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Talk:Chapeau

message: There seems to be some confusion between the chapeau and the galero. Dr pda 19:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "The crest is born on the chapeau; and by the chapeau the crest and coat are separated; it being a rule that no crest must touch the shield immediately." <- I am honestly unable to meaningfully parse this sentence. Also, I'm fairly sure that "born" should be "borne". Falyne42 (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Coat of arms of the Drapers Company

message: :Category:Great Twelve City Livery Companies is itself a category within :Category:Livery companies. — Robert Greer (talk) 00:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Livery companies]] ''vs.'' [[:Category:Great Twelve City Livery Companies]]  
Talk:Cognizance

message: There are two articles on Cognizance, The technical Festival of IIT Roorkee. The name of the two articles is 'Cognizance' and 'Cognizance (Technical Festival)'. I therefore propose merger of the 'Cognizance (Technical Festival)' article into 'Cognizance'.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarunuee (talk • contribs) 18:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as this version was created by a cut and paste move , and that I just despammed Cognizance (Technical Festival) version, I have reverted this to a dab page. 66.57.4.150 (talk) 18:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplication of Article
Talk:Terence O'Neill

message: I've spotted two so far:
*a) in the lead, "he was Member of the Parliament of Northern Ireland for the Bannside constituency from 1946 until his forced resignation in April 1969 as communal conflict erupted." O'Neill did not resign from the House of Commons of Northern Ireland in April 1969.
*b) in the infobox, "Member of the Northern Ireland Parliament for Bannside In office 7 November 1946 – 16 April 1970". This can't be the case if, as stated later on, O'Neill was awarded a peerage in January 1970.
I've made an edit to correct the first of these. Perhaps some kind person could check the second for exact dates and then edit as necessary? Harfarhs (talk) 17:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual errors 
Talk:Cheryl Waters (actress)

message: Well, I found this page, seems to be a complete stub, so I went looking for more information.  Google turned up almost nothing.  I wanted to see if I could at least verify if she's still alive or not, and even that was inconclusive.  However, I did track down a site that had the address for her agent (where you could mail for autographs or something), which strongly suggests that she's still alive.  Plus, I found no obits, also suggestive.  So I think we assume she's alive for now.  No idea about DOB or other standard biographical details. -- Xtifr 11:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard to find
Talk:Hanging scroll

message: Handscroll redirects here. On the other hand, this article says: "The hanging scroll is different from the handscroll...". Which is correct? bamse (talk) 22:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, made a stub there. Cold Season (talk) 21:26, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handscroll=Hanging scroll? 
Talk:Cross fleury

message: : Not only do the arm-ends represent flowers, but they also have the appearance of horns or crowns. Therefore these crosses are used mainly in heraldry, especially in France.
Therefore?! —Tamfang (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  horns and France 

message: I cut this sentence:
: In the Fleury Cross, as with the Fleur-de-lis and Patonce Crosses, the three petals represent faith, wisdom and chivalry when used in heraldry, and the Trinity when used as a Christian Cross.
The only sweeping statement that's true about the meaning of a heraldic charge is that there generally is no consistent meaning.  The petals may represent virtues or the Trinity or France or Florence or a pretty way to distinguish one cross from another. —Tamfang (talk) 05:16, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  alleged symbolism
Talk:Cross moline

message: Hi, looking up "cross moline" in Google I came up with this bit of information, which I was about to add to the page:
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:A reference to this symbol, of uncertain origin, occurs in the Mother Goose, as a children's jumprope ditty attested in the northern British Isles: The Moline Cross. Accessed April 19, 2009
::Moline Cross, Moline Cross,
::My gain is now loss
::Oh, who will redeem me?
::Moline Cross, Moline Cross.
----
However I could not find any reference to this rhyme through Google, other than the referenced Geocities page.  So it cannot be added to the article yet.  Does anyone have any independent source for this ditty?  All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 03:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea if it's a legit nursery rhyme, but if it is, then it will probably be listed in one of the Opie and Opie books... AnonMoos (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mother goose rhyme on Cross Moline? 

