Talk:Don't Stop Believin'

message: The single cover clearly says "Don't Stop Believing," with a "g." Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 20:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move?

message: It appears that in the “Return to popularity” section is biased to the White Sox. I feel that this page should not focus on this one team because there are many other sports teams both pro and amateur that use this song for inspiration or a rally cry. Natural number is e 00:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Biased?

message: This article really doesn't say anything about the song itself, just 
pop culture uses.
68.54.224.31 03:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, there is nothing about the plot of the song. If anyone knows anything, please add.  Skiendog (talk) 00:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Information About Song/Plot

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Don't Stop Believing.jpg

message: The last sentence of that section reads horribly.Beach drifter (talk) 07:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: south detriot/trivia

message: *In the 1998 comedy film The Wedding Singer the song is played in a string quartet featured at Robbie Hart's wedding in which he is left standing at the altar.
*In 2002, on the Soul Food episode "In Transition", the song plays on Teri's car radio as she puts the key in the ignition, minutes after she has been fired from her job as partner in a small Chicago law firm.
*On the South Park episode "Tsst," Cartman sings "Don't stop believin', hold on to that feelin'" while hooking up his Xbox 360.
*The song is also featured in a Scrubs episode from 2003 entitled "My Journey," in which J.D. reveals that he is "a closet Journey fan." and sings it with Turk. It is also used as non-diegetic (background) music during the closing sequence with J.D.'s narration featuring Elliot on a train.
*In the 2003 motion picture Monster, featuring Charlize Theron, the song is played as a sort of love theme and also during the end credits.
*On June 5, 2005, the Family Guy episode "Don't Make Me Over" first aired. In the episode, Peter Griffin and friends Quagmire, Joe, and Cleveland sing this song karaoke-style in a bid to attract attention to save their favorite bar, The Drunken Clam. The sound of the song attracts most people within hearing range, even luring a few mourners carrying a casket to drop it and run off to the bar ("Is that Journey? Kick ass!"). In the days following the Family Guy episode, an episode of Laguna Beach featured the song as well. As a result, "Don't Stop Believing" slowly crept up to the number 2 most downloaded song on iTunes.
*During the 2005 Major League Baseball postseason, the Chicago White Sox adopted "Don't Stop Believing" as their unofficial theme song.
*On an episode of The Late Show with David Letterman, the song was used for a skit of how the media portrayed Letterman's quintuple-bypass surgery.
*In the 2006 comedy film Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby, featuring Will Ferrell, the song is featured in the trailer.
*For their spring 2006 tour, Swedish band The Sounds played the song before they took the stage to get the audience hyped up.
*Symphonic Epic Metal band Northern Kings featuring Jarkko Ahola (from Teräsbetoni), Marco Hietala (from Nightwish and Tarot), Tony Kakko (from Sonata Arctica) and Juha-Pekka Leppäluoto (from Charon) covered "Don't Stop Believin'" as the first song on their album called Reborn in 2007. 
*In September 2007 SURFC (Stirling University Men's Rugby Club) adopted it as their theme for the 2007/2008 season, which brought much success both on and off the field.
*The 2007 Nature's Classroom theme song for OHMS.
*The Ray Foley Show on Today FM ran a campaign to get it to the top of the download charts and into the overall chart. They succeeded in both.
*The song was played briefly in the 2007 Christmas television special Shrek The Halls. Shrek and Fiona are about to dance to the song, but Pinocchio cuts in to dance with Fiona and starts singing the words 'Don't Stop Believing'.
*The song was featured heavily in the 2008 film Bedtime Stories, appearing in the story sequences and playing over the end credits.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.50.60.52 (talk) 18:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture references

message: I've wondered if there is a place in the article for occurrences when the song has been incorrectly referred to by another name. I did not think it was here, so I reverted it. Qaddosh (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Thought 

message: What is the standard for notability of information in the 'Popularity' Section? A bit about a Rascal Flatts cover I don't agree with being listed, but in the spirit of WP:AGF, I will leave it be until someone perhaps more experienced than I comes along to look at it. -- Qaddosh|talk|contribs 06:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity Section 

message: Kanye West plays this song in his "Glow in the Dark" tour right after he sings "Hey Momma."
: Certainly not of importance, and hardly "trivia". Skiendog (talk) 00:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additonal Trivia 

message: "The song has also become the unofficial anthem of debate, predominately CUSID, where it is played just before midnight, after which the teams advancing to the elimination rounds are announced." This seems somewhat irrelevant. The rest of those entries in the "Popularity" section are popular culture. Nobody cares about Canadian debating societies. That "factoid" (might I add, the assertion is not even attributed to any source) is not even listed on CUSID's page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.228.231 (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  CUSID? 

message: "Perhaps its greatest accolade of all however is that it is the most downloaded song of the 20th century in the iTunes Music Store"
Seeing as the iTunes store did not exsist in the 20th century, this is nto true. The iTunes store was begun in 2003, which is the Twenty-FIRST century.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyQuack (talk • contribs) 05:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not most downloaded in the 20th century; 20th century song most downloaded. HenryFlower 16:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed the sentence slightly to reduce the confusion by saying it was the most downloaded song from the 20th century.  Captain Quirk (talk) 11:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes store 

message: The information has to go somewhere, because this song is a Power Ballad, and it really should be mentioned.--F-22 Raptor IV 02:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed from the infobox because the it is not a genre and the field is for genres only. Peter Fleet (talk) 02:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the new location is acceptable--F-22 Raptor IV 02:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Ballad 

message: In the opening paragraph, I think the line "The song is often mistakenly named "Small Town Girl" or "Midnight Train" due to the first couple of verses" is a little too speculative, especially as an introduction to the article. I personally have never heard anyone refer to the song as either of those names. Reference? This just sounds like a random fact someone put in from their own personal, yet obscure, perception of the song. If we choose to leave it in, I think we should at least move it to a section within the article and not at such a focal point up in the opening paragraph. Wildonrio (talk) 22:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it really "..often mistakenly named 'Small Town Girl' or 'Midnight Train'" ? 

message: Okay, so now (with its recent resurgence in popularity), the page mentions the iTunes store and the record-shattering downloads.  Have any of you that keep changing it from the correct "Don't Stop Believin" to the incorrect "Don't Stop Believing" actually been to the site?  You'll see that it's listed correctly as "Believin'".  Does anyone but me not find it just a wee bit strange that Don't Stop Believin' leads you to a freaking cover of the Journey song, which ludicrously indicates "For the original song by Journey, see Don't Stop Believing?  "Don' Stop Believin'" WAS the original title!!!  This has got to be the most pathetic and malingering "non" issue I've ever seen on Wikipedia...
The song page needs to be listed under its correct title, as the band originally, consistently, and ALWAYS listed it.  The picture on this page needs to be replaced with a photo of the original 45 single.  This song has been breaking records on iTunes, yet it is incorrectly credited on the Wikipedia page that tells one this!  For the love of all things holy, go to the official Journey website , and see for yourself.  Just show me where the band lists it as "Believing".  Seriously, this nonsense needs to stop, and every time it is incorrectly changed, rest assured I'll be right along to change it back to the truth. Doc9871 07:02, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beating A Dead Horse To Death 

message: If I had an original 45 single and a camera, there'd already be an image of "Don't Stop Believin'" here.  Can some brave soul do this please?  Please?
The "Don't Stop Believin' (Glee song)" page seems fine - why does an image of the Glee album cover need to be on the page concerning the original Journey song?  It's a cover version that already has its own page; you should feel honored for that alone.  I say keep the Glee image on the Glee page, and get a real picture up for the original Journey tune... 
P.S.: It still says "Talk:Don't Stop Believing" and not "Believin'".  (Sigh) Doc9871 (talk) 07:47, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Glee stuff on this page... 

message: Why on earth does Talk:Don't Stop Believin' (Glee song) redirect here, while the article does not? 115.128.17.21 (talk) 08:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Taken care of.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talkpage redirect? 

message: Since the Glee page was nominated for a merge with this page rather than deletion, the gutted article remains.  The image is gone from the remaining page(!), but all the text is just as it was before.  So now, the page that we went through all this trouble to dispose of is for now in limbo - neither merged nor deleted.  Almost worse than it was before.  I voted for deletion; but soon(?) hopefully "merge" supporters will clear the dead carcass of the troublesome article off the site... Doc9871 (talk) 07:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Merge 

message: Noticed a back and forth on the question of whether or not this is prog rock.  Now my instict would be to say no, but the band itself is listed as prog.  So what's up?  Opinion?  Citations? --Leodmacleod (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO - hell, no, this is not progressive rock.  But then again, the disputed addition and subtraction of genres (as it's only opinion anyway) will never end, and I'm not getting into it... Doc9871 (talk) 03:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  How 'bout.. a progressive ballad?? ...hahaha... My 2 cents, god bless 'em, i dont think they/Journey knew, what was to become the theme or anthem of a generation. Also, the chord progression.. IS quite ah progressive, yet almost classical and jazz-like.. 2602:304:CDAF:A3D0:4545:5EBD:9447:2A0 (talk) 00:49, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progressive Rock? 

message: So here goes the prog rock thing again.  I don't care if it is or isn't.  Really.  I do care about maintaining wiki standards.  I don't have a lot of time at the moment so I was hoping someone could tell me if Amazon.com is a reliable source on genre.  I'm pretty sure it's not.
Also, I'm reverting the latest edit.  I think anyone could figure out what was meant without the wordy explanation.  HOwever, if anyone disagrees and thinks the long one's the good one, I won't object.  --Leodmacleod (talk) 20:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: When I think of progressive rock, I think of Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, and even some Kansas - NOT Journey.  This is just more lame genre-warring, which goes on all the time everywhere.  It's very tiring.  Journey is not Progressive Rock, IMHO... Doc9871 (talk) 20:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I know.  People get all emotionally invested in the labels attached to their music.  Never have understood that.  So amazon.com's not good right?  --Leodmacleod (talk) 20:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I dealt with it ;> Doc9871 (talk) 20:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Journey was Prog until mr. Perry arrived, just listen their first album... but certainly Don't stop believin'(g?) is not. may 2011.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.45.240.207 (talk) 02:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. Journey definitely was progressive rock, and it's listed in their Infobox on the page. I was mistaken in what I said a year ago and learned from another editor. And this song was not what most would consider prog rock. Good catch :> Doc talk 08:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here we go again.... 

message: This song was in 2010 film  The Losers - iirc it was one of the guys singing it loudly with headphones to secure an empty elevator, not sure if the actual song cna be heard, but I think it may have been played at the end of the film also  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.6.145 (talk) 23:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Losers 

message: Can somebody fix this? Is it the best selling in the 20th or 21st? I know the original was release in the 20th but is it supposed to be 21st because the digital copy was released in the 21st (was it? I have no idea). It should be "20th" or "21st", since there is no such thing as "20st". MatttK (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It is the best selling digital song released in the 20st century." 

message: Newt Gingrich just used this song after winning the 2012 South Carolina primaries (or, his campaign selected it for his celebration of the same).  Also, it was used for the Gore-Liberman presidential campaign in 2000.  Not sure if this is worth adding to the article directly, so I offer it here first.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.127.253.7 (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:   Politicians Using This Song 

message: In the intro it says "in the United Kingdom, the song was not a Top 40 hit on its original release; however, it did reach #4 on a 2009 re-release, having gained increased popularity through its use on American television".  But then under Popularity it says that the song was never re-released in the UK, but simply re-entered the charts and reached a peak of 6! 149.154.154.32 (talk) 18:59, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:   UK  

message: Inquiring minds want to know.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.37.102 (talk) 01:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who paid for the Glee ad? 

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message: Can we find something more specific than rock?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.94.57.91 (talk) 21:46, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre