Talk:Emma Watson/Archive 2

message: In ELLE Girl interview "Emma! What's up", Emma said something about her career in the future and some other things people should know.
Why don't we add them in the page ?
That's a good idea. 
I agree (Punk Rocker 11:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another things people should know 

message: No More listing of Fan sites
Can we like like lock the page? There seems to be some vandalism going on
*Who are you to say no more fansites? I don't see a consensus here on that. And you should sign your comments.--Azathar 03:29, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fansites 

message: Speaking of which, what's the French connection here? A few shaky fan sites say that her mother is French. Is this true? Anyone know? If her mother is French, then why is her paternal grandmother's name "Charlotte Duerre"? Vulturell 03:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Contact her publicist? We can do that?Vulturell 05:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone is free to contact her publicist. However the material from the publicist which isn't available elsewhere might be challenged as unverifiable. At a minimum, it'd be necessary to post the response on the talk page. -Willmcw 05:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Willmcw is correct on both counts—and, on the second, my plan is to do precisely that. RadioKirk 06:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, what could be done is post a scan of the response, scan the letter and post the scan. That would be considered verifiable, especially if you leave on the Publicist's contact information.--Azathar 07:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably, this would be done by e-mail, or by phone with an e-mail for confirmation. If her pub's e-mail is not publicly known, I would have to edit it from the screenshot. I'll play it by ear... RadioKirk 18:37, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I have spoken with Amy at HPFilms (through Leavesden Studios publicity, at present the only representatives for Miss Watson), and she tells me that it may be a while before we receive the answers to our questions (Emma is in school at the moment). Nevertheless, I have sent the questions to Amy via e-mail, and I'll keep on top of this as best I can. RadioKirk 17:56, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, sort of; I'd already read the article and it includes some information, but it also contradicts other sources that say she was born in Oxford and was moved to Paris while very young. Also, there's nothing in it about the grandmother after whom she's supposedly named. I hope to get all this from HPFilms. RadioKirk 15:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: French Connection

message: Someone today changed "Chris" (Emma's father) to "Christopher", so I did a little research: Reporting in the UK and US on the actors' hirings identify her father as "Chris". Meantime, several fansites identify her mother as "Jacqueline Duerre", including the closest thing to an "official" Emma site I can find . This could mean Emma was named for her mother's mother, or that "Emma" and "Duerre" are completely unrelated as relates to the actress. So, for now, I've passed over the reference as I investigate.
In any event, this needs official clarification. I'll try to contact her publicist. RadioKirk 22:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Contact her publicist? We can do that?Vulturell 05:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone is free to contact her publicist. However the material from the publicist which isn't available elsewhere might be challenged as unverifiable. At a minimum, it'd be necessary to post the response on the talk page. -Willmcw 05:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Willmcw is correct on both counts—and, on the second, my plan is to do precisely that. RadioKirk 06:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, what could be done is post a scan of the response, scan the letter and post the scan. That would be considered verifiable, especially if you leave on the Publicist's contact information.--Azathar 07:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably, this would be done by e-mail, or by phone with an e-mail for confirmation. If her pub's e-mail is not publicly known, I would have to edit it from the screenshot. I'll play it by ear... RadioKirk 18:37, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I have spoken with Amy at HPFilms (through Leavesden Studios publicity, at present the only representatives for Miss Watson), and she tells me that it may be a while before we receive the answers to our questions (Emma is in school at the moment). Nevertheless, I have sent the questions to Amy via e-mail, and I'll keep on top of this as best I can. RadioKirk 17:56, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, sort of; I'd already read the article and it includes some information, but it also contradicts other sources that say she was born in Oxford and was moved to Paris while very young. Also, there's nothing in it about the grandmother after whom she's supposedly named. I hope to get all this from HPFilms. RadioKirk 15:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jacqueline Duerre

message: In the November-Issue of "Evening Standard" said Emma (on page 46) that she was born in Paris while her parents were working there as lawyers and that they get divorced (after moving to England) when she was five. That must be proof enough, but if you want more to add Paris as Emmas place of birth I could post the scan of the interview were Emma said this herself.
-- FallingDown 14:47, January 25 2006 (CET)
The Evening Standard is a tabloid newspaper and is not considered a reliable source. --Yamla 14:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of Birth 

message: Radcliffe, Grint and Watson were introduced to the press in July, 2000, and the official press release came in August.  The film was released in November, 2001. Emma (born 15 April 1990) was 10 and 11, respectively. RadioKirk talk to me 18:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emma's age when hired for ''Philosopher's Stone'' 

message: To fully explain this reversion, I left this message on the user's Talk page (which applies in part to the other reversions):
:Your edits to Emma Watson have been reverted again. Please read and understand: Per this Wikipedia policy, editors should use "only ... facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments that have already been published by reputable publishers." Later in the policy under Sources, it states, "Articles should rely on credible, third-party sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." In short, fan sites do not qualify. At the same time, it is my belief that a comparison of hair color between Ms. Watson and her character fails the test of what is relevant to an encyclopedia entry (as opposed to a fan page); Wikipedia:Editing policy#On editing styles includes the irrelevancy issue as a legitimate reason to remove data. I would ask that you please familiarize yourself with these and other policies so that you may be a more productive editor.
I'm adding this here as my edit summary was somewhat lacking in detail. RadioKirk talk to me 02:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversions of [[User:Gtapro91]]'s edits 

message: I added this template variation:
This article includes unconfirmed information or data from dubious sources. You can help Wikipedia by introducing appropriate, verifiable citations.
This is based on the discussions on this page and the fact that most of what we think we know about Ms. Watson comes from fan pages. Until we have verifiable sources for this data, this tag should remain. RadioKirk talk to me 03:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give me an idea of which specific data you're referring to? We don't really have much here about her personal life. Most is on her film career. JackO'Lantern 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Virtually everything about her personal life is from fan sites or is data from seemingly reputable sources that conflicts with data from other seemingly reputable sources; including her place of birth, her parents' precise names, their divorce, her early life, sports, nearly all of it. At the moment, I'm not prepared to take anything more than the names of the family cats (repeated in more than one interview) as set-in-stone fact. Seriously... RadioKirk talk to me 03:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  <nowiki>{{unreferenced}}</nowiki> tag variation

message: While i feel "best known for" suits actors who have  amore varied CV, simply using "known for" in this case, however acurate, i think makes her sound like a villian. How about changing it to "who plays..."? Also, could someone archive some of this talkpage as the file's getting so big? Amo 22:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, and done. :) RadioKirk talk to me 22:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening sentence 

message: Has Emma ever actually stated that she won this 'Daisy Pratt Poetry Competition'?
We seem to be removing all unsourced data from the article.Is this unsourced?
:Being a pretty big Emma Watson fan, I personally have seen it written in numerous articles, magazine interviews, fan sites, etc. --Kevin Walter 04:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would consider this a reliable source. :) RadioKirk talk to me 16:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, Emma has stated that while her hair is a natural brown, she has never dyed it, and it bleaches quite easily in the sun. Remember the Entertainment Weekly photoshoot? --Kevin Walter 22:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daisy Pratt Poetry? 

message: Is it true that Emma Watson smokes and takes Ritalin (Punk Rocker 11:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reliable source for any smoking, drinking (holding a beer and drinking it are not synonymous) or Ritalin use. We appreciate you asking on the talk page. :) RadioKirk talk to me 15:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're in a picture looking drunk, in a friends house with no adults, and holding a beer - you're drinking. --mboverload@ 20:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL okay... and, who gets to judge "looking drunk"? She looked like she was having a jolly good laugh at someone's expense to me... ;) RadioKirk talk to me 23:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Shouldn't we talk about her music tastes in this article. In many websites, it mentions that she enjoys hip hop music. Should we also write about her wanting a music career in the future. {{Punk Rocker 19:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, provided you WP:CITE your information.  You've been asked over and over again, Punk Rocker, to cite your sources.  --Yamla 20:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In her Spring 2005 Newsletter, she does state that
"I love R&B, Hip Hop and street to dance to"
http://www.ewonline.net/ewletter-spring2005.html
--www.ewonline.net 00:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music tastes

message: An editor wishes to note that Alex is "three years younger" than Emma. Several problems: it's an approximation; it's frankly irrelevant, especially considering he is not currently of note; and it very nearly qualifies as fancruft. Anything peripheral to the article's subject and why we would know him/her should be presented with all possible dispatch and, in this case, her brother's age simply does not belong in the article. RadioKirk talk to me 20:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I back your decision. --mboverload@ 20:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brother's age

message: I don't think the ref for her changing to Bedales School is valid. It's from a fansite, who got it's information from the Daily Mail, a tabloid. 70.50.172.72 02:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sound off, Brits, what's the rep of the Daily Mail? RadioKirk (u|t|c) 03:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bedales

message: All  or  tags have been replaced why do we still have box stating that appropiate citations are needed at the top of the page.
If sources still need citing then why have they no got one of the two tags above the questionable phrases? --Jhfireboy I'm listening 19:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed; it will be gone with my next edit, in progress. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing Sources 

message: Shouldn't we delete this section, as a trivia section makes an article worse. DavidJJJ 10:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia section