Talk:Hand/Archive 1

message: I removed this sentence because opossums aren't anywhere near Daubentoniidae taxonomically:
Other than opossums (Daubentoniidae), lemurs (Daubentoniidae) and the now extinct dinosaurs, this is a unique feature. 
-phma 13:39, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled sections

message: Yeah, this section on common uses in the english language needs to go.  What about "hand" the verb?  What about the adjective "handy"?  How about just adding a link to the wiktionary article.
And why does the hand in the picture in the upper right of the page have a ring on one of its fingers?  People don't naturally have rings.  I don't wear a ring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.137.57 (talk)  at 23:33, June 2, 2005 (UTC)
:I agree, it has little to do with the subject of hands, is more suited to Wiktionary, is completely unreferenced, is very incomplete, and is somewhat inaccurate.  I have removed it, but am copying it to the talk page. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs) 15:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hand

message: In order to emphasize the point that hands aren't exclusively a human phenomenon, it would be nice to see some pictures of hands of other primates, whether they be apes, monkeys, lemurs, etc. --saforrest 21:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other primates

message: The first person voice is inappropriate, especially since the article may be read by people without hands. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 17:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First person

message: The references section says, among the references, the article needs references. Something isn't right here. And above the warning box is the odd text 'ABC LTD'. What's that?
Lots42 19:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The bones of the wrist section (and maybe other sections as well) on this page is backwards.  It puts the scaphoid on the medial side on the wrist when the scaphoid is actually closest to the thumb.  First of all, in the anatomical position of the body, the thumb is lateral (see http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/terminologyanatposition.htm and many other pages).  Second, a lot of people using Wiki aren't going to know this, so it would be clearer to say that the scaphoid is on the side closest to the thumb.  As an aside, arrows on that x-ray would be nice showing the bones.  Or what about an overlay? Maybe one copy without the drawn-in overlay and one copy with?  The Pisiform is particularly confusing (where'd they go? how'd you get four bones in the proximal row?) in an anterior view X-ray, and the Hook of Hamate would be nice to see as it is functional.  A0900 20:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anatomical position

message: Does anyone have any more detailed info on this? It is mentioned briefly in the article but it doesn't mention where or how is it measured...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.146.9 (talk) 00:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See the added image. JohnABerring27A (talk) 17:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Average hand size

message: All the fingers have it, odd the thumb is left out. Шизомби (talk) 05:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The word is pollex. I'm not comfortable adding it myself because I'm not sure if the thumb is a finger in English so I don't know how to phrase it – right now, the article mentions that there are four fingers, and at the same time talks about the thumb and other fingers. It confuses me. Phizq (talk) 09:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  med./lat. for Thumb? 

message: Missing from this article is the palm and heel of the hand. --Una Smith (talk) 21:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What would the "heel of the hand" be? --Joe de Coy (talk) 16:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing

message: The section ‘Muscles and tediagrams, showing how you extend or flex your fingers, and why certain movements are impossible. That would help a lot because this is essentially spatial information that is much more easily captured by an image than a block of text. So if there is someone who knows how the hand works, pleasew some diagrams. Doesn't have to be very artistic in a first version, I'm sure I or some other person could transform the sketches in nice SVG diagrams. 82.139.87.89 (talk) 12:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section hard to follow - diagrams would be nice 

message: without rings?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.158.152 (talk) 05:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  If there were a photo pair without ring of equal quality, I could agree on that. But when looking at the available photos on commons I could not spot a suitable replacement. -- Klaus with K (talk) 18:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please someone put a more proper/encyclopedic picture 

message: I request editing in order to add the Haitian creole equivalent to the list of languages in the left-side column. RajkiandrisRajkiandris (talk) 06:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing language 

message: The article mentions other primates, and how some, like the koala, have appendages similar to hands, but most rodents as well as flying squirrels have hand-like paws that are genetically related to our hands, distinct digits and the ability to grab stuff. I mean, appendages that are similar to hands coincidentally or functionally are one thing, but these guys share more genetic code with us in these "paws" that have common ancestry with our hands, so it might be worth saying something in that respect here. When I see a mouse, a squirrel or a rat, I feel more tempted to say they have hands than paws or claws. They even have rough thumbs. I suppose in general these are called "paws" because they're "animals", but that's more cultural and historical in general than scientific or biological. Who is like God? (talk) 23:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rodents and other not-so-distant relatives 

message: Sorry for the red link in my edit summary, I meant to link to WP:NOTGALLERY.  I think the gallery in this article is already a problem and if we are going to add to it then we should have a specific good reason.--Taylornate (talk) 15:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a gallery 

message: The aspect ratio appears to be off, squishing the top view.  I think we should correct that.  Ideally the user who created the work would do it over so we don't have to make a guess at it.--Taylornate (talk) 15:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  main photo 

message: While many people refer to the dorsel of the hand as the back, the front of the hand can actually be argued as the fingertips with the rear being the portion which connects to your body.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.112.42 (talk) 21:32, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard anyone use that designation.--Taylornate (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Actually, the hand surgeons I've worked with also prefer to use names instead of numbers because it is more clear to them as well. The proper names are thumb, index finger, long finger, ring finger, and small finger. I would support changing any remaining digit-number references.--Taylornate (talk) 03:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. I wasn't planning to do any more proofing.  I just scanned and saw that part. -- Steve --  (talk) 04:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front/ Back of the hand 

message: Stopped by for some info after wife's hand procedure.  It is confusing to the non medical student reader (me) when different sections switch between the finger names and finger numbers.  I had to follow the link to 'digit ratio' to find out that the thumb is finger #1.  I added the names to this section as I see other comments with this same confusion, so it appears to be an issue needing clarification.
 -- Steve --  (talk) 16:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the hand surgeons I've worked with also prefer to use names instead of numbers because it is more clear to them as well. The proper names are thumb, index finger, long finger, ring finger, and small finger. I would support changing any remaining digit-number references.--Taylornate (talk) 03:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. I wasn't planning to do any more proofing.  I just scanned and saw that part. -- Steve --  (talk) 04:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual dimorphism 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Arecaceae which may impact this page, as it involves the usage of "palm". Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  70.51.200.101 (talk) 05:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fuck knows. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 21:59, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress about "Palm" 

message: Moles have fingers and opposable thumbs. And use them for grasping. Yet there is a hesitance among many to call their paws "hands" because they are not primates. Why is that?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.131.132 (talk) 21:02, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fuck knows. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 21:59, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moles 

message: The image file information's description is (incorrectly?) "... right hand ...". How do make of this discrepancy?
Tony Ho (talk) 00:58, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image: Bones of the left hand. Dorsal surface 

message: The hand is not an organ. The Wikipedia page on the foot calls it an anitomical structure which is a better description of a hand as well.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.127.113.78 (talk) 01:16, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Organ?

message: "Several of primitive hand features"
Please change this to "Several primitive hand features" or "Several of the primitive hand features." 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:3CB2:F80C:E9CC:EE5F (talk) 02:34, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: (the first way). –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2020

message: John R. Napier, Hands (1980). 84.94.37.73 (talk) 09:37, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further reading 

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