Talk:Bremer wall

message: Are these the same thing as the Texas Barrier? I find few if any references to the "Bremer wall," and I never heard anything like it when I was in Kuwait, Afghanistan, or Iraq in 2005.  Hzoi 12:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

message: We claim here that a Texas barrier is the same as a Bremer wall except higher. However Texas Barrier redirects to constant slope barrier which is an article about a traffic engineering obstacle only a metre high. Some clarification is obviously required but I have no idea which is right. -- Securiger 07:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas barrier? 

message: I lived in the largest T-wall city called the IZ or Green Zone for 3 years...never once did I even hear the term Bremer Wall.  I have emailed dozens of co-workers who are all over Iraq still and no-one has ever heard that term.  I have seen the purchasing documents, they are called T-Walls. I have personally been on 6 different camps and it's all the same.
Texas Barriers and Alaska Barriers and Jersey Barriers are all different. The 12 foot high ones are T-Walls.
I have only recently read about people calling them Bremer Walls and it seems to be coming from media outlets where either a random reporter spent a minor amount of time there.  It was never a 'commonly used term' for the items so zero credit should be given to it. Bremer Wall appears to be a politically motivated term anyway. 
Unless anyone has any serious objections, I plan on comming back to this for a rename and fixing the redirects Lightertack (talk) 14:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This need to be changed to be called T-Wall

message: 200px|thumb|fragment of the second generation Berlin wall. Note the inverted "T" shape
::"These T-shaped walls were originally developed by the Israelis in the Israeli West Bank barrier. The term "T-wall" is commonly used by soldiers throughout Iraq, due to their shape being similar to an inverted T when viewed from the side."
Sure?. I think that the shape was invented by the great masters (no kidding, it is a Science in itself) of the Science of guarding frontiers: The "Democratic" East German military.
The base was larger in the inside of the wall (East Germany) to prevent inmates of that country to flee trying to tumble the wall with a vehicle.
Otherwise, the design (IMHO) is the real technical (note emphasis)  precursor of current Israeli and Iraqui walls. The big difference of course is that the German wall was a wall to prevent slaves to flee, and modern Israeli enad Iraqui walls have been created to prevent an enemy to harm your people  Randroide (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have my reservations 

message: I was with UNIFIL in Lebanon in 1989-1990 and the term we used was 'T-wall'. It was used by the Israelis as well as by the UN troops. Of course, the construction is very similar to sections of the Berlin Wall, but as long as no one can verify the East German name and make a case that the German name is more popular than 'T-wall', I guess that it should be named 'T-wall'. The 'Bremer Wall' seems to be anecdotal at best.
The problem with the name 'Texas Barrier' seems to be some kind of confusion due to two distinct cases:
# a kind of roadblock similar to the Constant Slope Barrier, and
# the border wall built between Texas and Mexico.
Making a quick Google search on the .mil top domain returns the following amount of hits:
# Bremer Wall = 0
# Texas Barrier = 33
# T-wall = 638
CB (talk) 00:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-wall