Talk:Mount Tamalpais

message: article needs more breadth especially in ecology. Anlace 18:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Initial assessment

message: Can somebody add the proper pronunciation? Jordan Brown 07:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I always heard it as TAMIL-pice; Uriel had it as tamil-PIOUS. Which is correct? kwami 08:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Me too. TAM-il-PI-ous is what I've always heard.  TAM as is "tampering".  il as in "felling ill". PI as in "apple pie". ous as in "pious". Stwiso (talk) 22:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: This section would seem appropriate to Mt. Tamalpais State Park, and not "unencyclopedic".  Mt. Tam is the birthplace of mountain biking and provides ideal beginner to advanced mountain biking terrain on its extensive trails system.  It is a premier and renowned mountain biking recreation destination.  uriel8  (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The way it reads now is most certainly unencyclopedic and most of it should be deleted. Wikipedia is not a random collection of information, is not a travel or hiking guide, and is not a "how to" manual. The kind of information that's in these sections mostly belongs in Wikibooks, not in Wikipedia. The fact that Mount Tamalpais played an important role in the development of mountain biking is encyclopedic and deserves mention. A guide to scenic places to go mountain biking is unencyclopedic "how to" information. And a section titled "List of Rides with Maps and Detailed Trail Descriptions - Hikers Welcome!" is the very definition of "unencyclopedic". Peter G Werner 01:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mountain Biking section (criticism)

message: I've tagged the statement "Its name, first recorded in 1845, is said to be derived from a Miwok word meaning "Sleeping Maiden", because it resembles the silhouette of a reclining woman" as "dubious". I'll have to track down sources for this, but if I'm not mistaken, the origin of the name "Tamalpais" is not well-established and almost certainly has no relation to any Miwok term for "sleeping lady". In fact, if I'm not mistaken the so-called Legend of the Sleeping Lady has no basis at all in Coast Miwok mythology and instead is based on a late 19th-century pseudo-Indian romance written about Mt. Tamalpais. I'll try to track down some facts on the subject and revise this material for accuracy. Peter G Werner 02:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, its definitely apocryphal. I found an article called "Mt. Tamalpais: The Legendary Birth of a Holy Mountain" and a book called "Dreams of Tamalpais" which discuss this piece of folklore in considerable detail. (Interestingly, there's a mountain in Alaska and another in Mexico with almost exactly the same mythology.) I've started a breakout article on The Sleeping Lady – just a stub now, but I hope to expand it as I find time. Peter G Werner 07:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Sleeping Lady": Miwok Legend or Urban Legend? 

message: I had originally tagged the "Natural history" section with an "expand" tag because there are entire sections missing, as well as established sections that need expansion. I recently added one of the more glaring omissions, on plant communities. It absolutely still needs a section on wildlife (eg, animals). It also could use something on hydrology – streams, lakes, etc, though I suppose that could also go under "Geography". "Geology and soils" could use significant expansion as well. Some material on conservation and management issues would be useful as well, but that could go in a separate section outside of "natural history", perhaps. Peter G Werner 02:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural history expansion needs 

message: I suggest a photo that shows more the the dramatic height of the mountain compared to the surrounding terrain.  The current photo  conceals this aspect of the mountain.Stwiso (talk) 21:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the above sggestion. Viewed from the East Bay Area,"Mt.Tam" is a very dramatic sight. In the picture currently included one can hardly even see a mountain.(I moved away decades ago or I would take a pic and send it in).76.95.209.135 (talk) 23:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree.  I'll try to put some photo requests in the project templates above.--Hjal (talk) 00:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Hey   and , I just switched out the photo, and I think the image I added is just what you asked for. A view of Mt. Tam from Coyote ridge, to the south. I've been photographing Mt. Tam for a while now, and this is my favorite, since the late afternoon sun shows the contours well. Hope you like it. Jmatazzoni (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, . Much better photo. --Hjal (talk) 09:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Info Box photo

message: As you may or may not know, it is a non-profit organization and it is a landmark on Mt. Tam that hundreds of hikers, cyclists and runners visit every year.  Why should it be invisible on Wikipedia? Stwiso (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion it was too tour guide like. See my notes on your talk page. I'm not the great authority on all things Wiki. Consider adding an article to Wikitravel or Wikia Travel. Neither have an article on Mount Tamalpais. If you wish you can restore your edit and I will not revert it twice. Consider reading WP:NOTRAVEL first though. I do not consider my edit censorship just copy editing. –droll [chat] 20:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why do you have the purported authority to grant or withhold permission?  Have you ever been to Mt. Tamalpais? I live on it and people ask all the time about the West Point Inn.  Why did you not censor the Mt Play totally commercial insert?  Thank God you "permitted" that because it is a beloved (albeit commercial) aspect of the mountain. Do you report to someone at Wikipedia, and, if so, how do I escalate this to that level? Stwiso (talk) 05:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are always free to edit Wikipedia and, as I noted above, you can revert my edit. The first step in resolving a conflict is try and work it out between the two of us. The next step would be to ask for a third opinion, perhaps from an experience editor or an administrator. Another option is to ask a question at the help desk. You should be aware that conflicts are usually resolved through consensus.I should probably ask if you have a vested interest in the West Point Inn. –droll [chat] 23:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Although it is none of your business, and although your question is impliedly insulting, I have no connection to the Inn, other than to provide to people, mostly tourists who have seen it and whom I meet on the mountain, the information that they ask for and would find in any encyclopedia, but which you censored so that they will not see it on Wikipedia.  I asked you if you had ever been there, but you ducked the question; you "should probably" answer that question. You also said "I'm not the great authority on all things Wiki" but I found a page indicating that you have least 56,000 Wikipedia edits. Please explain why you performed so many edits without being an expert. You have tried to steer me to the commercial site WikiTravel and to no other site.  I "should probably ask" do you have any connection with that commercial site and how many edits you have made to it? Wikipedia is a wonderful interactive collaborative invention.  It makes the saying "people helping people" come alive; until editors come to believe that they alone have sole ownership of an article, particularly one on a topic about which they have no personal knowledge and have done no research. Stwiso (talk) 05:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer to your unanswered question is yes. –droll [chat] 06:47, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

text: West Point Inn is one of several places that hikers on Mt. Tam regularly visit. Others include the Tourist Club (a hiking club), the Mountain Home Inn (a restaurant that, until circa 1975, catered almost exclusively to hikers) the Mountain Theatre, Muir Woods. All these places are worth a mention, along with some of the more popular hiking trails, e.g., Matt Davis trail. The first few seconds of this video show West Point Inn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3S7vNkR_gc Zyxwv99 (talk) 13:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Why did you censor the West Point Inn?

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: * Under the section Popular culture please add the following at the bottom of the list:
** Alexander J. Stark published postcards under the name Zan of Tamalpais, featuring scenic views of Mill Valley, Muir Woods, Mount Tamalpais, Marin Hills, and more. 
 Greg Henderson (talk) 16:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless an article is created for Starck, I am hesitant to call this information notable. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 20:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created an article for Stark here: Draft:Alexander J. Stark. Greg Henderson (talk) 20:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

text: , Not an improvement. Opening a new edit request to shop for someone who might bite after being declined twice is not an appropriate editing. Like what you did here back then, this kind of content addition is inappropriate for the same reason. Knock it off. Graywalls (talk) 21:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request - Popular culture