Talk:Dahabshiil

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message: Zahra Ahmed (talk) 06:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. You of course raise valid points with regard to the dubious charges of impropriety. Aside from that, however, your edit is in many places almost identical to material that was already redacted in the past; particularly with regard to the civil war and the Somali Shilling, neither of which are the subject of this article (refer to this earlier discussion). As such, it repeats many of the same mistakes and arguments made in that section, and which, through a long discussion process that resulted in a consensus version, were thoroughly revised. The new "Media Coverage" section, moreover, seems superfluous and promotional, which Wikipedia does not allow (please see WP:NOTADVERTISING). The consensus version has therefore been restored, as has the company franchise photo that was also removed. Any major changes will first have to be discussed, appraised and agreed to per the WP:BRD cycle. Also, please note that this page is being closely monitored by admins as a consequence of the recent disruptive activity on it. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 18:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
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message: I flagged the article because of this. I don't have the time to check every source right now or if information from reliable source were removed. But we should check the history of this article. --Neo139 (talk) 19:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: This edit 
introduced the adjective "former" employee.
Both the DoD, in its allegations against him, and the employee in question, said that he was an employee at the time of his capture.
I have no problem recognizing that the PR firm, in their bragging about subverting the wikipedia, wanted to characterize him as a "former" employee.  But I don't think we should repeat that claim, in the article, as an unchallenged fact.  So I removed "former".  Geo Swan (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  a ''"former"'' employee 

message: The lead section described Mohammed Sulaymon Barre as a "former" Dahashiil employee.  But this contradicts both his own testimony and Peter Finn's description of his case in the Washington Post.  I don't believe there are any reliable sources to support describing him as a "former" employee.  Rather it was the internet line he required to operate his branch that drew Pakistani security official to look at him.
So I removed the modifier "former".  Geo Swan (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: I removed ''"former"''

message: There was a section entitled "Accusations that Dahabshiil tried to suppress unwanted press coverage".  It was removed with explanation a month ago.  I restored it.
Was this the work of Bell Pottinger employees?  I don't know.  Geo Swan (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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message: Series of hard blows for Dahabshiil
The funds transfer company Dahabshiil, headed by Abdirashid Duale, son of the founder of Group Mohamed Said Duale, is going through a bad patch.http://www.africaintelligence.com/ION/business-circles/2013/04/12/series-of-hard-blows-for-dahabshiil,107955308-ART
Until recently, Dahabshiil, was  a leading financial services and funds transfer company in the Horn of Africa for the Somalian Diaspora, operated throughout Somalia, even in the zones held by the Al-Shabaab radical Islamists, without encountering any major problems. However, the explosion at its Mogadishu headquarters in the Bakara market on 2 April could be a turning point for it. Since then, many of its clients have asked their relatives abroad to use a different company to send them their monthly remittance, citing security issues as the reason. Moreover, a few days before this explosion, Dahabshiil had temporarily shut ten offices in the Hiraan, Bay and Bakool regions, after the Al Shabaab had banned it from operating. Mohamed Said Duale Ahmed Mohamed Mahamoud Silanyo.
The explosion triggered by a remote-controlled device injured two guards and came hours after verbal threats from al Shabab militants. Issued by Sheikh Mukhtar Robow Abu Mansur, a senior commander, the threat also called on Somalis in much of central and southern Somalia to boycott the financial institution.
This was reechoed by another senior al Shabab leader, Mahad Warsame Qalley  as unkown (Karate), head of the group's assassins. "Every six months, Dahabshiil used to pay $500,000 (USD). They have refused to pay that money and insist on paying $100,000. To make matter worse, they have joined with infidel governments to offer rewards and bounty on the heads of Mujahideen leaders. This was discovered by al Shabab intelligence," he said.
People fearing for their lives this week urged their relatives abroad to send their monthly income by other alternatives including other Somali money transfer companies.
"I am fearful of visiting Dahabshiil branches because these guys (al Shabab) can carry out suicide attacks at any given time," remittance receiver Mohamed Haji told local Media.
It is not just Dahabshiil's Mogadishu branches who will be out of pocket. Their clients in Bay, Bakol, Hiiraan, Lower and Middle Shabelle regions have not been shielded from the threats.
Investigators from the Somali Federal government and its ally Ahlu Sunna group said the explosion that rocked the bank's headquarter was an inside job. They revealed that due to international pressure for Dahabshiil to come clean of its links to al Shabab, the bank planted the bomb itself to make it appear that it was under attack. It is believed that Dahabshiil has close working ties to “al Afghani” Ibrahim Haji Jama Mead (Ibrahim Afghani), a rival faction of al Shabab to Mukhtar Robow.
In recent times, Dahabshiil and Somalia's breakaway region of Somaliland have been accused of sponsoring terrorism by intelligence groups. The findings have prompted the United States and the United Kingdom to both issue early this year separate travel warnings to the breakaway state. The leader of Somaliland, Ahmed Silanyo, was secretly asked to take practical steps against terrorism by Western governments. Somali leaders including the Puntland region accused Somaliland leadership of not being sincere in efforts to fight terrorism.
Just months ago, the minister of Presidency, Hirsi Ali Haji Hassan, released more than eleven suspected terrorists from Somaliland prisons. The suspects include the murderers of an Italian aid worker who was shot dead in 2003 in Somaliland region. Hirsi, who is also a senior manager of Dahabshiil's subsidiary telecommunication firm, SomTel, was arrested in 2008 on suspicion of terrorism.
Dahabshiil and Ahmed Silanyo, who has shares in the bank, are feeling huge pressure from the international community. The bank fears of its assets being frozen.
Western Intelligence says Dahabshiil will suspended soon as they have a proof of terror support.
Sources said its possible that first Security Council resulotion ordered to shut down Dahabshiil Finance over the World.
The Islamists could thereby be making Dahabshiil’s founder, , pay for his unflinching support for the President of Somaliland known as “”, whose government has just begun to go after radical Islamists in Hargeisa (ION 1351). To cap it all, Dahabshiil has had a new competitor for the supply of telecoms and banking services in the south and centre of Somalia. It is the group, partly owned by the former head of -
NOW DAHABSHIIL IS GOING THE ROAD OF AL BARAKAAT - BACK UP INTELLIGENCE REPORT .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.170.26.219 (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series of hard blows for Dahabshiil -Indian Ocean newsletter 

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By Abdi Sheikh
MOGADISHU | Tue Apr 2, 2013 7:45pm BST
(Reuters) - A bomb exploded outside the headquarters of Somalia's biggest bank on Tuesday, wounding at least two people hours after al Qaeda-linked militants ordered the company cease operations in areas under their control.
The blast outside Dahabshiil's office in Mogadishu shattered its doors and littered the area with debris, police said.
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"A remote-controlled bomb planted in front of Mogadishu's Dahabshiil bank and money transfer headquarters injured two guards," police captain Nur Hassan told Reuters.
 
Earlier, members of Islamist group al Shabaab walked into Dahabshiil branches in areas of Somalia under their control and demanded they close, accusing the company of working for aid agencies they have banned in their territories, according to a statement on the movement's website.
Money transfer firms like Dahabshiil are vital to the Horn of Africa country's fractured economy, which lacks a developed banking sector after 20 years of civil conflict.
Security in the coastal capital Mogadishu has improved greatly since al Shabaab fled the city after a military offensive in August 2011. But bombings and assassinations - blamed on militants - are still frequent.
Police said they had yet to identify who was behind the blast, but that a mobile phone attached to the device was used to detonate it. It was the first such attack to target a bank.
"The explosion crashed open the main entrance glass window but good luck it was dark, and customers were not near," a Dahabshiil worker, who asked not to be named, told Reuters.
Somalis typically transfer money via "hawala" agents, an informal system based on trust, including $2 billion (1.3 billion pounds) the Mogadishu government says Somalis abroad send home every year.
Dahabshiil declined to comment on the threats by Shabaab, which in 2010 briefly banned money transfers by mobile phone, saying it helped feed Western capitalism.
"I heard they accused us of allowing aid agencies to send cash through our bank," Dahabshiil employee Sabdow Ali said from the al Shabaab-controlled southern town of Hudur.
Al Shabaab has thrown out more than a dozen humanitarian groups from areas under its control in the past three years, including the United Nations' food agency, the International Committee of the Red Cross and Islamic Relief.
The militants say aid creates dependency.
In control of much of the capital Mogadishu between 2009 and 2011, the group has been driven from most major cities in central and southern Somalia by African Union peacekeepers.
But in rural areas its fighters are notorious for amputating thieves' limbs and stoning to death women suspected of adultery, under a strict interpretation of sharia, Islamic law.
(Additional reporting by Feisal Omar; Writing by James Macharia; Editing by Jason Webb)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.170.26.219 (talk) 09:33, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blast rocks Dahabshiil bank headquarters in Mogadishu 

message: ::1. Barclays's letter:
::The phrase ‘...citing a lack of "strong anti-laundering governance structures”’ comes from this article on Bloomberg (also republished here on Bloomberg Businessweek). This, however, is at odds with this BBC article, which quotes a letter from Barclays to Dahabshiil that makes it clear that the former's decision was based on sector risk and not on any company-specific concerns about Dahabshiil's AML or CTF controls:
:::'The decision to exit our business relationship with you is not a negative reflection of your anti-money laundering standards, nor a belief that your business has been unwittingly been a conduit for financial crime.'
::This is a fairly unusual scenario as two neutral and reputable sources seem to be contradicting each other. Obviously there has to be an explanation for the situation with Barclays, however, so perhaps the most sensible solution is a succinct outline of both pieces of coverage, for example:
:::'In May 2013, Barclays announced its decision to end its business relationship with Dahabshiil.1 While Bloomberg reported in October 2013 that Barclays had cited a lack of a lack of "strong anti-laundering governance structures", a June 2013 article on the BBC website had quoted a letter from Barclays to Dahabshiil which made it clear that Barclays's action was a "commercial decision due to the risks of the sector", and was not based on concerns about the AML standards of Dahabshiil itself, or on any belief that Dahabshiil had been a "conduit for financial crime".'2 3
::2. Dahabshiil's statement concerning Bell Pottinger's failure to disclose its COI in 2011:
::In December 2011 Dahabshiil stated that it had no knowledge of Bell Pottinger's conduct in regard to its Wikipedia article. This  7 December 2011 article on the Bureau of Investigative Journalism quotes a Dahabshiil spokesperson as saying:
:::'We have never heard of Biggleswiki, and know nothing about them.  We are currently trying to get to the bottom of this and get information as to what is said to have happened.  We can certainly confirm that we have never asked anyone to do anything other than tell the truth about Dahabshiil.'
::This is an important statement by Dahabshiil of its position at the time that is currently not reflected in the article.
::If someone could get back to me on these two points that would be much appreciated. Many thanks. Vivj2012 (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barclays's letter to Dahabshiil & Dahabshiil's statement regarding Bell Pottinger's activities in December 2011 

message: I am an external director of Dahabshiil and have noticed that there are a few factual inaccuracies on this page. 1. Dahabshiil is present in "126" countries, not "140" countries <http://www.dahabshiil.com/>. 2. The company is not "managed by Awale Group Holding which has taken over significant shares in Dahabshill" (the reference included does not even state this to be the case)<http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fintl%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fafae0e64-8630-11e0-9e2c-00144feabdc0.html%23axzz1NaW6lBKi&date=2011-12-10>. Would anyone object to me making these amends? Mr LMA Wiki (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
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