Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess/Archive 6

message: Improved article, added a fuller list of books he has authored as well as establishing a picture and info box. Please visit this page and contribute with information and references. I have found it extremely difficult to find information on him (although well known). most of the accredited to the amount of boks he has written and therefore many results found through a search are only about purchasing his books. please take some to check out the article and add some information that is dearly needed. thank you for your time, Matthew Yeager 05:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[John Emms (chessmaster)]] 

message: We've kind of danced around how to categorize chess players from the former Soviet Union.  So far, we've tried to categorize them in the appropriate :Category:Chess players by nationality subcat for their home republic.  I think we should continue to do this, but I also think we need to put them in a :Category:Soviet chess players or :Category:USSR chess players.  The era of Soviet dominance of chess is important enough that it should be reflected in our categorizations, and we also have the difficulty that sometimes categorizing by home republic alone doesn't really fit well.  No one should ever forget that Paul Keres was Estonian, but (please forgive me if this is a bad example) Efim Geller seems to be more accurately described as a Soviet than a Ukrainian, although of course both are correct.  I think we should use both cats.  What do our chess biographers think?  Quale 05:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely support, with a slight preference for the former ("Soviet" rather than "USSR"). I also agree that both cats should be used (i.e. keep Latvian, Estonian, Ukrainian etc). Peter Ballard 06:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with both Quale and Peter. The "Soviet School of Chess" is a topic which books have been written about, so it justifies a category for players who were of master strength during that era. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: That seems fine to me.  Bubba73 (talk), 19:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's been done in related fields (see :Category:Soviet sportspeople) and it certainly makes sense here. On an unrelated note, welcome back, Sjakkalle! youngvalter 22:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dears ! The Soviet case is not a special example, as made by history! You ought to remember about other empires like Russia, Austria-Hungary (18th-20th c.) or even United Kingdom and Yugoslavia (20th c.). So, :Category:Soviet chess players is as good as :Category:Yugoslav chess players or :Category:British chess players.
By the way, Bobby Fischer - an American champion - as an Icelandic citizen (by his own choice) is an Icelandic chess player, like Alexei Shirov is Latvian/Spanish or Miguel Najdorf - Polish/Argentine. It has sense more than classification for Fricis Apšenieks as a Soviet chess player (because of occupation of Latvia by Soviets, one year before his death).  
And other example: such players like Winawer, Rosenthal, Sittenfeld, Taubenhaus, Salwe, Rubinstein, Flamberg, Przepiórka, Cukierman, Tartakower, Popiel, etc., were "Russian" or "Austrian" chess players because of occupation of Poland.  
All the best, Mibelz 20:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Chess in the Soviet Union|Chess in the Soviet Union]] 

message: Our page for Dragoljub Minić currently says that he was Croatian, but an anon commented that he was a Serb.  His places of birth (Titograd) and death (Novi Sad) strongly suggest Serb is correct.  Does anyone know for sure?  I have also asked at WikiProject Serbia hoping to get some help. Quale 03:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not call him Yugoslav, since that is who he played most of his chess for? Peter Ballard 03:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support creation of :Category:Yugoslav chess players, which should be made a subcat of :Category:Chess players by nationality and :Category:Chess in Yugoslavia.  This would be much like the case of the Soviet Union which we discussed a short time ago. When Minić died in 2005 Yugoslavia had already broken up, but my guess is that he wasn't active in serious chess at that time.  This cat would be helpful for cases like Milan Vidmar who died in 1962, and who is generally described as Yugoslav.  Quale 05:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality of [[Dragoljub Minić]] 

message: Looking at some of these articles I am trying to improve... Wikipedia is not a "How to"... play chess. Don't say "you" or "your opponent". W1k13rh3nry 03:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reminder

message: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Chess Club.....
===other clubs===
: The Manhattan chess club and Marshall chess club don't have articles, as far as I know.  I think they deserve them.  Bubba73 (talk), 02:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the Moscow Chess Club does too, if anyone has some good sources.  We should have some pages on London clubs as well. Quale 16:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AFD

message: : The Manhattan chess club and Marshall chess club don't have articles, as far as I know.  I think they deserve them.  Bubba73 (talk), 02:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the Moscow Chess Club does too, if anyone has some good sources.  We should have some pages on London clubs as well. Quale 16:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: other clubs

message: BD_%28Fairy_chess_piece%29 is a mirror of [the Chess Variant Pages article about it]. There are probably more of these too. W1k13rh3nry 21:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvios

message: Using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser I have compared the chess related articles in:
* list of chess topics
* all pages in the category and subcategories of :Category:Chess
* all the pages having the Template:Chess-WikiProject. 
I have added the template (without rating) where it was missing. Now theses three classes contain the same articles, grand total of 1874. When you create a new chess related article is created, please add the template and add it to the list of chess topics. Voorlandt 08:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chess Template

message: Chess.com is up for speedy delete.  Bubba73 (talk), 06:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Chess.com]] up for speedy delete