Talk:Voice feminization

message: Term ... In terminology (the study of language terms), a "term" is a word, word pair, or word group, that is used in specific contexts for a specific meaning. ...
Method ...In science in general, method is a codified series of steps taken to complete a certain task or to reach a certain objective , see also algorithm, methodology. 
Is 'Voice Feminization' a term or a method or both?
If I said " ... the method of Voice Feminization is as follows..." it would work
If I said " ... the term Voice Feminization is used by ..." it would also work.  
There indeed are several methods used to aquire a female voice, but each of the methods has there own term applied to that method.  For instance to aid in the prosody used by a natal-female you could use 'baby talk' as your method.  Then I could say " ... the method of 'baby talk' is one of the methods of Voice Feminization ..." and it would be true. 
So is it a term or a method? or both?
VoiceOfOne 16:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The edits were not because of this question, but because the original edit said "Voice Feminization is a term usually used by transwomen ...". Obviously, this is nonsense, since not just transwomen use this word. Since there is also little reason to say who uses this word (because there is nothing notable there), that sentence needed some editing badly. I am sure, though, that there are better resolutions. Just make sure you don't say anything you actually don't want to say, as was probably the case with the first version. -- AlexR 16:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Naturally, I have reverted -- and the arguments for that are above. Any reason in particular you choose to ignore that? -- AlexR 17:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TERM vs METHOD - and the answer is? 

message: After looking at the small beginning here, I think that dividing up the article into different sections according to the discipline that actually performs the voice feminization. And some other sections to describe the process in general and does anybody have any other ideas on sections?  Myths'? husky female voices? etc...  Please let me know.
: Speech pathologists 
* Respiration - power source;
* Phonation   - sound source;
* Resonance - sound modifier;
* Articulation - speech modifier;
* Prosody - melodic aspects of speech;
: Pitch altering surgeries 
:: Feminization laryngoplasty 
:: Thyrohyoid approximation
:: Cricothyroid approximation
:: Laryngeal Reduction surgery
: Voice Coaches
: Self Help programs 
:: Little things that help make a voice feminine
=== No discussion after a time ===
Making changes to move around information in overview and divide it up into two overall topics of surgical and vocal training. FemVoice 03:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am thinking about dividing the article up into sections 

message: Making changes to move around information in overview and divide it up into two overall topics of surgical and vocal training. FemVoice 03:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No discussion after a time 

message: I, Czolgolz, recognize that while we will probably never reach an agreement, I find Alex's current revision an acceptable compromise, and promise to cease all editing, excepting future grammar and additions.
I further declare, that while I disagree with the use of the term 'cisgender,' I understand that it is a sensitive subject.  Like all subjects, no one, including myself, is an expert on all topics.
I formally declare that I consider transwomen to be women in every sense, and all my objections were due to semantics.
I call for us all to shake hands and move on to other, less controvertial debates, such as what is the one true religion.
Czolgolz 17:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Call for Armistice

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FemVoice 04:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current word count of article 

message: Before this article existed, I started an article on the same topic with the title "Voice therapy (trans)". I think the two articles should be merged as they focus on the same topic. However, I know this article has been edited by many people and subjected to great controversy, whereas only one other person has made a couple of minor changes to my article, and so I don't know that I should try to merge the pages myself. Well, feel free to discuss.  Andrea Parton 15:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge