Talk:Olympic flame

message: There were almost 50 edits in the last 2 days often insert false information. Many edits were from IPs and possibly related regarding protest concerning Tibet and the games in China. So this this article needs to be proof read once the dust has settled and recent edition should be read with some skepticism.--Kmhkmh (talk) 11:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well i would support that. However i just came across it by change. I don't know whether anybody was currently observing or maintaining the article--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: manipulations

message: For example, if it had to cross the english channel, did a swimmer ever stroke with one hand and keep the torch up with the other? This would seem to me to be the true spirit of the Olympics. I just saw a news cast where the torch was brought via a jumbo jet to the UK. I really hate the modern Olympics. Needs an incredible revamp.
-G
Likewise, I was wondering if it was ever a true, continuous foot relay from Athens to Host City X, as opposed to Athens => get on a plane => run around in Buenos Aires => get on a boat => run a few miles in Seattle => get on a plane, etc.  There's not much history about the older relays, aside from the Nazi heritage...
64.178.41.22 (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Was a torch relay EVER solely done by human power?

message: Am currently laying down tracks for a spoken version of this article, and gaining new appreciation for Olympic commentators who have to pronounce these names under pressure during events - yeesh!
Potteryfreak 23:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoken Wiki 

message: I want to write something regarding the current negotiations regarding the Beijing torch going to the island of Taiwan. Do you guys think it's ok to place it in this article?ValerioC 02:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Nicolasdz (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: No. It can be put into a seperate article. Since it has little to do with the actual torch, but rather a political issue. --142.150.139.64 (talk) 17:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

text: It seems to have everything to do with the torch; specifically the path of the torch and the political considerations that have gone into it. By the way, why was the section marked as non-neutral? I don't see any critique of its neutrality, and don't see anything in the text that looks non-neutral. Prothonotar (talk) 05:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

text: To the previous commenter, 'Republic of China' is the self-given name of the Taiwanese government: Republic of China. Not to be confused with the People's Republic of China, which is the mainland government. Prothonotar (talk) 05:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008 Taiwan Torch problem

message: The article doesn't specify where the torch goes after the games are over. The reason I'm asking this is because the Ripley's Believe It Or Not! museum in Manhattan has a display of all of the torches from the last 40 years or so. I can only assume that they are replicas I find that having at least the last twenty torches in one spot would be odd. If someone could find out whether it they are real or replicas, please let me know via my talk page, add add to the article if they do happen to be real. Thanks. Socby19 (talk) 04:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The physical torch(es) is/are where? 

message: Is it by the sun.? or some eternal flame on mount olympus.?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.108.73.47 (talk) 11:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is it lit..? 

message: As per article:
:When the Olympic flame came to the Panathinaiko Stadium, stadium of the 1896 Summer Olympics, to start the global torch relay, the night was very windy and the torch, lit by the Athens 2004 Organizing Committee Gianna Angelopoulos-Daskalaki, blew out due to the wind, but was re-lit from the back up flame taken from the original ceremonial flame at Olympia. This was the second time that the Olympic torch flame was put out.
Either 2004 or 1896 are incorrect. Trav (talk) 13:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect dating

message: Is the flame really extinguished after the end of each Olympics?  I know the flame at Squaw Valley is still burning; I drive by it several times a year. EAE (Holla!) 06:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinguished? 

message: The original promoter/creater of the torch run idea was Diem. However Goebbels was managing/supervising the propaganda effort around the games. So the 2 people closely associated with the torch run's origin are Diem and Goebbels and should be mentioned as such. Hitler as dictator was of cause kinda supervising both, but afaik he was not that closely involved in the actual implementation and management.--Kmhkmh (talk) 08:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Diem,Goebbels,Hitler

message: "The Olympic Flame, Olympic Fire, Olympic Torch, Olympic Light, Olympic Eye, and Olympic Sun are all names for an important **marketing** promotion and symbol of the Olympic Games."
I disagree with the word "marketing" here (although it is true that you can actually buy torch replicas). Anyone object to my removing it? 88.32.216.139 (talk) 13:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections at all. This is an absolute mischaracterisation of the flame and its spirit. Please go ahead and remove it. Dr.K. (talk) 03:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was this edit. Obviously uncited speculation. Dr.K. (talk) 03:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry but I changed it because it had to be fixed as soon as possible because it was a bad example of WP:OR. Thank you for your comment. Dr.K. (talk) 03:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing? 

message: These were added by an old edit (diff). These terms are not common. The concept here is the "Flame" not  the "Eye", the "Light" or the "Sun". Until reliable sources are used for the  "Light", the "Eye" or the "Sun" they should not appear again in the article. Dr.K. (talk) 22:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Olympic Eye, Olympic Light, Sun etc.

message: Does anyone know for sure whether the paralympic and olympic flame is the same.  There seems to be a different history of both.  But they appear to be described as the same flame here? Benjwong (talk) 04:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Can't tell

message: I've put a "citation needed" tag on references to there being a flame symbolising, or only lit during, the ancient Olympics. Of the references given, the Britannica says "A perpetual fire was indeed maintained in Hera’s temple, but it had no role in the ancient Games" and the NYT article just says "A sacred flame did burn 24 hours a day at Olympia", without commenting on its significence to the Games, if any. The Times article does say "The torch relay is a celebration of the ancient fires that burnt through the original Olympiads", but that's pretty vague (especially since, classically, "Olympiad" meant "four year period from one Games to the next"), and was written by a journalist, not a historian. There's no mention of it in the Ancient Olympics article, either. Daibhid C (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ancient Olympics

message: ... is completely speculation as it does not have one single reference.  I have added tags to each line and to the whole section.  Such information without references is pron to vandalism and it should be either referenced or removed. Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 01:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Route followed by the flame ... 

message: Who thought that putting  after every other word in} this article would be a good idea? It looks terrible. Just because something needs to be cited, it doesn't need a big fat  header. Cite it yourself, or use this as appropriate: 
GeeCee (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, this looks terrible. You could, of course, have corrected this yourself, according to Wikipedia principles. -- megA (talk) 10:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a disaster{{Fact|date=February 2009}} 

message: Hi. According to the article, the Olympic Flame has only gone out during a few relays. However, in the 2010 relay, it appears that the flame is ignited and extinguished through a switch system, so that non-official torchbearers such as regular Canadians (?) could hold the flame, and the article on the flame itself shows the unlit flame. Is this unusual? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 23:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olympic flame in the [[2010 Winter Olympics torch relay]] 

message: If someone could fix the sentence ""The athletes were to smoke the poles with the torches and light them up which went to the cauldron." with regards to the 2010 ceremony that might be a good idea.
"smoke the poles"" while funny, is not really the correct wording. "The athletes were to simultaneously light the base of the poles, which would then carry the flame upwards to the cauldron" might be better, thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spackling (talk • contribs) 07:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi Protected So I Can't Change This Myself...

message: The "Official" one was lit by Wayne Gretzky 
Also, there was one person due to technical error who was not able to light the psudo one... So unfortunately I feel that they should not be included in the wiki.
but which one should we say was lit? I honestly think we should just stick with Gretzky since he lit the one that is the official torch.
Further Edit: This needs to be edited in two places: the paragraph before the chart... ends with saying the four lit it simultaneously ... only three lit that torch, however, once again... it was Wayne Gretzky that lit the TRUE final torch.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.58.9 (talk) 08:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The lighting of Vancovers

message: Should there be a section about the different designs of the torches in all the Olympics? I know they are different for each olympics but I couldn't find any info in wikipedia on what they all looked like.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosridge (talk • contribs) 15:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torch Designs 

message: Can we delete the section called "List"? It's merely a duplication of List of people who have lit the Olympic Cauldron, which is linked to right after, in the section "Cauldron".  --  Zanimum (talk) 22:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like someone duplicated that table back to this article. I went ahead and removed it again. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Merci.  --  Zanimum (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleting the section "List" 

message: I may be wrong, but I believe that there is a typo. The article says that 1976 winter games were held in Innsburck. I believe that the correct spelling is Innsbruck. If I am correct could someone please change this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.141.7.66 (talk) 23:19, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1976 Winter Olympics were in Innsbruck, not Innsburck.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Misspelling

message: I was watching Horrible Histories and it said that in relay races at the Ancient Games, one end of the torch was on fire so the runners had to be careful when they handed it over. Instantly I thought of the Olympic torch relay when they mentioned this. The link to the episode with the feature in is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012mhv3/Horrible_Histories_Series_3_Episode_11/ the section starts at 20:25 but it is only available until 2nd August 2011 and it is only available to people in the UK with a TV license (If you don't have one you could get arrested). I will try to find some more sources that say this fact so people from other countries can see a source at any time. 82.5.224.82 (talk) 19:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what the Beijing 2008 website says though I am not sure for how long the site will stay up. "The Ancient Greeks held a "lampadedromia" (the Greek word for Torch Relay), where athletes competed by passing on the Flame in a relay race to the finish line. In ancient Athens the ritual was performed during the Panathenaia fest, held every four years in honour of the goddess Athena. The strength and purity of the sacred Flame was preserved through its transportation by the quickest means; in this case a relay of Torchbearers. The Torch Relay carried the Flame from the altar of Prometheus to the altar of goddess Athena on the Acropolis. Forty youths from the ten Athenian tribes had to run a distance of 2.5 kilometers in total." Here is the link to the site http://torchrelay.beijing2008.cn/en/archives/others/n214039831.shtml If the article is correct I would suggest that it be included in the article. 82.5.224.82 (talk) 19:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Ancient Origins 

message: I thought the Olympic items were as follows:
Olympic Flame = The flame/fire itself.
Olympic Torch = The handheld torch.
Olympic Cauldron = The main thingy lit by the last torch bearer in the Olympic Stadium.
Since the Sydney Olympics at least, the so-called "cauldron" hasn't been a cauldron at all as Sydney had a disc, Athens an Olympic Torch itself and Beijing had a scroll. So I'm wondering, is there a better word we could use other then "Cauldron"? All I ever seem to think of is a Witch's cook pot (hehe). AnimatedZebra (talk) 00:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olympic [insert name here]. 

message: Hi, I saw this sentence "Eleven women, representing the Vestal Virgins, perform a ceremony...". This does not stroke with this image :File:Greece 2004 Olympics flame ceremony DSC04251.jpg, which shows 12 women in the ceremony of 2004. Can someone enlighten this please. Thank you, Taketa (talk) 20:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of women lighting the torch 

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message: Why no coverage of the large number of disabled people who attended the torch ceremony this evening (18 May 2012)to protest at the use of Atos to sponsor the paralympic games? Has it been edited out? 212.139.100.244 (talk) 01:17, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 2012 Disabled Rights Protests at Olympic Torch Ceremony 

message: The report about the flame of the 1992 Olympics contradicts another wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Summer_Olympics
The flame was light by a technician not the arrow itself.
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thread_title:  Barcelona lighting 

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message: How is the flame at other sites lighted?  Is a torch lighted at the cauldron and then carried to the other sites? 104.153.40.58 (talk) 00:28, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
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