Talk:State of emergency

message: In Spanish, I know of estado de emergencia, estado de excepción, estado de sitio, and estado de guerra (emergency, exception, siege and war). 
I am not an expert in (constitutional) law and I don't know the usage in English, so it would be very helpful if someone who is/knows writes stubs on all of these topics. About half of the examples don't really belong in state of emergency, because they involved political conflict and restrictions of civil liberties, so they should be moved to the other articles once they are created. At least that is according to my understanding of the terms in Spanish.
:I get the impression that SoEs in Spain are much more, for lack of a better word, formalized then in the US (Where I have most of my knowledge on this subject). eg. as far as I know, there's just "State of Emergency", there aren't different levels and the constitution says nothing about it (Unless you count Article I, Section 9). I'm interested in hearing more of your thoughts. Thanx 68.39.174.150 03:59, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's my State's info on the subject . Thanx 68.39.174.150 03:59, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old discussion

message: The lists of examples at the end of the article have the titles "active in <YEAR>". Shouldn't it be "declared in"? For example, isn't Ethiopia in a State of Emergency still now in 2022?  -- Marshagreen   — Preceding undated comment added 11:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  change "active in" in examples to "declared in" 

message: Article 16 of the constitution is not about the state of emergency (état d'urgence in French) but about full powers to the President (les pleins pouvoirs). That's why I reverted the part of the article about France. Note that state of emergency shall not be confused in French Law with state of siege (état de siège), ruled by an other article of the constitution.
Revas 19:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, but maybe the material you cut out could be put elsewhere? dab (ᛏ) 12:47, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it could be inclued in an article about les exeptions au principe de légalité but I have no idea of how we call it in English (things related to all the special states where due process and legality are not guaranted as usual under French Law).--Revas 21:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

text: What about... state of emergency? Tazmaniacs 12:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that state of siege and others similar articles redirect here. Tazmaniacs 12:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note also that under the very general definition provided by the article, a state of emergency is any case where fundamental liberties may be suspended, thus including both état d'urgence and état de siège. Tazmaniacs 13:00, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About France 

message: I've deleted the specific examples from the second paragraph for four reasons.
# It's not usual to put such specific detail into an introduction. Even if you give examples, it will be in a form like: "Jurisdictions frequently limit the powers that may be invoked (e.g., New York State) or forbid modifying the law or constitution (e.g., Germany) during the state of emergency..." You wouldn't typically provide the actual statute.
# The examples provided are very specific - far more than an encylopaedia requires.
# A spelling error (Atricle) makes the examples somewhat suspect (though I am not saying they're wrong - I'm just saying they're superfluous, and not worth checking).
# They're too localised for the intro (i.e., need for world view).
El T 06:39, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't use specific examples in the opening 

message: The following I'm copying from "Talk:State of Emergency" that pertain to this article:
Actually no....
:Depending on the needs of that emergency, people may be arrested without cause, private places may be searched without warrant, or private property may be seized without immediate compensation or a chance to prior appeal.
:The courts in the United States are often very lenient in allowing almost any action to be taken in the case of such a declared emergency.
No.  American law generally doesn't allow for these things even with a declaration of emergency.
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Why capital letters, rather than lower-case state of emergency? Michael Hardy 23:28 26 May 2003 (UTC)
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Okay, I want to know your source for this, because every court case I ever read makes exceptions for all kinds of things because of it is necessitated by an emergency. So, I am just taking out any reference until you give some sort of cite. I don't have the time to actually cite things. Are you a lawyer? PhatJew
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I looked up habeas corpus and it discusses the suspension of rights during an emergency. So, I am putting the stuff about suspension of constitutional rights back in. PhatJew
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End of my copying. Cburnett 17:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  From Talk:State of Emergency 

message: I added the Habeas Corpus information direct from the Analysis and Interpretation of the Constitution; Annotations of Cases Decided by the Supreme Court of the United States; Senate Document No. 108-17; 2002 Edition: Cases Decided to June 28, 2002.
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 08:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suspension of Habeas Corpus

message: Is a state of exception a synonym for state of emergency?  Since "State of exception" redirects to this article then either it should be explained that it is a synonym for "state of emergency" or explain the difference between the two concepts. --Cab88 06:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  State of exception vs. state of emergency 

message: France needs to be updated now that the state of emergency has ended. It currently says due to end in february 2005, which has passed. 
UK is a bit of a stub. Can someone update it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.66.110.234 (talk) 19:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  France and UK need updating 

