Talk:Midna/Archive 1

message: I have a picture of Midna saved into my file and i can't seem to be able to upload it so it can be seen by the general public (thank goodness for Page Preveiw)
can i just send the image to somebody, its one of the most popular photos of Midna
Bearflip 03:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Header Photo 

message: Why is this still a stub?  Surely it should be sort of around C- or B-class? --Arkracer 17:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: STUB

message: Does anybody know who the voice actress of Midna is?
:i can't believe i'm responding to this, but you're kidding, right? HiS oWn 05:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: actually, now that I think about it, could be valid. I'll look into it. HiS oWn 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Akiko Kawamoto, according to the game's entry in the Japanese Wikipedia (under the characters section). I've added this to the article on Midna. Tony Myers 05:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice Actress 

message: Can anyone confirm this?  Its stated in zelda's article she is midna. 
: I'm halfway through the game, and all signs point to NO on that one. While a connection between Midna and Zelda is made (after the third dungeon) that could be somewhat construed as such a thing, they are still very much two separate entities. Actually, I read the info in the spoiler area of this article a couple dungeons ago, and so far everything seems to be correct, so the whole thing is likely valid. --Kaleb.G 03:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I beat the game on Saturday: the answer is a straight no. SixteenBitJorge 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midna is zelda? 

message: Personally, I don't see any resemblance between Midna's helm and Majora's Mask...anyone else think this should be taken out?
-Nor do I, but I do note the surprising resemblance Midna has to Veran, I would definitely leave that in.
Yeah Midna Bears a resemblance to Veran Someone should put a picture of Veran up right next to a picture of Midna for a comparison. I would do it but I don't know how to put pictures up.Hero Of Hyrule 16:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the stuff about Majora's Mask because there's no citation and simply comparing the two can tell you it's wrong. The comparison to Veran seems valid. Anyone think it's worth adding a note that there seems to be a resemblance between Onox and Zant as well? It's noted on Zant's page and it's an interesting coincidence but I can't see any real reason for it. Corbo 14:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal. The same user also addded that info to the Majora article as well. --69.156.206.239 05:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Why is that?
The entire story section is a spoiler fest. So why are you REMOVING IT, I don't get it. The story info is a spoiler already. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.44.86.202 (talk) 04:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People don't need to read the section if they don't want to. But it's kind of hard to not see a picture. ~ Just a Lazy Guest —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.82.238 (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it is not. These discussions are a few weeks old, mine is not.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: See my discussion below.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of Midna's true form pic 

message: I've just combined all the talk regarding the Midna's true form and spoilers under its own subsection so its easier to follow. I'll put myself down for agreement with Ryūlóng. The image should be included in the article as it is important information regarding the character. The spoiler tag is already there so readers have been forewarned of spoilers. And furthermore, according to :Wikipedia:Spoiler warning#Unacceptable alternatives, it has already been considered that if readers really do not want to be spoiled, then they would have disabled images from being loaded on their browser, QED. --Paultran 14:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay not so QED -_-. The Wikipedia guidelines doesn't say anything about images and spoilers. Still nevertheless, imo the image should stay up. We could improve this page with more information and push the image further down so its 'better' for readers who don't want to be spoiled. Removing informative images just because it would spoil the story for some readers would be worse for Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. --Paultran 14:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a similar dispute like this with Zant's article. I would put up a picture of his unmasked form... then some loop would come along and take it down. I'm downright confused.SilentWind 12:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The simple thing is that you put it back on and contact the person on his/her talk page about what they did and how you disagree.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collating and summary 

message: People that have played Twilight Princess know that Midna's hair acts as a second hand. It zaps, grabs, and otherwise works as a normal hand(her *real* hands are tiny and near uselessness).
So should the bit about her hair be brought into this? Or is it too trivial a detail? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sorani172 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume that the flexibility of her hair is due to the power of the Fused Shadow on her head, so it would be notable that she can use its power throughout the game. And I was wondering if maybe it would be possible to get a picture of one of the (very brief) helmet-less pictures of imp-Midna, for interest value.
Um... I believe that her "hair" (as you described it) is a hand that is coming out of her head. BassxForte 03:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midna's Hair 

message: I added a spoiler tag, after my girlfriend (who is still playing the game) saw midna's true form without warning. :) Lordofchaosiori 05:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler Tag

message: I read in the guidelines that message board links are not recommended/approved on Wiki pages... Just wondering if possibly an exception could be made in this case. The forum I'll link to has many members who are "Midna Experts", you might say. We also would like an easy link for people to use to find in-depth information and discussion because Google doesn't show the site very easily for some reason.
If the general consensus is 'no', well, I'm not gonna argue. I can see how this could construe advertising and I hate it when people advertise on Wikipedia.
Here's the URL.
http://midna.kg13.com/forum/index.php
BTW, someone HAD been putting the link up and then it was deleted, about 4 times... Not sure why they continued to do so without asking first. It was not me or anyone I know, however.
EDIT: just noticed that the link is on there again..... did someone already approve it? or is that same person (or a different one) trying to circumvent the rules again...?
Rosseloh 17:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  We don't need that link here. What more information is there that isn't already covered in the game? That's right: nothing. Wikipedian06 10:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think, a deeper source for getting Char Related Infos will be useful. Because there is a lack of an official Nintendo Page relating this Entity (Midna), the Forum will be fine (just my 2 Cents) - Markus Quatember —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.132.5.204 (talk) 10:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A forum is not a source for any useful information here, especially one on a single character from a single game.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, there's an official site that describes her. There's also the game, and soon enough the Encyclopedia will have info on her. Forums are fanmade, and not at all acceptable, unless it's "external links".KrytenKoro 05:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midna Fan Forum 

message: T think that picture of Midna's actual form should be changed, it only shows us her face, is their a picture that shows more of her body at once? BassxForte 03:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midna's true apperance 

message: I took a picture of the back of midna's helmet and it looks a lot like the eye part of the Sheikah symbol. Give me a few days and I'll upload it.
72.134.69.228 05:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back of Midna's helmet 

message: I have contributed by revising a few things such as gameplay and rearranging the articles. I hope you like what I've done. --74.194.118.12 10:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: My contributions

message: In a recent interview with Game Informer Online, Eiji Aonuma said, "Because of the way Twilight Princess ended, I don't see her making a reappearance, but who knows. If we hear enough voices for her to come back, how can we not?"
elaborate later, right now it just seems like its a question on the main page. as a temporary fix, i removed it and added it here, but later when more solid evidence comes to light; not some speculation. Vicgp3 05:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a problem with the title of the section, why not just change it? What Aonuma said in the interview is certainly relevant. As he said, the ending makes her reappearance unlikely, but he's open to the idea, and that needs to be included in the article. The information itself isn't speculation. The POV is in the title. Schrödinger 05:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if she's going to appear in the next future Zelda game, but I don't know if she's going to be in SSBB or not. ~ Girla PurpleHeart 21:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A future for Midna? (moved from the artcle) 

message: Could someone move that to the trivia section? I feel that it belongs there.
00:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  early design vs. new design 

message: The image used for Midna's true form is hideous and blurry. Every time a better image is added (such as my version) it gets reverted. Why do we insist on keeping the same image? --Guess Who 00:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably cause people always complain about spoilers, but seriously post your version it looks better and it has more detail, the spoiler tag isn't there for nothing. -DDF 02:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is ridiculous. 

message: I don't want to make an edit without knowing I'm right, so here's a question. This article says that Midna wasn't killed by Ganondorf and she survived. I could be wrong here, but didn't she in fact die? If I remember correctly, the Light Spirits revived her. - 88.196.24.133 17:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen this come up on the Ganon talk page and Twilight Princess talk page, and now it's beginning on this page.  It has to do with Ganon and Zant, and how their life forces are connected.  There are actually three schools of thought on this.  Whoever posted the previous unsigned entry believes that Zant and Ganondorf depend on each other for life, and if one dies, the other dies.  This theory often goes with the claim that Zant snapped his own neck to kill Ganondorf.  Another theory says that Zant depends on Ganon for life, but Ganon doesn't require Zant, at least not after he is recharged.  This theory is often suported by Zant's claim that he is immortal as long as Ganon is alive.  The third theory, which I go with, is that there is no life force link between them.  Ganon used Zant to recharge, then severed any such links to avoid problems like those mentioned in the first theory.  This is also supported by Zant's claim that he is immortal, but is understood to say that as long as Ganon is alive, he will ressurect his followers, though a character analysis of Ganon says that he probably would not.  These are the theories, that no one reads a similar statement and says, "huh?"  By the way, I believe that the consensus on the Ganon and Twilight Princess talk pages was that reference to these theories is not allowed, since consensus on which theory is right seems imposible to get, plus it often results in Original Research. Bucky 22:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: One of the things I've learned here is that things are decided by a consensus of several people on Wikipedia rather than democratic vote or decision by just one person.  That's what I've learned to look for when there is a dispute. Bucky 21:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS - My favorite word is actually chicken.  It's so fun to say. Bucky 21:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Ahh, Touche. Bucky 21:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midna survived? 

message: The old one was removed because it "lacked sources" (pbbt... and I speak of the one at the top of the page), so could someone re-upload it to ImageShack and link to it from here. Thanks. Deku-Scrub 21:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture pliz! 

message: It's nice that we have a lead picture again and all, but this seems inappropriate for a lead picture, and I don't have any spoiler concerns.  She looks like this for a grand total of five minutes in the entire game, so wouldn't it be more appropriate to have a shot of her as an imp for the lead picture?  Just a thought. Bucky 05:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Picture 

message: Sorry guys, but I'm quite suprised that this article is B-rated. It does not give a synopsis of the story but rather a point-by-point recount as well as containing far too much minutiae. It's written in "In-Universe" too, see WP:WAF. Ashnard Talk 18:45, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs some work