Talk:Diet soda

message: I think the change to, for instance, put Mountain Dew under Pepsi is wrong.  The Coca-Colas go together, obviously, as do the Pepsis.  But unless you're already aware that Mountain Dew is a Pepsi product, you're not going to look under Pepsi.  And this list is already larger than will fit in a normal-sized screen, so scanning the entire list isn't easy.  The alternative is to break the list out into a "list of" article, with cross-references, so that Mountain Dew can go both under 'M' and under 'P'. Dale Arnett, would you mind reverting your change, or do you disagree with my reasoning here? --TreyHarris 21:20, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: There's probably a way to organize them to make them easier to read and/or cross reference them. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 02:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing based on corporate parent 

message: This page should be moved to Diet Soft Drink, with Diet Soda as a redirect.  This is a more generic name, and is more dialect-neutral.
--68.0.212.218 18:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, especially now that the page has been marked as US-centric.  Does anyone object to the page move?  Confiteordeo 19:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diet Soft Drink 

message: Would it make sense to convert the list of drinks per sweetener to a table of drinks that use each sweetener?
It would be similar to this:
  	sweetener 1	sweetener 2	sweetener 3	sweetener 4
drink 1	yes        	no         	no         	no
drink 2	yes        	no         	no         	no
drink 3	yes        	no         	no         	no
... and so on and so forth. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dimwell (talk • contribs) 04:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List vs Table? 

message: Are there any sodas made with stevia Puddytang 18:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Coke sells a version of their products in Japan using Stevia as a sweetener.  The American Food and Drug Administration decided it might be dangerous though, so they banned it's use as a sweetener, although it's been used for several centuries as one.  Many people suspect Monsanto was behind that decision since it coincided with aspartame being approved by the FDA and it could have competed against Nutrasweet.  When Nutrasweet was approved, saccharine was still considered to be a carcinogen even though it was used extensively during WWII when sugar was rationed.  And for the record, Monsanto is absolutely evil - this is a company that sold seeds that would produce crops that wouldn't produce seeds, it bankrupted thousands of poor 3rd world farmers and led to a massive amount of suicides.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.56.115 (talk) 10:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stevia 

message: "Furthermore, the natural responses to eating sugary foods (eating less at the next meal and using some of the extra calories to warm the body after the sugary meal)."
Not sure what the author intended but the above is not a complete sentence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reklar (talk • contribs) 22:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  fragment 

message: Here is a medical article about the health risks. Should be integrated in the article. MaxPont (talk) 15:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Health risks

message: I have a can of Diet Orange Crush in front of me that contains 5 grams of high fructose corn syrup (25 calories total). So not all sodas labeled "diet" are actually sugar-free. Therefore I'm changing the first sentence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brancron (talk • contribs) 01:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of "Diet"

message: why are you ruining the name of the soda? why are you ruinging evrything? why are you so mean?
e-mail me why.
at lightbit45@yahoo.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.155.216.41 (talk) 16:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  why? 

message: I made an edit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_soda?diff=327976851 stating that the artificial sweeteners in diet sodas are proven to be unhealthy, which is very true. So, why the heck was it reverted? 98.216.203.117 (talk) 02:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is true, then you need to specify references and cite the sources which indicate that this is true. Please reference the policy WP:NOR. If you can supply a citation to go along with it, it would be fine to me. Happy editing! --Mpdelbuono (talk) 03:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health 

message: Aspartame and sucralose are proven to be worse for you than sugar, especially when it comes to diabetics. I have added this information to the article, and I have references for it. --76.119.154.85 (talk) 02:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you understated it. The 116 drank one can or more of diet soda per day at one time point in the 10 year study when they were asked. The findings conflict with prior studies. The caveat you added was pretty good in content (maybe it did not go as far as it should) but was off stylistically. I missed the "action points" box the first time, so the editorialzed-sounding text was sourced. My only remaining problem is now use "preliminary" twice—far from horrid. My inclination is to delete the paragraph for the reasons stated below, but give it a fair discussion. Did you intend to post to this section rather than "The Manhattan study [5]" below?Novangelis (talk) 14:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health concerns 

message: "Aspartame and sucralose are proven to be worse for you than sugar, especially when it comes to diabetics. I have added this information to the article, and I have references for it. --76.119.154.85 (talk) 02:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you really think that hundreds of people would lie about Splenda? If so many people say that it gave them side effects, they can't all be lying, don't you think? 76.119.154.85 (talk) 22:54, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that hundreds of people would lie about Splenda.  I do think that hundreds of people might draw the wrong conclusions based on only anecdotal evidence.  "Hundreds of people" can be found who believe a lot of weird things. 60.32.77.130 (talk) 05:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

text:  Went to undo 96.49.137.132's re-insertion of biased and unsupported claims and found note not to remove until discussion on talk page is over.  Since the reference is akin to a conspiracy theory site, I will be removing the passage in question UNTIL 96.49.137.132 can cite a proper reference for these claims. 60.32.77.130 (talk) 06:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Listen. I personally used to be a huge Diet Coke addict. Whenever I drank it, I got an extreme migraine and really bad back pain. I'm not alone here, either. There are tons of other people who have had the same things happen to them. And those people did not draw the wrong conclusions about Splenda. Some of them specifically stated that when they tried to stop their symptoms, they removed several things from their lives, but until they stopped using Splenda, they still had horrible things happening to them. Not a coincidence. 76.119.154.85 (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure but try to understand that "a lot of people say", "I had a personal experience" etc., don't count when you're talking about science.  If there's a published study about this issue, then fine, but otherwise, it's not reliable information.  Removing it again. 118.152.79.97 (talk) 08:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Search for "aspartame poison" and "aspartame bad for diabetics" on Google and you'll find out that I'm not lying about it. 76.127.217.214 (talk) 18:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether or not you had a bad experience that you believe was caused by aspartame is not in question. Your personal experience cannot be taken as proof on any scientific basis. A study must be conducted on humans of differing conditions for a lengthy period of time with regulated doses in order to be a proper source. "I said", "He said", "She said" doesn't cut it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.186.26.1 (talk) 16:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Sigh... This is growing tiresome.  You appear to have difficulty with the notion of what an appropriate source is.  I'll quote directly from the blurb at the bottom of Wikipedia's page: "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable".  Please take it upon yourself to learn the rules and what is acceptable content and what is not. Whether you have a particular personal opinion on this simply does not enter into it.  And I'm sorry if that makes you cry.  96.49.137.132 (talk) 03:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This stuff is not some kind of joke! This is serious! These horrible sweeteners are killing people! If we had information here about how dangerous they are, less people would die from them! But you guys are depriving people of important information they need to know! 76.127.217.214 (talk) 17:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, Wikipedia is not a news site. We're not here to alert the population about new unproven health risks. Once there's verifiable coverage of this by reliable sources then it will merit inclusion. I also take issue with the way you're phrasing your inclusions so decisively. Not even scientific and medical papers are that certain with this sort of thing. It's one thing to say "smoking cigarettes might lead to lung cancer and other health issues", but that doesn't happen to everyone who smokes. I urge you to please read WP:RS and WP:V before attempting to add this back into the article. If you add it again with no reliable sources, I will report you for edit warring. XXX antiuser eh? 19:08, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So you think it's good that these sweeteners are killing people?! 76.127.217.214 (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no proof that they are, or that they aren't. It's all speculative and that does not belong on Wikipedia. If it's ever proven that Aspartame or Sucralose cause the effects you and your dubious sources claim they do, the media will be all over it. Find me a peer-reviewed scientific journal or a report by a major media outlet that says someone conclusively died because of sweetener ingestion and I will add it to the article myself. XXX antiuser eh? 19:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's ton of websites about how dangerous they are. And I nearly died of a brain tumor from Aspartame, as well. 76.127.217.214 (talk) 19:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Well, like I said, I nearly died of a brain tumor from Aspartame, and seeing as how there are some websites that say that Aspartame causes brain tumors, they're not lying. 76.127.217.214 (talk) 20:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad you're still with us. But how do you know your tumour was caused by Aspartame? What basis did your doctor have to diagnose it as such? If they are referencing a journal you might want to ask them for its doi. That would be a valid ref. XXX antiuser eh? 21:11, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, basically, here's my story.
#I first had Diet Dr Pepper in 1996 when I was 4 years old, and OMG! I loved it so much!
#I drank it a few times between then and my 8th birthday.
#The day of my 8th birthday was when I started drinking it everyday. 
#By my 12th birthday, I was drinking several cans of it a day, rather than just 1 can per day.
#One day in July 2009 (when I was 17), I suddenly had a seizure and at the hospital, they discovered the tumor.
#I had an operation to have the tumor removed, and it was 100% successful.
#So, shortly afterwards, me and some of the doctors at the hospital wanted to discover what caused the tumor. When we were going over what my habits were prior to the tumor, I told them I drank several cans of Diet Dr Pepper everyday.
#Then, they told me that it was likely that the Aspartame from the Diet Dr Pepper caused the tumor. They also said I was very lucky that the operation was successful and especially that the tumor was able to be operated on. Most brain tumors caused by Aspartame can't be operated on.
I have not drank Diet Dr Pepper since then. Prior to getting the tumor, my hair was also falling out and my legs and arms would also go numb at random times. Those are also things that Aspartame can do. 76.127.217.214 (talk) 22:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I hate that this happened to you, but it proves nothing. Cancer is caused by a mutation in the DNA of your cells. It could be exposure to some outside stimulant or it could just... have mutated (evolved). You could be genetically predisposed. Not to be blunt, but it's far more likely you should blame your parents than diet soda. 96.37.240.48 (talk) 23:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Claimed personal experiences are original research, and not a viable basis for content additions.  Remember, the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth — what counts is whether readers can verify that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable sources, not whether editors think it is true. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

