Talk:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)/Archive 2

message: I noticed there was no info about Firenze at all, his character isn't listed anywhere on any of the cast lists (confirmed or not).  I was wondering if anyone had any info about him in the movie, is he cut?  Who's playing him?  Is he all CGI like in SS or will he be half-CGI'ed like in "The Chronicles of Narnia"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KitKat25 (talk • contribs) 
I have no idea. KitKat25- you should sign your posts! (With the four tildes (~).) Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 02:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Due to the casting of Michael Wildman as Magorian, I would guess that the centaurs would be at least partly real humans. I loved Narnia a lot, especially the centaurs (Oreius was great!), so that would be a plus. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 19:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh really? Firstly, I think you mean PS/SS. Secondly, what source is that from? --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 02:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Firenze

message: Hello there, I want to make a statement. I cannot express how odd I find it that despite everyones' attempt to make this article fully reliable in content, sources are often creeping in that are known to be unreliable: namely IMDB. IMDB has it's similarities to Wikipedia, in that, it is edited by the public, however edits are private and are not maintained or watched by anyone. A prime example I can tell you about is the false alligation that Domino Marianelli (I believe that was his name) was set to be composer for Order of the Phoenix, only to find that Nicholas Hooper has since been confirmed! I think this policy should be nipped in the bud right now, you must not take IMDB's word as a confirmation, unless stated otherwise on a more reliable source Foxearth 10:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll agree, but so far as I know nothing on the page right now is confirmed only by IMDb. And the composer's name was Dario Marianelli. The other thing about IMDb is that, while it is public, it is doesn't cite its sources. But I'll second the idea that IMDb's word is not confirmation, as long as we agree with my April 7 statement in the #Release Date section of this talk page, which nobody has yet responded to, which is that we report everything which is supposedly confirmed by TLC, MN, or HPANA. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 16:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IMDB - An Unreliable Source

message: If were not going to follow anything IMDB says, why doesn't we get rid of the link at the bottom of the page?ForestH2 23:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Forest, your suggestion is a good one. I took out the IMDb sources for the OOP film, but since the site is very accurate when it comes to talking about already released films, I cited Steve Kloves' page for the citation concerning his writing of the first four films' screenplays. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 01:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Forest is correct. So far there is no news about Gleeson except that he seems enthusiastic, as noted in the article. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 19:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IMDB Source

message: If you look at Harry Potter Fan Zone Potter Fan Zone's complete Order of the Phoenix Cast List you miss Felton, Leung, and other people. Go down Wikipedia's list and match them with HPFZ (Harry Potter Fan Zone). Ethier were wrong or there wrong meaning we should delete the link in the Ex. Links as we did or we should remove the confirmed cast we have and put them back into Expected. ForestH2
:Forest, I don't quite understand what you're saying. Felton and Leung are confirmed on our page and also on HPFZ's. What exactly are you asking? --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 01:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: HPFZ

message: Wanted to know if anyone could help me. For the bottom two "Confirmed Scenes" I can't get them to appear on refrences. I tried doing the way I know for it to appear but it didn't. Then I copyed the above one. Still nothing...It says "To many invalid keys" or something like that. Thanks, ForestH2
:I have fixed it, Forest. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 21:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wondering

message: If anyone happend to look at Leaky Cauldron they have updated there site with some names giving no sources. I wanted to say this so nobody moves the actors to confirmed. ForestH2
:Forest, which actors do you mean? I check Leaky daily and didn't see anything of that nature recently…--Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 00:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Leaky Cauldron

message: Right now they are trying to film a chase in which the involved witches/wizards pass famous London landmarks. From David Yates:
"So far, we have spent a lot of time on boats on the Thames. I want to do a great big wizard chase past the London landmarks and it is going to be very exciting, but it has not been easy to set up." Sorry, I am not allowed to edit on the main page so I put it here so you can put it in the section about scenes filmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.235.128 (talk • contribs) 
::71.254.235.128, thanks for your info. Since we're not exactly sure what scenee this is, I don't think it belongs in "Confirmed Scenes," but you will see it is in the Filming Locations Rumors section. Once WB confirms what the scene is that is being filmed (I know it's a "wizard chase" but we don't know what that is in the book), we'll add it to the scenes section. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 00:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chase 

message: Foxearth has cluttered the Confirmed Scenes together to match them in categories. I am in the process of matching them, but still it looks to cluttered to have all those sections. Should we go back, and just have Confirmed Scenes or leave it that way? ForestH2
It looks much better now though we may want to put the Opening Sequence first. ForestH2
What are you on about? I uncluttered the page... that was the point in sorting the scenes out into categories, it makes for easier reading, I'm just trying to keep the page easy on the eye as it were, so don't start this nonsense Foxearth (Logged out)
:No need to argue guys, I think having the categories is much more organized; we may even make a table. For the moment, however, things look fine and we don't need to start an argument. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 20:03, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cluttered

message: Hi I want to ask if somebody can correct the picture of the Dumbledore army in imdb where Harry Melling is describe in the picture (we know that it is William Melling)
Herre is the link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/photogallery
:Consideirng that this is Wikipedia and not IMDb, I would suggest you try inquiring at that site. We are not interlinked. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IMDB Picture gallery 

message: Do we want a section with the int'l release dates, as they have been reported by TLC, MN, and HPANA in the past few days? I noticed no other HP film has a section for them… --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 19:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Release Dates 

