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Slippery eight loop
Boucle en 8 glissante HFP	Slippery eight loop
Boucle en 8 glissante HFP
         	
Category 	Loop   Boucle, nœud d’oeil
Origin   	Dave Poston
Releasing	Non-jamming  Ne souque pas
The slippery eight loop is an adjustable loop knot discovered by Dave Poston in 2002.
La boucle en 8 glissante est un nœud de boucle ajustable découvert par Dave Poston en 2002.
Information[edit]
The slippery eight loop is known — despite the name — to have an extraordinary ability to not slip and it is extremely secure when the legs are at less than a 90 degree angle. The man who created this knot, Dave Poston, requests that the name of the knot include "HFP" in order to honor his father, who originally introduced him to knots. So the whole name of the knot would be the "HFP Slippery 8 Loop."
Information
La boucle en 8 glissante est connue, en dépit de son nom, pour sa capacité à ne pas glisser et s’avère extrêmement sûre lorsque le dormant et le reste du courant sont à un angle de moins de 90 degrés, sinon le nœud est coulissant. Celui qui créa ce nœud, Dave Poston, demande que le nom de ce nœud inclue « HFP » afin d’honorer son père qui l’a initié aux nœuds. Donc le nom entier de ce nœud sera La boucle en 8 glissante HFP.
Instructions[edit]
The instructions on how to create a slippery eight loop is as follows:
1.     Begin by creating a figure eight knot with one end long enough to be looped through it again
2.     Make sure that the figure eight loop is not tight, but rather quite loose with obvious gaps
3.     Bring the long, working end to the top of the knot
4.     Pass the working end behind the standing line in the knot and feed the end through the Eight
5.     After the working end has been threaded through the knot, pull the knot tight
6.     Adjust the size of the loop by alternately pulling the different ends or one side of the loop
Instructions
Instructions pour élaborer la boucle en 8 glissante HFP :
1)   Pour commencer faites une nœud en huit en ménageant une longueur de courant suffisante pour la boucle
2)   Assurez vous que le huit n’est pas trop serré , mais plutôt détendu et que les boucles soient évidentes
3)   Amener le courant au-dessus du nœud
4)   Passer le courant derrière le dormant et passer le à travers le huit
5)   Quand le courant a traversé le huit, serrer le nœud
6)   Ajuster la taille de la boucle en tirant alternativement les deux bouts ou un côté de la boucle.
I 2A01:CB11:2A3:2D00:B981:29DA:F986:970F (talk) 10:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  french translation
Talk:Pile hitch

message: 'Double Pile Hitch' points here. How does one tie a double pile hitch?  Nuez (talk) 16:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I would imagine the initial turn around the "pile" would be a round turn instead...  Yes, that appears to be the case:  http://notableknotindex.webs.com/pilehitch.html )    Also shown in Budworth's Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots & Ropwork, p. 103.  --Dfred (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from Double Pile Hitch
Talk:Midshipman's hitch

message: How does this knot differ from the taut-line hitch?  The step-by-step pictures look identical in my mind to how a taut-line is tied, and the end result picture looks the same as the picture given on the taut-line hitch page.  -- stubblyhead | T/c 17:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct.  However the very similar adjustable loop knot that ABOK refers to as the Midshipman's hitch (#1799) is actually not the knot currently illustrated here.  See Taut-line hitch#Naming for more information. --Dfred 01:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taut-line hitch?

message: I propose that this page be turned into a redirect to Taut-line hitch.  Given the inconsistent naming issues of these related "three-wrap hitches" (Taut-line hitch, Midshipman's Hitch, Adjustable hitch, Rigger's Hitch, Rolling Hitch, Magnus hitch, etc., etc!) my idea is to have all the forms of these knot discussed on just two pages: Rolling hitch (for those tied around an object or other rope) and Taut-line hitch (for versions tied around the standing part) and attempt to explain everything there.  Objections? --Dfred 01:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed to redirect.  --Dfred 14:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for this page to be a redirect
Talk:Fireman's chair knot

message: The "Handcuff knot" and the "Fireman's chair knot" are different knots.
The "Handcuff knot" is tied off with an "Overhand knot" or "Reef knot" at the second stage on your diagram.
The "Fireman's chair knot" is built upon the "Handcuff knot".
In my opinion, they really shouldn't be on the same page.
-- 144.138.21.175 20:09, 7 August 2005
: OK, have a look now -- I've done a diagram of what I think you mean, and moved part of the page to Handcuff knot. Ojw 19:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The first panel of :Image:Firemans chair knot.png is incorrect and results in a Tom fool's knot instead of a Handcuff knot.  The right loop should be behind the left, in the manner of a clove hitch.  Actually, in order to arrive at the knot in the second panel, the loops have to be made in the other direction (overhand or underhand, depending on which side one considers the standing part) and then crossed-over in the manner of a clove hitch before the loops are pulled through one another.  Hopefully that makes sense.  The same is true for the diagram at :Image:Handcuff knot.png  --Dfred 05:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I replaced the incorrect diagram with a photo of the finished knot.  --Dfred 16:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First panel of diagram is incorrect

message: Current version is at 
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/LocalGovernment/FireandEmergencyServices/FileDownLoad,2138,en.pdf  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.152.206 (talk) 22:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the new location, I've updated the link in the article...  --Dfred (talk) 00:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad reference URL
Talk:Kegel exerciser

message: ----
  == Kegel Image ==
Have procurred an image/permission for the "Betty Dodson Vaginal Barbell", waiting for permissions on a few others. Particularly Kegeltoner2000,Kegelcisor,-Enhansor.
Each one has their benefits. Schlüggell 00:01, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the links again.  Please see WP:EL.  Links to sites selling products are specifically listed as being in violation of Wikipedia's external links policy.  Again, since these devices are widely available, there is little point in linking a handful of online sources for them, particularly since on-line stores selling sexual products tend to be ephemeral.  The Uninvited Co., Inc. 16:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Slotket

message: "For a variety of reasons, slockets were never introduced to take advantage of AMD's transition of their Athlon processors from the Slot A form factor to the Socket A form factor."
Does anyone know what those reasons were?
: At a guess, I'd start with the socketed Athlons and Durons being in some way electrically incompatible with the earlier socket motherboards. Maybe the wrong number of pins, wrong voltage, etc, all of which - whilst not unsurmountable issues - would push the price of an adaptor up to unjustifiable levels (they ran at the same FSB and bus width, so that's NOT the issue). Also I believe there were cooling issues which were what actually did for the slot format, and the slower slot / early socket-A AMDs were already quite radiant beasts with very little overclocking headroom (<10%) unless you used insanity-spec coolers. I built a Duron Socket-A system from scratch in the early 2000s, and it cost me peanuts, especially considering the performance offered by an otherwise fairly modest setup. Given the improvements offered with a newer motherboard, the slight saving of upgrading an old one with a slocket adaptor (certainly more than "just a few dollars" - probably at least $10, or about a quarter that of a whole new board) just wouldn't have been worth it. Those of us using AMDs at the time found the whole bonkers slot-juggling game played by Intel and their followers as amusing as it was inexplicable. But then when you're paying through the nose for rather slow hardware, you'll go to some extremes to wring the very best out of your existing stuff. (Oh how the tables have turned since) 193.63.174.10 (talk) 17:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  lack of AMD slockets
Talk:Dynabook

message: A visionary article appeared in the late 40's or early '50s that described a portable electronic book. I think the author was at MIT. My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I have always thought that the term "Dynabook" was used in that article. RWM  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.17.170 (talk) 21:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dynabook 

message: Has Alan Kay ever mentioned Amazon Kindle in an interview? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 02:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The drawing looks like a Kindle reader 

