Talk:Unreal Tournament

message: The information regarding the popularity of community modding is common knowledge under classical rules for such.  I feel it does not need serious citation for anything beyond mention of specific mods and their popularity.  Attempts to require a citation for the fact that UT was immensely popular and was one of the primary factors, along with Q3:A, in mainstreaming the idea of mods for shooters is absolutely ridiculous pedantry. ~J
The mods section seems somewhat random. Lots of mods have descriptions that make me suspect they were merely put there for advertisement. Could someone with knowledge of actually popular UT mods compile a better list? 62.251.111.252 00:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd advise removing the section, per WP:V. Many of the groups/organizations mentioned may well fail WP:Notability too. Marasmusine (talk) 17:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Community

message: I should probably start cleaning this article up myself. I was a reviewing member of the Modsquad on PlanetUnreal.com and have more than a passing familiarity with the game and the popularity of various mods as the game's community grew and flourished. Back in 2001 and 2002 I won grand prize at LAN parties in the Silicon Valley against all comers - using a borrowed Voodoo5 the best card in the world for Unreal Tournament due to its unrivalled performance on 3dfx's proprietary Glide API. I don't see the U4e mod mentioned, there are some incorrect statements regarding certain weapons and a lot of information about Unreal Tournament's relation to the original Unreal needs to be added. If one of you guys has dibs go ahead, but I'd really like to work on something I'm VERY comfortable with that seems to be professionally abandoned on Wikipedia at the moment. dreddnott 01:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow! 

message: I would like to move this article to another page, so i can make a new Unreal Tournament Page, with a bulletlist of the available UTs.
*Unreal Tournament 1 (aka UT99)
*Unreal Tournament 2003 (aka UT2k3)
*Unreal Tournament 2004 (aka UT2k4)
*Unreal Tournament 2007 (aka UT2k7)
So the other pages get some more visits and edits too.
What would you people think about this idea? Your pros and againsts?
:I would think a better idea is to make a Unreal TOurnament series article. Someone moved it to "Ut1". That is not a popular name for this game to my knowledge. K1Bond007 19:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, figured it wasn't going to be long before it got switched back (not that I personally cared). I think that we keep the proper title for the game, Unreal Tournament, and leave the Unreal Series template at the bottom to do the work. — Lunarbunny 07:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess there are some real unrealtournamentpatriotistic players out there, that are oldskool ut99 players and don't want to see it along a page with the other UT's. IT frustrates me a bit, because if i type unreal tournament it refers me to this page, and thats too much honour in my point of view for this game. The other tournaments are, just as the first ut, good videogames and therefore all belong to Unreal Tournament. But if this is what the people want, i don't have a choice.--NeiNie 10:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is that Unreal Tournament is the proper title of the original game, and the list placed was more fit to be under Unreal Tournament series or Unreal Tournament (disambiguation). Maybe have the disambiguation line underneath the title like some other pages (Turkey seems a fitting article to demonstrate this as I'm currently vacationing here :D). — Lunarbunny 17:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not too much of an honor at all because without the original Unreal Tournament the later versions would not exist nor would they have sold as well as they did.  Additionally, as much as the UT 2004 fans want to deny it, the original proved to be an enduring success based on online player counts (of real humans, not bots) at a given time after each game's release, and it is an injustice for the UT 2004 community to pretend otherwise.  Furthermore, many serious Unreal Tournament players have questioned whether or not UT 2003 and UT 2004 are real sequels; some people regard them as abject failures and completely different games. -- WhipperSnapper
Ehm.. wikipedia is an encyclopedy. And since the makers didnt introduce unreal tournament 2003 and 2004, they implyed that it is a part of a serie. So, what people think about it isnt really objective. And following the makers's intensions is. The way i see it. So dont try to share your opinion about the game.
But I said: its okay, if this is what the people want, they can get it like this. End of discussion for me, unless people share my vision about unreal tournament.. but they dont.NeiNie 21:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The evidence is my testimony (and that of others) of having seen the player counts for UT '99 CTF back in 2001 (two years after its release) and having seen the player counts (for humans and not bots) of UT 2004 CTF in 2006 (two years after its release).  In 2001 you could open the UT '99 CTF server browser and find 3000+ people on the public CTF servers almost 24/7.  In contrast, in 2006 if you look at the UT 2004 CTF servers and then examine servers to determine the number of real human players and not bots, you'll find that the number pales (very very dramatically) in comparisson to the number who played UT '99 in 2001.  Regarding my comment about how many serious UT '99 players felt about UT 2003 (and, by implication, the style of UT 2004) you can go read threads on discussion forums from September and October 2003.  This is about truth and justice, and I think that people who are new to the games should know the real story, even if it isn't touchy-feeley.  (August 18, WhipperSnapper))
(small coment)
it would worth mention also that the ps2 version didnt have internet play BUT have lan play, using stantard ethernet. (up to 16 players)
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I realize that it's off the radar for most Unreal Tournament players, but would it be possible to give some mention to the demo version that came before the full release? There were several iterations, before the final 348 incarnation was settled on.
Apart from the heritage, and the fact that taster versions are a common marketing gimmick, please consider the following...
I appreciate that it might be a source of some amusement to Unreal veterans, but there's a very dedicated and resilient community of Unreal Tournament demo players about still. We coalesce around a handful of demo specific websites - utdemo.com, rockemhard.com, -NN- messageboard primarily - have around 40 active servers, and some 300 or 400 regular players.
We're a plucky bunch and a bit under-represented. Many own copies of the 'Full Version', but choose to remain with demo because of the close-knit community and slightly different game architecture - it's really a microcosm of the best features of the retail edition, distilled down into a more compact package.
Not sure if my memory is correct on this... but didn't the demo release get postponed by one day because of a hurricane near Epic's offices? RobChafer 13:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving article? 