message: Uh...let's see here...William Melling, Harry's brother is confirmed to play Nigel....a character not in the book in OOTP. Charlotte Skeotch is confirmed and Mark Williams is confirmed. Also confirmed in Henry Llyod-Hughes. Though I kind of dobut all these characters- I'm going to add Melling as Nigel though. ForestH2 | + | √+ | √ | √- | - 23:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Actors at Snitch

message: Hello, I've had a butchers at the Mugglenet Cast page for OOTP. It states that Robert Hardy and Mark Williams are returning, however it doesn't leave any relevant citations. whilst generally Mugglenet can be trusted, I do believe that these two actors shouldn't be moved from Expected/Possible to Confirmed just yet, for I do have a slight suspicion that this may be through IMDB, rather than a reliable source (for they've both been placed there). See what you make of it. Foxearth 09:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The MuggleNet cast page is usually pretty good, and MN's good in general; however, no matter the reliability of the source, we have to provide citations. So, nothing doing yet… --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 12:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry. Mark Williams can be confirmed cause he's filmed King's Cross scenes though I have no idea about Robert Hardy though....ForestH2 t/c 17:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Forest, both were confirmed in August and are in the correct position on the article page. :-) --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Confirmed? Actors on Mugglenet Cast Page

message: In the <I>cut scenes</I> section you say that the night bus scenes have been cut do to the fact that the night bus is in pieces. But, mugglenet.com has new pictures of the night bus. At the very least you should take it off the cut scenes list. here’s the link 
http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1895&pos=2
–—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bradbwilson (talk • contribs) . 
:First of all, fix your grammer please. The Knight Bus has been cut; those are hardly any pictures to whine about. If you see anything that says "We have filmed the Knight Bus scenes" or something let us know. The pictures, I saw them to are just there; fake; because Warner Bros. told us there not going to appear, there probably some kind of buses, they don't look like the Knight Bus anyway. It is possible that is the picture of the Knight Bus that is not going to be used in this film, and BTW, please sign your name when you leave a message on a talk page. Carmelapple 16:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Carmelapple, don't bite the newcomers. Brad, I saw the pictures as well but, because Warner Brothers confirmed that the Knight Bus scenes would not appear, but that the pictures are neither official nor confirmed to be of the Knight Bus. So, we're going to leave it in cut scenes for now. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that explains why I welcomed him, doesn't it? I didn't bite him. Carmelapple 23:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just meant the "fix your grammar" line. But that's all right, I do see you've welcomed him. :-) I was a bit exhausted after a long ride back from the Hamptons, sorry. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 01:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You went to the Hamptons? Where are they? Carmelapple 01:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not very fair of you to peg Bradbwilson when you yourself have rather... dodgy grammar.  It's even worse when you suggest to him to correct his grammar, and then fill your own reply with run-on sentences and typos. Let's be kind, polite people, yes? PantherFoxie 22:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knight Bus 

message: Does he appear after Sirius's house? ForestH2 t/c 02:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mundungus Fletcher appears at Sirius' house, at the Hog's Head under a veil (though it's not known it's him at the time), and again at Grimmauld Place at Christmas time. I wouldn't remove him yet, though, because I believe the report was just referring to the first time at 12GP, though if we see Mundundgus at all I'll be surprised. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fletcher

message: Alright, I'm a n00bish Wikipedian. This is where I go for something like this right? Anyway, I put a section with all the international release dates but while trying to reference my work, I kind of....messed it up XDD Can somebody help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyspoonkiller (talk • contribs) 
:Hi - and thanks for trying!  We always welcome "n00bish Wikipedians" to contribute, especially when they have something valuable to add - which you did.  Perhaps the best thing to do in the case your edit goes awry is revert it (select the history tab, select a previous version that was OK, select to edit that version of the page, add a quick edit summary, ie: "self revert botched edit", and save the page), so the article is not left in the tatters of a botched edit.  To add the reference source and avoid the wrath of the "Citation Cops", just mention where you got it as a footnote source, and eventually someone will fix it.  I temporarily set the Mugglenet reference up as an external link footnote source, as an example of how to do it, until it can be properly merged into the references citation package.  Right now there is such a bizarre tangled tri-wizard maze of reference citations, that it is increasingly difficult, nearly impossible, to properly navigate and study the article and verify the reference links.  It seems every other word had to be cited.  Ah well.  Oh and PS:  you can "sign" your comments by ending with a string of four ~ tildas.  Thanks again.  --T-dot 10:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Oops

message: The german version of the article is available, please to write in sth., is impossible for myself! -- 84.179.89.80 20:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Version 

message: :*"Miranda Richardson, despite speculation, stated she wouldn't be back at, and, David Heyman confirmed at, the New York City Goblet of Fire red carpet interview with The Leaky Cauldron that Rita Skeeter would not return."
This garbbled sentence seems an unfortunate consequence of several edits gone wrong. I was going to edit it to "fix it", but there is something I'm not clear on:
* Did both Miranda Richardon and David Heyman speak to "The Leaky Cauldron", or was it only Mr. Heyman who did? Were they interviewed together, or were there two separate interviews?
* I would also suggest removing "despite speculation". In this context, it isn't adding any information. Speculation from whom, about what, and how relevant/correct was it?
* Though there is a hyperlink, it isn't clear that "The Leaky Cauldron" is a website. When I first read this sentence as a layperson, it made no sense to me. Nor did it make any sense on the second or third read. It was only when I happened to hover on the hyperlink that I understood that it didn't refer to "The Leaky Cauldron" that Harry Potter readers are familiar with, but rather to a website with the same name.  Mip | Talk 18:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm… seems it was never paid attention to after lots of reverting of speculation (that's probably how the "despite speculation" got in there). I'll change it. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 19:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Say What?