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Talk:Ivan Shamiakin

message: This article needs to use italics and other such WP:Style considerations. Davodd 00:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Wonderwall (film)

message: This seems like a question the article should address. Sylvain1972 19:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a wall between Oscar's apartment and Penny's. There was light pouring through a hole in that wall, and Oscar saw "wonders" through it (scenarios between Penny and her photographer boyfriend). Zephyrad (talk) 04:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: WTF is a "wonderwall"?

message: really? in a movie with beatles' ties, and not a PEEP about this particular choice of name?! 216.50.220.9 (talk) 06:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Penny Lane?!
Talk:Thistle (dinghy)

message: I like the idea of showing the class logo. I have noticed that most other sailing class articles in en.wikipedia do not have the class logo. The one recently posted is a little rough looking. I have a really spiffy vector graphics version I can post when I have a minute. Also, somebody needs to fix the layout or fix my browser. There is a big blank area to the left of the specs. The font on the specs is too small. Mrees1997 00:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Class badge

message: Deleted reference to "cold" molded construction. Cold molded construction is done with epoxy. Wood Thistles were always glued with, I think, resorcinol, or some other such glue, and heated in an oven. Definately not cold molding. Cold molding has been talked about for Thistle construction, but I don't think it will ever be approved by the class. A cold molded Thistle would be too stiff, so GRP and old wooden Thistles would no longer be competative. I have a box of Bagpipes going back to about 1978, and have read about this stuff. I could dig them out and put in some citations. Or, I could spend my free time sailing my Thistle. Hmmm. Mrees1997 00:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cold vs. Hot molded 

message: The fact that Great Midwest delivered Thistle #4000 does not mean that 4000 Thistles have been made. I am sure that a number of them have fallen through the cracks as hull numbers were divvied up between the builders over the years. There is a list of known Thistle hull numbers in the Green Book. Maybe somebody should look at that and figure out how many were really made. Mrees1997 00:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  4000 Thistles 
Talk:Cedd

message: Why is Cedd listed as a "Roman Catholic" missionary/bishop? The article itself surely makes it clear that he was never happy with his return to the Roman tradition, and he is an important figure in the Celtic tradition of the north of England. Hackloon 00:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I wrote this stub I did not clasify it. I will point out that Cedd did not "return" to the Roman tradition. He did however adopt the Roman tradition after Whitby. He was sent as a missonary bishop to Mercia, though this predated Whitby according to Bede. 
Joe Dixon (13.4.2006}
Cedd was a Bishop of the universal church. He had died before the split between east and west in 671. pw123
Cedd survived the Synod of Whitby by only a few months, being succeeded as abbot of Lastingham by his brother Chad. There is no real evidence that he ever actually adopted Roman practices or norms in that short period, nor that he didn't, apart from a bald statement by Bede. Certainly Chad continued to flout them, seeking episcopal ordination from bishops who were not themselves recognized as apostolic by Rome, and Bede quite clearly tells us that Chad continued the traditions he had received from Cedd. Whether you call Cedd and Chad Catholic, Orthodox, Roman or Celtic will largely depend on your own theological and political loyalties. The same goes for when you date the East/West schism.Sjwells53 19:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: RC?

message: The article List of bishops of London links here, listing Cedd as the second post-Augustinian bishop of London.  Is this the same person?  Why is this position not mentioned here?  Rojomoke 22:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably an oversight. Bede says he was consecrated "Bishop of the East Saxons", as does this article. That seems to be assumed, on what grounds I don't know, to be the same thing as "Bishop of London". The Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England entry for Cedd is here. Of the thirteen references to him as a bishop, two I can't check, and ten say "of the East Saxons", leaving only one which definitely says "of London". Angus McLellan  (Talk) 22:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated link:  -- Jheald (talk) 21:31, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bishop of London? 

message: Just wondering how Cedd's name is pronounced - is the C a K sound or a S sound Kissmaiden (talk) 08:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They pronounce it with a sibilant when invoking him at Lastingham, but that's not authoritative. It might be Ch. Incidentally, I'm not sure the plague of the late 7th century was bubonic.Sjwells53 (talk) 09:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation
Talk:Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry

message: How much of the final film was Boyd's original & how much is Nicholson's?  Eli Cross 07:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh?? No one by those last names were involved in this film according to the Info Box. THX1136 (talk) 00:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "Sam! Rewrite!"

message: I deleted this:
:"The specific helicopter (tail number N20DB) was often leased to film production companies, and has appeared onscreen in many different movies (and in many different paint schemes), including The Towering Inferno (as a corporate helicopter in the beginning of the film) and on the TV series, "The Rockford Files" (as yet another sheriff's helicopter). It was also used as an aerial camera platform for many more films in the 1970's, among these Earthquake (1974) and Midway (1976).  The JetRanger was involved in a double fatality crash in 1984 when it collided with power lines during a flight (not while filming), but is still flying today. []"
as OT. If somebody wants it for a page on helos in film...  TREKphiler hit me ♠  23:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut & print

message: Both on screen and on the posters, the title is "Dirty Mary Crazy Larry" with no comma. So technically, you currently have the title wrong.2604:6000:6D41:D700:C166:930F:D2CE:DEB7 (talk) 21:20, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No comma on IMDb either. --Meve Stills (talk) 03:17, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

text: I just tried to move it, but there's already a redirect from "Dirty Mary Crazy Larry", and the page that describes how to request that an admin move it is far too complicated for me to care. --Meve Stills (talk) 03:25, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title
Talk:Anna (Go to Him)

message: The "head cold" comment and the passive voice ("can be heard") comment doesn't improve the article. It's uncited, for starters, and WP:OR. We don't have a non-head cold studio version for comparison, and AFAIK no professional reviewer has mentioned that Lennon's voice sounds affected by his head cold. There is verifiable evidence that he had a cold but that's different. The opinion formed by what a WikiPedia editor based on what he/she hears is irrelevant in most cases. If the comment stays it should be supported by a citation and the sentence improved. Personally, I'd remove it, but I've done that once already and I don't care enough to keep doing so. John Cardinal 03:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head cold 

message: There's an episode of "Married With Children" in which this song is the leit motiv. I think this should be included in the article.  
http://www.tv.com/married-with-children/oldies-but-young-uns/episode/28882/summary.html
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.164.164.164 (talk) 07:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added back in the episode to this article, including a citation to reliable source that I hope is sufficient for it to stick. I understand some editors here are frustrated by garbage being dumped into Popular culture sections. I am no fan of such things. However, if there is one legitimate popular cultural reference to this song then it's the Married with Children episode. MwC was a hugely popular show. This episode was at the height of its popularity. A lot of people saw it. I would presume many fans of the show now search for this song in an attempt to refresh their memory of a funny episode now more than a quarter century old. And like Al Bundy many may not be sure of the correct title, even after seeing it. He was humming "hmmm, hmmm, him" the whole time afterall. In fact, the idea of a song title, that is different than its hook, escaping one's memory, is part of the joke. It's not unreasonable to assume at least some readers of this page suffer similar uncertainties, which are immediately cleared when seeing the 'In popular culture' section. 68.187.249.27 (talk) 22:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

text: Well said! MBG02 (talk) 16:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural references 
Talk:Chains (Cookies song)

message: While the Cookies were Little Eva's back-up group, to their and her glory, to identify them as such is a little misleading. The Cookies (version 2, the Dimension label singers) were everybody's back-up group: e.g. Neil Sedaka's, Tony Bennett's, Eydie Gorme's, Mel Torme's, just to name a few. Before the Sweet Inspirations and Blossoms came along, they were it--who you got if you needed back-up. Furthermore, in addition to "Chains" they recorded under their own names (and pseudonyms) as well, their sublime "Don't say nothin' bad about my baby" charting at #3 in the USA. To devote more space to the Beatles' cover is a little strange, too, although kudos to them for recognizing the good stuff and maybe pushing some royalties and extra sales  the Cookies' way. Jackaroodave (talk) 01:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Little Eva's backing singers"?
Talk:Ask Me Why

message: I have made a few small changes based on information in Mark Lewisohn's authoritative (and massive) Beatles biography "All These Years".  
* The June 6, 1962 session was in studio 2, not 3.
* It was not an audition as the Beatles were already signed to an EMI contract - this has been part of the legend for many years but Lewisohn cites definitive documentation establishing it as false.
* Added drummer information to the individual recording sessions.
There is another issue I am not sure how to resolve.  Lewisohn in "All These Years" contradicts the current statement that "Tip of My Tongue" and "Ask Me Why" were both under consideration to be recorded at the Nov. 26 session, as "Ask Me Why" was already decided as the B-side for "Please Please Me" ("All These Years" volume 1 ext. ed., p 1462), and therefore "Tip of My Tongue" was only played during rehearsal at Martin's request to check on the song's development (ibid p. 1478).  
The difficulty I am having is in not knowing which specific facts the current citation for this section of the article supports (or contradicts) as I do not have access to the work referenced (Ian MacDonald, "Revolution in the Head" 2nd ed.).  Rather than rewrite it entirely without using the MacDonald reference, perhaps another editor can help resolve this conflict? --Threephi (talk) 00:00, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few changes
Talk:Do You Want to Know a Secret

message: If this song reached #2 in the US, why wasn't it on the Red Album? Certainly that meant it was highly popular. It's also very well-known.67.188.172.165 23:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not on Red Album

message: The Internet isn't much help in determining whether the correct title of this song does or does not have a question mark in it, and I can't find my copy of the LP, but any images of the back cover seem to show it without the punctuation. Not sure.
:The original album cover has it without the question mark. --Patthedog 19:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The CD cover and disc have no "?". The discography in Lewisohn's "The Beatles Recording Sessions" on page 200 has no "?", nor does any other mention in it, including the "Recording Sheet" written at the session. I think the evidence is clear: no "?". John Cardinal 19:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add more fun to this, I agree that there's no "?" -- but the Americans couldn't make up their minds!  The Vee-Jay Introducing the Beatles label has no question mark, but the cover does; the 45 rpm single of "Do You Want to Know a Secret" has no "?" on the label, but it does have one on the picture sleeve; the original sheet music has a "?". The Capitol re-releases from 1965 all have no question mark, though. Cheemo 03:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny thing is that the sleeve cover that illustrates this article has the "?" Bedivere (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punctuation 

message: It sounds as if George sang a version where lines ended "I'm in love with you", whereas Billy J's version sounds like "I ain't in love with you".  Could this possibly be a reference either to him not rating the song (at first, anyway) or, possibly, to his manager, Epstein, who'd taken him to New York City on a reconnaisance visit even before The Beatles landed there in February 1964?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.246.152 (talk) 16:56, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between George Harrison and Billy J Kramer versions? 

message: During the radio 2 recreation of the LP's recording, Stuart Maconie said that the song was about Lennon being asked to keep his marriage secret. That's the first I've heard of that; is there a citation somewhere? If so, it would seem worth adding to the page.
Apepper (talk) 15:20, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Lennon's marriage 
Talk:A Taste of Honey (song)

message: I want more about the song and less about the Beatles and the song. It was covered by them, not an original.
:Do something about it then.--Patthedog 07:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the song, and the version by The Beatles is as valid as any other. The lack of contents for other versions is no reason to delete notable content for their version. Add information about the other versions. John Cardinal (talk) 03:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: To include infoboxes for every recorded version would be impractical and superfluous, though it seems reasonable to include the one by Herb Albert because of its much greater notability, since that's the version that won a Grammy, etc.  If anything, we should include a bunch of Tony Bennett info before we include Beatles info.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petershank (talk • contribs) 15:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems more like a plug for the Beatles. 

message: The article begins by saying the title "may have been inspired by the 1958 English play A Taste of Honey which reached Broadway in 1960." "May have been" is probably overcautious. In fact, Bobby Scott composed the music for the 1960 David Merrick Broadway production, according to a reissue of the album, combined with another Scott album, on Collectables COL CD 6407. This CD includes three instrumental versions of the song, credited solely to Scott. If someone knows how lyrics were added, and whether they were written by Ric Marlow or by Marlow and Scott, it would be interesting.
Also, with all due respect to Patthedog, I'd love to know how this came to the attention of the Beatles.
David Fell (talk) 05:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: McCartney says that he was introduced to this “slightly left and right of rock and roll” music by his older cousin, Bett Robbins, when she would baby sit him and his brother, probably early  to mid ‘50’s. This sort of stuff appealed to McCartney, but definitely not to Lennon. It later came into its own when Epstein was able to “upgrade” their gigs to cabaret. When Acker Bilk had a UK hit with an instrumental version in January,1963, it was decided to include it on the Please Please Me album.--Patthedog (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on song origin 

message: Someone should add one. I don't know enough about the song to do so. Cubzrule (talk) 07:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Beatles infobox
Talk:There's a Place

message: There is no 'Credit' section as there are for the other songs on 'Please Please Me'.
64.184.0.174 03:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Credits now in place. Again, as in “Love Me Do”, I don’t think George Harrison sings on this, but MacDonald gives him a credit. Any views on this anyone?--Patthedog 13:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I’m wrong here. Just listened to some outtakes and it’s clear Harrison joins McCartney to do the Aaaah’s behind Lennon during the “like I love only you” bit. Very dodgy BTW though!--Patthedog 17:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits? 

message: Quite a lot of hogwash talked in the opening paragraph here.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.213.233 (talk) 00:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP comment 

message: Removed the parenthetical "Lennon low, McCartney high", as the information is precisely stated a few sentences earlier. --Daveler16 (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harmonies
Talk:It Won't Be Long

message: The article points out the word play around 'long.' Memorizing the lyrics, I noticed that each verse begins with 'every.' Would it be original research to add this to the article? I do know it's a great mnemonic for memeorization!
M4nd0 (talk) 23:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research?
Talk:All I've Got to Do

message: After a rewrite today, I think it's fair to say this isn't a stub anymore. I'm less confident its risen to "B", but I don't see any major missing sections or any of the other characteristics of a "Starter" article. Self-assessed, though, so other editors should chime in. John Cardinal 13:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-Assessed as "B"
Talk:Don't Bother Me

message: Paul is apparently playing a wood block, because it doesn't give the high-pitched sound that is so characteristic of claves. If somebody can find a verifiable source to substantiate this, please insert it into the article, but just be careful of Beatles eBooks, because that website has a large number of absurd claims.
60.240.8.249 (talk) 09:25, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claves
Talk:Till There Was You

message: if you comare this song with like... michael jackson it is really not the same.
Pilmccartney (talk) 07:56, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Wiki libs (talk) 13:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  You better change it to "acoustic rock" or "acoustic pop" 

message: This, and the page for "the Music Man" states that the first recording of "till there was you" to be released was produced by Nelson Riddle, featuring his orchestra and 17-year-old vocalist Sue Raney.  But there is no mention of it on Sue Raney's page ....? ExpatSalopian (talk) 19:01, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First recording
Talk:Hold Me Tight

message: What more is there to say about this song?  Wasted Time R 14:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why "stub class"?

message: There's a significant distinction between this track and "Wait" in that "Hold Me Tight" was completely re-recorded for the second album, whereas "Wait" had the same basic track and only received some overdubs. As such, the text is misleading about the relationship between the two songs. I hope to see this changed, and if not, I guess I'll do something myself! MicroProf 21:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the reason that both of these songs get special mention is because authors such as Lewisohn and MacDonald single them out. I suppose they both must have come pretty close to inclusion on the previous albums. Mind you, we’re talking UK (Parlophone) here. The Beatles and George Martin had no say in America where Capitol would hold back tracks turning two albums into three. I take your point however, and perhaps it should just say that “Hold Me Tight” had been attempted before and leave out the bit regarding “Wait”?--Patthedog 08:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not talking about US albums either. I think the solution you offer is a good one. Thanks for responding! MicroProf 23:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the same as "Wait" 
Talk:You've Really Got a Hold on Me

message: This song is "You Really Got a Hold on Me", not "You've Really Got a Hold on Me". Cite "Revolution in the Head" and any number of other places. Notice that even in other Web pages that incorrectly say "You've", where there are lyrics, the lyrics include "You Really" and not "You've Really". Alpha Ralpha Boulevard 21:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is primarily about the original version by The Miracles, and it was indeed named "You've Really Got a Hold on Me". The version by the Beatles was misnamed, but the article should remain as it was and so I reverted it. John Cardinal 02:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page is Mistitled

message: Before I really learnt to tell the difference between the individual Beatles' vocals, I used to have real trouble distinguishing John's voice from George's. I would often mistake George for John. But as time went on I discovered that George's vocal was usually a tiny bit deeper and smoother, not as scratchy as John's vocal sometimes is. C.Syde (talk | contribs) 23:46, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Harrison or John Lennon? 

message: According to this site http://www.pfunkportal.com/recordings/3529 the original version by the Miracles features the following musicians:
*Marv Tarplin, Eddie Willis – guitar 
*Joe Hunter – piano*
*James Jamerson – bass
*Benny Benjamin – drums*
*Unknown musicians – saxophones
* denotes unconfirmed credits
Tarplin, Willis and Jamerson are all confirmed credits, while Benjamin and Hunter are unconfirmed. The saxophonists are unknown, but this is me using my original research (which, as I know, is against Wikipedia policy), but I'm convinced that the saxophone parts are played by Henry Cosby and Mike Terry, as the saxophone lines at the time were typically played by Cosby and Terry. I'm also well aware of the talk page guidelines, too, and I'm not intending to start a WP:FORUM here, just trying to get consensus on whether or not someone might actually care about this information, I don't think the source I gave is a reliable source, anybody got a better source, possibly a source that also mentions Cosby and Terry?--2601:153:881:3D60:55CF:CB7B:9FDC:3B08 (talk) 06:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musicians on the original Miracles version