Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force/Archive 1

message: The open tasks box takes up the majoroty of my screen, leaving only a small room for text which looks untidy. --bjwebb 14:50, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Blimy. What resolution are you on? It takes up around 20% of my screen width. (I ask so that we know what kind of res we should work to accommodate)--drak2 18:53, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm on 800*600 (IE 6, Windows ME). I didn't quite mean the majority of the screen, more the majority of the text area. --bjwebb 20:20, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've squashed it a bit, I dont see that it can go much smaller without a total re-design.--drak2 09:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks OK now. --bjwebb 14:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Woot!--drak2 15:22, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Open Tasks Box 

message: What do people think the standard opening line to articles should be? I say this because there are a load of different ways people are doing it, and it would be best, I think, to have a standard people can work from. I propose the following, (but it's just an idea, I'd love to hear any others people have):
For characters:
*Ginevra "Ginny" Molly Weasley (born August 11, 1981) is a fictional character in the Harry Potter series.
For other things:
*The Nimbus 2000 is fictional flying broomstick in the Harry Potter series.
Obviously these can be altered to suit individual articles (see Harry Potter (character)), but I feel it would be good to have a standard.
Thoughts? --drak2 22:03, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I like it a lot. Though I've been searching some character pages and I've seen many of them start that way. Anyway, it's a good opening line option, given we can change a little so it fits exactly to each character! :) Jotomicron | (talk, email) 08:59, 22 June 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Line 

message: Could any of the articles in this WikiProject be made into a featured article? Hermione1980 17:06, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, why not? They are just like any other WIkipedia article. If you don't know fully about the standards that an article has to meet to be featured then they can be found here. -Hoekenheef 17:18, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I may have misunderstood you. Are you basically proposing that we as a "Project Group" need to really start to conform the articles to a higher standard? -Hoekenheef 17:27, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no, no, you understood me the first time. What I meant was, can we improve one particular article in this project to "Featured Article" status — the group collaborating to make it better? (Of course, improving all the articles is a goal…but that wasn't what I was talking about this time…) I'm sorry if I'm a bit incoherent — sleep is a precious commodity, and I didn't get much of it last night. We could do more than one, of course, just do them one at a time. Thoughts, anyone? Hermione1980 18:37, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: I had just been thinking this this week, go you for using your voice...rather than being like me and not...So yeah, great idea. It needs to be a fairly lengthy article, but not an obvious one, like Harry Potter or Hogwarts, I think. Snape's looking quite good, as it is of a reasonable length and has a few pretty images. Although we could do something more adventurous, like Hogwarts Houses. Anyone else got any ideas?--drak2 19:16, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lupin's page seems to be another good one. We could possibly try doing a creature, no? Eh, retract that (I'm writing this as I look over the articles). Thestral looks all right, but it is not great. Neville? Luna's page is good, but it needs some artwork or some image. That's all that's hitting me right now. I would suggest Gred and Forge but it's a tad short. -Hoekenheef 20:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ginny Weasley! :) My life would be complete...well not complete, but it would be cool if that became a featured topic. It's a lengthy article...maybe too lengthy, and could do with some more pretty pictures I suppose. Other than that, yeah, Lupin would be a cool one.--drak2 17:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Geez! Ginny's page is like a freakin' essay! That might be a good one. Needs another pic or two. -Hoekenheef 19:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured article? 

message: This was a project I started about a month before WikiProject Harry Potter was created (thank you Evilphoenix). My project was not as widespread as this project in the sense that my project was only about images and no thing else. About a day or two after this project was created I unofficially merged my project with this one. The reason that I bring this up is because I created a standard to which the images should conform. I believe that they are a standard which should be followed still. The standards are posted below. P.S. If someone wants to merge these with the WikiPriject Harry Potter main page please go ahead.
"The members of this project will be working to monitor and add images to any HP article on Wikipedia needing a image or images.
As the movie series of HP continues members will add new headshots of each character to their respective infoboxes. All images used will (if possible) be of a higher resolution, and no noticeably pixelated images will be used. If no movie photo is available then a peice of artwork that is of high quality (use your own judgement).
If a photo that is all ready on the page does not clearly show the character then it will be replaced and moved to a different part of the article. Do not remove an image from the page unless it is completely unrelated image."
That's about it. To view the original project info see my user page. -Hoekenheef 21:24, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry Potter Article Images Project 

message: Is there a way we can trace all articles on our WikiProject other than search? I though, perhaps a category with all the articles. Jotomicron | talk 10:05, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a full list I think, but contains user pages that link to the project too--drak2 19:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Trace Harry Potter articles