message: I've edited this section to be a bit more presentable. However, I'm not too sure whether or not a Cheats section is even appropriate for Wikipedia. If it isn't, feel free to remove it. Matt489Talk 22:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheats section 

message: Is there any information about who composed the music? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.237.247.63 (talk) 12:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound? (Music, Effects) 

message: I'm removing the Mike Teevee comment from this page. I've played many a game of UT, and whatever Mike was playing was not this game. 169.233.16.227 21:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Product Placement 

message: I see no mention whatsoever of NGStats/NGWorldStats, which was included with Unreal Tournament and kept track of all player statistics such as kills, time played, weapons picked up, etc.  A brief mention of this component should be included in the article, as it was included with Unreal Tournament and thus part of the game.
Nuzz604 02:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So what?  Wikipedia is not a list of things that exist only at the present.  Nuzz604 23:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NGWorldstats 

message: i can find no information about the dreamcast or ps2 ports, i think that any facts on this matter would be useful for many people 86.144.191.87 03:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreal tournament ports 

message: I've removed a lot of lines that seemed plausibly like either WP:OR or techniques on how to play the game, which is not expected out of an encyclopedic article. See What wikipedia is notWP:NOT. Please refrain from making this article a game guide.
Some more which I feel is not yet included are game music, information regarding bot's chat lines, etc.,
Please feel free to add them.
Mugunth 06:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: The link to "Reaper Bot" in the Bot AI section is to an article about bots in general - it barely mentions the Reaper Bot.
138.243.195.136 22:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link in "Bot AI" section 

message: Corrected the year creation. The mod is not new (2006). It is 4 years older, but it wasn't much popular before the cup on ClanBase. 193.77.231.145 14:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  mod list - ut soccer 

message: I've played UT quite a bit, and I don't remember a chainsaw outside of the ChaosUT mod. Remove?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.121.255.108 (talk) 05:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The various faqs on gamefaqs mention a chainsaw, but really the whole section needs referencing per WP:V (and from a reliable source, and not just a faq). Marasmusine (talk) 08:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The chainsaw is not found in any of the standard levels but can be used in practice sessions and multiplayer through the chainsaw melee and chainsaw arena mutators. The same applies to the enhanced shock rifle, it is not in any of the standard maps but is availible through a standard mutator. Plugwash (talk) 09:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chainsaw weapon? 

