Talk:Space Pilot 3000

message: Go for it. JQF 19:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: .3 years is no where even close to 7 hours.
0.3 years * 365 days/year *24 Hours/day= 2628 hours. 
now, there is a a difference of .3 days over the course of 1000 years,
1000*(363.2425-365.2422)=.3 days
which .3 days does eqaul 7 hours roughly
.3 days *24hours/day= 7.2 hours.
Barcode 22:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please remember this is only for discussion of the article in question, not just general discussion. Stardust8212 14:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  .3 years 

message: The infobox on the right says "The Simpsons season xxx" on all Futurama Epsiode articles. I'd change it, but I don't know where it is. Anyone? --Damsleth 09:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong name in infobox 

message: Would it be appropriate to add to the Star Trek reference that Fry thinks his job will include 'fighting monsters and teaching alien women how to love' (not sure if that is the exact quote, would need to check) this is similar to many parody plots of ST:TOS episodes. Stardust8212 02:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Star Trek Reference 

message: I removed the following text from the article:
"The countdown scene at the beginning of the episode is an impossible event because the countries shown are in different time zones; however, each individual country's countdown could just be shown as they happened that night, not necessarily occurring at the exact same moment around the entire world."
I think there are two authors at work here, and the first does not believe in suspension of disbelief. Mitch 01:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Useless Trivia Nonsense removed

message: I note that most of the "reference" statements in this article are NOT properly referenced, and IMHO, could not be. The same goes for the statements in "references" and "trivia" in all of other episodes of Futurama, a series which is heavily ladded with allusion, but poorly documented to be so, in the (shall we say) academic published literature. Mostly these things represent similarities which struck one viewer, which might or might not find correspondance to something some other fan said on the net in a blog, but almost none of which would likely find reference to Groening, or an author of the script who explicitly said somewhere that he did something explicitly in homage to "X" in pop culture. For example, episode "Raging Bender" contains a mini-parody of Mystery Science Theater 3000, a show the writers were surely aware of. However, this has been noted only in blogs in the web, and AFAIK has not made it into the academic literature or the DVD commentary. Does it violate WP:V to note it, unreferenced? Of course, but there it is (in the references of this episode). The pilot series title Space Pilot 3000 is printed on a planet, in the same style and font as the planet logo of Mystery Science Theater 3000 (this has been noted in fan blogs as well). Having no title external reference, would make this episode one of the very few episodes of Futurama that don't have one. May we note that it may be to Mystery Science Theater 3000, a show that had wisecracking girder-bending robots as characters, long before Futurama was a gleam in Groening's eye?  One editor objects, on on the basis of WP:V. I say, considering context and the rest of the content of these articles, this is Wikilawyering, using strict interpretations of WP policies when they happen to agree with your viewpoint, but not otherwise. Oh, stop. SBHarris 16:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Abuse of WP:V

message: I keep watching the bit when they're all in Old New York, I can't see Leela's parents anywhere. Are they realy actualy there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.78.178.241 (talk • contribs).
Whoever added that may have been mixed up with the episode I Second that Emotion, when they were seen in the crowd scene, though never actually pointed out. No one was seen in Old New York anyway, and they live in the sewers, not Old New York. Swanny 03:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leela's parents in Old New York 

message: In the Trivia section, it says "During the bar scene, Bender proclaims "I don't need to drink", when, in the Futurama future all robots require some kind of alcoholic beverage as their fuel."  However, in a later episode, "Hell is Other Robots," Bender opts to give up alcohol and drink mineral oil, so it is possible for them to survive without alcohol. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EKUColonel (talk • contribs) 07:36, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bender's need to drink 

message: The articles says "The Planet Express spaceship has the same "Groening-esque" overbite as all of Groening's characters from The Simpsons, Futurama, and his comic strip "Life in Hell".".
What does it mean? What is an overbite? Simpsonary 23:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Overbite Malocclusion. Undershot jaw and upper-lip too big, with an overhang. Real people don't look like Groening characters... SBHarris 01:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny. I recall that when I first saw futurama, I noticed immediately that the characters share the weird look of the simpsons characters. Yet after watching futurama and simpsons so many times, I couldn't even pinpoint their deformity. Simpsonary 12:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Groening-esque" overbite 

