Talk:WrestleMania 22/Archive 1

message: Given that it's been explicitly stated that Rey will be in the main event, shouldn't the article say so? There's no need for "likely"; the only thing we don't know yet is whether it'll be the World Heavyweight Championship or the WWE Championship that he competes for. 68.47.234.131 00:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: == There's no guarantee until the night. He could be injured, or fired, or simply moved out of the main event for "creative" reasons. McPhail 15:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His match against Orton at No Way Out is a good example of why you can never use absolute terms when discussing future wrestling events; they're always subject to change.  Now it appears it'll be Orton/Angle at WrestleMania (though there is speculation that WWE may throw in Undertaker or Rey and make it a three-way). Jeff Silvers 23:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rey Mysterio in the main event

message: Can someone explain to me why my section on a tournament to crown a #1 contender to challenge for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 22 was erased?  This is factual information that can be verified by going to the WWE website.  Also according to the guidelines set forth by Wikipedia, this information was made public by the source (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw) so therefore I had every right to post it.  There was no reason why this information should have been deleted.  If it needed to be cleaned up, I completely understand that...but total erasing of something that added to this article was uncalled for.  The information I posted didn't break kayfabe and added to the article since this is all part of the road to WrestleMania. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:71.29.39.97 (talk • contribs) 
:I have to agree, it was posted on WWE.com so it should have a mention. I've recently created an article for the Road to WrestleMania Tournament so its mention on this article shouldn't be too extensive though. --Oakster 18:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if you do decide to add something about the tournament to this article i suggest that it should also be added to theWrestleMania 21 article for the 2005 tournament.-3bulletproof16 18:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWE Title Tourney 

message: Four Matchs set for WrestleMania 22 Undertaker vs Mark Herny Mick Foley Vs Edge 
Rany Orten Vs Kurt Angle John Cena Vs HHH —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Matty19 (talk • contribs) 
:With no disrepect to whomever posted this but your spelling and grammar are horrendous.  In addition the four matches that you listed above are purely speculation at this point and nothing has even been set in stone as far those matches happening.  I mean I can also list Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair for the Intercontinental Championship and Candice Michelle vs. Trish Stratus for the Women's Championship as taking place at this year's WrestleMania but that doesn't mean it's going to come to fruition.  At this point the matches that are already "known" are pure speculation and should be left as such until they are fully announced by the source, in this case World Wrestling Entertainment. 71.29.39.97 01:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Matchs already know for WrestleMania 22  

message: Its unfortunate that this has degraded as it has.  There are only a few sure things that can be mentioned here, one of them being that Rey Mysterio was scheduled to face the champion of his chosing, and that he is scheduled to defend that right against Randy Orton at No Way Out.  Who the champion is could change, and yes Mysterio could be injured, and of course Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball, but there are many 'scheduled to occur' events listed, look at the Olympics for example, and many things could happen there changing those up.
As far as dirt sheets, they are just that (and very rarely correct) but are by far not encyclopedic, and should be treated as tentative rumours, which definitely shouldn't be listed either.  Yes a mention of who the champions are currently would be fine, as well as listing the Raw Title Tournament seems well within reason, but things like Undertaker-Henry and such are simply rumours, no matter how true the insider info is, they have not been announced and should not be included.
One other thing that can me mentioned 'for sure' about WrestleMania this year is the Hall Of Fame Class of 2006.  As in 2004 and 2005 the Class is inducted the night before the event and the Class then appears at Mania the next night.  With Bret Hart confirmed today by WWE as the first inductee for 2006 this should be mentioned as well.
All other insider info and tidbits shouldn't be included, but the Mysterio-Orton 'right to face champion' definitely should, as that is 'scheduled' as scheduled as wrestling can be. - CyclopsScott 04:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unfortunate

message: Since WWE has finally begun properly advertising events for WM22, here are the following edits to be made to the front page:
*Matches
: John Cena v. Triple H for the WWE Championship
: Kurt Angle v. Randy Orton v. Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Championship in a Triple Threat Match
*Hall of Fame
: Bret Hart
: Eddie Guerrero
Also, Big Time should be linked in the reference to the theme song of the event.  
The Orton/Mysterio/Champion match shouldn't be added to the page until the winner of the Angle/Undertaker match is known.  As far as any other matches or HOF entrants, they should be announced a reasonable time after the official announcement on Raw, Smackdown, or WWE.com. Anthony Hit me up... 13:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits to be made to page

message: I've created a draft page for an updated version of the article for when the article's protection gets removed. I just want people's opinion on this, as I'm still a little bit iffy on the logo section. --Oakster 18:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After all the changes that have been made months before the event itself I think we should wait 'till after the event ends to avoid more reverts --3bulletproof16 19:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The page should probably be kept locked until the event has taken place. The moment it is unlocked, there will be a deluge of rumoured matches. The existing article has a link to the WWE page, which already has adequate information on the event. McPhail 21:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - the less articles being polluted with markboard speculation, the better. - Chadbryant 22:17, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. It's a good idea anyway. --Oakster 22:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft page 

