Talk:Kazakh alphabets

message: It seems wrong, to me, that two different letters are transcribed equally in janga system.
 Қ қ ق 	Q q  Kh kh
 Х х ح 	X x  Kh kh
I suppose the first one is wrong, as Kh as a transliteration of X is the usual.
--80.33.152.28 13:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. Fixed. Also is removed unofficial proprietary scripts.--AlefZet 16:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Janga 

message: There is lots of interesting history of the Kazakh alphabet and its bizarre journey through the arabic, latin, and cyrillic scripts. I'm no expert in this, but the Russian article (featured!) seems to have lots of this info (I don't read Russian well). Can somebody do at least a rough translation? Staecker 18:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please translate 

message: I'd like to see an article on this person - who developed the alphbet.
:Yours truly, --Ludvikus 22:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sarsen Amanzholovich Amanzholov 

message: EVP Order Number 	O2007123
   Author(s) 	Amanzholov, Sarsen Amanzholovich
   City 	Almaty
   Country 	Kazakhstan
   Language 	Russian
   
   Date Publication 	2002
   Publisher 	Ghylym
   Subject 	Humanities
   Languages/Linguistics
   Kazakhstan
   Cover Type 	Hard cover
   Pages 	366
Yours truly, --Ludvikus 23:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book on the above 

message: Can someone render Dayyin Bol (Be Prepared), the Scout Motto, into Kazakh Cyrillic? Thanks! Chris 15:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here you go: Дайын бол. Selerian (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Kazakh Scouting

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sotsijaldy qazaqstan.jpg

message: Who uses the "Advanced version of romanisation" as given on this page? It looks like an Uzbek inspired latinization, but as far as I am aware, this isn't the Kazakhstan government's 2000s proposed latin script. As Cyrillic is official in the country, some justification for the inclusion of "Advanced version of romanisation" in this article should be given. languagegeek (talk) 14:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advanced version of romanisation? 

message: The part about Historical alphabets should be removed. It deals with old Turkic alphabets which are not specifically related to Kazakh. Even under the assumption that Crimean kipchak and Kazakh are related, it does not mean that Kazakhs come from the group of Kipchaks who settled in Crimeans... At least, sources must be mentioned.
--Qyzylqarga (talk) 20:37, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Historical alphabets'' must be removed from the page

message: What happened to the letters Ё, Ц, etc. in the 2017 Latin script?  Currently these are blank in the table. 2601:644:1:B7CB:6598:4AE7:81E6:AFB7 (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Those letters have no equivalents in the new Latin script, and will be written using a combination of other letters. Exactly which combinations will be used is currently being decided by official linguists in Kazakhstan. But probably Ё will become IO, and Ц will become TS. The reason these letters have not been included in the new alphabet is because these letters were not present in Kazakh before it was switched to Cyrillic, and are not used in any native Kazakh words. These are letters specific to the Russian alphabet and are only seen in words borrowed from the Russian language. Selerian (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing letters in correspondence chart 

message: I object to the way this page has been hastily written to change everything to the apostrophe romanization. There is an upswell of resistance to it in favour of another more "Turkic" alphabet. If nothing, both of these should be given on this page. The new one is controversial, and while "decreed" has not been implemented -- Evertype·✆ 12:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over-hasty editing of this page 

message: If someone wants to make the update, the newest revision of the alphabet as announced yesterday is available here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2018_Kazakh_Latin_Alphabet.png Trey314159 (talk) 17:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feb 2018 Alphabet 

message: Why is there a dotted and dotless minuscule i while the capital I is not differentiated? Malurian123 18:09, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the capital I represents two different letters and is not differentiated. My understanding is that the Kazakh linguists looked at the Turkish alphabet and thought that it was too weird/inconvenient to have Iı and İi, and instead preferred to have at least one letter Ii that capitalizes the same way as in English. The drawback of their decision is of course that when the letters ı and i are capitalized, they now look identical as I and I. Which of the two letters is used will need to be determined from context. Selerian (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the letter I 

message: https://astanatimes.com/2019/11/fourth-version-of-kazakh-latin-script-will-preserve-language-purity-linguists-say/ ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich  Talk 18:56, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If I recall correctly, this was also the first version, wasn't it? 85.163.122.254 (talk) 23:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yet ANOTHER revision. 

message: Preqono loçañ
Bötorat snartäcäl hopüğil
2601:C6:C580:11A0:F11D:49D:98EA:5883 (talk) 23:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Tatar 

message: It appears that the C with cedille was dropped from the two most recent versions of the latin script (Jan 2021 and Apr 2021). This is also the case in the reference from the Astana Times. Is the plan to replace this with T and S with cedille?--2A02:8071:3EC8:1800:ADDC:1D3:BFA3:EDD1 (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it will be replaced using just s with cedille (ş) Selerian (talk) 20:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  C with cedille missing? 

message: These letters have been used in the current Cyrillic set and not all letters just in loanwords.
чек -> şek?
объектив -> obektiv?
юриспруденция -> ürisprudensia? Anatoli (talk) 04:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, your guesses are correct. All these letters are not pronounceable in Kazakh (unless you pronounce the word using Russian pronunciation), so the plan is to give words which contain these letters a new spelling which agrees with Kazakh phonotactic constraints. Selerian (talk) 20:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone explain the policy for letters я, ё, ю, ъ, ь, э, ц, ч and щ? 

message: "This version will be officially implemented starting 2023."  Was it? Kdammers (talk) 04:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed 

message: Reading the article I don't understand: is the new alphabet identical to the CTA? a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 17:15, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison to the CTA