message: Is it just me or does the guy who steals Fry's bike on Dec. 31st 1999 sound an afwul lot like Joe Pesci? - Jigsy 19:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Joe Pesci

message: I am going to try and improve this article to get it up to good article standards. We need some information about the fact it was the pilot episode, some critical responses to it and other non-'in universe' information. And it needs a serious culling of 'cultural influences' and goofs (i've done some of the goofs already.-Localzuk(talk) 14:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Something from the IGN article could be mentioned (link). The episode was ranked #14 and it mentions the appearance of Easter Egss not revealed until later in the series. I'd love to see this get up to GA, let me know if I can help in any way. Stardust8212 15:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so I can find them again, some external reviews   -Localzuk(talk) 15:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Work towards good article 

message: This section appears to consist solely of synthesis and is therefore against the rules regarding original research. That is unless someone got these snippets from a reliable source, such as DVD commentary, review etc? If so, can they be sourced please? If not, I'll move them onto this talk page until they can be sourced.-Localzuk(talk) 20:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forshadowing section 

message: I'm not quite clear on what the pre-influences section is supposed to be as compared to the "other cultural references" section. I've left it alone since Localzuk said he was going to work on the article but I think if its going to remain a separate section then it needs a more descriptive title or some sort of text explaining why these are particularly significant. I'm going to go ahead with my work as described at the wikiproject for now and possibly attack that issue later, once I understand exactly what is going on. Stardust8212 00:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-influences? 

message: As I recently brought up at the wikiproject (here) it is time we did something about the cultural references sections. I am moving all unsourced references to the talk pages for the time being in hopes of creating a better, more thoroughly sourced article. Please discuss this action at the wikiproject link above so as not to split it over 72 different talk pages. The information removed from the article follows. Stardust8212 01:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source? If yes, go for it. If no, then I wouldn't recommend it. Stardust8212 01:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  How do I cite the episode?  Kasreyn 03:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant a secondary source, not a primary source. Stardust8212 13:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are DEFINITELY two Clevelands, one below Andrew Jackson and one below Gerald Ford, and straddling Benjamin Harrison. I can't think of another reason for this apart from the fact that he's the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.171.178 (talk) 23:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course. And the two terms straddle that of Harrison. I think this is an obscure reference to Twain's joke that in Europe he was shown two skull relics of Christopher Columbus: one as a child, one as a man... SBHarris 02:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural references 

