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message: Did Charmed season 8 show in America? in Malta it didn't-Kathleen Parsons Malta
I don't know that Paige can heal.  Can anybody confirm/correct this? --Barry 18:43, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
:IIRC she has done so on at least one occasion, she is half-whitelighter after all. Elde 03:49, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: IIRC she healed Sam, and on another occasion healed with Leo's support.  Since the TNT re-runs are currently in that general area I'll keep my eyes open. Elde 02:14, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Warren, I'm willing to research and help fix it, but I gotta know what you're talking about.  Can you point out a last revision date that has the accurate info?--Barry 16:32, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)
What happened to the baby Phoebe was carrying with Cole? I never saw the episode that directly followed Cole being vanquished and Pheobe moving back into the manor. Thanks, Kristin 02/25/05 2150
The episode after Phoebe vanquishes Cole as the Source is called Womb Raider, and The Seer steals Phoebe's baby, transferring it from Phoebe's womb to her own, only to find that it is too powerful for her body to handle, so the baby self-destructs in The Seer's body, vanquishing itself, The Seer, and a bunch of other upper-level demons in the room.
I am very disappointed I cannot watch season 8 and perhaps the last.  CTV refused to pick up the new season.  I sent an email to Space but so far they haven't announced Charmed premiering yet.  It looks like will just have to abandon tv and get the dvd of the series and others.--Tjkphilosofe 08:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: I do not care to read 100 articles instead of one. Some or all of this belongs in the charmed article.
=== Mortals ===
Victor Bennett - The father of Prue, Piper, and Phoebe.
Andy Trudeau - The former inspector of SFPD. Andy worked as an inspector for the San Francisco Police Department and he coincidentally was assigned to almost every police case that involved the Halliwell sisters. He was in love with Pru, but because she wouldn't tell him her secret, they broke up. Eventually, Andy discovered the sisters' secret, and once he discovered that they were responsible for saving so many people's lives he risked his career and ultimately sacrificed his life to protect them.
Mark Chao - A human who was killed and became a ghost. He fell in love with Piper Halliwell.
Dream Sorcerer - A mortal who used dream technology to enter the dreams of the women who scorned him and kill them in their dreams.
Dan Gordon - The mortal neighbor who was attracted to Piper Halliwell. He, and his niece, Jenny, lived right beside the Halliwell Sisters. He used to play third base for the Seattle Mariners baseball team until he blew out his knee sliding home, but he worked in construction when he lived next to the sisters. While Dan never discovered the sisters' secret, he noticed the oddity of the girls' lives and often suspected that they were hiding something. When Piper and Leo's relationship hit a rough spot, Piper began to realize the trials and tribulations of being involved with Leo. When Piper felt attracted to Dan, she decided to date him instead of Leo because the relationship seemed much less complicated. However, Piper's sudden disappearances and avoidance of his questions drove Dan crazy and made him feel insecure in their relationship. He also always felt threatened by Leo because even though Piper did not see him often he knew that they had been serious and that Piper still cared for him. Dan seemed to feel as though he was simply "geographically desirable" and that fact was the basis of his and Piper's entire relationship. Piper finally broke up with Dan after she realized that even though she loved Dan, she loved Leo more. Dan also became very suspicious of Leo and even asked his brother who worked for the state department to check Leo's army records. When his brother discovered that Leo had been a soldier in World War II and had died in the war, Dan presented the information to Leo -- they then proceeded to beat the crap out of each other -- and finally to Piper. Dan moved away to Portland when he was offered a job there, deciding that it was time for him to move on with his life. 
Jen Gordon - The mortal niece of Dan Gordon. A friend to the Halliwell Sisters, she was known to come to them of female advice when she was too embarrassed to talk to Dan.
=== Witches ===
Aviva - Aviva is a practical witch who was granted the power of heat and fire. By Kali's guidance, she had gained the trust of Phoebe Halliwell, the third of the Charmed Ones, and wanted to become a Charmed One. However, because of Prue's distrust in her, she tried to get rid of her but failed. Kali had possessed Aviva and turned her against the Charmed Ones. She was later freed and became a friend of the Charmed Ones.
Max - Max is a male witch with the power of psychokinesis. He can move things with his mind without having to see it. He was kidnapped by murderous thieves so they could use him to help them break into vaults in banks.
Melinda Warren - The beginning of Warren/Halliwell magic, Melinda Warren was born in Virginia, but later moved to Salem, Massachusetts. She possessed all three of the Charmed Ones powers: telekinesis, premonitions, and temporal stasis. She was tricked by a warlock named Matthew Tate who copied her powers and then turned her in to the witch-hunters. Melinda managed to curse Matthew into a locket, but she was burned at the stake in the Salem witch trials. She was summoned to the twentieth century by her descendants, the Charmed Ones, to help return Matthew Tate back into the locket. She succeeded and returned to the spirit world.
Wyatt Matthew Halliwell - Piper and Leo's new son, Wyatt, is the newest addition to the Halliwell manor. A prophecy foretold of the birth of a twice-blessed child to be born on a day when three planets aligned on a Wiccan sabbat during the Aurora Borealis and magic would be removed from the world. When Evil discovered the prophecy, they plotted to steal Wyatt, who was destined to be powerful, in order to make him a powerful force for Evil. Fortunately, the sisters managed to keep the baby from falling into the demons' hands. Even though Piper and Leo knew that their child would be very powerful, both were surprised at the reaction to the baby from the demonic community. When two demons offered bounty for Wyatt, the sisters eventually went on the offensive and killed as many demons as possible in order to send a message that demons should not try to harm the baby. To their surprise, a prophetic demon called a Crone informed them that a law would be passed to prevent any further attempts to harm the baby because a war over the child would be detrimental rather than beneficial to evil. While Piper believed the Crone to an extent, the idea that her child had caused such fear in the demonic community troubled her somewhat. When it came time to name him, Piper and Leo encountered difficulties because throughout Piper's pregnancy they had both assumed that she was having a girl. Leo agreed with Piper that the baby's last name should be Halliwell because of the name's magical significance. Piper eventually thought of the idea of giving him the first name of Wyatt to honor Leo and the middle name of Matthew to honor Paige, after she risked her life to save her nephew from bounty hunters. Wyatt has been coming very quickly into his powers and the sisters have received an impressions of his full capabilities when he grows older. He created a dragon, which caused a group of magical beings called the Cleaners to try to take him away from Piper, but she managed to persuade them to leave Wyatt with her. He is also the being destined to wield the powerful sword Excalibur, but Piper is trying to keep him away from the sword until he is older.
Grams - After their mother's death, Penny—more fondly known as Grams—raised Piper, Prue and Phoebe after their mothers death. Like Prue, Grams had the power of telekinesis and was very skilled at her craft. She credits herself with writing all of the "good" spells in the Book of Shadows. Grams was responsible for binding the sisters' powers when they were children after their mother was tricked by a warlock who exchanged Patty's life for immunity against the sisters' powers. When she died of a heart condition, her death was what triggered the sisters' powers being unbound, leading them to discover their destiny.
Patty Halliwell - Mother of the Charmed Ones, Patty, like Piper, had the power to freeze. When her relationship with her husband, Victor, ended badly because of disagreements about magic, Patty had a forbidden affair with her Whitelighter, Sam, which resulted in Paige being born. Patty died an early death fighting a water demon.
Kevin - Kevin is a young witch with the ability to make drawings or thoughts come to life. He was chosen to be an Elder.
P. Russell - This Warren ancestor—Phoebe's soul in a past life—lived during the twenties, operating a small business selling love potions and telling futures at a speakeasy she owned with her two cousins, and her power was throwing fire. A powerful warlock named Anton seduced her and convinced her to help him kill her cousins so that he might obtain their powers. Her cousins learned of their plan and killed her, but not before cursing her so that she and Anton, who was immortal, would never join forces in any lifetime.
P. Baxter - One of Piper's past lives, this witch also had a similar power: she could slow time, but not stop it. She owned a speakeasy in the twenties with her cousins, taking responsibility for obtaining the liquor for the establishment. Her husband also worked in the speakeasy, playing piano. 
P. Bowen - This witch had the power to freeze, literally, and was one of Prue's past lives. During the twenties, she ran a speakeasy with her cousins and was a photographer. 
Tuatha - Tuatha was a former good witch that used dark magic to become evil. She was released and killed five humans. She used her serpent to find her lost wand that was in the hands of the CHarmed Ones. Kyle, the chosen one, used her wand to destroy Tuatha.
=== Warlocks & Demons ===
Warlocks - Warlocks are evil magical humans who have the ability of absorption. Their only drive is to kill a witch and gain the witch's power. Warlocks are those that break the Wiccan rede.
Jeremy Burns - A warlock who dated Piper and tried to get close to her to steal her powers. His known power is absorption.
Rex Buckland and Hannah Webster - These two demonic warlocks are humanly agents of the Source of All Evil. They assumed identities of two workers of Buckland's Auction House and managed to watch over the activities of the Charmed Ones. Assigned to steal their powers, these two sent other lower agents to attack and destroy the Charmed Ones. Rex has the ability of astral projection, mental suggestion, illusionist, and limited telepathy.
Matthew Tate - A 17th century warlock who has the ability to 'copy' the power of a good witch when it is used on him. After he has copied a power, it cannot be used against him. He betrayed the Halliwell's ancestor Melinda Warren to the Salem witchhunters, and because the warlock had stolen her love, she cursed him into the pewter heart (locket) where he would spend eternity knowing the sting of betrayal. The legend says that the warlock must never be freed, as he will destroy the Warren line.
Barbas - Barbas, the demon of fear, appears once every thirteen hundred years on Friday the thirteenth. He feeds on young witches for his survival. Entrapped in the Underworld, Barbas must kill thirteen unmarried witches before midnight so that he might be freed to wreak his havoc every day. He kills witches by making their worst fears come to pass and literally scaring them to death. Prue managed to defeat him by conquering her fear.While in Purgatory, Barbas gained the ability to astral project and used his new ability to plant thoughts in Cole's mind, making him fear his new powers. Eventually he managed to fuel Cole's fear enough that Cole stripped his powers and Barbas absorbed them, allowing Barbas to emerge from Purgatory permanently.
