Talk:National Animal Identification System

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Outdated information as of Nov 22, 2006 when USDA proposed updated policy guidance.
Dixxie 22:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

message: This article is blatently POV. Amazingly the anti-NAIS position is the briefest section of them all and labled concerns. This misrepresents the huge grass roots movement against it, the millions of farmers and traditionalists who are outraged by this and the substanitive debate going on and mostly ignored by both the government and the media. Anti-NAIS groups and indivduals are asking very important questions that are being neglected. They are pointing out potential problems with the system that are not being addressed.
As it stands this article is biased and makes unverifyable truth claims by quoteing only one side of the debate. This is proved by the fact that nearly every other sentence is provided with a citation from the USDA website. It is a fact that the USDA claims these benifits about their proposed NAIS and it is a fact that the program is taking shape much the same way they are describing it, but it is not verified that NAIS will make our nations foods safer. This is an unverified POV. To make this article conform to NPOV it needs to acuratly protray both sides of the debate.
--Rclose 19:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree -- I am planning to work to bring some balance to the article. Jrtayloriv (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like the concerns section has been beefed up (no pun intended) considerably since the first comment, I took the liberty of organizing through subheaders and added some data to the financial concerns section, anyone feel up to cleaning up/source the other sections a bit? Rruitenberg (talk) 07:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems someone has gone through the article with a strong anti-NAIS bias and added lots of stuff without sourcing, is it really not possible to keep it just kind of neutral? Totally unsubstansiated figure on the average herd size of `about 15'... Just a quick search on the Web and I find the Nebraska Beef Council claiming the average size of the U.S. beef herd is 43 http://www.nebeef.org/state_industry_facts.asp and UMass has the average size of the U.S. dairy herd at 128 http://www.umass.edu/agcenter/census/dairy-herd%20sizes.html     I tried to add some neutral info in a previous edit (for example on the cost) and I can't really be bothered to weed out all the non-NPOV crap. Sigh. Rruitenberg (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro-NAIS Bias

message: Are animals such as cats, dogs and hamsters required to be tagged and identified? That sounds like it would be going way over the limit...Although the whole program itself is already going over the limit. Scorpionman 03:47, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animals 

message: Oh yes... "Voluntary at the State level."
I wonder just how "voluntary" all those little FFA & 4H kids in the midwest (that were **required** to get a premis ID number to participate) think it is?  Or, how about Prop 2 that's on the ballot in California?  Who thinks that California dept of Ag is actually going to keep track of all those animals & prem's themselves?  Don't y'll think they'll just roll that into NAIS?  Calif's Prop2 is just a way to make NAIS mandatory in California. But, it's being sugar coated to say that it's to protect the little chickies!
Oh yes... it sure if "Voluntary"!  
Allmuxedup (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have citations for all that please feel free to add to the article. Bcostley 01:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voluntary 

message: Some vandalism ongoing here, why? Australia still operates its National Livestock Identification System as far as I can tell from http://www.mla.com.au/TopicHierarchy/IndustryPrograms/NationalLivestockIdentificationSystem/default.htm
Will restore or repair unless someone can show me the source showing the program has indeed been dismantled, Australian government Web sites shows it's still in operation. Rruitenberg (talk) 19:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other countries 

message: NAIS has been withdrawn by USDA and is to be replaced with something else. Someone might wish to write a new article. I can't do it, because of my personal and seething anti-NAIS POV.
Here's the scoop...
http://www.usda.gov/nais now redirects to
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/traceability/
http://www.usda.gov/nais/840 (the instructions on how to buy mandated
840 devices for your animals) is now a 404.
Lots more at http://nonais.org/
In other words NAIS is dead, and USDA has swept under the carpet all the evidence that they once touted it. These things do not die easily. Zombies next?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snezzy (talk • contribs) 08:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NAIS is dead 

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