Template talk:User Ireland Irish

message: All other countries in Europe and UK have individual names, so I suggest we rename this to User RepIreland, and change the flag to the tricolour, rather than try and create an "all ireland" one, which would be very tricky and non consistent with the rest.
This is in keeping with the other user boxes (i.e. non overlapping regions)
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Comments? MartinRe 12:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. Ireland is a cultural entity embracing diverse political and religious traditions. There is no reason why "User Ireland" has to be aligned with any one nation-state, or model itself on the likes of "Proud English". It has only to be itself. -- Picapica 12:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment User Ireland is used as a <B>location</b>, not culture. In that sense User Ireland makes as much sense as having "user Iberian Peninsula", which also covers several countries. User Irish would be the ancestory userbox. MartinRe 12:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment If kept as a location, User Ireland should be outline of island, and a new one created for User Rep Ireland. Right now, there is no userbox for someone to say they live in the republic of ireland, the only country in europe for which that is true! MartinRe 13:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Comment: Well, I was reacting to the invitation "You can add this userbox to your user page" in the Active Irish Wikipedians section of the Wikipedia:Irish Wikipedians' notice board. Perhaps I should have read it in more detail: I didn't realize there were all sorts of (how necessary?) residency qualifications and class distinctions involved in being an Irish Wikipedian... And, anyway, what is wrong with a User Iberia category (or User Scandinavia, User Polynesia, etc. etc.) if that is what any users want?-- Picapica 13:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment I think the userbox request is confusing on that page. User Ireland was listed as a location, but used as a culture. I think it's more correct to have "User Irish" as the usebox to show culture (but the icon on that needs to be more neutral). I've no problem with User Ireland as a location in the iberia style, I would just worry that it might get mixed up as a culture reference again. MartinRe 13:28, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I like the idea of the map (as it's the ideal non ambigious picture of the location it refers to) It is getting a little confusing with all the variants, though, we have user Ireland/NI/RepIreland/Irish/Proud Irish. To me, the first three are location, the latter are cultural/nationality. Then again, the confusion isn't only in Ireland, User England is described as "comes from England", but adds the user to English people (which is what I though user english and user proud english were for! I think it would have been nice to have separate userboxes to show where you're from and what nationality you are, but I see no easy way of making the user boxes consistent without a great deal of work, which is hard to justify for userboxes. MartinRe 23:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with MartinRe (I think - I'm getting a little confused here!): a straightforward outline of the island is all we need (and certainly not a map indicating the partition). :Template:Proud Irish, btw, (not a category I'd come across before -- my teachers always told me that Pride was one of the seven deadly sins) is terrible (at least at my screen resolution). What is that on the left: a cabbage? -- Picapica 12:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename request

message: I have created a userbox Template:User Ireland Republic for those who want to use it to state they live in the republic. I'm not doing anything with this userbox as above until there's agreement whether this should be a location type (lives in) or culture type userbox MartinRe 13:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the idea of the map (as it's the ideal non ambigious picture of the location it refers to) It is getting a little confusing with all the variants, though, we have user Ireland/NI/RepIreland/Irish/Proud Irish. To me, the first three are location, the latter are cultural/nationality. Then again, the confusion isn't only in Ireland, User England is described as "comes from England", but adds the user to English people (which is what I though user english and user proud english were for! I think it would have been nice to have separate userboxes to show where you're from and what nationality you are, but I see no easy way of making the user boxes consistent without a great deal of work, which is hard to justify for userboxes. MartinRe 23:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with MartinRe (I think - I'm getting a little confused here!): a straightforward outline of the island is all we need (and certainly not a map indicating the partition). :Template:Proud Irish, btw, (not a category I'd come across before -- my teachers always told me that Pride was one of the seven deadly sins) is terrible (at least at my screen resolution). What is that on the left: a cabbage? -- Picapica 12:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Update