Talk:Dress code

message: This article states "Business casual dress, also "smart casual", is [...]".
However on the Smart casual page it is said that "Smart casual (as distinct from business casual) is [...]".
Which page is the correct?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.248.85 (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction ("Business casual" subsection)

message: This Article's other problems notwithstanding, it jumps from topic to topic, and lists irrelevant information repeatedly. It needs major work, if not a total re-write.
: Agreed. "Clothing can be a deliberate social message, even if none is meant." That's a contradiction. --Muna (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Poorly Written

message: Article is extremely ethnocentric; it's primarily about modern American clothing. If you're going to keep the title, suggest expanding the material. Zora 08:16, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnocentric

message: The content needs to be backed up by REFERENCES. Original research will be deleted. 4.250.132.22 15:14, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please be more specific about the parts of the text that you have doubts about, because you have searched the internet and could not find any confirmation.--Patrick 15:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Read WP:NOR - FrancisTyers 16:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: No original research

message: As it stands, this article is just a random list of free-floating thoughts on the anthropology of Western clothing.  I'm not sure it's salvageable in its current form.  Even if there weren't lots of unverified statements and missing sources, the very organization of the article makes it smack of original research, because it seems to just be "1) here's a topic i thought of" "1a) here's an aspect of that topic i thought of" etc.  Apollo58 19:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that it is relevant, but I did not create this article, as you can see in the page history. Also e.g. dress-code is not covered (not even mentioned) by clothing.--Patrick 00:38, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Poorly organized

message: How about moving the relevant portions (which is not everything) to articles like Legal restrictions on public dress (by country) and Commercial restrictions on customer dress (by country). If we don't specify by country, ethnocentrism creeps in. Perhaps there are some books or online resources that treat these issues. Just setting up Dress code would be a poor stop-gap. Zora 01:17, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see that you have, as a re-direct. Zora 01:17, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: If you use ambitious titles, make sure to add enough content to fit those titles.--Patrick 09:58, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  That means you don't want to do any moves? Zora 10:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The titles suggest there is a section for each country. That would be nice (although I am not sure whether commercial restrictions on customer dress can suitably arranged by country), but a wish for expansion of the content is not enough a basis for these names.--Patrick 20:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Creating empty sections does not seem a good idea.--Patrick 22:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: It is not about the US or UK in particular. On the whole the content is either general or in the form "this is sometimes the case". If needed you can add in applicable paragraphs "in some countries" and/or "however, in .., ..".--Patrick 23:51, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are writing about dress codes based on your experiences, hence your observations are valid ONLY for the social sphere in which you move. You can't just assume that the rest of the world doesn't exist! Believe me, there are different dresscodes out there! In Tonga, showing my calves was provocative; in the US, it's routine. In Tonga, it's ILLEGAL for men to appear in public without shirts; in the US, there is no such law. You are a "native informant", to use anthro-speak, only within the context in which you are native. So you have to tell us what that context is. If you're not willing to specify exactly WHERE these dress codes apply, or do any research to support your observations, then this article fails any reasonable test of encyclopedic usefulness. You're just using Wikispace to put up a personal essay. Zora 01:44, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If people come up with a very small country for a counterexample, that looks like a confirmation of the content being fairly universal. Anyway, I added a line about Tonga.--Patrick 02:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

text: It is not clear which text this contradicts. Anyway, you are welcome to add this kind of info.--Patrick 11:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly support the idea because it's US-centristic. In central Europe, there are no dress codes at public schools unless they have school uniforms. Saemikneu (talk) 20:33, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: By country

message: But is there really a need for four hundred banners proclaiming this in the face of the reader? Joffeloff 22:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently since fixed. -- Beland 21:07, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a POV-section tag to the "Nudity..." section. Between it's lack of content and opinion-biased second paragraph, the section needs to be reviewed, revised, expanded, or just removed. Wolfraem 02:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Okay, so it may not be neutral 

message: I propose moving this article to dress code which currently redirects to here. It's already about that, dress code is an actual word. This is not heavily visited. Dress code is more important.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwarf Kirlston (talk • contribs) 12:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While an article on the "social aspects of clothing" might be warranted, this article, introduction notwithstanding is primarily about "dress code." —  AjaxSmack  21:42, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to "Dress code"

message: I had completely forgotten about those signs at mall entrances. While they were largely ignored by westerners, some did abide by the request of the Qatari people. It makes an excellent addition to the article to illustrate different cultures approaches to dress codes in different locales/venues.Wzrd1 (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sign from Qatar 

message: Who wrote this crap? The entire article reads like a personal essay from the perspective of a middle school kid, jumping from one bizarre opinionated statement to another, with hardly any statements having citations, or proper citations that actually meet Wikipedia guidelines. This is to say nothing of the rampant grammatical atrocities littered throughout.
Can anyone elevate the article to a more urgent class? Maybe a more competent editor will come along and rewrite it from scratch. 98.86.114.104 (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal essay 

message: I suggest we add something to the article that shows how not only kids rebelled against dress code in the “Rebellion against dress code” sections, but how parents rebelled against it too.  Madisoncupples (talk) 19:36, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parents against dress code  

message: I have assigned myself this article for a class project and plan to do a lot of major reworking. Edits will be made for tone, quality, and accuracy. If you can find source info please put it in. I will be looking for my own reliable sources and working them in, deleting the biased and wrong information. Kayla Andr. (talk) 04:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Revisons

message: There should be no dress codes 74.96.217.65 (talk) 00:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Codes 

message: I can't stand "dress codes", what a load of rubbish! If I'm going to a fancy/poncy/posh event (with family) I wear what I think is appropriate for it and I've never had any issues. 51.7.117.129 (talk) 00:33, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree with 74.96.217.65 

message: i dont know what else to write here
maybe it could be renamed or merged into something else? Porcupo (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Laws and social norms" isn't about either but how they vary by location 

message: — Assignment last updated by AndrewLiu5 (talk) 00:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Writing 10 Dean