Talk:Dan Carter

message: Would the article page be better situated at Dan Carter?Londo06 11:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dan Carter is a REDIRECT  to this page, and personally I don't mind Dan Carter being used instead  of the extra (rugby player)..--Cometstyles 11:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems a perfectly reasonable move, why not request it at the requested moves page. Alexsanderson83 07:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dan Carter

message: :Any additional comments:
:Seems there is a demand for it. He is widely known as Dan Carter. Alexsanderson83 13:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Does anyone agree with me that there  should be semi-block as it is often vandalized especially by IP Users. Tshiels1 (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi Block

message: The article has too many sentences like "...outstanding average of 14.9 points a game..."; and "...smashing the previous All Blacks record...", so I added the disputed neutrality banner. Please give your opinion on the matter.Adabow (talk) 00:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: Hi, I'm changing the position name from Second Five Eighth to Fly-Half, this is because Second Five Eighth seems to be a name used solely by kiwis, and is confusing to other readers who are not used to calling it that, as the standard worldwide definition is Fly-Half, I appreciate Dan Carter is a New-Zealander, but surely it makes more sense? Lyamardus (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2011 (UTC.
Also, apologies if i have actually gotten that kiwi name to position wrong, it is extremely confusing, of course i mean no offence by this Lyamardus (talk) 20:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position Name 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: So after spending some time combing myheritage, ancestry.com and other genealogical sources of Dan Carter, it seems the claim he is of Maori descent has yet to be verified. Basically we have:
*Thomas John Carter & Florence Rita Greenwood, his grandfather Albert Carter's parents. Both were English.
*William Coggan Brears & Christina Boswell, his grandfather Raymond Brears's parents. Both were English.
*Edward Reid Garland and Elsie Allan, his grandmother Neta Brears (nee Garland)'s parents. Both were English.
*Marion May Free, his grandmother Pam's mother, although born in New Zealand, her parents wereEnglish immigrants who settled at Ross.
Now this is where things get interesting. His grandmother, Pam's father was Huia Gilbert Dalley (brother of All Black, William Charles Dalley). Huia does have a first name that is a Maori word (named after an extinct New Zealand bird). Huia's parents were Charles Thomas Dalley and Charlotte Maria Loveless. Charlotte was an English immigrant but Charles was born in New Zealand.
Charles parents were William Henry Dalley, an English immigrant and Maria Ann (Mary) Quick who was born circa 1839 in Lyttelton. But there isn't much found of her parents and she is the only possible remaining line in Dan Carter's genealogy to substantiate that he is of Maori descent. 
A possibility of why his 2x great grandparents named their son "Huia" could be because they heard the name and liked it or someone they were close to was called "Huia" and died the year of their son's birth, so to honour said person they named their son after him as was the tradition of that time. It should be noted that "Gilbert" doesn't appear in any of his line so it's possible if Huia was named in honour of someone, the person could have been called Huia Gilbert.
Until then, I think the mentions of his Maori descendency should be taken down for now. Smilerreborn (talk) 10:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a WP:reliable source that disagrees with you - until you can provide something that is not WP:original research that ontradicts that we have to accept it. noq (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As reliable sources go, a list of sports people with Maori (and Pacific Island) heritage with no supporting details is pretty weak. The New Zealand Herald is usually regarded as a reliable source, but I think in the light of Smilerreborn's research that we should restore his edit unless new evidence is found.-gadfium 01:49, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with gadfium, the NZHerald article is just a list and doesn't really source where they got their information but because of this list printed in 2010, the claim of Carter's alleged Maori heritage has  taken flight and Carter himself has never stated he is of Maori descent. All I was asking was for the bit where it says he is of Maori and pakeha descent be taken down until we can find a more concrete source. Also when it come to genealogy... isn't all genealogy research deemed original research? :) Smilerreborn (talk) 20:15, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Maori heritage

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