Talk:Roberts Bartholow

message: What does "Faradic" mean?  As opposed to what? Yamagawa10k (talk) 20:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: Hello! I will be adding more details about Bartholow's life, and his experiments. The sources I plan to use are currently in my Sandbox. I am writing this article as part of a class (140.106). Azhu8 (talk) 03:24, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: Well written and interesting biography on a physician with questionable study design. The article can benefit from mainly merging some sections together and adding a few details here and there.
* Intro - pretty effective at summarizing highlight of his work (case study with Rafferty) and piquing interest in reading more. Good example of themes discussed in class regarding ethical human subject experimentation, fringe groups and medicine, and consent.
** what were the medical schools that he was involved with? Mention other medical contexts he worked in e.g. civil war
** debatable - for an intro, could be too specific to focus on one case study. Did he do anything else with his life? e.g. time in military, Ohio and published several somewhat impactful documents about various medical practices to make intro more comprehensive over what the article discusses. Its his bio, not just his infamous case study.
* Education and career - good overview of his early life and professional career. Seems to end abruptly given the content of the rest of the article covering more of his life/career.
** may be worthwhile to mention time in military in intro since he spent a decent portion of his life as a military physician. 
** give specific examples on how he incorporated ideas from alternative medicine into his practice.
* Research Methods - good concise summary over how Bartholow conducted research.
** compare with standard of experimental design at the time and maybe incorporate specific examples showing how his animal experiments were related to various parts of his career.
** briefly summarize Ferrier's experiments to provide more context. Mention Bartholow's procedure with animal model stimulation if any, especially if deviating from prior work.
* Challenges to Medical Research - interesting reflection on how Bartholow approached medical research. Title can be more clear that it refers to Bartholow's innovative or progressive practice rather than his research being challenged.
** could be merged with research methods rather than be its own category.
** like previous section could benefit with examples of clinical research from his various practices or publications made during his life.
* Leadership in Medicine - could be merged to education and career section as it adds more interesting details about his life but is not clearly mentioned earlier.
** was his professorship at the Samaritan Hospital? Clarify.
** what did Bartholow do for American Neurological Association? Was it for his case study?
* Major Works - A section does good job in raising some interesting questions about Bartholow and priming the reader on Rafferty. What else did he contribute to neurology, if anything at all? Any context behind his career focus on the brain? How did he obtain the instrumentation he used? Did he perform a surgery and just stick stimulating electrodes in? However there are a few typos and punctuation errors in the first few sentences.
** again can be merged with education and career section or mentioned there.
** no mention of Ferrier's experiments here as influence.
** elaborate on prior work of Fritsch and Hitzig and influence as well.
* Experiments on Mary Rafferty - most detailed section of the article that addresses most of the questions that I posited for earlier section and explains what happened during the study well such as the underlying experimental design and the consequences of the study for Bartholow. Builds off of previous section though also does make it (Major Works) seem redundant or misleading if his only major work is Rafferty study. Quote helps visualize experiment but also needs a clear citation aside from report.
** could be a subsection of education and careers. Could also be merged with Major Works if this is his only major work though he seemed to have done lots of other things...
** give some more background on Rafferty and Bartholow like how he decided to choose her as a subject or why she decided to consent to and undergo the experiment.
** were Fritsch and Hitzbig still active researchers? If so, did they have feedback like Ferrier?
Again great article, especially for anyone interested in brain stimulation and medical ethics. Let me know if I need to clarify any of my feedback. Hnguye68 (talk) 06:24, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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