Talk:Pleaching

message: A picture of something that was pleached would be helpful.  It would make it a little easier to see what pleaching is.  Also, the lower portion of text should be incorperated into the other text and reworded.
Plantboy1 23:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I removed the two paragraphs at the end because they appear to be presenting speculation without references. Wordage such as "it is pleasant to imagine how the pleaching of inosculate trees might have been employed" And "planks could have been thrown across where huts were built".... is not factual but speculative.
66.82.9.107 20:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  speculation without references 

message: I imagine the recreated (or reguessed?) lime walk, closing overhead, in the restored Privy Garden at Hampton Court Palace, begun c 1986, is pleached, but I can't nail a reference. Johnbod (talk) 10:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hampton Court 

message: This is topiary,the trees are not touching they are merely clipped.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ?oygul (talk • contribs) 14:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topiary image 

message: I strongly suggest that editors do not continue the arguments on Tree shaping here and that they refrain from editing on the basis that this article might be merged with Tree shaping.  There is no consensus for that.  In my opinion the Arbcom bans on Blackash and Slowart apply here.  Martin Hogbin (talk) 09:21, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Axel Erlandsons trees are commonly referred to as pleaching there are plenty of refs.?oygul (talk) 13:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the techniques used in Axel Erlandsons trees is referred to as pleaching but these are not typical examples of the process.  Please let us keep the Tree shaping argument out of this article. Martin Hogbin (talk) 17:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Blackash has described pleaching as, 'Pleaching seems to have started out as a weaving/braiding process of hedge laying and has evolved into a weaving/braiding of tree branches with clear trunks to form a hedge. Or it maybe even be used for both process still' (my bold).  Your picture was nothing like a hedge. Martin Hogbin (talk) 22:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hiya, popping in as an admin.  I have no opinion on the "Pleaching" term nor the prose content of the article, but was curious as to why this source was removed from the article? It appears to use the Pleaching term, so was it removed because the usage was atypical as compared to other sources, per WP:UNDUE?  Or are there concerns that the source is unreliable, per WP:RS? Thanks, --Elonka 16:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the image because it was not typical result of pleaching as described in the article, thus it was giving WP:UNDUE weight to a specialist usage of this technique. If you look through the article, you will see that very little in it that relates to the image that I removed. Martin Hogbin (talk) 17:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not asking about the removal of the image, I'm asking about the removal of the source?  If a source is reliable, it should usually be left in the article.  The information from that source can of course be modified, but in general, the more sources, the better! --Elonka 18:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I understood the source was in support of the image. If we do not have the image we do not need a source, or is it referred to elsewhere? Martin Hogbin (talk) 11:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Martin there are lots of refs for Axel Erlandson and others using pleaching technique and for shaped trees being call "Pleached trees", "Living examples of pleached structures include the red alder bench by Richard Reames and sycamore tower by Axel Erlandson" etc. Link There should be some representation of the content from these refs. ?oygul (talk) 16:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ?oygul, you quite rightly removed another image from this article because it did not show what is described in this article.  Your proposed image also does not show what is described in this article.  It would be very useful if you could try to find some images showing the process that this article describes. Martin Hogbin (talk) 19:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Martin, I found some good images in the commons and I will start adding them soon. I found a photo that mirrors the drawing at the top of the page. ?oygul (talk) 13:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Tree shaping' argument here. 

message: ?oygul you asked about my pleaching refs. I'm just letting you know I haven't forgotten, but it will be next month before I start with the refs I have. Blackash have a chat 23:31, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I beleve that Dan has from time to time used pleaching but don't know of any RS that use it for his work. Axel used the world's strangest trees and then circus trees as his name for his work. There are some RS for pleaching being used with is his trees. Blackash have a chat 03:13, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pleaching 

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