message: A Cercelée is described as basically an exaggerated Cross Moline, and there is not much more to say about it than that, so we might as well merge this as a section of this article. BD2412 T 02:38, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from [[Cercelée]]
Talk:Cross of Saint James

message: The depicted black cross is not the cross as it is known. It neither has a sword blade, but more of a small picket, nor the fleury ending but rather something brushy. I replaced it with the more common depiction in Spain. Arnoutf 17:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  See Talk:James%2C_son_of_Zebedee#Images for a more complete discussion on this, and why I argue it is not appropriate. Arnoutf 22:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I removed the Cunnan reference for 2 reasons. First of all; it is a wiki, and wiki refering guidelines explicitly state that no reference to wiki articles is not a good reference.
Secondly the reference as used implies that the Cross of StJames is a cross fitch fleury. But all that the cunnan article says is "In heraldry, a cross fitchy is any cross whose lower point has been converted into a long point. The term "fitchy" derives from the French for fixed, and indicates a cross that would be stuck into the ground. The cross represented here is a cross fitchy flory, because the other three points are that of a cross flory. " (which is never doubted; the point under debate is whether cross st James is one).
I also have some serious doubts about the (scientific) quality of the Seiyaku reference. That site states the following "Cross Barby or Cross Barbee; but not a cross Barbie; you'll have to check a doll website for that story!". That makes me seriously doubt the quality of the whole site. But I left that one on for now. Arnoutf 08:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What does the "Fitch" refer to? Chris 20:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I knew I should have learned to read. Chris 20:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Thanks to  for the work on the article. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests/Archives/2022#April–June. --evrik (talk) 22:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: GOCE

message: Source which might be useful towards making the article more comprehensive:
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This is just a sampling of what can be found towards helping this article meet 1b, comprehensive and 1c, well researched; I suspect there is much more to be found, but stopped there.  Featured articles will not typically use encyclopedias as sources, even though those may squeak by at WP:GAN. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  13:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comprehensive
Talk:Gonfalon

message: Is this a secondary meaning that has been edited out? I don't see anything in the text suggesting it. -- Resuna (talk) 08:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there a picture of a lance head on this page? 

message: This is a common misconception. It is caused by the Italians who confused the two words. A gonfalone is a flag, in the period of "Sede vacante" an umbrella is used in the Vaticans Cardinal-camerlengo's heraldric device. Because the umbrella was often painted on the flag people started to call the flag after the illustration.
Sources: 
*"Heraldry in the Catholic Church" by Bisshop Bruno Bernard Heim 1978 (page 55)
*"Heraldry" Dr. Ottfried Neubecker 1976 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robert Prummel (talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for " Gonfalone is not used in the Sede vacante" 

message: I'm surprised this article doesn't mention the Roman vexillum, a very similar kind of banner. I don't know much about these things, but I would imagine the medieval Italian gonfalone would be a direct descendant of the Roman vexillum. Fair statement? Perhaps it came the gonfalone was revived because of Byzantine influence in that period (the labarum / lavaron). Nojamus (talk) 17:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vexillum
Talk:Gonfaloniere of Justice

message: "As Gonfaloniere di Giustizia he was the temporary standard-bearer of the Republic of Florence and custodian of the city's banner, which was displayed from the yardarm of a portable cross."
The use of the term 'yardarm' does not appear to be consistent with the definition given in Wiktionary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZFT (talk • contribs) 03:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong use of the word 'yardarm'?
Talk:Funerary hatchment

message: This hatchment shows arms of a deceased person with higher rank and wider fame than any other on the page, so it made sense to add identification, including Wikipedia link.
For good reasons related to Wikipedia style, the target page is named "Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon".   Even so, she was universally known at her death as Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.
According to the article, hatchments are little-used today, but I resisted the temptation to note that this is a "rare modern example".Monomoit (talk) 18:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Queen Mother's Hatchment
Talk:Herald

message: In antique eras, soldiers wore a flag to show their party to Combatants. We should mention that... -- Bapho 23:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: I have removed this whole section.  It had nothing to do with heralds at arms; the heralds of Valdemar and various comic book references are ones that use the word "herald", but are not heraldic officers responsible for issuance and regulation of armorial bearings (coats of arms.)
Chevalier3 (talk) 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Heralds in Fiction

message: There was a line here that the name Harold is derived from the name of the office.  I deleted it.  The name is derived from the Anglo-Saxon Hereweald, meaning 'army-leader'.  See http://www.behindthename.com/name/harold. CsikosLo (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Name 'Harold' Derived from the Office?  Nope. 

