Talk:Fatah al-Islam

message: Are the two groups linked. Sources from Arab media say no sources from American say yes. In my experience Al-Jazeera and Lebanese TV do a better job at this type of conflict than CNN and FOX. NPR says they only share the same ideology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.159.146.17 (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure. The current article says that they "draw inspiration from al-Qaeda," which is slightly vague but neutral. — George Saliba [talk] 22:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al-Qaeda 

message: I suggest that the importance rating of this article should be changed from 'Low' to 'Mid' since it seems to fit that category in the WikiProject Lebanon Importance scale. Since the group is now engaged in a 3 day battle with the army and is appearing in international news.  Any objections? -Zer0fighta 20:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance rating 

message: Since the Fatah and Fatah al-Islam are different organizations, shouldn't this be pointed out in the introductions to avoid confusion? I am not sure how to do this correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.164.136.72 (talk • contribs) 
:I added something at the top of the page. Is that what you had in mind? Or do you think it should be clearer. Tiamut 23:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed a bit. It is now in the leading part of the article as the article Fatah can more easily be found than this one. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fatah and Fatah al-Islam 

message: Seems like Bahia al-Hariri admitted to have (at least indirectly) funded Fath al-Islam, and Jund al-Sham for certain. Any sources on this? Funkynusayri 19:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hariri funding 

message: It seems to me that the "conquest of Islam" isn't a great translation, as reading that it is unclear whether Islam is the one doing the conquesting of the one being conquested, whereas I think the Arabic is clear that Islam is the one that is conquesting, not the one being conquested. Any comments or ideas for a better translation? Or maybe it's not really that important? Alyssay (talk) 15:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of Fath al-Islam to Conquest of Islam 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "Leopold" :
** Evelyn Leopold. > "Syria says militants in Lebanon work for al Qaeda." AlertNet
** Evelyn Leopold. > "Syria says militants in Lebanon work for al Qaeda." 
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message: I think the first sentence needs revising: "Fatah al-Islam [...] is a radical Sunni Islamist group, trained and funded by the U.S government [2] [3] and Saudi Arabia, that first formed in November 2006."
1. The second source ([3]) is redundant, as it is solely based on the first source.
2. While this is definitely worth mentioning, I think it should at least be rephrased or getting a dedicated section. The first line should provide a summary of the most distinctive attributes of the subject.
This description gives a false impression, suggesting that the group is basically funded and trained by those two states. Let me depict the situation, as stated in the sources: According to the cited New Yorker article (whose truthfulness I don't want to contend), the (Lebanese) Siniora government received funds from the U.S. to combat groups such as Hezbollah. Siniora used that money among other things to fund groups hostile towards Hezbollah, such as Fatah al-Islam. Thus, U.S. money went towards this group. The group was made up partially of veterans, trained by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia in the Afghan war against the USSR, but this must have happened no later than in the 80s.
While this is a good example of how uncareful training and financing efforts can backfire, this sentence suggests much more intent than the result of ricocheting and badly planned endeavors.
Makrom (talk) 20:36, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now removed it from the introduction and created a new section, explaining the circumstances more detailed. I felt this was necessary in order to avoid a wrong impression and putting it in the right context.Makrom (talk) 04:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. Funding 

message: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/04/23/in-syria-lebanons-most-wanted-sunni-terrorist-blows-himself-up/ FunkMonk (talk) 17:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role in Syrian insurgency 

message: *"Fatah al-Islam" Islamist gets About 673 results
*"Fatah al-Islam" jihadist gets About 418 results.
GregKaye ✍♪ 19:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description 

message: The article was updated recently (diff) to state that the group "had largely become in active [sic]" as of 2015. While multiple sources report that the group has weakened, I did not find any supporting the claim of inactivity. On the contrary, the group was "still a factor in Lebanon" in 2014 (source) and took part in clashes in the Ain al-Hilweh refugee camp as recently as August 2015 (source). I replaced the unsourced claim with sourced content (diff). -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Active status 

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