Talk:Dinaric race

message: Is this serious? just wondering --AN 19:42 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)
There is indeed a "Dinaric" type in physical anthropology. Actually, Dinaric types are found throughout the world, but are common in the West Balkans. I am not sure if Slobodan Milosevic is the best example, as he is rather short and stocky he would be more of an "Alpine".
Anyway, this classification is serious (or at least was serious until the 1960's), though of course, most scientists have moved away from these sorts of physical catagories, and now focus on genetic differences among populations. 
Other such categorizations include "Nordic", "Alpine", "Mediterranean", and so on. I am sure a lot of people find these highly questionable.
: It has to be taken into consideration that a HUGE proportion of the world's population is racially mixed to some extent or another, and to say the least that complicates any attempts at classification. Gringo300 10:13, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: serious?

message: It seems that "We are all the same" crowd took over the article, with the usual softeners and euphemisms and other PC jargon acrobations.As long as we all pay cash, we are all equal, right?A head,two arms, two legs, five fingers each and you are good at everything like everybody else.......
:I'm not sure what an "acrobation" is, but I don't see any PC jargon here. As far as I am aware the concept of a "Dinaric race" is not used in modern anthropology. However, if you have examples of mainstream professional modern usage, add them. The main criticism of the concept that's included here comes from the notoriously PC Carelton Coon! Paul B 11:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: softeners

message: There are no sources other than a Franz Boas reference at the end, but the 3rd and 4th and last paragraph all sound as if they come directly from a textbook. Should these sections be in block quotes?  Where is this outdated material coming from, anyway?--Parkwells (talk) 00:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is quite clear about the sources for the idea - originally Deniker and then Günther, Coon and the other usual-suspects among mid-20th century anthropologists, including text books such as Meyers Blitz-Lexikon. Coon wrote about "dinarics" repeatedly in the Races of Europe and numerous essays ("Occipital flattening among the Dinarics") etc. I don't know if the passage in the middle is a quotation or not. I did try to find out if it was a while ago, but couldn't find a source. Paul B (talk) 09:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant was that some of those paragraphs sounded like direct quotes from an early 20th c. encyclopedia or textbook.  I think the article needs to be supplemented with at least a paragraph or more about how this approach was discredited, or why contemporary anthropologists don't use it - what was the criticism or new information.--Parkwells (talk) 13:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I knew what you meant. That's why I said "I don't know if the passage in the middle is a quotation or not. I did try to find out if it was a while ago, but couldn't find a source." It sounded cut-n-pasteish to me too, but I could find no evidence that it was. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough. I don't think the idea was ever discredited as such. It just came to be seen as largely useless. Even Coon eventually uses the term simply to mean nothing more than a local "type". It wasn't killed off so much as died out. Paul B (talk) 15:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It's called a race, like it or not. Paul B (talk) 22:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am shocked that people can't use their own brain and parrot these demagogic, ideological statements over and over again like a hypnotized herd of sheep. Centrum99 (talk) 23:50, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources? Direct copy?

message: "The Dinaric race (or Adriatic race or Epirotic race) is one of the sub-categories of the Europid (White; Caucasian) race into which it was divided by physical anthropologists in the early 20th century. Such racial typologies have been increasingly criticized for several reasons, especially since the rise of molecular anthropology."
A funny statement, really, considering that genetics clearly showed that Dinaric highlanders are predominantly Slavicized Paleolithic autochthons, former bearers of the Gravettian culture.
Centrum99 (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Bully for them. Does being "Slavicized Paleolithic autochthons" makes them a race? I thought almost all Europeans are "Paleolithic autochthons". The French are Latinized Paleolithic autochthons. The British are Anglicized Paleolithic autochthons.... Paul B (talk) 17:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Dinarics are not a race, but an easily defined anthropological type. Centrum99 (talk) 23:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What I find especially funny is that molecular anthropology rather supports these racial typologies - because every distinct physical type developed due to a founder effect and long isolation. And this is clearly visible in DNA. If Dinarics were isolated much longer from their neighbours, they would inevitably developed into a separate race. I wonder, if authors copying these obsolete statements from the beginnings of population genetics actually check, what has changed in the meantime. Centrum99 (talk) 23:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Really no genetic basis?

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