Talk:Fallingwater

message: I switched the placement of the image captioned "Fallingwater" (Image:FallingwaterWright.jpg) and the image captioned, "The cantilevers at Fallingwater" (Image:FallingwaterCantilever570320cv.jpg). I felt the cantilever picture was more appropriate in the section discussing Fallingwater's structural integrity, while the postcard-like picture of the house as a whole was more appropriate in the introductory section with general information. --Puddingpie 03:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Walter Burley Griffin (1876-1937) left FLLW's office in 1906.  He had nothing whatever to do with the design of Fallingwater. There is no reason to bring up WBG's name in association with a project that began 30 years after he ended his association with Wright.
I have reverted some edits by 68.250.254.179, who changed several instances of the name Frank Lloyd Wright to Walter Burley Griffin in this article. 
Architecture is always a collaborative effort, and there are many people involved in the design of a house such as the Kauffman house. However, the convention (whether one disagrees with it or not) is usually to attribute a design to the principal of a design firm, or to the name of the firm. I have little doubt that Griffin was involved in the design of Fallingwater, and may in fact have done most of the work, but the fact remains that he was at the time working for Wright. Gsd97jks 20:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walter Burley Griffin 

message: Is it appropriate to list the (single) link for "Nearby Accomodations" to a specific business (the Four Seasons Guest Farm)? Perhaps a link to some agency or organization listing several locations would be better. Ieverhart 08:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. In addition, a link like that really would be more appropriate in Wikitravel, not Wikipedia. Commercial link removed. Gsd97jks 20:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial 

message: Is there any truth to the story that some of the building's structural problems were caused by construction workers who went against Wright's instructions and added more concrete? Rampart 23:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I CANNOT READ. Rampart 00:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is wrong. The contractor actually added reinforcement to the under-designed cantilevers. MARussellPESE 15:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about construction 

message: This section needs to be revisited. The rehabilitation is complete. There are some misplaced comments on its style. The comments on the materials being experimental and flimsy are not true. Reinforced concrete had been around for nearly 100 years by the time this was built. The assertion that the contractor neglected to camber for expected deflections is patent nonsense. The contractor actually added reinforcing during construction over Wright's objections. The Structure magazine article is the best available on the forensic engineering and repair. Bottom-line: The building design was rushed and the cantilevers were woefully under-designed. I'll be revisiting this section as time permits to correct it. MARussellPESE 16:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. MARussellPESE 18:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I am the Web Developer for the company that publishes STRUCTURE magazine. We have noticed this discussion and are subsequently working on making an online version of the 2001 article. I will update this (Wikipedia) article when we have the STRUCTURE article available. --Nic.stage 16:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We've added the article to our site. (See below) --Nic.stage 13:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Structural problems

message: In response to this Wikipedia article, STRUCTURE magazine staff have prepared the August, 2001 article "Repair and Retrofit: Is Falling Water Falling Down?" (Authors Robert Stilman, P.E., and John Matteo, P.E.) for online viewing.  We've added a link to our magazine's article in the "External Links" section of this Wikipedia article.  We hope this helps!
Where is the link?Emgeeo (talk) 12:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New information resource 

message: I moved the following paragraph here from the article:
Peter Blume (1906 - 1992), known for the paintings South of Scranton and Eternal City, was commissioned in 1939 by the Kaufmann family to create a painting of Fallingwater.  The result was a year-long endeavor which resulted in a 10 x 14 oil, essentially a miniature, with which the Kaufmanns were quite pleased.  The painting shows Mrs. Kaufmann fishing, the family dachshunds, and guests on the upper deck.  It was last known to be in a private collection.  The size of the painting was required by the fact that there was only one place suitable to hang the painting - the dining room.  Blume felt the obligation almost drove him out of his mind.  The Kaufmanns would later commission Blume to create The Rock (1944-48) which contains a Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired building in the left background and the same type stone as that used in the construction of Fallingwater along with several Kaufmann family mementoes. (Trapp 1987)
It seems to be an insignificant story, suitable only for a treatment of the subject matter that is book length, and doesn't fit in article. What do other people think? -DoctorW 17:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this should come out. It's almost entirely tangential to Fallingwater. And connection to Peter Blume seems out of place. MARussellPESE 02:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Blume painting 

message: Is it really that important that a few celebrities have visited the house? Who cares? In a long term view isn't the house itself and the work itself far more notable than that it was used as a birthday venue or that some actors are rather fond it? It's just a bit obvious. We don't look at the statue of liberty and say, 'oh well it's nice looking but see a list of all these people who've been to it - THAT must make it important'. Thoughts removing or at least paring down the (already small) section? P toolan 12:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: frankly, i frequently find myself remarking "if it's good enough for kirk douglas, it's good enough for me."  i wish the celebrities section hadn't been removed.  was kirk douglas on the list, or not?--132.61.176.6 19:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture 

message: The majority of the introduction seems to be about the geography of the location of the house.  It should probably talk more about the architecture, because that's what people want to know about the house.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.133.140.13 (talk) 09:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it - it didn't belong, and frankly there's no mystery to it. Mindmatrix 13:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  revise intorduction 

message: Can someone tell me what the difference is between these two sections? They both list books about Fallingwater, which may or may not be duplicated in the citations. Is there some reason they should not be combined under a single title, and anything that is already used as a citation removed? Don Lammers (talk) 15:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography vs. Further Reading 

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message: The design section uses lots of biased phrasing, it definitely needs editing to meet NPOV. Not sure how to fix it myself, so I thought I’d put it here for if anyone else feels up for the task. Eatingbugs (talk) 18:32, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Design” section