message: I've just added a link to a directory with Loki's linux shell script installers, the link is to LinuxGames' AtomicGamer file hosting directory. I'd have preferred to link to Loki's site directly, or at least some ftp dir or something, but the scripts aren't around on Loki's site (even though the site is still up), and the links on their 'where do I get the scripts' page are mostly dead.
For the record I'm not affiliated with LinuxGames or AtomicGamer.
Akdor 1154 (talk) 05:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loki Script archives 

message: I have added BunnyTrack (BT) to the mod list as it is becoming a very popular game type and has been around since about 2004. I think it deserves a mention! 89.241.236.83 (talk) 02:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This was removed due to lack of reliable sourcing. Ham Pastrami (talk) 13:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: BunnyTrack

message: Should there be some mention of this kid? This was the alleged game he was playing. 76.110.198.70 (talk) 20:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not even related to the game, even if he allegedly playing it (Besides that would also be speculation :O) --FrostedBitesCereal (talk) 03:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angry German Kid 

message: Where's is it? The link leads me to nothing. So much for being helpful, Wikifaggots. - 60.49.106.108 (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Pentium 200 MHZ, 32-64 MB of RAM, 4-8 MB Video Card with no 3D Acceleration, and 500 MB of Hard Disk space. And you're a faggot too, mister.79.25.193.197 (talk) 00:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  System requirements 

message: i was playing Unreal Tournament this morning, and i noticed that i kept shooting someone in the head with a enforcer and THEY DIDN'T DIE(only died if you kept shooting).Is it a glitch?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neverlights2 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: you can score headshots only with the sniper rifle, the ripper and the chainsaw. I have never seen a headshot made with the enforcer. -- 79.25.193.197 (talk) 00:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Please stick to matters pertaining to the improvement of the article as talk pages are not discussion forums. Eik Corell (talk) 09:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  headshot glitch? 

message: Abbreviation FPS is not introduced before first use:
UT was designed as an arena FPS
--Mortense (talk) 22:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now it is. :) -- Ken g6 (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction af FPS 

message: Why does HOLY SHIT KILL rederect here? There is no mention of it in the article. Jdaniels15 (talk) 12:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  holy shit kill 

message: Why is this article in the Apple portal?  It does not run on current versions of MacOS and is of very little importance to most Mac users.  I love Unreal Tournament dearly, but it does not seem relevant enough to keep in the Apple portal.  Thoughts?--CPX7700 (talk) 03:14, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Apple portal?

message: This article really needs a "development" section. I added an external link above which explains the development of the game throughout 4 pages. Hakken (talk) 16:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development 

message: I just realized that we have absolutely no first person screenshot of this first person shooter game. If anyone would like to post a screenie, please do so in the Gameplay section. I do not have access to Unreal Tournament at the moment, but will post a screenshot if no one else does once I return. Hakken (talk) 17:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  No in-game screenshot 

message: Can we replace the non-notable reviewers such as Gamezilla with more reviews by IGN, GameSpot etc?
Have found a lot more: 
PS2
*GameSpot: https://web.archive.org/web/20001211040700/http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2644360,00.html
*GameRevolution: https://web.archive.org/web/20001109054600/http://www.game-revolution.com/games/ps2/action/unreal_tournament.htm
*GamePro: https://web.archive.org/web/20040921040940/http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps2/games/reviews/7159.shtml
Dreamcast
*IGN: https://web.archive.org/web/20010331100235/http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/15208.html
*GameRevolution: https://web.archive.org/web/20010609180025/http://www.game-revolution.com/games/dreamcast/action/unreal_tournament.htm
: Gamezilla is a reliable source according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Adam9007 (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Happy Puppy? Hakken (talk) 09:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, let's just leave the section as it is. Hakken (talk) 16:08, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception section 

message: Can we have a plot/setting section? Just found this: . I read somewhere that this was written by Brandon Reinhart, one of the UT programmers, however cant confirm as i don't remember the link. Could anyone please rewrite the plot in a way it can meet Wikipedia's quality standards? I would gladly do this but English is not my first language. Hakken (talk) 13:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. The Official Guide book says there's no story except fighting in the government's tournament to defeat Xan. Adam9007 (talk) 21:06, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: I request renaming this page to Unreal Tournament (1999 video game) considering the announcement of another game with the same name (Unreal Tournament (upcoming video game)). Should I do anything else to start the process?--Adûnâi (talk) 07:35, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It should not be done before that other game even has a release date. FunkMonk (talk) 14:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename request