Talk:Farallon Islands

message: :This article may seriously under-represent the dangers of nuclear waste dumping in the area of the Farralon Islands based on a 25 February 2014 article by the Center for Investigative Reporting.  The article regards the decades-long misrepresentations and denials by the US Navy about less serious nuclear decontamination problems on Treasure Island in San Francisco Bay and at other California military installations.  The article is "Treasure Island cleanup exposes Navy’s mishandling of its nuclear past" at http://cironline.org/reports/treasure-island-cleanup-exposes-navy%E2%80%99s-mishandling-its-nuclear-past-5986 .  The article repeatedly speaks of nuclear waste from Treasure Island being dumped in the Farralon Islands area, (apparently including the scuttling of -- or pieces of -- radioactive ships -- OTHER than the US Independence which were present at the 1946 Operation Crossroads atomic test at Bikini Atoll -- though this is not clear from the article and the article is not about the scuttling of ships at the Farralon Islands.)  Calling it "radioactive waste" would seem to be an understatement.  Perhaps the article could be revisited given the literally hoards of documents unearthed from multiple sources by CIR -- and perhaps as a result of other inquiries and insights by other organizations or authors?Lethomme (talk) 00:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Dumping of nuclear waste at sea was not prohibited at all until the 1970s, and even today can technically be done in many situations with the right license from the EPA.
This is a distinction without a difference.  Fukishima? Lethomme (talk) 00:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

text: I don't know what "shelf life" is supposed to mean here. Is it some sort of reference to the half lives? This needs to be clarified or removed. "Shelf life" has no meaning in this context. --24.147.86.187 22:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I basically re-wrote it. It seems like it was basically copied-and-pasted from another site anyway, and that site had really bad information on it (it was a sloppy compilation of information with a lot of innuendo thrown in). I think the truth of things is shocking enough as it is, written up clinically and without innuendo, so I have done so! --24.147.86.187 22:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Doesn't this information really belong in the Gulf of the Farallones National Marine Sanctuary article? Sabine's Sunbird  talk 21:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it need a separate article for that? --24.147.86.187 (talk) 03:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nuclear waste misinformation

message: Sorry if it's a stupid question!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.126.200 (talk) 06:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The net either drifted there from outside the sanctuary, or, more likely, the whale was entangled outside the sanctuary and carried the net there itself. 76.200.157.121 (talk) 03:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there netting in the sea if it's a marine sanctuary? 

message: The Spanish Wikipedia article  provides Spanish (and in a few cases Russian) names for the islands, perhaps even for some rocks that have no English equivalents. Please help matching the names, so we can provide the Spanish names in this article also.
===nearly certain matches===
*Southeast Farallon Island = Farallón Sureste
*Sea Lion Rock = Piedra del León Marino
*Great Arch Rock = Farallón El Gran Arco
*Middle Farallon Island = Farallón de Enmedio
*North Farallon Island = Farallón del Norte
*Island of St. James = Isla St. James
===possible matches===
*Seal Rock = Piedra Bola
*Maintop Island = Farallón Santiago
*The Drunk Uncle Islets = Rocas de la Bahía
*Aulone Island = Isla Rezanov
*Sugarloaf Island = Piedra de Amolar
===no matches (no English equivalents found or known)===
* ? = Roca Kuskov (S)
* ? = Roca Kostromitinov (S)
* ? = Piedra Guadalupe (N)
* ? = Peñasco Quebrado (N)
* ? = Farallón Vizcaíno (N)
</br>Ratzer (talk) 09:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish Names

message: * ? = Roca Kuskov (S)
* ? = Roca Kostromitinov (S)
* ? = Piedra Guadalupe (N)
* ? = Peñasco Quebrado (N)
* ? = Farallón Vizcaíno (N)
</br>Ratzer (talk) 09:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: no matches (no English equivalents found or known)

message: It is stated that the islands are visible from the mainland on clear days. This is not quite true. Under certain, usually hazy, atmospheric conditions, the Farallones loom into view, but on perfectly clear days, they are hidden beyond the horizon line. I am not an authority, except insofar as I grew up in San Francisco, and had not given the matter any thought, until a science teacher enlightened my class. I remember proving the phenomenon to myself on subsequent jaunts around town. Dchiapello (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That may be true from sea level, but I recall them being very visible from up the hills above Stinson Beach even on clear clear days. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 03:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellany 

message: The article on mirage states that the islands are not visible themselves, but just as a refraction, or mirage, in ideal atmospheric conditions. I think the 1st paragraph is misleading. Parababelico (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That may be true at Sea-level,, but there are high hills on the coast and the islands, and things behind them, are certainly visible from the road to Stinson Beach. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 18:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  visible from continent? 

message: The two houses should be to the left of the white rain cachment basin (as in "View of research station at Marine Terrace", or on Google Earth), not to the right. The original source is also reversed. 
Dstivers (talk) 23:18, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A view of the Farallon Islands" is reversed left for right 

message: The edits by author Ggitzen of 20 August 2012 places Drake’s 1579 visit to islands at Three Arch Rocks, south of Nehalem Bay, Oregon, rather than the accepted place of the Farallon Islands:
“It was formerly believed that the first European to record the islands was the English privateer Sir Francis Drake, who landed on the islands on 24 July 1579. He named them the Islands of Saint James, a name that now applies to only one of the rocky islets of the North Farallones. However; the Farallons are made up of 4 islands while maps of the time reflect 5 or 6. The Three Arch Rocks National Marine Reserve and neighboring Twin Rocks lying off of Rockaway Beach, Oregon corresponded with Drakes 5 or 6 islands. Meares in 1788 identified the Islands of St. James (as named by Drake) as 4 while Vancouver in 1792 identified them as 3 in number.>”
This is a self-published work which does not present the accepted Drake course which includes Drakes Bay and the Farallon Islands.  Fort Nehalem Publishing is the author’s press.  www.whois.com lists www.fortnehalem.net with Garry Gitzen as Registrant, Administrative Contact and Technical Contact at ggitzen@nehalemtel.net.
Drake’s presence at the Farallon Islands has been formally recognized on two separate occasions by the National Park Service – in 1977 and 2012}}MikeVdP (talk) 02:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Drake at Three Arch Rocks

message: Which are sea stacks ? Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 16:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sea stacks

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message: Due to the fact that the best documented, and most logical explanation of the naming of the islands appears to be the account provided from the Viscaino expedition, I have listed this account as the article's explanation of the naming of the islands.  All alternative explanations provided seemed to be either self conflicting, or else without high quality source material.  2601:642:C000:96E0:83D:7A60:423A:DEE5 (talk) 23:04, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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message: The article is inconsistent and confusing about the islands' area.  The infobox seems to say the island's total area is 41 acres, but later, in the body of the article, the area is said to be 0.16 square miles.   tells me that 0.16 sqmi is 100 acres, and 41 hectares.
Other areas are offered.
We need to sort this out.  Geo Swan (talk) 18:45, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Size is still confusing. The infobox lists 2 different acerages, 41.9 and 211, and the article text includes 'Southeast Farallon Island (SEFI) is the largest island, with an area of 95.79 acres' which suggests 41.9 is wrong.Dialectric (talk) 04:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  size 

message: So which is it, Anacapa Island or the Farallon Islands that has the largest Western Gull colony. Both articles do not have a reference for their assertion.
2606:6000:FECD:1400:891F:D69E:6AAB:8673 (talk) 01:40, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Gulls? 

message: Nearly a deacade ago, On 19 January, 2011, Sanfranman59 added some information to the article, most of which seems useful. But it includes the claim that the Farallon Islands were built in 1539. I don't know when God built those islands, but I'm pretty sure it was before 1539.
Was that a prank? Shall I just delete it? NCdave (talk) 19:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Built: 1539 

message: :File:Farallon nuclear waste dumping.png appears to contain errors. I have left details on the file talk page. According to the source, both sites were in deep water. ~Kvng (talk) 18:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dump locations 

message: There seems to be some confusion about the North Farallons.
There is the North Farallon -- the largest at about 125 m long.
Then, to the south is the Island of St. James.  It's about 50 m in diameter.  The article has a bigger number.
Immediately to the east of the Island of St. James is the other larger rock in the set.  It is also about 50 m across.
Then, a bit to the south are the four or so other smaller rocks.
I've added the coord for the three bigger islands.  Can someone reference the three measurements?
Thanks!MikeVdP (talk) 03:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identifying North Farallons