Talk:Protestant missions in China

message: lovely article , but I've put up a "tone" template there, as the narrative tone of the ariticle can be adjusted. Now it reads more like a personal account of something. For example (my bold), "In 1807, Robert Morrison of the London Missionary Society reached Canton via America despite the opposition of the British East India Company and the ship's captain (or owner) with his famous sally: "And so, Mr. Morrison, you really expect to make an impression on the idolatry of the great Chinese empire?." Morrison's reply is worth noting: "No, sir, I expect God will." After twenty-five years of intense work he translated the whole Bible and baptized ten Chinese. We associate with him such giants as William Henry Medhurst and Milne (the printers), Samuel Dyer (Hudson Taylor's father-in-law), Gutzlaff (the Prussian linguist), and Parker (China's first medical missionary)."--K.C. Tang 04:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made numerous editing changes to try to create more neutral tone; the article has too highly colored and "editorial" language, discouraged by Wikipedia style policies.  See WIKI MOS.  It also needs more specific sourcing for its quotations and assertions, not just references to a large book.Parkwells (talk) 23:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Use more neutral language

message: I just dropped by to check out the article, and I'm (at this point) giving it a Start/Mid rating (same as the China WikiProject did). Nswinton 14:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christianity WikiProject Assessment

message: Why is this limited to 19th century missions? The template implies it is part of a series on Protestant missions generally. Wouldn't 1841 and 1949/1951 be wiser cut-off dates? Obviously 1900 is significant because of the Boxers, but this did not prompt any change in Protestant mission activity in the way that the 'opening' and 'closing' of China did. 79.73.45.86 01:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. Each time period in the development of missions in China has it's own article as you might have noticed (Nestorianism in China, Medieval Roman Catholic Missions in China, Jesuit China missions). We could change the title of the article to "Protestant Missions in China" if more is added to speak about the events of the 20th Century, such as the exodus of missionaries during the warfare as well as the final departures of the early 1950's. There are several notable articles already such as The Murder of John and Betty Stam and Eric Liddell from this time period, among others. Also James O. Fraser, Alfred James Broomhall, Gladys Aylward do not fit into the 19th Century scope. I would go ahead and add a new section at the end of this article, and then we can change the title if no one objects.Brian0324 14:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More to the point, we can move to Protestant missions in China () per  until there's any other article on Protestant missions at another time to dab. I'd be against that as an unhelpful fork: just deal with it here until there's enough material to warrant period divisions. — LlywelynII 11:39, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Time limitations

message: I agree with Brian's point, but the grammar makes it unclear. Would it be ok to say "unlike the earlier Roman Catholic translations, which were not published or publicly distributed"? ch (talk) 00:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bible Translations

message: Should there not be more about Eric Liddell in this article, as in, at least a mention? Invmog (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric Liddell

message: Have made considerable editing changes to introduce more neutral, factual language.  See comments above. Article needs more specific sources to justify its assertions in many places. It seems much too intent on making a point.Parkwells (talk) 23:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs NPOV language

message: There appears to be an over-reliance on dated sources and some primary sources, which might explain the bias in language. Editors are supposed to use valid (preferably academic), third-party and secondary sources, not be doing original research and interpretation of quotes from primary sources. Surely more has been written on the missionaries in China. Suggest editors should make more use of the later 20th-century historians of China.Parkwells (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources are dated

message: The citations are irregular in form and most need to be redone as inline citations to conform to Wiki policies.Parkwells (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations need work

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message: I deleted the POV tag on this article as there is no explanation of what may be non-neutral in the article.  Admittedly, this article needs a lot of work -- whole sections give far too much credit to the activities of a few missionaries who don't really stand out that much from the crowd.  There are also a few peacock words scattered around the article, but without more justification, I don't think the article deserves a POV tag. Maybe I will undertake to clean it up as nobody else seems interested in doing so.Smallchief (talk) 01:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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