message: Don't Heralds, at least in the UK, carry white sticks (not sure what they are called) should this be mentioned? Does anyone know what they are called?
rfwebster (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Sticks 
Talk:George White (British Army officer)

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 15:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 
Talk:The Heraldry Society

message: As the The Heraldry Society (New Zealand Branch) is a branch of the original Heraldry Society, I think that it ought to be merged into the main article for the Heraldry Society. Just as the various branches of the Royal Heraldry Society of Canada do not have their own pages, neither should this branch. If there are no objections, I would gladly do the merging work.--dave-- 20:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *If this is the case, you can edit the article at The Heraldry Society (New Zealand Branch) to reflect the fact that it is a separate group. Currently it is simply a redirect to The Heraldry Society. In the meantime, it might be time to change the name of the Society for good to reflect the separation.--Eva bd 21:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Alci12, I think it's good to remove most of that information. The repitition of the HS (NZ) info in completely unnecessary. The sentence about the legacy of the heraldry society looks good to me, though. I think that it ought to stay to show that the Heraldry Society has had an influence beyond just England.--Eva bd 14:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Add back as you think best I added links to all the netries I removed at the bottom of the article. I just felt on reading the article that it looked like it had been written before the seperate articles so it ended up containing infomation that had a proper home elsewhere. Alci12 15:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Zealand Branch Merge 

message: Not to knock heraldry, but I don't see how this is front page material.  can we get something more topical?  What about an article on Fiji?  I mean, they're in the middle an alleged coup... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.89.71.11 (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Can you clarify your concern?--Eva bd 15:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not worth a Front Page placement
Talk:Belfast High School

message: it needs an infobox and some editing of the layout. it looks a mess :/ Leiam149 16:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: So much talent ... a quite important school ... but only a start ... no infobox... pics? Tell us much more about this place. 150 years of history and no alumni. Reads like a brochure... this should be an objective view. One of the problems is lack of references. Victuallers 11:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  assess 

message: * Old post, but I agree. I've tidied the current content and added an infobox and a logo (in the absence of a photo), but the vast majority of content is purely prospectus gumph and does not denote notability. Judging by the age of the school and some of the onsite features (an animal house??) there is the potential for a very good article if any material can be sourced (and referenced!) Fattonyni (talk) 02:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  like this 
Talk:Katherine Knight

message: the link  "Australian crime Documentary Beyond The Darkland aired an episode on Katherine Knight on 9 June 2009- link to the full episode"  is pointing to MegaUpload closed site.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiko 64 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing (or redirecting) the documentary link

message: Nowhere does the article say she was a cannibal. In fact, it says "...she was preparing to serve his body parts to his children. A third meal was thrown on the back lawn for unknown reasons and it is speculated Knight had attempted to eat it but could not...". She isn't a cannibal if she didn't eat human flesh and nowhere does the article say evidence was presented to the court that she did so.
But it did say she *attempted* to eat his body, which means she had some sort of cannibal tendencies. Locopocohontas (talk) 03:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with the OP here. Unless someone has something to add indicating she DID eat him, I will remove. Doctorhawkes (talk) 03:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Why does she have the Australian cannibals category?
Talk:King of arms

message: Do the Activities of Fantasy / Theatre / Reenactment Groups Fairly Fall Under the Scope of This Article?
I say nay. The scope of this piece is actually existing and historical systems of heraldry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.10.36.231 (talk) 10:26, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this group use title King of Arms? Yes. Is this notable? Yes. So, it can be included.--Yopie (talk) 17:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

text: An includible fact should be not only notable, but also relevant. The SCA item does not pass the test. Heraldry, as Yopie should know, is derived through the grace of a monarch. Play acting does not fall within the category of actual Heraldry. Kindly do not revert my edits unless or until consensus develops around another viewpoint.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.10.36.231 (talk) 18:46, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

message: It has no arches, and therefore I would assume it would be considered a coronet, but it's referred to in the caption as "crown".  Is there some unique precedent for it being call a crown nonetheless?  If that's the case then there should be some brief explanation included. `Trilobright (talk) 11:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crown or coronet?
Talk:List of secondary schools in Northern Ireland

