Talk:Zoviet France

message: Anyone know what Ben Ponton's been up to? Lil'dummy 01:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The description given in the article that this links to (ambient industrial) is quite specific and itself not well sourced. I think this needs a third party reference to support this categorisation.
Alchemagenta 13:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the "ambient industrial" reference as no citation has been given since I first made the point. Alchemagenta (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "ambient industrial": citation needed 

message: In Zoviet*France, music listens to you!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.133.184 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It seemed funny at the time 

message: "(at some times in the past referred to as Reformed Faction of Zoviet France)" veers towards weasel words - when in the past? In any case, how relevant is this to an article about Zoviet France when there is an article about Reformed Faction which details the history of that name, and which is linked to in the Zoviet France article?
Alchemagenta (talk) 13:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reformed Faction

message: I've reverted a grammatical edit which changed ":zoviet*france: is..." to ":zoviet*france: are...". Zoviet France is a singular entity, a group, so, to my mind, should take the singular of verbs - "is" rather than "are". Similar examples would be "Scotland is a nation" rather than "Scotland are a nation" and "Newcastle United is a football team" rather than "Newcastle United are a football team".
Alchemagenta (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted to 'are'.  This is a regional difference between British and American English; British usage is "are" and American usage is "is".  ZF are a British group and Wikipedia guidance is that, where such differences exist, the style of the relevant nationality should take precedence. --Richardrj talk email 17:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree - I'm British - and I think the BBC, that bastion of British English usage, supports my point: see http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/words/grammar/sentencebasics/verbsubjectagreement/factsheet3.shtml Alchemagenta (talk) 10:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See American and British English differences#Formal and notional agreement.  That article says that either "is" or "are" can be used in British English, depending on whether you're talking about the group as an entity or the members.  By that reasoning, "is" would be fine.  However, there are numerous examples of "are" being used in articles on British groups with similar (abstract noun) names, e.g. Oasis (band), Coldplay, Tindersticks, Yes (band), Pink Floyd, Genesis (band), Whitehouse (band), Stereolab, AMM (group).  I won't revert again, but you are definitely in the minority here. --Richardrj talk email 12:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular plural 

message: The list for the discography and everything looks horrible, but I don't know enough about Wikipedia to even know where to begin.  70.48.251.239 (talk) 06:08, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format 

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