Talk:Comparison of video player software/Archive 1

message: iTunes is capable of video playback, but AFAIK it only plays trailers or music videos that are available through the iTunes Music Store.
I'll leave it to someone else to decide whether that is enough to qualify for a "YES" in the "Video Playback" box.  AlistairMcMillan 14:20, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: But if you had instead made them regular MPEG 4 files (.mp4) instead of baking on that Xvid wrapper, iTunes would have been able to play it fine. Same goes with Divx or AVI. iTunes can play the files, as long as they aren't wrapped. --Ctachme 18:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

text: IMO many iTunes and QuickTime entries can be merged as iTunes can play what QuickTime can play. See iTunes' article. --minghong 13:35, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: iTunes does have one restriction that QuickTime doesn't: it doesn't accept certain containers that QuickTime does. The big one is AVI, but a hack allows it to work.  Since the hack involves creating a QuickTime movie wrapper for the other container and having iTunes play that (though the data is still in the other file), I'm going to remove AVI from iTunes' list of supported containers. Also, it seems iTunes will only parse ASF files with the WMA extension, and Flip4Mac should now provide decoding. Can anyone confirm? --Dicey 03:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes Video Playback? 

message: I think we should consider a line item, on what suites are nagware or other forms of built in annoyances like spyware. For example both QT, and RP have some sort of nags to get you to pay for the full version, while GPL, and WMP don't have anything of the sort. PPGMD
:That's a standard feature in shareware, not worth noting. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: how about call it 'user friendly-ness' and then take into account how quicktime and realplayer and wmp are pains to install and uninstall. of course judging how friendly a player is will cause a lot of fighting, so nevermind Compn 16:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nag ware 

message: though it involves replacing one of its resource files (in the .app folder) link
:thats a hack, not really a feature of the media player. --Eean 23:28, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes is skinnable 

message: I notice that there is no Mac OS 9 column listed, and there are Mac OS 9 media players.
I already added a Win16 column anyway, so why not have a Mac OS 9 column? --KelisFan2K5 17:52, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither a Mac OS 9 or Win16 column seem really useful to me. Or we'll end with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, Hurd, etc. and the tables will be unreadable. Sam Hocevar 20:12, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Mac OS prior to Mac OS X is a completely different operating system. Win16 is a trivial difference. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac OS 9 column? 

message: This Comparison is mixing frontends and backends. Although some applications have their own backend, it is more and more common at least on the unix desktop, that applications (e.g. amarok, juk, totem) support multiple backends (e.g. GStreamer, Xine, MPlayer, ARts) and thus the features depend as much on the backend choosen as on the application itself.--Hhielscher 18:31, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. That's why I didn't fill in the media format support for those players... So I don't know how to deal with them. --minghong 08:09, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixing frontends and backends? 

message: Since it is a DVD-only player, I suggest to drop the entire product for this comparison. I also suggest not to add WinDVD and PowerDVD as they play primary VCD/DCD. --minghong 09:01, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. The whole thing is getting far too messy. Sam Hocevar 09:39, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Drop Ogle?

message: What's the difference between these four things? I don't think the tables make it clear what's what why. --Ctachme 19:26, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: File format? Where did you see that? It's such a general term. Video format is just video codec. Container can contain any audio/video channel. --minghong 09:23, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video format versus file format verus containter versus codec 

message: What is it anyway? No page here on wikipedia... I only found something about Nero Digital which are some codec. What are other's opinions on this? --Harteex 01:16, 31 May 2005 (GMT+1)
:I agree that it should be dropped --Ctachme 03:57, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drop Nero Media Player? 

message: Should we consider showing what/how each program supports hardware audio players? For example, does it support MTP, Sureplay, DRM, USB Drives, etc...
--Anubis1975 09:53, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardware Player Support 

message: For what OS does mplayer support RealMedia?
:It does not depend on OS but on CPU architecture since binary codecs are used to decode RealVideo 3 and 4 as well as some of the Real audio codecs.  Those binary codecs are supported on Intel and PowerPC.
::mplayer can play realmedia on windows, linux and mac (and a few more os's as long as they are x86 intel or powerpc based) Compn 18:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MPlayer 

message: I believe that jetAudio depends on the availability of a DirectShow filter for MPEG-4 video playback, and one is included as part of the jetAudio installation.
Wikipedia XP 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  jetAudio and MPEG-4 video format 

message: Someone add DivX to the list with it's appropriate stats.
71.250.51.234 03:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Media Player 

message: The warnings are exaggerated. This page is vandalized relatively little and does not justify all of the warnings. In fact, I'd say the warnings are partially giving into vandals on more than one level. Also, after I made the template replacements it went from 74KB to 55 KB and now it's already up to 63KB. Those reasons aside, I don't believe the actual request from the warnings is entirely reasonable for such an article. Much of this information can't be found from a verifiable "source" other than oneself testing the players' capabilities. How would one go about providing such a "source" to the Wikipedia editors?
Everything in Wikipedia does not have to be sourced/referenced, but it does have to be verifiable. Consider the type of article this is and the fact that software is not always well documented and decide whether the verifiability rules for Wikipedia should apply. You would find a lot more s if everything had to be verified in such a way as described in their policy. If you don't believe someone then the answer is not to blantantly and ignorantly revert an edit, but to verify it for yourself. Anyone too lazy to do such a thing, in my opinion, shouldn't concern themselves with it. All but one of the players has a free version, so there is little excuse. --Kamasutra 18:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair points. I just thought it might be a good idea. Feel free to revert them though if you think they're not suitable. I've not reverted anything, but I did notice some reversions for unsourced edits so I thought that might have been the policy for this page ;)  -- Run!  19:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism warnings 

message: It would be nice to have a table comparing which players support which music location protocols - DAAP (itunes), and the Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) MediaServer protocol are the only two that i know off, but there may be others.
82.68.161.101 01:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music/media locator protocol support 

message: how about comparisons of media players that support playing from capture devices such as webcams and tv-cards? 60.51.123.251 07:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  video capture? 

message: There should be noted if there are any players that work with mac os 9. helohe (talk) 15:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players for Mac os 9 

message: Hi, I rehauled the article to use the <ref> syntax. You can see how I did it at User:Kjoonlee/comp.
I'd be happy if people could check the current version of the article to spot errors, if any. Thank you.  --Kjoonlee 11:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't spot any errors per say, but the ref for plugin available at time of installation seems to be used for the general "plugin available" in numerous places. I suggest changing this ref to be more generic. Winamp suffers from this isue extensibly since most functionality in these tables can be aquired just from searching winamp.com's plugin repository. Obviously stating that you can do this at install time is somewhat subjective. Otherwise a clean improvement to making edits. CraigF 11:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ref syntax 

message: i'm curious about features on linux in regards to scaling. i know MPC can do Bicubic resizing (as well as like BiLinear and Fast BiCubic/Linear) thru DirectX on newer video cards. also FFDShow can do Lanczos *-tap (1-9 or more) as well. that's something i'm looking for in a linux media player, too... Plonk420 21:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video/Audio Processing features 

message: I think there should be list of supported tracker music.. --84.19.184.156 16:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. Suggestion to do so. 85.25.148.242 22:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about tracker music support? 

message: Any source for QuickTime's & RealPlayer's ability to play DVD-A discs (not regular DVD with AC3/DTS/LPCM audio but those high resolution audio DVDs)? I thought that WinDVD, if I recall right, was only player for PC able to play those (not with the newest version as the DRM was hacked). --84.248.57.66 14:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hi-res DVD-A support? 

message: This article is missing Kaffeine. 165.230.46.146 22:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Kaffiene 

message: On Comparison_of_media_players#Features, there's a column which has two different labels on the top and bottom of the table. "Gapless Audio Decoding" on top and "Gapless MP3/AAC Decoding" on the bottom. I think that's leading to some errors on the column too. I'll try to find when this happened, but even if I fix it, please make an effort to correct the information on that column according to the label which is agreed on for this column. Rbarreira 13:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem in the features section 

message: Do any of these media players have support for multithreading? If so, shouldn't this comparison note that? -Aknorals 13:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multithreading support 

message: Replay Gain should be added to the table for things to support. 165.230.46.153 17:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replay Gain 

message: According to the charts in this article, Winamp can playback HDCDs.  However, according to this Wiki article on HDCD, the only software-based application that can playback HDCDs in their 20-bit format is Windows Media Player.  Can anyone confirm if Winamp can indeed play HDCDs? 
Not One Of Us 21:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winamp plays HDCDs? 

message: According to http://www.un4seen.com/xmplay.html, under the midi plugin, soundfont 2 files can be used. Can we include midi playback capabilities on the comparison page?
219.95.201.49 03:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midi playback in XMPlay using soundfonts 

message: Before I sit down and put all the info from the tables into an SQL database, has anyone already done it? 
--207.59.156.99 15:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SQL Representation 

message: Songbird is listed as a video player, but should be listed as an audio player I think. Am I mistaken?
:It is primary a audio player but it also plays video files. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.167.171.252 (talk) 20:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songbird 

message: It seems to me to be more descriptive for an international Wikipedia readership the Cost column should have $ (dollar) signs preceeded with the currency it is quoting. Ie if US dollars is should read USD$20. At the moment one can only assume that the $ (dollar) signs indicate the most popular dollar currency which is the US dollar. Mrbeardy 05:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cost by Currency

message: User:87.167.128.181 removed the citation about subtitle support in xine with the edit summary "Please don't make unnecessary footnotes, there are already to many". It's not unnecessary, because it lists which subtitle formats are supported by xine. Sources must be cited for material that is challenged, and when I added the citation, I was challenging the claim that there is no support for SubStation Alpha subtitles in xine. — A.M. 11:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for subtitle support in xine 

message: i don't see any mention of the zune software on this article. Geekyperson (talk) 19:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the zune software