Talk:Oddworld

message: In the "Unreleased games" section, it mentions the "The Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot" is not likley to be set in oddworld.  Does anybody have proof or is this speculation?   —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Noxis12 (talk • contribs). 
Lorne Lanning, the creator of Oddworld and Fanugs, explained it to my friend Xavier and I when we had a sit down chat with him and Sherry McKenna in October 2006. I publicized the information on our fansite, OddBlog: http://oddworldlibrary.net/oddblog/specials/Meeting_Lorne_and_Sherry
Wil (talk) 15:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fangus not in OddWorld?

message: These games are graphically very strong, and there's plenty of material available to add to this article. I think it would be great if some pictures were added.--Michiel Sikma 20:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Anyone else think we can make articles for the individual games and put some of this in there? --InShaneee 04:33, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds a bonza idea! --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 19:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

text: There is an Abe's Oddysee article, but the redirects and search pages are all screwed up. And for some reason, all the articles about Oddworld that I can find are really poorly written. Even this one. Nothing I can do about it, I'm a really bad editor Vimescarrot 20:47, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting Up

message: I nearly read the stranger spoiler from my watchlist about why he needs 20000 moolah, but lucky i didn't read it fully, so can someone add a spoiler warning at the top?
Dumoren 06:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think we should add a spoiler warning at the top of the article 

message: Some of the links under the species section (Ratz, Slogs, Slegs, Grubbs) lead to articles unrelated to the game rather than articles having to do with the Oddworld species. Fix? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.80.107.170 (talk) 06:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links? 

message: Excuse me, English it is not my native laguage and there is something I didn't get to understand. When it says "Oddworld, as a planet, is measured as ten times the size of the Earth" it means ten times bigger or ten times smaller? thank you
It means 10 times bigger then earth.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Noxis12 (talk • contribs). 
 Thank you noxis  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emanuel556 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small doubt 

message: The article Mudos does not seem to have sufficient stand-alone notability to warrant an article. As the fiction guideline specifies, "fictional concepts are deemed notable if they have received substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources." The only source cited in this article is a wiki, which is not within policy. However, since it is a plausible search term, I would prefer to propose merging the article rather than nominate it for deletion. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I redirected it. It was just one of the ten or so randomly created articles for this series that asserted absolutely no notability. TTN (talk) 00:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Suits me. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: This section is a bit too crufty and unnecessary information, such as the notable characters that belong to the races, needs to be removed. All of the creatures that only serve as ammo in Stranger's Wrath probably need to be removed as well. And while I don't think it's a necessity, it would be really cool if it could be rewritten so that it doesn't look like a list as well. It would enhance the quality of the article as well.  ♣ Bishop Tutu  Chat wit' me  §  Contributions ♣ 05:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Think of Sevel Nord butchering most of the Citroen Jumpies from 1995 til 2006. You did the same, as you completely butchered the Creatures list. =¦ Tommy Vercetti 15:28, February 15, 2008. ¦=  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.123.249 (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  De-listify and de-[[WP:FAN|cruft]] "Creatures" section 

message: I remember coming to this page some time ago and seeing some info about an upcoming planned Oddworld animated feature. Whatever happened to that, and was there originally a source for that information? Esn (talk) 22:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't remove it personally, but I believe the source was unreliable (a wiki, if I remember correctly). Bridies (talk) 22:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Citizen Siege?  What does this film have to do with Oddworld?  The plot doesn't seem to be related at all. PubliusFL (talk) 21:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Oddworld feature film?

message: I edited the section on gamespeak a little, hope I did alright.
By the way, the section on future games should just be changed into a section about when the games were announced. And the info should be stripped down to the bare facts, such as, "This was said on that date by this person concerning that". That way it's not speculatory, it's recording events chronologically. :)
-Searchman  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.196.11.183 (talk) 02:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing

message: The article has a bit of relevant real world information, so it can either go under a specific character section or development section. TTN (talk) 20:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article currently has a few sentences of primary real world information. That kind does not establish any sort of notability. If you can create a reception section that amounts to more than a bunch of passing mentions of the character, that would actually do something. Series articles often have summaries of the games within them, so that would be fine here. One section titled "Characters" could cover a trimmed down version of the characteristics section, which is definitely bloated, and other characters of the series. The same character section could hold the real world information, or it could be placed into a development section. TTN (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What is "primary real world information"? I don't usually edit video game articles, so I don't know all the terms. The real world information I added to the article I found in just an hour's searching and editing. Don't you think that a more knowledgeable person with more resources could find much more? There are also WP:RSs used to source plot information. As to the character's notability, please look at books like this, (page 137 in particular) where the character is written about like he was a character in a novel or film. I'll look for more sources and information, but I have other articles on my to-do list so it might take me a few days. Bláthnaid talk 21:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Primary real world information is stuff like creation and development information. It allows for context, but it does not show that the topic is notable to the world. The kind that establishes notability is reception and real world impact. It has to show that the character is more than a part of the game series. TTN (talk) 21:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for explaining. However, the main notability guideline says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be a suitable article topic."--this is in the article. The WP:FICT essay says it "should demonstrate real-world notability from reliable sources. Articles on of works of fiction should strive to include information on critical reception, viewings or sales figures, development and other information from reliable sources."--some of this is in the article. WP:FICT also says "For fictional elements, this will typically include the real-world context and analysis of the elements, and can [not should] include influence and other aspects of its development, critical reception of the elements, and popularity of the element through readership/viewership ratings and marketing." (my italics and inclusion)--There is information on real-world context, analysis, and information about popularity in the article. You seem to be asking for more than the basic notability guideline and fiction essay requires. Anyway the lead section now has information about how the character is more than a part of the series, and I will keep adding more information and sources. Bláthnaid talk 21:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm talking about actual practice rather than A says B. Those can only go so far as guidelines, so they cannot specifically state everything that belongs in an article. Characters need reception to show notability. Creation helps, but primary information is not something that can show "This is notable in the real world." TTN (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree as the guidelines are supposed to describe the generally accepted standard for notability, and the article also meets the stricter WP:FICT essay. That being said, there was already some information about real world impact and reception in the article, and I have added more. Bláthnaid talk 17:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My point is that they can't directly state what is necessary. Generally, two or more paragraphs are necessary for video game characters, but they can't really state something so specific. The information in the article is on the right track, but it really isn't enough. Cloud Strife#Cultural impact, Sarah Kerrigan#Reception, Soma Cruz#Reception, and Arbiter (Halo)#Cultural impact are some good examples of what is necessary. TTN (talk) 17:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They are Good Articles. This is not a Good Article nomination. I am just establishing this article's basic notability, so that it can remain and be developed and improved in the future. The article meets WP:N, WP:FICT, and I have added information that shows the character has had real-world impact (by the way, it looks likely that Abe was featured in 2 songs by Music Instructor, not just one; however, I haven't found a WP:RS for this information yet.) Bláthnaid talk 18:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

text: While it is organized strangely, it is still a series article. Those are usually fine to have around. TTN (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the article isn't great. I have some WP:RS gathered that can be used in this article, so I will try to improve it a little. Bláthnaid talk 17:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

text: The article does meet WP:V. All the real-world information is sourced to reliable secondary sources, and it is acceptable to use the game itself as a source of basic plot information (WP:PRIMARY). I have also added quite a few secondary sources to support plot information (here, for example.) I also think it meets WP:N, as I explained above. Bláthnaid talk 22:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge reverted because most oppose. -- 92.1.230.129 (talk) 17:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: Please stop changing this. The title of the series is the Oddworld Quintology.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.178.134 (talk) 09:26, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quintology, not Pentalogy 

message: About this SligStorm game,isn't a Slig a big ugly beast that was in Oddworld:Stanger's Warth?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.63.46 (talk) 17:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abou 

message: I'm thinking the title and this page are out of sync with each other. The lead starts off talking about Oddworld, as in, a fictional planet, but then the body of the article talks about the games that have been produced by Oddworld Inhabitants as a real-world production company. So is this article about a fictional planet, or about the real life creators of the games that take place on this fictional planet? And furthermore, there is a separate article titled Oddworld Inhabitants that is very bare-bones. Hence, that and this article should be combined into one, under the title of Oddworld Inhabitants talking about the production company. Then, the lead in this article should be moved into the main body under a section titled Oddworld, which would concern the planet itself. 
U2hmtmkmkm (talk) 11:31, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Title