Talk:Chris Dodd 2008 presidential campaign

message: Even though I disagree with Senator Dodd on almost every issue I wrote this article for a reason much more important than Dodd. I wrote this article to demonstrate the rigors of the campaign schedule that all candidates face. I wanted to show what it was like to be on the campaign trail.--STX 06:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rigors of Campaign 

message: You might want to double check your info for Sept. 3rd. There's a Waterloo NH and IA too. -- Kendrick7talk 22:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the source and it is correct. I got mixed up on the June 3 Debate but everything else should be right.--STX 22:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I removed the tags; but the WaPo source has him in both IA and NH at noon and then in NH at 3:30 and in IA at 6:30 on Sept. 3rd. So this looks a little flaky, but we're only as good as our sources. Kendrick7talk 22:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I really think this is a duplication error on the part of WaPo, as Sept 4th for Iowa is a duplicate of Sept 3rd. -- Kendrick7talk 23:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It probably is, I'll try to find another source.--STX 23:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks, I was suspicious, but wrong about the city confusion. Having grown up in San Antonio, my brain had originally allocated a total of about 15 cells to keep track of city names. Been in Boston for a decade now, and there are still cities in New England, even relatively nearby, that I hear about for the first time on at least a weekly basis. So forgive me, as a former South Texan, for presuming a cultural bias here. -- Kendrick7talk 23:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manchester IA vs NH 

message: Political positions should be at the top. There'd be no point in a campaign if he didn't have any positions, and it's what a lot of readers are going to be looking for first off. -- Kendrick7talk 20:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright I see what you're saying but I think it flows better the other way.--STX 20:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I moved it again before I saw your addendum. I think his positions are more important that where he was on such and such a day. I imagine most of the other campaign articles have the candidate's positions at or near the top as well, though I haven't checked. -- Kendrick7talk 20:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political positions 

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message: I tagged this article for peer review to see what some other editors thought about the format and focus of this article. Click here for the results.--RedShiftPA (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Chris Dodd presidential campaign, 2008|Peer Review Request for this article]] 

message: A compromise version that satisfies everybody's concerns can be found at User:Southern Texas/Sandbox.--STX 00:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compromise version 

message: Over the past few weeks there has been some back and forth reverting to long versions of this article and shorter versions. The long version goes into far greater detail, but is it too much detail for a general encyclopedia? We should really discuss this before going back and forth any more. It's currently in a short version. If it's decided we want the long version, we can always go back. So what do you think? Mahalo. --Ali'i 13:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been reading different campaign articles on wikipedia for about a year and this article is very good and indepth. Deleting half the article makes no sense so I would ask the individual who keeps doing this to please stop.--William Saturn (talk) 15:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia and does not elaborate too deeply into a topic. This has been discussed over and over again with people adding unnecessary information to Pokémon articles, TV series episodes, video games, books. The campaign article does not have to mention every single city that the candidate visited, what he talked about, what he ate for lunch, what toothpaste brand is his favorite, etc. --Wiendietry (talk) 10:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I think several admins should take a look at both versions and reach a consensus whether we need the month-to-month campaign detail or not. It should be admin(s) since they are the only ones who could protect/unprotect a page. If this page is unprotected and non-admins are edit warring again, there could be no end. It should be more than one admin so it's not one-sided. --Nat Miller (talk) 08:42, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely not. Admins are not more special than the rest of us. They are not granted editorial content control power. I think a little more talk from everyone here can work this out just fine. Once we show a consensus for what we want, then we can tell an admin, and they can unprotect the page so we can implement it. The stratification of editors is not good, and we don't need to give admins more power. Mahalo. --Ali'i 13:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, being an admin isn't relevent, this is an editing dispute.  Wikipedia:Article size is not the kind of thing that admins need to rouge-ly enforce.  We can just us our powers of "editors familiar with the purpose and methods of Wikipedia" to work this out.  At 76K, a split into a second "Timeline of the Chris Dodd presidential campaign, 2008", might be viable.  WilyD 13:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm not sure a split would be the best idea at this point (76K isn't too horrendous). Before we split, how about everyone go through and try and identify any material that would be too detailed for a general reference work? I'm sure even the people that want the longer article can find things that could be trimmed without harming the encyclopedic quality of the article. I'll try and go through the long version today and make notes of things I think could be trimmed, and post them here. If others could do the same, I'm sure we could eliminate some of the "bloat". A split might not be necessary. Mahalo. --Ali'i 13:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

text: This article is horrible, it doesn't even make any sense when you try to read it. Why was this version protected instead of the GA version? --William Saturn (talk) 22:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slow revert war 

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