Talk:Hadassah medical convoy massacre

message: I distinctly recall being taught when I was young (back in the mid-1960s) that Jewish forces had resorted to smuggling arms inside of ambulances (if I recall correctly, during the siege of Jerusalem). This information was imparted rather proudly, as evidence of their resourcefulness in the face of adversity. I haven't made an exhaustive search to document and confirm this, but I've been struck by it's omission from material that I've seen. Does anybody have solid information (either verifying or refuting) on this issue? And if it was taking place, did the Arab forces know about it, and if so, was it possibly a factor in this particular event? Thanks in advance for any useful replies on these questions. Cgingold 19:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a vivid memory from around ten years ago of an elderly woman boasting how she carried guns around Jerusalem under her skirt in case the Irgun men she was with were searched by the British Army. As to the question of how military was the convoy - how about the question how military was the hospital? One contempory reference that might be of interest is Thomas C. Wasson: Quotes from Wasson's reports to the United States State Department around the time of his death include:
On April 15 1948, in a report concerning the Hadassah Hospital Convoy Massacre, Wasson wrote, "American correspondent eye witnessed removal from trucks large quantities arms and ammunition and speculated whether for escort or other purpose."
On April 17 1948, he wrote " . . . queried as to whether convoy included armoured cars, Haganah guards, arms and ammunition in addition to doctors, nurses and patients, Kohn [of the Jewish Agency] replied in affirmative saying it was necessary to protect convoy."Telegrams 439 & 455, Jerusalem Consular Files, Series 800 Palestine, Record Group 84, National Archives
I'm sure there's more. I'll have a look around.Padres Hana (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question re smuggling of arms  

message: seems very pro israel and particularly anti british, have balanced it a little but needs more work.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.104.87 (talk) 01:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not anti-British at all. It extolls the heroism of Jack Churchill, who was very British, as far as I can see.--Gilabrand (talk) 07:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It does however refer to British forces declining to intervene, yet they had done so and were attacked by the Jews. The survivors were eventually rescued by British troops, the convoy having been entirely abandoned by Haganah. The article is not particularly biased, though clearly written from a Jewish perspective. The main problem is the title. This was an ambush of a military convoy (which did include doctors and nurses), not a massacre.122.59.167.152 (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Victims of Hadassah massacre to be memorialized, April 7, 2008, taken from this attempt to start a new article on this topic.  The new article, Hadassah Massacre was a stub and now redirect here.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential useful reference 

message: to Ashely: yes, the victims were jews. Amoruso (talk) 00:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: recent

message: I don't think this can be considered as a wp:rs source to state that the massacre was not performed in retaliation of Deir Yassin in comparison with Lapierre and Collins who state the contrary... Ceedjee (talk) 19:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  wp:rs 

message: Not an Arab neighbourhood but a mixed one, Sheikh Jarrah contained the Sephardi and Teimani neighbourhoods of Nahalat Shimon and Shimon HaTzadiq, depopulated the month before by the Arab unit al Shabab, this should be mentioned as these events were an important contributing factor leading to the event in question Spanglish (talk) 19:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Sheikh Jarrah  

message: According to what is brought here above, I propose this new lead : 
:The Hadassah convoy massacre took place on April 13, 1948, when a convoy escorted, by Haganah militia bringing medical and military supplies to  the Hadassah enclave on Mount Scopus, was ambushed by Arab forces
Pluto2012 (talk) 12:53, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no problem with that. I think one should add what de Reynier highlights at the end of the lead, namely that, as a result of the Hadassah incident, a strict separation of military activities from humanitarian aid was established, to avoid the kind of confusion which led to this tragedy.Nishidani (talk) 13:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New lead 

message: Another issue about this article: a great number (probably a majority) of sources call this massacre a response or revenge for the Deir Yassin massacre of a few days before.  This used to be in the article but it was edited out.  It should be mentioned. Zerotalk 21:06, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The simplest solution would be to find the passage wrongfully removed, and, if well sourced, restore it.Nishidani (talk) 21:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you both. Pluto2012 (talk) 12:51, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revenge attack? 

message: *Henry Laurens:76 dead (Laurens 3:76)
*Meron Benvenisti 78 killed, 24 wounded. (Remains of 24 victims never located) (Sacred Landscape: Buried History of the Holy Land Since 1948, p.116)
*Meyer Wolfe Weisgal 77 killed. (So Far: The Autobiography, Transaction Publishers, 1972 p.259*
p.259Nishidani (talk) 20:47, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on casualties 

message: This was a battle, not a massacre. The Jews admitted that the convoy was armed, and it is clear that there was a battle lasting several hours. It should be described as an ambush or battle, not a massacre.122.59.167.152 (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV title 

message: "in which Zionist militant groups of Irgun and Lehi massacred at least 107 Arab Palestinian villages, including women and children" should have villageRs. (People, not settlements) 2A02:908:2619:D3A0:8883:35D3:AE31:5C78 (talk) 04:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:10, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

text: reliable sources are not needed to fix typos. Zerotalk 09:44, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 November 2023