Talk:AIDS-defining clinical condition

message: This article is about "AIDS defining clinical condition". Information about WHO disease staging system is not relevant to this article. Fred2005 11:17, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

message: However, when an individual presents laboratory evidence against HIV infection, a diagnosis of AIDS is ruled out unless the patient has not:
undergone high-dose corticoid therapy or other immunosuppressive/cytotoxic therapy in the three months before the onset of the indicator disease OR been diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, lymphocytic leukemia, multiple myeloma, or any cancer of lymphoreticular or histiocytic tissue, or angioimmunoblastic lymphoadenopathy OR a genetic immunodeficiency syndrome atypical of HIV infection, such as one involving hypogamma globulinemia
AND
the individual has had Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia OR one of the above defining illnesses AND a CD4+ T-cell count below 200 cells/µl (or a CD4+ T-cell percentage of total lymphocytes of less than 14%).
:This seems to to be attempting to describe the process of diagnosing AIDS rather than defining the list. But all those double negatives? Sci guy 01:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is entirely relevant, as someone with Hodgkin's disease may present with one of the conditions listed, yet not be diagnosed with having AIDS. You don't seem to understand the complexities of this issue. --Grcampbell 16:06, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am concerned about your use of double negatives as in "a diagnosis of AIDS is ruled out unless the patient has not been diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease" Sci guy 14:37, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Also are you saying that people with Hodgkin's disease test positive for HIV antibodies on both Elisa and Western blot when they are not infected with HIV? Sci guy 14:41, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Did I say that? Try reading the article: "when an individual presents laboratory evidence against HIV infection". Some peope have been transiently infected, and/or have no antiobodies against HIV due to a number of factors and/or plasma viremia and cytoviremia is undetectable. This is the CDC definition of AIDS defining clinical conditions, if you disagree with them, talk to the folk in Atlanta. --Grcampbell 15:56, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: I can not be certain of the Definition section of the article for lack of wording after the two OR's in the clip below. I suggest some new language below IN CAPS after the two OR's.
People who are not infected with HIV may also develop these conditions; this does not mean they have AIDS. However, when an individual presents laboratory evidence against HIV infection, a diagnosis of AIDS is ruled out unless:
the person has not undergone high-dose corticoid therapy or other immunosuppressive/cytotoxic therapy in the three months before the onset of the indicator disease OR THE PERSON HAS been diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, lymphocytic leukemia, multiple myeloma, or any cancer of lymphoreticular or histiocytic tissue, or angioimmunoblastic lymphoadenopathy OR THE PERSON HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH a genetic immunodeficiency syndrome atypical of HIV infection, such as one involving hypogamma globulinemia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.135.138.210 (talk) 03:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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