Talk:Nathan (son of David)

message: This is one of the most stunningly unencylopedic articles I've ever had the misfortune to read 129.67.21.53 (talk) 22:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. This  article is clearly written by an acolyte of Meshichist Lubavitch. Tomertalk 20:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I wanted to read an article about Nathan, and all I found was a polemic about whether the messiah was a descenant of Nathan or Nathan's wife or Solomon, and a final comment about Jesus. This needs to be re-written entirely and with assertions in Neutral language. Otherwise I will VFD.82.6.29.26 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Relevance!!!

message: I have to protest about the claim of Jesus' lineage in Luke as being the maternal lineage of Jesus. There's absolutely no evidence for this, biblically. The Luke Lineage does not mention Mary at all. The Luke Lineage is claimed to be a maternal lineage only by apologists trying to avoid contradiction with the lineage in Matthew. I suggest that the reference to a maternal lineage be deleted. 72.204.20.116 (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As a matter of fact, after reading the entire article, I suggest deleting everything except the first and last paragraphs. The rest is just apologies for the lineages of Luke and Matthew being contradictory. I further suggest that any apologetics concerning Jesus' lineage should have an article of its own. 72.204.20.116 (talk) 16:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Maternal Lineage

message: It needs to clarify from the get-go that Kings and Chronicles differ. Kings mentions only one elder brother of Solomon (the unnamed child who died shortly after birth). Also, the article presumes that Nathan is the elder brother of Solomon although this is not direct stated in the text. I suggest calling him merely the "brother" of Solomon in the opening sentence and then proceeding to describe objectively what both texts say. 72.66.91.113 (talk) Dan Fefferman  —Preceding undated comment added 01:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Please make this article more transparent

message: ..This fits even better with the word used in the Aramaic (Syriac) text "gavra" (transliterated), which literally means "mighty man," and would be used of the head of a household. ref Wierwille, V. P. Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed, American Christian Press, 1982, Chapter 10 The Genealogy of Jesus Christ. ref  As Mary was not yet married to Joseph, it might be supposed that the head of her house was her father. This clears up the issue of 2 missing generations from the last set of 14 in the series.
:::I cut this as doesn't seem to be an academic source. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:10, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[V.P. Wierwille]] on "gavra"

message: This article states Nathan is Solomon's older brother. 1 Chronicles 3:5 lists the four surviving sons of Bathsheba as Shimea, Shobab, Nathan, and Solomon, as does 1 Chron 14:4. The David article appears to follow the order in Chronicles. However, the Solomon article says he was "the second born child to David and his wife Bathsheba", after the first died shortly after birth. The Jewish Encyclopedia says Solomon was their second son., as does the Catholic Encyclopedia. There appears to be an inconsistency between this article and that of his (older/younger?) brother Solomon. Mannanan51 (talk) 01:39, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second, third, or ? 

message: Early in the article it says that Nathan was an older brother to Solomon. I have never seen that anywhere else even implied, and later in the article it specifically points out that Solomon was listed last in the scripture passage quoted, due to importance. That is a literary technique that you will find used sometimes. 216.139.105.109 (talk) 21:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictions