Talk:Executive Outcomes

message: The introductory text hosted on the .mil site contradicts this article's claim that Simon Mann founded EO: "When researching EO, it must be understood that Eeben Barlow, its founder...." It also makes it clear that the company was founded in 1989, not 1993 as the Wikipedia article wrongly states.
It's also worth nothing that the Army page's links are woefully outdated and many, if not most, of the links are dead.
The content seems to concentrate more on Mann than EO, which are distinct entities. From my reading on EO, I can't find evidence that Mann was the sole owner of EO.
What exactly constitutes "making a fortune"? This and other content sounds editorialized, as if the author intends to portray Mann as a nefarious war profiteer. While that may be the case, it should be made clear, rather than hiding under innuendo.
The CNN article (Aug 28, 2004) quoted in the article is a dead link. I tried searching CNN's site, but couldn't find this article. The other article that dealt with the EO scandal published on that date was  http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/08/28/equatorial.thatcher/index.html
I could not find the direct quote on CNN's site. Maybe the link should be changed or updated?
EO was prominently featured in: History Channel "Soldiers for Hire" documentary I took some of the information from that source.
I corrected, rewrote, and updated much of this article because of these issues.
--SamClayton 07:35, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no real conflict between the founding date of 1989 and the date when the company was registered in the UK in 1993 as a limited (LTD) concern. There is an intrinsic difference between founding a company and then officially registering it. There are no real complications with that at all and they are not contradictory. 5.56.31.175 (talk) 13:20, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Founder

message: I'm surprised there's no mention of the merger between EO and Minotaur Information Systems in 2000 according to the South African newspaper, the Dispatch. I'm sure it's the same EO PMC, since it mentions government and parastatal training and recruitment. The merged companies formed a new company called Cosmos.--YoungFreud 19:24, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: → This merger forming a company called Cosmos has nothing to do with Executive Outcomes the Private_military_contractor, but a small recruitment agency in the private sector, which latched onto the name Executive Outcomes to capatilise on the meme of the time. This has nothing to do with the EO of this article and the reference ought to be removed. There is no factual evidence to support the conjecture that this is the same company. Satur9 13:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minotaur Information Systems

message: →→ Also there are no citations for the statement beginning with "Other reports" under the phoenix heading, I am removing the entire section as it is pure conjecture and has no factual basis, unless someone can provide hard evidence of these "reports". Satur9 14:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Northbridge Services bit is referenced under external links, so should stay.Phase4 22:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which external links in particular? Just pointing us to "external links" is not exactly all that useful... — Impi 22:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Phoenix

message: A very good book for this is Bloodsong, by James Hooper which goes alot into the their operation in Angola. I'll try to find my copy and get more info abou this.
Philbentley 04:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Publications

message: As I recall they did a job stopping civil war with 300 men and then the UN came in with 5,000 men and were run off??
Anyone with details?
Gerald
anthropologist  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.186.104 (talk) 00:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memory 

message: I recently read this article and could not determine what the FAA is, even though it is mentioned twice. You can't just throw acronyms in without telling the reader what they are. Even if we understood every acronym used by mankind in every language, how are we supposed to know which FAA this refers to? Hopefully you aren't talking about the FAA that oversees airline passengers here in the states, amazing that EO trained them too!
Spelling errors, unprofessional descriptive adjectives ('including weapons purchased from lucrative sources' - What the hell is a lucrative source!?). This may be the worst wikipedia article written.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.24.8 (talk) 00:42, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAA 

message: :The Commander of the Papua New Guinea Defence Force, Jerry Singirok - who had not been consulted - ordered the detaining of all the mercenaries on their arrival, and forced the Prime Minister Sir Julius Chan with Papua New Guinea coming close to a military coup.[1]
Apart from the link being dead, there's the mystery over what Singirok forced Chan to do. Round up the Mercenaries? Cancel the contract? Kiss on a first date? MartinSFSA (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singirok forced Chan to do what? 

message: The introductory material (before the list of contents) clearly suffers from political bias. Indicators of bias:
* more than half of the introduction focuses on controversies and opinions
* tone and language
* irrelevant discussion of "IMF and World Bank reforms"
I would delete the second and third paragraphs entirely, or at least move them into their own section and edit them heavily to remove the bias.
Anseljh (talk) 06:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: The References are faulty.  For example there are two items 7.  I don't know how to fix them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.49.191 (talk) 20:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Roger (talk) 22:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

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