Woogy Man - A demonic fog that turns humans evil. For a witch, he gives them the power of materialization.The Woogyman is a demon in shadow form that has the power to possess his victims and infect them with evil. The Woogy seeks control of the nexus on which the manor sits, wanting to spread evil by gaining its power. Entombed in the earth below the manor, the demon is released during earthquakes.
Nicholas - Originally planning to kill the girls' mother, Patty, and steal her powers, a warlock named Nicholas inadvertently stumbled upon the fact that Patty was going to be the mother of the Charmed Ones. Nicholas tricked Patty and captured her, forcing her to bless a ring to give him immunity to the sisters' powers so that he might kill them without a fight. Patty then told her mother of what had happened, so Grams stripped the powers from the girls once Phoebe was born in order to protect them until she could undo the bond Patty had made with Nicholas. When Nicholas realized that the girls did not have their powers anymore, he devised a plan. He visited the manor the same day each year at the same time, waiting for the year when the sisters received their powers again. Nicholas possesses a very deadly power that he channels through his hands: overheating a person's blood until they die.
Grimlocks - Grimlocks are white demons with whirling red eyes. Underground demons, grimlocks roam from city to city killing powerful forces of good by seeing the unique auras that surround them, which they are able to do by stealing the eysight of innocent children. The stolen eyesight will last twenty-four hours, but only if the children are alive. After the children's eyesight has waned, the grimlocks consume them.To destroy a grimlock, gather a shisandra root and make a potion from it with which to blind the grimlock.
Tempus - The Devil's Sorcerer, Tempus is the manipulator of time, serving only his will always, always for evil's gain. To defeat Tempus, remove him from the time that he is in.
Rodriguez - This demon was sent to find and destroy the Charmed Ones and has the power to throw energy balls. He posed as an inspector in the San Francisco Police Department and tried to exploit Andy to get to the sisters. 
Abraxas - A demon of the astral plane who destroys witches by demonizing their powers. He does this by transferring the witch's Book of Shadows to a parallel plane and then reads it backwards, undoing the magic they have done until he reaches the first page of the Book and removes the witch's powers and obtains them for himself.
Ardo Malorum - Commanding the demonic legions, these generals lead the war against the forces of good. To ascend in the unholy hierarchy they must capture and conquer those witches who protect the innocent and value good. The servants of these generals (also known as level two demons) can be identified by the weapons which they carry.
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - Hand picked by the Source, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are the "Anointed Ones" and bear the mark of the omega, the end. War, Strife, Famine and Death each use their special powers for spreading loss and death in order to lead to the eventual destruction of the world. The horsemen are immune to all magic and only the Source can vanquish them. When a team of horsemen fails, the Source destroys them and picks a new team. 
Triad - The Triad is a high-ranking group of demons who are responsible for organizing attacks on specific individuals. Usually, they assign lower-level demons to do the work for them. 
Belthazor - Belthazor is the demonic side of Cole Turner. Both powerful and dangerous, this demonic Soldier of Fortune has destroyed countless witches, innocents and demons. As sinister as he is intelligent, he is not to be trusted. Belthazor's known abilities include throwing energy balls and shimmering place to place as well as a weak form of telekenesis and conjuring. Belthazor has a human form and, unlike most demons, he has a soul, which makes him a more powerful enemy because he understands humans better than most demons. His powers were stripped in early season 4. So he did not rule the underworld after the source was killed.
Bounty Hunters - Driven by greed, these heartless, low-level demons will stop at nothing to collect their bounty. They have the power to fire energy balls and/or lightning bolts and can materialize at will. Bounty hunters track down fugitive demons, but if the price is right they will go after anyone.
Brotherhood of the Thorn - The Brotherhood of the Thorn is a very exclusive niche of the demonic community. The members are handpicked by the Source and must take a blood oath upon admittance. 
Darklighters - Darklighters are evil counterparts to whitelighters, and have similar orbing capabilities. They also possess the only means of killing whitelighters: crossbows that fire arrows tipped in a poison that is fatal to whitelighters. Different types of darklighters exist. One form attempts to spread evil through propagation by seducing young women and impregnating them with evil spawn. One form, known as spirit killers, track future whitelighters. By reading their thoughts and fears, the darklighters make these individuals feel responsible for everything unfortunate that may happen to a friend or loved one, driving them into despair and encouraging them to take their own life. By committing suicide, the individual is denied his or her future as a whitelighter after death. A Tracker is a breed of darklighter that targets whitelighters on the verge of losing their wings. Trackers' poisoned arrows are more potent and kill more quickly.
Evil Enchantress - This powerful enchantress lived many centuries ago and could control the elements. Defiant, clever and independent, she came into the craft late in life but learned to use it quickly. Using her dark magic, the enchantress cast a love spell on an unsuspecting prince in effort to trick the prince into marrying her so that she may rule his kingdom. 
Source - The Source is the highest-ranking demon in the Underworld. He receives his powers through a coronation and is granted dominion over all demons in the Underworld. In order to remind his minions of his power and reach, all of them have the ability to sense him. The extent of his powers is unknown, but they are seemingly limitless.
Shax - The Source's personal assassin, Shax is a dangerous enemy. He has the ability to travel as a strong gust of wind. He kills his victims with very powerful energy blasts.
Seer - An upper-level demon, the Seer has been around for thousands of years. Because she has the power to see the future, she has gained great respect in the Underworld. In fact, she has served multiple Sources, all the while seeking the opportunity to gain ultimate power.
Necron - A skeletal being who hovers between life and death, Necron has the ability to incinerate any creature and feed on their life force. Be careful when pursuing him; the only two witches able to vanquish a skeletal being were incinerated in the process.
Bacarra - This warlock traveled back from the future and teamed up with his present self to use his knowledge of future magic to steal the Halliwells' Book of Shadows in order to rule the Underworld.
Cronyn - A sorceror, Cronyn learned of a prophecy from his mentor of a twice-blessed child that would be born on a special day when all magic would cease to exist in the world. He came to realize that Piper was carrying this twice-blessed child, and with the help of a female demon who called herseld Doris, he managed to isolate Piper while she was in labor, hoping to kidnap the child and raise it to be a powerful force for evil.
Crone - The Crone is a well known and respected advisor of evil whose ability to forsee the future makes her valuable. Heard of more than some she is an upper level demon who possesses upper level demonic powers. A upper level demonic vanquishing spell will kill her. 
Stillman Sisters - Mabel, Mitzy and Margo. Common witches known for their small time hustles and cons. Not worth vanquishing. If they become a nuisance, try a simple spell to bind their magic. 
Spider Demon - An evil creature that emerges from its hidden lair every hundred years to capture and feed off the most powerful magical being it can detect. This demon can spin webs, change from human to spider form at will, and infect its victims with a venom that turns them into spider demons as well.
=== Beings of Light ===
Brendan Rowe - Brendan is a half warlock and half mortal being. Resisting the evil Rowe Coven, he attempts to become a good warlock or become a priest. He became an ally of the Charmed Ones.
Charmed Ones - The Charmed Ones are witches of the Warren/Halliwell line that are destined to be good white witches, that would save the innocent and vanquish the evil; as in demons and warlocks.
Cupid - These messengers are responsible for bringing people together who have a chance at love. Many agents roam about the world using their powers to connect people. Their powers lie in a ring, which allows them to slow time and get between heartbeats where they can then plant thoughts of love. These beings are not responsible for all love, however. They are forbidden to make some connections, yet sometimes people manage to make such connections without any aid.
Elders - Elders are high whitelighters that govern all good magical beings. The Elders select future whitelighters and provide information and guidance to current ones. While whitelighters are supposed to help others, they follow a strict set of rules in doing so. The Elders take responsibility for ensuring that whitelighters follow these rules. When an Elder retires, he must pass his powers to another being, who then replaces him. An Elder can only pass on his powers at certain times, such as the equinoxes. 
Familiars - Familiars are enchanted creatures that follow and guide new witches to protect them while they learn the craft. While they are often cats, other animals like dogs, rabbits, horses and snakes can be familiars as well. Familiars are naturally attuned to the seasons and phases of the moon and can be helpful in teaching the young witch a heightened awareness of her environment. Familiars who perform their job especially well are sometimes rewarded by being turned into humans, whose responsibility then becomes to take care of other familiars. However, a familiar may also betray its witch and become a warlock.
Gypsies - A cousin tradition to witchcraft, gypsies share many similarities with witches. While most gypsies do not have active powers, they perform spells and use potions. High priestesses of the gypsy tradition are called shuvanis, and they pool their power to ward off evil.
Kyle - Kyle is a young teen who was chosen as he was the seventh son of the seventh son. He was destined to help the Charmed Ones destroy Tuatha. He used Tuatha's wand to destroy her.
Leprechauns - Leprechauns hand out Luck, in the form of magical gold. They hand out both good and bad luck but are good creatures - bad luck helps people as much as good luck does. One helped free Paige when she was petryfied by a Titan.
Whitelighters - A person that does a great deal of good during his life may become a whitelighter after death. Whitelighters are sort of angelic creatures that watch over good people, both mortals and witches, and try to keep them from coming to harm. Whitelighters have the power to heal, hover and can travel by orbing. While whitelighters eat, sleep, and otherwise function like regular human beings, they cannot be mortally wounded. These wounds will magically heal themselves. The only way that a whitelighter may be killed is by a darklighter's arrow, which is tipped in a poison made specifically for that purpose. While the Elders can track whitelighters, if a whitelighter chooses to stop using his powers the Elder will be unable to track him. If a whitelighter is trying to disappear, only a blood relative can locate him again. If he chooses not to use his powers for a long period of time and the Elders can find no other way to locate him, eventually he will lose his whitelighter abilities.
=== Magical Beings ===
Angel of Death - The Angel of Death is a being that is neither good nor evil and has the responsibility of collecting souls and carrying them into the afterlife. Death is not something that can be fought or stopped — the Angel of Death never gives up on a claim.
 
