Talk:Igloo

message: Are there austrailian sand igloos still around?
169.231.11.70 20:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sand Igloos 

message: Apparently some igloos were/are a lot bigger than what a lot of people picture them as being.
Gringo300 07:57, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I seen pictures of groups of igloos were most are the usual "family" size but one is MUCH larger, looking kind of like a "town hall" or so. Seemed to be big enough for the people from all the other igloos to meet in. However I have no idea if that is usual. Although, since that is how people all over the world have built and still build their villages / tent groups / whatever it seems to be part of human nature and it wouldn't surprise me if the inuits often did the same. But I guess we have to wait until some inuit surfs in here and tells us the facts. :)) --David Göthberg 17:32, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bigger igloos 

message: 64.231.26.84 wrote: "After the snow is piled up it must sit for a couple of hours for the snow flakes to interlock."
I sort of disagree. When me and my friends build our snowhouses we simply compact the snow by banging our spades or hands on it which takes a minute or so. Then it is compacted enough to start digging out the interior imediately. (Or in our case cutting out the door and pulling out the cardboard boxes.) We should perhaps add that to the text in some way. And note, when you build an emergency shelter you don't have the time to sit and wait some hours for the snow to compact...
The trick with sticks to indicate wall thickness is new to me but seems nice, I sure will try it next time I build a snow house. We usually use our "intuition" and sometimes if we fail and cause a hole in the wall or roof we simply repair it and add some snow on the outside to make the wall thicker again. But since we usually use cardboard boxes we only round of the walls from the inside, we don't really dig out the interior so we mostly have no problem with missjudging wall thickness. Oh, and a note about sturdiness: Our snowhouses usually survive all winter (several months) even when the kids climb on them etc. So they are usually sturdy enough if we leave the walls thick enough or if we "cheat" and pour water over the house.
--David Göthberg 06:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other kinds of snowhouses 

message: "In some cases a single block of ice was inserted to allow light into the igloo."
Should this not read a block of ice is omitted to allow light in? catParade 03:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the sentence is correct. Note that igloos are mainly built from blocks of snow, not from blocks of ice. However, ice lets light through, snow does not. So if you instead of one of the blocks of snow use a block of ice it lets light in. The effect usually becomes similar to bathroom windows that lets light through but that aren't really transparent. The reason that usually only one block of ice is used (only one window) is that ice does not heat isolate as good as snow does. So building mostly from ice would make the igloo a very cold place to live in. --David Göthberg 08:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Freshwater ice, too, as salt is much more opaque. A really good idea if anyone is going to do fine needlework inside. HLHJ (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light 

message: Did/do inuits use igloos as regular homes or only on travel or when surprized by a blizzard? Had they other types of buildings/tents for other purposes? 130.225.127.185 08:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Today there are no Inuit that would use an igloo as a regular home, it's hard to mount the satellite dish to snow. All Inuit live in a house of some sort, the same as any other people in North America or the western world. Not all Inuit built igloos but those that did had different types (see the article under "Types of igloo") and some were used as semi-permanent dwellings. Yes they did have other types of dwellings. For some reason a lot of people don't realise that the snow does melt in the Arctic summer. For those Inuit who did use igloos they would also have some sort of tent for the summer. This would be constructed using wood (if found) or whalebone/antlers covered in caribou. Good picture here and the google search for inuit tents. Today very few Inuit would even bother making an igloo at all, too much work and not always easy to find the correct type of snow. Most would use a canvas tent with home made wooden poles. There would be a small one (sleeps 2 or 3) for use when it's cold or out hunting and only needed for a night or two. A larger one for the spring fishing trips when it's only -20C and you go with the whole family, could sleep up to 6. Both types of tent would have some sort of extra cover that could be put over the outside to help retain heat. Caribou skins or a longer lasting cover made from thick blankets. The tent is heated with the 4th item on this page, running one on a slow burn keep a small tent warm all night at -35C. By the way the word is Inuk - singular and Inuit - plural not Inuits. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Igloos in culture 

message: What is the plural of igloo? Is it igloos or igli?--Lerdthenerd 08:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Oxford Dictionary states that plural of igloo is igloos. And the Google test confirms that. --David Göthberg 20:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plural of igloo? 

message: This article seems to use an unusual amount of past tense for a structure that can be built by nearly anyone. Is this meant to imply that igloos are now somehow rare? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 07:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past Tense? 

message: Is there a special reason why this has  applied to it? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as you can see through out the article igloo is used instead of Igloo, so I decided to lowercase it.-- iDosh!  talk? 13:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that is correct though. There are many articles which are capitalised only when used at the start of a sentence but do not include . See Home, House, Elephant and Pig for some examples. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that since igloo is not a proper noun but just a noun it should capitalized ? I'm not sure what do you guys think? -- iDosh!  talk? 03:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, although "igloo" is not a proper noun, it should be capitalized for the name of the article. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Lower case first letter for examples of when it should be used. I'll change it now. --pbroks13talk? 22:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lowercase? 

message: Hello, I have been trying to keep the images size at a non-default size because the diagram needs to be bigger than the image above it, the provisional igloo; while this one does not require as much image size. In addition the MOS clearly states that If an image displays satisfactorily at the default size, it is recommended that no explicit size be specified. Of course since in this case the images does not display satisfactory they should have specific sizes. I'm sorry for the delay but I had an emergency and I had to go. Thank you for your understanding, -- iDosh!  talk? 15:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a problem with the diagram being larger to make it clearer. However the Quinzhee is not a real igloo and is now the main image on opening the page. It's displays quite well at the default size. In fact I'm not even sure that it adds to the page but might be better off in the gallery. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 23:33, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not a manual. The article should certainly have more than photographs, but details of construction steps probably don't belong. --skew-t (talk) 02:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: The Icebox from Grand Shelters is one tool I've found for making it much easier to build an igloo, especially when the snow on the ground isn't the proper consistency to cut blocks from. Are there any other similar tools available? I remember a plastic box mold from the late 1970's or early 1980s, intended for children to build small igloos. I don't recall anything more than that. Bizzybody (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Igloo building tools

message: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2005691861/
--Craigboy (talk) 05:09, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I see it's now in the article. Thanks, Craigboy. HLHJ (talk) 01:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good image that within the next two years will be in the public domain 

message: I removed the sections referring to the Nanook film and another section which consisted of a single statement about survival in snow storms.  I don't think that either of these sections added any value to the article; or at least not worthy of being denoted separate sections.. arguably it may be worth noting the film within another section of the article.  David Condrey  log talk  01:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Nanook and survival sections

message: There are some problems with the equations in the Engineering section.  After the equation for stress, it says "where d is the diameter at the base, h the height, y the unit weight of the snow, and a = arc tan 4h/d".  But y and a do not appear in the equation.  I'm guessing that a is meant to be \alpha and y is meant to be \gamma.  More importantly, I don't understand the \mathrm{S}\alpha on the left side of the equation.  If  \mathrm{S} is meant to represent stress, what is the \alpha doing there?  Is it supposed to be \mathrm{S}(\alpha), S as a function of \alpha?  \alpha is itself a function of h and d, so it seems strange to express it this way.
Then later in the paragraph it says "The maximum compressive stress at the base of the igloo can be obtained by multiplying S,/yd times the  snow unit weight y and the mean  igloo base  diameter."  What is the comma doing after the S?  Is it just a typo?  If we ignore the comma, this is saying that S/yd multiplied by yd is equal to S, which is a trivial algebraic identity.  Is it trying to say something more than that?  And why "mean" base diameter?  It's not suggested anywhere else in this section that the base may not be circular. Mnudelman (talk) 17:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engineering 

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message: Would it be acceptable to expand the article to include how Igloos are constructed if you are not in the arctic, and general information about Igloos not created by Inuits? Or is that not in the scope of this article. Dysklyver 15:50, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

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message: An igloo (Inuit languages: iglu,[1] Inuktitut syllabics ᐃᒡᓗ [iɣˈlu] (plural: igluit ᐃᒡᓗᐃᑦ [iɣluˈit])), also known as a snow house or snow hut, is a type of shelter built of snow, typically built when the snow can be easily compacted.
Although igloos are stereotypically associated with all Inuit/Eskimo peoples,[2] they were traditionally associated with people of Canada's Central Arctic and Greenland's Thule area. Other Inuit people tended to use snow to insulate their houses, which were constructed from whalebone and hides. Snow is used because the air pockets trapped in it make it an insulator. On the outside, temperatures may be as low as −45 °C (−49 °F), but on the inside the temperature may range from −7 °C (19 °F) to 16 °C (61 °F) when warmed by body heat alone.[3]
add a comma after inside  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.164.217 (talk) 00:50, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, 64.231.164.217. Thanks, I've done that; welcome to Wikipedia! Next time, do please feel you can be bold; we'd love to have your help proofreading. HLHJ (talk) 01:14, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: hi

message: This is an informative account, and for the time unusually unobnoxious (the author is of the opinion that Inuit are equal to Europeans, except ease of access to a variety of resources, and thinks his own prejudices may kill him in the Arctic, so he makes an effort). Note on the language; modern Netsilik Inuit may well strongly dislike being called "Eskimo".
These accounts are long, and while they are public-domain, I am not sure they belong it the article, although I have cited them on traditional building practices and put the former one in "Further reading". There must be some more modern first-person accounts, at least of hunting igloos, by people who know how to build them a bit better than Roald Amundsen. Suggestions? HLHJ (talk) 00:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical (c.1904) European account

message: Do we really need the esoteric math formula and explanation in the Construction section? As far as I can tell, the sources do not really refer to an igloo, and I doubt very seriously that Inuit really use (or care about) such a formula; if they do, that needs to be reliably sourced. This seems to be WP:SYN that reaches conclusions about an igloo that are not specifically stated in the sources. And that even raises the possibility that the formula and description don't even describe a typical igloo. I looked at other articles about structures (such as Skyscraper) and did not see such technical trivia. I don't mean this to be directed at anyone who added these details to the article, but it seems rather pedantic. This is an encyclopedia article about an igloo, not a course in engineering. Sundayclose (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree that it brings little to he article. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 07:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engineering formula