Talk:Tsst

message: Sorry to break the discussion about the episode, but I had a serious concern about the content of the article, namely the trivia section that compares Cartman killing his mom to abortion. I originally NPOV'd the section, before realizing that the argument didn't have much substance. The episode makes no specific allusions to abortion, and it can only be inferred that whomever added this to the article would be pro-life. The correct way to deal with this, I believe, would be to mention that it may be compared, but this brings up the argument that a fetus is a human being, which I'm sure this article is not the right place for. -Mysekurity [m!] 22:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abortion section 

message: Regarding this note: Cartman's last-minute reversion to his old ways at the end of the episode may also be a parody of the reset button technique.
How is it parody? It seems to me they're just employing reset button technique (albeit doing so far more skillfully than most shows).Raymondluxuryacht 23:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reset button technique 

message: It seemed pretty obvious to me that the "favorite hobby" of which Ceasar spoke was Liane's sex addiction.  What else could the comment have meant?  The two also walked off screen together just after Ceasar mentioned it.  So I put that explanation back in the trivia section.  Am I really just completely full of it here?  Anyone care to back me up on this one? If no one agrees with me, I'll let it go, and concede that it's a stretch.--expensivehat 02:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a stretch, but it's kind of a red herring. I believe it's meant to suggest that he's talking about sex, since that's been her character gimmick since the series inception, but the joke is that her favorite hobby is actually chinese style painting. I believe the trivia entry should be reworked to more accurately reflect the "misdirection" nature of the joke.--Kurena1 03:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't say I agree, only because her painting is revealed some time later in the episode, after (for me at least) the hobby joke had worn off.  She also says she learned how to make the paintings while Eric was out, whence we see that painting was not her favorite hobby when Ceasar mentioned it.  However, it occurs to me that the trivia section is probably not there to explain all the jokes in the show which aren't so obvious, and this matter is probably too trite to merit any real debate. I think I will delete my entry soon unless somebody convinces me otherwise.--expensivehat 03:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it might have had two meanings, while at the time of the statement the implication was that her "hobby" was sex, it is later revealed that she liked painting.  Given that the plot later indicates that she had given up painting when Eric was born, this hobby could not have been reflected in prior episodes and was intended to make the viewer realize that Liane was not so one dimensional after all (shame on us).  Thus, the message to be taken away is that Eric's faults are attributed (in part) to his mother's failure to seek her own happiness, friends, and interests and over-devote herself to him.  This is strengthed by the last scene.  I've updated the artile to reflect this.  Lgreen 04:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Favorite Hobby" 

message: I disagree that Evil Eric as shown in this episode is a parady of Altered States.  While evil eric is vibrating somewhat, the form shown, grotesque fatty and curvy, is clearly a parody of the devil from The Devil's Advocate, similar to the devil from The Witches of Eastwick, once each devil reveals themself.  What do you all think about this?Lgreen 
:The "fatty form" appears numerous times in Altered States, including the scene which is quoted in this episode.
::Yes, very true, in fact, here are links to two pictures of twice during the film there is a "fatty form", one of which is the scene in question  . This was never a Devil's Advocate reference. Ever. And I think all the talk of Devil's Advocate and The Fantastic Four should be removed. --64.18.110.233 08:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, you convinced me.  Lgreen 21:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, no referance to Devil's Advocate was made. The shapeshifts in that movie, extremely extremely brief and more 'evil' than 'fat/bloated/etc' and if anything the fat-form cartman shifts more closley resemble the crap-monster from Dogma.  As to the face-shifting double talk, that is clearly contact. Same type of visual effect, similar sound effects and also repeats the same phrases, all like the movie Contact. Oogles 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Evil Eric from [[Altered States]], I don't think so

message: For some reason User:Spin_Boy_11 moved it from Tsst to "Tsst!". And then I f'ed it up even more... --Bahati 16:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Phew! --Bahati 17:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do we need (South Park episode) as part of the title when there are no conflicts/disambiguation? WTF? Matt Gies 16:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm for reverting to Tsst again, but after the previous disaster I'm not touching the move button for a few years.--Bahati 17:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved it because I want to keep the format with other SP episode pages, Also TSST does have a disambiguation page. (Baboo 23:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Then you better go change Volcano (South Park episode), Death (South Park episode), Damien (South Park episode), Pink Eye (South Park episode), Starvin' Marvin (South Park episode), Tom's Rhinoplasty (South Park episode), City on the Edge of Forever (South Park episode), Chickenpox (South Park episode) etc... There are a great number of SP episodes that share names with other wiki pages and they all seems to have a (South Park episode) tag. in keeping with the format with these South Park pages, I think adding a (South Park episode) is the best way to represent this page. change Tsst to Tsst (South Park episode) like my original move. Baboo 09:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Each of these episodes has some other page that is more important, or equally important to their name. Volcano, Death, Damien, Pink Eye, and Chickenpox are obvious. Starvin' Marvin is also the name of a character, so it's split that way. City on the Edge of Forever is also a Star Trek episode (see the dab page), and Tom's Rhinoplasty is simply misnamed. I'll go and move that now. Naming Conventions states that articles should be at their most common name, so that they are easily found. There's no need to tag each and every South Park episode with this information unless a much more notable alternative exists. At this point, there are no other things notable enough to use Tsst, or even TSST, so this is where it should stay. -Mysekurity [m!] 22:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Does the last paragraph of the plot section ("This episode is interesting in that it expands...") belong there? It seems like more of an analysis than a plot summary.
: I like it, a little analysis is good to see :).  Lgreen 04:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think what the person is trying to suggest is that the analysis paragraph should be in a separate section (either as a trivia note or in its own section) rather than included as part of the plot summary.Raymondluxuryacht 07:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, ok.  I've just created a "plots analysis" section and put it into there.  Lgreen 17:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot Analysis

message: Cartman uses an XBOX 360, but the boys use a normal XBOX. It can be seen sitting on the tv while theyre playing it and clearly is a normal old school XBOX. Discussion over. 140.159.2.31 00:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you're referring to this shot? First, that doesn't particularly look like an Xbox, unlike the 360 which was clearly a 360 based on appearance. Second, the controllers the four players are holding are clearly not Xbox controllers, or at least not the standard ones, Third, the controllers don't appear to be hooked up to the thing on top of the TV, and if they are their cords are running in front of the TV. Fourth, I'd like to know who gave you the the ability to end discussions on a whim. Playstationman 04:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pwned 129.64.141.43 05:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 

message: This page needs a spoiler warning, although I don't know how to do it.  Avraham 01:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler

message: the link to the episode is broken  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.72.135 (talk) 16:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Link is Broken

message: i went ahead and removed the entire trivia section -> certainly we shouldn't just go around deleting every trivia section, some of them add significant information.  but the trivia section for this article didn't have anything left that could be merged into other sections, nor a single note that really added to the article. if you want random notes about a tv episode, try tv.com - Shadowsill (talk) 04:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to remove it again, but I'll leave it here for citation (you never know...)
* The offence Cartman is being punished for at the beginning of the episode in Mr. Mackey's office (he told Billy Turner that he poisoned his milk, handcuffed him to a flagpole and gave him a saw, telling him that he had to saw off his foot to get the antidote) is a reference to the movie Saw.
* The end of the episode, with the choral music and Cartman smiling at the camera after being promised that he can have anything he wants, is lifted directly from the closing shot of The Omen.
* The last nanny seen on Nanny 911 is a Skeksis, a species of evil creatures seen in the Jim Henson movie The Dark Crystal.
* Cartman's line "Yes! Let the anger come! Strike me down while you can!" is a reference to Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
* After the 'spirit heads' which are a reference to Jodie Foster's character going through wormholes warping time and space---saying things before she would--in Contact, Cartman moves into the hallway, where he changes colors and forms. This is a reference to the climactic scene in the film Altered States.
* Eric can be seen plugging in his Xbox 360 while singing Don't Stop Believin' by the American rock band, Journey. In the Latin American version, dubbed and aired on MTV Latin America on November 11, 2006 he is singing La Camisa Negra by the Colombian singer Juanes.
* While Cartman is finger painting in one scene, the can reads "Red Balls", a parody of the energy drinks Red Bull and Bawls.  "Red Balls" was also used on an episode of Chappelle's Show.
Alastairward (talk) 11:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section 

message: Is this the episode where Cartman closes his eyes and sees a bizarre, horrible string of images and brief video clips, then says something to the effect of "Whoa, dude. Weird." ? If it is, it ought to be mentioned in the description. 
--Ragemanchoo (talk) 08:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be the Helen Keller episode you're thinking of. Cosmidnight (talk) 00:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bizarre string of images?

message: Wait wait wait, so it really was Cesar Millan staring as himself? I always thought it was one of the two anuses that created the show voicing him. Interesting.
: Is that true? --Mjbauer95 (talk) 04:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ummm