Angels of Destiny - Angels of Destiny are beings with tremendous amounts of power. They can halt time as well as alter reality. They rarely directly intervene in anyone's destiny, except in extraordinary circumstances.  
The Avatars - Very little is known about these creatures. They are extremely powerful beings that exist outside of time and space, and they do not conform to either good or evil.
 
Cleaners - These beings are responsible for protecting magic. If magic, good or evil, becomes exposed, the Cleaners are responsible for covering up the exposure, cleaning up the mess and erasing memories of the event when needed.  
Elves - Elves are small magical creatures that have innate childcaring skills, which their powers reflect.
 
Fairies and Trolls - Fairies and trolls are mystical creatures that live in a realm parallel to ours but separated by a thin veil. The veil becomes lifted in "tween" places, such as doorways or shadows. At midnight, the time between night and day the entire world becomes a "tween". In their realm, the fairies have dominion over the trolls, which the trolls greatly dislike. Fairies have a magical dust with which they can do many things, including turning people into fairies. Trolls have the ability to move very quickly.
 
Fairy Tales - Even though fairy tales are considered to be merely fictional fables intended to instruct small children, most fairy tales are recountings of ancient battles between good and evil that have been woven into allegorical stories. All modern copies of fairy tales are copies of an original, kept safe from evil by the Keeper of the Fairy Tales who was entrusted with the text centuries ago. The book as well as relics from which all power of fairy tales emanate are hidden in a remote magical fortress, whose location is kept secret from everyone, including the Elders.
 
The Firestarter - An extremely rare and coveted magical creature, usually a mortal, the power is linked to their emotions. It first manifests in adolescence with the onset of puberty. If subjugated while still impressionable they can be persuaded to use their powers for evil. Because of this, they are often trained to be bodyguards to the Source.  
Gideon - One of the most powerful Elders, Gideon was entrusted with the position as headmaster of Magic School, an institution where young magical beings can learn about magic. While he originally pushed for the Elders to allow Piper and Leo to get married, once Wyatt was born, Gideon's attitude toward the couple changed drastically. He feared that all of the power that Wyatt possessed would cause him to turn and become an unstoppable threat. Gaining the sisters' confidence, Gideon used his position as a friend of family to get close to Wyatt but first hired a team of darklighters to get Leo out of the way. He conspired with his evil counterpart in a parallel dimension to distract both the good and evil Charmed Ones so that he might kill Wyatt. The sisters realized his plan in time and stopped him, but only temporarily. Conspiring with Barbas who used his powers to distract the sisters and Leo, Gideon managed to kidnap Wyatt, killing Chris in the process. Angered by his son's death, Leo tracked Gideon in the Underworld and killed him.
Ghosts - Ghosts are spirits of the dead who manage to cling in our world because of unfinished business from their life, usually avenging their unjust death. Neophyte ghosts are unable to grasp the physical plane, but in time ghosts can learn to move objects and even become corporeal. Some ghosts even have the ability to possess the living in order to complete the unfinished business from their lifetime.  
Genies - Genies are Magical Beings that have the power to grant humans what they desire. Contained in bottles, genies are released after someone rubs the bottle and then will grant the person who rubbed the bottle three wishes. After granting three wishes, the genie becomes free from his bottle and loses his powers. Beware, genies are tricksters and they will do anything to be freed. While genies are not evil by nature and cannot harm someone unless he wishes for something, the wishes genies grant always come with some unforseen consequence. The only way to get rid of a genie without wishing is to put the genie back into his bottle. Doing this will reverse all of the wishes he granted.  
The Hollow - Thirty-five hundred years ago the Hollow was unleashed on the world. The Hollow is a force that has the power to consume all magical powers, good or evil, and is impossible to destroy. While roaming the earth, the Hollow nearly decimated all magic and all things. Good and evil had to join forces and use their strongest magic just to confine the Hollow. Both sides then chose a representative to guard the burial ground where the Hollow was contained against all magical beings. If the Hollow is unleashed, the only way to stop it from destroying evil is for good and evil to read the inscription on the box in which the Hollow is stored. This act will reconfine the Hollow in its crypt.
Mermaids - Mermaids are immortal beings, half woman half fish, who live in the sea. They are cold-blooded and are fond of shiny baubles. They enjoy the freedom of the ocean, and hear nothing but the call of the sea. If a mortal falls in love with a mermaid and confesses his love to her, then the mermaid becomes mortal.
Mordaunt - A servant to Excalibur, Mordaunt is responsible for training those meant to control the power of the sword.  
Mr. Right - This magical man can be conjured, made to the exact specifications to please the witch who created him. He is tied completely to his witch, feeling what she feels, needs, and wants and only those things.  
Phoenix - Descended from the Witch Trials with vengeance in their hearts, the Phoenix are a family of assassin witches who are very elite and very powerful and who are born with a distinctive birthmark of the Phoenix symbolizing their rise from Salem's ashes. They have no allegiances other than to their own vengeance and they will seek out and kill any bounty they're hired to hunt down. 
The Titans - These God-like beings were very powerful, and lived many centuries ago. Having power over the Earth and its natural forces, soon they became corrupt with power and began abusing the control they held over the earth. In order to stop their tyrannical rule, the Elders imbued some mortals with a tremendous amount of power and they were able to entomb but not defeat the Titans.
Valkyries - A powerful race of demigoddesses who scout the battle grounds for dying warriors, then take their souls to Valhalla where they prepare them for the final world battle.Though fierce in their nature, Valkyries are not evil. They remain secluded in Valhalla and do not attack other beings unless they feel the secret of their location has been threatened. Like witches, they aim to protect the innocent. 
Witch Doctors - Little is known of witch doctors except for their dedication to expel evil sprits from demonic footholds. Using strange unknown magic rituals, witch doctors feel their status as watch dogs of evil gives them the freedom to attack evil in all its shifting guises. While witch doctors are not evil, they are not well-trusted because of their tendency to rely on their own definitions of evil and have used their magic to harm good beings in the past. Witch doctors have the power to place hexes on people using personal objects, turning their current fixations into obsessions, which leads to self-destructive behaviour.
Witches - Magical humans that learn and practice the craft of white magic as they use their abilities to vanquish evil beings.
Wizards - Wizards are another race of magical humans that can use their magical powers to do good or for evil. One wizard had tricked the Charmed Ones to steal the Grimoire.
=== Other Information ===
Athame - An athame is a ceremonial tool, a double-edged knife that witches use to direct energy.
On the Place of Magic In The Rearing of a Child - A child is the frailest and most innocent of all innocents. It is therefore unlawful and unnatural to use magic to change what is in the nature of a child. Before casting a spell that affects a child, the witch must ask herself, "am I doing this for the child or am I doing this for myself?" 
Book of Shadows - The Book of Shadows is a book of many spells, potions, and information about demons and magical beings. It is protected from evil and no evil being can handle it. It is a family heirloom to the Charmed line, and cannot be taken from the Manor by someone who isn't of that line. It is the Good counterpart of the Grimoire.
The Demonic Wasteland - When demons are vanquished, they are sent to the demonic wasteland where their bodies are destroyed and their powers are left to be devoured by the beast that inhabits the wasteland.
Excalibur - The sword Excalibur is a weapon of great power and makes anyone who wields it unstoppable. Only a chosen few are destined to wield Excalibur and only they may use the sword without becoming corrupt with its power.
Free Will - The Rule of Free Will is a period of 48 hours after a witch comes into her powers, during which time, she can be turned to Evil if she decides to use her powers for Evil. Whilst a witch can become Evil at any time by repeated misuse of her powers, it only takes a single act during Free Will to make a permanent change to Evil.
The Grimoire - The Grimoire is an important tome for Evil and it has the ability to protect itself from good. It contains the instructions for all of Evil's most important ceremonies. It is the Evil counterpart of the Book of Shadows.
Handfasting - Handfasting is the eternal bonding of two people in love. It is a sacred ceremony of commitment presided over by a high priestess. Best performed at a time of sunrise or sunset when both the sun and the moon are present in the joining of the two lovers.
Magic School - This institution is a school in which all kinds of good magical children can be nurtured and taught with peers who also have magical abilities. As the children grow they are taught to hone and develop their talents. An elder named Gideon acts as the school's headmaster. Magic School is protected by magic in that no one can be killed on the premises.
The Manor - The Manor is where the Charmed line live. The house has been in the Halliwell family for generations and is placed directly above a Nexus.
Nexus - A Nexus is a point of power that is equal distance from each of the 5 spiritual elements, Wood, Earth, Fire, Water and Metal. This power can be harnessed for both Good and Evil. The Nexus under the Halliwell Manor is inhabited by something known as the Shadow (also known as the Woogy Man, see above), which has the power to corrupt anyone who has contact with it. It can be banished by summoning it's counterpart energy that also inhabits the Nexus.
Parallel World - In a universe designed to maintain a balance, worlds that parallel each other must exist. In order for a world in which good prevails, an equally evil world must also exist. These worlds mirror each other—whatever happens in one must happen in the other and whoever exists in one world exists in another only their morality is reversed. Whitelighters in this world are darklighters in the parallel world, etc. If these worlds intersect, the balance can be thrown off. If too much good is done in the world dominated by evil, then a great act of evil must be perpetrated in the other world to realign the balance, or vice versa.  
Tribunal - A council made up of both Elders and Demons, the Tribunal monitors magic to keep people from ever finding out about its use, whatever the cost. 
Wiccan Rede - Witches must follow a code called The Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what ye will." If a witch breaks this rede and uses her magic to harm others, she will cross over to the dark side and become a warlock, whose only goal is to kill good witch and obtain their powers.
This archive page covers approximately the dates between 19 Jun 2005 and 28 Nov 2005.
Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarizing the section you are
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thread_title: the following is the information deleted

