Talk:General Atomics MQ-1 Predator

message: It would be nice to get some more info on the engine.  Interesting that it uses a Rotax engine, Rotax is a Austrian company now owned by a Canadian corporation.   Rotax is best known for making motorcycle engines, small and lightweight vs. their power output. They have been used by a large number of motorcycle manufacturers over the years including Aprillia, BMW, KTM, Penton, ATK and Can-AM. Also some snow-mobiles use them.  They build both 2 and 4 strokes, mostly singles and twins of up to 1000cc capacity. 
ZeroXero (talk) 22:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Any more info on the engine? 

message: The Museum of Yugoslav Aviation has a Predator hanging on display, and I assume this was downed during the 90s conflict. It'd be nice to have some info on the aprox date, location and circumstances of the downing in the article, but I can't find anything. Anyone? Akradecki 15:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like we lost a bunch of drones in the balkans --MarsRover 06:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that link...I've incorporated that information Akradecki 18:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Here's one mention of downed UAVs in the Kosovo War article.Thatmarkguy (talk) 18:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Looking for downing info

message: In the Specifications section it shows crew as 0 (zero). 
While it is obvious that aircraft of this type have no on-board crew, however there has to be someone piloting and operating its systems from a ground base as it is a "remotely piloted vehicle" (RPV) and not an "autonomous aerial vehicle". 
How many people would normally be operating one of these aircraft during flight? Roger 12:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Specs list on-board crew only. And actually, it is "autonomus", meaning that no one has to actually be flying it every second. Ground operators should be mentioned in the main text. - BilCat (talk) 23:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Whether you're right or not, the on-board crew is still zero, which is what the specs list. - BilCat (talk) 18:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crew? 

message: This site: [Soldier of Fortune] talks about the success of this drone.Agre22 (talk) 14:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Predator passes 600,000 flight hours

message: Could we get another photo of this thing? It is really hard to judge the size of it in all of the photos currently on the article. I'm thinking something like this http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/predator/mq1afghanistan_20080424.jpg  Does anyone have one we can use? Peter Napkin Dance Party (talk) 05:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually found a better one,a nd it was already on Commons. Remember to check there first, as sometimes - but not always - they'll have an appropriate pic. - BilCat (talk) 05:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome Bilcat! How does one go about finding the Commons?Peter Napkin Dance Party (talk) 13:52, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On the article page under "External links", there is a link box at the right that will take you to the Predator page on Commons. - BilCat (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another photo 

message: I don't know if the person who wrote this section watched the video that was cited.  This section is unclear on who antagonized who and who fired first.  The video, obtained by CBS News, from the camera in the Predator shows that the Predator flew toward the Mig. The Predator was fired upon and fired back in response.  The text on this page is sort of garbled about what happened.  I just want to make sure that if the story is going to be told, it is told correctly.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpittb87 (talk • contribs) 21:16, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iraqi Mig-25 / MQ-1 Predator dogfight 

message: There should be a discussion on this page whether the use of this weapon contravenes international law.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkooiman (talk • contribs) 13:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. ONLY verified fact may be included in articles. Roger (talk) 16:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question of legality 

message: "The USAF describes the Predator as a 'Tier II' MALE UAS (medium-altitude, long-endurance UAV system)."
Assuming the USAF doesn't consist of Unix geeks, the acronym "UAS" doesn't make sense. Has someone verified that? Does it stand for Unmanned Aerial System? (In which case the phrase "long-endurance UAV system" should be corrected.) I don't want to change anything without verifying first, but something's out of whack.
Xebico (talk) 15:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acronym confusion 

message: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/08/earlyshow/saturday/main20117624.shtml
Virus infects Pentagon drones' computers
Solid enough to add yet? Should this go under the USAF Cyber Command page instead? Hcobb (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not directly related to the MQ-1 or anything particularly important - have you tried wiki news for this unencyclopedic stuff. MilborneOne (talk) 16:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  USAF got infected 

message: The endurance is stated to be 24 hours. The range is 1100km, and the stalling speed is around 100km/h. So even if a predator flies at its stalling speed, it can only fly for 1100/100=11 hours. Something must be wrong here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.190.253.150 (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't a missile: it has to fly home.   Example - fly 9 hrs Chicago to Mass, spy on Romney for 6 hrs, then return to Chicago. 66.87.0.161 (talk) 01:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  endurance 

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message: Video from April 11, 2014 shows a Predator drone  flying over the Amurskiy Bridge in Dnipropetrovsk in southern Ukraine. Note, that the landing gear are down, indicating that it is operating from a base or airfield near by.
* Беспилотник над Днепром в Днепропетровске (UAV over the Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk)
Are there any reliable sources for this operation?  -- Petri Krohn (talk) 05:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukraine? 

message: In this article its written: 
1 × Rotax 914F turbocharged four-cylinder engine, 115 hp[108] (86 kW (4.8 kW redudant/6.4hp))
But in the Engine article:
Maximum 84 kW (115 hp) at 5,800 rpm, with 5 minute time limit; 73 kW (100 hp) continuous
Maybe someone want to correct this? I do not really understand what the 4.8 kW redudant mean, and the difference (84 kW/115 hp and 86 kW/115 hp here)
Greetings Kilon22 (talk) 05:47, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engine 

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message: I've seen it being used interchangeably, but it seems like it should mean something.  AA Quantum (talk) 19:34, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: Why isn't the US Army usage mentioned in the article? Appears that several sources indicate that the US Army is flying them. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE  14:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: There are two asterisks in the infobox, and there is nothing explaining what the asterisks mean. My best guess is that they denote former users, but this is not a convention used in any other aircraft articles I've seen. A reader should be able to tell quickly what an asterisk means. The more common convention in Wikipedia is to make a footnote or other type of reference. If no one can explain the asterisks, I'll remove them in a few days or whenever I return to this article. Holy (talk) 22:10, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone added a , but didn't format it properly. It's fixed now. - BilCat (talk) 04:42, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: The MQ-1B shot down by Syrian Air Defenses in 2015 was the last USAF-operated Predator to be shot down by hostile fire. I made an edit to reflect this, however this edit was removed claiming a lack of sourcing. 
My question is this: how can the lack of an event be properly sourced? The 2015 shoot down was widely documented. There has been no documented shoot down since 2015. The type's retirement by the USAF was widely documented in 2018. Absent some news article or academic source explicitly stating  that no subsequent shoot down occurred between 2015 and 2018, what is the proper way to source that this was indeed the last acknowledged loss of a USAF MQ-1B due to hostile fire? I would argue that the appropriate sourcing of the 2015 shoot down, combined with the appropriate sourcing of the type's 2018 retirement, combined with the absence of any documentation referencing a shoot down between 2015 and 2018, should be sufficient to state that the 2015 shoot down was the last MQ-1 combat loss suffered by the USAF.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MCQknight (talk • contribs) 16:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There's really two issues here: One, is the statement even needed? I don't think so, especially as it implies we know for certain none were shot down after that date,and it's ultimately just trivia. Second, how do you know for certain it was the last one shot down? How much searching have you done on this? Granted, it's unlikely the accident fankids have missed one, but it is possible they did, especially if they had big test the next day. ;) - BilCat (talk) 21:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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