Talk:U2 discography

message: Should 145 Million be updated? It was based on LiveNations press release in 2008 and appeared to exclude their live and compilation albums. Also, Bono and Edge's bios on the official website for Spiderman (http://spidermanonbroadway.marvel.com/) mention 170 million BEFORE the release of NLOTH, which would make a 175 Million figure reasonable and a 170 Million figure conservative.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.200.27.7 (talk) 17:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Sales Information

message: Um, Rattle and Hum is 90% live; why is it listed under studio albums?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.28.147.183 (talk) 09:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly; only 6 of Rattle and Hum's 17 tracks are live; 7 if you count "The Star Spangled Banner" excerpt. That's well below even 50%. Since the vast majority is studio material, it is listed as a studio album (there isn't really a category for a combination between the two that we can use). Unless you're refering to the film, in which case it also has an entry under the Videography. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 15:20, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rattle and Hum

message: I am fairly certain that there weren't 3 videos made for Vertigo, and I think some of the other numbers of videos made are wrong too. Could someone verify this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.30.8 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: # of videos made

message: What's about the 1980 Live LP "No Surrender"?
Look here for Details: http://www.croportal.net/forum/glazba/u2-no-surrender-live-1980-a-13009/
THX
:It's a bootleg. --typhoon 17:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 

message: Hi. I kind of messed up the album bit, by moving "Original Soundtracks No. 1 [Passengers]." Can someone please revert it to the previous edit?
Thanks.
Done. --Kristbg 21:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Messed Up 

message: EPs are extended-play singles, so they go under the Singles header. Also, not all of their regular singles were necessarily hits.
--typhoon 19:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomenclature 

message: I've put up entries for every U2 single released. There's not much info on the pages right now, so please help me fill 'em up! Check the entry for If God Will Send His Angels for an example (thanks Typhoon!) --Kristbg 04:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles 

message: updated info for Original of species reference http://www.u2wanderer.org/disco/pr058.html Hyperfeedback 00:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  other

message: I've done basic entires for the live video releases. Can someone add them to the U2 box which appears at the bottom of u2 related articles. Havent figured it out yet!. Probably best goes in "Live and other projects" section Hyperfeedback 11:42, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All video entries are now updated and added to Template:U2. I also added some producers, like Flood and Jimmy Iovine. --Kristbg 14:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video

message: I think I'm going to try switching some of the headers to the gallery layout to save some space, since this page is getting pretty big. The albums will stay like they are (since it's handy to have all the album songs right there to search).
--typhoon 23:56, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, great job! --Kristbg 01:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I love the gallery layout. It's easy to follow and looks great! Underneath-it-All 21:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery 

message: Is it really necessary to include chart positions from these countries?  I don't think they're very helpful at gauging the success of a U2 single; I think it would be better to use the space to include positions on the Modern Rock Tracks or Mainstream Rock Tracks charts, or to remove the columns altogether.
Acegikmo1 22:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. --Kristbg 00:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To me it's more logical to include more countries to show the worldwide succes than to show more American charts... But to solve all problems, isn't it better to only include English and American charts on this page, and make a seperate U2 chart positions page, where the Swiss, Austrian, Latvian, Dutch, Modern Rock and Mainstream rock and other charts can be listed? This would make sense to me. (I read this comment about Switzerland and Austria only after I included the Dutch positions...) Pie.er 14:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Switzerland and Austria? 