message: Athame - An athame is a ceremonial tool, a double-edged knife that witches use to direct energy.
On the Place of Magic In The Rearing of a Child - A child is the frailest and most innocent of all innocents. It is therefore unlawful and unnatural to use magic to change what is in the nature of a child. Before casting a spell that affects a child, the witch must ask herself, "am I doing this for the child or am I doing this for myself?" 
Book of Shadows - The Book of Shadows is a book of many spells, potions, and information about demons and magical beings. It is protected from evil and no evil being can handle it. It is a family heirloom to the Charmed line, and cannot be taken from the Manor by someone who isn't of that line. It is the Good counterpart of the Grimoire.
The Demonic Wasteland - When demons are vanquished, they are sent to the demonic wasteland where their bodies are destroyed and their powers are left to be devoured by the beast that inhabits the wasteland.
Excalibur - The sword Excalibur is a weapon of great power and makes anyone who wields it unstoppable. Only a chosen few are destined to wield Excalibur and only they may use the sword without becoming corrupt with its power.
Free Will - The Rule of Free Will is a period of 48 hours after a witch comes into her powers, during which time, she can be turned to Evil if she decides to use her powers for Evil. Whilst a witch can become Evil at any time by repeated misuse of her powers, it only takes a single act during Free Will to make a permanent change to Evil.
The Grimoire - The Grimoire is an important tome for Evil and it has the ability to protect itself from good. It contains the instructions for all of Evil's most important ceremonies. It is the Evil counterpart of the Book of Shadows.
Handfasting - Handfasting is the eternal bonding of two people in love. It is a sacred ceremony of commitment presided over by a high priestess. Best performed at a time of sunrise or sunset when both the sun and the moon are present in the joining of the two lovers.
Magic School - This institution is a school in which all kinds of good magical children can be nurtured and taught with peers who also have magical abilities. As the children grow they are taught to hone and develop their talents. An elder named Gideon acts as the school's headmaster. Magic School is protected by magic in that no one can be killed on the premises.
The Manor - The Manor is where the Charmed line live. The house has been in the Halliwell family for generations and is placed directly above a Nexus.
Nexus - A Nexus is a point of power that is equal distance from each of the 5 spiritual elements, Wood, Earth, Fire, Water and Metal. This power can be harnessed for both Good and Evil. The Nexus under the Halliwell Manor is inhabited by something known as the Shadow (also known as the Woogy Man, see above), which has the power to corrupt anyone who has contact with it. It can be banished by summoning it's counterpart energy that also inhabits the Nexus.
Parallel World - In a universe designed to maintain a balance, worlds that parallel each other must exist. In order for a world in which good prevails, an equally evil world must also exist. These worlds mirror each other—whatever happens in one must happen in the other and whoever exists in one world exists in another only their morality is reversed. Whitelighters in this world are darklighters in the parallel world, etc. If these worlds intersect, the balance can be thrown off. If too much good is done in the world dominated by evil, then a great act of evil must be perpetrated in the other world to realign the balance, or vice versa.  
Tribunal - A council made up of both Elders and Demons, the Tribunal monitors magic to keep people from ever finding out about its use, whatever the cost. 
Wiccan Rede - Witches must follow a code called The Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what ye will." If a witch breaks this rede and uses her magic to harm others, she will cross over to the dark side and become a warlock, whose only goal is to kill good witch and obtain their powers.
This archive page covers approximately the dates between 19 Jun 2005 and 28 Nov 2005.
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thread_title:  Other Information 

message: I've started the process of merging the pages notated as such, but it is creating a huge page.  Instead i propose merging the character pages with the 'list of good/bad' pages, so that the information is still together, but doesn't clutter up the main page too much --Jenblower 18:38, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging sub-topics 

message: I'd like to suggest that all of the various character bios should be split off the main page onto seperate sections. The main page as it is, is just far too difficult to read it's so huge. Most of the characters (the mains at least) already have seperate pages with information on them, so anything on the main page is just duplication anyway. The minor characters could also be split off into a page for each section (ie: one page for all familial relations) which would allow the section on each family member to be further expanded without threatening to make the main page even longer still.
Maelwys 05:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I started by giving the Locations a new article, similarly to the other Charmed lists. AdamDobay 17:56, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting information off from Main page 

message: I recently posted on my user page a commentary about Charmed.  You can add your thoughts to what I have written.--Tjkphilosofe 08:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Charmed is so important 

message: I have edited the External links section, removing a number of links to non-official websites some of which were put up because it's "super" or "large". Having visited at least a few dozen of such websites, I think that only official sites should be listed here from now on, because there are larger and smaller Charmed websites on the internet and there is no consensus as to which would be better or worse. Thus I think that visitors to this article should only be pointed to official websites. AdamDobay 17:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if we should bring out to visible status what I had put in HTML comment about posting other links than official websites. (By the way I'm still around but I have my exam period now which lessens my time for working on the 'pedia.) AdamDobay 15:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links section 

message: * I've removed the references to Buffy the Vampire Slayer in the last section, as the phrase "Oh my Goddess" was not invented by the show Charmed but is a general exclamation, especially for those (like Willow) who are (fictional or non-fictional) Goddess-believers, and thus the phrase is not taken from there. Furthermore, the capability of getting to know things about the future isn't something unique that only the creators of Charmed thought up, and there are absolutely no similarities between the concept of Phoebe's premonitions and the dreaming of the next day as carried out by Tru in Tru calling. Not to mention that Cordelia's power is again, entirely different from that of Phoebe, and even if they were similar it would not be very wise to draw the conclusion that Joss Whedon got it from Charmed as there is nothing to support that. AdamDobay 23:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing unsupported claims

message: * Can someone condense the last paragraph in Piper's bio thing (about Leo and how their love will be tested), it's a (confusing) summary of a few episodes (I think), and is about the same length as the summary for 4 seasons previously! I would do it, but I've not seen season 8 (which may be why it's confusing to me, although language seems a bit off too), but it seems too detailed? Also reverted some changes re Cole and Barbas, were poorly written imo Sadisticality 12:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I've been wanting to do that but I've been sort of mesmerised with the completely irrelevant, unacademic content that gets uploaded every day. So much for an entry on a show with many unprofessional fans. AdamDobay 17:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: *I agree wholeheartedly, I've wanted to do that for a while though there seemed to be some resistance to the idea up above. I'd already started the process by moving the spells off to their own page, but would love to see the same happen for the characters. For the characters, all that needs to be on the main page is something like. "Phoebe Halliwell is played by Alyssa Milano. Pheobe is the youngest of the original 3 sisters, and her powers have included premonition and levitation. Because her powers are generally passive, she's also learned how to be a capable fighter." Basically, just a brief introduction, and the rest of the details can go on the characters own page. Maelwys 17:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * I agree with you both about moving the bio's, would cut down article length, and probably (just from a quick look at Phoebe's bio compared to her info on the main page) improve the other articles, at the moment it just looks like someone's written a sentence about what happened to her in every episode nearly. Sadisticality 20:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bio condensing

message: I've heard the version that Charmed is now the longest running female-lead show, but is it really? It now surpasses Laverne and Shirley in no. of episodes, but I've heard counterarguments that Murder She Wrote is the longest-running female lead show because it ran for several more years than any of these. Any ideas on how this is calculated? AdamDobay 01:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Recent interview with show exec. producer Brad Kern in TVGuide , the question is cleared up. As Kern put it, I kept pressing the publicity people, saying, "Are we sure we're right about this?" because wasn't Murder, She Wrote on for, like, 12 years? They said, "No, no, this is for female leads, plural." AdamDobay 09:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest running female-lead show? 

message: Do we really need a complete listing of the fine print closing credits on the main page? It seems to take up a lot of space, and any of the information there that people would actually find useful is already included elsewhere on the page. Maelwys 20:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One: It seems to be a direct copy from somewhere. Two: completely unnecessary. This is a page for general information. Who wants to know the second assistant make-up artist can look it up on IMDB, and what Spelling Entertainment is can be gotten from its own article. AdamDobay 20:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits Section 

message: Do all the supporting cast really need photos on the main page? Wouldn't photo's in their individual articles be enough? Plus the photo of the actor playing Dan Gordon that's up at the time I'm writing this bears no resemblance to the character, I don't think, so it's just a shot of the actor, not the actor as the character Sadisticality 15:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Dan's picture should definitely be changed to one of the character (and Cole's too now that we're at that). But otherwise, I'm pro for attaching pictures to the characters, that gives a little flavour for the raw text, although I still agree these are too large. AdamDobay 16:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: Considering the amount of rumours appearing on the internet regarding Charmed, an uprise in rumour inclusion in the article can be expected in the following weeks and months. I'll just quickly include some of the rumours here, each of which is either based on obscure, ambiguous statements from cast and crew members, or just simply based on fan speculation. 
* Alyssa Milano will not appear in Season 9 (based on a recent Charmed Magazine interview she had said she wanted a break after Charmed -- but didn't state whether she would leave)
* Rose McGowan will not appear in Season 9 (in an interview she said she is contracted for eight years)
* Charmed is not getting a Season 9 (speculations from dropping ratings, budget cuts or the above rumours)
* Charmed is getting a Season 9 (speculations based on David Janollari, WB president of entertainment saying something along the lines of Charmed possibly having the legs to run a bit more)
Nothing has officially been announced, so if any of the rumours above pop up, even if in a manner that looks to have background, feel free to delete it. It was hinted by Janollari (so this is also a rumour :) that we will not know about the show's future until around May. AdamDobay 09:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumours uprise 

message: Text consisted of: " This show is incredibly stupid and makes a mockery of Wicca and other forms of Witchcraft and Paganism. Aaron Spelling should be sued for making such a rediculous show with such rediculous views on Witchcraft. This goes right up there with The Craft. If you have any respect for Witches, Wiccans, Shamans, or any other Pagan religions, you'd stop watching this stupid show.
Thank you."
Didn't strike me as particularly unbiased or productive...
::A note on Charmed and Wicca, for future reference: Charmed has not mentioned Wicca as an organized religion since the first episode of season two, and has never really had anything to do with it in the first place, as there was only a limited number of references to the term which did not go beyond the word being said out loud. The word "Wiccan" as an adjective to "Wiccan duties" has been used about two times since season two, and has not been used since season five. The term "Wiccaning" was used two times, without any religious connotation. No form of Paganism has ever been mentioned in the series, and the creators have never ever proposed any link made between the world of Charmed and any real-life religion or lifestyle.
::To sum up, there may be need for mention of the above facts to clarify that Charmed has next to nothing to do with Wicca. Otherwise, I have, in my four year acquaintance with the topic, have seen not more than three of four claims against Charmed from Wiccan or Pagan circles, so this might not even be a problem worth mentioning. AdamDobay 18:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but without religious connotation. Wiccan was, what I understand from the context, simply used as an adjective for 'witch', not as 'a practitioner of the Wiccan religion' as there's been no mention of the religion since season 2. AdamDobay 22:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dropped the editorial from the beginning 

message: Just a note, if anything in the future arises about this Adrian Hickman character, feel free to delete it without hesitation. There is no such character in the show, there has not been one, and there will not be such a character in season eight. Someone keeps spamming this article, unfortunately. AdamDobay 17:48, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adrian nonsense 

message: Hello. If you could take a moment to express your opinion if the photo Image:CharmedHollyMarieCombs.jpg should remain on the Wikipedia site or not, I would be very appreciative. This is the photo presently on the main Charmed page under the Piper paragraph. You can give your opinion on that page's talk page. There seems to be some question as to its right to be on the site. Thank you. Artemisboy 01:08, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your Vote for ''Image:CharmedHollyMarieCombs.jpg''

message: I don't know if it should go under Licenses or not, but shouldn't there be a mention of Charmed books and other merchandise beyond the DVDs? (at the very least I would expect some info on the books and a possible brief mention of other materials licensed.
*I'm wondering if the DVD information should be split off from the main page as well, forming an article with the rest of the Charmed merchandise: Charmed Magazine, Charmed books, Soundtracks and Charmed dolls. AdamDobay 16:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Licensing

message: I've been thinking that with the Charmed Template being added to every page (including the episode pages) it should be altered to take up a little less space on the page (height-wise). I've worked up an alternate look for it, check it out User:Maelwys/Charmed Draft and let me know what you think. 
:Maelwys 20:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there Maelwys, I think that your template version is though space-conserving, it is much more complex to understand. When I look at any item I have to cross-check it with the category at the left to see what I'm looking at, it's a bit blurry for me thus. I do not know what would be a better option, but I'll keep thinking. AdamDobay 19:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charmed Template 

message: I think ratings should either be moved to a separate article or just simply deleted. They do not really give any general information on the show as this article is intended to give, and by being so it just takes space and makes the article much more of a box of randomness like how it was some months ago. Opinions? AdamDobay 19:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we really need the ratings? 

message: The image shown above the show's description is great and all, but it's way too big in file size, especially when you view the source file of it. It's too big for dial-up users, and seems to load slowly from Wikipedia anyway, seeing as I'm on broadband, and it loaded very slowly. I think a better (static) picture should be found to replace it. BenoitRen 18:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a static picture before, I wonder where it's gone. AdamDobay 22:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charmed template image 

message: Okay, I wrote up the notable changes I'm aware of. It is late and English is not my first language so please forgive me if I left any grammar mistakes or repeated words too often ('notably' and 'debate' comes to mind). I did not have time to look up the exact references, will add some for the Shannen Doherty departure (without quotes it's not really good). If you have comments or think something does not belong, I'm open for discussion. AdamDobay 22:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Show Changes section started

message: I have removed Gonzalo's extension of the "most famous jump the shark moment" section for multiple reasons:
1. Constance M. Burge did not leave at the end of the third season, but after the second season, and continued to work as consultant until the end of the fourth season.
2. Burge's leaving is not the most famous jump the shark moment as it is evident to a much, much smaller group of people. Shannen Doherty's departure, on the contrary, got the most press in the history of the series.
Also please consider replacement of another change by you Gonzalo, which is changing the phrase "surviving jump the shark moments" to "continuing despite etc.", as this phrase to me implies that the series should have stopped after these moments. With writing the word "surviving" I was trying to imply that the series has always kept its high, keeping its place as the, if I remember correctly, fifth most rated The WB show. As "surviving" may not be the best word I propose another, but better suiting and NPOV phrase. AdamDobay 23:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, that sentence is a bit garbled. I was trying to say that the show always kept a relatively high rating. The question is what do we mean by survival? I mean that despite the changes some have said to have been bad, the show been on, it hasn't really been struggling except for the renewal fiasco last year from the part of TheWB. AdamDobay 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Beginning changes

message: Do we really need all this trivia? Especially the much trivia added today and all of which I've seen exactly worded like this on another site already? I removed some which talked about subjects already in the article, I wonder what to do with the rest, it's pretty miscellaneous. AdamDobay 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: I removed the entry about Phoebe's levitation being taken out for budget reasons. As I've worked in the film industry for many years and have a bit of an insight into effects and postproduction I can tell you that it's much cheaper to have someone pulled vertically up into the air using ropes (like they did with Phoebe's levitation) then to produce, for instance, orbing, which takes a lot of precision work on set and expensive post-production afterwards. AdamDobay 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Budget cuts

message: I'm just browsing around here, and noticed that there isn't even a single mention of the "Featuring" of music that was done in Charmed. Charmed, together with Dawson's Creek basically introduced this practice to the TV series at large. Someone interested in adding something on this? The DJ 01:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music of Charmed

message: From the article: In season seven, the doors closed on an empty house shortly after Prue's power inspired victory, the door was telekinetically closed by the (unseen) ghost of Prue.
Where did the supposition that this was Prue's ghost come from? I haven't seen this episode since it originally aired almost a year ago, but I certainly don't remember any of the characters saying "Hey look, it's Prue's (unseen) ghost!" or anything of the sort. ;-) This strikes me as Original Research, but before removing it, I wanted to ask around to see if I'm the only one that missed this connection... Maelwys 16:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While the sentence is a bit biased towards saying 'Prue' as many times as possible, the closing of doors is done by an invisible force with the sound of Prue's telekinesis. I'll reword that in a moment. AdamDobay 18:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Closing Doors

message: Looking at the changes of the past days, I wonder why the entire External links section was removed, along with a number of links to other language pages. Is this justified by anything? AdamDobay 18:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess is that it was justified by the fact that somebody just wanted to have fun. I looked back a couple days, it was done by the same guy that randomly inserted "xmen" into the article. Looks like when xmen was fixed, we missed the fact that the categories, most of the languages, and the footer template had also been removed. I've restored all of these now. Maelwys 20:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. AdamDobay 22:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links and languages removed?

message: There seems to have been some debate over whether to use the Region 2 and 4 cover art or Region 1. I was one of those in favour of using Region 2 and 4, although that might be slightly biased seeing as I'm from the UK and think our covers are nicer. I experimented with the Cover Art table to see if I could incorporate all covers into it, and I think I came up with a solution to satisfy everyone. What do you think? Binthemix 17:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD Cover Art

message: Just want to let everybody know if you haven't seen it already, that List of magic spells in Charmed is currently marked for deletion. Follow this link to add your comments to the discussion on whether or not it should be removed.
-- Maelwys 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion Alert 

message: Someone removed the whole Trivia section. I do not think it should be deleted just like that. Could someone please restore at least the important or most interestingpieces of trivia? AdamDobay 21:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia removed

message: The unknown poster who deleted the whole of the Trivia section also posted the following into the DVD section:
"However, there will be extras, and special features, for the Charmed Complete Season Eight DVD:  
"...Also new on the Charmed DVD front...there will be DVD extras on the Charmed Season Eight DVD's. Fans have been persistent and now have been rewarded!..."
Those are the exact copywrited words taken from the above website. The words do not belong to me. Therefore, if they violate any rules for Wikipedia, feel free to delete the respective portion.
End quote. It is only one thing that I do not understand why the third paragraph of this has to be there, but overall it is to be noted that thecharmedones.com is not an official information source and they have been wrong many times over the past. Thus I will change the section accordingly. AdamDobay 21:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Season 8 DVD

message: This morning a link to this page was added into the template, bringing this page that I hadn't noticed before to my attention. Taking a look at it, it's basically a horribly formatted version of the recently deleted "List of Charmed spells" page. It has a bit of extra information (episode names), but aside from that is a major pain on the eyes to read. I see two options for how we can deal with this:
#Remove all the spell information from the page, leaving just a basic description of what the BoS is.
#Cleanup and reformat the whole page to look pretty and be more useful than either this page, or the old List of Spells page was.
Basically, the second route is to make this page into what some of us wanted the List of Spells page to become, had it survived the AfD. Either way we go, we'll need to move on it ASAP, or this page will also get AfD'd with the state it's in now. The only mystery is how it's survived 8 months like that... Thoughts? --Maelwys 15:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Book of Shadows (Charmed)]] 

message: Charmed is a great show that i will miss because it is so awesome! Can someone please confirm that it WILL be cancelled in May? I'd really rather it not be.
*Yep, the series is as good as done. As mentioned in the article, the crew wrapped up their final day of shooting yesterday, so now we're just waiting for those last episodes to hit the screen and then it'll be all over. Enjoy your DVDs. --Maelwys 18:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Charmed Cancelled

message: I've created a Charmed characters infobox and applied it to Prue, Piper, Phoebe, Paige, Leo, Cole, Dan, Jenny, Darryl, Andy, Wyatt, Chris, Billie and Christy. The format should be viewable by clicking "edit" on any of the pages. It'd be nice if people could use the template for editing other characters, specifically ones who've been in more than one episode or are part of the Warren family. Toodles. Zythe 23:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charmed Infobox 

message: People keep reentering Marnette Patterson as a supporting character. I would like to note that supporting characters in the show have been those characters who have appeared in at least most episodes of one season, AND are listed in the show's title sequence. So Season 8's Billie, or Season 6's Chris are supporting characters because they have been in the titles even though they've only been in one season, while Marnette Patterson is not a supporting character because she is not in the main titles and appears in much less than a full season. She is also not a recurring character because recurring characters are those which repeatedly appear in more than one season in the same role (by the way, Elise Rothman is missing from that list). If we were to include Christy in either Supporting or Recurring, on that basis characters like Zankou, Jason Dean, Gideon, Avatar Alpha, and at least two dozen other characters would be supporting. And they're not. AdamDobay 09:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marnette Patterson 

message: (Copied from article talk page.)
I'm considering nominating this article for deletion, as the information contained there is redundant to the articles Charmed season summaries, Andy Trudeau, and Prudence Halliwell. I'm hoping to learn the opinions of other editors before I proceed. Thanks. MiraLuka 00:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Make it redirect to Prudence Halliwell :) or just delete it Zythe 16:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like that idea even better than deleting it. I've redirected it to Charmed season summaries though, I thought that would be better. :) MiraLuka 22:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Andy and Prudence (Charmed)]]

