Talk:Chris Ferguson

message: *I edited the page about the reason for his nickname.  In addition to his hair and beard the page referred to his hat, yet I don't recall very many paintings of Jesus with a cowboy hat on.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 07:40, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: The use of the nickname "Jesus" is extremely disrespectful and offensive to many people, therefore I have removed it from the Wikipedia page. Including it prominently at the top of the page as part of his name is a form of publicity, which wikipedia cannot endorse. Whether or not it should be mentioned later in the article is debatable. While I know that Ferguson is an atheist and there are many others like this, the least that a rational, logical person could do is respect the religious beliefs of others. Professional poker player Daniel Negreanu has also mentioned that he finds the nickname offensive.
:It's his nickname, whether it offends you or anyone else or not. 2005 01:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The nickname is mentioned prominently twice already, including a section titled "Nickname". 2005 (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Ferguson's nickname 

message: Chris Ferguson is sometimes used to refer to Christopher Ferguson, an astronaut who flew on STS-115. The fourth result in a Google search for "chris ferguson" links to the astronaut's biography page. Perhaps this article could use a disambig notice at the top. PeepP 18:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree: this is a common pratice i.e. Gavin Smith, I will add it. --Sirex98 20:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christopher Ferguson 

message: In the article, it is mentioned "He is also renowned for having painstakingly turned $1 into more than $20,000 on an online poker site over six months, as a personal challenge." However it does not say on which server, does anyone know?
--Chuck SMITH 23:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why was "claims" added to the mention of both challenges? Is this really in dispute, even with the citation that says the proceeds $10,000 are going to charity? Mbelisle 08:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BLP would require removing the line if stated as fact.  Obviously the chances of independantly reliably sourcing this are close to zero, and an encyclopedia doesn't just print something as fact just because a person says something about themself. 2005 09:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The source as linked is Full Tilt Poker, which is not Chris Ferguson saying something about himself. Sure, he's involved with the company, but a company making a statement is not the same as an individual saying something. To be accurate and address your concern about verifiability, I changed it to say "Full Tilt Poker claims that he..."  Note that that's the only thing in that paragraph that's sourced in any way. I don't see why it gets treated as more questionable than his ability  to slice melons with playing cards. Mbelisle 08:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying Full Tilt says it is fine. 2005 09:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which online server?  $1 to $20k? 

message: The statement "Despite passing the $10k target the challenge continues and was at one point over $20k" is contradicted by the page it quotes: "In September of 2007 Chris finally achieved his $0 to $10,000 goal. Always true to his word, he donated his winnings to the Save the Children Foundation upon reaching the $10K mark."  Nowhere on the page does it mention that his bankroll for this challenge exceeded $20k, only that he reached the $10k mark.  I will leave the quote unchanged for now in case somebody has more they'd like to add regarding this challenge.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.114.52 (talk) 01:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation #12 $0-10,000 Challenge 

message: nh, sir -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heads-Up_Poker_Championship#2008 199.214.26.240 (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 NBC Headsup! Jesus FTW! 

message: Is it worth mentioning that he bad beat his opponent on the river to win the main event? I think so.--UhOhFeeling (talk) 06:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: er no... I know the question was asked several months ago... but that's poker.  I assume that every World Champion at some point got lucky... it's part of the game.---I'm Spartacus! NO! I'm Spartacus! 19:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Event Win 

message: "In college he honed his skill on IRC playing poker for play money in chat rooms."
How does one play poker on IRC? Seriously, I would like to see a source and explanation for this. Furthermore, it is blasphomous to apply the new generation "chat room" term from webchats to IRC which has channels instead. --84.249.164.59 (talk) 10:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look at IRC poker. 2005 (talk) 10:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Generally an IRC bot managed the game. PBot was one of the more well known poker bots. Tothwolf (talk) 11:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poker on IRC? 

message: I don't know if Chris Ferguson is or not however the source cited on here is from a blog which gets It's info from a different blog. I don't think that is reliable. --24.119.32.80 (talk) 02:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  athiest or not? 

message: Stanford Wong is the pen name of a John Ferguson.  Are John Ferguson and Chris Ferguson related?  They are both in math, computers and gambling.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.79.83 (talk) 19:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Related to Stanford Wong?

message: Is there a reason why the image is sideways? Wouldn't it be better to rotate it 90 degrees? --OGoncho (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: "In a late 2012 interview for PokerNews.com, Howard Lederer suggested that Ferguson was against paying dividends to Full Tilt's shareholders, believing they would weaken the company. Lederer said, further, that Ferguson cares more about his African charity than becoming wealthier. #ref http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g1wFJx461U&t=22m44s /ref#"
My reasons behind believe this doesn't belong on the page is that, due to WP:BLP, verifiability is incredibly important. Doubt has been cast on many things Lederer has said in his interviews and no other person (including Ferguson himself) have verified Lederer's claims. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Misuse of primary sources AND Wikipedia:PSTS#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources - Youreallycan 04:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

text: A fair point... but I'd argue that it's the specific interviewee himself, who isn't necessarily somebody to trust when discussing such a matter, coupled with the absence of any input from Ferguson himself that makes the statement unfit for a BLP article in my view. Youtube as a citation link is generally frowned upon, too. I guess this is just a case that strikes me as quite dodgy, though I'll admit that that makes it subjective; I'd like to know what other editors think. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 00:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

text: Your question is best asked here WP:BLPN. 2005 (talk) 20:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers, 2005, I'll sort that. I also think it's important that other poker-minded users offer their opinion, considering that whether Lederer's comments are valid or not requires knowledge of Lederer himself. I'll alert those I think might be interested. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 03:28, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

text: It think that this video of Lederer could be used as a valid primary source under certain circumstances but I don't think this is one for a variety of reasons including: 1) its fan trivia 2) its a side comment to a long discussion etc.-- — Keithbob • Talk •  23:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lederer comments

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