Talk:Newtown, New South Wales

message: I am currently testing an automated Wikipedia link suggester. Ran it on this article, here's the output:
* Can link blue-collar: ...w South WalesStanmore.  Originally a blue-collar area, its proximity to the main Camperd...
* Can link King Street: ...e number of cafes, pubs and resturants. King Street and Enmore Road, which branches away fr...
* Can link North Sydney: ...s two municipalities had merged to form North Sydney three years earlier), but nothing came ...
* Can link Anthony Albanese: ...Grayndler, currently represented by Anthony Albanese of the ALP, ...
Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these links may be wrong, some may be right; You can leave positive feedback or negative feedback; Please feel free to delete this section from the talk page.  -- Nickj 06:52, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Wiki Links

message: Guys and girls, this is just plain amazing work you've all put into this article! I am continually gratified by the effort that all the participants of Wikiproject Sydney Suburbs put into these articles. Makes me realise that I need to get off my butt and totally finish my Municipality of Strathfield article :-) So great work and keep it up. You guys rock! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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message: This article looks fantastic! The description of Sydney Park confused me a little - is it actually part of Newtown or not? Alexxx1 (talk/contribs) 22:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I think it is part of Alexandria. Regardless, great page. Takhisis 08:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes and Eveleigh workshops, more part of Redfern and suburb of Macdonaldtown. Michellecrisp 04:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move Brickworks section to St Peters where it rightfully belongs.Michellecrisp 04:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sydney Park 

message: Wow - if general practice and precedence say if a locality in Sydney has an article this size - then every other locality in Sydney deserves an article this size as well?  Surely there is need to edit rather than expand? SatuSuro 04:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, starting to edit. some information is about neighbouring suburbs. the entry looks too much of a travel guide to the Inner West, rather than about the suburb of Newtown itself. Michellecrisp 04:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: is this really worthy of inclusion? doesn't seem notable by Wikipedia standards Michellecrisp 04:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wires away section

message: Obviously this article still needs HEAPS of work. It has become very long -- most of which is my fault, hahah -- and undoubtedly needs to have some sections summarised and hived off into separate articles. I also think the Geography and History sections need to be tightened up and probably reorganised, and there are many repetitions that need to be eliminated, so I will attempt to get that done over the weekend if possible.
I'd really like to get more feedback, as this article is very dear to my heart -- I'm a 20+ year Newtown resident and LOVE my suburb -- but I think it does deserve considerable coverage because of its long history and the many unique features of this suburb and the surrounding area.
Dunks 04:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Surrounding area info should be in entry for that relevant suburb, like I just found reference to a theatre in Marrickville. the Brickworks at St Peters is another example. As I said this is not a Travel Guide to the Inner West article. Wikipedia needs to be consistent between locality entries and is an encyclopaedia. If things are really notable like the history of Newtown then create a separate new article. That is fine within Wikipedia. Michellecrisp 04:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please consider putting more general Inner West info that is not solely related to Newtown in the Inner West entry. Michellecrisp 06:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text:  The amount of KB is not what makes this article too long, is that it is too long to scroll through and read information in a presentable manner, not all the information is equally relevant or notable. For example, The fact is the information about Eveleigh was more detailed than the Eveleigh entry itself, even though the railyards are not even in Newtown! The article of a few days ago was too verbose, and too much minor detail, also contains too much commentary/opinion about the suburb's history. It's not encyclopaedic in parts. It needs to be in a presentable manner and try to fit this criteria. Michellecrisp 12:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. I'm just pointing out that having inappropriate content that needs to be removed is not the same thing as being "too long". JPD (talk) 12:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits, article size, etc 

message: I'm working on a fully referenced rewrite of this section, which I hope to have finished in the next couple of weeks. It will probably be a good deal longer than the current section, so  think it would be best if this is hived off into a new article. I'd would like to know others' opinion on this idea please? Also, should there just be a "See main article" link where the History section is now, or is it preferable to include a short summary version of a few paragraphs length?
Dunks 21:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I was going to suggest the current history section should be mainly put into a separate article too. you can use "see main article" and a paragraph or two summarising history in main article. cheers Michellecrisp 01:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite of 'History' section 

message: went off and left the inuse tag on this article .... no prizes.... --Amandajm 00:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: some stoopid person

message: I am currently living remote from Newtown, without convenient access to Marrickville Library and the local archives. 
I would be really obliged if some "local" did some research on the particular matters that have  tags on them. 
Meanwhile, here goes with another grouch :- 
*There are editors on Wikipedia whose main contribution is to storm around deleting things that other editors write, and adding  tags. 
:It is infinitely more trouble and effort to search for an appropriate reference online, or even at the library, than it is to add a tag. 
::However, there are a few wiki editors who spend their time tracking down sources for interesting, pertinent but unsourced information. 
This piece of information was recently deleted from the article:-
:"At this time the demographic changed through imigration, with an influx of migrants from recent war zones, particularly Vietnam, Lebanon and Palestine." 
The person who deleted wrote that Newtown did not receive refugees. 
Well, no, Newtown was not a place where refugees were settled by Government policy. The Vietnamese, Lebanese, Palestinian and (I forgot to mention) Iranian people who settled in Newtown at the time were often those of private means. I am certain of my facts. Why? Because, among other things, in the 1980s I was teaching, in a voluntary capacity, English to Newtown's migrants. If Ms Crisp wants to be more useful, she could probably dig up some figures, instead of simply deleting things.
: it is the responsiblity of those wanting to include information to justify it, I removed detail under WP:CITE. secondly, your comments above are original research. Michellecrisp (talk) 06:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citing sources

message: Was full of cruft and POV that sounded like a church member saying it helped the revival of Newtown. It contained no verifiable or reliable sources, simply giving a reference of "see register or minutes of church" is not reliable nor an independent source. If someone wants to readd the info, they will have to provide adequate citations to establish notability. Michellecrisp (talk) 06:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Churches section

message: Is it possible to write a more interesting intro for this article? I was looking at this article for Silver Lake, which sounds like it may have a similar vibe to Newtown:[]
Compared to this one, which is strictly factual and doesn't really draw the reader in. --Bruiseviolet (talk) 05:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Introduction to Article 

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message: Many early references equate at least part of Newtown and an obsolete suburb name Camdenville, and that name persisted for some time in some sporting clubs. Can anyone clarify? Doug butler (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camdenville 

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