Talk:Moot hill

message: Due recent edits, the article now begins "Moot hills in Scotland".  Why is this?  There are moot hills elsewhere in Great Britain.  Surely the intro should be generic and the the material that is specific to Scotland should be in the Scotland section? (Recognising of course that the concept became far more developed and lasted longer in Scotland). --John Maynard Friedman 12:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the first subsection then begins, "In Scotland, they were known as mote hills."  Thus the article now contradicts itself.  Is it safe to excise "in Scotland" from the first sentence of the article, or is there a deeper problem with the definition or etymology? 71.204.204.249 12:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: [EDIT]] After reading further, it seems clear that "moot" is Old English, "mote" is Scots Gaelic derived from OE, so I am removing the confusing and etymologically incorrect statement from the opening sentence. 71.204.204.249 12:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Approve.  See also today's discussion at Talk:Moot hall. I think there is a strong case for the article to have a generic opening then detailed sections on the (richer) Scottish developents and the English developments. --John Maynard Friedman 12:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The desire to tidy the messy world up into neat packages ("moot is English spelling, mote Scottish") should be resisted. Do we have any evidence, other than negative, for this claim? Doops |  talk 13:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moot hills in Scotland or Moot hills in Great Britain? 

message: Hi, I have begun adding Google Earth coordinates for all these, will try to finish before the ennui sets in Cosnahang 12:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: This section (and it was presented as a main section, not as a subsection) seems completely irrelevant to a discussion of moot hills, so I am removing it here.  
:== Miscellany ==
:Serfdom was pre-feudal and had nothing to do with the feudal system. Scotland had abandoned serfdom by 1320 and was probably the first country in Europe to do so!The Scottish Genealogist
If it actually serves some purpose in this article, please splice it where it belongs. 71.204.204.249 12:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Serfdom"? 

message: This page has lots of citations; and some of those citations include links to external websites. Following those links, we can immediately see that many phrases, sentences, and whole paragraphs of this article are direct plagarism from those websites. 
Of course, this leads me to wonder about the books and other non-online sources cited— are there other phrases, sentences, and whole paragraphs directly plagarised from them? Quite possibly.
Apart from the copyright / academic honesty concerns raised (which are huge, and obvious), this also greatly takes away from the credibility of the article. 
:Self-righteous indignation is not a good way to approach editing!Rosser 10:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not stated as a fact. Have you read the section about Silbury Hill and the 'limnal' comment. Have a look at FlashEarth - a lot is revealed about the position of some moots in relation to water. Rosser 20:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Well 'Doops' - what actually is the problem? I write an interesting article & you object that it appears practically overnight, etc. It was created in a Sandbox & hatched out overnight. Please, be more constructive, objective and make helpful comments. If you are so upset about possible plagarism, then rewrite the sections. Surely a plagarised section gets spotted by a 'bot' anyway and you are told in no uncertain terms. Rosser 20:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The plagarism is patent and represents a blatant violation of other authors' copyright. I'd love to rewrite the whole article; but I don't have the time right this minute — but it absolutely needs to happen; the article can't stand as it is at present. Doops |  talk 22:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maxcorrigenda 

message: I understood these galleries to be deprecated in favour of link to Wiki Commons like this: 
Certainly the Ayreshire gallery really breaks the flow of the article and even seems to suggest a natural end.  I propose that it be removed in favour of a commons link.  How about "Moot hills in Ayreshire" (assuming that there is such a category in Commons - if not, make one. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ayreshire gallery 

message: The incorporation of all these Scottish assembly mounds into the term "moot hill" is not sound. The first reason is that "Moot Hill" is an English term, and though both the "Scots and the Picts" and the "English" has similar institutions, the term Moot is now used by historians in an ethnic way and implies an English institution. The second is that it doesn't give a role to the Comhdhaill (Couthil, Cuthil, etc), which has quite a lot written about it. Almost all of these hills under the Scotland section aren't diagnostically moot hills and shouldn't be in this article. I'd recommend the Scottish material is moved to something like Assembly mounds in Scotland; the author should do this. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 05:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Scotland

message: Thynghowe was an important Danelaw meeting place, located in Sherwood Forest, Nottinghamshire, England. It was lost to history until its rediscovery in 2005-6 by local history enthusiasts.
83.233.193.166 (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Thynghowe 

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message: The verb ‘meet’ is derived from the noun ‘moot’, not the other way around, via umlaut of the stem vowel triggered by the verb-forming suffix ‘-ian’. Other examples include ‘bleed’ from ‘blood’, ‘gild’ from ‘gold’, and ‘feed’ from ‘food’. I can revise the entry accordingly if that seems a good idea… 73.174.158.102 (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: I  from the article Moot hall as these are already covered here, with two exceptions: Dagenham and Godalming Hundred. The Dagenham article does not mention the moot. The section  mentions the moot and the location – but not the nature – of its meeting place. If there is additional information available, these hills could be added to this article. Ibadibam (talk) 17:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dagenham and Godalming