Talk:The Damned (band)

message: Croydon isn't really a suburb of London; British cities do not have suburbs as such, as Britain tends to be more one continuous urban sprawl rather than discreet cities as in the US. I changed it to "a suburban town outside London." Also edited the syntax as it sounded like Croydon was formed in 1976. --Taskforce 14:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I must say that when I last drove down from Glasgow to Surrey to visit my brother, I did not notice it being a "continuous urban sprawl". Maybe TASKFORCE lives in the middle of London and hasn't travelled far.85.158.137.196 (talk) 11:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Croydon isn't a suburban town outside London, it's a London Borough. Not that it matters now, because someone's removed the reference anyway.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinginblack (talk • contribs) 11:28, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a borough, equivalent to a U.S. suburb 90.249.136.231 (talk) 16:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Croydon a suburb of London?

message: Seriously? Do you even know what 'Art Rock' is?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.19.150 (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Rock? 

message: could the people who worked on the discography help restore their edits? thanks. Auto movil 00:46, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  re: major edit 

message: I haven't got a copy to hand so I can't check, but I'm pretty sure the Stooges cover on the first album was 1969 (from The Stooges), not 1970 (from Fun House). They did play 1970 on stage but as far as I know never put it on an album. --BTLizard 11:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1969 / 1970 

message: I changed "New Wave" to "psychedelic" as The Damned came before New Wave and it would take more explanation to justify calling them that in the first line then seems necessary since the band's evolution is already explained later on and also since it's the term google uses to describe them. I'm not saying Google is the end all be all, I'm just saying it's a pretty good reason to think they are.   [04:17, 19 August 2005 Pimpalicious]
:Err Damned Damned Damned is closer to Iggy & The Stooges than Psychedelic. Music For Pleasure, nah that's not psychedelic either. Machine Gun Etiquette is Punk Rock or just Rock 'N' Roll. They dabbled with a little psychedelia on Strawberries and released a whole album of 60's type psychedelia as Naz Nomad & The Nightmares. The Damned are tricky to pigeon hole because of their own progression but I wouldn't label them as psychedelic.   [07:14, 7 November 2005 144.137.0.79]
It's ridiculous to deny the band's psychedelic sound.  Frankly, The Damned has a fanbase of people that grew up in the 1980's; this means our parents listened to psychedelic rock.  Given that all of us kids are too cool to like stuff our parents listened to, we refuse to admit the true nature of The Damned.  The band's punk rock roots are undeniable; then again, that is completely based on Brian James' control freak writing.  In many ways, the modern version of The Damned didn't appear until after James got the sack.  And, that leads us back to the issue at hand:  Sensible and Vanian are heavily influenced by psychedelic rock and it shows.
I see that Machine Gun Etiquette was mentioned to deny The Damned as a psychedelic rock band.  Interesting.  Would you care to explain the "jam session" in the middle of Anti-Pope?  Or would you be more comfortable explaining the lengthy cover of "White Rabbit" that was recorded during the Machine Gun Etiquette sessions?... I see you also conveniently ignored The Black Album.  
From where I'm sitting, denying the clear sound of psychedelic rock in The Damned is rooted most in the fear of admitting we are listening to the same music as our parents.  We are rebels one and all... at least we thought we were.  Get over it; after being freed of James, The Damned is a psychedic rock band before goth, punk, or anything else.  (Don't worry, I won't tell your parents.) 72.205.250.123 (talk) 04:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "New Wave" 

message: Vanian's deadpan intro ("Is she really going out with him?") was later borrowed by Joe Jackson for the title of arguably his best-known song.
Surely source of both usages of the line is "The Leader Of The Pack" introduction by The Shangri Las   [17:20, 2 November 2005 213.48.31.48]
:Agreed; I've added words to that effect.   Wasted Time R 17:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is she really going out with him? 

message: I might be a bit out of the loop here, but why is Stu West playing bass on the new single? I thought Patricia Morrison was bass player? The offical site doesn't say any different...
Tom Prankerd 16:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Little Miss Disaster credits... 

message: The Damned appear to have had a tumultuous history in the 1990s, with competing claims of control of the name, albums released then disowned, fast-changing lineups, and the like.  I have no idea what's what, not knowing the band, but some material is in an old version of this article, more is at the AMG history,
and so on.  Someone who has a handle on all this should expand the Recent Years section accordingly.   Wasted Time R 17:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1990s history 

message: are the same person...!!!
<loudepryck@hotmail.com>: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:06:34 +0200 
De: "Vanholme" <vanholme@easynet.be>  Afficher la fiche contact  
À: "KOENIG Stephan" <stephankoenig007@yahoo.fr>, rusi@skynet.be, "lou depryck" <loudepryck@hotmail.com> 
Objet: Re: Daydream: 12/1968 ou 03/1969? 
    
