Talk:Phonological history of English dental fricatives

message: :::The following has been moved from Talk:Then-thyn split Jimp 03:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article where this came from was too long as was said when one attempts to edit the page. Topses 01:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've merged all of this here (at Phonological history of English fricatives and affricates) lest we end up with a plethora of stubby articles on splits & mergers like we had a year ago. Jimp 03:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Then-thyn split

message: :::The following has been moved from Talk:Th-fronting Jimp 02:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Th-weakening" 

message: I have a problem with all of these pages on pronunciation and language: they aren't written in simple English, so probably the only people who understand what they say are people who already know the subject matter. Maybe this can be remedied by linking more rather than re-writing it - for example, what's an phonemic split, what's a phoneme, what's an allophone, what's a grapheme, and how the hell do you find out how to pronounce those pronunciation symbols?  Otherwise all of these articles are fairly useless. This is an encyclopaedia, not a text book.198.142.44.211 10:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You have a point. I tried to fix the problem on this particular page by wikifying (i.e. linking) and adding the standard link for the meaning of the IPA signs. It's what we normally do here, it's just that people sometimes forget. Apart from that - well, I guess the assumption is that people who are interested in reading an article on such a specific theme as this will usually have a better-than-average knowledge of the subject area, too. Of course, that's not always correct. BTW, even if the term that you don't know isn't linked, you can type it in the search box on the left. --194.145.161.227 20:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can this page be written in English, please?  

message: I propose the remerging of the following articles here.
*Th-alveolarization
*Th-fronting
*Th-glottalization
*Th-stopping
*Then-thyn split
It's easier on the reader to have info in one place rather than in a string of little stubs. Jimp 04:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether it is better to have separate articles or a single complex one really depends how much we want to say about these things.  Some of these articles are very short, and I see no point in them when the same info is given in Pronunciation of English th.  However, that article is now long enough, and I would think it would not be helpful to merge a lot more information in, so if th-fronting is a big enough topic to have a specialist article, I would let it be.  But the Then-thyn split is a poor article with no information not already in the main article, so let's just delete it.  (Besides, who calls it "then-thyn"?  Those have different vowels and are therefore not a minimal pair.  I could ignore that if it were a properly established term, but since I have usually heard it as "thy-thigh", I would think that is the better designation.)  --Doric Loon 09:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remerge