Talk:Griko language

message: I don't know which is the best spelling in latin characters; Griko or Grico. I preferred the latter, as it resembles more to the italian Greco.
GoogleFight, though, seems to think different:
* Griko: 3260 results
* Grico: 2720 results
So Griko is more popular on the net...
Etz Haim 21:18, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Griko vs Grico

message: User:Wetman made his point on the page by adding:
:The latter is backed by evidence regarding the multitude of Doric words and other ancient Greek items of vocabulary in Griko; however, Griko and modern Greek are mutually intelligible, whereas Ancient greek and Modern Greek are not, as many a European scholar on vacation has discovered.
Besides being unfair to Gerhard Rohlfs, this also contradicts my experience as a native Greek speaker, who can understand well enough both Ancient Greek and Griko. See also what other people have to say on the Greek language article:
:Its interintelligibility with ancient Greek is a matter of debate. It is claimed that a "reasonably well educated" speaker of the modern tongue can read the ancient dialects, but it is not made plain how much of that education consists of exposure to vocabulary and grammar obsolete in normal communication.
I think that the "reasonably well educated" standard is met by large portions of the Greek population, who at least have a head start towards the comprehension of antique forms of the Greek language.
And finally, the Griko and Modern Greek sample texts are here to testify for the intelligibility between these two languages.
Etz Haim 15:05, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Griko, Ancient and Modern Greek 

message: The demographics section of the main Italy article mentions 20,000 Griko-speaking people (at first it read "Greek") in both Apulia (Salento) and Calabria, but my sources tell me that they are 40,000. I'd honestly like to find which one is true. Also, I have to note that I'm not sure if the minority in Calabria is recognized by the Italian state, therefore it may be unlikely that it was ever included in a census.
Etz Haim 18:00, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well you are right about the source of the data. In fact I had second thoughts myself about changing the table on the Italy page. What also concearns me is that I don't know whether the Italian government has included the Griko-speaking people in Calabria in their census. I know that sometime before 1999 the minority in Salento was recognized by the Italian parliament, but I'm not sure about the Calabrian one. Cheers. Etz Haim 14:14, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Griko-speaking population 

message: Allèrga-sa!
I'm very doubtful on the orthography of Griko sample text, the first lines of the song "Matinata" by Vito Domenico Palumbo, widely known as "kalinifta".
Greek characters are not used by Grecanics except from experimental purpose or in books addressed to Greeks.
Surely the author has written his text with latin characters, I have a version here: http://www.grikamilume.com/trauddia/palumbo.htm but I'm not so sure that this is the very original version (but it must be very near).
Therefore the text with Greek characters seems to me a "Modern Greek transliteration" especially because of the use of TS for chee/cha.
Stasite kalì
Frangisko 21:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the use of polytonic accents and spiritus asper/lenis in the column for modern Greek does not seem plausible (they have been out of use since 1982 and are thus clearly not “modern” anymore). --95.112.154.60 (talk) 10:47, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Griko sample text 

message: Is it similar to Griko? Informationskampagne (talk) 11:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Dialect of Cargèse  

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Article contradicts itself.
A.: Griko = Italiot Greek:
* "Griko, sometimes spelled Grico, is the dialect of Italiot Greek spoken by Griko people in Salento (province of Lecce) and (also called Grecanic) in Calabria."
* "whereas its own speakers call it Greko (Γκραίκο, in Calabria) or Griko (Γκρίκο, in Salento)."
* "Region	Salento, Calabria"
B.: Griko = Apulian Greek:
* "Recognised minority language in .. Apulia" (per Calabrian Greek Calabrian Greek is recognised as well, so this means Griko = Apulian Greek)
* "Language family  .. Italiot Greek	Griko" (i.e. Griko is only one part or descendent of Italiot Greek)
Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:42, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up required