Talk:Atlanta/Archive 1

message: Why does the map only show the Fulton part of Atlanta?
On the other hand, why do the numbers show only the "city of Atlanta" area for Fulton County but the entire area of DeKalb County, GA?
Located in Fulton County and Dekalb County in the state of Georgia 
County Fulton County, Georgia 
Area
 - Total
 - Water 
343.0 km² (132.4 mi²)
1.8 km² (0.7 mi²) 0.51% 
County Dekalb County, Georgia 
Area
 - Total
 - Water 
695.0 km² (268.0 mi²)
7.0 km² (3.0 mi²) 1.00% 
→ R Young {yakłtalk} 07:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fulton and DeKalb

message: Piedmont Park may be the most visited park in Atlanta, but it is not be the largest park in Atlanta by area.  According to the AJC, Piedmont Park is 185 acres, but Freedom Park is 197 acres. 
==errata== the masquerade is closed?  news to me, since masq.com is still up, shows are scheduled, and there's always cars there when i drive by....
:No, it's not closed yet, but the land is up for bid and will likely be sold within the year.  -- uberpenguin 15:13, 2005 Apr 13 (UTC)
News report a couple of weeks ago in the AJC said it will close by or before Spring 2006. Too bad. I used to go there when it was Excelsior Mill, with a dinner club upstairs and cinema downstairs (Heaven and Hell, respectively, in Masquerade).Uncle Bubba 06:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Piedmont Park

message: In reviewing this page, I realize it is in need of better organization.  A quick glance at the table of contents reveals both City attractions and Major attractions sections.  The City attractions section contains significant info on businesses, yet there is a Businesses section as well.  I know there other who watch this page, so I wanted to get some input before doing something dramatic.  
I'm thinking of a new structure something like this:
* History
* Geography
** Climate
** Neighborhoods
** Metropolitan area
** Suburbs
* Government and politics
* Demographics
* Business and development
** Headquarters
** Skyscrapers
* Colleges and universities
* Recreation
** Sports teams
** Major attractions
** Arts, culture, music
** Major events
* Other 
** Atlanta in film and television
** Famous Atlantans
* References and further reading
* External links
It also need a transportation (sub)section but I'm undecided where it should go.
Thoughts?  Autiger 17:11, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Refactoring RFC

message: I have removed the following from the first para:
:CNN and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution have reported that the city's explosive growth, both in geographic size and number of inhabitants, is the fastest of any metropolitan area in the history of the world. 
on the grounds that:
* it is a bit too boosterist in tone for an encyclopedia
* it quotes two sources but fails to mention both are headquartered in Atlanta and therefore hardly likely to be impartial
* given the growth rates of some of the third-world mega-cities, I find it hard to believe
* it presumably relates to the metropolitan area, not the city
I've no objection to similar text being replaced (preferably in Atlanta metropolitan area rather than Atlanta, Georgia, and minus words like explosive), if  someone can come up with a respectable and impartial source for the claim. -- Chris j wood 13:02, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree the claim is almost impossible to substantiate.  It should be in Atlanta metropolitan area if anywhere; the City of Atlanta proper has not expanded appreciately in land area (would require annexations) in the last ten years at least.  The city has also just recorded its first population increase (year over year) in several years as well.  I honestly don't know that it's worthy of inclusion even as an attribution. Autiger 20:17, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed some boosterist stuff from second para 

message: Until lately the Atlanta wiki was okay, but something made it say it cannot be displayed. Is this common with wikis?? Georgia guy 00:03, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atlwiki.org 

message: Why are the temperatures given in celsius first and then fahrenheit? It's an American city, fahrenheit should be given first in order to avoid confusion. When I first read the table, when I saw the average January high I thought "wow, 11 is really low!" and then I saw that celsius was first, just as it was throughout the section. Mike H. That's hot 05:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Climate concern

message: The vast majority of the section on religion seems to suffer from a large POV problem.  Furthermore, citations should be used to either verify or nulify the claims made in that section.
*"Out of 75 private schools listed in Fulton county, only 8 have no religious ties."
:I found a list of private schools in Fulton County under this website:Private Schools Report
:It was copyrighted 2005 so it's pretty recent. In total on that list there are 72 private schools with only 20 hinting a Christian affiliation on the school name. Maybe the citation needs to go to this site? Or the claim in the article taken out? --Onejsin 22:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: There's really no reason for this article to be 56k long. The lead is unnecessarily long and should be structured per WP:LEAD. The article should be written in Summary style, with sections in the article referencing more detailed, main articles. I have done some copyediting, wikifying, but a lot more changes will be made. AreJay 02:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The lead section is much too long. This needs to be fixed if this article is to be considered for Wikipedia 0.5. Kaldari 20:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead and article 

message: Now those migrants to Atlanta needs to stop being the authors of are city's characteristics. You do not know our history or geography so leave it up to us to explain it. You do a better job on your true hometown articles about how horrible it is to live in Michigan or Ohio or where ever you earthed from your rat hole of lies and degradation of are great city. Add all the Correction to the Article in discussion page or I'll take it upon my self.  Jim Dobbs, born March 30th, 1953, Palmetto, GA (now inc. in the city of Atlanta)
:Hiya. You're free to edit the article just like the rest of us. Feel free to correct any mistakes you see. --BWD (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article makes me a proud Atlantan ashamed! 

message: I don't know much about sports (in general), but it seems that the sports section has too many individual "paragraphs" which most of them are only a couple sentences. I tried combining some of them but I didn't know how to combine some others. If I did something wrong I'm really sorry but it just seemed like there were too many; if someone doesn't like it, change it back. --Onejsin 03:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sports

message: The following section was placed in the article beneath "crime". It has a few problems which caused me to remove it from the article: 1)It's unsourced 2)It's written in an unecyclopedic, breathless style 3)It overwhelms the article with tangentially related information. I think that this information would be fine if it were cited, rewritten and included as part of an article entitled History of Atlanta (currently a redirect to Atlanta). Sayeth 17:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It's written in a novel format. It's oddly out of place. --BWD (talk) 20:21, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed section 

message: Please shorten the lead to conform to WP:LEAD PDXblazers 04:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The lead section of this article is too long. Please shorten it to three paragraphs (four paragraphs max). —RJN 05:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: Funny that the article currently uses this photo to lead the article off. That view is from Piedmont Park and I remember when I saw it for the first time, I remarked that you could take a picture from there and somebody might get the illusion that Atlanta is on a major body of water. I personally think the view of the skyline from the North Avenue bridge would be a better choice as it more accurately represents the city (especially if you capture some rush hour traffic on the Downtown Connector) but I'll defer to others if they like the current picture. — GT 02:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main photo