Talk:Solidarity (Polish trade union)

message: Hmm. This needs disambiguastion, don't you think? Przepla 22:10, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree but should Solidarity be about the Polish union federation with the disambig page beeing Solidarity (disambiguation). Or should Solidarity be the disambig page? (I'd go for option one myself). Saul Taylor 10:01, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I initially went for option two, but then remembered that this page contains all history, so I created separate disambig. page. Przepla 20:58, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

text: Why isn't there a page on the concept of solidarity?  Shouldn't this be the main sense of the word? NTK 03:00, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Because nobody created it yet? Solidarity union is basically here as in Wikipedia articles references to Solidarity are almost always references to this trade union. Przepla 23:18, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text:  Wikipedia is a US-based initiative and most americans and most netizens (young paranoid gun-loving male people) are very hostile to positive rights of humans in general, so the philosophical and moral issue of solidarity does not mean anything for them and they do not want to see that in their encyclopaedia. 195.70.48.242 11:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Have you seen the disambig at the top of the article? [[Solidarity (disambiguation)].--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 14:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: I added the Union infobox. It is has been created as part of WikiProject Organized Labour. This is the first article it has been added to, but as Solidarity is used for the example at  it seemed appropriate. Please feel free to comment on both the content fields and style of the infobox on the template disscusion page. There is a (fairly arbitrary) date of March 1st as an aim for a more general usage of this infobox, and any input would be appreciated. Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 23:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox Union

message: Those are my goals for this article. To be ready for PR, three things are necessary:
* expantion (in progress - I am translating the article from pl wiki)
* copyedit (English language - not my speciality)
* references (I'll take care of that after expantion)
Comments and help appreciated.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems a decent idea. As soon as I get back from my family's place I'll try to apply as much of my reference paranoia as possible here :) //Halibutt 09:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I think of splitting the history part into the above article, this seems to have enough material to be  set on the GA/PR/FAC track. However we have nothing on organization, and a stub section on worldwide importance, so this article needs major content expantion before it can be put through that.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: PR and FAC

message: * :Category:Solidarity, to encompass organizations and events related to Solidarity (Gdańsk Agreement, martial law in Poland, AWS, etc.)
* :Category:Solidarity activists, a subcat of :Category:Activists and :Category:Solidarity
Comments?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Propsed new categories

message: I converted the introduction to the <ref> format. I'll come back and work on the rest of the article in a few days if no one is too opposed to the change.--Bookandcoffee 18:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki><ref></nowiki>

message: As I have splitted most of the content to History of Solidarity, I don't think this article can be viewed as GA any longer, I am removing the GA notice and listing History... for GA.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:52, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA move

message: We need more information about what Solidarność is up to at the moment.  --LakeHMM 23:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Today

message: The first two paragraphs are repeated essentially verbatim in the next two sections. At least one set should be deleted or rewritten.
Repeating paragraph has been deleted from the introduction section. Content was identical with influence abroad. Do not reintroduce unless expanding content 
198.96.180.245 19:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear anon. WP:LEAD is supposed to be a summary of the article. This article is still a draft, thus I agree the paras need expansion and being rewritten - but I think it's better to have a more comprehensive lead than not.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Piotrus, we cannot have identical paragraphs in the same article, we have to make a choice of which section one we want to keep it in. Agree with me, it would be unreasonable to keep this paragraph as a stub, we can always refer to the paragraph whenever the summary or expansion actually starts being written. 216.58.96.134 00:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dear anon (please consider registering - it's easy and gives you access to additional editing tools) - perhaps you'd consider expanding the article? Please note we have a high quality subarticle at History of Solidarity.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  00:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Piotrus, thank you for your offer to contribute to the article. I will consider doing so in the future. At the moment I believe that we will do a service to users who would like to print the article by keeping redundant material off of it. I believe such users exist notwithstanding the incompleteness of the article. I do agree with you that History of Solidarity is an excellent article. 209.195.119.84 07:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: From the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

message: All of the information contained in this page can be found within the more comprehensive History of Solidarity page.  I propose deleting this page and redirecting History of Solidarity to Solidarity --SianMycock 19:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete Page

message: how about mention of Solidarnosc, the shipyard etc in the Gunter Grass novel The Rat?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.189.14.2 (talk) 16:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gunter Grass

message: i wonder who put into furter reading a book of kaminski about prisoners, what have nothing to do with solidarity. i am going to remove it --37uk (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: kaminski

message: a book of pope has nothing about solidarity either.--37uk (talk) 21:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: solicitudo

message: I have a question about the exact correct translation of the full name of Solidarity/Solidarność. Near the top of this talk page an editor asked: What does "Niezależny Samorządny Związek Zawodowy Solidarność" mean precisely? The reply was: The Independent and Self-Governing Trade Union ‘Solidarność’. 
What I would like to know is whether the English word "Trade" is a literal, exact translation of the Polish word. In other words, in Poland, are workers' unions referred to as "trade unions" or as "labor unions"? (Or is that distinction even made?) Cgingold (talk) 15:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Replied here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  17:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Our discussion is continuing there, and has shifted to the renaming of related categories. Cgingold (talk) 14:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of union & article

message: The "ć" is pronounced t̠͡ɕ, not tɕ in the name of the trade union (and there is a difference between them). See the article about polish phonology if you don't believe. And besides I'm a Pole, so I know it well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.184.202.152 (talk) 09:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: What does Jesień Ludów mean literally? I know Jesień is autumn (fall), but can't figure out the rest of the phrase, given my very slight acquaintance with Polish.
And, is it somehow analagous to the German die Wende, referring to the great change after 1989?
Sca (talk) 22:52, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation?

message: I am removing :Category:Solidarity (Polish union movement) from :Category:Polish anti-communists as Solidarity was not anti-communist. Some of its members were, but it was not the Union's official policy, particularly not in the beginning. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not anti-communist 

message: You appear to have little understanding of the true reason/s Solidarity was created. For not only is it a western-backed 'trade union', but it is  also anti-communist. Consider how "Lech Wałęsa and others formed a broad anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church". Reading the whole text,  is it not clear that the Category:'Polish anti-communists' is the correct one? 92.16.159.244 (talk) 15:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solidarity ''is'' anti-communist 

message: We need to add information supported by reliable that it was funded by foreign powers-including CIA.For example Time openly wrote that part of the funds of the Solidarity movement came from CIA accounts. Money for the banned union came from CIA funds, the National Endowment for Democracy, secret accounts in the Vatican and Western trade unions.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 21:08, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need to add information supported by reliable that it was funded by foreign powers-including CIA.  

message: Disruptive editing – FYI, a hopping IP has been repeatedly inserting (WP:Fringe) claims using a non-WP:RS. . Act on it, if you are an admin. Zezen (talk) 06:51, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: CIA and Solidarity

