Talk:U.S. Route 20 in New York

message: As I was finishing the route description, I noticed, among some other minor errors in the junction box, that it suggests that it's a ten-mile distance from the end of the NY 22 overlap to the MA state line. As this demonstrates, that's wildly inaccurate.
I added up all the county-mileage segments from the DOT PDF (which gives a two-mile distance for that curve) and came up with a total mileage of 363.33, which suggests that that's the only math error involved. But could someone else repeat the exercise? I don't think I should be the only one checking the work. Daniel Case (talk) 20:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll give it a look, since the entire junction list needs to be cleaned up anyway (case issues, punctuation, shield placement, and whatnot). --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 21:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think when I did that junction list (all in the course of one night, my apologies for other mistakes, it was also only my second list ever done) I combined data from the DOT file and some other source (Gribblenation, perhaps? I don't remember now) - but I seem to recall that there was a discrepancy between the two. Why I used the wrong length is anyone's guess though. Sorry. ClarkCT (talk) 05:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I just went through the mileposts and it looks like the miscalculation happened in the area where US 20 goes back and forth between Otsego and Herkimer Counties. It should be good to go now. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 21:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscalculation of total mileage? 

message: As I usually do after a route description, I am putting a list of pictures I think we need to adequately illustrate the article together. This time, for some, I'm adding topozone links in some cases to where I think would be good places to shoot from, since I can't be at all certain that I'll be able to get out to that region of the state and take pictures anytime soon (since my in-laws have now moved out of the Buffalo area). I would love to, and if anyone living up in WNY wants to put me (and, probably, my son) up for the sole purpose of giving me a reason to go up that way, I'll entertain proposals in email come warmer weather. But in the absence of certainty I can at least give guidance to others.
Right now we have four images:
*Seneca Falls: Not really sure if the second one (the approach from 414) is really all that encyclopedic. Downtown is a little better. For the time being they give us something to at least break up the text flow if nothing else.
*Central New York: The one I just grabbed off Flickr. Not quite sure where that was taken, and it's looking west along the road rather than east as I would prefer (paralleling the route description). But it is the type of "roadscape" I like to have.
*The Dunn Bridge. I wish I had had better conditions when taking that one, but the fact is it does the job.
===Pictures we should definitely have===
Mainly roadscapes, to illustrate the text describing the region in the accompanying sections.
*Lake Erie section. Something showing the long, straight stretches of road here, between towns. Preferably with minimal development aside the road. My best thought would be somewhere like here, near Ripley, where you might be able to get both the beach ridge and the lake in a panorama shot on a good day. In summer it would look marvelous. Take several pictures as a stitched panorama may be necessary.
*Buffalo area. The lower Transit Road strip somewhere between Route 400 and Lancaster. Shoot from the turn lane or the median (get out of your car, my cardinal rule for taking great road pictures), preferably getting a Tops in there along with all the traffic and other businesses lining the road.
*Genesee County. The sections in Alexander and Bethany where the road goes straight up and down hills and everyone from truckers to old ladies in Toyota Corollas drives about 85 mph because you just can't help yourself. I recall this spot as oferring a pretty good view of the next mile of road going all the way down, then up again. But there are others.
*Finger Lakes. No better shot would scream "Finger Lakes!" than some view of the road curving around the lakefront in Geneva, into Seneca County. I recall you have a nice, elevated view from near Hobart, about here.
*Downtown Auburn. Where the 5/20 duplex ends and the largest city on 20 to that point.
*Central New York. Southern Onondaga County has some great stretches for this, places where you can see long distances ahead up the great bends the road takes. Like here, just before Cardiff; Big Bend, just to the east; east of Pompey and here, just east of the county line.
*Leatherstocking. There's some similarly sweeping scenery in norther Schoharie and Otsego counties.
*Albany. Probably a residential neighborhood with Corning Tower rising in the back.
*The Route 9 overlap Commercial strip view in East Greenbush.
*Berkshires. One of those little valleys near the end. Daniel Case (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested pictures 

message: Mainly roadscapes, to illustrate the text describing the region in the accompanying sections.
*Lake Erie section. Something showing the long, straight stretches of road here, between towns. Preferably with minimal development aside the road. My best thought would be somewhere like here, near Ripley, where you might be able to get both the beach ridge and the lake in a panorama shot on a good day. In summer it would look marvelous. Take several pictures as a stitched panorama may be necessary.
*Buffalo area. The lower Transit Road strip somewhere between Route 400 and Lancaster. Shoot from the turn lane or the median (get out of your car, my cardinal rule for taking great road pictures), preferably getting a Tops in there along with all the traffic and other businesses lining the road.
*Genesee County. The sections in Alexander and Bethany where the road goes straight up and down hills and everyone from truckers to old ladies in Toyota Corollas drives about 85 mph because you just can't help yourself. I recall this spot as oferring a pretty good view of the next mile of road going all the way down, then up again. But there are others.
*Finger Lakes. No better shot would scream "Finger Lakes!" than some view of the road curving around the lakefront in Geneva, into Seneca County. I recall you have a nice, elevated view from near Hobart, about here.
*Downtown Auburn. Where the 5/20 duplex ends and the largest city on 20 to that point.
*Central New York. Southern Onondaga County has some great stretches for this, places where you can see long distances ahead up the great bends the road takes. Like here, just before Cardiff; Big Bend, just to the east; east of Pompey and here, just east of the county line.
*Leatherstocking. There's some similarly sweeping scenery in norther Schoharie and Otsego counties.
*Albany. Probably a residential neighborhood with Corning Tower rising in the back.
*The Route 9 overlap Commercial strip view in East Greenbush.
*Berkshires. One of those little valleys near the end. Daniel Case (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures we should definitely have

message: *Ralph Wilson Stadium. There are many pictures of it but none from the Route 20 side. One showing the road and the way it stands out from there would be great. A game-day pic with traffic and lots of red and blue would be ideal, but right now that will have to wait till next fall, I think
*The 20/63 junction. It's not at right angles, making it visually interesting to begin with. If we can get a picture of some trucks waiting at or turning through the junction, it'll make the point about heavy truck use of the route. We might also be able to use it in the NY 63 article, too.There's some higher ground to the southwest, so if you stood like so you could get a really good picture if you were patient enough.
*A 5/20 sign. Ubiquitous along that overlap. I normally dislike sign pics as inherently unencylopedic and showing nothing unless there's something unique about the sign, or the road as indicated by the sign, that's discussed in the accompanying text (see how this image is used), but this could fill some dead space and underscore the way it's referred to by both route names. Daniel Case (talk) 15:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures we probably should have, but aren't absolutely essential

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message: It's odd that I can find no mention of the Silver Creek truck route on NYSDOT's website even though the route has NYSDOT-grade signage mixed in with other NYSDOT signs. There's nothing in the AASHTO log either. Maybe it's a village/state arrangement. Mapsax (talk) 00:40, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Truck 20