Talk:List of individual apes

message: can someone verify "Sultan" as a famous ape? and if so, what kind was he?
:He was a lab chimp who exhibited behaviour that some have interpreted as intelligent tool use:  --Paul A 08:49, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sultan 

message: Bonobos are a kind of chimpanzee, so I propose we move bonobos to the chimp page.--Mishac 08:40, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe we should bow to the inevitable and merge the ape and chimp pages. If we take all the chimps (including Sultan and the bonobos) off this page, there's not going to be much left... --Paul A 08:49, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bonobos 

message: I plan to remove the word "historical" from the article name. See Talk:List_of_historical_animals for further discussion. Jay 08:39, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title and merges 

message: They're apes, not monkeys, and not included on the list... Nate 22:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a relevant point. Currently this list so called ape only appears to include great apes not lesser apes. If it is intended to only include great apes then it should be renamed. If it is intended to include both, then it should be expand or at least the opening paragraph should be re-worked to mention it includes lessers apes. Nil Einne 21:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added gibbons to the list (n.b. siamangs are gibbons) Nil Einne 05:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Gibbons and Siamangs? 

message: Jane Goodall reported in a National Geographic documentary that there were these 2 canaballistic chimpanzees; who killed baby chimps and ate them (shared the meat between Passion and her own daughter). She may have killed more than 10 baby chimps. This shows canabalism; so maybe these two chimps should be listed here? They seem to be pretty popular in this regard. There was another chimp, I believe it was the daughter or sister of Melissa the chimp, who tried to beg the humans for help while they were observing Passion & her daughter try and kill Melissa's newborn baby (while Melissa was attempting to defend it). 165.196.139.24 16:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passion and her daughter 

message: As far as I can tell from wikipedia, baboons are not considered apes even tho the word ape may have originally refered to baboons. As such I removed this line:
:* Repe - the alpha male in the baboon community of Korkeasaari Zoo, Helsinki
Nil Einne 21:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: I added this to the list of monkeys Nil Einne 21:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct, baboons are not now considered as apes (though bonobos of course are).  seglea 22:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baboons 

message: I removed the following (sorry I somehow got confused with baboons when I originally removed it):
:* Fabian - bonobo, 3D renderer
As it looks like vandalism to me. I'm highly doubt that a true bonobo 3D renderer exists and suspect it's someone's idea of a 'joke' on someone named Fabian who is a 3D renderer but not a bonobo. A quick Google also doesn't find anything. 21:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fabian? 

message: I changed the text. While I don't know the subject at all, I highly doubt he had a habit of throwing excrement at politicians. Most likely, he had a habit of throwing excrement at visitos, which occasionally included politicians and when it did it got in to the news. Perhaps he was particularly annoyed by large parties or cameras or something so politician tended to get a lot of it, but this would be because of the fact they're in a large party or have cameras following them, not because they're politicians. BTW, I assume he's dead from the past tense that was used? Nil Einne 19:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Micaco Tiao 

message: An anon user  removed the bit about not including humans. I've re-added it. I also added the non-human part to the first line. Perhaps if we say non-human apes we don't really need to clarify but IMHO it's better if we do both. However I will not object if you remove the explaination but not the non-human (or vice versa). And if you don't think humans are apes try reading the article Nil Einne 19:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humans and apes 

message: I moved Finster to the monkey list. Based on the fact that Finster appeared in the movie Monkey Trouble and also appeared as a monkey in another movie, I'm assuming Finster is a monkey but of course, it wouldn't be surprising if Finster was in fact a ape of some sort (probably a chimp). If someone can confirm that would be great Nil Einne 04:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finster 

message: Anyone know the names of the chimpanzee actors in the children's TV show Lancelot Link? Only two (Tongo and Debbie) are mentioned in that article. — Loadmaster 17:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lancelot Link 

message: I remember a show back in the 80's that featured an orangutang as the main character, but I can't remember the name. The orangutang was a female, I think, and the character has almost super-strength. It is a semi-obscure reference, but if anyone else remembers it, it might be worth looking into it. GoEThe (talk) 12:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orangutang starred 80's show 

message: Why is there not a space for Snowflake, the white gorilla? http://gorilla-haven.org/
Look under "Famous Gorillas" on the left.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.147.156.86 (talk) 02:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Snowflake

message: This title is vague.  It should be "notable apes" or "famous apes" or something.  Chrisrus (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Apes? 

