Talk:Mana (Japanese musician)

message: I removed a bit about Mana's supposed age. It read: " (although, many fans believe him to be somewhere between him late thirties to mid-forties)".
That seems a bit on the high side; if he' 40 today, that would have made him 25 in Girl'e, 26 in Matenrou, and 28 when he founded Malice Mizer. That seems rather unlikely. So, I removed it.
flowersofnight 00:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's age 

message: The wikipedia article for Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance claims our beloved Mana is credited as "Soshiro Hokkai" for writing the videogame's music. I have played this game, and was quite taken when I realized why I must love the music so much.
*Mana did not write the music for that game. He only wrote a cell phone ringtone, "La nuit blanche", to promote the game; this ringtone was only released in Japan. Mana's real name is still unknown. flowersofnight 18:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's real name 

message: I just reverted another change of someone saying that Mana is commonly figured to be between 35 and 45 years of age. As in my comment above, this is unlikely. More importantly, it is unsourced speculation that does not belong on Wikipedia.
flowersofnight 23:42, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's age again 

message: Once again the HoD page insists that Mana is responsible for the game's music.Calicore 03:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's real name ''again'' 

message: With the correct spelling of Mana's superior and elegent clothing line, Moi-même-Moitié; it literally translates to "Me even Half" in French. "Myself Half" is incorrect and Mana's clever interpretation for his superior designer clothing line is quite logical as he models for both male and female styles; if you were to use the correct accents on the first and last e's within the name then it is quite sensical and clever as Mana models for both Elegant Gothic Lolita and Elegant Gothic Aristocrat fashions and is successful in accurately portraying both of the fashions with a perfectionist's precision (hence Me even Half of both gender) and is also indicitive of his cross-dressing tendencies most likely due to some sort of fetishistic transvesticism.
17 June 2007 (UTC) MoimemeMoitie
*While I don't disagree with your reasoning, I'm not quite sure Mana is a master of the French language. Moi dix Mois, for example. Is that a correct French word structure or phrase? I've never seen anything like that in my few years of French. Moi-même is myself, but it's ambiguous because the -Moitié at the end could mean it's Me-even-half or Myself-half. That crafty Mana. --Piroteknix 23:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moi-même-Moitié 

message: I don't think a page on Midi:Nette could have any information that's not already mentioned here; it's essentially Mana's private label. So I redirected it here. Besides, some of the info on that page was just flat-out wrong, like Kagrra being on M:N. o_O flowersofnight 23:43, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirected Midi:Nette here 

message: I reverted a change claiming that Mana's name is "Satou Manabu". There is no official or unofficial source claiming this as his name; it is merely a persistent rumor in the fanbase. flowersofnight (talk) 00:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's real name, Part XVIII 

message: I removed the "drag queen" category from this page. I asked an authority on the subject and this explanation sums it up pretty well:
A drag queen is a (usually) gay male who wears women's clothes for the sake of performing/hosting. They are not transgendered or trying to be real women though; in fact, a man who does not define himself as male cannot become a drag queen. This is because, rather than trying to be a convincing woman, as mana does, drag queens attempt to "cross over" womanhood and become something alien, grotesque, and comical. As one man put it, "You ever see real woman with lipliner up to her nostrils running around in a bikini?!" 
That aside, Mana doesn't consider himself a drag queen. Nuf said. 
Also I removed the "Japanese musical groups" category since Mana himself is not a group.
flowersofnight (talk) 17:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So, Mana would be consitered trangender then? Calicore 17:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Transgender" is a vague enough term that it's almost meaningless (see the Transgender article). I think we don't need to put a specific label on it. Mana's just a regular man who happens to wear female-style clothing some of the time. I'm going to remove the "transgender" category from the article as well. He's never given any indication that he considers himself anything other than simply a man. flowersofnight (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mana is not transgendered or a drag queen. Mana-sama does not believe that clothing or personal appearance should be indicative of gender or sexual predilection. A man wearing a dress is no more telling of their romantic attachments or gender identity than a woman wearing slacks is. Very Old School Goth (talk) 04:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana not a drag queen 

message: Should the article really say that he's reknowned for that? He doesn't crossdress anymore unless he's modelling clothes for Moi-Même-Moitié. --Berserk798 21:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  femininity and crossdressing... 

message: HE/she looks like a woman but you say she /he is a man.....
*Mana has never said anything about being a woman. He's always identified as a male despite the frilly dresses and feminine appearance. Looks can be decieving: see, androgyny. Calicore 06:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its a man baby!!!! 

message: Mana has been announced a Guest of Honor at Anime Expo 2006. link. I think this should be added somewhere in the article, this being his first visit to the United States. Calicore 06:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana at [[Anime Expo]] 

message: I removed the paragraph mentioning what his favorite colors and hobbies are. Not only are these things pretty unencyclopedic, but they're subject to change. Maybe we should mention his Italian horror films and curry cooking, but I think we can draw the line there. --Berserk798 05:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Favorites" 

message: I took out the mention of Mana's supposed first band "Ves.tearge". So far, no one has ever been able to produce a printed source that acknowledges the existence of that band. I'm not convinced it existed. I also took out the thing about Mana's previous claim to have gone to a music school. After all, Mana's definitely not afraid of taking liberties with the truth in interviews, and if he says conflicting things over the years, I think we should just go with the latest thing he's said. flowersofnight (talk) 23:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed some items

message: Can we please come to a consensus as to what photos are to be placed in the article, and then not change them? For a Wikipedia article to cycle through pictures the way Mana and Malice Mizer articles do is ridiculous. This isn't a fangirl's playground--we really just need one picture of him in EGL and one in EGA. Maybe a third of him in dix gear, but that's not even necessary. --Berserk798 02:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Images 

message: This article says that he plays guitar, synths and drums. Should it really be mentioned that he plays drums, since he never plays them on recordings and he only plays them publicly at fan events? Also, if we will include drums on the list, I think we need to add that he plays bass and accordion as well (which is almost a silly thing to do). Berserk798 22:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mana's instruments 

message: Just saw the recent addition of the very extensive discography, and... ouch. That's quite a chunk of text. Not that I don't agree it deserves a mention, but would it perhaps make more sense to provide links to relevant sections on the Malice Mizer and Moi dix Mois pages instead? Lithiumflower 23:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already removed it. Berserk798 22:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extensive discography 

message: Hey folks, it looks like someone vandelised this page.  Who do I contact to let them know?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NewHope (talk • contribs) 02:32, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:Yourself :) Just go ahead and fix anything like that as soon as you see it. If you can't edit the article yourself because it's partially locked, then alert an established editor that has a history with the article in question. Berserk798 04:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandelism 

message: A quick reminder to anyone new to Wikipedia: images are not allowed on Wikipedia unless they are in the public domain or fall under a fair use exemption. That means that magazine scans, photos found on websites, etc. are not accepted even though they may be used on many other sites across the Internet. Because of Wikipedia's rules, they will just end up getting deleted after a week or two, and the article will be left with a red link instead of a picture. Unless you have permission from the person who took the photo (and can prove it), don't bother uploading images of Mana (or people in general). flowersofnight (talk) 19:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I reverted a lot of overly-detailed info about Mana's upbringing that doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia article. I don't think we need to go into every fact Mana's ever mentioned about his early life here; this isn't supposed to be a fansite. flowersofnight (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed a lot of stuff

message: que tal como estan solo quiero es cribir  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.55.134.5 (talk) 06:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hola 

message: hola  solo quisiera dar a conocer que me encanta mana pero me gustaria que en esta paguina pusieran mas ilustraciones.yo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.55.134.5 (talk) 06:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hola 

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