Talk:Norwich and Peterborough Building Society

message: This is a quick fail due to the sources criteria. I have not given it a full review.
To get passed the "quick-fail" criteria the References section needs to be improved. As it stands now it appears there is only one true reference to sources (#1) while the others seem to be more of a footnote explanation. Please see WP:CITE and Wikipedia:Verifiability for what references in a good article would look like. The references in the article seem to be from the company, which simply do not count for reliability. On a side note, it would be good to get a picture of a branch to improve the astetics of the article. Great start, just needs some more work to get to GA. Aboutmovies 21:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA failed

message: Why is it necessary to have the full postal address for the HQ location? The City/Country seems to be the general norm on most company infoboxes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.228.253 (talk) 13:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only since you've gone around and changed them all. Please see the example given at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Society#Non-profit organisations. 163.167.129.124 15:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

message: With respect, as I reverted and requested discussion on the talk page first, it was somewhat rude of you to re-revert and make the same request. Regardless, straight from WP:NONFREE:
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As you can see, I've crossed out 3a and 8 - this image in this article most certainly does not count as minimal usage, nor is it significant to this article. Therefore it cannot be used under the fair-use policy here, and must be removed. Before replacing, please explain how exactly you feel that it does meet the criteria for fair-use. TheIslander 11:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For future reference, this dispute was resolved on the talk page of Ryan Postlethwaite, under the heading 3RR Problem. TheIslander 20:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  LINK Image 

message: For purposes of this policy "non-free content" means all copyrighted images and other media files that lack a free content license. Such material may be used on the English Wikipedia only where all 10 of the following criteria are met. 
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# Respect for commercial opportunities. Non-free content is not used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media. 
#(a) Minimal usage. As few non-free content uses as possible are included in each article and in Wikipedia as a whole. Multiple items are not used if one will suffice; one is used only if necessary. (b) Minimal extent of use. An entire work is not used if a portion will suffice.  Low- rather than high-resolution/fidelity/sample length is used (especially where the original could be used for piracy).  This rule also applies to the copy in the Image: namespace. If your image is greater than 500—600px add  to the Image: namespace and someone from Wikipedia will shrink the image to comply with this guideline.
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#* (c) The name of each article (a link to the articles is recommended as well) in which fair use is claimed for the item, and a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item, as explained at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. The rationale is presented in clear, plain language, and is relevant to each use.
As you can see, I've crossed out 3a and 8 - this image in this article most certainly does not count as minimal usage, nor is it significant to this article. Therefore it cannot be used under the fair-use policy here, and must be removed. Before replacing, please explain how exactly you feel that it does meet the criteria for fair-use. TheIslander 11:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For future reference, this dispute was resolved on the talk page of Ryan Postlethwaite, under the heading 3RR Problem. TheIslander 20:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Policy

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