Talk:Bert Trautmann

message: "One such practical joke involving a car backfired on Trautmann, resulting in a staff sergeant burning his arms." 
(Given that a car made to backfire as a practical joke can cause burns to the arms means the sentence is confusing especially if as seems likely the practical joke involved some other aspect of the car - basically explain better but certainly leave out the word `backfired' unless that was the actual practical joke with the car).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change this confusing sentence 

message: In 1964 he finished his career with a testimonial in front of a crowd of 60,000 people, not bad for a German whom no one had originally wanted. At this testimonial Bobby Charlton, the captain of the English national team, called him one of the greatest goalkeepers ever.
I'm changing this to Bobby Moore, as I presume this is who was meant - in 1964 Jimmy Armfield of Blackpool FC captained England against Scotland on 11th April, Ron Flowers of Wolverhampton Wanderers captained England against the USA on 27th May, Wales on 18th November, and the Netherlands on 9th December. All other England matches that year were captained by Bobby Moore (v Uruguay, 6th May; Portugal, 17th May; Republic of Ireland, 24th May; Brazil, 30th May; Portugal, 4th June; Argentina, 6th June; Northern Ireland, 3rd October; and Belgium, 21st October). (England Football Online) -- Arwel 15:24, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Testimonial 

message: There was no Football League Fourth Division until 1958 so how could he have played in that division post-war? Cutler 12:28, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)
:Dunno. Obviously someone couldn't conceive of a lower standard of football! According to the timeline] at St Helens Town's unofficial website, the club was reformed in 1946 and played in the Liverpool County Combination from 1946 until it was promoted into the Lancashire Combination Division 2 in 1949. I've changed the article appropriately. -- Arwel 17:09, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual problem 

message: I know very little about this guy, but I pretty sure that his father is not Snoop Dog  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.180.202 (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual problem 

message: There is evidence to suggest that Trautmann spent some time in the Northumberland village of Wylam as a POW prior to being moved to the Manchester area. It is also suggested that Trautmann played for local teams whilst located in Wylam. See (Brooks P.R: 1998) "Wylam Past - A Pictorial History of a Northumberland Village" p.45.
Anyone know any more about this?
He was never moved to the Manchester area.  He was in Essex, Northwich, Ashton in Makerfield, Milnthorpe and Huyton.  Never Manchester.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.205.195 (talk) 22:24, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  POW Camp 

message: Bert Trautmann was never "red carded" as red and yellow cards did not come into use until the 1970 World Cup (See Penalty card). Even if one argues that this is a metaphor for being sent off, it introduces a sense of accidental - and potentially misleading - anachronism.  I have changed it to "being sent off."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 (talk) 20:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely right, good spot. Oldelpaso (talk) 15:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronism 

message: Ath the end of the second paragraph:
He had died twenty days later after smoking pot. He was using soda powder.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.163.29.116 (talk) 14:49, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this belong into the article? 

message: In the box "Personal Information" on the Article page his date of birth 22 October 1923, correct enough, but then added in brackets: (aged 86).
Somehow I don't think that is right and we cannot edit!
Can this obvious mistake be corrected? It may cause embarrassment.
MacOfJesus (talk) 18:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't see what the problem is. Most personal infoboxes will calculate the person's age. Nothing to be ashamed of in being 86, I'm glad he's still around and in the unlikely event that he sees this, happy birthday Bert. Great article, one of the most interesting FA's I've read in some time.yorkshiresky (talk) 19:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

text: It was vandalism, and was removed. Bert is alive and well. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Information 

message: I wonder if Bert Trautman ever reads this page.
If so, I'd like to ask him a question. (Anyone else who knows the true story may also answer this one).
Which pow camp was Bert Trautman at?  
It is claimed 'locally' that he was in Garswood Park Camp, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire.  It is also claimed that he was in a camp in Huyton, Lancashire.
Now, on this page, someone suggests another camp. 
It's written that he played for Garswood Park against Haydock Park in 1946.  Garswood Park camp closed in April, 1948.  It is written that he was released in 1948 and played for Manchester city in 1949.
This doesn't give him much time to have played for St.Helens Town, does it?
As it is, everybody's dad played against him, scored against him, had a pint with him, was his mate etc. etc. etc.
So, over toyou Bert. What's the truestory?
92.239.71.235 (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual Problem (another one) 

message: The introduction states that Trautmann made 545 appearances for Manchester City, but only 508 can be seen in the infobox. The introduction also states that the DFB's development scheme sent him to Burma, Tanzania and Pakistan, but Burma, Liberia and Pakistan are in the infobox. If the 545 appearances also include cup games, could this be mentioned? And what's with Tanzania/Liberia? Can someone check and correct the information? Many thanks. Jared Preston (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: It would be great if someone could create the line-ups for the 1956 FA Cup Final and include it in the article. -- Linksfuss (talk) 10:25, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The team line-ups are shown at 1956 FA Cup Final#Details. Interesting information, but I think it would be off-topic to include it in an article about the life of one of the players. – Wdchk (talk) 15:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  1956 FA Cup Final 

message: Anybody know where Bert was buried or cremated? I've looked everywhere, no joy.Fletcherbrian (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Manchester Evening News in a piece published in July, shortly after his death: "Trautmann’s third wife Marlis and his family plan to scatter his ashes over the sea in Valencia, where he spent his final years, on October 22 which would have been his 90th birthday." Oldelpaso (talk) 18:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Bert's remains 

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message: In his 'Early life' section I notice a citation need placed against his having taken part in YMCA activities. Was the YMCA allowed to function in Germany after the Nazi takeover in 1933 (the year he turned 10 yrs old), I am aware that ultimately youth organisations outside the Hitlerjugend and BDM, notably the Boy Scouts, were outlawed for the duration.Cloptonson (talk) 06:22, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: YMCA?

message: I've uploded two photos of Trautmann on Wikimedia Commons that I took myself in October 2010. If anyone wants to 
use them in the article: feel free! See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bert_Trautmann Jörg Zägel (talk) 20:59, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos of Trautmann