Talk:Saint Peter and Saint Paul Archipelago

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Thank you watching the article of the St. Peter and St. Paul Rocks in the English. The article still in construction according to new scientific (geological) research data and articles. The source of the figures is recently submitted scientific article to the Revista Brasileira de Geomorfologia, written by our research group. The English, Spanish, and Japanese Wikipedia pages will be enriched soon to Portuguese level. In addition, Until the end of 2007, I will to open a geological homepage of the St. Peter and St. Paul Rocks. This page will show all of available scientific articles in geology. 
> Please don't get offended that I am writing English here
No problem. I am not a native Brazilian, only a geologist working in Rio de Janeiro State Government. Very few geologists working at the St. Peter and St. Paul Rocks can write English. It is one of our weak points.
Amotoki 17:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: Regarding the recent edits made by User:92.24.97.171, User:78.147.188.3 and User:78.151.91.151 on July 24, 2009, they appear to have been made by the same person (see the article's revision history and the WHOIS of the IP addresses) indicating sock puppetry. The edits were clearly unconstructive, removing referenced material (multiple credible sources) and adding OR.
With that said, let me point out again what the references state:
*From the official Brazilian Government site responsible for the program:
:"A Estação é ocupada permanentemente por 3 ou 4 pesquisadores  que são substituídos a cada 15 dias."
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*From the Brazilian Navy:
:"A Estação é ocupada permanentemente por uma equipe de três a quatro pesquisadores, que são apoiados por embarcações contratadas pela Marinha do Brasil."
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*From academia/United Nations report (page 4):
:"Com a inauguração da Estação Científica do Arquipélago de São Pedro e São Paulo (ECASPSP) em 1998, iniciam-se os trabalhos de pesquisa científica promovidos pelo Programa Arquipélago de São Pedro e São Paulo (PRO-ARQUIPÉLAGO). Este fato permitiu tanto a ocupação permanente do arquipélago, como permitiu ainda que o Brasil acrescentasse mais 200 milhas marítimas de zona econômica exclusiva à volta do arquipélago" 
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Regarding the reasoning behind permanently occupying the archipelago, like I (and other editors) have stated earlier, geopolitics is one of the reasons, and the article mentions it: By maintaining permanent occupation of the archipelago, the Brazilian Navy extends Brazil's Exclusive Economic Zone, territorial waters and airspace into the North Atlantic Ocean.. Another reason is to  advance scientific research in marine biology for example, after all it is a scientific base (if it was purely geopolitical the Brazilian Navy would have created a military base on the archipelago, like it did on Trindade and Martim Vaz).
One of the edit summaries read: "no evidence that the occupation is 100% continous, (consider the weather conditions!)". If you don't want to believe the sources, it is your own personal opinion and point of view. Until you find reliable sources that state the opposite, the referenced material will stay. Limongi (talk) 03:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they are official sources. Find other sources stating your POV and prove they are biased. Limongi (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: The first line or two of the article ought to directly state the ownership of these islets & rocks.  It would make the rest of the opening paragraph clearer.  --71.174.165.141 (talk) 02:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, they myust be made of an unusually HARD ROCK, otherwise they would have long since been eroded away and disappeared underneath the waves. Rachel Carson noted in her classic book The Sea Around Us how exceptionally steep the edges of the rock platform really are, I think she states that less than ten metres or so out from the shore, the depth is already 800 metres! And these islets are very exposed to wind, rain and ocean waves. Yet thay have probably stayed above the water for many millions of years... 188.150.64.57 (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belonging to Brazil 

message: "The islets expose serpentinized abyssal mantle peridotite and kaersutite-bearing ultramafic mylonite on the top of the second-largest megamullion in the world…" This is the densest thing I have ever read on Wikipedia and perhaps should be re-written. —Sesel (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The specific references to what kinds of rock the islets consist of should be left in, but something needs to be added to make it more accessible. The gist is - and I think Rachel Carson once popinted it out - that it's one of very few locations on the surface of the earth where rock that's been formed directly in the mantle - not in the crust, or in sediment layers - is directly exposed and forms the main bedrock of the place. So, at some point the rock has been thrust up right from the mantle. This is extremely rare.83.254.151.33 (talk) 03:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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