Talk:Drama therapy

message: During my rewriting of this piece I removed this paragragh:
::The therapeutic efficacy of Drama Therapy has not yet been proven scientifically.  Some contend, however, that it is virtually impossible to scientifically prove the efficacy of any psychotherapeutic modality, new or old.  They argue that the variables are simply too vast, infinite in fact, making a controlled experiment impossible.  In fact, the efficacy of several scientifically-based therapies, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy, has been well established as one of the most effective forms of treatment for many mental illnesses.  Drama Therapy or other Creative Arts Therapies, not unlike Psychoanalysis, may elude scientific validation as the goals and methods of the modality is fundamentally based in art, not science.
This sounds like original research to me, and seems to be generally off-topic to an encylopedic entry. Leontes 20:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Scientific efficacy

message: Drama therapy has approx. 100,000 google links, whereas applied drama has 10,000. They appear to me to be the same discipline, perhaps an "also known" at the drama therapy article would be appropriate. Additionally, I find the some of the wording on the Applied Drama article superior, so we can merge that in. 15:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggestion seems appropriate to me.  --Jaxhere 14:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I can see how working with students and those with psychosis may seem like different disciplines, however,  speaking as an expressive therapist and drama therapist in training, a school is considered another special population. Just as traditional talk therapy is used with functional individuals who want to get more out of their life, or learn more about certain things, drama therapy is used with people without mental illness as an educational tool or exploratory measure.  I know a drama therapist who works in a school. In my experience, professionals in the field and various organizations would certainly characterize applied drama as drama therapy  leontes 16:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree that DT has much more of established theory and history behind it, but my argument is that applied drama isn't different enough from drama therapy to warrant it's own article.  It appears to be a subsection of some aspects that drama therapy.  The 'see also' suggestion in your original comment implies you support a separate article for applied drama, something I don't think is necessary. Would a sentence saying "The term applied drama has also been used to describe psychoeducational groups that use drama therapy." or the like speak to your concerns? leontes 17:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Merging, in effect, redirects applied drama to Drama Therapy.  If, as the article evolves, people find the Applied Drama term vague, or unnecessary, than it will be edited out. The merging to this article just helps avoid confusion by there being two articles about the same thing.  From your perspective, I would imagine that redirection not to be a bad thing, as drama therapy describes what applied drama does, as it is written now.  The whole reason I wish to merge them is that, from what I understand, I don't see Applied Drama speaking to anything that Drama Therapy already works on. Please be clear as to why you would disagree that Applied Drama should be merged into this article.  leontes 18:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Applied Drama

message: The certainty of the definition offered currently appears to be somewhat at odds with 
http://peterfelix.tripod.com/home/Drama.pdf pg 14
"Most practitioners probably agree that drama therapy refers to the utilization of dramatic methods in 
group situations, usually for the general purposes of promoting healing intrinsic to 
theatre art, developing skills of improvisation and creative thinking, expanding the 
repertoire of roles with the inclusion of body movement and other aesthetic 
dimensions." 124.168.211.106 (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of drama therapy 

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