Talk:First Jewish–Roman War

message: Ben-Yehuda does not challenge Josephus' account of a mass suicide by the besieged on Masada.  Rather, he refutes, by reference to Josephus, the modern mythologising that casts those besieged, and their group suicide, as heroic. Josephus, the "Masada myth" that Ben-Yehuda criticises, and Ben-Yehuda himself fully agree that the suicides took place.
So I have taken out the "this view has been challenged".  I left the reference in, though, because it applies even so.
Lonewolf BC 20:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supposed challenge to Josephus about Masada 

message: If I was a Roman I would consider "Jewish success" to be biased, non-neutral, racist, bigoted. Just like 99% of WP. Happy holiday, MF's. Fourtildas (talk) 06:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is "Roman losses" any better, colleague? ←Humus sapiens ну? 07:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish success, the Fall 

message: In addition to Antiquities, which is not very relevant, and Jewish War, Josephus wrote his "Autobiography" which is directly relevant and details fighting in the Galilee. This can be found also in the article on Josephus - at least that should be consulted! [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] (talk) 00:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Second Temple Destroyed.jpg

message: Per WP:ERA, the use of CE vs AD as abbreviations after dates should not be changed without consensus. Both are equally valid, and the version already in use on an article takes precedence unless there is broad consensus to change. Recent edits that changed the abbreviations in this article from CE to AD were therefore reverted. IF there is a wish to change, then it must be discussed and an agreement reached between interested editors before this can proceed. Triona (talk) 10:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Should remain CE/BCE.Greyshark09 (talk) 21:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Should revert to and standardize on BC/AD in English language versions. 173.71.10.232 (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: BC/AD is valid only for Christian related articles, the rest is made per editor agreement, which in this case is CE/BCE.Greyshark09 (talk) 17:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  AD vs CE edits. 

message: It is true that Bar Giora is often considered a Zealot. However in fact, he was leading a faction of his own, completely unrelated to the Zealot factions of northern revolt. Bar Giora's faction is often named "peasantry faction", and its role during the revolt was complicated. Initially Bar-Giora fought together with the main Judean government (Matityahu and Ben-Gurion), but upon defeat of Syrian army, he was not given an official position. He then turned a renegade bandit, leading his comrades to pillage the country-side in Hebron area. In the year 68, however, with the civil war in Jerusalem turning in favor of the Zealots, Bar-Giora was called by surviving elements of the Judean government, and succeeded to take much of the city from the Zealots. From then on, he functioned as one of the leaders of the Judean government and presented a strong counter-force to John's and Eleazar's factions. Further, upon the fall of Jerusalem, unlike John, who was sold into slavery, Bar-Giora was executed as "Jewish leader", recognizing his official role in Judean rebel government.GreyShark (dibra) 17:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Bar Giora faction

message: 205.126.85.0 (talk) 21:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undid two acts of vandilism 

message: Hello editors of this wiki article, I will be making changes to the "outbreak of the rebellion," adding more descriptions of the events that took place and people named such as Eliezar ben Hanania. I will also be adding events and views that motivated the Jews to revolt against the Romans. I will be using the Article, "Roman Domination," by Shaye J.D. Cohen as a secondary source. Please feel free to comment on my changes on this talk page or on my talk page. KaiArwas (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Change in Outbreak of Rebellion

message: The article is problematic because it is laden with grammar mistakes, missing citations, incorrect and missing information. The secondary source from our course that I plan to use to solve some of the problems is Lawrence Schiffman’s From Text to Tradition, Ch 9: “Revolt and Restoration.” I plan on using the secondary source as a point of comparison to find inconsistencies, fallacies, and mistakes and correct the Wikipedia article to be more truthful, well-rounded, and detailed in its portrayal of the event. I will first correct the mechanical issues within the Wikipedia article. For example, the sentence: “Josephus claims that 1,100,000 people were killed during the siege, a sizeable portion of these were at Jewish hands and due to illnesses brought about by hunger” is a run-on sentence and should have a period between “siege” and “a sizeable portion” or a conjunction to connect those phrases. This wikipedia article also fails to discuss the specs of how Jews adapted to Roman influence, so I plan to add more background on Jewish life under Roman rule. Jimmy19951 (talk) 04:13, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: the article is problematic

message: "the Menorah and the Table of the Bread of God's Presence, which had previously only ever been seen by the High Priest of the Temple"
This is an error. The Menorah and the Table of the Bread of God's Presence were also seen by the other priests, not only the High Priest.
--ThePro (talk) 14:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Menorah and the Table of the Bread 

message: The Legio IIII Scythica is a common way of Writing the number of this legion in academic sources, and in the epigraphic records we have seems to be how the legion numbered itself. IV maybe the more common version of the number in general use, but in this context it is not necessary to change.Pipsally (talk) 08:12, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  IV/ IIII 

message: Is 736 - 776 a different calendar or just the wrong date for the siege?
131.152.225.37 (talk) 07:07, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Roman campaign ended with their success at the [[siege of Masada]] in 736–776.