Talk:Deaths in 2006/archive2

message: I can not verify this:
*Sir Lee Clay, 42, Biologist and discoverer of the enzyme Deoxyribase, leprosy
Please give reference. Awolf002 19:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  rm 'Sir Lee Clay' until reference given 

message: Can anyone confirm whether the 'Sisal' that this Italian journalist invented is the programming language? i somehow suspect it's not the herb, which is where the redirect page currently points. —This unsigned comment is by W guice (talk • contribs) .
:It appears to be a betting company. —Whouk (talk) 10:51, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Massimo Della Pergola

message: This afternoon, I made note of the death of Tara Rose McAvoy, who was the current Miss Deaf Texas at the time of her death, having been crowned in June of 2005.  A user soon reverted it with the comment "rvt. -- despite the somber, yet hilarious irony". First off, I find nothing hilarious about it -- it was tragic. Second, I feel this death is notable. The girl was the current Miss Deaf Texas and supposed to represent her state at the Miss Deaf America paegant this summer. My source was not a local paper, but CNN .. which obviously felt it was notable enough to report. If this girl was the current Miss Texas, as opposed to the current Miss *Deaf* Texas, would this notice have been removed? I don't think so. I'd like it restored. —This unsigned comment was added by 24.215.196.167 (talk • contribs) .
:You are free to restore it yourself, within the bounds of WP:3RR. Gamaliel 02:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I am free to remove it, under the same reasoning.  Face it, Results 1 - 10 of about 134,000 for "miss texas. (0.16 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 348 for "miss deaf texas. (0.12 seconds).  *I* have more google hits than the entire Miss Deaf Texas competition does.   Results 1 - 3 of about 5 for "Tara McAvoy" "miss deaf texas". (0.16 seconds) 3 google hits does not a Globally notable case make, most highschool students who get killed rank higher.  Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 02:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't care at all here.  The only point I'll make is Kyle Lake, who made it onto the 2005 page on the basis of similar (funny to some) tragedy -- pastor electrocuted in a baptismal pool. Xoloz 02:58, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your point being? Don't you think you are getting a bit anal lately? Williamb 07:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pointing out these things helps keep the page consistent. "Anal lately?" -- Good grief, I am anal! :) I'm the dork who standardizes the periods, for heaven's sake.  I do believe the page needs it; as a main page link, it ought to look uniform.  I do recognize, however, that it is kinda pathetic.  I do it to keep from going nuts here at my desk.  Anyway, regarding the late Miss Texas, if I really thought she belonged, I would have joined the revert party.  As I said, I don't care.  Xoloz 16:14, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miss Deaf Texas 

message: I have moved Humphrey the Cat from the unsightly, bottom-of-page "date unknown" section, as I think that header is best avoided.  In the case of humans, when date of death is unknown, we typically list under date found, with appropriate notation.  For the cat, I have taken the liberty of placing him under the Ides of March, with the appropriate remark for clarity. Xoloz 19:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Humphrey the Cat

message: Google hits for "Adam Kirby death" only seem to concern the incident of an 11-year-old who was hit by a model aircraft 7 years ago. the fact that the IP is from a 6th-form college leads me to believe this is either misguided tribute or 'hilarious' 'joke', but not notable either way. W guice 10:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adam Kirby

message: Um... I don't think that someone posting incoherently, in broken english somewhere in an internet forum counts as a source, especially when it's not even clear that he's saying that this person has died.  If anyone else has a legit source, please include it.  Otherwise, I think this should be removed.
Wencer 22:42, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pierre Clostermann

message: i'm a little suspicious about this, the Middlebury home page has no mention of this professor's death despite its up-to-date news page; the only google hit involving 'death' and 'Mark Southern' tells the story of a man who died two years ago from an unexpected infection; all 'net references to the Prof. Southern in question have him as very much alive. stitch-up? W guice 20:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mark Southern

message: Stop putting down heart failure as cause of death, that's what happens to everybody..Williamb 19:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Heart failure

message: Let's list those legally executed in all other countries, if we're going to allow every American criminal executed to be listed. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 05:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never been for listing American executed in the first place. Many people aren't. Williamb 06:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I am among them :Þ  I very much dislike seeing American executions listed here. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 06:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Sherurcij, we've had this discussion before, and I've given the counter-arguments before.  If there is a verifiable, controversial execution from a country other than the US, it is welcome here. There aren't many verifiable ones, and that is sad.  Certainly, if that poor Rahman fellow in Afghanistan is executed, he will be listed. Xoloz 15:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, this is in particular a response to the child trafficker... sorry about that.  I agree, list it. Xoloz 15:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair is Fair

message: Is this verified? No sign of it on any of the usual news channels. Suspect another hoax along the lines of Madeleine Albright a few months ago.
:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12050783/ (cut and pasted from deaths) --Syrthiss 17:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caspar Weinberger 

message: # Oscar Stiegler, 102, expert on repair, inspection and construction of naval vessels [98]
...I am having a hard time finding why he is notable.  I found the obit notice for him, at least.  Google search "Oscar Stiegler navy" only returned his cite on the USNA's alumni site. --Syrthiss 19:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  With sympathy to Oscar Stiegler... 

message: General Augusto Pinochet is not dead. No mention of it on any Chilean news source. Apparent hoax. -- Mwalcoff 00:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This just in... 

message: Although I think that this is a great unit with a proud history, it doens't qualify as a person does it...
24.84.50.181 03:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Black Watch

message: Suicide? The Telegraph link is broken, while the Times article speaks of "a judgment with which many concurred in the years before his tragic death in an accident, when just approaching the height of his powers." W guice 07:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bob Carlos Clarke

message: *Joseph LaContour, 87, noted inventor and manufacturer of strap on devices, including The Humiliator, The Eye Opener, and The Black Camel, heart failure 
--Syrthiss 20:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a hoax than an anon has been inserting under different days over the last couple months.  Revert on sight. Gamaliel 20:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joseph LaContour 

message: Why is the current month repeated in 2006 Deaths as well as Deaths in Current Month 2006? Surely this requires a duplication of edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMarmite (talk • contribs) 
:Actually, it wasn't until you removed the redirect on Deaths in April 2006 that pointed here (which I have since reverted).  We edit the current month as Deaths in 2006, and when it is finished it gets moved to the by-month article. --Syrthiss 13:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Month 

message: I have added a link to a specialised website in the United Kingdom that displays online versions of Remembrance Books that are common in Crematoria across the country. Of particular interest is the Book of Remembrance for Mortlake Crematorium which contains one of the oldest Books of Remembrance in the UK. I trust that this will not be seen as vandalism or unnecessary linking as the site provides a valuable resource for the bereaved and grief stricken in the UK MScheerer 22:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specialised Websites 

message: I'm more than a little suspicious about this one - I have searched a few sites trying to corroborate this but have been unsuccessful ; it's from an anon IP that's apparently only ever made one edit - and the snooker World Championship is currently being played.  I'm pretty certain that if Hallett had died, a player of his stature would at least get a mention in the sports news. --Zaphod Beeblebrox 08:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've not been able to find anything either. I'd tagged it as needing a citation but since neither of us has found anything I'll remove him from the list. —Whouk (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Hallett 

message: The wikilink goes to the article on the DC Comics character. I'm not sure how the correct placeholder should be phrased. Korvac 14:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the moment I set it to link to Harvey Bullock (writer) and began an article on him. --Syrthiss 02:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harvey Bullock 

message: The source (which appears to be a blog entry, but the only one found searching Google News) to which I linked has a publication date of May 3.  It mentions his death as occurring "last week," making May 1 unlikely as his date of death.  The linked source further links to an article from Finnish broadcaster YLE, but since that article is in Finnish, it wouldn't be appropriate to link from an English Wikipedia article, although a more definitive day of death might be gleaned from someone who could read Finnish.  It also appears he has an IMDB entry, but the date of death has not been listed there yet. Spicy 14:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's appropriate to link to a Finnish article to verify a death (tho not for it to be the prinicipal reference for an article). Otherwise, en.wikipedia can only record deaths in the English-speaking world, fr.wiki in the French-speaking world, etc. Wikipedia is supposed to be a source of information for readers, not just a mirror of what their own newspapers tell them. JackyR 19:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rauno Lehtinen 

message: ...defies all known laws of notability. W guice 13:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Kennedy, shoot-out instigator 

message: is this a piss-take? W guice 20:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: let me expand and clarify. how in merry hell is playing a sport for a university team enough to consititute notability? W guice 12:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: College sports are quite popular in the United States and the media coverage of them makes stuff like this notable enough for inclusion. Gamaliel 12:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ahhh! righto. i stand corrected then, cheers W guice 14:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone from a university basketball team 

message: While my condolences go out to his friends and family, especially brother Larry, he just isn't notable enough to be here. He's already mentioned in Larry Hughes' article, thus he does not require any article of his own, much less a listing on this page. It's tragic, and I feel for those who knew him, but he just doesn't belong here. Cyrenaic
: I think you'll find he does have an article of his own, though... W guice 11:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed it to a redirect. —Whouk (talk) 11:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justin Hughes 

message: Anyone got a source for this reported death? User:125.186.140.196 seems to have done a lot of work on this entry over the last couple of months. But a quick googlenews isn't bringing any reports of his demise up. Steve-Ho 18:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Conrad Burns 

message: down on 17th May as "Caleb Cross, 27, Renowned gay rights activist, consumption". I've done a couple of quick searches and not much came up on this name. A gay porn actor does come up. Anyone got a source for this. I've added a  against it, but is he notable enough if this is not a hoax? Steve-Ho 10:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like friends of gays nonsense. "Consumption" makes it unlikely too. I'm removing it as potential attack vandalism. If a source turns up it can go back... —Whouk (talk) 12:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Caleb Cross

message: anyone got a source for this "death" - a quick google on googlenews isn't showing any death reports? Steve-Ho 11:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: no, nothing from anywhere as of now. i think we should call bullshit on this W guice 12:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: George Carlin

message: He is listed under May 14, 2006 AND May 15, 2006. Is this an error, or did he die twice?
*He has been removed from May 14 as the sources indicating he died on the Monday which was the 15th. Capitalistroadster 10:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Crile III 

message: I don't see this person as noteworthy enough- should it be removed Steve-Ho 07:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salem Kadih

message: How about removing the links hawking products or calling up pagead2.googlesyndication.com (that is, adsense) from the EL section? --Nnp 21:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Someone seems to have screwed up the links template so that it doesn't work. Capitalistroadster 07:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Link page