Talk:Moonraker (film)

message: Whoever has taken it upon themselves to rid not only this article, but all the 007 movie articles of their trivia sections is little more than a vandal.  Fair enough, if the info in said trivia sections was integrated into the main body of the article, but to totally remove the sections, with no regard whatsoever for the info within them is vandalism and almost unbelievably arrogant.  Intregrate the trivia and I have no problems.  Remove the trivia and that's another thing entirley.  (Callum J. Stewart 17:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: TRIVIA SECTION!

message: *I think there is no need for this page to be seperate from the film page--Scottmcmaster 11:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My appologies I should not have used the word removed.  What I meant to say was merged.  The information in those articles is very useful, but may purhaps be better situated within the main article where it is easily discovered.--Scottmcmaster 12:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of List of James Bond allies in Moonraker into Moonraker (Film)

message: I see no need for this unless it makes Moonraker (film) too long. Anthony Appleyard 08:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting off [[Moonraker (film)#Soundtrack]] as a separate page

message: This is a British film and the adaptation was a British publication; therefore we use the British spelling novelisation with an S, per WP:STYLE. 23skidoo 05:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the British spelling is "novelization". Fanthrillers (talk) 17:55, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's both.  However, been here, done that, moved on to plot revisions instead - which is a better use of all our time.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:08, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Novelisation, not novelization

message: Isn't it a goof that bond looks in the direction of movement in the centrifuge? Shouldn't he look into the centre of it to be pressed into the seat? --Abe Lincoln 19:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't tink so. Just thing about what happens if you quickly accelerate your car. YOu get pressed into your seat.--87.179.246.164 (talk) 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goof 

message: The poster shown clearly indicates the film will be out "next summer". Does anyone have a copy of the release version of the movie poster? John Carter 18:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie poster 

message: "The film received a German title with the phrase 'top secret' in it, which caused a minor problem during translations of the title of the next movie For Your Eyes Only." What does this mean???? Dollvalley 07:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German title sentence 

message: Per WikiProject James Bond, I'm going to add a plot summary to the header and move the second and third paragraphs ("It was based on ...among many other places") to the commentary section, as it seems more appropriate that it should be found there. 86.143.162.224 17:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor structural changes and summary 

message: Has anybody more information about these?
18:45, 05. May 2007 (CEST)
The question is, does anybody have a reference for what's out there already? ColdFusion650 16:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unseen scenes 

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message: Deleted the following sentence as it doesn't need to be explained:
"It is also unexplained how Drax or his henchmen could kill the large and powerful Jaws."
Drax men could have shoot him with their laser guns for instance.
unknown IP 17:28, 30 Dec 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted content

message: Rumors claim that one of Drax' beauties is the daughter of Lois Maxwell, the Miss Moneypenny actress. But which one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.224.233.254 (talk) 16:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lois Maxwell's daughter

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message: maybe it was already there in previous films, but i have seen them all recently, and watching this film i'm noticing that there is quite a lot of it. marlboro, 7up, and of course, british airways (for one, the sign that the ambulance guy crashes into after being ejected from the ambulance on a stretcher and rolling down an incline).
not sure if this deserves a mention in the article, but thought it's worth pointing out. if anyone happens to know anything specific to the history of the film series, regarding choices to include more product placement in this film, or even about product placement history in films in general, such as if it started happening a lot more around the time moonraker was made, it might be interesting. obviously the marlboro placement (a pack in a drawer, a billboard, and probably more) stands out since cigarette brands are rarely advertised in films, or anywhere on screen these days. --Jdb00 (talk) 02:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been product placement in all Bond films, from Dr. No onwards - the next instalment of Bond will see at least a third of the $135million budget coming from sponsors.  See http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/more-than-a-word-from-007s-sponsors/story-e6frg6so-1226047962752. -  SchroCat (^ • @) 08:51, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  advertising/product placement 

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Blogalongabond—Moonraker: When Powers met Skywalker
Posted by Michael Mand ⋅ November 18, 2011
“Mocking a Bond film for its absurdity is like taking Picasso to task for being abstract; that’s the essence of their art. Albert R Broccoli’s spy series has provided plenty of guffaw-provoking moments down the years, however, 1979’s Moonraker remains the epitome of Bond silliness, throwing in a dash of cynicism and plenty of comic cheese to boot.  .  .  ”  
“  .  .  .  while a laboratory’s entry keypad actually plays the chimes from Close Encounters’ alien craft.  .  .  ”
“  .  .  .  Certainly there is fun to be had, particularly as Bond is stalked by yet more potential assassins while cruising the canals of Venice; one scene involves a knife-throwing killer rising from a floating coffin, before Bond quickly returns him from whence he came. However, this is followed by a scene in which 007 outruns a speedboat in a motorised gondola, before taking it onto dry land for a drive through the Piazza San Marco. It’s more Benny Hill than Bond, and even features a ridiculous double-taking pigeon. Similarly, the use of music from other films to soundtrack key set pieces, such as The Magnificent Seven during a bizarre scene when Bond dresses as a cowboy, simply adds to the feeling that this is self-parody of the silliest kind.  .  .  ”
“  .  .  .  In this post-Bourne world, and in the light of Daniel Craig’s emotionally damaged, action-thug Bond, Moonraker seems camp and unbelievable. Equally ludicrous moments pop up throughout the Bond series, but this film’s attempt to stitch so many together, while self-consciously playing the ‘comedy’ card, leave it feeling retrospectively Powers-lite and very much of its moment.  .  .  ”
::I think this review brings up some good points.  Bond movies have always been a mix of comedy and action.  And I'm not sure we acknowledge this front and center like maybe we should.  FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 22:46, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with SchroCat. Not worth noting. - Fanthrillers (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review, claiming ''Moonraker'' went too far on comedy side 

message: Currently, our Plot section seems to be written for people already familiar with the Bond style of films.  It's as if it's a plot summary to be given to a producer who already knows that of course the film will also have a lot of romance and comedy.
I think we should do both.  Early on, maybe even in the lead, say something such as: 'Like most Bond films, Moonraker also includes substantial elements of . . . '
And probably also include some of the details such as.  Well, on the romance side, that James and Corinne romantically and sexually spent the night together.  That when James and Holly decided to join forces, they also spent the night together, but James snuck out early the next morning (after seeing an airline ticket for a trip Holly didn't tell him about) and which he later justifies as tripping on her luggage on the way out.
And on the comedy side, well, clearly the gondola which turns into a hoover craft and the pigeon with the double take, and probably the bad guy in the stretch who ends up stuck in the cigarette ad.  And there is also musical comedy of sorts, the Close Encounters of the Third Kind music for the code to the lab door, the stereotypical falling in love music when Jaws and Dolly first meet, some stereotypical western music as James wears a poncho and rides a horse.
Our current Plot section is fine as a base and a skeleton.  But, for the unfamiliar reader, he or she might get the wrong idea (for the film is not hard action throughout).  I do think we should consider including some of the comedy and romance.  FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure that's such a good idea, I'm afraid. The plot section as it currently stands covers the plot, which is what it should be about, as per WP:FILMPLOT. As per FILMPLOT, the section should not "make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims", which is partly what you are suggesting. For the rest, concepts such as comedy are subjective and what you find comedic others won't, especially as it it will lose a lot in the translation into encyclopaedic prose. Finally, this article is just about at 700 words, and plot summaries for feature films should be between 400 and 700 words, so to add anything means that the core elements of the plot will have to be removed to make space, and it is more appropriate to have a full description of the plot than our WP:OR secondary descriptions of comedy or romance. - SchroCat (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Schro.  All Bond films have comedy and romance in them, and though I'll admit that Moonraker scores highly in both areas, that doesn't make it unique from any of the other films really.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with SchroCat and Chaheel. - Fanthrillers (talk) 20:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Plot section also include the comedy and romance aspects of the film? 

message: Caption under the picture of Roger Moore in the gondola calls the craft an 'inflatable gondola'. It was not an inflatable gondola; it was a gondola that became a hovercraft. 71.79.167.161 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 03:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for the delay in picking up on it.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 22:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Error under the picture of the Gondola

message: Most of the James Bond articles have both sections for reviews, to show which came from the time, and which came after the theatrical run of the film. Most of the reviews of Bond's films haven't changed over time, but Moonraker's have, since most of the reviews from the time considered it either the second best, or even best Bond film, and most of the reflective reviews consider the film somewhat outlandish due to the ideas in the plot.--SexyKick 16:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase is Retrospective reviews not Reflective reviews. Retrospective, from the Latin "looking back" wikt:retrospective. -- 109.76.202.17 (talk) 19:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review section should be split between contemporary, and reflective. 

message: Having just watched (again!) the movie, I noticed that the speedboat used by Bond in the river chase scene (aprox.95 min into the movie) has the "Glaston CARLSON" brand & model markings clearly visible under the windshield side. If I recall correctly this was the same boat brand used in "Live and Let Die". Maybe the river chase scenes were filmed back in USA? If so I couldn't find any comment in the article. Regards, DPdH (talk) 00:38, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It would need a good reliable source for inclusion, rather than just the name on the boat - that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. - SchroCat (talk) 07:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Cut your f****g wikitricks - the boat IS a Glast_R_on (sic!) CV-23HT speedboat! You can see it in the 007-Museum, in it´s original film-shape including the moonraker-gadgets. 2003:DC:F735:A700:A919:4FA3:8A45:D04F (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Glaston boat(s) 

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message: The article stayes that the piano piece Drax is playing when Bond meets him is played in D major, rather than D-flat as the title suggests. This is incorrect. The piece is being played in D-flat. 2600:1700:720F:8000:C58B:2030:B4B8:D314 (talk) 04:38, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Any and all such analysis by ear is original research, so it's been removed entirely. DonQuixote (talk) 04:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piano piece is in D-flat 

message: :
How truly freaky.  I also remember watching this and remembering that Dolly was wearing braces, which was the point of the entire joke.  I wonder if, like others, I am confusing my recollection with a popular spoof like an SNL sketch that came later. Viriditas (talk) 01:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Update:  I’ve been reading up on this and I’m truly disturbed by it.  I don’t believe in the so-called "Mandela Effect", as it makes little sense to me, but I do remember seeing Dolly with braces on when the film was originally released.  Looking into this, some people are arguing in online forums that there must have been multiple prints with alternate scenes, and for whatever reason, the braces scene was cut. One of the more convincing arguments says there was a continuity error in an original print, with Dolly wearing braces before she is later shown not wearing them so the scene was cut and replaced in later prints or versions.  The problem with this theory is that people have allegedly got a hold of other prints that don’t contain it, as well as VHS and other mediums.  This is incredibly strange to me, but I think there was an alternate print at one point, and this has happened before with other films. Viriditas (talk) 02:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Braces 

message: (Last sentence in the introduction) That´s not "outer" space - they´re still in earth´s orbit. 2003:DC:F735:A700:A919:4FA3:8A45:D04F (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  OUTER Space?