Talk:Kenpachi Zaraki

message: I don't think that Ichinose used his bankai during his fight with Zaraki.  Despite being a powerful attack he used, he didn't once say the word "Bankai" which if you look at every other time a captain used his bankai they did.  Neither did he mention that it was his bankai either.--Smzz 19:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bankai

message: Hmm...  The article suggests that Zaraki hasn't achieved Shikai--but the anime makes it clear that Zaraki and Ichigo have permanantly released Zanpakuto.  So he and Ichigo walk around in Shikai state and don't need to release their Zanpakuto (I believe another Wikipedia article talks about this and states that it's probably considered rude in Soul Society).  Of course, it's very true that knowing the sword's name is supposedly a condition for Shikai and I guess I feel that's one of the impressive things about Zaraka: he forced his Zanpakuto into Shikai state without knowing it's name.Demia 04:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The generally accepted opinion on that comment was that Zaraki had no clue what he was talking about and was just mouthing off. His zanpakuto is specially shaped, but still nameless, and has no abilities, so it is not a shikai. Much like Ichigo's first sword was specially shaped. They specifically state that Zaraki has no Shikai.--Tjstrf 08:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Ichigo had to find out Zangetsu's name to achieve shikai, even though his sword is always released after the first shikai; therefore logically Zaraki would have to as well. I'm not 100% sure though. -- Ynhockey 13:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It states in the anime that Kenpachi has not yet asked his Zanpakuto its name so he could not achieve shikai or bankai. Orochimaru12 03:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

text: As I recall, the Databook explicitly mentions that Kenpachi's Zanpakuto is always in Shikai --Cronodude360 (talk) 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shikai 

message: I don't remember him ever identifying himself with a number, like most of the other shinigami do when they introduce themselves. Also, I remember that when they had him in the "End of Episode, Kon Segment", he was identified as "rank and file", at least according to the Lunar sub. However, I haven't read the manga up to that point, so that may be it. — TheBenignBovine| (talk) 06:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I can't remember the time/place, but I'm sure he did say his seat sometime, because once someone changed it in the article and it took me quite a while to check and find out for sure. If I have time, I'll try to find the exact episode or manga chapter. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 08:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aramaki Makizou's Rank? 

message: I don't want to be the obnoxious wikipedian who self righteously deletes other peoples contributions. But I feel this section is useless and whatever in it should be in the synopsis. because there should be some symmetry between articles. Either all characters should have notable battles section or none should have it at all. Noman953
:That does sound like a good idea.  I could see the reasoning in that fighting is so much a part of Kenpachi's character, however, that would make sense to simply incorporate it into the synopsis. --ACDragonMaster 00:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Battles 

message: "Changed through their battle, Kenpachi begins his search for his zanpakutō's name, so that he can once again challenge Ichigo"
Is this right?? I mean, this sentence suggest that Zaraki is busy trying to find out his zanpaktoh's name, but I have not seen him trying..have you?? 
He only said something like it, during a moment of sorrow, like the article said...but so far he has not done anything to back this up..so this sentence is not completely fitting is it?? 
However, even then, he is not yet capable of communicating with his zanpakutō, and continually tries to learn from his zanpakutō so that he can achieve a new tier of power.
The same applies to this sentence, since Zaraki does not continually tries to know his zanpaktoh's name. Nothing has been said or shown to back this up...it's only hinted that Zaraki might be trying to. 
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 (talk) 06:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. That section confused me a great deal when I read it because when I had later seen the anime and read the appropriate manga chapters it made no sense. Nothing after in either the manga or anime supports those conclusions. I'd go ahead and cut out or edit the parts you've quoted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.59.44.106 (talk) 02:39, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think this has been discussed before. Basically it could indeed be some unkown ability which will be revealed later (definitely not Getsuga Tenshō), but it could also just be a way of showing that his sword is moving extremely fast (a sort of blur). -- Ynhockey (Talk) 08:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: He muttered something like, "I must become stronger." He then said to his sword, "What is your name?!".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.160.56 (talk) 23:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Zaraki 

message: I know it says that Kenpachi is a Constant release type, but so was Ichigo, and we still saw his original blade. Does that mean that once he does find his Swords name it will stay in release? Because everyone seems to have different thoughts on it, but it has yet to display any powers normally associated with Release, nor does he ever use a specail Technique when he fights. So which is it?
:It's what the article says. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is as Zaraki even said in episode 38 (chapter 103) said that it is he even said that it never had a sealed form to begin with. Also note that like Ichigo's the handle and sheath are just a simple cloth warp but Zaraki's sheath remains even after it is drawn. thedarklonewolf
Also Ichigo's sword gained its new shaped after he regained his powers.  (After his sword was broken by Byakuya, and after Byakuya had wounded him destroying his powers)  Up to that point Ichigo was using power he gained from Rukia, and if you read between the lines the change in swords represents the change in Ichigo from using "borrowed" power, to using his own.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.28.231.195 (talk) 04:39, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Kenpachi in Release or not? 

message: There seems to be an error. How can Zaraki have 30000 votes when Hitsugaya, who placed 1st, recieved 8000 votes? Plus Grimmjow also placed 4th. Can someone check?--Hanaichi 05:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity votes 

message: First Jiraiya and now this?  I'm inclined to continue to assume good faith on the parts of the IPs but the speculation and updates need to stop or else this page might just be semi protected or worse. Sasuke9031 (talk) 03:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is it that characters voiced by David Lodge get so much grief? 

message: Okay, so it was just revealed that Kenpachi was forced to study Kendo when he entered the Gotei 13. I logged this, because it was something important that was revealed rather than the slash-almost die-suddenly fine-slash with new arms pattern that we had seen with him and Nnoitra. Why was this deleted? It is something that matters.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.35.247 (talk) 04:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can only assume because it was overly detailed and included a blow-by-blow of the scene. It also isn't something that would belong in that section. --Farix (Talk) 05:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I see. Still, the idea thus far was that Kenpachi had no formal training, so should this go under the "History" section or the "Zanpakuto" section or what?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.35.247 (talk) 05:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay I've edited it several times now but someone keeps reverting it. Kenpachi did not learn the technique from kendo. The technique is from kendo. I get what you were trying to say, but its just worded odd 134.121.250.173 (talk) 02:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... the way it is currently worded "After sustaining several injuries, Kenpachi emerges victorious by wielding his sword with two hands, a technique taken from kendo, to deal a powerful blow." is pretty weird.  It sounds as though wielding a sword with two hands is a kendo technique, as opposed to a typical stance of long hilted swords. Sonalchagi (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The way I see it, Kenpachi, who, remember, constantly tries to lower himself to his opponent's level with his eyepatch and bells and such, makes a point of only fighting with one hand rather than both in order to, once again, prolong the fight.  That two-handed blow was the only real good hit he got in during the entire Nnitoria fight, and it was easily the blow that killed the Espada, along with anything else in its path.  I have altered the article to attempt to correct the other deficiencies mentioned in the above comments, so prove me wrong if I've gotten anything wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.199.114 (talk) 02:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kenpachi's New Revalations 

message: The latest chapter seems to indicate that Zaraki may not be the very first Kenpachi.  While its unknown whether its him or someone else, it seems "Kenpachi" is actually a title set by the 11th Squad for their captain who becomes their leader and that there have been at least 10 Kenpachis prior to Zaraki.  Someone may have to adjust the part in the "History" that he's had the "Kenpachi" name even before he arrived in Soul Society and ascended to Captain. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The question I have: is the 10th Kenpachi mentioned in chapter 316 Zaraki or the Kenpachi Zaraki killed to become captain? In other words, is Zaraki the 10th or 11th Kenpachi? 130.49.157.75 (talk) 21:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They talk about his predecessor after talking about the current one, so 11. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So the next question is: did Zaraki kill his predecessor 100 years ago, or is the Kenpachi being talked about as the "new guy" #10? I ask because noting the time when Zaraki became a captain is somewhat important, since the other articles try to include it. 130.49.157.75 (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, going through, new one's the tenth, and presumably same as current. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name "Kenpachi" 

message: Do you think it was based on Moshe Dayan's eyepatch? They were both involved in fighting, and the eyepatches are similarly shaped.
James chen0 (talk) 23:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  His eyepatch 

message: IGN's got no authority or relevance in any evaluation of japanese media. I removed the section. Wikipedia is an international website. IGN does not represent a worldwide view. The section cannot be called "reception" if it's not a worldwide view.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.6.136.212 (talk) 17:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop.  IGN may be the quack site you make it out to be but established editors' consensus has agreed that IGN can be used an a reception to provide evidence of notability. Sasuke9031 (talk) 18:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  IGN 

message: Removed the excessive detail template, article appears concise and digestable.GarbledLecture933 (talk) 08:41, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: template