Talk:Los Gatos, California

message: Do we really need TWO picture of the same front of the high school?
--AJseagull1 05:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We could remove the image next to the Geography section, it isn't really needed there. Mike24 23:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The problem with Los Gatos is that its downtown is REALLY congested so it's hard to get a good clean shot as I was able to do for Los Altos.  I don't know the surrounding hills very well, though.  --Coolcaesar 09:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Town photos 

message: Is there any evidence that Los Gatos is noted for its antique stores?  I've lived here for 8 years and hadn't heard that.  Well, OK, I'm not an antique shopper, so maybe that doesn't mean anything.  But the Los Gatos Chamber of Commerce site only lists two antique stores that I can see (Antiquarium and Vintages).  There's lots more hair salons and restaurants than antique stores. :-) -Steve Pucci | talk 04:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it sure was known for them when I lived there (1980s and early 1990s).  I didn't shop for antiques either, but I knew that LG was a hot spot for antique shoppers. I don't have strong feelings about removing it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right.  I don't get out much. :-)  I may take a stab at rewriting that sentence to make the antique stores somewhat less prominent, though. -Steve Pucci | talk 04:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a stab at it.  Feel free to tweak. Steve Pucci | talk 05:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: On the topic of being know for its antique stores, the only two antique stores went out of business a while ago. One was across from Posh. Gavinthesavage 16:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Known for its antique stores? 

message: Does it seem odd to anyone else that the history of telephony is the largest section in this article?  -Steve Pucci | talk 05:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems odd to me too.  Some idiot added a huge amount of telephony history to a lot of NorCal cities a few weeks ago, when all that stuff really should be going into the area code articles.  I have been getting rid of these sections when I see them (last time I checked this is not the Telephonypedia) and he hasn't bothered to contest my removals.  Feel free to get rid of it.  --Coolcaesar 05:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved it to Area code 408. --Steve Pucci | talk 18:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of telephony 

message: I can imagine a farmer using this pronounciation, but does the other 60% of the Bay Area say it this way?--Old Guard 02:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In fast speech, which is the way most people talk most of the time, (in ) is a pretty accurate representation of how the town's name is pronounced. "Los" is pronounced with the vowel of "cot", the 'a' of Gatos is pronounced with the vowel of "cat", and the second vowel is reduced to schwa. I graduated from Los Gatos High School and unless in Spanish class or speaking very carefully, this is how everyone pronounces the name of the town. "Las Gaddis" is a town near "Sana Zay" (in ). Nohat 04:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know my parents have told me before that before "las gaddis" became a high wealth and populated area that in fact it was pronounced "las gaddis". Heck I say las gaddis and I only lived there for the first 3 years of my life.  And it makes the most sense. we dont say San Ho-say or Los Anheles.  We say San ozay and los angales.  Yeah sorry for none of those fancy dictionary letters and all but thats the best way I could explain it >.>  --Mike24 05:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about "las gaddis". I've lived there my entire life and I'm currently a student in LGHS. I usually here "Las Gatos" or "Los Gatos" and I've never heard "las gaddis"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.73.99 (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved to Los Gatos in 1972, and have lived either in town, or within about a mile of its city limits, for about 90% of the time since, and I would say that I have only heard it pronounced as "Los Gatos," in a non-sarcastic manner, probably half a dozen times in my life.  Everyone througout the 1970s, 80s, and 90s always pronounced it "las gaddis," and as far as I know, they still do (I presently live about half a mile east of Los Gatos, and still frequently shop in the town, and visit family & friends there).  Maybe a few nouveau-riche types are trying to gentrify the pronunciation, but I never seem to have any contact with these people.  Everyone throughout Santa Clara County calls it "las gaddis," except for native Spanish speakers.  Some people even used to just call it "gaddis," although that doesn't seem to be in common use anymore.  This pronunciation thing is so not in dispute.  Its like claiming people in New York City still harbor Dutch Nationalist sentiments, and refer to the city as New Amsterdam ie., its patent nonsense. And I'm one of the few people who actually pronounces "San Jose" as San Ho-Zay. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 09:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All I know is that the currently given pronunciation, [lɔːs ˈɡætəs], is inaccurate as locals don't have the [ɔ] sound in their phonologies (see the note in []). Nlacara (talk) 10:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

text: it's bizarre to refer to whatever the local pronunciation of Los Gatos is as 'anglicized' because in standard British English 'Los Gatos' would be pronounced exactly the same as it is in Spanish. keypunch (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  las gaddis? 

message: This section seems very generalized and not specific to Los Gatos.  Perhaps it's still being worked on but that earthquake did do a lot of damage to buildings in Los Gatos yet it is not mentioned.  "Killed many people" is pretty vague and should be put into numbers.  Did any of those people die in Los Gatos?  If not, perhaps this shouldn't be here at all.Shishigashira 18:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loma Prieta 

message: Has anyone else heard of the Los Gatos cat festival (per the recent unsourced addition to article)? --Steve Pucci | talk 09:07, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, only the annual Strawberry Festival. But I haven't lived there for years.  Is it something new or vandalism? — Frecklefoot | Talk 12:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it.  Feel free to reinsert with a reference. --Steve Pucci | talk 05:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that the Strawberry Festival got moved to the campus of West Valley Community College in Saratoga a few years ago (although perhaps its since been moved back).  Never heard of any Cat Festival. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 09:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los Gatos cat festival? 

message: What's up with these cities?  Are these cities that want to be like Los Gatos?  Do they have any "official" sister status?  I grew up in LG and never heard of any "sister cities" of the town.  Until some references for the claims can be made, I'm removing them. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, found the reference in the extern links.  Made it an official reference in the article.  There still isn't any explanation of what the sister status means. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sister cities?

message: Los Gatos is in both Santa Clara and Santa Cruz County and covers 
95030, 95031, 95032, 95033 http://losgatos.areaconnect.com/zip2.htm?city=Los%20Gatos&qs=CA&searchtype=bycity
LosGatosMtns (talk) 20:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is a wiki, you can just make the corrections yourself.  References are appreciated for any new information. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

text: No part of the Town of Los Gatos is in Santa Cruz County. It is not uncommon for Post Office and ZIP code boundaries to not coincide with municipal and county boundaries, and the Los Gatos Post Office serves many properties which are located in Santa Cruz County. They only have Los Gatos addresses because they are served by the Los Gatos Post Office, not because they are located in the Town of Los Gatos. These properties are not in The Town of Los Gatos. They are in Santa Cruz County and pay property taxes there. Nohat (talk) 22:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  County & Zip Code Errors 

message: I know it seems very hard to believe, but prior to the construction of Highway 85, during the 1970s and 80s (I believe its origins actually date back to the 1960s, but I can't say for certain, and that it remained until the very early 1990s, but again, I'm not certain) there was a very small shanty town (more of a tiny village) in Los Gatos.  I never visited it, and thus I don't know its precise location, other than that it was located in Los Gatos, on land where highway 85 stands today, somewhere west of Winchester Blvd (I suspect between Pollard Road and Wedgewood Avenue, presumably down by the railroad tracks, where such things were often located, and probably still are in some locales).  I went to school with a couple of kids (both at Ralph O. Berry Elementary on Oka Road, and later at Louise Van Meter Elementary, on Los Gatos Blvd) from that ramshackle settlement (I have heard it included a converted school bus, used for human habitation, but can't verify the accuracy of that).  Sad to say, but the kids from the shanty generally seemed to have emotional problems, perhaps in part stemming from their poverty.  One of the kids I attended Van Mater with used to be teased quite mercifully due to his body odor.  I always thought this was odd, since why didn't he just take a shower?  Now I understand he lived without ordinary access to running water.
Anyhoo, I simply don't know enough about this shanty to be able to include any information about it in the main article, never-the-less, if anyone else does know anything more about it, it would be really cool if we could get some mention of it into the article.  Talk about your hidden history of Los Gatos! KevinOKeeffe (talk) 11:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I grew up in Los Gatos, but never heard of such a place.  But I didn't go to Berryman (wasn't it "Berryman" and not just "Berry"?) or Van Meter either, so I guess I missed out.  I just didn't get out much either, I guess. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 01:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it was definitely Ralph O. Berry Elementary School (I attended from 1975-1980), located at the present site of the Yavneh Day School on Oka Road.  Ralph O. Berry had been the Mayor of Los Gatos, at one time. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 11:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure you know the school you attended, but I have a list of all Los Gatos mayors and Ralph Berry is not on it. Dr. Bruntz' History of Los Gatos (1971), p107, clears it up: "The new Louise Van Meter School was built on San Jose Avenue [now Los Gatos Blvd.] in 1959, and Ralph Berry was the first Principal." The Yavneh School, by the way, is part of the Addison-Penzak Jewish Community Center, a large facility that could have easily displaced a small elementary school.--Alastair Dallas, former editor Los Gatos Observer 8 December 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adallas (talk • contribs) 18:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Shanty Town in Los Gatos

message: Every few days (maybe everyday) some anon user comes in and updates the stats in the "Geography and environment" section of the article.  I assume they are updating the info based on the latest weather in the town.  While it's interesting and informative, I have a problem with this.  First, this information is not referenced, nor has it ever been.  Second, though it's fairly attractive, I don't recall seeing this kind of information in any other "city" article.  Why just this one?  Should Wikipedia even include such information that, apparently, changes so often?  I elect we remove the section unless a source is provided for it and it is demonstrated that the section is encyclopedic.  Does anyone object? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 01:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I withdraw this objection.  Last time I looked, it is finally properly referenced, which was my biggest beef.  I still don't think this needs to be updated daily, but it's work for them, not me. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography and environment

message: Several external links were removed this morning without discussion here. I would argue that these links are valid, referring to online news sites about Los Gatos. This article is about a community, so blogs such as Live in Los Gatos .com seem entirely relevant to me. Also, Los Gatos Patch .com seems like a useful external link--Patch provides on-site, 24/7 news and information. One of the links removed (which I restored) was to the Town of Los Gatos Public Library. Can we reach a consensus that these links are beneficial to the article and not spam or links to linkfarms?Adallas (talk) 19:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The two sites you mention appear to be blogs and, as such, are discouraged by reliable source guidelines. The link to the town's library isn't relevant: it's about (and for) the library, not the town itself. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 14:52, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought the idea was an online encyclopedia. Factual, relevant, and comprehensive but also online, linked to more volatile sources of information. The Town of Los Gatos has just one library--it's eleven years younger than the town. The library offers an online research service that would reasonably benefit someone looking for information about the town. I don't understand the delete first, ask questions later attitude I'm seeing here and elsewhere in Wikipedia. Of course external links will serve their needs before Wikipedia's, but that argument would eliminate all external links of any kind. The Los Gatos Library, by the way, is entirely owned and operated by the town.Adallas (talk) 17:28, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

text: I don't have strong objections to the library link, but the guidelines are Wikipedia's, not mine. Blogs are very POV and subject to no one but the author's views, biases and desires. There's good reason why they're discouraged in the extern links section. If you object to it, I suggest you bring it up on the Policy discussion page. Not very many editors watch this page. You also invite other seasoned editors to join in on this discussion if you like. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 15:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links or new Related Sites section? 

message: The Famous Quotes section added recently is just puns. I propose that this section be deleted, but I don't want to act in haste.Adallas (talk) 00:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be funny, but it's still vandalism. Removed. If you see anything like this please feel free to remove it yourself. --NeilN talk to me 01:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Quotes? 

message: I realize that Los Gatos has higher income neighborhoods that affect the overall city's profile; but is it really necessary to cite a ranking at the lead of the article?  This might be a significant description to include about the city, but I'm not convinced this is the way to do it.
The current lead includes the following sentence: "According to Bloomberg Businessweek, Los Gatos is ranked the 33rd wealthiest city in the United States.[7]"
Rankings are a popular phenomenon, quoted by all kinds of people, but there's often many problems, if not controversies with them.  They are generally branded news devices and not really considered straight news.  Plus, the way that they're typically formulated is not always easily transparent, has its biases, is subject to great criticism, etc.  But, ultimately, rankings tend to create a framework of assumptions and generalizations, that's not always apparent to lay readers (i.e., those people that typically don't concern themselves with the inside business of civic governance and bureaucracy, as well as the planning and design of a community).   Take for instance one of the more popular rankings and controversies with America's Safest and Most Dangerous Cities as relates to city and towns.  Making a generalized statement at the lead of the article can cause people to overlook Los Gatos' overall diversity, including things like income and geography.  I also have a problem with a company's branded ranking being mentioned right in the lead/introductory paragraph (this case being Bloomberg Businessweek), as that's like an advertisement.  This is primarily how many critics discount rankings, regarding them as a means to draw readers to various media brands.  So, is this reference really necessary?  There's other ways to establish that Los Gatos is a higher income city, such as by citing U.S. Census information and/or other more specific sources that analyze cities and states without simplified rankings (e.g., http://www.city-data.com, U.S. Bureau of Bureau of Economic Analysis at http://www.bea.gov, etc.). Indeed, the city and county itself often provides information.  At that, saying that Los Gotos is one of the "wealthiest cities" in the U.S. is rather erroneous.   What kind of wealth?  When looking at the title of the citation, it mentions "zip codes," which seems to allude to household income…. but, it's anyone's guess.  Could the reader also assume municipal revenue, debt, productivity, etc.?  In any concern, the existing link is broken, not directing to the citation. Ca.papavero (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Well , I dunno what to say other than WP:LEAD says that the first few sentences of the article's Lead should be used to establish its Notability. How its done is based on what is in the article and how its sourced, but from what I know about LG, its full of upper income/personal worth individuals and households. So maybe the Lead is lacking for substance, but what is there is not inaccurate. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺
 01:29, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

text: I am familiar with WP:LEAD standards and I'm actually discussing it simultaneously on another article.   And if you do read that, then you should take my points, well beyond "notability." I indeed already acknowledged that there's higher income neighborhoods in Los Gatos, per my own knowledge and experience of this community.  But, you're missing my point here.   As I said, it's how you reference it, as well as to what source, etc.  I said nothing about the lead/intro paragraph "lacking for substance," as those are your words.  Nevertheless, it is somewhat "inaccurate," in as much as I've described that it does not well articulate what it calls "wealth," versus household income or whatever the case.  And, again, we cannot know what exactly is meant, if the link to this citation is broken and the source not found!  (And by the way, I am more than familiar with Los Gatos, as I live nearby, as well as have worked there and so on.) Ca.papavero (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not necessary to cite the ranking in the intro.  If you wish, , you could move the information down into the Economy or Demographics sections.  There's also a lot that could be added to the intro.  It sounds like you're asking for permission.  That's not how Wikipedia works in general.  I encourage anyone who thinks s/he can improve the article to be bold.—Stepheng3 (talk) 21:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: City & Town Rankings, as cited in article, esp. re. "wealth"

message: There's a subject I've always known to be tied to Los Gatos' history, but needs some work before it's got enough proof to go on Wikipedia. It's the story of Los Gatos being named one of the healthiest places on earthhttps://www.realtown.com/LiveInLosGatos/blog/los-gatos-history/how-are-los-gatos-california-and-aswan-egypt-alike only for sick homes to pop up to handle the swift increase in sick arriving for the good weather,http://www.losgatos.com/1998/09/doctors-prescribed-los-gatos-climate/ and then a rise in mortuaries when that didn't work.http://www.countyhistorian.com/knol/4hmquk6fx4gu-346-haunted-los-gatos-the-funeral-hom.html Has anyone else heard of this, or know the best way to convey it on a Wiki page as opposed to an anecdote? BlinksTale (talk) 00:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  From healthiest weather to mortuaries 

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