Talk:Deaths in June 2007

message: I was just about to add Kelsey Smith (the recent murder victim) to this list.  However, as I was doing so, I realized that I had two questions: (1) Is a murder victim of appropriate notability to add to this list? (2) How does this list handle dates of death that are inexact?  Thanks for any input.  (JosephASpadaro 21:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While Kelsey's death was certainly tragic, I do not believe she fits into the "notable" category.  Until such time as someone builds a wiki page specifically for her, I would say she does not belong in the Notable Deaths page.  Just my opinion of course. Tom M. 02:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Kelsey Smith does have a Wikipedia article, but her notability is currently being debated. WWGB 04:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia has many articles on murder victims, "notable" only for the their status as murder victims (e.g., Laci Peterson, Kitty Genovese, etc.).  I will add Kelsey Smith to this list.  Does anyone know the proper format for an inexact date of death?  (JosephASpadaro 05:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Kelsey Smith main article survived the deletion debate. Guess it's another example of Missing white woman syndrome. WWGB 01:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: If murderers are "notable" when put to death, then why not the victim? --Runway27r 09:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a very good question, and I applaud your compassion, Runway27r.  The ugly fact is that society tends to focus their hatred on perpetrators, who tend to get a lot more media coverage than the otherwise non-entity victims (unless the victim just happens to be a celebrity such as Sharon Tate or JFK, for example).  For the purposes of encyclopedias, we can think of it like this, dispassionately - the victim did nothing notable, because being murdered is not an action of the victim; whereas the action of the perpetrator, while abhorrent, is something they did that made them notable, if infamous.  That's not to say that I agree we should add every single executee to this list, nor exclude every single victim.  --  JackofOz 10:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think there is any "rule" in such cases. The last similar event I can recall was the disappearance of Andrew McAuley whose death is listed at Deaths in February 2007#9 20 on the last day that he was known to be alive. Using a similar approach, it would be appropriate to list Ms Smith's death on 2 June. WWGB 14:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks.  I will abide by that.  But in the interest of encyclopedic accuracy, there really should be some notation in these cases that a date is the date of abduction or the date that the individual went missing, etc.  There should be some explanatory note when the date of death is uncertain or unknown, in order to be factually accurate.  Thanks.  (JosephASpadaro 23:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Why is he listed as the "American" owner of the Drury Lane Theatre?  This would seem to imply that he owned the Drury Lane Theatre in London, which was not the case.  He owned the theatre of the same name in Chicago.  Not surprising that he was an American.  Perhaps it should read "Owner of the American Drury Lane Theatre"
*he's listed thus cuz we have a format for these entries where we state the person's nationality after their name and age but before their reason for notability and cause of death. If there's a grey area over which Drury Lane Theatre is meant, it should be easy enough to disambiguate by pipelinking, a note in brackets or even just the different spelling of "Theater" (assuming the American one is in fact spelt "–er"). also add new entries to the bottom pls. Best, tomasz. 11:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: For this external link for Natasja Saad (died on the 24th).  I won't embarrass myself by hazarding a guess... --zenohockey 17:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Danish - appropriate annotation added. Thanks, WWGB 03:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: According to this link, , somone called Carlos Romero died on June 21, 2007. It is also on the Social Security Death Index. The birth date, 15 February, 1927, matches the actor who played Carlo Agretti in Falcon Crest. The place of death was Ferndale, California, and actor Romero was born in Hollywood, California. Does anyone out there know if it is the one and the same person? Does anyone out there have any additional information?
Cesar Romero was the name of the Actor who played Carlo Agretti, and he died January 1st 1994.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.190.24.203 (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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