message: I've been playing around with the family tree template and created this:
Think this is worth including somewhere? It can either be put on each family member's page to show their place in the family, or just once on the List of Friends and Family page to show the overview... or not at all if people don't think it's even worth having around. Thoughts please? --Maelwys 12:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its good, but shouldnt Coop be on there because he marries Phoebe in season 8. Ian42 19:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I haven't seen that episode yet (since it's not on the air yet), so I haven't added that. Plus, I haven't figured out where to add it yet, since I'll have to rearrange things a bit to make it fit. ;-) --Maelwys 00:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nicely done. However, you should add Coop (Surname?), as well as Piper's, Phoebe's and Paige's future children (see "Kill Billie Vol. 2" and "Forever Charmed" - the two final episodes of the series). Also, so that it is complete, you should add Phoebe's first two husbands (Cole Turner and Dexter Lawson). In addition, why not add family that goes beyond Grams? Her mother was P. Baxter and her father, Gordon Johnson. P. Baxter had two cousins (therefore, her mother had two sisters - one of whom was Brianna Warren). The cousins were called P. Bowen and P. Russell (which was Brianna's daughter is unknown, although most likely P. Bowen, considering Brianna's close family traits to Prudence Halliwell and the fact that P. Bowen was Prue's past life). The three sisters' (including Brianna's)great-grandmother was Prudence Warren, great-great-grandmother was Melinda Warren and great-great-great-grandmother was Charlotte Warren. (This number of "great"'s is according to the spell in Season One's "The Witch Is Back" where Melinda was revealed to be the sisters' great(x6) grandmother). I hope this helps in extending the family tree, and helping to present the Charmed One's genealogy in an easier-to-read format. --Danny DeSio 13:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Tree

message: I dont know about everyone else, but i think that someone should make a Charmed Wiki. Theres a Star Wars one, Lost one, Star Trek, why not Charmed? If anyone has any free time that is! - Ian42 19:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I think there's enough info on it here that it'd just be a duplication of work. How much extra stuff would appear on that Wiki that doesn't already appear here? --Maelwys 22:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Well, there is a lostpedia why not a Charmed one, Charmed has been running for longer. - Ian42 21:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *That doesn't really answer my question. ;-) Lostpedia exists because it's a place to put all the speculation, guessing, and theories that don't belong here, because they're not encyclopedic. Charmed doesn't have quite the same level of stuff going on. Most of the information I could think of that I'd want on a "Wiccapedia" is already right here, so why bother duplicating the work to create it all again? --Maelwys 23:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Actually, I'd suggest starting a Charmed Wikiproject if you are interested in this. —MiraLuka 00:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Yeah, I considered starting a Wikiproject a while back, but then figured that the scope wasn't quite big enough that having it as a project would really be that helpful. Most stuff that'd get discussed on a project page just gets discussed here instead, with this page being the central hub for discussions dealing with anything Charmed... it's been working like that pretty well so far, so can probably stay that way at this point. Especially since the show's basically done, and then the amount of stuff available to contribute will start to drop drastically. --Maelwys 02:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: *With a little bit of searching, I found a Charmed wiki. It doesn't look like much work has been done on it, though. —MiraLuka 01:02, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Yeah, that's the same problem I find with most offshoot wiki's... it's a much smaller audience, so much less useful information available because there's a lot less editors and people check it a lot less often. Here at least we can hit more people, so get more help, and even if I forget to check some of the other wiki's that often, I'll probably be here every day, so I'm more likely to contribute something useful. --Maelwys 02:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Charmed Wiki

message: Please visit Talk:Book of Shadows (Charmed) and contribute to the discussion on the future of that article. Thanks. MiraLuka 22:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Book of Shadows (Charmed)]] x2

message: Do we really need a separate section for the finale? I think not. Partly because what happens in it should go into the article for the episode, and partly because the rest of what is in there is not crucial. Besides, I looked it up and Shannen Doherty met Rose McGowan four years ago, not this year, so that part is to be removed anyway. What do you think? AdamDobay 10:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I tend to agree. I don't mind having some trivia about the finale on the main page (the info on filming dates ending the series, etc) but having that there tends to invite other people to add episode synopsis and other stuff we don't want. So it's probably better to move what's there now into the Trivia section on the episode page, and off the main page. --Maelwys 11:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Finale section 

message: Some person keeps adding extra powers to Chris Halliwell's infobox. Also, please refrain from entering spoilers from the last episode into the infoboxes. This means please don't add Melinda Halliwell, Henry Jr. Mitchell, Matthew Halliwell, Cooop and Phoebe and Paige's daughters into the "family" sections. Zythe 21:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persistent problems 

message: Charmed	This user is a fan of the Charmed TV Series.
to your userpages, and PLEASE feel free to make it more aesthetically pleasing. Zythe 21:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice idea, but it's too pink for my tastes. :) AdamDobay 22:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feel free to add 

message: If you see someone's added a list of powers a character had in a singular episode, such as "Shadow Leo", "Hindu Piper", "Goddess Phoebe" etc., please revert those changes. They're from singular episodes and don't reflect the  character as they stand at present. If you were to look at the bio pages for Marvel Comics characters eg. Jean Grey, Wolverine, Northstar etc. they only have the chatacters current powers. Not included are say, the ones where they received temporary powers.Zythe 19:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grr 

message: There has been a request to move Barbas, the Demon of Fear to Barbas (Charmed). Please share your opinion at Talk:Barbas, the Demon of Fear Thank you. —MiraLuka 06:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move at [[Barbas, the Demon of Fear]]

message: I just noticed that the titles of all of the articles for individual Charmed episodes have a capital "E" in their title. (see Forever Charmed (Charmed Episode) for an example) By Wikipedia standards, these articles should have a small "e" in the title. I almost started going through and changing them all, but I just want to be sure that I won't get reverted first. Thanks. —MiraLuka 08:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fine. Thumbs up! :) AdamDobay 09:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed, good plan. --Maelwys 20:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'll start work on it soon. —MiraLuka 01:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless I missed any, I'm done now. —MiraLuka 07:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Titles of episode articles

message: There has been a request to move Charrrmed (Charmed episode) to Charrrmed! (Charmed episode). Please share your opinion at Talk:Charrrmed (Charmed episode) Thank you. —MiraLuka 03:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move at [[Charrrmed (Charmed episode)]]

message: I recently created a page at User:MiraLuka/Charmed recent changes. It contains a listing of all of the articles in :Category:Charmed and its subcategories. If you go to the page and click the "Related changes" link to the left (or just click here), it works like the recent changes page, but only for Charmed-related articles. I hope this is of some use. —MiraLuka 02:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Charmed recent changes

message: The information on the number of viewers for "Forever Charmed" keeps getting changed back and forth between 4.49 million and 4.98 million (although someone has now changed the number on this page to "about 5 million"). Does someone have a source that will fix this craziness? —MiraLuka 19:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The confusion stems from the fact that there were numbers announced for the overnight ratings, there were numbers announced for the fast nationals and there are yet other numbers that were said to be final ratings. The following versions are present:
* Nielsen Media Research (published in Mediaweek) says it is 4.23 million (3.7/6; 1.8/5 adults).
* Fast National ratings report says 2.7/4, no number of viewers.
* Casahalliwell.it and Television Without Pity reports 4.98 million, but these numbers were released before the official announcement of the final numbers.
* Finally, ABCMedia.net reports 4.49 million (#74).
From this we can conclude that the final viewer figure is 4.49 million. AdamDobay 21:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thank you very much. —MiraLuka 22:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of viewers

message: Okay, so I'm off uni for the summer. I just thought it'd be really awesome if we could improve/clean-up this article (it's pretty good already, but everything can always be refined, right?) in the hopes of it become a featured article. Anyone up for helping out? We can make a list of stuff we aim to achieve, blah, blah. Binthemix 03:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be interested in helping however I can. —MiraLuka 04:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Clean-up