Talk:Olmec influences on Mesoamerican cultures

message: just a quick question concerning the pluralization of the word "Olmec" and other "-ec" ending cultural names.  I was always of the mind that the "-ec" implicitly refers to a pluralized group and, as such, doesn't require the "-s" at the end.  Analogousin some extent to Maya/Mayas/Mayans.  E.g., I never write Olmecs, Aztecs, Zapotecs - I don't know if this right, and it might just be personal preference, but I wanted to get an idea of what some of you other folk out think (I almost started editing the intro paragraph).  Maybe someone with a linguistic background has some insight?  thanks!  -- Oaxaca dan 18:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: About the only guideline/consensus established thus far for these here is to use Maya for both singular and plural nouns as well as the adjectival form, with the exception when talking about languages (in which case Mayan). Like you I habitually drop the esses from the ethnonym plurals, and also avoid what I presume are the Spanish gendered endings (-o/-a) except for a couple of (probably arbitrary) instances such as Mexica or teotihuacano. It might just be a case of personal preference, but would be open to other ideas and input. I recall this being discussed at some point, but I can't for the moment recall where or if there was any conclusion reached. I think that pretty much all of the -ec ethnonyms are hispanicised forms of the nahuatl-language names for these peoples, but am not sure whether these ultimately derive from the "place" grammatical form or the "people from place" one. Probably a bit of both, maybe a nahuatl-savvy contributor like Maunus could explain it better.--cjllw | TALK 04:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Olmec/Olmecs - Aztec/Aztecs

message: I bumped this article's rating up to "High" - considering the topic, how important it is to the study of Mesoamerican cultures (which is kinda what this whole Wikiproject:Mesoamerica thing is kinda about, no?), and so on.  Hope that's cool. -- Oaxaca dan 07:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, totally agree with that. Given the importance of intercultural influences generally, it would be great to have a few others of these, say on central mexican influences, maya influences, &c.--cjllw | TALK 08:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: I think the part qith the quotes by Coe and Diehl give undue weight to the mother culture argument. It presents the quote as if Diehl is somehow an impartial judge here when he is in fact more like a student faithfully defending his mentors ideas. I think that works like Pool, Blomst and Joyce show that rather than "having convinced everyone but the die hard sceptics" the discussion has become close obsolecent and the future will need to recognize a much more nuanced picture of early Olmec interaction with other areas than either the "mother culture" or the "primus inter pares".·Maunus·ƛ· 13:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Coe and Diehl quotes

message: The author of the article cites scholars like Joyce or Townsend, but gives no references for his citations in the reference section. Please adjust!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.45.6.119 (talk) 14:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely right - I am correcting that immediately.·Maunus·ƛ· 15:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing references