Talk:Sziklai pair

message: Does anyone understand all this talk about pushing and pulling? I think the writer needs to re-think their words!--Kisss256 06:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pushing and Pulling 

message: Does anybody know the pronunciation of `Sziklai' ?
`zIk-lay'? `tseek-lie'?  Or something else?  Thanks for help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tosendo (talk • contribs) 21:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I'm not mistaken, I guess it's something like seek-loy but better ask somebody who knows hungarian.89.136.39.53 (talk) 22:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

text: On thinking again, I guess it's more like sick-loy (with a short e)89.136.41.31 (talk) 12:11, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: The title and body are inconsistent. Should it be "Sziklai Pair" or "Sziklai pair"? --Mortense (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed - somewhat belatedly. 81.154.179.214 (talk) 09:27, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sziklai Pair" or "Sziklai pair"? 

message: The earliest mention of Sziklai that I can find in connection with the circuit shown in the main article is in Horowitz and Hill. All through my engineering education at MIT in the 1980s, the connection was simply referred to as a complementary Darlington, or something similar, and Sziklai's name didn't become prominently attached to the circuit until later. Earlier versions of the wikipedia article referenced two patents by Sziklai in support of the nomenclature, but conspicuously, neither of those patents show or describe the circuit at all. I've looked reasonably hard, and have been unable to find a primary source for the nomenclature, which makes me suspicious that H&H might have made a spurious attribution, and that the popularity of that wonderful book caused the misattribution to propagate without any further checking for correctness. It would strengthen the article greatly if an actual primary reference could be found and cited. Otherwise, perhaps the article should be rewritten to acknowledge the possibility of a misattribution.
: I found a Google Books snippet dated 1985, "Semiconductor Circuit Approximations" by Albert Paul Malvino, page 259 that mentions Sziklai pairs. Of course it's only a snippet so I can't see the whole thing but this pre-dates at least the second edition of Horowitz adn Hill. I'd check IEEE's site but I've found that no matter how many societies you join, the reference you want is never in your subscription. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: George Sziklai shows an application of the circuit in his 1953 paper "Symmetrical properties of Transistors and Their Applications": a "two-stage direct-coupled Class-B amplifier" in figure 8. In other words, two Sziklai pairs drive a loudspeaker. Each stage is a Sziklai pair, one a PNP pair, and the other a NPN pair. The paper came about one year after Darlington's patent. 181.225.181.225 (talk) 23:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is "Sziklai pair" a case of misattribution? 

message: I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this topic. I wasn't sure that there's a specific page for things like this.
Anyway, I was wondering, in regards to citations from a book, how are you to determine where exactly in the book the citation comes from? It seems a page number should be included to facilitate easy look-up.
In my particular case, I wanted to look up the first citation from The Art of Electronics by Horrowitz and Hill, since I have a copy. But with no page number or additional information included, this wasn't as straight-forward as expected.
I know you could use the index in the book to find certain topics. But that's not always going to be a viable solution.
So, I'm just wondering if I'm missing something fundamental here. Or if my observations are correct. I'm also hoping to get some advice on how to better consult book-based citations such as the example provided.
Thanks in advance for your time and advice. Cheers! VoidHalo (talk) 23:44, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  General question about citations.