Talk:International Crisis Group

message: The ICG is a government sponsored NGO.  It is used as a depository of former US, UK and other Western and Japanese diplomats out of power in their respective parties' normal rotating door in and out of office.
It cannot be viewed as independent of US or UK influence and is NOT an actor on its own in international conflict.  It is also an opaque outfit more closely resembling a lobby or a think thank than an NGO worth its salt like MSF or Caritas.
The foundations are also extensions of the various national foreign affairs departments, rarely acting on their own, and often within the framework of their national policies -- e.g. the Ford Foundation during the cold war.
None of this is particularly odious, but it needs to be put here and I am frankly amazed at the vitriol I am reading above.
The ICG is NOT NEUTRAL and to try to present it as such is an attempt to control information, stifle debate,  and squash alternatives.---UNSIGNED ANONYMOUS CONTRIBUTION.
SIGN YOUR EDITS.---Dagme (talk) 13:56, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism in Context 

message: I'm only passing but this article's pure whitewash and, reading the discussion page, it's pretty clear it's being deliberately kept so. A balanced rewrite from scratch which avoids any input from interested parties is high priority. As it stands currently it could be a bland corporate handout. JohnHarris (talk) 10:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't call the article whitewash, but it's not a decent encyclopedia article, it's more of an outreach page/extension of ICG's own website. 71.82.157.201 (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of balance 

message: It is amazing how US diplomats are founding "goverment indepndent" organizations to "help" solving conflicts that are in major creatd by US goverment and accidentaly "facilitated" by exactly those organizations... It is also amazing how ICG is in tune with view of NATO goverments and James Layon is e.g now no more but OHR servant supported by, let me think, ah yes NATO goverments. And something that called itself encyclopedia cannot notice such a coincidence... :-D
Natzi could not do it better. Look just the views, of course un biassed and neutral, and it is hard to fail to notice that they are in compliance with NATO media... Just look any conflict in the world covered by CNN and compare with WIKI views, any difference?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.54.28 (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WIKI IDIOCRACY 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A SPA, namely Msunnucks, came by on 3 April 2019, removed all refs to third party sources (and I do mean all), leaving as sole refs... citations to the International Crisis Group.  The article ended up being a promotional advertisement for ICG.
I have not deleted the info Msunnucks added, as it provides additional detail regarding the organization, what it presumably does, etc., though, again, it is all clearly promotional to the organisation itself and is all sourced to itself.  Maybe one day I should make my own Wiki entry with all the wonderful things I do in real life?  Oh, no, I wouldn't, because it would be against policy!
I have restored all third party sources. XavierItzm (talk) 14:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPA edits 

message: Please delete "The organization's actions and funding have been the subject of controversy".
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooke5 (talk • contribs) 13:08, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies comment founded on false information about funding 

message: * Mentioning controversy in the lead section is usually not necessary, especially considering that the controversy section in the main prose is not especially hidden or otherwise difficult to find. 
* Also, mentioning that "the company is involved in controversy" in the lead section without at least a cursory elaboration on the elements of that controversy does not seem to fit with the intent of WP:CSECTION, which is that controversial items in an article ought to be well-explained and fully integrated into the overall article, and should not be made to stand out in a conspicuous way. 
Regards,  Spintendo  02:39, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 04-JUN-2019

message: Please delete "23% of the ICG's budget comes from the government of Qatar, it was reported in 2019.[19]" and replace with "It was wrongly alleged that Crisis Group received $4 million from the Qatari government in one year, making up around 23% of its budget. Crisis Group receives funding from about 20 governments, each contributing a maximum of  $1 million/year. This is the case for Qatar, whose contribution accounts for roughly 5% of total funding from all sources. A breakdown of their funding is published on their website." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooke5 (talk • contribs) 07:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now removed the mention of Qatar entirely, as it seemed odd to single out one donor. My preference would be for the article to include a summary of the organisation's largest funders (possibly including Qatar), but I will need to find a source that provides a breakdown because I don't want to have to work it out from the accounts. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qatar funding founded on false information and inaccurate source 

message: Putting all criticism in one section all the way at the bottom is basically the worst way you can deal with negative information other than to completely remove it all. Poveglia (talk) 17:24, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section - NPOV