Talk:Catholic Apostolic Church

message: Something odd has happened in the Twelve Tribes section, in case anyone has the inclination to fix it. HenryFlower 14:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oddness 

message: Since this article was recently classed as a stub, I have done a major rewrite and expansion. Let me know... 81.242.39.238 (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  destubbification 

message: Edward Irving neither neither actually founded nor anticipated the Catholic Apostolic Church.  This is clearly stated in the text.  It is also confirmed by the referenced work by Flegg.
SaneSerenity (talk) 11:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Edward Irving

message: This article states the year of Irving's trial and deposition as 1931. The article Edward Irving says 1933, and it also says that he was deposed from the ministry of the Church of Scotland after he and his followers moved their activitites to a new address. A minor detail, but still: the articles contradict each other. --Hurven (talk) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irving's trial and deposition 

message: I have made revisions to the lead. The previous version began with what the subject of the article was not, as opposed to what it was. I've moved the text detailing the circumstances of the movements name to a separate paragraph in the introduction. Ltwin (talk) 01:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisions to lead section

message: Quote:  ... While often referred to as Irvingism, it was neither actually founded nor anticipated by Edward Irving. The Catholic Apostolic Church was organised in 1835 under the lead of apostles. The last apostle died in 1901 after which the membership gradually declined.
The term Catholic Apostolic Church belongs to the entire community of Christians who follow the Nicene Creed. It has, however, also become specifically applied to the movement. The title was never assumed by the members, except insofar as it applied to the whole community of Christians as described above. This misapprehension results from later external analysis, which assumed that the results of the ecumenical prayer movement in the early 19th century, accompanied by what were regarded as outpourings of spiritual gifts in Great Britain (and elsewhere, though swiftly repressed by the local church authorities in other countries), was the genesis of yet another Christian sect.
This is a lot of theory-finding, possibly resulting from a highly partial point of view.  Edward Irving did found the church, there is no such thing as accidentally founding a church.  Nor does the term Catholic Apostolic Church apply to all Christians "of the Nicene creed".  AFAIK this is the name chosen by the church itself.
The non-NPOV attitude permeates the article, e. g. when it is claimed further on that "In 1830, prophetic utterances were recorded in Port Glasgow, Scotland, among dissenters and Karlshuld, Bavaria, among Roman Catholics. These took the form of prophecy, speaking in tongues and miraculous healing."
Please help to make this article NPOV.  Thank you. Maikel (talk) 08:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The lead section is wrong & NPOV

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: ... is certainly important, should there be any doubt. Whether it is good enough I can't tell. Stephphie (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Historically important, for the 19th century and for the story of the New Apostolic Church. Stephphie (talk) 17:26, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article 

message: How is it that only five of the twelve are named with no further explanstion? 2600:1004:B1C2:9258:0:C:2F3:5201 (talk) 03:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Twelve Apostles