Talk:Hypercoaster

message: I question the reference to the characteristic of a hypercoaster to be non inverting.  Nowhere else have I heard the same description, especially in that there where be a labeling error for those that do invert (Sheikra, Moonsault Scramble, Son of Beast). This would land those coasters being concerned in a void rather than a specific height classification. (Hyde244 14:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just found something, the article is correction, per an encyclopedia. . But it is a confusing subject, considering SheiKra's height classification would be considered a hyper coaster. But I think that the term hypercoaster has come to be known as a ride with those certain characteristics (since their manufacturers label them that way). Possibly a 2nd table should be created with coasters that meet the height requirement but do not fall under the two other requirements. I don't fully understand it myself, but thats the way I understand it to be. (Coasterman1234 17:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Technically Son of Beast has just gained hypercoaster status with the removal of it's loop. I will try and work on a second table as well. (Coasterman1234 01:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I started on the second table and reworded some things but it still needs work, those are all the hypercoasters (meeting height requirements) I could find, as of today (Coasterman1234 03:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non Inverting? 

message: I can't see a hypercoaster being referred to anywhere as a "Megacoaster" since that term already refers to the wooden coasters in the Golden Age that topped 100 ft. It could be pretty confusing. Anyway if there's no reference for that I'm going to erase it. Gorman 05:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Megacoaster 

message: By definition, a hypercoaster must either be at least 200 feet tall, or feature an initial drop of at least 200 feet. Phantom's Revenge fails on both accounts.
:It is easily possible for a terrain coaster to have an initial drop of less than 200 feet and a second drop of more than 200 feet. Such a coaster would meet the qualification. Dusso Janladde 06:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  failure to meet qualifications 

message: The opening paragraph states that "...hypercoaster can mean one of two things" but then gives only one definition, albeit one with three subsections.67.154.254.115 (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "one of two things"

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message: There is a lot of original research floating around in this article, and I'm keen on removing it. One of the most glaring issues are the two lists. We don't have a secondary source that has tracked this, so unless someone knows of one, there's no way to consider these lists complete or accurate. Personal investigation in no way guarantees either. Furthermore, there is the burden of keeping it updated. Traffic is pretty low in this article as well, and I doubt new additions and old removals will be updated here as often as they should be. I propose removing both. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:06, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and combined the two lists, since a reliable source was never provided to explain why we should separate shuttle coasters. There's no reliable way to ensure this new list is complete, however, so perhaps a disclaimer of sorts should be added. --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: I propose merging Hyper Coaster (B&M model) into Hypercoaster. I think the content in the former article is coextensive with a lot of the content in the Hypercoaster article, and it would be beneficial to reincorporate the B&M-specific article into here.
GWR 2019 (talk) 08:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: •Support. You will see from my previous comments that I never thought a separate Hyper Coaster (B&M model) article should never have been created in the first place.—JlACEer (talk) 15:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

text: Support, I do also concur with the ideas listed. Content from the B&M article would be better suited in the general hypercoaster article. Adog (Talk・Cont) 18:11, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Weak support I would like to see how the B&M article contents would be incorporated into this article without giving them undue weight, as there would not be similar commentary for other hypercoaster manufacturers.  --McDoobAU93 13:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Support – There are multiple ways to do the merge, but I don't think B&M needs its own article at this time. Concerns of WP:UNDUE can be remedied by expanding coverage for the other manufacturers. Pretty sure there's plenty out there we can add to balance this article out after the merge. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:42, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Oppose given the undue weight argument alluded to above. Perhaps this could be avoided with the alternative target, Bolliger & Mabillard (the manufacturer of the product). Klbrain (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That alternative could give undue weight to the hyper coaster model on the B&M page. B&M produces nine different coaster models and hyper coaster is not even B&M's most prolific design.—JlACEer (talk) 21:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Support merge. I'm not really convinced of the argument that a B&M hyper is different than a hyper made by Intamin, Arrow Dynamics, or another company. Not only that, but the B&M Hyper article overlaps quite a bit with the main hypercoaster article - all of the coasters listed in Hyper Coaster (B&M model)#Installations are also listed in this article. Of the facts not already in the main hypercoaster article, these consist largely of trivia like . The only thing that is salvageable from the Hyper Coaster (B&M model) page might be the "Golden Ticket Awards" section, but even then, I'm not sure that we should put undue emphasis on B&M hypers winning GTAs. The undue weight concern could be solved by simply redirecting the B&M Hyper article to the hypercoaster article and expanding coverage about non-B&M hypers winning GTAs. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

text: Klbrain (talk) 11:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal