Talk:Shiitake

message: I think that shiitake mashrooms are served in Simmered Dishes (Nimono) rather than miso soup.
I haven't eat miso soup with shiitake mashrooms(My mother is Japanese).
:Shiitake mushrooms can be used to make the dashi (broth) for miso soup, and also can be used, sliced very thin, to add to the soup as a vegetable.  Badagnani 17:11, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Use in miso soup

message: How can shiitake cultivation have begun in three different time periods (as most recent edit states): Ming Dynasty, Sung Dynasty, and in 199 CE?  This doesn't make sense.  Also, please add sources for this very specific information.  Badagnani 17:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: fair point I say, time to slap on Template:Contradict-section 67.160.10.87 04:57, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, first of all the section is a copyvio of the two cited sources and those sources obviously disagree on just when shiitake mushroom cultivation started.  (However, the 199 AD reference is a record of them being eaten, which is different than cultivated -- this part isn't contradictory).   This whole section needs to be reworded to 1) indicate that sources disagree on when cultivation occurred and 2) to not be a copyvio.   Just my 2 cents.  -- ShinmaWa(talk) 05:12, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Wonderful!  Badagnani 05:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

text: In this name: Wu Sang Kwuang, the romanization "Kwuang" must be wrong, at least according to pinyin.  Can we get the hanzi for this?  Badagnani 05:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates/sources 

message: This article would benefit from a taxonomy box.  See the morel article for an example. 67.160.10.87 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I did my best.  Can a botanist check it?  I don't know why nobody made a taxobox before now.  Badagnani 05:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  taxonomy box? 

message: Shouldn't the article just be "Shiitake"?  (Doesn't "-take" mean "mushroom"?)  It would be like having an article called "Fujiyama Mountain" ("-yama" meaning "mountain").  Badagnani 18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this should be changed 4hodmt 09:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of article 

message: I've known Shitake to be said when someone begins to say shit only to realise that they shouldn't swear in the current situation (eg. school). I expected this to have already been added.
--211.28.237.112 13:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swearing 

message: Can anyone provide statistics on the amount of Vitamin D claimed to be provided by Shiitake?  All online records and surveys I can find either don't mention it at all or record negligible content. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.175.75 (talk • contribs) 
:It's supposed to be not Vitamin D itself, but ergosterol, a precursor to Vitamin D that is presumably converted to Vitamin D once in the body after ingestion.  I agree that further sources should be found.  Do a search for shiitake and ergosterol and see what you can find.  Badagnani 21:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a source (that I should get around to adding-- Mycelium Running by Paul Stamets) that states that the mushrooms contain ergosterol if cultivated indoors, but that if they are turned gills up and exposed to UV light for a day after harvest, it is converted to vitamin D. But there are other vegan sources of vitamin D including some strains of torula yeast. Crypticfirefly 22:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vitamin D

message: What I said. ffs it is marked 'requires cleanup'. lol. -- Planetfck (talk) 11:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Um wtf is the page locked??? 

message: Badagnani reverted my removal of a number of commercial links with the comment:
thanks, please read the discussion (have you?), and you'll see that the actual labeling of this mushroom and food items made with it is what was in question.
If we are referring to general usage of the word, we should cite reliable sources which are based on scholarly research, ideally corpus studies.  I cited OED and American Heritage Dictionary, as well as the Cook's Thesaurus link you posted.  What is the significance of the other links? The fourth link doesn't even mention Shiitake, the fifth link is a shopping site. Dforest (talk) 02:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's much better if you discuss first. Have you read the page history yet, as asked several times? Once you've done that, we can discuss. It's much better if editors take time to familiarize themselves with the evolution of a page rather than sweeping through, "fixing" things that were not broken. Badagnani (talk) 02:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

text: An editor stated that it really isn't called shiitake in the English-speaking world. The links prove that it, in fact, is--in its most widely encountered form--actual places from which is available to the public. This is not just important, it is of key importance in proving that the term is the primary one used for this foodstuff in English-speaking regions. Regarding the link you stipulate contains nothing about shiitake, please look again. Badagnani (talk) 02:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The link includes a photo of a commercial product produced in an English-speaking country, which bears the name "shiitake." This is an important proof that such products exist, and use this name. When I added it it was not as "spam," and any implication that I did so is highly out of line! Badagnani (talk) 03:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Category:Wikipedia spam cleanup
Dforest (talk) 03:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

text: As you can see, there was an editor claiming that "shiitake" is not the most widely used name in English-speaking regions. One or two links was not going to be enough for him/her; the variety of the links shows the diversity of products sold under the name. Badagnani (talk) 03:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial links 

message: The article states that this mushroom is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake", and uses the Oxford English Dictionary as the source of this claim. However the Oxford English Dictionary merely gives a simple one sentence definition for the word, there is nothing that says it is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake". Therefore I have remove the reference and put a source need tag on the claim.
In any case, I think the name of this mushroom would vary according to region. In my part of the English-speaking world, it is generally called a "Chinese mushroom". 94.197.197.89 (talk) 18:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of this mushroom in the English-speaking world 

message: This part of the article has been flagged as biased.  However all that is presented is Shiitake research that has been published.  Any research showing lack of therapeutic effect or toxicity is not being blocked, so my view is this portion of the page should have its banner removed.  Any opinions for or against removal of the banner is welcome below. Jatlas (talk) 22:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Shiitake research

message: ...seriously.
Come on... it's been beaten to death. No need to flag an edit describing the word's relationship to the popular scatological saying as "possible vandalism."
68.190.23.11 (talk) 04:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's only the mispronunciation and misplaced syllable break of American English to say "shit" that causes the vulgarity. The correct original Japanese pronunciation and syllables are "shee" "tahkay". Play the audio under Taxonomy. --Zefr (talk) 14:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think an edit describing the word's relation to the popular vulgarity "shit" is reasonable 

message: The Japanese listen file sounds like "see" -- not "shee" -- to me. 173.90.65.191 (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The bag of fresh mushrooms in a market are *not* Shiitake. Roger (talk) 12:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What are they then? 2A00:23C6:BE86:B401:B949:F67:4B6C:716E (talk) 11:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery photo not Shiitake 

message: There appears to exist a dramatic contrast between the micronutrient values for raw shiitake mushrooms as contrasted with dried shiitake mushrooms.  Does anyone know the reason? Whynot8 (talk) 15:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Whynot8 Yes, the values are contrasting, however the contrast is not that dramatic... Values in raw 1.4-8.0 times less (5.2 in average) than in dried. Nevertheless, the contrast may be explained by the following answer: https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/faq.html#q9 Tosha Langue (talk) 17:32, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the response.  It helps to appreciate the dynamic nature of food testing. Whynot8 (talk) 20:44, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The main reason for nutrient content differences between raw and dried mushrooms is the water content - 90% for raw and 9%  for dried, i.e., during measurement, there is about a 10-fold dilution in raw samples or, differently expressed for dried, a 10-fold concentration, with other factors still present, as explained in the above USDA ref. Zefr (talk) 20:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense,  Thanks. Whynot8 (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re micronutrient values presented 

message: Is there a reason why the names are not list chronologically? 115.70.254.101 (talk) 10:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of synonyms