Talk:Harriet Beecher Stowe

message: I think that, in order to preserve the honesty of this article, that a number of misleadings need to be addressed. For example, it should be noted that Stowe NEVER EVER visited a plantation or even saw slavery first hand. --68.18.179.64 02:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes she did visit a plantation once, crossing over the border from Ohio into Kentucky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.121.83.160 (talk) 23:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Honesty of the article

message: I just uploaded an image of Stowe's bust at the Hall of Fame and thought I'd put it here in case you want to use it in the main article. H0n0r 16:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

message: Didn't she have another sister?  Catherine Beecher, who invented housekeeping  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.177.188 (talk) 07:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably confusing her with Mrs Beeton. Awien (talk) 16:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it could be Catherine Beecher who founded a school for women (this article states H.B. Stowe taught there) and wrote several books (see those listed at GutenbergRaznap (talk) 05:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sister

message: She died in Andover MA, the information there is incorrect
and she collaborated with her sister on the book mentioned
66.243.144.178 04:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for this information? At least a couple of the external links in the article (e.g. http://stowe.thefreelibrary.com/) confirm that she died in Hartford, CT, and Encyclopedia Britannica says she died in Hartford as well.--GregRM 05:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She is buried in Andover MA, Sorry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.243.144.178 (talk) 05:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Location of death

message: Some attention should be made to HBS's rather bizarre Christian feminist views!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.212.8.153 (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feminist pioneer 

message: In the section where it lists (some) of her children, it does not mention at all her son and biographer Charles Edward Stowe (although there is a footnote to that book in the article). Also not mentioned is grandson and author Lyman Beecher Stowe (wrote a biography of Booker T. Washington and Saints, Sinners and Beechers about his well-known family). Raznap (talk) 21:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs More Complete Information 

message: Couldn't there be something said about her work as it is reflected in the African American community in the past and present?  I was surprised that this article does not mention the phrase "Uncle Tom" or "Tommin'" that has been appropriated by the majority of Black people to refer to someone who is selling out their own in order to please and be close to white people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.45.40 (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Legacy in African-American Community

message: Could we get a picture and an "info  box" for this article? I dont  know the actual name for the template, but its the one that boxes and shows the date of birth/death, where born, full name, etc.--TheNuGai (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture/Other info 

message: The article describes Eliza as the main character of Uncle Tom's Cabin, which is a dubious assertion at best. Tom and his masters clearly seem to serve as the central characters, whereas Eliza appears in sparsely occurring additions to her escape subplot.
"...Her first children, twin girls Harriet and Eliza (the main character of Uncle Tom's Cabin was named after Eliza)..."
So should this be edited to say something along the lines of "(a significant character in... was named after Eliza)", or is there some good reason why this is in? TVTMaster (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, TVTMaster. --Mikebrand (talk) 01:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Character 

message: Wow, this article is a mess... Where are all the standard features of a biographical character as they are normally set up in Wikipedia?  There is no life story, other than the introduction and even that leaves a lot to be desired. Isn't it normal for historical contributors to have some biographical facts and chronologies associated with them? The bulk of this article seems to be missing and the rest of what is here, is terribly disorganized.  This article really needs to be developed and cleaned up. Stevenmitchell (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article is a Mess 

message: It seems that most of this article has not yet been written.  In actuality, there is very little detail of any biographical or documentary nature of her life or work, other than than landmarks associated with her life.  Considering that she wrote more than 20 books and was one of the more publicly influential writers of the 19th century in the United States, shouldn't there be more than 3 sentences devoted to her biography?  Stevenmitchell (talk) 23:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't Most of the Article Still Missing? 

message: According to a number of things I've read, that Lincoln quote is apocryphal. I'll try to run down a good source on that. KathleenFuller (talk) 22:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lincoln quote 

message: Why was all of the older discussion deleted? Raznap (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored it. freshacconci talktalk 03:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old discussion 

message: In the 19th century, a "Female Seminary" was very different from a theological seminary, and the juxtaposition might be confusing in the article.  Tried to disambiguate a little... AnonMoos (talk) 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Word "Seminary"

message: Does anyone want to collaborate on re-writing this article and improving its quality? I'd like to see it get to at least Good Article by her bicentennial in June and would love help. --Midnightdreary (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this article is such a mess, I'll allow it in the Wikiproject Connecticut Winter article improvement contest if you are interested in earning a barnstar... Write to me here if you have any questions. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 21:33, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Good luck, Mike. I'm keeping an eye on it too and will help where I can. I think much of what's here is okay but it needs more sourcing. Let me know what I can do to assist. --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made some edits to Stowe's bio including the death of one her sons that acted as another driving force into her work with Uncle Tom's Cabin, (I may have forgot to log in when making these changes). I've also added five new works to the list and put in eight external reading links for existing works. I hope this helped. Mike Tem (talk) 07:31, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, just be careful to add citations to sources where you get your information. Everything else is considered original research and subject to removal at any time. Also, be absolutely careful not to add new information before where a citation already exists, unless you can prove that the already-used-source includes the new information you just added. I'm particularly concerned about the quote, ""Having experienced losing someone so close to me I can sympathize with all the poor, powerless slaves at the unjust auctions. You will always be in my heart Samuel Charles Stowe." Does the Noel Gershon source support this quote, or did you just splice it in? --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-writing this article 

message: "Harriet Beecher Stowe’s “passion for the plight of the slave” gave way to a preoccupation with decorating houses." according to a book review in the NYT:  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/books/review/book-review-america-aflame-how-the-civil-war-created-a-nation-by-david-goldfield.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&nl=books&emc=booksupdateema3 Kdammers (talk) 04:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Later years

message: Under "Uncle Tom's Cabin and Civil War", an quotation is made without verification from any outside source: "I only pray that God Almighty shall bring this cruelty to a swift end." This quotation should be removed until verification from a reliable primary source can be obtained, particularly considering that many other websites (among them Amazon.com, Answers.com, and Ask.com) are now citing this potentially false quotation.
RylinM (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd support the removal of this information until a source is found. It's an odd detail to fixate on, however; much of this article is unverified so anything without a footnote is subject to removal. Is there anything particular about this quote that makes it stand out? --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I read the Wikipedia article on Harriet Beecher Stowe during some research several months ago, and the quote was not present. A little later, when I looked back at the page, the alleged quotation had been added. Since that time, I've personally been keeping tabs on this page and the quote's web presence, and to the best of my knowledge, this is the first place in which the quote was posted online. 99.117.0.20 (talk) 15:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You do know that you can remove it at any time yourself? As I mentioned above, "anything without a footnote is subject to removal" at any time. As we say here on Wikipedia, be bold.--Midnightdreary (talk) 16:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, but the article is "semi-protected until June 4, 2011 due to vandalism." Is there a way to get around that? 99.117.0.20 (talk) 19:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So it is! It's my error for not noticing. I'd be happy to remove the quote at your suggestion. --Midnightdreary (talk) 19:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! If I find a source, I'll be sure to post. RylinM (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading information 

message: Interesting discovery, a book giving advice to American women on everyday life, written after the Civil War, by Harriet Beecher Stowe and Catharine Beecher. I'm surprised not to see Wikipedia mentioning this one. 198.151.130.54 (talk) 17:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harriet and Catharine: advice to American women 

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replies: text: I know this is probably a standard tag but, wow, this article needs so much help. It definitely doesn't make Wikipedia look good. --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you have five days. Maybe the POTD appearance can motivate the article's editors to get something done. —howcheng  {chat} 06:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Harriet Beecher Stowe by Francis Holl.JPG]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: Harriet Beecher Stowe visited Britain in 1853 and 1856, she published details of the second visit in "Sunny Memories". She was a supporter of the Duchess of Sutherland, a large landowner in the Highlands of Scotland.  Large numbers of the Duchess's tenants had been evicted from land that they had occupied for generations.  Land that supported 10,000 people now supported 40 sheep farmers.  The Duchess of Sutherland was in turn a supporter of Harriet's stance on slavery.  It is just ironic that one her supporters (the Duchess) was responsible for the inhuman treatment of thousands through her involvement in the Highland Clearances. 220.253.35.69 (talk) 12:14, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you putting this information on the talk page? --Midnightdreary (talk) 01:32, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harriet Beecher Stowe's visits to Britain 

message: The published Narrative "the Sufferings of Lewis Clarke" around 1846; Freed Slave Lewis Garrard Clarke traveled about giving lectures on his experiences as a slave. It was during one of those travels that he met Harriet Beecher Stowe, who was so impressed by Clarke and his story that she would base the character George Harris in her novel Uncle Tom's Cabin on Clarke.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.110.233.226 (talk) 02:50, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems like it would be useful information for the article on Uncle Tom's Cabin rather than Stowe's bio page, provided there is a reliable published source you can use. --Midnightdreary (talk) 02:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The influence of Lewis Garrard Clarke 

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message: Harriet was present for the lane Seminary Debates, and this was the beginning of her knowledge of the horrors of slavery... there is a new docudrama, Sons and Daughters of Thunder that covers this little known start and architecture of abolition. This article makes it sound like the shipping conflicts were her first exposure to anti slavery issues, when it was clear she was present for the Debates and associated with Theodore Weld.  PWagnerSmith (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Lane Seminary debates