Talk:Hougoumont

message: From the second paragraph:
... second battalion of the regiment of foot guards, part of General Byng's Brigade of Guards ...
An earlier version capitalized foot ("Foot guards") in the first portion, and then guards ("brigade of Guards") in the second portion.
The phrase "foot guards" seemed to refer to a type of regiment, not a particular regiment, so I decapitalized the word foot in my recent edit.
Brigade of Guards may be a proper name; I capitalized brigade in my recent edit, but that may also be incorrect.
Someone more familiar with the forces that participated in the battle would be better-equipped to determine which of these should be capitalized, if any. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Warpflyght (talk • contribs)  02:49, 18 July 2005  (UTC)
:The edits seem fine to me and as the original author I am glad that at least one other person has read it :-) --Philip Baird Shearer 08:31, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Foot Guards and the Brigade of Guards are proper nouns referring collectively to the guard infantry portions of the British Army. the Household Cavalry is the proper name for the mounted portion of the guards contingent. Winterbadger (talk) 11:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005

message: : The name "Hougoumont" is derived from "Gomme Mont" which means "Gum hill".
I'm skeptical of this; is there a source?  The words gomme and mont are French but combining them in that order is very un-French, and the first syllable is unexplained. —Tamfang (talk) 02:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See below. Moonraker12 (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  etymology 

message: It would be nice to display an image of the painting  Closing of the gates at Hougoumont by Robert Gibb -- PBS (talk) 18:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but there are several paintings of the topic. There was a very well known Victorian picture, widely reproduced as an engraving, and there is Robert Gibb's picture, both are out of copyright. Paul B (talk) 18:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closing of the gates at Hougoumont 

message: removed from the article:
The two sentences have been in the article for years and a "citation needed" has been there for over five years. So I have moved it here so that it is not in article space but anyone interested can still be informed that it exists and needs a source before it is put back into the lead. -- PBS (talk) 22:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See below. Moonraker12 (talk) 15:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gum hill 

message: I've deleted a chunk of the text in this section, as it is original research, unsupported by the sources given. It was added in June 2015, just after the gum tree story (above) was removed, and claims, without evidence, that the original name was Hogeberg, and cites a work by M Gysseling that mentions neither Hougoumont, nor Goumont, nor Hogeberg, and gives a page number for a different place entirely (Hooglede) which is nowhere near Waterloo.
The Fr WP page (which has the same fanciful bollocks, added on the same day by the same editor), also examines the gum tree story, which it attributes to a journalist called La Mayeur, but says it was dismissed by Logie as incorrect; and a claim by Victor Hugo in Les Miserables (p277) that it derives from a nobleman (also called Hugo). 
I’ve added some detail from there which does seem to have some support, that the name is a late corruption of Goumont, and which can be attested. I trust everyone is OK with that, Moonraker12 (talk) 15:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You very well know the fieldname ‘Hougoumont’ is (without shadow) an Frenchified overname onto an original Dutch/Flemish name. The aforesaid should be byworded. 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:45A1:F89B:B551:B329 (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology, again