Talk:Microsoft Visio

message: The Features section reads "Microsoft made Visio 2013 for Windows available in two editions: Standard and Professional" and then goes on to mention "Premium" in two places.  Premium was offered in Visio 2010 (according to your Versions list) but not in Visio 2013 (again according to your list).  Shouldn't "Premium" be changed to "Professional" in the Features section?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericp-nh (talk • contribs) 19:38, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Features in non-existent Premium edition 

message: Someone please clarify the pronunciation of "Visio," the page writes, "VIZ-ee-oo, not VIZH-ee-oo" which makes no sense. I'm assuming that this is to clarify that the first 'I' is pronounced as an /i/ in IPA, instead of its English short form.  Biocrite (talk) 09:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The image on this page tells nothing about the function of Visio, or how it might appear in normal use. 72.224.125.143 23:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Would this propertly be categorized as a UML Tool? I can't seem to find how to save a file as UML from Visio...--198.62.72.2 16:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a UML template with some built in features to store data in the objects.  It's not a file format per say, and not the focus of the application.  Kuru talk 23:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UML Tool property? 

message: The 3rd paragraph on this page sounds like an advertisment.
Unlike complicated text and tables, Visio diagrams can be easier for humans to understand. Unlike static pictures, Visio diagrams can import and store data, display it visually, and can be refreshed and reused.
This seems to imply that only Visio has these advantages, whereas most diagramming tools have these advantages. To name 3: OpenOffice.org Draw, Xfig and Dia. This  paragraph would be all right if it as clearly marked as Microsofts tagline but it isn't. I notice already that one section has been removed from the article for more or less the same reaon.
Regards,
XTarget 13:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The intention here appears to be an explanation of what diagramming software is. This could probably be rephrased by removing the word 'Visio' when explaining the concept. Gurupilgrim (talk) 20:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertisment 

message: I noticed that that the Visio logo is in PNG but it appears the transparent color is not quite correct; though I'm not too sure. And it also has a template attached that says it could be stored better in a SVG format. Shouldn't a low resolution PNG suffice, since most Fair Use Rationales cover "Low-resolution" logos, instead of lossless, scalable logos? Danny Sepley 19:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Visio5.PNG I uploaded a pic of Visio 5.0... doesn't fit though. :( Colinstu 13:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visio 5.0 

message: Hallo,
are there any shapes available in Visio 2007 Prof. to create ERMs (I mean those by designed by P. Chen) to design a database. Shapes like relations, entity types, attributes, etc.? Thanks, Djoko  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.24.172.32 (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entity-Relationship-Models 

message: Seriously?  We are using the term "non-free" to describe commercial software on Wikipedia now?  I can hear Bill O'Reilly starting his diatribe already... -Grammaticus Repairo (talk) 07:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What? I have never seen "non-free software" in Wikipedia in my life! Where is it? Fleet Command (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OH! MY! GAWD! Look at the article! It says "Non-free" and links to "Free"!!! What a funny blunder ... I wonder who added this. Fixing it now.Mind you, we do use the term "non-free contents" to refer to images that do not have The Four Freedom. But non-free software? Never saw before!  Fleet Command (talk) 17:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Non-free"? 

message: *Inkscape - free vector graphics multi-platform alternative
*OpenOffice.org Draw
*Dia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurupilgrim (talk • contribs) 20:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not concept-mapping or mind-mapping software. But if you want real free alternatives, see List of concept mapping and mind mapping software. Fleet Command (talk) 07:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it be a good idea to include these on the main page? It could possibly be reworded to include Illustrator as a commercial alternative, although neither Illustrator or Inkscape are actually diagramming software, but more illustration software. We could at least include Draw and Dia though, and possibly mention the other two as more advanced alternatives. Any thoughts? Gurupilgrim (talk) 13:18, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it would be a very bad idea because it is a violation of at least a couple of Wikipedia guidelines. Generally speaking, advertising other software product in one product's article is not allowed. Readers willing to find alternatives can see List of concept mapping and mind mapping software or one of the categories. Fleet Command (talk) 02:57, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. I notice however that there are no references to alternatives in the diagramming software category, when the lead identifies Visio as a diagramming program rather than concept mapping or mind mapping (which I think is accurate since Visio and it's alternatives can be used for a lot more than concept maps). I could see a reason for this being that there is a link in the lead to diagramming software and it is not necessary to include a link twice. I'm new to Wikipedia, so is it common to not include a link that has already been mentioned in the see also section? Gurupilgrim (talk) 17:34, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Common? That is not the least concern. If something is logical, then it is done, common or not. So, I added it. Fleet Command (talk) 00:36, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free alternatives 

message: How does Visio differ from a general purpose 2D drawing tool like Inkscape?  I think it maintains a "boxes connected by lines" model, such that if you move the boxes, the lines stay connected and arrowheads (if any) stop at the edge of the box.  Anyway I'm looking for such a tool, and if Visio does this I think the wiki page ought to mention it.  Jrvz (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My experience is that Visio is first and foremost suited for drawing schemes: mapping interior plans, database scheme (like ERD), UML, flow chart, timelines. It has no or little painting effects (brush type, shadowig, free line drawing) like Inkscape has. I don't know if & how this is sourced in documentation. It is difficult to get such differences from (commercial) documentation. -DePiep (talk) 21:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagramming Capability 

message: Microsoft Visio (/ˈvɪzi.oʊ/ VIZ-zee-oh) (formerly Microsoft Office Visio) is a diagramming and vector graphics application and is part of the Microsoft Office suite.
Microsoft acquired Visio in 2000, re-branding it as a Microsoft Office application, like Microsoft Project; however, it has never been included in any of the Office suites.
These statements are clearly contradictory.  Visio has either been included in Microsoft Office, or it has not.  I don't know which is correct, or I would have fixed it myself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.61.144.180 (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "Suite" became "family". "Brand" may also be used. Codename Lisa (talk) 21:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Above fix seems to have been done in revision 840554365 but the "suite" term is now again used in the text and causing me confusion. According to current MS Office product description Visio is an Office application and has been in at least editions 2007, 2010, 2013. Seems like the "suite" term is used for the boxed bundles previously sold. Accordingly in revision 844830286 I've rephrased to "bundled Office suite" to decrease confusion between "Office application" and "Office suite". Kirkgaard (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obvious contradiction. 

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