Talk:Once Upon a Time in the West

message: I came to OUATITW specifically to find out where it was filmed.
Anyone reviewing, who knows it might be a good thing to add. thanks anyway —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.192.144 (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Where was it filmed?

message: Do we really need two Fair Use images just to illustrate what the actors look like in their roles? We can already see this in the movie poster provided. They really don't add enough to justify their inclusion. Unless anyone can give me a substantial reason for them being here, I'm going to nominate them for deletion. Thanks, Lithoderm 05:07, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Hiya! Just watched the restored Blu-ray version and checked the following point by advancing frame by frame:
The current plot section states that Harmonica's older brother kicks him away and thus gets hung on the village bell. There is no indication of Harmonica being kicked away; rather he collapses from exhaustion, which was kind of the point of making Harmonica part of the execution of his brother. If you watch frame by frame you'll see that his brothers feet do not make any kind of kicking movement, Harmonica just crumbles away from beneath him.
And to be honest, I've never before heard or read anyone say otherwise. But me reviewing the movie could be borderline OR, so if anybody else has the movie and wants to check this out as well, please do. I won't be making any changes either way, my position is clear and I'll leave it to the active editors to discuss this and reach a consensus.
Cheers! 188.107.120.232 (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Have noticed the same thing: Harmonica bears a dubious guilt, be Frank the true killer. Harmonica's brother does not kick him. dino (talk) 22:46, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error at the end of the plot section 

message: The introduction uses 2 hours and 46 minutes or 166 minutes for the "original version" later called "International Version" and "European version". The box and the "Releases" paragraph use 165 minutes. This is inconsistent with both naming and timing.
The box at the top uses "165 minutes (International Version)" later labeled "European release". The "European release" section does not mentioned that the version is 165-minute long. Also, the box does not list the 145-minute "American release" version. Moreover, the "Director's cut" version says "more recent home video releases have used the international cut" but the box never uses "international" but rather "European". The box and the "Director's cut" paragraph should be consistent with the naming.
I think the "Releases" paragraph should list the versions from the longest to the shortest.
There is no explanation behind the low box office sales in the U.S.A. It would be nice to add that information. The movie in France, if not the rest of Europe, did well.
ICE77 (talk) 09:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments on versions 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The end of the introduction section states "The film is now generally acknowledged as a masterpiece and one of the greatest films ever made." The cited reference supports this using the opinion of a single movie reviewer. I think "generally acknowledged as a masterpiece" is too strong when only supported by a single opinion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuchenmeister58 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: "Once upon a Time in the West, Italian western film, released in 1968, that was considered by many to be Sergio Leone's operatic masterpiece."  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Once-upon-a-Time-in-the-West Chrisrushlau (talk) 02:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generally regarded claim 

message: The opening scene of The Train Robbers, 1973:
http://westernsontheblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-train-robbers-1973.html
First paragraph after the cast list.
It was tv in the UK yesterday, at the time of writing, and I thought of OUATITW straight away.
Middle More Rider (talk) 15:52, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Train Robbers references this film 

message: The Italian title seems to suggest that the very concept of "the West" is a fairy tale. The US title suggests that the story is a particular fairy tale without calling into question the "reality" of the West, even suggesting it was the kind of place in which mythic things could happen. Am I right? Starple (talk) 17:54, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, Starple, and welcome to Wikipedia. Per the policy advice at WP:NOTFORUM, it's not appropriate here for us to ponder the meaning of creative works. However, the original title is , which pretty much leads directly to the English "once upon a time", which we also use for our fairy tales. (This is in marked contrast to the German title,  ["Play me the song of death"].) I have no idea how Italian fairy tales traditionally begin. Perhaps Leone was playing with the mythos of the Old West. But if so, it's up to reliable sources to reveal (or debunk) the notion, and I'm not aware of any. We needn't wonder about it here. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 01:29, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: C'era una volta is the traditional start to Italian fairy tales. I was raising the point because it is interesting to know Leone's attitude to the West. I am not competent to change the article on the basis of my knowledge so I put it here in case someone else can provide a reliable source to add to the article itself. It seems to me that was an appropriate use of the talk section. Try not to be a prig, JohnFromPickney. Starple (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I try to not be a  of undesirable things, Starple. And while I agree it  be interesting to know Leone's attitude, idly pondering it here, as I thought you wanted to do, is inappropriate. Not everybody who edits a talk page knows about NOTFORUM and TPG, so I was trying to point to them. And after all, I  respond to you. Happy editing,— JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 03:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The West is a fairy tale? 

message: Jason Robards played Morton the crooked Railroad man, Lee Marvin played Cheyenne. 184.99.186.75 (talk) 01:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: All the reliable sources, including the film's credits, say that Robards played Cheyenne. Gabriele Ferzetti played Morton. DonQuixote (talk) 13:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

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