Talk:Union for French Democracy

message: * I'm not sure how accurate it is to cite Christine Boutin when describing the party, since she was ultimately kicked out, and is UMP now.  I think the fact that she was excluded from the party says more about it's attitude than the fact that she used to be a member of it.  Not sure how to phrase that for the article though.
:Actually, the mention of Christine Boutin is just meant as an illustration of how ideologically diverse UDF used to be prior to the departure of DL.
* The split with Démocratie libérale specifically had to do with the party's refusal to work with FN candidates after the 1998 regional elections (with the consequence that the left won), was it not?
:I suspect ideological tensions were running quite high. You just cannot put Alain Madelin and centrists in the same party without some difficulty for defining an economical line.
* I was reading a French site the other day that I'm pretty sure said the party was founded in 1904.  (But maybe that site was counting MPR or something in its outlook).  I may expand the history section properly at some point but I can't say when I'll get around to it and others' contributions would be welcome.    --Marlow4 14:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: I cut this from DL's article, since it's more appropriate here (DL history starts in 1998, not in 1966):
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The party that would eventually become Démocratie Libérale was created in 1966 by the Independent Republicans around finance minister Valéry Giscard d'Estaing as the National Federation of Republicans and Independents, a conservative, but independent, group which supported President Charles de Gaulle.
After Giscard became president in 1974, the party changed its name to the Republican Party (Parti Républicain), and in 1978 became one of the constituent parts of the Union for French Democracy (UDF), Giscard's new political coalition party.
In 1997, Alain Madelin took over leadership of the party, and led it in the direction of neoliberal economics.  He changed the name of the party to Démocratie Libérale (Liberal Democracy), and in 1998 broke with the UDF, mostly because the leader of the UDF, François Bayrou, wanted to restructure the UDF from a federation into an unitary party, something which Madelin opposed but other groups within the UDF supported.  "
Tazmaniacs 22:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extracts from [[Démocratie libérale]] 

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message: I'm not sure how it can exist along with MoDem and NC… —MC 18:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As of today the party still exists and MoDem, which will be formally founded in October, is for now an electoral list/alliance/coalition composed of UDF (minus the splinters of PSLE-NC), CAP 21 and independents, such as Azouz Begag and some former Greens. --Checco 18:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As of November 30th, the Party has now officially ceased to exist, and has definitely made way for the MoDem. Wedineinheck 22:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure about that? I notice that for fr.Wiki UDF still exists... --Checco 00:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They're just late. :) http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-984800,0.html While the name UDF still has some kind of legal existence (it will only cease to exist within three years), the party itself has effectively ceased to exist, as all its assets leardship and members have been transferred to the MoDem. Wedineinheck 07:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, fair enough. Thank you! --Checco 12:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  party still exists? 

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message: I would say liberalism is the more major ideology and should be listed first since christian democrats only came from CDS while liberal part includes liberal conservatives, classical liberals & radicals.
also all of their successors (MoDem (arguably the most christian democratic of these), ACDE, New Centre, Centrist Alliance,  UDI & FED) we have liberalism either as main ideology or even as sole one
what would you say  Braganza (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, liberalism or liberal conservatism is a much more apt descriptor than Christian democrat for the UDF. Alexouououou (talk) 16:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian democracy