Talk:Bobby Seale

message: Er... Freakonomics in the Bibliography? He gets one tiny mention on page 183, in passing.
Question:
Didn't Bobby Seale become disenchanted with the (Afro American Association) AAA, and left the organization?  Wasn't he a keen advocate of Malcolm X's ideology, and didn't the forming of the Black Panther Organization derive - partially - from Malcolm's assasination, rather than him having been inspired from the AAA?  Could you please check your sources for this?  Thanks
Truth be told, I am unsure whether Seale became disenchanted with the AAA and left, but I am certain that Malcolm X's ideology influenced that of Seale and of the Panther Party as a whole, especially after his assassination. However, I believe that the BPP (Black Panther Party) derived out of all facets of leadership during the Civil Rights Movement (such as MLK or Stokley Carmichael) combined with the organizational skills he honed during his time with the AAA. While reading his novel, Seize The Time, the audience can witness Seale's organizational and facilitation skills at play during events, such as flipping the Red Book for a profit, organizing the 10 mandates for the Panthers and programs, or facilitating rallies, that he must have learned through the AAA. Similarly, the Panther Party's mission of providing for the community (e.g. Food program & Health Care Clinic) and teaching the youth (whether it be through the food program or providing jobs for the youths in the community) was grounded in Seale's objective within the AAA as the wiki states in Early life section. Also, Seale has stated that Panther Party gained over 2,000 members within 9 months after MLK's assassination; thus I believe while the BPP was definitely sparked by Malcolm X's assassination, it caught fire and became a nationwide movement after MLK's assassination. 128.223.223.126 (talk) 01:15, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: I know that the conviction of the bulk of the charges against the Chicago 7 were reversed on appeal, but am having difficulty locating info about what happened to Bobby Seale's case after it was severed from the rest. ONe source has a mistrial declared, but a 4 yr sentence for contempt.  Is this true? Was it upheld or reversed on appeal or did he serve time for contempt?  Tvoz 23:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chicago  8 conspiracy trial

message: A casual reader (me) is left wondering how Seale got from firebrand revolutionary to barbeque guru (not that I'm putting him down for this--everone gets older, everyone has to make a living-it's an interesting "second act"). Even if he did nothing in the late 1970s-1980s (was he in jail?), it would be interesting to know. 
Reverted malicious edit by user Buthead77
Anusien 04:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My recollection (for what that's worth) is that the barbecue cookbook was published (at least in part) to cover Seale's medical bills. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  To put it nicely, it's arguable how much Seale deserves the label "firebrand". Though he was there at the formation of the BPP, Newton and several others were far more instrumental in making it the force it became. Autobiographical writings by those such as Elaine Brown paint him as one who served his own needs at the time, rather than that of the Party.--168.250.62.225 (talk) 01:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Later Years?

message: This article is unworthy.   FAR too short.  124.197.1.39 07:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a thought -  why don't you do some research and help to expand the article.  Leaving a note that it's too short and moving on isn't all that helpful, is it?  thanksTvoz |talk 04:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: comment

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message: there must be an image somewhere of Bobby that we can use here? Kingturtle (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: Lever Bobby Seale idag? jeg har nemlig om De Sorte Panter som projekt og jeg kan ikke finde noget om ham;s  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.231.65.130 (talk) 10:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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message: Just bringing it to the attention of editors more experienced with wikimarkup than I that the addition of the "African American topics" template breaks the page, at least in its present location. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 14:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Article Layout (08/17/2010)

message: The Spartacus Educational website cited erroneously has him attending Oakland High School. All other biographies, including his own published autobiography, have him attending & graduating from Berkeley High School.-Chimino (talk) 01:32, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: High school

message: Mr. Seale has blue eyes, obviously he is a mix of races, what were the races of his mother and father, and what is his family background?  This article goes little into the family of this man.  I've done a little research but have found nothing myself. Thank you.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.81.85 (talk) 23:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Does his autobiography mention anything? I haven't read it for years. I don't remember him mentioning either of his parents being mixed-race, but keep in mind most African-Americans (and all Americans, for that matter) are a mixture of racial backgrounds for a variety of reasons.--Chimino (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Background of Seale and of his parents?

message: There have been allegations that Newton beat and sodomized Bobby Seale over a dispute and this caused Seale’s exodus from the Black Panther Party. From Hugh Pearson’s The Shadow of the Panther:
After arguing with Bobby Seale about a proposed movie that Newton wanted Bert Schneider to produce, Newton dramatically beat Seale with a bullwhip and sodomized him so violently that his anus had to be surgically repaired by a physician who was a party supporter. Seale left town, went into hiding, and wasn’t heard from for at least a year when he turned up in Philadelphia, never having anything to do with the party. 
Now, Seale denied that it happened, but his denial certainly opens up even more questions. From Kate Coleman and Paul Avery’s 1978 article in the New Times:
In 1974 Seale who was then the party’s chairman reportedly was beaten and had to be treated by a doctor for his injuries. By several accounts, Newton ordered his bodyguards to train their guns on Seale to ensure that he didn’t fight back while Newton administered the attack. After the attack, Seale left the Party and disappeared from public view, emerging only within the last year to publish a book. 
Reached by phone in Philadelphia where he now lives, Seale denies he was beaten.”Its not true” he says. “The police put out a lot of crap initially. I’ve even heard that off and on, but I don’t pay any attention to it. Whoever said that is lying”. But it was said by many who were not police, who were in a position to know – including someone who treated his injuries. “What injuries?” Seale screams into the phone. “I had no injuries whatsoever! I don’t give a damn who said it. Tell them I said they’re a flat black ass motherfucking liar, or a white-assed liar whoever the hell they are. 
Given the nature of this claim, how should it, or should it be, incorporated into this article. It certainly does shed light on the nature of the actors involved and explains why Seale left the Party.  ZHurlihee (talk) 19:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mind fleshing out these sources? I'm sure I could do it myself with Google, but the ISBN numbers for the books would be quite helpful. Otherwise, it reads fine to me.--Chimino (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "According to several accounts..." with citations does appear to be neutrally worded, but Seale's denial should be noted for balance. (Here is another source, too, for both sides: .) It would be even better if the claim could be traced to an eyewitness account of the alleged incident. Location (talk) 22:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. ZHurlihee (talk) 13:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

text:  The entire Avery and Coleman article. . ZHurlihee (talk) 16:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Newton and Seale

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message: I found the trivial reference to an HBO movie and the name of the actor that played Seale to be a disconcerting interruption to this biography. I suggest it be moved to a section References in Popular Culture or similar. Grunionspawn (talk) 12:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Concerning the quote from "One Less Oppressor" -- I was motivated to follow up on this claim, which I see pasted verbatim all over the place online. The "One Less Oppressor" article itself is not available online, but there is a quote/summary of it in the Beckley Post-Herald, 7/31/70 (clip here: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/20393471/beckley-post-herald/ ). It appears that "One Less Oppressor" deals with the death of police officer Bernard Bennett, not Fred Bennett. As the Post-Herald article was printed most of a year before Fred Bennett's death, we can reasonably conclude that the article it references does not address that event. This seems sufficient to remove the relevant sentence from the Bobby Seale article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.61.130.95 (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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message: Seale often mentions in interviews and lectures that, as an engineering student, he worked at Kaiser Aerospace and Electronics on NASA's Project Gemini program. Shouldn't that be mentioned in this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Work on NASA's [[Project Gemini]] program