Template talk:Saw (franchise)

message: I added Saw 4 to the template. -24.92.41.95 01:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But we don't know if its going to be made yet.--CyberGhostface 01:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw a report on now mania.com (formerly cinescape.com) that said that it will be released for Halloween next yearhttp://www.mania.com/52631.html.  --myselfalso 15:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saw 4 

message: I've been trying to keep this template's size down by keeping the names simplified (Adam, Dr. Gordon etc...). I'm just posting here to see if anyone has any objections. --Spencer "The Belldog" Bermudez  |  (Complain here) 11:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  size 

message: I still believe that Jigsaw and Amanda are the only characters that really deserve their own articles. I guess the protagonists of each film might deserve one, but with Detective Kerry we are officially crossing the line...Kerry had little more than glorified cameos in each film. If we ever do a 'List of Saw characters' page she should have her own section, but she is not big enough to warrant her own article. Whats next, an article dedicated to Troy?--CyberGhostface 13:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw how many character pages were created, and I agree its been taken a bit too far. I understand Jigsaw and Amanda's articles to the fullest (they are important and major characters afterall), and the Adam article is pretty justified as he appeared in all films, but the minor characters aren't needed. I think, since they all seem to be nominated for deletion they should be removed from the template. Any objections? -Lindsey8417 10:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None from me. I'm nominating them for deletion right now.--CyberGhostface 13:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Not everyone...some overzealous editor whose never seen any of the films nominated them for deletion and several other people who also haven't seen the films wanted them gone as well. I think all the major protagonists deserve articles. Minor characters like Xavier and Kerry obviously don't, but I think these should stay for the moment.--CyberGhostface 20:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can understand people like Detective Matthews and Adam Faulkner, but Lawrence Gordon's just a terrible mess of redirects now, and we've got some people re-creating the articles with some people right behind them closing them off again. Jack Of Hearts | Miss A Turn 23:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: This isn't a fan site. I suggest you see Wikipedia:Fancruft. What the fans want isn't necessarily what's best for an encyclopedia.--CyberGhostface 17:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think we're getting a little character-happy here 

message: Could someone who knows more about editing templates possibly try to get the soundtracks and "other" sections onto the same line, like Template:Simpsons characters, to make it shorter? --Spencer "The Belldog" Bermudez  |  (Complain here) 12:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we should cram two sections onto the same line just yet, unless in the future we get more sections.--CyberGhostface 19:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  shortening 

message: I don't know who added Dead Silence but I've removed it seeing as it has no relevance to the series, only that James Wan created it. Movie Junkie 19:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Silence 

message: Could we make the templetate of the Saw series more like the movie itselfs, (Like: Text, wich match the series, white text on the headlines or different color on the main headline,. ) so it would be more familiar with its article —The preceding
--Rutherfordjigsaw 18:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can make the text easy to read and the font not a copyvio then I don't see why you couldn't.--CyberGhostface 17:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The ''Saw'' series template 

message: I'm guessing that it's because Jigsaw is the prominent character as we see very little of the side of John. — Movie Junkie 14:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jigaws/John Clarification 

message: I noticed that Rigg has been added to the box, is he prominent enough to go in the box? — Movie Junkie 19:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ViperBlade Talk!! 18:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I guess he is quite a main character. I was also wondering about Kerry. She's played quite a large role, almost as big as Eric. Shouldn't she be in the box? — MovieJunkie Talk! 18:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that Rigg should go on being that he's going to be (eventually) a major character. As for Kerry, I don't recall her being a major character but I'll hold out for now unless others want to chime in. However, I don't think, barring any additions/changes in Saw IV, that we should add any more characters. I remember before people were trying to add some of the victims from the first Saw.--CyberGhostface 18:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rigg in Character Section 

message: As people want the info box to be kept to a minimum, is there any need for the dates of the films? Surely the (short) would be fine for the first Saw, but all the rest just left without dates? — MovieJunkie Talk! 18:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I don't think we need them.--CyberGhostface 18:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film dates 