message: Did alan key envision a touch interface?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.8.169.149 (talk) 16:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  touch interface 
Talk:Šajkača

message: Does (Deliso 2009) really say that it's worn in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro? In my experience, "native" usage of this cap is confined exclusively to Central Serbia. Sure, there might be isolated people elsewhere who worn it, and it certainly got re-popularized in 1990s, but before that it was not worn outside of Serbia proper. Specifically, rural Montenegrins would wear a Montenegrin cap, hardly ever a Šajkača. No such user (talk) 11:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good point. Deliso says "The sajkaca has been Serbian men's national hat since the eighteenth century and, unlike other traditional dress, is still worn by old people in the countryside." I'm assuming this means the Serbian countryside. The bit about Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro comes from the old version  of the article before I rewrote it. Thanks for picking that up. 23 editor (talk) 16:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro
Talk:Newsboy cap

message: Brian Johnson of AC/DC is refered to in the flat cap page with a valid citation as wearing a flat cap, not a newsboy cap  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.235.2.87 (talk) 05:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

message: Is this term appropriate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.199.86 (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chavs 

message: I noticed that the fisherman's cap is lumped into this article.  Is this correct?  The fisherman's cap has a distinct band which the newsboy cap lacks.  As the fisherman's cap is somewhat of an icon of socialism and quite distinctive, shouldn't it get its own article?
The article also characterizes the newsboy cap as having a stiff peak.  Shouldn't the word 'visor' be used as this cap is more traditionally American?  It is obviously a close relative of the British flat cap but does have some minor distinctions.  It seems that the American cap is more often paneled with a button on the crown while the British cap is, as the name suggests, usually constructed with a single piece of cloth comprising the crown and is, well, flat.  It may just be that the articles need to be merged and the (minor) differences discussed there.--SEWalk (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fisherman's Cap
Talk:Maned rat

message: Good job editing this article. I think it would help the readers of this article if you had an updated section on the breeding/reproduction/litter size/etc. of this particular species of rat. Other than that I enjoyed the updates to this article.
-LaurenLwleiden (talk) 03:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bisc 350 Review 

message: This one is actually poisonous and not venomous. It sequesters toxins and doesn't produce venom
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51544443_A_poisonous_surprise_under_the_coat_of_the_African_crested_rat VictoriousBard (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "corrected 'poisonous' to 'venomous'" edit
Talk:Toy Manchester Terrier

message: Perhaps this should be merged and a redirect used? This article states that it is also known as the (I forgot already)Vulture19 (talk) 23:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Breeds are bizarrely complicated... :-) --Hafwyn (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?
Talk:Toy Fox Terrier

message: "However, some are prone to leg calve pert hes and stifle...."
What is this supposed to say? It doesn't make any sense to me. Salty!Talk! 01:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First Paragraph

message: Why is a citation needed for '..."Foiler", the first fox terrier registered by the Kennel Club in Britain, circa 1875-76'  ????
Its in the damn records of British Kennel Club!!!  That's what Kennel Clubs are FOR!!!   Cuvtixo 02:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I want to add information about their temperament and their athleticism. --Lilbballgirly11 (talk) 22:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: toy fox terriers temperment

message: It seems clear from Tenterfield Terrier that it is not the same breed as the Toy Fox Terrier (although it may be the same as, or related to, the Miniature Fox Terrier. If Australians refer to actual Toy Fox Terriers as Tenterfield terriers, it's a misnomer. Unless Haateigh can provide references, I plan to undo their edits.--Curtis Clark (talk) 16:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenterfield Terrier
Talk:Toy Bulldog

message: There were small ( "dwarf")  Bulldogs as well as Bulldog mixes in England at t hat period of time "British Dogs, Their Points, Selection, And Show Preparation" |Author=W.D. Drury |Date=1903  . English Bulldog crosses were used to create and develop the French Bulldog, referred to as " Toy French Bulldog" or "French Bulldog" as per author of the cited book. Dwarf and small purebred Bulldog puppies were also born time to time, and also could be referred to as "toy bulldogs". However, the smaller variety of the Bulldog had never been established as a breed. Anyway, the weight of the "small" bulldog in the book is "under 35 lbs", and aim is to produce  a 28 Lbs dog. Not 8 Lbs dog.
Modern attempts to create a small version of English Bulldog by crossbreeding results mostly  to production of odd looking mixes that do not resemble the purebred version of this breed.
Suggest leaving a mention of the "Toy Bulldog" for a reference to French Bulldog and Boston Terrier breed history Afru (talk) 16:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  History
Talk:Tibetan Mastiff

message: The article states that the TM is not a true mastiff. By what definition is this statement justified? I am not saying that the TM _is_ a true mastiff, I just think there should be a solid definition of the term. 65.79.173.135 (talk) 13:20, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a "True Mastiff?" 

message: As indicated in the article, the height is said to be "up to 830 cm (330 in)". Factually, this is impossible as there is no land mammal that is close to 27 feet in height.
According to virtually all expert sites, the Bankhar is distinct from the Tibetan Mastiff, rather than it being an alternative/regional name for same. See http://bankhar.org/?page_id=48   Irish Melkite (talk) 19:46, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Height

message: Some Tibetans say Mongols bring this dog in Tibet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.201.31.177 (talk) 01:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: These guys are sick about the origin and breed type  there are separate type of opinions in the same article one saying it is one of mastiff type  in the introduction and another paragraph (Name) saying it is not a true mastiff type. About the photo none of it is about the aboriginal type the the articles is about Tibetan Mastiff history, all the articles and photos are about modern Tibetan Mastiff. No one is allowed to write about the history about the Tibetan dog even they don’t consider the articles of  Don Messerschmidt making clear about the mystery of the mastiff big as donkey as a reference  Bikaash (talk) 16:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I agree these dogs are not mastiffs and I have a sources that specifies such, the name is an English misnomer for the breed, no doubt based on their size with little regard for their actual form. This is not unique to the Tibetan Mastiff, a similar example is the Spanish Mastiff. I should be able to introduce something this evening. Cavalryman (talk) 01:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin
Talk:Tenterfield Terrier

message: I shall be amazed if anyone can find a photograph of this mythical 'breed'  - I have never read such tripe in my life!!--86.144.135.89 16:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the article says, you can find the ankc standard for the breed on the ankc website. --Bcsr4ever 13:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mythical Breed

message: A better photo is greatly needed for the infobox.--Hafwyn (talk) 22:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Mokoniki (talk) 01:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Removed "surviving this harsh country without pampering" because it is plagiarized. The epic WolfShadow9192! (talk) 07:08, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits
Talk:Sloughi

message: How well does the Sloughi get along with other sight hounds like the whippet, italian greyhound, and the chart polski? If i get one I would'nt want it fighting with my other dogs. So please tell me
Most sighthounds get on fine with other sighthounds in my experience but it varies from dog to dog the same as any other breed. I have a Greyhound an Saluki and a Whippet and they are devoted to each other. Wikipedia isn't really the place to be asking questions like that to be honest. I'm sure you can find some mildly obsessive websites about Sloughis who'll be able to give you a better opinion.188.29.112.105 (talk) 10:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This phrase was used in the Health section; however, no lifespan number(s) was(were) given.
Without knowing a lifespan, the phrase "old age" has no meaning.
So, what is the average lifespan for a Sloughi ? ? ? 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 18:20, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Old age" 

message: Xavier Przezdziecki, a sighthound scholar, in particular of the Sloughi (Les Lévriers 1975; Le Destin des Lévriers 1984) uses “oska” for the Berber sighthound, Sloughi, as well as for the Tuareg Azawakh. He makes (1984) the historic reference to Henri Duveyrier's: Exploration du Sahara: Les Touâreg du nord 1864, (page 224: le lévrier, ôska …) https://archive.org/details/explorationdusa00cossgoog/page/n14/mode/2up?q=chien.
A modern Berber recognises the Tamazight word, currently pronounced hoska, in association with the Sloughi as denoting strong and big (personal communication). Expect to see the word in various forms ôska, hoska, oska, in association with both breeds.--Richard Hawkins (talk) 13:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: The importance of being Oska
Talk:Shar Pei

message: Hi,  I added a photo of antique Han Dynasty Chinese art that depicts probably Shar pei dog head profile, and I found the photo on the internet--it was from abroad regarding Chinese art during the Han dynasty, Guangdong province. 
This is not my area of expertise, but I own Shar pei dogs, and I was interested in finding out about their history--I posted the Han dynasty art because I would want to see it.  Also, within an hour, I found ancient art from the Han Dynasty, Guangdong province online from Asia. I found partially blue Fo Dog statues with Shar pei ears at some Buddhist temples, during the Han Dynasty online.  This area of discovering the history of the Shar pei dog seems open and mysterious.  It looks to me like they always had the wrinkles since the Han Dynasty.  I consider them Buddhist temple dogs.  Best of luck for additions to this topic. I do not visit Wikipedia regularly, so if you leave me a message or response, I may not read it right away. HACNY (talk) 19:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYI--I added Han Dynasty Chinese art that depicts probably Shar pei dog head profile. 

message: I propose to merge Miniature Shar Pei into this article. The only reliable source I can find for the miniature version is from Desmond Morris who, in very short entry in his Dogs: the ultimate guide to over 1,000 dog breeds, says they are just a bred down variety of the original. Cavalryman (talk) 00:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I will likely create a section or sub section with the above mentioned book as the primary if not only source used. Cavalryman (talk) 04:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur; a reasonable approach. William Harristalk 08:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal: Miniature Shar Pei 

message: As it stands, the article says basically nothing about the typical personality or temperament of the breed. Seems like a major omission. I don't feel qualified to do it myself, though I do own a part-Shar Pei dog.JohnMason (talk) 23:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Needs a reliable source independent of fanciers. A lot of temperament claims are nonsense made up by breeders to promote the breed. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temperament/personality? 

message: Plural is Shar Pei (no s)
Thanks Wikipedia 
There are two coats
Brush coat- longer variety
Horse coat - short harsh  this variety has curly thin tail
Thanks Wikipedia 2A00:23C5:7B00:601:CDB:75AF:D8AD:F482 (talk) 06:44, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source? Wiktionary says the plural is Shar-Peis and the OED also attests 'Sharpeis'. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shar pei 

message: Photo of Shar Pei:
https://www.ideegreen.it/cane-sharpei-66534.html 93.38.66.168 (talk) 21:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad image quality and the images also need to be licensable. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo
Talk:Phalène

message: As a variation of the Papillion, I don't think it is justifiable that the Phalene has its own article. I think this should be merged with the Papillion. (MacDogald (talk) 10:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Phalene vs Papillion

message: This should be merged with the papillon, they are the exact same dog just with different ear types. SpookMew (talk) 23:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be merged with Papillon. 

message: There is a merge discussion in progress on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs#Phalène which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. Annwfwn (talk) Annwfwn (talk) 17:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress
Talk:Mackenzie River husky

message: If no one objects, I would like to move this page from the lower case Mackenzie River husky to Mackenzie River Husky. Vortex 22:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be in line with all other dog breed standards, this should be done, go for it! (actually, i just will) - Trysha (talk) 23:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalize

message: Do you have any supporting cites for this claim? Who else refers to Mackenzies as "Wolfdogs"? Edgewise 20:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mackenzie River Wolfdog?
Talk:Japanese Terrier

message: Image: homepage1.nifty.com/piicats/nihon2%20(1).jpg
--Portmantoe 00:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic. of Japanese Terrier 