Talk:Thrace

message: *من از بيگانگان هرگز ننالم 
*كه با من هر چه كرد آن آشنا كرد —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.234.145.72 (talk • contribs) 07:20, 13 October 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this... Farsi? Please write in English. --Joy [shallot]
--No that is Persian. It is a poem destined for one of the members. It was the best way to make him understand the message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.234.145.72 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 14 October 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:   Persian and Farsi are the same language, aren't they?  --Khalil78 14:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

text: An English translation (or external links) would be well received.  This is a place of sharing, and poetry has much value.  --Dl33t 22:46, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farsi poem 

message: I removed it because in the end of page i have the sources about the thracian relation with greeks in customs & language
I think Thracians do not necessary have to be Greek. Many Bulgarians and Turks also associate with this identity. As such, I do not understand why from the Famous Thracians section you keep removing Ataturk, probably one of the most famous Thracians. When you have Kara Thrace ( from Battlestar Galactica of all places) right up there. 
No I think there is too much Greek Nationalism that is seeping into some of the decisions in this page, which is also the exact same reason all the minorities have left the beautiful city of Thessaloniki.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thracian2005 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Thracians, Greeks

message: The map is difficult to get anything out of.  Could someone please include a textual description of the geographic region involved?  —James S. 07:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clicking on the image in the article will give you a closer view, though I blew up the image here on the Talk Page. The map does not represent the pre-Roman situation, since "Moesia superior" and "Moesia inferior" were outlined by the Romans. The outline that the map gives (basically of Roman Thrace) approximates to pre-Roman classical Thrace. Alexander 007 07:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map hard to read 

message: Is this the official Coat of arms of Thraki in Ellada? Miko Stavrev 19:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I am aware, this is not a CoA of the region of Thrace, but rather the emblem of a Greek frigate named "Thrace". Greek regions generally don't have coats of arms or distinctive heraldry, and the particular CoA is definitely "military-style" (flag, Nice of Samothrace, triangular shield etc). Therefore I remove it.Cplakidas 14:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Greek Thrace 

message: Hello!  Given ongoing discussions and recent edit warring, a poll is currently underway to decide the rendition of the lead for the Republic of Macedonia article.  Please weigh in! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 01:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Republic of Macedonia#POLL: Introduction for Republic of Macedonia article|POLL: Introduction for Republic of Macedonia article]] 

message: Kathryn Ann Sackhoff
Katee Sackhoff
Kara_Thrace
Battlestar_Galactica_%28TV_series%29
Hopiakuta 17:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need links. 

message: --Greasysteve13 06:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it should, because Thrace is the most common name for it. Anatolia refers to Asian Turkey. —Khoikhoi 06:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But this also refers to Greek and Bulgarian Thrace. I typed European Turkey with Turkey on the mind, not Greece an Bulgaria.--Greasysteve13 07:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that's probably because Turkish Thrace is the same thing as Eastern Thrace, which redirects here. Northern Thrace and Western Thrace seem to have their own articles. —Khoikhoi 07:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.--Greasysteve13 10:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it doesn't now.--Greasysteve13 03:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should "[[European Turkey]]" really link here? 

message: The "Culture" section includes a really odd passage with no cites:
:Thracian society was patriarchal. Polygamy was standard and men considered women placed on earth to please them. [citation needed] Thracians considered death an honor and accepted it as a natural part of life. [citation needed] The Thracians were extremely proud people. If a man's father was murdered, it was considered practical to slaughter the murderer, his family (extended), and his livestock. [citation needed] Also, upon the death of a husband, the wives would fight over who was loved more by the deceased. Usually determined by the winner of a match to the death. The wives would tie their left legs together and fight with strips of cowhide and a staff. The winner of this deathmatch would then commit suicide and be given the honor of being buried at the right hand of her husband. [citation needed]
Whoa!  My spider-sense is tingling!  I'm guessing this is not legit information.  I've removed it for now.  If someone finds a source for this, maybe it can be returned; as it is, it just looks silly.  --GenkiNeko 15:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture Section 

message: The ancient history section reads in sort of a cobbled-together fashion.  It repeats itself a bit, and jumps back and forth in the narrative.  I'm going to tag it -- I just wanted to explain why.  I would reorganize it myself, but don't have enough time right now. Larry Dunn 14:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient History section 

message: This article has no proper map for people to see the boundaries of Thrace. I propose we incorporate this map: --Waterfall999 08:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Image has been added--Waterfall999 11:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAP 

message: * 2,400-year-old golden mask unearthed
* Ling.Nut 20:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  thracian archaeological find 

message: My map my map offers more info and is better looking than jigiby's jingiby's.I suggest we use only mineMegistias (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map selection 

message: A sock, which was not active around a year, now again under a name ITSENJOYABLE is making disruptive edis, reverting the information from Enciclopedia Britannica about the borders of Thrace without reliable explaination. Please, provide your logical motivation to revert Britannica. Jingby (talk) 12:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please refrain from insulting. Perhaps you mother or your father is a "sock"... Anyway, it were my edits which brought clarity to this article (by using references for the first time it the articles history), including the ones regarding Thrace's borders. ITSENJOYABLE (talk) 12:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

text: What's the logic behind pastiche-ing Britannica's vague content? ITSENJOYABLE (talk) 13:21, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borders of Thrace 

message: ::Thracia should redirect to Roman Thrace, which was Thracia, anywaysMegistias (talk) 10:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thracia 

message: Why is the German name of Thrace given in the lead section?  Does Thrace have a historic German population?  Fishal (talk) 04:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  German? 

