Talk:Order of Dobrzyń

message: Shouldn't this be under 'Brothers of Dobrin'? And Dobrzyń instead of Dobrin?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 1 July 2005 07:11 (UTC)
: I wasn't positive about how to list it. I picked Order because almost all of the groups listed at Military order (society) are named Order. My reference books do not have a great deal of information on these knights, but they are usually listed as the "Order of" or "Knights of", not "Brothers of" (regardless of the literal translation of their name). Dobrzyn and Dobrin are both fine, I think. Older texts refer more toward the German Dobrin, while newer ones use Dobrzyn more. Olessi 1 July 2005 11:23 (UTC)
:: I was thinking of contemporary Livonian Brothers of the Sword. But it is true various sources use various names. I won't insist on name change - let's hear opinion of others - if anybody is interested in this at all :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 1 July 2005 14:13 (UTC)
::: I think that any variation of Order/Knights of Dobrin/Dobrzyn is fine. Olessi 1 July 2005 21:26 (UTC)
::::Fine. Then since "Older texts refer more toward the German Dobrin, while newer ones use Dobrzyn more", I think we will stick with the "newer" ones, because the "older" ones probably reflect the Cold War or even the Partitions. Space Cadet 20:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order or brothers? 

message: The name of this article has been disputed in the past. After over a year of it being at Order of Dobrzyń, User:Matthead moved it without prior discussion to Order of Dobrin. User:Space Cadet then copy-and-pasted it back to Order of Dobrzyń. I have restored it and its edit history to the older name of Order of Dobrzyń. Please discuss controversial title changes on talk pages first to gain consensus before moving pages around. Olessi 20:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support as nom. Sciurinæ (talk) 12:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The first hit on Scurinae's list for Dobrin  says "also called the Knights of Dobrin", and the book (by Hunyadi) actually calls them Milites Christi de Prussia This brief body was merged into the Teutonic Knights; if we do not not call them Knights of Christ of Prussia, as several of the sources do, we should follow suit. I trust these well-established editors will prefer this to scoring ethnic bragging points.  Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: *Knights of Dobrin google book search result: 587 books
*Knights of Dobrzyn google book search result: 473 books
Since Christian of Prussia, the first bishop of Prussia installed the Knights of Dobrin and Dobrin was given to them as their property, the historical name is of course Knights of Dobrin or Brothers of Dobrin. They were specifically the Milites Christi de Prussia That the town later fell to Kujavia, or Masovia or to Poland and named Polish: Dobrzyn is another later matter. Wikipedia article name should be Brothers or Knights of Dobrin or Knights of Christ of Prussia. An Observer (71.137.196.30 (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Knights of Christ of Prussia 

message: The article mixes/links two different places named Dobrzyn/Dobrin. Only one of them is relevant for the order.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Storchenbraten (talk • contribs) 11:18, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dobrzyn