Talk:2010: Odyssey Two

message: Raw notes for the movie; Please update article as needed with this text:
My God, its full of stars.
bowman, commander
1999 Tycho Monolith Frank Poole Co-Pilot
HAL 9000 Logic circuit
; Monolith is 5 km long - Lagrange Point between Jupiter and Io. Heywood Floyd. National Council of Astronauticis, Leonov Russian ship, Discovery -> Io, Dr. Chandra. U. of Chicago, SAL 9000 "will I dream?", Floyd woken up 2 days early, weird data from Europa; sent probe to Europa; O2, C, chrolophyl, burst of light - loss of data "electrostatc buildup", ; Floyd (something to do with Monolith), somebody wants us to stay away from Eurpoa; aeorbraking procedure "untested theory" ; Curnow and Maxim go to the Discovery (covered in sulfer);  Monolith (1 by 4 by 9) ; Max goes to it in pod; flash of light, ball of plasma goes to earth; Bowman to earth to visit his wife "I remember Dave Bowman", says good-bye, Dont go - Im alreay there, something wonderful,  Chandra places tapeworm in HAL --> says Floyd was reason HAL malfunctioned - HAL was instructed to lie  which was contrary to his programing which was to deliver truthful and correct data analysis = made hime paranoid. Bowman combs hair of mother, she dies with a smile on her face; announcements  of the sinking of a Soviet destroyer trying to break the blockade of Honduras - 800 killed; American satalite destroyed - break off of diplomatic relationhips -- American leave the Leonov; HAL informs Floyd that someone is giving a message that they must leave in two days "It is dangerous to remain here", "look behind you", young Bowman in his orange environmental suit ->old man -> ancient man "something wonderful" -> fetus -> nothing; floyd goes to Leonov ; use Discovery as booster -> Monolith gone ; black spot seen from earth; chandra worried about HAL's reaction ; told him that Discovery will rendevous with the new space station; huge hole with clouds moving inward; HAL reports that phenomenon is 22,000 km wide with over 1 million monoliths '; HAL wants to stay to study phenomenon, Chandra explains why they have to leave "discovery could be destroyed". "Will I dream?". "I don't know"; Bowman says to HAL to raise the AE35 antenae towards earth ; One final message ; What is going to happen dave? Something woderful ; I'm afraid; Don't be. Jupiter begins to shrink then explodes a shockwave begins to expand : ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA, ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE, USE THEM TOGETHER, USE THEM IN PEACE; A new star is born and the US president and the Soviet Premire recalled ships and planes upon seeing the new star; In his note to his son, Dr. Flyod says that his children will not know a world without two suns; they will know that life is out there -- children of the old sun will one day meet he children of the new world -- Europa ; steam, melt, swamp ; Monolith with new star in background:
Heywood Floyd (Roy Scheider),
Walter Curnow (John Lithgow),
Lanya Kirbuk  (Helen Mirren)
R. Chandra  (Bob Balaban),
HAL 9000   (Douglas Rain)
Dimitri Moisevithch (Dana Elcar),
Maxim Brajlovsky (Elya Baskin),
SAL 9000   (Olga Mallsnerd),
Visual Futurist was Syd Mead
Theme was "Also Sprach Zarathustra" by Richard Strauss 
MGM/UA
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No, please don't.  -- Zoe
yes, don't alter anything!
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"they must leave Jupiter within seven days" - in the movie it was two days. what about the book? Helix84 04:39, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: -G  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 17:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Joecool280

message: Was Dr. Chandra named for Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar?  I always assumed that this was the case, but I don't think I've actually read anything to confirm this. -- Cobra libre 15:27, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
:  No.  Clarke reports in his end notes of both 2010 and 2061 that he chose the name at random from a New Delhi phone book.  66.28.178.67 19:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of Dr. Chandra's name

message: Just curious, how would Iapetus, and Saturn as well, be effected by the ignition of Jupiter, AKA Lucifer (theoretically, of course)? Here7ic 00:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. Both novel and film of 2010 follow the film of 2001 in locating the events at Jupiter, rather than Saturn (as in the 2001 novel).. Dysprosia 00:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Duely noted. I've done so. As a matter of fact, I'm reading 2061 currently. I was asking what some would speculate the effects of Lucifer would be upon the Saturnarian system. Nothing to do with 2001, although Iapetus was mentioned in my fore inquiry. Here7ic 00:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If this hasn't got any bearing on article content, you really shouldn't be discussing this here. If you want a definite answer, try the Reference Desk perhaps. Dysprosia 00:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough. Here7ic 00:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Iapetus

message: In order to get hydrogen to ignite Jupiter's mass would have had to been increased by about a factor of 100. If Jupiter were 100 times more massive the inner solar system would quickly become unstable , I don't think Clarke ever noticed this did he?
See: 
-+--aajacksoniv (talk) 11:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Stability of the Solar System 

message: It is somewhat humorous that neither this or the movie article make any comment about the substantial differences between the two - with its heavy-handed Cold War subplot, the movie comes off like some sort of sci fi version of the beginning of the "Day After." Knowing as we do now that the Soviets collapsed some 20 years earlier than the events in the movie (I'd tell you why but then this would become some sort of flame war), this really dates the film and makes it virtually unwatchable since it comes off like just so much propoganda (which I guess it was). As the book doesn't descend down this route (nor did 2001 movie or book), they hold up much better and don't become all stomach-turning preachy - gravitational dynamics of changing Jupiter's mass aside.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.164.201 (talk) 03:57, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences between Book and Movie

message: The 1979 Ridley Scott movie "Alien" is alluded to when Walter Curnow says to Max Brailovsky "Whatever happens- please don't go chasing after off after the ship's cat" while in the still derelict Discovery. Later, Max wishes "that movie" had not been put in the ships library.It is noted that Max laughed at the movie when he watched it but not why he laughed. Incidentally "Alien" appears on Clarke's list of the "best science fiction films ever made"
I have deleted the passage above from the entry as it is not verified and contains grammatical errors. Interesting piece of trivia though - perhaps someone can improve and re-insert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.50.206.182 (talk) 20:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia about Ridley Scott Alien

message: This section seems trivial at best.  Should it just be deleted?  On an unrelated note, I'm new to editing here.  I added some citations, made corrections, and restructured the "Discontinuities" section.  Suggestions and criticism would be welcome. Mtkahn (talk) 03:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Relations to Reality

message: I won't make the change myself but it seems inappropriate to have capitalized the word "Stargate" in the plot summary section. It's as though the author had that other film (or TV series) in mind when writing it. Given that that word really has little or no meaning outside of that other franchise, I think a strong argument could be made for choosing a better word or phrase altogether. In any event, it certainly should not be capitalized if left in place.
WavSlave (talk) 19:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stargate 

message: I removed the lines "USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE." from HAL's message. They do not appear in the novel - only the movie adaptation.
--David G (talk) 19:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  HAL's message