Talk:Brian O'Leary

message: See note from Brian O'Leary. Rlevse 15:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attention tag

message: Dear Sir,
I just looked at my entry into Wikipedia, and it is quite a distorted biography!  First, I want to emphasize that there is only a REMOTE chance the Apollo landings were faked.  But this is so out of context, I recommend your browsing my website, www.brianoleary.com for who I really am and what I´m doing, and accordingly update your entries.
Sincerely,
Brian O´Leary, Ph.D.
(moved by Rlevse from article page to here) Rlevse 16:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Apparent posting from O'Leary, moved from article page to here

message: I wrote Brian’s NASA biography that was recently published:
http://www11.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/oleary-bt.html
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#bio
and have collaborated with Brian in the past:
http://newenergymovement.org/arpa_e_concept_paper.pdf
I wrote this Wikipedia bio in consultation with Brian, and tried to not change much of what had been written before, but this change was intended to put more meat on the bones of what Wikipedia was calling a “stub” article before I changed it.  I put up a version on my site which contains information that might not fit within Wikipedia’s guidelines, but provides information that I think the public can benefit from. 
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm
I ask that if you want to make changes to Brian’s Wikipedia bio that we first discuss it on this talk page.  I do not want to get into edit wars, and am not overly concerned if editors want to make changes, but could we please discuss them first?
For instance, if the collective opinion is that too many academic articles are cited (considered “first-person” by Wikipedia), then we could do something along the lines of Gerard O’Neill’s bio:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_O%27Neill#Publications
I am willing to be quite flexible, in the spirit of getting this acceptable for Wikipedia’s standards, for somebody as controversial as Brian’s life’s work has proven to be.
Thank you,
Wadefrazier (talk) 21:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I rewrote Brian’s bio

message: Very unfortunately, Brian seems to be best known for his moon landing hoax speculations.  When I rewrote the biography, I left in the language that was already there, not wanting to fight that battle.  I originally left it in the “frontiers of science” section.  If you look at the article’s history, you will see that somebody quickly gave the moon hoax issue its own section, and now we have an edit war breaking out over it.  
Brian’s relationship to the moon hoax issue may always be a political football, at least until cameras return to the lunar landing sites and provide clearer images than have been seen to date.  With this incipient edit war breaking out, in early March 2011, I asked Brian his desire regarding the moon hoax issue, and he provided me with the following statement.
Dr. Brian O'Leary's "final word" about the moon landing hoax or non-hoax issue
Often I'm confronted with my opinion about an issue which has polar-opposite constituencies.  And now and then, that issue is couched in black-and-white terms which, as a scientist, I cannot be 100% sure of without further study.  That regrettably happened regarding whether or not the Apollo lunar landings were hoaxed.  
When confronted with these questions in the media, and in a speculative frame of mind (in my later years, I'm a fairly free thinker and so am a truth-seeker outside any vested interests whenever I can be), many related questions came to me and caused me to think more deeply about the issue:  Wouldn't NASA want to save face in one or more of the lunar landings and have a backup scenario such as this, unlikely as this could be?  Could at least some of the astronauts merely have orbited the Moon and not landed because of technical challenges at times during the race to the Moon?  
The fact is, I don't know these things for sure, but my statements have been manipulated by both opposing sides of the issue to imply I'm taking their side.  I'm not, although one would get the impression that I am.  
This flap is regrettable, because I have simply not sufficiently examined the scientific evidence on either side of the issue.  So, in good conscience as a competent scientist, I cannot form an expert opinion without much more detailed research that could come out of an impartial investigation.  I have chosen not to take the time to do the research needed to form an authoritative opinion.  I'm sorry if the politicized nature of the debate seemed to have put me in the forefront of the debate, and for that I may have helped give both sides some ammunition to do so.  
My choice now is simply to carry on with my own work rather than address issues relating to past events.  My choice is partially based on a desire to focus on what we need to do NOW about our pressing global problems such as war, torture, injustice, climate change, environmental pollution, dirty energy and water, deforestation, nonrenewable resource exploitation and unsustainable environmental, health and agricultural practices.  In these respects, my public persona mismatches who I really am and what I truly represent.  So, I'd like to be relieved of the responsibility for having a strong polarized position on an issue about which I know little and cannot contribute much to the greater responsibility we have as a civilization.
With best wishes for a satisfactory resolution of the matter,
Brian O'Leary
I also have it on my site:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement
I am currently looking for a place that will publish Brian’s statement that the Wikipedia “editors” will not erase because it is “poorly sourced” or other reasons.  That entire moon hoax section is about what Brian thinks about the issue, so Brian’s statement is the most authoritative source there is on this issue.  
Please do not edit that section without discussing it first on this talk page.  I don’t want to have to get the admins involved, but it may end up happening.  
Thank you,
Wadefrazier (talk) 13:46, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a bit of a stunner that O'Leary doesn't think we have good enough imagery of the Apollo landing sites yet. Isn't this good enough for him? El Ingles (talk) 15:10, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Moon Hoax edit wars

message: The cache shows that he supposedly died on July 28, 2011, in Vilcabamba. 
The current version shows him as alive. The date of death has been removed.
What's going on, please?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.61.109.161 (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It was incorrectly removed as vandalism, however it was right to revert it.  Citation of a reliable source for the news is really required to assert someone has died. ChiZeroOne (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Well, we can't have this information lingering with no references, so I've removed all of it. __meco (talk) 13:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death removed? 

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