message: Does anyone know whether or not it will be 6 people or 3 because the way raw is pushing it it seems only like 3 people at this point.
*Considering all official sources all that's been confirmed is that there will be 3 people (Benjamin, Van Dam, Flair). However I think it's safe to assume that it'll be pushed up to 6 somehow within the next month, since it'd just be silly not to given that's how the original match was. MarcK 11:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The other three competitors will come from the Smackdown roster. - Chadbryant 12:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do you get this reliable source of information, A "markboard".  Your the same person who bash people for posting speculation, yet you post this.  Since Smackdown hasn't aired yet and it wasn't announced on Raw then I wonder where you got that from. Vinnyxvincent 03:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: With all due respect, he was right. Bssc81 15:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes he was, as we found out on the March 6th Raw.  However the reason I posted my statement was because he posted a rumor, which is the same thing he had been complaining about.  If you look at the dates.  I made my post before the episode of RAW aired. Vinnyxvincent 19:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is extremely likely that matt hardy will be one of the three smackdown superstars in this match (considering all the experience he has in ladder matches. Jman5 17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Money In The Bank II 

message: I am considering requesting semi-protection on this article. A look at the history reveals a multitude of edits from unregistered users who are simply re-adding style-violating content (speculation, kayfabe, etc.) that the established editors constantly have to remove. I have decided to propose this action here before pursuing it, in order to recieve feedback from the community. - Chadbryant 02:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that WP:SEMI is very clear, in several places, that it is to be used for vandalism only. Note that WP:VAND is also quite clear on what constitutes vandalism. You will have to make the case that the edits amount to bad-faith editing with intent to disrupt if you request semi-protection. -Splashtalk 03:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I requested semi-protection a few days ago but it was rejected. Unfortunately, the majority of anonymous editors are, while poorly informed and semi-literate, not actively vandalising the page, per se. McPhail 13:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-Protection

message: i know it has not been  told yet but i went to a wrestling  spolier site and it  said that the Undertaker will  face Mark Herny in a casket match
:yes it is true, but please do not post the match as it has not been "officially" announced Perry 01:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UnderTaker Vs Mark Herny in casket Match  

message: Well I think this is the Wrestlemania 22 card and i think its a very good card i don't think there will be anymore matchs i think this is i. Whoever put Austin Vs Bret Hart your carzy  becuase that is never going to  happen.
:It's a good PPV card, but a decent WrestleMania card. Last year you knew matches like Angle/HBK, Eddie/Rey, Orton/Taker would deliver. This year it seems each match (with the exception of the 3-way) has a 50/50 chance of being good. Perry 20:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I agree, people overlook the card, and expect it to contain a HBK-Bret Hart 5 star classic. However, I am doubtful it will top last year's wrestlemania, but I am still looking forward to it. Jman5 07:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As retarded as the build-up initially was, I'm actually looking forward to the Vince v. HBK match now.  I'll pop if Michaels gives him a nice superkick to the chin and knocks him the F out; so if you see a guy in the front row wearing an F4W "tilde bang" hat go crazy for it that's me. :) BronzeWarrior 09:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really wanna watch Mr. McMahon in the ring again, lets face it, he is not a certified wrestler. Jman5 03:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. That's why HBK kicking his ass is the only possible good outcome. BronzeWarrior 03:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  so i think that the Wrestlemania 22 card   

message: Why was my trivia section deleted?  I thought it added some interesting tidbits to the page, and every previous WM page has them.  Personally I think the 3RR violations regarding the "For the" are getting ridiculous, but that's just me. Anthony Hit me up... 21:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask the person who deleted it. I think it's close enough to WM to add a trivia section. "For the" is standard for WrestleMania articles, it should stay. Perry 21:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Go ahead and re-insert the information. It is relevant to the article. Thanks. TruthCrusader 18:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: Smackdown is this firday and we still don't konw who going to be on the money and the bank ladder match from the samckdown three stars so why has someone put finlay on there that should be removed puls, I really don't think finlay will win I like lashley to win it
*First off, sign your name and date with four tildes.  Secondly, your spelling is atrocious.  Having gotten that out of the way, I agree with you that, in the interest of kayfabe and as per the standard of all wrestling pages, things that occur on Smackdown! should not be posted until after it airs on Friday night.  Thank you for fixing someone's overzealous efforts to alter the page.  Anthony Hit me up... 17:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that spoiler information like that should be edited in once word of it comes out. If this were a wrestling message board, then spoilers should go away. But this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, and I think that on an encyclopedia, we shouldn't hold back known information. tv316 21:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no spoilers on the page because that is the policy of Wikipedia.  If you don't like it, lobby to change the policy.  In the meantime, anything that happens Tuesday night at the tapings doesn't get posted on the site until Friday night after Smackdown! airs.  Anthony Hit me up... 23:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is Finlay on there