Talk:Eadweard Muybridge

message: Muybridge murdered his wife's lover on October 17, 1874, and got away with it, apparently the last convicted murderer in California not to be punished except by reason of insanity. These facts deserve to be mentioned in this article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.220.141.35 (talk) 04:46, 21 February 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Murder

message: Yes, the killing and aquittal do deserve to go into this article−as does the fact that Philip Glass's much-acclaimed 1982 opera The Photographer is based on that incident.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.188.27 (talk) 16:46, 17 April 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Photographer" 

message: The article states that the horse photo was to answer if more than 1 hoof is on the ground at once and then goes on to discuss the (apparently not asked) question regarding all the hooves being off the ground at once.  Which is it?  It then goes on to answer the apparently asked question.  However, I think the 'all hooves off the ground' area needs to be clarified somehow. Monty2 08:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody obviously decided to argue with the article inside the article and so you're left with such loose ends! According to Stanford Magazine, though, Stanford's position was that all four hooves were airborne (there's even a name for this, "unsupported transit"), so it doesn't look like this is a "trivially observed" question as the older text had it. I think we can take the university's magazine as reasonably definitive, since they likely had access to his papers in writing it. --Dhartung | Talk 18:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great find, thanks for the source.  The only other place I've really seen this observed was James Burke on one of his shows, I believe Connections, and he went with it being 'all four off the ground' question. Monty2 01:24, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The problem with this part of the article is that you say they were trying to prove that the horse's hooves were off the ground during a *trot*, yet the film shows the horse *galloping*.  So why is the horse galloping if they were trying to prove a trot?  What were your sources for this statement?  Dailycyclist 14:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem in description of horse pictures 

message: The Modoc War took place in southern Oregon and northern California, and had nothing to do with the railroads. Gentgeen 20:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Modoc War

message: The guy did most (all?) of his work in the US.  You can say he was british or american or both.  (as A canadian I am well aware that many of my contrymen spend a good part of their carreers in the US, and the americans do tend to claim them.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cmacd123 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't want a dispute about nationality. 

message: wikipedia is not censored for minors, so that picture of the woman...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.9.11 (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. Wikipedia is not censored for anyone. What do you mean to insinuate with "..." ?  MURGH disc. 03:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: hello

message: How is it that Eadweard and his son died the in the same year but only five years apart in age?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.40.13.202 (talk) 00:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully corrected now... --Rividian (talk) 14:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florado's age ? 

message: I want to provide a better rendition of Muybridge participation to the World's Columbian Exposition. I complete the mention about the "disks produced for the phenakistoscope, a parlor toy used to view short motion sequences". Jean Fex (talk) 15:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 1893 Chicago World's Fair 

message: A list of his works would be lovely. 24.161.161.194 (talk) 23:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Muybridge photographed the Tlingit in 1868, "To Alaska with government military force, visits Ft. Wrangell and photographs Tlingit Indians." (Fleming/Lusky, p. 242, source: Ralph W. Andrews, 1964 and David Mattison, 1985).
* On the Modoc War, 1872, -73 (Paula Fleming/Judith Lusky, The North American Indians in Early Photographs, p. 46): "Both Louis Herman Heller and Eadweard Muybridge took photographs during the conflict, creating for the first time an almost complete record of an Indian war..." M. was employed by the US government (Heller not). "It is possible that the government hired Muybridge to justify the army' s poor field performances against the Modocs" (Fleming and Lusky credit: Peter E. Palmquist. P. has published 2 essays, 1977, 1978 on M. and Louis Heller as reporters of the Modoc war).--Radh (talk) 14:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indians 

message: The article states that:
I recently went to the Corcoran Gallery's excellent and extensive exhibit of Muybridge's work.  Although they're clearly a small minority of his work, there are a number of solo, formal portraits shown in the exhibit.  I specifically recall portraits of his wife Flora, of a local San Francisco actress, and of himself.  I believe there were others of athletes and dancers as well.  Also shown in the exhibit were his "business cards", which were essentially photographs of collages of his work, including many portraits (he specifically advertised "celebrity portraits" on them, as I recall).
So Muybridge definitely made many portraits, perhaps to pay the bills if nothing else.  Am I misunderstanding this sentence in the article?  If not, it should be removed or altered. Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 04:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "No portraits" seems wrong 

message: Wikipedia doesn't have a consistent policy on how to define this. Which of these options should it be?
"... was an English photographer who spent much of his life in the United States."
"... was a British photographer who spent much of his life in the United States."
129.174.161.41 (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  English or British? 

message: Is it really accurate to talk about the "flexible perforated film strips" that are "used today"?  What about digital video? Sithman  VIII !! 04:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used Today 

message: Letter to the editor Nature from B. Laufer who wrote Chinese Pottery of the Han Dynasty (1909) RPSM (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: What was it about precisely, and why did he lose?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.86.185 (talk) 09:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The ‘horse lawsuit’ 

message: The paragraph that talks about him being hit by a car says it happened in 1944, but he died in 1904. Probably a typo.
Jaruz (talk) 07:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That paragraph is talking about his son, Floddie who was 69 when he died. The 1944 date is correct. - X201 (talk) 10:00, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of death in the article should show 1904 not 1944 

message: On 4/9/12, Google gave him a google thing in honor of him; however, since the article is protected, I'm unable to edit the article.  Can somebody make this edit please?  --96.242.163.228 (talk) 10:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Google

message: Shouldn't it be "Edward"? I've never heard of the name "Eadweard" in my life...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.123.221.141 (talk) 13:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Explanation for spelling is in the article - old English form.Parkwells (talk) 18:25, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Eadweard"????? 

message: The date of death is wrong as written in the section "Stanford and the galloping question". In the last sentence, it should be written 1904 instead of 1944.
24.48.111.127 (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see no death date in the "Stanford" section. The section following it has a death date, but as I said in the post a couple of place above this one, that is not talking about Eadweard Muybridge, its addressing his son, Floddie, who DID die in 1944. - X201 (talk) 07:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 9 April 2012 

message: from the section, "Stanford and the galloping question", the fourth paragraph states, "This series of photos stands as one of the earliest forms of videography." and I think it is an incorrect statement. The Websters Dictionary says "Videography is the practice or art of recording images with a video camera". The definition of Video is, "Television" and the definition of Television is "an electronic system of transmitting transient images of fixed or moving objects together with sound over a wire or through space by apparatus that converts light and sound into electrical waves and reconverts them into visible light rays and audible sound", again from Websters Dictionary.  So, I don't think "videography" is the correct term for what Muybridge was doing. Rather, I think the correct term is "cinematography". Smash591 (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree; relation to "cinematography" noted in next pararaph; videography deleted.Parkwells (talk) 18:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Videography didn't exist until after his death 

message: By all accounts, Muybridge worked mostly in the US as an adult, so why the insistence on saying "North America"? California was a state by 1850, Oregon was a US Territory. He worked briefly in Alaska, but the preponderance was within the US. Parkwells (talk) 18:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the article, he went to Alaska after it was acquired by the US, so thar should count too. Wschart (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Location of work

message: Thank you, User:Parkwells for adding more material about Muybridge's stagecoach accident.  It clearly was a significant life event, knocking him off-kilter for several years, and likely changing his entire career.  The note about Shimamura's comments is definitely noteworthy, and he appears to have written about it in an interesting-sounding paper which I unfortunately don't have access to.  It lends possible insight into Muybridge's impulsiveness and emotional instability, his later murderous actions, and his abrupt changes in career direction.  Could you tie in Shimamura's comments more solidly, with more footnotes and possibly some strategic quotations?  This is just a modest suggestion, if you have the time and the access to the background material. Thanks for your efforts to improve the article, while defending it from vandals!  --Reify-tech (talk) 17:04, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, will see what I can find. I have the Solnit book, not the Shimamura paper, but she likely has specific cites to it.Parkwells (talk) 00:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: She refers in her footnotes to an unpublished paper of Shimamura. As her book was published in 2003, she may have read his paper before he published it in 2002.Parkwells (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Found a url for the paper, but it won't download more than the cover.  May just use Solnit's quotes from her text.Parkwells (talk) 02:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I was very happy to see the URL, and I was able to download the entire paper, and to print it out.  It's well worth reading, and presents a coherent chronological narrative; I found the details recounted there to be fascinating.  It does vary in some details, for example that it says that Muybridge's wife Flora did divorce him before she died.  It's not clear whether the Shimamura paper is correct in this, as this assertion is not referenced specifically, and it is not at all essential to his overall thesis. Some other sources should be checked to confirm or deny this minor claim.  Anyway, the overall paper is fascinating, including a retelling of the Phineas Gage case, and its similarity to Muybridge's.  Try to download it again, and maybe it will work. If all else fails, send me your email address privately, and I'll send you my copy of the file, or I'll get it to you some other way.  Again, thanks for your work, which is contributing a lot to improving the Wikipedia article.  --Reify-tech (talk) 11:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Stagecoach accident

message: This is about my contribution's citation requirements: »In Buenos Aires (2009), graphic and typographic designer Victor Garcia created "MotionBats", a family of symbol fonts based on some of Muybridge's photographic sequences.[citation needed]«
Sources to confirm this are the following Webpages: 
Designer's Webpage: http://www.victorgarcia.com.ar/english/t_motionbats.html
Directory of Latin American Tipography: http://d-t-l.org/tipografias-detalles.php?id=291
Creative Review design magazine (Great Britain): http://www.creativereview.co.uk/feed/october-2009/20/motionbats
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/images/2009/10/motionbats_01_0.jpg
MyFonts (USA)" http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/victorgarcia/motion-bats/
Thaks, Tipogarcia (talk) 04:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: To me it looks like Muybridge is very important to Garcia's life and career, but not vice versa. The MotionBats symbol fonts are not so notable that they need to be included in Muybridge's biography. Binksternet (talk) 05:27, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy... Citation required 

message: :File:Historic American Buildings Survey Nelson Collection, McCoy Label Co., S.F. Circa - 1876 VIEW DURING ERECTION - U. S. Sub-Treasury and Mint, 608 Commercial Street, San HABS CAL,38-SANFRA,17-3.tif seems to be by him. any history of his work with them?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:33, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Muybridge did indeed photograph the first (and still standing) S.F. Mint building under construction. A very large collection of Muybridge's photographs, including, IIRC, several views of the Mint, is available online via the Bancroft Library of the University of California, Berkeley. 66.81.220.16 (talk) 03:30, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

text: I just double-checked. Seven such photos are currently available online from that source . Scroll a bit less than halfway down the inconveniently very long list to find them. Here  is a direct link to the first in the series; alas, there is no "next" option for easy access to the rest. 66.81.220.16 (talk) 04:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic American Buildings Survey

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message: The moving image labeled "A phenakistoscope sequence of a couple waltzing" appears to be left-right mirrored. Note which hand the man has raised as he turns with the lady. Not only is it incorrect dance form, it is reversed from the still image of the wheel immediately above.
The disk is apparently viewed in a mirror, so I suppose it may be correct, but perhaps that could be noted.
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thread_title:  Image error? 

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The DNA of a living organism has been used as a medium for video storage. Using Muybridge's movie of the galloping horse Annie G., a low-rez video was stored in and retrieved from, for the first time, in the DNA of live organism. 
Link http://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/devices/scientists-store-video-data-in-the-dna-of-living-organisms
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thread_title:  Galloping horse movie stored on DNA 

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message: The article currently states that "In central Texas, Muybridge suffered severe head injuries in a violent runaway stagecoach crash which injured every passenger on board, and killed one of them.[17][18] Muybridge was bodily ejected from the vehicle, and hit his head on a rock or other hard object. He was taken 150 miles (240 km) to Fort Smith, Arkansas, for treatment (his earliest memories post-accident were there), where he stayed three months . . . "
There is nowhere even on the northernmost or easternmost Texas borders closer than 200 miles from Fort Smith. Waco, probably the northernmost city that might be considered "central Texas," is 372 miles away. 
If anyone has a bio on hand, could you check to fix the location of the crash, or the mileage, whichever is incorrect?
--Kcatmull (talk) 22:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location problem 

message: I've noticed there are a good few reputable-seeming sources online that show the spelling of Floddie's birth name as Floredo instead of Florado. Is it possible Floredo reflects how his name was pronounced [fluh-REY-doh]? His headstone shows Florado, so that seems to be the correct spelling (not sure who commissioned the headstone, though, or when it was put in place) but I'm curious why there are so many instances of Floredo in articles, books, etc.69.113.151.63 (talk) 20:16, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florado? Floredo? 

message: In my edits and additions I worked with whatever name Muggeridge/Muggridge/Muygridge/Muybridge personally used at the time of the described actions, as written in the original sources that I usually refer to (or at least as known from contemporary documentation). Of course many people prefer to see his name only in the familiar "Muybridge" form and therefore changed the original versions (and probably will keep changing them). 
In some cases, the only way to be sure that a wikipedia entry is accurate depends on using the right name. For instance: a mention of the name Muygridge in Californian newspapers could concern his brother Thomas, without stating a first name. Technically, if such news messages are described on wikipedia somewhat like "It was reported that Muygridge did this" they would be totally correct (and would reflect a likely misinterpretation that would also exist at the time of the original source), while "It was reported that Muybridge did this" would be false. Of course if the entry actually turns out to be about another person, it should be deleted or changed.
Also, using the right name enhances the narrative. It's weird to read something like "Muybridge did this. Muybridge did that. He then started using the name Muybridge." (somewhat similar to what actually remained in the article after someone edited my writing). This can be fixed by just removing a sentence about the name change in biographic parts (it was already detailed in a separate section after all). More importantly, changing everything to "Muybridge" is also a bit like consistently referring to young Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader (or to Darth Vader as Anakin Skywalker); that would be more confusing than having to get used to the different names that someone used during very different stages of his life, wouldn't it?Joortje1 (talk) 08:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that we should try to use the name variant Muybridge was using during the specific times being described. In connection with that, is there any documentation of the name he was using when he arrived in the US for the first time, an an immigrant in New York City in 1850? Immigrants often took the occasion to change their names upon arrival, or had their names changed by immigration authorities. It would be informative to find documentation of what name he used, as noted in official records.  Reify-tech (talk) 19:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names used in article 

message: "Moments Captured" - book by Robert J. Seidman published in 2012 by Overlook Press, NY. I have just finished this book of fiction based on the life of Eadweard Muybridge. The "Author's Note" reads: "There are many ways to illuminate history. Fiction is one. Moments Captured is a work of fiction generously based on events in the life of Eadweard Muybridge, the pioneering nineteenth-century photographer, but it certainly does not intend to be a faithful biography. I have taken liberties with the chronology of the artist's career and have omitted and invented characters in his circle."  Ken Hatcher 98.121.168.170 (talk) 16:02, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  omission in "Legacy and Representation in other media"