Talk:Alien 3

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support: The superscript 3 is a stylization used for promotion and marketing. The title (which is pronounced "Alien Three," not "Alien Cubed") should be in plain English according to Wikipedia rules, without any stylizations. A move would eliminate the need for an automatic redirect when a user types "Alien 3" into the search box. May I also suggest the same for Se7en? --IllaZilla 05:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I have proposed the creation of a WikiProject to improve articles related to the Alien series, including this one. If you are interested in participating please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Alien and add your name to the list of interested editors. If enough people are interested in starting this project, then I will move forward with it. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Alien 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm watching the movie right now (the special edition, granted) and the alien comes out of a cow.  Is this just in the special edition of the movie, or am I drunk or something?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.89.52 (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. In the original, theatrically-released version of the film, the Alien gestates in and comes out of a dog. In the Special Edition that was later released on home video formats (ie. DVD), it gestates and comes out of an ox. You can learn more about the differences between the 2 versions of the film, and the reasons why they went with a dog in the theatrical version rather than an ox, by watching the special features and commentaries on your DVD. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  One second... 

message: Has any television or cable station purchased the broadcast rights to the 2003 Special Edition of Alien 3? AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that I'm aware of. Is this relevant to the article? Or are you just wondering? --IllaZilla (talk) 01:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast rights 

message: Is this the only film that plays with Fox's fanfare? — Kieff | Talk 23:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fox Fanfare 

message: 'Aaron picks up a large wrench and strikes Michael over the head with it, believing him to be an android' - what evidence do we have that he thought that Michael Bishop was an android? Wasn't it just because he came to a sudden realisation about the true nature of the Company?
Conversely, it seems to me that this Bishop probably was an android - having been bashed over the head sufficiently hard to dislocate his ear and the squamous temporal bone (as is clear from a couple of brief shots), he stands up and challenges Ripley - no human being could do that!! --Ndaisley (talk) 18:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with changing the wording in the article, but as for the rest, this isn't the place for theorizing. Bishop (Aliens) has had enough of that. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, thank you - had not spotted that article! --Ndaisley (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

text: In the DVD subtitles Aaron says "fucking android" as he hits Bishop.Archiewood (talk) 05:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Bishop was a synthetic... 

message: I'm not certain why there isn't a mention of this nomination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_MTV_Movie_Awards#Best_Action_Sequence Martinatime (talk) 22:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the mention to the article. Thanks for the heads-up! :) Erik (talk | contribs) 22:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards section - Mtv Movie Awards 1993 Nomination 

message: This article does not offer an explanation as to why there was an alien egg on the Sulaco during the opening credit sequence. Does anyone have a cited article that explains this? Or is this a plot inconsistency? The end of the previous film, ALIENS, does not offer any suggestion as to how this was possible as the Queen xenomorph did not have egg laying capability when she landed on the USS Sulaco. Perhaps this is a notable example of a plot inconsistency that should be included in the body of this article and is a further example of the incomplete script that was revised while principal photography was underway? 76.65.28.115 (talk) 10:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not the purpose of an encyclopedia article to explain perceived plot inconsistencies. If there are reliable sources that discuss this, then certainly we can cover it, but if there aren't then we cannot. (The basic answer is that there were eggs on the Sulaco because they needed to be there in order for this film to have an Alien in it). --IllaZilla (talk) 14:54, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Poor wording on my part: agreed... it is not Wikis responsibility to offer an "explanation." My apologies. The point I was trying to make is that some wiki articles about various books, films or TV series often point out inconsistencies of character or narrative between entries. In this case Alien3 is directly tied to Aliens and Alien: Resurrection from a story standpoint. However, the way Alien3 opened does not make much narrative sense. Agreed, it would have to be sourced and I'd be willing to dig around a bit, but not if people don't want it in the article and just revert it. I have seen too many examples of people making additions to articles (sometimes good work, sometimes bad work) only to have it deleted (sometimes for cause and sometimes not). That is why I raised the idea here first. 76.65.28.115 (talk) 21:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's likely that the special features on the DVD or Blu-ray versions of the film may give insight into this, ie. the director or writers may talk about how they came up with this plot device and how they perceive/intended it to follow from the preceding film. Those certainly would be sources we could cite. Beautiful Monsters by David McIntee would also be a good source to check. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:19, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps we can handle this issue by removing the first part of the "Plot" section which reads "Following the events in Aliens".  If we take that out people might realize that this movie has nothing to do with the last movie, which other than character's names seems to be the case.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.14.78.249 (talk) 19:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  What do you mean "nothing to do with the last movie?" It is the sequel it continues the same story that began with Alien.  It may not be the greatest movie, but the plots are still obviously connected. --Daniel 21:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  The biggest problems with A3 started - and wrecked the film - before the opening credits were over. Not only did nobody secure the ship before hypersleep, not only was there an egg aboard, not only were there either two facehuggers in it or one that was able to implant twice or a second egg we never see, not only did the facehugger hatch even though no host was near, not only was the ship unable to detect its unexpected movement, not only could it not contain a small fire (eg by venting the air to space) - those were minor problems compared to the fact that two of three key characters from A2 were simply killed gratuitously off (one killed by a safety strut FGS).Tirailleur (talk) 10:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egg on Sulaco 

message: Removed two atextual references to "Turk", reverted to the character Hicks. The article is an article about the film Alien 3 rather than the video game or the video game's addition to Alien chronology or history. In the editing section of the Plot section there are notes not to change "dog" to "ox" as the article is about the theatrical version of the film. This would also hold true to the Turk character, a character from the video game. --Jamaver (talk) 02:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hicks Vs. Turk 

message: There has been some discussion of the following insertion:
The events of both Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection will be ignored by the upcoming sequel to Aliens, which will be directed by Neill Blomkamp. 
:I believe this item needs discussion before it appears in the live article. Thoughts? HullIntegrity\ talk / 21:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment--my issue would be, as previously mentioned by Gothicfilm, that this passage states a certainty about the future ("will be ignored"): something an encyclopedia simply does not do. HullIntegrity\ talk / 21:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Sequel Commentary 

message: On reading the article, I found an inconsistency with regard to political ideology. At one point, the description of the script suggests "socialism", then later "Marxism" and finally "communism". The three political ideologies are markedly different from each other - is there a definitive source that suggests which of these three ideologies the scriptwriter(s) had been wanting to represent? --98.122.20.56 (talk) 20:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

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message: Alien 3 cannot possibly take place in the year 2179 because it explicitly takes place over 200 years after the eradication of cholera. It must be 2279 or later.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.13.107 (talk) 00:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No year is mentioned in the film, so we shouldn't list any year in the plot. Anyway when someone mentioned 200 years, they don't generally literally mean 200 years, more like an approximation.  Canterbury Tail talk 02:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year/Timeline 

message: Refs for a modern reassessment paragraph:
 The Guardian
 Game Rant
 Den of Geek
 Vox (website)
 Inverse (website)
Lankyant (talk) 18:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of those refs are already in the article—I guess you're organizing them for a new context. Wouldn't you just expand on the paragraph under "Critical response" about the Assembly Cut? 70.163.208.142 (talk) 04:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs for modern reassessment 

message: According to the article, this is how the movie begins:
"Following the events of Aliens, an egg hatches aboard the Colonial Marine spaceship Sulaco, releasing a facehugger." 
But we don't see the egg hatching. We don't see it releasing the facehugger. All we see is an already open egg and a facehugger that is already outside of the egg. This is just my opinion but I think the article should avoid describing events that are not shown in the movie (of course there are exceptions but I think it's not necessary in this case). Dornwald (talk) 11:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  We don't see the egg hatching