Talk:Fat feminism

message: This article is more or less entirely copied from other sources - sources that have even been quoted in the external links section. This is a form of copyright theft. Please rewrite using (at the very least) your own words, or I will submit to Articles for Deletion. Ck lostsword|queta! 14:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: alright. mirageinred 14:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: can you specify where? mirageinred 14:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The opening section of 'Views' down to the statistics is taken from here. The history section is from the same site. Also, the statement that obesity is genetic is original research - see the WP article on obesity. Ck lostsword|queta! 15:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I see, thanks. mirageinred 15:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But I can't make the history section from scratch. I'm going to need sources to make this page. mirageinred 15:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree, but you don't need to copy from the sources. You must rewrite any sources - in some cases to make them make more sense as an encyclopaedic entry; in others simply because it is a breach of copyright. Ck lostsword|queta! 20:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm.. I thought they were all reworded, but I'll try to look for more sources and change it as much as I can. mirageinred 22:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright problems

message: I removed, "For example, a black woman might have bigger hips and breasts than a white woman" because ...well, it doesn't have much to do with being fat. And because a white woman might have bigger hips and breasts than a black woman. (Or a green woman, 'smatter of fact. ;-) )
As for "...women who are naturally larger than the norm would be forced into a chicken or egg cycle of poverty and social discrimination." Is it just me, or does the chicken and egg cycle seem to be a faulty parallelism when compared with poverty and social discrimination? I don't know how to fix it, but it'd be nice if someone else could. :D Eirein 03:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. The chicken and egg metaphor presumably indicates it is impossible to know which came first. I think a women who loses her job due to being fat can be pretty certain that the discrimination came before the poverty. Likewise a women who grew up in poverty, therefore has a bad diet could point out that the poverty came first.Dillypickle (talk) 08:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Views 

message: This article has no mention of health, apart from fat feminists saying they don't believe that being fat is a health risk, which it clearly is according to scientific studies. Do none of these feminists discuss this at all? Isn't encouraging women to be fat a bad idea, at least as bad as encouraging them to be unhealthily thin?Dillypickle (talk) 08:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed The Umbreon 1.0 (talk) 01:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Health

message: "The Horrifying Merger of Feminism." Return of Kings, 27 Feb. 2014. Web.
Ruth. "OPINION: Lindy West’s Pro-fat Feminism Is Identity Politics Gone Wrong." Pro-fat Feminism Is Identity Politics Gone Wrong. N.p., n.d. Web. 26 Sept. 2015.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoelGiffin (talk • contribs) 20:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: One area that could use some work is the subsection on the intersection of body politics and race.  While I agree that race informs fat feminism and body representation and politics, the subsection in the article as it is now does not provide any information on that intersection.
Also, the early timeline section looks decent (could use some more source work), but the 2010 to now section leaves a little to be desired.  Might also see how that can be fleshed out some.  Nicrlove (talk) 06:02, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: FAT FEMINISM AND BODY POLITICS IN RELATION TO RACE

message: This article has become too long to read, for the topic... most of the info in it can even be ported over to the links in the article or the see also articles, it started getting larger in 2014 and has gone on from there, no one wants a bloated entry Nathanielfirst  18:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: At 17kb, this article is nowhere even close to the size recommended for splitting; plenty of articles are over ten times as big, and not split. Was this supposed to be some kind of sick joke? If so, it wasn't funny. Mathglot (talk) 09:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of article becoming a problem 

message: Try the very well-known Fat is a Feminist Issue of 1978 by Susie Orbach. Typical of what seems a poor US-only account. Johnbod (talk) 10:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: . But any special reason you didn't want to just fix it? Mathglot (talk) 11:04, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The first fat feminist book, Shadow on a Tightrope: Writings by Women on Fat Oppression, by Lisa Schoenfielder and Barb Wieser was published in 1983." - WRONG 

message: It's well-established that NAAFA, the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, was founded not by feminists, but by "chubby chasers," aka "fat admirers," aka men who fetishise fat women. Until the mid-to-late '00s, the group primarily functioned as a dating and "Hookup" social club, which also published soft-core erotica on the side, their conventions through that time were infamous for being little more than a couple of daytime workshops lending a veneer of respectability before the eventual orgy, and one of their founders is even widely regarded as the "Godfather of [Erotic] Feederism."
All of this directly contradicts the principles and goals of any wave of Feminism. While we can all see what the NAAFA official website claims, nowadays, their actual history isn't hard to find out about. This means the NAAFA website isn't a reliable source for their own history, as current leadership would rather whitewash the facts, in the name of respectability.
Ruadhan1334 (talk) 21:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute on the inclusion of NAAFA 

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