Talk:Big Brother (franchise)

message: Should it not read "fewer than 16 viewers" as well? There must be some way that is within the scope of Wiki to include that fact that the program is so boring that the "live feed" can sometimes show "a spiderweb with a spider in it" as "the most interesting  thing going on at the moment?" There must be some reviews out there some where thay liken the program to watching paint dry, dead grass grow or so on.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bat Flattery (talk • contribs) 21:03, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: fewer than 16 participants

message: Are the rules of the game posted anywhere? 
Here are some of the questions I have about the rules of the game:
1) What happens when they are down to the final 3?   Is there still a HOH and a Veto? 
2) Who decides who wins?   It is a vote from the Jury?   Do they get to watch the cams or have they been in the dark since they left? 
3) If in the final four two people get put on the block then one of the block members wins veto I would assume that the remaining person automatically gets put on the block ( assuming they use it to save themselves ).   Who then gets to vote?  Only the one taken off the block?  Basically meaning that the Veto winner of the final four gets to vote off the person of their choice ( other than the HOH and themself ) It almost makes the block pointless right? 
Anyway can someone answer these?
:You need to sign your posts and the rules that you are mentioning are exclusive to the American Big Brother. And even though this isn't the place I will answer your questions:
:
The Final Four	The Final Three	Jury Members
*Head of Household is determined
*The HoH nominates two of the remaining three HG's for eviction
*The Final Power of Veto competition is held.
*The Final PoV winner can chose if they want to use the veto.
*The one HouseGuest NOT nominated is the sole vote for eviction.	
*The Final Head of Household competition is held.
*The winner of Part One advances to Part Three and skips Part Two.
*The losers from Part One battle in Part Two. The winner advances to Part Three.
*The winners from Parts One and Two compete for the final HoH in Part Three.
*The winner of Part Three is the final HoH and guaranteed a spot in the Final Two.
*There is no Power of Veto competition.
*The losers of the final HoH competition are nominated by default for eviction.
*The Final HoH choses one of the remaining two HouseGuests to be evicted.	
*The last seven evicted HouseGuests comprise the Jury.
*Jury Members are not allowed contact with the outside world, even though they have been evicted.
*The Jury is sequestered in a special house generally in Mexico.
*The only footage the Jury is allowed to see is competitions and ceremonies. They are not allowed to see any Diary Room footage or any footage containing strategy.
*The Jury decides the winner of Big Brother once there are two HouseGuests left.
*America will control Eric's jury vote in Big Brother 8 due to Eric being America's Player. Generally America does not have a vote in who wins.
:Hope this helps you. It is detailed and simple as I could make it. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 02:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Housemates go back to their regular lives unless there is a twist involved. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 21:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are the Rules? 

message: It's not great, but I put it in the variation of format section. If anybody else can make it look better, it would be much appreciated. MadMagFreak 05:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it keep getting changed? Notable winners are NOT a variation of the original format! Someone help me out here! MadMagFreak 23:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added a section about Twins/Triplets 

message: I am in the process of cleaning up the article in hope of decreasing its size and removing that annoying tag on the front. You can see my current progress at my Sandbox. I have the "Format" area done and spitted up the information to make it easier to read. You can see what material I have removed in User:Alucard 16/Sandbox/Removed. Any comments on what to do is nice I love comments. I didn't want to make the changes directly to the article since their big changes. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up the article 

message: I kind of tweaked the US incidents to a easier to find format. If anyone likes it, I will proceed to do the whole incident section with that format  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anarchy 228 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother US Incidents

message: Shouldn't all of the official website links be at the bottom of the page in the eternal links section rather than in the table In23065 (talk) 20:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so, a lot of shows that have a similar table have the links in the table. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 21:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would make the table much more compact and simple, over the next few days i will work on it in my sandbox and we can go from there. In23065 (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where's the Big Brother Exchange section?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.136 (talk) 10:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah. Thanks for telling me i have now restored it.In23065 (talk) 15:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official websites 

message: I have reverted the page a couple of times today as Season 7 of BB USA was listed twice in the table - together with the other standard BB USA editions and also underneath as an All Star edition. It has always been listed on the page as an All Star edition. But in any case it should not be listed twice which is why I reverted it. Sorry if I have caused an "edit war" or offended anyone, it was not my intention. Worldofbb (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted it once because I didn't realise that it was in a different area and i thought that you were vandalising it In23065 (talk) 14:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Recent revert 

message: In the American version, the broadcaster counts the All-Stars edition as Season 7. However, other countries count their All-Stars version as a seperate edition of Big Brother and it doesn't count towards their main edition. It was decided when back when there was a seperate article for spin-off editions that the seventh season of the American version would not be counted as a main edition, it would be counted along with the spin-off editions. . Now when the tables were merged the seventh season is still counted seperate from the main editions because it is an "All-Stars" version of the American edition. The main editions (seasons with new people each year) are listed as 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 with 7 omitted because it is listed down with the "All-Stars" edition and repeating it twice is redundant and makes the article bigger. Due to the previous discussion if anyone merges the two sections on the table for Big Brother US together or list Season 7 in both the main edition section and the All-Stars section will be counted as vandalism. If you feel this should be changed discuss it first. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 01:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note: Big Brother USA Season listing 

message: E4, which is a network belonging to UK TV network channel 4, have announced a zombie horror show based directly on the franchise. Called "Dead Set" it is about a zombie outbreak that happens outside of the house and the contestants are in the only safe place. Not sure if you want to add this to the wiki entry some how  magnius (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dead Set is a Spin-off (look at that page, tell me how it isn't!) from the British version of Big Brother. It features the same presenters in cameo roles, is filmed in the actual BB house and name checks BB frequently. It is made by the same production company for broadcast on the same channel as BB. It IS a spin off and should remain on this entry as it is very relevant to the show. magnius (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the place for it please keep the section in Big Brother (UK) untill we decide what we are going to do with it. In23065 (talk) 15:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Set

message: in the erticle writen that in some editions the prizes is house and tour etc.
do you know in which editions?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.172.203 (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: nnobody knows?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.181.180 (talk) 10:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  prizes 

message: I think Big Brother made a big deal of controversy which should be mentioned.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.25.38 (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Controversy section was moved to individual Big Brother Series. In23065 (talk) 23:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy? 

message: I don't believe the derivative series "Loft Story", listed as being produced in Canada and France, should be included here. Loft Story, to me knowledge, is not connected to Big Brother in any way and is simply an adaptation of the format. In fact the Wikipedia article on Canada's version says nothing about it being part of the Big Brother franchise. I say it should be removed from the charts and general discussion and replaced with a See Also link. Are there other versions listed here that aren't really Big Brother? 68.146.62.92 (talk) 13:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Does Loft Story belong here?

message: I don't know how to change it, but Enemies was not a subtitle for Big Brother 8 (US), just a theme. Can someone do that please?Stjimmy61892 (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subtitle Chart 

message: To the administrators: how can we clean-up the article? What particular part/s of the articles are in need of a clean-up? LordBelly06 (talk) 06:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project: Clean-Up 

message: So far, there are, listed, 6 pan-regional Big brothers. What's the truth about the Greek Big brother as a "Greece and Cyprus" Big Brother?LordBelly06 (talk) 01:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pan-Regional Big Brothers 

message: Shouldn't there be a section in this article on which franchise are still running and which have already been cancelled? I already know of UK, Australia, and Middle East being cancelled. Philippines, Africa, Finland, and Yugoslavia are still running, I think.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.178.195 (talk) 10:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on Current Status 

message: There should be mention of this somewhere in the variations section, the uk has had this the usa too and some other countries.--Cooly123 21:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mole or sabatour  

message: With the 3rd teen phillipeans edition won by a canadian, there should be a note of winners of big brother who were not actually from the home country from the said edition.--Cooly123 00:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  International housemate winning 

message: Can someone find the earliest eviction for the show otherall and the latest 1st evicton too?  Also, what is the shorest season in days and the longest in days (disregard any celebrity editions and big brother germany 1 year show). --Cooly123 19:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evictions and length  

message: Could we have an upcoming series subsection on the main page?--Cooly123 20:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The table already lists the upcoming series, in fact they are in bold so they are easier to find. I don't see the benefit of an upcoming series section. AnemoneProjectors 23:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree! Having a dedicated section would most likely lead to the posting of countless rumors and speculation. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. At this level we are only interested in verifiable information. The Big Brother pre-season is filled with countless unverified rumor and some outright lies which do not belong on Wikipedia. 142.110.227.247 (talk) 02:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upcoming series 

message: In the list of series and their winners, BB Finland #5 (2009) winner Aso Alanso's nationality is marked as Iranian. However there is source for that. And more importantly the list is the only place where this info even is. 85.217.34.189 (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother Finland #5 

message: Does anyone have information about the possibility of Big Brother going to China?  Also we should list the year in which Big Brother started (1999) and the following years and which Big Brother's had started airing, finishing with currently new 2011 Big Brother begining.--Cooly123 22:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The likelihood of Big Brother in China is highly unlikely. Please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. The only way such information would be included here would be if there was some sort of confirmation from Endemol or the local producers in China. Please refrain from asking such questions here in the future as they have no relation to the article or the way the article is edited. 142.110.227.247 (talk) 01:58, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Brother China? 

