Talk:HAL Laboratory

message: Although the list of games gives a good idea of what games they've developed it says little about the company itself. It is also abotu 75% of the page length. I think it would be a good idea to split that into its own article. What do you think? Chipotlehero 19:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Games as Separate article

message: The article says HAL is a first-party developer but the box at the bottom says they're a second-party --Headcase 15:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IGN says it's a second-party developer. --Evice 21:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First Party or Second Party?

message: Would be nice to have information on how their logo came to be a dog sheltering eggs.
:There's a bit of info from a Nintendo Power interview here, though it's not really much (first question): http://www.nintendo.com/gamedev?gameid=m-Game-0000-1728 --GigaVolt 05:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo origin 

message: Is this the same HAL Labs that developed games for Commodore? Mirror Vax 11:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commodore 

message: Is it me or does anyone else find the "games developed" section and the "list of games" section to be redundant? Likewise, the first reads like a trivia section, which is against WP:Trivia. I think it would be sufficient to just delete the "games developed" section as the "list of games" section seems to meet the purpose. Those who want to read about the games themselves can click on the article links. Drumpler 08:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancy? 

message: Is HAL really developing this game? As far as I know, the developer has never actually been named. All we know is that Masahiro Sakurai is the director, and since he's working for his own company, Sora, it seems more likely that Sora is making Brawl. In any case, we can't say with any kind of certainty that HAL is making it. Zenintendofanatic 18:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted it from the list. And please guys, don't add it again unless some reliable source confirms HAL Lab. is developing Brawl.--R-RockMan.EXE (talk) 08:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Smash Bros. Brawl 

message: The HAL logo for little more than a decade now has confused many. A dog with eggs around it? Dogs are mammals and do not lay eggs; I figured some source wouldv'e turned up discussing the reason why HAL has this as their logo by now. • GunMetal Angel 08:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The recent ZombiU Iwata Asks reveals a different origin of their name from the one listed in this article. It seems somewhat at odds with what Iwata has said before, so not sure what you Wikipedia folks want the article to say about it.
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-asks/Iwata-asks-ZombiU/ZombiU/2-What-Is-And-What-Isn-t-Possible/2-What-Is-And-What-Isn-rsquo-t-Possible-676582.html
"Iwata: We were exactly the same in that sense. Ubisoft was named after Ubiquity because you wanted to be everywhere in the world and HAL was named as such because each letter put us one step ahead of IBM! (Laughs)"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin64 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming Contradiction?

message: The Kotaku source for the claim that HAL is a Nintendo subsidiary is not good enough.  It's a throwaway line in a throwaway news post.  Nintendo is a publicly listed company, there are disclosures of their subsidiaries in their annual reports.  I'm not familiar with Japanese disclosure requirements, but Western companies must disclose their main subsidiaries, although they do not have to exhaustively list every one.
None of Nintendo's reports mention HAL being a subsidiary.  HAL do not mention being a Nintendo subsidiary.  That they'd set up Warp Star together suggests that HAL and Nintendo are separate. - hahnchen 16:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You can contact HAL Laboratory at webmaster-at-hallab.co.jp to clarify their ownership status.  You can email me and I can forward you their response.  HAL are an independent company.  The sources that claim it is a subsidiary are doing lazy non-research. - hahnchen 19:51, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're free to contact them then. I don't want to lose too much time on this. --Arkhandar (Talk • Contribs) 20:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I already have.  They have responded.  They are not a Nintendo subsidiary.  I was just confirming that aside from emailing them yourself, you could email me for their response. - hahnchen 21:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You can post it here, if you wish too, I'll assume good-faith.--Arkhandar (Talk • Contribs) 22:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Just heard back from Eiki Morimoto from Nintendo's investor relations - IR-at-nintendo.co.jp.  Neither HAL, Creatures or Intelligent Systems are subsidiaries.  I only asked about those three companies, as they do not appear on Nintendo's annual report. - hahnchen 21:04, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they only work with close contact with Nintendo. Creatures Inc. is an affiliated company though.--Arkhandar (Talk • Contribs) 21:39, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: HAL is not a Nintendo subsidiary

message: It says he was, but Iwata got a part-time job there fresh out of college, according to his Wikipedia article. No citation here either; the line stating that he joined part-time out of college has two citations. Though, he did become its president at one point. HylianDev (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iwata was not the founder of HAL 

message: These are not the same company according to information I've seen. HAL Labs was Brian Fitzgerald's American company most known for Taxman. HAL Laboratory is the Japanese company featured here. The similar names and the fact that both actually made some similar games for the same systems is causing this confusion. Both probably took their names from the HAL computer. Currently "HAL Labs" redirects to this article... Someone should clear this up. 5.45.62.139 (talk) 20:21, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  HAL Labs vs HAL Laboratory 

message: Yes, a surprising footnote to history in some ways, but HAL actually made the Famicom version of Joust.  This video briefly explains this had some special historical significance (in the preparation of the Famicom for the America market as the NES), and I have no reason to gainsay the claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJpeGLCipmE 18:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joust is missing (from the list, article, etc.)