Talk:Kākā

message: Does anyone know (or know how to find out) whether the kaka is listed on CITES as 'endangered' or as 'vulnerable'? Currently the info-box says one thing and the text says another - neither with any external reference. - Bobathon (talk) 09:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: CITES status

message: Given that they visit areas outside native forests, "endemic to the native forests of New Zealand" seems misleading. Nurg (talk) 05:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endemic to native forests? 

message: The article says kaka have quite a varied diet, so the final paragraph either needs some serious sourcing/elucidation, or deletion. It says:
::"Research has shown that honeydew is very important for breeding birds, especially those breeding in southern beech forests. The difficult nature of controlling the wasps makes the New Zealand Kaka's future very uncertain."
Moriori (talk) 20:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that. The heading for that section is "Competition" and, besides not making sense, that statement doesn't seem to be about competition. Agree it should be deleted and information about competition should be added. 173.174.85.204 (talk) 14:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Signifcance of wasps

message: I was skeptical of the time period of when the Kaka was separated from other parrots and researched a little: Parrot says that their time period starts in the Eocene Epoch, about 56 million years ago, half of the time that the Click4Biology source gives. Perhaps a better time period might be the cenozoic breakup of Gondwana 55 million years ago? 203.97.203.122 (talk) 07:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  100 million years is too long 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  Jerm (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: New Zealand kaka →  – Proposing move to add macrons. Kākā is almost certainly the common name for the bird per recent sources. In this instance, the macrons are more important than usual as well, given that Kaka (without macrons) has an unfortunate other meaning, as a local council who named a street after the bird without using macrons found out. The "New Zealand" is also almost always omitted from the bird's name, given that New Zealand is the only place where extant kākā can be found. While this is different to the name listed by the IOC, WP:BIRDS naming conventions state that the article name can differ from this if there is proof that another name is more common, as was the case with Kererū vs. "New Zealand pigeon". Given that almost all major media outlets now use the macron (Stuff / NZ Herald / RNZ / Newshub / The Spinoff) and even international sources such as Nature and ScienceDaily use the macron, we should be reflecting this. Turnagra (talk) 18:13, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 October 2021 

message: The picture in the Breeding section says that there are two eggs in the picture, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20101127_Zealandia_0779.jpg. I'm not an expert, but I see six eggs. Which are the Kākā and what are the remaining four, or is the caption wrong? Last1in (talk) 16:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Count The Eggs 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: pages not moved to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below.  Dekimasuよ! 09:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: *Oppose while I appreciate the need for IOC to have distinct names for every single species, I feel like this is pretty well covered by the passage you quoted in WP:Birds' naming conventions. Both birds are almost exclusively and unambiguously referred to as their current titles in modern usage (see the various sources provided in each respective move request). I also note your argument that you don't think this would make them harder to find, only to contradict that by pointing out that users would arrive at the wrong page and have to navigate through it to get to the bird they were actually after. Surely that's the textbook definition of making it harder to find? Turnagra (talk) 19:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

text: *:Comment. Thanks for your comment. You make some good points. I edited my original post to respond to some of your concerns. I now recognize that using Kākā and Takahē as redirect pages is better than my original idea. I also added more information to show flaws in the sources you use in Talk:Kākā#Requested move 6 October 2021 and Talk:Takahē#Requested move 14 April 2022 to argue that the abbreviated titles are unambiguous. Columbianmammoth (talk) 04:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

text: *Oppose WP:COMMONNAME YorkshireExpat (talk) 21:30, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 June 2022