message: Article says "the UK version adapted the discussion of nominations in 2011 ." Which country was it? United States or United Kingdom? --EarthFurst (talk) 07:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It had been changed to United Kingdom, but this felt a little strange so I linked it to the relevant BB article.  Are readers really going to want to see links to articles on the host countries?  Perhaps this should be revisited. Reidgreg (talk) 23:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  which adopted nomination discusion in 2011? 

message: I've removed bold and italic from the table in words such as "upcoming season" because it goes against Wikipedia's manual of style. I started making further cleanups, but haven't finished. This includes using italics for titles (everything under "Local title" should be italic) and making sure the word "season" is in lower case (where it appears after a presenter's name). Does anyone have objections? Especially to the removal of bold (the other stuff should be fine). –AnemoneProjectors– 15:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly people object because all my hard work, that conforms to the manual of style, has been changed back to include bold and italic and upper case text. This is wrong. But I'm not going to change it back, I'm just going to let this article look incredibly unprofessional. Since nobody else cares, why should I? –AnemoneProjectors– 13:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables 

message: This article was tagged for (among other things) copyediting, and one of a copy editor's jobs is to bring an article into compliance with the Manual of Style. MOS:FLAG states,  and . It took me several days to painstakingly copyedit this article; if it's tagged again for copyediting, I suggest removing the  tag from the article, tagging the talk page with  and moving on. Don't waste your time, as I did. Miniapolis 15:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for all your hard work. I have previously spent a lot of time removing all the bold and italic text from the tables, only to have them be put back in within days, so this article is something that needs very closely monitoring for these kinds of edits. I'm not going to do it more than once. If people want to mess up the page, I'll just let them. (As you can see from the section above, which I had forgotten about!) –AnemoneProjectors– 18:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advice to copy editors 

message: This is a major aspect of the series, so I added a line in "Overview" about this. Although I didn't add a source, it's easily verifiable that sexual relationships do occur and how much is shown varies - US Big Brother shows nothing, whereas some of the European versions broadcast pretty much everything, or their Net feeds do. I think this can be expanded upon, however, as this aspect of the show has received non-trivial news coverage regarding controversy, and when the UK version of Big Brother broadcast intercourse between contestants for the first time, it made headlines. 70.72.201.229 (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual relationships 

message: Frankie Grande redirects to his sister Ariana Grande's article.  Can anyone start a separate article for Frankie Grande?  After college, where he was a Biology/performance major, he started his acting career in the National Tour of Dora the Explorer Live!.  He then appeared in Mamma Mia! on Broadway, held the title of Mr. Broadway 2007, produced Jude Law's Hamlet on Broadway (and vehicles for David Hyde Pierce and Jim Belushi), founded the non-profit arts empowerment organization Broadway in South Africa, toured with Justin Bieber and his sister (as a dancer), and had his own one-man show in New York. He also has an expanding social media presence. See this, for example. He is currently appearing on Big Brother. Here is more Biographical info on him and here is his Big Brother bio video. Happy editing, everyone. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Frankie Grande

message: Colours shouldn't be used to show if a programme is current, past or whatever. There's a column that makes it clear what's what, it says "upcoming season" or "current season", if there's one on or coming soon. The use of colour makes the table look messy and actually harder to understand, and goes against WP:ACCESS. Can we remove the colours please? –AnemoneProjectors– 11:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I preferred it when there was a section below saying the current and upcoming series. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we should bring that back. –AnemoneProjectors– 08:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions table colours 

message: Where a flag is used next to a contestant name, is that supposed to indicate the contestant's most recent residence, their citizenship, or something else? I want to make some clarifications and corrections on one of the pages, but I want to make sure the policy is consistent. These distinctions do have consequences for some of these potential edits. Rhialto (talk) 17:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contestant names and country flags 

message: Some of the new upcoming seasons are too soon to be included in the article as there is not much to be said about them, other than the confirmation of the future seasons.--OfficerAPC (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Seasons 

message: This is a summary of my copyedit:
* general grammar, punctuation, spelling, markup, cleanup, and minor redundancies of phrasing
* serial commas were only used 1/3 of the time, so for consistency I removed them (except for inline lists in Housemate Exchanges and  Evicted Housemate Visits where they were needed for clarity).
* for consistency, used "US" in reference to the American version of the show (see: MOS:NOTUSA); I feel this also works better in the context of a global franchise to disambiguate from other meanings of "American". 
* in agreement with Plain English, rephrased some overly-formal language (eg: with whom, to which, etc.)
* when a single series ran over a year break, I used the briefer two-digit number for the closing year of the date range, as tends to be done with television and athletic seasons. (MOS:DATERANGE)  eg, BB Germany season 6 (2005–06).  (This was already done in the charts at the end.)  When describing multiple seasons, I'd use the full four-digit year for both ends of the range.
* WP:overlinking:  sometimes the same term was linked three times in a paragraph; once per section should be sufficient for an article of this size.
* the section hierarchy needed a little work.  (1) I promoted the empty section Multi-Franchise Competitions up one level so that Eurovision Song Contest and FIFA World Cup fit within it.  (2) I made a section for Twists (single series) and demoted all of the single-series twist sections (some of which were a single paragraph) to fit within it.  (That should also tighten-up the table of contents and eliminate some whitespace.)
* There were two twists in Multiple Franchise#Other which did not involve multiple franchises; I moved these to the beginning of the main Other category for now.  (I'll try to look at further organizing this section, or moving some items up into the other Twist sections.)
I'll be making another pass, looking at what can be summarized a little more concisely – after reading several of the series articles to be sure I understand the meaning.  (This article is meant to be a summary of 387 series, and should only mention what's notable at that level.)
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them here.  Thanks! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:25, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyedit Nov 2016 

message: Is there really a need to include the most recent winner in the versions section. I don't really see a reason to because this page is about the franchise as a whole not independent versions. TheDoctorWho (talk) 12:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That information should only be included in the individual version articles; this article serves as the aggregate article for the whole franchise. OfficerAPC (talk) 13:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should the most recent winner be included? 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise).  TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise)]]

message: Hi!
I edited the following paragraph to the article (March 16 2019 8:36)
"Commercial Realisation
Today, many websites offer for a fee an insight into the private rooms of unsuspecting people. One example is reallifecam.com . The websites often pretend to the viewer a victim's knowledge about the espionage, thereby playing both ends against the middle by using the viewers' shame about their act of voyeurism together with the viewer's fear of prosecution to silence the audience."
As all of my edits it has been deleted. Can you help me please to write in an acceptable way? Is the naming of the website not ok, as it is not closed, and probably will never? Or is the whole paragraph not acceptable, as it shows the realisation of the dystopia and a lacking intervention of the security agencies? Or what else is the issue?
As all of my edits, these questions are not meant to be accusing but asked very directly in hope to get a direct answer how to reformulate the paragraph to match wikipedias terms of acceptance. On the official page only formal rules are explaint, no rules about content.
Maybe User 2602:306:3793:A3B0:FC85:F6A0:83BE:945A himself can tell what exactly made him delete the paragraph.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:A198:9000:106B:85B5:FFB:F444 (talk) 01:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need help on formulation 

message: Big brother franchise what are the procedures and requirements for establishing a new big brother in particular big brother Uganda. Arslan 2019 (talk) 19:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big brother Uganda 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 10 to 25 people desperate for attention agree to live with each other for 60 to 130 days in order to gain fame or a cash prize. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  gnu57 14:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "10 to 25 people desperate for attention agree to live with each other for 60 to 130 days in order to gain fame or a cash prize" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Currently, all "align=left" in the Versions table were removed by the user Gervoi for no reason. It makes contents in the tables not aligned and looks messy. I reverted this edit move but this user undid my revert. OK, I'm not starting an edit war, so this should be discussed.
Should "align=left" be added back as before or keep it as what it is right now? Please explain your reasons.
—— A675974811 (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC+8)
:The "align=left" should be put back the table looks like an even bigger mess than it originally was. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 07:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "align=left"