Talk:Federico García Lorca/Archive 1

message: I think that Lorca graduated from Columbia University in 1929. Should this be added to article? See link in Columbia Daily Spectator. Matanariel 15:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Columbia University 

message: Was his execution considered extrajudicial? If so, he should not be categorized in Category:People executed by firing squad. __meco 11:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorizing execution 

message: The sentence that begins "García Lorca's stay in America.." is a fragment... FYI to the page's regulars.  I didn't take a crack at it.. 68.122.32.114 20:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fragment 

message: Hello all. This pages doesn't appear to be very active, but I thought I'd ask a question anyhow. 
Having grouped Lorca under the category Modernist Drama, Theatre and Performance, I've noticed that there doesn't appear to be a subcategory for him; either for the Category of Plays by Nationality/Spanish plays or for Plays by author/Federico Garcia Lorca plays. So I've decided to create the relevant pages, but have now noticed that the separate articles on Lorca's plays do not appear to conform to the Wiki standard of naming articles that are titles of plays by non-English-speaking dramatists in their most-commonly-used English translation, rather than their original title. Is there a reason for this? Thanks, DionysosProteus 19:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming convention for titles of plays in separate articles 

message: >>> When war broke out in 1936, García Lorca left Madrid for Granada 
This is a plain mistake. Everybody interested in García Lorca knows (should know) that he left Madrid just after José Calvo Sotelo murder (July 13, 1936) but before the beginning of the Spanish Civil War (July 18, 1936). Most precissely on July 15.
I will fix this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.42.232.175 (talk) 16:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final return to Granada 

message: I think that It is better to say simply that he died in the Spanish Civil War, it's not necessary to write that decree killed it, is of badly taste.--85.152.177.217 (talk) 17:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Died 

message: I could have sworn that this man was once Slavador Dali's lover... I read it somewhere... I'll look into it I guess. Twitterpated. (talk) 
23:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I definitely heard that. I thought they actually slept with each other at one point, and that's when Dali became "genophobic"...hmm..Twitterpated. (talk) 22:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Dali? 

message: According to the BBC , the Lorca family has given permission to exhume his body. However, I'm not sure if this is notable until they actually do find and exhume his body. Copana2002 (talk) 17:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exhumation 

message: I have added:
"However, Lorca was apolitical and it is indisputable that Lorca had friends in both Republican and Nationalist camps. The Basque poet and Communist Gabriel Celaya wrote in his Memoirs that he once found Lorca in the company of Phalangist José Maria Aizpurua and that Lorca told him that he dined with Falangist leader, José Antonio Primo de Riviera, in whose company Celaya had once found him previously, every Friday.[8]" after previous attempts to make the point were deleted without comment. I feel the wiki entry should explore the ambiguity of the times, I also think that some reference/cite MUST be provided to demonstrate that Lorca actually supported the Popular Front...Lorca was savaged in the Republican press on 18 July 1936 for having left Madrid  and his friend Alberti was criticized by the liberal Ramon Perez de Ayala for going to the airwaves with an attack on the putchists, which he falsely attributed to Lorca. Lorca's dedicated foes were not the revolutionaries and radicals of the Falange but traditional conservatives like the civilian governor of Grenada, Jose Valdes Guzman. After being attacked by Nationalist militia, Lorca actually sought refuge with Falangist friends.99.240.142.65 (talk) 23:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lorca and Politics 

message: :"There was huge controversy in the late 1910's when many considered him homosexual, thus his plays bieng largely based around women to mask his sexuality"
I think the statement above is P.O.V. It suggests that we can somehow 'know' that Lorca wrote about women because he wanted to hide his sexuality, when the work I've read suggests a far more nuanced reading than this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.139.244 (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; unless there are sources where people suggest that he was writing about women to mask his homosexuality; even though to state such would be to make an assumption no one can prove or disprove without a quote by the author, if that is what the contraversy was about, then it does belong in the article. Mrathel (talk) 14:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV? 

message: I think this is not a C class article at present. It can use more fleshing still, but it certainly works well as a good overview of his life and works, in my op. I have done some copy editing for grammar and fluency. I've taken out the broken links and generally cleaned it up a little. Can we resubmit it? Spanglej (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a C class article 

message: I removed this new chunk because it seems a long section of opinion based on a one hour conversation Borges had with Lorca. It doesn't seem to add anything substantive - all that I get from this is that he didn't like Lorca. It also probably infringes copyright because its so long. 
In an interview during the 1960s, Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges was asked about Lorca's iconic status. He responded, "I suppose he had the good luck to be executed, no? I had an hour's chat with him in Buenos Aires. He struck me as a kind of play actor, no? Living up to a certain role. I mean, being a professional Andalusian... But in the case of Lorca, it was very strange bcause I lived in Andalusia and the Andalusians aren't a bit like that. His were stage Andalusians. Maybe he thought that in Buenos Aires he had to live up to that character, but in Andalusia, people are not like that. In fact, if you are in Andalusia, if you are talking to a man of letters and you speak to him about bullfights, he'll say, 'Oh well, that sort of this pleases people, I suppose, but really the torero works in no danger whatsoever. Because they are bored by these things, because every writer is bored by the local color in his own country. Well, when I met Lorca, he was being a professional Andalusian... Besides, Lorca wanted to astonish us. He said to me that he was very troubled about a very important figure in the contemporary world. A character in whom he could see all the tragedy of American life. And then he went on in this way until I asked him who was this character and it turned out this character was Mickey Mouse. I suppose he was trying to be clever. And I thought, 'That's the kind of thing you say when you are very, very young and you want to astonish somebody.' But after all, he was a grown man, he had no need, he could have talked in a different way. But when he started in about Mickey Mouse being a symbol of America, there was a friend of mine there and he looked at me and I looked at him and we both walked away because we were too old for that kind of game, no? Even at that time. Richard Burgin, Conversations with Jorge Luis Borges, Holt, Rhinehart, & Winston, 1968. Pages 93-94. 
When asked for his opinion of Lorca's poetry, Borges continued, "Well, [Lorca had] a gift for gab. For example, he makes striking metaphors, but I think he makes striking metaphors for him, because I think that his world was mostly verbal.I think that he was fond of playing words against each other, the contrast of words, but I wonder if he knew what he was doing. Ibid, page 95. 
Ref:  ^ Richard Burgin, Conversations with Jorge Luis Borges, Holt, Rhinehart, & Winston, 1968. Pages 93-94.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanglej (talk • contribs) 23:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Borges opinion of Lorca

message: The Romancero gitano should be more extensively described as perhaps his best Work.
The music by  Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco which outstandigly completes the poems should be mentioned.
Björn Bernersen    bjorn.bernersn@gmail.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.91.34.127 (talk) 20:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it - add detail! Spanglej (talk) 00:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music with the poems og F G Lorca 

message: Sad that the article fails to discuss the ongoing censorship of Lorca's work. It's difficult to understand his life, death and work without recognizing the ongoing obliteration. These links may prove helpful to someone:  "They never found me? No. They never found me." Twang (talk) 06:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add in the sourced details. I'm not sure it's sad, so much as missing (as much is at the moment). Spanglej (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Censorship

message: I move to split off "works based on Garcia Lorca"  to a separate article in a bid to start a clean up. Other articles in this manner include Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, Edgar Allen Poe, Sherlock Holmes and Alexander the Great. Any objections? Spanglej (talk) 01:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You might consider a "Bibliography" article, in line with the treatment of other writers on Wikpedia, but a list of works in the main article should remain - it's a basic expectation for the casual browser that shouldn't require a subsequent link. DionysosProteus (talk) 14:26, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the list of works would remain, sure.  I'm not at all sure "Works based on Lorca" would serve a purpose as an trivia list article. Best wishes Spanglej (talk) 18:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  split off works based on Lorca listing 

message: Would a biography section be to add?
 Liam987 17:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography 

message: Nowhere in this article is Lorca's self-exile to NY mentioned. I'm trying to research causes for this exile (pressure under the dictatorship, his political views, homosexuality, etc.) and I think it would be helpful to mention this as an important stage in his life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.189.109.69 (talk) 03:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-exile 

message: "Name of Federico García Lorca's lover emerges after 70 years". Span (talk) 23:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of Federico García Lorca's lover emerges after 70 years

message: Spanglej would prefer our lead-in paragraph to state that Lorca 'may have been shot' during the Spanish Civil War (see , ), claiming there is 'no conclusive evidence' to support the firmer phrasing 'was shot'. On the contrary, the accounts by Ian Gibson (The Assassination of Federico García Lorca, 1983), Leslie Stainton (Lorca: A Dream of Life, 1999) and others present a large body of evidence, including eyewitness acccounts, that give us a solid and well-researched account of the events. Spanglej, can you point to any example of a serious scholar disputing the general circumstances of Lorca's death? If not, saying 'was' instead of 'may have been' is completely in line with published scholarship and what the article should state. --Nine Tail Fox\talk 11:26, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of any commentary from Spanglej, I've gone ahead and restored the article to its former phrasing. --Nine Tail Fox\talk 18:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circumstances of Lorca's death 

message: I'm not sure that this section, while expansive, actually adds much to the article. It has a negative impact on readability and in general we have a preference for keeping lists embedded in articles as short as possible. I'm wondering if there is consensus to move it to a separate list article (e.g. 'List of works based on Federico García Lorca') per WP:SPLITLIST. Any thoughts? --Nine Tail Fox\talk 09:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  'List of works based on Lorca' 

message: I notice that the only critical work listed for this article is my own book Apocryphal Lorca.  While I am glad that my book is listed, I think there are many other books. I am not the best person to contribute to this article since a lot of what I would say would be "original research." 
Jonathan Mayhew  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.5.80.73 (talk) 16:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical Works 

message: User:Nine Tail Fox/List of works based on Federico García Lorca has been in sandbox for ages, and Nine Tail Fox seems to have retired for the time being. Is it of any use? No. Jamesx12345 21:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  List 

message: An official report recently brought to light by Ian Gibson confirms that the government of Granada ordered Lorca's execution for being a homosexual, a mason and a Socialist. 
cadenaser.com/programa/2015/04/23/hoy_por_hoy/1429768693_908931.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.20.211.90 (talk) 09:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motives for Lorca's Assassination 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Federico García Lorca. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131019072937/http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=8337 to http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=8337
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140220111717/http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/16/europe/spain.php to http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/16/europe/spain.php
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120227035343/http://www.cceia.org/resources/articles_papers_reports/957.html to http://www.cceia.org/resources/articles_papers_reports/957.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120718184329/http://www.garcia-lorca.org/Home/Idioma.aspx to http://www.garcia-lorca.org/Home/Idioma.aspx
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 09:26, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on Federico García Lorca. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090907111739/http://www.thespco.org:80/program_notes/0708/20th%20Century_Upshaw.html to http://www.thespco.org/program_notes/0708/20th%20Century_Upshaw.html#4
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071026015257/http://romanos.mikistheodorakis.gr/work/work_en.htm to http://romanos.mikistheodorakis.gr/work/work_en.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090106130748/http://garcia-lorca.org/ to http://www.garcia-lorca.org/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120205223558/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/garcialorca_f.html to http://www.glbtq.com/literature/garcialorca_f.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:14, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Federico García Lorca. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110727091330/http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/rmcd/9780415362436/lorca.asp to http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/rmcd/9780415362436/lorca.asp
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120225113141/http://www.theleader.info/article/20640/spain/costa-del-sol/lorcas-grave-first-bones-found/ to http://www.theleader.info/article/20640/spain/costa-del-sol/lorcas-grave-first-bones-found/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090906095246/http://www.johnsiddique.co.uk/Books/Northern%20Soul.html to http://www.johnsiddique.co.uk/Books/Northern%20Soul.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120220043248/http://www.mikis-theodorakis.net/lorca-e1.htm to http://www.mikis-theodorakis.net/lorca-e1.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:03, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Federico García Lorca. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=8337
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120225113141/http://www.theleader.info/article/20640/spain/costa-del-sol/lorcas-grave-first-bones-found/ to http://www.theleader.info/article/20640/spain/costa-del-sol/lorcas-grave-first-bones-found/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090906095246/http://www.johnsiddique.co.uk/Books/Northern%20Soul.html to http://www.johnsiddique.co.uk/Books/Northern%20Soul.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120220043248/http://www.mikis-theodorakis.net/lorca-e1.htm to http://www.mikis-theodorakis.net/lorca-e1.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:27, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I know almost nothing about Lorca, but apparently he has a poem referenced in a popular book. The Lorca poem is "City That Does Not Sleep". Should that be added to the list of poems? It's referenced here:
Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host  (talk) 23:43, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add other works? 

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
* 
Participate in the deletion discussion at the . —Community Tech bot (talk) 22:52, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: Should this article put in that "A Butterfly's Evil Spell" was first produced in Madrid? Vorbee (talk) 08:18, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if you have a good ref you can add. Anna (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: A Butterfly's Evil Spell

message: I thought I heard on In Our Time on July 4 2019 that Lorca knew Salvador Dali, but Dali does not appear mentioned in the article. Vorbee (talk) 08:26, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Dali is already mentioned. Anna (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Salvador Dali