Talk:Warsaw Uprising/Archive 1

message: Dear Halibutt,
despite I respect your intention to make the article even better, I suppose it's wrong idea to make preparations here and then to move a better article to the proper place. It's not how wiki intended to work. As a minor effect, you have to insert numerous warnings into the body of the article to inform others that it is being edited somewhere else. As more long-term and worse effect, such moves drop editing history, and, to the some extent, violate GNU FDL...
So, please consider if it is possible to achieve your goals without moving the page.
Thank you!
Dr Bug  (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 09:50, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: We will do so in the future. ATM we are moving the article and all further changes will be done on the official page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:16, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Idea in general

message: ==== August ====
==== September ====
==== October ====
Work in progress on 'detail' section continues here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:22, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detailed chronology 

message: Work in progress on 'detail' section continues here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:22, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  October 

message: An idea for a new section: quotes about Warsaw Uprising (or related). So far I have those (I will translate them shortly):
* before the Uprisng:
:* More then 1000 members of German Ordnungspolizei and Sicherheitspolizei  have died in the course of their normal police duties, this does not include the losses during the participation of any special operations. Alongside those losses, the number of 500 casualties among the various officials of all administration sectors deservers a separate mention - from the speach of Hans Frank on 18 November 1943
:* If not for Warsaw in the General Government, we wouldn't have 4/5 of our current problems on that territory. Warsaw was and will be the center or chaos and a place from which opposition spreads throughout the rest of the country - [Hans Frank]] in 14 December 1943, Cracow
* during the uprising
:* Contrary to our expectations, the enemy has halted all of their offensive actions alonside the entire front of the 9th Army. - from the operations journal of German 9th Army on 16 August 1944, entry shows the German amazement with Russian responce to the Warsaw Uprising
* after the uprising
:* one the most deadly fights since the begining of the war, as difficult as the fight for Stalingrad - Heinrich Himmler to other German generals on 21 IX 1944
--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:48, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: The initial work for restructuring is now complete.  A few edits which went in on material I had already copied elsewhere have been deleted (check uprising page history) and should be copied over.  There needs to be verification that everything is preserved.  I have been doing brutal sumamrisation and so it should be checked that I maintained facts correctly and didn't add anything wrong.  
In summary, this seems to have helped quite a bit since there were several sections of repetition of the same material and some basic facts which weren't clearly stated (they were there, but the meaning was clear only if you already knew much about the uprising).  This still needs some work and there are stub sections in the subsiduary articles, but I hope we are now close to featured article level.  
Mozzerati 11:21, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)
===FAC objections===
I am moving the old FAC discussion here and renewing the nomination. →Raul654 19:55, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
The 60th anniversary is this Sunday (1 Aug); it would be a good article to feature given the immense historical significance of the event. I've rewritten it so that it reads better, so I guess this should count as a self-nomination... -- ChrisO 19:18, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Restructuring Complete

message: I am moving the old FAC discussion here and renewing the nomination. →Raul654 19:55, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
The 60th anniversary is this Sunday (1 Aug); it would be a good article to feature given the immense historical significance of the event. I've rewritten it so that it reads better, so I guess this should count as a self-nomination... -- ChrisO 19:18, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: FAC objections