Talk:Freddie and the Dreamers

message: I have added sections and references to the article. Capitalistroadster 16:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections and References

message: Freddie Garrity died May 19 2006. The day of birth seems unclear. At wikipedia 14 November 1937 is given, but I found elsewhere 4th November 1940 and also 14 November 1940. Who knows the correct date? I think it is 14 November 1940.
Harm Frielink 11:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The obituaries in the Guardian and the Daily Telegraph say he was 69, but virtually all the other reports say 65, and I've just watched the obituary on BBC1 Northwest which prominently gave his dates as 1940-2006, so I've been bold and edited the year in article. -- Arwel (talk) 17:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth? 

message: Inserted a better picture with close-up faces to contrast with action pic.  Placed it higher up to break up the block of text, but there is no ideal position which does not leave widows/orphans.  Adjusted for consistency:  all titles go in italics, all quotes go in "quotation marks", just look at any reference book.  Also dates link [ []], and one day soon there will be articles for every song which was a US or UK Number 1, hence linking them now saves somebody the job of backtracking and changing them later.  Why don't you write the article for this one?
:Can someone who knows please complete the names to the faces in the picture caption. Lumos3 09:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pic

message: This article has some serious opinion issues: remember we're writing an encylcopedia, not a music review. You're meant to be a neutral, objective observer and not a subjective critic. In light of that, I question the following:
"their show was probably more suited for the seaside show...than for a rock festival", "could make hit records of songs that other "serious" bands had turned down", "would probably sound unberably twee if delivered by a more 'earnest' singer", and the seemingly contradictory opinions of "The band did have musical ability, and at their peak of popularity were probably second only to the Beatles" yet "their inability to write their own material severely hobbled them". 
Some sources cited here would go a long way towards lending credibility to statements that otherwise smell of WP:NPOV. 66.17.118.195 14:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted all of the above. If someone wants to find some notable reviews of the band and add sourced information about their critical reception, that would be great, but this was just someone's opinion. ProhibitOnions (T) 14:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Great article everyone,  Freddie Garrity was my great uncle and it was great to see such accurate information on him,  bit of info though after he retired from the music industry, he became a milkman until he officially retired at 65. Guru Larry 01:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other

message: :Image:Freddygarrity.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Freddygarrity.jpg

message: I notice that discussion has started; this is all good; please continue to discuss the edits. Meanwhile, since edit warring has resumed, I have protected the page. The version of the page that I have protected is not, in any sense, an 'approved' version. When agreement has been reached on the key editing elements I will lift the protection. TerriersFan (talk) 19:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Page now protected

message: In order for editing restrictions to be removed there needs to be a good indication that edit warring will cease. The best solution seems to be to divide the page into separate sections covering the history of the 'original' and the 'new Dreamers'. I would emphasise that deleting big chunks of content from this page is unhelpful to the process and will only delay the lifting of editing restrictions. Further, if content removal continues I will not hesitate to block the editors responsible. TerriersFan (talk) 15:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In articles like this, it is normal for Wikipedia to include brief details of spin-offs etc., especially when they are not of sufficient note to merit their own page. Rothorpe (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way forward 

message: Looks like the various sockpuppets of Quinn2go have all been blocked. Anyone left out there? Rothorpe (talk) 23:10, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still here watching, waiting, great to see all the misusers gone. hopefully for good and the ones who were trying to impersonate me. the IP doesn't lie. Mikequinn10 (talk) 11:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have unprotected the page; if the dispute resumes, I will slam down the protection faster than anyone can say 'edit warring'. :-) TerriersFan (talk) 22:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Sorry; having reflected I have altered the protection to semi-protect for 1 month so as to ease back to normality! TerriersFan (talk) 01:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds wise. Thanks for giving me time to do my edits! Rothorpe (talk) 01:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It won't affect you as an established editor, of course, only new editors and IPs. TerriersFan (talk) 01:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Oh, sorry, I missed the "semi-". Rothorpe (talk) 02:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: All gone?

message: May I remind all editors that using multiple accounts abusively and personal attacks are completely prohibited. Please comment on the content, not the contributor, and do not edit war to support the inclusion of your changes, but use talk pages to discuss and establish a level of mutual agreement and consensus cordially among everyone. WilliamH (talk) 05:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice per [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Could someone please take a look|recent ANI thread]]