Talk:The Magnificent Seven

message: Just a quick mention that in the production notes we see:
"Brynner, who was only half an inch taller than McQueen, would often build up a little mound of earth to stand on when the two actors were on camera together"
It was actually the other way around, Yul Brynner was 5'8" tall and McQueen 5'10", hence the reason for Brynner creating the mound of dust to stand on in scenes with McQueen.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indieshack (talk • contribs) 14:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production notes and feud between McQueen and Brynner 

message: (Forgive my lack of formatting or knowledge of wikipedia terminology, this is my first time looking into making a contribution)
My Dad, an avid Magnificent 7 fan, wants to contribute a publicity photo of the cast members, all sitting in folding chairs with their names.  He got it from press kit when the film was released in 1960.  There is no copyright information included with the photo, so it might fall under PD-pre1978 (?), but this being a *press* kit for a *movie*, I'm thinking the image must be under some kind copyright.  If I'm reading the image uploading guidelines correctly, the fact that there is this doubt is reason enough not to comtribute it.  Correct?  Thanks!
--Flickercuts (talk) 21:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publicity photo with Cast 

message: The article says that "The Pixar Animation Studios film A Bug's Life is also clearly based on the themes in "The Magnificent Seven" including: the Ant colony (Mexican village), the invading Grasshoppers (Caldera's gang), the Circus Bugs (the Magnificent Seven themselves); the battle, reversal and eventual triumph...even the music is clearly evocative of the sweeping, memorable themes in the "The Magnificent Seven".." Why say that A Bug's Life is influenced by The Magnificent Seven instead of that both are influenced by Seven Samurai? The only element said to be specific to The Magnificent Seven is the music, and there's no source regarding the similarity of the music in the two films.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.40.79.39 (talk) 03:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That paragraph probably shouldn't have been kept anyway (I just removed it). The persuasive language (e.g. repeated use of "clearly") and the lack of source make it look like original research. That being said, however, it's not invalid to think of a derivative work as an influence. For example, if I've only seen the derivative work and never the original, is it fair to say I was influenced by the original? I think it's more accurate to say I was influenced directly by the derivative work (perhaps indirectly by the original, but that's a bit misleading, and involves some synthesis, and might be slightly superfluous information anyway). --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence on A Bug's Life 

message: Re: this revert: can you point to a style guide supporting this?  MOS:DATE does not allow such an exception. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello  -- I'd say that the style guide prescription does not apply to this turn-of-phrase ("Variety magazine's December 31, 1960 review") because here the date is the direct modifier of the immediately-following noun "review". To put a comma before the noun interrupts this modifying relationship. Perhaps the MOS authors would disagree or perhaps they never contemplated this sort of grammatical structure. In any case, MOS is on your side, so I have no problem if you want to change it back. Regards -- WikiPedant (talk) 02:16, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

text: I'm also watching the page (following unrelated vandalism) but left the comma in place per MOS.  I would never use a comma in such situations outside Wikipedia. Certes (talk) 08:46, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm glad to hear, , that we think alike. IMO educated Brits are the most capable users of spoken and written English. -- WikiPedant (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comma 

message: The article currently states "Brad Dexter was cast at the urging of Frank Sinatra, who knew Sturges well, because Dexter had saved Sinatra's life when the two were swimming off the coast of Hawaii." without citation.  The incident that sentence references happened in 1964, well after the casting (and release) of the Magnificent Seven.  Just mentioning it in case anyone with more editing experience than I wants to look into that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.78.144 (talk) 03:24, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the statement that Brad Dexter was cast at Sinatra's urging. Dexter did rescue Sinatra, but in May 1964, several years after The Magnificent Seven was made. RHodnett (talk) 07:01, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brad Dexter/Frank Sinatra