Talk:Élie Metchnikoff

message: He is also known as "Elie Metchnikoff" (in Encyclopedia Britannica, and Microbe Hunters, for example) Souldn't this be noted? Kaplanoah (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A redirect from Elie Metchnikoff has been established already. Still, anyone only knowing the name Ilya Ilyich Mechnokov may find it helpful to have a note about alternate spellings (for further external research, etc.)  Here's what I mean. If someone comes to do research on Wikipedia, they will have no trouble finding this article regardless of the name they used (Ilya or Elie). However, if they only know the name Ilya, they will not come across Elie and will therefore not have the resources to do research (using Elie) outside Wikipedia. Kaplanoah (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: * This is the current title minus the patronymic.  There's no need for a patronymic, as English speakers rarely use them (Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky being one of the rare exceptions; we refer to his colleagues Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Alexander Glazunov, Mily Balakirev, Alexander Scriabin etc without patronymics. The same should apply to Mechnikov).
* But he spent the last 28 years of his life in Paris, where he was known as Élie Metchnikoff, and that’s how his name mostly appears in the West (not always with the acute on the É, though).  
* Either of these is preferable to the current title (accuracy of romanisation notwithstanding).  
* I would strongly support a move to Élie Metchnikoff.   --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  11:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

text: No objections?  Please see Requested Move below, then.  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  20:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think his name better known as Ilya Mechnikov - see Nobel laureates. Google search: "Ilya Mechnikov" - about 30,500 results "Élie Mechnikov" - about 501 results. --IlyaMart (talk) 20:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Spelling

message: When I read the passage "Mechnikov also developed a theory that aging is caused by toxic bacteria in the gut and that lactic acid could prolong life. Based on his theory, he drank sour milk every day. He died in 1916 at 71 years of age (well above the average life expectancy of the general population at the time and a slightly more than other notable scientists of his time)", I thought 'what an odd detail to spend so many words on'. When, afterwards, the Yakult brand popped up, I understood.
The effects claimed by Yakult and other probiotics on the immune system and longevity are largely unproven, which does not keep it from being huge business, sustained by vague claims in the absence of hard scientific evidence.
The above is one. Let's face it: in the 19th century, the wealthy and educated lived longer, and it is higly unlikely that lactic acid consumption has anything to do with that. Mechnikov's natural life was probably not significantly longer than that of fellow scientists of his time, and well within statistical error margins--"probably", since to my knowledge no-one has ever bothered to draw up age statistics among notable 18th-century scientists.
I'll bet anyone ten to one that this tidbit of information, for which of course no source is quoted, was sneaked into this article by Yakult itself.
I say get rid of it, and at least remove the suggestion that his age had anything to do with his probiotics use until there is reliable scientific data to back up this claim. Wikipedia is not here to advertise Yakult.
Agree?--Roger Pilgham (talk) 12:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Totally agree. The health claims of probiotics are still discussed ; looks like it was edited by someone from Yakult--Gregopim (talk) 12:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial interest at work?

message: Reading H.G. Wells's God, the Invisible King, he makes reference to Mechnikov's (Metchnikoff in Wells) views on atheism expressed in The Nature of Man, something which this article does not appear to address.  As atheism appears, at least from Wells, to have been a major aspect of  The Nature of Man and there is no separate article on this work the present time, I think it would be prudent to add something on the matter.  Maybe somebody who is more knowledgeable on Mechnikov could make this inclusion?
Passercatulli (talk) 01:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Atheism

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=7qpHuXKsaC0C&pg=PA460&lpg=PA460&dq=Metchnikoff%2Bgerontology&source=bl&ots=FPPaWxiiA5&sig=V1mQlGIhrxtJrg8BIhzRS1rzl_0&hl=en&ei=nkP0Su_BBIXg8QbC2qjzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Metchnikoff%2Bgerontology&f=false
The man who first used the term gerontology, ...Ryoung122 15:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Coined term [[gerontology]]

message: is edit warring on this page. He is citing his changes in his edit summary, instead of in the article body, and his reference is a picture of a Russian-language book. I am up to 3 reverts myself on this article today, just wanted to inform other editors as to what is going on. To : Please use inline citations for your edits, and make sure you cite a verifiable, reliable source for your contrubution. —Josh3580talk/hist 21:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes by {{Userv|193.169.80.41}} 

message: It seems that Metchnikoff had also the French nationality
Is it correct ? Should it be mentioned here ?
--Gregopim (talk) 12:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: There is also confusion about Metchnikoff's date of death. The reason is that in his biography, his wife Olga is unclear about dates when she writes about his death, autopsy and cremation. I have just completed Metchnikoff's biography, the result of ten years of research, and have a copy of his death certificate from La Marie du Quinzieme Arrondissement de Paris. It states his date of death as 5:30 pm, July 15, 1916. 27 December 2015 lubav77Lubav77 (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Death 

message: Please add my new biography of Metchnikoff to Further Reading: 
Vikhanski, Luba (2016). Immunity: How Elie Metchnikoff Changed the Course of Modern Medicine. Chicago Review Press. ISBN:  978-1613731109. A new biography, using previously inaccessible archival material.
:*My book has just been (positively) reviewed by Kirkus Reviews, a trade magazine of the publishing industry. Perhaps this can give you confidence to post it? Here's the link: www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/luba-vikhanski/immunity-how-elie/ Thanks. 13 January 2016 lubav77Lubav77 (talk) 07:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Reading 

message: Photos from places in which Metchnikoff lived and worked  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lubav77 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I ran across a news article about a Russian vaccine manufacture called "Metchnikoff".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.56.88 (talk) 06:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian Pharmaceutical Company of same name

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message: Per one of the sources already cited in the article, Metchnikoff did anthropological work in the Kalmuk stepps and concluded that "[the] development of Mongol natives was arrested in comparison with that of the Caucasian race." Including this in the article. 2600:1700:A419:8030:400D:9067:2D36:A965 (talk) 01:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racism