Talk:Downtempo

message: The first sentence states that:
Downtempo is also known as triphop,
*but* is is not trip hop.
That left me confused.
2001:4C80:40:539:7178:9C1C:9712:4152 (talk) 15:58, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very first sentence makes a confusing comparison (less *"earthy" sound than trip hop*) 

message: Are these two genres really distinct or is it just some sort of a question of opinion? Sure, the article argues that they are distinct (if overlapping), but doesn't explain the difference in any way. Someone please do that. --Tropylium 17:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences with chill out

message: This article is desperate for an organized list of downtempo artists, filled with internal links and such--separate from the History section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.93.168 (talk) 03:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  examples? 

message: Two articles on the exact same subject, just listed under alias names. Believe that "Downtempo" would be the correct terminology to use since it is identified as an actual genre in the music world. TTTommy111 (talk) 04:39, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose.  I don't support a merge because chill-out music is an umbrella term which includes not just downtempo but other genres such as ambient or acoustic. - Shiftchange (talk) 07:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

text: Support – This is basically an AKA for downtempo. Also, ambient music has been around for far longer than the early 1990s, when chill-out was developed. Lachlan Foley (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: But technically it isn't at all.  This isn't a dictionary, therefore common use of "chill-out music" as a description of downtempo must be discounted.  The general term chill-out includes music with no percussion, where-as downtempo always has a measurable tempo and other specific characteristics. - Shiftchange (talk) 23:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Support The distinction is not clear in the literature.--SabreBD (talk) 09:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

text: Weak oppose Aria1561 (talk) 21:57, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Oppose None of the sources say the terms are synonymous.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 17:41, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Support Downtempo and chill out music basically mean the same thing. Wasabi,the,one (talk) 20:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Comment - It's a tricky one. Based on what I'm seeing in the sources, my suggestion is to rename and rework Chill-out music into an article about chill-out rooms, for which the "genre" is named. The extent to which it is a genre is unclear. Slate says "The truth is, chillout is less a musical genre than an ideal—a vague state of New Age serenity" and goes on to say "Chillout really is just the latest brand name for easy listening, a genre that gets reinvented every decade or so." Other sources, like the Washington Post treat it as synonymous with downtempo. It seems it is a genre of other genres, or music brought together contextually rather than through clearly delineated musical qualities. I've seen some other sources say it's another term for downtempo, and others say e.g. "primarily downtempo" or name downtempo along with a few others as the sort of music that fits into the feeling of chillout music. Making the article about the phenomenon of the room that has a particular musical feeling to it, that some people have turned into a quasi-genre, seems to me the best way to draw a line. A merge made sense at first to me, but the overlap doesn't seem perfect, and I see the possibility for separate subjects. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:35, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Oppose per above comment. Aleccat 00:07, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given weak consensus not to merge; or at least, no consensus for the merge and a stale proposal. Klbrain (talk) 02:18, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Chill-out music]]