Talk:Space frame

message: what about the audi space frame concept?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.115.89 (talk) 13:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  audi? 

message: The article presently claims that the Honda NSX was the first vehicle to use a space frame.  However, the NSX actually had an aluminium monocoque frame, as the Wikipedia NSX article attests.  Also, companies like Lotus and TVR have been making tube-frame, if not actual space-frame, cars since the 1940s and 1950s.  I'm editing the article to reflect this.  --Mpa (talk) 01:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The first spaceframe car was the Lotus VIII of 1953. There were many, many tube frame cars before this, including several by Lotus, but this was the first to be truly designed as a space frame, rather than a ladder with additional members added. Colin Chapman was assisted in it by aircraft designers.  Several other cars, such as the Stout Scarab and anything involving Bucky Fuller get labelled as "space frames", but weren't strictly so.  Cars don't really need spaceframes and placing their structural members where needed is difficult to combine with driver access and visibility. So they're still mostly a ladder or platform, with bending moments into it (thus not a space frame), and some outriggers above. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:09, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto space frames 

message: It seems like there's two forms of this, one as a square tiling, and one with a triangular tiling. Are they both considerd "space frames"? Both are contained within the Tetrahedral-octahedral honeycomb. The first splits the octahedrons into half as square pyramids. The second has the octahedral volumes triangle-face up, so the surface triangles alternate between octahedral/tetrahedral volums. In the second case, these can be stacked in two different ways, as oct-oct/tet-tet or oct-tet face connections. Tom Ruen (talk) 19:35, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two forms? 

message: An editor has redirected Structural geometry here without merging any of the materials to be found there. Perhaps someone familiar with the field could look over what's below and decide if any of it adds to Space frame? Sorry to take up all this room on the talk page but it does seem best way of ensuring the stuff is properly available. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Structural geometry]]

message: This and this article refer to a special case, the stretch-dominated octet frame, as providing the highest known strength/weight ratio. Besides, it's an interesting read. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stretch-dominated octet frame 

message: Since when are parashells space frames? Andy Dingley (talk) 00:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parashells 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Safeco Plaza (Seattle) article currently claims that the building is:
...the first skyscraper in the world to feature a Vierendeel space frame.(citation: )
Note that neither "Vierendeel" nor "space frame" link here.  Should they?  Is the claim correct? -- RobLa (talk) 01:25, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Seattle's Safeco Plaza the first "Vierendeel space frame"? 

message: Okay, good, but people are going to want to know "why space frame?" Does space refer to the advanced, futuristic nature of the design, or does it refer to its three dimensional form? Was this the original term coined from the time it was first invented, or did space frame only become the term decades later when they started using truss structures like this in the exciting new designs for space stations and space ships, etc? Some more detail about this would be nice.
Also, the section on aircraft is utterly insufficient. It makes it sound like only two obscure Australian aircraft have ever used triangulated truss fuselage frames, but that was a standard construction method before WWII. The Hawker Hurricane, the Savoia-Marchetti SM.79, the Yak fighter family, the Fi 156, the SM.81, the Kawanishi E7K...those are just the ones I know of right off the top of my head. This will include pretty much any plane that was built with a wood and fabric fuselage after the days of wooden frames, and before the semi-monocoque fuselage came in. There were plenty of pre-war aircraft that had both metal skinning and triangulated truss framework. Now, I am not 100% sure such framing counts as "space frame" (sure appears to be the same), but I do know that they are structurally identical to the two Australian aircraft listed in the text, so either they all have space frames, or none of them do, and those are wrongly included. 
Hurricane cutaway, showing the metal frame surrounded by fabric covered wooden formers that gave the fuselage its aerodynamic shape (sheet metal over the front half) http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Hawker-Hurricane/IMAGES/Hawker-Hurricane-Cutaway.jpg
Here's a Hurricane without its skin: http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/VintageWingsOfCanada/HawkerHurricane/pages/30HurricaneFuselageFrame.htm If that's not a space frame, then I'm missing something.
The SM.79 https://i.imgur.com/5duj77f.gif (Maybe just a truss, if there's a difference)
Idumea47b (talk) 06:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't call the Hurricane fuselage a spaceframe, it is bulkhead and stringer, not triangulated axially stressed members. Whether that is wiki's definition is a separate point altogether. Greglocock (talk) 10:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name