Talk:Main Page/Archive 33

message: # dab (ᛏ) 08:18, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Use the [[Template:Wikipedialang (word count)|other languages by word count template]]

message: # GeorgeStepanek\talk  01:34, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep word counts for each language

message: # Tom- 01:29, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Use the [[Template:Wikipedialang|other languages by article count template]]

message: #Scott Gall 06:59, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Highest category is 100,000+

message: # GeorgeStepanek\talk  01:34, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Highest category is 50,000+

message: # GeorgeStepanek\talk  01:34, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lowest category is 1000+

message: * Kiand 02:59, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lowest category is 500+

message: jeez...when editing articles people are mean- bstar
yes...it's their standard deviation from societal norms - Blair P. Houghton
All contributors are expected to show respect and consideration for one another, as a norm. If they do not, they earn a reputation for poor citizenship, to use an old-fashioned term. See Wikipedia:WikiLove for one of the founding principles of the community, dating back to the founding of the Wikipedia, and perhaps before that. Ancheta Wis 23:48, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: if it is the mode to be mean then that is a deviation (for Poisson statistics) Ancheta Wis 03:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  mean 

message: It's great to have a concise intro, but I'm missing the links to CSS-free and textonly version of the main page. Shouldn't they be readily available to our readers without too much searching around? Mgm|(talk) 10:47, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
:The table-free link at the top of Main Page in turn has a link to the text-only Main Page. Ancheta Wis 21:40, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is now a redirect with dashes instead of underscores to the Main-Page-(text-only). If you are using a PDA without the underscore character, it may be simpler to enter the entire URL for an article with a single word as the title, such as Science. I can report that the Palm wireless PDA's can get to this article. Ancheta Wis 08:44, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening section

message: To whoever edits the front page...
"Did you know..." today (1/6/05) starts off:
::From Wikipedia's newest articles:
::East and West Memorial Buildings, Ottawa, Canada
::    * ...that the East and West Memorial Buildings in Ottawa, Canada were originally built in 1949 to house the rapidly growing Department of Veterans Affairs?
Clicking "Department of Veterans Affairs" takes one promptly to this article. Clearly the US isn't housing offices in Ottawa just yet, David Foster Wallace hypotheses aside. Should be linked to Department of Veterans Affairs (Canada).
:Thanks for pointing this out. It's fixed now.-gadfium 23:00, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so you know, anyone can edit the "Did you know..." section. It's not obvious to those who are new to Wikipedia but it is a tempalte (which is not protected) which is included in the main page (which is protected). Much of the contents on the main page can be edited by anyone. - Jeltz talk 23:06, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  US hasn't conquered Canada. Yet. 

message: Maybe this should be in the navigation bar and discussed on the mediawiki site, but there ought to be an easy way to search other namespaces easily from the main page.  The only way I've found so far is to search for a nonexistent article, which brings up a search page with checkboxes for namespaces.  I don't want to search other namespaces by default. --Theodore Kloba 15:13, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
: Go to Special:Preferences, click "Search result settings" and change "Search in these namespaces by default". Tom- 19:48, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Reread the last sentence of my previous comment.  I don't want to search other namespaces by default.  I just want to do it occasionally without a bunch of gymnastics.--Theodore Kloba 22:09, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)
What's silly is that hitting "Search" without typing anything in doesn't take you to a generic search page, but instead an oblique error message. --Fastfission 05:33, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: I filed a bug on that a while back. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:54, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More search options? 

message: Yes.  I know.  But there are lots of people out there who are *not* geophysicists.  :-)  Might we expand the Special by those 2 words?  -- Baylink 20:24, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Am dummy.  Missed that this was a template. -- Baylink 21:26, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SUGGESTION: Earthquake "and tsunamis" 

message: Not knowing how to edit the main page, I am using this forum to correct an error.  The Hejaz is NOT "present day Saudi Arabia".  Saudi Arabia occupies almost the entire Arabian Peninsula.  The Hejaz is the smaller region on the eastern shore of the Red Sea that includes the cities of Medina and Mecca. Too Old 06:49, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)
:Thank you for highlighting that. The error has been fixed, and if it does not appear corrected to you, try reloading the page. You win a cookie. - Mark 08:28, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error about Saudi Arabia 