J'ai une très mauvaise mémoire.
les questions concernant Wallace &Fred; tu peux tjrs essayer via son 
frère Rusi
les questions pour Lou via Lou (je crois qu'il était captain 
sensible....c'est un caméléon) "(tr.: I think  he was Captain Sensible...he is a cameleon)!!!
81.246.205.39 13:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captain Sensible and Lou Deprijck... 

message: 213.2.158.19 10:48, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sphinx Svenson 

message: It makes absolutely no sense to describe The Damned as merely a "rock band" in the opening sentence. That description gives no clue to what they are like. I have changed it back a few times to what the original description was, punk and goth. I then reduced it to appear as "punk/goth" (although directing to punk rock and goth rock) because of a complaint that "punk rock/goth rock" was "too messy." If someone has a better way of wording it, go ahead, but do not change it to "rock band", because that's not what they are. Spylab 17:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rock is a larger designation that leaves for less ambiguity when multiple subgenres apply.  In the case of the Damned, they play punk rock (which is a rock subgenre) and gothic rock (a subgenre of alternative rock, which in turn is a rock subgenre). It's a bit pointless and messy to write "punk rock/gothic rock" band when not only do both genres belong under the larger heading of rock music, but the relationship of these specific subgenres to the band are explained later in the same paragraph (not to mention listed in the infobox just to the side). Remember, an article's lead section should be as to-the-point and open to the uninformed reader as possible. With that in mind, it's best to try and sum up any particular band in one genre term in the first sentence, because it's the first sentence of the article and everything else will be explained in due course. With the Sex Pistols it just says "punk" because it's simple, to-the-point, and they belong to that one specific rock genre.  With Led Zeppelin, a number of rock subgenres apply, so it just says "rock". The band's listing under hard rock and heavy metal is then explained a few lines later.  WesleyDodds 10:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevertheless, they are a rock band, just like Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Faust, The Cars, The Cure, and Nirvana are. Miles Davis isn't jazz in the same way Al Jolson is, but they're still both jazz. WesleyDodds 01:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: You missed the part where it says "The Cure are a successful English rock band". Like I said before, some bands can be described off the bat with a specific rock subgenre, which a lot of pages do.  That doesn't apply to the Damned, clearly. Like I said before, the point of the lead section is to sum up the article to th casual reader, one who may not even know what rock music is.  Thus we shouldn't throw out a bunch of terms in quick succession without explanation.  Mind you, in this article's lead section the Damned's place in punk and goth is explaned, so the first sentence doesn't need to list those two genres specifically.  I have no problem with the article being precise, but what I'm getting at is it doesn't need to be precise in the frst sentence, because it's precise in the next two or three. It's redundant.  WesleyDodds 02:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it's supposed to do that in the space of one to three paragraphs.  Which it does, so it doesn't need to say goth/punk in the first sentence, since the band's notable role in both genres needs to be explained.  WesleyDodds 07:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not just a rock band

message: In the Don Lett's Documentary Punk-Attitude; Captain Sensible mentions Chrissie Hynde choosing My Cunt's Honorable Discharge as a band name.  Should this be in the article with the other early names?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.207.113 (talk) 
:Only if we wanted an example of Sensible's bawdy wit, I think. Assuming that can be verifiably shown to have been said as well. --Guinnog 05:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Cunt's Honorable Discharge 

message: The Damned WAS NEVER "gothic rock" whoever keeps on puttiing this on here has NO idea what he's talkiing about!
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:They are well known as a gothic rock band. And it is well cited. --JD554 (talk) 09:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well argued. --JD554 (talk) 08:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Please read Wikipedia's policiy on verifiability. It needs to be cited and hearsay isn't verifiable. --JD554 (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WTF!?!? Gothic Rock!?!?

message: Que? --John (talk) 01:55, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jon Moss]] 

message: This is an edit I made to The Damned earlier:http://tinypic.com/r/rqvfd5/9 This is what showed up on my talk page after it was reverted: http://tinypic.com/r/fdslkj/9
Not constructive? Why, because it actually reads like someone with the vaguest grasp of the English language wrote it? "Shift towards gothic rock," and "recordings turn more goth," mean exactly the same thing, it's just that one reads like it was written by someone who graduated high school. If you don't like how I worded it, fine, but my edit was not vandalism in any way, shape or form. And please, somebody do better because the way that heading reads in the article is embarrassing.  142.55.48.18 (talk) 02:42, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: More Anti-Pope than anti-grammar... Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What, is Wikipedia anti-grammar?  

message: Lemmy played a number of gigs with the band, and his page has him listed as "formerly of". Why isnt he listed among former members on this page? 
Ill just go ahead and add him..
Drlegendre (talk) 04:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemme Kilmister