message: "Everlasting love" did chart as a single, although only in the Netherlands.
Chart positions, starting week 1 in 1990: 26-17-12-10-15-22-38. I believe (but I'm not sure) it charted as the B-side of the 7 version of "All I Want Is You".
But it definitely charted under a different name than "All I Want Is You", which charted 6 months earlier and only reached 12th place.
I don't consider it U2's greatest achievement, but facts are facts: it charted as a single. Pie.er 08:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that it charted doesn't make it a single. It was never issued as a standalone single, only as a B-Side (and as a bonus cassette in Australia ). Many songs by many artists spend some time in charts without ever being released as singles. U2's own "Until the End of the World" is an example of this (see the Achtung Baby talk page). --Kristbg 13:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I am happy enough not to have it, but i dont really understand how it can chart if it is not a single. If it is not  single, there are no sale, so what is actually charting? how do they calculate a position. incidently, around this time U2's Everlasting Love got heaps of playback on radio. People loved it. The Australian release of the All I Want is You single was delayed for the Lovetown tour. Even more so, the original Sweetest Thing (as B side) was an even bigger radio hit. people were ringing in for months and was played several time daily. OK, i will stop giving you all interesting but unimportant trivia --Merbabu 22:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Everlasting Love 

message: I've rated this as being of 'top' importance for the U2 project - see banner above. But i struggled to give it a B quality as referencing is quite poor. Merbabu 04:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: Does anyone know if Instant Karma will be released ever?CRBR 19:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About Instant Karma...

message: Would it be possible to include a column of album art, or would that not fall under Fair Use for Wikipedia? Ank329 20:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Art 

message: I've temporarily hidden "The Ballad of Ronnie Drew" inside of an inline note. I originally removed it entirely, but decided that an inline note would be of better purpose.  This is stemming from my confusion of what qualifies as a U2 single.  "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", "The Saints Are Coming", and "One" with MJB are all listed.  However, other collaborations such as "Do They Know It's Christmas?" are not.
What exactly qualifies for inclusion on this list, and should "The Ballad of Ronnie Drew" be among those that are listed? MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: U2 discography Well, U2 didn't appear on that single. If they had, I imagine it would have been included. It is not on the list just like the Mission Impossible theme song is not on the list - it was only performed by members of U2, not the band itself. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification. MelicansMatkin (talk) 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Ballad of Ronnie Drew

message: While reverting some vandalism, I noticed that the peak positions on the Irish charts seem unusually low for the band; on looking at the reference provided, the earliest date this album provides positions for is 2004; meaning that for an album like The Unforgettable Fire, it's talking about the highest position it reached between 2003 and 2009 (which coincides with the Croke Park dates on the Vertigo Tour I believe), as opposed to the highest position between 1984 and 2009. Is there any way this can be remedied?  I wouldn't know where to begin looking for an alternate source. MelicansMatkin (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately aCharts seems to be the only online reliable source that has any chart positions for U2's albums. Of the other online reliable sources; Irish-charts.com doesn't show any chart positions for U2, ChartTrack only goes back as far as 2000, and IRMA's site only has singles in the archive. So unless a printed source can be found that has the original positions, we'll have to stick with what we've got per WP:V: verifiability, not truth. --JD554 (talk) 08:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've found a great site with more charting positions than before, although sadly no charts before 2000 here (it's irish charts but a different section. Dt128 (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Read the comments above on why this is the case, and read WP:V. Removal of sourced content is unacceptable and will result in vandalism warnings if it continues. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 02:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish charts..? 

message: This site might be very helpful in getting most names. I have other jobs on wiki or I'd do it myself. Suede67 (talk) 12:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video directors 

message: I don't think that NLOTH has sold 5 million copies. According to MediaTraffic.de, it sold 3.000.000+. HC 5555 (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched that website and could not find any sales figures for NLOTH. Unless it's explicitly stated somewhere in there, the 5 million figure is the best source we've got.Shkee23 (talk) 17:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Line On The Horizon sales 

message: I think that for the release formats, we should stick with the formats that originally released.  Otherwise, as new formats come out, they will all be re-released eventually, so I think it's more relevant to simply mention how it was originally released.  The way its being done now, we could list every single album as available as a digital download.  This link here is a great book source for original format releases. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release formats 

message: This lead needs to be re-worked. In its current form it's just a re-hash of the U2 article. The quick fix is to delete to a one-sentence "This is" sentence, but ideally some work could go into it to make it more like The Beatles discography, the lead of which actually discusses the discography, record releases, etc, and is not merely a summary of the band's history. any takers? --Merbabu (talk) 22:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead... 

message: Perhaps we should add "Kindergarten", the "alternative" version of Achtung Baby now being release at the end of the month in the Super Deluxe and Uber editions of Achtung Baby? - I would of thought "no" because it's part of another release - but all the Complete U2 bonus albums are listed (etc. Early Demos, Point Depot) and these can not be bought seperately - so i can't see any reaso not to add Kindergarten-TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 16:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we therefore add the "Uber" and "Unter" discs also? Melicans (talk, contributions) 18:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd of thought so --TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 11:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kindergarten 

message: With all the activity going on with other U2 articles, we should get this to FL status soon.  Of course, it does need some work.  I have a bunch of improvements in mind, but I'd like some feedback first before I implement any major changes.  Here's what I'd like to discuss:
*Remove MDH soundtrack – Only three of the 16 songs on the soundtrack are credited to U2 (one of which was previously released, so only two "original" songs).  Bono himself appears on another three tracks, but the majority of the songs do not feature U2.  This is merely a soundtrack that features U2, not a soundtrack by U2  (compared to Soundtrack from the Film More, which was entirely done by Pink Floyd).
*Remove catalogue numbers – Releases of the same album in different countries may have different catalogue numbers, especially when more than one edition of an album is released.  Mentioning them all would be out of the question, so getting rid of them altogether would be best.
*Split videography into new page – About 1/3 of the page already is videography, so there's sufficient content to warrant a second page.  Red Hot Chili Peppers discography (which is a featured list) splits the bands videography into a second page.
*Categorize fan club albums exclusively – Although fan club releases are a combination of live albums, compilations, and remix albums, I think putting them in their own section would be best.  Since they are not commercially available, they do not chart, there is no sales records of them, and they should just be kept separate.
*Create "Internet albums" section – This would be for all digital-only releases, which is a parameter in 
*Create "B-sides" section – I'm kinda "iffy" about this one, but just thought I'd mention it since it's also in the  template (just for otherwise unreleased studio tracks, not remixes or live songs that have appeared on albums).
–Dream out loud (talk) 18:41, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm actually surprised that this isn't a FL already; I could have sworn there was one attached to the WikiProject. I agree with all except the last of your suggestions. With the exception of the two Best Of's (which are already covered), there hasn't been a B-sides album release. I think that would be better represented in List of U2 songs. Another note: all the chart peaks will have to be double checked. In the past we've tried to check and revert when it has been changed from what the sources say, but I'm 100% positive that some slipped through the cracks somewhere in this page's history. Melicans (talk, contributions) 19:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Further complicating things is that there are so many charting peaks that can't be reliably sourced (e.g. the info is only available on fan sites or the like). FYI, the featured list you are thinking of is List of awards received by U2. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk •  contributions) 19:57, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I could do without the B-sides section.  I just thought I'd throw it out there.  But I'm glad to see that there's an agreement on the other suggestions.  I may get working on it this weekend. –Dream out loud (talk) 22:16, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's get this to FL 

message: Are the Belgian chart positions the ones from Flanders or Wallonia region? For example, the chart position for "Ordinary Love" is from Wallonia, but the source for the entire "BEL" column is for Flanders region. It's a total mess, so I've decided to remove this column from singles section. Plus the max. number of countries should be 10 per WP:DISCOGSTYLE, so the entire table has far too many countries — we need to trim it down further. — Mayast (talk) 15:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: To trim that number down to 13, I'll also remove US alternative and mainstream rock – Billboard Hot 100 is enough. But we'll need to choose 3 other countries to remove from the table. — Mayast (talk) 15:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I will have to disagree with the removal of the Billboard rock charts. The WP:DISCOGSTYLE guideline also says, "There is no set inclusion criteria for which charts should and shouldn't be included, but a good rule of thumb is to go by the relative success of the artist on that chart." Considering the amount of charting the band has done on those charts, I would strongly argue for it to be included. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk •  contributions) 16:54, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I honestly don't care if this particular chart is included or not, but we need to have a discussion about which 10 charts should stay, and remove all the others. Right now there are 13 charts, so if you would like to keep US mainstream rock we still need to find 4 countries to be removed, instead of 3.I would start with saying that IRE, UK and US (Billboard Hot 100) definitely need to stay, and that I probably wouldn't miss FIN, SWE, SWI or AUT (where U2 didn't have many top 10 and no. 1 hits). There weren't many hits in France, too, but it's one of the largest music markets, so I'm not sure if it should be kept, or not.BTW, a similar operation should be done with album charts section, where currently 15 charts are included. — Mayast (talk) 17:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In case anyone would like to check how the singles section looked prior to my recent edits, here's a link: . — Mayast (talk) 17:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I don't necessarily disagree with removing a few countries/charts, but I would like to point out that the guideline says, "A limit of approximately 10 separate charts is suggested". I think for a band like U2, one of the most prominent groups in the world, it can be argued that an exception could be made. I'd like to see what others think. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk •  contributions) 19:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Most discography articles for "high-profile" artists stick to 10 charts, eg. Beyoncé, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Madonna albums/singles, Jay-Z, Metallica, Blur, Coldplay, Radiohead, Depeche Mode, Kings of Leon, etc. In some cases, eg. Sting and The Beatles, the number of charts for albums/singles is even lower, and in some other articles the discography tables haven't been updated to the new format yet (like Nirvana discography). By the "new format" I mean the format proposed in WP:DISCOGSTYLE#Samples, with an objective to follow WP:ACCESS. But I'm also curious what others think. — Mayast (talk) 20:33, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I also think that is some cases making an exception from Wiki guidelines is a good thing, but is there really any particular reason why we would need one here? ;) I think that with 10 charts we are perfectly capable of showing the band's success, while also not allowing the table to become too wide, cluttered and, as a result, less readable. Mayast (talk) 20:45, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mess with Belgian entries, [[WP:DISCOGSTYLE]] 

message: This list is too long for a valid navigation and article buildup. U2 has a vast discography and I believe its high time that we split the list into appropriate lists like: → U2 albums discography, U2 singles disocography and U2 videography. That way content would be preserved easily and is better suited for navigation. We have easy precedence of old acts like Michael Jackson albums discography, Madonna albums discography and Madonna singles discography for a heads up on how they are created. —IB [ Poke ] 13:13, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   Agreed --Jennica✿ talk / contribs 08:05, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:CONSPLIT]] 

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message: Is there a reason why these albums are not included in this discography? Charles Essie (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Live from the Point Depot]] and [[Live from Paris (U2 album)|Live from Paris]]

message: I added peaks from Billboard Alternative Songs, I'm just not quite sure how to add the reference, so I messed up a little. I'll make sure to add it later. I'm also going to add it to the 2000s list and 2010s list if its okay. -- SabreToothCat1134 05:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Added Alternative Song peaks]] 

message: Many songs missing from this section: Promo singles Zooropa (1993), Orginal of the Species (2006) off the top of my head. Additionally, many cuts like Wire (1984) and God Part II (1988) charted on the US Mainstream Rock chart.
Someone knowledgeable needs to seriously go through and edit this section. I wish I had the skills to do it. 68.175.59.44 (talk) 04:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional singles & other charted songs 

message: Per https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/u2-to-love-only-love-deep-dives-b-sides/ it seems like this is just a kind of branding of streaming-only remixes? Is this actually an "album"? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It is merely a program to reissue certain singles that were released in the pre-digital age, remastered and with all the B-sides. It doesn't warrant any mention on the discography. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk •  contributions) 17:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, that's what I figured. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to add ''U2 To Love and Only Love – Deep Dives and B-Sides''