Talk:Latin Rite

message: We need an actual article here. Any takers? Wesley
I put it on Wikipedia:Pages_needing_attention/Religion. dab (ᛏ) 08:41, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs work

message: Although there is much confusion in the Wiki-verse about Catholic terminology, it really is not that confused in the real world. This article and general usage need to be clear on which we are talking about: the Latin/Roman Rite or the Latin/Roman Church sui iuris. The article titles need to clearly distinguish this as well (ref. "merge" conversation above). Latin Rite and Latin Church are two different things.
Accoding to the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches (CCEO), the definitions are:
 Church:  A group of Christian faithful united by a hierarchy according to the norm of law which the supreme authority of the Church expressly or tacitly recognizes as sui iuris is called in this Code a Church sui iuris.
CCEO 27'''
 Rite: A rite is the liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary patrimony, culture and circumstances of history of a distinct people, by which its own manner of living the faith is manifested in each Church sui iuris. 
CCEO 28.1'''
In other words - you belong to a church; you worship according to a particular rite. 
Please keep this distinction clear in editing, and in naming articles. Is this one meant to be about the particular church sui iuris? Then it is Latin (Catholic) Church or Roman (Catholic) Church. If it is about the worship style and tradition of the Roman Missal, then it is Latin Rite, or Roman Rite (ref. conversation on Latin v. Roman below).
Thanks! Protoclete (talk) 00:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rite v. Church (Latin Rite v. Latin Church)

message: UHH, THANKS, I guess, to whoever clipped& pasted me here from the RC article.
I am sure you mean well, but I'm a big feller now & can paste myself:-')
Opuscalgary 00:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  THE NAME GAME (AKA THE ROAD GOES ON FOREVER...) 

message: The first paragraph says "from antiquity to the Renaissance, Latin was the language of education and culture..."  I think that cuts off Latin much too early.   Latin was still used well into the 19th century.  For instance, when John Quincy Adams studied in Holland at university the courses were in Latin.  Also the Hapsburgs used Latin as the official language into the 19th century, if memory serves.  It may have started petering out but the use of Latin die off that quickly right after the Renaissance?  I turn to others with more knowledge then me.--Bruce Hall 11:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of Latin ended at the Renaissance? 

message: Much better...or at least I "get it" now. --SECisek (talk) 21:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: In the opening section it reads The Latin Rite or Latin Church is the majority rite (in the sense of "church", not of "liturgical tradition")[1] or particular church within the Catholic Church, comprising roughly 80% of its membership. while later in the article it states The Latin Church or Rite is now present in all continents and is the majority rite or particular church within the Catholic Church, comprising approximately 98% of its more than 1.1 billion faithful.
Which is it?  80% or 98% Nik42 (talk) 17:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to add exactly this observation to this discussion page, but I see that Nik42 already has.  Since Nik42 pointed this contradiction out over 8 months ago and no knowledgable editor has made any correction, I feel it's better to have no reference to that figure than to have contradictory figures.  I will delete both references, and hope some editor with a reliable source will later re-insert the correct, internally consistent figure.  I wish I was that editor, but unfortunately I'm not.  —Ipoellet (talk) 00:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size? 

message: Why are Latin Rite and Latin rite treated differently? And why regard "Latin Rite" as anything other than a synonym for "Latin liturgical rite"? Srnec (talk) 13:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the heads up on Latin rite; I hadn't noticed the case-sensitive issue and will redirect to Latin Rite. Additionally, "Latin Rite" has long been used as a synonym for the Latin Church—yes, it's a misnomer, hence my multi-year effort to disambiguate the term in articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I took the liberty of also redirecting Latin rites here. Veverve (talk) 14:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will look into the links for that one. Maybe more likely that the plural form would be generally referential to the liturgical rites, but I agree with your redirect. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have also retargeted Latin rite (disambiguation) here. Veverve (talk) 14:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Should we consider deleting that one? ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:09, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be kept. Veverve (talk) 17:30, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes