Talk:UEFA Super Cup

message: What do people think the best way to date the European Super Cup is? I noticed on Liverpool players such as Steven Gerrard that the 2001 European Super Cup was said to have been won in the 2001/2002 season. (Liverpool won the UEFA Cup in the 2000/2001 season).
As such, I dated their recent Super Cup win as occurring in the 2005/2006 season (they won the Champions League in the 2004/2005 season), although someone changed it to being the 2004/2005 season for the Super Cup.
The more I think of it, the more I think it should probably just be listed as the single year in which the Super Cup took place (so the most recent Super Cup would be called 2005, rather than 2004/2005, or 2005/2006). That seems to be in keeping with the dates in this particular article. However, I don't know whether UEFA has any specific dating/naming for the year/season the cup took place. Does anyone know? KeithD (talk) 22:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Date format

message: When Ajax won this trophy in 1972 & 1973 there was an altogether different trophy which must hve preceded the plaque, this trophy was huge, bigger than either the UEFA cup or even the European Champions Cup.  So there have been more than three trophies to represent this honour.  I have pictures of this trophy if needed
Gaffer77 (talk) 09:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  trophies 

message: This is a small thing.  In the records and statistics section, the link to Milan leads to the city of Milan, not A.C. Milan.  I'm not really sure how to change that, but somebody can.  Thanks! 75.87.249.123 (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link in Records and Statistics 

message: Hello, please add UEFA Super Cup prize money, because is very important. All other european football competitions and fifa world cup have prize money in wikipedia. Thank you. Beratademaj21 (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello 

message: Please change the linked team in the year 1986 from FC Fcsb to CSA Steaua București, FC Fcsb it's not Steaua Bucuresti. There have been 20+ trials that just proves this club (FC Fcsb) is not Steaua Bucharest, they don't have the name, the palmares(history), nothing and they are founded in 2003. --CristiCristii (talk) 12:16, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not Done: at present, UEFA still links the 1986 wins to the FCSB entity: the Super Cup entry only talks about "Steaua", but the European Cup page shows the FCSB badge, and the entity is given 'title points' for that win at the coefficients table page. Until UEFA disassociate FCSB from the achievements of Steaua in that era, it won't be changed here either. Crowsus (talk) 14:52, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The decision is not definitive yet. FCSB still owns the record from 1947 to present. CSA has the name. That's definitive only so far.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F0F:301A:E400:D851:4F4B:99DE:6C0 (talk) 14:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2020 

message: It might an irrelevant issue but what is the order shown in the performances table? I changed (sorry I didn't ask anyone for it) Juventus with Valencia because Juventus latest title was before Valencia's one and if that is not the "rule", Chelsea should be above Bayern Munich... XMillennium94x (talk) 20:00, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of the performances table 

message: Rangers were runners up in the first Super Cup Final in 1972.  Scotland should be updated to show one runner up 129.127.145.239 (talk) 05:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 05:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: 1972 was not official edition, and is not recognised by UEFA, check official website. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:29, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2022 

message: CHANGE in the "Throphy" section:
 It was designed and manufactured at the Bertoni workshop in Milan. 
TO
 It was designed by italian sculptor Silvio Gazzaniga and manufactured at the Bertoni workshop in Milan. 
SOURCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Gazzaniga Damianobonazzi (talk) 09:40, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Another Wikipedia page cannot be used as a source, provide a reliable source for those changes. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2023 

message: change
It was designed and manufactured at the Bertoni workshop in Milan
to
It was designed by Silvio Gazzaniga and manufactured at the Bertoni workshop in Milan
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Gazzaniga
https://www.silviogazzaniga.com/
https://www.instagram.com/silviogazzaniga/ Damianobonazzi (talk) 13:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Damianobonazzi Please provide WP:SECONDARY reliable source that is WP:INDEPENDENT of the subject. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2023 

message: the current champions league trophy holders are Man City, not Real Madrid. 85.200.239.2 (talk) 13:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The sentence is clearly talking about super cup holders and not CL holders, everything is fine. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong info 

message: The lead says that the UEFA Super Cup "It is not recognised as one of UEFA's major competitions." and gives two sources for it. The first source, speaking of Tottenham's chances on the UEFA Champions League says:
Only five sides have lifted all three major club trophies – Tottenham could make it six.
The second source mentions the following:
Up-to-date booking lists – including the latest player suspensions – are available here for the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League, the continent's two major club competitions.
Why not call it a major trophy since the source calls it that way? Nxavar (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Where do you see the sources calling it that way? Both sources are literally calling the Champions League, Europa League and Cup Winners' Cup as the "UEFA's major club competitions", and not Super Cup. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. My mistake. Nxavar (talk) 06:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major trophy 

message: Why only picture is a Barcelona player hanging a trophy if Milan got it first an Madrid got the same and first in a row? 2A02:9130:9434:E305:17BC:2658:E69E:5853 (talk) 02:55, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: * Most wins by player: Mateo Kovacic and Nacho (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacho_(footballer,_born_1990)) are missing with also 4 wins
It needs to be added "Most wins with different clubs by player" similar to "Most wins with different clubs by coach" 
* Most wins with different clubs by player: Mateo Kovacic (three clubs), with Real Madrid (2016, 2017), Chelsea (2021) Manchester City (2023) Catbayarea (talk) 22:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are right, done. --Mishary94 (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Unsourced additions will be removed, do not use WP:OR for records, UEFA doesn't list Nacho and Kovacic as 4-time winners, see source Snowflake91 (talk) 10:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  The necessary sources have been added. On the UEFA website, it was not mentioned that Kovacic and Nacho win four titles, because they did not participate in all of them, but in Wikipedia policies, according to the community discussion, the title is credited to the player only if he is called up, see the discussion here. Not mentioning a statistic by UEFA does not mean denying it. Kovacic won with three different clubs (this was proven by sources from the official websites of the three clubs). Please, do not retrieve the edit until you have used the talk page first. --Mishary94 (talk) 12:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Per that (rejected) proposal by the community, the verdict is "Consensus is clear that supercups should not be included in a player's trophy count if they were not called up for the match". So no, Nacho did not win it 4 times regarldess of what the biased primary source (Real Madrid website) says, he was in the squad 4 times and won it 3 times (2016, 2017, 2022, lost in 2018), so you are literally contradicting yourself and your own policies by adding this, it will be removed on sight. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're right, thanks for your edit. --Mishary94 (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2024