Talk:AZERTY

message: The photo did not seem sufficient to explain the text so I added the keyboard layout image.
As a French user, have migrated the keyboard layout from the French Wiki to Wiki commons.
This commons image will probably be cleaned up to get rid of blurrs around letters.
I was not able to link to it from here, and had to copy it into the English Wiki.
The risk is that any improvement to the commons image would not be transmitted to country Wikis, and vice versa.
Is there a syntax for linking to Wiki commons?
Please note that I am new to Wiki.
--Paul Williams 21:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ca'''nnot link to Commons image, had to copy it. Help please!''' 

message: No idea what a keyboard that follows those "Imprimerie nationale" standards
looks like but with the PC102/PC105 French layout in XFree86/Xorg,
- you can get « and » with AltGr-z and AltGr-x resp.,
- you can get accented caps À Â Ä Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Ö Ù Ü by using
Shift-Alt-A/B/D/G/I/H/J/K/N/O/T/V/Y/!,
- you can get the above plus Û by switching caps-lock on before typing the
corresponding accented lower-case letter.
This is not Linux-specific ; I expect that XFree86/Xorg will give you the
same results with a PC102/PC105 keyboard on any other platform.
In the Linux console, the caps-lock method works but not the others.
:Where the regular French (or Belgian) azerty don't have a level 3, xorg adds the symbols of the "common secondary group" ISO/IEC_9995#Common_secondary_group Entlantian (talk) 16:12, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imprimerie nationale ? 

message: Is there no key for the €-sign on French keyboards? 66.214.228.129 23:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: AltGr+E on a Windows Keyboard (and also Linux I think) and alt+$ with a Mac keyboard. 82.239.226.210 20:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Euro-Key 

message: The article says: In Quebec the practice of initial capital accents is not generally followed. I'm from Quebec and my experience is that capital letters usually are accented. It often strikes me when reading French (France) material that they do not put accents on capital letters. Unless someone objects I'll change that.
While we're at it I would also replace "Quebec" with "French Canada" since the French language is not used in Quebec only. Saint 19:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Quebec 

message: I changed that to the admittedly rather uninformative some other countries since AZERTY layouts (with Latin and Arabic letters) seem to be used in the Maghreb countries as well, which are not exactly neighbours of France and Belgium. Feel free to improve the sentence. — Anothername 18:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, Tunisia do use them (former French protectorate). Perhaps a small list of countries where it is predominantly in use could be included in the article? 130.232.146.149 06:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''some neighboring countries'' 

message: "and it is used by most French speakers based in Europe, though France and Belgium each have their own national variations on the layout. The French speaking part of Switzerland uses the Swiss QWERTZ keyboard."
Once we have ruled out France, Belgium, and Switzerland haven't we ruled out most French speakers in Europe?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.24.156 (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''what countries use it'' 

message: It makes sense to use Azerty instead of Qwerty if their vocabulary is totally different.
But the intro line about Qwerty not being sufficient for languages with accented letters glosses over this fact.
You can just as well have a Qwerty keyboard with accented letters on the number and symbol keys.
It would still be sufficient, it just wouldn't necessarily be the most effective for the French language.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.240.124 (talk) 11:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually AZERTY and QWERTY are equally bad for any language, as wovels are in really awkward positions. German also has accented characters, and German-speaking countries use a slightly modified QWERTY (QWERTZ) layout with accented letters readily available without the use of dead keys. The adoption of AZERTY vs. QWERTY in the French-speaking world is purely incidental, and has no scientific basis. It might have been motivated by politics / national pride, not wanting to "follow" the Anglo-Saxon world. 38.125.36.194 (talk) 19:06, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was told by AFNOR people that the French change from QWERTY to AZERTY was probably done to circumvent the original Sholes patent (but I have no real citation to include this into the article text). I don’t know for the actual reason to use QWERTZ instead of QWERTY for German. btw, the German keyboard layout *uses* dead keys, but not for the frequent umlauts äöü wich have assigned their own keys. -- Karl432 (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letter frequency is a different issue to accented letters 

message: The end of this article is long and "rant-like" about the downfalls of Windows and its keyboard system. Perhaps this should be trimmed down or moved somewhere else...? --Evilspoons (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  General article concern 

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message: In Belgium there is only AZERTY layout! Nvdk542 (talk) 19:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Belgium 

message: Why is Portugal not green on the map? As far as I know everyone uses QWERTY in Portugal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8B0:B155:F32B:34C1:B323:5B6D:2E44 (talk) 23:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portugal uses QWERTY 

message: I have an Azerty, so under the 9, I have the ç, but how do I make a "capital C-cedilla"? Crlr+shift+c opens up a window.  Thy, SvenAERTS (talk) 12:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Alt+9/ç. Tvx1 05:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital ç ? 

message: It is true, and anyone can check on the layout's map, that the Portuguese layout has strictly better coverage of French spelling than vanilla AZERTYs, “Œœ” being the only character still missing, aside from typographic perfectionism (though lowercase accented vowels of French are less convenient to type, since they require dead keys). But: is this sentence an assertion that the Portuguese layout is actually used and preferred by some to type French? In which case, please provide reference. Personally, I have never seen or heard about anything like it in France or Belgium. Otherwise, this is just some Wikipedia editor’s astute observation, and I’m not sure it should be placed in this section which, apparently (?), aims at listing keyboard layouts which are used in France. Maëlan 21:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussed paragraph was first written by  back in 2007 (in the article Keyboard layout; it was later moved from there to here). Perhaps the said user (who seems to be Portuguese but does not speak French) could tell us more?). Maëlan 00:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited the discussed paragraph. Maëlan 11:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portuguese keyboard