Talk:Gangs in New Zealand

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# Hall a hive of activity for Killer Bees gang
#Main NZ Herald page for info
We currently have nz gang related articles at:
#Black Power (New Zealand)
#Mongrel Mob
Mathmo Talk 08:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm...  gangs are involved in organising after parties, interesting. Didn't realise that, and I've been involved in running after school parties too for school kids.  Anyway, could be worked into the wide and diverse range of areas they are involved in. Mathmo Talk 23:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I agree that the articles should be merged. Some gangs are nationwide, and no argument has been made that those established purely in the South Island had a unique culture.-gadfium 07:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger with [[Gangs in the South Island]]

message: It is 30 years in a few weeks time since the Stormtroopers Gang in Moerewa self destructed. They smashed up the Okaihau Pub, then went back to Moerewa where some of the younger ones broke shop windows to lure the police to the scene, first from Kawakawa and then backup from Whangarei etc. Big battle between outnumbered cops and Stormies, with a sergeant being thrown into the burning dog van, one Stormie shot, a policeman so badly injured he was invalided out of the force, broken glass and blood to breakfast, Stormies joyriding around in the fire engine after walloping the firemen, etc. Only good thing to come out of it was that more than 20 Stormies were jailed (including, unfortunately, some who were wearing patches at the scene but did not take part in the mayhem). Split up into two groups for separate Supreme Court  hearings in Auckland. Contrary to a couple of reports, Black Power was never involved in that Moerewa riot. They would have been well and truly dealt to by the mofos at Moerewa had they ventured onto their turf.  It was later, after the Stormies had all gone to stay with Her Majesty, that the Blacks smashed every window and cut every petrol hose at the Atlantic service station in Moerewa. The Stormtroopers never recovered as a gang in the north again, except maybe as an insignificant group at Dargaville.
And oh yes, what I came here to say was, merge. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 22:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The merge happened about a year ago.-gadfium 23:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Almost 30 years since the Stormies got their beans up north

message: Somebody keeps adding the Hammerskins (Hammer Skinheads) to the ethnic gangs list. The Hammerskins were a neo-Nazi white power skinhead gang who used to have a few members around the country at its peak; particularly in Christchurch, Wellington and Auckland. However it has disbanded these days with no members left and should not be listed as a gang.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Duckyboi (talk • contribs) 20 February 2010
:Hammerskins (or ex-Hammerskins) are present in the Lower North Island, and still wearing HS insignia. (Nicely silkscreened logos on sweatshirts, etc). A member recently moved to Napier. On being asked what group the insignia represented, the apparent leader said it was from "an old club". (With a whole carload of identically dressed men). So perhaps they are making a comeback, or morphing into a different group.121.75.74.131 (talk) 07:06, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Hammerskins

message: Just recently Sinn Fein MC from Wellington has patched over to Headhunters and no longer exists  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duckyboi (talk • contribs) 15:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you at least give a year? "Recently" is far too vague.-gadfium 19:37, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Thanks.-gadfium 05:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sinn Fein

message: I have added the King Cobras to the section of prominent gangs, although they maintain no other chapters outside of Auckland, they as a whole have a large presence within Auckland. If your going to add the Hells Angels who are reported no more than 30 reputed full members in New Zealand, The numbers of the Cobra's is consistenly larger and have been reported in numerous sources in the herald.
I have provided references in the article, will be happy to build more to this topic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasow187 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, nice work.-gadfium 20:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  King Cobras addition 

message: This entire article has been documented on mostly subjective belief, almost all of it.  Because of that undeniable, ironically enough, fact, this should not be on Wikipedia at all.  --  THE2013MARLONBRANDO  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.251.192.77 (talk) 21:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed all the newspaper articles on these subjects could be utilised for evidence entry into each gang name in a methodical relevant way. Should Catholic Church and other crypto-groups be included using para-published materials as gangs? Text mdnp (talk) 07:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Inclusion criteria for Wikipedia is notability and verifiability, not subjective belief. In other words, prove it. - 210.86.82.145 (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Subjective belief" 

message: Mongrel Mob origins..... Wairoa, Hawkes Bay was the birthplace of the Mongrel Mob. Early 1970s a local publication in Wairoa depicted the local 10-12 unemployed Māori boys hanging around the streets and making a nuisance of themselves as a 'Mob of Mongrels'.
They were forced out of the local township and made their way to Wellington, where their first President of Mongrel Mob was also attending Teachers College, one of the first Māori to attend it. 2403:4800:7484:4060:41EB:79AD:45C6:DBC1 (talk) 18:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any coverage of this in reliable sources? We currently are using Jarrod Gilbert's book Patched as our source at Mongrel Mob.-gadfium 19:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mongrel Mob Origins