Talk:Benjamin Lee Whorf

message: Despite the discussion above, it seems like the bibliography was never actually moved here. So here it is then, after all. Junes 12:47, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bibliography

message: This article states that  his theory of linguistic relativity, which he developed with Edward Sapir. Nowadays, this theory is often misrepresented as being synonymous with the "Sapir–Whorf hypothesis", which was in fact a posthumous appellation, referring to a number of Whorf's ideas on top of linguistic relativity,, but Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis redirects to linguistic relativism, in an article which states they are the same thing.
Which one is correct? (I don't know enough myself, but as a user I can see that clearly one of the articles is wrong.) VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 01:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This one is the less than accurate article -  I will take care of this shortly.·Maunus·ƛ· 05:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you! VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 05:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction in wiki redirects for relativity and Sapir-whorf 

message: I reverted [this edit] because it does appear to be by Whorf, in Language, Thought and Reality. I can't find a page number, but [here] we can see a number of books citing it as by him, about half before internet memes could spread, and a few rather respectable ones. The revert was done because I think the quote is properly attributed to Whorf, but a page number would be nice for anyone who has a copy of the book... VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 16:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I don't think any of these quoted books are reliable sources - to me it doesn't look like a Whorf quote at at but rather a  (misunderstood) rephrasing of his ideas to fit better as an aforism than what he actually wrote. I also cannot find it in language, thought and reality. For example searching  here gives no hits. Also widely occuring misquotations is not a thing beælonging exclusively to the internet age - that has happened since classical times. ·Maunus·ƛ· 17:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I see what you mean. Of course, the problem with google books is that it is not complete, but then again, I'm a little suspicious that none of the references I found has a page number. There is a possibility that it comes from someone else - Stuart Chase in [Harpers] in 1954. I don't have a subscription so I can't check the article. As it is, I'll bow to your better knowledge of Whorf's writing.VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 18:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whorf Quote 

message: Alford 1981 p. 21 cites a 1941 Radio Speech by Einstein in which he says: "What is it that brings about such an ultimate connection between language and thinking?... The mental development of the individual and his ability to form concepts depend to a high degree upon language. This makes us realize to what extent the same language means the same mentality." He then goes on to analyze the parallels between Whorf's presentation of the linguistic relativity principle and Einsteins' principle of general relativity in depth. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Einstein

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