Talk:Germany/Archive 1

message: I started editing the history section, and then I got to the part about Bismarck and the unification of the Second Empire.  The pace of the text changes dramatically here.  Before I delete a lot of stuff that is true and that is learned in German history courses, I thought maybe it would be good to discuss what is German history, what is Prussian history, and whether the Bismarckian era is so much more important to German history than the Metternichian (Metternich is not mentioned at all, nor is Marx)--and if we go into the history of Prussia, should we not also include the internal politics of the Kingdom of Württemberg, the development of the first constitution of Nassau, etc?  I think a lot of this should be moved to other articles and the "Germany" article should present more of a summary.  I just don't know where (or how) to move it... --Bhuck 10:15, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Germany's population number in the template:germany infobox appears to be set too low. According to the German Federal Statistical Office, Germany's population at the end of December 2003 was 82,531,700 - not 82,495,000 . The English site of the Federal Statistical Office is definitely worth checking from time to time. Heimdal 13:16, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a more detailed table here:  (same source) - it shows that there are more Brits and Portuguese in Germany than Macedonians, for example. The current figures in the article seem to come from the table mentioned by the last poster. Saintswithin 18:51, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics

message: The following was inserted by http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=209.98.197.185 together with some other material of a less problematic nature:
:The German inhabitants, who before the war had numbered 10 million, were expropriated and expelled. About 2 million residents of these areas lost their lives in the war and expulsions, which were essentially completed in 1949.
Kosebamse 17:37, 19 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversial section

message: While reading about Magellan's first voyage, the names of the first 18 seamen to circumnavigate the globe were listed. On that list, Hans of Aachen leapt out at me. So I thought others might be interested that seamen of many nationalities participated in the voyage. Thus the edit which has since been reverted. I have no problem with this, but I thought this knowledge would edify others. 169.207.86.185 21:49, 18 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellaneous

message: I think it is not appropriate to state that German Euro coins are a currency in Germany. If we do so - in order to be consequent - we have to put in all other national variants of the Euro coins as well (since those are "legal tender" in Germany as well). Additionally there is a difference between currency and legal tender, thus the Euro is the sole currency of Germany. Gugganij 20:08, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: A currency called "German Eurocoins"?

message: I removed the following footnote from the table: The enclave town of Büsingen am Hochrhein uses the Swiss franc as currency. Reasons:
#One have to distinguish between currency, legal tender and just the general acceptance of money without a legal basis.
##The only currency in whole of Germany is the euro.
##Legal tender are Euro banknotes and Eurocoins of all countries, which are authorised to mint them.
#According to the official homepage of Büsingen () Swiss francs are neither the official currency nor legal tender in this district. Swiss francs are widely accepted though (according to the homepage there are much more Swiss francs in circulation than Euros), but that fact does not have any legal basis (in contrary to Swiss francs one can insist to pay a restaurant bill in Büsingen with Euro)
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According to grenzen.150m.com/buesingenGB.htm :
"[...] as Büsingen is incorporated into the Swiss customs territory, meaning that also the official currency is the Swiss Frank, however Büsingen is political and administration-wise German. (Kreis Konstanz)."
Either this page is wrong, or Büsingen official website is not accurate.
Gibt es Jemand aus Büsingen bei Wikipedia?
TheWikipedian
:grenzen.150m.com seems to me to be a private page. Since the conclusion that Swiss Francs is the official currency might easily be drawn just by visiting Büsingen and noting that the majority of money in ciruclation are Swiss Francs, that conclusion does not have to be true. I think the information of the official website of Büsingen is more reliable. By the way, being part of a customs territory does not automatically imply that there is also one currency (e.g. The EU is a customs union with different currencies). Gugganij 09:44, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: de:Büsingen am Hochrhein says, that the Euro is the official currency and has to be used. But, usually the Swiss Franc is used. Even the local administration uses it for internal organisations. Before, the D-Mark was the official currency, but often the Büsingers didn't want to take the Mark. Stern 14:34, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Swiss francs the currency in Büsingen?