Talk:Megatron (Transformers)

message: I have placed a request in Talk:Galvatron to merger Megatron and Galvatron since these characters are the same even though an evolution of the character has occurred. Please post your reply in the Talk:Galvatron page. Misterrick 00:56, 16 October 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Mergefrom Galvatron

message: Many fans consider this beast version to be a "superior" version of Megatron, because of his unique personality.
POV? --plicease 11:02, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "superior" beast

message: I was reading the article for 2007 Megatron and words dildo,fuck,cum,and ass were used.Can someone fix this because I can't figure out what to replace the vogurness with.
 
For future reference, if you go into the edit history of the page and click up the most recent edit (the vandal's edit) there's an option at the top which says undo. Click on that, then save it as you'd normally do to undo everything that he did automatically. As you're a user, thats one of the priveliges that comes with it.SMegatron 09:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Megatron Pervert mode

message: Just curious, but what are the alternate modes of Super Megatron, Ultra Megatron and Star Giant? I was going to add their alternate modes to the article but I can't seem to find them anywhere? SMegatron 19:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese series modes

message: Do we really need quite so many pictures on this page?  It looks rather cluttered.  Surely we just need one picture showing each of his different incarnations? --  JediLofty User | Talk 14:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By which I mean one picture per incarnation of course! --  JediLofty User | Talk 14:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I had ONE picture of his Action Master incarnation, and you keep removing it. user:mathewignash
To be honest, I think it looks okay as is. A quick glance over the article indicates most of the pictures that aren't just "Megatron in his whatever incarnation" aern't extraneous. A lot of them are more detailing intersting stuff about Megs the casual fan might not know  like the schematic of Megatron's design or how he originally looked in the animated series. Ohters, like his Dreamwave War Within design or the Ratchet/Megs hybrid detial important events in that version of the character's fictional history. I will admit the toy section is maybe overdoing though. Still, most of the different toys are of interest to someone. Regards.SMegatron 20:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Fair use added. SkierRMH 07:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some users complained about the "fair use" of box art, and most of it has been systematically removed. Their claim is that is is replaceable with a picture of the actual toy. I tried to argue that the original box art isn't always like the toy, and they are unique, but I was overruled. Additionally they are getting very strict about using the exact correct licensing of images on wikipedia, and if something isn't 100% correct, it gets deleted, and few people seem willing to help you learn how to do it correctly, so perfectly acceptable images get deleted because they don't have proper licensing text on them. Mathewignash 16:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Megatron0000.jpg

message: Please see Talk:Transformers_%28film%29#Optimus_Prime_and_Megatron_as_brothers for a discussion of how, if at all, to address the "brothers" line in the live-action movie. Chime in. --EEMeltonIV 00:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Optimus Prime and Megatron as brothers. 

message: I've protected this article from editing by anonymous and new users to prevent vandalism. Any questions please don't hesitate to give me a shout. Khukri 07:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: Why was the image for the 2007 Movie Megatron changed to that of an unused, and therefore inaccurate early version of him? --Sauron18 04:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 Movie Megatron Image

message: Ok, considering this has a suggested 'rewrite' tag, and the character is very much in the public eye at the moment, I say we begin at the beginning (as Julie Andrews says...)
"Megatron is a fictional character from the Transformers universe. Megatron was originally portrayed in film and on television by the voice of Frank Welker. The character is of such popularity and significance that he has undergone many revisions and reincarnations in an attempt to reconcile various continuities; however, Megatron has remained pivotal character across the various media in which the universe is portrayed. Megatron is invariably the chief villain, most recognisably as the leader of the Decepticons. In his most common appearance, he is a heavily built grey robot, pitted against his Autobot nemesis, Optimus Prime."
Failing suggestions, I'll place this or something like in the opening paragraph in the next day or so. Including links, obviously. Mark J. Shea 16:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening Paragraph

message: I added info on the Delete Scene from the Beast Wars finale where G1 Megatron's spark is returned from Beast Wars Megatron.
I couldn't find any information anywhere on how to find it on the DVD, so I finally discovered it on my own. --Flib 21:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Scene 

message: What the hell. Backsigns 18:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Admitidly it's an article about 3 characters named Megatron. Maybe the second largest one, 2007 movie Megatron, should be given his own page to inhabit. Mathewignash 20:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is WAY TOO LONG 

message: Does anybody know that Megatron might be returning in the sequel?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.117.112 (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry Mr/Mrs/Miss IP User... this Talk page is for discussing the article, not the films.  For what it's worth, the writers haven't even been confirmed, so it's far too early to be asking about which characters will be in the next film. --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 15:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Returning in Transformers 2 

message: Should we add in the Transformers: Animated part that his head resembles the movie incarnation? Because it does.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.152.186 (talk) 13:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie-Related Question 

message: Is megatrons name in any way related to the angel Metatron for angeology?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.170.135 (talk) 10:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, but I somehow doubt it.  In any case, we can't put it in the article as a supposition as that would count as original research, but if you can find any third-party sources suggesting that it was derived from that name, feel free to add it.--  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 10:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

text: According to Bob Budinsky (the guy who made the name up), it's a combination of Megaton and Electron. MEGAton + elecTRON = Megatron. Mathewignash (talk) 20:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metatron? 

message: I noticed that there are no photos of the original toy anymore (copyright issues I assume?) Would it make sense to add a site like http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Decepticon+Megatron to the external links?  toybin.org follows all of the guildlines on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:External_links#Fan_sites.3F (they own the images, is not a wiki, or blog, just a transformer site)
Icefox (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 21:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Toy photos 

message: I have noticed that the picture uploaded is not the appearance of megatron in the show .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bongzoe (talk • contribs) 14:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animated Megatron 

message: The current infobox for "G1 Megatron" currently icnludes Megatron from, Generation 1, Generation 2, Beast Wars, Robot Masters, Titanium, Classics, Attacktix AND Transformers: Universe. We put these 8 different series together already because they are basically different incarnations of the SAME CHARACTER. Any other Megatrons who have different infoboxes are essentially different characters who share a name, but not the same Megatron. They need their own infoboxes. That said the Megatron infobox on this page should be within the section about THIS character. If we add more characters to this page they should get their own infoboxes. Mathewignash (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox merge

message: Since this page has a disambig link on the top, having a large section listing other uses of Megatron is redundant. If you are looking for other Megatrons look to the disambig. Mathewignash (talk) 10:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplicate info on other Megatrons

message: Should the main Megatron page be a disambig page and G1 info placed on a seperate page? Perhaps put the character info on Megatron (Transformers)? Or should we just have all the disambig info on the top of this page and the G1 character info below it? Mathewignash (talk) 10:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambig page

message: I feel it is unnecessary that this character has a separate articles for  Megatron (other incarnations). It is full of fancruft, badly sourced fansites and plot summary it would be better to for them to be redirected to the main article as it's about the same character and there is innsufficent independent information that the different incarnations are  notable or distinct enough to have their own article. Dwanyewest (talk) 05:27, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, but at least half of that content is trivia and plot summary that could be discarded.  70k is fine. Black Kite (t) (c) 20:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Oppose - The characters, while sharing a name, are very different characters, each is noteworthy and deserves an article. Mathewignash (talk) 20:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned at Wikiproject Transformers the argument which has often been made that multiple incarnations can't exist on a single TF character on  one page. Because it is unwieldy or confusing to the reader is intellectually dishonesty. The nearest comparison would be to a Toy based character with multiple incarnations would be GI Joe. Look at the likes of Snake Eyes (G.I. Joe),Hawk (G.I. Joe),Scarlett (G.I. Joe) they have multiple descriptions of each incarnation of their characters and still manage write about the toys with sprawling checklists and still readable and they are much better written and sources than many of the TF articles. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you apply this logic to Megatron from Robots in Disguise, who was called Gigatron in Japan, and wasn't even supposed to be Megatron except that the Hasbro people decided to reuse the name they already owned the Trademark for? He's not even a Megatron except in the English dub. Mathewignash (talk) 16:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Strong support per same rationale as Talk:Optimus Prime (Transformers)#Merger proposal for Optimus Prime (except here there may be a reason to keep a disambiguation page).--137.122.49.102 (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal for Megatron 

message: Although Megatron is not said to be a Prime in the movies, I believe he is. In the second movie, The Fallen says only a Prime can defeat him, wanting Optimus Prime killed. Megatron has succesfully engaged Optimus in battle in both movies. In the first movie, Megatron beats Optimus badly enough that he is assured victory until killed by the All-Spark. In the second movie Megatron destroys Optimus' spark. 
Further proof is that the Fallen is a Prime, but stops calling himself that once he founds the decepticons. Megatron is a Prime, but would have stopped calling himself that once he became a decepticon, the name Prime being an Autobot title, and Megatron seeing it as beneath him. 
Since the movies depart from continuity of the animated series and the comics Megatron could be a Prime in the movies, even if he isn't in the other media. --Preator1 (talk) 01:38, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because "only a Prime can defeat the Fallen" doesn't mean only a Prime can defeat Optimus. Mathewignash (talk) 11:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Megatron a Prime

message: It is apparent that several editors are rapidly approaching the 3RR criteria due to a dispute on content. Also the article was getting very big based on a huge amount of unsourced material. I have gone back to a "reasonable" version and applied protection to stop the war. The editors are now asked to discuss the potential edits here, and come to a consensus of what should be added/removed when the protection expires in a week. I would not expect to see any editprotected templates being applied to speed up the editing.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content Dispute