message: I've moved the donation box down. It's been two weeks since the disaster, unless anyone's been living under a rock they'll have heard about it and heard for calls for donations - and probably donated if they've wanted to. Tom- 00:48, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't agree at first glance, but your point of it being two weeks now is very true. violet/riga (t) 00:51, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find it on the main page now. I think it should be on for longer. People need reminding and don't all finish donating by two weeks. If there's room for stuff like this: "...that the racy George Michael song I Want Your Sex touted monogamy instead of promiscuity? " then I think the donation box is more important. A constant "update on the disaster" link would be appropriate for sometime to come, linking to a page like this. WikiUser 21:42, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earthquake donation box 

message: I saw a swear word so I deleted it.--67.68.15.69 20:45, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  huh? 

message: How come the main page changed to a new screen (www.wikipedia.org).
I liked it better when it simply came up to the page with the search box, news, and articles.
Now it comes up to a language selection screen, which takes a while to load, from where I have to select my language to go to the original main page, which is also slow.
Is there a way to set a cookie or have the webpage simply go to the proper language website, based on the user's previous choices and browser configuration? I mean when I enter www.wikipedia.org for a URL, not set a homepage to the actual domain, or create a special bookmark.
:I fixed this by my hosts file to have www.wikipedia.org point to en.wikipedia.org's IP address.  --I am not good at running 00:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Because if the language selection was done automagically in the background, the casual user would not know how sensitive and inclusive we all are, and would not know that we are aware that there are other languages besides english.  It is better this way in that we get to make a display of our sensitivity.
Bahhh, the hosts file thing doesn't work after all.  After quick observation, it seems the IP addresses of www.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org seem to change every few minutes.  What the hell?  Is there any way I can tell my system or even just Firefox -- hell, my LinkSys router if I have to -- to automatically reference en.wikipedia.org whenever www.wikipedia.org is referenced?  This is stupid.  I want to be able to get the English wikipedia from any instance of the referenced www. prefix via a solution that actually works.  Any ideas?  --I am not good at running 01:14, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: The IP address changes every few minutes because we have multiple servers that answer to a single domain name. A common setup for high-traffic sites. -- Cyrius|✎ 07:47, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Page redirect and recent slowness 

message: The page for Pompey says "in the spring of 49 BC Caesar crossed the Rubicon and invaded Italy with his thirteenth legion". --Paraphelion 02:28, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  conflict with information on Pompey 

message: On the .org portal page, Wikinews' address needs to have an en in it, not just an n.  --  user:zanimum
: Anyone can edit the portal - it's at m:Www.wikipedia.org portal. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 17:05, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikinews link slightly off

message: why are we back to ungrammatical
:Started in 2001, we are currently working on 449425 English articles.
?? don't tell me it won a poll or something. How can we convince people there is anything of value in WP when even the first sentence is wrong. Or is this in the spirit of "weeding out elitism since 2001"? dab (ᛏ) 18:35, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like how it says "we are currently working on..." maybe put "English Wikipedia started in 2001, we now have 449425 articles." instead. Squash 02:04, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually love that part: it dispells the illusion that you will find anything lik 450k encyclopedic articles here. We have no 'finished' articles, of course, but if you want to count articles that are by some standard encyclopedic, we now have 478. dab (ᛏ) 18:13, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: whut?

message: to Wikipedia :) I love this project.
Also, what happened to the article counter?
: NM, it's back
:It was temporarily removed to make way for the birthday message. Things have been redesigned however and now it's back. --fvw<SMALL>*</SMALL> 01:30, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)
::I created a birthday banner, Template:Birthdaynotice, but on second thought I moved it to Template:Main Page banner so we needn't create another template for every occasion. I'd suggest, however, that the banner be commented out rather than deleted to make it easy to re-enable next time it becomes necessary. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 02:40, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What of those who would be ultra-confused by a page with not a single word they can understand? This was, until a few weeks ago, the situation of any given monolingual Chinese speaker after typing "www.wikipedia.org". The world doesn't revolve around en.wikipedia - we may be the biggest, but the others are big. --Node 09:58, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: in case you mean the portal page, see above, and meta:Talk:Www.wikipedia.org_portal. It's experimental, and will react to browsers' language preference setting. dab (ᛏ) 10:10, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that a response to my criticisms? Adam 05:42, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Happy Birthday 

message: Hello All
I'm a new visitor to this site, having only just discovered it a few weeks ago.  For this reason please excuse this comment if it infringes any pre-defined rules on suggesting new changes.  In this same spirit, please excse it if it has been porposed before.  It is late, and I have not yet had time to peruse the site for all of the rules on proposed changes etc.
I have used the Wikipedia intensively since I discovered it just over six weeks ago.  In general, I have found every single article to be concise, informative and very well written.  The links have been exceptionally helpful and have always led me on many an interesting diversion.
I do have one suggestion to improve the usefulness and integrity of the site though and it is pretty fundamental.  My suggestion is actually more of a question - Is it possible to automate the generation of hyperlinks so that every word within the text of an article is checked against every topic in the Wikipedia to determine whether or not a link should be established ?
In conjunction with this - Is it possible to establish a set of synonyms and associations for each topic to aid the above process so that the checking does not miss anything just because it is worded the wrong way ?
For example - I might write a 4,000 word essay on King James I of England.  Upon submission, the hyperlink checker would check every word in the article against every entry in the Wikipedia and create hperlinks for all known entries.  It would also create links for related entries - for example, King James I of England also refers to King James VI of Scotland.  The word "King" might also link to the word "Monarch" and so on.
Of course, the automated hyperlinks may be manually vetted by  human operator to cull any irrelevant links (eg - "Monarch" => Monarch Butterfly" etc) but the process would still save thousands of man hours and produce a much richer document.
You may think that this may lead to nearly every word becoming a hyperlink but in fact that is the goal - to have every single word and phrase in every article become some sort of searchable reference.  I know that this is a pretty major ask but if it is possible then imagine the possibilities - an endlessly searchable database of the entire sum of all knowledge.
Please comment on this topic as I will be checking regularly - as I said, I'm new to tis site and am not sure what the correct protocol is in this regards.  Again, please excuse any errors in etiquette that I may have committed.
Thank you or your time.
rory@romad.com.au
:there are some bots around who do this, and dump their suggestions on talk pages (its User:LinkBot, see Wikipedia:Bots; ). you don't want them to insert links automatically, because most of them will be irrelevant to the context (link-spam). (btw, this inquiry would belong on Wikipedia:Village pump. dab (ᛏ) 16:50, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested new method for hyperlinking 

message: There is a typo on the front page (which I am unable to edit personally). Where it says: "the unrest over the goverment's new taxes", it is meant to read "the unrest over the government's new taxes".
Thank you Bobo192 04:10, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, fixed. You could have fixed this yourself at Template:In the news.-gadfium 04:22, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Typo

message: It was 1985, wasn't it?
:Fixed. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 15:44, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biggest charity concert since Live Aid 1984? 

message: Me (and in fact all the collaborators of Galician Wikipedia) are no happy with the related translation made for "Galician" in the wikipedia languages list performed above. The real translation for Galician in Galician is "GALEGO", not "gallego". Even wherever you may see the mistaken "gallego", never has been a Galician word. I only ask to whom who may concern to change please this error (as I don't know how to change it). Many thanks and best wishes.
Sobreira User
:I have asked for Template:Wikipedialang to be unprotected so that this change can be made.  —AlanBarrett 17:34, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asking for changing a language name mistake from Galician Wikipedia 

message: In the "This day in history" section, "beter" should be "better." --Fermatprime 11:10, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fixed. For the record, though, you can fix that yourself, too (and doing so takes less time than writing about it here :)). -- Schnee (cheeks clone) 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo, Episode II 

message: Although the Wikipedia logo was not doubled up in Firefox, it was in IE when MediaWiki 1.4 came out. Now it looks good; Congratulations on the fix! Ancheta Wis 22:24, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Logo is not doubled-up. Good! 

message: Under Selected anniversaries for January 25 is listed "Tu Bishvat in Israel". Since Tu Bishvat is a general Jewish holiday, and thus not only relevant or celebrated in Israel, the words "in Israel" should not be used here. Furthermore this is correctly portrayed in the January 25 page, so I don't understand why it has been written up as such for Selected anniversaries. --jnothman 01:15, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated, but you can always fix those yourself, too :). 68.81.231.127 10:55, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected anniv (Jan 25): "Tu Bishvat in Israel" 

message: Why are links in the sidebar (along with some others) no longer underlined?  Shouldn't they be consistent with the choice made by the user?  It looks wrong to be to have them without the underline. violet/riga (t) 19:09, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sidebar underlining 

message: Hello everyone, this is my first time to this web site.  
I have a project to do and I need some answors. Please!
My son was born in Augest 2002 and Im doing his baby book
It ask me questions like:
                     **Important National events
                     **Current national Leaders
                     ** Important worldwide leaders
                     **Best-selling books and authors
                     
  And the price of things:
                          MIlk, Gas ,ect
Can someone please help me to where i know to look this information up?????
:See our article August 2002 for a list of important events in that year. If you want events in your city, go to your public library, ask for the newspaper reading room, and ask for the local newspaper for August 2002. For other events in 2002, see :Category:2002, and from there you'll find articles and subcategories such as :Category:2002 books and List of state leaders in 2002.
:I can't help you on the price of things, except that the grocery/supermarket advertisments in the local paper for August 2002 might be useful. If you reply to this, include your location and other people may be able to give you web resources for local information.-gadfium 00:19, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important Information needed Please 

message: >>Feb 20th, 2k5 ::Each web page should have a warning/disclaimer ikon prominently placed on it indicating the possible unreliability of the written contents. [elyah_ @ eSefardi]<<
:There is discussion in and around these heah parts going on about creating a tiered implementation of this wiki, possibly with something in the vein of an "undisputed" if not "indisputable" version being offered somehow, somewhere, someetc. -Ozzyslovechild 02:55, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: www.wikipedia.org

message: run this night over the 50,000. Can anyone change it and place it in the head group? Thanks
:Well you learn something new everyday: as an English speaker, I have just learned that Nederland is Dutch for The Netherlands, but that Nederlands is Dutch for Dutch! If this type of subtlety arises everyday between native and learned speakers of any language, can you imagine the miscommunication that basically arises everyday in the Wikipedia? Yet Wikipedia keeps growing. (Congratulations for the 50,000.) Ancheta Wis 17:38, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: next runner-up (for this completely arbitrary threshold :p) will be :es: (now at 40k). dab (ᛏ) 17:33, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Dutch wikipedia 

message: one of the disadvantages of not being able to edit the main page is not being able to remove vandelism such as the erect penis photo shown now.
:You can: see Template:In the news. I've just reverted it, however. — Dan | Talk 14:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well then how did it get vandalized? Never mind.  I get it. --Blair P. Houghton 00:54, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  one of the disadvantages of not being able to edit the main page 

message: This has probably has been suggested before... if not tried somewhere.  But why isn't there a rating system for the articles?  This would create a feedback loop to ensure high quality material.  When explaining some ridiculously complex theorem the writer could check back to see if her explanation was useful and edit it accordingly.  It would also give a good idea of where improvements could be made.
:It seems like the only useful ratings would be ones with accompanying explanations of what's good/bad about the article, and isn't that what the talk page is for? --brian0918 13:50, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Ratings 

message: I don't think the Super Bowl turnout should be on the main page, let alone the top story.
:It's a major event which is relevant to one country. So, of course, is the death of the Georgian PM or the election of a Thai prime minister. Don't worry, it'll be gone soon. — Dan | Talk 04:27, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well said. BLANKFAZE | (что??) 05:45, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Bowl? 

message: The Chinese Wikipedia (zh:) has just passed 20,000 articles and also deserves promotion to the Premier League. How long before it overtakes the English Wiki I wonder? -- RHaworth 13:00, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC)
:-__- dude, i don't think that's ever going to happen...or at least for another 10 years...
:but honestly, with close to half a million articles (and that's the amount of legit ones.. in total there are close to 1.5 million articles in the English version) and only 20 thousand for the chinese, it WILL take a long time.
:also, typing chinese can be a pain in the butt if you don't know the most efficient way 142.58.181.84 21:03, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Wikipedia 

message: "The Al-Aqsa intifada ends..."
Um, yeah. That's a bit optimistic, ain't it? I'd hate for us to have to eat crow in a few days. --Penta 23:49, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aren't we being a bit...optimistic? 

message: Is anyone else bothered by the number of different fonts in the first seven lines of the main page?
dcm
*Well, I have my user css set, so it's all the same font, arial unicode ms... but I didn't think there was more than one font on the main page...? BLANKFAZE | (что??) 04:05, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  a font too far 

message: Would anyone mind me adding the Wikiportal link to the following list at the top of the main page? Browse Wikipedia - Article overviews - Alphabetical index - Other category schemes.
I think the portals are very helpful surfing aids for readers. Mgm|(talk) 12:15, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
:It doesn't seem to be finished for the Main Page yet. It doesn't have to be perfect, but this doesn't seem to cover very much. Also, to link to it from that section, I think the page should be totally reader-oriented with the process of expanding it moved to another page. ✏ Sverdrup 15:59, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OTOH, these pages might get 'finished' sooner with more visitors.  I don't think the people interested in say Biology or Information technology will have necessarily have interest in setting up the History, Politics, etc portals. :)--Sketchee 06:28, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
As for reader-oriented, I disagree. Besides, categories which are linked from the main page have stub subcategories, which also makes them editor-oriented in some way. We want people interested in specific fields to contribute, not just to read. Wikiportals are to function as both the main page and the community portal for specific topics. Ausir 08:21, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Wikiportal]] 

message: Hello, first of all sorry if this doesn't go here...
My aim is to create a web interface that holds a collaborative editor, so a text would be presented and you could enter the translation (the basic problem is being collaborative, that is, many people simultaneously editing). Maybe could be identificated users, but not necessarily.
Recently I worked with a wiki for a student work and I suppose MediaWiki could be the technology I need, but it also fits with the CMS concept.
I have searched by the web and I conclude those six could be good choices. Which one could suit me? -Plone -Silva -Mambo -OpenPHPNuke -OpenCMS -and of course, Mediawiki
I see Mambo is very used, but also Mediawiki with all the wikimedia ; Plone and Silva are Zope-based and seem good, but maybe too powerful for my needs? (it's only a portal, the main problem is the workflow-simultaneous edit problem...) Seems also that OpenPHPNuke and OpenCMS are also very popular.
Other suggestions? Some advices?
Thanks in advance
Jordi
:See this comparitive review of several wikis, and also see m:MediaWiki reviews.-gadfium 22:26, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tough decision indeed.  I tend to want to give a fair bit of weight to the long-term prospects of the driving entity, and MediaWiki has a lot in that area, with the staggering number of people vested in the long-term prospects of Wikipedia itself.  Wikimedia is a long-term pony to bet on.  But that comes at somewhat of a price.  MediaWiki will likely forever be tied to Wikipedia's best interest.  Or at least close enough for hand grenades to forever.  If I saw heavy activy pushing for some implementation of WYSIWIG editing, I would say it's close to a no-brainer for MediaWiki, but I don't.  There's a fair bit of talk, but it's not a priority enough that it's even on the roadmap last I peeked.  Unless you're planning on doing the lifting on that yourself of course (there are some bits findable around here that speak to hacking a WYSI on top of MediaWiki) or your audience is known and known not to be put off by learning markup, of course. -Ozzyslovechild 02:48, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seeking a CMS (MediaWiki?) 

message: From Did you know?: 
:"...that Polish girls wear red lingerie underneath their dresses during a studniówka, an equivalent of senior prom?"
That I know of, senior prom is an American institution -- so shouldn't it be identified as such?  Citing it in "Did you know" as a kind of common point of reference is bothering me, though I realize the complaint is perhaps a bit petty. -- Oarih 18:08, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed - though I could look it up on Wikipedia, I, as an Irishman who doesn't watch cheesy teenage girl films, do not rightly know what a senior prom is (but for its prominence in cheesy teenage films). 23:25, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "equivalent to senior prom" 

message: I just thought of an idea for a new wiki. This wiki would be all about lyrics and scripts.
* Most current lyrics and movie scripts are copyrighted, and therefore you would have problems with copyright infringement if you would post them in a WikiMedia wiki. Wikisource would probably gladly accept lyrics and scripts that are public domain or GFDL, though. -- Marcika 03:58, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New wiki? 

message: The quality of In The News section has plummeted since only Wikiclique-approved news stories were allowed - XED.talk 12:56, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yet you haven't suggested things at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates... violet/riga (t) 13:01, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why bother? I expect the In the News section will soon restrict itself to Babylon 5 and Discworld conventions, US sports events and the latest releases of Linux. - XED.talk 13:14, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And you base that silly view on...?  Just try and work with the new system. violet/riga (t) 13:43, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: wikiclique, schmikiclique. the candidate system became necessary because of goatse-vandalism, and I don't think anybody is enjoying the additional work. You are welcome to bitch once your good-faith suggestion has been turned down. dab (ᛏ) 16:26, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality of In The News section 

message: If the reversion keeps happening and Wikipedia keeps rising up the Alexa rankings, Witold Pilecki may become one of the most famous Europeans of the 20th century. Wincoote 03:02, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Witold Pilecki's place in history

message: Maybe it is a good news for the english main page, that the german Wikipedia today got its 200.000th entry. It is the second Wikipedia version following the english one. The last german 100.000 entries came in the last 8 months. Best regards, Stern 10:24, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Way neat! --mav 22:37, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  German version: 200000 entries! 

message: The www.buysafe.com site is trying to hijack the wikipedia name. I'm at an airport's browser. Ancheta Wis 21:03, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikopedia - www.buysafe.com 

message: There's a minor vandalism above the table of contents on this very talk page and I can't for the life of me figure out how to fix it. 
: Ah, it was fixed before I hit Save Page.  I'd still like to know how to go about fixing that. :) Cigarette 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be Template:Main Page discussion header (see Wikipedia:Templates for more information). — Dan | Talk 22:56, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see the vandalism in that page's history, so what you're probably looking for is the "edit this page" link at the very top of this page. If the vandalism was above the TOC, you'll find it in the page source just above the first header (headers look ==like this==). — Dan | Talk 22:58, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, must've had a brain fart when I was looking at the Talk:Main Page history.  Thanks.  :D  Cigarette 04:30, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Vandalism: Main Page Talk 

message: If a brand new user winds up on the homepage, and happens to be captivated by Today's Featured Article, enticed as it were to delve,, and if they were to click on the most captivating thing for many if not most readers of blurbs-with-pics on the web (the pic), where would they find themselves?  
Frequently, mostly, they find themselves looking at a larger version of the pic and reading about licensing.
Does this pass a laugh test?  
-Ozzyslovechild 03:20, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah... not so good. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:27, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: A non-clickable tag would be nice for the image code. Example:  would give a borderless 100 pixel-wide thumb of image Foo.jpg that would not change the reader's cursor (arrow) to a pointing hand nor would send the reader to an image description page when he/she clicks on the image. --mav 00:23, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clicking on image in featured article. 

message: shouldn't the iran event be more prominent than the christening of a sub? (should it be on top?) Kevin Baastalk 20:02, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)
:Events on Template:In the news are ordered by date (newest first). The Iran item is from the 16th, while the submarine launch is from the 19th. --Slowking Man 22:34, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)--69.152.203.67 14:56, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: order of in the news items

message: do unions cause businesses to fail?
: Maybe take a look at trade unions or take your question to the Reference Desk. ;)  Cigarette 20:01, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  do unions cause businesses to fail? 

message: I'd just like to say that the layout of the wikipedia.org layout is very nicely done. Much better than the older one.
:I agree! that is most definitely 100% better than the old layout. Congratulations. This issue that I thought couldn't be resolved was resolved - something that I didn't think was possible! /me eats his hat. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:41, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New www.wikipedia.org layout 

message: Today's featured article: Sir John Vanbrugh links to Restoration (a disambiguation page).  I believe that it should link to English_Restoration (as the main article does).  Jarich 09:00, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restoration in featured article links to disambiguation page 

message: It's been annoying me for a while now, and I finally dived into the source to see what exactly what was happening. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm using Firefox 1.0 and IE 6.0 and they both show the same thing: this weird monobook bg that normally resides quietly in the background of all pages, but now is abruptly cut off. I checked the source, and I realized this was because there was an overlaying element just under the top of the page that had a white background: effectively cutting off the bg. So, I'd like to propose one of two things: first, totally remove the background by issuing some superceding CSS instruction (helps cut down page load size too) or reconfigure the page so that the background is utilized better (however, it fades into grey, which may not be ideal for visibility of text). Ambush Commander 04:20, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)
* Yes, I agree.  My plan is to reorganise the page to have its own CSS instead of using monobook.css.  Anybody can edit the temporary version of the portal; see m:Talk:Www.wikipedia.org portal —AlanBarrett 06:35, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  http://www.wikipedia.org Background Strip 

message: Dear Andrew pmk 03:24, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientology article