Talk:Wii homebrew

message: I'm thinking this article should be kept. It seems like this would be the most logical place for work on a wii linux port to take place since xbox-linux.org and playstation2-linux.org are used for the same purpose. As for the claim that this is just an ad for a website. The website is non profit and will most likely just be a money pit, there's nothing monetary to gain from more traffic. fintler 15:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not meant as a place to "work on" anything.  It is an Encyclopedia and even if the site is non profit it is only serving to advertise the project at this time.Sir hugo 15:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I see your point. Maybe later then :) fintler 15:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Consider this though.  This article led you to the site, it was used to advertise the site then.  This is not what WP is for.  If the WP Linux project actually comes up with something notable or produces a product or even becomes an internet fad then it will warrant an article, until then I stand by the deletion proposition.Sir hugo 15:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes it did lead me to the site, but in the way that the google page on wiki has a link to google. my feelings arent too strong on the matter however, so if you wish to put it up for deletion again, i won't argue next time Dionysus 22:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: Removed this:
" However, due to the outages and general uncertainty about Wiili, most new development about the Wii Remote takes place at the WiiBrew Wiki. "
If you visit both sites you will find that actually wiili.org is well ahead on development and contributions (this includes the translations and forums which wiidev doesn't even have). If some one doesn't agree there's no need to talk about this "uncertainty" as it's clearly trying to hurt one of the websites developing Linux for the Wii.
:Reread that line again. Work on the Wii Remote is clearly ahead on the WiiBrew Wiki. Compare:  . Wiimote != Wii in general. I will also re-add a more-NPOV version of the previous "controversy" section, as most of the information there, while somewhat-POV, is correct. If you find anything that you feel is POV, please change it, but don't delete the whole section. 83.36.95.40 16:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed this 

message: I posted a (similar) comment to the AfD page. This article is in need of some serious cleanup, as it is completely mixing up two projects, the Wii Linux Project, and WiiLi. Most of what's in this article is actually about the latter (except for the arstechnica/slashdot quotes, which are about the former), but for some reason at some point both were considered the same project and WiiLi/Wiili now redirect to this article's page. The former project has absolutely nothing and is not notable at all IMO (they haven't even had an update since the wii came out, and their wiki is basically empty), while the latter is a well-known (if controversial and of debatable merit) project. 
Personally though, I'd just say delete the whole thing and create a single article (say, Wii homebrew) to encompass all of these sites and also including non-linux-specific homebrew (wiibrew, wiire, etc). Currently anyway, there is no Linux on Wii development, since it is impossible to run homebrew code, so the efforts to run homebrew in the first place are far more important (and more general). Stuff like the Wiimote reverse engineering is also not specific to Linux. Once someone comes up with some linux that actually runs on the wii, it might deserve its own page. Marcan 06:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major confusion between two projects 

message: None of the actual web sites are particularly notable yet so having a major chunk of this little article talking about wannabe homebrew web sites squabbling with eachother just has to go.
*Who cares about petty issues with site donations?
*Who cares about which site is more up to date than another?
*Who cares about server moves?
*Who cares about external sites trying to use their advocates to push an agenda on wikipedia? (okay so this is relevant but not relevant in the article)
There is no linux for Wii and it looks to be way off so this whole article makes no sense at present. If someone eventually works out how to load unsigned code there may eventually be an opportunity to load linux but for now it is pretty much only controller hacking so this article should be about Wii homebrew. If the section on linux ever gets longer than "we don't have the vaguest clue how to do it" it might warrant a separate article.
I removed the controversy section but one of the zealots readded it. I leave it to consensus to do the right thing. 59.167.63.205 23:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To be clear, I don't want to poo poo people's efforts on Wii homebrew, but there seems to be as much action on Wikipedia than on these other web sites. 59.167.63.205 23:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy, controsmurfy 

message: Should this be included in the wii catagory? Mattyatty 19:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catagory:Wii 

message: If no one has a better idea or is opposed to this, I will:
* Create Wii homebrew
** Document the current status of homebrew (outside of specific sites)
** Document the community (sites, IRC channels, and the like).
* Redirect everything else to it
Possible alternative: move this page to Wii homebrew, instead of creating a new one (still otherwise doing the above).
The title of this article is not appropriate, and using this to document the various available projects isn't really an option. The whole thing needs cleanup, and the subject doesn't deserve a single article per each and every project/site out there.
As for the "fanboy" section, I think it deserves a mention, although in a more general article like Wii homebrew, it should be much more condensed.
Any comments? Marcan 03:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. At present there are only a couple of notable sentences in this article and all the so called controvesy is petty and irrelevant. 59.167.63.205 21:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructuring / Cleanup 

message: It looks like an IP address just added a section about the Mac application, Remote Buddy. While the application itself has won several awards and is probably notable enough for an article of its own, I question whether it belongs here or not. Apparently the company recently added the Wii Remote to their list of supported remote devices. However, I don't see that adding a feature that has been well explored by other (free) drivers does much to advance the state of homebrewing.  My inclination is therefore to remove the reference. Does anyone agree? Jbanes 04:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remote Buddy, yay or nay? 

message: First of all, the grammar was horrible in this section. It looked like an elementary school kid wrote it. Remember that this is an encyclopedia article, and all grammar must be carefully checked for professionalism. I attempted to clean up some of the grammar, but it was too painful to work on in a single sitting.
Second, this section of the article serves very little purpose in adding to the article. It is simply a list of competing websites, all wishing to make themselves sound like the end-all solution after incrementally tacking their plugs to the end of the section. Many should be removed; some can be merged into bullet points or lists.
Geekrecon 23:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempted Cleanup of Steaming Media Section 

message: Over at the Chaos Communication Congress there has been some real progress in getting some Wii mode homebrew, this page should be updated, and the vigilance raised since there is probably a lot of new stuff coming out about it the new couple of weeks.--Henke37 (talk) 00:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent developments 

message: According to http://www.tehskeen.com/ a savegame exploit for Zelda: Twilight Princess has allowed "4 lines" of homebrew code to be run without use of a modchip.  The method reportedly involves creating a modified savegame file with proper cryptographic signatures.  "Assuming we don't run into a wall, it should be able to lead to a homebrew loader. I hope. No promises. :)"  Hopefully this can make its way onto the main Wii homebrew page as more details and permanent links to the information become available. 206.222.212.218 (talk) 20:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  initial reports of savegame exploit 

message: My apologies if this is the wrong place to report this, but it appears that link #10 (http://wii.nintendo.com/wii_faq_internet.jsp) is no longer valid.  I'm not sure if there is another source for that information or if it has simply been removed.  Phoenix00017 (talk) 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Link 

message: The wiiflash.org project should be filed as "wiimote on other platforms", with an input server for the Wiimote and a Flash client. The mention of "ActionScript 3.0" should've made it obvious. 85.177.141.100 (talk) 13:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  wiiflash not browser based 

message: This is a rather well known trick used to put homebrew on the Wii; it even has a stickied topic on GameFAQs! Why hasn't it been added to this article yet?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.43.138 (talk) 19:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twilight Princess Hack 

message: I don't know much about editing wikipedia, but Waninkoko (wii.waninkoko.info), the creator of the WAD tools and cIOS, has been working on a backup loader without the need of a modchip. It has been recently leaked and is now to be found all over. I think this should in some way be represented in the article. Discussion of the loader can be found here http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=104722 and an incomplete faq here http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=105670  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.189.37 (talk) 08:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waninkoko's modchip-less backup homebrew 

message: This page is terribly written in most places, with both historically inaccurate and just plain wrong information. The style is attrocious. There are dozens of glaring omissions. I really don't have the time to correct it myself at the moment, could someone add a banner to this effect (the cleanup banner)? Thanks. 79.72.82.40 (talk) 10:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No offense, but your comment is pretty worthless without actual details. While you don't have to fix it yourself, you need to give others an idea of what to fix.  What is historically inaccurate?  What is wrong?  What is wrong with the style?  What has been omitted?  If you at least put together a simple list, plenty of editors will fix the article. Rurik (talk) 16:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the guy above Rurik. This is more likely to confuse the hell out of people than to provide any information. Ive made some edits to this page and its still terrible. Ill try posting this on a few sites and see if i can get some people to help clean it up. --24.205.253.215 (talk) 04:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See, the problem with this article is that it's horribly outdated (not to mention written poorly). The article, with the exception of a few mentions, completely ignores all that Team Twiizers has done. It doesn't even mention BootMii, other than noting that Bannerbomb uses it to run software. I'll try and fix up a few things in the article later, but, in my opinion, it needs a full rewrite. Unknownlight (talk) 18:48, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think a  tag or a  would help? Jasonxu98 (talk) 01:02, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrible 

message: I think this page should be merged into Homebrew (video games) -- even though I am a wii homebrew coder myself :P (I am Wack0, softmii dev and i coded WiiSCU). Why ? Because there already is a page about video games homebrew .. there doesn't need to be another one ;) 80.225.189.123 (talk) 14:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging ? 

message: Does anyone think that this page needs some images (like of the homebrew channel, SD cards, homebrewing process, etc.)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.204.118.34 (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Feels like the Legal section on this page is rushed and doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the page. It says its legal to use, but doesnt say why it is. " A list of all Homebrew Channel compatible legal applications may be found at WiiBrew, a wiki dedicated for homebrew development on the Wii." Seems odd that thats thrown in there as well. Such uses are completely discouraged by Team Twiizers - Why, What uses, and How? This section could use a lot of work in my mind. --64.113.125.209 (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal 

message: This article should be deleted becuase of it bad information and that the Homebrew Channel , the only program to succsessfuly hack the wii with out destroying it. the information on this page has nothing to do with this subject, it needs to be corrected in every paragraph, their people trying to advertise their websites to this page should be deleted pernimently.
-the only way it could stay would be fixing and make it more reasonable to keep. which would be alot of work which im not going to do all by myself. 
BEWARNED
or be DELETED
--Blueluke234 (talk) 20:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion