Talk:La Jolla

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article says: "Local Native Americans, the Kumeyaay, called this location mat kulaaxuuy (IPA: [mat kəlaːxuːj]), lit. "land of holes" (mat = "land"). [...]  It is suggested [citation needed] that the Kumeyaay name for the area was translated by the Spanish settlers as La Jolla. 
I'll replace translated with transliterated, because I assume that must have been meant by the author: they tried to write "(mat ku) laaxuuy" in Spanish letters (lajuy > la juya > la jolla). Translate would mean they used a Spanish word for the Kumeyaay name, and La Jolla, written in this way, is not a Spanish word and doesn't mean "holes". They could have written at best La Hoya, as explained further down. I'll make the change now; if anyboyd has a better idea (or is able to dig up the original source which is lacking!) let's talk it over here. Ilyacadiz (talk) 17:25, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That Langdon source turned out to be a grammar on a Kumeyaay/Diegueño dialect, which is actually available online. You can find it here if you want to read it, I haven't read it yet and afaik it only mentions the Kumeyaay name for "La Jolla" without saying that it's the origin of the current English/Spanish name. In fact I can't even find "mat kulaaxuuy" or any reference to "La Jolla" in there. ("1500 California Place Names" does mention "mat-ku-laahuuy") Your edit was good. I made another edit just bc I don't think the sources used so far have actually discredited the "jewel" etymology. Also, just wondering since I checked your userpage, have you heard of anyone pronouncing "La hoya" as "la joya"? "Hoya" comes from Latin 'fovea', and some people pronounce some words which have h- now and had f- in Latin as if they had a j-, so it's plausible that "Hoya" could be misspelled as "Joya" or "Jolla", but I'm just wondering if you've actually heard that. Erinius (talk) 09:51, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Erinius, sorry for the late answer. No, I've personally not heard anybody pronounce "La Hoya" with a "J" sound ( = Kh), but then the word "hoya" itself is not very often used anyhow (hoyo is much more frequent, but both are standard Spanish). On the other hand, there are a few instances where an initial H derived from a Latin F can be pronounced as J in popular Andalusian accent. One case is officially accepted: the Flamenco Cante jondo (originally Cante hondo) can be written just like this; in Cadiz it is very normal to pronounce and even write with J some words derived from "harto" (fed up) like "jartible" (quality of making you feel fed up with something), also "higo" (fig) is sometimes pronounced "jigo" when used as a swearword. Bear in mind, anyhow, that in most of Andalusia, the J is not pronounced as Kh, but rather as simple English H, so here really "J-sound" means "pronounced H" (not Kh), as opposed to "H" which means "no sound at all". Ilyacadiz (talk) 16:09, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name 

message: The image titled "La Jolla Cove" is in fact south west of the cove in Ellen Browning Scripps Park. For reference, this is the Cove
https://image-tc.galaxy.tf/wijpeg-3094zzebwca4wfvg28wjejtm5/12639459-imagelargewidth.jpg?width=1920
76.88.55.202 (talk) 02:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cove image 

message: La Jolla isn't a city and it isn't Spanish, it's Indian. 76.167.249.182 (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

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