Talk:Mingo

message: Both articles have much valuable information. I recommend some minor changes:
P 1. line 5 - ... Conestoga (aka Susquehannock) of the Susquehanna River Valley ...
P 2. line 1 - ... some Cayuga people moved to the Ohio Valley region, where the Six Nations granted them land.
A delegation from the Seneca-Cayuga people of Oklahoma visited the Grand Council at Onondaga in New York about three decades ago. The chiefs I spoke to said that the language the delegates spoke was Cayuga. I have not visited the Seneca-Cayuga yet to verify all of the information.
[Wabizje] 16 April 2010 ----  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wabizje (talk • contribs) 21:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: These two articles seem to discuss the same Native American tribe. Unless evidence is provided to the contrary, the two articles should be merged. Neelix (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Maryland Encyclopedia Online, the Messawomeck were a distinct historic Iroquoian tribe in western Maryland. They need a separate article, not just a redirect here.--Parkwells (talk) 12:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would love to see an article on Massawomeck too.  There are a number of theories who they were.  The one that says it was a Powhatan name for the Erie ie. "Black Minqua" is starting to look the most credible to me, but that's just my opinion.  There's also other sourced opinions we could include.  Primary sources are from pre-1650 Virginia, and would include John Smith, Henry Fleet, and Spelman, etc. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There should be a separate article on the Massawomaeck..no one really know who they were so at the very least people looking for information on them should not be automatically redirected here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.242.102.242 (talk) 18:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Per this and the discussion at Logan, I added an accuracy tag. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 18:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Onniasontke were not the Mingo and I agree the articles should not be merged; I think the tag should be removed now. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 02:15, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Honniasont]] 

message: I would suggest that the language section here be removed, possibly to the "Honniasont" page, as it appears to be discussing the language of that group, and not the people generally known during the 18th century as "Mingo".  As stated above, and in the "History" section of the Mingo Wiki page, the historic, Ohio Country Mingo, were of diverse Iroquois cultural background.  They had their own distinct languages, not a unified tongue.  Mingo who were Seneca, likely spoke Seneca.  Mingo who were Cayuga, Cayuga, etc...   The Mingo Language entry paints a completely different, and innacurate, picture if it is discussing Mingo in general, and not the specific alleged descendants of one group of people descended from the earlier "Black Mingo".  If anyone has proof that Logan, The White Mingo, or any other historic figure identified as a "Mingo" spoke an actual "Mingo" language, as opposed to their own known mother tongues, I would love to see it.  Once removed, a more historically accurate entry can be made to replace it.
TruthBastion (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: I believe most of the problems with "Mingo" have been fixed.  The article still needs some clean up work.  Should the disputed warning be removed? 
TruthBastion (talk) 01:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  In"Friday 14.—Set out W 5 M to Muskingum a Town of the Wyendotts. The Land upon Elk's Eye Creek is in general very broken, the Bottoms narrow. The  Wyendotts or little Mingoes  are divided between the French and English, one-half of them adhere to the first, and the other half are firmly attached to the latter. The Town of Muskingum Consists of about one hundred Families. When We came within Sight of the Town, We perceived English Colours hoisted on the King's House, and at George Croghan's; upon enquiring the Reason I was informed that the French had lately taken several English Traders, and that Mr Croghan had ordered all the White Men to come into this Town, and had sent Expresses to the Traders of the lower Towns, and among the Pickweylinees; and the Indians had sent to their People to come to Council about it. Saturday 15 & Sunday 16.—Nothing remarkable happened." CHRISTOPHER GIST'S JOURNALS, First Journal, October, 31, 1750 to May 19, 1751. FOR THE HONORABLE ROBERT DINWIDDIE ESQUIRE, GOVERNOR & COMMANDER OF VIRGINIA.
I read a legal court case during the previous reply of people from a reservation in Oklahoma legal concerns. This reading "spooked me" as this was a case where the Cayuga/Seneca of Oklahoma who were concerned in reclaiming eastern lands.  That transcript's terminology of the court's finding very north-east of our location consistantly referred to these as Mingo. No doubt, this is modern termonology used then within the legal courts of a greater distance from our region. I have no intentions of contempt to any modern Native American nationality politics nor any government's court, with great respect to them.  As I mentioned, these matters are really none of my business and shall let it rest. Most respectfully yours, Conaughy (talk) 16:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed? 

message: Substituted at 00:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Ohio History Central notes "The Seneca-Cayuga, also referred to as the Ohio Seneca or Ohio Cayuga, is an American Indian Tribe that settled in the Sandusky and Cayuga River regions of northeastern Ohio in the 1740s and 50s. The Seneca-Cayuga people were historically referred to by non-natives as the “Mingo,” a derogatory term that is considered offensive today."
Given that "Mingo" is "a derogatory term that is considered offensive today," should a page entitled "Mingo" just be about the settlers historically using this term, mainly as a derogatory term, and move the content about the Native peoples to a page entitled Seneca-Cayuga? 
How is this kind of thing handled on Wikipedia to avoid unnecessarily using derogatory terms? 
Povipin (talk) 15:15, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derogatory term 

message: "The people who became known as Mingo migrated to the Ohio Country ALONG THE RIVER in the mid-eighteenth century, part of a movement of various Native American tribes away from European pressures to a region that had been sparsely populated for decades but controlled as a hunting ground by the Iroquois League of the Five Nations." 69.54.55.158 (talk) 17:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What river?