Talk:Solomon Northup

message: I've been corresponding with a decendent of Solomon Northup.  This gentleman has researched Northup throughly.  He advises that Northup disappeared in 1863 in Boston while lecturing.  I have requested a source for this as I have not seen this claim raised before despite a certain amount of research myself.  Once I have some confirmation I will update the article to reflect this new information. Robert Brockway
I have researched Northup's life after his return to the north. If there is any source for the "best available evidence" that he disappeared in Boston, I would like to see it cited. I'm familiar with Mr. Linzy, and don't have high confidence in his research. Contact me for background if you like.  dfiske@sprynet.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.10.144.154 (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi.  I recommend reading Solomon Northup's book, 12 Years a Slave.  IIRC Solomon was freed by the Northup family after he saved the life of one of the children in the family.  If you have any info on a grave in Rhode Island that would be a discovery - no one knows where or how Solomon Northup died. Robert Brockway 07:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: Why does most of the article use his first name, and not his last?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.181.237 (talk) 03:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Solomon vs. Northup

message: The substantial changes on 1/1/2007 by 72.251.13.79 to this article seem to be completely unsourced and represent a radical shift from the former state of the article. I have some limited knowledge of Northup, but I can't deny any of the claims explicitly. Can someone with more knowledge of Northup take a look at this and revert what is needed? 24.208.27.108 04:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a disputed tag to draw attention to this. The material added in this revision is unsourced and It just doesn't seem to meet wikipedia's standards. 24.208.27.108 04:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed Additions on January 1, 2007

message: On February 8, 2010 there was a racist comment added to this page by "Petiatil". The comments were as follows " 	
He was born in Minerva, Essex County, New York. He disappeared in 1863, and he was a nigger." 
"Shoessss" noted this racial slur under the description of Solomon Northup and and corrected it to read "He was born in Minerva, Essex County, New York. He disappeared in 1863."
Racial slurs violate Wikipedia's policy and have no place in an article that proports to be non-biased. Overt racist remarks towards African Americans do not belong in this article.Ebanony (talk) 13:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The guideline on Wikipedia is that articles which have a strong connection with a country that uses American English should use American spelling. And those that have a strong connection with a country that uses British English should use British spelling. Thus American spelling is a reasonable choice on this article. Invertzoo (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Racist Slurs & Vandalism

message: I have made necessary and important copy editing changes to this article, including adding a number of useful links but most of them have disappeared.  I would very much appreciate it if whoever is doing this come forward with his or her reasons for the changes.  Please remember Wikipedia is a group project where we exchange ideas to make entries the best they can be.  Risssa (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I gave an explanation in the edit summary. Common words, such as kidnap, are not linked. See WP:OVERLINK. The section you tagged in the lead does not need a cite, as it is given in the body of the article. Anna (talk) 03:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with everything you have written here.  I suggest we take this to arbitration. Risssa (talk) 03:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is going on here? 

message: The lede currently says "Aside from a brief communication when he was first kidnapped, his family and friends had no knowledge of him." This makes it sound as though Northup's family certainly had word of him shortly after his kidnap. This is too definitively put - as if it is indisputably the case. Anna (talk) 23:47, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Northrup states his wife and family knew early on he was in bondage from the secret letter written for him by an English sailor on the slave ship that transported him to New Orleans (and from an escaped slave he had met in Richmond).  This letter was, according Northrup, brought to the attention of then New York Governor William H. Seward by Henry Northrup but the family had no idea of Solomon's exact whereabouts, so it was decided at that time that nothing more could be pursued.  These facts can be added to the article, if you think it needed. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:28, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: We work by sourcing. Are you referring to the memoir? Anna (talk) 20:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  lead 

message: Is there documentation that he disappeared (it should be cited) or is this to be read as "he disappears from the historical record", i.e. we don't have information as to his whereabouts at the time? It's an important distinction in the case of a person who had previously disappeared through kidnapping and enslavement. 69.201.168.196 (talk) 03:46, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "He disappeared in 1857" is highly ambiguous 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: While this is based on the report of a newspaper in Georgia, the report cites a newspaper in New York that did not exist. If one looks at the records provided in New York State newspapers - the NY Times, Herald, Tribune, or any of the newspapers available here: http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/, or consult the microfilmed newspapers held by the state library in Albany - a report of this is not found. Further, Henry Bliss Northup was in the UK for several months in 1858. Thus, he would not have known the fate of his friend, Solomon.  140.233.186.185 (talk) 03:16, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The citation of Henry Bliss Northup saying Solomon Northup was sent back North - formerly note 44 

message: I have heard that the date of his death and location of his grave is unknown. However, I found this searching on the FindAGrave website. Of course it might not be him, but the dates and location are a close match. This link also has a photo of a headstone. 
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201431383/solomon-northup
Solomon Northup
BIRTH	31 Dec 1803
New York, USA
DEATH	9 Aug 1890 (aged 86)
BURIAL	
Schuyler Cemetery
Monterey, Schuyler County, New York, USA
Dan Bollinger (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1855 in NY there was a Solomon Northup, age 49, mulatto, born in Essex Co., and living in Queensbury, Warren Co., NY, married to Ann, and with son Alonso, who is the subject of this article, and also a Solomon Northup in Orange, Schuyler Co., NY, aged 51, [not black or mulatto] born in Delaware County, with wife Sarah and children Myron, John A. and George, matching the details of the Find-a-Grave man. Agricolae (talk) 00:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death and gravesite