Talk:Alexander

message: The word "Alexander" doesn't mean "defender of men" but "defender from men". Ofcource they mean "defender from the enemy men". In Greek wikipedia they have the correct etymology. 
In Greek the prefix "alex-" means "the one that repels something/the one that defends from something".
Αλεξίπτωτο (alexiptoto) is the parachute from Alex+ptosi (ptosi=falling). So the word means "defender from falling", and not "defender of the fall".
Αλεξίσφαιρο (alexisfero) means bulletproof (sfera=bullet). So the word means "defender from bullets", and not "defender of the bullet".
Αλεξικέραυνο (Alexikeravno) is the lightning rod, where keravnos=lightning. So the word means "defender from lightnings".
Αλεξιβρόχιο (Alexivrohio) is the umbrella, where vrohi=rain. So the word means "protector from the rain".
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.92.173.212 (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: Word Alexander is an albanian language word. It have no greek meaning. In albanian language it means like this : A (asht, eshte) meaning "to be", LE (le, lind) meaning "to born", KSA (ksaj, kesaj) meaning "this", ANDER (ander, enderr) meaning "dream". And in albanian language of today Alexander means "is born in this dream". This is more strong and more accurate meaning than the greek meaning "aleksos+aner". If it is true the albanian ethimiological meaning then albanians have the right to claim Alexander the Great as a cultural forebear. User:newalbin   —Preceding undated comment added 16:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Albanian translation is very unlikely, because the language evolved in the last 2500 years and it should look different from what it was back then. Comparing the name with a reconstructed proto-Albanian expression would be more appropriate. Bogdan | Talk 14:05, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Cheeky and scientists

message: "Alexander" currently redirects to Alexander the Great. In my opinion it would be more reasonable to redirect to this page. Ornilnas 15:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Alexander" redirect

message: If the article can mention Lex as a shortening of the name ('Also in more modern times, Alexander has been shortened to "Lex" (popularized by the Superman villain Lex Luthor)') then why is Alex only mentioned as a Portuguese variant, when it's widely used in English speaking countries too?--Jcvamp 03:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lex 

message: I assume that Al is a short form of Alexander, but I see no mention of this neither in this article nor on the Al disambiguation page. __meco 08:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Al is short for Albert usually, sometimes Alfred. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs) 04:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, I think Al is short for any name starting with "Al", but mainly a male nickname. aLii 12:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al 

message: Why does Alistair redirect here? They are completely different names.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.10.207.234 (talk • contribs).
:Because the article claims it is a variation of Alexander? -- JHunterJ 17:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alistair

message: Alexis (variants include Aleksis, Alexius, Alexus, Alesio, Aleksei, Alexina, Elek and Alejo) is not a variant of Alexander. The name originates from Aléxeios wich means defender.
Alexander is a romanization of the greek Aléxandros ( formed by two words translating to "defender" and "male" ).
Although they do enjoy a similar meaning and Aléxandros might have been derived from Aléxeios, Alexis and Alexander have been standalone names for thousands of years. Therefore I suggest giving Alexis_(name) an article of its own.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueblister (talk • contribs) 05:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexis 

message: I agree and believe this viewpoint.it raised chain reflections for eastern Asia. have any one agree?
Hans yulun lai 04:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexander made and pushed [[Qin (state)]] more stronger? 

message: Probably not. I don't speak Somali, but I'm willing to bet it's 'اسكندر' as in other Semitic languages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.209.49.114 (talk) 05:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I was thinking. I was trying to find where it got changed, but I'll just delete if I can't. Better not to have it than to be misinforming people. Tad Lincoln (talk) 02:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Alexander, but call me Steve for short if you're Somalian" 

message: Why was the info about "Alexander" being an "inverse tatpurusha" compound removed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.34.219 (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the info about "Alexander" being an "inverse tatpurusha" removed? 

message: The etymology explained here is slightly different from that on the Alexandra page. Confused!
There is no word as "aleksis" in the greek language. Also the second part "aner" is far away from the meaning "ander". Word "alexander" does not have a greek meaning nor a roman meaning. Word Alexander is an albanian language word. It have no greek meaning. In albanian language it means like this : A (asht, eshte) meaning "to be", LE (le, lind) meaning "to born", KSA (ksaj, kesaj) meaning "this", ANDER (ander, enderr) meaning "dream". And in albanian language of today Alexander means "is born in this dream". Albanian language explanation seems more accurate than any other explanation for the word Alexander User: newalbin  —Preceding undated comment added 16:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Αλέξανδρος literally means "cannot be defeated by men". Plain and simple. Anyone who speaks common Greek can realise this. Compare it to αλεξίσφαιρο, αλεξικέραυνο (bullet-proof vest, lightning rod). The etymology you see everywhere is probably the result of a non-native-Greek speaker who just added words he translated and this is what he came up. I know it's romantic to say defender (i dig it too), but it really means "undefeated by men". According to myth, Alex the Great was considered undefeated in battle and he was thought to can only be defeated by the Gods. CuteHappyBrute (talk) 00:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Please change this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.212.41.100 (talk) 05:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Like saying that "Leonidas" is a Spartan name, not Greek. A Macedonian (talk) 07:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexander is a Macedonian name not Greek. 

message: Shouldn't people carrying the name Aleksander with a "k" be reflected here in the disambiguation. If not, a separate Aleksander (disambiguation) page needs to be established. werldwayd (talk) 14:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: What about Aleksander?

message: I am not entirely convinced with the etymology. Does Alexander protect his men or does he protect his people from other men? I admit that my Ancient Greek is not great, but in modern Greek the only two words with the "alex" particle I can think of, αλεξίπτωτο (parachute – protects from πτώση/fall) and αλεξίσφαιρο (bullet-proof – protects from σφαίρα/bullet) would suggest that the name means "he who wards off men" rather than "he who protects men". Iago212 11:23, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your translation coincides with the explanation given by the German version of this article, which refers to Duden's book on given names. --62.227.96.205 (talk) 15:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

text: @Iago4096 Every single of the 12 millions Greek speaking persons would agree that it means "protects from men". So does the Greek Wikipedia. But when I tried to correct it in the past, it was reverted because I didn't mention a source. 2A02:85F:F5A3:E5E5:49BB:1416:FD62:55FF (talk) 02:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protects men / wards off men 

message: Section 2.5 is just labelled "O".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.6.170 (talk) 23:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wait, what is the "O" section for? 

message: I could be wrong here, but shouldn't basically every entry in the "In other languages" section be enclosed in a Lang template?
Unless I'm wrong I propose each entry be placed in its language-specific Lang template thusly: "", and instead of using the transliteration in those templates we perhaps should instead use, when needed, the "" option which will make things much more regular. Are there any opinions on this? --Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 00:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Lang Templates in the "In other languages" section 

message: Would the earliest attested form not be the one referenced in the Hittite treaty as the Mycenaean Greek tablet would presumably date around the time of the fall of Mycenae when most of the tablets would have been buried and preserved, and the name itself be of Hittite/Luwian origin since that Hittite treaty with that Wilusan king is the first most prominent bearer of the name? Interesting anyways, as the Anatolian Hittites and Luwians, and the Mycenaeans were more closely related than thought, as either both peoples didn't diverge that far apart after leaving the Danube valley or the advances of the bronze age brought them closer together again. Akin to the Latin speaking Romans and the Celtic speaking Gauls, whose languages were different enough to need interpreters but close enough that both could fairly readily become bilingual, which is why the Gaulish language and people wound up so readily Romanised.
As an aside; that the form found in the Mycenaean version is "a-re-ka-sa-da-ra-ka" is interesting as the "ka" looks like that old "sun cross" symbol and "ka" is Egyptian for "soul" though ancient Egyptian is admittedly a language isolate. Puts me in mind of the "dingir" symbol in Sumerian cuneiform, itself another language isolate. Who knows, maybe there was an earlier wave of Orientalisation which might explain why all those bronze age kingdoms and empires were so uniform and collapsed at about the same time. 2A00:23C5:E295:D700:406A:C642:B4F8:167B (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest attestation 

message: I was thinking about the name, Alexander The Great, some people have created a controversy over "The Great" added to his name. Would love to hear your opinion. Englistaan (talk) 09:45, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy