Talk:Human rights in post-invasion Iraq

message: Since this article has been repeatedly vandalized by anonymous users I suggest to ban them from editing. As far as I know this option does not yet exit, but I made a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_page_protection. Please contribute to the debate about my idea. Get-back-world-respect 21:34, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion to ban anonymous poster from editing this article

message: It seems there are two sections within the article about Abu Ghraib that could be merged. The two sections being under the different headings of "July to December 2003" and "Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal," respectively. Any suggestions on how to merge them? I was thinking of putting all Abu Ghraib information under the ""Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal" heading since it's a subtitle of "May 2004" and that's when most of the media took notice. What do you think? --Werbwerb 07:09, May 15, 2004 (UTC)
:I think the merged material should be put under "July to December 2003", with the reports as sub headings. - Jeandré, 2004-06-19t14:40z
::Suggest this article is retained as "main article" with other articles as sub-articles AndrewRT 11:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Abu Ghraib sections merging

message: I just added (to external links):
 
:U.S. State Department on Iraq Human rights in 2004 (released 2005) (http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41722.htm) Country Reports on Human Rights Practices section on Iraq. 460 KB in size for the Iraq portion alone. HTML. One page. No pictures, all English text. 4.250.132.124 20:21, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold mine of data

message: *This article is pretty atrocious. Crimes committed by the US are always "alleged" or were "apparently" committed even when extremely well documented (though my favorite is the use of "theoretically" in the last section). The bias starts out in the intro where the situation is discussed from the perspective of the primary offender. --Tothebarricades.tk 12:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *  :p Rama 12:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: * Article is too long
* The first section needs to be moved somewhere else (as per here). AucamanTalk 21:43, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I suspect the recent charging of three US soldiers with murder will become a major story, but have no idea what to name the spin-off article ("Somewhere killings/murders" would seems to be the standard form). Anyone?  JEREMY 08:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What to call article about recent murder charges?

message: The title of article should be changed as the contents is just a list of violent events, not an article about philosophical or legal concepts and their application. Pavel Vozenilek 08:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just moved this page to Human rights in occupied Iraq and fixed a number of redirects. It's concise, direct, and matches the opening sentence. It's certainly possible for a non-governmental entity or an individual to violate a person's human rights; people have even been prosecuted for it in the USA. --Steven J. Anderson 17:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The title should be "Violence in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq" 

message: The line that reads "Criminal prosecution for the coalition forces are extremely unlikely, due to the fact that the violators themselves are running the tribunals." is inappropriate in the context of an impartial dissemination of information. In such a highly-debated topic, anything that can be construed as holding a negative or positive attitude towards any party or subject should be kept out of an encyclopedia.
Also in the introduction is the sentence "War crime tribunals and criminal prosecution of the numerous crimes by "insurgents" are likely years away." This doesn't strike me as quite so blatantly partisan or inflammatory, but what basis of time or scale of "likelihood" is the author using beyond his or her own personal opinion? Again, I feel that the impartiality of that sentence should be thoroughly questioned.
12.206.79.206 08:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was merge.--Jorfer 16:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction's objectivity. 

message: I moved the executions that were mentioned in June 2006, to May 2006 (when the actual executions took place) as well as providing links to the articles about perpetrators. Ryan4314 (talk) 10:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 2006 

message: Sorry to post this here, as I know it doesn't really belong.  But I can't find anywhere else to register my disgust at the video posted on the article, which was (I think, rightly) regarded as a featured image.  If that isn't extra-judicial murder, I don't know what is; counter-insurgency carried out at the level of a video game.  Lexo (talk) 01:31, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the video 

message: "On September 16, Blackwater guards shot and killed 17 Iraqi civilians in Nisour Square, Baghdad."
How is it that Blackwater guards defending themselves a human rights violation? When they got to the square, an "estimated 8-10 persons fired from multiple nearby locations, with some aggressors dressed in civilian apparel and others in Iraqi Police uniforms" . HotshotCleaner (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it was alleged, investigated, and widely reported as a possible war crime, and the FBI found that almost all of the shootings "were unjustified and violated deadly-force rules in effect for security contractors in Iraq.". But I think I'd agree that the section could do with a sentence or two noting the ambiguities here (including the fact that all charges were dropped) before it's added back in. -- Khazar (talk) 15:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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message: Hello Editors, 
    I would like to collaborate on a possible restructuring and addition of certain new headlines in this article. The timeline of abuses is surely useful, but I believe other critical human rights categories should come first like: Education, The rights of women and children, Freedom of expression and assembly, Enforced or involuntary disappearances and the Death Penalty, Torture and Justice. These could be followed by specific events included in the timeline. Also, what time period are we focusing on for this article (does it span 2003-current day?)
I have already drafted some paragraphs to add, but wanted to see if anyone would want to discuss also restructuring the article. If not, I will simply add the facts I would like to add. 
Thank you. Geneva International Centre for Justice (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed restructuring and updated headlines