Talk:Food intolerance

message: Well, its not much, but I thought it was misleading how food intolerance redirected to food allergy, since the conditions are not the same at all. Not knowing much about the subject myself, all I felt that I could contribute was a couple of sentences. I'm also adding an expert tag. If you can contribute, please do! cøøkiə Ξ (talk) 15:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert 

message: I think it would also be good to include information about growing awareness on food intolerance in the general public. More and more airlines will let you choose a wheat and dairy free meal on longer flights. Even in supermarkets (in Europe) it is becoming more common to find wheat-free and dairy-free products. Also egg-free products can be found. 194.7.74.197 13:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awareness 

message: I have today addad some further wording/expansion and called this first section the Introduction. I will add further in near future on the food chemical aspects, including diagnosis, treatment, etc.Jagra 01:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions

message: I think the references you are looking for are; Leaky gut in CFS   ‘Allergies’ and leaky gut  Jagra (talk) 07:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: This page needs a lot of work.  The opening sentence demonstrates the problem: "Food intolerance or food sensitivity is a negative reaction to a food that may or may not be related to the immune system or to food poisoning."  In other words, food intolorance is just about anything.  
Someone with a level of expertise needs to (1) write a good definition and (2) set up a system of subheads reflecting the different types and subtypes of food intolerance.
A specific question: If an intolerance is not immune system-mediated but does produce reactions outside the gut (e.g., on the skin, etc.), what IS mediating the symptoms?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.212.108.131 (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just maybe it reflects what the article and references say ??? but who would expect a sockpuppet to knowe? Jagra (talk) 03:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vague, overgeneral, doesn't say much 

message: Help writing Elimination diet would be appreciated.  See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Elimination diet for some discussion and links. --Una Smith (talk) 05:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Elimination diet

message: Is there anyway that the editors that wrote this article can place the references after appropriate sentences instead of having a pile of references at the end of each section?PB666 yap 21:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a limit to that approach.  It's reasonable to reference a paragraph that way, but entire sections of several paragraphs is over the top.LeadSongDog (talk) 05:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I see no major different views except USA definitional seems to vary a lot. If need be a Controversy section could be added. Peerev (talk) 21:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Definitions

message: * http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+food+allergy+intolerance&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
--222.64.22.16 (talk) 10:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Food intolerance vs food allergy ... 

message: * Talk:Sodium metabisulfite#Info about sulfa (sulfite/sulfate) allergy....
--222.67.205.141 (talk) 04:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The topic of sulfa intolerance is created based on the following.... 

message: Hi, I have edited the article. I'm new to editing wikipedia. I felt the citing of one article stating IgG4 mediated food intolerances could have no bearing on food related complaints should be balanced by a study showing the success of avoiding these foods for IBS.
I would like to remove the following sentence as the diagnosis the article refers to is for food allergies not intolerances. Diagnosis is made using medical history and cutaneous and serological tests to exclude other causes, but to obtain final confirmation a Double Blind Controlled Food Challenge must be performed.[7] 
I would like to move this line to the treatment section:
Treatment can involve long-term avoidance, or if possible re-establishing a level of tolerance.
I have added in malabsorption as a type of food intolerance. There is no international standard (or tests, or aetiology etc.) regarding intolerances, or professional body associated. I believe for all intents and purposes, all food "reactions" should be included. 
There is still more work to be done on this page. I will see if I have more time. 
Thanks,
Eloerc (talk) 15:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: About the sentence you propose removing:  I think that excluding a "true allergy" is a perfectly normal and reasonable approach to diagnosing a food intolerance.  If you have a true, IgE-mediated Egg allergy, then you won't receive a diagnosis of Egg white#Intolerance (even if you have both conditions, which in this instance is actually possible).  WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias and accuracy 

message: I think the article on Food Intolerance would benefit from being made into an "umbrella" page.
There are some quite distinct diagnostic paths that are currently crammed under one heading.
*1 - FODMAP (fructose, lactose, etc) have a breath test, for two types of FODMAPs (fructose, lactose). However, for the other FODMAPs (incl. fructans, polyols & others) elimination diet is the only diagnostic process.  Also, the breath test was designed around irritable bowl symptoms, so people with other types of FODMAP symptoms will often test clear on the breath test.
*2 - Salicylate, Amine, Glutimate (flavor enhancers), Additives (colourings, flavourings, preservatives) Sensitivity to the food chemicals in this group is only diagnosable through elimination diet.
*3 - Gluten (non-coeliac intolerance) People who suspect gluten intolerance should start by doing the coeliac gene test, and following the ordinary medical diagnostic process. Those with a negative on the gene test and endoscopy who still suspect gluten intolerance can diagnose it through elimination diet.
*4 - Milk protein (not lactose)
There are also fundamental differences in the Management/Treatment of the different streams.  People with gluten issues typically avoid all traces of gluten.  By contrast, people who avoid the fructans(FODMAP) in wheat take a dosage-control approach, only needing to stay below their symptoms threshold. I'm also pretty sure that gluten tends to be a lifetime condition, while they recommend you re-test for FODMAPs every three years in the hope of seeing an improvement.
While there is a lot of good information on the FI page, a person trying to follow all the headings through could very easily confuse a piece of FODMAP information with the gluten information.  The ambitious scope of this page makes it very easy for the reader to end up taking information out of context.  I think that making Food Intolerance into an umbrella page would go a long way to de-tangling the threads going through it.
I am not offering to do this.  One of you experienced folk will need to think about it.  Just putting it out there to see what people think. --Another287person (talk) 07:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-write Food Intolerance as umbrella page 

message: I notice that no behavioral symptoms are currently mentioned in the symptoms section of the FI page.  This is a significant symptom category which is worthy of it's own little paragraph. The Wikipedia Salicylate sensitivity page already mentions the following behavioral symptoms: Hyperactivity, Memory loss and poor concentration, and Depression.
The Food Intolerance Network has collated extensive information on behavioral symptoms and FI. Some symptoms are caused by the FI, and other symptoms (like autism) are merely exacerbated by food chemicals (in some people). Those who have the food intolerance, can use diet to assist in the management of their underlaying condition.
Here are some links to give you an idea of the breadth of behavioral symptoms of FI. If someone is interested in pursuing this, you will need to chase down the proper WP:IRS links, but the following links are a heads up on what to look for.
Food Intolerance Network Symptom Factsheet Index
ADHD
Autism and Asperger
Down Syndrome
Eating Disorders
Head banging
Opposition Defiance Disorder
Self harm
Sensitivity to sound
Sleep disturbance and insomnia
Speech Delay
Stuttering
Tantrums
Teeth grinding
Tics and Tourettes
Trichitillomania (compulsive hair pulling)  
--Another287person (talk) 13:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: However, food intolerance is here defined as a food reaction that does not involve the immune system, and these kinds of symptoms may well result from immune reactions.  Puffysphere (talk) 22:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Behavioral Symptoms 

message: The diagnosis section needs to start with a clear paragraph saying that it is important to seek a formal diagnosis.  Something like:
::"Medical advice should be sought, in order to determine that symptoms do not have another more readily identifiable cause. Where food intolerance remains a possibility, some medical tests have been developed for some types of food intolerance (see below).  Where there is no reputable medical test, diagnosis must be made through the analysis of careful observations made in conjunction with an Elimination Diet and challenge program, preferably under the supervision of a dietician who is familiar with food intolerance diagnosis.  Dieticians warn that if diagnosis is not formalized, unnecessary dietary restriction can lead to adverse effects on nutrition and health [needs a reference]."
I think that a paragraph of this sort helps to further establish the necessity of a scientific approach to this subject, and will improve the quality of the FI page.
--Another287person (talk) 13:31, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that telling people that they ought to seek medical advice violates our rules against giving medical advice.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 14:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

text: Not only that, but food challenges can be dangerous.  Not necessarily recommended.  And, repeated illnesses from food challenges may damage the body in some way we don't know yet.  Puffysphere (talk) 18:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagnosis 

message: There's a lot of talk of food chemicals in the article which looks silly. 87.83.31.234 (talk) 22:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "food chemicals" 

message: Recent reviews show that leakage though tight junctions is modulated by zonulin. This impacts immune, autoimmune, and inflammatory responses. 
 and  pertain. LeadSongDog come howl! 02:41, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaky gut 

message: Feed intolerance isn't the same as food intolerance. We need a new page for the Neonatal disorder, whichi smore behavioral. Attn @User:Doc James 1.129.97.99 (talk) 11:36, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the difference? And do we have enough sources to support separate pages? Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:33, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Feed intolerance" <-- new page required ** 

message: "A very early and influential popular book on the subject of "food intolerance", including gluten sensitivity and elimination diets, was "Not All in the Mind" by Richard Mackarness which was published by Macmillan on January 16th, 1976 Richard Mackarness (January, 1976), Not All in the Mind, Macmillan, ISBN-10: 0330245929, ISBN-13: 978-0330245920."
Not supported by the ref. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have removed it as advertising. --Ronz (talk) 16:59, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Not supported

message: Besides hydrogen breath testing for lactose intolerance and fructose malabsorption, DNA tests can also be useful to detect coeliac disease and lactosa intolerance (MCM6 gene, and HLA-DQ gene).
See here
KVDP (talk) 17:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Diagnosis

message: Alergy 130.218.6.112 (talk) 17:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yeat