message: Mehmed II Ottoman Sultan, born at Edirne in Thrace; he was the Sultan who invaded Constantinople??
Bayezid II Ottoman Sultan??
how these otomans could be trakians for god sake? They are different etno, linguo and antropo-group. I suggest you show sources that some one called these turks trakians or they called themself that way or i will suggest these names for deletion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix1129 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous trakians??? 

message: To a non-expert like myself, the section heading Famous Thracians and people from Thrace does not make sense. 
(a) What is the difference between "Thracians" and "people from Thrace"?
and
(b) If there is a difference, is the difference important enough to justify using both phrases for such a short section? 
– Corinne (talk) 20:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The above comment is utter rot, written long, long after the Third Slave Revolt.  All we know of Spartacus are his deeds during the revolt, and the very short comments by the contemporary Roman and Greek historians that he was Thracian.  All the later accounts are generally dismissed as pure fiction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.199.0 (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Thracians and people from Thrace 

message: This section seems all kinds of messed up.
1. The assertion that Thrace was once called "Europe" and is the origin of the name of the continent doesn't seem reliable. Aside from the source cited, I could find nothing else referencing this. The BBC article cited is not historical or geographic, but a news report about bank notes, the only mention of a Europe/Thrace connection in the caption of an image. Hardly a reliable source for this information.
2. "The region obviously took the name of the principal river there, Hebros, probably from the Indo-European arg "white river"" This sentence is terrible. Is it indicating that the name "Europe" or that the name "Thrace" is derived from the river "Hebros". Secondly, how is this obvious? I am not a linguist, so I see no obvious etymological connection between the words "Hebros" and either "Europe" or "Thrace". If these words are, in fact, etymologically related then the etymology itself should be explained clearer, as the cited source on this explains nothing in this regard.
50.141.103.35 (talk) 23:41, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Its earliest form was added by an IP about 6 months back, per this diff - . A mess. Despite subsequent good faith attempts by various editors, it remains tendentious, filled with uncited claims. The material claimed the support of a single reliable source   - a good source, seemingly. But the source makes none of the cited claims. Rather, it explicitly warns against using myth-as-history to assert possible historical developments in viticulture. The section seems to hang by a very slender thread.  I'd like to remove it altogether. What do others think? Is ancient Thracian wine-culture sufficiently known and significant to justify having such a section to itself? Wikipedia's Wine article barely mentions Thrace. Haploidavey (talk) 14:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged the section, and the whole article for references - Thrace is an important topic, and this article is sadly insufficient. 50.111.63.109 (talk) 11:06, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. Actually, the section on wine might as well go. If sources can be found to justify the heading, all well and good. While I'm here - the Spartacus business is yet another sore point. It's impossible to know whether he was ethnically Thracian or simply a Thracian-type gladiator (though some Roman sources say he was a murmillo type). I guess all we can do is make clear that Roman sources said he was Thracian by birth or ethnicity.  Haploidavey (talk) 11:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article section [[Thrace|Thracians and wine]] 

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message: Thrake Thrace is not Indo-European, cause this Pseudo-Hypothese is unproven and since years refutef. 
The Tracians are an ancient greek tribe. < Mecedonians < Dorians from Arcadia. Thrancian Dialekt < ancientgreek Dorian Dialekt. Daciens and Getae are Thracian descendants with pelsagian roots. Thracians went to Minor Asia and foundet there Phrygia and named themselves Phrygs and later Trojans. Thracian is in Scythian to find. The word Thrace from the verb throsko to arise up. Ion. Thrax Thressa, dor. Thrax Thrassa, TH = divine + R = streaming, flowing = THR streaming, flowing to the direction Divine. GIve the greek Work Threskia for Religion.   Thressa the highpristress of the Cabeirian Mysteries, were thracian women, receiving with Enthusiasm the holy Mania. Verb threomai threo for scremaning.
Examples the word water in  mac. / thac. is apa, in lith. upe. The Getae is maced. G Getas , myk. Ketas.  Trac. / Dor. S an att. K in Sara and Kara for highest end, head. The S / K exchange refutes the propagandistic ideologically Pseudo-indo-european-hypothese. Mak. city Βεργη Berge and the minor asian city Perge Περγη, engl.Bourgh germ. Burg for Fortress. The MAc. Philippos and thr. Bilippos Wilippos PH/B W exchange.  
Evros from the helleno-pelasgian root EFos Eos Lightbringerin dawn.  AF-Jos : Ayge Auge Avge ray of light, gleam. Like in Ayra Aura Avra an Bravo. Evros gleamin Eastwind Dawn stream. 
It´s not pseudo- Indo-european.
The Namens, Genaologys, Theo- and Toponyms are all greek. 2A01:C22:B191:8200:2061:8D5A:31AC:D0A0 (talk) 08:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology