Talk:Tikar people

message: You're population is not accurate JoBean906 (talk) 23:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population inaccurate 

message: Was this paragraph vetted by anyone? Looks like racism/smearing... unedited. No Cap or Period at end.
"there's no other groups call tikar and bamum people bafia people are scientifically and traditionally known to be tikar descendants but some African Americans try to change history sciences and facts to claim what they aren't based on nothing but lies "
I will remove...
Msjayhawk (talk) 16:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabotage Paragraph?? 

message: Information on Haplogroup L1 *was removed. The reason given was "The source on the Sudan doesn't and it doesn't state that Bantus or Tikar were in the Sudan." However, this wasn't at all stated in the content removed. The source states that Haplogroup L1 was found in an ancient Nubia cemetery in 70% of the specimens. As the Tikar are the only ethnic group with Haplogroup L1 observed at 100%, this genetic evidence is very relevant to their migrations. The source does not say the Tikar were in Sudan, but it concludes that their Haplogroup was (a fact that was previously thought to be false). I do not currently see the reason as to why these findings should not be mentioned. GuinanTheListener (talk) 16:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not all the information on L1 was removed. The material/source stating that L1 ia common in the Tikar (and other Central Africans) was kept, because it was clearly relevant. The other source, on the Sudanese genetic study, never mentions the Tikar. Therefore including it is not supported according to Wikipedia policy. The reason you have given above for its relevance is your own personal opinion/own analysis. As mentioned, adding content based on your own reasoning is WP:OR (also see WP:SYNTH, a type of OR, i.e. combining two or more sources based on your own reasoning). There is nothing in either source that states (again, it must be explicit) that the Tikar have or must have a connection to the Sudan (and, not only is L1 found in many ethnic groups in Africa, but there are many branches of it - L1 is very ancient). The relevance to the topic/connection must be must be explicitly stated in the source, and it is not in this case. Skllagyook (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually agree that it violates the WP:SYNTH policy. I can see now how it does. GuinanTheListener (talk) 01:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haplogroup L1 Genetics 

message: The Tikar originated from the Mboum. Belaka Nya Sana was the first ruler of the Mboum. The name Tikar comes from "Tinkala Dje" in the Mboum language which means "Go out" or "Those who wonder".
It is unacceotably anachronistic to confuse Belaka Nya Sana of the Mboum with the first fons of Tikar. The former is the ancestor of the latter. Scholar editor 477 (talk) 08:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tikar originated from the Mboum 

message: The relationship of the Tikari and Herero with other populations is complex. They could be modeled as having 23% ancestry related to an archaic population that diverged prior to the divergence of all modern human populations (possibly reflecting introgression from an archaic population into modern populations) and 77% ancestry from a population related to the Nilo-Saharan-speaking Mursi. A similar pattern was observed in the ADMIXTURE analyses at K = 7 to 11 but with much lower inferred Nilo-Saharan-related ancestries in the Tikari and Herero (Figure S2). The TreeMix analyses showed evidence of gene flow between the Mursi and the ancestors of the Tikari and Herero starting at 5 migration events (Figure S3F). The results indicating archaic introgression in a population ancestral to the Bantu-speaking lineage are consistent with previous studies based on ancient African samples which suggested that the West African Niger-Congo-speaking populations carry lineages ancestral to all modern human lineages. 11 However, time-resolved demographic history models inferred using alternate methods (described below) suggest that the ancestors of San and RHG may have been the first to split from other modern human lineages. 71.176.234.179 (talk) 20:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This information should be added to the Wikipedia page regarding the history of the Tikar people 71.176.234.179 (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tikar people share ancestry with the Mursi people  

message: can someone please include a representative image on the infobox? @MiddleOfAfrica and @Skllagyook might have a good idea about this FuzzyMagma (talk) 08:58, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been on the hunt for some images of the Tikar people in the public domain, but most I've found have been copyright-protected. It does look like one has been added to Wikimedia Commons that I missed. I'll update the infobox and get feedback. MiddleOfAfrica (talk) 02:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Have a look here, maybe it will help FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image