Talk:Iglesia ni Cristo/Archive 6

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This archive page covers approximately the dates between 12 August 2005 and 19 August 2005.
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Please add new archivals to Talk:Iglesia ni Cristo/Archive07. Thank you. Theo  (Talk) 10:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

message: Poster using ip 69.231.227.190 removed my edit and claim "Last edit biased towards INC, link irrelevan". Let's discuss it.
Reminder to some users who may be tempted, please see rule on sockpuppets. --Emico 18:58, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism/Hierarchy 

message: Two things arise from User:69.231.208.157's unsigned comment at 13:54, 11 August 2005.  The first is, please would everyone who posts on this (and any other) talk page please sign their contribution.  You can use four tildes (~~~~) and they will be converted when you save the page. The second is, please could everyone complete the Edit Summary box for every edit they make.  The software adds the section heading to reduce some of the work but it is still helpful if you add a brief summary of what you have done and why. —Theo  (Talk) 13:40, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Using edit summaries

message: Can someone explain how the choosing of the executive minister is guided by the Holy Spirit. Is there any information available about the election process of any officer. Sources? Is the expelling of members also guided by the Holy Spirit? If it is, better put it in to make it more NPOV ;-) Coffeemaker 00:00, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Like i said: "I belong to the human race sect". Are you threatening me? Coffeemaker 06:00, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Now why would you think that? All I did is ask you what sect you belong to? So I may better understand your POV. --Emico 06:12, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought you meant my "Personal identity". But surely you meant my "Cultural identity". Question remains why are you hoping I am not hiding it? Should anyone belong to something? Coffeemaker 06:34, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Um, we were talking about sect, remember? Sect is on all of the responses so I don't see how that can be mistaken for personal identity, and now cultural identity. I'm a bit puzzled by your responses.  You display strong opinion against the INC. To me that indicates you have personal religious beliefs that run counter(in your case, in a big way) to what the INC believes. Most sect that contends with the INC have their own doctrines that are controversial. that's what I meant when I said hiding. and of course, sockpuppeting, which I raised a few days before. --Emico 06:57, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Emico, tell us now, does your IP range start with the number 66.xxx.xx or not? BTW, I can see how he would feel threatened after  and . --Ironbrew 07:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I'll tell you mind if you tell me yours first. Oh yes. I caught a lie on a blog post. Is that why he should feel threathened? Read the blog, the details are all there. Now I understand. Thanks. --Emico 07:53, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, you impersonated another's identity to defame him and tried to attain the identities of webmasters who run forums critical of the INC. What were you planning to do if you were able to attain them? I'm not particularly interested in knowing your IP, but let's keep in mind that if necessary, Wikipedia can link IPs to usernames. BTW: How's the ML320 working out for you? --Ironbrew 08:08, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Election of leaders guided by the Holy Spirit 

message: To Coffeemaker, can you explain what you mean by saying the forum is "exposing the INC bible lessons."? --Emico 04:33, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exposing? How? 

message: I added this phrase: "The INC also believes that its administration, through prophecy, has the exclusive right to vicariously carry out God's plans during these times." Emico then deleted it claiming it was "hostile." I don't see which part of it is hostile as all I am doing is stating their belief as NPOV as I possibly can. I understand that Emico has a record of hostility towards those who do not agree with his viewpoint and AFAIK, it seems that he cannot separate one person's opinion from their edits. He has even readded the link to his personal blog after Theo spoke out on the illegitimacy of blogs at Wikipedia and has taken it upon himself to remove my edits made in the past day. I would like to hear Theo and Leon's take on this.--Ironbrew 18:04, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit made to Structure of the INC 

message: Emico says that the disclaimer in the ==External links== section is inadequate.  Please explain your concerns here and we can try to address them. —Theo  (Talk) 16:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to hear Emico's specific gripe with the disclaimer in the links section, because Emico's last edit to the disclaimer was definitely unfair and POV against those who disagree with the INC, especially with this phrase "retaliation specially from those who have personal gripes with the INC" It's a dangerous accusation and borders on personal opinion. --Ironbrew 21:35, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Disclaimer