Talk:2007–08 Manchester United F.C. season

message: Hi, I hope the Fb templates are been helpful. Improvements are welcome and will be useful for all other articles that are using them. If anyone finds a possible improvement, please use the template's talk page to discuss it. Thanks. --ClaudioMB 18:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To be quite honest, no they're not helpful. All the transcluded data makes the page take ages to load, and there is an awful lot of useless information on the page at the minute. Please see articles such as Manchester United F.C. season 2005-06 and Manchester United F.C. season 2006-07 for what a club's season article should really be like. - PeeJay 22:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll discuss here just about the templates. Yes, using this templates makes the page loading a bit longer, in my experience, 1 second, what I believe is acceptable for readers. About been helpful, I'd like to ask if there is any changing in the templates that could make them helpful for you. Also, if you or anyone else feels a new column should be added to any table (like attendance in Manchester United F.C. season 2006-07), that could be done. Originally, match tables didn't have scorers, but after someone suggested, it was added as an optional column. I personally don't like a scorers column, because already exist a link to the match report, but if someone wants to keep the column updated, it's ok. Regards. --ClaudioMB 17:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fb templates

message: Since all information in the infobox is in the article, is there a real need for that infobox?--ClaudioMB 15:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: This article needs re-writing to align it with previous seasons - at the moment it is a complete mess JPMJPMJPM 21:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-Write

message: This discussion is grouped here with other similar articles. Please, participate. Regards. --ClaudioMB 01:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Standard date format

message: There is a discussion about Manual of Style for club season articles that could after this article, you could participate here.--ClaudioMB 16:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Manual of Style for club season articles

message: We need to sort out the headings, there needs to be an extra column added for Community Shield, as it adds to the total, but I d onot know how to add it. It could be in the form of an "other competitions" heading? Andre666 19:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, a table like the one used in all the other Manchester United season articles would be much better. In fact, I think this whole article needs a re-vamp to standardise it with the other Manchester United season articles. - PeeJay 19:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I volunteer myself, I can do it very soon, tomorrow after I finish college. Andre666 20:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, I;ve updated it now, is it up to scratch? I kept the current sports event banner at the top of the article so that visitors know that this will be updated regularly. I think it is a lot better now. Andre666 22:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm changing the templates to accept a 5th competition.--ClaudioMB 22:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I didn't enter the appearances and goals, someone have entered before and I don't know if they are right. --ClaudioMB 23:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squad Stats needs sorting out 

message: Removing this request for comment because a Wikipedia:Third opinion request (already made) seems to be more suitable to this dispute. --ClaudioMB 01:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment: page's layout change  

message: I was just thinking, should this article have a disciplinary record section, like the one on the Barcelona article? See this: FC Barcelona 2007-08 season#Disciplinary record. I thought I'd ask before I put it there, as it is only there as part of the other layout, which I think I prefer again! Andre666 18:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll see if I can figure out a way to shoehorn in a disciplinary record section. - PeeJay 22:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put one in there but hidden it, take a look. Andre666 23:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, yeah, I saw that. I'll see if I can make one that's more in-keeping with the tables that are already in the article. - PeeJay 23:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, that is what I was concerned about really, maybe it should look like the Squad Statistics section? I'll try and make one up for you to look at to, you don't have to use it. Andre666 07:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice one, buddy. I may have to pinch the style of table used in one of my old Man Utd yearbooks. - PeeJay 09:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disciplinary Record section? 

message: I spent a lot of time sorting this out and formatting it so please discuss before deleting/editing. What do you think? It's just a tiny bit of code which provides that little bit more information. Also, I centered all the text except for the number, position and name, what do you think? Andre666 18:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it. It would be nice to have a separate table so that we could see which competitions the cards were picked up in, but this is a brilliant solution to a problem that needed solving. - PeeJay 19:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that too, but it would conflict with the layout according to previous season articles, and I think this is plenty. Andre666 21:06, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disciplinary records weren't included in previous seasons articles merely because I forgot about them. One extra table would be fine, IMO, but like you say, this is probably plenty. - PeeJay 21:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disciplinary record integrated into squad stats 

message: Why has the infobox logo been removed? This seems totally unnecessary! Andre666 18:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a rationale for this page (and all other Manchester United seasons articles) to :Image:Manchester United FC.png, so hopefully it won't get removed this time. - PeeJay 18:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox logo removed? 

