Talk:Autobiography (Ashlee Simpson album)

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Archive time? --Calton 13:08, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Archiving?

message: Continuing where Everyking and I left off, I would only support the reinclusion of the charting data in full iff if a substantial portion of it was used in the article and not just haphazardly thrown in. For example, "Although Autobiography fell off the top 10 in week X, a month later it rebounded to Nth in the charts." And that has to be done with a substantial portion of the data; if you're going to extrapolate the album's popularity from the charting statistics as a whole, that can be done much more easily by giving its peak position, how long it stayed there, and the full length of the album's chart run. The inclusion of the data has to be justified. Otherwise it would be like throwing in a picture without a caption. Johnleemk | Talk 06:58, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My opinion is that peak chart positions are just about worth including.  Any description of chart movements over time is complete overkill, and tells us almost nothing about the album.  It's likely to be of interest only to hardcore fans.  I also don't think the graph should be there.  It's simply not interesting to the vast majority of readers to know the week by week chart movements of an album.  No other albums, even acknowledged hugely influential classics, have this information (as far as I can tell). Worldtraveller 19:04, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you insist, we can keep going through the same routine forever. Personally, I'd rather compromise. Everyking 22:35, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it's right. I don't know the specifics of why the numbers are like that, but I've heard it's a distinction between units sold and units shipped. Everyking 05:26, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Data inclusion 

message: A scratchpad version of the article now exists at Autobiography (Ashlee Simpson album)/Temp. Radical editing is encouraged so that we can reach effective compromises there without futile revert wars here; hopefully this will be useful in addressing previous FAC objections. Everyking 07:03, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, no-one else is subject to an arbitration ruling here.  I don't see why anyone should voluntarily subject themselves to the same restrictions placed on you because of your behaviour with these articles. Worldtraveller 22:03, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't think that's such a great idea because it sounds so specific, but that's just me. Are there any other celebrities with a simiar list of television appearances? If so, could you provide links to them for reference? Thanks. --Deathphoenix 17:37, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Has she really made enough notable television appearances to justify a full article on them?  If not, then the only reason I won't list such an article on VfD is if someone else beats me to it. --Carnildo 20:12, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, by my definition all her TV appearances are notable, since they are seen by so many people. Everyking 21:47, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've mentioned before, I've appeared on TV several times, been seen by millions of people.  Lots of people watch TV - that doesn't make TV appearances inherently notable.  Worldtraveller 22:03, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it does, if the appearances have any kind of significance. Where's your article? Everyking 22:18, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, you can move it if you want. Everyking 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If nothing's going to be done with it it should probably just be deleted, though (I take it it's just a copy of a particular version of the main article with no new material in it as yet). Are there any plans for actually using it for anything? Bryan 08:37, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The plan was to use it to work out our editing disputes there instead on the article itself. Unfortunately someone has decided to seek arbitration against me instead. Nevertheless, I hope the scratchpad comes in handy eventually. Everyking 08:40, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I moved it. Bryan 17:20, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Scratchpad

message: Currently we have this chart in the article. It goes up to 30 weeks, which I think is a nice cut-off point. The problem with it, though, is that while it gives a good general impression of rising and falling trends, it's very difficult to read it for the specific numbers. Previously, we had a table in the article which gave the specific numbers, and I'd like to restore it. (Conceivably we could have that and the chart? Might be overkill) I'll note that in the months that have passed since the debate over this other comprehensive album articles have begun adopting tables like the one we used to have here. To me, this helps set a precedent that should make deciding this issue easier. Everyking 08:49, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart

message: and may have caused "La La", promotion for which began in the U.S. in November 2004, to have fared more poorly on the charts than it otherwise would have
in reference to the orange bowl/snl incidents..... Ryan Norton T | @ | C 05:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I added that recently in an attempt to satisfy people seeking more negativity in the article. Oh well, doesn't bother me to see it go. Everyking 05:50, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  speculation removed 

message: # "Better Off", described by People magazine... - only positive reviews quoted.
:People magazine links points to ashleemedianet to a picture of ashlee simpson... I searched the few pages that were there but couldn't find the specific review page. Also scoured google for it, no go. The specific issue is mentioned in your userfied issue, EK.... perhaps we can requote this a bit for NPOV, or should we look for a seperate source?
# the most rapidly added song on radio - what does this mean?
:This is a dead la times link... can we verify that it says this a quote something directly?
If you could help on the these that would be great, as I got the rest already....
Ryan Norton T | @ | C 07:58, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it . I think she may alter the links when she adds new pictures, changing the order around, which seems like an insane method of organization, but if so that would mean this link would be frequently changing. So perhaps we should just cite it like a print review and not give a link. I don't know. Everyking 08:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

text: And the LA Times link has the same problem too? Well, I'll hunt it down. Everyking 08:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here. Thanks for pointing those out. Hopefully they won't change again. Everyking 08:45, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Oh, and by rapidly added they mean picked up spins most frequently, increased airplay. Everyking 08:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's left, source etc. 

message: In the U.S., Autobiography was 2004's biggest debut by a female artist - is this true? I read somewhere that Norah Jones' Feels Like Home sold over one million copies in its first week of U.S. release. Extraordinary Machine 21:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But that was Norah's second album. Everyking 21:50, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry. I thought the "debut" part was referring to the album's debut on the charts. I've clarified the sentence a little. Extraordinary Machine 22:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible error? 

message: The article says:
Geffen President Jordan Schur said of Ashlee's success: "It's unheard of in this business—even for a superstar—to sell this number of records,"
This needs to be deleted or commented upon, because it makes Simpson's management out to look like either morons or blatant liars. There have been at least 157 albums selling more than 8 million copies in the U.S. Has Jordan Schur really never heard of any of those? Tomasboij 17:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unheard-of sales 

message: Her song "Autobiography" sounds like a song by a german band called Juli - Es_ist_Juli - The song is called Tränenschwer.
The song was written by Kara DioGuardi and sold to both partys.
See Here
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.202.102 (talk) 17:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rip off of German Band's Song? 

message: This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. I would have liked to see critical reception in its own section though, rather than wrapped up in "Background" under "Production". Also, there's a  "citation needed" tag in the "Singles, publicity, and controversy" section, and a few paragraphs of unsourced material towards the end there. This is the natural accretion of cruft that will always occur in articles like this; it seems legitimate enough, but some sourcing and maybe a restructuring would be good. Lampman (talk) 03:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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