message: What about Travis (chimpanzee)?  I just put him under "Pet Apes", but could he have been in "ape actors", as he had had a somewhat impressive resume of roles and co-stars before he became world famous, not for being a famous person's pet like the rest of that catagory, but for that horrible mauling of a family friend in Connecticut last year.  
Should there be a separate list for apes primarily famous for attacking a human?  Chrisrus (talk) 08:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Travis 

message: I see what you mean.  The word "notable" seems useless.  For example, "List of Iowans" or some such, it's assumed that they are going to be "notable" or "famous."  No one is going to think it's a list of all the Iowans who ever lived.  You don't need to call it "List of Notable Iowans". 
However, I just don't think that "List of Apes" is the answer.  It's just too vauge.  You see, "Chimp, Gorilla, Bonobo, Orangutan" is also a list of apes.  So is "King Kong, Clyde, Dr. Zeus".  The tile of an article should not be ambiguous like this.  It should say very specifically what this article is a list of.  "List of Apes" could be any number of things.  Is there no compromise title?
I hope you will agree with me that "List of Apes" is vague. Chrisrus (talk) 19:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be a movement to name such articles "Individual ____" instead of "List of ________".  For example, List of cats is now List of individual cats. Chrisrus (talk) 01:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Apes, Revisited 

message: I've removed the following section (Famous western lowland gorillas in captivity) from western lowland gorilla as it doesn't fit there.
*Babec – On exhibit at the Birmingham Zoo in Birmingham, Alabama (USA) and was the first gorilla to receive an artificial pacemaker. 
*Beta – First ever gorilla to undergo  hip replacement (three times: 1995, 2005, 2007). Lived at Brookfield Zoo with guenons. Died 2008. 
*Binti Jua – Saved a three-year-old boy that fell into her habitat in 1996 at Brookfield Zoo.
*Charles – A silverback and resident of the Toronto Zoo since 1974. Known for his painting abilities. 
*Colo – First gorilla to be born in captivity anywhere in the world and currently the oldest gorilla in captivity in the world. She was born at the Columbus Zoo to Millie Christina (mother) and Baron Macombo (father) on December 22, 1956.
*Goma – First gorilla born in a European zoo.  Celebrated her 50th birthday on September 23, 2009 at Zoo Basel.
*Guy the Gorilla – Large Western Lowland Gorilla that belonged to the London Zoo.
*Jambo – World-famous gorilla born at Zoo Basel and then transferred to the Jersey Zoo. On August 31, 1986, the five year old Levan Merritt fell into the gorilla enclosure and lost consciousness. Jambo stood guard over the boy when he was unconscious. Jersey Zoo has erected a bronze statue of Jambo.  Both a book and a documentary were made.
*Koko – Female western lowland gorilla whose trainer taught to use sign language to communicate.
* Massa – This former resident of the Philadelphia Zoo set the longevity record of 54 years at the time of his death in 1984.
* Nico – The oldest male gorilla in Europe. Lives at Longleat Safari Park in his own house on an island in the middle of the lake, with satelite television. He has been constantly featured on BBC Animal Park, and is well known and loved by the safari parks visitors
*Snowflake – The only albino gorilla known to date. Lived at Barcelona Zoo. Euthanized 2003.
*Tam-tam – First zoo gorilla who grew up in its gorilla group.  Born to Goma at Zoo Basel.
Incorporate if you think they are worth it. Jack (talk) 12:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous western lowland gorillas in captivity 

message: The name of this article should really be changed to "List of notable non-human apes". 98.231.173.213 (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do a move request. Chrisrus (talk) 22:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "apes" 

message: What about Lily at Disney's Animal Kingdom Theme Park, she has been in the news often and is know for the physical thearapy she went through during her first year of life. Do we feel she is a noteworthy candidate for this list?  192.195.66.3 (talk) 19:21, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lily 

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*Support. Adds clarity, can't see a reason not to move. Jenks24 (talk) 13:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

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message: I'm curious why Koko the gorilla is listed under 'artists' rather than 'science and exploration' where other apes which are most notable for their roles in ape language studies appear to be listed
70.73.134.255 (talk) 18:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koko as Artist? 

message: Article says the ape actor Buddah was beaten to death, however Wikipedia's own article on the film Any Which Way You Can indicates that doubt has been cast on this claim by a crew member and provides a source. For consistency, this should be added. (I know nothing of the situation so am not disputing the accuracy of this list, but having found a disputed claim, I'm mentioning it out of due diligence). 70.73.90.119 (talk) 21:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a rider to this effect. I doubt if the truth will ever be known. Darorcilmir (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Buddah

message: This was the name for a number of notable chimpanzees in the Bostock and Wombwell circus around the turn of the 20th century. https://www.georgewombwell.com/gw_blog/2014/06/07/artefacts-consul-the-intelligent-chimpanzee/ The name is cited in the page Proconsul (mammal) in the section explaining the naming of that genus and has a reference there. Milkfish (talk) 20:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consul