message: It seems to me that the individual states should have their own articles. Florida has a Florida Division of Emergency Management but this is through the eyes of enforcement rather than a discussion of what is given up, taken over, superceded, and why (if germane). This should probably "blend in" to Emergency Management/Homeland Security or complement it, but it is different and different for each state. Normally the state article would refer to this one with core information. It might be simpler if the US section were spun off (forked) if this takes place. Otherwise it gets confusing since other countries employ the word "state." Student7 (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: States

message: After creating the article, Emergency rule, I realised that it is essentially, if not entirely the same as State of emergency. For this reason, I am now redirecting Emergency rule here. --Anthony5429 20:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emergency rule 

message: In the section about Australia, only 1 state out of 7 is discussed. There is almost no information about the federal government's rights either. This should be changed.Nathan.tang (talk) 11:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor Information

message: Excuse me, but the “state of tension”in Germany is not applied in case of uprisings as stated in the article. As a mater of fact there aren't any arrangements in germane constitution that refer explicit to the case of uprisings and I doubt that any measurements of the army to put down uprisings would be legal – even under martial law.
Nevertheless germane constitution allows parliament to declare “state of tension” if there are hints that the FRG might become the matter of an aggression. In this case the government is allowed to apply laws (only with acceptance of parliament) which otherwise aren't operative. These laws enable the Army to prepare to defend the country. Parliament only can declare “state of defence” if it has declared “state of tension” before. So one might consider “state of tension” to be the pre-stage to “stage of war”. 
So I deleted the comment that referred to uprisings.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.0.76.136 (talk) 20:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uprising - Germany - State of Tension 

message: The Reichstag Fire Decree did not suspend the entire Weimar Constitution, but only some of its articles (freedom of speach, freedom of press, etc.). --Harald Meier (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Weimar Germany/Third Reich

message: Sections of this article for example Canada have a tone that are hostile towards the nations emergency acts. 99.224.94.158 (talk) 19:04, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: "In State of Exception (2005), Giorgio Agamben criticized this idea, arguing that the mechanism of the state of emergency deprives certain people of their civil and political rights, producing his interpretation of homo sacer."
This is a total misreading of Agamben's book. Agamben doesn't "criticize" Schmitt's idea -- the book is a DEFENSE of Schmitt's idea as a theory of Western politics and a call for developing a radically new politics. Furthermore, Agamben doesn't "argue" that the state of exception "deprives certain people of their civil and political rights;" a state of exception is DEFINED as the suspension of civil and political rights -- Agamben believes that, in the contemporary West, this doesn't just apply to "certain people" but to all people at all times.
The following would be an improvement:
"In State of Exception (2005), Giorgio Agamben developed this idea further, arguing that the mechanism of the state of exception today deprives all people of their civil and political rights, producing his interpretation of homo sacer."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.62.59 (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agamben 

message: Syria is not mentioned in this article...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.94.245.160 (talk) 16:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syria missing? 

message: The second declaration of a national emergency in Ireland occurred in 1976, not 1972, and was as a result of the assassination of the British ambassador.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.28.178.10 (talk) 14:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 2nd emergency in Ireland

message: Referring to a federal emergency as a "state of emergency" is common among those making dire claims about US policy, but seems quite scarce in legal practice. In IEEPA orders for example, the President finds that a threat exists and declares "an emergency to deal with that threat." If US legal instruments do not declare "states of emergency" then neither should the phrase be used in the US section of this article.
Specifically, any claim added to the article to the effect that "the US is in a state of emergency" based on some executive order the editor dug up should be removed ASAP. Such an edit does not prove any sudden change in how the government operates; rather, it proves the editor's naivete about how the government has operated over the course of its history. 50.185.134.48 (talk) 05:32, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "I hereby declare a national emergency"-Trump Endercase (talk) 08:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

text: I believe the two distinct things were being confused.  See Wiktionary, "state" (noun) versus "State".  The article title or the condition of the US government might be a state of emergency; whereas a State might have an emergency.  Welcome to the confusing English language.  74.104.188.4 (talk) 17:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Emergency in the US federal government is not a "state"

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message: It appears the opening paragraph has been maliciously modified. William von Zehle (talk) 06:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the notification, . Someone has reverted the changes. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  First paragraph 

message: The Examples section is growing way too long, and US-centric. I propose a separate list article, if people want to list each individual country and state's declarations. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The list now terminates at the date it was declared a state of emergency for the entire country.  This is still on the long-ish side, but isn't too unreasonable.  I do notice a similar issue has arisen for other countries, all the provinces of Canada are individually listed.  Might be worthwhile splitting the list into a separate COVID-19 article, and include fewer dates from the COVID-19 saga.  Rate me unsure, though Canada needs to be cleaned up.  74.104.188.4 (talk) 04:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Split article?