Talk:Bernard Marshall Gordon

message: I dont think there is any question that his patents are reliable third-party sources. Also there are others already listed in the references. Maybe there needs to be some of those "[1]" links pointing to them? I dont know how to do that yet. Practically eberybody knows bernie gordon. I dont understand the problem. Ee signal 15:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just looked at Bill Gates. If nobody has any problems with that article, I can't imagine why anybody would disapprove of this one. Gordon is a saint compared to Gates. Ee signal 23:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Ee signal", I believe you are right when you say it just needs more "[1]" links.  The quality of an article and how well it is supported by other sources has nothing to do with the subject's ethics or "saint-hood" status.  Comparing this page to the Bill Gates article, this article has arguably no formal "References" section but the Gates article has 60 references which are conveniently associated with the passages in the article in its "Footnotes" section.   That, in my option, is the main reason this page was tagged with a  banner.  It has not as much to do with the reliability or WP:NPOV of the sources.  Sure, sources can be unreliable but say you had the choice of verifying the secondary sources of statements in this article or the Bill Gates article.  The later would be much easier.  Adding references is easy, you can either just put brackets around web addresses at the ends of the appropriate sentences. For example, right in the summary section at the top, it mentions $120 million in philanthropy and gives a direct quote from Mr. Gordon, all it needs to back that up is "" at the end of the quote.  For more sophisticated formatting, see Template:Cite web and Template:Cite news or just hit [edit] in any section the Gates article to see how they do it. --Georgeryp 21:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Mr. 32.97.110.142, gosh, is that your real name? Your minimal edits have been mainly on musical instruments. That you should stray so far as here indicates to me you have your own reasons. We can safely ignore you, I think. Now, for the rest of you, this article is my fault. It is certainly not true that there are no 3rd-party refs. I didn't do the references right, being inexperienced at the time. No, Bernie did not do this article. He has more important things to tend to. I did it. Gordon is an important inventor and philanthropist. So is Bill Gates. So are a lot of Americans. That is what we are all about, you know? Wikipedia is to some extent a Who's who, just as it is a musical encyclopedia, a classical encyclopedia, etc. etc. If you don't like the way I did the article, do another one. Stand behind your words. Actually I don't like the way I did it either. I'm going to rework it starting at the bottom. I always do things backwards. It will take a while as I got other WP projects I would like to do. If you see a way to improve it, step in. WP invites editors. And, if you see a way to fix the Bill Gates article, on behalf of WP I invite you to edit that too. As for the tag, well, I generally leave those on until the issue has been solidly addressed. The circumstance that some of you don't get yet is, you are not being invited to get nasty, you are being invited to contribute. Yes, you. Can you do that?Dave (talk) 03:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
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