Talk:2003–2004 Liberal Party of Canada infighting

message: :I read this a long time ago, and never said anything then, but the error is still there.  The article contends that the animosity between Chretien and Martin was due to the fact that Martin 'outed' Chretien on his opposition to Meech Lake.  That is not it at all.  Such situations are never that simple.  I think I have an idea what the author was talking about, though.  There was a leadership debate in Quebec in which Martin pressured Chretien on the matter.  When Chretien stated he was opposed to Meech Lake the Martin supporters in the crowd started shouting "vendu, vendu".  This is a very hurtful insult in Quebec.  It was also part of an ongoing strategy of the Martin camp to portray Chretien as out of touch with Quebec's beliefs and values.  They also used the term "yesterday's man" very often with a similar intent.  To someone in the crowd it may have seemed like Martin just 'outed' Chretien, but Chretien had been opposed to Meech before that (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4DE103DF93BA15755C0A96F948260).  He was avoiding the topic, to be sure.  Besides, to suggest that debate was the cause of the animosity between the two is to over simplify human relationships.  That was a very mean spirited leadership race.  Many friends became enemies.  Many rules were broken by all sides, with little ramifications.  It was probably the last of the old style leadership races, given the new rules that are in place.  I know, because I was there - actively involved.  I'll leave my post here for now, to see if any discuss occurs.  However, the comment in this article that I am referring to has no documentation; even more, I've provided at least one documentation above that refutes it.  So I will likely be correcting the comment soon.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.175.222 (talk) 13:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Meech Lake

message: Seems to me this just didnt happen only in 2004. Maybe the title should reflect this for this essay? 94.175.88.108 (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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message: An attempt was made by User:ARMY101 to essentially duplicate this article under a different name. I've redirected it back here and suggested the editor try editing this article, instead. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:39, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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