Talk:Languages of France

message: I suppressed the following (from User:206.172.95.184):
The survey AND THESE NOTES do not take in account the very important fact that all the French people who have French as their mother tongue do not all speak the same "French" but speak one of many regional variations. Each region of France has a very typical regional accent, an accent that come from the regional language that was spoken in that region for centuries. In addition, in each region people use words that are not French but come from the regional language. This is very obvious when one travel around France or listen to the TV or radio. What is interesting is that children whose parents immigrated to France also speak French with a strong regional accent.
Different "typical regional accents" (and some specific local words) do not mean that it is not the same French which is spoken through the country. Apokrif 13:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The paragraph I quoted was about "French people" and "regions of France", not Quebec. If You want to know who wrote the text, follow the "history" link. If you think the article is missing the mention of these laws, please edit it. Apokrif 02:18, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Is it possible that you are confusing regional languages with regional accents?  (The "Québécois" you mention also actually looks more like Chiac to me than Québécois)  The Jade Knight 06:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "regional variations" of French 

message: It has been proposed that Languages of Oïl be renamed and moved to Langues d'Oïl. Comments and votes on Talk:Languages of Oïl, please, if you're interested. Man vyi 09:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oïl languages 

message: Can someone please explain what the colors in this big map represent?
:The shades of green cover the extent of Oïl languages, shades of red/pink are Occitan, blue Arpitan, and purple for others, whether Celtic, Germanic, Romance or Basque. Man vyi 07:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. There is no legend, and if you look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Langues_de_la_France.svg, you will see some objections. At any rate, there is no WP:Reliable source for the information thereon. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colored map 

message: I'm translation the article patois for the Hebrew Wikipedia.
It says:
:In France and other Francophone countries, patois has been used to describe non-Parisian French and regional languages such as Breton, Occitan, and Franco-Provençal, since 1643. The word assumes the view of such languages as being backward, countrified, and unlettered, thus is considered by speakers of those languages as offensive when used by outsiders, although speakers may use the term to refer familiarly to their own language (See also: Languages of France.)
I couldn't find sources for this statement neither here nor there. Any help? --Amir E. Aharoni 07:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Patois" 

message: I disagree with this sentence:
"Opponents contend that local languages are often non-standardised (thus making curricula difficult), of dubious practical usefulness (since most are spoken by a small number of people, without any sizable corpus of publications)"
We can say that "oponents contend ... (whatever)" but the sentence "since most are spoken by a small number of people, without any sizeble corpus of publications" seems (or at least it seems to me) to be an appreciation given by the editor and such information, as far as I know, is not true.
According to the English wikipedia:
Catalan -> 9.000.000 speakers
Basque -> 1.063.000 speakers
Occitan -> 1.939.000 speakers
Breton -> 200.000 speakers
Franco-Provençal-> 113.400 speakers
I personally don't think these are "small" numbers of speakers. What we consider a "small number" of speakers?
I think this paragraph should be rewriten.
option 1: "since SOME are spoken by ... "
option 2: "... by samall number of people INSIDE THE FRENCH STATE..." ... and this way data or references should be provided.
etc.
--Monturiol (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way. Regarding the sentence "Opponents contend that local languages are often non-standardised"; considering that this state is false we should point out who is saying that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monturiol (talk • contribs) 20:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional Languages - Controversy 

message: I had the impression that standard German was widely spoken in Alsace-Lorraine. Is this wrong? Dynzmoar (talk) 15:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely right, but it is not spoken as a mother tongue. It is linguistically sufficiently near to the local dialects to make it easy for dialect speakers to acquire knowledge of standard German. Unoffensive text or character (talk) 17:26, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germanic Languages 

message: I assume there is a mistake, is there anyone alive today who actually speak Old Frankish in regular manner in France? I can't find the language in the german article (which is a bit more complete), and strongly suggest to either give refernces or delete the language in the list.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.180.13 (talk) 09:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted it. DeCausa (talk) 15:13, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Frankish 

message: To explain why the total of speakers is at 102% of the French popuplation, the text says that "2% of people have both French and another language as their mother tongue, thus, they are counted twice".
This is wrong, the children are not in the survey. So we don't have an excess of 2% but an excess of 18% of people that are bilingual.
Or perhaps 16% bilingual and 2% trilingual. In any case the 2% is dubious to me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.154.8.12 (talk) 14:34, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  More than 2% bilingual 

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