Talk:2007–08 Serie A

message: Any word on whether or not this has actually been resolved? It's been six months since the news broke.-RomeW (talk) 08:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Plusvalenze investigation"

message: I like the new managers section.  I think it should be kept and even updated once the 2007-2008 starts.  Juveboy 17:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Managers

message: I removed the sortable style of the standings table, per the Premier League discussion page. In a nutshell, the columns break when you sort by anything else aside from position in the league, and things become out of place. --Snojoe 15:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sortable table 

message: I reformatted the top goalscorers section into a table, which was then reverted by Angelo.romano.  This seems to be the best way to format the information.  Furthermore it is consistent with similar sections on many other pages, including Premier League 2007-08#Top scorers, Ligue 1 season 2007/2008#Top goalscorers, Fußball-Bundesliga 2007-08#Top scorers, and UEFA Champions League 2007-08#Top goalscorers.  As such, I have reinstated the table.  —Ed Cormany 18:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you possibly read the comment I left? Have a reading at WP:TABLE, which says tables are inappropriate in "Very long lists, or very simple lists". These lists are definitely simple. In any case, there's no consensus in support of your layout variation. --Angelo 08:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to me that this is not a "very simple list."  The example given at WP:TABLE has just two columns and is much shorter; the scorers chart has three and is of a medium length.  I made my original edit based on what I had seen on an overwhelming number of similar pages and WP:BOLD.  Perhaps now that there is a conflict of opinion, I do not have consensus, but likewise you are the sole objector so far.  I would like to see some other editors opinions.  —Ed Cormany 14:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone else reverted your edits as well, so I am surely not the sole opponent. The example at WP:TABLE is actually an example, and not the definition of a "simple list". If you still read WP:TABLE, there is also a section about what kind of content is appropriate to be represented with a table, and it clearly says the following: "many times, a list is best left as a list." and "tables should not be used simply for layout." It isto be mentioned obviously that tables are more difficult to be maintained that lists, by the way. --Angelo 15:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to include the top 10 scorers only. More than 10 goals may lead various of combinations. Raymond Giggs 05:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose this proposal. A minimum of ten goals is fair enough, and I don't really understand why we should limit the list to a mere 10 players. --Angelo (talk) 12:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Goalscorers format 

message: Now it looks exactly like the English Premiership table.  Who's idea was that?   Was there a discussion?  Juve2000 (talk) 18:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No discussion at all. It was made by User:KyleRGiggs. I have no position on it, even if I think there should be some sort of coherence between all Serie A season articles (and none of them use the current system), so I am not gonna oppose a revert. --Angelo (talk) 19:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since knowing that head-to-head would apply on the league, I made Head-To-Head section for the article. The Head-To-Head league table has been used at La Liga, which is not made by me. Also, the table is not only used on Premier League and La Liga, Liga I also use the new league table. Since there is a big success, I changed it into the new version. According to PeeJay, it is more easy to use rather than using the old version. And it cause less data-logging fault. Raymond Giggs 01:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no need to threaten those of us who don't like your new table and choose to revert it.  I never accused you of vandalism, Mr. Giggs, when you just came in and radically changed it even though you have seldom, if ever, edited the table on a weekly basis, yet you expect the rest of us to go along with your bright idea.  Juve2000 (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, Sorry for my rude tone. Just because I felt very grieve when someone said "I don't discuss with the others". I made a discuss but no one cares. Raymond Giggs 05:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And my surname is not "Giggs" LOL Raymond Giggs 05:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Classification

message: Is there a way we can replace with the Italian one? I feel like it looks better and it's easier to understand. Opinions? Udonknome (talk) 15:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really like the Italian version, and personally I feel the current one is quite easily understandable by the average English-speaking reader. --Angelo (talk) 08:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

text: The Italian table actually conveys less information at a glance than does the English one.  The one on the page currently is also more consistent with similar standings tables elsewhere on the .en Wikipedia (although we did decide to nix the EPL-style table a few weeks back, but it didn't really offend me either). —Ed Cormany (talk) 12:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  On the topic of the table though, shouldn't the bottom portion of the table where it reads "Relegated to Serie B" link to Serie B 2008-09 (or just Serie B in general) and not Serie A 2008-09? I was going to fix it, but realized it was in the template itself, not the parameters, and didn't want to tamper with it just in case I broke it. --Snojoe (talk) 06:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fixed it.  The offending link was in Template:Fb competition 2008-09 Serie B.  I can't believe that some editors have just suddenly come down with a "this is the way it is and is going to be, no discussion" attitude in adopting this new table format.  The tangle of template dependencies is maddening, almost entirely opaque, and does not encourage easy editing--not the Wikipedia way, as far as i'm concerned.  —Ed Cormany (talk) 17:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support anyone who reverted to the old table.Juve2000 (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: League Table

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