Talk:Ireland national rugby union team

message: Any chance someone can upload the new logo, as the old one is still displayed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.164.196 (talk) 02:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New IRFU Logo

message: ===First match played===
Shouldnt this be (as in football entries) have the flag that was used at the time? Which was for Ireland the St Patrick's flag? Then the other records would be the current IRFU flag?
===Symbol===
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union as what symbol should be used to represent Irish rugby union. If you have an opinion then follow the link and scroll to the bottom of the page.GordyB 22:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The upshot of the vote was that a Shamrock should be used. I have used the image from the article of the same name. 20px. To use the image copy / paste the following code. The '20' defines the size of the image, to rescale it use a higher / lower number.GordyB 14:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: We are currently discussing this, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union at the bottom.GordyB 14:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: There's been a long-satinding agreement to use the shamrock to represent Ireland at rugby union. Using national flags creates many anomalies.GordyB 14:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that and completely agree that it makes the most sense :) However, IF it is his nationality that is being indicated here, it's not strictly a rugby-related matter - his nationality is Irish. TBH, don't really see that it's relevant, so would suggest deleting it altogether.  Sorcha niri 16:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sporting nationality is different from actual nationality, otherwise Northern Irish, English, Scots and Welsh players would all have union jacks. Putting a tricolour next to him would mean that other players would get either tricolours or ulster banners next to them. This creates many anomalies such as what to do with players who were not born in either territory and play for Ireland on the basis of ancestry or residence. It also implies that the existance of two different Irish teams. Putting nationality markers next to coaches can be very significant when the coach is not from the country that he coaches.GordyB 22:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Seconded. The shamrock logo has also been used; I honestly prefer the four provinces flag, but for the love of God, get some sort of flag put back on the articles because this is now a complete burecratic farce. Syferus (talk) 11:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please get a flag back soon!!! I would suggest the 4 provinces flag since it's not offending to anyone. --Jorgenpfhartogs (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Flags and shamrocks

message: There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union as what symbol should be used to represent Irish rugby union. If you have an opinion then follow the link and scroll to the bottom of the page.GordyB 22:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The upshot of the vote was that a Shamrock should be used. I have used the image from the article of the same name. 20px. To use the image copy / paste the following code. The '20' defines the size of the image, to rescale it use a higher / lower number.GordyB 14:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: We are currently discussing this, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union at the bottom.GordyB 14:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: There's been a long-satinding agreement to use the shamrock to represent Ireland at rugby union. Using national flags creates many anomalies.GordyB 14:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that and completely agree that it makes the most sense :) However, IF it is his nationality that is being indicated here, it's not strictly a rugby-related matter - his nationality is Irish. TBH, don't really see that it's relevant, so would suggest deleting it altogether.  Sorcha niri 16:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sporting nationality is different from actual nationality, otherwise Northern Irish, English, Scots and Welsh players would all have union jacks. Putting a tricolour next to him would mean that other players would get either tricolours or ulster banners next to them. This creates many anomalies such as what to do with players who were not born in either territory and play for Ireland on the basis of ancestry or residence. It also implies that the existance of two different Irish teams. Putting nationality markers next to coaches can be very significant when the coach is not from the country that he coaches.GordyB 22:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Seconded. The shamrock logo has also been used; I honestly prefer the four provinces flag, but for the love of God, get some sort of flag put back on the articles because this is now a complete burecratic farce. Syferus (talk) 11:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please get a flag back soon!!! I would suggest the 4 provinces flag since it's not offending to anyone. --Jorgenpfhartogs (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Symbol

message: I added the change colours see http://www.irishrugby.ie/460_6968.php for reference.  The green that we use seems to be very bright - any comments? Sissco 14:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colours 

message: According to a Press Association report today, no anthem was used for Ireland rugby matches prior to the introduction of Ireland's Call in 1995. This is in contrast with the claim in the article that:
"When Irish internationals were played alternately in Belfast and Dublin, the British national anthem "God Save the Queen" was played for matches in Belfast and the national anthem of the Republic of Ireland "Amhrán na bhFiann" was played for matches in Dublin - uniquely in the international rugby community no anthem was played at away games."
--beano 00:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anthems 

message: Please contribute to the discussion about this at the WikiProject Rugby union talk page here. - Shudda talk 22:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent fixture, and Upcoming fixtures lists

message: I added the Players section and also added the bit about the hall of fame - is there a standard way of doing this?  I copied the NZ one. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.59.152 (talk) 
:Yeah the All Blacks article is a good template (or standard) to use because we know it's FA. I would consider removing the other notable players though, and just having the Hall of Fame members. If you manage to find some information on all of those players though, de-list the section, and have a few paragraphs on them instead (like the ABs article). - Shudda talk 22:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players 

message: Haven't they played as just ROI and NI as stand alone rugby union nations. Londo06 21:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge - no and neither is listed here. NI may have entered a sevens team in the Commonwealth games at some point though. I am 100% sure that they did not at the last games.GordyB 21:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  no, never. In fact in most sports Ireland acts as one as before the island was divided. After all they're playing as Ireland not as the Republic of Ireland and the name of the island is still Ireland, no matter how many states one think are on this island.
Jorgenpfhartogs (talk) 16:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Divided Ireland

message: Why don't they just solve the problem at a higher level and arrange a Northern Ireland Rugby team, it would solve a lot of arguments and confusion. I always thought it was a Ireland team with some Northern Ireland players in the team, being English born I never noticed I just thought they were all Guiness drinking Irish Rugby followers and they all sound Irish anyway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryangiggs69 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Ireland

message: A discussion has been started about the breadth and formatting of succession boxes for national rugby union teams at WikiProject Rugby union. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union#Succession boxes. - Shudde talk 22:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Succession box discussion 

message: The world cup section is fairly horrendously POV. Stifle (talk) 11:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Cup section 

message: Does anybody know why the  shorthand is no longer showing the neutral shamrock logo but the flag of the Republic of Ireland, which is inaccurate as the Irish rugby team represents both the Republic and Northern Ireland?  The 2011 World Cup article looks plain silly with Ireland having no logo as a counterpart to the other nations' flags. Mjefm (talk) 10:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I'd fix it if I knew where   could be edited Purplebackpack89 (talk) 06:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shamrock icon disappeared? 

message: The Six Nations table in this article shows the flag of the Irish Republic - which is inappropriate as the team represents Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland.  Can someone remove it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donald gadwall (talk • contribs) 23:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of the Irish Republic 

message: Any reason why Philip Matthews isn't listed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajkgordon (talk • contribs) 13:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lions players 

message: I notice the St. Patrick's Saltire is the flag used to represent Ireland for the 1875 game.  AFAIK, this was never used by the team or in any official capacity by the Ireland - can anyone shed some light why it is being used here?  --HighKing (talk) 16:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's unlikely that any flag was used to represent any rugby teams at that time. If anything, the Union Flag would probably have been flown. Mooretwin (talk) 16:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The union flag was used prior to partition. This flag is entirely incorrect Gnevin (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

text: #if an organisation uses a flag or banner to represent the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland, use that flag or banner to represent teams, bodies or people under its aegis. If that image is copyrighted, it may be possible to use an older public domain alternative once the older flag or banner is not significantly different to the current one (such with as the IRFU banner). 
#WP:RU say this rugby flag should  be used for all instances
#"As Diffley recognises 'entrenched attitudes caused some problems for a while after the founding of the Irish Free State in 1922'. He records that there was, apparantly, a reluctance at first in some quarters to fly the 'Irish tricolour (which, of course, had replaced the Union Jack as the national emblem) at Lansdowne Road for international matches'. The problem had to be confronted by the IRFU which was now 'in the position of governing the game for oneisland which contained two separate political entities'. According to Van Esbeck, 'the question was resolved in 1925 by the union designing a special flag of its own'. ...
"The issue was was raised again in January 1932, by the Connaught branch of the IRFU. Again the Union insisted that its own flag would be flown at all international matches, regardless of whether these were played at Lansdowne Road, Dublin, or Belfast's venue for international rugby, Ravelhill.   — John Sugden, Alan Bairn, 1993, Sport, sectarianism and society in a divided Ireland, Leicester University Press: London Gnevin (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Why because you choose ignore the CON at WP:RU, the reference above and WP:RUIRLFLAG. Your wrong end of Gnevin (talk) 23:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Partick's Saltire representing Ireland in 1875 

message: Hi, I don't know what articles there are about Irish Rugby. When I searched "Irish Rugby" in the search box I got "Irish national rugby union team". I expected to find the article about Irish rugby in general. I don't know much about it. ~ R.T.G 13:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish Rugby 

message: As a proud owner of the new Curacao / Turquoise change kit for the Irish National Team, I just have to add that we need to update the Away colors to reflect the new 2010/2011 jersey. Unfortunately I don't know how to alter the template for the jersey color display. Anyone that can help?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SalmonLeap2 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Away Strip colours 

message: I'm a bit confused by the section where it mentions the record defeat to South Africa. If Ireland conceded ten tries, then they can't have lost 38-0 because ten tries is already 50 points to SA. Was the scoring system different or is this a typo?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.96.22 (talk) 19:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the history section... 

message: There needs to be some kind of explanation of why the team represents both parts of Ireland, and the surrounding politics. I realise the chance of this starting an edit war are quite high, but someone should at least have a go at it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.66.240.105 (talk) 21:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is covered in Irish Rugby Football Union , its not really that complicated as it gets made out . Most sports organisations are older than division of Ireland , football is more the exception than the rule . After partition divisions emerged in some sports and in most cases are now joined again .Murry1975 (talk) 19:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I'm having trouble finding a reliable source (or even not so reliable source) listing all of Ireland's coaches and their Test records. Does anyone out there have anything? Print or online – I'd be happy either way. I could probably source material for the last ten years, but prior to that I'd struggle. -- Shudde talk 09:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for coaches 

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message: I have requested a move back to the title that was stable before 14 May, viz. Ireland national rugby union team. Please open a Requested move if you want the page anywhere else. Move wars are unacceptable.  Scolaire (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree we should restore the page name to its long-standing version. CUA 27 (talk) 17:29, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ireland national rugby union team is fine with me . I thought that's what it should be. The current title is just plain wrong and out of keeping with WP:RU and the other national teams.  The C of E   God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. You just didn't notice that Steven a91 had moved it to "Ireland rugby union team". Sorry I accused you of edit-warring.  Scolaire (talk) 08:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move war