Talk:The Maritimes

message: There are no formal regional boundaries in Canada. Ontario is described by some people as part of Central Canada, and others as part of Eastern Canada. Manitoba is in the Central Time Zone yet many people associate it with Western Canada. The word maritime simply denotes "of the sea" and any body of land that borders or is associated with the sea can be described as a maritime state or province (i.e. British Columbia and Quebec can be considered maritime provinces, and Maine is a maritime state). The introduction to this article which describes the "controversy" of Newfoundland and Labrador being part of the "maritime region" is not scholarly, is unsourced, and has no place in an encylopedia. There is no governing body or recognized boundaries for the "regions" of Canada, and their use is colloquial at best.
: Take a look at the Constitution Act, 1867, Section 22: "The Maritime Provinces, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island;" Maritimes is a term defined in law, and it excludes Newfoundland and Labrador. Indefatigable (talk) 16:22, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Authenticity

message: :This page seems too long and/or needs to be cleaned up.  I'd propose creating separate sub-articles/entries History of the Maritimes, Geography of the Maritimes, and Economy of the Maritimes for the detailed information while maintaining only quick and dirty facts about the region in this article, along with a map.  Anyone else have suggestions?  Cheers, Plasma east 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Organization

message: : The article mentions occassional talks of a Maritime Union.  Does anyone know what name or names have been proposed for said Union? Nik42 08:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think a name was ever seriously discussed, given that the concept itself has proven difficult to arrive at, regarding consensus among the provinces.  The name "Maritimes" has been in use since colonial days.  I recall reading where the name "Atlantica" was proposed by journalists and possibly politicians during the last serious attempts during the 1960s, but these discussions resulted in regional inter-provincial cooperation and creation of several institutions rather than a formal union (ie. creation of Council of Maritime Premiers, Maritime Provinces Higher Education Commission, etc...)Plasma east 06:26, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Maritime Union

message: :The entire "politics" section of this article is biased and generated using opinion.  Statements like "All three provinces were governed by provincial Progressive Conservative parties until 2006," are incorrect.  Please ensure that submissions are factual.
Andrewmta 17:45, 8 Feb 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Political Bias

message: I think that its out of date to end the section with decline.  Recover, maybe?  WayeMason 02:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decline is not the end of the story... 

message: I find it highly distressing that there really is no mention to the moratorium that has been placed in the area because of the over fishing of Cod.  This is a huge impact on the region and many people have left or are living in poverty because so much of the economy was wiped out by this.-Bio2590 23:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to it my brother (or sister)... WayeMason 23:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, the Cod Moratorium was not a significant blow to the Maritimes but to Newfoundland which, as is explained in the opening paragraphs, is not a part of the Martimes. - Jord 04:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Time heals all wounds, I guess, but I am pretty sure 12K direct jobs were lost in Nova Scotia alone.  Cod was big on the south shore and french shore... but I have no facts to back that up, so thats why I am not adding it, its just what I vaguely remember.  The economy here was more robust than NLs and it was less jobs, but it was still a big impact...  or so I recall! WayeMason 19:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moratorium

message: What did I hear on the news about a fourth province? I only heard a quick news commercial on CTV and it said something about the maritimes getting a fourth province but I couldnt find the news that discussed it
:You probably saw something about the possibility of Cape Breton Island, part of Nova Scotia, becoming a separate province. There is a separatist group who are trying to make this happen, but in my opinion its very unlikely. Thomasiscool 14:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Province

message: The first sentence is currently
* “The Maritime provinces, also called the Maritimes or the Canadian Maritimes, is a region of Eastern Canada consisting of three provinces, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island.”
Since the article title is currently The Maritimes, common sense and MOS:BEGIN suggest the Maritimes should be the subject of the sentence, which could be done by reversing "Maritime provinces" and "Maritimes" at the beginning of the sentence. An alternative would be leaving that wording as is, but changing the article title to "The Maritime provinces".
Also, if the Maritime provinces denotes a region, rather than a group of provinces, shouldn't provinces be capitalized, as the Maritime Provinces? Currently this article uses Maritime Provinces, Maritime provinces, and maritime provinces. I assume as a region both are capitalized, but beyond that I'm not too clear on what's typical. A quick check of recent New York Times articles, as one source, in a 1981 article wrote about "a trip to the Maritime Provinces", in a 1994 article referred to "the 1840's...in the maritime provinces of Canada", and in a 2003 article wrote "as well as Ontario, Quebec and the Maritime provinces."
Perhaps it should be mentioned that the three terms used in the opening sentence can refer either to a region comprised of the three provinces, or to the provinces themselves, if that's accurate? I'm not that familiar with the topic, but that seems to be what some googling indicates. I'm sure some Maritimers know much more about this than I do.
Agyle (talk) 20:25, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence word order/article title, capitalization of terms 

message: From the intro: "All three provinces are entirely south of the southernmost extremity of Western Canada..."
Western Canada, as linked, includes Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba and Saskatchewan. It seems unlikely that the Maritime provinces are entirely south of the US-Canada border. Is this a typo of "Northern Canada"? Tranquilled (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. its true. All of these provinces are south of the 49th parallel. St. John's, Newfoundland is still slightly to the south of it. Eastern Canada dips quite a bit further down than the west. 75.156.70.214 (talk) 17:19, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latitude 

message: Hi folks, sometime in the next two weeks I am coming with my knife, shovel and bucket and I am going to clean this article up.  To start I will deleted every bit of original work and claims with no sources.  I expect at that point the article will be about 200 words long.  If you are particularly passionate about something in this article now is the time to edit and cite.  WayeMason (talk) 11:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Edit 

message: The 'Politics' section repeatedly essentially talks about how Maritimers only vote for parties like the Liberals or NDP because of handouts and unemployment. The section specifically talks about how French Maritimers vote for those parties because of handouts and unemployment. That is both false, and incredibly insulting (and quite honestly borders on being racist). Acadians (a majority of French Maritimers) vote the way they do because of their personal values. Not for personal benefit. 
Honestly, in general, the whole thing about Maritimers generally being 'socially conservative' needs a big re-think, especially looking at the last few decades of elections. If nothing else, it's an odd thing to highlight, as it may very well not be true. It genuinely feels like someone not from here who has a dislike of the region wrote this section. At the very least, a review would be advisable. 47.54.6.123 (talk) 04:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Political Section - Strange, un-cited assumptions