Talk:Intelligence cycle management

message: This is the top of a hierarchy of articles that I'm rolling out, as a response for more high-level discussions as well as the technical details of SIGINT, MASINT, and their subdisciplines. I tried not to be US-centric, but could only find US published sources for a good deal. Material about other countries' programs is more than welcome.
I recognize that even though I'm taking parts out of articles, they are on the long side. Suggestions on splitting also are welcome. Howard C. Berkowitz 01:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

message: The article fails to clearly explain what "intelligence cycle management" actually is.  Per Wikipedia:Layout#First_paragraph, the first sentence should clearly introduce the subject. Superm401 - Talk 05:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In my judgment, the introductor material is necessary, and I do not regard a style suggestion as a rule, as Jimbo Wales puts it, that can never be broken. If you have specific suggestions, I will be happy to listen, but I am not going to struggle to rewrite something that many people have found useful Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 05:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You could add at the very top something like: "ICM is a term describing the top-level coordination of intelligence tasking, collection, analysis and dissemination activities, which are collectively described as the IC", and then continue with the current text. Sv1xv (talk) 05:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  But what is it? 

message: Hcberkowitz has created a good article bereft of the uncited, unverifiable, US-centric, or biased content typically found in such specialized topics. However, the flow of the article is disjointed and reads more like a professional development text or manual rather than an encyclopedia article for generalists. I have tagged it with the context and jargon templates until some of these issues for a "top level" article can be resolved. Basically, the article is declarative but not descriptive. Historical examples are given within a framework, but the rationale for the framework is justified with lots of jargon. Organizational acronyms and flowcharts are introduced, but they distract from the issue at hand by requiring readers to browse elsewhere to understand an acronym or decipher bureaucratese. Quotes from the literature are interspersed in the text. At the end, I feel I have an incomplete picture of how intelligence is managed given its cyclical nature -- which is what one would expect to learn about given the title. Given the quantity and quality of the information present, the article has definite promise, and I look forward to revising it. Madcoverboy (talk) 01:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Context and jargon

message: I made a bunch of edits to take very detailed, lengthy parts about intelligence failures out (as there is a separate article) and the same with the detailed sections on Bosnia and Kosovo, which can go in those articles.  I'm not sure what we are trying to talk about with this article, as there is already an article on the intelligence cycle.  If this is designed to be an extensive discussion of just one phase of the 5-part intelligence cycle, it should be re-written with that objective in mind.  Farcaster (talk) 05:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: JP2-0 says this about the planning and direction process: "In intelligence usage, the determination of intelligence requirements, development of appropriate intelligence architecture, preparation of a collection plan, issuance of orders and requests to information collection agencies."  Perhaps the article could be re-organized around these lines. Farcaster (talk) 05:43, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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