) 02:42, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The latest version of Bad Girls Club (season 16) was created after you posted here. It's not hidden. --AussieLegend (✉) 19:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make a bgc16 page 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Jaimee and Jaz from season 15 are actually from Philadelphia, PA. Not from Florida. Paulkellyy (talk) 02:00, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2021 

message: theres a tell all video of the Clermont twins explaining their experiences and they revealed that the cast members/the girls fed their dogs some laxatives and the production company was getting charged/sued for allowing animal abuse as well as other situations they revealed on it. 
this probably would have given it their own section under controversy  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.204.164.130 (talk) 18:46, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 14 controversy 

message: Y’all should have a bad girl for teens 2601:2C0:4B00:60C0:410D:DA1:C7AC:CC30 (talk) 06:09, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the worst idea I've ever heard.  Tttttarleton (talk) 17:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Y’all should have a bad girl for teens 

message: Now I get that the premise of the show is to call grown women "girls", but I believe that we, as encyclopedia editors, should not stoop to the level of the show. As I have been taught to be a gentleman, it is demeaning to call grown women "girls" as if they are minors or children or immature. Please let's keep the colloquial term to a minimum according to the needs of the article and the inherent dignity of women, especially those who choose to participate in this series. Elizium23 (talk) 01:37, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belittling of women