message: Lists are a good source of information. However they may be dated and could be replaced by categories.
Victuallers 08:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not sure if such lists are a good idea; however I did update it by rv closed schools as per NI Direct - schools opening, closing and amalgamating.Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 01:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Schools List

message: ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.52.163.66 (talk) 15:48, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antrim? 
Talk:The Lion and the Unicorn

message: To be more accurate, it seems more like 90% horse and 10% lion, since the only lion like trait it has is its tail, and even THAT was made into that of a horse. Booger-mike (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicorn lion percentage 

message: Hzhzhz 222.152.187.89 (talk) 08:47, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: Were do come from Lion 222.152.187.89 (talk) 08:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  English
Talk:Livery collar

message: Shouldn't the collar of the orders of chivalry be discussed in a separate article? It is a bitt odd to find them here. They are a class of their own and can not be compared to the livery collar of a mayor.
On the Dutch Wiki they have got a separate article with several illustrations.. Robert Prummel 14:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's enough info to make a separate article, that would be great!  Do you want to do it? - PKM 15:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  a separate article? 

message: Can anyone please cite official authority for the unusual description as "collar of Esses"?  
I have never seen it historically referred to otherwise than as "Collar of SS"  Jezza (talk) 17:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually (excuse my typing) it seems pretty common, and used by the most recent books, plus Britannica. "collar of S.S." seems the alternative.  Johnbod (talk) 19:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collar of SS
Talk:Jockey-Club de Paris

message: Wetman, do you think "the most sportifs gentlemen of tout-Paris" is really needed? Can't we say as much in English? --Ghirla -трёп- 11:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...the still-born issue of a weak moment... Hey, Andrey, you didn't catch my "Fourth Republic" blunder!--Wetman 11:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Private officer of arms

message: This article would improve much if it included descriptions of the Private officers of arms current situation.
* Which such offices are still in use?
* Who appoints them?
* What are their tasks in a day and age when geneaology is carried out by DNA samples and computer research, and heraldry is a quaint relic of times past?
* What sources are their to support their modern purpose and situation?
It would also help if it expanded beyond Scotland, or clarified that the use is/was particular to that nation.
If you are not able to edit the article yourself, maybe you can give pointers on sources or how to start? Thanks in advance! OJH (talk) 12:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is their purpose and situation today?
Talk:Public Register of All Arms and Bearings in Scotland

message: Our article says:
However, I've been all over that website and other NRS pages pertaining to the Public Register, and there seems to be no extant online-search option, only information that one can book an appointment at the ScotlandsPeople Centre to search the digitised archive in person .  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:00, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The search option is still there, it's just difficult to find (and you need to make an account in order to use it). I've edited the article to include a direct link. Zacwill (talk) 04:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Greatly improves the article, and it was a personal help to me as well, for a family-history project.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:10, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online search no longer available?
Talk:Georges Dumézil

message: It seems odd, in view of the fact that three sources were already appended to the article, that a "no sources" tag should have been applied by User:Mgekelly, 26 June 2006. One is a website entirely devoted to Dumézil; another is a link to the biography in the Académie française site. Were these not liked? was it because they are written in French, do you suppose? --Wetman 11:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the problem is that they are titled "external links" rather than "online references". Just change the heading and you have a properly sourced article. That's one thing that radical referentionists fail to take into account. --Ghirla -трёп- 12:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why "no sources"?
Talk:Marchmont Herald

message: What about him? His article clearly states that he was Falkland Pursuivant Extraordinary during the period in question, and mentions absolutely nothing about the office of Marchmont Herald. It looks to me that this list is mistaken (as well as the succession box of James Grant). Waltham, The Duke of 15:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Iain Moncreiffe of that Ilk]]
Talk:Falkland Pursuivant

message: As Iain Moncreiffe left the office some years before succeeding as Baronet and Chief, perhaps his arms as cadet (chief indented, i think) ought to be shown here. —Tamfang (talk) 02:28, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moncreiffe
Talk:Procurator fiscal

message: What i wonder is the origin of the term "Procurator" and why "fiscal" - where there procurators of non fiscal legal activities? Tim bates 11:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening heading

message: I am interested to know whether it really is meant to be written as "Procurator Fiscal", rather than "procurator fiscal". The Baroness of Morden (talk) 12:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 