message: Is there a reason why the HP-project was removed from Lord Voldemort?  Just wondering. --Lord Voldemort 16:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed from the article page because it should only be placed on talk pages. I have not removed the version on the talk pages --drak2 17:01, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks drak2... You could prove to be useful down the line. I had thought I remembered seeing the template on the actual article page, but must have been mistaken. I would apologize, but then again, when was the last time you knew an Evil Lord to be sorry?  --Lord Voldemort 18:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: lol. You may have seen it on some other pages, as it was on some other pages, but I've deleted the tag from them too now --drak2 19:06, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa, whoa, whoa... picky picky about the name there. I didn't realize I was in the presence of the next e e cummings. --Lord Voldemort 15:37, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol. Yeah I was bored, sorry. e e cummings?--drak2 16:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of <nowiki>{{HP-project}}</nowiki> 

message: I noticed people adding information to the character articles from Jo's notebook in the old TV special, mostly blood purity and characters who haven't appeared in the books yet. I was wondering what folks here thought about that. My approach has always been to clarify that that kind of info is unconfirmed in the actual books, for instance in my revision of the Hannah Abbott article. I do that because we've already seen several cases of information in that notebook changing before it makes it into the series itself, i.e. "Trevor" Boot becoming Terry Boot, Michael Corner and Anthony Goldstein both being re-sorted from Hufflepuff to Ravenclaw, and so on. I wondered if we should think about adopting a uniform standard for how we use/reference/disclaimer that information (or any other similarly unconfirmed information, like first names from trading cards) in the Wiki articles, or whether it should even be used at all. What does everyone think?--Zequist 01:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. I think using the information is fine, just as long as you say its not from the actual books. --bjwebb 14:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Canon Character Information 

message: This image has been on this article for forever, but an anon has recently come in and replaced it with this image, which I think is a copyvio because it's got a watermark and no image copyright tag. I reverted it once and s/he came right back and put it back in. Which image should we use? Hermione1980 17:39, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. I'd use the original one. --drak2 23:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The same here. Revert to original picture. --Jotomicron | talk 20:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All right, I've reverted again. Now, what's the procedure for dealing with copyvio images? Hermione1980 21:00, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You could refer to Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Anyway, I've proceeded acording to the policy and have posted the image to deletion. --Jotomicron | talk 22:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure how to list an image on the copyright problems page. I may have been here for three and a half months, but I can still act like a clueless newbie sometimes. Hermione1980 22:10, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (video game)]] picture problem 

message: Hi kids. I'm currently working on splitting the Magic in Harry Potter article into two - that one, detailing magic, and one on the wizarding world. I've been trying to get around to this for months now, and during that time the former article has gotten a lot less cluttered, but much of its content is still about the setting instead of the magic and there's no good central place for information about the society. I'd have completed it on this sitting, but I'm being chased off the computer right now, so at the moment the work-in-progress is only just starting and at User:Kizor/Wizarding world... the plan is to get the rest done on Thursday (UTC), adding a lot of stuff that wouldn't fit to the magic article (like wizards' lifespans), and making the necessary changes to the magic article and links on other pages. If you have objections, please say them now. And if someone knows of a better place to stick this notice, please move it there.. --Kizor 21:42, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Like your idea very much. We should link Magic in Harry Potter into this new article, improve it (perhaps we should remove the Religion topic, cause we have almost nothing to add, perhaps only they celebrate Christmas and Easter as Christians). And furthermore, I think the new article could be named Wizarding world in Harry Potter, just to give a similar title to both articles. --Jotomicron | talk 10:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much for the support and feedback. Working on this now, and with a rather better command of the language. I'll have to see about the section, but I think the new article should be just called "wizarding world"; The magic article was given its name as disambiguation, which isn't an issue for this one. --Kizor 14:25, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I think it is. Imagine the hundreds of wizard worlds already created or that will one day be devised and published by someone! And remember that Wikipedia is not only a fictional encyclopedia, but also one with very real facts and information. Naming an article like that might suggest that there is, in fact, one and only one Wizard World. But it is my opinion. --Jotomicron | talk 22:39, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point, but at the moment this is the only one called such, and very likely the only contender for the name for the next few years. Once the issue becomes relevant it can be dealt with a page move and some linkfixes, for now this is simpler. Incidentally, thanks for editing and keep it up, I follow the 'type until I drop' method, literally, and that leaves something to be desired. --Kizor 04:32, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article split!

message: On Portraits in Hogwarts, I can't get Violet's infobox to align properly! HELP!!! Supersaiyanplough|(talk) 11:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP!!!