Talk:Hermit

message: I removed the circular wiki on anchorite, as it simply rdirected to this page.  If someone wants to help define the distinctions on this page, that would be great.  JHCC 14:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It ought to be kept, because it is a subject it its own right, cf. the medieval anchoresses who lived in bricked up cells adjoining a church with just a small opening to listen to Holy Mass and receive Holy Communion. Someone may get round to writing it up. 20:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anchorite 

message: I have a strong feeling that the Greek philosopher Heraclitus was not only a hermit, but a very influential pre-Socratic philosopher. Being my favorite western philosopher, I probably couldn't describe him with NPOV, but I think someone should. Just a thought. Rokenrol 20:45, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heraclitus 

message: Does anyone agree with me that Thoreau should be mentioned? I didn't see him in there. He wasn't entirely a hermit or ascetic but he was deffinitally kind of secluded and obstained from alot of things, such as consumerism and all that nifty stuff... I mean c'mon, he lived in the woods in a cabin he made himself and grew beans all year round. Sounds kinda hermit-ish if you ask me!
Perhaps sparked by Thoureau, it was modish in the 1800s among landed New Englanders to have a hermit living on their estate.  Somebody might want to explore that topic.  -KJJ
* I don't think Thoreau should be here.  He lived along the main path to Walden Pond, had many visitors from the path, went into town often to visit with friends, and ate at his mother's house on the weekends.  I don't think this qualifies as a hermit, "a person who lives to some greater or lesser degree in seclusion and/or isolation from society."  I do believe he was an ascetic, but I don't think he belongs here. 70.105.124.205 17:27, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Thoreau? 

message: The present link provides no clue why "Stafford historian James Johnson" merits to be mentioned in this article.
10:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stafford historian James Johnson" 

message: I believe the term, hermit, doesn't apply specifically to religious "loners" (for lack of a better term). I believe the specific word for a religious "loner" is "eremite" . This article should be re-titled "eremite" and linked to a real article on "hermits" in general; or listed in the "hermit" disambiguation article. JimScott (talk) 00:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: After re-reading some of the eremite definitions, I see the word "Christian" coming up a lot. Perhaps we should re-title this article "anchorite"  which seems to have a more generic sense to it with regard to religion; with a section devoted to "eremites" and re-direct "eremite" to this article/section. JimScott (talk) 01:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  hermit vs. eremite 

message: About : I prefer "Latinisation". "Romanisation" is normally used to refer to a mapping merely on the writing system level. "Latinisation", no matter if it's used with proper names or other words, refers to an adaptation on the level of the grammatical form, as for instance from Gr. -itēs to Lat. -ita. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your response. Your answer highlights the inadequacy of the wiki page on "Romanization" (there is no independent page on "Latinisation"). Maybe you could add your distinction to "Romanization". 206.54.220.113 (talk) 01:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latinisation vs. Romanisation 

message: humans are, as I understand it, a social animal/being -there needs to be some interaction with the rest of 'society' -even if it's just a platform to moan about that said society - jung speculated that when a mind was completely isolated then it would compensate for the lack of social stimulus by halucinations which, I suspect, is what happened to these religious types who went off 'in the wilderness' - but I will stand corrected  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetiesthatbind (talk • contribs) 22:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: What?

message: I realize that no one has taken an interest in this page for a long time, so maybe I am writing for the dakinis, but. . . .I have made a few edits to this article and I will make more because I am a religious hermit and nun of the Episcopal Church and have lived the life for 35 years. I also am a Tibetan Buddhist nun of the Nyingmapa tradition who has spent significant time in solitude. I earned my BA in Comparative Religion at Barnard, and did my master's and doctoral work in theology at Notre Dame. Finally, I am a writer of several books and more articles than I can even remember. All that said, my history and $2 will buy me a cup of coffee at the local diner, so don't think this is ego.
I have no religious or--G-d forbid!--denominational ax to grind here; however, IMHO this article is very superficial, pulled from the old (Roman) Catholic Encyclopedia, with few additions of any depth from other editors. The section on the eremitical tradition in Orthodoxy, which is an incredibly rich one, is so sketchy as to be useless. Nothing was included about solitaries in the Anglican Communion. Unconventional contemporary religious hermits of old Celtic and other traditions were also omitted. The few additions of hermits in Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc., were pitiful, and they do not fit any common interreligious understanding of the hermit life, whether spontaneously undertaken or entered into via the authority structure of a religion.
     
I made a decision that, since the original meaning of "hermit" (the life, not the etymological meaning) has always been a spiritual one, it was time to move the secular and comic strip references to the disambiguation page. I wasn't as ruthless as I intend to be, but all of you out there who actually KNOW something about the eremitical milieu, why don't you ADD some useful information?
SisterScrounge (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just for the Record 

message: I don't think you can say that ornamental hermits are just from popular culture. These were people living as hermits, just not religious ones. More information needs to be added about this type of hermit and it won't happen if it is squeezed into another section. 92.20.124.245 (talk) 10:36, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You put the material in the "In other religions" section, where it oes not it.  It's not important enough to have it's own section, so putting it in the "In popular culture" section is the best fit for it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ornamental Hermits 

message: An unnamed hermit of over 500 years old in the mountains of China taught Li Ching-Yuen the art of Baguazhang and a set Qigong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.198.0.142 (talk) 06:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  bullshit? 

message: Sounds like me Lin Rongxiang 14:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: This was addressed in the talk page back in 2011 (see above) but it looks like the article has not been fixed since then. "Hermit" is a generic term, but the Christian examples here are the majority of the article. I'll go ahead and see if the information here can be rearranged to be more balanced, but I suspect we will need to make a new page for Christian hermits. Bagabondo (talk) 05:35, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hermit (Christian) butas aboveyes please. The current  weight and  presents a deeply off portrait of this as part of the human condition, esp. w/r/t both Taoist sages and Confucian officials in China over a span of 3000+ years. Similarly the Indian mystics at least as far back as the Buddha. — LlywelynII 08:30, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imbalance of Christian examples instead of other religions - a new page? 

message: Is it okay to place the link Hikikomori in the see also section? Helper201 (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hikikomori shouldn't be indicated under See also. The article has nothing at all to do with the topic of (pious) hermits as a form of the religious life in different Christian denominations. Furthermore, the introduction of the article describes Hikikomori as "severe social withdrawal" for which there are treatment programs. Pious hermits, on the other hand, are not people with "severe social withdrawal", they choose this way of life for spiritual reasons and of course do not need any treatment.--Medusahead (talk) 08:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it okay to place Hikikomori in the see also section?