Talk:White Pass

message: I whole-heartedly disagree with User:Qyd and his/her rating of "Low." Wikis' definition is as follows:
Subject is not particularly notable or significant even within the field of Alaska, and may have been included primarily to achieve comprehensive coverage of another topic.
This does not represent the history of the White Pass at all. Numerous books have been written on the White Pass by notable historians as it was the second most popular and used trails during Klondike Gold Rush as well as the reason the city of Skagway, Alaska was born. Can someone please change this importance level. A message to Qyd: Using Google would have easily shown you just how important the White Pass was, and still is. In the future please engage the most basic research before taking upon yourself in deciding the importance level of an article. Soapy (talk) 01:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you feel otherwise, just change the importance assessment. If you wish to be more convincing, improve the article so the importance becomes apparent. And, most important, don't take it personal. --Qyd (talk) 03:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Can't be high for WP Canada, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Assessment#Importance scale. Changed to Mid. --Qyd (talk) 15:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: May be high importance for Alaska but meets Low importance for WPCanada Importance scale: "The article is not required knowledge for a broad understanding of Canada, but may cover topics directly related to Canada." DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion about ratings

message: The article was interesting and the topic has so much history. I am very interested in the Klondike Gold Rush and the passes which had to be travelled. It was interesting how you went into detail about how the surveyor of the pass was sent out to the pass and his life afterward. I did feel there was slightly too much emphasis on the surveyor as compared to the rest of the pass’ history which could have been mentioned. 
There were several things which were mentioned that could have been elaborated on more as it had sparked interest. An example of this was the Dead Horse Trail. There was not any detail as to how the horses died and why, which is something you may wish to continue speaking of. There is a mention of the devastation the horses faced on this website:  http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/gold/trail.htm if you are interested. There are pictures and quotes about the atrocities surrounding these animals. This would make this part of the article a little more complete and answer some of the questions as to how the horses died. Something else worth exploring and explaining more would be the reasons why the Chilkoot Pass was so difficult to travel (such as the Golden Stairs), forcing the exploration of another route. To gather more information about the steps involved in the gold rush including quotes from people who travelled the passes and made the journey, I would also recommend http://tc.gov.yk.ca/archives/klondike/en/fever.html 
The North West Mounted Police also had a great amount of involvement you might also wish to mention as they greatly affected the travel and journey of the stampeders. The NWMP policed the stampeders on their supplies and what was required they take with them, as the NWMP would not allow them to continue if these requirements were not met. http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/gold/trail.htm is also a good website for information on this. A list of the required supplies could also be included. A reference for this could be: http://www.arcticwebsite.com/goldrushsupplies1898.html 
I liked how you also mentioned the White Pass and Yukon Route Railway, as it was something I had never heard about before then, but you could have gone into more detail instead of just having the related article hyperlink. It would have been nice to have some of the information right there. Even a brief summary of what it was about would have been sufficient. 
It was very interesting how you thought to include some of the criminal aspects of the journey and the pass, which may have been looked over in related articles. I now want to go and look up some of these people to find out more about their history. --Krcountrygirl (talk) 15:28, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I corrected the 1887 opening up of the White Pass since the Chilcoot Indian who guided Capt. Moore was not Skookum Jim Mason.  I agree there could be more detail about the trail and Skagway.   A lot of that history is very grim and unpleasant. Zen-in (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  White pass article