Talk:Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin

message: why doesn't this article have a discussion? there is absolutely no discussion about this article -- i am sorely disappointed. παράδοξος Wikipedia might reveal truths παράδοξος 04:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of discussion 

message: I want to know more about the Orange Tree, especially after seeing The Illusionist. Gautam  10:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You might want to try this page: http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/automatons-music-boxes/robert-houdin-automatons.php . There's a paragraph about the Orange Tree. Onaryc 01:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on Orange Tree 

message: This article isn't very clear about what R-H was supposed to do in Algeria. Was he sent there to impress the arabs by showing that he was a powerful magician, more powerful that the local mullahs, and so help the french government scare the Arabs into submission, or was he supposed to expose the mullahs by showing the Arabs that the mullahs had no real magical powers and it was all about tricks that anybody could perform, even a european? The french Wikipedia article is very clear that it is the latter, the english article is not. (Another difference is, in the french article, it is not mullahs that R-H was asked to expose, but marabouts). Found in one of R-H's books on line: "The blow was struck: henceforth the interpreters and all those who had dealings with the Arabs received orders to make them understand that my pretended miracles were only the result of skill, inspired and guided by an art called prestidigitation, in no way connected with sorcery. The Arabs doubtless yielded to these arguments, for henceforth I was on the most friendly terms with them."
 Onaryc 11:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robert-Houdin and the Arabs 

message: The lead is full of crap. "Conjuring" isn't real, so "the father of the modern style of conjuring" is a nonsensical statement. It's like saying that I'm the "father of the modern style of levitation" or that your mom is the "mother of the modern style of teleportation". — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 08:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense 

message: Since this is an article about conjuring, what else would like to call it?  Of course he is no more a magician than Robert Downey Jr. is Sherlock Holmes.  But, since that was the role of his last movie, you have to call it what it is.  The same in magic.  Of course it's just pretend, but that's part of the art of magic.  You don't refer it to conjuring or magic, then people won't know what you are talking about. 
mtpascoe12:01 24 March 2010 {PST}  —Preceding undated comment added 07:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What else do you want to call it? 

message: In part, some small sections.  Those portions are an interpretation.   7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: French translation

message: It seems that the people who wrote the page has failed to read Houdini's biography about him. Now, despite the fact that it's used as a reference in the article, it turns out that the book is actually an exposé about the fact that Robert-Houdin was a total fraud, and how all of his illusions, from the Orange Tree to the mini Bakery, were all stolen from other magicians. This information would seem to be pretty important, and potentially throws his entire legacy out the window! This is something that should be discussed for this page. Obviously I don't want to suggest it needs to be rewritten, but I strongly urge people to actually read Houdini's discovery about his "hero". I think the man who named himself after him might be on to something.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by DullJake (talk • contribs) 02:14, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing Controversy

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