Talk:Hitting the wall

message: In the 1960's I had a cycling book entitled (as far as I can recall) "Scientific Training for Cycling" by a Dr. C. R. Woodward. In it, the author made considerable pains to distinguish between these two terms, with the term "hunger knock" being used for what is called "bonk" here (and in common usage today). He used "bonk" to refer to what seemed to be more a psychological condition rather than a physiological state.
Now, the book was Brtitish (there being a dearth of US cycling publications at the time). Was the distinction between the terms as discribed above common British usage at that time and subsiquently "bonk" taken on the physiological meaning or was this usage peculiar to this author? Perhaps some British users here can enlighten us.Wschart 14:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bonk vs. hunger knock 

message: Bonk training depletes glycogen reserves to speed fat burning. So does the induction phase of the Atkins diet. So is bonk training ketogenic too? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 02:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bonk training vs. Atkins diet? 

message: this article needs more sections and less introduction Thinboy00 talk/contribs 03:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  added {{tl|sections}} header 

message: Hmmm. I'm just a recreational cyclist, but in sports medicine in general "hitting the wall" is by far the preferred term for "bonking". sfahey  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfahey (talk • contribs) 16:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Bonking" is by far the preferred term among cyclists, in my experience.  Cheers, Doctormatt (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I've never heard of this term before today (i.e. just on Wikipedia).  In contrast I have heard "hitting the wall" more often than I can remember.  Perhaps this is a regional thing? Quietbritishjim (talk) 20:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

text: One last thing; I like Dutch name best: hongerklop :-) Quietbritishjim (talk) 22:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  article title 

message: The "Effects" section needs more citations.  I'm not sure the the source of the quote, and it's not clear who 'Davis' is (presumably J. Mark Davis from the previous section).  The source of the quote should be cited, as should the specific works of Dr Davis in which the claims from this section are made.  The tone of the section isn't that great either (e.g. I would change "What’s interesting, Davis says, is that the increase in free tryptophan in the blood is very much related to the increase in free fatty acids in the blood" to "The increase in free tryptophan in the blood is related [ in what way? ] to the increase in free fatty acids within the blood [citation]").  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.171.209 (talk) 18:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations and Quotes 

message: it happens when skeletal muscle runs out of its immediate energy source (glycogen), just saying, I think there should be an article on this but I don't really know all the technical details so I'm sorry I can't write it anon86.158.35.242 (talk) 11:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  hitting the wall is a scientific thing 

message: at any given power output O2 intake, heart rate, and ventilation (VE) were significantly higher, CO2 output (VCO2) was similar
This cannot be correct. Either the measurements were incorrect or it is a typo. The body doesn't store oxygen so CO2 output is proportional to oxygen consumption. O2 intake cannot be significantly higher while CO2 production remains constant.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:827F:A0B6:4D0:6F7B:A0BC:B69A (talk) 05:01, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  O2 

message: The article refers to ATP but with no link to what that is 5.150.250.97 (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Adenosine triphosphate. Now linked in the main page. Silicosaur'us 14:04, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is ATP?