message: *On the shelf behind which Fry and Bender attempt to hide in the Head Museum are the heads of Johnny Carson, Gillian Anderson, David Duchovny, Elizabeth Taylor, Dennis Rodman, Futurama creator Matt Groening and Barbra Streisand.
*The full poster title of the episode (Futurama Space Pilot 3000) and the poster red/yellow lettering are suggestive of Mystery Science Theater 3000, of which Groening was known to be a fan. In one sequence, the moon is shown to be decorated with the numbers "3000", also an allusion to the logo of Mystery Science Theater 3000 (see illustration).
*The plot of the episode is loosely based on the satirical novel Immortality, Inc..
*Fry is playing a video game called "Monkey Fracas Jr." at the pizza place, narrating it as he plays.  The game starts out as a space shooter similar to Asteroids and/or Defender, then approaches a Saturn-like planet at the end of the level.  At that point, the planet breaks in half, and an ape resembling Donkey Kong emerges. The ape throws barrels at the spaceship and destroys it.  The game's name itself is a parody of Donkey Kong Jr. Also, the ship Fry is controlling resembles a pixelated version of the Planet Express Ship.
*Fry's narration is a parody of the opening narration that appeared in both Star Trek: The Original Series and Star Trek: The Next Generation. "Space; The Final Frontier..." becomes "Space; It seems to go on and on forever...". Fry's narration is preceded by the Star Trek theme song.
*When Fry walks out of the lab, an ad on a taxi behind him reads "Got protoplasm?", a reference to the series of "Got Milk?" advertising slogans.
*Above streets of New New York, when Fry steps out of the cryonics facility, there is a billboard for Angelyne, who is essentially famous for having billboards of herself along Hollywood Blvd. since the 1980's. In the Futurama billboard, Angelyne still looks the same, but is breathing through a mask hooked up to an oxygen tank.
*The woman feeding what appears to be fish food to the head of Leonard Nimoy is wearing the typical uniform of an employee of Hot Dog on a Stick.
*When Fry knocks over Nixon's head, he says "You just made my list", a reference to his Enemies List.
*When the police pound on the door of Planet Express, a brick drops out of Bender. This is a reference to the colorful colloquialism "shitting bricks." 
*The Planet Express Ship's dogged launch is reminiscent of the Millennium Falcon's from the Star Wars film series.
*About thirty seconds into the episode, a sign for a bar in the town is labeled "Akbar", a reference to Akbar and Jeff from Matt Groening's comic strip Life In Hell.
*The Dianoga creature from Star Wars appears.
* After Leela assigns Fry the career chip, and fry begs "please anything else" Leela points to a poster of an atypical union worker and the slogan "you gotta do what you gotta do", a reference to the World War II American propaganda poster of Rosie the Riveter in which a strong female factory worker can be seen alongside the slogan "We Can Do It!"
May I add one:  in the head museum, in the very short sequence where Fry backs away from Leela and knocks Nixon's head off the shelf, there are two identical heads of Grover Cleveland.  This is a reference to Cleveland's status as the only president to ever serve two non-consecutive terms.  Worth adding?  Kasreyn 07:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source? If yes, go for it. If no, then I wouldn't recommend it. Stardust8212 01:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  How do I cite the episode?  Kasreyn 03:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant a secondary source, not a primary source. Stardust8212 13:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are DEFINITELY two Clevelands, one below Andrew Jackson and one below Gerald Ford, and straddling Benjamin Harrison. I can't think of another reason for this apart from the fact that he's the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.171.178 (talk) 23:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course. And the two terms straddle that of Harrison. I think this is an obscure reference to Twain's joke that in Europe he was shown two skull relics of Christopher Columbus: one as a child, one as a man... SBHarris 02:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural references

message: It was suggested in the peer review that the extraneous lists at the end of the article were holding it back from being a good article. I agree with them so for now I am moving these lists to the talk page. If someone can find a better way to integrate these into the article then please do. Stardust8212 02:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info being removed from main article 

message: I am going to pass this as a WP:GA.  Great work!  I will go ahead and fix the headers at the top of the talk page, and list the article.  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 05:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passing as GA 

message: This episode, along with all other episodes from season one, is being reviewed to determine whether it currently satisfies Wikipedia's various policies in guidelines. All editors are welcome and encouraged to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Futurama/Season 1 review. Stardust8212 18:39, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode review 

message: It's kinda silly, and it's probably nothing, but as Bender and Fry first look out over old New York, a lizard walks up a pipe at the front of the screen. The lizard looks like Jason Fox's pet iguana, Quincy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.171.178 (talk) 23:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FoxTrot reference? 

message: Not sure where to mention this in the article, but I've calculated that December 31st, 2999 really is a Tuesday.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.255.77 (talk) 16:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free on Tuesdays 

message: The one thing I was going to add is that when Bender and Fry are trapped (temporarily) in the room with bars on the window, in order to escape the bars are bent by Bender, then miraculously straighten when the "camera angle" changes, then revert to being bent for their escape.  I don't know of any at the moment, but there may be more continuity errors/discontinuities; it's just the one thing which, I don't know why, I remember fairly well about that episode.  Having read snpp.com, such minor errors occasionally creep into "The Simpsons," so it's no surprise there might be some in "Futurama" as well.
I notice that section is more about continuity throughout the whole "Futurama" series.  What does the Wikipedia community think?  Should there be a mention of the bars slip-up?  Or is that too trivial to include here?
-- Joe (talk) 01:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Continuity I believe is more about how a single story fits in with the series overall. Minor technical errors are pretty trivial concerns, unless they attract attention from reliable, third party sources. WikiuserNI (talk) 20:10, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  belongs in continuity section? or maybe a new "discontinuity" section? 

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