Talk:Hôtel de Bourbon-Condé

message: Based on Frania's info I found this web page for the Institut Rue Monsieur. My French is not great, but it sounds like the school occupied the building from 7 March 1923 until July 2007, when it moved to another location. Am I reading it correctly? --Robert.Allen (talk) 04:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Institut Rue Monsieur 

message: Hi Frania, I mentioned "misnomer" because User:LouisPhilippeCharles has said that Bourbon-Condé is an incorrect name. It combines the family name and the name of the house, which is improper (even though apparently commonly done). This is why he moved the article from "Hôtel de Bourbon-Condé" to "Hôtel de Mademoiselle de Condé". So I have suggested we add a footnote mentioning that the compound name is a misnomer, since he, probably correctly, feels pretty strongly about it. I am trying to accommodate his views on this issue, so that the article won't get moved back and forth. We need some kind of compromise solution here to get consensus. I hope that this will be OK with him and you. Actually I think the combined name may only be completely improper when you use it for a person, rather than a building, since it is not the real name of the person, while the name of a building can in many instances be determined by common usage, e.g. The Pentagon is not the proper official name of the building as far as I know, but it would be ridiculous not to use it as the title of the article about that building. The proper name for a person cannot usually be determined by common usage. Such names are nicknames or styles, I guess, and should not ordinarily be used as the title of an article that is about a person, unless perhaps the name has been self-selected and this is well known. --Robert.Allen (talk) 00:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Robert, thank you for your quick answer. You are doing a nice job taking into consideration everyone's way of thinking, and let us go with the vote. Cordialement, --Frania W. (talk) 04:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Bourbon-Condé a "misnomer" when used for a building as opposed to a person? 

message: Sorry when I start again to flock a dead horse, but I discovered this discussion only now. Frankly, I am completely amazed that anyone considers calling this building anything else than Hotel Bourbon-Condé, as this is the name under which it is commonly known in France. The Hotel Condé was a completely different building, as several people have remarked on this discussion page (it was the historical seat of the Condé family, situated between today's Place d'Odéon and Jardin du Luxembourg in the 6th district). Why do you invent a new name that is different than (a literal translation of) the common French name?
Anyway, if there ever will be a French translation of that page then it certainly should be called that way.
Ralf.treinen (talk) 19:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add your vote to the poll above. Thanks. --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:50, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stick to the French name for the building 

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