text: EDIT CONFLICT I find your story hard to believe, but I'm going to assume good faith and just walk away from this discussion. XXX antiuser eh? 22:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Unless you can provide reliable references to back this up, this is seen as original research, which is forbidden here. I could always say that I use Splenda all the time and I've never had a migraine. That would effectively cancel out your claims, and the article would be none the better. Therefore, we don't accept claims without some reliable source that can back it up. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 04:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aspartame and sucralose are causing global warming, AIDs, and America to be the fattest country in the world. If you disagree with me you are ignorant and have no sources. Michael J. Fox does not have Parkinson's disease, he just drinks too much Diet Coke. Also, Chuck Norris would never drink Aspartame and sucralose because he shits excellence. STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.86.230.202 (talk) 21:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Health concerns 

message: The Manhattan that's been reported in the press, and is linked to reference [5] refers to the International Stroke Conference. There's no mention of this study in the the actual abstracts from that conference, only the related study that was reported as well (salt intake vs stroke risk) (page 50). 
Was the soda article even printed somewhere?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.197.105 (talk) 00:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The abstract can be found here. This is problematic material, but highly topical (by definitions, favorable and unfavorable). It's inclusion runs into problems with WP:MEDRS and Recentism. I would love to find a reliably sourced evaluation of press coverage that allows discussion of the coverage without overly focusing on the content of a preliminary report. So far, all I have seen is blogs. I took the liberty of rewriting it with less of a statement/editorial caveat format.Novangelis (talk) 19:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Manhattan study [5] 

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thread_title:  Old Tang containers glass 

message: I have no idea how to actually fix this, so if someone wants to make those match that'd be stellar. 98.184.236.185 (talk) 19:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The table for aspartame count etc doesn't match the citations 

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