Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia/New article announcements

message: Tomorrow, I and my family will fly to Tasmania for a one week vacation. I will be back on March 19. I doubt I would be able to check my mail let alone do some heavy wikiediting. I will appreciate if somebody would do some New Article patrol and report the new Russia-related articles on this board abakharev 08:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikibreak of Alex Bakharev 

message: Hi there, my fellow Wikipedians! A few days ago, I noticed that there's no article on the History of taxation in Russia, which could be an essential part of the Taxation in Russia article. I believe that the history part of the article would be an extremely interesting чтиво, especially if we start with Kievan Rus and the Mongols. I just want to hear your thoughts on this one. KNewman 07:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it is a worthwhile subject although I know nothing about it. --Ghirla -трёп- 07:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Just an idea

message: To whom it may concern, I came across this orphaned disambig page containing only redlinks. Cheers. --Fang Aili talk 20:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's actually mine, as well as a few dozen of other similar disambigs.  Their main purpose is to alert whoever is going to write an article on, say, Sokolsky District in Vologda Oblast, that the name Sokolsky District is ambiguous and to prevent mounds of incorrect cross-links later on (sorting them out post factum is no picnic, trust me on that one :)).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sokolsky District]] 

message: Seeing how this page is the most popular of all of P:RUS subpages, I propose to split each month into three periods instead of two.  November 2006, for example, would be split into November 1-10, November 11-20, and November 21-30.  This would allow for more frequent archiving, thus significantly reducing the page size.  I, with unlimited Internet access, often find this page in its existing form cumbersome to access and edit, and I can only imagine how unwieldy (not to mention costly) it is to folks in Russia with low-speed broadband or even dial-up.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a representative of "folks in Russia with low-speed broadband or even dial-up" I don't find it cumbersome at all. Thanks, Ghirla -трёп- 07:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That statement was not meant to offend, by the way.  I just remembered my hellish experience of accessing and updating this page from Ukraine via a slow broadband connection.  Anyway, case closed, I guess.  Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Archiving proposal

message: Please support my request at Wikipedia:Bot requests#New articles bot. This will save all reporters much time.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New articles bot

message: We need it, so can someone please create a dab page for Lvov? I don't want to mess up Lviv and Lvov family articles and stuff. I'll populate it later. Thanks! KNewman 21:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are going to populate it yourself anyway, then what kind of help are you looking for?  Just start Lvov (disambiguation), and place dablinks pointing to it at the top of Lviv and Lvov family when you are done; that's all there is to it.  Is there something else you need?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Тормознул немного :). Wanted to wipe out Lvov itself :). Thanx! KNewman 18:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't start to imagine how many new friends you'd make if you did that :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lvov dab page

message: Why this page belongs to the portal (i.e. the main space) rather than to the project "Russia"?--Planemo 18:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it was started long before WikiProject Russia was established.  Seemed like the most appropriate place at the time.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

text: And another point: projects are by definition temporary, a portal is lasting. We don't want to discontinue this page just because the project stops. Errabee 16:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why this page belongs to the portal? 

message: Portal:Russia/Did You Know Articles doesn't seem to be maintained recently ... I'm going through Wikipedia:Recent additions to try to find stuff that's been DYK'ed since April 2006. If you're bored, pick an archive number that hasn't been done already and come help =). Will bother sorting by date later maybe. cab 03:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-urgent request 

message: Should we create a list of such people (approx. 4,500 people) or category is really enough? I'd like to hear your comments on this one. I'll post this question on the USSR Portal as well. Cheers! KNewman 18:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heroes of the Soviet Union 

message: Hello. I am planning to write an article on Fyodor Pavlovich Reshetnikov, a Soviet painter. Could you tell me how I ought to transliterate the name into English - Fyodor? Fedor? Feodor? Thank you. - Tragic Baboon (banana receptacle) 20:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question on "Fyodor" 

message: Could we somehow visually distinguish the articles found by the bot, please?  , or make them small, for example?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't talk for everyone, but for me the difference between the articles directly announced by our editors and the articles found by the bot boils down to differences between content and maintenance.  Editors who announce their articles directly are usually those who have been around for a while and who know what it is to be expected of Russia-related encyclopedic articles.  Such articles are usually already well-written, even though they may be incomplete.  On the other hand, the articles found by the bot are usually written by the people for whom Russia is only a side interest, or by newbies.  Such articles are often in need of heavy copyediting and fact-checking.  They are usually poorely formatted and/or structured and require a lot of work to bring them up to standards.  With that in mind, quickly differentiating between these two sets may be useful.  I suggested highlighting the bot articles so they would stand out as those needing more work.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More on the bot

message: I would like to create a list of people who have been stripped of the title of the Hero of the Soviet Union for whatever reason, but I'm not sure how to name it. It comes out kinda long. How about List of people stripped of the Hero of the Soviet Union title? Or maybe List of people stripped of the title of the Hero of the Soviet Union? Any ideas? KNewman 19:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are people who voluntarily rejected the Hero title (I can quite imagine that there might be such ones), I would suggest the article title List of former Heroes of the Soviet Union. `'mikka 23:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting point, I'll look into it. Anyway, even those officially stripped of the title would fit nicely into the Former Heroes category. KNewman 07:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: To answer KNewman's question regarding Citizendium in today's urgent announcements: don't worry about it.  Citizendium is too restrictive in accepting editors, so they will never have as many as Wikipedia.  Then, there is a question of operating under one's real name—quite a few people (including yours truly) will never agree to that.  Finally, the most important point is that Citizendium will operate under the same GFDL license as Wikipedia, which will make it extremely easy to feed whatever articles Citizendium produces back to Wikipedia, thus turning it into yet another source of information (hopefully, high quality).  I don't see how they can play on even ground with Wikipedia, yet alone overtake it.  Essentially, Citizendium a facelifted Nupedia, and we all now just how much encyclopedic content that one produced.
Of course, I reserve the right to be completely wrong about all this, so don't shovel this post under my nose in five years if things for some reason develop in a completely different way :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citizendium

message: Stumbled across this "river" in Kamchatka. Is there such a river there? Anyone? KNewman 19:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Prodded.  If this river exists, it's probably a pretty small one.  In its current form, the article does not have enough information to start any further research.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kosovoy]]

message: *Please take a look at a rather weird expansion of "Pomors". `'Míkka>t 17:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Long answer. First source www.pomor-rus.org, nice site, but does not seem very serious as a source. Blog by Ivan Moseev. As a linguist, I was basically interested in the language bits, but did notice that one of the reasons why Pomors cannot be Russian is that they are not Slavs genetically. Some of Moseesv's language rules had me worried. When did he make them up? As far as I know pronouncing the "g" in the genitive as "v" is standard modern Russian, so it is not a marked difference between the two "languages". The strongest proof for the claim that Pomor is a different language is the assertion that Russian uses Primor'e and not Pomor'e for an area close to the sea (my Dutch-Russian dictionary, a mastodonth that cost me more than 100 euros begs to differ, both seem OK). The fact that many words used by Pomors do not exist in Finnish or Russian is used as an argument for a non-Finnish, non-Slavic ethnic origin. Very doubtful. I thought for a moment that someone was preparing for a Pomor Wikipedia, until I noticed the dates in the Guest book and in the updating line. All pointing to the end of 2007. I therefore suppose that this "source" is connected with this, particularly if you note this. Since there are no sources quoted on the site either, I suppose this does not create any verifiability or notoriety. I still have to look at the other site, quoted once (zbook-pomorland), which seems to have taken over in 2007, with another leader: Pavel Yesilov. --Paul Pieniezny (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Checked the second one. Obviously identical problems. The chief difficulty for these guys is that when talking in public (and getting into the papers) they are far more moderate than what you see on their website, and how they reply to the guest book visitors is even more radical than their fixed text, so they cannot establish verifiablity for their more extreme views as seen on the blogs used as source in this article now. Russophobes will claim they are afraid of persecution by Vladimir Vladimirovich, but I'd rather think they are afraid of being made into the laughing stock of Archangelsk. So, I am in favour of taking it out of the Wikipedia article and moving their POV to an article about the autonomy group, since it is clear that that group has attained some notoriety (see the article I quoted above). An article about the group may also make it easier to use their blog as source. On Russian census papers both "Pomor" and "Kozak" are subgroups of "Russian", so all the number of people quoted as Pomor actually also said they were Russian. Only FIVE (yes, FIVE, out of 6571) Pomors could be found at the last census who claimed they did not speak Russian (=a lower percentage than among Russians by the way, and counterintuitively you have 4 non-Russian speakers in towns and only one on the countryside, suggesting the limits to the revolt of the "natives"). Mentioning that because I cannot see these facts anywhere, not in the original text either. --Paul Pieniezny (talk) 12:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, Evropa is indeed a very... weird publishing house, to put it mildly, and the author is an ethnic Ossetian politologist rather than some impartial historian. In its present form the article has a lot of problems other than verifiability. If the information is verifiable, the article should be about the region rather than about "a term" (otherwise notability should be established much more firmly, as irredentist terms are not inherently notable). Colchicum (talk) 07:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I first thought I should agree with you when I found practically nothing through library search. After a lot of library searching, only Halle Uni in Germany (they have a Caucasus Institute there) and Tallinn University (of all places) seem to have a copy of the thing. Then I checked a Japanese university and found one which claimed to have a reserve copy with a different ISBN.  but printed in 2006. Wouldn't the fact that it was reprinted one year later, say something about the way it was received in academic circles? In any case, the 2006 version is better traceable than the 2007 one and I know now that I can even get this book from a Belgian library, and they are not very keen on buying books in Russian, overhere.  ()Üñţïf̣ļëŗ, what do you think about mentioning the older ISBN number, since the value of the book has been questioned? --Paul Pieniezny (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think nothing )) I've copied this ISBN from User:Kuban_kazak/sb, but I did not verify it. For me it has no sence. as I havent access to them anyway.--Üñţïf̣ļëŗ (see also:ә? Ә!) 11:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it is always better to quote the latest version of a book, but when it is called obscure, the mere fact that it is available at serious universities and other libraries (eg the 2006 book is readily available at Stockholm libraries, but the 2007 version is not found) gives a better impression already. I've corrected the Belgian link above by the way. I can get it in 15 days, if I want. ULB also led me to this reference about the book. I support your re-name by the way. --Paul Pieniezny (talk) 12:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion about Pomors

message: Monika Leová lives in the Czech Republic. Why the hell does the bot display her here? This Czech girl of Vietnamese origin has nothing in common with WP:WikiProject Russia. --Janggun Dungan (talk) 12:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monika Leová