Talk:Trekkie

message: How long should the list be?
Here's a link upon my Trekkie message board pertaining thereto...
*StarTrekFans.net's List of Known or Suspected Trekkies/Trekkers
::Here's Takara's latest...
    * Colin Powell
    * Dahlai Lama
    * Tom Hanks
    * Dr. Mae Jamieson
    * Neil Armstrong
    * Jean Simmons (actress)
    * Paul Sorvino
    * Mira Sorvino
    * Berkeley Breathed (cartoonist - Opus, Bloom County)
    * Bill Amend (cartoonist - Fox Trot)
    * Seth McFarlane (creator of Family Guy)
    * Bill Gates
    * Al Gore
    * Eddie Murphy
    * Jason Alexander
    * Dr. Stephen Hawking
    * Scott Adams (cartoonist - Dilbert)
    * Isaac Asimov
    * Laurell K. Hamilton
    * Douglas Adams
    * Carol Moseley Braun
    * Christan Slater
    * Whoopi Goldberg
    * Most, if not all, of NASA
    * Most, if not all, of Microsoft
    * George Noory
    * Art Bell
    * Marc Scott Zicree
    * Ben Browder
    * Rockne S. O'Bannon
    * Charles M. Schulz
    * King Abdullah of Jordan
    * Vin Diesel
    * John Glenn
    * Mel Gibson
    * Sally Ride
    * Mick Fleetwood
    * James Worthy
    * Bebe Neuworth
    * Kelsey Grammer
    * Tom Morello
    * Martin Luther King Jr.
    * Arthur C. Clarke
    * Rod Serling
    * Trey Parker
    * Matt Stone
    * Howard Stern
    * Will Smith
    * Iggy Pop
    * Ben Stiller
    * Conan O'Brien
    * Kirstie Alley
    * Tom Bergeron
    * Beastie Boys
    * Kevin Newman
    * Richard Dean Anderson
    * Drew Carey
    * Eric McCormack
    * Weird Al Yankovic
    * Joss Whedon
    * Mel Brooks
    * Robert Atkins
    * Kathy Lee Gifford
    * Paul "Big Show" Wight
    * George Lucas
    * Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
    * Tim Allen
    * Neal McDonough
    * Barry Manilow
    * Robin Williams
    * Paul McGillion
    * Jim Meddick (cartoonist - Monty)
    * Dave Foley
    * David Hewlett
    * Number of people at Pixar Animation
    * late Douglas Adams
    * Alan Keyes (Repulican Senate candidate, Illinois)
    * Dennis Haysbert
    * Brad Paisley
    * Jim Davidson
    * Jonathan Ross
    * The Wiggles
    * Someone working on the kids' series Big Comfy Couch
    * Jane Wiedlin (formerly of the GoGo's)
    * David Reddick (cartoonist)
    * Kevin Sorbo
    * Tony Danza
    * Bryan Singer
    * David X. Cohen
    * Alec Newman
    * Someone in charge at Beavis and Butthead
    * Jon Stewart
    * Rick Rashid
    * Steven Harper
DrWho42 04:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmm, sorry that I didn't know about this article before posting the above. DrWho42 04:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Celebrity Trekkies 

message: I don't want to be known as a Trekkie OR a Trekker!!  I don't care where Lt. Barclay was born or Spock's last name.  I just enjoy the great stories in the shows.  They are fine drama that happen to take place in the 'sci-fi' future.  So---I want to anounce here and now that I AM A TREKFAN!!  T`sitra Yel Darb 19:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Spock is his last name.. =P Although his first name is nearly unpronounceable to humans, but I get your drift.DrWho42 00:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TREKFAN

message: This already has its own article and therefore does not belong here, except in a 'see also' section. Furthermore, as illustrated above on this talk page, there is no good way to determine how long it should be or who should or should not be included in this list. Therefore I have removed the list. As of 2/20/06, it read like this:
 ==Well-known Trekkies==
 :Main article: List of notable Star Trek fans
 Well-known trekkies include:
 *Bjo Trimble, who helped spearhead the letter writing campaign that convinced NBC to continue Star Trek for a third season
 *Gabriel Köerner, who was also a profilee on Trekkies; he went on to guest star on The Drew Carey Show and as the "Star Trek Geek" on the game show Beat the Geeks
 *Bob Rajic, who had cosmetic surgery to look like William Shatner and was the subject of the film Auto Destruct: One Man's Obsession with William Shatner
 Celebrity Star Trek fans include:
 *Isaac Asimov
 *Tom Bergeron, host of Hollywood Squares and America's Funniest Home Videos, guest star on Enterprise
 *Phillip J. Fry, fictitious character on Futurama
 *Bill Gates, who dressed up as Spock one Halloween
 *Whoopi Goldberg, who played the role of Guinan in Star Trek: The Next Generation
 *Al Gore, former Vice President of the United States
 *Kelsey Grammer, who guest starred in the Next Generation epidode "Cause and Effect" and performed an uncredited voiceover in Star Trek: First Contact
 *Tom Hanks, who was considered for the role of Zefram Cochrane in Star Trek: First Contact, but had to turn it down due to a conflict
 *Stephen Hawking, who played himself on the Next Generation episode "Descent"
 *Dennis Haysbert, actor on 24
 *Seth MacFarlane, creator of and voices on Family Guy, and two-time guest star on Enterprise
 *Eddie Murphy, who nearly starred in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
 *Richard Rashid
 *Ben Stiller, actor, writer, and comedian
 *Bryan Singer, director of The Usual Suspects, the first two X-Men films and Superman Returns. Singer actually had a brief cameo as a bridge officer in Star Trek: Nemesis.
Instead, let's add a "See also" section and put the reference there. Makaristos 01:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reinstated a section, with a quote about one such fan (with reference).  I leave it to others to cite sources for others who might merit a mention.  72.244.206.119 13:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted list of well-known Trekkies 

message: okay, tons of stuff in here was obviously made working from a book or article, but that article doesn't have it's place in the references section. Needs to be fixed. Lotusduck 22:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations needed, citation style off 

message: More as a comment in the approach to Trek documentation [and undoubtedly most fictional works documented on Wikipedia], these kinds of statements not only fall under "OR," but it does the term "research" a bad turn:
"They probably own, or perhaps have helped create, the blueprints for various Federation starships, have explanations for all apparent contradictions, such as why in Next Generation episode 5.24, "The Next Phase," in which some characters were incorporeal beings, they could still breathe and were affected by artificial gravity and floors."
And the idea of "notable star trek fans" in an article that mentions at length the pejorative aspect of the phrase seems little more than an attempt at glorification, seeing as I'm sure there are "notable" fans for a lot of the fictional works here on wikipedia and yet those lists do not exist; not to say that the absence in itself does all the telling, but I imagine there'd be quite some resistance if one were to, say, add a list of "notable shakespeare fans," or, perhaps more relevant to "pop" culture, "notable star wars fans," or batman, or [insert whatever the hell].russ. 12:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: among other ridiculous assertions

message: I have moved this material here:
 
For adherents to Star Trek canon, the case that "Trekkie" is the correct term was settled once and for all by Roger Nygard, the director of the 1997 documentary film Trekkies. In a post on the official website for the documentary, Nygard cited Gene Roddenberry's former assistant and Star Trek researcher as the source for the following:
:Gene (Roddenberry) didn't recognize the term "Trekker" however. Somebody once corrected him when he used "Trekkie" on stage. He responded, "Excuse me, did you say 'TrekkER?' The word is 'TrekkIE.' I should know, I created them."http://www.trekdoc.com/database/fanfeed/1.htm
 
...until such time as a second, separate source can be found for this statement.  There have been assertions that this person cited by Mr. Nygard frequently put his own words into Gene Roddenberry's mouth, as it were, especially during Mr. Roddenberry's last years of declining health and memory, using Roddenberry's name to foster his own agenda with regard to Star Trek.
-- Davidkevin 20:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  PARAGRAPH SEPARATOR -- IGNORE EXCEPT FOR THAT PURPOSE.  -- Davidkevin 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: ""Trekker" is usually used as a term for the dedicated Star Trek fan with considerable knowledge of the show. The obsessive fan (so considered even amongst Trekkers) with encyclopedic knowledge of show lore, who can identify episodes by the color of the sky, is known as a "Trekist"."
based on the book by the two women who organized the first Trek con. Unfortunately, I haven't got it in front of me, so I can't cite it. Can somebody credit it?  Trekphiler 09:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that's just scary :) Avt tor 09:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've been an active Star Trek fan for 35 years, and not once have  I ever heard or seen anyone use the term "Trekist" until reading Trekphiler's paragraph.  -- Davidkevin 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Good point that one who goes on a Trek is a trekker. Which brings me to why I am here. Trekker redirects to this page. Trekker being a legitimate word meaning - One who treks; thus, a hiker, led me to the assumption that the wikilink trekker would link to the page trek. I caught it in time before blindly placing the link in a new article I had created, but I was wondering if the destination Trekkie was the best redirect. I have heard of this use of the term, but not aware of how common it was. Racerx11 (talk) 03:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trekkie vs. Trekker 

message: Some major parts of this article seem to be lifted from  Particularly the parts on Origins. If someone has the time to weed through the article... RichMac (Talk) 06:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad, the entire blog entry was lifted from here without giving any credit. RichMac (Talk) 08:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-vio 

message: Seems to be ref'd as a big fan. Should he be added to list? - SimonLyall (talk) 10:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added him back. His Star Trek fandom is better documented than many on this list (who seem to often be one-off remarks) and shouldn't be removed just because he is a negative figure. Star Trek delt with terrorism as a matter of course, eg episodes like Chosen Realm. - SimonLyall (talk) 09:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Read his bio, will this link do ? - SimonLyall (talk) 11:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timothy McVeigh]] 

message: Family Guy season seven: Peter takes the family to a Star Trek convention, Stewie kidnaps the cast of TNG using his Transporter made from bluprints aquired at the convention etc. All voiced by the main cast of TNG:
Stewart, Frakes, Spiner, Burton, Dorn, Sirtis, McFaden, Weaton, and even Denise Crosby. The fact that the cast were in the FG ep is surley grounds for adding it? Poll? ZellDenver (talk) 11:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Parodies

message: In the Sci-Fi Channel's information program of "SCI-FI BUZZ",
host Mike Jerrick interviewed Babara Adams by phone.
He asked:
Mike Jerrick: "You weren't kicked off the 
Whitewater Trial for just wearing 
your Star Trek uniform?"
B. Adams: "No I was not kicked off for wearing my
Star Trek uniform...A TV news reporter from another
network kept asking me about my uniform and nothing 
else about the trial....Although, there was not a violation 
and any trial disclosure. The trial judge said he was 
supported of me. Still the rules said no jury member 
could talk to the media about anything."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceman42 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: New stuff goes at the bottom.  Ian.thomson (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trekkies In The News (clarified info) 

message: Hi
I just changed preempted to cancelled (History section, end para. 1)
The body of text states "a Canadian TV station" and had "preempted".
*The ref used has the first report about a TV station, and says "replacement"
*The next report talks about the CBC network calls and says "preempted"
Changed to match the specific TV station report mentioned in the article. Chaosdruid (talk) 13:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preempted 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This entry is confusing Bill Gates for Les Solomon, the one who named the Altair 8800.  Someone needs to provide information about Bill Gates himself being a fan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.151.40 (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Gates's Entry 

message: My two cents. I see there has been conflict over the notable fans sections for many years. Can someone high up just deliver a verdict? I think the section is not only silly and flippant but also poorly written. Whoever sat there and wrote it said everyone “is a huge fan.” That’s sophomoric language for what purports to be an encyclopedia. Alexandermoir (talk) 22:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable fans, recommend truncation or removal 

message: Hi all,
While I understand the humor of the section "other names," I feel that it is not really relevant to the article. Before I delete it, I would like to reach a consensus. A quick google search revealed no source that seems to pass WP:NOR for the information provided. 
NANPLover47 (talk) 04:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: thats what I stumbled over, too, and brought me here. The article is full of small-detail non-information, but this "niner" nonsense tops is all. please remove! 47.71.34.207 (talk) 10:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Names sections (the one that talks about DS9 fans being called niners) 

message: Should this be renamed to Star Trek fandom (currently a redirect here)? It seems like a more apt framing of the discussed phenomenon. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be ideal. Trekkie is the demonym that refers to a Star Trek fan. ―Susmuffin Talk 23:57, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to [[Star Trek fandom]]?