Talk:History of the telephone

message: We need a proper article at History of telephone.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this should be the main article for the 'history of the telephone'. Timeline is something different, invention may deserve its own subarticle, but this should be a full-fledget article linked from articles like telephone, with subsections like 'invention' or 'history of mobile phones'. This is a standard way - see History_of_communication#Distance_communication.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper article needed 

message: Just some book out of copyright that may help with information. J. D. Redding 19:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of sources 

message: In the 1800s, the US Patent Office required working models to prove they would work when built.  After a Patent Office fire that destroyed their collection of models, the rules were changed to permit "constructive reduction to practice" which meant a published written description with drawings in sufficient detail that a person of ordinary skill in the art would be able to build one that worked, without having to reinvent it.  Examiners do not require working models for mechanical or electrical inventions unless they suspect the proposed invention would violate some physical law.  For example perpetual motion machines.  The water transmitter of Elisha Gray was clearly described in his patent caveat which constructively reduced it to practice.  But it was not published.  Bell was able to get a patent with broad claims, because both Meucci's caveat and Gray's caveat were abandoned before publication. Greensburger (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Must the inventor build the invention for it to be called inventing? 

message: I'd like to see some history of the use of the word, "telephone." As in the article, the first incarnation was called a "speaking telegraph," so at some point the word "telephone" came into being. I'm curious as to whether this history has been written anywhere, but I haven't been able to find anything yet. Manys (talk) 17:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomenclature 

message: I question whether this 1910 article is a reliable source.  It reads like a fictional movie script, quoting words as if those words had been spoken, and stating as fact what people were thinking.  Greensburger (talk) 02:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not see that these particular defects are prominent.  It certainly isn't an encyclopedia article, as it is full of drama, one-sidedness and purple prose.  However, our fellow editor has not presented it as a source for any particular judgement or statement of fact, and it serves to present one important point of view of the time.  Jim.henderson (talk) 00:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Herbert Casson's article "The Birth Of The Telephone"

message: The article is informative, yet in simple language; Not a lot of technical terms are used which makes the article easy to comprehend. The article went over some controversies and disputes as to who actually invented the telephone, and the article has really good arguments to make it's case. But there is a whole section of the article that does not cite a single source to back it up, which makes me wonder about the authenticity of the article and it's credibility. Telephone being such an important invention, I think that seven sources are very less, especially when six out of seven are not credible. 
Source One is from the company AT&T's website which sound biased, since Alexander Gram Bell is among the founders of the company and which may cause confusion among reader as to believe the controversies or the AT&T website. The second website is the Ringer Website that sells ringer boxes. Number three citation is just a small paragraph but written by someone at Harvard university, but does not give any reliable sources; the links sends it to a search engine. Fourth source is a personal blog that does not provide a single source or any information about the author except the name. Sixth cited source is from a lobbing website that lobbies for the advancement of technology, which I may be inclined to except as a source, even though doesn't sound like a credible source. 
Citations number five is the only credible source; it is a link to a PDF file that is basically a paper written in 1947 scanned. Even though the article is old, but is any original work.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HIST406-10110848257Shoaib (talk • contribs) 04:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  General critique of the article 

message: I miss informations about the first developments of intercontinental/world-wide telephone connections via sea-cable.
Later via direct wireless? or satellite relay?
1866 the first stable intercontinantal sea-cable bridges Ireland to Newfoundland for telegraphy. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegrafie for the world map of Telegraphie=telegraphy plus railway connections.
The infos in Global_network are a beginning ... --Helium4 (talk) 16:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development of the national and world-wide net? 

message: The picture of the actor playing Bell was on the cover of an Arts & Entertainment DVD titled "Alexander Graham Bell" released in 1996, .  A film clip lasting several seconds from the 1926 silent film is included in the A&E biography. The cover picture of the actor is one frame from this silent film.
When playing the A&E DVD, skip to Chapter 3 "The telephone". At about 7 minutes 4 seconds into Chapter 3, the silent film clip begins showing two actors playing Bell and Watson. About 4 seconds later, the narrator Jack Perkins introduces the 1926 film clip by saying "As portrayed in this early film biography, he said 'Mr. Watson, come here, I want to see you.' "
About 7 minutes 48 seconds into Chapter 3 is the Bell actor speaking into a replica of an early telephone. This includes the frame that is mistakenly identified as Bell. A few seconds later, there is a closeup of a third actor holding a different replica telephone. He is wearing a bow-tie and has popping eyes. 
The 1926 silent film-clip frame of the actor playing Bell has left-right reversal and has a few vertical scratch marks, but is otherwise identical to the famous frame, with the same mottled wall covering in the background, that appears with cover art on the case of the A&E Biography DVD.
What was the name of the actor playing Bell?  What was the title of the 1926 silent film? Greensburger (talk) 04:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The picture of Bell speaking into an early telephone is from a 1926 silent film in which an actor plays Bell 

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message: In this section it is stated that "In 1800, the first female operator was hired in Montreal."
I don't know the original source or even what the date is supposed to be, but clearly the first female operator did not operate a phone 75 years before it was invented. Also, the statement itself is ambiguous or wrong. In other articles the timeline for first female operator is neither 1800 nor 1900, so unless it is referring specifically to the first female operator to operate in Montreal, something is off. I apologize that I don't have the technical knowledge to correct it myself.
67.219.94.105 (talk) 18:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's usage in the 20th century 

message: Can you think of a good place for us to include information how many people were using the telephone at various points in history? There's Telephone#Timeline of early development although that's scoped to technological development as opposed to how people adopted and used the telephone.
I ask this wanting to include the following bit from The Information: A History, a Theory, a Flood: In 1890, 500,000 people were using the telephone. By 1914, that number grew to 10,000,000 people Stussll (talk) 01:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telephone usage