Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh/Archive 9

message: The existence of Shahumian creates problems. According to the NKR and its maps, it's an integral part of the NKR, even if it's completely under Azeri control. This means the borders of the NKR do not perfectly match the borders of the NKAO, which means some maps need changing. It makes me think again that, maybe the NKR info should be split off into another article? --Golbez 22:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a thought. I haven't toyed with colored borders yet, but I have included legends. (see :Image:Cyprus districts named.png and :Image:Israel districts named.png), but since there was no whitespace in this map, and to keep it small, I had thought it best not to. I can add whitespace to the bottom though and put the legend there. --Golbez 01:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It looks good, I wonder if I should integrate it into the map image or just leave it in caption. I'll put some color border around it. --Golbez 06:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: No one? No thoughts? --Golbez 05:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: What’s the point in having two articles on the same topic? Grandmaster 18:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they aren't the same topic. The former Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast and the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic claim two different (though mostly overlapping) land masses; an example would be how the nation of Ireland and the island of Ireland have two separate articles, while the nation and island of Iceland share their articles; the first two, though they have the same name, are not coterminous, whereas the second two are. The former NKAO and the NKR are not coterminous; therefore, perhaps the articles should be split. --Golbez 21:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shahumian, split? 

message: I relisted the old RfC on this dispute, as it still was in the list of active ones. Just moved it up the top and added that the dispute still has not been resolved. We can also discard an old one and start a new one, it's just time consuming to fill in those forms. Check it here: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Nagorno-Karabakh Grandmaster 06:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC 

message: Am I the only one involved in this article at the moment who has neither been anywhere near the region (the nearest I've gotten is London), nor has any Armenian/Azeri/Turkic/Persian/Russian blood in him? :) I notice some of you speaking with great familiarity of the region and the people, something I lack. --Golbez 21:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also Francis, but he's here only when called upon.--Eupator 23:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about that, I've been accused of having an Armenian mother certainly! :) Regarding the world cup below, I was really disappointed when Serbia and Montenegro screwed up so badly... How often do you get to support a country which does not exist :) - FrancisTyers · 08:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Although I am mostly Armenian and part Hungarian, I live in the United States as a resident of Cleveland (hence my username). I was rooting for the United States, but I kind of wish Armenia would have at least made it in the FIFA World Cup, oh well, I can always hope.  BTW, wasn't one of the players on Iran's team an Armenian?  I couldn't help but notice that distinct "ian" at the end of his name on the back of his uniform. -- Clevelander 23:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, it looks like there were three: Andranik Teymourian, Vahid Hashemian, and Hassan Roudbarian. -- Clevelander 23:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Only Andranik is Armenian, the others are muslim hence by default not Armenian, in addition some Iranians also have -ian last name.--Eupator 23:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see.  I never knew that, actually. -- Clevelander 23:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Armenians always perform well individually than in groups -- that's why we always lose the soccer games and win the chess tournaments ;)--MarshallBagramyan 06:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Just curious

message: This is just a temp one, just to see what people think. I also have a version with the line of control, but it's garish and works much better as a regional map, rather than focused only on Nagorno-Karabakh, but I can put that one up and see what people think if you like. Also, does anyone know if they are districts, divisions, provinces, marz, whatever? And, finally, is anyone else annoyed that I'm removing the dot for the city of Shusha mainly because it's redundant in a zoomed-in map like this? Also, my reasoning for which rayons to name was those which border or are part of NKR. --Golbez 01:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The map in its current form is better than all previous versions. And self-proclaimed on a map, that can be saved or otherwise attracts more attention than the article is a must - it's also standard practice on all such maps and doesn't take much space. --AdilBaguirov 09:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New map with legend