Talk:Alternative wine closure

message: Anons keep adding to these lists of "notable" producers using each type of closure. I think these lists should be removed entirely for two reasons:
#They attract a lot of attention from people who want to promote their winery, diluting their overall significance.
#As time goes on and synthetic closures become more and more common, this information will be less and less interesting or notable. We are encouraged to avoid putting information into articles that is liable to change significantly with time, and I think these lists are examples of this because their notability is only relevant until synthetic closures become the norm (which is rapidly happening).
Any objections to me going ahead and deleting all the lists from the article? — Saxifrage ✎ 00:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Took 2 months but that area is cleaned. Agne 06:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If user JBWM stops vandalizing the ZORK section then it would be really clean! I'm sorry I'm not familiar with wikipedia procedures, but can something be done about this user whose only "contributions" ever have been to blatantly advertise ZORK on this article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.181.161 (talk) 05:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notable" producers are being laundry lists 

message: There have been a wide range of concerns about the advert tone of the Zork section and considering JBWM admitted conflict of interest, it would probably be best to hammer out the details of the section here on the talk page rather than edit the article directly. I think first and foremost we should keep Wikipedia's policy of using reliable, independent, third party sources for the edit and to also be mindful of WP:NPOV and to avoid sounding like an WP:ADVERT. We should all be encouraged to assume good faith and not label others editors as "vandals". AgneCheese/Wine 01:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I fully agree with Agne. Since alternative closures is an interesting topic to all us "wine nuts", it seems the Zork merits a place in the article, but we do not detail each place of production or send people to producer's sites for additional advertisments for other types of wine closures. Therefore, the level of treatment the Zork gets right now, after Agne's revert seems about right, although I wouldn't mind a reliable reference or two, or a free image. Tomas e (talk) 01:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with all the above, but I do not assume good faith when someone marks a section as possible adv. for editing by someone who is a specialist in the area, then the section is being edited and then the user who first contributed that section keeps reverting it back to what it was without any discussion. Anyway, the matter is now closed I assume, and in good faith now, I agree that the article sounds right. Reliable third-party references would be nice as well, but this is where I assume good faith. Thanks, Anthony.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.27.199 (talk) 23:35, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Zork entry

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message: This is in the "Synthetic corks" section: "...and the Vinova type production, which combines the advantages of both injection molding and extrusion molding."
From what I can see, vinova is a registered trademark manufacturer of synthetic corks and frankly, I feel this is nothing but blunt advertising, since this statement is neither educating nor well supported by any evidence at all. I will edit this section to exclude this statement until someone can fully and neutrally argue that the Vinova-method is somehow  distinct from the other two mentioned and in what way.
Einaraxel (talk) 19:14, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising in "Synthetic corks" section 

message: The main page implies that Vinolok is a product distinct from the Vino-Seal, and that Vinolok was developed "by a Czech crystal glass producer Preciosa."
The vinolok and vino-seal webpages are very clearly co-owned in that they appear exactly alike, and the two are frequently mentioned together in the same articles online.  I believe this section should remove the implication that the two are distinct when they don't appear to be.  "Vinolok" is simply the European name for the Alcoa(?) Vino-Seal product.  Examine http://vinolok.cz/en/why-vinolok/  vs  http://vinoseal.us/why-vinolok/ , and See treatment of the two as synonymous in (for example): http://www.winesandvines.com/template.cfm?section=features&content=76530 and  http://vinolok.cz/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/awri-report.pdf
Mcvoorhis (talk) 23:22, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vino-Seal and Vinolok -- same thing? 

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message: The authors really pulled out the heavy research stops when they discovered that plastic wine corks are made from plastic material. Bravo. 162.154.248.143 (talk) 15:15, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plastic material eh?