Talk:Jason Donovan

message: On the 22 September 2008 edition of BBC One's The Dark Side of Fame with Piers Morgan, Donovan claimed that he married Angela Malloch. However, I haven't found any evidence of that; both this article, and many other sources, give the impression that he has never married anyone. Can anyone clarify the truth of the matter? Werdnawerdna (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. Further, the article's writing style leads to a bizarre theory: that Donovan managed to produce a daughter all by himself, without the contribution of any female Homo Sapiens specimen at all. --AVM (talk) 18:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Donovan and Molloch married in Bali in Summer 2008. There are sources added to the article to show this now.80.47.43.200 (talk) 11:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Married?

message: Would it be possible for someone with the time and inclination to put together a list of acting credits, akin to the discography ? He is better known here (in Australia) as an actor, particularly after MDA which was excellent, and a list of acting credits would be an asset, for someone on their way to the video shop for instance ...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mummywolf (talk • contribs) 00:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  jason donovan 

message: Would it be possible for someone with the time and inclination to put together a list of acting credits, akin to the discography ? He is better known here (in Australia) as an actor, particularly after MDA which was excellent, and a list of acting credits would be an asset, for someone on their way to the video shop for instance ...  Mummywolf (talk) 00:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  jason donovan 

message: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2010/08/who-do-you-think-you-are-see-jason-donovans-ancestors-in-our-records/comment-page-1/#comment-59796  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.34.201 (talk) 18:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Donovans Irish ancestry. 

message: It appears that several accounts are engaged in a content dispute on this live pagespace. I'd encourage all editors to remember WP:BRD, and stop the revert war with discussion on this talkpage. At this moment, some registered editors are claiming the insertions are BLP/Undue violations, and other contributors, all ip users, are making claims the reverting editors are blatantly vandalizing the page. Without going into either claim, I can safely say that nobody is discussing this disagreement on the talk page, as we expect all editors to do. This has been going on for the last five days. Please move your dispute to this location before several of the editors are blocked for 3RR, since two have passed that threshold in the last 24 hours. BusterD (talk) 04:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring  Meters (talk) 04:36, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is where I saw it. Discussion of content issues belongs here, as you correctly pointed out on 3RR. This has now involved 3 registered accounts, and three ip addresses, over the course of five days. At this point, refusing to discuss on talk makes it likely more than one user will be blocked for warring. BusterD (talk) 04:45, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like the ip's (, , , }) are all one person. If that's the case, then an immediate block is due as 87.112.71.198 was already blocked for edit-warring. --Ronz (talk) 17:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an issue for WP:SPI. Raise it there if you like, but not here. Meters (talk) 01:56, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring in live pagespace 

message: :The cited source added to this section (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-09-02/jason-donovan-plans-new-album/496394  seems wp:RS since it's ABC) says that Donovan and Minogue "briefly dated". That's not enough to justify saying that they were "romantically involved", as has been pointed out several times now, and it's WP:Undue to change the section header to 1988–91: Pop career and relationship with Kylie Minogue. They may well have been briefly romantically involved, but it could also mean little more than that they were seen in public together a few times by the paparazzi.
:The edit concerning Donovan having dyed his hair brown for his 1990 movie role seems rather trivial to bother including. Comparing his hair colour to that in a video does not verify the statement since I don't think there is a source given which says which of the two hair colours is his real colour. Even so, I don't care if this statement is included. I have no reason to doubt that the information as given is correct, and it's not contentious. Note that this entire subsection needs a BLP unsourced section tag. Any remaining unsourced info can be removed after that tag has been in place for a while. Meters (talk) 23:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 1988–91: Pop career

message: *I tend to agree that based on presented sources, changing the title of this section to include the name of a personality the subject briefly dated seems to give undue weight to the relationship. Further, I agree that the information about hair color, while it may be accurate, is not significant enough information to be included without sourcing specifically covering the appearance change. I also agree adding the "BLP unsourced" tag to this section as suggested. BusterD (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: *'In 1991, with questions about his ability to sing, and the break-up of his relationship with Minogue due to her relationship with INXS singer Michael Hutchence, Donovan accepted the lead role...' vs 'In 1991, Donovan accepted the lead role...'
:Unsourced negative BLP. Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Restaged is a more precise term in reference to a performance. Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Unsourced negative BLP. WP:Undue emphasis on how well the production did without Donovan. Why would his presence, or lack of it, have had anything to do with awards for set design or costumes? No sources are cited so the quotes around exhaustion are WP:SCAREQUOTES, implying that it was something other than exhaustion that resulted in Donovan's departure. Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

text: The new ref does not support this change. 'alienated his gay audience' does not support saying that 'it had the effect of alienating much of his audience', and the original (accusation of, rather than appearance of, homophobia) seems more neutral and correct. We know that people accused him of being homophobic, but it's not up to us to interpret that as meaning that he appeared to be homophobic. Accusations can be mistaken or even malicious, for example. Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

text: unsourced negative BLP. Possible wp:synthesis Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Some of this is OK, but I'm not sure about het tone, and I done enough for now.Meters (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for putting all of this on the table. Sunlight has a disinfecting effect. BusterD (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There's more, but so far I really can't accept the IP's supposedly referenced version. I'd like to hear other opinions, though.  Meters (talk) 01:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You have done well to enunciate my initial concerns and edits (and more) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 1991–93: Stage career and ''The Face'' lawsuit

message: *I feel that without accurate and specific sourcing, it would be OR to state conclusions like each of those those listed above. Detail without sourcing has no place on Wikipedia, and especially so in the case of a BLP. BusterD (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: *' where he suffered a drug-induced seizure and was rushed to hospital.' vs 'where he suffered a drug-induced seizure.'
:The cited source does not support the addition of the "rushed to hospital", but it also does not support the "drug-induced seizure" The symptoms mentioned are a racing heart, blurred vision, disorientation, and buckling legs, with no mention of a seizure. An ambulance was called, but you have to infer the subsequent trip to the hospital (however, it's easy to find online refs to confirm that he was taken to hospital), and there is no mention of a dramatic, high-speed ambulance ride. Meters (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The cited source does not support "various articles". The source is one article, and it mentions no others. Meters (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

text: The ref is from 2008 so as it stands I agree that the IP change to past tense is more accurate. Better would be to say that 'Donovan stated in 2008 that he has been drug-free since 2000', and best would be to keep 'Donovan states he has been drug-free since 2000' but with a new ref to show that he still states that (for example in 2012 or 2014. Meters (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That he used drugs prior to the 2000 birth of his child is not in question. All of the sources agree, including statements by Donovan. The change to the past tense leaves a possible connotation that while Donovan used to claim that he was drug free, he no longer does so. A simple update to the ref allows us to remove any uncertainty and clarify that he still maintains that he has been drug free since 2000. Meters (talk) 17:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 1995–99: Drug addiction, ''The Last Bullet'' and continued musical work

message: *I tend to agree again with User:Meters about each of the points above. Possible substance abuse and other potentially damaging material on a BLP is precisely why the BLP rules were established. Putting such information in a Wikipedia article without reliable sourcing tends to discredit both the page subject and Wikipedia as an institution. There are plenty of social media websites devoted to wild speculation and synthesis, but Wikipedia should never be one of them. BusterD (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That he used drugs prior to the 2000 birth of his child is not in question. All of the sources agree, including statements by Donovan. The change to the past tense leaves a possible connotation that while Donovan used to claim that he was drug free, he no longer does so. A simple update to the ref allows us to remove any uncertainty and clarify that he still maintains that he has been drug free since 2000. Meters (talk) 17:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: *Correcting the Stevie Wright wikilink.
:A valid edit that got caught up in the edit war. The original wikilink The Steve Wright Show was invalid and the IP's wikilink Steve Wright (DJ) (piped to The Steve Wright Show) works. I reinstated this edit as soon as I noticed, and it is in the current fully-protected article. Meters (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005–06: Virgin Mobile phone controversy and participation in I'm A Celebrity...

message: *Agree. BusterD (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: AFAIK Jason Donovan and Kylie Minogue were a couple off-screen while they were also a couple on-screen, and at that time also released the duet "Especially For You". Why isn't this mentioned in the article? Maikel (talk) 20:02, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Jason and Kylie

message: I have deleted "He is now the voice of 'pop's in the tv series 'boj'" from the introduction: it relates to activity from 2014, and isn't significant enough for the introduction. Please revert this edit if you disagree. WeißwurstJon (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention of Boj in introduction 

message: Jason Donovan also appeared on Dame Edna’s Neighborhood Watch S2 E7: Sally’s Home, which aired in 1993. 2604:3D09:387:C800:95F:2813:FCF4:F4B8 (talk) 18:15, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV Appearance