Talk:Apollo–Soyuz

message: Per Deke Slayton, and verified by Andrew Chaikin and other space historians, Jack Swigert was in fact assigned to ASTP as CMP, but was removed prior to the official crew announcement as punishment for his involvement in the stamp scandal. The actual grounding wasn't for having actually been involved in the sale of the First Day Covers the A15 crew took with them to the Moon, but for having lied to Deke Slayton about whether he'd had any knowledge of the transaction. Although the NASA PAO recommended that Swigert be removed from the assignment because of his involvement - regardless of how peripheral it was - with the stamp scandal,, Deke Slayton confirmed numerous times before his passing that the actual reason was not that he was involved, but that Swigart had lied to Deke in the face repeatedly when interrogated about said involvement. [unsigned]
:If this is supported with reliable sources, it can be added into the article. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 10:26, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swigert's Removal 

message: In the sentence "The assassination of Kennedy on November 22, 1963 and the removal from office of Khruschev on October 14, 1964, made any personal preferences of the respective leaders moot." the last word moot is a poor choice as there was no longer any need for debate or discussion.
Idyllic press (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That is precisely what the word moot means, though. In American English, anyway. And there really is no other word in (any variety of) English that means exactly what moot does in American English. so... Firejuggler86 (talk) 00:54, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weak language use. 

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I removed the last line because it's a criticism of the Apollo, not of the Soyuz.  Editor  claims that it is in fact a criticism of the Soyuz.
Reasons it is more likely a criticism of the Apollo:
* It's phrased as a limitation ("relied on astronaut piloting").  If it were being presented as a benefit, something like "allowed astronaut piloting" would be much more likely.
* In context in the source, Kraft criticizes the Soyuz, then has this mystery line, and then expresses an issue about both programs, making it likely that he's listing concerns about both of them in the paragraph.
This is an issue of likelihood--there isn't hard evidence either way.  But that means we shouldn't be presenting it as criticism of the Soyuz. Dan Bloch (talk) 03:19, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suitability of a quote 

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message: Something else to consider: In my hometown, we hold an annual Manchester Road Race (in Connecticut, not England) on Thanksgiving day. The race is not over when the winner crosses the finish line, (A dying Stephen Boyd gasps to Charlton Heston, "The race goes on, Judah...it goes on!") since about half the town enters the race, of whom only about half bother to train for a run. The race is not over until the last untrained walker finishes. The US obviously "won" the Space Race when accomplishing the Moon shot, but the "race" (competition) did not in fact end, but the USSR continued with military programs like Almaz, Buran (spacecraft), and Polyus (spacecraft) until it collapsed in 1991. JustinTime55 (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Was the Space Race one race, or a series of races with different goals for each? The US obviously won the Race to the Moon, but is that winning the whole Space Race? Depends on how you look at it. But that's also beyond the scope of this article, and the talk page too. BilCat (talk) 22:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that it is out of scope for this article Ilenart626 (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: When does a race end?