message: I know that most people want the box to be kept to a minimum, well I've come up with this:
:Category:Saw :Category:Film series templates
What do people think? Maybe someone can work some magic and make it half the size (width)? — MovieJunkie Talk! 19:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Saw :Category:Film series templates
It could be permanently open? — MovieJunkie Talk! 19:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with collapsing the template and maybe shortening it but I think the original format is still the best.--CyberGhostface 20:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fare do's :) — MovieJunkie Talk! 20:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

text: You know more about templates than I do, so I don't know how to do this, but is it possible to make the spaces less wide?--CyberGhostface 21:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's perfect. I'll edit it as so, I don't think there will be too many objections. Jack Of Hearts | Miss A Turn 07:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

text: ViperBlade Talk!! 11:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad I was able to help :D I personally think it looks more professional now? :D — MovieJunkie Talk! 15:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptation 

message: Frankly, I think the template should be only for characters who have their own articles, not characters on the list page. But that's going to contradict what I have to say next, so...
I think *only* the major protagonists of each film and the obvious antagonists should be featured. That would be Lawrence, Adam, Eric, the Reinharts, Rigg (who doesn't even have his article yet, but he was the main character so I'm not going to argue his placement yet), Jigsaw, Amanda and Hoffman (who will undoubtedly become a major character in the next two films). Kerry was a supporting character for the first three films, but was she ever a major character? I wouldn't classify her in the same level as Eric, who was the protagonist of one film. And Strahm, while important, was not the protagonist of Saw IV...that was Rigg.
I don't want to see the template become cluttered with minor characters. There was once a time where people added the glass victim and the razor wire victim into the box. Lets not let it become as bad as that.--CyberGhostface 03:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I agree that the template shouldn't be cluttered with minor characters, I believe Kerry should be included, as she is a big link in the series, going so far as to lead the FBI to Jigsaw while working behind-the-scenes. Jack Of Hearts | Miss A Turn 20:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters 

message: Why does Saw VI on the template link to Saw IV? Is it an honest typo? I don't don't know anything about Saw, so I won't change it myself. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 03:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It links to a section on IV detailing future sequels. We don't have an article about VI yet because it's not in production yet. We probably will get it soon, though.--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Saw VI article exists now, so I'm going to update the link. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 00:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saw VI 

message: Now with the majority of the characters re-directed, should we have a list of them which just link to a sub section of another article listed within the box?  Such as linking "Lawrence Gordon" to this page when the List of Saw characters page is already linked?  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 00:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we could remove the redirect characters to make it look less cluttered.--CyberGhostface (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, I mean essentially, this section is the same as the one above.  I think that only the characters with their own articles, or at least part of their own, such as the previous Lawrence Gordon page (Gordon family) should be included.  But this would mean recreating several articles or just leaving John and Amanda.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 00:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters 2. 

message: I think he should now that he is probably on par with John and Amanda. Discuss. Yeldarb68 (talk) 19:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see here.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 22:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Hoffman have his own article? 

message: They should not exist until there are citations and references in place. Yeldarb68 (talk) 08:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoffman and Strahm articles should be deleted 

message: why is there a picture of "misty graves" on this template? how does it relate to the movie series? shouldn't a picture of jigsaw's doll be on there instead or something that's actually relatable to the movies?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.175.146 (talk) 04:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: I added a cast section on the template, though it was quickly removed. JpGrB said that the reason for the removal was that whatever may be considered 'main cast' or 'cast' is mostly WP:OR. I don't see why this shouldn't be included since other franchise templates list the cast of the films (ex. the Terminator franchise template).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.151.130 (talk) 01:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast section? 

message: The reason why it's on a different bar is to distinguish it from the rest of the template, making in small is useless and harder to read. You suggested I look at some other templates... , , , that latter being of a featured topic, which  is also. ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 05:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with Scarce. It shouldn't be smaller.  Also, refer to WP:ACCESSIBILITY and WP:Manual of Style (text formatting)#Font size. --Mike Allen 05:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Below 

message: Why is Insidious listed in the "related articles" section on this template? I've read the article about Insidious, and there is no mention whatsoever of the Saw franchise (other than this template).  -24.125.42.1 (talk) 03:31, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for bringing it up.  I guess whoever added it thought it was related because that that film and others were directed by James Wan.  I've removed it. —Mike Allen  04:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insidious