Talk:Petronius

message: I heard an interesting anecdote about how Petronius commited suicide.  Supposedly he fell out of favor with Nero, so at the begining of one evening he slit his wrists and tied off his vein with a turniquette.  He invited his friends over and told jokes, and whenever they didn't laugh he let out a little blood.  Sounds very funny and classy, and I heard this from an intelligent person, but I can't be sure if it's true. Citizen Premier 15:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The date's wrong and the name's wrong. Otherwise, it's a nice quote. Had Petronius been born in the 20th century and joined a basketball team, he might well have said this shortly before slitting his wrists. Andrew Dalby 09:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: anecdotes

message: There are some lovely lyric poems attributed to Petronius. Since they only survive in medieval manuscripts, most scholars think they're not really his. But it's rather pleasant to imagine that he had a gentle lyrical side. Tom129.93.17.66 04:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other works than Satyricon attrbuted to Petronius

message: I don't think the last link to a St. Petronius in the Catholic Encyclopedia is correct.  I'm going to remove it.
Matthæus (talk) 01:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: St. Petronius?

message: Removed reference to Have Gun Will Travel; if that entire episode had been a retelling of the Satyricon, this might be defensible; since it is merely a mention of it, it seems trivial in the extreme, of interest only to dedicated fans both of Petronius and of the TV show. Country Wife (talk) 23:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: In Film section

message: What on earth is this line about "He was also described as a top jewish neek by Juvenal and Negro (Nero)."  Saboteur at work?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.53.142 (talk) 21:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted this ridiculous edit.--Noe (talk) 22:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment moved from top

message: The article currently has Traditionally this reference is linked with Joshuus Ellius. I've never heard of Joshuus Ellius; Google finds no references to him except in pages derived from this article.
Who, if he actually existed, was Joshuus Ellius? I feel that either we should provide a reference, or delete the sentence. --Kay Dekker (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joshuus Ellius? 

message: Unfortunately it is obvious that this page has been heavily sabotaged.  Some evidence has already been cited.  Let me also point out that the reference to cannabis in the first quote from Tacitus is also spurious-- at least it does not occur in any other version of the text that I have seen:
Nam illi dies per somnum, nox officiis et oblectamentis vitae transigebatur; utque alios industria, ita hunc ignavia ad famam protulerat, habebaturque non ganeo et profligator, ut plerique sua haurientium, sed erudito luxu. Ac dicta factaque eius quanto solutiora et quandam sui neglegentiam praeferentia, tanto gratius in speciem simplicitatis accipiebantur...
Nor is "Joshuus Ellius" a proper Latin form, and even apart from the fact that it is here inserted  in a way that makes no sense whatever, one must suspect some further nanky-poo.
It is dificult to tell (given this mangling) whether this article ever had much to recommend it; but clearly it stands it is worse than useless.  As has already been pointed out, it fails to distinguish among the various Petronii (Nero's courtier, the author of the Satyricon, the author(s) of the lyrics, the consul suffectus of 62 or thereabouts, and others).
In fact it fails to mention the lyrics at all.  
Some of the material, furthermore, is not only very speculative, but also both anachronistic and political in a way that I for one find unacceptable in an encyclopaedia article ("his homophobic parents").  But of course this may be no more than further sabotage.
This article clearly needs to rewritten on a blank page by someone who knows more about the subject than I do.
Mjhrynick (talk) 14:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the vandalism you refer to seems to have happened in this edit, so I restore the version previous to that edit. It may not solve all problems, but is ceratinly an improvement.--Nø (talk) 14:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabotage 

message: What power has law where only money rules.
--Pawyilee (talk) 14:29, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation 

message: We seem to be assuming that the Roman courtier Gaius Petronius (whom la.wp redirects to Publicus Petronius Niger) is the same as the author of Satyrica, who was only identified as Petronius or Titus Petronius and by contemporaries as Petronius Arbiter or T. Petronius Arbiter.  The article Satyricon does not make this assumption.  Do we have a reference that establishes this?  Otherwise, we should move the material on the work to Satyricon or eliminate it and make this article about the courtier as la.wp does.  Do we even have a good reference to the name Gaius Petronius Arbiter? la.wp doesn't even redirect that name.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 15:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaius ?= Petronius Arbiter :reference? 

message: The first paragraph seems to disagree with Satyricon, which (1) claims that the Satyricon is not a novel, and (2) says it's questionable whether it was satirical or not.
Crasshopper (talk) 05:06, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  satirical novel? 

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