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Solidarity (Polish trade union). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20130618022221/http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&visbn=0738838640&id=_P9owylILP4C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=Solidarity+Poland+nonviolence&sig=a531pYBFmXgNUIeXQ-PguOVwrts to http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&visbn=0738838640&id=_P9owylILP4C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=Solidarity+Poland+nonviolence&sig=a531pYBFmXgNUIeXQ-PguOVwrts
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 14:29, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Solidarity (Polish trade union). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20151223012347/http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hVkTJkESxuu6x3qpAjxPQrkik3ZAD951R7BG0 to https://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hVkTJkESxuu6x3qpAjxPQrkik3ZAD951R7BG0
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 16:31, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Solidarity (Polish trade union). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130807190656/http://solidarnosc.gov.pl/files/rola_solidarnosci/rola_solidarnosci_pl.doc to http://www.solidarnosc.gov.pl/files/rola_solidarnosci/rola_solidarnosci_pl.doc
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101112225004/https://www.solidarnosc.gov.pl/index.php?document=2 to http://www.solidarnosc.gov.pl/index.php?document=2
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090724151750/https://documentos.fundacionfaes.info/document_file/filename/471/00052-02_-_the_polish_trade_union.pdf to http://documentos.fundacionfaes.info/document_file/filename/471/00052-02_-_the_polish_trade_union.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081207104753/http://www.solidarity.org.pl/cgi-bin/news.pl?lang=en to http://www.solidarity.org.pl/cgi-bin/news.pl?lang=en
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111006061819/https://www.podst.ru/?area=posts&id=99 to http://www.podst.ru/?area=posts&id=99
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:55, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on Solidarity (Polish trade union). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131029190535/http://wyborcza.pl/1,109015,8313954,30_lat_po_Sierpniu_apos_80___Solidarnosc_zakladnikiem.html to http://wyborcza.pl/1,109015,8313954,30_lat_po_Sierpniu_apos_80___Solidarnosc_zakladnikiem.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130807190656/http://solidarnosc.gov.pl/files/rola_solidarnosci/rola_solidarnosci_pl.doc to http://www.solidarnosc.gov.pl/files/rola_solidarnosci/rola_solidarnosci_pl.doc
*Added archive https://wayback.archive-it.org/all/20141115173452/http://www.oup.com/uk/catalogue/?ci=9780199552016 to http://www.oup.com/uk/catalogue/?ci=9780199552016
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:55, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There seems to be an editor, namely Openlydialectic, who rejects the fact that the CIA supported Solidarity, contrary to factual history.  This editor keeps deleting a section concerning this information from the article. His reasons cited are that the source provided are "soviet-style Russian propaganda." This is wholly obnoxious, as one of the main sources from the section is from the CIA website itself!  Openlydialectic has refused to give any intelligible reason for his reverts, so I am keeping the section. If anyone sees further reverts by this editor, please report him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:85:C102:EEB3:3D7E:73B0:7E6A:350E (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covert support for Solidarity 

message: the current page is missing a reference, so the whole article is messed up.
This is all visible: Cite error: A  tag is missing the closing  (see the help page). (680,000 in 2010)[1] |full_name = Independent Self-governing Trade Union "Solidarity" |native_name = Niezależny Samorządny Związek Zawodowy "Solidarność" |image = Solidarity (Polish trade union) (logo).png |caption = |founded = 17 September 1980; 38 years ago[2] |country = Poland |affiliation = ITUC, ETUC, TUAC |office = Gdańsk, Poland |website = Solidarnosc.org.pl (in English) |footnotes = |current = |head = |dissolved_date = |dissolved_state = Merged into |merged_into = |people = Anna Walentynowicz, Lech Wałęsa }}
at the top of the article, and it shouldn't be  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.200.33 
resolved as of 4:57 PM PST
(talk) 22:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken reference html code  

message: The CIA covert support section begins, "Unlike the Carter Administration, the Reagan policies supported the Solidarity movement in Poland...". This appears to imply that the Carter Administration did not support the Solidarity movement. I see no evidence in this article or its sources for such an implication. Can this be supported or should it be removed? -- Pemilligan (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference to Carter should be removed then, unless an RS supports it. Zezen (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carter Administration 

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
* 
Participate in the deletion discussion at the . —Community Tech bot (talk) 10:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: I'm currently writing a paper on this for a history course, and was startled to find that there's nothing here about it. I've read the book & the author gave a talk at my college - notably, it seems all the CIA provided was a shitload of money, technical support for radio/TV broadcasts, and printing equipment and duplicator machines. QRHELPFUL was run out of the Paris CIA office & materials were transported into Poland through "Ratlines" so that the Polish government wasn't ever able to catch the smoking gun of a CIA officer meeting with a Solidarity member.
Sources: 
Article: https://www.csis.org/analysis/going-offensive-us-strategy-combat-russian-information-warfare
Book: A Covert Action - Reagan, The CIA, And The Cold War Struggle In Poland by Seth G. Jones - https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393247008
tweet from the us embassy in Poland about it. https://twitter.com/PolishEmbassyUS/status/1130880287154561024?s=20&t=gqGPgesJiydJhoIHVxr_Ag
I should be writing my essay, so I'm not going to add to the page (especially as I have no experience in that.) Someone should add it, though. Syrtis-m (talk) 02:41, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIA funds were channeled to Solidarity under an operation QRHELPFUL. Article makes no mention. 

message: What's with the quotes around the  „name”? Can they be removed? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:27, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes