Talk:Hydrodesulfurization

message: Wikipedia now has three articles covering exactly the same subject, namely: Hydrotreater, Hydrodesulfurization and Oil desulfurization.  For people in the petroleum refining, petrochemical production and other hydrocarbon processing industries those three names are synonomous. In other words, they mean exactly the same thing. There is no reason why Wikipedia needs three separate articles on the same subject.
The only explanation I can come up with as to how this happened is that the original authors of the three articles failed to make a thorough search as to find out if the subject was already covered in Wikipedia.
I propose that the three articles be merged into a single one and I am tagging all three of them with a "Merge" tag. Any comments? mbeychok 03:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur with comment:  Good idea for the merge.  The main problem is that you might end up with a huge article, which tends not to be so readable.  One possibility would be to keep Hydrotreater but focus it on the hardware, and let your merged article focus on the chemistry, energetics, and feeds.  Good luck.--Smokefoot 05:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the name "Hydrodesulfurization" best for a merged article because it seems the most specific.  In the future, there may be alternate sources of "oil" such as coal liquefaction, tar sands, shale, etc.  However, such products may still benefit from hydrodesulfurization.  For example, there are "high" sulfur coals (up to several percent), which are undesirable for direct burning.  If the price of classical oil goes up, hydrodesulfurization of this liquified coal may present a solution to the high sulfur problem, especially since coal liquefaction involves hydrogenation anyway.  H Padleckas 04:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. "Hydrodesulfurization" would be the best choice. mbeychok 23:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Possibly "Hydrodesulfurisation".--Smokefoot 02:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hydrodesulfurisation already redirects to Hydrodesulfurization.  H Padleckas 03:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldnt find an article on HDN - strange.  I guess that topic could be a subsection in HDS.--Smokefoot 03:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Smokefoot, there is an article on Hydrogenation chemistry which does mention hydrogenation of nitrogen and unsaturates as well as sulfur. I think the proposed merging could mention them as well. But I also think that the merged article should focus primarily on hydrodesulfurization.  When articles try to encompass too much in one article, they tend to get jumbled and badly organized. mbeychok 04:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge this article with [[Hydrotreater]] and [[Oil desulfurization]] 

message: Hello all:
I have released the merged article and overwrote the existing article here with the merged version. the Hydrotreater and Oil Desulfurization articles are now redirected to this one.
The merger draft is no longer available in my sandbox.
This article is about 90% complete now. It need someone to develop the section on "Catalysts and mechanisms". Please don't try to cover the whole field of catalysis ... just the specific catalysts used in catalytic desulfurization.
The article also need more very brief (just a few sentence each) inputs into the "Miscellaneous uses" section. Thanks to all, - mbeychok 00:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged article has replaced the previous version of this article 

message: Smokefoot, thanks very much for the absolutely superb job you did on the "Catalysts and mechanisms" section. Just one point ... I think I will change the word "cartoon" to "diagram" for the image that you included. Once again, thanks. - mbeychok 18:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Catalyst and mechanisms

message: The reasons for deleting the edit were:
* The edit by 84.191.18.142 was copied word-for-word from the website of the Hielscher company and added by an anonymous user with no other WP edits to his/her credit.
* It was based on some research study  that has not yet been commercially proven on a large, industrial scale, whereas this article is about the hydrodesulfurization process that has been in use for almost for over 50 years in virtually every petroleum refinery worldwide. 
mbeychok (talk) 22:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for deleting edit about ultrasonic assisted desulfurization by 84.191.18.142 

message: Bio gas is famous in renew able energy, Normally Bio gas is use in Boiler and Gas Engine Genrators. But the problem is that in bio gas have Hydrogen Sulfide, Hydrogen Sulfide is make corrosion in boilers and Gas Engine Genrators, have a lot of process and tecnologies for removing Hydrogen Sulfide from Bio gas but in my research the Biological process is most reliable and have low cost, In other processes chemical treatment use a lot of Chemicals and need cleaning to stop production. In Biological system we can remove Hydrogen Sulfide in a Acid Prof Tank and make cleaning one time per year only in One day, This Acid Prof Tank is conected with small Technical Unit have Eletrical and Mechenical equipments control by Autometic PLC Programe. We use Waste Water from Factory for remove Hydrogen Sulphide no need any Chemical.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qasim.bkk (talk • contribs) 04:04, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hydrogen Sulphide removal process from Biogas 

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