Talk:Coat of arms of the United Kingdom

message: An indented paragraph of the blazon is attributed to Brooke-Little's edition of Boutell's Heraldry, 1978.  I happen to have that same edition, and cannot find that literal paragraph anywhere in the chapter cited (pp 205–222), though of course each of its components is there; so the quotation format is misleading. —Tamfang (talk) 19:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boutell or not Boutell 

message: Hello all
I have recently noticed that on some pages, the wrong coat of arms are used for the time period. This can be seen with the Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Act, the Offences Against the Person act, as well as several more, which use the 2022 coat of arms rather than the appropriate versions for the periods the legislation was passed. Does anybody know how to correct this? I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia and couldn't figure out how to do it Ted Jillani (talk) 22:55, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? Which coat of arms is wrong? RicLightning (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the articles for some pieces of legislation, such as the one for the Offences Against the Person act 1861, the coat of arms used is the 2022 version, featuring the 'Tudor' crown and simplified harp. This isn't the correct version for the period when the law was passed. The correct version in this case would be the 1837- 1952 version featuring the winged harp. This isn't the only case, some laws passed between 1952 and 2022 feature the version of the arms with the 'Tudor' crown when St Edward's would be more appropriate. Apologies if I wasn't clear, I don't mean that any of the coats of arms on this page are incorrect. I was hoping that somebody may see my comment here and then correct the coats of arms on the articles where it is incorrect. I would have done it myself however I couldn't figure out how to change the arms. Also, I thought it would be easier to ask here rather than asking separately on the talk pages on each individual page, as there appears to be several that ought to be altered  Ted Jillani (talk) 00:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've finally figured out how to change the coats of arms for individual pieces of legislation. Apologies for any confusion caused Ted Jillani (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

text: This should change many articles (? 2401:E180:8D64:337A:7FE5:4193:4CC2:BB11 (talk) 03:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It won't change several at once if that's what you mean. I can only assume that the infobox on the template for legislation automatically used the present coat of arms unless otherwise altered?  Ted Jillani (talk) 10:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect coats of arms 

message: I've just completed a rearrange of the article, as the lead was very long and seems to have inadvertently absorbed the description, which in other articles is generally in a distinct section (e.g. the Netherlands).
What this exposed, however, is that the article is not very well-sourced when it comes to arms themselves, either the blazon or general description. I suspect this is because leads are not often fully-sourced. I've added a few basic sources, but they don't cover the full description and therefore leave some key points (e.g. whether the Scottish crown really is the Crown of Scotland) unsupported. 
In short, if anyone has access to good sources feel free to add them. A.D.Hope (talk) 19:14, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for the royal arms 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 10:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 May 2023 

message: I did just a few harmless edits to this article. Nothing bad, I swear it. RicLightning (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: See Talk:William, Prince of Wales#Inescutcheon. RicLightning (talk) 16:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prince William's coat of arms as Prince of Wales 

message: Hi, there's a deletion nomination at :commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cabinet Office logo.svg that would benefit from input. I'm unclear from the page and discussions here if the coat of arms is still copyrighted somehow, or is in the public domain? Some seem to be here under fair use, others are PD, or even CC-BY-SA? Input welcome (and I'd encourage making copyright status clearer in this article!). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright? 

message: A discussion is going on at the Commons concerning the copyright status of several coats of arms that are in use on this page. Please feel free to share your comments and input at :commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Coat of arms of Queen Camilla.svg. Thanks. Keivan.fTalk 18:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright 

message: Hi,
I am proposing that that St Edward's Crown version of the arms be used as the main image on this page. Whilst the Tudor Crown version has been used in some artistic depictions, as of May 2024 the vast majority of the arms currently officially used are the St Edward's Crown version. These include:
* the royal family official website
* the Lord Chamberlin, who describes the St Edwards version as the standard version on the 2023 official guidance on the use of the arms (page 5)
* Official Buckingham palace correspondence, as seen in the 2024 King's cancer announcement
* Version used by the UK government 
The only places I can find the Tudor Crown version are:
* Invitations to the coronation
* Coronation roll
The is also a College of Arms blog post in 2022 stating they envisage the Tudor Crown to be used in arms, but that doesn't prove anything about the current status of the arms (WP:FUTURE)
In the absence of an official announcement that the depiction of the arms is changing, the image should reflect what the majority of reliable, published sources depict, which is the St Edwards version. Personally, I think that a change will happen, but it will likely take some time due to the number of places the arms are currently used. When that announcement is made, then it would be appropriate to make the change. Safes007 (talk) 00:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The Tudor crown was used from 1901 to 1952. St Edward's Crown was then phased in over years. I see no particular reason to sweep 50 years of examples under the carpet or to show the Elizabethan version over the traditional one. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maintain use of St Edward's Crown version