message: Should fixtures that are yet to be played be included in the season article? Surely if this was the case then all future games should be included, for every competition. This should not be the case, fixtures should be hidden (not deleted), but nonetheless hidden. Am I wrong? Andre666 21:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tbh, I'm not sure what the rules are for the FA Cup. I know we're not allowed to post the fixtures for the Premier League, but it may be OK for the FA Cup and the Champions League. My understanding is that it's ok to put up the next fixture, but not the whole fixture list. – PeeJay 22:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is allowed, but is it completely necessary?? Andre666 20:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say so. If the fixture has been given a definite date, and it's not covered by copyright laws, then it should be included as it's part of the season. – PeeJay 20:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA Cup Fixtures 

message: Hi, I've made a calendar for my club on the french wiki (see below). I don't try risky things such as putting it on Manchester season article, but I find it so beautiful (and also, I feel a big egocentric too), that I ask you if you'd like something like that on this article:
 	Juillet 	Août         	Septembre 	Octobre     	Novembre	Décembre    	Janvier      	Février	Mars      	Avril       	Mai     	Juin
1     	dim.    	mer.         	Lille     	lun.        	jeu.    	sam.        	mar.         	ven.   	Sochaux   	mar.        	jeu.    	dim.
2     	lun.    	jeu.         	dim.      	mar.        	ven.    	Valenciennes	mer.         	sam.   	dim.      	mer.        	ven.    	lun.
3     	mar.    	ven.         	lun.      	mer.        	Monaco  	lun.        	jeu.         	dim.   	lun.      	jeu.        	Caen    	mar.
4     	mer.    	Nancy        	mar.      	Loko Sofia  	dim.    	mar.        	ven.         	lun.   	mar.      	ven.        	dim.    	mer.
5     	jeu.    	dim.         	mer.      	ven.        	lun.    	mer.        	Martigues    	mar.   	mer.      	Bordeaux    	lun.    	jeu.
6     	ven.    	lun.         	jeu.      	Paris S-G   	mar.    	jeu.        	dim.         	Espagne	jeu.      	dim.        	mar.    	ven.
7     	Angers  	mar.         	ven.      	dim.        	mer.    	ven.        	lun.         	jeu.   	ven.      	lun.        	mer.    	sam.
8     	dim.    	mer.         	Italie    	lun.        	Brann   	Strasbourg  	mar.         	ven.   	Paris S-G 	mar.        	jeu.    	dim.
9     	lun.    	jeu.         	dim.      	mar.        	ven.    	dim.        	mer.         	Auxerre	dim.      	mer.        	ven.    	lun.
10    	mar.    	ven.         	lun.      	mer.        	sam.    	lun.        	jeu.         	dim.   	lun.      	jeu.        	Toulouse	mar.
11    	mer.    	Marseille    	mar.      	Niort       	Bordeaux	mar.        	ven.         	lun.   	mar.      	ven.        	dim.    	mer.
12    	jeu.    	dim.         	Écosse    	ven.        	lun.    	mer.        	Marseille    	mar.   	mer.      	Lyon        	lun.    	jeu.
13    	Le Mans 	lun.         	jeu.      	Îles Féroé  	mar.    	jeu.        	dim.         	mer.   	jeu.      	dim.        	mar.    	ven.
14    	sam.    	mar.         	ven.      	dim.        	mer.    	ven.        	lun.         	jeu.   	ven.      	lun.        	mer.    	sam.
15    	dim.    	Saint-Étienne	sam.      	lun.        	Guingamp	Caen        	mar.         	ven.   	Le Mans   	mar.        	jeu.    	dim.
16    	lun.    	jeu.         	Lorient   	mar.        	Maroc   	dim.        	mer.         	Lille  	dim.      	mer.        	ven.    	lun.
17    	Cannes  	ven.         	lun.      	Lituanie    	sam.    	lun.        	jeu.         	dim.   	lun.      	jeu.        	Nancy   	mar.
18    	mer.    	Nice         	mar.      	jeu.        	dim.    	mar.        	ven.         	lun.   	mar.      	ven.        	dim.    	mer.
19    	Bruges  	dim.         	mer.      	ven.        	lun.    	mer.        	Saint-Étienne	mar.   	mer.      	Valenciennes	lun.    	jeu.
20    	ven.    	lun.         	Loko Sofia	Le Mans     	mar.    	Din Zagreb  	dim.         	mer.   	jeu.      	dim.        	mar.    	ven.
21    	sam.    	mar.         	ven.      	dim.        	Ukraine 	ven.        	lun.         	jeu.   	ven.      	lun.        	mer.    	sam.
22    	dim.    	Slovaquie    	sam.      	lun.        	jeu.    	sam.        	mar.         	ven.   	Lens      	mar.        	jeu.    	dim.
23    	lun.    	jeu.         	Sochaux   	mar.        	ven.    	Toulouse    	Nice         	Lorient	dim.      	mer.        	ven.    	lun.
24    	mar.    	ven.         	lun.      	mer.        	Lyon    	lun.        	jeu.         	dim.   	lun.      	jeu.        	sam.    	mar.
25    	Caen    	Metz         	mar.      	Bâle        	dim.    	mar.        	ven.         	lun.   	mar.      	ven.        	dim.    	mer.
26    	jeu.    	dim.         	Clermont-F	ven.        	lun.    	mer.        	Metz         	mar.   	Angleterre	Strasbourg  	lun.    	jeu.
27    	ven.    	lun.         	jeu.      	sam.        	mar.    	jeu.        	dim.         	mer.   	jeu.      	dim.        	mar.    	ven.
28    	Bordeaux	mar.         	ven.      	Lens        	mer.    	ven.        	lun.         	jeu.   	ven.      	lun.        	mer.    	sam.
29    	dim.    	Auxerre      	sam.      	lun.        	Hambourg	sam.        	mar.         	ven.   	sam.      	mar.        	jeu.    	dim.
30    	lun.    	jeu.         	dim.      	mar.        	ven.    	dim.        	mer.         	       	Monaco    	mer.        	ven.    	lun.
31    	mar.    	ven.         	          	Valenciennes	        	lun.        	jeu.         	       	lun.      	            	sam.    	
 	Juillet 	Août         	Septembre 	Octobre     	Novembre	Décembre    	Janvier      	Février	Mars      	Avril       	Mai     	Juin
dim.        	Jour sans match         	dim.        	Mise à disposition des internationaux	        	
Nancy       	Match à domicile        	Nancy       	Match à l'extérieur                  	Nancy   	Match sur terrain neutre
Valenciennes	Match de Ligue 1 Orange 	Valenciennes	Match de Coupe de la Ligue           	SK Brann	Match de Coupe UEFA
Guingamp    	Match de Coupe de France	Guingamp    	Match amical                         	Cannes  	Match de tournoi amical
sam.        	CAN 2008                	sam.        	Euro 2008                            	Écosse  	Match de l'Équipe de France A
:I'm afraid we can't use anything like that for English league fixtures, as they are copyrighted as the intellectual property of the Premier League. Nice idea though. – PeeJay 21:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match calendar 

message: The Football League only includes the Championship, League One and League Two, so on this article (it should be every article back to 1992-93) I have changed the phrase "the Football League" to "the Premier League" and changed the number. If you have an issue with this, please state it here, as it needs to be resolved. Andre666 (talk) 13:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of "the Football League" to "the Premier League" 

message: I feel that the match details for each match should be linked to BBC reports because they are a lot more professional and the MUFC offical site reports are spread over five pages usually which means that they are less comfortable to go through. Also, the MUFC reports are usually quite biased towards their own club whearas the BBC are neutral. Anyway, I won't do anything about this because nobody really cares what I say lol. (Piyush05 19:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno, I think the Man Utd reports are more appropriate as this is a Man Utd article. – PeeJay 19:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't consider a football club's website to be a reliable source for match reports. Transfers, etc. yes, but an external publisher would be far more appropriate for matters of opinion. Dancarney (talk) 11:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Match Details Links from MUFC site

message: I feel the cleanup on the transfer out is unnecessary because
Oldham Athletic F.C. are not known as Oldham Athletic A.F.C. only the operating company is (see Leeds United 2007 Limited )
Citing BBC over another source should be done on merit not for the sake of personal preference or choice and if you typed "Kieran Lee" into google news the 5th entry is SkySports  BBC news does not even feature. secondly skysports is the only "impartial" entry in the google news output in the top 5 and the size and comprehensive size dwarfs BBC news entries and others on the google list.
PheonixRMB (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First, the title of Oldham Athletic's article would disagree with you on that first count, as it is located at Oldham Athletic A.F.C. Second, the only reason the reference was changed was because I was in the middle of an edit that included that reference, but I was called away before I could submit it. When I got back, I submitted the edit, only to be confronted with an Edit Conflict message. Since the only other difference was the Oldham Athletic link, I decided not to bother checking the Sky Sports reference for validity (as I knew it would be perfectly valid), and went ahead with submitting my edit. I hope I haven't caused offence by doing this. – PeeJay 21:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fairness & impartiality is key no offence taken PheonixRMB (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary "Cleanups" 

message: Don't take this the wrong way ... any particular reason why Gerard Piqué isn't listed on the transfers out? Just curious. ¢rassic! (talk) 03:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just haven't got around to it yet. Sorry. I can do it now. – PeeJay 08:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. :) ¢rassic! (talk) 09:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piqué move to Barca 

message: I recommend that all the existing match reports on this page, ie those published by Manchester United, be replaced as the links have all expired. I will most likely do it myself later, but if someone else wants to do it then ta. Imlikeaboss (talk) 22:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Match reports