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Talk:Mount Sarawaget

message: Just to clarify my recent changes to this and other related articles.
Previous revision of this Wikipedia article and Peakbagger  have a page for a peak named:
Mount Bangeta
elevation = 4,121 m
prominence = 1,681 m
coordinates = 6° 19' S  147° 5' E<
Previous revision of List of Ultras of Oceania and  Peaklist.org  list a peak as:
Mt. Sarawaget
elevation = 4,121 m
prominence = 1,701 m
coordinates = 06º18'39"S  147º05'24"E 
I have assumed these are the same peaks and have made the changes accordingly in my most recent edits. On this page, I have changed the prominence to 1,701 m for no other reason than I simply trust Peaklist more than Peakbagger. I have little objection to anyone who feels the need or a good reason to revert back to the previous prominence value. Thank you--Racerx11 (talk) 23:49, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mount Sarawaget
Talk:Great Tom

message: The circumstances of the bell and the circumstances of its tower belong together in any treatment that is truly encyclopedic. "Dictionary thinking" attempts to break each entity into its smallest parts and makes entries for each: dictionary thinking loses information that is gained in encyclopedic articles.  
What do you think? --Wetman 07:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Andrewa (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Encyclopedia vs dictionary

message: Not sure where these should go...
* http://www.ascy.org.uk/articles/great_tom_of_westminster.htm Great Tom of Westminster, retrieved 8 March 2012
* http://london.lovesguide.com/paul_cathedral_sw.htm Great Tom st St Pauls, retrieved 8 March 2012
We don't normall give references in a DAB, do we? Andrewa (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: References
Talk:Adam Rhodes

message: Can we have a reliable source please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.34 (talk) 13:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia doesn't discuss speculation; its standard is wikipedia:verifiability.  I've removed a reference to rumors. --TS 12:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return 

message: *AfterElton - Casting & Reception info here JuneGloom  Schmooze  00:38, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources
Talk:Atod

message: Copyright 2010 Atod AB
http://www.fastlanestreetracing.com/
213.67.3.59 (talk) 07:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fastline Street Racing 
Talk:Dylan Timmins

message: *Interview - Dylan, Sky and the baby - Archivelink - JuneGloom  Schmooze  20:57, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources
Talk:BlueSky Software

message: Apparently, BlueSky Software became eHelp (http://www.freshnews.com/news/computers-internet/article_16065.html?Blue+Sky+Software) and the got aquired by Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2003/ehelp/press_release.html)... Thats sad :( 201.170.30.73 (talk) 19:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current BlueSky Software
Talk:Edu-Ware

message: This article claims Eduware almost published On-Line Systems/Sierra On-Line's first game, Mystery House. The citation to this goes to fan site that claims Eduware advertised the game, but no primary sources are listed. It's documented the Williams took the game to Programma and Apple, but I've not seen claims about Eduware in the historical record. If no one can provide documentation, is the appropriate action to remove this as unsourced information? Sierra OffLine (talk) 18:52, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eduware/Sierra On-Line relationship?
Talk:In These Times (publication)

message: The article states 'During the 1980s In These Times won notoriety for its investigative reporting of the Iran-Contra scandal'. Notoriety infers disrepute or dishonour, assuming the magazine exposed the scandal using honourable investigative reporting, would ’won notoriety’ be better replaced with; 'was celebrated', 'was prominent',  'was distinguished, etc. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notoriety 

message: There is the unreferenced claim that ITT ran work of conservatives.  Perhaps the editor was referring to the work of John B. Judis.  He was an exception to the main trend of the writing, which as definitely left-wing or progressive.  Judis is a leftist that has gone to the center.  Reputedly, his work was published because of his friendship with publisher Weinstein.Dogru144 (talk) 02:31, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Conservatives?
Talk:Jeff Gerth

message: What the hell happened to this article? It looks as if the intro section was hit by a bomb and successive rounds of edits (some with a distinct hostile tone) were hastily picked up and mixed together into an incomprehensible mishmash. 
Desperately needs a re-edit. Rousse (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This entry appears vandalized 

message: We don't expect very many IPs to understand policies, so we usually just undo their policy-violating edits, but experienced editors like Mr Ernie know better, so we're looking at a clear NPOV and balance violation here. It's also a violation of our Preserve policy, which advises improvement, rather than deletion. NPOV says that opposing POV in RS are supposed to be documented for balance, thus they have due weight. We don't write hagiographies here.
The article currently presents a fringe POV with no mainstream commentary or rebuttal, and the fringe nature of Gerth's series is described well by the renowned [[Duncan Campbell]:
: "On 30 January 2023, the CJR published an immense four-part 23,000-word series on Trump, Russia and the US media. The CJR‘s writers found their magazine praised lavishly by normally rabid outlets. Fox News rejoiced that The New York Times had been “skewered by the liberal media watchdog the Columbia Journalism Review” over Russiagate”. WorldNetDaily called it a “win for Trump”."
According to Campbell, other RS are apparently on their way with commentary:
: "As with The Nation in 2017, the CJR is seeing a storm of derisive and critical evaluations of the series by senior American journalists. More assessments are said to be in the pipeline. “We’re taking the critiques seriously,” Pope said this week. The Columbia Journalism Review may now have a Russia Problem."
Right now we have Mother Jones, and I expect Mr Ernie to undo his policy-violating deletion. Feel free to improve it, but don't delete or censor it. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Valjean. The Gerth article needs to register some criticism of the CJR piece. Andre🚐 04:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Valjean. We should at the very least include secondary sources that show noteworthiness, and these shouldn't be self-published Substack posts. BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Saw the gleeful recitation of Fox talking points about Gereth's series on Valjean's talk page. Among other problems, Fox -- per Maslow's law pumped this up bigtime, and its followers are all over the right wing internet pushing it like the Durham, Barr, and other failed smoking-gun gotcha's.  Sadly they don't understand that publication, even in an established periodical such as CJR, does not confer absolute uncritical acceptance. That model is more out of the recent Republican mold. There's mounting scrutiny and criticsim of Gert's effort, and there is no reason to exclude such mainstream views from this page. SPECIFICO talk 02:23, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV, balance, and Preserve violations
Talk:FormGen

message: Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.230.209 (talk) 12:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Legends South

message: A request has been submitted to WikiProject Illinois for a new article to be created on the topic of Housing in Illinois. Please join the discussion or consider contributing to the new article. Best regards, -- M2545 (talk) 14:02, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Notification: [[Housing in Illinois]]
Talk:Gremlin Industries

message: Hello all. I saw that User:I am dis big brought up a concern about the sourcing specifically for the question of Gremlin Industries being changed to the shell corporation Ages Electronics.
This does bring up a general concern of the California Secretary of State website not being easily citable because it does not have hyperlinks. I had a look around and it doesn't seem like anybody has found a solution to this unless they cite the articles of incorporation directly. If anybody has a good idea of how to make it more solid then I'm
The concern is to whether the Ages Electronics can be directly linked to Gremlin Industries. I recently photographed a copy of the Gremlin good standing articles for California (see below) which shows that the incorporation date of Gremlin Industries is the exact same as Ages Electronics.
https://archive.org/details/19780505taitoaquisitiondocuments/page/n5
Likewise, the online articles for Ages Entertainment Software LLC show that the company was the originally incorporated entity of Sega Enterprises Inc. I think that evidence goes beyond circumstantial.
Regards  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AguyinaRPG (talk • contribs) 16:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the founding of Gremlin and renaming to Ages Electronics
Talk:Sam Adams Alliance

message: Despite BuenosAiresThe43rd's POV cleanup, there's a still a lot of revision to be done to this article to make it not read like PR. And let's not have it be partisan please. No unreasonably "for" or "against," just descriptive and also examining whether the organization meets its claims about itself. Right now the entire article is tipped in the direction of "for." Our goal should be to hold the organization to the same amount of scrutiny and indifference that any article about a person or organization receives. --199.76.163.34 (talk) 15:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:Advert 

message: The page is biased; we need someone who is interested in evaluating this group as an outsider who has no opposition.  Interesting that the term "libertarian" does not appear on the page when that is the simplest single word that describes the group. Lucifugous (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: I removed the "this articles needs reliable sources" tag after adding information about the group from a number of different daily newspapers including the New York Times.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BuenosAiresthe43rd (talk • contribs) 00:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources tag

message: I removed the unbalanced tag after making several edits to the article to try to clean up the situation that caused the tag to be placed on the article; namely, the information inserted about the allegations of a tie between this group and Rick Santelli.  The Playboy story that was used as the source for this section of the article has been removed from the Playboy website.  So has one other article on a significant website alluding to this controversy.  
While I was at it I also removed some material that seemed to be duplicative and re-wrote some sentences. 
I don't really know if any of the Rick Santelli information should remain in the article.  As it is, the way I left the article, a not-insignificant percentage of the article is taken up describing a controversy over something that seems to have been widely agreed had no foundation to begin with.  The fact that the allegations were made, and believed by some, may be a historically important part of this organization's story but then again there are starting to be balance issues in the article, with this taking up too much room.BuenosAiresthe43rd (talk) 01:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would favor removing the Rick Santelli material in its entirely. It serves no useful purpose in the article and Santelli's purported role in the organization is currently unsupported by any reputable source. -- Rydra Wong (talk) 13:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I think it's reasonable to take down the connection w/ Santelli if Playboy did. However, I think the larger Tea Party connection is of historical interest. -- Joshboyette (talk) 05:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: POV/unbalanced tag
Talk:Cain (disambiguation)

message: Cain of the bible is categorised as a real person. He is fictional 84.13.96.247 07:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 2007 

message: Applicable?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.70.150 (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Days of Cain (1997 novel)
Talk:LJN

message: Fixed the LGN typo in the criticism paragraph... there's a picture of the LJN logo... how can there be a typo so huge, oh well... - SaberJ2X  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.239.83 (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 
Talk:Urban Prep Academies

message: :Urban Prep Charter Academy for Young Men → Urban Prep Academies — Please move this page to Urban Prep Academies. Urban Prep Academies is the correct name of the organization described in this article. —NUwildcat09 (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The move has been completed per request.  I have also added a tag to place this article within the scope of the Schools Project.  EDitors who are editing this article may wish to look at the community standards and consensus regarding the format of articles, before pursuing too much editing which may be undone later.  I will try and help, if it is requested, or try and direct interested editors to help that they need.  Best of luck in editing! LonelyBeacon (talk) 20:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: The new infobox is a great addition to the article.  One option is to leave it as it is.  Another option:  take out everything from that box that does not represent the first campus, and add two smaller ones that represent the two other campuses.  I once came across an English boarding school that had a day school campus that was attached to the school, and it was handled that way for the separate campuses.  I don't think there is a consensus on which way to go, and I don't have a feeling either way.  Good luck to the editors here. LonelyBeacon (talk) 22:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox tip(?)

message: *Neely, Stephanie D. (Chicago city treasurer) "Success stories." (Letters) Chicago Tribune. April 3, 2012. 
WhisperToMe (talk) 06:24, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources
Talk:Loriciel

message: Seems to be duplicating some information there, maybe better represented in a table? Govvy (talk) 15:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of games, 

message: I see that these are not enumerated in the article, unlike the other platforms. You can see a list here . Note "MIA" means "missing in action" (nobody can find a copy of it) so some of these seem to be rather obscure releases. I do remember playing the excellent Bumpy. Equinox ◑ 16:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ZX Spectrum releases
Talk:Chiles en nogada

message: The article can use some more references. I removed this one as it was to a Spanish-language source:  Geoff Who, me?  23:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. I suppose I have Frieda Kahlo on the brain! Just edit the name ("first=Freda") within the reference in Edit view.  It's true that editing beyond plain text is not easy. That's one of the major complaints about the user interface: where the WYSIWIG editor? Cheers, mate! Geoff Who, me?  22:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I've removed these proposed additions from the article here to be further discussed. I did not find that the references supported the facts and I had some concerns about the editor adding references which appear to be sourced in their own work, suggestive of possible original research.
:* The nuts are rumored to represent the politicos of the day. Lawson Gray and Lahl (2013). Celebraciones Mexicanas: History, Traditions and History 
:* This story is of a special meal for Agustin de Iturbide, a military commander who fought in Mexico’s War of Independence, and later proclaimed himself Emperor of Mexico (from 1822 to 1823). In August of 1821, he signed what was to be the most important document in the country’s history, the Treaty of Córdoba which granted Mexico its independence from Spain. After signing the treaty in Veracruz, Iturbide traveled to Mexico City, stopping on the way in the town of Puebla. There, the locals decided to hold a feast to celebrate the country’s independence, and to honor Iturbide.Lawson Gray (August 28 2016) MyMission:Tastes of San Francisco Seasonal Specialty Chiles en Nogada. 
:* and may also include apples, pears, peaches, raisins, olives, almonds, pine nuts, plantains, and acitron (caramelized cactus leaves). The modern version combines meat or chicken with the fruit. Lawson Gray (August 28 2016) MyMission:Tastes of San Francisco Seasonal Specialty Chiles en Nogada
:*This coincides with El Grito and the Mexico's Independence Day celebrations, September 15-16th. 
Please discuss further. Thanks, Geoff |  Who, me? 21:26, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested additions - removed to Talk page
Talk:Thomas E. Knight

message: Hey, sorry if this isn’t the proper formatting. My copy of The Last of the Scottsboro Boys has his name as Thomas G. Knight (not E.). Which is correct?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:648:8303:2640:DD3E:1D9B:4797:5243 (talk) 10:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Espora-class corvette

message: Please note that I've uploaded this article with aprox 70% of the info I intend to convey in the final version. Its layout is based on the one used in the "ARA Almirante Brown (D-10)" argentinian destroyer (frigatte) class.
Will upload the remaining info for the "Specifications" section ideally on 2007-07-17. It will be more detailed than the one in the "infobox".
DPdH 08:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've added a section to deal with references; will add online citations as soon as possible during this month. Regards, DPdH (talk) 00:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and citations 

message: In the article related to the João Coutinho class corvette is is said that the "MEKO 140" (hence, the Espora class) is based on that design. I'll look for additional sources supporting that fact, and will modify this article accordingly. Regards, DPdH (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to the "João Coutinho" class 

message: oppose This article is about a specific class of ships in service, as known by the user (Argentine Navy), while the other (MEKO 140) is about a project (and its derivatives) and its techgnical characteristics (modularity, etc), as known to the builder (Blohm & Voss).  Kind regards, DPdH (talk) 05:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with ''MEKO 140'' article 
Talk:Thalamus Ltd

message: Years ago I remember having a game on my c64 called Parallax. It involved you flying a ship through a parallax graphics bass-relief landscape in 360%, you could even get out of your ship. I'm sure it was done by Thalamus; does anyone know this game at all?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.90.232.145 (talk) 13:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parallax
Category talk:Primary schools in Singapore

message: I have just embarked on a cleanup of articles in the category,as well as  Secondary_schools_in_Singapore. I notices the common problem is that many have huge long lists of courses or CCA's offered, which I do not believe are very necessary nor encyclopaedic. I have seen several good or featured articles on schools which will describe the achievements or special features, and so these are considered acceptable. I have deleted the unadorned lists without touching any prose which is related to CCA. 
There has also been the tendency of editors to include items such as school's philosophy, mission statements, vision statements and strategic goals. I believe these to be highly promotional texts. In most cases, they have also been removed. 
Paragraphs within mottos and crests sections may also be promotional, but I have left these alone. Ohconfucius 03:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intra-category cleanup
Talk:Vectorbeam

message: Just wanted to note that "Space Wars" and "Space War", though identical in game play, were actually two different machines.  "Space Wars" was put out by Cinematronics, however when Larry Rosenthal left to for Vectorbeam, he took his design and resold it as Space War", so for a while both machines were being manufactured with different cabinets under different companies, but were the same game.  Here's the KLOV links to the individual games:
Space War by Vectorbeam: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=13027
Space Wars by Cinematronics: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9691
Fragholio (talk) 04:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Space War/Space Wars
Category talk:Secondary schools in Singapore

message: I have just embarked on a cleanup of articles in the category, as well as  Primary_schools_in_Singapore. I notices the common problem is that many have huge long lists of courses or CCA's offered, which I do not believe are very necessary nor encyclopaedic. I have seen several good or featured articles on schools which will describe the achievements or special features, and so these are considered acceptable. I have deleted the unadorned lists without touching any prose which is related to CCA. 
There has also been the tendency of editors to include items such as school's philosophy, mission statements, vision statements and strategic goals. I believe these to be highly promotional texts. In most cases, they have also been removed. 
Paragraphs within mottos and crests sections may also be promotional, but I have left these alone. Ohconfucius 03:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intra-category cleanup
Talk:Bedford College (University of London)

message: I'm sure the merger was in 1984?  I was there at the time!  I will check.... --Ndaisley 08:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - on reflection what happened was that most of the people I knew (in various languages departments) made the move in that previous year. Meanwhile the Classical Archaeology Department (I think there were three of us students!) moved to UCL in the next year. Formally, the final merger was in 1985. --Ndaisley 09:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Oregon Bicycle Racing Association

message: If we're going to include a list of notable former members, there need to be clear criteria for what establishes sufficient notability. In the absence of any other standard, existence of WP articles is what we need to fall back on. (Unless someone believes that we should include all former members...) -Pete (talk) 05:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there's a dispute about whether the full list should be included, I went ahead and Wikilinked all the entries. I'm stashing the ones with els here to be used as refs for writing the needed articles. I suppose we should have a statute of limitations for how long we wait before the redlinks are removed? Katr67 (talk) 18:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for doing all that Katr. The redlinks can be removed at any time by anyone who thinks they don't belong, but I'm personally willing to wait a week or so before doing anything like that. -Pete (talk) 18:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  p.s. Pretty sure a lot of the NON-red links are pointing to similarly-named people who are actually not former OBRA members. -Pete (talk) 18:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Katr67 (talk) 20:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  former members 
Talk:Lord Carlisle

message: Why does this page redirect to the wrongly-spelt Lord Carlile? I would understand it if there were no Lord Carlisles, but there is (was) at least one: Mark Carlisle.
If you want Lord Carlile listed as Lord Carlisle, could we at least have a disambiguation page instead?
Rachel Pearce 08:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled