Talk:Cavalleria rusticana

message: Is this opera considered a verismo style opera? Xlegiofalco 21:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  verismo? 

message: I have rewritten the synopsis. The previous one was quite garbled in places, and not always in complete sentences. Large chunks of it appear to have been taken verbatim from the 1921 edition of The Opera Goer's Complete Guide by Leo Melitz (in a distinctly non-idiomatic translation by Richard Salinger). Voceditenore 22:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Synopsis

message: I have already incorporated some of the items in the former 'Trivia' section of the article into the article itself. Below are those 'Trivia' items which I removed from the article as per WP:Trivia but which may still be useful, either in a future section on films made from the opera or in a discussion of the opera's use as a stereotype of Italian culture.
*A performance of the opera is used as the backdrop for the closing scenes of the film The Godfather Part III and the famous Intermezzo is featured on the soundtrack of the film. The film actually shows segments from the opera out of chronological order, with Turiddu's drinking song coming before Alfio's Aria
*Also heard briefly in the film Avanti!
*"Intermezzo" is used in episode 85, "The Blue Comet," of the HBO series The Sopranos.
Voceditenore 22:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "The opera has been made into film in a number of different versions, including one by Franco Zeffirelli (1982), with Yelena Obraztsova and Plácido Domingo" has now been incorporated into the article's text. Voceditenore 15:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: The article says Santuzza is pregnant.  I know some productions show her that way, but is it really specified in the libretto?
CharlesTheBold 00:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pregnant? 

message: In the following wiki article Vizzini it mentions:
The writer Giovanni Verga used Vizzini as the setting for his Cavalleria Rusticana and Mastro Don Gesualdo, describing places and scenes that are still recognizable (the prickly pears of Cunziria, and in a sloping alley the house of the Trao family).
Is this true?
Gioto (talk) 00:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Setting for Cavalleria rusticana

message: An anonymous editor added the following back in April (since edited for spelling, use of English etc.):
*The 1968 film directed by Åke Falck, with Fiorenza Cossotto as Santuzza, Gianfranco Cecchele as Turiddu, Giangiacomo Guelfi as Alfio and Anna di Stasio as Lucia. (La Scala, Milan conducted by Herbert Von Karajan.)
I don't think this is a true cinematic version filmed on sets, just a televised/filmed version of a stage performance at La Scala. If the latter, it doesn't belong in that section and should be removed. Voceditenore (talk) 09:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a film and not a live performance. If you have a copy you can read about it in the booklet. Anyway, live performances from that time are in black and white, and you can see that their lip-syncing is not perfect, although it's quite good. AdamChapman (talk) 08:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Film versions

message: The first sentence in the performance history doesn't make any sense:
"Cavalleria rusticana was the first opera that Mascagni wrote (although Pinotta only premiered in 1932 was written earlier) and remains the most well known of his 16 operas."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.172.174 (talk) 10:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performance History 

message: To the anonymous IP 79.118.182.229 who keeps re-adding the link to the YouTube video, please stop this. It is a copyright violation. The clip is from a copyright film which was posted at YouTube without permission of the copyright holder. Wikipedia cannot link to such videos. Please read Wikipedia:Restrictions on linking. Even if it were a legal video, it should not be linked within the article's text, but placed in the External links section. Voceditenore (talk) 06:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: YouTube

message: Hello. My browser does not show any excess white space at all when the image faces into the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cavalleria_rusticana&oldid=417466487. Of course each browser seems to take on really weird characteristics sometimes. Any chance of your moving the image to the right side of the page so it faces inward? Maybe you could move it deeper into the section, or something. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the browser, it's the size of the computer screen. If it's a wide-ish screen, huge gaps appear because the text extends so far laterally that the image hangs at two inches below the end of the text in that section. On a computer with a smaller screen, the white space doesn't appear, including on my laptop. An article should have optimum layout and visibility for as wide a range of readers as possible. The fact that the people in the image are facing away from the text, is a very minor aesthetic consideration, compared to leaving the article which big swathes of white space. So no, I don't think it's a valid reason for moving the image to the right. However, I'll try a different placement of the images and see if I can work something out. Voceditenore (talk) 06:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now changed the layout somewhat and the picture is now facing the text, and there are no white spaces. It now indents the Performance history section, but that's preferable to leaving big empty spaces in the article. Voceditenore (talk) 06:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think an advertisement for a radio broadcast, and a relatively minor one at that, belongs in the middle of the synopsis where it has no illustrative value at all. If anything fights chronology, it's putting a 1930's American radio ad in the middle of a plot description set in the 19th century Sicily. I've moved it back to the Performance history section where it does have some illustrative value. That section mentions performances right up to the present day. The ad doesn't fight chronology there. What would be useful is to add some actual material about significant radio broadcasts to the performance history section in addition to the ad. The performance history section is by no means complete. Voceditenore (talk) 09:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Performance History" image 

message: Does anyone agree that the recordings sections has undue weight in this article, and should be split off to a separate "discography" article? 94.226.158.71 (talk) 21:35, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it should definitely be split off. I hadn't realized how large it had become. This has been the standard practice when the discographies get this big. Before (or simultaneously with the split), it would be good to have a brief recording history section per Tosca and La bohème. I hope if the discography is separated out, editors in the area will add it to their watch lists. We seem to be having a lot of trouble recently with an editor who his persistently adding pirate and copyvio recordings to discographies and Recordings sections. See Talk:Tosca discography, Talk:La bohème discography and Talk:Luisa Miller. Voceditenore (talk) 04:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and done the split. See Cavalleria rusticana discography. – Voceditenore (talk) 07:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Recordings 

message: Baffled by the description of Alfio as "village teamster", I investigated. Although this appears in many programme notes (how many copied from Wikipedia?), so does the "carter" I remember from ENO in 1970-something. Both seem to be archaic words, but from WP teamster it's clear that this would not be a traditional Sicilian cart driver. I added a reference to the WP:it article on carrettiere which makes it fairly clear from the photo alone that this would have most likely been a solitary horse (or donkey) pulling Alfio's cart.
Incidentally, the Met Opera describes him as a "wine carter", but I can't find any original sources for this. Of course it's open to a director to change the character of a role...
Imaginatorium (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alfio, carter 

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