Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine/Archive 2

message: If your WikiProject aims primarily to replace the more-or-less defunct "WikiProject Medical Conditions" than that should be your parent project.   At least that old project is physically in existence.  How can you reference a project as your parent, that does not even exist? -- John Gohde 20:04, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying our project is illegitimate? at this stage probably better illigitimate than an orphan.  --Erich gasboy 21:11, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I am suggesting that you try clicking on WikiProject Health Science and Wikipedia:WikiProject Medical Conditions.  Which site provides the most information? -- John Gohde 21:32, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: a good point! I agree with JFW's original placement of this project as a subproject of health. I think you'll find the valuable stuff will be pulled of the old dead page inshallah. --e
I think Clinical medicine replaces Medical conditions, and it probably better described as a heir than a bastard or an orphan. Medical conditions also has a much more limited scope, as it would—for example—not span seperate pages about diagnostic testing.<BR>
WikiProject Health Science is not very active; the whole use of "Health science" as a parent for all these medical issues might benefit from a serious review.<BR>
As stated on John's talk page, this project is certainly not meant to clash with the new CAM WikiProject. If anything, I think cross-pollination is more to everyone's benefit than continuous bickering.<BR>JFW | T@lk 21:45, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Parentage

message: The Project page is rather boring and still lacks the stuff we discussed when WikiDoc had just appeared on the scene. Is anybody willing to adapt that material for the project? I've reshaped this page to resemble our old doctors' mess. <BR>JFW | T@lk 12:48, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: funny you should say that, I was just thinking about mate (ex cardiac surgeon) in the Midlands who i was going to email... mind you i spend enough time in the company of surgeons! ;-) --e 21:06, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

text: not as far as I know... e 06:50, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help the page assume shape 

message: for those of all of us interested in boxes, worth watching User:AlexR/Article_series_boxes e --Erich gasboy 17:16, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. <BR>JFW | T@lk 13:11, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boxes 

message: Hey Nunh-huh! err well that surgeon from MASH played by Alan Alda is one of my role models... as is the hologram from Star Trek, but er not sure if this is the right project.... --e 23:29, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: They sound fictional enough to me<G>.  You gotta admire a series that lasts longer than the war it's based on... - Nunh-huh 01:52, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  fictional doctors 

message: (cut and paste from erich's list)
*how do we accomodate multiple audiences?... just thinking...--e 
*Considering recent opposition to featured article nominations of medical topics it seems to be worthwhile to think about creating mutually linked and parallel versions like Diabetes mellitus and Patient information on diabetes mellitus. IMO Editorial approaches in articles aimed at patients and scientific articles are disparate.  Kpjas 07:58, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  who is our audience? 

message: ::cardiac arrest which is also called clinical death is an absence of systole
is the above statement utter rubbish or is it just me?
::Nah, I think the phrase "clinical death" is even stupider than "clinical depression" and would predict 99.9% of the use of the phrase is by nonphysicians. What does the word "clinical" add to "death"? Heck I don't even think gasboy is "utter rubbish"-- he's being a bit too hard on hisself. Alteripse 02:40, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: such kindness. I don't think you're utter rubbish either Alteripse! I'll zap 'clinical death' if no one has heard of it then. interesting the death page mentions it as well... mmmm... e 13:39, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

text: I guess cardiac arrest can be defined as the absense of systole. (effective systole better?) I'm not sure how they got clinical death in there...  The page on death has a nice definition of death, by the way. :-) Ksheka 02:08, May 16, 2004 (UTC)
thanks! e 02:15, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  clinical death (quickie)