Talk:The Spider and the Fly (poem)

message: 74.60.29.141 (talk) 23:45, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

message: Date of publication came from this page.  Also, since the poem is out of copyright, is it permitted to reproduce it in whole here? -- Raj 12:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: probably. Anywyay, its a bit late now, its been up for almost a year and no ones done anything about it :) The Dark Lord Trombonator (((¶))) 09:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but that doesn't make this a good article.  This isn't wikisource.  A text dump does not an article make. Quale 17:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: According to Martin Gardner's Annotated Alice, Lewis Carroll requested that his parody should be sung to the same tune as the original. But what tune was he referring to? Is there one particular tune that's associated with the poem, and who wrote it and when? 2.25.141.2 (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tune? 

message: This edit caught my eye. The edit summary says, Text: Reverted the poem's text to that of the source. There were simply too much changes and vandalism, plus some novel additions that could easily be copyright protected. We need a source verify its copyright protection status.
Looking at the Text section. which the edit modified, I see that it purports to quote the text of the poem, without support and from some source which is unidentified there. Please see WP:V: "All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material." I see that the External links section of the article includes a link which it presents as "Text of the poem", and I note that the link points to a web page on this website, which identifies itself as "my name is Weed - i live in England - this is my homepage". Please see WP:IRS. 
I'm not into poetry, but perhaps someone over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poetry could help out. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support and attribution needed 

message: I happened to see this edit, which reverted an unsupported change of "pretty maidens" to "sweet children" back to what it had previously been. However, I noticed that the reverted-to "pretty maidens" version in the quoted text of the piece which begins this article is likewise unsupported. I googled for a supporting source and couldn't find a source which I could verify online (I did come up with this in Wikisource, but no support is cited there either). Among other things I came up with are  and . However, those sources do not support either version; the first says "young maidens" and the second does not have the lines containing the differing bit. I'm guessing that the 1911 source, in particular, might be of interest but it looks to me as if this needs attention from someone who knows more about this topic than I. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:02, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: {update) This edit to the  tag in the article, the addition of which is documented here, caught my eye. Looking at the current version of the article vs. this September 7, 2019 version which prompted addition of the tag, it appears to me that the problem has been resolved. Since I added the tag, I'm now removing it. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert attention needed