Talk:Big Game (American football)

message: The "Cal Bonfire Rally" section should be removed or Stanford Big Game traditions should be included as well. This could form a "Traditions" section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.100.85 (talk) 05:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not for that idea.  The "Big Game" and even "the Play" are things that stand as important traditions in all of college football (I would also include "The Game" between Harvard-Yale and "Army-Navy") --and, as purely a sports fan, I hate both those schools (go Trojans!) Bobak 17:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: A while ago I started working on a timeline for this article, but I sort of forgot about it and left it sitting on my user page. I just remembered it though and though I should make a note of it here so that others can use/expand on it. It can be found on: User:Falcorian/timeline. Pleaes feel free to edit it there, copy it to a subpage here, or whatever. --Falcorian (talk) 16:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: I just noticed that the "Santa Clara Broncos" navbox is included in this article. (It used to be the Broncos football navbox, but that just got changed because the game was rugby.) I think that's inappropriate; this article is about Big Game which has always been the Cal-Stanford game. Based on the article Santa Clara Broncos, they seem to be claiming the 1916 rugby game between Stanford and Santa Clara as a version of Big Game, because Cal and Stanford did not play each other in the years 1915-1918. I think that's a real stretch, and it doesn't seem to be included in official records of Big Game. IMO the Santa Clara Broncos navbox should be deleted from the article, but I'd like to see other people's opinions. --MelanieN (talk) 14:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it should not be included. Technically, those games were called the "Big Game" but I don't think any Big Game scholars (heh) consider it the same thing. --Esprqii (talk) 21:59, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for removing it. I was waiting to see if the person who modified it would chime in here, but I guess either they are AFC or they don't have an opinion. --MelanieN (talk) 17:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just about to mention that I did it...if someone still objects we can always put it back. --Esprqii (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

text: I really don’t have a dog in this fight, but it looks like from 1915-1917 Stanford billed their “Big Game” (’cause you can’t not have a Big Game, right????) the matchup between them and Santa Clara on the pitch. Whether or not that merits the inclusion of a navbox is debatable, but it’s notable and, really, it takes up so little room you didn’t notice it; I think it’s trivial and hurts nothing to have it. —Wiki Wikardo 04:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is really about the rivalry between Stanford and Cal that happens to be called "The Big Game"--I don't think the Santa Clara games are the same thing even though they had the same name. The scores are not listed for those games and I think it's better to limit this article to the two teams that have the long tradition that has continued (you'd also have to include the Cal-Washington "Big Game" scores from that time.) Seems like a separate article about the Santa Clara-Stanford rivalry should include the 1915-17 games. --Esprqii (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for joining the conversation, Wiki - and for inadvertently calling this box to our attention! I agree with Esprqii. The scope of this article is defined in the first sentence: "The Big Game is an American college football rivalry game played by the California Golden Bears football team of the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford Cardinal football team of Stanford University." It does not even mention the Santa Clara game(s) anywhere, because this article is about the Cal-Stanford rivalry. A sentence could be added, noting that the Stanford-Santa Clara rugby games and Stanford-Washington football games for those years were referred to as Big Game, but I think the navbox is inappropriate.  --MelanieN (talk) 15:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to note that the Santa Clara-Stanford and Cal-Washington "Big Games" are already noted in this article (third paragraph under Series History). --Esprqii (talk) 17:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I stand corrected. In that case I am happy with the article as is. --MelanieN (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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message: I think the traditions are an important part of "the big game". It makes sense for a reader to get a complete sense of what is the big game, before moving out to finding out about the highlights of this tradition. Rybkovich (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved pre game traditions section to above memorable games. 

message: I propose that we change the current big game picture to 
this  It is a picture of the actual bonfire and the amphitheater. If we agree I will upload it, it has an allowable creative commons license. Rybkovich (talk) 21:25, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is no response, so I will go ahead and swap the pics. Rybkovich (talk) 23:34, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big game bonfire pic 

message: Right now the article states that the term was first used in 1900. Yes the title of the 1900 issue of the San Jose Evening refers to the game as Big Game. However in For the Blue and Gold a 1901 novel, that describes life at the UC sometime in the 1890s (see quote "on that Thanks Giving Day 189-" p. 92), the term is regularly used (See pages 80, 92, 93...) Which would indicate that the term was not "first used in 1900" as stated in the article. I suggest we take that out and put in that the term was already used by 1900. The book - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t5cc0vf5z&view=1up&seq=2 Rybkovich (talk) 01:31, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a source that the term was used before 1900. See the cite. Rybkovich (talk) 18:26, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the term "Big Game" 

message: To start the section Series History, it should be “The Big Game”, not just “Big Game” 2601:644:8F01:AA20:A463:20A0:E6D1:9831 (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that you added "The" to the section already. Let's discuss it here. I have heard it both ways, but probably more without "the" than with, as in "who are you going to Big Game with?" or "Big Game is in Berkeley this year". And the college celebrations mostly omit "the": "Big Game Gaieties", "Big Game Week", etc. "The" is mainly used to talk about a specific game, as in "the 1988 Big Game". Overall I believe it should be called "Big Game", not "the Big Game". -- MelanieN (talk) 03:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Since your addition of "The" changed longstanding content, it needs consensus. I am going to revert it while we discuss. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Start of section Series History 

message: On the Cal website, they are advertising an “Axe Pack”, with tickets to all home events against Stanford this year. Along with it was a logo for this year’s game. Should it be on this page? 2601:644:8F01:AA20:A463:20A0:E6D1:9831 (talk) 03:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt if we can use it. The logo is almost certainly copyrighted. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  125th Big Game Logo